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Prado
10-23-04, 13:58
Everyone,

My quesiton is similar to Heinz Q. Any one know if the 141 selections in the hotel reservations catergory be made available in my room or they've strict rules to be only at their venus? My priority is the hotel reservation selections. Any comments? Are they anything that I should be aware of if I'm opting for this catergory or should I just stay with the ones with address.

Thanks in advance

Dorasan
10-24-04, 00:19
I'm wondering whether the girls in these bars are better/worse/comparable to the many options that the locals have. If there are local HK guys there, there must be some good about these bars compared to the numerous night clubs, Karaoke clubs, 141 etc.

There are so many local girls and even more new immigrants from China. In the Wan Chai bars they are mostly Filipinos and other Asian nationalities. I think there are few or none Chinese in these bars. I wonder if these bars are catering for English speaking visitors, the historical stereotype being uniformed sailors. You know, everybody who have a decent job can afford a Filipino servant there.

Drainaps
10-24-04, 07:21
Hi everybody,

Went yesterday to a 141 for the first time ever. Looked up 141sex.com where everything was sufficiently explained (and yes, in English). You can search now by district, be it Kowloon / HK or the NT. Way useful. Even foto shoots of how the buillding / elevator door look like are included, just in case.

Ended up visiting 16 Kimberly Rd., 7/F, Apt A3. Just off Nathan Road, and close to the Miramar Hotel. A cutie opened the door, and offered massage + HJ for HKD 300.

Very small joint, just a room w/ a bed and a massage table, a bathroom w/shower. Everything way clean. Building is standard HK type (a little scary, I guess, for newcomers, but safe).

I accepted the deal. Really good (strong) massage, first w/ towels and then w/oil. Ended with a slow HJ. All in all around 60 minutes.

Communication impossible (a mainland girl no doubt), but friendly all the way.

I guess thesse gals come and go quite often, but if you're into massage, one to keep in mind.

OldAsiaHand
10-24-04, 10:55
Cat Scratch,

Are we talking about the same place on Lockhart Road? The Latinas must be a new addition. I have never seen any other than the Filipinas/Thais and, the occassional Vietnamese or Indonesian in there. Having said that, it has been awile since I've been in there. Any idea how much the Latinas are charging for ST? Thanks.

OAH

OldAsiaHand
10-24-04, 11:06
Mongkok Veterans,

Speaking of S. American talent, can any be found in the Mongkok brothels? The only western I have found there were from Russian/E. Europe.

BTW, are any of the Mongkok places any better than the next? It seems that I've seen the same girls at different places. Is it the same pool of talent just being moved around?

OAH

Actionjun
10-24-04, 13:19
A month or 2 ago I visited HK and called the TST 141 hotel girls (found on www.******.com or www.best161.com). After a few misses finally found one who was willing to visit me in my on the island side. I think I paid about HK$900 (100 or 200 more than the list price for transportation). This time around the price seem to have gone up considerably. The extra charges range from HK$500 - $1500. I guess there must be other lazy brothers like me who pushed up the price. Oh well. No more of that game.

Tokyo Fun
10-24-04, 15:50
guys btw i know one of the "managers" for a few 141 hotel girls and he says they charge some 1400 for overnight so if you guys are interested in saving some hotel costs and being able to spend a night with a relatively nice girl PM me and ill let you know the details.. i cant provide the pics of them on 141 since it seems their ads are off or they have temporarily gone back to China.

I'm Tokyo Fun, form Japan (Tokyo) and I have interest to know some nice girls to overnight. I have access to 141 home page, and the girls is all nice or beauty. But I dont speaking nothing as local language or cantonese or chinese. And my english is so so. Can you give me a hand to how to approach this beauty girls?

Thank you,

Tokyo Fun

FurryFriend
10-24-04, 17:46
Speaking of S. American talent, can any be found in the Mongkok brothels? The only western I have found there were from Russian/E. Europe.

BTW, are any of the Mongkok places any better than the next? It seems that I've seen the same girls at different places. Is it the same pool of talent just being moved around?

In all my experiences at the Mongkok brothals, I've never seen a South American.

All brothals draw from the same pool of girls. The only difference is the attitude of the papasan, how accomodating he makes you feel and how well he picks a girl for you. Brothals near the center of the red-light district will dispatch girls faster, and in greater quantities, than those on the fringe.

But screw that. You should pick the girls yourself by standing on the corner of Soy and Shanghai Streets and watching the nightly parade of streetwalkers. If you find one you like, you just follow her into a brothal. It may be a problem for white patrons because they will seriously stand out if hanging out in that non-tourist area. But if you don't mind attracting attention, its a better way to pick the girl.

Acer V
10-25-04, 04:16
Neptunes II is actually on Jaffe Road tucked in behind Delaney's Irish Pub. The Neptunes I on Lockhart Road was shuttered more than a few years ago. I am an infrequent visitor to Neptunes II but have seen a few Latina's at times. I've never seen them in the MongKok brothels.

In my opinion, there are some better kept places than others in the MK area. Yes, many of the brothels share a stable of girls but there seems to be a different gang in charge depending on the general area. The streets up near Prince Edward have different talent than the places further south on Portland St. Also the places on the other side of Nathan Road in MK seem to have different talent than the Portland St and Shanghai St places. These have been my observations over the many years I have been visiting.

Derby
10-25-04, 04:57
Prado,

The 141 girls do come to your hotel rooms. You just need to pay the extra for the travel and taxi fair. One way to get your money worth is trying to book the girls for the last session and negotiate for a rate to cove the whole day. The last session usually ends mid-night or 1 am depending. You should not need to pay for more than 1.5 to 2X of the usually session for overnight.

Hope this helps.

Cat Scratch
10-25-04, 05:24
OldAsiaHand

I was there on two nights in a row and there was 6-7 of them, all were on the voluptuous side (not obese, but not svelte either). Funnily enough I thought they may have caused some consternation amongst the Asian girls but a Thai girl I was talking to said that she had spoken to one of the chicas and said she was a good person.

Cat

holy
10-25-04, 08:10
Everyone,

My quesiton is similar to Heinz Q. Any one know if the 141 selections in the hotel reservations catergory be made available in my room or they've strict rules to be only at their venus? My priority is the hotel reservation selections. Any comments? Are they anything that I should be aware of if I'm opting for this catergory or should I just stay with the ones with address.

Thanks in advance

This question is often asked in the local (Chinese) forum. According to the locals, the rule of thumb is "Never bring these girls to your room" for safety reasons. Someone in the past had tried and resulted in being blackmailed when guys showed up at your room demanding "a lot more money" afterwards. There is no telling if these are isolated incidences so why try your luck? It is not clear if these girls would want to come to your room anyway since they are also worry if it is a setup.

Going to the girl's hotel room is much safer but the hygine may not be acceptable. Price of the hotel girls are much higher than the regular 141 and their quality are not necessarily better. Basically, its like a crap shoot. The forums, even if you read Chinese, are not reliable either. Many are essentially ads posted as "good experience".

Frequent Flier
10-26-04, 00:33
From my experiences in the past years, most these girls are Brazilian. I never saw any in the Wan Chai bars until starting this past year. They used to mainly hunker down in the Tsim Sha Tsui, Kowloon bars. I saw plenty of them in Hari's years ago and had a co-worker who had a run in with one who threw a glass at him and cut his face up pretty bad.

Now that is the only time I have ever heard of a problem with any girl in Hong Kong where things turned violent, but it happens and I had the impression that her being of the hot blooded type wasn't in his favour.

Not sure what caused the problem that resulted in the glass being thrown, but it was only a verbal spat until she blew her lid and took things to another level. She was arrested and deported, but about 10 months later I saw her back in Tsim Sha Tsui again. I'm sure on a fake passport with a different name.

I never find these girls that attractive as they all, and I mean all that I have seen and I have seen lots of them, dye their hair a fake blond. I'm not talking a good dye job either. A Blond in a bottle as we used to refer to the girls with the dried out blond hair. Being from South America most these girls are brunettes from head to toe and they most likely do this to stand out and be different or so they can be confused with Eastern European or Russian girls by those who are not earful to the accents they have.

In any vase they are not for me and from what I hear are over priced with under service attitudes.

YMMV,

FF

BJK
10-26-04, 14:53
[QUOTE=Dorasan]I'm wondering whether the girls in these bars are better/worse/comparable to the many options that the locals have. If there are local HK guys there, there must be some good about these bars compared to the numerous night clubs, Karaoke clubs, 141 etc.

Dorasan,
I am not a local but these gogo bars in WanChai are only set up to service english speaking visitors. For the locals the chinese hostess nightclubs and karaoke places provide pretty similar service. i.e. expensive drinks, entertainment of sorts provided by the girl and the option of take out. Many of the karaoke bars have local girls and they are generally young 18-22yo. My HK friends quote cost of $3000+ for takeout. Add $1000 or more for the drinks and room etc. A few of theses friends who are aged in mid twenties think this is a pretty normal activity when they don't have a gf. They might also go to a sauna. For them they do not go to 141 or Mongkok thinking that is for a quicky for the married blokes.
Also very few locals seem interested in filapinas and don't chase them in WanChai

BJK

BJK
10-26-04, 15:22
funnily enough i thought they may have caused some consternation amongst the asian girls but a thai girl i was talking to said that she had spoken to one of the chicas and said she was a good person.

cat

cat rep001ch
your observation is funny on another angle as there is consternation and competition between the various asian girls. generally the locals look down on the prc girls who both look down on thais and filipina's. for most thai girls, this does not bother them too much but most filipina really resent this attitude.
pricing reflects the relative status.
for me the maximum price in wan chai for st is
chinese 1200
thai 800
filipina 600
normally 800 - 600 - 400 is what i can negotiate to.
i made a mistake once in trying to bargain down a prc girl by pointing out a filipa was $400 less than what she was asking. she thought the differntial too low and upped her price.
i would be interested in asking and negotiated prices for the chica's and how they compare.

bjk

Dorasan
10-26-04, 18:34
BJK

I totally agree with your observations about the ranking of the girls. That's why I wonder if there are any locals there. I don't know anybody who knows about both types of places well so have to ask. I do know something about the local night clubs.

Another way to look at the ranking is the skin color. Northern PRC girls are always in higher demand than middle or south PRC girls, except some particular brand name provinces in middle China. Filipino are tropical, while Thais are a bit north. HK and Asian countries still favor the pale white look. HK mothers cover themselves and their little girls as best as they could when they go to swim.

As for the price, I think your friends quote you some clubs that they are proud of. Say China City. In these clubs they don't rely making money on taking out. Indeed many girls don't go out and many businessmen go there just to kill time. Even in these clubs there are two tier prices and you don't need $3000 HKD to take one out. But in any clubs, if you don't watch your time and bill, over $1000 is pretty easy just for the time spent in the club, in even the smallest clubs. Some small clubs rip you off if you don't know anybody.

My hear say is: for afternoon tea, the bill can be less than $200/hr. Take out is $300 - can be an 18 year old local pretty girl. Basically, it has to be higher than comparable 141 girls, but you get more time. And the price can't be much higher than 141. If guys have time, they can go to PRC. If they are desperate, they can do 141.

I heard that all the pretty PRC girls go to TST big clubs. What left in Mongkok are older girls. Local HK girls have a hard time. But in the small clubs inside buildings, there are plenty of young local HK girls below 20 (starts from 16 which is the critical age in HK and most European countries). Many are real students because HK have a rather good education system, free I think. Some do take out and some don't. They are too young to look good with middle-aged businessmen in big clubs. If these local girls are any older there are plenty of model type PRC girls to compete with. Many are part-time and don't think of themselves as working in single girl brothels as in 141 and the true brothels.

I have some club names but don't know exactly the locations, and don't know the rules. If anybody have some information, please post or PM me. You may hear my report as soon as next week.

DRS

Member #2771
10-27-04, 10:53
Just my experience:

I was in hong kong for quite a few times, ususally,.. if you can read and speak chinese, it is much easier for you to find the local girls in Kowloon area. The usual place to look ofr action is in KTV and price differs depending from location. Generally, I like to visit KTV if I'm travelling with friends or my business counterparts are into it. Drink and chitchat. After that "supper".


Night Club:

Usually, you get yourself a room that comes with KTV facility. The manager will introduce you girls and have them accompany you. Most places have hour booking system whereby the longer you stay with the girls, the more you need to pay. Usually, the manager will bring you a girl and have her accompany you for 10-15 minute if you like the girl. When the time is up, the manager will come in and ask the girl to leave. He will ask you whether you are happy with the girl and want to extend her stay. If you decided that you want to look at other girl, you need only to pay for the 10-15 minute period and he will bring you another girl. If you are happy with the girl, you can book by hour and the manager will ususally not bother you anymore until each hour is up.

If you like the girl and want to bring her out for "supper", you will ususally pay for the rest of the hours that she is required to work till the club closed. The cost of the "supper" is ususally negoiate with the girl.

Massage:

Most place, like most massage place you visit in asia, you decide what you want and pay to the cashier in the counter when you leave. Most place open till late and some ever let you in at 4am in the morning. Please ask what are the service provided, not all places provide all kind of service. In other words, some may not provide full service.


The following is the list of place that you can go:

Prince Edward -

Been to a few so call KTV night clubs. Most of them will serve with free beer if you book a room for about few hundred dollars. Had been two before, and in both cases, I ended up in the cheap hotel upstair of the night club for a quick "workout". Cheap and good, total spending is usually less than 1k.

Mong Kok -

Been to one of the KTVs. It is really KTV. I.e. singing and chit chatting. It is a see no touch place. Not much happening there, but will sure hunt this area for some happening KTV if I had a chance to go Hong Kong again. Anyway, there is a lot of brothel there, so not afraid of disappoint in this area.

Yau Ma Tei -

Never had a chance to explore this area, perhaps, someone can provide more information.

Jordan -

Been to a few massage joints, generally speaking, service is good and not expensive.

Tsim Sha Tsui -

Generally, I don't visit KTV in this area. Drink in KTV can come close to 5 to 10K, and girls are expensive too. Nevertheless, if you are feeling rich, you should try.

Google Search:

http://www.google.com.hk/search?q=%E5%A4%9C%E7%B8%BD%E6%9C%83+%E4%B9%9D%E9%BE%8D&hl=en&lr=&start=10&sa=N

Some good web sites on the net:

http://******.com/php-en/main.php
http://www.man169.com/yp/index/hk/ofo/area_index.htm
http://www.best161.com/eng/girls.php
http://www.lady168.com/lady168/Eng/main.php?start=0&pno=1&dist=all
http://www.161sex.com/english.php
http://www.hk141vip.com/
http://www.girl348.com/
http://www.hkgirl328.com/
http://hp.sextvhk.com/new/index.php
http://www.redzones.com/
http://timway.com/hk/Life/Adult/Services/

Wolf
10-28-04, 00:29
Hi everybody,

The Golden herd seems to be back in the Golden Mine. Saw 4 of them yesterday at the Holiday Inn bar. Didn't try their service as I was not alone...

Hunt and enjoy

Wolf

Lancelot
10-28-04, 03:42
Last time I was in HK alone (w/o wife & family), I had no trouble finding action. I took the MTR to the Mong Kok station and went outside. Lots of BBS's everywhere you look. I picked a clean one at random, and went upstairs. I picked the most expensive option on the menu at HK$390, and the guy took me into a small, private room with bed, shower, and TV with porn. A few minutes later, a young Chinese girl, very pretty, nice body, came in, disrobed, helped me undress, and we showered together. We spent a very enjoyable 45 minutes together in every position imaginable and then another shower together, dressed, and on my way.

On another trip, I was window shopping in Tsim Tsa Tsui, when I was approached by a gorgeous older Chinese lady. She initiated a conversation and eventually asked if I was lonely. She offered to accompany me back to my hotel on the island side for US$100. It was the end of my trip and I was low on funds, so had to decline. Damn!!

LuvumBare
10-28-04, 23:11
Hi everybody,

The Golden herd seems to be back in the Golden Mine. Saw 4 of them yesterday at the Holiday Inn bar. Didn't try their service as I was not alone...

Hunt and enjoy

Wolf

Was this Golden Mile or on HK side?

Bare

Kabukicho
10-29-04, 02:16
Neptunes II is actually on Jaffe Road tucked in behind Delaney's Irish Pub. The Neptunes I on Lockhart Road was shuttered more than a few years ago. I am an infrequent visitor to Neptunes II but have seen a few Latina's at times. I've never seen them in the MongKok brothels.

In my opinion, there are some better kept places than others in the MK area. Yes, many of the brothels share a stable of girls but there seems to be a different gang in charge depending on the general area. The streets up near Prince Edward have different talent than the places further south on Portland St. Also the places on the other side of Nathan Road in MK seem to have different talent than the Portland St and Shanghai St places. These have been my observations over the many years I have been visiting.

I'm trying to break this down.

1. Streets up near Prince Edward, for example? (streets get dead, I've gone up to the Police Station. Keep walking?)

2. South on Portland, but you still mean that general soy,shanghai area?

3. Otherside of Nathan Road, really, past the ladies market or so?

Superforce99
10-29-04, 05:27
This is a report from last week that I didn't have a chance to post.

Decided to make it a "141 gal" type of day as I returned to HK
from a trip abroad. I arrived early into HK early in the morning
so it was nice to have a coffee and read the paper. I then
headed to the Starbucks in TST near HMV and pulled out my
laptop to search through the various 141 sites.

GAL #1
About 12:30pm I decided to head over to CC1's recommend
place (731 Nathan).
It was my first time and it was interesting in the sense that I
compare it to a typical "yellow sign" brothel combined with
a 141 atmosphere. Actually, there was a guy in the elevator
delivering lunch to the very room! He smiled as I got off on
the same floor as he did.

After entering, the papasan showed me to a room and asked
me what I wanted. I said, "Bring me some fun gals" and he
smirked as he closed the door.

My first impression of the rooms were big, clean, and mirrored
to the gills. There are mirrors to the right, left, front, back, and
above. The only thing missing were mirrored floors. Another small
room attached contained the shower and toilet.

After about 5 minutes, the papsan returned with 3 gals, all
mainland Chinese. He said, "This one's 300, 300, and 350.
Which one?" The 300's were older and didn't look so happy.
The 350 was kind of grinning and looked happy, so the choice
was obvious...

With a smile, she came into the room and closed and locked
the door. We chatted for a bit and discovered she was
from some small town in Jiangsu. She was late 20s, 5'5, 100 lbs,
handful-breasts (about size of a medium orange?), and
overall petit, proportioned body. Face was good but not
great, but natural, happy smile throughout the session.

She was very helpful and chatty during the mutual shower
but no action. After drying off, we went laid on the bed and
she began almost instantly. Standard nipple licking then
kissing down the body then BBBJ. Nothing special but good.
The BBBJ was kind of light and feathery though, and I like more
authority and action. After I requested a more active BBBJ,
she talked me into a CBJ after which she became much more
active, with varying suction, ball licking-kissing-biting, and lots
of eye contact.

After a couple of minutes I stopped her and we went into a
couple of positions before finishing doggie. She seemed to
enjoy it, giving out soft moans that weren't the usual annoying
B-movie grades. I thought it was "all you can fuck in 60 minutes"
as CC1 posted, but she got up, showered, dressed, then sat on
the bed and waited for me. She looked at me incredulously when
I said I thought there was more but maybe it was because other
guys never went for a second shot? No tip given nor asked for.

Oh, well, OK service, OK price (350 HKD). Worth a shot but not a
repeat.

Overall:

face-7/10
body-7/10
service-6/10

total-6/10

Johnny218
10-29-04, 06:08
This is a report from last week that I didn't have a chance to post.

Decided to make it a "141 gal" type of day as I returned to HK from a trip abroad. I arrived early into HK early in the morning so it was nice to have a coffee and read the paper. I then headed to the Starbucks in TST near HMV and pulled out my laptop to search through the various 141 sites.

GAL #1 About 12: 30pm I decided to head over to CC1's recommend place (731 Nathan). It was my first time and it was interesting in the sense that I compare it to a typical "yellow sign" brothel combined with a 141 atmosphere. Actually, there was a guy in the elevator delivering lunch to the very room! He smiled as I got off on the same floor as he did.

After entering, the papasan showed me to a room and asked me what I wanted. I said, "Bring me some fun gals" and he smirked as he closed the door.

My first impression of the rooms were big, clean, and mirrored to the gills. There are mirrors to the right, left, front, back, and above. The only thing missing were mirrored floors. Another small room attached contained the shower and toilet.

After about 5 minutes, the papsan returned with 3 gals, all mainland Chinese. He said, "This one's 300, 300, and 350. Which one? " The 300's were older and didn't look so happy. The 350 was kind of grinning and looked happy, so the choice was obvious.

With a smile, she came into the room and closed and locked the door. We chatted for a bit and discovered she was from some small town in Jiangsu. She was late 20s, 5'5, 100 lbs, handful-breasts (about size of a medium orange? ), and overall petit, proportioned body. Face was good but not great, but natural, happy smile throughout the session.

She was very helpful and chatty during the mutual shower but no action. After drying off, we went laid on the bed and she began almost instantly. Standard nipple licking then kissing down the body then BBBJ. Nothing special but good. The BBBJ was kind of light and feathery though, and I like more authority and action. After I requested a more active BBBJ, she talked me into a CBJ after which she became much more active, with varying suction, ball licking-kissing-biting, and lots of eye contact.

After a couple of minutes I stopped her and we went into a couple of positions before finishing doggie. She seemed to enjoy it, giving out soft moans that weren't the usual annoying B-movie grades. I thought it was "all you can fuck in 60 minutes" as CC1 posted, but she got up, showered, dressed, then sat on the bed and waited for me. She looked at me incredulously when I said I thought there was more but maybe it was because other guys never went for a second shot? No tip given nor asked for.

Oh, well, OK service, OK price (350 HKD). Worth a shot but not a repeat.

Overall:

face-7/10 body-7/10 service-6/10

total-6/10 johnnykon666, I will be in hk next month for business. I plan on trying 141 too. I was wonder if at any time you felt unsafe. do I have to fear the police or gangs?

Superforce99
10-29-04, 06:33
GAL #2
Had a typical lunch at Cafe de Coral which was good and
cheap then at about 2:00pm I decided to check out a
"141 massage-type gal" who usually posts the 400-500 HKD
range with 60-90 minutes of massage + service.

I decided to go to a building in Jordan (National Court) with several 141
massage girls. Got up to the 12/F and...her door was closed, the gate
was locked and her room lights were off...holiday? back to China?
Oh, well, when dealing with 141 gals, you MUST have several backup
choice ready because you rarely, if ever, get your first choice.
Damn...I was sure if there were other141-type gals in the building,
but not exactly sure where the others were so I looked around the
other floors blindly. The rooms with 141-type gals are obvious,
with a little "welcome" sign or some other stickers and signs posted
on the outside and I would just ask them for price after a quick
judge of physical attractiveness.

I discovered from floor 10 - 15 there must have been about
15-20 additional 141-type girls but EVERY ONE OF THEM were busy
with customers! I guess all the HK guys needed to bust their lunch
time nuts!

Anyway, I decided to come back down to the 12/F and in B1,
the room next to my original choice was this gal:

http://www.best161.com/eng/girlsdetails.php?girlid=1926

She's kind of older, my guess is about 30, but has a decent body,
accurately shown in her ad. She's probably been doing the 141
massage thing for a while because she was totally relaxed, chatty,
friendly, and happy. She laughed when I asked how many shots in
her 75 minutes of service and she said, "Let's try one and then see
what kind of a young stud you are...ha ha.." Definately helps to
speak Cantonese otherwise there would have been no conversation,
as usually happens with foreigners she has serviced. She's a native
of some small village in Norther China so Mandarin is fine, too.

Room was very large, with a bedroom area, massage table area,
small kitchen area, and bathroom. I took a shower by myself then
she had me strip and lay naked on the massage table. She covered
me with a towel then gave me a decent, light massage all over. It
was more like a "semi-lame girlfriend massage/touching you" while
chatting. Actually kind of nice and relaxing but not really sexually
stimulating.

After flipping me over and massage some more, she asked, if I
wanted full service...?! Apparently, a lot of older men ask for her
semi-girlfriend massage and nothing else. Ofcourse I wanted FS
so she starts with the standard nipple lick then chest kiss then made
up a lot of excuses for CBJ. The mood was very nice, relaxed, and
positive so I let her do it instead of BBBJ. After a couple of minutes
of good, not great, CBJ, she hops on for some cowgirl then reverse
cowgirl then I flip her over for missionary. The massage table was
very well suited for different positions. After while, I carried her
mid-missionary onto the bed where we did doggie, girl on top, and
some other positions before we finished missionary.

She really seemed to like the FS but had this weird habit of closing
her eyes and giving a fake-ass moaning followed immediately
by a sincere look into my eyes and saying this/that feels good
and after a minute or two, kind of getting a look like, "Oh, yeah,
I should be doing the fake moans" and repeating the cycle. After
I told her that I don't need her to moan, she laughed and said that
most HK men like her to do the fake-ass moans. Later while chatting,
I also discovered that, surprise surprise, she doesn't like being with
fat, old customers even if they are nice. She's also had customers
as young as 16 or 17! She said that a lot of high school boys are
really curious but they don't know how to fuck at all. Also, they
complain that their high school girlfriends don't have time/desire
to have much sex, so....141 gals to the rescue!

I wanted to go again, but by this time, after all the chatting,
the massage, then the FS, it was about 80 minutes already. Damn.
I'm almost sure she timed everything like that! But then again,
it wasn't unpleasant, quite the opposite. So, if you just want to
fuck for 75 minutes, you should begin ASAP. Total price was 500 HKD
and no tip asked/given.

I would recommend as an occasional treat or alternative
experience, but for good FS, I'd just go to the cheaper, more
convienent yellow sign brothels.


Overall:

face-6/10
body-7/10
service-7.5/10

total-7.5/10

Dorasan
10-29-04, 08:24
Are there anything evolved to take place of the now all closed cybe bars? Or does anyone know of anything with similar type of girls?

Wolf
10-30-04, 07:31
Luvumbare,

This Golden Mine is the Bar of the Holiday Inn in Tsim Sai Tsui in Kowloon.
There are 4 to 6 of them every night.
You can't miss them. Early in the evening by 21h00 to 22h00 they stay on Nathan road next to Holiday Inn entrance. After and up to 1 a.m. they are in. They will probably be the first ones to approach you in the bar with large smiles and large open breast. They are nice to talk to even if you do not want their services. I recommend anyway the experience as these girls are really loving what they do.

Enjoy

Wolf

Kev 3X
10-30-04, 16:39
What is the going rate for the Golden Herd ladies?

HKferry
10-31-04, 09:41
overnight girls,

guys ive got a lot of PM's from interested guys looking for overnight girls.

this is one of them, never tried her before but i know for a fact she can say at least one phrase in english which is "fuck me". http://www.******.com/php-en/memberDetail.php?id=4311

this is another one i tried but she has small tits. http://www.******.com/php-en/memberDetail.php?id=4918

and this is a new one ive never tried before she just arrived i think. http://www.******.com/php-en/memberDetail.php?id=5501

I suggest just call the provided numbers and ask about overnight, hopefully you guys can communicate in either canto or mandarin since speaking english is really not the managers strong points.


as for other girls, i suggest stay away from this one http://www.******.com/php-en/memberDetail.php?id=5130

last time i tried her she is very nice before hand, and has great big tits and can deep throat well but complained about my penis size being too big and she wanted to give me a hand job instead, with the condom on!!

be safe guys!

HKferry.

Drainaps
10-31-04, 11:16
Greetings everybody,

Did some investigation in 141sex.com, and found a long list of HK buildings where these girls go about their business.

I concentrated on the Tsim Tsa Tsui area. Anyway, if you are looking for fun in other areas of Kowloon / HK, you can browse the site by area. How convenient!!.

Settled on Champagne Court Building, located in 16 Kimberley Road, just off Nathan and close to the Miramar Hotel.

The site mentioned parlors on 2/F, 3/F and 7/F. As mentioned in previous posts, the actual parlors are impossible to miss, even if all signs are written in Chinese. Look for the small fluorescent stars stuck on many doors.

Anyway, be aware that there are many offices and private appartments in the same buildings, sometimes just beside the parlors, so don't start calling at any door. This might upset the neighbours.

It is mostly a ring-see-ask operation. Mostly nice chicks, and no english spoken, except for the services rendered and the price.

Massage + HJ comes at around HKD 300. Expect to pay HKD 500 for massage + full service.

Service uses to be good, especially massage. Far more private and way less expensive than the upscale Saunas, and certainly less kinky than the former walk-up Mongkok Brothels.

The parlors use to be very clean, all with a shower, and most with a massage bed and a bed.

Executive summary: Worth a detour. Far superior bang for the buck when compared to (almost) anything else in HK. After this, I wouldn't dream of going to the classic HK side joints on Lockhart road, where you are (in my opinion) systematically (and skillfully) ripped off.

Be careful out there!!

Superforce99
10-31-04, 15:55
johnnykon666, I will be in hk next month for business. I plan on trying 141 too. I was wonder if at any time you felt unsafe. do I have to fear the police or gangs?

Totally safe, not even a hint of anything wrong.

JK

Beemer273
10-31-04, 22:26
Hi bros,

I went out on halloween night (saturday in HK) and had a great time. First headed up to Lai Kwai Fong but had to get out of taxi early since street was wall to wall people. Must have been 20,000 people out in the streets in costumes and partying. It was hilarious. We stayed around here for an hour or so but it was so crowded you couldn't move. Decided to move onto a bar over by the Happy Valley racetrack (Green Pea or something like that) that was supposed to be a happening place. It wasn't. We stayed for only one drink and then headed down to Wanchai.

Got to Wanchai around midnight and it was also packed. Both Dusk to Dawn and Joe Bananas were so full you couldn't get in (even if you wanted to pay the $100HK cover. Walked around until we popped down to Neptunes.

Neptures was that perfect crowd...you know the one where there is just enough room to move through the crowd but there is 2 girls for every guy. I spied a girl immediately when I walked in. She was breathtaking. Her name is Isabel, and I can only describe her as a filipino Janet Jackson (no, she didn't rip off one of her bra cups for me!). She had the most perfect mouth and a flat stomach with a six pack of ripples for abs. She spoke perfect english so we hit it off for the next few hours.

Took her back to my place after promising to pay her way too much...I should know better than to let my dick do the bartering :(

The good news and bad news. The good news is that her body was amazing and she lived up to the agreement to stay the whole night. The bad news was a CBJ and she was average in bed. I kicked her out about 6am after round #2 ...I needed some sleep. PM me if you want her contact info. She'll be around 2 more weeks.

Kabukicho
10-31-04, 23:43
I could have sworn I saw somewhere, not here necessarily, but on the board or online, either SZ or Hong Kong maps I can save to a mobile device.

Does anyone have the links?

Johnny218
11-01-04, 08:13
I just got my work schedule completed. I will be in Hong Kong during the first week of December. If any foreigners need help getting some chinese cat, let me know. I was there the last few years and did the mong kok area thing.

Major Shag
11-02-04, 02:26
HKFerry,

What was the damage for these overnight girls?

Major Shag.


overnight girls,

Guys ive got a lot of PM's from interested guys looking for overnight girls.

This is one of them, never tried her before but i know for a fact she can say at least one phrase in english which is "fuck me". http://www.******.com/php-en/memberDetail.php?id=4311

this is another one i tried but she has small tits. http://www.******.com/php-en/memberDetail.php?id=4918

And this is a new one I've never tried before she just arrived i think. http://www.******.com/php-en/memberDetail.php?id=5501

I suggest just call the provided numbers and ask about overnight, hopefully you guys can communicate in either canto or mandarin since speaking english is really not the managers strong points.

As for other girls, I suggest stay away from this one http://www.******.com/php-en/memberDetail.php?id=5130

last time i tried her she is very nice before hand, and has great big tits and can deep throat well but complained about my penis size being too big and she wanted to give me a hand job instead, with the condom on!!

Be safe guys!

HKferry.

OldAsiaHand
11-03-04, 12:05
Wolf,

What is the going rate for the Mongolian talent at the Holiday Inn? Thanks.

OAH

OldAsiaHand
11-03-04, 12:08
Fellow Mongers,

I have noticed a consistent increase of prices on the websites recently. What do you reckon is driving this inflation? Is there that much difference in the quality or service?

OAH

WooVictor
11-04-04, 14:31
The other day I bumped into a local forum on the Hong Kong sauna scene and there was much discussion of a new place called Sea Dragon Sauna in Causeway Bay. It was supposedly offering full service and its webpage on a Hong Kong adult service directory suggested any client who marked a masseuse for the second time will be “swallowed alive” – i.e. get a CIM service. There was also a lot of discussions on the “curved” or reclining massage bed, which was supposedly only to be found here. The comments also suggested that place was quite nicely decorated and so I decided to give it a try.

The place is located on the fifth floor of Causeway Bay Plaza phase II, where the New York cinema is located. First you walk up the escalators past the Hongkong Bank on the first floor and a restaurant on the second, where you take the elevators to the fifth. When I got there around 12:30 during lunch time there was a receptionist at hand on the second floor, fortunately no one else was around otherwise everybody would have heard that I was going to the fifth.

The lift opened to a small reception area and I was whisked into the locker area where I changed. The shower area was okay but there was no pool at all, just a steam room and a sauna room. The décor is cyber in a red colour but really is not my cup of tea. I stayed in the steam room for a little while and then went out to the lounge where I had a cup of tea and read a couple of magazines.

Business was evidently during lunch time as I had to wait for almost half an hour for my turn. My masseuse appeared to be about 30 years old, small and skinny, and not pretty at all. Her massage skill was so-so, and she was not very enthusiastic though friendly enough. After the regular massage she said there was only one extra service: BM.

She then told me to move over to the reclining massage bed, face down. But after a while I found that it was no fun as I had to hang on to the top of the bed to prevent me from slipping, and I can imagine the big guys with a huge tummy will have a tough time hanging in there. She massaged my backside with her tiny tits for a while, and then told me to flip over. What a relief – it was certainly much better reclining on it face up. And it was in this position that I learnt to appreciate the value of the reclining massage bed – for my mouth was almost level with her tits. She gave me a bit more body massage, and finished me off with a handjob.

Total damage was something like $680. Not too expensive, but I wasn’t happy with the quality of my masseuse and probably won’t go back again.
.

Lance Alot
11-05-04, 12:34
OAH,

I have noticed quite a few changes with 141 pricing recently.

The changes started with a general price increase with ******.com about 6 to 9 months ago when it raised its minimum search criteria to HK$350 from HK$300 (and the all the prices along with it).

In addition I have seen a big increase in the number of ladies doing 'hotel reservations' and their pricing starts at a minimum of HK$500 and goes up quite steeply from there.

I also get the sense (and this is just my subjective opinion) that there is some segmentation in the market going on with sites like best161 charging higher prices as they seem to be bringing in some great looking ladies.

****** seems to be holding a middle to top end position whilst 161sex and lady168 looking at the middle to lower end of the market with quite a few ladies advertising at less than HK$300 for basic service.

I think Hong Kong's booming economy (GDP forecast of 12.1 %) is driving up rentals and the price of goods and services (including 141). I have seen a few ladies move to less expensive locations recently as well.

Lots of China (and other) tourists here as well and I am sure they are sampling some of the local delights, so increased demand usually leads to higher prices.

L.A.

Wolf
11-06-04, 02:46
OldAsiaHand,

Prices and mileage vary a lot. from HK$ 700 for the lowest I got up to 2,500 for the highest quote I received. Average is around HK$1,000.
Obviously, the later at night, the cheaper the price, as they just want the last for the road or just get at least one this night.
Negotiation skills requested. Satisfaction guaranteed.
Most of them are all nighters. And at least 3 I new are 3 holers...
Not the most gorgeous faces but not bad at all. Quite nice bodies in general. Not on the skiny side but never overweighted.
It is really a must try. At least once. Best ones are in Beijing, or better, in Ulaan Batar.
Shall be back tio Hong Kong in about 2 weeks (around 20/22).
If you want a herd hunt, I am with you.

Enjoy !

Wolf

FurryFriend
11-07-04, 13:54
I'm currently in Hong Kong and have been loitering at the Mongkok brothal district every other night. The scene here on the corner of Soy and Shanghai Streets is as jumping as ever, both in the quality and quantity of streetwalkers. I visit Hong Kong 2-3 times and year and never miss an opportunity to sample the services here. I've been paying $340-$360 HKD per 45 minute session, by far the best value for mongering in the territory! The best time to visit is between midnight and 2AM. Although the streets are still full of people, everyone left at that time of the evening are providers, pimps or patrons. It amazes me how some of you are still going to saunas and massage parlours and paying over double for inferior services. Besides, there's something alluring about standing on the corner, preying on the streetwalkers and following them into a brothal. The hunt is almost as fun as the meal!

However, there was an article in yesterday's South China Morning Post (SCMP) that predicted the eventual demise of the Mongkok sex industry. Recently, construction of a massive commercial plaza was completed just blocks from Mongkok's brothal district. The huge complex, named Langham Plaza, occupies almost four city blocks and will consist of upscale retail stores, commercial offices, a world-class luxury hotel and a theatre complex. I walked by the other day. This thing is absolutely massive and reportedly was planned and constructed over a 15 year period. The SCMP predicts once this plaza becomes fully operational, it will become a new trendy place for upscale Hong Kongers to hang out.

How does this hurt the Mongkok sex industry? The desirability of living and working at or near Langham Plaza will cause rents to rise in surrounding neighborhoods. This affects Mongkok brothals in two ways, according to the SCMP. First, the brothals will be unable to pay higher rents demanded by landlords and would be forced to flee. (In fact, I noticed several brothals near the corner of Soy and Shanghai have already closed.) Second, with rising rent, poor residents will begin moving out, replaced by wealther residents. Wealther people are more likely to pressure police to crack down on vice to protect property values.

However, I'm optimistic that the brothals will survive. There is simply too much money to be made for the triads and prostitues to abandon ship. The industry may move south, into Yaumatei, where there are already brothals and streetwalkers around the Temple Street Night Market. Money always finds a way.

I'm in Hong Kong for a few more days. If anyone has any questions, I can help you find some answers before I leave.

Johnny218
11-08-04, 08:40
I will be in Hong Kong early December on business for a few weeks. Anybody want to hook up and do the Mong Kok scene? I tried it last year and was satisfied.

Kabukicho
11-12-04, 03:50
Anyone know if we can view this whole HK forum in one scrollable page instead?

Kev 3X
11-13-04, 15:10
Wolf,

Where did you find these women who would take 3 holes?

Kabukicho
11-14-04, 01:45
FF, interesting article you posted thanks... so we got about 15yrs max b4 mongkok is over.

FurryFriend
11-14-04, 17:28
FF, interesting article you posted thanks... so we got about 15yrs max b4 mongkok is over.

15 years? The thing is already built! They started planning for it back in 1990. The hotel finally opened to travellers in late August.

http://www.langhamhotels.com/langhamplace/hongkong/

From their website:

"Hong Kong, August, 2004 –The Langham Place Hotel, Mongkok, Hong Kong, the new hotel by Langham Hotels International, is Kowloon’s first new five-star Hotel to open in over a decade. The 665-room 42-storey hotel is located in the heart of urban Mongkok, one of the most cosmopolitan and upbeat districts of Hong Kong offering the best of market shopping right at your very doorstep."

I'd say in 3-4 years, the area will become entirely gentrified and most, if not all, of the vice operations will leave. Gone will be the brothels, karaoke bars and saunas. In will come Starbucks, Christian Dior and Spagos.

Don't worry though, the brothels will NEVER be over in Hong Kong! It will simply migrate elsewhere. Hong Kong has always been about capitalism and change. Both will ensure the survival of the sex trade there.

Kabukicho
11-15-04, 00:34
Ah, Iknew something was fishy. People were talking about a hotel in Mongkok yet I couldn't place my finger on it. Now I know. It was that big construction site I remember from last year. What a shame.

Is that all mirrored brothel that lead with I think the KFC on one side the street, then the mcdonalds on the other side of the intersection, still around. The post was last year or something.

Netsik
11-15-04, 02:13
Nov 11

Arrived HK from Foshan China. As decribed in the previous posts visited the ****** sites and decided for the building Fook Kiu Mansion. I wanted to visit one of the girls that could speak English but she did not open the door. So I knocked the next door and Daisy opened me the door. You can see her info at

http://www.******.com/php-en/memberDetail.php?id=4902

She is very sweet, speaks good English, very clean body, and perfect attitude. We started with body rubbing, good cbj, polishing marbles, cg, missionary, doggy, and finish with cg. I highly recommend.

Wolf
11-15-04, 04:17
Kev 3 Ex,
Pay a visit one of these evenings to the Golden Mine in Holiday Inn Kowloon and try to pick up one of the Mongol girls there. Don't be afraid to take the ones that appear more on they late 30s.
They will provide a real full night full service 3 holes in 1....

Enjoy

SE Asia Joe
11-15-04, 04:20
can y'all give me a bit of advise? i am trying to set up a lady friend at a location 'reachabable' from hong kong and have pretty well decided that the futian area is probably my best bet as i could get to the huangang border taxi ranks within an hour from leaving my office in hong kong.

is my budget of about rmb1,000 - 1,800 realistic for a one or 2 bedroom set up, fully or at least partially furnished within some sort of gated estate? my main concern is of course safety - for my lady friend as well as for myself. i've heard of some pretty horrifying stuff - robbery, [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) - and especially blacmail by either some of the hard core criminal elements or even the l.e./guangan themselves. i've posted a similar question on the shenzhen board and trying my luck here as i would think that there are lots of hong kong guys who probably have experience about this matter. i would as such appreciate any and all suggestions/advise you can offer me - especially specific names/details of a particular building or estate that is safe!

many thanks,

se asia joe

Cloude
11-15-04, 07:21
Yea guys, it's gonna be a change in a few years after that hotel is all finished up. I just stayed there this past September for 2 weeks. It's definately the best hotel in Kowloon. Only half of the hotel was finished. The floor I stayed on just got finished the day before I got in. It got everything you need and it looks real nice. Not to mention there were some really cute girls that worked at the receptions desk. Sounds kinda like an advertisement, but it was really nice.

I recommend it to anyone looking for a hotel to all the action. Shopping is only minutes away and the mtr (subway) is also a couple of minutes away. If you read some of my previous reports, the brothels are just a minute away up one block. There's nothing like knowing you can get your nuts busted so close by. Like furryfriend said, it's nice to just stand on the corner late at night and watch the the young honeys in bikini tops and short skirts walking around. Makes you just want to bang each and everyone one of them.

The mongkok are will definately change after Langham Place is finished. The brothels will always be around, maybe not in that area, but they'll be around.

Cloude

Vinny_Viagra
11-15-04, 14:37
Nice report thank you. Is there a way to get reports in English?


Overnight girls,

Guys ive got a lot of PM's from interested guys looking for overnight girls.

this is one of them, never tried her before but i know for a fact she can say at least one phrase in english which is "fuck me". http://www.******.com/php-en/memberDetail.php?id=4311

This is another one i tried but she has small tits. http://www.******.com/php-en/memberDetail.php?id=4918

And this is a new one ive never tried before she just arrived i think. http://www.******.com/php-en/memberDetail.php?id=5501

I suggest just call the provided numbers and ask about overnight, hopefully you guys can communicate in either canto or mandarin since speaking english is really not the managers strong points.

As for other girls, i suggest stay away from this one http://www.******.com/php-en/memberDetail.php?id=5130

Last time I tried her she is very nice before hand, and has great big tits and can deep throat well but complained about my penis size being too big and she wanted to give me a hand job instead, with the condom on!!

Be safe guys!

HKferry.

Kabukicho
11-15-04, 23:53
What is Viagra or Cialis called in Canto, say if i wanted to walk into a pharmacy off the street and pick some up? And what price is a good price for each? Much appreciated here.

Tocsin
11-16-04, 11:50
Though the saunas may be more expensive than the street/brothel action, they do have their merits. They are very relaxing and you can usual pop off twice in the hour or two they give you. Plus, you can't beat the service at some of the nicer ones like Empire on Portland Street in Mongkok.

rplusl
11-16-04, 18:15
With only one night in HK I took advise of another post and visited Noble. Paid HK 1300 up front. Shower, sauna, jacuuzis were okay and clean but not especially luxurious compared to others. Bathing area was rather small.

After bathing I went to the relaxing room, drank tea, and waited a few minutes for the massage service to invite me to their section. I asked to choose my own girl, which surprised them. Had choice of 5 girls, none of whom was gorgeous or especially young. I picked number 8, the one with the friendliest smile and most developed tits (approx 34b).

Had a decent but not great massage for 40 minutes. Her trick was to walk on my back as much as possible, which was easiet type of massage for her to do. Friendly but talked too much once she found out I spoke Mandarin (most girls there are from Mainland).

Massage improved considerable when erotic part began -- slow ass massage with me face down. This was her best talent. Proceeded to full Thai-style body massage but with too much fake moaning. Main event with condom was okay but again too much fake moaning.

Bottom line: service was pleasant though not top rate. Place is clean and safe. Probably not worth HK 1300, but if you don't want to waste time searching in Mongkok it's okay. Sauna, jacuzzi were relaxing, too.

Stopped in to Golden Mile bar on way back to my hotel and was immediately greeted by several VERY friendly girls. Felt a little sorry I didn't go there first. Well, next time!

Acer V
11-16-04, 18:42
Tocsin,
tu shea mate! I say that sometimes one has to sit back and enjoy the finer things in life. A good sauna and a shag is, well, hard to beat. I also apprecaiate the service at the better establishments. I have yet to try Empire but it is on my hit list.

FurryFriend,
Sorry mate, but 10 years ago people were saying the same thing when Times Square in Wanchai/Causeway Bay was being built. It is still one of the biggest brothel districts on Hong Kong Island. You are right about one thing. The scene won't disappear. Expect it to be around long after the paint starts pealing on Langham Place! Mong Kok might become a bit more low-key but it will take much more than Great Eagle Development to push the brothels out of the district!

FurryFriend
11-16-04, 20:04
acerv,

i think there's a difference between the sex trade in causeway bay and mongkok. the causeway bay sex industry consists mostly of higher priced saunas that can withstand higher rents when times square gentified the area. but mongkok brothels are rinky-dink operations that charges a paultry $40 usd per session in seedy little rooms. some of these little operations may not withstand the economic toll of gentrification.

i do agree that the said impact of langham plaza were overstated by the south china morning post. hong kong is a city where the rich and poor reside as neighbors, where modern residential skyscrapers towers next to dilapidated buildings. so there's no reason why langtham will drastically alter the mongkok landscape. nevertheless, i don't doubt some of the vice operations in mongkok will fold or relocate.

regardless, whether it changes much or not, here's everybody last chance to experience the mongkok brothels before anything possible happens to them!

Kabukicho
11-17-04, 00:12
Tocsin, Portland and where, and does it say Empire in Chinese or English, I don't remember this place. Anyway I'm going next week so I'd be ready to check it out.

Much thanks.

EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions to add standard capitalization throughout the text. To avoid delays in future reports, please refrain from using the "chat room" style of writing with no capital lettering. Thanks!

Kabukicho
11-17-04, 00:13
Tocsin,

FurryFriend,

Sorry mate, but 10 years ago people were saying the same thing when Times Square in Wanchai/Causeway Bay was being built. It is still one of the biggest brothel districts on Hong Kong Island. You are right about one thing. The scene won't disappear. Expect it to be around long after the paint starts pealing on Langham Place! Mong Kok might become a bit more low-key but it will take much more than Great Eagle Development to push the brothels out of the district!Hmm... I'm embarrased, I didn't know Wanchai has got brothels, you mean walkup ones like Mongkok or just 141 kinds which I do know.

Wolf
11-17-04, 05:05
Tocsin,
Could you share the exact position of Empire Sauna ?
I would be eager to pay a visit by next week.
Please provide landmark so that I can find it easier.

Many thanks in advance

Wolf

SE Asia Joe
11-17-04, 05:06
Guys,

Have lots of respect/admiration for a whole bunch of you guys regarding experience/wisdom on the fairer sex. My question is - where in your opinion is the best place to keep a PRC G/F - when one is based/working in HKG. I'm leaning towards keeping her in Futian district as I can get accross the border from my Hong Kong side office within an hour on the bus from Wanchai or else at ShaTauKok - which is reachable within an hour from boarding the Kowloon Tong bus. Of course the Wanchai bus is more frequent - every 15 minutes versus every hour, but on ShaTauKok's plus side is that the place 'seems' more gentle than the conmen/crooks/crooked LE infested Futian/Luohu area..... and is I think a bit cheaper. My main concern though is SAFETY - both for my lady friend as well as for myself against all the nefarious going ons that dominates "Playing" in china - I've heard of some really Baaaad stuff happening in China on this score!

Anyway, I would certainly welcome ALL of you guys' suggestions and advise

Thanks,

SE Asia Joe

Jbecker
11-17-04, 05:48
Wolf,

Maybe this will help

http://www.best161.com/eng/saunadetails.php?shopid=45

I can recommend it too, sorry, the page is slow.

Solbre
11-17-04, 17:46
I had few hours to spend in HK, decided to take the Macau package
Last minute decision - too the ferry to Zhuhai and then the taxi to Dragon Union hotel, ask for Yan Xiao Mei ( Sauna manager mobile 131 381 42199 )
Beautifull gals, nice and clean rooms
The cost is 340 for round trip of the ferry. 198 for the room and 300 for the gal
90 minutes of full service, worse every $

Kabukicho
11-17-04, 23:51
Yes, info on Cross street would be great. I'm there next week.

RasSpewtin
11-18-04, 03:21
Guys:

I have a real sweet Filipina girl lined up in Hong Kong for the weekend, but have been unable to book a hotel room because of the big convention in town. The only place that I could find was 1,900 per night plus taxes, and that is a little rich for my blood. I am in Shenzhen, and she is unable to travel there.

If anyone has a connection with a hotel in Central or Kowloon area, or has a room available and wants to make some coin, please send me a PM with your contact info. I would like to get a room for Friday and Saturday night if the price is around 1,200 max, or only for Saturday night if it is more than 1,200.

I would really appreciate the help, as this girl is just too sweet to pass by.

Raz

Kabukicho
11-18-04, 03:38
What's a good price for viagra in Mongkok, and how do you say it in Chinese?

SE Asia Joe
11-18-04, 04:35
gents,

i have lots of respect for you guys' experience and knowledge on matters of the fairer sex. now i need your advise -

where do you think i should keep my prc g/f? of paramount importance is safety for both my young lady as well as of course for myself. i've heard of some pretty horifying things that the various nefarious characters in shenzhen has perpetrated on us guys from hong kong - from robbery, [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), murder to blackmail etc by both "black" (gangsters) as well as "white" (l.e.) gangs. second consideration is easiest access to her - i'm on hong kong side and figure that i can hop on the bus in wanchai and be in futian within an hour or else, jump in a taxi to kowloon tong to catch the bus to sha tau ko and reach there within the hour. wanchai-huangang buses go every 15-30 minutes while the kowloon tong-sha tau kok ones go every hour. third consideration would be price - and i've figured a budget of about rmb 2,000/month to rent a decent apartment with ok (for shenzhen) security.

any suggestions/advise

many thanks

se asia joe

Acer V
11-18-04, 04:50
Hi Ras,
Try either the President Park on Hennessy Road in Causeway Bay - or - the YWCA up on McDonnald Road. Sorry, I don't have phone numbers. There is also a chain of love hotels that are of good quality called Villa Victoria. Many locations all over the city. You can just walk in. Almost guaranteed to have a room. The one I often use is directly across from the Tin Hau MTR station. These may not be luxurious but if you're really in a bind they will work.

Good Luck!

SE Asia Joe
11-18-04, 09:07
I'm looking at a junk fax advertising various hotel rooms that have been block booked by Kebi Group Ltd and the re-marketed at prices around HK$500@ inclusive of govt tax and service charges - i.e. Ibis N.P. $420, emperor HV 530, Newton $540 Rennaissance Harbour View $990. Their phone number is 852-2110-2113, fax 2110-2011, http://www.kebigroup.com, e-mail info@kebigroup.com

Good luck

Johnny218
11-18-04, 16:57
I had few hours to spend in HK, decided to take the Macau package
Last minute decision - too the ferry to Zhuhai and then the taxi to Dragon Union hotel, ask for Yan Xiao Mei ( Sauna manager mobile 131 381 42199 )
Beautifull gals, nice and clean rooms.

The cost is 340 for round trip of the ferry. 198 for the room and 300 for the gal
90 minutes of full service, worse every $Is all this in Hong Kong money? I might give Macau a try, never been there. Is there a lot of action?

RasSpewtin
11-18-04, 17:41
I received some great input on my hotel emergency from Brain Damaged. He even had two travel agents working on hotel queries at the same time. BD, you are a standup guy! Thanks again.

But these mothers were booked solid; even if they gave you a booking number when you booked online, they would reply later with a message that read something line "I am so sorry sir, but we are as full as a Thai virgin with African cock, and your white ass is shit out of luck." F*cking 3G conference; who needs GPS anyway?

I also got some suggestions from Acer V and Pac Blue. But when I contacted the hotels via online or by phone, they were packed as solid as a bear with a concrete diet.

So after all the frustration, I called up my Filipina sweetie, and told her that she should tell her roommate to get the hell out and get otherwise occcupied on Sunday afternoon. She did just that, and we are gonna burn that mother down.

In hindsight, I have been travelling to Hong Kong alot lately, but I have never seen hotel occupancy rates like this before. I guess the SARS scare is really over, and HK has gone back to being the international hub again.

Next time, I am gonna bring my backpack and tent. It's the Canadian thing to do.

Raz

Kabukicho
11-19-04, 03:55
I thought the empire sauna was said to be on portland and something. Was that wrong then? This baby is on Jordan it looks like.

Brain Damaged
11-19-04, 04:20
Ras,

If you still want a hotel, one of my travel agents just found two nights in Central.

PM sent.

Cheers,

BD

Kabukicho
11-21-04, 15:42
Forget about SP hangouts for a sec, does anyone know where do regular HK citizens hang out during fri/sat night? What neighborhoods draw the young crowds etc?

Hari Hara
11-21-04, 21:06
Anyone know where I can get some viagra in Hong Kong ?

I will be there in two weeks.

Harihara

RasSpewtin
11-22-04, 04:40
Turns out that my Filipina sweetie’s slave driver (ooops, I mean her employer) had her working on a spastic schedule for most of the weekend, so a hotel stay was not warranted. That being said, thanks again to all who contributed to some hotel stay ideas for future trips.

So I decided on a day trip from Shenzhen to Hong Kong, and hopped the first Sunday morning ferry. She met me upon arrival at the terminal, and was looking cute and horny. Yummy. We hopped onto the MTR and headed over to her apartment.

I was expecting to see a small apartment with a bathroom and bedroom, but instead we climbed several flights of stairs into a small boarding house that could only be described as absolute squalor. She led me into a tiny bedroom, where 3 of her friends were already packed into their bunk beds, watching a Filipino movie. I felt really bad for her, as she works 12 hours a day 5 or 6 days a week, and has to live like this.

I suggested that we go for a walk and see the sites of Wan Chai, and she happily agreed. This is where I started to learn that as much as Filipinas like sex, they won’t talk about it. After I suggested that we try to find a short-time hotel, she blushed and looked the other way. However, as we walked, we just happened to pass by a ST hotel after walking for only 5 minutes. The Beverly Hotel on Lockhart Road was glaring at us, just half a block ahead. Up the elevator we went, and sure enough, a room could be had for the afternoon, for 400 HKD. The bed and the bathroom were clean, the bed lighting was tacky, the carpet was filthy, and I was too horny to think. I paid and we dismissed the maid from the room.

We only left the hotel for an hour that afternoon, to get some food for energy. She squeezed 3 pops out of me in record time, and with the kind of genuine enthusiasm that warrants 3 pops for sure. She would not offer oral, but really enjoyed receiving. I think that this may be a little typical for Filipina girls, according to some of the reading that I have done on the AC pages.

All in all a very nice way to spend an afternoon, and I left for my return trip as she pouted in the shadows. I felt kinda bad about that, too.

Raz

Kabukicho
11-22-04, 06:20
Hi Ras,
Try either the President Park on Hennessy Road in Causeway Bay - or - the YWCA up on McDonnald Road. Sorry, I don't have phone numbers. There is also a chain of love hotels that are of good quality called Villa Victoria. Many locations all over the city. You can just walk in. Almost guaranteed to have a room. The one I often use is directly across from the Tin Hau MTR station. These may not be luxurious but if you're really in a bind they will work.

Good Luck!Crap, I too am in a bind. Will be arriving HK w/o a place to stay... might not check this board again before i arrive either.

Tin Hau, is what neighborhood?

Zarkoff
11-22-04, 17:13
Hey, where'd the Lucky Sauna go???!!!???!! Arrived in HK and headed out to my favorite sauna this evening. Holly massage oil batman, now its the Sands, with a complete makeover and all new staff. Also all new prices. I was told many of the massage girls are the same and the massage rooms haven't been changed, but everything else has had a complete makeover.

Prices are now $638HK for body massage or $888HK for FS. Body massage includes topless massage with the breasts and HJ. Girls have new outfits (better looking, really) but they've gone now into the higher end sauna cost. Lucky was a great deal for the price but now its pretty much just like all the others.

Ah well, the girls come and go and go and come and so do the saunas I guess. I guess I'll need to find a place closer to where we usually stay. Gonna try Macau tomorrow with a packaged deal.

All About Bob
11-23-04, 02:51
Hi all

Just wandered if anyone had seen this girl and what information anyone had on her, she looks pretty good.

thanks in advance

White Snake
11-23-04, 15:21
acerv,

i think there's a difference between the sex trade in causeway bay and mongkok. the causeway bay sex industry consists mostly of higher priced saunas that can withstand higher rents when times square gentified the area. but mongkok brothels are rinky-dink operations that charges a paultry $40 usd per session in seedy little rooms. some of these little operations may not withstand the economic toll of gentrification.

i do agree that the said impact of langham plaza were overstated by the south china morning post. hong kong is a city where the rich and poor reside as neighbors, where modern residential skyscrapers towers next to dilapidated buildings. so there's no reason why langtham will drastically alter the mongkok landscape. nevertheless, i don't doubt some of the vice operations in mongkok will fold or relocate.

regardless, whether it changes much or not, here's everybody last chance to experience the mongkok brothels before anything possible happens to them!

looks like i need to go to hong kong again before the mongkok brothels shut down. fuck!

Kabukicho
11-23-04, 17:35
Anyone know where I can get some viagra in Hong Kong ?

I will be there in two weeks.

HariharaWalkin pharmacies

Phuquer
11-24-04, 03:03
I will be in the Shenzhen/Hong Kong area for about 4 days next month. I have the option of spending most of my time either in Shenzhen or Hong Kong. Where would you guys recommend I would have the best time for my money (between the 2 places)? I have been to Guangzhou for business, but this is my first time to Shenzhen and Hong Kong, and time is limited so I am trying to make the most of the little time I have. Thanks for your suggestions.

Waisiubo
11-24-04, 09:32
11-17-04 16:38

Kabukicho What's a good price for viagra in Mongkok, and how do you say it in Chinese?

Kabukicho,

Viagra in chinese is "Wai Gor"

Good luck.

Zarkoff
11-24-04, 16:39
Tried to go on the cheap (always my biggest failing). Figured I could get away with a "body massage", or massage + HJ for less then a regular sauna place, since my personal favorite went higher end. Just an overall mistake.

Went to the Champaign Building on 16 Kimberly Road, across from the Miramar Center. Lots of 141 girls on 7/F, 3/F, and 2/F. You don't even need to see the pics first if you want to just ring and then turn them down if you don't like the looks or lay of the land. Easy to tell which cubicles are 141 types and they all have signs hanging that lets you know if they're busy.

First lady that answered a door looked promising initially. Agreed to body massage for $400HK. Too much money but I was tired and just gave in. Knew I should have backed out but just couldn't make the brain follow through. I think the fact that she spoke passable english helped (I don't speak Chinese).

The room is the size of a small box of matches. Didn't have a massage table (another give away but I was blind). Soon found out my 6'2" frame doesn't fit on the 5' bed. Cripe, this isn't going well. Basic help in the "shower" was good and enjoyable. Then she had me lie on the bed and "danced" for me. Sorry, I just don't get off on armpit hair and this one had the lot. Should have throw her a 100, grabbed my clothes, and went to McDonalds. But noooooooo.... still thought there was a chance.

Massage was marginal, although she did try. She gave me the agreed upon time and in the end, the happy ending was much less then happy. Lets just say I had to conjur up a lot of images to get Mr. Happy to cooperate.

The moral of the story is: If you want a quick FS and my issues aren't your issues, then I'm sure it would be worth the time, maybe the money. Round eye price for FS was $600HK. But if you really want a massage, you might as well pick one of the many many saunas and enjoy.

Kevarms
11-24-04, 22:48
Hey guys,

I'll be back in HK for Christmas and New Year and plan to try out a lot of the 141 girls. Just wondering if it will be business as usual over that period, or do a lot of the girls take a break then?

Would also like to know exactly what 141 means by 'hotel reservation'. They come to me, or I have to meet them at their choice of hotel ?

TIA

Dorasan
11-24-04, 23:01
Don't generalize too much and don't confuse between dup (hammer your bones) and body massage.

Say in 141 there are two cataglories, one for 141 and one for dup which can also be called massage. The dup are what you get in saunas. Usually these dup girls has different packages - dup only, dup + HJ (hand job), + BM (body massage) or + ML (make love). So massage can be confusing. What is clear is that they usually state the time for the full package including ML will be at least 60 min to 80 min. That would be a decent massage otherwise they wouldn't last that long. In Asia if they are able to give you a 1 hr massage it will usually be good, at least a lot better than in USA.

If looks are importat to you, the 141 girls are usually better looking for the money. In saunas and night clubs, the cut of the house is deep, while most money goes directly to the 141 girls. If you are not local long enough, the internet helps a lot if you know how to use it. At the door there's no way to tell whether a girl is a good dup or just 141 sex.

FurryFriend
11-25-04, 08:55
Forget about SP hangouts for a sec, does anyone know where do regular HK citizens hang out during fri/sat night? What neighborhoods draw the young crowds etc?LOL! They hang out almost EVERYWHERE on a Friday/Saturday night! The heaviest concentration is Mongkok, Tsimshatsui and Causeway Bay. When I say that the streets are flooded with people, I'm not exaggerating. Hong Kong is so densely populated that even if only 10% of kids are out for the evening, the streets become absolutely packed. Some parts look like New York City's Times Square on New Year's Eve.

In Mongkok, go near the intersection of Soy and Tung Choi Street. In Tsimshatsui, go to the promanade, the location of the Avenue of the Stars, next to the Star Ferry terminal. In Causeway Bay, go near the intersection of Jardine's Bazaar and Hennessy Road. For an upscale crowd frequented by expatriates, try Lan Kwai Fong in Central.

Frequent Flier
11-25-04, 19:36
Kabukicho,

Lai Kwan Fong is one of the local places for the regular crowds and the after work type and weekend partying. You will also find some girls working the bars as well, but most of the people there are there for the bars and to meet friends, drink, eat and party. Lai Kwan Fong is in Central and if you take the MTR to the Central MTR Station you can find a map or sign that will show you the way.

The area is located on a steep hill that must be difficult to climb when you get very inebriated. I always joke that they put the bars there so that the police could just sit at the bottom and pick up the drunks after they pass out and roll to the bottom of the hill.

Many bars and places to eat in this area.

FF

Member #2634
11-26-04, 10:26
Hi fellow mongers,

Coming in to hong kong on 13th from mumbai. staying at the sheraton kowloon. need help in figuring out where to monger and for how much. All fellow mongers can pm me for meeting up for a drink at the hotel.

Kev 3X
11-26-04, 14:47
For some reason all the "Find me" pics on sex 141 (at least for TST) seem to not be loading. Can someone let them know so they can fix it? Not sure where I would do this as I only speak english.

Also, for the "Hotel" girls do you need to call and make an apointment? Not sure this is much of an option for me as my limit of only speaking English.

Dorasan
11-27-04, 14:48
Hey guys,

Would also like to know exactly what 141 means by 'hotel reservation'. They come to me, or I have to meet them at their choice of hotel ?

TIASome agents pick and bring some Northern (PRC) girls to work in a hotel room for short term, like a week or a few. They see all their clients in the room where they stay. Some local (HK) girls work this way for a short term. The agents also bring some Korean girls and East European girls. For the girls's security, responsible agents will try to spot you from afar when you arrive at the lobby, in case you cause any troubles. I guess they could be arranged to come to your hotel at a price, but that's not what they are setup to do.

Northern girls are highly recommended, while the others charges more just because they are of different nationality. The majority only do safe sex, and they don't have much extra ordinary skills. But they are very good raw materials, expect a young hard body appropriate to their ages, responsive nipples, and juicy.

Bill Lee
11-27-04, 15:11
Hi everybody.

I'm flying into HK on a December Friday, arriving at 11:30 p.m. I'm trying to get into GZ.

I checked last year's schedule CTC and Gogo bus schedules and the last buses into GZ is 11 p.m.

Does anyone know of the train schedule in GZ after 11:30 p.m. on a Friday and and after 12:00 a.m. on Saturday? Does anyone have the names of the stops to get off and on to do the transfers? And also give me a link to the train schedule in English?

Does anybody know of any alternative route in GZ at such late hours?

If all else fails to get into GZ on a Friday late night, how about a recommendation for a HK hotel convenient from the bus stop at the airport? Please give me the bus number too and where to get off for the recommended hotel. I know some basic Cantonese.

And convenient to get into GZ the next morning? I can live with a three star and up hotel. But the hotel should be close to the bus or train leaving for GZ. I would prefer the train. Never tried it before.

Thanks in advance.

Bill Lee

Dorasan
11-27-04, 19:33
HKG is perhaps the newest major international airport in the world. It has always been the major Asia hub. In addition, there are at least 2 daily flights to LA, and 2 to NY, for one airline Cathay Pacific alone. The airport may be a bit large. There are two meetings points A and B. The departure area entrance is also divided into North and South. You may need a train to get from the plane to the terminal central. But the excellent signposts are of course truly bilingual and you won’t get lost.

There’s not much to say otherwise except that they have smoking lounges, aka gas chamber. HK became a seriously anti-smoking city. Not in any public transport. Not even outside hospitals. Many restaurants still have smoking areas but in the decent ones rarely anyone smokes. The price of over $30 HKD a pack does the trick - more than that in USA. Those who smoke in a crowded restaurant are viewed as anti-social, most likely tourist from PRC (People’s Republic of China). Outdoor cafe’s are rare, at most with several seats on the outside. It’s almost impossible to find a place to sit down and smoke, unless you are at home. Or inside the airport.

There’s one smoking lounge at the arrival area. There are at least several in the departure area after you cleared custom and security checks. If I know that I would have gone there much earlier rather at the last minute. There are no wireless broadband internet connection in the arrival area but some within the departure area. Another reason to get there earlier. With many duty free shops, candy shops, coffee shops for example, you won’t get too miserable.

The fastest way out is the train, which is part of the MTR (underground) system. At $90 HKD for the train ride, the buses are a lot cheaper at $20 or less, which is also rather frequent. You can get a train ticket at the automatic machine by the train station entrance. For the buses you pay when you enter the bus. Most buses belong to the same company that provide all the public transport via buses in HK. There is an office at the bus terminal that you can ask, of course they speak English. The route signs are bilingual and clear, though there are many stops. If you don’t already know what bus to take, it’s rather complicated as there are two many of them with overlapping routes. And then there are taxi in the same area when you walk out of the airport following the signs.

There is another bus company that specialize in airport buses, including some out of HK. For these buses there is another office there that you can enquire and buy a ticket. The office is the 1st thing that you see when you walk out of the airport following the bus and taxi sign.

Gyaos
11-27-04, 21:24
For those who want a good cheap sauna massage, I can only recommend more than enough my favourite Jordan Sauna. There it is $400, $500 and $600 respectively. I've never been let down there. And it's 90 minutes, no ripoff.

This review if for Noble Sauna. I really liked the place, but when it was HJ time, the massage girl actually tried to sting me with a $798 charge. I told her that Body Massage was $798 and she said okay. When I was there, the Mamasan said "I can only tell you the price" as inside were two Chinese men sitting there in robes. Maybe she was nervous, or maybe it was trying to "get me". Nevertheless, the place was really clean and nice, the people were nice and I got what I wanted. The total ended up being $788, so much for $798 stuff.

The staff at the lockers were really talkative and, naturally, wanted a tip at the end. Jordan Sauna never asks for a tip, but it is nice to do so. But Noble Sauna is more high end and I left the $50 HKD. The pools were the right temperature and I used the steam room. Boy that was a hot room! Inside was a large lounge and I drank orange juice and water. Believe it, they gave me hot water and I returned it. Mind you, that was strange! I recommend when they ask you "Have you been here before", say "Yes" even if you haven't, because we mongers know the score and how the game is played.

My massage was okay. The door has a big window, which I think is regulations. Life would be better if the windows were smaller and they hang the robes over it at playtime, much like other saunas. In this case, she just lowered the light. At HJ time, she was ready to give me a basic one. I made her give me a fantastic balls massage, one of the best yet! I still want to experience that in Bangkok, but this was really good. Eventually I saw her tits. I wish these girls would take everything off.

So over all, it was good. I liked it. Anyone know good saunas in Hong Kong that has the girls take off all their clothes without FS, it would be appreciated. Otherwise, Macau is the spot for that!

To conclude, I'm finally communcating with an actual girl from Hong Kong! I

Gyaos
11-27-04, 21:26
For those who want a good cheap sauna massage, I can only recommend more than enough my favourite Jordan Sauna. There it is $400, $500 and $600 respectively. I've never been let down there. And it's 90 minutes, no ripoff.

This review if for Noble Sauna. I really liked the place, but when it was HJ time, the massage girl actually tried to sting me with a $798 charge. I told her that Body Massage was $798 and she said okay. When I was there, the Mamasan said "I can only tell you the price" as inside were two Chinese men sitting there in robes. Maybe she was nervous, or maybe it was trying to "get me". Nevertheless, the place was really clean and nice, the people were nice and I got what I wanted. The total ended up being $788, so much for $798 stuff.

The staff at the lockers were really talkative and, naturally, wanted a tip at the end. Jordan Sauna never asks for a tip, but it is nice to do so. But Noble Sauna is more high end and I left the $50 HKD. The pools were the right temperature and I used the steam room. Boy that was a hot room! Inside was a large lounge and I drank orange juice and water. Believe it, they gave me hot water and I returned it. Mind you, that was strange! I recommend when they ask you "Have you been here before", say "Yes" even if you haven't, because we mongers know the score and how the game is played.

My massage was okay. The door has a big window, which I think is regulations. Life would be better if the windows were smaller and they hang the robes over it at playtime, much like other saunas. In this case, she just lowered the light. At HJ time, she was ready to give me a basic one. I made her give me a fantastic balls massage, one of the best yet! I still want to experience that in Bangkok, but this was really good. Eventually I saw her tits. I wish these girls would take everything off.

So over all, it was good. I liked it. Anyone know good saunas in Hong Kong that has the girls take off all their clothes without FS, it would be appreciated. Otherwise, Macau is the spot for that!

To conclude, I'm finally communcating with an actual girl from Hong Kong! Isn't that amazing? Reality, it's natural stuff and I like her alot. When I get back to Hong Kong, I plan to date her. I haven't been with a real girl for a decade, I'm so busy! But if it works out, the mongering is put on hold! Yikes! I better take a trip to Bangkok, before the date!

Noble Sauna is 3/4 Gyaos Approved.

Dorasan
11-28-04, 04:35
Getting around:

The MTR (Mass Transit Railway), underground train, is excellent and most likely all that you need. Fully computerized and extremely easy to use. Words are bilingual (English and Chinese) and announcements are trilingual (English, Mandarin and Cantonese). When you get to an interchange station, the stations that you need to change train will lit up at the display on top of every door and carriage. Most people get a universal RFID card, which can be used on all public transport of the land, plus all Seven-Eleven stores, Circle-K stores, Macdonald’s and some other shops. You just place the card near the sign at the entrance, so it can stay in your wallet or handbag. You go a lot faster that way. It’s a stored value card, where you recharge in the automatic machines in the stations, in the station ticket offices, or simply hand the card with with cash to the staff at any Seven-Eleven and Circle-K stores. Values are increased in multiples of $50 and $100.

You may also use the railway system, which runs to the border with China. The railway system is a straight line so it’s very simple compared to the MTR. Again information are bilingual and announcements are trilingual. At the HK end, there are 3 stations of interest, Tsim Sha Tsui East, which is the terminal, Mongkok, the centre of HK, and Kowloon Tong, where you can change into the MTR system. Tsim Sha Tsui East and Mongkok stations does not meet with the MTR system, but within walking distance.

The buses are very pleasant if you ever need to use them. The stops are clearly posted in every bus stops, also bilingual I think. There is a big LED display inside the front of every bus showing the name of the next stop. I think it’s also bilingual. You just press the red button nearest to you when the display shows your station. There are also announcements for every stops, maybe trilingual or at least bilingual, with Mandarin and Cantonese. All buses are air-conditioned and many are gas powered. There’s no easy way to find which bus you should take. There are just too many of them with highly overlapping routes.

I think the bus system is doing the greatest contribution to the HK sex industry. There are four 15 flat screen TV’s on every bus, two on each deck. You are constantly bombarded with slimming product advertisement (among other advertisements), which is a huge business in HK. It is very tastefully done because the target are supposed to be women, and that children will not be offended. But watching all those impossibly gorgeous slim models in bikini or short skirts, very often I feel the urge to do some detour, getting off the bus to do some urgent business instead of going straight to my destination. I still remember my favorite model to this day, her legs are always on my mind. It’s the same thing in most newspapers and magazines.

Taxi’s start with $15. They are well regulated, including the price of luggage and toll fees (for tunnels). Because of lack of business, they often have to queue for a long time in taxi stops before they get any customers. They are not very happy if you just go two blocks in front. Or if you go to some dead areas like Mongkok, where you can spend half a day in the traffic jam without going anywhere. The drivers can take it with pride as mostly tourists do this. But a little tips help, like $10. Otherwise tips is optional, the longer the trip, the more optional it is.

For maps I recommend http://www.vectormap.com. It’s bilingual. You can zoom in to the building level, which is important to hunt for 141 girls. You can selectively show Underground stations and the name of buildings in the maps. When you plan for directions, include the exit number of underground stations, A, B, C etc, and optionally with numbers A1, A2 etc. You can use taxi but it can be a lot slower sometimes.


Weather:

HK has sub-tropical weather, which can be hot and humid. But since even the buses are air-conditioned, you don’t need to prepare for it unless you are going to walk a long way. Indeed you need to bring a jacket if you need to sit for a few hours in a nightclub, or spend half a day in the shopping mall. Often a wafer thin plastic jacket also doubles as an emergency rain coat. In clubs where the teenage girls wear sport shoes, these jackets are also common.

The perfect weather is about start of November, which is also the season with cheapest tickets. The weather starts to be decent after mid-September. At end of November, you need a duvet when you are sleeping with the windows open. There’s not many days in the year with temperature below 10 degree C.

HK is a free country, you can wear anything going anywhere when you want to be nobody. But if you want to look to be somebody, it’s hard. Most OL’s (office ladies) wear a suit and high heels. Everything is judged by brands, and they have brands for everything. In other countries, the brand of your car and the location your house say a lot about you. In HK, other people can’t easily see it even if you can afford a car and the space to park it. And thousands live in a building with identical units. I think the psychology of ants drives HK people to distinguish themselves by all means, clothes being the obvious target. When you can still get a sweat after a short walk, some ‘trendy’ girls go out with long leather boots, scarfs, and wool jackets.

Shorts and slippers are out. Sunglasses are out too. Brand named ones in summer maybe. Otherwise you look like a triad. The tinted ones make you looks like someone from the North (PRC). If you wear glasses, better be the frameless ones. Otherwise you look like a student. But frameless glasses are a lot more expensive in other countries when everything have to pass minimum standards and all opticians are qualified. Even in Central, I don’t see much Westerners going about much. Any average western woman in Landmark Square will look like a fat old bag. Incidentally, I saw only two Western women during a short wait in Landmark Square, the premier shopping center for the most expensive brands. Both shopped alone, but both came from the same mode, straight long fine hair, both looked like European teenage models, very pretty. At 5'9 to 10, they are slimmer and taller than the HK girls.

Food:

Even Vegas has HK chefs, need I say more. But there are numerous international chain restaurants there to make you feel at home, from McDonald to Rain Forest Café. But don’t expect peace and quiet in cheaper restaurants around meal time. You pay a lot for peace and quiet.

Hotels:

You begin to experience more about Einstein’s time-space universe in HK, and everything is charged accordingly. Hotels are expensive. Bookable via the internet, few hotels are under $500 HKD per night. $1000 is more like it. Even in expensive parts of California, $400 will give you a very pleasant stay in a motel at internet price. But even a run down boarding house in Jordan charges you over $300 a night, and it’s not available via the internet.

Old boarding houses in the red light districts (which can be everywhere) charges at least $60 per hour, or maybe $100 if the girls bring you there, while the night club or the girl get some kick backs. There are many specialized love hotels, which are more decent boarding houses, charging $88 for one to two hours, and $188 with special equipments like steam room. Some are very clean, spacious and nice. Some are directly above nightclubs. The best love motel I saw is near the Mongkok MTR station, $88 two hours, very clean and very clean sheets. Bathroom has enough space for two. The room has enough space for the bed and some extra space to move about. Another one in Jordan is large with a large round bed. Fake leather surface, no sheets but lots of towers. Large partition with glass walls and doors for the shower, which is large enough to put in a floating bed with spaces to spare. $88 about one hour. You don’t usually ask for the change for a $100 note.

Communications:

HK is GSM country. If you go there often enough it’s worthwhile to invest in an unlock GSM phone, in which you can buy a SIM stored value card in HK and insert. Unlock means that the SIM is not locked to one carrier. These phones can be used in Europe and Asia, but the frequency in USA is different. But there are GSM phones that covers all. In HK, you can get SIM cards for use in both HK and China. Or you can get separate SIM cards in each region. Many Northern (PRC) girls visiting HK uses these cards and these no-paper-trail phones are perfect for a secret 2nd phone. Beware that these phones don’t normally have voice mails and when the numbers cannot be connected, you don’t know what’s the reason. Maybe just the phone isn’t turned on in the morning. Otherwise there are numerous phone booths in the land, just rarely anyone use them anymore.

I find it painful to surf sites with lots of pictures without broadband. Broadband is cheap in HK. But for visitors, I don’t think broadband is common is hotels because wiring would be a major task as there are so many rooms. And that a wireless system would be large for the same reasons. Starbucks and Pacific café provides wireless broadband connections in most shops. Central district has a high concentration, so is Tsim Sha Tsui. Some regional major shopping centers has some. You pay by credit card when you fire up your browser in the café. Some $50 ?? for 200 min I think, which can be used within a month or maybe three. The providers are mostly the same so the minutes can be used in most coffee shops.

However, Starbucks sucks as the layout is designed for outside people to watch the people in the café. You are watched in all sides when you are surfing, and rarely anyone bring up a laptop there. Pacific has more privacy and space but it is mostly full like all other coffee shops. After work and weekends when the malls are full of shoppers, it’s impossible to find a seat with privacy, if you can find a seat at all. Students go there to do their homework at weekends and evenings. Though, Pacific has some terminals if you don’t have a laptop.
It’s pretty useless to surf the HK sites when you are in North America, and vice versa. I think the traffic is very heavy in each region and there are some bottlenecks between the two regions, and indeed among any regions. I have no solution for this except patience. Sites like email and banking are OK, but don’t try WSG in HK and ****** in US.

Nightlife:

The most popular nightlife are one-floor-one, night clubs, sauna, K-pressure, etc. I don’t think any are limited to locals. Nightlife is misleading as they are all open from 10 am or 1 pm, but you know what I mean. Too much fun and too little time, I myself couldn’t cover the less popular forms like brothels and go-go bars myself. But I have some information

Frequent Flier
11-29-04, 00:58
Kabukicho,

Oops! It is not Lai Kwan Fong, but Lan Kwai Fong. This web site is a site for bars in most cities including Hong Kong. It is not a competive site to WSG. It is a little out dated but the information is still valid.

FF

Frequent Flier
11-29-04, 01:01
Kabukicho,

Oops! It is not Lai Kwan Fong, but Lan Kwai Fong. This web site is a site for bars in most cities including Hong Kong. It is not a competive site to WSG. It is a little out dated but the information is still valid.

http://www.asiatraveltips.com/BarsinHongKong.shtml

FF

Dorasan
11-29-04, 02:15
It is well known that the sex industry in HK is not as good as in neighboring South China, the border town Shenzhen and the special administration region Macau. Unless you are stuck in HK it’s worthwhile to visit these areas as well. Indeed all areas are staffed and overwhelmed by Northern (PRC) girls. However, one-floor-one is one area where HK shines, indeed HK is leading the world in this area in my opinion. It’s not as cheap as in China but there are no such thing in China.

The one floor one phoenix is the name of the system when prostitution is semi-legalized many years ago. Brothels are not, but you can do it in you private flat alone. One major website is ******.com. There are others but this site has many girls, decent servers, and an unmoderated discussion forum. There are enough girls of all flavors in many districts. If you want other sites, you can download the tool bar at alexa.com to see where the other surfers visit. The local search engine is timway.com and there are some useful adult discussion forums there. According to alexa, these sites rank very high in the world so the bandwidth could be a problem sometimes, especially when you surf from outside HK. Best161.com is even higher in the ranking, but it’s even harder to access.

Some of the post in the forum are in English, easier to input. Most are in Chinese that you can try to translate using http://babelfish.altavista.com/tr. But most posts are written in Cantonese style that will confuse the translator, which is rather poor in the 1st place. You can register and post immediately. Therefore the advertisement are reasonably accurate.

I don’t know how they do that. You expect that all the pictures are recent and real, unmodified. Most of them do look like slimming product models in person. I never heard of fake pictures, air brush, bait and switch. This is not the case in most other countries. USA is the worst offender. Argentina isn’t far behind. UK is better but many pictures still have the studio manufactured look. But HK is super. Most pictures are taken very recently, often on the bed where you will be. These pictures are updated often. Perhaps if the girl’s room and the girl’s dress doesn’t look like that in the picture, someone may complain Most pictures are taken with the room as complicated background, where air brush can hardly be applied. Many girls show their faces, and for those who doesn’t their hair style is likely to be current. In other countries, the ones on the internet are not the best nor the best looking. But in HK, you can hardly find any better looking than those.

But beware that girls may look good regardless of their age. It is well known that slimming drugs from China can slim the exact part that one want to slim. It’s very effective and very dangerous. Drugs from countries like Japan are safer. On top of that, there are other improvements other than implants, like injection, microwave, laser, and even to make your nipples more pink.

For more objective subjects, there are two major groups of girls - massage girls and 141 girls. The massage girls give you a good massage as minimum plus extra, HJ (handjob), BM (body massage) or ML (make love). Most are happy to do massage alone, and most will do ML, but some don’t do it for everyone. The proper massage is often referred to as dup, meaning hammering the bones, but includes all styles of massages. This is not to be confused with BM, which is a means of stimulation and release. Their price lists show packages for different extras, with a standard massage of some 60 mins or more. The majority are simply referred to as 141 girls, which normally include suck your nipples, maybe a few licks here and there, a covered blow job, and intercourse, one shot. Including two thorough hand-free showers, you expect to get out in 30 min unless you last very long. They won’t rush you but they won’t tell their life story to you nor hear yours, and you won’t normally have a cup of tea or soda. Massage girls starts with less than $300 for the basic package up to above $500 for the full package. They are mostly local HK girls, or Northern (PRC) girls settled down in HK. They are not the youngest, mid-20's and up.

There are different 141 girls. The majority are true 141 as they have their own apartments. But some actually have 1/4 of an apartment. The owner split a normal small apartment into 4 and rent it to the girls. Each ‘1/4 apartment’ can fit in a full size single bed, a bathroom barely enough for two people to stand, a table for the TV and some walking spaces. For these apartments, the address has normal floor street and floor number, but after the room (or flat or apartment) number, there is the A/B/C/D designation. These small flats aren’t bad in any sense, just small. The advantage is that the girls are located in a few old buildings in an old district. With these small flats, you see a lot more girls in a visit. You can talk to them first before deciding. Indeed many people do that instead of relying too much on the internet. But that may not always be the most popular thing to do. But if you watch the entrance, when the guests leave, the girls will come out to let you see if they are happy to do that. But be discrete, most of the people in the building are normal families. The other way is to walk around in front of their closed circuit cameras. They may come out to see you if they are free. The price of these apartment girls starts from $300 to $500. Most are Northern girls settled in HK. There are more local HK girls in this group, but they don’t charge more than the Northern girls just because they are local. If they give you a number it’s a good idea to call first an hour or half in advance. A few are by appointments only.

Hotels girls charges higher, $600 to $1000. You go to their hotel rooms, which is rented for say a week to a few weeks. Usually some agents organize everything and bring some girls from PRC, Korean girls and Eastern European girls to work for a short term. There are also local HK girls working temporarily this way. The higher price reflects the hotel charges, overheads, and that the girls are of higher quality to make the whole operation worthwhile.

I don’t recommend the non-Chinese girls unless you never travel out of HK. The Northern girls are value for money, next best if you cannot go to China. At the lower end, the hotel girls live in Southern China, who can travel to HK very often. At the higher end the girls may be from further away and in the game not that long. Many girls are around 18, and the slightly older girls around 20 usually has more outstanding body, tall and curvy etc. Local girls charge more, from $1000 to $3000 without showing their faces or not even posting their pictures. The price only reflects the special reasons for the local guys, that they have the same background, same language, and that they can have a ongoing relationship later. Most of the Northern girls have to go back north after a short stay.

Most girls post pictures of their buildings to make it easy for the locals to find. It’s not tourist trips for visitors. Using numbers to find the buildings in the old districts are not always easy. But in some old districts, there are clear sign posts stating the range of street numbers as in part of USA, but with a much finer grid.

Most hotels girls are in Tsim Sha Tsui hotels. They will tell you the hotel only when you make an appointment. Indeed the hotel industry is talking about invasion by Northern girls. It’s rather easy for Northern girls to get visitor’s pass to go to HK, called freedom walk - to promote tourism in HK within China, a taste of freedom. You cannot tell whether they are tourist or working girls, or both. The other hotel girls are in Jordan, actually not a proper district name but an area name used by the locals, just North of TST. As far as I know there is only one hotel in Jordan, the San Diego. It’s a proper hotel but perhaps it is working girl friendly.

I doubt if any girls will speak English if their language skills do not list English. The agents of hotel girls may be more likely to speak English but I don’t know. However, most 141 sites are truly bilingual, and I don’t know the reason. I think if you manage to get to the door, they are happy to take you in at the set price. Just don’t pick the 18 year old girls. It is possible that they will reject you because of size. Though some night club girls are more likely to do this. Or perhaps you are more than welcome because of your size.

The Northern visitors are more likely to show their faces. Without faces, there are several tricks they can play. Some change names often so they are new girls. It’s not easy to tell their age without faces as the lower end and the higher end looks about the same - slimming product models. I don’t know why but nude and semi-nude pictures are not common. Maybe the higher end girls want to be classy. Next best will be wearing bikini’s or underwear. This is also not that common. Perhaps because I can see that the Northern visitors just take some pictures in their hotel room when they arrive. Many show good looking legs. I look for pictures showing nice feet and toes. Not only that I like that sort of things, but it is easy to tell the girls age by the feet, and that the toe and nails tell how well gloom the girl is. The age is important and don’t use any website and girl without stating their ages. There must be some truth to the number otherwise the locals will bark at them. 18-year-old nipples usually response to your stimulation. Their body are harder to the touch. And they are more likely to have a juicy orgasm.

For the apartment girls, they are less mobile and the locals will drive them to set a reasonable price. It’s in their own interest to provide good service to everyone to get a good reputation. Any if you are very happy, tip them $100 and there’s not much different in the price. For the hotel girls the agents tend to set the price at some reasonable level. The girls also are keen to provide a good service, for tips is one reason, and the other reason is so that their agent will bring them again next time. Again at $800 if you tip them $100 it’s not far away from $1000. With that many choices and not a lot difference in the price, people are looking for the feel you like, school girl, OL (office lady), a cute teenage or a curvy large breasted mammal.

Most apartment girls do not give you a number so advance appointments if possible are not reliable. Some agents are known to be greedy and you may have to wait for a long time when the schedules screwed up. But some are run like clockworks where the girls try their best not to screw up the schedules.

If you are looking for special things like oral without, to completion, rimming, or anal, there are websites that list those sort of things. But you are better off going to Mongkok brothels or K pressure joints.

In Buenos Airs, the internet girls charges 100 peso, more likely 300 peso for tourists. HK is basically more expensive. However, the Buenos Airs internet experience is very disappointing if you don’t have recommendations by someone. The few I saw are posting fake pictures and 5 year old pictures. In HK the hotel girls’ pictures are days old and the price is listed. I always got pleasant surprises from those places not seen in the pictures. The hotel girls may only be staying only a few days. So the girls with the same names now will be a different person. Here is a short summary of some girls that I saw:

TST hotel Joey: $800 19 year old Northern girl, tall and slender, pretty face, long legs with pretty feet and toes. Natural breast not too large but like a nuclear reactor, similar for her butt. Nipples react to stimulation, stiff as a pencil eraser.

Jordan hotel Su Su: $600 18 year old from Shenzhen. Very cute 90 pounder, very slim and leggy. Didn’t want to change position because she liked to ride me. But I just lifted her up and changed myself. She liked all the positions, ended up in doggy, some oak-ohs, and a wonderful smile in her face. Wouldn’t kiss but after I extended the appointment, we were lips to lips and chest to chest all the time.

TST apartment Beauty: $480. Picked her because of her pictures and as a backup for the same building. Her picture is accurate and her waist is awesome. But if she showed her face I would have known that she could be from mid-20's to 30. The touch is of course different from 18 year olds, but a mature women do the same things a lot better than a girl.

Acer V
11-29-04, 04:25
To Bill Lee.
Very doubtful you will find any transport to GZ that late at night. Last train from HK is before 6pm. Stay in any of the Hotels in TST east which is right next to the Kowloon station for the trains to GZ. There are thousands of 3 star hotels in that area.

Conlon Man
11-29-04, 05:57
What locations are Jordan and Noble saunas?

Cheers

[QUOTE=Gyaos]For those who want a good cheap sauna massage, I can only recommend more than enough my favourite Jordan Sauna. There it is $400, $500 and $600 respectively. I've never been let down there. And it's 90 minutes, no ripoff.

This review if for Noble Sauna.

Buko Max
11-29-04, 09:13
Hello gentlemen,

Thank you very much for the informative posts by Dorasan, HKferry and others. But I have a few more questions, if you could answer them. I will be traveling to HK for chinese new year and I was wondering how long the city shuts down for. Will accomodations be hard to come by?

Secondly, I wanted to take a side trip to Cebu and I can't seem to find a reasonable airfare. I want to avoid PAL which leaves me Cathay but they want over $500 USD. Any suggestions on other airlines? Your expertise is greatly appreciated!

Mattrick

Superforce99
11-29-04, 16:18
I'm mostly in Guangzhou but I usually logon to the 141 sites
before I head to HK. I've noticed over the past few days that
I can no longer access most of the regular sites. I know ******.com
has been blocked for a while but the others (best161, lady168)
were working fine up until now.

Can any HK mongers tell me if they are still up in HK? Thanks

JK

Dorasan
11-29-04, 18:41
All the sites are up. There could be blocking in China but more likely the problem is bandwidth bottlenecks out of HK that I talked about. The browser simply time-out. Try again when HK is sleeping.

Dorasan
11-29-04, 19:35
Hello gentlemen,

I will be traveling to HK for chinese new year and I was wondering how long the city shuts down for. Will accomodations be hard to come by?HK is a true international city that will not let down it's travellers. Major hotels and transport will be business as usual. However, most local business used to close down about 4 days.

Ramn HK
11-30-04, 06:30
I live in Hong Kong and I have checked all the sites you listed, and they are working very well.

Acer V
11-30-04, 08:25
Jonny,
No problems from my box. The ISP in China must be blocking things. Try using a public proxy server.

Acer V
11-30-04, 08:32
Mattrick,
Hong Kong doesn't shut down like most places in China do over the NY. Some of the girls in 141's and saunas may return to their hometowns so pickings might be slim. Many do stay in town. Hotels are often not busy but this year who knows. Hongky hotels have been doing a booming business in the past 12 months.

As for Cebu, sorry can't help. I know that many Hk travel agents have package prices of well under what you are being quoted and these include hotels.

Dorasan
11-30-04, 12:03
You can’t ignore nightclubs as they are probably more than restaurants, several clubs at different floors of the same building. They can be cheap and expensive. The majority are for locals but many can handle lone visitors. You can find all sorts of girls there. You can have pure company while your friend next to you go all the way.

But this industry, like other nightlife, is overwhelmed by Northen (PRC) girls. It’s cheaper and there are more selection to go to neighboring regions. But if you have a little extra time and money, you can find all you want in HK.

Pricing can be complicated but the basic principle is the hourly rate for company, only. At the high end in Tsim Sha Tsui East, at tea time, before 4 pm, the package deal is about $1,200 for 2.5 hours with a girl to accompany you. This include extra one to two hours if you want to take her outside of the club. Sex is extra at $1,500 for the girl. The dinner time, after 4 pm, is usually at least 1.5 times higher price than the tea time. Most clubs open as early as 10 am in the morning but many girls report for tea time duty at 1 pm. Some TST clubs and clubs on Hong Kong Island are more visitor friendly with website and simpler fee structures.

At the lower end, not necessarily related to quality, the hourly rate may be less than $100 / hr at tea time, and about $150 is normal in Mongkok and Jordan clubs. The dinner rate is about $250/hr. If you take the girl out, that’s about $300/hr. But some clubs allow you to do it inside, which is illegal. Take her out 1 hr is OK but the clubs are more happy with 1.5 hr, and if you spend only about 30 min inside the club, they may sell a minimum of 2 hr to you. Sex is $300 for the girl for the 1st shot, and $200 for the 2nd and subsequent shots. It’s some sort of standard price but if the girl thinks she isn’t standard, you have to agree before taking her out. On top of that, $88 for a love motel for 1 to 2 hr, and $188 with special equipment like steam room. Many clubs provide free drinks, if not they may suggest half a dozen beer at $10 each. Some add $40 as entrance fee. These minor charges discourage people from going away after 30 min. Tips are truly optional. Nothing for mami as a custom. Girls are happy with the negotiated neat price at $300 / $500 etc, unless you are too happy and give them extra $100 afterward. They are more happy if you see them more often. Maybe leave the small change to the waiters, only if they don’t already charge you $60 for half a dozen beer.

Typically the bill for me is roughly $700 for a total of 2.5 hours split in and out of the club, in Jordan and Mongkok. $500 for the girl. Once about $800 for 3.5 hr in a club and $300 for the girl, doing it inside. You may bark at the high price compared to 141 girls, where $1000 will get you the best looking girl that 141 have to offer. But if you have a few hours to kill, or want to spend an enjoyable evening, nightclubs are the place to go, even though the girls are not as good looking for the same money. You expect to have roughly 30 min with the hotel girls, and the agents won’t normally give you discounts if you want to do one more shot or stay longer. On the other hand, you could spend the night with some apartment girls for the money.

You could spend less than $200, seeing 4 pretty girls with student feel for 15 min each. Feel them thoroughly and check them out up and down. You may get a few phone numbers so they can accompany you in private capacity when they are off duty. They can earn extra and you save a lot.

Most nightclubs are Karaoke clubs, meaning that you have a private room, and you can sing if you want to. But if locals really want to sing, they have to know which clubs to go. Because the majority are Northern girls or localized Northern girls, who don’t know much local songs. The rules are that mami or papa bring a girl to your room. At the end of 15 min, she will go out, and mami will come in to ask if you like her. If you don’t, you can try another for 15 min. These split hours are normally more expensive than the standard hourly rates. If you like the girl, she comes back to sit with you as long as you wish.

Clubs have different flavors and there are different types of girls working in the same club. I can only give some examples. Club 1: student skipping school type. Wearing sneakers and short skirts. In the 1st 15 min, you can check them out and doing anything to their breast and nipples as long as you don’t take anything off, as long as you let them stay later. Took one out for $500 to the girl. She is 18 year old local girl with the tightest pussy of the trip. I met her again privately. But she doesn’t have business sense, charging too much, that I have to give her up. The other girls’ aren’t a lot wider. Somehow I got friendly with the keeper of a love motel. She also agreed that she charged too much and introduced me to a girl that don’t even work in the clubs. She has the 2nd tightest pussy but it looked like she really didn’t have sex for at least a few days, any more I couldn’t tell. It’s interesting to feel her heart pound a bit, and the big smile afterwards, for both relieve and pleasure.

Club 2: a little bit more mature part time students, who wouldn’t allow you to touch much unless you sit with them for enough time. Eat in for $300 to the girl. Both of these clubs have mostly local girls and most clients like to sing a bit. I let her stay only because there isn’t other available. But it ended up to be one of the more enjoyable evenings. I sort of got the spirit of these clubs. Just let it happen naturally. We talked and sang for some 3 hours. She isn’t bad but just not as tall and slender as the hotel girls. We got closer and closer and at the end things exploded. Before goodbye, she trapped me into saying twice “sometimes my place, sometimes their place”. Afterwards I realized that she wanted me to ask her number.

Club 3: localized Northern girl, in transparent lacy Chinese bra (one piece of lose cloth covering breast). Matching transparent lace as skirt covering g-string. She found any excuse to take off her clothes and take off mine, and then licked and kissed me without any provocation. Spent less than 30 min and took her out for 2 hours. She is a very flexible girl but she told me that she rejected visitors before with too big a dick.

For the local girls as in club 1 and 2 (and also non-local girls), there are two types known as gold fish and wooden fish. Goldfish means you can only watch but not touch. But normally it means that they don’t do any of the 1, 2, or 3, but it doesn’t mean that you cannot touch them at all. Wooden fish is some religious artifact that you knock with a wooden stick. It means that they will do 1, 2 or 3. 1 is HJ, handjob. 2 is BJ blowjob. 3 is ML or sex. It is common that some girls will only do 3, but absolutely not 2. While 141 girls will do 2 on top of 3 without question.

Mami always ask you what you want before they bring a girl to you. The joke is “I want a small juicy pussy, big bouncy breast, and a freak in bed.”. Even the cheaper clubs are rather subtle about it if you don’t know the mami. And if you know the mami she knows what you want. Even asking what the girl will do in terms of 1,2,3 isn’t right. You can say you want someone that you can take out is always OK. The fact is that for a popular club, and you are the new client, there aren’t that much choice. After you spend a few hundred near to a thousand, mami will be very nice to you.

The interesting thing is about these gold fish. Some started as gold, picking some clients to go all the way in their private time, and then become wood. In any case for the wooden fish, if they become friends with you, you save a lot. The main idea of going to nightclubs is to make friends. Though it’s absolutely against the club rules, I got private phone numbers from the girls almost every time, with sole intention to date them off duty. You are also building friendship with the mami. After that you get the best girls from them, and some offer to call you if new girls arrive, or when gold fish first turn wood.

Club girls are by definition lower volume than the 141 girls, who can be very busy if they are good. Not that many guys take club girls out nowadays when the economy isn’t that good. In any case the girls spend some 3 hours with each client if they go all the way. They have very different feel than the 141 girls. If you can manage, it’s not difficult for them to have a juicy orgasm. The higher price the club, the less the girls rely on take out clients, and their mileage (as in odometers) is lower.

Hitting clubs at random isn’t recommended for the small clubs. At worst they are about to go out of business and hit you with a bill with whatever they can get away with. If you are that brave a tourist, you can counter them a decent figure and they won’t cause trouble. You may heard that the police pretend to be clients from time to time and raids are common depending on the political climate. But the clubs got hit are those bringing large number of illegal Northern girls to keep the club survive. It’s not easy to run into those if you don’t know about that. Even in the worst times, you can do anything in the private room, but just don’t take off anything.

You bill in an ordinary club could be larger than that in the number one (in terms of charge) club Blacks in Buenos Airs. Blacks has some cheerleader lookalike but probably more expensive than 300 peso. You get similar high school cheerleader types in HK but usually they are gold fish. But in HK you have more time, all in private. Another popular use of clubs is to watch gold fish, and then go to another floor afterwards for sauna, or across the road for 141.

John Lee
11-30-04, 18:46
Hi Dorasan and Gyaos:

Thank you for your excellent report. Can you advise me on where one can get Viagra without a prescription in Hong Kong?

Audi
12-01-04, 01:33
When is Chinese New Year in 2005? I am planning to go to HK in Feb. but wanted to go after Chinese New Year. By the way anyone going to be in HK during Feb.; maybe a get together is possible.

Dorasan
12-02-04, 20:08
John,

I never got any vitamins in HK. I have my trusted online pharmacy, and that the cost is a small fraction of a one hour stand. If you don't receive other suggestions, you can try the smaller pharamcies in Jordan road, and others look like it anywhere else. I don't know about the price but I guess won't be as cheap as the generics from Indian online pharmacies. One is near Jordan Rd & Shanghai St, and there are severals along Jordan. You can spot the RX sign that means they may have it, and I'm surprised if they don't.

By law you need prescriptions for prescription drugs but if they don't think they will get in trouble, they will give it to you. Write the name on paper rather than asking about it loudly helps. Fake drugs are not common in general but not 100%. The ones are there for a long long time, though the owners may be different.

Why not just get in a small doctors office and ask for a prescription? It's only $180 for the doctor. Just a thought. There should be some doctors on the side streets around Bowling street, one block north of Jordan.

DRS

Dorasan
12-02-04, 23:02
I saw the sign, K pressure nightclub, one of the largest promotion signs at the time. I think that means Korean Accupressure. And I was right. But Korean Accu and Night club don't mix. That's why I went in to see what's happening. It was weekend in the afternoon so I didn’t think it’s the best time for other things. It’s only $390.

Initially, it was like a Karakoe club. They sent me into a private room. Mami came in. Instead of Mami, she is rather like a 50 year old auntie. As in a night club, at the end of 15 min, if you like the girl, you don't keep her, but went upstairs instead. You have to pay $88 for the room upstairs, and nothing else. The total bill is $500.

In came a classic beauty, a Northern women about 30. Not skinny model types but more classic type. Tall at 5'7, large frame and bone structures. Not a bit fat. Large fake breast and more curvy than the teenage girls. Just that her waist isn't too tiny and her bottom are not round and tight. In a office type of medium length dress but not a suit. Office type of high heels. Quite elegant and sexy. She should be a localized Northern girl. Her name is Lily I think. This is an impression of her (http://www.angelfire.com/blog2/dorasan/lily.htm). Lily has slighter larger bones and slighter rounder figure.

I was attracted by her but that’s not what I came to HK for. Having had a few teenagers, I wasn’t sure if I would be happy with her clothes off. Age isn’t the main factor but she have to be in good shape. I tried not to touch her and gave her wrong ideas. We just talked about something irrelevant and harmless. She wasn’t pushy anyway.

Mami came in after 15 min or less while the Lily got out. I asked mami if she had any younger girls or better girls but she said this woman is the best that she got. So I went ahead because she is sexy.

For the love hotel, I waited for the change for my $100 because I wasn’t thinking. I wouldn’t do that next time. The room is purpose built. Oval fake leather bed in the middle. See through glass walls and doors cutting the room in two parts, one being the bath room. Spacious. In the bathroom there is a floating bed for you to use if you want to. There’s no bed sheets but lots of towels available.

She washed me thoroughly. The room is the brightest that I saw, brighter than any clubs, sauna, other love hotels. Even in the unflattering lighting, her shape isn’t bad at all but just not as bouncy as the teenagers. I felt her sexuality at the shower, and I embraced her a bit, which disrupted her work in giving me a shower. So instead, I gave her passionate kisses on her shoulder.

After the shower, she asked me to lay tummy down and spread my legs. Rather authentic Korean style, full of passion with her tongue. With hair tied up, her facial expression looked like that of Korean porn stars, moaning all the way. The sound track is very good.
After kissing and licking me all over, she rimmed me. I was tired, always tired, and didn't move. She thought I liked it very much and I think she did it double the time.

Then she turned me over. Again kissed and licked me all over. Then the blow job. Lots of licking and kissing and I liked it very much. I'm not sure what she would do. But I let her keep it up. I held her hand very tight to let her know that I'm coming. She didn't let go of my penis. Kept on licking, kissing and sucking. I know that would be an oral explosion (or come in mouth). I kept watching my Korean porn star. But I wouldn't give it her. I knew if I gave it to her I may not have any more ammunition.

I held on as if there wasn't a toilet in sight for 12 hours. She sucked my tip very hard like a straw. At the end I exploded. I was very pleased that she kept on sucking the juice out of me until nothing left, even though the explosion must have got into her throat. Because after that she was extremely noisy in the bathroom using mouth wash.

After the explosion, I was still lying on the bed like a Chinese character 'big'. I went to sleep while she massage my legs a little bit. While I was sleeping, I was thinking whether to try the 2nd round or not. After a long time, I opened my eyes to see her. She wasn't bad to look at. I was going to touch her and try again but she took me to the shower. She gave me a thorough shower again. I thought I might be able to try again. But after the shower, when I was drying myself, she put on her panties. So that was the end.

When I have an erection in the morning, I will think of her. Or when I think of her, I have an erection. She is not bad. I saw prettier 30 year old Koreans but they didn't do that much. It's very tempting to see her again. I would have gone already if she is a bit younger.

Dorasan
12-03-04, 16:00
Audi

Chinese new year holidays feb 9 - 11. Most employees receive their mandatory minimum paid holidays at this time. There is always a deserted feel in this few days, but minimum services will be maintained, like major hotels and transport. In addition, feb 8 will be like christmas eve and the thanks giving dinner is on this day. People will be thinking about going home after work or earlier.

DRS

Dark Mist
12-05-04, 04:52
Hey Dorasan,

Where is this K Pressure place, if you feel it inappropriate to post here, please send it to me via a PM

Thanks.

Lance Alot
12-05-04, 09:09
Audi,

Chinese New Year holidays in Hong Kong for 2005 are 9,10 and 11th of February.

L.A.

Stew2
12-06-04, 02:37
So I am coming to Hong Kong exactly at New Year - from the evening of the 7th for about a week. Given what I have been reading here, I am a little confused - should I expect there to be mongering opportunities at that time?

Audi
12-06-04, 06:09
Thanks for the info. I'm going to visit some friends but since I am there for only a few days is it a good idea to go during that time of the month, I do plan on mongering while I'm there.

Roversman 999
12-06-04, 08:35
Lots of info on this board about it. Try several pharmacies.. one of them will sell. I buy in Regent Shopping Mall next or New World or in causeway Bay, at back of Mitsukoshi on a side street. They charge HK$90 per peice 100mg ( my doctor charges me HK$120 if I get his prescription!)

Asia Hand
12-06-04, 08:41
Hey Dorasan,

Where is this K Pressure place, if you feel it inappropriate to post here, please send it to me via a PM

Thanks.Dorasan,

I will be in Hong Kong this week, can you send me as well the location? Or PM me.

Thanks.

AH

Kevarms
12-06-04, 20:48
Still hoping for a reply to my question about whether the 141 girls will be operating as normal over Christmas and New Year (Jan 1).

Dorasan
12-07-04, 05:45
It's at Jordan MTR exit A, walk away from Nathan Road. K pressure is along that side of Jordan rd, in about the 1st building along either Parkes, Woosung, or further down. I think the side street have some minibus stations. As of Nov they have the largest poster in the area at least two storey high, with Japanese porn stars. The name is 金x麗K壓, in traditional chinese (big5?).

I would guess the Mongkok brothels would provide similar service and more. The sign said 480, Northern (PRC) girl, whatever you want to do. Of course there is some limit. 680 for western girl.

When there are holidays, people go out of HK for sex, even to Shenzhen. 25-27 is Christmas holidays. Some girls may take some day off when business is less busy, but I don't think a lot. The popular girls are really popular and you have to wait always. Christmas maybe a good chance to see them if they are on duty. Only 1 Jan is a holiday. If the apartment girls take long holidays, they will say it on their adv. Roughly less than half of the 141 girls in TST are hotel girls. They are the most likely that won't turn up. Watch their numbers when the time comes and you will have a good idea.

Acer V
12-07-04, 10:21
Generally, yes they will be working. On Christmas Eve and NY Eve not all 141 girls will be working. These are nights of celebration and even the some of the ladies like to go out and celebrate.

Dorasan
12-07-04, 19:55
First, some info about previous post. Once some hotel girls got good reputation on the forums, they could get very busy. Even for good agents, they have to give priority to clients that add hours. I myself added an hour. Several hours are not unheard of, still beating the price of high end nightclubs. Beware of screwed up schedules. Some said that K pressure nightclub means Karaoke nightclub and Accupressure. While I think it could mean Korean style accupressure. (Accupressure is a Korean/Japanese term but also used to refer to massage in many places. Korean girls can use a lot of tongue work.) ******.com consistantly rank top 100 sites in the world, the others are not far behind.

I went to this sauna because I read a report. Not very impressed with the report and the girl but at least it was mentioned and I could find the address. I didn't have time to surf much because narrow band was too painful, and the wireless broadband cafe's were too crowded to surf for sex.

I had 2nd thoughts because the address was in Yaumati. Why would I go there? But I don't have other sauna's at hand that somebody else recommended. At least they have a lot of girls listed on the web. I like the one #90's but heard she wasn't the best. I didn't take the pictures seriously because nobody show their faces. Best161 has saunas and girls listed on the web, but I rarely manage to access it outside HK. In HK, I never had the opportunity and time to surf down to these girls. 141 girls had already taken all the surfing time with privacy. There are some 100 141 girls in TST on a typical site. There must be hundreds of saunas and the ones in 161 all list over10 girls. My sauna has 12.

I went there (http://www.angelfire.com/blog2/dorasan/saunaplace.htm). Should be considered small but comfortable. A shower room with 5 to 10 good pressure fancy showers. A big screeen TV with movie channels. A few rows of lounge seat with a few in each row. What impressed me was the cigarettes on the container built into the tables. Hundreds of cigarettes, different brands. A small locker area. Could have a small steam room that I didn’t tried. They said free surfing and I wasn’t sure if that was like an internet café with terminals. They have one. I think it’s for you to pick girls, but I didn’t thought of it. Larger saunas have pools to soak, and food to order.

After visiting the 1/4 apartments where some of the 141 girls work, I began to understand that HK charges according to Einstein's time-space universe. That's why saunas are so expensive when the girls are not so outstanding in looks. You have better showers than the 141 flats and hotels. You got space to hang out and watch a movie if you want. Drink, eat, and smoke for free.

The locker room and shower room are served by a guy. He helps you with towels, boxers and bath robes to wear. I think he would help you all the way like a Korean woman if you let him. He also serve drinks. He would be very happy with $20 tips when you leave. After the shower I was directed to the lounge chair and had some hot tea. Soon the guy asked me who I wanted. I let him pick for me. They all look the same without faces, nothing too outstanding. After all, they wrote on the wall that you can change until you are happy.

I met #32 (http://www.angelfire.com/blog2/dorasan/girl32.htm)in the room, which was very dark. Her number was familiar because someone talked about her on the internet. This must be some sort of advertisement because she wasn’t that outstanding to talk about. But the fact that she is a sex maniac is probably true. Couldn't see what her face looked like. Legs are in good shape, waist slightly thick compared to slimming product models. Other than her vague shape I couldn't tell anything. So I accepted her, what's the difference? Later I heard that sauna are typically dark. I don't know.

Before she started the massage, I mentioned more than once that it was too dark. But she didn't take any notice nor brighten the light, if that could be done. So I laid on the proper massage table. Her technique is good as she mostly use her feet to massage me, just as some Korean women did. She knew what she was doing, but on the other hand, she used less energy by using her feet. And since she heard that I was really tired she offered to walk on me. I felt a lot better except that the face hole was too big compared to the usual massage tables in other countries. My throat was too close to the edge of the face hole. When she step hard on my upper back I had to pump gas into my chest to resist, otherwise I will choke to death. But she told me to relax because she didn't know what was happening. That was rather painful but I couldn't talk. If I opened my mouth I would loose gas in my chest and I would choke to death immediately. When she let loose I didn't bother to tell her. But then she stepped on me again, and again

She wasn't any different. She liked me. Soon after she started, she stack on top of my back from time to time, like she was swimming on my back without a bra. And after enjoying herself for a while she would continue the massage.

After a long time, I wonder when I can have my frontal massage. But surprisingly there's no frontal massage. If you turn around you have to do something serious. That isn't the case in other countries. It's easier to negotiate about terms and talk during the frontal massage.

It was $688 everything included. I thought the sauna was extra but it wasn't. So that wasn't too expensive. But still that's rather expensive compared to 141 girls and the clubs. At the time I didn't even know what my girl looks like. You do get a good massage and a nice shower and a large TV, if you are really into that sort of things.

Then there actually was a frontal massage, which include lots of lubricant on my penis. If I remembered correctly, she didn't actually blow, just some little bare kisses. But she is good with her hands. After the massage and all that, I was really hot. She put on the condom, of which the local size is slightly small for my head. As usual she complimented the size, or the head diameter, of my penis.

I usually put the girls on the edge of the bed while I stand, and that's for all the positions. Naturally I stood beside the massage table but I couldn't find a place to put her on. She would fall down either edge of the massage table.

All I wanted was a doggy. There wasn't enough space on the table for her to put her hands and knees. At last she was bending over the table, bottom on the edge of the table, feet off the ground, tummy on the table, head and hands fall off the other side of the table.

I grabbed her bottom hard and lifted it off the tables from time to time. I pumped hard. When I cum I felt a big squeeze from all sides on my penis. Looking back, she could have an orgasm, or she has very good technique. Because if she exercised muscle control, you would feel being squeezed on some parts, not like being squeezed in all sides as in a hot dog.

Then I had a long rest. After that, some more massage. Then she started to play with my penis again with her hands. Oh not again, everybody wanted twice from me. I was too exhausted. There really wasn't enough to go around for every girl. But she is good with her hands and I was erect again.
So I put her pussy at the edge of the table and I didn't care how she support the rest of her body. I wanted to pull her g-string but she refused. I understood that she could give me a handjob but if I wanted to fuck again I had to give her more tips. That's OK with me, but I thought she really liked me. Obviously not that much. If she told me earlier I could have saved the 2nd shot for somebody else.

So I pulled her g-string and inserted. I pumped hard for a while but I couldn't cum. Too much sex nowadays. Can't manage two shots every day or every other day. We got two reminder calls to tell us to hurry up. I had to let go without ejaculation. I couldn't anyway. For that she said leave $100 or $200 tips instead of simply $200 that she originally said.

Now she surprised me by saying that I didn't have the condom on for the 2nd attempt I didn't mean to do that. I didn't thought about that because probably my penis was full of lubricants, that could feel being covered. She is a rather safe girl because she didn't even blow me or kiss me on the mouth. But she let me because probably the lubricants is full of germ killing agents and sperm killing agents. And with that much lub I couldn't do any damage inside like bleeding. She could have a small pussy because I didn't feel that she has a big blue sea with that much lub. It sounded weird but if girls are new or semi-pro, they could forget it like I do. (This one isn’t.) I had experience that my girl forgot about it. I also read that a hotel girl forgot it.

During the massage she talked a lot. Like she was going to other sauna for interviews and now she's happy to stay. Meaning that she is happy with customers like me. She also said the other customer waited for her to finish her work and drank with her in Lan Kwai Fong. I got the obvious hint. I was really tempted. But it was a big risk. I didn't even know how she looked like I watched her face closely when she answered the phone. With the backlight I didn't notice anything wrong with her face, but I couldn't figure out how she looked either. I only hope that she looked sweet because I kissed her a lot on the cheek. She has a sweet personality. Somehow I didn't want to find out how she actually looked. I didn't want big surprises.

She showed me the way back to the lounge. But when the light brightened approaching the lounge she would turn her face away from the light. I wish the only reason was that she didn't look her best after half a day's work. She wanted the 1st sight to be her best looks.

Bill time. Paid $800 including tips. Got a coupon of $128 to use for next time. When I got home and looked at the coupon, I was puzzled at first - the coupon said xxx restaurant offered you a discount coupon of $128, for a whole Spring Chicken. At first I thought they really have a sister restaurant of the same name! Stupid me.

Kunshan
12-08-04, 07:45
When I was living in HK a few years ago I remember local people saying that Xmas eve was the best night of the year to go out and get a freebie,,,not sure if its still the same.

Dorasan
12-08-04, 21:38
I don’t see much acupressure around, unlike nightclubs and saunas. I think some are like saunas without the pressurized showers and hangout places. Maybe they are like the other nameless b places but obviously you know what to get.

In the attached map for example, you can find some places with red words on yellow background. I don’t know how they remain business as usual. In the past, when HK wasn’t sure what’s China’s intention, PRC girls were paraded on the streets to attract attention. Now even police are rather active in Shenzhen to keep things under control. In HK they even arrest 141 girls if they were illegal residents. Nightclubs are raided with illegal PRC girls, or clubs that absorbed the Cyber Café girls. In the past there’s no hassle to get a fake Gucci bag. Now you have to know the right stall, ask the right questions and then being lead upstairs to get one. If in doubt, you have to wait 20 min before they are confident to take you upstairs to get a fake Gucci bag!

One sign simply said 480 at the stair entrance. That’s for PRC girl to do whatever you like (they say). 680 is for western girl, which is likely to be eastern Europeans. That street is Women street, which is a pedestrian area full of stalls. In that area, once out of the MTR, you can only be seen by the several people packed around you. In the Women street, the stalls are on the road. The narrow pedestrian walkway is boxed by stalls on one side and buildings on the other side. It’s dark and you can walk around very discreetly, even though the place is very crowded.

Invader
12-09-04, 08:43
Recently I tried Sea Dragon Sauna on the 5th floor of Causeway Center, the same building where New York Cinema is located. It is very new, only opened 3-4 months ago. I talked to mamasan in the launge. They have both local and mainland Chinese girls available. Since this was my first time there, I asked her to pick a girl who has good service attitude and technique. 10 mins later I was led to a private room where #33 was waiting. I had a very good massage for 45 min. Then she started to play with my dick. 5 min later, she asked what else she can do. She offered body massage plus HJ for 680 or FS for 880, all inclusive. I picked BM. unfortunately, I did not last very long that day. But it is a very pleasent experience. I will visit her again on my next trip to HK.

BFD
12-09-04, 14:45
Armed with full info, thanks to Dorason, tracked down K-pressure in the late afternoon. It is pretty much excatly to Dorason's description excpet I must add that she did not think you liked rimming Dorason rather this place specialize in rimming. I can only say when I walked outta there, I must be the cleanest butthole man walking in HK. Hell she rimmed so much I felt like a woman about to cum .....

She is Yin Yin or Gin Gin something close to that and speaking local, madarin or canton, will help as their english is not too well. 23 yr with face 8, body of 6, service 8, and 10 for attitude. bbbj in shower, more bbbj in bed, again rimmed your fuckn mind out, then on with the glove and whatever position you wish.

Overall $390 + $88, clean with extremely friendly attitude. Next stop Mongok .....

Houston Fan
12-11-04, 17:52
Dorason,

Good report on K-pressure. Can't believe you went BBFS nowadays. I need to get back to HK one of these days to sample the local sites. It's just too expensive here at the States.

Audi
12-13-04, 05:39
Was browsing through ****** and noticed that some of the girls state overnight...do any of you guys know what kind of service is included in the overnight option? For example I am interested in finding out from what time to what time does the overnight starts and ends and how many time could you do the deed with the girl. If anyone had prior overnight experience with any of the 141 girls please share the info. Appreciate your help.

Dorasan
12-14-04, 19:13
bfd, i was cleaner, both front and back plumbing!

houston fan, i was in autopilot mode. whenever i saw a g-string, i just pulled.

i walked pass this star style karaoke club in jordan. this is never my first choice because i heard some girls have bad attitude. but i only have names, not locations, for the other recommended clubs. however, the girls sounded like my cup of tea for the season. so i went up. a kid told me that she is the manager and led me to a private room with an on suite hardly used toilet room.

most girls came in with sneakers ! i didn't fancy the 1st one. she is about 18, nothing wrong but nothing outstanding. i didn’t want to do anything, just smoked and rested. she was patient and persuaded me to play dice with her. i was very bad at the game, which is about lying. i also practiced throwing the dices in a very dramatic way that i learned from my 1st nightclub experience, but i didn’t practice for a long time. the dices came flying around onto the floor, and i didn’t know when to stop. she wasn't patient but treated me ok. i didn’t touch her in order not to give her any ideas. i didn't let her stay after 15 minutes.

the 2nd one is the most pretty, exactly what i wanted. i wanted to start attacking her but didn't know the rules. i asked her about 123 and she said $100 $200 and $300 (hj, bj, ml) but she is a gold fish (she doesn’t do any of those). i think after i didn’t touch the 1st girl, they thought i wanted a gold fish. i wanted to see what she would do and started to check her out after asking her permission. she didn't refuse right away but sit away a little bit. anyway, times up and she wasn’t keen to stay. it was a bad start and i thought there are lots of girls like that. i didn’t even try to remember her name. if i remembered her name, i would have gone back for her.

another kid came in and said he is the manager. he said if i wanted one that is more active. i said yes, more flexible. another girl came in, sitting right next to me touching me. and that is called active i forgave them as they are all around 18, minimum required for the club license i think. anyway i checked her out and she didn't resist. i think the rules is that as long as you both don't take anything off, that's ok, provided she allows it. nice fish balls (medium sized) and legs. i asked what she does. she said only 1, and asked $200 for it. i didn't want to do only 1, and $200 is too expensive. but i agreed to it. i didn't want to play with her without giving her any extra. she asked for permission from outside but they refused, because i was new and they didn’t trust me. i asked a stupid question whether she would go out. she said yes. later the manager came in and corrected me that why would i want to go out for $300 an hour to do 1? i think of asking her to stay but when the 15 min is up, she said something that she isn't keen on staying. so i changed my mind and ask the manageress to give me another.

another girl came in, not even in skirts. t-shirt and jeans. she did sit next to me leaning on me, sort of. i was speechless. i sat there smoking and she sat there watching tv. about 10 min into it i didn't know why but i checked her out. she didn't resist. large size for fish ball standards. i did everything every position i could without taking off anything from her. actually she is quite cute. so i let her stay. i did more of the same. when i asked what she would do she said 3 awkwardly (that means no 2). so i couldn't wait to go out with her.

bill less than $800. including $3xx for one hour outside time. plus $500 for her !!! she said nobody took $300 there. she didn't say anything about $400. i told her that doesn't make a lot of difference, but don't make me look stupid she took me across the road. $100 for a tiny room just enough to fit in a bed. a tiny toilet for one person only.

her body surprised me a little bit, taller and slender than i though inside the club. both her fairly large fish balls and bottom have the teeth bouncing effect. i gave her the finger while sucking her breasts. i knew it would be tough, tough without losing it in a short time. so i spent more time on her breasts. while she watched the tv, no matter how hard i worked on that pair.

then i turned her over and k pressure her. i kissed her all over, except the 3 holes. she was tame like a pussy cat. i turned her over and put on the condom. i didn't spend too much time in front. i was afraid that i would lose it too soon, while pumping her and kissing her face.

she did a doggy with knees on the edge of the bed. me standing on the floor. she was again tame like a pussy cat. i pumped her hard. at the end of each thrust, she would say oak. not moaning, they don't do that sort of thing. not too painful. i asked her whether it hurts and she said no. she took everything like a soldier. i got too greedy, i pumped over a longer and longer distance until, after many oaks, my penis fell out of her pussy.

i drank too much and i had difficulty getting in again. after a while i turned her over and do the missionary with her legs hanging over the edge of the bed. me standing. she complained that her legs were very tired that way. so i held them and pumped. at the end we went back into the center of the bed and completed the deed, while kissing her sweet cute face.

after seeing some other girls, i began to think of her. she is the thinnest of them all. more importantly, she has the tightest pussy. even though it was rather expensive, i called the manager the next week. i asked if cat was on duty. she said cat didn’t work there anymore. i was very surprised. i went to the love hotel we ml last time, and asked the keeper which club did cat went to. she was puzzled, but knew who i was talking about. she called cat, who didn’t response for a long time. it was only about 1pm. later the keeper recommended a girl for me who is supposed to be better than cat. but she didn’t response either.

about 3pm cat called. i knew what happened. there was another cat with a similar nickname, who really didn’t work in star style anymore. my cat still works there. she woke up and turned up at work at that time, but i had to go. i said i would call her later in the evenings.

i called her around 10pm. she asked for $1000 ! i though she charged more than the market price last time for $500. the going rate is 2 shots for that. but then skipping the club would cost me more, but i didn’t expect that much. it was a stand off at the phone. the keeper grabbed the phone from me, told her to compromise at $800, and to come over right away. cat wasn’t as good looking as the top 141 girls. but you need different feels for different times, and places, and.... and she is tight, i knew what i was getting.

i had a nice dinner, lots of raw oysters and seafood. i didn’t drink either. so i was better than last time. it was more of the same. after i heard enough oaks, i turned her over to finish the job. in the beginning, she was like watching tv or falling asleep. at the end, she looked very disturbed, could be pain, or pleasure, or both.

i thought we negotiated at least for 1.5 hours. but then i wasn’t keen on the 2nd shot. i had plenty of things to do that needed ammunition. i was in a very satisfied mood and it isn’t too much fun hanging around with girls who only want to sing or watch tv. so i let her go. she wasn’t keen to give me change for my $1000. but i told her it’s ok to keep the change but i won’t call her again. she told me i was lucky that a customer gave her $200 earlier. it turned out that i never called her again mainly because i didn’t have time. and that there are cuter girls out there, not as tight but not far away.

you can catch a glimse of her here (http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/showpost.php?p=326460&postcount=183).

dspomega1007
12-17-04, 22:54
Recently I tried Sea Dragon Sauna on the 5th floor of Causeway Center, the same building where New York Cinema is located. It is very new, only opened 3-4 months ago. I talked to mamasan in the launge. They have both local and mainland Chinese girls available. Since this was my first time there, I asked her to pick a girl who has good service attitude and technique. 10 mins later I was led to a private room where #33 was waiting. I had a very good massage for 45 min. Then she started to play with my dick. 5 min later, she asked what else she can do. She offered body massage plus HJ for 680 or FS for 880, all inclusive. I picked BM. unfortunately, I did not last very long that day. But it is a very pleasent experience. I will visit her again on my next trip to HK.For the $880, is everything included(massage+BJ+ML)? Should I pay the girl ant extra tips?

Thanks!

Actionjun
12-18-04, 11:50
Recently I tried Sea Dragon Sauna on the 5th floor of Causeway Center, the same building where New York Cinema is located. It is very new, only opened 3-4 months ago. I talked to mamasan in the launge. They have both local and mainland Chinese girls available. Since this was my first time there, I asked her to pick a girl who has good service attitude and technique. 10 mins later I was led to a private room where #33 was waiting. I had a very good massage for 45 min. Then she started to play with my dick. 5 min later, she asked what else she can do. She offered body massage plus HJ for 680 or FS for 880, all inclusive. I picked BM. unfortunately, I did not last very long that day. But it is a very pleasent experience. I will visit her again on my next trip to HK.Sign says Ocean Dragon. Very clean and new environment. Management is conversant in English & Mandarine. Saturday seem to be a busy day. Saw a couple of English speaking brothers around the room. Had #27. Short, tight, little one with nice size balls. 6/10 in looks but you don't really see much in the dim lights. I had a good time playing with her tight little box. Says she doesn't do full service. Total damage of 720. Very nice experience.

DayNight
12-20-04, 08:03
Are Viagra prices up?

The shop where I bought a 100mg 4pack for HK$280 in Summer suddenly want to have HK$380 ?

I have not shopped around (yet, but like to get some input from other sources.

Cool Sinbad
12-20-04, 16:13
Hi all,

Has anybody tried this new girl on ******.com -

http://www.******.com/php-en/memberDetail.php?id=6164

She looks pretty good, but I want to know if anyone has any experience with her.

Thanks,

Cool Sinbad

Freeman #2
12-21-04, 09:56
I have tried the 141 gal in sheung wan and amy which is charging hk250 for bbbj & mj is very friendly.I also did the bad door with her and she is very good at it too. give her a 81/2 for her work and she is only 5/10 at beauty

Invader
12-21-04, 18:09
For the $880, is everything included(massage+BJ+ML)? Should I pay the girl ant extra tips?

Thanks!$ 880 includes everything. YOu pay at the front desk after you finish. No need to pay the girl.

Invader

Mike77
12-22-04, 00:49
Hey guys,

I am traveling to Hing Kong arriving 12/27 departing 12/30. I am staying around 1 harbor rd.

Where can i find some women? What should I pay in that area? How far away will I be from some of the places listed on the board? How safe will it be?

Sorry if this is all on the board already and I should just RTFF but in the interest of time Please help out.\

Will

Dragon77
12-22-04, 01:50
My girlfriend is very liberal and adventuresome. We are preparing to visit HK and Macau and she is wondering if anyone knows of a HK girl who will provide a massage and more for both of us.

Dragon77

Freeman #2
12-23-04, 05:27
Are there any local guy that can leads us to the sham sui poh area or like wise where there are many chinese part timer doing their trade.I heard that mosy are peasant, housewife,divoicee or student trying to make end meet in Hong Kong.

My friend have visited one of them in this area and he have left Hong Kong.
The price charge are more cheaper then the one advertised in 141 section.

DeeJay
12-23-04, 12:08
I have been to HK last week for just short stay. Aftermy business, I walked arond so called "Yellow Light District" in Mongkok, but all the yellow signs were gone!! Whats happened? Did they moved or completely abandoned, may be for just a while?

I then went to a sauna for FS+Massage. About 800HK$. It"s twice as much as the Yellows.

Nashboy
12-23-04, 16:42
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John Peter
12-24-04, 02:04
Dear Mongers,

This is stupid Hong Kong.

Look at the hotel room charges for the EVENT PERIOD .

They jack up upto 200 % rates for these period!

John.

I hate this robbering business practice.

Are Viagra prices up?
Are Viagra prices up?

The shop where I bought a 100mg 4pack for HK$280 in Summer suddenly want to have HK$380?

I have not shopped around (yet, but like to get some input from other sources.)

Member #2634
12-24-04, 03:49
Hi all,

Ias in HK for 3 nights. Stayed at the sheraton.

Night1:

As per info on this forum I first went to wan chai to neptune's and fenwicks. Lotsa women in the former but no luck. Was just walkin to fenwicks' when this stunner who was about 5'2" walks up to me at the corner of the building and asks if I wanna have a good time.

The gods are good to me! her name is Yoyo and she is from Singapore. Her contact no is +85298052197. We went to a hourly joint and I paid HK$200 for the room which was pretty decent with a clean loo and bed with washed sheets.

Yoyo starts off by tellin me that she absolutely loooves Indian movies and then starts off by a nice lickin all over. Got a BJ for about 3 mins which was good technique and then she got on top. Rode me with appropriate moans for quite some time.

We then tried the doggy position and finished off with me on top. Her charges HK$500. There was a 7-11 nearlby where we went for some shopping for snacks. She could have been a local guide/GF for me for the next couple o days. But variety is the spice o life so I just took her no with a hint that I might try her and her girl friend the next night.

Night 2:

Walk to Mongkok and see a hotel with a sign that says russian / malay / chinese women available.

Walk in and ask for russian woman. Am told that it is HK$650. Since the room is not as good as last night I try to bargain and am promptly shown the babe who is a stunner. A 9 in looks. Me the stupid foold still try to bargain and am shown the door.
We both walk down and she asks me in a thich accent if the money is too expensive for me. I reply that the room ain;t worth it. Try to find more such hotels in teh nearby vicinity but no luck. So I am back on the streets when I spot a bomb walkin towards an eating joint who looks eurpoean. I follow her and it turns out to be a place where all these chicks hang out between work. So I say hi to the earlier babe and tell her that we go back to the first joint.

The manager glare at me and tells me that I can only have 1 hour. Oxana is her name and she is there till 30th of this month in HK. Her no is +85260759976. She asks me where I live and when I tell her the sheraton, she asks if that is close to mongkok. Apparrently these chicks come down for 3-4 weeks and work only in mongkok.

She starts by bathing me and a good BJ(as usual). Interestingly in both cases, the women slip on the condom during the BJ. She has these delightful moles and pink nipples which I have not seen before. Man that babe was wild in bed. She wouldnt kiss on the mouth but was worth every penny.

No time to track down any 161 or 141 women but my vote goes to mongkok and wan chai for good ol fashioned mongering. Cheers till next time.

Dorasan
12-24-04, 19:00
Freeman,

The local boards, such as timway or 141, have reports about non-pro's from time to time. The reporters usually claims that they know the girls from chat rooms, HK yahoo I guess. But I guess that is some sort of advertisement. They may email or PM contact info to you if you ask. They are not absolutely cheap but may be relatively cheap.

DRS

Big Mao
12-25-04, 10:01
Thx, 2634, for your helpful report. I was a Mongkok frequent years ago and am going back next week. Didn't know they have more European/Russian gals now! Where's this eatingj oint? WHen did you go there? I'd like to check it out, since I'll be back to MOngkok anyway, and of course if there's a score 9 babe as you say I'm afraid I won't be able to resist the temptation!




We both walk down and she asks me in a thich accent if the money is too expensive for me. I reply that the room ain;t worth it. Try to find more such hotels in teh nearby vicinity but no luck. So I am back on the streets when I spot a bomb walkin towards an eating joint who looks eurpoean. I follow her and it turns out to be a place where all these chicks hang out between work.

Member #2422
12-26-04, 18:21
Went to Good Fortune a few weeks ago, only could get the 45 minute massage, but the assplay was good enough to make me come back for full time.

Take the 90 minutes for $440, ask the hostest about "service" and was told that there was no service. Stuck around since I showered, there was enough ass play to make it enjoyable (different girl than last time), but not as good as the first time and since no "finish" a bit disappointing.

http://www.gfsauna.com/eindex.html

Lilojo
12-27-04, 13:25
2422:
It seems that there is a difference in the services offered between the saunas in Kowloon and on the HongKong side.
I have never been offered or been able to negotiate much more than a bsic HJ on the HK side.
I have had no trouble with full service in Kowloon in the 5 or 6 places that I have tried. Prices did vary and the hostesses actually asked if I wanted FS since there might be different girls who offer different services.

Member #2634
12-29-04, 07:04
Thx, 2634, for your helpful report. I was a Mongkok frequent years ago and am going back next week. Didn't know they have more European/Russian gals now! Where's this eatingj oint? WHen did you go there? I'd like to check it out, since I'll be back to MOngkok anyway, and of course if there's a score 9 babe as you say I'm afraid I won't be able to resist the temptation!Sorry man, I wish I could have taken down the names. But ol peter here was concentratin more on teh women :) Best deal is to call oxana, she can tell you where she is.

Lustforthrust
12-30-04, 12:52
I'm donating 2 weeks' mongering $ to the HK Red Cross.

Kudos to HK for scaling-down the New Year celeberations.