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Romano V
01-28-08, 20:21
Best way, you rent a car. But I don`t think these drug addicted girls are worth to go there. I think it is better, if you go to the strip bar at the train station in Dnepropetrovsk and try to get a girl there for you.

Sex portal : http://www.sex.dp.ua/index.php

There is a Bomba club near Dnipropetrovsk

If you are interested by some girls 18-20 yo in Dnepropetrovsk just send me a PM and i will reply you with the number of the phone. generally in this city you can find attractive girls for 40$ per hour and 150$ the night.

Here the sex portal of this city : http://www.sex.dp.ua/index.php
Yulia does vey good massages body plus sex. 1 hour 200 grn = 30 € and 200 $ the overnight. Roleplays (teacher-schoolgirl)

And Elina, Nastiucha, girl 200 grn/h, Elena prekrasnaya 300 grn/h and 400$ the full night.

I just been in contact with these girls by internet and i never been yet in Dnepro.
I wish to visit the city in 2008 if you are interested by a wingman let me know.

Romano V
02-13-08, 23:55
I am in Dnipropetrovsk now and the beginning is that is see very beautiful girls on Karl Marks street, women do anal for 350 hrn per hour and i have a prostitute in my flat for 250 hrn an hour or 250 $ a night. I think it's expensive a low quality. Here you can see my first prostitute in Dnipro she is only 26 yo but on the photo you see that she is like a 50 yo streetwalkers she is chubby but i have great time with 2 CIM and a perfect CIF in just one hour, that's enought with this kind of woman. I am here only for teens and it's very difficult to find them for my beginning. The girls work on Kirova prospect, i choose the girl Tanya that you can see in photos here. She was drenched and i penetrate her on the table but no anal. Just 3 girls were available tonight and be careful some girls will give you false numbers but i booked tonight Tanya and i called the manager "worker" Lera for it because she undestand me by phone. Tanya is a blonde she does DFK, she sucks my nuts very good. Next time i will try a girl more younger.

See you tomorrow.

Rate : 6

She was very obedient she puts on her knees to suck my dick and she takes my nuts freshly shaved in her mouth. I spanked her slowly and i liked her fat red ass.

Romano V
02-14-08, 10:03
Prostitutes ask really for incredible prices there because they want 50$ for an hour in your apartment, I will try saunas later to compare if it's a cheapest solution or not. Now I wish to take a full night with a 18-20 yo girl for today because it's Valentine's day and each year I am alone in my hotel room but now I have apartment in Dnipro centre www.mystay.org they rent it 40$ per day and it is beautiful and confortable but not the building who is like all CCCP cities with 2 lift sometimes they are out of order and I live at the 15th floor.

I will try to hunt non-pros today too. Again some pics of Tanya la puta.

Have a nive Valentine's day!

Hecker
02-14-08, 11:45
Romano_V it is Karl Marx street, not Karl Marks street.
The guy was not called Mark, trust me.

Congratulations for the excellent value for money you got in Dnipro.This Tanya is a breath taking beauty.
Very good choice to rent a western standard apartment to meet her standards.You mean the girl had to walk 15 floors upstairs to meet you?

Bez Bezarra
02-14-08, 13:11
Oh man, those are AWESOME fotos!!

Excess
02-14-08, 13:59
Oh man, those are AWESOME fotos!!


"Some Like It NOT", featuring a young Marilyn.....

Cruiser D
02-14-08, 16:56
VV, interesting file names for your photos - almost like you downloaded them off a webpage or something.

Those quality girls for those prices would be expensive in Kiev.

Let me know how it goes on Biz Markie Carl street tonight - no relation to Bez.

Hey, can we change the name of this thread to VV's fantasy world?

Uke Boy
02-14-08, 17:17
Vinnie's deam world in Dnipro is my nightmare. I guess it does take all kinds.

However, isn't there something in the ISG rules that forbid the posting of such pictures? If not, there should be.

Crusier, I suspect these photos are in fact Vinnie's. Who else would be so dumb as to not only find such local trash but then to also photo his conquests and let us see these local wonders.

Romano V
02-14-08, 17:37
18 Chevchenko in the centre close to my flat.

It's the right door on the ground floor. Don't expect to see any girl around: it's a brothel, they're not advertising for it. They were 3 girls, I choose Yulia she is 30 yo and I pay 250 hrn for an hour everywhere they ask for 50$. She was beautiful but too old a great body, CBJ no kiss, all the girls here like sex they are drenched. Look the photo of theentrance.

Today it's Valentine's day and I was this morning with 2 girls, non-pros and tonight I will be at the restaurant with a girl of 19 yo that you can see in photo. There is a big concert in Karl Marx street tonight I wanted to book an escort but they want 250$ and tonight everybody want to fuck.

The other Yulia non pro is 20 and tonight I go at the restaurant with Katya who is only 20 yo the girl with blue eyes.

Doctor_Skank
02-14-08, 22:59
I will try to hunt non-pros today too. Again some pics of Tanya la puta.

Have a nive Valentine's day!
Wow! I bet you could make an awesome girl suit out of that hide!

Bez Bezarra
02-15-08, 03:55
I am now beginning the very beautiful Karl Marks anal prostitute in my fat expensive low quality.

Here you can see my fist prostitute only like a 50 yo streetwalker chubby CIM CIF drenched and penetrated, she sucks my nuts on her knees to suck my freshly shaved fat red ass.



Ok, I am now officially vomiting on the keyboard. Thanks Vince

hey dok, does it puts the lotion in the basket?

Yossi
02-15-08, 06:38
I think that it's good that there are people like Romano V

Qjump
02-15-08, 07:53
I think that it's good that there are people like Romano V

Why? The man tell more tales than the grim brothers...........
But his stories are less believable


But looking at his pictures perhaps this time he is telling the truth..........
O my god he paid for that !!!!!!!!!

Truly unbelievable

Yossi
02-15-08, 08:40
Why? The man tell more tales than the grim brothers...........
But his stories are less believable


But looking at his pictures perhaps this time he is telling the truth..........
O my god he paid for that !!!!!!!!!

Truly unbelievable
I dont know, but there is just something "romantical" about these escapades with these average Dnepropetrovsk women. Why would anyone go to Dnepropetrovsk? But on the other side the $50/hr prices sounds like a good deal. Too bad they dont do anal like Romano says.

I bet that there is more small cities and towns in Ukraine that women go for cheap. Like Ternopil, Oleksandria, Belaya Tserkov, Mariupol and Kherson. I bet that anal is cheap there and it is kinda romantic.

Romantic Romano, right?

Qjump
02-15-08, 12:34
I dont know, but there is just something "romantical" about these escapades with these average Dnepropetrovsk women. Why would anyone go to Dnepropetrovsk? But on the other side the $50/hr prices sounds like a good deal. Too bad they dont do anal like Romano says.

I bet that there is more small cities and towns in Ukraine that women go for cheap. Like Ternopil, Oleksandria, Belaya Tserkov, Mariupol and Kherson. I bet that anal is cheap there and it is kinda romantic.

Romantic Romano, right?

Yossi not sure what substances you have been consuming but if you think thats romantic i would love a hit off your dealer! )))))))))))

Bez Bezarra
02-15-08, 13:01
is just something about anal kinda romantic ?


vince says that scraping the elederly prostitutes [CodeWord113] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord113) off his dick is the most romantic part, and if there is a little corn, red pepper, or some sharp peanuts in the shit, then he will always remember the fisting experiences, plus it gives him an interesting insight into their dietary habits. this added bonus makes him feel very close to the culture and prostitute lifestyle, of what they ate for breakfast.

and lets not forget the delightful bouquet of excrement that fills the room, and also the ammonia aroma when she goes for douche in the bathroom, from mixing her [CodeWord116] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116) with soap. though vince himself prefers no soap.

vince taught us his mantra of life, 'once you go bukakke, you never go backy'

Yossi
02-15-08, 14:15
Yossi not sure what substances you have been consuming but if you think thats romantic i would love a hit off your dealer! )))))))))))
No substances. Honestly.

Yossi
02-15-08, 14:26
vince says that scraping the elederly prostitutes [CodeWord113] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord113) off his dick is the most romantic part, and if there is a little corn, red pepper, or some sharp peanuts in the shit, then he will always remember the fisting experiences, plus it gives him an interesting insight into their dietary habits. this added bonus makes him feel very close to the culture and prostitute lifestyle, of what they ate for breakfast.

and lets not forget the delightful bouquet of excrement that fills the room, and also the ammonia aroma when she goes for douche in the bathroom, from mixing her [CodeWord116] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116) with soap. though vince himself prefers no soap.

vince taught us his mantra of life, 'once you go bukakke, you never go backy'
isn't this is the reason to go to ex-soviet countries is all about? -for a cheap buttfuck of ex-soviet women

i remember in soviet times that russian/ukrainian women were modest and conservative. but now, since the fall of the union they want stuff like cavalli handbags, d&g dresses and blahnik shoes.

and what are the dietary habits of the russian women? buterbrody, yaeeshneetsa, makarony po flotski and blinchiki?

there's always an enema.

Doctor_Skank
02-15-08, 14:40
vince says that scraping the elederly prostitutes [CodeWord113] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord113) off his dick is the most romantic part, and if there is a little corn, red pepper, or some sharp peanuts in the shit, then he will always remember the fisting experiences, plus it gives him an interesting insight into their dietary habits. this added bonus makes him feel very close to the culture and prostitute lifestyle, of what they ate for breakfast.
vince taught us his mantra of life, 'once you go bukakke, you never go backy'
romano v and his dual personality vince voyeur is a true isg hero. i want to see more of his pictures and of girls i would never fuck. even babushka needs some lovin'.

Hecker
02-15-08, 16:13
The funny thing with VV is that not he only steals photos but he steals reports as well.He uses observations made by other mongers to make his reports look genuine.So he builds a half true-half fake account with lots of magic and fabulous inside.

This pro was not cheap.He claims that he paid 250$ for the night.

Romantic adventurous tour to small cities proves never romantic but quite adventurous.

Romano V
02-17-08, 10:21
If you guys think i am not in Dnipro so you can ask to another guy of the forum who was with me this weekend. He told me it's cheap if you compare to Kiev.
We were at the Labyrinth, the famous street (strip) club and just before in an apartment with 2 prostitutes. As he little older than me he chooses first but i have a nice 19 yo with a great teen body and tatoos, here the link to the girl she charges 400 hrn for an hour http://znakomstva.ru/anketa.phtml?oid=173328216&oid=173328216&photos_a=1 but for me one hour is one hour and she has a lot of customers on her mobile phone

Yulia
Rate : 7

After labyrinth were it is too difficult to pick up a girl me and my new friend we were to the Sfera disco club who is full of teens, when you are in this club you have 10 girls for one guy that's incredible I watched 2 nice blondes during all the night dificult for me to approach them but my friend pick up the nicest at 4 o'clock she arranges with her friend who is fattest a meeting with me but she prefers to run away so I deduce that I am a monster it's impossible for me to fuck a girl for free under 47 yo. The two girls looked like little pigs but attractive on the dance floor. My friend said one she likes me but I think it is not true and finally he picked up her so he liked her too, her friend was beautiful and iteresting if all of them were happy but I am a loser. Taxis here like all the cities in Ukraine are mother fuckers.

During the morning I turned at the 18 Chevchenko street where I had massage with another grannie for 250 hrn but she licked my ass. Girl is Tanya.

Rate: 4, 5

After during the evening I called agency and she gives me Nastya that you can see on my pics she has a piercing on her tongue I fucked her like David Perry style and on the table too I cummed two times in one hour for 300 hrn + taxi. Here the girls aren't poor you have like in France a lot of fat girls. She is like a young gothic girl I like this temper. I tried to fuck her in the ass but she doesn't do it. Nastya: 6, 5

On Friday night we were to a Georgian restaurant close to the other guy flat he said that it were cheap food is ok, close to my apartment there is a restaurant Egypt who is expensive but deco is nice.

I can meet a lot of girl in this city but I do not have the sim card.

There is another brothel in the 4 Gogolya street but it is difficult to find it is cheap just 200 hrn an hour so be careful.

If you want to fuck nice young girls you need to pay almost 400 hrn for one hour. Girls who does strip tease in labyrinth don't go out contary to Paris.

They don't leave me to enter with my baskets in Labyrinth but it's less interesting that Sfera. I do not like the disco and the girls do not like me I am less attractive that my compadre everywhere because I speak a little russian and nobody speaks english (or very bad).

I will try a good finish.

Doctor_Skank
02-17-08, 13:49
Like a rat Romano VV is luring now until the storm about his stolen photos and faked reports has calmed down and then he will continue serving us with his adventures happened in his phantasy only.
He visits the ISG nearly every hour, but has rite now no courage to publish new stolen photos and faked reports.
He is a little french frog and a coward, has no money to travel and pretends to be a bigshot.
I appreciate if his memberbership is terminated asap.
I can understand that it is shitty that he steals photos and reports for use on other sites, that is indeed reason for termination.

But you must admit, his fake reports are so pathetic they are hilarious. Quality entertainment!

Bez Bezarra
02-17-08, 14:43
Like a rat Romano VV is

Please, this comparison is innaccurate.

He is much more similar to gerbil.

(If you don't trust me, just ask Richard Gere.)

Spasiba.

Romano V
02-18-08, 11:46
Guys,

Why you don't put me if your ignore list if you do not like my reports and my photos?

Maybe it's like I tell interesting infos and you want more. So if you want more I will give you more.

Here a full night with Yulia 25 yo.

Rate : 8

Romano V
02-18-08, 11:55
I win only 1000€ each mounth in Paris and in Ukraine I fuck 2 girls each day and each time I pay the price. For a night with yulia it's 220€ for 10 hours.

Here the pics.

I am sure you do not like me because the only way i have to fuck girls is to pay.

Romano V
02-18-08, 11:58
Yulia in hardcore pics.

Sevastopol1
02-18-08, 12:59
If you guys think i am not in Dnipro so you can ask to another guy of the forum who was with me this weekend. He told me it's cheap if you compare to Kiev.
We were at the Labyrinth, the famous street (strip) club and just before in an apartment with 2 prostitutes. As he little older than me he chooses first but i have a nice 19 yo with a great teen body and tatoos, here the link to the girl she charges 400 hrn for an hour http://znakomstva.ru/anketa.phtml?oid=173328216&oid=173328216&photos_a=1 but for me one hour is one hour and she has a lot of customers on her mobile phone

Yulia
Rate : 7

After labyrinth were it is too difficult to pick up a girl me and my new friend we were to the Sfera disco club who is full of teens, when you are in this club you have 10 girls for one guy that's incredible I watched 2 nice blondes during all the night dificult for me to approach them but my friend pick up the nicest at 4 o'clock she arranges with her friend who is fattest a meeting with me but she prefers to run away so I deduce that I am a monster it's impossible for me to fuck a girl for free under 47 yo. The two girls looked like little pigs but attractive on the dance floor. My friend said one she likes me but I think it is not true and finally he picked up her so he liked her too, her friend was beautiful and iteresting if all of them were happy but I am a loser. Taxis here like all the cities in Ukraine are mother fuckers.

During the morning I turned at the 18 Chevchenko street where I had massage with another grannie for 250 hrn but she licked my ass. Girl is Tanya.

Rate: 4, 5

After during the evening I called agency and she gives me Nastya that you can see on my pics she has a piercing on her tongue I fucked her like David Perry style and on the table too I cummed two times in one hour for 300 hrn + taxi. Here the girls aren't poor you have like in France a lot of fat girls. She is like a young gothic girl I like this temper. I tried to fuck her in the ass but she doesn't do it. Nastya: 6, 5

On Friday night we were to a Georgian restaurant close to the other guy flat he said that it were cheap food is ok, close to my apartment there is a restaurant Egypt who is expensive but deco is nice.

I can meet a lot of girl in this city but I do not have the sim card.

There is another brothel in the 4 Gogolya street but it is difficult to find it is cheap just 200 hrn an hour so be careful.

If you want to fuck nice young girls you need to pay almost 400 hrn for one hour. Girls who does strip tease in labyrinth don't go out contary to Paris.

They don't leave me to enter with my baskets in Labyrinth but it's less interesting that Sfera. I do not like the disco and the girls do not like me I am less attractive that my compadre everywhere because I speak a little russian and nobody speaks english (or very bad).

I will try a good finish.
VV if you need a sim can supply you kievstar or UMC or beeline (a crap one) for nothing, give me a call on +380958898720 or message me, I am always here for forum members!!!

Cruiser D
02-18-08, 14:46
I say we start passing the hat for a Ukrainian Sim card for VV. Of course we will also have to include postal so we can mail it to him in France.

Tonit66
02-18-08, 15:21
VV you do not have a SIM card?
You are more than cheap, and that you are stupid you admitted already!!
A SIM card from KiyvStar can be bought for 10-20 grivna everywhere.

Thats the reason why you cant meet girls in Ukraine, you dont have even 10 grivna for a SIM card, so going to a very cheap restaurant is beyond your financial possibillities.

Thanks for telling us the truth about your financial impotence.
W.B.

I don't understand why are we spending time and forum space to answer to this guy. Let's ignore it

Hedonist
02-18-08, 23:08
The crazy thing is that everything that Vincenzo is writing is true. I know because I was the other guy with him on Friday night. I happened to be in DP for the weekend and met with him on Friday night. By the way, he is French. To say the least, he was the most "interesting" and weirdest person I have met in my life. In his own way he is trying to contribute to the board, the problem is he lives in some other dimension where nobody else lives. He truly didn't have the money for the SIM card. How he made it to DP left me to wonder...

DP is a boring Soviet city. But there were plenty of clubs with plenty of beautiful girls. IMO, girls are more approachable than in Kiev. Labyrinth is a pick-up joint. There is also a strip club and some dancers were really awesome. Although I picked up my 19-year-old freebie for the weekend from Sfera, I don't recommend this place unless you are going there for the music. Right next to Sfera there is another club called Pudra, which is another pick-up joint where the clientele is a bit older. Bartolomeo is the best and most elite club with really decent girls, well-recommended.

The girl that Vincenzo posted (http://znakomstva.ru/anketa.phtml?oid=173328216&oid=173328216&photos_a=1&sold=cdQ9HxQFv4e8Gqs59NFPWtkAs3vhwa7T) is not too beautiful, but she truly enjoys sex and is a good provider.

There is a shopping mall with ice-skating and bowling called Most (bridge) across the Lenin square. It is a very fertile territory for hunting.

All in all, IMO DP is as manageable as Kiev and freebie possibilities are higher.

Bez Bezarra
02-19-08, 05:04
The crazy Vincenzo is the weirdest person that lives in some other dimension.

Uh huh, the Romano adulation-fest probably all sounds pretty harmless to those with short memory. So let's hope this ain't too painful, BUT.......

Someone with a few brain cells left needs to interrupt your VVoyeur mongerloid circle jerk for a brief reality check. Wondering why? Is it possible that only Bez hasn't forgotten, what else Vincenzo has openly admitted?

Ok, yes he is the frenchman, more so as in specifically, a proud and arrogant Vichy nazi collaborateur, the lowest of low most despicable frogs.

Well, sorry for dampening your party. But its the kind of thing you'd want to know about somebody, before making any other assumptions.

Romano V
02-19-08, 12:03
I am alwas in Dnipro and I liked very much the girl of Hedonist surely he knows it because I am stayed watching her and her friend dancing during all the night. At the end I wasn't more happy because the girl of Hedonist tried to arrange me a meeting with her friends who was looking good too. These kinds of 19 yo girls are 100% my taste. OK Hedonist is good looking than me without a problem so it is normal he picks up the most beautiful but if we can arrange 100% it's better and the other girl was out quickly before her friend so I deduce that I am a monster.

Here more pics about Nastyucha (Nastya) because I tried to fist-fucked her, as you can see 5 fingers in her pussy. 10 hours for 220 €, one condom broken (it's the famous light of contex) so be careful guys, do not use Ukrainian condoms too, just in Dnipro I broken 2 condoms I never had that kind of problem before. I will be proud if Jackson builds the VV Russian women forum here maybe is that you recognize I try my best to help all the mongers here. Yes, the best tactic is you come just for a weekend if you live near a city like Dnipro to begin Friday and to fuck the same girl for free all the weekend, but after it will be good to send the phone number to the "friends" or if you want to get married ok you keep the pussy for you.

Nastya is from Lugansk I know this city and before she was blonde, Now she has long darkest haired and superb blu eyes, she is 23 yo, natural big tits. No anal. It is the second time that I choose her because she works for Lera in Kirova prospect and just this agency is serious here http://www.sex. Dp. Ua/details.php? Id=2809 they ask for 250 hrn for one hour and 250$ for a night (7, 5 hours) but the girl Yulia stayed more and Natya stayed more than 10 hours.

Rate : 7,5

Qjump
02-20-08, 07:27
Vince,
Really please stop posting pictures of these girls, damn not one of them so far would get a dime from me for a fuck, they really would have to pay me!
They are real pigs, and you paid them? that is of course if you ever met them.
I have an idea why not just go and start your own forum and go play on your own?
Cheese eating surrender monkey.

Doctor_Skank
02-20-08, 08:09
Vince,
Really please stop posting pictures of these girls, damn not one of them so far would get a dime from me for a fuck, they really would have to pay me!
They are real pigs, and you paid them? that is of course if you ever met them.
I have an idea why not just go and start your own forum and go play on your own?
Cheese eating surrender monkey.
A) if you knew anything about French military history you wouldn't write such shit
B) where are your pictures?
C) cheese tastes good, just not between a girl's legs

Qjump
02-20-08, 09:48
A) if you knew anything about French military history you wouldn't write such shit
And thats why they have been bailed out twice in the last 100 years then?
B) where are your pictures?
And his are real?
C) cheese tastes good, just not between a girl's legs
Ok got to agree with that one. ))))

Prosal
02-20-08, 11:50
Cheese eating surrender monkey.

little french frog .. coward french froggie
You peckerwoods should really hook up together. You were made for each other.

How's life in rural Iowa white-trash trailer parks BTW ?

:rolleyes:

Qjump
02-20-08, 12:07
How's life in rural Iowa white-trash trailer parks BTW ?


No idea you tell me?
When members of your family died to save them twice start telling me what i can and can not say about the french. if not wind your neck in and keep stum.

Bez Bezarra
02-20-08, 13:54
How's life in Iowa ?



Which also matches their IQ. (Pro- looks like you hit their weak spot! hehe!)

Please remember that if you must reference any of the fotos in question, you MUST view the happy hideous Frankenstien bride he posted in the Switzerland thread.

ALL OTHER FOTOS are irrelevant.

Switzerland Photo Gallery Post #25, final foto, jpg.5298.

Warning: Viewing this pic may result in permanent blindness, or cause your sexual organs to liquify. Mongers are instructed to use EXTREME CAUTION if approaching the gorgon medusa.

Romano V
02-20-08, 21:55
For my last girl in Dnipro I called the agency of Lera who is located on Kirova prospect because she was the most serious with me to send me the girls to my flat, she proposed me Yulia and I arranged a meeting with another girl under 20 yo. Rita is from Lugansk, she is the friend of Nastyusha because they came from the poorest city of Ukraine, she is only 19 tall and I like her body. She has a muslim boyfriend in Crimea (Yalta) but liked to fuck her because she is thin and she does very good DFK. I paid only 250$ the night with a 18 yo girl in Dnipro, it's interesting. But for my lastnight I wanted 2 girls for one night but she came with another pig unfuckable so I have great time to fuck a teen in pantyhose how I wanted. On the table, on the sofa, she liked me and sowed her the famous David Perry position. All the girls in Dnipro like sex they do it for the money and a lot came from eastern Ukraine and the poorest city of Lugansk.

Rate: 8

Romano V
02-21-08, 18:38
Here my last pics of Dnipro.

Please if you are clever to read the forum rules and you don't like me just put me in your ignore list.

Dnipro is a good city for sex, I had 2 girls each day, 3 nights the rest are 1 hour fuck and meeting with non-pros in bars, restaurant.

www.mystay.org are very serious and they help me with a good price. I recommande them for foreigners like me who has no friend in a big city like Dnipro and who speak just few english and 2 or 3 words in russian.

My best time with a freebie was a girl of 25 yoo who works for Privat bank, I paid her a drink and next she paid me a drink after I had very goods DFKs. But after not news maybe she was more drunk than me. I love Xortytsya vodka I think ukrainian vodka is the best in the world. Be careful some girls in Dnipro drink a lot of Martini, Champagne and after they became strange, one wanted to marry me and after wanted 250 hrn for an hour.

A thing something strange in this city that people aren't poor they have good cars, and girls have money.

I excuse me for the bad quality of my last photos I have good material but not the right hands to use it.

LifeSavour
03-02-08, 11:46
Spent last Thursday in Dnep' city (it was hastily arranged trip with my 'bi' 30 year old partner. Oksana) and had a good time and an interesting event!

Booked a 1 bedroom apartment with mystay.org, it was OK except for no F'ing toilet paper.

Wrote to several girls and had some phone numbers from the 'ol database.

One I called before leaving Kyiv and she actually SMS'd me while on the train.

I liked her 'cuz she is 20 and big tits!

So I had Oksana (perfect english, hot, and girls luv her) take over and talk since this Lila had no english. I wanted to meet in kafe (as Oksana was doing all the business negotiations) and knew I would be bored. Lila only wanted to come right to the apartment that night at 8pm. So we agreed and gave her the door code and address.

After the call, Oksana remarked "I think she is a prostitute! " Maybe? As I knew she was looking for a 'sponsor'.

8:20 the door 'rings'. I go and open and there are 3 ladies standing there. Hmmmm, PARTY? Then I see the 1st one, she looked like the older sister of the actor that plays the wife in 'Married with Children', and by older I mean she was 40's. The other working girl was younger and not bad until you saw the BIG red ZIT in the middle of her cleavage. Ok, I am needing help.

Oksana began translating. You need to choose one! 'But they are not Lila? '

How much? 250 uah 'oral/no condom? ' all in condom!

Bye-bye!

How I got from talking with Lila to these 'tramps' at my door, I still don't know! The one was a 2 and the other 5. 5 (minus the zit). Now the BOSS lady was around 35 and the best! But she was not on the menu. They need to change their marketing!

Lila 20

http://love.mail.ru/anketa.phtml?oid=181426554


Обо мне
Молодая, симпатичная девушка ищет спонсора для материальной поддержки.
Очень прошу от нечего делать не пишите и хамить вовсе необязательно!

About me the Young, nice girl searches for the sponsor for material support. Very much I ask from there is nothing to do do not write and to be rude at all unessentially!

Кого я хочу найти:
Не жадного самостоятельного мужчину!

Whom I wish to find: Not greedy independent the man!

Материальная поддержка:
Хочу найти спонсора

Material support: I Wish to find the sponsorNow it was time to try a club. Oksana was tired from selling all day and stayed home. I was horney from drinking all day. Tried to go to Pudra, was closed. This complex had 8 or so clubs but only 2 were open. Belgian Beer Club and RICCA. I said ok, I want beer And asked about Belgian? 50 uah! "I gotta pay you to drink beer? " The guy laughed. I said "you should pay me cuz I drink alot of beer! " So I asked if I paid can I go to RICCA too? No, another 50! So I headed to the door and he stopped me. Waved me to pay, agreed to both, and I got stamped VIP!

RICCA was ok, big bar. Good music and many ladies, older crowd. After awhile a very sexy 27 year old dark haired Yana sat next to me. I assumed she was working. We talked, I bought her a rink. We danced. And I was ready to pay her price to leave. I was shocked when she said she was not a 'working girl'. Fooled again! I am getting old! Did get her number. We talked for awhile and went our separate ways. They do this to see IF you will go after them. Showing you are interested.

Had been eyeing a group of blondes near me. I walked up to the single one sitting there and asked to dance. Older, but still very attractive and nice! I thought maybe I can score! Well, when Yana saw me dancing I knew she was bye-bye. See these girls like to make you play hard for them. I simply did not have the time or the energy to do so!

This blonde also said she could not go with me. Not the 1st time we meet!

So I am out the door at 1am and asking taxi guy for a girl! Shit, he drove me to a street and 2 gals popped in the back. Fugly! I don't think even Bez would of fucked 'them! So at 2am, I was tired, drunk and headed home.

LS Guy

Ukraine Rocker
04-01-08, 11:44
Romano V, Please post the contact info. for Nastyucha (Nastya)

Thanks!


I am alwas in Dnipro and I liked very much the girl of Hedonist surely he knows it because I am stayed watching her and her friend dancing during all the night. At the end I wasn't more happy because the girl of Hedonist tried to arrange me a meeting with her friends who was looking good too. These kinds of 19 yo girls are 100% my taste. OK Hedonist is good looking than me without a problem so it is normal he picks up the most beautiful but if we can arrange 100% it's better and the other girl was out quickly before her friend so I deduce that I am a monster.

Here more pics about Nastyucha (Nastya) because I tried to fist-fucked her, as you can see 5 fingers in her pussy. 10 hours for 220 €, one condom broken (it's the famous light of contex) so be careful guys, do not use Ukrainian condoms too, just in Dnipro I broken 2 condoms I never had that kind of problem before. I will be proud if Jackson builds the VV Russian women forum here maybe is that you recognize I try my best to help all the mongers here. Yes, the best tactic is you come just for a weekend if you live near a city like Dnipro to begin Friday and to fuck the same girl for free all the weekend, but after it will be good to send the phone number to the "friends" or if you want to get married ok you keep the pussy for you.

Nastya is from Lugansk I know this city and before she was blonde, Now she has long darkest haired and superb blu eyes, she is 23 yo, natural big tits. No anal. It is the second time that I choose her because she works for Lera in Kirova prospect and just this agency is serious here http://www.sex. Dp. Ua/details.php? Id=2809 they ask for 250 hrn for one hour and 250$ for a night (7, 5 hours) but the girl Yulia stayed more and Natya stayed more than 10 hours.

Rate : 7,5

P Bear
04-04-08, 18:30
Just returned to the USA after a quick business trip thru Ukraine. Donesk- Mariopol- Dnepo. Took advice from this board and went looking around the train station. Had some moderate success- would have preferred a better selection, but maybe mid-afternoon is not a good "fishing time". First tried to enlist the help of a taxi driver from the train station. I have never seen such rude Ukrainians in my life!! I don't know if it was my poor Russian or the fact that we were at the train station or what- but these guys were not very helpful. I found it a little hard to separate the interested girls from the flock. They all wear "hooker" boots and tight short skirts. Lots of false impressions for this poor little country boy.

Ended up spending the afternoon with Veka (early 20's- bottle blonde with sweet little perky "B's") meet her just outside the internet cafe near the train station. Would not allow pictures (maybe after she gets to know me better), but good GFE service. I think she would be insulted to be considered a "provider", but responded well to a nice lunch and some good wine and did accept some assistance toward her school expenses.

Bottom line- a good time was had by all and I plan to repeat next month.

The Bear

Romano V
04-04-08, 20:34
Romano V, Please post the contact info. for Nastyucha (Nastya)

Thanks!http://love.znakomstva.ru/anketa.phtml?oid=181426554

Romano V
04-09-08, 20:30
I return of one week in this city. On average 2 girls per day. I reserved a housing on http://www.mystay.org and it is less expensive than in Kiev. To begin Tanya the blonde began a CIF and one CIM in more she provides DFK. Rate: 6
prices 40€ one hour for 220€ the night. There is a brothel to the 18 Chevchenko I took Yulia which is 30 years old like me, in Gogolya 4 and the 33 Lenina. It was the St. Valentine's day and she did not DFK me. I left with step badly girls.

Rate: 7

Another 19 years Yulia with a body of teen http://znakomstva.ru/anketa.phtml?oid=1... photos_a=1 on Kirova prospective customer. 400 hrn/h
Rate: 7

a turn in the Labyrinth discotheque with strip club and another Sfera. Then a massage with Tanya.

Rate: 4,5

Nastya girl booked one hour and then a night, style gothic, fisted and a broken condom. She has a piercing on the tongue and the navel.

Rate: 6,5

Then a night with Yuliana which is 25 years old and wishes to marry with me however she was drunk. I benefit from it to make some photographs hardcore. 50$/h and 250$/nuit

Rate: 8

Vika is a non-pro and works in a bank and paid me to drink for excellent DFK surely the best of my life my dick was so hard and i not fucked her finally. http://freepersonals.ru/showProfile.da?id=258907

to finish another 19 year old named girl Rita.

Rate: 8

Romano V
04-23-08, 18:11
http://love.znakomstva.ru/tips/?tip=AWarn&tcurl=http%3A%2F%2Flove.znakomstva.ru%2Fanketa.phtml%3Foid%3D173328216%26oid%3D173328216%26photos_a%3D1&tburl=http%3A%2F%2Flove.znakomstva.ru%2F

Is Lylia 23 yo she asks for 400 hrn for an hour on Kirova prospect.

Reiner Otto
05-04-08, 21:18
... I am a little bit disappointed. First, thanks to the info regarding hotel "Dnepropetrovsk", although 60$ now, it is conviniently located. Might be absolutely perfect during the warm period of the year, when the bars close to the hotel, at the river, are busy.
However, breakfast not included, but for a short stay it is OK. Rooms are clean, but a bit "old-fashioned".

The quality of girls is lower compared to what I am used to in Nikolaev. May be, thats because the centre of Dnepro is quite widespread, whereas in Niko it is more concentrated.
Weather was not good, so may be the good ones were hiding :-)
Disco "Labyrinth" I liked, not too big, quite young girls, not the top besides a few, but very approachable.
Possible to walk there from hotel Dnepro.
Also to recommend: Shopping Centre "Moct", at the central bridge, also in walking distance from hotel Dnepro.
Especially the small bar inside the internet cafe. Always some pros/semis of good quality.
In case, you bring your own notebook, WiFi is free for some time, depending upon how many $ you spend for consumption. Using your notebook shows valid reason for take some time while observing the girls, which will sit down close to you ...

Will check Dnepro again some time, may be, just now because of the short holidays students were out of town.

Doctor_Skank
05-04-08, 21:48
... I am a little bit disappointed. First, thanks to the info regarding hotel "Dnepropetrovsk", although 60$ now, it is conviniently located. Might be absolutely perfect during the warm period of the year, when the bars close to the hotel, at the river, are busy.
However, breakfast not included, but for a short stay it is OK. Rooms are clean, but a bit "old-fashioned".

The quality of girls is lower compared to what I am used to in Nikolaev. May be, thats because the centre of Dnepro is quite widespread, whereas in Niko it is more concentrated.
Weather was not good, so may be the good ones were hiding :-)
Disco "Labyrinth" I liked, not too big, quite young girls, not the top besides a few, but very approachable.
Possible to walk there from hotel Dnepro.
Also to recommend: Shopping Centre "Moct", at the central bridge, also in walking distance from hotel Dnepro.
Especially the small bar inside the internet cafe. Always some pros/semis of good quality.
In case, you bring your own notebook, WiFi is free for some time, depending upon how many $ you spend for consumption. Using your notebook shows valid reason for take some time while observing the girls, which will sit down close to you ...

Will check Dnepro again some time, may be, just now because of the short holidays students were out of town.
Thanks for the report!

Did you try to take anybody back to the hotel, did they let you?

Also, weren't there girls working in the hotel itself?

Hecker
05-05-08, 00:31
... I am a little bit disappointed. First, thanks to the info regarding hotel "Dnepropetrovsk", although 60$ now, it is conviniently located. Might be absolutely perfect during the warm period of the year, when the bars close to the hotel, at the river, are busy.

However, breakfast not included, but for a short stay it is OK. Rooms are clean, but a bit "old-fashioned".

The quality of girls is lower compared to what I am used to in Nikolaev. May be, thats because the centre of Dnepro is quite widespread, whereas in Niko it is more concentrated.

Weather was not good, so may be the good ones were hiding :-)

Disco "Labyrinth" I liked, not too big, quite young girls, not the top besides a few, but very approachable.

Possible to walk there from hotel Dnepro.

Also to recommend: Shopping Centre "Moct", at the central bridge, also in walking distance from hotel Dnepro.

Especially the small bar inside the internet cafe. Always some pros/semis of good quality.

In case, you bring your own notebook, WiFi is free for some time, depending upon how many $ you spend for consumption. Using your notebook shows valid reason for take some time while observing the girls, which will sit down close to you ...

Will check Dnepro again some time, may be, just now because of the short holidays students were out of town.Yes, Most. I could not remember the name. I wrote there is a big shopping center full of good looking girls in contrast to what is seen on the street. There are many shops and many girls in cafes etc, in my opinion the best place to hunt in Dnipro apart from Labyrinth. Yes, girls are approachable but they ask for presents even in first date. Did you manage to get any freebie in Labyrinth or Most? Did they let you do anything to them?

In my personal opinion Dnipro is a conservative town, no relation in terms of girls mentality to Kiev, the difference is obvious.

P Bear
05-05-08, 16:42
I stayed two nights at the Dnepo hotel the end of the week before Easter. Only had one question about my guest coming into the hotel- Fellow at front desk asked "who we were" in russian- I responded "guests" in English and he said no more.

I found the pickings a little thin while I was there- but I do not drink and the bar scene is not my usual hunting grounds. I did have some luck at the mall near the train station again. I also struck up a nice converstation with a couple of potentials in the river walk area across from hotel Dnepo. Nothing came of them- but got some good info for the future. The riverwalk was quite crowded with couples, I was taking some time-lapse photos and got into a conversation about cameras with a couple of nice young things.

Spent the holiday week in Yalta and environs. Yalta was too crowded and traffic was a pain. Spent a much nicer day in Feodocia with my friend from Donesk. The beaches were not very crowded, once you got out of Yalta.

I always enjoy the tram up the mountain in Yalta- but it was all family groups and did not locate much in the way of single females anywhere I went in Yalta. But my friend- sort of kept the prospecting time to a minimum. She was not real fond of the idea of me looking at all the short skirts dancing by. But nearly every girl I saw was with a guy.

Pbear

Reiner Otto
05-05-08, 17:30
I neither had freebees nor pros. Although:
- just in front of hotel Dnepro 2 girls, sitting on bench, were even calling me.
- Girls in Labyrinth multiple times approached me, either simply by dancing closer and closer, or directly by standing besides me at the bar for some time. I am used to both from the disco in Nikolaev, so it seems to be standard procedure.

For different reasons I was not really interested, besides one strange event:
On my last day (Saturday night) in Labyrinth 2 girls (about 23-25 years old) entered Labyrinth disco, still in their coats, looking around for just no more than 1 minute, and disappeared.
Came back a few minutes later, without coats, started to dance.
One girl was a bit above average, but the second a real stunner, igniting my interest, already when she entered the first time. Her type was like "Cher", the singer.
They danced closer and closer to my place at the bar.
Im a dancer from time to time, and when "Moscow calling" was on the turntable, I entered the dancing arena, too, but they left, went to my place at the bar and sat down onto my chair and the next one.
So everything seemed clear to me, coming back from the dancing arena I started to talk to them, to invite for a drink. They only wanted juice, without vodka. I only speak bad Russian, they spoke reasonable English, but already after few words of small talk they started to dance again, and disappeared. I was really wondering, looked around, found them, reminded about the juice, they promised to come back, but disappeared completely.
I was total puzzled, because into the "Cher" type I was really interested in.
My only guess: They were looking for a Russian sponsor, because their interest was obvious.
Or any other thoughts from the experts in Russian style ?

PS: Did not notice pros in hotel Dnepro. But there were not many guests, either.

Hecker
05-05-08, 22:06
So you did not get any phone numbers or dates in two whole days.In two days there I dated three girls,got phone numbers from model looking girls and had fun in disco both times I went and I regard the trip as a failure because I could not bed any girl.Only one came with me to hotel but when we reached the entrance she changed her mind.So nothing has changed in Dnipro.Now the wages there stand at 1900 gryvnia per month,unemployment is 4-5% maximum.

Orange Leo
05-06-08, 05:15
Some local have told me that police do everything to get rid of the prostitute in city-center.
Reiner Otto You will not be in any doubt when you meet a pro in Dnepr.
Them i saw walk around in clothe like Julia Robert did in pretty woman when she was at work.

Cruiser D
05-07-08, 13:42
Otto, what is so puzzling about your encounter? The girls really weren't that interested in you. They entered the club with their coats on to see if it was worth it. They checked their coats, danced for a few songs. Didn't like the action and left.

It always nice to hear reports that aren't about Kiev or Odessa. But on the other hand the fact we are hearing more about the 'other areas' is rather telling.

Ash1001
05-10-08, 13:49
I guess at heart we're all still looking for that elusive town where girls fall into our arms just because we're foreigners with disposable income.

So Kiev, Odessa and now Dnipro are all off.

Mariupol, anyone?

Cruiser D
05-10-08, 23:45
I think if you get outside of Kiev and Odessa you should be okay. But unless you want to start hitting the villages I think the days of girls throwing themselves at you because you are foreign is over (has been for a while, since the petro boom) until the next FSU economic crash.

Hecker
05-11-08, 12:05
I guess at heart we're all still looking for that elusive town where girls fall into our arms just because we're foreigners with disposable income.

So Kiev, Odessa and now Dnipro are all off.

Mariupol, anyone?The three best cities in Ukraine in my opinion are L, M, L. Anyway we see the big cities of 1 million like Kharkov, Dnipro, Donetsk, Odessa, Zaporoziye in steady decline. What still remains interesting is the medium range cities like Lugansk, Kherson, Mariupol, Poltava etc with 300000-600000 inhabitants. On the other hand smaller cities like Ternopol, Krivoj Rog, Uzhgorod, Cernivtsi in the range of lower than 200000 inhabitans are pretty much dead since most attractive girls have emigrated to big cities and the small size of these cities does not allow girls to avoid social control in relations with foreigners.

Another question is what happens with Crimea where there are two big cities like Sympherupol with 800000 and Sevastopol with 400000 inhabitants and the majority are Russians. There has to be some difference.

However my guess is the medium range cities for now plus some daily excursions to nearby smaller cities for collecting some boot. You need several plans under the sack in province, it is always a liquid situation.

Ash1001
05-12-08, 00:39
Curiously, the petro boom may have the unexpected effect of making Ukrainian girls MORE interested in foreigners. Despite the surge in commodity prices - which has enabled some biznez types to add another Maybach or two to their fleet - middle class salaries in Kiev remain around $500 pm at best, which will just about cover the rent on an apartment with little left over.

As the gilded elite indulge themselves ever more extravagantly, most girls will realise they've been left behind.

Even though all Ukrainian girls ideally want a rich Slavic guy, the reality is that these men are very few and far between. A good second choice for an ambitious girl might be a Westerner who can take her to fancy clubs and restaurants (even though he can't stretch to buying her a car or an apartment :))

If she has some interest in the English language and Western ways - so much the better.

Hecker
05-22-08, 10:56
Curiously, the petro boom may have the unexpected effect of making Ukrainian girls MORE interested in foreigners. Despite the surge in commodity prices - which has enabled some biznez types to add another Maybach or two to their fleet - middle class salaries in Kiev remain around $500 pm at best, which will just about cover the rent on an apartment with little left over.

As the gilded elite indulge themselves ever more extravagantly, most girls will realise they've been left behind.

Even though all Ukrainian girls ideally want a rich Slavic guy, the reality is that these men are very few and far between. A good second choice for an ambitious girl might be a Westerner who can take her to fancy clubs and restaurants (even though he can't stretch to buying her a car or an apartment :))

If she has some interest in the English language and Western ways - so much the better.Actually average salary in Kiev has now exceeded 3000 grivnya which is 650$ or 420 euro. The wages in province are on average 1700 grivnya with Dnipro, Donetsk almost at 2000 grivnya, that is average wages stand now at 375$ or 240 euro.

Last year at the same period the wages were at 1200 grivnya on average, so they have increased about 40%, and so has the difficulty for mongers as well. Of course part of the increase is due to decline of dollar value to which grivnya is connected. If we suppose that euro remained stable in the last year, the wages in Ukraine have increased from 40 euro in 1999 to 80 euro in 2003 to 120 euro in 2005 and 240 euro now. So they are now 6 times more than 1999, 3 times more than 2003 and 100% higher than in 2005. However the difficulty as I feel it does not vary according to wages measured in euro but according to them measured in grivnya or dollars even if the latter is devalued.

So in dollars the wages have increased from 45$ in 1999 to 375$ now, that is a 8 times increase. In 2003 the wages were 85$, so there is 5 times increase from then, at 2005 they stood at 150$, so they have increased 2.5 times from then.

This has had a considerable effect on girls' attitude and expenses. Actually expenses vary according to inflation rate which is almost 10% in the last year and almost double in my opinion in luxury products and accomodation. Many things cost a lot more in Ukraine than in the West. Actually the same things always cost more and there are only substitudes to be found which cost the same but have lower quality. So this year you have to pay 20% more in restaurants, accomodation, dates etc to get girls which will be probably be 40% more arrogant and demanding or get girls 40% less beautiful in comparison to last year.

Actually girls' availability in my opinion varies mainly according to unemployment rate which has remained stable in Ukraine in last years in 8%. The other factor is the wages. However the wages mostly determine the girls' attitude,behaviour and expectations while unemployment determines their availability, if they are ready to sleep with you. You see in Lugansk an unemployment about 9% while in Dnipro it is 3-4%. This means that a lot more girls are available in Lugansk although the population factor favours Dnipro (Dnipro has 2.5 times more population). Let's say unemployment increases girls availability by a factor multiplied by 2 while population is in straight relationship to girls' availability. So the latter is high in Kiev due to population alone which is 5 times more than Lugansk.

Anyway all this is just assumptions. There are other factors involved such as degree of emigration to big cities which increases considerably the availability since it creates a population of low salaried or underemployed girls and strips off the small provincial towns of some important resources. (actually some of them seem like abandoned, like only old people have remained).

To estimate the degree of emigration and its effect we need another method, however this is decisive for the girls' availability in Kiev which is higher than level of unemployment and average wages would allow it to be foreseen.

Romano V
05-23-08, 17:03
Dnipro is still a good place for non-pros, when i ws in my apartment close to Karl Marx street the girls called me directly to my fat to do a meeting jusk ask them to join you in front of the Mac Donald on the place who has the big statue of Lenin and a big screen. They will be here for the meeting of course because girls in this town are serious. Compared to Karkhov who has an actually average salary of 210 euros it's a city of more 1 million of people too with a great chance to have a freebie i think more easy than Moldova where girl are afraid about foreigners. Girls of Dnipro will jump of you either if you are a foreigners and maybe in Zaporojie too but there is a lot of pollution.

Ash1001
05-27-08, 19:19
Hecker, the "average" salary in Kiev is $650 per month if your sample consists of people with good professional jobs working for foreign firms. Once you include students, recent arrivals, shop workers, bar girls and the temporarily jobless in the mean estimation sample you certainly won't get $650 per month.

For example, one of my friends in Kiev manages a visa processing outsourcing operation for EU countries and pays $450 pm for fluent English speaking graduates. They're pretty happy to be earning this.

And let's suppose some young chick is managing to earn $650 per month, after basic living costs of say $400, how much is left over to go out and party? A good night out with dinner, drinks and nightclub will cost $100 at least.

The question is, are we going to supply it or is some local Uke dude?

Doctor_Skank
05-27-08, 19:47
And let's suppose some young chick is managing to earn $650 per month, after basic living costs of say $400, how much is left over to go out and party? A good night out with dinner, drinks and nightclub will cost $100 at least.

The question is, are we going to supply it or is some local Uke dude?

Even though all Ukrainian girls ideally want a rich Slavic guy, the reality is that these men are very few and far between. A good second choice for an ambitious girl might be a Westerner who can take her to fancy clubs and restaurants (even though he can't stretch to buying her a car or an apartment :))

Just a thought, but perhaps one of the reasons Ukrainian girls aren't jumping at foreigners the way some would expect after looking at the demographics and economics of the region is because they've figured out 2 things:

1) we only want sex
2) after sex with them, we will dump them to have sex with their sister

OK, a third thing.

3) When it comes right down to it, we are pretty cheap.

We may spring for a dinner or two or pay for drinks at the club, which is good enough to certainly find the occasional taker, but the average Ukrainian girl is looking to get married by the time she is 22. I'm not talking about girls on the club circuit who will happily take "donations" from anybody, but rather about more average girls with average dreams, who make up the vast majority of our target audience. Our reputation as marriage material has taken a hit in the last 10 years of sex tourism, particularly for young(er) guys under 40. With a few exceptions, we really don't spend THAT much money on them, certainly not on tangible things that really improve their lives.

I have no idea if what I have just written is true in any way, but it seems plausible.

In my opinion it really is best to approach them with something else in your repertoire than "I am a foreigner, I am different and exotic". That will come to play in your favor anyway at some point, you have to address other things first. After all, they are just girls... and girls are pretty basic when it comes right down to it.
If she has some interest in the English language and Western ways - so much the better.If she's one of those, you've already won half the battle. Ukrainians is still quite pro-Western in comparison with Russians, not that it really matters to girls though. Thankfully they really don't care much about politics.

Hecker
05-27-08, 20:56
Hecker, the "average" salary in Kiev is $650 per month if your sample consists of people with good professional jobs working for foreign firms. Once you include students, recent arrivals, shop workers, bar girls and the temporarily jobless in the mean estimation sample you certainly won't get $650 per month.

For example, one of my friends in Kiev manages a visa processing outsourcing operation for EU countries and pays $450 pm for fluent English speaking graduates. They're pretty happy to be earning this.

And let's suppose some young chick is managing to earn $650 per month, after basic living costs of say $400, how much is left over to go out and party? A good night out with dinner, drinks and nightclub will cost $100 at least.

The question is, are we going to supply it or is some local Uke dude?OK, I will give you some hardcore statistics.

http://www.ukrstat.gov.ua

You see there that average salary in Kiev has reached 2942 grivnya in March which is 650$.

Hecker
05-27-08, 21:03
Just a thought, but perhaps one of the reasons Ukrainian girls aren't jumping at foreigners the way some would expect after looking at the demographics and economics of the region is because they've figured out 2 things:

1) we only want sex
2) after sex with them, we will dump them to have sex with their sister

OK, a third thing.

3) When it comes right down to it, we are pretty cheap.

We may spring for a dinner or two or pay for drinks at the club, which is good enough to certainly find the occasional taker, but the average Ukrainian girl is looking to get married by the time she is 22. I'm not talking about girls on the club circuit who will happily take "donations" from anybody, but rather about more average girls with average dreams, who make up the vast majority of our target audience. Our reputation as marriage material has taken a hit in the last 10 years of sex tourism, particularly for young(er) guys under 40. With a few exceptions, we really don't spend THAT much money on them, certainly not on tangible things that really improve their lives.

I have no idea if what I have just written is true in any way, but it seems plausible.

In my opinion it really is best to approach them with something else in your repertoire than "I am a foreigner, I am different and exotic". That will come to play in your favor anyway at some point, you have to address other things first. After all, they are just girls... and girls are pretty basic when it comes right down to it.If she's one of those, you've already won half the battle. Ukrainians is still quite pro-Western in comparison with Russians, not that it really matters to girls though. Thankfully they really don't care much about politics.There are two kinds of foreigners.The foreigners who come to find a bride and the ones who come only to fuck.The latter are commonly described as sex tourists.

The girls try to find out in what category their acquaintances belong,so they tend to use some shit tests.

Indeed a whole lot of foreigners still marry ukrainian girls,so many of them take the risk.In province they are supposed to be married at a very young age,almost all beautiful ones are already married by age 20.The leftovers are either hard to bed or uglier or have some mental,personality disorder or her bf turned to be alcoholic and loser.

The real problem is that if you do not make serious promises to a girl after sex and within the first 6 months of acquaintance,the likelihood is that you will lose her if you do not come to her city often.

Bez Bezarra
05-28-08, 02:53
They also don't seem to very agreeable to living in the west, but how can they expect me to make $100K working over there, besides, its no place to raise a family, and the hell if I'm gonna live through those winters.

Getting a fiance visa is even harder now, about $3000 and a minimum of 2 years waiting for the paperwork to go through Texas. Of course, if they were Haitian, it would be so easy.

Moliere
05-28-08, 11:07
OK, I will give you some hardcore statistics.

http://www.ukrstat.gov.ua

You see there that average salary in Kiev has reached 2942 grivnya in March which is 650$.Hecker, that's a very useful source. Thanks.

But I would not be to sure about how to interpret the numbers. (I am a professional economist). First, the monthly increases are absolutely unbelievable. Average wages did not go from 2576 to 3045 in the three months from Jan-Apr 2008. There are a dozen reasons govt statistics may be off the wall. That's not your fault, but it's true. If wages were really rising that fast, we would see the prices in McDonald's going up every week.

Second, the relative numbers may be more useful. Places like Ternopil are showing wages less than half those in Kiev city.

Hecker
05-28-08, 18:50
Hecker, that's a very useful source. Thanks.

But I would not be to sure about how to interpret the numbers. (I am a professional economist). First, the monthly increases are absolutely unbelievable. Average wages did not go from 2576 to 3045 in the three months from Jan-Apr 2008. There are a dozen reasons govt statistics may be off the wall. That's not your fault, but it's true. If wages were really rising that fast, we would see the prices in McDonald's going up every week.

Second, the relative numbers may be more useful. Places like Ternopil are showing wages less than half those in Kiev city.I am not economist but I think they do some kind of rounding numbers I do not know how it is called.For example at the end of 2007(December 2007) the average salary in Kiev was rounded to 3000 grivnya,os they had to reduce it again in January 2008 in order to make the average of year close to real wages.I cannot express it exactly,anyway what matters is that official wages are now 50% up in places like Western Ukraine in comparison to what they were 1 year ago the same period.

If you visit the cities,the picture you get is in straight correlation to official wages,Ternopil looks definitely poorer than Lvov,it looks like Lvov one year ago and Lvov looks poorer than Kiev,like Kiev 2 years ago.This is what official statistics describe.

Dnipro looks also poorer than Kiev and has less luxury cars on street than Lvov and more Ladas than Lvov.This is in contrast to the higher official wages and lower unemployment in Dnipro than in Lvov,however statistics do not take into account money flowing into from immigrants a lot of whom working in EU countries come from Western Ukraine,so their money sent home maybe responsible for some unexpected pictures.

Ash1001
05-29-08, 00:10
I think the foreigner in Kiev now essentially has 2 options. First is to be a good boy and search seriously for a wife/serious gf. This doesn't necessarily involve spending large amounts of cash (she'll want you to hang on to that for when she's married to you :)) but rather time, effort and patience.

But if you want to enjoy the party girls, you may have to take a leaf out of the local biznez dude's book. One key aspect to the way they spend their cash is not so much the amount they chuck around but the fact they don't expect any immediate return - they spend for the fun of it, not to get value for money. Foreigners are always looking for the cheapest flight, hotel room, taxi, restaurant, ho, whatever, and it tends not to create the right impression.

To be both player and frugal spender requires a move to the provinces - see QJump's posts. Or the far out Kiev suburbs, as per LS.

The third alternative is to find a girl who genuinely likes you for yourself. NOT by any means impossible, but then essentially Western standards apply - do you have looks, charm, are you her 'type' etc. etc. (and yes you still end up spending $ or she'll go off you :))

The era of cheap encounters with top of the range girls is long gone in Kiev [By way of comparison, I spent last week end in Dallas and on the Friday night in the Living Room bar at W Hotel my friend and I were approached by a super hot 25 yr old blonde who made it known that she was available for room visits for around $200. I took her up on the offer on Sunday. Seriously she could easily match anything in RP, Kiev. PM me and I'll give you her number]

Hecker
05-29-08, 10:13
I think the foreigner in Kiev now essentially has 2 options. First is to be a good boy and search seriously for a wife/serious gf. This doesn't necessarily involve spending large amounts of cash (she'll want you to hang on to that for when she's married to you :)) but rather time, effort and patience.

But if you want to enjoy the party girls, you may have to take a leaf out of the local biznez dude's book. One key aspect to the way they spend their cash is not so much the amount they chuck around but the fact they don't expect any immediate return - they spend for the fun of it, not to get value for money. Foreigners are always looking for the cheapest flight, hotel room, taxi, restaurant, ho, whatever, and it tends not to create the right impression.

To be both player and frugal spender requires a move to the provinces - see QJump's posts. Or the far out Kiev suburbs, as per LS.

The third alternative is to find a girl who genuinely likes you for yourself. NOT by any means impossible, but then essentially Western standards apply - do you have looks, charm, are you her 'type' etc. etc. (and yes you still end up spending $ or she'll go off you :))

The era of cheap encounters with top of the range girls is long gone in Kiev [By way of comparison, I spent last week end in Dallas and on the Friday night in the Living Room bar at W Hotel my friend and I were approached by a super hot 25 yr old blonde who made it known that she was available for room visits for around $200. I took her up on the offer on Sunday. Seriously she could easily match anything in RP, Kiev. PM me and I'll give you her number]Kiev girls are mostly not available for marriage, more specifically very few girls want to leave Kiev and head for a foreign country. Kiev offers a lot of opportunities and life quality and entertainment are better than most cities in the West. Westerners who married Kiev girls were repeatedely cheated when they got out of town, cause the girls are in constant need of men.

If sb marries a girl from province and brings her to his country, the likelihood is that she will soon realize her value is much higher estimated in western countries and she has much more opportunities. She will have so many offers from other men and so many promises and when she sees first hand the level of appearance of western women, she will realize that it is better to leave her husband, she will have used him as a pivot to get an even better one in the new land of greater opportunities. So the husband will end to have spent thousands only to get an early divorce if he has married a girl much younger and prettier than him.

A player is always a player in Kiev or province. What is different are the expenses needed in the one city vs the other. Girls perceive foreigner as player in Kiev and as future groom in province. The other possibility is sponsor.

Girls used as fuckbodies, the old army of desperate girls whose only dream would be a hot night with a foreigner without hoping for sth more are not available anymore. They exist but they are not available to foreign tourist.

Ash1001
05-31-08, 14:27
Kiev offers a lot of opportunities and life quality and entertainment are better than most cities in the West

Yes, for GUYS.

Most Ukrainian girls would love to live in a Western city where political correctness, male/female pay equality and the near total lack of good looking women will all work massively to their advantage. Their market value will shoot through the roof.

In Kiev she is one of many attractive girls competing for the attention of a tiny number of rich Ukrainian men. In London she will be one of a tiny number of good looking girls in a city full of investment bankers and hedge fund managers.

They're not too dumb not to know this.

Cruiser D
05-31-08, 20:22
For foreign guys with money to spend, yes.

For local guys with money to spend, yes

For foreigners living in some rat hole left bank apartment, not so much.

For some Ukrainian guys who's idea of going out is hanging out on the street drink beer, umm, no not really.




Yes, for GUYS.

Hecker, I'd like to know what city you live in that you think "Kiev offers a lot of opportunities and life quality and entertainment are better than most cities in the West."

Hecker
05-31-08, 23:19
I don't mean the capital cities of the West. I mean the provincial towns where most guys who want to marry ukrainian girls come from. When a girl from Kiev goes there, she will have a true disappointment.

But a girl who lives in a small provincial ukrainian town will not face the same problem. So Kiev girls are more reluctant to abandon Ukraine than do girls in province. Basically marriage agencies seem to employ mostly girls from province.

Anyway the balance matters. How much you give for the relative result if all expenses are taken into account.

For example when I bring a czech girl to me, I spend 1000 euros for 10 days full of sex. If I go to provincial Ukraine, I will have to spend 1500 euros to get the same result but I will bang 3 girls in 10 days.

In Kiev I will have to spend double at least or more. And so on.

You judge the benefit/moneyxtime spent and you act accordingly.

Doctor_Skank
05-31-08, 23:56
Hecker, I'd like to know what city you live in that you think "Kiev offers a lot of opportunities and life quality and entertainment are better than most cities in the West."Quality of life and comfort are generally much higher in the West, at least the affluent West, however what I have heard from many EE returnees or heard stories from girls who had been abroad for extended periods of time is that if they don't have Slavic friends they get bored and homesick quickly and in particular girls find Western lifestyle stale and boring. People in the West don't have the same carefree abandoned approach to going out as the Slavs do.

Cruiser D
06-01-08, 05:03
I agree Doc, culture shock and being away from family is generally what sends FSU girls packing back to the motherland.

A Ukrainian girl I know has said this at various times, 'Lugansk is boring', 'Kyiv is boring', 'Boston is boring'. I'm sure she would also find Vegas, LA or NYC boring too. Unless someone was constantly entertaining her. What I conclude from all this is 1) She's high maintenance 2) She's boring.

You also have to remember that being club trawlers we are exposed to a certain sub set of people. Trust me there is just as much fun to be had tonight (it's Saturday) in provincal Boston as there is in Kyiv or Moscow (nevermind NYC, Miami, LA or LV). For a party girl (the type of girl we most commonly expose ourselves to - pun intended) in Moscow or Kyiv she's going to get bored anywhere where someone isn't fueling the good times with a boatload of money. With the right connections and/or money it just as easy to rock the boat in Detroit as it is in Moscow. So for Joe OlderMiddleClass, it probaby isn't a good idea to hook up with a vapid FSU club girl (or a club girl from anywhere for the matter). People tend to make their own situations in life. I like to use this phrase often, it's a catch phrase from my clubbing days in the 80's - Know who you are and dress accordingly. People need to be aware of who they are (if it was only that easy :) ). Miss Moscow CandyClubGirl isn't going to be happy living a normal life (anywhere) until she starts to get burned out in her late 20's. She'll only be happy if she's highlining - whether it's in Moscow, London, NYC, LA or Duluth.

Hecker - a serious girl is a serious girl. It doesn't matter if she's from Kyiv or Mariuopol. Is a Kyiv club girl going to be happy being married to Joe Serious, no. She's also not going to be happy be married to Yuri Serious in Kyiv either. Is super educated Kyiv smart girl looking to settle down and have a family life going to be happy to Joe Serious - whether it's in Detriot, Koln, Toulouse or Kyiv/Moscow? Sure she is, that is what she is looking for.

DJ FourMoney
06-01-08, 09:35
I agree Doc, culture shock and being away from family is generally what sends FSU girls packing back to the motherland.

A Ukrainian girl I know has said this at various times, 'Lugansk is boring', 'Kyiv is boring', 'Boston is boring'. I'm sure she would also find Vegas, LA or NYC boring too. Unless someone was constantly entertaining her. What I conclude from all this is 1) She's high maintence 2) She's boring.

You also have to remember that being club trawlers we are exposed to a certain sub set of people. Trust me there is just as much fun to be had tonight (it's Saturday) in provincal Boston as there is in Kyiv or Moscow (nevermind NYC, Miami, LA or LV). For a party girl (the type of girl we most commonly expose ourselves to - pun intended) in Moscow or Kyiv she's going to get bored anywhere where someone isn't fueling the good times with a boatload of money. With the right connections and/or money it just as easy to rock the boat in Detroit as it is in Moscow. So for Joe OlderMiddleClass, it probaby isn't a good idea to hook up with a vapid FSU club girl (or a club girl from anywhere for the matter). People tend to make their own situations in life. I like to use this phrase often, it's a catch phrase from my clubbing days in the 80's - Know who you are and dress accordingly. People need to be aware of who they are (if it was only that easy :) ). Miss Moscow CandyClubGirl isn't going to be happy living a normal life (anywhere) until she starts to get burned out in her late 20's. She'll only be happy if she's highlining - whether it's in Moscow, London, NYC, LA or Duluth.

Hecker - a serious girl is a serious girl. It doesn't matter if she's from Kyiv or Mariuopol. Is a Kyiv club girl going to be happy being married to Joe Serious, no. She's also not going to be happy be married to Yuri Serious in Kyiv either. Is super educated Kyiv smart girl looking to settle down and have a family life going to be happy to Joe Serious - whether it's in Detriot, Koln, Toulouse or Kyiv/Moscow? Sure she is, that is what she is looking for.

Give that man a cigar....

Western men have come over to the FSU and killed the "free pussy" market with lies and more lies. 10-15 years later and those too young to travel internationally 10-15 years ago want the same treatment many Western men glorified (over glorified as well) from days gone by.

I found a serious girl in Kiev, it isnt that hard...

Is she CandyClubGirl pretty - NO!

But I bet you can find something between CandyClub and No So Hot Serious Woman, that is if you want to have a serious LTR...


And as D said it doesn't matter if she's in The Natti, Krakow or Sacramento

Hecker
06-01-08, 10:05
There are two types of girls. Club girls and librarian types. Club girls are in many cases more difficult because they usually have attention deficit disorder. They cannot concentrate more than one minute on what you tell them. They need constant change and new stimulants to keep their mood high.

These girls are only interested in the foreigner as long as he spends money to keep them high spirited, that is money on drinks, shopping, their friends and so on. They are not interested in the foreigner himself but in the comfort he can provide and in many cases they do not combine the foreigner with the comfort he provides, that is they look down on him as worthless and get banged from real men.

For sure club girls are the worst around and most foreigners are likely to meet them in clubs in Kiev. There are also other common features with club girls like phone number flakes the next day after the meeting in club and a lot of excitability.

Internet girls do not usually belong to club girls because to stay in internet long as to make contacts you need a minimum of attention which club girls are lacking. On the other hand internet girls can be weird cause of isolation through the long hours in front of computer. Sth is not right with many of them, they are very weak and vulnerable and can be run over and cheated easily.

The street girls are the most normal and casual because they have normal day time activities. Anyway all this is another issue.

The more culture a girl has, the easier is to talk to and the greater is to build rapport with. You can talk with her about a wide variety of things and in depth as to build rapport. Girls from former communist countries have generally high culture due to widespread education. They go to opera, theatre, they visit galleries and museums, they read books etc. There is not so much materialism and antiintellectualism as it is rampant in the West although the situation gradually changes. So if sb speaks the language, has a normal culture and knows the slavic mentality, he will have no problem picking up girls very fast.

Orange Leo
06-01-08, 12:46
I think it is the fewest Ukraine girls which come back to Ukraine. Many divorce the men and live as single mothers where i live.

Cruiser D
06-01-08, 23:25
Hecker, the club girl dynamic is the same around the world. You missed out observing that dynamic because you probably weren't hitting Western clubs in your late teens/twenties. It has nothing at all to do with FSU/Foreigners. You are just basing your observations on your limited experience.

Most FSU girls don't spend their free time in front of computer - that is what work and a free internet connection is for.

DJ FourMoney
06-02-08, 09:10
Hecker, the club girl dynamic is the same around the world. You missed out observing that dynamic because you probably weren't hitting Western clubs in your late teens/twenties. It has nothing at all to do with FSU/Foreigners. You are just basing your observations on your limited experience.

Most FSU girls don't spend their free time in front of computer - that is what work and a free internet connection is for.

Yes Club Girls are the same the world over I don't think culture has much to do with it.

That being said, Discos/Clubs are used as a tool for "Normal" women to get out and meet local men and on occasion foreign men. In Kiev I think its safe to say the majority of foreign men local women tend to meet are Western Europeans and very seldom Americans.

Outside of Kiev, that's reduced down to almost nothing especially since this is the Dnipropetrovsk thread and I can only speak about the comings and goings of Americans.

Most Americans coming to Dnipro are there to meet somebody usually from a agency or a web site. I would say most of them are well into their 30's if not in their early 40's and 98% Caucasian.

I too would like to venture deeper into the Ukraine, not sure it would be worth my effort though as the smaller the towns get the less likely English is spoken, which of course is not a deal breaker but does make things a bit more diffcult and ensures the involvement of a 3rd party for communitcations....

Oh well nothing ventured as they say....

Fslag338
06-19-08, 22:59
I am coming to Ukraine every month since i have a business here since 3 years. I have had a beautiful girlfriend 23 years younger than i am. So I know a little also how they think about foreigners. And I am missing afew points in the discussion here:

* statistics: how reliable are government statistics in a country with an enormous black and grey circuit?

* attitude: what i am missing and is really a very important issue: they value foreigners (especially western europeans) for the way they treat women (modern thinking, emancipated, polite etc). Many Ukrainian-russian men are rude in their behaviour towards women.

* leaving UA: most of the girls I have become to know over the years would love to leave. Reason: although life is getting better... low purchasing power, visa needed for almost everywhere, attitude towards women, bad politics etc... stil not a country where you would love to have your kids grow up.
But many of them also do not understand the negatives of living abroad and only think about the advantages.

Doctor_Skank
06-19-08, 23:08
I am coming to Ukraine every month since i have a business here since 3 years. I have had a beautiful girlfriend 23 years younger than i am. So I know a little also how they think about foreigners. And I am missing afew points in the discussion here:

* statistics: how reliable are government statistics in a country with an enormous black and grey circuit?

* attitude: what i am missing and is really a very important issue: they value foreigners (especially western europeans) for the way they treat women (modern thinking, emancipated, polite etc). Many Ukrainian-russian men are rude in their behaviour towards women.

* leaving UA: most of the girls I have become to know over the years would love to leave. Reason: although life is getting better... low purchasing power, visa needed for almost everywhere, attitude towards women, bad politics etc... stil not a country where you would love to have your kids grow up.
But many of them also do not understand the negatives of living abroad and only think about the advantages.All true, good post. Only part I would differ on is the leaving aspect. I wouldn't say most want to leave... or better said, most don't have a realistic plan to leave. They might fantasize about it, but if it really came that they had a chance to leave many would stick with what they know and stay in UA.

Hecker
06-20-08, 00:38
I am coming to Ukraine every month since i have a business here since 3 years. I have had a beautiful girlfriend 23 years younger than i am. So I know a little also how they think about foreigners. And I am missing afew points in the discussion here:

* statistics: how reliable are government statistics in a country with an enormous black and grey circuit?

* attitude: what i am missing and is really a very important issue: they value foreigners (especially western europeans) for the way they treat women (modern thinking, emancipated, polite etc). Many Ukrainian-russian men are rude in their behaviour towards women.

* leaving UA: most of the girls I have become to know over the years would love to leave. Reason: although life is getting better... low purchasing power, visa needed for almost everywhere, attitude towards women, bad politics etc... stil not a country where you would love to have your kids grow up.

But many of them also do not understand the negatives of living abroad and only think about the advantages.1.Statistics.Government statistics are reliable regarding wages of average people.You add 40% black economy to count wages of rich people.

2.Attitude.In my opinion slavic attitude is better especially in the long term.A westerner is usually in the wrong frame of mind overvaluing women.It is better to keep their expectations low as Slavs do.

3.Leaving UA.In some places they want to leave.In other cities they do not want to leave.You have to search level of unemployment and magnitude of wages to find out in what cities are they likely to want to leave.

Fslag338
06-20-08, 20:48
1. I do not agree Hecker. In a ukrainian company of 10 people probably 5 are paid black, 3 grey (on the white payroll but for a much lower salary) and 2 white. The black economy is all over society from high to low, so not only in the top. See World Bank reports about corruption in UA.

2. We were not discussing what is yes or no the good attitude of men towards women, but how they see us.

3. Whether or not somebody wants to leave, is influenced by economic matters of course. But it is only one of many factors. Ukraine is probably one of the worst managed countries in Europe. The people in power only care about that power and filling their pockets. Almost nothing is invested in the community but only for private profit. Any court can be bought. Serious problems regarding energy and pollution. Still not a wonderful country to live!
But I agree with D Skank, they is a big difference between saying that you think about leaving, really having a plan and actually acting according to that plan. But isn't that everywhere? Leaving your own country for emigration is too big a step for most people unless they are very desperate.

Hecker
06-20-08, 21:59
1. I do not agree Hecker. In a ukrainian company of 10 people probably 5 are paid black, 3 grey (on the white payroll but for a much lower salary) and 2 white. The black economy is all over society from high to low, so not only in the top. See World Bank reports about corruption in UA.

2. We were not discussing what is yes or no the good attitude of men towards women, but how they see us.

3. Whether or not somebody wants to leave, is influenced by economic matters of course. But it is only one of many factors. Ukraine is probably one of the worst managed countries in Europe. The people in power only care about that power and filling their pockets. Almost nothing is invested in the community but only for private profit. Any court can be bought. Serious problems regarding energy and pollution. Still not a wonderful country to live!

But I agree with D Skank, they is a big difference between saying that you think about leaving, really having a plan and actually acting according to that plan. But isn't that everywhere? Leaving your own country for emigration is too big a step for most people unless they are very desperate.1. So what? What is your estimation of black money effect on girls' attitude?

2. They see us in positive way because they have illusions about the West. They think for example that the usual salary in Western Europe is 10000 euro per month.

3. I wrote you in some cities they want to leave, in some others they do not want to leave. They do not want to leave if they stay in Kiev, they are less likely to leave if they stay in Dnipro, they are more likely to want to leave if they come from Krivoy Rog, Lugansk, Mariupol etc.

Tits_Lover
06-21-08, 09:08
Hello sexpert mongers from UKR .... Do you recall this girl being working at GIA in the past ? Any idea/memory about her services ?
I saw her appearing in Vilnius recently ...

Sorry .... i posted in the wrong area .... it should belong to Kiev probably.

thx
TL

DJ FourMoney
06-21-08, 12:29
1. So what? What is your estimation of black money effect on girls' attitude?

2. They see us in positive way because they have illusions about the West. They think for example that the usual salary in Western Europe is 10000 euro per month.

3. I wrote you in some cities they want to leave, in some others they do not want to leave. They do not want to leave if they stay in Kiev, they are less likely to leave if they stay in Dnipro, they are more likely to want to leave if they come from Krivoy Rog, Lugansk, Mariupol etc.I couldn't agree more, just follow the popular Marriage Agencies...

Women in Moscow, St Pete, Minsk and Kiev would still like to leave. Maybe not as many as in the 90's but far more wanna leave than there are Western men serious enough to even visit the country in which they are from.

Sometimes I don't know what the focus of this broad is sometimes. On one side I think there are a few (myself included) that are serious about a LTR with a Eastern European woman and only dabble in P4P. Others are interested in chasing mainly freebies and only turning to P4P when that fails or they are bored by their current roster in their black book.

Some of are desperate to get any pussy at all and they think going to some remote part of a country will guarantee affordable services.

For the expense and trouble to get into Russia is, just go to Germany....

Kiev still is a better hunting ground for Freebies, STR or LTR women than many Western destinations, for whatever that is worth...

Alucard101
07-06-08, 23:22
Hello,

Does anyone have contact information from Nilia who worked months ago for Gia.com.ua?

Thanks for any info!

Bobus2568
07-14-08, 15:55
New site in Donetsk:

Look a new site http://www.elitegroup.dp.ua/

Uke Boy
07-14-08, 19:58
Looks like we have another site pimp.

Amazing how first-time posters give us news only about new sites that are just online, namely their own.

Bobus, fix your site before you jump on this site to promote it boy. It is too damned slow to load.

Also, start showing the faces of all the ladies, otherwise we will correctly think it is the usual bucket of lies and fakes.

D Mert
10-05-08, 14:39
Seems another trick site! Even l can't call the tel number sveta. L listen my voice thats all! As the others! Does anyone reach them?

D Mert
10-12-08, 20:41
Hi guys anyone can take a photo of sveta from donetsk escort?

Its very important for me!

Will you please send it.

She looks like my girlfriend in kiev very very much!

L all upset. Don't know what to think!

George Red
01-20-09, 01:26
Hi guys anyone can take a photo of sveta from donetsk escort?

Its very important for me!

Will you please send it.

She looks like my girlfriend in kiev very very much!

L all upset. Don't know what to think! Do not worry.

It is for sure.

Are you so stupid to take a woman from UA?

Explorer69
03-13-09, 11:51
this forum seems quite dead regarding this 3rd city of ukraine! i ask because i am in internet contact with a really hottie that lives a little outside dnepro. i will soon be in ukraine, and i was think to make a detour from kiev to dnepro. it is also possible to fly directly to dnepro from west europe. it could be fun to see something new.

however, in case it doesn't work with "my hottie" it is good to know about the alternatives:

1. any bar with pros and semipros?

2. good pick up places?

3. strip clubs? possibilities for take out?

anybody knows a good agency for apartment rental? i want high quality apartment with 1 bedroom, central location, high speed internet, preferable english tv channels and jacuzzi:)). quality is more important than price!

grateful for all suggestions and information!

Explorer69
03-15-09, 20:10
Since there was no response to my request for an update on Dnepropetrovsk, I really wonder if nobody has been there recently? The last better reports are like 1 year old. It cannot be true that nobody visited?

Zizz Bang
03-16-09, 03:39
I was in DNP for about a week last August and had a blast although I had only one encounter of an amorous nature. I would go back in a heartbeat though. This information is about six months old:

a) Moct Internet Cafe (don't remember its name, on the second floor). Great place to chill and several women trying discreetly to get attention. Connections can definitely be made here in the early evening, especially if you speak some basic Russian (as I do). After 10pm, nothing.

b) Just down the street is Labyrinth bar where I met the lovely Diana, who I hung out with for a couple of days. This is really a great bar but was practically desolate on weekdays. I really loved the jazz band in back, the drummer being an American-born Ukrainian. I was told that the place was empty not because the students were in Crimea but rather that everyone saved up money to go out on Friday OR Saturday, even during the summer. Still I went there practically every day and got even more attention.

c) On the Saturday night I was at the Reporter it was absolutely crawling with single women of loose morals waiting for men to approach. I was with two disapproving female colleagues so was hamstrung. Definitely check the place out. With the UAH so low compared to the USD, I expect the desperation factor to be even higher nowadays.

d) I got an apartment from mystay.org, definitely the way to go. My place was a decent set of rooms across from the TGIF (free wifi!) and the Opera.

Zizz

Explorer69
03-16-09, 09:21
I was in DNP for about a week last August and had a blast although I had only one encounter of an amorous nature. I would go back in a heartbeat though. This information is about six months old:

a) Moct Internet Cafe (don't remember its name, on the second floor). Great place to chill and several women trying discreetly to get attention. Connections can definitely be made here in the early evening, especially if you speak some basic Russian (as I do). After 10pm, nothing.

b) Just down the street is Labyrinth bar where I met the lovely Diana, who I hung out with for a couple of days. This is really a great bar but was practically desolate on weekdays. I really loved the jazz band in back, the drummer being an American-born Ukrainian. I was told that the place was empty not because the students were in Crimea but rather that everyone saved up money to go out on Friday OR Saturday, even during the summer. Still I went there practically every day and got even more attention.

c) On the Saturday night I was at the Reporter it was absolutely crawling with single women of loose morals waiting for men to approach. I was with two disapproving female colleagues so was hamstrung. Definitely check the place out. With the UAH so low compared to the USD, I expect the desperation factor to be even higher nowadays.

d) I got an apartment from mystay.org, definitely the way to go. My place was a decent set of rooms across from the TGIF (free wifi!) and the Opera.

ZizzThanks a lot! I don't know yet if I will go 100% or not, but this was very informative. Moct Internet Cafe, Labyrinth bar, Reporter, do you remmeber the address or the name of the street?

Zizz Bang
03-16-09, 18:19
Thanks a lot! I don't know yet if I will go 100% or not, but this was very informative. Moct Internet Cafe, Labyrinth bar, Reporter, do you remmeber the address or the name of the street?

Reporter, as is nearly everything, is on Karl Marx Street, which is quite lovely by the way. Moct is a big shopping center on the riverfront and you can't miss it. I don't recall the address for Labyrinth but its right around there too. Have a drink at the TGIF and talk to one of the bartenders, who all are friendly and speak good english and can let you know where everything is.

I personally wouldn't hesitate to go back to Dnipropetrovsk; it's not as easy as Kiev -- nor are women as jaded -- but it is definitely interesting with lots of potential.

Zizz

Mr Pomeroy
03-16-09, 23:39
Since there was no response to my request for an update on Dnepropetrovsk, I really wonder if nobody has been there recently? The last better reports are like 1 year old. It cannot be true that nobody visited?I have been to Dnepropetrovsk several times, and have struggled a little to come in real action. Not that I am very experienced in the game, but as I consider myself a decent looking guy in his middle thirties, I would accept a hard time in scoring freebies, but to have a hard time finding girls for pay, surprised me a little.

The Reporter is a good bar anyway, lots of girls there, none of them pushy. So I doubt they are working girls. Most of them seems to be out having a good time with their friends, as I would back home. A couple of times I have succeded in chatting up some girls, and go with them to another night club. Berlin. It was fun, but no sex in the end, and no openings for P4P either.

I visited the Labyrinth once or twice too. And I actually could not identify any pro's there either. Maybe it is me who lack the ability to spot them. Or it might be that I fail to be an interesting target. But I did not get contact with anyone. Not on the dance floor, nor in the bar. True, I don't speak Russian, but I never came close trying either.

MOCT. I know the center. Lot's of youth inside and outside in the evenings. Did not try the bar in the inet club, though. Maybe it is a lead.

There are probably a lot of other places in Dnepr. And I would certainly appreciate any info on the city, as I am going back in a month or so.

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Reiner Otto
03-17-09, 00:20
Have been in Dnjepro last year, too. Just for a weekend from Nikolaev.
I can also recommend the Internet Cafe in "Moct" shopping centre, and disco "Labyrinth". "Moct" looks more like the place for the Pros, and "Labyrinth" is more to the amateur style.

Did not know about "Reporter". In the centre, too ?
I need to check out next time.

Irish Lad
03-17-09, 04:38
Have been in Dnjepro last year, too. Just for a weekend from Nikolaev.

I can also recommend the Internet Cafe in "Moct" shopping centre, and disco "Labyrinth". "Moct" looks more like the place for the Pros, and "Labyrinth" is more to the amateur style.

Did not know about "Reporter". In the centre, too ?

I need to check out next time.Lads, lads, lads.

You'll find many girls in Ukraine are open to "presents" for intimate meetings. I am a regular visitor to Dnipro and can assure you that Labyrinth is a "take-away" with prices in the $100 a night range.

You'll find girls in the following places:.

1. On the street.

2. In the bars.

3. On the buses.

4. In restauarants.

5. On mail. Ru.com

6. Everywhere!

Someone mentioned "conservative"? Me arse. Here's our result from our last visit. Time from meeting to bed. 1 hour))

Mr Pomeroy
03-18-09, 09:02
Lads, lads, lads.

You'll find many girls in Ukraine are open to "presents" for intimate meetings. I am a regular visitor to Dnipro and can assure you that Labyrinth is a "take-away" with prices in the $100 a night range.Then I guess I just totally lack the talent.

At the dance floor I did not get close to eye contact with anyone. And honestly, I am not ugly, nor a bad dancer.

Hanging in the bar didn't help either.

Jeezus, when you don't score pro's, something must be very wrong.

Next time I guess I will have to put a 100$ on my forehead, and see if it helps.

Kurenda
03-18-09, 18:38
Irish,

You mentioned "Time from meeting to bed. 1 hour".

Are this girls real freebies which costed you nothing and just wanted to go with you - which makes them very slutty.

Or they were just there (in Labyrinth for example) waiting for customer who will pay their price - which makes them pros or semi-pros.

Doctor_Skank
03-18-09, 20:52
Then I guess I just totally lack the talent.

At the dance floor I did not get close to eye contact with anyone. And honestly, I am not ugly, nor a bad dancer.

Hanging in the bar didn't help either.

Jeezus, when you don't score pro's, something must be very wrong.

Next time I guess I will have to put a 100$ on my forehead, and see if it helps.The only way to score in EE is approach and talk to girls. Very rarely will anyone ever approach you and half the time you won't be getting any signals either.

No joke, sometimes the guys that do the WORST in EE are good-looking guys who expect EE girls to swoon over them. Doesn't really work that way.

The guys who do the best are always the social type, the ones that get a lot of shots on goal.

"If you don't shoot, you won't score". -Johann Cruyff

Kurenda
03-18-09, 23:13
Ds is right about that.

Most girls in FSU are brought up in the way that women does not approach a man. This will make her easy, slutty or whatever. When the girls is interested she will send some signal like smiling at you, looking, etc. Like any other place in the world probably. If she's really interesting there's a chance she will send a "messenger" like her girlfriend.

In FSU it's more important to be a "good man" than "good looking".

How many of you have seen good looking ukrainian girls with ugly ukrainian men? You see now?

So the only way is approach and talk. If you just hang there and wait for those girls to approach you nothing will happen. Yes there's a chance to receive "get lost creep". But this is talk is valid only if you speak good Russian (hard) or she speaks good english (even harder). In this case check money in your pocket and go for p4p. They all speak the language of money.

And one thing as a rule. If you can pick up girls in your own country you can pick them up in EE, FSU or other place. Will it be harder or easier it will depend on you. Again there are easy areas and hard areas. It's probably easier to pick up girl in Kiev than in some provincial town in Ukraine. It's generally easier to pick up girl in Ukraine than in Belarus or Armenia.

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Irish Lad
03-19-09, 04:35
Irish,

You mentioned "Time from meeting to bed. 1 hour".

Are this girls real freebies which costed you nothing and just wanted to go with you - which makes them very slutty.

Or they were just there (in Labyrinth for example) waiting for customer who will pay their price - which makes them pros or semi-pros.To be fair my secret weapon is Katya. Many girls find her very sexual. I just do the closing on our behalf. Goes something like this " You like Katya?", "Yes", "ok, let's go home, you me and Katya". Works everytime.

Explorer69
03-19-09, 11:54
I started with questions about Dnepro because I might go there in the near future. Still I don't know if I will, but thanks guys for all this great information.

If I go I will write a report!

Kurenda
03-19-09, 18:48
So Irish you "secret weapon" is Katya.

Presume the girl with copper red head.

She is some kind of lesbian, bisexual or what?

Now do you think withour her your chances without her will be much smaller?

And also since this girls find Katya very sexual are they also in the lesbian sphere or something.

Mr Pomeroy
03-19-09, 21:25
I started with questions about Dnepro because I might go there in the near future. Still I don't know if I will, but thanks guys for all this great information.

If I go I will write a report!Yes, do so.

When do you plan to go?

I am planning a trip late April myself.

Mr Pomeroy
03-19-09, 21:27
To be fair my secret weapon is Katya. Many girls find her very sexual. I just do the closing on our behalf. Goes something like this " You like Katya?", "Yes", "ok, let's go home, you me and Katya". Works everytime.What a weapon indeed!

Happy hunting.

LifeSavour
03-20-09, 13:46
To be fair my secret weapon is Katya. Many girls find her very sexual. I just do the closing on our behalf. Goes something like this " You like Katya?", "Yes", "ok, let's go home, you me and Katya". Works everytime.Did you learn this from ME & Olga?

Irish Lad
03-23-09, 06:54
Did you learn this from ME & Olga?No.


So Irish you "secret weapon" is Katya.

Presume the girl with copper red head.

She is some kind of lesbian, bisexual or what?

Now do you think withour her your chances without her will be much smaller?

And also since this girls find Katya very sexual are they also in the lesbian sphere or something.Correct.

Bi-sexual.

No.

Yes. Many girls here are at least bi-curious.

IL

Bez Bezarra
03-24-09, 01:14
I do the closing.

"You like Katya?"
"Yes",
"ok, let's go".

Works everytime.



So, what's the opening?

And does this work on girls that are only alone?

On girls that are usually already drunk?

Irish, you've already put yourself in the Under 30 and good looking category, right?

Will this still work for you in 15-20 years?

Who likes these girls more, you or Katya?

What's her cut? ($)

Irish Lad
03-24-09, 07:20
So, what's the opening?

And does this work on girls that are only alone?

On girls that are usually already drunk?

Irish, you've already put yourself in the Under 30 and good looking category, right?

Will this still work for you in 15-20 years?

Who likes these girls more, you or Katya?

What's her cut? ($)No usual opening. All depends on atmosphere etc.

It depends, sometimes bi-girls are with friends and they don't want them to find out. We don't do drunk.

Wrong. 44, normal looking. Never claimed otherwise.

http://www.internationalsexguide. Info/forum/showthread.php? T=815 In 15 years? New strategies will be needed I guess.

I'm not fussy))) So always important that Katya likes the girls. Doesn't work otherwise.

Cut? None. Katya's my girlfriend!

Kurenda
03-24-09, 21:15
Since many kinds in Ukraine today are living off junk food USA style, experts predicts there will be dramatic increase of fat people in Ukraine in the near future. By that time maybe ukrainian girls will not be that attractive anyway.

But for those who like the fat there will no problems.

Horn Dog
06-14-09, 00:19
Well, this being my second trip to Ukraine (the last one in April for 3 days), I decided to do my research. Read up, checked out the sites, set up the dates before I arrived on June 9th. I was supposed to be here for a week for work, but due to last minute changes spent 2 days and headed back to Kiev.

Stayed at the Caspiy Hotel since it was closer to town, though I booked at the Bartolomeo hotel but found out it was not really within walking distance to town. Had some dates set up with girls from flirt.com. Ua and met the first one Ekaterina, really hot, tall blonde at the MOST city center mall at 6 pm We went for coffee and the first thing she said was that she hated smokers, and basically that was that. Should have read her profile closer. The next one wasn't scheduled until the next day, but I told her that I had to cut my trip short and she said that she'd come right away if I paid for the cab, 400 UAH from Dneprodzerzhinsk. Oksana, 36, single mom. Should have known her photos were a few years old and about 20 lbs lighter. We had some drinks in the room then she sprang it on me. Mother in hospital, etc and needed some cash. By this time we were on second base so I said okay. Wasn't thinking with my big head and gave her 100 USD. She said she had to go to her sick mom, and that was that. For anyone counting, that was 2 for 2. By this time it was almost midnight, and I had another girl set up for tomorrow. Turns out she was at a club called Paris with a friend. I woke my Russian speaking buddy up and we headed to the club. No sport shoes we were told. Olga was a hot 23 year old redhead. She came out and said to go back and change and join her. We got back to the hotel and I told my buddy to forget about it. I had blue balls by now and went online. http://intimdnepr.net which I found from one of the reports here. Called Karina, got a nyet and the line went dead. Then decided to call Eugene, a blonde. No English, but she got a friend who spoke English to set it up. Again the girl who showed didn't quite look like her photo. I didn't care by this time and just went for it. Nothing to write about and I wouldn't recommend her either. 300 UAH. I had a flight in the afternoon and wanted to at least have one good one in Dnipropetrovsk. Went to http://www.megateens. Info which again I found from one the reports here. Called Liliya, a blonde hottie, 350 UAH, spoke basic English and she could come in 30 minutes. It was 11 am So I called the front desk for a late check out at 12:30. Knock on the door and a tall brunette was standing there. No English. I asked what happened to Liliya, but all she said was, "yes, no? ". I thought, what the hell, might as well. I love tall girls, and after a quick shower we got it on. Everything covered of course. After a nice BJ turned her around for doggy, and damn it, she had her period! She ran off to the bathroom, came out all apologetic and finished off with a rushed cbj.

Well, Dnepropetrovsk was a bust, had 3 other girls set up from flirt.com. Ua but I thought it'd be better to head out to Kiev instead. Caught the 3 pm Flight and was in Kiev by 4.

To be continued.

G Schyman
06-24-09, 11:03
Thank you for the report. A taxi from Dneprodzherzhinsk to Dnipro should only be maximum 200 UAH. She was tryíng to scam you there as well.

G Schyman



Well, this being my second trip to Ukraine (the last one in April for 3 days), I decided to do my research. Read up, checked out the sites, set up the dates before I arrived on June 9th. I was supposed to be here for a week for work, but due to last minute changes spent 2 days and headed back to Kiev.

Stayed at the Caspiy Hotel since it was closer to town, though I booked at the Bartolomeo hotel but found out it was not really within walking distance to town. Had some dates set up with girls from flirt.com. Ua and met the first one Ekaterina, really hot, tall blonde at the MOST city center mall at 6 pm We went for coffee and the first thing she said was that she hated smokers, and basically that was that. Should have read her profile closer. The next one wasn't scheduled until the next day, but I told her that I had to cut my trip short and she said that she'd come right away if I paid for the cab, 400 UAH from Dneprodzerzhinsk. Oksana, 36, single mom. Should have known her photos were a few years old and about 20 lbs lighter. We had some drinks in the room then she sprang it on me. Mother in hospital, etc and needed some cash. By this time we were on second base so I said okay. Wasn't thinking with my big head and gave her 100 USD. She said she had to go to her sick mom, and that was that. For anyone counting, that was 2 for 2. By this time it was almost midnight, and I had another girl set up for tomorrow. Turns out she was at a club called Paris with a friend. I woke my Russian speaking buddy up and we headed to the club. No sport shoes we were told. Olga was a hot 23 year old redhead. She came out and said to go back and change and join her. We got back to the hotel and I told my buddy to forget about it. I had blue balls by now and went online. http://intimdnepr.net which I found from one of the reports here. Called Karina, got a nyet and the line went dead. Then decided to call Eugene, a blonde. No English, but she got a friend who spoke English to set it up. Again the girl who showed didn't quite look like her photo. I didn't care by this time and just went for it. Nothing to write about and I wouldn't recommend her either. 300 UAH. I had a flight in the afternoon and wanted to at least have one good one in Dnipropetrovsk. Went to http://www.megateens. Info which again I found from one the reports here. Called Liliya, a blonde hottie, 350 UAH, spoke basic English and she could come in 30 minutes. It was 11 am So I called the front desk for a late check out at 12:30. Knock on the door and a tall brunette was standing there. No English. I asked what happened to Liliya, but all she said was, "yes, no? ". I thought, what the hell, might as well. I love tall girls, and after a quick shower we got it on. Everything covered of course. After a nice BJ turned her around for doggy, and damn it, she had her period! She ran off to the bathroom, came out all apologetic and finished off with a rushed cbj.

Well, Dnepropetrovsk was a bust, had 3 other girls set up from flirt.com. Ua but I thought it'd be better to head out to Kiev instead. Caught the 3 pm Flight and was in Kiev by 4.

To be continued.

Cruiser D
06-25-09, 03:24
I was sitting at Irish Lad's table at Shooters a couple of months ago. It was quite a large group of people. 4 or so girl, 4 or so guys. Numbers varied during the course of the night.

When IL left he took all the girls at the table with him back to his place. :D


No usual opening. All depends on atmosphere etc.

It depends, sometimes bi-girls are with friends and they don't want them to find out. We don't do drunk.

Wrong. 44, normal looking. Never claimed otherwise.

http://www.internationalsexguide. Info/forum/showthread.php? T=815 In 15 years? New strategies will be needed I guess.

I'm not fussy))) So always important that Katya likes the girls. Doesn't work otherwise.

Cut? None. Katya's my girlfriend!

Irish Lad
06-29-09, 10:47
I was sitting at Irish Lad's table at Shooters a couple of months ago. It was quite a large group of people. 4 or so girl, 4 or so guys. Numbers varied during the course of the night.

When IL left he took all the girls at the table with him back to his place. :DThat was my 1st 5some))) A perfect example of going with the flow. One of our regulars joined us that night along with 2 of her friends who didn't know about our 3somes until then. Funnily enough, when they were told, they both wanted in. You may recall Katya leaning over telling me that the girls all wanted group sex and what did I think about that. I took all of 1 microsecond to say "OK".

I seem to recall leaving yourself and Hamster with some other friends for company?

Namster
07-01-09, 22:36
I recall that was a great night.


That was my 1st 5some))) A perfect example of going with the flow. One of our regulars joined us that night along with 2 of her friends who didn't know about our 3somes until then. Funnily enough, when they were told, they both wanted in. You may recall Katya leaning over telling me that the girls all wanted group sex and what did I think about that. I took all of 1 microsecond to say "OK".

I seem to recall leaving yourself and Hamster with some other friends for company?

Cruiser D
07-02-09, 22:02
You left me with a semi pro looking for love who didn't want to give any. :P Or was that the night some expat hand delivered his girlfriend to me, I can't remember.

It was a good night tho, I enjoyed myself.

The reason why I left early that last night was because they didn't give us any pretzel sticks, bastards.

It Travel
07-11-09, 08:58
That was my 1st 5some))) A perfect example of going with the flow. One of our regulars joined us that night along with 2 of her friends who didn't know about our 3somes until then. Funnily enough, when they were told, they both wanted in. You may recall Katya leaning over telling me that the girls all wanted group sex and what did I think about that. I took all of 1 microsecond to say "OK".

I seem to recall leaving yourself and Hamster with some other friends for company?

Oh God IL... you really HAD TO THINK ? To a such proposal? Just drill them! ;) ;)

IT

Skane Henrik
01-12-10, 17:24
I am off to Dnipro to meet a girl. We have had contact for some time and she seems to be honest and open girl. But of course, internet is internet, if everything goes wrong, where should I go in Dnipropetrovsk? I will stay at this hotel, Hotel Oktober, but as everything in Ukraine, they changed to name to October in Ukrainian ;.))) http://hotel-zhovtneviy.dp.ua

From flirt I have found 2 girls for 50 $ per hour, and a weekend (2 nights) for 400$. But some girls seem to think that they can charge 200$ an hour, Not for me. Usually they are not so pretty, and always has a child who needs medicin, well you know the story.

They only thing I worry about in Ukraine, are dogs. I am scared for normal dogs in lace in a normal country, it is differant in Ukraine.

But if I like women, what to do.

Any ideas and suggestion about DNK, much appriecated.

Casparza
01-15-10, 15:18
Hi there,

I'll be Dnipro after 10 days later. And there is not too much info abot Dnipro.

I'v got some questions, please let me know if you have any information.

- Is there any massage parlor at the Dnipro?

- If you don't have to much time and if you don't like the escort servise, What is the easy way to find a girl? I saw there is disco as labyrenth. Anything else?

Thanks

Mr Pomeroy
01-19-10, 14:01
Hi Henrik,

I've travelled to Dnepr for five years now, and I cannot remember a single dog.

As to the hotel, I've stopped using them. They are expensive and low standard. You usually get more for the money, and maximum flexibility with renting an apartment.

If all things go wrong, there are some disco's in the city where you can meet girls that are up for it.

Good luck, and report back!


I am off to Dnipro to meet a girl. We have had contact for some time and she seems to be honest and open girl. But of course, internet is internet, if everything goes wrong, where should I go in Dnipropetrovsk? I will stay at this hotel, Hotel Oktober, but as everything in Ukraine, they changed to name to October in Ukrainian ;.))) http://hotel-zhovtneviy.dp.ua

From flirt I have found 2 girls for 50 $ per hour, and a weekend (2 nights) for 400$. But some girls seem to think that they can charge 200$ an hour, Not for me. Usually they are not so pretty, and always has a child who needs medicin, well you know the story.

They only thing I worry about in Ukraine, are dogs. I am scared for normal dogs in lace in a normal country, it is differant in Ukraine.

But if I like women, what to do.

Any ideas and suggestion about DNK, much appriecated.

Sean EZ
02-23-10, 01:25
Gents,

what are the top couple of clubs in Dnipro, and how much is it to get a table with bottle service?

Prosal
02-23-10, 01:38
Gents, what are the top couple of clubs in Dnipro
Check this site : http://www.geometria.ru/ (click on the country required and then choose your city).

Great resource to know where to go out and what's "in" from Uzhgorod to Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky.

Dnepro : http://dnepr.geometria.ru/

Sean EZ
02-23-10, 03:18
Check this site : http://www.geometria.ru/ (click on the country required and then choose your city).

Great resource to know where to go out and what's "in" from Uzhgorod to Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky.

Dnepro : http://dnepr.geometria.ru/Hey Prosal, how have you been man? Thanks for the info. Going to be in conference in London and decided to check Dnipro out for the weekend. Got a flight on Austrian air for miles. Also considering FKK club in Germany. That's going to be straight up sex for $$$ no catching love there. What's your fav spot at the moment? I haven't been away from NY in awhile.

Prosal
02-23-10, 10:59
What's your fav spot at the moment?In this period of krisis nothing can beat the 2 € lap-dancing and the 1 € long-neck Baltika at FM Bar in Tashkent.

:D

Prosal
02-23-10, 11:01
What's your fav spot at the moment?
Hi Sean

In this period of krisis nothing can beat the 2 € lap-dance and the 1 € large Baltika at FM Bar in Tashkent !! (an heavenly place filled with truly hot russian-ethnic girls BTW!!).

:D

Mr Pomeroy
02-23-10, 15:46
Gents,

what are the top couple of clubs in Dnipro, and how much is it to get a table with bottle service?Paris and Opera are usually crowded with chicks.

There is a new one "Rio" that I did not visit yet.

Reiner Otto
02-23-10, 23:03
Gents,

what are the top couple of clubs in Dnipro, and how much is it to get a table with bottle service?I liked "Labyrinth", but 2 years ago already. Several small dancing areas and a jazz spot, everything in the cellar.

Cruiser D
02-25-10, 16:27
Tables in the FSU generally come with bottle service.


Gents,

what are the top couple of clubs in Dnipro, and how much is it to get a table with bottle service?

Sean EZ
03-05-10, 01:43
Thanks for the info gentlemen.

Yantis
06-06-10, 04:45
Opera and Paris its the best club in town Rio near river its for prive party and married fiesta not for good Hunter! Paris its two clubs one for dance and one for karaoke 100 grivnas tickets for in best regards from Greece.

Obman
07-16-10, 16:51
Can anyone suggest any reliable agency or website renting apartments in Dnepropetrovsk?

Thanks in advance!

Nineinch
08-24-10, 07:35
Can anyone suggest any reliable agency or website renting apartments in Dnepropetrovsk?

Thanks in advance!. Can recommend Artur to you in Dnipro. He speaks English and is used.

. Working with Westerners.

Web site: www.Dneprapartments. Narod. Ru

Tel.

+380503205956

I can also recommend Anna to you in Dnipro. She speaks good English also.

Deals with Westerners.

infoatmystay.org

www.MyStay.org

49000 Karl.

Av 60, room 29

Dnepropetrovsk, Ukraine

(38056) 7444183 38-067

Pluto2
08-31-10, 15:42
www.sex.dp.ua

Goldmine Russian language web site with lots of independent ads, the few that post a price are around 500gr

Google translation tool will allow you to read the ads, which don't specify if the girls speak any language other than Russian. Suggest you get a good Russian sentence asking if they speak English and text it to them, or find someone who speaks Russian to make the calls for you.

Pluto2
08-31-10, 17:14
http://intimdnepr.com/

Rembo
10-12-10, 14:50
Someone has already tried?

http://seks-podruzhki.ru/main.php?p=1303&sub=1209

Sponsor74
10-13-10, 20:37
It seems no internationa airport there or cloese to this city.Therefore how is the best way to go there in winter end of December? by train ? bus? how many hours? kms? price? Thanks for any advise

Uke Boy
10-13-10, 21:55
It seems no internationa airport there or cloese to this city.Therefore how is the best way to go there in winter end of December? by train ? bus? how many hours? kms? price? Thanks for any adviseWhy didn't or don't you just do a Google search by yourself? I just did it by placing the words "Kiev to Dnipropetrovsk" and got all the information you asked for and it is up to date.

Sponsor74
10-13-10, 22:45
Why didn't or don't you just do a Google search by yourself? I just did it by placing the words "Kiev to Dnipropetrovsk" and got all the information you asked for and it is up to date.

I have done this BUT no infor of the best transportation? bus? train?

Sorry I found now this information in Google Map but wonder if it is the best way for Westeners without local languages???. It seems there in Dnipropetrovsk, good action and good girls for a better price than Kiev therefore I want to try this new location for me

Uke Boy
10-14-10, 10:44
I have done this BUT no infor of the best transportation? bus? train?

Sorry I found now this information in Google Map but wonder if it is the best way for Westeners without local languages???. It seems there in Dnipropetrovsk, good action and good girls for a better price than Kiev therefore I want to try this new location for meSponsor, I just did it again and found air, bus and train information, all in English. If I can do it, why can't you? What's your problem? Do you want others to do your work for you?

As for the best way, only you can decide that depending on your schedule, needs and your ability to pay.

Sponsor74
10-14-10, 22:18
Sponsor, I just did it again and found air, bus and train information, all in English. If I can do it, why can't you? What's your problem? Do you want others to do your work for you?

As for the best way, only you can decide that depending on your schedule, needs and your ability to pay.
sorry for disturbing you. Now I found all the information I need even airport and connections from Vienna. Once again soory

Sponsor74
02-02-11, 21:47
. Can recommend Artur to you in Dnipro. He speaks English and is used.

Working with Westerners.

Web site:

www.Dneprapartments. Narod. Ru

Tel.

+380503205956.

I can also recommend Anna to you in Dnipro. She speaks good English also.

Deals with Westerners.

infoatmystay.org

www.MyStay.org

49000 Karl.

Av 60, room 29.

Dnepropetrovsk, Ukraine.

(38056) 7444183 38-067Hello, fr my next trip to Dnepro I tried to contact this agency Mystay. Org last week but until today no answer. Is this agengy still working there? Or any other agency to recomend? How is in March there? Full of tourist? Enough girls? Where are they? Locals, streets? Your advice is welcome

Zinda
05-26-11, 03:27
Planning a trip to dnipropetroslk. Would any one have following info.

1. Is there any park / s in the city? Any suggestions for rental apartment in a nice central area near night life (disco, casino etc) near health club / gym and park (for jogging ).

2. Would like to take Russian language classes. Any info about Russian language schools?

Thanks

Markus29
05-27-11, 18:08
www.sex.dp.ua

Goldmine Russian language web site with lots of independent ads, the few that post a price are around 500gr.

Google translation tool will allow you to read the ads, which don't specify if the girls speak any language other than Russian. Suggest you get a good Russian sentence asking if they speak English and text it to them, or find someone who speaks Russian to make the calls for you. I have tried to check this website, but I don't know how could I see the photos of girl, is it really working? I don't see prices even. Site looks really good, but still searching that how it works?

Markus29
05-27-11, 18:26
So I have read old post from Romanov and I'm really surprised about this city,

I'm going to dnepro this summer and would stay there for more than a month and I would really like to explore.

This city and night clubs where I would like to find some non- pros because thats the real fun I think.

So I would really like to speak with Romanov or some1 like Romanov who has been in this city for long time and has explored soooo well. So hit me back please.

Sponsor74
05-27-11, 19:56
Planning a trip to dnipropetroslk. Would any one have following info.

1. Is there any park / s in the city? Any suggestions for rental apartment in a nice central area near night life (disco, casino etc) near health club / gym and park (for jogging ).

2. Would like to take Russian language classes. Any info about Russian language schools?

ThanksI was there last year and was OK. Cheaper than Kiew BUT the flights are more expensive. Apartments are also cheaper. Try to contact mystay. Org, they have apartment in center of this small city

Tomux 22
05-18-12, 14:57
I was there last year and was OK. Cheaper than Kiew BUT the flights are more expensive. Apartments are also cheaper. Try to contact mystay. Org, they have apartment in center of this small cityTaking a train is much better option. There is express train that go there. Or you have an option taking a night train that takes much longer time.

Sponsor74
07-02-12, 21:14
Taking a train is much better option. There is express train that go there. Or you have an option taking a night train that takes much longer time.Do you have the schedules and prices? Or web site in English?

Uke Boy
07-03-12, 17:54
Do you have the schedules and prices? Or web site in English?Go to.

http://www.uz.gov.ua/en/

Which is the site for Ukrzaliznytsia, the Ukrainian railway.

Then click on the online booking link. From Kiev you want to leave from the main rail station which is Kyiv-Pasazhyrsky. In Dnepropetrovsk, you want to arrive at Dnipropetrovsk Holovny.

After that, you can take your choice of trains, seats and prices. Now it is entirely up to you.

The site seems to be easy to work. I did hear complaints about the booking / payment process during Euro-2012 but like anything else here, you have to try it and also do a lot of praying as well.

BTW, the site is for tickets and travel for all of Ukraine and for all international trains that run to/from/through Ukraine.

Sponsor74
07-05-12, 20:53
Go to.

http://www.uz.gov.ua/en/

Which is the site for Ukrzaliznytsia, the Ukrainian railway.

Then click on the online booking link. From Kiev you want to leave from the main rail station which is Kyiv-Pasazhyrsky. In Dnepropetrovsk, you want to arrive at Dnipropetrovsk Holovny.

After that, you can take your choice of trains, seats and prices. Now it is entirely up to you.

The site seems to be easy to work. I did hear complaints about the booking / payment process during Euro-2012 but like anything else here, you have to try it and also do a lot of praying as well.

BTW, the site is for tickets and travel for all of Ukraine and for all international trains that run to / from / through Ukraine.Dear Uke Boy, thanks for your valuable assistance. I check the link and very usefull and in English too. Prices are very competive if you compare with the expensive flights between these 2 cities. I only wonder the quality and safety BUT as you said I have to pay & pray. Anyway maybe a trip with the train is adventure and who knows maybe a chance to know normal local girls. Thanks again for your help

Sturmer
07-26-12, 22:23
I have tried to check this website, but I don't know how could I see the photos of girl, is it really working? I don't see prices even. Site looks really good, but still searching that how it works?Beware, eset antivirus shows viruses and block this website.

Member #4352
07-27-12, 15:00
I think I know that girl. Does her second name starts with B? And her birthday is in May?


After reading here so much I would also like to share my experiance with Ekaterina from Dnepr.

I meet her in Facebook and after a visit we decided to spend a vacation together in Egpyt.

She is a nice girl, but much interested in presents. She always reminded me weeks before at her birthday, at valentines and other events)

After all I have to say it was a very nice time with her in Egpyt.

I poste this in the Dnipropetrovsk selection because she lives there and I meet her also there the first time.

Please don't ask me for any contact information. I will not share it. Sorry.

CityHunter77
07-28-12, 18:13
After all I have to say it was a very nice time with her in Egpyt.

I poste this in the Dnipropetrovsk selection because she lives there and I meet her also there the first time.

Please don't ask me for any contact information I will not share it. Sorry.Why have you posted her photos if you are not willing to share her contact info.

Just seems a little strange

Member #4201
07-30-12, 13:52
I think I know that girl. Does her second name starts with B? And her birthday is in May?Sorry I was offline for some days. Yes I think we are talking about the same girl.

Ander Jeff
01-12-13, 13:52
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Moski
05-24-13, 19:40
Hi everyone.

I will be visiting Dnipropetrovsk in June and I will be greatful to get and advise or tips on where to go and how to pick girls there!

Many thanks in advance.

Moski
05-30-13, 11:58
Can't believe that its dry in Dnipropetrovsk, I really need some help guys, LOL.

Thanks in advance.

Moski


Hi everyone.

I will be visiting Dnipropetrovsk in June and I will be greatful to get and advise or tips on where to go and how to pick girls there!

Many thanks in advance.

Sean EZ
09-17-13, 13:30
Just arrived here today. Quick search on http://www.sex.dp.ua/ Shows all ads are dated and there are no photos. There must be alternative website for this.

Sean EZ
09-18-13, 13:36
http://gorod.dp.ua/out/clubs/oneplace/?place_id=6206

Was not bad last night, Tue night, lots of girls. Can't be sure if they are working, looked to me most are just girls out to have fun. Small club but not bad at all for a weekday night.

Labirint is another club, has 4-5 rooms but no action at all weekdays.

If anyone has reliable escort or apartment number please do post or PM to me. It's good to have day time options

SailorSailor
06-06-14, 21:43
Hi everyone.

I will be visiting Dnipropetrovsk in June and I will be greatful to get and advise or tips on where to go and how to pick girls there!

Many thanks in advance.Did you visit dnepro as you planned? No comments?

Moski
06-07-14, 11:48
Did you visit dnepro as you planned? No comments?Yes I did, twice Sept and Dec, hooked up with a nice girl and used the internet for call girls to come to my appartment, cost 800 uah per hour! Very beautiful girls, 8 & 9 !

I'm planning to go there again soon, have you been there?

Moski

Sponsor74
06-08-14, 22:42
Yes I did, twice Sept and Dec, hooked up with a nice girl and used the internet for call girls to come to my appartment, cost 800 uah per hour! Very beautiful girls, 8 & 9 !

I'm planning to go there again soon, have you been there?

MoskiHello I was in Dnepropetrovk too last year in Summer. Apartments are cheaper than in Kiev but flights from Zurich very expensive and bad connections. Price for girls similar than in Kiev and not big quantity like in Kiev but are more Non Pro mainly in Laberinth, shopping malls or around the river. The city is not big but nice. I plan a trip soon and don't know the current prices and maybe desperate girls due to the problems in Ukraine.

Golda Meir
06-28-14, 05:30
I'll be there next week. What's the atmosphere like?

Member #4274
06-28-14, 13:46
I'll be there next week. What's the atmosphere like?I have a buddy living in DP and he said the situation was completely calm. The main oligarch in DP is pro-Ukrainian and has quelled any sign of political unrest in the city. You should have no problems.

Jolion
08-18-15, 15:19
Hi!

I am going to throw one out in to the dark space; but where are the best area to pick up a girl by car in Dnipropetrovsk?

All answers and inputs are much appreciated.

Ash1001
09-01-15, 15:27
Hi Guys,

Staying for a long week end (Thu-Tue) and looking for a wingman for the disco / freebie scene. Also interested in amateur p4p and decent strip clubs.

Cheers,
A-1001.

Ash1001
09-01-15, 15:44
I'll be there next week. What's the atmosphere like?So how was it?

Timmy21
09-02-15, 19:03
Hi Guys,

Staying for a long week end (Thu-Tue) and looking for a wingman for the disco / freebie scene. Also interested in amateur p4p and decent strip clubs.

Cheers,
A-1001.I'll be visiting this city in February, I am staying for 76 days with the hope of securing a long term visa, you may want to check out this site Minuet. Biz if you can read Russian many of the girls listed from Dnep have reviews.

Moski
11-19-15, 12:58
I'll be visiting this city in February, I am staying for 76 days with the hope of securing a long term visa, you may want to check out this site Minuet. Biz if you can read Russian many of the girls listed from Dnep have reviews.I will be in Dnipropetrovsk next week, any tips for top girls?

I have made some contacts in travelgirls site but not found what I want!

Any help and tips will be highly appreciated!

Thanks.

Moski.

Timmy21
11-20-15, 18:14
Hello Moski,

Actually, I've never been to Dnepropetrovsk, I will arrive in this city in a few months, and spend about 80 days there.

I lived in Ukraine (far east) for several years, I had to leave about 17 months ago because of the war, I am very excited to return. I picked.

Dnepropetrovsk simply because I've heard many good things about this city, I am not really keen on nightclubs or strip-clubs, so I can't comment on.

These places, but I do like the fact that this city is full of cozy cafes, and has a really nice river front. I can speak and read Russian fairly well.

I have always had very good success with girls in cafes, I am talking about the servers. With many servers, once they see me.

A few times, I start chatting up the girls I am interested in. In Ukraine, cafes and restaurants are my favorite hunting grounds. I am sure I will also use the.

Site Ukrgo.com and the minuet site as well, I like to call these kind of sites and have escorts come to my apartment and spend a day or two.

I really enjoy the massage salons, and I am sure Dnepropetrovsk will have plenty to chose from. I discovered this site just last week, you may want to check it out, ukrmodel.net. This site; if legit, has many.

Beautiful girls listed from Odessa, Kharkov and Dnepropetrovsk. But, they come at a fairly high price, if I have no success for the first few days, I just may give them a call. Good luck, and please write a brief trip.

Report when you return.


I will be in Dnipropetrovsk next week, any tips for top girls?

I have made some contacts in travelgirls site but not found what I want!

Any help and tips will be highly appreciated!

Thanks.

Moski.===========================================

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Moski
11-22-15, 18:44
Thanks Timmy21.

I have tried your mentioned below links and the first one is in Russian which I don't speak at all, I have been to Dnepropetrovsk twice before, I had some good success but not like Kiev.

I never go to night clubs cafes and shopping malls are the best at day time, massages are the worse in Ukraine as a whole, beautiful girls but cold as the Northern cold.

Once you get the right contact E. G. good agency or good direct contact don't be greedy stay with that and you will have a fantastic time. My best option is travelgirls site, try it you will be suprised.

Your Moski.


Hello Moski,

Actually, I've never been to Dnepropetrovsk, I will arrive in this city in a few months, and spend about 80 days there.

I lived in Ukraine (far east) for several years, I had to leave about 17 months ago because of the war, I am very excited to return. I picked.

Dnepropetrovsk simply because I've heard many good things about this city, I am not really keen on nightclubs or strip-clubs, so I can't comment on.

These places, but I do like the fact that this city is full of cozy cafes, and has a really nice river front. I can speak and read Russian fairly well.

I have always had very good success with girls in cafes, I am talking about the servers. With many servers, once they see me.

A few times, I start chatting up the girls I am interested in. In Ukraine, cafes and restaurants are my favorite hunting grounds. I am sure I will also use the.

Site Ukrgo.com and the minuet site as well, I like to call these kind of sites and have escorts come to my apartment and spend a day or two.

I really enjoy the massage salons, and I am sure Dnepropetrovsk will have plenty to chose from. I discovered this site just last week, you may want to check it out, ukrmodel.net. This site; if legit, has many.

Beautiful girls listed from Odessa, Kharkov and Dnepropetrovsk. But, they come at a fairly high price, if I have no success for the first few days, I just may give them a call. Good luck, and please write a brief trip.

Report when you return.

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Surinder
11-23-15, 08:31
Hi,

I am also visiting there in next 2 days. Can you send some tested no. Or weblink?


Thanks Timmy21.

I have tried your mentioned below links and the first one is in Russian which I don't speak at all, I have been to Dnepropetrovsk twice before, I had some good success but not like Kiev.

I never go to night clubs cafes and shopping malls are the best at day time, massages are the worse in Ukraine as a whole, beautiful girls but cold as the Northern cold.

Once you get the right contact E. G. good agency or good direct contact don't be greedy stay with that and you will have a fantastic time. My best option is travelgirls site, try it you will be suprised.

Your Moski.

Moski
11-24-15, 20:17
Travelgirls dot com need to pay for this site but it can be the job. It worked for me!


Hi,

I am also visiting there in next 2 days. Can you send some tested no. Or weblink?

Pharaon
09-22-16, 15:50
Hello,

I was in Dnipro for a week and I had good experience if any one need help with phone numbers and recommendation message me.

FPerdi
09-30-16, 09:55
Hello,

I was in Dnipro for a week and I had good experience if any one need help with phone numbers and recommendation message me.Hey!

I'm new here. Anyway, I just arrived in Dnipro and have one day.

I would really appreciate some recommendations!

JacobBrasil
02-11-17, 21:56
Hi,

Any hotel in Dnepropetrovsk that I can bring girls in, thanks.

Timmy21
02-16-18, 14:31
The scene here in Dnepro is nothing compared to Kiev, Odessa or even Kharkov, but this city does have several massage salons to choose from. This morning I awoke feeling extremely horny, I called Eiforia massage salon, a pleasant lady told me to come over, this salon is located in the city center on the main drag, going north on the east side, extremely easy to find. A girl met me at the door and she asked if I wanted to look at a menu, I said no, I said I want the VIP, 4 hands for two hours, (as always whenever I visit a massage salon) two girls (in their mid-20's) took me to a room, told me to shower and the fun started. The girls were a lot of fun, very talkative and very friendly. Following the massage we all took a shower together and they took turns scrubbing me down. If you visit this salon, you have to speak Russian, the building is easy to find but the entrance is kind of difficult.

This was maybe the 20th massage salon I visited in Ukraine, the best salon I visited is Moulin Rouge in Kiev, this place is very clean, the girls are very attractive with very good attitudes, the worst was a salon I visited last year in Odessa, can't remember the name, nor do I want to, what a waste of time.

Stevie69
05-30-18, 16:11
I ended up spending 3 nights in Dnipro. I will get to the point: avoid it! I went to meet two non-pros (or rather, long-game pros, seeking marriage), one of whom I had met before in Kiev. I had had a good time with her in Kiev, so I figured, why not. It is time to see something different and the prices are lower; I thought, why not? I was wrong.

Of the two non-pros (or long game pros) I went to meet, one clearly did not work out, and luckily, the other one was working, so she did not interfere with me during the day, and, given that she had to wake up early, did not stay with me overnight. That gave me plenty of time to try the pro scene.

The pro scene is difficult to crack. The biggest problem is that NOBODY speaks English (or French, or Spanish, or Portuguese, or Chinese, or any other language). There are several web sties with seemingly beautiful and reasonably priced girls, but trying to phone any of them is an exercise on frustration. Many do not answer, and the ones that do only speak Ukrainian (or Russian, how do I know? Soon you realize that several of the numbers on different web sites are actually the same. On one case, a girl tried to convince me to go to their place to choose a girl. I have learned form experience not to do that. It is usually a huge waste of time and despite her best efforts, I could not even find the place on google maps.

Same deal with mamba; I did not get any responses. Contrast that to Kiev, where 2 or 3 out of 10 do respond. On Tinder I got a few bites, but oddly and unlike Kiev, they seemed to be non-pros.

Same on Badoo. In most cases, I never got past the online flirtation stage. A few gave me their numbers and tried to talk, but they did not speak English. One of them did, a little, and she took me for a walking tour of the city one morning. She looked great form 20 metres away, better than any 20 year old in North america, but upon close inspection, she was a little "older". Anyway, she gave me a tour and oddly wanted me to buy her stuff. I bought her a couple of soft drinks, but I did not like the fact that she did not even bother to say thank you, so I put a stop to that. By the end, she was getting desperate and just wanted me to buy her anything! She asked for water, and then headache pills. In her mind, it seems, she just had to get something, anything out of me. Her attitude stopped her form having fun, because at times, she was laughing and giggling, truly enjoying herself. I dumped her unceremoniously because "I had a conference call at 14:00 h". I actually did!

The nightlife seemed to be non-existent. Despite having reports online of the usual nightclubs and other venues, I did not find anything suitable for a grown man. I was there Wed, Thu, and Fri night. As the evenings, progressed, the crowds became younger and younger, even on Friday. By midnight, it was nothing more than a bunch of kids (under 25 "men".

A significant proportion of these young men seemed to be Middle Eastern. I assumed and I was told that they were mostly Turkish, but I did not check their passports. It seems that many Turks are escaping the theocracy that Turkey is becoming under Erdoan. I have heard Ukrainian girls avoid Arabs, yet these are the same girls who flock to Club Caribbean to pick them up, and happily display on facebook pictures of themselves in Dubai, trips earned by sucking Arab cock. So, talk is cheap. Money rules.

In any case, if you are a little darker or tan well and do not want to be mistaken for a Turk, just make sure you shave daily. These guys just love their 2-3 day growth look. I do not know how they do it. Maybe they only go out in public every 2 or 3 days. But again it should not matter; maybe you will have to pay a 50 % premium, that is all.

I like to think that I still have some street game, but the day game was also hindered by the fact that NOBODY speaks English (or French, or Spanish, or Portuguese, or Chinese, or any other language). During the day and evening, large numbers of people like to walk along the walkway beside the river. It is Dnipro's answer to Kiev's Kreschatik. Up and down they go. They are not as dressed up as in Kiev, but it is still a nice view.

Anyway, the trip was almost a complete waste of time. I just got lucky. On my first night, I went to McD for a late dinner and I noticed a couple of young bimbos who were a little overdressed in this sea of kids. You know, short skirts, high heels, nails, etc. I looked at them and smiled and they at me, but I did not make a play for them. I know myself, and I definitely cannot fuck for at least 3 hours after a McD meal. Anyway, the next day, while I waited for one of the non-pros near the Riverside area, I noticed them again. Once again they were walking up and down in short little dresses and high heels. I chatted with them for 5-10 minutes, and soon enough, they revealed themselves. We agreed to meet either that night (if I managed to lose the girl I was waiting for in time) or the next day in the early afternoon (when the girl would be at work). NO, of course, I did not tell them about the other girl. I wanted to try out the hotter one first, and then maybe try our both. They wanted 1000 each. I said, yes, but individually, at least one of them first, but they kept insisting on coming together. We eventually settled on 1700 uah. I had them that night, and the hotter one came back for another session the next afternoon. I gave her 1000 for her solo effort.

Prices- In Kiev, foreigners will pay about 1500 to 2500 UAH. In Dnipro, it is about half as much. Even the opening bids are 1000 uah, which is more than they really hope to get. For locals, the prices are probably 200, and 500 for top quality.

In any case, 3 nights, total damage: thrice with a non-pro (or rather, long-term pro, seeking marriage), one hot young pro, and a threesome with her hot friend. So avoid Dnipro at all costs and just go to Odessa, and in the winger, just stay in Kiev. If you did yourself in Dnipro by accident, you might very well find these two girls at the main McD late at night. They are unmistakable, and they like to sit on the booth by the door.

Ecchi
07-14-18, 12:12
Hello,

I was in Dnipro for a week and I had good experience if any one need help with phone numbers and recommendation message me.I may have to head over to Dnipro so I'm doing recon now. Can you give general lay of the land since it's not possible to message you directly.

DudeNextDoor
08-07-18, 21:26
This is my first trip to Dnepropetrovsk, but I been to Ukraine many times.

Where to stay: Most city apartments. High end residence. City view. Location. Price.

Where to happy end: there are 2 saloons, rest is closed down. Good looking variety of girls. 1 relax and massage 500,2 relax and massage 700.

Where to pick escorts: in the lobby. Just hang outside the lobby for a smoke and you will see many hot looking woman come by and leave the building. If they are alone or 2 girls together, then they are working. Just say HI and have fun. 1 hour ranged from 700 to 1000 uah.

Where to sail: Just by the river near the main bridge, pick your departure time and enjoy 1 hour river ride which includes your 1st beer.

Best exchange rate in Ukraine. I did sell dollars for 25.90 in Odessa and 26.45 in Dnepropetrovsk.

floote
08-14-18, 11:50
This is my first trip to Dnepropetrovsk, but I been to Ukraine many times.


Where to happy end: there are 2 saloons, rest is closed down. Good looking variety of girls. 1 relax and massage 500,2 relax and massage 700.

Where to pick escorts: in the lobby. Just hang outside the lobby for a smoke and you will see many hot looking woman come by and leave the building. If they are alone or 2 girls together, then they are working. Just say HI and have fun. 1 hour ranged from 700 to 1000 uah.Interesting.

Can you share the names of the massage saloons and the hotels where escorts hang out in the lobby?

Michi T
09-02-18, 00:01
Where to pick escorts: in the lobby. Just hang outside the lobby for a smoke and you will see many hot looking woman come by and leave the building. If they are alone or 2 girls together, then they are working. Just say HI and have fun. 1 hour ranged from 700 to 1000 uah.
Hey Dude, which hotel are you writing about?

Michi T
09-02-18, 00:07
I...oddly wanted me to buy her stuff. I bought her a couple of soft drinks, but I did not like the fact that she did not even bother to say thank you, so I put a stop to that. By the end, she was getting desperate and just wanted me to buy her anything! She asked for water, and then headache pills. In her mind, it seems, she just had to get something, anything out of me. ...Yes, typical Ukrainian mentality. I hate that!

Michi T
09-09-18, 10:36
...Where to pick escorts: in the lobby. Just hang outside the lobby for a smoke and you will see many hot looking woman come by and leave the building. If they are alone or 2 girls together, then they are working. Just say HI and have fun. 1 hour ranged from 700 to 1000 uah....WHICH Lobby? Name of Hotel?

Michi T
09-11-18, 22:02
Dnipropetrovsk generally a difficult city compared to Kiev. Some girls are less open / interested than others, and some lack the basic understanding of the English language.

Nonetheless, there are some rare perls around. Met today that gorgeous 29 year old girl in McDonalds. Saw her entering (assumingly with a man), then she soon came own on her own (so, obviously that man from before did not belong to her). I just followed her, talked to her, even took a selfy with her and gaver her a kiss. She didn't mind! And the best. BOOONG, there is magic in the air. From noth sides. Will meet her tomorrow again. Let's see if something more will be possible. Otherwise, there is still the 24 year old princess in Kiev waiting for me.

Besides, Dnipro is full of scamers, is my first impression. Arrived last night. Had a valid booking for an apartment via Booking.com. The owner did not answer to my questions on how to get the keys. Booking.com did not help me. Once I arrived at night, I had some local friends who called. The owner did not want to give me the apartment unless I pay more money. Bummmm. I then booked in Aroma Cafe next to train station (free Internet) a Sowjet Hotel for 10 €. Needless to say that quality of hotel was accordingly.

Today, I booked a new apartment via Dobovo.com. Again, owner did not answer. Dobovo finally contacted owner and made meeting point. I had to be there exactly at 12.30, not later. The owner showed up ten minutes late. Same game, apartment not available, but other one possible (this time without extra payment). Well, I agreed, did not want to book again something new. The owner then informed me that she will come and show apartment to potential next guests. I disagreed. She was not intersted and showed up. I rejected to let other people in as long as I rent the flat. She was not happy about it, said it is normal in Ukraine that other people can see apartment. I remained with my position "noone enters during my rental period". Also here, let's see how the situation develops.

Michi T
09-13-18, 21:00
So, things changed dramatically within a very short time.

Dated that 29 yo lawyer girl from yesterday around 1 AM. Had a drink, went to my place. After she went to office. Is now out of country until Wednesday. Instead of going home, I will come back to Dnipro next week and we will live together. To try if there can be something more between us.

Then, on the way home tonight I crossed a street on red light. That one woman (around 35 yo) at the other side of the x crossing looked at me from top to bottom. I did the same. Then I whispered in her ears "you are attractive and sexy lady". She smiles, I took her hand and kissed her. She did not do anyting against. Amazing. Like in a movie.

In the afternoon was some date with a girl from Mamba. We went for walk, coffee (SHE paid), thenafter on the walk I took her hand. She did not take it back but looked at me. I said, "do you not like it? She replied "oh, umm, yes, I liked it". Then I kissed her and we continued our walk to her bus station. Actually, I needed some courage but it paid off. She wants to go BBQ with me next week in Dnipro.

Michi T
09-23-18, 16:53
So, the most impressive things happen when one does not expect them. Yesterday, when my current UA GF went for manicure / pedicure, I was alone in town.

First I was in a clothes store (similar to Tijuana Maxx / TK Maxx). There was that gorgeous blonde girl. I approached her, we then continued shopping together, she adviced me about clothes (I tried about a douzen of shirts), like we were a couple. Then for a walk, in a coffee, seating on park bank. I took her hand, at the end I also kissed her. She is a medicine doctor student. I asked her about what she thinks that I simply take her hands and kiss her. She said, strange situation, but she feels like we know each other for a while. Will see her tomorrow again.

Second, on the way back home, went to supermarket. Talked to that other girl. Bought her some small candy, she was really happy. Helped me take my shoppings to my apartment, entered, like we were friends for long time, not shy at all. I cooked coffee, after some talking she asked if she can hug me. Needless to say that I did not mind Met her today again. She came to my apartment, then told me that she is a student, turning 19 this year. And, the more crazy thing I experienced for years, that girl is completely inexperienced but so horny. She said she never had a boy friend before, and also no sex. Bingo!

OMG, this Ukraine is more crazy than I could ever imagine.

IndusMint
09-23-18, 17:22
I fully agree with your comments, once you know how to get the attention of ukrainian or Belarus girls you get it all very easily.

Power550
01-22-19, 01:32
I was looking for a good agency and found devushkione. I forget where I saw but some people said they are a scam. Has anyone used them?

PhotoSlider
01-22-19, 21:07
So, the most impressive things happen when one does not expect them. Yesterday, when my current UA GF went for manicure / pedicure, I was alone in town.

First I was in a clothes store (similar to Tijuana Maxx / TK Maxx). There was that gorgeous blonde girl. I approached her, we then continued shopping together, she adviced me about clothes (I tried about a douzen of shirts), like we were a couple. Then for a walk, in a coffee, seating on park bank. I took her hand, at the end I also kissed her. She is a medicine doctor student. I asked her about what she thinks that I simply take her hands and kiss her. She said, strange situation, but she feels like we know each other for a while. Will see her tomorrow again.

Second, on the way back home, went to supermarket. Talked to that other girl. Bought her some small candy, she was really happy. Helped me take my shoppings to my apartment, entered, like we were friends for long time, not shy at all. I cooked coffee, after some talking she asked if she can hug me. Needless to say that I did not mind Met her today again..Love it! This is precisely why I go to Ukraine again and again and again).

Timmy21
01-23-19, 13:36
I was looking for a good agency and found devushkione. I forget where I saw but some people said they are a scam. Has anyone used them?This agency most certainly appears to be a scam agency, but I've never used them, only a little email correspondence. Whenever I am in Dhipro I use two different agencies. They both advert on the Minuet site, the best one of the two provides escorts for 1,500 and the other a little less expensive at 1,200. Not sure if the photos are real or not because the faces are covered, but the girls for the most part are attractive. The agency that provides girls for 1,500 is better, and they can give you a good rate for an all night. There is a slight problem as they are open only on Fri, Sat and Sun, or maybe Thu, Fri and Sat can't remember, but their girls provide good service.

Michi T
02-24-19, 23:23
Love it! This is precisely why I go to Ukraine again and again and again).Oh, I love to remember all my great experiences from last summer and autumn! Now I have a new job, I am back in the hamster wheel and no chance to visit Ukrainja. But that last weekend, I was in Berlin with that 19 year old girl from Dnipro, which I made last autum over there, she now studies in Poland, and came over. Har har har

Michi T
07-14-19, 22:42
My first weekend in Dnipropetrovsk after some months.

1st day (Friday).

First night in the Dnipropetrovsk Hotel at the river promenade. It was perfect choice. Met that big titted teenager girl NATALI in the afternoon of day or arrival. I was walking with suitcase to the hotel from the bus station. Talked to the tiger with some silly excuse. Exchanged the number, met in the evening, went for walk at the promenade, bought some botthe of wine (for 50 UAH) in the supermarket, drank at the promenade, could do some kissing, touching and sucking)).

2nd day (Saturday).

Changed to the Bartolomeo River Resort. Took the marshrutka to safe money. Driver did not understand any word of English. I cought the attention of young girl in the bus, she helped me with the correct bus stop. And she was during the whole journey starring at me and giggeling. Loool. At the resort, hotel guests get free entrance to the disco. It is a high end club where the rich and beautiful come at night. There were long queues at the entrance and face controls. Was alone there, kind of boring, all others were in groups. First, talked to two teenager girls. Pretendet to only see the one with the big tits (becasue I did not want to buy a drink for both). Exchanged number and met the day after with that girl SONOA Becasue it was so boring alone, I inspected a black dude and a Turkish man who tried to talk to girls but no success whatsoever. I tried also and got good interaction but she had a boyfriend, so that was ok with me. The black dude realized and approached me. We became kind of friends. Next girl, etc. We had lots of fun. Finally, the five cm taller NATALI was attracted to me, so I took her to my room (which was only a few meters from the disco).

3rd day (Sunday).

I changed from Bartolomeo River Resort to an apartment in the very center of the city. LIUDMIYLA (22) who I was in contact since last visit in Dnipro (she was back then with an Arab "boy friend" She was kind enough to help me with apartment check-in (language needed because owner no English). But in general, she was by far not as attractive as I had in mind and also, she was not interested in me as a man (she said she would not get married to me because I am too old for her). Instead she wants to be "good friends" etc. Well, on drama,. I met with SONOA (the girl from last night in disco), for a walk, holding hand, kissing but nothing more. I went then to ATB in the afternoon and booooooong. There were two teenager girls. One was holding a huge melon in her arms. And boooong, she had herself a nice set of tits. Aaaand - no bra and her nipples were visible! She was then on phone with her boyfriend. Her friend gave me her number, the name is LIA. In the evening, KATYA (27) from Mamba came over to me. We were in (dirty and naughty) Viber contact for a few weeks already. She was not shy and agreed to come to my apartment. After cooking together you dudes can imagine what happened. She is back home now, asked me if it was a one off or a potential relationship. Of course I answered the latter. Loool. She will come back on Tuesday. Then, I contacted LIA from the supermarket. She ignored my messages in Telegram and even blocked me. I then contacted in Viber and offered some shopping tomorrow together. Unbelievable, but she agreed.

Sooo. Thatt was my first weekend in a nutshell.

Michi T
07-16-19, 22:31
4th day (Monday).

Met around noon the supermarket melon teen girl LIA. We went for short shopping (sond naughty underwear) and after to my apartment to "have a drink". Loool. Yes, she got indeed a "drink"))) Interesting to see how money can change loaylity to a girl's boy friend. That teenag girl was so hot and hornyy that she made my day.

In the late afternoon I was walking on the Dmytra Yavornnytskho Avenue. Saw on the other side of the street that blond biiiiig boobed 32 yo MILF LISA. Was waiting for her, talked to her and walked then together. Took her for a cheap coffee. Went then to the park for a walk, already holding her hand, looool!

In late evening met some dude from CouchSurfing and went to the cheapest pizza restaurant in twon, only one € per pizza!

Michi T
07-16-19, 22:43
5th day (Tuesday).

Things are getting crazy. I can no longer handle all the Tinder, Badoo and Mamba (only accessible via a non Russian VPN) and give up on many opportunities.

Took a three course business lunch in a nice restaurant directly ath the river for only 99 UAH (less than 4 €). I then received at my apartment the 29 yo MILF girl TANYA, which I got in touch with in Tinder. She was a "sex for money" girl. Her rate was only 1'300 UAH for two hours. I negociated down to 1'000. She then thought that I am a German guy because they are well known to be greedy and miserly! We had an amazing sex, cock sucking and massage session!

Met half an hour later the 36 yo MILF NATA from Tinder. She made a very serious impression on Viber chat "no sex, no ONS. " but in reality she was a cold and rather arrogant woman. We did not get warm with each other. Very good that I "only" had to pay two coffees.

After that meeting, half an hour later, the next girl arrived. It was big boobed MILF girl LISA from last day. We went for Sushi (I did some research in afternoon, found cheap offer in Mafia, 2 Set of Sushi à 8 pieces plus one pizza including three beer cost me in total around eight €). We thenafter bought some beer in ATB and went down to the river. We had some walk, some kissing and some tits grabing.

At 22.00 I finally met KATYA, the medicine doctor that I know from some online dating platform. We met already on Sunday (see previous text. She iwas staying over night at my apartment. She is now calling me to come to bed).

Michi T
07-18-19, 15:32
6th day (Wednesday).

Uff, again a day with four dates. Sleeping again until almost noon. Too lazy to write now a new report. Had my last date from 0. 15-02.00 AM with that hot single mom MILF. Baby was sleeping in the other room, lool.

For me, Dinpropetrovsk is the best place in Ukraine, it works so easy. Even got a new contact mext moring shortly after 6 AM when I took the tram to the train station. The girl already sent me some naked photo. Loool. And again, all but two girls where civilians! Young teenagers, no money involved! On the other hand, I met some Italian and German dudes from CouchSurfing, they hated Dnipro and had zero success. Hence, each his own!

TinyHippo
08-03-19, 22:10
6th day (Wednesday).

Uff, again a day with four dates. Sleeping again until almost noon. Too lazy to write now a new report. Had my last date from 0. 15-02.00 AM with that hot single mom MILF. Baby was sleeping in the other room, lool.

For me, Dinpropetrovsk is the best place in Ukraine, it works so easy. Even got a new contact mext moring shortly after 6 AM when I took the tram to the train station. The girl already sent me some naked photo. Loool. And again, all but two girls where civilians! Young teenagers, no money involved! On the other hand, I met some Italian and German dudes from CouchSurfing, they hated Dnipro and had zero success. Hence, each his own!Do you speak Russian at all? I have not been to Dnipro, but have had some luck with a couple English speaking girls from there in Berlin. Unfortunately not at the same time.

Michi T
08-06-19, 01:59
Do you speak Russian at all? I have not been to Dnipro, but have had some luck with a couple English speaking girls from there in Berlin. Unfortunately not at the same time.I do not speak any Russian nor do I speak some Ukrainian.

Sparta873
10-21-19, 15:05
http://www.lucifer6.com is this a legit agency or scam? Seems to be based out of Dnipro. Please advise.

TinyHippo
11-01-19, 20:24
http://www.lucifer6.com is this a legit agency or scam? Seems to be based out of Dnipro. Please advise.Scam of course. No Kyiv agency is going to have websites in Macedonia and Moldova.

Hestendk
05-08-20, 21:11
Will be in Dnipro only one day next week and only in the day, but have apartment.

Anyone have any good tips to find a girl, either Pro or Semi pro.

IndusMint
05-09-20, 13:14
Will be in Dnipro only one day next week and only in the day, but have apartment.

Anyone have any good tips to find a girl, either Pro or Semi pro.Pm me for info.

Incrociatore
09-03-20, 01:31
I want to add my contribute about Dnipro, Ukraine in general.

I have been in Dnipro multiple times, I spent overall 50 days there in one year and half. I do not speak Russian, I can understand just a dozen of words.

I used Tinder a lot and I had a lot of contacts and dates. I mean, a lot, like I have been out with over 20 different girls. You have to consider that I work when I'm there, so I don't have too much time. I could have slept with one girl who wanted to move in UK and was searching for a provider. She was already imagining herself in London with me. I didn't because she was looking like my ex in person. I had a weird feeling and I told her I wasn't interested.

I manage to kiss another one a few times, since we had two or three dates, but I wasn't able to fuck her. She was really tall, like 1. 80 or even more, and she was slim, nice face. She had a boyfriend living abroad, and she though I wanted just to fuck her, so probably she wanted some money, which I never offered.

I wasn't able to do anything else with any other girl. Some were not attractive, different from the pictures, a few ghosted me after the first appointment. One beautiful girl from Morocco accepted my invite for dinner. We are still in contact, but I wasn't able to sleep with her. I made it clear I could have been generous, but she wasn't interested. I can tell you that I had a lot of dates in Dnipro, but I get more results in London, where I live, even with less matches. Here I can fuck for free, once in a while, there I can't. If I go out with a girl in London, most likely at least I kiss her, or I bang her after a few dates. Ukrainian girls are really interested in the way you look. It's not true that they look after your money, they just want someone handsome. I'm in my 40, and even if I look in my 30 I'm not particularly attractive. I'm average, I would say. But I had a lot of girls, some beautiful, I have been for 3 years in a relationship with a really attractive 20 years old European girl, half of my age, so I'm not so bad as well. I'm telling you this so you can have an idea. I'm not the guy who pick up in a disco, but I'm not a desperate either. Ukraine is the country where I have been less successful overall.

I fucked a few prostitutes as well. 3 of them in total. Most work for agencies. Pictures are often fake. They are ugly on average. They come in group of 3 or 4, you choose one. The price is about 30 per hour, I can't recall exactly. They do not kiss, it doesn't matter if you offer a tip, they don't do it. Sex is protected and boring. I manage to fuck two girls, one wasn't a good fuck at all, she was full of tattoos, not a typical Russian beauty, slim and with a strange face, but I found her somehow attractive. No kisses, sex wasn't great.

I have been more lucky the second time, just because when I sent the messages in English to a number I found on a website, they told me the girl would have kissed me. Which is not true, they do not. In fact she told me no kisses. I had to complain and show her the messages. Only after she agreed. I had an amazing sex. She was in her early 20 with a tattoo "Yes, Daddy!" and we had a lot of fun. I was fuckin her and she was saying: yes daddy. Amazing. But I have been lucky.

The last prostitute I had was about 35, met her on Tinder. A semi pro. I fucked her 4 times, not particularly attractive but the sex was good and she agreed to do bareback the second time we met. She liked me a lot, she always wanted to stay more and fuck a second time. I was paying her 40 dollars. I was calling her when I didn't have any other options.

You can find the most attractive girls at Bartolomeu. Friday is the best day, but Saturday is good as well. Some pro, semi pro and normal girls there. I have been there twice. The first time I left after 20 minutes because I had the impression they were all escorts. I went after months a second time, and I realized they are not all escorts, most of them are, but not all. So you can end up to hook up with someone if you are really lucky. Some girls are stunning, I remember one was truly something special. This girl I fucked a few times told me they ask 200 and 100 in another club I have been. I don't recall the name, is on the bank.

I mean, I was hoping to fuck like a rabbit, then I found I better stay in London, because I'm more successful here. Don't waste your time in Dnipro. Most of the girls don't speak English at all.

Just to compare, I have been in Belarus for a couple of days, on a trip work, and I have got a lot of matches on Tinder. Girls were more engaged to talk with me in Minsk that they are in Dnipro. I might be back in Dnipro after this Coronavirus ends, and if I do I will just go Bartolomeo or I will stop girls on the street.

If you go, do not pay for dinner. Go out for a drink, it's much better. It's not only cheaper, but you can test the girl, and maybe you can choose a place where you can sit close to her. Dinners are bad, they will be focused on the food. It's OK for a second date, if something happens on the first one. Otherwise it's just a waste of money and time.

Russian helps a lot. If you speak Russian it's much easier to pick up, if you don't it's really hard. One thing I noticed is that girls aren't interested anymore in Europeans because they don't need a Visa to travel. And most of them make enough money to afford a trip. Belarus girls need a Visa instead. And when they need a Visa or an invite is much better, because you are an opportunity for them to travel. So, Ukraine is not a good spot for me.

TinyHippo
06-08-21, 05:58
Just wanted to report that I had no luck finding semi-pros in Dnipro on Mamba / Tinder. I did meet with two really beautiful girls on Tinder, but no dice. They wanted to meet on the weekend after a cafe meeting, but I was already planning on leaving. So, I wrote them a last minute hail mary text to come to my hotel (without money offer) the next night and they declined. Both girls were 27-29 yo and I just have my rule of not paying for sex for anyone over 24.

Timmy21
10-28-21, 13:01
With no less than 10 erotic massage salons, I would say that per capita, Dnipro has more salons than any other city in Ukraine. I've visited three the past six days, the first Egoist, the premier salon in the city, the most expensive with the youngest and most attractive girls, I chose a short (160 cm) girl with long black hair, deep blue eyes, bad choice, I paid for the VIP for 2 hours, after 90 minutes she said that's all and requested that I shower, I wasn't going to argue, so I dressed and as I was leaving the salon, the manager asked me why I am leaving with 25 minutes left, I told her and she looked at the girl in a very pissed off look, the girl said nothing and looked at the floor, I said next time just get me 20 additional minutes, she took out 550 gr. Slammed it on the counter, I took it and left. I was simply amazed because usually managers will always side with the girl.

Escort agencies are no problem to find, I called one and asked about a girl for four hours, the operated asked that I send a text, via Viber, with my address and how long I want a girl for, the operator then sent me pics of the girls available with the cost, I picked a 19 year old, 2000 gr plus 200 for taxi. At my age it was an absolute thrill to bang this 19 year old like a fricken gladiator for 4 hours. Her smell lingered in my flat long after she left, I haven't called her back yet, but I will. This I my sixed visit to Dnipro, and not much has changed from my first visit, no one and I mean no one speaks English, so if you visit you have to speak at least conversational Russian.