2005 General Reports [Archive] - Page 3

Kens14

09-25-05, 08:22

Wanchai FR.

It was Saturday night in Wanchai, and you could literally taste the excitement in the air. A great mix of locals, tourists, expats and sexpats mingled with the pro's, non pro's, bg's and fl's. Started off at 10pm in White Stag on Lockhart Rd. This place has 3 advantages: 1) all sports shown on big screens, esp. EPL. 2) a seat at one of the tables on the street allows you to keep an eye on the action around Fenwick's entrance directly opposite. 3) This place has a great selection of non pro's, expats and local girls. I'd only been there 10mins when I got the come on from a lovely girl from Newcastle, she's in HK working as a nursery nurse. I decided to pass up the opportunity as I wanted to minimise the strings that what she had to offer would, undoubtedly, later have.

The next stop was Delaney's on Luard road. Again, this seems like a great place to pick up expat girls, nursery nurses, tourists and maybe even expat wives who are a bit bored.

Then at about 12.30am it was onto Dusk till Dawn. This place was heaving, great band, drunk people and a great mix. There were air hostesses and expat girls that were definately available - just walking to the toilet they'd take their chance to grab me, pinch my arse etc. However, too many later complications is NOT what I'm after. There were more than enough pro's and semi pro's in here, ranging from 3-8. I didn't approach any, but I was getting smiles, stares and winks from all over. A few came over and started dancing with me etc - it would have been easy to take one who was more than acceptable to anyone who just needs to blow their load. There also seemed to be a few who struck me as being domestic helpers on their night out - I'm sure they'd be available.

However, as I'd now had too many bottles of Tsingtoa I decided to go onto the Strawberry Cafe on Hennessy Rd. This was a great decision - this place had loads of girls and very few guys. Basically, at 3am on a Sat night/Sun morning you've got the selection of at least 20 girls in there. This is a pretty relaxed place - not too much hassle if you don't want it and a few good 'hideaway' chairs for getting to know your new friend. I soon got chatting to nice Phillipino girl who told me that she was visiting her friends here (yeh right). Anyway, a few drinks later and I make to leave. She asks whether she can come with me - yeh no problem. No money is mentioned and it just doesn't seem to be an issue. So back at my flat we have a long and slow session, at 30 yo and after 1 child she still has an exceptionally tight and svelte body - you've got to love Asia !

This morning, money is still to be mentioned. However, she needs to get a taxi to Quarry Bay (from Mid Levels), so I offer her some 'taxi money', she very happily accepts $500hk and leaves with many kisses, numbers exchanged and thank you's ! I don't know whether that's the most expensive cab in HK or the cheapest all night GFE experience in HK !

Ok guys, I know I'm a newbie around here and just learning my way around. However, I do think that prices quoted in other posts on this thread seem to be well over the top. The quantity of girls around Wanchai and the number of come-ons I got led me to believe that I could easily have got all night just for a few drinks, a laugh and a dance. I'm no great looker, but seriously the girls around Wanchai reminded me of Sukhumvit in Bangkok. Basically you can get it all for free/v.little money if you spend a lttle time 'chatting them up'. No need to trek over to Mongkok, worry about triads and be limited to 45mins for $700hk !

Fenwicks next week - I think I'm gonna love this town !!

Kens14

Jimbehr2000

09-25-05, 09:00

Thanks for sharing your perspective on the scene in Wanchai. Based on personal experience and other reports, you seem to have successfully conquered Wanchai. I don't think its quite that easy for the rest of us.

Hope you'll report often. I really enjoyed reading your report.

Little Wing

09-25-05, 10:20

ken: nice report. maybe you're better looking and younger than some of the rest of us :)

sanshiro: good reminder about the weather. i've been following the satellite animations of the current cyclone for a few days, since i'm back briefly next week. perhaps readers of this board should particularly note that as well as worrying about flying objects and flooding:
since seas are very rough with swells, you are advised to stay away from the shoreline and not to engage in [CodeWord118] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord118). ;)

little wing

Tiger74

09-25-05, 22:10

Hey guys, real quick,

I'm going to Hong Kong in a few months (not my first time) and thinking of MAYBE going to the Philippines as a nice little side trip for a week or two (also not my first time there). But, trying to find a cheap flight from Hong Kong to Philippines, but having a difficult time. Everything I have seen quoted is around $300 roundtrip. Not a LOT of money, but for what basically is a two hour flight, you would think it will be a little cheaper SOMEWHERE!

So, has anyone every done this route and found any better deals? Also, are there any good Hong Kong travel agents people can point me too? Maybe I will try a few of them. If it's $300, it's $300, but think maybe I can find something in the $200 range (yeah, I KNOW I sound cheap, but I will be doing a lot of flying during this time on 4 different continents, so I can't splurge too much more on airline tickets at this point :)).

Tiger 888

09-26-05, 09:32

Hi Tiger74,

You can usually go from Hong Kong by Cebu Pacific for around 1300 HKD. (167 USD) plus Tax. www.flights.com.hk

There is a flight from Macau to Angeles (Manila Clark) by Tiger Airways http://www.tigerairways.com (It all comes down to Tigers, lol)

For 140 Singapore Dollars (plus 80 Sin$ tax) which adds up to 131 USD, plus the ferry tickets from/to HK (33-43 USD depending on when you travel)

You don't save much through Tiger Airways unless you want to go to Angeles and/or visit Macau.

Tiger 1

I would like to poit out again, that Marcusau could not read my post before he posted, because it showed up much later due to reviewing delay for regular members. Luckily I got the Upgrade to senior membership just now. Thanks Jackson.

Ramn HK

09-26-05, 10:37

AsianChaos

09-26-05, 12:40

Marcusau

09-26-05, 14:00

Tiger 74

I have heard that Tiger Airways is planning cheap flights from Macau to Clark Airport (the old USAF Base), commencing services next month some time. Everything else aside, you haven't lived until you've been to one of the massage places in Macau, which is an interesting little town to visit for a day as a normal tourist anyway. I think the money you save on your air fare will cover a day and night in Macau (or two, if you stop over both directions), which is a must do! Check out the Macau forum.

Thanks for the correction Tiger 1

Marcus

Hey guys, real quick,

I'm going to Hong Kong in a few months (not my first time) and thinking of MAYBE going to the Philippines as a nice little side trip for a week or two (also not my first time there). But, trying to find a cheap flight from Hong Kong to Philippines, but having a difficult time. Everything I have seen quoted is around $300 roundtrip. Not a LOT of money, but for what basically is a two hour flight, you would think it will be a little cheaper SOMEWHERE!

So, has anyone every done this route and found any better deals? Also, are there any good Hong Kong travel agents people can point me too? Maybe I will try a few of them. If it's $300, it's $300, but think maybe I can find something in the $200 range (yeah, I KNOW I sound cheap, but I will be doing a lot of flying during this time on 4 different continents, so I can't splurge too much more on airline tickets at this point :)).

Marcusau

09-26-05, 14:15

I dropped in again on the weekend, arriving around midnight. I'm getting to know the routine a little now, met a couple of girls and settled on Sui May (my best guess at the spelling, as she spoke no English). She is a little older than some of the others but very sweet and cute with a lovely body, nice slim shape and respectable boobs. She did SOP (nice wash in shower, short Blowie, then to bed). On the bed for the best ass rim I've had there and another nice, relaxed BJ before putting on the condom for the main event. She was very lovely and was very happy to please me with a very unrushed root in various positions. Then the usual cleanup in the shower and on my way. Before I left, the Captain made sure the service was up to standard. The funny thing, he was quite eager to know whether I was ripped off with "eject" in the girl's mouth rather than the cum in pussy service he insists upon with his girls! I reassured him that all was in perfect order.

I think I would see Sui May again, because of her lovely little body, but Linda's service is awesome and I will try her again next time (and I'll take some vitamin V because she will definitely try to get two or three shots off!). As I've said before, this place offers good, honest service.

Marcus

Buko Max

09-27-05, 03:25

you can try www.aerohkg.com . they are travel agents in hong kong and the cheapest price on their website for a round trip ticket to manila is hk$1,290 or about us$165.40.

i am not affiliated with them, but have used them once. i use their website as an indication as to what to expect on fares.

good luck!

i can vouch for aero int. because i used them earlier this year. very professional outfit and was able to do everything on the internet. if you cannot pick-up your tickets at their office in central, they will meet you as you deplane for an extra fee. i flew from hkg to cebu via manila for $175 usd. if i'm not mistaken, cebu pacific is now doing e-tickets. so that should speed up the process.

mattrick

Ramn HK

09-27-05, 05:56

Gentlemen,

Will be visitng HK next week and was wondering how to go about.

The website BEST161.com is that a reliable and good way to go or should I use the bars to pick up women.

I have a few questions about the 2 mentioned above.

a) Best161.com - The advetised rates in all inclusive or once i get to the girl there will be extras. Also is "A-level" common in Hongkong?

b) Bars - Do women come up to you or do you have to make the first advance (buy her a drink, etc). Also any nice bar that cater for nice looking women. I am looking to spend about US$200 for each night on the women. Please advise the best way to go about.

Thanks and looking forward to your reply.

AsianchaosActually they are both good ways to go. Just depends on what kind of experience you are after. If you want a quickie get down to business lay, then 161 is the way to go. Prices are inclusive of full service, but if you want extras like CIM or anal, then it will be extra assuming she is willing to provide those services.

The problems with the 161 type of places is that you better have a bunch of addresses with you as they tend to be quite busy and the lady you are after may be booked. Even worse, and this has happened to me, I have booked with the girl, she's confirmed the appointment. As I am on my way over there, she calls me back and says sorry another customer just walked in and she can't make the appointment. What a bummer! Just be prepared, that's all.

The bars, there are many. A nice bar, say Hari's Bar at the Holiday Inn, but I haven't seen many nice girls there - I've seen some only. And you have to make the first move and chat them up.

Another bar - Fenwick's in Wanchai, generally for the asians, a simple look will do to start the ball rolling. For the South American girls there, you would have to approach, but a simple smile and a little chat generally starts the ball rolling. Some of the asian girls will approach you as well since the competition between the girls over there is quite fierce. The lady's drinks there are loaded - meaning they are very expensive and the girl generally gets a cut off the drinks. There are some asian girls there that simply just live off the drinks with no intention of going out.

I was in Fenwick's last night (Monday) and all I can say is that it was truly a buyer's market. There were a lot of nice looking women there both inside and directly outside.

Have fun in Hong Kong!

Actionjun

09-27-05, 13:24

I've only personally been to Sea Dragon in CWB as I'm on the HK side. Overall I would rank it a 6 or 7 depending on the girl. Any brother with experience in both establishment who can share comparison?

AsianChaos

09-27-05, 14:03

Actually they are both good ways to go. Just depends on what kind of experience you are after. If you want a quickie get down to business lay, then 161 is the way to go. Prices are inclusive of full service, but if you want extras like CIM or anal, then it will be extra assuming she is willing to provide those services.

The problems with the 161 type of places is that you better have a bunch of addresses with you as they tend to be quite busy and the lady you are after may be booked. Even worse, and this has happened to me, I have booked with the girl, she's confirmed the appointment. As I am on my way over there, she calls me back and says sorry another customer just walked in and she can't make the appointment. What a bummer! Just be prepared, that's all.

The bars, there are many. A nice bar, say Hari's Bar at the Holiday Inn, but I haven't seen many nice girls there - I've seen some only. And you have to make the first move and chat them up.

Another bar - Fenwick's in Wanchai, generally for the asians, a simple look will do to start the ball rolling. For the South American girls there, you would have to approach, but a simple smile and a little chat generally starts the ball rolling. Some of the asian girls will approach you as well since the competition between the girls over there is quite fierce. The lady's drinks there are loaded - meaning they are very expensive and the girl generally gets a cut off the drinks. There are some asian girls there that simply just live off the drinks with no intention of going out.

I was in Fenwick's last night (Monday) and all I can say is that it was truly a buyer's market. There were a lot of nice looking women there both inside and directly outside.

Have fun in Hong Kong!Thanks for the info.

What is good bar to pick up european, south american chicks ?

Thanks.

Kens14

09-27-05, 14:47

Guys,

I was running from one work appointment to the next when I stopped by Pacific Coffee on the corner of Fenwick St and Lockhart Rd. I sat in the outside area and spied two FL's working the corner of the street at 4.30pm. They were pretty nice:- about 7's, usual denim miniskirts, cheap heels and strappy tops - early 20's, but difficult for me to tell (I'm new around here).

Then, lo and behold, I see that their friend is also sat in the outdoors area and giving me the eye. Unfortunately I couldn't play, I had to work. You know what they say - "all play play play makes Kens very poor one day "!

A small report, but I just want to find those cheaper and more accessible options in Asia's World City - you gotta love it !

Kens.

Ramn HK

09-28-05, 06:47

When you say "pick up", are you referring to P4P or the non-pro approach?

If its the P4P, the places were listed in my post. Did bump into some Polish women at Dusk Till Dawn, round the corner from Fenwicks.

If its the non pros you were seeking, then you could try out Lan Kwai Fong or even Soho where some European women hang out.

Good Luck!

Cupha

09-29-05, 03:46

Any one know whether it is illegal to visit prostitutes in HK?

Peter Pan 2

09-29-05, 18:30

Tooch

09-29-05, 19:23

Thanks for the heads-up guys! I checked out the Tiger Airways site and round trip from Macau to Angeles is only $79 USD!!! I think that is cheaper than hiring a car to take you back and forth from Manila.

Definitely a money saver.

Ggg180

09-29-05, 21:45

Well well well, I have been reading this board for a few days now, it's about time I put in my debut post, right guys, time to share the wealth on what I know about HK, I am not a native but I have spent enough time there.

Peter Pan,

To answer your question: Staying on Kowloon side will keep you clost to most of the local action which is in Monkok, there are saunas and joints all over HK but as a rule of thumb, kowloon side is for locals ie local prices and HK island is for tourists. Saying that theRenaissance Harbor View hotel has a bonus in that if you are looking for freebie action,there is a club in the hotel called club ING which every wednesday or thurs has "laidies night" where all teh hotties drink for free and I would say the best club night in HK,

Cupha, it is not illegal as far as I know and if it were, then they have a very relaxed attitude to the law.

Bull Dozer

09-30-05, 01:40

Hello Guys,
Does anyone have an extra couch or room to crash on for 1 night, I am willing to pay for staying the night, I am from San Francisco, California would appreciate any help, please PM me if you have any accomodations to share.

Thank you, hope to hear from you soon.

Go Joe

Ramn HK

09-30-05, 06:54

Gentlemen,

Could some of you native HK people please advice me on this?.

For my mongering trip to HK beginning of next year I booked a room at the Sheraton Kowloon. They only had garden view rooms left so I took that. Now the travel agent offers me a harbour view room in the Marriott or Renaissance Harbor View hotel on the island side at a significant lower rate.

Is that a better option or should I stay with the Sheraton?

Proximity to the action, sauna's bars and privates is the most important issue for me.

Help and advice greatly appreciated.

PP2The Sheraton is a nice hotel, centrally located in Tsim Sha Tsui very close to the harbour front. You're right across the street from the Peninsula Hotel and you have a few regular food choices nearby with shopping nearby as well. As a previous poster mentioned that you may want to be near Mongkok and if that's important to you, then the Sheraton would be the way to go.

If I had the choice, I would stay at the Marriott. There's a MTR down below so that can take you to Mongkok. As the Marriott is connected to Pacific Place where there are plenty of restaurants, fast food outlets and shopping. Within Pacific Place there are 2 other 5 star hotels connected. If you have the gift of gab and can easily pick up women, then you could try the Food Court at Pacific Place. There are some fine, and I mean fine looking Filipina's that eat there. This is food court style and makes it easier to sit near to them to strike up a conversation.

Alternatively, if you are here on a Sunday, there are a lot of domestic helpers that congregate in Queensway which is attached to Pacific Place. Like you and I, they have their needs too, and I know many a punter who choose this route.

Don't forget, Wanchai is a stone's throw from the Marriott. In addition, with Sheraton there is the walk of shame whereas the Marriott has 2 other entrances where you can avoid this.

Yes the Renaissance has that bar and I have heard many stories about it. But the location is a little amiss. I would only stay there if I needed to go to the Exhibition Centre.

Just my 2 cents!

Neo Sex

09-30-05, 17:01

Hey dudes,

I'm a complete newbiee here but, I'm also going to Hong kong on Sunday, so I am in some need of help.

First off, I will be staying at Langham Hotel in Mongkok, and as I understand it, there are some streets like Soy and Shanghai that used to be "redlighted". Is there any good places there today, and is it easy to go there if you only speak english?

Also, I'm curious about K preassure. It's the most talked about place on this forum. It sounds nice. Is it still the place to hit, or any new tips?

Feedback is greatly appreciated.

All the best dudes,

N

Neo Sex

09-30-05, 17:39

Clit Lick

09-30-05, 23:08

Anyone know of any good places in Mongkok?

I'm new to the scene, but will be staying very closeby.

Feedback is greatly appreciated.

All the best,

Neosex

PS: Sorry if I've missed some posts about this.You are practically at the center of the Mongkok action. Look for any yellow sign along the side and back streets. Portland Street, etc. Not sure if the Langham is girl friendly. Understand the owners are trying to clean up the area.

Luap5

10-01-05, 00:02

Went to K pressure yesterday - lived up to it's reputation as described in previous posts.

Do a search on this thread for directions (better still refer to the map in the new Maps section).

2 stops on the MRT from Mongkok.

There are a lot of similar looking entrances around the Langham but prefered to go to a place of "known quantity".

Peter Pan 2

10-01-05, 11:42

RamnHK and Ggg180

Thanks for the usefull advice

PP2

Neo Sex

10-01-05, 13:55

Ok,

So, whould you all agree that for a good first time experience of the hongkong P4P, a trip to K preasure is the thing to do?

Or is it more advisable to pic up a chick at fenwicks or some place like that?

I think I will do both to be honest, i just want to try whatever is considerd the best.

K preasure sure seams to be this in terms of service and honesty etc etc.

Let me know if anything ells worth my atention pops into mind.

Also curious about if someone know of any girl who looks good, and speaks english as I don't speak the lingo at all.

Many thanks guys,

N

Sxer

10-01-05, 15:43

Normally I spend my time in Thailand but during my next trip hope to visit Hong Kong for a few days and looking for 'the scene'. Hopefully I will be on HK Island and in the Wanchai are (hotel recommendations would be appreciated).
Have spent some time perusing this forum and picked up some information like 161, 141, Freemans, etc etc.
I am more interested in day time assignations of the short time variey, so wondered if any short time or BJ bars exist like they do in Thailand, also I have seen reference to massage parlours, are they in plentiful supply and easy to find? I presume that these are probably ideal for my needs.
Any information would be very welcome. Thanks

Shaolin Monk

10-01-05, 23:39

Visited 金濤閣 (Jin To Court - Golden Wave Court) 3rd FLoor Wai Wah Commercial Building, 109-113 Portland Street, Mong Kok. The in th area is full of saunas, just in this one building, there were like 5 or 6 saunas, wondering if anyone has tried any other the others:
4th Floor - 金龍閣 - Jin Long Court Sauna (Golden Dragon)
5th Floor - 浪濤閣 - Long To Court Sauna
6th Floor - 至尊桑拿 - Supreme Sauna
11th Floor - 新都會芬蘭浴 - New Do Wui Sauna
Please post if you have information on these.

Anyway, went there with a friend of mine, first went to change in the locker room then brief shower (Decoration of the place was a bit tired, small locker room and only five shower cubicles) and finally we were brought to the rest room. We waited there 15mn (with tea and drinks offered) before a dude brought us to our massage rooms (there was no line up).

The routine was more or less the same as MP goes: Very good massage (45min) then girl come back with bag of goodies, undressed and started tongue bath me. After I went on my back good CBJ and we finished with couple of good positions until I was done. Then some small talk and massage. after I was brought to the waiting room where my friend already waited for me. Have some snacks and back to the shower and locker rooms.

Damage 620, girl was #6

Little Wing

10-02-05, 21:27

As I posted a while back, this site gives very good prices on hotels (though only a month or so in advance). It is the only site I have found that bothers with the cheap end of the market:
http://www.hotelhk.com/index_eng.php

The booking process is not particularly sophisticated. You need to ask for what you want on line then fax your card details, then they email you a scanned voucher. But it worked fine. I spent a night at Evergreen, near Jordan MTR, and Temple Street market, for $370 for a double room, which was about half of the walk-in rate. As you'd expect in that area it's a bit rough-looking on the outside and quite basic, but clean, quiet, and had a nice hard bed :)

The staff were friendly and casual. They didn't even bother to ask my Thai friend's name. She sat quietly while I waited to check in and they just automatically handed me two room cards for "Mr/Ms Little Wing" ;)

Little Wing

DayNight

10-03-05, 14:34

Any one know whether it is illegal to visit prostitutes in HK?

Yes, it is legal. Prostitution is legal too. Those who get arrested are either the pimps, or outlandish hookers (mainly from China) which don't have a work permit and breach their 'condition of stay'.

Next topic: I did some strolling in Jordan/Yaumatei yesterday around 15:00. There are quite a number of street walker around the Temple Street area. I spotted at least 20. Seem to be all PRC gals. Quality ranges from 7 down to 0. I would say 3 out of the 20 where quite OK.

I also say 2 or 3 which cater for the old age trade. So when you are 70+ there are willing participants.

Otherwise the area sux. Looks like there is a methadone distribution center nearby.

Ray777

10-03-05, 23:01

Next topic: I did some strolling in Jordan/Yaumatei yesterday around 15:00. There are quite a number of street walker around the Temple Street area. I spotted at least 20. Seem to be all PRC gals. Quality ranges from 7 down to 0. I would say 3 out of the 20 where quite OK.Do you know what the going rate is?

Mike B

10-04-05, 07:00

DayNight

10-04-05, 08:44

Do you know what the going rate is?

I didn't ask. I think HK$200-350 will do for a quicky. Wander around in the area and you will see a lot. Some Mandarin skills are helpful.

Angel Abazdo

10-04-05, 09:04

Hi everyone, I'm new here. Having read through the excellent postings, I still have a few stupid questions. :)

1. For places like 141, 161, etc., when they list the particular buildings (eg. Fook Kiu), we just go there and ring on the doorbell, right? First come, first serve, no advance appointments?

2. The ones which are listed as "Hotel Reservation"... would someone please confirm if they are (or are not) accessible to us non-Chinese speaking hobbyists? Invariably the 141 girls w/ the hottest pictures seem to require "Hotel Reservation"... it would be a shame not be able to partake. :(

3. Places like K Pressure offer reliable, honest service... but the girls aren't as "good looking" as some the 141/161 girls, though they really try to make you happy. Best "bang" for the "buck". Is that a fair characterization??

4. At Fenwyck, etc., the action is mainly non-Chinese... i.e., Thais, Filipinas, Eastern Europeans & maybe even South Americans ?

5. Finally, if one were looking for that perfect "10" Chinese model to spend one night with, money not being an issue, where would you go?? (As a foreigner.)

Thanks for any help / clarification. Hopefully your answers will help other newbies like me as well!1. Yes - and be ready to have a couple misses before you hit.

2. Basic chinese is a plus, but not a must, if there is a subject on which it is easy to be understood.

3. Nope, you can always have a good surprise in those places, and faces you see on 141 are not always the ones who welcome you at the door!

4. All of those quoted. First in number is by far Thais

5. Go to Dragon-I or Kee (if you can pass the door). You'll have plenty of models, perferct 10s, and if they won't ask you directly for cash, you will need to show the bucks and the keys of the benz anyway to get them horizontal :-) !

HornyAsianDawg

10-04-05, 11:15

It's been a while since I have posted anything, but as I have constantly done various research on this site for boinking around the world, I think it's time again to make my contributions. Please also read my Malaysia, Dubai, Germany FKK and Amsterdam reports.

Not speaking Chinese will be a slight hurdle for 161 or 141 mongering in Hong Kong. But I'll try my best to answer Mike B's questions.

1. Yes, just approach the location and ring the door bell. First come first serve. If they are busy and usually with a customer, they will have a sign on the door advising that they are unavailable. If you don't like what you see, politely decline and say thank you. Sometimes with the 141 or the 161 sites having the faces of the girls blurred out, you can get some ugly ones on occasion. Boink at your own descretion.

2. Hotel Reservation requires you to call them. Sometimes a girl will answer but I have been told that some pimps or mamasan will do the reservations for them too. You book a time and they tell you the location. You go, meet the girl, do your business and pay.

3. Some massage parlours will offer a service known as big or "dai" service. You will get a lovely massage and towards the end the girl will ask you whether you want a big (FS), small "sai" (HJ) or vegaterian "jai" service. It's true that some of the girls are less attractive, but they sure try harder to please.

4. Never tried Fenwicks. But I assume that most Fillipina maids would moonlight or just have their basic needs meet too, just like us. But that scene is like mongering in Dubai or trying to hook up with a chick whilst clubbing. If the chase is your thing, go for it.

5. The best bang for my buck is Macau, hands down! I have never had a dissapointing experience at Darling 1. The girls are incredibly hot, almost all are 9s or 10s. Service is second to none. Most of my clients are always happy there, and leaving one country to go into another is always an interesting experience for them.

Bring your passport, and assuming you got into Hong Kong without a visa, you can go to Macau without one too. Take the MTR to Sheung Wan on the Island line and exit Macau Ferry Terminal. Just outside the depareture gates to the bridge to board the ferries are many "travel agents" selling package sex tours to Macau. Ask them for a return ferry tickets and a voucher to Darling 1. Price should not be more than HKD $1400. When you get to Macau, you can turn left, walk up the foot bridge to the end and you'll see it. Or take a cab if you aren't too adventurous. Read the Macau Sauna forums for more details, but for the money and an hour ferry ride away, I always make it a point to visit.

Unfortunately Chinese people are some of the most racist mofos out there. And being Chinese I have every right to say that. Numbers 1 and 2 will be a challenge if one cannot speak the language. Most of the girls will most likely turn a non Chinese away in fear of a Johnson being too big for them. But many of them are just racist as you could probably tell in the various China, Hong Kong and Macau forums.

Massage parlours and Fenwicks might be a little more friendly. But number 4 is probably hit and miss.

I hope this info helps. Good luck mongering.

Hi everyone, I'm new here. Having read through the excellent postings, I still have a few stupid questions. :)

1. For places like 141, 161, etc., when they list the particular buildings (eg. Fook Kiu), we just go there and ring on the doorbell, right? First come, first serve, no advance appointments?

2. The ones which are listed as "Hotel Reservation"... would someone please confirm if they are (or are not) accessible to us non-Chinese speaking hobbyists? Invariably the 141 girls w/ the hottest pictures seem to require "Hotel Reservation"... it would be a shame not be able to partake. :(

3. Places like K Pressure offer reliable, honest service... but the girls aren't as "good looking" as some the 141/161 girls, though they really try to make you happy. Best "bang" for the "buck". Is that a fair characterization??

4. At Fenwyck, etc., the action is mainly non-Chinese... i.e., Thais, Filipinas, Eastern Europeans & maybe even South Americans ?

5. Finally, if one were looking for that perfect "10" Chinese model to spend one night with, money not being an issue, where would you go?? (As a foreigner.)

Thanks for any help / clarification. Hopefully your answers will help other newbies like me as well!

HornyAsianDawg

10-04-05, 11:33

I think it's amazing that ******.com and 161sex.com exist in Hong Kong, and you can view what you want in whatever location that is easy for you before you venture off mongering. I will admit that some basic Chinese, be it Mandarin or Cantonese is required for this activity, and I doubt most of the girls in this line of work will be able to grasp English. There are times these girls come from rural China with no formal education, and they could barely read Chinese. But a phrase book would be extremely helpful.

I have had some great experiences. And the bottom line is if the girl doesn't turn me on at the door in her skimpy outfit. I say thanks and walk to the next address on my list. I usually have a few in hand as backups just in case I get disaapointed. And yes, best141 is REALLY slow.

However, my newest mongering fad is just to go to directly to the *****houses in Mong Kok. There are many houses of ill repute on Shanghai Street in Mong Kok. They are usually on the second floor of most buildings and are lit in pink florescent lights. You will see a menu in Chinese with prices denoting $280 for Thais and Malays, $350 for Chinese, $480 for Local Chinese and $700 for Russians. The usual routine is the papasan will show you to a room, it may or may not have a shower, and he will bring a girl to you. If you don't like, he will bring another. This technique sucks because after you turning down the 3rd or 4th girl he may get pissed at you.

What I did is pay the papasan $100 tip up front, and I told him that if I don't like his girls he can keep the tip. He in turn winds up calling 6 or 7 pimps and various girls showed up. Probably saw about 15 befiore I picked one, and the papasan had to call the pimp to call her back. It's easier to veiw them in the waiting area and to have them come to the room one by one. And he is more likely to make you happy if you reward him up front. I will not mention which house of ill repute this is as papasan has informed me that the pimps don't like it when he waste their time like this, but since I'm a regular he does it for me. Hopefully it'll still be there next week when I head back.

I kinda like it this way, rather than to ring every door bell to find a girl I like, 141 style, it's easier for me to have 15 girls come to me. And the girls are always changing, and papasan will make his recommendations. Once a crack head showed up and papasan shooed her away knowing full well that I would not even be interested. It's kinda cool to have 3 - 4 girls show up and crowd around you in a very small waiting area. Papasan can also arrange three or foursomes if your wallet can take it. My rational, $950 for three nice China girls (mostly 7s) or $1400 for Macau. It's a different way of playing, that's for sure.

Tiger74

10-04-05, 15:16

Sorry guys,

I took so long just to write back and say THANK YOU!!! Yeah, I appreciate it and did the aerohkg.com site and yes you were right, tickets easily under $200. Actually, the site was soo good, I'm looking into booking other tickets now lol. They also have some cool Manilla packages for 2-3 nights. The packages can actually end up cheaper than just for the plane ticket in some cases.

So wanted to let you guys know I got the info and used it right away, but didn't get back on here to thank you guys. Well, I'm doing it now :). Great site and I will be using it for my little adventures. Thanks again all!!

You can try www.aerohkg.com . They are travel agents in Hong Kong and the cheapest price on their website for a round trip ticket to Manila is HK$1,290 or about US$165.40.

I am not affiliated with them, but have used them once. I use their website as an indication as to what to expect on fares.

Good Luck!

Neo Sex

10-04-05, 20:55

Ok dudes.

I feel I realy have to share here. So I don't know. Bear with me ok.

Anyhoo, I'm on the scene as we speak. Here on work shit and have the evenings of. I felt like having some fun so I and my friends, whom I work with hit the HKI for some dinner and drinks, wound up at Dragon I (and as stated there are some solid 9s and 10s, there but I'm not sure if theyr hooking.) Anyway.

We chilled out there for a short time. I ditched my freinds, and went to Wan Chai (unsure about the spelling here) and walked around a bit trying to find Fenwicks, but came up short. All I saw was a place called Laguna or something, had a bunch of chicks hanging out there though, so it might be worth checking out.

Anyway, ended up at from dusk to dawn, and maaan. This place sucks. Sure there are chicks there that are hot and all, but I'm a fly guy weho sort of look pretty cool and to me this was just another crappy place. Whatever. I felt a bit bummed out so I jummped in to a cab and went towards my hotel, which is in Mong Kok (Langham Palace) and stopped of at Jordan to check out K Preasure.

This shit is way cool.

Basicly here is the deal.

I came in. was showen to a room. I had a cup of tea and smoked a ciggarett. A dude, came in and said hello, asked if I had been here before, I said no. I'm a virgin.

He laughed. asked me what I wanted.

I replyed, sweetly that I was looking for a girl who looked pretty and who gave good service.

Ok, cool he replyed.

I'll get her.

first chick was nice but she didn´t speak any english. so I passed.

I asked papasan for a giirl who spoke some english. wich he did not realy have so I ended up with nr two who was a very sweet girl, i´d say about a 7 on a scale from 1 to 10.

And I was a bit drunk so. what the hell. lets do it.

So with sign language we decided to go upstairs.

After paying papasan 520hkd. for 45min inckl. hotel fee, so here we go.

I was a bit nervouse, of corse. being my first time at the place. not speaking the lingo and all.

So. anyway, the hotel is nice. Nothing special but clean and very. Not creepy

Got undressed. went into the shower with little miss. whats here name. I can't remember, and she started to shower me.

Nice.

Cleaned me all up. everywhere. I do mean everywhere.

And then she started to blow me.

Sweet. she was good I dare say. very good.

After a while we went into the bed.

I lay on my stomach (or how the fuck you spell it) and she started to lick my back. All over her sweet toungh was licking and finaly settling on my ass hole. Hey. That was a new one. But hey. All those gay guys can't all be wrong can they? Hell no. It was fucking awsome. hahahaha. Rimmjob is my new passion. dudes.

Anyhow, turend around for some more blowjob acktion and this was good. She was a real cock sucking queen. At least in my book. went on for a while, and then I started to fuck her missionary. Did that for a while untill I got tierd. And tryed to get her to turn around for some doggy action wish she didn' understand so I ended up getting another blowjob which she finished off nicely after a while.

Dudes, it was nice. sweet thats all I can say.

I got a very nice arm and leg massage after this and got to hug her abit (man she was very soft. mmmm that skin.) and then the phone rang and it was of for a cuiq shower and out.

Dudes. all I can say is. If you are looking for a massage traditional bordello style. This is the way to go. sure the chicks might not be 10ers but who cares. They lick your fucking ass man. deal with it. this is the way to go.

I am very happy with the experiance. i´m going back tomorrow. I promiss. thank you all for giving me this tipp. I owe you.

If you ever end up in sweden. let me know and i´ll hook you up with sthlms best escort girl. (it´s a whole different price level. but what the hell) thats all for now.

I'll keep you posted on what happens next during my tripp, still two more days to go.

Wish me luck.

All best,

Neosex

Mike B

10-05-05, 05:07

I just wanted to thank the board for all the insights especially for newbie mongerers like me!! :)

> Angel Abazdo: thanks for the tips! I'll be sure to hit Dragon I or Kee at least once and see how it goes!

> hornyasiandawg: I wasn't even thinking about Macau but you've convinced me to go!! As for the race thing, I know you're right. I'm Canadian by birth but my ancestry is Malay; so I think it would be even more difficult for me there (than a Caucasian), unfortunately.

> Neosex: thanks for the report. Might have to ping you if I'm ever in Sweden. :)

Mike B

Karbon

10-05-05, 07:06

Back from HK. K Pressure seems to be the favourite with this forum and I didn't have time to explore and find out the hard way what places are rip offs and which are not so I thought I'd give it a try. I went twice a couple of days apart during the afternoon. Its in Woosung St which is second street along Jordon Rd from Jordon MTR exit A. Just walk west along Jordon past Parkes St and its the next street. There is a pharmacy on the corner that has a Chialis sign in the window and K Pressure is next door in Woosung House with a sign for the Carey Hotel on it. There is no actual sign that says K Pressure, so I might inadvertantly have gone to the wrong place but the place fits the general description. Walk down the passage past the old guy with the glasses and up the stairs to the first floor and you'll know immediately that you are in the right kind of place.

You walk in and one of the mamas says hellowelcome and grabs you by the elbow and pushes you into a dark room with a TV set to a local business channel and you are asked what drink you want. Once the drink is brought the mama explains what happens. This was not entirely clear because neither of the mamas I had could speak English well, but its HK$390 for 45 minutes plus HK$88 for the hotel fee. This was clear and up front with no hidden charges. I did enquire about longer than 45 minutes, but the answer was unclear because of language difficulties. No attempt was made to rip me off. You are then brought a girl who sits with you, mostly in silence since there is no common language. If you don't like what you see you can ask for another, but I chose first selection each time. The girl takes you by the hand and leads you upstairs to the "hotel". On both occasions I handed over a HK$100 note and received $12 change. I did not receive change from the $400 I laid down for the $390 afternoon service fee, but HK$10 is small change.

On the first visit I went with a girl probably early to mid-20s, nice body, firm breasts, bubbly personality and too much makeup whose name I don't recall. The rooms are clean and well equipped with TV and large shower room. I got soaped down and cleaned thoroughly especially the A area. I believe I was her first Gwailo because she was quite talkative in Cantonese about the size of my arm and chest muscles, my chest hair and particularly my member size. She took a thumb-index finger measure of the thing and talked animatedly for a couple of minutes about it. I imagine she said something like "you are my first Gwailo. I've heard that you guys are hairy and hung like a panda. This is the biggest I've ever seen. I'll take a rough measurement so I can tell the other girls about it." Then the pool mattress comes out, you lie on it and she slides on you both sides to apply pressure. It was OK, but I would have preferred a propper Chinese massage. More shower and more wet BBBJ. Then towel off and to the bed. Goodish BBBJ then on with the cover and several positions to finish. Quite good. She did offer AR, but I'd misjudged the time we'd had and turned it down. Had about five minutes to spare before the phone went for time up. She didn't want me to leave early presumably because it looks bad, so we watched business TV and she gave me a back rub. Then downstars with her calling for mama. Mama leads me back into the little room with the TV and asks if there were any problems. I reported that I'd recieved excellent service.

Second visit was not so satisfying. I got a girl called (I think) Tam Tam. I probably should have asked to see another girl, but she looked OK and enthusiastic enough. In the room and stripped it was clear that she'd had a baby and was a little saggy in places. Just a basic shower with this one. No pool mattress for massage. Wet BBBJ and then to bed. More BBBJ which was above average, very good AR then on with the cover and several positions. I asked for more BBBJ and this is where the attitude problem appeared. Its clearly in her job description to do so, but we had a bit of sign language and facial expression discussion about it. She just wanted to give me some Russian, but she relented and CIM in was. Not the best but OK. I did not rat her out to mama in the post service debriefing because I don't know what the disciplinary procedures are like here.

There is a place over the road that had a girl out front of the sauna. Looked interesting and advertised for HK$290 which suggests a complex price structure and lots of scope for rip off. K Pressure is a guaranteed no surprises sort of place and good value all round. I'll revisit when I'm next in HK.

Karbon

10-05-05, 07:15

Found this on the net. Seems the guys behind 141.com got themselves arrested for living off the earnings.

Internet Pimps in Hong Kong

In Hong Kong, prostitution is not illegal per se. However, living off the earnings of prostitution is against the law. Here is the relevant section of the law (via InterPol)

‘Living on the earnings of prostitution of others’, Article 137 of the Penal Code, ‘Crimes’, CAP. 200

'(1) A person who knowingly lives wholly or in part on earnings of prostitution of another shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction on indictment to imprisonment for ten (10) years.

(2) For the purposes of subsection (1), a person who lives with or is habitually in the company of a prostitute, or who exercises control, direction or influence over another person’s movements in a way which shows he or she is aiding, abetting or compelling that other person’s prostitution with others, shall be presumed to be knowingly living on the earnings of prostitution, unless he or she proves the contrary.'

There is a court trial going on with a twist on the classical pimp role. The technological enabler is the Internet.

The following details are culled from Apple Daily, Ming Pao and Oriental Daily.

The two individuals on trial are a 37-year-old male named Cheung and a 28-year-old named Chen. The two are accused of conspiring between March 1 to September 9, 2003 to profit from the earnings of prostitution.

According to the prosecutor, the two established a company known as KCMC Limited Company and used the name of the company to rent server space on the Hong Kong Internet Service Provider Newsbook Limited. They hired a web developer and launched the website www.******.com. This website is a sex directory for Hong Kong, in which girls are listed by district, apartment building, street addresses, age, physical measurement, service ratings and fee. Ini order to get listed, the girls have to pay HK$4,000. This is a full-service operation as the men will show up at the 'workplace' to take photos and details, and then post the information into the directory. The website reportedly gets 100,000 page views per day.

In July 2003, the website came to the attention of the police. On September 8, the police conducted a regular sweep of a 'place of ill repute' in Tsim Sha Tsui and arrested Cheung, who was taking photographs of the prostitutes at the time. The officers found a digital camera with the photographs of several prostitutes. A search of the apartments and company of the two individuals then yielded the business cards for www.******.com, the ISP contract and several computers with as many as 600,000 obscene photographs.

Under the theory that the two individuals must know that they were deriving income from women that they must know are prostitutes and that their web service aids and abets prostitution, the two were prosecuted accordingly. While awaiting trial, the two were out on bail and have probably continued to operate www.******.com through another ISP. The trial is limited to their activities in the stated period only.

Here is what a typical listing at www.******.com:

Furthermore, they will provide detailed photo-illustrated travel instructions -- a view from the street, the stairwell and the apartment door. On the apartment door, there is a description of the occupant: 'a light-skinned, clean and pretty girl with big tits.' But watch out for the little red sign to the left -- "Please wait a moment." She is working right now.

Here is a question -- there is probable cause to believe that www.******.com violated the Hong Kong law at the time. The Hong Kong-based ISP provided the police with information on the user. But the website is back in business through another ISP. Consider, for example, that this particular ESWN blog is hosted by Yahoo! in California (USA). If www.******.com were hosted by Yahoo! in California as well, would the ISP be obliged to cooperate with Hong Kong law enforcement? Is there even any crime for transnational Internet-based pimping? Probably not, if according to this previous post The Greatest Internet Crime Trial in China. Then those two men in this case are really being tried for being stupid enough to use a Hong Kong-based ISP.

From:
http://www.zonaeuropa.com/20051005_3.htm

Buko Max

10-05-05, 13:40

Hello Gentlemen,

Will be in the HK area between the 8th and 18th of october. If any fellow board members would like to go out for a drink and talk about our next conquests, please PM me!

Mattrick

Tall and Horny

10-05-05, 16:02

Angel Abazdo,

Thanks for the tips! I'll be sure to hit Dragon I or Kee at least once and see how it goes!

Dragon I is only interesting on Wed and decent on the weekends. It might prove difficult to get in after 11:00 pm if you are asian and not well dressed. It is full of eastern european and brazilian models, but unless you want to spend serious cash in showing off, it's not recommended. Key Club is similar but older crowd, but unless you know someone, or have the american express black card, avoid again. One place that could be good for easy action is Hei Hei Club or Club Ing on ladies night. (Thursdays). Volar and Sugar are the top clubs on the weekend, but unless you know someone, you won't be able to get in. I had about 50 percent hit rate in Hei Hei (I am tall, above average looking, and make good money) and about 10 percent in volar and dragon I. I recommend ****** and best161 and k pressure or just go to macau.

Hornyasiandawg,

I wasn't even thinking about Macau but you've convinced me to go!! As for the race thing, I know you're right. I'm Canadian by birth but my ancestry is Malay; so I think it would be even more difficult for me there (than a Caucasian), unfortunately.

Macau is a good bet. Very high quality at a moderate prices.

Neo Sex

10-05-05, 18:23

Hey mates,

I went there today again. (just can´t get enough eh.)

Anyway, same routine. Met a girl who was called Bei. something. She had a rose tatoo on her left breast.

Very nice and she realy had nice tits.

Very enthusiastic and horny.

I got very excited about my member (wich by the way is not that big. about average) but she did it all very well.

Above all she was a greate fuck. Not so good with the rimjob but ok, but the fucking.

Man. She ride me like a fucking horse.

Great pussy muscels. Very good and she, again has very nice tits.

All in all, Great.

But then again it all depends on what your lokking for.

Me, I'm up for that "porno, bordello call girl kind of thing" so for me it´s greate. if GFE is your thing, sure, I mean she was sweet and all but not that sweet.

Anyway.

Thats my word on the issue.

Enjoy,

Neosex

Roccos

10-06-05, 06:07

Hello,

I'm looking for a girl friendly and cheap (below 50 euros) but clean hotel in hong kong, in the center of action - I read from the posts that the best location would be TST, jordan or wanchai areas (is it true ?); can you recommand a hotel or appartment + reservation website ?

Thanks for help

China Girl

10-06-05, 17:42

hi friends,

really want to share this great experience. http://******.com/eng/view_id-9941.html

ka ka is the girl fresh from the mainland last night.
very inexperienced and shy. at first sight i thought this would be a disaster because she had never made love with a stranger.

i treated her as a girlfriend and made her feel comforteable but still she was very nervous. after showering, i gave her a lot of caress and cuddles which made her relax. then her virgin chests got attention. she started to become very excited as she had not done it for long time. she started to moan. she said that she could not wanted to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) me if i continu to arouse her. she feels so great after warming up that i could not hold for long. so tight and so smooth, she must have been a virgin not long ago.

afterwards we took a shower and have a good chat. in no time she managed to make so me hard again. wow, she got very horney after the first session and asked me to throw all our (her) burdons away and enjoy. this time she sits on me, without any shame she released all her sexual energy. we had orgasms at the same time. she was really wet and you could see that it was real as her body was trembling and shaking uncontrollable.

she was a really good gfe. i would recommend anyone who wants to re- experience the first time.

Beijing Lover

10-07-05, 04:14

Hi Roccos

Try Ming Court Hotel in Wan Chai.
They have rates for short time and overnight.

Beijing Lover

Frequent Flier

10-07-05, 07:00

I have received a few messages asking for more information on the girl in the recent pictures I posted and for other information. I also was asked to respond to a private email address. Sorry I will not do this unless I have met you personally and know you better.

So to answer the questions about Cathy, the girl in the pictures, below and other questions.

The girl in the picture is from one of the gogo bars in the Wan Chai area. I cannot remember which one. There are many girls with her nice feature and nice looks or even better. That is the reason these clubs are there. These gogo bars are expensive, so be prepared to pay the price for the premium action you are about to experience. These girls are working in the gogo bars for one reason and one reason only. If you treat the girl you take out nice you will be rewarded with a definite girl friend experience. No doubt here on that.

Your age does not matter to these girls. Sure they have their favorites like everyone does, but you can always find the right girl for you.

I have no contact numbers for these girls. The other reason I frequent these places is to "NOT" have any further contact than the sexual one we just finished. If I see the same girl again it is because I visited the same gogo bar that she works in again and she is available and I am interested in her again for that night. As the saying goes, I am as much paying for her to leave as I am for the lovely time we just had together.

Every hotel I have stayed in in Hong Kong are girl friendly hotels. Holiday Inn, Sheraton, Hyatt and many many others. The girls do not need to be escorted up to your room nor are you required to escort them out of the hotel when she leaves.

Enjoy FF

Boreal

10-07-05, 15:30

2 recent GFEs that I have to share with the group.

1) Was in Sai Wan looking for one of the places that I saw on 141. The first place I went, no one very attractive on the floor. Left and was walking down the street, moving on to the next when I saw this chick on the opposite side of the street walking around in an outfit with her ass practically hanging out. Pretty unusual in that area of HK. She was pretty hot. Turned around to look again and she had disappeared into one of the buildings. Looked at my list (I always make a list of back-ups in case my first choice doesn't play out) and sure enough another den of sin was right in that area.

I bounded up the stairs and much to my surprise, guess who was chatting in the hallway? Turns out she's a Sichuan chick, smiled at me and told me she would be ready in a minute, she had to get ready. She opens up the door a few minutes later and reveals a great pair of tits and really cheery personality. We chat while showering, she is being playful, great little body. Not the prettiest 141 chickie I've had but not bad. Decent at sucking cock but loves to ride it more. Very nice on top. Her name is Yau Yau and I definitely recommend.

2) Better yet is the recent visit to Fuji Bldg in Causeway Bay. First ran into Maybo a couple years ago when she was at Hop Yee. She is amazing--really one of the best fucks (commercial or otherwise) I have ever had. She is sexy, takes her time, is thorough, has an amazing body and is the best HK$480 you will ever spend. She loves to play with/suck nipples and play with ass and cock while showering. She loves multiple positions and is the consumate professional. She is the only 141 girl who makes my cock really hard, time and again. Not only that, she can take a pretty good stick, likes to have her legs pinned back and allows deep penetration. Only pro that I've ever had who can reverse cow for an extended period of time--really she is one of the best fucks ever. Only problem is that there is almost always someone waiting outside her door, though.

DayNight

10-08-05, 05:14

Hsman71

10-09-05, 16:09

Dear Bro,

This is my first trip to HK and appreciate if someone can guide me on my coming trip on 141 location.

1) Is the rate posted on the 141 site is fixed price, no negotiation?

2) How about the rate for over nite for local or PRC gals?

3) for those gals with address, we have to go to the find the place by ourselves? How difficult is it to find the place?

Thank you.

hsman 71

One Eyed Man

10-10-05, 02:56

I was in Hong Kong three weeks ago and stayed at the Sheraton in Kowloon / Tsim Tsa Tsui ("Chim Sa Choy.") The place has pluses and minuses. The pluses are that it's a very nice hotel, with a great view of HK island, and it's close to shopping and the subway. The minuses are the guys that keep bugging you to buy a "copy watch," and all the action is in Wanchai. In the evening, I ran into several streetwalkers, who offered me "massages," but no thanks. There is a strip club across the street, and a mini-red light district on, I believe, Peking Road. Anyone have any experience with these places?

Sunday night, I took the subway and got out at the Wanchai stop, and walked down Lockhart Road, looking for Fenwick’s. I am a friendly guy, prone to smile, and that made it very difficult as I walked down Lockhart, which turned into a gauntlet of sorts. The street is loaded with strip clubs, and if you make eye contact—not even smile—the girls block your passage and even grab hold of your clothing to pull into the clubs. Needless to say, this got irritating. If you are prone to smile like I am, I suggest taking one of the parallel roads. Fenwick’s is at the corner of Lockhard and Fenwick, and Dusk ‘Til Dawn is around the corner behind Fenwick’s.

Eventually I got to Fenwick’s, and it was hopping on a Sunday night. The place was packed with Filipinas, who generally work in pairs. Watch out—these girls are incorrigible flirts. They can easily be talking to another guy and be giving you the serious eye at the same time.

I ended up sitting next to an expat who laid it all out for me. Each nationality has its own section, and I was in a less-prime area, where the Russians and Columbians were hanging out. As has been said before, they won’t approach you first. The expat suggested I stay at the Hyatt or the Renaissance nearby, which are closer to the action. He said if you end up picking up one of the Filipinas, they inevitably concoct a sob story to ask you for money, and he had saved several of these pleas on his cell phone. He also said on Friday and Saturday, the place is so packed that you can barely walk through the place. I was a but put off by the scene (but I did go there, didn’t I?), but at one point a Filipina came over solo and later was making funny monster faces at me. Let’s call her Wendy. I decided she was a keeper due to her spirit.

Wendy and I talked and later made out until about 5 a.m., thus killing my heroic steps to prevent jet lag, and she didn’t ask me to buy her any expensive girl drinks. These “Rock & Roll Tequilas” are about $14 and consist of a tequila shot and a minty chaser. Man, these Filipinas can put down the hard stuff! Wendy reached into her pocket, and had about 20 receipts for drinks other had bought her. Ultimately, she ended up going home with me, having named a bargain price, and it was a totally girlfriend-like time. I came back a couple of nights later to look for her, and her friends were all coming on to me and weren’t shy about asking for drinks. So far, Wendy hasn’t asked me to help out any sick uncles…

DayNight

10-10-05, 08:51

I posted some info on streetwalker in the Jordan/Yaumatei Temple St. area.

I was there yesterday again for a look. There is day and night action. The total number of SW is hard to estimate since the area is quite large, 50 or soI guess. The quality varies a lot. From complete Zeros up to 7-8's. The everage is below 5. I would say I saw 2-5 which are semenworth.

I did not ask for prices, but I overheard a '200' when one of the gals said the price to a local.

The most busy area is Temple St./Saigon St./Ning Po St. But you can cruise around much further.

MilesToGo

10-10-05, 15:36

& found this entire thread 'gnrl info' come up. so bear w/a newb - what does "REST" stand for in the 141? I am just guessing but is it her monthly cycle rest?

Mighty Spearsman

10-10-05, 19:35

Verga

10-11-05, 06:36

I am planning a trip to Hong Kong soon and would like to ask if anyone knows where in HK I can find Mongolian girls. Are there any bars like maggie's in Beijing where you can simply pick them up?

Verga

10-11-05, 06:53

Can anyone tell me where I can find Mongolian girls in HK? I am planning a trip there soon and would appreciate any useful information. I am a fan of Maggie's in Beijing and like the pick up bar style places. Any lead son spa-style palces where you don't have to take the girl back to a hotel would be appreciated as well.

Fast Eddie 48

10-11-05, 09:17

I am planning a trip to Hong Kong soon and would like to ask if anyone knows where in HK I can find Mongolian girls. Are there any bars like maggie's in Beijing where you can simply pick them up?

to verga

your best bet is to go to macau ktv or sauna for mongolian girl , i also
like them tall . the sauna i went to back in 2004 supreme sauna at the
fortuna hotel in macau. www.macau-night-life.com ,

they have a few nice one cost is $ 1000 hkd , you might also check china
ktv in tst east in kowloon .

fast eddie 48

Sajer Guy

10-11-05, 13:36

Are the filipino maids out in Wanchai easy to hook up with? Was out in the bars before a US carrier came in and they seemed to be waiting to meet Americans. However I also met some who seemed to just be interested in drinking expensive tequila and talking with nothing afterwards.

Sajer

Gyaos

10-11-05, 18:09

Little Wing

10-11-05, 18:41

Hey guys, if you lighten up you can actually enjoy the attention of being bugged to buy a suit or a "Rolex". As Gyaos says, you can joke with them and have some fun. Better than getting uptight about it.

I must admit that they can be persistant. I've even been hassled to buy a suit when I was taking a girl to a hotel. I wasn't quite quick enough to tell him "I've already got a girl, she likes me how I am". I must practice that line for next time I'm in TST :)

Little Wing

Tigerlion

10-12-05, 16:21

I tried her too.

http://******.com/eng/view_id-9941.html

I must say that China Girl had a better time than I did. Everything he said about the girl is true. She's very inexperienced. I think China Girl was customer no. 1; I was customer no. 2.

If you want a blowjob, forget it. The thought of a blowjob makes her gag, literally.

Her photo looks better than she is in person. She's a 6.5 at best, I would say. Her body is also not as tight as it should be for a 22 yo.

Actionjun

10-12-05, 21:19

Monday after work set out for this convenient parlor in CWB. Not many brothers in the lounging room at 8pm, or maybe everyone was already enjoying their private escapes. Anyway, I'm experimenting so this time I try English. Was told by the papa that he'll hook me up with a beauty #20. Take the short walk of anticipation.... not to disappoint. #20 (forgot her name) has a very nice face. Baby-doll cute even though you can tell she is in her late 20's / early 30's.

For some reason there was a strange tension. Very quiet-like...but went on with the routine. After about 5 minutes I decided I want to push out the table a bit to give me some foot-space. Scared the shit out of her when I started speaking in Mandarine. I guess papa mistakenly told her I was Japanese. So she was wondering how she would communicate the "menu" later. Everything relax from there and we had a pretty good time. The girls here have always given good massage, but as a trade-off they are not usually the youngest, most bubbly types. #20 probably falls pretty high in the range of price / performance. I started with the BM service but half way through when I had one finger up her little sister, my mouth on her generous melons, and both of her sliding up and down my pole, I asked for the total package. She declined siting the size of my little one (yeah right :-) Anyway, no big deal as the massage already reduced my stress level considerablly. Let loose with the bang, clean up and was walked out with girl in arm.

face: 8/10 (especially since I've taken off my glasses in a dark room)
body: 7/10 (nice rack)
service: 6.5/10 (for refusing full on)
hj: 6/10 nothing spectacular
little sister: very dry, no matter how gently I apply pressure
attitude: nice but a bit chatty
damage: HK$750

Knobrm

10-12-05, 21:45

how is the action in Laguna & New Makati on Sunday afternoons these days? Plan to come to HK next week and stay over the weekend, and was wondering if easy freebies hanging around those places as used to be.

Member #1814

10-14-05, 03:51

Hi Guys,

First post in Hong Kong, but I have to tell this story as I'm quite amazed. Maybe you heard it already but for me it's a first.

Went to Hong Kong last week and straight after hotel check-in went down to Fenwick to check out the crowd. Met a couple of old timers I know for some time know. After many drink I decide to pick up this Filipina, short shorts (I mean very short) and tiny top....sexy.

She starts talking about money, I answer by a "no worries, we'll see that later". Of we are back to the room. I was really to drunk for any action but in the morning I was woken up by an excellent BBBJ. For the next 2 nights she came over at 10pm for the night. Good service and I was kind of puzzled by her behaviour. I had to leave Hong Kong and only came back 2 days ago. Texted her and she showed up at my doorstep.

This time I decided to get to know her better. It turns out that she is living in China since 2003. She's married to a chinese guy with a kid. He works up north and they only meet once every 4 month. She tells me she lives in Hong Kong becasue she's bored and she just wants to have fun. She goes to fenwick just to dance and meet "white guys" (as she says). In her own words, she enjoyes disco and sex. Money isn't the issue. She's just looking for some action. Amazing girl! I checked her passport and what she says makes sense (Visa wise).

Anyhow she's in Hong Kong until 27 and then will be heading back to philippines to check out on her daughter. And then back to Fenwick for some more fun! I'll try and get a picture of her so you can get hold of her if any of you are interested.

Have you already met this kind of girl?

T.

Sanshiro

10-14-05, 11:40

Lots of girls marry HK men to get a visa. They then move out and work. Many times the men turn out to be asses and abandon them. There is probably more to the story than you are hearing rest assured.

Hi Guys,

First post in Hong Kong, but I have to tell this story as I'm quite amazed. Maybe you heard it already but for me it's a first.

Went to Hong Kong last week and straight after hotel check-in went down to Fenwick to check out the crowd. Met a couple of old timers I know for some time know. After many drink I decide to pick up this Filipina, short shorts (I mean very short) and tiny top....sexy.

She starts talking about money, I answer by a "no worries, we'll see that later". Of we are back to the room. I was really to drunk for any action but in the morning I was woken up by an excellent BBBJ. For the next 2 nights she came over at 10pm for the night. Good service and I was kind of puzzled by her behaviour. I had to leave Hong Kong and only came back 2 days ago. Texted her and she showed up at my doorstep.

This time I decided to get to know her better. It turns out that she is living in China since 2003. She's married to a chinese guy with a kid. He works up north and they only meet once every 4 month. She tells me she lives in Hong Kong becasue she's bored and she just wants to have fun. She goes to fenwick just to dance and meet "white guys" (as she says). In her own words, she enjoyes disco and sex. Money isn't the issue. She's just looking for some action. Amazing girl! I checked her passport and what she says makes sense (Visa wise).

Anyhow she's in Hong Kong until 27 and then will be heading back to philippines to check out on her daughter. And then back to Fenwick for some more fun! I'll try and get a picture of her so you can get hold of her if any of you are interested.

Have you already met this kind of girl?

T.

Bob Builder

10-15-05, 13:06

WhosWho

10-15-05, 13:55

Hi,

I'm will be in HK from 19/10 - 24/10.

Anyone fancy meeting up for a few beers and game of pool in a local boozer and then heading to Fenwicks for the talent.

Send me a PM if interested.

AJ

One Wing Low

10-15-05, 14:26

About a year ago, I was in Hong Kong for business and visited a few massage parlors near the subway exit in Monkok. These parlors are usually on second floor, with a few pimps guarding the door, and a bunch of small rooms with locks and showers.

These pimps are young and most likely HK gangsters. Some of them are scary-looking with tatoos from heads to toes. They call the fuck girls who apparently go around different parlors via subway. They all wear their standard uniform of short skirts and walking sneakers. In theory, you can turn down the ugly girls and the pimp will keep bringing them in until you find one you like. You would have to wait about 15 minutes each time.

I had an excellent session with a Mainland Chinese in her early 30's. She was very pretty, beautiful and gentle. The session with her was as nice as a soft porn movie. I tried to find her again but was unsuccessful. The HongKong girls are mostly short, ugly and very rude. They follow the same script of mechanical sex and would not allow any touching. The sessions were costing about US$60.

One day I just finished doing one of those short, ugly HK bitches, and was in the shower, lamenting loudly about the waste of my fucking time and money, when 2 HK plainclothed policemen badged through the locked door, demanding to see our papers. The stupid pimp at the door was supposed to ring some sort of alarms or turn on some lights, but never did.

We were the only couple in the parlor and were very lucky that we were already done with the sex. I was in the shower while the girls was already clothed ready to leave. The cops checked the girl's paper and quickly let her go. I gave them a copy of my passport. They were furious. They wanted to see the original.

The lead cop spoke perfect English. He informed me how I could have been held in a rotten HK jail for 4 weeks until they sort out their prostitution charges against me, which could be a biitch considering all my travel arrangements already made. He was acting cool, but he made it clear that the risks are very high for tourists to buy sex in Hong Kong. They acted like I was responsible for the creation of the prostitution insdustry in HK. I wanted to kill the asshole pimps who were supposed to guard the door and warn us.

After a few sessions with the short, ugly HK sex robots in filthy Monkok under the threat of HK police, I concluded that HK was not worth my fucking time and money. There are many other safer spots in the world with prettier girls who offer much better values.

Gyaos

10-15-05, 20:16

I gave them a copy of my passport. They were furious. They wanted to see the original. The lead cop spoke perfect English. He informed me how I could have been held in a rotten HK jail for 4 weeks until they sort out their prostitution charges against me, which could be a biitch considering all my travel arrangements already made.

This is not the norm in Hong Kong. They gave you a hard time because you did not have your original Passport and had to take your word on who you are, so they pumped the worst case scenario on what could happen without an ID because you did not have an authentic identification on your person while engaged in the activity. Same same happens in Bangkok most of the time when asked for an ID and one coughs up a copy.

One is supposed to always carry their passport, however some don't and carry a copy with the original locked up somewhere safe. I always take my passport, so I can always keep my eye on it.

Gyaos.

Member #1814

10-16-05, 04:37

All girls at Fenwick are working and I'm sure there are lots of places in the Philippines where a gal could go to dance and fuck white guys for free. If "female customers" aren't generating income for Fenwick, they get kicked out.

If money isn't the issue does that you mean that you aren't giving her any?First time I paid her 100 USD and taxi fair, but she didn't ask for it. I juts assumed I would have to pay her. But once she told me her story I stopped paying her and she never asks for anything.

T

Member #3414

10-16-05, 09:39

Nice experience this afternoon (Sunday, around 3pm). Had wandered around Mongkok for a little while - lots of the places there now have English translations for the 'menus' that they display (from HKD250 for 'Beijing' to HKD500-600 for a Russian).

However, I'd been intrigued by some of the streetwalkers who are dotted around the Temple Street Night Market and the adjacent side streets. Most are nothing to write home about, 2s to 4s. But there is a collection of very cute girls right at the northern end of the southern section of the night market (if you see what I mean): junctions of Temple & Kansu Streets if you have a map.

This group stands between the backs of the stalls and the shops, near a 7-11 (on the right hand side as you walk north). About five or six of them. They quote 400-500 when approached. None would come back to my hotel with me, even when I offered extra, so I went with one to the apartment nearby about a minute's walk away across the street. Up on the top floor of a nearby block.

She was 20, from Shanghai, and had a very sweet face and petite body. Called Lau May Tay, or something similar. She had very little english.

Apartment felt safe and was clean enough. There was a guy on the door, and various rooms. Paid the girl in the room, took a shower together, then a hj and sex. No bj, no kissing, unfortunately, certainly not a gf experience. But the sex was very satisfying, mish then doggie.

500 total. Probably could have bargained down and, or found cheaper elsewhere but the advantage here was that I'd seen that I really liked the girl and wasn't left waiting to see who the sauna provided.

Bob Builder

10-16-05, 09:58

1814,

Sounds like you got bang for your buck. Excuse my previous scepticism but to quote a joke that I have heard more than one mongers that frequent Wan Chai tell is -

How do you tell if a filipino is lying?

Her lips are moving!

One Wing Low

10-16-05, 10:01

I showed the goons my original passport. They were still furious.

This is not the norm in Hong Kong. They gave you a hard time because you did not have your original Passport and had to take your word on who you are, so they pumped the worst case scenario on what could happen without an ID because you did not have an authentic identification on your person while engaged in the activity. Same same happens in Bangkok most of the time when asked for an ID and one coughs up a copy.

One is supposed to always carry their passport, however some don't and carry a copy with the original locked up somewhere safe. I always take my passport, so I can always keep my eye on it.

Gyaos.

Marcusau

10-16-05, 10:16

I dropped into K Pressure again last night, hoping to see the very talented Linda. But she had a day off. After seeing a couple of girls, the Captain recommended a lovely young girl named Tong Tong. She is very slim but her bottom is not skinny like so many Chinese girls and she has quite large and nice breasts, completely natural. While her face is not that beautiful, she is a sweet girl and our complete lack of a common language turned out not to be a problem.

The shower was as per previous posts with a brief warm up BJ. To the bed and she gave me the best AR I've had so far at this place. More BJ then on with the condom, then various positions. I had a few drinks during the evening so she had to work hard, which she did with zest! Because this girl has such a lovely slim body, doggie was superb. Looking down at her almost perfectly shaped butt and holding her lovely slim waist was just superb, then I looked across in the mirror (the rooms have many mirrors) to see her breasts swaying gently, what a turn on. She also did something I really like about doggy, I stayed still while she rocked back and forth with her back in a perfect arch, like she was massaging my dick with her pussy. For real connoisers of female anatomy, this girl has another nice attribute, while her pussy is nice and tight, it is long (I hope you know what I mean), so she can take the full length without any of the "you're too big" bullshit and makes those nice, long, slow strokes an absolute pleasure. Lovely! I finally came with her on top again, doing that other position I really like, the "Thai squat" as I call it.

Another good session. While most of the girls at K Pressure aren't really beautiful,they really do provide honest, reliable service.

Bob Builder

10-16-05, 11:09

one wing,

it had nothing to do with your passport and it was a ruse to scare you into not doing it again. as far as i know if you had broken the law as serious as prostitution (if they could make it stick) you don't get off with first time warning and they are obligated to busting your ass so it was some bullshit scare tactic. which seems to have the desired effect as i bet you weren't in the mood to argue as you probably had some incredible guilty feeling of literally being caught with your pants down.

the only thing which they could have got you for was if the gal was ****.

at least it is better than what they used to back in the old days where they called your wife to pick you up at the police station.

FurryFriend

10-16-05, 20:30

the lead cop spoke perfect english. he informed me how i could have been held in a rotten hk jail for 4 weeks until they sort out their prostitution charges against me, which could be a biitch considering all my travel arrangements already made. he was acting cool, but he made it clear that the risks are very high for tourists to buy sex in hong kong. they acted like i was responsible for the creation of the prostitution insdustry in hk. i wanted to kill the asshole pimps who were supposed to guard the door and warn us.

you shouldn't judge hong kong from one bad experience. in all my time mongering in mongkok, i've never come close to any legal difficulties. and from my friends and from reading forums like this, i've never heard of a single incident in which a patron has been arrested or sent to jail for visiting a brothal. that lead cop was bullshitting you and relied on your ignorance of hong kong law to frighten you. there are no laws against what you had done, unless the girl was ****d or you had solicitated the girl.

of course, you did the right thing by remaining respectful and cooperative.

One Wing Low

10-17-05, 01:01

hi furry friend,

i found the fuck places in mong kok by searching posts in this site.

i cannot read chinese signs on these parlors. however, due to the furtiveness of the pimps, my understanding is that they may be licensed for massages only, not for prostitution. had i been caught in sex acts with the girls in these parlor, i may have been violating hk laws.

i have read continual police crack downs on prostitution in shenzhen recently. if prostitution is illegal in shenzhen, could it be legal in hk? what are the legal differences between hk and england, where i assume the laws are similar?

could someone familiar with current hk laws explain the situation?

you shouldn't judge hong kong from one bad experience. in all my time mongering in mongkok, i've never come close to any legal difficulties. and from my friends and from reading forums like this, i've never heard of a single incident in which a patron has been arrested or sent to jail for visiting a brothal. that lead cop was bullshitting you and relied on your ignorance of hong kong law to frighten you. there are no laws against what you had done, unless the girl was ****d or you had solicitated the girl.

of course, you did the right thing by remaining respectful and cooperative.

FurryFriend

10-17-05, 07:37

If prostitution is illegal in ShenZhen, could it be legal in HK? What are the legal differences between HK and England, where I assume the laws are similar?

Could someone familiar with current HK laws explain the situation?

There are no similarities in law between Hong Kong and Shenzhen. Even after 1997, when Hong Kong returned to Chinese rule, the legal systems between the two remain defiantly distinct and seperate.

In China, prostitution for both the provider and patron is a serious offense. But in Hong Kong, prostitution is NOT against the law. When cops raid Mongkok brothals, they're after triad activity and illegal immigration. Women in Hong Kong are legally free to pursue prostitution as a trade as long as they're not deriving all their income from it (in other words, it can only be a part-time job), that they don't work in a brothal, that no pimping is involved and that the providers don't solicit on the streets. For the patron, it is only illegal if you have sex with someone under 16 years old. Even if you're caught having sex with a prostitute who entered Hong Kong illegally, you're completely safe (she's the one who broke the law).

Hong Kong cops these days have been very aggressive in riding the territory of triad activity. And this is why they will bust into a Mongkok brothal. They're not after you, they're after them. 141s (one women apartment brothals) are growing in popularity in Hong Kong these past two years because they're 10000% legit and no law enforcement can touch them. 141 providers even advertise openly on sites like www.******.com and in print publications on the street. At a 141, you never have to worry about cops busting down doors in the middle of an act. Your only annoyance is sometimes having other patrons knock on the door to hurry you up.

Trust me...mongering in Hong Kong is very safe from both a legal and personal-safety perspective. Sorry you got a bad experience, but it's extremely rare.

I Luv Amp

10-18-05, 00:58

Just wanted to post some reviews of a trip just made to HK and Macao.

Thanks to your posts it was quite easy to find K Pressure. I make it to Hong Kong every so many years and I thought K Pressure was a good value. During a 2 week span I was able to visit K Pressure twice and some some MK brothels in between.

My first K Pressure experience wss similar to all others mentioned, ushered immediately into a room with a cup of tea brought to you to relax. A girl one by one would be brought in until you are happy. I can't recall the name of the first girl but she looked kinda pretty and we did the shower, shower with BJ, over the the bed for a some tounging where the sun doesn't shine and then a BBBJCIM. After that I wasn't able to get back in the game and she sat and watched TV. I was hoping for at least a massage but didn't get that. When my time was up I made mention of the lack of effort to the house mom. I think she went to the girl to find out what happened. Still an OK experience for the price.

Several days later was to Mong Kok to the brothels. I always enjoyed the Thai girls for their petiteness and enthusiam in the bed. I got a Malay winner for $380 HK. She was suite enthusiatic and was an awesome lay in the bed. I even tipped her $100 HK for such a good job.

A couple of days passed when I went to try a different MK brothel. This time I got shafted. I asked for a Thai or Malay and the boss said they weren't any available. I should have seen this red flag and left but he called in a girl that I had seen sitting outside and said she was on her 1st day here (really ???) for $380 HK. This one was a little chubby and not as enthusiastic as the Malay girl. I can't recall the street name but it has a sign outside showing the different types of girls with prices in English. This is practically the only one in English so try and avoid this joint.

Sidetrip to Macau and to the Lisboa. I'll briefly post in the Macau section.

Last trip back to K Pressure. I passed on the first girl and the second was JoJo. I think I reacall she had nice boobs and went with her. She did have nice ones but was a little more mechanical than I prefer. Also no dining at the Y. It took a while to explode which made me feel like I was getting my money's worth. Still a nice time in a nice place.

I envy you guys that live in paradise. For all my fun times in HK, I can only have one fun time in the states cost wise.

Dorasan

10-18-05, 19:19

Law in HK regarding prostitution, same as UK pre 1997. I'm no expert in law but the UK law isn't written according to basic principles or rights, but a long history of customs and fixes as they see fit. In the past like a decade or two, you don't see cards in the phone booths. That's when you can't advertise openly for, and do prostitution. Then suddenly they allow one prostitute in one normal dwelling unit. You obviously can live off profits from prostitution, as all girls have a helper to answer the non-stop calls. (You will never be interrupted by a phone call - the US SW and AAMP girls should learn.) In the suburbs, often a classy madam runs a house, just that there's normally only one girl on duty or none - the madam have several girls on her books. So is the numerous escort agent or agencies on the Internet or local papers - perfectly legal outcall and you are free to talk your needs over the phone.

Same in HK until perhaps 1997. All systems should stay the same in principle but they could have changed something without the public realizing.

The thing the HK police are after is brothels and illegal immigrants. The Mongkok brothels are obvious targets. People sometimes do it in private Karaoke rooms to save some money but that's trouble. Though it's highly unlikely you will get caught unless someone report the club and the police sent undercover. They even check the papers of the 141 girls, perhaps if their enemy report them to the police. It's pretty easy for PRC people to get a temporary visa to visit HK. The police have to be strict to avoid being overrun by illegal immigrants. They already take in a lot to compensate for the low birth rate and for cheaper labors.

I think any LE in the world will try to rough up some smart ass that carries a copy of his passport, worse if he also carries the original. I'm not LE, but I can imagine that I'm just a airline checkin counter clerk.

Me: Your passport please, sir.
Him: There you are.
Me: Is this a copy?
Him: Yes.
Me: Get lost, idiot. ... Sorry, sir, I couldn't help it.
Him: I want to see your supervisor to complain about your manners.
Me: If you wish. (Hand on the button, mouth at the mike.) Supervisor Smith, please come to the checkin counter. A gentleman with a copy of his passport wants to see you.

Nobody took second thought of the announcement. But after a few minutes, a few people laughed. Some laughed when they settled down on the plane. Some laughed, but not until they arrived safely home and unpack their passports. But in less than a week, the story spread to all international airports of the world, and a legion was born - The man carrying a copy of his passport.

Sorry about that, couldn't help it. Seriously, HK is rather big brother disguised with the liberalism of the British. British have no ID's and driver license is just a license, many do not drive. HK citizens have to carry smart ID cards at all times by law and they have to show it if a policeman come and ask. Company register, tax collector, and immigration share the same database, and I think they have a universal one because they can. I know some people with director level position (symbolic) but don't pay any tax (no income from that, just helping friends to fill the papers). When they cross the border to have tea, like millions of people everyday, they got a few more questions at the border because they are on the watch list, as if they are doing money laundering or preparing to fled.

Legs are the weakness for Asian girls. But I doubt very much the short girls in the Mongkok brothels are locals. The local girls look like - the numerous school girls and office ladies in the MTR during peak hours. Many looks like Japanese AV porn stars in uniforms - school or office. Clothes, handbags, hairs and accessories are big, and they all want a body to go with it. Slimming (and plastic surgery) are big business in HK, the advertisements in the 4 large flat screen on almost every double decker bus are predominately for slimming. And the girls start early. Their school uniforms are interchangeable with the Japanese and in turn with the porn stars.

Brothels are about the bottom tier of the sex industry. You get what you pay for. Locals who can speak Cantonese will more likely work at the Karaoke clubs, and they are preferred if all things equal.

I have seen a few younger local girls in the clubs. They haven't got enough chance to get fat yet, teenager thin. And they are either petite or slim so I was rather happy with their proportions, including their legs. The girls aren't that expensive but if you walk up to any better club, it could easily cost you a thousand HKD. For roughly 800, you can have a leggy doll from China with young flesh feel to it - 141 hotel reservation. A thousand will give you the best 141 girls. 1300 for comparable local girls that don't even have a picture.

Actually the club girls end up cheaper for me. They all give me their phone numbers. Those teenagers don't turn up at work everyday. And for those hard working girls, you can see them in the morning - all without the cut of the clubs.

It's sad that the clubs don't change their customs and opt for simple fee structures. However, some clubs do, a few in HK island. And for the majority that have complicated clock fees, they often have package deals especially in the afternoon. For a fixed all inclusive fee you can pick and take one out for an hour or two. It's worthwhile to check around, from phone book or a card dropped on the pavement, or whatever. They could well made up a custom package for you.

Who would think that K pressure can handle English speaking tourists without problem and welcome them? That corner is certainly not a tourist area. Historically there's a ferry crossing in Jordan harbor, 2nd to Star ferry in TST. Now I doubt if the ferry still exists but the bus and vans stations are still there - a busy transport hub for locals. So I'm partially right that if you walk up to any establishment at random, they can speak English or they will find someone who can.

One Wing Low

10-19-05, 02:43

Hi Dorasan,

That was a very informative and funny post regarding the old profession in HK. I really enjoy it.

My take is that the average sex workers that you can get in Mong Kok parlors are the same as the average HK girls, namely they are short and chunky with short, skinny legs. I mixed with many normal girls in HK and that confirms my observations.

I will be in HK again soon and could use a road map on how to meet finer girls who would make Chinese proud. I would exclude Wanchai as that areas are predominantly Thais and Philipinas which would defeat the purpose.

I met a many girls in pagodas in HK and Japan, whom I would probably fall in love with, but for their shyness.

Really enjoy your post. Please elaborate.

Law in HK regarding prostitution, same as UK pre 1997. I'm no expert in law but the UK law isn't written according to basic principles or rights, but a long history of customs and fixes as they see fit. In the past like a decade or two, you don't see cards in the phone booths. That's when find someone who can.

John Smart

10-19-05, 05:42

Here’s one about being busted. I was in a 141 in Tsuen Wan a couple years back. Early afternoon, quiet. The girl was nice – had a good pair of tits, I’d just had a shower and she was just working on a good BBBJ. Suddenly, there’s a commotion in the corridor outside (‘ooops, police’ she sez in Cantonese – I speak enough Cantonese to get around). So in a state of half panic I hopped off the bed and pulled my trousers over my quickly receding hard-on. Flashes of visits to the police station and what else.

So, the CID guy comes in (plain clothes but with an identifying tag round his neck; saw 2 others in the corridor). The girl is not really fazed, despite the fact that I’m pretty worried. ‘Just show him your HKID card’ she sez, as she passes hers across. So I proffer this. ‘How did you find out about this place’, sez the pig. ‘The Internet’ I respond. At which he hands back my ID card and walks out.

‘I’d better go now’ I sez to the girl. ‘Why?’ she sez, pulls down my trousers and continues where she left off.

So, really, One Wing Low, it is not a problem. Treat the pigs calmly and politely and they’ll treat you the same way – and leave.

Another close brush with the pigs was about 6 months back – youll like this one. I was in a 141 in Jordan. Great woman there who had her sis in town from across the border for a coupla weeks – who she was ‘instructing’.  (Yeah, the double act was a laugh). Anyway, as they were both grubbing down on me after the massage, who do I spy on the monitor but Constable Plod. PCs are a different animal from the CID – they move slowly (whereas the CID zap around) and you can tell its not going to be a big deal. But the main girl was a bit concerned coz there’s only sposed to be one girl in a 141 – and theyre both sposed to have HKID cards etc.

So she pushed me into the shower and impressed on me there was ‘only one girl in the flat’. OK sez I. 5 mins later, the coast is all clear – she’s shown em her ID card and they’ve gone. ‘Where’s sis?’ I inquire (the rooms are small as you know). I dunno how but they’d squeezed her into a cupboard!! So out she came, and the action continued.

So, to recap, One Wing Low, it really isnt a big deal – certainly if youre in a 141.

And as a rejoinder, I’ve always been amazed that the 141s – and the MK brothels – are such a no-hassle, basically fair exchange: you pays yer dosh and you get what you hope for, with the girl more often than not doing her best to please. Being ripped off, or having things stolen, is a pretty uncommon experience in HK.

Westex

10-20-05, 18:44

I'm travelling to Hong Kong next week and have just a couple of questions. I've reviewed alot of the fine posts and info here--have contributed to other forums but have only been to HK once before so nothing here. But I WILL, especially if I can get some more good info. I'll be staying on Lai Chi Kok road in Mongkok.

The questions:

1. Is K Pressure w/in walking distance? I can't tell from the map elsewhere here, or my own crappy HK map. If not, can anyone recommend a nearby spot? I went the 141 route last time with somewhat mixed results (1 place impossible to find, two more busy, etc.)

2. Any other suggestions for a massage parlor or other "sure thing" in Mongkok w/multiple girls to choose from?

3. Any good place to buy Asian porn dvds while there?

and even more off topic

4. any suggestions for someone seeking pot/hash in HK while there?

Thanks to all for any help--I'll post back after my visit if anything worth reporting.

westex

p.s. sorry if this post looks familar--I accidentally put it into the photo section the first time (yesterday).

FurryFriend

10-21-05, 04:41

1. I've never been inside K Pressure but know where it's located. It's within easy walking distance from the Jordan MTR (subway) station. 5 minute walk max. You may spend more time trying to find the establishment amongst the chaos of neon than actually walking there from the MTR station.

2. My favorite mongering activity in Hong Kong is the brothal scene near the corner of Soy and Shanghai in Mongkok. There, you can see a nightly parade of providers of mostly young mainland girls. If you see one you like, you follow her into a brothal. Inexpensive and guaranteed service. However, the scene is dying thanks to Langham Place, a mega entertainment and hotel complex built just two blocks north. That plaza is forcing up rents and, with the increased profile of the neighborhood, has been driving away the sex trade there. When I was in Hong Kong last July, the brothal activity was at about 60% of normal levels. These brothals are legendary...so check it out before they become entirely extinct.

3. Go to the northern end of the Temple Street night market in Yaumatei. You will see shady guys hawking bootleg porn. You can't miss it. There are rough-looking men with a box full of DVDs on a chair. The DVDs may not be the best quality but you can get something like 5 discs for $10USD, probably cheaper.

4. Hong Kong is not known for illegal drugs. Your best bet for marijuana would be around Lan Kwai Fong in Central where it's frequented by lots of young western tourists. But very few Hong Kongers do drugs.

I'm also going to Hong Kong, but in about three weeks. Have fun!

I'm travelling to Hong Kong next week and have just a couple of questions. I've reviewed alot of the fine posts and info here--have contributed to other forums but have only been to HK once before so nothing here. But I WILL, especially if I can get some more good info. I'll be staying on Lai Chi Kok road in Mongkok.

The questions:

1. Is K Pressure w/in walking distance? I can't tell from the map elsewhere here, or my own crappy HK map. If not, can anyone recommend a nearby spot? I went the 141 route last time with somewhat mixed results (1 place impossible to find, two more busy, etc.)

2. Any other suggestions for a massage parlor or other "sure thing" in Mongkok w/multiple girls to choose from?

3. Any good place to buy Asian porn dvds while there?

and even more off topic

4. any suggestions for someone seeking pot/hash in HK while there?

Thanks to all for any help--I'll post back after my visit if anything worth reporting.

westex

p.s. sorry if this post looks familar--I accidentally put it into the photo section the first time (yesterday).

John Smart

10-21-05, 06:19

Westex, FurryFriend is right -- K Pressure (the name I found out is actually "Gam Gai Lai" in Cantonese) is 2 mins walk from the MTR. Jordan MTR, exit A, beside the Yue Hua Dept store. Walk down Jordan Rd and Woosung St is 2 streets down. KP is right there opposite.

A similar place I've mentioned before is the Golden Coming Club, 310 Portland St (Mongkok MTR, exit A2) -- its worth going there it just for the name!

The mamasan, who speaks excellent English (the girls don’t but are all very willing), is Nancy. Charge at the GCC is $390 total. 45 mins. You enter, Nancy sends you to a room, smaller than KP, but is clean, has a shower, mirrors over all walls and ceiling (nice touch). A girl comes and if you like her you keep her, otherwise they’ll send up another. When times up you pay Nancy as you leave. Again, hassle-free, no BS and great service for your HK$390. The girls don’t expect a tip, altho if they try (and they usually do) I slip them HK$100 as I leave.

Talking of which, can any mongers point us to places similar to KP and the GCC? There has to be a host of them in HK. Can you lot help to broaden our repertoire?

Ramn HK

10-21-05, 06:35

As a small addition to FurryFriend's response to you.

1) K Pressure. Please refer to the map in the maps section. Walk along that side of the road. After crossing a couple of small streets, you will see a large sign in front of you, I believe yellow in color. There will be 2 maybe 3 girls in bikinis and the price of $390 on the signboard. Across from you, a little bit to the right is the entrance to the building. Go in, walk up to the first floor and you're there.

4) Aside from Lan Kwai Fong, you could try Chung King Mansions on Nathan Road. Since I don't consume, I can't really tell you eactly where to go.

Have fun!

DayNight

10-21-05, 11:23

3. Any good place to buy Asian porn dvds while there?

4. any suggestions for someone seeking pot/hash in HK while there?

3. I suggest the Cyber Mall in Shan Tung St., or Sino Center (Nathan Rd). Both in Mongkok. Wide and good porn DVD and VCD selection for HK$10 per gisk or so.

But why don't you do torrent and D/L them from the internet for free?

4. Drugs can get you a long jail term in HK. Be carefull.

Cebu Local

10-23-05, 00:29

Jjbinks18

10-23-05, 07:38

Newbie here Where does one get REal Viagra or Cialis and the prices here in
Hong kong. I heard that In Jordan road is available.

Thanks for info

Jjbinks18

10-23-05, 09:15

Seemed to have lost it. Where does one obtain V or C here in Hong Kong and about the prices. I heard that it is available in Jordan road Pharmacies without prescription?

Thanks for the advice.

Pimp Wyld

10-24-05, 02:51

Frequent Flier

10-24-05, 07:10

Newbie here Where does one get REal Viagra or Cialis and the prices here in
Hong kong. I heard that In Jordan road is available.

Thanks for info

When I am there I would walk into a pharmacy on Nathan road just down from the Holiday Inn Golden Mile and ask for Ibuprofen, as that is not normally sold off the shelf. The point is to begin by asking any question about a typical need for some back pain or headaches, whatever, just pick something to start the conversation. Once you have the Pharmacist attention then ask about viagra or cialis. I have always received what I asked for when I did this. Truth is I was purchasing this for customers in town with me. I do not like the side effects.

There has also been a large amount of news recently about the potential for blindness being caused by both these enhancement drugs, so I would be careful if you were not really in need.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/05/27/health/main698328.shtml

Wolf

10-24-05, 08:50

You can ask for both in any pharmacy that has the announcement on the shop window. They almost all sell them. Easy. Just enter and ask. Most of the customers in the pharmacy if any would not speak English so do not be shy. Any place in Hong Kong. Especially in Mongkok and on Nathan road.

Enjoy.

Wolf

Ebauche

10-24-05, 10:35

Had a nice time in HK recently. Hit Mong Kok twice. My favorite shop is at 500 Shanghai. They've upgraded quite a bit since I've been there last. Upgraded rooms - bigger showers, mirrored walls & ceiling, etc. Quality of girls has slipped a bit though - seem a bit older. Maybe the younger ones are mostly 141 now? Can't really beat a rim-job, BBBJ, and Asian squat-thrusting for <$45USD.

Better time was a supposedly non-pro I picked up at Someplace Else. Philippina girl - claimed to be a model back home for a small undergarment & cosmetic company. Name of company checked out in internet search. Bought her a burger ($15USD with drink), then took her home. Claimed she was just doing this to help her poor widowed mother. She was on a trip with other friends, and while they went bar-hopping, she decided to earn a little cash. Never mentioned a $amount, jsut wanted me to "help" her. Very pretty face and figure, with a JLo ass.

She was crying and upset, saying she'd never done this before, never even given her b-friend a BJ. I agreed NOT to fuck her, but that I would only help to the degree she satisfied me. She agreed to a BBBJ, vrying and wimpering the whole time. I had her licking my balls, and trying to suck my cock w/o gagging. Her technique was amatuerish, but the entire scene was playing out to be interesting. Finally, I had her suck my balls while I jacked off, and had her take my cock in her mouth just before I came. I told her, I am going to come, and you had better keep your mouth right there. Take it all in a swallow. She did, gagging and spluttering, then ran for the bathroom and threw up in the can.

It was probably all an act, but it was interesting in a sick perverted way. I gave her only $20US (she wanted USD) plus her burger. She asked for more "help." I said, let me fuck you in the ass, and we'll talk. She walked out, pleading for me to pretend that we were internet chat-pals if we crossed paths while she was with her friends. Gave me her name, email, and digits.

Jjbinks18

10-24-05, 12:48

Wolf

10-24-05, 16:18

Cialis box of 4 at HK$380 if I rem,ember well. Believe than Vitamin V is about the same. Easy to check anyway. Just ask in any pharmacy. I may ask next week when I shall visit again and will let you know exactly.

Cheers

FurryFriend

10-25-05, 03:45

Hello fellow mongerers.

I'm curious about how girls perceive black guys, especially from the US, Africa, etc. To girls turn down guys of other races because of size issues, etc? I’m stopping over for New Years and would like to know if this will be a problem.

Indeed, it is a tad bit flattering to be turned down because they think I might break them, but in the end I don’t want to leave without getting any.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Wyld

Hate to say this, but if black guys are turned down in Hong Kong, it has nothing to do with size. It's just an excuse to hide a bit of racism. No one is going to tell you "sorry, I don't do black guys". They'd rather decline your offer by saying something flattering, like "sorry, but your huge throbing virile penis is just too much for a little thing like me".

Most providers in Hong Kong are from mainland China. They are not exactly the most sophisticated or worldly bunch. Like most ignorant people, they have deeply held sterotypical attitudes towards those outside their race. I hate to say this, but if you're black, your options are limited in Hong Kong. You might try the Filipino bars in Wanchai where the ladies are more likely to hook up interracially. If you call one of the providers listed on the ******.com website, make sure you tell them you're black. It will avoid an embarassing situation if you show up and the provider is uncomfortable performing for you.

Frequent Flier

10-25-05, 05:59

Hello fellow mongerers.

I'm curious about how girls perceive black guys, especially from the US, Africa, etc. To girls turn down guys of other races because of size issues, etc? I’m stopping over for New Years and would like to know if this will be a problem.

Indeed, it is a tad bit flattering to be turned down because they think I might break them, but in the end I don’t want to leave without getting any.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Wyld

Furry friend is on target here. I have traveled to Hong Kong and mainland China with a co-worker who is African American. He is very dark and also has no problem picking up action back home in the USA. When in mainland China he sometimes has to spend a little more time to find a girl who is willing to go with him. We always went to the same place and after about three visits it became easier and easier for him.

In Hong Kong you will find resistance in the disco's in Wan Chai, because of the racism Furry talked about. But in the go go bars, although expensive, you will find a girl who is willing to go with you no problem.

FF

Pimp Wyld

10-25-05, 12:14

Ahh I see. I was afraid of that. Hah perhaps I was a little too 'cocky' before posting my question.

I'm visiting in a few month's time for a few days so I might as well Forge ahead and try. I wonder if the situation in Macau is any better. Maybe I should take a day trip there.

I'll put Wanchai on my list. Any recommended gogo bars?

And Thanks again. I appreciate the advice.

Wyld

Cebu Local

10-25-05, 23:11

Buko Max

10-25-05, 23:53

I'll put Wanchai on my list. Any recommended gogo bars?
Wyld

Check out the HK maps section. All the bars on the map come highly recommended.

Mattrick

Jet Guy 2

10-26-05, 03:33

Thanks for all the high quality info posted here.

It's clear from reading the reports that the Holiday Inn bar is well supplied with girls. Here's the question: are there other good hotels for which this is also true? Specifically how about the Hyatt, Sheraton, Island Shangri La?

I like the idea of shopping at these bars so would appreciate any info - also any negative info if these hotels are not girl friendly.

Thanks in advance

John Smart

10-26-05, 11:42

Firebird

10-26-05, 12:46

Jet Guy - I have staid at the Hyatt and the Sheraton - neither have a "good" bar where talent hangs out. Hari's Bar in the Holiday Inn can provide a selection of talent. Also as you walk on Nathan Street you will be approaches by girls looking to give you a "special" massage. The best options for selection are in the bars in Wanchai area such as Fenwicks. If you read past reports in the forum all of this will be outlined for you.
Firebird

Thanks for all the high quality info posted here.

It's clear from reading the reports that the Holiday Inn bar is well supplied with girls. Here's the question: are there other good hotels for which this is also true? Specifically how about the Hyatt, Sheraton, Island Shangri La?

I like the idea of shopping at these bars so would appreciate any info - also any negative info if these hotels are not girl friendly.

Thanks in advance

LuvumBare

10-26-05, 18:42

I have done quite well at Hari's in the Holiday Inn over the past 5 years. You find a mix of locals, Thais, Filipinos and an occassional Russian or other EE.
Not a nest of 10s but some solid 8+s and 9-s. Shop early as the crowd thins out by midnight. After that time you may get a very nice one who has just finished a ST and is now looking for an airconditioned room with min-bar so she will have a comfortable night.

The male crowd shopping in HAri's are older, white, usually US, UK, Aussie or German. You will also see some local guys there but they are just posturing because they can get better for less elsewhere.

The bar on the first floor of the Hyatt is primarily a Filipino place with some very fine choices. It is a much less frenetic environment than Hari's with better lighting so you don't get a nasty "bright light" surprise.

If you stay at the Holiday Inn, you can also go "elevator shopping" in the morning after breakfast. Anytime from 0800 to 1000 all you need to do is stand around the elevators and watch the ladies depart from the TLN's.

If you catch the eye of one, she will get back on the elevator and off you go to your room. I have had some of my cheapest and best girls this way. If they are working for the mama in Hari's and mama knows she did a TLN, mama gets her usual cut. If the girl can grab a morning quicky for an hour or two, she keeps all the money herself.

Outside on Nathan Rd. you will find some SW's but be careful. If you want to hop on an Indian or Pakistani lady, shop the corner of Nathan and Moody starting around 1900. If you eat in the coffee shop of the Holiday Inn, you can look out over this corner and watch the action.

One evening I was watching a group of Indian girls and one looked up and noticed my interest. I smiled and indicated I was eating but I would visit her when finished. After finished my meal, I walked out of the hotel, she met me, we agreed on 400ST and went off to my room. A very interesting experience as she was a bit on the pudgy side compared to the Asian girls and she was very acceptable to anal at no extra charge. Even a long shower failed to remove all the curry order, but for a quick, cheap hump - nt too bad.

A good sauna is down Mody Rd near Hanoi Rd. It is called Sunny Island and they do a nice job. I have not been in HK for almost 12 months so I don't know is SI is still around.

Fast Eddie 48

10-26-05, 20:50

There's been a lot of discussion concerning the good quality of the service at KP -- and that for $390 (before 4 pm) or $420 you get a good bang for your buck.

Check out the air bed / Thai soapie scene (if you've done Christins in Phuket you'll know the idea). At KP, you pay for an extra half session -- gives you 70 mins in all rather than 45. Costs an extra half. Approx extra $200 (no extra room charge; thats still $88). And you get a great soapie tit massage. Choose a girl with a good rack -- Lily (Leelee) with her half-real(?) rack is really excellent with them bristols.

thanks john

i have been to kp 3 time , they never offer me this service , i did saw the
air bed in the shower ask my gf what is it for she just smile at me , 200 hkd
more i think i will go for it next time 25 min more do you get 2 shots.

fast eddie 48

John Smart

10-27-05, 04:02

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]i have been to kp 3 time , they never offer me this service , i did saw the air bed in the shower ask my gf what is it for she just smile at me , 200 hkd more I think i will go for it next time 25 min more do you get 2 shots.

2 shots I dunno bout. Some guys have commented previously on how some of the girls at KP work at giving you a second one if you cum quick n early.

I wd think its quite possible and that youd just slip the girl $100 extra, something like that. There wdnt be any need to 'negotiate' the 2nd shot beforehand Idve thought - not at good ole KP anyway.

BugsBunny

10-28-05, 02:51

Hey folks. I thought I would relate my experience last night about which I have mixed reactions. On the VERY positive side, the ease and hassle-free nature of K Pressure was just what I was looking for!! I am not the most aggressive mogerer out there and this was a huge plus. Also, this board has some of the most informative posts I have seen related to any place I have travelled and I want to thank all of those who have contributed!!

My experience was a bit different than others I have read here. Finding the place was a breeze even though I don't know a bit of Chinese. As expected I was quickly ushered into a room with a TV and the papasan asked if I had been there before and such. Made it clear that the prices was HK$520 for everything. No problem.

He brought in the first girl. Language was an immediate barrier. She was a 7-8 body but only 6-7 face. She was enthusiastic, however. Tried to chat a bit. Then she was shown out and I was asked if she was OK. I asked to see another girl and shortly another arrived. Perhaps a solid 8 body (larger breasts which I personally like) and 7 face, but she was not very enthusiastic. She figured out I did not speak Chinese and simply sat watching TV. Out she went. A mamasan came in and asked me what I thought. Perhaps it was language barrier, but I got the distinct impression I had to choose from these two girls. I chose girl #1.

Seems like a waited a long time before the papasan returned, I paid him and shortly after, Mo Mo (I think that is what she said her name was) returned and we headed upstairs.

Now I am a bit concerned that my physical size was an issue for the girls. I am a 6ft5in (~196cm) tall guy, big, but in reasonably good shape. It seemed the girls were a bit afraid of my size though.

So we head to the room. She showers me as detailed in other posts and by sign asks if I want BBBJ.. but of course! Off to a nice start, though she is clearly not used to the guy's member being as for off the floor as mine. Then to the bed and more BBBJ doing a nice job with the ice and all. She signals asking if I want to CIM. I told her it might take a bit of work, which she interpreted as no [see my following post on Viagra/Cialis have nothing on Caverject! for explanation]. Things are going well thought slightly mechanical. I'm not going to complain on that front though.

So then the cover goes on and she is making it clear she wants me to stay laying on my back. She mounts and does some nice riding for a bit. Then turns around and does the "Thai squat" as I think someone else described it. What a wonderful thing! Now I don't think I am much above average in member size, but she seemed hesitant to take the full length, thought she did. She also seemed very hesitant to let me get on top or from behind -- I was not allowed to move too much. Is it normal for them to be concerned about larger guys hurting them? I got the impression she did not want to get crushed or thrown around too much. So anyway, after a bit of the old squat routine I can't hold it anymore and let loose.

This is all fine a good, but I am not ready to stop [see my next post]. She doesn't understand that I'm not done and immediately ready for another round. Not really her fault due to the language barrier, but very disappointing none the less.

She pulls off the cover and cleans me up a bit. Then she offers a foot massage which I gladly accept. She does a pretty good job here, but I have a throbbing member and it is getting no attention. So then she indicates its shower time and she is cleaning me up. She is a bit surprised at the hard on I have, but does little about it. The phone rings while we are in the shower and we hurry on out.

A final unusual bit here is that I believe every post about K Pressure indicated an after event check with the customer. This did not happen. Is this unusual?

So I headed back to my hotel in Sha Tin somewhat satisfied.

Tonight, I will likely head back there before I have to leave on Saturday morning unless others can give me advice on alternatives.

-BugsBunny

BugsBunny

10-28-05, 10:15

OK folks... This is in explanation for part of my pervious (err next?) post. I don't know if any of you have heard of Caverject (brand name for alprostadil). As a man with ED, this has save my life. It also has some very nice benefits. Viagra didn't work for me and this really did the trick. Unfortunately, it means I need to stick a needle in my member before sex, but this is a small price to pay to be able to have sex.

Anyhow, this works by essentially increasing blood flow to the penis. The trick is that this is not associated with your sexual activity. "So what" you say. Well the interesting part is that even after you have released, you don't lose your erection. You can just keep on chuggin' along until the next release. Depending on dose, it can keep you up for hours. I typically am pretty well done by about 2 hours, but the ladies tend to really like this.

Just thought I would share this with you :)

-BugsBunny

Ralph Kramden

10-28-05, 14:27

BB

A friend of mine in his 60's was using the same method as you. He called it his "dick shots." He described it just as you did: He administered the treatment about 30 minutes before the action began, and it kept him as hard as "Christmas Candy" for about 2 hours. He said it was fantastic.

LuvumBare

10-28-05, 15:06

I like to hump as much as anyone. I am also in this same age group and need a bit of help in keeping the "Christmas Candy" in useable form.

The idea of sticking my dick with a needle is fearsome. Is the shot painful? Where do you inject? Do you have any problems with Customs because you have a bag full of needles?

Inquiring minds want to know.
'bare

BugsBunny

10-28-05, 16:06

[...]

The idea of sticking my dick with a needle is fearsome. Is the shot painful? Where do you inject? Do you have any problems with Customs because you have a bag full of needles?

Inquiring minds want to know.
'bare

Actually, it is not really painful... no worse than sticking yourself with a pin. I also had hesitations when my doctor explained the option. The injection in on the side of your member. It can sometimes be a bit inconvenient to need to run off and do this 10-30 minutes before sex, but it always seems to work out.

-BugsBunny

BugsBunny

10-28-05, 16:53

[...]

Do you have any problems with Customs because you have a bag full of needles?

Inquiring minds want to know.
'bare

Sorry, forgot to respond to the customs and bag-o-needles bit. I have only been asked about this once and only because I told them I had the needles. They did not show when run through the X-Ray scanners. Since I have these as a prescription, this is not too hard to deal with.

This comes in two delivery forms. One is a single-use injectable that has the advantage of convenience, and the disadvantage of waste. It is also pretty clearly a prescription-type package. The other form involves separate syringes and bottles of medication and solutions. This all comes in a kit, so doesn't look like the sort of thing a heroine user might have for example.

If you do not have it as a prescription and you should get asked about it, it could get sticky, but I suspect you would not get asked in the first place. Again, I have yet ot actually be asked.

-BugsBunny

Kens14

10-29-05, 00:44

Dear all,

I’ve been slightly remiss on my promise to report on my newbie adventures into the HK p4p scene, this is partly due to interruptions for a week long visit to Cambodia and weekends in Bangkok and Manila.

Last weekend I made my first sojourn to Fenwicks, I got there about midnight after watching the football in The White Stag (directly opposite). There were a fair number (approx 40) of Filipino, Thai, etc girls stood around and dancing in the usual ‘Wanchai Uniform’ (denim miniskirt or Jean shorts, small strappy tops, high heels). Anyway, I grabbed myself a Tsing Tao and perched to watch the action, which soon heated up. It all looked like good fun and every now and then I’d catch one of their eyes and she’d come up to ask me to dance. There were quite a few other guys there, but it certainly wasn’t like we were competing for girls ! After dancing with a few of them and having drinks and jokes I start asking about prices. The lowest price quoted for ST was HK$700, the lowest price for LT was HK$1,000, rising to HK$3,000.

Now these prices are ridiculous considering Wanchai is crawling with providers. I guess I was quoted such high prices because it was (now) 2am, Saturday night and I was pretty drunk. The girl that quoted me HK$3,000 was called Lastri and had really taken my eye. She was not particularly better looking than any of the others (all in the 5-8 range, she was around a 6-7), but she just had more class and style about her, she was also older ("at least 36" she told me). She is Indonesian, said that she used to work as a domestic helper, but is now ‘kept’ by her British ‘boyfriend’ who lives and works in HK with his Malaysian wife – so she gets the freedom to go off and enjoy herself. She kept saying “I’m not cheap because I’m not working girl” – mm, interesting concept of what makes someone a working girl !

Anyway, even though she was giving me the serious horn there was no way that I was paying HK$3K, I mean I have flown to Thailand, gone LT there and flown back for less than that ! I could get an escort for less than that. Ultimately, if I were to pay that I’d seriously regret it once I’d come. I always think that ideally we should only make LT decisions after we’ve jerked off in the mens. Now of course I NEVER do this, I always make these decisions whilst sat drunk in the bar, with a raging hard on and the girl showing all her best bits to full affect ! However, you get my drift here, I’m sure.

I said to Lastri that I was unwilling to pay that amount of money. My patter goes along the lines of “you beautiful lady, good heart, good friend of mine. I would like to give you present, but I think you a little rude to demand such a present. If we click I give you good present anyway, you should know me and trust me”. I know it’s smarmy, but essentially I think these girls are looking for stability and financial security as such they always fall for the ‘good heart’ lines. So, I say to Lastri that I’m going, give her my mobile no. and tell her that I’ll be around tomorrow afternoon if she fancies something to eat.

So, off I head to Dusk till Dawn, on the way I pass many girls in the 3-7 range, all of whom would be more than happy to provide. Dusk till Dawn is jumping and I get dancing with a KLM aircrew, get close to a Dutch girl called Hellen, who buys ME a few drinks ! So it’s back to her hotel, a swift exit for me in the morning back to Mid Levels and no cost (although she did expect me to pay my own HK$17 taxi fare !!).

At 3.30pm, sure enough my mobile chirps – it’s Lastri. We meet up in Joe Bananas for a bit of food and a few early evening drinks. As I’m up early for work the next day I have to move things along rapidly so I quickly go into the whole ‘what are you looking for in life ?’ routine (which basically taps straight into her commitment-love schema). This leaves me open to say “we’re good friends, I will give you present when you need money. Anyway, I must go now as I have work tomorrow” (it’s about 9pm). She immediately asks if she can come, I agree – before we know it we’re on Cotton Tree Drive! We had a great session, all GFE, this does mean that I couldn’t really push anything, but anal doesn’t do it for me anyway and bbbj has to be done really well for it to have any effect on me. Monday morning 5am we’re at it again and this time she wants to do it uncovered, I say no way – basically for a girl from Wanchai I live by “no jacket no smack it !! Finish 6.30am, showers, I give her HK$700 ‘present’, she seems fine with this and off we go our separate ways. Me with empty ball sack and full smile !

A few observations:

i) Wanchai is so full of providers everything is available, it is heaving with girls all over – I reckon you can get prices down to near BKK levels. I find going the GFE route seriously reduces costs anyway. However, this leads me to point ii).

ii) I live and work in Mid Levels. HK Island is such a small place that I can’t spend too much time in Wanchai as I am always seeing work colleagues, their family and friends etc. A work colleague even lives on the same floor as me in my building. It is not appropriate for me, professionally, to be seen with working girls. Clearly I will have to start going to Jordan/Mongkok, maybe even stay in a hotel over there every now and then. HK is just too claustrophobic to really monger at full tilt if you live here. Which brings me to point iii)

iii) HK is perfectly positioned for the SE Asian Mongerer. Obviously you can fly to Manila, Bangkok, Phnom Penh, etc easily and very cheaply. I have recently spent weekends in all these places. It’s great to leave work on a Fri evening and be sipping beers in BKK by 9.30pm, and to have a mongering weekend for less than the price of a big night out in London. Further, by working in HK you are likely to get paid much more than you would working in Thailand, Philippines, Cambodia etc. So, in many ways HK is a perfect base for SE Asian p4p.

Does anyone have any experience, or opinions, on The Klong Bar ? – that’s tonights destination after the North London derby.

Cheers,

Kens14

Traveler1234

10-29-05, 01:09

Dear all,

I’ve been slightly remiss on my promise to report on my newbie adventures into the HK p4p scene, this is partly due to interruptions for a week long visit to Cambodia and weekends in Bangkok and Manila.

Does anyone have any experience, or opinions, on The Klong Bar ? – that’s tonights destination after the North London derby.

Cheers,

Kens14

Ken14: great FR.

I've been an on/off monger for years -- always in LOS, Philippines and sometimes in Taiwan with my local friends. Always thought HK (and until recently China) was too expensive...relative to the others above. After your report, I will be visiting Wanchai next trip. Also looked at 141 and 168 websites for walk in ST action!

Like you, I travel to Asia -- but only on business and need to be 'fresh' every morning, even weekends. And being north of 50 yrs old, don't have the same stamina as the younger guys. Hope to score and post a FR after my next visit.

Member #2634

10-29-05, 04:01

Hi All,

was staying at the sheraton and decided to walk in to the bar on te 1st floor @ holiday inn nathan road.
Pleasantly surprised to see a lot of chicas there. In fact no place to sit. Despite being indian looking soon after I ordered a beer(and I was still standing as there was no place to sit) and was immediately winked at by 2 largely endowed russians. Chatted up with sarah and found out that she was half chinese and half russian. So large boobs and small eyes. Quote for ST was $1000 but we settled on $600 for an hour.
She took a shower and started by a good BBJ, large nipples and firm boobs(my favourite kind). Went at it for about 30 mins when I popped my first load. After a short rest, she wanted to go for round no.2 but I kept it a BBJ only. Paid her and she left.
Lotsa toungue kissing and a total GF exp. Highly recommended to all fellow mongers. Much better than wanchai.

Restless

10-29-05, 04:45

i was in hk for a few days and only had one evening to look for some fun. after all the positive postings here, i decided to try k pressure. i even stayed strategically at the majestic hotel (only about 3 blocks away). i thought the entrance was on jordan, so i walked around the area looking for the entrance. i should preface by saying i’m of chinese descent, raised in the us, and fluent in mandarin. my ability to read some chinese added to the confusion as i saw a sign for k pressure (the k was the only english part of the sign) on jordan. i finally went in the entrance to a place (i believe literally translated as gold pressure) on woosung, about 20’ from the corner. it wasn’t until much later that i realized i was in the right place.

this was around 10:30 pm and the price was $520 for everything. it took about 15 minutes before the first girl showed up (i think her name is something like bobo); i passed as she was slightly on the chubby side. the second girl showed up 5 minutes later (face 6, body 7, age upper 20’s) and was much more enthusiastic (she grabbed my crotch as we were talking). although i wanted to see more girls, the manager recommended the 2nd girl, and said she may get taken as they were very busy. as it was getting late, i accepted.

up in the room, i was thoroughly cleaned in the shower, especially the anus (she stuck a finger in; i think this was the first time i’ve been penetrated). after that, it was on to some of the best bbbj i can remember, and the deepest and longest ar i’ve ever had. i have to give a for effort (unfortunately, i don’t remember her name). she then sat on top as we got to real business. after a few strokes, she invited me to drive, so we rolled over into missionary. when i was done, she lit a cigarette and took a few puffs (she said no when i asked if she always smokes afterward). she then said we should rest a while, get a shower, and get more time to go for another round. i passed as i had to get up fairly early the next morning to catch a flight (i didn’t ask for details on how the time extension works). i gave her $100 as tip; she was happy with that and gave me a peck on the lips. i was led back to the room downstairs. the manager came in to ask about the service (with special attention on the ar) and if i was happy with the girl (i was). we talked a bit more; he gave me a card and i left.

i found out a few things chatting with the girl that i can share. she is from the mainland (guangdong province), and worked in a clothing store before coming to hk. she paid (borrowed) $50,000 hk for a fake marriage with a hk fellow; so, she can stay as long as she wants. she generally works from 8pm to 6am, with maybe 1 day off each week. she’s been doing this for about 2 months, and plans to do this for no more than 1 year. after she “retires,” she plans to open her own clothing store.

she also told me that she does not want caucasian customers due to their penis size. i asked how she knew it was too big; she pointed to the porn that was showing on tv. i did my part for the caucasian brothers by telling her that the guys in porn movies are not typical. she also told me there are girls at kp (not her) who are willing to take it from behind, just ask the manager. if i had more time in hk, i probably would have asked her to spend some time with me away from kp. oh well, maybe next time.

up until this experience, i’ve only been to the saunas in hk (which is ok, but you can’t really pick the girl). i have had “night club” experience in macau (see recent post on that board), and offer some comparisons based on my admittedly limited kp experience . the clubs in macau are nicer (bigger, fancier, more girls), although more expensive. the girls there are prettier and younger, but less experienced; some of the girls are just teenagers (bear in mind, chinese girls typically mature more slowly than western/ caucasian girls). the pace in macau is more relaxed as you do have a lot more time to indulge in the pleasures (typically up to 2 hours after you pick the girl). it’s also a plus that the rooms in kp are all self-contained (as mentioned in the macau post, i definitely prefer not to ride in regular hotel elevators with a seductively-dressed woman draped around me). so, i think kp offers good bang for the buck. for a lot less money, and in less time, i enjoyed my kp experience at least as much as clubs in macau.

Drjoker69

10-29-05, 22:23

In response to hsman71 's message below,

From posted trip reports on here, it seems that the Monkok brothels are illegal, raided often, and have slightly older girls. Being a foreigner who wants to avoid trouble, I decided to avoid these places. Besides, I really don't want to financially support mafia activities.

Discos/Clubs seem like a fishing expedition as not all girls are pros. Some do it for free and some just wanna dance (hey, it IS a disco) ? Since my time in Hong Kong (HK) is limited, I don't want to go fishing. I want a sure thing.

This leaves only the ******.com website as my only remaining option. However, I don't know any Chinese! Well, brave brothers, this is no problem because almost everything is in English since HK is a former British colony. It's EZ if you follow these steps;

1. Buy a map. Not just any old map, but THE MAP of HK that has every nook and cranny of HK on it. The map is a 300+ page booklet called "Hong Kong Guide 2005". It is made by the "Survey & Mapping Office Lands Department" of HK. To get a map, go to the "Map Publications Centre" by taking the subway (MTR) and getting off the Jordan station. Take either exit A or B (sorry, I forgot which side of the street it is on). Go North on Jordan St (buy a pocket compass). It is one of the biggest streets in HK, so you can't miss it. You should go past Cheong Lok St, then Saigon St. If you don't pass these 2 streets, then you're going South, not North. It should take you no more than 15 minutes of walking to get there. The address is 382 Nathan Rd, Yau Ma Tei. If you get lost, just find someone who is dressed in a suit and ask. All educated people in HK know English. They are open from Mo-Fr 9-5, Sa 9-12. Phone is 2780 0981. The map is in English and, usually, they'll have an English-speaking person keeping shop. The map costs $120 HK ($15 US).

2. Go to http://www.******.com and find a girl with an address listed and no phone number listed. Why no phone number? Dude, remember that I said all EDUCATED people in HK know English. Do you seriously expect a pimp or prostitute to have a degree?! Just show up during her listed hours of business and knock on the door. If she answers the door and she has an ugly face, then just say you have the wrong address and knock on another door (most girls who do this tend to have neighbors who also do this). There are pictures of the girls, ratings, comments, measurements, address, hours of business, comments, prices, age, even pictures of her apartment building, her street, and her front door on the website. You can't miss it. They all have an actual picture of the girl listed on the website. Just the face is blurred out. All the girls' ads are arranged at the top of the website by their proximity to certain subway stations.

I have never had a girl try to rip me off or charge more than what was listed on ******. This is because the ****** website has a forum on there where guys could swap trip reports. If a girl pulls this stunt, then her customers will vaporize. This will screw her more than you since she has already pre-paid for the room. I try to go early in the day to avoid being rushed by other customers. I have never had a girl rush me by telling me to hurry up, but that's because the other customers will do that for her. Some blokes will knock and jabber in Chinese. I'm guessing that they're telling you to hurry up. I have never had this problem whenever I go before 4 PM on a weekday. Another reason for going during the day is because this is NOT a *****house, but a private apartment complex you're going to. The security guard will stop you and ask in Chinese why you're there if you go at night. If you cannot answer in Chinese, then you will be refused entrance. Basically, you're paying for 30 minutes or until you shoot your load, whichever cums first. The girls are always squeaky clean because most girls will take a shower with you before and afterwards. Because of the showers, I usually run a little overtime, but the time is not strictly enforced if there are no other customers waiting outside. That's why I always go early in the day. If you are a nice return customer, the girls will give you a real nice girlfriend experience (GFE).

I've never had a girl for overnight, so I can't answer the question about overnight prices. These girls probably will not do an all-nighter because of saftey concerns. They work solo so they don't have a pimp to protect them from abusive customers. They work in these apartments because these girls band together so that they can hit a panic button to summon the other girls in case someone got abusive. Since prostitution is LEGAL (only brothels are illegal) if it is a one woman operation, the girls will even call the cops on an abusive customer. If she meets you away from her apartment, then she is away from her safety net. Trust me, I've gone through some elaborate sign language and broken Chinese/English to ask and this is what I've gathered as the reason why apartment girls refuse all-nighters at your hotel. As for an all-nighter at her apartment, do you really want to wake up to the sound of impatient mongers pounding on your door the next morning?! LOL !!!

The cost is usually $300-400 HK (< $50 US) for a really attractive girl (8-9 on a 1-10 scale) for 30 min. Never tip and pay more than the stated amount on the website or you will ruin it for the next foreigner because the girls will expect foreigners to pay more. If she is really good, I'll let her keep the change if she charges $380 and I have $400. My favorite area is Coronet Court and Maylun Apt by the North Point subway station. This is a safe part of town. The girls at Coronet Court are a bit younger than the ones at Maylun Apt. This area serves mostly locals so the girls are reasonably priced and customer service oriented for repeat business. The area I would avoid is Tsim Sha Tsui. There are a lot of hotels there, so the girls are not oriented towards repeat business. They're often bitchy, overpriced, and you'll have to arrange for an appointment with a pimp who barely speaks English. These girls will visit you at your hotel room, so if you have any valuables, better hide them in the hotel's vault. The girls at Tsim Sha Tsui aren't any better looking, but if you are homesick, this is the only neighborhood where you'll find white chicks working. They're usually British chicks who rate 6-8. Most girls will not have a review on here, but they will have a review on the ****** website. However, the ****** website's reviewers are all posting in Chinese, so please help a fellow brother out by doing the following;

1. Post reviews of the girls you visit on the ****** website on the internationalsexguide forum. Post photos of the girls, if possible. Let us know what activities she allowed and what she refused. For example, you could say, "This girl allows vaginal and finger penetration, but refuses anal". Let us know her name, subway station, and address. This is necessary because many girls have the same name. Also, let us know if she speaks English and how well she speaks it. I have had my best sessions with girls who spoke no English. Sign language is good enough, but some other guys may find this language info helpful. Also, let us know her attitude. Was she nice, bitchy, sexy, or what? Take additional pictures of the outside of the girl's apartment and directions to get there from the nearest subway station.

2. Post GPS coordinates of the girls' building. I know, it is hard to get a lock on a GPS satellite in the concrete jungle that is Hong Kong. I have had to get GPS coordinates from the little island in the middle of the street near the girl's apartment before. This is because the middle of the street is the only place where there is a clear view of the sky.

Stay safe and have fun,
Drjoker69

P.S. Directions to Coronet Court and Maylun Apt;
Coronet Court
1. Take the MTR to North Point.
2. Take exit B2
3. Go west on King's Rd past Kam Ping St. If you do not pass Kam Ping St, you may be going east (wrong way). King's Rd is one of the biggest streets of HK, so you can't miss it.
4. Coronot Court is on your right hand side (north side). The address is 321 King's Rd.

Directions to Maylun Apt
1. Take the MTR to North Point.
2. Take exit B1
3. It is almost directly across the street from the MTR exit. The address is 23 Shu Kuk St.

I'm not posting any reports of girls because I was there a year ago and all the girls that I saw have already quit the profession. A lot of them are from China on a tourist visa. They have to leave after just 1 month.

Furthermore, I just bought a GPS unit last week on eBay. I haven't had a chance to use it in HK yet as I am an American living in the USA.

Dear Bro,

This is my first trip to HK and appreciate if someone can guide me on my coming trip on 141 location.

1) Is the rate posted on the 141 site is fixed price, no negotiation?

2) How about the rate for over nite for local or PRC gals?

3) for those gals with address, we have to go to the find the place by ourselves? How difficult is it to find the place?

Thank you.

hsman 71

Joe Banana

10-30-05, 12:22

good report kens14. how did you like klong bar, i find it a good place for what you might call thai tapas, have a beer and a few small bites to eat. you can sit on the street and observe all the filipina pussy heading for fenwicks opposite or laguna round the corner.
as far as that goes many of the filipinas are now "tourists" rather than maids doing a bit on the side. that means for some of them they have a "manager" to pay before they get any money themselves. this is because their airfare from manila and their accomodation in hk is paid for them, they come for up to a month and have to earn their keep in that time. lowest initial offer from them seems to be $1500 of which $500 goes straight to the manager, you can get this down to $1000 lt fairly easily. $500 lt is very difficult and only possible with true freelancers.
i have to say that the increase in tourists has been a good thing as it has lead to a regular change in girls many of whom are not pros at home and give good gfe. they also have expenses to pay so are keen to do a deal unlike the maids who can have more a take it or leave it attitude.
i picked up a girl from there a couple of weeks ago and only realised how pissed she was when we were in the taxi. she needed a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and before i knew it had dropped her knickers and pissed in the footwell of the cab. by the time we got to the hotel she was staggering about and i decided to dump her. i speeded up down the hotel corridor and before she knew it i had disappeared. she banged on a few doors before clearing off. i felt a bit bad but if i was pissed like that at work i would lose my job, she lost her pay for that evening. i would have regretted even more paying for crap service.
i haven't considered having a fling in the lav like you kens but it is a pity you can't get a quick bj in wanchai to stave off the lust a bit like in the bangkok bj bars. i only once have had my cock sucked in the new makati, but it was all a bit open there and i had to get her to stop as i felt too exposed!

Kens14

10-30-05, 12:50

It is my mission to research and report on the HK scene, and, to try to find out where and how we can maximise our bangs per buck. Please see earlier reports on Dusk till Dawn/ Stawberry Cafe and Fenwicks.

Saturday night starts with the usual routine of watching the English football at the White Stag in Lockhart Rd. Now guys, I'm not particularly young, nor good looking, but I really think that the freebie Westerner action in Lockhart rd has the potential to impact on the local professional providers. In the space of 2 hrs in the White Hart I got talking to four girls (3 from UK, 1 from Australia) who I could definately have taken to bed. Two of these girls were kindergarden teachers in HK, basically living in shared girls flats and desperate for a bit of male company, less bathroom crowding and missing boyfriends / usual western opportunities. The other 2 girls were in groups of travellers / tourists. I felt that they were more amenable to sex because, in the case of one girl, she was on her way to Australia and saw it as a very temporary no-strings fun. The other girls were excited by the whole HK experience, were on holiday and definately liked the idea of being shown round by an expat. Remember, these girls find it difficult to connect with local guys (language issues, meeting arena problems etc) as such they have a much smaller pool of guys to draw on for action- suddenly our chances really increase ! However, I was not interested in freebie westerners. I've spent too many years with these girls in Europe, I didn't move 7,000 miles to dib British girls. Ultimately, I know that in the long run these 'freebies' could be much more expensive than p4p with Asian girls.

So, at 12.30pm it was onto The Klong Bar, virtually next door to White Stag. Downstairs the Klong is a rather upmarket bar / restaurant are. The food was great, there were mainly legitimate couples and straight groups of friends enjoying Saturday evening drinks/food. However, it was clear to the trained eye that there were also available local girls eating and drinking before moving upstairs.

1am I go upstairs which is like an upmarket Bangkok club (a bit like a dark Bed Supper Club) - lots of dark nooks and crannys to lie on floor cushions and get up to all sorts, a dance floor and good seating around it to watch the action. The place starting filling up with working girls, the range was 3-8, age range 18-40, the full spread of HK - ie PRC girls, local HK, Filipino's, Indonesian, Thai, etc. The ratio of men to women was at least 1:3, further, many of the men were there with their girlfriends (tourists, locals, expats etc). So, really a smorgasbord for the SE Asian conoisseur !

I really liked it here, it was like a legitimate more chilled out Fenwicks in a much nicer venue. The choice was, if anything, better than Fenwicks because there were fewer guys. To all intents and purposes it's a legitimate disco, so I didn't get those sordid, guilt ridden, feelings that I often get in the field. It was v.relaxed, and I didn't get grabbed or hassled. However, make eye contact, give a few smiles, walk over and the girl was more than happy to dance, drink and laugh at my corny jokes. Basically, fun with guaranteed results !

So after chatting and dancing with a few girls I made my choice. Her name is Belinda, a late 30's Filipino woman, I'd give her a 6 for the face, a 7 for the body (larger tits than most available in HK). I don't really like the 18-24 year old girls, I find they just don't understand the 'your my friend' game I play. They are either far too mercenary (it puts me off when it feels like a purely financial transaction), or they actually fall for me and hassle me for ages afterwards. Further, the more mature girls are much more likely to know how to perform in bed, they appreciate being well treated and are more likely to reciprocate.

I used the usual lines with Belinda - "you're my friend and you can come and stay with me tonight if you want. I like to give my friends presents, would you like a present of HK$1,000 tomorrow ?". She liked the whole idea, so we grab a cab and head off.

Back at the flat we drink, chat and fool around. She was up for anything in bed, was totally GFE with lots and lots of DFK, and seemed eager to do bbbj. She had a nice tight pussy (as all Asian girls do), got wet v.quickly with a bit of fingering, seemed to get off both in mish and with her on top. At 4am we drop off to sleep exhausted. At 10am we start again, but this time it's that slow, deep, intimate sex which you only get when you're snug, bleary eyed and horny after a night of cuddling under the duvet. This is the main reason I like to take them long time. At 1pm I give her coffee and HK$1,000 and HK$20 for taxi. She was very happy, lots of 'I like to see you again".

I liked Klong Bar because I didn't feel like a mongerer (like at Fenwicks), I felt like I was on a normal night out, just with the odds stacked very much in my favour. I am told that the lions at a safari park like to run after the truck whilst meat is thrown out to them, rather than the meat just being dumped in one place. It gives them the feeling that they've hunted the meat down. The Klong gave me the feeling that I'd actually chatted up and pulled Belinda, I know that this is not the truth, but maybe both guys and girls all prefer the verisimilitude of the chase.

Joe Banana

10-30-05, 13:14

Another good report Kens, I must try upstairs at the Klong. For early evening you ought to give Laguna a try from about 7pm on, it is upstairs just round the corner from Fenwick, it is finished by 10pm as most have moved on to Fenwick.
Be careful in Dusk til Dawn, I am an experienced drinker and have ended up with far too big a headache relative to the amount drunk. Other friends and regular wanchaiers are convinced you can get drugged in there if not careful.

Kens14

10-30-05, 14:37

JoeB,

many thanks for your advice on Dusk till Dawn, only been there a few times, but will now keep my Tsing Tao with me at all times!

I think you've identified my next hunting location - The Laguna, I'll RTFF on the scene in preparation. One small issue that you may be able to help me on though. Are there any Wanchai hotels that you'd recommend for ST, or even, LT ? I'm getting quite worried about bringing these girls back to my flat. Primarily they know where I live and therefore could turn up and hassle me at any time. Secondly, I live in a 'nice' Mid Levels building - the security guys are OK about me bringing girls back & forth - they just give me a knowing smile, but I'm sure that before long I'm going to meet some of my ever so upright professional chinese neighbours in the lift whilst I have a wanton Wanchai wonder hanging off my arm !

Right, next weekend I'm off to Bangkok for some worry free fun. In HK I feel too open to observation from work colleagues etc. In BKK I can come out truly in the open.

Back to Wanchai on 12th Nov !

Enjoy all,

Kens14

FurryFriend

10-30-05, 20:38

Nutso

10-31-05, 09:09

For those of you looking to Klong Bar as a toned version of Fenwicks, you may see things about to change. They've got new management upstairs and they have started to implement a kick-back to the girls (ala Fenwicks, Neptunes, etc.). I used to be a regular, since I liked the low key approach, but now the women are starting to get a whole lot more aggressive. A couple of the waitresses are also starting to cop an attitude. A friend of mine who is a regular at the bar was told by a waitress that there was a $500 minimum to sit at one of the upstairs tables. Turned out to be BS once the got the manager involved. The food, service and view downstairs is still good, though.

SE Asia Joe

10-31-05, 09:21

I've occassionally bought a few pirated CD's/DVD's in China and never thought anything aobut bringing them thru Hong Kong Custom (the prices are so much cheaper and the selection - especially the U.S. Television series - are so much wider). Fortunately, I've never had my luggage searched.

A friend of mine was horrified when I told him that I did this. He told me that even for single pirated copies - the HK Customs goes all crazy and will throw the book at me. WOW!

I've also asked a few of my friends and the replies ranged from - "no problem if a few and only for your own use" - to - "Yeah they'll not only fine you HK$1,000 for each pirated disc you tried to smuggle, but they will also throw your young ass in jail for a few days. "
So what is the real story? Many thanks
SE Asia Joe

Joe Banana

10-31-05, 09:47

Kens, I've stayed in the Guandong Warney hotel, recently refurbished and only 75yds from Fenwick, you should be able to get it for 800$ or less. It was very relaxing to know that the shag pad was only a short distance away. A chance then to ST one then go back and get another. You can find cheaper I'm sure but why not be reasonably comfortable? Phone around other hotels for a special HK resident's rate or wait 'til bird 'flu takes off and you'll get a hotel for nothing.

John Smart

10-31-05, 11:20

[QUOTE=Kens14]JoeB,
Are there any Wanchai hotels that you'd recommend for ST, or even, LT ?

Ken,

The Victoria Hotels are exc for this. usu $230 or so for 2 hours. Clean, nice bathroom, towels, prono movies, 2 condoms.

The one at 209 Lockhart Rd, corner of Fleming is very good. Tel 2511-1889. Lovely discreet entrance down the side alley, right beside the pig shop. Luvvit!

Also the Beverly, 4/F, 175-191 Lockhart is good. Same sort of deal: $250 od, for 2 or 3 hrs (forget which). You can do o'night there Im sure; not sur what the rate is. Call them at 2311-8977.

MongerMania

10-31-05, 16:29

I'm coming over next week for work and they're putting me up at the Shangri-La.

Anyone know whether it's girl friendly? I don't really want a late night "visitor" charge to my account when I put it through expenses.

Also, anyone used any of the escort services? I realize they are expensive but after a work dinner and an 8am meeting I don't have huge amounts of time to monger.

Intransit

10-31-05, 17:42

Every four or five-star hotel in Hong Kong is girl-friendly. With service standards as high as they are in the hospitality industry in Hong Kong, the last thing with which hoteliers are going to concern themselves is what happens between two consenting adults in one of their rooms.

Intransit

10-31-05, 19:05

http://www.zonaeuropa.com/20051005_3.htm

"Internet Pimps in Hong Kong

"In Hong Kong, prostitution is not illegal per se. However, living off the earnings of prostitution is against the law. Here is the relevant section of the law (via InterPol)

"‘Living on the earnings of prostitution of others’, Article 137 of the Penal Code, ‘Crimes’, CAP. 200

"'(1) A person who knowingly lives wholly or in part on earnings of prostitution of another shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction on indictment to imprisonment for ten (10) years.

"(2) For the purposes of subsection (1), a person who lives with or is habitually in the company of a prostitute, or who exercises control, direction or influence over another person’s movements in a way which shows he or she is aiding, abetting or compelling that other person’s prostitution with others, shall be presumed to be knowingly living on the earnings of prostitution, unless he or she proves the contrary.'

"There is a court trial going on with a twist on the classical pimp role. The technological enabler is the Internet.

"The following details are culled from Apple Daily, Ming Pao and Oriental Daily.

"The two individuals on trial are a 37-year-old male named Cheung and a 28-year-old named Chen. The two are accused of conspiring between March 1 to September 9, 2003 to profit from the earnings of prostitution.
According to the prosecutor, the two established a company known as KCMC Limited Company and used the name of the company to rent server space on the Hong Kong Internet Service Provider Newsbook Limited. They hired a web developer and launched the website www.******.com. This website is a sex directory for Hong Kong, in which girls are listed by district, apartment building, street addresses, age, physical measurement, service ratings and fee. Ini order to get listed, the girls have to pay HK$4,000. This is a full-service operation as the men will show up at the 'workplace' to take photos and details, and then post the information into the directory. The website reportedly gets 100,000 page views per day.

"In July 2003, the website came to the attention of the police. On September 8, the police conducted a regular sweep of a 'place of ill repute' in Tsim Sha Tsui and arrested Cheung, who was taking photographs of the prostitutes at the time. The officers found a digital camera with the photographs of several prostitutes. A search of the apartments and company of the two individuals then yielded the business cards for www.******.com, the ISP contract and several computers with as many as 600,000 obscene photographs.

"Under the theory that the two individuals must know that they were deriving income from women that they must know are prostitutes and that their web service aids and abets prostitution, the two were prosecuted accordingly. While awaiting trial, the two were out on bail and have probably continued to operate www.******.com through another ISP. The trial is limited to their activities in the stated period only.

"Furthermore, they will provide detailed photo-illustrated travel instructions -- a view from the street, the stairwell and the apartment door. On the apartment door, there is a description of the occupant: 'a light-skinned, clean and pretty girl with big tits.' But watch out for the little red sign to the left -- "Please wait a moment." She is working right now.

"Here is a question -- there is probable cause to believe that www.******.com violated the Hong Kong law at the time. The Hong Kong-based ISP provided the police with information on the user. But the website is back in business through another ISP. Consider, for example, that this particular ESWN blog is hosted by Yahoo! in California (USA). If www.******.com were hosted by Yahoo! in California as well, would the ISP be obliged to cooperate with Hong Kong law enforcement? Is there even any crime for transnational Internet-based pimping? Probably not, if according to this previous post The Greatest Internet Crime Trial in China. Then those two men in this case are really being tried for being stupid enough to use a Hong Kong-based ISP."

Fast Eddie 48

11-01-05, 03:26

Brain Damaged

11-01-05, 05:00

hong kong le is alot less coruption than the le in china , may is all the training
and history under the british rule , i agree with intransit they are after the pimp and the working girl from china in hong kong illegally , i was at mongkok
shop 2 time when hk le came in to check id of the pimp , i was waiting for the
girl to arrive , they just look at me and didn't even ask for my id .

in china i have friend of my been caught in sauna during the section , the le
just ask him to paid the fine on the spot and let him go and take the girl away
but this is very rare in china . best thing is take the girl back to your hotel.

fast eddie 48

Please don't give the Brits too much credit. The Hong Kong Police Force was one of the most corrupt police forces in Asia to the mid-1970's, when the newly established Independant Commission Against Corruption (ICAC) began operations. When the ICAC began operations, the police force went on strike and the Governor granted serving police officers immunity from prosecution of crimes committed prior to the ICAC. Having said that, the enlightened laws of HK allowed men to take 2nd wives and concubines (who were recognized as legal heirs) until 1971 :-)

Kens14

11-01-05, 10:42

Sanshiro

11-01-05, 12:20

The new Landmark Mandarin, about as upscale as it gets, is completely girl friendly. Friend went to front desk and came right up no problems.

Brain Damaged

11-02-05, 03:39

Mongermania,

you're a lucky man - the Shangri-la is one of the best hotels in HK - you will be in the lap of luxury ! It is also perfectly positioned for a quick hop to Wanchai - 10 mins on foot, 2 mins in a cab.

I haven't used any escort services, but if you decide not to use the Wanchai option, the concierge at Shangri-la will be able to arrange 'anything you desire !'

Please write a fr after your trip,

enjoy !

Kens

Hi Mongermania,

As noted by Ken the Shangri-La (Hong Kong side) has a great location. You might want to check with your travel people to make sure that you're in the "Island Shangri-la" as the "Kowloon Shangri-la" (Tsim Sha Tusi East) has different environs.

Cheers,
BD

Brain Damaged

11-02-05, 04:39

Hi Mongerers,

The last few months I have been visiting some KTV's in Jordan and Mongkok more than usual. Standard operating procedure in both places, although the environments are slightly different. In Jordan, my local buddies and I go to Golden Age Nightclub, while it's 6th floor of Shun Hing Building (on Nathan Road) for Mongkok action. The difference between the two is that Golden Age is brighter, has younger, better looking gals and you go two flights up to a room for fs. In Shun Hing, where I have been mongering for about seven years, you go into an empty KTV room to have your fun. Prices for the two places are about the same at HKD300 per hour per guy for the room, beer and gal's sitting fee (HKD100 per hour without a gal, but what kind of fun is that?). FS prices are HKD300 to HKD500, and are negotiated directly with the gal. Alternatively, you can get the gal's phone number and make arrangements to meet her outside.

In both places, I found relatively new talent to the scene. My most recent interest at Golden Age is a mid-20's gal from Hangzhou. She is about 5'-2", 95 pounds with small tits (they exist, but would not be considered blunt instruments capable of inflicting bodily harm). She was a lot of fun in the dice games, and I took her upstairs a few weeks ago. When I returned to the room, my buddies complained that I was gone for two hours making them pay for extra room hours :-p In Shun Hing, I had a late-20's screamer/moaner and a 22-year old gal who just loves sex (or is a good actress). The moaner made so much noise during fs, that I thought someone would knock on the door, so I pulled out, took the cap off and stuck Mr. Happy into her mouth to keep her quiet. I finished with CIM, and she was accomodating enough not to gag and spit, but quietly wipe her mouth with a tissue. The 22-year old's family is originally from Jilin province, although she now lives in HK and tells her family that she works in a cake shop; I am tempted to ask her what her family thinks about a cake shop where the employees come home smelling of beer every night. This gal absolutely loves sex! She is leaving for Jilin in a few days, returning to HK on the 15th. I'll bonk her again outside of the KTV and let you know how it went outside of the bar environment; my friends tell me that beer and KTV lights can sometimes affect one's vision and judgement regarding the looks and personalities of the gals.

Find some local HK drinking partners to visit these places, the gals (and most mamis) do not speak english, although they understand enough to negotiate fs :-)

Cheers,
BD

Ramn HK

11-02-05, 07:01

You should thank BD for bringing to your attention that there are 2 Shangri-La's in town. If you are in the Island Shangri-La, suggest you take a quick cab to Wanchai. Too tired for mongering, then suggest you hit the girlie bars there.

Alternatively if you are in Kowloon Shangri-La, exit your hotel, walk left, cross Chatham Road and walk down Mody Road. Towards the end of the 3rd block will be the Holiday Inn. Go up to Hari's bar. They normally have a good selection there.

As for escort services, suggest you forget them. Not only are they expensive, they rarely send you what you are looking for.

In conclusion, if you take a cab to the places suggested, and make a quick pick, I am pretty sure you will get a lady in your room as fast as what an escort agency can send to your room.

Have fun in HK!

I'm coming over next week for work and they're putting me up at the Shangri-La.

Anyone know whether it's girl friendly? I don't really want a late night "visitor" charge to my account when I put it through expenses.

Also, anyone used any of the escort services? I realize they are expensive but after a work dinner and an 8am meeting I don't have huge amounts of time to monger.

Ramn HK

11-02-05, 07:08

Thanks for the information on Golden Age Nightclub. Can you give me an idea where on Jordan Road it is? Do you think its an okay place if one goes alone? Language should not be a problem for me.

Thanks!

Hi Mongerers,

The last few months I have been visiting some KTV's in Jordan and Mongkok more than usual. Standard operating procedure in both places, although the environments are slightly different. In Jordan, my local buddies and I go to Golden Age Nightclub, while it's 6th floor of Shun Hing Building (on Nathan Road) for Mongkok action. The difference between the two is that Golden Age is brighter, has younger, better looking gals and you go two flights up to a room for fs. In Shun Hing, where I have been mongering for about seven years, you go into an empty KTV room to have your fun. Prices for the two places are about the same at HKD300 per hour per guy for the room, beer and gal's sitting fee (HKD100 per hour without a gal, but what kind of fun is that?). FS prices are HKD300 to HKD500, and are negotiated directly with the gal. Alternatively, you can get the gal's phone number and make arrangements to meet her outside.

In both places, I found relatively new talent to the scene. My most recent interest at Golden Age is a mid-20's gal from Hangzhou. She is about 5'-2", 95 pounds with small tits (they exist, but would not be considered blunt instruments capable of inflicting bodily harm). She was a lot of fun in the dice games, and I took her upstairs a few weeks ago. When I returned to the room, my buddies complained that I was gone for two hours making them pay for extra room hours :-p In Shun Hing, I had a late-20's screamer/moaner and a 22-year old gal who just loves sex (or is a good actress). The moaner made so much noise during fs, that I thought someone would knock on the door, so I pulled out, took the cap off and stuck Mr. Happy into her mouth to keep her quiet. I finished with CIM, and she was accomodating enough not to gag and spit, but quietly wipe her mouth with a tissue. The 22-year old's family is originally from Jilin province, although she now lives in HK and tells her family that she works in a cake shop; I am tempted to ask her what her family thinks about a cake shop where the employees come home smelling of beer every night. This gal absolutely loves sex! She is leaving for Jilin in a few days, returning to HK on the 15th. I'll bonk her again outside of the KTV and let you know how it went outside of the bar environment; my friends tell me that beer and KTV lights can sometimes affect one's vision and judgement regarding the looks and personalities of the gals.

Find some local HK drinking partners to visit these places, the gals (and most mamis) do not speak english, although they understand enough to negotiate fs :-)

Cheers,

BD

Hsman71

11-02-05, 19:13

To Drjoker69,

Hats off for your detailed explanation in which I believe will benefit all the forum members here. I will depart soon to HK and hope for any good advanture to share.

Thanks

HSman71

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In response to hsman71 's message below,

From posted trip reports on here, it seems that the Monkok brothels are illegal, raided often, and have slightly older girls. Being a foreigner who wants to avoid trouble, I decided to avoid these places. Besides, I really don't want to financially support mafia activities.

Road Lover

11-03-05, 03:44

There used to be some good massage parlours where you get good massage and then good full service. They all seem to be shut down now? I went to the only massage parlour I saw in th Wanchai district, where they sent me an old women to give good masssage, but nothing extra. She would not even do HJ, not that I want that from her. It was so clean I thought I ws in SIngapore!

Can anybody give me names and maps to a good clean and friendly massage place where they also offer full service?

Road Lover

11-03-05, 03:45

There used to be some good massage parlours where you get good massage and then good full service. They all seem to be shut down now? I went to the only massage parlour I saw in th Wanchai district, where they sent me an old women to give good masssage, but nothing extra. She would not even do HJ, not that I want that from her. It was so clean I thought I ws in Singapore!

Can anybody give me names and maps to a good clean and friendly massage place where they also offer full service?

Drjoker69

11-03-05, 07:34

Yes, they will throw the book at you! Don't do it! If you do choose to do it, at least remove the bootleg DVD jackets. If they ask you what it is, tell them that it's company data and you're in Hong Kong on business. However, i suggest that you don't mess with it. The bootlegs half the time don't work and are censored beyond recognition since China censors everything. I got a copy of Sex in the City in China and there was absolutely no sex. I sucked. I only buy bootlegs if I cannot find a legit DVD of the title that I'm seeking.

Think about it. In the late 70s & early 80s, almost all toys are made in Hong Kong. I challenge you to find a toy made in the late 70s that wasn't stamped "made in Hong Kong". However, all that changed with the explosion of "made in China" stuff. The labor in China is much cheaper, so all the factories went there. Since China is just across the border, the job loss to China in Hong Kong is 100 times worse than it is here in the USA.

Which brings us to your question regarding CD's and DVD's. Since China has all the manufacturing almost cornered in Asia, Hong Kong now relies on intellectual property and financial services in order to make money. Hong Kong is probably the biggest movie industry in Asia. More software comes out of Hong Kong than anywhere in Asia except Japan. Especially financial management software. Also, webhosting, data management and related software.

Hong Kong's government has really started to crack down on pirating. This is because if they don't protect intellectual property, Hong Kong will die since there is no more manufacturing.

There used to be 50-100 pirated software and DVD/VCD shops in this one building in Mongkok (I don't know the name since it's in Chinese). I used to go shopping there for video games, porn, movies, etc. This was several years ago. Last year, I went there and I only saw just a few dozen shops still open. Half of these shops sell legit stuff while just less than a dozen shops sell the bootlegs. All the other shops were out of business. The police shut them all down. I was even there during a raid. Kinda scary. They pulled down the gates, shut off the lights and told me to shut up (I think they said that since I don't know Chinese). About 20 minutes later, they rolled up the gates and let me go. A shop keeper said that it is almost impossible to do business anymore since these pesky raids happen often.

I've occassionally bought a few pirated CD's/DVD's in China and never thought anything aobut bringing them thru Hong Kong Custom (the prices are so much cheaper and the selection - especially the U.S. Television series - are so much wider). Fortunately, I've never had my luggage searched.

A friend of mine was horrified when I told him that I did this. He told me that even for single pirated copies - the HK Customs goes all crazy and will throw the book at me. WOW!

I've also asked a few of my friends and the replies ranged from - "no problem if a few and only for your own use" - to - "Yeah they'll not only fine you HK$1,000 for each pirated disc you tried to smuggle, but they will also throw your young ass in jail for a few days. "
So what is the real story? Many thanks
SE Asia Joe

Zacula

11-03-05, 09:10

I am going over with wife and looking for escapade - any suggestions around here massage/141 will be appreciated.

How do the hotels work? are they based in a hotel or do they want to come over to.

Zacula

11-03-05, 09:14

Going there is 3 months with wife, and looking for escapades - pls suggest hotel/141/massage around here. Hotels on 141 - do they want to come to yours OR are they based in hotels?

MongerMania

11-03-05, 16:57

Thanks all. I'm at the Island Shangri-La so we'll see what the night brings! Note on an Escort Agency - I rang one up last time drunk off my face, it was probably 5am after a night out with the boys. Got a very nice Venezuelan - no attempt to rip off - asked for full service - negotiated the price (on the basis that my wallet was close to empty and I don't think it was too expensive but I really can't remember the price paid. Are there any of the girlie bars which have Europeans/South Americans as well as Asians - I live in Singapore so have more than my share of Thai, Philippina and PRC girls - every once in a while I fancy a change.

You should thank BD for bringing to your attention that there are 2 Shangri-La's in town. If you are in the Island Shangri-La, suggest you take a quick cab to Wanchai. Too tired for mongering, then suggest you hit the girlie bars there.

Alternatively if you are in Kowloon Shangri-La, exit your hotel, walk left, cross Chatham Road and walk down Mody Road. Towards the end of the 3rd block will be the Holiday Inn. Go up to Hari's bar. They normally have a good selection there.

As for escort services, suggest you forget them. Not only are they expensive, they rarely send you what you are looking for.

In conclusion, if you take a cab to the places suggested, and make a quick pick, I am pretty sure you will get a lady in your room as fast as what an escort agency can send to your room.

Have fun in HK!

Dinotrex

11-03-05, 17:06

I was at K Pressure and noticed an entrance with a yellow sign that leads up some stairs, there's usually a woman or mamasan that sits in front, what is that place? whats it called and are there any good reports about that place?

Drjoker69

11-03-05, 18:15

Guys,

Don't forget to share the GPS coordinates of these places (bring your gps with you).

Thanks.

To Drjoker69,

Hats off for your detailed explanation in which I believe will benefit all the forum members here. I will depart soon to HK and hope for any good advanture to share.

Thanks

HSman71

------------
In response to hsman71 's message below,

From posted trip reports on here, it seems that the Monkok brothels are illegal, raided often, and have slightly older girls. Being a foreigner who wants to avoid trouble, I decided to avoid these places. Besides, I really don't want to financially support mafia activities.

Bill Lee

11-03-05, 19:32

Going there in late Nov. Any one here been there and know any Chinese friendly places?

SWs, MPs and bars? Any body know where the "No-hand" restaurant is near Ho Chi Minh City?

Bill

Cebu Local

11-03-05, 23:54

Going there in late Nov. Any one here been there and know any Chinese friendly places?

SWs, MPs and bars? Any body know where the "No-hand" restaurant is near Ho Chi Minh City?

BillHi Bill
Be careful,Because of their long brutal occupation by the Chinese,The vietnamese "LOVE" the Chinese as much as the Indonesians do.Go around with locals or other expats.Otherwise Remember the Vietnamese love the Chinese about the same way Koreans love Japanese.

Fast Eddie 48

11-04-05, 00:31

I am going over with wife and looking for escapade - any suggestions around here massage/141 will be appreciated.

How do the hotels work? are they based in a hotel or do they want to come over to.

to zacula

girl on 141 is out call they will came to your hotel room contact the phone
number on web site but a lot of number is out of service, but most of them
work out of apartment in hong kong room is small and dirty an quality of the
girl is not as the one offer hotel reservations.

mongkok around langham hotel have a lot of brothel but since the hotel open
on 2004 many is closed and out of business because of high rent and police
crack down.

fast eddie 48

Brain Damaged

11-04-05, 02:12

Thanks for the information on Golden Age Nightclub. Can you give me an idea where on Jordan Road it is? Do you think its an okay place if one goes alone? Language should not be a problem for me.

Thanks!

Hi Ramn,

PM sent.

Golden Age is 18-24 Jordan Road. Yes, you can go by yourself without any problem. It is a lot more fun if you go with at least one other guy so the dice drinking games, etc., become more fun and you can see more gals. Unlike China, where you get to choose from hundreds of gals, here you are brought one gal at a time. If you get one that's not to your liking, you're stuck with her for ten to fifteen minutes.

Cheers,
BD

Overcome888

11-04-05, 03:58

Thanks all. I'm at the Island Shangri-La so we'll see what the night brings! Note on an Escort Agency - I rang one up last time drunk off my face, it was probably 5am after a night out with the boys. Got a very nice Venezuelan - no attempt to rip off - asked for full service - negotiated the price (on the basis that my wallet was close to empty and I don't think it was too expensive but I really can't remember the price paid. Are there any of the girlie bars which have Europeans/South Americans as well as Asians - I live in Singapore so have more than my share of Thai, Philippina and PRC girls - every once in a while I fancy a change.Fenwicks in Wanchai typically has a few South American girls (Venezuela or Colombia) as well as the regular selection from The Philippines and China. They can typically expect top dollar though, and you need to be careful about "attitude" in terms of giving good service. You could always head across to Macau for a time - plenty of Russian girls there but the same caveat applies.

Ramn HK

11-04-05, 07:20

Overcome888 was on the spot about Fenwick's. About a month ago, we spotted a very good looking Venezuelan girl that my client was interested in. But her attitude was all business like, and she would not budge from her HK$1,500 rate for short time.

Was in Fenwick's on Nov 2 and the same lady was there, as good looking as ever surrounded by a lot of, I suspect Spanish punters, probably in town for the fair. The problem is that a lot of these non-Asian girls in Fenwick's are so business oriented that you wonder what type of service you will get.

Have fun in HK!

SE Asia Joe

11-04-05, 09:03

Drjoker - many thanks for your reply. I've also been doing quite a few questioning around on this matter - but am now totaly confused. The Gamut of answers - from sources I consider quite reliable - still covers a broad spectrum - from Nah - no big deal if for your self - to $10,000 per record plus jail time!
One reply that I received though made a bit of sense - in that YES, there was such a case when somebody did get fined $10,000 per cassette - but it was a case of a Pirated PRC movie DVD. i.e. the guy was bringing over multiple copies of a DVD pirated from a PRC made movie.
Authorities in the PRC had tipped off their Hong Kong counterpart and they decided to make a big case out of this and basically put the fear of God into everybody-s heart.
This tactic is quite common in both Hong Kong as well as the PRC - hauling in the Big Fish to make an example and thus scaring off the common guys from doing something. What do you think?
Again many thanks
SE Asia Joe
>>>>
Yes, they will throw the book at you!
Yes, they will throw the book at you! Don't do it! If you do choose to do it, at least remove the bootleg DVD jackets. If they ask you what it is, tell them that it's company data and you're in Hong Kong on business. However, i suggest that you don't mess with it. The bootlegs half the time don't work and are censored beyond recognition since China censors everything. I got a copy of Sex in the City in China and there was absolutely no sex. I sucked. I only buy bootlegs if I cannot find a legit DVD of the title that I'm seeking.................>>>>>>>

DayNight

11-04-05, 09:42

I got a copy of Sex in the City in China and there was absolutely no sex.

Nonsense. It's either a DVD rip, or a TV rip. SatC is no porn. It's US TV with explicit language. There is no nudity. I bought all in China, all are verbally explicit.

But who buys DVDs nowadays? I use Isohunt and download whatever I need from the internet.

BTW, legit DVDs are dirt cheap in China too. Ocean's 12 was the last I bought for rmb22.00 in a supermarket.

MongerMania

11-04-05, 17:12

Cheers guys,

I think the same is true in Singapore too. There are a couple of Venezuelan's who hang around Orchard Towers. Same issue - have walked away because of the arrogant take it or leave it attitude and fear about the (lack of) service.

Overcome888 was on the spot about Fenwick's. About a month ago, we spotted a very good looking Venezuelan girl that my client was interested in. But her attitude was all business like, and she would not budge from her HK$1,500 rate for short time.

Was in Fenwick's on Nov 2 and the same lady was there, as good looking as ever surrounded by a lot of, I suspect Spanish punters, probably in town for the fair. The problem is that a lot of these non-Asian girls in Fenwick's are so business oriented that you wonder what type of service you will get.

Have fun in HK!

Asian Rain

11-04-05, 17:21

First and foremost, many thanks to the brothers who have made so many informative posts. All I can say to newbies is to RTFF and you will do okay, whether or not you speak Cantonese. Last night I had a full evening to myself, so I wanted to make the best of my time.

Stayed at the Renaissance Harbour View Hotel - nice, girl-friendly and a lovely view of the harbour. More conveniently, it is within a healthy walking distance to the Wanchai area delights.

First on the plan was to try out the Indian ladies next to the Holiday Inn Golden Mile. Not really because I am keen on Indians, but it has been on my Mongering-To-Do-List for some time and I wanted to be prepared for an upcoming trip to Bangalore. Started around 7.30pm and took the MTR from Wan Chai to Tsim Sha Tsui - exit G for Holiday Inn. Circled around the corner of Nathan Road and Mody Road and immediately spotted 5+ ladies dressed in saris - they really stick out. Close inspection revealed that they were older and definitely bulkier than I prefer. Waited a bit and out appeared a somewhat thinner and younger looking girl dressed in jeans. Approached her and she asked if I wanted a massage. How much - HKD500. Okay, let's go. Taxi back to the hotel - very cuddly girl, liked to hold hands and I slipped my hand into her crotch. Heard her personal story - name is Shooba, 25yo, from Chennai, 2 girls, married at 16, husband left her, on her second 40-day visa working on her back. Arrive at hotel. Sent her to the shower and set up my video camera. After I shower, get onto the bed for initial inspection - large soft saggy tits, her tummy was a stetchmarked paunch and her pussy was a salmon pink gash, but at least it was shaved. Fair expectation for a mommy of two girls. Get her licking on my nipples. Turn on the video and get her working on my cock - very nice BBBJ. Let her suck me from all directions. Next get her into doggy, lube up and penetrate her. Nice moans, but she is whinging that she needs to get back - I hump a bit more and slip my thumb deep in her ass. No complaints, so I slip my cock into her ass... as soon as I got it all the way in, she squealed and pulled away. Okay, time to finish - roll her on her side and pump away until I blow on top of her pussy. Nice to see her mocha-skinned box covered in my white goo. All finished, send her on her way with additional HKD40 taxi money. I probably wouldn't repeat the experience, it was just nice to tick the experience box.

Sat in the room for a while. 10.30pm. Still feeling a bit unsatisfied, decided to take a walk for some window shopping. Walked over to Lockhart Road and made a right. Scoped out the freelancer bars as in the map posted by Tiger 1 (thanks!). Lots and lots of Filipinas - I liked the looks of Fenwicks and Go Bananas. There were lots of SWs hanging in the stairwells between buildings... the prices I got quoted were not to my liking - HKD700-1000 for ST. Considering that I am going to be in Manila for a blowout next week, I decided I could wait. I did spot a few stunners, but most of the quality was well below what I get in the PI. Word to the wise: I spotted a few Thai TS girls in the shadows as I walked up Jaffe Road. The lighting is not very good there, so I think it is easier for them to snag customers. Anyway, not my cup of tea, so I decided to walk up Lockhart to check out some 141 places.

The only thing I can say to newbies on the subject of 141 is GO FOR IT. First observation is that it is worth it to research the 141 site well. I focussed on girls in the Fuji Building and the Hop Yee Building. It is best to write down the name, price and flat number of a few girls of interest per building, because as I learned your first choice will very likely be occupied. If you match the detailed address information on 141 with the hotel tourist map, you will have no problems to find the girls.

So using the notes I had made, I walked 10 min up Lockhart to Fuji Building at 381-383 Lockhart (entrance next door to the Yee Fat Pawn Shop). It was on the other side of the road, so I passed it up. Walked up to the Hop Yee Building at 474-476 Lockhart (next to the Promise sign). As there was a HKD300 girl I saw nearby, I walked up to 537 Lockhart, a no-name building next to a magazine shop directly across from the Sogo Department Store. Walked up the stairs to third floor, looking for Mei Ji working out of Flat A. I noticed a pink signboard on the door, which I took to mean "occupied." Before I could turn to leave, the door to Flat C opened and a Chinese girl said hello, welcoming me inside. I went in and the girl held up 3 fingers to indicate HKD300. The girl was probably 28-30yo and not very slim, so I decided to walk out - just not the quality I was looking for. As I walked out the door, the customer from Flat A was leaving and I could see Mei Ji - she was looking fatter than the 141 pics and late 20's, so I kept on walking. Oh well, what can you expect for HKD300?

Walked back to the Hop Yee Building and went up dark dirty steps to the 5th Floor... looking for Angel in Flat C. This building was very interesting... lots of Chinese guys walking the narrow hallways. The halls had pink lights, which gave it a bordello kind of feel. Just my kind of place. ;-) There were 6 flats on the fifth floor, most of which had the pink sign boards out. No signboard, so I rang the bell for Flat C and was very pleased with the girl who opened the door. Angel was every bit as cute as her 141 pics indicated, with a super cute smile to boot. I went in and Angel put out the pink signboard. This girl was a delightful package - beautiful firm tits, smooth white skin and a nice tight ass. Again, no English, so we just used sign language to communicate. Positive smile service - nipple lick, BBBJ, doggy and mish to finish. I would have loved to get this girl on video. I didn't expect that she would be all that good after having serviced so many customers, but she was cooperative. Made a mental note to come in the mid-afternoon next time. Paid HKD400 as per her price on 141 - nothing extra. Walked out happy and smiling.

I was really pleased with the straightforward approach of 141. Easy to search. Easy to find. Transparent price. As long as you can get through the dingy hallways, it's quite livable. I also was happy that they were very receptive to caucasians - I felt very welcome. Next time I visit I will bring my video camera and supplies with me. If any of you know of the 141-type girls who are pic/video-friendly, please PM me some details.

It was already midnight for the walk back to the hotel, thinking I might scope out the Fuji Building. Instead I spotted a foot massage - Relaxing Zone - at 455 Lockhart. HKD108 for 60min foot/shoulder/neck seemed reasonable, so I went for it. Rang the bell. A guy came down. Went up - small setup with 4 massage chairs. Guy asked me if I want a guy or girl - girl please. Lady came with a bucket of warm tea to soak my feet - that was a first for me. The massage was very very nice - done with hands only, unlike the wood stick used in Thai foot massage. Extremely relaxing way to end an evening of shagging and walking. Massage finished - paid the HKD108 and gave the girl HKD20 as tip - decent value for 60min of quality relaxation. Walked back to the hotel with a smile on my face - didn't bother to fuss with the Fuji Building.

All-in-all less than HKD1,100 for 2 enjoyable sessions, a professional massage and a nice mini walking tour of fun spots. I will post pics of the session with the Indian girl as well as a basic map of my trekking course from the evening. Enjoy HK! AR+

Drjoker69

11-04-05, 17:41

You might be right. I think they do haul in a few well-publicized big fish just to scare away the other fish. I've done it before (bootleg dvd/vcd across border), but I never transported huge quantities. I only had a few discs and the jackets were tossed.

I've been caught with a fake Rolex, too. No big deal. I just acted stupid and told them that I thought it was real when I bought it. The guy smashed it on the spot with a hammer and told me to have a good stay in Hong Kong. Hmmm... smashing my watch and then telling me to have a good stay?!

I don't think you'll be in grave danger, BUT I also don't want you to come back as one of those examples to others that they throw the book at and then come crying to me. Besides, who wants to buy censored movies that sometimes didn't work due to using poor quality disks to do the bootleg? I'd rather pay a few bucks more to get the real deal, uncensored and guaranteed to work.

Have fun in HK!

Drjoker - many thanks for your reply. I've also been doing quite a few questioning around on this matter - but am now totaly confused. The Gamut of answers - from sources I consider quite reliable - still covers a broad spectrum - from Nah - no big deal if for your self - to $10,000 per record plus jail time!
One reply that I received though made a bit of sense - in that YES, there was such a case when somebody did get fined $10,000 per cassette - but it was a case of a Pirated PRC movie DVD. i.e. the guy was bringing over multiple copies of a DVD pirated from a PRC made movie.

Authorities in the PRC had tipped off their Hong Kong counterpart and they decided to make a big case out of this and basically put the fear of God into everybody-s heart.

This tactic is quite common in both Hong Kong as well as the PRC - hauling in the Big Fish to make an example and thus scaring off the common guys from doing something. What do you think?
Again many thanks
SE Asia Joe
>>>>

Yes, they will throw the book at you!

Yes, they will throw the book at you! Don't do it! If you do choose to do it, at least remove the bootleg DVD jackets. If they ask you what it is, tell them that it's company data and you're in Hong Kong on business. However, i suggest that you don't mess with it. The bootlegs half the time don't work and are censored beyond recognition since China censors everything. I got a copy of Sex in the City in China and there was absolutely no sex. I sucked. I only buy bootlegs if I cannot find a legit DVD of the title that I'm seeking.................>>>>>>>

Yyzgurl

11-04-05, 23:43

Newbie here, so forgive me if this is in the wrong section.

Hubbie and I are going to HK at the end of Nov, staying at the Langham hotel. Want to be adventurous and have some real fun. I'm a voyeur at heart and LOVE watching him with other women. Strip clubs are getting kind of boring and would like to watch him actually fuck a girl (or two!)

My question is, where can we find outcall girls? I don't think 141 or any of those places would allow me to be in the same room and I would be more comfortable in my own hotel room. We don't mind paying more for having the two of us there, but she would only be servicing him.

Also, do you think if we paid extra we could tape his encounter...for our own viewing pleasure of course!

Thanks for your help!

FurryFriend

11-05-05, 03:04

I am reporting literally from the Mongkok brothel district, at a Starbucks in Langham Place. Last night, the district was absolutely jumping with activity from providers and patrons, especially during the 10pm-12am period. Some had predicted that Langham Place, a new multi-billion dollar entertainment/hotel/shopping megaplex, would drive out nearby brothals and vice. But the mongering activity was at 100% compared to a few years ago, before ground on Langham Place even broke. I knew brothals are so in demand that nothing will ever drive them completely out. With a rough estimate, there were about 75-85 providers active in last night's skin parade.

I also spotted a few white patrons brave enough to try something adventurous instead of getting ripped-off at Wanchai bars and escort services. If any of you plan to be there during the next few days, why not wear something identifying so that I can come by and say hello?

Brain Damaged

11-05-05, 07:20

Cebu Local

11-05-05, 11:51

Hi Mongerers,

Just thought that I would remind you that the WTO Sixth Ministerial Conference will be held here December 13-18. I really have no feel how that would affect Wan Chai mongering, but you might want to give HK a miss during that time if you were planning to visit Wan Chai.

The government and the police are saying that they are ready, but that's what was also said in Seattle, Cancun, etc.

YMMV.

Cheers,
BDCancun,Seattle are not in China.........Remember the DOHA WTO conference had no disturbances either.Quatar was a absolute monarchy.The new security law recently passed allows the police to arrest and detain without charge for weeks.The protest leaders can be arrested at the Airport and detained immediately.The HK goverment has done this to Falungong and Taiwanese activists in the past.The Chinese goverment,the same people who brought you Tianamen square naaah.......

Brain Damaged

11-06-05, 04:49

Cancun,Seattle are not in China.........Remember the DOHA WTO conference had no disturbances either.Quatar was a absolute monarchy.The new security law recently passed allows the police to arrest and detain without charge for weeks.The protest leaders can be arrested at the Airport and detained immediately.The HK goverment has done this to Falungong and Taiwanese activists in the past.The Chinese goverment,the same people who brought you Tianamen square naaah.......

Yup, you're right! But the WTO thing gives me a good excuse to hop over to Bangkok for a week! (Got a couple of bottles that I need to finish.) My thought is that since I live here, I'll just avoid Wan Chai for a week and spend my money in Bangkok, Mongkok and Shenzhen. But for those of you that are travelling long distances to visit HK, the question of whether the protestors will have an effect or not on Wan Chai mongering is open to debate. <Shrug> I don't know.

Cheers,
BD

Sajer Guy

11-06-05, 07:14

Asian Rain,

Great report on ******.com. I certainly will try it out after seeing how it worked out for you.

Sajer

Gyaos

11-07-05, 03:00

Just thought that I would remind you that the WTO Sixth Ministerial Conference will be held here December 13-18.

Thanks for the reminder! I'll be in December 6th and OUT on December 9th! Just in time for last call.

Gyaos.

Squib Boy

11-07-05, 04:30

I am planning on trying one of the 141 girls on my next trip to HK. Is the price quoted for a set amount of time, or are you expected to leave after the first pop?

Overcome888

11-08-05, 05:55

I am planning on trying one of the 141 girls on my next trip to HK. Is the price quoted for a set amount of time, or are you expected to leave after the first pop?You can give it a try and stay on for an extra pop (it's supposed to be for the hour) and I've managed to do this a couple of times but, come on ... when you're paying an average of HK$400. That's about US$50, you've got to be reasonable, it's good value!

Ramn HK

11-08-05, 07:23

I am planning on trying one of the 141 girls on my next trip to HK. Is the price quoted for a set amount of time, or are you expected to leave after the first pop?Generally the time is 45 minutes, although some do offer for 30 minutes only. It is this set time or first pop, whichever comes first. Additional time for extra money can be negotiated with the provider.

Normally if 45 minutes costs $400 and you wanted 90 minutes, it would just be double the cost.

Have fun in Hong Kong!

Drjoker69

11-08-05, 08:52

Short answer: Price quoted, unless otherwise stated, is for the shorter of 30 minutes or until your first pop.

Long answer: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=403469&postcount=2660

I am planning on trying one of the 141 girls on my next trip to HK. Is the price quoted for a set amount of time, or are you expected to leave after the first pop?

Acer V

11-08-05, 10:11

Squib Boy.
Generally speaking it means one pop. Although it can depend on your rapport with the lady. I have been able to get a little more personal with some and get a few extras in and spend more than the usual hurried session. However these are exceptions based on my experience. Good luck and be sure to report back!

Acer

I am planning on trying one of the 141 girls on my next trip to HK. Is the price quoted for a set amount of time, or are you expected to leave after the first pop?

Squib Boy

11-09-05, 07:18

Thanks a lot guys! I will definitely report back if I decide to partake.

Dar425

11-09-05, 11:14

I am planning on trying one of the 141 girls on my next trip to HK. Is the price quoted for a set amount of time, or are you expected to leave after the first pop? Squib,

I'm a gwai-loh, had my 1st 141 girl today (Name is Joey in TST). I paid 500 HKD. I arrive at her place, and she invites me to shower. Then, she showers. Then, we MAKE LOVE for 30-40 minutes. For my finish, I choose to pop my man milk onto her breasts. After this, we shower again.

Then, she tells me to lay on the bed, and begins some massage, I think about 30 minutes. She is pretty good at the massage, and I am so thankful that she is giving me a nice time. You know, I want to sleep during the massage.

OK, so I probably have about 1: 00 to 1: 20 minutes at her place. It is during the daytime. 500 HKD. I think, however, either she is really good or she likes me a lot and gave me some special time. So, I tip 100 HKD more.

Sorry guys, I do not want to raise the price. But I thought 500 HKD was good, especially the time she spent with me. So 100 HKD extra tip is to tell her I appreciate and think she gave me some special time.

Dar

Intransit

11-09-05, 14:45

HK Brothers,

What does the phrase "poison dragon" refer to? Thanks.

Brain Damaged

11-10-05, 04:15

HK Brothers,

What does the phrase "poison dragon" refer to? Thanks.

Refers to ass rimming. In what context did you see the phrase?

Intransit

11-10-05, 08:07

I saw it in relation to services offered. I recognized the characters for "poison" and "dragon" but not the other one. Thanks for the assistance.

Haiphong

11-10-05, 16:44

LuvumBare

11-11-05, 16:51

Haiphong:
Sorry mate but you really need to RTFF.
This has been asked and answered so many times it needs it's own thread.

re: V Girls - WanChai bars.

If you really want to see a nice selection, thake the ferry to Macau and visit Darlings 1 or 2. Read the Macau forum and you will have all your answers.

A little research on your part will be rewarded. This is not diffficult.
'bare

Valiant2

11-12-05, 14:30

After reading many positive reports on K Pressure I decided to give it a try. Having just arrived in HK the day before I had only US $ so it took a lot of walking the neighborhood to find a money exchange place. That is a mistake I won't make again. Thanks to ample directions from this forum I found the place easy. I had to run the gauntlet of two old men who were sitting on the steps. Once inside I was greeted warmly and asked if I had been there before. I said I hadn't, but had heard a lot of good things about it. The mamasan took me to a small room to await a girl. I told the mamasan I wanted a lady with big boobs. Unfortunately, the one she brought me was wearing a wonder bra and by the time I had accepted her I found her to a B cup at best. That was my only complaint. The service was excellent and the best AR I ever had. That girl had a tongue that was truly amazing.

We used the maximum 45 minutes and I would repeat. The next time I want to see if they do soapies, since they have an inflatable mattress in the shower (and the shower is very large.

Valiant2

Pimp Wyld

11-12-05, 15:49

Ahh Yes. Thats why they call it the Wonder Bra.

When she takes it off you wonder where her tits went.

Ice2005

11-12-05, 17:09

Been reading and looking a the info. I'm going there on the 18th and I have been reviewing the hotties on 141. What does "Hotel reservation" mean when shown as the address?

Thanks

FurryFriend

11-12-05, 23:50

Been reading and looking a the info. I'm going there on the 18th and I have been reviewing the hotties on 141. What does "Hotel reservation" mean when shown as the address?

Thanks

That means you'll meet the hottie at a hotel room of their choosing.

Gyaos

11-13-05, 00:26

Just wanted to pass some information to you mongers, that the Holiday Inn Express opens in Causeway Bay in December. December 1st, I believe. So if you want a quicky, literally there's some real clean sheets at the new pad.

Gyaos.

The Voice

11-13-05, 03:03

Hi Guys,

Would appreciate any assistance with the following:

(a) Is Viagra available legally in HK and, if so, where?

(b) I intend to be in HK next week and would like to find some Vietnamese ladies. Does anyone know of saunas where there would be V girls and/or places where one could find V freelancers.

Thank you

The answer to a) is yes. You can purchase at any pharmacy without prescription (going price is $150hk) but some will ask for proof that you are a tourist.

Ice2005

11-13-05, 03:08

That means you'll meet the hottie at a hotel room of their choosing.OK, thaqnks Fury. Is it safe to go to one the hotels of thier choice? Also, how about getting one back to my hotel room.

The Wanderer

11-13-05, 04:21

Gyaos,

Thanks for the info, do you know the address or a location description in CWB?

Thanks

Just wanted to pass some information to you mongers, that the Holiday Inn Express opens in Causeway Bay in December. December 1st, I believe. So if you want a quicky, literally there's some real clean sheets at the new pad.

Gyaos.

Khanaan

11-13-05, 08:33

I go to HK 4 or 5 times a year, and instead of spending 600 to 1000 HKD on one of the 141 or 161 girls i just get on the train to Lo wu and book into a hotel usually Lido as i have built quite a rapport with the girls behind the booking in counter.
It costs me:
60 hkd return train fair.
230 hkd for the hotel
60 hkd for a 2 hour body massage and foot massage
20 hkd for a head massage and hair cut
200 hkd for dinner and shisha at the Sharazad restaurant ( Arabian)
200-300 for the girl LT as in all night
The total.............. wait for it .. Bullys star prize ..
820HKD

And thats living it good including the girl joining me for food at the
restaurant
CONCLUSION : Bye bye bad attitude 141 girl. Hello sexy Shenzhen
sweet girl

FurryFriend

11-13-05, 10:13

i had two sessions at a mongkok brothel during my one-week trip in hong kong. the scene in mongkok is as lively and inexpensive as ever with a wide selection of attractive providers. every night, there were about 75 ladies parading near the corner of soy and shanghai streets. it gets busiest around midnight.

however, the quality of service has declined sharply. in the past, 3 out of 4 sessions would be satisfactory. in the last two years, that ratio has fallen to half. i think the brothels are being taken over by unskilled amateurs who visit from china for only a few weeks or months. this is because i've seen police randomly stop the ladies for ids and no arrests were made. thus, these are legitimate mainland visitors with valid visas. in the past, most mongkok providers were illegal migrants who rep001ter at the sight of police. i found illegals to be far better providers -- probably because they can stay in hong kong longer and can develop their skills and build a clientele. (those on visas are required to leave hong kong after 60 days.)

on this trip, the first provider i saw was a 9 out of 10 (in appearance). probably one of the most beautiful i've seen in hong kong. but as soon as we stepped into the private room, she didn't hide the fact she wanted to leave as soon as possible. the second provider i saw was maybe a 6 or 7 out of 10...but the service was very good. slow and attentive.

Weelock

11-13-05, 22:57

The answer to a) is yes. You can purchase at any pharmacy without prescription (going price is $150hk) but some will ask for proof that you are a tourist.

For 150HKD is this for one pill? Sounds expensive. Is this the same price with a prescription refill?

Intransit

11-14-05, 06:58

Saw a picture for a 141 provider I've used before pop up on ****** this morning, and as she was across the street and I was in the mood, I dropped by before lunch.

She's using a different room than previously, but same floor, same building, conveniently located near where I'm staying. Went to the room, rang the doorbell, no answer. No sign of life. No "Please Wait" sign. Dejected, I turned and went downstairs.

As I emerge from the elevator, who's coming into the lobby but Miss 141. She recognizes me, smiles, and points to herself and mouths, in Mandarin, "me?" Turning and following her into the elevator probably telegraphed my intentions.

She was very surprised to see someone at her new address, as she said she'd just called the Web guys this morning to put her listing up. She didn't have any bedsheets, and the room still smelled of paint.

Anyway, she's been off the game for a few months, and her tightness and the occasional wince and gasp showed it. She's very precise when it comes to hygiene, covered BJ and condom use all the way. Said she uses Durex because she believes they're safer.

Skipped the massage as her massage table has been moved in yet. Nice afternoon interlude though, for sure. She's used to doing the occasional gweilo, so no fears there.

She'll answer to the English name Elaine, although now I guess she's using the name Wendy. Whatever. You can find her here:

http://******.com/eng/view_id-6350.html

Ice2005

11-14-05, 15:16

Hello,

Well after reading the posts from the beginning I hope I'm ready for the upcoming adventure starting Friday night. There is a lot of advise, addresses, and bars. I hope that I'll be able to visit most of them during the short 5 day stay. I have 15 names with descriptions from the 141 and 161 sites. And holy shit, yes, the 161 site is extremely slow. Anyone know of any special events this weekend that a Hong Kong cherry would enjoy? I'm hoping this will be my new mongering location. The PI is getting old (never thought I'd say that) LOL

I'll try to post a current SITREP during the trip.

96 hours and 10 minutes until the fun begins :D

Dar425

11-15-05, 01:01

Voice,

I bought 100mg of Viagra in HK for 75 HKD. If you are paying 150 HKD for 100mg then you can get a better price. The place I was buying from was in TST-East.

Haiphong, if you want to know more precise directions to the place I bought from, send me a private message.

One note about Hari's Bar in the Holiday Inn (TST-East). I met a Thailand girl (named Usa). We agreed to 'All night' for 1000 HKD (it was about 9pm). She was nice to bring me to a nearby Thailand restaurant with good food.

However, at my hotel, we did f*cking and BBBJ and DATY, etc for 2 hours. Then, she said she will leave. I told her our agreement was "all night" not 3 hours. She disagreed. Anyway, so she wants to rip me off for the time she promised. At this point, I really don't care because I need some sleep and have a very early flight to catch, so, I let her leave.

After she left I just enjoy some beer in a Filipina-ran restaurant/bar in TST-East and enjoy the evening. Then, I sleep a few hours and catch my flight.

Anyway, this girl "Usa" travels to HK and Singapore very often. I did not like that she wants to cheat my time so I hope to alert you men about her... but considering all things I was actually glad that she was gone so I can relax and drink beer and get a good sleep (sometimes when you sleep with a pro girl you do not sleep well because of worrying about Laptop computer, wallet, money, passport, clothing, etc being stolen).

Dar

Road Lover

11-15-05, 18:02

Xdentx

11-16-05, 05:48

I've read many reports on action in the various hotel bars, but no mention of the above. Anyone have any observations regarding the above hotels? Thanks.

DayNight

11-16-05, 07:13

I usually do only China chats. But in one of the QQ English rooms I met this lady from Hong Kong. 30, housewife, husband, out of Hong Kong till December.

Met her a few days ago. Chatted again last night. Is bored, and nobody to play with. Topic turned automatically to sex. Her English is not great, but she had images of what she likes.

We fixed a time this morning in Mongkok in a coffee place. She did show up (surprise!) and we went to a nearby short time hotel (HK$120 for 2 hours - don't ask the name, there are 100 of those in Mongkok).

She was OK looking, Did blow me, but didn't really like it, which was a pity as her skills where really good.

Was a fun packed 2 hours with BJ, DATY and sex twice. I was the only one beside her husband (she claimed). Maybe untrue, but WTF do I care....

Was fun, but would not do again.

Chat is a really good way to find free sex partners.

Ramn HK

11-16-05, 07:31

i just cudnt get onto 141. tried 161 got on. very few girls listed. so it took me all the way to kuan tong. 9 girls listed there. so went there. had tough time finding the girls. the first 4 tries yilded no result. 2 were busy an d2 i rang bell and no response. i was sweating. the plac eis horrible in between vegetable market and fish market, it has hot and humid and sweat was pouring from all over my body. i finally got lucky (was i really lucky? hmmmp.) with the fifth one. no english. showed hand sign for 350, as per post. got into shower and was really rushing me. wanted to finish me off with hand job. seemed ****! tight pussy, wudnt allow me to open her leg, or put my finge rin. no massage. it hot and nosiy from all th emarket activity from below. i was so frustrate by it all i just went back sick of this expericne. i don't blam 161. but i think it is not for me. i want comfort. i want ambience.

so icalled a massage servcie listed in th eyellow pages. butterflies massage. sent a filipina. she was good. not a good massage but get me really inotmood and had agreat long gfe encounter. i have posted her picture in the pict gallery. she is of she told me to manila. i don't think i will try 141 and 161 again. i will spend a little more to be in the comfort of my room.sorry to hear about your bad time. from the look of your pictures, you were either staying at the grand hyatt or the renaissance with a harbour view room to match. perhaps if you went through the forum you would have realised that the entertainment strip of lockhart road was practically at your doorstep, with hundreds of available women rep001tered around a dozen bars and clubs all looking for a punter like you.

something similar to the international buffet you may have enjoyed at the coffee shop in your hotel, except we are talking girls from columbia, south america, philippines, vietnam, china, thai, korea, poland, to name a few.

while the 161 and the 141 have their place for good quick fun, you will be at the mercy of their schedule, thin towels and very cramped quarters, and sometimes a line waiting outside, while the provider shouts, "next".

alternatively, there are the hotel bars. if you were staying at the renaissance, there is a bar or disco that is quite popular with the girls.

suggest you read the forum to find out some places you can hit, and leave the 141 and the 161's out if you're looking at bringing a babe back to the comfort of your room. before you head out looking for your babe, suggest you hide your valuables in the safe so that you can play with peace of mind.

by the way, what did you pay for the whole experience from butterflies massage?

have fun in hong kong!

Tiger 888

11-16-05, 09:51

Valiant2

11-16-05, 10:44

Siince I was staying in the TST area. I reviewed the Best 161, 141 boards to find a building with a good concentration of providers. The Harilela Mansion at 81 Natham Road had a good number of girls on the 11th floor. One day when I was able to ditch the wife for a little while I checked out this building. When on he 11th floor I ventured into an area of the floor that was loaded with 141s. While looking at the rooms one of the doors opened and a beautiful Chinese lady with a great rack beckons me in. I go in and tell her I have no time that day but I WILL be back.

Several days later I escaped for a little while and visited her. She is a knockout and since I had only a half hour I paid her 400 for a BM and CBJ. Also ended up DATYing her which was nice. I wish I had more time. I highly recommend her. She is on the Best161 and ****** sites.

BJK

11-17-05, 13:37

I've read many reports on action in the various hotel bars, but no mention of the above. Anyone have any observations regarding the above hotels? Thanks.

Not sure about the Mandarin Landmark but the Mandarin Oriental has a bar with the more classy providors. They will ask for $2K+
The Excelsior owned by the same group also have a limited but good quality selection. The same girls will end up in the Wanchai bars for more reasonable $$$ when there are no early (<10:30pm) takers.

Intransit

11-18-05, 05:12

Men fined for online prostitutes' directory
Defendants get suspended jail term but expert says pimping law
is out of date

NICK GENTLE
http://hongkong.scmp.com/hknews/ZZZ80HQFXFE.html

Two men who established a popular online prostitutes' directory
yesterday were handed suspended jail terms and $100,000 fines
after being found guilty of conspiring to live off the earnings
of prostitution.

It was the first time the publishers of advertisements for
prostitution had been targeted for prosecution, and the case may
have an impact on other providers of advertising space, both
online and in more traditional media.

At the same time, a legal expert has warned the case raises
questions about the adequacy of laws surrounding prostitution.

Cheung Ming-man, 37, and Chan Sai-Ngan, 28, were found guilty in
the District Court of one count each of conspiracy to live off
the earnings of prostitution arising from ads that appeared on
their website, www.******.com, between March and December 2003.

Judge Abu Bakar bin Wahab sentenced them to eight months in
prison, with the sentence suspended for two years, and fined
them $100,000.

The two men were caught up in a 2003 Independent Commission
Against Corruption investigation that centred around police
officers who were receiving kickbacks from brothel owners in
return for warning them of raids.

"The defendants lived parasitically on the earnings of a large
number of prostitutes," Judge Wahab said.

Hong Kong law does not prohibit prostitution. But it is illegal
to use signs to advertise it or for third parties to derive
benefit from someone's employment as a sex worker.

Prostitutes paid a flat monthly fee to advertise on the site. At
one point the site, which was said to be receiving 100,000 page
views a day, generated enough revenue to employ 10 people.

While Cheung and Chan are no longer associated with it,
******.com is still operating, as are a number of other sites
offering the same service. A number of newspapers and magazines
also carry sex workers' ads.

Simon Young, an associate professor at Hong Kong University's
law faculty, said the conviction highlighted a deficiency in the
laws surrounding prostitution.

"The law has failed to keep up with technology, because it
doesn't look like any of Hong Kong's laws suit this situation,"
he said.

The law under which the men were prosecuted was meant to protect
women from pimps, he said, but whether that was what Cheung and
Chan were is debatable. Rather than pimps, they could be viewed
as businessmen who offered a service to prostitutes for a fee.

"This offence was never meant to capture genuine business
transactions," Mr Young said.

He said that a business transaction could not be called
"parasitic", which is the common law test for such cases. A
person could only derive an income from such a business because
they were delivering an effective service to consumers - in this
case, to prostitutes.

"I think the wrongdoing they want to punish is profiting from
the promotion of prostitution. But that's not this offence."

Whuley Pebbles

11-20-05, 03:44

Can anyone recommend an internet address for a travel agency or portal to make reservations online from HK to BKK? It would be much appreciated!

Thanks!

Mc Fly XXX

11-20-05, 15:21

Stopped once again at K Pressure - and once again did not regret it. Asked the small Mamasan for some non chinese (malay, thai or vietnamese) girls but it seemed she did not understand my question at all. She just replied that they do not have any local girls form HK. Not sure whether it was my english (non native speaker) or she just did not (want to) get it.

Does anyone know if they have any malay, thai or vietnamese girls at K Pressure?

So I settled for my usual small and slim girl - Skipped the first girl. Second girl was Tong Tong. Consider her a 8 on my personal scale. Some nice fire BJ in the shower, some intensive AR. Blew my first load on her face while receiving a BBBJ. Took some more AR and blowing skills to get me ready for the second round. Started in cowgirl but she was pretty lazy and told me she was tired and opted for missionary. Screwd her in various positions until the phone rang. Overall an enjoyable afternoon session with a repeat chance.

At the end one more question: Anyone know a similar places like KP with malay, thai or vietnamese girls (except Mong Kok)?

Cheers,

McFly XXX

Auzijon

11-20-05, 22:53

Hello,

I am going to visit HK for 10 days in Feb. I'm wondering what are the best sites to find potiential freebies for when I get there.

Thanks

Member #3346

11-21-05, 00:30

Can anyone recommend an internet address for a travel agency or portal to make reservations online from HK to BKK? It would be much appreciated!

Thanks!

Not sure where your located or if you want car/tour. Assuming you don't, I've had good luck with:

www.thaiair.com for the plane flight

www.priceline.com or www.priceline.com.hk for the hotel

www.biddingfortravel.com to see how much you should bid for your hotel

I'm sure there are cheaper ways to do it if you have to do it ultracheap, but the above method is reliable and hassle free.

Buko Max

11-21-05, 01:43

Hello WP,

Check out www.aerohkg.com. They are a HK travel agency that I and other members have used before. They also have package trips to most other asian countries for great prices!

Mattrick

DayNight

11-21-05, 04:34

Just a note, I bought some Sildenafill (generic Viagra) from rx-mex.com

34 pills for US$98 + 12.25 shipping = $110.25

It arrived within 14 days at the given HK address.

Peter Eastwest

11-21-05, 13:42

Lat week I was on HK and I decided to check out 141 which was recommended by many mongers. I found an address near my company's office that looked like it had some nice small-breasted talent. There were about a dozen girls mainly Chnese listed at 1F, Coronet Court, 321 King's Road, North Point

Went there on Saturday late and found the three best ones I had selected from 141 website were all "busy - please come back later" but there were about ten other rooms with girls that were NOT listed on 141 directory. I checked out one whose picture was on the door and bingo! A nice-looking mainland girl available for full service for $350.
Room was a bit spartan but the place was clean and she smiled a lot as I tried out my Mandarin. (I like it when they smile.)

We showered, she gave a reasonable unhurried massage, BBBJ, AR, various positions but she preferred doggy and then a shower with her again to finish.

Good experience.

Couple of nights later after a long and boring banquet given for a visiting Japanese group, which included too much whisky and cognac drinking, I diverted the taxi back to my hotel in Wanchai to visit my cutie again. I arrived late - 3.30 am - and she was in bed asleep when I rang. A true professional, however, she rose to the occasion and we had another session. This time I had my camera with me and she agreed to pictures. No problem. (Must make sure I do not post pictures of the Japanese guys in the restaurant!)

She also was happy to have her pretty pussy trimmed. I had not brought my shaving equipment because this was an unplanned visit, but she had scissors which I put to good use.

This session lasted about two hours, and included the full menu as above, incl AR.

Despite the fact that this was "out-of-hours work" the cost was only HK$300 this time. Obviously discout for a regular!

I'll definitely be back to see her when next in HK.

Photos on gallery.
Pete

Member #3914

11-22-05, 14:36

I am a frequent visitor to HK. Usually stay 2-4 days every month. Already tried 141 and 161 and had good experience all the times.

Now looking for a hotty for long time i.e. 2-3 days package to stay with me in Hotel. 1000-2000 HK$ per day would be acceptable (Depending on quality and terms of service).

Requested guidance/ suggestions/ contacts for above service.

Thanks in anticipation.

Harry Dude

11-22-05, 23:36

I found two pharmacies selling Cialis and one selling Levitra without prescription at the intersection of Jordan and Wooson in the Jordan area (MTR station Jordan). The two places selling Cialis each had a very large Cialis poster in the window. HK$ 380 for a trial pack of 4 tablets, looked very real to me and seems to work ok.

Lovalova

11-23-05, 06:39

Dear brothers,

Can anyone recommend where I can find nice white sexy MILF types in Hong Kong?

And prices?

Thanks.

PM me pls.

DayNight

11-24-05, 02:34

I found two pharmacies selling Cialis and one selling Levitra without prescription....

you mean two (as in 2) or 200? I think there are 200 pharmacies which sell without prescription.

Or I guess you found two pharmacies selling Cialis and Levitra WITH prescription.... Let me guess.... Watson and Manning, right?

Squib Boy

11-24-05, 07:19

Not sure about the Mandarin Landmark but the Mandarin Oriental has a bar with the more classy providors. They will ask for $2K+
The Excelsior owned by the same group also have a limited but good quality selection. The same girls will end up in the Wanchai bars for more reasonable $$$ when there are no early (<10:30pm) takers.How about the bar at the Grand Hyatt? I will be staying there for a few days next week. I know that the hotel is close to all the pickup joints in Wan Chai, but I have a preference for convenience and I don't mind paying a bit more in order to get it.

Haiphong

11-25-05, 12:50

Hi Guys,

I intend to be in HK next week and would like to find some Vietnamese ladies. Does anyone know of saunas where there would be V girls and/or places where one could find V freelancers.

Thank youTomorrow is "next week".

Any info as to where to find Vietnamese girls would be appreciated.

John Smart

11-26-05, 03:53

Haiphong

There are a couple of very nice ones at 123 Electric Road, Tin Hau.

Funny at 1D
http://www.******.com/eng/view_id-10489.html

Is very good -- her name is coz she is 'fun'.

Fendi at 1B
http://www.******.com/eng/view_id-6164.html

Is also very pleasant, very good body; I found her a bit wham bam etc and was in n out in 20 mins, although may be that was just me.

John

Brain Damaged

11-26-05, 05:18

Tomorrow is "next week".

Any info as to where to find Vietnamese girls would be appreciated.

Hi Haiphong,

VN gals are around in the various haunts in HK (think Neptune II, Holiday Inn, brothels), but they are not overly common (I ran into one in Neptune's last Saturday, but the guy:gal ratio on her was pretty bad, something like 4:1). My suggestion would be to hop a ferry to Macau where there is a fair amount of VN gals to select from and the providers will work to accomodate your requests.

Has anyone had any different experiences? I like VN gals, but have difficulty locating them in HK.

Cheers,
BD

Fast Eddie 48

11-26-05, 08:53

Hi Haiphong,

VN gals are around in the various haunts in HK (think Neptune II, Holiday Inn, brothels), but they are not overly common (I ran into one in Neptune's last Saturday, but the guy:gal ratio on her was pretty bad, something like 4:1). My suggestion would be to hop a ferry to Macau where there is a fair amount of VN gals to select from and the providers will work to accomodate your requests.

Has anyone had any different experiences? I like VN gals, but have difficulty locating them in HK.

Cheers,
BD

TO BRIAN DAMAGED

The reason have is not many vietnam girl in hong kong , They get over run
by the girl from the prc , plus they are better off in macau the pretty one
get the top dollar , the other reason is police crack down and cost for visa
to go to hong kong if they have no legal paper . best place to bag vn girl is
pnhom penh they are young and cheap.

fast eddie 48

El Matematico

11-26-05, 09:00

I never ran into a VN girl in HK. I was last there in June.

The last time I was in Singapore, however, they seemed to be all over the place.

Fast Eddie 48

11-27-05, 00:16

I never ran into a VN girl in HK. I was last there in June.

The last time I was in Singapore, however, they seemed to be all over the place.

to EL MATEMATICO

I never been to singapore , but i heard price is even higher than in hong kong
and I don't think you can get a vn girl for $ 20 usd lt like at pnhom penh.

fasteddie 48

Tiger 888

11-27-05, 07:34

Vietnamese (and also Russian) Citiziens need visa to enter HK.

Drjoker69

11-28-05, 04:06

Saw Ada at Coronet Court in North Point. Smiling, friendly, she scrubbed me down with soap in the shower with me. Then, she gave me a clean towel. The place is very cramped but squeaky clean. The AC was working fine (important in hot, humid Hong Kong). The bed is only a single size with a thin mattress over a hard wooden board. Luckily, she's small so even though I'm big, we still fit on the bed. I especially like the mirror beside the bed. It's like watching a porno starring yourself. This place is also very safe.

She likes to moan softly, say stuff about me in Chinese (praise I hope) and suck my nipples (A first for me. I'm usually the only one sucking nipples!). We did several positions; CBJ, digital exploration, and CFS such as doggy, missionary, and sideways. She even felt me up, hugged me, and grabbed the bedsheets as if she were having an orgasm ;0) A good actress with good attitude.

She has a pretty face and she is a PRC girl. Large, natural, supple breasts that bounced which were a joy to squeeze and suck. Nice, tiny nipples. Very smooth skin and she smelled fresh. She showered with me another time. I soaped her p*ssy and she washed my d*ck. I dried off with another clean towel, she gave me a hug, said something to me in Mandarin, I nodded and smiled as if I understood. I said something to her in English and she smiled and nodded. We hugged, I paid my dues, and split. I had fun.

She was so much fun that I went back a couple of days later for seconds. She refused anal, though. That was the only thing I asked for that she refused. She complied with all my other requests.

Here is her info copied from the ******.com website;
Addr : Flat 11, 1/F, Coronet Court, 321 King's Road, North Point .
Hour : 15:00-02:00
Age : 26
Height : 5'4"
Size : 35C-24-35

Here are directions to Coronet Court per my previous post;
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=403469&postcount=2660

Firebird

11-29-05, 03:15

Just read in the Forum that Hyatt on Nathan will be demolished after Dec. 2005. What a shame. Good hotel to bring talent to.
Can anyone recommend a hotel nearby that has bathrooms with large bathtubs? - large enough for two?
I like taking nice long baths with talent I bring back.

I have been to the Sheraton nearby but do not like it too much.

Once again looking for 4-5 star hotel (hell I do not care how many "stars") as long as it is clean, safe, comfortable and has a bathroom with a LARGE bathtub fit for two. - thanks for feedback.

Doerken2

11-29-05, 04:19

Hi guys,

I'm new to this forum and new to HK. Spent most of yesterday reading the archive! Great contributions everyone. Apologies for these newbie questions....

I know this has been discussed in some detail over the past 2 years or so but does anyone have any recent reports on streetwalkers in hk?

Have heard there are many to be found in the Temple Street area and around Soy Street.

Are they mostly mainlanders or can one find thai / filipina (my fetish) SWs in that area. Would love to pick up one of these latter girls for fun.

When you pick them up what is the deal - Take them to a nearby hourly hotel or do they have their own place. And how nasty can they get? I don't want a girl who refuses to do anything but mish....ideally i want rimming, CIM, the works...

Have seen several SWs in Wan Chai on jaffe road, lockhart (esp. outside the 7 eleven under the bridge), but the standard is not good and most seem to be ladyboys or old (50+!). Still, would be grateful for reports on these chick(boy)s!

Also heard about SWs around hotels in TST and on Nathan Road. Do they only work these hotels or if I pick em up on the street will they accompany me to a ST hotel in the area.

Would be grateful for any reports.

Also, has anyone tried the Colombian and S.American girls on offer in Fenwick. They also work the non-pro bars and I have seen them in places like dusk till dawn and Coyote. The tits on these girls have to be seen to be believed and their bottle-blonde hair and filthy look makes me want to try one out for a real porn-star experience. One would expect them to be a good passionate fuck but have heard they are not worth the price ($2k + LT?) and have crappy attitudes to boot.

One final thing...how easy is it to pick up Indonesians and Filipinas for a freebie on a Saturday or Sunday in New Makati, Laguna etc. Some guys on here make it sound like shooting fish in a barrel. Is it? What are the chances of a decent looking expat guy in his early 30s rocking up to New Makati on a Sat afternoon, picking up a horny decent looking Indonesian and taking her to Villa Victoria for a few hours fun.

Thanks again guys and sorry for the newbie questions. I will be posting plenty of reports once i find my bearings on the HK scene.

Ken

Drjoker69

11-29-05, 07:04

If you like large bathtubs fit for 2, try SM Queen at National Court apartments in Jordan on the ******.com website: http://******.com/eng/view_id-7190.html . There are pictures of her big bathtub on her website, too. There's a picture of her holding a whip, so just be sure to tell her that you don't want to be tied up and whipped, that you're there for the relaxing bath treatment (she has different treatments). LOL ;0)

Just read in the Forum that Hyatt on Nathan will be demolished after Dec. 2005. What a shame. Good hotel to bring talent to.

Can anyone recommend a hotel nearby that has bathrooms with large bathtubs? - large enough for two?

I like taking nice long baths with talent I bring back.

I have been to the Sheraton nearby but do not like it too much.

Once again looking for 4-5 star hotel (hell I do not care how many "stars") as long as it is clean, safe, comfortable and has a bathroom with a LARGE bathtub fit for two. - thanks for feedback.

Sanshiro

11-29-05, 12:11

The Lmrk Mandarin has big size tubs for two and big bathrooms. Called in some outside help and got great service in the tub. Very Chic establishment.

Just read in the Forum that Hyatt on Nathan will be demolished after Dec. 2005. What a shame. Good hotel to bring talent to.
Can anyone recommend a hotel nearby that has bathrooms with large bathtubs? - large enough for two?
I like taking nice long baths with talent I bring back.

I have been to the Sheraton nearby but do not like it too much.

Once again looking for 4-5 star hotel (hell I do not care how many "stars") as long as it is clean, safe, comfortable and has a bathroom with a LARGE bathtub fit for two. - thanks for feedback.

Rick Hunter

11-30-05, 07:56

Ken welcome to HK.

To answer some of your questions:

>>>I know this has been discussed in some detail over the past 2 years or so but does anyone have any recent reports on streetwalkers in hk? Have heard there are many to be found in the Temple Street area and around Soy Street.
Are they mostly mainlanders or can one find thai / filipina (my fetish) SWs in that area. Would love to pick up one of these latter girls for fun.

I tend not to go for street walkers as I usual figure there is some reason why they are not in a nightclub/sauna/141/brothal/etc. They are usually mainlanders although you can see some Indians around. You've got the main area for them nailed.

>>>When you pick them up what is the deal - Take them to a nearby hourly hotel or do they have their own place. And how nasty can they get? I don't want a girl who refuses to do anything but mish....ideally i want rimming, CIM, the works...

I would assume you would take them to a nearby place but I've never pulled a street walker. For what you are looking for their are tons of places in the area. K Pressure seems to be a favorite of people on the boards. Golden Cumming Club is not bad either but considerably run down compared with K Pressure but #66 there gives really good service - usually CIM in the shower, then onto the bed for some of the best rimming I have had and then another shot. Some ladies are OK looking at Golden Cumming Club and others are hideous.

>>>Have seen several SWs in Wan Chai on jaffe road, lockhart (esp. outside the 7 eleven under the bridge), but the standard is not good and most seem to be ladyboys or old (50+!). Still, would be grateful for reports on these chick(boy)s!

The ladies tend to be in Fenwicks, Neptunes, Laguana, New Makarti, Borracci, Dreams II or on the street chilling just outside fenwicks. The street walkers are pretty much all ladyboys as none of the bars will let them enter. As for reports I do not know anyone who has tried one.

>>>Also heard about SWs around hotels in TST and on Nathan Road. Do they only work these hotels or if I pick em up on the street will they accompany me to a ST hotel in the area.

I think what you are refering to is than many of the nicer hotels have mainland girls "working" in some of the nicer bars. The norm would be to take them up to your hotel room if you are staying there. Of course if you pull a bird at the Pennisula you will be paying way more than she would accept if she was plying her trade elsewhere, which she will be later in the night if she can't get a bite.

>>> Also, has anyone tried the Colombian and S.American girls on offer in Fenwick. They also work the non-pro bars and I have seen them in places like dusk till dawn and Coyote. ....have heard they are not worth the price ($2k + LT?) and have crappy attitudes to boot.

I've not tried them because I have heard nothing but bad things about them in terms of service quality. I find it difficult to get decent white talent in HK, especially if you do not want to be playing with non-working girls. (HK is a small place, esp. the expat community)

>>> One final thing...how easy is it to pick up Indonesians and Filipinas for a freebie on a Saturday or Sunday in New Makati, Laguna etc. Some guys on here make it sound like shooting fish in a barrel. Is it?

It is like shooting fish in the barrel if you are between 25-40 and not ugly. The last three Sundays I have been with freebies. Last Sunday a freebe from a month a go called me up and said let's do lunch and fuck, so we did, then she went off to do her thing and then I hit Wan Chai and stumbled into someone else I knew who wanted to have some fun. Just be careful with who you pick up. There are many young lasses that are just horny and looking for fun and come to Laguana to do so, then there are the others that are looking for someone to improve their quality of life. These are the ladies that do not want to use condoms and WANT you to get them pregnant.

I hope that answers some of your questions Ken. I think in general you will find HK a fun place to play in and reasonably economical (although perhaps not compared to the rest of asia). I also think once you get your bearing more you will realize that there are so many different types of establishments here that street walkers are generally the bottom of the barrel with the exception of all the fillapino and thai "tourists" that are hanging around Wan Chai and TST.

Angel Abazdo

11-30-05, 07:59

Hi guys,

One final thing...how easy is it to pick up Indonesians and Filipinas for a freebie on a Saturday or Sunday in New Makati, Laguna etc. Some guys on here make it sound like shooting fish in a barrel. Is it? What are the chances of a decent looking expat guy in his early 30s rocking up to New Makati on a Sat afternoon, picking up a horny decent looking Indonesian and taking her to Villa Victoria for a few hours fun.

KenHi Ken and welcome in HK. You will love this place.

For this particular question, it is all a matter of attitude, but if you are not too shy and are not reluctant to make the first step, which is by the way consisiting in a steady eye contact and large smile to the girl you fancy, the odds are in the high 90%.

For the rest, forget about the Colombians in Fenwick, unless you can speak decent spanish and lead them to a more friendly discussion. It can be a great deal, but the wrong approach will get you a shit service, making the porn star experience better kept for your DVD sessions...

Spider916

12-01-05, 01:04

Hi Guys,

Just a quick question. Do the JW Marriott or the Grand Hayatt have some working girls in their bars? Which one would you recommend?

Thanks a lot

Regards,
Strato

Doerken2

12-01-05, 08:33

Thanks for the replies guys, much appreciated. Will be checking out Laguna, Makati etc on a forthcoming Sunday afternoon for sure. I've heard it can get pretty wild. Can't wait to build up a roster of horny indonesians and filipinas I can rely upon for Sunday afternoon fun!

Cheers also for the lowdown on the Colombians, sounds like I'd better give them a miss.

A shame about the apparent lack of decent Thai or Filipina SWs: wandering the streets, scoping the scene, picking up SWs and taking them to a short-time hotel is a personal fave of mine 'cause i get off on the seediness of it - but I am tempted to check out some of the younger Indians that have been reported on Mody Rd.

Also, regarding Wan Chai, are there any good pickings to be had very early in the morning, e.g. 4-7am? I'm not really one to go out, find a girl and then cop off early. I like to have a beer or six with my mates and then pick up a girl on the way home. Presumably all the best talent has been taken but what is available at this time and where?

Thanks again,

Ken

Laogua

12-04-05, 20:31

Went to this place recently. It was on the 5th floor of Causeway Bay Plaza (Phrase II). $700 HJ/$1,100 full service plus a 1.5 hour massage session, the place is quite clean and nice.

Rick Hunter

12-05-05, 07:19

The place seems quite expensive. Full service at a place like the Sands near Jordan with (fairly nice facilities) cost $928. In Yau Ma Tai you are looking at between $500-800 and in Mong Kok in the 500-700 range for full service plus 1.5hrs of massage at saunas. If you just want a hand job with an hour massage in Mong Kok you are looking in the $200-$300.

Went to this place recently. It was on the 5th floor of Causeway Bay Plaza (Phrase II). $700 HJ/$1,100 full service plus a 1.5 hour massage session, the place is quite clean and nice.

Didier5810

12-06-05, 13:57

Traveler1234

12-06-05, 14:33

Dear All,

As you know the ****** is a pretty good choice for mongering, they
propose two formula: go to the girl's place and go to hotel.

Any one can advise me how to use their service exactly ??

Thanks so much in advance !

-didier

You need to decide on which general area, eg building, etc. and make sure you have a couple of backups in case the one you want is 'busy'. Prices are listed on their website, it's safe and relatively straightforward!

RTFF, fellow monger did an excellent FR about 6-8 weeks ago....search '141' will pull up all the posts for you, along with some recommendations that should still be current. 'HK maps' thread has info also.

Didier5810

12-06-05, 15:12

Dear Traveller,

The price is for one pass or for 1 hour of time ?

Thanks a lot !

-didier

Bufalobil

12-07-05, 00:17

I go to Hkg about one a month and stay at the same hotel concourse, close to my working location. I am wondering if anyone knows of rooms to rent,or guest house situation, that is safe, full time (monthly rate), inexpensive an near the Prince edwards station.

I remember seeing something a while back but cannot find the message. Help would be appreciated.

Gyaos

12-08-05, 07:32

The place seems quite expensive. Full service at a place like the Sands near Jordan with (fairly nice facilities) cost $928.

Just go down the street and Jordan Sauna is $668 HKD for FS, but they may offer it at $600 even. Handjob, bodyslide, nude if you like is just $468. Girl will want $100 extra for BJ. I must say, this is the best bargain in town for a 1.5 hour massage, shower, locker and a real hot steam room. No pool, which is why it is cheaper.

Noble Sauna at TST is $498 for HJ, but girl keeps clothes on. Nice fascilities there. But BS is a jump to $798 and FS at $998. Girl will want the $798 and might just give a quick tug at the $498. That is why Jordan is better as the girls will do you well if they like you. I've been to Jordan so many times, they locker guy now say "Long time no see" to me. Honest!

Now if only we had Jordan in Tokyo.

Gyaos

Hommer

12-08-05, 20:53

Been to Ocean Dragon Sauna in the summer, it was about 11 PM but still a lot of guys hanging out there. So, it took quite a while (about 20 minutes) to get a room. Very clean environment, staffs and manager are quite friendly. Steam room and sauna room, but there's no pool. This was my first time to monger, maybe they knew I was a newbie, the girl is older than I expected (I think in her early 30s), while I am in my 20s. Quite dissappointed with the looks of the girl, but after the long flight and looking at those flight attendants makes me horny as hell, didn't care. I complaint about jetlag and I got a oil massage for the whole body. During the massage, she sometimes pressed her breasts against my back, in which know there's special menu. After going through the special menu, wanted to get a blow job and body massage but the price seems not worth it, so agreed to have a handjob. The girl went out to take a basket of goodies. Then, she took and clothes and my shorts off. She was jerking me off while I was sitting on the edge of the bed. I play with her tits and pussy. She was quite hairy, which is a turn off for me. I was so tired, so just lied back and enjoy the handjob. Then, she climbed on top of me, which I thought was I getting lucky for a free fuck. But no, she was just changing position like a 69, to jerk me off while I can play with her pussy. When a pussy and ass's facing in front of me, I am not tired anymore. I started to eat her pussy and she stopped and looked at me as if she was never got her pussy licked before. She then continued her duty and I continued to lick, rubbed and fingered her pussy. She got wet and she moaned. Her technique's great blow a huge load after 10 minutes. Clean up, get dress and left. Total damage: $788

Angel Abazdo

12-09-05, 04:26

Also, regarding Wan Chai, are there any good pickings to be had very early in the morning, e.g. 4-7am? I'm not really one to go out, find a girl and then cop off early. I like to have a beer or six with my mates and then pick up a girl on the way home. Presumably all the best talent has been taken but what is available at this time and where?

Thanks again,

KenActually, it is not a bad strategy... You can have some great talent at late hours, provided you are not turned off by having a 2nd or 3rd service in the night from a girl who will not have dried yet from the previous rodeo.

Fenwick is good until 5/5:30, later on you can give a go to Strawberries (even if it was far better some years ago) and for VERY late 6:30 until. 8:30 you can find some nice surprises (and lots of trash too) at the Bridge.

Sebastian My

12-11-05, 05:59

Dar,
I had a similar experience with a mongolian girl who worked in Hari's. I met her in Sticky Fingers. We agreed on 1000 all night and she left with some excuse after 2 rounds. But she was really good, so that I took her again, this time only having 500 in my pocket, telling her that I would have to go to the atm next morning. She still wanted to leave and was ok with 500. She told me she has only 2 weeks in HK and has to make as much as she can. If I could go to China with her after her visa finished, she would have more time and even not charge money. (True or not, I will never find out.)
Tiger

It may be true, i only have experience with mongolians from beijing, but once they have picked up sufficient money to make the trip worth-while they will sometimes provide freebies to people they like - especially if you buy them dinner and treat them nice. But we warned, they are a very hot bloodd race, if they get drunk or you make them angry - they go crazy!

Kens14

12-11-05, 12:17

this weekend was a revelation to me, it was a journey into ways in which my psychology may have changed.

friday night found me horny and early in dusk till dawn (there about 10.30pm). there were a few providers already there and i was getting, and giving, lots of looks. in came 3 drunk english girls, and after 2 dances with them i saw a freebie on the way. on we went to joe banana's, from there one of them had the pleasure of joining me in my bed for the night.

on saturday i'm wandering around central & the street festival in soho still feeling horny. however, what i want is not another tourist/expat but p4p. now, i've recently started to feel a bit too much of a regular around wanchai, it worries me when the girls recognise me ! so, after reading the sauna reports here i decide to make a little trip over to jordan. i decided to visit the jordan sauna.

the ride up in the lift and walk up the scabby stairs doesn't bode well for the fun ahead. when i'm shown straight into the locker room i am pleasantly suprised. it's not a 4 star operation, barely a 1 star operation, but it is very professional. the locker looks fine, the showers have good pressure and are hot, i'm given clean towels and a pair of sauna shorts etc.

i don't get to see a line up, and am shown directly to the room (which is a bit too dark for my liking). i am then joined by the girl. she's a mainland prc girl, fair looking, i'd put her about a 6. she then starts on the massge which is suprisingly very good - walking on the back, careful work on each individual vertebrae, oil massage, hot towels etc. this goes on for 45 mins.

she has interspersed the massage with some gentle ballsack and cock stimulation. however, she now starts to give me some serious attention in this area - tickling me with her finger nails whilst i'm laid on my front, my legs on her shoulders gets me seriously hard. her mouth is blowing around my arse, not quite rimming, but not far off. she then pulls me off like this & i have an earth shattering come. i've never been jacked off like this before - it certainly was amazing.

i lie on my back, and whilst she's cleaning me up i put my hand up her skirt and in her pants. she's pretty wet, but won't let me get my finger in too far. anyway, i'm soon hard again, she strips off and i see that she has a great rack on her, i'd give them a straight 10. about grapefruit sized, not at all affected by gravity with very pointy nipples - beautiful ! she also had a hairy pussy, which i much prefer to shaved. she had quite a bit of cellulite on her upper thighs, but this just makes her all the more shapely and sexy to me. i like my women to have womanly curves rather than stick thin (those thin girls are a bit too 'man like' in shape for my liking).

anyway, she gives me a tit wank, then a covered bj (which i don't mind as infection control is always on mind...,). she then lies on the table and i take her in mish, her legs on my shoulders, doggie and finish back in mish. she is suprisingly tight for a wg. she makes (fakes) all the requisite moans and yelps, starts to ask me to finish in cantonese - that only gives me more determination to hold off. the jerk off & fs lasted for about 30 mins in total. then it was back to the shower and out of there. she made absolutely no attempt to get a tip out of me.

after the shower i gave the towel guy a hk$20 tip, paid the hk$568 and left with a smile on my face. all in all, the jordan sauna was a hassle free, v.professional place to get a good massage and some decent sex for an ok price.

so, i walk back down nathan rd to tst. check out the freelancers on mody road, get the ferry from tst east to wanchai and go to watch the football. after the football, of course i'm drunk - oh dear. even though i know i should get in a cab, i think 'just one for the road' in dusk till dawn, which is bursting with providers.

there's loads of girls available in there. the full range from expats, aircrews, professional wg's and domestic helpers. i'm sure there's a little organisation of the wg's in there, but i shouldn't say anymore about that here. i'm after a domestic helper. there are a whole load of reasons why i find them to be the best option. suffice to say that the dh option optimises gratitude, performance and value for money ! i get talking to a filipino woman called grace, who tells me she is 39, i'd put her at 41. in her (ubiquitous) denim mini skirt and suede boots her legs will not let me 'out of their tractor beam' ! she agrees to hk$500 st.

i often find that with the domestic helpers st can easily become lt if they like your flat, you let the wine flow and are nice to them. true to form grace was reluctanct to leave at 10am when i decided to get rid of her. i got 1 pop with her after dusk till dawn all in mish (we were both too drunk to be bothered with anything else), then we slept for a few hours. i got 2 pops in the morning with her, the first one after doggie and cowgirl. the second after a bbbj, mish (covered) to finish.

so, in 2 nights in for hk$1,088 i've had 3 girls, 7 pops and lots of fun. obviously, it's a quiet sunday night with a big smile. however, i am slightly worried that i'm becoming addicted to the p4p as opposed to the freebies offered by westerners...., oh dear !

Gweilo

12-11-05, 20:12

A few minor corrections ... Laguna, New Makati, Boracay. And add to the list Old China Hand, Joe Banana, Dusk Till Dawn, Venue, Klong.

Also, aside from the Thai ladyboy hookers, who tend to mostly congregate on the corner outside of Delaney's, there are several mainland Chinese hookers who are not ladyboys - they tend to walk a circle around Luard, Jaffe, Lockhart, Fenwick. They also tend to be older and not in the best of shape. However they will be the cheapest option if that's more important to you.

Last ... Laguna, 40 is definitely not the upper age limit for shooting those fish in that barrel. I'm over 50 and have no problems there. A big smile and a fun attitude will take you a long way with a lot of the women who hang out there.

The ladies tend to be in Fenwicks, Neptunes, Laguana, New Makarti, Borracci, Dreams II or on the street chilling just outside fenwicks. The street walkers are pretty much all ladyboys as none of the bars will let them enter. As for reports I do not know anyone who has tried one.

>>> One final thing...how easy is it to pick up Indonesians and Filipinas for a freebie on a Saturday or Sunday in New Makati, Laguna etc. Some guys on here make it sound like shooting fish in a barrel. Is it?

It is like shooting fish in the barrel if you are between 25-40 and not ugly. The last three Sundays I have been with freebies. Last Sunday a freebe from a month a go called me up and said let's do lunch and fuck, so we did, then she went off to do her thing and then I hit Wan Chai and stumbled into someone else I knew who wanted to have some fun. Just be careful with who you pick up. There are many young lasses that are just horny and looking for fun and come to Laguana to do so, then there are the others that are looking for someone to improve their quality of life. These are the ladies that do not want to use condoms and WANT you to get them pregnant.

Zou Nivc

12-12-05, 10:46

Angel Abazdo

12-13-05, 09:24

Need some advice on solid high end saunas to host a bachelor party in Hong Kong. My two favorite spots are closed down - Lotus Sauna and Ocean Dragon Sauna ("renovating" due to WTO).

Jordan is okay but a little too run down for the event. Any nicer newer locations you guys would recommend?

ZouIf you are not reluctant to drop an extra couple $$$, take the ferry, go to Macau and pay a visit to Emperor Hotel Sauna. Unforgettable experience. Bit pricey, but worth every cent.

Tooch

12-13-05, 19:40

before i get into that, there is a good chance to find freebies in laguna and makati and borocay. however, you have a much better chance if you target indonesians (most people cannot tell them apart). most indonesian girls come from a very strict background and go wild once they find the freedom of hong kong. also, since they are already breaking many of their cultural taboos (drinking, going to the disco without a male relative, etc.) they aren't too fussy about the morality of it all. after they try some sex, many absolutely love it and want more. for many, it is just recreation. the filipinas are a different story because there are too many disapproving eyes about. for most of these girls, they don't want a bad reputation and have other filippinas talking about them. of course, everyone is different!

i have a comment on the filippina "tourists". i managed to speak to many who have gone through this nonsense from the phil. the truth of the matter is that most of these girls are getting scammed from their managers. chinese and filippinos entice these girls with images of riches. go to hong kong for a few weeks and the pesos will be rolling in. they are fronted a ticket to hong kong and that is about it. once they get here, their passport is confirep001ed.

the truth of the matter is that there are just too many service providers and many cannot make sufficient money once management fees, board, etc. are paid. many of them are just looking for a way back home! who makes money on this venture? obviously the managers who fronts the expensive ticket and board to come to this city. if the girl is good, they make their management fee. if not, they get money as travel arrangers as well as whatever they can extort to return the passport to its rightful owner (many girls will come up with money even if they have to beg it from their friends and family).

personally, i wish the disco bar scene would go back to what is was 5 years ago. although there were some prostitutes (mostly from thailand), most other p4p workers were freelancers. further, the discos were popluated with regular girls just looking to have fun.

anyway, my 2 cents

tooch

Cebu Local

12-13-05, 23:29