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Genghois
10-30-04, 01:52
Spent a few days in PP, at the end of September. Stayed at California 2 and, as advertised here, the owner Jim is a cool guy who can point a first-timer in the right direction. My only other time in Cambodia was in Siem Reap, a couple of years ago during a crackdown, when there was nothing going.

After a little wandering around town and some dinner, it was off to Martini’s. Just after I got on the back of a moto, the monsoon came down. By the time I arrived at the bar, I was soaked to the bone!

Ended up playing pool with a couple of Vietnamese girls, one sexy as hell and the other cute as a button with a gorgeous pair of tits. Threesomes have never really been my thing, but I figure what the hell. The two of them worked well together and I must admit that there was something very special about watching my dick passed from mouth to mouth. These two girls were pros, and they knew the drill well!

The next day, after some sightseeing, I stopped by the Walkabout to check it out and have a late lunch. Immediately had a neither young nor lovely lady hanging off my shoulder, who wouldn’t take the hint, no matter how effectively I ignored her. After a while, a couple of Cambodian girls walked in, and sat across the bar. One of them had the most beautiful face, and after a while I motioned her over, and the girl at my side finally took the hint. When the beauty arrived, I couldn’t believe how tiny she was. Maybe 4’10” at most, and about 80 pounds, but the face had me captivated. I checked this girls ID, to be sure! (She was 21.) After chatting a bit, I told her I had to go and do a few things (like rest up from the previous night’s exertions!), but would be back in a few hours.

After a nap and some dinner, I got back to the Walkabout and sure enough she was waiting for me. We flirted and talked for a while, and she said she would like to go dancing at Martini’s. Why not? Need I say that the two of us ended up playing pool against the two girls I was with, the night before?! A few drinks and some dancing, and then back to the hotel for a few rounds before sleep, and another in the morning.

I was worn out by this point, and it was time to hop a flight back to Bangkok, for a few more nights before it was time to head home.

Genghois
11-04-04, 03:19
Spent a few days in PP, at the end of September. Stayed at California 2 and, as advertised here, the owner Jim is a cool guy who can point a first-timer in the right direction. My only other time in Cambodia was in Siem Reap, a couple of years ago during a crackdown, when there was nothing going.

After a little wandering around town and some dinner, it was off to Martini’s. Just after I got on the back of a moto, the monsoon came down. By the time I arrived at the bar, I was soaked to the bone!

Ended up playing pool with a couple of Vietnamese girls, one sexy as hell and the other cute as a button with a gorgeous pair of tits. Threesomes have never really been my thing, but I figure what the hell. The two of them worked well together and I must admit that there was something very special about watching my dick passed from mouth to mouth. These two girls were pros, and they knew the drill well!

The next day, after some sightseeing, I stopped by the Walkabout to check it out and have a late lunch. Immediately had a neither young nor lovely lady hanging off my shoulder, who wouldn’t take the hint, no matter how effectively I ignored her. After a while, a couple of Cambodian girls walked in, and sat across the bar. One of them had the most beautiful face, and after a while I motioned her over, and the girl at my side finally took the hint. When the beauty arrived, I couldn’t believe how tiny she was. Maybe 4’10” at most, and about 80 pounds, but the face had me captivated. I checked this girls ID, to be sure! (She was 21.) After chatting a bit, I told her I had to go and do a few things (like rest up from the previous night’s exertions!), but would be back in a few hours.

After a nap and some dinner, I got back to the Walkabout and sure enough she was waiting for me. We flirted and talked for a while, and she said she would like to go dancing at Martini’s. Why not? Need I say that the two of us ended up playing pool against the two girls I was with, the night before?! A few drinks and some dancing, and then back to the hotel for a few rounds before sleep, and another in the morning.

I was worn out by this point, and it was time to hop a flight back to Bangkok, for a few more nights before it was time to head home.

That Asshole
11-14-04, 06:29
cambodia. the trip.
again took the minibus from pattaya. it's about 4 hours to trat town and another hour to the border. on the way we dropped off some backpackers bound for koh chang. there were three of us left. the other two were drunk expats on visa runs. the minibus is operated by 'koh chang tours' and any travel agent can book it in pattaya or their office is in soi post office, near pattaya second road.

signing out of thailand is pretty straightforward. then walk just a few meters over the border to the cambodian immigration booth. the moment you leave thailand is when the circus begins. although it is fun really if you have a sense of humour. just don't panic. expect the unexpected. it's an alternative sort of world.

immediately i was surrounded by kid beggars. some missing legs, other arms. all dirty. chased them away. if you give to one, they will tear you apart. no bull.

then a legion of moto drivers appeared from nowhere, all eager to take me through the bridge. soon made a deal with one for 50 baht - the standard fee - (he pays the 11 baht toll) and he kept chasing the others away from there on. again the worthless yellow sars paper was stapled into the passport but payment this time was optional. i didn't pay.

then moving next door to apply for cambodian visa. handed over the $20 dollars ($1=40 baht) and was told the fee was 1100 baht. i waved some letter from immigration stating that the standard fee was $20 and not 1100 baht. unpleasant silence in the booth. i was the only one in there for visa and the atmosphere was very intimidating. i got quite a bit scared, i don't know why. the air froze inside. still silence. i was determined to pay only the $20 or die.

at last the captain nodded, okay, $20. big relief. why do we have to go through this shit every time?


koh kong town.
the scenery on the way to town is very beautiful. no houses in sight just plain forests, rice fields, the big river. stepping back into nature. like wonderland. was so good to be back again. everything is so random and natural. very much like a nature reserve or national park. dusty roads, very few cars. life moves at snail pace here. and yes, the best thing: lots and lots of smiling faces!

a couple of new hotels have been opened recently and they have now brand new rooms with that amazing handcarved hardwood furniture for $5 a night (200 baht). deal of the century. they take thai baht anywhere in town. there is not much to do really apart from walkind alongside the river, enjoying the fabulous scenery, sitting in a restaurant or wandering around the marketplace. changed some baht into dollars at the market.


at around 6pm took a moto to the chickenfarm for 10 baht. sent the moto away. went walking, mostly in complete darkness. popped a really beautiful khmer girl who spoke minimal english for $4 plus $1 tip in a very ugly room. details in another report. talked with a few more then back to town for 15 baht. there are lots of motos to take back.


next day spent relaxing in town, enjoying the peace and quiet. it is unbelievably quiet there at night, quite unlike pattaya.

by the way, now there is at least one girlie bar in the town itself which is a quite welcome development. however the place was occupied by backpackers when i went there so i just passed on.

the day after that took the speedboat to shihanoukville for 600 baht ($15). they sell tickets at the pier in the morning. don't need to buy them in advance. some locals even buy tickets on the boat. four hours on the water but it feels a very long trip. it is sweaty and crowded inside. there is one intermediate stop on some island to pick up people.

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on the way they showed us a very entertaining film. about little khmer sophie and her papa who screwed a hooker in phnom penh (wo) and got a terrrrrible affliction called adis or something similar so that he got diarrrrhea and got also wiped out most of his family and himself too. oh how terrrrible storrrry. made by some ngo for sure in need for self expression. khmer people don't make crap like this.

the funny thing was that how soon he got surrounded by so called 'do-gooders' urging him to test forrr his terrrrible illness and telling him how miserrrrable he should feel. should he have some sense and refused to test he would have died of diarrhea. now he died of adis (or something like that).

brrrrr. i feel sick. diarrhea is in fact epidemic in cambodia because of their crap water and low nutrition food. no one can make money out of diarrhea but they can out of adis (or smtg). talk about making money from shit. luckily we all arrived safely before getting diarrhea from this kind brainwashing.

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from the pier to shihanoukville town centre 3000 riel (75 cents). they don't take baht here. the driver insisted to go to a guesthouse of his choice but i told him he can go there alone and just got off not far from my usual guesthouse, where there is a sign on the wall stating that "no gambling or prostitution allowed!" i asked the manager once and he said "don't worry about it".


took a moto to victory beach for 1000 riel and got the chef to stop his card game and make some fried rice ($1) at one of the many restaurants.


at 6pm again took a moto to blue mountain for 1000 riels and sent him away. popped a beautiful and funny viet girl in a nice room for $10 plus $1 tip. she was white as snow and a good lay indeed. but still had that viet attitude which i dislike. khmer girls are much warmer. (well okay, darker too.)

tried to find the lecircee bar in town but was told it had closed down. went to fisherman's den instead. their advertisement promises 'entertaining company'. no one even talked to me. the few girls seem to have been attached to the boss and regular expats. watched tv instead. home at 11pm.


next day bus to phnom penh at 12.30 pm. price has gone down from 14000 riels to 12000. four hours. it's not too bad because there is a 20 minute stop around halfway. and luckily nobody was eating durian on the bus this time.

apart from a couple of backpackers there was another obvious sex-tourist on the bus (walks sideways through turnstiles). we got talking and he recommended a couple of places to check out in phnom penh. also we arranged to meet at martini's that night.


in phnom penh checked into the usual (visitor-friendly) guesthouse for $5 a night. it's a small but nice and clean, near new room with fan. picked up the tourist magazines from sharky's and made a list from all the bars advertised there. selected those which seemed to have interesting ads.

had a look at walkabout in the afternoon. dead quiet.
at 6pm most of the bars open. (some bars open at 4 pm others are open 24/7). went to one of the better massage places, near the main market.

by ugly-fat-feminist pressure now the girls must wear their knickers in the bar. that's disappointing. anyway, they are just as friendly but it was nicer when they actually flashed their pussies in your face and you could explore them while sipping beer. had a nice massage session with one girl there. details in another report.


then off to martini's. the sex-tourist guy didn't come. so i got my regular driver to do some sightseeing trip around town. we had a look of the streetwalkers on various streets in downtown plus a few more bars. martini's is such a waste of time now. can't even dance in the big smoke so went home instead, resolving never to return again.


the following days were spent relaxing at the hotel or sometimes at walkabout bar and the evenings in one or more of the girlie bars. most of the girls speak minimal or no english but we usually had fun anyway, lots of laughs nevertheless. i don't like to mention names of bars here because of perverts and feminazis are just looking out for clues to make trouble. so get the tourist guides and do as i did. it's more fun that way.

usually did doubles because it is so cheap. two girls is only $20 plus a dollar or two to tip. it is nice when you are rooting one and the other is feeding her pussy on your face or when one is sucking the helmet and the other the balls and then you blow it all in their faces. sperm is dripping from their cheeks and they are licking the corners of their mouths, begging: "it's yummy. can we have more please?"

they are good at it and not shy at all. the good thing is that they are uneducated and poor. this is the only way they can make some reasonable cash. you can't get this sort of treatment in thailand any more. only wanted to do 5 of them in this town and ended up with over 10.

so time flew and it was time to move on because we were running out of cash. there are still no atms. plus it is also not good to get too much of the good thing. i had a party every night.

passed on the tourist buses simply because didn't want to sit next to some fat feminazi from holland all the way so took the gst bus to siem reap from the central market for $4. it broke down around halfway but they sent a replacement real soon so we got there in about 5 and a half hours. it was even quite exciting as we got stranded in that tiny willage in the middle of nowhere and went to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in the ricefields. the road is excellent all the way otherwise.

about siem reap see the other report.

from there to the border at poipet took another bus for $4 again. it was full of backpackers. if there are worse roads in the world i haven't seen those yet. wow! this must be the worst. not even a road just a track in the middle of the fields really. and that dust!

enjoyed the beautiful scenery for only two hours after then it was painful. the trip takes approx. 5 hours but feels much longer. had a couple of rest stops. beggars waiting. one little girl asked for 5 baht so that she could go to school. i am really against of educating women. it just makes them arrogant and proud. so i informed her that it is better if she doesn't go to school at all because they only teach her bs there. she promised. i gave her one baht.

someone may disagree at this point but i feel that we must be systematic in our approach here. if you send women to school then you are closing the brothels in effect. there is no need for woman doctors, lawyers or teachers. man can do those jobs very well. but we need lots of humble, beautiful, warm hearted females. western women are now losing these qualities very quickly.

at poipet border crossing hordes of beggars again. young, old, little, big. one guy in front of me took out a coin to give to a kid. in one instant a dozen of them surrounded him pulling his clothes. he must have panicked and started screaming "f. off!, f.off!" put away his coin again. wow, they are a scary lot them beggars there.

the contrast is the most remarkable at the border. you step through from near anarchy into a wonderfully organized world at aranya pratet on the thai side. in a way it was a relief. although i will miss the khmer smiles. from aranya pratet took a bus on to khorat to have a look at the soapies there and most importantly to take a rest from rooting meat. but that's in another report.

bbig12
11-14-04, 10:39
I'm going to SR and PP the last week of Nov. Will anyone be there?

Shamas
11-15-04, 00:32
I'll PM you with my travel plans with in 24 hours

Shamas

Ljohnson
11-16-04, 03:15
Alexander,

Excellent narrative relating your overland excusion from Thailand to Cambodia and back. I am envious and I hope to make such a trip one of these days.

Thanks for your effort.

Ljohnson

Clandestine782
11-19-04, 17:59
I am here in Thailand, and hear some bad things about foreigners trying to find a wife.

It is not clear if some of the other expatriates that I talked to were giving me inaccurate information as a way of telling me to "stay out of their sandbox," but what I hear is that the girls here: 1. Want a huge dowry; 2. Treat a man as a source of financial support for her family for the rest of their lives. With problems like this, is it easier to go Cambodia? I've heard that there is a significant sex imbalance there (in favor of females), which might make it a lot easier to get a wife. What have you guys heard about that?

Shamas
11-19-04, 23:17
I understand the going rate for a Thai wife is $5K US, paid to her family. Sometimes the family returns the money to the groom as a wedding present, other times it's kept.

Girls in Asia are treated much differently than in North America and Europe.

Most guys who marry asian women end up getting divorced. The girls have a misconception that all we are is a big Mall and the money never runs out. The culture shock, lack of friends and different life styles are hard to adjust to. Some have a great relationship, most don't.

That's my 2 cents worth

Shamas

Ljohnson
11-20-04, 01:15
Clandestine782 -

With all due respect, I would caution you (strongly) against going to Thailand and/or Cambodia to find a wife. If by "a wife" you mean a woman with whom you want to share your life, to love and trust and possibly raise a family. The women I have "known" in both countries have been loads of fun, great in bed and beautiful. But...a wife? That is something else and these girls are not wired for that. Read the book, Private Dancer. It is available for free online.

Not to preach to you or insult you, but it strikes me as naive to think that you could be happily married to any one of these little beauties. They are creatures of a very different sort and seeking to marry one of them can lead to emotional and financial ruin.

Don't do it.

Ljohnson

Clandestine782
11-20-04, 13:01
No offense taken. I'm going to read the book "Private Dancer."

I wasn't thinking about meeting a bargirl. And I didn't necessarily mean someone to share my life with. Just a regular partner.

John05
11-21-04, 18:07
That is not true about the money for the Thai wife. It is BS only! When you give $5,000 as a dowry, the girl better be hot AND from an upper class family. Modern and respectable Thai families NEVER keep the money but instead return it to the Thai wife. The tradition dates back a long time. However, if you are marrying a bar girl and her family asks for that much money and does not return it to her there is a really big problem with that situation. It is a scam big time so never agree to this. Anyway, there is no way that you should have to pay that much money in the first place if you wanted to marry a bar girl. That is seriously messed up!

I know of a few Cambodian ladies from respectable families that married an American and there were never any rip offs or problems. Again, non P4P type of girls and the expats knew a Cambodian friend in the USA who would ask his realtives about intelligent single girls whom they had known for several years.

Quite a different story than the basic expat who bangs a young hooker in PP and then wants to marry her without ever knowng anything about her. Please be careful about that situation.

Old Thai Hand
11-27-04, 23:30
"There is no fucking away I would ever come back to this shithole with their monkey looking natives and risk dying."

Guy #2

"monkey looking natives" ?????

The above statements qualifies you for banishment from WSG.

One wonders if your gran'-pappy wore a hood and lynched "nigras".

You're disgusting!

Ljohnson
11-29-04, 00:56
Guy #2 -

You say that you do research re AIDS? Why did you not do the research before you went to Cambodia? You sound like a real idiot (you may not be but you sound like one) when you go to all the trouble of going to Cambodia and then you decide they look like "monkeys" and apparently the AIDS situation is unacceptable.

What you wrote in your last post is not just offensive. (We will not always agree on every point.) It goes beyond offensive; it is not acceptable and has no place here.

I would not be surprised if the doctor or lab tech took one look at you and decided to issue a positive test result (in collusion with the girl/patient) just so you would leave the girl alone and get the hell out of Cambodia and not come back.

I had a wonderful time in Phnom Penh. PLEASE do not return there as I would not want any of the delightful people I encountered to have to tolerate you and your atrocious attitude.

Please either refrain from such language or remove yourself from this board. Your sentiments are not wanted.

Traveler Tom
11-29-04, 10:20
Ljohnson

Surprised you wasted your time commenting on Guys 2's posting.

There are several of his type on the Board who crop up now and again.

I think that the word that is required is simply 'Ignorant' in all its senses and comments do not merit any reply.

TT

TravelMen
12-12-04, 14:24
Hi Guys

I am in PP in Jan and am looking at hotels.

I am thinking maybe
Intercont (seems a bit out of the way)
La Royal
Cambodiana

Are these girl friendly?
Not sure if the Royal would be.
Cambodiana is tempting but I am not sure about the quality of the place.

Any suggestions?

What time to the bars and clubs close there now?

Sukatoro
12-14-04, 12:14
I'm currently sitting here in Phnom Penh at my hotel for the first time, just flew in today and am totally clueless where I should be heading tonight to find some pretty vietnamese or chinese girls for ST, can anyone point me in the right direction? This seems a much different scene than I'm used to, Thailand and Japan are my usual stomping grounds!

Waterboy70
12-15-04, 07:15
Sukatoro,

Head to Sharky's or Martini Bars - just hope on any moto and tell them the name in English, trip should costs no more than Riel 4,000 - if it is a reliable moto driver, get him to wait for you.

Happy hunting

Ljohnson
12-15-04, 18:25
Sukatoro -

Call Yorn at 855 12 986 310. He was my personal moto driver this past April when I was there. I was pleased with his service.

I invited him to go into the bars and sit with me as I was more comfortable that way, but he will wait outside if you prefer. He knows the location of various "lady houses" also. He is a good tourist guide if you want to see see the sites.

I gave him $15 for all day service. Gave him $20 my last day there as I was very pleased.

Good luck.

Member #2311
12-21-04, 03:20
Hi evryone,

I am new to this forum which I find very interesting. There is a great deal of information on the bars and clubs to go to. But what about the KTV, does anyone have any info on this with the most important being cost of ladies in these establishments?

Mega
12-29-04, 09:30
Hi Member #2311,

They were charged $10/hr for ktv room(you have to sing the song), $2 a drink, $6 for a lady seat with you and$ 50 buck to bring lady to hotel. Actually,there are many pritty girls in each clubs ,the ladies were Vietnamess, Chiness and some English.

And you didn't mention that the girl get US20 Mamasan US20 and US10 to you. :(

TravelMen
12-29-04, 13:19
Hi Guys

Has any one been to a night club called "Nexus".

Would this be the best place for picking up non-pros?
Any other good bars/clubs for non pro action?

I assume Martins is still the best for pro's?
What time does this place start to empty out?

I am there from Jan 19 if any one wants a beer.

Caino
01-02-05, 14:08
I'm currently sitting here in Phnom Penh at my hotel for the first time, just flew in today and am totally clueless where I should be heading tonight to find some pretty vietnamese or chinese girls for ST, can anyone point me in the right direction? This seems a much different scene than I'm used to, Thailand and Japan are my usual stomping grounds!Hi Sukatoro,

I stayed in PP last november and had a great time at walkabout hotel, there is a bar full of action all day and night.

Adjarn
01-05-05, 13:26
Nexus is full of pros. Looking for "non pros"? You need to define it because a nice Khemer girl isn't going to go out and fuck some foreigner just for fun and w/o cash. Without her virginity she will have no chance to marry into a decent family. P4P is everywhere.

Adjarn

TravelMen
01-05-05, 15:46
Hi Adjarn

I didn't know Nexus had pro's. I thought it was a locals upmarket disco.

So there are no women there out to get laid for a few drinks then?

What about any foreign women who are visiting/working there who may be bored. Where if any where would they hang out?

Where would you say the best quality pro's hang out. Could it be Nexus, or is it Martins etc?
What would be the average all night price for a hot one?

Are you around from 19 Jan by any chance?

El Culion
01-05-05, 20:06
TravelMan,

A good place to meet foreign women who visit or work in Phnom Penh is Heart of Darkness (weekends only, if I remember correctly). It's near Walkabout and Sharky's. Any motodriver knows.

TravelMen
01-06-05, 07:02
Thanks E-C

I thought hod was a gay bar with some pro's though?

Do many foreign women go there?

Any more advice on where to find the hot pro's?
I read the KTV places have some.

El Culion
01-06-05, 11:37
TM,

When I was there about 2 years ago Heart was definitely NOT a gay bar. There were lots of foreign women there (backpackers and women who live there) early in the evening and as it got later more and more Khmer/Viet girls came trickling into the place. I suppose because the bars they worked in had closed.

To find pros is very easy. Many girls will accost you in this neighbourhood and as soon as you check into your hotel the bellboy/receptionist will ask you if "you want lady/massage."

Adjarn
01-06-05, 12:26
The thing about PP and Cambodia is that there can be "hot girls" working anywhere, you just need to be at the right place at the right time. I was planning to write a long detailed report earlier, but I still haven't had any time recently. Out of all of the places I know to find girls, I might recommend a place called Zanzibar on street 104. They are all P4P, but the last time I was there I saw a lot of very beautiful Khmer girls who could speak English. They were all already with foreign guys. This was in the afternoon before the rest of the girls showed up for work. It's a small place that also serves food. Rates are something like $5-10 for the bar, and then maybe $20 and up for the girl. Basically, this is similar to the bars in Thailand.

Longer report to come at a later date,

Adjarn

TravelMen
01-07-05, 10:30
Thanks

I shall try HOD.

Adjarn, if you get a chance for a report summary that would be great, as I leave in a week.

I shall try Zanzibar also.

So waht is the going rate for a top girl for all night. I have read from $20 up to $100?

Any one been to Nexus? I heard a lot of the trendy locals and ex-pats go there?

Capt Kangaroo
01-10-05, 12:16
I've found that imaginary paradise hidden between Vietnam & Thailand.

Need I say anymore? Let's hope it doesn't disappear to fast. Ankor is magnificent.

Walkabout.

Regards,

Roo.

Girlfinder
01-29-05, 00:50
Is there any chance Guy#2 is right that a non-pro is positive (on AiDs test).

Augie
03-01-05, 14:58
alright glad to see that this board is back up and running again. just in time too as se-asiaboard is down now! (fucking ngo's. hey listen if you're an ngo reading this please drink rat poison. thank you.)

i've read the last 6 months of posts. nobody has posted shit during the entire month of feb but i think (hope) that's only because the board was down and we can get this thing going again.

i'm in sr right now. nice place but can't be recommended for mongers. i had traveled here overland from thailand and thought i'd stay a week, which i am now realising was 3-4 days too many. still, if anyone finds himself there i know of three st places, all $10. pm me.

will be in pp tomorrow for the first time. any mongers want to talk mongering over beers the beer is on my dime. pm me.

two comments on this thread's posts of the last 6 months. one on hiv and another on marriage.

hiv: guys, you're playing russian roulette over here if you're entering without your trojan/durex. assume all p4p here (and that's all there is here) is hiv+, and take it from there. yeah they break from time to time, especially w/the dry (no foreplay) brothel babes (add ky to your coat, even if it's already lubricated) but you're not going to contract it in those few seconds. especially if the skin on your helmet/shaft is all intact, e.g. no teeth marks from bad bjs, no shaft skin peeling off from last night's drunken 45min fuck session in a dry vagina. contracting hiv from an hiv+ girl during normal, lubricated vaginal intercourse is a lot harder to do than many ngo's will have you believe. with a rubber it's not even an issue.

marriage: imo it's one of the unwisest decisions a man can make. but hey if you're a monogamous type of guy (then why would you be reading this?) and want to settle... then do not marry an asian girl. marry a filipina.

what's that you say? filipinas are asian? bullshit. i was there the last 15 months. from laoag to davao and everywhere in between. imo if you really think you can be happy having sex with the same woman day after day, then get yourself a filipina, set the limit on how much cash she/her family are going to get from you every 1st and 15th of the month (those are paydays in philippines, their whole fucking existence revolves around those days) and do not, under any circumstances, give more allowance than that. never! funerals, auntie's dentist, junior's tuition. nothing!

ok i've disgressed enough. want to hear more re philippines pm me.

enjoy,

augie

JD de Moca
03-02-05, 08:19
I just wanted to respond to your post.

Great advice. I still haven't traveled much but hope to get to the Phillipines soon.

Happy Hunting,

JD

Sleez Ho
03-10-05, 05:59
Hey guys,

I'll be making my first SE trip in 6 weeks. Ticket's already bought; flyin' into BKK.
My question is about getting to Phnom Penh quickly and cheaply. Travelocity wants like $300 for a round trip ticket. I want flexibility in coming and going and a better price. But I don't want to give up a whole day or two in travel. What are my options? I appreciate it.

Asiaphile
03-11-05, 02:30
[QUOTE=Augie]Alright glad to see that this board is back up and running again. Just in time too as se-asiaboard is down now! (Fucking NGO's. Hey listen if you're an NGO reading this please drink rat poison. Thank you.)

SE-ASIABOARD is down and out... what really happened to it???
Why doesn't the moderator "Xantor" let us know the problem?
He seemed to think because he was hosting out of his liberal Holland
he was much less likely to be attacked and shut down - unlike if he was
in fascist USA, China, Saudi Arabia! Of course, his site was not illegal.

The Lizard
03-11-05, 08:16
[QUOTE=Asiaphile SE-ASIABOARD is down and out... what really happened to it???
Why doesn't the moderator "Xantor" let us know the problem?
He seemed to think because he was hosting out of his liberal Holland
he was much less likely to be attacked and shut down - unlike if he was
in fascist USA, China, Saudi Arabia! Of course, his site was not illegal.[/QUOTE]I guess they just moved to a secret corner of the WEB - I could understand that (permanentely these senseless attacks from stupid NGO's !!!!) - a fair discussion was hardly possible anymore.

Lee66
03-11-05, 11:24
Come to Bangkok, go thru customs, then go to Bangkok Airways ticket office. It is located upstairs on departure floor. You can get round trip for about 8000 bht. Or go to town find travel agent will be a little bit cheaper.

Asiaphile
03-12-05, 03:59
It looks like se-asiaboard is back up after two weeks of being down.
Apparently, it was a network technical problem that was unrelated to our growing paranoia in these circles. Now if we could just have the technical problems beseting wsgforum finally resolved.

Doom Day
03-22-05, 10:09
Let me guide you all here.

I've been there for 3 days last week. I would recommend Mittapheap Hotel. (us 25 a day). Clean and comfortable. If you more classy hotel, I would recommend Sunway hotel. (us 80 a day).

For mongering go to CASA and HOLIDAY. Very nice Viet gal cost us 50 for whole day.

Dinghy
03-23-05, 03:43
You DO like to spend money don't you? IF I wanted to live like a westerner, i would just stay home. $50 ROFLMAO (sure, less than home...sheesh - for 2000B, I can have almost ANY go-go girl in Pattaya)

The Sun Prince
03-24-05, 10:58
Actually, Cambodia has two diverse markets.

The one that Doom day implies, and a more affordable one at places like Martinis and Sharkeys. Problem is that the latter are starting to attract some older girls way past their prime.

I will be there in a few days so an update may clarify the situation.

BostonBread
03-25-05, 12:06
Read about Sihanoukville in the south of Cambodia and wondered what is the easiest way to get there? Also, anyone been there since Anal Kiss' last post on this in 2002?

Have a great day.

Horstar
03-26-05, 00:18
Would appreciate any recommendation for good and guest-friendly hotel in PP.

Has anybody recent experience with "Famingo"?

Thank's in advance.

Khun Larry
03-26-05, 05:33
Hey guys,

I'll be making my first SE trip in 6 weeks. Ticket's already bought; flyin' into BKK.
My question is about getting to Phnom Penh quickly and cheaply. Travelocity wants like $300 for a round trip ticket. I want flexibility in coming and going and a better price. But I don't want to give up a whole day or two in travel. What are my options? I appreciate it.You are not planning to stay in BKK for a day or two? If you are just go to any travel agent. They are on every corner.

Tazzy Devil
03-27-05, 05:43
Read about Sihanoukville in the south of Cambodia and wondered what is the easiest way to get there? Also, anyone been there since Anal Kiss' last post on this in 2002?

Have a great day.If you are leaving from Phnom Penh Ho Wah Genting bus company leaves from the bus station on Charles de Gaulle, next to Central Market & will take you to St.108 in Sihanoukville

GST bus company is just south west of the Central Market on the corner of 142 St & Charles de Gaulle Blvd & will drop you off at Ekareach St in Sihanoukville. Any Moto driver in Phnom Penh would know where to go if you just tell them Bus station to Sihanoukville should cost about $3 for bus ticket & take about 4 hours. Take a drink & something to snack on, buses do stop half way at a noodle shop but not much to eat unless you like the local food.

Once you arrive in Sihanoukville I recomend a trip to The Fishermans Den situated above the Kim Chantra guest house just down from the Caltex Starmart. Brian or Phil will give you some good info on the town. They have freelance girls & expect to pay $20 LT.

Blue mountain & the Chicken farm are also worth a visit for ST girls.

Plenty of good clean places to stay in town, I stay at the Small Hotel $10-15 aircon, hot water & TV, King Gold, The Oasis & G'Day Mate have rooms about $10 all are girl friendly & centraly located

Pattayaprince
03-30-05, 11:05
Let me guide you all here.
For mongering go to CASA and HOLIDAY. Very nice Viet gal cost us 50 for whole day.I bet she was nice seeing your paying her US 50 per day when you can get any viet for US 20.

Lee66
03-31-05, 05:19
I've been in PP a week now, lots of new girls in Sharky, Walkabout and Martini. There is no one best place girls make there rounds just like the men. Quantity and quality go up and down as the night goes on. Now the problem is the girls are trying to get $15 or $20 for st. Toul Cork (sp) is ok still $5 st. more girls available in late afternoon and nite, but some go to sharky etc. Kll is still closed, plenty of massage places in various hotels. St usually $20. Hun sen park has girls now, 21: 00 or so. street 63 is still going, but some guys tell me they weren't allowed in. All in all, pp is still one of the best values in the punting world PS. Don't worry about the anti-sex ngo's, they are no problem, but are getting media coverage. Usual scare tactics.

Batman
04-02-05, 20:18
Here is whats new in PP.
Sony Guest house. plenty of $5 ST pussy, open after 5pm.
Sophies, IMHO best place in town for short time if you dont believe me go sit at the bar and see what happens. $10 ST opens at 7ish
I prefer Walkabout to Sharkey for take out but thats me.
The NEW martinis is just to out of the way from where I normally stay and the girls are pushy.
Whoever asked about the port Sville just go out to the chiken farms (down by the port) the rest is played out now.

The Sun Prince
04-04-05, 08:14
Batman,

Just got back after a week in PP. You are spot on with your info! I personally had a terrific time at Martinis and met many very willing ladies. There is a trend toward $15 ST. Walkabout has a mixed crowd, some quite nice and others hard core. I guess you need to use your discretion. Sharkeys quite good too, although thins out at 12pm. Heart of Darkness worth visiting after 12pm. Zanzibar is a classy hostess bar, although need to watch out for some attitude occasionally.

I agree PP still a favourable destination, especially if Viets are part of your diet. I also saw HCMC for two nights. The latter is quite expensive, and a hassle with respect to the girls.

Nuphit
04-04-05, 22:42
[QUOTE=Batman]Here is whats new in PP.

Sony Guest house. plenty of $5 ST pussy, open after 5pm.

Sophies, IMHO best place in town for short time if you dont believe me go sit at the bar and see what happens. $10 ST opens at 7ish

I can not find on the internet where the exact location is of sophies and sony guest house. Can you help me.

Kens14
04-05-05, 17:39
I'm planning my first trip to Cambodia in July/August this year. I've been searching this forum but haven't been able to find the detail of information found on the Thailand Board. So here are a few initial questions:

1) All recommendations re. girl friendly hotels would be appreciated in PP & SR (thinking of staying in Walkabout in PP).

2) Prices and places for p4p.

3) Good hunting grounds (I picked up that Martini's, HoD, Sharky's, Walkabout - anywhere else ?)

Any other information / advice would be really appreciated.

Kens14

Frankfurter
04-07-05, 04:27
Nuphit:

I have to agree:

Sophie is great, both in attitude of the whole place, the price and the ease of getting what we want.

Sometimes I just stayed at the bar, the girls asked, why I don't want to go to one of the rooms with them. I didn't. It was just so much fun to have a bunch of girls fighting over who gets the full load after the--usually-- great BBBJCIM. Fun!

Let see whether I remember this correctly:

It is located South of Central Market on 130St. and 19th, south of Noredom Blvd., round-corner building, white, NE corner of the intersection, 2nd. fl.

Or even better: Ask any mototaxi rider.

I will be back in May. Maybe somebody wants to meet?

Frankfurter
04-07-05, 04:30
Nuphit:

Check the photo pages. I'll try to post a photo of Sophie Club tonight, although I'm not the computer genius.

hercules
04-08-05, 02:53
Kens14,

Check out this board-http://www.se-asiaboard.com/board/viewforum.php

There are many long term posters, and previous posts to answer all of your questions.

Personally it is a matter of taste where you stay. All the places popular with mongers tend to be in the $15 to $25 range. I like to stay close to the river, but that is is just my personal preference.

My understanding is that many girls are starting to ask for 15 for ST. But there are still many places brothels throughout the city.

In Sihanoukville, I understand the Blue Mounatain and Rosies are closed, but Punsahmi, or the Chicken Village as it is usually called, is still flourishing for now. It is something that has to be experienced to be believed!

Member #3410
04-08-05, 09:27
Hey team,

Are the prices you are quoting US dollars?

Cheers KHM

Asiaphile
04-10-05, 06:15
Yes, these are USD quotes. I prefer to pay for ALL small transactions not with one dollar or five dollar bills as is the barang (foreigner) custom in Cambodia but in local Riel. For example, a short hop by a motodup is around R1000 for a couple block hop and accordingly for further. R3500-4000 = USD$1.

It's stupid to pay for ALL small items and services constantly with $1 bills in Cambodia (regardless if you're Donald Trump or some Arab prince) when the REAL price in RIEL is 50-80% LESS. Usually, I'm not talking about sex here, but not always.

You can get ST at various locations in Phnom Penh and elsewhere in country for around R15000, although many newbie tourists, even experienced barangs will just fork over $5 (or higher!) without any question. I have given my motodup driver R10000-15000 on many occasions so he could get laid himself while at a venue he had driven out to. Anyone who lays out $15 for ST is simply not negotiating and continuing to ruin the declining scene. LT at $15-$20 is very doable, although most of my action is normally just ST whether on premisis or at back at my place. That's my 500 reils worth (12 cents).

Tropi
04-16-05, 19:16
Alexander,

"One little girl asked for 5 baht so that she could go to school. I am really against of educating women. It just makes them arrogant and proud. So I informed her that it is better if she doesn't go to school at all because they only teach her BS there. She promised. I gave her one baht."

You must be very proud of yourself

Romeo Blue
04-16-05, 20:14
I will be in Cambodia next Week.

Where are the best Places now to pic up Girls?

since K11 is not a good place anymore.

I look for Places for ST. I heard somthing about a Bridge.
whats happen there. is it still 5$ or is it more expencive noe?
any good ideas are welcome.

Member #3410
04-26-05, 10:25
Hi guys,

Thanks for the great info. Please tell me something: Young girls ( legal), good place to get these and price. I think I would really like long time. I have not been to Cambodia before and have no real idea of the cheap hotels and so on. All help recieved with thanks.

I will be posting while there and also taking photos. I keep reading about this river place - any ideas.

Last request: Taxi, bus etc from airport. Costs please.

Kiwi Hitman

Member #3410
04-28-05, 08:42
Hi all,

have been reading reports of moto and taxi and hotels working with NGO and reporting about tourists. I have seen that one driver is on here sometimes and I have heard some good reports about him - Driver SovanMee or any other ones you have used. I have seached varous threads and have seen other names mentioned but some facts would be great

Thanks in advance.

Can anyone please PM me if you have used him or them - I am sorry Driver SovanMee, but I need to check out your reputation because of the fact that I suspect that Cambodian ladies look younger and I do not want the law on my door.

Cheers,

Kiwi Hitman

Member #3410
04-28-05, 10:27
A question I hope does not see me banned, burnt, flamed etc.

But do you get beggers working a ladies of pleasure. Are they cheaper etc.

Wee Zel
04-29-05, 04:51
$5 short time for a beautiful, clean 20 year old!

How much cheaper do you want to go?

Is the Kiwi dollar that low these days?

Robux
04-29-05, 05:26
Kiwi,

Forget the driver, it's the hotel you stay in that's most important, and will be cheaper over all than SovanMee, who I'm sure is a nice fellow but his rates are high.

I stayed at the California 2 last year. There are always a few good moto drivers that the manager Jim (from California) knows and they hang out in front. No worries, and good huevos rancheros for breakfast, too. Can't recommend this place highly enough.

http://www.cafecaliforniaphnompenh.com/

No, I don't get a kick back. If you can, get a river-front room. A bit noisier in the morning, but the view is tremendous. Staying at a place on the river, you'll have easy access to all the lovelies that stroll the waterfront looking for mongers.

Robux

Ljohnson
04-30-05, 02:20
When I was in PP a year ago I met moto driver Neak Yorn at the airport and he was my driver and guide for three days. He even took me to his house and I met his wife and family; they cooked dinner for me. Thus, I'm pretty sure he is not a spy for any NGO or anyone else. I keep in touch with him via email and I will use his services again when I return. He provided me with what I requested and kept me safe from any kind of harm.

Ljohnson


Hi all,

have been reading reports of moto and taxi and hotels working with NGO and reporting about tourists. I have seen that one driver is on here sometimes and I have heard some good reports about him - Driver SovanMee or any other ones you have used. I have seached varous threads and have seen other names mentioned but some facts would be great

Thanks in advance.

Can anyone please PM me if you have used him or them - I am sorry Driver SovanMee, but I need to check out your reputation because of the fact that I suspect that Cambodian ladies look younger and I do not want the law on my door.

Cheers,

Kiwi Hitman

Capt Kangaroo
05-01-05, 14:32
Franfurter,

I can understand why you'd want to stay at the bar!

It's pretty hard to slip off a stool!

Especially when the floors are tiled in the rooms. Ooops after a quick wash?

Know what I mean? Nudge nudge, wink wink, say no more!

Be careful over there guys.

Love that place.

Can't have you big ugly bastards skidding over on those lovely girls now can we...

Tazzy Devil
05-02-05, 05:37
I agree with Robux.

California 2 is a good place to stay & is value for money.

Jim will help you with any questions on Phnom Penh, what to do, where to go & more importantly how much you should pay.

I have used the moto driver's out in front of CA2 & have found them to be honest & safe drivers. I prefer to pay the driver about $7-8 for all day & he is at you disposal. Recomend a tour of the city with the moto driver, this will give you an idea of what is about & if you see a place you want to stop at the driver is content to wait for you



Kiwi,

Forget the driver, it's the hotel you stay in that's most important, and will be cheaper over all than SovanMee, who I'm sure is a nice fellow but his rates are high.

I stayed at the California 2 last year. There are always a few good moto drivers that the manager Jim (from California) knows and they hang out in front. No worries, and good huevos rancheros for breakfast, too. Can't recommend this place highly enough.

http://www.cafecaliforniaphnompenh.com/

No, I don't get a kick back. If you can, get a river-front room. A bit noisier in the morning, but the view is tremendous. Staying at a place on the river, you'll have easy access to all the lovelies that stroll the waterfront looking for mongers.

Robux

Member #3410
05-03-05, 09:49
Hey Wee Zel - NZD not too bad - just wondering lol.

Was thinking of 2 beggers and a BG lol

See ya

Kiwi

Asian Rain
05-06-05, 10:08
On site in PNH. The heat is stifling. In weather like this I imagine the old days of the moto drive to k11 to hump away in an oven room. Yeah, it's only $5, but you ended up like a roast turkey! Now that those days are gone, my choice for the afternoon was to enjoy a 2 hour massage in an aircon room.

Visited Martini in the evening and was pleased to see the level of talent well above my previous visit in January this year. The ladies continue to follow thier mercenary trend. Very quick to link up and go back to hotel for boom-boom. I lost a cutie - slim, great smile, tight ass, mini skirt - because I was spending more time at the pool table than pampering her. She wandered off and was undoubtedly snapped up. Cest la vie. Martini still is on my recommended list.

Passed by Walkabout and found only the dregs of Martini. Didn't even ask the driver to slow down.

Capt Kangaroo
05-16-05, 16:33
Where can I score some Bubble & Squeak on my next visit to PP?

Regards,

Roo

Member #3410
05-17-05, 10:58
Hi Roo,

Good one bud, not in our country lol.

Kiwi

CleanShave
05-25-05, 05:24
Sophie’s Club is relatively easy to find – you need to be looking at a red and white sign on a first-floor balcony. The entrance is below, up a flight of stairs, and press the buzzer on the right of the door to be let inside.

It consists of a bar with several bedrooms attached. There are about eight girls inside. On walking through the door we were grabbed by five girls who led us to the bar. Drinks were $2 each and so we ordered beers and sat on the bar stools. Within a matter of seconds, the girls had opened up our trousers and were taking turns at OWO.

They then suggested that we (myself and fellow WSGer Polly Phonic) might like ‘boom boom’ and enthusiastically guided us to the room. After stripping off we were given towels and taken in turn to be washed. We then went back to the rooms and the action started.

The girls were all smallish, attractive but not stunning, and probably in their late teens although some looked a little younger so no chance of a surprise visit by UNICEF and the Ministry of Interior. For part of the time I did lay back on the bed in a state of awe what was happening: I was lying on a bed and one girl was sucking me whilst the other was licking my balls and I was fingering each of them. After that it was condoms on and I fucked each of them.

After that ‘mama’ gave us a bill - $20 each plus the drinks. We gave the girls a tip but if you are going to do this, be careful not to let ‘mama’ see as it’s apparently a sackable offence.

Overall, PP is a fascinating place. The only dangers seemed to be the pollution and the drivers and there are no shortage of places to visit.

Polly Phonic
05-29-05, 07:53
Good to share a beer and a blow job with Cleanshave at Sophies. What can you say about Sophies? You climb the stairs, you ring the bell, you walk in and swig a cool beer while two, three or even four babes fight over who gets to clean their teeth with your dick ... it's as simple as that! God didn't give us enough hands! How do you hold a beer and stroke all that muff at the same time? $20 buys you two of them and a wonderfully seedy little room for as long as it takes you to do whatever you want. As Cleanshave says, drop them a few bucks before you leave the room and they'll love you forever then pay Mama at the bar while you buy the girls a Coke. Classy it ain't but it's got to be better entertainment than a bowl of [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140)-tainted peanuts and a jukebox in the corner!

The Sun Prince
05-30-05, 08:11
I have been to Cambo a few times and can verify the above; superb place with Khmer only girls; take out available for US$30.

Previously I paid a tip to the girls on the couch for a BJ only. I don't believe there were any hassles with Mama. Typically you give $1-2$US

Other places to try in a similar vein are Le Cyree and Mikados. Have fun!

T Vega
06-10-05, 06:47
This is my first time posting but I've used the info that you guys provided many times now I would like to give alittle back. If this posts twice sorry the first time I got knock off. Went to Sophies on June 8th about a dozen girls I was by myself and they are all over you alittle too much I pick two girls quickly to get away, the other two girls who made yum yum for one minute said you tip $5 each for yum I was going to give $1 each but didn't like the $10 they asked for so gave 2000 reil each instead. To make a long story short I had two girls $20 and expect two times after one time the one girl who spoke english started getting dressed I ask whats up she says one time you come your done. I told her I know how it work my friends come here and we talk about Sophies on the internet she dosen't back down I say should I talk to mamasan, says go ahead she dosen't care. As I get dressed she askes you want a massage I tell her I'm all done with her tell mamasan everything if mama says pay $20 I would I didn't really care the extra ten dollars wasn't the point, it was being lied to and treated like a sucker. I would just report back to you guys what went down. Also when I told her I learned about Sophies on the internet how much everything is and men say it is a good place to go. I believe that held alot of weight, she said ok one boom boom one beer $12. She was pissed at that girl and didn't want to hear her said sorry to me and asked me to come back again.

LeCyree is like Sophies except they don't whip you out as soon as you walk in the door. beer $2 room $2 fee has fan and aircon and girl $10, hope this helps.

Run Mann
06-11-05, 13:37
Could this be an indictment of just the girl you had and not Sophies as a whole? I will be in PP next month and will give Sophies a try, btw, where is LeCyree?


This is my first time posting but I've used the info that you guys provided many times now I would like to give alittle back. If this posts twice sorry the first time I got knock off. Went to Sophies on June 8th about a dozen girls I was by myself and they are all over you alittle too much I pick two girls quickly to get away, the other two girls who made yum yum for one minute said you tip $5 each for yum I was going to give $1 each but didn't like the $10 they asked for so gave 2000 reil each instead. To make a long story short I had two girls $20 and expect two times after one time the one girl who spoke english started getting dressed I ask whats up she says one time you come your done. I told her I know how it work my friends come here and we talk about Sophies on the internet she dosen't back down I say should I talk to mamasan, says go ahead she dosen't care. As I get dressed she askes you want a massage I tell her I'm all done with her tell mamasan everything if mama says pay $20 I would I didn't really care the extra ten dollars wasn't the point, it was being lied to and treated like a sucker. I would just report back to you guys what went down. Also when I told her I learned about Sophies on the internet how much everything is and men say it is a good place to go. I believe that held alot of weight, she said ok one boom boom one beer $12. She was pissed at that girl and didn't want to hear her said sorry to me and asked me to come back again.

LeCyree is like Sophies except they don't whip you out as soon as you walk in the door. beer $2 room $2 fee has fan and aircon and girl $10, hope this helps.

Romeo Blue
06-11-05, 20:40
hey guys!

i can realy recomand mikado! there are really nice girls in! i like the cashier very much! she has so nice face, but she is not available for anybody! so dont eaven try it! she speak good english and you can talk to her nicely.
tell her greetings if you go there!!

T Vega
06-12-05, 06:52
I don't have LeCyree address I think its near Shanghi bar and Heart of Darkness. There ad is in the Phnom Penh guide books found every where. At Sophies I am sure its the girl and not Sophies, the mamasan said the girl was new and didn't know but I already asked her how long she worked so I know she wasn't new. The bottom line because of this forum we know what the deal is and when explained to the mamasan she did the right thing. It is really a different kind of experience I would recomend a try and tell mamasan you came to Sophies because of you friends on the internet so if any guys have problems in the future the power of the forum will get them the benefit of the dought. Hope you enjoy your trip would also say try California 2 right across the street from the river, good location and Jim is a good guy who will give you the whole run down. I hope this helps I'm off to enjoy my last ten days in Pataya and bangkok.

Tazzy Devil
06-13-05, 10:10
The address for Le Cyrcee Club is #13, street 49, just off street 130.

Not far from The Central Market.

All motodope's will know where it is?


I don't have LeCyree address I think its near Shanghi bar and Heart of Darkness. There ad is in the Phnom Penh guide books found every where. At Sophies I am sure its the girl and not Sophies, the mamasan said the girl was new and didn't know but I already asked her how long she worked so I know she wasn't new. The bottom line because of this forum we know what the deal is and when explained to the mamasan she did the right thing. It is really a different kind of experience I would recomend a try and tell mamasan you came to Sophies because of you friends on the internet so if any guys have problems in the future the power of the forum will get them the benefit of the dought. Hope you enjoy your trip would also say try California 2 right across the street from the river, good location and Jim is a good guy who will give you the whole run down. I hope this helps I'm off to enjoy my last ten days in Pataya and bangkok.

Romeo Blue
06-14-05, 13:49
And at the Corner st130 and 49 there is the mikado.
have Fun there it is not so crowded like Le Cyrcee but has also a lot of nice Girls there.

Mastorr
06-15-05, 12:40
I'm planning my first trip to Cambodia in August this year.

I've been searching this forum to find the detail of information about hotels (good situated, cleans, and GF) also prices ST / LT with girls.

Any information would be appreciated.

Regards,

Mastorr

Run Mann
06-15-05, 15:31
Good hotels with reviews can be found here http://www.asiarooms.com/cambodia/phnom_penh.html

The Cafe California Hotel 2 seem to be the hotel of choice to many mongers on this board, their link is http://www.cafecaliforniaphnompenh.com/index.htm

As for ST/LT prices scroll down and read the pages, that information is available on this thread.


I'm planning my first trip to Cambodia in August this year.

I've been searching this forum to find the detail of information about hotels (good situated, cleans, and GF) also prices ST / LT with girls.

Any information would be appreciated.

Regards,

Mastorr

Tazzy Devil
06-16-05, 04:36
On my last trip to Phnom Penh I stayed at Flamingos Hotel (May 2005)

The hotel is managed by Frank a Canadian who spent a long time in Pattaya so he has a good idea on what most mongers want

The rooms are clean & start at $20 USD a night including breakfast.

Flamingos is situated on St 172 close by is The Walkabout Hotel , Heart of Darkness, Shanghai & Howies.

Flamingos also had a couple of freelance girls there, I paid $20 LT for Kunthea a great GFE.

A moto driver outside of Flamingos took me to a brothel I think it was in St 63 not far from the central market I paid $5.00 for a ST.

http://flamingos.com.kh/


I'm planning my first trip to Cambodia in August this year.

I've been searching this forum to find the detail of information about hotels (good situated, cleans, and GF) also prices ST / LT with girls.

Any information would be appreciated.

Regards,

Mastorr

Mastorr
06-16-05, 14:41
Run Mann,

Only I don't know if all hotels of asiarooms are GF.

I'll check the other link (Café California).

Thanks

Qualo
06-16-05, 15:16
ST $10
LT $20

There are variations e.g. LT maybe for $15 and some girls may ask for that for ST.
There are brothels with girls for $5, in massage parlours expect to pay around $20

Member #3410
06-26-05, 08:22
Hi all,

Anyone know of any older women - in there 40s and 50s working - and costs?

Cheers,

KHM

Frankfurter
06-26-05, 09:12
What's the name of the older hotel again, owned by a French guy, good restaurant, a little bit outside of downtown, on the way to the airport?

And any additional info about available hotel girls there etc. would be welcome. Thanks.

Girlfinder
06-29-05, 08:56
I plan to go here soon. But I see the HIV / AID - rate is very high, 2.8%
http://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?c=cb&v=32
I even read somewhere the rate is 30% betwen sexworkers. Maybe I should go to another place?

Virgins will be hard to find, I guess.

Any experienced comments are welcome.

Run Mann
06-29-05, 10:18
If 2.8 %(actually the number is 2.7 % from the link) is "very High" what are the numbers above it that goes all the way up to 39%. I will be in PP next week and am looking forward to it.



I plan to go here soon. But I see the HIV / AID - rate is very high, 2.8%
http://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?c=cb&v=32
I even read somewhere the rate is 30% betwen sexworkers. Maybe I should go to another place?

Virgins will be hard to find, I guess.

Any experienced comments are welcome.

Qualo
06-29-05, 13:05
I assume all girls could have it or an STD. There's no way of knowing other than taking girls yourself to be tested. I remember reading somewhere that one guy did this with 3 girls- 2 came back positive, I've also heard an estimate of around 40% for working girls, and more recently a figure of 65% but I think these are just estimates / guesses so could be complete bull. I know an expat who has nearly stopped penetration now in case of a breakage and he normally refuses BBBJ's. Of course there is the argument that HIV isn't related to AIDS and that AIDS is basically a group of other diseases (including diseases caused by drugs given to HIV carriers) put under one name. This is a whole other can of worms though and obviously there are a whole heap of other nasties that can be caught with unprotected sex.

Personally I use condoms with spermicidal lubricant, plus ky jelly if she is dry, take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) after a bbbj, and always wash thoroughly afterwards. I've had my hep b shots too, so feel more confident going down on a girl (very occasionally). A couple of girls in PP have tried to have sex without a condom and I'm sure plenty more wouldn't mind if you don't use, but that's a risk I'm not willing to take. If your a long term punter eventually herpes is quite likely to be caught IMO, but I think everything else could most likely be avoided.

Generally I found the girls to be very clean in PP but females often don't show symptoms of STD's, so my rule is to simply use common sense and minimize the risks, and if she's got any unexplainable marks down below say thanks but no thanks (thats only happened once to me).

oh and for Kiwi Hitman, there are often a few older girls hanging about in the freelance bars, probably not 50 but you'll find some around the 40 mark. I got one who said she was 35 but could have been older ($10 plus tip). Finding bona fide virgins will be much harder to find.

Frank Africa
06-30-05, 19:23
i plan to go here soon. but i see the hiv / aid - rate is very high, 2.8%
http://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?c=cb&v=32
i even read somewhere the rate is 30% betwen sexworkers. maybe i should go to another place?

virgins will be hard to find, i guess.

any experienced comments are welcome.
the percentage of hiv/aids amongst sexworkers is relatively high everywhere, even in the us, not just cambodia. use a condom!

and the chances of finding a virgin are very small, especially if you follow the rules of wsg and and interested with sex with an adult female (18+). which is not only the right thing to do, but also the wise thing to do - trust me, you don't want to get caught with an **** girl in cambodia.

Run Mann
07-05-05, 05:12
The Golden Boss Bar by the riverside is really a super operation. Went there with my driver and really had a great time. Excellent selection of beautiful girls. They have a live band playing and a dance floor. The usual fee of $20 and $30 to take the girls out, super relaxing atmosphere.

These Cambodian girls are beautiful, I thought I was able to distinguish Asains, but some of these girls will fool you with their looks. I met one that could have pass for being a white model from LA and another built like a brick (house), she could have pass for being black, I have some pictures of her and may post it later. She is a real beauty, love the way they smell too :).

Naughty
07-06-05, 02:02
Of course there is the argument that HIV isn't related to AIDS and that AIDS is basically a group of other diseases (including diseases caused by drugs given to HIV carriers) put under one name.I thought even Bernard Trink stopped beating this very dead horse years ago!

HIV causes AIDS.

Period.

Frankfurter
07-06-05, 04:29
Some of the readers of this thread might recall that I prefer to stay at the Sakura Hotel on St. 242 when in PP. It's a massage parlor with a (small) Bangkok style fish bowl and some really cute looking girls.

I get a suite (living, bedroom, bath, fridge) for $30 on the top floor, included is laundry service, free unlimited internet and one girl per day/one h., which they send up to the room, after you selected her from the album downstairs.

I had a great time on several occasions with this one girl (see photo section) which works at the massage place. Real GFE.

Since you cannot buy them out, she typically came after work at around 10 minutes to midnight, or so.

One evening she didn't showed up, so I went to bed and fell asleep. Maybe a half hour later she knocks on the door and makes me get dressed. Without much enthusiasm I put my clothes on and she takes me down to go eating.

That was probably one of the nicest memories I had on my recent trip to PP: To sit with her on the back of a moto, riding down deserted Norodom Blvd. near the Independence Monument, holding her tits.

She took me to the "62" restaurant, a favored hangout for the local night scene, open air dining across from the park, the sidewalk is littered with napkins, since it seems it is a sign of style to wipe your mouth and drop the napkin on the floor.

She orders food and a pitcher of Angkor; I am the only Barang, the tables next to us are crowded with Mafia-type guys, punters and stunning girls.

Besides eating the good food and watching the fascinating scene around me I watch the lonely cockroaches on the floor. Interestingly, a vendor brings their fried cousins by once in a while; I am not really into this delicacy. My girl is polite: She won't order this popular snack.

After sitting there, we ride again back through the cool night air to the Sakura for some great fucking.

Very nice night in PP indeed.

Run Mann
07-06-05, 22:41
I am personnaly endorsing the Flamingo Hotel. I'm staying here and for $20.00 to include a small breakfast, this little hotel is a true bargain. Everyone is so friendly and they go out of their way to offer you quality service. They even called my room when I had a this little beauty stayed overnight to make sure everything was ok before she left.

They pick you up for free from the Airport and can help with tours, and have many drivers waiting outside the Hotel to take you wherever you want to go, or if you want to extend your VISA, they will do it for you too.

The link to this hotel is for those who want it is http://flamingos.com.kh/

Capt Kangaroo
07-07-05, 12:07
You did good.

Remember before they wip your dick out, show them the money.

That way they know where they stand.

There are a lot of stupid punters out there just driving up the prices up because they are not savy with what's going down.

Always get a quote first and negoiate. (bargan)

Some will try to argue with their mouths full (usually not), but the balls in your court.

Always get a price first.

It's all fun out there, many of these guys are very experienced punters, just read there excellent chronicles.

Regards,

Roo


This is my first time posting but I've used the info that you guys provided many times now I would like to give alittle back. If this posts twice sorry the first time I got knock off. Went to Sophies on June 8th about a dozen girls I was by myself and they are all over you alittle too much I pick two girls quickly to get away, the other two girls who made yum yum for one minute said you tip $5 each for yum I was going to give $1 each but didn't like the $10 they asked for so gave 2000 reil each instead. To make a long story short I had two girls $20 and expect two times after one time the one girl who spoke english started getting dressed I ask whats up she says one time you come your done. I told her I know how it work my friends come here and we talk about Sophies on the internet she dosen't back down I say should I talk to mamasan, says go ahead she dosen't care. As I get dressed she askes you want a massage I tell her I'm all done with her tell mamasan everything if mama says pay $20 I would I didn't really care the extra ten dollars wasn't the point, it was being lied to and treated like a sucker. I would just report back to you guys what went down. Also when I told her I learned about Sophies on the internet how much everything is and men say it is a good place to go. I believe that held alot of weight, she said ok one boom boom one beer $12. She was pissed at that girl and didn't want to hear her said sorry to me and asked me to come back again.

LeCyree is like Sophies except they don't whip you out as soon as you walk in the door. beer $2 room $2 fee has fan and aircon and girl $10, hope this helps.

Run Mann
07-07-05, 23:41
to kiwi and the other pm i received, (so i don't have to provide the same answer to multiple pms) flamingo does have some free lancers in the lobby area and some on the roof, but they just do nothing for me so i just continue to just pass them by, a couple them are awfully pushy, one even look **** to me, but who knows. i've yet to try the massage service they offer, i think its a service they call from outside.

any of the drivers in front of the flamingo hotel can take you to the right places, and there's even two taxi drivers offfering their services on this same thread, mook and mee sovan. bottom line talk to the guys at the front desk or even some of the guys at the bar downstairs, they're full of knowledge. finally thanks to tazzy devil for turning me on to the flamingos.

Run Mann
07-09-05, 06:33
Martini's Club is another cool joint I enjoyed, met another cutie there and took her back to my room, didn't care for the music but the atmoshere was great. It was great to go there after that incredulous trip to the Killing Fields.

Member #3410
07-09-05, 09:29
Hi Running,

I am heading to Thailand tomorrow and was going to head to PP - is it really that dead - may as well saty in Bangkok.

Fly out in 16hrs time

Cheers Daza

Girlfinder
07-20-05, 01:52
Surprised by the price level.

Girls in normal jobs earn their 40-50 USD a month. Their 30 (!) working days a month means well below 2 USD a day.

Tried a 30-40 minutes normal massage for 5000 rials, that is 1,25 USD - who can beat this? You find these several places, i.e. street 130 towards the river.

Guesthouses from 2 - 15 USD, hotels seems all to be girlfriendly for 15-30 USD a night.

Then to the hard stuff:
ST girls for 10-20 USD, LT 20-30 USD. Girls around 22-30 y.o. at Sharkys (7-10 pm) and Walkabout (2am - 5 am), nice girls 20-22 y.o. at Martini (10-12 pm), and mixed dancing and mongering with 20-25 y.o. at Hearts of Darkness (23 pm - 3 am) . 3-4 chicken houses on Rue 63 close to corner Street 180, only 7 - 10 USD but so dirty here you just want to make it really SST (shorter-short-time), or get a local motoguy to guide you to more hidden places,

This mean massage, 2-3 shoots and hotel for 50 USD a day. Can hardly be better at all, so I just have to stay for another week her ;-)

Cheers my friends

Samu Ray
07-20-05, 05:56
Yeah! there are girls at all the joints just mentioned. These girls are small, 99% of them are not attractive at all. Most of them have flat asses.

At "Sharky's" there are two or three. They seem to be shoosy. Threre were two girls asking me to take them for the night. God! I did not come around the world to screw anyone who walks on two legs!

In my humble opinion, I should be attracted to a girl to screw! Some times I would see girls walking on the st. so attractive that my prick would stand up!

Obviously I don't expect to find girls of that type around here, but I do my best to find something reasonable attractive. If I don't find anything to my liking, I do without! yeah! I visited Vietnam last year, I went back two weeks ago, I could not find a decent looking girl, so I did no screw! I spent Last April and May in Pattaya, there were tons of girls along the Beach Road, I did not see anything interesting.

Someone recomended "Casa Hotel and "Pacific Kiss" here in Phnom Penh, GOD! Those places are very dark, at these places they think tourist would pay what they ask for any girl who walks!

Erik
07-20-05, 21:37
Samu ray, I respectfully believe you don't fit Asia. Not your fault, not everybody have to like the look of Asian girls. Why don't you try another continent ?

Frankfurter
07-21-05, 10:32
Samu Ray

I entirely agree with you that it is preferrable to not engage in sex with a girl you don't find desirable or who makes you hot. But your post is soaked in negative feelings (should I dare say 'hatred'?) that I am afraid you are wasting your precious time travelling though Asia.

I was a couple of weeks back in PP and Siem Reap and had the most memorable experiences with some of the girls, which IMHO never be the result of a negative mind set. Try a different continent (or a modified mind set).

Capt Kangaroo
07-25-05, 05:08
Its all BULLSHIT. (Big Dick Small Dick)

Never had a problem these days:

With too tight.

Too big.

Or sore.

They all take a closed fist and they are shoving it IN with both their hands.

Sorry that's my eyewitness first hand proof.(I'm working on a photo)

Next trip I'm going to bring a 6" dilldoe and get them to test suck it before their yum yum CIM.

That way I'll know who's a deep throat queen and who is not.

Have fun.

Capt Kangaroo
07-26-05, 19:23
Can someone give me some info on the blond with curly hair near the pool table.

I know you savy punters know where I mean even give me a quote.

Regards,

Roo

Capt Kangaroo
07-27-05, 12:29
Damage and performance due to alcohol.

Stay tuned.

Stupidity after a few beers.

Pencil not performing as usual.

Anyone else experience beer problems.

Silly on my part.

Regards,

Roo

Capt Kangaroo
07-29-05, 11:31
Visited Sakura on fellow mungers recommendation excellent deals.

Free Internet, free laundry, free massage.

Well run place with a Hat Yai type Glass Window viewing of the ladies on first floor.

Starting price $20-$30.

Had number #69.

Thanks FF.

Regards,

Roo

Mighty Spearsman
07-29-05, 18:57
Yeah! there are girls at all the joints just mentioned. These girls are small, 99% of them are not attractive at all. Most of them have flat asses...In my humble opinion, I should be attracted to a girl to screw!
While I would agree that it's always better to be attracted to a girl who one wants to screw, I was surprised by your negativity.

99% not attractive? That's not the Cambodia I remember.

And of course, "these girls are small." What were you expecting, Lisa Leslie of the WNBA?

And if your complaint is that "most of them have flat asses" then my friend, Frankfurter is right, you're in the wrong country, in fact you're on the wrong continent. Go fly to Cameroon and enjoy the bubble butts there :)

Asian Rain
08-05-05, 15:16
Just slithered into PP for a quick visit...

Martini's was in good form - especially on Friday and Saturday nights. Good selection of Viet talent plus an incredibly improved pool of Khmer talent. Took home a sweet Khmer package named Srey Moy last night for the works - super hard f@ck and blew my load of white jizz all over her tight dark ass. The ebony-ivory contrast looks superb on video. $20 damage ST.

Srey Moy was kind enough to introduce me around to her other Khmer friends - I was quite surprised to see the change in service-oriented mindset. I was used to the dead fish experence with Khmer girls and was pleasantly pleased to be rewarded with blow jobs, facials and complete video-friendliness. All of my takeaways were in the 18-21yo range.

The only thing I generally dislike about Martini is the politics between the Khmer girls and the Viet girls. Everybody is watching who gets taken out by whom - trying to mix the two does not work well. The Khmer girls also tend to be much more jealous about you going with another Khmer girl... most of the young ones are looking for long-term boyfriends and will latch-on if you do not manage expectations.

Street 63 massage parlors have not been completely quashed, although the talent is the aged product of the now defunct k11. Penny-pinchers will benefit from the $5 boom-boom service which is mostly being used by affluent locals... if you can bear the tiny hot f#ck rooms, there are some cute girls to be taken (at least until the next crackdown). The place I visited was next to #99 Street 63 - don't expect any signs, just a tout sitting in front to guide you in.

I am sure I am not the first to bemoan the decline in the PP scene, but there was a noticeable difference in my most recent visit. With the NGO's coffers filled with tsunami victim donations, they are working hard to eliminate all prostitution now. While people in Aceh, Indonesia couldn't even get a bag of rice out of the billions of tsunami aid, even the local NGO staff here in PP are driving around in new 4WDs and sporting the latest mobile phones... people who made donations have really been taken for suckers.

Get it while you can... PP is well on the path to becoming another BKK, or worse. AR+

Shamas
08-08-05, 06:58
Run Mann recom for Flamingos Hotel is accurate. Very good price, very good staff and great location. Food was very good and Bar Shanghi is right across the street. Across the other street is walkabout, it's 24hr but not even close to Shanghi.

Shamas O'Dognasty
Gourmet Catering
and
Septic Tank Cleaning

Ekspat
08-09-05, 09:37
$20 damage ST.Wow, Martini talents are up to 20USD for ST already? Have been to PP last year, 2004 it was still 20-25USD for LT.

How much is LT now?

Hopefully I can visit PP in October or so, since I avoid Jakarta during Ramadhan.

Cheers!

Asian Rain
08-09-05, 17:54
Wow, Martini talents are up to 20USD for ST already? Have been to PP last year, 2004 it was still 20-25USD for LT.

Correct - LT rate is still US$20-25. I pay the LT rate even when I use a girl ST as I video tape the session. Extra special service with top talent gets extra pay in my book. Even if I keep a girl over night (which I avoid these days due to sleep problems) with video, she will still get the $20-25 range.

My mates all pay $10-15 for ST, so rest assured that my video habit is not spoiling the market. There is beau coup cheap beautiful pussy still available! Martini will be a superb Ramadhan getaway. Enjoy, AR+

Small Buterfly
08-12-05, 09:46
In general:

Everything is imported, almost no supermarket with quoted prices, and in small shops you often pay 2 times prices for locals . They take us for ambullant wallets as they have been spoilt by UN forces and NGO who spent lot of Dollars of international funds.

Now you have to struggle to pay in Riels, they ask 1 Dollar for anything!

Ladies:

I went many times at Sharky, near my hostel. There seems to be a collusion between them and girls, as they dont want you to take others (saw one giving back money to one girl in the stairs).

Choice limited to about 20-30 girls, and no other bar around except l Asiate which is different aimed. Found only tough Viets, not too bad looking but greedy.

Choosed one OK for pictures but once in room said no and stressed me to finish after some minutes.

The worst was the third from Walkabout who was OK for camera with hidden face but blackmailed me to call police before leaving as she wanted 30 USD instead of 15 for those poors pictures.

I said her pictures where not exciting and erased them , but she left threatening, I spent all night waiting police for nothing.

Does anybody know if private pictures are punished in Cambodia?

I did some in Thailand too for personnal use (find unfair to publish without agreement so far); do you know in which non islamic country it is forbidden?

Did anybody have such an experience?

I visited Martini only once, disco was packed and westeners not numerous, but I like to see and speak quietly, met a nice viet outside but she wanted to go in ST hotel, so went back to Walabout where I had that bad expwerience.

I walked kilometers to find brothels I heard about in medias, saw none, the boss of l Asiate said police closed lots and may be asking money from farangs if found there.

All Cambodian are not like that, I had some good chats with people I met , but the context was not about mongering. I think you guys who have good experiences are more prepared to deal with those scams, it was MY experience of small shy butterly!

Run Mann
08-13-05, 15:51
There's a couple of taxi drivers who advertise their services on this board, scrool down and real back through the pages or check the classified ads too, one taxi driver has his own website. You can hire these guys for $15.00 to $20.00 a day and they will take you to the right spots. My driver took me to a place near the riverside where we went for a ride with the girls on a a boat for an hour, fun stuff even though I didn't want any of them.

These girls may be less opt to want to run a scam on you if they know you are with a local who knows the deal. I really enjoyed Phnom Pehn but felt more at ease with my Taxi Driver.

Ljohnson
08-15-05, 00:33
I arrived in PP July 17 and departed July 19. There on business which took place the night of the 18th (dinner meeting) and the morning of the 19th. The rest of the time was "playtime."

My regular driver, Neak Yorn, picked me up at the airport. First stop was his house to say hello to his wife and kids and some neighbors. Next stop was a pharmacy where I loaded up on Kamagra and Zeagra. I bought 12 4-paks for $72. $1.50 per tab. Then on to my hotel. I had reserved a room at the California II for two nights. Yorn was skeptical about the place but I was curious having heard so much via the internet. I should have listened to Yorn. The room they showed me was pretty sad. I am not a high maintenance guy, but by the time I had experienced a power blackout 10 minutes after my arrival, no COLD water when I showered, the complete collapse of the shower curtain and rod, and the general size and condition of the room, I packed up my stuff and gave the owner $10 (the room was $20/nt) and left.

Yorn took me to a place right across from Central Market that had a huge room with a great view of the market for the same price. The name is something like New La Paiullete Hotel. I spent my two days there. The first night we stopped by Sharky's. It was early and very little action. At Yorn's suggestion I opted for a special adventure later in the evening and called it a night.

The next day I was supposed to go to Sihanoukville but that was cancelled. At this point I had two drivers, Yorn and his friend Phen, who was driving the car. I wanted to see the Killing Fields so they took me out there. Interesting. I found several items in the gift shop that I bought and took home.

When we got back to PP I wanted to get laid so they took me to a lady house where I selected 2 Khmer cuties for $20 total (short time on premises.) To my dismay they would not suck my dick but they were cute with nice bodies and good attitudes. Well worth the $20 I paid. About 18 years old.

Lunch at a very cool place on Mekong Island (name of town: Prik Liep. name of restaurant: Molupsoubov) with good food and hammocks for before and after lunch. It started pouring down rain while we were there. A good experience.

That night Yorn asked if I wanted to go to a Cambodian Club. I said "Sure, why not." If you have not tried this I recommend it. It probably works best if a local takes you. We went to a place called "Golden Boss" very near Wat Phnom. We were greeted by numerous Khmer lovelies at the door. We were given what seemed like VIP service. After we were seated and ordered drinks (whisky by the bottle only; not by the glass; I got a bottle of Johnny Walker Red for $19) I was asked if I wanted a girl to sit with me. I said yes and the mama wisely chose a Vietnamese beauty who spoke some English. She was a lovely date for the evening. We talked and drank and even danced.

This club is not for everyone. It has very few foreigners (one other besides me in the whole place) and the local men are mostly older Khmers with money. I felt comfortable being accompanied by my two drivers. All the drinks and snacks came to about $30. I took the girl back to my hotel for another $30 and she did everything and was as sweet as could be. All in all a good experience. You might want to try a Cambodian club next time.

A good 2 days in PP.

LJohnson

That Asshole
08-15-05, 12:12
cambodia trip 2005 info for sex-tourist wsg forum members only

by: alexander

disclaimer: at the moment sex related tourism is not illegal in most countries as long as it satisfies a few criterias. however considering the currently growing influence of femine-nazist groups in world affairs, this may change in the near future. it is your responsibility to check the legal situation before you embark on sex-related travel.

contents:

various types of bars in p.pen

comparing p.pen with pattaya

martini's disco + moto fares

inconveniences of cambodia

shihanoukville

visa matterrs

some heart-warming stories

koh kong border crossing

siem reap


1.
i made a few mistakes on previous trips. it's like the case of the proverbial ho. when you have the looks (or cash) you seem to have so many friends.

however in fact everyone wants just to screw you and to dump you. therefore on first trips i was elated by the friendliness of cambodian people. however after the initial smile the outstretched hand always follows:"give me!" it's like their national ritual. yet, if you keep it strictly business, you can have a reasonable time.

there are some positives as well:

first of all, the attitude of a thai or filipina barho might be: "you know, you should be really glad that i talk with you."

while a canbo brothel-ho goes:"thank you sir for letting me suck your dick and feed my family!"

that's the prime difference in attitudes that justifies a trip to this otherwise totally pathetic country. there are two types of available meat to fuck: the viet and the canbo. usually, they are all nice and well trained.

the grottier the brothel is, the better the attitude (but not always). aren't poor people are always nicer?

looks can be quite average, most are just well fed brown little monkies (i mean they are not very slim neither fat just plump) but the occasional tall, slim model looker does turn up and it costs just the same.

for a start, while many cheaper thai hos (like in the $5-$20range) have had childbirths, the hookers of canbo are mostly childless, therefore are obviously in better shape.

while pattaya might be a one continuous celebration of womanhood, p.pen is rather a 'one-pop-goodbye' sort of place. it is not so popular to travel with your ho here.

(well, where would you go anyway?) also, it's rather an exception to find a ho in p.pen who can speak reasonable english. they really excel at short time assignments and are really dedicated to service. because they are supervised. yes, they have to excel. that's good news for you.

2.
there are good bars - average bars and - bad bars. by this i mostly mean the attitude of the staff who work there. this makes up 90 percent of the experience. the other 10 percent is the decoration, etc. which really is not that important. see sophie's for example. it's really a shithole, there is nothing in terms of decoration yet they are hugely successful due to the attentive service they provide.

you really feel important and pampered when you sit in there. if you are fed up with bossy cunts at home your own female-ruled country then cambodia is all you need. bless their work!

there are basically three kinds of meat-oriented-bars in p.p.

a. hostess bar
here you drink at tables or sit on a barstool. lighting is bright. they will have female staff who can talk with you if you are so inclined. likely some would speak passable english.

others may just sit with you smiling and possibly holding your hand if you wish - unable to string together a meaningful sentence. drinks start from $1. if you get along with the **** then in some bars you may barfine her (ie.take out of the bar for the night) for around $10 (eg. coyote bar, zanzibar, rose bar). on top of this you will have to pay her for the service which which may or may not involve sex. normal overnight fee would be around $20. . in other bars it's like the good old pub back at home where you just talk with the staff and that's it (eg. cathouse).

i really don't know what's the deal in this but apparently some guys like it. these places do deal in prostitution but do it very sensitively so they don't catch too much attention. regularly they will employ larger size girls with more model(ish) looks but also often matched with pride, ego and poor attitude as well. unless you are already married or a masochist or just plain stupid there is no point why you should visit these. list is given below.

-cathouse st#118
-bar 104 (new bar, same boss as dv8) st#104
-dv8 (this used to be a sex-bar but now unfortunately turned into a hostess sort of bar, but still they are reasonably friendly, ...apart from the mamasan who is unfriendly) st#148
-coyote bar st#94, wat phnom
-shanghai bar st #51
-banana bar (this too started out as a sex bar but now a hostess bar. not so good any more.)st#136
-zanzibar (very unfriendly. not recommended at all.) st#104
-rose bar (the mother of all un-friendly bars. what the fuck are they doing there? they expect the customer to court them, plain and simple. this is the worst of the worst, as has always been.)st#104
-fleur de asie (nice, some reasonably friendly but plain girls but no real beauties, also little english spoken, not particularly fun at all) sisovath q.rd, cnr st#104
-sweethearts st#51
-there are more, and new ones open all the time.

b.sex bar
here the lighting will be more dim. the service is unashamedly oriented towards sex. many of the girls will speak none or very little english but it's not the point here. as soon as you sit down girls will surround you. you may feel them up if you wish. certainly they will feel you up with numerous hands. drinks are a bit more expensive, starting at $2.

as they make you horny very soon,
you may take one-two or more to a private room on site where you can fuck the shit out of them. these girls are usually very horny. often it's hard to believe that they do it for cash.

they seem so passionate with a stranger they met only 2 minutes before. usually they are little, more plain girls but the occasional beauty can turn up here as well. they must be receiving some sort of training because service is usually very good and attentive. customer is boss here.

also, you don"t have to talk with them a lot which is a bonus. at least you don't get braindamaged. full service usually costs $10 all incl. many of the cunts have been spoilt to the point so that now they also expect a tip of a dollar or two on top of this. please don't spoil them even more by being too generous. then they start to expect a large tip from everyone.

they can also be taken out for overnight for around $20-30 all incl. but of course this is no good for the other punters who may also want to fuck them so please don't do it often. if you are happy with them, put them back into circulation quickly, so the next guy can enjoy too.

'do unto others as you would have others do unto you.'
you will sleep so much better alone anyway.

i won't give a list of these because there are too many perverts trying to do them harm. if you are dedicated go and find them yourself. you will be rawarded for your little effort.

note:
often the bars that are oriented towards locals (khmer men) will also have some signs in english, which is confusing because they don't like foreigners. (it's just so fashionable to have english sign!)

usually it's worth to avoid bars that also have a big khmer sign next to the english text or the english sign is smaller than the khmer sign. these are for the locals. no one will speak with you here and you will not be welcomed at all. the real foreigner oriented bars have a large sign in english and maybe their name also with tiny khmer letters in one corner.

i would also recommend that anyone avoid rose bar and zanzibar, both on st.104. both very unpleasant, service is unexisting, staff unfriendly. in fact their business is unclear, rather seem to be oriented towards mazochist males seeking some more pain measured out by dead bored, unpleasant spoiled khmer hos. even a smile will cost you much and the only joy you can expect is from your angkor beer. fleur de asia bar on the corner is only marginally better and is also not recommended. it is run by some bored aging khmer female wearing too much gold jewellery.

c. freelancer pickup-bar, such as sharky's, walkabout, martini's and others.


3.
a short visit is best:

comfort levels being so much lower in p.pen but service quality so much higher for the same amount of bucks these two factors somehow compensate for each other.

at least on the short term. while it is quite possible to spend months in pattaya, in p.pen one week must be the absolute limit. the main prohibiting factors being:

-total boredom during the day up to 7pm.
-the noise all over town, you can't even stay in your room
-the innumerable moto drivers hassleing you as you step out of your door
-the basic low level of hotel facilities (no safe deposit boxes, etc)
-poor and expensive selection of food
-the hardships of long distance travel anywhere in the country

no cinemas, not even a park to sit down. no nothing. the p.pen riverside might seem inviting and tranquil enough. however think of a tranquil looking pond full of piranhas.

in no time you will be chased down the road by hordes of beggars. anywhere near the riverside is strictly for locals and hypocrite missionaries. armies of moto drivers will swoop down on you as you step out on the street, taking the enjoyment out of even the shortest walk.

the food the locals eat is cow-dung and to get proper feed you will pay big bucks (think of 4 times thailand prices). still, the fare will be very limited and you are likely to suffer malnutrition on the long term.

daytime there is basically nothing to do after 3 days. you likely can't stay in your hotel room during the day because of the continuous grinding noise of a metal-working factory (on every corner in downtown), or some other noise or factory or building-site.

travelling anywhere far is extremely exhausting due to the crowdedness, slow pace and general lack of comfort. the public buses are bad enough. the speed-boats between koh-kong and shihanoukville are two grades even worse. at every disembarkation point you will have to fight (by fist and nails) with hordes of driver-touts, will be pushed to the ground and your bag may be snatched from your hands if you are not strong or determined enough.

i have been through it and hated that fight at the end of every trip. no joke, they are literally animals. other travellers did even worse, as i had observed. if there aren't enough passengers for everyone, getting lynched by angry drivers is not too remote of a possibility. think of packs of mad dogs or wolves.

in fact, appreciating the positive factors of a visit while limiting the inconveniences, a one week trip from pattaya would be ideal. anything more than a week is a pain. you must be crazy like me to spend three weeks. it was survivable but wouldn't do it again.

a suggested one week itinerary for a dedicated sex-tourist might be:

day one
take 11am bus from pattaya, change to minibus in trat, cross border to
koh kong, visit the chickenfarm, one fuck, two or three at cost of b150/200 each ($4-5)

day two
boat to shihanoukville leaves 8am, arrive 1pm. (be warned, it can be a shitty ride!) visit to chicken farm around 5pm, one fuck on site or take-away b200-300, evening blue mountain one fuck b400 then biba disco near chickenfarm around 9-10pm.

day three
bus to phnom penh 7.30am, arr.12 noon. walkabout hotel bar, pickup an afternoon fuck for b300-400. evening: street 63 brothels, boom-boom massage at bun paw hotel, heaven hotel, sakura or other brothels around town, fuck b400+tip. late night dance at martinis, fuck for b400.
day four, day five - p.pen

day six
bus to shihanouk, stay overnight

day seven
boat to koh kong, sleep overnight

day eight
cross border to hat lek, take minibus to trat, you are back in civilisation, take 12 noon bus to pattaya, enjoy real food, real roads, real people (sort of), cleanliness...,gogo bars, it's heaven.

but for the next week you will be dreaming about the pussies you had over the border for the price of two beers at tony's disco. you will want another short visit soon.

have a nice trip!


4.

martini disco, p.pen

the old martini was better. for a start, the dancing room had two entrances, providing for emergency exit, which the new one is totally lacking. also, obviously the ventillation was much better.

personally, i dislike the present martini's, as there is too much talk, too much smoke, little air, little action and many hos have bad attitudes. lots of the better looking khmer girls go there to pick-up local men only.also, it's far away from other entertainment areas.
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moto prices:
it seems that now moto drivers and cyclos too now automatically quote foreigners $2 even for the shortest trip. obviously some pay that price. however, from experience the following are the correct rates for foreigners (locals pay even less):

-from walkabout hotel (or around there on pasteur st) to::: - sharkies bar or to psar tmei or to bus station or to riverfront day r1000-1500, night 2000, to martini's area r 3000 day, r4000 night
($1=riel4000 approx.)


5.
some thoughts and stories:

sitting on top floor of soriya foodhall. four backpacker cunts at next table. seemingly they are well off. they can afford to travel. i am thinking: who sent these to school? if they didn't go to study, they would now be busy working on their backs or giving blowjobs for 50 pence in some outer london bar. who sent them to school?

also, you will notice quite a number of western females with young local khmer ho-boys in tow. doesn't anyone find that totally disguisting. it's totally degrading to men. how can they be allowed to do it? i noticed the same trend emerging in pattaya too. sex-tourist western prostitutes.

how can a woman afford to travel anyway, if not from the proceeds of prostitution?

whenever they put the paint on the face, look in the mirror, go to the hair-dresser, select an effective dress, read the cosmopolitan magazine on some new slutty pick-up technique they are selling meat.

in any country, be it europe, america or new zealand. it's just not called by that name but in fact these girls got their money from selling their meat - one way or the other. why are they in so much higher esteem than the cambodian ho doing blowjobs for $3/hr on st.63?

it wasn't always like this. they really acquired status only in the past 50 years or so. i think one day the men will wake up and put an end to this trend. because where is it leading to? to the slavery of men?what is the fate of men when the hos take over?

i am so disgusted that feel like getting another $5 bj again by a friendly, subservient viet beauty. a real woman.


6.
a little more about the inconveniences of phnom penh:

1.first there is the noise. there seems to be a metal workshop on every corner. some has three. the constant sound of grinding metal permeates the air. many are into making welded window grilles in the middle of town, on the streets. you try a dozen different hotels and they are all the same because sure there will be a grinding-workshop just under your hotel-window.

2.the constant hassle of the moto drivers. often it is so frustrating, you feel like screaming them to fuck off. like swarms of flies, everywhere you go. they never learn. you said a thousand times:no! and they come 1001 times "motorbike sir, killing fields?, riverside?". these people have no self-respect at all. how can they expect to get respect from the foreigner?

3.trying to cross the roads on foot with the never ceasing flow of traffic coming at you from 10 different directions. at the same time trying to escape moto drivers proposing while you are right in the thick of it when you need every bit of concentration.

4. the food sucks. you can't eat what the locals eat because they can't understand a word. and even if you learn a few words from a phrase book they wont listen anyway because they think it's unbelievable that a foreigner would speak their language. but after you observe how the food is handled, you wouldn't want to eat there anyway.

that leaves the expensive tourist restaurants. forget the 50cent kao-phads of thailand. the minimum you will spend on reasonable food is at least $3-4 (120-160 baht) per meal. multiply that three times, count on about b400/day. (note:there are some reasonably cheap food stalls in sorya shopping centre).

5. hotels are pathetic. at least in the price range of under $20/night the scene is very amateurish. rooms are tiny. if something is broken consider it broken, it's fucked and will never get fixed. and can you really explain what you want?

despite of taking this english course and that, the very majority of hotel staff will not understand anything beyond "single-room, double room, fan room five dollars sir". plus there is the security issue. see below.

6.admittedly, they are mostly nice, friendly people. there are signs in the rooms "please store your valuables in the hotel safe". what is the hotel safe? the drawer of the receptionist boy or girl! who has access to it? everyone! wouldn't you rather have a big strong metal door between nice people and your $$$/passport/air ticket? pretty much any hotel under $20 a night won't have any really safe "safe".

safety on the streets. if you carry all your valuables on you and you happen to have an accident you can count on being robbed while incapacitated. so, should you leave them in your room? the whole setup is so amateurish, nowhere near are to the efficient systems of thailand.
at night you can't walk the streets. plain and simple. no streetlighting whatsoever beyond the one street on the riverfront. walk, meet a bunch of beggars, or a group of young kids, or a couple of strongmen and you will be sorry. those smiley people may not be so smiley when it's dark and noone else is around. even on moto it's fucking scary at times.

there is an efficient tourist police in thailand who often speak english. none of that here. if you are in shit, how will you explain it? likely you will still have to pay bribes to get any action at all. if you lost your things, how you do that? if one cop in a hundred speaks sufficient english in thailand, maybe one in a thousand here. but you would really want to avoid them anyway.

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all in all, it's really not worth coming here, if except for the exceptional service of sex-workers, the novelty and the thrill. even though sex is comparatively cheap, other expenses are higher and the troubles are a lot greater too. the most important thing you will need to have is plenty of good luck!

if you have the $$$ and patience to search through the uglies, you could find comparably good sex in thailand (but $40++) and the food will certainly be better too.

so, it's really just for a change. (and the exceptional devoted service.) for trying something different. just to make you appreciate how lucky you are in thailand.


7.
how to find sihanouk brothels (the ones that you can walk to):
you need preferably : a compass ($1 at psar leu) plus a map of town(free from guesthouses)

method1: starting at psar leu (central market)
stand in front of central market on 7makara st, opposite te lee hong restaurant. take a compass reading, you should be facing total west.

turn to your right, walk to end of street (about 50 m). at end of street turn left, now you are facing total west again. this is omui street, a paved road.
about 50m ahead you already should be able to see the "rainbow guesthouse" sign on top of a pole. as you stand, it's on the right side of the road. the arrow on the sign is pointing to total north. it is a yellow sign and apart from the english words also has some khmer characters.

it's illuminated at night. once you reach it, you will see it's a dirt-road, both sides lined with signs saying "massage".
there are about a dozen houses altogether on this little street. you will see girls (and older women too) sitting outside or lying in hammocks. they will speak to you in english. "hello, come in!" one hour in their grotty rooms, massage $5, boom-boom $10.

some places will let you fuck 30 minutes for $5. it's very near town, you should be allright on your own, even at night. or better, go there in daylight like 5pm, they are already open. "blue mountain 1&2" are also on this street.
if you want better girls, come back to the rainbow gh sign. turn right again to omui st. you are facing total west again. walk down another 100 m, you will reach the sophamomgkol st intersection. on the corner on your left there is a bar called "emerald bar".

on your right there is another dirt track with another sign saying "massage, 999 guesthouse". this street also pointing to total north. walk in another 100 m and on your right there is the 999 massage. price same, $5/10. the girls are nicer here but aren't so many as the other street. this is a very dark street at night but you can also go in daylight, they are already open around 4-5pm. but there are more girls at night.

method 2, alternative approach:
start at in front of fisherman's den bar. you are standing on sophemongkol st, facing total west again. turn right, cross the main rd (ekareach st) and follow sophemongkol st all the way to the end of the road to total north. it's not far, about 200 m all. where the paved road ends, starts the dirt track leading to 999 gh. it's just the continuation of sophemongkol st.

from that point, the rainbowgh sign is total east to you. same story as before. basically all the 'entertainment' is on omui street and it's side streets. there is a lot more heading towards total east but you will need a moto to go for sure, even daytime. count on another $5 added to your bill for commission to the driver. unless you hire a scooter, i know of no way to avoid this. the driver may say that he doesn't get a commission but that's bs.



8.
how much does the tourist visa cost?
if you go through p.pen airport, you will pay $20 for a 30 day visa. at land border crossings this is not enforced though. the usual unofficial price seems to be 1000 baht (about $25) but it can be anywhere up to b1300. lots of travellers get through for the official price of $20. if you are male, are polite, dress respectably and have a reasonably good story i can't see no reason why anyone should pay more than $20 (plus maybe a small gift if necessary).

females may pay more. i have seen two blonde british female-imitations paying b1300 each. the funny thing was that they had the dollars but no more baht left and the lovely border guys didn't let them pay in dollars. they were directed to some moto driver who changed for them at some particularly shitty rate like 35 baht to the dollar. so all in all they paid for the visa about $40 each.


the reason is pretty logical really. they turned up there with bare assess and tits overflowing tiny dresses and possibly they expected the border officials to faint by the view "oh tits, and ass! we poor deprived guys aren't worthy!", just as they are used to in europe and north america.


however these guys are still real, un-deprived, un-brainwashed simple men. these cunts made them horny. they wanted to fuck them. they couldn't, so just made them cunts pay for their trip to the local chickenfarm. well done guys. you are champs!

it was fun to watch and laugh though.

some tourists who got particularly obnoxious about not paying got also turned back to thailand, being refused entry to cambodia. in that case you will have to try another border crossing. there is also a "black list". it is sometimes displayed at the immigration office. the reason why someone might get on it i am unsure of, however last time there were about four israely's, one american, one australian and several chinese listed.

there is another blacklist, on the thai side as you go back. that might have importance if you try to bring back a canbo ho to thailand. some guys have bought cambodian passports for their ladies (that they met at some bars) just to find out that those females had already been deported in the past from thailand and blacklisted for reason of "prostitution".


9.
pol pot, killing fields, etc...

if you were thinking of giving in to one of the pestering moto drivers and visit the "killing fields" or the s-21 complex in town, do yourselves a favour and forget it. both are a waste of time.

badly displayed, badly narrated. there is really nothing at either places. no-thing! just some piles of bone looking displays (that could be really made of plaster for what we know) at killing fields plus a few trenches. for that you travel all over town?

at s-21 it's basically just a couple of hundred portrait photos (like passport photos). some empty rooms. empty! nothing in them. and more empty rooms. and more. how exciting.

well, they died. so what? we all die. why make a big issue of it? well, for the $$$$..? and for the sympathy? you pay $$ at both sites plus have to fight off hordes of beggars. whether the story told is true or not, now we have no way to know.

the history books always teach only what is politically correct at the time. the real truth you will never know. sure, if we troubled to listen to the other side there would be completely different stories to be told. what is politically correct at the time is ' true', what is incorrect is a ' lie'.

i am not saying that it is all lies, but it seems the greater sympathy they get the bigger the handouts. so, perhaps just discount it by 50%.

by the way, just like at these sites, wherever you go in the country there will be countless of outstretched hands:"give me!" seems so much easier than working.


10.
a nice story:

one beautiful fucker
this is a viet run brothel. i won't write it's location here. ask your moto driver. if he is any good, he will know many places like this.
we drive up dirt road. about 8 chicks sit inside the gate. no other customers in sight. i sit down, get a can of beer for $1.

one of them sits on my lap. they all speak passable english. we laugh and joke a bit. i take my time to look at them well. notice a real tall beauty. she introduces herself politely. they change, now she sits on my lap. we agree with mamasan on $10/hr.

it's good to deal with their owners. like a meat-shop (or a thai massage parlour). driver gets some of it but nevermind, it's still good value. about 400 baht. quality of this one meat is gogo-bar level (think super baby/pattaya)and beyond.

room is pretty grotty but at least has proper light and own (barrel/scoop) bathroom. as she undresses i can see that see is real beauty. she speaks khmer, vietnamese, lao and english so communication is real easy. very tall and slender girl, could make it to a magazine cover in the west. she is 20 but of course no kids yet. her exceptional beauty might come from the fact of mix blood. lao mama and viet papa.

there are many of us (inluding myself) who normally don't feel comfortable with a very beautiful girl. there is just so much shit going on about them. however she hasn't been spoilt and is very down to earth. her greatest experience ever was that once she got fucked in a $50 hotel room in phnom penh. how luxurious! may she ever stay this simple.

we get along well. it does not have to be gfe but still a very good fuck. sucking like she really takes pride in her technique. keeps looking in my eyes, wondering if i like it. in fact i do.

it would be so easy to behave like a dick-head does and to fall for her and come back again and to shower her with presents. however this would destroy the best in her. i give her $1 tip and leave. used to give them $2 but that's too much. really must take care not to spoil them. we are all responsible for their future. let them stay simple, live simple, live happy.


she gives me a long, curly, black hair from her pussy so that i can think of her any time. in fact i often do in the next few days, even though i lost her present. i imagine her cute face, huge eyes like a horse, long slender fingers like tenticles of a squid and big fleshy lips like a seabass. together they all add up very effectively though.

after the fuck it was funny to watch her spectacular meat to put on the cheap clothes (rags really). her bra was way oversized, she borrowed it from another girl because the only one she owned was in washing. it was good to see a real beautiful woman to be in such low status. no, not degraded. just low. just right, as it should be.

no expensive parfumes or catwalks or photoshoots and hordes of courting dickheads - as a western ho of her looks might have. just rags and sucking cocks for $3 an hour (i guess her share from the total).

i feel glad that another guy is going to fuck her the next time, and another one and another and so on. isn't it good to share our hos? peace in the world. no fighting, no killing about meat because everybody gets enough. heaven, happiness for all. sex-tourists do their own share to create worldwide peace. we try.

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it's all in the training:
cambodia is a rotten place. somebody in this forum has called it a 'shithole' before. others might object to the term, however here is one more vote in favour of it.

there is only one thing to it's credit: the many beautiful, unspoilt women. simple, affectionate, subservient and as cheap as they get.
many say that in thailand or the philippines a man doesn't have to have the ' works' to copulate with beautiful women. it is not so. if you believe this and go there, you will be disappointed. either in pi or thailand you need the looks, charm or cash to do it.

cambodia is the only place that i know where you can be as fat, ugly, without front teeth, without charm as it gets and still receive good sex, good service from real beautiful tender women, for very little cash. the only thing you will need is to be able to cope with some (major!) inconveniences and hassles of the country.

there is of course no paradise on earth, you have to dare to do things to get results. the same goes here. for the convenience of developed thailand, you forgo the royal treatment that is a matter of course in brothels of this less developed nation.

why are they like this? how did they become like this?

these girls are not this good because they have 'good hearts' or they are a 'good breed' or they eat the right food. but simply because they were trained to be like this. trained not by gold and jewellery and joy-vacations and fine silks. but by the khmer rouge, by hardships, by hunger and pain. the results are nothing but spectacular.

i am dreaming: if we could put the western hos in re-education camps, they all would be like these. their pride and arrogance is all just learned and not absolute.

11.
another lovely story:

fucktime again. want a place where a man doesn't have to 'prostitute' himself to get a good fuck? no charms, no dribling saliva, no sweet-talking.

think:"brothel". the best place to meet and to meat, to point and fuck (p&f method).most of us have found heaven and earth difference between attitudes of thai and western hos however with the cambo and viet meat this is even more evident. these fuckers have been treated like dogs all their life therefore they are still wonderfully unspoilt.

they are born to serve and live to please. costs being on par with thailand (when we consider all expenses) and living conditions barely basic, this attitude issue makes up for all the hardships one has to go through in this dusty country at the end of the world.

i sit down in one corner of the semi-dark room. nice bar. there about 15 hos around in it. right away two of them jump up and sit down left and right side. attentive service. (no, it's not sophie's.) basically zero english if spoken however i quite like that. at least you don't get the shit that comes from the mouth.

anyone tried it when two warm wet tongues explore your earlobes from two sides. unreal feeling with that tingling sensation running up and down your spine. of course you also get the ball-massage at the same time.

i will just call them miss left and miss right. miss left although slim enough, wasn't very attractive, being too far on the wrong side of 20, also displaying some scars on the arm. miss right was in much better condition. cute face, nice smile, reasonably slim. however i had a slight uneasy feeling that i had fucked it before. can't do a ho twice. it's a matter of principles.

as i got this far in thoughts i was already holding miss right's right tit in one palm under the dress. it felt softish, fresh, young, not too big but still cute size. no, i hadn't had this one yet, i concluded. it felt quite different than the other.

they pointed to the ceiling, meaning: let's go upstairs to fuck. i pointed to miss right, meaning :'with you only'. she carried my drink up the stairs. comfortable, clean room, large mirrors on all sides and on ceiling. we undress each other. she politely giggles all the time, making me feel good that i must be so attractive and funny. shower together. cuddling, kissing. feels like we have known each other for a decade or so, she is so natural.

sucks very well too. she gets very wet and good, very hot fuck follows. i am spoilt by now, had so many of these before. we fill out a whole hour but there is no time limit anyway.

what i enjoy most of all is not the fuck itself but the level of service that i receive. like a khan, an emperor, a sheikh. showering again, sit back down at the bar. two new chicks also come around. yes, the one i fucked before is also there, i recognise her. the one with the big bangers.

we all have a bit of giggling together. i tip the fucker $1, pay the drink and the bar and hand out a few cent tips to other hos. all inclusive bill around $16 for the night. it was a total egotrip. highly recommended. but if you are an asslicker for hos, please don't go there. we don't want you to spoil them. we like being spoilt ourselves.


12.
a lovely viet treat:
another day. this one was the most beautiful so far, once again. it had been so good that i thought it can only get worse then i met this tiny cute viet. something like 30kgs. age 22. no kids. i was totally lost in admiration. such a tiny little animal sucking and fucking like there's no tomorrow. was into totally everything and also extremely playful. cost: approx. $16 for the full hour, incl drinks and some little tip.


again, i can understand men who fall in love with them as it is hard to be strong and not ask for repeats. it was an amazing experience but of course one **** should get only one load of sperm. let's pass them on. it is good to share the goodies, that's so social and selfless, brotherly.

such as a rotten place p.pen is, these little nightshift epizodes sweeten up the whole story.

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about the cunts in general:
if you think that you go to martini's and will hook the best looking ho, think again. it doesn't work like that. among the punters there are many-many local guys. lots of the girls speak zero english and much prefer the khmer guys who actually have just as much money as you or more. i have seen so many young and reasonable looking foreigner guys being turned down and have been turned down myself at times. it's not like l.a. cafe in manila where only foreigner men go.

in fact now that they have that terribly smoky, unventillated dance room without any emergency exits, i would write martini's off altogether. if you are of average looking with average finances and speak no khmer there are a lot of much better places to spend your money and time. martini's is a pathetic, third-world joke.

possibly the only good thing is the large screen jackie chan movies starting around 7pm. many of the girls who go there i see year after year. i know many of these girls and had talked with them years before. a hardened pro is unlikely to work in a brothel any more as already knowing the scene she can make more money by going independent. these are the ones relatively easy to pick-up there. if you made an easy pickup at martini's last time, chances are that she had about 2 million miles in the clock. the semi-pro girls you will have to chat up very gently. too much trouble in my opinion. much easier to go to a brothel/bar of some sort.


13.
trip to kompong cham

what isaan is to the thai bargirl, the visayas to the pilipina ho so is kompong cham province to many of canbo brothelstock. it's their home of origin. had to have a look. as it turned out to be a pain in the ass yet it was still worth it just to see.

the distance is not too great, about 100 km from p.pen, the road is quite good and paved but still over 3 hours trip. on the positive side, the bus didn't break down and it was reasonably airconditioned. although quite cramped inside, having a middle row formed from small plastic stools. we stopped the same place where the siem reap bus stops to buy some roast spiders. they are black, big, about 10 cm long. another hour and half to k.cham. checked into some real crappy hotel that was supposed to be best in town.

took a moto tour around town for an hour. there is a big river (maybe the mekong?), lots of palm trees and rice fields. once you get out of town it's quite exotic and clean although boring. there are also some spectacular ruins in town that resemble angkor without the tourist hordes. free to enter.
i asked the moto driver, who said he studied english for 6 years but hardly understood a thing - about "chicken farms, women, boom-boom, etc" - without any success. finally he wanted to take me to some temple where he said there would be "women - and men". so i left it at that.

clearly this is not foreigners playground. i couldn't even buy food. there seemed to be one restaurant in town but even that only had fried rice. however after wandering around that horrible market i decided against eating anything that moved before. stocked up on bananas and that had to do until returning to p.pen asap!

the "city" itself is truly miserable sight. rubbish thrown everywhere, dead chicken on the path with bowels pouring out. people literally sitting in their own shit. crumbling old buildings are some reminder of the past might of the french. seems that by throwing them out they also threw out civilisation. what under the "oppressors" once could have been a beautiful city now is a complete dunghill. literally it is. although the locals seemed reasonably friendly (at least in daylight, didn't dare venturing out at night), just couldn't get out of there fast enough on the earliest bus the next morning.

originally i had plans of visiting other canbo cities like battambang, pursat, etc but now i think there would be hardly any point venturing out of the relative "comfort" of the capital. outside there is just absolutely zero provision for tourism, save a little for sihanoukville. just a little. somebody has raised a question earlier in the forum if there was any chance of roughing it through the brothels of the countryside? i think : forget it boy, forget it!

14.
go-go looking girl for hire: 560 baht

so far this one was the most beautiful. real go-go bar stock for the bargain price of just about 560 baht. tall, slender, young 21, no kids, sweet innocent looking face, beautiful model body, large nice shaped breasts. from one of the upmarket brothels of phnom penh. sucking like crazy and fucking like a nympho.

without any warm-up, just straight into it like a porno flick. she is very well trained. as i sat down and she came to feel me up her first words were: "i love you, i want you fuck me hard!" (this being nearly all she could speak.) how could you refuse that?

cost:
bar $10
drink $3
tip to **** $1
total: $14 approx. 560 baht
time: approx. 40 minutes
cost per minute: 14 baht or 35 cent/min
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compare that to the cost from a pattaya gogo:
bf: $15
****: $37
drinks:$5
total: $57 or 2280 baht
time:40-60 minutes
cost per minute: 38-57 baht or 95 cent-$1.40/min
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i havent figured out yet how to objectively quantify the attitude part but one thing is sure that so far most p.pen brothel girls rated well in the attitude part without much effort from my side. the same i cannot say about good looking gogo or bargirls in pattaya (or anywhere).

this possibly will explain why many people keep returning to this dirt-slum called phnom penh that is expensive, irritating, noisy and dangerous. a complete shithole it is but yet still a lightyear ahead of the rest of the country. apart from the night shift it's a real pain to be here. see separate posting about why p.pen sucks.


15.
a typical arrival in phnom penh

lots of new bars opening every year. a few go under but the growth is still more. also lots of new hotels under construction.

information/map:
free copies of the excellent guide to phnom penh + free info map at most tourist bars, like walkabout, sharky, etc. most girlie bars have listings in these.

first stop, dv8 bar, near the river. the atmosphere has changed a bit. it used to be a dark hole with lots of slutty girls. now there is proper lighting and the girls are not so slutty in general. maybe even bordering the respectable. i don't like the mamasan though. very big mouthed and rather unfriendly.

had a good fuck. they charge you $5 for the room upstairs and the **** wanted $10 st, total $15 (600b). about 3 good looking girls in this bar. the rest is average or below. but everyone is quite friendly (apart from the mamasan, who looks like a spoilt rotten ho).

i gather that not all fuck though (also might depend on the punter). i had my eyes on a different one, we talked a bit but she didn't seem too interested so i didn't even raise the subject. but this other little **** came around, started rubbing herself all over me so it was a plain and simple act. in the room she turned out to be even more beautiful. sort of "girl-next-door" type with a big smile. well above general soi yoksad level. also seemed quite inexperienced and unvilling to experiment but nevermind, it was worth 600 baht because the girl was very beautiful and even sort of "friendlyish".

the next one was way better. smiled at some skinny cute canbo chick at walkabout and sse smiled back but i thought better keep looking. so she started talking with another guy and in 5 minutes they went upstairs together. now there are viet chicks too at walkabout. i generally find the viets rather businesslike but a real cute one came around in a few minutes and she wasn't like that. soon we were laughing and rubbing shoulders. i can understand how men (especially older men) fall for them. she reminded me of the girls at our local chinatown back at home and the viet actresses in them kung fu movies.

she was extremely cute and friendly, about 21. good enough. price she asked $10, i said $8 and she okayed as it was still early, like 5pm so she could get a few more pops later. we went to my hotel. wasn't really gfe nevertheless much better in performance then the canbo gal the day before.

the viets are not shy in bright lights and do bj, unlike many of the canbo chicks. this viet girl was also very pretty but maybe not quite as beautiful as the canbo one. i felt generous and gave her $10 anyway, because she put on a very good performance. nevertheless i appreciated that she was ready to lower the price for a start.


16.
the border crossing town

koh kong
apart from being terribly boring, koh kong is actually quite a nice place. at present there are five farang-bars in town, a solid 5 times growt from the lone bar two years ago. mostly they are empty though. guys, they need your business so go and patronise them. the bars themselves do not employ any fucking meat but company can be easily arranged from the nearby chicken farm. beers are around a buck a can everywhere. good food is a bit scarce to find yet but there is a new thai restaurant opening soon.

accomodation:
plenty of cheap hotels in town $5-10-15 per night for fan or aircon. all within walking distance to the centre of town.
food/drink:
best bet are the restaurants at the larger hotels. usually have menu in english. allso the bars have kitchens. pretty basic fare, you will miss pattaya but will do for a few days.

chicken farm:
at the end of a dirtroad of about a kilometer north of town. usual moto fare 10 baht. just tell the driver "chickenfarm" in english. they will all understand. then tell him to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off. if you negotiate yourself, you come out a lot cheaper. usual price for foreigner 150-160 baht st (about $4/one hour). or b4-500 overnight. you better take away as the rooms on site are as grotty as it gets.( although it can be a thrill once, just to experience it!) moto price for two people (you and the meat) is b20.

as you ride there, don't stop at the first two houses on your right. just ride all the way to the end of the road. you will have much larger selection there. also, lots of moto to take you back. the meat is good. sometimes a few very beautiful girls too but mostly cute little monkeys. i found that nowadays they are getting more friendly towards foreigners as the numbers of visitors are increasing. at the end of the fuck she might hold her hand for some tip. just a dollar or so will be enough.

i recommend that you go to koh kong for a fuck because it's good. there is not much else to see or do but if you are into that then no problems. there is also a disco on your left as you ride to the farm. i found everyone very friendly there (no doubt this will change, as everything good must end). also lots of girls. drinks are around $1.

language:
will get by fine with english but even better with thai. the locals use some strange language which is quite incomprehensible.

internet:
at moment expensive, around 3b/min. several places around the market.

money changing:
if you have baht, you can use it in koh kong. but if you go on to sihanouk then you will need to change to usd or riel. many changers around the market. the market is right in the center of town (as usual).


17.
shihanoukville, the beach resort (of some sorts)

where to find meat:
1.chicken farm at phoum thmey village: near the koh kong ferry. long way to go at night.$3-10/pop. rotten basic rooms on site. better take-away.

2.brothel street and blue mountain brothels are closeset to town, just behing the main road. $5-10/pop.reasonable rooms, mostly with bathroom. (see separate posting)

3. omui street sidestreets 1, 2 and 3 (they would be called sois in thailand). about same cost as above. also okay rooms.
4. also several massage parlours around town. $10-20 all incl.
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18.
sihanoukville: -where to fuck meat?-
1.chicken farm at phoum thmey village: near the koh kong ferry. long way to go at night.$3-10/pop. rotten basic rooms on site. better take-away.

2.blue mountain brothels are closest to town, just behing the main street. $5-10/pop.reasonable rooms.

3. omui street sidestreets 1, 2 and 3 (they would be called sois in thailand). about same cost as above. also okay rooms.

4. also several massage parlours in town. $10-20 all incl.


20.
where is the woman in the picture?
siem reap is plastered full of posters like this one, deprived western hos chasing their even more deprived husbands and other fellow countrymen. see included foto.

the point i am trying to make is: where is the woman in the picture? or are they the good ones? this -and many similar- advertising squarely targets men. it is sexist, degrading. i am not endorsing illegal activities however what i see is that this subject has been made into a political issue against all males.

seems the real reason being: to divide and rule. to turn man against man, while diverting the attention from the growing influence women have over world affairs, and the growing purposeful deprivation of men.

how about tackling the problems one by one. first the most important: to do away the dominating female rule. then talk with the kidfuckers. however it seems that tackling the first problem would automatically end the second problem too. anyone else getting the point?
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(by the way, after posting this report, i did some search for some feminist shit on the net. there is in fact quite a lot of info re. same. just search for "anti feminism". seems that there is a growing concern about women's rule worldwide.)

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Naughty
08-15-05, 15:39
About Angkor Wat.

Is it really worth seeing it? Is it worth the trouble and the cost?

Not really. It's $23 for a day's permit plus $8 for transport. To be honest if you have seen Sukhotai then you have seen all ruins in the world. At Sukhotai you only pay $1 entrance fee if I remember well. Plus hire a bicycle for another $1.

20I've been to both places several times. To say that Sukhothai is the equal of the Angkor complex is pretty much like saying the church down on the corner is equal to the Sistine Chapel.

The stone carving at the temples of Siam Reap is beyond compare and if you have a chance to see it and don't you are a fool.

Alex obviously does not appreciate the stupefyingly enormous amount of labor and the otherwordly skill that went into the creation of the wonders at Angkor. His loss.

Frank Africa
08-15-05, 18:48
Alexander, I am overwhelmed by your recent posts. But a few points to mention:


I've been to both places several times. To say that Sukhothai is the equal of the Angkor complex is pretty much like saying the church down on the corner is equal to the Sistine Chapel.

The stone carving at the temples of Siam Reap is beyond compare and if you have a chance to see it and don't you are a fool.

Alex obviously does not appreciate the stupefyingly enormous amount of labor and the otherwordly skill that went into the creation of the wonders at Angkor. His loss.
Naughty is right. The Angkor Wat complex is truly one of the great wonders of the world, and well worth the effort to get there.


I give her $1 tip and leave. Used to give them $2 but that's too much. Really must take care not to spoil them. We are all responsible for their future. Let them stay simple, live simple, live happy.
??? Seems arrogant and/or condescending of Alexander, if you ask me.

I'm puzzled. While I also get mad when a Western monger goes and gives a girl in a developing country an outrageous amount such as US $100, I disagree with Alexander's comments concerning the tall young lovely in section 10 of his longer post. Giving her $2 instead of $1 is not going to spoil her!

Fast Eddie 48
08-15-05, 22:10
I agree with Frank Africa. Angkor Wat is the top ten wonder of the world. It
is a main reason to go to Cambodia. The boat trip from Phnom Penh to Siem
Riep across the Tonle Sap is great. Girl is cheap, but is the worth spending all
the money travel to Cambodia just for that. If you want girl, China and Thailand
is so much better much more to do. Just my own opinon.

Fast Eddie 48

Member #2041
08-16-05, 07:30
It's silly to travel from Thailand to Cambodia JUST to get $10 girls instead of 1000 Baht girls - that's a savings of just $15 per fuck.

THE reason to go to Cambodia is to see the Temples at Angkor. It's certainly on a par with the greatest Roman Ruins, the Pyramids, the Mayan Cities. And while you are there, go fuck the hotties for $10.

And don't feel too bad about paying $20-$40 for a day at Angkor. It's the ONLY reason that foreign money is coming into the country at all. And, IMHO, it's the least we can do after turning their country into a wasteland that was ripe for the Khmer Rouge terror.

Fast Eddie 48
08-16-05, 23:03
It's silly to travel from Thailand to Cambodia JUST to get $10 girls instead of 1000 Baht girls - that's a savings of just $15 per fuck.

THE reason to go to Cambodia is to see the Temples at Angkor. It's certainly on a par with the greatest Roman Ruins, the Pyramids, the Mayan Cities. And while you are there, go fuck the hotties for $10.

And don't feel too bad about paying $20-$40 for a day at Angkor. It's the ONLY reason that foreign money is coming into the country at all. And, IMHO, it's the least we can do after turning their country into a wasteland that was ripe for the Khmer Rouge terror.Mem # 2041,

Also don't forget about the $ 20.00 visa cam goverment charge to visit if you are a US citizen and the airport dep tax $ 28.00 usd, I hope the cam goverment use the tourist dollar to improve their country and help their own people, not like the philippine government don't give a dawn about their own people.cambodia need to improve the highway and bulid more resort to bring in more tourist, this is a beautiful country that need more development.

Fast eddie 48

Jbecker
08-22-05, 04:06
Hi fellow mongers,

My Cambodia journey is closing so I would like to ask whether you have any contact information (phone number, email account etc) for recommended driver both in Phnom Penh and Siem Reap.

I noticed one in the classified section but the remark was pretty old.

So please share your information.

Thank you in advance.

JB

Ljohnson
08-22-05, 21:33
Jbecker,

I was in Cambodia last month and I again used the services of Neak Yorn. His information is in the Classifieds under Asia/Cambodia. It's the same info you referred to as "old" but the information should be current.

I was again pleased with his services. See my Cambodia story which I posted in the Phnom Penh section earlier this month.

LJohnson

Nytol
08-23-05, 10:52
Dear All,

First, thank you to everyone for the informative posts which I've spent the past couple days (and still am) scanning for info.

I will be taking my first trip to PP shortly, I have been booked into the Himawari Hotel and wonder if anyone knows if it is girl friendly, as I did not see any mention of this hotel in my search.

Also, though I will be there a few days, my schedule is very tight, and I wonder if any could advise me as to the best course of action--whether to call up a driver such as Yorn to take me to a place in the evening, or to arrange for an overnight visit to my hotel room.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Nytol

Asia Rocks
08-23-05, 16:15
Dude,

Please refer to the extensive report by Alexander below. I have never failed to find quality latter evening entertainment at either Sharkey's or Martini's and all hotels in PP are GF.

Enjoy, AR


Dear All,

First, thank you to everyone for the informative posts which I've spent the past couple days (and still am) scanning for info.

I will be taking my first trip to PP shortly, I have been booked into the Himawari Hotel and wonder if anyone knows if it is girl friendly, as I did not see any mention of this hotel in my search.

Also, though I will be there a few days, my schedule is very tight, and I wonder if any could advise me as to the best course of action--whether to call up a driver such as Yorn to take me to a place in the evening, or to arrange for an overnight visit to my hotel room.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Nytol

Fast Eddie 48
08-23-05, 22:40
Dear All,

First, thank you to everyone for the informative posts which I've spent the past couple days (and still am) scanning for info.

I will be taking my first trip to PP shortly, I have been booked into the Himawari Hotel and wonder if anyone knows if it is girl friendly, as I did not see any mention of this hotel in my search.

Also, though I will be there a few days, my schedule is very tight, and I wonder if any could advise me as to the best course of action--whether to call up a driver such as Yorn to take me to a place in the evening, or to arrange for an overnight visit to my hotel room.

Thanks in advance for any help.

NytolTo Nytol,

As far as I know all hotel and motel is girl friendly, even the Intercontinental, one of the 4 star place. There is not much reason to go to Phenom Penh for except for monging , you should get a good hotel for $ 15-$20.00 us a nite. Never heard of this hotel either. You can alway look for a another hotel near Central Market area. You can get a driver on a moto for us $ 6.00 a day.

Fast eddie 48

Ljohnson
08-24-05, 02:03
Nytol,

You can have both. Yorn can take you to a club, or a lady house. At a club you can find a girl a bring her to your room; for short time or for the night. Note: A lot of these girls will make a deal with you for Long Time and then still leave after the first pop. This has happened to me once in Cambodia and once in Thailand. I never pushed it. What are you gonna do? Insist she stay when she doesn't want to? I don't think so.

Or you can go to a "lady house" (Yorn knows several) and have a girl (or two) short time on premises or short time in your room. Or LT, you decide.

I'm not sure what you mean about "arranging for a girl" to come to your room. I wanna be the one to select the girl every time.

Suggestion: If you use Yorn's services, ask him to take you to Golden Boss or some other Cambodian club. It's quite an experience.

Enjoy.

LJohnson

Nytol
08-24-05, 11:48
Ljohnson, Fast Eddie 48, Asia Rocks,

Thanks much for the info. The booking has already been made at the Himawari Hotel Apartments, so I will leave it for now. However, have decided to extend my stay by a night moving to the Flamingos hotel, and will employ Yorn's services as a guide for the last night, time permitting.

Thanks once again to all, and will post a report when I return, should anything worth reporting happen.

Nytol

Buds66
08-26-05, 14:34
Friends,

I have a totally bisex russian GF, and we project to have a travel in SE Asia, but for visa problems we can't go to Philippines or Thailand. So I read about PP and I ask to the expert about the cambo girls attitude for the western girls: are they active in threesome or shy? Do they make massages with happy end for girls too?

Thanks for the answers and thanks for the very informative forum!

Buds66
08-26-05, 15:05
Friends,

I have a totally bisex russian girlfriend, and we are planning a travel in SE Asia for our pleasure. There are a lot of documents to do for visa to Philippines and Thailand, so we think about Cambodia. I ask if in PP the cambo girls are friendly to have sex with western girls: they are shy for threesome or not? And they make massages with happy ending for girls too?

Thanks for the answers, and thanks for the very informative forum!

Fast Eddie 48
08-26-05, 21:26
Friends,

I have a totally bisex russian girlfriend, and we are planning a travel in SE Asia for our pleasure. There are a lot of documents to do for visa to Philippines and Thailand, so we think about Cambodia. I ask if in PP the cambo girls are friendly to have sex with western girls: they are shy for threesome or not? And they make massages with happy ending for girls too?

Thanks for the answers, and thanks for the very informative forum!Hey buds66,

I am sure if price is right. Most girl will do it. The girl in Martini that I picked up will do just about anything I ask them to. Not sure about visa for Russian citizen. I paid $ 25.00 USD at the PP airport as an US citizen. Thailand and Philippines is free for 30 days stay for US citizen.

Fast Eddie 48

Romeo Blue
08-26-05, 22:33
Generally the girls do everything for money.
i was once with my ex GF in PP and we found a nice girl who like bisex.
We both enjoyed it a lot.

Shamas
08-27-05, 05:09
They don't call it P4P for nothing :-). I suggest the Flamingos Hotel and talk with the manager, he's a great older guy and can help guide you. Across from the hotel's front doors is Shangi Bar, #1 talent pool in town. Go to Canby publications, tales of asia and Khmer 440 for more news on PP.

Shamas O'Dognasty
Gorumet Catering and
Septic Tank Cleaning

Member #3401
08-27-05, 07:23
You luckey bastard Budds66!Q!!!!

Buds66
08-27-05, 13:26
Thanks for the answers, guys :-)))

Shamas, Flamingos is totally girl friendly without over-price? I read their web-site, and I think it is very beautiful, if they admit other girls without problems. My choice is beetween this one and Sakura. Is it a good choice in experts opinion?

Khmer Lover
08-27-05, 15:21
I think you are kidding yourself if you think the gov't in Cambo will do anything but steal the money from Visa's and Anghkor. The roads are purposely kept horrible esp. Poipet-Siem Riep so that tourists almost have to fly where bribes (from airlines, etc.) are easier to obtain.

But it a great country! I've been there many times and going back!

Shamas
08-28-05, 03:27
I visited Sakuru Hotel, it was quite nice. One guy said he gets a suite for $30 a night, that includes a nightly visit from one of the massage girls. I picked a petite massage girl from the front desk area, she was cute but I had to argue/bargain with her to get her price down to realistic levels.

I stayed at Flamingos for about a week, it was clean, comfortable, well located and exceptionally friendly. I got a bbbj at the roof top bar while waiting for the maid to clean my room.

Both places are very good.

Wonder if you can rent a couch for the night at Sophie's :-).

Shamas O'Dognasty
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Qualo
08-28-05, 08:53
Does anyone know the location of Sakura?

Is it close to Flamingos?

Shamas
08-29-05, 03:12
Got to BKK on JAL, arrived at 815pm. The flight was about 60% full, helped my big ole ass having extra room to stretch out.

I was really tired, didn't have a comfirmed reservation at a hotel so I stopped at a place in the airport and confirmed at the Somerset on Suk soi 15, just past the Manhattan. It's a really nice place but not really GFriendly. The sign says 500Bt per guest. The bellboy asked if I wanted a massage, I decided to take him up on it. Got a much needed shower and right on time a very pretty Thai lady showed up. I got the 2hr oily massage for 800Bt, excellent to say the least. She offered FS but wanted 2K Bt for that, lol, no way. Got a bbbj for 500 Bt which was excellent.

Jet lag sorta jumped on me today, I fel like death warmed over when I got up. Got in a nap and feel pretty good now. Took a different girl from the same inhouse MP, she was a bit more hard core and was set on her price. Passed her up, I'll be heading up to Annie's to see if my favorite #6 is working.

Did I mention it's hot and hell, just rained so now it humid also.

I did make 1 little boo boo, for lunch, got a dish called spicy. Yo mama it B HOT. I found these red peppers, I call them the devils horns, oh so pharking hot.

Got to go, supposed to meet a guy at the Nana Hotel.

Shamas
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Shamas
08-29-05, 03:15
I don't remember the exact address, it wasn't far from Flamingos, matter of fact Flamingos was in a great location, a few minutes from most of the action.

Shamas

Shamas
08-29-05, 03:23
Who let the Dog Out, bark, bark, barkbark

Saturday I met up with Dumbo who is a very nice guy, thanks to him for helping out with my questions.

Flew in to Phonm Penh on Sunday on BKK air. I'm impressed with BKK air, excellent plane, staff and right on time. The flight was pretty calm for all things considered and the in processing at PP airport was swift and painless.

I had sent an email to one of the "Tour Agents"that advertises on a SEA board, he was a no show. Got a regular cab and I'm now at the New York Hotel. I can't say how the hotel compares with others, but I'm satisfied.

Since I'm still jet lagged I laid down jsut after arrival and took a short nap, well missed that one, I snoozed for 4 hours, got up it was dark and late. I looked and could not find my phone number that Acatman had given me so I got on the PCs in the hotel lobby, could not access my SEA board, started to worry that I would have to get a cabbie that I didn't know or trust. I finally located one of our tour guides and he came by just after 9pm. He took me to a nice Khmer resturant along the river, food was excellent and the staff was a gas. They clapped and carried on when I came in, made me wonder why they were so thrilled that I had shown up. Well during the meal I was beset by a bevy of young beauties who assaulted me with kindness and massaged away every upper body ache and pain I had. Problem was I was eating, but what the fudge, I can eat and drool at the same time.

After dinner the first place we hit was DV8. IMHO a hole in the wall, but not a bad hole in the wall. First girl who came over Phan she is too pretty and very sweet. Half a drink later we agreed on her coming to my hotel for $10. Got to the room, she helped me finish unpacking, we were also waiting for the AC to catch up. A nice cold shower and I was ready, she cleaned up. The girl was so pretty, excellent body, cute face and so sweet. Half way through our session someone calls, I'm hunching on her and she's chatting on the phone, she got the message that the phone had to go.

She has only been working for 3 days and it showed. She knew how to hunch but that was it, it took a few hours of work to get her to suck D*ck and nipple nuzzle correctly. I do love teaching . We also got in a little basketball action, showed her how to rim .

1st impressions of PP, poored than I expected, dirtier than I expected but when you consider what they have been through it's no big surprise.

Women - some very pretty women, more so than Thailand.

Todays plan, I'm going to get the inhouse massage, I saw the hand rubbing maiden yesterday evening, she's a sharp honey.

Got to go, more to do, more to do

Shamas O'Dognasty
Gourmet Catering &
Septic Tank Cleaning

Shamas
08-29-05, 03:27
I went to Sophies last night, it's a dingy, old, dirty, worn out second floor version of the Park Hotel (Park Hotel in San Jose Costa Rica, a noted den of wild life and even wilder women). Best discribed as a blow job bar with no other reason to exist.

I thought it would be best to hit Sophies around 9pm at the earliest, my driver said 730pm was just as good if not better, I took his word.

We got there around 745pm climped the long, dirty and worn stairs to the second floor (on a 3rd floor level) and the doors were locked, we knocked and rattled, no response, not good. Finally a girl opened the doors and let us in. There were two other guys in the place and a pack of wolves waiting to pounce on some fresh meat.

The wolf pack jumped on me like pit bulls on a mailman. There were 7 or 8 girls all pressed against me, all flapping their lips, all yaking, pointing, talking and wanting me to go in one direction or the other. Not my style. I told them twice to give me some room, it just didn't register. Finally I pushed back (very gently) and spoke slowly and softly, "Get back, give me some room please". One gal who fancied herself the alpha ***** of the pack stayed right in my face which bothered me as I do not put up with the hard sell technique. She kept up with "me #1 yum yum, you take me, yata yata yata". She litterly stayed within a few inches of my nose, I finally got her to back off and I spied a pretty gal in the back ground. I opted for her and started to argue price. Alpha ***** kept yakking $15, I counted with $10 per girl and wanted 2 girls. It took a few tries to get the message across that I was going to pay $10 per girl not $10 total.

Well Ms Congineality aka Alpha ***** was right back in front of me, "you take me, you take me, me #1 yum yum" no way she had already turned me off, I'd take a guy before I'd took her. I got the pack to back off and asked my choice who was here friend, who did she want me to take, she grabbed another pretty thing who was most agreeable to me, we were off to the room.

Since I'm a lover of Air Conditioning and it's hotter than hell right now, the first thing I had the girls do was turn on the room fan. We took a shower (caught the Alpha ***** looking in the shower room a few times). I got the girls to play a wee bit in the shower but they just wouldn't get really down and exciting in there.

Back to the room, bbbjs from both. Both were smallish and had very nice tits, but I had to teach them a few gentle moves. The gal I first selected was scratching my nutt sack like she was mining for gold. Girl it just don't work like that. I showed her how to gently tickle the hairs and very lightly touch. Practice made perfect.

We boom boom for little while with second girl, then the gold miner pulled off the rain coat and started back with bbbj. She grabbed my pecker and litterly tried to jerk me off. Another teaching lession on how to apply TLC to a throbing and erect pecker. She grabbed so hard it hurt and that's saying something.

Well she sucked on mini mi and gently tickled and rubbed the hairs on my nutt sack, her friend worked on my nipples more aggresively and I played with firm and great B tits. Finally my pecker puked, the gold miner stuck to the suck till I was was done ( sorta helped her with that part, kept my hand on the back of her head .

All in all I give Sophies a 50 - 50 rating. The two girls I had were very nice and willing to learn. The high pressure technique of the alpha ***** detracted from my night. It's hard to say what most of the girls looked like, Ms A was not that pretty but she stayed on center stage. The first girl I selected was tall for the pack and I thought she was quite nice looking. Her friend was shorter but just as pretty, both were very nice and sweet.

After Sophies we hit Matinis. Too dark, but I've been in darker places. Four girls sat down at my table within a few seconds of me sitting down, no way with any of them, the best was a 5 the others were 4s. Did see on very pretty thing, dressed nicely and strutting her stuff, but I didn't have it in me to try a second pop for the night. Finished off my beer and came on home.

Well I got to go, it's breakfast time, I'll report some more.
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Shamas
08-29-05, 03:31
Sophies may not be worse than the Park, it all depends on your perspective.

The marble steps have not been cleaned since the last drunk fell down them. The ornate wood hand rail was sticky to the touch. The front door to Sophies it's self is typical narrow French colonial design, two doors, not was wide as one of ours.

The girl selection was pretty good, lots of pretty local girls and Viets, some 4s & 5 (aka my Alpha *****), many 7s & 8s (the two I took).

I've just learned from my Cambo board that I screwed up, I should have let all of the girls audition for the position of Ms Shamas Suck O'*****. I would have been there for a few hours just deciding who would be my star for the evening.

One thing the Park (Pdark Hotel in San Jose Costa Rica) & Sophies has in common, you can get bbbj at the bar. The big difference is seating. Sophies seating suxs !!!, the couch and upolstered seats sit about a foot off the floor, the bar stools are made to Wilt Chamberland at the least, they sit 5'up with no bar rail to help get the ole donkey up there.

Sophies is much like the Park, it has a loyal following, it's off beat and not the type of place that would impress the yuppie crowd. For me, I can learn to enjoy it.

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Today I'm going MP hunting. I'll report on them tonight

The Barking Dog

Shamas
08-29-05, 03:37
For those who think the driving in Latin America, New York, Chicago, LA or bum phuck Egypt is bad, for those who think driving is bad in Thailand, for those who think driving is bad in Greece - don't never ever come to Cambodia .

There is no method to the madness, it's the herd mentality at it's worst.

White lines mean nothing, a six lane road (3 in either direction) will have five cars abreast in each direction at a traffic light and traffic lights are few and mostly misunderstood.

There are way more motorbikes than 4 wheelers, lots of horse drawn carts, three wheel bikes and more motorscooters. I saw 4 adults on a 100cc bike today.

I just got back from having dinner at the pussycat bar, the food was very good, the barmaids were very pretty.

We then went to Shanghi Bar - Way too many pretty pretty girls. But like all women they yaked and yaked adn yaked. I asked if they could suck D*ck and not talk, no we can yumyum and talk at same time

I had the in house massage today, it was real good. Especially the bbbj that ended it.

Each floor has a maid and the maid sleeps in a side room so she can monitor the floor. The elevator has to be activated by someone with a room key so there are no uninvited guests or theives. I've noticed closed circuit cameras also. Hopfully this will keep the theives away.

Got to go

The Dog Barks
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Shamas
08-29-05, 03:42
Driving here is another world and that's being kind. Thousands of small motor bikes, all weaving and wondering, ducking and dodging, excaping and evading and mostly meandering about with no true purpose or reason.

From my short time here I take it the rules of the road are

We don't need no stinking white lines, mainly because they mean absolutely nothing to anybody.

Everyone just goes slow, except a few of the gringos who have rented bikes and zoom about.

By going slow everyone just goes their own way, trying their best to keep moving. Looks like the worst sin on the road is to actually stop. They just keep going and going till it sorta works it's own self out.

There are a few stop lights, lol lol lol lol, what a mess, all the bikes jam up together and the 4 wheelers all get in the rest of the areas, when the light changes the bikes all weave and bob about, the cars will go any of too many directions and with the grace of Buddha it all works out.

Most of the intersections are totally unregulated, no stop signs, like it would make any difference, no yields lolololol. It's just who's in front, who's bigger, who's honked the most and who's flashing their lights the most. The herd mentallity at it's finest.

If you're not already right with God when you get here, it's too late to start

Shamas O'Dognasty

Shamas
08-29-05, 03:49
Well I've learned a few things about MPs, if it's advertised at in room massage, ain't much rub to it, all boom boom & yum yum. At $4 to $5 for the rub and $10 to $20 for the boom boom yum yum it's a good deal.

They have some really dingy garage operations and some places that I wouldn't hike my leg and scent on.

Went to the Sukuru Hotel last night. One guy said he actually stayed there once. It's a nice sized hotel that looks like nothing more than a huge MP. When I strolled in the mamasan asked me if I wanted a massage. Sure nuff. There was a cute little vixen sitting by the counter, I asked how old she was, told she was 19 yo. My driver came in a minute later, I had him check her ID, he guaranteed me she was legit and 19. Let me tell you, this little minx was 4'and a few inches, cut as can be, great body with no extra milage nor any skin flaws at all. She had C cup tits that were still very fim and knew their place on the upper areas of the chest, no sag at all.

$5 for the massage, she wanted $20 for FS + $5 to take her top off. I told her she was nuts and to just give me the massage. Well she pouted a wee bit and acted like she wasn't going to do more than give a lousy light rub. Informed her I was going to see mamasan and pitch a *****, she got with the program. Well into the rub I got her to $10 with total undress for yum yum & boom boom. I stuck with the yum yum.

Next we hit Great World MP. This must be the big dog house in town, it was packed with asian dudes. I spied a few hot ones but decided to hunt on.

Next we hit the Navy Club. Nice selection of girls. I talked with the mamasan and told her want I expected, she guaranteed me she had the right girls who will work hard and make me shark and quiver for $10 tip.

Got back to the hotel and decided to check out the in room massage. Took a few minutes and a pretty gal showed up, real nice build and quite tall. The rub was good and she wanted to start a hj, Don't think so, told her I was paying for an hour and expected an hour. A ways into the massage she started with HJ, told her yum yum or be gone, she gobbled and suxed

Got through, she asked for $40 tip, I laughed and told her she was crazy (in quazy French/Cambodian). She left with a $10 tip and was still bitching, I'm heart broken.

Well got to go, the suns up, it's getting hot and I'm going to explore the new neighborhood.

Shamas
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Shamas
08-29-05, 03:54
Like most places Sunday is a traditional day off for most workers, thusly so the streets are crowded with thousands and thousands of motor scooters, cars and cyclos, and not one of them has a lick of driving sense. I just about turned to intoxicants to help me with the driving but I learned to close my eyes and ignore the noises.

For lunch I went to a British place called the Rising Sun, it's just off the river front drive, the food and staff were both excellent.

Next we went to the Souyz (sp?) shopping mall. It's 6 floors of small shops with one really big grocery store at ground level. Nice AC keeps the place cool and livable for me.

I decided to have dinner at the Green Vespa, don't ask why, it was purely on a whim and fancy. Turned out to be an excellent choice, very good food, pretty girl to chat with and the owner and his amigo stopped by and talked for a few minutes. So far they have had the best western food yet.

Decided to take the advice I got on a SEA board the other day and hit Rose Bar and Zanzibar. They are just a few seconds walk from the Green Vespa, made it too nice.

Hit the Zanzibar first, very nice place, had some pretty gals. Had a bottle of H2O and decided to see what Rose was all about.

Rose Bar had more girls and one behind the bar was as pretty as I've seen in this town. She's tallish, cute and has a great body 9.8 on the erect pecker meter.

BUT, I decided to go back to Z-bar and grab up this one gal there. Name of Madra or something close to that. Main reason I liked her was because she has some mileage. A bit plump, cute face and an excellent attitude. We bickered price, I laughed a few times and got her to agree to $15 for LT.

Turned out to be an excellent choice. She's been around the block a few times and knew where to go and what to flick to get me going. No coaching and coaxing needed, just a few oooos and ahhhs was all she needed to know she was on the right spot.

We played in the shower which I do truly love, played in the shower some more and some more. Her bbbj technique was numero uno. Matter of fact I had her to stop a few times just so we could start all over again. I give her my highest ranking for performance and as good of an attitude as any yet.
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Shamas
08-29-05, 03:55
Yesterday I went out and hit the Russian Market. It's just a mini version of the Central Market which makes the main market in SJO look like a closet. These places are tooooo wild, I can not put it in words.

The Russian Market has just about everything you could want. You can find ancient artifacts for sale, present day AK accessories, you name it.

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I wanted a non sexual massage so we found a little place that a SEA board member had mentioned. A Big ole Chinese gal hauled my ass up the steepest and narrowest steps I've seen yet and worked me over. She is strong as an Ox, quite nice and very skilled in the arts of massage.

At $7 for over an hour it was an excellent deal.

We hit a P4P MP later, don't remember the name, it was close to the hotel New York. Pretty Viet girl plied her trade on me for $5 hr + $10 for extra.

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I ate at a little resturant called Del Gusto which is on a very small dirt road next to Matinis bar. Great food at a great price.
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Well I'm heading back to Thailand this afternoon, I'm supposed to have a car pick me up at the airport and take me to Pattaya for my last three nights.

Life IS Good

Shamas O'Dognasty.
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Shamas
08-29-05, 03:58
I flew into BKK midafternoon flight from PP on BKK airlines. It's a great way to fly, every aspect of the airline is top notch. They even have their own lounge at the PP airport, it's as good as any VIP lounge going.

I took a cab from the airport to Pattaya, got to Sabai Lodge just after dark, checked in with no problems. Took a shower and walked from soi 2 to soi 13 - TOO PHARKING FAR for me. I grabbed Phen who works in a little place on soi 13. I didn't waste any time at all, she was all agog that I had come back to see her. I told her to get her bag and lets hit the trail. She had to do the finger in hole ritural with all of the girls before she could go, , finally got her moving.

I forgot my room number but the desk crew had my key out before I got to them. In the room, in the shower, on the bed, in her mouth, in her back door, in her mouth (using a wrapper guys) again after stripping off the raincoat, to and fro front door and titty hunching. Geeze I'm too old for this stuff. Well I'm not that much too old, she almost is, I about wore the gal out.

About 2am I got a second V rush, hunched and humped but just didn't have a good pop left so after a hour I let go and showered. About 9am I got my 3rd V rush, got to pop, got her cleaned up and on her way home. I now have her phone # so I can call and get home delivery.

Been out doing some shopping today, prices have gone way up so I haven't brought much.

Got to go, times getting short and I have to met some guys down on Walking Street.

Just finished a nice long wrap up to my trip and it got lost in cyberhell.

I went down to Walking Streed and hooked up Isee and his buddie at Diamond A go go. We oogled the girls there and they do have some pretty ones to oogle. They have some nice speciality shows, one like the Water Buffalo show, another SM (fake but loud).

After a while we headed out and hit some more go gos. I ended up heading back to the soi 2 area and hit Sabai Dee MP. I picked a cute and busty gal, she picked her friend who wasn't too busty but a real sweetheart. The two of them worked really well together, very good massage followed up with a rimming & bbbjcim.

On the way back to the hotel I saw the guy with his elephant going around selling fruit to the guys who would feed the elephant. Neat elephant.

The next day I hit some of the bars on soi 6 & 7 during the early afternoon. One place on soi 6 had a couple of good looking girls working, one started to play with me and we ended up on the couch in the back of the bar. She asked me to go up to a room, I told her I wanted a bj on the couch. They closed the front door and I got my bj.

That night I called my soi 13 gal, she couldn't make it so I headed up to the beer bars on 2nd road. Grabbed one young gal for ST, she worked hard and furious for her money.

Friday afternoon I headed to BKK, got a room at the Leela Inn for 1000Bt, was offered an in room massage which I took. A nice girl showed up, got down to business with a great massage. I thought this was going to be the first non sexual in room massage of the trip, nope she got serious after giving a long and excellent rub. She asked for $70 for body to body oily, I laughed and told her to go home. She started working real hard on making me hard, that wasn't going to get me to pay, I asked for free she kept coming down, finally agreed on $25. We did the oily oily slip and slide, I got off between her tits.

I'm back home now and trying to get used to the total switch in day & night, I'm too old for thi
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Shamas
08-29-05, 04:15
my personal pet peeve is the us government wants to phuck up cambodia and turn it into a sex guilt hide in the dark typical southern religious attitude type of place. us senator mitch mcconnell (ky) offered the cambodians an extra 20 million in aide if they would get rid of the present pm. mitch doesn't like the guy because he won't outlaw prostitution or reform in a us manner.

well i'm from the south and well know a common term for the vast majority of the southern religious leaders "sundowners". as long as the sun's up they got religion, when the sun goes down so do they. next day they are guilt ridden and bad mouthing everyone for every minor item, till the sun goes down again.

cambodia also has ngos aplenty. for those who don't know, they are civilian workers who stick their noses into cambodian life and try to enforce us religious policy and are partially supported by the office for faith based inititive. they're easy to spot, big white suv & pus.

ngos are a scurge, again a group of sundowners who don't practice what they preach. it's a do as i say, not as i do attitude.

nuff of that stuff

cambodia is very interesting to say the least, great people who are very nice and poor as can be. considering what pol pot did to the place it's a tribute to everyone that they have recovered like they have.

the women are very pretty ! the bar sceen in pp is limited compared to bkk and pattaya but it is a great scene. i liked the pp bars better than los places.

resturants were very good. we hit one expensive place, all the others were very cost effective, very good and will get return visits. one place by the wat pp, d'umvill or something like that, i'll look it up and post the name was great. one waitress was a solid 10, from head to toe, front to back she was a beauty.

hotels, i started off at the hotel new york. nice place. i moved to flamingos half way through, enjoyed it more for many reasons. flamingos is located better and is less expensive. the manager is much more helpful and the staff was nicer. new york is a very good hotel, flamingos is just better.

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Buko Max
08-29-05, 10:23
Shamas you dog,

Thank you for the series of field reports. Very informative. You have again peaked my interest in PP and environs. I will try to get there before the year is out to test my driving skills!

Excelsior!

Qualo
08-29-05, 13:33
Thanks for the reports Shamas.

Outstanding stuff!

Shadow6491
09-12-05, 09:12
whats your point sovan.

that we should be carefull of girls ages or what.

ngos raid places all the time and claim the girls are trafficked or ****. its usually all bullshit and hype so they can been seen as doing a good job to get more money from the people back home.

Run Mann
09-12-05, 11:20
I've never heard of that hotel but you've got to wonder why it is still in business if this is the second time it has happen. A sad story but hopefully the perps will get what they deserve.




Cambodian police raid hotel, rescue three girls from sex trade

I've never heard of that hotel but you've got to wonder why is its is still in business if this is the second time it has happen. I

Police are seeking an arrest warrant for the hotel owner, who fled, police said.

Last December, police raided the same hotel and rescued more than 80 alleged sex workers. The women were briefly housed at a women's shelter run by Afesip, a French group helping abused women, but they were later taken from the shelter by two dozen attackers.

Critics, including the U.S State Department, has slammed the Cambodian government for failing to arrest any perpetrators at the time.

Chhai Sinarith said the latest raid of the hotel showed the government's commitment to clamping down on human traffickers seeking to profit from sexual exploitation. (AP)

September 7, 2005

http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/international/news/20050907p2g00m0in032000c.html

Ekspat
09-13-05, 01:09
ngos raid places all the time and claim the girls are trafficked or ****. its usually all bullshit and hype so they can been seen as doing a good job to get more money from the people back home.well said, thats all what they do. wasting taxpayers money, enjoying themselves and once in a while some action to get in the newspaper to justify their presence. simply disgusting.

Luludinky
09-14-05, 03:31
Does anyone know a place called "The Villa"? It supposed to be a hot monger gathering place. Any clue?

Native Humper
09-14-05, 03:43
i have stayed at that hotel three times in the past 10 years. yes there is a fish bowl massage parlor there, but the hotel was no different than any other in cambodia that i stayed at. during my stays there i have never seen an **** girl there.

Mastorr
10-04-05, 18:27
Hi,

I read this hotel is very good, (service/price) and GF. My question is if Flamingo is close to main action, bars, discos.

Also if anybody can compare the non pros / pros between Flamingo and California hotel.

Thanks

Shadow6491
10-05-05, 02:05
Yes it is very close to the action from the rooftop you can look across into the walkabout to see who is there.

Coma Boy
10-05-05, 07:15
I just checked out of there this morning.

Nothing special, but cheap and cheerful. You'd never guess it was relatively new after seeing the rooms; kind of musty and tasteless, yet serve their purpose.

However, it is a perfect location- within a few seconds walk of Walkabout, Shanghai, Butterfly, Heart of Darkness (closed for refurb right now), etcetera. And, only a dollar's drive from FCC, DV8, Martinis, Sweetheart, Sharky, or wherever else.

Mastorr
10-05-05, 11:16
Thank you very much guys.

Any recommendation about a different hotel with the same features like Flamingo?

ChillyMonkey
10-05-05, 22:24
I'm going to Cambodia for the first time next week (arrive in bangkok on Oct. 12 then either straight to PP or spend a few days in Pattaya first) and have been looking into hotels. Trying to decide between Flamingo, California 2 and Sakura, which sound like are the best mongering hotels. Wanted to make sure my hotel is most convenient for mongering, so the Flamingo sounds good. But heard the California 2 has a helpful owner. And the Sakura has a massage place on site, which would be a nice bonus. What are the Cambodian pros opinions?

Found a website ( hostelworld.com ) offering the Sakura for $14 US a night, but I understood it is normally around $30? I have a feeling the website meant to say 14 Euros. Anyway I would rather not book online (unless it's a really good deal) since this time of year it's usually easier to get a good deal by just showing up.

What about locations? Angeles City and Pattaya are nice since everything is centralized and in walking distance. Does it work this way in PP? Now that Svay Pak and Tool Kok have been ruined by all the damned NGO's, I guess there are no more sex markets like this anymore? I heard the NGO's are staking out sex clubs and even taking pictures of the customers. Is it really this bad? Is there anyplace that is similar to the Svay Pak and Tool Kok of old that hasn't been invaded by NGO's (cover your eyes NGO spies!)?

Kens14
10-06-05, 14:10
I stayed at Flamingos in Aug. 05 and was incredibly impressed. IMO the rooms were very good - v.clean, good supply of towels, stocked minibar, quiet AC and cable. The best thing about the hotel is the staff - they are very friendly and helpful. They'll sort out everything for you (they sorted our visas for Vietnam $27 1 day service, a car to the Vietnam border, then another car from border to HCMC for $40). The manager is a really funny & helpful guy, the girls who work on the desk are absolute horns.

It's well located - Walkabout just down the street, although the girls are pretty skanky there. Shanghai opposite has beautiful girls, there's a bar right next door (forget the name) with nice girls, HoD (when open) 1 minutes walk. Then there's always a posse of motodops outside the front door to take you to DV8, Martini's etc - only a few mins ride.

I cannot recommend Flamingos too highly, it's great value and great fun - let's hope not too many find its' particular charms !

Shamas
10-12-05, 06:05
Drive Sovan Mee, I utilized his services for my initial visit to PP a few months ago. He was always on time, professional, an excellent guide and great company.

For any first time visitor, get Sovan Mee to help show you around. His car is in very good condition and considering how the traffic is, having car doors around me helped me relax. The AC is also quite nice.

Shamas O'D

Shamas
10-12-05, 06:13
Hotel Flamingos gets my vote for favorite hotel. They have changed managers but my old amigo is still with the owners.

Very good location, very good staff and very friendly.

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Butt Ugly
10-13-05, 12:51
Kens14,

Can you share the price for a room and address?

QUOTE=Kens14]I stayed at Flamingos in Aug. 05 and was incredibly impressed. IMO the rooms were very good - v.clean, good supply of towels, stocked minibar, quiet AC and cable. The best thing about the hotel is the staff - they are very friendly and helpful. They'll sort out everything for you (they sorted our visas for Vietnam $27 1 day service, a car to the Vietnam border, then another car from border to HCMC for $40). The manager is a really funny & helpful guy, the girls who work on the desk are absolute horns.

It's well located - Walkabout just down the street, although the girls are pretty skanky there. Shanghai opposite has beautiful girls, there's a bar right next door (forget the name) with nice girls, HoD (when open) 1 minutes walk. Then there's always a posse of motodops outside the front door to take you to DV8, Martini's etc - only a few mins ride.

I cannot recommend Flamingos too highly, it's great value and great fun - let's hope not too many find its' particular charms ![/QUOTE]

Masked Avenge
10-13-05, 14:14
I want to try to visit Cambodia in November. Can anyone give me some tips. I will either come from Singapore on or about Nov.12 or from Saigon around Nov.17. I want to know about airlines and prices. I will probably stay in PP for a night then go to Siem Reap then on to Bangkok. Any tips would be greatly appreciated. I think I can gather all the "other" tips from the forum WOOHOO!

Fast Eddie 48
10-13-05, 21:58
I want to try to visit Cambodia in November. Can anyone give me some tips. I will either come from Singapore on or about Nov.12 or from Saigon around Nov.17. I want to know about airlines and prices. I will probably stay in PP for a night then go to Siem Reap then on to Bangkok. Any tips would be greatly appreciated. I think I can gather all the "other" tips from the forum WOOHOO!


to masked avenge

air asia have the lowest cost , online fare round trip is $ 80.00 usd but
only to and from kl or bangkok only . they donn't fly to siem reap also

fast eddie 48

Shamas
10-14-05, 04:51
Butt Ugly

Flamingos rooms are $20, $25 & $30 a night.

It's right across the street from Shanghi Bar and Walkabout. They have a web site for the exact address.

Flamingos is well located for adult entertainment. So many of the really good places are no more than 5 minutes away.

Go to Sophies, 7pm is not to early - dress accordingly - sandles, baggy shorts with no underpants and a loose tshirt.

Masked Avenger

Getting to PP from HCMC (siagon of old days) you might want to consider a bus, it's not that far of a ride.

Look at Canby publicantion, khmer 44o and Tales of Asia. All three have excellent info on travel into/out and internal Cambodian travel.

Shamas O'D

Kens14
10-16-05, 14:40
Hi,

A report on my second visit to PP.

I thoroughly enjoyed my first visit to PP a couple of months ago and vowed to get back ASAP - this visit was only better. First up, I stayed at Flamingos both times. I don't have the time, motivation, or energy to find and compare Flamingo's with other places at the moment - if you want a clean room, v.acessible action, safety & security assured all for a very reasonable price then this is place for you. The best thing about the place is the staff - helpful, polite, trustworthy and v.friendly (some of the female bar staff are maybe a little too friendly - hey guy's !). In later visits I may investigate other options, but if I go too much upmarket I fear I will lose that companionship & treasure trove of info gleaned from mixing with fellow like minded fellows.

Now, I am sure that the p4p scene in PP is nowhere near as good as it used to be. However, for a mid '30's man with moderately high standards I think it is absolute heaven on earth ! In abstract economic terms supply of girls is v.high (unlike Vietnam), demand from farangs is relatively low (unlike Thailand) and therefore cost is vv.low. Now factor in comparative purchasing power (if you're from Europe/N.America etc) and prices become unfeasibly low- the price of all night fun becomes less than the first 2 drinks (of many) that you buy that girl in the 'wasteland' in the hope that some day in the distant future she may deign to go to bed with you. 20$ for all night p4p needs to be contextualised here - it takes me about 20 mins after tax to earn that (I know I'm not a high earner), but you get a whole 8hrs of fun for that. You may ask about relative 'in country' earnings. Well, I was told that a basic police officer in Cambodia makes $15 - $20 (before 'allowance's), so I figure that we’re doing a social service (NGO’s should consider us to be real direct ‘bottom-up’ development!).

Now let's turn to matters of quality.., a contentious issue I know. Basically, I believe that maybe we undergo a paradigm shift when we rock up in Asia. IMHO we judge the women in SE Asia by much harsher criteria than we judge the women in the West. Any subjective rating system is going to be highly context specific anyway. I sat with guys in The Walkabout commenting that a particular girl was a 4 or a 5. Yet if it had been 1.30am in a nightclub in the wasteland and we'd been faced with going home alone we'd be rating the same girl as a 7/8 hottie.

What is abundantly clear is that many of these girls suffer from the signs of significant poverty. It's not ugliness, but really the lack of a few good meals, some good night’s sleep and some decent clothes which detracts from their beauty. This is markedly significant to anyone used to practising their trade in Thailand.

However, even though there may not be the overt outstanding beauty found in Thailand I think there is actually so much more real beauty here in Cambodia. Obviously you get the Viet girls and the Viet/Khmer mix – an exquisitely divine mix.

I’m no great marathon stud, and don’t go in for the volume which many write about here, but here’s my rundown:

Day 1.
Takeout a Khmer girl from The Walkabout, beautiful body – great action, no requests refused. After a 2 hour session she says she wants to go out for food and will return in 15mins. No problem, off she pops and swiftly returns with a friend who’d also like to stay the night. The friend had a good body, but a bit of a facial skin condition which could have been related to any range of STI or other related illnesses. I politely declined, gave her $10 and sent them both packing. I was beat and needed to sleep anyway.

Day 2.
Early evening visit to Sophie Club – this place is a real treat, to have 6 cuties around you begging you to do them is a total mind-feck for any man who grew up in the west. Chose one because she had great eyes her name was something like ‘Wanderoo’. Took her to the room, she had a lovely bushy pussy. She gave me one of the best bbbj I have ever had the pleasure to receive. Yum yum doesn’t usually do it for me, but I needed to stop this girl as I wanted to save myself for her pussy – which was amazingly tight considering all the action it must see. All in $19 ($10 for service, $5 tip & $4 for drinks) – yes, I know some will think I overpay, but I look at it in cost-benefit terms as a proportion of my income – this is phenomenal value for money. As for pushing prices up, well I figure that the incomes of these girls relative to other Cambodians is so high that it can only encourage others to enter the trade. With a relatively large willing labour pool, labour costs can only stabilise or even drop. Further, my own spending is fairly insignificant in comparison to the number of chaps enjoying themselves here.

Later that night another takeout from The Walkabout – a Viet/Khmer mix called ‘Phoqnow’ (or at least that what it sounded like). She was a really cutie – creamed up as soon as I touched her, got herself off on my leg whilst I licked her tits and had a pussy tighter than a gnats chaf – stunning. I kept her all night, gave her $20 the next morning and I had a smile and ball ache.

Days 3/4/5.

The guys hanging around the Flamingos recommend a girl who hangs around the hotel. I take her to the room and I was incredibly impressed. She’s got a great body, but her most salient quality is enthusiasm and PMA (Positive Mental Attitude) – she had the McDonalds 5 stars for customer services – really enjoyed her job ! Such an approach makes all the difference imo.

That evening I met up with a real cutie from Shanghai’s when that closed. Again, she’s got all of the qualities of above with the added advantage of being very beautiful. I kept her for the last 3 days of my trip in order to maximise return to fixed factors. Initially I experience an excitement of a girl being new, if I’ve never been there before I can’t but help getting unbelievably excited. The second or third times with the same girl can actually improve over the first time as she relaxes (because she now knows me), and I have started to understand how to push her buttons and get her going. However, after a few days I find that I’m getting bored of her and ‘familiarity is starting to breed contempt’. As such, three days is just about enough.

Overall, what I really enjoyed about this short break (other than the obvious), was hanging out at Flamingos. I met some great guys there and spent some really happy hours just sitting around drinking, discussing adventures in the field and putting the world to rights.

Can’t wait until my next chance to get back to PP !!

Norhead
10-16-05, 21:57
Going to PP in 2 weeks. Haven't been there for two years, and planned to stay at Flamingos. But my travelmate prefers a hotel with a swimmingpool. Any good suggestion for girlfriendly reasonably priced hotel not too far a way from the action?

Otherwise I guess the action still is going on in Sharkys, Martinis, Walkabout etc...

Member #4530
10-17-05, 04:00
Norhead,

I'm a fan of the Big Luck Hotel (formerly Hong Kong Hotel). Good location near supermarket, restaurants, and 3 internet cafes. About a 5 minute walk to St. 63 action and maybe 15 minute walk to the sites around the Flamingo. I even walk 20 minutes to Martinis from there in early evening (don't recommend this for everyone).

Hotel has a very nice clean swimming pool on the sixth floor roof. I spend an hour a day in there. Also good views over Monivong Blvd from it.

Enjoy,

waffles

http://bigluckhotel.com

Ekspat
10-18-05, 10:45
So,
used the new offer from Air Asia and booked a weekend over there in PP. 25th to 28th November. 350RM=90USD, not too bad.

I have been there last time in 2004, any major changes?

Sophie, Cyrcee still running?
Got a good treatment once in a bar called Mikado, still the same? Any similar new bar like this?
Martini has relocated as I've heard, but I'll find it.

Flamingo hotel seems to be highly recommended here,
usually I stay NewYork Hotel in Monivong Blv.
Anyone can compare those two?

Anyone having a cold one end November, drop a PM.

Cheers!

Norhead
10-18-05, 21:51
Thanks for letting me know about Big Luck Hotel. I will give it a try. Posted a pic in the Photo Gallery from my last trip to PP.

Regards,

Norhead

Fast Eddie 48
10-18-05, 21:51
So,
used the new offer from Air Asia and booked a weekend over there in PP. 25th to 28th November. 350RM=90USD, not too bad.

I have been there last time in 2004, any major changes?

Sophie, Cyrcee still running?
Got a good treatment once in a bar called Mikado, still the same? Any similar new bar like this?
Martini has relocated as I've heard, but I'll find it.

Flamingo hotel seems to be highly recommended here,
usually I stay NewYork Hotel in Monivong Blv.
Anyone can compare those two?

Anyone having a cold one end November, drop a PM.

Cheers!


to eskpat

i stay in new york hotel last year is a very new and clean hotel but
the room is kind of small , very friendly staff cost is $ 25-30 usd
i think famingo is in a closer to all the action but the room is not as
nice . air fare air asia is that from kl or what 90 usd .


fast eddie 48

Fast Eddie 48
10-18-05, 21:57
Norhead,

I'm a fan of the Big Luck Hotel (formerly Hong Kong Hotel). Good location near supermarket, restaurants, and 3 internet cafes. About a 5 minute walk to St. 63 action and maybe 15 minute walk to the sites around the Flamingo. I even walk 20 minutes to Martinis from there in early evening (don't recommend this for everyone).

Hotel has a very nice clean swimming pool on the sixth floor roof. I spend an hour a day in there. Also good views over Monivong Blvd from it.

Enjoy,

waffles

http://bigluckhotel.com


to waffles

very small swimming pool atlease they have one , not too many hotel
at pp have a pool expect the big 4 star hotel , do you know the speical
sing room on the web is same as the single room. are they far from the
central market .

fast eddie 48

Shamas
10-20-05, 05:54
billibong, bilibong or how ever you spell it, it's just a 5 minute walk from Walkabout & Flamingos, has a very nice pool.

Ekspat
10-20-05, 05:59
i think famingo is in a closer to all the action but the room is not as
nice. air fare air asia is that from kl or what 90 usd.


Yes, from KL.
Okay then, will most likely stay in NYH.

Cheers!

Fast Eddie 48
10-21-05, 05:16
billibong, bilibong or how ever you spell it, it's just a 5 minute walk from Walkabout & Flamingos, has a very nice pool.


to shamas

do you have the adress or web site , is this a new hotel never heard about
this place , how much is the std room.



fast eddie 48

Firedick
10-21-05, 05:41
http://www.thebillabonghotel.com/about_us.htm

Ekspat
10-21-05, 08:06
how much is the std room.


Iiiih, I would never take an STD room, not even for free.
Here it's 34 USD.
Better take suite for 48 USD without STD.
;-)
Cheers!

Shamas
10-21-05, 15:48
I had lunch at the poolside one afternoon. The pool was clean, being used by quite a few people and quite large for a hotel.

The food was very good. They also had English newspapers available.

I didn't get a chance to scope out any of the rooms.

Shamas

JesseJames
10-23-05, 00:21
Iiiih, I would never take an STD room, not even for free.
Here it's 34 USD.
Better take suite for 48 USD without STD.
;-)
Cheers!I hope you guys who take $48 rooms doesn't cause all the hotels to raise their rates. $25, in PNH, works for me.

Fast Eddie 48
10-23-05, 05:09
Iiiih, I would never take an STD room, not even for free.
Here it's 34 USD.
Better take suite for 48 USD without STD.
;-)
Cheers!


to eskpat / firedick

i agree with jessejames $ 34.00 usd a room in pp is way too much for a
small motel , i think hotel cambodiana 4 star with large pool single room
start at around $42.00 usd .

fast eddie 48

Member #4530
10-23-05, 07:38
to waffles

very small swimming pool atlease they have one , not too many hotel
at pp have a pool expect the big 4 star hotel , do you know the speical
sing room on the web is same as the single room. are they far from the
central market .

fast eddie 48Fast Eddie, Yea the pool is small but clean and usually empty. I used it four times this past week and was the only in there. Its long enough for me to my laps. There's no frills.

They did put an ugly massage shack next to the pool since my last visit and one gets harassed by them for massage (conventional). They get the hint quick though. I use to do late night private swims with ladies but the massage shack may preclude that now.

Its about a 15-20 minute walk to the Central Market and the about the same to Martinis. I walked to Martinis twice this week (on the only nights it wasn't raining) and had no problems. I take taxi home though. I wouldn't walk it after 10 PM.

Rates are very negotialable at Big Luck Hotel and don't pay the prices listed on the web site. You should be paying $5 to $10 less. Email them. They were about 50% capacity this week.

Warning - if you get the room for a very good price, they'll try to charge you to use the swimming pool and the free breakfast ain't free anymore. Negotiate all before. I pay about $10 less then their web price but have been a customer for 3 years. I'm not sure if I get the free breakfast as I didn't wake up in time this week. I do have unlimited use of the pool.

I've stayed at about a half dozen hotels in Phnom Penh but no hotel works harder for the mongering customer. The staff was great at blocking girls unannounced visits at the lobby (while I was occupied) and will be at your door in a second if you have any problems. Likewise the maids, security and management treat the lady visitors very well.

I had an afternoon visit with a lady who just had a motobike mishap and ripped her dress. I didn't have a sewing kit and couldn't help her. 30 minutes after she left I found her sitting in the hallway with a maid sewing her dress for her. It was a nice touch.

http://bigluckhotel.com

waffles

Gene Pitney
10-23-05, 11:04
I'm looking for a not-fancy, inexpensive (approx $10) hotel recommendation between the mkt and the river, PP. Paillot?

Thnx

Firedick
10-23-05, 20:25
Thanks for the info. I've been looking for a nice/budget hotel with a pool. In the pictures, the pool area shows a nice blue sky. Is that accurate or a re-touched photo ?

FD

Member #4530
10-24-05, 02:35
Thanks for the info. I've been looking for a nice/budget hotel with a pool. In the pictures, the pool area shows a nice blue sky. Is that accurate or a re-touched photo ?

FDThat photo (http://bigluckhotel.com/facilities.shtml) is probably retouched but I guess its possible to get a blue sky like that during the dry season. Note the place where the two white guys are lounging is no more - is now the massage shack. I will say the pool looks bigger in real life than in the photo.

Shamas
10-24-05, 02:42
here's a great guide to Phnom Penh, hotels, resturants and bars.

http://www.cambodiapocketguide.com/

You can get copies in a small pocket version in most bars, hotels and resturants, it's very good.

Just to plug a few places I ate at that are very good

La Dreauville by Wat Phnom
Pon Lok on the river front
Del Gusto on St 95 next block from Martinis
Green Vespa on the river front
Rising Sun on the river front

If Jackson erases the link, PM me and I'll forward it to you.

Shamas O'D

Firedick
10-24-05, 22:10
Thanks for the info guys.

I wasn't really concerned about the color of the sky, but whether it could be seen. ie: tall buildings near by.

FD

Member #4530
11-01-05, 17:07
Being on the 6th floor of a seven floor building its one of the taller places in Phnom Penh.

Firedick
11-03-05, 19:36
Being on the 6th floor of a seven floor building its one of the taller places in Phnom Penh.


Cool. Thanks.

FD

Drogon
11-05-05, 08:56
Greetings all,

Is the sunway hotel guest friendly?

Thanks for the answer

Isg69
11-07-05, 18:13
My friend was befriended by a young lanky moto driver named Dara (that was what he said it sounded like) who hangs out at the entrance of Flamingos Hotel.

He (my friend) was taken to this unmarked shop lot with metal gates. Inside were girls to choose. After getting the action, he noticed that his trousers seemed to have moved from the hook on the wall to another. The clothes hook happened to be near the door. Upon checking, he found several Dollar notes missing from his wallet.

After a long confrontation with the brothel owner, he managed to get part of his money back.

The moto driver is part of the scam even though he claimed that he had brought many customers there without any complaints.

My advice guys: Do not bring more than needed and definitely bring cash only. Leave your important stuff like passports and wallet in the hotel safe. Also, keep an eye on your belongings at all times. Do take care please.

Ekspat
11-17-05, 06:36
Hi mates,
heading to Phnom Penh soon, I wanted to know where Martini is located nowadays. So I found the webpage
http://www.martini-cambodia.com/
Please click.

Look to the left, it's written
Martini Bar
Open 7pm to 3am
#110, Street 173,

In the middle of the page
Martini Pub
#45, Street 95.

Are there two? Martini Bar and Martini Pub?
Or just the page not updated?

Can someone enlighten me?

Cheers!

Dveight Inpp
11-17-05, 12:39
Just to confirm Martini's location as being #45 street 95 (near Toul Sleng).

I'm new to the board, living in Phnom Penh and am married to a local that owns a couple of bars.

So if you have any comments about 104 or DV8 please forward them to me.

Just to clarify a few perceptions of DV8 though. It's not a sex bar but there are girls that may be willing to entertain you. It's more of a cross between Shaghai and LCC except we play better music and the girls have a lower mileage

Coma Boy
11-17-05, 19:14
DV8 may not be a sex bar, but when I visited every girl was keen to leave with a customer. I actually really like that bar, will be back there in a few weeks.

As for Martini, it doesn't matter if you know the address or not, every single moto-dude knows the location.

Dinghy
11-17-05, 22:32
DV8 is a pretty nice place - run by a Brit. Lots of ladies, some prettier than others. I found it "by accident" - just stumbled into it walking down the river road, just a little off the river road, but I might not be able to find it again without a bit of searching. Technically, the girls are FL since the "issue" in PP is how much to pay the local Gendarmarie - or get busted.

Sophies is owned by a lady who was the wife (sister - don't remember) of the former police chief., The better connected one is, the less hassle there is.

Hollow Man
11-18-05, 04:59
My first time in Phnom Penh. I'll be brief.

Sakura hotel has thieves. I leave little markers in my room to let me know if anyone has been in it and each day someoen has. They also have the key to the little wooden cabinet thing they leave you to keep your stuff in. I'm was in the $15 room not the King room. I left a piece of paper hanging so that is the cabinet door open then it drops but I also aligned it to someone else in the room. When they tried to put it back and reclose the cabinet they didn't align it properly so I knew automatically. The guy at the front desk is in on it. When I checked outand brought it up to him he said "no no they key is at the front desk only. " When I explained how I knew someone had opened it suddenly his english wasn't as good. Perhaps they don't do this to everyone or the people in the King Room but I am very careful when traveling alone and Sakura has shady staff. Also noted there were some webcams on the ceiling corners. Don't know why they are there.

Went to Okay guest house from the Lonely Planet Guide. Great place. Very safe and full of cheap tourists but not a girl friendly place. I don't think they would make a fuss but you would get stares from the other guests who always eat and watch TV at the entrance. If you know a nice hotel that is cheaper please make some more recommendations. ($10 preferred)

Sophie's is excellent. Very good attitudes and some okay looking girls. Dirty and grungy but that attitude as you come in until you leave is killer. Makes anyone feel like a king and these girls appreciate your money. Girls aren't top beauties but some are very cute and they accomodate you in any position, time, desires you want.

Went to Sharkies. Very nice but I went to look only. Chatted with some expats. If anyone wants to meet up and help a newbie please let me know. Maybe I can buy you a drink at Sharkies or something.

Doro Ron
11-19-05, 06:17
I am a Japanese traveler.
(The thing with strange English is charms) .
Mr.Hollow Man wrote about SAKURA hotel.
I also comment a few.

I am staying at SAKURA hotel from six years before.
I use for the year about 5 times.

SAKURA hotel has two kinds of rooms.
(1) King room.  25 - 20 dollars.
(2) Normal room 15 - 20 dollars.
The hotel has separated a few from the street and is very quiet.
The staff is very friendly.
A cleaning woman is an elderly lady.
She is very self-sacrificing.
She cleans the room every day.
Although I always go out around 9:00, she cleans the room after that.
She moves a thing, in order to clean the untidy room.
I trust the staff perfectly.
She never steals, even if a passport and cash are discharged.
Conversely, she is arranging the clothing and baggage which were in disorder.

If it does not go into the room, I will make a story a front.
Then, she does not go into the room.
The room is not cleaned, either.

The merit of SAKURA hotel is as follows.
(1) The hotel is distant from the main street and is quiet.
(2) A motorbike dangerous in front of the door does not stay.
(3) Therefore, there are few risks of informing to the police secretly.
(4) If the front of night is requested, delivery of the girl will be carried out.
(The time looked for outside is omissible) .
(5) It is not careful although a girl is taken.
(But a very young girl cannot enter) .
(6) A massage girl can call freely.
(as soon as you negotiate after that) .

Let's pass the staff of a car parking space a tip a little.
Let's pass a cleaning woman a tip a little.
Then, your safety improves by leaps and bounds.

Ljohnson
11-19-05, 11:27
I recently spent 4 nights in Phnom Penh. We (a buddy and I) stayed at the Manor House Guest House. We paid $30 per night which is more than I usually pay in Phnom Penh, but this palce is especially nice and clean and the restaurant on the ground floor is outstanding. It is just around the corner from Khmer Surin restaurant.

The place is owned and operated by a gay couple Kim (Cambodian) and Greg (Aussie) so it's not for homophobes. But I will stay there again and there was no problem with me bring a little cutie (yes, female!) back to my room. Only 9 rooms in the place. I recommend it.

LJ

Bulik
11-20-05, 19:59
Hollow Man,

Try to go to Rose Bar and Zanzibar, they are cool little places. There is also another place similar to Sophies, Makado and LaCyrcie. Spelling might be correct. Try them out if you have time.

Have A Good Time,

Bulik

ChillyMonkey
11-21-05, 02:16
Got back home a few weeks ago but went straight into a pretty intense job so I haven’t had time to write a report until now. I learned a lot on this forum to prepare me for cambodia, so I wanted to give back what I can.

I flew into Bangkok and went straight to the Nana Plaza area. I figured I would get a room at Nana Hotel, but it was all booked up. Went down the street to the Dynasty and got the very last room they had, and it was only available for one night! Needless to say it was really crowded! Technically it was the off season, but I get the feeling there is no such thing in Thai sex destinations any more. That’s a big change from five to eight years ago when I was traveling to South East Asia frequently and lived in the Philippines. Now it is just a crazy, crowded mad house.

I checked into my room and went straight out to Nana Plaza…. And arrived just in time for it to close down! I didn’t know they shut down at 1AM now… that’s lame! There were some touts trying to get people to go to all night bars / sex clubs, but I didn’t go for it.

The next morning I was feeling a bit put off by the state of the Nana Plaza the previous night so I went across the street to a travel agency to check into going to Cambodia for a few days. I figured I’d check Cambodia out a bit, and then come back to Bangkok and Pattaya. The ticket to leave in just a few hours cost $220 RT on Bangkok Air. I think I could have gotten a cheaper one from another carrier, but didn’t feel like investigating as I didn’t even have a hotel for the night.

Bangkok Air is a very nice airline, very modern and has a great change ticket policy (which was important since my three day trip to Phnom Penh turned into two weeks).

First impression of PP is of a standard third world country, with NO traffic laws. I just closed my eyes and hoped for the best during the taxi ride from the airport! By the way, it should cost about $7 for the ride to downtown and you can get a taxi outside the airport (I never get one from the touts inside the airport since it always seems to be twice as expensive for the same thing).

Went straight to the Flamingo’s Hotel. I read some good reports on it so I figured it would be a good first stop. I checked out the rooms and decided on a standard for $20 a night. The Deluxe rooms are $25 and have a king size bed, but are otherwise the same as a standard. The Superior for $30 has a nice big bath tub with a king bed. But the standard was fine for my needs. I was able to get a room even though I didn’t have a reservation. The staff is really friendly and helpful and the hotel is in the perfect location if you are there for the bar scene. They also have a great roof deck that serves barbecue a couple nights a week.

I went to some of the other hotels I have read about in this forum to compare. The California 2 seemed like a friendly enough place, but the rooms a bit rundown and are the same price as Flamingo’s. It’s on the river, so you can get a room with a nice view. But it also tends to be really loud because of traffic too.

The Sakura is far away from all the action and the rooms are no better than Flamingo’s for slightly more money. It does have an onsite “fish bowl” massage parlour, and apparently you can get girls sent up to your room from it. But the quality is pretty bad. I tried one of the girls out (within an hour of arriving in PP :-) and the service was a bit lame too. In my opinion it just wasn’t worth it.

I was worried about how spread out the sex scene is in Phnom Penh. It certainly isn’t as convenient as Pattaya, but it’s not bad either. Motos are everywhere and the tourist price is a dollar for a trip. I have heard you can go cheaper (like 50 to 75 cents), but I didn’t bother haggling. Plus for a little adventure, walking is fine since the city is relatively small.

I really don’t think you need to hire a taxi by the day, like some people recommend. You can get around easy by moto, and there aren’t any really secret spots out there that require a guide. You can just ask around once you arrive, or search through these forums like I did.

My first sex stop after the Sakura was Sophie’s club. This was one of the coolest experiences I’ve had! You walk up a dark, smelly corridor to a grungy doorway. It was locked when I arrived, but when I knocked a girl came to the door. It’s a total hole in the wall with dark lighting and worn furniture. But it is packed with about ten or so girls and before I even made it to a bar stool they were fighting to open my pants to give me a blow job! Once I was sitting I ordered a beer and before it was opened one of the girls had my dick in her mouth. After a little while, it was another girls turn and then another! The deal is that they all want to give you a sample of their skills so you choose to take them into on of the adjoining rooms. It’s a pretty amazing experience to have ten girls fighting to give you a blow job, so I quickly fell in love with this place. I took two girls into a back room and got multiple blow jobs. The looks of the girls here are average at best, but that didn’t bother me since I wasn’t planning on any “boom boom”, just the “yum yum”. It costs $10 per girl to go in the back room, and it’s nice to give $1 tips to all the girls that gave you a sample blow job (although that isn’t mandatory). Luckily for me, I was the only customer in the bar because I don’t know how I would feel about getting a blow job while some stranger was staring at me (someone told me that voyeurs like to hang out here to watch). But it’s a great experience and a must for any trip to PP. I had never been to a blow job bar in Pattaya, but now that will be my first stop next time I’m there!

I also went to Mikado Club, which I had heard was similar to Sophie’s. Mikado has a much nicer interior and there are no public blow jobs. But the girls come right up to you and rub you in all the right places, since they want you to take them up to a room. I decided on two girls again and we went to a nicely appointed room above the bar. It had a bathroom, porn on the tv and mirrors on the ceiling. It was good service and the girls were slightly better looking than Sophie’s. About the same price too. Although I still like Sophie’s best.

I also went to a few brothels in downtown PP that were really nice and had great quality girls. It cost anywhere from $10 to $50 depending on the girl. I have heard there are cheaper places, but the quality of the set up made up for the price. I’m not so into those chicken farm type places (except for the adventure aspect of it) and am willing to pay a little extra for a clean attractive girl in an air conditioned private room. It is pretty well known where these brothels are, but I’ll refrain from mentioning it since apparently there are NGO weenies lurking on these boards looking for places to shut down. The two famous brothel areas just outside of PP were shut down by NGO’s, which bummed me out since I have heard so many cool stories about them.

The famous Heart of Darkness was closed when I was in town for “refurbishment”, but the real reason is that someone was killed there after an altercation a while ago.

The Butterfly bar down the street has taken up the slack from the closing of the Heart of Darkness. It’s packed after midnight! It has a disco downstairs and an open bar with pool table upstairs. There are tons of freelancers there late at night but can get so packed you can’t even see who is available. Plus you have to be careful not to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off the wrong person.

I spent a lot of time at Shanghai Bar, my favorite place in Phnom Penh. The girls are pretty and nice and it’s just a good place to hang out. You can bar fine girls here for $5. Never asked how much the girls would charge you for a night but I would imagine about $20? I have a feeling some of the girls wouldn’t even do it though unless they actually were into the guy.

You can also pick up girls from any bar in town. Sharky’s and Walkabout are packed with freelancers, but I never tried this out. I just enjoyed the brothels and Sophie’s and never really felt like taking a girl back to my room with me. In my opinion, the girls I found in Thailand were a bit more attractive than the Khmer girls. Although, the Vietnamese girls are pretty attractive too, and you can occasionally find them around also. But all in all, I would say that the Thai girls are a bit more my style as far as looks go. Plus the thai girls are a bit more sophisticated when it comes to personal grooming and keeping their bodies in shape. Just my opinion.

But I LOVED Phnom Penh. In fact I liked it so much I’m going back there on Thursday November 24th for a month! It is an addictive place to be. I found the people to be really friendly and helpful in a much more genuine way than Thailand. They still have their hands out, but I would too if I worked 16 hours a day and only made $200 a month! Plus the country has that wild west feel to it, whereas Thailand seems really over developed now. I guess it’s just more about what you are into. When I was there a few weeks ago, I spent my whole time in Phnom Penh (about two weeks). Two weeks in PP is probably too long for most people, but I made some good local friends who showed me the city and took me on some cool adventures. If you are in it only for the nookie and don’t care much about he culture or country, than I guess Thailand is still the place to go. But there are a lot of other places in Cambodia I want to explore now, and I am sure a month still won’t be enough time.

Hollow Man
11-21-05, 02:51
Went to Sharkies last night and had my first take out. When I went to the balcony area I waved waved over by this pretty little thing. her name was something...Nam. Pretty straightforward so I said OK. We went to a ST place for $5 then did the deed for $10, $1 for moto. decent experience with no hassles or problems. I was a dumbass and asked for pics AFTER we got to the hotel room. Answer was of course "no". BBBJ, cowgirl, missionary, doggie, missionary, Attitude 7-8. Looks 7-8. I enjoyed the experience.

There was a deaf girl working there too but she was only a 6-7! Some people may be into that but it's not a thriller for me. I may try her some other time just to say I had one once.

ChillyMonkey
11-21-05, 06:36
Got back home a few weeks ago but went straight into a pretty intense job so I haven’t had time to write a report until now.

I flew into Bangkok and went straight to the Nana Plaza area. I figured I would get a room at Nana Hotel, but it was all booked up. Went down the street to the Dynasty and got the very last room they had, and it was only available for one night! Needless to say it was really crowded! Technically it was the off season, but I get the feeling there is no such thing in Thai sex destinations any more. That’s a big change from five to eight years ago when I was traveling to South East Asia frequently and lived in the Philippines. Now it is just a crazy, crowded mad house.

I checked into my room and went straight out to Nana Plaza…. And arrived just in time for it to close down! I didn’t know they shut down at 1AM now… that’s lame! There were some touts trying to get people to go to all night bars / sex clubs, but I didn’t go for it.

The next morning I was feeling a bit put off by the state of the Nana Plaza the previous night so I went across the street to a travel agency to check into going to Cambodia for a few days. I figured I’d check Cambodia out a bit, and then come back to Bangkok and Pattaya. The ticket to leave in just a few hours cost $220 RT on Bangkok Air. I think I could have gotten a cheaper one from another carrier, but didn’t feel like investigating as I didn’t even have a hotel for the night.

Bangkok Air is a very nice airline, very modern and has a great change ticket policy (which was important since my three day trip to Phnom Penh turned into two weeks).

First impression of PP is of a standard third world country, with NO traffic laws. I just closed my eyes and hoped for the best during the taxi ride from the airport! By the way, it should cost about $7 for the ride to downtown and you can get a taxi outside the airport (I never get one from the touts inside the airport since it always seems to be twice as expensive for the same thing).

Went straight to the Flamingo’s Hotel. I read some good reports on it so I figured it would be a good first stop. I checked out the rooms and decided on a standard for $20 a night. The Deluxe rooms are $25 and have a king size bed, but are otherwise the same as a standard. The Superior for $30 has a nice big bath tub with a king bed. But the standard was fine for my needs. I was able to get a room even though I didn’t have a reservation. The staff is really friendly and helpful and the hotel is in the perfect location if you are there for the bar scene. They also have a great roof deck that serves barbecue a couple nights a week.

I went to some of the other hotels I have read about in this forum to compare. The California 2 seemed like a friendly enough place, but the rooms a bit rundown and are the same price as Flamingo’s. It’s on the river, so you can get a room with a nice view. But it also tends to be really loud because of traffic too.

The Sakura is far away from all the action and the rooms are no better than Flamingo’s for slightly more money. It does have an onsite “fish bowl” massage parlour, and apparently you can get girls sent up to your room from it. But the quality is pretty bad. I tried one of the girls out (within an hour of arriving in PP :-) and the service was a bit lame too. In my opinion it just wasn’t worth it.

I was worried about how spread out the sex scene is in Phnom Penh. It certainly isn’t as convenient as Pattaya, but it’s not bad either. Motos are everywhere and the tourist price is a dollar for a trip. I have heard you can go cheaper (like 50 to 75 cents), but I didn’t bother haggling. Plus for a little adventure, walking is fine since the city is relatively small.

I really don’t think you need to hire a taxi by the day, like some people recommend. You can get around easy by moto, and there aren’t any really secret spots out there that require a guide. You can just ask around once you arrive, or search through these forums like I did.

My first sex stop after the Sakura was Sophie’s club. This was one of the coolest experiences I’ve had! You walk up a dark, smelly corridor to a grungy doorway. It was locked when I arrived, but when I knocked a girl came to the door. It’s a total hole in the wall with dark lighting and worn furniture. But it is packed with about ten or so girls and before I even made it to a bar stool they were fighting to open my pants to give me a blow job! Once I was sitting I ordered a beer and before it was opened one of the girls had my dick in her mouth. After a little while, it was another girls turn and then another! The deal is that they all want to give you a sample of their skills so you choose to take them into on of the adjoining rooms. It’s a pretty amazing experience to have ten girls fighting to give you a blow job, so I quickly fell in love with this place. I took two girls into a back room and got multiple blow jobs. The looks of the girls here are average at best, but that didn’t bother me since I wasn’t planning on any “boom boom”, just the “yum yum”. It costs $10 per girl to go in the back room, and it’s nice to give $1 tips to all the girls that gave you a sample blow job (although that isn’t mandatory). Luckily for me, I was the only customer in the bar because I don’t know how I would feel about getting a blow job while some stranger was staring at me (someone told me that voyeurs like to hang out here to watch). But it’s a great experience and a must for any trip to PP. I had never been to a blow job bar in Pattaya, but now that will be my first stop next time I’m there!

I also went to Mikado Club, which I had heard was similar to Sophie’s. Mikado has a much nicer interior and there are no public blow jobs. But the girls come right up to you and rub you in all the right places, since they want you to take them up to a room. I decided on two girls again and we went to a nicely appointed room above the bar. It had a bathroom, porn on the tv and mirrors on the ceiling. It was good service and the girls were slightly better looking than Sophie’s. About the same price too. Although I still like Sophie’s best.

I also went to a few brothels in downtown PP that were really nice and had great quality girls. It cost anywhere from $10 to $50 depending on the girl. I have heard there are cheaper places, but the quality of the set up made up for the price. I’m not so into those chicken farm type places (except for the adventure aspect of it) and am willing to pay a little extra for a clean attractive girl in an air conditioned private room. It is pretty well known where these brothels are, but I’ll refrain from mentioning it since apparently there are NGO weenies lurking on these boards looking for places to shut down. The two famous brothel areas just outside of PP were shut down by NGO’s, which bummed me out since I have heard so many cool stories about them.

The famous Heart of Darkness was closed when I was in town for “refurbishment”, but the real reason is that someone was killed there after an altercation a while ago.

The Butterfly bar down the street has taken up the slack from the closing of the Heart of Darkness. It’s packed after midnight! It has a disco downstairs and an open bar with pool table upstairs. There are tons of freelancers there late at night but can get so packed you can’t even see who is available. Plus you have to be careful not to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off the wrong person…..

I spent a lot of time at Shanghai Bar, my favorite place in Phnom Penh. The girls are pretty and nice and it’s just a good place to hang out. You can bar fine girls here for $5. Never asked how much the girls would charge you for a night but I would imagine about $20? I have a feeling some of the girls wouldn’t even do it though unless they actually were into the guy. Or maybe I'm naive.....

You can also pick up girls from any bar in town. Sharky’s and Walkabout are packed with freelancers, but I never tried this out. I just enjoyed the brothels and Sophie’s and never really felt like taking a girl back to my room with me. In my opinion, the girls I found in Thailand were a bit more attractive than the Khmer girls. Although, the Vietnamese girls are pretty attractive too, and you can occasionally find them around also (not just in the brothels). But all in all, I would say that the Thai girls are a bit more my style as far as looks go. Plus the thai girls are a bit more sophisticated when it comes to personal grooming and keeping their bodies in shape. Just my opinion.

But I LOVED Phnom Penh. In fact I liked it so much I’m going back there on Thursday November 24th for a month! It is an addictive place to be. I found the people to be really friendly and helpful in a much more genuine way than Thailand. They still have their hands out, but I would too if I worked 16 hours a day and only made $200 a month! Plus the country has that wild west feel to it, whereas Thailand seems really overly developed now. I guess it’s just more about what you are into. When I was there a few weeks ago, I spent my whole time in Phnom Penh (about two weeks). Two weeks in PP is probably too long for most people, but I made some good local friends who showed me the city and took me on some cool adventures. Next time I go I'll be doing a lot more exploring. If you are in it only for the nookie and don’t care much about he culture or country, than I guess Thailand is still the place to go. But there are a lot of other places in Cambodia I want to explore now, and I am sure a month still won’t be enough time.

I'll also be spending some time in bangkok and Pattaya this trip just so I can compare. I loved Pattaya last time I was there, but that was eight years ago and I am sure it's changed a lot (they have a Hard Rock Hotel for pete's sake!). I am planning on going overland to Cambodia from Pattaya this trip but don't really know how to do it. I have read reports that I have to stay in the town of Kep overnight on my way to Sihounakville, but I would rather go straight there. Anybody know a way to do this? Can I get a taxi at the border to take me straight there?

Deal Seeker
11-21-05, 07:44
Got back home a few weeks ago but went straight into a pretty intense job so I haven’t had time to write a report until now.

I flew into Bangkok and went straight to the Nana Plaza area. I figured I would get a room at Nana Hotel, but it was all booked up. Went down the street to the Dynasty and got the very last room they had, and it was only available for one night! Needless to say it was really crowded! Technically it was the off season, but I get the feeling there is no such thing in Thai sex destinations any more. That’s a big change from five to eight years ago when I was traveling to South East Asia frequently and lived in the Philippines. Now it is just a crazy, crowded mad house.

I checked into my room and went straight out to Nana Plaza…. And arrived just in time for it to close down! I didn’t know they shut down at 1AM now… that’s lame! There were some touts trying to get people to go to all night bars / sex clubs, but I didn’t go for it.

The next morning I was feeling a bit put off by the state of the Nana Plaza the previous night so I went across the street to a travel agency to check into going to Cambodia for a few days. I figured I’d check Cambodia out a bit, and then come back to Bangkok and Pattaya. The ticket to leave in just a few hours cost $220 RT on Bangkok Air. I think I could have gotten a cheaper one from another carrier, but didn’t feel like investigating as I didn’t even have a hotel for the night.

Bangkok Air is a very nice airline, very modern and has a great change ticket policy (which was important since my three day trip to Phnom Penh turned into two weeks).

First impression of PP is of a standard third world country, with NO traffic laws. I just closed my eyes and hoped for the best during the taxi ride from the airport! By the way, it should cost about $7 for the ride to downtown and you can get a taxi outside the airport (I never get one from the touts inside the airport since it always seems to be twice as expensive for the same thing).

Went straight to the Flamingo’s Hotel. I read some good reports on it so I figured it would be a good first stop. I checked out the rooms and decided on a standard for $20 a night. The Deluxe rooms are $25 and have a king size bed, but are otherwise the same as a standard. The Superior for $30 has a nice big bath tub with a king bed. But the standard was fine for my needs. I was able to get a room even though I didn’t have a reservation. The staff is really friendly and helpful and the hotel is in the perfect location if you are there for the bar scene. They also have a great roof deck that serves barbecue a couple nights a week.

I went to some of the other hotels I have read about in this forum to compare. The California 2 seemed like a friendly enough place, but the rooms a bit rundown and are the same price as Flamingo’s. It’s on the river, so you can get a room with a nice view. But it also tends to be really loud because of traffic too.

The Sakura is far away from all the action and the rooms are no better than Flamingo’s for slightly more money. It does have an onsite “fish bowl” massage parlour, and apparently you can get girls sent up to your room from it. But the quality is pretty bad. I tried one of the girls out (within an hour of arriving in PP :-) and the service was a bit lame too. In my opinion it just wasn’t worth it.

I was worried about how spread out the sex scene is in Phnom Penh. It certainly isn’t as convenient as Pattaya, but it’s not bad either. Motos are everywhere and the tourist price is a dollar for a trip. I have heard you can go cheaper (like 50 to 75 cents), but I didn’t bother haggling. Plus for a little adventure, walking is fine since the city is relatively small.

I really don’t think you need to hire a taxi by the day, like some people recommend. You can get around easy by moto, and there aren’t any really secret spots out there that require a guide. You can just ask around once you arrive, or search through these forums like I did.

My first sex stop after the Sakura was Sophie’s club. This was one of the coolest experiences I’ve had! You walk up a dark, smelly corridor to a grungy doorway. It was locked when I arrived, but when I knocked a girl came to the door. It’s a total hole in the wall with dark lighting and worn furniture. But it is packed with about ten or so girls and before I even made it to a bar stool they were fighting to open my pants to give me a blow job! Once I was sitting I ordered a beer and before it was opened one of the girls had my dick in her mouth. After a little while, it was another girls turn and then another! The deal is that they all want to give you a sample of their skills so you choose to take them into on of the adjoining rooms. It’s a pretty amazing experience to have ten girls fighting to give you a blow job, so I quickly fell in love with this place. I took two girls into a back room and got multiple blow jobs. The looks of the girls here are average at best, but that didn’t bother me since I wasn’t planning on any “boom boom”, just the “yum yum”. It costs $10 per girl to go in the back room, and it’s nice to give $1 tips to all the girls that gave you a sample blow job (although that isn’t mandatory). Luckily for me, I was the only customer in the bar because I don’t know how I would feel about getting a blow job while some stranger was staring at me (someone told me that voyeurs like to hang out here to watch). But it’s a great experience and a must for any trip to PP. I had never been to a blow job bar in Pattaya, but now that will be my first stop next time I’m there!

I also went to Mikado Club, which I had heard was similar to Sophie’s. Mikado has a much nicer interior and there are no public blow jobs. But the girls come right up to you and rub you in all the right places, since they want you to take them up to a room. I decided on two girls again and we went to a nicely appointed room above the bar. It had a bathroom, porn on the tv and mirrors on the ceiling. It was good service and the girls were slightly better looking than Sophie’s. About the same price too. Although I still like Sophie’s best.

I also went to a few brothels in downtown PP that were really nice and had great quality girls. It cost anywhere from $10 to $50 depending on the girl. I have heard there are cheaper places, but the quality of the set up made up for the price. I’m not so into those chicken farm type places (except for the adventure aspect of it) and am willing to pay a little extra for a clean attractive girl in an air conditioned private room. It is pretty well known where these brothels are, but I’ll refrain from mentioning it since apparently there are NGO weenies lurking on these boards looking for places to shut down. The two famous brothel areas just outside of PP were shut down by NGO’s, which bummed me out since I have heard so many cool stories about them.

The famous Heart of Darkness was closed when I was in town for “refurbishment”, but the real reason is that someone was killed there after an altercation a while ago.

The Butterfly bar down the street has taken up the slack from the closing of the Heart of Darkness. It’s packed after midnight! It has a disco downstairs and an open bar with pool table upstairs. There are tons of freelancers there late at night but can get so packed you can’t even see who is available. Plus you have to be careful not to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off the wrong person.

I spent a lot of time at Shanghai Bar, my favorite place in Phnom Penh. The girls are pretty and nice and it’s just a good place to hang out. You can bar fine girls here for $5. Never asked how much the girls would charge you for a night but I would imagine about $20? I have a feeling some of the girls wouldn’t even do it though unless they actually were into the guy. Or maybe I'm naive.

You can also pick up girls from any bar in town. Sharky’s and Walkabout are packed with freelancers, but I never tried this out. I just enjoyed the brothels and Sophie’s and never really felt like taking a girl back to my room with me. In my opinion, the girls I found in Thailand were a bit more attractive than the Khmer girls. Although, the Vietnamese girls are pretty attractive too, and you can occasionally find them around also (not just in the brothels). But all in all, I would say that the Thai girls are a bit more my style as far as looks go. Plus the thai girls are a bit more sophisticated when it comes to personal grooming and keeping their bodies in shape. Just my opinion.

But I LOVED Phnom Penh. In fact I liked it so much I’m going back there on Thursday November 24th for a month! It is an addictive place to be. I found the people to be really friendly and helpful in a much more genuine way than Thailand. They still have their hands out, but I would too if I worked 16 hours a day and only made $200 a month! Plus the country has that wild west feel to it, whereas Thailand seems really overly developed now. I guess it’s just more about what you are into. When I was there a few weeks ago, I spent my whole time in Phnom Penh (about two weeks). Two weeks in PP is probably too long for most people, but I made some good local friends who showed me the city and took me on some cool adventures. Next time I go I'll be doing a lot more exploring. If you are in it only for the nookie and don’t care much about he culture or country, than I guess Thailand is still the place to go. But there are a lot of other places in Cambodia I want to explore now, and I am sure a month still won’t be enough time.

I'll also be spending some time in bangkok and Pattaya this trip just so I can compare. I loved Pattaya last time I was there, but that was eight years ago and I am sure it's changed a lot (they have a Hard Rock Hotel for pete's sake!). I am planning on going overland to Cambodia from Pattaya this trip but don't really know how to do it. I have read reports that I have to stay in the town of Kep overnight on my way to Sihounakville, but I would rather go straight there. Anybody know a way to do this? Can I get a taxi at the border to take me straight there?I had to quote this report, so I could find it again, awesome.

Hi,

Why didn't you just add it to the Reports of Distinction list?

That way, all of us can find it.

Thanks,

Jackson

Ekspat
11-21-05, 08:04
But I LOVED Phnom Penh. In fact I liked it so much I’m going back there on Thursday November 24th for a month!

Monkey,
I'll be there for coming weekend, 25th to 28th. And like the same places as you, Sophie and Shanghai.
Maybe we've a drink together, then drop me a PM.

Cheers!

Run Mann
11-24-05, 11:00
Good report, concur with your evaluation of the Flamingo Hotel. In regards to the Taxi versus the Moto, the roads and traffic in PP are awful as you stated. The weather was very hot when I was there so the $20.00 per day air-conditioned taxi fare was a bargain (where else can you get someone to chauffer you around all day for that price?) and is a little safer than the Moto drivers, but this is just a matter of what you like.


Chillymonkey
First impression of PP is of a standard third world country, with NO traffic laws. I just closed my eyes and hoped for the best during the taxi ride from the airport!

I really don’t think you need to hire a taxi by the day, like some people recommend. You can get around easy by moto, and there aren’t any really secret spots out there that require a guide. You can just ask around once you arrive, or search through these forums like I did.

Member #3401
11-26-05, 04:37
Can anyone tell me about Keo Chandra. Is that an active area of PP?

Jeremy
11-26-05, 10:59
Hi everyone, greetings to one and all.

Sometime back I read in this forum that there is a nice restaurant situated by the river serving great food and also that there are cute waitresses who will sit and chat with you.

I tried to look up that post again but simply could not locate it.

Does anyone know of this restaurant and its location? Or better still, the link to that particular post?

Much obliged.

Jeremy

Retired Army
11-27-05, 14:18
Stayed at the Hope and Anchor Guest House in PP. Right on the river and clean. The rooms in the back are quieter than the ones on the street. Great English speaking staff and the restaurant in't bad. Close to a lot of the attractions.

ChillyMonkey
11-29-05, 10:31
I'm back in Cambodia. I didn't last long in Pattaya. It's changed alot since last time I was there. I'll write more about my trip and comparisons later.

But for now I just wanted to recommend this guy in Phnom Penh. His name is Theara and he works at the Flamingo's Hotel. He really knows his way around Phnom Penh and also has his own car, so if it's your first time here he can help you out on where to go and what to do. He has a website you can contact him through (it's still under construction but his e-mail is on there) at www.camboguide.com

His mail is [Email Address deleted by Admin]

Anyway, he's a good guy so I thought I would put in a plug.

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Ekspat
12-02-05, 08:48
Hi dear colleagues,

having spent 4D/3N in PP, soso, quite nice but not overwhelming.
Stayed in New York Hotel, 25USD, of course guest friendly, AC, inroom safe, including free Pickup from the airport. Driver was reliable and on time, no problem.

After check-in I decided to go to Sophie, the street moto drove me first to Shanghai Bar, nono, Sophie Bar! Then he drove me to Sharky. Oh my godness.. One of the Sharky guys told him then where Sophie is located, okay, finally we arrived.. But for that time I could have walked there easily.

Sophie Club, excellent performance by the ladies as usual.
Had CIM directly at the bar 2 times between 7-9pm with several Tiger Beer.
Always worth a visit.

Off to Martini. I was quite disappointed at 10pm from girls and surrounding somehow, also I was pestered by some lady-pimps trying to sell me Viet ladies I didn't like.
Back to the hotel with a Khmer girl. Not bad, but nothing to shout about, but okay. She left 9am after two rounds, Body 8/10, BJ6/10 FJ7/10.

Sightseeing next day, I rented a motocycle with LuckyLucky as usual, drove around. Had a look at K11, but closed. Residents there, but no P4P-business, HAFH closed, I didn't even get off the moto, drove through the main road back and forth and out of it.

Had dinner and drove to Sophie, got again BBBJ with CIM. After it to Martini, same disappointment as the day before! Low business, the girls at best average, sorry, Martini two years ago near Interconti was two leagues better IMHO. Heading then to Shanghai Bar what was very good. It's for my taste the best bar currently, nice ladies, no hassle, just relaxed and to enjoy.
Picked a Khmer girl, similar rating as above.

Last day, some driving around again, taking some photos. It's amazing there, the pictures are just flowing in the camera, so many strange things even if you just stand at the street.

Skipped Sophie in the evening, instead DV8, Mikado, then to Cyrcee. No BBBJ at the bar, but excellent FJ upstairs. Worth it. Body8/10, BJ6/10, FJ8/10.
Again to Martini, had some drinks and picked a Viet girl. Big mistake. Somehow I don't click with the Viets, don't know why. We started business, but she was a dead fish. Since I had several beers, I couldn't come, so I stopped and slept. Some lousy morning FJ then and I returned the motocycle to LuckyLucky and for 5USD with taxi off to the airport.

Finally, quite nice for 4D/3N, but Jakarta or Manila is better. Just my Opinion. Somehow I click better with the Indon or Phi girls. The bedroom olympics and GFE is much better there.

A nice weekend to all of you!
Cheers!

Opebo
12-02-05, 14:12
Ekspat,
I also just got back a few days ago from a short trip to Phnom Penh, and I was quite disappointed. The place is certainly a shadow of its former self. The quantity and quality of girls at Martinis, Sharkeys, and Walkabout was awful compared to previous visits. It really was strange how few girls were out! Of the three, Sharkeys was the worst - the only attractive girls there appeared to be girlfriends of local expats.

I also had worse luck at Street 63 than before - both girls I tried from there refused the BBFS I requested. On previous visits I was able to get what I wanted, though of course not from every girl. The pimps were also even more unpleasant to deal with than before - one actually insisting I pay the $5 before sex. Once the girl found out in the room that I wanted bareback she kept trying to massage me, and afterwards there was no refund inspite of the lack of sex, because I had had a 'massage'. Very disappointing.

I did have several girls from Martinis - two Vietnamese and one Cambodian - during my visit that provided what I wanted, but all were in their early to mid-twenties and none were more attractive than what is available in Thailand, unlike before. Worse, the 3 or 4 doable girls at Martinis seemed to be asking $15 for short time. I ended up paying $15 for one, and $25 for the two Viets as a two-girl session. I don't know if I was bargaining badly, but the fact was even cute 20-25 year olds were in short supply - most of the women there seemed to be 30+!

I had visited PP just after K11 was closed - was it just last year? - and though I missed that wonderful place badly, there seemed to be enough other venues to make PP worth a visit. Now, alas, the old Shangri-La is missed even more, and on the whole I would not recommend visiting PP. I asked various taxi-men about the situation, and whether there was anything new that approximated K11 in another location, but they all said there wasn't, and implied that the missionaries were firmly in control - an analysis confirmed by my observations.

Member #1210
12-06-05, 04:31
I have heard that there is a new hotel just opened up which is across from NAVY massage on St. 63.

Has anyone stayed there? Does anyone know name, tel. no. website?

Ekspat
12-06-05, 08:16
The place is certainly a shadow of its former self. The quantity and quality of girls at Martinis, Sharkeys, and Walkabout was awful compared to previous visits.

Can't agree more.


The pimps were also even more unpleasant to deal with than before


Usually I don't visit 63rd for exactly that reason. I'm not interested at all dealing with greedy pimps.



I had visited PP just after K11 was closed - was it just last year? - and though I missed that wonderful place badly,

Yeah, I think last year was the final closing. But it's been a longer period from 2003 or even 2002 onwards, when the pressure increased. I visited it in 2001, when it was a real fun place. Girls playing badminton in the street, good mood everywhere, cold drinks and "Hello Missterrrr" all the time.

Anyway, looking forward to my next Jakarta trip now!
Cheers!

Sonic
12-07-05, 07:29
I visited Sakuru Hotel, it was quite nice. One guy said he gets a suite for $30 a night, that includes a nightly visit from one of the massage girls. I picked a petite massage girl from the front desk area, she was cute but I had to argue/bargain with her to get her price down to realistic levels.So it's $30 a night inclusive of a girl for the night? That's a good bargain. How does it work, do you ask for a girl who can do bbbj without moaning about it? (Last time I was in Cambodia 2.5 years ago, girls weren't keen on bbbj).

Lee66
12-08-05, 06:43
Yes, there is a new hotel there. It is called 'round the corner bar II', rooms are $10. It has well worn girls available, the girls go back and forth from bar round the corner I, just 30 meters from walkabout.

Lee66
12-08-05, 07:06
I've been here almost a week. martini, sharky, and walkabout went downhill since august or so. both quantity and quality. A lot of girls in martini disco are spending money on each other, as they got men sending them money, they also are getting picky and seem to like younger men. out of the disco, girls are trying to get dates, they are very fast so if you see one you want you have to go with her very soon or she will keep making rounds. there are no short time hotels near the new martini. street 271 is dirty has a few gems has viet girls and cambodia girls. but lighting is so bad you can hardly see the girl,. night time is dangerous. street 63 is hit or miss, as many girls are rotated from brothel to brothel. tuol kork is still happening but is also dirty and you can't see the girl in the room due to bad lighting. Kll is pretty well shut down. Now it is hard to find gfe in pp. but you can get plenty of service type girls.

Pak Mike
12-12-05, 15:29
Have had a chance to do the rounds of PP, and will have to concur with some previous posts that quality can be an issue. However, from my experience, it seems as if all the ladies are for sale, even those sweet innocent lasses in the more up market restaurants along the waterfront. They maintain the façade of respectability, however was offered on numerous occasions that if I’d like to come back when they finish (around 11-12 midnight), then “we could go dancing together”. Apart from these ”respectable” waitresses, most of these waterfront places had girls on the make for take-aways, just a case of sorting out a deal.

OK, to the places visited.

Sharky Bar: First place visited, arrived around 7:00 PM for a feed. A few ladies around, but nothing that took my eye. Had a reasonable pub meal, chatted to one young thing who sat herself down and did the usual crotch rub and massage routine. Exited after a while as nothing on the menu that really got the pulse pumping. Returned a second time a few days later, stayed about 5 minutes then took off, as nothing worth chasing.

Dingo Bar: Friendly girls, usual shoulder massage, nothing that really took my eye.

Shanghai Bar/Restaurant: A good place to hang out for a couple of hours in the evening with some nice friendly girls, including a couple of good lookers. Had some nice meals, and a good happy hour.

Soho2: Upstairs place, a bit of a dive with girls in very sexy nurses outfits (yes, seriously!!!). One particular young cutie caught my eye, was a bit slow on the uptake so missed this one. Went back a couple of nights later but she was not around.

The Golden Vine: Small bar with some very friendly girls, including some sweeties. A couple of them looked VERY young to me.

The Rose Bar: Turned out to be one of my favorites. Some nice girls, and a good place to hang out. Bar fine US$10 before 10 PM, US$5 after 10 PM.

Mikado: Just didn’t click with this place. Found the girls surly and disinterested. Got the standard crotch rub and “lets go upstairs” routine, but nothing I saw could get me scurrying up that staircase. Thought I would give the place a second go, but the girls were even more surly and disinterested on my second visit, so had one beer and departed. Besides that, on both occasions I was the only customer!

Cyrcee Club: Busy on both visits, and connected with a really hot young attractive Vietnamese. Upstairs with her little friend for a good session of BBBJ with both girls on the job, really nice, followed by some girl-girl action, then capped for a good cowgirl and finish with doggie. All in all, a good session. Not quite GFE, but a good session non the less.

So, a mixed bag generally, a good change of scene for me, but nowhere near the quality of Jakarta or Bangkok, although less traffic problems in PP.

Gohan39
12-14-05, 03:00
it seems as if all the ladies are for sale, even those sweet innocent lasses in the more up market restaurants along the waterfront. They maintain the façade of respectability, however was offered on numerous occasions that if I’d like to come back when they finish (around 11-12 midnight), then “we could go dancing together”.Are you sure these girls meant you would be having sex with them?

I had a similar chat with a waitress on the rooftop of the Flamingo's hotel. A very pretty 19yo cambodian girl who told me that she has and would be willing to go on a date with a guy like me who is her fathers age.

Shemade it clear that it would be okay for me to spend my money on her to take her out after work to places like disco's and resturants she could never afford to go on her income of $15. She was indirectly telling me this would be a date and no sex.

I think this might be the case with other girls working straight jobs that interact with tourists.

I didn't follow-up with her offer although she spoke good english and was pretty, with my limited time in town I was more interested in sex but I can see where some guys would want to do this .

Gohan39
12-15-05, 03:16
Was walking in the vacinity of the Navy club 2 weeks ago, 2 shops on both sides of the street (total of 4) just south on 63rd from Navy club had 8-12 viet girls in each place. Tip to girl up to you when completed.

Price was $10 short time on location, was later told by a trusted driver these are houses forced to relocate from K11. Price now $5 higher because cost of doing business in the city (payoffs are more to stay in business.)

Navy club charges $15 but saw no difference in quality of girls or rooms (that I experienced anyway.)

BTW these prices are what I was quoted and paid but could be less for those who are able negotiate a lower price.

Pak Mike
12-15-05, 14:48
[QUOTE=Gohan39]Are you sure these girls meant you would be having sex with them?

A few basic facts here: Any "good girl" will not be seen with a foreigner in a dance venue. A good girl will be home with mom and dad by 9:30. Parents would not knowingly allow their young daughter to work in a hotel, unless it is really upmarket (4-5 star) and with a good staff position and career prospects.

The reality in a place like PP is that many of the girls are not under parental control as have have come in from the provinces, so the 9:30 curfew no longer applies. However, for a stranger they have just met the "respectable" facade needs to be retained. Therefore, the "date and no sex" stance. This is for two reasons, allow all to save face if you are a complete jerk, and allows her to set limits if you humiliate her in public while dancing, as many westerners want to kiss, fondle in public. If you abide by the rules and do not step over the line in public, then you are on the way, but not on the first date. This way, the "I am a respectable girl " facade can be established. Get her trust, and not step over the line in public, then you are on the way for a GFE and full sex, but this will take time, probably two or three dates.

For me, works every time!

Now of course all of this does not apply to the girls "on-the-game", and they are of course so easy to spot in a place like PP.

Jaimito Cartero
12-17-05, 00:56
Just thought I'd post a quick note about the $0 fares (but add taxes and fuel surcharge of $15-$20 each way) from Bangkok to Phnom Penh and vice versa. Limited dates for booking, and of course, many days have no free seats available.

I booked a side trip in February, so will get to check out Cambodia for the first time.

www.airasia.com

That Asshole
12-19-05, 13:25
about dating a "regular" kanbo girl:

some members mentioned the subject of dating girls not into the "scene". my advice is: don't! for your own benefit and the benefit of all of us, just don't!

there are still enough brothels in cambodia to keep you satisfied every day. if there is a demand, there will be supply. however dating regular girls damages the scene as it will lose an important customer: you! it needs the support of all of us to survive.

i know if you come from a western country the current feminist pressure is very high on you to have a "regular" girl friend, not to visit brothels, respect women, adore and worship females in general, and so on... however please realise that it is nothing else but purposeful propaganda from your government and beyond.

it's mostly lies, you are being subjected to constant brainwashing until you are nothing but a program without free will of your own. if you fall for this, you will destroy your own future and will help to enslave all of us men even more.

why not stop, think and have a mind of your own? it is quite possible to have an excellent time without a cambodian (or any other) girl friend, just visiting brothels and casually fucking "exploited" women, considering them nothing else but fucking objects, a servant to you, your inferiors by nature.

the point is that you don't need to lick the anal region of someone your inferior for good service when you can buy it, use it and forget it, any day, any time.

forget what you have been brainwashed into back at home about the "loving" female heart, peace, happiness that comes from devotedly serving the women of your land. this is all crap, nothing but propaganda. you are being used to antagonise other men, to fight and blindly kill while you are being ruled from between your legs.

can't you get a good service from a ho that you hire like a library book? sure you can, even better than from a gf. it all just depends on the circumstances she is in. the lower she stands the better you look. why are you so keen to enslave yourself?

feminists operate by the principle of "divide and rule". turn men against each other by lies abd rule them all. women are not weak. they are strong. they don't need your protection. you need protection from them.

for example, what is this latest "****" scare? the ever politically correct 'lonely planet' calls it the "most disguisting trade of all that must be ended immediately". true, it might be disguisting and of course we disagree with it and it makes us angry. but it must be realised that this again is being used to create another political tool against men, against you too, whether you do it or not. you are being programmed to fight, to kill blindly.

your real enemy is not the "****s" or other evil men but the feminists who are calling you to "holy war" against your own kind. yes, the issue is disguisting. we are being manipulated like puppets.

or look at the current wars. yes, there are big profits made from blood. it's no secret the wars are for money. but where will most of that money end up if not in pearls and diamonds around some wrinkly neck and in cellulite treatments, etc? either for american women or some iraqui women or israeli (or who knows). all in the name of "love" of course. ("because i love you darling, and if you love me too, you will give me.........")

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so, when looking for a non-pro cambo (or any other national) gf, think again. who will you join, who are you supporting? are you not digging your own grave?

why don't you go to a brothel instead for the good of all.

Lubricate It
12-19-05, 14:22
HT
What is the meaning of life? You are truly one of the great philosophers of this board. If only there were more like you...

Hermescali
12-19-05, 18:26
about dating a "regular" kanbo girl:

some members mentioned the subject of dating girls not into the "scene". my advice is: don't! for your own benefit and the benefit of all of us, just don't!

there are still enough brothels in cambodia to keep you satisfied every day. if there is a demand, there will be supply. however dating regular girls damages the scene as it will lose an important customer: you! it needs the support of all of us to survive.

i know if you come from a western country the current feminist pressure is very high on you to have a "regular" girl friend, not to visit brothels, respect women, adore and worship females in general, and so on... however please realise that it is nothing else but purposeful propaganda from your government and beyond.

it's mostly lies, you are being subjected to constant brainwashing until you are nothing but a program without free will of your own. if you fall for this, you will destroy your own future and will help to enslave all of us men even more.

why not stop, think and have a mind of your own? it is quite possible to have an excellent time without a cambodian (or any other) girl friend, just visiting brothels and casually fucking "exploited" women, considering them nothing else but fucking objects, a servant to you, your inferiors by nature.

the point is that you don't need to lick the anal region of someone your inferior for good service when you can buy it, use it and forget it, any day, any time.

forget what you have been brainwashed into back at home about the "loving" female heart, peace, happiness that comes from devotedly serving the women of your land. this is all crap, nothing but propaganda. you are being used to antagonise other men, to fight and blindly kill while you are being ruled from between your legs.

can't you get a good service from a ho that you hire like a library book? sure you can, even better than from a gf. it all just depends on the circumstances she is in. the lower she stands the better you look. why are you so keen to enslave yourself?

feminists operate by the principle of "divide and rule". turn men against each other by lies abd rule them all. women are not weak. they are strong. they don't need your protection. you need protection from them.

for example, what is this latest "****" scare? the ever politically correct 'lonely planet' calls it the "most disguisting trade of all that must be ended immediately". true, it might be disguisting and of course we disagree with it and it makes us angry. but it must be realised that this again is being used to create another political tool against men, against you too, whether you do it or not. you are being programmed to fight, to kill blindly.

your real enemy is not the "****s" or other evil men but the feminists who are calling you to "holy war" against your own kind. yes, the issue is disguisting. we are being manipulated like puppets.

or look at the current wars. yes, there are big profits made from blood. it's no secret the wars are for money. but where will most of that money end up if not in pearls and diamonds around some wrinkly neck and in cellulite treatments, etc? either for american women or some iraqui women or israeli (or who knows). all in the name of "love" of course. ("because i love you darling, and if you love me too, you will give me.........")

----------------------------------------------------------------

so, when looking for a non-pro cambo (or any other national) gf, think again. who will you join, who are you supporting? are you not digging your own grave?

why don't you go to a brothel instead for the good of all.just have a girlfriend and go to brothels, that is the best of two worlds

Lorenz
12-22-05, 09:12
Who knows where to buy the Blue Pill in PP?

(also the asiatic versions as Vigora, Caverta, Camagra, and so on....)

Do they want a prescription?

How much do the pills cost?

Matt Navan Man
12-24-05, 12:11
Who knows where to buy the Blue Pill in PP?

(also the asiatic versions as Vigora, Caverta, Camagra, and so on....)

Do they want a prescription?

How much do the pills cost?Any and all of them are widely available! There are pharmacy's on virtually every corner. If you want true original Pfizer Viagra the Penn Vong pharmacy around the middle of Sihanouk Boulevard has it and it's legit as their Pharmacist trained in France.

Not sure about the exact cost but it won't put much of a dent in your wallet.

Forever69
12-25-05, 11:32
At the pharmacie! ask for v tab and check out other brands. A buck per bang.
I went to one at the corner of 51 st where you turn for Mikado/Lacyrcee.

Tazzy Devil
12-25-05, 11:47
Who knows where to buy the Blue Pill in PP?

(also the asiatic versions as Vigora, Caverta, Camagra, and so on....)

Do they want a prescription?

How much do the pills cost?No prescription required when I bought some Kamagra in November.

I paid $1 for the Kamagra gel & $2 for a pack of 4 Kamagra pills.

Ljohnson
12-26-05, 07:35
Lorenz -

In July I bought both Kamagra and Zeagra at a pharmacy in PP. No prescription required. I paid $6 USD for a pack of four.

My driver, Neak Yorn, took me to a pharmacy that sold them. It was easy. I think most pharmacy's in PP carry them.

LJohnson

Lorenz
12-26-05, 10:41
There are many copies of the blue Pill, which accordingly to you is working the best?

I tried Caverta (not very good) and Vigora (quite good but not like the original one)

What is your experience with Zeagra Kamagra, and so on?

Ljohnson
12-28-05, 19:25
The only such pills I have ever used are the Kamagra and Zeagra I bought in Phnom Penh, so I cannot compare them to anything else. As for the K- and the Z- I cannot tell the difference. I use them interchangeably; and they work. I don't get a hardon unless I'm stimulated, but when I do, it stays hard for as long as I want it to. Works for me.

LJ

Phantomtiger2
12-28-05, 23:43
Quick questions.
Read some post suggesting LT with cambo gal on premises?--Ive been to Thailand and familiar with LT meaning bringing gals back to your hotel for entire nite.
So whats the advantage of LT on premises since Im assuming everyones already got a hotel room for the nite.
Only exceptions I could think of are:
1) the LT place offered is actually better than your own hotel room.
2)the LT rate on the premises is alot cheaper than taking the gal out.

Any bros with experiences with this?
PT

Bamboozeld
12-31-05, 05:35
Hello there guys..

Recently been in Siem Reap & Phonm Penh for 10 days on business. Let me start with Siem Reap. Nothing much going on unless you like to pick up girls by the alley which is cheap but not that very promissing or you might wanna hang by the local karaoke joints with 'aquariums' in it. But too much cash is required and bear in mind, business here uses USD. It's still cheap but not that worth it when seeing how these karaoke joints look like. Massage places here are good. Very relaxing but sorry to say, most of the places i've been to does not ofer any hanky panky services. Maybe i'm being too cheapskate and not aquiring the VIP rooms available. So, Siem Reap has not been that fun to me. After 5 days in Siem Reap, went off to Phonm Penh by road.

It took me 4 1/2 hours to reach Phonm Penh and i tought it's gonna be even worst in Phonm Penh. Hmmm... NOT. The are many scene in Phonm Penh. Bars, karaoke joints, massage parlours, street ladies and etc. Well, after reading much in the forum, decided to visit Sophies Bar. Not that easy to find this club. My tuk-tuk need to ask for directions 4 times!

First arriving there i was shocked coz the palce is very scary! i remembered what other forrumers say and i just took all my guts and proceeded in the bar. It was a scary looking bar from the outside and the inside. Butthe best part is, the GIRLS! Went in and sat on the chair. Was about to place an order, my pants was off. I was surrounded by almost 7 girls. Once i ordered, the famos coke arived, i can feel something sucking my dick! My god, they were showing off their skills! Couldn't wait, i really like to have a little porn star action, decided to take 2 girls and bbbj at the bar while beeing watched by the other girls! Wow! Good sucking motion by both of my girls! Shot my load CIM and was really satisfied.

Damage report, well $5 for a girl bbbj at the bar. So $10 for two girls and $2 for the coke. Well worth it. If you wanna use the 'room' and to whatever you wanna do, it'll cost you $10 for the room and another $10 for the girls. Quality of the girls are ok.. some are very good in 'quality' but there are some which would just be wasting their time there.

Other scene... the bars. Well almost any bar you go to there is this term used called 'bar fine'. You walk into a bar, see someone you like and then bar fine her with a cost of $5. You can bring her anywhere as your companioin and later on negotiate if you want more. Be careful brothers coz some of them are ripp-oofs. The get them to bar fine and then slowly get you to spend money on them and their friends. It depends on your luck wheather you get a good one or not. And please do bring your own protection if you decided to whack them. Hehehe.. a bit cruel word to use. Remember, there are only after your money.. Have a good time!!!

Gohan39
12-31-05, 13:55
Quick questions.

Read some post suggesting LT with cambo gal on premises?--Ive been to Thailand and familiar with LT meaning bringing gals back to your hotel for entire nite.
So whats the advantage of LT on premises since Im assuming everyones already got a hotel room for the nite.

Only exceptions I could think of are:

1) the LT place offered is actually better than your own hotel room.

2)the LT rate on the premises is alot cheaper than taking the gal out.

Any bros with experiences with this?

PTNot sure about the on premesis part, I would guess you would spend the night there.

A note about my experience with most girls I have taken long time.
taking a babe LT appears to be a good idea initially but alot of these girls are great actors and show a great attitude when you 1st meet them.

Usually ends up as a regrettable experience. Most of the time after the 1st round the girl wants to split or acts like she is too tired and wants to sleep ect.Basically acting up and making me mad.

When this happened I always end up giving them what they obviously wanted
an early exit time.They win and I lose.

For me going st is the best deal, maybe also for the girl.

Lorenz
12-31-05, 14:06
Right!

Sophie Club is not easy to find, is on a first floor and u have to pass by a very dirty and scaring alleym but once you are in! wow, they are really nice, not able to order the beer and they were already working on my little friend! I had 4 of them sucking but there were other customers (about 3) so I decided to go in the room. Thje price is 10 usd (room included u do not have to pay more for it!) I had 2 girls in the room, not too bad and they were both really cutes!!! It worths!

if you do not want to pay the bar fine you can go to Sharkey, Heart of Darkness or Walkabout.

Enjoy!

Coma Boy
01-01-06, 07:38
taking a babe LT... usually ends up as a regrettable experience.Perhaps that's your own fault.

I've never had problems taking Phnom Penh girls LT.

Perhaps they just don't like you.

Asian Rain
01-01-06, 08:30
Most of the time after the 1st round the girl wants to split or acts like she is too tired and wants to sleep ect.
In my experience, most girls expectation for LT is that there will be a session in the evening, followed by sleep and then a pop in the morning. They don't expect to be pumped non-stop till morning IMHO.

I used to prefer a sleepover, but now cut the girl loose after one shot. If I am interested in another pop or another friend, I will arrange for a girl to come back the following morning. Last time I was travelling with a friend. We both had girls at Martini, but I met another dark beauty and gave her my hotel card and told her to visit me in the morning.

We returned back with our girls and had a great time. After we finished my girl then offered to bring the girl that I met the next morning. She came right on time the next morning with my dark beauty... I asked her to wait in my friend's room while I did the dark beauty... of course my friend ended up getting a nice unexpected morning shag too.

This will generally only work within ethnic groups - the girls we had were all from the Khmer group. Enjoy, AR+

Goderos
01-05-06, 11:00
dear members,


could anyone suggest a way to get from vietnam (HCMC) or hanoi TO Cambodia (PP)? I need to know as I leave soon. ANY suggestions would be appreaciated. I am a little clueless as will be my firts time in Cambo. I realize it would be easier to get here from BKK. But that is not the option for me this time. So how do i get to HCMC-PP. Any ideas?

Goderos
01-05-06, 11:10
In my experience, most girls expectation for LT is that there will be a session in the evening, followed by sleep and then a pop in the morning. They don't expect to be pumped non-stop till morning IMHO.

I used to prefer a sleepover, but now cut the girl loose after one shot. If I am interested in another pop or another friend, I will arrange for a girl to come back the following morning. Last time I was travelling with a friend. We both had girls at Martini, but I met another dark beauty and gave her my hotel card and told her to visit me in the morning.

We returned back with our girls and had a great time. After we finished my girl then offered to bring the girl that I met the next morning. She came right on time the next morning with my dark beauty... I asked her to wait in my friend's room while I did the dark beauty... of course my friend ended up getting a nice unexpected morning shag too.

This will generally only work within ethnic groups - the girls we had were all from the Khmer group. Enjoy, AR+


I agree. That is a good tip AR. I'd do the same bang one before sleeping and bang a different one in the morning. But there are a lot of hobbyist that would prefer the real genuine GFE. Spent some time with a hot girl that is only there for you and you alone. Makes you feel special and gives you sexual pleasure. Prob. wanting to take them away to a deserted island and make hot wild love to her etc..etc.. . Its not easy to find especially if you are doing a P4P. Its hard for the girls to blur the line between occupation and reality.
In reality you both have fear and reservation about the other. I mean you just met a person. Who knows what is real what is fantasy. Who is telling the truth and who is faking it etc..etc.. .
I guess as long as its a win-win. She happy and you are happy then it works. But in the end, someone normally gets the shorter end of stick. That's just life.

Seraphim7
01-05-06, 13:05
dear members,

Could anyone suggest a way to get from vietnam (HCMC) or hanoi TO Cambodia (PP)? I need to know as I leave soon. ANY suggestions would be appreaciated. I am a little clueless as will be my firts time in Cambo. I realize it would be easier to get here from BKK. But that is not the option for me this time. So how do i get to HCMC-PP. Any ideas?From Hanoi you can fly with Vietnam Airlines via Lao every day. From HCMC you can fly every day also [less than an hour as its only 240k], or get the bus. Cheap busses cost about $6, the larger and better busses about $10 [if you buy from the bus company - more if you get an agent to book] The big bus takes about 5 hours on a mostly good road, and the more expensive bus will collect your passports and walk you through the border crossing on VN side. You need to go and pay for the Cambo visa [$20] yourself but they will do the rest. You can also get a bus partway and then a fast boat for the last hour which is a bit quicker as the last bit of the trip is on a narrow road.

Shadow6491
01-06-06, 00:38
Goderos,

You can either take a bus real easy takes all day costs about $15 or you can fly takes about 1 hour costs $?

Avanza088
01-06-06, 08:05
Bro, heard Phnom Penh models go for usd 100 per nite. Anyone knows where can I get access?

Fast Eddie 48
01-07-06, 04:45
Bro, heard Phnom Penh models go for usd 100 per nite. Anyone knows where can I get access?


to avanza088

You are crazy if you paid usd 100 for a girl at pp . there is no girl that comand
that kind of money if you want model you should go to bangkok ktv not pp.


fast eddie 48

Patterson
01-11-06, 10:24
That price is ridiculas.

From $5 to $30 max for LT with top girl.

Coma Boy
01-12-06, 05:13
Why wouldn't PP's top girls charge 100 USD? It is far from being a ridiculous assumption.

There have to be some high-end girls somewhere in town. I've never come across them but so far I've only hung out in the usual places.

Where do the rich Khymer dudes go for action?

Avanza088
01-12-06, 11:15
Bro,

I was at Phnom Penh last 3 days. Hardly had any action. Sigh, I must feel like the loser of the century. The only place I got was at the FCC. Managed to chat up an 18 y. O. Aussie bird, and we ended up wif the best 3 days FR a very long time. * smiling*

Cocoroso
01-12-06, 12:14
Coma boy.
I have been to every famous pick up places in PP and quoted to pay 25 for L/T. There is no club or high-society style places that you can see the variety of prices and quality. So, no 100 USD girls.
Pay as you asked for S/T or L/T with tips such as 30 + 3

Coma Boy
01-12-06, 14:31
What about the girls who do modelling for marketing campaigns, hot promiscuous students, etcetera?

Surely some of these girls occassionally moonlight at relatively expensive karaokes/ hostess bars/ escort-agencies for rich Khymer guys, or something, sometimes, somewhere.

I mean there must be some super hot chicks in Phnom Penh who are that way inclined and they must work somewhere. Spotting a hotty at HoD, Shanghai, Rose Bar, Walkabout, etcetera, is extremely rare, there must be some somewhere.

It can't all be cheap and nasty.

Not that I mind cheap and nasty.