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TheCatsMeow88
01-01-07, 01:00
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TheCatsMeow88
01-09-07, 23:20
An example of Peruvian beauty. A couple of normal girls.

Fellow Lima Mongers,

I believe that KM2 is Miss Caterina from my post dated October 30 on this thread. When I met her, Caterina told me that she was a 23yo receptionist. In order to protect her identity I covered her eyes in the pictures I posted.

Imagine my surprise, then, when I saw her surface on this board a second time. Surprise turned to bewilderment when I visited Lima for a few days and met LimaBusy, who pointed me to a nude calendar which spotlighted not one, but two, of my Lima conquests. Caterina is Miss December in the calendar, I believe. The other girl (Who appears on the front, back and center pages) is none other than Sandra, the hapless but beautiful masseur who I have written about on this site on a number of occasions.

Therefore without further ado, and working under the assumption that any chica who is prepared to appear naked in a calendar can have no qualms about appearing mostly dressed on this board, please find attached some additional photos of Miss Caterina for your viewing pleasure.

The Cat

PS I will submit a second post covering some of my other Lima adventures from this past trip.

PPS - Spaniard21 - If you are interested, PM me and I will forward you Caterina's contact details.

TheCatsMeow88
01-10-07, 01:13
38: Baring her breasts.
39, 41, 42, 44, 45, 46: The money shot, or in this case shots.
47, 48, 49: Preparing herself to ingest cat meat and cat juice.

TheCatsMeow88
01-10-07, 01:16
I just returned from three wonderful mongering-laden days in Lima.

So many firsts for me on this trip. After half-a-dozen or so trips to Lima, I finally met LimaBusy (A great guy), visited Calle Pizza (A target-rich environment in the evenings), visited Tequila Rocks (Last resort but a sure thing), visited the Bierhaus in Barranco (Full of non-pros but not the best destination for someone in their forties like myself. If you are in your twenties you are just about guaranteed to score in my opinion), visited the Flying Dog/Tacos Bar (Like the proverbial Forrest Gump box of chocolates, you never never know what you are going to get), dined at the Rosa Nautica (Inexpensive by US standards but unaffordable for most Peruvians and absolutely the best place to go if you really want to impress a chica. Wait for a terrazza table for maximum effect; it is worth it) and hung out at Cafe Zeta (High percentage of gringos). I also picked up a waitress from Calle Pizza; a specific objective that I had set myself prior to traveling down there. And then there was the gambling. I visited the Marriott Casino on three separate occasions and the blackjack/roulette gods were really smiling; I walked out with winnings each time! A 3-visit winning streak has never happened to me before. To say that the trip paid for itself would be an exaggeration. To say that one or two chica dates effectively cost me nothing would be more than accurate.

To World Travel 69: Please add the Huaringa Bar, located on Plaza Bolognesi, to the list of non-pro pick-up places in Miraflores. Huaringa attracts a higher class crowd than places like the Bierhaus and Flying Dog. It is closer to a Larco Mar crowd, I would say. I have it on very good authority- someone who knows Lima far better than I ever will- that a visit to the Huaringa bar can reap dividends. I visited the place briefly on my first night and there were many people there but I did not stay around long enough to score.

There were a couple of disappointments and near misses on the way but, overall, the trip was well worth the investment in time, money and effort. The disappointments were, invariably, related to chicas with whom I spent considerable time online and who then failed to show at the allotted time or even answer their telephone. I have learnt from previous experiences that when meeting chicas online, the airline approach works best: take bookings for 130% of capacity on the assumption that at least 30% will not show up. This works well. However, given the ridiculous ease of connecting with chicas in Lima, I am considering abandoning the online approach altogether. It represents too much time and effort expended on something that is easily accessible in-country. I also draw your attention to a message titled "Cybercupido", posted earlier today by Tiny12 in the "General Info" thread of the Peru section of this board regarding one of the pitfalls of online dating. I manage to avoid the particular problem he describes by being up-front regarding my intentions but my success rate suffers dramatically as a result. I used to like Cybercupido but now agree with Tiny12 who describes it as a "monumental waste of time". My membership expires in less than a month and I will not be renewing. It all boils down to this issue: Are you comfortable travelling down there without having anything lined up ahead of time? For me, the answer thus far has been "No" but I am getting more comfortable with the idea with every trip.

Speaking of online connections, Sadith and I met on an online site and have been chatting, on and off, for a couple of weeks. I decided to call her on the spur-of-the-moment when I arrived in Lima and spent the better part of a day with her. Sadith is 20 years old, lives at home and is a real sweetheart. She works and studies. She requested that I NOT share contact details so please no requests for information as they will be ignored.

I will not provide specific details regarding our time together other than stating that Sadith is a very accommodating girl; the Spanish word "complaciente" comes to mind and is, in fact, a perfect description. Enjoy the photos from our time together. Her face has been masked to protect the innocent.

4, 6, 10: Street clothes.
21, 26, 28, 30, 32, 33: Showing off her legs which are by far her greatest asset and the reason she made it into my bedroom. I am a "no apologies" legs and stockings man!
35: Getting ready to bear her breasts, admittedly not her best feature (Though they are "fantastic" according to Crypton).

TheCatsMeow88
01-10-07, 02:59
Crypton,

You make the very valid point that not everyone adheres to the motto "the bigger the better". In the US, we are fed so many images of Pamela Anderson types that we become conditioned to believe that bigger is better. You caused me to pause and realize that beauty is in the eye of the beholder or, put another way, breasts do not have to be big to be beautiful.

The Cat



What do you mean her breasts are not her best feature? They are fantastic. And on top, her pussy is one of the cutest I have seen in a loong time. Beautiful girl.. you lucky SOB. Thanks for pics.

Cheers.

TheCatsMeow88
01-10-07, 14:51
All,

For those of you interested in knowing how the words "super model" translate into Spanish, check out these publicity photos of Claudia Portocarrero. Claudia happens to be the hottest thing in the Peruvian modeling scene at the moment. She is 21yo, 1.75m (5'8") tall and was born somewhere in the Selva (Iquitos, if I am not mistaken). She started off as a dancer but made the crossover into modelling 2-3 years ago.

Well, if nothing else, it sets the standard and gives us something to shoot for in the New Year.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
01-10-07, 15:19
all,

sandra has expanded her horizons and is now also a published model. she appears on the cover, back, and centerfold spread (and i do mean spread) of a recently published nude calendar.

if you are looking for a great massage experience with a very attractive and highly trained physiotherapist, pm me for contact information.

the cat




all,

i have been chatting online for about a week with a young lady in lima. it turns out that earlier today she was attacked by four men while leaving the bank. they hit her, took her $200 cash and forced her to withdraw another $2,500 from her account, wiping out her savings. she tells me that, unlike the usa, there is no daily limit on withdrawals (can someone who is local please verify this?). this could be a scam but i do not think so as she has not asked me for money.

she is a professional physiotherapist (legitimate, not a hooker masquerading as a masseur) and stands to lose her equipment if she does not make a payment on friday. therefore, out of desperation, she is ready to join the world's oldest profession, even if only for a short time.

now for the good news. i was planning to keep her for myself until after my visit next week but i am now prepared to share her given her circumstances. she is 20 years old, 1.64 (5'4" in height), an ex-model and has the face of an angel.

serious mongers who are in town can pm me for details.

there is nothing in this for me. i am doing this as a favour to help her out.

the cat

TheCatsMeow88
01-11-07, 04:23
It sounds like a good approach and if it gets results then it is, by definition, a good approach. However, if you are getting 60 responses at a time, that represents alot of weeding out and alot of Starbucks coffee. Let me know one week before you place the ad so that I can invest in Starbucks stock. Seriously though, it looks like you have to put the time in one way or another.

I am curious as to what you actually advertise for: Cleaners, secretaries, personal assistants, lingerie models, putas, other?

The "ad" approach has been discussed before on this site but I am too lazy to track down the relevant postings.

The Cat


Whats up guys or should I say "Saludos a todo:

I have been a lurker for a while amd world traveler turned me on to this site, and I must say that there is plenty of knowlge here. So much so that I have compiled a 110 page guide of Lima complete with maps to all the places I want to go. Thanks comrades!

I have also thought about the online dating thing you guys have been talking about (catsmeaow) and I beleive Im going to stay wih my tried and truue approach. Through the years with the latin american population of my state steadily increasing, I decided to enroll in several spanish courses and then place personal ads in spanish papers here. The response is enormous, over 60 plus responses everytime I do it , what I do is interview the respondents at Starbucks and weed out the good ones. So I figure Ill do the same there in lima, I beleive its a far beter strategy than online ads, mainly its because online ads are too easily accessible, any foolita at a cybercafe respondes and giggles afterwards and the very nature of them is annonimity which I believe is why some of you guys were getting alt of "no shows" when you arrived in Lima. Belive me I know nothing is fool proof but with an ad or "aviso" Ive gotten far better results. That brings me to my problemo, I have nobody that can place the "personal ad for me".

If by chance David_33 or LIma_Busy can place an ad for me in El Commercio I would appreciate it. of course Ill Pay for it. Do they have a special section for this in el Commercio? I plan to be in Lima for 6 months or more and Im not leaving pussy prison till June or July, Im just trying to plan ahead and have all of my ducks in a row.
Let me know if Ive got anytakers who are already in Lima and Senior posters to this board.

Keep up the mongering and all the best.

Ten cuidadi Amigos

TheCatsMeow88
01-12-07, 05:13
Vaughn,

Thanks for the response but please clarify one additional thing for me. Do you post an ad that offers some sort of "English tuition service"/"Cultural exchange service" or do you post a job opening, for example for a "Personal Assistant". Just curious as I doubt that I will use this approach myself.

And I'll hold off on purchasing that Starbucks stock for now!

The Cat



Well, Cat I dont see all 60 plus women so you might not be on the Bill Gates, rich mans track just yet in terms of buying stock. jeje But I have a process much like any other job process, where I return phone calls, take notes and find out which country their from, age, easy to talk to, how many kids, if their space cadets and so forth. Its kinda fun because you run into all kinds, but you can filter them out then I meet them and filter again. Once you get into a Rhythm your never without at least 5 girls. I also keep records on how fast I get them to do "the horizontal mambo with me" and the winner is this girl from Argentina, 20 min. flat unbelievable. But there are some nice one too, who are just sweet girls.

I agree with you that it is a time intensive process, but thats the one place where I am rich, in time. Ill be ther for 6 months or more teaching ingles.

About hi5 website, Im a member and its a "quiet as its kept secreto" Im glad its discussed here!

Cheerios Comrades

TheCatsMeow88
02-04-07, 22:53
All,

What is there to say about Relax y Vida that has not already been said? My last visit (which was also my first) was somewhat of a disappointment as they assigned me a new girl who did not deliver the kind of service I had come to expect based on the reports posted on this site.

However, the consistently glowing reports convinced me to try it again and this time around the results were far more satisfactory. When I called to make the reservation earlier today, I made a point of telling the Mamasan (Her name is Sra. Miluska for those of you who keep track of such things) that my last visit was dud. This ploy had the expected effect; she assigned me a top drawer performer in order to make up for previous deficiencies. Her name is Caterina and she is a 24 year old medical or nursing student. I would rate her a 6-7 in looks and though she does not have a super model body, like some of the other girls at RyV, she is sexy enough. The mini falda and puta heels that all the RyV girls wear help in this regard.

Caterina told me she plans to quit in a few months, once she graduates, in order to pursue her real career. I will not provide all of the sordid details as the RyV routine has been described often enough. Suffice to say that she really knows what she is doing and that I left the place spent but fully satisfied. I have read somewhere on this site that Camila is the "best of the best" at RyV. I asked for her but she was not on duty today. However, Catherina must be pretty close to the top of the totem pole if my experience is representative of normal service.

If it has not already be reported, I should mention that the entrance fee at RyV has increased from 70 soles to 80 soles. Combined with the strengthening value of the Nuevo Sol, this equates to about USD 26 (I paid closer to USD 21 on my last visit). The propina for the girl remains discretionary although I have seen 50 soles regularly mentioned. Catherina provided wonderful service and, accordingly, earned a generous tip.

The Cat

VoodooMan
02-07-07, 14:37
All,

What is there to say about Relax y Vida that has not already been said? My last visit (which was also my first) was somewhat of a disappointment as they assigned me a new girl who did not deliver the kind of service I had come to expect based on the reports posted on this site.

However, the consistently glowing reports convinced me to try it again and this time around the results were far more satisfactory. When I called to make the reservation earlier today, I made a point of telling the Mamasan (Her name is Sra. Miluska for those of you who keep track of such things) that my last visit was dud. This ploy had the expected effect; she assigned me a top drawer performer in order to make up for previous deficiencies. Her name is Caterina and she is a 24 year old medical or nursing student. I would rate her a 6-7 in looks and though she does not have a super model body, like some of the other girls at RyV, she is sexy enough. The mini falda and puta heels that all the RyV girls wear help in this regard.

Caterina told me she plans to quit in a few months, once she graduates, in order to pursue her real career. I will not provide all of the sordid details as the RyV routine has been described often enough. Suffice to say that she really knows what she is doing and that I left the place spent but fully satisfied. I have read somewhere on this site that Camila is the "best of the best" at RyV. I asked for her but she was not on duty today. However, Catherina must be pretty close to the top of the totem pole if my experience is representative of normal service.

If it has not already be reported, I should mention that the entrance fee at RyV has increased from 70 soles to 80 soles. Combined with the strengthening value of the Nuevo Sol, this equates to about USD 26 (I paid closer to USD 21 on my last visit). The propina for the girl remains discretionary although I have seen 50 soles regularly mentioned. Catherina provided wonderful service and, accordingly, earned a generous tip.

The Cat

Is RyV in a relatively safe area being in La Victoria, i haven't ventured much out of the usual "safe areas" (Miraflores, San Isidro, Barranco, ect.)??

Thanks!

TheCatsMeow88
02-11-07, 16:00
after a lifetime of learning how to finesse midwestern american chicks and play the games they play i need to recalibrate my game for latin america. i have had two situations in the last 3 weeks where things fell apart without warning and i think it was because i didn't pull the trigger fast enough. i will try to move at rocket speed from now on and see how things work out.

elberto,

you are on the right track. it is my experience that you can be very direct with girls in lima. they know what is expected of them and are used to demanding men. taking too long to get to the point may actually be interpreted as a sign of weakness on your part.

the cat

TheCatsMeow88
02-18-07, 05:28
All,

For mongers partial to young latinas, Lima is truly the gift that keeps on giving. I was in Lima last week and the week before. You just know that one way or another you will not sleep alone at night unless it is by choice. You also know that caliber of girls that will share your bed can only be dreamt about in Sex Prison, USA.

These past two weeks I have had the following encounters:

1) A trip to RyV yielded an excellent experience with Caterina, as reported in my posting dated Feb 4, 2007 on this thread.

4) I ran into Elena in Parque Kennedy on my first night in Lima. She is not up to my usual standard but I got in late, had nothing else lined up and so she had to do in a pinch. Elena is a 25yo nursing student who provided excellent service.

3) Zobeyda is a young lady that I have been conversing with online. She is an 18 year old student with a beautiful face and wonderfully slim body. She is taller than average for a Peruvian and, most importantly for me as I am leg man, she has wonderfully long and lithe legs. I took her to dinner and spent 2-3 hours with her one evening.

4) Maria- get this- I ran into in an elevator at the Marriott. She never made it to the lobby. It turns out that she was on her way out after a gig. Maria is an 18 year old student at one of the local universities and does this kind of thing to pay the bills and improve her overall lifestyle. The best way to describe her is as a little minx.

5) Jennifer was another online girl (no photo of this one, sorry). Another student, 21 years old. Once again, a wonderful body and face. I kept her for 2 nights and she slept with me at the Marriott.

I am not willing to share contact information for Zobeyda or Jennifer but if anyone is interested in Elena or Maria, you can PM me. I will only respond to senior members who I know and trust.

It is my intention to take out a big-breasted babe from Tequila's one of these nights but I can never seem to actually get there. Too many distractions. I visited one night in the last two weeks and ran into a blonde bombshell by the name of Lucero. She could not leave with me that same night as she was with friends. She gave me her number but I never got around to calling her. Too many distractions, as I said.

St. Valentines day was pretty crazy. Traffic was really congested and Larco Mar was packed. They had security guards at the top of the stairs preventing people from walking in. I assume they were concerned about capacity limitations and security. There were chicas as far as the eye could see.

I just thank my lucky stars that at my age (Mid-forties) I am still sleeping with 18-22 year old babes on a regular basis (at least when I visit Lima). God is, indeed, good all the time.

The Cat

Jesi James
02-19-07, 14:24
i just thank my lucky stars that at my age (mid-forties) i am still sleeping with 18-22 year old babes on a regular basis (at least when i visit lima). god is, indeed, good all the time.

the cati completely agree cat. i will be in lima soon. i don't even look in gringaland. i saw a quote on a site the other day and it said, 'men are like grapes, just keep stomping on them until they are good for taking to dinner'. i am sure her husband is happy.

jes

TheCatsMeow88
02-19-07, 19:01
'Bare,

It sounds like it was a little more systematic in Hong Kong than it is in Lima. As you know, security will not allow girls to loiter in the Marriott so you are not going to pick up girls in or around the elevators on a consistent basis. I just happened to walk into an elevator and this beautiful 18 year old blonde was standing there. What was I supposed to do? This is Lima for God's Sake!

It does, however, make me wonder what happens to the chicas who I do not escort down to the lobby after I am done with them!

Regarding the two beauties you ran into in October, you should have asked for their numbers!


Lima Busy,

I am glad you had the opportunity to visit Huaringas and that you enjoyed the experience. I will have to start taking my own advice as I did not visit the place on this recent trip! Maybe we can go together on my next visit. I like the ambience and feel that it is frequented by a higher quality chica. Do you share my assessment?

The Cat


Cat:
I have been a big fan of "elevator shopping" ever since I scored consostantly well in Hong Kong. I stayed at Holiday Inn, Golden Mile. Anytime after 8:00AM, you could always make a good selection by standing near the ground floor elevators.

There was a nice price advantage because the girls would give you a nice ST and the money was all theirs to keep because mamasan thought they were still on their LT form the night before.

When I was in Lime in October, I saw 2 beauties in the Marriott elevators but I had business partners waiting for me in the lobby. Business always screws up the good screwing opportunities.
'bare

Lima Busy
02-19-07, 19:44
Lima Busy,

I am glad you had the opportunity to visit Huaringas and that you enjoyed the experience. I will have to start taking my own advice as I did not visit the place on this recent trip! Maybe we can go together on my next visit. I like the ambience and feel that it is frequented by a higher quality chica. Do you share my assessment?

The CatDefinetly share your view. Most guy's do not frequent the more cosmopolitan type bar's (exception being Polvo, who lives in them), Unless you are from a major city in the US or Europe. If you have the clothes & attitude (you looked very sharp the other day,btw)the level of girls you will meet there are far and away hotter than what you will find in the lowbrow places. Not being elitist as some of my best friends are regulars at "flying dog" and Cafe Z is pretty low brow also. In my college day's I did the whole "Mochilero" thing and it does not work for me anymore.

LB

It all comes down to the type of enviorment you feel most comfortable in which is a personal choice for all of us.

TheCatsMeow88
02-20-07, 14:04
Polvo,

Hilarious. It sounds like you really missed Lima. I can fully empathize with that first night "I am finally here and I cannot waste a minute getting laid" feeling. We all end up making bad choices as a result of it (See Elena a few posts back).

There is a blonde bombshell type named Lucero who works Tequila. I have no idea if that is your type but she looked to be worth a try. Let me know if you are interested.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
02-23-07, 03:10
Gentlmen,

Not to take us too much off subject but I have travelled to Mexico City on business a couple of times in the past twelve months. I have written about my experiences in the Mexico thread and support Polvo's assertion regarding pricing. Mexico City prices are ridiculous and, like Polvo, I refrained from partaking on more than one occasion because it just felt like I was getting a bad deal. In addition, the women in Mexico are just not that good looking. For some reason, they appear to be even less interested in their appearance that Peruvian women. In most cities you walk past one or two babes on the street that you would like to bang. Not so in Mexico City.

As a mongering destination, Mexico City is not even in the same ballpark as Lima. Lima has it beat hands down for value and for the cuteness of the chicas. For real competition you have to look to Colombia. I just got back from a business trip to Bogota and can confirm something I have known since my first trip there. Colombia has many beautiful women that are accessible to gringos and mongering prices are closer to Lima than Mexico City. And Colombian chicas definitely have the edge on Peruvian chicas when it comes to personal grooming and appearance. They care about how they look and dress. The absolute best in this regard, of course, are Venezuelan chicas. Most of them dress like porn stars and I have no idea how men drive cars in Caracas without getting into more accidents.

Just my two cents and your mileage may vary.

The Cat

Catire
02-23-07, 03:43
The absolute best in this regard, of course, are Venezuelan chicas. Most of them dress like porn stars and I have no idea how men drive cars in Caracas without getting into more accidents.

Just my two cents and your mileage may vary.

The Cat


btw the way re driving in Caracas. The answer is easy, you get used to it. (female distractions). When you're constantly surrounded by them, they're not as distracting.

I'd take issue with the porn star characterization. They do dress very sexy, but not sure where the porn angle comes in, unless you are commenting from a victorian/puritan gringo standpoint which holds that most latinas dress like hookers. Btw, I'd characterize porn star fashions style as garish, cheesy and overwhelmingly plastic. That's not the case in CCS.

TheCatsMeow88
02-23-07, 05:16
Catire,

I accept the criticism. "Porn stars" was a poor choice of words on my part. What I was trying to convey is that the girls in Caracas are generally well groomed, take pride in their image, and walk around the streets wearing short skirts, high heels and revealing tops, thereby drawing attention to themselves. I am referring to a large chunk of the female population here and not just the "putas". Though porn stars also wear short skirts and heels, I agree with you that "sexy" or "provocative" rather than "porn star" is a better characterization of the Caracas look.

I think you are, nonetheless, agreeing with the main point that I was trying to make that Venezuelan girls dress to please, more so than their Peruvian and Mexican counterparts. I still maintain that Peruvian girls have something to learn in this regard.

The Cat



btw the way re driving in Caracas. The answer is easy, you get used to it. (female distractions). When you're constantly surrounded by them, they're not as distracting.

I'd take issue with the porn star characterization. They do dress very sexy, but not sure where the porn angle comes in, unless you are commenting from a victorian/puritan gringo standpoint which holds that most latinas dress like hookers. Btw, I'd characterize porn star fashions style as garish, cheesy and overwhelmingly plastic. That's not the case in CCS.

Catire
02-23-07, 07:25
Catire,

I accept the criticism. "Porn stars" was a poor choice of words on my part. What I was trying to convey is that the girls in Caracas are generally well groomed, take pride in their image, and walk around the streets wearing short skirts, high heels and revealing tops, thereby drawing attention to themselves. I am referring to a large chunk of the female population here and not just the "putas". Though porn stars also wear short skirts and heels, I agree with you that "sexy" rather than "porn star" is a better characterization of the Caracas look.

I think you are, nonetheless, agreeing with the main point that I was trying to make that Venezuelan girls dress to please, more so than their Peruvian or Mexican counterparts. I still maintain that Peruvian girls have something to learn in this regard.

The Cat

this might be the wrong forum for this particular discussion, but I'll chime in anyways


I have to yet to go to Peru (on my to do list), and am little impressed with Mexico, but there is a saying in Venezuela

no hay mujeres feas, solamente mal arregladas

(there are no ugly women, only women who are badly made up/fixed up)

Venezuela is very unique from the standpoint that it almost always wins every VANITY survey/poll - meaning that culturally and socially, vanity is taken very seriously - and this not only applies to the women btw (though mostly)

You will almost never ever see a crappily dressed woman ANYWHERE, even walking down the street (especially walking down the street).

And of course, due to the climate and the culture, the women definitely dress to impress, show off what they've got, etc.

this tends to be the case in most latin countries but in Venezuela it is taken to its complete extreme.

TheCatsMeow88
03-02-07, 20:03
All,

For those who are under the impression that Peruvians do not know or care about this site, following is an interesting tale.

About a year ago I started chatting (online) with a 25 year old Peruvian lady by the name of Zobeyda. She was cute enough and decent enough but it never never went anywhere and we stopped chatting after a few weeks. I never looked her up despite numerous trips to Lima over the past twelve months. Too many distractions, as I have commented before.

As a result of a recent trip, I posted photos (face obscured to protect the innocent) of an exquisite young lady whose name also happens to be Zobeyda. It is not the same girl, just the same name. Well, earlier today I received this e-mail from the first Zobeyda who, bear in mind, I have not talked to in months. This is what she had to say:

"hi, guess what? i saw website talking about one zobeyda u met in peru an saying to another people , first you never meet me by real and second why are you acting like that? its making my profile so bad and embarased, explain me that pls."

Pretty good English for a Peruvian, actually. Of course, I replied telling her that it was a case of mistaken identity. What baffled me regarding her note, however, is that the posted photos are clearly of a different girl. It begged the question: "How did this confusion come about?". The only rational explanation I came up with is that she was exposed to the text but not the photos.

I draw one of two conclusions from this incident:

Either a) Peruvians are lurking on the site and are sharing information among themselves or b) we have a traitor in our midsts by which I mean someone is feeding these girls snippets of information from the ISG site. If the latter is true, it would have to be one manipulative m*****f***** and I have my suspicions as to who that might be. However, I will refrain from making any accusations until I have gathered sufficient data to substantiate my theory.

What it all means, unfortunately, is that I will have to be extra careful about hiding the identities of girls when posting photos and stories of my escapades in the future.

The Cat

Jimmy B
03-03-07, 05:07
Either a) Peruvians are lurking on the site and are sharing information among themselves or b) we have a traitor in our midsts by which I mean someone is feeding these girls snippets of information from the ISG site. If the latter is true, it would have to be one manipulative m*****f***** and I have my suspicions as to who that might be. However, I will refrain from making any accusations until I have gathered sufficient data to substantiate my theory.

What it all means, unfortunately, is that I will have to be extra careful about hiding the identities of girls when posting photos and stories of my escapades in the future.

The CatWell, I posted this before. There is a link of ISG site in Perutop.com any Peruvian could've seen the the post and pics.

TheCatsMeow88
03-04-07, 04:57
All,

Of course I understand that anyone with internet access can view this site. The question is not whether it can be accessed by Peruvians but how many Peruvians punters, I am talking about Peruvian guys who live in Peru, actually know about it and access it on a regular basis. The link from the Perutop.com website, which I was not aware of, greatly increases the likelihood of Peruvians seeing these postings.

However, I have also come across Peruvian girls who are aware of this site, or at least of some of the materials posted on it (Miss Zobeyda being one of them). I doubt that they are locating the site by linking to it from Perutop.com. So how do they gain exposure to the materials? I have strong reason to believe that at least one person who posts in the Peru section also shares selected materials with the girls for his own manipulative reasons.
This is a pity because there is an unwritten rule, and maybe even a written one in Jackson's guidelines, regarding disclosing the existence of this site and its contents to chicas.

The Cat

Member #4351
03-04-07, 17:03
Well TheCatsMeow88, since you want to go on and on about this situation I will be happy to tell you that I did in fact let a girl know that you were posting her pics and showing her face without her permission. This was necessary in order to avoid her thinking that I had posted the photos in question, since I obviously have more photos of her in various stages of undress. I also mentioned this on the forum after you made the post. If the girl and her family are looking for you, its your own fault. I knew the girl as a model and as a friend, not as a working girl and therefore felt it necessary to let her know what you had done so that she could get in touch with you and have you remove the photos. I would do the same again. I didn´t give her the name of the forum or a link.

These girls (who are not pros) have their private lives here, and this should be respected. You posted the photos after I posted a couple of more reserved ones of the same girl. I suppose you wanted to "one up" me by showing that you knew her and then posting more revealing photos. I have no problem with that if you have the girl´s permission, as I had. But you didn´t.

As far as your "Miss Zobeyda " goes, if she found out about your posts it wasn´t from me. As there are probably no more than two girls with that name in Peru, it was obviously not a good idea to post it on a monger´s forum. Since it is doubtful that the few Peruvians living in Peru that read this site have paid Jackson his $19.99, it is highly improbable that she or her boyfriend, or whoever saw the photos. Therefore it is also extremely unlikely that the girl in question could have known that you weren´t talking about her. I suggest you show more respect and post with more discretion in the future. As least change the girls´ names.

I won´t waste my time commenting further on this situation. As those who have read my posts know, I have better things to do.

TheCatsMeow88
03-08-07, 22:47
Good report and you did a much better job than me on your first trip to Lima. You did your homework and it paid dividends.

1) I am curious about your age. I would guess that you are in your late twenties or thirties.

2) Glad to see that someone was able to put to good use all of the information on this site. It makes sharing the information all the more rewarding.

3) The only surprise is no Tequila's. Too busy or just not your scene?

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
03-11-07, 23:23
LB,

The Cat: I am in my late late thirties, but was told by the Peruanas that I looked 30-35, so I didn't argue LOL. I did hit Tequilas one night for about an hour. Nothing jumped out as far as talent, it wasn't bad though. Kind of looked at it as a last resort.

Jacque,

Thanks for the clarification.

The reason I was curious about your age is that my impression of the Bierhaus in Barranco is that it is for the younger crowd (early twenties) and I believe I said as much in my description of it. If you look 30-35 you can still credibly pull chicas in their twenties. I would not recommend Bierhaus to someone in the mid-forties like myself.

To be clear, I regularly pull chicas in their early twenties when in Lima. I just don't go to the Bierhaus, or any of the discos in LarcoMar, to do it.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
03-13-07, 04:55
When you take that sauna where is your stuff ? No matter how little it may be you need to get back to your hotel ?

Artisttyp,

Actually, they have you put your valuables into a brown paper bag. The bag is stapled shut and put into a numbered locker at the front desk. My memory fails me on this detail but you may, or may not, get to keep the key to the locker. Either way, the mamasan guards the lockers with her life; not to mention that there is a gate and security guard controlling who gets in and out of the place. Bottom line: your stuff is safe. I have never lost anything at RyV and I have never heard of anyone losing anything at RyV.

You do not need to hold onto some cash to pay the girl's tip. You can do that after you get your stuff back as you will get an opportunity to see the girl again.

The Cat

PS The best girl I have had in RyV is Caterina. See my Feb 4 report on this thread. Camila is highly regarded (some say the best) but I am in no position to judge as I have never had an appointment with her.

TheCatsMeow88
03-14-07, 18:55
Wonder if my Camila came back or they have a new one using that name to draw on the reputation of the legend. Can you describe Camila's look gato?

Hope you don't mind if I take this one! Yes, it is the real Camila who is back! Unfortunately I have not heard any good reports on her performance. That being said "most Newbies" still report fairly good experiences at R&V while Lima regulars say it has gone down the tubes.

LB[/QUOTE]


LB,

Thank you and I am glad you were able to field the question as I have no idea what the "real" Camila looks like. Not only have I never had an appointment with her, I have never met her either!

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
04-25-07, 05:32
I sense the imminent arrival of another syrupy comments session here.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
04-25-07, 16:29
Mr. Tee,

Yow will be able to watch the Chelsea-Liverpool match later today in one of the many bars/restaurants on Calle Pizza, just off of Parque Kennedy. I was able to catch the Chelsea-Blackburn semi-final (with Spanish commentary) in the comfort of my hotel room at the Marriott a couple of weeks ago but that is probably a hit or miss thing.

Regarding day action, if massage places with happy endings are your thing you should try Relax y Vida:

Banos Turcos Relax y Vida
Carlos Villaran #121
Santa Catalina – 265-5370
12° 05.366' S, 77° 01.291' W
Open daily from 10:00 AM until 10:00 PM
http://www.geocities.com/relax_y_vida

Caterine and Camila are both good choices.

The Cat




Mr. Tee: You must be British. Didn't know they came from Europe!! :-)

If you are in Miraflores, "The Corner" sports bar on Larco / Juan Fanning probably will have the match.

Suerte!

Polvo

Lima Busy
04-25-07, 17:01
Caterine and Camila are both good choices.

The Cat
Cat & others,
Camila is no longer there! She is scheduled to return in July. If mature women are your thing "Karen" one of the managers is a absolute "Firecracker"!

LB

TheCatsMeow88
05-14-07, 04:40
Disco Etheria, one of the "in" discos in Lima, is celebrating it's one year anniversary on Wednesday night (May 16). My sources tell me that the place will be hopping. I have never been there but apparently the real action starts at around 11:30pm. My understanding is that Etheria is a regular disco, like Gotica in Larco Mar, and so the talent will be mostly, if not all, non-P4P girls. The address is:

Disco Etheria
Calle Ucello 220
San Borja

I am actually arriving into Lima that evening and already have a wonderful 21 year old student lined up as the greeting and entertainment party. She is not P4P and did not ask for money last time she spent the night with me but, of course, I am delighted to unilaterally contribute a small token of my appreciation to her education fund. I am half-tempted to check into the hotel, drop off my luggage and then drag her across town just to check out the action. I am even more tempted to lose her altogether and drag myself across town alone with the intention of picking up some strange wool on the fly. My gut tells me that Etheria will be a target rich environment on Wednesday. However, not having something specific lined up the first night usually leads to a less than satisfactory experience and I swore to myself that I would never let that happen again.

Guys, any suggestions? Lima Busy, what would you do? Deal or No Deal? Is a bird in the hand really better than two in the bush? HELP!

The Cat

PS Just to liven things up a little on this thread, attached are three photos of a 22 year old chica I banged in Bogota a couple of weeks ago. I know I should really write a lengthy post and submit it in the Colombia section but I just cannot seem to be bothered at the moment. Maybe that is something I will get around to in Lima while I wile away the hours between chicas.

PPS I plan to look into Rosita and Paola's referall service when I am down there and will report on what I learn! Third hand reports have been very positive and so I am going to look into this for myself.

TheCatsMeow88
05-15-07, 04:41
LB,

I appreciate your advice as well as Judd's viewpoint. There are pros and cons with both approaches, of course. Discos are not, per se, a problem for me but staying up until 3 or 4 in the morning is not my idea of a fun time, especially after a long flight down from the US. On the other hand, what is more exciting than hunting for new prey and not knowing whether the outcome will be feast or famine?

I do not plan on taking over anyone's turf so the "mafia" element should not be an issue. The biggest risk, by the way, is accidentally hitting on someone's girlfriend, as I once did in Bartini's. I speak enough Spanish to talk myself out of those situations but there is always the risk of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Judd,

Thank you for your advice. "Never bring ants to the picnic" makes good sense to me and I will either go alone or not at all. The young lady in question is a real student and has real classes early on Thursday morning. Consequently, asking her to stay up until the early hours would not be too considerate of me; not to mention that making love while the sun is rising, romantic as it may sound, is not my cup of tea. She probably would not go for it, anyway. Regarding looks, she is attractive (At least in my book). Her features are different from the Colombian girl and though she is not as chesty she is just as good looking.

In conclusion, Plan A is to hook up with my student friend, go to the hotel, bang her until I am exhausted and then get some rest. This gives me a fighting chance to acquit myself well with the chica scheduled for Thursday. If her plans change or she does not show, then I will be at the Etheria one year anniversary party on Wednesday night and will write a field report. It would appear that the bird in the hand wins out!

The Cat





This club was discovered by "hoofhunter" last year and imortalized by Screwedup and his crew!(remember his shootout video on TV a few months back).

Wednesday is "THE" night there as is Tuesday at Bartini. I am not a "disco" person so naturally I would opt for the "bush in the hand". Having said that if "plan A" fails it is a good "plan B" as it pulses till 6-7am. As with any "peruvian club" popular with the "narco crowd" it is always wiser to go in with friends.

The other night we were three Gringo's and a Peruvian girl in a popular restaurant and the "local mafia" made it their business to let us know we were on their turf!

LB

Mr Enternational
06-05-07, 01:31
i was supposed to arrive in lima at 11pm, but i arrived an hour late. patty, a non-pro from online, who was supposed to meet me at the airport had already made her way back home. i went outside to grab a taxi to the nido inn in miraflores. the first two thought they could pull 30 soles out of me. impossible. the third met my going rate of 25.

i arrived at the nido at san martin 211. while the chica was checking me in i skimmed over the primitive microsoft excel spreadsheet that they use as a reservations system. i have heard of price discrimination but damn! while the internet quotes the price of a single as us$60, i was able to wrestle them down to 42. on the spreadsheet i saw quoted prices of 45 and 40 next to other people's reservations. i went to the room, took a dump, and headed to the rock.

i stood outside for a spell waiting for a friend who was staying at las americas. while waiting, two chicas (one butt-ugly) approached me and asked if i wanted to go dancing and drinking with them. but not in their wildest dreams. i went to the public phone and called romy, my 4'11" 21 year-old chinese-peruana go-to-girl. she doesn't get off work at the casino until midnight so i knew she would not have a problem coming to miraflores at 1:30, especially for a surprise visit by her amor. she said that her roommate would be coming with her. i said good, because my friend is also with me.

i entertained myself by watching a sw for the 10 additional minutes that i waited on the corner for my friend. maybe he had already entered tr. i pay the 20 soles to enter and do a slight jog down the steps. damn! i have never seen that many people in tr, granted it is only my fourth time in the club. one of the first people i see with their back against the rail was a smoking japanese peruana. immediately i thought that there is no need to call kaory (coutesy of thecatsmeow) because she is right here in the club. just as i was about to approach her an older gentleman stepped up and whispered into her ear. he then went off to the bar between the banos and she followed him. after they received their drinks, they started back for the rail in front of the center bar. i was posted up right on the corner at the bottom of the stairs so i pulled her over to my side. i asked her name and she told me manuela. i am thinking to myself that i know this is kaory. why is she playing games? i tell her to go write her number down and i would call later (because i want to compare it to the one i received in the info packet.) i figured there was no way she was going to return. pops was giving her free drinks and all i was going to offer her was dick at what was probably half of her rate. (now that i am able to look at the pictures again i see that it was not kaory.)

my friend finally arrived and he kicked around some stories about his previous trips to tr. he ran into some chicas that he knew and we had a few laughs with them. i told him that i was sorry he had to pay to get in, but one of my casi-novias would be arriving at the hotel soon with a friend for him. i saw one chica at the bar who was the spitting image of a chick from bangladesh who i had a couple of classes with in grad school. i always wanted to hit, and maybe i could have if i would have made the study abroad with her in south africa. i viewed this as my second chance. i gamed it up a little and told her that i wanted her to cook for me at her house. she said she lived with her family but it was definitely possible. i got her number but when i called her the next afternoon she was out eating with her family, but she said she could get together with me about 9. she missed her window by calling at midnight, so i didn't answer the phone.

i met a tall blonde chica who said her regular job is a massage therapist. she quoted me us$20/ hour for a massage at her office. but with prices like that a head job must be included. i'm too used to the $8/hour bangkok deals. anyway, i took her number as well and went back to the hotel.

we waited outside for 10 minutes until a taxi pulled up. i told my friend that it couldn't be her because there is only one passenger in the car. but it was her. she appologized about coming without her roommate because the roommate had to work early the next day. even so, for sure as shit, i bitched her out about it because i had my friend there waiting for nothing.

my friend said that he would head back to tr. me and romy entered the hotel. the desk clerk took her id and locked it in the cash drawer. we went upstairs and i was ready to fuck. she said that she couldn't fuck because she was sick. i kept asking how are you sick? she finally said that she was on her period. but if pigs can fuck through mud, then i can fuck through blood. she said that she didn't have any kind of experience in the sex department so she wanted me to teach her everything. i really didn't give it any thought the first time we were together a couple of months ago. but she was tight then, and seemed she was even tighter this time. a quasi-virgin you could say. that is a virgin with no cherry. but how could that be if i we started fucking last time within a couple of hours of meeting? was my game that good? i would have thought so if not for all the stories from david. (by the way, i'm still trying to figure out how it works.) i didn't have to teach her much in the bj department, because as they say a virgin mouth gives the best head. and for a first-timer she did better than most veterans. as bad as i wanted to initiate her with cim, i didn't have the heart to do it. plus i wanted to save my load for the fuck. it was already 3 in the morning and i had been up since 6 the previous morning. however, i did manage a futb while daty. after that it was strictly missionary. we took separate showers then passed out together.

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

TheCatsMeow88
06-11-07, 16:35
Daved,

I had a problem getting a girl into my room at the Sheraton about a year ago. Basically, security would not let the girl up to the room without proper ID. The girl in question did not bring her ID along and I did not think to ask her to bring it along. I guess the policy is for our protection but the net result was that I was stuck with a girl in the lobby rather than in my room taking care of business. To my knowledge there is no extra charge for guests.

The policy may have changed now but I have not been there recently and have no idea. At the Marriott, no girl I have taken to my room has been challenged for ID. The only time it has been an issue at the Marriott is when I have tried to take girls into the casino. Two of my lady friends were refused entry to the casino because they were not carrying ID. I have also walked girls into the casino without being challenged so I have no idea what the rule/criterion is.

The Cat



Does anyone know if this hotel is girl friendly? Do they charge extra for a guest? And if I arrange to meet the girl outside at the park and walk in with her would that be best? Thanks in advance!

TheCatsMeow88
07-25-07, 19:50
As you all know there are a lot of clubs in Lima and the situation changes rapidly.

Here is some current info:

Downtown- Has reopened but is only 1/2 the size.

Phuket- has reopened and is hopping again for the older crowd.

Cafe La Mar- Once Lima's hot restuarant/disco has been closed due to discrimination.

La Sede- Is currently the new "La Mar" with a real upscale crowd.

Aura- Still the place to be on Sat. nites.

443- has gone downhill

Cala- Better in the summer, still happening on weekends.

Old Pub- Some of the older "Gringo's" have been pulling from there recently.

Tasca- The bloom is off that rose!

Huaringa- Still happening upscale crowd.

Besitos,

Rosita

Rosita,

Thank you for the update. I believe that it is truly valuable when someone with local knowledge and presence provides current information regarding the club scene or pick-up scene.

As you point out, the situation is changing rapidly. Not so long ago, Cafe La Mar was the "in" place. What does it mean that they were closed down for discrimination? Were they discriminating against people who could not afford the entrance fee or was there something more sinister going on? Are there plans to re-open?

Where is La Sede located?

I plan to visit Lima in September so if you do not mind, I will contact you before my arrival for the most current information.

The Cat

Miraflores Apt
07-25-07, 22:35
Rosita,

Thank you for the update. I believe that it is truly valuable when someone with local knowledge and presence provides current information regarding the club scene or pick-up scene.

As you point out, the situation is changing rapidly. Not so long ago, Cafe La Mar was the "in" place. What does it mean that they were closed down for discrimination? Were they discriminating against people who could not afford the entrance fee or was there something more sinister going on? Are there plans to re-open?

Where is La Sede located?

I plan to visit Lima in September so if you do not mind, I will contact you before my arrival for the most current information.

The CatCat,

Thank you for the compliment, I will keep the board updated. I realize most of you guys are "age impaired" and do not go to the Bierhaus or Bartini's so I will try to stay on top of the thirty & up places.

Cafe la Mar first opened a few few years ago in Asia for the upscale crowd that summers there. It was so popular that they opened the winter version in S.I. They have been fined several times for discrimination against "non-Whites" and after a feature are local TV were ultimately closed down.

Mama Battatas was recently fined S/.85000 for the same reason but do to its location was not closed. Recently my Arab friend (who is extremely wealthy) was denied entrance because of the girls he was with.

La Sede is a colonial mansion at 441 28th of July,and near the Marriott. It is very popular with the models and is where you will find Gaston late at night. I forgot to mention that "Spa" in S.I. is still a place alot of my clients go and it is hopping as well.

I know you are a fan of "Huaringa", my girlfriends and I were there last night about 12 on a Tuesday and it was great. Other than Bartini, Tuesday is slow in Lima.

Besitos,

Rosita

TheCatsMeow88
08-15-07, 06:55
Not that anyone cares but I have been back and forth to India on business over the last three months. I really miss Lima. The good news (for me, at least) is that I am coming to Lima in September and have some top notch talent lined up.

Just in case anyone happens to be curious, the following post describes my recent mongering adventures in Delhi.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=959

Anybody who knows Lima prices knows that $3,000-$4,000 per week is silly money regardless of the quality of the talent. You could retain the services of the best girls that Lima has to offer for a fraction of that amount. By the way, if anyone bothers to read Rosita's original post, the $3,000-$4,000 per week referred to girls willing to travel, presumably outside of Peru. Premier Lima talent was quoted at $3,000-$4,000 per month, not per week. Whilst this represents a 75% reduction in price it is still more than you need to pay.

Tiny 12: USD 100 will get you top notch talent in Lima for 2-3 hours and often even overnight. Of course, as in any country Peru has its models, actresses and celebrities that can name their own price but my assumption is that we are talking about working girls, semi-pros and college students here.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
08-16-07, 14:47
I am in the telecommunications business and it is interesting that the phone service went down while internet communication stayed up. I was able to online chat with a couple of my contacts down there immediately after the earthquake hit whilst all efforts to dial Peruvian cell phone numbers ended in failure. A similar thing happened in NYC and Washington DC on 9/11. Apparently politicians were unable to make phone calls but could communicate via their Blackberry's e-mail. The irony is that the phone system is supposed to be "always available"- with all kinds of redundancy built in- whilst the internet is a "best effort" service meaning that it is allegedly less reliable.

My thoughts (I don't pray) go out to everyone in Lima and the coastal region south of Lima. Apparently, the epicenter was closer to Ica and the coastal road was made unusable. I hope I am wrong but the worst news may be yet to come once they are able to assess what happened south of Lima.

I hope everyone gets out of this ok and that the worst of it is behind us.

Polvo - Thank you for the update regarding our brothers-in-arms. It sounds like only David33 is unaccounted for. We have had our differences but I sincerely hope that he is ok.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
08-17-07, 16:49
Does anyone feel its wrong to come down and stalk peruvian women right after a disaster ? I cant believe I just wrote that considering my history but for some odd reason I feel like I shouldnt come out of respect.

Please someone talk me out of not coming . I was really looking forward to it.

Artisttyp,

Just the opposite is true. They need us, and our money, all the more down there right now.

Here is the only way to look at it. There are a whole bunch of mongers who will cancel trips or just stay away from Lima for the next few weeks for whatever reason, just as you are considering doing (Pick your reason: a. It is not safe, b. There could be aftershocks/repeats, c. The buildings might collapse, d. Out of respect, as you put it etc. et.c. etc.). Aside form your own reaction, read Lima Busy's posting from yesterday if further proof is required. It states words to the effect that: "The Arabs just called me to cancel their reservations for the penthouse". That is just human nature.

The fallout is that tourism in general, and the girls in particular, will suffer because there will be significantly less business to go around. My prediction is that those of us who travel to Lima in the coming weeks (As I definitely plan to do) will experience an even better selection at lower prices. Best of all, the girls will be truly grateful for the business. Take my word for it, there has never been a better time to visit Lima than right now and you have a moral obligation not to cancel the trip.

Although not exactly the same, I was on an airplane a few days after 9/11. I was the only one on the plane (or close to it) and never felt safer. Same principle.

The Cat

ChicagoDancer
08-17-07, 17:20
CatsMeow/David33 and LB!!

The 3 amigos will be hot and ready and still destined and scheduled to come. The question is can la Peruanas handle us' !

LB ! Hook me up already! Whats this I read below about RP's girls'?

Email me.

So far we will be there to enjoy and culturalize ourselves.

Bartini - first stop! Tuesday.


Artisttyp,

Just the opposite is true. They need us and our money all the more down there right now.

Here is the only way to look at it. There are a whole bunch of mongers who will cancel trips or just stay away from Lima for the next few weeks for whatever reason, just as you are considering doing (Pick your reason: a. It is not safe, b. There could be aftershocks/repeats, c. The buildings might collapse, d. Out of respect, as you put it etc. et.c. etc.). Don't take my word for it. Just read Lima Busy's posting from yesterday in which he states that the Arabs called him to cancel their reservations for the penthouse. That is just human nature.

As a result, the girls will suffer as there is less business to go around. My prediction is that those of us who travel to Lima in the coming weeks (As I definitely plan to do) will experience an even better selection at lower prices. Best of all, the girls will be truly grateful for the business. Take my word for it, there has never been a better time to visit Lima than right now.

Although not exactly the same, I was on an airplane a few days after 9/11. I was the only one on the plane (or close to it) and never felt safer. Same principle.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
08-21-07, 10:11
We dropped by Tequilas the other night and noticed that some of the girls were hanging by the door with there coats in their laps. This is the Peruvian version of "earthquake preparedness". They are not to happy being downstairs with the daily aftershocks so they will cut prices to get out of their early.
LB

LB,

As predicted in my response to Artisttyp.

My prediction remains that value for money will continue to improve in the coming weeks, through a combination of lower prices and/or top end chicas being more readily available due to less demand. As I said, in my previous post, there has never been a better time to visit Lima for mongering purposes. I cannot wait for September to arrive.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
08-24-07, 13:48
Hey guys, I'm heading to Peru for my first time, and will be there for 2 weeks. I hear I should definitely visit Cusco and Machu Pichu, and Arequepos (sp?). I'm going to meet a girl in Lima that I met through a dating service, so that may or may not work out. It seems that there is plenty of good action in Lima if it doesn't work out. My question is how many days would you recommend spending in Lima, given that I have 2 weeks total. I hear there isn't much to do or see there, and if things don't work out with the girl I don't want to be stuck and bored. I have to book my hotel with a check out date so I have to decide now how long to stay in Lima. Any suggestions?

Thanks!


Doc Bill:

How many days you should spend in Lima depends on your objectives in life. My advice is that 3-4 days spent seeing Cusco/Machu Picchu is time well invested. After all, MP was recently voted as one of the new seven wonders of the world. In addition, Cusco is supposed to be quite the party town.

If you want to see Arequipa and/or the rest of the country, then do the research and go for it. Personally, and because I am an unashamed monger who prefers chasing tail than engaging in culturally enriching activities, I would spend the rest of the time in a hotel somewhere in Lima, preferably Miraflores. From there, you can chase skirt to your hearts content. If chasing skirt is not how you get your jollies, then please ignore all of the above advice.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
08-27-07, 09:28
Thanks so much, guys, for the feedback. My objective is definitely to chase skirts, and also see some of what Peru has to offer (Cusco, MP), and maybe Arequepos (recommend or no?). Based on what you're saying it seems that I wouldn't get bored spending a week in Lima and the other week (or less) seeing other sights. Any good action in Cusco or Arequepos?

Are the reports I keep hearing about Lima being so dangerous exaggerated, like they are for Rio and other places?

As for the girls, what's the best way to go in Lima - p4p, non-pro, street hookers, outcall, etc?

So I've narrowed my hotel choices down to Las Americas Hotel or Plaza del Bosque. Any recommendations? And any general advice you can give a first time mongerer in Peru, specifically Lima, would be greatly appreciated.

I hope this gives you a more specific idea of where I'm coming from. Thanks again for the help!

Doc Bill,

Based on your posting, you could spend a month in Lima and not get bored.

As in many large cities, there are areas of Lima that are dangerous. I have heard that the center of Lima can be that way but have never, personally, had any problems there. If you stick with Miraflores, Barranco, San Isidro, San Borja and a few other safe districts you should not experience any problems. In these districts, you run the same risks that you run in any large city.

There does appear to be quite a bit of crime outside of these areas. I cannot tell you how many sob stories I have heard from girls who have had their cell phone and/or wallet stolen. Too many for it to be just a coincidence. There was even one girl, whom I wrote about a while back, that was kidnapped, driven from bank to bank and forced to empty the contents of her bank account using her ATM card. I have never heard of a gringo being targeted but I do not live in Lima and do not, therefore, consider myself an authority.

Regarding girls, street hookers is not the way to go. College students, shop assistants, hairdressers, waitresses and other semi-pros looking to make a few bucks, or just curious to see what it is like to screw a gringo, are available in abundance. Good quality P4P is also available.

I hope this helps.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
09-19-07, 03:17
All,

I was in Lima for the weekend and would like to report my findings.

I spent most of Saturday morning/afternoon with a 19 year old student who claims to be a virgin. I met her on the internet and what attracted me to her was that she is 5'10" tall and looked like top-flight model material in the photos she sent me. The photos must be a couple of years old because she has put on a few pounds. Though not fat, she is no longer the lithe beauty that I was expecting. Though still eminently doable, I was real disappointed and created a fictitious business dinner appointment to get rid of her in the early evening.

The dinner appointment did take place but not with a business colleague. I took Paola (name changed to protect the innocent), a 21 year old hairdresser who looked just great in the photos she sent me, to the Rosa Nautica. She stayed with me all night and through 3:30pm the next day. What can I say about Paola? Well, she drinks like a fish (she got through 10 beers in the time she was with me and would have drunk at least 6 more had I not run out). She has a stockings fetish, which works out rather nicely for me. She wants to star in a porno movie. She has the face of an angel and is an absolute firecracker in bed; I still have the scratch marks on my legs to prove it. She does insist on protection for sex and blow jobs, which is sensible but somewhat disappointing. Anal is no problem at all and she took a huge dildo up her ass. Enjoy the photos from our time together.

4 - The high heels
9 - The sexy lingerie, a gift from The Cat
10 - The chair pose
12 - The smile
17 - The goods
19 - The legs
26 - The look - I really wish you could see the eyes on this one
39 - The money shot
40 - The money shot, take 2
41 - The change of lingerie into something more revealing

At 4pm on Sunday my regular masseur showed up for a scheduled 2 hour massage + hand job session. At around 5pm I gave Sly One a call to say hello. He told me that he was with a young lady that he needed to find a home for her by 6pm due to schedule conflict. I cut my massage short to take the young lady off his hands and was ecstatic that I did. I kept her until 8:30pm and she actually rode with me to the airport as she lives near there. Thank you Sly One for your generosity.

Regarding Paola, I have not spoken to her since banging her mercilessly for 12 hours and do not know if she wants me to pass her information around. I will speak with her in the next few days. If she agrees, I will selectively send her contact info, on request, to people I trust. Based on the principle of quid pro quo, Sly One gets first crack. However, be warned that she does not work cheap.

I will be back at the end of the month and intend to pick up where I left off.

There is only one Lima.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
09-20-07, 20:12
Or instant karma, or whatever. After my bummer last night (see below) I was having nightcap with the bartender here in the hotel lobby (Las Americas) and then headed up the elevator to my room, which is on a high floor. At the 5th floor, where the bar is, a beautiful girl, maybe mid to late 20´s, comes in, gives me a bigs smile, and the whole vibe got cut off by this older American lady who also entered and wouldn´t keep her mouth shut about the most trivial of things.

So the girl got off first, and the old lady on my floor a few floors higher. WTF, I figured, what have a got to lose but a few moments of my time that I would have wasted anyway. So I take a long shot and go down to the floor where the girl got off. Sure enough she was there, so we started to talk as the elevator went back up to MY floor. She said she was there with a ¨friend¨and that she couldn´t find him to get into their room. Whatever. I asked if she´d like to come in my room for a drink and she said yes, and we then instantly proceeded to f=== our brains out for an hour or so.

She thanked me, left, and no contact information, which I wasn´t expecting. This morning at breakfast she came in and gave me a subtle smile before going over to join her "friend" at their table.

Doc Bill,

Elevators are a known source but, of course, there is a large dose of luck involved. You just cannot plan a mongering trip around picking up girls in elevators. However, it is definitely an added bonus when it happens. The good news is that these type of serendipitous encounters seem to happen more frequently in Lima. I pulled from an elevator in the Marriott, not so long ago, and posted the photos on ISG. She was quite a looker.

Waitresses on Calle Pizza are another option. Catch them at around 3-4pm, just before they get off their shift. Strike up an innocent discussion and if the Universe continues to cooperate, good things will happen.

You have learned your lesson about picking up the street walkers in the Parque Kennedy area. I have made that mistake TWICE (shame on me) and vowed that it will never happen again.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
09-20-07, 20:33
I used to complain about guys paying too much for pussy after I planned my first mongering trip to Panama City expecting $20 sessions only to arrive and find the going rate $80. I still found the sexy Panamanian girls for $20, but my dreams of the hottie Colombianas had to wait.

Now that I have some experience I realize the going rate doesn't mean anything, and some guys will pay $100 for something another guy will get for $60, or 150 soles for something another guy will get for 50.

Elberto,

I appreciate the sentiment but you are on dangerous ground here. The last thing you want to do is start a pricing discussion. We have been down that path a couple of times in the Lima section of this board and it always gets ugly.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
09-20-07, 22:43
I am glad to see you are enjoyng "elevator shopping". I have had a number of very fine experiences in Asis when I have paid special attention to the other folks in the elevator.

I particularly like to stand near the elevator bank between 0800 and 0900. If I have done an ST the night before and am still "wanting", I can usually make contact with a departing "honey". Price is not a problem because it is extra for her and she is usually willing to discount. If she has a manager, my morning offer is un-reported income for the girl.

The conversations can be very funny as they love to tell stories about drunken mongers who simply pass out without performing. When it comes time for the morning shot, the girls tell the monger they are too sore after all the "work" he gave her the night before. The girl can usually get by with giving an HJ.

I can't begin to count the nights I have been plastered, but I don't think I have ever been so drunk that I don't know if I got the sex I paid for.
'bare


LuvumBare,

Where is this "Asis" to which you refer?

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
09-27-07, 01:55
Hi .... I don't know Peru at all. I have just read many many posts and ... I'm sorry I am disillusioned by Peru. Everybody always speak about brothels and prostitutes with mechanical movements. No guys speak about a possible girlfriend experience. I have been in other countries in south america and mongering with regular girls is easy. That experience is wonderful and very easy. In Peru is it possible to have that experience? In which town?
I thank you

FoxesHunter,

You are correct. You do no know Lima at all and, clearly, you have not been reading my posts. The vast majority of my experiences in Lima are what you would call GFE. Lima Busy is correct: picking up regular girls in Lima is like stealing candy from a baby.

You see, the thing about Lima is that it caters to a wide range of budgets. There are, apparently, plenty of places where you can get laid for 30-50 soles. I say apparently because I have never personally visited them but there is no reason to doubt the credibility of the like of Artisttyp, who is doing a commendable job of reporting on the places he is discovering.

At the other end of the scale is Suites de Barranco where model-type girls will put you back USD 120-150 for two hours of fun. Once again, not my scene but available if you are that way inclined and can afford it.

And then there is everything else in between including massage parlors, Tequila Rocks and, most importantly for you, plenty of students, semi-pros and non-pros who would kill for a gringo boyfriend.

It is just plain wrong to say that there is no GFE in Lima. Like most things worth having, though, you have to make the effort to find it.

The Cat

Artisttyp
09-27-07, 05:28
FoxesHunter,

You are correct. You do no know Lima at all and, clearly, you have not been reading my posts. The vast majority of my experiences in Lima are what you would call GFE. Lima Busy is correct: picking up girls regular girls in Lima is like stealing candy from a baby.

You see, the thing about Lima is that it caters to a wide range of budgets. There are, apparently, plenty of places where you can get laid for 30-50 soles. I say apparently because I have never personally visited them but there is no reason to doubt the credibility of the like of Artisttyp, who is doing a commendable job of reporting on the places he is discovering.

At the other end of the scale is Suites de Barranco where model-type girls will put you back USD 120-150 for two hours of fun. Once again, not my scene but available if are that way inclined and can afford it.

And then there is everything else in between including massage parlors, Tequila Rocks and, most importantly for you, lots of students, semi-pros and plenty of non-pros who would kill for a gringo boyfriend.

It is just plain wrong to say that there is no GFE in Lima. Like most things worth having, though, you have to make the effort to find it.

The Cat


Yeah but dont be an idiot like me and meet the family. She wanted to come over to my apartment on a saturday night with a bottle of wine and foot cream. All that does is stink of marrige. I always get played for stupidity like that. Another girl asked me to wire her money before I came. I told her we could discuss it when I saw her but when she realized the tables were turning she disappeared.
My chicas from the troc and the massage place never came through either. One complained she didnt want to end up dead.
As of now the hoe scene has been working the best for me.

TheCatsMeow88
09-27-07, 12:14
My chicas from the troc and the massage place never came through either. One complained she didnt want to end up dead.
As of now the hoe scene has been working the best for me.

Apparently, a chica who was dating a gringo recently turned up in a suitcase. The girl I posted photos of a few days ago (Paola) was apprehensive about meeting me for the same reason. I was her first gringo and, quite frankly, she was initially scared to meet me because of the girl in the suitcase story, which was headline news in Lima, or so I am told.

The Cat

Lima Busy
09-27-07, 17:06
Apparently, a chica who was dating a gringo recently turned up in a suitcase. The girl I posted photos of a few days ago (Paola) was apprehensive about meeting me for the same reason. I was her first gringo and, quite frankly, she was initially scared to meet me because of the girl in the suitcase story, which was headline news in Lima, or so I am told.

The Cat
It is quickly becoming a urban legend down here and alot of guy's have been reporting some reticence on the part of chica's from the internet sites.

He was a regular at one of the watering holes in Miraflores and a few friends of mine knew him Iraqi Mike and Shang-hi Dave among them. He was a mule and met a girl (real knockout)on the internet. Subsequently married her then got busted in Miami.

LB

TheCatsMeow88
09-27-07, 18:26
I'm sorry if I am boring but I like to understand well.
I am a 50 old and goodlooking man, I take an interest about meeting young and regular girls. I know Colombia and I like it for mongering. If you know Colombia and Peru, can you tell me if in Peru is easy to have sex with normal (no pro) girls ... like Colombia? What are the differences between these countries?
I thank you!


FoxesHunter,

Your age is not a problem. If you are good looking, dress well, and have game and money, you will be able to pick up 19-25 year olds with no problem in Lima. And it would help if you speak Spanish.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
09-30-07, 21:28
3) That is why most Latin countries, especially, Mexico, and all of South America are shit holes. I have been to the farthest reaches of Asia and there is not trash on the side of the road and greasy, non showering brats running around tying to set you up for his older brother by tuggin' on your dick while just trying to have a peaceful afternoon. Asians are clean, they eat weird and nasty foods sometimes, but at least they are clean. I am cutting this trip short, I had booked 2 weeks but I am so typically Latin unthrilled I want to go back to Asia.

4) Lock everything down and watch their every move. This one *****, who hated sucking dick but I made her suck mine for at least 45 minutes, tried some lame ass reach in my pockets game. I should have smacked the ***** but instead I came on her face. I loved it, she hated it. Serves her right, I am good to every piece of pussy I get. I don't force anything. I pay them well (the forum creed calls for discretion). Tell them what I want and clearly state if I don't get what I want their ass is "out of the butter tub" and its another *****'s turn riding shotgone on the gravy train. (This practise applies to all woman except my Thai wife, I let her think she is in charge. She is lucky I love her) It is amazing how far this attitude will get you.

I can't recommend Peru to any unseasoned traveler. I have been traveling over 100k per year for the past 10 years and have been chasing pussy for 41 years. I am 42. If you really want the best mongering in the world with the best woman, kind, CLEAN and eager to serve plan your mongering to Cambodia or Vietnam. I will meet you there and pay for your first piece of asian rookie pussy (super cheap). But you can't tell my Thai wife. They are allowed to cut your dick off if you commit adultry. I still have my dick and I fucked a Vietnamese chick while my wife watched, but that's another story.

Travel wise, and be save. I am not a race hater but caucsian men are targets everywhere, especially in shithole Latin countries.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

What a bunch of crap. No trash on the side of the road? I guess your definition of the farthest reaches of Asia does not include India. Since you obviously have no respect for South America or its people, please do us all the favor of going back to Asia and never coming back.

Like you, I consistently rack up well over 100K flown miles a year. I have experienced great mongering destinations in Asia like Jakarta (my favorite), Singapore, Bankgok, and Hong Kong. I have also been to places, like Bombay, that are absolutely disgusting, sewer-infested hell-holes that make Lima look like the garden of Eden by comparison. The good in Asia is really good. The bad is worse than anything you will see in South America.

You know what is the real problem with Asia for those of us who live in the US? 24 hours of travel and up to 12 hours of time difference. That makes a short vacation impractical. Lima, on the other hand, is an 8 hour flight from NYC and a one hour time difference. Best of all, when you treat the girls with respect you get it back. Something you clearly have not learned to do, despite your 42 years of age.

Jackson - shame on you for nominating this bile for a Report of Distinction. No information was shared and all we got is this guys racist rantings and insults of South American people/culture. My vote is to ban this guy from posting on the Lima thread, not to nominate him for a Report of Distinction.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
10-01-07, 01:27
Well, I think you were a little more direct than me but the message is the same. You are 100% percent correct in your analysis and comments. Well said.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
10-02-07, 23:00
It goes by a variety of names loveme.com and a foreign affair, In your case do not move as you will see the girls in the elevator going to the top floor.

Usually 8-10 guys and about 200 girls. Some of the guys have rented the Penthouse and have private parties there. If anyone is going the girl to get is a 20 year old by the name if Lizeth. She works as a translator but Polvo & I have it on good authority she is a real throughbred when the crop is applied as she reaches the final pole!
LB

LB,

It must be a different agency because the only Lima tour being advertised on loveme.com is in March of next year.

Doc Bill,

You may be out of luck. No elevator procession for you, it would appear.

Elberto,

Can you please enlighten the board with some specifics?

The Cat

Dodger Bulldog
10-03-07, 22:49
the only Lima tour being advertised on loveme.com is in March of next year.The web page states the cost is $1595.

For that you get airport pickup, 7 days/6 nights hotel, translation service (but only in their office), and invitations to two socials with "unlimited personal introductions."

What am I missing here? Why would anyone pay that much for "introductions?"

"Claudia, I would like to present to you John Smith."

Wow.

I would think I could get my own lodging for six nights and one hell of a lot of pussy (instead of just "introductions") for $1595.

And when I am not busy mongering, I could make "unlimited" introductions on my own by saying "hola, como estas."

Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention the free "do-it-yourself fiance visa kit." Aaaargh....

DB

TheCatsMeow88
10-05-07, 10:10
Subtitled: I can´t resist a girl in uniform.

Then we go to lunch, which I paid for and would always expect to pay for. Then she had to go to her precinct to change and get ready for school, where she says she´s studying English and wants to get into the hotel business. We agree to meet tomorrow on her beat somewhere else in Miraflores.

So you probably already know my question: Have I been had? Or have I just been to Cuba too much?

Thanks guys.

Doc Bill,

USD 7 and the price of lunch? And she is a cop, besides! Are you kidding? No you have not been had because, in all likelihood, she is going to put out for you tomorrow. Does she have a sexy friend so that we can all do lunch today?

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
10-06-07, 17:00
Gentlemen,

Please find attached, for your entertainment pleasure, a few photos of the woman I had the pleasure of dating last night. She is a 23 year old student. Perhaps not quite model material but close enough and, physically, she has everything I am looking for in a woman. I am a leg man so you can imagine that I rate her as one of the best girls I have met in Lima. She is up there with Valentina from Tequila Rocks in my list of top 3.

Her real name is not Lorena and I have masked her face to protect her identity. Assuming she has a nice face (thought not a stunning one) I would like the collective wisdom of the Lima crew to come up with a rating (1-10 scale) for this girl. The reason I ask is that, as far as I am concerned, this one is a keeper and I am considering taking her on as a serious girlfriend. Please do not even think about asking me for contact details.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
10-06-07, 23:15
...is not so almighty anymore. The Lima street changers are offering anywhere between 2.95-2.98 soles to the dollar. I was getting 3.2 soles to the dollar when I first started coming here. The casino at the Marriott is still giving you 3 soles to the dollar but will only change USD 100 per person per day. The USD-EUR exchange rate is about 1.41 USD to the Euro, pretty much an all time low. Finally, all indications are that things are going to get worse before they get better. Brace yourself for 2.75 soles to the dollar.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
10-08-07, 18:36
All,

I somehow ended up on the caramelitosdelperu.com website and noticed Samira, or more precisely her ample chest. Those of you who follow my posts know that I like leggy girls but every now and then I get the urge to lay my hands on an oversized pair of tetas. Sometimes, in moments of weakness, I get to thinking that if I could find a tall, leggy girl that has tits the size of Africa and is trained as a professional masseur, I would marry her on the spot. Anyway, I digress.

And so it was that Samira ended up in my hotel room for a photography and balling session. Samira is a 21yo pharmacy student from out-of-town (forgot where) who works on the side to pay for her studies. The rest of her is not as compelling as the tetas but who cares. The best part was watching them swing back and forth in the mirror, like pendulums, as I took her from behind. Now that is a memory.

I hope you enjoy viewing the photos as much as I enjoyed taking them.

The Cat

PS Note to Jackson: Why do photos not display in the order that they are uploaded? In my opinion, the sequence in which photos are viewed adds something to their entertainment value.

TheCatsMeow88
10-08-07, 19:17
All,

A few more photos of the girl I seriously considered taking on as a permanent girlfriend. However, I am not ready to take the plunge and not least because it would limit my freedom to pursue mongering activities, which is the whole point of visiting Lima in the first place. Besides, she does not have tits the size of Africa and is not a trained masseur (Though, admittedly, both of these problems can be rectified). If you do not know what I am talking about, read my previous post.

Someone at Cafe Z mentioned a rotation of chicas. I don't know how you work it but that sounds like it has potential. Is anybody running a rotation right now? If so, please share your experiences, pros/cons and insights.

Thank you to everyone who rated Lorena in response to an earlier post. The ratings have consistently come back between 8-10 (with an average of well over 9), which is what I expected.

And those are the facts.

The Cat

Dodger Bulldog
10-09-07, 00:13
PS Note to Jackson: Why do photos not display in the order that they are uploaded? In my opinion, the sequence in which photos are viewed adds something to their entertainment value.I've also noticed that happens sometimes, and agree that the order of the photos can help
tell the story. But there is a simple workaround.

After you browse for the photo, go ahead and upload it. Repeat the process one by one in
the exact order that you want the pics to be shown.

It takes a couple minutes longer to load each one individually, but they will stay in the order
that you wish for them to be seen.

DB

TheCatsMeow88
10-09-07, 00:38
I've also noticed that happens sometimes, and agree that the order of the photos can help
tell the story. But there is a simple workaround.

After you browse for the photo, go ahead and upload it. Repeat the process one by one in
the exact order that you want the pics to be shown.

It takes a couple minutes longer to load each one individually, but they will stay in the order
that you wish for them to be seen.

DB

DB,

Thank you for the advice. I went back, deleted the photos and added them one at the time. It did the trick.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
10-09-07, 01:33
Great pics.

What was the name of the hotel you stayed at? It looks really comfortable.

Peace1,

The pictures were taken at the JW Marriott in Miraflores. It is a great hotel with excellent service but it is also somewhat pricey and often fully booked.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
10-09-07, 02:37
...is not so almighty anymore. The Lima street changers are offering anywhere between 2.95-2.98 soles to the dollar. I was getting 3.2 soles to the dollar when I first started coming here. The casino at the Marriott is still giving you 3 soles to the dollar but will only change USD 100 per person per day. The USD-EUR exchange rate is about 1.41 USD to the Euro, pretty much an all time low. Finally, all indications are that things are going to get worse before they get better. Brace yourself for 2.75 soles to the dollar.

The Cat

To: Spaniard21 and anyone else coming to Lima with Euros in their pocket:

Do not exchange Euros at the airport. You can do better with the street changers. Even the casino at the Marriot was quoting a pathetic 3.75 soles to the Euro. Over the weekend, I was consistently quoted 4.00-4.05 soles by the street changers and managed to actually negotiate 4.10 soles to the Euro. I did not try the banks.

The best place to change USD at the moment is the Marriott casino. When I left on Sunday, they were still paying 3.00 soles to the Euro compared to 2.95-2.98 on the street.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
10-09-07, 17:07
Troc week of Sept 21-22 had the most beautiful girls, chicas ever. The quality was comparable to Rio HELP that night.

Trock is really a great place but many want too much. We did start off at Bobos. Sept 18th then to Trock. Soo many sexy blonde Peruanas.



ChicagoDancer,

Happy to hear that you have found your future wife in Lima. Some of these girls are genuinely nice and deserve it. I hope it works out for the both of you.

However, I must be missing something here. I take it that the TROC you are referring to is not the low-end brothel that Artisttyp and others talk about but some high end night club or disco. If that is the case, could you please provide an address, directions or some other clue as to how to locate the place. Details on what nights to visit, what time and the entrance fee would be nice also.

The Cat

Lima Busy
10-09-07, 17:20
ChicagoDancer,

Happy to hear that you have found your future wife in Lima. Some of these girls are genuinely nice and deserve it. I hope it works out for the both of you.

However, I must be missing something here. I take it that the TROC you are referring to is not the low-end brothel that Artisttyp and others talk about but some high end night club or disco. If that is the case, could you please provide an address, directions or some other clue as to how to locate the place. Details on what nights to visit, what time and the entrance fee would be nice also.

The Cat
TROC=TEQUILA´S
Not my abbreviation, but I understood!

TheCatsMeow88
10-09-07, 19:30
TROC=TEQUILA´S
Not my abbreviation, but I understood!

Lima Busy,

Thanks for the clarification. I thought I was missing out on something important here! I am used to TR, rather than TROC, as the abbreviation for Tequila Rocks but it makes sense once you get it.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
10-09-07, 19:39
In Lima there is no reason to pay for sex except by choice. I imagine someone like Artisstyp does it for the adventure, and David33 does it because the opportunities he is offered are priceless, but he gets them for a nice price.

Elberto,

And some of us pay for sex by choice to help out the local chicas who earn a pittance (by US standards) if they are working and even less if they are not. I meet Peruvian girls via social networking websites (Example: latinlovesearch) and many of them are actually students who neither expect nor ask for money. I remember what it was like to be a student and give these girls gifts to help with their expenses. Believe me, I get it back tenfold in attitude, appreciation and willingness to please. Lorena is a case in point but there have been others.

Doc Bill wisely pointed out, in an earlier post, that he does not pay chicas for sex but, rather, he pays them to leave afterwards. There is plenty to be said for that viewpoint also.

The Cat

ChicagoDancer
10-10-07, 01:06
ChicagoDancer,

Happy to hear that you have found your future wife in Lima. Some of these girls are genuinely nice and deserve it. I hope it works out for the both of you.

However, I must be missing something here. I take it that the TROC you are referring to is not the low-end brothel that Artisttyp and others talk about but some high end night club or disco. If that is the case, could you please provide an address, directions or some other clue as to how to locate the place. Details on what nights to visit, what time and the entrance fee would be nice also.

The CatBoy do I honestly wish it would work out with her and I. I cried for first time in years when I had to leave for the airport.. why.. because I know in US I will never find a girl soo honest, soo beautiful soo sincere about how sexy I was and my chest hair etc... We still talk on MSN.

The place I am referring to is Tequilla Rock brotha. On Saturday nights many girls from different districts come after 1AM becuase its soo much fun to dance there with their friends. Seriously, many non pro's go Sat, and know about the other Pros around them but its about the MUSIC and dancing, so everynow and then they find a good boy like me who can tear up the dancefloor and doesnt not want a Pro for the night.

TheCatsMeow88
10-10-07, 16:40
Seriously, many non pro's go Sat, and know about the other Pros around them but its about the MUSIC and dancing...

Chicago Dancer,

Non-pros at Tequila Rocks? Sounds like an oxymoron to me but I will take your word for it.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
10-10-07, 19:14
about the chicas who travel and command the big bucks. Today down in Z we got ¨proof positive¨of a Tequila girl who received $25,000.00 USD. for a 8 day trip.
LB

LB,

USD 25,000 for a Tequila girl? Is her pussy made of gold or does the guy have way more money than sense? Couldn't you hire the entire TR staff for a week for that kind of money? Maybe he is a filthy rich Arab to whom money means nothing. Maybe he is into some really perverted stuff and she is the only girl on the entire planet that can service his needs. Who knows. It sounds wasteful and idiotic to me but who am I to judge how he decides to spend his money? I will say this. If someone gave me USD 25,000 to burn it would go a lot further than eight days with a Tequila ho.

The Cat

ChicagoDancer
10-12-07, 03:24
Chicago Dancer,

Non-pros at Tequila Rocks? Sounds like an oxymoron to me but I will take your word for it.

The CatSeriously, this place Trock is known by many people in Lima and USA as just for dancing..

For instance. We took Spirit Airlines and landed around 10: 45pm. Around 1am we were pounding drinks with our Stewerdess, Steward and yes. THE PILOT.

Now that's how WE DO!

TheCatsMeow88
10-12-07, 19:14
Around 1am we were pounding drinks with our Stewerdess, Steward and yes. THE PILOT.


ChicagoDancer,

Yes, but what I really want to know is if you were pounding anything else with the stewardess?

The Cat

Don River
10-13-07, 16:53
Chicago Dancer,

Non-pros at Tequila Rocks? Sounds like an oxymoron to me but I will take your word for it.

The Cat

"Puta" and a "Puta Fina" are terms some middle class girls use to distinguish between a working girl and someone who may be less commercially minded or not doing it for their primary source of income. It's more of a rationalization than a true distinction.

Don

TheCatsMeow88
10-13-07, 17:21
"Puta" and a "Puta Fina" are terms some middle class girls use to distinguish between a working girl and someone who may be less commercially minded or not doing it for their primary source of income. It's more of a rationalization than a true distinction.

Don

Don,

I have to be honest and say that the phrase that really does something for me is "Puta Barata". When a girl admits that she is your puta barata, you are pretty much assured a good time.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
10-13-07, 17:23
Excellent report, Bill. I guess it good that as a whole Lima is not that famous for mongering.

All,

Let's keep it that way. The last thing we want is for Lima to turn into another RDJ. I think we all agree that prices are moving in the wrong direction as it is already.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
10-13-07, 17:34
So to sum, for ease of scoring and strictly P4P I’d have to give Rio and BA the top score, but for having real relationships (if that’s what you want), it’s Peru hands down.

Doc Bill,

I agree with your assessment. What makes Lima different is the ease with which regular girls can be approached. However, most of these girls do no speak English and, therefore, Spanish is a must. In addition, there is a little more time and effort involved with regular girls than P4P girls and that is a factor also. Not everyone wants to make the investment required to approach/date/bed regular girls. We happen to find it a rewarding exercise but it is not for everyone.

The Cat

Hoof Hunter
10-13-07, 19:11
When I just read $100-200 TLN from Tequila Rocks chicks, I realized that Lima has crossed over to the status of Rio, Cartagena, and Santo Domingo.

Definitely going in the wrong direction, mostly thanks to the tourons with more money than common sense. Used to be a cool spot for decent fun at reasonable prices ($40-$60 TLN). Luckily, I've found the other versions of heaven on earth.


All,

Let's keep it that way. The last thing we want is for Lima to turn into another RDJ. I think we all agree that prices are moving in the wrong direction as it is already.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
10-14-07, 23:41
LOL, exactly!!! No way in hell will I submit new places to these boards, and rightfully so.

Hoof Hunter,

It is so nice to see one of our senior members completely disregarding the spirit of this board. This board is about sharing information, last time I checked. My opinion: Whether or not you decide to share information is completely up to you but if you are not going to share, please do not brag about it.

There are people that post on this board who I consider to be complete assholes but even they have the common sense not to brag about places they frequent / chicas they bang without sharing details.

The Cat

Hoof Hunter
10-15-07, 01:12
Hoof Hunter,

It is so nice to see one of our senior members completely disregarding the spirit of this board. This board is about sharing information, last time I checked. My opinion: Whether or not you decide to share information is completely up to you but if you are not going to share, please do not brag about it.

There are people that post on this board who I consider to be complete assholes but even they have the common sense not to brag about places they frequent / chicas they bang without sharing details.

The Cat

I think you need to read through my post again. WE'VE ALREADY SHARED the appropriate info, many times over. What some choose to do with it, I'm guessing that what we're seeing and people are experiencing.

Spirit of the board??? Get real. One of our best local resources has finally drawn the line at helping out new mongers with his contacts. Guess why? It is not I, nor he, who've disregarded the "spirit of the board." For the record, I commend him.

Not sure where you think you are, but this board is ALL about bragging about exploits, from the posts, to the full reports, to the photos. I've just chosen not to "brag" about any of the off-the-radar places that I know online anymore. Why should that bother you? There's already plenty of other available info.

TheCatsMeow88
10-15-07, 04:25
LOL, exactly!!! No way in hell will I submit new places to these boards, and rightfully so.

Hoof Hunter,

Read the words you wrote. How would you interpret them? Be honest.

I was making one point and one point only. If you know "new places" and no way in hell plan to submit them to these boards, as you put it, then no need to mention it in the first place. Don't tease us with phrases like "Luckily, I've found the other versions of heaven on earth" and then fail to follow through with details, even when prompted by other members to do so. That is all.



I've just chosen not to "brag" about any of the off-the-radar places that I know online anymore. Why should that bother you? There's already plenty of other available info.

Believe me, it does not bother me at all. The places you frequent are of zero interest to me. In fact, if you named them, I would go out of my way to avoid them. There are plenty of places I know to avoid, just by reading the reports posted on these boards. I am pretty confident that your "off-the-radar" places would fall into that category. What bothers me are the veiled comments that suggest "I know something you don't and am not going to share it with other board members". What are you adding to the discussion / achieving with this approach? That is what bothers me.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
10-16-07, 00:46
I could (not) care less what you think or if you agree. I said what I said and I'm not explaining myself further.

Hoof Hunter,

Why does your reply not surprise me?

You know, you could have handled this many different ways but you chose to resort to name-calling and personal attacks. That tells me all I need to know about you. You are certainly entitled to your opinion; which, if I understand correctly, is that I am acting like a "bee--yotch". However, since personal attacks and name-calling are not my style, I will refrain from posting, in a public forum, what I really think of you.

Oh and by the way, it was really, really tough but I somehow managed to get over it. What a joke.

I have also said what I have to say- made my point, whether you choose to acknowledge it or not- and am not going to waste any more time on this. In your words, I am "moving on".

Take care and have a nice day.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
10-16-07, 18:52
but if you are in country you should be aware that this Sat is Ley Seca and Sunday all business is shut down till 6pm. In addition while we are not allowed on the street, guys on tourist Visas will be allowed to travel around once the census takers have interviewed you in your hotel,apartment,etc.

On the street you will be required to present your passport and the form stating you have been censed!

Most people will be doing the private party thing Sat night as we do not have to be in our houses till 8am. Besides sales,consumption of booze sat night is prohibited.

LB

Lima Busy,

I am not in town but how does this affect the chica situation? Will chicas be working? Does it mean that you cannot take chicas back to your hotel room on Saturday/Sunday? Will the censors frown on chicas caught in hotel rooms with foreigners? Will Tequila Rocks be closed for the night? Say it ain't so!

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
10-17-07, 23:47
Tungurahua,

Not my style of mongering but a great and entertaining report nonetheless. I enjoy your writing style.

I just figured out how to use "Reports of Distinction" and added your report.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
10-24-07, 19:16
I was in Lima for one night 2+ months ago and after extensive research in this board, I came to the conclusion that Tequila Rock would be my best option. I have to say I was a little disapointed, the quality of the the ladies was not that great. Most of them were below average looking. I had a few drinks, watched the scene for an hour and went back to my hotel alone.

I will be going back to Lima next week and this time I really want to bring some one back to my hotel. So I need your help and suggestions.

I only have one night and no time to look for a bargain, so I am willing to pay a premium. I think in Lima a premium is $100 or more. This is not a problem.

I like take out, I don't like incalls or rooms in clubs. Spanish is my native languge, so communication will not be a problem.

So if you only have one night in Lima and budget is not a problem, where are the best quality take out ladies in Lima?

Pistolaso,

I agree with Polvo regarding the Suites de Barranco. I have never been to Emmanuelles so cannot comment on the quality/experience/price. However, since you are interested in quality, you should definitely consider the Suites; they have some of the best quality in Lima (7s-9s). Lucero is one of my favorites.

If you go this route you will, however, pay more than USD 100 (more like USD 120-150) for a couple of hours.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
10-24-07, 23:29
Definetely ¨Suites¨ with Emanuelles a close second, but if you are staying in Miraflores ¨Suites¨is around the block from the Marriott and you won´t waste time in a cab. You can hit Suites after 12pm wheras Tequilas is best after 1-2am.

LB


LB,

You certainly know Lima better than I do but I do not recall the Suites being around the block from the Marriott. I remember it being more like a 5-10 minute cab ride. I ended up near a gas station and the entrance to the Suites was anything but clearly marked. Maybe I was taken for a ride by my cabbie but I do not think so.

The Cat

Polvo
10-25-07, 01:11
....I do but I do not recall the Suites being around the block from the Marriott. I remember it being more like a 5-10 minute cab ride......and the entrance to the Suites was anything but clearly marked. .....
From Marriott, go to Reducto, round the curve to the roundabout (or suicide oval) and up Av. Republic de Panama to #250. Look for the "classic-looking" three ball lights and the white garage door.

About 7 minutes in a cab. Everything is relative!! :-)

Suerte

Polvo

Tungurahua
10-26-07, 21:02
Artisttyp: No, no sex sessions. Happy with groping and smooching, it's never occured to me to ask. But now that you've planted the idea expect the b*tch to breed puppies in my brain. To sex these sweet things I'd slap down 50 soles no problemo. Tis only 1577 pennies.

I guess it should be noted for the board the girls in the Colmena stripclubs walk around in g-strings, lingerie and other skimpy, see-through garments. Unlike T-Rocks. It makes for far better viewing time while sipping on a beers.

As for Rio that place has fucked me up. These days a portion of my brain is occupied thinking about hot chocolates and eating pussies. Christ, what's next? Negotiating for shit-sloppy anal?! Rio's pussies may be cheap in centro and VM but the rest of Rio is where the tab mushrooms. You seem to regularly have a $100 per day budget, over and above your room, so it should be no problem. But truthfully, Rio itself is more epic than its selection of women. Providing you take care while there it is impossible to be disappointed with the experience.

Elberto: While the idea of bare-backing an 8teen year young petite appeals, yes I agree, the impregnating part is not very appealing. I could pull out the first few times and say "Ooops, next time darling ..." but I think she might catch on soon enough.

TheCatsMeow88: 50 soles entry?! Bite your tongue, lad! These are the cheap bars of central Lima, built for and filled by local boys. This is a low-end environment. It is 1 sole entry fee. Most of the locals don't even buy a 5 soles large beer. They stand around looking at 1-song striptease acts, hoping to touch a piece of ass.

To spend time with a girl you can buy her a drink, ranging from 10 to 20 soles. Depending on the club this price can also scoot you into a private, curtained booth. Lighting here can range from dark to pitch black.

Whether a girl is open for sex is between her and you. Artisttyp was wondering. David_33 says these clubs are primarily lonely-hearts clubs where single guys come to chat with a girl. I think most girls are of this mould, non-sexual, non-pros but a little more daring than your average conservative Peru girl.

I am frequenting here is because it is cheap, the chicas are more to my liking, and it is a place filled with potential girlfriend experiences. You could say I am shopping for an ideal to court outside of the clubs and bars. Whether it comes to pass we shall see.

1577 pennies / 1667 pennies: depends on the dollar. ;-)

TheCatsMeow88
10-26-07, 21:10
Artisttyp: No, no sessions. Happy with groping and smooching it's never occured to me to ask. But now that you've planted the idea expect the b*tch to breed puppies in my brain like no tomorrow. To sex these sweet things I'd slap down 50 soles no problemo. Tis only 1577 pennies.
Tung,

In Hong Kong's go-go bars, you can get a top-drawer blow-job from a sweet, young filipino (Think Asian Little Lupe) for a reasonably priced ladies drink. I am also curious as to whether these kinds of services are on offer at Palmeras and the other strip bars you frequent on Avenida Colmena. It might make for an interesting night out with the boys and something else to do on a slow night.

For those of us who do not live in Lima, where is Av. Colmena and what kind of experience are we talking about? High-end, low-end, somewhere in between?



I guess it should be noted for the board (that) the girls in the Colmena stripclubs walk around in g-strings, lingerie and other skimpy, see-through garments. Unlike T-Rocks. It makes for far better viewing time while sipping on a beer.
That justifies a visit right there. And all for a mere 50 soles (More like 1,667 pennis due to the declining dollar) admission price?

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
10-26-07, 21:43
1577 pennies / 1667 pennies: depends on the dollar. ;-)


Tung,

Of course it depends on the dollar but in order for 50 soles to be worth USD 15.77, you would have to be exchanging at 1 USD = 3.17 soles. If anyone is getting better than 3 soles to the dollar in the current environment, I would sure like to know about it. Therefore, 50 soles is costing at least USD 16.67 these days. No debate here, I hope.

BTW, where is Av. Colmena? What part of town?

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
10-26-07, 21:49
You could say I am shopping for an ideal (girl?) to court outside of the clubs and bars. Whether it comes to pass we shall see.


Tung,

You must be very selective. I meet at least one of those every time I travel down to Lima and sometimes I am there for only a day!

Case in point. On my last trip, I ran into this 19yo student on Avenida Larco. She was 5'7" with a cute face and nice rack. She was waiting for a "friend". I later learned that the friend was a European she had been chatting with on MSN. I got her e-mail ID and am positioning to hook up with her on my next trip. Girls like that are there for the taking all over Lima, so I do not buy that you are searching for the ideal girl and have not been able to find her.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
10-26-07, 22:03
Dollar hint: I eat my beavers smothered in maple syrup.
S*** man, why didn't you say so? You have to assume that on this board that if someone says dollars it is taken to mean USD (and not Canadian Dollars, Australian Dollars or Hong Kong Dollars) unless otherwise stated.

TheCatsMeow88
10-26-07, 22:09
I'd like to know if you've done sessions in any of the colmena clubs ? Were you offered sex ? I was too cheap to pay the 50 soles.

I had a feeling you were going to feel this way about lima. I need to go to rio if you think it trumps lima with budget offerings.

Tung,

Yes we are getting mixed up. I read this response from Artisttyp and assumed that 50 soles referred to the entrance fee. I now understand that it refers to the cost of sex. If that is what is costs to get it on with a 7-7.5-8 chica, I am going to have to look into this as it only begs the question: "What it would cost to take her back to the hotel, dress her in sexy lingerie, take a few photos and bang her for the night?"

Is take out on the cards, do you think? I To be honest I am a little confused. At first, I thought these were straight strip clubs / go-go bars but now it sounds like they are more like singles bars with strip shows. I must be a little slow here.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
10-26-07, 22:31
Artisttyp has explained the Colmena club setups already on his previous posts while here in Lima. I am following in his footsteps. I quote him: The only question he had was trying to confirm IF it was possible to sex a chica in one of these clubs, and for what price, as he never got around to it. I have yet to address the issue. These places are not brothels -- they are stripclubs. Sex is not on the menu. But, unofficially, Artisttyp and I question if an under-the-table transaction can be negotiated. Clear as mud?

Tung,

It helps but what is confusing me now is the characterization of these locales as lonely hearts clubs / singles bars. Most non-pro, single girls looking for a boyfriend would not, in my opinion, pursue their search by going to one of these bars, taking their bras off and dancing topless on the stage. I may be totally wrong, of course, and this may be completely acceptable behavior in Central Lima. In other words, are we talking strip bars/go-go bars with paid performers, topless pick-up joints for risque regular girls, or some combination of the two? If it is either ii) or iii) that would be a novel idea and who do I contact to purchase a franchise?

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
10-26-07, 22:48
As for the issue of what dollar, you are right, it was never an issue ... until recently. 647358

Tung,

Yes, but let's not confuse exchange rate with size of economy or standard of living. If that were the criterion, the UK would be the richest country in the world and its citizens would have the highest standards of living, since one UKP buys more than one of any other currency out there.

Along the same lines, should we not quote everything in UKP if we used the logic outlined in the post you linked to?

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
10-27-07, 00:08
If you dont see yourself riding combis with the locals or would never consider going to $6 brothels in la victoria etc. these places arent for you.
Riding combis is one thing; I have done that more than once. Frequenting, six dollar (US not Canadian, mind you. It would be $5.82 Canadian) brothels is quite another.


I made the mistake of getting involved with someone that wasnt right for me and now I cant shake her off...even worse she knows someone at the maria luisa so next time I book I dont know how I will avoid her.
Use an assumed name when you make the booking and do not confess your real identity until you pay the bill. That should buy you a few days at least.


It sounds like you already have a decent game plan for lima.
My game plan is not much more than common sense really. Use the internet sites to line up some chicas so that you are not caught empty-handed when you arrive. If I went down for 2 weeks (or longer) at a time, I could afford a day or two to get my bearings and make contacts. However, my visits usually last for no more than a week and I cannot afford to waste 2 days at the front of the trip. Hell, I am so anxious to get started I have had chicas meet me at the airport on the last two visits.

I do like your approach, though, and so I am going to schedule more time for discovery and serendipitous meetings for my next trip. The only problem with that is that you never meet that diamond in the rough when you are alone and looking for her. She always seems to comes across your path when you are with someone else and cannot make the contact.


If you dont see yourself riding combis with the locals or would never consider going to $6 brothels in la victoria etc. these places arent for you.
No doubt you are right and I trust your judgement. That said, I still like the idea of taking a 7.5-8.5 stripper from one of these low-end places back for the night. Contrary to what some might think, I can and do appreciate that some of those uncut diamonds that I am constantly searching for can be found in 1 sole strip bars. I am guessing that it would not take much money to make one of these girls feel like a princess. And once she feels like a princess she will give you the world.


* Also let me add that yes lima is filled with gfe possibilites but dont think these girls dont know the deal. It all depends on who you meet and how you feel about it.
They know the deal and so do I. I would be naive if I thought that an attractive 21yo student is dating a mid-forties guy because of my handsome looks. It is just a game and in the end it is ALL about making sure that you get your fair share of pussy. That's all.

I was going to finish the post right there but since you have got me going, let me finish the thought. Unfortunately, some of these girls, especially the sweet, non-pro student types that I seem to consistently attract, either do not realize it is a game or do not know how to play the game and end up falling in love (or at least thinking they are in love). I have had this happen more than once in Lima already. I am a realist and understand that this does not happen because I am special or anything. It happens because I treat chicas with a modicum of respect (Only the cute ones; I ignore the rest), which is nonetheless in such contrast to the crap treatment that they get from Peruvian men (Who appear to be clueless for the most part) that they cannot help themselves.

Once they fall for you the next thing that happens is that they want a monogamous relationship. That is when I have to break hearts and walk away. I am experienced enough to know that if I committed to that, I would be lying to her and to myself. Sooner or later, I will get the urge to screw someone else. It is just how God intended things to be. Chris Rock was on a radio show a couple of years back and he was talking about Halle Berry. He said something along these lines: No matter how beautiful Halle Berry is, you know that there is some guy out there who is tired of fucking her and is looking to nail some other piece of ass. That, pretty much, sums up the male psyche for me. Always looking for something better or even just something different.

I get nothing out of hooking up with a pro for whom you are the 3rd, 4th or 5th customer of the day. I always feel like shit after that kind of encounter even if the sex was good. In order to get the meaningful experiences, I have to find the right non-pro type and get somewhat emotionally involved. That inevitably leads to someone getting hurt in the end and that someone is rarely me. In conclusion, life is really, really fucked up and I am a selfish motherfucker but it is what it is.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
10-29-07, 15:54
I went down there via combi and went in these places, pretty much all of them with fellow monger Vaugn. I however can't remember the names as one place blurred into the other. There were two bars that were much better than the rest.

As a curiosity it was fun..but that was it. What you mostly get is a dimly lit, dirty bar (a few with bad odors) with a mixed bag of women and gropy peruvian guys that wan't to buddy up to you. The 20 sol drink for her includes a rather energetic lap dance and I never made it upstairs. My travel mate did and he was down pretty quick sin 50 soles but with a phone number. Walking around the area at night is fairly safe due to the police presence but the locals look at you like a starving man looks at a ham sandwich. To each their own...getting to know artistatyp a bit (shout out buddy!) while he was there, I understand why he would like this type thing..but it sure isn't for everyone. I would rather go to a disco and pick up the local girls which to me is easier and better.

WestFLA,

The debate rages on and nice to hear an independent perspective. I was thinking of visiting out of sheer curiosity and suspect that I would walk out feeling just as you described.

Regarding your last sentence: Does better mean better experience or better talent?

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
10-30-07, 06:11
I had a good time when Tung I hit 4 or 5 different strip clubs in Centro de Lima, but at the end of the night I mentioned that I have seen more nudity at Tequilas than we saw in all the strip clubs combined.

We did find one club that offered more, but for the most part the deal was to sit around and watch girls in lingerie and maybe buy some time in the semi-private booths in back where you can feel her up but no more.

Some of the girls are really sexy and got me worked up, but if you want satisfaction you need to go somewhere else.

Elberto,

My theory- and this, admittedly, from a guy who has never walked into one of these places- is to locate the chicas that Tung was drooling about (i.e. the 18yo, 7.0-7.5-8.0 chicas) and walk out of the club with their cell numbers and a commitment to see them the next day or on their day off. Anything other plan of attack seems pretty pointless to me.

The Cat

Elberto
10-30-07, 06:28
walk out of the club with their cell numbers and a commitment to see them the next day or on their day off

I only asked one girl if she wanted to meet outside the club but she just laughed. I imagine some might be interested but really it gets down to actually expending effort to hook up with strippers vs. getting picked up by regular girls.

If you walk 5 minutes away from Parque Kennedy and say 'hi' to the girls who stare at you you are just as likely to end up in bed as setting up a date with a stripper.

TheCatsMeow88
10-30-07, 06:36
I only asked one girl if she wanted to meet outside the club but she just laughed. I imagine some might be interested but really it gets down to actually expending effort to hook up with strippers vs. getting picked up by regular girls.

If you walk 5 minutes away from Parque Kennedy and say 'hi' to the girls who stare at you you are just as likely to end up in bed as setting up a date with a stripper.

Elberto,

Absolutely no argument and there is a good chance that I would get blown off by all of the sexy strippers. After all, they are the ones most likely to have boyfriends and sugar daddys. Rejection is part and parcel of the "approaching attractive women" gig. Not every woman in Lima is ready to jump into bed with a stranger, even if he is a gringo. I have been blown off many times in Lima, especially by model and anfitriona types. They are the hardest to get. Not impossible, just harder. That does not stop me though.

My point is, that is how I would play the sleazy strip bars. I would be looking to get the number of the sexiest stripper in there. If it works, it works. If it doesn't, then I would walk 5 minutes away from Parque Kennedy, as you say. BTW, which direction do you walk?

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
10-30-07, 06:45
I hsave a ticket to Lima in the spring. Several frends told me that the chicas are fabulous and the prices
are great and I have't lived until I check out Peru. So here I come.

I have RTFF for awhile now. I'm not only confused, but I am beginning to wonder if I made a mistake.

It seems like every PFP option gets trashed here by someone or other.

Tequila Rocks is an expensive ripoff for stupid gringos. The other strip clubs are a slightly less expensive,
but still a ripoff, and no one seems to know if there is even sex involved or not.

I take it that must mean "not."

There are MPs and brothels that get varying reviews, but nothing emerges as a favorite. As usual, no one
seems to be a fan of streetwalkers.

What is a poor boy to do?

Please allow me it describe what I am looking for and what I don't really like:

Empty sex with a hot girl is certainly okay every now and then, but I much prefer a "simulated relationship."

I want to spend some "quality" time (an hour or two) getting to know a chica to make sure that the
chemistry is right.

I like the illusion of reality.

Give me some romance. That thing called "GFE."

If that concept has been discussed in these threads, I've missed it.

I want a chica who pretends like she just won the lottery when she gets to spend the night with me.

I have never failed to find it in the other Latin American countries I have visited. Is it asking for too
much in Peru?

Obviously, I can't get to know a chica from a three second twirl in a lineup at an MP or from a photo on an
escort service web site. Thus, I hate to commit any of my mongering time or money to buying a pig in a poke.

I am not really patient enough to work the regular girls, again investing my time and money into someone
with no idea of whether she "will" or whether she "won't."

So where does one go in Lima to have a nice pleasant conversation with an attractive pro over drinks
or coffee, and maybe some dancing and romancing?

Then if everything is right, one can decide to take her back to ones room for a reasonable price. Or at least
get her phone number to arrange a rendezvous the next day.

Surely, such a place must exist somewhere in this city of 8 million people?

Thanks in advance for any and all advice.

DB

DB,

This merits a serious response but it is late and so I will save my thoughts for tomorrow.

My message for now is: Do not despair. It will all work out right in the end. It always does in Lima.

Some questions. How long will you be there and what part of town are you staying in? Also, are you well-heeled (As LB puts it) or budget-oriented? Finally, what is you age range as that will affect what places will work for you.

The Cat

Member #3437
10-30-07, 14:48
WestFLA,

The debate rages on and nice to hear an independent perspective. I was thinking of visiting out of sheer curiosity and suspect that I would walk out feeling just as you described.

Regarding your last sentence: Does better mean better experience or better talent?

The Cat

For me it means both. I really am not into dirty *****s...but hey, I understand those that are and will occasionally take one for the team. Trocerdera comes to mind....

Elberto
10-30-07, 15:49
BTW, which direction do you walk?

I like to walk down to the Parque del Amor and along the Malecon and other nearby streets towards San Isidro for older (30+), more upscale women who are into fitness.

For regular women Parque Kennedy is good, from the weekend dancing circle to the special events they have often. Everyone is standing around hoping for something interesting to happen.

For younger women I like the area a few blocks on either side of Arequipa from Pardo up to the Plaza Vea (or Wong, I forget.), but I went to Lince last weekend so the boundary is growing.

Barranco is farther away but just a few blocks away from the Bierhaus I have had people actually stop and stare because (clean) gringos are rare there.

Of course, having the right mindset is key to getting these girls. Eye contact like a laser makes them blush and stumble. It is not unusual to have them say 'hello' out loud when this happens. Time to get to work.

I shared a tip with Tung the other night, where if you think EVERY girl is available soon you notice opportunities you previously overlooked. I know someday I will get a PM from Tung saying "Thanks for the tip E, it's gotten me lots of Lays." Brother, you said a mouthful.

TheCatsMeow88
10-30-07, 19:46
As a sidenote, I got my credit card statement today and someone in Peru charged two Lan plane tickets against my card along with Expedia fees and some other travel related charges. Of course I don't have to pay and have notified my cc company, and I only used my credit card maybe 5 times in Peru...mostly at the pharmacy and at the airport (Lan).

As wisely noted by Doc Bill and confirmed by WestFLA's experience:

Only use your credit card to pay the hotel bill, at ATMs, and at upscale restaurants like the Astrid y Gaston. No exceptions, not even at pharmacies to replenish your depleted condom supply.

Now that I think about it, buying airline tickets at the airport should be ok too. I am not sure I would trust travel agents, though.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
10-30-07, 22:42
Of course, having the right mindset is key to getting these girls. Eye contact like a laser makes them blush and stumble. It is not unusual to have them say 'hello' out loud when this happens. Time to get to work.

Elberto,

I understand and can relate.

"The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."

If you cannot handle, or fear, rejection you are doing yourself a huge disservice and are not going to be successful. As you state: mindest is key. You have to act and look confident. You have to know that you are going to get her. And you have to not take it personally when you don't. You have to put the failures aside and move on to the next one.

The only calibre of girls that I have not been able to consistently crack with this approach are model and anfitriona types. They are the only ones that are prepared to blow me off (I guess thay are used to being approached and have had plenty of practice at politely saying "get lost"). It is quite a shock when it happens, actually, because I am not used to this type of treatment in Lima. This is more like sexprison USA behavior, not Lima behavior.

I am convinced that if I spent more time in Lima, I would break into their circle also. But it takes time and cash.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
10-31-07, 01:34
please allow me it describe what i am looking for and what i don't really like:

empty sex with a hot girl is certainly okay every now and then, but i much prefer a "simulated relationship."

i want to spend some "quality" time (an hour or two) getting to know a chica to make sure that the chemistry is right.

i like the illusion of reality.

give me some romance. that thing called "gfe."

if that concept has been discussed in these threads, i've missed it.

i want a chica who pretends like she just won the lottery when she gets to spend the night with me.

i have never failed to find it in the other latin american countries i have visited. is it asking for too much in peru?

obviously, i can't get to know a chica from a three second twirl in a lineup at an mp or from a photo on an escort service web site. thus, i hate to commit any of my mongering time or money to buying a pig in a poke.

i am not really patient enough to work the regular girls, again investing my time and money into someone with no idea of whether she "will" or whether she "won't."

so where does one go in lima to have a nice pleasant conversation with an attractive pro over drinks or coffee, and maybe some dancing and romancing?

then if everything is right, one can decide to take her back to ones room for a reasonable price. or at least get her phone number to arrange a rendezvous the next day.

surely, such a place must exist somewhere in this city of 8 million people?

thanks in advance for any and all advice.

db
db,

in my opinion, the first thing you need to do is re-think the idea that "i am not really patient enough to work the regular girls".

one of the main differences between lima and most of the other places i have visited (jakarta was like this too) is that regular girls are accessible. yes, they do require more work than than p4p girls but they are readily accessible. if you are ready to put in that little bit of extra effort you do not have to strive for a "simulated relationship". you get the real deal, with real gfe and real feelings.

if you are adamant that you want to only use p4p girls then i would have to point you to a website like www.nenaperus.com. it is not really what you are looking for based on your description but it is a source of p4p girls at reasonable price points. as you have gathered, conventional wisdom states that tequila rocks is over priced and poor value for money, though chicagodancer claims that regular girls are to be found there also. in my opinion, that is real hit-and-miss. if it is regular girls you are after there are far better options.

there has been alot written on this board about budget p4p encounters by people who know far more about the subject than i do, or ever will. since you are, at times, budget-minded, i encourage you to read the posts written by artisttyp, tung and others who work that scene. it is not my scene but they deserve credit for documenting it. maybe there is something in there for you.

for massages with happy endings you should look into the following locations. they have all been written about on this board at one time or another. personally, i have only ever visited ryv and can recommend it:

banos turcos relax y vida
carlos villaran #121
santa catalina – 265-5370
open daily from 10:00 am until 10:00 pm

ely spa

banos turcos la marina
avenida la marina #2865
san miguel – 578-2476

if you are willing to work regular girls, your options increase dramatically. just read what elberto wrote a few posts back about where to pick them up in miraflores. then there all of the following locales:

larco mar

huaringa bar – plaza bolognesi, miraflores

café dell’ mar – avenida santa cruz 850, miraflores
+51 1 221 5218

gothica disco - miraflores
traffic disco – miraflores
pub cubana – calle san martin
café la favorita – avenida larco

disco ethera – calle ucello 220, san borja
una cuadra de javier prado con aviacion espalda de plaza vea

bierhaus in barranco

about a year ago, world travel 69 developed a comprehensive list and it can still be found in the "lima lists" thread (545538).

my only caution is that i felt uncomfortable at some of these places due to the wide age gap between myself and other patrons (i am in my late forties). this was particularly true at the trendy discos in larco mar (gothica and traffic, i think they are named). it is a funny thing, but approaching a 22yo walking alone- or even in a small group- in the mall or on the street is one thing, approaching her in a night club, in full view of a room full of her judgemental peers is quite another. perhaps so many young eyes make me self conscious. don't know why but there you go.

good luck

the cat

TheCatsMeow88
11-01-07, 14:55
Eclypse:

I went there Sunday night (the day of the senso) and there were plenty of girls and prices were cheaper though the quality of the girls was lower than la suite I found a gem that gave me a ride for my money. Friendly and went for everything.

Emmanuelle:

This one is the best one I have seen this trip in Lima.

Plenty of girls and eventhough prices are similar to la suite the quality of this place is better. I took a girl from there that rocked my world that night. Again expensive but well worth it.

www.bellasvip.net I called and asked for a girl I liked and of course they sent a different girl so I told her to go back and tell them that bait and switch is not ok.
Joder2,

Thanks for posting this interesting report. I have two questions.

1) Where is Eclypse? I was not aware of this club until you mentioned it. It may have been talked about before but I just missed it.

2) I was curious about the girls on bellasvip. I understand that they pulled a bait and switch but was the girl they sent you of comparable quality to the ones on the website (and just not to your liking) or was she clearly below in terms of looks/body?

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
11-01-07, 14:58
If you are adamant that you want to only use P4P girls then I would have to point you to a website like www.nenaperus.com.

Typo. I meant to type www.nenasperu.com

Civid,

You may want to check this one out also. I have not personally used them and cannot, therefore, guarantee that they will not bait and switch. I get the feeling they are legit, for some reason.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
11-01-07, 15:44
Hi,

I wanted to let you know about my trip to Lima.

I believe the place is buzzing and the economy is getting better and better everyday, therefore expect prices to rise with the economy.
There is a depressing thought, right there.

Polvo
11-01-07, 19:58
.....1) Where is Eclypse? I was not aware of this club until you mentioned it. It may have been talked about before but I just missed it.....
Cat:

Augusto Tamayo 158 a Espaldas C. Comercial San Isidro Tel. 440 - 4913

http://www.eclipseclubperu.com/home.htm

This is the club that all the taxi drivers at the end of Calle Pizza are pushing to punters. (I know, you are usually rushing past them with some model on your arm....)

Suerte!

Polvo

TheCatsMeow88
11-01-07, 20:12
Cat:

Augusto Tamayo 158 a Espaldas C. Comercial San Isidro Tel. 440 - 4913

http://www.eclipseclubperu.com/home.htm

This is the club that all the taxi drivers at the end of Calle Pizza are pushing to punters. (I know, you are usually rushing past them with some model on your arm....)

Suerte!

Polvo
Polvo,

While it is certainly true that I ignore the taxi drivers and guys thrusting leaflets in your hand at the end of Calle Pizza; I only wish it were for the reason you described.

Thanks for adding to the (my) knowledge base. Just another club that I will probably not get to unless I spend an extended period of time in Lima!

I think LB is the one with the connections into the model world (Like the Mayor of Callao, for example? Does that ring a bell?). He just keeps it to himself, that is all!

The Cat

Elberto
11-01-07, 20:21
I think LB is the one with the connections into the model world

LB among others.

TheCatsMeow88
11-01-07, 20:40
LB among others.
Elberto,

Shit, man; why didn't you say so!!?! We need to hook up next time I am in town so that you can show me the ropes!

I have gotten to the point where I can reel-in anfitriona-quality girls pretty consistently (see what I mean?) but would like to graduate to the next level and shoot for big game. I just need someone to point the rifle in the right direction. That's all!

The Cat

PS Contact details will not be forthcoming so please do not ask.

Lima Busy
11-02-07, 02:24
I think LB is the one with the connections into the model world (Like the Mayor of Callao, for example? Does that ring a bell?). He just keeps it to himself, that is all!

The Cat
Cat,
Your too kind! Actually he was made Gov´nor and no longer takes my calls. Now I have to go to ¨reef¨,¨Hawaiian tropic¨and the occasional ¨Miss Polvos Azules contests like everyone else!

Actually I am supposed to shoot a soft drink commercial out in the desert this weekend, but have not committed yet.

LB

Joder2
11-02-07, 18:15
1) You already got an answer.

2) The girl they sent was not even close to what you see on the website.


Joder2,

Thanks for posting this interesting report. I have two questions.

1) Where is Eclypse? I was not aware of this club until you mentioned it. It may have been talked about before but I just missed it.

2) I was curious about the girls on bellasvip. I understand that they pulled a bait and switch but was the girl they sent you of comparable quality to the ones on the website (and just not to your liking) or was she clearly below in terms of looks/body?

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
11-03-07, 04:48
You should have received a blue business card when you went. Hold on to this and you will not pay a cover charge in the future. Also if this was Marina, see my last post in the hotel section regarding dating SB girls. Glad you enjoyed Lima. You may also enjoy club 69.

Regarding internet site girls. PDP is generally regarded as wysiwyg, but it can be very difficult to contact them or getting them to come to you and if they are busy may send a replacement.

I have no experience in this but LB tells me that it is best and less expensive if you go to the girls apartment. Also try reading some of the reviews of the girls you are interested in on Peru tops before you make your list.

Rosita
Rosita,

My apologies for the catty post in the hotels thread. I did no realize you had changed your handle.

The Cat (with his tail between his legs?)

TheCatsMeow88
11-05-07, 22:16
i have been feeling under the weather lately and developed a chest cold i can't kick. i decided to go to a bano turco and studied perutops for one near miraflores with good facilities. i chose king spa on av. arequipa in lince.

i went early in the morning and only 2 other guys were there. the facilities were clean and the saunas good, the jacuzzi just okay, and the showers hot.

i decided to get a massage but didn't expect anything else because i felt ill. there was only one girl when i got upstairs for my massage, angela, originally from iquitos. her description of the services available was worth the trip alone and she is such a good saleswoman i chose more than the basic massage.

after getting me properly relaxed she gave me a fantastic professional-style massage. i used to date a massage therapist so i instantly recognized she knew what she was doing. when the time was up i felt so good i walked the long way home. i highly recommend angela if you visit king spa.

total charge for 3 hours sauna/jacuzzi/shower/massage/drink was 103 soles.

elberto,

what was not clear from your post is whether any additional services were available/offered.

also, how old is angela and what does she look like?

the cat

Elberto
11-06-07, 00:00
Elberto,

What was not clear from your post is whether any additional services were available/offered.

Also, how old is Angela and what does she look like?

The Cat

If I understood her rapid Spanish correctly additional services up to full service were offered. I don't recall exact prices but they didn't seem out of line with what I have read about other BTs.

Angela is likely in her mid to late-20s, dark skin, long dark hair, pretty eyes, friendly smile, big natural boobs, tight and tiny butt. She knows more English than she lets on but is not conversation-level.

TheCatsMeow88
11-06-07, 00:41
Angela is likely in her mid to late-20s, dark skin, long dark hair, pretty eyes, friendly smile, big natural boobs, tight and tiny butt.
Elberto,

Sounds like quite a dish. I think I will check Angela out out on a slow afternoon (If I ever get one!). Thanks for the info.

The Cat

PS Hope you are feeling better.

TheCatsMeow88
11-09-07, 23:52
I am a senior member, mostly in Calif. USA. Here visiting LIMA and want to score on some fine latina pussy. However, I have no idea what is safe, nor where to go. I also need to know how much I should spend. Not looking for an overnighter, just a quick fuck with some GFE maybe. Has to bee cute, not some old, fat bitches.

Please help, dirk

Dirk,

Are you well-heeled or budget-minded? In other words, what is your price range?

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
11-11-07, 05:08
I am king of the 7's in Lima and have had a number of these girls fall for me. But honestly I haven't had a lot of success with the young hotties, the 8's and up, modelita faces with a bit more european look to them featuring nice medium sized tits and round asses, ones I could fall for deeply myself and actually desire a serious relationship with. These women are somewhat scare specimens and have a lot of men to pick and choose from.
Little King,

I respect your honesty and understand where you are coming from. I feel the same way. The anfitrionas and other pretty non-P4P girls are accessible with a little game and a little cash in your pocket. The model types are difficult to locate- due to their scarcity- and even harder to bed. They are used to saying no, I guess. Some of them have blown me off with "I have a boyfriend", which may even be true but would never stop a truly motivated chica.

Like everything, this nut can be cracked but it takes more time and cash than I have been willing to splash thus far. Not to say that won't change at some point in the future.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
11-13-07, 05:36
Dirk,

Please don't take this as me dogging you because we are on the same side and I am only offering constructive criticism.

Do you expect a girl to respect you after you throw around a bunch of cash? Women are the same in Lima as the US in the fact that if they think you are a sucker they will play you like a sucker.

If you are going to treat a chick like that you do it AFTER you have fucked her pussy raw and halfway drowned her in your jizz.

Your first step should be to let her know in no uncertain terms that she better give you a first class fuck before you are going to open your wallet. There are 4 million chicks in Lima who would love a shot at your gringo dick and you had better believe she knows this. She has no leverage and she knows this too.
Damn dude, this is Latin America.

Don't be an asshole or condescending or even crude or rude, but most certainly be an alpha male. Let her know what you want and what you expect. If she thinks she can play you let her know who has all the leverage and you will not give in. Laugh in her face and if that doesn't work then leave.

An amiga of mine has hooked up her amiga with possibly the biggest gringo asshole in Lima and her friend feels like she won the lottery. If she is happy to have landed an asshole gringo imagine how happy a local girl will be to hook up with a nice gringo.

Seriously, the ball is in your court.
Dirk,

This is very sound advice. I would take it seriously.

I would add:

"...Laugh in her face and if that doesn't work then leave. There are plenty of other cute girls who will play by your rules and would be honored to do so."

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
11-14-07, 17:47
Having only been here 3 days, I'm certainly not claiming 'expert' status, just questioning the timeliness of the data. Do the pizza street ho's only come out around midnight or later?
Straddler,

I do not claim "Lima expert" status either but I can authoritatively tell you that you should not waste your time or money with the Calle Pizza street walkers. They usually hang out at the Parque Kennedy end of Calle Pizza, at night (11:00pm onwards). The ones I saw rank no higher than a 4 or 5. I made the mistake of using them not once but twice. I learned my lesson and my advise is that though the price might be tempting, they are to be avoided at all costs.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
11-14-07, 18:47
Prior to my trip, I read every thread on here about Lima.
Straddler,

If this is true, you must also know that you are going about things the wrong way.

Artisttyp is right. Lima can be difficult for first-timers to navigate. I had that problem and so have others that I have spoken with. In fact, on one of my first visits to Lima, I ended up sleeping in a published model's apartment, on her bed, while she slept with her mother in the other room! Yes, that is really her and no, I never did get to bang her.

However, as I have said before on this board, things will work out for you. They always do in Lima once you get with the program.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
11-15-07, 03:05
I agree about Pizza alley and Kennedy Park being pretty dead around midnight. Do you have to stay up until 3 or 4 am to find the fun??
Clodbuster,

More like 3 or 4pm actually. Just approach regular girls and smile. Good things will eventually happen. There you are, I have just let out the secret to cracking Lima.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
11-16-07, 22:38
Collateral2:

The girls are independent. It is against the law in Peru for pimps, although prostitution is legal.

As in all things Peruvian there is no straight answer. Some girls pay an entrance fee, some do not. There is a very high turnover of girls, but usually the regulars pay nothing.

There is no commission on the drinks. Usual rules apply. Never run a tab and never buy an "energy" drink (why do you think it is called "Red Bull"??).

The girls are only protected if you wear a condom.

Suerte!

Polvo
Polvo,

I forgot where I heard this but someone mentioned that the girls are not allowed to work TR until they sleep with the security guys and management. I have no idea whether or not this is true. Can you shed some light on the matter?

The Cat

Polvo
11-16-07, 22:58
Polvo,

I forgot where I heard this but someone mentioned that the girls are not allowed to work TR until they sleep with the security guys and management. I have no idea whether or not this is true. Can you shed some light on the matter? The CatThat was from LB. It would not surprise me, it is Peru - but I do know girls who go there who have not. (And I doubt if sleeping is involved.)

Suerte!

Polvo

TheCatsMeow88
11-17-07, 17:15
I just crawled out of bed with my second freebie from Tequila Rocks. She's still sleeping but she earned the rest.

Visited with a local buddy and his friend visiting from Canada. The local guy split early and his friend and I stayed to enjoy the scene. He had a girl all over him but asked me to brush her off when he went to the washroom, then commented that from the looks she was giving him afterwards that I had done a great job.

After a while there were so many guys around it seemed like a gay bar, but somehow a girl found her way over to me. We talked a bit and after a while she mentioned we should split and go to a nearby disco. I made sure to tell her "only as amigos" and she agreed.

I told her we needed to stop by my apartment for more cash, sat on the couch and talked for a bit, then she told me she wanted to get it on. Nature took over and it was lots of fun for everyone involved.
Elberto,

Good for you. And let this be a lesson for all of us TR bashers.

Well, apparently, ChicagoDancer was right when he said that freebies and non-pros are to be had from Tequila Rocks. You just have to get lucky in the sense of being at the right place at the right time. Not to take anything away from your irresistible charm, disarming charisma and powerful animal magentism of course!

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
11-21-07, 02:34
In fact, on one of my first visits to Lima, I ended up sleeping in a published model's apartment, on her bed, while she slept with her mother in the other room! Yes, that is really her and no, I never did get to bang her.
By sheer coincidence I ran into her again Sunday night in Larco Mar. She still looks great; absolutely dynamite actually. Easily one of the most beautiful Peruvian girls you will ever meet (While her looks last).

Fortunately, she did not remember me. Just as well, as our last encounter was pretty messy (I was not best pleased with sleeping alone on her bed and let her know it in no uncertain terms). She has probably dated/fucked/scammed so many gringos since then that it is all a blur to her.

We exchanged a few words and I immediately realized that she did not remember me. Since I addressed her by her name, I immediately had the upper hand because she had no context. She was in a hurry (To get out of the situation and also probably on her way to fuck some gringo at the Marriot for serious dollars, though this is sheer speculation on my part) so that was the end of that.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
11-21-07, 02:45
Oil here up at the crack of 11:00 am, only because I'm starving.

Sly's party: Great stuff, recommended for all ISG's at least once.

OilCanCanada,

I could not agree with you more. To be experienced at least once and a great way for newbies to make some connections.

I arrived late (Landed at 11:00pm the night of the party and walked into Sly One's penthouse apartment at a little after midnight) and missed a fair amount of action as well as many of the ISG regulars who, apparently, showed up. My assumption is that they had either left or were otherwise engaged.

From what I saw in the short time I was there, it definitely lived up to the SEX PARTY billing. The curtained off fuck room- with 4 couples banging away when I looked in- was a nice touch.

The Cat

PS I can only imagine what the torando gang bang will be like this coming Saturday night. If you are new to town, I would not miss it.

TheCatsMeow88
11-21-07, 02:57
I have only made it to Argentina once and 4 times to Brasil.
I wanted to maby try another place. But I probably end up in Rio again.
I would like to hear what you guys think is the best place for super beautifull girls in Latin America.
Where: Colombia
Why: Lots of girls with nices faces and big tetas, willing to sleep with gringos in the hope of getting a green card out of the deal.

The Cat

PS I am in Santiago right now and the way to go here appears to be in-call massage. I have been here only two days and have done no field work (Business trip with very little free time) so this represents first impressions only.

TheCatsMeow88
11-28-07, 02:19
Today a local buddy of mine was showing me his Hi5 friends and he has some super hot chicks on there.

He pointed out one girl who gives great blowjobs and asked if I wanted to meet her. I said "sure", but asked how likely she was to give me a blowjob. He said she is kind of simple so all I need to do is buy her an ice cream then grab her ass.

We'll see if it happens, but if it does this brings the effort of picking up chicks here to near zero.

Elberto,

I know some great ice cream parlors in Lima so can I meet her next? Is the quality of the blow job proportional to the quality of the ice cream?

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
12-03-07, 04:45
The Lima thread and Peru section of the board remind me of a morgue, all of a sudden. Something is seriously wrong when Nibu calls a truce with LimaBusy and even stops insulting me on his thread.

What is going on guys? Based on the posts, the only exciting thing going on in Lima is Sly One's parties. I know that cannot be right. With temperatures on the rise, jeans must be giving way to short skirts about now and there must be alot more flesh on display these days. It can only be the best of times in Lima. So are you local guys all so busy popping chicas that you have no time to post?

And who is going to post photos from Sly One's lingerie party? It sounds like it was a cracker from what Psychman reported.

Guys, we need to focus here.

The Cat

PS I am stuck sex prison and probably off to Asia soon so no help from me in the forseeable future unless travel plans change.

Captain Napalm
12-04-07, 04:09
PS I am stuck sex prison and probably off to Asia soon so no help from me in the forseeable future unless travel plans change.

I am stuck here too. Trying to save my $$ and coordinate scheduling for my next trip down there.

TheCatsMeow88
12-04-07, 04:30
If there's anyone have a hard time getting around Lima, I have a friend who is willing to chauffeur you around during your stay. Being a taxista, he knows all the spots. I know Lima is pretty easy to get around, provided you know where you're going, but if you feel you need a personal driver, pm me, and I'll give you his contact information.

If this post is out of line, feel free to delete it. Don't want to step on anyone's toes.
Captain Napalm,

It is not out of line, although the only people who have the authority to delete the post are you (for the next 24 hours) and Jackson. Other posters, including myself, have recommended specific taxi drivers in the past without being chastised so I cannot imagine that there will be a problem.

The Cat

Polvo
12-04-07, 06:36
.......So are you local guys all so busy popping chicas that you have no time to post?.....Yessssssssssss

TheCatsMeow88
12-05-07, 01:13
Hi Elberto and the other Peru Experts - I am definetly looking for a non-pro. It is more of a satisfying experience.

Question: How attractive, how young and how slender are these non-pros ? What age difference can one expect ?

Thank you in advance for your reply

WaterBoy
Water Boy,

In response to you questions:

1) Very attractive (7-8 on the 1-10 scale)
2) Middle aged guys can pull 18-23 year olds without any problem
3) Very slender, not many American-type blimps in this country
4) Age difference depends on your age but as I already stated, guys in their 30s, 40 and 50s are pulling 18-23 year olds without too much effort.

The Cat

PS Speaking Spanish helps (alot) and patience is required. Picking up semi-pros is easy but not as easy as walking into Tequila Rocks and walking out with paid company for the night.

TheCatsMeow88
12-05-07, 01:19
Hi Guys,

I am a little surprised that nobody mentioned the reasonably attractive seneora (about 40 yrs) who came alone to last weeks party.

The other youner girls were gob-smacked watching her fuck 4 guys at a time.

She had one guy in her pussy ,one guy in her arse and was hungrily sucking 2 other guys as well.

Well the good news for those of you coming this week.

Is she has just emailed me and said she enjoyed the last party so much she is coming back for seconds or fifths depending on how you look at it.
Or perhaps even eights.

Captain Napalm
12-05-07, 02:46
Captain Napalm,

It is not out of line, although the only people who have the authority to delete the post are you (for the next 24 hours) and Jackson. Other posters, including myself, have recommended specific taxi drivers in the past without being chastised so I cannot imagine that there will be a problem.

The Cat

Thanks, different boards have different rules. Easy to get confused sometimes.

TheCatsMeow88
12-05-07, 05:22
Your best bet is to go shopping online first. Virtually every girl in Peru has a myspace or hi5 page. This way you will get a feel for the typical body types and looks you will encounter. Generally the Latina model types will only be found in the popular at the moment clubs and an old gringo will not have much success there.

Age is not a problem if you look good and lie well. Most girls prefer a young guy to hook up with and older guys for a serious relationship. My wife who is 30 years younger then myself would never have considered me, had she met me on the street. This is the obvious advantage of the internet, where you can pre-qualify each other without the language barrier. Older women late 30´s-40´s will be much more likely to hook up after a date or two.

Lima is the place to find a beautiful young girlfriend but unless you have friends and invites to their parties, hooking up is for the young guys, whose #´s are increasing rapidly here in Miraflores.
LB,

I have all kinds of opinions on this which I will not get into here. I do want to make a few points though.

1. I agree with you that model and actress types are the hardest fish to catch and have commented as such many times on this board. This is true in any country as they are the most sought after and have their pick of offers. However, in Lima it is relatively easy for middle-aged farts like me to hook up with anfitriona types who are just one notch below model material.

2. I do not agree with you that middle-aged gringos would have no success in pulling models in their natural habitat. My theory is that money talks. Dress well, pop open a couple of bottles of champagne and good things will happen. If models are attracted to anything it is money. Of course, this requires a greater commitment- in time and money- than most sex-tourist gringos are willing to put in. But that is how to go about snaring a model quality chica anywhere and why should Lima be any different?

3. Finally, I have mixed feelings about internet sites. They can be invaluable to line up chicas for trips, as I have done in the past. On the other hand, some of them are a monumental waste of time. I stopped my cybercupido.com membership earlier this year because I could no longer justify the effort/reward ratio.

My opinion is that if you live in Lima, your time is far better spent in clubs, bars and just walking around like Elberto does to meet girls. In other words, build a "real" network rather than a "virtual" one. If you do not live in Lima then, as you say, internet sites can give you a good idea of what to expect. If you are prepared to invest enough time in them, they can even provide you with a few contacts prior to your trip so that you can hit the ground running. And I speak from experience on this one.

Just my thoughts

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
12-05-07, 05:45
You also might want to specify if he speaks English or not and what area he works out of. For example currently the most popular driver in Miraflores is Manuel who also speaks English.
LB
...and knows where the hotspots are.

Member #4167
12-05-07, 16:24
Water Boy,

PS Speaking Spanish helps (alot) and patience is required. Cat -

Gracias for your detailed answers to my questions. I am much appreciative.

While not fluent, I speak a crippled spanish. I can understand as long as she isn't a low class sloppy spanish speaker.

You said that " patience " is required for Peru. I take it that Peru is not like Cuba or Colombia where the normal girls will bang you within a hour of meeting you.

How much patience is required? I only have 2 weeks there. What is the average "Time to penetration" are we talking the 1st 2nd 3rd date ? Even more time ?

Other members of the forum please let me know you thoguhts on this too.

Thank you in advance

TheCatsMeow88
12-06-07, 03:11
Cat -

Gracias for your detailed answers to my questions. I am much appreciative.

While not fluent, I speak a crippled spanish. I can understand as long as she isn't a low class sloppy spanish speaker.

You said that " patience " is required for Peru. I take it that Peru is not like Cuba or Colombia where the normal girls will bang you within a hour of meeting you.

How much patience is required? I only have 2 weeks there. What is the average "Time to penetration" are we talking the 1st 2nd 3rd date ? Even more time ?

Other members of the forum please let me know you thoguhts on this too.

Thank you in advance
Water Boy,

It depends on the situation, so let me try and sort this one out.

1) In Lima, it is certainly possible to pick up a regular, non-pro girl in a night club, take her back to your hotel and bang her that same night. No problems there.

2) It is also possible- though less likely- to meet a regular girl (waitress, office girl, student etc.) in a regular setting (at work, on the street, in a cafe), take her back to the hotel and bang her right away. The reason for this is that many of them just cannot get away there and then. They are either working, on the way to work/college or have some other commitment. However, if you get the same girl's cell number and arrange a meeting for later that day when she is free, or the next day, the chances of banging her on the first or second meet are high.

3) A very small number of the girls I have picked up via internet websites, in the past, have refused to let me bang them on the first meeting. When that happens they almost never get a second bite of the cherry, so to speak. My theory here is that this is not a "cold" encounter as they already know me from chatting on MSN or by phone and, besides, I usually make it pretty clear what they are getting themselves into.

4) Many regular girls are also semi-pros, who may actually like you but nonetheless expect a propina for their troubles. In this case, you are assured to get laid. This happens ALOT in Lima. Just ask the Sly One when you meet him.

The point that I was making is that though the barriers to entry are often low, a semi-pro is still more effort than a pro where you make a selection from a website, on the street or wherever and hand over the cash.

Two weeks is more than enough time. The first 2-3 days are always slow but by the end of your trip you will be banging a different girl every night and wishing you were staying longer.

In closing, I strongly advise you to get connected with the Sly One and other local members who can point you in the right direction. And if you have time, scout some Peruvian women on websites like latinlovesearch.com. These steps will greatly shorten the amount of time required to get your bearings, as well as your TTP (Time To Pussy).

I hope this helps.

The Cat

PS Needless to say, your personal looks, charisma and willingness to spend money also have a bearing on all of this. That is not to say that you need to look like Brad Pitt, or have his pockets, to get laid. Average, middle-aged gringos, like myself, get all the pussy they can handle- and then some- in Lima.

TheCatsMeow88
12-06-07, 15:03
Thank You Both to Cat and to Cap'n Napalm.

======================================

Hi,

I sincerely appreciate your contributions to the forum, but...

Would you please refrain from capitalizing the first letter of EVERY word in your reports!

It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.

On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: Thank You!

Jackson
Water Boy,

TTP is not defined in the abbreviations list. I prefer "Time To Pussy" over "Time To Penetration" bur either one will do.

Of course, for visitors like ourselves, the ultimate TTP move is to have a chica meet you at the airport and escort you to your hotel. That is where the internet comes in. I have found this technique to be particularly useful because I always seem to be anxious the first night. I did not do this the last time I was in Lima because I landed on a Saturday night and made straight for Sly One's party.

The Cat

Enigma84
12-06-07, 19:08
Hi boys,

I am glad we are starting to talk about more non-pro activity in Peru and Latin America for that matter. I mean you can only screw pros for so long right? Also as I get older and head into my 50's I seem to have less tolerance for pros and more tolerance for non-pros. It's just more fulfilling.

The thing I notice though is that contrary to what many believe, non-pros are actually more expensive then pros.

Anyway just wanted ask questions on the non-pro activity in Peru.

TheCatsMeow88 It's interesting that you say you bang chicks on the same night outside of clubs. In all the Latin countries I have been to its more like 3-4 dates later and then "maybe" you might get lucky. You also need alot of game for non-pros.

About dating model/actress quality. what would a guy need to date one of them? I have heard of gringos pulling models in countries. One guy I know claims he pulled one of the presenters from Globo TV in Brazil. Could be BS but still if there is a possibility I would definitely like to bang a few model types.

Thanks

TheCatsMeow88
12-06-07, 22:09
Hi boys,

I am glad we are starting to talk about more non-pro activity in Peru and Latin America for that matter. I mean you can only screw pros for so long right? Also as I get older and head into my 50's I seem to have less tolerance for pros and more tolerance for non-pros. It's just more fulfilling.

The thing I notice though is that contrary to what many believe, non-pros are actually more expensive than pros.
Enigma84,

Yes, I agree. Dating regular girls and semi-pros becomes expensive very quickly once you rack up the true costs, namely: Meals, drinks, taxi rides, entertainment and gifts. As the old saying goes: you pay one way or the other.


Anyway just wanted ask questions on the non-pro activity in Peru.

TheCatsMeow88 It's interesting that you say you bang chicks on the same night outside of clubs. In all the Latin countries I have been to its more like 3-4 dates later and then "maybe" you might get lucky. You also need alot of game for non-pros.
Of course, this totally contradicts what Water Boy said about Colombia and Cuba a few posts ago (Quote: I take it that Peru is not like Cuba or Colombia where the normal girls will bang you within a hour of meeting you. Unquote).

At this point I have to ask you: "Have you ever actually visited Lima for any length of time?". I do not often go out clubbing in Lima (no time) but it so happens that the last time I did so, I pulled not one but two dentists, took them back to the hotel and fucked them the same night. Total damage: The cost of a jug of beer on Calle Pizza and 100 soles propina each, which they asked for only once we got back to the room. This brings me back to a point I made earlier: In Lima there are plenty of "regular" girls who will ask you for a propina even though they are clearly not working girls. Does that make them pros, semi-pros or just regular girls who want to fuck a gringo and make a few soles on the side? Not sure who is deceiving who in that situation. I, for one, would not normally expect to be asked for cash in that situation but that is Lima for you.


About dating model/actress quality. what would a guy need to date one of them?
Time and money. You need to figure out where to look for them (i.e which clubs they hang out in) and be prepared to spend cash when you find them. Models are notoriously high maintenance. I usually chase anfitriona quality girls which are a notch lower than models but still blow away anything you could expect to screw in Sex Prison without spending big bucks.

And those are the facts.

The Cat

Enigma84
12-06-07, 22:35
Enigma84,

Yes, I agree. Dating regular girls and semi-pros becomes expensive very quickly once you rack up the true costs, namely: Meals, drinks, taxi rides and gifts. As the old saying goes: you pay one way or the other.

Of course, this totally contradicts what Water Boy said about Colombia and Cuba a few posts ago (Quote: I take it that Peru is not like Cuba or Colombia where the normal girls will bang you within a hour of meeting you. Unquote).

At this point I have to ask you: "Have you ever actually visited Lima for any length of time?". I do not often go out clubbing in Lima (no time) but it so happens that the last time I did so, I pulled not one but two dentists, took them back to the hotel and fucked them the same night. Total damage: The cost of a jug of beer on Calle Pizza and 100 soles propina each, which they asked for only once we got back to the room. This brings me back to a point I made earlier: In Lima there are plenty of "regular" girls who will ask you for a propina even though they are clearly not working girls. Does that make them pros, semi-pros or just regular girls who want to fuck a gringo and make a few soles on the side? Not sure who is deceiving who in that situation. I, for one, was not expecting to be asked for cash that night but that is Lima for you.Hello CatsMeow88, No I haven't been to Peru yet but I have been to Colombia, Dominican Rep and Brazil. Colombia had nice non-pros but the time it normally took me to bed one was more like 3 dates or 4. These aren't club chicks, just the ones you meet at the mall or perhaps at the beach in CTG.

I am planning to do another visit and stay for maybe longer, like 7 months or longer. Maybe enrol in a university and learn spanish whilst there. That way I can network with the local chicas and meet more of them.

I think ultimately its all about time. If you have more time, money and can speak spanish, your ability to screw pussy increases.
Money and time. You need to figure out where to look for them (i.e which clubs they hang out in) and be prepared to spend cash when you find them. Models are notoriously high maintenance. I usually chase anfitriona quality girls which are a notch lower than models but still blow away anything you could expect to screw in Sex Prison without blowing big bucks.

And those are the facts.

The Cat Agreed, I felt the same way but I wasn't sure if I was right. I met another gringo that lived in Santiago, Dominican rep and he was screwing a beauty queen from there. but he was kind of loaded and was living there permanently.

If you can get and meet with the kind of crowd these ladies hang around with, then you could have someone introduce you to them. I make a habit of not meeting women in clubs because:

1) don't like to feel like the odd guy out since I am in my mid 40's
2)music is too loud and just irritating.

I prefer to meet them in bars where mainstream music is played rather than nightclubs.

Just my 2 cent

Cheers for the reply.

Captain Napalm
12-07-07, 02:20
Enigma84,

Yes, I agree. Dating regular girls and semi-pros becomes expensive very quickly once you rack up the true costs, namely: Meals, drinks, taxi rides and gifts.

You forgot the most important thing; time.

As with for the topic, it depends on your priorities. A pro is a definite lay, a regular girl isn't. It all depends on what one wants to do. Some prefer the thrill of the chase, others prefer the sure thing.

TheCatsMeow88
12-07-07, 03:35
Since I post quite a bit on this forum, newbies may be under the false impression that I am a Lima resident or expert. I would like to clarify that neither of these statements is correct.

I am not a Lima expert and have never claimed to be any such thing. If you read my posts you will notice that I have often deferred to locals on issues I know nothing about. For example, when people ask me to comment on cities outside of Lima that I have never visited or ask me about places like the Troc, that I have also never visited, I direct them to in-country resources such as Lima Busy, Sly One and Polvo or even those masters of budget mongering, Tung and Artisttyp.

I do what I do (and with some success, I might add). It is limited but it works for me. Yes, it is relatively high-end compared to some of the mongering that is reported here but my days of screwing $15 *****s in dingy rooms are behind me (I sincerely hope). I screw nice women in comfortable surroundings, usually after a nice dinner. If that is a crime then I am guilty as charged. Though I travel to Lima several times each year, I rarely venture outside Miraflores as I do not need to. I have been as far a-field as Barranco, San Isidro, San Borja and even the perilous Centro (Having stayed at the Sheraton a couple of time before discovering the Marriott). But you have never seen me post in the Cusco, Arequipa or Ica threads. Why? Because I have never visited any of them.

If people on this board have questions about how I go about mongering, what works for me, how to pick up non-pros in Miraflores, my experiences in Lima or other subjects that fall within my knowledge base, I will continue to respond to them, regardless of what the naysayers have to say. When people have questions about topics that I know nothing about, I will continue to keep quiet.

I am not posting this by way of apology, or anything, but wanted to clarify my position given a few recent remarks made regarding "self-appointed" experts. I am not a Lima expert, let alone a self-appointed one. That does not mean that I do not have something to contribute to this board, not least of which are the photos that I have posted over the past 12 months (which I would venture to say is the most photos posted by anyone in the combined Lima + Peru Photo Gallery).

In summary, when I have something to say I will continue say it. For specific questions regarding in-country activities and locations, please direct your questions to the guys who live there and are connected with what is happening on a day-to day basis.

I would also like to point out that everything I post is factual and based on my experiences in-country. I do not make up any of this stuff up, contrary to what has been implied by certain individuals who shall remain nameless but know full well who they are.

I hope I am making myself clear here and I would appreciate it if the nonsense stopped with this post.

We thank you in advance for your concern.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
12-08-07, 03:52
I think ultimately its all about time. If you have more time, money and can speak spanish, your ability to screw pussy increases.

Now there is a truism if ever I heard one.

TheCatsMeow88
12-09-07, 22:46
Thank you Dr Bill

My questions are merely posed to determine wether or not
"Pursuing a girlfriend whilst on a vacation could be a huge waste of time and money, and my time would be better served pursuing the brothel route"

Time of course is the factor: It is summed up by this equation:

Total Vacation Time = Time to Acquire Taco + Time to Enjoy Taco

Or better yet:
Time to Enjoy Taco = Total Vacation Time - Time to Acquire Taco

Time To Acquire Taco = 3 dates (at one date every other day) = 1 week (7 days) Best case scenario is that she has 3 consecutive days free beginning with the first day of your arrival, giving you a 3 day Taco Acquisition Time (this is and unlikely, hence the 7 day Taco Acquisition Time)

Therefore

If you have 7 day vacation
Time to Enjoy Taco = 7 days - 7 days = 0 days

If you have 14 day vacation
Time to Enjoy Taco = 14 days - 7 days = 7 days

Conclusion:
If you have a 7 day vacation, it is better to PURCHASE your tacos in the "Fast-food" style of Tung or Ezinho and thus be guaranteed of a meal.

Can someone check my math?
Water Boy,

I think you are over-analyzing this. In addition, there are lots of variables such as the assumption that it takes 3 dates and that these dates will occur every other day. It has never taken me six days to bang a girl in Peru (I am rarely in Lima for six consecutive days as my trips tend to be shorter). The best case scenario is not that she has 3 consecutive days free but that you bang her the day you meet her. The real question is whether you meet the right girl on day 1 or day 7 of the trip.

The Cat

Lima Busy
12-09-07, 23:37
Water Boy,

I think you are over-analyzing this. In addition, there are lots of variables such as the assumption that it takes 3 dates and that these dates will occur every other day. It has never taken me six days to bang a girl in Peru (I am rarely in Lima for six consecutive days as my trips tend to be shorter). The best case scenario is not that she has 3 consecutive days free but that you bang her the day you meet her. The real question is whether you meet the right girl on day 1 or day 7 of the trip.

The Cat
I will have to agree with Cat. I think most guys do at least two-three coffee dates a day, which are 45min -1 hour, and only repeat and up the ante to lunch or dinner or movie if the vibe is there. Never bring/meet a girl at an expat spot unless she is fugly or we will steal her. Still plenty of time to fill in the nights with Tequila´s or even better, Just ¨hookin up¨with a regular girl from (fill in name of your favorite haunt).
LB

TheCatsMeow88
12-10-07, 04:41
...how do you price your time?...Why fuck around with coffee dates for some delusional GFE experience.

Polvo
Polvo,

A very reasonable perspective for some but not others, as Doc Bill pointed out a few posts ago.

The Cat


Yes, Peru is not at all like Colombia or Cuba. If it's strictly sex you want you should go to those places. But if you want someone who will genuinely enjoy being with you and doesn't just see you as an ATM, Peru is the place. This difference is a very important one to me, not to some others.

TheCatsMeow88
12-10-07, 13:21
Inquiring minds need to know. Thanks!
Yes indeed, inquiring minds need and want to know.


There are many, many night clubs in Lima. Some are good, many are terrible, and most are no better than a morass of mediocrity.
And how would you rate Casanova on this scale (i.e. Terrible, Mediocre, Good)

Polvo
12-10-07, 16:56
Polvo,.....A very reasonable perspective for some but not others, as Doc Bill pointed out a few posts ago.....The Cat
For someone who is only coming down for 7 days and does math in Tacos??? I stand by my post.

Doc spends time on the ground, as do you, so my post would not apply.

Suerte!

Polvo

Tungurahua
12-10-07, 20:56
Water Boy I think you are over-analyzing this. After summarizing Guayaquil as "it sucks" and Quito with one chica, the same chica Full Throttle and I found to be the sum of all fears, I see WB has shifted boards. I thought I had a Hamlet-y complex in taking 37.61 seconds to make a decision, soliloquizing every angle aloud. I like hearing new perspectives but damn, WB takes Hamlet to a new level, 1489 questions for every taco sampled.

Use logical symbols to rewrite these statements and determine if the argument is valid: If tacos can sing, then boobies can fly. If boobies can fly, then tacos can sing and asses can't play chess. Asses can play chess if and only if tacos can sing. Therefore, tacos can't sing.

Hmmm, where do I start ... f(x) = f((y-1)/2) = [ 2(y-1)/2 + 1] = [y] = y ... ah, fuck this. Wait! It appears David_33 as quoted in post 3590 already solved this. Great work!

I do appreciate the "fast-food" comment though. I like that. Thanks WB. Does that make me McTung? I need a slogan. Something like "fast fuel for those unwilling to dance to the masochistic courtship ritual."


Why fuck around with coffee dates for some delusional GFE experience. Amen. Expanding operations from banking I might use a variation of that for my new Fast-Fuck enterprise, using the T-currency of course.

Oh, and I revise. I don't get indigestion, I get heartburn. Ugh.

TheCatsMeow88
12-10-07, 23:59
After summarizing Guayaquil as "it sucks" and Quito with one chica, the same chica Full Throttle and I found to be the sum of all fears, I see WB has shifted boards. I thought I had a Hamlet-y complex in taking 37.61 seconds to make a decision, soliloquizing every angle aloud. I like hearing new perspectives but damn, WB takes Hamlet to a new level, 1489 questions for every taco sampled.
Tung,

Thank you for the heads up. As a general rule, we try to be polite to newcomers on the Lima thread but I suspect WB will find us somewhat less cooperative to answering his questions moving forward.

The Cat

Polvo
12-11-07, 03:04
....I suspect WB will find us somewhat less cooperative to answering his questions moving forward.....The Cat
What is the square root of a jar of pickles???

Polvo

TheCatsMeow88
12-15-07, 20:13
It has been my experience that gringos are desirable to Peruanas in general, and from the US in particular. Outside Miraflores and a few other neighborhoods gringos are rare so the Peruana conception of Americans is formed from the American TV shows. They might have seen the dirty Lonely Planet backpacker types but you know better than to look sloppy and be dirty when seeking Latinas, right?

Think about the following points, then extrapolate and formulate your game plan:

1) Girls in nightclubs in areas with lots of gringos are more likely to have had contact with American men so your novelty and desirability are lessened.

2) Girls in nightclubs either a) have money themselves b) are interested in your money.

With these things in mind it would probably be a good plan to go places with few gringos and make excuses to meet the chicas who would like to meet a gringo but are prohibited by circumstance. For instance, a girl selling trinkets in a mercado or on the street might enjoy chatting with a friendly gringo.

If this guy knows some basic Spanish and can ask her name and if she has a boyfriend or husband that might be a good place to start. If she is single it would be a good idea for the guy have learned how to say something like "A beautiful girl like you with no boyfriend/husband? How is this possible?"

If this guy really has it going on he will say that since she is so beautiful and single he would be very happy when she has free time if she would go with him for ice cream and he will have a pen and paper to exchange email and numbers.

Then the guy will follow up, get together, and work hard to make sure the girl tremendously enjoys her time with him.

Suerte, and Happy Holidays!
Elberto,

Wise men bearing gifts are always welcome.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
12-16-07, 01:02
The next installment of ¨Polvo´s¨LIMA CLUB CRAWL is going to be written tonight as the largest group yet navigates the neon of less mentioned venues.
LB
We wait with baited breath.

TheCatsMeow88
12-16-07, 15:37
Has anyone been to all those discos on ave. la marina ? There are a few sex places but Im refering to the normal discos like you would see in lince.
Artisttyp,

Funny you should ask because they caught my eye also on my last trip. I asked the taxi driver about them as we drove to the airport and he mentioned that there is talent to be had but did not provide specifics and neither can I as I have never actually visited any of them. However, Elberto's comments about frequenting areas where gringos are rare may apply here. My only hesitation is that Av. La Marina does not look like the nicest/safest of areas.

The Cat

Artisttyp
12-16-07, 16:40
Artisttyp,

My only hesitation is that Av. La Marina does not look like the nicest/safest of areas.

The Cat


I would think its no different than lince. San miguel plaza is right there so its not like hanging out with a callao(although close) crowd.

I would say check it out and be out of there by 1am the first time around. The turn off to me is having to walk into half empty clubs until you find the right one.

I was planning on doing just that but lately I havent been a night person. I prefer a good afternoon lay a nice dinner then a movie.

Billy Warmer
12-17-07, 05:04
Artisttyp,

Funny you should ask because they caught my eye also on my last trip. I asked the taxi driver about them as we drove to the airport and he mentioned that there is talent to be had but did not provide specifics and neither can I as I have never actually visited any of them. However, Elberto's comments about frequenting areas where gringos are rare may apply here. My only hesitation is that Av. La Marina does not look like the nicest/safest of areas.

The CatI agree with the Cat. That is not the saviest place in Lima. Even if it is not always dangerous, it can happen at any time, an specially at night. If you do decide to have a try, be careful with cabs, specially in Christmas time, Also take care on what they are serving you, etc. I very seldom go to that place for girlls. Most of clubs in that area are mainly for dancing, but of course you can find some pros. But they will not be the best in the city, will not be very professionals in the sense of commitment to their compromise, and will not be the most beautiful. Tequila of La Marina Avenue is a place where you can find many chicks of Las Cucardas having fun on Saturday night. They usually take that chance to have an extra income while they are taking fun.

TheCatsMeow88
12-18-07, 02:21
Continuing the spasmodic reporting of the higher and mid-tier clubs I now offer my analysis of Eclipse....

Eclipse (Augusto Tamayo 158) in San Isidro is the place that many of the taxi drivers at the end of Calle Pizza tout, so I have always been adverse to going there anticipating a Mexico City, Zona Rosa type rip-off. It turns out to be not true.

Entrada is S/.50 which includes two beers. Good deal....

Suerte!

Polvo
Polvo,

I come seeking guidance.

Somewhere on this board I thought I read that the website for Eclipse is www.eclipseclubperu.com. This link does not work and I am wondering whether the club has:

a) taken its site down
b) changed their url
c) closed down altogether

or d) whether I was wrong to begin with.

Why do I care, you ask? Well, the last time I found their website I also found a free entrance certificate which would, presumably, save me and other ISG board members the 50 soles entrada fee mentioned in your report. And since I am planning to be in Lima in January... well you can understand my anxiety.

Please advise, knowledgeable one.

The Cat

PS Any other tips on how to get into high-end strip clubs for free would be greatly appreciated. I do not mind paying for drinks, lap dances and other services but I just hate paying the entrada fee. I have been known to tip doormen in order to avoid paying entrance fees, sometimes costing me just as much as the entrada itself! Don't ask why but there is a method to my madness.

Polvo
12-21-07, 01:20
Polvo, I come seeking guidance......Somewhere on this board I thought I read that the website for Eclipse is www.eclipseclubperu.com. .........I ...found a free entrance certificate which would, presumably, save me and other ISG board members the 50 soles entrada fee mentioned in your report. And since I am planning to be in Lima in January... well you can understand my anxiety......

Cat:

There has been an immense amount of "churn" in the websites in Peru over the last few months, with many going to the crappy sex-prison template and using gringas as bait.

However, I am please to inform you that this link http://www.nightclubeclipse.com/ is the new one!! Still not a good website but it does have the promotions listed! None of the search engines was good for this, I had to use Cholotube!

Other methods?? Collect VIP cards, be suave and debonair, or just remember that most of the entradas (assuming you dodge the taxi impuesto) is very, very close to the cost of one beer in the club!! Shakespeare wrote a play about this, methinks. :-)

Suerte!

Polvo

TheCatsMeow88
12-21-07, 02:42
Cat:

There has been an immense amount of "churn" in the websites in Peru over the last few months, with many going to the crappy sex-prison template and using gringas as bait.

However, I am please to inform you that this link http://www.nightclubeclipse.com/ is the new one!! Still not a good website but it does have the promotions listed! None of the search engines was good for this, I had to use Cholotube!

Other methods?? Collect VIP cards, be suave and debonair, or just remember that most of the entradas (assuming you dodge the taxi impuesto) is very, very close to the cost of one beer in the club!! Shakespeare wrote a play about this, methinks. :-)

Suerte!

Polvo
Polvo,

Good stuff. Honest to goodness primary research and I believe you about the search engines as they did not compute for me either.

I see the website has some promotions that are trying to con you into sharing personal details with them. Interestingly, they have no need for your name. Just your e-mail id and birth date! Well, there is Peruvian web design for you. They will give you a bottle of wine on your birthday but do not want to know who you are. Even so, fat chance of getting any info out of me. I get enough junk mail as it is.

I am sorry to see that the free entrance pass no longer features on the website. It was great as you just printed it out- no personal data requested- and it did not appear to have an expiration date. I wonder if they will honor the one I did manage to print out before they took the site down? Well, I'll just have to wait until January to find out.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
12-23-07, 00:00
...Since I'm basically a tourist, I decided to get some dates ahead of time and used Badoo and Latin Love Search to make some friends. I made about 60 dates for a three week period. basically if I wanted I could do two dates a day, however that is when I realized that I was an idiot for thinking like that....

You may say what is the problem with that, but it is a big problem. What if I really like a girl? what if one sees the next? What if I want to do my own thing? What if I meet someone on the street? Basically I'm now married to the dates I have setted up. Next time I wil at the most set up about three dates and go from there.


Gabriel,

You have hit the nail on the head. That is the continual trade-off that I have to make. How many dates shall I set up in advance and how much time shall I leave for "ad lib" work? There is always the concern that if you do not do the homework, you will end up with nothing while the clock is ticking away. Since my trips tend to be much shorter than 3 weeks, I am always anxious to avoid this situation. If you have really set up 60 dates, that is one problem you will not have! Setting up too many dates, as you appear to have done, means that you will not have any free time to pick up chicas in bars and on the streets, which I like to do.

The reason that I often set up at least one date before arriving is that I am always anxious to hit the ground running on the first night. After a long flight and late arrival, I do not want to waste time searching for talent. Consequently, I usually have someone meet me at the airport or hotel, thereby doing away with all of the uncertainty. On this trip, I may take a different approach and hit Eclipse instead.

60 dates for 3 weeks is clearly ridiculous. Are you planning on meeting 3 girls per day? Even with the inevitable cancellations/no shows you are not going to be able to service all of these women. And if you meet someone you actually like and want to spend time with, olvidalo! The good news for you is that I will be in town at the same time as you, as will a friend of mine, so that you have a reliable and effective way of dealing with the overflow (i.e. send them to us)! I will send you a PM with the details.

Later

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
12-23-07, 22:51
...sleeping with different girls each night in Lima? BS, unless you have tons
of $$$$.Your white ass won`t be enough!
Samu Ray,

Do not be so sure. It is very much doable if you are willing to do your homework. And yes, I am a whitey.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
12-23-07, 22:57
Question: you meet two women. Both look identical, they are beautiful, healthy human beings. One is from the new human colony on planet mars. The other hangs out at XYZ Bar in downtown Lima. You've dated other women from XYZ bar and they are generous, courteous and pretty level headed.

Which one are you going to go out with first ?
Whichever one agrees to suck my dick and swallow every drop.

The Cat

Gabrielm
12-24-07, 17:55
Hello Cats,

Well you are right, it started as a game and got a bout 5 lined up, then 5 better ones and then I took it as a challenge. I'm only specting to see at the most about 7 to 10 girls. But even 7-10 girls it seems that it is too much, the girls all want to spend a lot of time with me. I probably will have action with at least 5 of them to leave me with some time to hit some spots (One of them trocadero, since I visited as a teenager) Definetly one of Sly One's parties, and a coulple of high end kinesiologas.

I may be able to hook you up with at least one of my friends, I will touch base with you via PM.

The only thing that I want to make sure is that I'm not bragging, it was a stupid thing to do, and I'm not planning on making the same mistake again. But at the same time it should give you guys an idea that you can set up some dates before you get to lima.

Happy mongering.


Gabriel,

You have hit the nail on the head. That is the continual trade-off that I have to make. How many dates shall I set up in advance and how much time shall I leave for "ad lib" work? There is always the concern that if you do not do the homework, you will end up with nothing while the clock is ticking away. Since my trips tend to be much shorter than 3 weeks, I am always anxious to avoid this situation. If you have really set up 60 dates, that is one problem you will not have! Setting up too many dates, as you appear to have done, means that you will not have any free time to pick up chicas in bars and on the streets, which I like to do.

The reason that I often set up at least one date before arriving is that I am always anxious to hit the ground running on the first night. After a long flight and late arrival, I do not want to waste time searching for talent. Consequently, I usually have someone meet me at the airport or hotel, thereby doing away with all of the uncertainty. On this trip, I may take a different approach and hit Eclipse instead.

60 dates for 3 weeks is clearly ridiculous. Are you planning on meeting 3 girls per day? Even with the inevitable cancellations/no shows you are not going to be able to service all of these women. And if you meet someone you actually like and want to spend time with, olvidalo! The good news for you is that I will be in town at the same time as you, as will a friend of mine, so that you have a reliable and effective way of dealing with the overflow (i.e. send them to us)! I will send you a PM with the details.

Later

The Cat

Member #4167
12-24-07, 20:13
Whichever one agrees to suck my dick and swallow every drop.

The CatSo true! LOL!

Water Boy

TheCatsMeow88
12-26-07, 03:38
hi guys,

i’m on way to lima and i’m just wondering if you guys know a spa where i can get a real massage (from a real massage therapist). i know there is r&v (which i will visit for sure), but i just want to get a real massage, i don’t even care if the massage therapist is a guy

thanks,

jimbox
jimbox

the following banos turcos is the place for you if they have not changed their operation since my last visit. it is the very first banos turcos i visited in lima and the masseur was an old blind guy. great massage and nothing sexual (at least, not from the blind masseur and i did not try anyone else). the rates may have changed as this info is a couple of years old.

tel: 225 9722 / 475 1997 / 475 0116
calle ucello 260-104
san borga (centro comercial)
al costado de wong (supermercado)
m-f: 12pm-11pm
sat: 7am-11pm, sun: 6am-6pm, holidays: 8am-8pm

entrance fee: 45 sols
massage:
55 sols for 55 mins corporal,
50 sols for 60 mins shiatsu

the cat

ps there is a custom tailor shirt across the road from the banos turcos where i had three shirts made. excellent work and reasonable prices.

TheCatsMeow88
12-26-07, 03:55
The only thing that I want to make sure is that I'm not bragging, it was a stupid thing to do, and I'm not planning on making the same mistake again. But at the same time it should give you guys an idea that you can set up some dates before you get to lima.
Gabriel,

I have known that- and used it to my advantage- for quite some time. But thank you for the tip.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
12-26-07, 04:01
I decided to limit my dating activity to four or five civ's and give my best effort on each of them. Apparently I didn't choose well - the one I was most interested in turned out to be hung up on her ex, and none of the chicas put out for me.
Little King,

Are you a gringo? Something is not quite right here. You met 4-5 chicks on the internet, met them face-to-face in Lima and did not get laid? Either:

1) You did not do a good job of setting expectations,
2) You need to work on your game, or
3) You are the unluckiest guy I know.

Nobody I know goes to Lima, meets 4-5 chicks and does not bed any of them. That is real freaky.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
12-26-07, 04:38
It is nice to see more guys coming to town who can appreciate the other options in Lima. Having a lot of friends down at tequilas that are ¨good hearted¨ girls, I do not like to put the place down like some others. But the club scene although more expensive and difficult to navigate has some amazing talent. As Polvo reported Cassanova is a viable option on Sunday´s for those getting into town late and the girls at Emmanuelle,Suites & 69 are smoking. Eclispe is considered to be a step down in price and quality, but if you hit it on the right night,you understand why it is so popular with some of the reg travelers. Which brings up the ¨main problem¨! Weither it be Tequilas or any other club, the talent can vary from night to night as the hot ones have regular clients,Travel or just want to go out at night to party at a regular club. This is more common on the weekends as the wealthy married Peruvians do not have the work excuse and can´t play. The girls all know this and go out to Aura on a Sat night. Again Polvo is the resident expert on these high end club girls and if he was not so busy every night,would have time to share his knowledge here. I have learned alot from his private club tours but do not want to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on his parade as he has invested alot more time and money gaining his knowledge and contacts.
LB
LB,

I am with you on this all the way. The only point I would like to add is that the logical response to your post is, "I think I'll head down to Aura or Gothica on Saturday and pick up some of Lima's finest". I have actually been down that path and, unfortunately, it is not the way to go for middle-forties guys like myself. There is no doubting the quality of the talent that frequents Aura on Friday and Saturday nights. As a JW Marriott regular, I have the good fortune of watching them parade by, on their way to Larco Mar. Just looking them over as they line up to get into Aura gives me a boner. The problem is that the crowd is about 20-25 years younger than I am. Nobody stares or laughs but you feel old nonetheless. The only time I went into Aura was when I had a 20yo chica with me (one of the ones you met at Cafe Z) and we left after about an hour because it was not really her scene. Great eye candy for me while we were there! Now, if I was an 18-25yo gringo, visiting Lima with money in my pocket, there is no doubt that Aura and Gothica would be top of my hit list.

The Cat

Little King
12-27-07, 01:08
Little King,

Are you a gringo? Something is not quite right here. You met 4-5 chicks on the internet, met them face-to-face in Lima and did not get laid? Either:

1) You did not do a good job of setting expectations,
2) You need to work on your game, or
3) You are the unluckiest guy I know.

Nobody I know goes to Lima, meets 4-5 chicks and does not bed any of them. That is real freaky.

The CatCat,

My results are in part my game or personality for sure, I've never laid a real high percentage of my dates even there. Something from years of total hopelessness and cluelessness dating gringas might still be carrying over, I don't know. But I know I'm not at all ugly or too old, and I have had a number of Lima non's fall for me before (and some pro's pretend to be in love!), but being an introvert I know it could be a lot better - I haven't ever succeeded at all with the very best looking civs and have to go to the nightclubs for the highest levels of talent. While all my dates were decent looking, none were at that level so I really thought I'd get better results.

For sure anyone's MWV in Lima, everyone is different in who we are and what we are looking for and what we have the game, time and money to get. If I seeked out and dated specifically 6's and 6.5's I could get a lot more civilian pussy, but I wouldn't enjoy that a whole lot.

TheCatsMeow88
12-27-07, 15:39
I haven't ever succeeded at all with the very best looking civs and have to go to the nightclubs for the highest levels of talent. While all my dates were decent looking, none were at that level so I really thought I'd get better results.

If I seeked out and dated specifically 6's and 6.5's I could get a lot more civilian pussy, but I wouldn't enjoy that a whole lot.
Little King,

Understood and I have commented on this before. If one's objective is to bang 9s and 10s then Lima is probably not the ideal destination. In the first place, there are not that many model types around. Most of the girls in Lima are on the short side, which disqualifies them right there. Secondly, the few that you do run into are not waiting to fall into the arms of the first gringo they see. The laws of supply and demand mean that they can afford to be selective. As you correctly point out, the surefire way to sleep with a 9-10 calibre girl in Lima is to visit a place like Suite de Barranco or Emmanuelles and drop a couple of hundred dollars.

To me, Lima is the the land where 7s flow like water and they are far more approachable than in sex prison USA. However, if your objective is to land model type girls, you are probably better off in a more target-rich environment such as Colombia, Brazil or even certain Eastern European countries (e.g. Poland), where the tall blonde goddesses are a dime a dozen and still just about affordable, despite the plummeting dollar.

My point was that if you put the time into scouting for babes on the internet and set expectations correctly, banging a cutie in Lima is pretty much a sure thing. You should be banging far better than 1 in 5 in my experience. That is all.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
01-05-08, 22:28
all,

anyone travelling to lima and seeking sexual services should consider the services offered by the following escort sites. i have found some of them to be highly satisfactory.

the cat

www.bellasvip.net
www.gatasperu.com
www.placeresdelperu.com
www.chicastops.com
www.peruvianbunnies.com
www.hot-peru.com
www.chanelvip.com
www.nenasperu.com
http://www.placeresdelperu.com
http://latingirls-peru.com/index2.htm
http://perutops.com/foro-relax/forumdisplay.php?f=56
www.escortpoint.com
www.[CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900)-vip.com
www.limasensual.tk
www.clasifica.com
www.caramelitosdelperu.com

TheCatsMeow88
01-05-08, 22:34
All,

If you are into massage services, I would look into these options:

Banos Turcos Relax y Vida
Carlos Villaran #121
Santa Catalina – 265-5370
Open daily from 10:00 AM until 10:00 PM
http://www.geocities.com/relax_y_vida

Banos Turcos La Marina
Avenida La Marina #2865
San Miguel – 578-2476

Ely Spa
Sorry, no details.

I also have a number of "personal" masseurs who visit me at my hotel when I am in town. If anyone is interested in partaking of the services provided by one of these girls, please do not hesitate to PM me for details.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
01-06-08, 04:59
Are these ranked in anyway? If not, can you please?

Suerte!

Polvo
Polvo,

Sorry, I cannot provide any meaningful ranking as I am not familar with all of the sites. I will provide additional information on select sites in due course.

The Cat

PolyOrchid
01-06-08, 19:28
Jackson,

I rest my case.

The CatSince when is someone's helping out a fellow monger promoting his "services"?

I've traveled a bit and from time to time find guys like David who are willing to share their knowledge, connections, and, bottom line, they're just genuinely helpful.

David tells me he gets absolutely nothing out of this, and I believe him. How his services can be construed as negative or unhelpful to newbies, or oldies, escapes me.

TheCatsMeow88
01-07-08, 16:05
Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

Let's get back to the subject.

Thank You,

Jackson

TheCatsMeow88
01-07-08, 17:59
Are these ranked in anyway? If not, can you please?

Suerte!

Polvo
Polvo,

As mentioned, I cannot really cannot offer rankings for the escort websites posted a few entries back because I have not used all of them and am, therefore, not in a position to comment on which ones are bait-and-switch. This is the most important issue in my opinion.

What I can tell you is that www.caramelitosdelperu.com is NOT a bait-and-switch operation. I used them back in October and they sent the lady in the photos. Please refer to my post dated 10/08/2007 653046 for a fuller description of my experience with them. Therefore, unless their policies have dramatically changed in the last three months, this is one site I would recommend to new visitors to Lima looking for some company.

Joder2 has reported on these pages that www.bellasvip.net is a bait-and-switch operation. See his post dated 11/02/2007: 663967. This is hardly surprising as half of the girls on the site look like supermodels.

I get a good feeling about www.nenasperu.com even though I have never used them. I get the feeling that the girls are independent and do not work for an agency, though that does not mean they are beyond pulling a bait-and-switch on you.

Finally, I have come across a highly promising outcall service. It has lots of positive references and reasonable prices. I plan to use it next time I visit Lima and will post my opinions when I do.

The Cat

Admin
01-08-08, 06:04
Jackson,

Consistent with your previous actions and the reproduced comment above, I respectfully request that the photos recently posted in this thread be moved to the newly created "Non Pro Chica" thread. Failure to do this will be interpreted by me as an unwillingness on your part to administer the board in a manner consistent with your previous actions and I will, therefore, assume that it is once again acceptable to discuss non-pro chicas on the Lima thread.

The CatGreetings everyone,

I do not have the time nor the patience to sort through the thread's previous reports.

FROM THIS MOMENT FORWARD, all reports in any way related to fucking chicks without paying them directly for their time MUST be posted in the new "Non Pro Chica" thread.

Any reports posted inthuis thread that are related to fucking chicks without paying them directly for their time WILL BE DELETED WITHOUT COMMENT.

And to TheCatsMeow88: I don't give a fuck how you interprete anything I do or "fail to do".

Thanks,

Jackson

NotYerAverage
01-08-08, 23:51
Greetings everyone,

I do not have the time nor the patience to sort through the thread's previous reports.

FROM THIS MOMENT FORWARD, all reports in any way related to fucking chicks without paying them directly for their time MUST be posted in the new "Non Pro Chica" thread.

Any reports posted inthuis thread that are related to fucking chicks without paying them directly for their time WILL BE DELETED WITHOUT COMMENT.

And to TheCatsMeow88: I don't give a fuck how you interprete anything I do or "fail to do".

Thanks,

JacksonAt the risk of sounding like a kiss-ass, "bravo!"

TheCatsMeow88
01-16-08, 01:35
SG,
All the guys that have stayed at the Penthouse and have used David33´s services have told me $100.00 as well and I remember ****** telling me he paid $85.00, So now if David is saying $250 an hour for the mother/daughter combo that would only be a 25% premium, which strikes me as quite reasonable.
LB,

It strikes me as a rip-off but to each his own. At $100/hour there are an unlimited number of eager and willing college students to be had, not girls from lower "socio-economic classes" who, presumably, are in the game out of financial necessity rather than by choice. But, once again, who am I to judge and to each his own.


Have not been in awhile but I heard that there have been no Gringo´s in there since Christmas and even the Hot Colombians are going out for S/.200 TLN. Rosita gave me a free pass, so I will have to see.

And hot Colombians for a mere 200 Soles TLN? You jest, surely! Now that sounds like a deal and, if this is true, I will have to check out Tequila Rocks again next time I am in town.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
01-16-08, 02:29
No Suave Gato, since in your modest way you previously informed the forum of your $10,000 win at the craps table, and stays at the Viking Club:

"My reference to the Viking club was not to be construed as an endorsement over Lima, nor would it be representative of the DR. The Viking club is simply the Platinum standard for the America’s. I have been there three times, once for an Eastern European (basically renowned for them) and once for a Venezuelan and a few weeks ago for the Brazilian women I referenced in a prior photo. In answer to your questions, $1300.00 a day buys a certain exclusivity and quality I enjoy but in no way guarantees performance."

I think it would be best that you pay the poor downtrodden Peruvian chicas at least $250 an hour.
I am not sure what the point is here. What difference does it make how much someone wins playing craps, roulette or blackjack? And if SG wants to blow $1,300 of his winnings at the Viking Club why should that be anyone's concern? Does the fact that someone gets lucky in a casino mean that they must automatically pay over the odds for pussy in Lima? Can someone please help me understand the reasoning here because, unlike Rene Descartes' masterpiece, the logic eludes me.

SG: Next time you are in Lima I suggest that you check out the hot Colombians in Tequila Rocks- as I plan to do- offer 200 Soles TLN- as LB suggests- and stick to your guns. And even if you have to go 300 Soles TLN that is still way better than USD 100 per hour. Of course, USD 250 per hour is absurd. You can take out top notch talent from the Suites de Barranco for significantly less than that (Unless, of course, you are a rich Arab or have more money than sense, in which case all bets are off).

And those are the facts.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
01-16-08, 05:12
I was disappointed, frustrated and even mad at some of the ISG members who boasted about their success in Peru. It seemed to me that everything they said was made-up fiction to boost their ego.
Dr P.,

Yes things might seem that way but your experience is actually typical for first-time visitors to Lima. Things change once you figure out where to look and what to look for. Do you speak Spanish?


First off to Tequila Rocks. After paying 20 soles and a little security search by a bouncer, I was in the ‘best p4p club in Peru.'
There are a wide range of opinions on this subject but, as far as I know, nobody on this board has ever claimed that Tequila Rocks is the best P4P club in Lima. Suites de Barranco, for one, has TR beat hands down for pure quality. If you want girls that would cost $500-$1,000 per hour in Las Vegas for a fraction of that price, the Suites would be the place to visit. Polvo and others have written about other clubs with quality girls and I have posted links to websites that offer value for money. All depends what you are looking for and how much you want to spend.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
01-18-08, 13:43
This topic repeatedly comes up with the locals who do not have a need for the services of David’s girls, but for the benefit of the board, I think you guys who have all written the syrupy reports ought to share some details.

David has stated that the average price is 200 soles (Which I think is extremely fair based on the more than positive reports his girls have garnered). It is generally believed that David does not receive compensation and having known him for several years I believe it 100%. Maybe it is my issue but I believe there needs to be more transparency. On the one hand he puts down the internet girls for ¨bait & switch or ¨photoshopping¨and on the other hand, wants you to take one of his girls unreviewed (no such word) and unseen.
LB,

A few comments:

1) It is not only the locals who do not have a need for these services. I can understand why a first-timer to Lima who speaks no Spanish, has done no research, and does not know any better goes this route. But if you speak Spanish, once you get your bearings there is no need for introduction services. As many locals and frequent visitors, including myself, have commented on numerous occasions, the opportunities to meet both P4P and regular girls are unlimited and you make your own introductions on the fly.

2) Not all of the escort/contact websites are bait-and-switch/photo shopped operations. Some of them display accurate pictures of the girls and pricing varies between 100-300 soles per visit. Note that I said per visit because on the few occasions I have used them, I have never come across a clock watcher. At 300 soles per hour, you essentially have access to model quality, or near model-quality, girls.

3) Back in the day, when I was new to Lima and had a better relationship with D33, I used his service a couple of times. Like you, I believe that he does not take a commission from the girls and have never claimed otherwise. Whether he benefits in other ways, I have no idea. I do know that one of the girls that I introduced to him ended up as the center-fold in one of his calendars so maybe there are some non-financial benefits but I am just speculating.

4) About 2 years ago, D33 charged me 300 soles per visit. The girls were attractive, stayed for more than an hour and represented fair value to me. Unfortunately, one particular girl (See link) was eager to leave as quickly as possible and did not deliver the services that were discussed. I told D33 as much but did not, and still do not, hold it against him. These things can and do happen and, to this day, I believe that it was the girl- not D33- who jerked me around.

5) All the syrupy comments and general singing of praises that have passed for "information sharing" on this board recently are entirely consistent with my experience. I specifically remember being encouraged/asked by D33 to write a complimentary post and actually did so a couple of years ago (I found it! See link below). Of course, I have since come to my senses.

And those are the facts.

The Cat

454560 - Guys, please note the price I paid back then. Sounds like I was overcharged compared to the rest of you guys! Still, it represented good value for money to me so I am not complaining, even now.

TheCatsMeow88
01-18-08, 17:49
In case knowone has noticed sly-one is having another orgy. The guy gives pussy away for free.

As a budget monger I highly recommend it.
Well, not quite for free as their is an entrance fee. However, if orgies and the swinger scene is your thing then Sly One's apartment is the place to be on a Saturday night. And I hear that he is constantly upgrading the quality of the talent so that the experience should get better each time!

Another option for Lima newbies and visitors!

The Cat

ChicagoBoy23
01-19-08, 22:44
Greetings everyone,

As it appears that TheCatsMeow88 and David 33 cannot coexist in the same forum, I have decided to award one of them by setting them up as a moderator in their own separate section for Peru. My decision will be made after I have received the input from the Forum membership in a new survey. Until then, both TheCatsMeow88 and David 33 are prohibited from posting comments about or directed towards each other. Accordingly I have deleted a number of such recently posted reports.

Forum Members who are active in the Peru Section may participate in this survey and/or post their comments in this thread:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2786

Thanks,

Jackson

---------------
David 33 is guy who runs a very successful business and only helps out visitors because he is a nice guy. He has never hooked me up but he has given me some great advice about Lima during my visits. If you met him in person you would know he loves living in Peru and just wants everybody else to have as much fun as him when they are visiting.

Polvo
01-20-08, 02:21
Well, not quite for free as their is an entrance fee.......

A friend of mine has just been offered a full bore sex party orgy by a moderator on Perutops at one of the newer Banos Turcos (Jan 25). Only $300 for the three hours if they do penetration, or $100 for as many blow jobs as you can handle. They are still trying to work out which (insert or blow) but looking at the cost my guess is it will be a blow job party.

One thing, its full penetration at most of the Banos Turcos for only S/.150 anyway!!

So Sly One may be reasonable with the Gringo Impuesta just as long as the sausage recipient doesn't ask for cien just prior to insertion!

(And if anyone wants to go in his place please PM me, although I do not know enough to recommed or otherwise except I think it is expensive.)

Suerte!

Polvo

TheCatsMeow88
01-20-08, 06:12
I have been to Lima some 20 times already .....and I am only in my mid-30's, met with the Great Sly One, and the crew ( not to mention names ) I have never met David33 or Lima Busy, yet they have offered lots of info and help when asked. Fellows lets keep this forum civilized and lets use this to promote what we do and not look what the others are doing, I love to fuck and also love to travel so lets go on with the f.cking and lets all get along... fellows Lima is big maybe if someone is doing something extra be smart and offer them condoms... instead of fighting, join each other find your niche and be happy... the Great John Sperm !!!!!!!Stop Ittttt.. now go on with the pics!!!
John S.,

Great advice and if everyone followed it there would be no issues. Though I have not done an official count, I would guess that over the past 12 months I have posted as many photos as anyone on the Peru board (In the combined Photo Gallery and Lima Thread). However, in the current poisoned environment, I just cannot be motivated or bothered to post anything so please excuse me if it takes me a while to act on your request.

The Cat

TheCatsMeow88
01-21-08, 22:44
I've probably seen it a dozen times. I believe I have even seen Jackson do it on occasion, not sure if it was on the ISG or AP, though. In most cases, I believe it shouldn't be posted, but I have seen some times where I do think it's appropriate.

There are some pretty serious allegations going around, and I think that they need to be handled in a level headed way.
JC,

I see from your profile that you have about 4 years and 1,700 posts of ISG experience on me. Therefore, I am going to take your word for it that there are scenarios where disclosing private correspondence between two members can be justified (Such as when a crime has been permitted, perhaps). Clearly, this is not one of them and I think we can both agree on that.

Yes, there are serious allegations flying around and I have an opinion on those also but will just zip it for now.

The Cat

Jaimito Cartero
01-21-08, 23:20
I see from your profile that you have about 6 years and 1,700 posts of experience on me. Therefore, I am going to take your word for it that there are scenarios where disclosing private correspondence can be justified. Clearly, this is not one of them and I think we can both agree on that.



Well, in the midst of the battle things get said and done that shouldn't. I like Giotto, and have stayed at his place in Bangkok. However, I recall that he posted private details one time in his thread, which he deleted after complaints. So, it just goes to show you that no one is perfect.

These type of battles have happened in many forums before. Some, such as the Thailand thread, had gotten to the point that it's not even enjoyable to read the threads any more. I think Jackson cleaned it up after awhile, but I still rarely read those forums, it has a lingering affect.

I'm all for being straightforward with financial details. There have been members like Roxanna in Argentina who give tours, and such who get hidden commissions and wouldn't disclose them, that I felt was a rip off. There were also allegations that a certain member was getting a free session with chicas when she got a certain number of clients referred to her.

I would have no problem if David got some free pussy out of the deals, but he says he doesn't and I have absolutely no reason to doubt him. As everyone knows, I'm a cheap bastard, so it's pretty hard to get much money out me anyway. :)

I felt I got good advice from David on places to stay, eat and fuck. I've been able to return the favor for other locations, and travel advice, so figure I've been able to return a little bit to him.

Lima Busy makes money off of his units, and that's fine as well, as long as everything is above board. I recall at one point he was pricing his units, at say, $45 a night, but based per person, and a double occupancy. I pointed out that this was not correct, and he should just show a per night charge, to avoid misunderstandings. I believe he has done so, making the true pricing clear to everyone.

I really don't have enough knowledge of the other combatants posts to decide one way or the other. I know when I voted on the other thread, it was to support David's position.

TheCatsMeow88
01-21-08, 23:55
Well, in the midst of the battle things get said and done that shouldn't. I like Giotto, and have stayed at his place in Bangkok. However, I recall that he posted private details one time in his thread, which he deleted after complaints. So, it just goes to show you that no one is perfect.

These type of battles have happened in many forums before. Some, such as the Thailand thread, had gotten to the point that it's not even enjoyable to read the threads any more. I think Jackson cleaned it up after awhile, but I still rarely read those forums, it has a lingering affect.

I'm all for being straightforward with financial details. There have been members like Roxanna in Argentina who give tours, and such who get hidden commissions and wouldn't disclose them, that I felt was a rip off. There were also allegations that a certain member was getting a free session with chicas when she got a certain number of clients referred to her.

I would have no problem if David got some free pussy out of the deals, but he says he doesn't and I have absolutely no reason to doubt him. As everyone knows, I'm a cheap bastard, so it's pretty hard to get much money out me anyway. :)

I felt I got good advice from David on places to stay, eat and fuck. I've been able to return the favor for other locations, and travel advice, so figure I've been able to return a little bit to him.

Lima Busy makes money off of his units, and that's fine as well, as long as everything is above board. I recall at one point he was pricing his units, at say, $45 a night, but based per person, and a double occupancy. I pointed out that this was not correct, and he should just show a per night charge, to avoid misunderstandings. I believe he has done so, making the true pricing clear to everyone.

I really don't have enough knowledge of the other combatants posts to decide one way or the other. I know when I voted on the other thread, it was to support David's position.
JC,

For me, this is not about apartment rentals, hooking up visitors to Lima, free pussy or who makes money out of the board. Both guys are transparent about what they do so I do not see why "live and let live" is not the order of the day.

What I am up in arms about, and have been from the very beginning of this sorry episode, is my right to post on the Peru board without being subjected to an unprovoked personal attack every time I do so. And the argument that I somehow clutter up the board with frivolous bullshit is, well...frivolous bullshit. Anyone who does not want to read what I have to say can put me on their ignore list and is encouraged to do so.

I provide information when someone asks a question within my scope of knowledge (which is, admittedly, limited as I do not live in Peru), post field reports and photos from my trips, and provide contacts to people who ask me and whom I trust.

Now can someone please explain to me why should I be censored or subjected to personal attacks?

The Cat

Jaimito Cartero
01-22-08, 01:16
what i am up in arms about, and have been from the very beginning of this sorry episode, is my right to post on the peru board without being subjected to an unprovoked personal attack every time i do so. and the argument that i somehow clutter up the board with frivolous bullshit is, itself, well...bullshit. anyone who does not want to see what i have to say can put me on their ignore list and is encouraged to do so.

maybe you really annoy the shit out of people? i don't know, and can only make a guess at that. i haven't read all the messages on the board, since you've come on, so it's a shot in the dark, at best. ;)

i've seen so many know-it-alls who come on to a forum, and basically take it over. by choosing to ignore someone, it might work fine for you, but a cancerous poster will just make everyone with something to actually contribute go somewhere else. from david's reaction, this seems to be what he feels you're doing. and even though it's not his forum, i'm sure that he wishes only the best for the quality users of this forum.

then people who have an axe to grind, will reinforce your side, when all they want to do is attack david, but not get in trouble for it. everyone can bring all sorts of personal stuff into the argument, but it really doesn't solve anything.

a few years back, there was a hugely divisive argument about a guy who had slept with some **** girls in thailand. supposedly he found out later that they had fake id's, but still posted pictures of them, and talked about it. if it happened in lima, then hopefully the op learned something from it. i think it's best to put it behind, ask for id, and if doesn't look right, then don't take the chica.

TheCatsMeow88
01-28-08, 20:21
Hey,

I've never been to Peru but putting a trip together at the end of Febuary with a friend. I have been reading the report but still need some info on where I should stay. I like apartments but it seems the guys here that rent them have them sold out. Here is what I would like to accomplish while in Peru. I would like to be close to bars and shopping in miraflores (unless someone has a better idea). I like reguar bars and really not much into p4p other than maybe slipping in a bar for a drink when bored and telling the girls they charge too much in an attempt to better the prices for you guys that frequent these establishments. I like tennis and I like to surf or anything with being outside during the day that involves breaking a sweat. I guess I should see machu picchu while there so how does one get there from Lima? I read somewhere that there are some cool little beach towns south of Lima for surfing and partying, does anyone have any names. Also if anyone wants to take us on a tour or get together for a drink please don't hesitate to pm me. Oh; yes I do speak spanish and I will continue reading the report. How about a cheat sheet for a newbie?

Thanks
Barefoot Chap,

The first thing you should do is contact Lima Busy to see if he has any availabilty or cancellations for his apartments. The location of the apartments is ideal for the Miraflores bars and shopping you want to be close to.

Lima Busy also has a driver called Manuel who speaks good English and is a keen surfer. He will be able to point you in the right direction concerning outdoor activities such as surfing and tennis. I can tell you thet there are 2 tennis clubs within walking distance of LB's apartments. You are going to Lima at the right time of year for outdoor activities.

Manuel has also be known to act as a tour guide for an appropriate fee.

The Cat

PS I have never been to Macchu Picchu but you will have to travel to Cusco (Probably by plane) to get there. There is tons of very useful information on how to organize a Macchu Picchu trip in the Cusco thread.

Member #4351
02-01-08, 00:34
Have fun...

Tiny 12
02-01-08, 04:03
That tells me all I need to know about how Jackson operates.
Cat, Respectfully, you were asking for it. I can't imagine this site making money with voluntary contributions and no advertising, and can see how the administrator could get fed up when he's providing a play pen for us and someone kicks dirt in his face:

Jackson,
Consistent with your previous actions and the reproduced comment above, I respectfully request that the photos recently posted in this thread be moved to the newly created "Non Pro Chica" thread. Failure to do this will be interpreted by me as an unwillingness on your part to administer the board in a manner consistent with your previous actions.

Jackson - shame on you for nominating this bile for a Report of Distinction.

Admin
02-01-08, 16:04
All,

I lost the voteWrong again Cat.

1. It wasn't a vote, it was an opinion survey.

2. As I have already told you repeatedly, you can have your own sub-forum if you want it. You are the one that rejected this option.

Thanks,

Jackson

Jaimito Cartero
02-01-08, 17:18
Can you lock two people in one forum? Maybe Cat vs Nibu? :D

Member #4351
02-08-08, 22:30
"The public ass-kissing is what irritated me the most about the ISG Lima thread, especially since I know from first-hand experience how it comes about."

That´s for sure.

Ezinho
02-08-08, 23:54
As a result, this is probably my last post in ISG.
Well, at least this promise lasted a whole week before it was broken!

Ezinho
02-09-08, 20:36
Ezinho,

I suggest that you go back to school in order to improve your command of the English language, since you are clearly incapable of comprehending what you read. And since your understanding of English is somewhat lacking, let me spell it out for you; where the fuck did I promise anything to anyone in the post you referenced?

The Cat
Geez, I was just kidding around, really. It seemed like you were upset with the way the forum is run and were not going to post here on the ISG anymore, that's all. I guess I was wrong.

You do realize you've been contained to your own thread like Nibu Raphael, right? Thus, there is no reason to take the posts in your section so seriously.

But I apologize if I hit a nerve. Good luck in your new forum.

Artisttyp
02-10-08, 22:35
Piper1,

I would move somewhere else like Perutops (which I think is ok to mention since everyone pretty much knows about it and browses it anyway). I understand that Perutops has an English section now so it is a real possibility if things do not work out in my current home.
The Cat


The english section of perutops is lagging. At least it was when I was doing research for my month stay in lima. The spanish section has excellent information however you need to decipher alot of peruvian slang.

I think piper's previous post sums it all up. I agree with it 100%. I wasn't crazy about your non pfp posts but you do have the ability to give other bits of good information. You should share those abilities with people who can do the same for you.

It doesn't make sense to fight when all we are trying to do is get each other laid.

Admin
02-11-08, 18:57
Greetings Everyone,

I doubt that this comes as a surprise to anyone, but I am not going to permit TheCatsMeow88 to use my forum to incessantly criticize me, chastise other members, promote my competitor's websites, and otherwise waste my bandwidth. What I find particularly galling is his complaints about the Forum's subscription price considering that as a Senior Member he has NEVER paid a penny to use the Forum.

Consequently, I have deleted a number of TheCatsMeow88's recent "reports". In addition, TheCatsMeow88 is now limited to posting information and factual accounts of his personal mongering experiences, and is specifically not permitted to post comments, opinions, stories, or any other text regarding other Forum Members or the Forum Membership in general.

Thanks,

Jackson