2006 Monterrey Reports [Archive] - InternationalSexGuide

MonterreyDude

01-20-06, 18:26

You should have visited the Infinito, used to be the small brother of the Matehuala, now it overwhelm's it completly.
If you think you saw beatiful girls at the Matehuala, you are going to lose your jaw when it falls off at the Infinito.
Same deal, same setup but action is faster there cause the girls are always on demand.
The Infinito is 4 blocks away from the Matehuala in the middle of the Villagran St. clubs and to one side of another smaller club of the same owners called the Givenchy.
Next time you are here you should check them up....

Hi Everybody!

Long time lurker and first time poster.

I am a recent American relo to Monterrey and am just getting the nerve up to explore the scene. Thank you Prokofiev for your excellent reports. Your report on the "other things to do in Monterrey" is bang on. I have done most of those things with the family.

Of course, I don't want to talk about my family right now ;)

I have just a couple of brief things to report. First of all, today, I took my first trip to Matehuala's. Just stayed a short while on my way back from work. Let me tell you, this place is fantastic. The women were beautiful and the atmosphere is very laid back. This place is certainly "working class, " but I felt very comfortable the whole time. I couldn't beleive how many beautiful women were there. And this was at 4 in the afternoon on a thursday! I am just learning Spanish and had no problems at all. I got privadas from two different hotties and it was fantastic. Didn't take advantage of the full menu ( a little nervous my first time) but let me tell you, if you are accustomed to the strip clubs in Dallas, or any US city, this place will blow your mind. You can get whatever you want from absolutely beautiful women for next to nothing. I can't wait to go back

As for the Massages. I have been to Faraona's II ( http://las-faraonas.com )three times (semi-conveniently located for me) and it was great for the money. I have seen posts from people saying they don't like the massage parlors here because the atmosphere tends to be impersonal. Well, impersonal is fine with me somtimes. If I just want a quickie, the massage parlors in Monterrey are perfect!

The cover is n$180 for a half hour. For an extra N$200, you get bbbj and multiple positions. My first chica was Alejandra. not much to look at, but the best blow job I ever had. Unbeleivable deep throat. I found out later that her stomach is kind of fucked up from babies and she wears a little skirt to hide it. Still , the blow job was truly exceptional. The next time, I had Marlene. A tall, curvy blonde. I found her quite attractive, but I like 'em with a little meat on 'em. Again, a world class blow job and very energetic sex. She was quite personable and friendly as well. The third time was with this super hot little chica from Chipas. Must have been 18 and a super tight body. BJ was pretty good, but very nice sex and she even through in an enthusiastic fake orgasm. (I know its fake, but I still like it. Nice courtesy)

That's all so far, poco a poco, I plan to check out more and will report.

This is a great board. Thank you very much to all you who have submitted your excellent posts.

Party on!

Prokofiev

01-20-06, 22:37

Money 69,

Since you have been to both Romanos and Misses several times, can you give us more details? How much do you pay? What are the services and who are your favorite providers? I wrote up each place based on a brief visit, but didn't stay at either and I wasn't positive I understood the prices correctly. The bedroom I saw at Misses was quite nice. I didn't see any of the rooms at Romanos.

Is the 400p 30min and 800p /hr the going rate at Romanos? Is 2000p the going rate at Misses? Can you bargain down? Obviously you must think that the talent at both is worth the extra money . . .

Thanks, -P

MonterreyDude

01-20-06, 23:17

If you are willing to pay those prices at misses, you should try checking out the Casablanca and Divain *****houses (am not sure if you already did Prokofiev).... more relaxed and about the same price as Misses and not as rushed as the latter.

And have in mind at MPs that there is always a starting price that includes just the room and a quickie... you start upping the ante with the girl to get extras, like a better deal, bbbj, daty, etc.
And providers... rotation at MPs is so big... for example, am not sure when you get back, if you'll find most of the girls you saw at Misses again.
Of course there is always a loyal crew, but think of it as a minimum amount of girls doing that...

Money 69,

Since you have been to both Romanos and Misses several times, can you give us more details? How much do you pay? What are the services and who are your favorite providers? I wrote up each place based on a brief visit, but didn't stay at either and I wasn't positive I understood the prices correctly. The bedroom I saw at Misses was quite nice. I didn't see any of the rooms at Romanos.

Is the 400p 30min and 800p /hr the going rate at Romanos? Is 2000p the going rate at Misses? Can you bargain down? Obviously you must think that the talent at both is worth the extra money . . .

Thanks, -P

Prokofiev

01-21-06, 00:14

Carlos,

I saw Casblanca and Divain on your map, but assumed they were strip clubs. Didn't check them out. Looks like you have Bush at the White House in Monterrey - just like in the US (joke).

But no, I wouldn't be willing to pay 2000MP unless it was something absolutely extraordinary. Not with so many places for less than 200. But I would pay 400-800 pesos for an upscale experience with a cute chica. Which is why I asked about Romanos - who advertise a 400 peso price.

Actually, 400 is cheap for most of Mexico. Guadalajara esteticas are usually 400-900MP for more or less the same experience. Same for Vera Cruz, Xalapa, Morelia. The under-200 cost of all these Monterrey massage parlors cannot be beat. Best bang-for-the-buck I have found, except for Buenos Aires and even there, less than $20US will not get you much of anything. The thing that makes Buenos Aires so appealing is the attitude and GFE of the women. For $50-$80USD you get 2-3 hours of relaxed sex at your hotel or apartment and the girls seldom are in a hurry to leave. Some will stay all night if you let them and wash the dishes in the morning!

Thanks for the post Big Tex. Remember, information is power. You will never pay 800 when you know that someone else only paid 100 for the same thing.

And thanks to Carlos and others, this board is one of the most useful on WSG.

Cheers, -P

Amoroso

01-22-06, 10:17

I was in Monterrey for three days. I wanted to add my experiences to what already has pretty much been summed up well in this section already. My profound thanks to Prokofiev, Only after reading his reports I decided to check out Monterrey. Having visited several Mexican cities I agree with Proko that this is the mongering capital of Mexico. Apologize for my writing style. I’m stream of conscious, and unorganized. So in other words long ass report.

Hotel

I stayed at the Holiday Inn (Monterey Centro) on Padre Mier. It was nice staying in a classier hotel, service was great. Internet wireless service, No extra charge. I ate at Vips, and WoolWorths for breakfast normally. American style coffee in the Plaza Galena Morelos, The Hotel Bar had many Gringo visitors, nice Happy hour drink pricing. Parking in the rear. Many Vigilantes guarding the place at night ended up costing me lot’s of problems getting a girl upstairs on Sat Night. Usually I stay at a Cockroach invested noisy 4th rate hotel, In order to not get any crap about late night visitors. This place is NOT girl friendly.

Baila de Tables

I have never been to a city that had more strip clubs than Monterrey. Granted like has been mentioned before the class of girls vary significantly. I was told by one taxi that many clubs were loaded with many beautiful girls from SA (Venezuela, Colombia, Brazil, Etc) The Mexican Migra comes in periodically and flushes them out.

Matehuala

I love this place, it’s dirty and sluttish, and the girls range from obese to anorexic. Each with it’s own set of admirers. The lights are practically non existent. The best place to see is where you go downstairs into the privados. Some girls are popular they come up, and immediately go back down again with a new client. It is wild seeing the dancers move from one side of the dance floor to the others and the clients are sitting there will stand/grab/sit, kind of like being at a stadium, and watching the wave at a ball game. These guys just maul these women who stick there ass out at them then quickly pull away once the finger gets in. A girl has probably had 4 dozen fingers up her ass by the end of night. (And all they ever do is wipe with a napkin). Worst yet for the girls is that no one tips.

I took Tatiana downstairs, she works here with her sister, when I asked if I could do them both she said her sister is not that good (How’s that for a quick come back?) She has a baby from a Gringo monger that’s like a year old. I paid $50 Pesos to go down, an then $250 Pesos for her plus $150 P for “dances”, and $30 P for condom. (I used my condoms but they still charge) Great energetic fun with lot’s of Spanish nasty talk. She looks like Selma Hayek’s less fortunate sister. Hot curvy body. BB was on the menu.

I took Maritza next, she can yell like no one else. Every four minutes the door guy will yell the dancers name and ask if they want more time. She would ask me, first, and since I’m enjoying pounding the hell out of it, I whisper “claro que si” she yells back at the guy “Si una mas” You could hear her out side I’m sure. Same price for this round booty babe.

You’re some what limited in your posiciones in the Privados. There is basically two cafeteria chairs available each with about 1 micron of vinyl cushion. Basically you go in drop your pants, and she starts playing with you. She will do CG, Perrito, and reverse CG. (If any one has had some luck with different positions please share) You have to understand that your placing your naked ass where some one else’s was a few minutes before (If your lucky it’s still warm ) When the place is packed downstairs it’s almost surreal. Your like in some giant orgy and the fun thing is that some girls will tease each other while your slamming them from behind.

Infinito

I liked this bar. It had TV’s screens everywhere that were showing the playoff games on. It’s seems that Mexicanos are more into Football these days than years ago.
I met the manager here medium size fellow with huge barrel chest. He was extremely helpful pointing out girls he had particularly heard good reports about. With out me asking he went and asked to girls to take “good” care of me.

I took Katia up first, (26 years old) nice prosthetic chest with round ass. Total sweetheart, worked at AB in Tijuana, but did not like all of the pressure there. $50 to get in $250 Pesos for her, after wards $150 P for songs/condom. Took her to my favorite cell. It’s in the farthest corner as you go in, it’s got a fan in there that let’s in lots of light during the daytime.

Next was Azul 19 year mother of two. You could not tell from looking at her tight body. She was very porno in the “cell” She insisted on $500 P for the deed. I told her what others charged and she started telling me all the reasons why she is worth more. They were great reasons, so I was all over it. CBJ, FS. At one point she is standing in her tall hooker heals each hand raised high holding the door way, while I was behind her. Very sexy pose with her sticking her ass up for me. She would reach around and spread her cheeks. (She would be a blast for an off site date). Once again +$150 P for the door man. ( I was so smiles, I even threw him a $20 Peso tip)

30 minutes later I’m down stairs watching her dance. Kind cool when she winks at you while some guy is trying to stick his fingers in her. I love that Nasty ness!

Obsessions

I went there to see if all I had read was accurate, It was. I, like others see no correlation to the price/girls. If anything the girls here seem to have a lot more attitude than I can put up with. I took a girl who looked new-ish wears glasses (Can’t remember her name) for a privado. The Privado looks like a basement den, with big cushy couches upholstered with material. It’s one big room with a DJ in there spinning up a tune for you and the gal. No privacy what so ever as he watches (and anyone else who might be in there) plus the couches are material so I can imagine how much DNA is buried in there. Yecch

The dance floor is in the middle of a large warehouse like room, definitely a place for higher scale clients, people who won’t feel safe with Matehuala crowd. The dance pole there has to be the highest I’ve ever seen, I saw a girl climb to the top and slide down which was just nuts given that it’s practically two stories high. I didn’t last long here.

Estéticas

I found the effort to find a gem in the estéticas to be exhausting. I never came close to finding a chica any where near as hot at these estéticas as I found in the strip clubs. At one point I was on an hour tour with a taxi cab going from place to place. The ride cost me $20 bucks and after visiting 7 different places, I found mostly middle ages gorditas I visited Casa Roma, Casa Verde, Euforia, Virgos, Ghiza, Faronas II, Yech, could not muster the courage to choose, except….

Ghiza

I found myself here one night around 2:OO AM and decided to choose a flaquita, since It was that or call it a night. I find that I tend to make my worst decisions when in this situation, and this was my worst experience of the trip. I negotiated down from $1000 to $800 for the hour (ripoff). When I was in the room I discovered that it was more for just about everything else you would want. The girl became a complete B*** I tried to make the most of it, but it’s hard to get a woody when your getting fucked as bad as I felt I was. No touch, no kiss, no suck, you get the picture. I can’t remember her name but she had a fresh tattoo of “LA Muerte” on her lower back. La Muerte is a close cousin of the devil and whom some people tend to turn to if they feel God has fucked them in some way. Could not find a taxi out of there at that time of night and I ended up walking towards the Crown Hotel along side of a dry river at 3:00AM I was on high alert just waiting for some bum to jump out of the weeds with a knife. Like I said worst part of my trip.

La Sol

Great resource for masaje services, each add has pictures of models of course when you arrive as I have described the quality is quite a few tiers lower.

I did see personal adverts from individual escorts offering services. I called one for a Saturday night date.

Her name is Laura and number is 044 81 1469 40 47. Advert starts with Mujer Bonita, She wanted $1000 Pesos for one hour of service BBBJ and CFS. No up selling every thing included. I asked how much for the night and the price was $3000 Pesos. This was for 6 hours of the following, Dinner, Dancing, and Sexo. I had a blast with this girl. 26 Years old, she is very animated looks like singer Gloria Trevi..

http://galeon.com/treviportadas/extra/gloria11.htm

She drove to the hotel we took a cab to a restaurant called La Catarina on Av. Morones Prieto 2525 Loma Larga

Very nice restaurant serving Mexican dishes with polished flare. I had fun learning about her life, great stories about a Mexican drug lord that would fly her and a bunch of other girls in a private plane for a party at a ranch some where near Nuevo Laredo. Guest’s would take them into bedrooms and fuck.

We went Salsa dancing afterwards at “Scandalo” which was fun for about 2 hours. Cool live music, hip Monterrey clientele.

Next up Sexo at the hotel and this is where shit got difficult with the army of vigilantes that I could not escape. She got all pissed when she had to show her Drivers license, claims she would lose her inheritance if her mom found out.
Anyways, finally get her upstairs and, lot’s of Sexo She is a screamer, tiny well proportioned body, She works out every day and is tight. The hotel room neighbors called and complained to the Mgmt, about the noise and as a result, she started moaning louder. That was some good shit.

Crown Hotel

I went there around 10 o’clock at night. There were mostly couples but a few single ladies to be had. They tended to be higher in the age range, but still very doable. I hooked up with a divorcee name of Elsie. 32 years old. She had an incredible rack, and was another work out buff. She surprised me out when I asked her to dance and she started to interrogate my marital status like a Nazi SS Agent. We danced till 2:00 and left together. I was close to high fiveing myself when she said good night. I wasn’t sure if I should be more aggressive or not, but she gave me her phone number. I’m probably an idiot for not inviting back to my hotel, but hey, I’m here paying for pussy right?

Dial a Servicio al Domicillo

I have no experience here with these. I pulled these out of the yellow pages and thought if I posted them some ambitious monger would try one;

Fantasy Massage
8115-4695 (some thing about there yellow pages add that tell me these chicks are hot)

Nefertiti
8301 0684

Colegialas
8134 6295 (Supposedly College students {probably remedial students})

Passion www.passion.com.mx
044 81 11 85 86 44

Le Famme
8191 1492

Maxim
8375-7535

Secrets
8375 2495

Extasis
81 8375 5603

Overall opinion

I recommend Monterrey. It’s a fairly modern town, with what seem to be less unemployment than other parts of Mexico. I felt safe here, and only got ripped off once from one taxi cab (Six dollars instead of two oh well). The people are friendly and helpful. I was able to see the Museo de Historia, and I enjoyed this clean city.

Amoroso

Porker

01-22-06, 13:42

Especially your recent posts, Prokoviev. I can remember when I first started venturing out in Monterrey, and how my enthusiasm for the scene was similar to yours. Thanks for the excellent posts.

Gotta differ with you on a few points, though: IMO, lookswise, the girls at the clubs are usually light years ahead of the girls at the masaje places, and the quality of the MP's gets worse all the time, particularly as the number of places grows and grows. It's impossible to staff all of those places. IMO, the attitudes of the girls have also declined to the point where it's unusual for me to have a hassle free and pleasant experience there anymore.

Part of this may be from MY particular approach, however, in that I tend to only like the places where a basic level of full service is customary for the quoted amount, i.e. covered BJ, TOP OFF, touching OK, multiple positions, and 25+ minutes minimum AFTER the shower. Anyplace that doesn't offer all of these things is, IMO, a clip joint and the girls working there (and the loser ass manager) should be avoided. I don't CARE if their attitude improves if you tip them an extra 100 pesos, it's the principle of the thing. The problem is that these places draw lots of volume as they advertise heavily and their promocion prices are cheap (almost always 150 pesos or less). It shouldn't surprise that many of these places have the same ownership.

I STILL might partake in those places if they had more attractive girls. When Prokoviev says it's "hit and miss" in those places, I think he's being kind. IMO it's more like "maybe you can get lucky". You indeed CAN find new girls from time to time, but the average MP 'chica' is on the wrong side of 25 and has long since lost the carbo bomb battle. Sure, you can get laid cheap, but finding a decent looking girl that also gives a good session with no high pressure upselling is NOT easy.

As for the clubs: Screwing in a privado booth is certainly not for everybody, and I also find it fairly expensive for the small amount of time and bizarre surroundings, but there are girls in some of the bars around Villagran that are just SMOKING hot. They really do come in all shapes and sizes, though girls under 21 are not very common in those places. If I was a visitor to MTY I would definitely be planning on banging a BUNCH of Infinito/Matehula/El Cielo girls. Think of it as amazingly high mileage lapdances in the States or something and it's impossible to be disappointed.

I agree that salidas (barfining girls for a couple hours at a hotel) are too expensive for MY budget, but the GFE you can get out of it with an often GORGEOUS girl would make it awfully tempting if I was only in town for a visit. Where covered EVERYTHING is mandatory in the club, kissing, DATY and often BBBJ will often be standard in salidas. In many places, such an encounter with a beautiful chica would seem like a bargain for 130 USD.

Re: girls that won't meet you after club hours, that was a blow off, but not an uncommon one. Most girls live with either boyfriends, kids or some type of family situations, and they are expected home at certain time. Getting them out of the club outside their usual shift is often difficult, and maybe impossible the first time you meet someone. Of course there are girls that won't do salidas even if you offer to pay the fee to the bar as well.

Prokoviev, a couple places you might want to try next visit are the place formerly known as Hooters (I'm blanking on the new name. They have a website for the new name too), which is on the 800 block of Villagomez between Arteaga and C. Salazar. The lineup is about the same as other places, but they always have at least a handful of girls, and your 150 pesos gets you all of the things I listed at the beginning of this post. A tip for extras is for just that, EXTRA service, and the girls have an excellent work ethic there. They also have king size mattresses instead of small massage tables. I also like Faraonas, but don't you just HATE those tiny tables they have there?

Another place that has been GREAT in the past but now is just a bit above average is "Hot Service", at 1031 Arteaga, between Diego Montemayor and Doblado. The fee there is 200 pesos and the girls will usually politely ask for an upsell of 50-100 pesos, but will still generally deliver a quality session if you politely refuse. Time is usually a no hassle 30 minutes too.

Prokoviev, I admire your adventuring spirit. Many gringo visitors to MTY never make it to 10% of the places you've already posted about here. Monterrey can indeed be a VERY fun town if you like action and have some money to spread around. For the person that has only ever done border towns, a visit to Monterrey should definitely be a good experience.

MonterreyDude

01-22-06, 20:10

I agree with Porkers post.
Thing with the MPs is that they are so irregular in quality and never consistent, that the next time you are here you'll be surprised to notice that everything has changes: girls, policies, prices, extras.
One thing is that you guys struck gold on your visit... good for you.

And another I never do is spoil the girls.
Amoroso: 500 pesos for a FS with an Infinito girl??? If a girl quotes me that price I leave them standing there. I don't care if she's a looker or Miss Universe but I don't pay over 300 pesos.
You have to understand that Infinito and Matehuala are NOT high class clubs to ask for those prices.
My friend, they caught you, hook, line and sinker with that one..... worse case scenario is that it worked once, they are going to start trying to charge gringos that price (which they are doing, you are not the first) and start making a trend out of it.

By the way, any of you guys posting here at the Infinito on Wednesday the 18th? I sort of noticed a mature eyeglass wearing , short beard guy sitting on a table at the door that leads to the stairs more or less chatting with one of the managers OR the same Wednesday on the Obsession at lunch time????????????????

Especially your recent posts, Prokoviev. I can remember when I first started venturing out in Monterrey, and how my enthusiasm for the scene was similar to yours. Thanks for the excellent posts.

Gotta differ with you on a few points, though: IMO, lookswise, the girls at the clubs are usually light years ahead of the girls at the masaje places, and the quality of the MP's gets worse all the time, particularly as the number of places grows and grows. It's impossible to staff all of those places. IMO, the attitudes of the girls have also declined to the point where it's unusual for me to have a hassle free and pleasant experience there anymore......

Prokofiev

01-22-06, 21:02

Suddenly we have a series of good posts! Must have been the holidays slowing things down.

I always try to post from the point of view of a newbie thinking about where to go, how to get there and how things work. I value good "hard" info - chica's names, prices, addresses, tips, servicves and telephone numbers. So that anyone reading this could easily recreate - or avoid - what I have just done. Reports like - "had a blast at some club with a smoking-hot chica" doesn't help anyone. So I tend to be a little more analytical and give a lot of numbers . . .

"When Prokoviev says it's "hit and miss" in those places, I think he's being kind. IMO it's more like "maybe you can get lucky" -Porker

And from Amoroso . . . "I found the effort to find a gem in the estéticas to be exhausting. I never came close to finding a chica any where near as hot at these estéticas as I found in the strip clubs"

Well, I completely agree and hopefully didn't mislead you. And beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and I am not that particular when it comes to women. But I did go back and add up the numbers from my week in Monterrey (yes, I take notes!). I saw 38 different chicas in the 200-peso esteticas. This does not include Romanos or Misses. Of these 38, I found 4 quite attractive (did 2) and another 7 acceptable (did 3). The remaining 27 were below even my "low" standards. So that is about 10% winners and at least 2/3's unacceptable. And it will be much worse for you if you are picky. So please, take these odds into account.

But I DID want to post that you can find a below-200 peso place that will honor that price for a gringo and give very acceptable service without any upselling. The amount of effort it takes to find the right girl may not be worth it to you. Different strokes . . .

As far as chica beauty goes, it seems some guys love the "porn star/ stripper look" - tons of make-up, fake tits, big platform shoes. That just doesn't work for me. I prefer the "normal, girl-next-door" look. Even the "Mom-next-door" look! Notice some of the girls at Matehuala. At least 3-4 during the day shift are very chubby and not that cute. Yet they all have their admirers and fans and seem to get privados. There is a girl with glasses and a school-girl outfit. The truth is she is a bit chubby and not a real beauty - yet she is in constant demand and I find her hot as well, although I was never able to get a privado with her. She was constantly downstairs. The most popular girls are not always the prettiest. And having hit 50, the difference between a 21 yo and a 27 yo chica is nothing to me. They are both young girls. But if you are only 25, the difference may seem huge. A lot depends on personal taste. But I still agree - 65% of the MP chicas are unacceptable, even to me. But I don't mind window shopping. That is part of the fun.

"I also like Faraonas, but don't you just HATE those tiny tables they have there?"

Yes, I would prefer a nice bed with new, clean sheets. But if the padded massage tables with a clean sheet bother you, how can you enjoy the privado areas of the clubs with no sheets and only a flimsy folding chair?? With your pants hanging around your ankles? For that reason alone, the massage parlors are so much more comfortable. It all depends to what you are comparing it to. I like to remove my clothes and lay down. And see and touch the woman I am with. All so much easier at an estetica. Best of all would be my hotel room.

"And have in mind at MPs that there is always a starting price that includes just the room and a quickie... you start upping the ante with the girl to get extras, like a better deal, bbbj, daty, etc"

Yes Carlos, I agree. But it seemed that almost everyplace offers complete chica nudity, CBJ and 2 or 3 positions for the basic price. That is a very good deal and covers just about as much as I can handle in 30 minutes. BBBJ is nice, but I don't mind everything covered. I realize that getting a STD from BBBJ is relatively rare, but I sleep better at night this way. Same with DATY. I love it with my girlfriends, but I lose my appetite with the pros. Maybe that's just me.

"I am a recent American relo to Monterrey and am just getting the nerve up to explore the scene. Thank you Prokofiev for your excellent reports"

Hey thanks. Hopefully all these posts give others the "nerve" to go out and explore other places. Then PLEASE, give a complete report on this board to help out the rest of us. Information is Power.

Good luck to all -P

Porker

01-23-06, 01:57

Hooters is now called Signore, I believe, and the website is http://signore.com.mx/principal.html While the faces are masked, the photos there are fairly representative of what the average low end masaje chica in Monterrey looks like.

Prokoviev, since you don't mind massage tables, you might want to try Status II, 1697-A Madero (upstairs). They generally have quite attractive girls. Price starts at 200 pesos between 10 AM-10 PM, 300 for the overnight shift. The girls will be very cold and impersonal for that price and tipping is recommended if you want any sort of decent session like you'd normally expect to be standard in lower end places.

While you're in that vicinity, T-K-CH strip club is on the corner and they usually have very attractive dancers. Voltaje MP is directly around the corner (to the left) as well at 1004 J.G. Leal, and I recommend that place as a no B.S. establishment with good service for 200 pesos IF (always the big IF with the MP's) you can find someone whose looks are pleasing to you.

Re: "smoking hotties", I personally HATE enhanced bodies myself, and as many know, my weakness is BIG natural tits. But when I refer to "smoking hotties", I'm generally talking about girls that are under 23 or so, no extra jiggle to them, cute to beautiful face, and a naturally voluptuous body with a small waist. I'd guess that on each shift at Infinito, El Cielo, Givenchy and Matehuala there would be anywhere from 2-7 (the higher numbers at Infinito) girls that fit that description. If you need names, Valeria afternoon shift at Infinito is the prototype (though she has a tasteful boob job. Looks and feels pretty real). She should do everything for 300 pesos.

Porker

01-23-06, 02:11

Amoroso, great post as well. I winced a bit hearing about your high-end MP experience. You'd expect when paying those kind of prices to be treated well, but it sounds like they just played you for a sucker. I am a bit immune to that because I'm just a poor guy who couldn't afford the initial fee in the first place, but I do feel for the guys that get ripped off like that. As Carlos has recently recommended, you'll spend a bit more than that at a place like Divain (next to KanKun night club), but it's almost guaranteed to be a good experience in nice, extremely comfortable surroundings.

With all the great options to get laid in Monterrey, the one thing that I think is really lacking are clubs like the border towns have where you can take a girl to a room next door with a bed and a shower for 60-80 bucks for 30-45 minutes. While you get hotter girls than you'll almost ever get in the border town Zona by doing salidas at the clubs like Matehuala and Infinito, and you get a quality 2 hour session with them, you'll also be paying double what you'd pay at the border.

Sun Devil

01-24-06, 11:41

This is the first time I have been to Monterrey and I have to agree that the streets are a lot cleaner and the infrastructure a lot more sedate and elegant than those of the typical Mexican frontier towns, such as Juarez and Nuevo Laredo.

I have gone to both Mahtehualas and Infinito. They remind me of the clubs in Nogales where there is cafeteria chair to have intimate actions with the chicas. This is the reason why I don´t go to Nogales much because I prefer having sex on a bed. I tried a girl named Maribel at Mahtehualas and I was never comforable having sex with her. When she tried cowgirl on me, she pinched my legs to that point that they soon had no feelings to them. The only way I was able to finish was for me to stand up while she gave me a CBJ. Her method was pretty good and I would recommend her for that.

As this was the case with these clubs, thanks to Prokofiev list as well as Carlos Perez´s map, I went to a number of massage parlors as well as other establishments with beds. My budget for this trip was $500 per day, so these were the more expensive places of Monterrey. These included Misses, Romanos, Divain, and Poisson.

At Misses, I paid 2000 pesos for complete service and had an extremely attractive 19 year old girl named Brenda. She was very svelte and we had a good time together, including 69 and DATY. She enjoyed having a finger up her butt during the 69, but stopped me when I started inserting my thumb. All this occurred on a soft king size bed.

It was difficult finding this place since I expected a stair way outside the building. Instead, one has to go inside the garage and climb the stairs. Misses is door number 2. I will probably go back there again tomorrow since there was another girl that I wanted to try. The girls working there are between 19 to 25 and none were fat.

After Misses, I walked about 12 blocks on Tapia to Romanos. The girls here were again attractive and the cost for complete service was 800 pesos. I took a girl named Angela (Angelica?), a very pretty rubia who I would recommend. Again the girls working here were young and fairly attractive.

Aftewards, I went Poisson, a high end strip club on Zaragoza and Arreola. The dancers here were extremely attractive, almost Playboy caliber. The cost to take these girls to a room for sex was 2000 pesos. You have to climb 3 flights of stairs and the room reminded me of the karaoke clubs in Manila and Quezon City where there is couple of sofas and a table in the middle. I chose a girl named Diana, a rubia with fairly large natural tits. Again, DATY was included and we had sex on a comforable sofa.

For those wanting to take a girl to your hotel room this is the place to go. She mentioned that she would like to go to my hotel room after her shift but I declined because I like sleeping alone. I have taken girls toda la noche in Juarez, Manila and Nuevo Laredo and having somebody move next to me while trying to sleep was something that I did not like. Plus who knows what is going to happen tomorrow--I like to have my options open.

I went to Divain afterwards because they are only a couple of blocks east from where I am staying and I wanted to know their mode of operation. The cost for full service is $150 and the rooms that they have look pretty comfortable. The decor of this place reminds me of Air Force One in Parañaque in the Philippines, with its chandeliers and mirrors. I just wanted to know the cost of the place and how the girls looked like so I did not partake in any activities. Plus I would have surpassed my daily budget. Tomorrow is another day for mongering.

By the way, I think the city of Monterrey would be good one for pursuing non working girls activities. I was stared at like a piece of meat a couple of times on the streets. If one has the time and patience, getting a good looking novia here would be easy, especially if one looks like a well to do foreigner. The only place that I met fellow Americans were at the Macroplaza and these were senior citizens. Thus one would have that exotic factor if you´re a young Amerian male in this city, especially if you are walking by yourself.

Again I would like to thank Prokofiev, Carlos Perez, as well as other posters in helping me enjoy this trip so far.

Prokofiev

01-24-06, 17:00

Hey Sun Devil,

Very good report on your activities, but . . .

Are you telling us that you had sex at Matehuala, then paid 2000 to get laid at Misses, walked to Romanos and screwed another chica for 800 and finished up with more sex at Poisson in the same night??????

And you budget $500US each day??

Sounds like Bill Gates escaping from Sex Prison! Maybe I'm just getting old, but I honestly can't imagine screwing 4 times a night on a trip. Or even at home when I was 18. I am quite impressed. You have one hell of an appetite . . .

Going to Misses was a little scary for me as well since there is no sign outside and you have to enter thru the garage of someone's house. I was concerned that it wasn't the right place, that some dog would attack me or even some guy with a gun would confront me with what the hell was I doing at his house! But that is the power of this Forum. The experiences of others makes it easy for the rest of us. And the 800 price at Romanos - was that for a full hour? Did they have a 400 peso price?

Keep us informed on any new places and experiences. I will be back in Monterrey next month, if only for a single night and I will try something new . . .

Cheers, -P

MonterreyDude

01-24-06, 17:39

Sun Devil... Poisson is NOT the place to take out girls... price for take out is over 300 dlls. And glad to hear you don't care for Toda la Noche since the girl's shift ends at 5 am.. make it more like Toda la Madrugada (All Sunrise). They'll leave after 2 hours, no more.
Even a toda la noche if you pay the outragous price that the Poisson charges, mean for the girls till 5 am, cause they have to go back to the club to get their daily income.

Sun Devil: I hope you are reading this... Unspongebob (poster of this forum) and myself, we will be having lunch at the Prestige (on my map, a couple of blocks away from your hotel) at 2 pm...
If you want to go to a 5 star really upscale club for a great lunch buffet that wont go over 10 dlls, well, join us!

This is the first time I have been to Monterrey and I have to agree that the streets are a lot cleaner and the infrastructure a lot more sedate and elegant than those of the typical Mexican frontier towns, such as Juarez and Nuevo Laredo.

I have gone to both Mahtehualas and Infinito. They remind me of the clubs in Nogales where there is cafeteria chair to have intimate actions with the chicas. This is the reason why I don´t go to Nogales much because I prefer having sex on a bed. I tried a girl named Maribel at Mahtehualas and I was never comforable having sex with her. When she tried cowgirl on me, she pinched my legs to that point that they soon had no feelings to them. The only way I was able to finish was for me to stand up while she gave me a CBJ. Her method was pretty good and I would recommend her for that.

As this was the case with these clubs, thanks to Prokofiev list as well as Carlos Perez´s map, I went to a number of massage parlors as well as other establishments with beds. My budget for this trip was $500 per day, so these were the more expensive places of Monterrey. These included Misses, Romanos, Divain, and Poisson.

At Misses, I paid 2000 pesos for complete service and had an extremely attractive 19 year old girl named Brenda. She was very svelte and we had a good time together, including 69 and DATY. She enjoyed having a finger up her butt during the 69, but stopped me when I started inserting my thumb. All this occurred on a soft king size bed.

It was difficult finding this place since I expected a stair way outside the building. Instead, one has to go inside the garage and climb the stairs. Misses is door number 2. I will probably go back there again tomorrow since there was another girl that I wanted to try. The girls working there are between 19 to 25 and none were fat.

After Misses, I walked about 12 blocks on Tapia to Romanos. The girls here were again attractive and the cost for complete service was 800 pesos. I took a girl named Angela (Angelica?), a very pretty rubia who I would recommend. Again the girls working here were young and fairly attractive.

Aftewards, I went Poisson, a high end strip club on Zaragoza and Arreola. The dancers here were extremely attractive, almost Playboy caliber. The cost to take these girls to a room for sex was 2000 pesos. You have to climb 3 flights of stairs and the room reminded me of the karaoke clubs in Manila and Quezon City where there is couple of sofas and a table in the middle. I chose a girl named Diana, a rubia with fairly large natural tits. Again, DATY was included and we had sex on a comforable sofa.

For those wanting to take a girl to your hotel room this is the place to go. She mentioned that she would like to go to my hotel room after her shift but I declined because I like sleeping alone. I have taken girls toda la noche in Juarez, Manila and Nuevo Laredo and having somebody move next to me while trying to sleep was something that I did not like. Plus who knows what is going to happen tomorrow--I like to have my options open.

I went to Divain afterwards because they are only a couple of blocks east from where I am staying and I wanted to know their mode of operation. The cost for full service is $150 and the rooms that they have look pretty comfortable. The decor of this place reminds me of Air Force One in Parañaque in the Philippines, with its chandeliers and mirrors. I just wanted to know the cost of the place and how the girls looked like so I did not partake in any activities. Plus I would have surpassed my daily budget. Tomorrow is another day for mongering.

By the way, I think the city of Monterrey would be good one for pursuing non working girls activities. I was stared at like a piece of meat a couple of times on the streets. If one has the time and patience, getting a good looking novia here would be easy, especially if one looks like a well to do foreigner. The only place that I met fellow Americans were at the Macroplaza and these were senior citizens. Thus one would have that exotic factor if you´re a young Amerian male in this city, especially if you are walking by yourself.

Again I would like to thank Prokofiev, Carlos Perez, as well as other posters in helping me enjoy this trip so far.

Firebird

01-25-06, 02:26

I have been reading some recent fantastic reports in the MTY forum. I have a first time trip to Mexico - Monterrey and have been trying to get as much info as possible. My usual trips take me to Asia - Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, Hong Kong - where talent is plentyful and inexpensive. Not fond of the MP scene, my mode is to go to a club, find a "friendly" girl with great "bod" and the GFE feeling and bring back to hotel for some LT fun. I am sure reviewing all the recent reports, I will be able to select such club.

Question: I will be staying at the SAFI VALLE ORIENTE hotel - Diego Rivera #333.

Can someone tell my if I will have any problems to bring a girl to my room?
Is this a "decent" hotel?

Concerning "talent" agencies - can I have "recommendation" of the "top" two that will provide top talent?
As I said, my knowledge is totally lacking as far as the scene in Mexico is concerned. I have some working knowledge of spanish and have travelled in Spain - Thanks for the "feedback" - firebird

MonterreyDude

01-25-06, 03:30

Firebird
Monterrey is far too diffrent form the SE Asia scene, starting with the city. We are the third largest in Mexico (3.5 mil) and one of the safest in the country.
If you are used to SEA prices, Monterrey will be to expensive for you, but judging that you have been to Spain I can say that we are below what you pay in Spain.
Comparatibly speaking, an all nighter might cost you 40 dlls in SEA, here it will cost you (if you can find them) 400 dlls.
A full service for 2 hours will be like 150 dlls average... well, that might be a good reference.
Just let me tell you that action at the clubs is so good for the girls that leaving the premises is not an option cause they can get more money at a club that leaving with a customer. Of course there are clubs like the Infinito and the Matehuala (and others) where you can get good talent to entertain you and they will go for 1350 dlls for 2 hours.
But I have bad news for you: the Safi hotel is a brand new GT hotel, in the upper class neighborhood of Garza Garcia, so I dont think they will allow company, as do most of the hotels in Monterrey.
Check it out in this link... you'll get the point:

http://www.safihotel.com/secciones/valleoriente.htm

So I guess inroom entertainment is out of the question.... but you have read the posts. Monterrey is full of incredible options. Your hotel is a little way out the clubs scene area (8-10 minutes away), but it is nearly on a stright line to get to them.

I have been reading some recent fantastic reports in the MTY forum. I have a first time trip to Mexico - Monterrey and have been trying to get as much info as possible. My usual trips take me to Asia - Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, Hong Kong - where talent is plentyful and inexpensive. Not fond of the MP scene, my mode is to go to a club, find a "friendly" girl with great "bod" and the GFE feeling and bring back to hotel for some LT fun. I am sure reviewing all the recent reports, I will be able to select such club.

Question: I will be staying at the SAFI VALLE ORIENTE hotel - Diego Rivera #333.

Can someone tell my if I will have any problems to bring a girl to my room?
Is this a "decent" hotel?

Concerning "talent" agencies - can I have "recommendation" of the "top" two that will provide top talent?
As I said, my knowledge is totally lacking as far as the scene in Mexico is concerned. I have some working knowledge of spanish and have travelled in Spain - Thanks for the "feedback" - firebird

Firebird

01-25-06, 04:08

Sr. Carlos - thanks for that super fast feed back. You are correct - an all nighter in KL, HK or Singapore with a gorgeous girl is cheap, but I just spent several days in Tokyo where prices are quite high so I am not reluctant to spend $$$ when needed to get what I am looking for. Too bad about the hotel - was arranged for me - not my choice. I will have number of days and nights to "marvel" and "experience" at all the Monterrrey has to offer. By the way Asian girls, Brasilian girls, and Mexican girls are up there. Time to "brush up" on my Spanish. Muchisimas Gracias
Take Care - firebird

Sun Devil

01-25-06, 05:26

Carlos Perez,

Sorry to have missed you at Prestige. I did not get the chance to get on the internet until now, after 2200. I just got back from the place after meeting up with a 21 year old chica named Ellie. She first indicated that full service would cost 2000 pesos plus 1000 pesos more for her service. After I balked at this price, she said that I did not have to pay the 1000 pesos for her because I am muy guapo and joven. If I had been muy feo and viejo, she would have charged me extra. I gather that 2000 pesos was the standard rate for everybody regardless of age and looks, she just wanted to get more money out of some foreigner.

Nonetheless, she was a very good provider, a GFE experience with French kissing, necking, and lots of tongue action on both of our parts. The place where we went to was a room with a couch, a loveseat and a sofa. There was a charge of 50 pesos for the condom and another one (200 pesos?, I forget) for the guard to keep a look out for the cops, just in case they come in and raid the place. Is this is another BS charge that most clubs infringed on their customer? By the way, the room we were in had walls that were paper thin. We heard the couple next door moaning and groaning while doing their sex act. We both laugh at this, I guess out of embarassment.

Sun Devil

01-25-06, 05:41

Prokofiev,

The charge at Romanos was 400 pesos for 30 minutes and 800 pesos for one hour. If one is inclined, they charge 1200 pesos if you want to bring the girl back to your hotel room, apparently regardless of distance, since this price includes taxi fare.

The girl I had at the place was Angelica. I was not able to finish when I was with her, obviously because I had enjoyed previous companies prior to meeting her. Instead, I concentrated on satisfying her via oral sex. According to her, she came about 4 times, and I believe her because of the way her pussy contracted around the two fingers I used to stimulate her G-spot, plus the amount of juice that she produced around that area. She had a satisfied look on her face afterwards and said that she was very happy, softly kissing me on the mouth afterwards. Hey, if I couldn´t come, at least I want my partner to have that experience.

Sorry if I sound like a Bill Gates away from sex prison, but I enjoy having a good time while on vacation because in the US I pretty much work all the time, sometimes working 12 days in a row. Moreover, I do not need to spend an inappropriate amount of money buying material goods in order to impress American women, i.e. fancy cars, because I don´t want to. In a word, American women are anathema to me. Instead I save one-third of my salary for my trips and hobby, although I still do have a weakness for nice shoes and clothes.

Anyhope I hope that you will have a good time when you get back to Monterrey. Too bad it will be only for one night.

MonterreyDude

01-25-06, 07:17

Eli at the Prestige... we really need to talk my friend.
Ok Sun Devil. Tomorrow Unspongebob and me, we are going to the Obsession for lunch. Even if both are owned by the same family and both are upscale... they are both light years away in the way the girls work.
Wanna join us????

Carlos Perez,

Sorry to have missed you at Prestige. I did not get the chance to get on the internet until now, after 2200. I just got back from the place after meeting up with a 21 year old chica named Ellie. She first indicated that full service would cost 2000 pesos plus 1000 pesos more for her service. After I balked at this price, she said that I did not have to pay the 1000 pesos for her because I am muy guapo and joven. If I had been muy feo and viejo, she would have charged me extra. I gather that 2000 pesos was the standard rate for everybody regardless of age and looks, she just wanted to get more money out of some foreigner.

Nonetheless, she was a very good provider, a GFE experience with French kissing, necking, and lots of tongue action on both of our parts. The place where we went to was a room with a couch, a loveseat and a sofa. There was a charge of 50 pesos for the condom and another one (200 pesos?, I forget) for the guard to keep a look out for the cops, just in case they come in and raid the place. Is this is another BS charge that most clubs infringed on their customer? By the way, the room we were in had walls that were paper thin. We heard the couple next door moaning and groaning while doing their sex act. We both laugh at this, I guess out of embarassment.

Big Tex

01-25-06, 21:18

In my first report, I mentioned that I am fairly new to living in Monterrey and it took me a while to get my nerve up to try the scene. Well, let me tell ya fellas, my shyness is gone! Can't wait to explore much more.

Porker, while he mentioned that MP's aren't his thing, he did mention Signore and that caught my attention. http://signore.com.mx

Went by during lunch time and was a little concerned by the appearance outside. It has a hand painted sign done by someone with crappy penmanship. Oh well, my curiosity, or horniness got the best of me and I went in. What I saw blew my mind. The scene was like a stereotypical *****house scene out of a movie. There were a couple polite young women working the front desk. Behind the reception area is a large room where the chicas in waithing are. A couple were chatting with eachother, one was sitting there with her top off, and another was completely naked applying lotion to her legs! Wow, all this right when you walk in the door. Make no mistake, this is not a massage parlor, this is a *****house without pretense.

Now about the quality of the selection. This was on a tuesday around mid-day and there were about 8 chicas in the parlor. None were ugly, but none were model material. There were about 4 of them who were good enough. "Good enough" is what I am looking for in a place like this. (I'm sure some of you guys know what I mean.)

Took a tall curvy Rubia back to the room. Sorry, while my Spanish conversational skills are ok, I don't have an ear for Mexican names. The room was large and fairly clean with a bathroom, shower, tv and large bed on a concrete platform. She brought in a fresh sheet and towels. So far so good.

She asked if I want to watch porno. When it comes to dirty sex, in for a penny, in for a pound. She turned on the porn and left for a couple minutes. She got back and took off all her clothes. Surprisingly nice body. Nice and smooth, no cellulite and nice tits and stomach.

Very good technique and very friendly. Got bbbj for an extra 100 pesos. Enthusiastic sex in three positions.

Afterwards I asked her if CIM and facials were on the menu. Forgot to ask the prices, but I'm sure I'll find out soon.

All in all, a hell of a deal for 250 pesos (what's that, about $23 US) Ridiculously cheap.

I highly recommend this for a cheap thrill. If you want something more upscale or model material, stay the hell away.

Next on my list, Infinito per Carlos' recommendation.

Thanks all for the great recent posts!

MonterreyDude

01-26-06, 18:18

Yes Big Tex... do try the Infinito.
Best time, around 7 pm.
Optimal: 10:30 pm when both the afternoon and night shift are around...
(By the way, do you know where it is??? one block away from the Signore???)
And noooooooo! Signore is not a *****house.
*****houses, we still have a few nice looking ones, like the Divain, the Casablanca and the forgoten Borrado and the Alfredos (full of ugly girls).

In my first report, I mentioned that I am fairly new to living in Monterrey and it took me a while to get my nerve up to try the scene. Well, let me tell ya fellas, my shyness is gone! Can't wait to explore much more.

Porker, while he mentioned that MP's aren't his thing, he did mention Signore and that caught my attention. http://signore.com.mx

Went by during lunch time and was a little concerned by the appearance outside. It has a hand painted sign done by someone with crappy penmanship. Oh well, my curiosity, or horniness got the best of me and I went in. What I saw blew my mind. The scene was like a stereotypical *****house scene out of a movie. There were a couple polite young women working the front desk. Behind the reception area is a large room where the chicas in waithing are. A couple were chatting with eachother, one was sitting there with her top off, and another was completely naked applying lotion to her legs! Wow, all this right when you walk in the door. Make no mistake, this is not a massage parlor, this is a *****house without pretense.

Now about the quality of the selection. This was on a tuesday around mid-day and there were about 8 chicas in the parlor. None were ugly, but none were model material. There were about 4 of them who were good enough. "Good enough" is what I am looking for in a place like this. (I'm sure some of you guys know what I mean.)

Took a tall curvy Rubia back to the room. Sorry, while my Spanish conversational skills are ok, I don't have an ear for Mexican names. The room was large and fairly clean with a bathroom, shower, tv and large bed on a concrete platform. She brought in a fresh sheet and towels. So far so good.

She asked if I want to watch porno. When it comes to dirty sex, in for a penny, in for a pound. She turned on the porn and left for a couple minutes. She got back and took off all her clothes. Surprisingly nice body. Nice and smooth, no cellulite and nice tits and stomach.

Very good technique and very friendly. Got bbbj for an extra 100 pesos. Enthusiastic sex in three positions.

Afterwards I asked her if CIM and facials were on the menu. Forgot to ask the prices, but I'm sure I'll find out soon.

All in all, a hell of a deal for 250 pesos (what's that, about $23 US) Ridiculously cheap.

I highly recommend this for a cheap thrill. If you want something more upscale or model material, stay the hell away.

Next on my list, Infinito per Carlos' recommendation.

Thanks all for the great recent posts!

Amoroso

01-26-06, 20:01

Porker I was suckered at Ghiza for sure, like I said It was the downside of the trip, everything else was completely worth every peso I paid. I would only hope that my report will put a dent in there business.

Carlos, from my perspective I am in town for a short while and look to maximize my mongering before coming back to where I live, San Francisco, where price for pussy is on the expensive side. $200 will get you a gorgeous 21 year old Korean. $350 gets you a hot Blonde Barbie. You can imagine the bargain I find when traveling, to Mexico.

Still I totally understand where your coming from, I wouldn’t want visitors coming into town and paying twice the asking price, of what I pay here now. (That would be Japanese Business men who come into town and plunk down a couple of g’s for date with a hottie)

Sounds like I need to make more trips to Monterey, what a shit load of mongering possibilities you lucky folks that live there, have. I was in Cali Colombia this last Thanksgiving, that town also has a shit load of MP's as well.(Of course you want to talk about bargains, $18 dollars for a half hour)

I also monger quite a bit in Mexicali, as well The dancers there at Giau Giau, and Miau Miau's are much hotter than I saw in Monterrey, but they have much more atttiude and will laugh you off if you offer any less than $200.

Carlos the Taxi driver told me that there are street walkers at and around the bus station. Are they scary or what?

Thanks great posts guys keep it up.

Amoroso

Minnesotah

01-27-06, 07:18

If I wanna explore Monterrey as a new playground, which public transportation would recommend me to use from Nuevo Laredo to Monterrey? I am somewhat confused since it seems to exist more than one bus line, plus the trains. Thanks in advance. I will post you a fresh report as soon I will return from MTY.

MonterreyDude

01-27-06, 08:50

Minnesotah: check this link...

http://www.gruposenda.com/index.htm

It'll give you plenty of info departures, time, etc... on how to get via bus via diffrent buslines to Monterrey.

If I wanna explore Monterrey as a new playground, which public transportation would recommend me to use from Nuevo Laredo to Monterrey? I am somewhat confused since it seems to exist more than one bus line, plus the trains. Thanks in advance. I will post you a fresh report as soon I will return from MTY.

Minnesotah

01-27-06, 19:27

Carlos: Thanks a lot. It helps me a lot since I don't want to drive on the mexican side of the border.

Also, I forgot to ask you guys, as a northern gringo, can I trust the local food, drinks and beer without getting sick or it is just urban legends?

MonterreyDude

01-27-06, 22:24

MMMmmm
Minesotah... what can I say, lots of guys coming down here eat at regular food places and nothing happend to them.... I don't know where you are going to stay, but all around the city you can find American franchises, like Chilis, Applebees, Carls jr., McDonalds... food and drink is safe, yes.
Water, don't worry about it. Me, I buy bottled... just buy it at any convenience store.
Beer: alcohol will kill any bug in it. Just kidding... safe to drink.

Carlos: Thanks a lot. It helps me a lot since I don't want to drive on the mexican side of the border.

Also, I forgot to ask you guys, as a northern gringo, can I trust the local food, drinks and beer without getting sick or it is just urban legends?

MonterreyDude

01-27-06, 22:42

Streetwalkers near the bus station... yes, scary, yes.
There are 2 kinds here, both one block away in diffrent directions from the bus station. Both are bottom of the barrel kind... some are more open than others, some not as ugly as others, but I wouldn't touch them with 10 foot pole.

Porker I was suckered at Ghiza for sure, like I said It was the downside of the trip, everything else was completely worth every peso I paid. I would only hope that my report will put a dent in there business.

Carlos, from my perspective I am in town for a short while and look to maximize my mongering before coming back to where I live, San Francisco, where price for pussy is on the expensive side. $200 will get you a gorgeous 21 year old Korean. $350 gets you a hot Blonde Barbie. You can imagine the bargain I find when traveling, to Mexico.

Still I totally understand where your coming from, I wouldn’t want visitors coming into town and paying twice the asking price, of what I pay here now. (That would be Japanese Business men who come into town and plunk down a couple of g’s for date with a hottie)

Sounds like I need to make more trips to Monterey, what a shit load of mongering possibilities you lucky folks that live there, have. I was in Cali Colombia this last Thanksgiving, that town also has a shit load of MP's as well.(Of course you want to talk about bargains, $18 dollars for a half hour)

I also monger quite a bit in Mexicali, as well The dancers there at Giau Giau, and Miau Miau's are much hotter than I saw in Monterrey, but they have much more atttiude and will laugh you off if you offer any less than $200.

Carlos the Taxi driver told me that there are street walkers at and around the bus station. Are they scary or what?

Thanks great posts guys keep it up.

Amoroso

JB Nash

01-28-06, 05:27

Need a little help, hooking up. Last time I was there,7 years ago, I hooked up with a lady in the airport that was a translator, guide, and real GFE experience my company picked up the bill. Her name was Marie; however the number I have is not hers now. Does any one know if this woman is still working the airport, or know of one like her.

jb

Big Tex

01-28-06, 15:22

Carlos, I stand corrected. Signore is not a *****house. (I will certainly sample a *****house or two to educate myself.)

Minnesotah, about the food. I am a meat and potatos American guy who has been here for three months. The food, including all the Mexican places are fine. The tap water is even fine. They have an Amercian style reverse-osmosis treatment system here. The water here is just as safe as in any american city. Personally, I drink bottled, but that's just by habit. I drink bottled even in the states.

I do have one word of warning about the food. It is best to stay away from salad or any uncooked vegetables in any restaurant, even the high end ones. They may have come from anywhere in Mexico or Central America where irrigation isn't so clean.

But don't worry, eat, drink, and be merry during your trip...Welcome!

Big Tex

01-29-06, 04:53

OK, when it comes to hobbying, I tend to find something I like until I wear it out.

Today, Saturday, I went to Signore again at about 10:00 am. The receptionist told me to come back in a half an hour when the chicas will be available. The place advertises that it opens at 9:00 which means 11:00 in Mexican time. Got some gas, ran by the Office Depot and returned at around 11. Same deal 150 pesos for the girl. There were about 6 girls there, all looking eager to please. I chose quite attractive Morena named Vanesa. (for once, I remembered the name. Had to ask three times :)

Vanessa was in her 20's. Definitely less than 30. Because I am an obvious Gringo who speaks spanish, but very poorly, she was shy about the conversation, but of course, I wasn't there to talk. Asked if I wanted a shower which I refused because I was still fresh from my morning shower. She put on the porn. Next time, I will refuse the porn, because they have really crappy porn movies there. She left for about 5 minutes to do whatever she does.

I undressed and laid on the bed. This room was wierd because it had pictures of cartoons on the walls with snow white getting fucked by the 7 dwarves and some guy with gigantic balls being given a bucket to jack off in at a sperm bank. Very strange. I wonder who their decorator is?

Vanessa walks in wearing this tight white dress with white stockings. She took off her dress to reveal a very nice body with natural b tits. I am not a stocking guy. I like naked, but she looked hot. Funny thing about these Mexican hookers...Mexico is a very Catholic country and many of them wear crosses, which she did. Interesting.

100 pesos extra for bbbj. Very Very good technique. After a while, she asked me if I wanted more or if I was ready to fuck. I said "un poco mas" and she obliged me with about 5 more mintes of bbbj. I was very happy.

One thing about Vanessa, while she is nice, she is one of those girls that dosen't look at you while you are fucking. I prefer eye contact, but I can live without it.

We did it with her on top, me on top with legs over my shoulder and mish. When I was close, The little head told my mouth to ask "puedo terminar in su boca" (can I come in your mouth) She said sure for 50 pesos. I almost came right then over the idea that I could do something like that to a woman for less than 5 bucks. Did the deed, very nice. She went into the bathroom, which is in the room separated by a wall, spit and rinsed her mouth about 50 times. Come on...I can't be that disgusting!

Got dressed while she showered. Gave her an extra 20 pesos as a tip. I thought she was going to come this time. She was extremely surprised and grateful.

Next week, it's Infinito time. I will certainly give you an update. Sorry for the long reports, but I'm going through the kid at Christmas phase and will try to be more concise in the future. Please be patient. and above all else....enjoy the wonderful city of Monterrey!!!!!!

Porker

01-31-06, 06:17

BigTex, your reports are great, please keep them coming. And cumming! Glad to hear you're having a good time at Signore. I'd say there are 20 places just like it, but that's not quite true, as while some may have more girls, some may have better looking girls, some may have more upscale facilities, Signore has always just been a place that actually 'gets it' about providing decent customer service with no high pressure upselling crap that drives me crazy at other places that charge similar prices.

You'll get a bit of sensory overload at Infinito. The first time I went there four years ago (DAMN I'm getting old!), I couldn't beLIEVE IT when one of the hottest pro girls I had ever touched told me she'd do sucky/fucky in the privado booth for 200 pesos! That girl could have easily set a price of 100 bucks per half hour in a border town *****house (and YES, Carlos, if there is a building and it's full of prostitutes, it's called a *****house, no matter how low budget!), she was that far above the looks curve I was used to at the time.

On a down note, Infinito was completely DEAD last Monday at 6 PM. They had ONE girl on ONE stage and some linebacker-sized girls on the benches near the DJ booth. This was quite unusual, as while Monday is not a prime day of the week (Sunday is the WORST, btw, and several bars don't even open), they usually are operating at 80% of the chica roster.

Amoroso, you're right, as a casual visitor, doing whatever it takes to maximize your trip enjoyment is a good idea, but keep in mind your example about the Japanese driving up prices. Carlos is absolutely correct that paying 500 pesos for ordinary covered 'oral y penetracion' is a "dumb gringo" type price. Locals will laugh at the girl and then go from there, but when ONE gringo pays the price, guess what she's gonna ask for from the next guy? Not entirely your concern, but just something to keep in mind. The line in the sand is currently being held at 300 pesos, though most girls will give it up for no more than 200. I've never negotiated bbbj in a privado, but have been surprised by it about 2% of the time, and usually in places lower on the scale than places like Infinito.

Porker

01-31-06, 06:22

BTW, re: club girls giving BBBJ, the 2% stat is for onsite privados. My general perception is that most girls don't mind doing it (if it's worth their while), but that if one of the club employees sees them, they catch a lot of shit, and they're very paranoid about getting caught, which tends to fuck up your session. If you can get the girl offsite, the numbers improve dramatically.

Porker

01-31-06, 06:31

BigTex, re: Vanessa, is that the girl of the same name pictured on the www.signore.com.mx website?

Oh, and for the guy wanting to take the bus from the border to Monterrey, you do realize that you need to get a tourist visa? I believe the cost is 20 USD and you need to ask about it at the border when crossing into Mexico. You'll need either your passport or original birth certificate to get one.

Re: the bus to MTY, you can actually catch a bus direct from the USA side in Houston, Dallas, Austin, San Antonio or Laredo, TX. Autobuses Americano is the line I usually use, though Turimex and El Conejo are others that provide the same service and the prices are usually all the same too. So are the times, which is something to note when you're heading back into the USA on one of those buses: The wait at the U.S. border can be two hours or more as you will have to wait for every single person to get a special immigration permit at one of the offices inside. And when 10 buses show up at exactly the same time, this is a REAL pain in the ass!

MonterreyDude

01-31-06, 07:28

"Carlos, if there is a building and it's full of prostitutes, it's called a *****house, no matter how low budget"....

Nope... our definition of a *****house is a nice place where you can take your time in picking a girl, once donce chat with her, have a drink with them, go to a room with a nice confortable bed, nice clean bathroom and have delicious sex with them....
Just check Divain, Casablanca, Borrado... those are oldtime *****houses that go way back to the 70's (except Casablanca which is late 80's)... old school that is still trying to coexist with the strip clubs....

Prokofiev

01-31-06, 08:09

Hey Porker,

That Signore website is one of the better ones I've seen. Not only do they show photos of the staff (with masks) but the "Servicios" section include descriptions of blow job sin condon, cum en la boca and sexo anal. Looks like a complete service center. I will try it out next month.

Carlos,

Do you know the prices for Borrado, Divain or Casablanca? Are the girls there 1st class or similar to the MP's ? Which one would you recommend?

Thanks, -P

Big Tex

01-31-06, 16:07

Porker, yup, that's her on the website. In my opinion, not bad for a girl who will do all that nasty stuff for under $25. Still can't beleive it.

Carlos, I understand your definition of *****house. Let's just say that Signore isn't a *****house, it's a house full of *****s :)

Cheers all

Firebird

02-01-06, 23:03

Carlos, in preparation for my upcoming 4-day trip to MTY I have been reading and re-reading all the reports - damn if I do not have them practically memorized. In some recent reports I have noticed that several times you have recommended action at the Infinito.....but......I have also read many reports saying that even though the girls at Infinito are much prettier than those at Matehuela, they are more mechanical and businesslike, the waiters are pushy for you to buy drinks and eventually all concerned leave Infinito and head back Matehuela. I am sure that each one had a different opinion and/or what they are looking for - I just found this interesting.
Thanks for your feedback - firebird.

Porker

02-02-06, 01:08

Firebird, Matehuala and Infinito have the same owners and the business models are exactly the same. Re: the attitudes of the chicas and the waiters, it all depends on the individual. As the places are only about 4 blocks apart, you can easily try both for yourself and compare which one you like better. I personally am more comfortable at Matehuala as I know more people there. Infinito does indeed often have a higher hottie % than Matehuala does.

BTW, Givenchy and El Cielo are also members of the Mate/Infinito 'family'. More places to dig around in looking for a place to bury your bone!

MonterreyDude

02-02-06, 01:18

Porker feels at home at the Matehuala and so do I, but that is because we visit that place like twice a week and been doing that for 3 or 4 years.
But both Matehuala and Infinito will seem strange for you (as will Givenchy and El Cielo), but generaly speaking, the Infinito has much better selection to look at.
The Matehuala has for a couple of years gone down in quality
and it shows if you go from one place to another.
But yes, the girls at the Matehuala are friendlier cause they are veterans of the place and they know how to treat the customers.
Infinito has a high rotation of girls...

Firebird, Matehuala and Infinito have the same owners and the business models are exactly the same. Re: the attitudes of the chicas and the waiters, it all depends on the individual. As the places are only about 4 blocks apart, you can easily try both for yourself and compare which one you like better. I personally am more comfortable at Matehuala as I know more people there. Infinito does indeed often have a higher hottie % than Matehuala does.

BTW, Givenchy and El Cielo are also members of the Mate/Infinito 'family'. More places to dig around in looking for a place to bury your bone!

MonterreyDude

02-02-06, 01:19

I think they have a package that includes everthing that goes for 1800 pesos... I'll check and post the number later on the evening...

Hey Porker,

That Signore website is one of the better ones I've seen. Not only do they show photos of the staff (with masks) but the "Servicios" section include descriptions of blow job sin condon, cum en la boca and sexo anal. Looks like a complete service center. I will try it out next month.

Carlos,

Do you know the prices for Borrado, Divain or Casablanca? Are the girls there 1st class or similar to the MP's ? Which one would you recommend?

Thanks, -P

MonterreyDude

02-02-06, 03:29

You should really give yourself time to go to lunch on one of your weekdays to either the Prestige or the Obsession... they are a must.

Carlos, in preparation for my upcoming 4-day trip to MTY I have been reading and re-reading all the reports - damn if I do not have them practically memorized. In some recent reports I have noticed that several times you have recommended action at the Infinito.....but......I have also read many reports saying that even though the girls at Infinito are much prettier than those at Matehuela, they are more mechanical and businesslike, the waiters are pushy for you to buy drinks and eventually all concerned leave Infinito and head back Matehuela. I am sure that each one had a different opinion and/or what they are looking for - I just found this interesting.
Thanks for your feedback - firebird.

Firebird

02-02-06, 03:51

Thanks for the suggestion - definitely will plan for it

You should really give yourself time to go to lunch on one of your weekdays to either the Prestige or the Obsession... they are a must.

Sun Devil

02-05-06, 11:39

Hola Carlos:

Sorry I missed you at Obsession and Prestige while I was in town. I did not get your message about meeting you at Prestige until it was too late and I went to Obsession the next day but did not know how you looked like. I am a Filipino-Hawaiian in his 20s, so you were probably looking for an older looking white dude, and passed me up.

Again, thanks for the maps. By the way, I had the pleasure of meeting Katy and Esmeralda at Obsession that day. I am currently in San Jose, CR, and the girls at the upper scale strip clubs are charging $300-$400 for full service, making Poisson, Obsession and Prestige cheaper. Plus they do not offer the buffet services that the Monterrey clubs do.

MonterreyDude

02-05-06, 19:02

Sorry about that... I forgot to point out that the host or hostess of that day had notice that I was expecting someone. You only had to ask them for me.
Well, it will be the next time you are here.

Hola Carlos:

Sorry I missed you at Obsession and Prestige while I was in town. I did not get your message about meeting you at Prestige until it was too late and I went to Obsession the next day but did not know how you looked like. I am a Filipino-Hawaiian in his 20s, so you were probably looking for an older looking white dude, and passed me up.

Again, thanks for the maps. By the way, I had the pleasure of meeting Katy and Esmeralda at Obsession that day. I am currently in San Jose, CR, and the girls at the upper scale strip clubs are charging $300-$400 for full service, making Poisson, Obsession and Prestige cheaper. Plus they do not offer the buffet services that the Monterrey clubs do.

Lion Killer

02-09-06, 01:20

How was your trip to LA mi amigo? I had a blast in Monterrey for New Years, but did not know they closed the clubs at 10:00 PM on New Years Eve. I was ok as I had an 18 year old honey from Infinito's lined up to go home with me for a couple of hours after they closed.

We hit the sack by 11:00 and fucked till 1:00, I stopped and kissed her Happy New Year at midnight and kept on going. Its gonna be a bit befoe I can get back, as I am going to pick up my 4 year old daughter in 2 weeks to stay with me for 6 weeks.

So look for me around the end of April. I am going on a dive trip to Roatan, Honduras in late May/June, will let you know what I find there. Take care amigo.

LK

MonterreyDude

02-09-06, 08:47

Hello LK!
Trip was great, LA part just great... except we had rain on the 1st of the year and tons of water like the biblical flood on the 2nd, though it stopped like the weather man said, at 12:30 pm.
Sorry about NYear's, but I thought I told you they closed on the 31st... didn't I????
Well... see you next time.

How was your trip to LA mi amigo? I had a blast in Monterrey for New Years, but did not know they closed the clubs at 10:00 PM on New Years Eve. I was ok as I had an 18 year old honey from Infinito's lined up to go home with me for a couple of hours after they closed.

We hit the sack by 11:00 and fucked till 1:00, I stopped and kissed her Happy New Year at midnight and kept on going. Its gonna be a bit befoe I can get back, as I am going to pick up my 4 year old daughter in 2 weeks to stay with me for 6 weeks.

So look for me around the end of April. I am going on a dive trip to Roatan, Honduras in late May/June, will let you know what I find there. Take care amigo.

LK

Minnesotah

02-13-06, 08:32

Here's another question for you before my journey in MTY? Should I exchange my USD for Pesos or to pay everything in USD as recommended when partying in TJ?

MonterreyDude

02-13-06, 08:34

You can pay in Dlls... but why should you?
You can exchange Dlls for pesos at any exchange house in Monterrey proper.
There should be one near your hotel...

Here's another question for you before my journey in MTY? Should I exchange my USD for Pesos or to pay everything in USD as recommended when partying in TJ?

Lion Killer

02-13-06, 23:50

I agree with Carlos, its much better to change your dollar to the peso, you get a better rate and its easier to make change.

LK

MonterreyDude

02-14-06, 02:13

Minnesotah
Unspongebob from this forum is right now in Monterrey having fun.
Tell us where you are going to be, so we can give you pointers....

Here's another question for you before my journey in MTY? Should I exchange my USD for Pesos or to pay everything in USD as recommended when partying in TJ?

Firebird

02-14-06, 03:04

Carlos, you were correct - the "'new" Safi Hotel in San Pedro is totally "girl unfriendly" - tried last night to get a girl in and was stopped in the lobby by the "gestapo" security guards. During the day, made my way to Infinitivo but left it shortly thereafter - the "choices" in girls was poor. Perhaps it is my selection process to go for the "flacas" and these were slightly on the "gorda" side. Wanted to see the "world famous" Matehuala.
Well it was an experience. I guess you can call it a "human wave" as the girls go around the podium and everyone jumps to get a feel - I guess it is somewhat "comical" if you see it for the first time. The other parts that don't make sense is why do the girls disappear after they dance? Why don't they circulate on the floor as others dance? Well I got another side of the "action" Monterrey style. Too bad this hotel is so "tight" and I can't enjoy the talent in the comfort of my room. Guess have to wait for my April trip to Kuala Lumpur for some Asian "fun". Thanks to all for their input and Carlos to you for your maps

MonterreyDude

02-14-06, 03:15

Sorry about the Safi, but I knew that would happen.
Five Star hotels and Grand Tourism do not allow company in the rooms.
You should have called me... Unspongebob and me were having lunch at the Obsession today... you should have joined us... and he could have acompanied you to the Infinito.
The Infinito on a Monday starts to get good after 7 pm, no earlier, so does the Matehuala.

Carlos, you were correct - the "'new" Safi Hotel in San Pedro is totally "girl unfriendly" - tried last night to get a girl in and was stopped in the lobby by the "gestapo" security guards. During the day, made my way to Infinitivo but left it shortly thereafter - the "choices" in girls was poor. Perhaps it is my selection process to go for the "flacas" and these were slightly on the "gorda" side. Wanted to see the "world famous" Matehuala.
Well it was an experience. I guess you can call it a "human wave" as the girls go around the podium and everyone jumps to get a feel - I guess it is somewhat "comical" if you see it for the first time. The other parts that don't make sense is why do the girls disappear after they dance? Why don't they circulate on the floor as others dance? Well I got another side of the "action" Monterrey style. Too bad this hotel is so "tight" and I can't enjoy the talent in the comfort of my room. Guess have to wait for my April trip to Kuala Lumpur for some Asian "fun". Thanks to all for their input and Carlos to you for your maps

Minnesotah

02-14-06, 05:17

Minnesotah
Unspongebob from this forum is right now in Monterrey having fun.
Tell us where you are going to be, so we can give you pointers....

I know that I will be in MTY on the last weekend of February. I didn't booked my hotel room yet. Since I will be roadtripping and on a budget, I want something ok, clean, but not too expensive. I prefer having more fun and booze rather than paying a lot for a room you won't use much. Any suggestions?

MonterreyDude

02-14-06, 06:21

Plaza del Arco or the Favorita Inn is used by many.
Well placed, smack in the middle of the Monterrey comercial dowtown.
Check it at:

http://www.proximahoteles.com/

Lion Killer, Unspongebob, Wasted and many more have stayed there...

I know that I will be in MTY on the last weekend of February. I didn't booked my hotel room yet. Since I will be roadtripping and on a budget, I want something ok, clean, but not too expensive. I prefer having more fun and booze rather than paying a lot for a room you won't use much. Any suggestions?

Prokofiev

02-14-06, 22:11

I arrived here by bus late last night for a short 36 hours of fun, before taking off again tomorrow morning.

Went to Infinito first as I had missed it during my previous trip 6 weeks ago. I thought it was very similar to Matehuala. Very crowded around the runway, a little loud and very dark. Also a bit rowdy with a drunk group of young guys doing the wave and having a good time. Some pretty chicas, but not much different from the other clubs. Some cuties, some very regular looking girls.

I decided to cross the street to Tanga-Lay. Here I was able to get a seat by the runway ( never have I been able to do this at Matehuala after 3 trips) and see a little more since the lighting is stronger. Just a bit. There were about 20 girls of different sizes, shapes and colors. I like this club because the music is not as loud, there is more light, the privados have curtains and more light plus they offer a 3 x 100 peso promotion about every hour. I chose Brigette (Alicia),a morena in a school-girl outfit for a 3x100 privado. Long white stockings, a plaid skirt and white blouse. She seemed very shy on stage, never smiling and somewhat nervious. After dancing she would sit by herself in the back. Well, you can guess what happened. She was an absolute Tiger in the privado and fun as can be. Lots of touching, kissing. My finger in her ass? No problem. I took a 100p CBJ and agreed to another 3 x 100. Great head and ball licking for 3 songs. Great service with a smile. Total damage 200p for 6 songs + 100 CBJ + 30 comdom = 330p. Worth it.

This morning I stopped at Duality near the PDA to check-out their 80p special. Last time I looked in there, it was 2 enormous chicas. This time I saw 3 chicas, all do-able, but definitely C class gorditas. But still a deal for $7 US. I passed because I wanted to try Signore as reported by Porker and Big Tex? I paid 150p for 30 minutes with Vanessa, a 22 yo morena with long legs and quite slim. This place is great because it has a real bed - a HUGE bed with porno on the TV. Vanessa was a treat, actually cuter than Brigette last night. CBJ and 4 positions. Great girl. Great service. For only 150p at 10am, what a way to wake up on Valentines Day! I did see 3 other girls there and I didn`t like any of them. Not bad, just not good. So the quality is probably hit or miss - as expected at this price level. The girl working the counter who takes the money is a fox. I would have paid her 500.

I only have 18 hours left. Back to work . . .

-P

Prokofiev

02-14-06, 22:26

Just went back and saw that Big Tex reported on Vanessa 2 weeks ago, the same girl I had this morning at Signore. Great minds think alike. He had fun. I had fun. Vanessa is a cute chica from Monterrey with 2 kids, but a nice body. No tatoos. No piercings. Nice face. She`s still there and a true bargain for 150pesos!!!

Also, I am staying at PDA where the price is 585p. Rooms are very large, but not as nice as the Holiday Inn Express on Colon. Both are about 4 blocks from Matehuala, but PDA is to the east and in a more central location. But if you can get an internet special at Holiday Inn, it is the better choice. I paid $51 including tax = 550p just 6 weeks ago, although the posted rack rate is a lot higher. Cleaner, newer rooms. Nice bathrooms with bath tubs. A safe and refrigerator in each room. Plus a small pool and work-out room. And unlimited buffet breakfast. Easily worth 100-200p a night more to stay there, IMO. Still not certain if it is chica friendly. -Although PDA is not a bad place, just a step down for the same price.

MonterreyDude

02-16-06, 08:40

Prokofiev... am just reading this, just in from doing my club rounds at 1:40 am... just left Unspongebob (from this forum) at the PDA.
He's been here in Monterrey since Sunday and we've had lunch at the big clubs all week long.
You should have PM me!!!

PS: Plaza del Arco IS girl friendly.... everyone staying there has had girls in their rooms....

Just went back and saw that Big Tex reported on Vanessa 2 weeks ago, the same girl I had this morning at Signore. Great minds think alike. He had fun. I had fun. Vanessa is a cute chica from Monterrey with 2 kids, but a nice body. No tatoos. No piercings. Nice face. She`s still there and a true bargain for 150pesos!!!

Also, I am staying at PDA where the price is 585p. Rooms are very large, but not as nice as the Holiday Inn Express on Colon. Both are about 4 blocks from Matehuala, but PDA is to the east and in a more central location. But if you can get an internet special at Holiday Inn, it is the better choice. I paid $51 including tax = 550p just 6 weeks ago, although the posted rack rate is a lot higher. Cleaner, newer rooms. Nice bathrooms with bath tubs. A safe and refrigerator in each room. Plus a small pool and work-out room. And unlimited buffet breakfast. Easily worth 100-200p a night more to stay there, IMO. Still not certain if it is chica friendly. -Although PDA is not a bad place, just a step down for the same price.

Prokofiev

02-16-06, 20:13

Hi Carlos,

I was traveling from Mexico City by bus and came from San Luis Potosi (and Matehuala!) by way of a 7+ hour bus. I wasn't sure when I would arrive or leave from Monterrey so it didn't seem logical to try and meet up in a 24 or 36 hour window. Also I know that PDA is chica friendly. I was referring to the Holiday Inn.

Returned to Signore twice more before leaving yesterday at noon. Had Fanny (Erica) a 21 yo spinner. Very cute in her clothes, but had a stomach that had cratered due to several kids. She was VERY sensitive about this and it did look bad. Like the skin had never snapped back. Still a cute girl.
She told me that Valentines Day was her first day of work - ever. Plus she was married and had told her husband she was starting work at a restaurant! Could be BS, but she seemed very sincere and nervious. Gave good service if a bit reserved. Went for the BBBJ option for a total of 250 p.

I also returned to Signore at 10am before hitting the road and had Vanessa again. Without make-up and with wet hair, she didn't look as good as I had remembered. But still a great deal for 150p.

I also went into Cinema Versailles, a porn theater on Villegran? Don't have many of these still going in the US. Well, it seemed to be a gay-action pick-up spot. I was propositioned by 2 very sad-looking trannies offering BJs. Thought I'd pass . . . Buyer beware.

MonterreyDude

02-17-06, 08:52

OHMYGOD!!!!!
The Versalles cienma at Villagran is a gay joint!!!!
LOL!!!
Can you walk straight???

Hi Carlos,

I was traveling from Mexico City by bus and came from San Luis Potosi (and Matehuala!) by way of a 7+ hour bus. I wasn't sure when I would arrive or leave from Monterrey so it didn't seem logical to try and meet up in a 24 or 36 hour window. Also I know that PDA is chica friendly. I was referring to the Holiday Inn.

Returned to Signore twice more before leaving yesterday at noon. Had Fanny (Erica) a 21 yo spinner. Very cute in her clothes, but had a stomach that had cratered due to several kids. She was VERY sensitive about this and it did look bad. Like the skin had never snapped back. Still a cute girl.
She told me that Valentines Day was her first day of work - ever. Plus she was married and had told her husband she was starting work at a restaurant! Could be BS, but she seemed very sincere and nervious. Gave good service if a bit reserved. Went for the BBBJ option for a total of 250 p.

I also returned to Signore at 10am before hitting the road and had Vanessa again. Without make-up and with wet hair, she didn't look as good as I had remembered. But still a great deal for 150p.

I also went into Cinema Versailles, a porn theater on Villegran? Don't have many of these still going in the US. Well, it seemed to be a gay-action pick-up spot. I was propositioned by 2 very sad-looking trannies offering BJs. Thought I'd pass . . . Buyer beware.

Commonglass

02-17-06, 12:08

Had a brief trip to MTY recently. Very good time there. Thanks to Prokofiev for his great reports, which I followed almost to the letter.

THE GOOD

MTY is an outstanding value for the hobbyist. Easily a better scene than TJ.

The Matahuela girls are at least as hot as the Adelitas ladies but much, much friendlier. Although a negative for some, I also liked the Matahuela layout downstairs. The lights are very low, but there's a blacklight, so you get a sense of the action around you by the neon clothes/makeup. Annonymous but fun too. I was hard pumping a stunning (tight) 21 year old in a cheerleader outfit, on her back, sprawled over a sofa chair, when an equally tight chica brought another client right next to us and assumed the same position. I couldn't see the client because of the cubby dividers, but I casually reached over and grabbed the other chica's huge left tit as I worked on number one. Loved it.

I took another Matehuela girl the next night directly from the stage to the big room downstairs and had her gyrate and ride me with great energy ("mas rapido!"). I'm really amazed that she kept up such a pace for so long. After I cum, it turns out that her pussy had grabbed the condom right off my cock and she has to dig it out. The condom comes spilling out of her pussy with my cum. No problem, she tells me. She's back on stage without even a wipe in less than a minute, fishing for the next guy.

I had a great experience at 10am at La Ciel. All I saw were fatties when my eyes finally adjusted to the VERY dim lighting there. I asked the waiter for someone "delgaga" (slender) and he got excited and ran away. 10 long minutes go by and he brings me Verla (?), a somewhat bony 22 year old fresh from a shower. I'm somewhat turned off by her skinniness, but we get a drink, she puts her tongue in my ear, and we go upstairs for a privado. I ask for a BJ and she gives me a few BBBJ sucks and licks to get me up. I'm loving it, so when she gets ready to put on the condom, I say "No, gracias," and without another word, she goes to town on me with her well-trained mouth and pierced tongue. Probably the best BBBJ ever, bar none. With plenty of advanced warning from me, she lets me cum in her mouth and then gears down her sucking just right to drain me without hurting me. She spits out the cum. For curiousity's sake, I pay the amount we'd originally agreed to (sin BBBJTC) and she's very happy with just the standard 10% tip. I then give her an extra $50Ps because I had a very, very good time.

THE BAD

I wasted too much of my limited time trying to find a massage parlor with decent looking girls. As Prokofiev noted, with lots of time one could probably find great opportunities. However, if your time is short, I'd recommend sticking to the clubs. Granted, my standards are pretty high.

MTY is not geared around the chica industry the way that TJ is. When you catch a cab, be prepared to give them an address for Matehuela, La Ciel, etc., because the cab driver may not know what/where they are otherwise.

THE UGLY

I got ripped off at the Tango. After running short on cash, I hit the local ATM for $500Ps. Believe it or not, the damn thing gave me a SINGLE $500P bill--which is almost totally worthless at that time of night. I go into Tango and ask the waiter to cash the bill (so I can grab the cute chica then on stage). He agrees and brings me back a pile of bills which (I find out later) add up to only $20Ps. I later leave the club and come immediately back, but no one remembers anything. I'm an idiot, I know, but be careful in these dark clubs!

I'm not sure what the STD situation is in MTY, but there's no evidence of TJ-style testing/regulation. Also, with the low prices for services, even the very fine girls are hooking up with lots and lots of men everyday. As my experience indicates, the girls are somewhat lax on protection. With better confidence regarding the STD situation, I would never go back to TJ again and do MTY exclusively.

MonterreyDude

02-17-06, 18:23

Tyson am glad you liked Monterrey...
A couple of pointers: In any club be it first or workers class club there is the high possibility of a rippoff. It might be a bill or a tab.
I don't drink, so the waiters and guys in charge know Iam always on guard. I say that cause in two straight days Unspongebob (from this forum) and me had lunch at the Obsession and Prestige and at both places, when checking the tab I noticed one extra drink and the next day at a diffrent club, one extra cover charge (buffet price).
The moment I complained they fixed it up, but up to now I still don't know if it they were trying to get a little extra or if it was a mistake.

Tyson, I have a question: what is La Ciel??? Is it El Cielo?

And yes, you can find MPs with great looking girls but the price jumps to 1000 to up to 2000 pesos.
You have Horoscope, Versache and Missex. Thing is those MPs are not in the main central area of Monterrey.
Check Missex at

http://www.misses.com.mx/

So you can get an idea.
And yes, 95% of the girls are registered by the Municipio for regular check-ups.

Had a brief trip to MTY recently. Very good time there. Thanks to Prokofiev for his great reports, which I followed almost to the letter.

THE GOOD

MTY is an outstanding value for the hobbyist. Easily a better scene than TJ.

The Matahuela girls are at least as hot as the Adelitas ladies but much, much friendlier. Although a negative for some, I also liked the Matahuela layout downstairs. The lights are very low, but there's a blacklight, so you get a sense of the action around you by the neon clothes/makeup. Annonymous but fun too. I was hard pumping a stunning (tight) 21 year old in a cheerleader outfit, on her back, sprawled over a sofa chair, when an equally tight chica brought another client right next to us and assumed the same position. I couldn't see the client because of the cubby dividers, but I casually reached over and grabbed the other chica's huge left tit as I worked on number one. Loved it.

I took another Matehuela girl the next night directly from the stage to the big room downstairs and had her gyrate and ride me with great energy ("mas rapido!"). I'm really amazed that she kept up such a pace for so long. After I cum, it turns out that her pussy had grabbed the condom right off my cock and she has to dig it out. The condom comes spilling out of her pussy with my cum. No problem, she tells me. She's back on stage without even a wipe in less than a minute, fishing for the next guy.

I had a great experience at 10am at La Ciel. All I saw were fatties when my eyes finally adjusted to the VERY dim lighting there. I asked the waiter for someone "delgaga" (slender) and he got excited and ran away. 10 long minutes go by and he brings me Verla (?), a somewhat bony 22 year old fresh from a shower. I'm somewhat turned off by her skinniness, but we get a drink, she puts her tongue in my ear, and we go upstairs for a privado. I ask for a BJ and she gives me a few BBBJ sucks and licks to get me up. I'm loving it, so when she gets ready to put on the condom, I say "No, gracias," and without another word, she goes to town on me with her well-trained mouth and pierced tongue. Probably the best BBBJ ever, bar none. With plenty of advanced warning from me, she lets me cum in her mouth and then gears down her sucking just right to drain me without hurting me. She spits out the cum. For curiousity's sake, I pay the amount we'd originally agreed to (sin BBBJTC) and she's very happy with just the standard 10% tip. I then give her an extra $50Ps because I had a very, very good time.

THE BAD

I wasted too much of my limited time trying to find a massage parlor with decent looking girls. As Prokofiev noted, with lots of time one could probably find great opportunities. However, if your time is short, I'd recommend sticking to the clubs. Granted, my standards are pretty high.

MTY is not geared around the chica industry the way that TJ is. When you catch a cab, be prepared to give them an address for Matehuela, La Ciel, etc., because the cab driver may not know what/where they are otherwise.

THE UGLY

I got ripped off at the Tango. After running short on cash, I hit the local ATM for $500Ps. Believe it or not, the damn thing gave me a SINGLE $500P bill--which is almost totally worthless at that time of night. I go into Tango and ask the waiter to cash the bill (so I can grab the cute chica then on stage). He agrees and brings me back a pile of bills which (I find out later) add up to only $20Ps. I later leave the club and come immediately back, but no one remembers anything. I'm an idiot, I know, but be careful in these dark clubs!

I'm not sure what the STD situation is in MTY, but there's no evidence of TJ-style testing/regulation. Also, with the low prices for services, even the very fine girls are hooking up with lots and lots of men everyday. As my experience indicates, the girls are somewhat lax on protection. With better confidence regarding the STD situation, I would never go back to TJ again and do MTY exclusively.

Minnesotah

02-18-06, 06:23

Plaza del Arco or the Favorita Inn is used by many.
Well placed, smack in the middle of the Monterrey comercial dowtown.
Check it at:

http://www.proximahoteles.com/

Lion Killer, Unspongebob, Wasted and many more have stayed there...

So, PDA and Favorita are girl friendly, but is it at a walkable distance from the "fishing ponds" or I gonna need to hire a cab?

MonterreyDude

02-18-06, 08:13

Yes it is walking distance from many clubs...
Send me a PM with your mail and I'll send you some of the maps I have shared with the guys from this forum...

So, PDA and Favorita are girl friendly, but is it at a walkable distance from the "fishing ponds" or I gonna need to hire a cab?

Porker

02-19-06, 12:35

Plaza Del Arco is now charging 585 pesos for a room? IMO, time to re-check the rates at the Yamallel. Might be able to save 20 bucks...

Member #3453

02-19-06, 15:58

i recently returned from another trip to monterrey. some of you that have commented about your disgust for the carpeting in hotel plaza del arco may take some particular comfort in knowing that they are seriously involved in replacing carpet in various rooms throughout hotel plaza del arco. but, you may also be somewhat disappointed in also knowing that the carpet they have selected, while new, is exactly the same color and type. but, at least they are engaged in making some improvements in the carpet, which has always been one of the main detractors at pda. by the way, porker is right about the pricing at pda. imho, it is getting a little out of line.

something that i was delighted to learn, is that the sanbornes restaurant at plaza real monterrey, the small shopping center at gonzalitos and sandero. that’s the shopping plaza with the heb grocery store, applebees restaurant, and officemax. anyway, sanbornes restaurant has free high speed wireless internet access spilling over into the restaurant from the officemax next door. i traveled each morning from pda to plaza real monterrey to use my laptop to check email and the internet. it cost about 21-23 pesos one way from pda, and it usually took about 5-6 minutes to get there in the mornings. i really enjoyed going to sandbornes for breakfast, and also having the added benefit of surfing the net at high speed for free. another delightful thing about sanbornes is the wonderful fresh assorted high quality pastries they place in the baskets on the table throughout the restaurant…those are delicious!

prestige versus obsession?

carlos and i literally visited either obsession or prestige each and every day during the week over the course of my visit to monterrey. our visits to obsession were relatively consistent with past visits. however, our experience at prestige was, imho, noticeably superior to recent past visits.

carlos and i had commented to one another over the last several months that we were becoming less interested in visiting prestige because we were tiring of the girls. the selection of girls and their cliquish antics were turning us off. we had concluded that we preferred to visit obsession for girl watching, and prestige for the quality of the buffet.

our preference for the food at prestige has never changed. the food at prestige has for at least a year or more been just a notch or two above obsession, and this most recent trip was no exception. however, the main thing we noticed this trip at prestige was the lineup of girls. they have had an influx of really pretty 19-21 year old girls, and a number of them are quite stunning.

while there are still some of the old line-up left, they may have decided that they are needing to change their approach to survive. but, only time will tell whether they will slip into their old ways again of being relatively lazy and unimaginative in their approach to the clientele. in the past, if you were not one of their sugar daddies, you were completely ignored. i would just see so many of them just sitting around the club, not walking around much, not really making much of an effort to charm customers. they were almost all vestal virgins, girls that would not do anything outside the club. but, on top of that, their energy level and commitment to paying attention to customers seemed to be really quite lacking, many of them having a seemingly aloof and “stuck-up” demeanor. i did have one girl that would regularly sit on my lap, but as is usually the case, she was not my first, second, or even third choice. i had also noticed that even she had recently lacked any attempt at charm. she would merely sit on my lap, drink her drink, and was relatively worthless. hence, this is why i say that the girls at prestige were becoming stale.

anyway, on this trip, i was astounded when i was hit on repeatedly by at least five girls, four of them new girls, most of which had been working at prestige less than a week. in one particular case, an unbelievably pretty 19 year old girl told me she had been only working there for three days.

with this influx of “new girl” blood, there is a decidedly different atmosphere at prestige right now, today, than before, imho. i say “right now, today,” because with such a lineup of new girls, girls that may not really understand what they are getting into, girls that have not had the experience yet to know the demands of being a bar girl, may not last. so, while some of the new girls will last, some will probably not last the week. so, i would recommend that you check it out now before some of the drop off the radar.

the old crew, some of which are still left over, are seemingly much more low key right now in their antics, and in their cliquish control of the floor. i sensed a definite more somber attitude from the old crew, which seemingly knows that the writing may be on the wall for them. they have significant competition from the influx of new girls, and the end result is that we, the patrons, get an improved level of attention. certainly, the attention level was at least 5 times greater for me than in the recent past. i was astonished when every time i would move, a new beautiful young girl was hitting on me for drinks.

now, if you don’t want to buy drinks, then this could be a slight hassle for you. but, you have to learn to say no. my point is, it was certainly enjoyable to have the attention again, being told how guapo i am, and how they can not live without me, hahahaha!!!!! and, if you are one to enjoy looking, and prefer to be left alone, then there is a really impressive selection of girls at prestige right now in the afternoons.

i enjoyed seeing the new, prettier, younger, and less experienced girls. the less experienced girls have this intrinsic anticipation, an attitude of openness and charm, probably due to their level of inexperience, that makes them much more charming than the old crew, and they also convey an attitude that is far less jaded than the old crew.

i think the decidedly interesting point of this whole analysis is that there is now seemingly a potential to actually see some of these girls outside the club. over the course of several visits this week to prestige, i determined that 50% of the girls i sat with were open to the idea of seeing me outside the club, which is not a typical percentage of success. because of the influx of new talent, some of the girls have apparently decided that if they like you, they will see you outside the club in order to survive. some of the old crew had agreed to see clients outside the club on a routine basis, but many of them would never have considered doing it before. however, now, with the competition on the floor, i believe that a larger percentage of the girls, even some of the newer ones, may have concluded that they are going to have to offer added benefits to guys buying them drinks in order to compensate for the increased competition that’s been placed on the floor.

management is definitely taking a more aggressive approach to marketing this club to the public. this became quite evident when carlos talked with the management about this very issue, and sensed a real commitment on the part of management to aggressively compete with the other clubs in town. the effort they’re making shows in the improved attention level being demonstrated by the girls, and the buffet is as good as it has ever been.

another funny thing that happened to me…carlos and i were visiting one of our favorite clubs, the harem, on madero. anyway, i had brought my pocket rocket out…actually, the girls who know me actually ask me for it now…anyway, i had brought it out to terrorize the girls, and after a slight bit of time, a guy next to me leaned over and asks me if i am a contributor to the isg board. i replied that i was, and he immediately says, “are you the spongebob?” so, my screen name is now apparently synonymous with the pocket rocket, hahahahaha!!! the other guy from the board (sorry, i don’t recall your screen name at this juncture) and i enjoyed talking together, and we played with the girls for a while. fortunately, the girls never really understood the significance of our meeting, or that there was a board like this where these antics are routinely documented, and in some instances, photos of our girls posted, nude photos!!!

it is very important that we never disclose to the girls that we are posting about them or with regard to our antics. i am certainly flattered that anyone would acknowledge they are familiar with my screen name, and that they have enjoyed reading my posts in the past. really, it is quite satisfying to hear that, and i am humbled by the gracious compliments given to me by my new friend from the board that was sitting next to me at harem.

my new friend at harem was a native of monterrey, but he also spoke good english, and we conversed in english so as not to give anything away to the girls around us, most of which do not speak english. but occasionally, you will find a girl that speaks a little english in monterrey. there aren’t many that know a word of english, but there are some.

the point is, while i am humbly appreciative of any recognition concerning my contributions to what could only be considered a virtually worthless endeavor by any civilized social standard, that being notoriety gained as a result of one’s contributions to a sex tourist board, it is important that we keep the details of our antics, and the reports we make to this and other boards totally secret from the girls. this is especially important when it comes to photos, but it is just as important that we not let the girls become aware that we are reporting on them, or that we are in any way “organized” in the pursuit of our hobby.

anyway, i enjoyed my trip this month to monterrey, and if i don’t go to sea in march, i will probably return again to monterrey around the 20th of march for more fun.

MonterreyDude

02-19-06, 18:34

YEs... you might, but Yamallel is NOT girl friendly.

Plaza Del Arco is now charging 585 pesos for a room? IMO, time to re-check the rates at the Yamallel. Might be able to save 20 bucks...

Prokofiev

02-19-06, 21:23

yes, i can confirm they are changing the hard, grey carpet at pda since i ran into the workers both days i was there. but they hadn't made it to my room yet.

also the hotel has free internet access in the lobby, but it is low speed and usually busy.

still, all in all a reasonable place to stay. and i took the previous advice on the board and asked for an interior room. was surprisingly quiet.

as should be absolutely clear by now, tastes in women vary and one man's princess is anothers dog. however, i was very happy to find the signore mp on this last trip. they have very large rooms with real queen or king-sized beds. not just a padded massage table built into the wall. the chicas have a noticeably positive attitude about satisfying the customer - due to rules and training set by the establishment. no upselling of any kind, but additional services available by request. no, these are not a team chicas much less fashion models. but for 150 pesos i found my 3 trips there an absolute bargain. some guys are addicted to the strip club vibe. the noise. the excitement. black lights and darkness. the giant shoes and layers of make-up. cool. something different for everyone. but if you like to talk to the girls, see them, touch them and have a bed and a towel/soap for the shower, then signore cannot be beat for the price. worked for me. thanks, porker and tex for the tip. would never have wandered in there without reading your posts.

cheers, -p

MonterreyDude

02-20-06, 08:15

for a good internet acces, just walk right across the street from the pda.
the computer store on the corner sells internet time like for 3 or 4 dlls per hour.
just go straight through the door to the back of the store... there they have the coputers for rent...

yes, i can confirm they are changing the hard, grey carpet at pda since i ran into the workers both days i was there. but they hadn't made it to my room yet.

also the hotel has free internet access in the lobby, but it is low speed and usually busy.

still, all in all a reasonable place to stay. and i took the previous advice on the board and asked for an interior room. was surprisingly quiet.

as should be absolutely clear by now, tastes in women vary and one man's princess is anothers dog. however, i was very happy to find the signore mp on this last trip. they have very large rooms with real queen or king-sized beds. not just a padded massage table built into the wall. the chicas have a noticeably positive attitude about satisfying the customer - due to rules and training set by the establishment. no upselling of any kind, but additional services available by request. no, these are not a team chicas much less fashion models. but for 150 pesos i found my 3 trips there an absolute bargain. some guys are addicted to the strip club vibe. the noise. the excitement. black lights and darkness. the giant shoes and layers of make-up. cool. something different for everyone. but if you like to talk to the girls, see them, touch them and have a bed and a towel/soap for the shower, then signore cannot be beat for the price. worked for me. thanks, porker and tex for the tip. would never have wandered in there without reading your posts.

cheers, -p

Big Tex

02-20-06, 14:11

Hi all, as always, thanks for all the info.

I agree with the comment on Sanborns. It's a great place to eat with free internet access. Sanborns is the old Mexican departments store that specializes in imports and has a decent restaurant upstairs. There are a few here in Monterrey. It took me a while to figure out how to get fast service there. The service is incredibly slow by American standards, but just fine down here, considering life is a little slower. The trick is that when you need something, more coffe, your check or whatever, you don't have to find your waitress, just grab anyone, even a manager, and they will help you. You can get a decent arenchera for about us$11. Downstairs, the prices are ludicrous on their merchendise, but you can pick up a quick gift for the wife or girlfriend and they will even wrap it for you. They also have a good selction of English language magazines.

For a good, very reasonably priced steak. (The beef here is out of this world), Try the Rey de Cabrito on the access road to Constitution. Very good, reasonably priced, and very "Norteno." I recommend the arrenchera, the ribeye, and if you haven't tried it yet, try the cabrito. Cabrito is suckling goat and is the regional specialty. For my tastes, its just ok, but its worth a try, just to say you tried it.

Many of you guys do business in Monterrey and the power breakfast is a very big deal here. The best place for that is the San Carlos, there is one in Monterrey and one in San Pedro. Great (very mexican) buffet and anything else you want. The restaurant in the Safi hotel in San Pedro is also great. Your clients will be impressed.

Prokofiev, I think you and I understand what Signore is and I'm glad you enjoyed it. Again, not for everyone, but a great place for quick, good sex with a "good enough" chica. Nothing more.

Unspongebob. Your posts are great. I completely agree with you in that this board has to be kept our little secret. I have read reports from other parts of the world where the guy has mentioned posting stuff like this on the internet has made the girls very nervous. Making the chicas nervous won't help any of us, so let's keep our mouths shut.

If you do business here regularly and can swing it, it might be a good idea to join one of the athletic clubs in San Pedro. These are like country clubs that have gyms, tennis courts, and pools. Great for meetings and for meeting locals. One word of warning. I am occasionally hit on my married Regias in these places (not bragging, I'm nothing to look at, but a gringo in these parts is a novelty) My advice is to stay the fuck away from married women here. Monterrey is an extremely safe city, but the one thing that will certainly get you killed is fucking somebodys wife. Just pay for it in the clubs. Simple, safe, no strings, and much better.

Cheers

Member #3453

02-20-06, 16:15

regarding the computer store across the street from pda, if you have a laptop, they will unplug a high speed cable from an exisiting desktop computer for you, and you can plug in easily for high speed access using your own machine.

the only negative aspect of using the computor shop across the street from pda is that their hours are somewhat limited, especially with respect to the odd hours i keep when prowling around monterrey. i believe they open at 10am and are closed by 6pm in the evening. so, for me, their hours of operation are sometimes not very convenient. it would be better if they had evening hours, and opened no later than 8am.

i just discovered this week that sanbornes has the high speed internet access as a result of their close proximity to officemax in plaza real monterrey, and while it is much further to travel, and requires much more effort to get there than to simply walk across the street from pda, their pastries are delicious in the mornings.

i happen to think of another really amusing thing that happened to me when i was at prestige on one of the days we visited. this just goes to illustrate the changes that i see happening there now, albeit possibly for a very short period of time.

the prior day to this visit to prestige, i had sat with, and purchased a drink for, one of the new 19 year old girls. i had asked carlos' girl to fetch the girl that i had intended to buy a drink for, and she had brought me the wrong one by mistake.

you see, there were so many of the girls soliciting me that day, girls that had stopped to sit on my lap, or stopped me in the isles to make my acquaintance, that carlos' girl became confused, bringing the wrong girl over to our table. but, the girl she did bring over was still one of the pretty new young ones, one of the same solicitous girls that was pining for my company.

anyway, the girl i had asked for, and previously promised to buy drinks for, saw this happen, but she sat sweetly across the room without a typical bar girl fuming reaction. she is 21 years old, and quite pretty, but in a refined sort of way. she struck me as being more classy than some of the other girls in the place. some girls just have an aire of classiness compared to an aire of pure sexuality, which she certainly had as well, but with a greater degree of dignity (if that is possible for a stripper). i thought her sweet disposition, after another girl had just aced her out of drinks, especially after i had promised to buy her drinks, was certainly quite uncharacteristic of a typical bar girl. her sweet disposition impressed me greatly. it demonstrated her maturity, and her attitude demonstrated a potentially superior personality compared to the average bar girl.

the girl that i ultimately sat with that day was fine. i mean, what can not be fine about a busty, 19 year old nubile hotty with a really cute face and very gorgeous hair, etc...? so, i was still content, but i felt bad that i had promised drinks to the other girl, and that carlos' girl had accidentally brought me the wrong one.

anyway, on one of the subsequent days, i decided that i would definitely make good on my promises to the 21 year old girl that had been aced out of her drinks, but making sure that i bought her drinks. so, when i arrived at prestige, i was sure to call my preferred 21 year old girl over to my table, and to assure her that i would be sitting with her that day. i explained what had happened the previous day, and she understood, and apparently carlos' girl had explained the error that had been made. anyway, she was still just as sweet as ever.

i was being solicited that day in just the same manner as the previous day by all the other girls, with a significant aggressiveness, even by a girl that had sat with me each month over the course of several months, my former regular girl, a girl that was actually a third or fourth choice girl for me. i think my third/fourth choice girl was seeing the writing on wall and hoping to salvage me from the newbies, and even from some of the old-crew girls that had apparently turned over a new leaf and decided not to ignore me.

so, the solicitations were still coming hot and heavy from the all the new girls, and even from some of the old ones. even from some of the hot old-crew girls that had always all but ignored me on visits i had made to prestige in prior months.

believe me, when this change in attitude and attention from the girls occurs, it is such a shock, that all i could do was throw my hands up and exclaim, "what the hell is going on in this place now????!!!!!!!!!!" had i all of a sudden turned mas guapo, looking twenty years younger, with 500 peso bills sticking out of my pockets or something???? :-)))))) all i could think of is "what is going on...???"

anyway, here is the funny part...

i was walking from the buffet to my chair and noticed the 21 year old girl of my choice, the one that had been aced out of her fecha money, standing across the room. i motioned for her to pounce on me now before the other girls to get to me, and before i could arrive at my chair. that way she would be able to immediately engage me at my seat, and she would get her fecha opportunity before all the other girls could pounce on me.

anyway, after i had signaled my preferred girl, and she started toward my seat to meet me, i ran into the 19 year old girl from the day before, the one that had beat my preferred girl out of her fecha money. we smiled at each other, i reached out and gave her a little love pat on the nose with my index finger, and then i quickly brushed past her toward my seat where i immediately greeted the other girl, the 21 year old girl of my choice. we sat down immediately and began conversing.

anyway, carlos tapped me on the shoulder and pointed out that the girl from the previous day appeared to be fuming mad, looking over at me sitting with the girl of my choice, even after i had just tapped her on the nose in a loving, playful manner. i watched the girl as she gazed at me occassionally, with a definite look of anger on her face. she was glancing daggers in my direction for sure, either directly at me, and/or probably most certainly at my preferred girl. it was very amusing...

but, i think i made the right choice because the 21 year old girl and i hit it off quite well. most of the girls are vestal virgins, both in prestige and obsession, and most of them will not meet you outside the clubs. however, my 21 year old girl agreed to meet me outside the club when she is off. so, when i return to monterrey, i will see if she makes good on that promise.

actually, over the course of several prior months, i had been making homemade chocolate chip cookies in my home in the us, cookies which, and pardon me for saying so myself, are quite good.

i give them away to friends in monterrey, and certain bar girls who are aware of my cookies, and have asked me for them specifically each time i come back to town. i had actually made 35 cookies to bring to monterrey. by the time friday had rolled around, i was running low on them, and had saved the last one for porker when he arrived at prestige for the our buffet meeting on friday.

anyway, because i was running out of cookies, the 21 year old girl of my choice offered to let me use the kitchen in her apartment to make some more cookies before i left town. if that isn't an opportunity for amor, i don't know what is...i didn't take her up on the offer this time, but she was quite serious about it. i hope she is still working, and that her attitude is not totally jaded by the time i return to monterrey again next month.

MonterreyDude

02-20-06, 19:57

I might like to change your mind on cabrito and good steaks: go to El Gran Pastor on Gonzalitos Ave, across Caliente and the Hampton Inn.
And for a power breakfast... no not the San Carlos. That would be the Presidente Intercontinental.
Sanborns... Although I introduced Unspongebob to the Sanborns franchise, Sanborns is only good and has only been good for coffee. My wife adores Sanborns, but I would quickly exchange it for any fastfood joint at a mall exactly for all the reasons you mention Big Tex... too slow.

Hi all, as always, thanks for all the info.

I agree with the comment on Sanborns. It's a great place to eat with free internet access. Sanborns is the old Mexican departments store that specializes in imports and has a decent restaurant upstairs. There are a few here in Monterrey. It took me a while to figure out how to get fast service there. The service is incredibly slow by American standards, but just fine down here, considering life is a little slower. The trick is that when you need something, more coffe, your check or whatever, you don't have to find your waitress, just grab anyone, even a manager, and they will help you. You can get a decent arenchera for about us$11. Downstairs, the prices are ludicrous on their merchendise, but you can pick up a quick gift for the wife or girlfriend and they will even wrap it for you. They also have a good selction of English language magazines.

For a good, very reasonably priced steak. (The beef here is out of this world), Try the Rey de Cabrito on the access road to Constitution. Very good, reasonably priced, and very "Norteno." I recommend the arrenchera, the ribeye, and if you haven't tried it yet, try the cabrito. Cabrito is suckling goat and is the regional specialty. For my tastes, its just ok, but its worth a try, just to say you tried it.

Many of you guys do business in Monterrey and the power breakfast is a very big deal here. The best place for that is the San Carlos, there is one in Monterrey and one in San Pedro. Great (very mexican) buffet and anything else you want. The restaurant in the Safi hotel in San Pedro is also great. Your clients will be impressed.

Prokofiev, I think you and I understand what Signore is and I'm glad you enjoyed it. Again, not for everyone, but a great place for quick, good sex with a "good enough" chica. Nothing more.

Unspongebob. Your posts are great. I completely agree with you in that this board has to be kept our little secret. I have read reports from other parts of the world where the guy has mentioned posting stuff like this on the internet has made the girls very nervous. Making the chicas nervous won't help any of us, so let's keep our mouths shut.

If you do business here regularly and can swing it, it might be a good idea to join one of the athletic clubs in San Pedro. These are like country clubs that have gyms, tennis courts, and pools. Great for meetings and for meeting locals. One word of warning. I am occasionally hit on my married Regias in these places (not bragging, I'm nothing to look at, but a gringo in these parts is a novelty) My advice is to stay the fuck away from married women here. Monterrey is an extremely safe city, but the one thing that will certainly get you killed is fucking somebodys wife. Just pay for it in the clubs. Simple, safe, no strings, and much better.

Cheers

Member #3453

02-20-06, 21:29

Actually, Carlos, Cindy #1 from TVO introduced me to Sandbornes for breakfast over three years ago, but unitl you were gracious enough to take me there for Manzanilla Te (is that spelling right?), I had forgotten about them.

But, the Sandbornes she took me to was not as nice as the one you took me to, and I did not really realize they were as consistent a place for breakfast as they are. You are correct in pointing out that they can be relatively slow sometimes, but that beats getting deathly ill from eating breakfast in the PDA restaurant, which I suspect was the source of my initial need to consume the hot tea in the first place, LOL. Besides, as Tex indicated, they are quick to respond if you merely raise your hand and ask.

And, you are also right about another thing too. I remember sitting at Sanbornes, and after about the fourth day of going there, I began to realize, and pointedly commented to myself, "this coffee is really quite good." I am not normally that much of a coffee drinker, but I was impressed with the taste of their coffee in the morning. I could probably become somewhat addicted, having to go their each and every morning to get my fix.

By the way, this last trip, when I was in the flea markets near PDA, I noticed that there is a sign above a walkway on one of the streets between the first and second block of the flea market, the sign said "Gymnasio." Do you know it, the sign I refer to? I think the Gymnasio sign is in the block East of that major street to the East of Pino Suarez...I don't remember the name of that first major street East of Pino Suarez right now. But, the sign is on a small side street that runs parallel with the major street that is immediately East of Pino Suarez...make sense? It is a very small side street that divides the Pulgas but it's not hard to cross.

If you get a chance this week, and you need to visit the flea markets for an extra pocket rocket or two, extra XXX rated videos, etc... ;-) I would really like to know if that is in fact a Gym or just a sign left over from a by-gone day. If it is a full service Gym, it would be very convenient to PDA, and I may want to negotiate a "pay as you go" plan with them. It seems like there is some activity there, so perhaps it is a small local gym.

Remember when we checked before, Vic Tanny, etc...and some of the other Gyms in town. They are outrageously expensive, especially if you are only visiting for a week at a time per month. They want to charge you a monthly rate, just as though you are living in Monterrey rather than giving you the option to pay by the day.

Prokofiev

02-20-06, 22:16

" . . . but that beats getting deathly ill from eating breakfast in the PDA restaurant, which I suspect was the source of my initial need to consume the hot tea in the first place, LOL"

Well, I wasn't going to mention this, but I had the basic cont. breakfast at PDA both mornings I was there. It was included in the 585 peso rate. I sat next to a table that was being cleaned and I noticed a plate of 5 pieces of toast with the end one being very distinctive - half dark and half light. The waiter took the plate into the kitchen and immediately returned with my plate of toast - 5 cold pieces, one half dark,half light!!

The next day along with my cold toast, I saw my small plate of butter had a slight smear of jam on it. Funny, but I hadn't used any jam! It was a re-tread from another table, only slightly cleaned-up.

Proceed with caution at PDA . . . although I DID eat the toast.

Oh well. Cheers, -P

Member #3453

02-21-06, 02:57

On the trip prior to this last trip, I became very ill on the fourth day. I have been eating in Monterrey for three years, visiting Monterrey at least once a month usually for a week at a time. Eating at Obsession, Prestige, the Best Western Restaurant, VIPS, Sandbornes, El Pollo Loco, and a host of other places, and I never had any problems.

I was always careful to avoid the street vendors, drink bottled water, etc...Anyway, on this last trip prior to my most recent one, I was short on time, and ate breakfast in the restaurant at PDA. I had eggs, toast, and bacon. I also ate lunch that same day that I became ill at El Pollo Loco. I initially thought that my "problem" was either from having eaten at Prestige, Obsession, EL Pollo Loco, or PDA restaurant. In the past, I had eaten at PDA Restaurant, but only on very limited, and infrequent occassions. I have eaten much more frequently at the other places I mentioned, and never had a problem. So, I have after much consideration, decided that it was probably the PDA restaurant where the problem occurred. I have personal knowledge that on prior occassions the PDA restaurant was under totally different management, and I never had a problem there in the past, although I did not frequent the restaurant much even then. But, this was the first time that I had eaten there since the new management had taken over the operation. I know PDA restaurant is not really owned by Proxima Hotels, but is actually a privately owned restaurant. I happen to know a guy that bought it about 2 years ago from the original owner, and the guy I used to know is no longer there. So, I believe it has again changed hands. So, I would advise all visiting PDA to avoid the restaurant unless they have iron stomachs.

Member #3453

02-21-06, 06:09

I am missing Monterrey so much today after having been home only two days that I have decided to contribute a summary of my week in Monterrey. It is cathartic to remember the good times in writing when one is going through young pretty girl withdrawal.

I’ve been having great GFE's in Monterrey for at least a year now. After having traveled all over the world in search of not only a mongering experience, but good GFE experiences as well, I can honestly say that I think I like the Mexican girls the best. I can communicate with them, and I now have every bit as good a session with them as anywhere else in the world.

Many are critical of the Mexico experience, but I find it very satisfying. And, the other thing I like about Monterrey, a conclusion that some might think is delusional on my part, is the health consideration. I really like the idea that the authorities in Monterrey check these girls frequently for diseases.

That makes me much more confident that the girls are less dangerous for me than some other venues. Some other venues are rampant with disease, and fortunately, I have never caught anything in those venues, which is probably more a testament to my preventative antibiotic cocktails I routinely take upon my return from those venues. But, Monterrey just seems safer to me in that regard. I am not naive, and I realize that in Mexico, these health programs are not fool proof. But, it is a seemingly safer venue than other venues I have visited. For me, in my present circumstances, that is pretty important to my overall peace of mind.

I bar fined one of my newer girls from El Cielo on Sunday night. Her 23rd birthday was to be on Saturday, so on Friday evening we met at PDA and I took her to dinner, and back to my room again for some fun. I had taken her to Bennigan's in Galaria Valle Oriente Mall area.

She was really lovey dovey all night, holding hands, kissing me, hugging, etc...Anyway, when they were bringing her dessert, I had whispered to the waiter that it was her birthday, and I wanted them to all sing happy birthday to her when they brought the dessert. She selected the ice cream pie with chocolate sauce, the liquid hardening type. They brought two spoons for us to share it, and it WAS delicious.

But, as they were bringing the dessert. the various waiters all came over to the table, and our waiter asked how old she was going to be, etc...she didn't have a clue what they were up to, and just had this bewildered, shocked, "deer in the headlights" look on her face. I don't think anyone has ever paid that kind of attention to her. Anyway, as they were singing happy birthday to her, she just kept saying my name, and acting embarrassed, and for a moment it seemed like she might actually cry.

She later told me she had ten brothers and sisters in her family, and when I asked her if her family was going to celebrate her birthday on Saturday, she just said they were not planning to do anything, just as though it were not anything special, nothing to celebrate, not important.

I know I am a real fool, but I feel so sorry for some of these girls. Some of them have very little love and support, and I sometimes feel really bad for them. I hope that having the waiters sing happy birthday made her feel special on the eve of her 23rd birthday. I hope my foolish romantic notions gave her some comfort if in fact her life is as tragic as the lives of some of these bar girls sometimes seem to be. I am a fool for a pretty girl.

I also saw my regular girls over at El Infinito this week as well. I bar fined one of my regulars there on Tuesday night. She was as sweet as ever. I found a new girl at El Infinito one of the nights, and I bar fined her, but she turned out to be very mechanical, and was not a GFE.

It is funny because she insisted afterwards in giving me her phone number, and wrote it on my scratch pad on the night stand. Girls like that have no clue that they are shitty providers. They don't understand what some of us want, and they have no idea that we have no interest in them, not even physically, if they are not at least decent actresses. A professional performer, one that aspires to greatness, always gives the performance from the heart.

All I could think of the entire time as she was writing her number down was how much of a gold digger she was, and that she did not know how to give of herself. I knew I would never be calling her again, and I literally threw her number in the trash can after she left. She was not bad, just mechanical, and without feeling, just not a GFE...hardened, but not a pro. A true pro is a professional actress that gives from the heart, even if only for a two hour session. While that session is going on, the actress needs to be completely within character, or it is all wasted on me.

I have come to expect more from the girls I bar fine, and if they do not deliver, I don't want to see them again. The way I figure it, I foolishly give of myself, foolishly from the heart, and I expect no less from them, especially when I have to shell out 1350 pesos in addition to also giving them a part of my own heartfelt emotion. I know I am a fool, but that's the emotion I feel for some of them.

I also bar fined a new girl from Matehuela on Monday night. She is a flaca morena. I enjoyed her company very much. She was a little shy at first, but became increasingly affectionate over time. Later in the week, I saw her again in the privados at Matehuela, and she was very, very, affectionate indeed, much more so than when I test drove her in the privados prior to deciding to bar fine her. I think I grew on her. I will definitely try to see her again when I return to Monterrey. I think she has the potential to be a really sweet GFE, probably more so now than the first time because she seemed like she had really taken a liking to me after that first night bar fine.

I actually decided to spend a night or two alone to recharge my batteries. Of course, each night I prowled the clubs, did some privados, etc. and I did a total of about five bars fines over the course of the week. I think I spent Wednesday and Thursday night prowling the clubs with Carlos, going to Harem, Bahamas, and Infinito, so on those nights I think I may have gone back to the hotel alone...I don't remember exactly which nights I spent alone, but I think it was only one or two nights.

All in all, a great week of fun and frolic in Monterrey. I am sooooooooo sad here now, back home in the USA...15 degrees outside, as opposed to the average temperature in Monterrey, around 85 degrees last Thursday...and no 19-23 year old pretty, nubile, affectionate girls to keep me company. Oh well, time heals all, and if it were not for the prospect of there being a next month, a subsequent trip, I would probably be hopelessly distraught, LOL.

Prokofiev

02-23-06, 17:53

I just checked out the Signore website again -http://www.signore.com.mx/principal.html - as a little reminder of my latest trip and I now see that there is a 100p promoción for service between 10am and 3pm. Probably have to ask for it. I also noticed that the bio on Vanessa says she is 28 yo. When I asked her her age she said 22. Any bets on which is correct?? She might be 30+! The line-up of chicas on their site is real. Not sure about the bios . . .

But I did notice that prices were cheaper at some places just since December. There seems to be no shortage of chicas and many esteticas now advertise a 100p to 150p price for early service. Two places have an 80p rate. I find this somewhat incredible. How much do the girls keep? Maybe 50%?? Maybe less. So they are giving 30 min of FS for between $4 and $7 US! Monterrey is quite unique in this regard. I have been to DF, Guadalajara, Xalapa, Veracruz, TJ, Puebla, Morelia . . . and have never seen prices that low. For instance the estetica "High Class" in Guadalajara is a favorite for many posters on WSG and 2 years ago minimum service was 450-500p, with many paying 600-700p. Monterrey is an absolute bargain . . .

Enjoy, -P

MonterreyDude

02-23-06, 18:45

Yes, it sounds nice, but for that price you only get like 15 minutes of nothing: a real quick quickie at best, one position, no touch, no groping and that's it.
You still need to tip the girl for a better service and at those prices, the girls just don't cooperate as you would wish....

I just checked out the Signore website again -http://www.signore.com.mx/principal.html - as a little reminder of my latest trip and I now see that there is a 100p promoción for service between 10am and 3pm. Probably have to ask for it. I also noticed that the bio on Vanessa says she is 28 yo. When I asked her her age she said 22. Any bets on which is correct?? She might be 30+! The line-up of chicas on their site is real. Not sure about the bios . . .

But I did notice that prices were cheaper at some places just since December. There seems to be no shortage of chicas and many esteticas now advertise a 100p to 150p price for early service. Two places have an 80p rate. I find this somewhat incredible. How much do the girls keep? Maybe 50%?? Maybe less. So they are giving 30 min of FS for between $4 and $7 US! Monterrey is quite unique in this regard. I have been to DF, Guadalajara, Xalapa, Veracruz, TJ, Puebla, Morelia . . . and have never seen prices that low. For instance the estetica "High Class" in Guadalajara is a favorite for many posters on WSG and 2 years ago minimum service was 450-500p, with many paying 600-700p. Monterrey is an absolute bargain . . .

Enjoy, -P

Lion Killer

02-24-06, 03:50

Hehehehe,

Keep them informed Carlos, you only get what you pay for, whether its in the good ol USA or Mexico the rules are the same, you get what you pay for. Gentlemen Carlos is the most informed best help you will ever receive in Monterrey, trust and abide by his suggestions/opinions.

LK

Member #3453

02-24-06, 15:17

On the few occassions that I have gone to the massage places in MTY, it has usually been to the more expensive ones, the ones with a larger selection of hotties. On those occassions, it has cost me approximately 600 pesos intially, and then with extras added on, usually in the heat of the moment, and under the influence of the considerable leverage they have over us as they play their little games of extortion, I find that my expenditure can easily reach 800-900 pesos. Even in the medium quality places, where massage starts around 400 pesos, the final bill usually escalates to around 600-700 pesos.

IMO, in the high-end massage places, 800-900 pesos for about 1/2-hour to 45 minutes is NOT a bargain. So, rather than patronize the high-end massage places, I usually like to bar fine girls from the strip clubs, even at what many would consider an outrageous amount of 1350 pesos. But, that is 1350 pesos for two to four hours, at my hotel, where anything goes, no BS. Plus, I am getting real GFE with the girls I bar fine, especially the ones that I know from prior trips. With some of these girls, the bar fine is actually only 350 pesos, and many of them leave the amount I pay to them up to me.

I choose to pay them well, usually slightly higher than necessary, for obvious reasons. But, it is very doable to get a girl from the strip clubs to your hotel, on her off time, for up to about 4-6 hours for about 800 pesos total, no bar fine. I usually choose to pay slightly more than this amount, but 600-800 pesos is the going rate for girls meeting you on their off time at your hotel depending on time spent.

I realize other mongers are referring to spending considerably less than 1350 pesos, and certainly less than 600-900 pesos for massage, but the massage session described here, the cheaper option, must also be qualified. Those 100 peso sessions are typically for sessions where quality is considerably less than what I have gotten for 600-800 pesos at the high end massage places, and there is NO comparison to the quality you can bar fine from the strip clubs versus the quality of the girls you will routinely find working in the massage parlors, especially if personality and attitude are important to you.

The massage experience, whether high-end or low-end, is generally a very mechanical experience, almost clinical IMHO. So, if I am paying 600-800 pesos for quality girls at the high-end massage places, with supposedly better GFE attitudes and a generally far superior appearance, and I come away with feeling that those sessions are "mechanical," then I can only imagine the experience that one might expect from a massage that is only 100 pesos.

When you amortize the cost of a cheap low-end massage, perhaps an average cost of 100p for 30 minutes, a promised period of time that is almost always somehow much shorter than my watch seems to indicate, you do get great value for your money, but rarely does it equate to anything close to a GFE. Certainly, at 100 pesos, I theorize that one must come away unsatisfied emotionally after having experienced a GFE bar fine experience in comparison.

I have found that in the massage places, I have no control over the circumstances. I usually feel more like I am in a doctors office rather than a setting that might otherwise be more romantic or erotic. One has to contend with a glorified elevated cot, a chica that can not wait to "fineesh," and you have to hope that the shower and room is in a relatively clean condition as not to turn you completely off.

However, in all fairness, some of the high-end places have pretty good facilities. I am mostly referring to the medium and low quality places, places starting at around 80-400 pesos when referring to the glorified cot, and the quality of the room and shower, etc...

However, to qualify my comments, I have not experienced Signore Massage, and these comments are not meant to specifically contradict my friends who have reported on that particular establishment and sung its praises. I'm talking here just in general terms about the massage parlor experience in MTY, and what one can typically expect for certain levels of expenditure. After having read the reviews of Signore, I will probably give it a try just to say I have been there, and hope that I will be pleasantly surprised.

I have generally concluded that in MTY, if you are looking for a quick release, cheap, with no frills, then the low cost massage places might be an option. But, if you have another agenda, and you prefer a GFE to the massage environment I've described here, then you will undoubtedly be disappointed in comparison to a real bar fine, even after you have saved a ton of money.

I realize that all things are relative as to what a monger can afford, etc...and there are times when I look at what I have spent in a week's worth of bar fining girls in MTY from the strip clubs, and been somewhat depressed. But, I also have some fond memories to comfort me as I go to the poor house, not to mention some well established GFE candidates for future trips.

Also, another advantage to bar fining them is that those established GFE contacts get theoretically cheaper every time I am with them, unless I choose to compensate them well, which I generally do anyway, more as a chivalrous gesture to help them out, girls that have become my friends, rather than a requirement that might otherwise be necessary to maintain a GFE relationship with them for the future.

Prokofiev

02-24-06, 18:56

"Hehehehe,
Keep them informed Carlos, you only get what you pay for"

"Yes, it sounds nice, but for that price you only get like 15 minutes of nothing: a real quick quickie at best, one position, no touch, no groping and that's it"

"then I can only imagine the experience that one might expect from a massage that is only 100 pesos"

"Certainly, at 100 pesos, I theorize that one must come away unsatisfied emotionally"

Well, wrong, wrong and . . . wrong. I described in detail what I received and what I paid on 8 different occasions. No need to theorize or imagine. That is the point of my posting! Do you think I am lying? Every estetica I listed, I personally visited, talked with the manager and the girls. I checked out the rooms – when I could. Everyplace offered CBJ and 3 positions- minimum. I spent between 25 and 35 minutes with each girl. Only once was I called for time. Some sessions were “emotionally unsatisfying” but several were great. Everything was as reported. At Signore last week I had 4 positions with Vanessa the first time and 5 the second. No complaints. I touched her in ways most men have never touched their wives! No complaints. My session at Euforia in December was as GFE as could be imagined.

Look - I took the time to list and post this info in case someone else was interested in the details and how to recreate what I had discovered. Not to brag or put-down someone else’s choices. Different strokes. What works for me, may not work for you. Someone I find as attractive may not appeal to you. YMMV – meaning that the experience I have with a chica may not be the same as yours. Please don’t get the idea that I abuse or mistreat these girls. It’s just the opposite – I treat them like Princesses, which is probably why I usually have a great time with them. I speak Spanish well (although not perfectly) so maybe that is not an option with everyone. I rub their backs, joke with them, talk about their children and tell them how wonderful they are. Maybe that’s the secret??

"it has cost me approximately 600 pesos intially, and then with extras added on, usually in the heat of the moment, and under the influence of the considerable leverage they have over us as they play their little games of extortion, I find that my expenditure can easily reach 800-900 pesos"

Well, that is what worries some readers, since paying $75-$85+ US for a mechanical and unsatisfying session hardly justifies a trip to Monterrey. Doesn't have to be that way. But I have no vested interest in convincing anyone of anything. I only post my experiences to help anyone else who may want to travel the same path as I.

Mucha suerte. Hasta luego, -P

MonterreyDude

02-24-06, 19:12

You are asuming wrong Prokofiev and getting the wrong idea.
Lion Killer is also an expert in MP here in Monterrey, and his post as was Unspongebobs were just opinions.
MPs are not Unspongebob forté, so he was only expresing his analisis of the situation here.
All, including mine, came from your post telling us "Two places have an 80p rate. I find this somewhat incredible. How much do the girls keep? Maybe 50%?? Maybe less. So they are giving 30 min of FS for between $4 and $7 US! Monterrey is quite unique in this regard."
From experience, minimal on my account, basic on Unspongebobs, full on Lion Killer's and totally pro from world famous Porker, we can say that you can expect a horrible service from an MP that offers an 8 dlls service.
That's what we were posting here.
Have in mind Prokofiev that we all know each other personally, have met, shared a lunch and girls at the Obsession, had a drink at the Infinito... so this is an extension of our chats.
We add our posts in this Forum and yours too, of course to a sum of knowldage, opinion, consensus, discusion, orientiation... it is a conversation between people: you sir, LK, UB, Porker, me, all that know and have been here and know quite well our respective expertise and aply it in Monterrey.
You know, a simple exchange of ideas....
That's what's going on....

"Hehehehe,
Keep them informed Carlos, you only get what you pay for"

"Yes, it sounds nice, but for that price you only get like 15 minutes of nothing: a real quick quickie at best, one position, no touch, no groping and that's it"

"then I can only imagine the experience that one might expect from a massage that is only 100 pesos"

"Certainly, at 100 pesos, I theorize that one must come away unsatisfied emotionally"

Well, wrong, wrong and . . . wrong. I described in detail what I received and what I paid on 8 different occasions. No need to theorize or imagine. That is the point of my posting! Do you think I am lying? Every estetica I listed, I personally visited, talked with the manager and the girls. I checked out the rooms – when I could. Everyplace offered CBJ and 3 positions- minimum. I spent between 25 and 35 minutes with each girl. Only once was I called for time. Some sessions were “emotionally unsatisfying” but several were great. Everything was as reported. At Signore last week I had 4 positions with Vanessa the first time and 5 the second. No complaints. I touched her in ways most men have never touched their wives! No complaints. My session at Euforia in December was as GFE as could be imagined.

Look - I took the time to list and post this info in case someone else was interested in the details and how to recreate what I had discovered. Not to brag or put-down someone else’s choices. Different strokes. What works for me, may not work for you. Someone I find as attractive may not appeal to you. YMMV – meaning that the experience I have with a chica may not be the same as yours. Please don’t get the idea that I abuse or mistreat these girls. It’s just the opposite – I treat them like Princesses, which is probably why I usually have a great time with them. I speak Spanish well (although not perfectly) so maybe that is not an option with everyone. I rub their backs, joke with them, talk about their children and tell them how wonderful they are. Maybe that’s the secret??

"it has cost me approximately 600 pesos intially, and then with extras added on, usually in the heat of the moment, and under the influence of the considerable leverage they have over us as they play their little games of extortion, I find that my expenditure can easily reach 800-900 pesos"

Well, that is what worries some readers, since paying $75-$85+ US for a mechanical and unsatisfying session hardly justifies a trip to Monterrey. Doesn't have to be that way. But I have no vested interest in convincing anyone of anything. I only post my experiences to help anyone else who may want to travel the same path as I.

Mucha suerte. Hasta luego, -P

Lion Killer

02-24-06, 22:46

Carlos,

Thanks, I could not have said it better myself. Our chat/comments are not to offend anyone. I know Carlos very well and respect him very much. No hate, discontent or anything else is meant, sorry if some take it that way. Its not my intention nor has it ever been to flame or make foolish anyone's post. Keep them coming thats what this board is all about. Peace.

LK

Member #3453

02-24-06, 23:37

Prok,

I didn't mean to appear to contradict your assessment, but as Carlos says, my intention was to illustrate the difference between preferences, and to explain my preferences so that like minded individuals, individuals that might be contemplating a trip to Monterrey, could understand that, if their preferences are similar to mine, a "typical" massage experience in Monterrey would more than likely be unsatisfying to them.

You can rest assured that after having heard such postitive assessments about Signore, I will definitely visit them the next time I'm in MTY. I don't dispute the intentions behind your positive assessment of Signore specificially. I am merely skeptical that most guys having my same preferences would consistently receive the satisfaction level you apparently found at Signore in most of the other massage parlors in MTY. I have not visited Signore, so I can not comment on what you found there.

Perhaps your experience was especially lucky, or you are particularly charming with the girls, thereby resulting in a superior massage parlor experience compared to what is typically available in MTY. But, my own experience in Monterrey, which is quite limited really, having visited all of maybe five massage places total over four years, has been generally unsatisfying.

I appreciate your contribution to the board, and your assessments, which are as valid as any, because they are one reporter's assessment at a specific time, when perhaps things are quite good at a particular establishment. Even the qualty at the strip clubs fluctuate wildly...One month there are great opportunities at a particular club, or group of clubs, and the next month, almost nothing.

I am sometimes discouraged by what I find in Monterrrey, sometimes resulting in my own disappointment. Just ask Carlos, he has to sometimes give me therapy, and a good talking to, reminding me that the quality is in a constant state of flux as the generations of girls change. Carlos has to remind me of this all the time, especially when I have come off a particularly disappointing trip. LOL :-) But, generally I am pretty happy with the prospects in Monterrey.

But, if in fact there is a massage parlor out there, even one having a temporary opportunity for satisfaction that is not typical to MTY, then by all means, we should all "jump on it," no pun intended. Because my experience, and the experience of most regular visitors to MTY, is that the quality, especially of the massage parlors, changes with considerable frequency. Typically, what is good today in a particular place, is not so good tomorrow, or more accurately, next month. That is even more true with respect to visiting various massage parlors in Monterrey that are in the 100 peso range.

Thanks for the review...hope to meet you sometime in MTY.

Porker

02-26-06, 02:33

Well here, think on THIS: Just about EVERYONE is right in this thread! Do NOT go to the massage places looking for a GFE. This is whether one rubs their back and/or kisses their asses or not. If you go there looking for GFE, you are likely to be disappointed. Of course it is INDEED available there on the odd occasion with the right girl, and tipping well in advance may indeed increase your odds.

The massaje places with the ultra-low prices and promo prices are generally wisely avoided. The places that usually feature shitty attitudes feature EXTRA shitty attitudes during the promo times. Intuitively you would think that you can tilt the balance between the girl's cut and the house's by visiting during promo time and offering a premium tip, but my experience has shown that a girl in a shitty MP with a shitty attitude will give you shitty service even if you pay her abnormally well. My advice: avoid the cheapest (less than 150 pesos) and places that offer promo fees at all costs. The BEST you can hope for in those places is that by offering a tip of 100 pesos or more the girl can provide you with merely decent service.

All that being said, to add some confusion, there are occasional exceptions/lucky events.

ALL THIS BEING SAID: Hooters/Signore is not your average massage place in Monterrey. They offer consistently excellent service, and it is one of the only places in town where I have NEVER had a complaint. The girls are certainly appreciative of tips offered for extra service, but I have NEVER felt pressured to offer them. The girls will 'jala' (work) whether you up the ante to them or not. They are an AWESOME value, in that regard, and the fact that you get a real king size bed with a mirror on the ceiling is an added bonus. If Hooters/Signore offers a promo price, it's worth looking into. Anywhere else? The 'you get what you pay for' posts are chock full of wisdom.

USB, the advantage of the MP's is that you can actually lay down and screw the girl instead of fucking on a hard chair in the table dance places. I think we'd ALL agree that neither of those things compare to taking the girl for a couple hours to your room. Of course paying 130+ usd for that privilege is overpriced no matter how you want to slice it. And don't forget puking pesos on drinks and privado money to get the girl out of the bar and into your room in the first place.

USB, while it is indeed POSSIBLE to get off duty club girls into your room for several hours for 80 bucks, it's quite the rare occurrence, one usually bestowed on well-paying customers, and if you're trying to lead people to believe that this happens all the time, you're not doing them any favors.

Also, my opinion, the 'medium' priced massage places charging 400+ pesos plus 'extras' are generally places looking to rip off newbies. The girls are generally marginally better looking, but still nowhere near the quality you'd expect to see in the strip clubs. I can well imagine someone having buyers remorse after puking pesos in those places. The 'memories' just likely won't be worth it.

Prokoviev, USB, Carlos, Lion Killer, et al., I want to say thanks once again for all your contributions here on the board. We can ALL learn from each other, and sharing experiences about your good times helps us all. If someone disagrees with something you posted, perhaps a good discussion will come from it all. Please KEEP posting.

Member #3453

02-26-06, 15:30

I will acknowledge that arranging hotel visits does require some work, and it is also not without its frustration level. The less experience you have in Monterrey arranging outcall and/or salidas, the more frustrating the endeavor will probably be, especially if you do not speak any Spanish.

In Monterrey, even if you sometimes make a date with the girl for an 800 peso hotel visit, some girls are not that reliable, and fifty percent of the time they may not show up. But, 800 pesos IS the going rate for Gringos, and I believe it's even less for locals. I believe that for locals, the going rate for a hotel visit is more around the 500-600 pesos, but I will defer to Carlos on that one.

As a Gringo, I usually plan on having to spend between 800-1000 pesos for between 2-6 hours, and sometimes I will give them more if I'm feeling generous. I generally choose to pay a salida to the bar, which is an additional 350 pesos. But, my usual level of generosity is not something that's absolutely necessary, and certainly not something that is required to get them to your hotel, or to have them leaving satisfied with their compensation. Many times, if I give them additional compensation it is because they decided to stay a much longer period of time than expected, or they were especially sweet.

There are times that I have spent as little as 500 pesos on the girl's portion of the overall compensation, and that is for a perfect GFE, plus the salida of 350 pesos. So, if you want to save the 350 pesos salida to the bar, then the 800 peso hotel visit IS routinely available if you know what you are doing and depending on the girl. I usually choose not to do outcalls where I have to rely on the girl to remember to show up because I prefer a sure thing. So, I just pay the bar fine instead. Time is money, and I have chosen instead to go with the sure thing because wasted time is frustrating to me.

I have routinely gotten girls out of the strip clubs for as little as 500-800 pesos, after having also paid the 350 peso bar fine. But, for a newbie to Monterrey, the 1350 bar fine inclusive, for 1-1/2 hours is pretty easily accomplished, and depending on the girl, usually with only a few privados or drinks having to be purchased.

In order to have them showing up at your hotel, it is generally necessary to get to know them so they are comfortable about leaving with you, or meeting you outside the relative safety of the club. Some girls from the strip clubs will NOT go with you on the first meeting, and you will need to get to know them over time. But, there are just as many that will go with you at the drop of a hat, whether they know you well or not. At this juncture, I do not have to spend much money on drinks, or buying a lot of privados, to get them to agree to meet me outside the club or to go with me on a salida.

Do I spend money on privados and drinks?
Sure, but only because I enjoy it. It's not necessary for me to spend a lot on drinks and privados in order for me to get outcall or a salida at this juncture. There are many occassions where I have walked into a club and taken a girl out to my hotel after only one privado before bar fining her, which is more a requirement I impose, more as a way to verify that I will be satisfied with her performance. Lately, I have literally bar fined girls after meeting them for the first time and spending only ten minutes with them in the bar.

Porker, regarding your comment that 1350 pesos is too much to pay for outcall, you must have forgotten the realities of living in the US, or you have grown spoiled in Mexico, and you've forgotten what it is like to live in the wasteland :-).

Your belief that 1350 pesos is excessive does not take into consideration the cost of outcall in the USA, where the price for "stripper quality" young, nubile, hotties would significantly exceed 1350 pesos. So, for a Gringo from the USA, it is a bargain for the quality that's available in comparison to what we have available here in the US, not to mention the added benefit of the quality of GFE that is available in Monterrey. Furthermore, there is literally NO venue in the USA that offers a legal centralized selection like what's available in the strip clubs of Monterrey.

I agree with your statement that it is significantly more comfortable to see the girls in the Massage Parlors compared to taking them in the privados, and I fully understand and agree with your preference to do that. Full service in the privados is something I rarely partake in because it is dirty, uncomfortable, and IMHO, a rip-off. Not only do you have to pay the girl for full service, but you also have to pay for racking up privado songs. The added cost of remaining in the privados for a number of songs in order to finish, in an environment that is not always conducive to finishing, can accumulate to the point of being almost as expensive as a session at one of the high end massage parlors, where you would have otherwise had the additional comfort and cleanliness of a nice room, shower, etc...

While I don't frequently partake in the massage parlors, I have made many visits looking for doable girls. I have often visited a number of the medium priced massage parlors, hoping to find a girl that is comparable to the "stripper" quality I am used to in the clubs, and I have a very difficult time finding anything even remotely comparable to what I am used to bar fining. I know they do exist, but I find them to be very illusive, and I find that it takes a significant amount of effort looking for them before actually finding one I like. Of course, the other frustration is that once you do find one, they usually only last a very short period of time, and then they are gone from the establishment the next time you visit, never to be found again.

I find that most massage parlor girls lack the level of personality and charm I prefer compared to the girls in the clubs. That is why I prefer to bar fine or outcall strippers from the clubs. I enjoy interacting with the girls in clubs, where drinks are their primary compensation, and I prefer to bar fine from that venue for specific reasons.

The high end clubs command even a higher total bar fine than 1350 pesos, usually more like 2000-3000 pesos, but they have girls that are even better candidates for bar fine than my usual haunts, El Infinito, Matehuela, and El Cielo. I believe the high end places probably do possess a better range of selection than my usual haunts because their girls possess the combination of charm and physical attractiveness needed to survive in a business where they make their living soliciting expensive drinks, and selling privados.

To me, personality and charm can almost be as important as physical beauty, which is usually almost always a given anyway with a 2000-3000 peso bar fine. But, I am simply too cheap to pay 2000-3000 pesos for a bar fine, plus the drinks and privados that are required of the high end places, so I choose to troll the waters of El Infinito, Matehuela, and El Cielo instead. I do seem to routinely find close to "high-end" quality candidates at 1350 pesos, so I've accepted my self imposed exile to El Infinito, Matehuela, and El Cielo, and I limit my endeavors to those venues because I can't afford to bar fine from the higher end clubs.

It sounds like the facilities at Signore are significantly better for the money compared to "most" of the other massage parlors in Monterrey. It sounds like their facilities are more akin to the premium rooms at the high end massage parlors based on the stellar reports I've been reading lately. If Signore is that much better than other massage parlors in Monterrey, then those of us visiting from the US are in for an "A-Typical" massage parlor experience at Signore, one that is certainly rare and not rouinely available in Monterrey for the price.

Porker

02-26-06, 17:14

The rooms at Signore are not extremely nice, but I would imagine would be good enough for most. The building is quite old, and I am extremely glad they put a sheet on top of their mattresses! But they do indeed have the king size beds and mirrors on the ceilings, and the bathrooms are of about average cleanliness and of course have running water. I'm a little down on the place at the moment, though, because I went there Friday noonish and the new fave was already busy. Time to start pimping someplace else!

USB, give yourself some credit, you go to MTY enough and know enough people that playing the game, for you, is not difficult. Expecting that others can easily duplicate your results is overly optimistic. I've never paid a girl more than 900 pesos for a salida, and I've paid a barfine exactly once, as I DO have more patience than money. But the downside is that you better be prepared to get stood up if you're planning on girls coming over with no barfine. For a first time visitor, expecting to get a club girl into your room for less than 130 bucks is wishful thinking.

Member #3453

02-26-06, 18:24

I would only be shocked, that is, at the prospect of seeing my own physique in the mirrors on the ceiling at Signore. Regardless of how pretty my chica might be, the sobering realities of seeing myself with her in that shocking reflection would only serve to diminish the overall erotic effect that a mirrored ceiling might otherwise have, LOL.

Regardless of the mirrored ceiling's effects on my overall experience, the other amenities sound good. I will give it a try next trip, and hope that it continues with it's currently reported level of satisfaction.

Regarding the level of my own experience in Monterrey, I have no doubt spent a huge amount of cash over the years in order to arrive at a point where I can actually successfully bar fine a girl almost each night, and feel that I have received satisfaction. These days I rate my satisfaction level at around 75%-80%. Several years ago, my satisfaction level was probably closer to 50% or less most of the time.

You are quite correct when you say there have been soooooo many countless times in past years when I have attempted to make arrangements with certain girls for them to visit me at my hotel after hours, and they have not shown up. This occurred to me almost 90% of the time several years ago. But, now I seem to have a much better success rate than a couple of years ago. So, perhaps it is improved language skills, or maybe all those years of puking pesos is finally paying off. Perhaps I have learned through costly trial and error.

Hopefully, our combined comments here on the board, all of us together, will enlighten other guys coming to Monterrey, and perhaps they can avoid the excessive expenditures, and years of time invested, to ultimately arrive at a decent level of success and satisfaction.

Frank Lucas

02-26-06, 19:02

Question for Carlos Perez

I plan on coming down sometime around March 20th or so. Not sure if to fly or bus it. Can you tell me which would be closer. Reynosa or Nuevo Laredo if coming to MTY via bus. Just a little concerned about all the cartel stuff in NL.

MonterreyDude

02-26-06, 20:01

Same distance both, same time to get to Monterrey, although, getting into Monterrey from Reynosa is like half an hour extra to get into the Central de Autobuses.

Question for Carlos Perez

I plan on coming down sometime around March 20th or so. Not sure if to fly or bus it. Can you tell me which would be closer. Reynosa or Nuevo Laredo if coming to MTY via bus. Just a little concerned about all the cartel stuff in NL.

Big Tex

02-27-06, 21:15

Hi fellas!! Man, this board has been a torrent of info lately, thank you everyone.

On Carlos' and everyone else's recommendation, I tried Infinito last thursday. I gotta say, you guys are right on the money. I was there in the afternoon and there were a ton of super fit extremely attractive chicas available. It wasn't crowded, so I was a bit overwhelmed. And yes, every girl on the floor is available and eager to do a privada. When I go to these places, I like to relax for a while and have a couple beers. After two beautiful chicas approached me within the first 5 minutes, I had to ask the masero to run interference for me for a while so I could make up my mind. Ended up chatting with a knock out Morena for a few minutes (thank god for Spanglish) and took her for a privada. Got her naked and lewdly touched her in every place imaginable while she grined away. She was eager to negotiate more, but I don't know, I just have a hard time taking advavntage of the full menu in a strip club. Call it stage fright, I don't know. Had another privada with a short, again really fit, 20 year old a while later. I thought the quality of girls was way superior to Matehuala's and this wasn't even close to prime time. I will certainly add this to my a-list.

But for me, I still like the scene at Matehuala's a little better. I can chill out as long as I want and can get a privada with any girl I want with the help of the waiter. You have to wait, but I don't mind.

Nuevo Laredo....What I am about to say is my opinion only. I apologize in advance to any of you who have family there or for whatever reason like the place. I'm sure it has it's merits, but I didn't see any. That being said.....

What a shit hole. I was driving back to Monterrey with a friend who insisted we stop there. If you google Nuevo Laredo, you will hear about all the killings related to the narco war going on. I really wasn't worried at all about this because we weren't straying from the beaten path and the crime is pretty much isolated to those in the drug business, so no worries for us. We heard that the downtown are had some fun bars and decided to check it out. As I was walking down the street I was constantly hasseled by guys trying to sell me drugs and women. The bar scene is not fun. A bunch of very drunk low life Americans (I am not calling Americans low lifes, just the ones I saw here. I'm a proud American myself). The federales are driving up and down the streets with machine guns. Very bad scene, totally sucked.

We hopped a cab to the area of town with the strip clubs and hookers, called "boystown." I won't go into this too much, but let me say, I have never seen a bigger collection of completey nasty, way overpriced hookers in my life. They have these girls that stand in the doorways to these little rooms that you hire for the half hour. As you all know from my previous posts, my standards aren't high, and there was not one girl there or in the bars that was worth my while. If there aren't any that are good enough for Big Tex, you can be certain they are not good enough for any of you guys. Aside from the poor quality of women, the whole place had a depressing vibe. Stay the fuck away. The only reason this place exists is because people don't know that 2 1/2 hours away is Monterrey. A nice city, with nice people, where you can get whatever you want safely and without hassle.

Signore. Lots of posting on this place, so I hate to flog a dead horse, but as you can probably guess, I was kind of addicted to this place. Tried another girl named Grecia. She looked quite attractive in the slutty clothes she was wearing in the salon, but once she was naked, she was quite disapointing. But, of course, she was good enough. We got into the usual, but while I was fucking her, I started to lose interest. She just wasn't doing it for me. Then I thought if I ask for something totally nasty, I would regain interest. I asked her if she liked anal and she enthusiastically said yes. She said it costs 500 pesos. Expensive, but rico. That, of course is ridiculous, so we settled on 300. Regained my interest as I was pounding her doggy style with my hands against the wall. I was looking for nasty and I found it. Thought I would push it and asked if I could come in her mouth. She agreed, but didn't ask for more money. More proof I paid too much. I enjoyed my session with Grecia only because it was so sleazy. (to clarify, everything was covered except the oral)I would certainly not recommend her.

As good a value as it is, I am now tired of Signore. After all, I am in this hobby for variety above all else. I'll search elsewhere, certainly with varying results, and let you know.

Cheers all

Minnesotah

02-27-06, 21:47

I am in MTY right now. Yesterday night, I went to Obsession (open on sunday in reason of the Grand Prix.). They asked me USD 240 for 1 hour of fs. WTF? Even Canada is cheaper than that. I will try to manage something nice during the balance of my journey here. P.S. I took a Greyhound to cross the border, then a Futura coach in Nuevo Laredo and everything was fine. Good tips, guys. Stay tuned for more infos!

MonterreyDude

02-28-06, 02:59

Hell Minnesotah!!!
No one goes to the Obsession or any other five star club at night to get FS!!!
NO-ONE... and now you know why.
For what you paid, you could have had 2 girls from the Matehuala or Infinito in you room for 2 hours.
Or in a drastic way, 20 F/S at these places!!!!

I am in MTY right now. Yesterday night, I went to Obsession (open on sunday in reason of the Grand Prix.). They asked me USD 240 for 1 hour of fs. WTF? Even Canada is cheaper than that. I will try to manage something nice during the balance of my journey here. P.S. I took a Greyhound to cross the border, then a Futura coach in Nuevo Laredo and everything was fine. Good tips, guys. Stay tuned for more infos!

MonterreyDude

03-04-06, 08:42

Guys: to quote a catch phrase, "The world must be coming to and end"
I was having lunch with a couple of guys from this Forum here in Monterrey, Porker included in the list, at the Prestige, one of the 5 star clubs that offer a lunch buffette.
We are like 5 at a big table having fun, "Wasted" from the Forum has 2 girls making out and kissing for us, I have my own, the other 2 guys have their girls too and as always, my friend Porker is alone with no company (cause, as we all know, he dares not pay a drink to a club girl... no sir, money that will end for the boyfriend, never)
Suddenly a big assed tall blond girl slips into a space next to Porker and they start chatting, a drink pops up in front of the girl... ever watchful I ask who ordered a double tequila (150 pesos drink) for the girl (Tiffany).
One of the guys says "I did... it's ok" so Porker has like a coule of seconds before the girl gulps the drink down...
But no, I suddenly see another drink and I ask Porker who's paying
He answers: Iam...
Mother of JC!!! the end of the world!!!! Believe me I couldn't grasp those words as being true.... Porker paying a drink, an EXPENSIVE drink to a girl. A 150 pesos drink!!!
The girl, Tiffany is quite comely,was rubbing his ass on Porkers lap, she was letting herslef be bodily explored by the Porkmeister himself, he was grabing ass and squeezing it as you guys squeeze an orange...
Hell! I nearly fell to the floor when he asks for another drink!!!!
By this time they were making out to my right hand side (quite a weird spectacle.. Porker making out is something I do not recomend to be seen).
The girl was totally commited to Porker, nothing seemed to matter to her... till her drink was finished, meaning she had to go.
But, oh surprise, the girl would just not leave! She wanted to stay with the manly Porker.
She couldn't be pryed of him.. they had to PA her to the dressing rooms so she would let him be.
Believe me... this took like half an hour or maybe more.
Porker had to go home, so he left... he had a smile on his face.
So the moral of the story is: you pay drinks, you get ass. You pay expensive drinks at an expensive club, you get a very pretty and horny girl with a nice ass.

Porker

03-04-06, 15:15

I wish I had the cash to spend so extravagantly more often, but I just don't. It's reserved for Asia, where I'm heading back to in 4 1/2 weeks.

Member #3453

03-04-06, 15:20

IT IS A TRICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let me think about this....what is he up to?

Maybe...he is only baiting us with his bahavior, spending the money for the future satisfaction of telling us later that it was not worth it.

Hummmm, Porker is close to making another trip to Asia within just a few short weeks, and it certainly IS out of character for him to engage in this sorted behavior, especially with the prospect of another Asia trip so close at hand. The logic of doing so for him, is very uncharacteristic. How does Porker say it? "Puking Pesos on Lady's Drinks in exchange for a little peck on the cheek." hummmmmmmm, what is he up to?

The truth is, if you really want to enjoy the fruits of Monterrey, you HAVE to spend money on charming the girls. There are other venues throughout the world that may be better for cheaper pouying, but the travel cost and travel time make those venues off limits to Porker most of the year.

By the way, all that smooching is PROHIBITED in Obsession and Prestige...so, he apparently did quite well puking pesos.

I think Porker is very controlled in his spending, and I DO NOT believe that he had a weak moment. I personally believe that he may be, after witnessing our puking of pesos for many years, and also upon careful contemplation, be modifying his approach to Monterrey as a venue. I just can't believe he would buy girl's drinks in a club like Obsession or Prestige without having a very specific tactical reason.

With him living so close to Monterrey, I think a reasonable investment made to charm some good "regular" prospects for the lull time between trips to the PI and Indo is wise. If he makes the investment now, which usually begins with Ladies drinks, the ultimate price he will be paying for those same girls outside the clubs will probably stabalize to a point of being relatively affordable for him over time. At least it would give him something other than just the massage scene to tide him over during his excile from SEA.

I have been trying to pursuade him for years that there is some advantage to buying lady's drinks. Now all I have to do is convince him that he should be paying for my lady's drinks too :-)

Porker

03-05-06, 09:25

LOL, USB, I was buying jarras in MTY while you were still leering at your secretary and daydreaming about how to get some 'strange'!

My ONLY excuse: I was drunk!

Member #3453

03-05-06, 13:49

But, OK, that explains it...

Does that mean all I have to do is get you drunk, and you will pay for my lady's drinks too then?

Minnesotah

03-05-06, 18:17

Let me confirm you than I didn't and I won't pay US$ 240 for a chica mexicana as beautiful as she could be (and who hell know how they came be beautiful). My only expenses at Obsessions was a few drinks for my novia (that I don't even really recall her name) and myself, then four very hot lap dances. She was really in the mood. :) So, it was good time, but I didn't wanted to spent much there. If I went there on the Sunday night, because I didn't explored enough yet to find out the clubs off Madero and I needed to pratice my spanish skills more actively to be ready for the next days. It is really funny to practice your language skills when you drank your cerveza with a top model sitting on both of your leg. :)

So, on the next night, I finally found that awesome Calle Julian Villagante Norte. It starts right in front of the bus depot, but after passing Avenida Madero, it is THE fishing pond where most of the clubs are located and they're also a few dirt cheap hairdressers (N$30) around there, if interested. There's a club with a small black glass door right next to door number 930 called D Libra. 120 pesos + 10 extra for their condom. They only speak spanish, but this is a good reason to learn that language. The walls are a "little dirty", but the chicas are good looking. The service is quite mechanical, but who cares at USD 13.00! It is almost free of charge! I wanted to have them posed for me, but they're quite camera-shy. Monday night, I have meet a moranita named Darla and the next morning another morona named Roxana. That chica have curly hair to her shoulders and was wearing a clear babydoll. Not fat, not skinny, but her belly skin seems a little stretched. It was not like something else! Darla was physically quite similar to Roxana.

When I left MTY, the bus went down Madero and I saw Harem. Since now I know where it is, I will be good to drop by there next time. It is not close to the other clubs.

My hotel was Plaza del Arco as recommended on this forum. One of their receptionnist is a 12/10 in my book. Her head and body are perfect! Never saw someone good looking as her. That hotel is nice, clean and really well located (a block from the bus depot and Metrorey, plus 4 or 5 blocks from Calle Julian Villagrante Norte), but a little expensive to my mexican expectations. Also, a turn-off was its lack of fridge in the room. They're repainting their exterior walls white. I was on the Piso 4 (top floor) and I went back to my room once during the monday afternoon, I saw the roof seemed to push down, because some worker have walked on top of it. Maybe next time I might compare it and its rates with one of the american brand hotels in town.

About Plaza del Arco, I also appreciated its close location to that OXXO convenience store (cerveza and my new addiction to refresco Joya sabor Manzana) and the Gigante store on Avenida Colòn (hard liquor, condoms and more are available there by the way). If you want to shop brand new clothes, the stores in front of the bus depot have pretty good prices. T-shirts at 30 pesos, jeans at 90 pesos... I didn't expected to buy clothes, but it worthes a look for sure at these prices! So, it was about it for that time. I have regular street girls pictures, but I am not sure that it is recommended to post them here.

Hell Minnesotah!!!
No one goes to the Obsession or any other five star club at night to get FS!!!
NO-ONE... and now you know why.
For what you paid, you could have had 2 girls from the Matehuala or Infinito in you room for 2 hours.
Or in a drastic way, 20 F/S at these places!!!!

MonterreyDude

03-05-06, 19:23

Yes, you are right.
You did get the flow of the clubs... congratulations.
You are now a Monterrey monger!

And the pictures... I guess you can place them in the section picture forum, with my solitary picture of the Obsesions men Club....

Let me confirm you than I didn't and I won't pay US$ 240 for a chica mexicana as beautiful as she could be (and who hell know how they came be beautiful). My only expenses at Obsessions was a few drinks for my novia (that I don't even really recall her name) and myself, then four very hot lap dances. She was really in the mood. :) So, it was good time, but I didn't wanted to spent much there. If I went there on the Sunday night, because I didn't explored enough yet to find out the clubs off Madero and I needed to pratice my spanish skills more actively to be ready for the next days. It is really funny to practice your language skills when you drank your cerveza with a top model sitting on both of your leg. :)

So, on the next night, I finally found that awesome Calle Julian Villagante Norte. It starts right in front of the bus depot, but after passing Avenida Madero, it is THE fishing pond where most of the clubs are located and they're also a few dirt cheap hairdressers (N$30) around there, if interested. There's a club with a small black glass door right next to door number 930 called D Libra. 120 pesos + 10 extra for their condom. They only speak spanish, but this is a good reason to learn that language. The walls are a "little dirty", but the chicas are good looking. The service is quite mechanical, but who cares at USD 13.00! It is almost free of charge! I wanted to have them posed for me, but they're quite camera-shy. Monday night, I have meet a moranita named Darla and the next morning another morona named Roxana. That chica have curly hair to her shoulders and was wearing a clear babydoll. Not fat, not skinny, but her belly skin seems a little stretched. It was not like something else! Darla was physically quite similar to Roxana.

When I left MTY, the bus went down Madero and I saw Harem. Since now I know where it is, I will be good to drop by there next time. It is not close to the other clubs.

My hotel was Plaza del Arco as recommended on this forum. One of their receptionnist is a 12/10 in my book. Her head and body are perfect! Never saw someone good looking as her. That hotel is nice, clean and really well located (a block from the bus depot and Metrorey, plus 4 or 5 blocks from Calle Julian Villagrante Norte), but a little expensive to my mexican expectations. Also, a turn-off was its lack of fridge in the room. They're repainting their exterior walls white. I was on the Piso 4 (top floor) and I went back to my room once during the monday afternoon, I saw the roof seemed to push down, because some worker have walked on top of it. Maybe next time I might compare it and its rates with one of the american brand hotels in town.

About Plaza del Arco, I also appreciated its close location to that OXXO convenience store (cerveza and my new addiction to refresco Joya sabor Manzana) and the Gigante store on Avenida Colòn (hard liquor, condoms and more are available there by the way). If you want to shop brand new clothes, the stores in front of the bus depot have pretty good prices. T-shirts at 30 pesos, jeans at 90 pesos... I didn't expected to buy clothes, but it worthes a look for sure at these prices! So, it was about it for that time. I have regular street girls pictures, but I am not sure that it is recommended to post them here.

Porker

03-06-06, 02:46

Minnesotah: I'm glad you had a good time at D'Libra at 930 Villagran, but actually that's one of the lowest quality places in Monterrey. It's a double waste because Hooters/Signore is only two block away on Villagomez. Buy the afternoon Sol newspaper and take advantage of Carlos' maps (might need to PM him to get a copy) and you will be all set as finding several other better massage places.

BTW, everyone, Hot Service, 1031 Arteaga is no longer a massage place, but rather some kind of legitimate business. Too bad, as they were some of the good guys.

Minnesotah

03-06-06, 03:41

I saw the others clubs, but I didn't have the opportunity to visit them since I started by DLibra. I should have more time in MTY to explore the scene more deeply, but I still consider myself to be lucky to have that unexpected monday stayover since I was supposed to be in town from Sunday to Monday afternoon. At least, it makes no doubt that the MTY scene is really more interesting to explore rather than the bordertowns' one.

MonterreyDude

03-06-06, 09:16

I disagree most of the time with Porker (not anymore after his adventure at the Prestige) but he is right.
Next time, do not miss the Signone MP... he is right. It's one of the best at the 150 pesos margin.

I saw the others clubs, but I didn't have the opportunity to visit them since I started by DLibra. I should have more time in MTY to explore the scene more deeply, but I still consider myself to be lucky to have that unexpected monday stayover since I was supposed to be in town from Sunday to Monday afternoon. At least, it makes no doubt that the MTY scene is really more interesting to explore rather than the bordertowns' one.

Lion Killer

03-07-06, 00:31

Carlos,

I gotta get by there next time I am in town. Do you feel there is a better choice in women on the time you go. Noon to six or six to midnight. When is shift change there. Or is it just hit and miss?

Any way, I will be there sometime after mid April to mid May. See you then my friend.

LK

MonterreyDude

03-07-06, 02:19

As you say: It's more hit and miss...

Carlos,

I gotta get by there next time I am in town. Do you feel there is a better choice in women on the time you go. Noon to six or six to midnight. When is shift change there. Or is it just hit and miss?

Any way, I will be there sometime after mid April to mid May. See you then my friend.

LK

Neo35

03-14-06, 01:27

Hi, this is my first report in this forum and i apologize for my written english. I am from Monterrey and i didnt find any review to the Romanos MP (Tapia 862 esq Arista)

Katty (25?): Its also the MP "encargada", its cute but her service is very standard, mechanical and i dont recommend her. Like the others, 30 min for $40 dlls, and $30 dlls extras for oral and full nudity. This was my first Romanos girl and i didnt get the $70 dlls value i was expecting. The only reason i come back is because of a petite girl that cought my attention when i was leaving. - Note: she just have degraded to regular girl, the new "encargada" is a fat lady named Paola

Lissette (21): A very petite girl (with an innocent smile but with ugly teeth), same price but very different expirience. She is very sweet and give you a GFE "light" expirience. Little kisses and sweet talking. She looks you in the eye. Its not very common that kind of experience in an MP, i was a little sorprised an happy with the service. I recommend her.

Paula (19): I want to be another time with Lissette, i call her to make shure she was working that day. I arrive 20 minutes later and she was busy. I was about to leave but they offer me Paula. Paula is not a beauty (its not ugly either) , neither Lissette, but they have a fresh and innocent look.

In this moment i discover that what i lived with Lissette is some kind of training, becouse Paula did the same in her own style. She didnt talk, she didnt look in the eye, but she give you little kisses and make you feel good. Her body is so firm, like a rock. A very good experience, I recommend her.

I dont think this place have a Hardcore expirience or services like the signore MP or the more expensive Lebaron. THis girls are not professionals, they are too young, lissette have 2 months and Paula 4 months experience. Its another kind of experience.

In the future i hope i can write about Vivid, the Lebaron, and the Signore.

** Note: I just find out is better to pay the full price of $80 dollars($10 dollars more), because you have a full hour and you dont have to negociate any extras the other way you pay $70 and just have half an hour.

see ya

Neo35

Hawg Dawggie

03-16-06, 01:52

Stopped by the Status MP at 837 Padre Mier Pte (about 50m from Hidalgo and directly across from Casa de Pancho Villa).

Line-up arrangement. Lots of 5 & 6s. A couple looked like they could be 7 if you turned the lights down low enough and drank enough. Went with Danielle, mostly because she was sporting an obviously impressive rack and didn't seem to be otherwise carrying too much excess baggage.

200 pesos for a basic cbj --- lots of noise, obviously fake though (sheesh, you'd think this was a JOB or something!) She got up on top and rode the iron horse to town. More fake panting and painfully mechanical action.

Still, what do you expect for 200 pesos. CBJ and a pop with a 23-year old with a fairly clean and decent body with better than average tits. Best $20 I spent all day.

Hawg

Neo35

03-21-06, 16:08

Three MP with no reports are Vivid, Reducline and Faraonas II. This is my report.

Vivid (Vivid.com.mx)

A $40 dlls, 30 min option for the exigent ones. The girls are much better than the low end MP. I enter with Tania (http://www.vivid.com.mx/index_files/Page788.htm)

She is 20 years old white girl. The service is pretty mechanical, like signore, but not hardcore.

Reducline (www.reducline.com)

This place is very paranoic and they hide their services on the website and on the telephone. A very classy MP, very different to the rest. Very good massage, very pretty girls (around 30 year old, but pretty)

I enter with Tania for a massage ($30) (i dont ask her age, but I think she is around 28 - 29 years old). Very good massage. When she finished she offer me nudity ($20 dlls), oral ($40 dlls), or sex ($80 dlls). I dont have money and I pass.

If you are rich and have 110 dlls to burn, this is the place for you, is different, good quality girls. I dont know the quality of the service, but i certenly want to f*** her.

Faraonas II (www.las-faraonas.com)

I read in directoriovip.com forum that this place have a very hot Chica named Heidy (21 year old). This place is so cheap ($16) that i really couldnt believe that report. But IT WAS TRUE, TOTALLY TRUE, this girl is hot. She should be in Romanos, Vivid or even Misses. This girl is the only girl that offers a full GFE, with deep kissing, hugs, and a very sweet talk. I still cant believe she is in a low end MP. I feel bad for her and recommend her the other places (bad for us, but good for her), but she said she wants to stay there (maybe the owners girlfriend?)

She is bisexual and if she likes you probably accept to go to your hotel for a full day, and the bisexual thing opens really good possibilities.

Her service is sweet, nothing hardcore.

Regards,

Neo

Neo35

03-23-06, 16:37

I have only a few places more to report. The information of all my repots is fresh (tree to six weeks maximum), and i dont think i will have more reports from Monterrey soon. I plan to make a trip to Mexico in the next weeks to experiment with some more Divas, but the information of the trip will be post elsewhere (in the Mexico City forum)

LeBaron

Well, i think all of you know this MP, it was a classic and today still exists. Now is $50, the chicas are prefessionals in their 30´s. I dont like the professional type, my thing is in the 18 to 21 range, the more newer in the business the better.

Well, to beguin with, i dont remember the name of the chica, it was maybe a 7 (when undressed i notice the loose skin in her belly) they have the same routine that i remember 10 years ago. Massage, and offer the classical extras of LeBaron (all body kissing and others), this extras are to expensive to my taste so i ask for anal. She attempt to charge $100 dlls for this service arguing it was almost her first time (ja!). I offer $50 and we make a deal. Well, for a virgin, she just insert it quickly with no lubricant what so ever. Like i said, this girls are very experienced professional.

Signore (another report!)

Well, Signore is kind of a popular place in this forum. I want to follow your reports and i have an "interesting" experience. I select a young skinny morena girl. I just dont remember her name (or i dont want to, i dont know) I think it should be around 21 to 23 years old. It was very shy, totally innexpresive. Is not common that a shy, inexperienced girl accept to do anal, but this one accepted for the $50. Well, it was not a good experience, it was so tight that i have a very difficult time to enter. I was worry that she was in pain, but she does not say anything. When i finish she just get up and get out, not a word. I never see her again, even at the exit. What happen?, i dont know, i think she just need the money but she dont have the experience ... well i am really sorry for her.

When i have new material i will post it. It seems that for a few weeks almost nobody post anything, whats happening?

regards
Neo

Strike 69

03-27-06, 03:04

Hi,

I'm new to the MTY scene and I would like to ask about the Regias (MTY girls) attitude. I'm interested in knowing some info regarding non pros and also if you know any website in MTY with hot working girls, any info regarding non pros and outcalls are very much appreciated.

Thanks.

Neo35

03-27-06, 16:02

Well, for the working girl links, thera are a few:

www.tomuchmodel.com.mx
www.bomboncitasregias.com
www.vivid.com.mx
www.regioscorts.com
www.goldengirls.com.mx

I heard good things about tomuchmodel and bomboncitasregias, bad things about regioscorts. The cost vary from $150 to $220

There is a beauty named jessy www.fotolog.com/barbieporsiempre but she went nuts and now is charging $400 dlls (a few months ago charged $200), i guess she will be forced to lower her price soon because is out of proportion. You can compare it with the top escorts in Mexico (www.divas.com.mx) and the top ten of the list charge $250, and i am talking about the best of the best.

If you like beutifull young girls (18 - 21) there is a place www.misses.com.mx that charge $150 to $200, the only problem is that you have to take the service in their installations and i dont like that kind of experience for that kind of money, i wish i have one of them in my hotel room.

And remember, Monterrey is a MP city. Most of the working girl activity is centered in this kind of places, thats why taking a girl to your room is so expensive compared to Mexico City, there are just a few good level escorts (and you cant find any Divas here because this beautys are from Argentina and Brazil mostly, and they get arrested for working with out a permit in this city) . And if you are planning to take a girl to your room, please dont use the newspaper, this girls are cheaper, but the quality is as bad as you can imagine.

Thats all the information i have ...

Regards,

Neo

Strike 69

04-02-06, 01:35

Thanks for the information very much appreciated.

Too bad you cannot get a divas in Monterrey those girls looks really hot maybe in the future that will change, who knows?

About Barbie the girl who is f**king nuts (for less than 400 USD you can fuck a pornstar hot as hell in Canada see those links if you don't believe me;
http://www.clubnikiv.com/miniSite/main.php and http://www.escorts-canada.com/cgi-bin/ad?id=4645) she seems to be a college girl who loves easy money, so my question is: it is possible to find more college girls like her that will do anything (in this case work as escorts) for easy money? Maybe in the underground scene there, or do you need somekind of speacial contacts to reach them?

Please let me know if you know any information or any rumor about more hot college girls working as escorts in Monterrey. Barbie seems a very good meal hehehe but she is nuts if she is asking that much money for her ass.

Thank you again

Member #3453

04-02-06, 05:49

Porker and I had visited TVO in Monterrey several months ago, and we were absolutely astounded at the continuous line-up of real beauties that were paraded before us one Friday night last November, one stunner after another.

Well, I had been meaning to return to TVO again since that night, just to see if what we had experienced was a fluke. So, last Friday night, I had the opportunity to revisit, and was not impressed what-so-ever.

Most of the girls I saw on the line-up were just average, or below average. I have no idea what happened to all the superstars.

It was also really interesting too because I noticed there was a girl that was on stage during the line-up that was suggestively dressed, but fully clothed. She was hanging really close to another girl, a girl that was obviously a professional stripper, a girl that was hanging out in all the right places, obviously with very little modesty. The modest girl was, in fact, the best looking girl in the place, even with her clothes on.

But, I noticed that the girl that was fully clothed and suggestively dressed was modestly playing at unzipping her dress. She would start to unzip it, then before going too far, she would zip it right back up. Then, she would pull up her outfit slightly above her ass cheeks, in a slow and cautious way, almost in a contemplative and reluctant manner. Her behavior was so uncharacteristic to what I am used to seeing in the strip clubs of MTY, that I concluded that she must be a complete and total newbie. Once I determined that she must be a newbie, I watched with even more determination and curiousity.

Anyway, during the line-up, she flirted with exposing her breasts, and pealing off her outfit. But, she never actually did it. Instead, she remained fully clothed during the entire line-up period, staying very close to her experienced companion the entire time. Of course, the other girls were all in various states of undress, some of them completely nude, and some of them hanging out in the most suggestive and enticing ways they could imagine.

Eventually, after the line-up concluded, the girl came on stage alone. She started to dance around the pole in an unfamiliar manner, obviously testing her ability to negotiate the pole, and playing with some dance moves, deciding what might look suggestive and sexy. She was obviously very uncomfortable, unfamiliar with the proper moves. To a seasoned officianado like myself, I had by then concluded that she was most certainly a complete and utter newbie stripper.

Eventually, my suspicions were confirmed. All of a sudden, prior to removing a stitch of clothing, she bounded off stage, made a B-line for the dressing room, and immeidately slipped on her blue jeans. She was obviously un-nerved, and talking to one or two of the other girls that were still getting ready at the makeup table. I can only imagine that she was saying how she was just not cut out for being a stripper. Once she had her jeans on, she was quickly out the door, never to be seen again.

So, I suppose we should all appreciate the obvious difficulties that some girls must go through to eventually become so proficient at entertaining us. For some, it must be harder than for others. But, after seeing that little display, I had a new found appreciation for the girls that can pull it off, and make everything seem so effortless. Thank God for them!!!

MonterreyDude

04-02-06, 06:32

Neo, I don't want to contradict you, but escorts services in Monterrey more or less suck. Quality is so unstable... the girls on the site are never the same. No escort service guarantees quality... and the girls are so amature, si snotty, so "I give a hoot about you" or so dumb that paying them even 100 dlls is highway robbery.
I never recomend escort services... not even the ones that high class hotel bellboys pimp to their customers. No sir!
And Monterrey being an MP city... yes. But 90% of the MP's are of low stature, 3rd class instalations and girls that are in average, 6's.
The only places that are more or less fit to be called "good" are Misses, Horoscope, and 3 more I don't recall the names.
You are correct in quoting prices for Misses, and I agree with your opinion. Too much money for an in-call.
Average price to get a good girl at a good MP, if the girl fits a 9, would be in average 120 dlls.
Guys, you have to understand that Monterrey is a BIG city, who's high class society boasts many similarities with the USA. Our pride and vanity has made of Monterrey an expensive one.
Hotels are expensive (we have a Hampton Inn that charges 95 dlls a night for a regular room), restaurants are expensive... escorts are expensive.
We do not have the monstrous size of Mexico City, one that offers so much variety in sizes and prices.
But strip clubs... there we are fortunate to have tons of options. Cheap to expensive...
Many have been here, and have experimented that.

Well, for the working girl links, thera are a few:

www.tomuchmodel.com.mx
www.bomboncitasregias.com
www.vivid.com.mx
www.regioscorts.com
www.goldengirls.com.mx

I heard good things about tomuchmodel and bomboncitasregias, bad things about regioscorts. The cost vary from $150 to $220

There is a beauty named jessy www.fotolog.com/barbieporsiempre but she went nuts and now is charging $400 dlls (a few months ago charged $200), i guess she will be forced to lower her price soon because is out of proportion. You can compare it with the top escorts in Mexico (www.divas.com.mx) and the top ten of the list charge $250, and i am talking about the best of the best.

If you like beutifull young girls (18 - 21) there is a place www.misses.com.mx that charge $150 to $200, the only problem is that you have to take the service in their installations and i dont like that kind of experience for that kind of money, i wish i have one of them in my hotel room.

And remember, Monterrey is a MP city. Most of the working girl activity is centered in this kind of places, thats why taking a girl to your room is so expensive compared to Mexico City, there are just a few good level escorts (and you cant find any Divas here because this beautys are from Argentina and Brazil mostly, and they get arrested for working with out a permit in this city) . And if you are planning to take a girl to your room, please dont use the newspaper, this girls are cheaper, but the quality is as bad as you can imagine.

Thats all the information i have ...

Regards,

Neo

Johnynights

04-02-06, 08:20

Hey Everybody,

First of all, congratulations everybody on creating possibly the best sex service forum I have ever seen for Monterrey. It really gives vital information for everyone interested in tasting the sweet juices of the city.

Now guys, I just want to bother you a little. I am looking forward to visit son MP's in May. Could some of you please provide some valuable info?:

- TOP 3 MP'S.
- GIRLS YOU RECOMMEND IN EACH MP.
- TIME OF DAY YOU RECOMMEND GOING.
- AVERAGE RATE.

I know you have some postings in previous months/years but I would really appreciate some fresh information and hey... it won't hurt the rest of us?

Thanks a lot guys,

Johny

MonterreyDude

04-02-06, 21:45

Top 3 would be Misses, Versace and third one I don't recall.
Johnny, one thing: prices are too high (200 dlls Misses... Versace 100 dlls up) to be considered worth spending money there.
Top 5 girls: Impossible. by the time you get here in May the girls will be gone.

Monterrey IS famous for MPs but not in the sense that ALL are good and there are so many in Monterrey that it is impossible to mention them here. But those MPs are well into low 2nd class 3rd class type places with girls that have 6s or 7s working.

To get an idea, check

www.signore.com.mx

That is an average kind of MP. And Signore is a highend 2nd class MP. Check the girl's pictures. Half are young, half are old and none of them with bodies to die for.
That is what prevails here in Mty.
The World famous Porker that posts here also has it down to a few simple words: MPs in Monterrey are "hit and miss". You have to check them all and next time you come back, it's starting from scratch.

Hey Everybody,

First of all, congratulations everybody on creating possibly the best sex service forum I have ever seen for Monterrey. It really gives vital information for everyone interested in tasting the sweet juices of the city.

Now guys, I just want to bother you a little. I am looking forward to visit son MP's in May. Could some of you please provide some valuable info?:

- TOP 3 MP'S.
- GIRLS YOU RECOMMEND IN EACH MP.
- TIME OF DAY YOU RECOMMEND GOING.
- AVERAGE RATE.

I know you have some postings in previous months/years but I would really appreciate some fresh information and hey... it won't hurt the rest of us?

Thanks a lot guys,

Johny

Doubt98

04-03-06, 02:05

I was in Monterrey a couple of weeks ago and have to say that I stuck my head in to a couple of mp's and was not impressed. Signore had some of the women from the website there and the internet actually makes them look better. The price is reasonable though. So, to each his own and good luck. I went into 8 or 9 strip clubs and that is where you should spend your time. The best has model material and even the lower end ones usually have at least one 8.

MonterreyDude

04-03-06, 17:43

What Doubt says is true.
Doubt has been to the Matehuala and, I think, the Infinito too.
Considering that the Infinito strip club class is located in the invisible line of good and lower type clubs, it has incredible looking girls in the lineup.

I was in Monterrey a couple of weeks ago and have to say that I stuck my head in to a couple of mp's and was not impressed. Signore had some of the women from the website there and the internet actually makes them look better. The price is reasonable though. So, to each his own and good luck. I went into 8 or 9 strip clubs and that is where you should spend your time. The best has model material and even the lower end ones usually have at least one 8.

Johnynights

04-03-06, 19:37

So your recommendation would be to go to strip clubs?

Just a question: Does any of your recommended ones open early? (4-5pm?) I remember reading in one of the reports that full service should be no more than 200 pesos. Can you clarify this? Can I get full service early on the day?

Thanks for your advise so far guys.

Johny

Doubt98

04-03-06, 23:11

I have been to the Infinito and others. I like the Matehuala but couldn't tell you why. It is definetly "blue collar" but it's loud, fun, and usually has a few good ones to choose from. Infinito and others have a line up that is stunning to say the least but as usual, it costs. FS can be had for 200p. I've been charged 300p and paid it because I don't speak enough Spanish to argue. A girl offered to leave with me for 120US, $40 to the house and $80 for her. Should have taken it, and am kicking myself over it now.

MonterreyDude

04-03-06, 23:45

Of course there are SC that open early.
Matehuala, Infinito, Givenchy and el Cielo (same family) open at 2 pm. Of course depending on the day of the week, the core of the girls arrive till 4-5 PM.
And yes, you can get a FS for 200, MAYBE you'll meet a girl that charges 300 TOPS (the night girls charge this) plus what they charge you for the dances (50 pesos every 4 minutes).
Thing is that at the mentioned clubs, the booths in the area where you'll do the wild thing are not closed, so everyone there sees everything through black light.
Wierd but a very intresting experience.
You need to see it to understand it.

So your recommendation would be to go to strip clubs?

Just a question: Does any of your recommended ones open early? (4-5pm?) I remember reading in one of the reports that full service should be no more than 200 pesos. Can you clarify this? Can I get full service early on the day?

Thanks for your advise so far guys.

Johny

Member #3453

04-04-06, 04:47

El Infinito is typically very strict with respect with the bar fine amount. The absolute rule of thumb seems to be 350 pesos for the bar, and 1000 pesos for the girl, a total of 1350 pesos. I have never, ever, had them deviate from that price structure. And, one other thing I do not like about El Infinito is that they collect the full amount upfront, before you leave the premises. So, you have little recourse if you're disatisfied with the session.

There are other clubs such as Givenchi and El Cielo where I have on occassion paid just the bar fine of 350 pesos, and then settled up with the girl later on. El Cielo is run consistently that way, and Givenchi is hit and miss with respect to paying up-front. I prefer to pay them only the bar fine up-front because it provides an added incentive for a new girl to perform well.

I don't mean to contradict Doubt98's report, and with all due respect to your girl's offer to accep only 800 pesos, it wasn't clear to me if you were referring to Matehuela or El Infinito with respect to the bargain offered. With respect to Matehuela, the normal bar fine is actually 350 pesos, and the girl usually gets 1150 pesos, a total of 1500 pesos. But, I have less experience bar fining from Matehuela, and I'm not sure about whether the fee is negotiable with management. If you could have gotten out of Matehuela for only 800 pesos plus the bar fine, that would have been quite a bargain.

If a girl from El Infinito made a statement that she will accept less than the price established by the bar, then I suspect she was baiting you, or there was a miscommunication of some kind. I have bar fined quite a number of girls from El Infinito, and tried to negotiate the fee on several occassions, but have never had a discount off of the 1350 pesos price. So, if you were able to get away with only paying 800 pesos to the girl in El Infinito, then you would have been quite lucky in pulling it off.

I'm not saying it isn't possible, but I've been made promises by some of the girls before, in the privados, only to find out that they were mistaken or playing me. When it came time to actually pay-up with the manager, the terms of the agreement were always quoted to me at 1350 pesos, no deviation, even when a girl has sometimes attempted to intervene with respect to her cut of the fee.

In some of the other clubs, such as Givenchi and El Cielo, I've been able to get some price considerations, but never at El Infinito. However, I've been able to get more than the 1-1/2 hour time limit that is routinely quoted by the girls. On numerous occassions, I've received significantly more time when I've asked for it. In that respect, the girls seem to have some influence with the manager. But, there are also times when I have asked for it, and management has firmed denied my taking more than about 2 hours at the most. Depending on the girl, there have also been times when promises were made, and when the deed was done, the girls were out the door, sometimes short changing me, even on the 1-1/2 hour agreement. Again, there is no recourse when you pay up front.

I believe if the girl is pulling a double shift, and/or has come in on a day off, and/or has come in at an unscheduled time, and/or is screwing the manager, and/or is teacher's pet...whatever...she must apparently have the option of leaving for as long as she is willing to give. I have some favorite girls that give me the alotted amount of time consistently, and some that actually apparently like spending more time with me, signfificantly more time, and those are the gems.

But, usually, even if they love you to death, they will not stay with you past 4:50am on weekend nights, and 3:50am on weekday nights, because they have to return to the club by 4am or 5am respectively to pick up their earnings for the night, which is something they will "NEVER-EVER" miss come hell or high water. I have had a number of instances where the girl would have simply preferred to sleep in, and to remain with me, but she dragged herself out of a deep slumber so she could report back to the bar to collect her pay.

The managers at El Infinito and Givenchi are also quite strict about you producing valid identification before they will let girls leave with you. The managers have always been very insistent with me on getting that information documented before they ever permited us to leave the club together. They actually seem to maintain a record of the transaction in a book, so if anybody is worried about divulging their true identity to them, then you'll need to consider other options. Perhaps the documentation is a way that club owners discourage skimming on bar fines, but they seem to be very meticulous about maintaining their records concerning bar fines.

I have bar fined many girls from El Infinito, and due to my repeated visits, I know the managers quite well. But, even now, knowing me as they do, they always insist on my producing identification. I usually produce my visa certificate, the one I get from Mexican Customs when I arrive at the airport. This document has my name, and it refers to where I am staying, but offers them little else. It also seems to be sufficiently "valid" to qualify as proper identification.

Johnynights

04-04-06, 06:25

Hey Carlos,

Thanks a lot for your advise. I was a little upset when I learned the real rates since I tried FS a couple of times at SC's a year ago and the prize for the bar was never below 400 pesos, and that was just for the bar. Plus the girl, who, as I remember would charge me 350 pesos (and not being quite the looks). Obviously, I was going to get ripped off, fortunately I never did it.

However, I think I'm going to try it during my visit. The fact the I can find the good girls around 5pm is good for me, since my nights are booked with business commitments. I understand your point on it being quite an experience since I did have a couple of blowjobs in the same conditions. I'll let you know how it was.

In the meantime, here's a little something for the club. I was a very good customer of Vivid some time ago and I have to say they had really good facilities. I can't talk about the girls because the girl I used to go with is gone. That's why I was asking for suggestions, but I guess you are right. I'll have to do some search while there. If anyone can recommend a girl from Vivid, I would really appreciate it.

Have a good one guys,

Johny

Doubt98

04-04-06, 13:48

My mistake. The El Infinito was not where I was quoted the price. I re-read my post and that is what it implies, sorry. I don't even remember the bars name. I was walking down the street, the gentleman out front tells me to come in, so I did. Why would he steer me wrong. They sat this girl in my lap and we hit it off, or so she led me to believe we did. The girl was the best looking one in there in my opinion. Through our language barrier that was the price I believe she asked and she wouldn't come off of it. Still, I should have paid it. I think that she probably would have been fun, but you never know till you pay.

Member #3453

04-04-06, 19:19

Doubt98,

Generally, the very popular bars such as El Infinito & Givenchi, do not have hawkers that solicit you on the street. Those bars are so busy that they rarely if ever solicit clients off the street. So, you must have been in one of those bars along the same street as El Infinito because Matuehuela sits alone by itself North of Madero, between Madero and Colon, and there aren't any bars to my knowledge up that direction that have hawkers on the street.

It is entirely believable that you would have been offered a special price if you were in one of the low end bars along that gauntlet where El Infinito is located. They usually have a very poor selection of girls in the low end bars, but there is sometimes an angel among the swine.

I remember visiting La Cava one time and most of the girls were not at all to my liking. But, there was one girl that was gorgeous, an 8-9, a hard bodied flaca morena with a sexy pretty face. Needless to say, she was the Queen Bee of La Cava, and was continually occupied.

MonterreyDude

04-04-06, 19:38

It could have been the Parthenon...

Doubt98,

Generally, the very popular bars such as El Infinito & Givenchi, do not have hawkers that solicit you on the street. Those bars are so busy that they rarely if ever solicit clients off the street. So, you must have been in one of those bars along the same street as El Infinito because Matuehuela sits alone by itself North of Madero, between Madero and Colon, and there aren't any bars to my knowledge up that direction that have hawkers on the street.

It is entirely believable that you would have been offered a special price if you were in one of the low end bars along that gauntlet where El Infinito is located. They usually have a very poor selection of girls in the low end bars, but there is sometimes an angel among the swine.

I remember visiting La Cava one time and most of the girls were not at all to my liking. But, there was one girl that was gorgeous, an 8-9, a hard bodied flaca morena with a sexy pretty face. Needless to say, she was the Queen Bee of La Cava, and was continually occupied.

Member #3453

04-04-06, 22:15

Carlos,

Yeah, there are also those two small bars on the same side of the street North of El Infinito, but I don't remember their names. One is on the corner, and the other is relatively new I believe. Those and Parthenon are the only three that openly solicit clientes from the street, right?

By the way, Marcella (from our initial Harem days) no longer works at El Cielo, and I saw her outside that dive on the corner North of El Infinito. She was as high as a kite. She told me she is working at Tangalay now. She acknowledged me standing there, begged for money for comida, and when I told I didn't have any, she just shook her head and crossed the street walking toward Tangalay to go to work. She is a complete dope head now.

It is definitely a shame to see what once was an attractive relatively "clean" girl end up so screwed up. The last couple of times I've seen her she exhibited all the obvious signs of a nervous hyped strung out dope head.
Que Lastima.

Lion Killer

04-04-06, 23:01

It has been best for me to not negotiate with the bar manager but directly with the girl. I keep the bar manager out of the picture by offering the girl 1,000 peso for 2 hours in my hotel room after her shift ends (11:00 PM).

I just have her meet me outside with a waiting cab, we hit the store, grab some beer and snacks and off we go.

I spent New Years that way with an 18 year old, big tittied, hottie from Infinito. The bar closed early around 10:00 I think. We got our provisions and went to my room. The action started at 11:00 PM (I popped a 100 mg Viagra an hour before, I already had a chica earlier that day). I fucked her for a solid hour, we heard the fireworks, I stopped, kissed her Happy New Year, and fucked her for another 45 minutes cumming like a mule.

Time was up. You are right on one thing, when 2 hours was up as negotiated, she was out of the bed and getting dressed right on time. But she did stick to her time frame letting me fuck her the whole time, and that was nice. Bless MTY!!!

LK

Regio Guero

04-05-06, 01:50

Porker

04-05-06, 02:53

Spongebob, I never knew that about showing your ID when you barfine a girl at the Infinito group clubs. Interesting.

Lionkiller, it's great when you can make cheaper arrangements for the girl to meet you after her shift. The problem is that Mexican bar girls flake more often than not, leaving you waiting around with your dick in your hand. For some people (I'm almost NEVER one of them), paying the 350 bar fee is worth it, as it at least ensures that the girl will leave with you and at the time you specify, not her.

Member #3453

04-05-06, 13:15

If negotiation directly with the bar girls is working then that is great! But for me...

I've concluded that, more often than not, your time is wasted beyond whatever savings you might realize. I've attempted to meet some of the girls after hours on more occassions that I care to remember, and the arrangements generally fall through.

After many attempts to circumvent the system, I have finally become convinced that time IS money, and the money I might save isn't really worth the potential disappointment.

What you can ALWAYS be sure of is that bar girls will say anything to keep you in the privados or buying them drinks (ie: puking pesos). It's just too difficult to determine which of them are going to show up, and which of them are simply baiting you.

I do know one thing, 101% of them will lead you on to keep you on the hook in the privados, buying jarras, fecha drinks, cigarettes, etc, etc, etc...My experience is that the average success rate meeting them outside the clubs, at least in Monterrey, is probably somewhere around the low 20% range or maybe even worse.

I suspect LK possesses a charm and pursuasiveness that surpasses my own abilities to ensure their compliance with any deals made in the privados. I would need a serious measure of luck to consistently benefit successfully from direct negotiation with the girls.

What seems to work more effectively for me is to get the girl to go for 700-800 pesos versus the 1000-1200 peso fee, and pay the salida fee to the bar in order to get her according to my timing requirements. But, you can only do that in certain bars where they permit you to pay the girl her cut directly. Ufortunately, El Infinito is not one of them. But, there are several others that will allow this.

And, of course, by driving down her price, you may be directly effecting the quality of your session. So, these days, unless the challenge of getting a bargain is more interesting to me than the quality of my session, which for some unknown reason sometimes happens, I generally just pay the freight.

Lion Killer

04-05-06, 23:16

I could not agree with you more Porker, there are flakes in USA, Mexico, Central America, South America, Asia and the rest of the world. I have been to most of them. To me its the thrill of the hunt and the comfort of getting the best deal you can. I also never pay the bar fine. Well maybe in the Philippines once (its $10.00 there).

But one thing I found very convincing is waving the provincial $100.00 dollar bill in front of there nose at 10:55 PM, 5 minutes before their shift is over. So far it seems to have worked for me.

Also I stress doing it at the 11:00 PM shift change. If for some reason they do not show up, your only out 15 minutes. You can turn around, walk back in the club and find your next prey. Just my opinion. Thanks.

LK

Lion Killer

04-05-06, 23:48

You and Porker are infamous there. Carlos speaks of you highly. Just lending my 2 cents to the board and what works for me.

I never stay in prividos with the girl, I may have one or two, to decide if she is even worth taking home. I usually buy them a couple of drinks, so there is no bating going on.

I am by no means Mr Sav Wa Fair and do not posses the charm and talent to hypnotise the girls into leaving with me (lets not be a smart ass now spounge). My average sucess rate is about 90%.

What works for you, works for you. What works for me works for me. I am in disagreement in driving down the price. But this is America the land of the free and we can agree to disagree thank God.

The giving up of prices and giving the girls more is a problem that happend in Costa Rica a few years ago. In 2003 the average cost of 2 hours in your hotel room was $50.00. The Asian's came in and would pay $100.00 for the same 2 hours. Now all the girl's in the club's are asking $100.00. Its happening in Asia also. So I am a firm believer in keeping the prices down.

What's Jam for you may be Jelly for me. Keep up the reports.

LK

Member #3453

04-06-06, 02:27

LK,

No "smart ass-ed-ness" intended (is that a word? :-). I can't deny success because your methods are working for you. I enjoy your comments and there are as many ways to success as there are mongers out there. Actually, it sounds like we are probably quite similiar in our interviewing process. I also usually take them up for one or two privados to ascertain whether they might be any good or not.

No, what I was actually referring to with respect to them baiting us is my own past experiences where the girls extracted far too much money from me than what I would find acceptable at this stage of my development. I am significantly more seasoned than I was several years ago, and now I can see through their little games. My comments were more intended for those that may venture down to Monterrey for the first time, or on an infrequent basis.

But, I must reiterate that, even after having significant experience in MTY, my success record at getting them to meet with me on their off time is so statistically discouraging, that I have all but given up on the idea. I wish it were not true, but that trend consistently prevails.

With respect to the amount we should pay, I agree that it's better for mongerdom everywhere to be reasonably frugal. But, I still sometimes find myself being slightly generous, only with an occassional special girl, and only when her performance warrants it.

Lion Killer

04-06-06, 22:42

Uno,

I appreciate your comments and posts. One day I look forward to meeting up with you and Porker in one of the favorite hunnie holes. First round is on me. Keep up the mongering its our duty to the rest of the board.

LK

Lion Killer

04-27-06, 02:06

Wow,

Has Continental Airlines gone crazy? The usual cost from IAH to MTY was $180 USD. Now its $352.00. Oh well, guess Carlos my friend, it may be awhile till I visit your great city again.

Just my opinion.

LK

MonterreyDude

04-27-06, 02:19

My friend, have you checked Aviacsa at www.aviacsa.com???

I think they are quoting at 220 dlls.

Wow,

Has Continental Airlines gone crazy? The usual cost from IAH to MTY was $180 USD. Now its $352.00. Oh well, guess Carlos my friend, it may be awhile till I visit your great city again.

Just my opinion.

LK

Lion Killer

04-27-06, 23:08

Carlos,

I guess I will have to start checking Aviacsa. I usually try and stay with my frequent flyer partners (Aviacsa is not one of them) but with the cost of fuel so high I just might have to jump ship (from Continental) and fly Aviacsa. Thanks Carlos.

LK

Lion Killer

04-28-06, 02:58

Carlos,

I just checked Aviacsa Airline's price. From Houston, TX to Monterrey, MX is $416.00. They are $50.00 higher than Continental. Wow, the gas prices are making it hard on us mongers. Just have to hang on till it gets better.

I am going to Roatan, Honduras in late May for a scuba/muff dive trip for 9 days there. If the flight prices get better after then, I will see you in Monterrey. Till then take care my friend.

LK

Member #3453

04-29-06, 03:19

LK, you had me worried, so I just checked the airfares from my city in the Midwest. The fare is exactly the same as usual, $478 RT. The fare into IAH from my home city is $278, which sounds about right.

I don't understand why the costs are higher than usual from IAH to MTY, but the prices have not changed for me whatsoever. It sounds like Continental is trying to tap into some of those Oil profits that their cousins in Texas are currently hording.

AA wants about $489.00 RT, which is a very slight increase over their normal fare, but only by about $25.00 at most.

Southwest wants $397 RT into Harlingen, and then I could take the bus down and back to MTY from Brownsville area, but by the time you pay the cost of transportation between the airport and the bus stations, the cost is about equal to flying directly into MTY from the Midwest, not to mention having to endure the added bus ride-time between MTY and the Harlingen airport.

I'm considering a trip to MTY in June. I'm skipping my regular visits to MTY in April and May, and by the time June rolls around, the girls will think I have forgotten all about them.

I only ask that Carlos visit my favoritas (Carlos, you know who they are at El Infinito), and tell them they are on my mind and in my heart at all times.

MonterreyDude

04-29-06, 04:24

Of course I will...
I will confort them as if I were you!!!!

LK, you had me worried, so I just checked the airfares from my city in the Midwest. The fare is exactly the same as usual, $478 RT. The fare into IAH from my home city is $278, which sounds about right.

I don't understand why the costs are higher than usual from IAH to MTY, but the prices have not changed for me whatsoever. It sounds like Continental is trying to tap into some of those Oil profits that their cousins in Texas are currently hording.

AA wants about $489.00 RT, which is a very slight increase over their normal fare, but only by about $25.00 at most.

Southwest wants $397 RT into Harlingen, and then I could take the bus down and back to MTY from Brownsville area, but by the time you pay the cost of transportation between the airport and the bus stations, the cost is about equal to flying directly into MTY from the Midwest, not to mention having to endure the added bus ride-time between MTY and the Harlingen airport.

I'm considering a trip to MTY in June. I'm skipping my regular visits to MTY in April and May, and by the time June rolls around, the girls will think I have forgotten all about them.

I only ask that Carlos visit my favoritss (Carlos, you know who they are at El Infinito), and tell them they are on my mind and in my heart at all times.

Member #3453

04-29-06, 05:38

I knew I could count on you to help me out...Your sacrifices will not go unpunnished, I assure you, LOL!

Member #3453

04-29-06, 13:27

Well, this board has been quite dead lately, huh! I check it regularly, and hope for additional commentary, but alas, the oil crisis must be cramping the styles of many a fellow monger.

Well, here is a little tidbit that I found very amusing from my last trip to Monterrey, but I forgot to post it last time.

There is a specific bar girl in a club in Monterrey that I've grown quite fond of. It's not necessarily that I've developed any kind of serious emotional feelings for her with respect to affairs of the heart, or that I find that she has more sexual prowess than other bar girls, or that she even turns me on as much as some other bar girls do physically, although she is quite pretty.

She is quite an actress, and quite the consumate professional. I question her sincerity when she acts like I am "special" to her even more than I might question a bar girl with less of a professionally committed demeanor. I fully believe that her interactions with me are part of the act, no doubt. But, she sends me the message that I am somehow more to her than just a regular client. Is it possible we are actually pretty good "friends" after all this time, and that she might actually like me? Maybe so...Well, I like to think so anyway, at least to the extent that she does not particularly categorize me along with all the other hords of hombres she encounters. I hope that is the case, but I am probably most certainly romantically dilussional.

I have developed a strong fondness for her personality and mannerisms. I thoroughly enjoy her company. I find her personality to be uniquely upbeat, happy, and friendly compared to many a bar girl that's been at that kind of work for as long as she has.

She is so consistently upbeat and happy, joking around all the time, having fun, being charming, etc...that I've concluded she is probably some kind of a nutcase, being able to continually be "ON" her game that consistently day-in and day-out is really extraordinary. I probably would not want to be around her during her "down" times. But, even when I have bar fined her, she is able to maintain her upbeat attitude for hours at a time with me, not even showing any hint of an alter ego or a discernable deception of personality.

Afterall, the life of a bar girl is not an easy life to endure. Day-in and Day-out, eduring the seemingly endless hords of guys wanting "one thing," the obnoxiously loud music, the late hours, the seedy shitty working environment, the excessive drinking, and on, and on, and on. Anyway, I find her ability to remain consistently charming to be quite baffling. And, it's not just me. She is very, very popular amoung her other clientelle.

So, she seems very unique to me compared to most other bar girls. In a nutshell, I LIKE HER A LOT, and for reasons that are not typical for most guys visiting the clubs of Monterrey.

Anyway, there is a particularly amusing thing she does in the privados that I really enjoy. I know this is going to sound crazy, but the thing that I like is NOT sexual or romantic in nature. It is strictly something I appreciate in this girl's personality and demeanor.

When the girls are done giving you a private dance, they ask you if you want to leave now, or if you would like another dance. If you say yes to them giving you another dance, they will call out to the guy collecting the money at the entrance to the privados by yelling their names and the word "Otro" (Another).

Anyway, this particular girl has such as melodious way of calling out her name and the word "Otro." I can't really explain why it impresses me so much, other than to say that she is so much different in the way she delivers that line, that I long to hear it when I've been away from Monterrey for a while. It is like her signature song.

I actually miss hearing it when I am not around her. It is like a "emotional marker" for Monterrey with me, LOL!!! So, when I am away from Monterrey, I sometimes imagine her singing out, "XXXXXXX, Otro" in the privados.

It has the same kind of effect on me as listening to some of the songs you routinely hear in the clubs in Monterrey, which I sometimes do while back home in the waste land to relive my better moments in Monterrey. Songs like Zombie, Beyonce Knowles and Jay Z, La Planta, Coldplay, etc...Most of this shit I never listen to at home, but after having been corrupted in Monterrey, I find myself longing to hear it again, just as a reminder, a way of easing the pain of what I am currently missing when back in the wasteland.

Anway, last time I was in Monterrey, I got the brilliant idea of recording my favorita as she sings out her name and the word Otro, and to preserve it for my listening pleasure, just as I have my cache of "Monterrey Songs" to comfort me when I am back home in the wasteland.

So, it occurred to me that I could use my portable MP3 player to do this, which is a relatively small device, about 2.5" square. I also have a pair of folding headphones, which I decided to smuggle into the club so she could hear the result of my recording this foolishness.

I was concerned that I would not be able to smuggle the headphones into the club past the guards at the door. They are sometimes quite difficult to deal with depending on what you're trying to put past them. I know they are sometimes a problem when I try to sneak my pocket rocket into the club.

So, I was surprised when they waived me on through that night, not even frisking me. I am apparently now an official "trustee." I have apparently graduated in status because I've noticed that lately they do not even stop me at the door, frisk me, or anything...they just waive me on through. THOSE FOOLS!!!! they think I am just a harmless Crazy Gringo, LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyway, on the night in question, I found my girlfriend with the melodious tones, and took her up to the privados. I usually store my MP3 player and headphones in a air tight container so I can carry it onto airplanes self contained, everything in one protected case. It's the same Rubbermaid type of container I use when I bring cookies to Monterrey.

Immediately, when she saw my telltale airtight container, and obviously thinking I was bringing her one of my homemade treats, she blurted out, "ah, galletas" (cookies). I said, "noooo, not galletas...MP-trace." She looked quizically at me, as much to say, "WTF???, Crazy Gringo"

I showed her the MP3 player, and told her to go into the "Otro" routine so I could record it. She was actually quite committed to the whole idea, laughing about it, and just having a blast with the whole prospect that some crazy Gringo would even want to do such a thing. She wanted to practice a couple of times, telling the guy at the entrance to the privados to ignore her calls out, etc... And, it did take several "takes" to get it on the MP3 player just right.

Fortunately for me, I was able to get the recording after only one privado. I think I must be nuts to spend 50 pesos for this kind of foolishness, but it is comforting to have it available for a little emotional therapy when I'm not in Monterrey and feeling the effects of my unwanted exile.

I explained to her that I needed her "Otro Routine" so that I could ease my melancholy feelings back home when I missed seeing her. She listened to the recording after we got back downstairs, and was laughing hysterically at it. I guess my folly was quite a distraction for her. Anything to break the monotony of a routine night in the bars of Monterrey.

Money 69

05-22-06, 17:09

I've had these pics on my cellphone for quite a while, these are probably about a year old however I am sure some of you might want to see them, these are girls who use to work at Romano's, they no longer do. Anyway, I hope you enjoy them.

Money 69

05-26-06, 04:11

Anyone know of any place which will rent more like an apartment on a short term basis? Something thats not a hotel but more private like an apartment? There use to be a place which names escapes me now but use to do just this however I beleieve they switched over to monthly rentals only. Any help would be appreciated.

RickMe

05-31-06, 22:20

I'll be in Monterrey tonight and tomorrow night if anyone wants to meet up.

MonterreyDude

06-01-06, 08:35

Sorry I missed this post. Me and Unspongebob did our usual club rounds this Wednesday night (Casino, Harem, Bahamas).
He's gone by tomorrow Thursday, but am doing it again with Wasted (arriving Thursday PM). We are planing on going to Poissons MC... if not, Casino.
Send me a PM.... believe me Rick, you'll get an education!!!

I'll be in Monterrey tonight and tomorrow night if anyone wants to meet up.

Regio Guero

06-04-06, 05:32

Looking forward to Unospongebobs report from his recent visit. Always a fun and informative read. Rickme also if he has anything to report.

Thanks,

RG

Commonglass

06-05-06, 02:29

I've now spent years hobbying with beautiful ladies in the third world that use sexo to support their families. 90% of these ladies are sexually very naive, basically having the same mechanical sex with lots of men and eager for it to be over as soon as possible. 5% of these ladies are just so fresh and naturally sensual that spending time with them is a joy. 5% or less are true professionals, well-versed and capable of making any man happy. They're the ones that teach US a thing or two. There's the Legendary Tania in Tijuana. Bebe Doll in Chicago. These girls have top rate talent, not just looks.

Anyone have someone like that in Monterrey? Basic qualifiers are BBBJ, rimming, kegel exercises, etc. Money is not an issue.

Minnesotah

06-05-06, 06:18

You won't believe, but my MTY pictures are now uploaded in the photo gallery section! What I said is what I did!

Minnesotah

06-05-06, 06:44

the oil crisis must be cramping the styles of many a fellow monger..
In my case, oil crisis and lack of spare time...

When the girls are done giving you a private dance, they ask you if you want to leave now, or if you would like another dance. If you say yes to them giving you another dance, they will call out to the guy collecting the money at the entrance to the privados by yelling their names and the word "Otro" (Another).
I agree that it gives you a taste of a price check in a supermarket. It is really not sexy, but at least, it avoids you to be rip off by the dancer asking you paying 4 dances for only 3 songs or being charged for the second song when you think that's the same one continuing.

It has the same kind of effect on me as listening to some of the songs you routinely hear in the clubs in Monterrey, which I sometimes do while back home in the waste land to relive my better moments in Monterrey. Songs like Zombie, Beyonce Knowles and Jay Z, La Planta, Coldplay, etc...Most of this shit I never listen to at home, but after having been corrupted in Monterrey, I find myself longing to hear it again, just as a reminder, a way of easing the pain of what I am currently missing when back in the wasteland.
Well, I developped that hobby too. Listening to Top40 stations is a pain in my book, but when I go out and I hear some songs. I need to download them because they bring me good memories. It is funny, because the same song here won't matter to me up here, but after I heard it in a booth, that's a another thing.

Anway, last time I was in Monterrey, I got the brilliant idea of recording my favorita as she sings out her name and the word Otro, and to preserve it for my listening pleasure, just as I have my cache of "Monterrey Songs" to comfort me when I am back home in the wasteland.

I explained to her that I needed her "Otro Routine" so that I could ease my melancholy feelings back home when I missed seeing her. She listened to the recording after we got back downstairs, and was laughing hysterically at it. I guess my folly was quite a distraction for her. Anything to break the monotony of a routine night in the bars of Monterrey.
I like the idea of recording her voice. I should think of this next time. In February, I saw U.S. kids taking pictures with the ladies at Obcession, but I was like shy to ask for that there. That's something I can be killed for just for ask it in a similar club up here. In a private room, it is another thing. I did it, but my offers have always been declined. So, I continue to explore the world of taking undercover pictures in public...

About the headphones, why you just explain them, that's for cellphone or listening mp3s in the cab?

Member #3453

06-06-06, 04:18

i just got back from monterrey the end of last week. it was fun, but i didn't spend too much money on girls this last time. i probably spent about half of what i normally spend on the girls.

i only took a girl back with me one night on this trip, and i was there a week. i just limited myself to the buffets at obsession and prestige, the flea market, fraternizing with mis amigos, bar hoping con carlos, and to a modest number of privados at the main clubs, el infinito, el cielo, givenchy, and matehuela.

i didn't even bring one of my two favoritas back from el infinito to my hotel with me this time. i had the opportunity to bring one of them back, but i sensed an ever-so-slight change in her attitude. it was almost unperceptable, but i just sensed that she was in a funk, that her attitude was slightly colder, and just a little less spontaneously genuine.

i just wasn't motivated to spend the money on her this trip, so i decided not to bar fine her. i saw her a couple of subsequent nights, and my feelings about her state of mind did not change. maybe it was me, or could it be that the effects of her chosen profession have started to effect her psyche and her overall attitude?

she told me she had just come off a two week vacation. in fact, my waiter told me that he had not seen her in a while, and he believed she no longer worked at el infinito any more. obviously, when i heard that, i was a little concerned, and puzzled that she had not mentioned it to me on the phone.

i had talked to her briefly on the phone earlier the night before, just to say hello. anyway, when i finally went to el infinito during the late shift the following night to find her, she was there working. but, when i saw her, i noticed an almost unperceptibly different demeanor.

i guess we all have our bad days, or perhaps she was tired, but my senses told me just to leave her alone on this trip. she acted perfectly affectionate and everything, but somehow, something was missing...maybe it was just me, or the carma was off, but whatever the case, i just wasn't that interested in bar fining her this time.

i did see my girl with the "melodious tones" on my first night in town, but never saw her again the rest of the week. her attitude is, and was, consistently upbeat, and i might have been pursuaded to bar fine her once if i had the good fortune to run into her again. but, i never saw her after that first night in town.

that is very strange because she is a regular on the afternoon shift. maybe the strain the job is getting to more than just one of them at a time these days. maybe she was taking more time off too...who knows. i remember last time i visited monterrey, she was telling me of her hopes to open a small clothing boutique, selling ropa out of her casa. maybe she is selling ropa in her spare time, and prefers it to her job at el infinito. it is understandable that she might prefer it to spending every single night of the week working as a bar girl...who wouldn't?

but lately, i have this conservative attitude that i just have other stuff i want to spend money on right now other than bar girls. frankly, i never thought it would happen, but for now, the girls are taking a back seat to my other interests...thank god!!! i always wanted to gain some measure of control over this "female additction" thing. however, i am still relatively horny compared to the average male in the population...to further illustrate that addiction, i did take my girl from el cielo back to hotel patricia this trip.

by the way...i stayed in a new hotel this trip, hotel patricia, one that i was not going to review here publicly for fear that i might be ruining a good thing were i too talk too freely in a public forum about a new found, decent hotel. but, after staying there a week, i found it to be just "ok," and i don't fear that i'll be letting the cat out of the bag.

hotel patricia is located on madero between juarez and guerrero. it is only a couple of blocks east of plaza del arco on the north side of madero. it is closer to the flea markets to the north of madero, but slightly farther from the clubs, and further from a conveniently located atm machine. the oxxo convenience store is closer, at the corner of madero and guerrero. but, the location of the hotel seems to be just slightly less convenient for my purposes compared to pda at madero and pino suarez.

hotel patricia was great in most every respect but one...it was noisy! that lobby has a tendency to echo noise up from the lobby through the corridor. i had a hard time sleeping until i downloaded some ambient noise to my computer and played the sound of a babbling brook or winter rain all night long to mask the voices, slamming doors, television blarring in the first floor restaurant, and the noisy hombres working out in the health club, etc...

there is a weight room on one of the upper floors, and you can hear guys pumping iron, sometimes until 2am! clang, cling, clang, etc...as they lift weights. maybe my room was directly below the weight room, but i was not happy with the noise situation most of the time until i found the ambient sounds program for my computer on the internet.

by the way, the free wireless internet worked very well from the lobby and the restaurant, and it even worked about 50% of the time from my room which was on the second floor and relatively close to the wireless router. but, half the time, it would not work well from the room. i still enjoyed being able to use it without having to venture out of the hotel. they also have two computers on the second floor in the mazanine that work quite well, with high speed internet as well. but, they are occupied much of the time. the hotel seems to have gotten pretty popular, and they are relatively busy most of the time.

the bed is comfortable, the pillows are fine, the bathroom is quite lavish, the showers are hot, the water pressure is great, and the maid service is adequate. however, the rooms are quite a bit smaller than pda. but, it was fine for me. porker came up to the room on one of the days i was there, and he thought the rooms were pretty small.

the air conditioning will work quite well in the room, but you have to tell them to crank it up if it gets a little too warm during the day. the air con is controlled from the front desk, and the vents are shared between two rooms. sometimes, once they turn it down at night, they forget to turn it up later on during the day. so, if you're too warm, which is usually only during the afternoon hours, you have to tell them to crank it up. once they do that, it is quite good actually. but, there were a few times when it was just slightly too warm...it wasn't too bad, but i like the room a little cooler than it was on a couple of the days.

when i brought my girlfriend from el cielo back with me to the hotel, i had no problems with the night desk clerk, but i could tell they were kind of shocked that i had this nubile young 21 year old hotty by my side...maybe more like jealous in reality, but hard to tell whether it's jealously or shock sometimes.

the clerk did not interfer whatsoever, but my sense is that he may have interferred if i had tried to bring several different girls in during the course of the week. i only brought her back one time, so it was not an issue. i think that if you are discrete, and especially if you get their blessing in advance, maybe toss them a few pesos for their trouble, it's probably not going to be a problem.

i try to be very discrete, and only bring the girls back late at night when there aren't too many other guests around. this helps maintain a low profile, and the desk clerk is less likely to be concerned that he may be scolded by the management or ridiculed by legitimate guests witnessing you bringing a girl into the hotel that's less than half your age. hotel patricia seems to be slightly more respectable a hotel than pda, but maybe it's because it's owned by a woman. so, with that in mind, because it was my first experience there in the hotel, i was cautious about being too overzealous bringing girls in there, especially until i can get a more in-depth sense of how much i can get away with.

a funny thing happened to me at el cielo, something that could have been catastrophic. i visited el cielo the second night, and i had gone there looking for my regular girlfriend. i didn't see her working, so my eyes started to wander. eventually, another girl came and stood along side of me, waiting for me to notice her. i looked in her direction, and motioned upstairs, requesting a privado. we went upstairs, hit it off well, and she performed well in the privados. we eventually went back downstairs, and as i was sitting with this new found girl, i noticed my first girlfriend sitting across the room. eventually, i waived at her, and she acknowledged me by waiving back, but i could tell she was distressed and concerned.

anyway, i told the new girl i was with that the other girl was my good friend. the new girl says, "ella es mi hermana." i said "what!!!!," your sister? i looked back over at my girlfriend sitting across the way, and i could tell she was really acting really jealous. she was sitting with another guy, but she just kept looking in my direction, and acting flustered. not really angry, but visibly jealous and concerned.

now, you have to understand, i had said certain things to the sister that i would never want repeated to the other sister for fear that she would be really pissed at me for looking elsewhere, and trying to convince another girl to go back to the hotel with me. for pros, these girls are really unbelievably possessive and jealous...and not necessarily because of the money alone. i know money is a motivator, but ego is also very important to females, and they like believing you have chosen them out of all the others. i can't believe how jealous they can get for other than monetary reasons, but they definitely do get just as jealous as a legitimate girlfriend.

anyway, i had bought the sister of my girlfriend a drink, and all i could think of was how i had gotten myself into a real situation here, a definite gfe killer for sure! eventually, i excused myself with the sister, and told her that i just had to talk to my girlfriend, her sister, about what i was doing. by that time, my girlfriend had moved to the other side of the room, behind me, and taken a seat in the dark, avoiding other people as much as possible, and looking repeatedly in my direction with a really hurt expression.

i sat next to her, talked to her, apologized for seeing her sister in the privados, and told her i had come to find her, but that she was nowhere to be found when i arrived. she barked that she was upstairs in the privados, and she was pretty upset that i had taken another girl upstairs. i apologized again, and assured her that she was my intention from the beginning, and that i wanted to be with her instead. i even told her that i had excused myself with her sister to come and talk to her instead, to make-up with her, that she was the girl that was important to me.

well, she eventually warmed up to me again. undoubtedly, seeing peso signs, she asked if we could go to the hotel. i said ok, and she said she would meet me there in 15 minutes. so, i saw her go over to talk to her manager for a few moments, and then she went upstairs. i left the club for the hotel, not entirely sure whether she would actually show up after i had just made her so jealous.

i figured that she might just stand me up to teach me a lesson. but, i went back to the hotel, and waited in the lobby for her to arrive. she arrived in no more than 25 minutes. i was really happy to see her, and she was very sweet to me. she had apparently decided that she wanted to be with me afterall, and that the prospect of making some money was worth more than saving her pride.

of course, i also like to think that she may also have some affection for me as well, and that her motivations are not all monetary. but, you just never know about these things. i like to think there is something more to her displays of fondness, and that her attitude toward me is more than just an act, but i am probably a dilusionally ignorant of the true realities.

anyway, when i finally met my girl from el cielo at the hotel, i asked if she was hungry. she said yes, and i asked if she wanted to find something to eat. she is the same girl i had taken to bennigan's restaurant one of the other times i was in town, the same girl that the waiters had sung happy birthday to, the girl that was so seemingly appreciative that i had made a big deal over her birthday. but, it was so late by the time we left the hotel, that bennigan's, chilis, and any of the americanized places were surely closed. so, i was kind of at a loss as to where to take her at such a late hour. the taxi driver suggested we go to el al restaurant, which was close, just down the road from the hotel on madero.

i think el al restaurant (spelling?) is open all night, and it has a reputation as having pretty decent food too. anyway, while we were waiting for our food to arrive, the electricity went out, and everyone was sitting in the dark. the staff lit a bunch of candles, and the patrons all sat around waiting for the electricity to come back on.

we waited, and waited, and waited, until finally we decided to leave because they weren't bringing the food out, and we figured the kitchen was out of commission. when i called the waitress over to tell her we had decided to leave, she gave me the full bill, the amount due for the entire meal, the meal we had not received. when i protested, she looked stunned, and asked if we had not received our food yet. when we told her we had not, she hurried back to the kitchen, and immediately came out with the dishes we had ordered. it seems that in all the excitement of the power outage, she had forgotten to bring our food to the table.

surprisingly, the food was still warm, and quite tasty. so, maybe the chef had just finished preparing it. anyway, we finished our dinner, and just as we were finishing up, the lights came back on.

the entire time we were sitting there in the dark, i was kidding my girlfriend, telling her that, in the dark, the bichos were coming after her food, and that she might find a few of them under her chicken patty. she responded by giving me repeated big smiles, and hitting me on the shoulder, telling me to be quiet, lol!!!

on our way back to the hotel by taxi, we noticed a bunch of electric company emergency service trucks in the road, apparently repairing the source of our power outage at the restaurant.

anyway, after we returned to the hotel, she ended up spending about four hours with me. when it came time for her to leave at 4am, i was really surprised to learn that she had actually paid her bar fine of 350 pesos to her bar prior to meeting me at the hotel. or, maybe she was merely telling me she had paid it to extract more money from me.

but, what the hell, it is not worth ruining a perfectly good gfe over a mere 350 pesos. so, when i paid her, i gave her the full 1350 pesos, just as i would have otherwise paid had i met her at the club and paid her bar fine. i realize that she may have been lying about paying the bar fine amount. but, if she was being truthful, then that is pretty good to have a mexican bar girl pay the salida, actually follow through on meeting you at the hotel at the appointed time, and actually spend a full four hours with you when they normally only spend about 1-1/2 hours at the most. so, i was pretty satisfied with the outcome. it was certainly better than i would have thought it was going to be considering the way it started out, with the initial jealousy issues with the sister occurring.

i do have to return to monterrey again in a week or so. i'm tentatively planning to be in monterrey again from about june 17-24, but not sure of the exact dates yet, but probably sometime in that range.

Doubt98

06-06-06, 13:53

Unospongebob,

What are the flea markets? Are they like the ones in the US?

MonterreyDude

06-06-06, 16:51

Unspongebob is refering to the "puesteros", the street vendors on pedestrian Reforma Street.
Not properly a flea market, just people selling from stands.

Unospongebob,

What are the flea markets? Are they like the ones in the US?

Member #3453

06-08-06, 00:53

The flea markets, or Puesteros, are located one block North of Madero from Pino Suarez to Juarez Street. They extend maybe about 3-4 blocks long. They are, as Carlos explained, street vendors whose stores are primarily small cubicles situated immediately next to one another in succession, with roll-up over-head doors that are used to secure the entrance to each cubible at closing.

You can barely turn around in most of them, and others of them are a little more spacious. They have stuff like pirated DVDs, clothes, shoes, electronic stuff, CDs, ball caps, pirated video games, etc...I enjoy looking around in them when I visit Monterrey.

On this particular trip I purchased a huge number of musical concert DVDs. They range anywhere from 40 pesos (under $4US) to as much as 100 pesos (under $10US) depending on the "Gringo Element." That is, depending on whether they think that they can get more out of you because you are a Gringo, assuming automatically that you are austensibly willing to pay the higher price, or are stupid.

On a few limited occassions, I did opt to pay 100 pesos for a DVD or two. But, it was because I had a particular interest in a DVD that I wanted, and they were much cheaper than if I were to buy them in the US.

I realize that I could have probably gotten a better price on a select few of them that I paid 100 pesos for, but I had found a few that were particularly scarse in the flea markets, and the price was worth it to me. Sometimes, you just don't want to spend the time scouring the puesteros trying to save a few pesos, so you just do what is convenient. Most of the time the DVD's will cost you around 50 pesos (under $5US).

On one specific occassion this last trip, I was also trying to avoid talking to a drunken Mexican dude who had stumbled up to me to engage "The Interesting Gringo" in conversation. He was a perfectly amiable dude, but I just wanted out of there so I agreed to pay the 100 peso ransom.

Don't get the wrong idea, it is normally a perfectly safe place and an easy area to roam around without being accosted by intoxicated Mexican dudes, or the criminal element. The Puesteros open about 10-11am and most of them close between 8-9pm at night.

For those that are more adventerous, there are room girls that stand outside a hotel/bar just East of Pino Suarez in the alley parallel to the cubicles, not to mention the bar girls that are available on the opposite side of Pino Suarez. I don't remember the name of that street. Maybe Carlos can help me out on the location of those bar girls that hang out on the street just West of Pino Suarez...is that Reforma Street too?

There may be one or two decent looking ones out of the whole bunch, but none of them compare to the strip club girls. They do not typicaly stack up to the charming personalities of the average stripper or bar girl that can survive on drinks and privados. But, their rates are probably on par, or less than the massage girls. So, if that's your thing, you might be able to save some money by patronizing them. I have never tested those waters, so I can't really comment on their quality. Carlos has always waived me off of them, and warned me that I would not be satisfied with them.

As I previously mentioned, you can get pirated video games for about the same price as DVDs, more or less, in the Puesteros. They have an unbelievable selection of pirated video games available, even the most recent releases. They also sell the actual game machine, Xbox and/or Playstation...but, they are converted to a Mexican software program that permits the pirated games to be played on your machine.

In order to use the games in a "US" Xbox or Playstation you have to bring your machine down to the Puesteros to be converted to the Mexican software version. Or, you can actually buy an XBox or Playstation in the Puesteros, but they are quite a bit more expensive than if you bought one in the US and transported it down to Monterrey to be converted.

Once you have your converted game box, you can buy games in the Puesteros to your hearts content, and they will work perfectly in your newly converted machine for under 5 bucks. Plus, if you buy games in the US, they will still work in the Mexican converted machine. The cost of a conversion is 350 pesos (that's funny, the same cost as a salida at the strip clubs, LOL!!!).

There is also another, superior quality, Puesteros named Pulga Rios. It's located South of Maderio several miles. The Pulga Rios is superior to the one that's close to Madero. If anyone is interested in visiting the others, Carlos can further elaborate on their respective locations and their quality level.

Minnesotah

06-08-06, 07:42

Maybe I will be a little off topic, but you can get almost any dvd title for free over the P2P networks online. What you really need to know is how to burn it correctly, but you can learn it easily. It is only a notch over cd audio burning and it is important, if you want to get it playing in your dvd machine or only playing it on your computer.

Also, I remember to have seen cd / dvd dealers elsewhere in town. It was nothing compared to pino suarez puesteros, but it can be an alternative choice. I don't recall the street name, but it goes from Zaragova to the mall street, near a 100 pesos hairdresser and an second story internet cafe.

About shopping near Madero and Pino Suarez, I recommend you to also shop for relax wear in the shops near the puesteros. I made bargains there compared to our damn gringos prices up here.

Member #3453

06-08-06, 12:19

Point is well taken on your suggestion to burn the DVDs at home. Porker suggested I try the same thing when I mentioned it to him when I was there last week. I can't say that I haven't considered it. I will probably check to see what is on Limewire, just for grins.

I have a satellite internet connection, which is faster than dialup, but it still takes a while. On SAT, uploads are fast, but downloads are much slower. SAT is faster than dialup, but nothing like DSL. If you're using DSL, then it's probably a relatively short process. Of course, if your forced to use dialup, you would be there until next Tuesday trying to download a DVD.

I agree that you also have to determine whether the format downloaded will work in your DVD player. There are more technical considerations that are neccesary to make it all work in the final analysis. It all sounds easy sometimes, but my experience is that once you download it, it sometimes has to be converted to a proper format to play in the average DVD player.

So, I just buy them in the Puesteros. Most of the time, I get them for 50 pesos. I'm not sure the money saved burning them is worth the time I would have to spend to mess with it on the computer. However, there may be a more comprehensive selection available "on-line," so it's certainly worth a look-see.

Also, I find that when trying to download something from P2P, you can't really preview the quality until after you've spent the time downloading it. So, sometimes, even with the music selections I get off of limewire, I am disatisfied with the quality after spending the time downloading. There are times that I've had to find another server to download a different version in order to be satisfied with the quality. If that happens, it's a relative short period of time to waste if you're downloading a music selection, but an entire DVD is another matter.

In the Puesteros, all of the vendors of DVDs have DVD players to preview the quality of your selection. Sometimes the quality is poor, and I choose to pass on buying it from a particular vendor, but I can usually find what I'm looking for from at least one of the other vendors there.

Doubt98

06-08-06, 14:19

I know the "flea market" area now. You didn't mention the room girls that are in the alley. I took one of those girls up on her offer. It was $25us total, not bad, friendly girl, 19 named Deanna. Probably wouldn't do it again, but never say never.

Member #3453

06-08-06, 22:05

Hola Doubt98,

But, I did mention the room girls in one of my most recent posts...

"For those that are more adventerous, there are room girls that stand outside a hotel/bar just East of Pino Suarez in the alley parallel to the cubicles, not to mention the bar girls that are available on the opposite side of Pino Suarez."

I did not know their rates until now, so that is interesting to know, and also to know that it was a relatively satisfying experience. How long did she spend with you for the $25?

MonterreyDude

06-09-06, 08:35

Room girls in the alley charge 200 pesos. 100 for them, 100 for the hotel... guess no more than a 20 minute trick

Hola Doubt98,

But, I did mention the room girls in one of my most recent posts...

"For those that are more adventerous, there are room girls that stand outside a hotel/bar just East of Pino Suarez in the alley parallel to the cubicles, not to mention the bar girls that are available on the opposite side of Pino Suarez."

I did not know their rates until now, so that is interesting to know, and also to know that it was a relatively satisfying experience. How long did she spend with you for the $25?

Member #3453

06-09-06, 11:44

I must be slow because at only 20 minutes time, I would be barely figuring out which end is up, LOL!!! Udoubtedly, that must be the reason why I bar fine them for 2-6 hours for 1350 pesos, which is not a bad rate if you ammortize it out. Plus, 1350 pesos gets you the cream of the crop from the strip clubs.

Lion Killer

06-09-06, 22:43

Sometimes you can find a diamond in the rough in one of the wall/room/door girls. I especially like to go to them in Tijuana. I met several good looking girls on the street who just did not like the bar scene. You can easily befriend them after awhile if you nice and kind. I have had wall/room/door girls come to my room after there shift for a longer play time after meeting them on the street a couple of times.

Carlos is correct, it costs anywhere from 15-30 dollars for 15 to 30 minutes. Just depends on the girl and your negotiating skills. Have fun guys.

PS: Just got back from Roatan Honduras last week, had a blast, there are locals chica's available there, see my report in other areas. Heading to Curacao for 5 days on 4th of July weekend. Curacao boasts the largest brother in the Western Caribbean. I will let you know how it was when I get back. Have fun guys.

LK

NYC Punkrock

06-10-06, 06:07

oh the memories. !

Buster highwayman said on 7/18/03

"so we zipped off to see poisson. Carlos had to bail on us, much to our later chagrin. (i’m telling you: you gotta have the man when you go out.) anyway, it costs us $70 to get in and tipped the "maitre’d" guy $10. He brought over a couple of girls who were attractive enough, and so we bought some "pitchers" for the girls. The were very friendly and paid us quite a bit of attention. I had barbie, who had fake tits, but was otherwise very sexy. She did let me lick her snatch – just a bit. She grinded on my lap for quite a bit and we lay down on the couches and cuddled like spent lovers. Ended up with a bill of 2 pitchers ($400) and 1 drink ($35) plus. $200 for the table! Wtf? "

I am a newbie here. But not to mty. In 2002-2003 I visited frequently for work and had some interesting table adventures. I'm sure I would have had more (and cheaper if I'd been aware of this fine web page! But. I regret nothing cause even though it cost my more than an arm and a leg barbie was worth every penny! After a few privados where she jerked and licked my cock a bit I made a deal with her and she hooked up with me back at my hotel (Plaza en Madero) the visit alone cost me 200 bucks but really really worth it. I mean she even took it up the ass! Wow! So now a few years later I hit mty. Again and poisson looking for barbie. But no! Some of the girls said she was still working in tables but in another part of mexico maybe mazatlan. Does anybody know where? Did anybody else get in on this juicy little blonde morsel cause I'd love to hear about it. This is my first post and I'm sorry if it's a bit pinche. I'll get down and dirty with the details as I get the hang of this.

Peace

Member #3453

06-10-06, 21:13

I wish I could help you specifically with where Barbie may be working, but I don't know her. But, your story amused me, and I just had to comment. Your initiation to Monterrey sounds a lot like my own.

Fact is, on one of my very first visits to the clubs of Monterrey, I eventually found myself in Poisson. I had been strongly warned against it of course. But, "a fool and his money," right? I literally must have spent $500US there one night. I'll never forget it.

I feel like such a fool now, but at the time, compared to the US strip clubs I had visited, I was in heaven. The girls were great, hot, sexy, beautiful, and I remember there were two of them. It was such a shock to see such talent available for...well, for whatever you want. I must admit though, I didn't walk away with any sentimental memories, certainly not 500 bucks worth. But, I justify my foolhardiness by remembering that after experiencing only US strip clubs, the first time Monterrey visitor is sure to go a little loco!!!

What I remember the most from that visit is being presented with a huge bill, having insufficient cash on me to pay for it, and having to go across the street to an ATM for more pesos. They were very nice about it, but obviously concerned about getting paid, and were sure to keep their eyes on me until I settled up.

I was escorted by one of the waiters (bouncers), both of us walking over to the ATM in an absolute deluge of flooding, pouring, rain. Thank God there was an ATM there, or I would have probably had to put the entire thing on my credit card, which I avoid like the plague due to tracebility. Or, even worse, I might still be in the Monterrey lock-up for failure to pay, LOL!!!

To illustrate my point about these girls, and their "lifestyles," two weeks ago I ran into a girl that is special to me. I had met her at TVO four years ago. I had seen her off and on for four years. There were times during that four year period that she was rumored to have moved to other clubs in Mexico to work. She was, and is, beautiful enough to be in demand almost anywhere.

Over the course of the last 4 years, there would be months that I would not see her, and then she would pop back up. In TVO one month, over at Azul-Tequilla another, then to Pasarelas the next, then back to Azul-Tequilla, then nowhere to be found. Then, now, just recently, back at Pasarelas, and after having a baby none-the-less.

I had not seen her for at least a year and half when I ran into her again at Pasarelas two weeks ago. Carlos had recognized her and helped to reunite us on this last trip to Monterrey two weeks ago. She had a baby a year ago, was out of the business for at least a year and a half, and has undoubtedly entered back into it again because she needs the money.

When I talked to her last, over a year and a half ago, she was pregnant, and promising that once she had her baby, she would never re-enter that kind of business again. So much for her altruistic intentions, which I admire. She's back at it again at Pasarelas. But, I know I can never be too sure of where she might be in the future. So, even though she is special to me, and I enjoy seeing her, I have decided to just forget her, and enjoy seeing her when I run into her.

I'm sure your girlfriend, Barbie, may have possibly moved on, maybe even gotten entirely out of the business. There is a lot of transition in Monterrey, and girls don't last very long in that business. They either get burned out, or the stress of that kind of work takes its toll on them. They eventually get too old to make any money as a young nubile bar girl, or they have babies, or they get married, have boyfriends, etc...Sometimes they just have to retire, or take long vacations from it. It's possible she is working in another part of Mexico, but just as likely she lives out in Guadelupe with a boyfriend.

But, for what it's worth, I hope you do find her. I really loved seeing my sweetie a couple of weeks ago, if for no other reason than to say hello, have a drink, or two, or three, or four, LOL!!! Afterall, she has to eat too.

Jp123

06-15-06, 06:01

Visited in Dec 2005 and Jan 2006.

Both Infinito and Matehuala are in downtown.

They are both thinly disguised *****houses.

Infinito has GREAT girls. They look great and perform well too. Some do not suck well, but they all suck and fuck. If you don't speak Spanish, there is always one guy in the place who doeas speak Spanish. Both places are open to about 5 am.

COSTS:

Inside the place you're taken to a series of booths upstairs with a chair to sit on. The girl then sucks you off or fucks you or both.

You pay 20 USD for a bj and 30 USD for a fuck. VERY cheap and good lookers. You also pay for the time you occupy the booth in addition to what you pay the girl - ends up being 10 to 20 $ additional as well.

If you take the girl outside its about 150$ for 2 hrs, unlimited fucks. You pay the cabfare to take her to your hotel and bring her back.

Girls from Infinito I liked best - Angelica (works 6 pm to 11 pm, slim, 22 yrs), Scheil (works 9 pm to 5 am, 24 yrs, slim), Grecia (very small, slim, 20 yrs, works 10 pm to 5 am). All three offer fuck and suck but only Socheil does anal as well.

Lion Killer

06-15-06, 23:10

Jp123,

Good report, but you can get both BJ and FS combined for $20.00 total if you negotiate. All the girls at Infinito and Matehuala will go down/up stairs for $20.00 plus 3 songs at a cost of $5.00 per song.

LK

MonterreyDude

06-16-06, 08:33

Please do not confuse terms.
Infinito and Matehuala are NOT *****houses per se. They are strip clubs with a twist.
Divain, Casablanca, Alfredos and Analuisa ARE *****houses, places that ruled the 80's and yesteryear and have been displaced by the clubs.
There is a whale of a difference between a place where you do it inside a booth with no curtain and a joint where you get a first class private room with a private bath
And sir, I do hope you payed in pesos, cause if you payed in dollars, you over payed.
150 dollars for a "salida"??? $1650 pesos?
Regular price is 1350 pesos.
Do not over pay the girls nor the clubs. You'll spoil everything for Americans coming down here that know the correct prices and you'll make them start charging extra to us locals.
What am I saying? Yes they did overcharge you: 20 dlls for oral plus 30 dlls for F/S. Regular price is 300 pesos tops for an all inclusive service, not 550 pesos.

And this is to be taken with caution: "If you take the girl outside its about 150$ for 2 hrs, unlimited fucks. You pay the cabfare to take her to your hotel and bring her back."
It is NOT unlimited fucks and it is not 2 hours. Regular price for bar fine is 350 pesos for one hour, hour and a half. Depends on the girl. But now am begining to believe that they had a field day with you.
And not all hotels take visitors in Monterrey. Right now there are only 2 or 3 that allow female gusts with no hassels... being them the 5 star Sheraton and the mongers favorite, the Plaza del Arco. The rest will not let them inside their premises and depending on the hotel if you are with the girl, they might even threaten you to kick you out.

Visited in Dec 2005 and Jan 2006.

Both Infinito and Matehuala are in downtown.

They are both thinly disguised *****houses.

Infinito has GREAT girls. They look great and perform well too. Some do not suck well, but they all suck and fuck. If you don't speak Spanish, there is always one guy in the place who doeas speak Spanish. Both places are open to about 5 am.

COSTS:

Inside the place you're taken to a series of booths upstairs with a chair to sit on. The girl then sucks you off or fucks you or both.

You pay 20 USD for a bj and 30 USD for a fuck. VERY cheap and good lookers. You also pay for the time you occupy the booth in addition to what you pay the girl - ends up being 10 to 20 $ additional as well.

If you take the girl outside its about 150$ for 2 hrs, unlimited fucks. You pay the cabfare to take her to your hotel and bring her back.

Girls from Infinito I liked best - Angelica (works 6 pm to 11 pm, slim, 22 yrs), Scheil (works 9 pm to 5 am, 24 yrs, slim), Grecia (very small, slim, 20 yrs, works 10 pm to 5 am). All three offer fuck and suck but only Socheil does anal as well.

Member #3453

06-18-06, 22:57

I don't mean to seem like I am jumping on any one particular dude that chose to post here, and I appreciate hearing of the various exploits of the guys visiting Monterrey. So, please don't take what I am about the say as a slam of any kind. We all make mistakes with pricing, especially initially, and the mistakes that are usually made are usually just minor ones really. But...What I am about to say will hopefully inspire all of us to be more judicious about what we are spending for the services we receive in Monterrey.

Even in the puesteros, the flea markets, I have to be careful about what I am paying, even if only for a DVD, a video game, or cheap piece of electronics. They almost always attempt to overcharge me. Norte Americanos can take a lesson from our Mexican friends and learn to negotiate price. We need to learn to bargain HARD!!!

We should always make a second or third offer if we don't specifically know the going rate. I don't mean we should be obnoxious about bargaining if we know the going rate. But, if you don't know the going rate, you can automatically assume you being asked to pay a higher price than you have to.

You can rest assured that you will be paying the higher price if you do not bargain, especially if you do not speak much Spanish, and especially if you look like a Gringo. I am particular guilty of the appearance issues, walking around town in my Gringo short pants, etc...They can see me coming a mile away. But, I am intellectually prepared for them, and relatively experienced here. So, my appearance doesn't usually effect what I am paying unless I drop my guard, and don't practice what I am preaching.

It is only natural for them to assume that you are willing to pay more than the average Mexican patron because you are a Gringo. Many in the working class are taught from a very early age that you have more money than you know what to do with, a wild misconception that seems to be on the minds of most Mexicans of the working class. They must be indoctrinated somewhere along the line to believe that we Gringos are all oil executives.

They forget that the United States is an astronomically expensive country to live in comparatively. So many of them assume we have so much money that we are all foolish and careless with it. But, maybe we are reinforcing that misconception by spending wildly, without first contemplating how our actions might be affecting the market.

Unfortunately, some of us prove them to be right! Gringos, are at times, careless with their money in Monterrey, especially first time visitors. They are temporarily blinded by the initial shock of seeing the Monterrey brand of strip club versus what we have in the USA. I was initially guilty of this in spades, so my criticisms are hypocritical at best. I should have followed my own good advise then. But, Confusious say "a fool and his money are soon parted."

I can only urge those coming down to do the research, which Carlos has tirelessly outlined here for all of us to see. I have also contributed extensive reports as to what the going rate is for take-out to the hotels, and what the procedure is. I have even given advice as to how you can sometimes get discounts off of that going rate if you are patient, and avoid the urge to let the other head do your thinking for you.

Furthermore, I have noticed that more and more of the hotels seem less tolerant of having pros brought into their hotels. Carlos can attest to this. They do not want the complications. So, you have to be very discrete, and you must pave the way with the security people, desk clerks, etc...in order to bring them into the hotels without getting some kind of eventual objection from the staff or management.

There are a few hotels that seem relatively open to the idea of allowing this kind of activity, but they DO NOT want us flaunting the priviledge. We have to remain low key if we expect this situation to continue here without more of the hotels developing an aversion to permitting our kinds of activities on their premises.

The mistaken idea that we can have multiple orgies with 5-6 girls in one room, and all night wild parties in the hotels of Monterrey are a myth, and will only evetually result in tighter restrictions for us all. So, be very discrete when you are here, or I'm afraid the tide is going to take a turn for the worse.

If you come down to Monterrey, come down here after having read the board and studied the specifics of the market. Come down with the idea that you will support the economic structure that is here, and that you will not contribute to inflating the prices for the rest of us coming from the US. If we fail to address this issue it will only serve to increase the cost for everyone, including any of us that might choose to visit regularly or more than once in a while.

Sorry to be so wordy, but the airlines lost my freakin luggage last night. I am here with only the clothes on my back, and nothing to do but rant on...

Member #3453

06-21-06, 18:43

I've been in town a few days, and didn't really have a whole lot of energy, nor did the girls I had seen in the clubs inspire me to spend the money on bar fining any of them. So, initially for the first couple of days, I just did a few privados here and there, bought a few drinks, conserved my dinero.

But, last night was different. First I went over to El Infinito to see one of my former favoritas. She had agreed by phone to come to the hotel around 1am the previous night, but she never showed up. No real surprise really! So much for trying to avoid paying the salida, a generally unsuccessful endeavor most of the time.

They don't show up 75% of the time unless you bar fine them, and unless you drag them by the hair back to the hotel, you are running a risk relying upon any bar girl in Mexico to, #1, be punctual, and #2, be reliable. My girlfriend was trying to act normal, and she made some kind of excuse, apologizing for not showing up the other night, something about her baby having some kind of head injury....yeah, right! hahaha! give me a break!

I didn't get angry with her, I gave her a cookie, bought her a drink downstairs, sat with her a while, and let it all pass. But, honestly, I am really disatisified with what she is becoming. Before, she was much sweeter, much nicer, much more the "girl next door" type. I realize that it was all an act before too, but she is not trying as hard to maintain the act. So, she finished her drink, I said goodbye, and she went off to wherever bar girls go after they finish their drinks...oh, yeah, she had to go to the bathroom, right again, LOL!!!

I know it sounds like I am angry, but I am not...I am just disappointed because she was a reliable option before, and now she has lost my confidence. She was trying to tell me that her birthday was this Sunday, and I know it is actually the 30th. Then, I asked her where she lives again, and she told me she lives here in Monterrey, when before she told me a bunch of crap about how she lived an hour away. Tonight she tells me she lives fifteen minutes away. I am not naive, and I don't expect them to be truthful, but catching her in so many lies has caused her to lose her charm with me. I may still see her, but it will require some work on her part in the future to keep me as intrigued about seeing her. Frankly, there are just too many options when the girls start to go stale.

I also saw another one of my favoritas. She was going up for a privado. She shouted something back to me as she went upstairs. I think she wanted cookies. Anyway, shortly after she went up, I found a new flaca morena that I don't think I have ever met. Or, maybe I have, maybe once or twice, but so long ago, or perhaps I was so unimpressed that the actual occassion escapes my memory. But, there seemed to be some kind of familarity from her end, and I just vaguely remember having possibly taken her upstairs before. Frankly, I have taken so many flaca morenas upstairs that I can't see how I might have missed one of them, LOL!

So, I took her upstairs for a privado. The minute I came upstairs, the other girl that had shouted to me as she was headed up the stairs was finishing up, about to leave, and she actually chased me down as "new flaca girl" and I walked to the booth. My amiga literally begged me for a cookie. So, I gave one to both girls, standing upstairs, outside the privado booths, eating cookies, in the midst of countless bodies entangled in the privado booths, heavy breathing, panting, and exclamations of "ah si!" heard all around us. A sureal experience to say the least.

Anyway, I got done at Infinito, and decided to leave. I just decided that there wasn't much of interest there for me. My favorita "cookie monster" is so busy all the time, that she has to have a social secretary to book a privado. So, I figured she would be tied up forever. So, I went next door to Givenchy for just long enough to guzzle down a coke. There wasn't anything there of interest either, and just as I was finishing my Coke, they started their presentation. I looked at the girls in the presentation and decided there was nothing of interest. I realized that if the presentation was starting at Givenchy, it was also probably starting at El Cielo.

So, I walked quickly to El Cielo to try to arrive before the presentation ended. There were not too many decent looking candidates at El Cielo either. The options did not seem too great tuesday tonight, not in any of the clubs. But, there was this one girl that interested me. She is a flaca morena.

So, I took her upstairs for a privado. She was really quite good. Sticking her hand down my pants, rubbing me in all the right places, really raunchy in her approach, etc...really good, just like we like them, right? So, I asked if she does Salidas, and she said yes without any hesitation what-so-ever. So, I paid the bar fine, 1350 pesos, negotiating a two hour time period instead of 1-1/2 hours, and after confirming it with the manager, off we went.

We arrived at the hotel and we went up to the room, past the night clerk, who did not look up but merely said "pasa le." I know he must have seen what I was doing, bringing a 21 year old girl up to my room, but he purposefully did not look up. I brought the girl back with me around 9:30pm, so the night security man wasn't stationed on post yet. Later, when I took the girl back to El Cielo around 11:30pm, there was a different night clerk, and the night security man was on duty. They seemed to give me knowing looks as I was leaving to return to El Cielo with my girl, but so far, they've not expressed any objections.

Anyway, here is the part you are not going to believe. First, this girl was a lot of fun. She has a great laughing, joking, fun-loving personality. She is 21 years old and a flaca morena. So, I get her up to the room, and we are joking around for a while, having a good time, listening to music, etc...

So, I notice there is something very familiar about her. So, I asked her how long she has been working, etc...She tells me some of her own demographics like she is a student at school, earning extra money, etc...only working for a couple of months, just a couple days a week. So, she proceeds to tell me she has a cousin working as a bar girl in Pasarelas.

So, about this time, the wheels in my head start turning. I don't really think she looks like anyone I know in particular, but she does have that flaca morena body, and that gorgeous black soft hair. Anyway, I asked her the name of her cousin. She tells me her cousin's name at Pasarelas. She names a girl that I met over at TVO over four years ago, a girl that I have significant drama with, a girl that wormed her way into my psyche, and has occupied a position of reverence with me for almost 4 years.

I almost had a freakin heart attach. I asked if her cousin has a tatoo, and she tells me exactly where the tatoo is located, and exactly what the tatoo is of, something that is not particularly common either. She tells me her cousin's full real name, all four of them verbatum. Of course, I know she is being truthful with me because nobody else would know her full real name but me, and some of her close family members. She told me that her mother is my favorita's mother's sister, and that they have many cousins, uncles, aunts, many family members living in the area. She tells me she lives in Guadelupe but on the other side of town, about 45 minutes from from my favorita. She tells me my favorita has a new baby, etc...which I was certainly already aware of (no, not mine). So, I am almost dumb founded by these revelations, and the accuracy of her knowledge.

Anyway, we get down to business, have a great time. We are having a lot of fun laughing, joking around...she has a great personality and she is a lot of fun to play around with. And, frankly, she is similar to my favorita in that she is similarly charming and fun loving, just as my favorita was initially with me when I first met her, and again most recently as we start to reacquaint ourselves over the last few weeks. I can see the personality resemblance, but she does NOT have the odd kind of moody, bi-polar, messed up kind of personality that my former favorita typically exhibits...at least not yet.

Anyway, I had a great time with her. I would say there were no real fireworks, but she is definitely a good girl to party with. Certainly, I did not see a resemblance between the cousins that would have me falling for her like I fell for my favorita, a condition that I attribute more to being a newbie at the time than for any other reason.

Except my favorita is in fact the tighest thing I have ever had in my whole life, not to mention her emotional affections, the kissing, caressing, etc...She really knows how to turn it on if and when she wants to. That's how she got me hooked. But, the cousin has really good, similar, raw sexual satisfaction type possibilities. And, both cousins are apparently from the same mold, similarly tight.

But, this new girl is definitely a really good girl, very fun loving, and relatively adventurous sexually. ..excellent skill at giving a BBBJ, she realy likes oral sex on her, etc...She experienced real fireworks resulting from that endeavor, LOL!!! She really loved the pocket rocket. She enjoyed the pocket rocket to the point of having so many orgasms she was begging me to stop, hahahaha!!!!

It was like she had so many orgasms it was almost becoming too much to bare. You know how there is a fine line between pain and extasy? She was there multiple times, and just as she would scream "ah si!" she would eventually recoil with a big grin and hearty laughter, saying it was just too good and she could take it any more. Then, when I would start in on here again, she would reach orgasm again, and again, and again, each time having the same reaction, but each time begging for more but just as reluctant to endure the intensity of it...what a blast!!!!!!!! I asked if any other guys had given her oral, or used a pocket rocket on her, and she said no. If she was being honest, it's cool to be the first one to show her the merits of using sex toys, and having oral sex performed on her. I probably ruined her for life now, hahahahahaha!!!!!

Anyway, time came for her to return to work. She stayed the full 2 hours that was authorized by her boss, and she returned with very little time to spare. So, apparently she enjoyed herself too. She told me I was very funny, and she was laughing a lot. Frankly, it was refreshing to find a new girl, bring her back, explore a new personality, etc...

Maybe that is what has been lacking for me up to now. Lately, I just haven't been too motivated to bar fine the girls, having second thoughts quite often at the prospect of spending the money on them.

Maybe I have limited myself to the old standby girls and they are becoming stale for me. After having such a good time with this new girl, I think I am going to modify my activies and start looking for some new blood, and concentrate on taking new girls into the privados. Sometimes you just have to make that investment to keep things lively.

The old girls are definitely starting to take me for granted if the present attitude exhibited by a couple of my old standby's are any kind of example of the direction things are heading. I sometimes think we have a tendency to treat the old standby girls too well, and they wind up taking your patronage for granted, not appreciating the business. It will be interesting to see if when I cut some of them off, they start trying a little harder. We'll see...

Member #3453

06-23-06, 15:46

Thursday night I learned something new. The bar fine amount at a bar named Casino is relatively reasonable. Certainly, it is more expensive than El Infinito, Givenchy, or El Cielo, but it is definitely now an option I was previously unaware of. Most of the other bars in Monterrey that are in the category of Casino are astronomically expensive. The bar fine typically runs 2000 pesos, plus a minimum of 1000 pesos for the girl. Such is the case in other venues like Bahamas, Harem, TVO, Azul, etc…They’re just too freakin expensive.

The bar fine at Casino is 700 pesos, and then you negotiate your fee directly with the girl. In my case last night, she asked for 1500 pesos, and I bargained her down to 1000 pesos. I sat with her for quite a while, along with my amigos, Carlos and Mr. "S" (Sorry Mr. “S,” I don’t recall your screen name right now).

Actually, two girls came over to the table, and both sat next to me, one on each side. My amigo, Mr. “S” had bar fined a girl earlier in the evening, and wasn’t particularly interested in having fun with another one at that juncture, choosing instead to go solo, and conserve his pesos for another time. So, both girls sat with me, one on each side of me.

The two girls that sat with me are sisters. The older of the two, the 20 year old, made all the right moves as we sat in the booth. I was actually enjoying myself quite a bit. The girls sat with me almost the entire time, delivering their antics. But, after the second drink, I could see how the cost might escalate out of control, so I dismissed the 19 year old after two drinks.

Both girls were very pretty. The 20 year old was the raunchier acting of the two, but her 19 year old sister had the tighter body, and the most beautiful eyes and seductive lips. I had a hard time decided between them. But, my gut reaction was that the 20 year old, would be the more affectionate of the two in a bar fine situation.

However, the 20 year old had a baby, and she was just a little too flabby from that. I would have preferred the body of the 19 year old and the personality of the 20 year old. Isn’t that always how it goes, LOL!!! But, the 20 year old was otherwise attractive to me, and I decided pretty early on that her behavior suggested that she might be the better of the two for bar fining.

Both girls were really playful, and I thought the 20 year old showed the most amount of interest. She did the most amount of full mouth kissing, sitting on my lap, rubbing me in the right places, etc…Although, the 19 year old was really good at rubbing in the right places unsolicited too. As I said, “Decisions…Decisions?”

But, for me, my experience with the younger girls is sometimes not all that positive. I was even skeptical about bar fining either of them because of a prejudice I have developed over the years against bar fining younger girls. There are always exceptions to the rule, just like the girl I took back to the hotel earlier in the week. She was only 21 years old, and outstanding in every way. But, she was from proven stock too, from the bloodline of my former favorita from Pasarelas.

But, my general consensus is that they typically look physically very enticing in their very ealy 20's and upper teens, but they are not sometimes the better choice compared to a girl between the age of about 23-26.

There are just too many younger girls out there that do not understand about the different types of men yet, they have not learned their trade sufficiently, and are simply too self absorbed and inexperienced to sense the kind of man they are with, and/or to know how to apply their charms to make the experience the most enjoyable for everyone.

Many younger girls do not know how to be a good companion for more than just a 30 minute romp, nor are they proficient at determining the kind of man they are with. If a 30 minute mechanical romp is all you’re looking for, then you will not understand my criteria for making selections, but my tastes are very well established in my mind, and I know what I like.

Most younger girls just simply don’t have the discipline yet in life to discern the difference between what some men like and want versus what they otherwise deliver to generic clients, nor do many of them even care about the quality of service they deliver as long as they can trick you into bar fining them. So, my prejudices weighed on my mind during the selection process.

Anyway, I bought drinks for both girls, something I rarely do for two at a time. But, the total cost for each of the girls to have two drinks each, a third for the 20 year old, plus my Diet Coke, was only 240 pesos. It sounded way too cheap to me at time, 5-ladies drinks and Diet Coke for 240 pesos, but Carlos double checked the tab. I don’t usually feel that I get too much fun in return when purchasing ladies drinks, but this time I felt like I had a lot of fun for only 240 pesos. I still wonder whether they made a mistake. Even Carlos commented that something was out of character last night at the bar.

So, eventually we all left Casino, me and my girl going our separate ways in a taxi, and Carlos and Mr. “S” off in an undetermined other direction. My girl and I arrived back at the hotel around 1am. The front door had been barred shut, and there was no attendant. So, I used the room key to move the bar up and away from the door by slipping it between the two glass partions of the door, knocking the bar up and away from barring the door closed, and we entered the hotel as the bar crashed to the floor causing a loud clatter, wood bar on marble floor.

About that time, following the loud clatter, the night clerk came up from the back, apparently in El Bano. He did not challenge me, or act odd in any way. He merely politely acknowledged us, and off we went to the room. So, apparently, my activities are acceptable to him. Certainly, the hour of the night, my attention to proper discretion, etc…probably helps to ensure that any objections are kept to a minimum. It is the first time I have brought more than one girl to the hotel in a week’s time. So, if I choose to do the same thing Friday night, I’ll see what kind of reaction I get to frequently testing their patience.

Anyway, this girl did ALL the right things in the room. She was a great sexual companion, and very skilled. Great BBBJ, likes oral on her, liked the pocket rocket, albeit moderately and briefly. She was good as far as “sex” goes. She even did a lot of kissing and was pretty affectionate during the act.

But, here is where she messed up. She is a clock watcher. I literally hate that!!! A girl that once the deed is done, she is getting dressed immediately, and fixated on beating it out the door.

She is one that likes to tell whatever lies she believes she can make you believe in order to get out the door, telling you that she will return to come back in 15 minutes, that she has to leave to get her suitcase, to pickup her money, etc…they are just full of balony.

I have had a few of them act this way over the years, and I no longer fall for it, or trying to pursuade them otherwise. Instead, I just accept that they are the way they are, and wanting to go. I have no expectations that the session will improve if they do not wish to stay. If she had stayed a while, been sweeter and “acted” less interested in going on her way, it would have been a perfect bar fine, even if only she had stayed a half hour to top off the night.

Again, they don’t get it! She was not that great of an emotional companion because, in her mind, she had fulfilled her obligation, and she believed I should be, and was, satisfied. And, I was satisfied sexually, certainly... great job! But, in my mind, I paid for something more. From my past experiences, I know that something more exists. So, I feel kind of cheated sometimes when I don't get it.

She did not have a giving personality in the final analysis. Certainly, I know a lot of girls that have very giving personalities, and they are not only disciplined enough to stay a little longer, but they want to stay longer. So, while I enjoyed what little time I had with her, 35-45 minutes at the most, the experience would have been much more enjoyable had she also had a giving personality.

That is the trait I seek in my girlfriends. I have found it among a few of them, but there are just as many of them that are strictly mechanical providers. I would rate this most recent one as better than your average mechanical provider. That is, she was into the act while it is taking place, giving of herself totally to acheive the desired result. But, there is no emotional comfort to be had, which is something I enjoy more than merely experiencing a sexual encounter.

The way I see it, if I want strictly a half hour to forty five minute sexual encounter, I can go to one of the huge number of massage parlours here, and get that kind of session. Except, in all fairness to her, I would say that her enthusiasm during the act surpassed what I might normally experience in the massage parlour setting.

However, that being said, in the final analysis, I think I probably paid about 1000 pesos more than I would otherwise have to pay for a very well delivered mechanical session in one of the top end massage parlours here. Some of the top end massage parlours have some stunningly attractive girls, girls that are on average, as pretty if not prettier than what is proportionally available in the bars, albeit at a comparatively much higher price than the medium to lower level massage places, but still cheaper than a bar fine from the clubs.

So, my point is...when I spend 1700 pesos, I expect to have an experience that will be sufficiently surpassed compared to one that I could otherwise get in the high-end massage parlour for 700-800 pesos. Some of these girls in the bars need to work a lot harder IMHO!

I am not the only one that feels this way. My friend, Mr "S" had just finished experiencing the same thing with the girl he bar fined earlier in the evening. He proceeded to tell me he had turned down an opportunity to take a travel voucher from the over-booked airlines he was flying, which would have delayed him further in his original destination.

Instead, he declined the offer in anticipation of his on-time arrival in Monterrey, only to have a mediocre experience with one of our gorgeous but under talented bar girls from El Infinito. He expressed remorse at having passed up the opportunity for a free airline ticket only to have such disappointment. It cost him more than it costs me. He wasted the bar fine, and a free airline ticket probably amounting to a value in the range of at least $450.

So, IMHO, we need to start holding out for better performance from these girls. In my mind, while I don't particularly enjoy them very much, the high end massage parlours are looking more and more attractive. I could literally go to one of the highest-end massage parlours literally three times for what it cost me at Casino last night. And, Mr. "S" could have spent all week in the high end massage parlours on what it cost him to invest in a mediocre bar girl yesterday afternoon.

I am vowing at this very moment to learn the Spanish phrasing to sufficiently convey to the girls what I expect, and how they are to be paid based on their performance. I am going to learn how to tell them that I will not bar fine them otherwise, and that they will earn less in compensation if they do not deliver.

Furthermore, I am also going to learn how to tell them I do not want them ordering doubles drinks that cost an arm and a leg, a situation that also irritated me yesterday with one of my girlfriends over at El Obsession during the buffet ritual.

Member #3453

06-25-06, 14:12

Friday night was my last night in town. I decided that I needed to get over to El Cielo early to try to find one of my favoritas, a girl I had been looking for all week but could never find.

My flight was scheduled to leave early Saturday morning, and I knew I wouldn't have much time, especially because I wanted to preferably catch a little sleep before leaving for the airport around 5:30am. So, I decided that maybe my favorita would be a good option, if I could locate her.

Finally, upon walking into El Cielo this time, there she was, standing right there in plain view, right at her normal perch, a big smile on her face. She hugged me, asked me when I arrived in Monterrey, etc...I pointed up to the privados and away we went.

I talked to her in the privados and she told me she had been working several of the days that I tried locating her. I guess she was just occupied in the privados. I guess the smarter thing to do if I am truly looking for a specific girl, is to merely ask one of the waiters if she is there. There were several nights that I would have liked to have bar fined her, but I didn't see her and just assumed she wasn't working. She told me she worked at least three nights that week already.

I suppose the fact the I do not think to ask for her speaks more to the issue of my wanting to possibly scope out the new talent. Afterall, I did find a new girl on Tuesday night that was really quite good. Anyway, now I have to worry because both of these girls are really favorites of mine, and that is sometimes a recipe for disaster if they find out about each other. You can sometimes end up with "ZIP" over it. Or, it can enhance competition, and keep the girls trying harder. It all just depends on the girls themselves, and their personalities.

It almost ruined me last time I was in town when my favorita saw me come down from the upstairs privados with another girl. I couldn't find my favorita that night last month either, so I had innocently selected another girl for a privado. I had come downstairs with her, and was in the middle of negotiating a salida with her when I noticed my favorita glaring at me from across the room, all emotional...OH CRAP!!!

I reported on that circumstance last month. Suffice it to say, I handled that situation by dumping "substitute privado girl" like a hot potato on the spot, and appealing to my favorita for forgiveness. When I came back downstairs with the substitute privado girl, I was surprised how, when my favorita saw me, it made her really jealous and visibly hurt. I was quite surprised at favorita's display of emotion. I know that money is a factor in all of this, but it really seems that there is more to it than that.

Anyway, the reverse occurred on Friday night. I had just bar-fined my favorita, and she had left to go upstairs to change clothes so we could leave for the hotel. She had been gone for about 2 minutes when in walks my "new girl" from Tuesday night. "New Girl" made a B-Line for me, hugged and kissed me, acted really interested, very familiar and affectionate, asked me how long I had been there, etc...then, she said she had to go upstairs to change into costume for her shift. I know that as she was leaving to change, she was also anticipating that I would be there waiting for her to come back down.

Of course, when my favorita finally came back down from changing into street clothes, we left El Cielo immediately. So, I'm sure my "new girl" wondered why I left. But, had I not left, I think there would have been an even greater issue for me. Better to be gone than for the two of them to see each other, especially for my favorita to see "new girl."

I think "new girl" is new enough not to make assumptions, or to be overly possessive, or emotionally entangled, etc...But, favorita is seemingly emotionally entangled. Many will think I am dilusional at best, and self congratulatory at worst, but favorita's behavior toward me is seemingly different than all the other girls in Monterrey. But, "new girl" is more the "pro," and perhaps a little less naive about the possibilities.

Favorita wants to be entrenched, and she is really seemingly emotionally hurt seeing that she has competition. The emotional expressions on her face are not born of anger, but are seemingly heart felt expressions of emotional disappointment. I have made other bar girls angry with me for seeing competition, and they display the normal range of angry emotion. There is no mistaking their motivations, it is most definitely an emotion based on money. But, favorita is different somehow. As I read her facial expressions and body language, she is seemingly genuinely hurt by the prospect that I may have found another girl to replace her.

When we were in the room this last time, favorita was asking me all kinds of GF kinds of questions, asking about having a GF in the US, whether I am married, complaining that I am always returning to the US too soon, acting like she doesn't want to wait a month for me to return, etc...These are obviously things that a girl could say that are simply part of the "routine." But with favorita, the routine seems born of a genuineness that is seemingly real. Frankly, I think favorita is a little "thick" in the head, not particulary swift. She isn't particularly slow witted, but there is a slight hint that she is just a little bit ditsy. That's why I think she may actually be displaying emotions that are actually quite possibly for real.

What a sweetheart!!! That is why it is a total GFE with her each and every time. Not only is she emotionally nurturing, she absolutely loves sex more than any girl I have ever known. Really, her desire for sex is primal. She is worth 100% of the salida each and every time. I have never been disappointed in her. She is one of the reasons I am down on some of the other girls I have bar-fined in Monterrey lately. They simply do not stack up to favorita with respect to attitude, and sexual appetite.

Back to El Cielo...The entire time I was waiting for favorita to come down after changing into her street clothes, I am worrying that the two girls, favorita and "new girl," are going to run into each other upstairs, and that my "goose will be cooked," "my ass will be grass," etc, etc, etc....

I worried the entire time I was waiting for favorita to come down. And, it was taking a while, so my imagination was running wild thinking how their tongues were wagging upstairs, and that they must be plotting together to get rid of me, LOL!!! I was really concerned that if they somehow started talking with each other, I might be sabotaged with both girls.

But, fortunately, when favorita came back downstairs, she said nothing, not then, and not the rest of the night. So, apparently the girls did not talk to one another. It's possible they do not really know each other, and I'm safe for now. But, eventually, this circumstance has the potential to be problematic. Fortunately, I have "new girl's" cell phone, and I think I can book her outside the club to mitigate a potential conflict for next time. Of course, if "new girl" starts to exhibit these same traits as favorita, I am going to be in trouble.

Normally, I would not worry so much about two bar girls competing with one another. They should be used to it. It happens all the time, and frankly, it's a good strategy to keep them on their toes. So many of them get lazy, and unless they think they have some competition they will lay down on you. So, if you establish the game rules up front with them, they will usually work a little harder to keep you interested.

But, in this case, after seeing favorita's hurt expressions, I just can't bring myself to act that way to her. Besides, I am also concerned that by hurting favorita, I might alter the outstanding character of her GFE delivery. But, frankly, she has strong competition in "new girl." So, this could be interesting.

El Cabron 007

06-30-06, 03:46

Mr. "S" here. Remember our chat in at the PDA? Sunday night, Mr. "L" and I spent a most memorable night with 2 fine chicas. A night I will never forget and I know Mr. "L" will not either. Although the weekend did not start right for neither one of us, it ended on a high note. 6 hours of pure pleasure. Then as we said adios to the girls and as soon as they were paid, I remembered you when one of them just 'turned OFF'

It did not bother me at all. We had our fun and after being our sex slaves from 7 pm until 3 am, she has all the right to want to turn off. Paid her taxi ride too and loved returning to my room. Although I was seeing double by 3:30 AM, I still had a smile on my face and will want to see those girls again. Will turn them on and will turn them off. I get what I want and they get paid for it. I will not fall in love with her but will love to spend time with her. If she is not there, I'll take the other one, if they are both there, I will take them both back.

I have made it a point to either set with more than one girl or take more than one girl back. Let them compete to please me. None of them expects me to be faithful and both will be wondering who I will be taking home tonight.

Jp123

06-30-06, 04:13

150 dollars for a "salida"??? $1650 pesos?
Regular price is 1350 pesos.It's 10 pesos to the dollar dude. So thats 1500 pesos.

What am I saying? Yes they did overcharge you: 20 dlls for oral plus 30 dlls for F/S. Regular price is 300 pesos tops for an all inclusive service, not 550 pesos.

You're making an assumption that its additional. I agree, its 300 pesos for all inclusive and that is what I paid - 30 dollars.

For some reason you added up the two to make 550 pesos out of nowhere. Need to work on your math dude.

To clarify -
oral alone - 20 USD
all-inclusive - 30 USD

And this is to be taken with caution: "If you take the girl outside its about 150$ for 2 hrs, unlimited fucks. You pay the cabfare to take her to your hotel and bring her back."

It is NOT unlimited fucks and it is not 2 hours. Do you know more about how many fucks I had in my hotel room, or would I know more? Were you in my room for two hours or was I? Obviously, I'm speaking from my own experience. Don't be a dumbass and contradict obvious facts.

And not all hotels take visitors in Monterrey. Right now there are only 2 or 3 that allow female gusts with no hassels... being them the 5 star Sheraton and the mongers favorite, the Plaza del Arco. The rest will not let them inside their premises and depending on the hotel if you are with the girl, they might even threaten you to kick you out.Perhaps I should have made myself clear - I did NOT stay in Monterrey. I stayed at the Marriot in Apodaca near the airport. Like I said, don't make assumptions and don't be a dumbass.

Take it easy dude. Relax, get a beer.

MonterreyDude

06-30-06, 08:09

Please sir, it is not only me.
You were had... sorry to tell you.
(10 pesos for a dollar??? going rate is 11 plus per dollar... never pay in dollars at the clubs!!!!!)
Remember, am a local, have always been. The girls always boast how they con the "gringos" that know nothing of the prices.. specially if they pay in dollars.
We here at this Thread, are not chastising you, we are just telling you what the going rate is so next time you are here, it wont happen again.
And sir, thanx for the beer, but I do not drink.
Don't touch alcohol when am clubing around.
It numbs your mind and clouds your reasoning...
Next time you are coming over, PM me.
I'll be glad to point out the clubs, their respective rates and I'll send you my maps, so you can check other clubs while being here.

PS: am writing this, (2 am) just arriving from the Casino Mens Club. Just passed sentence on 2 girls, told them I would screw them both come next Wednesday. Together in the same private room. Will cost me like 2000 pesos total for 30 minutes, but it will be worth it. One of them told me that although she has neve been with a woman, she will do it and the other said "sure, don't care, I'll do it with her, no problem".

It's 10 pesos to the dollar dude. So thats 1500 pesos.

You're making an assumption that its additional. I agree, its 300 pesos for all inclusive and that is what I paid - 30 dollars.

For some reason you added up the two to make 550 pesos out of nowhere. Need to work on your math dude.

To clarify -
oral alone - 20 USD
all-inclusive - 30 USD

Do you know more about how many fucks I had in my hotel room, or would I know more? Were you in my room for two hours or was I? Obviously, I'm speaking from my own experience. Don't be a dumbass and contradict obvious facts.

Perhaps I should have made myself clear - I did NOT stay in Monterrey. I stayed at the Marriot in Apodaca near the airport. Like I said, don't make assumptions and don't be a dumbass.

Take it easy dude. Relax, get a beer.

Jp123

07-01-06, 21:39

This is getting funny. Sure I bet I was had, but not by much. I do know the exchange rate was 10.2 pesos to the dollar when I visited in Dec and Jan.

But thanks for the offer dude - if I visit again, I'll definitely take you up on it and the first round of beers is on me.

I have to mention though - the babes at Infinito are fantastic - very slim and that's exactly what I like.

Please sir, it is not only me.
You were had... sorry to tell you.

(10 pesos for a dollar??? going rate is 11 plus per dollar... never pay in dollars at the clubs!!!!!)

Remember, am a local, have always been. The girls always boast how they con the "gringos" that know nothing of the prices.. specially if they pay in dollars.

We here at this Thread, are not chastising you, we are just telling you what the going rate is so next time you are here, it wont happen again.

And sir, thanx for the beer, but I do not drink.

Don't touch alcohol when am clubing around.

It numbs your mind and clouds your reasoning.

Next time you are coming over, PM me.

I'll be glad to point out the clubs, their respective rates and I'll send you my maps, so you can check other clubs while being here.

PS: am writing this, (2 am) just arriving from the Casino Mens Club. Just passed sentence on 2 girls, told them I would screw them both come next Wednesday. Together in the same private room. Will cost me like 2000 pesos total for 30 minutes, but it will be worth it. One of them told me that although she has neve been with a woman, she will do it and the other said "sure, don't care, I'll do it with her, no problem".

MonterreyDude

07-03-06, 07:16

Oh! on that we agree totally....

This is getting funny. Sure I bet I was had, but not by much. I do know the exchange rate was 10.2 pesos to the dollar when I visited in Dec and Jan.

But thanks for the offer dude - if I visit again, I'll definitely take you up on it and the first round of beers is on me.

I have to mention though - the babes at Infinito are fantastic - very slim and that's exactly what I like.

Member #3453

07-04-06, 16:45

JP123,

I strongly encourage you to seriously take Carlos up on his offer. He has taught me everything I know, in spite of myself, LOL!!! Being a part of the "Monterrey Gang" is a blast, and his tutelage is invaluable...Really!

Member #3453

07-04-06, 16:47

Hey Mr. "S,"

When are going to be back in Monterrey. I will be there again 7/29-8/5, FYI.

Money 69

07-05-06, 17:43

I am going to be arriving in monterrey this weekend (June 7th). If anyone from here is going to be in town this weekend please let me know, I'd like to find some people to hang out with at least one night. Im leaving on the ninth. I will only be there for the weekend. You can contact me via PM on here.

Lion Killer

07-06-06, 00:49

Join the Monterrey Group Jp, I am not flaming you but your coming off as kinda a nerd. No one here is out to get you or make you look bad, we are all here to help. Carlos is your best friend in Monterrey, UnospongeBob is quite the character (hope to meet him one day) and and I can only wish I could visit there as much as he does. Porker hasn't been around in a little bit, but he is a regular also.

Myself, UnospongeBob, Porker and many others have enjoyed the best Monterrey has to offer thanks to Carlos (sorry this is off the subject, I just returned from Curacao spending 4 nights, it was great, check my report there in a few days when I rest up).

It seems you have had some good times in Monterrey Jp, we enjoy to hear that, any information we many give you is our way of trying to help you, not flame you. So chill out and work with the group, please slow down on the negative comments. Viva La Monterrey.

LK

Frank Lucas

07-06-06, 23:32

Unspongebob, Carlos and the gang. I will do my best to be there at the end of the month and we shall have a great time as usual.

Woodway

El Cabron 007

07-10-06, 01:36

Hey Mr. "S"

When are going to be back in Monterrey. I will be there again 7/29-8/5, FYI.Plan now is to be there 8/3. I wanted to go on 7/20 but my partner, Mr. "L", can not commit. I am so hungry for MTY. I can taste it. Hush Carlos:)

And to Lion Killer. I may be selfish, but I have no problem keeping MTY a secret. It's my only getaway and would like to keep it to myself if I could. I want to be the only gringo there. I want to have all the fun for myself. Let others go to TJ or Playa del Carmel. I can point them to the right places. I've been there and will never go back. MTY is mine, ALL MINE. :)

Just kidding of course, there's plenty to go around. But I do not undersand why others argue with the local (Carlos) and the regulars.

I will share, unlike Carlos. I will share. Me amiga it tu amiga. And UnospongeBob, hands off dude. Keep away from my food.

Hope to see you there. I can't wait. Although last trip was my last.

Aug. 3rd. Leave the lights on for me.

Wasted (Mr. "S")

El Cabron 007

07-10-06, 01:42

Carlos,

Where you in the room with this guy? What the heck were you doing there? 2 hours?

Do you know more about how many fucks I had in my hotel room, or would I know more? Were you in my room for two hours or was I? Obviously, I'm speaking from my own experience. Don't be a dumbass and contradict obvious facts.

Perhaps I should have made myself clear - I did NOT stay in Monterrey. I stayed at the Marriot in Apodaca near the airport. Like I said, don't make assumptions and don't be a dumbass.

Take it easy dude. Relax, get a beer.And you drink ber too? What the heck?

Wasted

Member #3453

07-10-06, 04:20

Wastedgman,

You would deny a starving man? Could you please throw me your table scraps once in a while...I'm dyin' over here.

By the way, if you are staying at PDA, their rooms are very dark most of the time, so dark that I can never see anything when I stay there. I have concluded that there are not sufficient light bulbs in the place available to leave the light on for you...so, I am staying at my usual haunt several blocks to the East.

I will be in MTY from 7/29-8/5...hope to see you, MR. L, Woodway, and of course, THE "KING" of Monterrey, Sr. Carlos.

Galletas con chocolate for all!!

El Cabron 007

07-10-06, 17:22

See you guys there. Takes it easy on the locals. Be gentle. them cute little kids are so lovely and sweet. So Crunchy.

I've had it with the kids from the "P" place. I may go there for lunch but will not entertain them although I am head over heals for 'you know who'. If I could have her, I would have conquered MTY.

But that's it for them "P" kids. Let them suck cake for all I care.

UnospongeBob, I totally agree and share you feelings about the locals. But you and I need to have a long long talk. One of us has to convince the other. And I will help you get rid of your cookies while we chat.

Hats off for Mr. Monterrey. Long live Monterrey.

Wasted

Wastedgman,

You would deny a starving man? Could you please throw me your table scraps once in a while...I'm dyin' over here.

By the way, if you are staying at PDA, their rooms are very dark most of the time, so dark that I can never see anything when I stay there. I have concluded that there are not sufficient light bulbs in the place available to leave the light on for you...so, I am staying at my usual haunt several blocks to the East.

I will be in MTY from 7/29-8/5...hope to see you, MR. L, Woodway, and of course, THE "KING" of Monterrey, Sr. Carlos.

Galletas con chocolate for all!!

Member #3453

07-11-06, 05:54

I like the "P" place, but I am "PORKERIZED" there. I conserve my dinero for other venues. I like the buffet, listen to the music, to hand out a few galletas here and there, to gander at the girls, and to banter with them back and forth a little bit. But, nothing more. Eventually, they get the idea, and they leave you alone. They treat Porker and me like we are from Mars.

Your little girlfriend has a genuinely sweet personality. I actually like her, aside from the obvious. Some of the girls come across as "opportunistic," "fake," "aggressive," etc...but, your girl has an aire of innocent "deer in the headlights" charm. To know her more intimately would certainly be an "achievment," no doubt!

See you in a few weeks...

MonterreyDude

07-11-06, 18:53

Perverts....
Both of you.
LOL... see you guys, in 15 days and in 3 weeks.

PS: I do not share. Most of the readers of this Thread don't know Unspongebob and Wasted... I would never ever share one of my Sacred Flock lambs to them... Either they would spoil them or ruin them!!!!

I like the "P" place, but I am "PORKERIZED" there. I conserve my dinero for other venues. I like the buffet, listen to the music, to hand out a few galletas here and there, to gander at the girls, and to banter with them back and forth a little bit. But, nothing more. Eventually, they get the idea, and they leave you alone. They treat Porker and me like we are from Mars.

Your little girlfriend has a genuinely sweet personality. I actually like her, aside from the obvious. Some of the girls come across as "opportunistic," "fake," "aggressive," etc...but, your girl has an aire of innocent "deer in the headlights" charm. To know her more intimately would certainly be an "achievment," no doubt!

See you in a few weeks...

El Cabron 007

07-11-06, 23:11

Carlos, Me Pervert? Coming from you, that's a complement. After all, you were my teacher. :)

And UnospongeBob, yeah, what are the odds of you liking my little sweet crunchy girlfriend from the "P" place? I saw you drooling when I had her keep you company for 5 minutes once. Remember?

But if you knew what I know. Oh my. She has the sweetest hershy way and. Well. I can not type any more. Cold shower.

I think it may be better I give up on her. No wait. That would mean you will go after her. But beleive me, if you have her, you will never be satisfied with any other.

Remember what you once said? If a man got married to a girl, the they go home and he finds out he has someone like her for a wife. He will have a heart attack. LOL. I think you will -- LOL --

OK. Mr. "L" just messaged me confirming 8/3 and I got my PDA booked. With extra's (tell you later). See you all there and then.

Perverts.

Both of you.

LOL. See you guys, in 15 days and in 3 weeks.

PS: I do not share. Most of the readers of this Thread don't know Unspongebob and Wasted. I would never ever share one of my Sacred Flock lambs to them. Either they would spoil them or ruin them!

I Luv Puss

07-14-06, 09:27

I want to take a trip during Thanksgiving to TJ but after reading the report there and then here. It sound like Monterrey is a better/safer choice. Is Thanksgiving a good time to go? I'm Asian and single and Thanksgiving is not big with my family.

I live in Houston, TX. What's the best/cheap way to get there? Should I drive to the board than take a bus? Is there any bus from Houston to Monterrey? The air fare from my search on the internet is around 300+ for round trip and there are hotel + airfare bundle for $600+ since this is going to be a first time mongering at Mexico vactiaon, I was thinking Hotel + round trip airfare is a better deal. What do you guys think?

The price from strip club, *****house, spa. Etc. Seem way way cheaper than you. S. Can I ask you guys how much you spend during your trip to Monterrey? So I can have a idea on how much I should save up for my Thanksgiving first time mongering at Mexcio trip going to be.

Thanks for any feedback. I've also consider driving to Cali then to TJ and on my way back going to Vegas but saftey is number one concern for me.

Is Monterrey safe? Do any of you Senior/Vetern member going to be there during Thanksgiving? I'll like someone give me a noob hand holding for a day and explain the in and out on Mexico mongering.

Cheer

Member #3453

07-15-06, 05:13

The answers to the questions you have asked could literally fill a book. And some on here are aware that I could easily fill a book with my prolific commentary :-). So, it is with great remorse and apology that I provide the following enlightenment. I will attempt to be as brief as possible, but still answer your main concerns.

I have never visited TJ, so I can't really tell you for sure that Monterrey is better than TJ, although I believe, after hearing about the TJ experience from those who know, that my own personal preferences are more likely satisfied in Monterrey compared to TJ.

I am of the impression that TJ is primarily a short time venue. Monterrey offers both short time encounters, which are quite reasonable in price, as well as all-night/long time encounters, which are quite expensive in comparison to the more abundant short time options. Successful Long Time encounters require you to have significant communicative skills, while short time options are relatively easily accomplished. It is pretty easy to get whatever you want in the clubs, which are short time oriented. It's when you attempt to arrange encounters with the girls outside the clubs that things become much more complicated without the proper language skills. Even with fluency in Spanish, arranging long time encounters can be very frustrating in Monterrey.

I suspect that TJ may be easier on the monger that does not know Spanish. TJ is closer to the US border, and I suspect it's more oriented to the Non-Spanish speaking visitor. However, with respect to safety, I know that Monterrey is SIGNIFICANTLY SAFER than TJ. Monterrey is a very safe city, and I have never felt threatened or unsafe there, even when I am walking the dark streets between some of the clubs late a night, sometimes until 4am. I have never had even a hint of a problem with crime in Monterrey. There are numerous Policia in downtown Monterrey, and while they are slightly dishonest, they are relatively reliable with respect to keeping crime in check, and significantly more honest than what you will encounter in TJ, and in other parts of Mexico. Obviously, you have to be smart about the basics of self preservation, but Monterrey is nothing like Mexico City, nor is it even close to as bad as TJ is reported to be.

With respect to "long- time" versus "short-time" options, I enjoy long time encounters, 1-1/2 to 3 hours typically, and occassionally I am lucky enough to get all night encounters. I say lucky because all night encounters are rarely available in Monterrey without significant knowledge and experience.

On a typical trip to Monterrey for one week, I will usually spend about $800-$1000 if I stay 5-6 nights, and that is just for my entertainment. The cost of travel (airfare, bus rides, hotels, etc...) are expenditures that are all in addition to my entertainment budget. It is not uncommon for my trips to Monterrey to cost me around $1500=$1800 total.

Lately, I've been very conservative with my expenditures, and I've been able to get by spending only about $500-$600 for my entertainment over 5-6 nights, but that's only bar fining a girl 2 or 3 times, only taking them back to my hotel for long-time two or three times over the course of an entire week. That is significantly less than my past activity, which had me bar fining a girl long time almost every night. I am slowing down in my old age...or maybe I am just getting cheap.

You can spend signficantly less than what I typically spend by going more to the massage parlors and/or frequenting the short time sessions in the strip clubs. But, be careful, the short time sessions can add up, and you can sometimes end up spending more than you bargained for on drinks, and extended short-time romps. It is not uncommon for a short time session that was supposed to cost around forty dollars turns into an eighty dollar session. But, without much prior experience in Mexico, you are probably better off limiting your efforts to short time encounters. But, with short time sessions, the girls are masters at extracting more money from you. So, you just have to be on your toes. If you know a short time encounter is supposed to take about 20 minutes, then you must keep time yourself, or they will surely do everything they can think of to extend your stay, thereby making it more expensive.

Long time encounters cost on average about $135 for 1-1/2 hours back at your hotel. Short time and massage parlor sessions range from about $5 for a semi-private four minute nude dance to about $40 for full service in an open cubicle with no privacy. If you frequent the higher end massage parlors, it will cost you about $60-$80 for a half hour to 45 minutes of full service, delivered in a relatively clinical manner, but none-the-less pretty satisfying.

If you do not know Spanish, first trips into Mexico can be a little daunting. In Monterrey, you will NOT encounter many people who speak English. Of course there are some. The educated class speaks relatively good English. But, you must remember that your everyday encounters will not be with those of the educated upper/middle class. You will be dealing primarily with the working class people, with hotel personnel, cleaning personnel, restaurant personnel, bar girls, waiters in the clubs, taxi drivers, etc...and the majority of the working class in Mexico does not speak English. Proportionally, there are probably more English Speaking people in Monterrey than in any other major city in Mexico, not-withstanding the resort areas. But, the number of English speaking persons in Monterrey is still very few.

If this is your first time into Mexico, because of the language barrier, you will feel a little on edge the entire time you are there unless you have someone to look out for you. It's just kind of difficult to negotiate life without language skills, and for the period of time you are there, you will feel relatively isolated. If you do choose to come to Monterrey, and you are willing to deal with the language barrier, then I suggest you study some basic Spanish so you can at least manuever around a little without feeling totally isolated.

I would suggest that you post that you are heading to Monterrey a couple of weeks, or maybe even a month or so prior to actually going there. I'm sure that if some of us are going to be in Monterrey, we would undoubtedly welcome having you tag along with us to the various clubs. However, speaking for myself, I don't know whether I will specifically be there around Thanksgiving or not. It's just too far out on the schedule to know for sure yet.

Secondly, I would recommend that you request that Carlos Perez, of this board's fame, send you his maps, which are absolutely neccessary to having a good time in Monterrey if you are a newbie. Without those maps, you will be lost, and I doubt very seriously if you will even scratch the surface of what is truly available. There have been many a monger venture down to Monterrey without the benefit of Carlos' maps, and they DO NOT really know anything about what is truly available.

Regarding transportation options, personally, I prefer to fly into Monterrey, although it is quite a bit more expensive. You can take the bus to Monterrey from the border for about $22 one way, and there are numerous luxury buses traveling between Monterrey and Laredo/Nuevo Laredo, McAllen/Reynosa, and Brownsville/Matamoros. There are main bus stations on both sides of the border, so you can board on the US side, and they will usually connect at the bus station on the Mexico side to pick up passengers before continuing on to Monterrey.

Just call or visit the main bus stations in those border cities, and they will give you the fares and schedules. However, I've found that when calling the bus companies on the US side of the border, you sometimes have almost as much of a problem finding an English speaking employee that can answer your questions about fares and schedules.

The buses all arrive in the main part of downtown Monterrey, at the central bus station, just blocks from where all the club action is. So, from that perspective, it is very easy to ride the bus into Monterrey, stay in a hotel close to the bus station, and coordinate your activites all within about a 20 block area. The main bus station is on Avenida Madero in downtown Monterrey. If you do ride the bus into town, don't get off at the satellite station, which they sometimes stop at first on the way downtown to let off passengers. Just sit tight until you get downtown and pull into a large bus station with numerous other buses parked in their slots.

Riding the bus takes a little longer, between 4-6 hours between the border and Monterrey, depending upon which of the border cities you depart from, and it requires you to arrange for your visa prior to entering Mexico. Conversely, when you to fly into Monterrey, the airlines make entry into Monterrey a little less complicated because you are issued a visa upon entry as you clear customs.

I recommend you bring your US passport with you, but for now, I think a valid birth certificate is still an acceptable proof of US citizenship, at least until the first of the year, I think. You need to double check all the immigration requirements prior to coming down just to make sure you won't have any problems. The airlines sometimes are pretty strict about requiring a passport, but technically a birth certificate is supposed to suffice for now, I think.

As for hotel recommendations, I recommend you stay at Hotel Plaza Del Arco, the tried and true accomodation for most of us most of the time. It is located at Madero and Pino Suarez in downtown Monterrey, just a few blocks East of the Main bus station, and within just a couple of blocks, within walking distance, of most of the action.

I Luv Puss

07-15-06, 06:06

I think for a newbie, it will be better just for the short time like getting your nutz off for cheap. :)

I can't believe the price reported by you mongers. It so low compare to Houston SW, SPA. Etc. That make you wanna pay the gringo's price! Of course that just stupid. Life is about getting the best for cheap.

I'm thinking going to Monterrey for the Labor day weekend to get the feel of it then make another trip during Thanksgiving. I don't know yet. Does any of you guys plan to go during Labor day weekend? From the reports, it sound like you can pretty much touch and let your hand go all over strippers body without much of objection unlike in you. S. If you pay for a lap dance, can you pretty much have sex with girls or you have to pay extra?

Thanks

Member #3453

07-15-06, 17:27

I enjoy the "privados" (private dances) at the clubs. But, I rarely get full service there because I prefer to bar fine the girls and bring them back to my hotel. So, consequently, my price estimates below may be a little off, but they are generally correct.

The "privado" experience is relatively uncomfortable. In other words, the act takes place in a small dark cubicle, usually one that is relativel dingy and dirty, and not terribly romantic or appealing. You sit in a straight back chair, and she will let you enter from behind, bent over, or sit on your lap. It kind of equates with "doing it" in an alley. But, it can be relatively cheap, and you have the choice of some very beautiful girls. It all depends on how long you take to finish.

First, you can buy a "privado," which is a private dance, for 50 pesos (slightly under $5US). The private dance lasts 4 minutes. You will be lead to an open cubicle where she will do a private dance and offer extras. During the dance, you can feel them up, suck their boobs, kiss them, etc...you can do all of that you want in the privado cubicles for 50 pesos over the span of the (4) minute private dance. They will sometimes even permit you to finger them. It just depends on what the particular girl allows. Most do not permit fingering, but some do, maybe 30% of them, more or less.

I have even had a girl give me a hand job free in the privados, and some experienced guys in Monterrey have had free condomless sex in the privados. But, that is a very rare, almost non-existent occurence. Needless to say, the enthusiasm of the girl is a major factor in whether you get a really outstanding privado experience, or just a mediocre one. But, you can expect the girls to usually provide their service covered, and to charge you for everthing they possibly can.

During the private dance, the girls will offer extras. If you want them to suck you off only, I believe it usually costs 200 pesos (slightly under $20US). If you want full service, plus sucking, I think it's usually 400 pesos (slightly under $40US). Expect everything to be performed with condoms. Keep in mind that in addition to the fee for sucking and/or full service, you are also paying the cost of each 4-minute privado song that is being played while you are in the privados.

Each four minute segment is another 50 pesos ($5US). So, the longer you take to get off, the more it will cost you. Obviously, if you take a full half hour in the privados to get off, it will cost you another 375 pesos ($37.50US). So, if you do the math, you can see that the price can escelate the longer you stay in the privados. Admittedly, taking a half hour to get off is a long time, but time seems to really fly by in the privados. Sometimes, the resulting bill can be quite a shock. If the girl is skillful, she can delay you long enough to cost you some dinero in the end.

So, if you are having full service performed, and you were to spend a half hour there, the total cost would amount to approximately 775 pesos ($77.50US). So, I've concluded that you are better off going to the massage parlors than you are spending too much time in the privados.

I like the privados because I can see a lot of girls for numerous 4-8 minute "feel-up" sessions each, experiencing a wide range of different girls. But, I rarely spend any money for full service in the privados. It's just too expensive. But, of course, the quicker you're able to "finish" the cheaper it is.

My problem is, I just like to romance the girls too much. I like to talk to them, spend more time with them, rather than just to engage in just the act by itself with no additional interaction. So, I frequently spend 1350 pesos to bar fine them, and bring them to my hotel. I get to know them really well in that hotel environment, and I dare say, many of the girls I have bar fined are more like girlfriends when they're with me. But, that's the kind of treatment I enjoy, except it can also yield a lot more drama somtimes.

The girls get possessive once you bar fine them, and the more you bar fine them, the more possessive they seemingly become. Obviously, this is not really too much of an issue in the privados or the massage parlors. However, once the girl establishes you as her client, even in the privado setting, possessiveness is also pretty common. Once they mark you as a client, they expect you to take them up to the privados, and they don't particularly like the idea that you might be spending money, "their" money, on other girls.

Another option is that you can visit some of the numerous massage parlors in Monterrey, where you can get full service on a relatively comfortable elevated massage table, in a relatively clean environment, for a much longer period of time, usually 30-45 minutes.

The cost for the medium level massage parlor experience is between 300-500 pesos ($30-$50US). The selection of girls from the massage parlors that are medium priced is usually a notch below what is available in the strip clubs. But, there are usually a couple of relatively attractive girls to choose from at the medium level massage parlors.

At the high end massage parlors, you will have the same level of quality girls that are available in the strip clubs, but the cost will usually be between $65-$85US (650-850 pesos). However, sometimes massage girls, even if they are really quite beautiful, do not have the personalities that a strip club girl typically has. Strip club girls make their money from charming you into buying them drinks, etc...and they are just typically more charming than massage girls.

Hope that helps...Enjoy!

Regio Guero

07-16-06, 15:29

I love Unospongbob's reports. What a great storyteller, and chock full of information. One small correction though, the main bus station is on Colon, two blocks north of Madero. Probably doesn't make any difference but just in case it helps somebody. Looking forward to more reports.

Regio Guero

Acatman

07-16-06, 20:22

Hello guys, i hope i am posting this in the right place, if not please excuse me. I would like to any one that will be in Monterry the days i am. August 9 to the 14.

Member #3453

07-17-06, 02:03

Regio Guero,

You are so right...I stand corrected. I let my brain get ahead of me on that one. Don't mean to lead anyone astray, so I am glad you corrected that little tidbit of information.

I am planning to be in Monterrey 7/29-8/5, so unfortunately, Sr. Acatman will just miss me. I recommend that anyone visiting Monterrey get the set of maps from Carlos Perez. They may be on this site somewhere, archived, but I don't know where exactly.

Have fun!!!

I Luv Puss

07-17-06, 05:53

I tried to pm him but I havn't got any response yet.

Can someone who have a map pm me and send it to me?

I Luv Puss

07-17-06, 06:18

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=430

From this thread, member Fayce Paynter say it's illegal in that town.

Is prostitution legal in Mexico or depend on which town you go?

Member #3453

07-17-06, 11:26

illegality is a relative term...the prostitution statutes in mexico are different than in the us. in other words, prostitution, at least in monterrey, has to do with pimping of girls, street walking, public solicitation, etc...

the policia may become involved where there are **** violations, licensing violations in the clubs, when a girl lacks a health card, which is a government permit to work in the bar, etc...

but, what goes on inside the massage parlors, and between consenting adults, both inside and outside the clubs, and/or in the massage parlors, is not considered prostitution by the authorities in monterrey. there may be variances to the mexican law in other states and cities in mexico, but i kind of doubt it. this activity goes on all over mexico with very little intervention coming from mexican law enforcement.

the monterrey politicians do not want girls walking the streets, so those laws regulating street walking and open solicitation, seem to be effectively enforced. there is only one very small stroll area in monterrey, on avenida colon i believe, and the policia attend to that situation often and pretty effectively. the politicians don't want prostitution thrust in the face of their citizenry, nor do that want it in plain view of visitors to the area. but, what goes on in the clubs is not a problem.

if the policia raid the clubs, which happens on occassion, usually on a friday or saturday night, there is never any problem with "prostitution" per se. they are sweaping the clubs for illegal drug possession, weapons possession, health card (work permit) violations, **** girls, and for "wanted" drug trafficers. prostitution is not even an issue. there is literally no correlation between what we expect from the police in the us, and the enforcement efforts of the policia in mexico.

with respect to carlos, give him about a week or so. i just happen to know that he's out of touch right now, and unavailable. he's not answering email and/or pm's because he can't do so right now. i just talked to him last night via cell phone. he should be back at it again sometime next week. when he gets back, i'm sure he'll take care of you. he has the maps on his computer, and it's easier for him to point and click than it is for me to scan them into my system.

I Luv Puss

07-17-06, 18:48

Another member have offer to send me the maps.

Thank for clearing up the legal issue, i don't want to get busted and spend my days in Mexico jail 'cause of type the "fun" that i seek.

MonterreyDude

07-19-06, 17:53

Wastedman will be here on those dates, toghether with his shotgun compadre.

Hello guys, i hope i am posting this in the right place, if not please excuse me. I would like to any one that will be in Monterry the days i am. August 9 to the 14.

Sap21

07-20-06, 21:22

I am looking for the maps too! I sent pm but only have 1/2 day in MTY left. I came here on short notice.

MonterreyDude

07-21-06, 02:53

I have already sent you my maps and my mobile phone number if you want to contact me.
Be glad to help you out...

I am looking for the maps too! I sent pm but only have 1/2 day in MTY left. I came here on short notice.

Commonglass

07-22-06, 16:18

What's the best place to pick up some Vitamin V (Viagra)? I'd prefer something close to Matehuala, but can be flexible if necessary. Late hours would be another bonus.

Thanks!

Tyson

MonterreyDude

07-23-06, 05:45

the Soriana foodcenter drugstores sell it for less than others.
There is a Soriana 2 blocks North of the Matehuala.

What's the best place to pick up some Vitamin V (Viagra)? I'd prefer something close to Matehuala, but can be flexible if necessary. Late hours would be another bonus.

Thanks!

Tyson

I Luv Puss

07-23-06, 20:07

If you purchase at Mexico, are you allow to bring them back to U.S.?

El Cabron 007

07-24-06, 05:25

technically, you are not allowed to bring in prescription drugs without a prescription. it's really up to customs agent to either confirep001e the pills and mark you for the rest of your life or let you through with a slab on the rest. that is, of course, if the customs either finds them on you or you declare them. if you do not declare them and they find them, it would not look good. if you declare them, they may simply take them away without writing you up.

and i speak from experience. the lady was nice to let me through with a warning. otherwise, if marked, you will be searched every time you enter the us.

if you purchase at mexico, are you allow to bring them back to u.s.?

I Luv Puss

07-24-06, 05:48

I guess that's a no no.

MonterreyDude

07-24-06, 08:07

It is a no-no...
Well, you can buy them a just use them here....

I guess that's a no no.

Member #3453

07-24-06, 12:47

I have heard that you can bring up to a 60 days supply of medication back from a foreign country through customs provided you have a doctors prescription, either from your doctor in the US, or from a doctor in the foreign destination.

So, couldn't you simply pay a couple of pesos for a Mexican doctor to write you a prescription? Perhaps Carlos can elaborate on the cost of doing that. I know that in the border towns, you can get a Mexican doctor's prescription for very little money, but I don't know the going rate for script in Monterrey. If you have a prescription from a doctor in Mexico, I don't think you will be challenged for having any medication in your possession at the US border.

Here are the other optional Unospongebob's Smuggling 101 techniques...

If you have a prescription bottle for viagra and/or cialis, or whatever, you can bring it with you. You should be able to fill the empty bottle up to the quantity indicated on the bottle, and not have any problems bringing them back into the US.

My problem has always been the ancient dates on the bottles. But, hey, just tell them you have a low sex drive, and you haven't "had any" since 2002, LOL!!! Another problem is being overzealous in your buying habits, and filling the bottle with three times the number of pills indicated on the label :-) How do you explain that one???

My theory about bringing it back in an old prescription bottle is, how could they proove that the viagra you bought in Mexico, and filled in your old prescription bottle, isn't old medication, which you would austencibly have a prescription for on file with your doctor in the USA? There would be no way of proving you had bought it in Mexico, and were smuggling it into the USA. If there's no proof, there's no case. But, more importantly, they would have no cause to detain you with no proof that you are smuggling it in. But, as Wastedgman indicated, I suppose they could always flag you for future scrutiny.

The truth is, the cost of viagra in Mexico is higher than it is at Walmart in the USA. You would be buying it from Mexico strictly for the convenience of not having to see your doctor for subsequent prescriptions.

There are other important and desireable medications that are much more important, and cheaper to obtain in Mexico than viagra and/or cialis. I like having Azithromiacin in my arsenal for when I get a bad upper respiratory infection back in the USA during the winter months, and I want to self medicate.

I literally hate going to the doctor, and paying the $60-$80 doctors visit for a doctor to guess at an antibiotic, which is what 90% of them do. I"M A GOOD GUESSER TOO! And, I prefer to save the $60-$80 I would otherwise have to spend to get a prescription for the antibiotic, one that I am almost sure they will be prescribing for my upper respiratory condition anyway, and guessing at it to boot.

But, I have had one occassion where a particular antibiotic was not the answer, and I had to try another. So, I prefer to have a range of them in my arsenal. The bottom line is, if your self medication doesn't seem to work, then you will have to see your physician so he can prepare a culture to determine the exact antibiotic that will be effective. But, 90% of the time Azithromiacina is what is prescribed, and 90% of the time it is the antibiotic that's going to be effective with most cases of upper respiratory problems.

If you are concerned about picking up STD's, and you want to self medicate, then Cipro, Azithromiacin, and Doxycycline are all available over the counter in Mexico, and cheaper than in the US.

If you purchase anything, you should break it down to it's simplest form. Get rid of the box it comes in, and only bring back the pills in their blister pack. Those will lay flat in your suitcase, and they're pretty easy to hide in the suitcase lining. I don't think that even a drug dog, were they to go to the extreme of using one, will hit on viagra, cialis, or the antibiotics.

If you hide them well in your suitcase, they probaby aren't going to find them, and if they do, you can just tell them you bought the antibiotics legally in Mexico to treat an exisiting condition from a germ you picked up in Mexico, something that is common to the Gringo experience. Of course, your excuse for the Viagra/Cialis is another matter :-)

Dan D Dick

07-24-06, 14:48

Last time I came back from Mexico the customs guy asked if I had bought anything. I simply said "nothing but a bunch of antibiotics" & he waived me through. On a different note, I've come through customs >200 times with more than my legal limit of booze - sometimes as much as 6-8 bottles in my carry-on alone. I always noted on the cards "misc. souvinirs & liquor" and have been waived through every time but once - coming back from Canada when I thought the customs guy was a ******* I told him so. [duh!] That time they took me out of line, I spent about 15 minutes filling out paperwork and paid about $5 a bottle for the tax & kept the liquor. Big deal (and he was a *******, so it was worth it).

Bottom line - if you're not bringing back so much that they'd think you'd be distributing the drugs I see zero problems & wouldn't waste my time worrying about it. I would not, however, put "Viagra" on the customs cards, I just put the normal "misc. souvinirs - $200" on it & let it fly. Even when I paid the tax, customs didn't thoroughly search by suitcase. So spread 'em out (but don't make it look like you're deliberately trying to conceal them) & head on across. Also consider simply putting a bunch in your pocket. It's extremely rare to get patted down (like almost never if you're a US citizen) & even if you do you simply forgot they were in your pocket when you got on the plane - here, let me put them up now.

As to the drug dogs, there's two types - the ones looking for foodstuffs (usually hounds & beagles) like meats, cheezes, fruits, etc. And there's the narcotics dogs - often labs. Neither could care less about your antibiotics or ED drugs. And yes, I have had them sniff me & my belongings and there wasn't a hit. Most of the time you won't see the narcotics dogs because they'll sniff the luggage on the tarmac before it gets put on the conveyor (if the luggage is unusually late & you're coming back from Jamaica - like I was this weekend - odds are that's the reason). Every once in a while you'll see an officer on the jetway with his dog but it's kinda rare. I have no interest in the illicit drugs so I could care less. If that's your interest, I would recommend you procure them locally.

Whatever you do, don't worry about the "legal limit" of liquor. Buy what you want, whether it's none or half a dozen bottles, & head on across. I used to collect local liquors from countries we visited, but now with >200 bottles of liquor taking up space in my shrinking home I've decided to put my interests elsewhere. Sorry I digress.

Dan D.

Member #3453

08-01-06, 05:17

I noticed that Hotel Patricia now has in-room punch pad style safes. Only problem is, mine is locked shut, and the night man doesn't know how to open it. So, I can't open it, much less set it with my own combination. An in-room safe for your valuables is a really nice feature for a mongerer to have available to him. Plaza Del Arco hasn't caught onto that little amenity yet.

I just happend to know the owner of Hotel Patricia, a young female owner at that. It's interesting that a young female has apparently seen the merit in making one's valuables safe. I'm sure she isn't taking the mongerer's viewpoint...or maybe she is hip afterall...who knows.

Having a safe in the room just brings all those wonderful memories flooding back, memories of Thailand, the PI, Cambodia, Indonesia, my apartment in Cartegena...all the great mongering paradises of the world include in-room safes, or at least safes that are monitored at the front desk. Almost every hotel, and most renting apartments in the mongerdom capitals of the world, have in-room safes. It's nice to see someone in Monterrey is getting with the program!

Most of the girls I bar fined these days are "trustees," and I feel very little concern over them stealing something. I usually put the valuables away or hidden, just to reduce any temptation. I am their long term meal ticket, and most of them are smart enough to understand that stealing and an established client base do not mix. So, I have very little problem with theft these days. I just don't seem to have to worry too much about it. But, on occassion, when you bring a new girl back with you, it's nice to have the in-room safe to secure any temptations that you might have in the room. And, of course, it's nice to be able to lock your stuff up during the day when the staff might come prowling around, although I have had absolutely no problem with the staff, not here at Hotel Patricia, or Plaza Del Arco.

So far, I have had absolutely no problems what-so-ever in bringing girls to my room at Hotel Patricia. However, there are mostly "respectable" types staying her, women, children, families, etc...and sometimes, when I am walking my date out of the building, I get some all knowing looks from the front desk, and even occassionally from the other guests. So, I am careful to be as discrete as possible. But, that can be difficult when a middle aged dude is walking an absolutely gorgeous professional stripper through the gauntlet.

There was a young, "respectable" girl sitting in the Mezanine the other night working on her laptop, and I walked my date out the door of my room and down the hall toward the Mezanine. When "respectable girl" saw me with "less-than-respectable" girl, there was no mistaking her reaction. It was obvious to her what must be going on, and she did not crack a smile or act embarassed. She held a firm, stern, demeanor, and was visibily disgusted with the prospect that I must have been screwing a 21 year old girl in my room...shame, shame, shame!!!

The next morning I saw "respectable girl" when I was in the restaurant. I just smiled at her congenially, as to say good morning, nothing more, just good morning...she did not crack a smile or warm up, not even the least little bit. So, the lesson is, try to be as descrete as you can possibly be. If you aren't descrete enough, it will follow you around like a bad smell! Do I care??? Hell No!!! But, why tempt fate here when I have a good thing going. I must be more careful.

I am always careful NOT to put my arms around the girls, take their hands, paw them in any way, etc...I just don't want to call attention to myself, or to them, for their sake, so they are not embarassed by the "walk of shame." Some of the girls, my best ones, just don't care, and they take my hand, hug me publicly, kiss me on the mouth for all to see, rubbing my back, etc...and, then there are some girls that are strictly business, and they really don't appreciate that kind of attention. I certainly undestand the girls that have a need to be descrete about what they do for a living, but it's even nicer to have some girls treat you like they are feeling genuine affection for you. Those are always the best bar fines, and they hold a special place...yes, a special place in my heart.

So far, I've bar fined two girls since I arrived here Saturday night. When I got in Saturday night, I just went for a few privados, and bought some drinks and talked to my special "favorita" girl over at Pasarelas. I was tired from the plane trip, and didn't bring a girl back with me on Saturday night. But, Sunday night and Monday night have been great. Both girls could not have performed better.

Tonight's girl, Monday night, was absolutely GFE in every respect. With her, she contacted me via email, knowing I was arriving this week, and asked me to "please call her" for a salida. So, I called her tonight around 5:30pm, and she came to the hotel, avoiding the cost of a salida altogether. She cost me 1000 pesos, which is under $100, and she stayed from 7pm to 10pm. She is supposed to come back for todo la noche on Wednesday night...we'll see how that turns out. She would have stayed with me all night tonight, but she had to work...que lastima!!!

Frankly, I am really starting to see the merits of bar fining versus spending any money on taking too many privados, buying silly drinks, etc...unless of course, you are with your amigos, and you're socializing. But, otherwise, I seem to spend far less by just bar fining them, or arranging an outcall. The later is sometimes more difficult to arrange. You really have to be skilled at reading the girl to know whether she will be reliable and show up. So far, I am doing quite well with those odds. If you're willing to spend the money on a salida, then you cut down your odds at experiencing disappointment considerably compared to outcalls like I did tonight.

I suppose you have to spend some money on privados and drinks at first to establish you harem. But, once the harem is established, you can really do quite nicely from a reliable selection of previously qualified contestants. So, I seem to be spending less money these days, and getting more perverbial "bang for the buck" from the bar fines.

Hopefully there will be more to come over the next few days...

MonterreyDude

08-01-06, 06:13

Andale!!!

PS: For you readers of this Thread, "Andale" this is a running gag between Unspongebob and yours truly. "Andale" means lots of things here in Mexico and can be used in many different ways too. In this instance "Andale" means "WOW!!!!"

I noticed that Hotel Patricia now has in-room punch pad style safes. Only problem is, mine is locked shut, and the night man doesn't know how to open it. So, I can't open it, much less set it with my own combination. An in-room safe for your valuables is a really nice feature for a mongerer to have available to him. Plaza Del Arco hasn't caught onto that little amenity yet.

I just happend to know the owner of Hotel Patricia, a young female owner at that. It's interesting that a young female has apparently seen the merit in making one's valuables safe. I'm sure she isn't taking the mongerer's viewpoint...or maybe she is hip afterall...who knows.

Having a safe in the room just brings all those wonderful memories flooding back, memories of Thailand, the PI, Cambodia, Indonesia, my apartment in Cartegena...all the great mongering paradises of the world include in-room safes, or at least safes that are monitored at the front desk. Almost every hotel, and most renting apartments in the mongerdom capitals of the world, have in-room safes. It's nice to see someone in Monterrey is getting with the program!

Most of the girls I bar fined these days are "trustees," and I feel very little concern over them stealing something. I usually put the valuables away or hidden, just to reduce any temptation. I am their long term meal ticket, and most of them are smart enough to understand that stealing and an established client base do not mix. So, I have very little problem with theft these days. I just don't seem to have to worry too much about it. But, on occassion, when you bring a new girl back with you, it's nice to have the in-room safe to secure any temptations that you might have in the room. And, of course, it's nice to be able to lock your stuff up during the day when the staff might come prowling around, although I have had absolutely no problem with the staff, not here at Hotel Patricia, or Plaza Del Arco.

So far, I have had absolutely no problems what-so-ever in bringing girls to my room at Hotel Patricia. However, there are mostly "respectable" types staying her, women, children, families, etc...and sometimes, when I am walking my date out of the building, I get some all knowing looks from the front desk, and even occassionally from the other guests. So, I am careful to be as discrete as possible. But, that can be difficult when a middle aged dude is walking an absolutely gorgeous professional stripper through the gauntlet.

There was a young, "respectable" girl sitting in the Mezanine the other night working on her laptop, and I walked my date out the door of my room and down the hall toward the Mezanine. When "respectable girl" saw me with "less-than-respectable" girl, there was no mistaking her reaction. It was obvious to her what must be going on, and she did not crack a smile or act embarassed. She held a firm, stern, demeanor, and was visibily disgusted with the prospect that I must have been screwing a 21 year old girl in my room...shame, shame, shame!!!

The next morning I saw "respectable girl" when I was in the restaurant. I just smiled at her congenially, as to say good morning, nothing more, just good morning...she did not crack a smile or warm up, not even the least little bit. So, the lesson is, try to be as descrete as you can possibly be. If you aren't descrete enough, it will follow you around like a bad smell! Do I care??? Hell No!!! But, why tempt fate here when I have a good thing going. I must be more careful.

I am always careful NOT to put my arms around the girls, take their hands, paw them in any way, etc...I just don't want to call attention to myself, or to them, for their sake, so they are not embarassed by the "walk of shame." Some of the girls, my best ones, just don't care, and they take my hand, hug me publicly, kiss me on the mouth for all to see, rubbing my back, etc...and, then there are some girls that are strictly business, and they really don't appreciate that kind of attention. I certainly undestand the girls that have a need to be descrete about what they do for a living, but it's even nicer to have some girls treat you like they are feeling genuine affection for you. Those are always the best bar fines, and they hold a special place...yes, a special place in my heart.

So far, I've bar fined two girls since I arrived here Saturday night. When I got in Saturday night, I just went for a few privados, and bought some drinks and talked to my special "favorita" girl over at Pasarelas. I was tired from the plane trip, and didn't bring a girl back with me on Saturday night. But, Sunday night and Monday night have been great. Both girls could not have performed better.

Tonight's girl, Monday night, was absolutely GFE in every respect. With her, she contacted me via email, knowing I was arriving this week, and asked me to "please call her" for a salida. So, I called her tonight around 5:30pm, and she came to the hotel, avoiding the cost of a salida altogether. She cost me 1000 pesos, which is under $100, and she stayed from 7pm to 10pm. She is supposed to come back for todo la noche on Wednesday night...we'll see how that turns out. She would have stayed with me all night tonight, but she had to work...que lastima!!!

Frankly, I am really starting to see the merits of bar fining versus spending any money on taking too many privados, buying silly drinks, etc...unless of course, you are with your amigos, and you're socializing. But, otherwise, I seem to spend far less by just bar fining them, or arranging an outcall. The later is sometimes more difficult to arrange. You really have to be skilled at reading the girl to know whether she will be reliable and show up. So far, I am doing quite well with those odds. If you're willing to spend the money on a salida, then you cut down your odds at experiencing disappointment considerably compared to outcalls like I did tonight.

I suppose you have to spend some money on privados and drinks at first to establish you harem. But, once the harem is established, you can really do quite nicely from a reliable selection of previously qualified contestants. So, I seem to be spending less money these days, and getting more perverbial "bang for the buck" from the bar fines.

Hopefully there will be more to come over the next few days...

El Cabron 007

08-01-06, 15:41

Yes, I agree. Being the Spanish language expert that I am. Yes, I am, I know enough to get me in trouble. And I do get in trouble. it usually lasts for a few hours.

Glad to hear you are having a good time Unspongebob. Have you and Carlos gotten together yet? Save some food for the rest of us.

I was at the HEB mall once looking at some flyers at one of the stands. When I was about to leave, I thanked the guy and he replied: "Andale"

I heard it in many forms too. it can also mean "get the f*** out of here", in a nice way as in Eddie Murphy’s "Beverly Hills" or other "far out" phrases.

My ten cents, my two cents is free A nuisance, who sent? You sent for me?

Confirming out get together at the PDA. See you perverts there.

Wasted

Andale!!!

PS: For you readers of this Thread, "Andale" this is a running gag between Unspongebob and yours truly. "Andale" means lots of things here in Mexico and can be used in many different ways too. In this instance "Andale" means "WOW!!!!"

MonterreyDude

08-01-06, 16:44

Andale!!!

Ps: In this instance "andale" means "Ok, I'll see you there" (very versatile this "Andale" word)

Yes, I agree. Being the Spanish language expert that I am. Yes, I am, I know enough to get me in trouble. And I do get in trouble. it usually lasts for a few hours.

Glad to hear you are having a good time Unspongebob. Have you and Carlos gotten together yet? Save some food for the rest of us.

I was at the HEB mall once looking at some flyers at one of the stands. When I was about to leave, I thanked the guy and he replied: "Andale"

I heard it in many forms too. it can also mean "get the f*** out of here", in a nice way as in Eddie Murphy’s "Beverly Hills" or other "far out" phrases.

My ten cents, my two cents is free A nuisance, who sent? You sent for me?

Confirming out get together at the PDA. See you perverts there.

Wasted

Member #3453

08-01-06, 17:07

I think Carlos' "Andale" means "f*** O**!!!" hahahaha!!!

There is in fact no word in the English Language quite like Andale. At first, I was quite confused by the term, which literally translated means "get going." So, you can imagine my horror when the cab driver tells me "andale" as I am exiting his taxi...

In English, it would be considered quite rude to say "get going" after someone just paid you and kindly wished you a "buen noche." Eventually of course, I figured out that the terms was more like "right on," or "go with God," or "cool" (chido), or something like that, LOL!!!!

Now, frankly, l like the term Andale, although I never really use it because I am uncertain as to the circumstance where by using the word I might be offending someone within the wrong context. I need just a little more exposure to the culture to totally appreciate the proper usage of the word in the right circumstances. I notice Carlos using it quite frequently just as he is about the hang up the cell phone. So, I think it's primarily used as a departure greeting, like when we Gringos say "take it easy."

OK, that's your lesson in coloquial Spanish for the day...NOW Andale!!!!!!!!!

El Cabron 007

08-01-06, 17:22

If that's what Caralos means.

:)

Wasted

I think Carlos' "Andale" means "f*** O**!!!" hahahaha!!!

Minnesotah

08-02-06, 04:52

Some people go buying or import by mail their meds in Canada or Mexico. I don't see why you can't do it. As usual, just use your head as you'll do at home and everything should be fine. Per experience, I need medication on a daily basis and my doctor told me as long that I carry the drug with the prescription on the bottle, I won't get hassle at the border. I do and bringing my lunch across the border is harder than my medication...

Member #3453

08-02-06, 13:27

Ok, I've been awake almost all night thinking about last night's bar fine. I just had to get up and tell the story to get it all off of my chest. Some may remember my report from last month about this girl that I have known for about a year now. I had commented in my report last month that she seemed colder toward me last time, and I did not choose to bar fine her last month because I had sensed a slightly staling relationship with her.

Boy!!!!!!!!!!!!! was I mistaken!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I saw this girl again last night in her bar. I walked in the door and there she was standing almost right at the door, almost the first thing you see as you enter the bar. What impressed me was the big, warm, smile she had for me, and the big hug and kiss she gave me when I approached her. Anyway, I stood for a while with her, and within a very short time she pointed up and asked me to take her into the privados.

So I took her upstairs, and while we are in the privados she tells me she wants to spend the entire afternoon with me. She tells me that she can't go with me after 11pm because of her regular job in the morning. But, she says she will go with me on salida, spend the rest of the afternoon, from about 6:00pm to 11:30pm with me. I was not able to bar fine her immediately, and had to return to bar fine her later. I finally got her out of there by about 7:30pm. She literally spent 4 hours with me at the hotel for 1000 pesos, plus the bar fine of 350 pesos. But, if I had not been preoccupied, she would have left the bar around 6:30pm with me, and that would have made a minimum six hour bar fine for 1000 pesos plus the salida fee of 350 pesos.

My experience this time with this girl was nothing less than spectacular. The things this girl said to me while we were together are nothing short of actual novia/novio material...I mean pretty serious romance sort of stuff. I'm talking about real hopes and dreams kinds of stuff, with me in the picture. Frankly, the things she said to me worry me, and make me sad because I know it will NEVER happen. She does not know my true circumstances back in the US, and she is hopeful that their can be more to it than what it is.

Oh, I know what you are thinking...that I am falling for the lines of a very skilled and manipulative bar girl...that I am playing the fool. First off, I respectfully ask that you realize that I am falling for nothing. I WILL NOT fall for anything because I am not in a position to act on anything. I have NO intention of acting on what would otherwise be a genuine impulse to take this kind of "relationship" to the next level.

First off, I can't move to Monterrey, something she has asked me to do repeatedly, and I can't marry her either, something I would NEVER consider, even if she were not a bar girl. She had asked me something in Spanish last night that I did not understand. So, I got the Spanish/English dictionary out. She looked up the word, and she showed me the listing...it said "wedding."

I am simply not able to act on her hopes and dreams, which are seemingly perfectly in line with a girl who might otherwise be a regular legitimate novia. The truth is, this girl has the personality traits and demeanor that I would otherwise fall for. She has certain kinds of personality traits I would marry. Of course, I would never consider marrying a bar girl, nor am I available even if she were not a bar girl. But, none-the-less, I have to admit, she is legitimately tempting because she has the soft spoken, sweet, kind, gentle demeanor that I really fall for. Not to mention the flaca body, really cute face, a totally sexy 22 year old package. And, that brings us to the interesting part.

Because of the chemistry between us, the sex is incredible. This girl was so unbelievably needy for sex with me. It was like she was truly a girlfriend in love. She is kind of a soft spoken screamer when she is having orgasms. She probably had at least 10 orgasms. First with oral sex, and then with conventional sex in positions she was actually suggesting to me. It was like she had not had sex in 6 months. Frankly, I don't understand it, but I like it none-the-less, LOL!!!

Frankly, I am at a loss how a girl can be delivering sex on a daily basis in the privados, and want and need sex with me at with the passion and level of desire she exhibited last night. I am in awe of it. I even ask her about it, and she told me that it is her job in her bar, but that I am "hers" when we go on salida.

I know that makes me sound dilusional, that I am buying her act. But that's what she said, and frankly, if it's an act, it's a damn frickin' GOOD ACT!!! (and, I've seen them all). Plus, you can't act a drenched frickin' bed sheet with puddling. I should have been wearing a life preserver, hahahaha!!!!.

Furthermore, I had to bring up the point of giving her money. She never mentioned any money, did not count it when I gave it to her. She acted like any amount I would have given her would have been fine. It was like the money was not on her mind at all. Believe me, I know how the money is generally the motivator. But, in her case, I did not see that last night, not even a hint of it. As I gave her the money, she said no importa. But, by my giving her money, it keeps the relationship on the right level. So, I always perfer to pay. That way, if I want to go back there and bar fine another girl, I can legitimately do it without feeling like a thief.

But, beyond the sex, the raw emotional affection, and her level of affectionate sexual desire was unsurpassed. Just everything you would ever expect from the term "GFE" was there. I have had no better performance from any girl anywhere else in the world...that includes the mongering capitals of the world...Thailand, the PI, Indonesia, Columbia, Cambodia...none that equals last night. I have had the same level of performance here in Monterrey from a couple of other girls, but they were girls where there was a deeper affectionate relationship between us. I currently have about three girls that have this same level of "desire," and maybe four others where the sex is great, but the emotional committment is still in the developmental stage, but coming along nicely.

Frankly, nowhere in the world has approached the experiences I have literally had in just three days here in Monterrey this time. But, this is NOT a common situation for the average visitor. Frankly, it requires significant work to get that kind of reaction from the girls, something beyond their normal routine delivery of services. I have been coming down here now for almost 5 years, and I have truly honed my edge here.

I feel an obligation to issue a disclaimer by saying that if you are anticipating coming down here and getting the kinds of GFE that are described in my reports, you will probably leave here disappointed. You won't leave disappointed in the sex, but you might leave disappointed in the GFE, if that is your goal.

Somehow, if you want the GFE here, you have to figure out a way to worm your way into their hearts, and penetrate their natural shielding mechanism that keeps them protected. Because of what they do, most of the girls have a thickly valed wall that has them delivering a routine and clinical type of service most of the time. It takes time to penetrate their shielding so they will drop their defenses and open up their heart to you. I have a theory that when a women actually opens her heart to you, that is when you get the best sex you will ever experience, and you will also receive something else, a warm sincere heart felt affection that feels so good.

That's why you typically find a much better experience in places like the PI. The girls deliver a real GFE most of the time in places like SE Asia, Columbia, Rio, etc...and, with the exclusion of Rio, the girls are generally available 24/7 for almost no money. But, here in Monterrey, the opportunity for GFE is available if you live here, you have the money to invest in the salidas, and/or you can visit here on a regular enough basis to form an actual "relationship" with certain girls. But, you have to be available here to form that relationship in order to penetrate the layers of protection they have around their hearts and psyche in order to get GFE.

I know I am sounding self congratulatory when I deliver some of these reports, and I don't mean to come off that way. The truth is, I have only a couple of people that I can relate my concerns to, Carlos, Porker, Woodway, Wastedgman, Mr.L...and frankly, I have been up all night thinking about the things last night's girl said to me. It doesn't matter, because I have about five or six other girls on my dance card...but, I can't help but worry that this sweet young thing is apparently hoping and seriously anticipating something more. Or, maybe we have that "something more" in my occassional visits. I know I am certainly happy!!!

El Cabron 007

08-02-06, 15:27

Should I congratulate you or unleash Carlos on you?

Thanks man for including me and Mr. "L" in your circle of trusted friends. I will include you in mine when you stop eating from my plate :) - J/K.

See you in 36 hours.

Wasted

Boy!!!!!!!!!!!!! was I mistaken!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I saw this girl again last night in her bar. I walked in the door and there she was standing almost right at the door, almost the first thing you see as you enter the bar. What impressed me was the big, warm, smile she had for me, and the big hug and kiss she gave me when I approached her. Anyway, I stood for a while with her, and within a very short time she pointed up and asked me to take her into the privados.

Frankly, I am at a loss how a girl can be delivering sex on a daily basis in the privados, and want and need sex with me at with the passion and level of desire she exhibited last night. I am in awe of it. I even ask her about it, and she told me that it is her job in her bar, but that I am "hers" when we go on salida.

I know I am sounding self congratulatory when I deliver some of these reports, and I don't mean to come off that way. The truth is, I have only a couple of people that I can relate my concerns to, Carlos, Porker, Woodway, Wastedgman, Mr.L...and frankly, I have been up all night thinking about the things last night's girl said to me. It doesn't matter, because I have about five or six other girls on my dance card...but, I can't help but worry that this sweet young thing is apparently hoping and seriously anticipating something more. Or, maybe we have that "something more" in my occassional visits. I know I am certainly happy!!!

MonterreyDude

08-02-06, 16:40

If anyone is unleashed, it's Unspongebob.
Yesterday I got in late for lunch at the Obsession and guess what, my supposedly friend was attacking one of my Lambs of my Sacred Flock.
Unspongebob is dangerous!!!

Should I congratulate you or unleash Carlos on you?

Thanks man for including me and Mr. "L" in your circle of trusted friends. I will include you in mine when you stop eating from my plate :) - J/K.

See you in 36 hours.

Wasted

Member #3453

08-02-06, 19:06

No Sr. Carlos, lets get something straight...she attacked me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Actually, I relinquishd her to your capable hands by latching onto that 19 year old I had my eyes on.

Besides, all they want me for is the cookies...But, it is a great schtick, and it works wonders. Seriously, yesterday in El Obsession, I must have met no less than about 12 girls, 6 of which I was previously unaquainted with.

The aim is to have them fighting over me, and more accurately, the privilege of eating my cookies. My next strategy is to only give cookies to the ones that are willing to sit with me, no drinks, while they consume their treat.

How is that for a Porker style economic strategy. Let's see, one cookie probably cost me about 30 cents, versus the cost of their constant attempts to get me to pay for doubles.

Seriously, yesterday, one of the girls sat with me for at least a half hour as she ate my cookies. When the waiter came over to see if I wanted to buy her a drink, she waived him off like he was a vulture hovering over its prey.

She was perfectly content to sit and talk, eat cookies, have me rub on her a little, smooch, etc...and it only cost me about 60 cents. Not a bad trade-off really.

El Cabron 007

08-02-06, 21:35

I would be careful if I were you Carlos. I know UnospongeBob will devour any female that he sets eyes on. No matter if she belong to one of his trusted friends or not. He eats the green and the brown. :)

Cookies my a$$.

Wasted

No Sr. Carlos, lets get something straight. She attacked me! Actually, I relinquishd her to your capable hands by latching onto that 19 year old I had my eyes on.

Besides, all they want me for is the cookies...But, it is a great schtick, and it works wonders. Seriously, yesterday in El Obsession, I must have met no less than about 12 girls, 6 of which I was previously unaquainted with.

The aim is to have them fighting over me, and more accurately, the privilege of eating my cookies. My next strategy is to only give cookies to the ones that are willing to sit with me, no drinks, while they consume their treat.

How is that for a Porker style economic strategy. Let's see, one cookie probably cost me about 30 cents, versus the cost of their constant attempts to get me to pay for doubles.

Seriously, yesterday, one of the girls sat with me for at least a half hour as she ate my cookies. When the waiter came over to see if I wanted to buy her a drink, she waived him off like he was a vulture hovering over its prey.

She was perfectly content to sit and talk, eat cookies, have me rub on her a little, smooch, etc...and it only cost me about 60 cents. Not a bad trade-off really.

Regio Guero

08-03-06, 15:23

Met the great Unospongebob last night for a few minutes. Even ate a few of the famous cookies. His reports are the greatest. Missed meeting Carlos but hopefully will soon. Hopefully Unospongebob will have a few more reports from his current trip.

Member #3453

08-03-06, 20:19

Last night was another perfect GFE with yet another bar fine. This time, I bar fined one of my steady girls from El Cielo. She left with me about 12 midnight, stayed until 4am, all for the salida plus 1000 pesos.

She is one of my best girlfriends, and consistently delivers a genuine, heartfelt, GFE experience. Again, it is Novia/Novio quality. I know it sounds like I am exagerating these experiences as being total GFE, but really, those who know me well, know how discriminating I am, and just how difficult I am to please with respect to GFE. So, when I say that these are perfect GFE experiences, I am not exagerating or embellishing my experiences. Believe me, I am a real "bitcher" when it comes to bar fines not going well. So, for me to be complimenting the outcome of these most recent bar fines is saying something extraordinary.

This most recent girl last night is one that I asked if she would start seeing me free of charge, LOL!!! I asked just as a joke, just to see what her reaction would be. Anyway, she points to her ring finger, and says, buy me a ring and you get it for free, hahahahaha!!! No frickin way, man! But, the moment was fun as we laughed and joked around over it.

On one of the previous bar fines of another one of my girlfriends, the one working at El Infinito, the one I reported on earlier in the week that stayed 5 hours, she told me just yesterday that she had gotten in pretty serious trouble because she had stayed with me all evening, up until 11:30pm.

It seems her manager told her that she was in trouble, and that in the future, if she was going to stay with me for that length of time I would need to pay a double salida. So, she said that in the future, I would have to pay the bar the double salida if she stayed more than 2 hours.

Mind you, she didn't indicate that she would charge me more for her end of the deal, quite the contrary, but that she would get in trouble if she stayed too long. As far as having her meet me outside the bar, she has not time to do so. She can't usually stay with me after the end of her shift because of her baby, and her regular job which starts early in the morning. So, we have to go on salida during her shift to see each other.

But, she told me that she didn't like the idea of me having to spend the money for a double salida. She said it is too expensive. She is the same girl that would not go to Chilis, or Bennegins, or Applebees because the price of those "designer" style restraurants is too much money. She won't do it, not even if I am paying.

She is one of these girls that scratches out her existence. She can't even afford a television to watch. So, to her, to spend the money on expensive restaurant food is foolish. No, she is only willing to go to one of the local hole in-the-wall places where she can get a reasonably priced meal, but not to a place where the cost would otherwise be about 3 times the price. She is a very frugal girl, even when I am paying. She would not be a bad catch if she weren't a bar girl, one you would undoubtedly have to worry about for the rest of your life, whether she might be screwing around on you or not.

Anyway, when I bar fined the girl last night from El Cielo, the intention was to also take her for longer than the 1.5 hour range of time that the bar normally agrees to. So, she talked to her manager, and he had no problem with it. She stayed with me from midnight to 4am on the dot, in the room, and she had no problem getting it past him.

So, El Cielo and El Infinito are owned by the same owners, and their policies are relatively the same, same cost, same salida, same general procedures, same presentation style, very similiar in every respect. So, it comes down to two things. The manager, and the girls influence with her manager. In the case of my Infinito girl, she has been in hot water with her manager, and was even recently reassigned to another club as punishment. So, she doesn't have the influence that my girl from El Cielo has with her manager.

Got to go to Obsession for the buffet right now...but will submit more commentary later. Stay tuned...

Member #3453

08-03-06, 23:57

My experience is that most of the girls will demand using a condom. However, I would say that it is possible to go sin condom, but not common. Monterrey certainly isn't the PI, or Indonesia, where condom use is the exception. I would plan on using condoms with 80% of the girls that you bar fine in Monterrey, and 99.9% of the girls that deliver services in the clubs will require it.

You have to understand that most of these girls are only permitted to work if they are free from infection, and can pass a health test administered by the goverment here. They must have a health certification to work. Their jobs are extremely important to them. Many of the girls are desperately in need of money. So, their primary motivation in demanding condoms is to protect their jobs. They will be permenantly booted out of their clubs if they catch an STD. Many of the clubs are owned by the same owners, and the girls would not be able to find a job within clubs owned by the same owners. The club world in Monterrey is a very small world indeed.

The remaining 20% of the girls working in the clubs in Monterrey are generally still a hard sell, but it is possible to convince them otherwise if they develop a genuine affection for you. Usually, if they have a genuine affection for you, it's not generally a circumstance where you will be formally asked whether you want to use a condom. They will simply do it with you without bringing up the issue.

Unospongebob

Can you fuck any of these princesses bareback or only with a rubber?

MonterreyDude

08-04-06, 02:30

Sorry I couldn't be there, Regio Guero, but I was doing a "salida" with one of the Lambs of my Sacred Flock belonging to the Infinito.
See you next time sir....

Met the great Unospongebob last night for a few minutes. Even ate a few of the famous cookies. His reports are the greatest. Missed meeting Carlos but hopefully will soon. Hopefully Unospongebob will have a few more reports from his current trip.

MonterreyDude

08-04-06, 02:42

Npaul... you might be asking Unspongebob, but I'll jump in.
I have NOT BB a Mexican working girl since the late 80's... period.
I do NOT dare do that cause you don't have an idea of the kind of trash these girls mix with: waiters, boyfriends, security at the clubs, managers... you take a pick.
Let me tell you that I have been doing my rounds nonstop for 25 years and I have seen a lot and met a lot too.
If the girls want to play Russian Roulette with you, well that will be up to them.
But don't think that you'll find "pristine" p***y here like in SEA.
Monterrey is not Small Town Mexico nor a corrupt battle ground like like the border towns.
You'll notice the differences, BIG differences if you get to come down here.

Unospongebob

Can you fuck any of these princesses bareback or only with a rubber?

Member #3453

08-04-06, 15:58

Actually, SEA is NOT particularly better than Monterrey, or anywhere else in the world, for barebacking safety. Barebacking sex is simply much more widely available in SEA, nothing more. Fact is, bareback is the norm in places like Jakarta, the PI, Batam, Cambodia, and also to a lesser extent, in Pattaya and Bangkok, Thailand.

With respect to controlling the spread of STD's, I am more confident in Monterrey's health requirements than what is otherwise imposed in SEA. In many places, there are literally no safety requirements imposed by the authorities in SEA, at least none that are even remotely reliable.

Frankly, I am comforted that, at least in Monterrey, there is a safety net with respect to the health testing that the girl must go through in order to work in the bar. If the girl contracts a disease, she is barred from working in the bars in the future. So, there is a double check and balance here. First, there are the goverment testing and ID card requirements, plus the girls have greater pressure to maintain a healthy lifestyle if they value their jobs. Most of the girls are desperate for money, so the majority value their jobs significantly. Consequently, they do not succomb to the temptation to bareback for fear that they will lose a very comparatively lucrative earning opportunity, something that is far more serious a loss in Mexico than in the USA.

Even though there may currently be rumors that Matehuela has lost a couple girls to STDs, I suspect the STDs they have picked up are a result of their careless relationships outside the bar, and not something they picked up from patrons. Of course, that doesn't matter where they picked it up. If you do it with girls that do not insist on condoms every time, you can almost bet that you're exposing yourself to a greater risk of contracting an STD, and that you will probably eventually catch something.

Most of my bar fines insist on condom usage. So, from my viewpoint, I appreciate their insistence, and I also like the check and balance that's imposed by a regulated industry in Monterrey, something that is lacking in certain parts of SEA.

Mexican systems are regularly compromised by graft. But, generally speaking, the health checks are a nice added bonus to mongering in Monterrey, and their health licensing requirements seem to be administered and closely monitored to a degree that is more reliable than you might otherwise find in the whole of Mexico when comparing similiar health testing/licensing programs.

Npaul... you might be asking Unspongebob, but I'll jump in.
I have NOT BB a Mexican working girl since the late 80's... period.
I do NOT dare do that cause you don't have an idea of the kind of trash these girls mix with: waiters, boyfriends, security at the clubs, managers... you take a pick.
Let me tell you that I have been doing my rounds nonstop for 25 years and I have seen a lot and met a lot too.
If the girls want to play Russian Roulette with you, well that will be up to them.
But don't think that you'll find "pristine" p***y here like in SEA.
Monterrey is not Small Town Mexico nor a corrupt battle ground like like the border towns.
You'll notice the differences, BIG differences if you get to come down here.

Member #3453

08-05-06, 15:36

Last night was my last full night in Monterrey. I had a couple of things on the agenda, things that I had to take care of before leaving.

First, I wanted to bar fine a new girl for the second time this week from El Infinito. So, around 7pm, I went to El Infinito to find her. Following my intitial bar fine with her earlier in the week, when I would revisit El Infinito, this girl would spend a lot of time hanging around me, hanging on me, not even asking for a drink, but just hanging close to me, caressing my back, talking to me, trying to keep the competition away from me.

She was really showing me noticeably affectionate interest. I suspected that the girl had taken an actual liking to me. Even my friend that had accompanied me on previous nights, Sr. Woodway of this board's fame, had commented that he noticed how she was really hanging so close to me. He was amazed at how I would show attention to so many girls, but how this girl was always noticeably in there trying to stay in front of me. He thought she must be really interested, and it showed in her following me around like a puppy dog.

When I arrived again on Friday night, I was really quite pleased because I did not see any of her jealous competition on duty. They may have been there, but I was able to bar fine her, and sneak her away without anybody being the wiser, which is not usually the case. Usually, I have to deal with all the drama that goes along with having numerous girlfriends in the same place.

Generally, it's a matter of pissing off all my other girlfriends as I bar fine their competition, and then having to back track later in the week to make up. All this ridiculous drama...It is the dance one has to do in order to have multiple girlfriends working the same bar, same shift.

I can never quite understand the female mind. How can they screw in the privados numerous times every night, for months on end between our short visits, and then act like we hombres are "shitheads" because we want a little variety, a male birth right, IMHO. I probably see less girls in one week than the number of hombres my girlfriends screw in one night working in the privados.

I try to explain to them that just because I see other girls doesn't mean I don't like my time with them, or that I have lost confidence in them to provide. It doesn't mean that I don't find them irresistable anymore. I have to reassure them that they are unique to me, and that their personalities are as charming to me as ever...and honestly they are all unique to me, charming to me, and precious in every way.

But the reality is, I think it probably boils down more accurately to an issue of greed on their part, their wanting all of my available funds to themselves. But, with some of the girls, it seems to go beyond that obvious conclusion, and actually the jealousy seems to be something emotional as well. Ain't that sweet???

Anyway, I had a great time with my "puppy dog" girlfriend from El Infinito. It was the second time I had bar fined her. The first time, which was earlier in the week, she was a little reserved, probably as a result of first time nervousness with a new guy. But, subsequent to our initial bar fine, she was showing so much attention when I would revist El Infinito, that I just had to see if it was genuine affection or just an act.

Anyway, between the first time earlier in the week, and tonight, she was really unbelievably affectionate. Before, she was reluctant to do much kissing and hugging, and she was just a little cooler than I like. But, this time, "oh my God," she was so good. She was giving me full mouth kisses, hugs, caresses. It was like she had taken a genuine liking to me after our first encounter. The ice was completely melted, perhaps as a result of our first time together, and now, it seems she had decided that she really actually liked me, A LOT TOO!!!, a perfect combination for GFE.

Anyway she stayed three hours, and I only had to pay puppy dog girl 900 pesos. She seemed perfectly content. Obviously, they want to make more, but lately some of them have been willing to take a little less, austensibly to see "me." Cool!!! But, the reality is, I had paid a double salida to keep her for three hours. The double cost me 500 pesos. So, I paid that to the bar before I left. Then, by giving my bar fine 900 pesos as her fee, the total cost of keeping her for three hours was only costing me a little more than normal for the total cost of the salida and the girl's fee because I paid the girl less on her end.

My strategy lately is to conserve funds by not doing too many privados or buying too many drinks, and cutting right to the chase with the salidas. I am actually spending less than before because those privados can get pretty damned expensive. It doesn't take long to rack up an additional 150 pesos, the difference between a 1.5 hour salida at 350 pesos, and a 3 hour salida at 500 pesos, so why not dispense with so may privados, and just plow the money into extending the salida time to 3-4 hours. Plus if you can eventually get the girl to accept, say 800 pesos, then you are paying about the same as you would have paid before and getting twice as much time with them.

Frankly, if these bars insist on boosting the bar fine by charging me more for a little extra time, the balance of the ransom, at least partially, is going to come out of the girl's end. If the girls don't want to accept those terms, there are numerous other candidates that are willing to accept the terms. Maybe the girls will start to apply some influence on the bars to refrain from fucking the Gringo so much. But, on the other hand the bar is giving me a discount because the normal double salida would otherwise have been 700 pesos. So, I have to weigh all the factors before I shoot myself in the foot by acting too independent. This is just the kind of circumstance where giving the bar manager some of my home made cookies might result in unforeseen advantages to the Gringo.

As a side note, yesterday afternoon, when Woodway and I visited El Obsession, the manager, who I provide with my delicious home made cookies almost every trip, had the chef prepare breaded mushrooms and fried cheese appetizers, which they brought to our table, unsolicited by us, free of charge. No other table got free appetizers...believe me!!! So, perhaps I need to work that same kind of magic on the management at El Infinito, El Cielo, Givenchi, etc...to get a little more kind consideration.

Concern #2: On Wednesday night I had bar fined one of my regular girls from El Cielo. I will call her girl #1. She has gone with me probably (5) or (6) times, and she is always a really good bar fine, showing lots of affection, etc...Anyway, the dilemma is that I met a second girl at El Cielo on my last trip, and I had been corresponding with her via email, and she had actually come to my hotel, outcall, on the Monday or Tuesday, I don't exactly remember which day.

But, it was nice because she came to my hotel and I didn't have to pay a salida fee that day to see here. Anyway, these two girls work side by side, same shift at El Cielo, and both girls are really quite possessive. Both of them show considerable jealousy whenever I pay any attention to another girl. Anyway, on the night that I was bar fining girl #1, girl #2 was there working, and when girl #2 saw me, she came over like a shot to greet me.

I immediately told her that I was taking girl #1 on a salida. Girl #2 was really quite angry with me. But, I had to tell her because she was going to see what I was up to, and I just thought it wiser to let her know the score. But, she became really quite mad. If looks could kill...right?

Anyway, I tried talking to her, but she just told me to go sit down away from her. So, I went back to my seat and sat down, waited for girl #1, and when she came down, away we went. I knew that I would have to repair my relationship with girl #2 at the first opportunity. So, my plan was to revisit there on Friday night, and to devote my attention to girl #2 in the privados.

So, last night I returned to see girl #2. I waited quite a while for her to finish because she was occupied with another dude who had bought her a couple of drinks and taken her up to the privados. I probably had to wait for her about 45 minutes. During this time, girl #1 who was also working the same shift, would pop in and out of view, engaging me a couple of times to see what I was up to. Eventually, I just told her I was there to "talk" to my amiga, girl #2. Girl #1 seemed to accept it, but she is also very jealous, and acts hurt when I pay any attention to another girl.

But, when you have two girls somewhere, you just have to make them understand that you are NOT MARRIED to them. I have been following this same scenario over at El Infinito, and it is finally working to my advantage. I have no less than (7) girls that want my attention at El Infinto, and they will jump at the chance to get some of the lucrative bar fine money, especially during the slow days of the week. So, they will not only put up with it, but they will try harder to be selected if they know you have other immediate options.

So, believe me, it is the money they are after. They may still "love you" to death, and the may think that they really do love their time with you, but ultimately, the bottom line is that you are their opportunity to make money. Really the money and the affection do not neccessarily contradict one another. I mean, if the shoe were on the other foot, wouldn't it be cool to be able to screw the most beautiful girls, girls that you might actually like a lot, and get paid for it. That is the position these girls are in. What a blast it must be if she is a nymphomaniac!!!

All the drama is just a distraction to me, and I've decided that I'm doing what I want to do, with whomever I choose to spend money on, and if they do not perform to expectation, they will be out of the rotation. I applied this same principle to one of my real favorites at El Infinito on my last trip, and she did not get a bar fine from me that entire week I was here. I missed her so much deep down inside. She is so charming to me. This time, when I did bar fine her, her attitude and performance was right back up to par once again. It was really unsurpassed this time, really!!!

So, back to El Cielo...I talked to girl #2 in the privados, reassured her of her dominant place in my heart, and wallet, LOL!!! She made me promise to bar fine her when I come back in a month. She expressed her undying love, and her attraction to me for real. Again, ain't that sweet!!! So, when I return in a few weeks, she will be at the top of my list. She made me promise to email and to think of her while I was gone from Monterrey. Of course I will think of her, and about 10 others. But, the reality is, I was not lying to her, she is very charming, and I actually like her personality a lot.

But......I remember smooching with her on the steps down from the privados. I remember we were standing there delaying our departure to the first floor, and savoring the last moments with each other by standing together on the landing, smooching, hugging, etc...Just like a couple of love struck teenagers. Frankly, it was great!!! Anyway, during this time, I could sense the other girls going down and up the stairs to the privados, not paying particular attention to whom the girls were in particular. So, as girl #2 and I finally departed the landing for the first floor, as we walked toward the stage, I notice immediately behind me is girl #1, following me!!! (Aye Chihuahua), watching my every move. I did not look at her face, but I sensed that if she had been armed, I would have been history. At least she saw that I left without bar fining girl #2, a definite consoling factor I'm sure. Oh well, girl #1 will still be there, dutifully waiting to collect her money on the next salida, and eager to get some lovin' on top of it. Life is Good, indeed!!!