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01-01-02, 01:00
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Daniel_You
12-31-02, 15:34
Farang,

I have visited the site and have joined as a member for free. It is an useful site, I guess.

There surely are the working hours on each introductions, but if your computer doesn't allow to see the Chinese font, it would be very difficult for you, unfortunately.

Daniel


Originally posted by farangsteve
Hi All, let me ask a stupid question from a newbie in Hong kOng.

I like that site www.******.com but how is it possible to meet

those girls as it is all written in chinese, so it is not easy not to

say impossible to find the adress.

HOw can one know when the girl is available or not? will there be a red light in front of her room?

The clientele is mainly chinese or are they used to see western people?

Thanks in advance for your info.

nwtn20
12-31-02, 18:21
I have not been to the places near the royal garden hotel, but my friends tell me they are quite expensive ans service is so so.

I usuallly go to Lotus Sauna in TST on Haipong road, The place is very clean and staff are friendly, other facilities are nice steam room, sauna, hot tub etc. also when i visit they i see western customers. After massage I usually stay in the lounge relax, to a nap, watch TV, eat and drink. No pressure to leave.

The price starts at $888 for 1.5 hours massage + HJ, BM is $1388, I think Full Service is $1888 (never tried) .There is a $100 discount if you arrive before 3.00pm/4.00pm cannot remember exactly.

The massage skill of the girls are very good as you would expect for the price, the age and quality can vary a lot. Personally I like more mature girls 35+, better massage skill. When it comes to HJ, BJ etc experience shows.

Anyways, Happy New Year to all in WSG. and Happy Hunting!


Originally posted by daystar
I will be in Hong Kong for the first time in late Jan. and early Frb. at the Royal Gardens and decided I might look for a little fun. Anything interesting in the area?

AlLostInSpace13
01-04-03, 14:01
Hey farangsteve,
Forget about ******. In general those are women too old to work in a massage parlor. The locations are next to impossible to find and imho dangerous to go by yourself. Even if you find her, it's a total waste of time. I've tried 3 times. I found the lady on the first time, but she was in her late twenties or early thirties. Lots of restrictions. Won't do her again. And in the other times, I couldn't even locate the place. Remember that some of these are in residential areas and therefore no signs or indications. I did not want to ring the door bell and then find out it's the wrong address...
Stick to massages, they give the best value. A friend of mine just visited HK for a month and he said that in the Sum Shui Po area, there are great deals to be found. I kinda remember the name of the street was Nam Cheng Street. Lots of selections from mainland China. Some prices as low as $200!!! However, at this price don't expect five star locations. And often times there won't even be a shower in the room.

Just me 2 cents worth

JohnTodd
01-04-03, 20:49
Where is the Sum Shui Po area in Hong Kong?
I usually stay at the Conrad, is there any action in the area where the Conrad is located.
Any suggestions in Monkok?

Daniel_You
01-05-03, 11:32
John,

Sorry, I don't know where Sum Shui Po is...

Conrad Hotel is located in Pacific Plaza, with Island Shangri-La and JW Marriott hotel. I am now heading for HK and will stay at Marriott for 5 nights.

Wanchai, very near from Conrad, is famous for its variety of selections among so many clubs, but those are TOO expensive.

In Mongkok, you can buy a girl, sometime mainland Chinese, at cheaper price.

Good luck!

Daniel


Originally posted by johntodd
Where is the Sum Shui Po area in Hong Kong?
I usually stay at the Conrad, is there any action in the area where the Conrad is located.
Any suggestions in Monkok?

AlLostInSpace13
01-05-03, 15:00
Sum Shui Po has a Metro station by the same name. It is the area where the Golden Shopping Centre is located. Infamous for all kinds of pirated software.
Nam Cheng street lies somewhere in the neighborhood. I suggest anyone interested should scout out the neighborhood during the day before going shopping at night.

Aleatreiu
01-05-03, 16:50
Just back from lotus sauna.
First time.
I think the place is very nice and relaxing the girls are very skilled in massage and discrete i was only unluck to get one that i don't like so much (n 38) so i only have a hj.
Anyone can suggest other name or number of girls good looking with big bobbs?
Hope you find interesting.
Bye bros

Intransit
01-08-03, 18:05
I posted this on another board earlier tonight, but I like this board and the people who read it much better, so I thought I would share it here, too.


I've never used an escort service or other take-out booking service, so I can't comment on that.

My primary hunting grounds in Hong Kong were the Lockhart Road bars. I can recommend three in particular, in this order:

Country Laser. Right across the street from Coyote, which is a good place to stock up on margaritas and nachos before beginning the hunt. As a bar/club, it sucks. There are essentially only bar stools, and the couches towards the back of the club are occupied by the triad dudes that run the place. Also, the dancing done by the girls is, although choreographed, the least enthusiastic you'll see anywhere on the street.

That said, it also has what I believe are consistently the finest girls in that area. I've never heard of anyone taking out from there and not having a great time. The girl that I know that's there right now is Lany (pronounced LAH-nee). She's not the best bod in the place (she's had two kids) but an enthusiastic professional nonetheless. However, most types of girls are represented there--big tits, slim, long hair, short, whatever. The bar has, among the girls on the Road, the reputation for being the strictest in terms of living conditions and control, but the girls are also known as the sexiest. One of the place's biggest problems is that more than once, customers have fallen in love with girls and vice-versa, and there are regularly offers by customers to buy out their contracts. I know--I did. My girlfriend is ex-Country.

Be aware that at Country and other places on the Road, there is a short-time option. After a certain point in the evening, about 1 am, that option disappears. It's about HK$2000-$2500. I've never used it, but it does exist.


Country 88--By far the best of the bars as a bar. Good, open layout, lots of girls, lots of dancing, big screen TV with satellite sports, and the illustrious "Jurassic Park," an in-house service area. The quality of girls here can vary, but it's usually pretty good. Mamasans here are Chinese, unlike some of the other places, where they're Filipina. I took out a girl from here who just went back for good. She was great. Definitely pop down and have a look.


Club Wild Cat--If you want big tits, then go to Wild Cat and ask for Sheryl. She's there until the spring. You can tell her you know Steven and leave it at that, although I can't say I treated her exceptionally well. Wild Cat is a shit little bar, but the girls are ok. Lots of attitude, if that's what you like. Ex-Country girls work here (it's run by the same people) because they hate the big boss mamasan at Country, Wild Cat is much more pleasant, they say. Some of the girls here could use a diet, but overall, not bad, not bad at all.

Be aware that Country and others used to have a rule that if you were in the bar for the first time, and they didn't know you, you couldn't take a girl out unless you were with a regular customer. Business is so bad now I think they'd let anyone take anyone out, but just be advised of this in case it comes up, although I doubt it.

And one last one, a place that FreqFlier, who is both a gentleman and a gracious host, introduced me to. Club Pub-Pipe, formerly Popeye's or Popeye 2 (they ran into some copyright trouble), although they still use the Popeye caricature. It's on the side of Lockhart Road towards Hennessey Road, but is on the area of the street away from the pedestrian bridge, closer to the HSBC branch on Hennessey, across from the Wharney Hotel, which, BTW, is a perfect staging area if you're really going to do Wan Chai.

Didn't take out from Pub-Pipe, but there were two girls there in November, Eileen and Irene, who were just way sexy, both about 20. FreqFlier was busy getting freaky with two others, and E and I were just a riot. One of them went back, I think the other one is still there.


Timing: This is very important. In my opinion, the best night of the week to do Wan Chai is Sunday. All the bars close at 3. Most of the girls do not expect to go out, and all the bars expect to have a slow night. Because closing time is at 3, that means you could start getting good bargains around 1 or 2, when you might still be awake and not half in the bag, instead of at 3 or 4, when you're neither. There's little competition in the way of other guys and generally the girls are quite relaxed. Also, because there's no one else in the place, the mamasans won't chase the girls off to other customers if you're not buying them drinks.

I'm not saying you won't have a good time at other clubs, it's just that I found the quality varies too much at other places. Had some good nights at Highway, but the girls there are a tad aggressive. I don't like the bars down the way from Country closer to the pedestrian bridge, i.e. Club San Francisco. The Chinese touts outside are annoying and the girls are fairly skanky.

Last thing: be aware that these girls essentially live like indentured servants. They sign a six-month contract. That gets them roundtrip airfare to HK, a visa, and dormitory to live in. They often share a bed with one or two other girls. They get one meal per day, anything beyond that they pay for. Every time they go out with a customer, they get HK$1250. I think they get HK$60 per ladies' drink, which is $220 or $330 depending on the club and the drink. Yes, absolutely, they made that decision, they know, for the most part, what they're getting into. But just bear in mind that their life ain't a big thrill. I did this scene hard and often for about a year, so I'm no angel. But I got two girls out of the business and I don't regret it, it's a shit life for them.

Mega
01-09-03, 07:04
blah,

Chinese New Year on 1st Feb. You will be in HK during the festive season.

:D

AussieGuy
01-10-03, 09:43
Hi guys,
Leaving for Hong Kong on the 3rd of March and this will be my first time visiting the place. I'm looking at staying in a really comfy 4-5 star hotel close to the "action" And was looking for a hotel with a night club or a bar. Or, a hotel that is close to a night-club with some "free-lancer" action going on. Can you reccomend any hotels in Hong Kong like this? I've heard pleanty abouth the Inter Continental Grand Stamford. Also I want to be a bit discrete about the whole thing, I don't want the hotel staff to ask too many questions about the "ladies" comming up to my room.

Cheers,
Aussieguy.

AlLostInSpace13
01-12-03, 15:24
Aussieguy,
"Action" that is close to a 4-5 star hotel is probably high priced - HK$1,000-$2,000+. And HK hotels don't have "special" in-room massage services. It's illegal. If you want to hunt for the vast variety of more inexpensive "action" (in the HK$300-$400 range), you should find a hotel in the Kowloon side, perhaps as close to Nathan and Jordan Road as possible. Unfortunately Nathan and Jordan are very congested with buildings and large 4-5 star hotels are hard to find... Do a web search yourself.
You should definitely make a trip to Macau or Shanghai, where "special" in-room massage services are readily available.

Al

Wolf
01-12-03, 18:14
SlLostInSpace13
Could you share the names of hotels in Shanghai where you can get special in room massage ?
Many thanks in advance

Papadum
01-12-03, 21:37
Aussieguy:
What you have emntioned/your wishes aplplies in any cities in China, but not Hong Kong! And in Hong Kong, hotels don't care about who you go with into your room, you might have confused with China.
I would suggest for the first timer to Hong Kong not to stay in those hotels near Mongkok/Yaumati. These areas are not clean and safe for foreigner.
Al's suggestion is in fact the best bet - if you want trouble-free, quality laid, go to Macau, only a couple of hours away by hydrofoil, nice hotels, nice service, pretty girls from China, and best of all, it's inexpensive and safe. In case you don't know, unlike Hong Kong, prostitution is legal in Macau. You can in fact enquire for packages at the shops at the Macau ferry complex - including return ferry ticket, hotel room and a girl. Dn't worry, it's an open business.

JohnTodd
01-15-03, 07:30
I will ne in Hong Kong this wekend, any suggestions of where to go for a massage with HJ?
What are the costs?
I assume Monkok is the best place, especially for a long say 2 hour massage.

andy&sammi
01-15-03, 08:00
My wife wants to have an erotic massage with another female. Can anyone suggest any massage places who would offer such service????

TravelMen
01-15-03, 13:19
Hi Guys.

Hope you can help on two subjects.

I shall be in HK in early Feb.

Please can you tell me the current place to get the best women.
I shall be staying in Causway Bay.

Also, what is the best bar/club to perhaps pick up a normal local girl. I don't know how easy or not the locals are there.
I am going to Manila after so didn't want a Philpino.
Heard Carnegies is good and Joe Bananas.

Any help would be great.

BJK
01-15-03, 17:23
Originally posted by travelmen
Hi Guys.

Hope you can help on two subjects.

I shall be in HK in early Feb.

Please can you tell me the current place to get the best women.
I shall be staying in Causway Bay.

Also, what is the best bar/club to perhaps pick up a normal local girl. I don't know how easy or not the locals are there.
I am going to Manila after so didn't want a Philpino.
Heard Carnegies is good and Joe Bananas.

Any help would be great.

Bad time of year. It is Chinese New Year. Many places are closed. Most Chinese will be home with their families.

If you are reasonably young and good looking go to Lan Kwai Fong.
There are many bars there to pick up locals
It is pretty easy to pick up a local but will require more investment than a pro. HK girls know market value.
I once took a girl to a nice Japanese restaurant. She then invited her friend. Cost was ~$HK3000. After the dinner they wanted to go shopping. I baulked at that and went home.
Later I met up with them and had a great time. Still had to shell out more money but eventually got the price per shot down to a reasonable level.

If you like Thai here are many in the bars around wan chai
Suggest Neptune and La Bamba
La Bamba usually has a good selection but the drinks can be expensive. It seems it is the custom for many girls to order a tequilla as well as some pink cocktail. That will set you back $HK140. Watch out if she has a friend! Just refuse the tequilla and if you like her get down to business and get out of there.

BJK
01-15-03, 17:39
Originally posted by johntodd
I will ne in Hong Kong this wekend, any suggestions of where to go for a massage with HJ?
What are the costs?
I assume Monkok is the best place, especially for a long say 2 hour massage.

If you don't mind slightly older (say 35) but experienced for hand job then i favour Tokyo Steam Bath in TST.

After midnight there is a special two sessions for price of one.
But even in normal time they will do normal massage for nearly the 45 minute time and then whatever time you need after that.
one tired day i had 30 minutes over. They still had time for a face massage after i came

Note that 2 hour massage anywhere in Hong Kong means 2 x session. A session is 45 minutes, even though they say one hour!

JohnTodd
01-16-03, 04:26
Please advise the fee. Also is there any massage place in Monkok?
If you don't mind slightly older (say 35) but experienced for hand job then i favour Tokyo Steam Bath in TST.

After midnight there is a special two sessions for price of one.
But even in normal time they will do normal massage for nearly the 45 minute time and then whatever time you need after that.
one tired day i had 30 minutes over. They still had time for a face massage after i came

Note that 2 hour massage anywhere in Hong Kong means 2 x session. A session is 45 minutes, even though they say one hour! [/QUOTE]

HKferry
01-16-03, 13:49
Originally posted by bjk
If you are reasonably young and good looking go to Lan Kwai Fong.
There are many bars there to pick up locals
It is pretty easy to pick up a local but will require more investment than a pro. HK girls know market value.
I once took a girl to a nice Japanese restaurant. She then invited her friend. Cost was ~$HK3000. After the dinner they wanted to go shopping. I baulked at that and went home.
Later I met up with them and had a great time. Still had to shell out more money but eventually got the price per shot down to a reasonable level.



LKF is a pretty expensive place, i don't go there and i even live in the mid-levels! I find that regular women in HK are super high maintanence and on more than one occasion i was left high and dry.

THe girls you speak of, were they pro? or just girls? i am surprised they would ask money per shot if they are normal girls..

BJK
01-16-03, 15:15
HKferry,

They were regular girls. I was just comparing them to pros.
Cost per shot was what I worked out afterwards adding the drinks, dinners and gifts in comparison to paying directly with a pro.

You are right, HK girls are high maintenance.

BJK

sthsydman
01-17-03, 07:28
Hi,

I am coming to Hong Kong on the 15th February and will be staying at the Harbour PLaza Hotel. Can someone tell me where I can go near by for an inexpensive pickup of a girl for a night. Am keen to try Filipino or Thai girl while I am staying there. How much should I have to pay and is there anything I should be watching out for besides the price of the drinks for the ladies?

Thanks,

sthsydman

AlLostInSpace13
01-18-03, 15:03
sthsydman, where is your hotel located? do you have any kind of address? I'm not sure where's Harbour PLaza Hotel. My guess is that it's located in Hong Hum and it's a 5-6 star with a ocean view (literally right by the harbour). If that is indeed the one then you poor guy. I have scoured the area but found not a single sex entertaining establishment in the area.
You will have to travel to another area.

Intransit
01-18-03, 17:17
Let me answer some of these questions. Look at my post one page back for my recommendations on where to go in Wanchai for the top end.

The Harbour Plaza Hotel is a four-star hotel in Hung Hom. That's a long taxi ride away from most of the action, although Mongkok is not so far.

For Thai and Filipino girls, the place to go is Wanchai. If you're looking for quality, be prepared to pay at least HK$2500 if you go to one of the girlie bars on Lockhart Road. If you're looking for action at a lower cost, there are a couple of recommendations.

One is Dreams Cafe, upstairs from Mes Amis wine bar, which is on the corner of Luard Road and Lockhart Road, ground floor, you can't miss it. Dreams is essentially a mix of horny amateur Filipinas and semi-pros. In other words, they probably have some other job, but they fuck for money at night. If they really like you, you may get it for free. I've never taken out from this place (it's not my style) but a Lockhart Road vet I know passed up some really quality pussy at Club Pub-Pipe across the street to take someone for free there.

Nearby are discos like La Bamba, Neptune II and Dusk 'Til Dawn. I'm not a fan of the first or second, I find them sleazy, and I read a reliable report that a guy was drugged and robbed by a girl he picked up there.

Dusk 'Til Dawn is a great place, one of my real faves. I used to take girls out of the Lockhart Road bars and end up there to drink cheaper and listen to the live band. It's a great mix, and on weekends, it's wall to wall. Many working girls there. If you see a girl, if she's alone, give her a couple of minutes to make sure her boyfriend isn't just in the men's room, then make your move. Not many Filipinas there, but Thai and mainland Chinese. Not sure what the going rate is. Basically treat it like you're picking her up for free, just remember that at some point before or after you have sex you may have a conversation about money. If she doesn't say anything, it's polite to ask if she would like "taxi money" as she's leaving. HK$400-HK$1000 is the number I've heard, that will vary with service.

There must be a misconception that Hong Kong is hopping during Chinese New Year. The Chinese world is dead during that time. People are at home with their families. Only businesses run by foreigners and aimed primarily at non-Chinese, such as Pepperoni's pizza in the mid-Levels, on Staunton Street, are open. Anybody with a half a brain gets out of dodge and goes to Thailand or the Philippines or some place that isn't run by a majority of Chinese people.

Are there massage places in Mongkok? I think the question should be, is there anything but massage places in Mongkok? I know Mongkok is popular but in this monger's opinion, if you want to bust a nut inside a woman, the place is fine, but other than that it is a totally unsatisfying experience.

Papadum is right--the best place to get laid in Hong Kong is Macau.

Just to clarify one thing--be aware that in Hong Kong, prostitution between a consenting woman and a consenting man (or same sex, if such is the case) is legal. It is, however, illegal to be a pimp and illegal to run a house of prostitution. Technically, the mainland prostitutes that are jailed in Hong Kong are done so illegally. The problem for many of them is that they also deal drugs.

TravelMen
01-18-03, 20:12
Thanks for the info.

So is it normal for you to spend hours with her buying drinks and then at the end you find out she wants paying?

Is there an easy way to find out before. I don't want to meet a normal one and ask if she is a hooker.

Are these bars also busy in the week. I am staying in Causeway Bay.

Apart from Dusk til Dawn, can you suggest other bars/clubs where perhaps more normal single girls go.

Then if no luck there I can move on to the working ones.
What sort of time is good to get the best pros.

Also, has any one been here.
www.asiaxpat.com.hk/personals/personalview.asp?catid=2&page=3

There are 1 or 2 chinese girls just wanting a Western guy for a night.
Do you think these are just cunnung pros or genuine?

Thanks again

Intransit
01-19-03, 12:31
Travelmen,

There's a simple solution to your first question: don't. Buy a couple of rounds. If at that point you're not getting anywhere, esp. with your suggestion to leave and go back to your hotel room or apartment, move on.

Again, as I said in my post, it's not a question of asking, "So, are you a hooker?" It's not handled like that. You go home. If she brings it up before the act, fine. If she doesn't, fine. Then, in the morning or afterwards when she leaves, you ask her if she'd like taxi money. If she says no, you're home free. If not, fold up however much you are willing to pay and hand it to her, low bills on top.

Most places are busy every night, with weekends being busiest. But bear in mind that Dusk 'Til Dawn doesn't even reach quorum until 11 pm, with the discos being even later.

If you want to meet normal girls, go to Lan Kwai Fong. If you want to meet normal HK girls, forget it. To non-HKers, Hong Kong Chinese girls might as well be Saudi Arabian. They are among the least layable women in Asia in terms of getting them into the sack quickly.

Forget about personals. I answered one once and the girl who showed up weighed 40 lbs. more than her photo.

Uncle Goober
01-20-03, 08:06
Intransit> do you have any experiences at the original Popeye - someone has told me that it now is called something like Cockeye (sp??).

A couple of years ago, I spent a couple of days with a real little dynamo from there. She was insatiable. Large chest, very broad minded. Her name started with an M, but I can't remember it exactly. Apparently she was a bit of a star in the bar.

Can you or your wanchai warrior acquaintances - or any other board members - help me by jogging my poor old memory? I am visiting HK soon and want to "look her up", if she is still around.

Cheers.

TravelMen
01-20-03, 20:07
Many thanks Intransit.

I did get a photo from the personals and she looked great. But now I have second thoughts.
How do they expect you to go out with them if they have decieved you from day one with a false photo.

I thought may be thay were pros, who think that once you have gone to the trouble to meet up and spend on drinks all night you will then pay more for the night. Also more likely when you are drunk.
So you say forget ?

When you say normal girls go to LKF but are not HK, then who are they?
Where would you suggest in LKF? Any good list of bars and disco's would be great.
It just helps so much, knowing where, what time and day etc etc
I have read of Club ING, Joe Banannas, Strawberries and Carnegies.
I shall try Dusk though at the weekend.

PS. Funny you mention Saudi, I am working here now!!! It pays for the hookers though.

Papadum
01-20-03, 21:38
Intransit is right, even though this is a Hong Kong board, the discussions here about girls are non-normal Hong Kong girls. Don't expect to pick up a normal Hong Kong girls at a bar or whatever and go back to your hotel. It's very rare that you can have the luck. ( if someone here said they did, tell me, how do you know she's a Hongkie or Mainlander? By the same token, most Hongkie can't tell where exactly you are from).
A small percentage of the working girls in Mongkok are Hong Kong girls but they are either on drugs or triad gangs related. Those girls in LKF or hotel bars/dicso look like a hooker or try to look to entice you are mainland girls.... some of them might tell you that they are local but you might not be able to tell the difference - only Hong Kong huys can tell.

If you met a normal Hong Kong girls in LKF or other bars (not those in Wanchai Lockhart Road /Jaffe Road, NO Hong Kong girls would go there) and if she really like you, she might accept your invitation to dinner but not to your hotel room, no quicky, don't even think about it, prepare to buy them designer labels - remember this is Hong Kong. If you want to be their boyfriend, (full time or part time that doesn't matter) and you don't know what they like, I can get you a rundown of the most loved:
LV bags
Gucci/Channel/Burberry/Fendi handbags
Prada backpack (not surrent, evryone of them should have one already, but anything Prada still work)
Ferragamo shoes
Cartier watches

Some advises:
Don't buy fake/counterfeit - they will know and you are dead meat.
Don't buy last season's style, they will know and you don't look good, (because they don't look good).
They will love you if you bring the latest seasons' directly from Europe.
You would be king if you bring them to shop in Milan.
Last but not least, have taste, please.

Remember, Hong Kong is not China. It's a totally different ballgame pal. In China, affordable amount of legal tenders can make many many local girls "love you(or your money or your passport)" (except in Shanghai for certain Shanghai girls, most of the time it's not that affordable and even worse than in Hong Hong)
And remember, normal Hong Kong girls don't need your money and your passport.

Dick Johnson
01-21-03, 06:07
Papadum is right. I recommend that post be read at least twice. Hong Kong and China is a total different ballgame. And not exactly a ballgame for those without resources.

BJK
01-21-03, 12:03
Largely agree with the previous posts but think there is scope to screw a local girl if you want to put the effort in. Same as anywhere. In Hong Kong there is a small percentage of girls that prefer westerners. Most don't, they prefer a local man. However a small percentage in a population of 7.5 million people in a concentrated environment is plenty of available pussy. Still as the posts below say you will end up spending money or a lot of effort most likely both.

As far as this board is concerned it is about how to find the best pussy at the right price.
Let me give you some idea of how I see the market segmentation.

Local Hong Kong Hooker

Really doesn't exist for foreigners in the normal mongering places. Exceptions are the Karaoke nightclubs. Go with a local otherwise you probably won't be able to access the services. Generally what happens is hostesses are presented and sit for a period of about 10 minutes. They then go away and the mamasan asks if you want to continue or see another. If you continue then the normal practice is to play some drinking games usually involve undressing. You can do some groping or whatever the girl allows (and of course what you want to do in front of your friends). When its time to leave you can negotiate directly with the girl. Note that she might not want to go with you and is under no obligation to do so. Cost is high, say $HK3000 for long time. Girl is normally young, say 18 - 23. I have never tried this but Hongkie friends seem to like it and relate the same story above.
One other place you may find a local is in a sauna. Again usually over priced. I don't know of a FS sauna that has local girls. I go to a vege (no extras) sauna for massage. For this I highly recommend the Windsor near Fortress Hill. I found a couple of massage girls will do some extra work on the outside. Impossible to get inside and needs some charm to convince them to go with you as they are not regular workers, just girls likely to need a little extra cash. Trouble is some can lead you on and you spend extra needlessly on tips. Standard (i.e. compulsory) tip at Windsor is $100. If you ask the girl for outside extras no doubt she will ask you for additional tip for the massage. At this point get the financials worked out for the massage and later service. My advise is to offer only a small extra tip for the massage and make it clear the real money will come with the main job.
One point is the typical girl in this situation does not have much education and although born in Hong Kong can not speak much English. In the sauna and later in bed you can get by without a lot. On two occasions I had a certain freebee lined up. All I needed to do was call her up and make a date. Two times I did this and could not arrange a meeting due to lack of English (or my Cantonese). If you both have a lot of free time then it is not so hard as just need to arrange a place. Trying to explain my busy schedule to someone who worked changing shifts and who lived miles away in the Northern Territories proved impossible.
On walking through Mongkok with a person who could read Chinese it was pointed out on the price boards that had the various nationalities listed. I think a local girl was $100 more than a mainlander.

The not quite Hongkie

These have provided the best and the worst experiences for me in Hong Kong.
These girls are recent arrivals. They have somehow legally immigrated from the mainland and have a HK ID card. The ones I met had been in HK for 2-5 years. Find these in the bars in Wanchai, some also go to LKF. The girls are more sophisticated than the average mainlander but not to the extent of a girl born and educated in Hong Kong. Most of these girls are part timers they have a real job though most job seemed pretty low paid, thus the need for extra money. I had some real GFE from these girls. Good for LT. A small gift is appreciated and will be rewarded. Many of the best GFE girls will want you to be a regular customer. You probably want to avoid that, but be nice so they don't harden up for the next guy!
One or two girls in this category pretended to be nice sweet things but then gave minimal service but on the whole highly recommended. Price range is 1000-1500 LT asking price will be 1500-2500.

Mainlander

Organised Trade
Find these in Mongkok brothels. See the previous posts for details.
Freelancers
Bars in Wanchai. These are real pros. They have a short term visa and need to make money in the limited time available. Typically they only do short time. Be careful if you negotiate long time, they will often cut the time short but want the full amount. They try to make out they negotiated for short time even though you might have been saying long time all along.
Go with the flow here. If the girl only quotes a short term price then stick to this. Prices vary a lot, for good quality will be 800-1200 ST Sometimes you can get a better deal. One slutty looking girl who would normally not be my type took my fancy. I would rate her a 6.5-7 in looks. Better than that in bed. First time was $800. Thereafter I saw her about 4 times for $500 each. For that price I took her at 10pm when she first turned up at the bar. After f**king for a hour and a half or so this left her plenty of time for a second (or more) customer. Another girl was a pretty sophisticated girl who lived in Beijing, she claimed to have her own 150sqm apartment there. Might be true, she had a US passport and knew a thing or two about business. For me business with her was making the best of what would be idle time. She used to come to my hotel on Sunday afternoon. I gave her my spare key and she would go off and use the hotel sauna. Boy she used to love that. She would spend 2.5 to 3 hours in there. After that she used to come back to my room, give a great massage, blow and then f**k like crazy. Then it was back to the bathroom for intensive clean, make up and beauty treatments. Given the contra deal she only asked for $600. Normally she charges $1500-$2000

Mongolians

Generally good value for money. Bodies not as slim as the Chinese girls. Prices a little cheaper too.

South Americans

See a few about in Wan Chai from time to time. Don't know price or quality.

Thai

Mostly freelances. The longer term girls work in the girly bars on Lockhart Rd. Freelance on short term visa work the bars in Wan Chai
Expenses are high, time is short. Middle range price between Chinese and Filipino. I paid 800-1000 long time. Mostly good experience.
One girl was a real sweety. Had her three times in HK all together after going with her twice, she got really upset when the next time I had found another girl (freebee filipino), called me a butterfly.

Filipino
These mostly work in low paid work and need to supplement their income, some are just horny as they are away from home for a long time. Many have family at home, their grandparents look after their kids. Price varies from free, to $1000. For free you usually need to put a bit of effort in. Many times I have been with a sweet thing that will surely provide the good time but not before dancing away for hours and hours. Sometimes it is fun to do this but after a couple of Saturday nights where I had to keep dancing till 4.00am before getting her to go home. I got sick of that and if they did not go home at a reasonable hour I left to find a paid companion.
Of the Filipinos there are a number of categories that can be used as a guide to price/service
Work in girly bar - By all accounts good professional service but expensive $2500. After their shift they end up at Strawberies bar. Can be had for a reasonable price there but you have to go at 4-5am
Work as live in maid. - These girls only get Sunday/Late Saturday night off. Mostly free or low cost. Need to be treated with respect or you will be ignored. Bars are full of them on Sunday afternoon. On late Saturday night they will come out but they want to have fun dancing so you will stay up late. On Sunday go to the bars about 3pm. Chat one up and suggest dinner after the obligatory dance. Then yours for free but have to be back home by 11pm Good GFE.
Work as non live in maid. - Often work for expat. These girls need to supplement their income to pay for their rent. Can be bought sometimes for non cash alternatives, eg dinners, shopping etc. $500-1000. $1000 would be when you don't want to negotiate and probably did not discuss price before the deed. If you want long time then Saturday is a better bet as they have Sunday off.
Work in regular job - Similar to the girl above except seems more available as does not have to get up early to do maid duties during the week. Price range is the same.
Between Jobs - This type might have a valid visa but should be leaving the country as are not employed (in regular job) . Probably they have been sacked. Usually wanting to make more money and are more the regular pro type. Mostly short time is offered for $6-900
Short term visa - Hardened pro, better to go to Manila. Firstly they will try to get you to buy as many ladies drinks as possible and then they ask $1200+ short time. I don't recommend.

BTW,
A comment on legality of prositution.
As mentioned it is legal but living on prositution is illegal. That is one reason the Mongkok brothels do not have girls working inside. Once a punter comes a girl is called.
Solititing is also illegal. The sweeps of street girls in Sham Shui Po get the girls for this. Also sometimes a girl in entrapped if she works in a bar and she is caught offering her services. Punters activities are OK so don't worry.
In most countries in the world the ratio of the sexes in jail are 95% men to 5% women. In Hong Kong it is 60% women. Nearly all are prostitutes from the mainland. How can this be you say if prostitution is not illegal? Well most are actually convicted of visa violations. If they are working in HK as a prostitute then they are violating the terms of their Visa which prohibits working

BJK

HKferry
01-21-03, 14:35
Papadum,

you are a funny guy, but very correct about HK girls.

Honestly i don't know why anyone would want a HK girl. They demand too much for what they are worth, and the remotely hot ones are virtually untouchable.

I am half chinese and half caucasian, and am a pretty good looking guy(according to the women here) but i have been checked out by women here and I notice that if I am not wearing anything that could give the hint that i have money, women would turn away and not pay any attention. Its happend all to many times.

If you watch TV in HK the most beautiful women are not from HK, they are from China or Taiwan or from the states. Even in Guangzhou, the pretty ones are from small provinces, just looking for a job in a big city.

I begin to wonder why there are so many gay men in HK.

Dlite_me
01-22-03, 03:17
Hey papadum your advice about HK girls sounds eerily similar to girls in JAPAN,except japanese girls are worse when it comes to name brands...meaning they expect more from you. Come to Japan...you'll like it

How to tell the difference between local HK hookers and mainladers is pretty easy, IMHO:

I used to frequent the Mongkok area whenever I was in town.

Basically, you can tell by how much English...or engrish...the girl speaks. Most Hong Kongers speak a pretty good level of english, since it was a British colony. It's the new wave of immigrants from mainland china that can't speak a lick of engrish.

If the gal speaks a language other than cantonese...that's a pretty good sign she's a mainlander....assuming you understand cantonese first of all.

Also you can tell by body type in most cases, HK girls tend to be fashionably slimmer...while mainlanders tend to be bigger in certain parts of the body...say the boobs or the thighs.

Whenever in Mongkok...go for the mainlanders (IMHO). Admittingly, I've only tried the loca HK girl once....but she was totally out there....no real effort....

Most Mainlanders really......put alot of effort to please you...

BJK
01-22-03, 16:44
dlite_me

I think your advise on who is from the mainland is well based for the pros in Mongkok. None of the mainlanders can speak English.
However not speaking English across Hong Kong is very common particually amongst the lower socio economic groups. Many can't string two words together. Ever tried communicating with one of the minibus drivers for instance.
Conversly in the hunting areas for freelancers there are many HK ID holders that are recently from the mainland selling their services that speak a reasonable level of English. They are keen to learn as they know it is good for business. Hell, I taught a few of them, they gave plenty in return.
To me these girls are mainlanders if they have not been educated in HK.

Back to Hongkies...
Another class of potential target is the drinks promotion girl. They very often do some "extra" work after their shift.
I met some at the hotel bar where I stayed. I got their mobile number and arranged to meet at another bar on a later date after their shift. Out for a few drinks and put the proposition to them. I had a 50% success rate. I know other girls were available but did not try them out.
One very shady character who often drank in the bar gave me some tips and offers some girls to me. About $2000-$2500 for the night through him. This guy was bad news and the girls were scared of him so never took him up. Also the price lol!
There are some sure nice promotion girls around!


BJK

Papadum
01-23-03, 17:32
How to differentiate genuine Hong Kong Girl and China counterfeit? There are quite a few ways to check them out:

1. Hong Kong has 9 years compulsary free education in the past ten or so years, even those from low socio-economic group below 25 should be able to speak some broken English.

2. Even though some mainland girls in Hong Kong can speak reasonable conversational English (I doubt there are many of them though), they can't pronounce properly. Local girls can pronounce the right sound, only with Hong Kong accent, but that is different from bad pronounciation. Ask them to say "VCD" - local girls can say them as we do, some mgiht say "We" instead of V but that's minor. But mainland Chinese usunally can't pronounce correctly, they would say "Way Say Dee". I you don't believe, try them out anywhere in China (except those University educated in Shanghai - only Shanghaiese). Viva La "Way Say Dee"!

3. Temperament. Very different. Including gesture, eye movement, the way they smile/laugh. Only a very few mainlander can pass for it.

4. If you still can't tell and suspect, for curiosity or value for money sake. check out their HK ID card, only Hong Kong born can get a three asterisks mark printed below date-of-birth. And that's how police tell by looking at ID cards.

5. Better yet, entice her to bed and try your best to make them scream and shout, see if they scream in Cantonese or Mandarin - one would only scream in their native language in such circumstances - unless she did planned to fake all the way then you have to give them credit! - already worth it for the endeavor!

Papadum
01-23-03, 17:58
HKFerry:
you mentioned about some beautiful girls in Hong Kong are from Guangzhou.... I really have reservation on that. I worked in Guangzhou for 9 months two years ago and can't really find any beautful GZ locals. most of GZ local girls are shot and dark skin color, and mostly don't know how to dress and seldom makeup......

Intransit
01-23-03, 18:28
Papadum,

I think you're dead wrong about distinguishing HKers from mainlanders based on their English. I lived in HK for 2.5 years recently and the avg. person's level of English in HK is so bad that most can't communicate. Example: there's a used English-language bookstore called Flow, off the Mid-Levels Escalator, just below Hollywood Road. One of the girls who works there speaks NO English. AT AN ENGLISH LANGUAGE BOOKSTORE? Hiring staff in Hong Kong who speak English well is now one of the top challenges of international companies wishing to operate in Hong Kong. And BTW, the Mandarin of the average Hong Konger sucks also.

You're also assuming that a mainlander would scream orgasmically in Mandarin. Well, most people from Guangdong also speak Cantonese as their first language, so that's certainly not an identifying trait.

Overall, mainlanders are far better fucks, they're more available, and they're cheaper.

HKferry
01-24-03, 06:59
Originally posted by Papadum
HKFerry:
you mentioned about some beautiful girls in Hong Kong are from Guangzhou.... I really have reservation on that. I worked in Guangzhou for 9 months two years ago and can't really find any beautful GZ locals. most of GZ local girls are shot and dark skin color, and mostly don't know how to dress and seldom makeup......

No, im saying that many beautiful girls in guangzhou are from other parts of china. I know i find local GZ girls to be unattractive only a handful are good looking. I have met a few local girls that are attractive but they were models.

JohnTodd
01-25-03, 08:49
On January 25th I went to Monkok, got off the MTR at the Monkok Station. Immediately when I saw the street there were many home improvement stores.
I went to a place right near the exit, saw the sign $330, for 45 min, went upstairs, I was taken to a clean room, and the guy asked what kind of girl I was looking for, I said Chineese. Less then 5 min later a very pretty Chineese lady came, began by showering together, then a half hour massage with a lot of body licking, then BBJ and FS.

A couple hours later found another place, there were hundreds in the area, a similar experience, cost $360.Both ladies had very hairy pussy's, not used to that.
The pharmacies in the area sell Viagara, 100MG for $300. a 4 pack.
Thats less then $10/pill in US Funds.

Dick Johnson
01-25-03, 10:45
Papadum, I do not share intransit's viewpoint that you are 'deadwrong' as I find most Hong Kong girls capable of conversing in English.

HKferry
01-25-03, 17:36
Just out of curiosity, i have never taken viagra and i am not sure if i need to or not. What the advantanges? I dont have any impotence problems but is the something i might benefit from taking it before sex?

Intransit
01-25-03, 18:39
Well, think of it this way. If you're not quite as hard or stay quite as hard or recover quite as quickly as you did when you were younger, then Viagra solves that problem, if it is indeed effective for you (it doesn't work for everyone).

I use it occasionally as a confidence builder. Be aware of a few things: if you take any kind of nitro-based heart medication, Viagra WILL KILL YOU. That's not a joke. It has happened repeatedly.

Viagra (or any sildenafil citrate pill) should be taken 30-45 minutes before you want to commence sex. If you take it as you're slipping on a condom, forget it. It takes time, and if you have been drinking or eating a lot, it takes even more time.

You'll stay harder longer, and it will take you less time to get hard again after you cum. HOWEVER, many people who use Viagra find that they find it difficult to cum a second time, no matter how hard they are.

My experience is that Viagra is better than the knock-offs and generics, although on a price basis, the others are worth the price. Viagra takes longer to leave one's system, it seems, and so after fucking at night and falling asleep, there are still some good hard-ons to be had the following morning.

A couple of side effects: some men (including me) feel pressure behind their eyes and get bloodshot eyes. Also, you can usually feel it begin to kick in when your face gets hot. The girl(s) you are with my notice that you feel warm or that your face is flushed. Also, sometimes there's a build-up in the sinuses, so between the stuffy nose and the flushed face it may seem like you're sick. All those feelings subside as the drug works out of the system.

The best thing to do is to get some and try it, provided you have no overarching medical conditions that would prevent you from doing so (check the Pfizer Web site). Unless you're over 40 and actually experiencing some softness, take no more than 25 mg. The big pills are 100 mg, there is definitely no need, and avoid a "more is better" approach. Taking too much can lead to painful erections that don't subside. If you're hard continuously for more than four hours, seek medical attention, you can damage the tissues within your penis.

Papadum
01-25-03, 19:40
Dick Johnson: You know what I mean.... that's in general though.

Intransit: That might be a real case, as my POV is generalized. BUT, don't you know that nowadays in Hong Kong most manual labors/low income sales are mainlanders? Check out those sales girls at local chain such as Bossini et al (I picked up one of those two years ago at the Admiralty Bossini shop), they hired those grils in Shenzhen and Guangzhou. Check out those McDonald's cashiers, 7-Eleven's.... many of them are mainland immigrants.

Johnny Rocket
01-25-03, 23:18
To briefly echo other contributors, Wan Chai, Causeway Bay, and Tsim Sha Tsui are still active, but way too expensive if you're looking to buy sex. You can have a
good time there, and definitely pick up some free sex, but it will still set you back plenty of cash, like probably at least US$75 for a decent night out including some drinks and cover charges. Bars are not my scene, so I won't say more about them.

If you get caught by the police, don't be scared (easy for me to say who's never had the experience, right?).

You can't get in any kind of trouble for hiring a prostitute in Hong Kong, except that they may call your home and tell your wife/girlfriend. No problem
for you travellers, but for folks like me who live here, it's always in the back of your mind. Don't worry though: the percentage of brothels that get busted is VERY small.

If you're looking to get down to business, go to Mong Kok like the others said. But they made some errors: not all the brothels are on the second floor. Some of them can be reached by elevator. The district is packed with them, and there are a fair number of brothels in districts adjoining, such as Prince Edward and Yau Ma Tei. If you don't find one on the first
try, you will soon. There's a building right outside exit E1 of the Mong Kok MTR station on the right side, the entryway is next to the snack stand across from the trinket kiosk. It has three brothels in ONE building (8th, 9th, and
10th floors, 10th floor sometimes has an English-speaking attendant for those of you who haven't picked up any Cantonese). Anyway, look for red and/or gold signs with the number of the floor circled on them. When you get up there, the attendant will be watching TV and the security cameras (watching out for police), and he may give you a nod or smile and welcome you in, even
if you're a foreigner like me.

Nothing will be mentioned until you've been shown to your room.

In Mong Kok you can get Chinese from Hong Kong, Chinese from the mainland, Filipinas, Thais, and white chicks (mostly former Soviet union). Filipinas and Thais will run
you US$30-35. Chinese (local or mainland) will be more like US$50. White will be US$70-US$80. They also have Singaporeans, or so the price lists in the rooms say, but one has never actually been available when I've asked. Not sure what the difference is between
Singaporeans and other Chinese, anyway. Sometimes the "Hong Kong girls" are actually from the southern mainland. There is no physical difference, but there may be a difference in attitude you can pick up on). The mainland girls will often be from central or northern China, and there is some physical difference, but a lot of white guys can't tell.

Keep in mind that these places are fuck factories, and most of the women will not take it slow or really get into it like she likes you. I have had a couple lay with me afterwards or respond to my reqeusts (speaking Chinese helps), but a lot of them are very
businesslike. They think you're strange to want to help them remove their clothes or even if you're polite to them. They've told me that a lot of the men who visit (mostly Chinese) are rough with their breasts or physically abusive. So they may not know how to handle it if you are nice, but I am anyway. If niceness and cooperativeness count for you, choose a Filipina or Thai. Hong Kong Chinese are pretty bitchy,
although I have encountered exceptions. I have had some great experiences with some of the girls who are genuinely attentive and sweet. Also, many of the Filipinas and "Thais" speak English at least somewhat. Twice I have even given a Filipina my cell phone number and I've met her outside the brothel for free sex!

I put "Thais" in quotation marks because they are not always Thai. In general if you ask for a Thai you are really asking for a Malay, who may be from Thailand, but she may also be from Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam, etc.

Also, if you are fair-haired, you might get a bit of curiosity about your pubic/underarm hair. They don't get many Westerners in these brothels, but they will take your money without any racism or hassle. :) If you ask, you can also get 2 girls at once, or maybe even more, but I've never tried this.

The former Soviet union chicks are almost all married and are working behind their husbands' backs to support their desperately poor families. Never had a good experience with one of them.

You may get stuck with a brothel operator who speaks no English. Here are phonetic ways to ask for what you want in Cantonese:

HK local: "HERNG gong"
mainlander: "BUH goo"
Filipina: "fih lih BUN" or just "BUN"
Malay/Thai: "MAH lie"
white: "GWAI pa"
Singaporean: "SEN gah poe"

They can also be a tad dirty. I have seen some of the women lube themselves with hair gel. Another still had bits of tissue in her pubes when I took my first good look at her pussy. Another started her period while I was finishing up (though we can't really blame that on her, can we?). I don't think I would perform oral on a prostitute in Hong Kong, much as I love giving oral.

There are other districts where brothels are located, but I don't know why anyone would pass up Mong Kok to go to them, since they may be harder to find, although you may be able to save a few bucks. I don't have any
specific locations, but just in case you want to try, they are: Ngau Tau Kok, Kowloon Bay, Sham Shui Po, Jordan and North Point. Sham Shui Po is also known for
streetwalkers, but I haven't investigated this.

Now I would like to write about something I am still investigating. If anyone can help me out on this, a post in reply would be appreciated. I know that in
Hong Kong there are prostitutes from South Asia (India, etc). But I have been unsuccessful in finding
one. I do not know of any brothels that offer them, however, they do hang out in the ground floor of Chong King mansions, across the street from exit C (I think
it's C) of the Tsim Sha Tsui MTR station. This area has lots of Indians and Arabs. In this building there are advertised many "travellers' hostels" which are
actually hostels but double as love hotels, renting rooms by the hour if you want them that way. I went to
one thinking it was a brothel, but the propiretor told me I had to find my own girl before getting the room; they wouldn't provide one. While we were discussing the matter, several Indian women went in and out of rooms with men, so clearly this was a place where such action was to be found. I have hung out on the ground
floor a couple of times and approached a few women who
looked like likely candidates, but to no avail. Am I missing something? Well, if I have any success I'll send in a follow-up post.

Someone wrote about crossing the border into Shenzhen. I highly discourage this. It's cheap but it's also extremely dirty, rude, dangerous and just plain pitiful. Never tried to find a prostitute there, but I shudder to think. They will cheat you at every opportunity, or just pick your pocket. There's nothing there that can't be found in Hong Kong. However, if you insist, I have visa info. You can go to the visa office at the border checkpoint in Lo Wu (the only
place to cross, take the train there, it's easy if you look at a map). At this office you can get a visa in 5 minutes for US$13. It'll allow you to stay in Shenzhen
for 5 days, although once you get there, who's to stop you from travelling elsewhere if you want to?

Well that about wraps it up I think. I hope to be able to contribute more soon.

Good luck, happy hunting!

FurryFriend
01-26-03, 11:23
I am Chinese-American, born in Hong Kong, and visit Hong Kong every summer. Hong Kong women are usually shallow and ultra-materalistic -- probably the worse women to have as girlfriends / wives. And they usually have bad teeth and are, compared to those on the mainland, generally unattractive. This is why many Hong Kong men visit Shenzhen to find brides. Fortunately for them, there are no shortages of Shenzhen ladies wanting a Hong Kong husband.

nwtn20
01-26-03, 13:12
Hi there WSG ers,

Just wanted to know if anyone out there has been to Lotus Sauna in TST recently, any new bone girl recommendations for day shift or any change in prices.

I havent been since before christmas. Although I realize most of the mainland girls will properly go home for chinese new year. So I desperately want to get me some action before then.

thanks.

happy hunting..

HappyChap
01-26-03, 17:33
Just to share my experience with Viagra.

> Be careful with those coming fr HK & China. There are imitations going around. They probabaly contain some of the active ingredients (China has pretty good synthetic chemist who can make them) but typically they will not be properly purified. Hence there is risk of by products. Try to keep to the real stuff.

> Yes, you need to take it 30-45 mins before. 25 mg didnt work for me. Had to go to 50 mg and sometimes 100mg tablets.

> You know it is working when white light begin to look bluish to you.

> When you are mentally off sex, it subsides.

Dick Johnson
01-27-03, 02:52
I agree with furryfriend. HK girls, in my opinion, are THE most materialistic girls in Asia - DickJ.

johnny rocket, I agree with most of your post. However I feel one can just say Hong Kong, Malay, Filipina, China, Singapore girl etc and they'd understand. No need to memorize those phrases. And the Singapore girl thing to me is usually bullshit. Like you said, you've never been able to locate one. I was in Macau scouring the hk$1400/session suanas and they told me they have Korean, Russian, Singapore girls. However those 'Singapore' girls are not Singapore girls at all. They lied! I wonder what is the fuss with Singapore girls? Just because they are rare or non existant does not mean they are good. The truth is Singapore working girls are rare. It's just to entice horny men who want a first world country girl and not a second or third world like Vietnam or Thailand girl.

Teazian
01-28-03, 02:21
To Dick,
I live in Singapore since 2000. Singapore girls are also very materialistic. They only think about their professional career or find a way to become rich as fast as possible.
Singapore has the highest rate of woman infertility. They just don't f****.
Geylang (the red district in Singapore) has working girls mainly from Malaysia and Thailand, but not anyone from local.
My 2 cents

Pornstar 24:7
01-28-03, 12:27
Hey,

Just wondering if all the pharmacies sell Viagra? And where is the best places to party with some girls? I am coming to Hong Kong for Lunar New Year. And I am staying on Kimberely Road. Where are the best places and the best girls. As well what are the average prices for girls and is there anyway you could find a non working girl??

Pornstar

Papadum
01-28-03, 14:05
Normal Hongkie and Singkie girls are in a way similar, educated, financially independent and they don't need your money... unless lots of money.

HKferry
01-28-03, 14:42
Back in america you can turn womens head with a Mercedes CLK but here you need no less than a brand new Porsche or a 2nd hand Ferrari to get attention from the ladies. Actually the fitness gym is a great place to check out good looking women, well they are good looking but most of them look like they don't want to be bothered.

Intransit
01-29-03, 04:27
Pornstar,

Nice timing. You're doing the equivalent of showing up on Christmas day expecting to party. Even most of the Wan Chai clubs are closed during Chinese New Year.

There will be one thing in your favor: any expats stuck in town will have nothing to do, and probably be up for some free fun. Try Lan Kwai Fong, but drinks will cost you, US$5-8 for anything mixed (although Hardy's is good for cheaper stuff).

Pornstar 24:7
01-29-03, 04:54
Hey intransit,

Thanks for the info. Is there much around Kimberely Road? Will any pubs or dance clubs be open?? Or is everything more or less on lock down cause of the holidays?

Pornstar

Acer V
01-30-03, 06:11
Pornstar,
In my humble opinion, things won't be as bad as described by Intransit. I've experienced the Lunar New Year by staying home many times during my 15 yr residence in Hong Kong. There will be many hungry lasses out hunting around in Wanchai. Some of the shops close but generally it still hums.

Close to Kimberly Road you have all the brothels in Mongkok. They will still be operating although on some days/nights some might close. Also you have the many massage places in the Jordan area. Same story.

Look back to some of the past posts for commentary on Mongkok and Jordan.

For free stuff, there is LKF on Hong Kong island. In TST, you might try Ricks Cafe, the Hard Rock or Kangaroo Pub. Hong Kong is not the easiest place in the world to pick up free stuff.

BJK
01-30-03, 09:43
Pornstar,
I have allways been out of HK at CNY so I don't know what is open at that time.
However just off Kimberely Road, maybe 300 metres from Nathan Rd on the side furtherest away from the harbour there is a short lane. This lead to a street where there is a dozen or so bars and restuarants. This is a good place to go for a drink even when you don't want a ho. Only in one or two of the bars you will find Thai working girls. Some of the bars have live music. Let me know if you visit this place. I was with a girlfriend and we left the first bar as she didn't like the bar with pros and I did not know before taking her. We went a few doors down to a place with different atmostsphere
BJK

Johnny Rocket
01-30-03, 22:46
Originally posted by Dick Johnson
I agree with furryfriend. HK girls, in my opinion, are THE most materialistic girls in Asia - DickJ.


That is generally true; however there are very nice, non-materialistic, non-bitchy girls to be found. I have had a live-in HK girlfriend for 5 years and she's great. (And I am not rich by any stretch of the imagination, we live in a pretty typical HK apartment.)

I think it helps that I teach English in an adult education center. The students there come to learn and are generally the kinder, gentler, humbler type. I have picked up a more or less steady stream of free sex from my students. One of them was only back in HK for the summer and lived most of the year in Canada, what a perfect situation. She loved for me to pull out and come all over her pubes and clit... ahh those were the DAYS my friends.

More soon...

Dick Johnson
01-30-03, 23:39
HKferry, the stuff about cars is probabaly true.

Teazian, you are right. I think HK girls are a little worse than Singapore girls though. The thing you said about Singapore girls 'they just don't f%$k!' really cracks me up.

johnny rocket, may I ask how many years ago was that? In every country there are exceptions, but generally HK girls are the most materialistic girls in Asia.

Papadum
01-31-03, 08:33
Guys: Let's define what is "materialistic" in this context.....

I would assume materialistic, as regards to what we are refering to here, is that can buy almost anything. But you just can't win normal HK girls by throwing them with money (That's not difficult in China though) . They are "materialistic" in doing business, making friends, but not necessary purely for sex.

Hong Kong has been a place traditionally where people would look at what you wear to define who you are.... and that's not just for girls. It's the culture, or sub-culture.... HK is by itself materialistic. Looking at the consumption of XO, vintage wine, number of MB, Bimmer, Ferrari, Rolex, cell phones sold....etc. You would think Hong Kong has 60 million populations.

My suggestions for those who wants to have a HK gf are, be kind, be nice and be appropriately generous .....and it would be much easier if you are handsome too. And rememebr, HK girls are arrogant, they have to "convince" themself that they are not having sex with you for money.

And... cars are not a head-turning thing in Hong Kong, not even a new Porsche. Tall and handsomes are.

Dick Johnson
01-31-03, 12:41
No no.. I don't think anybody here is advocating being 'not nice' to HK girls, it's more like a cautionary statement for the innocent. But I think papadum's post is quite correct. Certainly we don't want to turn this into a bashing board like the American Women section.

I've had H K friends and have heard some girls talk about stuff that really turned me off.

HK (and Singapore) girls have much higher standards then say Thai, Filipino, mainland Chinese girls.

The truth is I've had Singaporean, Japanese, Taiwanese, Thai, Chinese etc girlfriends (all good girls, not working girls). My HK friends whom I partied with in USA, even they tend to go for girls from other countries(and we all have money). There are some really nice H K girls, for sure. I've known a couple myself.

Interestingly if you think about it H K's biggest stars even Jackie Chan married a Taiwanese girl and Chow Yun Fat married a Singapore girl. (Jet Li married a Chinese girl but he's from China).

Height is an advantage but I don't think HK girls are really all that obsessed, at least with Asians. After all all their idols are pretty short, from Aaron Kwok to Alan Tam to Nicholas Tse to Andy Lau to Jackie Chan, Jet Li. They like the good looking guys. Kinda applies in real life from what I see.

All right let's talk more about the action at 141, Mongkok etc

Johnny Rocket
02-02-03, 06:29
Dick Johnson: My non-materialistic girlfriend is my current girlfriend. I agree that she is most definitely one of the exceptions. Most HK girls are materialistic bitches.

HKFerry: I didn't quite understand what you were trying to say about me getting it on with my students? (BTW they are all over 18.)

DFWDude: Look at my really long post a bit farther down. I go through everything you need to know in Mong Kok. You can get FS and BJ from a HK, Filipina, Thai, or mainland girl for HK$350 max, probably more like HK$300 (the prices do fluctuate a little, and sometimes I get a sort of repeat customer discount so I forget exactly what others pay). The BB part is a bit harder. Some of the girls will do BB, some won't, and you won't be able to tell until the transaction is already begun. I think your odds are better if you ask for a Filipina, or possibly a Malay.

Take the train to Mong Kok. Get out exit E1. I can't remember exactly what street that is but I will check it out next time I go. Walk about 20 feet and to the right, next to a snack stand, is a narrow entryway to what looks like a residential building (when you go inside there are mailboxes and etc). There are 2 elevators. There are brothels on the 8th, 9th, and 10th floors. There are lots of brothels in buildings there, they shouldn't be too hard to find.

Johnny Rocket
02-03-03, 01:15
Originally posted by HKferry
I didnt mean anything disrespectful or anything, I guess i was trying to say that its pretty convenient for you to get action without the hassle of Mongkok brothels and TST hookers.

Yeah, but I still do, because I'm insatiable, and I don't always have a student available. :)

Thanks though, and good luck!

BTW my question from earlier still stands--anyone know where I can find an Indian/Paki working girl in Hong Kong, how much it would cost, etc.? Thanks!

Dlite_me
02-03-03, 02:49
ACEr_V

Sorry dude, I don't know anymore about Sapporo, but there are tow guys in the Tokyo area that might know...if you direct your question to "Sailing" or "J-boy"...

Getting on with your students (as long as she's legal and willing)...is one of the perks of teaching , the teaching pay sucks

Uncle Goober
02-03-03, 15:55
Any reports, stories, recommendations about the old Popeye Bar, now called Cockeye (?? sp ??).

Johnny Rocket
02-06-03, 08:02
originally posted by dlite_me
getting on with your students (as long as she's legal and willing)...is one of the perks of teaching , the teaching pay sucks

damn straight. but that's not my regular job, just my gig a couple of nights a week. and the perks, as acknowledged, are the best. there are a lot of mainlanders and a few koreans and japanese there too, so there's variety.

actually, i used to teach in a high school which was probably band 5, very shitty. some of my students made if fairly obvious to me that they were willing, and though some of them were over 18 (f.6 and 7), i just couldn't bring myself to do that. (however, i did hook up with a couple of them who were over 18 when the school year was over, and i had no qualms about it whatsoever. two of them were even willing to wear their school uniforms for me. ahhhhhhh. :) ) mind you, i am sure some of the countless mong kok brothel girls i've been with have been ****, but i have no way of verifying that even though i sometimes ask their age in cantonese. you know what they will all say...

Dick Johnson
02-06-03, 10:26
i would recommend you consider deleting that **** stuff and i personally have never seen it in hk. even though you just mention briefly. it is also against board rules.

by the way, what's the reason you are looking for indian/paki girls?

Dlite_me
02-07-03, 02:42
DJ,

when I say students, I`m referring to adult students..like teaching at NOVA, ECC, or colleges.

Looking For Lust
02-07-03, 09:07
I was at the ******.com, what do all those terms mean.
BM=Breat Milk ?
BJ=Blow Job
ML=????
Thks for your help

Jon1211
02-08-03, 08:31
BM=Body Massage
ML=Make Love

Jon

Johnny Rocket
02-10-03, 07:19
originally posted by dick johnson
i would recommend you consider deleting that **** stuff and i personally have never seen it in hk. even though you just mention briefly. it is also against board rules.

by the way, what's the reason you are looking for indian/paki girls?

normally i would agree with you, dick. but my post wasn't about looking for **** girls or encouraging other readers to patronize them. i was simply saying that, unfortunately, i'm willing to bet that ****d girls are sometimes accepted at or even forced to work in the mk brothels.

why am i looking for indian/paki girls? well, i dated (actually dated, not paid) an indian girl once, and i enjoyed it. though east asians are my favorite, south asians are a nice change of pace every now and then and it's been a long time. they often have bigger tits which is nice sometimes. their pussies are often nice and hairy, another nice change of pace, though this can sometimes be seen in the filipina girls at a mk brothel. and they have that nice deep olive skin.

so i repeat, any info concerning the availability of these women would be appreciated!

Intransit
02-10-03, 11:00
Pornstar,

Sorry that I was "in transit" after your last message was posted. If you're still in town and looking for info. let me know.



I wrote this bit to a member of another board regarding the Filipinas that work at the Wanchai clubs. Would be interested in anyone's opinion or information, although you can save explanations like "they're just greedy bitches."



I wrote this originally as a message to one of our other WSA members, FreqFlier, who is as stand-up a guy as they come. Consider yourself lucky if this is the guy who ends up sitting next to you at a club in Wanchai, he's a gentlemen and a downright generous host.

In any case, I'd appreciate anyone's thoughts on the following. I've removed names to protect the innocent. I wrote it while pondering what the Filipinas who work at the Wanchai bars do with the money they earn. Names have been deleted to protect the innocent.



The thing I wonder is, where does all this money go? I
mean, the money the girls make? Think of it this way:
you and I sign on for a six-month stint in, I don't
know, London or someplace. Our job is to take old
ladies to dinner, then take them to their hotel or
home and fuck them silly. Now, some of these ladies
are nice but about half are old and fat with saggy
tits. But at the end of that six months, after fucking
about 75 of these cows, we've made US$250,000. Given
that option? Yeah, maybe I'd spend half a year doing
it. Considering ****** (and ****** and ****** and...) made
more money in one night than they would have made in a
month in the Philippines, they should have gone home
with more money than they could have dreamed of.

Let's do the math. At Country Laser, girls get HK$7000
per month, plus one meal per day, plus board, usually
a bed shared with one or two other girls, plus
roundtrip airfare to HK and their visas. At 6 pp =
HK$1, that's 42,000pp per month, times six, that's
252,000 pesos, just for showing up. I think for each
$220 drink, they get $60. Let's say they get 30 drinks
per month, which is probably way low-ball. That's
HK$1800, which is another 10,800 pp per month, times
six, that's another 64,800 pp, giving us a total of
316,800 pp, without anyone even opening their legs.

Ok. I know that ****** was the busiest girl at Country
Laser (****** told me), and that in her first month she
went out 21 out of 30 nights. So that's the high end.
For this, we'll cut that in half and say that the
average girl goes out 10 nights per month (entirely
possible--that means every Friday and Saturday night,
plus any other two nights in the whole month). She
gets HK$1250 plus tips. For argument's sake, I'll add
no tips. So that's HK$12,500 per month, which means
75,000 pp per month, times six is 450,000 pesos. Plus
their pay and drinks gives them 766,800 pesos for six
months work, essentially TAX FREE.

I'll even give the girls HK$50 for snacks, smokes,
transportation, whatever. HK$50 X 180 = HK$9000,
equals 54,000 pesos. That still leaves them 712,800
pesos. That's still a zillion dollars. Let me put this
in perspective. I'm sure costs in the Manila/Angeles
area are somewhat higher, but on Malapascua (an island off the northern tip of Cebu, no hobbying but great scuba, e-mail me about it at intransit2003@yahoo.com), US$8000,
or 424,000 pp, would build you an entire beachfront
hotel. Even if a house cost the same in the Manila
area, you'd have enough money and more after six
months. Imagine doing four or five tours--what the
fuck are these girls doing with 3.5 million pesos?

I know most of the girls are either supporting their
kids or some other member(s) of the family, but still,
that's a ton of money. Any ideas on this?

Frankly, I don't blame any of the girls for doing it.
I have a friend in Beijing, the K**** girl you may see
mentioned in the China section. She is so smart and
runs her operation entirely like a business. She and I
have become good friends but she doesn't get involved
with her customers and she never gives it out for
free. She's also the fuck of the century. So to try to
pull oneself out of poverty via six months of
unpleasant but only moderately risky work, things
could be a lot worse. They could also be foolish and
work the bars in Angeles, where they wouldn't make
anywhere near as much money, and worse, would risk
being recognized by friends or family members.

Monkeyboi
02-12-03, 10:53
Are there any strip clubs in HK? Or anything close to it? I will be staying at the Hyatt regency hotel in TST. I want to visit a MP or sauna but i can't speak any type of Chinese whatsoever. Is there any place where i can get by with English only?

BJK
02-12-03, 14:00
monkeyboi

I don't know about strip clubs I don't think there is much of that in HK. In the Wan Chai clubs there may be some partial strip dancing but I don't think there is full nudity if that is your thing.

As far as sauna goes I recomend it if you have not been before. My preference is for HJ in these places so if you are looking for FS I don't know the best.
There is no problem with not speaking Chinese in these places. They will make sure they find someone who speaks English to ask you what you want.

The set up in these places is you go in. Someone will greet you at the door. They might not speak much English or might not want to here. They will lead you to the shower sauna area. Have a shower, sauna etc. After you get into a robe they will lead you to a lounge area with video screens etc. A waiter will offer you a drink which is usually free. At this point someone will come who will certainly speak English as ask you what you want.
Let him know your requirements and choose a girl. He will just have a list of numbers and may be able to describe each one.
Just be clear on how much tip is expected and if it is included in the figure quoted.
I highly recomend a read through this board to get an idea of prices at the different places as it is awkward to change your mind after you are undressed.

There are many sauna not so far where you are staying. I have heard that Jorden is the best place to head as there are reasonable quality reasonable price places. Check the board...

If you are going HK Island side then I recomend KLW sauna at Northpoint for top sauna experience. Good young girls and very nice sauna enviroment. I think it might cost over $2000 for FS there though. Two sessions of massage with HJ will be about $1000 Going to Macau is better value.

In TST I found happiness at Tokyo Steam Bath. There are older ladies to serve you there (mid thirties). Strickly HJ only and they are very good at that. They are older type though. About $500

Heading further down market are the quick massage places in Sheung Wan. Here you pay just $250 for a great massage and HJ. They will be older here, 40 ties or more. Good massage though. At the tram terminus look for barber poles and health beauty places on the 1st (one flight up) or 2nd floor. Not really recomended but I tried twice. It is not very private and if there is another customer there will only be a sheet hanging up dividing the room.

BJK

Johnny Rocket
02-13-03, 00:30
Originally posted by monkeyboi
Are there any strip clubs in HK? Or anything close to it? I will be staying at the Hyatt regency hotel in TST. I want to visit a MP or sauna but i can't speak any type of Chinese whatsoever. Is there any place where i can get by with English only?

Are you looking for FS? If so skip everything else and head for the Mong Kok brothels. There's lots of info on them posted here.

Have a good time!

Rayman
02-13-03, 08:27
Tried out Mongkok over the Chinese NY and was disappointed, quality was low and all a bit seedy.

Took a look at the free mag 'HK Magazine' which can be picked up free at the western pubs. At the ad section there are a range of services offered from Black, Asian, White. More expensive but more relaxed. They can travel to your hotel or can entertain.

swisscottg
02-13-03, 19:27
going to be in HK next week for a few days at one of the decent hotels. As a westerner, non Cantonese or Mandarin speaker I looking for advice on how to get FS in my hotel.

Anyone had good experiences or contacts they can share?

How easy/difficult is it to navigate the scene in mong kok? Anyone have suggestions where English is at least understood?

Genuis8
02-15-03, 04:08
Intransit,

I can say that I know the PI girls mentality pretty well. For that amount you quoted that they can earn, you are probably close to accurate. The problems with the girls are that they live on a day by day mentality, which is when they are flush that day, they have a tendency to splurge and pamper themselves, with the mental justification that "I deserve this because I am doing this work that I dont like".

Even club girls or massage girls in the PI have this mentality. So if you take that amount (PhP770,000 / 180 days) that averages to Php4,300/day or HK$700. And you know how "cheap" HK is. How far do you that goes? That's why only a very few can control and save the money to get themselves out of the rut.

Monkeyboi
02-15-03, 22:50
Originally posted by swisscottg
going to be in HK next week for a few days at one of the decent hotels. As a westerner, non Cantonese or Mandarin speaker I looking for advice on how to get FS in my hotel.

Anyone had good experiences or contacts they can share?

How easy/difficult is it to navigate the scene in mong kok? Anyone have suggestions where English is at least understood?

Hey swissscottg, I'm in the same shoe you're in. I can't help you, but you can help me. Please report on WSG after your trip.
Thanks, MB

Joe Banana
02-16-03, 11:53
The filipinas money goes back to their families or boy friends they see very little of it themselves. Some are very shy about charging you. I had one from Neptune last week who spun some story about being a little short for something she had to buy. Could I help her out. Of course I could and got a very good all nighter for HK$500, for all nighter read all day as we didn't get back to my hotel until 8am. I often don't pay at all as they want to be GF. Only problem I had was local Durex which are made smaller than at home, only 52mm v 54mm width but I find that makes a big difference. Always take a stock of your favourite condoms with you is the lesson there, and some lube.

Loafer
02-17-03, 12:33
Originally posted by swisscottg
going to be in HK next week for a few days at one of the decent hotels. As a westerner, non Cantonese or Mandarin speaker I looking for advice on how to get FS in my hotel.

Anyone had good experiences or contacts they can share?

How easy/difficult is it to navigate the scene in mong kok? Anyone have suggestions where English is at least understood?

On HK island it is relatively easy to pick up girls in the Wanchai bars, like Neptune II, and bring them back to your hotel. Rates I was quoted were between 1000 and 1500 for overnight. Most of the girls understand at least some English, especially the Thai and Fillipinas. In Kowloon, the street walkers in TST (around the Regal Hotel) that I saw are mostly Mainland Chinese with very little English. They might try to charge a lot of money for very short service. Mongkok is perhaps a better deal then.

Mongkok brothels and saunas: even without much English those places are normally foreigner friendly, as they are keen on your business. I never had any problems there. Places are easy to find, there are many of them. Some of the brothels have signboards in English at the front door, just walk around and you will find one. Mongkok can look a bit dingy to first-timers, just don't be put off by the outside appearance of these places. Brothels charge from 300 upwards, depending on the nationality of the girl. I normally go to a sauna, with some luck you can get a good massage there too. HJ and body massage costs around 700 to 800, FJ more.

There are also escort services advertising in the yellow pages, but time and again it is reported that they are very expensive and not worth the money. Never tried myself.

AussieGuy
02-18-03, 16:15
If you're looking at checking out the "sex scene" in Hong Kong and you don't want to make a trip to Macau, in terms of logistics and convenience where is the best place to get a hotel? Wan Chai, Kowloon or Tsim Sha Sui? Are there any hotels with nightclubs with free-lancer action that anyone knows about? Lastly, if I did decide to explore the "Macau option" How much does a "package" cost i.e. Hydrofoil fare there and back, taxi fare, room and girl? Is it cheaper to do it seperately? Do you need a visa on an Australian or British passport to get in to Macau?

Cheers,

Aussieguy.

Mikeleehk
02-18-03, 18:06
You don't need a Visa to go to Macua. But my advice to you is that if you are really looking for action, you will be much better off in Bangkok!

As a Hong Kong resident I can tell you that the girls in HK are like fast food service! The drop their skirt, hump like crazy, as you as it is done they leg off! I can find gorgous looking girls in BKK for whole night (2 fuck and 1 blowjob!) the same price for 30 minutes service here!

And you guys must be careful with hidden charges!

CC1
02-19-03, 07:16
Aussieguy,

The sex scene in HK is rampant...so virtually wherever you go it will be there, albeit not necessarily blatantly visible. It also depends on what your after. Many Aussies, Poms, Yanks etc. like to frequent the Wanchai girlie bars. You will definately find freelancers there. If you stay in Tsim Sha Tsui, there is heaps of street action, and you are close to the heart of HK red light district. Read some of the posts here on Mongkok. Freelancers abound in TST, but for quick no-frills excitement, you really can't beat the Mongkok brothels. For about AUD$80, you'll have yourself a 30 minute session with the works. Just tell the taxi driver to take you to Portland Street in Mongkok. Then, just walk around and look for signs advertising the venues. They are literally everywhere.

But for the time of your life... and I am assuming you are a sex starved Aussie, go treat yourself to a Macau fantasy. Read my post in the Macau section. My latest one is a good buy. Or, if you want to fling a little extra, Fuji or Darling 1 sauna are a good pick. You will NOT be disappointed. Logistically Macau is a nice short 1 hour ferry ride. Catch a little nap on the way there, and then have the time of your life. The package will cost around $1000-$1500 inclusive of everything, return ferry tickets, tax, session 45-90 minutes (depends), tips for the girl, food and drink inside the establishment. No VISA is required. Just bring your passport. The packages are good value. Freelancers on the street will do it for HKD$300.

AussieGuy
02-19-03, 08:53
CC1,
When you say that the Macau package is $1000- $1500 all inclusive, you do mean Hong Kong Dollars as opposed to Aussie Dollars don't you?

Cheers,
Aussieguy.

Daniel_You
02-19-03, 10:13
Mikeleehk,

the same price for 30 minutes service here? How much is it approx?

Daniel




Originally posted by Mikeleehk
You don't need a Visa to go to Macua. But my advice to you is that if you are really looking for action, you will be much better off in Bangkok!

As a Hong Kong resident I can tell you that the girls in HK are like fast food service! The drop their skirt, hump like crazy, as you as it is done they leg off! I can find gorgous looking girls in BKK for whole night (2 fuck and 1 blowjob!) the same price for 30 minutes service here!

And you guys must be careful with hidden charges!

Monkeyboi
02-19-03, 11:26
Originally posted by Sweden
I have a couple of questions about deceases.

Is that a big problem in the Wanchai bars?
Have you got anything from the girls that you don’t want to have?
How dangerous is it to get a blowjob without condom?

I am also surprised about the girls. I have been with a couple of Wanchai girls and it is always me who tell the girls that we must have a condom. Aren’t they afraid of deceases??

I think you mean disease. Everyone is afraid of STDs, especially AIDS. You can deal with all other STDs, but HIV/AIDS kills you. The CIA (Central Intellience Agency) estimate that 6 out 10,000 adults in HK have AIDS/HIV.

Here are the AIDS/HIV prevalence rates for some other countries:

Hong Kong: 6/10,000
S. Korea: 1/10,000
Japan: 2/10,000
Thailand: 215/10,000
Vietnam:24/10,000
USA: 61/10,000

All these numbers were based on 1999 statistics. The rate should still be almost the same. Education is key to getting these numbers down. I heard US rates have been declining (with the exception of the previous year). I expect poor countries like Thailand and Vietnam to slightly increase due to lack of sex education. Also the average 'Joe' with some cash on hand can fly over to Thailand and bang multiple ladies. It makes sense that Thailand's rate is so high.

It is a known fact that AIDS/HIV is easier transmited from male to female than it is from female to male.

I have a theory on AIDS/HIV transmission. Bigger penises will make it more likely for females to contract AIDS/HIV (assuming the male already has the virus) because bigger penises will more likely cause tears on the vaginas.

Also, dry vaginas will make it more likely for male and female to contract AIDS/HIV. This is because when a dry vagina get snuffed with a dry penis, too much friction will result; hence, the act of sex will more likely result in tears on both the penis and vagina. So for all you mongers out there, fuck the horny chicks. They're the wet ones.

Actionjun
02-19-03, 18:08
Has anyone had any success with www.******.com? Seem to have a lot of good possibilities in the TST area. Are the ladies available for outcall service to the hotels? Any details would be much appreciated.

CC1
02-21-03, 07:25
aussieguy...
yes i am talking HK dollars...

IlleagleFun
02-21-03, 11:02
Continuing my trip through the Pearl River Delta (see my other reports in the Shenzen and Zhuhai sections) from the world’s most under-sexed city per capita: Hangzhou.

As with Shenzen, arrived late and didn’t plan any action that night, just wanted to check the scene. Unlike Shenzen, my plans were not foiled as I walked from the ferry, through Temple Street, onto Mong Kok and back again (with a stop at the Hard Rock) and saw little available. What I did see was disheartening. They ALL knew what I was there for, I was giving them the look and they were not reciprocating. I MEAN NOTHING. No glances, no smiles, no “hellos.”

I know fellow WSGers have written that if you can’t get laid here, you can’t get laid anywhere. Well, I’ve been laid all over the place, but this was proving to be a tough nut to crack. Don’t know how much was due to CNY or that I'm quite tall and speak very little Chinese (Mandarin, not Cantonese), but there were enough girls there to interest me (though I’m quite picky) and not one presented me with an opportunity to discuss business. I’m just telling you the truth.

Went back to the Island, walked past many of the bars (spoken about here on the board) to my hotel and was propped by 3-4 SW’s. None of them lookers, so I declined.

Next night, pretty much the same problem.

Part of my problem was I was spending a lot of time being a tourist. I ‘d never been and man it’s a great place. Another is that I was looking for action in Kowloon, but my hotel was on the Island. It can be done, but I’d recommend choosing a side to go hunting and then get your hotel there. (WSGers: what do you think?)

Spent the night watching fireworks, it was already late and needed to get back to the island. Was having no luck til I was frustrated enough to just start speaking my broken Chinese. Many have written that there is NO need to know the language and I’m sure for the most part that’s true, but I gotta tell you, I get great use of the 10-20 words that I do know (in addition to being able to say numbers) from living here. These words were of great use to me not only in HK, but in Shenzen and Zhuhai. My question to the members: Do you speak any Chinese? Do any of you get by without knowing any Chinese? Those of you who can speak, even moderately, I feel, have no idea what it’s like.

Now that the girls were responding, that STILL wasn’t enough. They would discuss business, but would just laugh until I did a no-no according to board members. I got the pimps involved (sorry, but I was desperate). They’re there, watching their girls. I put my hands up in frustration. I don’t think we understood each other what so ever (verbally), but body language was all it took. That 2nd night I got a girl and her pimp to agree to 300 FS. I wasn’t too attracted to her and it was late, so I backed out.

As I returned to the Island, I was again propped, again they weren’t lookers, so again, I declined.

My last night, getting desperate… I first went and had a great meal at TST (Dan Ryan’s: familiar to those of you from the Windy city). Man was that a great meal. Ribs, chicken, a cold draft beer. After discarding the bones, it was time for me to go lay some bone…sorry, it’s corny, but I had to).

Again, same problem, again, same remedy. I saw this beautiful, lanky girl, with long hair and long legs. This was the cream of the crop (at least for me). My broken Chinese got things cooking, but she was just too afraid. She just wouldn’t say yes. She mentioned my height and showed no interest, until….I got her boss involved. After a quick talk it was as if we had been best buddies for a long time. Unbelievable!!! We agreed to 450 ( I know, it’s a lot for Mong Kok, but hold on).

She was still hesitant. In my broken Chinese I understood her to say I was her first Laowei. By the end, she was smiling and giggling and showed no signs of her foreigner-phobia. As I walked out to pay, the man said 350. I said excuse me? 350. OK, I’m not gonna argue a 100 HK$ rebate (especially when the price was hi to begin with). I paid the man and left with a big smile. She was so-so in bed, and it was rushed, but man she felt great.

Time to move on where I know the action is good: Zhuhai and Macau

P.S.: BTW, all this talk about HKers, mainlanders, Thais, etc., don’t know about other WSGers, but I just can’t tell the difference. Sometimes you can, but in general, no way. To me, if attractive, it doesn’t matter.
P.P.S: I regret not giving the Island and the bar scenes a try, but it’s more expensive and I just didn’t have the time to spend.

Acer V
02-22-03, 06:41
Illeaglefun,
Thanks for the report. It sounds like you had a tougher time than you should have had. Most punters walk up the stairs in one of the places in Mongkok and just go with the flow. No need to bargain on the streets.

Yes knowing the local lingo helps, as it does anywhere in the world. Imagine, if you will, a Chinese punter with no english skills goes to LA and tries to hustle a street walker. I doubt he'd be havin much fun!

The CNY is a bit different, some of the ladies get to go home but the keepers know that there is still demand for getting laid so they keep the "shelves well stocked." Probably the biggest difference is that many of the locals stay home with the families on some nights...so all the more selection for you and me!

To Action Junkie:

The .******.com girls are all in-call as far as I know. I have tried a few at various times in the past. Some are georgeous and some are pretty average. Hygiene is lousy with bed sheets and towels that obviously have been recycled without a launder. Many times you land a different bird than what is advertised. These are 1 room- 1 woman brothels which are legal in Hongkers. The MO is you go up to the place and if there's no sign on the door saying "busy" (in chinese of course) Then knock and the lady will answer. You do the deed and fork over the cash. In my opinion you can do better in the Mongkok brothels. Sometimes however the ladies in the 1-4-1 rooms are stunners!

Peter
02-22-03, 11:37
Acer & Illeagle

I was very dissapointed last time in Mong Kok. I turned away 10 girls before finally just saying yes to the 11th that came. I like thin girls with skinny legs, and apparently nothing like this is available anymore. after a very mediocre session, which I broke off early, as the girl was not my taste and I couldn't get her to rim me. I walked around Mong Kok for a while and have to say I did not see one single girl that was my taste. this has never been the case before. Is it possible that the economic downturn in HK is causing less high quality mainlanders to come. Maybe they can make nearly as much money at home selling themselves. at least the going rates in Mainland Hotels didn't seem to offer much of a discount. I was there after CNY, but is it so that there are no more thin girls available in Mong Kok?

Also, Acer has the right advice, go up one of the stairs and they will call up and get girls to come who you can accept or turn away.

Peter

Johnny Rocket
02-24-03, 10:46
Peter,

Can you speak Cantonese? If so, you may be able to get your skinny girl with skinny legs in one of the MK brothels. I don't know how particular they will let you get, but I have had success there with various requests that I consider to be at least as esoteric: particular cup sizes, a hairy girl, a girl with short hair, a girl with very long hair, tall girls, short girls, etc. Of course they may be willing to put in a bit of extra effort for me because I am a very loyal and frequent customer at the brothel I visit.

IllEagle: Is there a reason you didn't want to go to the MK brothels? Were they not open the days you were there? Some of them close on CNY, but not all of them. Could you not find any?

Acer V
02-24-03, 11:06
Peter,
I havent notice a decline in quality. Like JR, I am a regular at one of the brothels. There are a few others that I frequent from time to time when I am looking for a change of pace.

Not getting rimmed. Tis rare and unfortunate. It is SOP in the places I go. I suggest you try another brothel. Shanghai / Portland street between Dundas Street and Soy Street are my usual haunts. Also there are a ton of them up in Prince Edward Road area.

Hope this helps.

Johnny Rocket
02-24-03, 11:08
OK guys, I've got one for ya:

Can ******.com be viewed in English? I can speak Cantonese but I can't read it, and I don't know anyone who can that I would trust to help me in such a sensitive area...

If not, I can probably fumble my way through it, I just need to konw the procedure for making a date. Do you just go to the place and ring? Do you call and set up an appointment?

Thanks for the info everyone, and happy hookering!

hkexplorer
02-25-03, 03:26
Finally joined up after several months... this forum has been very informative...

So far: Lotus Sauna has been quite a rewarding place to visit, though a bit expensive... have not been ill-served yet. TSS also is quite nice.

Tried a Shanghai/Monk Kok place... mainland girl, cute enough, reasonable price (340 HKD)... the usual shower, bj in shower, on the bed, the whole she-bang...

Recently been interpreting the 141 sites.... more on that later... glad to become a member!

Wolf
02-25-03, 03:52
Man, have you tried the translating website at http://www.altavista.com/ ?
It surely can help. Translation are not perfect but they are quick and I am sure you'll find your way in what you need.
It works fine with Japanese and when I used it in Chinese I didn't foresee any major problem. You just have to be an open mind to sometimes have to understand that "systemic lips" means Blow Job !...
Enjoy

Wolf

Acer V
02-25-03, 07:27
The problem with the Altavista translator is that it will not translate the addresses and street names very well. This is some of the most important information on the ******.com web site.

Johnny, I was once in the same dilema as you. My answer - I learned to read the district and the street names in Chinese. I can now recognze TST, Mongkok, Portland Street, etc and can now find most address quite easily. It really didn't take me to long. Just a good bilingual map and a few hours of study.

In all of my visits to 1-4-1 I did not make an appointment, I just went up to the door and knocked. Happy hunting!

Johnny Rocket
02-25-03, 08:59
Originally posted by Acer_V
Johnny, I was once in the same dilema as you. My answer - I learned to read the district and the street names in Chinese. I can now recognze TST, Mongkok, Portland Street, etc and can now find most address quite easily. It really didn't take me to long. Just a good bilingual map and a few hours of study.

In all of my visits to 1-4-1 I did not make an appointment, I just went up to the door and knocked. Happy hunting!

I actually can read street signs, menus, and etc. My problem wasn't where so much as how. But now that I know how I think I'm in good shape. Thanks very much!

Do these girls provide their own condoms? Will they BBBJ? Would you consider DATY? (I never would in the MK brothels, are these girls reliably cleaner?

I have another question based purely in curiosity. How does ******.com make money? Do the girls pay a percentage? Also, do they set their own prices? Why are some girls more expensive than others? Do they think they are hotter?

Thanks for your help guys. Anything I can do to return the favor just let me know.

Johnny Rocket
02-25-03, 09:18
OOPS!

I posted something here but it turns out I had the wrong address for ******.com. Not to worry if anyone read what was previously here!

hkexplorer
02-25-03, 16:00
1/2 the fun is trying to interpret the addresses and then finding the actual places. I found a few buildings right by my bank, places I have passed numerous times in the past unknowingly (at least in terms of the activities going on behind closed doors)

Makes going to the bank a bit more titillating... time to cash another cheque

Macauman
02-27-03, 06:29
I love Venus 2! What a bunch of cuties! Question: What are the going rates for short time (one shot), and full time (all night) ?

Johnny Rocket
02-27-03, 09:37
Originally posted by hkexplorer
1/2 the fun is trying to interpret the addresses and then finding the actual places. I found a few buildings right by my bank, places I have passed numerous times in the past unknowingly (at least in terms of the activities going on behind closed doors)

Makes going to the bank a bit more titillating... time to cash another cheque

Hey, I'm always up for a little adventure. :)

Is the price listed on ******.com the price for full service? I notice some girls have several prices listed. Is tipping expected?

Also, I am still wondering how this site makes money?

Jock123
02-27-03, 10:21
Guys,

Have a look also at www.man169.com. It's generally easier to understand for those of us who cannot read Chinese.

There's also www.sextvb.com, but that's not so user- friendly.

hkexplorer
03-01-03, 08:31
The prices depend on the service... I looked up the characters for chute feow (most likely incorrect spelling, I know) that stand for shooting fire, the acronym for hj... and can find that on many ads. I assume BM still means body massage, which is a bit more... and then assume that the next and most expensive thing is full service. Some also have rates for overnight time.... again, the fun is in doing the research and then applying it first hand (no pun intended)...

Johnny Rocket
03-01-03, 10:08
Originally posted by hkexplorer
The prices depend on the service... I looked up the characters for chute feow (most likely incorrect spelling, I know) that stand for shooting fire, the acronym for hj... and can find that on many ads. I assume BM still means body massage, which is a bit more... and then assume that the next and most expensive thing is full service. Some also have rates for overnight time.... again, the fun is in doing the research and then applying it first hand (no pun intended)...

Thanks...

Just a couple more questions that can't be answered by looking at the site...

Are there "managers" present like at the MK brothels? And do the girls provide the condoms?

Have a great weekend everyone!

BJK
03-01-03, 14:14
johnny_rocket

at a 1-4-1 place there won't be any "manager", at least not visible. 1-4-1 or 1-lau-1 translates roughly to one girl in 1st floor flat It is a legal form of prostitution in HK. Prostitution is legal in HK but the rules are no solicitiing and it is illegal to live off the earnings of prostitution, so no pimping. 141 places are only allowed if there is a single worker at the place.

In comparision if you have been to Mongkok there are many illegal brothels with a "manager" but you will notice that there are no girls on the premisis so acts as a hotel. No doubt there are payoffs to stop raids also.

The 141 places if they operate within the rules are never raided as they are perfectly legal

The 141 girls will have a supply of condoms

bjk

Intransit
03-01-03, 18:30
BJK,

Of course there are managers present. Who do you think gets you the girls? You walk in, it's a Hong Kong Chinese guy, he'll greet you, ask you what you're looking for: Thai? Chinese? Russian? He'll show you to your room, you'll wait a little bit, then he'll show you two low-end girls. Feel free to reject them and ask for others. You also pay this guy when you're done, not the girl.

BJK
03-02-03, 03:00
intransit

i was talking about 141 places not mongkok brothels
they work differently

If it was not clear I have edited my post

bjk

dragon_heart
03-03-03, 09:49
Bros,

I'll be flying off to HK pretty soon, and this is my first trip there.
Can anyone kind enough enlighten me some place to have fun? I'll be staying in New World Renaissance Hotel in Kowloon. Is there any joint nearby that area?

Btw, what's the damage like? One of my friend told me that he damaged HK$1600+ for a girl and only 45 mins job. He got the number from newspaper and call upon his hotel for viewing. That's very expensive?

Thanks for the tips!

hkexplorer
03-03-03, 15:05
Was able to get in a bit of action this past weekend...1-4-1

HK mansion, 1 Yee Ho St (HK Mansion)... apt 21p... cute girl, even though the verbal "I love you" came within 30 seconds of my knock on the door.. damn, though, she looked good in that slinky black dress... nice shower, some scrub and rub, body massage, some rimming... a bit automatic on her part, but she really was good looking... i think she called herself "honey" and I almost believed her when she pointed at my erection and yelled "US number 1".. still hard not to burst out laughing...

Lee Garden Rd, #7, 4th floor (right in CWB)... three apartments, though only two listed in 141.... both Cyndy and Coco were busy but Pinky certainly was free and quite a handful... quite nice...

last call for the weekend was a bit disappointing (she looked better in the ads, or maybe my lower head was doing the thinking)... 475-481 Hennessey, 9th floor, apt D... still a good way to spend an hour of my time, once her hand on my penis took my mind off my fantasy (she was pretty enough, just not the stunner I had imagined...)

Still, though, lots of fish in the sea even if I limit myself to CWB... hopefully more investigations this upcoming week...

Intransit
03-03-03, 17:23
HKX,

How did you approach these lovely ladies? Do you call first and then walk up, or did you just knock on the door?

Intransit
03-03-03, 18:53
I'm in HK for two nights beginning tomorrow, and I'm up for some really top quality pussy, price is not really a problem. Wanchai no problem, am mobile. Any suggestions?

hkexplorer
03-04-03, 00:09
intransit.... If the ladies are busy often there is a note on the door of some kind, usually in characters. The 21 p gal has a metal "welcome" sign that is reversed when she is busy... the lee garden girls have "post-it-notes" with the time they are next open on the door...

I've tried calling but get machines with messages and I don't speak cantonese

As someone said earlier in the thread, just grab your balls in your hand (not literally) and go up and knock on the door.... perhaps there is a bit more of a sense of adventure than when you are at a sauna...

Johnny Rocket
03-04-03, 09:09
Originally posted by bjk
johnny_rocket

at a 1-4-1 place there won't be any "manager", at least not visible. 1-4-1 or 1-lau-1 translates roughly to one girl in 1st floor flat It is a legal form of prostitution in HK. Prostitution is legal in HK but the rules are no solicitiing and it is illegal to live off the earnings of prostitution, so no pimping. 141 places are only allowed if there is a single worker at the place.

In comparision if you have been to Mongkok there are many illegal brothels with a "manager" but you will notice that there are no girls on the premisis so acts as a hotel. No doubt there are payoffs to stop raids also.

The 141 places if they operate within the rules are never raided as they are perfectly legal

The 141 girls will have a supply of condoms

bjk

Thanks for the info dude. Much obliged.

I think these 1-4-1 places are still run by the triads, like the MK brothels. By checking out some of the pictures of the buildings I notice that there are often several girls in one building. Looks like an industrial-scale operation to me. Still, no complaints, it gets the job done. Being able to see the girls first, and seeing that they are cute, is worth the slightly increased expense.

Keep on keepin' on!

Acer V
03-04-03, 13:02
Hey HKexporer,
Good report. Seems you and I have similar experiences. A whole lot a 'hit and miss' in the 1-4-1 places. Still, I agree, it can be fun.

Keep up the reports!

Johnny Rocket
03-05-03, 09:20
Originally posted by Acer_V
Hey HKexporer,
Good report. Seems you and I have similar experiences. A whole lot a 'hit and miss' in the 1-4-1 places. Still, I agree, it can be fun.

Keep up the reports!

What do you mean by hit and miss?

Lucky888
03-05-03, 10:58
HKX,

What was the cost of your various visits to the 141 places you noted. (CWB =causewaybay, I assume?)

Many thanks for the detailed reports. Keep up the good work.

hkexplorer
03-06-03, 11:12
Most were in the 350 - 600 HKD dollar range, depending on location, exact services, etx. It looks like things are a bit less expensive in TST and Mong Kok for the 141's ... also, you get what you paid for (older vs younger, prettier vs not that bad), etc... but usually all fairly "professional" at what they do....

hkexplorer
03-07-03, 15:08
I got a little lunchtime action in this week one day... went to the Fuji building, 381-383 Lockhart... the 21st and 22nd floor come highly recommended by the 1-4-1 website. Cookie, the sexy Korean on the 22nd floor, was not there, and the music from Vivian's room is said to be signal that she is busy... she did not answer the ring... but Alda (?) on the 21st floor was pretty eager, with her door open virtually when I stepped off the lift... fairly spartan decor, no frills... a bit of a wham/bam thank you sir (not ma'am) since it was lunchtime and it is time to make hay when the sun shone... two people buzzed when we were doing the necessary positions... in a way a bit of a turnoff, yet also a bit of heightened excitement that certainly took the mundane-ness of lunchtime up a notch or two... cute enough, good enough english, 400 HKD not too bad of a price...

on "icered" (www.icered.com, the HK list, for play/nightime" Cookie is apparently a highly sought-after young woman worth every dollar of the 600 HKD fee...may have to check this lady out this weekend....

Good hunting over the weekend....

Batman
03-08-03, 01:20
FIRST TIMER NEEDS INFO.
I have been to Hong Kong before but never Shenzhen

I am Trying to get from the Hong Kong Airport to Shenzhen and would like to know the cheapest easiest way to do that. I also
need to know if I need to get a VISA to visit Shenzhen and if I can get the visa in Hong Kong and how long it takes? Where can I find info on the ferry and train system?

I have looked at the Chinese Embassy web site and it does not give any info on visiting Shenzhen or the visa required.

I am looking for some info on Hotels in Shenzhen. I would like to know if anyone can tell me if the Dragon Hotel (In Shenzhen)near the train station is OK. Also if they could recomend any other $40 or less hotels nearer the action (the lovely ladies) or is the Dragon close enough.

Lucky888
03-08-03, 01:28
Originally posted by hkexplorer

....
on "icered" (www.icered.com, the HK list, for play/nightime" Cookie is apparently a highly sought-after young woman worth every dollar of the 600 HKD fee...may have to check this lady out this weekend....

Good hunting over the weekend.... Hey HKX,
I checked out Icered. A few good threads, but lots of non-hunted related BS. I've posted there to try to get the lads to post their reports here. WSG is better organized and nicely focused on our hobbly, so let's try to convert more of those guys over to all the various location-specific forums here!

Crazy Guide
03-09-03, 13:19
Hi Folks,

I dicovered a new FREE chatline here in Hong Kong that could be good for someone who can speak a little Chinese. They have an English section but to date there are few English speaking posting available.

You can even open a voice mail box and leave messages for the ladies. As of now, it is all free so you may want to try and chat up the few ladies avilable there for an eventual rendezvous.

The number is (852) 3110-2111

Good luck.

CG

Justatip
03-09-03, 14:40
Hi Batman (re: Shenzen)

Visiting Shenzen is quite easy but you need to do the following:

1. Get a Chinese VISA
- two good places to get a VISA are 1. Japan Travel Service (cheapest) in Granville rd or 2. China Travel (many locations in HK, one in Peking rd and another at Kowloon railway station that I know of) a little dearer but they do the job including passport photos on the spot and hotel bookings.

2. Get to Kowloon station (Kowloon Tong) and take a train which leaves very frequently (every 15 min) to Lo Wu. Cost about HK$33. When in Lo Wu you walk over the border to Shenzen through customs and immigration. Easy! You can get to Kowloon station from the airport by train although it's not "cheap" a cheaper alternative is bus no. A21 (I think)

- another alternative would be to go by bus from the airport directly to Shenzen, if you already have a Chinese VISA but I assume you dont have a VISA and so that usually takes a day or two in Hong Kong

I stayed in a hotel in Shenzen close to the station but can't remember the name. It was around US$40. There were many barber shops offering massages and lots of girls soliciting on the street in front of the Hotel - Dragon? could've been. The hotel was fine for the price.

Good hunting.

Warriorxxx
03-09-03, 19:39
Hello all people here. I hope you guy can provide some info here instead from Guangzhou thread.
I will travel to Guanzhou next Month. My first time to GZ. Can you provide info:

- The best way to get there from Macau?

- Where to stay during Canton fair and guest friendly place?

- where to look for actions etc..as well as place to eat?

Thanks.

Johnny Rocket
03-10-03, 02:50
Batman and Justatip:

Many nationalities, including American and British, can get their Chinese visa in 10 minutes at Lo Wu. Just find your way to the office (I forget exactly where it is but it's in Lo Wu Station) and ask for a visa. You can get one that lasts 5 days and if I remember correctly it's HK$100. You just have to fill in a form that says what your job is and what you plan to do in China. I hope it need not be said that you should not indicate your real intention for going.

I had 1-4-1 girl #58 in Prince Edward, and she was nice. Decent technique, smooth body, face better than ok but not quite great. The cross hanging around her neck really did it for me though. I love banging girls who are supposed to be "pure" and the cross-wearers fit the bill!

I also happened to be visiting a friend out in Yuen Long and so popped in to see #314. She was not bad, but I probably wouldn't make a trip out to Yuen Long just to see her, and next time I'm in Yuen Long I'd try some of the others listed for that district before I'd go back to her.

Take care all!

Dorasan
03-10-03, 20:24
Originally posted by Acer_V
The problem with the Altavista translator is that it will not translate the addresses and street names very well. This is some of the most important information on the ******.com web site.

Johnny, I was once in the same dilemma as you. My answer - I learned to read the district and the street names in Chinese. I can now recognize TST, Mongkok, Portland Street, etc and can now find most address quite easily. It really didn't take me to long. Just a good bilingual map and a few hours of study.

In all of my visits to 1-4-1 I did not make an appointment, I just went up to the door and knocked. Happy hunting! I'm bi, lingual that is. I offer to translate for anybody who is interested. But I wonder if that's requried. If you print the chinese address, the taxi driver will get you there - or just print the whole ad, I doubt if any taxi driver in HK will frown on that. Some websites even have the picture of the building entrance.

I want to know some more before next time I'm there. I guess they are more advanced than London, where there they inherited the one girl one flat system. In London these 'flat girls' don't put themselves on the net. In Hong Kong they are everywhere, most of the 141 girls are new immigrants. Even they know how to find their way into the net.

They are tolerated by law enforcement, but that's only acadamic. Nobody seems to have time and energy to deal with the brothels in many other forms. These girls are difficult to get rid of the triads. In HK where there are many organized people, someone will come up and ask for trouble. Since the police are not that keen on helping, and calling them is too little too late, it's hard not to find someone to protect you.

Forget to ask - in the service list they provide, I saw BJ, some other that's not American nor English, I wonder what they meant. It looks like that some girls don't go all they way. But I doubt that very much - it would be hard to survive with so many competition. Or does it mean that the service list are all specials on top of the regular stuff?

Dick Johnson
03-13-03, 02:45
Coupla of females from a U.S. vegetarian group were handing out fliers in busy areas in Singapore dressed in Bikinis. They are on their way to Hong Kong right now.

hkexplorer
03-13-03, 13:09
Just finishing up the current 141 binge since the old lady is due back in town tomorrow.... stopped by and saw Pinky at 7 Lee Gardens Rd, apt 4E... nice repeat performance, great bm, really got me going.... worked a little on english words since she is wanting to improve herself.... and went at it for a 2nd time... sweet kid, cute, great body, nice sense of humor... 580 HKD....

good hunting, lads, until the next out of town business trip....

Dlite_me
03-13-03, 16:48
Anybody in HK soon...becareful

*Alert over Hong Kong 'super-flu'*
<http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/2/hi/health/2846243.stm>

A global warning is issued about a virulent strain of flu and pneumonia
sweeping hospitals in Hong Kong and Hanoi.

Acer V
03-17-03, 04:12
Originally posted by dorasan

Forget to ask - in the service list they provide, I saw BJ, some other that's not American nor English, I wonder what they meant. It looks like that some girls don't go all they way. But I doubt that very much - it would be hard to survive with so many competition. Or does it mean that the service list are all specials on top of the regular stuff? [/i]

Dorasan,
The other service thats not American or English. Are you referring to "poison dragon" ? This is slang for rimming.

Dorasan
03-17-03, 05:05
Originally posted by Acer_V
Dorasan,
Are you referring to "poison dragon" ? This is slang for rimming. Don't even remember the acronyms, but not American nor British in origin. I'll consult if I come across them again. My real concern is that is it possible that some girls don't provide full service at all? As in say LA?

Dick Johnson
03-17-03, 10:27
I posted some info in the Guanzhou section. It seems that many of the people who got the flu were travelers, often stopping by HK. Or they work in the hospital who treated a patient with the flu.

Dorasan
03-18-03, 21:52
Sweden, I thought sex education in North/Western Europe is much better than the rest of the world?

Safe sex is the only prevention. Though the risk of BBBJ etc depends on who you ask. Search the web for answers such as Web MD. In the East it helps to have a hepatitis shot, the STD type. I asked for it once but my doctor gave me the non-STD type, as good as a flu shot. Otherwise, antiseptic mouth wash and skin wash right after may help a little bit. Make sure skin is intact inside mouth and on your pennis etc.

If you get anything, you have no choice but to go to a doctor. In any country, there must be some STD clinics where no question is asked.

The health care system in HK reaches perfection a couple of years ago, same as those in the golden ages of Western Europe. Thats the result of non-stop growing for decades. And that there were enough doctors, since they don't find going abroad or private practice profitable anymore. Therefore the doctors in public hospitals are rather good and do not behave like god. People abroad go there for some hi-tech surgery. The seniors receive expensive surgery same as those in USA, except you don't need high cost medical cover. Fairly cheap for everyone including immigrants, and the hospital waiting list is shorter than UK. Now they have to cut back, but enjoy while it last.

Singapore is slightly not as good, but you will be fined if you don't eat all your food you take into your plate in a buffet restaurant. Therefore in the small district where prostitution is legalized, the girls are checked regularly. No comparison to TJ in Mexico where only in theory the girls are checked.

Acer V
03-21-03, 04:28
blnknamecruiser

Ma On Shan... I don't beleive there is much out that way. There might be some 1-4-1 action. I can't advise you there except to look on the websites previously listed in this thread.

Kings Road... There are a number of saunas where you can get FS at. The one I once frequented is Carnival or Ka Lai Wa. It's a block east of the Fortress Hill MTR station. Not all the ladies will offer FS but most will if you sneak $500 into the room inside your mobile phone or just take your wallet with you. You can get similar action at the King Sauna and NP City Sauna. Both are a few blocks from Carnival.

Good hunting!

BlnkNameCruiser
03-21-03, 10:13
Acer_V
Thanks I will check it out. I am not sure what block those are in relation to me (700-800 block) but I will take MTR to Fortress Hill.

HEY ALL!! Are you using 141 to try to find girls? I found a chinese character translater web site. You can paste in the directions and other info and get it in english. It is far from perfect but better than just the pics they offer.

The url is:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr

I hope this helps...
blanknamecruiser

Jazman
03-21-03, 16:30
blnknamecruiser


Thanks for the lead on the translation
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr

however after usinmg the translation the street address never comes out correct.

how doesone figure out the street name

many clues but not enough info from the pictures

what do u suggest

Jazman
03-21-03, 16:30
blnknamecruiser


Thanks for the lead on the translation
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr

however after usinmg the translation the street address never comes out correct.

how doesone figure out the street name

many clues but not enough info from the pictures

what do u suggest

Jazman
03-21-03, 16:30
blnknamecruiser


Thanks for the lead on the translation
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr

however after usinmg the translation the street address never comes out correct.

how doesone figure out the street name

many clues but not enough info from the pictures

what do u suggest

Dorasan
03-22-03, 02:09
Originally posted by jazman
blnknamecruiser,

However, after using the translation the street address never comes out correct.

How doesone figure out the street name?

Many clues but not enough info from the pictures.

What do you suggest?As with any translation between Chinese and any other language, the result is only approximate. Hong Kong street names made it worse because some just don't translate well. There's no standard in the street names at all. For example, King's Road translate to about the same thing in the Chinese street name. But King's Park translates to something totally different, because the sound is approximated rather than the meaning. But the translated sound somethings mean nothing, sometimes mean something totally different from the English name. So unless your translator is aware of HK street names, it's useless most of the time.

Acer V
03-22-03, 06:01
Jazman,
Like I mentioned in an earlier post, get a bilingual map and start to figure it out by reading the chinese characters. After some two hours or so, I could recognize Causeway Bay, Lockhart Rd, Mongkok, Portland St ... Once you learn a few it gets easier and easier.

Good Luck.

Dlite_me
03-22-03, 07:33
jazman,

get this map "Hong Kong City of Life" You can get it at a travel agent..or when you get to HK pick this up. It's bilingual..

90% percent of the streets on the map have english and the chinese characters.

Other than that good luck and have fun...

Hey ACER_V how was Sapporo??

Play1k
03-22-03, 14:22
Hi, all,

You can printscreen and post the pic of the word in forum, so I can translate it for you.

For hk,

Wonder how about your feeling for the service ad on a free xpat magazine call " hk magazine "?
I ever called the phone , the gal's quote is 1200 - 3000 / 1 or 2 hrs...
is it too crazy rate ?

But said they are from west/east Europe , South American or Japan, Korea.

Lucky888
03-22-03, 16:52
The best translator I've found yet:

http://standard.beta.amikai.com/amitext/indexUTF8.jsp

It gets the 1-4-1 addresses correctly enough that you can easily figure out the street and other details (never mind the "betrothed edfice" and other such bits it always translates...) Need to pick Traditional chinese for most translations from 1-4-1

Acer V
03-24-03, 09:27
dlite_me,
The scene in Sapporo was a bust for me. Did not have much time and the few places I tried were no-go for gaijin. I did see some beauties. With more time and a little familiarity, it looks to be a fun place to hang out. I had neither so left with nothing to report. Maybe next time.

Lucky888
03-24-03, 20:41
My 1-4-1 report

So I was in HK and dead tired (too much work and jet lag) but decided I had to try out a 1-4-1 experience on Sunday afternoon.

I chose MayMay in TST...on Nathan Rd 83-97, Block B, 6th floor, B2, the entrance of which is between the Hyatt and the Watsons.

I go up the elevator and in the corridor it's looks pretty dumpy....okay, real dumpy in fact. However, after I ring the bell, a guy greets me and inside it's quite nice, if basic foyer/hallway for waiting. Contrary to prior reports here about other 1-4-1 places, this cluster of 3 or 4 rooms has a "manager" kind of guy. Actually, I think he's there because it's more like 2-4-1 or something, so he keeps the girls and rooms in rotation and keeps an eye out for trouble. When it's your turn, you pay the man and then go into the room. (side note, the same guy is part of the outfit on the 2nd and 7th floors of the Fook Kiu bldg [great name, huh] on Cameron Rd, he said)

MayMay is new--she had been there for only 4 days so far, and listed as new on the 1-4-1 website. She's also popular...I had to wait 20 minutes, and during the first 10 minutes I waited, 2 more guys showed up wanting her; they were turned away. I chose MayMay because she was new, has D's, and those glasses in her photos screamed "naughty teacher." In person, she's very much like the photos would lead you to believe. I'd say she's a strong 7 or near 8. If she were athletic (firmer in the butt) she's be an 8.5 or 9. Rack is real, and soft. Bush is nicely trimmed. Skin quality (important for me, and not just face) is good, way above average for a mainlander. Glasses were great...I like an intelligent looking girl. MayMay does speak a little bit of English.

The key thing about MayMay is that she's a lot of fun. Very playful and aims to please. Not rushed at all. In fact, she never ever tried to turn on the TV in the room. Outside of the act itself, she's a 10 for service/performance. I say "outside of the act" because I was dead tired and not at all up to my usual performance, so I don't feel it fair to judge her performance, considering mine. Overall, a very good GFE for a one hour 1-4-1 setup, I think.

Okay, back to the setup (for all you soon-to-first timers like myself): so I waited 20 mins. or so, then paid the guy, then go into a 'fresh' room with MayMay (different than the one she came out of). Room is very clean, a bit spartan (no posters, porn or otherwise, like you see on the walls in some of the 1-4-1 website pictures), but agreeable enough. We embrace, she slowly undresses me, and I do the same to her. A brief tumble and touching on the bed, then into the shower. Sudsy, fun shower...MayMay isn't concerned about getting her hair a little wet and she doesn't wear much if any makeup, so she's unpretentious and fun. Lots of laughing and giggling the whole session. After soaping each other up and rising off, she heads down to start a BBBJ (still in the shower yet). She does that for a while....till I think better of it, health-wise. Then we play some more in the shower and get out and dry off.

Then it's into the bed for some making out, kissing (her kissing me all over). I turn over for a touch of those big D's via BM, and she quickly moves down and starts rimming and touching and teasing...very niiiiiiiiice. More making out and my hands all over her treasure box...which was nice and wet by this point. I don't think she would have objected at all to DATY, but I won't go there on a girl working 10-15 hours a day.

Then the hat goes on the general (we used my name brand hats I brought instead of her chinese-i-couldn't-read-the-brand). Then I have her start some CBJ, but quickly decide she doesn't like that with the hat on and may not have the skill I'd need to really enjoy it. Then it's onto a few different positions. Here's where it was a little difficult....you see, MayMay was a moanin', and it wasn't in that good way....she couldn't hide the discomfort on her face, and that really detracted from it. We slowed down and I tried to get her to quiet down without destroying the mood, but was only somewhat successful. Anyway, worked it deeper over time and things started to quiet down a bit, then back loud for a few pleasurble sounds, up to a nice finish.

We lay on the bed for a while afterward....and she carried on a like a real GFE, chatting, caressing, and kissing my neck and body, sucking fingers...she's quite oral, looking back on it. Then back to the shower to clean up, dress, and say bye.

Overall, a good experience (remember, I wasn't a raving mad horny guy...just had to have the experience before I left HK) and I'd recommend her, especially for someone looking to enjoy the whole experience in addition to shooting a load or two.

HKD450 for an hour. Fantastic, in my mind (never been to Mongkok, though). Will try 1-4-1 again. I decided that there a number of things I like about 1-4-1: choose a girl from photos, no price haggling, a touch of suspense of going up the door to see if "what you saw is what you're gonna get" and the thrill of finding a fun-loving playmate like MayMay. Oh, and did I mention it's incredibly convenient!?

Oh, one other thought. I'm really turned off by girls who smell like smoke (esp. their hair...the clothes come off, but not the hair). This is a real problem with KTV girls in China. To avoid this, next time I might try to go see my chosen 1-4-1 girl as close to her 'starting/opening' time as possible....9 or 9:30am in MayMay's case.

Many thanks to Ace, HKX, and others who motivated me to give it a try. Warning, though, I think it could be habit forming, especially if you find a GFE type like MayMay.

Dorasan
03-25-03, 02:39
There it is, an example about street name translation. TST is a sound translation, which sounds similar to the chinese name, which means something like a sandy peninsular. Nathan road is just the opposite. It's the name of a Briton, and the chinese name is an approximation of the sound. If you don't have a bilingual map, forget about any general language translators.

Ex-Cop
03-25-03, 02:46
I was looking at the 141 site because I will be in HK next week and I see some abbreviations that I am unfamilar with.
BM, BJ, ML, Dup. I am assuming that BJ is blow job but the others?

Thanks

Superforce99
03-25-03, 17:04
Great info on 141 site, thanks to everyone here. I was wondering if there are other sites like 141? It seems like the best organized and the most popular, maybe even funded by the HK pimps?
Thanks

Johnny

Jazman
03-25-03, 18:26
great info on 1-41- does anyone know if the girls on 141 have dislikes to oral sex.

Acer V
03-26-03, 04:56
Lucky,
Excellent descriptive report! Not to pour cold water on you but in my 10 odd 1-4-1 experiences less than half have turned out as GFE as yours have. Come to think of it most of those were cases where the girl was new to the business, similar to your experience. I guess most of the ladies get a little exhausted and disinterested as their new life in Hong Kong wears on.

You should try Mongkok also. I find it as convenient and there are many gems waiting to be polished there too.

Lucky888
03-26-03, 05:22
Originally posted by dorasan
There it is, an example about street name translation. TST is a sound translation, which sounds similar to the chinese name, which means something like a sandy peninsular. Nathan road is just the opposite. It's the name of a Briton, and the chinese name is an approximation of the sound. If you don't have a bilingual map, forget about any general language translators.

Dorasan, it's not quite that bad. While I only shopped the TST (Tsim Sha Tsui) section of 1-4-1 last weekend, I found just about all the relevant street names could be translated by Amikai (link in a previous post below). The characters for Cameron Rd. were the only road listed in 1-4-1 that it wouldn't translate. Sometimes I had to use the ChineseT-->English setting, and other times the simplified (ChineseS-->English) setting. It also correctly translates Nathan Rd. If you haven't tried the Amikai translator, you should.

Note also that just about any map you pick up at a Hong Kong hotel or tourist info center (such as HK airport) will be bilingual.

Lucky888
03-26-03, 05:25
Originally posted by Ex-Cop
I was looking at the 141 site because I will be in HK next week and I see some abbreviations that I am unfamilar with.
BM, BJ, ML, Dup. I am assuming that BJ is blow job but the others?

Thanks

BM = body massage
BJ = BJ...no guarantees if that will be BBBJ or CBJ
ML = make love
I don't really know about "Dup" by my sense is that is only used by the few 1-4-1 girls who actually claim to give real massage service. Note that many of the actual massage girls don't list ML as an option. If anyone has experience with these massage girls, I would be interested to know....there is one in TST that looks like a gem, but she doesn't list ML.

So, Jazman...oral sex? Well, BJ is available...just read the ads....most of them list BJ. In my recent experience, BBBJ was happily offered. Or did you mean DATY? I don't know about that, but you should seriously consider the risks of DATY with a Monkok or 1-4-1 girl....or any other busy working girl, for that matter.

Jazman
03-27-03, 16:17
lucky 888

thanks for the info.
what is your experience with doggy style or 69

Lucky888
03-31-03, 07:05
Originally posted by jazman
lucky 888

thanks for the info.
what is your experience with doggy style or 69

In general (not necessarily with 1-4-1) my experience with Chinese girls is that doggy is sometimes okay; but you should be prepared to start slow and work it in deeper over time....they generally equate doggy style with pain. Then again, the majority of my experience is with less pro ladies...maybe a real experienced pro would be different. Also, keep in mind, there are plenty of exceptions, and I'm sure some other members here can tell you stories of great action in all position.

As I implied below, I don't do 69 or DATY with working girls...even though it's one of my very favorite experiences.

Acer V
03-31-03, 11:36
Lucky,
Despite some girls not listing the ML option in the 1-4-1 ads I believe they all do. I have not seen any exception to this rule.

Question: What is DATY?

Peter
03-31-03, 20:34
Dining At The Y - going down on a girl. I asked the same question a couple of weeks ago.

Gyaos
04-01-03, 06:33
Last week went to Rainbow Spa near The Sheraton. Opted for a 45 minute massage which cost something like 650HKD (I remember it was $200 for the girl and 10% here and 10% there). Very nice receptionist.

Very nice place and was treated very well. Hit the tub, had a shower, went into the "methanol" steam room. Then sat down had two glasses of orange juice. The girls at that area were the prettiest and I thought one of them was going to give me my massage, but no. They kept asking me if I wanted foot or facial and it would cost more.

Then led to a nice room and had my massage with a cute girl. No *HJ*! Massage girl kept asking me to extend to 90 minutes. Well cop that. Nope, took my second shower and left.

Walked up the street, went right into Jordon and did the whole thing for 90 minutes this time for their brilliant $450.00 rate (I can't remember the actual total, but that was very close............I've been there before). Got a real smart woman and she gave me my needed HJ, thank goodness! Jordan was even cleaner than the last time I was there, so big thumbs up for them. Was given a $40 (HKD) coupon for my next visit.

Thanks to Rainbow's hope and delay, I was unable to check out the Macau ferry area and see what was offered there. Will do that later in April when I have more time in the jewel of Hong Kong!

Gyaos.

Acer V
04-01-03, 09:06
LOL....of course!

Peter
04-01-03, 22:20
Gyaos,

90 minutes is code for HJ, the 45 minute massage is just a massage, its that way at every sauna.

Peter

Peterhk
04-05-03, 21:09
Ok, here is THE solution for all people having problems with translatings street names.

Go to www.******.com , find the girl you like , check out the address part. Usually its a line with one or two numbers.

Try (!) to grab which chinese characters could be the building name. Should be 3 characters normally. Copy them with your mouse.

Then go to www.centamap.com , stay in the chinese version, don:t switch to English. Paste the building name from before into the text box and hit the search button.

You will get a couple of results of streetnames with streetnumbers , in Chinese , with the English translation next to it. Now just check if any building matches the streetnumbers mentioned on the 141 page, and you are done !

Enjoy a nice bilingual graphic ready to print out. Any girl is now possible !

Shame on me, I didnt check if this tip was posted already, anyway, hope to help some newbies hiere.

Btw, any japanese girls in HK ? Anyone wants to join me hunting in Mong Kong and Macao ? Cheers ....

Ruf66
04-06-03, 12:10
Sure Peter - when?

hongkonghunter
04-08-03, 04:59
Love to join you guys for some hunting. I patronise Mong Kok mainly.

I also have a private Phillipino girl, but she is pricey at HK$2000 for 90 mins, very hot though.

HKferry
04-10-03, 12:14
Originally posted by hongkonghunter
Love to join you guys for some hunting. I patronise Mong Kok mainly.

I also have a private Phillipino girl, but she is pricey at HK$2000 for 90 mins, very hot though.

Could you give a little more info on this girl? does she work a normal job in HK or here on a temporary basis? incall or outcall, physical stats..or hell even a picture.thanks.

Peterhk
04-11-03, 19:05
Email me at peter@manandmedia.com and let's organise a hunting trip. Either HK or Macao. Acer_V are you in as well ?

Sadism
04-12-03, 05:59
Hi there,

I'm a Hong kong guy and interested to have 2-1 or 3-1 sex.
As you know, Hong Kong is now in economic downturn that more girls are willing to have such game.
If you like such sex game (either you're now in H.K. or will come soon), please contact me and we hunt together.

I think you will get something cheaper if you are leaded by a local. My email is manager_sam@hotmail.com

Ruf66
04-12-03, 08:19
Peter,

Would prefer Macau - no "reported" cases there of Sars????

Plus it is a lot cheaper than Hong Kong. I have to go to Shanghai Monday - will be back in HK friday - so what about next weekend.

Any progress - please eamil on Ruf_66@yahoo.com

See ya!

Superforce99
04-12-03, 21:01
Here's my 141 report from yesterday:

I picked out a cutie who wasn't too shy looking or posing too strangely (I think some of you might know what I mean from checking out pics on the 141 site). Ended up choosing "Crystal", number #602.

The directions were seemingly clear because I've been to HK a lot in the past few months, but this was my first 141 exp. One thing to note, HK doesn't have address numbers for about 75% of the shops!! Except for banks, there are absolutely no indications of what the address of a particular shop is, so you have to keep an approximate mental count as you walk down the street and try to match the Chinese characters in the 141 address with the buildings in front of you. I ended up walking along the same 3 blocks a couple of times before realizing I had passed the building a few times since it's so low-key looking.

Took the elevator up to the 13th floor and the apartment setups looked like most public housing buildings I've seen in the US. Found her door, just like in the 141
pic and rang. She opened up, I said hello, and smiled at me silently. Then she stood there. I kind of cocked my head and laughed and she smiled again. I nodded then she nodded so I guess the "confirmation" of my purpose was made. Walked in and the entire room was about the size of a restaurant three-toilet bathroom, damn it's cramped!
A bed, dressing table, closed circut TV showing the front door, and a bathroom. She kindly asked for the money first, 325 HKD. I was hesitant but she seemed nice (ha ha, how many times will that get you in trouble?) so I handed it over. She counted then put it in a locked drawer.

First of all, she's listed at 5'4, 34b-24-35, but luckily, she had bigger breasts and was about 5’2 tops. I’d give her an 8 face/9 body. Petite, stacked, and hot! Very cute face, actually even better looking in real life than her 141 pics. I was getting all horny just looking at her in her tight red mini skirt. It was also hot and stuffy in the room and she said the AC was having problems that day, but ofcourse, so no AC. She turned off the halogen lamp and that left the glow of the security TV as the only source of light which was nice and subdued.

We sat on the bed and I looked at her. She looked at me. I smiled at her. She smiled at me. Ahh,the fun of not sharing a common language!

I suggested we take a shower and she jumped right up and was out of her clothes and in the bathroom before I had the chance to strip her or myself! She was nice and slow in the shower, washing me and herself, but nothing special. She was concerned about getting her hair wet,
so I held it up for her, which seemed to make her happy, and she was free to roam her hands all over my body which was nice...no bbbj though.

We toweled off and she told me to lie down. She sat on my back and gave me an unexceptional massage for about 10 minutes. Then I turned over and she started licking and sucking my nipples which was nice. After a few minutes, she asked if I wanted her to start a bj. Tried to persuade her to do bbbj, but to no avail. I'd say that her cbj is not great, not bad, actually more like "stealth bomber", ie., you don’t really feel it then suddenly, you're hard. But at this point, I couldn't resist that divine body so I just picked her up (which was much easier than I thought...maybe 85-90 lbs at the
most?) put her on her back and just covered her face, body, and legs with kisses, sucking, and basically I just mauled her. Damn, can't beat young 20-something, tender-yet-firm breasts with no sag! She was moaning and groaning softly with her eyes closed and after a few minutes, I turned around for 69 action. Again, couldn't persuade her to do bbbj and she kept her kitty covered with her hand but gentle kissing, licking, and caressing around her inner thighs and anal area made that
handfade away and I was just about to dive into a beautiful mouthful of vagina then…after thinking
about how many dicks have been there before, I regained my senses and forewent DATY and
lubed up my fingers for some handy work. Damn, that was a tight, tight vag! She seemed to really
like all of this and it showed in louder moans and stronger sucking. After a few minutes, I turned
around and entered her missionary. Shit, did I mention that was a tight vag, like virginal, but ofcourse, that’s impossible…ha ha. Alternated between fast pounding and slow grinding for about 10 minutes then switched to doggy. She didn't seem too into it so I pulled out and
I had her do some cbj. Again, no luck on the bbbj! Then had her sit in my lap and we kept going until
I finished inside of her. She was panting at this point and just sat on my lap with me inside of her for
another 10 minutes before we took a shower and I left.

No request for tip and smiling goodbye! Overall, not exactly a GFE, but she seemed to get more into it as the session went along. I was happy and impressed with her smokin' body and I just thought about it the rest of the day....wow....

johnny

Jazziton
04-13-03, 16:09
To Peter, Ruf, HK hunter and all guys who intend to find some action. How about making a trip to Shenzhen or Macau or even Zhuhai this easter weekend? Despite this SARS thing goig on, it shouldn't be too risky if one take enough precautions. I'm planning at least a day trip or one night stay over in Shenzhen to check out the action there and it should only be better now when not som many people are going there. Any idea or plans, e-mail me at jazziton@hotmail.com

Jazziton
04-13-03, 16:21
To Sadism,

I have had a 3some in BKK a couple of weeks ago, on overall a nice experience, but didn't like the changing of comdoms all the time I changed girl and hole. Ofcourse this is the safest way to play, also for the girls, but as a first time experience it kinda turned me off. But now I'm looking for similar action around the Pearl Delta region cause would like to try to have some more threesome experiences. Etiher HK, Macau or China.

Any good suggestions and recommendations? I have heard of some full service "sheun fei" in Macau Saunas but don't know which one of them offer what kind of service. Another thing that I have heard of is some kind of double service give in some saunas (massage places) in HK, ie. two girls servs you, give you hand and breast massage and then finish off with a BJ.

Do they offer any ice and fire, any full service in these places and how much for the damage...? Thankful for any advice and info.

Jazziton

Peterhk
04-14-03, 20:04
I would love to check out the Shenzhen Karaoke scene, but thinking of SARS I think we better go to Macao.

To All: We are three so far, who else wants to join us ? Email me at peter@manandmedia.com .

Happy hunting !

Superforce99
04-15-03, 04:50
To all in HK,

I'm trying to decide what is the best way to get a hold of viagra in HK, I mean REAL viagra. I've always had good success with mail order in the US but I've never tried mail order outside of the US for the blue pill so I'm worried about rip-offs or scamming my credit card.
Some others mentioned that you can get it at Chinese hosptials in HK but that seems too surreal, to just walk up and ask for some viagra at a hospital! Any info would
be much appreciated, thanks!

Johnny

Acer V
04-15-03, 10:54
Johnny,
Don't know about Viagra. Never had the need but I do know it is readily available here. You can get just about any drug without a prescription from the neighborhood chemists in Causeway Bay or Wanchai. Just go in and ask.

Ruf66
04-17-03, 06:16
Viagra is very easy and cheap to get hold of in HK. Nearly all chemists (the small ones) sell it. Especially in TST.

Guys lets do Macau - Shenzhen is kinda worse than HK at the moment with SARS - but the official figures are just pure bullshit.

I am ready all weekend to party....

hkexplorer
04-17-03, 09:58
Thought I'd take in some of the action today, figured with SARS things would be slow.

Went to a new (to me) 141 gal, Coco at 451-457 Hennessey Rd. 15th floor. The advert said her English was good, and it is. Had a nice conversation but alas, she had an appointment coming within 10 minutes so I promised her I'd come back. And I will, since she is cute enough and it is nice to be understood the first time you talk about things. Seems like she has a lot of gweilo/westerners for repeat customers, and I can see why.

Figured it was just some bad luck, then hit the 475 Hennesey building, with 10 F, 9 D, 5 A, and 5 B all busy! Damn. Tried Cyndi on Lee Garden Rd, and she was busy too! Her neighbor, Pinky, though was free and I always have a great time with Pinky anyhow, so it was still an ok afternoon.

As I have read on this site before, it always helps to have a backup plan. Just didn't figure I needed 7 of them...aiyyy yah!

Once I get back on line I see that the 451-457 building had 5 other girls on the 4th floor I could have visited instead of strolling around in the heat and humidity. Well, I will be better prepared next time.

Good hunting.

Dick Johnson
04-17-03, 17:25
The SARS virus might have already mutated into a more deadly form that kills the younger patients too. It is also more contagious.

Future mutations is a big concern. Furthermore SARS can spread through sewer pipes, cocroaches and rats.
God help us.

-DJ

Superforce99
04-17-03, 17:36
hkexplorer,

You post had me laughing to myself because I had a similar problem where a couple of rooms were busy and I had to walk around in this crazy humidity, too.
Then I, too, realized that most of the girls in a 141 geographic area are in the same building, different floors. Now that I have 3-4 buildings and their locations clearly marked in a map for next time(s), I have about 20 gals to choose from. It almost feels like shopping in a multi-level mall...

Johnny

P.S. I assume TST chemists know what viagra, but in case, what is it called in Chinese? and quality is not a problem? Thanks

Dorasan
04-17-03, 22:55
Originally posted by hkexplorer
Thought I'd take in some of the action today, figured with SARS things would be slow.You must be brave or never watch the news / newspapers. When most people wear a N95 surgical mask around the streets, and restaurants, malls, cinemas are deserted, you have the courage to have intimate contact with strangers, who could have a lot of contacts in the day. Worse of all, many of the girls are from originally from mainland china, they could be new arrivals or they visit home often.

Sadism
04-19-03, 07:04
Macau is too expensive for me!!
In Hong Kong, there are actually many massage places that provide HJ, BJ, BM or ML services.
If you request 2 girls to service, they can also provide.

When do you come HK? email me.
manager_sam@hotmail.com

Originally posted by Jazziton
To Sadism,

I have had a 3some in BKK a couple of weeks ago, on overall a nice experience, but didn't like the changing of comdoms all the time I changed girl and hole. Ofcourse this is the safest way to play, also for the girls, but as a first time experience it kinda turned me off. But now I'm looking for similar action around the Pearl Delta region cause would like to try to have some more threesome experiences. Etiher HK, Macau or China.

Any good suggestions and recommendations? I have heard of some full service "sheun fei" in Macau Saunas but don't know which one of them offer what kind of service. Another thing that I have heard of is some kind of double service give in some saunas (massage places) in HK, ie. two girls servs you, give you hand and breast massage and then finish off with a BJ.

Do they offer any ice and fire, any full service in these places and how much for the damage...? Thankful for any advice and info.

Jazziton

Teazian
04-19-03, 09:54
Originally posted by hongkonghunter
Love to join you guys for some hunting. I patronise Mong Kok mainly.

I also have a private Phillipino girl, but she is pricey at HK$2000 for 90 mins, very hot though.
Can you introduce me to this filipino girl ?
Thanks. email me teazian@yahoo.com

Johnny Rocket
04-21-03, 19:00
Jazziton:

If you are mostly looking for sex just go to the MK brothels or a 1-4-1 girl. Many of them will also give massages, but you might end up having to pay for more time if you want a massage, because I don't see how you could get a good massage and sex done in just 45 minutes. Even so, it will be less expensive than going to those sauna places, paying a lot of money for a massage, and then possible having to negotiate tips for extras.

The MK brothels will provide you with 2 girls at once. Usually it's just double the price of one, but some have a price separately listed.

Ice and fire is a different story. I assume you are looking for what in Cantonese is called "bing faw mmm chong tin" (at least that's the closest I can get using Roman characters). Where the girl gives you a BJ alternating between using ice to freeze her mouth and hot tea to heat it up. I've never experienced this with a paid service provider. :) In the MK brothels, I really don't see how they could do it because there are usually no facilities for preparing for this kind of service. The saunas might be able to though. I'd say your best bet, however, is to negotiate it with the streetwalkers in Jordan/TST or call a 1-4-1 girl before visiting to see if she will do it.

If you (or anyone) have any success, be sure to post and advise!

Good luck everyone.

Mighty Spearsman
04-21-03, 21:30
Originally posted by ruf66
Peter, Would prefer Macau - no "reported" cases there of Sars???? Plus it is a lot cheaper than Hong Kong. I have to go to Shanghai Monday - will be back in HK friday - so what about next weekend.Hard to believe that there are no reported cases of SARS in Macau, when you think about the # of people who travel back and forth HK-Macau on the ferries every day. Maybe Macau was part of the cover-up that China in general faced until today, when the Minister of Health and Mayor of Beijing were both sacked and the government admitted that there's a lot of SARS in China now?

Wolf
04-22-03, 05:06
Sadism,

I would be very interested to know where you can get BJ in Hong Kong. SAme for 2 girls service.
Would you share please ?
Many Thanks
------------------------------------------------------------
In Hong Kong, there are actually many massage places that provide HJ, BJ, BM or ML services.
If you request 2 girls to service, they can also provide.
manager_sam@hotmail.com
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Ruf66
04-22-03, 11:47
Originally posted by Mighty Spearsman
Hard to believe that there are no reported cases of SARS in Macau, when you think about the # of people who travel back and forth HK-Macau on the ferries every day. Maybe Macau was part of the cover-up that China in general faced until today, when the Minister of Health and Mayor of Beijing were both sacked and the government admitted that there's a lot of SARS in China now?

Well the first case now in Macau - is no where safe these days?

Johnny Rocket
04-22-03, 18:53
Wolf,

You can get a BJ in any of the places commonly discussed on this forum. The brothels in Mong Kok, the 1-4-1 girls, or in the saunas. Do you live in Hong Kong or are you familiar with it? If not look through some of the posts and you'll see directions to some Mong Kok brothels and some of the 1-4-1 girls' places. The saunas advertise themselves quite prominently, but as to which ones are best for BJ another poster will have to say. I never go to the saunas.

Good luck!


Originally posted by Wolf
Sadism,

I would be very interested to know where you can get BJ in Hong Kong. SAme for 2 girls service.
Would you share please ?
Many Thanks

Wolf
04-23-03, 02:07
Johnny Rocket,
Thanks for the tips.
I do not live in HK but visit often. I tried several tinme several sauna but have never been proposed a BJ.
Any body to coment and recommend ?
Thanks
Wolf

Beijing Lover
04-23-03, 13:54
No confirmed cases of SARS have been reported in Macau so far.

There was one suspected case on sunday, but it turned out to be a common pneumonia.

There is a new suspected case: a dutch student stupid enough to spend the weekend on Guangzhou.

He was detected in the border control and put directly on the hospital.

It seems that is fever is gone and he has improved.

Probably just another flu scare.

So Macau is still the safest place to hunt.

beijinglover

Superforce99
04-24-03, 18:34
Hey all,

has anyone noticed that the 141 ads have kind of changed? They no longer list the BJ, BM, ML Dup details for most of the girls. Maybe a crackdown on prostitution related to SARS?

JK

P.S. By the way, I finally learned that "Dup" means a special kind of massage where the girl literally pounds away at your body with her fists and not like a normal "kneading" action, actually feels pretty good, better than the way I describe it anyway...)

hkexplorer
04-24-03, 23:08
Dorasan,

I don’t think I am necessarily brave. Just going around town has risks… is the person on the MTR next to you a businessman just arrived from Beijing or Guangzhou? Is the person on the lift at Festival Walk the wife of a medical doctor from Kowloon Tong?
You can get exposed anywhere in town.

So I happen to enjoy the company of attractive, curvaceous, and eager young women…..life is too short to stop doing everything

Coco at 451-457 Hennesey, 15a, was marvelous, by the way. I made my way back to her earlier this week.

William Tellhk
04-25-03, 08:23
141 report:

Tried her on 25.4.03 at about 12:30pm. not too friendly at the beginning but warming up when talked in mandarin. cant speak english nor cantonese.

GOOD:huge tits and tight pussy, hygenic, uses condom for BJ

see her detail

at:

http://******.com/php/memberDetail.php?id=583

will keep u posted on my 141 visits...

if any questions...contact me on

dwittlin@netvigator.com

William Tellhk
04-25-03, 09:06
anyone wanna go for karaoke tonight ??m(25th of April)

in mong kok ?? lets go there and grab some nice pussy...

contact me on dwittlin@netvigator.com


cheers

Jazman
04-25-03, 21:00
hkexplorer

whats coco photo detail number

she sounds great

hkexplorer
04-25-03, 22:51
Coco is featured at

http://******.com/php/memberDetail.php?id=313

Cuter than the photo... it is nice to have someone who speaks english so you can specify what you want. Her services are a bit more than how they are specified, since for the first time she insists on some massage work as well. She seems to have a steady expat clientelle.

Tell her that you heard about her from an American she met when her massage bed was being repaired. Maybe if I send more business her way I can get some "rewards".

Jazman
04-28-03, 22:31
hkexplorer

well it seems from your post someone else has the name coco
http://******.com/php/memberDetail.php?id=718

so now whic is th real one

Ruf66
04-30-03, 02:23
Anyone wanna go hunting this Saturday? My last weekend in HK before I go home for a month.

Was in HK last weekend - kinda dead - so went over to Macau - stayed in the Mandiran through Club Da Macau - whole night costed for 2 less than 2kHKD. The bar in the Mandiran was packed with some real hotties. Picked up a Russian Girl who was hot and about a 9.

Let me know - my email is down the page somewhere.

CC1
05-06-03, 09:53
Gents,

What's the action like in Portland Street, Mongkok nowadays?

Acer V
05-07-03, 10:46
cc1,
I head down there to let off steam every 2 weeks there abouts. Action is as good as ever. Shanghai street just past Dundas street is my usual lacale. Also there are a few favorite boxes in Prince Edward St W that I visit time and again.

CC1
05-07-03, 14:46
Gentleman,

For those interested in 1-4-1 this girl has got to be one of the best looking I've ever seen in this line of biz - excluding the Macau girlies.

The price is a little high but.

http://******.com/php/memberDetail.php?id=761

If you do try, let us know if its worth it?

cc1

Superforce99
05-07-03, 17:56
cc1,

You've got to be kidding, right?? She has a decent body, if not a little skinny, but for $1000 HKD, she better be damn perfection and she isn't, to me anyway.

There are loads of other cuties who rank higher than her at the 141 site, in my opinion. It's almost like a desperate publicity stunt on this girl's part to generate some business in my opinion...

Johnny

Dick Johnson
05-07-03, 23:43
Originally posted by cc1
Gentleman,

For those interested in 1-4-1 this girl has got to be one of the best looking I've ever seen in this line of biz - excluding the Macau girlies.

The price is a little high but.

http://******.com/php/memberDetail.php?id=761

If you do try, let us know if its worth it?

cc1

HK$1000? ST... Let's see...
I think she's not bad. A bit too thin. And eyebrows a bit thin and unnatural. But very doable. 1000 a bit much though.

(Why bother blocking out the eyes when the other pics shows her eyes and there's not much nudity?)

CC1
05-08-03, 04:26
gee fella's,

I dunno, but I reckon if we slip her into some sexy see-thru lingerie and place her in a line-up like in the fishbowls she'd look pretty enticing.. but to each his own.

Artificial eyebrow... yeah they're all like that these days aren't they? Nice skin but, and attractive figure.. maybe bigger hooters would be nice, charming face...hey... but the bottom line does it for me... she's nice but not worth $1000 for ST!

Most definately a little pricey by 1-4-1 standards, but I suspect that her daddy deliberately does that to give her exclusivity and publicity as u say.

But in my opinion of those that do show you the entire face on the site, rarely have I see any stunners.

As for blocking out the eyes - haha what a joke, but she's eye candy to me.

Johnny Rocket
05-09-03, 21:15
Yeah I notice that there a lot more censoring of pics on 1-4-1 recently. They used to let you see the pubes and nipples, at least through the underwear... not so much anymore. What a shame. Sometimes I'm in a very picky mood for that unique Asian patter of pubes that starts out very thin near the clit and fans out as it rises.... there's just something so sexy about that.

Superforce99
05-10-03, 04:41
Hey,

Has anyone tried out this goofy gal? I thought she looked fun in her pics and the price isn't bad. I'd request service with glasses on...

http://******.com/php/memberDetail.php?id=46

Johnny

CC1
05-12-03, 05:06
News flash!

That girl I've suggested as being a goody:
http://******.com/php/memberDetail.php?id=761

well... today in a local Chinese newspaper she made front page news. Apparently she had her throat slit by a patron trying to rob her of money. Somehow they also caught the 'john' trying to rob her as he jumped out the window to escape. The article even had her picture and I am 99% certain the gorry picture of a blood stained body was her (you could make out the face). It also included one of her pics from the ****** website so I am absolutely certain its her.

This is phucking freaky!

cc

Dick Johnson
05-12-03, 05:58
cc1 that is scary. It is way too coincidental that a few days after our postings she got her throat slit, out of the hundreds of girls.

She died...? cc1, maybe you and I are indirectly responsible for her death! Some thug thought she had money. Or some ganster thought she was over charging when the going rate is a fraction of her rate. Her webpage has been deleted.

BTW, what newspaper is that? I'd keep the papers...

Mclaine
05-12-03, 15:31
Dick and CC,

It's very spooky indeed. I saw your posts last week about this chick. She was hot compared to the other girls. It all seems unreal, almost like a movie. It's quite sad, really.

CC1
05-12-03, 15:56
I can't remember the news paper.. but if you go to www.appledaily.com.hk you can find it there today...(it might be updated tomorrow with other news?)

http://appledaily.atnext.com/template/apple/sec_main.cfm

If you look at the cover page in the lower left corner you can make out the picture of the girl which if you recall was on the ****** site. Her entry in the ****** site has also been removed.

I can't read Chinese, so you may want to let us know what the detail are.

freeky!

cc

Johnny Rocket
05-12-03, 17:38
This is a terrible, terrible thing. But don't think that this site had anything to do with it. It's pretty unlikely because most punters in HK, or anywhere, don't read this site. We are a minority of hobbyists who want to trade information and be helpful to one another. Be sad but don't feel responsible.

Dick Johnson
05-12-03, 23:52
Originally posted by cc1
I can't remember the news paper.. but if you go to www.appledaily.com.hk you can find it there today...(it might be updated tomorrow with other news?)

http://appledaily.atnext.com/template/apple/sec_main.cfm

If you look at the cover page in the lower left corner you can make out the picture of the girl which if you recall was on the ****** site. Her entry in the ****** site has also been removed.

I can't read Chinese, so you may want to let us know what the detail are.

freeky!

cc

I'll check it out, cc1.
(BTW, you can delete your massage by clicking on 'edit' and 'delete now';-)

For non HK residents I'll need a subsciption to read it though, US$37 for 6 mths.

Superforce99
05-13-03, 21:12
I found this discussion thread dealing with the 141 murder, in English:

http://www3.icered.com/forum/messages.asp?location=000&id=0&forumid=12&TopicID=180818


Johnny

Dick Johnson
05-14-03, 14:43
Originally posted by Johnnykon666
I found this discussion thread dealing with the 141 murder, in English:

http://www3.icered.com/forum/messages.asp?location=000&id=0&forumid=12&TopicID=180818


Johnny

The discussion is just some guys wishing her peace.

I wouldn't rule out this has something to do with our posts. It's just too coincidental. A lot of people(including people in the sex industry) read this site, much more than the number of people who post. The normal going rate for ****** is hkd$300. Some charge a little more but this girl is going for hkd$1000. Did she shortchange the 'guards'(gangsters)? Not really telling them her going rate?

****** evolved from Mongkok and the girls always have to give a cut to the house. Probably a ganster/pimp lost his cool, after takeing too much meth or ecstacy. A robber would be quite stupid, getting out of there is not easy. Besides slitting her throat is more gangland style murder than robbery.

MoneyTree
05-15-03, 01:19
cant find the 141 link on icered

wouldnt worry about this website, no murderer in china can use the internet and speak english at the same time. would be one educated killer

Dick Johnson
05-15-03, 01:41
Hello? Money tree, have you been to Hong Kong? A lot of people speak English there.

Mclaine
05-15-03, 05:05
I've been reading a lot of the messages on this site for a while now, even before this murder happened. I get a sense that somehow contrary to common perception about people who subscribe or read this kind of websites, the people who are regulars to this site seem to be decent people.

Anyway, going back to that poor girl that got murdered. Her pictures from the ****** website are still on my hard drive and I can't help but stil keep looking at her pictures. Unlike most of the girls on that website, she seems to be altogether different from the rest of them. Like some of you have said, she can almost be a model somehow. God bless her soul.

People have always looked down on prostitutes ever since they first came into our society. But what people fail to sometimes see is that because of the harsh realities of our lives they are just forced into this kind of profession, often refered to as the oldest profession in the world. I'm not trying to be a moralist here or something, I myself, patronize or shall we say utilize the services of this "professionals" every now and then. I just hope that this sort of thing does not happen again. The killer must have thought that since she is the most expensive girl on the site, that she would have the most money. I read yesterday on the South China Morning Post, in a very, very small article, that the police have formally pressed charges of homicide against this fucking prick. Should he ever comes out of his coma, hopefully he'll rot in jail and in hell as well.

None of you have any reason to feel any guilt whatsoever for the fate of this poor girl. Let's just all treat them with respect.

Heres to "761".

Pluto
05-15-03, 07:34
Guys,

I dont have a great report for you unfortunately!!

Here's my experience with 'coco' in causeway bay (Figure out the id for
yourself!!)

Face - 2
Skin - 2
Body - 5
Attitude - 7
CBJ (only) - 5
Others - 5

I dont think any of the girls at 141 look as good in reality as they appear in the pics. The pics are made up to make them look very
attractive while in reality they're just a shade of the pics. :o(

Please can anyone recommend any 141 girl who provides bbbj and/or bbbjcs?? I'm free this Friday evening so if any of you guys are planning something for this Friday then let me know. I'm not a local guy and dont speak / understand any chinese!! :o(

Thanks

This report was edited by Jackson for capitalization and punctuation.

Jazman
05-15-03, 20:47
CAn anyone please explain to me the chineese onthis picture
‰ß–é HK$ 1000
http://******.com/php/memberDetail.php?id=709

Love Taipei
05-15-03, 23:37
Jazman

What came across on my screen were hangul characters without meaning. Hangul is Korean.

Maybe the Chinese translated into Korean

William Tellhk
05-16-03, 03:19
Originally posted by jazman
CAn anyone please explain to me the chineese onthis picture
‰ß–é HK$ 1000
http://******.com/php/memberDetail.php?id=709

That means : OVERNIGHT

1000HKD for overnight

OldAsiaHand
05-18-03, 03:39
Gentlemen,

Was there any mention of the WSG Forum in any of the press regarding the murder of the 141 girl? I cannot read Chinese.

Thanks.

OAH

Dorasan
05-18-03, 05:05
This is the news of the girl that got killed:

http://hk.news.yahoo.com/030511/60/rokk.html

This is the new online translator that can do traditional chinese:

http://www.worldlingo.com/products_services/worldlingo_translator.html

Note: if the news page is too complicated, the translator may timeout for the web page. Just cut and paste only the news item into the translator. Not ideal, but you can pick up the story.

I wouldn't worry too much about generating attention to the girl in WSG. The girl got noticed because she charged $800, more than twice than the other girls. Who wouldn't have noticed that?

I don't think that it's a simple robbery because the robbers think that she has a lot of money. It's risky to do that because the girls are usually related to gangsters. And you can see that the other girl and some other man are coming to the aid, resulting in one robber got catch. With that in mind, it's understandably the robbers immediate get to the throat, the other girl also has cut in the throat. The robbers are probably rival gangs. But after all, it's for the money so it's a robbery.

Johnny Rocket
05-18-03, 08:25
Mclaine: HERE HERE!! I agree 100%. Prostitutes are no different than any other person and this was a terrible thing to have happened.

And the people on this board are usually decent and respectful not only to each other but to the girls.

Be safe all, happy hunting.

Dorasan
05-18-03, 19:13
Depending on which translator you use, 'phoenix elder sister' simply means prostitute. Phoenix is a beautified word for hen, which is used for prostitutes. Elder sister is a more polite word for sister, which simply means female here.

WooVictor
05-20-03, 01:06
Having stayed away from the Mainland for two months because of SARS I decided to try out the Hong Kong market. Although I live in Hong Kong, over the years I've hardly hunted here – my last venture was probably two years ago, and I normally played only two to three times a year. As I’m not very familiar with the local market, I went on the net to search for some guidance. There are two useful websites, www.man169.com and www.******.com, but they are in Chinese only. ****** lists only the girls working alone in residential apartments (Hong Kong laws, being in the UK tradition, do not bother with what two consenting adults do in their “private” residence, a convenient loophole for prostitutes and pimps alike. Man169 includes other establishments such as nightclubs, massage parlours and cyber cafes.


Man169’s home massage (i.e. the girl will give you a massage in addition to other services) section lists probably some 20-30 locations, only 2 on HK island and a few in the Tsim Sha Tsui and Jordan areas. I’m not interested in those in other locations as I have no confidence in the girls’ quality. Anyway last week I found on the website an interesting place in Jordan called Jing Ying Beauty Parlour. It says it offers facial treatment for men but other services are negotiable. It offers the service of two young girls (with photos). The next day when I checked the pages again a different girl was listed. I phone up and confirmed that full service costs HK$400, in addition to $380 for facial treatment or body massage.

So I went at lunchtime, and took the opportunity to explore two other home massage places on Jordan Road in the same building (Hung Wun Building). They were absolutely no good. One place on 9/F had a big woman of over 30 years old and an untidy place, the other on 10/F had a skinny woman of at least 40. So I immediately head for Jing Ying Beauty Parlour at 165 Wu Sung St. To get there, you take the subway to Jordan. As you emerge from the C2 exit, you come to a crossroad. Go straight ahead along Bowling Street, parallel to the staircase that takes you up from the subway station to the street. Go down two blocks and at the third crossroad you come to Wu Sung St. No 165 is diagonal to where you’re standing. Chee Vick Commercial Building is easily one of the worst office buildings you’ve ever seen. You enter the building and immediately you have to walk up the stairs to the lift lobby. There are two elevators, one for odd-numbered floors and the other for even-numbered ones. Jing Ying is on 4/F, unit 4A. I couldn’t wait and took the other elevator to 3/F. As the door opened I saw someone sitting near the door of an office and that guy looked up at me. I found the stairway and walked up to 4/F. Luckily all four units on 4/F had their doors closed. On the door (and the iron gate) of Jing Ying are pieces of worn paper with handwritten notes listing its services (various kinds of facial treatments) and hours (10am to 10pm).

I rang the bell and a middle-aged woman opened the doors to admit me, I got in because I could see (though not very clearly) two young girls behind her. It’s a small unit of about 500 square feet. The front section has three reclining chairs plus some cupboards, a TV set and some other furniture. In the back are a toilet (with a shower and a washing machine) and two small rooms. The bigger room has two massage beds joined to form a larger bed, and the smaller room has just one massage bed against the wall. The woman signaled one girl to take me to the back, having confirmed that I was the one who called.

I was told to take a shower first. I stripped in the small room, wrap a towel around my waist, and took my wallet with me. After shower, my girl told me to get on bed and lie on my stomach, and proceeded to give me a massage with some oily cream. Just to make sure there was no misunderstanding, I asked her if she would have sex would me, and she said yes. Even though she was still fully clothed (she was wearing a blouse and a miniskirt, all in black) her legs were quite enticing and I told her I wanted to fuck her first. She said okay and went out to get a condom. As soon as she came back I stripped her naked (her ass was nicer than her tits) and got her in bed. Then I got off the bed and fucked her tight hole standing. Afterwards she cleaned up with tissue papers and continued with the massage. When she was done she cuddled up in the same tiny bed with me until time was up.

This sweetie called herself Helen, and she only started the day before. She’s quite small, about 163cm and weighs no more than 100 pounds. The website says she measures 34-25-35 but I think her tits were more like 32. But there’s no mistake that she’s the girl on the web pages, and I can believe that she is 19, as the website claims. Her look is ordinary, but her body is youthful and softly firm. She could barely massage, and told me she only learnt recently (by massaging women) and that I was the second man she had ever massaged (the first guy came the day before). Obviously she was no virgin but she was definitely new to this business. I told her I wanted to take her out to play in a hotel and asked for her mobile phone number. Surprisingly she hasn’t got one, and asked me to take her to karaoke and other places (though she didn’t specify). She also said they could do real facial treatment and may be next time I’ll try in, but probably with the other girl named Mandy. And if I go back for the third time, may be I’ll have Helen again.

Street Cruz
05-22-03, 23:42
Hey can someone help me out here.. I have been reading alot of reviews from ******.com and it sounds pretty good. I am planning a trip to HK, so I would just like some more info about how you would get in contact with some of those girls. Do you just goto the address as stated on each of the girls or do you kinda have to call ahead and make an appointment to make sure the girl that you want is working? 2nd question is that I see the prices for each of the girl, is that the price for 1 hr, no haggling of prices is required?

Greatly appreiciate if someone can help.

CC1
05-24-03, 03:48
Street Cruz...

The services offered by 1-4-1 girls generally require no appointment. You rock up during their opening hours and just knock on the door. If they are busy, you can just wait outside the door. Price is mostly as stated on the website, but sometimes I have found it to vary by about HKD$100. The time allocation is not fixed - but about 30 - 60 min... it really depends on the girl, how many ppl are waiting...etc. There is no haggling of prices however. You just pay them what you know was stated on the website and that should be fine.

Just FYI, there is an enormous brothel scene in HK. You might want to check that out instead. Personally, I have found this to be cheaper and more reliable than 141.

cc

Street Cruz
05-24-03, 04:47
Thanks for the info on ******.
But now you got me curious on the brothel seen. I thought this ****** is like a brothel already. So is there a web site that I can goto to find more info about the brothel in HK?

Just another question about the ******, So that price that is state is that for 1 hr of service? Do you get multiple shots? or is it just 1 hr and 1 shot?

Thanks again CC1

hkexplorer
05-25-03, 01:27
Had lots of fun tracking these down over the past week. Neither of them speak English all that well, and if I am to believe them they don’t interact with gweilos too much. But they were quite capable, lots of smiles, some teasing, some good action… nice looking ladies.

Shau Kei Wan http://******.com/php/memberDetail.php?id=338

Wan Chai http://******.com/php/memberDetail.php?id=494

CC... I agree with you, somewhat, about the brothel scene... there are times I fully agree that is the way to go... but for now the 141 way is perhaps a bit of a hobby for me.. finding the address, checking the ladies out... either way it is always a fun adventure..

Good hunting…

Zarkoff
05-25-03, 16:56
Originally posted by Acer_V
BFD,
Sorry mate, my fav's are too few and far between. I share my secrets only with a few close freinds. Try number 31 at City, I hear from another source that her service is pretty good. Also try number 8 at Lucky Sauna. I cannot speak personnally for either but give them a try.

Cheers,
Acer What is the sauna/massage scene now in HK with SARS? Several months ago I was at the Lucky Sauna and REALLY enjoyed #33 (she was very good, very sexy, and very hot) for a massage and HJ.

Do they do anything more than a massage and HJ? How do you arrange more? Thanks!

Acer V
05-26-03, 05:28
Zarkoff,
The sauna scene continues unabated. As always the girls come and go, go and come. Pardon the pun. It may be that #33 is no longer at Lucky.

I'm not sure that full service is available at Lucky. You may be able to negotiate extras with the girl. Bring cash into the room tucked into your mobile phone.

City Sauna and Temple Street offer full service as an option. No need to negotiate seperately with the girl. I think the going rate is HK$1,1??.

CC1
05-26-03, 06:42
Street Cruz...

FYI, the 141 scene has 1 girl in 1 house. So you rock up, check out the girl and if you like her, you do the deed. You go to her unlike in the brothel scene where you enter a brothel and the keeper will bring girls to you. Its 1 shot only. Problem with this is you need to 'shop' around. From my experience, its really hard to guess what the girls look like with their eyes blocked out. So, in the current HK heat that can be painful, door hopping until you find one you like. Having said that, 141 is a little like GFE, because you go out 'hunting' (as u say HKexplorer) and do it in the girls house... I guess its a bit like sneeking out on your wife/gf for a sideline relationship kinda feel!

For the brothel scene, price is standardised at about:
o $340 HK local gal;
o $340 Mainland Chinese gal;
o $290 for Malays, Viets, Thais;
o $600 for Russian

Time limits are 30 min - you can sometimes pay a small extra for 45 min. Pluses with the brothel scene is you are sent a selection of girls until you agree on the one you like. So the selection can be said to be better. There are no websites with info on the brothel scene particularly. Your best bet is on this site. When you get here, let us know, maybe some of us can hook up for a mini-mongerers-convention.

cc

Mclaine
05-26-03, 18:51
CC1,

Is there a group of you guys who see each other occassionally and go to these 141 places or brothels? If you do get together sometimes, do you mind if I ask the average age of the people in your group and what are their nationalities? Just curious.

Mclaine

Street Cruz
05-26-03, 19:58
Well I guess the brothel is abit more expensive but not too bad, but I never thought of it being a prob to go around to find the girl from ******. Never put the heat factor in. If the brothel provides quality girls that is ok for the littel bit of exta cash. Well I kinda know the it suck to have the eyes blank out, but I never thought it make that much of a difference on how the girl looked. To mean if the look OK and they have a nice body and finally there service is good, they can blank out the eye, hehehe. Oh and you said you only get 1 shot, is this for the brothel or ******?

I was just curious, as I see some of the times that the girls are avaliable there and it almost appear they are avaliable throughout most of the day, do these girls live there or something?

Thanks for the price list. When I took a look at the price list everything seem to be in line, but how come Russian girls are like 2x the price? Is their quality that must better? Are they willing to do more things? Or is it bcs ppl there are willing to pay abit more to have sex with a white girl?

Yeah when I wouldn't mind going on that little convention that you mention about. Is there some way that I can get in touch of you now? email or something?

CC1
05-27-03, 03:45
Mclaine,

I have never gone in a group mongering. For 141 there's no point really since there is just one girl in one location. For the brothel scene I just usually hook up with a friend or two. I only mentioned the 'mini-mongerers-convention' since I saw a similar thing being organised in the China threads. Sounded like a nice idea.

As for the patrons, from what I have seen you get all sorts of people. Seems the 141 scene are usually more techno-savvy since mostly the promotion is done on the websites. For the 5-6 times I have tried 141 the ages of the people who go are about 25 - 35.

Obviously many locals frequent the brothels. You have all races, ages and nationalities. The girl I did last night, 19 year old from Shenzhen had done gweilo, 'black', and Chinese. I have seen Japanese, gweilo (young and old), Pakistani, mainland Chinese looking for a lay whilst visiting HK etc. Ages can vary - but mostly young men 25 - 35.

If you need help, let me know.

cc

Dick Johnson
05-27-03, 13:21
cc1, are HK gals going for the same 340 rate as Mainland gals? I always thought they cost more and are rare in Mongkok and 141.

On another note, who is this Mclaine guy? He started his posts right after the HK 141 gal murder. Then he asks cc1(who first brought attention to the 1000HKD gal) questions about gatherings. Maybe he's a (wanna be or real) cop. (John Maclaine-Die Hard). Or the dead girl's boyfriend/gansta pimp. Either way he has contributed no useful info and I'd stay away from this guy and sure wouldn't join him for a 141 trip.

CC1
05-27-03, 18:10
Dick,

Interesting point you've raised.

As for local HK girls, they are now no longer prized. Yes, the going rate is the same as for mainland girls. Almost 9/10 the patrons I see choose mainland Chinese. So supply and demand, the HK local gals become hot property when their is a police raid or imminent raid since they can walk freely from brothel to brothel without worry from the police - unlike the mainlanders who are usually on restricted visas.

cc1

Mclaine
05-29-03, 10:48
CC,

I don't know about you CC, but it seems to me that Dick here is getting a little bit paranoid. What is he afraid of? I think Dick has been watching too many movies that he's starting to let his imagination run wild. Take it easy Dick (Dick Tracy?). Just too let you know Dick, the Hong Kong sex scene has never been too interesting for me. For one, the selection is not that good, secondly it's not worth the price they ask for, except maybe that poor girl that wasted, but even her price is a bit stiff. You're better off going to Macau or better yet the Philippines where you get more value for your money and better selection as well. Anyway there's more to life than this WSG Forum. There's a real world out there you know Dick. Maybe you should try going out more and watching less movies.

Dick Johnson
05-31-03, 12:17
cc1, interesting, HK gals are no longer prized. My feeling is the mainland girls in this prize range are better looking than the HK girls.

Macclain, just cautious, not paranoid. You sound like a guy trying to get revenge. Anyway, we do know there are other cheaper places, but this is the Hong Kong thread.

Jazziton
05-31-03, 21:05
Dear fellow mongers,

The 141 scene can be a hit and miss experience sometimes, as with every other scene of this business, but still worth a try and if you find some gems, it could be a really good experience. Generaly speaking, you ring the bell, see what is offered and if accept, proceed with the deed and then pay afterwards. Speaking for myself, there has been a couple of times where the gal was not what I had imagined. Most of the cases they correspond with the faces and outlook shown in the ****** or man161 websites, but sometimes some cloths hide some scars or marks that does not look that beautiful, still service was good indeed....

There are a few locations that house a number of 141 services which make it easier to "shop" between the girls, especialy when the one you intend to visit is "occupied", then you can easily move on to the next available one. I have found, both via the websites and through personal excursions, a few of these places in TST, Jordan, Mong Kok, Wanchai, and Causeway Bay. Sure there is other locations as well, but just to mention a few for your reference. Another good thing with these locations is that they offer easy access to the buildings without the hassle of remembering any door code or etc.

As for ringing the bell, be careful not pressing the wrong one. Make sure that it is the right apartment/floor you are goint to visit. Generaly, you will easily notice that it is the right place when you find signs advertising what is offered or the door gate is left "half open" or in some places there is no gates at all. When I'm talking about a gate, it is not the one in front of the building, which you often need a password to get through, I mean a gate that is right in front of the apartment, which is very commonly here. Often there are some signs as well, typical saying "please press bell" (in chinese) with a red arrow pointing at the bell. These caraceristics are not commonly for a "normal" residential apartment, imagine that you will put a sing on your door and ask people to press it?

There is one place that I have found, where you will not encounter any of the problems mentioned above. It is located in North Point, King's Road 321, 1/F. Basicly the whole floor is occupied with 141 services. But the environment is not that attractive as in some other 141 places, but this is my personal taste and view. Will be happy if any one of you have found or come across a similar place.

In recent post some of you comment that there is only one girl in one flat, thus not a good option for fellow mongering. The truth is that in some locations, as mentioned earlier in this post, consist of 1 apartment that is "split" into smaller, individual units or cabins and who said that you can't invite the girl next door to join!

I will be happy if you guys have similar info to share (especially sauna info) and maybe we could meet up somewhere for a drink or so (a mini convention?). If the mood and timing is right, maybe a excursion could be arranged and I will be happy to show you one of my favouite places where the selection is not just limited to one girl..... :-) Well, let's see if we could put up something before leaving HK in mid June.

Jazziton

P.S OAH, in the Szhenzhen board, is putting something together there, will be fun if he succeeds. D.S

Beijing Lover
06-01-03, 05:55
Jazziton


I'll be in Hong Kong next saturday.
I'm a guy from Macau, not very familiar at all with the 141 scene.
I'll be free from around 1pm to 5pm, after that I've to pick someone in the airport.
I wouldn't mind to meet you for a beer and some action after.

email me at beijinglover2001@yahoo.com

Beijinglover

PS: before you leave Hong Kong you can also come to Macau...

Pluto
06-02-03, 04:07
To Jazziton

Thanks for the info on 141. Do the babes at north point offer massage as well? Please recommend some.

Thank you

HK man

Zarkoff
06-02-03, 14:26
Originally posted by Acer_V
Zarkoff,
The sauna scene continues unabated. As always the girls come and go, go and come. Pardon the pun. It may be that #33 is no longer at Lucky.

I'm not sure that full service is available at Lucky. You may be able to negotiate extras with the girl. Bring cash into the room tucked into your mobile phone.

City Sauna and Temple Street offer full service as an option. No need to negotiate seperately with the girl. I think the going rate is HK$1,1??. Thanks for the info. Doesn't look like I'll be sampling the business this month! Stuck in Germany.

Zarkoff

Peterhk
06-02-03, 15:57
Hi brothers,
here is my first of two postings today.

Update on the 141/brothel websites:

www.sextvb.com (only chinese, rarely english addresses)

www.******.com (only chinese, but text can be copied into centamap.com)

www.mantvb.com (40% of the brothel info pages include an English address graphic)

www.hk161.com (not many updates, but is still being updated)

www.lady168.com (English city maps with English building names!!)

www.lonelyhearthk.com (great site, updated daily, but not many girls)

www.redzones.com (check it out, not too bad, not too good)

www.hksex18.com (page is not good)

Enjoy !

Peterhk
06-02-03, 16:09
Me again =)
I was recently keeping an eye on the www.lady168.com page and found something interesting. It's advertised as 141, but indeed when you arrive you will be surprised to find a Mong Kok style brothel, just much cleaner (not stylisher though, haha).

Entry is for a normal, and clean private house , not old and dirty, actually a bank is located in the groundfloor. A gym is located on higher floors which doesnt make it strange when you attempt to enter or leave the building.

Best is that the PapaSan speaks very good English. Just like Mong Kong style he asked me to sit down and presented a couple of girls to me. He asks for your preference and here is a point where his English ability is really great ! I have to be frank that the girls on that day were not very attractive, but I guess thats a question of personal taste.

Nathan Road 728 is the address, go there and check it out. It's the 9th floor. I thinks it's worth to try, as all girls just cost 300 HK$. The PapaSan is clever and asks if you know the price. He will obviously accept any pricer higher than 300HK$ since I found that different websites (see my last post) present different rates for the same girl. Make sure to say 300 HK$ or try 280 HK$. Maybe he agrees. Happy hunting !

PeterHK

Peterhk
06-03-03, 15:03
Zarkoff, are you from Germany ? We should have a Bierchen anyway ! It's time to organize a real WSG HK meeting at some bar or sauna with a lot of brothers from the site here. Group discount ! Haha. Cheers ....

Zarkoff
06-03-03, 15:55
Originally posted by peterhk
Zarkoff, are you from Germany ? We should have a Bierchen anyway ! It's time to organize a real WSG HK meeting at some bar or sauna with a lot of brothers from the site here. Group discount ! Haha. Cheers .... Hi Peter

Nope, from the US of A but I do a lot, and I mean A LOT of traveling. In Germany now around Kaiserslautern.

Cheers!

Superforce99
06-03-03, 17:43
Here's a triple decker report:

I had to go to Hong Kong for one day
this past weekend for visa purposes
and I decided to make it a sex-travganza.

After arriving bright and early
in the Mong Kok area, I had a great
cup of coffee and read the Wall
Street Journal Weekend Edition,
which is impossible for me to
do in Guangzhou, where I usually
am. Walked around a bit unitl about
11am when I thought the selection
wouldn't be so bad. Decided to have
a comparison between the various
services availabe in the Mong Kok
area.

Went into one of those upstairs places
with a "270-300 HKD Girls" sign
in yellow out front. If you walk around
in Mong Kok along Portland, Sai Yee,
Beijing, or Nathan street, you will
see them. Some are more obvious
than others.

The place is located near some jewelry
shop and about 1 minute from a corner
KFC. Also, it's the only place with a
"Foreigners Welcome" designation on
their "Girls" sign! I went upstairs and
was greeted by this friendly-but-greasy
looking guy with a big mole on his
upper lip. Mr. Mole ushered me into a
tiny room that had mirrored walls, a
small single bed, and a small shower
room. He asked what I wanted and I said a
Hong Kong girl. He said that Hong
Kong girls are still asleep right now
and how about a Mainland girl? I said
sure and he asked if I was Japanese
and when I said I was American, he
smiled and said he was very glad to
meet me then he leaves the room. He
comes back after about 5 minutes and
says that he's "upgraded" me to a
better room. this room must have been
4 times the size of the previous one!
Big double bed, mirrored walls, dressing
table, large bathroom with shower. It
never ceases to amaze me what people will
do simply because I'm from the USA...

About another 5 minutes later, in walks
this not-bad girl in tight black
pants, frilly purple see-through
shirt and a black lacy bra. About 5'1,
21 or 22 years old, and tight young
body. She gave me a friendly smile and
I saw that one of her front teeth were
stained from cigarette smoke so I assumed
that she must be somewhat "nasty" which
would be a plus, so I decided to keep her.
We had a nice friendly shower but no
action, just chatting and I found out
that she was from Hunan and had been in
Hong Kong for 2 days...2 days my ass! Ha
ha...

After shower, I laid down and her mouth
was on my penis almost before my head
was on the pillow! Now's that's eager service!
She alternated a good BBBJ technique with
aggressive nipple licking and ball licking.
Professional attitude the whole while, but
felt great. Then she stopped and asked if
I wanted to fuck her pussy and I asked for
more BBBJ which she did. After a few more
minutes, I asked her to put on the condom
and I entered her missionary. Tight and wet
so everything was going well. Did a couple
of positions and then finished. We took a
shower and then she gave a half-assed massage
for 10 minutes before she said she was tired
and we just chatted for a while. Exchanged
phone numbers though she isn't special
enough for me to call in the future. Gave
her a 50 HKD tip even though it wasn't
necessary and 300 HKD to Mr. Mole then
left for lunch. Here is what I'd rate the
experience:

Face, 6.5-7
Body, 7
BBBJ, 8
FS, 6.5
Attitude, 8

Overall, 7

Had lunch at a nice Italian place (love
the international food in Hong Kong!) and
walked around shopping for a bit. Went to
another "Yellow sign" girls place about
1 minute diagonal walk from Mong Kok
China Travel Service office. Kind of in an
alley but easy to spot sign on the street.
It has a big "270" on the sign. Went in
and a greasy-but-mole-less man greeted me
and ushered me into a small-ass room with
mirrored walls, small single bed, small
shower, and mini-TV with American porn on.
I asked for Hong Kong gal but the guy said
the gal was "working" at the moment. He
said he had Mainland gals which were good
and I asked him for a good recommendation,
with little real expectation. After about
10 minutes, in walks this BEAUTIFUL girl,
about 5'4, long black hair past the
shoulders, tight white tank top, tight
black bell bottom jeans, big breasts,
and full lips. I wasn't complaining about
my newfound fortune and accepted the gal.
She was stripped and in the shower before
I knew what was happening. I stripped and
joined her, then got the "don't-get-my
hair-wet" attitude. I laughed it off and
quickly washed and laid on the bed. She
dried off (and why do all girls dry their
pussy with a wad of toilet paper several
times after a shower?) and sat on top of
me. Immediate nipple licking which was
too soft but nice. Then she kind of looked
at my penis before deep throating the
whole thing and giving a GREAT BBBJ. I
mean, it was slow, it was fast, it was
slobbery, it was lots of sucking, licking,
everything. Just great. How can you beat
a hot looking girl doing a great job of
sucking your dick?? Also, watching the
bj action from different angles on the
mirrored walls was nice, too. I was about
to blow my load after a couple of minutes
so I stopped her and explored her body
for a couple of minutes which she didn't
seem to like so I just slipped on the
condom and went to work. Damn, her pussy
was lightly fuzzed and so deliciously
tight. Was great and contorted her into
all sorts of new positions so I could
see her face and pussy at the same time.
She was very compliant but somewhat
professional. Finished and we quickly
showered and dressed. Gave her a 50 HKD
tip (would have been 100 HKD if she had
a better attitdue) then paid 300 HKD to
Mr. Mole-less. Overall ratings:

Face, 8.5 really nice with luscious lips
Body, 8.5 HOT...the kind that makes you
turn your head as you're strolling the
street shopping...
BBBJ, 9 worth a BBBJTC if you're in a
hurry
FS, 7 mechanical, but tight pussy
Attitude, 6 service without the smile

Overall, 8 mostly because she was HOT...

Alright, at this point, I was feeling good,
mellow, and everything was just right in
the world. Took a short nap in a McDonalds
(safe, A/C, bathroom...the impromptu
traveller's secret). Then woke up and went
to HMV and listened to some CDs and read
magazines for a while. About 4-5pm now,
and decided to hit up a 141 location as
the final stop on the Mong Kok sex-ploration
and comparison trip. I didn't get a chance
to check out the 141 site before I left
but all three of my 141 experiences have
been at good ol' 706 Nathan apt building.
Easy to find and the best of the three
experiences was in an apt on 13th floor,
so I went back there, hoping that lightning
strikes twice. The risk was that there
MUST be a new girl in the room since I last
went more than 2 months ago, but I don't
have a clue what she looks like or what
kind of service she offers. Rang the door
bell and a really pretty girl opens the
door! Lightning does strike twice!

She was about 5'2, 110 lbs, and some big
breasts for a Chinese, about 34-36C I
think. Same price as last time, 320 HKD.
Paid first, then took shower together
where she was pretty friendly but still
protective of her hair. No action in shower
but very nice in helping to wash all parts
of body. Dried off and turned on A/C
since that room was an oven. Laid down
and relaxed for a few minutes as the room
cooled down. She asked if I wanted to
begin playing and I smiled and nodded.
Started with nipple licking (all taught
from the same School of *****-ology?)
which was gentle and tongue-intensive.
Then brought out a condom for CBJ which
I was very disappointed in. I tried to
talk her into BBBJ but she was very
resistant. I said I'd had BBBJ everytime
with 141 (a lie) and motioned to get
up and get dressed. Well, well, well,
guess who suddenly changed her mind??
I guess that SARS has still been affecting
business a lot or maybe this technique
works at all times?
BBBJ was really slow and gentle and I
had to tell her to do it harder. Good
but not great technique. The best part
was being able to enjoy it for a long
while without worrying about blowing
my load too quickly since I felt really
drained at this point after the two
experiences earlier.
Her jaws were getting sore after a
while and she just stopped and put on
the condom and sat on my cock from
a top position. Pussy was really tight,
probably tightest of the three girls.
Rocked on top for a couple minutes
then switched to a few positions
(really love how light petite girls
are so you can reposition them
easily and instantly while your cock
is still inside). Took a long time
before finishing inside of her which
resulted in a surprised/confused
look on her face...? Took a nice shower
together than left. No tip given or asked
for. Overall ratings:

Face, 8
Body, 8.5 petite, tight, stacked...
BBBJ, 7
FS, 7
Attitude, 6 needed threat to change
from CBJ to BBBJ...

Overall, 7.5

So, after this experience, I think my
opinion is that 141 is good when you
want to know exactly what you're getting
at what price, at what time, and what
location. Seems to give a better sense
of privacy and intimacy, like visiting
an illicit girlfriend or fuck buddy.
The girls (from my experiences)
have always looked like their pics and
the locations have been easy to find.
Prices are usually 320-400 and no tip
has ever been asked from me.

The "Yellow signs" experience provides
a more "common-man" feel with less
privacy and a somewhat assembly-line
feeling. But, the service is generally
better, no hassles for BBBJ, and you
can find some gems once in a while!
Prices are usually 300 standard with
30-50 HKD for additional 15-20 minutes.
Could also try Thai/Philippina women
for 270 HKD but don't find those women
generally attractive enough.

My dick was out of commission for the
next day and a half but it was a good
experience. Hope this was informative
to the brothers out there.

Johnny

Cavechu
06-03-03, 18:35
excellent report Johnny..thanks for sharing! that is the best way to stay young and keep your manhood in tune!

Jazman
06-03-03, 20:16
http://******.com/php/memberDetail.php?id=718

can anyone advise the exact address for the above

Jazziton
06-03-03, 20:54
To Beijinglover --> You've got mail

To HK Man --> Very few of the girls in King's Rd 321, North Poin0t, offers any massage. The going rate is HKD 350, with minor variations, and it's pure hanky panky. I will try to post info on 141 services with massage in a seperate mail or maybe other brothers could help?

To Johnnykoon --> Great report, but just curious about the location of the 141 services you mentioned. Should it be Nathan Rd 607 and not 706? I've been to 607 several times and they have 141 on a couple of floors, (ex. 11/F & 13/F)!

Jazziton

Lucky888
06-04-03, 02:21
Johnny,

Nice thorough report. I'd been wanting some more details on how the Mong Kok scene operated. Thanks!

Was this HK sex-capade before or after your Shenzhen hospital trip?