2006 General Reports

[Liondale]

Why would you pay 1600HKD for 1 hour? That is over $200US!!! With 1600HKD, you can get four 141 girls at 400 a pop and the odds of getting a good experience is so much higher. If you get a bad experience for $200, you're screwed! If everyone agreed to not pay more than 1000HKD, then the prices will go down. Just think about it, if they get a few customers a night and charge 1500HKD-2000HKD an hour, then they can retire in a few months and move back to the Philippines (in this case).

I agree with you on the principal on keeping the prices down. My prob is I don't speak Chinese and prefer a bit more time with the girl than just in and out, so 141 is not too appealing for me, cheap as it may be.
BTW; The 1500HKD was for a Venezuelan, the Asians went for around 1000HKD, but I would happily support a 1000HKD max protest :)

[Joe Banana]

I think too many guys are reluctant to haggle the price. As many others have stated the girls are selling a service but on many nights in wanchai there are more sellers than buyers. I often get an all night Filipina for $500, don't know about SAmerican cos I never felt inclined. Pick and choose and try to keep the price down.

[Stubnib]

Hi All,

I am looking for some guidance from those experienced in the quest of girls from websites such as those mentioned in the Title. I would very much like to find a Vietnamese girl who is available on this forum. Any assistance would be sincerely appreciated.

ThanksHaiphong,

I was with Funny last Thursday afternoon. She is Vietnamese but speaks good Cantonese and a little bit of English. A lot of fun and had good skills.

http://www.******.com/eng/view_id-10489.html

[Acer V]

I agree with the previous report. I regularly walk out of Neptunes with a HKD 500 agreement down from the initial quote of 1000. I refuse to pay more than $600 or $700 and that is only for the best looking talent. The latinos are too hardcore looking for me. I stick to the asias mostly the Thais.

[Nutso]

I've been a regular on the Wan Chai scene for a couple of years and an asking price of $1,000 is pretty standard, but can be negotiated down to $500. Latinos are consistently asking $1,500 - $2,000, but then they've got their pimps to pay and the airfare from Columbia/Venezuala is a lot higher.

The new twist for me came last Saturday when I took a Thai girl I met in Joe Bananas back to my place, having agreed on $800. She asked me for the money upfront. I politely said no, assuming she was new to HK or thought I was new to the scene. To my surprise, she suddenly got very serious, pulled her pants back on and said she was going to leave if I didn't pay first. I said fine, that she could go. When she realized I was now serious, she changed her tune, said it was a mistake, that we should just forget about it, etc. By that point, the sun was almost coming up and I had lost interest, so I gave her $100 just to get her out of my place. I went to bed alone, but I woke up $700 richer and my principles intact. Score one for the mongers! (I think).

Anyone else seeing an increase in the "money upfront" attitude or did I just catch the bad apple in the bunch?


I agree with the previous report. I regularly walk out of Neptunes with a HKD 500 agreement down from the initial quote of 1000. I refuse to pay more than $600 or $700 and that is only for the best looking talent. The latinos are too hardcore looking for me. I stick to the asias mostly the Thais.

[Rick Hunter]

So I have this fantasy about picking up two girls of different nationalities (ideally one Mongolian or Chinese, the other Filipina or Thai) for LT 3P/W Lesbian. Last year I stumbled across a lone Korean girl who was willing to play with a Filipina. I paid them HK$1000 each for short time but I was too drunk and pressed for time to really enjoy it. (Well, actually I enjoyed it a lot but I am hoping for more this time). However, I think I may have just gotten lucky that time as I have tried this previously w/o success. The Korean girl was hot in an OL kind of way, but I think she only comes (to Neptunes II) for infrequent visits. Plus no BBBJ, which is kind of a must.

Anyone ever gotten two girls who didnt know each other to play with each other? It seems to me that Nep II would be the likeliest place to go because of the variety of providers. Does anybody know anyplace else that might be good? (Fenwicks is always too crowded with pushy UGs). Also, any suggestions about how much should be offered or which nationalities might be gamest are also appreciated.

I've gotten a number of girls to do three ways. If you are not shy you should not have a problem at any of the spots in Wan Chai (Neptunes/Fenwicks/Laguna/New Makarti). About $700-$1,000 per girl for two hours should do it. As for girls of different nationalities at the same time I have not done that but I don't think it would be too hard if you are talking about Thai/Fillapino/Indonesian.

[Liondale]

I think the money discussion is good. At least I am learning to be a bit more aggressive on the haggeling.

[Ubersexual]

Thanks Rick Hunter for the encouraging words. Unfortunately, it turns out to be easier said than done. I agree that finding Thai's or Filipina's for 3P is relatively easy. Unfortunately, it seems that Thai's are less willing to cross national boundaries. Anyway, if it weren't a challenge to set up a MultiNational 3 Play, I probably wouldn't be that into it.

Went to Wanchai on a Thursday night. Got there a little before 10pm. Had a few Heinekens and scanned the likely joints. Seemed like a relatively high girl-to-guy ratio (especially at Boracay) but quality not so high. Fenwicks as usual was filled with ugly Asian girls, hard faced Russians and high silicon content Latinas. Went to Neptunes, seemed like mostly Filipinas, some Thais no Chinese. Went to Boracay, seemed like all Filipinas (per usual). Ran into Bianca, who I had previously encountered as the junior partner in an all-Filipina combination. Bianca is totally my type (petite, natural B-cups, big doe eyes) and is nice and I recalled good in bed. I suggest a ST combo with a Chinese or Thai girl for HK$800. She seems enthusiastic for Chinese; Thai, not so much. Two tall Chinese girls in Boracay, but they seem totally not into it. She is interested in trying a Columbian, but I say "No way, too plastic." Go to Fenwicks, all girls either UG or taken except sweet young Thai girl first night in HK. We offer $HK1000, she considers but decides against it. Offer $HK1000 to lone cute Chinese in Neptunes; she says "Not nearly enough". By this time ALL cute Thai's are taken from Neptunes. I decide to "settle" for an all Filipina combo with Bianca's friend for $800 apiece. Misty is same type as Bianca but not as cute.

Go to Victoria court. Girls willing but not overly enthusiastic to play with one another. They finger fuck each other and it is cool. I do Bianca doggy style for 15 minutes. She is tight and orgasmic (or good actress, who cares which). She cums and goes to take a shower. Switch condoms and do Misty. She is tight but not as tight and an average actress. Still after 10 minutes or so, I bust a nut. It turns out to be pretty good, mostly because I am so into Bianca.

[Tiger 888]

I've been a regular on the Wan Chai scene for a couple of years and an asking price of $1,000 is pretty standard, but can be negotiated down to $500. Latinos are consistently asking $1,500 - $2,000, but then they've got their pimps to pay and the airfare from Columbia/Venezuala is a lot higher.

The new twist for me came last Saturday when I took a Thai girl I met in Joe Bananas back to my place, having agreed on $800. She asked me for the money upfront. I politely said no, assuming she was new to HK or thought I was new to the scene. To my surprise, she suddenly got very serious, pulled her pants back on and said she was going to leave if I didn't pay first. I said fine, that she could go. When she realized I was now serious, she changed her tune, said it was a mistake, that we should just forget about it, etc. By that point, the sun was almost coming up and I had lost interest, so I gave her $100 just to get her out of my place. I went to bed alone, but I woke up $700 richer and my principles intact. Score one for the mongers! (I think).

Anyone else seeing an increase in the "money upfront" attitude or did I just catch the bad apple in the bunch?Before yesterday I would have rated it as a bad apple. But last night the same happened to me. I met a really sweet girl in Neptunes, and as we get to the room (we didn't negotiate the price, normally that is no problem) Back in the room she asked me how much I would give her. I said 1000. She said no. 1000 is for ST. I said no problem, gave her 100 for the taxi back. Then she decided she would stay. I was a bit psissed already, but she said she drank too much to go back. Then she wanted the money upfront. I said I don't have. Need to go to the ATM in the morning. She said OK, lets do a deed and then go out again to drink (it was 3am by that time). When I came up with some wine at home, she couldn't even finish the first glass. But in the end I got it sorted out and she stayed until 10 and surprizingly made the best out of it for both of us. But still nothing to write home about. One of the very few disappoinments so far, since I normally recognize what I will get.

[Ubersexual]

[Forgot to mention: Tipped girls extra $200 afterward. This is a little too much, but I thought that Bianca had really put in the extra effort to find 2nd girl. Besides, I only had HK$500 bills.]

1. So with my first venture a failure (to the extent that any night ending with a 3 play with two hot Asian chicks could be considered a failure), I need to reconsider strategy. Experience suggests that there are a lot of Filipinas in Wanchai and that many are willing to do a threesome with other nationalities. I think I should try to approach Chinese or Thai girls first and see if they are game. Then, if that works, we could try to find the Filipina. Problem is that there are so few Chinese girls and Thai's are all in Neptunes and they might lose face in front of their compatriots by going with a Filipina.

2. It seems like I might have been able to have gotten a Chinese or Thai girl to go with us if I had offered more money. However, I think it would be a mistake since I was already offering the upper end of the ST pay scale. If they werent into it at $1000, they might accept $1500 but they probably wont really go through with the lesbian stuff (Chinese girls having a tendency to overpromise anyway).

3. I will try again Saturday. Hopefully, the weekend will draw a lot of girls and England vs. Portugal will keep at least some of the lads home. Or maybe Sunday would be better. At the tail end of a bad weekend, maybe some girls will be a little bit more desperate. I will keep you posted.

[Rick Hunter]

Ubersexual - too bad you did not have more luck in getting your international threeway going.

I too was out in Wan Chai last night - arriving around 10:00. I had made plans to meet up with a really hot 20 year old filipina that I had a short time with about a week before. Her younger sister is also in town working and I was joking with her that I should take both of them back - not really expecting them to say yes given they are sisters. After checking her sisters passport to make sure she really was 18 -she was- we went for a short time at Ming Court. Not really any lesbian play but since they are sisters that was to be expected. They were both fun though. I switched back and forth between the two girls about 8 times - they did not make me change the condom. It was quite somthing to have two girls crouched doggie style waiting for you to flip back and forth between them. 5 or 6 thrusts in one and then 5 or 6 in the other. Did the same with them lying down in missionary style. Pounding one and kissing the other and then the reverse. Never had sisters before but it was quite an experience. Gave each girl 600 for a total cost of 1,200. They wanted me to head off to McDonald's with them afterwards but I was spent and ready to go home.

Not too often that I see non-domestic helper filipina's in the 18-20 range in Wan Chai. May - her bar name, the older of the two is quite attractive. He sister Gail - also bar name, was nice but not as pretty as May. They hang out at New Makarti -the disco not the girlie bar - if anyone wants to find them.

[Wild Child 1]

Hi Guys,

I am going to be in HK this Sunday > Tuesday

On previous visits I have maxed out in Wanchai (Fenwicks, Dusk till Dawn, Joe Bananas and Neptunes) and decided to move on after a 4 week visit when the bar maids knew me by name.

On my last trip I follwed Rick Hunter's advice and ended up in a Night Club in TST, which was by far the best experience ever in HK.

So apart from the above, is there anything new worth heading for in terms of Clubs in Wanchai where a lot of Girls go, or anything similar to the TST non rip off nightclubs on the Island side ?

And finally for those of you who have experienced Shanghai, anything similar to the Red Rope places in HK ?

thanks

[Autumn Lover]

This is located on Woo Sung St, off Jordan Rd and very near to Jordan MTR. It's big, and difficult to miss from Jordan Rd. Having been to Sun Hot in TST a couple of times, thought I'd give this a try (hoping for something a little less expensive!).

Anyway, usual SOP. I was with no. 102, whose massage skills were less than average. She was pleasant enough, though, from Xian. Spoke only Mandarin and Cantonese. Tried to convince me I was her first foreigner.

She was pretty enthusiastic for the sex, and was fairly tight. We got on pretty well, and she certainly seemed to orgasm. I imagine she doesn't have foreigners that often, even if I wasn't the first. CBJ was short, but then as the condom was not flavoured (unlike Sun Hot), I can hardly blame her. Why don't management provide these??

Facilities are good. Quite spacious, good TVs for World Cup footy if you're into that. Also did a foot massage, but at $98 for 30 mins, that's pretty expensive. However, I find an fm really rounds off sex wonderfully. Next time, however, I'll go to a place outside where it would the same price for double the time. The guy doing it was nice, though not terribly skilled. He tried to convince me that $50 was the standard tip for him. Yeah, right.

Price was more or less the same as Sun Hot ($960ish), but with the half hour fm as well.

Anybody have any very good sauna recommendations?

AL

[Superfly77]

Hi Guys,

I am going to be in HK this Sunday > Tuesday

On my last trip I follwed Rick Hunter's advice and ended up in a Night Club in TST, which was by far the best experience ever in HK.Hey Wild Child,

What was the club you went to? What was the experience?

Thanks,

Super

[Ubersexual]

Went out on Saturday night to take advantage of the World Cup fever and the resulting glut of girls. I was right. Business was slow for the girls. Warmed up dancing with some Indomaids at Laguna, but they were not interested in more. Went back to Boracay. Bianca was busy with some other guy. Oh well. Went to Neptunes. Lots of girls. Ran into May, the Korean girl from a few months ago (May from May!). Still no BBBJ, so we could not come to terms. Too bad. She is hot in K-girl OL sort of way. Looked around a bit. Saw a slim, petite girl with an adorable smile in tight t-shirt and jeans, more of a sexy tourist look than an OL look or an obvious pro look. She said her name was Amy and she was from Taiwan. PERFECT. Explained what I was into. Unfortunately, I Amy from Taiwan English No Good was a good 50% of her English vocab. Oh, well. Ran into Mona from Thailand. Tall, fair, pretty, fake C-cups, obvious hooker. Then, I started thinking it might be fun to match her up with sweet little Amy. Got Amy. Ran by my little plan. Amy didnt understand. Finally, I said "You sex her". Finally she got it. Never had 3 way before (Taiwanese guys must not have good imagination), but said OK for 1500 each. I know I should not agree, but I worried that I would miss a perfect chance, so I took it.

Went back to the place. Stripped and showered. Mona was game, but she also had some crap on her chest that made them taste like pesticide. Probably to keep scratchy cheeks of hairy gwailos (I plead guilty) far away. Amy was really sensitive and horny. Screamed (in a good way) when I had Mona kiss her nips. The look of amazed bemusement on Amy's face when she stuck her index finger all the way up in Mona for the first time was worth the $3000 right there. I boned Amy doggy and mish for about 20 minutes, she went and showered. Boned Mona, same. Still hadnt busted myself, so I decided to give sweet Amy a little more. Finally came.

Final Anaysis: This was fun. About the same amount of fun as doing the two Filipinas, but it was something different. I would do it again, if I can get it at a better price (it would be especially fun to match up Amy and Bianca), but I certainly wont make a fetish of it.

[JoseMarti]

It doesnt get better than this.

I set out to defy gravity. Despite all the members telling me it would be impossible to monger at 8 am, I wanted to prove them wrong. And fell flat on my face. BUT, in return I had the best sex with 2 stunning women in a 3 hr time span. Here is my story: Before I started my trip I did extensive groundwork. Scanned the 141 site for all providers that would give services at 10am. My goal was to bone two in the time that I had. I found the following early morning providers:

TST
http://******.com/eng/view_id-11531.html
http://******.com/eng/view_id-12180.html

Jordan
http://******.com/eng/view_id-5822.html
http://******.com/eng/view_id-11842.html


With great confidence, I arrived in HK in transit. Landed at 6am and had my departing flight at 4pm. I hung around the airport till 9am and then headed to immigration. Out of immigration and then headed to the Airport Express counter to get a roundtrip ticket for Kowloon $90. Waited for the train and landed in Kowloon. I neeed to exchange some cash and I heard that the "Far East Money Changer" next to the Kowlonn hotel gives the best rate. Took the K1 bus to Kowloon hotel.

Arrived 10am. Right on schedule. Walked over to the changer. If your facing the hotel, go left towards the Starbucks, then cross the street and turn right. The money changer is 3 stores up. I got HK$7.7 to the US$. I then walked straight towards Champagne court on Kimberly Road. Check out all 3 providers. No luck. Damn! Now what. It was frikin' humid and sweaty. I hiked up Nathan Road to Jordan. Next stop New Lucky House on Jordan Rd. Went up to the scoped out locations. No luck. Damn! You guys were right! The time was now 10:30am. Well, time for a back up plan. The backup plan was to head towards K Pressure. Since I had learned my lesson and did not want to get burned again, I heeded the advice from the fellow members and killed 30 minutes in Micky D's.

At 11am sparp, I got up and went to the faitful K Pressure. I arrived, was greeted and sent to the screening room. The 1st girl showed up. Dont remember her name, too complicated, plus I was too horny to remember. Shw was about 5'3", very nice rack, wearing a BEBE tank top. She seemed late 20's. She immediatly got with the program, stroked my cock , pointed to her mouth and said "good blowjob", then as I got an erection, she put her hand down my pants to check the good. Surprised at the size, she smiled and said, "good blowjob". alrighty girl, I'll rate ya when you're done. Mama-san came in and asked is she was ok. I wanted to check out who else was availabe so asked for another girl. The next one was YoYo, much taller, smaller breasts, and permed hair. Definetly not my type. Plus, she didn't give the warm welcome hug I got from girl #1. Rejected! Mama-san cam back and I asked for #1.

Headed up to the so called hotel. By the way. The rate has been increased to HK.$98. Got my clothes off and into the shower. The girl followed. She had the magnificent C-cups I had expected. Got the through cleaning and some hot water BBBJ. Headed to the bed and lay on my stomach. She started the sensual massage, then split my legs open. Uh Oh....the crack was cleaned and then she dove in. WOW! That was a first for me. She licked and licked like there was chocolate down there. Went on for a while, reaming, licking, massaging. Time to turn around now. She turned me over and went for my nipples. She sucked them hard, one at a time, with one had on my cock, then my balls, the a finger reaming me inside. This was truely insane. She looked at her watch to make sure I was getting the best bang for the buck and was not short changing me. After an extensive session of nipple sucking, BBBJ and reaming, she slipped on the raincoat and rode me like a cow girl. She was contracting her pussy and just eating up my cock with her pussy. I then flipped her over and nailed her with her legs spread. I asked her if I could come in her mouth. I dont think she understood, so I said screw it. Didnt want to make a mess. I was ready to blow and flipped her over in the doggy position. Rammed her hard and came inside her. Ah that was great. I rolled over on my back, she took off my condom and measured the cum in it and then gave me a thumbs up. She then measured my cock with her fingers and gave me a thumbs up. We then headed to the shower. She cleaned me up real good. After the shower she asked me to sit on the edge of the bed. With more time remaining, she gave me a neck and back massage. Ah this chick is wonderful! Time was up and we got dressed. I asked if I could take her pic, but she said no. Oh well I tried guys!!! She walked me back to the 1st floor and the mamasan wanted to make sure the girl was ok. I said she was fantastic and I walked out.

The time was now 12:15pm. Hmmmm...I have another 1.5 hrs to go, so I thought. Man I am boned out, maybe I can get a nice massage. Dont think I could fuck again so soon. I opened my print outs and choose 2 targets in National Court.

GiGi: http://******.com/eng/view_id-5317.html

Jenny: No longer on site, but address is National Court, Jordan, 3F, room I. Her stats are below.
Height:5'5"
Size :34C-24-36
Race : Malasian Mixed (Cantonese, English, Others)
Service: HK$ 350
Review :Sexy mixed gal~ Hot Hot Hot~

I went to the 1st provider GiGi. Her door was gate was closed. Damn. I then headed down to the 3rd floor for Jenny. The girl opened the door and my jaw dropped. she was onyl wearing sky blue bra and panties. It was the most beautiful woman I had ever seen. Very very very pretty face, fantatic c-cup tits, ready to be sucked a tiny tiny waste and a nice round hips. Not a flat butt like most of the girls you see on 141 site. I mean a perfect nice round ass. My God! She was stunning! I asked her if she provided a massage and how much. She said make love only and it would be HK$350. Fuck the massage I would give anything to be with this woman. I said ok and I walked in. Oh boy. I wasnt sure if I could perform and do a 2nd pop, but I was willing to take the risk. So in I went. She immediatly came up to me and started to undress me and folded all my clothes. She wouldn't even let me take off my shoes! She took off my shoes and my socks. She then walked over to her clothes shelf and took of her bra and panties. Wowzers. A perfect pair of breasts and a nice round butt were revealed. We headed to the shower. She started to wash me off. I was expecting the usual cleaning, but two things were different. She was extremely gental. She cleaned behind my ear then dropped to her knees, lifted my leg and out it on her thigh. She cleaned my feet and then in between my toes, one by one. Then the next left. That was refreshing :) After the shower we towel dried our selves and she asked me to lay on the bed on on tummy. Let the games begin! She kissed me all over starting from my ears (no wonder I got the ear cleaning), then down my back, butt, thighs, and to my feet. She kissed and carassed. She then parted my legs and gave me a nice ass lickin'. Twice in one day. After finishing up my back side, she flipped my over and came up to my face, kissing me gently, cheeks, and lips. She moved to my lips and then paid extra attention to my nipples. Sucking and licking. I was at total attention by now, and she wrapped her beautiful lips on my cock, sucking the tip, licking the shaft and then sucking up my balls. Wow, she was good. It wasn't like she did it in a professional way. It was more like my girl friend makling slow love to me. From my cock she moved to my legs and then to my toes. She asked me: Can I suck them? Who was I to say no? :) She started to suck my toes, one by one. Wow. I had never had this done to me. If you have never gotten your toes sucked, I recommend that you try it out. After great foreplay she whipped out the raincoat and mounted me like a cow girl. Her technique was much much better then the first girl. She arached her back, her perfect breasts moving up and down. I pulled her towards me, kissed her and then sucked those perfect breasts of hers. She then got in the squat position and pumped my cock. I was about to explode but wanted to try 2 more positions. I asker her to jump off and lie on her back. She immediatly got off and lay on her back, her butt on the edge of the bed, legs spread. It was like she was reading my mind. I pumped her at the edge of the bed. In the process I asked if I could cum in her mouth. She said ok! YES!!! Wanting one more position i turned her around in doggy position standing up and pumped her. When I was ready to blow, I flipped her around, she fell to her knees and took my cock in her mouth. Then I came and she sucked every drop out of me. Wow. That was nice. Once done, we headed to the shower again, got cleaned up. Dressed. After dressing, I asked her if I could take her pic. She said only if I am with her. I said sure. So attached is a crappy cameraphone pic minus me.

[Sinnatic]

JoseMarti,

It sounded like a very intense 4 hours that you had!! Welcome to the Hong Kong and you definitely had the best of it!! I never tried K-pressure, but given all the good reviews it had, I think I should go once at least!!

For the Jenny review that you gave. I am not entirely sure if it is indeed Jenny that you had. If you were looking at older ****** posts, that Jenny from 3I National Court should look like this the attached instead. She is one of my stars and the service was pretty similar to what you wrote. I guess they have the same father, so when the real Jenny was off, they put in another girl. The Jenny I was with had been there for almost 8 months (I went to her starting Oct 05, and last met her 4 weeks ago).

Looks like the girl you had (Jenny #2) is very cute as well (less make-up) =p

[Rick Hunter]

Sometimes on these boards you here someone refer to all the go-go bars on Wan Chai road that have mamasans trying to drag tourists inside with the promise of free beer. While I tend to think these places should be avoided (as there are better and cheaper alternatives) no one has really posted what they are all about. Today when reading one of my favorite HK blogs (Hongkie Town - about a guy who plays in Wan Chai a lot) there were two posts summarizing Wan Chai that I thought would be useful to share. Here is the first about the girlie bars in Wan Chai (the next will be about the freelancer places). From Hongkie Town:

Friday, June 30, 2006
Gardens of Evil

In the interest of having something to blog about, I'll respond to a recent question from an anonymous commenter.

If you've been in Wanchai, you've likely seen the go go bars that line Lockhart Road. If you haven't been to Wanchai, you've probably heard about them. They line Lockhart Road with bright neon signs advertising "model dancers." Girls and mama-sans sit out on the street, asking you to come in for "just one drink" or that it's happy hour or "just take quick look." The names include San Francisco, Show Biz, Cock Eye (used to be Popeye till they were threatened with a lawsuit), Venus, Firehouse and so on.

Here's the deal, as best I know.

These places date back to the 60s in one form or another. At one point they featured topless dancing but the government put a stop to that by stopping issuing licenses for topless - as places came and went, bought and sold, topless became a thing of the past.

Where they once featured Chinese girls, now the girls are mostly from the Philippines and Thailand. If it's their first time here, they were brought over by a pimp in their country who may or may not have told them what they were getting into. Sometimes they are told the truth, sometimes they are told they will just be dancing or working as a hostess. At any rate, most of them are quite lovely, often better looking than most of the freelancers you'll find in the discos. When you walk by the bar and they call to you, it's not the easiest thing in the world to resist.

When you go inside, you will see several girls, usually in lingerie, listlessly shuffling their feet, a vague attempt at dancing, on a small stage with polls. You sit at the bar and you're surrounded by women who aren't currently dancing. They'll ask the standard questions - your name, where you're from, where you're staying, your reason for being in town. Part of this is to size up how much they think they can get from you - if you're at a 5 star hotel or a 3 star hotel, an ex-pat banker or a starving writer.

After a few minutes, the mama-san will come over and ask if you want to buy drinks for the girls. Your drink is the normal price or sometimes a bargain price. There are three levels of ladydrinks, the top one running HK$350 or so. That's US$50 for a glass of coke or fruit juice. For each drink you buy, a ticket is placed in a cup. At the end of your visit, they figure your bill by adding up the tickets.

Once you get to the second or third drink, the girl will go to work on you. Most of these bars have semi-private areas with booths. Because they are often surrounded with plastic flowers and bushes, these areas are known as Jurassic Park. Buy a few drinks and you can get a handjob or a blowjob. Yeah, you'll end up spending over HK$1,000 for a handjob here.

If you're really in love, you can take your new-found friend out. Usually you'll have to pay a barfine of HK$2,000 or more (the later it is, the more negotiable they are) plus a thousand or two to the girl. Years ago, guys worked out a deal where they'd go there, buy a girl they like a few drinks, then arrange to meet her afterhours at Strawberries, so they could at least avoid paying the barfine. The mama-sans got wise to this and started going to Strawberries themselves, keeping an eye on the girls, not allowing them to go off with guys.

Who goes to these bars? People on expense accounts, tourists who don't know where else to go, people who are so rich they don't care about the price. Back in the 90s, when I worked for a bank (and was making more money than I am now) and the freelance scene wasn't so well developed, these places were a big hangout for us. I don't set foot in them anymore though some of the mama-sans still remember me and will chat with me on the street even though they know I don't go in anymore.

The mama-sans have astonishing memories. They not only remember customers, they remember what the customer spent the last time he was in. Their goal is to always get you to spend the same amount (or more) as last time, never less. As I said, the girls are often quite lovely. They know how to keep the conversation moving because that's part of what they do. They can appear to be as sweet or as naughty as you prefer. It's not an easy thing to resist. I resist because I've "been there, read the book, saw the movie, bought the DVD."

My last visit to one of these places was years ago and went something like this: I was alone and I don't recall exactly why, but each time when I was asked if I wanted another drink, I said yes. Cans of beer at the time. At the end of the night, I had 10 cans of beer in front of me, though I had only taken a sip or two out of each. When I was presented with the bill, it was about three times higher than it should have been. I grabbed the tickets out of the mama-san's hand and started counting off, very fast, "330, 660, 990, 1320 ..." and her jaw just dropped. She had thought I was seriously drunk and here I was, stone cold sober. Before she spoke, she picked up each can of beer in front of me. Finding each of them full, her mouth opened again and then she finally said, "so sorry, did not use calculator." She also assumed that I didn't want my change back, which I did.

People walk by these places and see that they are often devoid of customers, yet they stay in business year after year and so there is an assumption that something else is going on. The usual guess is money laundering for the triads. I've never seen any evidence of this.

If you do the math, I think it's safe to assume that each place can pull in a minimum of HK$10,000 per night (and usually more). $10k assumes just a small handful of customers, maybe ten guys over the course of ten hours, spending around 500 or 1,000 each. Maybe one or two barfines per night, so that's several thousand more there. A thousand a night is 300,000 per month - and thanks to visiting businessmen and the regular appearance of the US fleet, I suspect each place is grossing around a million per month. I think it would be safe to say that the expenses would be covered by 150k or so. So they can be quite profitable merely as fronts for prostitution.

A couple of years ago, I was dating a girl who told me that her father owned or co-owned several of these bars. She said, "I never want to walk down the street with my boyfriend and have these girls come running out and know him." I figured that her father had to be in bed with the triads to some extent and the last thing I wanted was to have this girl be mad at me and go running to her father. The relationship did not last long.

Last thing for now - every night, if you pass by early enough, you'll see all the mama-sans and girls engaged in the same ritual, burning an offering on the street, shaking incense sticks, praying. Most people and businesses only do this on holidays, but these places do it every night. Why? It's because they know they are in an evil business - promoting prostitution and ripping off customers when given the chance - and they are doing it to keep angry ghosts and evil spirits away.

[Rick Hunter]

Here is Spike from Hongkie Town's second post about the Wan Chai scene that he wrote in response to some questions about his post on go-go bars. (Spike is a frequent visitor to Wan Chai to meet freelancers and his post is blog is quite a good read, I'd post the link but I am not sure what the rules are about that). From Hongkie Town:

Saturday, July 01, 2006
In Summary

My first reaction to two recent comments was: jesus h christ on a bicycle, guys, I've done nothing but write about the places I go to and the deals there for the past year and a half. But on further thought, I don't suppose there's a single post I can point to that summarizes the deal. So here we go.

In Wanchai, there are a number of discos and bars that fill up with "freelance" prostitutes on a nightly basis. I put the word "freelance" in quotes because quite often, these women are brought over to HK by pimps. The pimps provide the visa, an airplane ticket and a place to stay. In return, the women pay them off on a daily rate, often having to pay back up to three times the amount the pimp has laid out.

These women literally come from all over the world. Most are from Thailand and the Philippines, but I have also met women from Korea, China, Malaysia, Indonesia, eastern Europe and South America.

'Twas not always thus. Back in the 90s, if you went to these bars, the women were mostly maids on their day or night off. If you were looking for a hooker, your basic options were the expensive night clubs, the rip off go go bars or "a rub and a tug" at some dodgy sauna. The prevailing wisdom at the time was that if you wanted to get laid, it was cheaper to fly to Manila and stay in a 5 star hotel for the weekend than have a single night out in Hong Kong.

I believe that the turning point was the Asian currency crisis in the late 90s. It was around '98 or '99 that Southeast Asian women started turning up in increasing numbers in Wanchai, "tourists" on short term visas. Sometimes these women were sex workers in their native countries; more often it seems they are poor, down-on-their-luck women looking to make some fast cash away from the watchful eyes of their friends and families. The good ones can make as much in a month as they can make in a year back home. The unlucky ones barely earn enough to pay off their pimps and can go home practically emptyhanded.

The past few years has seen a larger influx of the eastern Europeans and South Americans but I can't identifying a "tipping point" there - there were always some, working in the nightclubs or prowling the casinos in Macau - but now you see dozens of them in the HK discos, seemingly more every week. (Think of the economics of it for a moment - a woman from Colombia or Venezuela can fly all the way here and stay here for a month and earn enough money to make that long trip worthwhile.)

The places are, in no particular order: Fenwick, Neptune II, New Makati, Boracay, Laguna, Dreams II, Strawberry, Rouge. It spills over into some of the neighboring bars to some extent: Joe Banana, Dusk Til Dawn, Venue, Old China Hand, Bridge, Carnegie and others.

Some (in particular Laguna and New Makati) are also home to maids on their day off, especially weekends during the daytime. Some (such as Joe Banana and Dusk Til Dawn) may have a mix of working girls and "normal" women. Most do not allow ladyboys in (Dusk Til Dawn seems to be an exception here). Some feature live music (the best bands can be found, in order, in Dusk Til Dawn, Fenwick, Neptune). Most of the places do not get busy until after 10 PM but they each have their peak hours - The Bridge is busiest between 7 AM and noon!

(For those who may be wondering, this is not just confined to Wanchai; this "scene" has spilled over slightly to Lan Kwai Fong (notably Bar George) and Tsim Sha Tsui (especially Hari's and Sticky Fingers).)

So, how does this work? Each of these places has an admission fee or says "members only," and that's the first ugly secret - if you are a white guy, you are not charged admission unless you are new and actually stop at the desk and offer to pay. If you are African, Chinese, Indian or a U.S. serviceman on shore leave, they will charge you, except if you are with people they know or are yourself recognized as a regular.

In the bars, some of the girls are bold and will come right up to you, others wait to be approached. Each bar has a slightly different character to it and each girl has her own style. Each bar has their own version of a lady drink, usually at two levels - something running around HK$70 and the more popular HK$140 option - and sometimes these drinks contain alcohol, sometimes they don't. The girls get a commission back for this (watch carefully and you'll see the waitress or bartender slip a small coupon into the girls' hands with each drink, though apparently at Laguna the waitresses just keep a sheet somewhere instead). Some girls simply work off the drink commissions and do not leave the bar.

Because these girls are freelance to some extent, they have the freedom to say no to you. Some will just give you the cold shoulder, others might use the excuse that it's their time of the month or that they just work off commissions. Each girl is different. Some are hardcore and strictly in it for the money, others are actually looking for steady boyfriends - either to get out of "the life" or for some form of stability in between working nights.

In terms of price, your mileage will vary. The average price for Southeast Asian girls is HK$1,000 for short time or HK$1,500 for all night. I've heard of some girls going for much lower, while the non-Asians will try for double. The Chinese girls will say, "you should pay me more, I'm Chinese, not some Filipino." When some Thai girl says to me that she wants HK$2,000, I will always respond by saying, "you know I've lived here a long time, I know the prices."

Where do you take your new sweetheart? If you're not staying in a hotel and you can't (or don't want to) bring her back to your home, there are a number of "love hotels," nearby spots with hourly rates. The girls know them all. The hotels all require you to sign in but do not check IDs - in one, all the staff knew me as "Tung Chee Hwa."

For a long time, Neptune has obviously been my favorite place. The women are mostly Thai, the staff are all friendly, the band is decent, and they don't push the drinks too hard. Laguna is number two and lately could even hit the number 1 spot. Strawberry is generally my least favorite - it is the least crowded and has the highest number of girls working just on drink commissions. Fenwick is my second least favorite, as they seem to take advantage of the girls who work there, as well as pushing the drinks really hard.

Finally, a note on the legality of it all - it's all illegal. Yes, in Hong Kong, prostitution is legal, as long as it is one woman who is a legal resident working on her own. "Living off the earnings of prostitution" - being a pimp - is illegal. And for someone who is in town on a tourist visa, work of any kind is illegal. So all of these girls are seen to be working illegally and they are liable to arrest and deportation.

The police raid these places on a semi-regular basis. You'll know when they are there - the music will stop, the lights will come on, and the cops come in force to check IDs for illegal immigrants and overstayers. Every now and then they'll send in some undercover cops to work the bar and, if I recall correctly, in the course of their duties, courts have said it is okay for the cops to get a handjob "collecting evidence" but not full on intercourse.

The amount of time a girl can stay in Hong Kong seems to vary by where they are from and how often they've been here before. It can be anywhere from 10 days to two months. When their visa is close to expiration, they will usually take the train up to Shenzhen, stay overnight, and cross their fingers on re-entry that they will get at least another 14 or 30 days. But some times, when a girl has been back and forth too many times, she will only get 24 hours.

So some of these girls, once they go back home, change their passports. For some, they will simply "lose" their passport and get another, hoping that when they go through immigration, the lack of previous HK entry stamps will be enough. Others will get new passports under new names, which is presumably more expensive but also more effective.

So that's the Wanchai disco scene. Hong Kong also has a wide selection of brothels, escort services, saunas, expensive nightclubs, internet cafes, streetwalkers. Commercial sex is widespread here and not in any way just limited to white guys.

The attitude towards pay-for-play is very different than it was in the U.S. Most of my friends who are in the U.S. are horrified by my lifestyle here (and stopped reading my blog a long time ago). But here, it seems to be an accepted part of the social scene for many men. Some are cheating on their wives or girlfriends (and often don't consider to be cheating as it is not having a girlfriend or an affair) while some are looking to avoid relationships altogether but don't want to forego sex. Some men in search of sex avoid this scene, either for one of the options mentioned in the previous paragraph, or they prowl other bars (especially in Lan Kwai Fong) in search of one night stands.

Am I proud that I know about all this stuff? Not necessarily, but clearly I'm not very ashamed of it either

[Wild Child 1]

Hey Wild Child,

What was the club you went to? What was the experience?

Thanks,

SuperThe one I went to was the New Paris Club, I think it's at Mody Square and very close the famous B-Boss club.

I went there again last night, and my colleague and I took 2 lovely Mainland Chinese girls back to our hotels, mine was wild and for a Short Time session, she ended up staying for 3 hours.

Total Cost Breakdown:

1 hour in VIP room = 520
Bar Fine/Take Out fee = 250
Drinks = 100
Girl = 1500

Not cheap by any means for 4 hours of fun at nearly 2500, but a lot different then the Wanchai filipino crowd, and both times I have been have ended up getting real cuties and their direct phone numbers.

Wild Child

[Tiger 888]

After the raid a couple of weeks back it was the first time yesterday that I noticed quite some girls on the street in TST east. Things seem to get back to normal.

[Ruf66]

[QUOTE=Rick Hunter]

Fanstastic report - you have summed it all up - having lived in HK for 8 months and spent many nights in all the bars - you have given the newbies a great report.

[Rick Hunter]

Ruff66: Thanks but all I did was copy and paste two blog entries from Hongkie Town's blog - he was the one the took the time to write everything up. I agree with you it is quite accurate.

[Traveler1234]

Ruff66: Thanks but all I did was copy and paste two blog entries from Hongkie Town's blog - he was the one the took the time to write everything up. I agree with you it is quite accurate.

Do a google search and you'll find his blog. Very interesting reading on variety of HK and related topics.... IMHO

[Sinnatic]

I was bored and went to Fenwicks before heading to see the World Cup final 8 match. Bumped into 2 girls who we had just casual chat: Mia and Jane. Not the superstar type but nice enough to talk to.

Info I got was: Different drinks are offered different at prices. Magaritas is the cheapest (costed me $150 for 2), and they said - never order Taquila Rock N Roll which is going to cost you at least double that price.

Hope this helps.

[Lossapenny]

Hi guys,

I just want tell my recent story happened at Hong Kong which you must pre-caution if you want to find the call girls from the escort agents which advertise on 2-3 local adult magazines saying HKD500 for 3 hours outcall to all major hotels.

I was in Hong Kong last week for business last week and on the night before I leave, I feel so honry at the hotel but I don't want to go outside since the days I stay are so hot and humid; therefore, I dig out the escort agent phone number from the adult magazines which I brought then I call the number and reconfirm the charge of $500 with the mamasan who pick up my call. To make the story short, the call girl (+/- 25 yrs old, average body & look) came into my room then ask for the money up front, I think it's ok and paid $500 plus tip $100.

After the services for around 30 mins of SOG, the girl immediate go to shower and she made a phone call to her agent who ask me to pay for $6000.00 or otherwise, he warn me that I'll be in trouble as this girl he hire is from a high class night club and he has couple of guys at the hotel is waiting for her and if I refuse to pay for it, those guys will come into my room.

Frankly speaking, I'm a business man and even I'm not willing to pay to her but I really don't want to get into trouble specially during business trip, thus, I paid the money to the girl then she run away immediately.

I just want to tell that it is my true story happened last week and want to remind you all to pre-caution those escort agents at Hong Kong.

[William Tellhk]

Hi guys,

I just want tell my recent story happened at Hong Kong which you must pre-caution if you want to find the call girls from the escort agents which advertise on 2-3 local adult magazines saying HKD500 for 3 hours outcall to all major hotels.

I was in Hong Kong last week for business last week and on the night before I leave, I feel so honry at the hotel but I don't want to go outside since the days I stay are so hot and humid; therefore, I dig out the escort agent phone number from the adult magazines which I brought then I call the number and reconfirm the charge of $500 with the mamasan who pick up my call. To make the story short, the call girl (+/- 25 yrs old, average body & look) came into my room then ask for the money up front, I think it's ok and paid $500 plus tip $100.

After the services for around 30 mins of SOG, the girl immediate go to shower and she made a phone call to her agent who ask me to pay for $6000.00 or otherwise, he warn me that I'll be in trouble as this girl he hire is from a high class night club and he has couple of guys at the hotel is waiting for her and if I refuse to pay for it, those guys will come into my room.

Frankly speaking, I'm a business man and even I'm not willing to pay to her but I really don't want to get into trouble specially during business trip, thus, I paid the money to the girl then she run away immediately.

I just want to tell that it is my true story happened last week and want to remind you all to pre-caution those escort agents at Hong Kong.

What you should have done is call 999 and report to the police. In HK YOU didnt do anything illegal.
General note, and most ppl who live here for a longer time know that, KEEP AWAY from HOTEL ESCORTS.

Happy hunting.

[Peter Eastwest]

Why not tell us the name ofthe agency so members can avoid them. Also others who read this forum will know them and they will lose face for their bad dealing and theft

Name them and shame them.

PE




Hi guys,

I just want tell my recent story happened at Hong Kong which you must pre-caution if you want to find the call girls from the escort agents which advertise on 2-3 local adult magazines saying HKD500 for 3 hours outcall to all major hotels.

I was in Hong Kong last week for business last week and on the night before I leave, I feel so honry at the hotel but I don't want to go outside since the days I stay are so hot and humid; therefore, I dig out the escort agent phone number from the adult magazines which I brought then I call the number and reconfirm the charge of $500 with the mamasan who pick up my call. To make the story short, the call girl (+/- 25 yrs old, average body & look) came into my room then ask for the money up front, I think it's ok and paid $500 plus tip $100.

After the services for around 30 mins of SOG, the girl immediate go to shower and she made a phone call to her agent who ask me to pay for $6000.00 or otherwise, he warn me that I'll be in trouble as this girl he hire is from a high class night club and he has couple of guys at the hotel is waiting for her and if I refuse to pay for it, those guys will come into my room.

Frankly speaking, I'm a business man and even I'm not willing to pay to her but I really don't want to get into trouble specially during business trip, thus, I paid the money to the girl then she run away immediately.

I just want to tell that it is my true story happened last week and want to remind you all to pre-caution those escort agents at Hong Kong.

[Amazing Hkg]

Why not tell us the name ofthe agency so members can avoid them. Also others who read this forum will know them and they will lose face for their bad dealing and theft

Name them and shame them.

PE================

Or better still, name them, and we organise our own 'sting' operation on them. They will shit their pants if we organise such a sting with foreigners arguing in Cantonese :)

They might think again before screwing around with us foreign devils!

[Rick Hunter]

I agree name them and shame them. I would also report the agency to the authorities. At the time you should have called 999 and had the police come and pick up the lady and charge her for threatening you. You got scammed big time (I highly doubt they had two guys down in the lobby - the local triads would not want that type of attention - gweilo tourist beaten up in 5 star hotel would bring down a rain of fire from the cops for causing tourism Hong Kong to lose face).

I am surprised that people who read this board even call escort agencies here given how many people say not to. A few months back someone reported a scam like this - although I do not think the amount was they were taken for was so large.


Why not tell us the name ofthe agency so members can avoid them. Also others who read this forum will know them and they will lose face for their bad dealing and theft

Name them and shame them.

PE

[Lossapenny]

Unfortuniately, I didn't bring the magazine with me on my way back so I couldn't name it but it is easy to find their advertisement from the local adult magazine name "Drangon, Tiger, Panther" which advertise at the middle of the magazine and have total 4 escort agents' advertisement together. As what I remember, the agent who rob me is the one show on the top of the left page.

Anyway, so much appreciates for all you guys comments and I do hope the guys who is running this kind of escorts agency at Hong Kong should understand this kind of case might kill all their future business as at least, I won't take any risk again in my future trip to Hong Kong.


I agree name them and shame them. I would also report the agency to the authorities. At the time you should have called 999 and had the police come and pick up the lady and charge her for threatening you. You got scammed big time (I highly doubt they had two guys down in the lobby - the local triads would not want that type of attention - gweilo tourist beaten up in 5 star hotel would bring down a rain of fire from the cops for causing tourism Hong Kong to lose face).

I am surprised that people who read this board even call escort agencies here given how many people say not to. A few months back someone reported a scam like this - although I do not think the amount was they were taken for was so large.

[Acaryu]

Hi guys,

I just want tell my recent story happened at Hong Kong which you must pre-caution if you want to find the call girls from the escort agents which advertise on 2-3 local adult magazines saying HKD500 for 3 hours outcall to all major hotels.

I was in Hong Kong last week for business last week and on the night before I leave, I feel so honry at the hotel but I don't want to go outside since the days I stay are so hot and humid; therefore, I dig out the escort agent phone number from the adult magazines which I brought then I call the number and reconfirm the charge of $500 with the mamasan who pick up my call. To make the story short, the call girl (+/- 25 yrs old, average body & look) came into my room then ask for the money up front, I think it's ok and paid $500 plus tip $100.

After the services for around 30 mins of SOG, the girl immediate go to shower and she made a phone call to her agent who ask me to pay for $6000.00 or otherwise, he warn me that I'll be in trouble as this girl he hire is from a high class night club and he has couple of guys at the hotel is waiting for her and if I refuse to pay for it, those guys will come into my room.

Frankly speaking, I'm a business man and even I'm not willing to pay to her but I really don't want to get into trouble specially during business trip, thus, I paid the money to the girl then she run away immediately.

I just want to tell that it is my true story happened last week and want to remind you all to pre-caution those escort agents at Hong Kong.

I was in Hong Kong a few years ago and the same thing happened to me. Dont use escorts in HK. Go to the Sauna, nightclubs, bars or the 141 girls.

[Ace Gallant]

hi guys,

i just want tell my recent story happened at hong kong which you must pre-caution if you want to find the call girls from the escort agents which advertise on 2-3 local adult magazines saying hkd500 for 3 hours outcall to all major hotels.

i was in hong kong last week for business last week and on the night before i leave, i feel so honry at the hotel but i don't want to go outside since the days i stay are so hot and humid; therefore, i dig out the escort agent phone number from the adult magazines which i brought then i call the number and reconfirm the charge of $500 with the mamasan who pick up my call. to make the story short, the call girl (+/- 25 yrs old, average body & look) came into my room then ask for the money up front, i think it's ok and paid $500 plus tip $100.

after the services for around 30 mins of sog, the girl immediate go to shower and she made a phone call to her agent who ask me to pay for $6000.00 or otherwise, he warn me that i'll be in trouble as this girl he hire is from a high class night club and he has couple of guys at the hotel is waiting for her and if i refuse to pay for it, those guys will come into my room.

frankly speaking, i'm a business man and even i'm not willing to pay to her but i really don't want to get into trouble specially during business trip, thus, i paid the money to the girl then she run away immediately.

i just want to tell that it is my true story happened last week and want to remind you all to pre-caution those escort agents at hong kong.

i am surprised that such a thing still happens. are we talking about this agency named "movie stars secrets" ?

i'll like to share true a story which happened to me:

i was in hk 5 years ago and hired their escort. the same thing happened to me in which the girl asked me to pay hk$5000. i told her that i do not have the amount of cash but can get my assistant to bring the money. she agreed and i pick up the phone, called my "assistants" (who are staying next couple of rooms); told them what happened (in japanese language - which i figured that the girl does not understand). within seconds, all my 4 "assistants" knock at my door which i opened. they rush in and held her down. one of them told her in cantonese that she must have guts to play this trick on me. she better open her eyes to see who she is dealing with.

having said that; he than asked me what shall they do to her. i told them, they should [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) her to death and than throw her into the sea. the girl plead for forgiveness saying that she is just playing a joke on me. we told her that we will forgive her and let her off if she does bj for all my “assistants” in which she actually agreed and did the job. my “assistants” escorted her out of the hotel after that. there was no big mafias or no big guys waiting to help her.

after this lesson learnt, i never called for escort services in hong kong not because i am afraid that i have to deal with mafias, but mainly because it totally kills the mood. i was lucky to travel with my “staff” at that time. but i am aware that not everybody is as lucky as me to travel with friends or staff. so having said so; stay away from outcalls escort service.

but as what rick hunter said; it is unlikely that mafias will want such attention. besides all this just for hk$6000? the mafias are not interested in such small amount of money. they are interested if the deal is multi-million dollars such as dealing in drugs!

so, having said that, i believed 100% in what “loseapenny” said. such things happen. but important is to keep your cool and think of the best solution.

keep cool and stay safe.
ag

[Ruf66]

I had the same issue a few years ago -where I had paid the girl but suddenly on the phone a guy said if I did not pay 5000 I would be in trouble. I said fine - and I will call 999 - and suddenly the problem went away. Actually got a free shag as the girl got so scared she gave me my money back.

So just remember - HK lives off the guests not the people who visit and shag!!

[Sanshiro]

If you read these posts you will quickly realise the HK is so user friendly that there is really no reason to use an escort agency. Just go to Wanchai and pick up a girl. Its cheaper, safer, you get what u see and its GFE.

BTW, I don't think this kind of shakedown would occur in one of the five star hotels.

[Superforce99]

hey ag,

where did you find the escort? was she chinese? and did i read right
that you and your assistants raped her??


j





i am surprised that such a thing still happens. are we talking about this agency named "movie stars secrets" ?

i'll like to share true a story which happened to me:

i was in hk 5 years ago and hired their escort. the same thing happened to me in which the girl asked me to pay hk$5000. i told her that i do not have the amount of cash but can get my assistant to bring the money. she agreed and i pick up the phone, called my "assistants" (who are staying next couple of rooms); told them what happened (in japanese language - which i figured that the girl does not understand). within seconds, all my 4 "assistants" knock at my door which i opened. they rush in and held her down. one of them told her in cantonese that she must have guts to play this trick on me. she better open her eyes to see who she is dealing with.

having said that; he than asked me what shall they do to her. i told them, they should [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) her to death and than throw her into the sea. the girl plead for forgiveness saying that she is just playing a joke on me. we told her that we will forgive her and let her off if she does bj for all my “assistants” in which she actually agreed and did the job. my “assistants” escorted her out of the hotel after that. there was no big mafias or no big guys waiting to help her.

after this lesson learnt, i never called for escort services in hong kong not because i am afraid that i have to deal with mafias, but mainly because it totally kills the mood. i was lucky to travel with my “staff” at that time. but i am aware that not everybody is as lucky as me to travel with friends or staff. so having said so; stay away from outcalls escort service.

but as what rick hunter said; it is unlikely that mafias will want such attention. besides all this just for hk$6000? the mafias are not interested in such small amount of money. they are interested if the deal is multi-million dollars such as dealing in drugs!

so, having said that, i believed 100% in what “loseapenny” said. such things happen. but important is to keep your cool and think of the best solution.

keep cool and stay safe.
ag

[Sinnatic]

I am sorry to hear what happened to you. I have never called an "escort" from these magazines, but I did call girls listed as "hotel reservations" from ******.com. Lucky enough the girls I have had so far are straight to business and they are all from mainland china who would be more worry about me reporting to the police.

Hope you find better luck next time.


Hi guys,

I just want tell my recent story happened at Hong Kong which you must pre-caution if you want to find the call girls from the escort agents which advertise on 2-3 local adult magazines saying HKD500 for 3 hours outcall to all major hotels.

I was in Hong Kong last week for business last week and on the night before I leave, I feel so honry at the hotel but I don't want to go outside since the days I stay are so hot and humid; therefore, I dig out the escort agent phone number from the adult magazines which I brought then I call the number and reconfirm the charge of $500 with the mamasan who pick up my call. To make the story short, the call girl (+/- 25 yrs old, average body & look) came into my room then ask for the money up front, I think it's ok and paid $500 plus tip $100.

After the services for around 30 mins of SOG, the girl immediate go to shower and she made a phone call to her agent who ask me to pay for $6000.00 or otherwise, he warn me that I'll be in trouble as this girl he hire is from a high class night club and he has couple of guys at the hotel is waiting for her and if I refuse to pay for it, those guys will come into my room.

Frankly speaking, I'm a business man and even I'm not willing to pay to her but I really don't want to get into trouble specially during business trip, thus, I paid the money to the girl then she run away immediately.

I just want to tell that it is my true story happened last week and want to remind you all to pre-caution those escort agents at Hong Kong.

[Steve Naive]

I haven't been here in a couple of years. I remember fondly last time I was here, two nights in a yellow-sign walkup in Mongkok with a Thai girl who dug me far more than usual, and apologized for stopping briefly when she came - something that rarely happens in my experience.

I started by looking into some of the bars on Lockhart, and having a drink in San Francisco (the Philippine side) just before 8pm. Here's a case where I really shoulda RTFF instead of going in blind (read this), because my drink was expensive at HKD20, but hers was outrageous at HKD220. For the sum, plus 10% service on top, she teased me a bit - for less than 15 minutes, when it was her time to dance, only she wasn't dancing either. For that much I could have had FS in a yellow sign place in Mongkok! I asked mama about rates. HKD1400 for 1-hour ST, HKD4000 lets me take her back to my hotel. Get REAL, this isn't USA! Clearly the game here is mainly to get unsuspecting newbies to come in and get suckered into buying a lady drink. I'm starting to learn that if the joint is near empty, you should leave it that way.

Wandering around a bit, three worn/chubby Filipinas rating rating 1-3 asked me "where you going?" A bit of conversation, they are proposing all three together in my hotel. What about one of you? HKD1000. Thanks anyway. Ok, HKD800. No thanks. HKD500 is final offer. Not interested. According to the HK FL Guide the final price was good, but the ladies were sub-par, and I just had my fill of Filipinas in Makati earlier this week.

I headed back to my Mongkok hotel to take a break, then headed to a yellow-sign place on Portland between Argyle and Fife around 10:30pm. Though the sign said 250, they wanted 360. That's ok: seems 250 is for 30 minutes, 360 for 45 minutes and I like more time. Thai girl? They didn't understand at first. Eventually they did, only have Chinese. Thanks anyway, and headed down the stairs.

Meanwhile a rather pretty Chinese lady is walking up. Eye contact, smile, my finger points at her and me, she smiles and nods. The two men smile as I re-enter their place. Language is less important than smiles and creative use of hands.

Her face is at least a 7, body about the same and she's maybe 25 and PRC. The service was a bit incomplete - I thought there might be AR as a warmup, but there was not even BBBJ, and very little kissing. Then again she had an intermittent cough down deep so I thought it was just as well. She spent a minute or two studying the magic fireman, frowning as she looked at his circumcised head. Don't know what she thought, but as far as I can tell he's healthy, just not as Chinese as the ones she usually sees? That may be why I didn't get bbbj (a little CBJ, which does nothing for me).

But I require more warmup, and didn't get it, so no pop. She tried with her hand, but was a bit unskilled - hand too low, she's pulling on those strings that connect to the balls, and it aches when she shakes. I could not get her to do it right, so I cut my losses. She certainly tried; I have off nights sometimes. A younger man would have had no problem with this nice lady.

[Drjoker69]

ag,

i laughed my ass off on this one! actually, you were a bit more gentle on her than some other guys would've been. some guys probably would've dp'ed her. some guys would've paid her the extra 6000 hkd, but she would've earned it good. they figure, if you want the 6000 hkd so bad, then you can have it, but ya gotta earn it. hey, if she goes scrambling to the cops, you can always point to the extra dough you gave her willing, greedy ass.

as for the other poster's accusation of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), hey, she agreed to do it and she got paid for it, so i hardly think that this is [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). the way i see it, you're giving her a lot better treatment than what she threatened you with, so, hey, wtf. 4 blow jobs for your 4 assistants is a nice "joke", too, if you ask me. almost as good as her "joke" on you.

the white knights may whine about this one by crying "[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123)", but i think that she got her just desserts. now, if you had "hurt" her without paying the extra 6000 hkd, then i would frown upon you. but you didn't. you just played a little joke on her, so all's fun and games.

you've got my applause,
drjoker.

p.s. remeber, they're prostitutes. if the price is right, they'll do anything willingly. remember, if they do it willingly, it is not [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), nor abuse. got it?!

so, lighten up and have some fun ;0)


i told them, they should [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) her to death and than throw her into the sea. the girl plead for forgiveness saying that she is just playing a joke on me. we told her that we will forgive her and let her off if she does bj for all my “assistants” in which she actually agreed and did the job. my “assistants” escorted her out of the hotel after that. there was no big mafias or no big guys waiting to help her. ag

[Pointpanic]

Our group of three will be in Kimberly Hotel. Can't wait to try the 141 action. Have read that there are some good bars in TST area, including New Paris. Anyone have some other places in TST area?

Thanks

[Steve Naive]

I decided to try my luck at the real bars - NOT the model dancer places on Lockhart Road - in Wanchai. I'm 50+, a bit chubby, and balding, otherwise average-looking. Since I cannot rely on good looks, I use other means.

(updated) Although I found a useful list of bars, I did not have a map, because I had not read the Hong Kong Maps thread. What I needed was right here had I looked.

I've been to New Makati before, so I started there. At 11pm there were some girls there, but any that I was interested in wasn't picking up on me. One cutie who smiled when I came in chatted a bit then stopped talking to me, so I left. Hard to talk in there anyway.

Walking around Lockhart Rd, I didn't spot any clubs on my short list. On a cross street I found Dreams II and decided to give that a shot. 15 Philipine girls, about eight of them sitting around a table. After looking around, I accepted their invitation to join them. It didn't go anywhere - maybe I should have bought them a round of drinks to be more popular. The other problem is that the lady I was talking to suddenly lit a cigarette - which to me is almost as bad as discovering she's a he. I don't like licking ashtrays. When I moved to another spot on the table, I wasn't as well received. And I learned that they all smoked.

Looking around again, I noticed a lady sitting solo at the bar, who I had not really noticed before. Pretty, nice shape, about the right age. I sat down. She's intelligent, articulate. I make hints about later this evening but she does not respond. Later she asks me why do you want to be with me? I told her the things I have written above. She didn't appear to respond, but when I suggested we go somewhere else to dance, she agreed.

She knows her way around. She showed me where Neptune II is. That will be my choice for looking next time - many more girls than the first two places. We dance, I buy her a drink. Too noisy to talk. Somewhere we can talk? She lead me to another club, I bought another round.

She's cautious. Wants to know if she can trust me. I appear to be giving the right answers because she is ready to go to the hotel... but not to talk about money, just like every other Filipina I have ever been with. Near my hotel she told me her price - HKD 1500, and firm. Much more than I expected to pay, but I expected to have a good time with her.

And we had it. Wonderful GFE, she was happy to take plenty of time. There's a cushioned seat on the window overlooking HK, and I entertained her with DATY above the city lights (after inspecting and smelling her, and afterwards went to bathroom for mouthwash, which might help somewhat). More GFE in the morning.

BTW she's heading back to PI soon, so no point in asking for contact info. She is not an HK regular, she says.

In my experience, the most reliable way to get GFE is to give BFE. For some ladies, BFE means taking her shopping, for others it is respect, being nice, not moving too fast, and pleasuring her.

Yes, it cost more than I wanted to spend. OTOH if I total the amount of time we had with foreplay and lovemaking, the cost/time ratio was better than in the yellow sign place my first night, and it infinitely more satisfying. And the nice times in the bars, dancing, sleeping together, and talking, all came for free.

I saw a Chinese guy walking around HK wearing a shirt that says "I SCORED LAST NIGHT." I wonder if that shirt helps him in come way.

[Tiger 888]

Although I found a useful list of bars (see http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=481158) it does not say where they are beyond "in Wanchai," and it wasn't obvious as I walked around without a map.Steve, If you had checked out the Hongkong Maps thread you would have found all the infos you needed:
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[Steve Naive]

In his posting (http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=482060&postcount=3351) a few days ago, Sinnatic discussed drink prices.

Just to add to the information: my lady last night told me she gets a HKD40 commission at Fenwicks, on drinks that customers buy for her. Thus buying her a drink is like giving a tip.

[Ace Gallant]

ag,

i laughed my ass off on this one! actually, you were a bit more gentle on her than some other guys would've been. some guys probably would've dp'ed her. some guys would've paid her the extra 6000 hkd, but she would've earned it good. they figure, if you want the 6000 hkd so bad, then you can have it, but ya gotta earn it. hey, if she goes scrambling to the cops, you can always point to the extra dough you gave her willing, greedy ass.

as for the other poster's accusation of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), hey, she agreed to do it and she got paid for it, so i hardly think that this is [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). the way i see it, you're giving her a lot better treatment than what she threatened you with, so, hey, wtf. 4 blow jobs for your 4 assistants is a nice "joke", too, if you ask me. almost as good as her "joke" on you.

the white knights may whine about this one by crying "[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123)", but i think that she got her just desserts. now, if you had "hurt" her without paying the extra 6000 hkd, then i would frown upon you. but you didn't. you just played a little joke on her, so all's fun and games.

you've got my applause,
drjoker.

p.s. remeber, they're prostitutes. if the price is right, they'll do anything willingly. remember, if they do it willingly, it is not [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), nor abuse. got it?!

so, lighten up and have some fun ;0)

a successful lawyer (japan man on the shanghai/japan thread) once told me, if a girl have sex with a man in the man's house or his hotel room, the odd that she is going to win in court for [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) drop only 5%. unless she have prove that she had been kidnapped or forced or coax to go to the man premises and been forced to have sex; there is no way she can cry [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). in any case, she must also have prove of use of force or prov of injury in order to be able to convience that she was [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123).

the incident happens to me a couple years ago and i am already not that dumb to fall for it.

on the other hand; i am one guy who do not like to treat female badly, whether they are pros or not, female are human, and have to be respected as well. i am also awre there are some very nasty females in which any case i will not let them off easily.

well... anyways.... i let her off as i cannot assumed that she is actting upon her own will, may be she had been forced into be part of a big scam or may be she really have a sick mother who need money? whatever it is i am no part of sponsering her.

johnny; we did not [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) her, she only gave all my assistants a bj each for free, and i did paid her for her service but only at the agreed price and nothing more. the only thing that she had not planned was that she have to give 4 free bj in payment for "playing the joke" on trying to extort me for hk$5000 by crying [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123).

ag

[Jimbehr2000]

asian gambler:

when the word [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) is spoken i would suggest ending the relationship as soon as possible. give her nothing and call hotel security. no 4 free bjs, no more negotiating.

if accused of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), even by a prostitute, would a tourist be able to leave hong kong before the case is finished through the legal system? how much does it cost in legal fees to defend yourself? lawyers in hong kong are expensive. i'm glad it worked out for you and your assistants, but you took some big risks.

the only way to win that game is not to play.

[Ace Gallant]

asian gambler:

when the word [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) is spoken i would suggest ending the relationship as soon as possible. give her nothing and call hotel security. no 4 free bjs, no more negotiating.

if accused of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), even by a prostitute, would a tourist be able to leave hong kong before the case is finished through the legal system? how much does it cost in legal fees to defend yourself? lawyers in hong kong are expensive. i'm glad it worked out for you and your assistants, but you took some big risks.

the only way to win that game is not to play.

thanks for your concerns, but obviously we are confident of what we are doing at that moment to be able to threathen her back.

i cannot tell you what am i doing in hk with 4 assistants but give it some thoughts. one of the "assistant" is a lawyer.

thanks again.
ag

[Superforce99]

...{this passage from your earlier post} having said that; she than asked me what shall they do to her. i told them, they should [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) her to death and than throw her into the sea. the girl plead for forgiveness saying that she is just playing a joke on me. we told her that we will forgive her and let her off if she does bj for all my “assistants” in which she actually agreed and did the job. my “assistants” escorted her out of the hotel after that. there was no big mafias or no big guys waiting to help her.

....johnny; we did not [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) her, she only gave all my assistants a bj each for free, and i did paid her for her service but only at the agreed price and nothing more. the only thing that she had not planned was that she have to give 4 free bj in payment for "playing the joke" on trying to extort me for hk$5000 by crying [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123).

ag

well, all i'm saying is that if the girl (or you) presented the situation as you
described in a court, you and your assistants would all be 100% convicted of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123).
"free bjs" to 4 assistants under threat of bodily harm wouldn't be seen in a positive
light by a judge no matter what she did to you. just be careful and remember that
this isn't grade school where "he/she did it to me first!" doesn't work as
justification in the eyes of the law.


j

[Ace Gallant]

well, all i'm saying is that if the girl (or you) presented the situation as you
described in a court, you and your assistants would all be 100% convicted of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123).
"free bjs" to 4 assistants under threat of bodily harm wouldn't be seen in a positive
light by a judge no matter what she did to you. just be careful and remember that
this isn't grade school where "he/she did it to me first!" doesn't work as
justification in the eyes of the law.


j

whatever.... i aren't 3 years old kid in mongering.

thanks anyways.
ag

[Jimbehr2000]

One of the "Assistant" is a lawyer.

Thanks again.
AG

Perhaps your "risks" were not as great as I originally thought. For the rest of us it would not be a good idea. Glad you stood up for yourself.

[Steve Naive]

i don't pretend to be a local expert. i have been to hong kong a few times and found some fun, mainly around wan chai and mongkok. i have read the forum to learn all i know, from recent reports and reports of distinction written by the real experts in this thread. i have included links to some good reports i have found, and a bit of what i have learned on my own.

i am caucasian, 50+, and can only report from that perspective. i know two words of cantonese. the scene is different for chinese-speakers and may vary for people of other races. all of what is listed here can be done by a visitor like me going solo or with friends.

please start by reading the reports - most of what you need is already posted. take the time to do your homework and you'll save money and have a better experience. reports of distinction are a great place to start in any thread. after you have gone out and tried, please post reports on what you have learned. thanks to all who have posted reports that helped me learn.

if you are looking for a quick, cheap pop, then learn about 141s and yellow sign "brothels". if you are looking for leisurely entertainment, consider a st or lt takeout from wanchai clubs, or a more high-end experience at a night club / karaoke. you can also consider a luxury package at nearby macau (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=241), which is less expensive than you might think.

sometimes around holidays you may find fewer opportunities, perhaps resulting from police action. p4p sex is technically legal in hk, but making a living off a sex worker (brothels, mamasans, etc) are illegal, as is (i think) soliciting on the street. the laws have an interesting, if confusing, impact on the structure of offerings.

more info: dorasan's hk for you and getting there. race track summarizes hong kong mongering here. orientation and getting around

the best way to get in from the airport is the airport express train, which is faster, cheaper, and more convenient than a taxi. take it to either hong kong (central) station (on the island) or kowloon station (on the peninsula), then grab a cab to your hotel. the train costs hkd90 each way. follow signs to the train, and keep an eye out for the atms near the train. get however much cash you want plus hkd100. now go to the ticket machines that are nearby: they will not accept notes above hkd100. get a ticket and board the next train - they run every 12 minutes.

when you see names that refer to parts of town (wan chai, jordan, mongkok, etc), the reference point is the mtr station. the mtr (underground train) is fast, efficient, easy to use, and last train is about 12:30am. consider buying an octopus card, which can also be used on buses, the airport train, and major stores including all 711s and mcdonalds. taxis are relatively inexpensive and will always use the meter, but are subject to traffic, which can be bad on hk island or around tsim sha tsui in kowloon. if the taxi crosses between kowloon and hk island at night, you may have to pay a hkd20 toll.

get a map from the hotel concierge. if your hotel does not have one, go to a hotel that does and walk up confidently like you are staying there, and ask for one. i have used the concierge, gone to the toilet, etc at hotels where i was not staying just by acting like i belonged there.

more info: dorasan on getting around, weather, food, hotels, communications, nightlife. the hong kong maps thread has some useful annotated maps to help you find things. wan chai rip-off clubs (go-go bars)

on lockhart road there are a bunch of places with aggressive ladies trying to hustle you in for "just one beer". don't be a sucker: don't even go in. if she grabs your arm tightly, shake her off quickly. better yet, avoid eye contact with them and walk away from them and they may leave you alone.

the game is to get you to buy a beer (hkd25) and an expensive lady drink (hkd220) for which the lady will talk to you and tease you a bit for about 15 minutes max. fs is available - st upstairs is hkd1400, and lt in your hotel is hkd4000. you can do much better. if you're so rich that these prices don't matter, well, it might be a convenient option for you. i can't speak for the quality, as i'm not rich.

more info: wan chai rip-off clubs (go-go bars). a naive hk newbie reports his experience here.freelancers and non-pros in wan chai and causeway clubs

the good options around lockhart road are discos and bars (some with bands) where you can find freelancers, or perhaps a filipina looking for fun or a boyfriend after her day job (usually as a house maid). smile at the doormen and walk by - you don't usually have to pay an entrance fee.

reports suggest that a typical asking price is hkd1000 st and hkd1500 lt, more for the best girls, but you may be able to haggle the price down, some down to hkd500. is it too much to pay? up to you. keep in mind as you bargain that most filipinas are here earning as much money as possible to support their children and families, it is expensive for them to be here, and they are much poorer than you. if it is above your budget, try 141s and yellow sign places.

best time for these clubs is after 9pm, some get started later. friday and saturday offer best selection and quality. sunday afternoon can be a good time (it's the filipina maids' day off).

the ladies are mostly filipinas, but you may find thais and other nationalities. the experience will usually be unrushed and could be gfe if you are nice to her, treat her with respect, and shop well.

more info: thais and filipinos in wan chai wan chai discos (where the fl are) tiger 1's map of wan chai discos nutso discusses asking prices and negotiating. my experience with a filipina.karaoke and night clubs

i'm not certain, but i think that when you see a chinese sign in mongkok area that includes "ok" it is probably a locals' karaoke place. there are clubs more suitable for foreigners. in such places you can lounge with a paid companion, get some services, or get to know her before taking her out.

more info: rick hunter's report on clubs in east tsim sha tsui, dorasan's reports on night clubs and karaoke experience. yellow sign "brothels" in mongkok and jordan

in the side streets around these two mtr stops, and perhaps in other places around hk, there are many short-term hotels where you can go in and pay for a room and a girl. you walk up (or down), find one or two chinese men at a table, and tell them what you want. chinese ladies are usually available; some places may offer thai, vietnamese, filipina, and russian. lowest prices are hkd250 for 30 minutes, hkd360 for 45 minutes for room+girl. chinese girls cost a bit more than se asian girls. russian girls are generally at least hkd550.

after you figure out what to look for, you'll notice that they are just about everywhere in the side streets around mongkok mtr and in other places. the most common is a yellow sign with chinese writing and a number like 250 or 380 or whatever, which is the price. the signs are not always yellow, and they don't always have numbers, but if you're in a neighborhood that has some yellow signs, then most places with signs that are lit and lead upstairs are the same thing.

these are not brothels in the sense of a place to go and choose a girl from the "fishtank" like in bangkok, because of hk laws. instead, when you ask for a girl, you will wait in a room 5-20 minutes, and then a girl, sometimes more than one, will show up for you to choose. you can reject and try again. the girls are from a pool that may be shared by a number of places, so it does not matter much which place you go to. pay on the way out.

the rooms are spartan at best and may seem scuzzy to you, but in my experience they aren't filthy or slimy either. you'll at least get a clean towel for your shower. services include fs, cbj or bbbj, sometimes ar ("anal rimming" or licking). some girls are willing to kiss you, but you may not want to if they do ar. if in the shower she cleans you especially well back there, it's probably preparation for ar. k-pressure in particular is discussed a lot for the ar services available there.

more info: mighty spearsman's yellow sign post (from 2002; mostly still valid, but buildings around mongkok mrt exit c got replaced by langham place and hotel). some reports from guys who visited random yellow-sign places are here and here. dorasan on k-pressure and brothels tiger 1's map to k-pressure, john smart discusses k-pressure's business hours, and reports on alternatives to k-pressure with similar services here and here. 141 apartments

141, or "one for one", means one girl in one apartment who offers services. this is technically legal. in some buildings you can go from door to door and knock. if she's there and not busy, the girl will come to the door to show herself, often in underwear. she will probably put a "busy" sign on the door when she has a customer.

many advertise on the web site ******.com (chinese and english), and you can search for women by attributes - age, breast size, location, etc. reports suggest that the girl often does not look as nice as in her photo, but that it usually is the same girl.

more info: sinnatic on 141 in jordan, dorasan on one-floor-one and 141 strategy, drjoker69's report.sauna

search the hong kong general thread for "sauna" and you will find a number of reports. search for "sun hot" to see reports, a map, and get a voucher. sauna includes massage (often mediocre) followed by fs. some have actual steam rooms etc, according to the reports. i have seen a number of signs for sauna around mongkok mtr.

more info: dorasan on saunas.

massage

some massage places say "massage" and some chinese characters. sometimes extra services will be available at these places.

when you see the word "reflexology" and/or a diagram of feet with pressure points laid out, it is most likely a therapeutic massage, which may mean no extra services. the masseuse may be an older woman who will probably give you a great massage. foot massage is intense, almost painful at times but incredibly useful if your feet and legs are tired from walking. chinese body massage uses a lot of accupressure and i have found it to be an excellent way to relieve aches and restore strength.

streetwalkers

i have seen ladies (and ladyboys) on the street around wan chai in the evening, around my hotel in mongkok in later evening, and around jordan in the evening. watch for eye contact, or she may smile at you and say "hello." i had an offer from a plain chubby filipina sw for hkd500 around 9pm on a friday. there are reports that say they used to be around tsim sha tsui before a police raid some time ago. some sws will take you to a short-time hotel or their place, some may be willing to go to your room.

escorts

you may find call-girls advertising in newspapers or magazines. there is some discussion about a scam involving an escort. in general i think you are better off with the other options.

non-pros

there are many beautiful young chinese women walking around hk. most of us don't have a chance with most of them. you have a better chance with non-pro se asian women (some of whom have day jobs) who are looking for a boyfriend or fun. find them is in the wan chai pubs, or in online dating sites.

daytime/early evening options

most of the options discussed above are dusk until dawn destinations. but what about dawn until dusk?

the "night" ends at 6am for some places, and just before that might be daytime for you. some yellow sign places open at 11am. some 141s are available during the day. the wan chai rip-off clubs (go-go bars) on lockhart rd open at 4pm and you can have expensive sex there. rick hunter's and dorasan's reports on night clubs talk about "tea time" (before 5pm) as a good time to go. josemarti managed to get laid twice in the daytime, hitting a yellow signs place and a 141 apartment during a flight layover! when will someone open some 141s at the airport?

i welcome pms with comments, corrections, more info, and will update the report if required. if you reply in the forum, please don't quote the entire report.

[Ace Gallant]

Perhaps your "risks" were not as great as I originally thought. For the rest of us it would not be a good idea. Glad you stood up for yourself.

I agreed on your point, I think as a Asian looking Cantonese speaking person I do have some advantage and besides, having a Lawyer present just cuts it as he know what to expect and what are the limits.

But however, with all the legal stuff, we are not assuming that whatever the girl said is not true, she could have real Mafias "standing" behind her. So we must not assumed. Just play safe and try to stay out of trouble. As you said; if you are traveling alone, and in such situation, call the hotel security. For my case, I was travelling with associates and I reckon the fastes way to to call them as they are just next door.

For those who are not aware, HongKong although it relatively safe, there are still Mafias and Gangsters around with guns and knives. Just look at the news on TV about a shoot out in Tsim Sha Tsui on Sunday night. That guy was shooting out with a Rifle!

Enjoy but play safe!
AG

[Steve Naive]

In the Makati thread, a guy said that he went to a pharmacy there and was able to get Viagra without a prescription.

I did something similar to try Cialis, here in HK, and got it. The small pharmacy had a big sign out front for Cialis, so I waited for his customers to leave, then told him I had a prescription but did not have it with me, can I get some anyway? No, sorry, must have prescription. Thanks anyway! I left, walked up the street, headed back. He saw me going by and called me back in.

Where are you from? Where is your prescription from? You know side effects right? You use before? Ok, I sell you some, how many box you want. He sold me a 4x20mg box of Cialis for HKD340. It isn't cheap, but it was genuine Lily brand, and I don't think it is more expensive than in USA. I had it in my hand as I left, he asked me to put it into my backpack to be discreet.

I DO recommend you research this and any other drug you use prior to using it - know the side-effects before you take it. If you get an erection that will not go away after three hours, see a doctor immediately or risk losing function. Always start with a small dose to learn its effects on you.

Please don't PM me to ask which pharmacy I went to: I don't want this guy to get a flood of business that could get him in trouble. Just try this out for yourself and see how it work - and report your results.

PS I have also bought generic (off-brand) Viagra in Thailand, and seen it offered in Malaysia and Philippines. In general I find the potency to be variable - some tablets are noticeably smaller than other 100mg tablets, and don't seem as strong in effect. I have had good results at a lower price, for example Kamagra, but you own all responsibility for trying.

[Fast Eddie 48]

In the Makati thread, a guy said that he went to a pharmacy there and was able to get Viagra without a prescription.

I did something similar to try Cialis, here in HK, and got it. The small pharmacy had a big sign out front for Cialis, so I waited for his customers to leave, then told him I had a prescription but did not have it with me, can I get some anyway? No, sorry, must have prescription. Thanks anyway! I left, walked up the street, headed back. He saw me going by and called me back in.

Where are you from? Where is your prescription from? You know side effects right? You use before? Ok, I sell you some, how many box you want. He sold me a 4x20mg box of Cialis for HKD340. It isn't cheap, but it was genuine Lily brand, and I don't think it is more expensive than in USA. I had it in my hand as I left, he asked me to put it into my backpack to be discreet.

I DO recommend you research this and any other drug you use prior to using it - know the side-effects before you take it. If you get an erection that will not go away after three hours, see a doctor immediately or risk losing function. Always start with a small dose to learn its effects on you.

Please don't PM me to ask which pharmacy I went to: I don't want this guy to get a flood of business that could get him in trouble. Just try this out for yourself and see how it work - and report your results.

PS I have also bought generic (off-brand) Viagra in Thailand, and seen it offered in Malaysia and Philippines. In general I find the potency to be variable - some tablets are noticeably smaller than other 100mg tablets, and don't seem as strong in effect. I have had good results at a lower price, for example Kamagra, but you own all responsibility for trying.


to steve navie

Hong kong government is much different from main land china ,HK Government
crack down on any copy good , You need to go to shenzhen to buy generic
cialis but most is from new zealand I purchase some in zhu hai 2 year ago and
they don't work .

Best place for generic is thailand and indoneasia kamarga generic viagara you
can buy 4 pack 100 mg for $12 usd , don't buy any generic viagara from aus
or new zealand they don't work .

fast eddie 48

[Salaryman]

Hey guys out there, any recommendations to get genuine "C" in HK. "V" doesn't seem to work on me, not that I particularly need them.

SM.


to steve navie

Hong kong government is much different from main land china ,HK Government
crack down on any copy good , You need to go to shenzhen to buy generic
cialis but most is from new zealand I purchase some in zhu hai 2 year ago and
they don't work .

Best place for generic is thailand and indoneasia kamarga generic viagara you
can buy 4 pack 100 mg for $12 usd , don't buy any generic viagara from aus
or new zealand they don't work .

fast eddie 48

[Superforce99]

Well, my experience of buying real Viagra and real Cialis in HK over
the past 2 years has been less troublesome and not needing much too much
acting. I'm not sure why Steve Naive had push up his acting farther than
I would expect but I assume he must be in Central, Admiralty, or some other
prime white tourist locale. I always buy my V and C in a TST or Mongkok pharmacy
and have NEVER had a problem with prescriptions or any other non-sense.

I go in, and ask (in English) "Do you have Viagra/Cialis?" If they start
speaking Cantonese to me, I pretend I don't understand and then repeat
the question and then usually have to take a pen and write down the name.
As soon as they see the word "Viagra" or "Cialis" on a sheet of paper,
problem solved and only question is how many boxes I want to buy. I've paid
anywhere from 300 - 340 HKD for a 4-pack or genuine Cialis, and then I take
my stuff and leave.

I'm sure it's a matter of "don't ask, don't tell" so just go in and buy
the V/C like there isn't a prescription necessary and you should get the
stuff accordingly. I've bought them from large pharmacies and small alike,
and I'd love to give specific directions to a few but this is the only one
I can give directions to that make sense (but for most pharmacies in Mong
Kok, the routine above works fluently):

First go to large Moslem temple in TST then go across the street and
find the BreadTalk bakery down one of the streets a little bit. Right next
to BreadTalk is some large chain pharmacy, forgot the name. I bought C
from this place twice in the past according to routine above and never had
a problem. Also, they have excellent English speaking staff here, so you
won't even get to the paper/pen part.

Good luck, but you shouldn't need it.

J



...

I did something similar to try Cialis, here in HK, and got it. The small pharmacy had a big sign out front for Cialis, so I waited for his customers to leave, then told him I had a prescription but did not have it with me, can I get some anyway? No, sorry, must have prescription. Thanks anyway! I left, walked up the street, headed back. He saw me going by and called me back in.

Where are you from? Where is your prescription from? You know side effects right? You use before? Ok, I sell you some, how many box you want. He sold me a 4x20mg box of Cialis for HKD340. It isn't cheap, but it was genuine Lily brand, and I don't think it is more expensive than in USA. I had it in my hand as I left, he asked me to put it into my backpack to be discreet....

[OldAsiaHand]

I got ripped off on Queenway in Wanchai. The pharmacy is next door to the Citibank ATM. The package was a pretty good copy, but the pills had little or no active ingredient in them at all. I tried 2 of them and gave Johnny 1 to try for a second opinion. Unfortunately, I bought 2 packs of 4 for 300 each. Total waste of 600 HK$. I thought about going back to complain, but figured it would do no good. Maybe this post will cost the guy some business in the future if all ISG HK mongers boycott the pharmacy. Wishful thinking?

On the other hand, the pharmacy directly across the street from the Empire Hotel in Wanchai sold me real Viagra and Cialis. I bought a pack of 4 Viagra and immediately headed over to Mongkok to test the merchandise. It worked like a champ with a Thai girl. I went back and purchased some more V and some Cialis the next day.

Having said all that, I feel that the drugs I get from the USA seem to work better. Is this just psychological?


OAH

[SE Asia Joe]

Here's my 2 cents worth of info on Cialis.
I buy mine from my doctor suppossedly at cost (- and I have no reason to not think this is so.)
Basically I get them for HK$280 for each pack of 4 - 20 mg pills - but he needs to order 13 packs/order. I usually end up buying 10 or so (he keeps 3 for his own use I guess!!) and I would in turn pass some on to some of my friends - also at cost. So you guys know what the wholesale price is in Hong Kong and should be able to determine a fair price..... as well as know that you're probably going to end up with fakes if you get them too cheap
SE Asia Joe

[Fast Eddie 48]

Hey guys out there, any recommendations to get genuine "C" in HK. "V" doesn't seem to work on me, not that I particularly need them.

SM.


to salaryman

Most hong kong pharmacy need license and regulated by HK food and drug if they are caught selling fake drug they can get fined , if you purchase v from
in hong kong that don't work just return them for refund , But again even
they are real stuff it don't work for everyone all the time .

fast eddie 48

[Jazziton]

I got ripped off on Queenway in Wanchai. The pharmacy is next door to the Citibank ATM. The package was a pretty good copy, but the pills had little or no active ingredient in them at all. I tried 2 of them and gave Johnny 1 to try for a second opinion. Unfortunately, I bought 2 packs of 4 for 300 each. Total waste of 600 HK$. I thought about going back to complain, but figured it would do no good. Maybe this post will cost the guy some business in the future if all ISG HK mongers boycott the pharmacy. Wishful thinking?

On the other hand, the pharmacy directly across the street from the Empire Hotel in Wanchai sold me real Viagra and Cialis. I bought a pack of 4 Viagra and immediately headed over to Mongkok to test the merchandise. It worked like a champ with a Thai girl. I went back and purchased some more V and some Cialis the next day.

Having said all that, I feel that the drugs I get from the USA seem to work better. Is this just psychological?


OAH


Dear OAH,

Are u meaning the drugstore that is located immediate opposite Southorn Playground in Wanchai, with a blue big sign with white text on, on Hennessy Road? I can´t remember this shops exact name, but there is only one drugstore next to the Wanchai Citibank branch in Wanchai. Queensway is the shopping center in Admiralty and there is no pharmacy there except those operated by the two big chains Mannings and Watson´s who will not sell any drugs to you without prescriptions....

If it is the one on Hennesy Road, it is strange that they even sold you "fake" medicine. I once tried to buy som antibiotica from them and they asked me for prescriptions.... So now they are even selling "not so good" or even "fake" medicines to broaden their businesses....?

Let us all boycott this shop and OAH if it does happen to u again, I would have confronted the shop and threaten to call the authorities. After all, it is the seller who is commiting a bigger offence, selling drugs to you without prescriptions, than the buyer. In the other hand how big is the chances you getting someting out of it, how are u going to proof that u bought this and that drug form this pharmacy, u got any receipt from them? And if you do, they will not specify what you bought....

Jazziton

[Jazziton]

Well fella brothers. I wrote some hints and recommendations way back in 2005 how to procced to buy the blue pill in HK. Since a similar issue is now brought back to discussion on this board, I might as well provide you a almost 100% successful guide how to buy ANY medicine requiring prescriptions in HK from a majority of the pharmacies. At least it works for me.

1. Write down the name of the medicine you want to buy on a small piece of paper, preferably in block capital letters, not necessarly large, but clear and easy to read for anyone.

2. Go to the pharmacy and choose one of the "older", more experienced staff members. This is likely the pharmacist hímself or the owner of the shop and a male.

3. Present this persion with the piece of paper you have written and say: Do you have these on stock?

4. Either the pharmacist will turn you down buy saying: "you have prescription?" or more likely ask you "how many you want?"

If the first question is asked, say you forget or didn´t bring and go to next/another shop.

If the second question is asked, well, good luck and just do your shopping.

DISCRETION is they key to success. By giving them a piece of paper and not saying it out loudly what you want, it is purely up to the shops discretion whether to sell to you or not.

PHARMACY with a Px sign in front of the shop is the one who got a licence to operate as a pharmacy by the authorities and there MUST be a pharmacist there at any time. This is the only person who is allowed to handle drugs requiring prescriptions.

AVOID shops with no Px sings and the two big drugstore chain, Mannings and Watson´s, shops. Shops with no Px signs are not allowed to sell drugs requireing prescriptions (thus likely to be fake if they say they have) and the later ones will not sell to you withou prescriptions.....

As for which shop who will sell or not, I will not put their name or exact location here since it varies from time to time and who they would like to sell too..... As a general rule, shops located in areas, with a lot´s of "people flow" and fierce competition, are more likely to be not so strict about the "require prescription" rule. These shops are mainly located in Wanchai, Causeway Bay, North Point and partly Quarry Bay on Hong Kong Island. In Kowloon, TST (Tsim Sha Tsui) and surrounding areas like Yau Ma Tei and Jordan, Mong Kok and Prince Edward and even as far as Kwun Tong shouldn´t cause you any problem.

Well, good luck all folks and hope this info will help one or another brother.

Best Regards, Jazziton

[Finrod]

In between BKK and Manila, I stopped over here for one night and stayed in a hotel on Nathan near Jordan. Seems the girls have returned to the East TST Square on Mody Road; I got approached there around 9:30pm while I was on my way to Sticky Fingers. I didn't stay around to talk price with them so I can't tell you about that. There were a few girls at Sticky Fingers, but not much action so I ended up deciding to go to Wan Chai. Started at Fenwicks and never really left. The lady's drinks add up. Have to agree with others here that 1000HKD is standard for ST here. Also had a couple of girls offering me doubles with their friends for 1000HKD each. Ended up not partaking, just doing no more than light making out as my BKK activities had worn me out so took taxi back to hotel around 2am sans girl.

[Salaryman]

Thanks guys for sharing this info. Apart from the known side effects, does anyone have special experience when using vitamin "C" or "V"?

SM.


Well fella brothers. I wrote some hints and recommendations way back in 2005 how to procced to buy the blue pill in HK. Since a similar issue is now brought back to discussion on this board, I might as well provide you a almost 100% successful guide how to buy ANY medicine requiring prescriptions in HK from a majority of the pharmacies. At least it works for me.

1. Write down the name of the medicine you want to buy on a small piece of paper, preferably in block capital letters, not necessarly large, but clear and easy to read for anyone.

2. Go to the pharmacy and choose one of the "older", more experienced staff members. This is likely the pharmacist hímself or the owner of the shop and a male.

3. Present this persion with the piece of paper you have written and say: Do you have these on stock?

4. Either the pharmacist will turn you down buy saying: "you have prescription?" or more likely ask you "how many you want?"

If the first question is asked, say you forget or didn´t bring and go to next/another shop.

If the second question is asked, well, good luck and just do your shopping.

DISCRETION is they key to success. By giving them a piece of paper and not saying it out loudly what you want, it is purely up to the shops discretion whether to sell to you or not.

PHARMACY with a Px sign in front of the shop is the one who got a licence to operate as a pharmacy by the authorities and there MUST be a pharmacist there at any time. This is the only person who is allowed to handle drugs requiring prescriptions.

AVOID shops with no Px sings and the two big drugstore chain, Mannings and Watson´s, shops. Shops with no Px signs are not allowed to sell drugs requireing prescriptions (thus likely to be fake if they say they have) and the later ones will not sell to you withou prescriptions.....

As for which shop who will sell or not, I will not put their name or exact location here since it varies from time to time and who they would like to sell too..... As a general rule, shops located in areas, with a lot´s of "people flow" and fierce competition, are more likely to be not so strict about the "require prescription" rule. These shops are mainly located in Wanchai, Causeway Bay, North Point and partly Quarry Bay on Hong Kong Island. In Kowloon, TST (Tsim Sha Tsui) and surrounding areas like Yau Ma Tei and Jordan, Mong Kok and Prince Edward and even as far as Kwun Tong shouldn´t cause you any problem.

Well, good luck all folks and hope this info will help one or another brother.

Best Regards, Jazziton

[Amazing Hkg]

Just had a spot of "lunch" at http://******.com/eng/view_id-6247.html

The girl that opened the door wasn't as advertised - she goes by the name of Leslie, and hails from Szechuan province.

Nothing special and felt quite loose down under. Also felt pretty rushed as the door bell and phone kept ringing. This was at midday!

Either she was really great, or people were looking for the one posted on the web site. leslie actually told me she was standing in for the regular one and she had traveled from Tsuen Wan this morning. She did have amazingly droopy boobs though which provided for a nice tit wank with baby oil, but part from that, just okay - lah. Damage was $300, so can't complain ;)

One to avoid I feel. I chose this one as to going across the harbour for a K Pressure. My mistake - doh!

Ended up down in Jo Jo Indian Restaurant for a proper lunch buffet!

Happy Hunting!

Cheers

[Book Author]

If you want to do some Thai and Filipino field research here in Hong Kong, go to the Neptune bar on Jaffe street, between O'Brien and Luard on Saturday night; likely Friday and Sunday nights are also good. Get off the Wan Chai subway exit, exit Lockhart Road. Jaffe is the next street north (away from the subway. Note, at the door, they have posted $500-$1000 membership, ignore this, smile, be friendly with the door men, their good guys, just walk in. Remember, the women here are friendly, nice and very professional.

If you have not talked to professional women, here is a rule to live by, treat them like ladies, and they will treat you friendly and nice. Beer is about $25, but "lady drinks" are about $70. A lady drink is when you buy a woman a drink, the bar has special drinks for them, and the woman you buy the drink for, gets a cut of the price. I advise you to talk to a few women before you buy one a drink, if you buy one a drink.

Their story:
Many are in Hong Kong for a few weeks, not site seeing, here to make money, no need to mention money for sex, this is implied.

Don't go into the "girlie bars," the bars with bright neon lights and woman out front ask you to come in. There is enough women everywhere else. The walk from Lockhart, up O'Brien over to Luard should convince of this.

For more Filipino research, Laguna, corner Jaffe and Fenwick, upstairs (it's safe, no worries). This is a dance club, nice pop and rock music. Professional and domestic helpers (DH).

Dusk to Dawn, Jaffe between Luard and Fenwich has a live Filipino rock band. The women are friendly here, likely both Professional and DH.

General rule: Professionals will come up and talk to you, DH not likely.

That should be enough to get you started and keep you safe. How do I know all this? I work in Wan Chai, and last Saturday night, I went with my wife and a few of her friends to Wan Chai to have a drink and a walk around. It was interesting, very different on Saturday night from the day time work hours.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.

[BJK]

Finrod,
You did well to go home without the girl if they won't budge below $1000
Maybe that is the rate for someone whom they know is a short time tourist.
I don't live in HK anymore but usually convince the girls I know the rate is lower than that and get it. I'll pay $1000 LT but not ST. I think these days there are many fewer maids or other filapina's with legit visas doing part time work. They are just $400-$500 or "free" so less competition.
When you can pay $300-$500 in Mongkok or 141 $1000 is way too much.

The advantage of a pick up in Wan Chai is the girl is possibly more GFE and is lower volume. You will likely buy a few drinks so add say $200 to your costs. For this you want to get a GFE that will stay a few hours. If you get a girl and pay for 3 drinks (say one for a girl you don't go with and two for the one you do) say $200 then $1000 for ST. If the girl is just out to get you off as quickly as possible you are better off at 141

It is very possible to negotiate a couple of hours for $800 or less.


I ended up deciding to go to Wan Chai. Started at Fenwicks and never really left. The lady's drinks add up. Have to agree with others here that 1000HKD is standard for ST here. Also had a couple of girls offering me doubles with their friends for 1000HKD each. Ended up not partaking, just doing no more than light making out as my BKK activities had worn me out so took taxi back to hotel around 2am sans girl.

[Ruf66]

All this talk about the "V" . get away from the tourist places go over to TST and any chemist u go into and you can just ask. Easy as pie!

HK is th easiest place in the world for it all. Come on guys - just live it.

Been in HK years, as a vistor and as óne who lived there for a year. Easy to find babes, the "V" and all you want............


Man so easy......

[Derjosh]

Hi All,

My next trip to Hong Kong will come soon and I checked some nice 141 girls. I know what Hotel Reservation means, but what is "Phone Appointment" ? Is here any difference?

BTW: Thanks for all the great information … I will post something when I found some action during my stay in Hong Kong :-)

Keep hunting & take care

Josh

[Dorasan]

getting around: buy an octopus card at any mtr or train station, from customer service counter. they all speak english. deposit $50. you can get it back when you finished with the card. even if you drive, most parking lots will accept the card as payment. refill is easy. apart from most 7/11 type stores (they don't speak english, mostly new immigrants), there are complicated looking machines in all the mtr stations. don't be fooled by them. just insert the card, then insert paper money. when you are done with the money, press the most visible button to get back your card.

++ you get the deposit, the unused stored value, minus a few dollars (<$10?) at the spot if the total is less than a few hundred. just don't buy the card at convenient stores - they are sold as collectables for >$100 just for the card.

essential information: google.com.hk is now rather good. international traffic had been improved so you can browse hk sites outside hk with reasonable speed. you can search for sites like maps and travel information. now every bus stop has a picture on the web. so if you are prepared you can travel like a local.

essential websites: ******.com is still the top site with the most girls. you can find the high end girls there. a few other sites were busted. 161sex.com has the advantage that all the services that a girl provides are listed and searchable, like oral explosion (cim), and poison dragon drill (rimming). the girls are mostly in the $300 range for standard service. man169.com is something different. it lists saunas, night clubs, accupressure and bars. a few establishment has rather update listing of girls, in ****** style. the site is slower and rather irritating, but there are useful information. i visited some night clubs currently on the list last time.

shopping: i was surprised that many shops do not open before noon on weekdays. it sort of make sense as rarely anyone go to buy fashion in the morning when they have to work. so there are three shifts: morning for white collars and blue collars. afternoon for service industry - eg shopping malls. night life starts after dinner. now that the economy was up from the bottom, the mall rent are sky high and they are very picky of talents. it's rather difficult to buy accessaries such as battery charger in even neighborhood malls, which is comparable to strip malls in us. you can easily find cell phones costing over $1000, but for cordless dect phone around $200, they just can't survive wasting valuable shop space to stock them.

same for the girls. very few 141 girls open before noon. selection in clubs is a lot more at night shift.

communications: ebay.hk! i brought a used one for $200, gsm trimode which is usable in us too. small enough. but just don't let anybody else see it. if they see it, tell them that you are a tourist, or you lost cell phones all the time hanging out so you have lots of old phones at your disposal. if you know where to get find it, eg sham shui po, there are lots of used phones. the strange thing about ebay.hk is that many 'local' sellers are not local. they set the shipping and handling charge as the minimum price of the goods, and the same charge worldwide, even for hk. real local sellers do not set shipping. you meet them at mtr stations, test the goods and pay cash.

k pressure at jordan: still going strong. but i have a different impression this time. i went there once last time and i guessed i was a little lucky. the price is still $390? downstairs. the hotel upstairs is now $98 for 45 minutes. .... the girl looked ok in a dress. she kept dipping her head down, pretending to be young and shy. she was hiding her age. i lifted her face, the excuse was to kiss her cheek. i checked her breasts and nipples too, in a subtle polite sort of way. go figure. she is about mid-twenties. expected at this sort of places. last time lily looked great, tall with broad shoulders, looked like an ex model - ex means late 20's.

the bathroom i got is still big, more than enough for the blow up raft. but last time the bathroom can fit in a few end to end. the bathroom has glass doors, but last time, not just the doors are glass, but there's a whole wall of glass beside the doors. i got a fake leather rectangular double bed this time. the room is just big enough for it. last time, the bed is rounded, right in the middle of a huge room, at least queen size or even king.

i think she liked me. she started a mild 'ice and fire' blow job in the shower. she held warm and cold tap water in her mouth when she blew me. it's not as 'ice and fire' as ice and hot drinking water, but it showed that she wanted to please. the same thing, she licked me, rimmed me, and blew me. she kept blowing me as lily so i let go. damm, oral explosion (cim) wasn't included. she said 'oh' in a sorry sort of way and watched me exploded. lily let me cum in her mouth for tips but i thought that was included.

she suggested me to wash, and then kept blowing me bare. it was very comfortable and i got hard after some hard work on her part. when i was hard and pointed to her pussy, the phone ranged. it was 45 minutes. she asked me if i wanted to add time. i thought of that already if the price is right. but i thought i would have put in two shots by the 1st 45 minutes. now i have no choice. i was deflated when the phone rang! but i don't like the feeling of leaving empty handed. it was a sunday early afternoon. that's why i went there in the first place. there's not much better alternatives. luckily, it was $100 or $200 for extra half hour. i couldn't remember which is correct. i was expecting the worst - another $390 for an hour plus another $98 for the hotel. in that case certainly i would leave. but they have half hour to add. no more for the hotel. either it's half of $390, which is $200, not bad. but i remembered that the extra time had to be having discounts, so it may even be $100. but really if i managed two shots when one shot is included, i would have tip her $100 at least.

she sucked me from limpy to hard again. then i doggy her, when she kept cheering me on like moaning. soon after i finished the phone rang again. if i didn't add time then it's time to clean up. i thing you get 45 min for the hour and 20 min for half hour. but you clean up after time's up.

the manasan insisted me to go back to the karaoke room for the exit poll. she was worried that the girl tricked me into adding time. i couldn't blame this girl as last time lily was too good to me. it wasn't bad this time as my dick was in her mouth most of the time, otherwise my ass was. the mamasan was relieved that i put in two shots. if i managed one shot only, then the girl must had tricked me to earn extra time. she made sure that i got my rimming done. and told me that if i add time, i could have body to body massage on the floating raft for the full 20 min. i just told her that i was fully happy, so i could leave earlier. with 161 site, i think i could get everything done for less. the importing thing is that you have pictures to see first and you can just turn around and leave.

[Traveler1234]

Getting around: Buy an Octopus card at any MTR or train station, from customer service counter. They all speak English. Deposit $50. You can get it back when you finished with the card. Even if you drive, most parking lots will accept the card as payment. Refill is easy. Apart from most 7/11 type stores (they don't speak English, mostly new immigrants), there are complicated looking machines in all the MTR stations. Don't be fooled by them. Just insert the card, then insert paper money. When you are done with the money, press the most visible button to get back your card ....

Minor corrections on above.

First time purchase (cash only) is minimum of HK$150 of which $50 is considered deposit. You can recharge but again only in cash (unless you set up bank account transfer).

If you return card within 3 months, there is a penalty (I forgot exact amount). But since card is good 'forever', no reason to return card, just keep for future use.

Card good at 7/11, many of the branded supermarkets (Wellcome), McDonalds, for parking lots, etc.,etc. And recently can now be used in some taxi. Think of it as a 'debit card' for local use.

Log on for more information:
http://www.octopuscards.com/consumer/en/index.jsp

[Sinnatic]

Hi All,

My next trip to Hong Kong will come soon and I checked some nice 141 girls. I know what Hotel Reservation means, but what is "Phone Appointment" ? Is here any difference?Phone Appointment means you need to call the girl to make a reservation and she has a place that you don't need to book a hotel.

[Pointpanic]

Hi All,

My next trip to Hong Kong will come soon and I checked some nice 141 girls. I know what Hotel Reservation means, but what is "Phone Appointment" ? Is here any difference?

BTW: Thanks for all the great information … I will post something when I found some action during my stay in Hong Kong :-)

Keep hunting & take care

JoshWe stayed at Kimberley Hotel, 26 Kimberley Road in TST. Champagne Court B is at 12 Kimberley Road, about one block townard Nathan from hotel. The third floor had about ten girls. They have their 141 pictures on door. There were three of us and all of us had a pleasant experience. I was surprised that my girl, Yu Bing, who advertises a 36D, had a 36D. So I guess the 141 ads are fairly accurate. And the prices quoted are accurate.

[Mighty Spearsman]

We stayed at Kimberley Hotel, 26 Kimberley Road in TST. Champagne Court B is at 12 Kimberley Road, about one block townard Nathan from hotel. The third floor had about ten girls. They have their 141 pictures on door. There were three of us and all of us had a pleasant experience. I was surprised that my girl, Yu Bing, who advertises a 36D, had a 36D. So I guess the 141 ads are fairly accurate. And the prices quoted are accurate.
In my recent experience, the 141 ads have been extremely accurate, both photos and details. That's one of the good things about that system.


...161sex.com has the advantage that all the services that a girl provides are listed and searchable, like oral explosion (CIM), and poison dragon drill (rimming).
Thanks to Dorasan for the best line of the week - poison dragon drill!

[Salaryman]

My fellow mongers,

Was in HK last weekend and since I have read so much about K-pressure, decided to pay a visit. Thanks to the map, there was no problem to find this place. Went in late afternoon on Saturday and was led to a small waiting room by the mamasan. The first girl's name was Gigi and was average (may be a 6 by my standard); tits not too big. I thought may be I should see what's available first before I decided on which girl to choose so I asked the mamasan to bring in another girl. The second girl was not as pretty as the first one but has big tits and according to the mamasan, has special skill. Well, I thought I didn't need that so I eventaully settled for the first girl. Off we went upstairs to the hotel and the usual routine as described by other mongers. Satisfied with what I got, I left a happy man but before I left, the mamasan asked how's everything and I told her I was pleased. This is good service and I definitely would return next time.

On the way out, I saw this pharmacy on the ground floor (next to the entrance of K-pressure) so I went in and asked for some Cialis tablets. To my surprise, no questions asked and no prescription required. I think I paid HK$340 for 4 tablets which were not cheap (I guess these are real stuff and will let you know the effect after I have a chance to try them not that I need them to perform). After the shopkeeper handed me the vitamin "see", he told me to be careful not to take alcohol before using them to which I acknowledged with thanks. After all, not a bad experience in HK. Would visit a Karaoke in the evening with a friend so would report my experience in my next contribution.

SM

[Traveler1234]

In my recent experience, the 141 ads have been extremely accurate, both photos and details. That's one of the good things about that system.


Thanks to Dorasan for the best line of the week - poison dragon drill!

Maybe one day we can pay with our octopus card :D

[Fast Eddie 48]

In my recent experience, the 141 ads have been extremely accurate, both photos and details. That's one of the good things about that system.


Thanks to Dorasan for the best line of the week - poison dragon drill!


to mighty spearman

This is good web site for info on ktv and sauna in Hong Kong and Shenzhen
Updated every week .

www.sexhotmail.com

FAST EDDIE 48

[Amazing Hkg]

to mighty spearman

This is good web site for info on ktv and sauna in Hong Kong and Shenzhen
Updated every week .

www.sexhotmail.com

FAST EDDIE 48-------------------------------

Thanks for the link, but it seems to be in French and needs an email/password. Is this correct?

Thanks,

[elle_klam]

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Thanks for the link, but it seems to be in French and needs an email/password. Is this correct?

Thanks,Think the website is http://www.sexhotmail.net/

But it's all in chinese

[Gweilo]

Sometimes on these boards you here someone refer to all the go-go bars on Wan Chai road that have mamasans trying to drag tourists inside with the promise of free beer. While I tend to think these places should be avoided (as there are better and cheaper alternatives) no one has really posted what they are all about. Today when reading one of my favorite HK blogs (Hongkie Town - about a guy who plays in Wan Chai a lot) there were two posts summarizing Wan Chai that I thought would be useful to share. Here is the first about the girlie bars in Wan Chai (the next will be about the freelancer places).

Rick, thanks for posting these on the forum here. Now that I've stopped blogging about some of my more personal activities and moved the old stuff to a "hidden" location, it's nice to know that these will still be online and hopefully helpful for those in need. (Senior members can PM me for the URL of the new location.)

I don't visit this forum as often as I probably should but folks here can PM me if any questions and always happy to hook up with any Senior Members in town.


Gweilo aka Spike

[Gweilo]

Daytime/Early Evening options

Most of the options discussed above are Dusk until Dawn destinations. But what about Dawn until Dusk?

The "night" ends at 6AM for some places, and just before that might be daytime for you. Some Yellow Sign places open at 11AM. Some 141s are available during the day. The Wan Chai Rip-off Clubs (Go-go Bars) on Lockhart Rd open at 4pm and you can have expensive sex there. Rick Hunter's and Dorasan's reports on Night Clubs talk about "tea time" (before 5pm) as a good time to go. JoseMarti managed to get laid twice in the daytime, hitting a Yellow Signs place and a 141 apartment during a flight layover! When will someone open some 141s at the airport?



The Bridge bar on Lockhart Road is busy 7 days a week from around 7 AM till noon. It's a combination of pros who haven't gone to sleep yet and maids on their day off starting early.

Sundays, Laguna starts filling up around 3 PM and is packed tight with horny Indonesian maids by 5 PM. Move fast as most of them will have to be back home by 8 PM. Saturdays similar but not quite as packed. New Makati also a good alternative, though it doesn't get busy till after 7 PM, which is still much earlier than Neptune or Fenwick.

Afternoons, you can try popping your head into Old China Hand, Bridge, New Makati, Laguna, there may be some "early starters" out there.

[Or1328]

Can anyone recommend a respectable place to meet Russian pros in HK? Places like Fenwick etc. I know, but are there any saunas or 141-type set-ups where you can find in-house service (as in, no need to find a hotel or take them home)? Many thanks.

[PhilKrenshaw]

I'll be visiting Hong Kong soon and have been reading up on this site. I'd like to thank everyone for posting. Especially usefull to me were Dorasan's detailed reports, Steve Naive's summary/link collection and Drjoker69's 141 instructions. I have one question--given the 141 girls probably don't speak english, what does someone who doesn't speak chinese say when she answers the door? Just smile?

[Amazing Hkg]

I'll be visiting Hong Kong soon and have been reading up on this site. I'd like to thank everyone for posting. Especially usefull to me were Dorasan's detailed reports, Steve Naive's summary/link collection and Drjoker69's 141 instructions. I have one question--given the 141 girls probably don't speak english, what does someone who doesn't speak chinese say when she answers the door? Just smile?-----------------------------------------------------
The best is to smile and say Hi, or in Cantonese "Lay Ho Ma?" which is basically means How are you? That should break the ice and some of these girls do speak limited English.

Thanks and enjoy!

[Stargm]

I'll be visiting Hong Kong soon and have been reading up on this site. I'd like to thank everyone for posting. Especially usefull to me were Dorasan's detailed reports, Steve Naive's summary/link collection and Drjoker69's 141 instructions. I have one question--given the 141 girls probably don't speak english, what does someone who doesn't speak chinese say when she answers the door? Just smile?Trust me these ladies know what to do! You can just speak in English. Actually if you check www.161sex.com/english.php. You can check who speaks english.

It will not be a problem.

[Traveler1234]

I'll be visiting Hong Kong soon and have been reading up on this site. I'd like to thank everyone for posting. Especially usefull to me were Dorasan's detailed reports, Steve Naive's summary/link collection and Drjoker69's 141 instructions. I have one question--given the 141 girls probably don't speak english, what does someone who doesn't speak chinese say when she answers the door? Just smile?


:) always works, wherever you go!

[JoseMarti]

How is the success rate at The Bridge bar? I am a total sucker for Filipina domestic help (DH). Given that I am only there for a layover, where can I take the DH for some action?


The Bridge bar on Lockhart Road is busy 7 days a week from around 7 AM till noon. It's a combination of pros who haven't gone to sleep yet and maids on their day off starting early.

Sundays, Laguna starts filling up around 3 PM and is packed tight with horny Indonesian maids by 5 PM. Move fast as most of them will have to be back home by 8 PM. Saturdays similar but not quite as packed. New Makati also a good alternative, though it doesn't get busy till after 7 PM, which is still much earlier than Neptune or Fenwick.

Afternoons, you can try popping your head into Old China Hand, Bridge, New Makati, Laguna, there may be some "early starters" out there.

[Derek69]

Hi everybody,

I am staying in the Grand Hyatt on weekends! As I am travelling alone: Anyboy interested in going out to night and check for some ladies?

Cheers

Derek

[Gweilo]

How is the success rate at The Bridge bar? I am a total sucker for Filipina domestic help (DH). Given that I am only there for a layover, where can I take the DH for some action?

At the Bridge it's a mix of DH and pros and obviously your odds of success will be greater with the pros - especially since you are not a resident and just looking for a fast one - but some DH's will be possible as well, your mileage may vary.

Walk out of the Bridge, make a left, and walk most of the way down the block looking for a small sign that says Ming Court Hotel. Rooms are about HK$130 (about US$17) for two hours and include shower, air con and a TV showing non stop porn - condoms and beer available for a small extra charge.

[Superfly77]

Hey everyone,

I have found a new website for 141 type girls. It is love181.com. It looks like they are just adding english support. It is all screwy right now, but hopefully will work soon.

Thanks,

Super

[OldAsiaHand]

I see some Russian girls on 141 and the other websites occasionally, but it is usually on a hotel reservation basis for 1,200 HK$. I have never tried any though. You may find some in the Mongkok brothels. I've done a couple for 650 HK$ ST, but the service was pretty mechanical. The quality range is around 5-6, and most are big girls. IMHO, the Thai girls provide the best service in Mongkok.

OAH



Can anyone recommend a respectable place to meet Russian pros in HK? Places like Fenwick etc. I know, but are there any saunas or 141-type set-ups where you can find in-house service (as in, no need to find a hotel or take them home)? Many thanks.

[Mc Fly XXX]

Can anyone recommend a respectable place to meet Russian pros in HK? Places like Fenwick etc. I know, but are there any saunas or 141-type set-ups where you can find in-house service (as in, no need to find a hotel or take them home)? Many thanks.For Russians w/ in-house service I cannot recommend ánything else but Mongkok. Why not go to Macau and have a russian from one of the Saunas like Darlings or 18 Sauna? Check the sauna reviews in the Macau section. There should be some field reports.

[Dorasan]

The high end are Hotel Reservation girls, the most expensive ones being local girls <21. Most of these girls are in TST hotels, and a few in Causeway Bay. Some say TST but uses San Diego in Jordan (bordering TST).

The most expensive ones are those without pictures, no specific girl and no specific charge. You call the booker and she asks what you prefer, student, OL (office lady), model, etc. For example, a 19 year old University student cost $1800. I don't know about the university bit, because at 19, for one of the local system, at most she could have been accepted by a university after high school. This is not bad as any local girl at hotels will start at $1200, which may come with a tattoo or two.

Why are local girls so expensive, when you can have PRC girls for half price? Remember that the sex industry target locals, not tourist. Tourist will go to cheaper places for bargains or for greater selections. Even local singles will cross over to PRC or Macau on weekends. Firstly, PRC girls speak a different language. Local guys that have money, the 30's and 40's + is not likely to know how to speak Mandarin. Even if they know how to, they may like to speak their own language. Secondly, the local girls are built differently. They are on high protein, low carb diet since they can chew. They are not needed for any hard work, not even cooking. Then you screen only the thin attractive ones and that's what you get on 141. If you like small spinner type, they are the best, thin, delicate, small but well portioned like a shrink European model. In theory, their pussy mileage, face and body are reflected on their prices. Thirdly, the cultural thing. When they are naked, the PRC girls aren't much different. But their dress sense, conversation, are a bit off for the locals. Fourthly, local girls are always there when you want to visit them again. PRC girls, the best ones, are likely to be there for a very short time.

For the starting $1200+ girls, they look innocent, jail bait, delicate, but they may come with a tattoo or two, even if they are still students. They are comparable to the better looking girls in the few night clubs with local girls. Many girls belong to some organized 'clubs'. Without someone behind them, they just can't handle the potential troubles. The tattoo are small and are usually tastefully done. But if you want to make sure that you get the higher end ones, you could ask for one with no tats; I just thought of this. Maybe a woman answering the phone is a good thing. They don't sound like mama's but the guys all sound like daddies.

There's not much special service. Everything covered, no kiss no DATY. They may suck your nipples and if they like you, they may suck harder, lick some more, and kiss your cheeks. I have seen similar calibrate night clubs girls who don't even blow. The damage in these night clubs are $500 to the girl for one shot, roughly $500 to $1000 if you keep your stay in the club short and you buy only 1 hour of her time out of the club. So 141 price is not bad compared to night clubs. And for the high end night clubs, $1500 to the girl and $1500 to the club at tea time, more expensive at night.

Even though they are expensive, if they think that you are loaded, they will lure you to add hours. In this case, night clubs may be worthwhile. If the girls pockets $500, then it's usually $300 for the 2nd shot. In this class, the club usually ask for say $300 per hour outside. 141 girls usually charges the same $1200 for another hour. I doubt if it's carved in stone, but at busy times, there's no reason for them to offer discounts. They will treat you a lot nicer if you add hours, or see them again. Some just never kisses. Some kiss as extra service when you add hours, or see them again.

I got a strange offer. I ask if she kisses if I call her again. She said either kiss or 'cannon'. I thought I hear wrongly. That couldn't be. I have to pick either kiss or make love, exclusive or. I thought 'kiss' is a special code to her meaning something like oral explosion. But I was wrong. She even said it (no intercourse) will make it more memorable. Probably. I will remember how I regret it if I go through with it. For that money I can have 2 model like PRC girls or 3 high quality PRC girls.

[Traveler1234]

At the Bridge it's a mix of DH and pros and obviously your odds of success will be greater with the pros - especially since you are not a resident and just looking for a fast one - but some DH's will be possible as well, your mileage may vary.


I was in HK for one week in mid June, at Park Lane Hotel - which is next to Victoria Park in Causeway Bay. In fact stopped in HK twice, both stays happen to include a Sunday. Victoria Park and the streets behind the hotel (near MRT station) is full of filipina and indonesia DH on Sunday.

I caught the eye(s) of a few and sure could have gotten some action...but I was with my son so not 'convenient'. I read about AR's experience with DH that he met on MRT escalators....maybe next trip?

Anyone with any experience in this neighborhood on Sundays?

[BJK]

Anyone with any experience in this neighborhood on Sundays?

There are plenty there that are open to chatting. If you expect instant action you might be disappointed. It should be pretty easy to find one to hook up for dinner, you can go from there with a high success rate, most will need a second date. Time is also a problem as many have to be back home at 8:30pm
They can be a little sticky as they want more of a relationship. I found a few but not worth the trouble, easier to just go to the bars on Sunday afternoon. You will find more open to going back to your hotel without the dating.

BJK

[Dorasan]

Last week or so, a guy was gunned down in the TST streets. The police responded by searching all the brothels, marjong gambling houses, karaoke nightclubs in TST, Jordan, Mongkok, indeed everywhere. They rounded up a few guys and a lot of illegal PRC girls with the excuse. The message is, thou should not use a gun, and if you do, don't do it in TST. HK is pretty save compared to say NYC or LA.

I had been lucky so far. All my night club, 141, stable (brothel) experiences are happy. I tried a $300 level 141 at Prince Edward to see if I'm paying too much for the other girls. She hang up a busy sign at the door. I was using my computer at the stairs and tried to find and call somebody else. Then a fat guy stood outside of her door to make sure that he would be next. Those rooms are 1/4 of a normal flat with narrow passage. He blocked the whole neighborhood. So call in advance and find a building with plenty of girls are good strategies.

Of course there wasn't air conditioning in the dirty stairs where nobody uses. I couldn't find anybody else and I was wet through with sweats. I don't understanding how the fat guy can stood in the passage that was barely enough for him to pass through. The ones that I selected and copied in my computer cannot be reached at the time. But I had to go.

I remembered that at the 2nd floor there was an acupressure joint. I think they are called stables in general. An old guy was at the reception and a young guy lead me to their 'presidential suite'. Windows are painted poorly, frames are rusty, but it was fairly large, and the bathroom was fairly large too. There were bedsheets, clean I think, but not of the brilliant white type. It's better than the 141 girls putting a towel on top of the bedsheets. Best of all, there's a bed length mirror, that you can hardly find in other places. This is a place build for love! Though a bit of a dump.

The price is listed at the door for $350. The young guy asked what I wanted. He said there's no local young girls at the time, ie early, but he got PRC young girls. It was a present surprise. Her face is her best features, sweet and fairly pretty, looked about 18 because of her small size. She looked a bit rough, perhaps because she just returned from a trip to PRC. Her breast is what I liked most, not big and not too small, pink responsive nipples. Most surprisingly, she is almost as tight as the >$1000 local girls I used.

She sucked my nipples, and then gripped my penis and blow it bare without hesitation. Most younger 141 girls use covers. When I was fucking her, she was like holding her breath to resist. She knew I was looking in the mirror, so she closed her eyes, otherwise she would feel awkward eye to eye. She didn't try to fake moaning or enjoying it, that was great. She was just trying to take the punishment. The expression on her face when I was pounding her in the doggy position wasn't priceless, but got me very high. With her tight pussy, I lasted longer than I expected, but the guys complained that I was too fast when I came out. They asked me if she was good and everything was OK. I told them I had a good time and gave them $400. Before that I got her number.

It was a good and friendly experience, just as everywhere else I've been. Then I went for the legendary 'three streets'. If you ask, people will tell you where the 'third street' is, to make a fool out of you. The 3 streets are Reclamation street, Shanghai, Portland ( I needed to check but these cannot be too wrong). The cross street / junction is Soy. Basically the area is the opposite side of Nathan Rd where the Women street is.

I heard that there are all sorts of girls standing on the streets. But they aren't streetwalkers as compared to other places in the world. The girls I saw are better looking than 141 girls and the price isn't cheap, at $350 about standard. The illegal PRC girls are afraid of being taken away by the police. The place is the prime target for any cleaning up actions. At some point the illegals came out at 3am and leave at 7am to avoid being busted.

I went there about late dinner time, after 8pm. I heard that often all girls aren't worth picking up. But all the 4 or 5 girls I saw at the time are all rather good looking for $350. Decent makeups. You can tell who's just reported for duty by looking at their fresh or not fresh makeup. I didn't know who to pick. The 20's had very sexy bodies. The 18's are so cute. Then I did a U turn for a 2nd pass to see their toes. The all seemed to pass - they all show their toes and there wasn't any yucky nail vanish. I almost picked the tall cute one up, when her pullman (I mean the one who pull and lead the horse) blamed her for just standing there like a stick, not soliciting the potential patrons. Another pullman came up to me, tried to sell his horse very politely and courteously. I politely turned down with a smile.

With the bottom line established, I called up the ads on the newspaper that I dropped down earlier. The only number that could be connected was answered by a woman, who offered me $500 for 3 hours with an 18 year old local student. But I had to get the room. I didn't believe all of it, but she promised there would be no problem if I wasn't satisfied. I said 3 hours are too much for me, and she offered $400, but still 3 hours.

I went to the only hourly hotel I knew, Park Street?, at the seaside either at Soy or the next street. It was approved by the high end girls and it wasn't expensive, at 155 for two hours and 80 the third after discounts. Different at weekends and at daytime. They said they don't rent the room to singles but they do. But indeed many are ordinary couples, especially younger couples who do it behind their parent's back. You know when you had to wait at the lobby at busy times, like after dinner time.

I booked two hours with options for the third. The girl was late for half an hour. She was far off from what the booker promised. She wasn't old, bad or ugly, but any of the girls on the 3 streets that caught my eyes are better than her. I told her that I rejected her, only to find out that it was like an American style rip-off operation. She called her papa to threaten me to pay up - $400, no matter if I do it or not. If I were in the Mongkok area typical small love hotels I will pay up. If I'm in San Diego hotel in Jordan I certainly wouldn't. Park Street is somewhere in between. I politely hang up after a few minutes talking with her papa. Then I dressed back up - I was too silly to take a shower myself and even washed my hair. I was naked when I opened the door. I did managed to put all my clothes on when the girl threatened me constantly to prevent me from going away. Then I even managed to put my watch on (price tag $500 US). I took my bag with my computer in it (priceless). She grabbed my cell phone as a bargaining chip. I laughed because it's almost worthless - I got it on ebay for HK$200 total.

I wouldn't pay up because I was short of cash, otherwise I would call up the local 19 year old girl who offered me kiss only for $1200. I already spent $150 on the room. I had $400 in small notes. Then I could possibly count enough small notes to get $80 for another hour. I gave her $100 so she would go, but she refused. I wouldn't pay any more because I still wanted to see another girl for money I had left, and for the time I had left in the room. My cell wasn't worthless but it wasn't cash and it didn't enter my mind.

So I walked boldly out to the reception where there were a few women, manager and staff included. The girl kept threatening me. I said to the women, "Did you ever see anyone so ruthless?" I then asked if I could have the refund to my room - no is the answer. I asked if they have security like. Yes, they have, a one man Parkistani security! I did worry if I can get out of Park Street Hotel in one piece, but I worry more if I didn't get a nice girl that evening. I did said to the girl that I was scared and if I they threaten me more I would call the police to make sure that I can get out in one piece.

Anyway the girl left with my $200 2nd hand or multiple hand cell phone. I was scared to get out of the hotel, and scared to stay too. So I locked myself in the room and think. So I called the booker to see what she had to say. Luckily the phone works in the room. The booker didn't complain nor threaten me. So I asked her to contact the girl and her papa to see what's happening. I called her again and she said the girl didn't admit to taking my phone. I asked to talk to her papa for the phone and see if he would let me walk out of the hotel in one piece. The booker said their phones were off and they couldn't be contacted again. I asked the booker if I could walk out in one piece and she promised that I could. I told her to be sure and she promised. She even asked me to let go thinking of the phone.

So I was thinking who could I call to the hotel? Damn, I got no numbers because I had no cell. I forgot that all my numbers were somewhere in the computer. Then I let go thinking about the $150 room, because the girls on the street looked pretty good for $350, room included.

I left at the main door, where I came in. It was a little scary as the seaside was pretty quite at night. The guy I saw when I was at the reception was the one man security. He had been watching the streets at the door since the incidence. I walked back to the 3 streets, watching my back constantly. One block off ground zero, I saw a police land rover parked by the pavement. Later I saw two policeman on petrol. Maybe because of that, there wasn't any girl when I got to 3 streets. It may also be that it was after dinner time and all the several girls were busy. Actually there were a lot of guys around ground zero, some pimps (pullman?), many johns probably. The most turn off thing to see is the other johns. So I left. Luckily on my way I saw the cute girl that I saw earlier, pretty face like a Korean/Japanese movie star or singer. Very small, in a cute little skirt, and a cute large bikini top. Her tiny small waist was in plain sight. She must had recognized me when I looked at her and walked into her. She should be returning to ground zero after finished with a john. She called her papa on her cell, and lead me to her flat. When I saw a love hotel type of sign on the building, I asked her if the room was included, as I thought I didn't have the money. But she didn't understand. Then I saw that it was a private flat without any 141 type of signs. I was relieved.

The bathroom was small, but the room wasn't too small. It's like a 141 flat without personal touch. She is young and cute, skinny with awesome tiny waist that I loved. But life must had been hard for her growing up or recently. Her breast were small and droopy. Her lower body from hips down wasn't in good proportion. Her legs are a little curved so it wasn't good to look at when she was walking. I licked her tummy and waist a bit, and her cheeks. I wouldn't venture into other areas before she's cleaned up thoroughly by me, not a quick shower by herself. Then I laid down beside her. I thought she was trying to take a rest. She would hold me beside her and caress my penis. I was a non-rush session.

Then she put on the condom, at the same time afraid that it wouldn't fit. I was disappointed that she's the only PRC girl on this trip who wouldn't blow me without condoms. I was even more disappointed that she wouldn't even blow. Then she asked me to get on top. I got in and it was average for her size. But she was good to hold tight to. Then I asked for doggy until she said it hurt. Then I got back to mish. It took me a long time to cum, because I sex everyday or every other day, often two shots. It was punishing for her. She even said that she wanted to call it a night.

I gave her $400. I asked her phone number and she gave me her papa's. But it was a long PRC number. I didn't know what to say! After some thought she gave me her cell number, a HK number. But she said she would leave in 3 days. Maybe it's true as most of these girls are transients, with short term visas. Maybe it's a standard response so patrons will come back again in less than 3 days.

She was from the North East, no matter that she looked a Korean/Japanese star. I caressed her awesome waist as we walked down to the streets. I kissed her cheek goodbye in the lift. She already gave me her name when she wrote me her numbers. On the final steps she remembered to ask me my name. Then it was goodbye time. She said she hope to see me if there is chance. I could sense the helpless feeling. She would go back in 3 days and wouldn't know if anybody would bring her back again, and when. I would see her again in 3 days is not very likely - she knew what she was up against. There's a fat chance that I would call her papa's PRC number.

I was counting my loss on my way back home. The phone cost me $200 and I had about $100 call value left. Plus the $100 that I gave her, it was exactly $400 that I was supposed to pay her. Then I would get 3 hours of royal flush service (that I wasn't sure what it was). I was silly letting her go, on hind sight.

So now I'm calling my own number every 30 minutes. To see if I can patch things up and offer her the rest of the money, for my phone and a fuck. It was like a free fuck that's why I'm still calling. My main worry is that there's a few numbers stored in my phone book, that she could black mail me. But since she threw away the phone or turned off the phone, I wasn't too worried, at least for today. I would keep calling, until I get the free fuck.

[OldAsiaHand]

I stayed in TST last night. I usually stay on Lockhart Road in Wanchai, but opted for a change of scenery.

After a few beers and dinner on Nathan Road, I found a Bangladesh girl in the midst of the worn Indian talent. 25 yo; she had a pretty face and had a reasonable body. I popped into Sticky Fingers for a quick look, but decided to call her over to my hotel for ST since I have never done Bangladesh before. The BBBJ was pretty good including deep throat. The rest was standard. Damages: 200 HK$

I tried to get some sleep since I had an early breakfast meeting, but found myself wide awake at 3:00am. I went back to Sticky Fingers. I can describe this place as a very mini Fenwicks. There is an assortment of talent from Latin American, E. Europe/Russia, Thai, Filipina, China. However, the numbers are far less. I pulled a Chinese girl, which I normally do not do in HK since it is so much cheaper across the border. There was something about this one and my instinct was right. Turned out to be very GFE. Damages: 300 HK$.

OAH

[Mighty Spearsman]

Last week or so, a guy was gunned down in the TST streets....

So now I'm calling my own number every 30 minutes. To see if I can patch things up and offer her the rest of the money, for my phone and a fuck. It was like a free fuck that's why I'm still calling. My main worry is that there's a few numbers stored in my phone book, that she could black mail me. But since she threw away the phone or turned off the phone, I wasn't too worried, at least for today. I would keep calling, until I get the free fuck.
Doesn't make much sense to keep calling. "Free fuck"? You're dreaming, my friend. Time to cut your losses and move on.

While blackmail might be possible, realistically most thieves who steal cell phones throw out the SIM card immediately and then re-sell the phone. If there's a lot of calling time left (you indicated HK $100), then maybe they'll make a few long distance calls first before throwing out the SIM card, but more likely they'll get rid of the SIM card right away as that's the only evidence that could prove that they stole the phone.

[Deelirious2]

I'm probably retarded, but despite the map, and the detailed description of how to find K-Pressure in this forum, I can't find it. The map indicates that it is on the corner of Woosung and Jordan. I went around that area about three times, and can't find any such street called "Woosung"

After the Jordan MTR, there appears to be only one major street before an old church. After that is a large compound and the road curves dramatically with nothing much in site after that. What am I missing?

Also, does anyone know what time the gates at most of the 141 building close? I went out at 12:30, and the NEW LUCKY HOUSE and NATIONAL COURT doors were already closed. I don't speak Chinese, so there's not much point in trying to call the gals.

Many Thanks

[Deelirious2]

I was walking down the wrong side of the street, in the wrong direction. No wonder I didn't find it. I'm gonna check it out later today, and maybe hit up National Court also.

[William Tellhk]

I'm probably retarded, but despite the map, and the detailed description of how to find K-Pressure in this forum, I can't find it. The map indicates that it is on the corner of Woosung and Jordan. I went around that area about three times, and can't find any such street called "Woosung"

After the Jordan MTR, there appears to be only one major street before an old church. After that is a large compound and the road curves dramatically with nothing much in site after that. What am I missing?

Also, does anyone know what time the gates at most of the 141 building close? I went out at 12:30, and the NEW LUCKY HOUSE and NATIONAL COURT doors were already closed. I don't speak Chinese, so there's not much point in trying to call the gals.

Many Thanks

You were on the wrong side of Nathan Road. You need to be on the western side, but you were near Cox Stree and the Kowloon Union Church.

Regarding closing time..most 141 close around midnight anyway.. except some 24 hrs operations (which then is mentioned on the webpage)
IMHO it is better to go lunchtime or early afternoon if you can> they are still fresh..

[Ramn HK]

I'm probably retarded, but despite the map, and the detailed description of how to find K-Pressure in this forum, I can't find it. The map indicates that it is on the corner of Woosung and Jordan. I went around that area about three times, and can't find any such street called "Woosung"



Welcome to Hong Kong! The place is on the same side of Jordan Road where a department store called Yue Hwa is located. Next to it is an MTR exit. Just walk further along Jordan Road. Do not cross Nathan Road as you will be going the wrong direction, and soon enough you will see an orange signage of a fast food place called "Yoshinoya". It is on the corner of Woosung Street and Jordan Road. If you look upwards you will see a large sign with a couple of girls on it and a price of $390 written on the sign. Its in that building. The entrance is on Woosung Street. Climb up a flight of stairs and you're there.

Have fun in Hong Kong!

[Hari Hara]

I stayed in TST last night. I usually stay on Lockhart Road in Wanchai, but opted for a change of scenery.

After a few beers and dinner on Nathan Road, I found a Bangladesh girl in the midst of the worn Indian talent. 25 yo; she had a pretty face and had a reasonable body. I popped into Sticky Fingers for a quick look, but decided to call her over to my hotel for ST since I have never done Bangladesh before. The BBBJ was pretty good including deep throat. The rest was standard. Damages: 200 HK$

I tried to get some sleep since I had an early breakfast meeting, but found myself wide awake at 3:00am. I went back to Sticky Fingers. I can describe this place as a very mini Fenwicks. There is an assortment of talent from Latin American, E. Europe/Russia, Thai, Filipina, China. However, the numbers are far less. I pulled a Chinese girl, which I normally do not do in HK since it is so much cheaper across the border. There was something about this one and my instinct was right. Turned out to be very GFE. Damages: 300 HK$.

OAHCan you tell me where to find Sticky fingers. Is it on Nathan Rd in TST?

[Dorasan]

I saw the K-pressure ad on the newspaper. It says both front and back, poison dragon, oral explosion etc, all for 390. I think if you ask for all those, they might give you a girl that do all those. Nobody (2) invited me to their back door, and one doesn't do oral explosion. I don't think that they ripped me off. The mami only made sure that they do poison dragon, didn't mention the other things.

PS, most locals and PRC chinese down there would rather die than being seen using my phone ($200). So I told everybody that I lost phones all the time. Buying a charger will cost considerable amount of money. Counting the effort to get one for 200, the net value is negative. So I still have hope.

[Summiteer]

Stick Fingers is in TST east on Mody Rd. It is almost opposite the back entrance to the Royal Garden Hotel.

You can get there by taking the walkking from the TST MTR station towards the KCR station and exiting at the Royal garden Hotel exit instead of going down the KCR escalator ... it is signposted but I cannot remember the exit letter.

Stick Fingers is on the far side of Mody Rd (i.e furthest away from Nathan Rd). It is also close to the Tim Sh Tsui Centre.

From Nathan Rd ...
Take one of the many roads that are at 90 degrees to Nathan rd heading East (away from the start ferry) I suggest either Mody Rd or Cameron Rd. You will then meet another Main rd heading away from the water that is parallel to Nathan rd called Chatham rd (i suggested cameron rd as there are padestrain lights over Chatham rd) crossing can otherwise be difficult.

From the Chatham rd / Cameron rd lights go straight across a square and walk past the right hand end of Peninsula center and past Royal Garden hotel... you will come to Mody Rd ...... STICKY FINGERS is on the far side of the road straight on front of you !!

If you took Mody Rd .. just keep following it !!! from Nathan rd STICKY FINGERS is on the right hand side

Lots of fine ladies to be viewed ...

I hope you find it

[OldAsiaHand]

The MTR - KCR tunnel is aircon and well appreciated this time of year. The exit is P2. After you come up the escaltor, just keep walking straight past the Shangri-La on your right, Royal Garden on your left. Sticky Fingers is on the same side as the Shangri-La Hotel.

OAH


Stick Fingers is in TST east on Mody Rd. It is almost opposite the back entrance to the Royal Garden Hotel.

You can get there by taking the walkking from the TST MTR station towards the KCR station and exiting at the Royal garden Hotel exit instead of going down the KCR escalator ... it is signposted but I cannot remember the exit letter.

Stick Fingers is on the far side of Mody Rd (i.e furthest away from Nathan Rd). It is also close to the Tim Sh Tsui Centre.

From Nathan Rd ...
Take one of the many roads that are at 90 degrees to Nathan rd heading East (away from the start ferry) I suggest either Mody Rd or Cameron Rd. You will then meet another Main rd heading away from the water that is parallel to Nathan rd called Chatham rd (i suggested cameron rd as there are padestrain lights over Chatham rd) crossing can otherwise be difficult.

From the Chatham rd / Cameron rd lights go straight across a square and walk past the right hand end of Peninsula center and past Royal Garden hotel... you will come to Mody Rd ...... STICKY FINGERS is on the far side of the road straight on front of you !!

If you took Mody Rd .. just keep following it !!! from Nathan rd STICKY FINGERS is on the right hand side

Lots of fine ladies to be viewed ...

I hope you find it

[Ramn HK]

For those of you who wish to know directions to the above, all you have to do is to go to the "Maps" section.

Tiger 1 and several other contributors have painstakingly posted maps and directions to these havens of carnal delights.

Have fun in Hong Kong!

[Dorasan]

i had been saying that k pressure isn't that great. if you know where to find the right 141 girls, they are better and charge a lot less.

i ran into a girl at mongkok 141 apartment. she does uniform, oral explosion etc. she is only 25, she claimed. i found out later that 3 girls in a row, i.e., room a, b and c all do everything, at least two of them do uniform. from my girl, i sensed that the competition is red hot between them.

my girl has great legs and waist as advertised. she opened the door with bikini on. i couldn't resist to get in. fake boobs, up to standard. straight back length hair. if you look at her from her back, she looked a lot younger. her face looked older than 25, probably. not beautiful, but not bad, smooth with some makeup.

her room is rather spacious compared to other partitioned apartments. looked clean too. she had a large ceiling to floor mirror near the bed, and she's not shy for you to see whatever she's doing. her bathroom is small as usual, but i can turn around freely and the drainage is good.

after the shower, she asked me to pick one of the "hundred's" of costume hanging high above along the wall. she's so cute in that. then she led me into role play. she's prc but she's better than many experienced european girls in that. she rimmed me twice, once on my back, holding my legs myself. the 2nd time i was on all fours. very thorough, with multiple rimming positions, better than all (2) the k pressure girls i had. then she blew me without condom. i asked for oral explosion. last time the girl said, "how about me?" that meant she needed me to fuck her pussy too. i offered her two shots and of course i needed to compensate for her time and effort. this girl was thinking too. she was thinking how to make me satisfied. she suggested to fuck until i was almost ready to cum. then she would catch explosion --- japanese av style. that's exactly what i wanted. that's easy to manage than two shorts, and no extra time is required. and remember that i will not dfk her because of what she does with her mouth, and without dfk it's a long wait for the 2nd shot.

without worrying shooting into empty air, i let her blow me longer. then i stopped her and got on top. at this time she still had her uniform partly on and partly off. she was still role playing. actually she was directing. she created a [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) scene for me to get into! we fuck each other with obscene language too; she started it. i did mish, doggy, and something in between. she would let me put her in the best angle for the mirror.

i doubt if she speaks english, but i guess a smile and showing her $300 will get you in without problem. i doubt if she would be afraid of anything else.

when i felt i was cumming, i told her to get ready. she jumped up quickly and pulled the condom immediately. then she just quickly grabbed my penis and put it in her mouth like a hose. she didn't need to clean it or wipe it. then she started sucking hard.

... needed to sleep

good morning. she was sucking me like crazy. then i realized that i couldn't have an explosion anymore. the first days of the trip i could flood the condom. in the first week i still managed to explode twice, but wasted on the girls who ducked it. now even if i could cum it would be a trickle. so before she would complain that her jaws were tired, i raped her again.

this happy hooker had a lot to say. when i came dinner time, 8 o'clock, it's the best time. otherwise she boosted that she worked non-stop. she said her neighbors would be idle, too jealous looking at the close circuit tv, seeing her clients coming and going, and often close up shop early. i said they should be thanking her bring overflow business to her. she said it's true only at first, then her clients would not settle for anything else.

she said she had dance, drama background. look at her pictures and you will agree. her legs and waist is really awesome for her age. younger girls don't look that good. if she looked any prettier on her face, i could dfk her no matter what, even she rimmed everybody. she grew up leader of the girl pack on her street. she was the organizer at school, drama, dance that sort of things. she told me all those to explain that her client kept coming back for the dramatic experience and all her talents.

after a rest and a shower, i asked for the damage. she opened the fridge first, full of bottled water and beer. i took a beer for the road, though you are not supposed to eat or drink on public transports. then she said $300, exactly as advertised. i was surprised that everything was included, so i gave her a good tip.

[Salaryman]

Fellow mongers,

Promised to report an experience I had in a KTV place in HK. For those who have been to similar places in China may not find this so interesteing but for those who have no chance to go to China, this may offer an alternative night entertainment.
Was in HK 2 weeks ago and a friend of mine took me to a KTV place in Causeway Bay. It was in Gloucester Road and I think on the 6F of some famous building (the immigration department is in the same building) facing the waterfront. It was about 9:30 pm when we got there and the mamasan greeted us and took us to a room. My friend is a regular customer so he knows the mamasan very well. They serve mainly locals, rich mainland Chinese and Japanese but not so many Caucasians.

A bottle of whisky was immediately brought to us and then followed by a parade of girls. Majority of these girls who work there are from China on a short visit visa (2 weeks) but there are also a few locals as well. My friend picked a busty 22 year old from the northeast mainland and I picked a slim local (in fact she was originally from the mainland but she has been in HK for the last 7 years). If you want the girl to go out with you afterwards, you have to let the mamasan know first since some girls will not do the extra trade.

We sang songs, drank whisky and flirted with our ladies. This went on for a few hours and it's time to go. The damage was around $2,500 plus a tip to the mamasan. I think it's about 1,000 but my friend took care of that. Then it's time for us to go separate way. I was told by the mamasan I had to give the girl 1,000 for the sitting fee in the KTV room and another 1,500 for one time only (YES only one Q) so the total damage for me was 2,500. It's a little bit expensive since you can do better if you go to Fenwick, etc. but this was a new experience for me. Anyway, we went back to my hotel and did the usual business. The girl I had had small tits but a tight pussy. Unfortunately as I said she only let me do her once even though I could manage a few more. It must be around 3:30 am when she left but it was pouring rain so I guessed that she had to wait a long time in the hotel lobby for a taxi home.

SM

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[Kj277]

I am a long time lurker on this board and have finally decided to take the plunge and actually post. I actually feel guilty because ISG has been a veritable plethora of info. I’ll try to make it up in the next few days by cramming as much as I can remember in the near future.

Anyway, I was at Sun Hot Sauna in TST, which has received many favorable reviews in the past. In fact, I have been there twice before earlier this year, and while SHS pales in comparison to its Mainland counterparts, I have always felt it was a quality and more importantly reliable establishment.

I walked in tonight at 9:00 pm and it was absolutely dead. “Great!”, I thought to myself. Aftter showering up and putting my things away in my locker, the male attendant asks me,”You Korean?”. I replied affirmative and I just new the shit had hit the fan. He immediately buzzes downstairs and say on the phone, “Han Gok!” meaning “Korean” in Cantonese. Experience, first-hand and through hearsay has taught me that native Koreans have a pretty shitty reputation amongst the ladies in China and HK. Let me clarify, I am Korean but was born and raised in New York.

Anyway, I get to the lounge and after giving me the pricing structure, the manager makes a phone call also and says, “K-O-R-E-A-N!” I should have walked out then but I never do – fuck.

In the massage room that I am led to walks in Carmen, a Beijing native that has been in HK way to long. The arrangement that I am paying for is 90 minutes – those of you who have been there know the setup – pretty good massage followed by a solid fuck session. Carmen, who has no shame to her game asks me, “Do you want massage?....or just make love?” I knew where this was going so I asked for the massage first. She of course was unhappy but there was much more to come. 10 minutes into a very shitty massage, she says, “Why you so happy?”. The thing is I was really tired and was in the mood for a relaxing massage so as annoying as this situation was turning out to be, I wasn’t pissed and it confused her. She was out to break me and get me to fuck quickly but I wasn’t playing her game! She then says the funniest shit – “You too fat!”. I couldn’t believe it and started laughing. I definitely have an extra 20 lbs around the gut but to hear her say it cracked me up – the balls on this chick! To make a long story short, this went on until I relented, had quick, hilariously loud, over the top sex and she was ready to go. I told her I had 30 minutes left and forced her to sit with me. Then, the coup de grace – we spent the rest of the time laughing about her shitty service and bad breath. A bizarre fuckin evening!

Obviously, I can’t go back here, not because of Carmen but because as long as they have this discriminatory policy against Koreans, it’s just a waste of time and money for me.

I am in town for the next 2 days and am open to partying here or in Shenzhen, Dongguan, Zhuhai or Macao with anybody who is willing. PM me if interested. Tks guys.

[Nutso]

The City section of SCMP ran a big article today about Fenwicks with the title "Vice girls peddling cocaine in disco". Apparently, an undercover SCMP reporter was offered cocaine several times last week at Fenwicks by some of the Latinos. Personally, I have never seen it and I talked to several of them just this weekend. The article also highlighted the sharp increase in Latino working girls in Hong Kong (quoting a "Wan Chai industry expert" - which could have been anyone of us, but I'm betting they asked Spike from the Hongkietown blog).

For the short term, given that a 13 year old boy died of a drug overdose last week in TST, we can expect more security in places like Fenwicks and Neptune. The owners are going to need to make a very public showing that they are doing something about the problem. I also expect that we are going to see a whole lot more immigration raids. I wonder, though, now that the Latinos are going to see their supplemental income being squeezed, are they going to raise their ST/LT prices?

[BJK]

The owners are going to need to make a very public showing that they are doing something about the problem. I also expect that we are going to see a whole lot more immigration raids. I wonder, though, now that the Latinos are going to see their supplemental income being squeezed, are they going to raise their ST/LT prices?

Likely to see some more LE activity.
As for price rise, I doubt it. Who would pay more? Already over priced IMO, they ask the maximum the market will bear.

BJK

[Dorasan]

the drama queen i mentioned, she is in rm c. how many building with 3 girls in one floor, two with uniform pictures on? though the english version just say professional service, but if you translate the chinese version (babel fish remember?), it says everything that i told you. those who guessed are all correct. if you guess wrong, i will give you the correct one. can't reply to everybody.

but imagine if you increase from $300 to $400 or $500? someday i'm going to fuji building in causeway bay. a few girls offer similar things. if you go there once, it isn't too far away. but if you go there everyday ... that's why i stick to mk tst jordan and prince edward for a while.

had a $1200 local girl, twice. can't shout her up moaning. but it's more like singing with occasional laughter. it's so nice that i asked to tape her. certainly will qualify for the top 10 of the local ring tone contest. will upload later, if it doesn't break any laws or isg rules. my buddy murep001eers ran into trouble. jackson do keep logs and he attended courts. so no more sex pictures from me. the 2nd time, when i opened the door, she cling onto me like a spider. after i stripped her naked, she was still clinging onto me like a spider, i was supporting her with both arms and my erect dick. the trouble is, she forgot to call papa and check in for a good 15 min. her papa already suspected there's something between us by calling for her again in just a few days. she made sure that she call papa to check out soon after i finished, before she washed herself. and when she left, she told me to call papa's many other younger and prettier girls.

booked another local, the booker tricked me into getting there, san diego, but gave me another one. not exactly my cup of tea but i thought she would be nice. so was she. she tried to keep her moaning down, to preserve her student image. but she was really moaning or uncomfortable. i thought i was hurting her a bit, and i didn't even try to change position. though i really screwed her hard, slowly and deeply. a few girls couldn't take doggy for a minute. when i finished, dam, she asked permission to take a cigarette! she turned the table on me.

booked a prc hotel girl for $700. there wasn't any of my first choices at the time. the papa told me he couldn't get tst hotel, told me to go to a hotel two blocks from k pressure, all on the same street as san diego. but it was a cheap hotel for prc tourists. i got into a tiny room, almost as small as the 1/4 flat of the 141 apartment girls. two girls in there, all wasn't the one in the picture. they weren't bad, but not at $700 or $500. there are better looking ones for the standard $350 on all the brothels and on the 3 streets. their pussy may have less mileage, but i wouldn't know. i think the girl i wanted was gone, rather than they put up a totally fake ad. the ad disappeared when i went home.

san diego is big business. everybody uses it. many tst hotel girls actually uses sd. because i was surprised that there's hourly rate! so it have to be friendly for in call girls as well. there's the hotel proper, and then a building next to it with a smaller entrance. they opened a new and bigger hotel on the opposite side of nathan road. it wasn't bad - $2xx for two hours day time, weekdays. the new one is $3xx. but i like park street more, at $155, if there's no line for the rooms. the large rooms are a lot larger than hotel rooms with ceiling to floor mirrors. though i like most are small love hotels and even brothels, with large mirror by the bed. there's no pretense to be a decent hotel.

ps. i think some hotel reservation girls will go to your hotel. for some local girls, hotel room wasn't included in the price. papa call them out when they are requested. they do outcall. a girl told me that "westerners are larger" isn't true. about half and half. so at 50% it wasn't larger at all. prc girls not as likely.

[Deelirious2]

Thanks to all those who post in this forum. I was in HK for about 5 full days. The first girl I saw was at the New Lucky House. 5th fl I think. She was hot, with perfert tits. Half way through the session, I noticed she had one of those ugly scars on her belly. She tried to cover it up with her hands as much as possible. Luckily it wasn't a turn off, and I finished up. Two days later, I was trying to see a girl, "Apple" from ****** on the 15th floor of National Court. She wasn't in, but another girl on the same floor opened her door and I decided to check her out. "April" was young, funny, hot, and playful. She gave me this great massage which the other girl from Lucky House didn't, and overall, the experience was 300% better. The next day was my last day, and I went back to National Court to check out Apple again, but she wasn't in. It was about 6pm, and the hallways were crawling with guys. I just staked out one chick who had pics of herself on the door and waited for the other guy to finish. After about half an hour, he finished, and I walked in. Immediately, I knew this wasn't going to be good. The girl was cold as ice. I got a decent massage, but this girl was so cold and mechanical that it was a turnoff. Annoyed more than arroused, I couldn't get it up, and that just made things worse. The girl faked all these noises, and furiously tried to give me a handjob that was down right painful. Eventually I just left. I asked her how much, and she said $500. I told her that I'd only give her $300, going rate for a massage and a handjob and she kept insisting on $500. Eventually she said $400 and I compromised on $350. I went back to the 15th floor, and as luck had it, April was just coming back from shopping. The experience was much better up there. Afterwards, we just hung out. She modeled some of the clothes she had just bought for me. Her friend text messaged her asking if she wanted to go to a movie, and she invited me to go with her. We met up with her friend, and this other guy, a professional golfer, in TST. After the movie, we went to a Karaoke place, and got completely hammered while singing and playing dice. April was very playful the whole night and it was a whole lot of fun. We left at about 5am and she came back to my hotel. I assume we fucked, but I really don't remember. I had to wake up at 6:30 to catch my flight. All in all, an interesting experience. I have to say though, that on the whole, you get a much better deal in Thailand through one of the massage outcall services. For $50-$60 you get a first rate massage in your room and don't have to deal with all the B.S. of walking around scummy buildings.

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[Superforce99]

Had time to visit several places this weekend in HK. Was raining a bit on Saturday
and couldn't get a Filipino maid...there were none around and don't know where they
go when it's wet outside. Anyway, I've set my sights on getting one sooner rather
than later.

I checked out the reliable "yellow" sign places and went to an old favorite location.
If you exit the MTR station across the street from the Bonjour shop, the elevator
to the overpass leading you to the KCR train should be on your left. Keep walking
straight, towards the Bonjour and then past the 7-11, and then the next block. Down
the street on your right should be a "yellow sign" place next to a Chinese herbal tea
place. I love this place because it's always had consistently good service providers
for me, although I know these places draw from the same "pool" of talent, I guess it's
luck of the draw. I asked for a Malay gal, even though in HK, Malay <---> Thai, so
asking for Malay or Thai is equivalent for asking for the lowest priced option.

Waited about 15 minutes and then some gal arrived. She looked nice and pleasant, about
5'4, slim, and nice rack. She was from Thailand and spoke little Chinese/English. We
undressed and she looked nice though the breasts had a weird "off" look to them. Had
a good shower with washing of the asshole (good sign for later AR service). Gave a
short BBBJ in the shower which was nice. Once on the bed, she begins service immediately,
and starts with some body kissing and nipple licking then a great BBBJ with ball licking
and AR. Alternating soft and hard licks with her tongue while keeping her soft lips
massaging the shaft...deep-throat...it was just a great BBBJ and this went on for a
long 15 minutes or so before I told her to stop. Put on the condom then fucked her
in a few positions before I quickly pulled out of her, pulled off the condom, and she finished
CIM no problems. Then we showered and left. Fast food sex at its best. Also, I realized
that she had fake tits during the FS...actually pretty stiff and artificial feeling and
she must realize how bad a boob job it is because she would let me touch them and avoided
any breast contact. Overall, a good gal with great service and I'd do her again but
sorry I don't know her name. I'd rate this gal about a "7" in looks, which is much better
than the "5" or "6" that sometimes is sent for service. After dozens of HK Thai/Malays
now, I find that if I choose a better looking Thai/Malay, the level of service is
usually great. Worse-looking Thai/Malay in the yellow sign places have largely
NOT given better service to make up for their lack of looks, too. This kind of
"choosing the best looking provider" is natural for most mongers but I feel that it
usually leads to inconsistent service and only occasional good service. That's why it's
strange that it actually works in the yellow sign brothels only for me, anyway. Anyone
else have this experience? I think that it's somewhat difficult for the Thai girls to
come over to HK and they already have had lots of experience in Thai saunas or as
Thai SWs, and once in HK, they find that they will have to do hundreds of guys in a
month to make enough money to pay off the snakeheads and have take income. Better
service = more predicable routine = consistent number of guys = satisfied guys =
repeat customers = better tips = more money. And ofcourse, the best looking Thais
will have more/earlier exposure to this whole cycle and practice makes perfect...
I don't do Chinese gals in the yellow sign places, so for those that do, is this
"hot looks = good service" also true for Chinese gals?

J

[Superforce99]

on another note, i went to a 161sex provider, and afterward, i feel that 161sex is an
option for older, less-affluent mongers (local and foreign) as well as older or less
attractive girls. it's not bad, but i feel there would be no reason for a good looking
girl to advertise on 161sex since her looks and higher price would be unusual on that
board and probably bring too much attention and scrutiny. so, i used the search function
on 161sex and, for fun, searched for gals that gave bbbj, cim, and anal. a lot of
unattractive options came up but one intriguing girl was http://www.161sex.com/ebiz.php?view=2444
who advertises as thai (check) 200 rmb all-you-can fuck in 60 minutes (check), anal
(check), and age 24 (ha ha ha...). she would be a compelling fuck on many fronts so i
went to visit her and the entrance is not totally clear (the left side of a dah sing bank)
but once i got there, you can see her room is one among 4 other 161sex rooms. at 4pm,
two others were busy but the others, including her, were not. after opening the door,
i was pretty put aback, almost to the point of leaving, but, well, i'll try it out for
the experience.

first of all, there's a reason her face is blurred out and that she doesn't wear revealing
clothing on the website ad. that is some major photoshop, lighting, and photography
magic achieved in presenting this gal. she must be pushing age 35-40, has a fat sagging
belly, and a tired face. it's hard to even give her a rating, since it's like rating the fat,
slovenly cleaning lady that comes into your office twice a week...it's not even
on your radar, you know? if i had to, i guess i would rate her a 2, maybe a 3 because
she's nice and speaks excellent cantonese (lived in hk 10 years, and long years living
in hk is actually another indication of great service to come, from my experience).
after entering her surprisingly spacious room, we took a shower (which doubled as a
kitchen...imagine the shower head above the toilet which is directly behind the
stovetop...ha ha...) where she gave my asshole a good cleaning. as i laid on her bed
she put on some porn on the tv (miko lee, my favorite) and then immediately started
servicing me with nipple licking, body licking, and then a great bbbj with ball licking
and ar. not as good as the gal in my earlier report but still good. after about 10 minutes,
she asked if it was time to “have fun” and i agreed. she put a bit of ky jelly in her vagina
and her ass then bent over doggie (so i wouldn’t get a good look at that belly, i assume)
and i capped then slid into her pussy, which was unsurprisingly loose. then she actually
pulled out of me, took my cock, and in one smooth motion pushed me all the way into her
ass. i was actually kind of surprised, but she was already pushing in and out at this point,
i joined in the motion. this was my first anal, and i assume anal usually isn’t this smooth
or easy, but her ass was tight and soft and wet (from the ky) and actually felt exactly like
some of the tighter vaginas i’ve had, particularly young cutie pie gal from lian hu road.
it was actually pretty good and felt great pumping in and out….but then i looked down
and noticed that there were some…dark…particles on the condom…shit! it was shit!
ha ha…nothing like a shitty dick to ruin the mood. i concentrated as hard as i could to
come and then used tissues to remove the shit-stained condom asap. i laid down to rest
and the woman washed up in the bathroom then lay next to me. at this point, about 30
minutes had passed and she was in no hurry to cheat me out of the 60-minute sex
buffet. i took a 5 minute catnap while she rested next to me. the i opened my eyes and
yawned, and i guess she took this as a sign that meant, “time for fuck, now” and she
jumped down into a bbbj. ha ha, it was crazy, i was about to get up and to wash up
in the bathroom actually before a second round, but i guess she wanted to do it with
her mouth instead. after another good 15 minutes of bbbj and ar, i just couldn’t get
hard enough to fuck her. i guess the image of shitty dick was too much to overcome and
i made up some excuse that i was too tired from the night before and she laughed. we
washed up then i paid her, she gave me the traditional thai bow, then i left. no tip asked
given. my feeling is that you could do anything with this woman…cim, facial, ass
to mouth, cum bubbles, rep002s, rep001….

anyway, an experience, but i wouldn’t do cleaning lady again. if you decide to do her,
tell her to douche her ass before you fuck her in the ass…
she also told me the record for a customer was 5 comes in one hour with
her, so feel free to try and break that prestigious record …


j

[Tiger 888]

Since the pricing setup is done by the "Employers" according to looks and performance, you couldn't expect anything more for 200 HK$.

[Tiger 888]

The Sticky Fingers management turns crazy. Last night they were refusing entry to the majority of the working girls. Lets see if this is the beginning of the end there.

[Mighty Spearsman]

On another note, I went to a 161sex provider, and afterward, I feel that 161sex is an option for older, less-affluent mongers (local and foreign) as well as older or less attractive girls... A lot of
unattractive options came up but one intriguing girl was http://www.161sex.com/ebiz.php?view=2444 who advertises as Thai (check) 200 RMB all-you-can fuck in 60 minutes (check), anal (check), and age 24 (ha ha ha...).…

She also told me the record for a customer was 5 comes in one hour with
her, so feel free to try and break that prestigious record …
Hey Johnny, thanks for a fun report. Enjoyed reading it.

5 comes in one hour? Hard to believe, I can't recall ever being that productive even when I was much younger. But with Viagra, Cialis, etc. and with her tight butt and busy mouth, I suppose anything is possible.

[Dorasan]

For the local 141 hotel girls, it's about $1200, some don't even include rooms. I've been told the agent's cut is deep, to cover the advertising etc. The girls pocket less than half I guess. I also heard that for a $600 PRC hotel, she pockets about $200. So if you add hours or give her $100 to $200 tips, she will love you big time. Even though she will only be here for a short time, she still wants repeat business, in the next hour or the next day.

Local hotel girls are more reserved. The agents watch them vigorously. The last thing their agent want is them turning into indies or semi-indies. The K club girls are more flexible. They are more GFE anyway. If they turn up on time to work, the company cares little about what they do outside work hours. Some don't even go to work regularly.

So there's little difference in the money the girl pockets. The high end night club girls pocket like $1500, and you have to spend about the same or more in the club. Local 141 hotels pocket about $500, same as the local girls in the K clubs. So the 141 apartment girls charging $380 to $500 aren't doing much worse than the expensive hotel local girls.

The local indie girls are charging too much. They charge the same as their 141 counterparts, but they pocket all the money. For the easy to hook up indie girls, some are ex-141 hotel girls. Starting at 18, by 21 no agents will bother. Some are really 'new' girls with low mileage, but their appearance can't beat those on 141 - they have to be photogenic.

[Kaplay]

The local indie girls are charging too much. They charge the same as their 141 counterparts, but they pocket all the money. For the easy to hook up indie girls, some are ex-141 hotel girls. Starting at 18, by 21 no agents will bother. Some are really 'new' girls with low mileage, but their appearance can't beat those on 141 - they have to be photogenic.[/QUOTE]Dorasan,

What do you mean by the indie girls who are ex 141 hotel girls? Where can we get in touch with them? Also I wanted to know if you can arrange something like a date with them after their working hours, those locals advertise on 141 website. You know if we could arrange a meeting outside their place for maybe a movie and dinner. It will be like taking them out as an escort.

Also would like to know if anybody has any info on black girls in HK? I remember one post about african girls, are they still around? Any South American black girls? I once called an escort agency and got one from south america. She was very gfe. The only downpoint was that because I have a problem with coming quickly she left after that one shot and i did not plead for her to let me have another go.

tks.

[Elements]

The police are raiding all the places recently, that's why the mangers don't want any illegal working girls go in their clubs.

[Badboyit]

Hi,

I'm actually a newbie on the Hong Kong mongering scene.

Since I will be in HK in a pair of weeks I would like to know how the "things" work there.

I've seen many beauties on "141" and "161" website.

Each girl feature is address and pic of location (that's great especially for a tourist like me).

Anyway I've some questions. If I want to met one of those girl:

1) Since each of them have phone number, have I to phone them and take an appointment (I have seen some require it by writing "(appointment)" near the phone number)?

The problem is that I speak English but I don't speak Cantonese or Mandarin at all so if I have to phone call that would be a problem, while If I go there directly, cash in hands I think she will understand what I want.

2) The price they state on listings is by time or by service?

3) Since I've seen that many of you currently live in HK which girl would you reccomend to a tourist (me)?

Thank you guys

Bad Boy

[Pointpanic]

Hi,

I'm actually a newbie on the Hong Kong mongering scene.

Since I will be in HK in a pair of weeks I would like to know how the "things" work there.

I've seen many beauties on "141" and "161" website.

Each girl feature is address and pic of location (that's great especially for a tourist like me).

Anyway I've some questions. If I want to met one of those girl:

1) Since each of them have phone number, have I to phone them and take an appointment (I have seen some require it by writing "(appointment)" near the phone number)?

The problem is that I speak English but I don't speak Cantonese or Mandarin at all so if I have to phone call that would be a problem, while If I go there directly, cash in hands I think she will understand what I want.

2) The price they state on listings is by time or by service?

3) Since I've seen that many of you currently live in HK which girl would you reccomend to a tourist (me)?

Thank you guys

Bad BoyI was a tourist in HK in early July and tried the 141 girls. I stayed in Tsim Shat Tsui in Kowloon. Therefore I hit the Tsim Shat Tsui section of 141. For hotel reservations you call the number. In my case a man answered and set up the appointment for three hours later. I had to go his hotel in Kowloon. If you hit the building on 141, such as Champagne Court B, you will see the flat numbers for the girls. You just go to the building and go to that floor. Most of the girls put their 141 or 161 pictures on the door. My lady gave me the same price listed on 141. Happy mongering

[Tiger 888]

The police are raiding all the places recently, that's why the mangers don't want any illegal working girls go in their clubs.Well, they are overdoing a bit. They refused a girl who I know is not a working girl. And she is not from South America or Russia, but a blonde caucasian. On the other hand, Thais and Philipinas are let in at random choice, as it seems to me. And no explanation from the manager, whom I know since long. The guy at the door said he is just following orders, without explanation. This may lead to a "meet the girl outside and bring her in" situation, as girls accompanied by a man are not in question.

[Traveler1234]

Hi,

I'm actually a newbie on the Hong Kong mongering scene.

I've seen many beauties on "141" and "161" website.

Anyway I've some questions. If I want to met one of those girl:

1) Since each of them have phone number, have I to phone them and take an appointment (I have seen some require it by writing "(appointment)" near the phone number)?

Thank you guys

Bad Boy


Here's a freebie:

http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=468561&postcount=3211

This was the second to last post on the Report of Distinction, just a click away. Using the search function and typing in "141" results in about 20 hits.

Next time you ask before RTFF, you'll get different response. Don't be lazy and contribute a post after your visit as payback.

[Dorasan]

First of all, don't try to hear what you want to hear. Open your eyes and read, open your ears and listen. (In other words, RTFF.)

141 girls are busy. If you have an eye for a girl, so are hundreds of guys. For the apartment girls, I have mentioned in the past that going into a building with 20 girls is one strategy. Or at least a few girls nearby for backup. The majority of girls do not show telephone numbers now. They can't handle it at busy times. Even if they have numbers, they are not likely to honor appointments for 1st time clients.

I don't know of any good times. Mornings they are sleeping. One said dinner time 8pm is good, but the good ones are already tired by then. At weekends the singles johns will be overseas and the married johns will be with their families. But many girls will be off. I have seen a girl that is probably house sitting for the real girl. Why waste the flat and the ad? If they want to come, let them come. And then tell them.

I thought the hotel PRC girls might be better at weekends. If they are still here they aren't going anywhere. Again nobody honor appointments if another john gets there earlier, or the last john add another hour. I went from New San Diego, a few blocks NE of Jordan MTR, extreme NE exit, to the old San Diego, a few blocks SW of MTR, extreme SW exit. A total of six times, in a rush.

I call the first girl MM. She's ready, papa said. When I was there, they told me to wait for her, she waiting for the room. It was half an hour. I waited at the cheapo cafe next door. I called another girl CY that I called before: last time they gave me two other girls to see but I left without my girl. This time he has to be honest, she isn't available. I brought out my computer to call my backups. It was so obvious bringing out the computer next to the most used love hotel. I called and it was the same papa of CY, and he didn't pretend he's not. I called one down the list, TY. She's available but at the old San Diego. So I went there. Same thing, she's waiting for available room. I desperately needed another cheapo cafe that I can bring out the computer without worrying the other cheapo guys laughing. I couldn't find one suitable. Then CY called, almost ready. So I went back to NSD. No follow up call. Then TY called back. It wasn't TY, but CY, from the same stable on 2nd top of my list. Papa also gave me the room number. So I had to go back to OSD.

I was at the door when my cell rang. It was MM's mami. It was so close, so I told her to wait for 2 minutes. So I knocked the door. It doesn't look like CY, or anybody else that I can think of. I was confused. But her body could be CY, and her face could be too, with almost no makeup, compared to heavy makeup in her pictures. So I left, saying that I will call her papa to discuss.

MM's mami didn't call back. She did called after a few minutes. She asked me where I was and gave me the room number. I didn't tell her that I was at the Old SD. I told her I was in the MTR almost gone home.

If you don't understand, so do I. I see the same begger in the MTR 3 times. I can only see him close like that on one way. So I must have walked between OSD and NSD 6 times, or 5 times, or 4 times (the 1st time I saw the begger when I left the MTR to NSD).

The last thing she was waiting is for the room. NSD is supposed to be one of the most expensive, popular hourly hotels, at 300+ for two hours. But the room is very untidy, but not dirty. Luggage, eaten apple and a cigarette on the ash tray. Not fresh duvet and bed sheets. A pile of used towels in plain sight. She wasn't waiting for the room from the hotel. Maybe they shared the room and she was waiting for her turn. Maybe she was coming from some other establishment.

The verdict? Worth the wait. Now I understand why PRC girls don't look 18. With professional makeup artist and makeover, they don't. But at the door, without makeup, they look like their pretty little sister, pure country girls, not a day older than 18. She maybe older but not from the look of her perfect C breast.

PRC hotels girls are prettier on the face, perhaps just because they show it. Breast is usually bigger or more full, that's how they select them. If they don't show it, legs are usually thicker at the thigh: thing of all the bicycle training soon after they can walk. Feet and toes are awesome - barefoot, slippers and sandals are good for the feet. They never apply vanish too. (City girls are different.) But their attitude is not good. Perhaps mostly because how they were treated, by their papa/mami's and the johns.

At double the price, local hotel girls are supposed to be less used. But you feel tighter probably because they are usually smaller and skinner. They are usually nicer to you on the surface, because not a lot will pay double for their language skills. They got different sort of attitudes, looking at your brand of watch, clothes and shoes.

Independent (indie) local girls simply charges too much, same as the local hotel girls but pocketing all the money. Most don't give you pictures because they can't compete with the 141 girls on pictures. They claim to be semi-pros and non-pros but some are ex-pros. Some are just pros selling on a different channel. Very hit and miss.

Any 141 girls aren't likely to go out with you or anything else. Just economics. Everything is possible but the one that go out with you aren't the ones you want. Indie girls are slightly more likely - some want to see your pictures first. Most likely are sauna girls and nightclub girls. They have fixed hours if they want to. They are comparatively expensive, with too much competition both locally and overseas. So outside of their work hours, they may want to see you for less.

As for domestic helpers, Thai and Indonesia are the later comers and are cheaper than Philipinas. Any educated mother will get a DH and go to work herself. The penetration of DH is terrible. Any building suitable for children to live in has some DH's. Local men rather be dead than seen going out with a DH, or their lookalikes, when there are so much PRC girls to pick. But they don't seem to know that East Europeans and South Americans are the cheaper imports in other parts of the world: N America and Europe.

MM did washed me thoroughly, when I almost thought I was going to do it alone. She then told me to lie down right away, condom at hand. I was a few inches off, and she wasn't happy. I had to move exactly where she told me. What a Dom potential! When I came in, she never smiled. I hesitated for a sec and she told me that she was going to give me another one, with hands on the phone.

Luckily I know what to do. I gave her the money and put another 100 note on the table under my wallet. She asked what's it for. I wanted to say if she's nice to me, then she'll have it, even more. But she couldn't understand. Then she said just tell her what to do!

So I told her to lie down. I sucked her perfect small breasts on milky white skin. She didn't like it. But I gave her a short pause, so she could think of the money on the table. Then I sucked again. Finally I discovered her almost perfect feet. I got into the shower to get a towel to wipe her feet clean. Then I enjoyed them. I told her not to watch and turn around on her tummy. She refused, but put her hand on her eyes. How cute!

I didn't know what she wanted to do: instead of fire and ice, I got a covered warm and warm. I think she got rid of the taste of the condom with the warm water.

After the run 4 run, ejaculation is almost out of the question. So for her it was almost torture. But then again after the run 4 run, I wasn't really hard. Though I punished her enough for the bad start. It wasn't difficult to cum after all. Her face is both beautiful cute and sexy, slanted eyes, thin lips. That's why I called her at top of the list. I think I can cum watching her licking ice cream with her eyes half closed. I would double the price if she would DFK or facial. She wouldn't DFK and I know I couldn't do facial anymore for the rest of the trip. I did several positions and everytime she gave me the look, but did it anyway. After I cum, she didn't push me away, which is not what I expected. I think they really are getting $200 out of $600.

[Badboyit]

Sorry, I know that for you that are surely more expert than me in "this stuff" I seems to be a complete idiot but you now, newbie like me often post idiot questions.

Honestly I'm a newbie even to the forum so.

Well, I've been mongering only in my country (Italy).

Anyway I appreciate your replies Dorasan and Traveler1234.

Of course I will post a report here with full detailed info once I return from my travel.

P.S. I'm also planning a trip to Angeles City (Philippines) in two months so stay tuned ;-)

[Dorasan]

It was after work hours. I know it would bad to go to TST Champaing building. But the one I picked charges $600. I thought there wouldn't be much takers. But I was wrong.

From 141, I know the 1st few floors were full of girls. It was even more than the 141 ad suggested. They cut one normal flat into possibly 6. As far as the eyes can see, "please wait" signs on every door. I brought out my computer and look for the other girls that I copied on the same building. There were two, just as expensive, also hopeless. People are running up and down the stairs looking. The stairs were so busy that they put up a sign on the fire doors, to warn people that they may be hit standing near the doors.

Luckily I had many backup plans. My 1st choice was one local hotel girl that I had been trying to see. I don't know if she is real. The first time when I got there, they said they made a mistake and show me another one. Then her ad is on and of. Today she's only there after 7pm. And I didn't want to wait for the whole afternoon, just to find out that she isn't real.

I had enough of PRC hotel girls, and currently there isn't one that's shocking beautiful.

So I went to Prince Ed, a stable or Accupressure. Or brothels with yellow signs. There's no reason why I went there for the 1st time. It was just convenient travel wise, and MK is too obvious and too easy. The 3 streets are full of them.

This one doesn't have girls on site. It may be a good thing, not trying to sell whatever girls they have. I thought my last one there was a fluke, so I went again to make sure of that. I asked for the same type of girl.

The 1st one wasn't bad, just doesn't look right after a few hotel girls, and looking at all those 141 pictures today. Then another long wait. Then I realized that last time it wasn't a fluke.

She got no makeup and doesn't need it, 18. I mentioned that PRC girls are usually thicker at the thights, maybe due to bicycle riding. But with a short skirt, she looked diving / swimming athelete sexy, or a sexy tennis star. Her skin isn't flawless, with insect bites that sort of things at the lower legs. But her breast is perfect for her age. She has an all round hard body. Her butt can be used as a punch bag. She isn't those slender, skinny delicate girls. But she has curves and no excess fat, flat tummy.

I picked her because she is cute enough to kiss. But in the shower she washed my ass. I knew the last girl short changed me. And I knew it would be a hard decision. Anyway I washed her breasts, and her two holes, just in case whatever I decided.

After I sucked her breast I tried to kiss her, and she didn't resist. Then I do the body kissing only on her flawless skins. All the time I kept a finger inside her tight pussy. Then I couldn't resist to rim her tight ass. After that I DFKed her again. Gross, isn't it? But I couldn't help it.

She kissed me all over, in front of the big bedside mirror. Local hotel girls do a little bit symbolically, and PRC hotel girls skip a lot of things. She is into it, looked convincing. She blew me bare, took care of my balls. All the time she's worrying about my big cock.

Then, I knew it, she rimmed me. After she finished her routine, we DFKed again. Grosser now?

I let her rode me first, as they don't use KY here. Then with two girls in a row, I wonder why I pay that much for pretty pictures instead of tight pussy. When she was wet enough to charge on top, I let her happy for a while and then we changed positions. Again with her multimedia reactions, I had to ask if she was OK. She said she was very comfortable. Then I use full force with no mercy.

Although there is a big mirror, I didn't do doggy or spoon or any other things. Because my brother and my tongue are happy at the same time. After I cum, I lied on top of her and didn't pull out. She waited and asked me if I was done. I said yes. She said there's still time left and encouraged me to rest on top of and inside her. So I began to wonder if the 45 minutes is an all-you-can-eat buffet.

When I pulled out, she asked me to take a shower with her, and then left me alone to finish my cigarette. It was a good thing not to stay there unnecessarily - good for everybody.

[Paisiello]

visited hong kong for a couple of days. i thought it was a great city with fantastic skyscrapers, train service, and food. i stayed at a decent guesthouse in causeway bay, basically a place to sleep and shower and that's it. cost about $40 us per night.

i wanted to eat at che's cantonese restaurant since it was recommended highly in the lonely planet guide. i had difficulty finding it and ended up walking around a bit on lockhart road which turned out to have all the girlie bars. i wasn't sure at first what kind of bars they were but when i was walking past one called "san francisco" or something, i was literally attacked by this older oriental woman who insisted i go inside for one drink. i let her pull me in where i saw a large number of young girls standing around in lingerie. i said "no thanks! maybe later!" and squirmed out of there. i had read that these bars were a big rip off. besides i was hungry.

bascially the same thing happened to me everytime i walked by one of these establishments except i didn't bother going inside. what is peculiar about these places is that they mostly have unattractive older women trying to "force" you inside. maybe i wouldn't have minded too much if they were better looking.

when i finally found che's it turned out to be closed! i was very tired and a little depressed at that point. i walked around the block a little more to see if there was anything else but i felt like good chinese food and nothing i saw appealed to me. i was however very thirsty and decided to go for a drink. there appeared to be some "legitimate" bars that you could actually get a drink at. the one i chose, i can't remember the name of, but it was in the basement and i heard a live band playing "de do do do, de da da da".

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[Paisiello]

There was no cover charge and the place was very crowded. I knew something would be different at this bar when all the oriental women I saw in this place would smile at me. One even tried to grab my arm but I smiled and gently kept pressing through the crowd. I eventually found a place at the bar to order a beer. They had run out of Tsingtao on tap so I ordered a glass of Carlsberg. I hadn’t had a Carlsberg in a while and boy did it taste good after all that walking.

With beer in hand I started to circle around the place. There was a band, filipino probably, that I thought were pretty good. Lots of looks from women made me realize that these girls were definitely working tonight. They almost all looked filipina to me. One girl had a big pair of tits that the sight of caused my dick to springboard in my pants.

I eventually found a table near the music that was free and sat down to enjoy.

Three filipinas strolled by and one of them saw me and immediately asked if they could sit down with me. I said of course but there was only three chairs at the table so one of them ended up standing. I offered the girl my seat but she insisted that I should sit. The first girl was really friendly and decent looking and her other friend was nice looking too but seemed a little shy. The girl standing though was very attractive but she seemed a little distant. All three girls were young, had dynamite little bodies, and wore cute little skirts and tank tops. I started to fantasize about a foursome!

After talking a little bit, it suddenly dawned on me that they were probably expecting me to buy them all a drink. So I offered and they all enthusiastically replied yes. They ordered some really expensive vodka or something and the bill came to $50 US for a round of four drinks (beer re-fill). Oh well, maybe a scam, but I was enjoying myself with the attention of three girls.

All three girls seemed to become very friendly and very flirtatious at this point. The cute girl who was standing against a column suddenly decided to perch her cute little ass on my lap. She was very beautiful with neat jet-black hair and a model-like face. As we all talked, she seemed to enjoy occasionally rubbing up against the hard-on in my pants. At one point she said that she was a drummer for a band in the Philipines and to prove it she commenced to pat my balls strongly to the beat of the music. My cock was super-rock hard at this point.

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[Paisiello]

I probably ended up making a bit of a fool of myself that night as I ended up dancing with all three girls at once and ordering another round of drinks. I’m not sure how or why but at one point the girl on my lap (said her name was Blaney or something) directed my arm that was holding her against my cock under her arm and placed my hand under her shirt to cup her breast. I think this was all discrete but after a while she said her other breast was jealous and promptly placed my other hand on her other breast. They were small but had a nice shape that felt good to hold. She said her tits were mosquito bites but I told her they felt very nice.

I was by now focusing all my attention on Blaney and forgot about the foursome idea. Of course the conversation eventually turned to how much it was going to cost me to fuck her. She said something like HK$1500 for LT and $HK1200 for ST which would be something like US$200 and US$150. I had spent most of my money buying these girls drinks and told her I probably only had HK$1000 for her. She said that that was alright because I seemed like a nice guy and I had also bought her and her friends drinks. Maybe even this was way too much, but she was really hot and I didn’t want to risk bargain hunting that night and end up empty handed.

We stood up to leave and I was trying to disguise the bulge in my pants. The other two girls had already forgot about us and started to flirt with another guy who looked like a tamer version of Phil Spector (but that probably doesn’t mean much). We grabbed a taxi to my hotel. Cost me only HK$30 – very cheap! Snuck past the dozing security guard and took the elevator up to my room. I started to try and do something kinky in the elevator with her but she said “No, there are cameras in here”. Well, I didn’t see anything and I doubted it very much, but I could wait.

Once in, she asked to use the bathroom. They had given me a twin bedroom that night and I laid down on one of them to wait for her. She came out and laid next to me. We just hugged and talked for a bit. She said she had a “manager” that had paid her and her friends way to Hong Kong from the Philipines. She also said she had a two year old son and didn’t know where the father was.

Eventually I grew tired of talking and unzipped my fly to let out my very erect cock. It pointed straight at her, begging for attention like a big, stupid, and hungry dog. She asked if I had a condom. I told her no. She sighed a little and proceeded to suck my dick. It was very nice girl-friend head with lots of little licking and gentle teasing.

But I wanted to have sex with her. We both stripped. She was very petite and had the body of a little girl it seemed. I got on top of her and took a little while before my relatively big cock could slip into her tiny little pussy the entire way. I plowed her until I shot a good load deep inside her. I didn’t want to lie on top of her so I rolled over and she got up and went to use the bathroom again.

We switched beds and again lay there holding each other for a while. I told her she could stay the night or go if she wanted. She was willing to stay the whole night but if it was OK for her to go then she said she would. I was very tired and actually kind of wanted her to leave anyway. We talked a little bit more but, before she could go, I was suddenly re-charged and immediately spread her legs apart to start at her again. This time I started to tire a little since I was taking longer this second time around. Maybe she sensed this and she asked if she could get on top so she could come. I said of course and she climbed on top on top of my cock and started to ride me like a little trooper.

She made a lot of noise though and the bed had started to bang against the walls. I was worried the neighbouring rooms would hear us. I told her that I wanted to do her doggy style, my favourite (and probably most guys’ favourite?). I got her tiny little body leaning over the bed, grabbed her by the waist, and started to stroke delicately in and out of her. I was in heaven. I started to get up on my tip toes to make sure I could push my cock as far inside her as possible. I ended up with a long, body shaking orgasm. I bent over her and squeezed her tits as the last little bit of man-seed squirted out of me. It was great.

We got dressed and I ended up walking with her out of the hotel. I found a taxi for her and gave her her money plus an extra HK$50 to cover the ride back to her room. And with that I will probably never ever see that beautiful little girl again.

It was very late, probably 2:00AM, and I still had not had any dinner. So, in a very good mood, I walked across the street to an open Chinese restaurant and had a plate of Singapore-style fried noodles.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for directions for posting a link to a specific report.

[Taipei Traveller]

Paisiello

Nice report, from what you have said, would imagine the name of the bar was called Fenwicks, normally a good place to go pinay hunting.

[Mmggg]

Can anyone tell me if there are any "video boxes" in Hong Kong? You know the type of place where you pay a certain amount depending on what you want then you are sent to a booth where the girl comes in and does what you paid for while you watch porn.

Thanks

[HornyAsianDawg]

Just thought I would let everyone know that Mong Kok pink light stores on Shanghai St. have gone through another police crack down. I went yesterday to one location only to be told by the police officer that the place is not open for business. I guess I'm lucky that I was told to go away as opposed to being caught in the act. Back to China for mongering tomorrow.

[Hari Hara]

Just thought I would let everyone know that Mong Kok pink light stores on Shanghai St. have gone through another police crack down. I went yesterday to one location only to be told by the police officer that the place is not open for business. I guess I'm lucky that I was told to go away as opposed to being caught in the act. Back to China for mongering tomorrow.

I suspect this is to look for overstayers or some other immigration issue. One time around year 2000 I was in the act in Mongkok when a HK policemen opened the door and asked for ID from both of us. I was in a state of shock. Nothing happened, and the papasan, said it happens, and that they are usually looking for overstayers.

Harihara

[Hat Trick]

Can anyone tell me if there are any "video boxes" in Hong Kong? You know the type of place where you pay a certain amount depending on what you want then you are sent to a booth where the girl comes in and does what you paid for while you watch porn.

Thanks

Mmggg,

Where have you seen this "video box"? in Japan?

I heard about it very vaguely long time ago from a friend, and soapland, I think it was in Japan.

No such thing in HK I'm sure.

HatTrick

[Tiger 888]

I suspect this is to look for overstayers or some other immigration issue. One time around year 2000 I was in the act in Mongkok when a HK policemen opened the door and asked for ID from both of us. I was in a state of shock. Nothing happened, and the papasan, said it happens, and that they are usually looking for overstayers.

HariharaThey are only looking for immigration issues, as the girl needs a valid working permit. Sometimes thy are also into pimping, not an issue for you at all. They would even regularly raid Chungking and Mirador Mansions at 4 in the morning to check IDs in all guest houses.

[FurryFriend]

I suspect this is to look for overstayers or some other immigration issue. One time around year 2000 I was in the act in Mongkok when a HK policemen opened the door and asked for ID from both of us. I was in a state of shock. Nothing happened, and the papasan, said it happens, and that they are usually looking for overstayers.

Harihara

Why the heck didn't the papasans sitting outside give a warning?

[Lance Alot]

Can anyone tell me if there are any "video boxes" in Hong Kong? You know the type of place where you pay a certain amount depending on what you want then you are sent to a booth where the girl comes in and does what you paid for while you watch porn.

ThanksI know the type of video boxes that you are talking about, but I have never seen anything like this in Hong Kong.

L.A.

[Smoke The Boss]

Hey my fellow shaggers,

I just returned from one of my regular trips to Wan Chi.......and all I can say is Holy Shit. I spent most nights at either Fenwicks or Neptune 2 just near Luk Kwok Hotel. Both places are crawling with some of the finest Columbians I have ever placed my eyes on.

They seem to double in numbers each time I'm there.

Sampled two fine ladies at $1000 HK for a couple of hours.

I'll post a more detailed report when I finally get back home.

I should have taken a few snaps!

Happy Days.

STB

[Dorasan]

Most 141 hotel reservation girls do incall. Certainly some local girls do outcall only or both, only decent hotels, hourly or not. Even for incall hotel girls, I think they are happy to go to your room if you get a hourly (2 hr) room in the hotel they are staying.

[Smoke The Boss]

Hey Husky,

Can't catch up tonight as I'm in Singapore for a few days (off to the 4 floors tonight). Will be back next weekend.

Is Vanessa one of the Columbian chicks or a local?

I paid the Columbians from Neptunes and Fenwick $1000 each. Most of them start at around $2000 but when they know you know the game it's quickly reduced.

Hell, I would have paid $2000 for some of the ones in Neptunes on Tuesday night, especially this one little fox with black hair. She was out of this world with a killer body.

I missed out on one the other night so I'm going back for her next Sunday. As they say in the classics. "I have unfinished business"

Happy Days,

STB

[Dorasan]

Does Columbians here speak English? Just a market study. How much does a Columbian girl cost in Columbia? A Philipina in Philipines?

[WeaverWorld]

Just want to strike a blow for the Saunas in Northpoint, they are actually quite good and not in Kowloon :)

My favourite that I frequent is the Carnival Sauna on Kings road in North Point, it's a very good establishment they charge you 740 for massage, sauna and HJ and they do undress fully, I especially like that since most establishments won't, for example the 1000 Lake Sauna in Wan Chai even if one of the girls do let you touch her extensively.

FS is available at Carnival, I believe the price to be just over 1000 HKD, not 100% though since I never went for it, I enjoy the massage, BM and HJ too much. Staff is very curtious and they speak good English, I get a bit extra attention since I have been in a couple of times now, there is this one petite Chinese girl that I especially like to partake of since she has fairly large breasts for a Chinese, treat the girls well and chat a bit with them and they will go the extra mile, especially for repeat business.

[Mc Fly XXX]

In addition to the well known www.******.com you could check these sites

http://www.xgirl161.com
http://www.love181.com
http://www.best161.com.hk
http://www.wet123.com

Most of them are in chinese only!

[Pointpanic]

In addition to the well known www.******.com you could check these sites

http://www.xgirl161.com
http://www.love181.com
http://www.best161.com.hk
http://www.wet123.com

Most of them are in chinese only!The other one in english is www.161sex.com

[Smoke The Boss]

They have limited english but all understand the universal language of "smoke the boss"

I also noticed a couple of fine looking African ladies in Fenwicks the other night...both had great racks!


Pretty broken English , about as bad as some Thais!

[Mmggg]

I'm looking for some suggestions.

I'll be going to HK later this year and wanted to know how I would go about calling a place which will send a girl to my hotel room who will get into the spa bath with me and the like. What are your recommendations.

[Ks457]

Hi fellow mongers.

Newly arrived in HK, about 3 weeks now. And first of all, thank you to those who have diligently posted regarding the mongering scene in HK...it's been very informative.

So I've read through a good part of the post (still many many more to go, I guess), and know about the 141, 161, K-pressure, Fenwicks/Neptune(so on and so forth), yellow sign MK brothels, Jordans, Sun Hot, Ocean Dragon and all that. But actually I'm looking for a provider who gives a good massage (60-90 min), for <=300 in the nude (or something close to it), and will let you touch.

I actually don't want the full package, and looking for just a massage + hj. I searched through 141.com and found quite a few that does, but the site does not say specifically whether the HJ part will be in the nude, or whether I can touch. I may not want ML, but I still want my hands to roam!

If you experienced mongers, or ppl who have looked for similar can provide some guidance, it would be much appreciated it, and I'll return by posting my experience on the forum. Thanks!

[Superforce99]

Hi fellow mongers.

Newly arrived in HK, about 3 weeks now. And first of all, thank you to those who have diligently posted regarding the mongering scene in HK...it's been very informative.

So I've read through a good part of the post (still many many more to go, I guess), and know about the 141, 161, K-pressure, Fenwicks/Neptune(so on and so forth), yellow sign MK brothels, Jordans, Sun Hot, Ocean Dragon and all that. But actually I'm looking for a provider who gives a good massage (60-90 min), for <=300 in the nude (or something close to it), and will let you touch.

I actually don't want the full package, and looking for just a massage + hj. I searched through 141.com and found quite a few that does, but the site does not say specifically whether the HJ part will be in the nude, or whether I can touch. I may not want ML, but I still want my hands to roam!

If you experienced mongers, or ppl who have looked for similar can provide some guidance, it would be much appreciated it, and I'll return by posting my experience on the forum. Thanks!


I can tell you now that most of the gals on 141 give BS massages, even the
ones that specialize in massages. A standard rule I've heard and agree with
in HK/China is that if you want a good massage place, then go to a massage
place. If you want good FS, then go to a FS place. There are a few rare
places where both co-exist, but none that come to mind now. The 141-style
gals give OK massages at best, kind of like a girlfriend who really likes you
but doesn't know anything about massage trying to give you a massage. Not
bad, but not exactly good, either...know what I mean? Anyway, that's how
I would describe the two 141 massage experiences I've had.

Here's how I would do it: go to a lower-priced 141-type gal and ask her for a
massage AFTER she takes off her clothes (I guess you can pantomime massage
with your two hands) and you should then have a nude girl giving you a crappy
massage and whom you can molest all you want. Then you'll probably have
to pantomime handjob with one of your hands when you want her to finish
you off. She'll probably think you're weird and/or appreciate the break from
the daily penile onslaught at her vagina/mouth. Enjoy, I guess.


J

[Idler31]

I'm looking for some suggestions.

I'll be going to HK later this year and wanted to know how I would go about calling a place which will send a girl to my hotel room who will get into the spa bath with me and the like. What are your recommendations.Well, Mmggg, to be honest it doesn't really work like that in HK.

Yeh, of course, you *can* phone up any of the escort agencies in the Yellow Pages; they'll send a girl to your room, and she'll cheerfully join you in the tub. But you'll pay way, way over the odds for it, and the girl will probably be of low quality, either in terms of looks, service, or both.

The right answer is to get off yer arse and go out fishing. Go to Fenwicks, or Dusk 'til Dawn, or Neptunes, or New Makati (all in Wan Chai), or Sticky Fingers in Tsim Sha Tsui. There you can choose your own girl from a veritable smorgasbord of Thais, Filipinas, Latinas, and maybe (if you're very lucky) the odd Chinese one. Agree a price (which will be way less than the escort agencies), mention a nice relaxing spa, and she'll be in the taxi back to your hotel in no time.

HK hotels are generally girl-friendly, so no fears on that score.

And after all's said and done, give her the money, show her the door, and post here to tell us about it, 'kay?

[JoseMarti]

Hi,

Here are some pics I took on my last trip. Some in the city, some at the airport.

http://beta.pixsense.com/marti/

[Idler31]

Hi fellow mongers.

Newly arrived in HK, about 3 weeks now. And first of all, thank you to those who have diligently posted regarding the mongering scene in HK...it's been very informative.

So I've read through a good part of the post (still many many more to go, I guess), and know about the 141, 161, K-pressure, Fenwicks/Neptune(so on and so forth), yellow sign MK brothels, Jordans, Sun Hot, Ocean Dragon and all that. But actually I'm looking for a provider who gives a good massage (60-90 min), for <=300 in the nude (or something close to it), and will let you touch.Ah, you've touched on a favourite subject of mine. It is true that 141 girls generally suck at massage; they rub a bit here and there but generally want to get down to the main event, and get you out of the door. Some saunas provide decent-ish massage (Jordan Sauna, as long as you don't mind squalor; Sands; Ocean Dragon at Causeway Bay, except it's name has changed and I can't remember the new one) but they have fixed protocols and you won't normally get naked massage from them.

I too like naked massage: the feel of a clammy bush squirming on the small of my back while my shoulders are palpitated is unique. My recommendation is to go and try some of the providers in National Court, Jordan. A number of my pals, and myself, have had some degree of success there in persuading the providers to do a nice long naked massage with lots of touchy-feely and a simple happy ending. The massages have been enthusiastic, even if not actually skilled. I'm afraid I've not been for a while so I have no specific girls to recommend, but nonetheless that is where I suggest you begin your search. Good luck!

[Ks457]

Idler31,

Indeed that is why I asked, because I think I saw your post a whlie back asking for the same, but didn't see a response to it. I probably am going to try National Court, as well as a few other ones that say "massage+hj (90min)",at least on their 141 posting anyway.

I just wanted to see if I should expect to be disappointed. But Johnnykon666 below is right though. It's hard to find the two combination co-existing usually. But in case there was a provider who does something close to it, just wanted to know. In Korea right now, the "in" thing is so-called "college girl massages" where women in their early-mid 20s will give a half-assed massage for 30 mins, then get nude (usually) for the happy ending, for the cost of HK$500. If any other fellow mongers knows of a good provider, please lemme know. gracias


Ah, you've touched on a favourite subject of mine. It is true that 141 girls generally suck at massage; they rub a bit here and there but generally want to get down to the main event, and get you out of the door. Some saunas provide decent-ish massage (Jordan Sauna, as long as you don't mind squalor; Sands; Ocean Dragon at Causeway Bay, except it's name has changed and I can't remember the new one) but they have fixed protocols and you won't normally get naked massage from them.

I too like naked massage: the feel of a clammy bush squirming on the small of my back while my shoulders are palpitated is unique. My recommendation is to go and try some of the providers in National Court, Jordan. A number of my pals, and myself, have had some degree of success there in persuading the providers to do a nice long naked massage with lots of touchy-feely and a simple happy ending. The massages have been enthusiastic, even if not actually skilled. I'm afraid I've not been for a while so I have no specific girls to recommend, but nonetheless that is where I suggest you begin your search. Good luck!

[JohnTodd]

I will be in HK later this month staying at the Sheraton Hotel, can anyone advise if there are take out places on the HK side of the bay. I usually stay at the Shangri La and that is convient to Lockhart Street.
Thanks.

[John Smart]

I reported before on "Q girl" when she was at Rm B, Flat E, 5/F, Foremost Bldg No.19-21 Jordan Rd, Jordan. She was formerly "Carmen" from K Pressure.

Great service -- not an amazing face, but great figure, lovely pairs of tits, very friendly, excellent (naked) massage, great BBBJ, CIM fine, BBBJ in the shower, and if you blow once and are up for it again, she'll do you a second time on the bed later.
I've tried and have managed to and not managed to if you get my drift, depending on me!

The "Q girl" thing didnt work out (as of May) so she joined one of K Pressure's sister estabs -- Doh Lee Loi, 3/F, 37 Dundas St. 2771-5232.

Didnt like it there so as of July is now freelance in Jordan again. She's now "Amy", Flat B, 8/F, No. 66, Parkes St., Jordan, 9169 7268.
http://www.******.com/eng/view_id-14367.html
Parkes St is jsut around the corner from KP actually.

Now has a schoolgirl uniform that she'll put on for you too.
And she does give a hard work, thoro, massage if you ask her (she used to be a masseuse).
She likes to be neat and tidy -- her room's good.

"Amy" is well worth a shot ($350 usu for 45 mins; Id tip her if you stay longer, have a good massage etc, but she doesnt expect it).

I sound like her agent, dont I!

Actually I've been seeing her for year or more. Tell her John sent you; that'll tickle her -- I told her I'd "tell my friends" :-)

JS

[Bania]

I reported before on "Q girl" when she was at Rm B, Flat E, 5/F, Foremost Bldg No.19-21 Jordan Rd, Jordan. She was formerly "Carmen" from K Pressure.

Actually I've been seeing her for year or more. Tell her John sent you; that'll tickle her -- I told her I'd "tell my friends" :-)

JSDoes she understand English?

[BJK]

I will be in HK later this month staying at the Sheraton Hotel, can anyone advise if there are take out places on the HK side of the bay. I usually stay at the Shangri La and that is convient to Lockhart Street.
Thanks.

I don't think I have heard someone refer to Kowloon side as Hong Kong side. I always refer to either Island side or Kowloon side. If you just say Hong Kong side I would have assume you would mean "Hong Kong Island" side except I know the Sheraton is not on the Island.

In any case you might want to try Sticky Fingers bar or there will be more expensive girls in the hotel bars. There are not the numbers as there are in Wan Chai

BJK

[Bania]

I reported before on "Q girl" when she was at Rm B, Flat E, 5/F, Foremost Bldg No.19-21 Jordan Rd, Jordan. She was formerly "Carmen" from K Pressure.

Actually I've been seeing her for year or more. Tell her John sent you; that'll tickle her -- I told her I'd "tell my friends" :-)

JSJohn,

Does she speak / understand English?

Bania

[Gman7424]

I don't think I have heard someone refer to Kowloon side as Hong Kong side. I always refer to either Island side or Kowloon side. If you just say Hong Kong side I would have assume you would mean "Hong Kong Island" side except I know the Sheraton is not on the Island.

In any case you might want to try Sticky Fingers bar or there will be more expensive girls in the hotel bars. There are not the numbers as there are in Wan Chai

BJKThe advcie you have above is correct. Then there is the Haris Bar at the Holiday Inn Golden Mile about a 5 minute walk from the Sheraton.

Enjoy

[John Smart]

Does she speak / understand English?

Bania[/QUOTE]Nah, not a word I'm afraid, Bania. Doesnt matter a jot or a squirt tho!

John

[JohnTodd]

Thanks for the help. When I stay at the Shangri La I usually walk to Lockheart Rd, but this time I will be accross the bay at the Sheraton. I have been to the usual places, but not Stiky Fingers, Is that on the Sheraton side of the bay?

[DRRonin]

I will be hitting HK for only a few days later this week and have been trying to do as much research as I can on the 141 girls but still have a few basic questions.

With only a limited amount of time I have narrowed the buildings to visit to four that seemed to have a high number of girls listed in the 141 site and ones that looked fairly high quaility in general - these are:

Champagne Court A & B
James S. Lee Mansions
Fook Kiu Mansions
Fuji Building

Does that make sense to most people or are there some others that I should look into?

Also when I go to these buildings I assume the listings on the web site is only a small pct of the girls in the biz - is there anyway to know which ones are in it vs people who simply reside in the bld - is there a telltale sign? Also I understand if they are occupied they put a sign out that says "Busy" - is that in English?

Is payment upfront the expected form or afterwards? Also is covered BJ the norm or is that negotiable?

I had been hoping to do a Macau/Zhuhei trip but the 2 day visa need and my small window of opportunity made that impossible - but I expect HK will be fun as well.

Re: the phone appt girls - I have read most people saying that it is overpriced and not any better than the apt girls but I am particularly intrigued by the Japanese girls mentioned - even as expensive as they are - its still cheaper than flying to Japan - has anyone tried these and have any recommendations?

Thanks for everyone's help.

[Acer V]

You ask some good questionsand I don't mind sharing some of what I know.

Your list of buildings are a good start. In my experience the one's with many girls are also busier than the others. You are guaranteed to have a lot of johns hanging around waiting their turn most times of the day. You may want to take a few of the smaller buildings addresses nearby also to check out.

I would not say the 141 sites list only a SMALL percentage of the girls in the buildings. My guess is that if you look at all the websites you will see MOST of the girls but not necessarily all of them from the more well known buildings.

The tell tale signs for the working girls are the red lights and signs on the doors. The sign usually says Welcome on one side and Busy - Please Wait on the other. In my experience about 50% of the time it is in Chinese only.

I would agree with the comments about the overpriced phone appointment and hotel-based girls. They are arguably prettier but I have not experienced any stunners worthy of the much higher fees. More often than not the service is sub-par.

Happy hunting and please remember to give us a report on your travels!

[Bania]

John,

I tried to have a meeting with Amy. I arrived there at 10:15 pm and went to the 8th floor. But, while there were two flats with A on them, there was none with B written. So, I rang the bells - one did not get answered and old man answered the other one. So, I guess I now know where B is - the one on the left across from the lift.

Anyway, I tried the phone number and got a voice. I asked her to open the door and she said "I don't know, I don't know". So, I gave up.

Will try again sometime later. Gotta find out somehow when the best time is to get her. It's a bummer to get there and to have to wait for a slot to clear up.

Bummed out for today.

Bania

[Manfest]

I had been hoping to do a Macau/Zhuhei trip but the 2 day visa need and my small window of opportunity made that impossible - but I expect HK will be fun as well.HK will be fun, true.

Macau, however, also does NOT require a visa, and is only one ferry ride away (about an hour), which leaves pretty much around the clock. People take day trips, or stay overnight at a sauna or casino doing "things". This is by no means an endorsement, but just be aware it is a completely different experience in Macau compared to HK. Zhuhai is in PRC, and you definitely need a visa.

Hope that helps,

-M

[John Smart]

John,

I tried to have a meeting with Amy. I arrived there at 10:15 pm and went to the 8th floor. But, while there were two flats with A on them, there was none with B written. So, I rang the bells - one did not get answered and old man answered the other one. So, I guess I now know where B is - the one on the left across from the lift.

BaniaHmm. Sorry to hear that Bania. I had no probs -- lift to 8/F and there was 8B.

Wonder if it was 8/F but 'gau lau' (9/F in Cantonese?), altho I'm sure I pressed 8 in the lift. You sure you went into 66 Parkes st? -- the long corridor in that old building opposite the McShit?

Yeah, she dont speak English so the phone wdnt work.

John

[Launchnow]

Hi All,

I am coming to HK for 3 days (arriving Friday HK time 6pm) before heading to mainland China. I am staying at the Guangdong Hotel in TST.

Anyone want to grab a beer that is in the area? PM me, I will check my PM's when I arrive at the hotel. Maybe I can wing man for you if you want to cruise some bars too LOL.

Cheers,

Launch

[Bodempjemichael]

Hi everybody !

Anyone have any recent experiences with bringing ladies to your hotel ?

I will be staying at the cosmopolitan in the south of the Wan Chai area... Is this hotel in walking distance of Fenwicks, Neptunes etc, and does anyone know if I it is GF friendly?

Thanks !

[Stargm]

Hi everybody !

Anyone have any recent experiences with bringing ladies to your hotel ?

I will be staying at the cosmopolitan in the south of the Wan Chai area... Is this hotel in walking distance of Fenwicks, Neptunes etc, and does anyone know if I it is GF friendly?

Thanks !You will have no problem with the hotel but it's too far to walk to Fenwicks and Neptune. It will be a HK$20 taxi ride.

Not much action around your hotel.

Enjoy!

[John Smart]

Went to see Sa Sa in Mong Kok recently.

This is the 'drama queen' that Dorasan refers to in his usual enigmatic, I-know-the-address-but-wont-tell-you style.


The drama queen I mentioned, she is in rm C. How many building with 3 girls in one floor, two with uniform pictures on? Though the English version just say professional service, but if you translate the Chinese version (babel fish remember?), it says everything that I told you. Those who guessed are all correct. If you guess wrong, I will give you the correct one. Can't reply to everybody.

I mean -- why cant we just give the details?? OK, OK, different agenda ...

Anyway, SaSa is in Flat 1317C, 13/F, Sun Hing Building, 607 Nathan Road, Mong Kok. [And, Bania, it is button '13' in the lift, case you get lost :-) ]

Sez she's there 12-11, altho you can never really tell.

Doesnt have a word of English, but thats no impediment.

http://www.******.com/eng/view_id-475.html

Theres a whole bunch of lifts in this big building. Enter from Nathan Rd and the set of lifts you want is to your left.

Sasa is probably around 30 Id guess. A good-looking well-honed body with a nice pair of tits (a bit fake-ish as Dorasan points out), altho not balloons stuck on her chest; they look good. Sez she works out and swims a lot.

Not too bad looking but could do with a bit of dental work. The red light helps hide that a bit, so no prob. But it's a real fun experience. The room is full of uniforms - not SM stuff, but nurses, schoolgirls, frilly nightdresses etc. After the shower, you choose your uniform and she models it, struts around and then does you in it. And at no extra charge -- the girls in Observatory rd have a $50 or more 'uniform extra' charge.

Nice BBBM with mouthwash in the shower, 2-way rimming on bed, good BBBJ. And she squeaks 'appreciatively' w/o overdoing it. Not rushed, took her 45 mins or a bit more even with me.

And then as you're about to leave she opens a well-stocked fridge and offers you a beer or water or whatever. Now thats service!

And all for $300.

Quite a giggle I haveta say :-)

JS

[Manfest]

Anyone have any recent experiences with bringing ladies to your hotel ?

I will be staying at the cosmopolitan in the south of the Wan Chai area... Is this hotel in walking distance of Fenwicks, Neptunes etc, and does anyone know if I it is GF friendly?I stayed there about a year ago. It is walking distance to Fenwicks, but the roads are not a straight shot, have a good map or be ready to walk a bit. Probably safer to grab a cab.

Cosmopolitan has wireless internet access in the lobby area, so people are hanging out there at all hours of the night. Also, there is a guard posted in the lobby. Despite that, unless you make trouble or a lot of noise, or the girl is dressed as a complete *****, no one should give you any trouble. Hopefully this hasn't changed in the past year.

Have fun!

M

[Launchnow]

Hi,

Need some advice from anyone who has some wisdom in this area.

I am trying to get my US cell phone "unlocked" so I can put in a chinese SIM card.

I found one store on Nathan rd that said they will unlock my phone for around $50 USD. Anyone done this?

I guess I am worried that they may screw up my phone. As I have a ton of phone numbers stored both on my own SIM card and also the phone's internal memory..

So, does anyone have any experience getting their phone unlocked? Successful?

Thanks all

[DRRonin]

A friend and I flew into Hong Kong around 3:30 and had checked into the hotel and were ready to hit the 141's by 5pm or so. In the past I had always been a bit intimidated by these apartment brothel set ups but this time thanks to information on this board, some time spent on the 141 site and a comrade in arms I felt like perhaps I had a chance to get lucky.

With only 3 days in HK (and 2 in Macau) we have limited time and so have focused our selections on four main buildings with a couple minor ones as well. In each case we went through the 141 pictures with a scientific eye and jotted down names, floors and apartment numbers of all the suspects who we would knock on the doors of and question. I really had no idea what sort of reception or situation I was getting myself into and was expecting to come away with little more than the satisfaction of having given it a try. I have never been with a Chinese girl and at a minimum I wanted to break that streak.

First on the list was Champagne Court A and B at 18 Kimberly Road. This was fairly easy to find to my surprise - as you walk down Kimberly you will come to a little U-horse shaped arcade that is filled with camera shops - at one end of the U is A and at the other is B - both with elevators ready to take you up to your house of dreams.Or at least a tiny little room that would make claustrophobics think twice before entering. The biggest group of names was in B on the 7th floor so up we ascended. This was a fun floor as it turned out - the girls were more than welcoming as they often popped open their doors and tried to drag us in with sweet messages of mass-a-ge. I found out later that they have a security set up that allows them to monitor the hallway and any incoming missles - so they are ready to pounce. A couple of them spoke English and took us on a guided tour when we mentioned that this was our first time doing this explaining the set up and talking about the girls. It is simple indeed - on their door was a sign saying either "Welcome" or "Do Not Disturb" or something to that effect. If it's "Welcome" you ring the buzzer and it is usually opened by a smiling face within a few seconds - they are used to people smiling and saying no thanks so no offense is taken - they understand that people are window shopping first before making their decisions.

So the access of the 141's was the good news - the less than stellar news though was that the girls opening the doors were not nearly as good looking as the girls in the photos on the site (in many instances they actually have the picts taped to their door but almost always with faces blurred out - which they were not on the site). We only took down the info of girls who were not blurred out and that both of us gave a big "Holy shit yes - put her down". In the photos these were major major hotties - in person they were pretty average on the whole and looked to be at least 5 years older than the age given on the site. I hadn't brought any of the picts with me so I could not do a photo for face comparison - so whether these were the same girls (though many did indeed go by the same name) photo shopped to look much younger or were substitutes I can't say. I am not saying the girls were ugly by any means - many had what seemed to be fine bodies - but they were not what I was hoping for. I had expected a little help with the lighting, makeup and poses in the photos - but this was a big difference in both of our opinions.

We checked out two other floors in the building - the third and the fourth - both less busy with no girls milling about as they were on the 7th - knocked on a few doors - saw a couple that made the ok list but again not blown away. Then we moved over to Court A on the 7th floor where we had a bunch of names - but almost all were busy or the gated door was closed which I assume means they are away. We had put an asterik next to Cat's name in Flat A as being special but she was busy which bummed out my friend who really liked her pict - just as we were leaving though her door opened and I gave her a quick look - as well as noticing the naked guy spread eagle on her bed - and she looked fairly nice.

I should mention that in these hours of looking - 5:30 to 7pm - there were only a very few other customers (all Chinese) also perusing the goods. In the end I took a girl in Court B on the 4th floor - the name Nanako is on the door - leading me to wildly dream that she would be Japanese - but not so - her real name was something like Hun-ju. Not a beauty, but a big smile - maybe around 26 - a tiny bit fleshy but nice breasts. It turned out to be a good choice - very sweet with no English - but she took her time with a shower - nice hard massage that lasted a good 20 minutes - to the point where I began wondering if that was all I was getting - but then the little kisses on the back began - and light touches of the testicles - then I turned over and the kisses on my body continued (nothing on the mouth btw) - and rubbing her breasts up and down on me - and then a condom on -and a solid bj with good attention payed to the balls the way I like it. Then insertion. She did a bit too much screaming for my taste - so obviously faked and loud that it kind of distracted me and I wish my sock was nearby so that I could have stuffed it into her mouth - but still it was a fine experience for HK$500 with a tip of $HK100. My friend took a girl in Court A, 7th floor - not Cat sadly - but he was basically satisfied though she just skipped the whole massage routine and went straight to the main feature.

Afterwards we went for dinner and then decided to hit one more buidling - first we looked for James Lee Mansions at 33-35 Carnavone St but could not find it - I suspect it is down this dark alley that neither of us felt like exploring in the dark and moved on to Fook Kiu Mansion at 34-36 Cameron St. This place is easy to find - a big blue building with a massage place on the first floor.The apts seem to be on a bunch of floors and once we realized this we just walked from floor to floor to explore - but most of the action seemed to be on 5. By now it was about 9:30 and there were lots of guys knocking on doors and we were all smiling at one another like little boys out trick or treating. What surprised me was how young they were - I would have expected guys in their 40's and 50's sneaking away from their wives for an hour or two - but these were all young guys in their 20's - hell some looked like they were teenagers. The reception here though was a much more surley one - maybe it was getting late or there were just too many guys - but there were no friendly welcomes - no come ons - just a grunt and the door closed in my face. The girls looked prettier than at Champagne Court but definitely were not in a good mood. So we ended up doing nothing and by that time the heat and humidity had worn us down and we called it quits for the night. Today we are starting off at Fuji and then will give a daytime look for James Lee Mansions - with a whole day we should have some fun.

Btw - this is the wrong secion I know but there seems to be tons of cross-over between HK and Macau - other than the girls in the Lisboa - who my friend assures me are better looking and younger than the girls we saw yesterday - are there any other freelancer hangouts in Macau? Thanks.

[Dorasan]

Sa Sa, it's a personal choice that I don't like to give out too simple details. For one it looks like advertisement; I don't have a share of Neptune for example. More importantly, I may see her again, so I don't want to create a long line on her already busy schedule.

Unlock phone: as I understand it, the US uses a different GSM "band". So your phone should be 3-band, instead of 2-band for the rest of world. I have no idea whether the US phones only works in US or all are 3-bands.

The only reason you want to unlock your phone is that you love your sophisticated phone too much and can't live without it. So for the same reason I rather not let the black market technicians break it open.

For 50 USD I can get a new phone in US, full price, not subsidized price. The one I'm using is 40 - no camera that strip clubs will approve, but thin and small. You can get a new one starting at 150+ HKD in HK but big and ugly. 300+ HKD gives you a decent size one. However, nobody sells these phones as it does not worth any body's time to sell them. They have very pretty girls soliciting you to buy those 1000+ 3G phones and students use them.

But if you go to MTR Sham Shui Po, the whole street right outside the exit sell 2nd hand phones (and new 3G phones). Again starting at 100+ and for 300 you get thin small ones with decent battery live. 300 HKD is less than 40 USD.

Broadband in HK is taking off only in recent years. It's cheaper than US because any buildings less than 20 year's old share TV antenna, which means each room is wired like cable TV 20 years ago. You just bring broadband to the building and you get hundreds of customers. The details may not be so simple, but they don't need to wire each home. The outlet they have been using 20 years for TV is now for broadband as well.

Almost all parents want their children to have broadband access from kindergarten. Only very poor parents cannot not afford broadband for high school students. As a result, many 141 hunters looked very young. It's very easy to save up 300 to learn more about sex. If they go to other more public establishments, they just stand out from the john crowd and people would make fun of them.

The internet offers some sort of screening. Organized people is not likely to have a computer and use it regularly. Same for blue collars and middle agers who don't know much about computers. Actually there's some sort of guides on sale in newspaper stalls to help these people: the guides contain information from the internet 141 sites.

[DRRonin]

As a quick follow-up to my last posting, my friend and I hit 2 more 141's today but it was much more of the same. First we went to Causeway Bay and fairly easily found the Fuji Bld and began up on the 22nd floor and worked our way down - twice - good exercise on a hot day and a few lbs were sacrificed for the good of mankind. Every floor is in the business so to speak - but most floors only ranged from 3-6 small apts per floor - a very skinny bld indeed. Many were "busy" but there was still plenty to sample from. We went down the first time just to browse without making any committment and then went back again to give it another go. Again, the girls did not begin to look as good as the pictures and the old adage hit me at some point - if it looks too good to be true it probably is - the girls on the 141 site are just way too hot to be true - at least for HK$500! Also I began wondering where the 141 Girls fell in the P4P pyramid and my guess is somewhere above street walkers and maybe massage girls but below KTV and nightclub girls. Then it would make sense that all these young Chinese guys were roaming the halls - this is the best they could afford. But I don't really have a clue. This didn't stop me from finding one though - a girl who spoke a bit of English and had been to Canada. No massage with this one - pretty much straight to business and pretty routine. I got the impression she had a clock going on in her head - ok 2 minutes for this - 3 minutes for this and so on - not inspired sex but certainly doable. She too was a screamer - gee I must be really good at this - and my friend who was still making the rounds told me he came by and saw two Chinese guys listening at the door - interesting way to get your kicks and cheap too! They were probably having more fun than I was!

Later we went to look for the James Lee Mansion Bld again and oddly found it very easily this time - not sure why we were so confused last night - but its near the end of Carnevon St. . Five or six floors in this one with an old security guard downstairs who wanted to know what we were up to - probably the same thing every other guy that came by was, pops. Hardly anyone was in or it was "Busy" and in truth I was just being curious and not really looking to join in - but my friend was and he found the Apple of his eye and went with her. She was actually fairly cute and felt like the only girl I saw who looked to be under 25. He had a decent time. Back at the Fuji Bld he had run into a fellow monger who he fell into conversation with - it began with the guy saying "pretty disappointing huh?. These girls look nothing like their pictures do they but I had heard on a Chinese board that they had a new young one and so I came by but no luck". When my friend said we were looking for younger, he suggested going to Langham Plaza after midnight to get young Mainland girls who just hung out. Any one come across this? We didn't take the gauntlet up tonight. I was feeling tired but again my friend was looking for more so he gave the Hotel Reservation girls from the 141 site a go. These are the girls where in theory you have to call them and they give you the place and time like some sort of clandestine meeting of secret agents. We had some beauties on the list - in particular Snow who basically inspired us to come to HK. Of course by this time I was highly suspect of the pictures and didn't want to chance a pocketful of money and time in pursuit of a mirage. He called 2 numbers - Snow and another - in both instances a guy answered - "what girl do you want" - gave him the name - "what time " - gave him a time "what hotel are you in so we can send her". At this point my friend felt a bit at ends - I had told him that I had read that you went somewhere - they didn't deliver and I had also told him about the Escort extortion posts -so he was sure it would either be this or bait and switch - what were the chances that Snow would be available on a Saturday night at an hours notice. I wish he had pulled the trigger because I was going to hang out in the hallway to meet Snow and if she was the real deal take her to my room! Or at a minimum listen at his door!

I don't want to sound too negative about these girls - its more that I had unrealistic expectations due to the picts. I am sure with a bit of patience and time you can find some really nice ones - and after 3 weeks in Thailand I was perhaps spoiled by the girls and the more unstructured sex.

Snow:
http://******.com/eng/view_id-14874.html

[Dorasan]

Snow - most PRC girls in that $800 price range looks reasonable compared to their pictures. But often they don't have makeup on when they open the door. They are young and they shower every hr. While they always have heavy make up in the pictures. Also, that is an unusual studio pictures, while most girls have pictures taken at their hotel.

The locals are talking about taking 30% off the pictures. In US, it's taking 90% off the pictures.

PRC girls all have a hotel room to meet you. Did you ask her to come to you? Bad.

[Ohmygosh]

Sorry to hear about the 141 disappointment Ronin, you'll have a much better time in Macau. Make sure to hit the parade in Lisboa, there are definitly some good catches there, you just have to keep your eyes open. One girl I almost wanted to keep and bring home, she looked like the twin sister of zhang ziyi. Just go into one of the restaurants and wait until you see one you like, else you be hounded by a swarm of unwantables.

[Hong Kong Boy]

I bought a sim card at Temple street (don't know the store name). They unlock the cell-phone for free!

[Traveler1234]

Hi,

Need some advice from anyone who has some wisdom in this area.

I am trying to get my US cell phone "unlocked" so I can put in a chinese SIM card.

I found one store on Nathan rd that said they will unlock my phone for around $50 USD. Anyone done this?

Thanks all

A google search will tell you where to go...it shouldn't cost more than $25 usually.

And/or - why not ask your US provider to 'unlock' for you....TMO is very obliging, Cingular can be a pain unless you've been their client for at least 90 days.

[Launchnow]

A google search will tell you where to go...it shouldn't cost more than $25 usually.

And/or - why not ask your US provider to 'unlock' for you....TMO is very obliging, Cingular can be a pain unless you've been their client for at least 90 days.Thanks, I actually just realized it too about TMO- I called them and they are supposed to email me the unlock code.

Thanks again

[Tingle Tree]

When I was in Hong Kong recently, I wanted a no nonsense way to satisfy my urges. In the past I have tried to search 141 or 161 sites or hung out at Hari's with TST as my base. I've even resorted to the occasional SW with good and bad results.

I was happy to use Hari’s Bar at the Holiday Inn Golden Mile as a place to ‘chill out’, have a drink and listen to the great music. If I met a lady and clicked, then so be it. In the past, it’s been a bit of cat and mouse (not to mention expensive when the claws were in) at Hari’s so I decided to check K Pressure and was glad I did.

Thanks to the forum, I was able to find the Jordan location but was confused when I approached the entrance downstairs to find an old guy at the desk. I asked about massage and he directed me back outside. Confused and after looking around, I decided to check again. In fact you need to ask for karaoke or just ignore the guy and trot upstairs.

I visited K Pressure on 8 different occasions. Usually the mamasan would bring a lady who was suitable for my needs first up. On two instances I viewed three ladies before making my choice. I did comment that they seem to have lots of lovelies. I was informed they had about 30 girls.

On my first visit, I asked for Tong Tong based on the recommendations of other punters. At first I thought she was a bit plain but she can melt your heart with a real GFE. Next visit was Yang Yan who was not up to Tong Tong’s efforts but still OK.

Returning the following week, I had Su Q but she was on a par with Yang Yan providing a satisfactory service. A real treat was a lovely lady from Guangzhi with huge tits – I had to rate Hoi Man as 10 out of 10. My second visit with Tong Tong also rated a 10 out of 10 performance. All of the above were PRC ladies.

The exception was Tsz Kwan (She Gwan) a Hong Kong girl with a fuller figure. She apologised for being fat (not really) with a lovely full, busty and soft figure. Her level of English was a relief as it allowed actual conversation. She was an 8 out of 10.

I also had a repeat run with Hoi Man who was delighted to see me a second time. And she certainly didn’t disappoint.

Each visit followed a similar routine with some slight variation at my request. A great shower with all parts washed squeaky clean. The in shower BBBJ was delightfully complimented with the use of warm water.

Shifting to the bed and face down meant a total tongue bath ending with her homing in on your arse. At first I found this a little unsettling to say the least for a variety of reasons, not least being hygiene. But roll with the flow and let her get into it so to speak.

This was generally followed by more BBBJ and then the application of the condom. The sex was always energetic with lots of variations usually culminating just prior to the end of the allotted session of 45 minutes indicated by the phone ringing. To be honest, the ladies really enjoyed the full on sex.

Finally it was back to the shower. On leaving, there was the regular request by the mamasan or the male managers – “was everything OK”. My answer was always in the affirmative and explains my daily visit. By routine resulted in the nickname Phoenix!

Given the price of HK$490 including the girl, a drink and an air conditioned room with shower, it was great value.

On my last visit, I thought I had enough time to do two girls back to back. Realising that I could not risk missing the plane, I asked about two girls at the same time. To be honest, I did not expect much. It has only ever really worked in Bangkok (Eden). Usually it results in one girl, then the other, etc.

To my surprise and total enjoyment, Su Ching and Gah Yee gave me a wonderful time with their highly cooperative efforts. OK, it wasn’t a lesbian show but they certainly focused on me and both really enjoyed the activities. The cost was HK$880.

K Pressure is a great place for no hassle sex!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

[Tingle Tree]

A long held desire after many years of travelling in China is to get to Mongolia as all reports and pictures show Mongolian ladies to be stunningly beautiful. My last visit to Shanghai provided an introduction to a Mongolian/Sichuan mix who did not disappoint in the looks or sex departments.

One night in Hari’s, I was at a table next to two ladies and nursing my bottle of whisky. One lady was fairly average looking but the other, Lily, was a tallish, statuesque stunner. They were 'hit on' by some younger guys but I suspect they were frightened off by the P4P situation.

Lily then switched her attentions to me which surprised me as I am a bit of an ‘old codger’. She was quite forward in suggesting we go and have it off. I couldn’t help myself once she informed me she was Mongolian and it therefore explained her good looks and stunning face.

In a nutshell, we adjourned to my hotel after agreeing on the price of HK$600 for ST and my preference of HK$1000 all night. On the way to my hotel, we chatted and she informed me she was a student in Singapore. She had worked there in karaoke but when asked if she worked in OT described it as ‘dirty’.

She really was a fantastic looker out of her clothes with smallish, delectable pert breasts. Her body was flawless and slim. The only down side was the rushed approach followed by the need to return to look after her friend who was flying back to Mongolia the next day.

All in all, Lily provided a ‘business like’ service but she satisfied my itch (even after my daily visit to K Pressure) and my curiousity about Mongolian beauties.

I may even try to follow her up in Singapore and see if I can generate a more GFE.

[Launchnow]

For those of you that know me - you will know that I have a number of pen pals also to see.

So today I was scheduled to meet a young filipina near star ferry. I had corresponded with her and did web cam chats, she was very friendly and seemed very cute. Nice face and body.

So it is darn hot but I am waiting outside the Watson's near star ferry. She finally shows and ... Not so good. First, she is not as cute in real life. Second, she barely says ANYTHING. We stand there for 20 mins (cause her other friend is supposed to come join us before we all go to lunch). First 10 mins I do all the chatting and all I get are grunts and yes no answers. Second 10 mins in silences. I am like "F THIS" as I would HAVE gone to lunch just for the conversation, if there was any.

So by this point I am hot and thinking this isn't going to end well. So I made up an excuse and jetted. Hmph. Well that was interesting. Phnine has heard this story already and got a few chuckles out of it. LOL.

[Tiger 888]

I may even try to follow her up in Singapore and see if I can generate a more GFE.That might be well worth it.

I met a Mongolian in Sticky fingers about a year back. We agreed on long time for 1000, but with some excuse she left after 2 rounds (2 hours). I was kind of disappointed, but she was so hot that I tried again. Next time the same game, even though she promised not to run off. The next time, I played with her in Sticky fingers (lots of DFK) and left her alone when it was time to leave. She begged my friend (whio was staying in my appartment) to bring her back to me. No way. Then she went back home and came back after about 6 months. When she saw me in Sticky fingers, she was with a customer, gave him some excuse, came to me and we stayed together 3 full days. 100% GFE, money no longer discussed, I gave her 1000 per day.
The problem is when they come to HK, the airfare is quite hignh and they only have 2 weeks to make the most money they can. GFE or not, they came to survive or at least for a better life. Back in the county they live that is all another story.

[Weelock]

Hi,

I need to book a hotel in Hong Kong ( TST ). Does any know which way is usually cheaper. I have found a post from “ Little Wing" but it has been over a year and there is also a problem about booking a month in advance.

Should I:

1st: walk-in or call the hotel directly.

2nd: Make reservation over some website.

3rd: Go to a local travel agent and ask them to make the reservation.

You would think making or calling the hotel directly would be the cheapest or using a website. But in Macau, I found out local travel agents can get hotels cheaper. For example, I have a Holiday Inn Membership Card. Even with this card, the local travel agent beat my Membership Card price about 30%. For Hong Kong, I don’t know if it’s the same. Does anyone know of any local travel agents, or any other suggestions, updates to get better rates.


Thanks……


Link to "Little Wing" post for hotels from a year ago:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=383978&postcount=2480

http://www.hotelhk.com/index_eng.php

[Smoke The Boss]

Hi all,

I made a dash from Singapore on the weekend to spend a couple of days in Wan Chi and sample some more fine Columbian beauties.

I spent two nights at Neptunes 2 and managed to leave with two different ladies. It may just be me but these girls are fine.

I picked up a tall blonde the first night and a dark haired beauty the second. Both of these girls were totally shaven and just about screamed down the room at 3am in the morning. When I left yesterday for the flight back I could hardly walk. I was totally drained!

I recommend you take a trip and see some of these fine ladies.

I can't explain it but I had to go back for the dark haired one after missing out a week or so back. She totally fucked my head up and I had to just return the favour. In other ways of course.

STB

[Daring Mood]

POSTED ON PHILIPPINES, THAILAND, MALAYSIA, CAMBODIA, CHINA FORUMS

Guys
I want to buy a ring with one of the above precious stones (don't ask me why?).
In your travels can you advise which country / city in your experience offers best quality / prices?

TIA
Daring Mood

[Mmggg]

In your people's opinions, how would a young guy like myself go in Hong Kong. I'm 19 and fairly good looking. Do you reckon I would have any trouble picking up ladies for fun, or are the girls there fairly picky or the like? Anyone have any comments or perhaps experiences?

[Waiman]

Is best161 still running? Been trying the last 2 days to get on the web site but get page not availiable.

[Tiger 888]

Is best161 still running? Been trying the last 2 days to get on the web site but get page not availiable.
www.best161.com is down for quite a while. But there is a site only in Chinese:
www.best161.com.hk
also www.girl348.com has removed the ads for the girls and is chatroom only now. (chinese only!)

[John Smart]

In your people's opinions, how would a young guy like myself go in Hong Kong. I'm 19 and fairly good looking. Do you reckon I would have any trouble picking up ladies for fun, or are the girls there fairly picky or the like? Anyone have any comments or perhaps experiences?

In your people's opinions, how would an old guy like myself go in Hong Kong. I'm 59 and fairly old looking. Do you reckon I would have any trouble picking up ladies with the loaded wallet which I have, or are the girls there fairly picky or the like?

[Ace Gallant]

In your people's opinions, how would an old guy like myself go in Hong Kong. I'm 59 and fairly old looking. Do you reckon I would have any trouble picking up ladies with the loaded wallet which I have, or are the girls there fairly picky or the like?


In your people's opinions, how would a young guy like myself go in Hong Kong. I'm 19 and fairly good looking. Do you reckon I would have any trouble picking up ladies for fun, or are the girls there fairly picky or the like? Anyone have any comments or perhaps experiences?

In today's world: Money is King. If you got a fat wallet, it doesn't matters how ugly, how old or how fat you are; you can do a young pretty virgin girl.

Got the picture?

AG

[Fast Eddie 48]

Hi,

I need to book a hotel in Hong Kong ( TST ). Does any know which way is usually cheaper. I have found a post from “ Little Wing" but it has been over a year and there is also a problem about booking a month in advance.

Should I:

1st: walk-in or call the hotel directly.

2nd: Make reservation over some website.

3rd: Go to a local travel agent and ask them to make the reservation.

You would think making or calling the hotel directly would be the cheapest or using a website. But in Macau, I found out local travel agents can get hotels cheaper. For example, I have a Holiday Inn Membership Card. Even with this card, the local travel agent beat my Membership Card price about 30%. For Hong Kong, I don’t know if it’s the same. Does anyone know of any local travel agents, or any other suggestions, updates to get better rates.


Thanks……


Link to "Little Wing" post for hotels from a year ago:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=383978&postcount=2480

http://www.hotelhk.com/index_eng.php


to weelock

Hong Kong hotel is not as avalible as macau hotel , There are many empty
hotel room in macau during week but not in Hong Kong It is better to have
reservation before your trip ,Another thing you can do is try the travel service
in Hunghom train stations I once got a hotel at BP international for 60 USD a
yr ago , I don't know what is your budget there is many small motel in chung
king and mirama bulid for around 200-250 hkd.

You can always just take the train to shenzhen if no cheap room avalible in
Hong Kong and just take day trip there.

fast eddie 48

[Crazy Jim Wood]

Has anyone out there tried staying in a sauna overnight or shacking up with a 141 girl over night?

I believe both options exist, but have never heard of anyone actually pulling it off.

I realize that either option might require some sacrifices of comfort and conveniences, but, if both were possible, one could theoretically arrange to overnight with a 141 girl then beat it to the sauna should the 141 girl not work out.

Jimbo

[Ace Gallant]

Has anyone out there tried staying in a sauna overnight or shacking up with a 141 girl over night?

I believe both options exist, but have never heard of anyone actually pulling it off.

I realize that either option might require some sacrifices of comfort and conveniences, but, if both were possible, one could theoretically arrange to overnight with a 141 girl then beat it to the sauna should the 141 girl not work out.

Jimbo

Option:

Go over to Hong Kong Star Ferry Terminal;
go to one of those "Travel Agent"
Chose and buy a Sauna package for 1288 - 1588 HK$
Take the ferry to Macau
Enjoy
Eat
Rest
Enjoy
Eat
Sleep
Enjoy
Get back to Hong Kong on the 6am Ferry
Back in Hong Kong for Breakfast at 7am!

AG

[Crazy Jim Wood]

AG,
Thanks for the advice. Part of my purpose is to save money, so while the Macau option sounds like fun, it costs about as much as a hotel in HK.

Plus, I would like to stay in HK.

I am also attracted to the idea of shacking up in a 141 girl's apartment (prolly $800 or so?), for a more girlfriend-like experience than the sauna, with the $300 HK sauna as a back up.

Has anyone shacked up with a 141 girl or stayed in one of the cheaper saunas in HK?

I guess shacking up with a girl from Fenwick's or some bar would also work, although I assume they would try to get rid of you once they got your money and go pick up another guy.

My understanding of the 141 girls is that they are more home bodies who would be more willing to put up with a guest over night because they don't work too late anyway.

Option:

Go over to Hong Kong Star Ferry Terminal;
go to one of those "Travel Agent"
Chose and buy a Sauna package for 1288 - 1588 HK$
Take the ferry to Macau
Enjoy
Eat
Rest
Enjoy
Eat
Sleep
Enjoy
Get back to Hong Kong on the 6am Ferry
Back in Hong Kong for Breakfast at 7am!

AG

[Ace Gallant]

AG,
Thanks for the advice. Part of my purpose is to save money, so while the Macau option sounds like fun, it costs about as much as a hotel in HK.

Plus, I would like to stay in HK.

I am also attracted to the idea of shacking up in a 141 girl's apartment (prolly $800 or so?), for a more girlfriend-like experience than the sauna, with the $300 HK sauna as a back up.

Has anyone shacked up with a 141 girl or stayed in one of the cheaper saunas in HK?

I guess shacking up with a girl from Fenwick's or some bar would also work, although I assume they would try to get rid of you once they got your money and go pick up another guy.

My understanding of the 141 girls is that they are more home bodies who would be more willing to put up with a guest over night because they don't work too late anyway.

Oh sorry, I thought you just wanted some fun staying over in Sauna.

AG

[Tiger 888]

Sticky Fingers in TST east, on Mody Road (next to the Deli France) has become one of the very hot places. Philipinas, Thais, Chinese, Mongolians, Russians, Africans... and a very good live band. I would rate it higher than Hari's (Holiday Inn). It is a 5-10 minutes walk from Holiday Inn. I have posted a map in the maps section.

But getting very crowded recently, even on weekdays. Drinks are cheaper than in Hari's, the girls maybe not. (Even though I was already able to score freebies there, but that needs time of course.)
It seems the good times are over. The management has changed, they are refusing most of the girls entry and the place is even dead on some days. (The band playing in front of not many people)
Stupid to throw away business like that.

[Launchnow]

Jim,

Have you seen the size of rooms at typical 141? I know you want to save money or whatever, but I don't think you would like staying over night in a 141 room. I am sure maybe some people do.. But I would wonder who these people are, LOL... But geez, these rooms are smaller than a closet. Two people could not sleep comfortably all night on the small thin mattress, unless they were midgets. I can't imagine it being any fun. Just my 2 cents.

If you are looking for some adventure, go over to Wan Chai area and try and pick up one of the working chicks in the bars... You can bring her to your hotel and lock up your things in your hotel safe, or simply padlock your suitcase and tether it to furniture. There is certainly more play in Wan Chai than Sticky Fingers.

As for me, I am currently in GZ but heading back to HK this weekend for 4 more days. I have collected a number of digits on this trip both pro and non pro (thankfully I got a HK phone number SIM card). I have enough game that I just made an evening date with a non pro that I met on the SZ to GZ train. She is hot. I was very attracted to her body but in conversation she is pretty cool - and also has an interesting non-pro job. She doesn't speak any English so my translator device was magic, LOL. More on that in another post.

I agree that Sticky Fingers is crap - at least on the night I was there last weekend around 10pm? or so, along with my main man Phnine. The talent was very unimpressive.

Cheers,

Launch


Has anyone out there tried staying in a sauna overnight or shacking up with a 141 girl over night?

I believe both options exist, but have never heard of anyone actually pulling it off.

I realize that either option might require some sacrifices of comfort and conveniences, but, if both were possible, one could theoretically arrange to overnight with a 141 girl then beat it to the sauna should the 141 girl not work out.

Jimbo

[Crazy Jim Wood]

Yes, I`ve been to a few 141 girls. While the toilets in some were just holes in the ground, the beds were large enough in several, one even had 2 bedrooms, although that would defeat the purpose. I agree it would be a challenge, but it would be like ecotourism getting away from the exploitive hotels and mixing with the salt of the earth. I just wanted to hear if anyone had done it. I guess not?
Jim,

Have you seen the size of rooms at typical 141? I know you want to save money or whatever, but I don't think you would like staying over night in a 141 room. I am sure maybe some people do.. But I would wonder who these people are, LOL... But geez, these rooms are smaller than a closet. Two people could not sleep comfortably all night on the small thin mattress, unless they were midgets. I can't imagine it being any fun. Just my 2 cents.

If you are looking for some adventure, go over to Wan Chai area and try and pick up one of the working chicks in the bars... You can bring her to your hotel and lock up your things in your hotel safe, or simply padlock your suitcase and tether it to furniture. There is certainly more play in Wan Chai than Sticky Fingers.

As for me, I am currently in GZ but heading back to HK this weekend for 4 more days. I have collected a number of digits on this trip both pro and non pro (thankfully I got a HK phone number SIM card). I have enough game that I just made an evening date with a non pro that I met on the SZ to GZ train. She is hot. I was very attracted to her body but in conversation she is pretty cool - and also has an interesting non-pro job. She doesn't speak any English so my translator device was magic, LOL. More on that in another post.

I agree that Sticky Fingers is crap - at least on the night I was there last weekend around 10pm? or so, along with my main man Phnine. The talent was very unimpressive.

Cheers,

Launch

[Launchnow]

Ok sorry, I didn't know you had been to 141s before.

Mixing with the salt of the earth. Funny. But I liked it :)


Yes, I`ve been to a few 141 girls. While the toilets in some were just holes in the ground, the beds were large enough in several, one even had 2 bedrooms, although that would defeat the purpose. I agree it would be a challenge, but it would be like ecotourism getting away from the exploitive hotels and mixing with the salt of the earth. I just wanted to hear if anyone had done it. I guess not?

[Kev 3X]

Did the girls from Sticky Fingers move somewhere? Possibly Hari's?
I'd love to find a Columbian at Hari's some night.

[Firebird]

I have never seen Colombians in Hari's Bar. You will definitely find them in many of the bars in Wanchai



Did the girls from Sticky Fingers move somewhere? Possibly Hari's?
I'd love to find a Columbian at Hari's some night.

[Kev 3X]

Too bad, I never get a chance to get to the Island, have to spend most of my time in Kowloon, TST ...

[Lobo]

It seems the good times are over. The management has changed, they are refusing most of the girls entry and the place is even dead on some days. (The band playing in front of not many people)
Stupid to throw away business like that.

I was at Sticky Fingers last night for the first time (usually stay HK side and go to WanChai, but decided to try Kowloon). WHile the place wasn't packed, there were quite a few attractive girls there. I think most if not all were Phillipina and maybe a handful of Thais. I could only stay for a beer (around 10:45 PM). What was strange was that all the men were congregated together and all the girls were together but almost no mixing. Very strange indeed! But the band was good and if I'd have time to stay I definitely could have found several that girls that I'd like to inspect further...

[Smoke The Boss]

You'll find plenty at Fenwicks or Neptunes 2.

I'd say 20 atleast in Fenwicks on any given night.

STB


Did the girls from Sticky Fingers move somewhere? Possibly Hari's?
I'd love to find a Columbian at Hari's some night.

[Tiger 888]

I was at Sticky Fingers last night for the first time (usually stay HK side and go to WanChai, but decided to try Kowloon). WHile the place wasn't packed, there were quite a few attractive girls there. I think most if not all were Phillipina and maybe a handful of Thais. I could only stay for a beer (around 10:45 PM). What was strange was that all the men were congregated together and all the girls were together but almost no mixing. Very strange indeed! But the band was good and if I'd have time to stay I definitely could have found several that girls that I'd like to inspect further...It seems to be at random. On friday night they were not refusing many girls, but I have the impression that they only let Philipinas and Thais in now. But on some days not. It's not my favourite place anymore, it used to be so good. A very strange atmosphere now. In earlier days in the weekend you could hardly find a place to stand.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Fellow mongers,

I will be arriving in Hong Kong in about 10 days for the first time. I'm a veteran of pretty much the rest of Asia and am a certified Singapore expert of sorts, having lived there for over three years. If anyone has any questions at all about the scene there, I'd be happy to respond. I've read this board all the way back to the past year and a half or so but I still have a few questions if you don't mind.

1) Has anyone used the www.hotelhk.com site? I'm a bit wary of faxing my credit card info to Hong Kong. Any similar sites where I can book and pay online for a similar nightly rate?

2) Non-pro, non DH women: What are my chances of hooking up with (no pun intended) a horny housewife/office girl/student on the prowl for a one-nighter? Is Lan Kwai Fong my best bet and if so, does anyone have any suggestions for bars or how to make this happen?

3) The Chinese visa situation: I'm an American citizen which I understand means different entry rules than a lot of you. I had planned to go back and forth a few times, but am I correct in what I've gathered that I would need a separate visa for each visit? Also, do I have to go to the China Resources Bldg to apply?

4) Lastly, where the HELL are the online chat sites where I can meet some prospects in advance? I have yet to find one AT ALL but I know there must be some.

Thanks much in advance. I'll also be visiting BKK, Phnom Penh, Singapore and Jakarta on this trip and will be filing full reports from each upon my return.

Cheers!

[WooVictor]

The last few weeks I had visited the Noble House Sauna at the basement of Peninsula Centre in Tsimshatsui East several times, but each time served by a different masseuse. First there was this girl #80 (her name was May), who was excellent in massage and also a good fuck. She’s a bit plump but with sizeable tits, and I’ve had her twice. Then there was #5 (whose name now escapes me), who was also skillful in massage but otherwise okay. She was about as big as #80 but with much smaller breasts.

While I would recommend #80, the girl that I really want to talk about is #90 (Ah Wan or Clouds). She’s in her mid-20s, and had been doing this for just one month when she served me in mid-August. She told me that she had gone through one month of training by #1, the most experienced masseuse at the place. Her lessons involved all the proper massage skills plus special skills to please men, and as she only got to practice on other girls the special skills needed to be refined by on-the-job learning. She was eager to learn, and I had no hesitation in teaching her a few tricks.

But clearly she was a new girl in the business. We started with the normal massage procedure, and she was actually quite competent with her skills. Shortly afterwards I began to caress her thighs and ass whenever possible. There was no problem at all until we were almost half way through the first session, when I found a chance to slip my finger under her panties. I had only stroked her labia about three to four times when she simply froze. I probed a little inside, and found that she was already getting wet. Then I let go of her to allow her to resume her job, but after a short while I assaulted her pussy again. This time I found her clit very quickly, and again she froze in the middle of what she was doing and even started to moan. I repeated this trick two to three times during the first session, and I believe she had one to two near-orgasms. I asked her how come she was so easily defeated by my fingers, and she could only laugh, saying repeatedly that it was very “comfortable”. Finally, I could not resist a more complete victory over her. I got up from the massage bed, pushed her back on the other massage bed and ripped off her panties. Then I rubbed her clit vigorously, forcing her to moan loudly. Just then the phone rang and the manageress shouted “time’s up” on the intercom. With some difficult, she managed to yell back “extension”.

I let her go, and she went out to collect her “tools” without putting on her panties. As soon as she came back she turned off the light and I stripped her completely naked. I kissed her gently, which she enjoyed very much. She even allowed me to kiss her lips, protruding a little of her tongue out for me to lick but would not open her mouth wide. I caressed her sizeable tits and round tight ass, and then put her on the massage bed to administer another round of clit rubbing, which brought her to climax. She then put the rubber on me, and I entered her standing with one leg on the floor and the other on the bed. She kept screaming at the top of her lung as I fucked her, calling my name out loud. With some difficulty I managed to hold out my orgasm, and we climaxed together.

As usual, total damage was HK$1,200. I think I’ll be back again before too long for another session with #91. Hopefully I could get to French-kiss her and find her G spot. I do recommend this clean and well appointed place for good massage skills and full service at reasonable price. In particular, #91 is great for those who want to have a good massage as well as sex with a fresh girl.

[Rick Hunter]

I managed to have another one of those weekends that just makes one appreciate Hong Kong. Friday night and Saturday found me having fun with a local girl. However I found myself with nothing to do on Sunday so I thought I would head to Wan Chai. Before heading there I snet a sms to a maid who I used to meet for no-strings-attached sex but I had not seen her in around 6 months. She told me she was already in Wan Chai and that Laguana had opened early so I should head there to meet her.

Upon arriving she told me that she was hanging with some other guy she'd been seeing for the last few months so she'd be ignoring me for the day (although we would have to meet up sometime to screw when she would not get into trouble with her boyfriend) but to make up for being busy she had arranged for one of her hot 21 year old maid friends to keep me company. We spent a great time dancing, kissing and grinding. After a couple hours I let her go hang with her friends as she didn't want to screw the first time she met me (although this morning she sent me an SMS letting me know next Sunday she wants to sleep with me).

Being rather horny and not wanting to pick up a lady in front of her I went to New Makarti to see what was happening. I had barely ordered a beer when a helper I had been with a few times over a year ago spotted me and jumped on me in order to force her tounge down my throat. Within 5 minutes she had finished what she was drinking and we were having fantastic sex at a hourly hotel near by. She'd had just enough to drink to make her wild. We spent an hour and half alternating between screwing an talking before she had to meet up with her friends to head back to Sha Tin. I also met up with friends to go out for a nice steak dinner.

Weekends like this make a person enjoy living in Hong Kong.

[Rick Hunter]

Gaijin Gigolo in response to your questions:

1) Never used it but can understand why you'd be wary. Why don't you just contact the hotel directly or use a more internationally reputable travel agent.

2) I would say your chances are quite low. If you are good looking and a in your 20-30's you might be able to pick up a one-nighter in Lan Kwai Fong or Dragon-i but HK is like London, NYC, any big city. Most people who live here are not looking for one-night stands with people just passing through. (Of course some are - and there are a lot of ladies who have been educated overseas that managed to get hooked on gweilos).

3) Yes American's have it tougher for Visas but you can thank your government for causing the situation by making it difficult for the Chinese to visit the USA. I am not 100% sure of this but I believe as an American you can go to any CTS location to get a visa. (CTS = China Travel Service I believe - they have a detailed website explaining how to get the diiferent types of Visas). Basically I think that only difference is Americans can not get a visa at the boarder and must pay more for their visa.

4) Very good question. I would like to know the answer too. I know people use MSN, yahoo and google but you basically need to know them first. Other than bored housewives not sure if you will find much online.

Hope this helps


Fellow mongers,

I will be arriving in Hong Kong in about 10 days for the first time. I'm a veteran of pretty much the rest of Asia and am a certified Singapore expert of sorts, having lived there for over three years. If anyone has any questions at all about the scene there, I'd be happy to respond. I've read this board all the way back to the past year and a half or so but I still have a few questions if you don't mind.

1) Has anyone used the www.hotelhk.com site? I'm a bit wary of faxing my credit card info to Hong Kong. Any similar sites where I can book and pay online for a similar nightly rate?

2) Non-pro, non DH women: What are my chances of hooking up with (no pun intended) a horny housewife/office girl/student on the prowl for a one-nighter? Is Lan Kwai Fong my best bet and if so, does anyone have any suggestions for bars or how to make this happen?

3) The Chinese visa situation: I'm an American citizen which I understand means different entry rules than a lot of you. I had planned to go back and forth a few times, but am I correct in what I've gathered that I would need a separate visa for each visit? Also, do I have to go to the China Resources Bldg to apply?

4) Lastly, where the HELL are the online chat sites where I can meet some prospects in advance? I have yet to find one AT ALL but I know there must be some.

Thanks much in advance. I'll also be visiting BKK, Phnom Penh, Singapore and Jakarta on this trip and will be filing full reports from each upon my return.

Cheers!

[Tiger 888]

...1) Has anyone used the www.hotelhk.com site? I'm a bit wary of faxing my credit card info to Hong Kong. Any similar sites where I can book and pay online for a similar nightly rate?...Cheers!
This website is run by Edmond Travel. They once tried to cheat me. They advertised a Hotel in tht philipines. When I wanted to book at this rate, they told me it was full. They have another one similar, but cheaper. After investigating it turned out that the other hotel was 3 hours away and I could book it cheaper directly that through him. Watch out!
There is a very good website: www.hrs.de
You can set the language to English. Most hotels don't even require deposit. Your reservation is void if you don't show up before 6pm or tell them that you will be later.
For your Visa, go to the Hong Kong maps section. Everything is covered there.

[Ace Gallant]

In Respond to your questions I would like to Add on the Rick' s answers


Gaijin Gigolo in response to your questions:

1) Never used it but can understand why you'd be wary. Why don't you just contact the hotel directly or use a more internationally reputable travel agent.

My Admin people had used this site to book hotels in Hong Kong and had no problems booking it. They are better for Hong Kong Hotel only. Do not try for other countries! You can get a better discount from this site than most local agents in USA. Try this site, we had found their coverage for hotels better:

http://www.hong-kong-hotels-network.com/



2) I would say your chances are quite low. If you are good looking and a in your 20-30's you might be able to pick up a one-nighter in Lan Kwai Fong or Dragon-i but HK is like London, NYC, any big city. Most people who live here are not looking for one-night stands with people just passing through. (Of course some are - and there are a lot of ladies who have been educated overseas that managed to get hooked on gweilos).


No further comments on this, Agree totally with Rick.



3) Yes American's have it tougher for Visas but you can thank your government for causing the situation by making it difficult for the Chinese to visit the USA. I am not 100% sure of this but I believe as an American you can go to any CTS location to get a visa. (CTS = China Travel Service I believe - they have a detailed website explaining how to get the diiferent types of Visas). Basically I think that only difference is Americans can not get a visa at the boarder and must pay more for their visa.


Unfortunately you can only get a one time visit Visa if you are a tourist. You need a Work Visa to qualify for multi-entires and to stay for longer period. You only can get work Visa if you have a company in Hong Kong / China to certify that you are working here.



4) Very good question. I would like to know the answer too. I know people use MSN, yahoo and google but you basically need to know them first. Other than bored housewives not sure if you will find much online.


I had a lot of luck with Adult Friends Finder and got me a number of freebies in Hong Kong. Unfortunately you got to pay subscription.

Enjoy!
AG

[Kens14]

Hey Rickhunter,

great report - "why I love HK". Your weekend also sums up many of my weekends. I think that the availability of free and easy poon on a Wanchai Sunday is just amazing - Fenwicks, Laguana, New Makati, Dusk till Dawn & later J. B's - it's a pure poon fest. Who needs bar fines, ST & LT prices when you've got Wanchai !!

Kens.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Rick, Tiger, Asian Gambler. THANK YOU very much for your replies. Much appreciated! I'll be arriving on a Friday evening so I plan to spend that night, Saturday and Sunday on the prowl for locals and/or DHs. Can't wait to see the Victoria Park area on Sunday. I have a thing for Indo girls. ; -) I'll reserve my 141 and Mongkok visits for during the week around my business schedule. Hopefully I can make it over to Shenzhen too, even if only for one night.

Just one more question. Do any of you have a particular favorite hotel in Wanchai that you would suggest in the under-$500 range? I'd like to be close to the discos and I'll be out prowling more than I'll be in it, so I don't like to spend a lot of money on a room for myself. Just need a decent bed for shagging. :-)

Thanks again!

P.S. You're right on about our government. I can't argue with you one bit.

[RasSpewtin]

Gigolo:

I must say that under 500 HKD is kind of tough for a decent hotel anywhere in HK to my knowledge. However, on one particular Sunday afternoon I found myself in Wan Chai with a wonderful Fili-freebie, and we were aching for a place to shag. We wondered around Wan Chai for a while, and just happened to come across the Beverly Hotel (actually, I think that she led me that way and waited for me to notice the hotel sign).

They charged 400 HKD for the afternoon, but I think that probably would have covered us until the next morning if I had wanted to stay that long. The Beverly is on Lockhart Road in the heart of Wan Chai, and sorry but I don't even know if you can call ahead for a reservation. You may have luck if you just walk in. But be advised that they hold the key to the room, which is something to get used to if you like to be in control.

Raz





Just one more question. Do any of you have a particular favorite hotel in Wanchai that you would suggest in the under-$500 range? I'd like to be close to the discos and I'll be out prowling more than I'll be in it, so I don't like to spend a lot of money on a room for myself. Just need a decent bed for shagging. :-)

[Ace Gallant]

Rick, Tiger, Asian Gambler. THANK YOU very much for your replies. Much appreciated! I'll be arriving on a Friday evening so I plan to spend that night, Saturday and Sunday on the prowl for locals and/or DHs. Can't wait to see the Victoria Park area on Sunday. I have a thing for Indo girls. ; -) I'll reserve my 141 and Mongkok visits for during the week around my business schedule. Hopefully I can make it over to Shenzhen too, even if only for one night.

Just one more question. Do any of you have a particular favorite hotel in Wanchai that you would suggest in the under-$500 range? I'd like to be close to the discos and I'll be out prowling more than I'll be in it, so I don't like to spend a lot of money on a room for myself. Just need a decent bed for shagging. :-)

Thanks again!

P.S. You're right on about our government. I can't argue with you one bit.


You cannot get a decent hotel above 2 stars in Hong Kong for HK$500 and below in Wan Chai. However there are some Traveller's Lounge (Back packers) type of hotel that are around HK$400+, Normally these sort of Hotel are not listed on the web and does not take overseas booking. You got to walk in.

The next nearest is in North Point. Try Ibis Hotel - North Point, they have room for around HK$475. Small tiny room big enough for one bed, one small writting table and a shower.

AG

[Rick Hunter]

For the price range you are looking for I would second that the Ibis in North Point is likely your best bet. I've known other budget concerned people who have stayed there and all have been happy with it.

As for Ming Court, Hotel Beverly, Victoria Hotel, et al in Wan Chai. These are hourly love hotels. Ming Court (Minimum charge $130) is likely the most frequented and the cheapest where as Victoria (Minimum charge $240) is the most expensive. Beverly (Minimum chage $192) is in between.

All three places are fine. Ming Court is closest to the bars so it is filled with ladies picked up there. Beverly generally has the same cliental where as Victoria is a mix of local kids/people having affairs and people who have walked a little further from the bars.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Thanks again gents. After your informative comments I decided to just buck up and spend a little more money and be right in the heart of things. I found this site:

http://www.hotelinhongkong.net/

where I was able to get 7 nts at the King's Hotel at 300 Jaffee Rd. for only $620 per night. I decided I'll feel better about having a confirmed room rather than wait til I get there and spend half an afternoon trying to find a place, especially after the long flight.

http://www.kingshotelhk.com/

Thanks again for the help. I truly appreciate it and will definitely let you know how the hunt goes!

[Acer V]

I find the Causeway Bay guest houses much better options. There are 5-6 in the building directly behind the Lee Garden on Lee Garden Road. They charge around $120-150 for two hours and about $400 for all night.

These places are about the same standard as the Ming Court and the Beverly Hotel in Wanchai. The Wanchai places are convenient but not very good value. They also try to double the price if you want to play with 2 girls. The Casueway Bay places dont charge me any extra for my threesome activities.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Thanks Acer. I already booked the King's Hotel though. Right on Jaffee street. I think it'll be worth the extra money.

[Uncle Goober]

I already booked the King's Hotel though. Right on Jaffee street. I think it'll be worth the extra money.But check their web site small print. It says add HK$200 per day for each extra person in the room.

[Ace Gallant]

But check their web site small print. It says add HK$200 per day for each extra person in the room.

I never had problems bringing "guest" into my room for Hotel in Hong Kong. They never charge me any extra.

AG

[Gaijin Gigolo]

I'm guessing they might ask for more if I TELL them I have a guest, which I don't plan to do. I mean come on...it's right on Jaffe Street.

[Brain Damaged]

But check their web site small print. It says add HK$200 per day for each extra person in the room.

Based on the hotel site that GG used, he is paying for a "Double Room" (HK$70 cheaper for a "Single Room"). Smart move--he gets two breakfasts (if included :-)

Also, my experience in HKG is that no one checks what type of room you paid for as you pass through the lobby to/from your room.

[Dar425]

Hi,

Can anyone offer any information about 'schoolgirl bars'? By this, I mean they are a bar/pub which has girls wearing 'schoolgirl' uniforms who sit with you and drink and chat. And, are these girls also available for take-out to my hotel (or nearby hourly hotel)?

If so, how much does this cost (for drinks/food, girl tip, and take-out fee)? Are these places located in Wanchai, or Mongkok or Jordan or where? Can white/gwai-loh get into these places or only local HongKong men? Is sex available with the girls?

I did not see much mention about these kind of "theme bars" in this forum.

Are there other kinds of themes available? Nurses, schoolgirls, cheerleaders, cartoon/anime girls, other !???

Thanks for any information,
Dar

[Acer V]

Gaijin,
I know the King's but never stayed there. It is relatively new, so should be good value. How much are you paying if you don't mind me asking?

[Member #3914]

Oh my god, this girl gonna blow your mind (and of course your d**k). Check this out, JULIA at ******.

http://******.com/eng/view_id-15164.html

Actual looks much better than the photo on website.

If you call to your hotel, the price for 1 hour (1 time) would be HKD900.

Though I am just 31, I am a frequent traveller and an experienced campaingner. I already have score of more than 300 with girls of all nationalities.

My rating for JULIA would be 10/10. Can't get better than this. If you treat her well, she will be better than your girlfriend. Take my word. With a body and face like that, i bet you wouldn't like to miss her. She would do anything (except greek). Never met a girl with a better attitude and smile. She doesn't look like a h****r at all. Please don't treat her bad (it seems i have fallen in love with her LOL).

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Tks again for the support mates. I'll be on my way in 7 days.

Acer, RTFF. JUST KIDDING! ;-) I'm paying $620 per night booked through

http://www.hotelinhongkong.net/

It was actually about $100 cheaper than through the hotels own site at

http://www.kingshotelhk.com/

Dar...re: schoolgirl themed bars...I know of two outstanding ones in Bangkok, both in Soi Cowboy off Sukhumvit Rd., and one in Batam if you ever venture down to those places. (But yes I realize you're talking about HKG.)

[Superforce99]

I know that there's been a few reports on the "hotel reservation" 141 girls on
the HK board, but I was wondering if there are any other ISG members out
there with additional experience?

It seems like most of the best-looking 141 gals are hotel reservation type and
I have rarely heard of good experiences, as opposed to the hit/miss nature of
the regular walk-in apartment 141 gals.


J

[Traveler1234]

I know that there's been a few reports on the "hotel reservation" 141 girls on
the HK board, but I was wondering if there are any other ISG members out
there with additional experience?

It seems like most of the best-looking 141 gals are hotel reservation type and
I have rarely heard of good experiences, as opposed to the hit/miss nature of
the regular walk-in apartment 141 gals.

J

Best looking AND best service don't always come in one package. Haven't done 141 in years so no personal/current experience to share with you....sorry.

From reading the HK threads, it's hit and miss - you'd have to do a thorough search of thread re specific recommendations - but don't go too far back as the girl probably is no longer working after a few months.

Check the maps and Report of distinction threads - some interesting posts.


PS - read the most recent post re Julia - one member thinks she's super so try her out ;)

[Superforce99]

...

Check the maps and Report of distinction threads - some interesting posts.


PS - read the most recent post re Julia - one member thinks she's super so try her out ;)


Thanks Traveller,

I'm just interested in the HK 141 Hotel Reservation gals, nothing else really. If
I want guaranteed good service, there are plenty of options in HK. It's more
the alluring aspect of these hotel reservation gals...

About Julia, the report is pretty skimpy on detail, from a regular member with
a questionable history of posts, and Juila herself is nice but nothing special in
the looks department. Doesn't mean I wouldn't/won't try, but let's just say it's
not really on my list of things/gals to do in HK, but you never know...


J

[Squib Boy]

Pardon my ignorance, but when a girl on 141 is listed as a "hotel reservation" girl, does this mean she will come to YOUR hotel, or is it the fact that she is working out of a hotel?

[Doberpit]

I will be staying at the 4 seasons this coming Thursday and Friday, and am looking for some help on finding overnight company both nights. Unfortunately, I don't speak Mandarin at all so can't communicate well.

Is there a poster who would like to meet up?

Any help would be much appreciated!

Thanks.

[Turbo Guy]

Will be in Hong Kong in Nov, thinking of staying at the Kimberley Hotel on Kimberley Rd. Is this a reasonable hotel or near any action? thanks

[Jonlittle]

Oh my god, this girl gonna blow your mind (and of course your d**k). Check this out, JULIA at ******.

http://******.com/eng/view_id-15164.html

Actual looks much better than the photo on website.

If you call to your hotel, the price for 1 hour (1 time) would be HKD900.

Though I am just 31, I am a frequent traveller and an experienced campaingner. I already have score of more than 300 with girls of all nationalities.

My rating for JULIA would be 10/10. Can't get better than this. If you treat her well, she will be better than your girlfriend. Take my word. With a body and face like that, i bet you wouldn't like to miss her. She would do anything (except greek). Never met a girl with a better attitude and smile. She doesn't look like a h****r at all. Please don't treat her bad (it seems i have fallen in love with her LOL).

Hi Member #3914.

I will be in Hong Kong tomorrow for 3 days and I have decided to try her out after reading your recommendation. Is she as young as what her biodate says (21)? Alos, does she speak any language other than Mandarin?

CHeers,

Jon

[Dorasan]

~$400 Prince Ed hotels
I wouldn't bother as they get half, while the 141 girls with her own flat gets a lot more. All are PRC (northern) girls, short time stay I think.

~$600 Shenzhen girls, New and Old San Diego Hotel
Some are very good looking but it's likely they come often and their attitude isn't that good. Indeed if they have no reason to believe that you will tip them good, they want to get away with the minimum work. $100 is a good tip compared to roughly half of $600 that they get. At this price level, the good ones get their session extended from one to several hours. There's no discount for the 2nd and subsequent hours.

~$700 to $1000 TST hotels (& San Diego)
All PRC girls. At $700, more likely to come from farther away and less mileage. Attitude slightly better, depends on how you play it.

I doubt very much if the PRC girls will go to your hotel room. Their price includes the room. If your hotel is close, maybe. If you get a room in their hotel, likely.

>$1200 local girls (San Diego)
By default they are incall girls with their room. Some of them are outcall girls, so you must have a room first. They leave home (or something) when you book them, so it doesn't matter where your hotel is, and your nationality. The girls who are on the site for weeks and months are likely to be outcall girls. They don't do that much in a day perhaps. For outcall girls, they are expecting a $350 room in New San Diego in the evenings. So an incall model at $1500 is cheaper.

The PRC girls are better looking and proportional to what they charge. Almost 100% the girl in the picture is the girl you see. The difference is that they wear full makeup on photo shoot and they don't wear any when they have to take two showers every hour. A small percentage also show their older pictures, the ones they shoot when they come over last year, not this time.

One of my best experience is with a Shenzhen girl, when I extended the session for another hour. She said she can come to HK easily and thinks that I will go north to see her often. She's regarding herself as half a local girl.

The other best are all with local outcall girls. Without showing their faces, it's a gamble but I wasn't disappointed so far. The local incall girls aren't bad in any way, indeed I had trouble booking the ones that I wanted. They are comparatively more girl friend feel, apart from the condom.

But the most GFE, and most hit and miss, are the freelance girls that you have to hang around the forums and chat rooms to hook up. Some have and some have no agents. Some want you to get a room first, and others want to see you in front of a book store first, before going further. If they rejects you from afar, they may or may not tell you (what to say?). If you reject them, some say in advance that they have to charge you $100 for the transport fee.

[Superforce99]

Pardon my ignorance, but when a girl on 141 is listed as a "hotel reservation" girl, does this mean she will come to YOUR hotel, or is it the fact that she is working out of a hotel?


You have to go to THEIR hotel room after calling and making a reservation.


J

[Squib Boy]

You have to go to THEIR hotel room after calling and making a reservation.


J

Thanks. Based on your experience, would any of these girls be amenable to spending the entire evening at YOUR hotel? If so, how much should I expect to pay for this?

[Superforce99]

Thanks. Based on your experience, would any of these girls be amenable to spending the entire evening at YOUR hotel? If so, how much should I expect to pay for this?

It's totally not worth it, though I can't say from personal experience. The few
friends of mine who tried it out (against my recommendations) said that the girl
wanted to charge by the hour, so basically 700-1000 HKD (or whatever their
normal rate is) x 2-3 hours, or however long you wanted them to stay. Ha ha...
totally ridiculous, but the girls could probably make that amount of money if
they actually stayed in their hotel since there are actually a large number of
HK mongers who prefer these more expensive 141 gals because of the perception
that they get "less wear and tear" and that the gals are younger/better looking.

And I guess if you wanted one to stay all night, then you would have to negotiate
with her starting sometime after her prime working hours (after 1-2 am),
but then you would still have to pay between 2-4 times their hourly rate
(1200-2400 HKD) and she would probably leave early, about 8am or 9am. And
she would have probably been fucked 4-6 times before she got together with
you that night and so her service might not be very enthusiastic. Still sound like
a good deal? Ha ha...



J

[Squib Boy]

One of the reasons I was curious about the 141 girls is that I am planning a mongering trip to Asia with a buddy of mine toward the end of the year, and I am trying to choose between HK and Shanghai. I've been to HK a number of times before and have done some mongering while there, mainly excursions to Macau to hit the popular saunas. I've also been to Shanghai once and have checked out the BBS scene as well as a couple of the local saunas. Based on my limited experiences at both locations I would state the following advantages for each location:

Hong Kong:

- More English-friendly, which is definitely a plus since neither of us will speak the local language, although I do understand a tiny bit of Mandarin. I am pretty adept at finding my way around unfamiliar venues, so this isn't a huge deal for me, but it's more so for my buddy.

- More ethnic variety. I know there are lots of Filipinas that hang out in places like Wanchai, and you can even find some South Americans there. And if you go to Macau you will find plenty of Thais and Vietnamese at the local saunas.

- Macau saunas. Definitely a great experience, and the saunas themselves are very upscale when compared to the couple I've been to in Shanghai.

- 141 girls. I don't think Shanghai has anything like this.

Shanghai:

- Cheaper. The US dollar seems to go a lot farther here than in HK, both for mongering and non-mongering activities.

- Overall availability. It almost seems like there is a BBS on every block in the city! Sex seems to be very much out in the open here.

- The Red Rope experience. I had the pleasure of trying this at one of the saunas during my trip, and I have to say it is quite the experience. However, the saunas themselves, as well as the quality of the girls, don't appear to be on par with the upper-end Macau saunas.

- KTV experience. I haven't tried this yet, but Shanghai seems to have a lot of these...not so sure about HK.


Would anyone care to validate/invalidate my observations above, or provide any additional insight that would help me to decide which city to visit?

[FurryFriend]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi9QF00mrrc&mode=related&search=

If anyone wants to see what Hong Kong's 141s look like, just view this video. All 3 ladies quoted $300HKD -- which probably means it's one of the more ghetto 141 complexes in Jordan or North Point.

Turn your monitor 90 degrees clockwise for proper viewing.

[Jim Daili]

Will be staying in the Hyatt with few time to go out. Any chance to get extras (of what kind) from the spa girls located inside the hotel.

Anyone has already experienced that? At what costs?

Thanks for your answer.

[Sebastian My]

One of the reasons I was curious about the 141 girls is that I am planning a mongering trip to Asia with a buddy of mine toward the end of the year, and I am trying to choose between HK and Shanghai. I've been to HK a number of times before and have done some mongering while there, mainly excursions to Macau to hit the popular saunas. I've also been to Shanghai once and have checked out the BBS scene as well as a couple of the local saunas. Based on my limited experiences at both locations I would state the following advantages for each location:

Hong Kong:

- More English-friendly, which is definitely a plus since neither of us will speak the local language, although I do understand a tiny bit of Mandarin. I am pretty adept at finding my way around unfamiliar venues, so this isn't a huge deal for me, but it's more so for my buddy.

- More ethnic variety. I know there are lots of Filipinas that hang out in places like Wanchai, and you can even find some South Americans there. And if you go to Macau you will find plenty of Thais and Vietnamese at the local saunas.

- Macau saunas. Definitely a great experience, and the saunas themselves are very upscale when compared to the couple I've been to in Shanghai.

- 141 girls. I don't think Shanghai has anything like this.

Shanghai:

- Cheaper. The US dollar seems to go a lot farther here than in HK, both for mongering and non-mongering activities.

- Overall availability. It almost seems like there is a BBS on every block in the city! Sex seems to be very much out in the open here.

- The Red Rope experience. I had the pleasure of trying this at one of the saunas during my trip, and I have to say it is quite the experience. However, the saunas themselves, as well as the quality of the girls, don't appear to be on par with the upper-end Macau saunas.

- KTV experience. I haven't tried this yet, but Shanghai seems to have a lot of these...not so sure about HK.


Would anyone care to validate/invalidate my observations above, or provide any additional insight that would help me to decide which city to visit?

Caveat - i spend the bulk of my time in PRC and only transit through HK, so my comments may be bias - but my opinion.

1. English : Not really, if you go over the MongKok or Kowloon in general, the english drops away to almost nothing (for the girls) the only benefit are the owners always speak english in HK. (I speak a bit of mandarin and i have problems in HK beause a lot of girls only speak cantonese) I would say the language difference is minor. The only caveat is, if you are only hanging around the island you are totally correct.

2. If you like phillipino's then HK is the place to go. You can find phillipino's in shanghai around maoming, but its not a sure thing. HK also has more thai's and South American's - on the other hand shanghai has a great selection of a wide number of girls from different chinese provinces. On the other hand, if what you want is foreign girls, then Beijing is possibly the best location, mongolians and russians in huge supply. And if you like phillipino's, then Manila is only 90min away and you can get a dozen girls in your room for 300 peso's each - so why pay HK$800 in HK for a quick 60min experience.

3. Sauna's and 141 girls - totally correct. 141 girls are a unique experience, well worth giving it a go.

4. Cheaper in shanghai - correct if you do not speak chinese. If you speak chinese then i think you can get some great deals in shenzhen or even Kowloon. But generally correct.

5. Availability & Red Rope in shanghai - totally correct.

6. I personally think the KTV's are better in shanghai and cheaper. If you have a bit of cash to burn you can get model quality girls at JJ's in shanghai. I find getting this type of quality for laowai's is almost impossible without being totally ripped off.

Summary - If i wanted to go on a sexual adventure with the lads - i would go to shanghai. But i must admit, as long as you were willing to travel to macao, Shenzhen and even Guangzhou, HK is ok - but its just too much travel and the best actrion will be outside HK, so you will actually end up sleeping in HK for 2 nights - the night coming in and the night going out - with both nights involved with 141 girls.

[Sebastian My]

Will be staying in the Hyatt with few time to go out. Any chance to get extras (of what kind) from the spa girls located inside the hotel.

Anyone has already experienced that? At what costs?

Thanks for your answer.

I stay in this hotel a lot and have never felt there was an opportunity to get more than a massage from the in-hotel massage. However - its only a 5 minute walk to Neptunes, Fenwicks and all those bars in lockhart st - you can get a girl in about 5 minutes and they can provide what you need back in your hotel room. I timed my mate one evening, it took exactly 25 minutes for him to walk over to fenwicks, pick up a colombian bird and to get back to the grand hyatt lobby. He didn't even bother to have a beer.

[Squib Boy]

Thanks for your comments Sebastian...it's nice to know I'm not completely off base with my assumptions here. It's still a very tough choice for me to make, though. I'm actually a lot more familiar with HK, and I find it quite easy to get around via taxi or MTR for stuff like shopping eating, etc...everything seems to be 20 mins. or less away. And for my money I think HK has the best food anywhere...I seem to gain 5 pounds each time I go there! Shanghai is probably better for shopping, though, and especially if you're into buying counterfeit items. Anyway, I'm still torn, but I'm sure I won't be disappoiinted regardless of the city I choose.

[Superforce99]

Thanks for your comments Sebastian...it's nice to know I'm not completely off base with my assumptions here. It's still a very tough choice for me to make, though. I'm actually a lot more familiar with HK, and I find it quite easy to get around via taxi or MTR for stuff like shopping eating, etc...everything seems to be 20 mins. or less away. And for my money I think HK has the best food anywhere...I seem to gain 5 pounds each time I go there! Shanghai is probably better for shopping, though, and especially if you're into buying counterfeit items. Anyway, I'm still torn, but I'm sure I won't be disappoiinted regardless of the city I choose.


Overall, unless you really wanted to go see Shanghai itself, I don't see why you
would actually want to fly roundtrip to Shanghai for mongering. Just follow the
typical path that HK guys take and go to Shenzhen/Dongguan/Zhuhai (not Macau
unless you are planning to gamble and spend a lot of money on saunas).

I honestly don't think anywhere in China can compete with the Pearl River
Delta (HK/Shenzhen/Dongguan/Guangzhou) for girls, food, girls, KTV, girls,
transportation, girls, and business opportunities. And girls.

For sheer numbers of gals, number of KTVs, level of service, and pricing, I
think Dongguan can't be topped.

For sheer numbers of gals, number of KTVs, potential freebies, and pricing,
Shenzhen is great.

For potential freebies, Guangzhou is OK.

For no-hassle service, English not a problem, and clearly marked pricing from
gals, HK is great.

And I think the shopping is HK is more varied and more affordable than in Shanghai.
And if you want counterfeit items, just cross the border to Shenzhen/GZ/DG
where they make all the counterfeit items! Quality and variety of food in HK
is fabulous and whenever I'm in HK, if I'm not fucking then I'm eating. I think
Shanghai is a great, awesome city, too, but if I were in the HK area already or had
never been in China at all, I think HK/South China would be a much better
introduction to Chinese mongering than Shanghai for most westerners.

Anybody out there with extensive experience in Shanghai, HK, and Pearl River
Delta care to comment?


J

[Fast Eddie 48]

I agree with Johnnykon666 on southern China is the best place in the Whole china for mongering , There is many investment from Hong Kong one thing that I don't agree is Shanghai is cheaper than Hong kong for shopping and
mongering .

I am at Chongqing right now for the first time and I like this city very much
sauna and ktv every where quality of the girl is very good girls here are very
tall ,There is chance for freebie at the disco in town will check it out tonight,
I been to many place in china I think Dongguan and shenzhen will be on the
top list with Changsha and zhu hai ,macau close second maybe I will change
my mind after a few more days in chongqing .

fast eddie 48

[Gaijin Gigolo]

I'm thoroughly enjoying all the tips you vets are passing along. My first (7 night) trip to Hong Kong begins this Friday night, the 8th. Will spend the weekend in search of freebies and domestic help ;-) in Lan Kwai Fong and around Victoria Park, then proceed on the the 141s during the week when there are (presumably) fewer opportunities to hook up with a short time girlfriend. If time permits, I'll make a daytrip to Shenzhen too. Got a thing for cheap sex.

Any more tips to pass along? I'll be at the King's Hotel in Hong Kong...ground zero for the disco zone, seems like. Also, I've joined AFF and sent out some prospectus to several possibilities with no responses so far...has anybody had any luck using this site or any other site for tracking down foreigner-loving Chinese chicks? Or should I just find the nearest Strafucks and take a seat and wait for them to line up... ;-)

[Manfest]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi9QF00mrrc&mode=related&search=

If anyone wants to see what Hong Kong's 141s look like, just view this video. Very nice, thanks for the video. Can you really just ring the bell, have a look, then walk away if you don't like what you see? I guess no one is offended.

M