PDA

View Full Version : 2002-2006 Phnom Penh



Pages : 1 2 3 4 [5] 6

Fast Eddie 48
01-12-06, 20:06
Why wouldn't PP's top girls charge 100 USD? It is far from being a ridiculous assumption.

There have to be some high-end girls somewhere in town. I've never come across them but so far I've only hung out in the usual places.

Where do the rich Khymer dudes go for action?


to coma boy

To answer your question because no one is stupid enough to pay 100 usd
for a girl in pp just simple as that , the khmer dude are cheaper than the
tourist they don't even pay 10 usd .

fast eddie 48

Coma Boy
01-13-06, 04:43
But there must be at least one hot hooker in a town of over one million people!

Hollow Man
01-13-06, 05:06
I cruised Phnom Penh for 2 months and my driver/guide told me that the the singers and models on TV and stage could be had for $500 - $1000. But these are actual TV actresses.

Firedick
01-13-06, 08:21
...Where do the rich Khymer dudes go for action?

Las Vegas ? :)

BartonJunk
01-14-06, 22:44
Hi,

This is a report from a trip a couple of months ago. Sorry, just been too busy.

I went to PP for 3 days. While KM11 was dead, I was still hoping to find good poontang. I'm usually not into orientals (have a preference for caucasians), but I thought I would give it a try in this (in)famous city.

So first night when I arrived, I asked the driver to take me to the new hotel that everyone had written about that was close to the action. when I got there, in the lobby, there were these old ladies sittin there! I felt very uncomfortable, imagine taking a girl or two back and have these old ladies watch you. They may have been NGO's for all I know. Anyway smelling trouble, I asked the taxi driver to take my luggage back and I settled for another hotel not too far away, where it was much more comfortable, with middle aged guys having these little oriental things on their arms.

Then I spoke to my driver to find me a girl for the night (was too tired to go out exploring on my own.) He found me one tiny little oriental who did everything I wanted -- including OWO, rimming, CIM, etc. She was very tight, didn't understand english, but knew exactly what yumyum and boomboom meant. So all in all a good way to start the trip.

The next day I did sightseeing all day, and was too tired for mongering. So I called it a night.

3rd night I decided I should check out some action, and my driver took me to Sharkey's. He kept trying to discourage me from Martini's for some strange reason. But I didn't like the girls at Sharkey's (they seemed too old and used up.) So I insisted on Martini's. At Martini's I hit gold. There were so many delectable little things there, it was difficult to decide. then this one girl approached me - just the kind I was looking for -- petite, but that little bit of cleavage that will give my hands something to play with. So I took her to the hotel, and did everything. Lots of oral, rimming, just the way I like it. And lots of cuddling. She was cute and kept telling me her life story. After a couple of hours I kicked her out since I had to get up early to fly out the next day. Total damage $10 + $2tip. And she left happy.

All in all, not too bad an experience. I still like caucasians, but having sampled the goods, may return back one day to this land of pussy.

-Bart

Wendella
01-24-06, 08:23
So does anyone know what the deal is at this M2? It's in the Holiday International Hotel, north side of town. How does it work there? And what is the quality of the girls?

Now I also see on the website for that hotel that the Manhattan Club disco is open -- but not sure if this is just outdated information on their website or if it really is opened again. It had been closed since a shooting took place there more than a year ago (maybe 2 yrs ago).

Jaimito Cartero
02-09-06, 14:44
I'm flying in from Bangkok for my first visit to Phnom Penh. I'll be staying at the Flamingo if anyone is around.

Goderos
02-09-06, 16:04
how long are you there for. i will be there closer to the end of the month. would love to buy you a beer or two and swap some stories. msg me if anyone want to meet up for a drink. cheers!

Jaimito Cartero
02-09-06, 22:40
I'm only going to be there for 5 days. It doesn't sound like our dates match up.

Rabagast
02-10-06, 09:55
I am in Town for some days 10th to 14th. Should we meat and have a beer or tree and share some stories?

Jaimito Cartero
02-11-06, 05:30
Well, as it was my first day, I thought I'd explore a bit. Walked around town, and I'd say that they're certainly impressed by big guys. All I got was "Oooooh!". I only made 3 small children cry though, far below my average. :)

I went to Sophie's at about 11pm. I took a moto driver from the Flamingos since I hadn't been there before. It's certainly an experience driving down a dark street on a little moto. It has good signs out front of Sophies, just go up the lighted stair, and it's on your left hand side.

I went in and there were at least a dozen ladies there. I got swarmed, and a few had their hands up my shorts within seconds. A few were pulling up their tops, and showing me their pussies.

I'm into cleanliness, so I started to give their pussies the finger sniff test. A couple were pretty bad, and I only had one that smelled clean. I took her to the room for yum-yum. 20 yo, slim, b cup tits. Good service, a bit of fake moaning and such. I got one photo of her, but she was freaked out about it, so I won't be posting it.

She did ask for a drink once we got out, and I told her she could have a drink or a tip. She chose the latter.

Afterwards I walked over to Sharkeys and watched them play pool and I had some food. I thought the food very good, and the atmosphere was relaxed. Good music on, but not so loud you couldn't hear anyone.

I then walked back to Flamingos and hit the sack.

General impression for the first day - Everyone quite friendly. A few kids on the street asking for money, but only one mildly aggressive. At one point in the late afternoon, I was resting on a bench in a residential area. About 5 kids came up and just started talking to me (7-11 yo). Then another 10 kids came up. All were polite, and interested in talking to me. The one who was the best english speaker did ask me for money when I was leaving, but he was pretty cool about it. (He could identify my pics of the Sydney opera house, Korean Airlines plane, so smarter than most of the people I know...)

So far, the local ladies look a bit better than the Thai ladies. Heart of Darkness is open again, so I'll probably check it out tonight.

Goderos
02-16-06, 12:12
thanks for the update JC. you are a trooper. posting while on the field. lol! btw,
how much are you paying a nigth for Flamingo's? And what are the rooms like? Enjoy the rest of your stay...!

Billy Baht
02-16-06, 15:21
Air Asia flight FD 3612 descended from the 15,000 feet cruising altitude and made the final approach to Phnom Penh’s International Airport. We deplaned and made the short walk into the airport, proceeding to the Visa on Arrival section. Previously I had attempted to get my Tourist Visa at the Cambodian Embassy in Bangkok, but they required two pass port photo copies; two photos and and the Visa application in duplicate. Screw that, I decided to take my chances at the airport-which turned out to be the correct decision. The Air Asia flight attendants passed out the Visa applications, which I completed in-flight; on arrival I simply handed over my passport and paid $20 USD when I collected it 15 minutes later.

I had pre-booked a room with airport pick up from Flamingo’s Hotel and sure enough, their driver was there holding a placard with my name on it. Oh yes, immediately after customs declaration were two ATMs; I inserted my ATM card (US bank), punched in $200 and out popped two $50; three $20 and four $10 crisp US bank notes. No transaction fees either.

Flamingos was about a 20 minute ride from the airport. Checked in to my $20 standard room, ate the (small) complimentary breakfast, and then took a walk to stretch my legs. Phnom Penh can be a bit dusty with litter everywhere, but the people seemed peaceful and always returned my smile.

Back at the hotel I napped a bit, ate dinner on Flamingo’s roof top bar/restaurant. I ordered Cordon Bleu and a draft Anchor. Total cost: $5.75. First stop was the Shanghai Bar just across the street from Flamingos. Chillymonkey’s excellent report sums up the Shanghai quite well; there is a $5 bar fine and a local expat explained that you must make it clear to the girl before bar fining her that you are interested in sex-some girls pretend to be “good girls.” FYI. I never bar fined a girl from Shanghai, but I’ll wager that $10 to $20 would be a fair price.

Next I was off to Sophie’s. They lock the door, so I assumed they were closed, as I was walking away, a girl opened the door and dragged me inside. Quality is so-so, but I wasn’t there to find a wife, if you know what I mean… I ordered a $2 Anchor and the girls swarmed around me, doing their best to undo my trousers. I settled on one babe and went to the short time room. Full service including BBBJ, $10.

Next I hailed a moto dop (motorcycle) to Sharkys. I always bargain -in a friendly way- and most of my solo trips were two or three thousand real. (One $1 US = four thousand Riel) If I had a babe with me then of course a dollar was expected and I happily paid.

I liked Sharky’s but some of the girls are a bit hard sell, especially the Vietnamese. IMHO, some of the Vietnamese girls had lovely faces, but I found myself more attracted to the wide hipped Khmer girls. Just a personal thing, but that’s why they make chocolate and vanilla. The best hunting at Sharky’s is from 8 PM to midnight. I didn’t see anything I was particularly into so I bailed out for the Walk About Bar, just a four minute walk from the Flamingo Hotel. Walk About never closes and the place is usually full of freelancers. There is also another bar above the WA and it is a little less crowded, but still has a few freelancers around.

Feeling tired, I went back to the hotel, alone, to sleep it off. Got up the next day, had the complimentary breakfast, then when to the S21 prison (Tuol Sleng.) My god, what a depressing place! Of the 20,000 inmates incarcerated, only a handful survived when the Vietnamese Army invaded and kicked the Khmer Rough’s butts in 1979. The KR were very meticulous about documenting and photographing their prisoners. The inmate’s photos were haunting and -strangely enough- most of the victims were themselves Khmer Rouge, who were denounced by their fellow comrades. I left and ordered several cool Angkor beers at the Walk About Bar.

Later that night, I went to the famous Martinis. Interesting place, large courtyard with movies and food available. They have an inside disco where most of the pairing up occurs. At the outside bar a Khmer girl, wide hipped of course, came on to me and I asked her price. “Up to you!” Me “no, tell me your price.” “Up to you Darling.” OK, I took her back to the hotel and did the dead-she wasn’t bad either. Then she said she wanted to go back to Martini’s to “dance.” Whatever, so I handed her $10. Her, “No, $20!” Me, “No, you say up to me and up to me is $10 short time. If you tell me $20 short time, I never take you Darling.” She thinks a bit then says, “OK, $5 more.” I give her $1 for motto dop and nudge her towards the door. She smiles, says thanks and leaves. Actually, I think $10 all night is doable, but more and more -unless I know the girl- I prefer short time.

I hit the sack and dreamt about Sihanoukville…

Stew2
02-17-06, 02:31
Hey Billy, or anyone else in the know,
I was thinking aboutusing Air Asia. Do you have to get out and push it down the runway? I checked prices for this May/June, and was being quoted $5 one way from Bangkok to Phnom Penh. Can that be real on a real airplane that stays aloft?

Billy Baht
02-17-06, 03:27
Hey Billy, or anyone else in the know,

I was thinking aboutusing Air Asia. Do you have to get out and push it down the runway? I checked prices for this May/June, and was being quoted $5 one way from Bangkok to Phnom Penh. Can that be real on a real airplane that stays aloft?Hey Stew,

Air Asia is ok, the bird I flew on was a Boeing 737. With AA, booking far in advance or during their frequent promotions will definately save you money. They raise their prices for "last minute" departures. Remember that they will add fuel, tax and insurance to the base price. Bring your own water, because ALL inflight refreshments are provided at additional cost.

If you decide to cancel your trip, they do not give refunds.

On the other hand, I would definately fly with them again.

Billy Baht

PS-Flight tip: try to be the last person on the bus (to the plane.) That ensures you will be one of the first to board and find a suitable seat. AA does not assign seats. FYI.

Ekspat
02-17-06, 03:45
I was thinking aboutusing Air Asia. Do you have to get out and push it down the runway? I checked prices for this May/June, and was being quoted $5 one way from Bangkok to Phnom Penh. Can that be real on a real airplane that stays aloft?

That is okay, sometimes they offer such prices. I also had already return tickets KL-JKT for 20USD. In such cases the airport tax is more than the ticket.
The plane is an older 737, rented somewhere. I don't feel that great in there, but so far everything was fine.
Can't wait until they get their 100 brandnew airbuses, what AA is avertising with.

Enjoy!

Goderos
02-17-06, 16:53
wow! 2 FR on PP i two days. Thanks BB and JC. cra
I have flown Air Asia before. It's definitely economy-lowfare airlines. It isn't that bad for shorter journeys. Actually that's all the plane can fly. I think the planes they use are only for 4 hour flights or less. It's no frills. And you never know who you may have to cramp in with.
the low prices are best if you book way in advance. but even if you book a few days ahead, chances are the prices are less than competition.
Can someone PM me the Flamingo contact info. Would like to make a reso and get airport pickup. Thanks you.
If there is any other suggestion for hotels please PM me. Thanks in advance.

Billy Baht
02-18-06, 10:02
Hey Billy, or anyone else in the know,
I was thinking aboutusing Air Asia. Do you have to get out and push it down the runway? I checked prices for this May/June, and was being quoted $5 one way from Bangkok to Phnom Penh. Can that be real on a real airplane that stays aloft?Yes, the planes are fine, used Boeing 737s and the leg room is not too bad if you are tall. Air Asia has some great deals if you can book in advance and/or take advantage of their frequent promotions. They have increased their fuel, tax and insurance charges, so that will increase your ticket price somewhat.

Air Asia is so easy to book online and since all of their tickets are electronic, just go to the Air Asia counter and present your passport (or you can print out a ticket) and, bingo, you are on board!

No free inflight drinks, so bring your own water. FYI.

Billy Baht

Member #3401
02-18-06, 23:45
Which terminal does Air Asia leave from in Bangkok? Does anyone know whether the cloak room is open early morning in the Bangkok Airport?

Stew2
02-20-06, 02:50
Thanks for all the input guys. I can see more clearly now that air asia will cost more with thetax, but it is still a real bargain.

Does anyone know the best way to move about within the following - I am planning to start in Thailand, go to Phnom Penh and then Siem Reap, and then move on to Vietnam... the order doesn;t matter, except for starting in Bangkok. Some airlines go to one place and not another... any suggestions to make the searching easy?

Thanks in advance
Stew

Billy Baht
02-20-06, 03:36
Which terminal does Air Asia leave from in Bangkok? Does anyone know whether the cloak room is open early morning in the Bangkok Airport?Blik2,

Air Asia is in terminal one. The Phnom Penh flight I was on was FD3612, gate 71. From the gate, you take a bus to the plane, so it helps to be at a bus exit door because first off the bus equals first choice of seats. (First bus that is)

Stew2,

No suggestions buddy, but you might try to Google your travel plans and see what information pops up. Also, try reading or posting in Lonely Planets "Thorn Tree" section. A lot of actual travel experiences there.

Good luck,

Billy Baht

Goderos
02-20-06, 14:27
Thanks for all the input guys. I can see more clearly now that air asia will cost more with thetax, but it is still a real bargain.

Does anyone know the best way to move about within the following - I am planning to start in Thailand, go to Phnom Penh and then Siem Reap, and then move on to Vietnam... the order doesn;t matter, except for starting in Bangkok. Some airlines go to one place and not another... any suggestions to make the searching easy?

Thanks in advance
Stew

you might consider BKK to siam reap first then proceed PP. I believe it is 5 hours bus ride for SR to PP. as it should be easier to get to HCMC from PP. There are post on how to get there here. There are many busses and busses/boat combination to get to Vietnam from PP. There will also be lots of agents to get info. I will be making a similar pilgrimage. Will let you know how it goes. Thinking of seeing the mekong on the way from PP to HCMC. If anyone has done this before, I would appreciate some info.... thanks in advance.
Can post or PM me. Also where does one go in Mekong as I know it's a long river. And are there hotel recommendation.

Dinghy
02-21-06, 22:09
5 hours on a bus on somewhat bumpy roads - IF not crowded, no problem. If yu take the 7 am bus, you get in at 12, just in time to catch the southbound bus to snooky.

The PP bus station is right next to the main market. The bus to snooky stops at the airport if you care...

Jaimito Cartero
02-21-06, 22:49
No free inflight drinks, so bring your own water. FYI.

Actually, they have signs saying you can't bring any drinks or food on at all. The drinks are pretty cheap, so I wouldn't worry about it too much. I got a sandwich and a water for 80 or 120 baht.

Considering that I paid $35 RT (including taxes) during their "free" sale, I figure I did pretty good.

Jaimito Cartero
02-21-06, 23:09
It sounds like we did about the same trip, at least for the first few days. I got nobody from Flamingo's with my name on it though. They were picking up a couple of other guys (but the van was overheated), and the taxi drivers were trying to tell me that they were gone already.

I had booked a couple of months ago, but had sent a reminder a few days before I went. Maybe they forgot.

At Martini's, the girl tried the "Up to you" line, and I told her how much I payed, $10. She asked for $20, but I stuck firm. One other girl had asked for $25, and wouldn't budge. Time to move on.

I found a little massage place over by Heart of Darkness. $3 an hour, pretty good quality, though the mattress looked pretty crappy. At the end she pantomined a HJ or a BJ. She wanted $10 for a BJ, so I passed on that. She was pretty worn out!

I found the Russian market was pretty good place for buying stuff. I stayed away from the imported Thai stuff, but found most of the stuff there to be 20-40% less than Thailand. Wooden items, buddhist stuff and clothing seemed to be in great abundance, and cheap. Just don't buy from the first shop you go to, price shop a bit.

They had a software and DVD section. Didn't seem like a great deal, so I passed on those.

I went into Shanghai, but wasn't sure of the low down there. I politely inquired into takeaway, and just got a "no" from the one girl. Saw a decent Viet chica in Walkabout, but she wanted $20 for ST. No thanks.

I'll post some pics here later this week.

If you really need local currency, you can get 4060 or 4070 to the dollar at little kiosks around town.

Flamingo's charges 3% if you want to pay by credit card. Decent breakfast and free internet. I left a little money on the table, as a test (with other papers), and it disappeared, so I'd be careful about leaving stuff out in the open. (about 2000 riel, not much at all)


Air Asia flight FD 3612 descended from the 15,000 feet cruising altitude and made the final approach to Phnom Penh’s International Airport. We deplaned and made the short walk into the airport, proceeding to the Visa on Arrival section. Previously I had attempted to get my Tourist Visa at the Cambodian Embassy in Bangkok, but they required two pass port photo copies; two photos and and the Visa application in duplicate. Screw that, I decided to take my chances at the airport-which turned out to be the correct decision. The Air Asia flight attendants passed out the Visa applications, which I completed in-flight; on arrival I simply handed over my passport and paid $20 USD when I collected it 15 minutes later.

I had pre-booked a room with airport pick up from Flamingo’s Hotel and sure enough, their driver was there holding a placard with my name on it. Oh yes, immediately after customs declaration were two ATMs; I inserted my ATM card (US bank), punched in $200 and out popped two $50; three $20 and four $10 crisp US bank notes. No transaction fees either.

Flamingos was about a 20 minute ride from the airport. Checked in to my $20 standard room, ate the (small) complimentary breakfast, and then took a walk to stretch my legs. Phnom Penh can be a bit dusty with litter everywhere, but the people seemed peaceful and always returned my smile.

Back at the hotel I napped a bit, ate dinner on Flamingo’s roof top bar/restaurant. I ordered Cordon Bleu and a draft Anchor. Total cost: $5.75. First stop was the Shanghai Bar just across the street from Flamingos. Chillymonkey’s excellent report sums up the Shanghai quite well; there is a $5 bar fine and a local expat explained that you must make it clear to the girl before bar fining her that you are interested in sex-some girls pretend to be “good girls.” FYI. I never bar fined a girl from Shanghai, but I’ll wager that $10 to $20 would be a fair price.

Next I was off to Sophie’s. They lock the door, so I assumed they were closed, as I was walking away, a girl opened the door and dragged me inside. Quality is so-so, but I wasn’t there to find a wife, if you know what I mean… I ordered a $2 Anchor and the girls swarmed around me, doing their best to undo my trousers. I settled on one babe and went to the short time room. Full service including BBBJ, $10.

Next I hailed a moto dop (motorcycle) to Sharkys. I always bargain -in a friendly way- and most of my solo trips were two or three thousand real. (One $1 US = four thousand Riel) If I had a babe with me then of course a dollar was expected and I happily paid.

I liked Sharky’s but some of the girls are a bit hard sell, especially the Vietnamese. IMHO, some of the Vietnamese girls had lovely faces, but I found myself more attracted to the wide hipped Khmer girls. Just a personal thing, but that’s why they make chocolate and vanilla. The best hunting at Sharky’s is from 8 PM to midnight. I didn’t see anything I was particularly into so I bailed out for the Walk About Bar, just a four minute walk from the Flamingo Hotel. Walk About never closes and the place is usually full of freelancers. There is also another bar above the WA and it is a little less crowded, but still has a few freelancers around.

Feeling tired, I went back to the hotel, alone, to sleep it off. Got up the next day, had the complimentary breakfast, then when to the S21 prison (Tuol Sleng.) My god, what a depressing place! Of the 20,000 inmates incarcerated, only a handful survived when the Vietnamese Army invaded and kicked the Khmer Rough’s butts in 1979. The KR were very meticulous about documenting and photographing their prisoners. The inmate’s photos were haunting and -strangely enough- most of the victims were themselves Khmer Rouge, who were denounced by their fellow comrades. I left and ordered several cool Angkor beers at the Walk About Bar.

Later that night, I went to the famous Martinis. Interesting place, large courtyard with movies and food available. They have an inside disco where most of the pairing up occurs. At the outside bar a Khmer girl, wide hipped of course, came on to me and I asked her price. “Up to you!” Me “no, tell me your price.” “Up to you Darling.” OK, I took her back to the hotel and did the dead-she wasn’t bad either. Then she said she wanted to go back to Martini’s to “dance.” Whatever, so I handed her $10. Her, “No, $20!” Me, “No, you say up to me and up to me is $10 short time. If you tell me $20 short time, I never take you Darling.” She thinks a bit then says, “OK, $5 more.” I give her $1 for motto dop and nudge her towards the door. She smiles, says thanks and leaves. Actually, I think $10 all night is doable, but more and more -unless I know the girl- I prefer short time.

I hit the sack and dreamt about Sihanoukville…

Coma Boy
02-22-06, 06:38
I left a little money on the table, as a test (with other papers), and it disappeared, so I'd be careful about leaving stuff out in the open. (about 2000 riel, not much at all)That was probably not dishonesty, the maid probably assumed it was the tip.

You got turned down at Shanghai? That's gotta be a first.

Billy Baht
02-22-06, 08:19
[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]It sounds like we did about the same trip, at least for the first few days.

I found a little massage place over by Heart of Darkness. $3 an hour, pretty good quality, though the mattress looked pretty crappy. At the end she pantomined a HJ or a BJ. She wanted $10 for a BJ, so I passed on that. She was pretty worn out![QUOTE]JC,

Yeah, sounds pretty familiar. I had been out all night at the Walk About bar, so while walking home to my new hotel ( I switched from Flamingo's to LeDeauville; #21 St 136, next to Mikado Club. Corner room, air con; $8 / night) and priced full service at one of those massage places. Agreed on $7, and the girl was crap, but she did get me off.

I bailed out of Flamingos after two nights; I had eaten there, drank there but on the second morning they charged me $1 for an extra cup of coffee. I politely asked the manager if he really wanted to charge me for the coffee and he said "Have to!" I let him save face and "win": he kept the $1, but forfeited the additional $60 to $100 I might have spent for additional nights there.

OK, no problem, I packed up and rode the $3.75 air con bus to Sihanoukville. Met a Swiss guy on the bus and he turned me onto a $5 / night room, private bath, fan (air con was $8) and I booked it. Later the Swiss guy was kind enough to ride me around Sihanoukville and sho me some bars. We got pretty drunk and I went back to the guest house to sleep it off.

The next day I rented a Honda 100cc motorscooter from a place immediately next to Mom's Guest House. Agreed on $4 / day, but $3 is doable for longer rental.

I rode all over Sihanoukville and had a blast. Went to Blue Mountain and had a great full service with a Vietnamese girl for $5. I even tipped her $1. I was still horny (I'm no stud; it was Vitamin V induced, LOL!) so I went across the road and did another ST for $5. Earlier in the day, I ended up in a slum opposite the Port of Sihanoukville (Chicken Ranch??) but the shacks and babes were just a little too iffy for me. Besides, I was alone and was a bit worried about some one stealing my Honda. I saw a few other punters around and the girls were running out into the road (mud path really) and trying to flag me down. I smiled and blew them kisses, but kept going.

After two days I'd had enough, so I rode the bus back to PP. For some reason it is $3.50 on the return journey, same bus company but $0.25 cheaper. I love a bargain!

Back in PP, I checked into Le Deauville for $8 / night. Corner room, clean and they did my laundry for 500 Riel (about 12.5 cents US per garmet.) Did a two girl session at Sophies for $20; did both girls and they "yum-yumed each other but they were in it for the money, not really in to lez IMHO.

Next night I went to Sharkys again and had a burger and fries-not bad. All the girls there wanted $20 long time, but I passed and went back to Walk About and chatted with a Vietnamese lady who was dressed very politely and seemed to be a type of mamason. She asked me what type of girl I liked and I ordered one "polite girl that smiles, takes care and has wide hips.) She trots off and returns with a 20 year old Vietnamese girl that look more Japanese to me. We agreed on $10 for short time and off to my hotle we go. The sex was about a 6, but her personality was a 10, so not bad. Her english was marginal, but I did enjoy talking to her. A $1 for the moto dop and I sent her on her way.

My last night at PP, I took it easy, since my Air Asia flight left around 0840. I did go back to the Walk About and spotting my Vietnamese girl, I grabbed her again, for another $10 ST.

Cambodia is fun and I will definately go back. But the sandy beaches of Brazil are calling out to me...

Billy Baht, now resting in Bangkok.

Billy Baht
02-22-06, 08:37
Actually, they have signs saying you can't bring any drinks or food on at all. The drinks are pretty cheap, so I wouldn't worry about it too much. I got a sandwich and a water for 80 or 120 baht.

Considering that I paid $35 RT (including taxes) during their "free" sale, I figure I did pretty good.Correct, they do say no drinks/food brought on board, but I always do. Yeah, I'm a Cheap Charlie, I admit it.

I paid the $35 RT (B1,300) as well. Man, I love a bargain! About two years ago -before they raised the fuel charge- I flew from BKK to Chiang Mai for about B500, total.

BB

Jaimito Cartero
02-22-06, 13:24
That was probably not dishonesty, the maid probably assumed it was the tip.

You got turned down at Shanghai? That's gotta be a first.

Well, I had left a smaller amount the day before, and nothing had happened to it.

Well the Shanghai thing was a bit different. I had met a girl in a hair salon during the day, in little alleys on the other side of Shanghai. It was rather surreal, since it was the middle of the day (and way in the back of the alley), and I had about 10 people watching me get my hair cut.

This cute girls was there (she lived there), and mentioned that she worked in Shanghai. I was looking for a massage place, and she mentioned the one that is close to Heart of Darkness, and offered to show it to me.

So she showed it to me (along with another youngish girl), and told me to come to Shanghai some time.

I went that night, and saw her there. After a bit, I asked about "take out", and she just acted like it verboten. I didn't pursue it much beyond that. I thought it was more like a hostess bar or something. I remember it being mentioned in the forum, but not much beyond that.

Shiofuki
02-23-06, 07:04
Just to add to the comments, I flew Air Asia last summer from Singapore to Bangkok and back. It was fine, no problems. We were a group of four, all with the etix booked online. I would definitely fly them again.

Philo
02-24-06, 10:04
.... I went that night, and saw her there. After a bit, I asked about "take out", and she just acted like it verboten. I didn't pursue it much beyond that. I thought it was more like a hostess bar or something. I remember it being mentioned in the forum, but not much beyond that.

Being turned down (by some of the girls) in Shanghai is normal. I have met girls that honestly want a boyfriend and nothing else. Others look for customers at Walkabout day and/or night.

Wendella
02-25-06, 07:46
Action in Phnom Penh has been a bit of a disappointment on this trip. But some interesting twists and turns at least....

On my 2nd night, a motorbike driver took me to some for-locals spot far away on the south side of town, actually on a busy street -- it was pretty miserable. Lots of small round homely VN girls at rock bottom prices -- definintely not worth driving out of the way for, and not worth staying for, which I didn't. Then the guy took me back to 63rd St. At the one place we visited there, I was taken upstairs to a room full about 20 Vietnamese girls (very surprised to find that many), mostly uninspiring tho -- just 2 or 3 semi-cuties. Took one of those to a room, got down to my underwear and put my pants on the bed, she took them and hung them up on a hook on the wall. Some of you already know where this one is heading. Got on bed, she laid me on my belly and started to give the hands pressed together noise-making kind of massage (fingers apart, bang the guy on the back so fingers come together and make a weird kind of clicking noise)... anyway, then she turned my head sideways to face the wall. Turned my head back the other way again -- she then took my head and turned it back again. OK, now alarms are going off, so I quickly turned and lifted up a bit so I could get a quick glimpse at the door -- sure enough it's open now, and immediately closes as soon as my view turns there. "WHAT THE FUCK!!!!" I jump up, grab my pants off the hook next to the door and run out into the hall yelling. A guy comes out of the next room as if he's just coming back from there. I check my money-- it's there. Lucky. (only had pocket change on me--knowing better) Loudly put on my clothes and head downstairs to where my driver is waiting. Tell him what happened. Since there's no loss, just want to get the hell out of the place. Expected the driver to try to make some excuse or explanation, but he just apologized and said he didnt' think they'd try to pull something like that in this place. The guy in the next room upstairs was obviously the culprit. It was a very well-choreographed setup. Except for the part where the customer suddenly turns his head.

The next night was just as strange. I set out about 10pm. Walked from my hotel at the riverside toward up north, thought I'd check out the old standby discos of Casa and Manhattan. Got to Wat Phnom, and the whole area was blacked out. Up the street though, Casa was all lit up. Walked into the disco, thudding loud music as I approached. Walked inside. Stark empty. The only people there had waiter uniforms on (not even any waitresses!). They said it gets going around 11. Oh well. Hot from my walk, needing a plan B, headed to the lobby of the hotel next door. Definitely an upscale place here, expensive looking. A real lobby. Asked the time. 10.15. Spotted a map on the wall. Maybe that will help me think of something. I walk over and scan the map, considering different spots to head off to next. I hear a guy walk behind me up the wide staircase next to me. I look up at him. He has no shirt on and his pants are undone and down around his knees. He's staggering up the stairs. Asian. A giggle, and I go back to looking at my map. Then I hear what sounds like an auditorium of young women's voices -- chattering, laughing, sighing -- coming from upstairs in the direction where Mr. Pants just headed. What the....? I head upstairs myself. There they all are. All at the glass door watching where he must have just headed down some hallway. I look in the room behind them and it's some kind of massage or karaoke or something, and there's like 100 girls in there. They look more Vietnamese than Cambodian. All done up with makeup and fancier clothes. It's a karaoke. Wander over to find out that a private karaoke room here is $10 for the night, but I'm actually thinking I'm not going to do a karaoke room by myself here -- the night is young.

Leaving, I think, ok let me check the other spots on 63rd St and see what that's like. Once there, I go into one massage spot. Very so so. Ok thanks, maybe later. Looked in on one or 2 others, no great shakes. (no wonder, they're all up at the Casa karaoke these days)

Back to Street 51. Walkabout is packed. Get a motorbike to... I dunno... Martini I guess. I get a familiar old driver from previous visits. He's full of ideas of places to take me instead. "Great place with beautiful girls who go all night for $17." I like the beautiful part, tho the $17 part worries me -- you can always count on the price being correct, but the word "beautiful" must mean something very different in Khmer. OK we'll check it out. It's some normal cafe with no girls. My driver says "Wait, my friend bring them here." How many? "2 or 3." Hmmmm. Wait 5 minutes and he pulls up with ONE very so-so girl. Oh yes, this old game. You sit down for a half hr while we bring one mediocre girl after another to you, one at a time, with you waiting 10 minutes between each one, having to say "I'm sorry Miss, you're not good enough" each time. I have not yet in my life found a girl worth taking with this method. "OK you don't like her? No problem. My friend bring another one." I tell Jake that I know this way of doing it and I really don't like it this way. I like to go where there's many girls, not one. So 10 minutes later the guy pulls up with 2 more so-so girls. OK Jake, let's go. He has another idea. Many girls. Far? Not so far. We zip off. His idea turns out to be Tuol Kok. Glance in there. It's a slight step up in quality from 63rd St but I'm not really in the mood for a quickie.

Jake's next idea is Martini. He drops me off there. I go in. Wander around. See one girl who seems ok. Very Cambodian looking and a bit buxom. After awhile of checking her out, suddenly she seems to be with some guy, massaging him. I look around, look around. Nothing else. My original girl obviously isn't there tonight. Which is good cuz I def don't want to go with her one more time again. Then suddenly I see the first girl alone on the other side of the room. The guy's gone. Huh? Walk over and say hi to her. Ask if she wants a drink, she says "ok Angkor". Beer. Wow. We sit down. Basic chit chat for about 2 minutes. She's gazing around, but smiles when we meet eyes. We're both looking at the dance floor. I ask her why she's so quiet. "Always the same." When we get around to talking about business, she says she can only go ST because honestly she has a baby. I think, yep, that's the kind of excuse a girl wouldn't make up. Now buxom is making more sense. We agree on our price and ... after a very long toilet trip for her, finally we head out.

Back in the room, everything's ok.... but she wants the lights out. I resist a bit and finally give in, leaving the tv on for some light at least. After getting undressed, she's got that towel wrapped around her a long time now. When she turned over in a way she didn't mean to, I see the reason. Very nasty looking stretch marks -- I think that's what they were. White skin streaks going down her belly against her other dark skin. Anyway I pretend not to notice, and she covers up quickly. I try to go ahead and finish things by maneuvering only into positions where her belly won't be revealed. It's tough.

As she got dressed she sang along with the Khmer kararoke songs on tv, the way someone sings alone in the shower.

That's it. The karaoke upstairs at Casa needs to be checked out better by somebody. Can't remember seeing that many girls together in one place anywhere. Quite shocking.

Rising Son
02-25-06, 21:00
Hi, Wendalla --

Sorry you had a disappointing time. There are a couple of places on 63 that are notorious for the wallet-dipping dodge, and you obviously wandered into one of them. Or were guided in, since it's impossible to believe that your driver didn't know that was on the menu. Most of the places are straight, but two of them, owned by the same people, incidentally, steal stuff as a matter of course. One thing you can do is to buy one of those things that hangs around your neck for airline tickets and passports and just put your money into that and don't take it off. Also, I know a guy who folds his pants and puts them under the pillow, but then you can't leave the room to take a shower.

I don't know whether you're still there, but a few tips: first, get to Martini about 9 or 9:30, when the pickings are best - the girls are still coming in at nine. Second, try Sharky -- there's been an improvement lately in the quality of the talent. Third, for heaven's sake don't leave without going to Sophie.

Finally, I have a Canadian friend who's been living there since 1996, and he hires himself out as a guide for not very much money (don't know exactly how much, but he's a decent, honest guy whom I like a lot and I know he's not getting rich.) He knows pretty much everything there is to know about a city where things change relatively quickly, and I know he gives good service because he remains friends with all his present and former clients, and there are also some guys who have been using him for 5-6 years just to maximize their stays. If you want his cell, PM me and I'll call him and make sure it's okay for me to give it to you.

Hope the rest of your stay is better. I've been living there off and on since 1997, and I love the place.

RS

Barrella
02-27-06, 09:39
Hello all,

I have been lurking around this forum for a bit reading up on PP, no posts really. I have lived in BKK for almost 6 years so I know the scene. I also have a friend that owns a few places in PHI so I go there allot too. I have to work in China once a month and I have picked up some good P4P in most of the main provinces.

So I had to go to PP to see what it was all about

I had an image of what I thought PP would be like from the reports on this forum.

1st its nothing like what I had thought. I had an image of an absolute dirt track something like what it was like when I was working in the Gambia.

What I found was a city trying hard to get it self out of a trap, there seems to be growth here in some places and the people are far nicer to the western man compared to what I have come accustom too in BKK. The roads seem to be alot better than what I was told and there are some nicer cars on the road than I thought there would be. The moto bikes in PP are in better condition than alot of the moto bikes I use in Bangkok and have better seats for the rear passanger.

I booked in to the walkabout, not because it was cheap but because it seemed to be a down to earth place that night be fun as it has a 24 hour bar. One of my best mates was with me and we booked into the 2 top rooms they had. Small, clean did not smell, fan plus AC, empty mini bar but you can get your beers from down stairs anyway, also small TV with loads a channels in your room.

1st Day.

I arrived from my Air Asia flight early Friday morning. Thumbs up for air asia. Driver that we booked thought the walkabout hotel was waiting for us with my name on a board in his hand. Smart, small, clean car. Good driver. $7

Got to the hotel, we had to wait 3 hours for our rooms, so me and my mate drunk tea (good price $1 large tea pot full, real milk) Also had a breakfast there as well 7/10. Saw one quite sexy white skinned Viet girl there. She looked, I looked but the small captain in the trousers was not coming out until later that night. Rooms ready I had to get some sleep.

1st bar we went to soho 2 as I have a things about nurses. A bit of a dump and a well krap pool table but it was free. We had few drinks and bought the staff a few drinks. Ended up talking in Thai to one of the waitresses for about 15 minutes, this was great as I asked her some things in Thai and she would tell me how to say them in Khmer.

2nd Sharkey bar. Read lots about it, so had to go. Good pool tables if you play on the pay for play tables. Played some games, tried to get 2 or three of the girls there to go into the toilet with me to give me a BBBJ in there for $5, I got one yes but she was not that good looking. I got playing some more pool and won a lot of games. A real nice qute Khmer girl came over to me and said would I play on her table in a game of doubles. Of course I said, she was good looking. We played some games we won some games. My mate had got this real young looking Khmer girl, up to him. He wanted to go back and do the deed so I offered the invitation to the girl that I was playing pool with and she said yes. She had nice clothes, good makeup etc. Brand new mobile phone and seemed to know everyone there, I could smell money on her. We got back to the hotel, her service was amazing. Long slow BBBJ, she liked what she was doing. Good hard shag, CIF with a smile off her when it was landing on her face, then a rest and a talk. She showed me all the SMS’s of the dumb ferlang that send her money every month (she makes a lot). Some of the real hard core Thai girls I know do not make as much as this Khmer girl does. She asked if I was hungry, I said yes, so she went down stairs and bought me a coke and a burger, (good girl) After our food she then went down on the captain again even better girl. She was not as slow this time and went strait in for the shag a nice quick one. He phone starting to ring, one of the boy friends that sends her money. While playing with my manhood she was saying to this (OZ guy I think) she loved him and she misses him and she needs more money, what a surprise. Well the phone call finished, we carried on talking and having fun with each other, she a had a few sms from different men from the UK saying I love I miss you lar lar lar. Before we went to sleep we had one more hard shag. We both fell asleep around 4:00am, 7:00am she was at it again under the covers. Long hard shag with lots of moans and groans. We went to sleep again. 10:45am one last time shag. She had a shower put on her clothes quick and asked for some money I gave her $15, she smiled and said I want more I said so would I if I was you, she smiled and said will you come see me tonight I said no as I am a butterfly she laughed again and said I know but I had to ask.

1st impressions after the first day. FUC*&$#@ great.

2nd day. Went to do the tourist things Palace National museum etc. I was tied so I went to bed no action.

3rd day. I went to the freebird restaurant. Nice inside, ordered the chili it was quite good. Went back to my room and I have had the shi#s ever since. That night I went out to Martinis, what a dive, do not go there ever. Ugly girl’s, pushy skinner old mama sans pushing young new Vietnamese girls to me from the second I walked in. The constant flow of water from my ass did not help matters though. My mate got a girl and I went back to my hotel to krap for the night. After day three this place sucks!!!

4th day

Could not go out have the real bad shi%s still. Day four is as I am making this report. I will try and have a few beers tonight. I will go to Sharks again then I will try and go to Sophies so I can say I have been there. Hope the flow from my ass stops soon.

I will give you a new report soon.

Wendella
02-27-06, 10:18
Well, good to know. I've been in and out of PP a few times in the last 5 yrs, so know the layout fairly well. Doubt there's any big new places I need to discover. I did check in at Sharky's a few times but, not sure if it's me, but every time I go there it's just not really happening. I've never hung out at Sharky for more than a beer or 2.

You might be right, my driver could have known about that massage place. At first I took a look at the girls and told him I'd rather move on ... he told me this was it, there weren't any more places after this. I knew damn well there were probably 5 or more places just like it either right next door or across the street on the same block.

Didn't realize Martini got going that early. Really? Only ever got there around 11 or later.

Went back again to the Casa karaoke on my last night in PP. It's at its fullest between 9 and 10, when most girls are showing up to start work. $10 for the karaoke room. I think it was $7 to take a girl in there. But going home with her $50. They offered to let you skip the room and go straight to your hotel for $65. Definitely needs to be seen, that place. So damn many girls.

Btw, I did hook up with the same girl from Martini on 3 of my 4 nights there. She'd spot me every time and latch on tight. Since she was always one of the hottest girls in the room, it made it tough to give up in favor of taking a shot at something else that might or might not work. But she was really excellent, the most GF feeling I've had with a working girl... maybe ever. So not all bad.

When I first met her, asked how long she'd been working. Four. (she held up 4 fingers) Four.. months? No, days.

Jaimito Cartero
02-27-06, 18:19
3rd day. I went to the freebird restaurant. Nice inside, ordered the chili it was quite good. Went back to my room and I have had the shi#s ever since.

I too ate at Freebird, and had some problems the next day. I have no idea if it was the food there, or the ice I got in my drink somewhere.

I went to a pharmacy, and got some pills and a package of rehydrading powder to mix into some water. (2000 Riel for all of it) Felt fine after that.

Jaimito Cartero
02-27-06, 18:21
When I first met her, asked how long she'd been working. Four. (she held up 4 fingers) Four.. months? No, days.

I hope you don't take what they tell you too seriously. I've heard, "Oh, I only work for 2 weeks" so many times that it makes my mind swim.

Barrella
02-28-06, 07:59
End of day 4

Went to Shanghai bar. Nice ladies very friendly as well. I did not do a take out as I still have the kraps!

Went to sharkey’s bar. Same old worn out girls, nothing in there to take mine or my friends fancy. Went back to the walkabout, some girls having a fight down stairs. Went to bed and had the shits all night.

Today so far. Went to the toilet for a water based dump 4 times and I hope to go to Shanghai bar and take one of the real nice ones in there for the night. If not I will go to Sophie’s. I will tell all tomorrow.

Jaimito Cartero
03-01-06, 06:10
Today so far. Went to the toilet for a water based dump 4 times and I hope to go to Shanghai bar and take one of the real nice ones in there for the night. If not I will go to Sophie’s. I will tell all tomorrow.

One important thing is to get something to treat it. As untreated, you can lose all the electrolytes in your body and get really fucked up. (At least that's how it's been explained to me. I'm not doctor by anyone's imagination.)

I know, I've waited a few days and hoped it would get better (when I was in Rio last summer), and it never did. I had some stuff I got in Brazil that worked fine there, but didn't seem to do much in PNH. I felt fine within a few hours after my visit to the pharmacy, though.

Chili Padi
03-02-06, 02:30
Got into PP yesterday early and stayed at the New York hotel. First trip to PP and after walking around a bit, got back to the hotel and checked out the massage palour upstairs on the top floor. Massage was USD5.00 an hour or USD8.00 for 2 hours. Can be done at the palour or in your room (same price). About 15 girls were paraded and picked one.

She is Vietnamnese about 24/25 y/o, petite and fair skin and she, IMO, is a beauty (9/10) and she has a beautiful set of body that you would definitely drool over. She's about 5' or less but her breast are big, rounded and firm and her body is also tight, no flab.

Massage was also quite decent from toe to head and and discussed the extras after. Massaged also my balls and pubic area and that got my bro standing rigid. She then gave me a bbbj which was light and quick then capped me and lowered herself on me. She was tight! While she was riding me, great position to squeeze and suck those amazing tits. Turned her over after a while and continued pumping her. No fake moans but little whimpers. Good GF feel with light kisses and was a great relieve at the end.

Name: Yan
Looks: 9/10
Boby: 8.5/10
Breasts: 9/10
Massage: 7.5/10
BJ: 5/10
Attitude: 7/10
WIR: Definitely
Cost: 5(massage)+20+5(tip)..I know is high (20+5) but I liked her.


Chili Padi

Chili Padi
03-02-06, 02:33
End of day 4

Today so far. Went to the toilet for a water based dump 4 times and I hope to go to Shanghai bar and take one of the real nice ones in there for the night. If not I will go to Sophie’s. I will tell all tomorrow.Try drinking a fresh coconut. Don't ask me why but it seems to work for me and some other people I know that have the runs.

Dinghy
03-02-06, 05:07
Barella - 2 ciprofloxin for 2 days and lomotil otherwise IF you could find a small opium pill (yeah, somewhat dangerous - but the effect on bowels is IMMEDIATE) should cure the problem.

I got something similar in Snooky last year and used cipro/lomotil. Food poisoning I think - try that combined with a 4 hour boat ride. Stayed O/N in Trat to try to get over it - took 3 days total <green>

Chili Padi
03-03-06, 02:31
2nd day in PP. Checked out the bars like Shanghai, Walkabout yesterday evening but wasn't too much into the bars scene though there were some nice girls there. Had a dinner and a drink then headed back to hotel.

Did quite a bit of walking round the tourist sites and markets and decided to have another massage back at the hotel.

Called for one to be sent down to my room and not surprising, the same girl, Yan, as yesterday came by. Guess being a bit more familiar, she was even friendlier and chatty then she already was yesterday. Massage, however, was not as good. Guess she is allotting more time for the fun part. BBBJ was much better than previous where she spent more time sucking and licking and even my balls got a workout. I got to to play with her love hole and her asshole and she was all for it.

Capped my bro and proceeded to lower hewrself on my bro. A good ride and and my hands too got a very good workout on her breasts. Changed her round and pumped her real hard and and can see she was definitely feeling me inside her.

Paid her the same as before but definitely a very good session and to me, well worth it.

Chili Padi

Hotman 666
03-03-06, 14:41
I recently returned from my first trip to Cambodia and would like to add a new venue to the list of Phnom Penh bars and clubs previously mentioned in the forum.
Mikado Club is located at the corner of street 49 and street 136 near the central market.

Opening hours 18.00 – 02.00 hours

A medium sized club/bar with around 15/20 girls. Mostly bar stools but some curtained cubicles along one wall (Ideal for conducting “job interviews!)

Drinks = US$ 2.00 each. Girls very friendly but strangely all of them seem to be rather forgetful as none were wearing any underwear!

Upstairs short time rooms available, clean and air conditioned with shower. Price for girl and room US$ 12.00 (short time.) GOD VALUE!

Manager is David. Helpful and speaks good English.

My favourite girl was Mun, half Cambodian and half Indian she told me. A beautiful body with superb tits and VERY eager to please! Happy to keep you company for a drink or so with a tip of 1 to 2 US$.

Of all the Phnom Penh venues I visited this was my favourite. No pressure, no hassles and a most pleasurable time! If you go please tell David that you heard about the club on the internet from the “old Englishman with the beard!” You never know I may get a free drink next time!

Good hunting,

Hotman

Dman So
03-05-06, 15:36
To all the grandmasters in here. I have tried to read the pages from the begginning till the end. I think I got as far as page 12 or 13? Then my computer crashed. Anyway. I was wondering if someone can help me out.

If we grab 2 girls up from (say Cyrcee or Sophie's) does that mean we have double shots? And double the time? Or does that mean we just pay more and have 1 shot? (since I am not even sure if I can make 2 shots? heh heh)

Thanks in advance

Billy Baht
03-06-06, 03:52
I recently returned from my first trip to Cambodia and would like to add a new venue to the list of Phnom Penh bars and clubs previously mentioned in the forum. Mikado Club is located at the corner of street 49 and street 136 near the central market.HotmanGood info Hotman. I stayed at "LeDeauville" the hotel located immediately left of the Mikado Club. Air, cable tv and clean. Their rack rate was $10, but I bargained them down to $8 per night for a three night stay.

Billy Baht

Tom Teodor
03-06-06, 08:17
Hello for the moment i am living in thailand.But now i have to go on a visarun and i chose pp.I never been there before so i been reading alot on the forum..Really alot of info :o) good there and im looking forward to see something new..From what i can understand the sceen is quite different from thailand..I been booking room at the flamingos hotell.read alot about it in this forum and it sounds like a good choise.So now its only visa for cambodia left..Does anybody know if i can get visa in the pp airport at arival..Or do i have to track down the cambodian ambas... in bangkok?

Tom

Fast Eddie 48
03-06-06, 21:34
Hello for the moment i am living in thailand.But now i have to go on a visarun and i chose pp.I never been there before so i been reading alot on the forum..Really alot of info :o) good there and im looking forward to see something new..From what i can understand the sceen is quite different from thailand..I been booking room at the flamingos hotell.read alot about it in this forum and it sounds like a good choise.So now its only visa for cambodia left..Does anybody know if i can get visa in the pp airport at arival..Or do i have to track down the cambodian ambas... in bangkok?

Tom


to tom

You can get visa at the airport at phnom penh $ 20.00 usd need 2 photo
take about 15 -20 min at custom .

fast eddie 48

Dinghy
03-07-06, 00:14
DOLLARS - get TWENTY DOLLARS. When I was there in Sept, it was 1 picture but mai ben rai

Jaimito Cartero
03-07-06, 03:59
DOLLARS - get TWENTY DOLLARS. When I was there in Sept, it was 1 picture but mai ben rai

Only 1 picture when I was there last month. I got a like a dozen pics in Bangkok though (100 baht), so I had plenty.

Don't pay the Cambodian visa desk in baht, as they charge 1000 baht, which is not a deal for you. $20 cash.

Burty
03-07-06, 09:51
Anyone knows a GF 4-star hotel with decent prices in PP? Perhaps one with a disco inside to make it easier to take a girl up for the night?

And where is the description on these 73 pages on how to get to Sophies!!??

Billy Baht
03-07-06, 10:06
I got my Cambodian visa, on arrival, at the airport: $20 USD and one photo. Feb 7, 06

Billy Baht

Nick Belane
03-08-06, 06:53
Sophie is at the corner of Streets 53 and 118. Upstairs, second floor.

Rising Son
03-08-06, 16:17
Anyone knows a GF 4-star hotel with decent prices in PP? Perhaps one with a disco inside to make it easier to take a girl up for the night?

And where is the description on these 73 pages on how to get to Sophies!!??


You might try the Holiday International off Moniwong. Quite girl-friendly and they have a nice pool and disco, although the disco is pretty much all-pro and they're looking for Asian guys -- Chinese and Khmer. I go in every time I'm there, stay about ten minutes, and leave.

They'll probably ask $50/night but you can bargain them down quite a bit.

RS

Mighty Spearsman
03-09-06, 08:20
anyone knows a gf 4-star hotel with decent prices in pp? perhaps one with a disco inside to make it easier to take a girl up for the night? ...
try the "hotel cambodiana" right on the mekong river, walking distance from the royal palace, with a casino riverboat behind it. it's more colonial-era style than modern, definitely one of the nicer hotels in pp.

the "golden spa" is located out back next to the pool. the night that i was there, 12 women were on duty, kmer (cambodian), vietnamese and chinese. all were attractive and appeared to be in their early twenties (i.e. no **** girls and no old hags). services include sauna, steam bath, a respectable foot massage in a large communal lounge, plus private massage sessions with a lady in a small room.

the prices for the private massage were us $10 for 1 hour, us $18 for 2 hours, plus $2 extra if you want a chinese masseuse (i have no idea why they cost $2 more). underneath these prices was a line saying $10 surcharge if the girl comes to your room upstairs to give the massage. only a massage and hj are available during the private massage in the health club itself, so if you are interested in fs or a bj, then you should pay the surcharge and have the girl come to your room.

yes, i know that one can find cheaper sex outside the hotel. but sometimes it is nice to just go downstairs and hook up with a young cutie without having to leave your hotel.

Krum Lov
03-09-06, 11:13
mighty spearsman, does the $10 include the HJ? thanks.

Yendor
03-09-06, 16:04
No - I had some negotiation hassles in the massage room and take-out would have been better.

Some cuties in a mini-fishbowl. Mama when I was there in Dec was a very efficient chinese-cambodian!

King Stone Age
03-11-06, 23:10
I plan on visiting Southeast Asia in the upcomming months. I heard that there are virgins available, however of course, for some serious cash. Does anyone have any insight into this? I heard it's around $1000 for a long weekend but the girl is an untouched virgin.

Luludinky
03-13-06, 04:22
If you want virgins, you may eventually find them but you will have to fuck children as young as 10 to 14 years old...

The probability for you to serve 10 to 15 years in Phnom Penh Prey Sar jail is quite significant. NGOs and Cambodian government are getting more and more active on tracking down child sex tourists.

There are plenty of nice girls in Cambodia to have good time with. Please leave the children alone... I will not complain if you get caught. I will even probably applause...

Robarts
03-13-06, 05:33
Hi all. Spent a few weeks in PHnom Penh in December last year. Stayed at Flamingos and was very pleased with the standard of rooms/service for the price ($20). Spent a couple of nights checking out some of the places recomended on this forum. Sharky's was ok put sometimes the girls were a little old and pushies. Shanghi bar was quality but had to work hard to get a girl to come back for LT ($25). She was great but left promptly in the morning. Asked a few girls at various places for if they would do anal but all refused (even for more money). I am returning this May and if anyone has any advice on some new (or old) places that are worth a try for a good night out, please let me know. Also I do enjoy anal so if anyone has any ideas where I might have some luck finding this service please let me know. Also missed sophies but based on previous reports will check it out in May. If anyone is interested, I would really apprieciate if you could list you top 3 venues in PP to meet girls and a brief description as to why. Would be interesting for all of us to compare notes and share a few ideas.

Thanks Boys and keep having fun.

Coma Boy
03-13-06, 08:20
I found that most girls from Martinis and Walkabout were into anal, some were even offering it as part of their sales pitch last time I was there.

Rustydick
03-13-06, 21:30
I was in Phnom Penh last year 2005. Had a ball. Was meant to stay 4 days and stayed 11 days. I stayed in Mikeys Guesthouse, which is now called Hope and Anchor. The place was verry good and food also good. We drank in the front bar after that it was Martini or Heart of Darkness. I had the time of my life there. Also the Walkabout is top class. The girls not as good as Thailand but they wer good. I am definately going back this year for a week.

Kens14
03-14-06, 15:00
I plan on visiting Southeast Asia in the upcomming months. I heard that there are virgins available, however of course, for some serious cash. Does anyone have any insight into this? I heard it's around $1000 for a long weekend but the girl is an untouched virgin.

Anyone who's been to SE Asia will fully understand the remark from this man. I totally advise him to stay in the West. If you want a virgin go to your local church, mosque, synagogue or whatever your predilection is. If you want to come to SE Asia enjoy your time with the LEGAL older ladies, and don't worry about their history as they won't worry about yours.

Kens

Mighty Spearsman
03-15-06, 03:11
mighty spearsman, does the $10 include the HJ? thanks.
Yes, although I remember giving her a small tip anyway on top of that, as thanks for the great session.

If the girl does come up to your room, I'm sure that she'll expect a tip for BJ and FS. Unfortunately, I was only in PP for one night, so I never got the chance to invite someone up.

I also still remember that virtually all of the 12 girls on duty were cute and in their early 20s, not like some places where the percentage of "lookers" can often be small.

Lustforthrust
03-15-06, 08:40
re-run of post #4

prices must have doubled now?


try the "hotel cambodiana" right on the mekong river, walking distance from the royal palace, with a casino riverboat behind it. it's more colonial-era style than modern, definitely one of the nicer hotels in pp.

the "golden spa" is located out back next to the pool. the night that i was there, 12 women were on duty, kmer (cambodian), vietnamese and chinese. all were attractive and appeared to be in their early twenties (i.e. no **** girls and no old hags). services include sauna, steam bath, a respectable foot massage in a large communal lounge, plus private massage sessions with a lady in a small room.

the prices for the private massage were us $10 for 1 hour, us $18 for 2 hours, plus $2 extra if you want a chinese masseuse (i have no idea why they cost $2 more). underneath these prices was a line saying $10 surcharge if the girl comes to your room upstairs to give the massage. only a massage and hj are available during the private massage in the health club itself, so if you are interested in fs or a bj, then you should pay the surcharge and have the girl come to your room.

yes, i know that one can find cheaper sex outside the hotel. but sometimes it is nice to just go downstairs and hook up with a young cutie without having to leave your hotel.

Goderos
03-15-06, 10:23
PnP is as reported in the post here. Managed to check out most of the post here and saw what was posted and can verify most of the information is true. PnP can be challenging to get around when you dont speak the local language. Had a few sandwiches and some very GFE experinces. Be careful in PnP, though most people are nice but some are slimy with a smile. I enjoyed my time and will return again.

Fast Eddie 48
03-16-06, 11:55
try the "hotel cambodiana" right on the mekong river, walking distance from the royal palace, with a casino riverboat behind it. it's more colonial-era style than modern, definitely one of the nicer hotels in pp.

the "golden spa" is located out back next to the pool. the night that i was there, 12 women were on duty, kmer (cambodian), vietnamese and chinese. all were attractive and appeared to be in their early twenties (i.e. no **** girls and no old hags). services include sauna, steam bath, a respectable foot massage in a large communal lounge, plus private massage sessions with a lady in a small room.

the prices for the private massage were us $10 for 1 hour, us $18 for 2 hours, plus $2 extra if you want a chinese masseuse (i have no idea why they cost $2 more). underneath these prices was a line saying $10 surcharge if the girl comes to your room upstairs to give the massage. only a massage and hj are available during the private massage in the health club itself, so if you are interested in fs or a bj, then you should pay the surcharge and have the girl come to your room.

yes, i know that one can find cheaper sex outside the hotel. but sometimes it is nice to just go downstairs and hook up with a young cutie without having to leave your hotel.


to mighty spearman

cost of $ 10.00 is for massage only , i stay there 4 yr ago got a massage at
golden spa she did offer fs in my room for $ 20.00 extra that i pass cause you
can get all night for that price but the massage is great $ 15.00 2 hr in my room.

fast eddie 48

Goderos
03-16-06, 19:34
to mighty spearman

Cost of $ 10.00 is for massage only , I stay there 4 yr ago got a massage at
golden spa she did offer fs in my room for $ 20.00 extra that I pass cause you
can get all night for that price but the massage is great $ 15.00 2 hr in my room.

fast eddie 48

tried a massage at a fish bowl. it was $5 dollars or less. it was in a hotel. there was about 25 girls to choose from. FS was posibble.
paid $20 for LT/ON. though there were many asking for more.

Jaimito Cartero
03-18-06, 03:00
tried a massage at a fish bowl. it was $5 dollars or less. it was in a hotel. there was about 25 girls to choose from. FS was posibble.
paid $20 for LT/ON. though there were many asking for more.

Can be a be a little more specific about *what* hotel?

Pak Mike
03-18-06, 12:50
Had a nice take-away from Rose Bar (Street 104) the other night. This is a friendly little bar with at least 10 hostesses. Had a couple of beers in the company of two of the girls, one very light skinned (some Chinese blood I think) and the other dark skinned with the looks of a real provincial gal. Bar fined them both, which cost $5 each, then hopped on a couple of Motos for the short ride back to my hotel.

Once inside my room, poured some drinks, then it was into the shower an all-together-one-time lather up. Four hands with those slippery suds and sexy bodies is a great way to go. Extreme willpower was required in resisting to bend these ladies over in the shower cubicle (which luckily is of very generous proportions) and have my wicked way with both of them. They both had fantastic bodies, the dark skinned girl had one of those perfectly sculptured dark rounded arses that really gets my blood pumping.

Anyway, part of the deal was a four-hands massage, which I really needed. So, with me in the middle on the bed they set about their task. Not the best massage I have ever had, but quite nice. Of course their (and my) hands roamed, so by the end I was as horny as hell

I was now ready for something a bit friskier. I had really warmed to the dark skinned girl, and got the impression that with both of them together they were a little shy and inhibited, so sent the light skinned girl on her way with $10. Sure enough, as soon as the other girl had gone this little girl really turned on the full GFE. Lots of kissing with her sucking my nipples, and eventually working downwards to a BBBJ. Very nice indeed. Slipped my fingers between her legs and she was dripping wet. This really sent me over the edge, couldn’t hold out any longer, and it was a fantastic CIM and swallow, she didn’t miss a beat. After a couple of weeks of not mongering, it was certainly a load. No gagging or rushing to the bathroom for spitting out, she carried on with my now half erect cock, which after about 10-15 minutes was again at full mast.

Rolled her over, capped my cock, and gave her a long hard doggy. Life was good that night. By now it was around 1 AM, I was buggered and in need of a good sleep, so sent her on her way with $20.

A good night.

Now working up courage for a visit to Sophies.

Pak Mike
03-25-06, 09:32
enjoyed another couple of nice take-aways during the week, but before getting into that an interesting little digression. the phnom penh post (march 24-april 6, 2006) has an interesting full-page profile on three local cambodian lesbians (with photos). by day these gals have various jobs (motor mechanic, air conditioner repairer etc.) and at night sell sex to “wealthy” foreign women (mainly french and american), and it seems that these gals are busy. hey fellow mongers, do we have some competition here with these foreign women coming over and getting into the local lesbian scene? potential for a parallel isg website?

checked out dv8 on street 148, as their advert states they have “babes, booze, billiards & much more”, so seemed a sure bet. was 8:30-ish and the place was dead, only one other customer. not overly impressed with the bored looking and not so attractive girls. was just figuring on downing my beer and looking elsewhere when a real cutie appears behind the bar, nice smile and of course bending forward to let me catch a glimpse of her smallish (almost nonexistent) cleavage. bingo! after getting over the “hello what’s your name where do you come from” bit, there was an immediate invite to go to the upstairs bar. this turned out be a small verandah outside the pool table with a few lounge chairs, very nice thinks i. well this little cutey was frisky as hell, and in a short time we were engaged in some frolicking with lots of kissing and mutual nipple play, she was not wearing a bra, so this progressed to some serious nipple sucking. she had smallish breasts but huge thick nipples. in the process i ordered a “lady drink” which turned out to be a red bull and something (i forget), and no standard measures used here, it was very strong! the little lady downed this in relatively short time.

before i knew it, the $5 bar fine had been paid up and we were on the back of a motto back to my hotel. nothing subtle about this young lady, once inside my room it was gear off and into the shower for a scrub up. nice body, but the beginning of a spare tyre around her waist (her tiger belly as she called it). onto the bed and she was straight into a bbbj with lots of tonguing around my balls and arse, she was good. i was looking forward to a cim, but she had other ideas, i decided to go with the flow (best approach sometimes) and i was capped very professionally with her then immediately going for a cowgirl. very nice, and she knew what she liked, judging from the hip movements and moaning that was going on. got tired of this eventually so i rolled her over for a good old-fashioned doggy. this she liked, and had to turn up the tv volume to drown out her moaning. after a while even this was not enough so had to make a serious effort to bury her head in the pillows, last thing i wanted was a noise complaint from other guests. gave her a good long hard banging and finally let go my load. into the shower for a wash-up. used disinfectant soap for this one as my balls and inside thighs were drenched with her pussy juice. not sure if this helps but provides some peace of mind. she was still spread-eagled on the bed recovering her breath. by this stage i was done, so after a session that had lasted around 90 minutes was ready to put $20 into her hand and send her on her way. i needed some sleep.

next night decided to explore some of the bars on street 108. they are all a fairly similar set up, and before long was sitting with beer in hand surround by some lovelies going through the inevitable “hello what’s your name where do you come from” routine, with one lass giving me a shoulder massage. my eye spotted one little cutey that was hanging back a bit, and as it turns out who had a reasonable level of english. only in the job for a couple of days, a uni student by day, and had taken this bar job after losing her job in some up market french restaurant. enjoyed her company and conversation, and after a few beers decided to call it a night and head back to my hotel for some sleep. however, not before exchanging mobile phone numbers, why i did this am not sure, as it is not something i usually do. went back to the same place the following night and saw her again. she was still hanging back, only sitting on the opposite side of the table and reluctant to sit alongside me (unlike the others). she was certainly a newbie, and definitely of the “good-girl” variety, but i nevertheless popped the question, and surprisingly she agreed to step out with me. i could see the wonderment on the face of the other girls as i settled my bill and paid the $5 bar fine. as we were getting onto the motto she said that the girls were surprised and would be asking a lot of questions the next day. on entering my room i immediately went for a [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134), and on coming back she was nowhere to be seen! i was stunned. as it turns out, she was hiding behind the curtain. although obviously well educated, it was apparent from the look in her eyes that she had never been inside an up market hotel room.

as we stood in front of the window i held her and placed a few light kisses around her neck and earlobes. she basically melted into my arms and then i knew it was on, and seemed as if we were moving into gfe territory from her responses. she was not going to allow me to see her get undressed, and would only allow me into the shower after she had undressed and was washing (and i suppose comfortable). very nice body, nice breasts, big thick nipples, and nice shaped arse. on the bed her inexperience was quickly apparent, hand job was rough as guts, and bbbj was all teeth (ouch). i liked her, so persisted with some lessons in the gentle art of hand jobs and bbbj. soon realized that some extensive tutoring in bbbj was required, so stuck with the hand job. she watched in amazement as i come, obviously never seen this close-up before. after a quick wash up, was back on the bed for some extended gentle foreplay. she was wet, but not overly wet. eventually capped myself (she watched intently) and made a slow gentle missionary entry. while wet, she was a little on the tight side, some patience here (easier having shot my load shortly before). once fully inserted she started to enjoy it, judging from her hands on my arse guiding me into the rhythm she preferred. shot my load again, and she was petrified that something had spilled or broken, as she was frightened of pregnancy.

eventually fell asleep, and in the morning had a repeat performance. all up, very pleasant. put $20 plus $1 dollar for motto in her hand, and sent her on her way. a short time latter received an sms thanking me for the $21. i replied along the lines of it was my pleasure and that she was a good girl. she immediately bounces back saying that she feels like a bad girl, and she was embarrassed when she left the hotel with everyone looking at her like a bad girl.

next night, back to the same bar and was greeted with a lot of knowing smiles from the other girls. it was early (around 7 pm), had one beer, decided to bite the bullet and bar-fined her again. this early in the night the cost had gone up to $10. we spent a few pleasant hours in a couple of cafes talking about all and sundry, and she really is a nice young lady, well educated, and has plans for herself. it was getting on, around 10 pm, so slipped $20 into her bag, and said she can have the money and there was no need to come back to my hotel unless she particularly wanted to. this initially stunned her, and i said that it was really up to her. i must be getting soft in my old age, but she genuinely is a nice sweet young girl. surprisingly she said she wanted to go back to my hotel. i asked why. no answer. was it the sex? no answer. i told her that i was in a long-term relationship so there is nothing more in it for her, no answer. check again, she was into it, so on the back of a motto back to the hotel it is.

this second time even more of a gfe, and she had learnt a bit from our previous encounter, but not a lot. so more instruction from me, which in a perverse way ended being a big turn-on for me. one shot before sleeping and then an early morning glory before sending her on her way. all in all, very pleasant.

Yendor
03-30-06, 01:13
Pak Mike. Nice reports. Where did you stay?

Y

Pak Mike
03-31-06, 00:08
Made a return visit to Cyrcee Club (Street 31) last night. On entering was descended on by five or six ladies as I fronted the bar and ordered a beer. In all, probably at least 15 girls in this place all sitting along the back wall behind the bar. As I settled with my beer lots of immediate requests to go upstairs for “sucky-sucky” and “boom-boom”. Not a lot of English spoken here, so this is about the limit of any conversation.

The cute little Vietnamese lady I banged during my last visit was sitting on the knee of some foreigner and being fingered rather vigorously under her dress (very few, if any of the girls wear panties). While this was going on she was looking into my eyes with a rather lustful and wanton look. At the same time a couple of the ladies sitting with me were stroking my now hard cock through my shorts. The original five crowded around me had now withered to two girls, and both were having a good go at stroking my cock. I reciprocated with my fingers between their legs, while they were flashing their nipples.

Seeing that little Vietnamese lady being fingered (she is hot and a real sweety), and with these two ladies working on my cock through my shorts, decided to finish up my beer, order another one, and head up stairs with the gals. Was able to negotiate $10 each for girls.

The rooms are OK, with attached bathroom. So it was in for a quick (cold) wash up with the girls, and onto the bed. Nice BBBJ with the other sucking my balls and some licking around my arse. Nice, they did this well. Was capped, and decided to do the smallest of the two doggy style. She had really small breasts, and fantastic rounded arse, not large, but nicely shaped and perky. While banging her doggy, was sucking on the tits of the other one who was bustier with nice big meaty nipples.

After finishing, some nice unhurried kissing cuddling and nipple sucking as we lay on the bed. Could have gone for round two with the other gal, but had other plans.

Washed up, paid the gals, settled the bar tab and was on my way after about 45 minutes.

Headed over to Sophies for my first visit. Not so hard to find, and then up the well lit but rather dirty stairs to the first floor. Signs on the wall clearly locate the entrance, but necessary to knock on the door to gain entrance. On entering could see about 10 girls. One customer was at the bar being sucked off by a couple of girls while feeling and sucking the tits of another. On ordering a beer came the usual pleas for “sucky-sucky” and “boom-boom” in one of the three rooms available. Also a request to open my shorts. Why not? Then had four girls giving me a taste of the BBBJ technique, and also offering me the menu available in one of the rooms. Seems as if CIM and anal are available.

Some of these girls were just too pushy with their demands to go into one of the rooms for boom-boom, so decided to thin their ranks a little by tipping $1 for the BBBJ samples, and settled on two girls only. Cemented the relationship by buying them each a lady drink (all drinks are $2). Rather than head into one of the rooms, decided on a BBBJ at the bar, so let the two girls get down to work. Both very good, but one had a sensational technique so allowed her to finish me with CIM. Very nice indeed as she gulped down every last drop. The other girl also had a little suck of my cock after I had cum, a nice touch I thought. Finished up my beer, settled the bar tab, and paid each girl $5 for the BBBJ. Was on my way feeling rather satisfied with the night’s dalliance.

Matt Navan Man
04-13-06, 11:15
Headed to Cyrcee last night. Far busier than last year and as a result a price rise was to be expected. Pricing now at $15 to take one lady upstairs plus $2 for the room. I was also offered Pat Mike's $20 for two girls plus the room charge. The place was so busy though there was a 20 minute wait for a room. Hygiene standards have slipped even further than last year (maybe just because it was so busy), used condoms on the floor and wet stains on the bed. Not exactly enticing but I risked it and the service was the usual high standard.

Overall worth the trip but maybe try to choose a quieter time (I went about 10pm). Off to Apocolypse Now tonight. They've moved to a new premises off Street 63 which could be interesting. Enjoy.

Lee66
04-14-06, 06:41
The scene is about the same for me now as jan.06, but st. 63 has higher % condom girls then before, also more arrogant, and yell at each other from your cubicle, papasain trying to jack up price for me to $10. Seems like more freelancers are using oral contraceptives now. I would say as far as gfe goes, it is getting worse. But if you just want service, still a good place to come to. on the poitive side, It is reported in the news media that china is giving cambodia some 500 million dollars, so hopefully this will help push out more christian ngo's.

East40
04-25-06, 19:49
Are the top end hotels like Raffles, Cambodiana, Intercontinental, Sunway etc girl friendly?

Coma Boy
04-26-06, 05:58
Are the top end hotels like Raffles, Cambodiana, Intercontinental, Sunway etc girl friendly?Yes, they are.

East40
04-28-06, 10:17
Ok. Thanks for this, does anybody of you have experience about various hotels in this range. I would be grateful to read about this. With thanks E.

Pak Mike
05-01-06, 16:27
Made my second visit to Sophie’s last night, a lot more confident than my first visit (see report 03-31-06) now that I have their “system” sorted.

As is their way, immediately descended upon by 5 girls on entering, and shown to a bar stool at the end of the bar along with two other punters who were in the process of being “serviced” at the bar. Ordered a beer and sat back to enjoy 5 young ladies provide me with samples of their BBBJ skills. The trick is to thin their ranks early as at this stage they are all pushing for boom-boom in one of the rooms, usually wanting you to take 2 or 3 girls. Got them to go one more round with their BBBJ samples while I lifted their tops to check out their tits and slip my hand under their skirts to get a feel of their naked arses, none were wearing panties. Two of the BBBJs stood out, so sent the other girls on their way with a $1 tip.

Ordered a lady drink each for the two girls, and set about to enjoy their attentions to my hard cock. Still some pressure to go into one of the rooms, but resisted, as I was keen on being blown at the bar. Once my intention was sorted, the two girls became a bit less pushy, but still haggling a little bit. Initially it was $10 each for a BBBJ in the room, which they said would be the same cost at the bar. After lingering over my second beer, they then said it would be $5 each at the bar, including CIM.

Guys, it doesn’t come much better than this, two little Khmer cuties administering the best BBBJ you will ever find, while downing a cold beer at the bar. A nice finish with CIM, while the other girl was sucking my nipples. This would have to be the 5 bucks a guy could spend.

Will have to concur with Matt Navan Man re his comments on Cycree. I visited a few days before Cambodian New Year and the place was busier than I remember it during my earlier visits, but did not have to wait for a room. Didn’t have used condoms on the floor, but did have wet marks on the bed.

Chose a real cutie, small lady with red lipstick and pretty face. The usual groping and cock stroking at the bar, and was surprised to find her pussy quite wet when I slipped my fingers under her dress. Once in the room discovered she had quite extensive stretch marks, but generally a nice body with small breasts, so was not too disappointed, besides, she was a horny little thing. Not too many preliminaries here as she was already fairly wet, so after being capped turned her over for a long hard doggy, which from her noises and thrusting back onto my cock she seemed to enjoy. Was rewarded by a nice long cuddle as we lay on the bed afterwards, she didn’t want to let me go, or did she just want a break from the bar downstairs. Again, Cycree delivers the goodies.

Pokey Penguin
05-02-06, 11:28
I was in PP a few months ago, and walked all up and down 63rd St. trying to find the famous "63rd St. brothels." I passed a few shabby little buildings where men would motion me inside and show me a room with a few girls in it. Are these the famous brothels? I was sort of expecting something a bit flashier.

Also, some of these brothels are referred to by name as "Lay Lay" and other names, but I never saw any names outside these establishments.

Did I see the "63rd St. brothels" or were the places i saw something else? I'd be grateful if someone would give more detailed info on where these brothels are. Also, are they open during the day or night or both?

On a related matter, there's a street just a block or two east of the Pacific Hotel where there are a bunch of "guest houses" decorated with Christmas lights. I went by some of them and men motioned me inside, and said there were girls upstairs, but I thought it might be a setup and didn't want to go in.

But these shops looked more like what I imagine brothels to look like, with their christmas lights and all. But this street was not 63rd. St. Are these brothels? Are they for the farangs or just for the Khmers?

Fast Eddie 48
05-04-06, 21:35
I was in PP a few months ago, and walked all up and down 63rd St. trying to find the famous "63rd St. brothels." I passed a few shabby little buildings where men would motion me inside and show me a room with a few girls in it. Are these the famous brothels? I was sort of expecting something a bit flashier.

Also, some of these brothels are referred to by name as "Lay Lay" and other names, but I never saw any names outside these establishments.

Did I see the "63rd St. brothels" or were the places i saw something else? I'd be grateful if someone would give more detailed info on where these brothels are. Also, are they open during the day or night or both?

On a related matter, there's a street just a block or two east of the Pacific Hotel where there are a bunch of "guest houses" decorated with Christmas lights. I went by some of them and men motioned me inside, and said there were girls upstairs, but I thought it might be a setup and didn't want to go in.

But these shops looked more like what I imagine brothels to look like, with their christmas lights and all. But this street was not 63rd. St. Are these brothels? Are they for the farangs or just for the Khmers?


to gumbyy

Most of this house come and go move around all the time , Just hire a moto
driver to take you , most don't open til 6 pm moto guy will find them for you
and knock on the door and some will open the door , They don't have any sign
at the front at all .


fast eddie 48

Johnson45
05-06-06, 18:00
I was in PP a few months ago and took a moto taxi from the airport. He became my driver for the time I was there. He took me to a few brothels and got me the smoke I wanted. I told him I was returning in a few months and gave him my number in thailand.
Now he sms's me alot to stay in touch but recently called me and was asking me were I lived in thailand, was it a house or a hotel. Told me to tell hime exactly when Im comming so he can pick me up and that "the main thing is that u can trust me".
I don't know why he said that am wondering why all the questions. Maybe its just to secure a regular customer.

When someone asks all these questions and then says trust me It makes me wonder.

Are the taxi's working with NGO's to set people up? or do you think hes just hard up for bussiness and wants to make sure I use him instead of some one else

Native Humper
05-06-06, 19:05
No Johnson he is not working with the NGO's. He is just a good business man and he is following up on his customer (you) so that he will have you again when you return. If you had not told him that you would return soon he probably would not have bothered to stay in contact with you.

Patterson
05-07-06, 06:51
could somebody please tell me what NGOs are what they do etc

Thanks :(

NoCBJ4Me
05-07-06, 20:17
could somebody please tell me what NGOs are what they do etc

Thanks :(

Patterson,

At the top of your screen is the link labled "Abbreviations" This page has most of the abbreviations used in this forum. It's very helpful. I use it.

Here's the "N" section from there:

Newbie A novice hobbyist or novice provider.
NGO Non-Government Organization
Nooner A lunch-time or afternoon session, popular with married hobbyists.
No-Show Escort or Client never shows up for an appointment, does not contact in advance to cancel or warn.
No-Touch No touching allowed. (e.g. No-touch Jack shack, no-touch strip club)
NQBC Non-quitter, but covered. CBJ to completion.
NQBS Non-quitter, but spitter. BBBJTC and spits your ejaculate.
NQNS Non-quitter, non-spitter. BBBJTC and swallows your ejaculate.
NSA No Strings Attached.

nocbj4me

That Asshole
05-08-06, 01:53
WHY go to Cambodia? All the best reasons:

It is a real eye opener for a "western raised" man to visit the brothels of Cambodia or the gogo bars of Pattaya. In fact these should be compulsory trips for every male as he reaches 18 years. Here you can see that women are in fact not as almighty and powerful as they are popularly presented all over western countries. In fact they are cheap, dance naked, eat sperm and fuck in the ass for small change, for the price of a dinner or less. It just makes you feel so good that you wish to sing: "the fuckers are dirt-cheap, la-la-la...".

Whenever I mention to some locals that back at my home women earn the same amount of money for the same job as men do, both Cambodian guys and girls seem shocked. It's impossible! Women should never earn as much as men. That would imbalance the powers of society. Traditionally, in Cambodia (and Thailand) while a man gets $100 for some work a woman only gets $50. This has been wisely observed through the ages to keep them subordinated and dependent of men.

While men look at the meaning of things, women look at the face, the skin. Patch it up with paint and the rot underneath just grows uncontrolled. That is female mentality and that's why wisely they have been kept out of control and leadership. Who wants a flashy facade of a country with a rotting interior?

That's the main reason why it is such a breeze every time to visit Phnom Penh and to fuck them fuckers by the dozen. They don't even get their individual names but all just go by the generic name of : "Fucking Object". It's a total ego trip for any refined gentleman (like you).

Because we are the "people". Yes, the Thai MEN and Cambodian MEN and American MEN and Germ-MEN, etc. And the meat, they are the "servants", the "animals" in all countries. I did not invent the word "b*tch", some wise men of old ages did. Makes one wonder: how did they get the idea? Simply because women when compared to men are nothing but a kind of animal, a sort of dog.

And that is how it should be. So sad to see that how often men betray each other (their own kind) and ally with some female instead. Then the MEN are led into fightng and killing each other. They always regret it afterwards but too late, the damage has been done.

However the massively growing number of sex-tourists seems to put things right. It is just the course of nature. Of course it pisses off the female leadership and they try to implement newer and newer sanctions against MEN and create more and more lies to turn MEN against each other and to fight and kill each other.

But the course of nature cannot be stopped. Sex-tourism is here to stay and to flourish as long as there are sanctions and oppression against MEN in any country. The most important is that sex-tourists support each other and other MEN. We are all in the same shoes. You all can do your little bit in Cambodia and back in your home.

1./ Support other MEN when there is argument. Refuse "meat-induced-aggression"! By supporting other MEN, you are also supoorting yourself. If you ally with "meat" you are cutting the branch under yourself.

2./ Veto all women's movements. They by necessity are all anti-male. If they rule us we all suck. But if WE rule them, we all get a fuck!

3./ Withdraw your support from women's businesses and women politicians. They take jobs away from capable and trained men. Women are often employed just because of "political correctness", even though they are totally unsuitable for the job. They also lead you into violence and agression (see above).

4./ Support worldwide PEACE by becoming an active sex-tourist. Refuse to fight but buy your meat for cash. Make love and not war. When you share your meat you are making love and worldwide peace and undersatnding.

By following the above principals we all can help to make a better world for everyone, in every country. Think about it!

Giotto
05-08-06, 04:49
WHY go to Cambodia? All the best reasons:

...

By following the above principals we all can help to make a better world for everyone, in every country. Think about it!

Humble Turd,

you posted two outstanding reports in the General Info thread. Why not go ahead with that instead of posting weird philosophies?


Giotto

Pak Mike
05-08-06, 05:23
Had to get back to Sophies for another round of their bar stool BBBJ. After settling at the bar with a beer and sampling the BBBJ of about 5-6 girls, decided to narrow it down this time to 3 of the best, sent the others on their way with a $1 tip.

With one girl in front between by legs working on my cock with her mouth and the other two on either side with tops up and tits bared, and my hands under their skirts feeling their naked arses, got down to work. Some words mentioned across the bar and a handful of tissues appeared on the bar top. I reintegrated that I wanted CIM and swallow, not blowing my load into tissues. Some discussion followed between the girls, and there was a change of guard between my legs as I gather the first one wasn’t into swallowing. Good choice, as the one who was previously on my left and now in front working my cock over was good, a nice deep gently sucking motion.

The girl on my left was giving me a good nipple sucking, while I was having a go at sucking the meaty dark nipples of the other gal on my right. Not big racks on these gals, but nicely shaped.

A nice finish, with CIM and swallow. Guided one of the other girls down to my half-erect cock for a bit of finish-up sucking, always a nice touch. The girl in front was now standing up, and I cupped my hands around her arse, one of the nicest I have felt. Slipped my hand between her legs, and surprise, surprise, she was dripping wet!!! This resulted in an instant recovery and hard-on for me, with the second girl now working towards another CIM.

I had other ideas. After some quick negotiations it was all three girls for $10 each into one of the rooms. I had not planned this, but that dripping wet pussy I had to have. Was quickly capped, and had Miss wet pussy on all fours for a doggy. Having just shot my load a short time ago, knew this was going to be a long, hard, furious fuck. This was good, as I was pounding her she grabbed some of the bed cover and put it into her mouth to muffle the sounds. The other two girls just sat wide-eyed as I pounded her from behind. Shot my second load (what there was of it), and as I’m withdrawing hoping that the condom hasn’t broken after such a hard fuck. Luckily it hadn’t. Miss wet pussy was now lying on the bed out of breath, legs apart, and what a view of that well fucked juicy pussy.

Had a quick wash up, and back onto the bed for a bit of a kiss and cuddle. The two other girls started to prattle on about how handsome and strong I was (yeah, yeah, yeah!!!) and were attempting to revive my now limp cock, but nothing doing, I was in need of some serious recovery time.

Returned to the bar for another beer and round of lady drinks, before heading home. After such a good session was feeling generous. All up cost for this episode was tips for initial BBBJs $3, 6 lady drinks $12, BBBJ at bar with the three gals $15, fuck in room with the three gals $30. I guess I could have been a cheap Charlie and bargained this down, but they were great girls with good attitude doing their best to please. I suppose if I was a bit younger, could have rogered the other two girls, or at least one, in the room, but after two loads I was done.

I don’t think it comes any better than this.

Erik
05-08-06, 19:51
Jackson, may I suggest you delete the sexist and reactionnary prose of Humble Turd, post 1113 ? This is not helping our human kind orientated, tolerant and women loving forum. Thanks.

Pute Nut
05-08-06, 20:22
jackson, may i suggest you delete the sexist and reactionnary prose of humble turd, post 1113 ? this is not helping our human kind orientated, tolerant and women loving forum. thanks.

omg, an appeal for isg to go pc, and in the cambo section to boot...lol.

look at it this way, my friend. you are both working towards the same goals. a more loving and peaceful world. (actually i notice now that you don't claim that you want peace,..but for the sake of argument, let's assume that you are a peaceful lad)


support worldwide peace by becoming an active sex-tourist. refuse to fight but buy your meat for cash. make love and not war. when you share your meat you are making love and worldwide peace and undersatnding..

cheers, pute nut [ supporting love, peace, understanding and free speech ]

Shamas
05-12-06, 15:54
could somebody please tell me what NGOs are what they do etc

Thanks :(
NGOs come in different wrappers but the bottom line is they stick their noses in other peoples business.

Some work with the local governments as advisors or in a liason type of postion. Basically trying to make the locals like the US.

some work for religious based groups trying to save us from ourselves and again trying to convert the locals to US standards.

Some work with relief groups helping with medical problems, drug dependency, street people, anti prostitution and all things that will help them be like Bush.

Some are good people, others are driven to extremes. Some of them fabricate stories and give false reports to keep up their fundings which supports them. Some are criminals who wrap themselves in a flag of I'm saving the world and I can do anything to achieve that goal.

Lets see if this starts a big todo

Shamas

Old Thai Hand
05-13-06, 03:53
[QUOTE=Humble Turd]WHY go to Cambodia? All the best reasons:

While men look at the meaning of things, women look at the face, the skin. Patch it up with paint and the rot underneath just grows uncontrolled. That is female mentality and that's why wisely they have been kept out of control and leadership. Who wants a flashy facade of a country with a rotting interior?.

Because we are the "people". Yes, the Thai MEN and Cambodian MEN and American MEN and Germ-MEN, etc. And the meat, they are the "servants", the "animals" in all countries. I did not invent the word "b*tch", some wise men of old ages did. Makes one wonder: how did they get the idea? Simply because women when compared to men are nothing but a kind of animal, a sort of dog.


You are obviously a mere visitor to Asia and don't really understand the dynamics here at all. I am more and more getting fed up with guys with your attitude coming here.

The reality here is that in fact women have considerably more control than is apparent on the surface. They control the money in most households. So, while men may be making more than women, it's the women who in fact control all the money regardless of where it comes from. In most households, women dole out a tiny allowance to the men in order to control men's spendthrift ways. Your average man in SE Asia is an irresponsible simpleton who drinks, gambles and fucks to excess. The vast majority of SE Asian men accomplish very little. As an educator in this region, I can attest to the fact that the best students by far are women. Males rank far below women in every category.
Viewing Asian women the way you do, may make you feel superior. But, it also makes you look no better than the Asian men whom I have just described.

Old Thai Hand
05-13-06, 04:13
WHY go to Cambodia? All the best reasons:

While men look at the meaning of things, women look at the face, the skin. Patch it up with paint and the rot underneath just grows uncontrolled. That is female mentality and that's why wisely they have been kept out of control and leadership. Who wants a flashy facade of a country with a rotting interior?.

Because we are the "people". Yes, the Thai MEN and Cambodian MEN and American MEN and Germ-MEN, etc. And the meat, they are the "servants", the "animals" in all countries. I did not invent the word "b*tch", some wise men of old ages did. Makes one wonder: how did they get the idea? Simply because women when compared to men are nothing but a kind of animal, a sort of dog.You are obviously a mere visitor to Asia, albeit and experienced one. Yet, you don't seem to really understand the dynamics here at all. I am more and more getting fed up with guys with your attitude coming here.

The reality here is that in fact women have considerably more control than is apparent on the surface. They control the money in most households. So, while men may be making more than women, it's the women who in fact control all the money regardless of where it comes from. In most households, women dole out a tiny allowance to the men in order to control men's spendthrift ways. Your average man in SE Asia is an irresponsible simpleton who drinks, gambles and fucks to excess. The vast majority of SE Asian men accomplish very little. As an educator in this region, I can attest to the fact that the best students by far are women. Males rank far below women in every category.
Viewing Asian women the way you do, may make you feel superior. But, it also makes you look no better than the Asian men whom I have just described.

Pak Mike
05-13-06, 05:07
Well said OTH, spot on !!!

Mai Yao
05-16-06, 11:44
Those of you that have met Frank, the former G.M. of Flamingos Hotel might want to know that he is seriously ill. He collapsed about ten days ago and was taken to Camillan Hosp. Cardiac Care unit. He had had a heart attack and was on life support. Friends, especially Ed, the propriator of the new HOOTERS BAR, just down 174 from Walkabout rally'd around him, raising funds from friends in Phnom Phen and on the internet to help pay the $300+ daily for his care. Cambodia is pay as you go: no money=no meds.

After five days of touch and go, he began a steady improvement, regained conciousness and is now breathing on his own. He has a lot of problems beside his heart: diabetes, emphaseema, a persistent lung infection and now a severe bedsore that will be slow to heal, but at least he is alive and talking; complaining actually.

If you are interested, stop into HOOTERS and see Ed, he has doing most of the work keeping Frank alive and deserves a lot of credit.

Matt Navan Man
05-16-06, 12:12
[QUOTE=Humble Turd]

I am more and more getting fed up with guys with your attitude coming here.Am with you on this one OTH. Having lived in Cambodia before for a few years, there is no doubt that women command levels of power within the family far greater than in the "West", albeit only in regards to certain aspects of life.

On a recent trip to SE Asia I also noted an increase of these undesirables although mostly in Thailand. Thankfully Cambodia is, for the most part, still shielded from the likes of Turd below (although you'll always get a few muppets slipping through).

Jaimito Cartero
05-16-06, 17:25
Those of you that have met Frank, the former G.M. of Flamingos Hotel might want to know that he is seriously ill. He collapsed about ten days ago and was taken to Camillan Hosp. Cardiac Care unit. He had had a heart attack and was on life support.

Is this the chain smoking guy?

Mai Yao
05-17-06, 12:48
Is this the chain smoking guy?Yup, and a little short on hair; topside.

Shamas
05-18-06, 06:39
As reported Frank is getting better. A western doctor visited him the other day, reports said the Canadian Embassy arranged for the visit.

Fronk is breathing on his own and is now able to communicate but he's still bed ridden.

Biggest problem is taking care of him. Appears that if you are in a Khmer Hospital, you'll have to supply your own support.

Some of the local westerners who are friends of Frank's are helping and they are taking donations. They are also hiring people to take care of Frank.

Cambodia is for the healthy

Shamas O'D

Bono1305
05-22-06, 00:17
As reported Frank is getting better. A western doctor visited him the other day, reports said the Canadian Embassy arranged for the visit.

Fronk is breathing on his own and is now able to communicate but he's still bed ridden.

Biggest problem is taking care of him. Appears that if you are in a Khmer Hospital, you'll have to supply your own support.

Some of the local westerners who are friends of Frank's are helping and they are taking donations. They are also hiring people to take care of Frank.

Cambodia is for the healthy

Shamas O'DSad to hear about that, but dont he have any kind of insuance to cover the bill in the hospital.

Shamas
05-22-06, 06:11
Sad to hear about that, but dont he have any kind of insuance to cover the bill in the hospital.

Medical care in Cambodia is nothing like most of us are used to.

There are very few facilities/Doctors/supplies.

From what I understand Frank has no insurance and I doubt there are any types of Cambodian Medical Insurance plans.

If you need to stay in the hospital, you have to provide all of your own support. No nurses, therapy or any of the creature comforts we all expect at home.

The Canadian Embassy did get a doctor to see him and they are also helping contact his family back home, much beyond that he has to rely on the great guys who are expending their time and efforts to provide for him.

As I said, Cambodia is for the health, not the sick. If you're going to get sick, get to Thailand quickly.

Shamas O'D

Mai Yao
05-22-06, 12:26
I'm sad to report that Frank, former GM of Flamingos Hotel in Phnom Phen passed away today May 22, at 0200.

Though he seemed to rally after his collapse last week, it was becoming clear to him that his future lay in a wheelchain, dependent on relatives in Canada.

Frank had lived an independent life in China and SEAsia for many years, to end up that way would have been hell for him, I believe he checked out because Cambodia is where he wanted to die, among friends.

When he learned of the tremendous outpouring of support he received over the last few weeks, from close friends to people he had never met, he was really moved and grateful.

He died knowing a lot of people cared for him and that he had lived his life as he wanted; what more could any of us ask for.

Kens14
05-22-06, 14:32
Frank was truly the finest type of chap we could hope to share a few Anchor's with whilst in the field of operations.

His medical insurance status is neither here nor there when you consider his philosophy of life. He was incredibly widely read, cognisant of all SEA politics and a truly experienced man in the world of p4p. 30 mins spent chatting to Frank was worth 10 weeks of mistakes, disappointments and rip offs. He will be sadly missed, but he lived life at full throttle, was fearless in the face of dreaded ageing and was a cantankerous old goat to the end !

You'll be sadly missed, but pick out a cutie for me in the big beer bar in the sky !

Kens.

Jaimito Cartero
05-22-06, 16:25
Frank was truly the finest type of chap we could hope to share a few Anchor's with whilst in the field of operations.

You'll be sadly missed, but pick out a cutie for me in the big beer bar in the sky !

Kens.

Is he dead? The most recent reports state he was getting better in the hospital. Your post is somewhat unclear.

NoCBJ4Me
05-23-06, 05:13
Is he dead? The most recent reports state he was getting better in the hospital. Your post is somewhat unclear.

Jaimito,

Read post #1129 Passed away means he has died. It reads, to me, as if he took himself out instead of facing a wheelchair bound life. I'd do it too.

Rest in Peace Frank.

nocbj4me

Shamas
05-23-06, 05:56
I just finished reading the original posting on Frank's death, I'm not exactly sure of what route he took when leaving this life, it doesn't matter, he was a good ole boy, lots of class and a swell person. May the memory of Frank live on for a L O N G Time.

Shamas O'Dognasty
Gourmet Catering &
Septic Tank Cleaning

Jaimito Cartero
05-24-06, 16:47
Jaimito,

Read post #1129 Passed away means he has died. It reads, to me, as if he took himself out instead of facing a wheelchair bound life. I'd do it too.

At the time I posted my reply, the other message did not show. (Regular members posts get delayed)

I didn't know him, other than seeing him at Flamingo's earlier this year. I'd agree that it's better to go quick than a long lingering death.

Member #1762
05-27-06, 11:46
i will be making my second trip to cambodia this august, and was wondering just how much easier it was to get around. my last trip was in june of 2001, before the bridge at koh kong and when the highway from there inland was still closed.

i was planning to do a repeat of my last trip, overland from bangkok, down to trat by bus, then over to koh kong by the border van and moto. from there i was planning on going to sianookville, but was wondering if the boat or highway was the better route these days.

i will take the bus up from snookey to pp and then take the boat up to sr. do you guys still think this is the best way to go, or are there better options now. also, has inflation and more tourists jacked up the cost of travel?

to my great sadness, i know k11 is no more. i admit i am glad they shut down the **** business, those guys should burn in hell in my book, but it is sad that all the viet girls who were of age are gone as well. is there another good brothel area there now, or are clubs like sophies, sharkey's (the best fuck of my life came from that place) and martinee's the best bets now?

also, for you guys who have been there in august, just how wet does it get. i was ducking out at the start of the monsoon season last time and have no desire to be in a flooded pp street, no telling what you would catch in that water.

i plan to use hotel california again, as it was great on my last visit and seems to be keeping a good rep with the new owners, but any suggestions for decent hotel of about the same quality in snookey and sr?

funny story of my last trip and the hotel in koh kong. forget the name, but it is the one nearest the farm. i am in my room sleeping late at night and i hear what sounds like fingers drumming against my room door. think it might be the girl i had st during the day as she planned to come back for an over night. so, i open the door, and no one is there. kinda creeping, my second night in town.

so get back in bed, am about to drop back off when the rapping starts again. open the door, and again, no one is there. now i am getting pariniod. my room is at the end of the hall, am i about to get jumped and robbed.

so i turn on my room light to call the front desk, when i suddenly discover the source of the rapping. two lizards are chasing each other around the room on the walls near the ceiling. seems a liizard monger wanted a little pussy as well. turned off the light and wished him well with his girl as i went back to sleep.

will be sure to take lots of photos and post them for you guys.

also, if you ever come to osaka and need some info, let me know. been here for 7 years now and have got the scene down pretty good. just know that pussy here is gonna cost you stateside prices or higher.

thanks for any help.

Bold Focker
05-27-06, 22:43
Does anyone know if they have wi-fi in Cambodia. Ideally I would like a hotel with complementary wi-fi, as these hotspot suppliers are bloody expensive!

I will probable stay at the Paris Hotel in Phnom Penh. Does anyone know if this hotel has a guest internet terminal?

I wanted wi-fi as I was hoping to send photos home and I have a PDA, not a laptop.

Tazzy Devil
05-28-06, 04:10
I was planning to do a repeat of my last trip, overland from Bangkok, down to Trat by bus, then over to Koh Kong by the border van and moto. From there I was planning on going to Sianookville, but was wondering if the boat or highway was the better route these days.

I plan to use Hotel California again, as it was great on my last visit and seems to be keeping a good rep with the new owners, but any suggestions for decent hotel of about the same quality in Snookey and SR?My last trip to Sihanoukville was in March 06 & went by the ferry, price is now $20 USD, up $5. Was talking with Bob from KKK & he told me he drove from Koh Kong to Sihanoukville a couple of weeks before & the road was very good. (may be different squeezed up in a minibus though).

2 good budget airlines worth checking out for your return
http://www.pmtair.com/www/index.php#search_name
http://www.airasia.com/

Check on reports in "other areas" I have posted a good website for hotels & guesthouses in Sihanoukville, plus some recent info.

The "downtown" area would be the prefered area to stay.

G'Day Mate guesthouse is worth a look & so is The Small Hotel

Member #1762
05-29-06, 11:16
I took Tazzy's advice and checked out Air Asia. For a one way ticket from PP to Bangkok on 29 August, my departure day, its an amazing $10! My god, the airport tax is double the airfare, bringing the total cost to 30.50 USD!

Now that is what I call a hell of a bargain. Now the question is, do I get a seat or get strapped to the wing at that price :-)

Stew2
05-29-06, 19:46
I took Tazzy's advice and checked out Air Asia. For a one way ticket from PP to Bangkok on 29 August, my departure day, its an amazing $10! My god, the airport tax is double the airfare, bringing the total cost to 30.50 USD!

Now that is what I call a hell of a bargain. Now the question is, do I get a seat or get strapped to the wing at that price :-)

You got overcharged by Air Asia - I'm doing the same flight in a couple weeks for $29.50 - same $10 flight! As to the wing seating, I'll let you know...

Pak Mike
05-30-06, 00:20
Does anyone know if they have wi-fi in Cambodia. Ideally I would like a hotel with complementary wi-fi, as these hotspot suppliers are bloody expensive!

I will probable stay at the Paris Hotel in Phnom Penh. Does anyone know if this hotel has a guest internet terminal?

I wanted wi-fi as I was hoping to send photos home and I have a PDA, not a laptop.

Check out http://www.online.com.kh/cp/hs/ for the hotspots provided by this company in PP and SR. There ae one or two other providers, but have not used their services. The rate is around $3/hr via a pre-paid card available in many hotels, however the number of hotel hotspots is limited. Am not aware of any hotels with who provide this service free.

Pak Mike
05-30-06, 12:11
Visited the Golden Vine, in 108 street, near corner of 51 street. This place is the same set up as so many other similar places in PP, bar and seating with pool table and probably around a dozen gals. I never see many tourists in these places, and generally they appear to be frequented by local expats.

On entering I latched eyes on a cutey behind the bar, looked into her eyes, she looked into mine, nice smile, and I thought I want you tonight. Sat down at the bar and ordered a beer with this cute gal. She must have read my mind, as the second sentence out of her mouth was that she had her periods. Blast!!! By this time I had attracted the attention of an older Vietnamese gal, nice and I’m sure to the liking of many, but not just my fancy. Got the usual cold face towel treatment from this Vietnamese and back/neck massage, but rather telling her to nick off, just acted cool and disinterested, and eventually she wondered off and lefty me in peace.

The “specialty” of the Golden Vine is that some of the girls dance on top of the bar. Nothing like what you would see in Bangkok, they are fully clothed and the dancing is nothing out of the bag, but nevertheless does provide some distraction.

This place has some nice gals, probably one of the best selections I’ve seen in PP. One gal, very proudly I might add, was sporting one of the most magnificent cleavages I’ve seen in Asia, magnormous (for an Asian). The cutey I had my eye on was totally flat chested, absolutely nothing, but nice figure and nice smile with big eyes and nice personality. But not to be had that night I’m afraid.

Returned a couple of days later, asked this cutey how she was, and got the “all clear”. I was horny as hell, so wasn’t going linger too long. Told her to get changed and we would be on our way. Just as I was finishing my beer she started to give me the “I’m no good” line, pointing at her non-existent bust line. I checked down the front of her top, yes no bust to speak about, but lovely big nipples. She was plainly dressed, no jewelry, rings, piles of make-up and mobile phone, so obviously she is not the most popular gal in the bar and probably hasn’t been working for very long. My thinking is that these gals are more often far better performers in the sack and have better attitudes than a lot of those pumped up temperamental spoilt princesses one often comes across in these places.

Back at my hotel, once into the room is was DFK, initialed by this gal, and straight into the shower for a scrub up. She certainly enjoyed the hotel shampoos and soaps, and after washing her hair was on her knees in the shower giving me one the best BBBJs I have had in ages. I knew I wouldn’t last long, she was sensational, and sure enough after a few minutes blew a big load into her mouth, with her swallowing every last drop. I was quite surprised, expecting a spit-out as we were in the shower, but nothing. She looked up and said something along the lines “now you can boom-boom me long-time”. She was right, if her pussy were half as good as that mouth of hers, I wouldn’t have lasted 5 minutes.

Onto the bed and she as back to my cock with her mouth to get me prepared for round two. Capped myself (she was no expert in this area, and I wanted to be sure), and found her to be nicely tight and wet. Fiddled around for a while in a few different positions, but she eventually got me into a position where we were facing each other on our sides, her right leg up over my arm and her foot in my back, and her other leg under me and foot on my behind. This provided good pumping leverage and her foot on my behind was conducting the rhythm she wanted. It was long, hard and fast, and from the noise she was making, much to her liking. After probably 10 minutes I felt her legs tighten around me and with both feet on my behind my cock was pushed deep inside her pussy, I couldn’t move. I could feel the rhythmic contractions of her pussy as she cum. Mmmm, this girl liked her sex.

After two shots, I was done. So we washed up and drifted off to sleep. Woke around 6 AM for another round, which as basically a repeat of the previous session. VERY VERY nice, a good way to start the day. By 7:30 she was washed, dressed and on her way. A difficult moment as I suddenly realized that I hadn’t negotiated a price, and at no stage had this come up. She was on her way out and hadn’t asked for money, so I handed her $20, which went straight into her pocket without a glance.

So, overall, a nice find. As I have found, sometimes these unspectacular girls can be good lays with a nice attitude. Will put the Golden Vine onto my list.

Pak Mike
05-31-06, 06:04
There were three of us the other night at the bar having our knobs polished, this place is becoming popular!

What next, booking required?

The service level was still good, a nice BBBJ with CIM, so no complaints there.

Jaimito Cartero
05-31-06, 06:59
Does anyone know if they have wi-fi in Cambodia. Ideally I would like a hotel with complementary wi-fi, as these hotspot suppliers are bloody expensive!

I will probable stay at the Paris Hotel in Phnom Penh. Does anyone know if this hotel has a guest internet terminal?

I wanted wi-fi as I was hoping to send photos home and I have a PDA, not a laptop.

When I stayed at the Flamingo I found a wireless pay for use system there, but nothing free. I've been inside the Paris once, and don't recall seeing any internet downstairs, but I was heading up for a massage, so I could have easily missed it.

Ekspat
05-31-06, 07:21
There were three of us the other night at the bar having our knobs polished, this place is becoming popular!

I'd say, Sophie's is popular since years.
Have a good time, mate!
Cheers!

Pak Mike
05-31-06, 11:13
Made a eturn visit to DV8, street 148 down near the river front. Never gets too busy here in my experience, and the girls seem just a bit more naughty than a lot of the other similar bars, apart from places like Sophie etc.

Went up to the second floor balcony with a couple of gals, which has a view over the street and a popular eating place on the corner usually full of tourists. Settled with the two gals, a beer and a couple of lady drinks, so wasn't long before the hanky-panky started. Both gals quite nice, with good sized tits, but a little thick around the middle for my liking. Bit of nipple sucking, and not long before gal 1 is giving me a nice BBBJ as I gaze down across the street and hoping that nobody climbs the stairs. CIM, which was nice, and the pot plant nearby received some unexpected "fertilizing" with her spit-out. Gal 2 then has a go. Not sure what sort of studs she hangs out with, but no way I was going to pop a second time without a reasonable rest period. The way she was going at it I was sure to end up with a red raw cock, so called a holt.

A couple more rounds of drinks, then I was on my way. $5 each for the service kept the girls happy.

Mastorr
05-31-06, 18:48
Pak,

Do you know the gal name on Golden Vine?

It seems great gal.

I will stay in September in PP.

Thanks,

Pak Mike
06-01-06, 00:18
Pak,

Do you know the gal name on Golden Vine?

It seems great gal.

I will stay in September in PP.

Thanks,

Sorry, can never remember these names. Besides, there seems to be quite a turnover of these gals, and by September will be a few new faces I'm sure.

Seraphim7
06-01-06, 05:05
Last time I was in PP there were also some fine cuties in the bar next to Golden Vine - VooDoo Lounge. Bar is run by a real personality lady who is ultra good looking but has lt boyfriend. But the girls in the bar are really nice and also dance on the bar with a little encouragement. A couple are really good - names start with A but can't remember. This part of Street 108 uis starting to develop nicely

Matt Navan Man
06-05-06, 18:13
No offense SovanMee but can anybody else confirm that Svay Pak is open again?

Could it be that Christmas has come (very) early this year.

Fast Eddie 48
06-06-06, 06:22
No offense SovanMee but can anybody else confirm that Svay Pak is open again?

Could it be that Christmas has come (very) early this year.


to matt

There are only 5 house open unless there are more than 20-30 house open it
is waste of time to travel all the way there , There is plenty of action in town.


fast eddie 48

John05
06-06-06, 15:16
From what I saw on TV, SVAY PARK is a small run down part of town outside of PP. Did the USG close down the entire town? Wow! Was it that bad? I had heard you could find short time there for $5 but who knows now.

Roguesta
06-06-06, 16:41
Check out the Billabong Hotel for free wifi. I cannot remember the exact address, but it was about four blocks from The Walkabout Hotel.

Fast Eddie 48
06-06-06, 21:35
From what I saw on TV, SVAY PARK is a small run down part of town outside of PP. Did the USG close down the entire town? Wow! Was it that bad? I had heard you could find short time there for $5 but who knows now.


to john 05

Yes it is small village all dirt road and shack with dirty small bed , You can get st service in phnom penh also for 5 buck, I don't think svay pak is closed completly there are alway a few pimp hanging around the area .

fast eddie 48

John05
06-07-06, 14:33
I was talking with a buddy of mine at work yesterday. He said that he knew a man who went to PP for 2 or 3 days and ended up staying a month. Must be pretty good mongering in PP. Do you guys think that it is better than Bangkok?

Samu Ray
06-07-06, 16:10
Svay Pak is about 30 mm ride by bus or moto, out north of Phnom Penh.
When it was in full operation, up until around 2003 or ´04, there were,
probably from 35 to 40 houses, each from 10 to 20 young Vietnamese
girls. Those houses were spread out in three blocks, main street, and also
in a couple of small blocks to the side of the main street.

It was last November 2005 I visited the place last. Everything was closed.


I will try to post pictures I took in 2002.This is how it used to be Svay Pak,
if you took the time making your selection, you sure would find a alovely
girl, like in the picture, to take her to your hotel, all for $ 20 all night!

Hollow Man
06-08-06, 06:07
I was talking with a buddy of mine at work yesterday. He said that he knew a man who went to PP for 2 or 3 days and ended up staying a month. Must be pretty good mongering in PP. Do you guys think that it is better than Bangkok?It's that prices that make me stay so long. 5-10 ST and 20 LT. Hotel with TV and aircon and maid service $8. Bangkok I think you'll find more quality. Cambodia holds quantity with ok to good quality. However the rare stunners are much cheaper than thailand. When you find them and you will always find a few, sometimes with help.

Prince Harry
06-09-06, 22:29
I was talking with a buddy of mine at work yesterday. He said that he knew a man who went to PP for 2 or 3 days and ended up staying a month. Must be pretty good mongering in PP. Do you guys think that it is better than Bangkok?Maate it is MUCH better than bangkok.

I was in PP last week and visited circe,shanghai,mikado etc etc.

I was the only barang in any of these places on two consecutice nights.

The girls were lovely,much more gentle than the thais and NO tatoos.

I took two mates from mikado,one vietnamese and one cambodian.We went out the side door to the short time hotel next door to a nice room where I got great service.
All for $12 each.

I found the women all over cambodia to be far superior to the thai and I did finish the trip with thre days R and R in Pattaya where there were few stunners.

Patarse
06-10-06, 06:20
Hollow Man,

I am travelling to Pnom Phen in a few months. I would be grateful for information on $8 hotel. I was there 3 years ago and stayed at the Paris $25.

Thank you.

Pattya Arsehole Fucker

Bold Focker
06-10-06, 10:38
I took Tazzy's advice and checked out Air Asia. For a one way ticket from PP to Bangkok on 29 August, my departure day, its an amazing $10! My god, the airport tax is double the airfare, bringing the total cost to 30.50 USD!

Now that is what I call a hell of a bargain. Now the question is, do I get a seat or get strapped to the wing at that price :-)I will let you know in July, I have same flight. did you book return flight.

Might have problems getting in if you do not have booked return flight!

Tazzy Devil
06-11-06, 02:08
I will let you know in July, I have same flight. did you book return flight.

Might have problems getting in if you do not have booked return flight!I am asuming you mean that Cambodian Immigration will ask for a return ticket ?

Never had any problems, they ask "how long you stay" & have never had them ask for a return ticket.

In the past I have only bought 1 way tickets as I end up going to Sihanoukville & go back to Thailand via Koh Kong. Tell them this if asked

I have had a couple of travel agencies around Pattaya want to sell me a return ticket telling me that they can not issue 1 way tickets but I just go somewhere else.
Now with the budget carriers using the net is the way to go

Hollow Man
06-11-06, 09:53
Hollow Man,

I am travelling to Pnom Phen in a few months. I would be grateful for information on $8 hotel. I was there 3 years ago and stayed at the Paris $25.There is a short time hotel connected to Mikado. I decided one trip to stay in the ST room with mirrors on all the walls and ceilings, porno on the tv, and funky colored lights (optional switch) so I went there and asked for the room and he said no more $8, only $10 rooms.

So i smiled and said "How about a discount then, you give me for $8?" He got the apprehensive look so I quikly said "Aww c'mon, I come here alot. Discount no problem ok?" He said "ok." and that was that. When I went upstairs lo and behold....

He didnt give me the tiny porno room. I got this good sized room with TV, Air-con, and fridge with the view of the street outside. I didnt even know this place had large rooms like this.

I think the name of it was "Hotel deville" or Deveaulle. Anyway just say Mikado and motos should be able to take you there. The room when compared to Paris hotel.. I liked the deville better. Paris had a better high rise view but Deville felt more relaxed with Mikado to the left and Cycree across the street if I ever felt lazy. It's also 3 blocks from Sharky's. and about 3-4 blocks from Central market/Sorya Mall.

Pansted00
06-12-06, 05:15
I will be at the Intercon next week.

Any action there? Any massage place?

If not, anybody got tel number sof FL's I can call to come to my room.

Lee66
06-12-06, 07:10
sp is not open, there are monkey boys around . but those cement houses are closed . they have old wooden structures, most likely with no electric, you can go to with $40 girls 19- 22 yr old that are $5 in pp.

Patterson
06-12-06, 10:22
Hi Guys

I will be in PP next week which are your 3 top spots for the girls :)

Cheers

Traffic777
06-12-06, 16:30
According to CIA website, some French is spoken in Cambodia. How popular is it and how do I go about finding people that speak it fluently?

Roguesta
06-12-06, 17:23
I was in Phnom Penh talking to four girls. I don't know why I did, but I said something in French. I speak very little French. Excitedly, everyone of them starting speaking French to me like machine guns. I had to direct them back to their broken English, and decided that in the future, I wouldn't try to impress them with my 'worldliness'.

I don't think it will be difficult finding French speakers in Cambodia.

Matt Navan Man
06-12-06, 21:25
Hi Guys

I will be in PP next week which are your 3 top spots for the girls :)

CheersDepends which type of girl you want. I give my list as follows:

Take out: Martini, Sharky and Walkabout (only if well oiled alcohol wise!)
Take in: Cyrcee, Sophie and dodgy Khmer place off Kampuchea Krom
Beer and banter: Dingo, Green Vespa and Memphis (for the live music)

Rising Son
06-13-06, 02:14
HI, ALL –

Just got back from a little more than two months in PP, and wanted to share a few things.

First, it’s still possible to have a great time. It’s just more difficult. This was in some ways one of the best trips I’ve ever had, both in terms of the quantity and quality of the ladies I spent time with, but it takes more work and more planning than it did in the great old days, especially to enjoy yourself in the daytime. I’ll get to that in a bit, but first here’s a rundown on the venues we all know and, in some cases, love.

One note: I was there at the end of the tourist season and the beginning of the slow season, so it was definitely a buyer’s market. For the girls, it’s cell-phone selling season. Things will be different in November and December.

Martini – yes, it’s too dark; yes, the disco is a smoky closet; yes, the selection is hit-and-miss, but in today’s Phnom Penh, it’s still the best game in town. Many of the old favorites (as well as the old dreadfuls) are still around, but there are enough new girls, both Khmer and VN, to keep things interesting. There seems to be more mama-san activity, probably in part because much of the new talent speaks zero English. One interesting thing: there are many, many more Asian men in the club – probably a strategy on Charlie’s part to keep the place busy during slow season and also an acknowledgment that Chinese tourism is on the rise. As we all know, many Asian guys overpay, and that might be the reason many of the better-looking girls are trying to push the price up. Still, I was with about a dozen girls I’d never seen before, at the usual price, although I wouldn’t bet on that being the case in high season.

Sophie’s – Killer. Some of the same girls, a few new ones, and the level of service (and insanity) are as high as ever. Went eight or nine times and it was a home run every time. Be sure to ask for the room with the lights; they’ve actually both got lights but the girls are reluctant to turn them on in one of the rooms because the light is visible from the street, and I guess there’s still some cop paranoia about the rooms.

Le Cyrcee – Well . . . There are some very nice girls, but the no underwear rule either no longer exists or is up to the girl herself, and the rooms, as a million people have noted, have become pretty expensive. Still, there are some real honeys here. The trick (as with Sophie’s) is to get them out of the club without paying the bar fine, and that’s what telephones are for. More about telephones below.

Mikado – not the most beautiful girls, but some of the sweetest and most accommodating. No underpants is the general rule, and the rooms upstairs, which are immaculate and even mirrored, with clean sheets and bathrooms, are only $5 (per girl). Tip is up to you. Went there half a dozen times, went upstairs on about half of the visits, and always had a good time. Get there early, when there are 12-18 girls hanging around instead of the 4-5 rejects you’ll often find after 10 or so.


Walkabout – Dirty as ever, with the usual assortment of girls ranging from absolutely horrific to (occasionally) sensational. Best time is probably quite late at night, after 12, when the action has slowed elsewhere. Also, got to love the availability of the short-time rooms right on the premises. (By the way, you can get a room that’s better for a dollar less at Chay Hour I – four bucks instead of five.)

Sharky’s – On the rise. More girls, and better girls, than a year ago (it would be hard for it to be worse than it was a year ago), and the food remains pretty good. There are some new girls, including a few real lovelies, and some of the old favorites (my old favorites, at least) are still hanging around. The nice thing is that so many of the guys are really there to drink, so they’re not competition for the talent. The music is, if possible, even worse than ever, and – believe it or not – even louder. On the other hand, there’s now air conditioning, which is occasionally effective.


Toul Kork – Awful. I used to love it, but now the houses are dirtier than ever, most of the girls look like they’ve been used as driveways, and the service is terrible. Fifteen minutes seems to be the default. Shower, hit the room, and before you’re flat on your back she’s hocking to put the condom on you. I had two girls try to charge extra for bj action, if you can believe that. And generally, the friendliness factor is close to absolute zero if not actually measured in negative numbers.

Street 63 – Also in decline. The number of ripoff houses has risen. By “ripoff house,” I mean a place where the only reason they want you to remove your pants is so they can get your wallet. Some of the places that wave you in most enthusiastically are in this category. I wish I could identify them, but it’s hard to describe which ones they are. Someone who wants to do all of us a good turn should drive down 63 in the daytime and photograph the worst offenders and post them on the board. There are still a few honest houses, and still some nice girls, but harder to find than before. I’d suggest you pair up with someone who knows the scene, if you don’t, and let him guide you. The first house on the left nearest Sihanouk Boulevard is still on the up-and-up, and there are a few good girls.

Hostess bars – I don’t get it. I know some of you guys swear by them, but my time in Phnom Penh is too precious to spend days and bucks buying drinks for girls I’ll never screw, and I’m certainly not interested in spending weeks to take to bed a girl who’s no prettier than a hundred others I could do after 30 seconds of conversation. The whole thing is just too much like the West for me – waste time and money and probably don’t get laid.

Svay Pak – RIP.

Other bars – Golden Vine has some pretty girls dancing on the bar (clothed, unfortunately) but I could never quite figure out the take-out policy. DV8 is still there, and once in a while there’s a nice-looking girl. Rose, same story. There’s a new disco called Golden Star (I think) that gets dozens and dozens of great-looking girls by the simple expedient of paying them five bucks to show up and stay the evening. If you want to take one, you give the bar its 5 buck back as a bar fine. Unfortunately, the clientele is largely local and some of them are pretty drunk, so tread carefully. Worth a careful look.

So – how to maximize your time?

1. Phone numbers. Get a phone if you don’t have one. Get the number of any girl who takes good care of you, any girl who looks like she might take good care of you, and the mama-sans of any girls who, etc. The mama-sans at Martini are a pain in the ass but watch which girls flock to which mama-san, learn the girl’s name, and get the mama-san’s number if the girl doesn’t have a phone. If a girl you like doesn’t have a phone, ask for her best friend’s number or the number of a girl she shares a room with. Get the numbers of the girls at Sophie’s, Mikado, and Le Cyrcee and on 63 – many of them are eager for freelance daytime business.

2. Names. Remember girls’ names. I know this sounds silly, but it makes a big difference, especially if you’re transacting business by phone. It’s a drag to call Phoung, for example, and get Thuy instead. (Usually it’s a drag.) Make sure the girl knows your name, so she’ll know who’s calling.

3. Get an apartment if you’re going to stay a month or more. Many apartments are available for a limited term. They’re cheaper than hotels, unless yours charges $8-10 a day, and there’s no reason for the entire staff of your hotel to know all about your private life. Finding an apartment is easy. If you want help, I know someone who lives there who will probably help you.

4. Be nice. The girls do talk (and talk, and talk) and jerks are quickly and widely identified. Treat her well. Offer her something to drink. If the service is sterling, slip her a couple of bucks extra. This gets around, too, and it encourages even better service next time.

5. Get a driver. (This is for guys with less experience.) Moto or car, up to you. You want someone who can help you find what you want. If you’re afraid of the “commission” thing, just refuse to pay the premium price. It’s nice to have someone you trust, and someone who is there waiting when you stumble out of Martini at 2:30 AM. Remember, there have been both a stabbing and a shooting just outside the club in the past few months.

Hope some of this is helpful. PM me with any questions.

RS

PS -- Went back home through Bangkok and went to Patpong without any real hope of enjoying myself. (I first went there in 1980, and believe me, it's not the same.) But one great thing -- there are those of you who will recall an insane upstairs bar called the Kangaroo Club, where they used to have absolutely wonderful-looking girls who were just dying to polish your knob. Well, guess what - they've got them again. There are three knockouts, one of whom is always posted downstairs at the door. If you like the one who waves you in, just take her up with you. More in the Thailand thread.

Patterson
06-13-06, 03:51
Matt Naven Man

The dodgy Khemer place off Khampuchea Krom is that 63rd street can you send more details about that please or anybody else

Cheers

Shamas
06-13-06, 04:58
Most of the discount airlines have a strict weight limit for your check in and carry on luggage. Strict and enforced. Most of them are 15kg check in and 7kg carry on. You might have to up grade to the 30kg limit to save money.

Just my 2 cents worth

Shamas O'Dognasty
Gourmet Catering &
Septic Tank Cleaning

Shamas
06-13-06, 05:12
ISG is the best all around guide for P4P, I it takes a while to read all of the posting but do so. One guy asked what are the top 3 places in PP. No such thing as the top 3. Some like vanilla, some like strawberry and some like chocolate, and Baskin Robins has at least 30 more flavors - get my drift. Do read Rising Suns report, excellent.

Cambodia yellow pages is a great place to catch non P4P info on the country. One guy asked about massages, they list hotels and massage establishments galore. You can look up Bars, Resturants, Hotels and they give www if there is one to give. it's a web site that is priceless

Shamas O'D

Member #4530
06-13-06, 06:40
Shamas is right. Air Asia has a 15 kg luggage limit and charges 140 baht/kg after that. As I haul a lot of trinkets, its cheaper for me to fly Thai Airways.


Most of the discount airlines have a strict weight limit for your check in and carry on luggage. Strict and enforced. Most of them are 15kg check in and 7kg carry on. You might have to up grade to the 30kg limit to save money.

Member #1210
06-14-06, 03:30
I am planning to visit PP - I have flown BKKAIR in the past. I read the reports here about Airasia. Are there any other discount airlines that flies between BKK and PP?

How to upgrade the luggage limit from 15Kg. to 30 Kg. on Airasia? Have to do it online? If anyone have a link for that, I sure would appreciate.

What about President Air - still in business?

Thanks to everyone

Shamas
06-14-06, 04:25
You can upgrade on air asia to their business class, check the website for more info. The upgrade boosts your weight to 30kg

Shamas

Member #1210
06-14-06, 05:37
You can upgrade on air asia to their business class, check the website for more info. The upgrade boosts your weight to 30kg

Shamas

I checked the Airasia website and I found this. They have only 1 CLASS
seating. Can't be upgraded.

This is what it says on the website:
"One class, free seating and boarding. Additionally, AirAsia operates a first-come-first-served boarding system that allows you to choose where you wish to sit once you are on board. AirAsia adopted this policy so that you are encouraged to board the aircraft early and avoid guest related delays. Of course, AirAsia's boarding procedures allow provisions for the elderly, handicapped and families with children to be given priority, provided they are at the boarding gate when boarding commences."

http://www.airasia.com/site/en/page.jsp?name=how%20we%20price&id=4eb175e0-c0a8c85d-1410a850-38bc216c

Mai Yao
06-14-06, 12:12
I'd been in PP for a week and last night (Tuesday, 6/13) was my last as I was catching the 08:40 Air Asia flight back to BKK this morning.

I headed to MARTINI'S about 10pm and did a quick scan; the disco had about four girls, non worth a second look so I went back into the courtyard. There were about thirty girls hanging around, few customers. One of the Mamasans came right up with a couple of cute Viets, one was exactly what I had in mind so I focused in on her, buying her and myself a drink. Usually I order a bottle of beer but this time for no real reason, I ordered a mixed drink; I barely noticed at the time that the Mamasan had a quick exchange with the waiter who took the order.

Drinks came and we chatted a bit. I was in somewhat of a hurry so I made the deal quickly, paid up and we departed: I'd only consumed about 1/3rd of my drink.
I was staying in a GH on 63 (H2GO) and it took about ten minutes to get there.
Up to the room and in short order we were showering, then to the play ground. She tried to slow things down talking about how she really wanted to stay long time and didn't I want a massage?

"Nope!', I just wanted a quickie so I could get some sleep. I pushed things along and we had a pretty decent session after which I paid her generously and hustled her out.

When I got back to my room, I showered then settled in to watch a bit of TV and hopefully doze off. About fifteen minutes into it, I began to feel weird, strange disasociative thoughts and reactions to what I was watching. No pink elephants or anything like that, but I was definatly tripping on something. It never got overwhelming, I seemed to have some measure of control and it began to fade in an hour or so.

This was a unique experience for me.I've never been big into drugs but the few times I have were never like this.

I really believe I was slipped a "Mickie" and that she was trying to slow things down so I would drop off to sleep. Because I only drank a third of the drink, it had minimal effect, probably influenced also by the fact that I'm somewhat large.

Be careful around there. From now on, I'll only order bottled and canned drinks and only personally from the bar where I can watch them. This never happened to me before and I plan to make sure it doesn't happen again!

Prince Harry
06-14-06, 13:58
Hi Guys

I will be in PP next week which are your 3 top spots for the girls :)

CheersI was there last week and it was great.I went to all the well known hole in the wall places like mikado,shanghai,cycrcee etc.Found a lovely young pair of girls at mikado whilst on my recce and went back the next night,to the ST hotel next door for $12 each-bargain.

Later found the freelancer at the heart of darkness to stay the night.

This city has juice ,man.

When I did my first night recce I was the only barang and the only man in most places.

God, I love this country.

Seraphim7
06-14-06, 15:41
HI, ALL –

Other bars – Golden Vine has some pretty girls dancing on the bar (clothed, unfortunately) but I could never quite figure out the take-out policy. .Most bars like Golden Vine, Voodoo Lounge and Zapata [all together on St 108] and the bars in Street 104 [Rose, Zanzibar, 104 etc] have similar takeout policy. All the girls are available on a barfine basis provided that the girl is agreeable. So all you need to do is ask the girl. Negotiate on the time [ST or LT] and on the price. Once you have done this the barfine is put on your bill and when you pay you and the girl leave. What you and the girl agree on activities, timing and price is between you and the girl. Bar fines are usually $5, except on some popular nights when they may be $10 up to 10.00 or so [usually Fri and Sat]. Not all girls want to barfine and they are usually free to say no to any customer if they want to. Prices vary and depend on the appeal and the skill of the girl and on the savvy of the customer.

Fast Eddie 48
06-14-06, 16:45
I checked the Airasia website and I found this. They have only 1 CLASS
seating. Can't be upgraded.

This is what it says on the website:
"One class, free seating and boarding. Additionally, AirAsia operates a first-come-first-served boarding system that allows you to choose where you wish to sit once you are on board. AirAsia adopted this policy so that you are encouraged to board the aircraft early and avoid guest related delays. Of course, AirAsia's boarding procedures allow provisions for the elderly, handicapped and families with children to be given priority, provided they are at the boarding gate when boarding commences."

http://www.airasia.com/site/en/page.jsp?name=how%20we%20price&id=4eb175e0-c0a8c85d-1410a850-38bc216c


to member #1210



Is the first class seat on air asia next to the flight attendant , Is bbbj included
with the seat and how much .


fast eddie 48

Matt Navan Man
06-14-06, 23:08
I don't think it will be difficult finding French speakers in Cambodia.I have spent a lot of time in provincial Cambodia as well as Phnom Penh. I'm afraid I'd have to disagree with the ascertion that you'd have no problem finding French speakers. A part the copious amounts of French ex-pats and the very exceptional well educated Khmer, I am yet to meet an ordinary Cambodian who speaks any decent level of French.

English is another story and they seem to have far more ability than the Thai's in speaking it. However in the depths of the countryside English is also still a welcome rarity (if you speak Khmer that is - lol)

Shamas
06-15-06, 04:57
During the Pol Pot reign Khmers with higher educations and those who could speak a foriegn language were mostly executed.

Shamas O'D

Prince Harry
06-15-06, 13:40
I was only there three nights but enjoyed shanghai and mikado, but many nice girls at circee and the roses and the heart of darkness was pumpng all night.

Sharkeys was the best pub type venue I found.

Cambodia has many beautiful women with many different features.

Vive la difference.

Patterson
06-18-06, 11:06
With airasia im i ok just to arrive at airport with the flight Ref No & passport off corse or print everything out ?

Many thanks...

Stew2
06-18-06, 11:39
just want to thank you regular phnom penh posters for all the helpful info. visited for a few days and had a ball. the high point for me was a couple trips to sophie's. it really is not quite like any other place i have experienced - and i have been to many bj bars in japan and also to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) in bangkok - they are also good, but there is no comparison given the enthusiasm of the girls in sophies. the price, and the very outstanding element of getting samples before you decide which girl to take in the backroom - or just to stay out there with. i really love that place! had a chance to experience both of the rooms - one is better than the other because it has its own bathroom, but when i was there (contrary to some earlier posts) the girls did not hesitate to use the lights in either room.

getting oriented to finding things isn't hard in phnom penh once you have an address weith cross streets, since the city is layed out on a grid system with odd numbered streets running north - south, and even numbers running east- west. as far as finding sophie's - not hard - just stand at the corner of 53 and 118 and look up - it's on the northwest corner. the sign is up at the second floor level (that threw me and my tuk tuk driver for a couple minutes until we looked up). and the entrance is on 53rd. lotsa of moto drivers hang out at the corner waiting for us.

also took a swing by mikado one night (corner of 136 and 49). also a very nice experience, and found the rooms next door in the deauville with fresh sheets as depicted here. a nicer place than sophie's for sure, though i think for my last night i have to head back for one last visit to sophie's!

stew2

Koolshot737
06-18-06, 12:31
Any idea of visa procedures for Indian nationals. Which of the hotels do you guys recommend - Flamingo, Big Luck, DV8, Walkabout or any others. Must be close to the happening areas. Are girls good to asians or is it like BKK where I was not allowed into some bars in NP. Oh those prejudists!

Any info will do good.

Rgds,

Koolshot737

Member #4530
06-19-06, 03:46
Koolshot737,

I met a Pakistanian gentleman in my hotel on a recent trip who was in PP doing business. He had similar concerns but my driver took him out to Martinis and Sharkeys one evening and he was a big hit. It helps to dress well, smile, and make contacts. The girls have an amazing communication network and once you are identified as generous and a good guy the word gets out.

On this gentlemen's second night in Martinis he was a regular celebrity and take home three.

Quite frankly, you could be from Mars and as long as you appear to have money and treat the ladies reasonable well you'll do fine.

Unlike Bangkok, the action in PP is spread out everywhere, there's not much you can walk to. There's zillions of inexpensive hotel all relatively similar in price and comparisons. I"m a fan of the Big Luck Hotel (http://bigluckhotel.com) but there's plenty of similar ones.

I'm unaware of visa procedures for Indians but I suspect its available upon arrival.

Good luck,

Waffles

Patterson
06-19-06, 05:13
After reading Rising Sons thread it seems most of the places you take the girls to a room in the place where you meet them is this true ?

Or is there some take out places what kind of prices should i be looking at also are these places on the top of you same as Soi6 in Pattaya !!!

Many Thanks

Stew2
06-19-06, 09:26
last visit to sophie's - got there early evening (maybe 7) after a hard rainstorm that left plenty of water in the streets. consequently, i was the only one in the bar - with about 10 gorgeous girls. got lots of attention. decided after samples on two - suraown and suradet (i'm sure that is not the right spelling, but ...). suradet was a little hotty who made lots of fun overtures (you not boom boom me, i boom boom you...). had a long session with them that was great (though there was no girl on girl action, but i didn't really expect it). after a rest at the bar, a new girl - surapeia (really unsure aboutn that name) came over to me and totally seduced me - she was so darn cute. she promised to love me long time... and so despite being worn out, i thought it would be fun even if i couldn't shoot - but she was up to the task. it was a fitting end to my sophie's adventure - three girls, three yum yums, three boom booms and a bill of less than $50 including all drinks, tips and mamasan money. only complaint is that you can't count on a clean towel there.

Bold Focker
06-20-06, 00:50
I emailed Flamingos Hotel, they tel me that they have wi-fi and its complementry. I will wait and see!

It might mean you can use the wi-fi free, but you have to pay to down load!

Roguesta
06-20-06, 15:58
The Billabong Hotel has free wifi, too. You don't even have to be a guest. Just bring your laptop, and have a drink at the poolside bar.

Mai Yao
06-22-06, 12:19
I emailed Flamingos Hotel, they tel me that they have wi-fi and its complementry. I will wait and see!

It might mean you can use the wi-fi free, but you have to pay to down load!Flamingos access code= A69B69C69D

Rising Son
06-24-06, 22:00
After reading Rising Sons thread it seems most of the places you take the girls to a room in the place where you meet them is this true ?

Or is there some take out places what kind of prices should i be looking at also are these places on the top of you same as Soi6 in Pattaya !!!

Many Thanks

Hi, there --

Some places have rooms, some don't. The rooms vary in quality -- Mikado has the best. What doesn't vary is that it costs more to take the girl out than to enjoy the transaction on premises. Sophie, for example, wants $10 for the room, but they'll hit you for $20 to $30 for take-out because the bar loses the income the girl would bring in if she were there. Rooms ate $10 at Miakdo and (I think) $15 at La Cyrcee.

The so-called hostess bars, such as DV8 and Barbados, don't have rooms -- all trade is takeout.

Toul Kork and Street 63 also prefer on-premise trade. Rooms can be totally fearsome (TK especially) or bad to pretty good on Street 63. Both these places, by the way, have been less and less foreigner-friendly lately, and service is spotty and often rushed. Takeout, if it can be arranged, will run you more.

The two big ones, Martini and Sharky, have no rooms at all -- all the girls are freelancers and they do business strictly off-premises. Therefore, there's no bar fine either.

Hope this helps.

RS

Erik
06-24-06, 22:15
I understand Martini has relocated some time ago. I have not been since then. At the old location, next to Martini was a kind of ball room with a short time hotel, upstairs next to it. About 10 years ago, there was even a gogo club in a discreet end of this complex. Then, it became a very hot KTV. Who is able to tell me what this place has become ?
Thanks.

Wolfsheim
06-24-06, 23:57
Hi,

I have never been to Cambodia before but have a question about take out girls. How do you get the girl back to your hotel ? Can 2 people fit on the back of a moto with the rider ?

Sorry if this seems like a silly question but I cannot seem to work this moto thing out.

Dragon1423
06-25-06, 22:13
Wolfsheim, Not a silly question.

Three on a bike no problem, of course depends on your size. When I take two girls or more I just hire another bike and driver, they will ride long with you. Pay for all when you reach your hotel, try it you'll like.

Shamas
06-25-06, 23:54
Hi,

I have never been to Cambodia before but have a question about take out girls. How do you get the girl back to your hotel ? Can 2 people fit on the back of a moto with the rider ?

Sorry if this seems like a silly question but I cannot seem to work this moto thing out.

I've seen 4 Khmer adults on a moto, way too many. Since motos are cheap, get her one.

Shamas

Wolfsheim
06-26-06, 01:32
Hi,

Another question by an intending traveller.

Are guesthouses generally guest friendly?

How do I find out, do I just ask when I get there if I can bring people back to my room? Or do I have to be more discreet when asking?

Any dangers or pitfalls I should be aware of?

Thanks in advance

Dveight Bar
06-26-06, 01:32
The so-called hostess bars, such as DV8 and Barbados, don't have rooms -- all trade is takeout.

RSJust to clarify DV8 has 7 rooms avialable, the rooms are guesthouse standard and good value if you are staying there. What you do with the room after you rent it is upto you. The bar rents rooms not girls but a barfine is payable if the girl is leaving the bar but not if she is staying on premise.

When it comes to bikes I have had 300KG of westerners on a 110cc bike.

Dveight Bar
06-26-06, 01:38
Went up to the second floor balcony with a couple of gals....The balcony gets a lot of use. This floor which also has a pool table can be rented for private parties.

The western owner of DV8, that's me, has opened another bar up by Rose bar called OneZeroFour. Girls behind the bar don't go but the ones on the other side do.

Roguesta
06-26-06, 03:11
And don't smoke!

Asian Rain
06-26-06, 10:48
Can 2 people fit on the back of a moto with the rider ?The wide seats of the Korean-made motos are very comfortable for you and your companion. Just sandwich the girl between you and the driver.

This is a trio of former k11 girls from house #8... My mongering mate and I were on a moto alongside them... they recognized us and my mate was quick enough with his digital camera to pop-off a couple pics. I saw the one with the "AR+" stamp still working Martini on my last trip 9 months ago. Still a cutie. Enjoy PNH, AR+

Rising Son
06-28-06, 05:12
[QUOTE=Asian Rain]The wide seats of the Korean-made motos are very comfortable for you and your companion. Just sandwich the girl between you and the driver.

This is a trio of former k11 girls from house #8...

And it's great to see them. I have fond memories of two of them.

There's a whole photo book about PP motos --you won't believe what they carry. My favorite personal sighting was a medium-sized moto on which were riding three Khmer men, a half-grown (dead) pig and a seven-foot long plate glass window. I spent about an hour trying to figure out, if that was a delivery to a single business, what kind of business it could possibly be.

When I furnished my apartment in Phnom Penh, two large booshelves, a desk, and a queen-sized mattress and box springs all arrived by moto. My (car) driver and I went out and bought the stuff and drafted the nearest moto drivers to follow us with the goods. The two bookcases, by the way, went on a single moto. The drivers also carried everything upstairs and put it in place for $5 each. (I also gave each of them a beer, which they accepted with a little too much enthusiasm. Another reason I take a car.)

I think this would be a terrific act -- something new, at least -- for Cirque de Soleil.

RS

Wolfsheim
06-29-06, 03:31
Does anyone know if you can stay at DV8 ? I saw some mention of guesthouse rooms available there.

Shamas
07-01-06, 05:07
Does anyone know if you can stay at DV8 ? I saw some mention of guesthouse rooms available there.

Yes, look up their web site. Also look closely at this board, you'll find the owner.

Shamas O'D

Shamas
07-01-06, 05:11
Just to clarify DV8 has 7 rooms avialable, the rooms are guesthouse standard and good value if you are staying there. What you do with the room after you rent it is upto you. The bar rents rooms not girls but a barfine is payable if the girl is leaving the bar but not if she is staying on premise.

When it comes to bikes I have had 300KG of westerners on a 110cc bike.

All you ever wanted to know and on the same page

PosterLion
07-07-06, 06:52
Just to clarify DV8 has 7 rooms avialable, the rooms are guesthouse standard and good value if you are staying there. What you do with the room after you rent it is upto you. The bar rents rooms not girls but a barfine is payable if the girl is leaving the bar but not if she is staying on premise.

How much for the rooms? Are they for short time only or can they be rented on a daily basis? How much is the barfine for take-away?

Thanks in advance,
poster . . .

P.S. I noticed a post that mentioned the barfine is $5, but I did not see any info concerning the rooms. I make this comment to show that I did the requisite search on DV8 in an attempt to RTFF.

Thanks again!

Dinghy
07-10-06, 13:57
DV8 -

http://www.dv8-cambodia.com/DV8%20Guesthouse%20Phnom%20Penh%20-%20Guesthouse.htm

Patterson
07-25-06, 13:48
Thanks for the PMs & Rising Son post had a f**king brilliant time in PP cannot wait until November !!!!!!!!!

Will it be alot more buisier that Month than July ?

Rising Son
07-25-06, 23:09
Yes, it's incredibly busier in November than in July. Generally speaking, late February through, say, mid-October are the paradise months when the girls outnumber the customers by a significant ratio. Come November and the holidays kick in. More and more punters arrive through November, December, and even into January. The Thanksgiving through New Year's period will see more guys than girls in Martini, to take one example, and everwhere else as well.

So, economics kick in. Demand rises and so do prices. Expect to pay more for company, and expect the best-looking company to be committed relatively early in the evening. And people can argue all they want about holding the price point at whatever level, during the two and a half peak months, you're not going to get what you want much of the time without being willing to be a little bit flexible.

This is the period when every girl has a cell phone, earrings, and bracelets, most of which will be sold and forgotten by March. The upside of this phenomenon is that virtually every girl also has a PHONE NUMBER and this is the best way to cut through the log jam and get the girls you want.

So, how do you maximize your experience in high season?

1. Get a phone. Use it. Get the number of every girl you like. Walk up to girls in the obvious venues and get their numbers even if you don't intend to take the girl with you at that moment. Make sure they enter your name and number in their phone so they'll have a better chance of knowing who the hell you are when you call.

2. Be really nice to the girls. They're much more likely to go with you again and to answer your calls if they like you. Make them laugh, tell them they're beautiful. Don't treat them like *****s. It always amazes me how many guys don't understand that this is a two-way street, and that you'll get better service if the girl likes you. Hints for doing this will be found under number 5 below.

3. If you can, get an apartment. This maximizes the chance of a girl knocking on your door around 10 AM. (I know some of you hate this, but during high season, it's sometimes very nice to have some tidbit ringing your bell when you're sitting around nursing a woody.)

4. If you like threesomes, do them. This is a great way to road-test two girls at the same time. You can build your list of quality company much more quickly this way. Only thing is, some girls are a little less, um, open to adventure when they've got another girl in the bed than they are when it's only you and her. I personally know three girls who are normally available in all three orifices who will only offer two of them with another girl in the room.

5. Here are some hints for making sure the girls enjoy themselves.

a. For Christ's sake, remember their names. Calling a girl by her name makes the whole thing more personal, and also will help you decide whether you want to answer when your cell phone rings. And the next time you see her, you can say, "Hello, Phuoung," if her name is Phuong. Girls like that.

b. Get what they drink. A bottle of Bailey's is always a good idea, since many girls love it and it also loosens them up. Vietnamese girls are addicted to grass jelly drink and to soy drink. Watch what they drink in the bars and stick a few cans in the fridge. You can buy fresh coconuts in the street that alread have holes for straws 9/10th punched in the top; lots of girls love them.

c. Snacks don't hurt. If you have an apartment, mangos and melon will go fast. Do NOT buy dried squid, which most girls love, unless you want to make love to someone whose breath smells like fish fertilizer.

d. As I suggested above, tell them they're beautiful. Jesus, what can it hurt? Talk a little bit, if she seems to want to, before making the beast with two backs. I've had girls who were described by other guys as total wastes of time give me very sweet, very exciting experiences just because I took the time to treat them nicely.

Hope this is helpful.

RS

Patterson
07-26-06, 13:57
Thanks RS !!!

That Asshole
07-30-06, 07:25
quoting somebody who wrote:


1. Get a phone. Use it. Get the number of every girl you like. Walk up to girls in the obvious venues and get their numbers even if you don't intend to take the girl with you at that moment. Make sure they enter your name and number in their phone so they'll have a better chance of knowing who the hell you are when you call.

2. Be really nice to the girls. They're much more likely to go with you again and to answer your calls if they like you. Make them laugh, tell them they're beautiful. Don't treat them like *****s. It always amazes me how many guys don't understand that this is a two-way street, and that you'll get better service if the girl likes you. Hints for doing this will be found under number 5 below.

..............
a. For Christ's sake, remember their names. Calling a girl by her name makes the whole thing more personal, and also will help you decide whether you want to answer when your cell phone rings. And the next time you see her, you can say, "Hello, Phuoung," if her name is Phuong. Girls like that.

b. Get what they drink. A bottle of Bailey's is always a good idea, since many girls love it and it also loosens them up. Vietnamese girls are addicted to grass jelly drink and to soy drink. Watch what they drink in the bars and stick a few cans in the fridge. You can buy fresh coconuts in the street that alread have holes for straws 9/10th punched in the top; lots of girls love them.

c. Snacks don't hurt. If you have an apartment, mangos and melon will go fast. Do NOT buy dried squid, which most girls love, unless you want to make love to someone whose breath smells like fish fertilizer.

d. As I suggested above, tell them they're beautiful. Jesus, what can it hurt? Talk a little bit, if she seems to want to, before making the beast with two backs. I've had girls who were described by other guys as total wastes of time give me very sweet, very exciting experiences just because I took the time to treat them nicely.

My Humble Comment: (please consider)

“Great! I have given my wise advice to all these guys. I must be a great hero now! Just like superman.”- we like to think this way, don't we?

However, is this a good advice? Anyone is going to benefit from it? If yes, then it is not us. Not you. Not me.

Do not listen to this guy! He is giving you WRONG advice. Why?

I ask:
Is there anything new in his advice? Isn’t he just repeating the same thing that he heard from others and this forum is echoing it all over and over again?

It MAY win you short term success but on the long term you lose. Haven’t you been sooooo very nice to your women back at home all your life – just as you have been told to do? And are you getting good service for it? Hardly!

Isn’t it the very reason you are running to Cambodia??

Picture this: one of us is bending over to lick ass to them. The other betters him by bending over twice. The next guy bends over himself three times to better all others. Where does it lead to? You see the result in your own home.

Trying to overdo the other guys by offering the prostitutes better conditions, more money, etc. is all WRONG! (and by prostitutes I mean ALL females)

No, the real answer is to be FAIR but to rule them with an iron rod! You must try to be WORSE to them than anyone else you know! Give worse treatment, less appreciation, less money. And when they run to you complaining about some other guy, you must stand on the other guy’s side.

(The best service always come from girls who have been treated badly. Then they thrive even on a half-a-smile.)

Finally they will have nowhere to run but will submit. This is the way to fuck them all. All, not only the Asians but including the blondes, brunettes, blax, greens, yellos, and the rainbows too.

Shamas
07-30-06, 15:22
quoting somebody who wrote:

quote>>"1. Get a phone. Use it. Get the number of every girl you like. Walk up to girls in the obvious venues and get their numbers even if you don't intend to take the girl with you at that moment. Make sure they enter your name and number in their phone so they'll have a better chance of knowing who the hell you are when you call.

2. Be really nice to the girls. They're much more likely to go with you again and to answer your calls if they like you. Make them laugh, tell them they're beautiful. Don't treat them like *****s. It always amazes me how many guys don't understand that this is a two-way street, and that you'll get better service if the girl likes you. Hints for doing this will be found under number 5 below.

..............
a. For Christ's sake, remember their names. Calling a girl by her name makes the whole thing more personal, and also will help you decide whether you want to answer when your cell phone rings. And the next time you see her, you can say, "Hello, Phuoung," if her name is Phuong. Girls like that.

b. Get what they drink. A bottle of Bailey's is always a good idea, since many girls love it and it also loosens them up. Vietnamese girls are addicted to grass jelly drink and to soy drink. Watch what they drink in the bars and stick a few cans in the fridge. You can buy fresh coconuts in the street that alread have holes for straws 9/10th punched in the top; lots of girls love them.

c. Snacks don't hurt. If you have an apartment, mangos and melon will go fast. Do NOT buy dried squid, which most girls love, unless you want to make love to someone whose breath smells like fish fertilizer.

d. As I suggested above, tell them they're beautiful. Jesus, what can it hurt? Talk a little bit, if she seems to want to, before making the beast with two backs. I've had girls who were described by other guys as total wastes of time give me very sweet, very exciting experiences just because I took the time to treat them nicely."<<quote
---------------------------------------
---------------------------------------

My Humble Comment: (please consider)

“Great! I have given my wise advice to all these guys. I must be a great hero now! Just like superman.”- we like to think this way, don't we?

However, is this a good advice? Anyone is going to benefit from it? If yes, then it is not us. Not you. Not me.

Do not listen to this guy! He is giving you WRONG advice. Why?

I ask:
Is there anything new in his advice? Isn’t he just repeating the same thing that he heard from others and this forum is echoing it all over and over again?

It MAY win you short term success but on the long term you lose. Haven’t you been sooooo very nice to your women back at home all your life – just as you have been told to do? And are you getting good service for it? Hardly!

Isn’t it the very reason you are running to Cambodia??

Picture this: one of us is bending over to lick ass to them. The other betters him by bending over twice. The next guy bends over himself three times to better all others. Where does it lead to? You see the result in your own home.

Trying to overdo the other guys by offering the prostitutes better conditions, more money, etc. is all WRONG! (and by prostitutes I mean ALL females)

No, the real answer is to be FAIR but to rule them with an iron rod! You must try to be WORSE to them than anyone else you know! Give worse treatment, less appreciation, less money. And when they run to you complaining about some other guy, you must stand on the other guy’s side.

(The best service always come from girls who have been treated badly. Then they thrive even on a half-a-smile.)

Finally they will have nowhere to run but will submit. This is the way to fuck them all. All, not only the Asians but including the blondes, brunettes, blax, greens, yellos, and the rainbows too.

Dear HT,

I've read so many of your great postings and have always enjoyed them and I respect your communications abilities greatly. I agree with your post above with one except - "Rule them with an iron rod" and "To be the "worst" to them" - No way guy. I've seen too many "Worst" people in my times and they don't get any more than the rest of us. Matter of fact many of them get "Worst" treatment as the girls want to play the "Tit for Tat" game.

I do treat the gals I do P4P with, with respect, they are my business partner. I'm not going to marry one and I do not pay for below par performance but being the "Worst" no way.

I don't know what country you're from but you, me and every one who reads and participates in this board are all ambassadors for our countries and need to be at the least, civil and respectful.

To say the least I am surprised at the one part of your posting I've refered to.

Shamas O'Dognasty
Gourmet Catering &
Septic Tank Cleaning

Dinghy
07-30-06, 15:51
Yup - honey is sweet - and the usual "more honey more money" equation is modified somewhat by "assholes don't get as much as nice guys". IF it's a bonk at a chicken ranch, you pay your due and you get done. If you want repeat GFE business with someone, it pays to be at least civil with them.

Rising Son
07-30-06, 16:33
obviously i agree with dinghy and shamus, since i'm the guy ht is quoting in his post.

i'd say that dinghy's statement, "assholes don't get as much as nice guys" is exactly accurate and i'd add that at high season (which was what we were talking about in the first place), assholes get the leftovers. and as far as i'm concerned, they're welcome to take them.

and, no, i didn't go to se asia to avoind bowing and scraping to women, because i don't do that in the west, either. i went to se asia to go to bed with hundreds (or thousands) of beautiful girls. having a great time, too.

rs

Member #3409
07-31-06, 00:17
Dear HT,

I've read so many of your great postings and have always enjoyed them and I respect your communications abilities greatly. I agree with your post above with one except - "Rule them with an iron rod" and "To be the "worst" to them" - No way guy. I've seen too many "Worst" people in my times and they don't get any more than the rest of us. Matter of fact many of them get "Worst" treatment as the girls want to play the "Tit for Tat" game.

I do treat the gals I do P4P with, with respect, they are my business partner. I'm not going to marry one and I do not pay for below par performance but being the "Worst" no way.


The trick is to not be too SOFT that they take you for a sucker, which is slightly different from being nice. If you have a problem with a girl be firm with her, especially if it is about something that you specifically negotiated or asked for. But to rule them with an iron rod or to be nasty to them is just total bullshit. Just remember these are people too and she is doing you as much a favour as you are by paying her.

The amount of money we are talking about if you were to get into a situation where you felt the need to rule with an iron rod then I would say the best advice is to just walk away. Actually I did that just the other day in another country, made me feel much better than trying to force the girl to do something she didn't want to do.

Shamas
07-31-06, 03:26
The trick is to not be too SOFT that they take you for a sucker, which is slightly different from being nice. If you have a problem with a girl be firm with her, especially if it is about something that you specifically negotiated or asked for. But to rule them with an iron rod or to be nasty to them is just total bullshit. Just remember these are people too and she is doing you as much a favour as you are by paying her.

The amount of money we are talking about if you were to get into a situation where you felt the need to rule with an iron rod then I would say the best advice is to just walk away. Actually I did that just the other day in another country, made me feel much better than trying to force the girl to do something she didn't want to do.


I fully agree, I've mongered all over the world for over 45 years and well know you have to be firm but not iron handed or the worst. It's a simple business. Don't pay up front and always agree on everything you want and expect.

I've sent a few girls packing without a penny, I've passed on quite a few because I just didn't like their attitudes and I've got some who I see multiple times.

I am firm and I do stick to my guns, I just do it nicely.

Thanks for your efforts amigo

Shamas O'Dognasty
Gourmet Catering &
Septic Tank Cleaning

Asian Rain
07-31-06, 14:52
Just back from annual pilgrimage to PNH. I was interested to see that the Caltex petrol station Starmart featured generic Indian-made Viagra in the condom rack at checkout. One has to admire the plug and play convenience and the bargain price of US$2.30 for 4 tablets - less than 25% of Bangkok pricing!

I personally prefer Cialis. Picked up Apcalis Plus 20mg generic Cialis 4-tablet box at US$6/box. Again, just 25% of same brand generic price in BKK, so I stocked up for the rest of the year. :rolleyes: You can get these at any pharmacy over the counter like the one I used was just around Central Market. See pic.

It's pretty impressive what can be gotten without a prescription - 30tabs of original Roche brand Valium were just US$3.70. :eek: So if you are looking for a real bargain besides pussy, make a list of your drug needs and visit the pharmacy in PNH! More reports about PNH later. Enjoy, AR+

Dragon1423
08-01-06, 01:52
Asian Rain,

Thanks for the information on the drugstore, Viagra & Cialis. Last Janurary I paid $20.00 for two tabs of Cialis in Bangkok near Nana Plaza. I'll be in Phnom Penh in Janurary again this coming year. I'll wait and buy it there, I am familar with the Central Market area of course, due to the Sofies Club being close by. You say most drugstores in Phnom Penh should have it, however with a copy of your photos, I am sure, I'll have no trouble finding that drugstore. Thanks for posting this information. Good Day! D1423

PS. Did you make it up to Sofies? Any of the favorites still there? Prices jump up any? I know, generally speaking, prices are higher during the high tourist season. Another year and I'll be there during the low season, although Janurary has not been too bad. No complaints, here.

GWillie
08-01-06, 14:17
AR,

Any sign of a generic Levitra in PP? I have found several places on the net advertising it but I asked at a few pharmacies in Bangkok and Pattaya and nobody had it. The real stuff was about 2000 baht for 4 tabs. I didn't look for it in PP, maybe I should have?

Asian Rain
08-01-06, 17:50
Thanks for the information on the drugstore, Viagra & Cialis. Last Janurary I paid $20.00 for two tabs of Cialis in Bangkok near Nana Plaza. I'll be in Phnom Penh in Janurary again this coming year. I'll wait and buy it there, I am familar with the Central Market area of course, due to the Sofies Club being close by. You say most drugstores in Phnom Penh should have it, however with a copy of your photos, I am sure, I'll have no trouble finding that drugstore. PS. Did you make it up to Sofies?D1423, Glad that you found the info useful. You will have no trouble locating a drugstore in PNH... I would recommend the ones near Central Market as they have a wider selection of meds and the turnover is higher so you will likely get better expiration dates. You will find a string of pharmacies by going out the La Palliote Hotel exit, go right and then turn left... 5 pharmacies on the right side of Street 136. You will definitely save $$... the "weekend supply" that I bought (see pic) cost less than US$30!

I did not make it to Sophies. The place is now well-advertised in all tourist magazines, so I imagine it is going strong. I will post more about my visit in the near future, but I have to suffer a biz trip to Manila this week. :D Enjoy, AR+

Any sign of a generic Levitra in PP?I didn't look for Levitra. But I have not seen it anywhere in generic in Asia as it does not seem to be popular. For myself, I am a big fan of Cialis as I just need to pop a 1/3-1/2 pill and the effect will last for 2 days. Not only does this mean that my supply lasts a very long time, but I don't have to remember to pop pills before the act. When I go someplace for the weekend, I just pop a half pill before my flight touches down on Friday and I don't have to fuss any more thru my return on Sunday. That's why they call Cialis "the weekender." :cool: There is a section on this topic in the special interests thread, so I won't say any more about this subject. Enjoy, AR+

Rising Son
08-02-06, 03:21
Asian Rain is absolutely right -- the pharmacies on the little street just off the Central Market are the best places to buy all the varieties of, um, energizers. A couple of them have the glass in front of their counter completely filled with boxes of Apcalis, Kamagra, and all the other variants, and the discounts (even over the price at other PP pharmacies) is substantial. Buy four or five boxes of four tabs each, and they'll drop it further.

RS

Whoreman
08-03-06, 19:12
I think Humble Turd went a bit over the top but I appreciate his sentiment. Any guy who acts like Rising Son suggests you act is just going to get taken for an idiot. It's like Pattaya with the suckers fawning over their "girlfriend" while she sucks and fucks and speaks about him with contempt when he's out of sight. These are *****s - agree what you're going to do, do it, pay for it then move on to the next one.

That Asshole
08-04-06, 03:04
i am an asshole! it kinda feels good.

asshole writes:

anyone ever thought of what any woman who happens to read the "forum" might think of these reports? (as there certainly must be some females who read it for one reason or another.)they get a total egotrip from it!

from details like these:" .....i was allowed to touch her breasts and i felt so happy....i had the time of my life, making love with so many women....i praised her beauty and lovely hair and she gave me a sweet smile...you have to spoil the girls, most importantly....only assholes don't get pussy...etc, etc...

this goes on and on. isn't this forum becoming like a bad copy of a hollywood movie? originally it had a great objective of possibly empowering us to have more choices and not to be so dependent of them females. now it's rather packed with "when harry met sally" type of stories.

everywhere you look the world is full of very egoistic, very proud and arrogant females, many of whom think of men as nothing, as jokes, toys. it's only because we constantly keep fighting each other. we have no image of a "class" of any sort but instead just angry and confused individuals.

--------------------------------------------------------------------

with all my reports there was one thing i was suggesting: it does not necessarily have to be like this. yes, we can all get a fair go, even the old, the poor, the ugly and even the "assholes" among us. all it takes is just to
cooperate and become a "class" with some common purposes. to put down the fighting and realize that it is not a natural part of us but only a program that we receive every day in life. from our society, from the women (and men), from the news and yes from films and literature.

--------------------------------------------------------------------

it wasn't always like this. men used to have a thing called status as a "class". women used to be more respectful and they were much less influential than they are becoming now.

nowadays children are taught to spit on men from an early age. there are prejudices, libels, lawsuits brought up in exploding proportions. the "abuse" claims issue is still in it's infancy but already reaching totally ridiculous
volume worldwide. [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) claims just as well. you have less and less defence every year. even just a malicious claim can bring any "succesful" and innocent man to his knees. it's like an "anti-male weapon" and is getting
stronger evry day.

this forum and similar forums give us some way to interact and cooperate. let's use it the right way. you won't become a devoted anti-feminist right away. that's okay. but at least consider it that to have a better future as a
man starts in you! yes, licking may seem to win you short time successes. but on the long term you lose.

--------------------------------------------------------------------

systematical thinking: how can i get more pussy, in a sustainable and scientific way? licking can hardly be called that. but think of yourself as a builder. there are many men in cambodia (and other countries) who want to cooperate with you: brothel owners, papasans, drivers, other sex-tourists, so and so.

by building such a network you reach far-far greater successes in fucking than by pleasing the "meat", who cannot think (or not like us anyway), who is really just a face, a body. you were born to be a man. why not be proud of it!? even if you are old, sick, fat, bald, smelly or ugly, you are still better than any woman that has ever lived or will live. they lied to you if they told you otherwise! (btw cambodian, thai, korean men already know this.)

--------------------------------------------------------------------

on the long term there is just one way for us: to cooperate with men and to understand what is really happening around us, with us.

even if it means some might label us an "asshole" from time to time.

(print this out, place it next to your bed and read it once every day.)

Rising Son
08-04-06, 23:45
I probably shouldn't respond to the last couple of posts, but what the hell.

The basic argument seems to be something like this: We all know that most Western women eat sh*t, so let's take it out on women who don't eat sh*t.

Fine, if that's what you want to do. It's sort of guilt by association, but if you want to be an asshole, go ahead. Guys like you actually make it easier for guys like me.

If you want to take another look at my original post, you'll see that I didn't suggest marrying the girls, swearing undying faithfulness, or not getting laid three or four times a day with different girls, if your wallet and your testosterone level permit. I didn't suggest emotional involvement or suicide pacts or a lifetime of financial support. I suggested being polite and treating the girls nicely.

It's also worth noting that I suggested this in answer to a specific question: how can a punter have the best possible time during high season, when there are more guys than girls in most of the venues? In other words, if there are only a few girls who are really terrific and there are a bunch of guys in line, how do I cut to the head of the line?

I know half a dozen assholes who continually bottom-feed the lineup of girls at, say, Martini. When you ask them why they don't take one of the picks of the litter, most of the time they say something like, "She doesn't like me." Well, golly, I mean let me think, why could that be? Maybe, just maybe, it's because you're so busy using her to get even with Western women (something you probably don't have the courage to do with REAL Western women) that you treated her like toilet paper. Or you treated one or two of her friends like toilet paper and word has gotten around, as it always does, that you are no fun at all, someone who should be avoided unless it's 3 AM, the place is closing, and there are no other possibles in sight.

But by all means, keep it up, because I'll probably be in sight, and I want the finest girl in the place. Actually, I wish there were more like you.

And, no, I don't get emotionally involved, I don't do steady girlfriends, and I could care less if the girl I took last night goes with someone else tonight. Good for her.

RS

Whoreman
08-05-06, 00:40
Rising Son,

I certainly didn't mention western women. I know some fantastic western women. Obviously Humble Turd has his own unique views on western women and women in general. As for Cambodian *****s, I'm all for respect but I think you're going way over the top if you're calling girls beautiful. That would even make a 'good girl' cringe, never mind a *****. And I've always left Martinis with the young, sexy girl I want without worrying about her favourite drink and snacks. Then again, I'm a young hansum man with a knockout personality so I don't even have to make the effort. I'm sure the same is true for you :) .

Cebu Local
08-05-06, 01:12
I probably shouldn't respond to the last couple of posts, but what the hell.

The basic argument seems to be something like this: We all know that most Western women eat sh*t, so let's take it out on women who don't eat sh*t.

Fine, if that's what you want to do. It's sort of guilt by association, but if you want to be an asshole, go ahead. Guys like you actually make it easier for guys like me.

If you want to take another look at my original post, you'll see that I didn't suggest marrying the girls, swearing undying faithfulness, or not getting laid three or four times a day with different girls, if your wallet and your testosterone level permit. I didn't suggest emotional involvement or suicide pacts or a lifetime of financial support. I suggested being polite and treating the girls nicely.

It's also worth noting that I suggested this in answer to a specific question: how can a punter have the best possible time during high season, when there are more guys than girls in most of the venues? In other words, if there are only a few girls who are really terrific and there are a bunch of guys in line, how do I cut to the head of the line?

I know half a dozen assholes who continually bottom-feed the lineup of girls at, say, Martini. When you ask them why they don't take one of the picks of the litter, most of the time they say something like, "She doesn't like me." Well, golly, I mean let me think, why could that be? Maybe, just maybe, it's because you're so busy using her to get even with Western women (something you probably don't have the courage to do with REAL Western women) that you treated her like toilet paper. Or you treated one or two of her friends like toilet paper and word has gotten around, as it always does, that you are no fun at all, someone who should be avoided unless it's 3 AM, the place is closing, and there are no other possibles in sight.

But by all means, keep it up, because I'll probably be in sight, and I want the finest girl in the place. Actually, I wish there were more like you.

And, no, I don't get emotionally involved, I don't do steady girlfriends, and I could care less if the girl I took last night goes with someone else tonight. Good for her.

RSJust like fishing with some people using hook and line and others nets or spearsguns or in extreme cases dynamite. Humble Turd has a style of hunting while Rising Son has another style.Each of us is entitled to his opinion of how he wants to hunt his "prey"or "meat" depending on his point of view.Humble Turd s style is fine for him,while Rising Son enjoys another style.To cite an example Old Asia Hand the seasoned monger with lots of experience uses a hard strict firm style while I play nice guy and use a friendly pleasant style.Yet we are friends and get along just fine Let each guy hunt with his choice of hunting technique and respect that choice.My 2 centavos humble opinion

The Wanderer
08-09-06, 08:33
Read the Forum, DV8 seems well recommended but tried to contact via e-mail and PM without success - got no response from either channel. Seen some ‘iffy reports on Flamingo on the net, not sure how accurate they are. Big Luck Hotel seems an option.

Any other suggestions?

Thanks

Member #4530
08-09-06, 09:31
Similar to the Big Luck is the Lucky Star and New York (there's probably 30 more...). The Lucky Star use to have some decent Khmer action right outside the door. The New York and Big Luck have great locations. The New York has a good restaurant. The Big Luck has a nice pool. The latter (bigluckhotel.com) still gets my vote.

Frankly I'd move to another in a heartbeat if they offered some decent broadband access.

Does anyone have any suggests on moderate priced hotels in PP with broadband?

Benny09
08-09-06, 09:52
At least 95% of hotels etc are GF.

Asian Rain
08-12-06, 11:52
Made my annual pilgrimage to PNH a couple weeks ago. Very nice to be back in the thick of one of the most relaxing mongering locations in Asia. My goal for this trip had been to branch out try some of the places reported in the forum, but I didn't get much beyond a few visits - my usual haunts were simply too reliable and my time was too limited.

Needless to say, the visit produced some notable shags. :cool: I still haven't finished all the video processing. As I had a great time on my last visit with Khmer girls, I had planned to go more with Khmer talent than Viet, but ended up 50-50 on my pickups. The Khmer girls have come a long way towards giving better customer service (BBBJ is standard into the package), but the Viet girls still seem to have the edge on hooking me.

With the virtual shutdown of Svay Pak (k11), the main benefit to PNH has been the flourish in bars - especially bars with knock shops. Unlike the rather nasty (not to mention dodgy) Street 63 massage shops or God-awful Toul Kork, these places operate quite above board and are even well-advertised in the tourist magazines. :) If you search the forum, you will find a few field reports on each of these places. As the streets of PNH are laid out on a sensibe grid pattern, you will find them easily with any free tourist map. A quick summary of potential places:

(1) WALKABOUT [corner Street 51 and Street 174]. Open-air freelance pickup bar. Don't judge the place by what is there... be patient and settle in until a decent girl comes in, then be quick to strike.

(2) SOPHIE CLUB [#9E1 Street 118, corner Street 53 (entrance)]. Lots written about this BJ joint. Daytime option and perfect for a long business lunch, although it is you who will get eaten. Girls compete for your custom the second you walk in the door. $3/bbbj. $2/lady drinks. $10 FS in upstairs room.

(3) SHARKY'S [#126 Street 130]. Bar with pool tables and freelance talent. Hit and miss.

(4) MIKADO [#21 Street 136, corner of Street 49]. Small and cozy bar with talent you can take right there. Side door leads to ST hotel. $12/FS short time.

(5) MARTINI [#110A Street 173]. Bar, disco and pool tables with open-air restaurant. Mix of Viet and Khmer freelancers.

(6) LE CYRCEE CLUB [#13 Street 49]. Very near Mikado, so easy to barhop both. Small bar with rooms upstairs. $15/FS short time. $2/ST room. I have seen a quote for $20/2 girls, but have not tried this option myself.

(7) HEART OF DARKNESS [#25 Street 51]. Small bar very near Walkabout. Freelancers. Does not get going until past 12pm... most of the girls go here as a last chance. Good in combination with Shanghai and Walkabout.

(8) SHANGHAI [corner Street 51 and Street 172]. Small open-air bar between Walkabout and Heart of Darkness. Good to check out on the barhop between the two.

There is no real preferred place amongst these - cost of food and drinks does not vary significantly from place to place, so the mongering atmosphere is the determining factor. It really depends upon one's mood, mongering style and time of night. If you like to hunt a bit for your prey (as I do) and bring it back to your place for the kill (as I do), then you can start your evening at Martini and then hop between Walkabout, Shanghai and Heart of Darkness (and possibly Sharky's) if nothing works out.

If you like a little more cozy/private get-it-all-in-one-place possibility, then moving between Sophie, Mikado and Le Cyrcee will likely satisfy your needs.

With the exception of Martini, all of these places are located around Central Market or just south of it - no more than 2-3 min 2000 riel moto ride between any location, so barhop to your heart's content.

If you are looking for a very cheap hotel option, try Lucky Ro Hotel at #122 Street 110 (023 986 559) for thier $10/night super cheap aircon rooms with big beds. No mints on the pillow here, just a flat sleeping surface. Staff expect you to bring a girl and can broadcast porn movies to your room, although when they offered to do so, I replied that I prefer to make my own porn movies. :D Ask for a room with hot water if that is important to you. Just tell them you have stayed there before and you will get the $10 rate.

When I go to PNH, I only spend money on girls. If you are looking for cheap places to eat, just try the backpacker places on Street 93 behind the Phnom Penh hotel near Boeung Kak Lake. The Family Restaurant is my favorite and the Italian place up the road is great. Lots of cheap Indian places too. I never spend more than $4-5 for a belly full of food. I also get a kick out of melting in with the politically conscious young backpackers - one group of fat white cows was having a spirited discussion about the terrible war in Iraq while the dirty sex tourist at the next table quietly paged through the snaps of sweet girls on his new mobile phone. Wonderful to have one's priorities in order. :D

Enjoy PNH, AR+

Muzungufotsy
08-13-06, 10:18
Made my annual pilgrimage to PNH a couple weeks ago. Very nice to be back in the thick of one of the most relaxing mongering locations in Asia. My goal for this trip had been to branch out try some of the places reported in the forum, but I didn't get much beyond a few visits - my usual haunts were simply too reliable and my time was too limited.

(2) SOPHIE CLUB [#9E1 Street 118, corner Street 53 (entrance)]. Lots written about this BJ joint. Daytime option and perfect for a long business lunch, although it is you who will get eaten. Girls compete for your custom the second you walk in the door. $3/BBBJ. $2/lady drinks. $10 FS in upstairs room.

(4) MIKADO [#21 Street 136, corner of Street 49]. Small and cozy bar with talent you can take right there. Side door leads to ST hotel. $12/FS short time.

(5) MARTINI [#110A Street 173]. Bar, disco and pool tables with open-air restaurant. Mix of Viet and Khmer freelancers.

(6) LE CYRCEE CLUB [#13 Street 49]. Very near Mikado, so easy to barhop both. Small bar with rooms upstairs. $15/FS short time. $2/ST room. I have seen a quote for $20/2 girls, but have not tried this option myself. With the exception of Martini, all of these places are located around Central Market or just south of it - no more than 2-3 min 2000 riel moto ride between any location, so barhop to your heart's content.

Enjoy PNH, AR+Thanks for your report

Just want to make some corrections so all members pay the right price it would be good for everybody and don't call me cheap charlie please I just don't want that Cambodia gets Thailand prices!

SOPHIE CLUB BBBJ is still 1$ per girl unless you come at the bar then it is 5$. Once you got in the room it could be for a BJ or a fuck it will be 10$.

It opens at 6pm so usually at this time it is already dark.

MIKADO is still 10$ ST

LE CYRCEE changed his regulations it means you have to pays separately 2$ for the room and then the fee for the girl which is still 10$ (try to negociate please! )

Generally speaking in all the freelance places and foreigner owned places the price is 10$ ST 20$ LT period.

Everybody paying above this price pays too much!

I remember not such a long time ago at K11 you could fuck for 3 $ ST the vietnamese girls you see at the martini in the evening

So 10$ for ST for the same girls a few years later seems very good to me. Prices in phnom penh didn't get a 300% increase in a few years!

BTW the price for a motodop is 1000 riel in the day and 500 more at the night. One doesn t agree go away he will come back to you since there are so many everywhere!

Don't even try to discuss you lose your time and your energy!

2000 riel is what I pay when I come back with a girl from the martini at 1 am. Happy fucking everybody!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for directions for posting a link to a specific report.

Azn Playa
08-14-06, 13:59
BTW the price for a motodop is 1000 riel in the day and 500 more at the night. One doesn t agree go away he will come back to you since there are so many everywhere!

Don't even try to discuss you lose your time and your energy!

2000 riel is what I pay when I come back with a girl from the martini at 1 am. Happy fucking everybody!Just to confirm my idea about motodop pricing - if you ask them "how much is it?" then they know you dont know and will overcharge, right?

So you just get on one, ride, get off, hand the money and start walking away? or do you discuss the price before leaving on every trip?

And 2000 from Martinis sounds cheap - are you travelling at least as far as Flamingo Hotel?

If you are with a girl I always think the driver will ask for $1 as he wants to profit more from the situation.

Muzungufotsy
08-15-06, 08:55
Just to confirm my idea about motodop pricing - if you ask them "how much is it? " then they know you don't know and will overcharge, right?

So you just get on one, ride, get off, hand the money and start walking away? Or do you discuss the price before leaving on every trip?

And 2000 from Martinis sounds cheap - are you travelling at least as far as Flamingo Hotel?

If you are with a girl I always think the driver will ask for $1 as he wants to profit more from the situation. you are absolutely right Asia player

You just get on one, ride, get off, hand the money and start walking away never negociate!

You will loose your time and your temper which you should never do of course.

The thing is you must know the price before hand of course.

Ask locals expats bar owners people who live there. Don't ask tourists!

Tourists will pay 1$ because they are stupid enough to believe what motodops tell them!

Thanks to them we get hassled so much because they think we are going to pay barang prices!

And yes I pay 2000 riel from the martini to the walkabout, but of course at 1 am I take a motodop I know so he knows how much I will pay him

Then I don't have to dicsuss the price especially when you are with a girl

They know you want to go home quickly and that you are weak.

It doesnt work with me sorry guys!

In addition I never used one of these motodops who get the martini driver card. This is all bull shit just another way to charge you more

I know many guys think 1$ is a good price but think twice before you pay please. Everytime I arrive at the airport I pay 1$ from the airport until the central market. Nothing more to say!

Fast Eddie 48
08-15-06, 23:00
you are absolutely right Asia player

You just get on one, ride, get off, hand the money and start walking away never negociate!

You will loose your time and your temper which you should never do of course.

The thing is you must know the price before hand of course.

Ask locals expats bar owners people who live there. Don't ask tourists!

Tourists will pay 1$ because they are stupid enough to believe what motodops tell them!

Thanks to them we get hassled so much because they think we are going to pay barang prices!

And yes I pay 2000 riel from the martini to the walkabout, but of course at 1 am I take a motodop I know so he knows how much I will pay him

Then I don't have to dicsuss the price especially when you are with a girl

They know you want to go home quickly and that you are weak.

It doesnt work with me sorry guys!

In addition I never used one of these motodops who get the martini driver card. This is all bull shit just another way to charge you more

I know many guys think 1$ is a good price but think twice before you pay please. Everytime I arrive at the airport I pay 1$ from the airport until the central market. Nothing more to say!


to dodomad


I carry 20 baht bill with me to paid the moto driver or you can paid $ 5 usd
for all day most moto driver will be happy with that . there no way moto
driver in cambodia get paid more than thailand or china .

fast eddie 48

Khunk
08-16-06, 04:17
I will be making my first trip to PP in September. I would like to stay at a hotel that is very close to the action, clean, and is GF. I have read many posts concerning hotels to take girls for ST but not many posts about where you all have actually stayed. Any advice or information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

KingTubby
08-16-06, 10:28
V D

Try this site for lots of info on hotels, and other travel related info: www.talesofasia.com

Cheers

Member #2453
08-16-06, 14:59
Visited yesterday, arrived there around 5:50pm, was quite easy to find the place after reading directions on this forum, but was in for a surprise looking at the entrance to the building, the stairway and the club itself, The main entrance to the club was closed and had to knock and wait, then a girl comes and opens the door, no one in the club, so I ask if they are open or I should return back at a later time, she mentions that they are open, reading the forum I was imagining it to be something like the EDEN club lobby area, but this was a different treat, sat on the stool at the bar, before I could order a beer with the aged lady behind the counter and before even she opens the bottle, the dick was already out and there were about 5 ladies around all trying to give sample BJs, that was really cool, with no customers in the bar, and still a lot of other girls moving around and putting on their makeup for the evening, then I selected two girls, one very cute looking, slim and slightly tall compared to others, maybe around 19 to 20 years, and one more who was average and around 22-24 years of age, the other girls left, but not before asking for a dollar for the 10sec sample BJ’s, then the two girls start mentioning we go to the room, I mention to them maybe for the second round, depending on how good the first round is at the bar, we agree and move to the couch, still with the dick poping out, once on the couch, they start a really good BBBJ, great technique, it goes on for the next 10 mins by then there were 6 to 7 more customers, it is surprising to see people arriving sharp 6pm by 6:10, the bar was almost full. finish in the cute girls mouth and she keep sucking for some more time after I cum. That was my first experience at BJ bar and its great.

Bold Focker
08-21-06, 22:48
I was quite happy in Flamingos hotel $20 per night. Possible not one of the cheapest, but it had Wi-Fi and it was handy for Walkabout, shanghai bar, heart of darkness, chillies and not a million miles from the waterfront! Rooms on the small size, but has the creature comforts. No safe though!


I will be making my first trip to PP in September. I would like to stay at a hotel that is very close to the action, clean, and is GF. I have read many posts concerning hotels to take girls for ST but not many posts about where you all have actually stayed. Any advice or information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Bold Focker
08-22-06, 01:44
well i think its time to post about my first trip to cambodia back in july.
i will try to detail everything, so if you have never been before and do not understand the terminology, or an abbreviation, you will not have to spend hours, trawling through endless pages on this forum to find out what it means.

i arrived in phnom penh (pp) from bangkok (bkk) via air asia $30.5 (you can’t beat it!) pick up by paris hotel. could not believe the sights, you see just travelling from the airport. my first thought was “is this driver going to get going” it was an open road and we were doing 20mph. within the next ten minute i saw about 10,000 moto’s (moped) some with 5 ft gas bottle strapped across the backseat. other where the passenger is carrying 5 x 4 ft sheets off glass, or where dad is driving with entire family of five on the back. it was the most interesting 5 mls trip i have had. (i don’t get out much!)

over the next few days i tried to work out the road rules. but quickly came to the conclusion, “there aren’t any” there are no road signs, marking or speed limits or very limited. you own the piece of road in front of you, up to your braking distance! a vehicle from a side turning has as much right as you travelling on a main road. they will pull out of a side turning and travel up the wrong side of the road, until they can move over to the correct side. this is why they travel at 20 mph!

having said this, there are some very nice cars out there, and i never saw one with a scratch on it, in the whole two weeks i was out there.

pavements were another issue, it is impossible to walk on the pavement as everyone parks on them or shop blocks them with their goods. in the end you just walk in the road. sometime you have problems getting into a shop, cause the pavements are so blocked!

the paris hotel is quite basic, but if you consider it was only $15 per night, it was ok. it is a $1 tuctuc (moped with carriage on back carrying up to 4 people or more) ride into town, but i think the worst part about the hotel is there is no bar, where you can sit, have a beer and talk to other patrons.

they do have a fish bowl (seating area behind large glass screen) with about 30-50 girls sitting behind all with a unique number. if you like a girl, you give this number to the attendant, who writes this on a board & the girl comes out. you pay $5 and that secures the girl for a 1 hour massage.

i was not over impressed. the first time i picked girl and went to room. i had the 1 hour massage and did not mention boom boom (full sex fs)or yum yum (blow job bj). after the massage i said boom boom $10 and she said yes. no problem!
second time i thought i would take two girls at these prices. picked the two girls and went to room, before massage started, boom boom was discussed, and girls wanted $50. i lol

fuck that, sent one girl packing best one 9/10. other one stayed and negotiations started. i do not have a clue why but i agreed @ $30, why i did not sent her packing, as well i don’t know. after this i did not take any more girls from the fish bowl!
if i was to do it again i would get the price of boom boom before i went to the room. if it was not $10 i would return her there and then and pick another!

in the evening i would take a tuctuc into town, i paid the driver $10 and he waited outside each bar, and then took me onto the next one. (again i overpaid, could have got it cheaper) ist night we went to sophie’s club open 6pm to 3am street 118/53.
as you are walking up the stair you thinking, “where the hell am i going” walls covered in dirt & graffiti! at the top, there is a shabby door with a bell. ring the bell and there is a rush of tiny feet running to the door. once inside about 10 girls (aged between 19-22) swamp you. within minutes of sitting at the bar, your pecker is out and inside some young’s girls’ mouth. after about 3 girls had had their gums around my plums, i had to decline any further cleaning.

at this stage i did not partake in boom boom. the girl and room is available @ cost of $10. i looked in room, not really to my standard no on-suite. shower was just a container of water with a scoop, soap was limited.

we finished our drinks, paid up and left. ($1 each girl bj. beers $2 each)

another bar like this is called cyrcee club it is on 49 street just off 130 street
opens at 6pm to 2am. bit more upmarket than sophies. prices are $20 girl + $5 or $2 for room can’t remember.

across the way was a bar i think call “cat house” the name would suggest this is more than just a bar & restaurant, but it is not. we went inside, lot of staff but i am told they are not available. nice bar full of westerner’s (free pool)

my remaining nights i spent in different bars across pp.

one’s that deserve a mention are:

sharkies bar open 6pm to late 1am ish. full of free lancers (fl) these are girls that attend the bar looking for barangs, (westerner’s) they will go with you for sex long time (lt) = all night or st short time = 1-2 hours depending on what you agreed at outset. prices range st $10 –20 lt $20-30 one girl ask $50. as i got more used to negotiating, i found it best to tell them what you will pay. “you lt $20” simple but affective, most said yes because they know you know the going rate. plus the fact it is low season.

hostess bars i liked were rose bar, zantie bar, and 1 zero 4 (has football table and girls were good at it) these are all in same street street 102 i think. there are other but cant remember names. dv8 was ok on street 148. (hostess bars is where girls are tied to the bar, (not literary though) if you want to leave with them, you have to bar fine them (bf) to release them from the bar. bf normally $10 before 11pm. $5 after. bf is the same if you lt or st the girl. again girls st $10ish lt $20ish.

as a general rule local beers are $1 each, some hostess bar charge $1.5. imported beers heineken range from $1.5 – $2.5.

hostess drinks or ladies drinks i think are about $3 (this is where you buy a girl a drink, and she will spend time talking to you. this $3 is split between bar and girl)
call me a cheap skate, but i did not do it, i would talk to the girls and play pool with them, and they never asked for a drink. sometimes i would give them a $1 as i was leaving or i would lt them.

after five days at paris hotel, i moved to flamingo’s hotel on 51 street. not one of the cheapest hotel at $20 per night, but i liked the wi-fi. the rooms were on the small side, but had most creature comforts, but no room safe! btw both hotel were “girl friendly” (gf) some hotel will not let you bring guests back.

flamingo’s is also convenient for shanghai bar, chillies, heart of darkness and walkabout which is open 24hr. first two are, hostess bars, and later two are fl bars.
i also went to a lot of other bars, during my two weeks, but can’t remember half their name, or where they were.

changing money is not a problem now, atm machine are now available, but limited in numbers. i think there are about 15 in whole of pp. i am from london in the uk, i used my nationwide card, they do not charge commission and give you the rate of the day, and so it does not cost anything to withdraw money. atm’s pump out usd ($) only. conversion rates are 4100 riel = $1. any change given less than $1 will be give in riel.

both currencies are accepted, but any ripped or torn $ bills, will not be accepted.

if you have never been to cambodia, i would certainly recommend it, i found it friendly and safe, but perhaps 2 weeks, does not give me the right to comment on such issues.

if i was to sum up pp in two words it would have to be “it’s different”

i also went to sihnouk ville for 4 days but i will post my experience there on the relevant site

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Rising Son
08-22-06, 06:52
bold focker wrote, "over the next few days i tried to work out the road rules. but quickly came to the conclusion, 'there aren’t any'"



actually, there are several. here they are.

1. the car with the most mass has the right-of-way, assuming no policemen or hun sen's nephew are in either of them.

2. any car with policemen in it has the right-of-way over every other car except the one with hun sen's nephew in it.

3. any car with hun sen's nephew in it is allowed to drive through the plate glass windows at sorya, up the escalator, and back down again at 5 pm, and anyone he runs over will be arrested.

4. no more than five dead hogs are allowed on a moto, unless the moto driver is hun sen's nephew.

5. all traffic stays on the right side of the road except when the driver wants to go on the left for any reason at all, including looking into a shop window.

6. the speed limit is as fast as the car will go. no one at any time is allowed to drive faster than their car will go. except for hun sen's nephew.

hope this is helpful.

Shamas
08-22-06, 23:30
bold focker wrote, "over the next few days i tried to work out the road rules. but quickly came to the conclusion, 'there aren’t any'"



actually, there are several. here they are.

1. the car with the most mass has the right-of-way, assuming no policemen or hun sen's nephew are in either of them.

2. any car with policemen in it has the right-of-way over every other car except the one with hun sen's nephew in it.

3. any car with hun sen's nephew in it is allowed to drive through the plate glass windows at sorya, up the escalator, and back down again at 5 pm, and anyone he runs over will be arrested.

4. no more than five dead hogs are allowed on a moto, unless the moto driver is hun sen's nephew.

5. all traffic stays on the right side of the road except when the driver wants to go on the left for any reason at all, including looking into a shop window.

6. the speed limit is as fast as the car will go. no one at any time is allowed to drive faster than their car will go. except for hun sen's nephew.

hope this is helpful.

7. only stop when you absolutely have to. then fill in any spaces almost large enough for you to fit.

8. don't pay attention to traffic flow, just go

9. the longer you travel in a straight line the greater your chances are of having an accident. always weave, never stop and don't pay attention.

10. pray before the trip, pray during the trip, pray after arrival and most important, pray to every god you can think of.

11. four adults on a moto at one time is not unusual. three adults, a caldron of food and a few arm fulls of packages are normal.

12. a moto driven by a very old man with his equally old wife on the back, she has a bundle of 20 bamboo poles, each longer than the road is wide and she carries them so they go from side to side, not long ways. they make it all the way along the river and out to the russian market without stopping or getting killed.

shamas o'dognasty

Goa Master
08-26-06, 23:47
hello guys,

Its will be my first time in pp so so qestions ok.

I will stay in pp for about 3 to 5 nights.

I have all info on hotels and money from this forum thats all ok but I like to know when I come to cambodia whit the airplain where I get a taxi to take me to my hotel and how moch I pay for that taxi?

Also is al money in cambodia in $$ or is it better to change my money in riel?

I am goiing for about 3 to 5 nights so is 500 $$ ok for this time?

So guys some help her is ok thanks alot

Marc

Kens14
08-27-06, 02:29
Goa Master,

you can pick up a taxi from the taxi stand at the airport just after you leave arrivals - a taxi to the city costs $7, the guys who run the stand speak pretty good English.

Don't change your money to Riehls, whenever you pay for something in US$ you'll get the small money change back in Riehls.

$500 for 5 nights should easily be enough depending upon your tastes & action. However, an average pricing on a trip might be:

Hotel $20/night (eg Paragon / Asia Hotel / Flamingos)
LT $20/night.
Food $10/day
Alcohol $40/day (!!)
transport $5/day

leaving you with 25$ to pay the outrageous PSC on your exit from the country.

Enjoy your time !

Kens.

Khunk
08-27-06, 04:05
Marc, when are you going to PP? I'll be there from Sept. 7th through the 10th. It will be my first trip too. My hotel is arranging my taxi at a cost of $7.00 so they are picking me up. Let me know via PM. Have a good trip.


hello guys,

Its will be my first time in pp so so qestions ok.

I will stay in pp for about 3 to 5 nights.

I have all info on hotels and money from this forum thats all ok but I like to know when I come to cambodia whit the airplain where I get a taxi to take me to my hotel and how moch I pay for that taxi?

Also is al money in cambodia in $$ or is it better to change my money in riel?

I am goiing for about 3 to 5 nights so is 500 $$ ok for this time?

So guys some help her is ok thanks alot

Marc

Run Mann
08-27-06, 05:28
Goa,

Some hotels like the Flamingos and Asia Hotel offer free transport from the airport to the hotel. Flamingos is a favorite of many members of this board and I concur having stayed there in the past, but I want to try the Asia Hotel this time. Their web site advertises a fitness center and in-room interet access and other amenities for $20.00. I will be there from 10 Sept if anyone is in town.

Here is a good link with hotels in PP http://www.canbypublications.com/phnompenh/pphotels.htm

Kens14
08-27-06, 06:48
Flamingos pick up service has been reliable for 4 of my visits, but I gave up on it when they sent a tuk-tuk rather than the usual van !

If you're looking at other hotels a few suggestions are:

The Purple Orchid - backs onto Flamingos and as such is even closer to the skankabout than Flamingos. It is also directly opposite Hooters.

The Paragon - down on the riverside, better bathrooms than Flamingo's and more to do during the daytime than around St. 51 (except for the obvious!).

The Asia Palace - on the corner of Monivong & Charles de Gaulle, much more luxurious than any of the other hotels mentioned here. Their rack rates are $40 for a double, however you can get them down to $30 during low season. (GF as well).

enjoy,

Kens

Chemist UK
08-27-06, 23:15
Hi there,

I will be in the area when you are, maybe i will check out the Asia hotel with in-room internet access. Sounds good. Care to hang out? Chemist UK.


Goa,

Some hotels like the Flamingos and Asia Hotel offer free transport from the airport to the hotel. Flamingos is a favorite of many members of this board and I concur having stayed there in the past, but I want to try the Asia Hotel this time. Their web site advertises a fitness center and in-room interet access and other amenities for $20.00. I will be there from 10 Sept if anyone is in town.

Here is a good link with hotels in PP http://www.canbypublications.com/phnompenh/pphotels.htm

Run Mann
08-28-06, 11:50
If you are at at the Asia Hotel during that time, lets do it, should be fun
Hi there,

I will be in the area when you are, maybe i will check out the Asia hotel with in-room internet access. Sounds good. Care to hang out? Chemist UK.

Goa Master
08-28-06, 20:43
Marc, when are you going to PP? I'll be there from Sept. 7th through the 10th. It will be my first trip too. My hotel is arranging my taxi at a cost of $7.00 so they are picking me up. Let me know via PM. Have a good trip.
I will be in PP the second week in September so I hoop to see you there, ok?

Phantomtiger2
08-30-06, 09:39
Hey Dodomad,
I've tried several times to PM you with the info on Thailand that you requested but your PM is either out of service or blocked. PM me when its clear/working and I'll give it another shot.

PT

Samu Ray
08-30-06, 20:20
Two posts back someone mentions $7 for a taxi, is that from the airport to
the hotel?

What I do is walk out to the main street after clearing customs, I always
pay $1 to downtown, Phnom Penh.

Muzungufotsy
08-30-06, 23:01
Two posts back someone mentions $7 for a taxi, is that from the airport to the hotel?

What I do is walk out to the main street after clearing customs, I always pay $1 to downtown, Phnom Penh.I guess the guy was talking about a car and you are talking about a motodop.

I agree with you it is 1$ to get into town.

Muzungufotsy
08-30-06, 23:02
Two posts back someone mentions $7 for a taxi, is that from the airport to the hotel?

What I do is walk out to the main street after clearing customs, I always
pay $1 to downtown, Phnom Penh.I guess the guy was talking about a car and you are talking about a motodop.

I agree with you it is 1$ to get into town.

Phantomtiger2 just add me on msn thanks.

RodneyRude
08-31-06, 06:47
Am currently in Pnhom pen and having a ball, staying at the flamingo and enjoying the benefits of mongering in the off season,loads of bard with lots of girls and beggar all competition around.(perfect) Need a wingman though so if anyone else is staying near Flamingos on street 51 let me know ok.

Hey Matt, if your reading this I lost your e mail and phone number so pm if you do.

Kens14
08-31-06, 14:04
Hi Samuray,

the US$6 which you save by walking to the main road is to be applauded. I mean that is 3.15GBP, or, $4.7 Euros, or, 7.8 AUD !

I applaud your ability to save this money. Especially as many of our fellow readers will have spent hundreds of USD$ to fly half the way around the world to Cambodia. I certainly wouldn't want to waste $6USD. I'm definately going to take that walk across the car park from now on. Thanks for the heads up !

Fast Eddie 48
09-01-06, 07:35
I guess the guy was talking about a car and you are talking about a motodop.

I agree with you it is 1$ to get into town.


to dodomad / samus ray

I pay $6 taxi I think taxi driver need to pay airport fee , You cannot take the
moto bike if you have large luggage even you go outside the airport and try
to get a taxi it is still around $ 4.00 usd .

fast eddie 48

Wolfsheim
09-01-06, 12:56
DV8 bar and guesthouse is an interesting place, basically a hostess bar with a guesthouse on top.

Rooms are $5 - $25 for people staying at the guesthouse.

Cleanliness of rooms is poor to average for low end rooms.

Bar fine for girls is $10 before 11pm and $5 after.

A nice night was had with one girl $20 LT

however some girls are asking $40 with no room for negotiation.

Food is available from the bar and drinks are moderately priced.

Wolfsheim

Mai Yao
09-03-06, 04:31
Flamingos pick up service has been reliable for 4 of my visits, but I gave up on it when they sent a tuk-tuk rather than the usual van !

If you're looking at other hotels a few suggestions are:

The Purple Orchid - backs onto Flamingos and as such is even closer to the skankabout than Flamingos. It is also directly opposite Hooters.

The Paragon - down on the riverside, better bathrooms than Flamingo's and more to do during the daytime than around St. 51 (except for the obvious!).

The Asia Palace - on the corner of Monivong & Charles de Gaulle, much more luxurious than any of the other hotels mentioned here. Their rack rates are $40 for a double, however you can get them down to $30 during low season. (GF as well).

enjoy,

KensOne problem I've encountered at THE PURPLE ORCHID as well as THE KAMBUJA INN down the same street closer to Noradum is that they have no night staff, they lock the front gate at 11pm. You have to stand in the street and pound on the gate to wake somebody up and let you in, not really what you want to do at 0230am with a girl or two on your arm.

Once, at the PURPLE ORCHID, at 1:30am during a rainstorm it took almost 30 minutes for the guy to finally wake-up and unlock the entry; I won't stay there again because of that even though their rooms are very nice.

On another note, on the next parallel street to the one HOOTERS is on (opposite direction from Flamingos) there is an excellent little french deli; great sandwiches on homemade bread. The BLT I had there was one of the best I have ever had. The coffee, crossaints, soups and salads were all first rate and reasonably priced. Look for a small, black sign "DELI", close to the Noradum end of the street, closed Mondays.

GutCheck
09-07-06, 14:42
"Me like you too much."

"You be my boyfriend now."

"Mama need hundred dallah for eyes." (or some variation on that theme)

Let me state the obvious. All they want from you is your money and they'll say anything they think will work to get just a little more out of you.

Now let me RE-state the obvious. ALL THEY WANT FROM IS YOUR MONEY.

It makes no difference what kind of stud muffin you think you are. It makes no difference how much they bill and coo in your arms. It makes no difference how much your high school sweetheart convinced you you're the Almighty's gift to women. All these babes want is your money.

Once you work out that fact, then you can have a great time in Phnom Penh with none of the buyer's remorse which comes from feeling like you've been had.

The preceding has been a pubic service announcement.

Straycat
09-07-06, 18:43
"Me like you too much."

"You be my boyfriend now."

"Mama need hundred dallah for eyes." (or some variation on that theme)

Let me state the obvious. All they want from you is your money and they'll say anything they think will work to get just a little more out of you.

Now let me RE-state the obvious. ALL THEY WANT FROM IS YOUR MONEY.

It makes no difference what kind of stud muffin you think you are. It makes no difference how much they bill and coo in your arms. It makes no difference how much your high school sweetheart convinced you you're the Almighty's gift to women. All these babes want is your money.

Once you work out that fact, then you can have a great time in Phnom Penh with none of the buyer's remorse which comes from feeling like you've been had.

The preceding has been a pubic service announcement.Thanks for the heads up -- But since I'm not coming to PP to find a girlfriend, all I want to know is do they suck and fuck -- and how well -- and for how much -- and where are the best places to go.

StrayCat

Buko Max
09-07-06, 23:34
a few days ago, i was watching msnbc and an interesting hour long investigative report on the sex trade in cambodia aired. the just of the report was about **** girls going out with middle aged guys but they touched on other aspects of the scene in pp.

there was plenty of hidden camera footage starting with the activities at the martini bar. they zeroed in on a doctor from oklahoma who was looking for his nightly squeeze, the poor sap. later on they confronted him about what he bragged about at the bar.

the report went on to say that the hot bed for **** activity was in svay pak, 11 kms from pp. the corespondents helped the authorities to set up a sting targeting the mama and papasans involved in peddling girls. in the end, most of the people involved were sentenced to 15 years in prison.

Trotamundos
09-07-06, 23:56
Now let me RE-state the obvious. ALL THEY WANT FROM IS YOUR MONEY.If you have ever visited in Phnom Penh, you should know that actually Khmer ladies are among the sweetest in the world and really careful and polite when asking money from you. Even black girls.

Surely, many girls are poor and have a family to support and they really need money. But it is the same thing in all of the third world countries of the world. So why bring it up for Cambodia only? It is more like a general rule for the world.

We do not live in a garden.

Br, Trotamundos

Run Mann
09-08-06, 02:00
I saw that show but it was a re-run of previously broadcast show because I remember seeing it about some years ago. One obvious way to tell it was a re-run was they interviewed Colin Powell as the (current) Secretary of State asking him his views on the Doctor and the sex trade, as we know Powell is long gone from the Bush Administration.

Buko Max
09-08-06, 02:14
Hello Run Mann,

I realize that network replays virtually everything they originally broadcast. Colin Powell quit his job almost 2 years ago, is that program that old?

Excelsior

Run Mann
09-08-06, 07:24
It is and it may have been that they had an update on some events surrounding the original broadcast, but I did not watch the whole thing this time as I had seen it before.
Hello Run Mann,

I realize that network replays virtually everything they originally broadcast. Colin Powell quit his job almost 2 years ago, is that program that old?

Excelsior

Ekspat
09-08-06, 08:39
Maybe the corrupt NGO's are short with taxpayers money and can't buy new 4WD's to make sightseeing tours. Meanwhile they might be that desperate that they aren't shy anymore to air more than 2 years old reports, so that the feminist groups back in their homecountry can whine around and seek for fresh fundings.

Cheers!

Run Mann
09-14-06, 10:13
:( The Asia hotel :( (not to be confused with the Asia Palace Hotel) is a dump, the basic rooms were so smelly I asked to be moved up to the the deluxe room which is a bigger room but just more of a dump. Taking into acount this is Cambodia, I took some steps back and realize that I was was not in the Asia Hotel in Korea or Ramada Hotel at JFK but it still should not have been this bad. First the internet service advertised on their site is not free, it is $5.00 a day in the room and $2.00 per hour in the lobby area. The manager spent about five hours trying to get the internet to work in my room, finally I got fed up and told him I was leaving. He wanted to offer me another room, but I had wasted so much time with him, I wanted to leave. Checked out, paid $30.00 for the room and this joker had the nerve to want to charge $5.00 for internet services that did not work. Normally I never haggle and nickel and dime with people but man, that was one of the main reason I was checking out the same day. They could not provide the service they advertised, but I remained calm, remembered to smile and told him no way in hell was I paying him $5.00 for internet that did not work.

He got the message and took it off the bill, checked out and went to Flamingos which was my first choice anyway but the Asia Hotel web site was too attractive to pass up or so it seemed at the time. Flamingos does have in-room wireless internet now too, but just as with the land access, it is slow.

I would stay away from Asia hotel as I said, the rooms in Flamingos are much nicer and cheaper,and Flamingos is a basic Hotel, the fitness Center at the Asia Hotel is a few machines in a room, but I did not check to see what worked or did not worked. Towels in the bathroom look like floor rags and were very worn, the entire atmpsohere in the room was too dispressing to want to stay in there. When I checkeed into Flamingos, the lady at the desk said that another gentleman was also having issues at the Asia Hotel and was checking out to come to the Flamingos the next day. Phnom Phen is still ok though, will post my observations later.

Oh! Thanks to Chhoeun Sovann http://phnompenhdriver.com/ for driving me around. I used the other driver named Mook the last time but he did not anwer my email so I used Sovann and he is a good guy, very calm and accomodating. Gas price is a big issue now, even the Tuk-Tuk drivers are making an issue of this but hell the difference of paying $3.00 instead or one or two is really a non-issue to me.

Lustforthrust
09-14-06, 15:44
Has anybody done this? How long before it hits? Would it be better to arrange for p4p before happy-pizza?

Asian Rain
09-14-06, 17:45
Has anybody done this? How long before it hits? Would it be better to arrange for p4p before happy-pizza?
I was sick as a dog after taking a Happy Herb pizza - lost an entire night to wretching vomit. If you want to be happy, smoke it, don't eat it. Any night in the popular bars you can smell the happy smoke. To each his own, although I can't imagine why one would want to dull their senses before they partake in a tasty Cambo or Viet pussy. Enjoy PNH, AR+

Stew2
09-15-06, 01:27
Has anybody done this? How long before it hits? Would it be better to arrange for p4p before happy-pizza?

I tried it. The waiter was surprised and asked me again to make sure I knew what I was asking for. Somewhat amusing. Didn't make me sick. Gave me a buzz about half an hour later, and made me tired. Had some fun under its influence (think I went to Mikado that night after dinner), but couldn't say it was that big a deal. Actually eating it can give you a better buzz than smoking, but I don't think the dosage or the quality in the happy pizzas is sufficient to make it matter that much. Of course, I only did the experiment once. YMMV

Wolfsheim
09-15-06, 03:38
Hi,

Can someone please update me with the state of play in Phnom Phen brothels ?

Are they safe to use ? Is 63rd street still active ? Any new places I should know about ?

All information appreciated.

Cheers

Wolfsheim

Member #4530
09-15-06, 09:22
I was there recently. Still plenty of them but they are stretched over maybe a mile of ST 63. I don't do inhouse and always do take out so I can't qualify what they're like inside. I do find they're asking $15 for takeout to hotel now. I always refuse and have got them down to the standard $10 for one or two hours at hotel.

One known fact, the house on the east side of ST 63 at the corner of Red Cross Rd. (across from the now defunct Tommy's) is a guaranteed robbery if you venture upstairs.



Hi,

Can someone please update me with the state of play in Phnom Phen brothels ?

Are they safe to use ? Is 63rd street still active ? Any new places I should know about ?

All information appreciated.

Cheers

Wolfsheim

Member #4530
09-15-06, 09:27
For some of us it makes the senses more keen and experience more intense. The trick is in getting the correct dosage. My favorite is Ecstatic Pizza on Norodom.



I was sick as a dog after taking a Happy Herb pizza - lost an entire night to wretching vomit. If you want to be happy, smoke it, don't eat it. Any night in the popular bars you can smell the happy smoke. To each his own, although I can't imagine why one would want to dull their senses before they partake in a tasty Cambo or Viet pussy. Enjoy PNH, AR+

KingTubby
09-15-06, 13:47
Tried it in Siem Reap (Ecstatic Pizza) and Phnom Penh (on Sisowath Quay - forget the name). No extra charge at both places. Recommended.

Fair bit of a delay compared with smoking. Hard to guage the dosage, but the guys at the shops are fairly experienced. Enhances the boom-boom in my opinion.

My first photo posting - hope the files aren't too large.

Run Mann
09-16-06, 05:21
Spent four days in PP this past week and my activities in no particular order are as follows:

I already post my misfortunes with the Asia Hotel but YMMV with them but I will never use them again. Try Sophie’s and will skip the usual description previously mention by other posters but everyone should experience at least once in their mongering lives of going into an club and have girls literally fight over whose turn it is to suck you off, just an incredible feeling. I went in there at about 7 pm and was the only customer so I was swarmed and welcomed almost felt like retuning home from a long trip and be welcome by your dogs, except the dogs don't give head. I lost track real easily of who was doing the sucking because while one girl is sucking the others are looking at you saying pick me and fighting with each other about “its my turn”. Any way I pick a real slender one, flat abs, almost no body fat and a short kind of cute chick, and yes the model looking girl was more for FS while the chubby one had quite suction.

I know everyone is different but when I was finished I was sitting there kind of relaxing and chatting with a couple of the girls another customer walked in, kind of a hippie-looking guy, he got the same treatment from the girls, had a sheepless grin like he didn't know what to do but the girl were far from shy. Anyway I looked up next and this man is deep kissing one of the girls. Its a blow job bar, everyone knows these girls sucks for a living and you come in and put your mouth on hers... oh well, if that makes you happy.

I like Cat House Bar and Restaurant, in the vicinity of Sophie’s Club, good shrimp fried rice and a nice girl from Vietnam that was a real pro. She played the game about not wanting to go with customers just for sex, she wanted to know if I like her, of course I do, come to my room and I will show you, not tonight, tomorrow she said. Ok, the next night I went back and she laid it on, wanted to go shopping first and wanted to know if I would buy her ticket to Thailand. No shopping babe, but I'm thinking Air Asia has good deals on tickets to Thailand for under $100.00 so why not? In the end, I said goodbye because she was looking for more than I could give, I only had four days so there's no way I could invest time or shopping money in her but I like the club, lots of other beautiful girls there too.

Shangai (sp) Bar- next to Flamingos is a pretty relaxing place too, abundance of girls but again I had to pick one that wanted to know if I liked her first, same kind of story as the girl at Cat House but I did not return the following night to that club as I had another girl that night.

Hooters - (around the corner from the Flamingos Hotel) -the girls there have none but good chicken wings and atmosphere, terrible music though, and lots of old retired men swapping stories

Never made into Walkabout by Hooters but when I looked in there it was packed and looked to be a fun place.

There are quiet a few Casinos in PP, but the girls that worked in these Casinos may be harder to pick up but I got the feeling that they were available, maybe not as easy as the girls in the clubs but they could be had. The first night I went into one and committed the name to memory to return the next night because I was flirting with the cute Korean looking Viet girl but I must be getting old because I could not remember the name of the Casino and could not find the Tuk-Tuk driver that took me there the first night. Anyway the slots are 2 cents, that is correct, 2 cents for the slots and the roulette game was 5 cents. There are larger casinos where the slots are 20 cents and 50 cent for the roulette game. The Casinos do provide you with free finger food so if you have $5.00 to spare, time to talk to the girls and eat free food, its not a bad deal, I don't think anyone will win any kind of significant money in these Casinos but it was fun for me in the two Casinos I went into.

My two favorite places are the Golden Boss and the Golden Town clubs. They are both Cambodian Clubs that with a live band and play Cambodian music and some English songs but they are old corny songs like “tie a ribbon round the old oak tree” but the people were dancing up a storm to that song. The Golden Boss is more expensive, they said the quality of the girls are higher, but its hard to see their faces in the low lighting in there and with all the make up, you really don’t know what they really look like until you are back in the room. If you go to any of these clubs, the girls on the outside and the hallway that greet you are not the take home girls. I found that out the hard way because I pick one out of the greeting line and was having the time of my life with her dancing and she is holding on to me like we are lovers, dancing to the slow songs I’m rubbing against her and she rubs back and I am thinking yes, I am in, until I told her lets go and she said “me no go, only dance”. She gave me her phone number and told me to meet her the next day but I got burn with that next day thing before so I passed. Real pleasant atmosphere, the best thing to do is to go in have a seat and have the Mama bring the girls over to you and you pick the one you want and can take out if but as I said the Cub is real dark but I highly recommend these two clubs.

Martinis- I was not too impressed with was there, maybe it was just the night I went so I did not stayed there too long

Sovann and probably all the taxi divers can take you to the water front floating market or whatever those houses are called. The houses are on the side of the river and the girls have rooms. However, the standards and cleanliness of these places are not the best, take a bag with some hand sanitizers’ and towel wipes. We went to this one house and I know Asians sometimes look younger that their age but there’s no way all of these girls are 18. I don’t know if it’s a game with the shyness or they are just shy but the place we went everyone but the Mama was shy, sort of a cute thing covering their faces and smiling and looking away when you look at them. I had one session with a short but smiling girl, took some time to get her to relax but she was worth it, I like sitting out there on the river front, very peaceful, good atmosphere. $10.00 for the room and $20.00 for the girl.

Traffic in PP is organized mayhem, but the key word is that it is organized and they have a system, I can’t explain it but would never want to drive in it. It’s not the biggest vehicle that has the right of way too because I saw larger vehicles yielding for Tuk-Tuk drivers but that is a sight to see, similar to the traffic in Hanoi.

Flamingos is still going strong- really can’t go wrong with that Hotel and the staff, they have an excellent massage shop across from the Flamingos with some cute girls and a gay guy that never stopped smiling but they girls do not come to your room. Flamingos do not have their own independent girls that they can arrange to come to your room though.

I wish they would stop pasting that big VISA stamp in my passport; it takes up a whole page, $20.00 for the visa and $25.00 departure fee from the Airport.

Air Asia has some real good deal on the tickets to PP and other places but you have to pay for the food service, the plane ride was smooth, I saw where someone had criticize the AA ride but it felt no different that Thai Air, Korean Air or any of the other airline.

I had a great time in PP, it still cheap and lots of opportunities because every motor bike, Tuk-Tuk or Taxi driver can take you to the right places even if you don’t know where to go.

Prince Harry
09-17-06, 08:32
Has anybody done this? How long before it hits? Would it be better to arrange for p4p before happy-pizza?I did the happy pizza every night in siem riep and PP.

They never were strong enough but always a good buzz before visiting mikado-my favourite joint.

GWillie
09-18-06, 14:13
Run Mann,

Can you give us a better idea about the location of this place on the river? I am not familiar with it.