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I have traveled extensively in Isaan (which has several different spellings), and I have had many, many very memorable experiences. One of my last experiences was in Ban Dung, near Udon Thani. I stayed at a new resort called MODERN BAN DUNG outside of Ban Dung on the main road coming from Udon Thani. It is on the left. Chalets are quite nice, and the larger one are 700 baht (I might me off 50 baht or so). Modern, western toilets, clean, big beds, and only about 150 feet from the karaoke bar stocked with some of the finest looking your girls I have see.......except for the massage and karaoke place next to the Ton Koon Hotel in Udon Thani. I went there on a Sunday night, which is an off night for customer turnout, but the girls show up as usual. I was introduced by the sister of the owner's Thai wife to a very young (22, I think) and slim cutie who sat with me for about an hour or so, then we went to my chalet where she spent the night with me. Next morning I was treated to a free breakfast. Very low key place, friendly, clean, not expensive, and I was the only farang there. Not many customers that night. It is a new resort, and they just finished digging a very deep pond hole. When they finish landscaping, it will be a lovely place.
I have stayed here twice for a total of about 10 days. Inexpensive (for me anyway) at 700 baht/day and the rooms are quite nice. One of the qualities about this hotel is the staff are very friendly and tolerant of bringing in girls, or girls going up to rooms unescorted. The reason for this is that the hotel management also runs the massage/karaoke next door. I used to like to sit in the hotel dining room next to the large picture windows overlooking the massage place. About 5pm the girls start showing up for work at the karaoke place......and they are georgeous......short skirts and high heels. The massage place is loaded with at least 30 girls, most of whom are also souai. Oil massages are readily available, and if you play your cards right, you can get the girls back up to your room after they finish work.....and set up regular oil massages in your room for much less baht (minus management commission). Same with karaoke girls. I will try to upload a photo of one of my favorite girls. If I am unsuccessful, message me and I will send to via email. I hope more of you share your Isaan experiences in here, because it is a region rich in potential experiences, and loaded with souai women....I was unsuccessful.
Can anyone here recommend at least one hot spot in Buriram?(3-holers preferrably) I was there last year on a very short stay unfortunately. I'll be in that region this coming week.
Meatman,
Re Buriram:
Each and every Isaan three holer makes her money in BKK, Patts or down South. Your chances of finding the one that stayed behind are slim at best.
The Buriram RWS girls offer good solid bonks and and some wrap around lips, but that's about it. Bring B200 (or B300 if you're a stranger to them).
There are a few places on the road that runs West from the clock tower. Continue until after the bend in the road (it goes left after a while) and stroll on. Said places are then on your left before you get to the traffic lights. Better not expect too much in terms of, ehhhr, anything.
Anyways: Enjoy!
In a previous report, I mentioned the Modern Ban Dung Resort outside of Ban Dung.....near Udon Thani. Though I have another more intimate pic of my young friend, I choose only to show this one. It was a fun night ... karaoke bar........something warm and soft beside me.
Much as I have partaken of the girls from Isaan, have never been there. I have a business trip that takes me to a base in Udon Thani for three days in September 2008.
I have read the thread thus far.
Ideally, I would like to order ahead for a cutey as in this thread:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=94435
(and thank you Oosik1 keep up the keep up and the good work)
But I am a fan of the pursuit and selection, so any general advice to me would be good. I will research in the meantime.
I will copy and paste my report from a few weeks ago about Khon Kaen:
Khon Kaen
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My last visit a few weeks ago to Khon Kaen was the best ever. Khon Kaen has more nightlife than before. The best spot to find a short time (or long time) girl is at the farang bars.
Eric's bar.
Many girls (no bar girls) were there. There was a large group of Germans who were working on a paper factory. It attracted many girls from outside to get some part of the action (money). All guys had their fun and there were many girls to choose from.
Leo's bar.
Was a little quiet. But the bar girls were willing and you could arrange a short time after the bar was closed.
Steak house 23.
Here was my luck. One of the waitresses named Jeab (blonded hair and golden tooth) was attracted to me. She was willing to come to my hotel room (Sofitel hotel, best choice) but I had to walk first and she would follow so nobody would find out. She was great (best sex I ever had in Thailand) but after the deed she started talking about her financial problems. She was going to university to study as a nurse and she needed (of course) money. I gave her 1500 bt which made her very happy and off she went in the night. Unfortunately I didn't have chance to stay very long so we met only shortly. I wish I had stayed longer for this gem.
Villa Massage
Prices differ on quality of the girls. I was happy though with all the cheapest girls. All was included in the price.
Ceasars Massage
Comparable to Villa, but better girls and slightly more expensive.
Lily Massage
Good price (1000 Baht for sex one hour) or 300 Baht for massage 2 (?) hours..and then negotiate for sex ended up to 1000 Baht extra for the sex. Nice to spend more time for only 300 bt.
Nice report, Sofitel is GF, any other hotels you would recommend?
I will copy and paste my report from a few weeks ago about Khon Kaen:
Khon Kaen
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My last visit a few weeks ago to Khon Kaen was the best ever. Khon Kaen has more nightlife than before. The best spot to find a short time (or long time) girl is at the farang bars.
Eric's bar.
Many girls (no bar girls) were there. There was a large group of Germans who were working on a paper factory. It attracted many girls from outside to get some part of the action (money). All guys had their fun and there were many girls to choose from.
Leo's bar.
Was a little quiet. But the bar girls were willing and you could arrange a short time after the bar was closed.
Steak house 23.
Here was my luck. One of the waitresses named Jeab (blonded hair and golden tooth) was attracted to me. She was willing to come to my hotel room (Sofitel hotel, best choice) but I had to walk first and she would follow so nobody would find out. She was great (best sex I ever had in Thailand) but after the deed she started talking about her financial problems. She was going to university to study as a nurse and she needed (of course) money. I gave her 1500 bt which made her very happy and off she went in the night. Unfortunately I didn't have chance to stay very long so we met only shortly. I wish I had stayed longer for this gem.
Villa Massage
Prices differ on quality of the girls. I was happy though with all the cheapest girls. All was included in the price.
Ceasars Massage
Comparable to Villa, but better girls and slightly more expensive.
Lily Massage
Good price (1000 Baht for sex one hour) or 300 Baht for massage 2 (?) hours..and then negotiate for sex ended up to 1000 Baht extra for the sex. Nice to spend more time for only 300 bt.
Pardon my ignorance, but what is so special about the Isaan women, that all of you rave about?
Is is perhaps that special skill Freeler is refering to?
Each and every Isaan three holer makes her money in BKK, Patts or down South.
If so, I'll be relocating to Isaan...
I'm just arriving at the Tom Koon Hotel. I'll give a report in a few days. I've heard good reviews about the place, the location and the women. Wish me luck!
Chok dee khup, MeatMan. I think you will be very happy staying there. You will find the staff very friendly.....especially with a tip or two. :)
Same with the girls across the driveway between the hotel and karaoke/massage building. Some very lovely young women work at both places. Happy ending oil massages are available for a price you must negotiate with each girl, and a whole slew of girls to pick from off the tiered seating downstairs. Rooms are private and comfortable.
The lady singers in the main dining room are also very friendly, but I do not know if they are players. Smile, waai, and joke with them (the entire staff) and they will appreciate your presence. If you have time, somehow travel to Ban Dung northeast (I believe) of Udon Thani. Stay at the Modern Ban Dung Resort........karaoke and some very lovely "singers" there.
Meatman,
Re Buriram:
Each and every Isaan three holer makes her money in BKK, Patts or down South. Your chances of finding the one that stayed behind are slim at best.
The Buriram RWS girls offer good solid bonks and and some wrap around lips, but that's about it. Bring B200 (or B300 if you're a stranger to them).
There are a few places on the road that runs West from the clock tower. Continue until after the bend in the road (it goes left after a while) and stroll on. Said places are then on your left before you get to the traffic lights. Better not expect too much in terms of, ehhhr, anything.
Anyways: Enjoy!Thank Freeler. I know your infos are 1000% real. If you have update about "si saket" it s welcome.
Udon Thani Ain't bad guys!.
Having spent a couple of days at the Ton Koon Hotel, the staff were friendly. I would recommend this place to just about anyone. I'll go out on a limb and say that I am Black-American so, I definitely stuck out like a sore thumb and honestly I did feel somewhat uneasy.
The Karaoke girls?. I can honestly say that when they sing, hardly no one listens!.
I had a good massage from a 28 year old Thai-Lao girl who had the sweetest voice that would make a gay man go straight!. Location is off to the left and the sign is in green so, ya can't miss it.
Have you guys in Mr Tongs bar? Very popular with freelancers.The location is just right across the street from Robinsons/Chareonsri Center. I'd recommend it! Had a cute little spinner who never been with a black guy. Let just say she went home a *very* happy woman!. :D
Off to Laos guys!
MeatMan
Channy,
Latest Si Saket update is from January 2008:
Check out the mute and her 'red' head friend. They hang out at Santisuk Hotel and Si Saket Hotel. Be aware of a loud mouth nasty ***** intervering with all and everything.
Cost was still B200 plus tip for plus standard service. Red head wants more and she's right as far as I'm concerned - but YMMV as always.
Negotiated a 200bt fuck with a young lass in Surin, but when I asked her - in Thai - to give me a blow job she replied "Not hungry!"
Negotiated a 200bt fuck with a young lass in Surin, but when I asked her - in Thai - to give me a blow job she replied "Not hungry!"
Bumhole - next time, take your date to dinner AFTER the BJ.
M P Lurker
05-27-08, 12:06
Negotiated a 200bt fuck with a young lass in Surin, but when I asked her - in Thai - to give me a blow job she replied "Not hungry!"
You have aroused my Curiosity.
What Thai phrase did you use? Please attempt to spell the Thai words with Eng letters.
But I guess she was just being a little smarty.
Its a problem that there is no Thai dictionary specially for sex talk.
I guess we could use these phrases:
"smoking" a P4P girls' euphemism
tham aw-ran (do oral)
awm (to suck while in the mouth, e.g. a lolly).
chai bpaak (use the mouth)
Maybe not these:
doot (to suck - this one not commonly used but is used for vacuum cleaners).
joop (to suck in with the mouth but I haven't heard this word used sexually)
So "joop hooy" means to slurp in an oyster (rather than pussy).
bpao (to blow with the mouth - doesn't seem to be used - it probably is only used for blowing air)
You have aroused my Curiosity.
What Thai phrase did you use? Please attempt to spell the Thai words with Eng letters.
But I guess she was just being a little smarty.
Indeed she was trying to be clever.
I used the phrase I have used for years in Isaan. They don't seem to understand smoke, this being used mainly in Pattaya and Bangkok.
"Kin grador mai?"
Channy,
Latest Si Saket update is from January 2008:
Check out the mute and her 'red' head friend. They hang out at Santisuk Hotel and Si Saket Hotel. Be aware of a loud mouth nasty ***** intervering with all and everything.
Cost was still B200 plus tip for plus standard service. Red head wants more and she's right as far as I'm concerned - but YMMV as always.Thank Freeler for your advice,
Regards,
Channy
"Kin grador mai?"[/QUOTE]Anyway, as I might have to visit Surin next month, where did you find the girls?
Thanks alot!
That Asshole
07-07-08, 03:35
Surin big-sex story
As usual, I took out a "super luxurious" room at the Tong Tarin Hotel in Surin. Well, the hotel itself is nice enough, the room is passable but what matters is the action inside. It all follows below.
Have I told you? I am actually a king (but please keep this secret). One day while sitting on my white porcelain throne, I had a strange idea. I wondered what comes out of it. After a few heavy breaths I pushed real hard, and there was a sudden splashing sound. Then I felt as if immediately reaching high heavens. You know what it reminded me? Yes, "sex" it was. Heavy, satisfying climax, shooting out my high-pressure internal load into the face of the big free world. I had been working up to it for at least two weeks, so it made me super amazingly joyful.
----- However the obvious connection to "sex" did not cease to excite my little mind. Immediately I run down to the shop for a huge bunch of flowers. Placed it next to my beautiful lover and kissed her porcelain-wite skin all over. "I do really love you". I said to her. "You made me feel so happy. You are the source of my joy. " Every time I shot my load into her beautiful white body I felt like this. But it was the first time I bought her flowers. Until that time she always just looked and old, crackly toilet bowl to me. How wrong I had always been. She is actually a "woman"!
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To get back to ordinary life, it never ceases to amaze me how women of the world are being worshiped up to high Heavens. This seems like the institutionalized, official madness of our whole present condemned, dark world. Just shocking, mindblogging, fucking amazing. Everything: "Women, women, women. ". Why, why, why? When all they do is receiving our dirty, smelly excrements right out of our fat bodies, implanted into their own smelly bodies.
Is it worth all the fuss about them? It seems to me that "us" the sex-tourists are the only ones who look at them for what they really are: Mere recepticles of our own decaying internal discharges. Does this deserve all the madness about them? We could all have as many as we ever wanted IF we "men" could just unite for this single, noble purpose and put down the fights among us. Our fighting is what makes us slaves. (I know you knew that.)
So, there was plenty on my little mind while setting out to discover "the sex in Surin". Now you know the reason. Simply, justice and pride.
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Surin Thailand 2008
1. / General
Surin, located just another few hours busride from Khorat (180kms/3-4 hrs, see separate posting) is another lovely Isaan town with friendly locals and reasonable sex-action. Lacking the crowds and madness of Pattaya and Bangkok, indeed it will keep a dedicated sex-tourist interested for a couple of days.
And of course the keyword is "Cultural Sextourism" here. So many interesting things to do while in the region and sex only being as the way to keep ourselves free from female slavery. If you are full, they cannot control you any more. No surprise, that's why they hate sex-tourists so much. We refuse to serve them and refuse to fight each other for them. Sex-tourists do love peace. That's what we love.
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2. / Travel
Surin railway station is right in the city center with some connections to Bangkok, Khorat and Ubonracahatani. While services are not particularly frequent, the short run to Ubon is particularly convenient, taking just 2 hours by express diesel car. The bus station is also nearby and central. However Surin does not have many convenient bus services to anywhere, except to Khorat. There are a few departures but rather infrequent and timetables are only verbal by station staff. If you can find them.
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3. / Accomodation, food, miscellaneous issues
The cheapest hotel is possibly the old one right in front of the train station, 200B rooms. Some pricier but more quality ones with swimming pool just a short walk away, near the bus terminal, 800B and up. Plus a lot more hotels inside town, just a bit further. While locating food during the day is easiest near the railway. A bit further away, the Surin nightmarket is great in the evenings. Varied, cheap and delicious. What's more, there are two of them. Surin is worth a visit just for the food!
*** Elephants ***
While most people associate this town with elephants, it is unlikely you will come across any in the city during most of the year. One good time to see them is the annual Elephant Festival, however hotel prices increase three times and still all booked out this time. Regarding safety, you will notice the unusual high number of stray, dirty wagrants and drunks (male and female). Especially near the railway. Not really so many but still shows the powerty of the area. Yet, most of the time Surin is okay like any Thai city.
*** Farang ***
If you desire to meet other farangs (why would you? But just in case), there is a lively local cafe/bar population of them, mostly concentrated to a couple of restaurants near the bus station. You might even be surprised how many. Despite of this, there is a general strange feeling in Surin (indeed a strange feeling), as actual communication between Thais and westerners is very little. Thais will assume that you speak zero Thai and keep using hand signs all the time. When you see farang mixing with Thai is is mostly when one lone westerner man entertaining about 10-12 Thais (his extended family? ) in some restaurant. Apart from this, there is quite a bit of hustling from taxis everywhere. Sometimes it feels like Cambodia. (But really not that bad. No Khmers around, luckily.)
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4. / Surin Nightlife and Puss-puss
Account of one particular visit: It is easy to find tuktuks in Surin near the train station, just about any time. This is a smallish town and transport prices moderate. We agreed in 40B to look around, 40 to come back and 40 for waiting. After taking a few turns we drove towards Buriram, on #226 Hwy.
*** 280 B hookers ***
On one side there is a large entertainment place with live music, called "Kenjan" pub (sign only in Thai). Right opposite on the other side of the road is a small block of about 4-5 brothels (some open, others closed). Action starts quite late here, like 8-9pm. Mamasan seemed surprised by the farang at the first one. However price still just 280B, even for farang, no overcharging. I believe this must be the actual local price. Quality nothing to brag about, so I went to look at the others. Same-same. Finally found one younger looking chick for 400B.
The scene is more interesting than the fuck. Just being there and experiencing it is the thrill. And everybody is so nice. After this, returning to the train, I went to take a look at Surin's only soapie, the famous "Rozkwin". (More general info bits about soapies in BKK/Massage parlours section, posting on 1. 9. 08).
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*** Soapie Action ***
Being attached to the large Tong Tarin Hotel. They have one fishbowl with the display inside 3 women on the left for 1000B, three women on the right for 1300B, some young pretty chickens on the outside for 1700B. These looked allright. I picked a very tall, slim wearing some striped blue dress. Quite attractive. Papasan walking over to her and discussing something. After then returning to me and saying that this one costs 1900B! I just left it at that. Already had my fun for the day, anyway. (As I said, it is not just the sex, but the feeling of not being slave to women and seeing them sold for cash).
At the cheap brothels, the quality is not much worse as Soi Yoksad in Pattaya. But you don't have to chat with them (but you can if you want). Just point and pay. I wasn't hungry any more, so I said to the nice papasan boss- "It is not important. " and left. Interesting night anyway. And the night food market was a total winner. Surin is okay, just a nice, relaxing town. But it also has some things to do at night too. Worth having a look.
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END Surin 2008 report (incl. Map)
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Surin big-sex story
some young pretty chickens on the outside for 1700B. These looked allright. I picked a very tall, slim wearing some striped blue dress. Quite attractive. Papasan walking over to her and discussing something. After then returning to me and saying that this one costs 1900B! I just left it at that.
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I would have paid money to see the papasan's face when you walked out, obviously the discussion was about jacking up the price to what he perceived you would pay.
Willo
[QUOTE=Oosik1]Chok dee khup, MeatMan. I think you will be very happy staying there. You will find the staff very friendly.....especially with a tip or two. :) QUOTE]
Hey Guys
Going to make my first trip to Udon this November can any one give me an e-mail address, PIC, Directions to the Tom Koon Hotel?
Thanks
It is the TON (not TOM) Koon Hotel. Google Ton Koon Hotel or Udon Thani hotels. Say hi to the gals next door and have lots of sanuk. By the way, one of the front desk ladies (all of whom are very friendly) has the look of being half farang. She is quite lovely, and very friendly. She is the product of the USA military stationed in Udon Thani. She has never seen or heard from her father who apparently is in Tennessee with his Amercan family now. She is single (divorced) and has one child, I think. If you are looking for a wife candidate, she is top drawer in my book, although I did not date her....just was friends with her.
Hello,
I have been in udon in july. Tong is closed and moved to a new location. Many ladyboys , so beware a little bit if you are not up to this. Tong himself is a strange character. Famous among the local farang community. Udon offers much but you either need a guide who speak english or improve your own thai or laos. Many oppertunities but leave a pattaya attitude home.
Toon Koon hotel and yellow bird disco great places too ( beware of thai boys or thai boyfriends).
Wolverine gogo is a dull rip off place/ Avoid at any cost.
Ron Star
Udon Thani Ain't bad guys!.
Having spent a couple of days at the Ton Koon Hotel, the staff were friendly. I would recommend this place to just about anyone. I'll go out on a limb and say that I am Black-American so, I definitely stuck out like a sore thumb and honestly I did feel somewhat uneasy.
The Karaoke girls?. I can honestly say that when they sing, hardly no one listens!.
I had a good massage from a 28 year old Thai-Lao girl who had the sweetest voice that would make a gay man go straight!. Location is off to the left and the sign is in green so, ya can't miss it.
Have you guys in Mr Tongs bar? Very popular with freelancers.The location is just right across the street from Robinsons/Chareonsri Center. I'd recommend it! Had a cute little spinner who never been with a black guy. Let just say she went home a *very* happy woman!. :D
Off to Laos guys!
MeatMan
Around a week ago I visited Udon Thani again with some Thai colleagues. They enjoyed themselves adequately in the Sois (Sow Fie Dang and Soi 2), which were open inspite of the presence in town of that Austin Mini driving princess. We know she was there because her odd motorcade blocked our way, and we espied her.
For myself however, the visit was a disappointment. Though those two sois were open, and many of the houses have for more and much better looking girls then previously, the two girls I took - one from each soi - provided truely awful service. In Fie Dang the girl refused to do blow job - I had never heard of such a thing. She also refused condomless sex no matter what. This was somewhat less of a surprise, but anyway 300 baht down the drain. An hour later at Soi 2 I paid 500 baht for the girl that the pimp specified would do oral sex (only one out of a staff of a dozen, and not very attractive). She did the disgusting deed, but for the usual Thai three minutes and without any verve or ability like you can hope for with an american prostitute. Persuading her to do condomless cost me another 500 baht, but then she turned out to be one of those tiresome wincers - you know the type who act like sex is a horrible ordeal. So I couldn't finish.
Finally I checked out the farang bar complex which has reopened next to Top Mansion. Nothing worth doing there and of course high prices. At least soft drinks are still reasonable there, unlike Bkk. Ended up back at the hotel and masturbated. On the bright side the hotel was only 250 baht, and the food at Nomi's is excellent.
RCA Knight
08-13-08, 16:55
After 2 nights in BKK, I and my pal took Thai Airways to Khon Kaen. I liked to skip this place and go straight to Udon Thani, but my pal had some good memory from this city a few years back, he insisted to go there. Thai Air one way about 2500 bought from old Bangkok Airport.
We stayed at Kosa Hotel, walk in 1200 bahts. Took 2 rooms. Later we walked around the Sofitel areas and there was a street full of pubs nearby, and it was quiet on weekday. We went into some pubs and had some drinks and my pal started to chat with a semi cute PR girl, and exchanged her number.
Later we made our way to a bar called Rad, I also found a semi cute girl in a group of 3, I appraoched her, and she was friendly, I bought her and her friends some drinks, and slowly I found out she is probably a player, I just asked her directly to stay with me, and she said call her at 12, and gave me her number.
We went back and checked the Kosa massage parlour, all unattractive, maybe too late. The sideliners were quoted 1700, and 2000, not worth it at all. I called the Rad girl at 11:30, and asked her to come to my room, she showed up 30 min later.
A local Issan girl but with very white skin, I did not need to ask anything, just started hugging and started taking off her dress. She was very tight, maybe a new worker. Very brief bbbj, she said she doesn't like, stayed till about 3AM, then dressed to go, said need to go school tommorrow, I gave her 2000, she said thanks and gave me a wai and left, and told me to call her again.
Meanwhile my pal hunted in the bar area, and took home some student semi-pro girl for ST 1500. The first PR girl he chatted at the first club also called him at 2 AM, but he had finished his deeds, so leave her for next time.
Khon Kaen seems like lots of girls in bars and clubs are all working part time, even all the student girls there are willing to go for some pocket money if they like you.
Wow, 2,000 baht for overnight in Khon Kaen? Isn't that the price in Bangkok?
RCA Knight
08-14-08, 05:35
I was willing to get out Khon Kaen but when traveling with another pal, need to make some compromise. He wanted to stay one more night. That means we have one less night in Udon and maybe Nong Khai.
In the afternoon, we checked out the Kosa massage again, only about 6 standard and 5 sidelines. No interest for all. But the papasan promised to show us beautiful college girls later in our room. Told us about 8PM, he will arrange girls to show us.
After dinner at the shopping, papasan called us and told us to wait in the room, some other guy took 2 girls to our room, one was quite ok, face soso, but nice figure, so I took her at 2000. My friend wanted to see more girl, so the pimp arranged another 2 to come after 20 min to his room, he did not get any from the pimp papa, and went on to hunt on his own at bar street.
The girl was college girl, part timer, still very tight, but very inexperienced, some bbbj, the sex was boring, the only good thing is she is very fresh to me, thats it for KK, out tommorrow. Amazing how many part time college workers in this city.
Amazing how many part time college workers in this city.
Not really when you consider that their customers are almost exclusively well-off Thais so it isn't nearly so unpleasant as having to sleep with farangs. Farang customers are a rarity for these girls. Also keep in mind that a lot of Thai college girls only recieve a few thousand baht per month in allowance from their parents - that enormous fee you're paying, even if they only get half, is a big boost to the monthly budget. (Male students typically recieve a much larger allowance).
RCA Knight
08-14-08, 13:31
Opebo is right, 2000 bahts is amazing sum here in upcountry. I think these fresh college girls mostly deal with rich Thai guys as Opebo said, and I think they don't get too many customers from they way they act and still enjoy sex.
We met some Thai guys in a bar in Khon Kaen, he said these delivery college girls charge 1500-2000 even to Thai customers, some cutie even more than that, and the pimp usually get 300-500 for a delivery. 2000 is quite expensive for these part of country, but these part time college workers only deal with rich Thais especially the ones out of town and sometimes foriegn customers, but rare I think.
There are also unattractive delivery girls in Khon Kaen for 1000 or less, and girls from lady houses or local cheap karaokes for 800-1000 ST, but these young and cuter ones sell around 2000 to Thais as well. So I confirmed this with some local guy in a bar. But 2000 bahts is hard to get a fresh gal in Bangkok, I think in BKK, cuter college part timers are rarely on the market, mostly have sponsors or exclusively deal with high end Thai market. So its still cheaper than BKK in this sense.
I was willing to get out Khon Kaen but when traveling with another pal, need to make some compromise. He wanted to stay one more night. That means we have one less night in Udon and maybe Nong Khai.
In the afternoon, we checked out the Kosa massage again, only about 6 standard and 5 sidelines. No interest for all. But the papasan promised to show us beautiful college girls later in our room. Told us about 8PM, he will arrange girls to show us.
After dinner at the shopping, papasan called us and told us to wait in the room, some other guy took 2 girls to our room, one was quite ok, face soso, but nice figure, so I took her at 2000. My friend wanted to see more girl, so the pimp arranged another 2 to come after 20 min to his room, he did not get any from the pimp papa, and went on to hunt on his own at bar street.
The girl was college girl, part timer, still very tight, but very inexperienced, some bbbj, the sex was boring, the only good thing is she is very fresh to me, thats it for KK, out tommorrow. Amazing how many part time college workers in this city.Hi,
"That means we have one less night in Udon and maybe Nong Khai"
Stay put ...At the moment the Mekong has overflowed and some of Nong Khai is underwater. Nong khai is not a great mongering destination, better off in Udon.
Good luck!
Pedro917
Great reports about a relatively unknown scene, RCAKnight. I've tried precisely that type of girl in another central Isaan college town - Maha Sarakham - and reported on it. The price there seemed to be 1,500, though that was a year or so back.
RCA Knight
08-15-08, 14:41
We arranged a mini van from some travel agent near Kosa Hotel, took us to Udon for 800 bahts, 1.5 hour drive.
We stayed Charoensi Grand, reserved online for 1250. Some bell boys wanted to get ladies for us, but we refused and wanted to explore ourselves.
After dinner, we walked into the lady house soi, it was not like before, most houses are closed, and some opened ones heavily guarded by bunch of pimps and some are quite mean looking, we checked out these few open houses.
The standard has gone down, mostly chubby little girls, we could not find anyone sexy enough in several houses, then we walked back to the main street, then a pimp wanted to take us to see more girls, so we followed him into a soi, its like a ST hotel establishment in some dark soi, and told us to wait in the parking of the ST hotel.
2 min later, he and other boys brought four girls on motocycles for us to see, they are all okay, not spetacular, I picked one, my pal wanted to see more, so 2 min later, they changed another 4, and he also picked one, all are doable but nothing to be excited, price 800 for my friend, and they said my gal is 1000, a new comer, and we wanted to go back to our hotel, okay, they said will deliver to us in 15 min, so we took tuk tuk back first.
They delivered to my room in about 10 min. My girl was shy and obvious very fresh from Laos, she gave me bbbj, and gradually I feel a strong burning sensation on my dickhead, then I feel more and more burning, she told me she ate spicy somtam, crap, i had to go to shower to wash off my somtam spice off my dick, then went back to screw her, it was enjoyable, very fresh indeed, soaking wet for 1000 bahts. Thats good enough.
Gave her extra 200 for more somtam. That was my first night.
RCA Knight
08-16-08, 15:15
This Thai country is so convienient to get ladies. Every tuk tuk driver, samlor conductor, hotel bellboy, front desk, karaoke mamasan and papasan, night club concierges or doormen ect, all will get ladies for you, you just wait in the hotel room for lineup to show up, what other country has this convinience.
The hotel bellboy has been bugging us for 2 days, he kept promising beautiful young ladies to us. We told him to bring them over. I think he asked his friend to bring ladies over. First lineup 4 girls, all Thais girls, all under 20 and school kids according to them, actually they are all doable, but I only interested in one, my pal wanted to see more, the pimp man said okay and asked for 40 bahts gasoline fee, so I kept one of the girls. The guy wanted 2000, but I pretend I won't pay and want to see how much they go down, I said I only pay 1500,then the lady discussed with him,i guess about commission, they both refused and quite firm said 1800 at least, I agreed, just pretend I care for this few hundred bahts.
Then we waited for next lineup, 15min later,he came back with another 3 ladies, 1 of them is really cute even in my tough standard, my pal was drooping allover already, and he showed his weakness,then the pimp saw my pal was getting hard on and tried to scam him 2500, and said this one new comer and never worked, but I told him to hold firm,same price or nothing, we won, 1800 a piece, ladies later said commsion to the pimp 400 each and the pimp has to give 200 to the bellboy.
My lady was Thai local girl, not Lao lady, again she said she is school girl and only work about once a week or less. I can tell she has such a low milege, a little thrust into pussy make her moan like a virgin and wet with dripping cum.
Her body was my taste,slender and some tits, some bbbj, but her teeth was hurting my dick, very inexperinced, very girlfriendly, she likedto hug, and like to be fingered,so still very amature.
My pal received a Lao girl, very beautiful, almost no English,so after thier act, they came to my room and she told me in Thai she is student in Vientiane and come over only on weekends to work, she doesn't look like the brothel girl, and after the sex,both girls are not in hurry to go, I was thinking to pound the Lao girl, my hidden desire became known to her easily, she agreed, while my pal sent the other girl down stairs.
The Lao girl is still very young, the body was so silky, pinkish both up and down there, the body proportion was amazing, without telling, she started to blow me, I got so horny,and asked her to let me cum in her mouth, she agreed but said no drink ok, I said Ok, she blew me to come in her mouth while licking my head as I cum, not too many workers nowadays do this, unless she is still fresh and naive like this one, or some sex maniac.
I was thinking how to reward her, I asked her to stay over night, but she said she can stay till 1AM, and said her sister waiting in the room, I licked her whole body for a long time, the skin tone was so nice so soft and flexible, have not licked this level for a long time,I gave her 2000 for her tuition and scholarship.
What a good life here in some third world upcountry, just sit in the hotel room, and all kinds of people competing to bring you lineups after lineups of girls, all young and so fresh.
Joe Nailer
08-16-08, 16:28
This Thai country is so convienient to get ladies. Every tuk tuk driver, samlor conductor, hotel bellboy, front desk, karaoke mamasan and papasan, night club concierges or doormen ect, all will get ladies for you, you just wait in the hotel room for lineup to show up, what other country has this convinience.
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What a good life here in some third world upcountry, just sit in the hotel room, and all kinds of people competing to bring you lineups after lineups of girls, all young and so fresh.
RCA Knight,
A good report, tempts me to explore that area next time I am in LOS.
What sort of place/area did you stay? Any names?
"Delivery hotel" reminds me of the Tokyo scene for which you gave me some directions. Thanks for that. But I was very disappointed to say the least though. I commented at that time that Japan should be very service orientated country. I was so wrong. Anyway I can hear some hardened readers whispering "this IS the Thailand thread"... :)
Cheers
Good lord that is some serious price inflation you are abetting in the 'hotel-delivery' scene there, RCAKnight. I've never paid over 1,000 bhat short time for very cute girls in Udon Thani hotel deliveries. (Btw, how can you tell they're wet if you're wearing a condom?)
Do keep in mind, Need More Gas and others considering the trip - service is almost always abominable upcountry. If you can get off only on eye candy you'll do ok, but if you require any kind of decent service you'll be terribly frustrated by the trip.
RCA Knight
08-17-08, 06:03
In every Issan Town, every hotel bell boy or hotel front desk clerk will get you ladies 24 hours a day. In Udon Thani, the under 1000 Bahts girls are mostly from the brothels and mostly lady Laos. They are connected with tuk tuk drivers and hotel bellboys.
The Thai younger and cuter ones and many are local school girls go around 1500-2000, and medocre ones as Opebo said sell 1000 or less, and the bellboy always said to me he also knows some super cutie school girls but wanted 2500, never interested seeing them, when the pimp bring a lineup of 3 or 4, the price may vary as well, its a market economy, the cuter one seems want more, and not willing to give too much commission to the pimp.
If you are looking for under 1000 bahts or even 500 bahts delivery girls, just ask any tuk tuk driver in town or any hotel bell boy to bring you a whole bunch of mediocre chubby little lady Laos, but if you specify you want slender cuter young babes, normally the rate is higher, because the girl herself want to sell more, even lady Laos have different pricings, the younger cuter ones or new comers always sell more, not really the pimp want more commission.
I stayed in many hotels here before, like Charoensi Grand, Charoen hotel, Udon Hotel, Toon Koon Hotel, Karin Hotel ect ect, all hotel staff are very willing to bring you ladies, and every single tuk tuk in town will bring you ladies to your room.
About japanese hotel health, to me, I had in my life countless sessions in Tokyo, Sapporo, and Kansai, but I never had a failed session, all girls are generally very GF and very much accommodating. I think most experts in this field in Japan forum feel the same.
PS. Not all Lao or Thai girl will feel easy with foriegners In Udon Thani, most of them are not used to see any type of foreign customers, the past I had girls that were so shy with foriegners, and wanted to leave, or some scared just lied in bed grinding the teeth, so be observant and try to see which one feel more relaxed with you.
Joe Nailer
08-17-08, 11:04
It seems the p4p in this town is well structured. Personally I dont mind spending 2000+bht as that is the amount I would be required to spend in BKK. But I understand the Opebo's concern. Once the price goes up to that level and established at that level, it is unlikely to come down. And that would hurt Opebo. ;)
As for Japan scene IIkebukuro, Tokyo), and as for the provider named Saki, she looked stunning. I would give a 10/10 as far as her face goes. But when I saw her body, I was struggling to get a hard-on. Besides that it was Mother's day. Saki said she wanted to see her mother early that night. It cost me 15,000JPY (some 150USD) for such a feeble session. Next time...
It seems the p4p in this town is well structured. Personally I dont mind spending 2000+bht as that is the amount I would be required to spend in BKK. But I understand the Opebo's concern. Once the price goes up to that level and established at that level, it is unlikely to come down. And that would hurt Opebo. ;)
Not so much, as I only rarely monger in Udon Thani anymore, due to the poor service. Service upcountry is usually abominable.
I was told by my female rental car driver that the Full Moon bar or karaoke (not sure which) is a very good place to find good looking girls in Udon Thani. Has anyone been there?
By the way, I have had very good luck with the lady drivers I hire to chauffeur me around in new places. Rent a car and driver for 2 days and you can end up with not only a car and driver, but a warm body for overnight.
RCA Knight
08-17-08, 15:38
The Full Moon bar is a hostess bar type of establishment. All local Thai girls, and they don't go with you at Opebo's price, I have been there once, and these hostess go for at least 1500 and cuter ones want 2000-2500, not worth it. I heard only weekend nights are busy with more part time workers.
The afternoon, we ventured into the lowest of low lady house alley, soi Fai Deng, Opebo must love the pricing here, its 100-200 more than before, still 300-400 bahts in filthy pig sty room, bathroom outside, and run the risk of losing your walet when you step outside to the rain dripping shower room to clean your dick, we just took a walk looked around, and most houses were closed, some pimps invited us in, and still most of them are not attractive, maybe the atmosphere make them even look worse, but I found one that was quite okay, and papasan said just arrived 1 week ago, and wanted 500.
I asked him to take out to hotel, but the papasan refused this one, said afraid of trouble, but most others are okay to take out, but no one attractive, and most of them looked sad, so would be terrible sex I can imagine, we left.
Later we checked out the Udon Hotel's masage, there were 3 in fish tank section and 5 in sideline, sell for 1700 in sideline, no one was worth the price, but papasan said he has a very cute girl, but he has to call, but price 2500,
i told him if I don't like I won't take, he said no problem, about 20 min later she came, the body was really nice but face so so, we won't take her, we left again.
Went to eat and saw some Olympic and took a nap, then we decided to go disco hunt for freelancers. We went to High Tech, its a huge bar disco entertainment area with many bars and disco, we shop around different bars, and saw many many potential freelancers.
Very late hour, outside the bars, I talked some girls, and one of them was quite okay, white skin and nice body, she was with 3 other girls, all looking for some pocket money I thought so, asked her to go back with me, she asked me if I give her tip, I said okay, she said 2000, but I said I paid 1500 all the times, she was okay as well, left my pal behind the disco and took a tuk tuk back.
The Udon's disco have lots of girl groups, all looking for some pocket money, but be careful to see if there is any Thai guy accompany them, I would think in any Udon disco, girl 2-3 in groups are all available with some money.
My girl said she was from Nong Khai the border area, but Thai national. Quite accommodating, gave me good bbbj, and let me lick her nice pussy, after sex, she took me to a night market to eat some noodle, and stayed with me till next noon, gave me 2 shots, I gave her extra 500. It was a nice finale.
Bye bye Udon Thani, back to the real financial chaos in the real world.
Bye bye Udon Thani, back to the real financial chaos in the real world.Thanks a lot for these informative and entertaining updates RCA Knight. Good luck in the real world!
I was told by my female rental car driver that the Full Moon bar or karaoke (not sure which) is a very good place to find good looking girls in Udon Thani. Has anyone been there?
Full Moon DID have some cute girls. Alas, it was closed by the Authorities :(
Full Moon DID have some cute girls. Alas, it was closed by the Authorities :(
Now I must ask WHY?
Now I must ask WHY?Full Moon in Udon Thani was open when I was there July 10 and 11. I talked to the owner at that time and it sounded like she was staying. There had been rumors of her selling. If it closed, it has closed since July 11.
Full Moon in Udon Thani was open when I was there July 10 and 11. I talked to the owner at that time and it sounded like she was staying. There had been rumors of her selling. If it closed, it has closed since July 11.
Oops! Sorry, for spreading false information. When I left Udon in May it was alive and kicking but I got the information from somebody who has just returned from Udon.
I called a local friend to check and he confirmed what Paul2020’s said. It hadn’t closed but the owner wanted to sell to move to Australia.
Andre Cuipers
08-23-08, 18:55
I red a lot of reports how to find gogo bars in Khorat and fun in Khon kaen.
I was in Khorat and Kohn Kaean August 18-19 (2008)
Beleive me. There is NOTHING TO FIND in Khorat (we where there August 10). I stayed "in the middle of the sex" namely Khorat Hotel.
Opposite Khorat hotel was Nothing!
At the central park NOTHING can be find at the evening (noboddy on the street at all! )
Only at some hotels (also at the Khorat hotel) there are clubs where you can talk with ladies and buy drinks and maybe maybe after a lot og money you can take them out. I asked all different names of gogo bars found on this site but one was closed and the other was a massage parlour.
Same (boaring) counts for Khon Kaen, should be "a scene at the Sofitel making the trip worth a visit". Beleive me. There is a big disco for younger once left of the Sofitel and at the.1 level again an empty bar where you can put your wallet far open to talk with a girl but nothing to see, also not on the street.
A waist of time.
In Pattaya I fall over the streetwalkers at the boulevard, already at 2 pm. And in the sun tou could see that there are pretty once also.
Also a lot of fun in gogo bars for 40-55 bath a beer and naked pussies in Pattaya. Bangkok was boaring and much more expensive (90-120 bath a drink).
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You are right Andre Cuipers - Issan is awful for mongering, and the only people who should do it is those of us who are stuck here and sometimes can't get to Pattaya for a while. It makes little sense to travel to the Northeast - there is simply nothing worth having there.
Just the other night I was at a very poor and ratty brothel in Isaan - I won't say precisely where - and the girl I'd seen months before was out, so I took one who was a surprisingly attractive 35 year old. Everyone else in there was much older. The normal price for the hags was 300 baht, but this one demanded 500. She then insisted on a condom, which I tried briefly - how do you gentlemen withstand such things? I could not feel a thing and certainly could not attain an orgasm, even after extended insensate banging.
Finally I had to resort to the humilation of a hand job to get my 500 baht's worth. The impertinent creature even had the nerve to ask repeated for a 'tip', holding out her greedy hand! I can assure you brothers that she did not get one.. if only I could have retrieved some of my lost funds wasted on this horrible experience.
This is the sort of thing one finds in Issan - the only ones who would blow you are old hideous hags, and even 30-somethings think they're 'the shit'. Pretty young girls are available for huge prices of course (1,500-2,500), but the service is abominable. The only place which offers anything even slightly better is Udon Thani, where attractive youngish Lao girls are available for 300-500, but there as well the almost unbelievably bad service makes an orgasm unlikely, and any sensual pleasure impossible.
Stick to Pattaya while it lasts, brothers.
Joe Nailer
08-24-08, 08:10
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This is the sort of thing one finds in Issan - the only ones who would blow you are old hideous hags, and even 30-somethings think they're 'the shit'. Pretty young girls are available for huge prices of course (1,500-2,500), but the service is abominable.
Stick to Pattaya while it lasts, brothers.
Obepo sir,
While I appreciate your comments as to how bad their services are in the northeast even for an equivalent payment to BKK, is there any chance that you can post some example photos of "hideous" women as you describe? I suppose "hideous" means "hideous". But I just need to get an idea, so that I wont waste my time visiting that area.
Cheers
M P Lurker
08-24-08, 10:16
I heard that a guy who used to spend his time in Khon Kaen with lots of bargain ladies around has now moved on to live in Phnom Phen which is even cheaper. Maybe Khon Kaen has gone downhill or maybe he just became too well known.
I haven't mongered in Khon Kaen myself (except for a Khon Kaen girl that I already knew), so its only heresay.
Obepo sir,
While I appreciate your comments as to how bad their services are in the northeast even for an equivalent payment to BKK, is there any chance that you can post some example photos of "hideous" women as you describe? I suppose "hideous" means "hideous". But I just need to get an idea, so that I wont waste my time visiting that area.
Well, I never take a photo. I'm a 'live in the moment' kind of guy - perhaps because most of my moments are best forgotten!
But they are quite unattractive, and few make up for it with a winning personality - the fake friendliness level is far, far less in Issan than in Pattaya. The girls are a lot more like hookers back home - cold, hard, and mean. To be fair, even though I'm a skeptic and find most Thai friendless to be fake, I think the girls in Pattaya are much more relaxed, and enjoying life. To live as a prostitute in a town of prostitutes is a lot more comfortable than being one of only a few 'bad girls' in a normal conservative Thai town.
Really though, the insatiably curious should go have a look for themselves, as no one wants to believe it till they see it.
Joe Nailer
08-24-08, 15:28
Well, I never take a photo. I'm a 'live in the moment' kind of guy
Ok, you must have well adapted to the Thai way of life then. :o
perhaps because most of my moments are best forgotten!
Thanks. That is one way of describing the "hideous". I didnt realise how bad they look/behave. I think Ive got the idea.
But they are quite unattractive, and few make up for it with a winning personality - the fake friendliness level is far, far less in Issan than in Pattaya. The girls are a lot more like hookers back home - cold, hard, and mean. To be fair, even though I'm a skeptic and find most Thai friendless to be fake, I think the girls in Pattaya are much more relaxed, and enjoying life. To live as a prostitute in a town of prostitutes is a lot more comfortable than being one of only a few 'bad girls' in a normal conservative Thai town.
Really though, the insatiably curious should go have a look for themselves, as no one wants to believe it till they see it.
I mean, we men live in/visit a country they haven't got positive views on them, but for cheap pussies and never ending quest for the better services, men go extraordinary lengths to find what they want. Ummm...
Yes, "1 picture is worth a 1000 words" and probably "1 f*** is worth a 1000 pictures" :)
But they are quite unattractive, and few make up for it with a winning personality - the fake friendliness level is far, far less in Issan than in Pattaya. The girls are a lot more like hookers back home - cold, hard, and mean. To be fair, even though I'm a skeptic and find most Thai friendless to be fake, I think the girls in Pattaya are much more relaxed, and enjoying life. To live as a prostitute in a town of prostitutes is a lot more comfortable than being one of only a few 'bad girls' in a normal conservative Thai town.
For once Opebo, I disagree with you.
The Isaan women are certainly not as attractive overall as those plying their trade in Pattaya and in general are either less experienced or less willing to perform certain tasks, although far more are prepared to go without a condom.
However, in my experience I have never found them to be cold, hard an mean-rather the opposite. They are mostly fun, not clock watchers, and most are willing to be taught new tricks. On the contrary, Pattaya girls have hardened considerably over the past 20 years, and are now little more than mechanical money grabbers!
As Opebo says, "Stick to Pattaya while it lasts, brothers." I will try very hard to pick up the slack in Esan.
Visited Kosa with a fellow farang instead of Thais and the price was now around 1,700 for the dogs and 2,200 for the fairly pretty 'side girls'. I have no way of knowing if this was the same price for Thais. Of course nothing there was worth that money, though there were many more girls than on previous visits.
I went to Ceasar instead where the prices are prominently posted on the walls for all to see (even farangs can read Roman numerals). Though the girls are very slightly less good looking at least 1,200 baht all in for a 'soapy' isn't too ridiculous. Flabby ugly old hag though, but decent BJ and BBFS. The impertinent hit me up for tips quite a bit afterwards though, which rather spoiled the feeling of post-insemination satisfaction. How is it a tip if it is demanded petulantly? More of a shakedown, particularly when the standard price is somewhat excessive in itself.
Checked out the small soi of brothels near downtown and though they may quote ridiculous prices initially (1,000 or even more), they will generally come down to the 'real' farang price - 500 short time. Who knows what Thai working-men may pay. Some cute girls on the soi this time - I really should have taken but felt unsure what the service would be like. I recall on previous visits being disappointed.
Checked out the small soi of brothels near downtown and though they may quote ridiculous prices initially (1,000 or even more), they will generally come down to the 'real' farang price - 500 short time. Who knows what Thai working-men may pay. Some cute girls on the soi this time - I really should have taken but felt unsure what the service would be like. I recall on previous visits being disappointed.Thai men paid between 100 baths and 500 baths, the standard price tend to be 200/300 bahts.
I'm actualy in had yai and paid this price to local chicken, this price includes BBBJ or BJ depend the girl, fj with condom and room price.
To Channy:
Interesting, Channy. Very rare to get a BJ in a small brothel in Isaan - service usually overall abysmal. When I was in Hat Yai I could not find any small or cheap brothels.
More on Khon Kaen:
On another day tried Princess Massage, within a 5-10 minute walk of Kosa, in the Princess-something Hotel. Most girls only 1,000 baht, and a few 1,200 baht, so a better value than other's I've tried in this town, but most of the girls were old and not tempting. There were however about three decent ones, particularly if you don't mind 30 year olds. I took one for 1,000. Good BBBJ, and for much longer than the usual 5 minutes, but BBFS was not to be had, alas. Ignominious handjob completion was the order of the day.
I boomeranged back to Khon Kaen recently, where I tried Kosa in spite of my better judgement. There the prices had changed again - this time 2,000 for the top girls. One of them really was quite pretty, so I tried it. Alas, covered blowjob made the experience worthless. There are some girls there who will give BBBJ, but it seems CBJ is becoming more and more common. Definitely a place to avoid, especially considering the offensive prices.
I next took a stroll down the small brothel soi, where there were quite a few attractive 20-25ish girls working. I felt that they were really unfriendly however, some turning away as I passed, and one even waving me away while making a comment to her coworker. Of course the older and uglier ones did run out to grab me, originally quoting 1,000 baht, but quickly dropping to 500 when I made a grimace and turned to go. I didn't take here as the atmosphere seemed discouraging.
Finally around 11:00 PM I took a tuk-tuk to the main bus station (not the 'air-con bus station, the other one. A bit of a misnomer nowadays when 90%+ of all buses are A/C, but AC bus station means the to-Bangkok one). The one you want is the 'local' bus station, which is the big one. There I was approached by several young pimps, but saw no girls strolling on the park side of the station. One used to see them here, now only pimps. These boys offered to take me on their motorbikes to girls, but I declined. After a minutes stroll round the corner however I came upon their three charges, and the boys followed me on motorbike. I chose the best looking of the three - the only remotely decent one - and 500 was agreed to very redily.
The boy offered to take us on his motorbike to a short-time hotel - I thought this would be right round the corner, but no, we went across town, taking a 10 minute ride to 'Playboy' hotel. This is the bungaloe style place common in Issan for sex purposes, and it did provide surprisingly good sex movies on the TV. Price 150, plus 100 that the pimp demanded for the motorbike ride. Finally got down to business with the girl - no BJ at all of course, and though she fished the dreaded instrument out of her purse, I managed with little effort to pursuade her to allow BBFS. Verytiresome humping, typical Isaan starfish.
Another tale of poor service. Mongers, the town is not recommended.
Hi all!
I know several places in I-San and especially in the Udon Thani and Nong Khai provinces. In my humble opinion, local "available" girls are prettier than those working in Pattaya or in Bangkok for a long time because they are in average younger, look more "natural" (not too much make-up), and dress themselves more conservatively. To really take advantage of and appreciate the local scene, one has to speak some Thai (or even better, the local dialect which is not much different than the Lao language) as very few girls (with the exception of young university students and. P4P girls back from Pattaya, Bangkok and other touristic areas! ) understand English.
I usually avoid the local students and girls having a "normal" occupation like the plague when I monger: too much trouble and a higher cost sooner or later. Unless you want to find a long-term companion or are ready to pay ridiculously high prices for a shag, you should do the same.
Most of the regular (I mean "not occasional" here) P4P girls in Udon Thani and Nong Khai provinces are Laotians. They usually come from small villages and are not much educated.
You can find them in several places (beer bars, brothels, karaoke clubs, in the street, etc.). Brothels often have my preference because they are usually convenient and cheap (but the comfort is minimal to say the least in most establishments).
Prices used to be lower, but nowadays, a farang (= Westerner) who can find these places by himself (= who comes not accompanied by a local) should not pay more than 500 baht in most of these places (basic room included), but it is only 300 or 400 baht where I go usually, and I've found several real gems there. For instance, in the city of Udon Thani, on Adunyadet Road, it's not very difficult to find the brothels. Almost all the houses in the "soi" (= small street) #2 are brothels. I am a regular in one of those and I pay only 300 baht, but 400 baht is now the "normal" price for Westerners in this area (you might be asked a higher price. 500 baht for instance. But if you smile, stay quiet, and explain that you know the normal prices, you will easily obtain a lower quotation). I saw Thai men paying 300 baht in these places. You may try to directly give only 300 hundred baht. If it's not enough, you will be asked for more and you can still gently argue that you know other places where it's only 300 baht (yes, they exist! ) even for Farang men.
Another place where you can find brothels is in a soi called "Soi Fai Deng" which is located very near the main CAT International Telephone office on Wattana Nuwong Road. Normal price for foreigners there is 300 baht in all brothels and you can have two "shots" for 500 baht in most places (but negotiate it in advance, not after the first shot, it's better). I've done that several times with girls who are really enthusiastic performers (anal and BBBJ+cim were on the menu). In this little street too, almost all "houses" are brothels.
Both above mentioned areas are usually opened the whole day, and that's why I think it's very convenient (not to mention the fact that you won't lose time there with various bullshits: straight to the point it is! ).
A less known place opens only at (approximately) 7pm. I am not sure about the closure time, but it's probably around 2am. It's located on Prajak Road, on the left side of the road when you are coming from the Clock Tower on your way to the train station (for instance), 20 or 30 meters after a shop that sells musical instruments. The normal price there is 300 baht (locals pay only 250 baht) and you can also have two shots for 500 baht.
Quality of the girls (beauty, performance, attitude, personality.) greatly varies from place to place. In average, girls are prettier than those working in Pattaya or Bangkok IMHO. Often, they are only 18 or 19-year old; 20 to 23-years old look like "veterans" in most establishments, but especially in the Soi Fai Deng, you can meet older girls (around 30 to 35-years old for instance) but they are not numerous. It's funny to notice that you often will find the same kind of girls in a brothel: older girls in one establishment, cutest girls (but usually not the best performers alas) in another one as if each house has its "specialty" (the most significant example of this is one brothel that I know in Nong Khai where almost all the girls have pretty impressive natural breasts, at least for Asian girls! ).
Sure, some girls will only let you do them "missionary" style (it's a shame that it is the case in one brothel where you can regularly find a few real stunners, but alas, of the starfish category! ). Bareback blow job is not that uncommon nowadays in I-San, but you may need to promise the girl an "incentive". Making her swallow your cum is certainly far more difficult to obtain especially if the girl is quite new at the job (older / more experienced girls would more likely consent). It's not difficult though to find a street worker (on Prajak Road, near the train station) who can do that for 200 or 300 baht after 10pm. A great majority (but not all) of them are ugly.
Anal is possible in brothels (you will need a lot of lubricant and patience in most cases, but it's not a rarity anymore). Strangely enough, I usually have better luck with slimmer girls and they seem to really enjoy anal sex once they have tried it. I sometimes have to do several attempts (in 3 or 4 encounters for instance) before the girl is relaxed enough for a frenetic anal sex session, but it's worth the time spent IMHO.
Some girls (but probably not the majority of them though) are OK for having "uncovered" sex (without condom) but it's not something that I do with hookers (except for blow jobs).
French kissing is not a common practice in I-San (it is not unusual in Pattaya, Bangkok and other more touristic area), but some girls will do it or are willing to learn it. It's a big turn-on for me (almost more efficient than a blow job! ) and I try to teach the local girls as often as I can. But it requires patience too. Start first with sniff-kisses (you plant your nose on your girl's cheek and gently sniff in) before trying to gently kiss her mouth with your lips (no tongue involved at the beginning: you can try it little by little if she's receptive).
About the tip that I may give, it depends greatly of the girl's attitude. Nothing for a starfish, but between 100 and 300 hundred baht in brothels (200 or 300 baht are usually sufficient as an incentive, even for anal or BBBJ+cim: if a specific girl won't do it for this amount, another will consent! ). I once gave a 200-baht tip to a 22-year old girl (not a stunner, but cute enough, a good 7 on 10 in my book) after a really good session involving anal and BBBJ+cim and she swallowed my cum at the end, and she asked me why I gave her "so much" for her tip (she didn't ask for one)! Great attitude really and she's been my favorite girl for months, but alas, she's back in Laos now.
So, you can have great fun in I-San, but it's certainly easier in Pattaya (for instance) and other touristic area if you don't speak the local dialects or if you need a certain level of comfort. Note that when you are a regular in certain brothels, you even can take a girl there and spend quality time with her at your own place or in a hotel of your choice. I've done that already (prices from 600 to 800 baht for two hours for the "house" and what you want for the girl as her tip). For a whole night, prices are ridiculously high, even for regulars (2500 baht and higher! ), so, I've declined so far! It's way cheaper if you want to spend the night with the same girl in the brothel itself (I was able to do that once for 500 baht because the girl fancy me, it was very late already and she spoke herself with the "mamasan", but I've been told that usually, it's more like 1500 baht on the premises).
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...It's way cheaper if you want to spend the night with the same girl in the brothel itself...
Great report Goyave, though I can't imagine spending the whole night in one of those little dumps!
I think your report provides excellent information to mongermen traveling to Udon, but it cannot be stressed enough that the service level in general is much, much lower than in Pattaya. Also it is worth cautioning readers that these little houses are sometimes closed for a few hours to a few days and on rare occasions even weeks due to police actions, so it is a bit of a risk coming up. One final critique - the only place there are Lao girls are in secretive houses as on the little sois, protected by the local mafia. All girls who work in any kind of bar, beer bar, kareoke, or on the street, will be Thai, and offer the usual cost/appearance trade off Thais do anywhere - in other words they're either old hags or very expensive.
Kudos to you for getting anal however - I usually found it very difficult to get a BJ or BBFS in those places, much less anal.
Great report Goyave, though I can't imagine spending the whole night in one of those little dumps!Thank you, Opebo. I usually enjoy reading yours (I registered only today, but I regularly read this board for a long time!) too. I just once spend one whole night in one brothel (it was my then favorite girl's last night of work there before coming back to Laos).
I think your report provides excellent information to mongermen traveling to Udon, but it cannot be stressed enough that the service level in general is much, much lower than in Pattaya.In general, yes. In Pattaya, you usually don't need to ask for a BBBJ (for instance). Most of the time, the girl will start performing it at the beginning of the session (it has been a common practice in touristic places for a long time). In I-San, it is still considered as an "extra" and you often have to specifically request it and negotiate for it. But fortunately, the situation is improving here.
Also it is worth cautioning readers that these little houses are sometimes closed for a few hours to a few days and on rare occasions even weeks due to police actions, so it is a bit of a risk coming up.True again. It has been the case several times in the past (but usually, not all of them are closed at the same time; it may happen too on several other occasions such as a major Buddhist event for instance, and then, all might be closed simultaneously, alas, and sometimes, several days in a row!).
One final critique - the only place there are Lao girls are in secretive houses as on the little sois, protected by the local mafia. All girls who work in any kind of bar, beer bar, kareoke, or on the street, will be Thai, and offer the usual cost/appearance trade off Thais do anywhere - in other words they're either old hags or very expensive.It's generally true in the city of Udon Thani itself, but not in the whole province. You can find cute Lao girls for instance in beer bars and karaoke places in smaller towns in the Udon Thani province (but even more often in the Nong Khai province) and for a fair price (not everywhere though). In Udon Thani itself, I've been lucky with a few street workers too who are Thai, but young, pretty, and not very expensive (often cheaper than the freelancers in Pattaya or at the same price). Sure, they are far than being the majority of the visible street workers.
Kudos to you for getting anal however - I usually found it very difficult to get a BJ or BBFS in those places, much less anal.Usually, when I select a girl in a specific brothel, I try to make her understand that I will come back often and tip her generously if she's a good performer. If she's not, I won't choose her the next time. If she is, I always do her (till she leaves the place or if she disappoints me later).
For instance, I would go in one specific brothel because I know one girl there who is into anal. And I would go in another one because another girl performs good blow jobs. It's true that is not so easy to find a girl that will fulfill all your requirements but it's possible. I don't request BBFS (but it would have been possible several times, especially when you are a "regular" for one specific girl).
I also try to select girls who are smiling when I enter a brothel (some of them may be prettier, but if they seem to be afraid of this Farang, I won't choose them). It's not "exact science", but it often works. I also avoid the "looking desperate" and "noisy" ones, I mean the ones who would almost beg for you take them. They usually are a big disappointment in the sack once the deal is done (They usually do their best to be noticed for a reason! The best girls don't need to do that...).
I manage to have BBBJ from almost all my regular girls (I won't select again a girl who doesn't do it... unless she's a into anal... or she must be a real stunner, but I probably won't come back several times if it's her sole quality). I always clean my dick very well (I don't say that others don't!) with soap before requesting a BJ and for most of the less experienced girls, it's very important that it smells good too!
I can have anal sex with maybe a third of my regular girls. But it's not always possible on the first "encounter" and as I said in my previous post, it requires patience and a lot of lube. Maybe am I lucky too when I select the girls (in Pattaya, I have an even better success rate on this matter!).
Hi all!
Hi Goyave
Very interesting report. Further info about said whereabouts would be appreciated!
(the most significant example of this is one brothel that I know in Nong Khai where almost all the girls have pretty impressive natural breasts, at least for Asian girls! ).Thanks again
Pedro917
Hi Goyave
Very interesting report. Further info about said whereabouts would be appreciated!
Thanks again,
Pedro917I will give you the exact name of the soi where this brothel is located very soon (I will be in Nong Khai tomorrow), but it's a small street between Prajak and Mechai roads, maybe 300 meters East from the bus station (approximately) and a little bit (a few sois) after the temple Wat Yot Kaeho (if I am not mistaken). I know how to go there, but I don't have a very precise map of Nong Khai at the moment to give you the detailed directions.
Anyway, tomorrow, I will check the exact name of this soi. This brothel opens when the night falls. Better to go there after 8 pm or later (or you won't have too much girls available then).
I'm back from Nong Khai and I can now give you more details to find the famous brothel where almost all girls have pretty impressive natural breasts. This fine establishment is located in a small street called "Soi Sri Boon Ruang 2" between Meechai (sometimes written "Michai") and Prajak roads.
It's easier to see the name of this Soi when coming from Meechai Road (in fact, it's really near the "what Sri Boon Ruang" temple). But you will more likely find the Soi itself coming from Prajak as it is a small (dark at night) street that is located very near a PTT (Por Tor Thor) gas station, on the other side of Prajak road, between Prasai and Phochai roads (Prasai road is a very small one, but Phochai is larger and you can't miss it IMHO).
If you come from Prajak road, you will notice a sort of arch with an inscription in Thai at the entrance of the soi and the brothel will be on the left side of this small street, at around 15-20 meters from the entrance. If you come from Meechai road, it's then on the right side of the street, at approximately 35-40 meters from the panel indicating the name of this street.
You will certainly notice a few girls waiting in front of the brothel if you go there after 8pm (or later), but there are usually others already inside too.
They charge 300 baht for half an hour (but they are not too pushy and it's usually OK to stay 45 minutes for this price) and 500 baht for one hour (approximately again, and I suppose that you can spend up to 90 minutes with the lady of your choice then).
There are also a few karaokes in the same area, but they don't have the same kind of girls and are not always opened. There are other brothels in Nong Khai, but this one is probably my favorite because of what apparently is its "specialty" (bigger than average boobs on pretty Asian girls! ).
I'm back from Nong Khai and I can now give you more details to find the famous brothel where almost all girls have pretty impressive natural breasts. This fine establishment is located in a small street called "Soi Sri Boon Ruang 2" between Meechai (sometimes written "Michai") and Prajak roads.
It's easier to see the name of this Soi when coming from Meechai Road (in fact, it's really near the "what Sri Boon Ruang" temple). But you will more likely find the Soi itself coming from Prajak as it is a small (dark at night) street that is located very near a PTT (Por Tor Thor) gas station, on the other side of Prajak road, between Prasai and Phochai roads (Prasai road is a very small one, but Phochai is larger and you can't miss it IMHO).
If you come from Prajak road, you will notice a sort of arch with an inscription in Thai at the entrance of the soi and the brothel will be on the left side of this small street, at around 15-20 meters from the entrance. If you come from Meechai road, it's then on the right side of the street, at approximately 35-40 meters from the panel indicating the name of this street.
You will certainly notice a few girls waiting in front of the brothel if you go there after 8pm (or later), but there are usually others already inside too.
They charge 300 baht for half an hour (but they are not too pushy and it's usually OK to stay 45 minutes for this price) and 500 baht for one hour (approximately again, and I suppose that you can spend up to 90 minutes with the lady of your choice then).
There are also a few karaokes in the same area, but they don't have the same kind of girls and are not always opened. There are other brothels in Nong Khai, but this one is probably my favorite because of what apparently is its "specialty" (bigger than average boobs on pretty Asian girls! ).Hey Goyave,
That it some pretty impressive directions. Even I shouldn't foul that up.
I'm now sure that the boobs will be equallv as impressive.
Thanks again,
Pedro917
Took a look round the Si Saket train station the other night around 12:00 midnight, and there wasn't a single even remotely doable girl, and precious few of the old and ugly ones. These horrible old bags can be found to the right side of the train station (there is a police box watching over things to the left side - as you face the station from the roundabout/square). They had the temerity to ask me for 500 baht! I refused, whereupon the motorcycle taxi guys offered me a '20 year old' available only by phone for 560 baht. They had no phone and so used mine to try her - she was not home and so I was unrequited.
I looked round the corner by the old shabby short time hotel, where there were three or four more slightly younger but still wholely unattractive women. They offered themselves to me for 500 baht, and I countered with 300 - no dice. Then I told the least hideous (who was short and fat!) that 500 would be ok if I could have bareback - she ran away acting quite upset! Hard to believe one such as that can be setting terms, but I suppose that is where we are in Si Saket 2008.
So, I wandered sadly back to my hotel, sperm still with me. I hope the little fellows do not disturb my sleep.
This is my third visit to the Si Saket, and I can only stress again how awful is mongering here, however no doubt any mongermen who thrive upon ugly, worn faces, baggy, wrinkly bodies, malodors, and hostile, reluctant services may enjoy a trip to this pleasant backwater.
The next day in the afternoon I looked around the train station and found no one there - that is, no one other than boring regular people. I then went to the short time hotel to the left of the roundabout mentioned last night (just walk away from the station through the roundabout/square, and then left at the first street, and find the old short time hotel on the right a few hundred feet down).
I saw there three girls, happily none of them the same as the previous night. Two were quite attractive and young, and one not so attractive. All seemed to obviously dread associations with farang. The old hotelier/pimp offered the cuter ones to me for 1,000 baht, which I countered with 500. At that price he offered the unattractive one, and countered with 700 for the cuter ones. I'm sure Freeler will disapprove, but I agreed - after all there are so very few options in this town that it is a seller's market. The old maven included the room, or rather did not even mention charging for the room - no doubt he was very happy with his cut of the girl's fee.
In the room the girl turned out to be slightly less cute than she had appeared in the lobby, but she was adequate and around 20 years of age, with a slim body and fat ass. Very dark and Kmer looking, so I couldn't help but wonder what Thai guys would be willing to pay for her - probably 300. Service was abominable as always in Issan - no blow job and reluctance about positions other than missionary. Bareback was allowed without fuss however, and I did manage with great difficulty to insist on 'doggy style' sex (from behind) as the fat ass suggested. Despite not really being enthused, I managed to relieve myself of unwanted sperms.
The saddest part was the girl showered and fled from the room as fast as possible. It is interesting how the friendly service of Pattaya or even Bangkok does not translate to the provinces.
My last day in Si Saket I stopped by the short time hote at around two PM. There were no girls in the lobby, but I asked the old man and he took me upstairs and knocked on a door, waking up the one girl within. She wasn't very attractive, with a bit of a stomach, but a tolerable face. He asked 700 again, but I insisted on just 500 for this one. At that price he insisted I pay the 60 baht short time room charge (by the way a full night in this place is just 120 - I've stayed there in years past and it is lovely, with high ceilings).
Service was a tiny bit better, and even included a BJ, such as it was. By that I mean a poor one. Bareback was not difficult to obtain, at no extra cost and with no argument.
So, with that I left Si Saket, not unrequited, but hardly satisfied. I shall include a budget for those who enjoy such things:
2 days:
Hotel - 700 baht
Girls - 1,260
Foodstuffs - 600
motorbike taxis - 100 (20 baht per trip)
misc - 80
Total - 2,740, or about 1,370 per day.
I almost forgot to share my recent trip to Udon's brothels with my mongering brothers.
I made a flying visit there with a full saloon-load of Thai acquaintances, and we found the two main sois mostly open, with a fair selection of girls. Quality was excellent in Soi Two and better than the last time I visted in Soi Sow Fie Dang. Prices remain 300 in the latter, and 400 in the former, but this time I tried out the 'special' house just off of Soi two on the small sub-soi to the left.
This is the house that the Thai middle class guys always seem to prefer, and it is priced at 600 baht Thai or farang. The selection here is really large - perhaps 30 girls, and the rooms are very nice and clean, with decent bathrooms ensuite and air conditioning.
I allowed the older man who seems to run the place to suggest one for me, as I requested the ability to 'moke' (smoke, or suck dick). Alas not all girls provide this service. He choose a cute and frisky one, but alas being short and a bit curvy not really my type. Still, service was much better than average for Issan, with a decent BJ and bareback available, though only with a bit argument and coaxing. The girl was really fresh and sweet, even giggly and sniffy as well - dare I say it? A GFE.
My friends were all really pleased with their girls, particular the one who took the one 'special' girl priced at 800. She was very good looking, slim but busty, and supposedly a Lao university student. At that price he got not just the nice rooms like the rest of us, but the veritable penthouse suite - with hot water!
After a break for recharging the sperm tubules and supping on a bit of grilled chicken livers and some noodle soup, we returned for a second go at one of the 400 baht houses on the soi. This was also enjoyable, though bareback required an awful lot of argumentation. I would have liked to try Sow Fie Dang but its more downmarket style didn't really suit my middle class crew.
Budget for the outing:
Gas to Udon Thani - 300
Girls - 1,000
Foodstuffs - 120
Total - 1,420
Driving through Roi-Et recently I took an afternoon's respite at Mai-Tai hotel's soapy. This place is a bit hidden up the stairs - they seem to have to avoid advertising its existence in the current prudish climate. But it is still there, still in operation, after all these years, up the steep stairwell on the second floor. A few decent looking early-twenties types, priced at 1,700, some good looking older women around 30 or even older priced at 1,500, and some untempting ones at 1,200. Services were standard, with a perfunctory BBBJ; I even had to don a condom for a while, though happily I eventually talked her out of it and had some real sex and a creampie finish. Obviously these kind of places are a very poor deal pricewise, but I was flush at the time. Oh well.
I wanted to find out if there were any small houses ('song'), but my travelling companions must press on. I asked a few tuktuks about this and they claimed there were none, though one said that I should try going to some of the bungaloes outside town.
On a non-mongering note, this pleasant town (which is situated on a lovely man made lake) boasts what is said to be 'Isaan's first Indian restaurnt'. Delicious food, just half a block from the downtown shopping mall - 'Roi-Et City Plaza'. Comically, my colleagues just watched me eat and then dined later upon food from the market just down the street. (Thais notoriously dislike all things Indian, and most certainly Indian cuisine). I do have to admit it is one of the nicest markets I have encountered in a small Isaan city.
Stopped to sleep in the next town, Maha Sarakham. We looked around the soi that used to have two or three little brothels, and while there were a few girls sort of loitering around I think you have to take them elsewhere as the buildings appeared to be knocked down. (as you depart Takasila Hotel go left and then another left at the first soi) Prices were still bargainable to 500 baht though 1,000 was initially quoted as seems to be standard in such sois (see my Khon Kaen reports). Mediocre quality. The girls said the police were cracking down a lot lately.
Asked from a motorbike taxi opposite the opening of this soi and he called a girl on the phone who showed up on a motorbike - a quite cute one around 20-23. Off to a short time hotel, after bargaining to 600 baht from initial 1,000. Bareback was had without complaint, and though only the most amatuerish blow job the sex was fairly intimate.
The old lady houses downtown next to the market were reduced from one to two, and only two very ugly and one good looking old lady remained 300 for the former and 500 for the latter, so I didn't try. This house looks like an old rooming house, and is on the side of the market farthest from the clocktower roundabout.
Another of our mongering team decided to take the hotel bellman up on the offer of a 'college girl' available by telephone. This was priced at 1,500, but it might very well be more for a non-Thai. I was not present to see the girl but I was told she was a looker, though not a performer.
On the way out of town the next evening we stopped at a large kareoke - on the highway on the way to Kalasin. There were two or three very cute girls here, several mediocre ones, and a few that weren't even girls! We feared the cute ones might have just been there for a sort of teaser but I was rented one for 1,000 baht short time. Top notch service for Isaan in a nearby bungaloe hotel, including BBBJ, nipple nibbling, and bareback (complete with moaning!). I think I was lucky - even a dog has his day.
Just one note about this style of place - I was travelling with Thais, and these kareokes may be difficult to navigate unless you are very fluent and can blend in. Even with my friends the girls seemed wary of a foreigner. I have gone to such places alone before and been ignored by the girls and harrassed in friendly fashion by the tipsy Thai dudes (you know - offering you a drink, shaking your hand, etc.) Generally the best rule is, if the place is not to busy you will be fine, but if it is Friday or Saturday night and the place is packed with groups of Thai guys, better to take care.
Budget for this report:
Gas from Si Saket to Kalasin - 200 baht (X4)
Hotel - 475 baht (950/2 - yes Thai dudes
always insist on two to a room)
girls - 3,300 baht (200 baht in tips)
short time rooms - 320 baht (2X160 baht)
Foodstuffs - 600 baht
misc. - 200 baht
Total for two days - 5,095 baht or about 2,500/day
Next report (I hope) Kalasin and Mukdahan.
I'm back from Nong Khai and I can now give you more details
Hmm. I just tried to get the same map as the one in the posted screenshot, and the small streets between Prasai and Pho Chai don't seem to be there any more. I wonder if there's policy reasons for that.
Hmm. I just tried to get the same map as the one in the posted screenshot, and the small streets between Prasai and Pho Chai don't seem to be there any more. I wonder if there's policy reasons for that.I made some improvements and added a few information on the original map (such as the smaller Sois in the above mentioned area and the PTT gas station), so, that's probably why you won't find exactly the same map elsewhere (unless someone has already copied and posted mine).
Hmm. I just tried to get the same map as the one in the posted screenshot, and the small streets between Prasai and Pho Chai don't seem to be there any more. I wonder if there's policy reasons for that.Hi Rocksoff,
Are you saying that the streets no longer exist, or that they are left off local maps for political convenience reasons?
Pedro917
Any info appreciated as planning a visit in new year!
... Are you saying that the streets no longer exist, or that they are left off local maps for political convenience reasons?
Pedro917
Any info appreciated as planning a visit in new year!Don't be afraid, Pedro917, I regularly visit this area and its establishments and they're still operating. My favorite girl was not there on my latest visit (a few days ago) alas, but several others were available (and other options exist in other parts of Nong Khai too).
So, like a bunch of other people, I was affected by the problems at the airports last week. Unlike a lot of other people who were stuck in Thailand trying to go out, my problem was getting back home in Bangkok from Vietnam.
That was around the beginning of the incidents, and I had half a mind to wait it out in vietnam, hoping it would blow over by Monday, and sample the local scene over the weekend. But as it turned out, my company announced me that they'd booked me on a flight to Vientiane on Saturday afternoon, and that I'd have to take the overnight train from there. A quick check told me that I couldn't possibly get off my plane, go through the visa on arrival thing, make my way through the border and down to nong khai, and still catch the train on Saturday. So I decided to spend a quiet and relaxing weekend in Laos instead.
That too was not to be. Upon arrival in vientiane, some crazy american advises me to make my way immediately to nong khai and stake out for a seat in a train or bus, as everything would be fully booked to Monday. He further told me to run to the border straight away as it closes at 6PM. Somehow made it there at 6:30, and indeed the place looked dark and almost deserted, but I was still ushered through along with a bus-full of korean tourists.
So I hailed one of the taxi touts, and decided to first have a look at the train station. Surprise, the evening train was still there, and even had some seats available, but only in 3rd class. I gave it a miss and booked a sleeper couch for the next day, without problem. Asked if there was any rush, the station guy told me I was one of the first to reserve a seat for that train. Alarmist American, to this day, I hate your gut.
Next to the interesting stuff, as I instructed my taxi guy to take me to the nearest motel. That was to be the Pantawee hotel, a sprawling establishment in the center of town. There too, the staff was a bit hurried but plenty of rooms available (damage so far: 600b + 100 to taxi). Room was small but clean. The friendly manager enquired if I needed anything more, "drink? Room service? Beautiful lady? " and I told him I'd definitely make use of the latter but needed to shower and dine first. Shower was at best barely lukewarm. I lazed out a bit and by the time I was finished and had and a few phone calls and beers, it was close to 9:30 and the town was looking positively dead. Friendly manager nowhere in shight too, but some just as friendly tuk-tuk drivers hail me. I climb aboard without a word. "Lady? ". Nod. And we're on our way.
That's when I noticed it had gotten really damn chilly. I had packed only light shirts for Vietnam, and the open air ride in the tuc tuc drove me in a deep state of hypothermia. It took us 10 minutes to get to the nondescript building which was our destination, and by that time I had turned an interesting shade of blue. I had to steel myself to keep my dignity, and couldn't trust my teeth and jaw so kept my mouth firmly shut, with a frozen grin.
So we enter a lobby with a few old sofas, and an ugly girl who's apparently just woke up comes down. I mutter an oops, but apparently she's just the mama. She makes a phone call and 2 minutes later, the papasan arrives on a bike with 3 girls on the back! Yes, Issaan girls really are that small.
They're all very fine looking and in their early 20's, but I instictively avoid the bossy type with a lot of make up. The one on the left is a real stunner, but visibly nervous, and she does looks a bit too young to be safe. So instead I smile and nod to the quiet one on the right with the nice smile. 700bahts are exchanged + 100 to the driver- my mouth was still frozen by the cold so I didn't negociate. The way back to the hotel is more tolerable with a young hot body snuggling next to mine, but still when we arrive all I feel capable of is to curl up in foetal position under a heap of blankets. My room is in a extension apart from the main hotel building, so we can get off the tuctuc and get in directly. Good point. While walking next to her I can't help but notice that she practically could give me a BJ while standing. But I have nothing against petites.
Once in the room we proceed to a bit of cuddling. Me showing off my vast knowledge of Thai language. That part is over in about 20s including a lot of goofy laughing. More cuddling and OMG!. Exploding from that tight top is a pair of natural melons vast and shapely enough to give me faith in God again.
Just from that sight, I have warmed up considerably already, but still, when she mentions the word "shower", I cringe in pain internally. By that time the water is just plain cold and I decide to make it brief and vigorous. Still, when I come out, I have to cover myself modestly, because I don't remember seeing my willy that small since I was about 10. I walk out shivering and. Second shock of the evening! My companion is a lot less modest that I and what a body! Her face was a bit chubby so I wasn't setting my hopes too high, but wow! Thin, shapely waist above a perky ass to die for, the firmness of which I then had plenty of opportunity to test.
Needless to say I'm all over her and making a joyous fool of myself in a moment. But she artfully dodges my clumsy attempts, the we have a good laugh and she's off to the shower while I huddle under the blanket trying to get in condition for what's next. Soon enough, I notice a warm presence snuggling beside me under the blanket and we're making out again. I get warmed up in no time exploring every inch of that luscious, brown body. After a delicious while of that, we proceed to me covering up and receiving a quite delectable CBJ. Now I have to say that not even the most expert girls in Bangkok ever made me come with just a CBJ, especially not when I'm drunk and tired and cold. But I had to stop her in a hurry or I would have popped right there and then. Not that she'd have had too much trouble coaxing me back to life I guess.
The rest of the evening continued pretty much along those lines, fking awesome in bed and very GFE to boot, more so than my actual GF I have to say. She left a bit after midnight asking for 200 in tip. Bash me if you will but I grossly overpaid. I probably won't be back around Nong Khai in a while, but I'm sure I will enquire about LT if I do.
Sorry for the long winded report, but it was a funny trip and a much enjoyable change from the Nana/soi cowboy routine.
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Natloz ,
For LT in Nong Khai, asking prices are B1000. Appr B300 goes to mamasan, if not more. Of ST B100-200 goes to mamasan.
Buriram and Si Saket revisited,
Buriram turned out to be the most exciting place on the trip so far. The brothels in Nivas Road (Check previous reports) had some cute babes even at 2 pm. One asleep on a matrass on the floor just woke up and after a mouthwash, she was all over me trying to sell herself along with the Pepsi I ordered. Mamasan came along with three more girls, and I could not help noticing that she wanted more Baht for the younger ones. Young: B700, experienced B500. It simply doesn't add up. I left after paying B20 for the Pepsi and I left a tip for wake up girl - cuz she felt so good crawling all over me.
Just after dark, my fav B' ram lady arrived at the RWS and I took her straight to my room. She said she hadn't had any in four days, and she clearly suffered from a bad case of ni-en. She serviced me in every conceivable department and left with a new shirt, a facial and B300 - happy as can be.
Later back at the RWS, Noon walked by in her tiny short hot pants and tight coat. Great smile, tits that lit up every time her mobile rang (...) and a great smile (I said that twice for a reason!). Decent English too for the Thai impaired. She said something about B500 and then disappeared on a motorbike. Whatever. Then a girl with 'no name' who came from 'home' grabbed me, started kissing and said 'normally B500 but ni-en, now B200'. And even tho she was mau, usually a hold or even no go, I looked passed that and took her. And boy, was I in for a treat. She took my dickhead way passed her toncils, then demanded to get fucked. That was a small price to pay for so much fucking sanuk! After receiving the juice and B200 she still wanted to suck cock again. Who am I to say no? So another rubber came out and on and the whole thing started again... Needless to say I slept well that night.
Cost of one dat: train B24, hotel B120, girls B300 and B200. Food and drinks about B150. Add up to not a lot, huh?
Si Saket was a different trip altogether. I really went there to see GF#2, but one day she left without telling me why and where and I took the opportunity to check out the action around the Santisuk Hotel ( From RWS pass round about and at pharmacy turn left). I stumbled across a mute girl that I'd had before. So I made her pay for the room (B60ST) to make sure she wasn't on the rag. I made it quite clear: Sii deang --> NO pay! But she was fine and eventho she doesn't do anything but lay on her back, she is a remarkable feel good ride. Nice face, great tits and very soft skin. Cost of this little adventure: B60 for room, B200 for girl. When she left I got a wai and a hiss. There.
Strangely, GF#2 wasn't in for sex at all that evening. Wonder what she'd been up to...
Natloz ,
For LT in Nong Khai, asking prices are B1000. Appr B300 goes to mamasan, if not more. Of ST B100-200 goes to mamasan.
Buriram and Si Saket revisited,
Buriram turned out to be the most exciting place on the trip so far. The brothels in Nivas Road (Check previous reports) had some cute babes even at 2 pm. One asleep on a matrass on the floor just woke up and after a mouthwash, she was all over me trying to sell herself along with the Pepsi I ordered. Mamasan came along with three more girls, and I could not help noticing that she wanted more Baht for the younger ones. Young: B700, experienced B500. It simply doesn't add up. I left after paying B20 for the Pepsi and I left a tip for wake up girl - cuz she felt so good crawling all over me.
Just after dark, my fav B' ram lady arrived at the RWS and I took her straight to my room. She said she hadn't had any in four days, and she clearly suffered from a bad case of ni-en. She serviced me in every conceivable department and left with a new shirt, a facial and B300 - happy as can be.
Later back at the RWS, Noon walked by in her tiny short hot pants and tight coat. Great smile, tits that lit up every time her mobile rang (...) and a great smile (I said that twice for a reason!). Decent English too for the Thai impaired. She said something about B500 and then disappeared on a motorbike. Whatever. Then a girl with 'no name' who came from 'home' grabbed me, started kissing and said 'normally B500 but ni-en, now B200'. And even tho she was mau, usually a hold or even no go, I looked passed that and took her. And boy, was I in for a treat. She took my dickhead way passed her toncils, then demanded to get fucked. That was a small price to pay for so much fucking sanuk! After receiving the juice and B200 she still wanted to suck cock again. Who am I to say no? So another rubber came out and on and the whole thing started again... Needless to say I slept well that night.
Cost of one dat: train B24, hotel B120, girls B300 and B200. Food and drinks about B150. Add up to not a lot, huh?
Si Saket was a different trip altogether. I really went there to see GF#2, but one day she left without telling me why and where and I took the opportunity to check out the action around the Santisuk Hotel ( From RWS pass round about and at pharmacy turn left). I stumbled across a mute girl that I'd had before. So I made her pay for the room (B60ST) to make sure she wasn't on the rag. I made it quite clear: Sii deang --> NO pay! But she was fine and eventho she doesn't do anything but lay on her back, she is a remarkable feel good ride. Nice face, great tits and very soft skin. Cost of this little adventure: B60 for room, B200 for girl. When she left I got a wai and a hiss. There.
Strangely, GF#2 wasn't in for sex at all that evening. Wonder what she'd been up to...Hi freeler,
Good report in the same line as before I was in buriram in October but find the scene intresting but too limited. Prices are right. But I failed to find the brothel in nivas road. Ever with the help of precious report
I was amazed to find some buriram girls in khorat some weeks after my buriram trip all and all I find khorat more exciting many new faces, at same price as buriram. Anyway thank for your report. I hope I could help you one day. For Thailand city or Malaysia and Cambodia
Your best fan
Channy
Channy,
The brothels are situated on the stretch of Nivas that runs North South. Look for wooden 'sheds', next to a karaoke bar. Just North of them is a cleared area (not built up). Also a bit North on the opposite side of the road is a truck repair shop, at least that's what it looks like to me, it could be a contracter's yard.
Look for wooden 'sheds', next to a karaoke bar.
Hope this helps...
I visited some cheap kareokes which provided girls for 500 baht in Buriram. There is a little strip of maybe four or five of them along what appears to be Nivas road, after you go around the big curve as you take Nivas away from the train station/downtown, going West. However I think by that time, when you go around the big curve, you are actually on 'In Jandra Narong'. Not that it matters, but in case of confusion, that's what google maps says.
In any case, the places I visited were just past the big curve as described, on the left side of the road. Are these the ones in question?
When I visited they were quite a rogues gallery of unattractive ladies, and only one girl in the strip was appealing at 500 baht. My traveling companion and I had to take turns with her as no other girl was to our taste! Opebo was an honorable friend and accepted sloppy seconds. The report. (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=523501&highlight=buriram#post523501)
http://www.udondayandnight.com/index.php
Any info on this plaza listed above? Heading to Udon in about 4 months. Better question is, can you bar fine the ladies at these establishments? G spot seems to a great place to hang out.
http://www.udondayandnight.com/index.php
Any info on this plaza listed above? Heading to Udon in about 4 months. Better question is, can you bar fine the ladies at these establishments? G spot seems to a great place to hang out.
Don't know how long you plan to stay in Udon, or where you plan to stay, but I highly recommend staying and the Ton Koon Hotel. Rooms are about 700 baht. Hotel staff very friendly, and hotel is owned by same Thai who owns the karaoke and massage place next door, so no hassle when bringing in girls to room. Good food, too. Girls who work next door are quite good looking. Yes, you can bar fine them, but I worked a private deal with my girls from the massage place and karaoke.
Opebo,
Indeed, go West from the RWS, then a bend to the left - there is no other way to go. It might change name at that point, but I don't know... Then a few hundred meters on, there's a clearing left first and then at least two brothels also on the left.
Asking prices, like I said where in the B500-700 region, but I didn't test for bottom.
It's a nice alternative for those who refuse to pay B300 or less for ST or don't want to be seen at the RWS:).
http://www.udondayandnight.com/index.php
Any info on this plaza listed above? Heading to Udon in about 4 months. Better question is, can you bar fine the ladies at these establishments? G spot seems to a great place to hang out.There are many bars in the same street and you probably can "barfine" the girls in most of them, but in my humble opinion the quality of talents in this area is so-so and the prices are often higher that one can expect (more expensive than Pattaya on average and sometimes even more than Bangkok!).
I only once found a girl to my taste in another bar of this area and she wanted 1500 baht ST! I'm not used to this kind of quotation (I'm in my early forties, can speak Thai not too bad, live daily in the Land of Smiles since 2003 and am an "handsome man" just like you all, guys!) especially in I-San, so, I did not partake (with her) and did not asked how much was the barfine (I suppose that it is probably 300 baht in most places in this street, but I can't say for sure).
The brothels for instance in Adunyadej Soi 2 (at a 5-10 minute walking distance from this street) are better value (300 or 400 baht for a ST session on premises). You can also sometimes find one or two young and pretty street walkers at night (but most of them are old and not very attractive though) from this street on the way to the railway station who are willing to go for 500 ST (or even less) and 800-1000 baht LT (and a BBBJ+CIM can be had for 200 or 300 baht in your car).
Opebo,
Indeed, go West from the RWS, then a bend to the left - there is no other way to go. It might change name at that point, but I don't know... Then a few hundred meters on, there's a clearing left first and then at least two brothels also on the left.
Asking prices, like I said where in the B500-700 region, but I didn't test for bottom.
It's a nice alternative for those who refuse to pay B300 or less for ST or don't want to be seen at the RWS:).
After the bend in ?Nivas Road, there is a right turn, and along there on the right are a number of shacks selling beer and girls. Not exactly brothels though
Do the brothels you refer to have rooms available?
Are you saying that the streets no longer exist, or that they are left off local maps for political convenience reasons?
It's just what I noticed on Google Maps. No idea of the reasons behind or conditions in the field.
It's just what I noticed on Google Maps. No idea of the reasons behind or conditions in the field.The explaination is here: 821878
You can also sometimes find one or two young and pretty street walkers at night (but most of them are old and not very attractive though) from this street on the way to the railway station who are willing to go for 500 ST (or even less) and 800-1000 baht LT (and a BBBJ+CIM can be had for 200 or 300 baht in your car).
Goyave, thanks for updating us on these streetwalkers. I have taken quite a few now and again from that area, but I have never seen any attractive ones there. However for the old and/or unattractive ones that one typically finds there the standard price is 300 baht.
Goyave, thanks for updating us on these streetwalkers. I have taken quite a few now and again from that area, but I have never seen any attractive ones there. ...I posted pictures (well, image captured from a video) of one of the "doable" (in my humble opinion) ones here: 820563
I made some improvements and added a few information on the original map
Ah! That explains it. The PTT station and the BROTHEL caption are obvious enough additions, but the sois are drawn perfectly google-style. Fooled me!
The brothels for instance in Adunyadej Soi 2 (at a 5-10 minute walking distance from this street) are better value (300 or 400 baht for a ST session on premises). You seem to be knowledgeable about the Lao brothel scene in Udon.
Have you ever been to Soi 7 where they present you with a line-up but don't have facilities on the premises and offer to take you and the lady of your choice to the "bungalow" instead?
Although the girls didn’t look half bad, I wasn’t quite comfortable with this option and passed on it.
However, it keeps intrigueing me, and I should appreciate to learn from someone with first-hand experience how this deal exactly works in practice.
You seem to be knowledgeable about the Lao brothel scene in Udon.
Have you ever been to Soi 7 where they present you with a line-up but don't have facilities on the premises and offer to take you and the lady of your choice to the "bungalow" instead?
Although the girls didn’t look half bad, I wasn’t quite comfortable with this option and passed on it.
However, it keeps intrigueing me, and I should appreciate to learn from someone with first-hand experience how this deal exactly works in practice.Don't be afraid, it's safe. But it's also dearer than other places in the area and in my humble opinion, the girls are not much prettier (well, a little bit better though) than in the other brothels of Udon Thani.
I have been only once there and it was more than one year ago. I was first quoted 700 baht for one hour, but down to 500 baht after a little bit of haggling.
The rooms are not far away (a few hundred meters) and are much nicer and larger than in the other brothels (OK, that's not really difficult to achieve, but they are quite acceptable and with a bathroom with hot water for shower). But arrived there with the girl and one of the pimp's aide, I was asked 100 baht more for the room by the latter. So, that was actually 600 baht ST room included.
Session was OK, but not great (covered BJ and no anal). Therefore, I haven't come back since, but it's probably not too bad a deal for those who prefer more comfortable places and provided that you can get what you want with the girl of your choice.
I tried a few times .you can see a line up at a place,(about 3 now) then go to bungalow ,about 10 to 30 meters. the rooms are somwhat dark. will cost you 100 bht if you go alone or 150 with tout. girls are 400 to 800bht depending on how new mama or papasam claim them to be.
I can remember just a few years ago there still survived some regular houses on Soi Seven - particularly that one first one just on the left about 30 feet up a small subsoi. That was a nice place; does anyone else remember that one? But, for some reason the actual houses that operated on seven could not survive the great crackdowns of 2005-2007, while Sow Fie Dang and Soi Two are still with us, after a fashion, and of course, only for the moment.
To Goyave: the Udon streetwalker in your pic is very nice! Of course that is the thing about streetwalkers anywhere in the world - while the vast majority of them look bad, there is always that needle in a haystack pretty one out there that keeps us looking.
To Goyave: the Udon streetwalker in your pic is very nice! Of course that is the thing about streetwalkers anywhere in the world - while the vast majority of them look bad, there is always that needle in a haystack pretty one out there that keeps us looking.I don't check this area very often (only twice or thrice a month on average) because I usually favour other options in Udon Thani, but I've noticed 4 or 5 young and physically decent streetwalkers there (but often not more than 2 at a given time) during the last 6 months.
It's also not too difficult during nighttime (after midnight for instance) to find freelancers wandering in the streets on motorbike by pair. If you're driving a car and can speak some Thai, you can engage a conversation at a red traffic light. You might be surprised to observe how numerous are the pretty girls who would agree to go with you for 500-1000 baht ST or 800-1200 baht LT (per girl). I've already improvised a few threesomes this way.
Thanks for the information.
My visit to Soi 7 was a year ago. The price they quoted was B500 for boom-boom and B100 for the bungalow.
As I didn't like the bungalow arrangement I asked how much the take-out price was. Papasan wanted to know where I was staying, and when I told him Karin Hotel he said that take-out to that hotel was not possible. However, from his question I infer that take-out is a possibility depending on where you stay.
I’ve been visiting Udon for years but so far I've only been with regular puyings because I love GFE. For me fore and afterplay are more important than the deed itself. Tawan Daeng, Yellow Bird and Mambo are my favourite hunting grounds. However, the other side of the coin is that this entails a lot of emotional baggage. I make such bad husband material that I really need to change my ways :(
I’ll be in Udon next month and report back here if I go with any P4P girl.
Anyone in Nong Khai 9/1 &10/1.
If so fancy meeting up?
Pedro 917
Mosquito2002
01-10-09, 03:26
Pittsburgh playing San Diego on Monday morning at 5am, any place in Udon that I can watch the game (bar or pub)??
Reading the previous posts, I can see making a run to Udon early and doing a short-time. Can't open the map (location of brothels and streetwalkers), any better directions or link??
I can drive to the major mall, Big "C" and Tesco....after that all the streets look the same!
Adelante Siempre
01-10-09, 20:35
Pittsburgh playing San Diego on Monday morning at 5am, any place in Udon that I can watch the game (bar or pub)??
Reading the previous posts, I can see making a run to Udon early and doing a short-time. Can't open the map (location of brothels and streetwalkers), any better directions or link??
I can drive to the major mall, Big "C" and Tesco....after that all the streets look the same!
Your best bet is the site udonmap.com
Much more than a map, just about any info on Udon Thani can be found there, or you could post a question to their Udon forum.
Well its time to do a border run to Laos ... so a trip via Udon Thani & Nong Khai is called for.
Having RTFF I decide to stay at the Ton Koon hotel which has had some good reviews for the adjoining Karaoke. Well, get to the kakaoke early they said so 8.30 ish I turn up. Seems a bit quiet but what the heck, so I go in about dozen Thai men sitting in the tables/booths and occasionally singing out of tune. A couple of honeys serving drinks but thats it!
Well I sat there for half hour saw no working girls and was left alone! So I settle my bar bill and go, on the way out a couple of girls sitting on the steps talking but made no effort to try to do business.
So back to the hotel for an early night for trip to Nong Khai next day, not to worried as I have great directions for action in NK from Goyave.
Pedro 917
Well its off to Nong Khai and a stay at the Pantawee hotel, good value B600 per night for a room in the bungalows on the opposite side of the road, so convenient for ease of access for girlies. Each room also has unlimited internet access.
So equipped with Goyaves map and directions I set off to check out the location . Well with superb directions I find the location easily and decide to return after dark at 8ish as recommended.
Well I arrive about 8 oclock and I am relieved to see a few girls sitting outside as expected. Now it all starts to go "tits up" I approach and in my usual Thai /English enquire for the mamasan and move towards the entrance, I am now told that this is a Thai establishment and does not cater for farangs, none of the girls are showing any interest and I leave with as much dignity as I can muster.
This mongering lark is bloody hard work, with success not guaranteed! So I stop a tuk tuk and ask the driver for a nice lady. He speaks reasonable English and drives off god knows where for 10 minutes and we finish up out in the boonies a some private shop house where 4-5 girls are sitting playing cards. mamasan says B800 ST or B2000 LT, I think I am being stitched up and girls are nothing special so off we go to another place driver tells me that going rate is B700ST & B2000LT. At the next place a selection of half dozen girls confirm his rate, so I am worn down and select the best of the bunch short time which I pay up front.
We get back to Bungalows and the girl (FON) is from Laos about 20 slim and reasonably attractive. she was however endeavoring to get into the Guinness book of records for getting it over and done with ASAP.
But after much cha cha I did have a reasonable pop. Plenty DATY, BBJ & DFK but definitely not a GFE.
So now its on to Ventiane.
Pedro917
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Well its time to do a border run to Laos ... so a trip via Udon Thani & Nong Khai is called for.
Having RTFF I decide to stay at the Ton Koon hotel which has had some good reviews for the adjoining Karaoke. Well, get to the kakaoke early they said so 8.30 ish I turn up. Seems a bit quiet but what the heck, so I go in about dozen Thai men sitting in the tables/booths and occasionally singing out of tune. A couple of honeys serving drinks but thats it!
Well I sat there for half hour saw no working girls and was left alone! So I settle my bar bill and go, on the way out a couple of girls sitting on the steps talking but made no effort to try to do business.
So back to the hotel for an early night for trip to Nong Khai next day, not to worried as I have great directions for action in NK from Goyave.
Pedro 917I too stayed at the Toon Koon hotel. I did not bother with the Karaoke as out of tune squaking puts me off. But did try the massage which is part of the same building but with a separate entrance. There I had a very nice massage with a well-toned thirtysomething with. You pick them out of the fishbowl. No fs but handjob, dfk and hdht (hand down her trousers). Made the mistake of not negotiating beforehand and she wanted 1,000 then 500 and I gave her 300baht. She mentioned bungalow scenario for fs but I think you could also get them to come to the room if you stay in the hotel.
Regarding the Karaoke bar next to Ton Koon, can someone tell me the ratio of Thais to foreginers?. I stayed at the there a few days, but never entered the bar.
Pedro,
During all of my travels in Isaan, I was never told that a venue was Thai only.
Just six/seven weeks ago, Nong Khai did not at all disappoint me.
Freeler
Regarding the Karaoke bar next to Ton Koon, can someone tell me the ratio of Thais to foreginers?. I stayed at the there a few days, but never entered the bar.
On the nights I was there, the ratio was definitely in Thai direction, but I am used to that ratio. In fact, I think it works in my favor. The owner of the hotel also owns the massage and karaoke place next door. I never saw, heard or felt any animosity from any patron or staff. I think the owner would can them or toss them out if they did anything to limit or reduce income in either place. My stays at the hotel were always very pleasant and...........sanuk.
I would be interested in knowing if you noticed or talked with one of the girls behind the hotel reception desk that looks 1/2 Thai and farang (American, actually). Great personality.......divorced, child, pretty. On my next visit, I will try like hell to get a date with her.......away from hotel, of course.
Somewhere in here I have posted a pic of a young girl I met at the karaoke. I bar fined her and went to my room. She was GFE and very willing .....almost innocent in her manner. She promised on my next visit she will bring a gf. On one occasion, I came up short on cash, so she accepted 500 baht for ST. She still has nidnoi baby fat, but very narak.
Pedro,
During all of my travels in Isaan, I was never told that a venue was Thai only.
Just six/seven weeks ago, Nong Khai did not at all disappoint me.
FreelerHi Freeler
Just to make sure we are talking about same place. I approached from Prajak Road end. After approx 15.20 meters the road narrows down and then the place I went to was approx 10 meters further up on the left, same place?
Pedro 917
Regarding the Karaoke bar next to Ton Koon, can someone tell me the ratio of Thais to foreginers?. I stayed at the there a few days, but never entered the bar.Hi MM
On the 1 occasion I have stayed at the Ton Koon Hotel I was the only Farang in the karaoke bar but this did not appear to be a problem. It was a Thursday night so maybe that is a slow evening!
Pedro 917
I would be interested in knowing if you noticed or talked with one of the girls behind the hotel reception desk that looks 1/2 Thai and farang (American, actually). Great personality.......divorced, child, pretty. On my next visit, I will try like hell to get a date with her.......away from hotel, of course.
Ahh good eye! ;)
I talked with her for five minutes when things were slow not to interrupt things.Nice girl. I hope she's still there as well. Now that the little strip mall across the street from Robinsons is torn down, what will it be?.
Pedro,
Yep, same place. Been to all of them one time or another.
Coming from where you came from, girls are on the right before the narrowing of the Soi. After it narrows two or three places on your left, and at the end of the Soi, turn left and there are even more - that's where found my little fucktoy:)
Pedro,
Yep, same place. Been to all of them one time or another.
Coming from where you came from, girls are on the right before the narrowing of the Soi. After it narrows two or three places on your left, and at the end of the Soi, turn left and there are even more - that's where found my little fucktoy:)
Hi Freeler
I now think I know where it went wrong the place Goyave talked about must have been shut as there where no girls or establishments BEFORE the road narrowed down.
Either they were closed that night or are history!
Pedro
Cheong Boy
01-30-09, 07:58
Went to Udon Thani on 26 to 27 Jan 09. It's my first visit using information base on this forum.
Reach at 9am and check in hotel. Go to Soi 2 after lunch, almost all girls are still sleeping. ST price is 400B. Did not take any girl as all were still sleeping, but, papasan still open their room door to let me see their bodies.
Next tell tuk tuk drivers see if they could get me local school SYT. They have no idea at all despite I ask several tuk tuk drivers at different locations. Feel like taking next flight back to BKK.
In the end, go back hotel sleep till 7pm. Then go back soi 2 again. All girls I saw are from Lao. Got two young virgins offer by mamasan for 4000B for ST. Very funny, virgin is not sell at one week price. Although very young but I do not like this laotian gal body shape, big ass. The virgin also very scare of me as I talk to mamasan on the price. So did not take! I also not sure my big cock can break their vigin in 1 hour without oil. In the end take another gal from other house for LT at 1600B. Go back BKK on 26 Jan evening flight.
Will not return to Udon Thani unless want some virgin to sleep with in future. However, still wondering are the 2 gals real virgin? Although they act like one from their facial expression and the way they carry themselves but got mamasan sell virgin base on ST?
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Socrates69
02-03-09, 17:58
Thanks for the report/update on the scene.
There are a few things you could have improved on.
You got the high price at the brothals because you took a tuk2 there. They get a comish like the taxis that take you to ktvs in btm. The price is either 200-300.
Also, sounds like you went to early, but it may be for the better. If going at night, it is more dangerous as thais travel in packs and some like to fight when drunk. And they all are there to get drunk.
The virgin thing, I doubt it's true. It's probably a scam they dev. After a few farangs started requesting it, and got played.
Went to Udon Thani on 26 to 27 Jan 09. It's my first visit using information base on this forum.
Reach at 9am and check in hotel. Go to Soi 2 after lunch, almost all girls are still sleeping. ST price is 400B. Did not take any girl as all were still sleeping, but, papasan still open their room door to let me see their bodies.
Next tell tuk tuk drivers see if they could get me local school SYT. They have no idea at all despite I ask several tuk tuk drivers at different locations. Feel like taking next flight back to BKK.
In the end, go back hotel sleep till 7pm. Then go back soi 2 again. All girls I saw are from Lao. Got two young virgins offer by mamasan for 4000B for ST. Very funny, virgin is not sell at one week price. Although very young but I do not like this laotian gal body shape, big ass. The virgin also very scare of me as I talk to mamasan on the price. So did not take! I also not sure my big cock can break their vigin in 1 hour without oil. In the end take another gal from other house for LT at 1600B. Go back BKK on 26 Jan evening flight.
Will not return to Udon Thani unless want some virgin to sleep with in future. However, still wondering are the 2 gals real virgin? Although they act like one from their facial expression and the way they carry themselves but got mamasan sell virgin base on ST?
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Socrates69
02-04-09, 03:31
The better option is to have them take the girl to your hotel! Bungalow and st facilities are always subject to potential police raids!
Also, the girls all live in a house off an offshoot of soi7. If you know the location, you could go there any time of the day and pick from the liter.
You seem to be knowledgeable about the Lao brothel scene in Udon.
Have you ever been to Soi 7 where they present you with a line-up but don't have facilities on the premises and offer to take you and the lady of your choice to the "bungalow" instead?
Although the girls didn’t look half bad, I wasn’t quite comfortable with this option and passed on it.
However, it keeps intrigueing me, and I should appreciate to learn from someone with first-hand experience how this deal exactly works in practice.
Adelante Siempre
02-04-09, 14:46
A friend of my in Udon Thani told me that there were some NGO types in Udon Thani last week. Appearently they sit in the bar of one of the short time places and checking which farang is going with these undocumented Lao girls. Of course the Lao girls have no id and they are all Lao. Some German fag with a UNICEF T-shirt was walking around checking out farangs as they walked in.
I would be careful with the "virgin" comments as the place is on the NGO radar.
Of course the brothels are allowed to operate as money talks and bullshit walks.
The better option is to have them take the girl to your hotel! Bungalow and st facilities are always subject to potential police raids!
Also, the girls all live in a house off an offshoot of soi7. If you know the location, you could go there any time of the day and pick from the liter.
What are the prices for girls on soi 7 (soi lao)? Also better to avoid the tuk tuk to avoid comish?
A friend of my in Udon Thani told me that there were some NGO types in Udon Thani last week. Appearently they sit in the bar of one of the short time places and checking which farang is going with these undocumented Lao girls. Of course the Lao girls have no id and they are all Lao. Some German fag with a UNICEF T-shirt was walking around checking out farangs as they walked in.
I would be careful with the "virgin" comments as the place is on the NGO radar.
Of course the brothels are allowed to operate as money talks and bullshit walks.
There are no "virgins" in Udon................I've been there! :-) Sorry, couldn't pass that one up.
Adelante Siempre
02-06-09, 19:41
There are no "virgins" in Udon................I've been there! :-) Sorry, couldn't pass that one up.
Looking for virgins in a brothel area? That in itself is ludicrous.
I, for one, like them experienced.
These Lao girls are sweet, inexpensive, willing; no need to go to Laos.
Too bad most of them don't give BJ.
Soi 2 seems to be a tad more upscale than Soi Fei Deng.
I hope they stay in business for many years to come.
Nice to know there are 300 baht cuties out there.
Socrates69
02-09-09, 08:28
What are the prices for girls on soi 7 (soi lao)? Also better to avoid the tuk tuk to avoid comish?Yes, avoid tuk2 to avoid comish.
300 st when the place on the left at the beginning of soi 7 was open. I also paid 500 for a few hours with a girl that worked at the bar on the right midway down the soi...that place closed 4 years ago though.
Will be in Surin next week and may be able to escape the Thai GF. Are there any decent ST afternoon places in Surin?
Adelante......I think I failed to make my jest clear enough for you. I will work harder at it next time.
Yes, avoid tuk2 to avoid comish.
300 st when the place on the left at the beginning of soi 7 was open. I also paid 500 for a few hours with a girl that worked at the bar on the right midway down the soi...that place closed 4 years ago though.
Just curious what others are paying for soi 7 meat. I was there a year ago and was quoted 700-900 for ST on soi 7 in the bungalows. I tried negotiating the 700 down to 600 and they wouldn't budge, so I walked.
Socrates69
02-17-09, 08:46
Just curious what others are paying for soi 7 meat. I was there a year ago and was quoted 700-900 for ST on soi 7 in the bungalows. I tried negotiating the 700 down to 600 and they wouldn't budge, so I walked.As I tourist, I established the cheap price by going there on my own and paying the going rate. My friend who lives there, made the mistake of taking a tuk2 there. It took him 2-3 months of having to walk away before he got the real price. Breaking out of that price bracket is really a *****.
Fellas, I tried to find info on Nakon Phanom, nadda!. RTFF from top to bottom and came up dry. I'll be there in April on towards Laos and Vietnam. Help is always appreciated.
MeatMan
Fellas, I tried to find info on Nakon Phanom, nadda!. RTFF
Meatman I posted a report about Nakhon Panom a long time ago, and it was followed by an informative reply from Bowerboy: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=589503&highlight=nakhon#post589503
Both of us found little or nothing in Nakhon Panom. As you can see he reports there used to be some action on the Lao side of the river there. Anyway nothing in Nakhon Panom as far as anyone knows. If you find anything please share.
Meatman I posted a report about Nakhon Panom a long time ago, and it was followed by an informative reply from Bowerboy: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=589503&highlight=nakhon#post589503
Both of us found little or nothing in Nakhon Panom. As you can see he reports there used to be some action on the Lao side of the river there. Anyway nothing in Nakhon Panom as far as anyone knows. If you find anything please share.
Thanks for the info Opebo and will do a report soon.
Meatman,
Nothing much in NKP indeed.
You might try a glass faced karaoke on the night market street, follow the market away from the Mekong and it sits near the end of the market, on the North side of the road. The girl will do you in an adjacent building.
I tried google maps to locate it but no good luck - don't recognize NKP from above at all:(
Luck is useful:)
Had another look at google maps and got to grips with the scale of the map. I'm now sure the market road is Feuang Nakhon.
A = busterminal
b = probably ''The Spot'
http://maps.google.nl/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=17.397995,104.776826&daddr=Fueang+Nakhon%2F%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%9F%E0%B8%B7%E0%B9%88%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%87%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%A3&hl=nl&geocode=%3BFSiHCQEdwtU-Bg&mra=mi&mrsp=0,1&sz=17&sll=17.401097,104.782823&sspn=0.00776,0.01458&gl=nl&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=17
Wow, that must be the longest link yet!
One should always keep in mind that google is our friend...
Fellas, I tried to find info on Nakon Phanom, nadda!. RTFF from top to bottom and came up dry. I'll be there in April on towards Laos and Vietnam. Help is always appreciated.
MeatMan
Was in Nakon Phanom about 2 years ago to meet a young gal I had hooked up on my last visit by accident in Pattaya. She was very young and had come to Pattaya for an excursion (probably looking at the earning potential of her pussy). Any way I bumped into her quite by accident along soi 11 second road at about 11pm as she was going home with her auntie. I looked round at her as they went past and her auntie looked round at me. I wasn't interested in the auntie but persuaded her niece to come for a drink with me. Anyway persuaded her to come back to my hotel where she rang her auntie on her cell phone for permission to stay out all night. After that she insisited on sleeping fully clothed even after showering but I was feeling too horny and managed to persuade her to undress. After some kissing and foreplay I tried to enter her but she starting crying and shouting "Jep Jep Jep" which I suspected was because she was a virgin and so tight. Anyway I peservered but it was clear she was very inexperienced to the point of total ignorance but then that is a bit of a turn on for me :-) Ahhh so where were we....Nakhon Phanom. Well this girl was from Nakhon Phanom and I went to visit her about 2 months later when I returned to Thailand. I stayed in a nice hotel just outside of the centre on the Mekong river and the price was about 2000 baht. I checked out the local action but there is not much to speak of. Took one of many tuk tuks and told the driver what I was looking for, but we ended up at dilapidated shacks that had women that belonged in old people's homes. I saw no street action at all and there were a handful of bars that seemed to be the right kind of place though to be honest I never checked them out. I did go out on my own one night and ended up at a local disco which seemed to be full of sad middle aged thai people drinking whiskey listening to a live thai imitation rock band. I got chatted up by a middle aged wife of a couple I met there, whose husband was in the army. She would not leave me alone. I half expected to be found in the streets early in the morning with my throat cut. Joking aside I felt completely safe in Nakhon Pahnom but I cannot recommend the place for mongering action. I have heard that if you get the ferry across the Mekong River to Laos then there is lots of village action to be had, but sadly I never had the chance to go and I would appreciate it if anyone else can report on this? I did enjoy my stay in the area, it is like Thailand used to be many years ago, everyone is friendly, people in the street wave to you just because you are a farang andf it is the kind of place I would be happy to retire to with the right girl. But if you are visiting out of horny curiousity I would give it a miss. I travelled there from Udonn Thani by bus, it was 4 hours of torture. I would suggest flying if possible I would not wish that journey on my worst enemy!
I am in Udon Thani if there are any fellow travellers fancy hooking up for a beer or two although I plan on heading back to BKK on Thursday 26th March.
I have been here on a longer trip once before and thought I would try the area of Soi Fie Dang which I have heard so much about. If you have read this thread you will see previous reports describing this area. It is a small Soi close toi the centre of Udon Thani with numerous lady houses where you will be quoted around 400 baht for a short time. As has been suggested before, do not take a tuk tuk there otherwise you may be charged an inflated price with the tuk tuk driver taking his cut. That said it is not easy to find if you do not know the place and it can be a bit embarrassing asking some stranger as I did, only to find them giving you a knowing chuckle and shouting to their friends to tell them where I am going as the area is obviously well known to the locals.
I would suggest anyone who wishes to visit the area to ask a tuk tuk driver to take you to the Karin Hotel which is situated on Wattananuwong Road a few minutes from ther centre of Udon Thani. The cost should be no more than 40-50 baht by tuk tuk and will land you close enough to the action without the tuk tuk driver knowing where you are going. Once you walk into the lobby, wait for the tuk tuk to disappear and you then cross the main road in front of the hotel and bear right with your back to the hotel. About 5 minutes walk will bring you to Soi Fie Dang on the left hand side. I was there around 12 noon and still had mamasans running out greeting me and asking me in to view the girls. To be honest I did not partake as the area is very low class, the houses are little more than shacks and the girls though young and pretty did not look clean.
I then left and ended up at the shopping mall for a light lunch and a bit of shopping. The shopping mall is a big complex and is full of young women shopping or just hanging out and is a potential pick up spot. I saw two young women walking in the sports shop on the 4th floor and stopped to chat just to see if it was a possibility. One of the girls wasted no time in asking me if I was alone and I knew they were in play. I asked her would she like to come back with me to my hotel for an hour or so and she immediatley asked how much I would give. In the end she wanted 1000 baht but refused to let her friend come as well so I let them go. Both girls were from out of town, young and pretty so the place is always worth checking out for freelancers and you will find many girls making eye contact with you and smiling.
I am staying at the AEK apartments which are situated in the Udon Hospital Complex on Phosi Road. Very good security, no problem bringing girls back, in fact on my first night I had three women in my room and the receptionist didn't even bat an eyelid. It is a good 10 - 15 minutes walk to the centre of Udon and probably not the best choice if you want to be staying right next to the action. If you are walking to the apartment rather than driving then you have to walk through the hospital to get to your room and this is another potential hunting ground for none working girls. I am amazed at the number of gorgeous looking nurses and hospital staff that go out of their way to be friendly and I may try my luck on the way back this afternoon.
On a recent visit to Khon Kaen with a Thai colleague we found the selection very limited at every one of the 'nicer' soapy massage joints, perhaps because it was a rainy Friday night. We had thought of attending the small soi of 500 baht brothels but my friend thought they might not be fully open or might be understaffed due to the rain.
In the end we found hardly any girls at the 'Lily' massage in the Princess Hotel, but the price was still 1,000 all in. We found the largest and best selection at good old Ceasar's massage. Their 1,200 baht range ('Bird Bird') was empty, and there were also no girls in the 1,700 baht 'Superstar' level, but about 6-7 girls all in the middle level at 1,500 baht. I can't remember the name of this level, but nothing could beat 'Bird Bird'. We each saw a girl we liked, but went off to look at the top of the line - Kosa Hotel.
However, before we departed Princess Hotel, one of the uniformed functionaries in the parking lot asked us if he could call some girls for us to review. He offered these mysteries at the price of 1,200, and my friend thought that there was a small chance they would be high quality - such as college girls. We waited for a long time, and finally only one mediocre late-twenties cute-but-not-fantastic girl showed up. What a disappointment - no way for 1,200.
At Kosa we found very few girls, and the prices at 1,700 for regular and 2,000 for superstar just seemed offensive to us (they've gone up in the last year). So back to Ceasar at near closing time, where we lucked out and each got the girl we wanted from our previous perusal. The only drawback of this late arrival was the girls had been about to depart, so, perhaps understandably, the sessions were rushed. However on the bright side my girl was very cute, around 22-23, with very well done fake breasts, and provided the usual bath and vigourous soaping handjob, as well as both a mediocre blowjob and bbfs without me even asking. However partway through the banging she seemed to have a second thought, so I promised a barebacker's gratuity and to pull out. I can report that I honored the first at 300 bahts, but did not fully the latter. Hee hee!
Got the girl's number, which interestingly she bragged about to the pimp-boys downstairs. I would return for more if I were a bit more well-heeled or physically incapable of the trip to Pattaya. As I'm neither, that option is still better than Khon Kaen.
However on the bright side my girl was very cute, around 22-23, with very well done fake breasts, and provided the usual bath and vigourous soaping handjob, as well as both a mediocre blowjob and bbfs without me even asking. However partway through the banging she seemed to have a second thought, so I promised a barebacker's gratuity and to pull out. I can report that I honored the first at 300 bahts, but did not fully the latter. Hee hee!I have no words. Anyway interesting to know what goes on, inland.
Kurtweiler
03-28-09, 06:49
I will be staying in Nong Bua Lamphu for some days in April. Info on where to go and what to do, please?
Kurt,
Let's face it, there are just three options:
1- Bring your own
2- Don't go
3- Be a monk for the duration
I don't think its that bad, Freeler.
I've never been to Nong Bua Lampu, except to ride through on the bus, but I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't much there. However there might be something - a small 'song' - so please report to us if you find any, Kurtweiler.
But if there aren't any, please note that according to the map Udon Thani is only 49 kilometers away, and there you will find many brothels and bars as reported extensively on this forum.
I recently visited Mukdahan and found thusly.
I asked my tuktuk driver for 'song'. Small brothels. At a cheap price, hoping for Lao houses ala Udon Thani and Nong Khai. Thai friends had told me such do exist in Muck, but the driver didn't reveal them. He did take me to a 300 baht house near downtown but it was definitely Thai as the women (only two there in the afternoon) were not good looking and well over 30. I tried one for 300 but not before the mamasan pushed for 500 and called me 'keeneeow' when I refused. Honestly 300 was too much for the ones on offer.
Tuktuk then offered me 'beautiful' girls for 1, 500. Quite a price leap but these were to be delivered to my hotel. I almost took it but then asked him if they had 'massage' with beautiful girls. I was hoping for a soapy, as many small towns have one highend place. Well he ended up taking me to a regular massage place, where the girls were so-so. In their late twenties and not bad looking. So upstairs and did a slim girl with alas a blown out stomach (baby) bareback for 1, 500. The price was ridiculous, but I just wanted a story to tell before I left town. Later she said she was Lao, but I would never have guessed from the low quality and high price.
Leaving this place the tuk tuk showed me around that area. It is the area near the 'Mukdahan Tower', which looks like a squat water tower. Just outside town. As we circled the soi which goes round the tower quite a few girls called out to me from the little massage or kareoke joints there, and some were good looking. The place I wasted the 1, 500 was on the main road but most of the places were on this soi round the tower. To get there it is on the road out of town which passes the River City Hotel. You could aske the tuk tuk to take you to that hotel and then ask him to keep going till you see the tower on the left.
Lastly I have heard from acquantainces that the hotel delivery quality is pretty good, and I think you could probably bargain to more like 1,000, though that is still a lot of money.
After Mukdahan I stopped in Roi Et at the Mai Tai soapy where I had a cute slim girl only about 20 years old for 1, 500. Alas she refused to do absolutely anything. Very poor BJ. Just a waste of money and time.
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Hotman 666
04-15-09, 13:10
I do not often post in the Thailand forum (there are a lot of people who have more experience than me in this area) but I recently spent a few days in Udon Thani and thought my brief thoughts as a first time visitor to this city might be useful to others. Udon Thani is not a Pattaya or Bangkok but rather a "Non Tourist" town.
In my opinion the girls here are much more natural and relaxed and much less pushy than their BKK or Pattaya sisters and the whole scene is very "laid back. "
If you are passing through you. T. There are definitely places to go and plenty of opportunities if you look for them.
I stayed at Ton Koon Hotel. 700 Baht / night inc breakfast for a perfectly adequate, and large, room. Yes it is GF.
This hotel is around 20 mins walk, or a short Tuc Tuc ride from the centre of town. Most of the "entertainment" is within a short walk from the central bus station. Several Farrang bars around. The best known probably being The Irish Clock, run by an Englishman and offering good food.
My favourite bar / restaurant was Mojo. Just 5 mins walk from the bus station. Excellent food (Farrang and Thai) with very helpful management and friendly staff. In fact I think that I called in here each day I was in you. T. For a meal or just a drink or two. Currently they have "house doubles" of spirits on offer at 100 Baht (inc mixer.) Mojo is a little unusual as unlike many of the bars you can not bar fine the waitresses and there are no "lady drinks. "
However Dave and the other Farrangs there are a mine of useful information for a first time visitor on the city and the current info on the various places to go!
As has been mentioned previously Soi 1, 2 and 7 all have interesting venues and are only a few minutes walk from any of the central bars. Ton Koon Hotel (and several of the other hotels) have Karaoke and massage available and one hotel (I forget the name but 2 mins walk left from Ton Koon) has a fishbowl with a few rather cute girls when I visited.
A lot of the girls working the smaller establishments are from Laos with the staff being changed on a regular basis with new young girls being bought in, working for a few weeks and then, presumably, returning to Laos!
The 2 night markets (near the railway station) also had a few cute amateurs / part timers on the nights that I visited but, as usual YMMV!
So, Udon Thani is probably not a place that you would want to make a special journey to but, if you are there as a stopping off point on your way to or from Laos there is plenty to keep you amused for a few days.
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Ton Koon Hotel (and several of the other hotels) have Karaoke and massage available and one hotel (I forget the name but 2 mins walk left from Ton Koon) has a fishbowl with a few rather cute girls when I visited
You probably mean Oscar Massage at Charoensri Palace Hotel
Fish N Chips
04-16-09, 16:31
Guys if you’re going to Udon Thoni don’t stay at the Ton Koon, stay at the Ruy Suk Mansion.
It’s half the price, it’s closer to the entertainment, it’s brand new, free WiFi, free water, and AC. Get this it’s half the price of Ton Koon and is guest friendly!!!
We (a gaggle of friends) always stay there a good group of hobbyists that are always up to showing a new comer around. There’s Brits, a couple Americans, some Auzzies, some Swedes, and of course Canadians to boot.
My first trip up there I didn’t know shit, and didn’t know any one. All I knew was some of the old Vets had been talking about Udon being the next Pattaya and I need to go check it out.
So off I went, and yes this place will be the next Pattaya. Right now it’s laid back there isn’t any pushing of lady drinks, or “take me short time” shit, and the best part there isn’t one dam Indian guy try to sell you a new suite.
The must stops:
Harley O’Tools –owner Eddie
The G-Spot –owner Kenny
The Auzzie Bar -owner Justin
All good guys and will be happy to point you in the right direction.
BTW: here is the reservation page for the Ruy Suk Mansion check out the frick-N prices (http://www.********************.com/pb/wp_4827b7ca/wp_4827b7ca.html)
Mosquito2002
05-08-09, 15:29
Besides the early morning (before 7am visit to Soi 2), and another visit after 1pm are there any other mid-morning venues available in Udon Thani??
Don't like having to wake-up the girls on Soi 2, as they normally get to sleep around 7am and don't get up for lunch until 12-1pm.
Of course the mail doesn't open until 11am (weekdays) and 10am (weekends).
Addition: Any daytime action in Lam Bua Lampun, it's only 20 minutes form the house!!! How about Nong Wua So???
Addition: Any daytime action in Lam Bua Lampun, it's only 20 minutes form the house!!! How about Nong Wua So???
Can you speak thai? There is action pretty much everywhere in Thailand, you just have to know how to find it. I'm sure if you took a journey out there and poked around a bit you'd find something. Half the fun is in the discovery!
Bartchamdo
05-10-09, 14:07
Khon Khaen
Using past information posted on ISG, I checked out the area of Khon Kaen near the intersection of Prachasumran Street (where many clubs are, including Club Rad) and Si Chan. If you go about 100 meters north of this intersection there is a street running east to west that has a few brothels on it. By north, I mean walking away from Club Rad, and continuing on via a nearby street, even though Prachasumran street ends..
I walked down this small east to west street on a Friday night around 11:30 and had 2 older unattractive ladies (maybe in their 30s or 40s) offer me service for 500 baht. I wasn't interested and told them so, and the price quickly dropped to 400. I headed east and saw a few other brothels. One had a few younger ladies, one of which was wearing some cute lingerie. But the loudest talkative one who acted as a mouthpiece for the group was a bit rude to me. She was probably rude because I was a foreigner and made it clear I spoke minimal Thai. In the typical Isaan way, she acted pissed at the farang and made a fake gesture like she was slapping me. I never could understand why some ladies from Isaan act that way. Maybe she didn’t want to deal with some farang stranger? I talked to her in English and made a fake slapping gesture in return. I didn’t want to put up with the hassle to talk to the cutie, so I decided to pass, and left.
Looks like there was some potential in Khon Khaen, though I didn’t pursue it. I had tried to stop by Eric's bar earlier that same evening, but some neighbors told me it was closed for some sort of holiday. I didn’t check out any of the soapies, since I was short on cash. They seemed easy to find, though.
Nong Khai
The next day I arrived in Nong Khai. I was staying at a crummy little dive named “Pong Vichitr Hotel” that I heard about from Lonely Planet. They were all out of AC rooms, but for 200 baht I got a fan room. The clerks spoke little English, but I had a problem I needed help with (I left my towel in another room of the hotel... long story) and ended up talking to one of them for a while. After the problem was resolved he pulled me aside and made fucking gestures with his fingers and asked me “Lady?” I didn’t want to deal with him, since I had plans to walk to a brothel later, so just shrugged him off. But this little interaction leads me to believe this hotel might be guest friendly and at least one clerk is willing to hook you up. I’m not recommending this place because it’s shabby and everything is falling apart, but maybe someone out there with a small budget might find this tip useful. Thanks Lonely Planet, we mongers appreciate it!
The directions to find the brothel on Soi Sri Boon Ruang 2 with big breasted Lao ladies was very helpful and accurate. It took perhaps 20 minutes to walk there from Pong Vichitr. I arrived at around 8:30pm and found about 4 working girls out front as well as a baby and an old lady. Everyone seemed a bit young for my tastes (except for the old lady, ha ha). The only one there with truly large breasts looked like a teenager, so I stayed away from her. The others had small racks, though no smaller than normal. I selected a nice looking spinner, Nok, who quoted me 400 baht. Nok is 22 and from Vientiane. She kept trying to get me to pay first, but with a lot of patience and limited Thai I managed to communicate that I would pay after.
The room was a bit dingy with concrete walls and corrugated tin siding. Not exactly dirty, but definitely simple and rough. No shower. There were plenty of condoms under the pillow of the bed, but I brought my own. Nok’s performance was a mechanical. She wasn’t unfriendly, but distant. Not a GFE, but not icy either. Did pretty good BBJ for a bit, but refused to do more. No DFK. Then HJ and sex. She asked for a tip afterwards, and at first I wasn’t going to give her any. Then she asked for 40 baht, which seemed reasonable so I handed it over. Total = 440 baht.
I walked up to Meechai on my way back. On Meechai, between Soi Sri Boon Ruang 2 and Soi Sri Boon Ruang 1 was another brothel. This one had 2 ladies out front who called out to me. One of them had a black eye, which made me a little uncomfortable. What kind of cat house has a woman with a black eye trying to draw in customers? I didn't stop to talk and kept walking.
. However partway through the banging she seemed to have a second thought, so I promised a barebacker's gratuity and to pull out. I can report that I honored the first at 300 bahts, but did not fully the latter. Hee hee! Wow man, you're a real class act!
Besides the early morning (before 7am visit to Soi 2), and another visit after 1pm are there any other mid-morning venues available in Udon Thani??I suppose it might work if you can plan ahead a bit. Book someone from Soi 7 on the previous day, for delivery at a specified time. I asked for delivery at 11pm, they were punctual.
If delivery isn't convenient, the whole of Soi 7 is short-time drive-in hotels, looked fine to me.
I suppose it might work if you can plan ahead a bit. Book someone from Soi 7 on the previous day, for delivery at a specified time. I asked for delivery at 11pm, they were punctual.
If delivery isn't convenient, the whole of Soi 7 is short-time drive-in hotels, looked fine to me.
What are prices for girls on soi 7 going for now?
What are prices for girls on soi 7 going for now?At the first shop the papasan got me for 800 for a very cute girl. Wanted 150 more for room, but I decline and ask for delivery. He wanted the money on the spot, but agree when I prefer COD.
The next 3 shops all quoted me 700.
I walked down this small east to west street on a Friday night around 11:30 and had 2 older unattractive ladies (maybe in their 30s or 40s) offer me service for 500 baht. I wasn't interested and told them so, and the price quickly dropped to 400. I headed east and saw a few other brothels. One had a few younger ladies, one of which was wearing some cute lingerie. But the loudest talkative one who acted as a mouthpiece for the group was a bit rude to me. She was probably rude because I was a foreigner and made it clear I spoke minimal Thai. In the typical Isaan way, she acted pissed at the farang and made a fake gesture like she was slapping me. I never could understand why some ladies from Isaan act that way. Maybe she didn’t want to deal with some farang stranger?I don’t think she acted that way because you were a foreigner. Probably it was the yabba that was doing the talking.
I say so because I think I saw the girl you’re talking about. Last January a friend and I spent a weekend in KK and one day we were walking down that street when we saw a small group of brothel girls, a dishy one and a somewhat chubby one among them. My friend commented that the dishy one didn’t look half bad and that he wouldn’t mind spending some time with her.
When the chubby girl saw us looking (at the dishy one, of course ;)), she brashly approached us and offered herself for B500. Just like you, her overbearing behaviour discouraged us from approaching the cute girl. We declined and walked along but she didn’t take no for an answer and kept badgering us for a while till she got tired and went back. We could see she had a weird look in her eyes so we assumed she was under the influence.
Don’t take the slapping gesture seriously. Thai girls do it all the time. :)
I suppose it might work if you can plan ahead a bit. Book someone from Soi 7 on the previous day, for delivery at a specified time. I asked for delivery at 11pm, they were punctual. If delivery isn't convenient, the whole of Soi 7 is short-time drive-in hotels, looked fine to me.Huh? Drive-in hotels? I assume you used that metaphorically ;)
Mosquito2002
05-11-09, 15:46
Udon Soi 2 going rate being 400 baht, all in.
They'll try charging you 500 baht or an additional 100 baht for a room. Normally, in house rooms are included in the 400 baht and the brothels without rooms normally charge 300 baht plus 100 baht for a room. Rooms are located right across the street.
I'm sure you could get everything for 300 bath, but I'm happy with paying 400 baht for an afternoon get together with a sweet Lao lady.
Finding that a BBBJ is common and I've been lucky where the ladies I've choosen (limited English if any) work hard to make me happy!!!
At the first shop the papasan got me for 800 for a very cute girl. Wanted 150 more for room, but I decline and ask for delivery. He wanted the money on the spot, but agree when I prefer COD.
The next 3 shops all quoted me 700.Last time I was in Udon (a year ago) i was quoted 700 ST also. I spoke Thai to the pimp. Did you speak Thai or English? Just curious if it is even an issue.
Huh? Drive-in hotels? I assume you used that metaphorically ;)Like motels. Park your car outside the room. Or the motocy drops you in front of the room. I remember the same in Santipap (?) area in Chiang Mai .. got a gal in 99 Karaoke, and the motocy took us to a room like that, in a street like that.
Last time I was in Udon (a year ago) i was quoted 700 ST also. I spoke Thai to the pimp. Did you speak Thai or English? Just curious if it is even an issue.I spoke Thai, but caveman would also work (just grunt and point). Maybe caveman would work better than farang.
Understanding some Thai does help -- in Soi 2 the one pimp was telling the other "ask for 500", but I was already handing over the 400 -- the guy said "oh-ho, farang knows the price!"
I praise Opebo for his fine work and good reports. Keep banging the needy isaan girls!Thank you, I will. But alas I probably won't be reporting about it. Tiger has succeeded in having me censored, and I find it difficult to write about my experiences if I can't mention how the actual sex takes place. I always like to think I'm giving information to people who are looking for what I'm looking for.
But Tiger is certainly with the majority in this world, and so I will aquiesce to his influence, since, after all, I have no choice. Perhaps it is for the best as Germany was about to ban ISG because of me.
However, Amjeck, I can comment generally that you are correct about the pimp-connection in Issan. I have met two or three of these mama-san pimps around, and in smaller towns where traditional brothels are basically not tolerated anymore these ladies are a good connection. However so far I haven't found their quality to be any better than the old brothels used to have. (I guess essentially they're a substitute for the brothels).
Here is a good English speaking dentist in Udon Thani:
Prattana Dandhanin DDS
Panyavejinter Hospital
Telephone: 042 34 3111
Fax: 042 34 3065
Come on Opebo... Who the hell cares about what Tiger thinks? it is his opinion and, although he is entitled to it, it hardly commands censorship.
WTF??? Can you tell us what is going on here? Are you serious?As I understand it I may not mention certain types of sexual intercourse, as Tiger43's concerns elicited this ruling:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=870150&postcount=137
But I shall be glad to comment generally or answer questions about which bus line to ride to Udon - things like that. We have to be careful not to offend the Regierung.
As I understand it I may not mention certain types of sexual intercourse, as Tiger43's concerns elicited this ruling:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=870150&postcount=137
But I shall be glad to comment generally or answer questions about which bus line to ride to Udon - things like that. We have to be careful not to offend the Regierung.I saw that ruling and frankly do not interpret it as censoring you in any way. Quite the contrary, Jackson is telling guys like Tiger to restrict their complaints about unsafe sex practices to the Safe Sex thread, and to stop taunting you for your opinions and activities.
In short, your reports have not violated any of the forums rules IMO, and you should have no fear of continuing your informative and interesting contributions.
Mosquito2002
05-16-09, 15:05
PAUL2020,
How much does this dentist charge for a cleaning and general check-up, including x-ray.
Mosquito2002
Greetings Everyone,
I recently cleaned up this thread by deleting a number of off-topic and otherwise worthless posts by Tiger43, as well as a number responses made by other forum members to these deleted posts.
This cleanup process is not perfect, and it's possible that I may have inadvertently deleted a few otherwise legitimate posts. If you find that your own report was also deleted, please don't take it personally.
Thanks,
Jackson
Thank you, I will. But alas I probably won't be reporting about it. Tiger has succeeded in having me censored, and I find it difficult to write about my experiences if I can't mention how the actual sex takes place.
I saw that ruling and frankly do not interpret it as censoring you in any way. Quite the contrary, Jackson is telling guys like Tiger to restrict their complaints about unsafe sex practices to the Safe Sex thread, and to stop taunting you for your opinions and activities.
In short, your reports have not violated any of the forums rules IMO, and you should have no fear of continuing your informative and interesting contributions.Greetings everyone,
Daddy07 is indeed correct, and Opebo is welcome to post accurate reports of his experiences, bare back or covered.
For the sake of clarity, I have revised my post of 04-14-09 to remove my original references to reporting Opebo's posts.
The bottom line is this: I don't want a chorus of do-gooders chiming in every time somebody mentions that they didn't use a condom, but I also don't want guys taunting the do-gooders by unnecessarily amplifying their bare back exploits.
Admittedly the distinction is a fine line whose precise position is still under development.
Thanks,
Jackson
I thank our benefactor for his clarification and I will endeavor not to taunt anyone.
My backlog is like this - I've been visiting Khon Kaen a lot, where I find that more and more I gravitate towards Ceasar. Its a good mid-priced place where you get a bit more value than at Kosa, and the girls aren't quite so full of themselves. I suppose working at Kosa those girls rightfully think they're the 'best in town'. The girls at Lilly's (at the Princess hotel) are only 1,000, but they're just not quite up to the standard looks or age wise.
I've had several girls recently from the 1,200 baht (Bird Bird) category at Ceasar, and they've been great. Yes it is still a lot of money but somehow I just can't stand going to the little brothels in KK - as others have recently reported, most of the girls there are so impertinent! (And I do find that impertinence is predictive of bad service).
I also made one visit to the nearby (one hour further down the road) town of Maha Sarakham, where I found that the little brothels that were there years ago seem to be permanently gone. They even seemed to be literally knocked down and their soi utterly deserted. However in that part of the downtown near the old brothel soi - basically along the canal between the big hotel and the downtown shopping mall - I was approached each of the two nights I was there by a different mama-with-girls between nine and eleven PM. The mamas were old hags, each with 2-3 girls, all riding motorbikes (or sitting in wait upon them).
The offerings were similar to the old brothels - cute but far from beautiful 19-25 year old Thai girls, who charge Thai guys 500 baht. Though both evenings I was quoted 1,000 I easily bargained to 600. Poor service of course, but I got the bare minimum at a nearby short-time hotel. Interestingly, when I was at this hotel (called the 'Holiday Inn'), another mamasan had a gathering of girls in one of the rooms and she tried to approach me but my girl and her mama-san sort of interposed themselves. I think the second mama looked to have much better looking girls. Alas when I came out an hour later they had all left. If only we could get ahold of the phone numbers the local Thai guys have, as I think the good pimps never troll the streets.
There are often similar pimp-and-girl groups near the old bus station in Khon Kaen but I haven't had much luck with them. They seem more hard-bitten - the girls I tried in M.S. were like kind of awkward country girls. I also checked out the short time motel I know in Khon Kaen - I think it is called the Playboy Hotel - for such girls hanging around, but there were none. As I mentioned in a previous report the bellman at Princess would call girls for perusal, but they were nothing special and 1,200 baht. So, I'm still searching for connections in KK, which I visit much more often.
I should be making it up to Udon in the next couple of weeks. My Thai friends keep visiting there and report that all is open and functioning, but they always complain that their favorites are never there - in other words the turnover of girls is very high.
PAUL2020,
How much does this dentist charge for a cleaning and general check-up, including x-ray.
Mosquito2002Not sure about the X-ray. I paid for one last year but can't remember the cost. It wasn't much. Here is their official price list from April.
April 2009
Amalgam Filling 350
Composite resin filling 450
Sealant 300
Fluoride application 300
Pulpectomy and Pulpotomy 1200-1600
Stainless Steel crown 1200-1500
Space maintainer 1000-1200
Cleaning and Polishing full mouth 500-600
Diastema closure 1000-1200
Crown 5,000-12,000
Implant 55,000
Oral Examination, Sealant one tooth, Polishing full mouth, Fluoride Application 500
I went to soi 2 and wherever I go I was quoted 400 baths. 300 was impossible to get.
My friend didn't want me to go there because he said these girls are controlled but it's not so easy, girls can go to hotel alone.
I first took a girl in her room but had to pay the pimp first. Ok. No BBBJ and couldn't argue for it as I had alreaday paid.
500 was the price to take a girl at my hotel. I negociated to the pimp to pay after and he was ok. A guy took us to the charoensri grand hotel but he wanted I pay first. Maybe the girl told him this hotel was not girl friendly (he was) and they wanted the money first. I just said bye.
Do you pay before or after at soi 2?
Not sure about the X-ray. I paid for one last year but can't remember the cost. It wasn't much. Here is their official price list from April.
April 2009
Amalgam Filling 350
Composite resin filling 450
Sealant 300
Fluoride application 300
Pulpectomy and Pulpotomy 1200-1600
Stainless Steel crown 1200-1500
Space maintainer 1000-1200
Cleaning and Polishing full mouth 500-600
Diastema closure 1000-1200
Crown 5,000-12,000
Implant 55,000
Oral Examination, Sealant one tooth, Polishing full mouth, Fluoride Application 500
Thanks for the info, Paul, but in which city is this hospital?
Thanks for the info, Paul, but in which city is this hospital?
After taking the time to do further research (like scrolling down), I see it is Udon Thani. Oh, I do love Isaan.
Do you pay before or after at soi 2?
Unfortunately in most low-end Thai-oriented venues pay before is the norm. So you have little or no influence over the quality of service. Also on my last visits they have always demanded 400 baht, including from my Thai friends who have gone both with me and without me at times. I think you can still expect to get service for 300 at Soi Sow Fie Dang.
As for going to the Charoensi Grand for short time - that seems strange. Isn't that a 1,000-1,500 baht hotel? Better go to a cheaper place. No one is comfortable in such a place, least of all working girls whose legal status may be questionable.
Mosquito2002
05-18-09, 05:06
Confirm, pay upfront. Normally, 400 baht which will include the on site room or off-sight room. I normally tip 200 baht for good service and 100 baht for the standard nip and tug!!!
Yes, the Grand hotel runs 1.5K plus per night!!!
sir,
i am not an angel, or i else i would not pay for this website and for the services of asian ladies, but i do not believe it is wise, reporting about sex with **** girls, experiences with drugs and unprotected sex with prostitutes on this forum, or even bragging about it. since bareback sex is mostly glorified under the isaan thread, i replied there and not under the safer sex thread. i doubt anybody is reading the latter, before he needs advice for his itching dick or worse things. maybe most of the bb-reports are just fiction. "history of o".
thank you, i will. but alas i probably won't be reporting about it. tiger has succeeded in having me censored, and i find it difficult to write about my experiences if i can't mention how the actual sex takes place. i always like to think i'm giving information to people who are looking for what i'm looking for.
but tiger is certainly with the majority in this world, and so i will aquiesce to his influence, since, after all, i have no choice. perhaps it is for the best as germany was about to ban isg because of me.
however, amjeck, i can comment generally that you are correct about the pimp-connection in issan. i have met two or three of these mama-san pimps around, and in smaller towns where traditional brothels are basically not tolerated anymore these ladies are a good connection. however so far i haven't found their quality to be any better than the old brothels used to have. (i guess essentially they're a substitute for the brothels).
hi jackson,
can you please ban this sanctimonious fucking wanker !
i thought that he was to be deleted, according to your post a couple of days ago regarding subject matter.
thanking you in anticipation.
kiwi
sir,
i am not an angel, or i else i would not pay for this website and for the services of asian ladies, but i do not believe it is wise, reporting about sex with **** girls, experiences with drugs and unprotected sex with prostitutes on this forum, or even bragging about it. since bareback sex is mostly glorified under the isaan thread, i replied there and not under the safer sex thread. i doubt anybody is reading the latter, before he needs advice for his itching dick or worse things. maybe most of the bb-reports are just fiction. "history of o".
NicFrenchy
05-20-09, 01:47
i do not believe it is wise, reporting about sex with **** girls, experiences with drugs and unprotected sex with prostitutes on this forum, or even bragging about it.
well, it doesn't really matter what you believe, tiger43, it only matters what the rules allow us (or not) to post.
Sir,
Who makes the rules? God? The webmaster promises a hassle free sex website for 20 USD per year. I want to enjoy the simple pleasures of life for a little money, because I am not as attractive any more, that anybody will pay me for sex, but I do not want to get into trouble if I am using this website.
Well, it doesn't really matter what you believe, Tiger43, it only matters what the rules allow us (or not) to post.
NicFrenchy
05-21-09, 02:10
Sir,
Who makes the rules? God? The webmaster promises a hassle free sex website for 20 USD per year. I want to enjoy the simple pleasures of life for a little money, because I am not as attractive any more, that anybody will pay me for sex, but I do not want to get into trouble if I am using this website.
Sir,
I hate to be the one to have to tell you this but I guess you missed the memo? God does not exist ;)
In ISG, Jackson makes the rules and here they are for your perusal: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-forumrules.php
Have fun
Mr. Tiger......I don't know you, and you might well be a really nice guy, but in here you are a definite distraction. In electrical terms, you are "out of phase" with the norms and karma of this site. In Thailand, the Thais regard confrontation as a very negative behavior. In ISG, confrontation is not really appreciated either. Please just mellow a bit and simply enjoy. You might consider adding a few photos now and then also.
Dear Mr. Oosik,
You are right, I have to get back to SE-Asia and China soon, so I can enjoy the excellent services of the pretty ladies. Before I can, I have to earn more money in Germany. Sometimes I give the girls not only a tip, but also a couple of farang size condoms (top quality made in Germany) for their farang customers who cannot afford them. They apreciate it very much. So you are also right, that I am really a nice guy, as you are.
Mr. Tiger......I don't know you, and you might well be a really nice guy, but in here you are a definite distraction. In electrical terms, you are "out of phase" with the norms and karma of this site. In Thailand, the Thais regard confrontation as a very negative behavior. In ISG, confrontation is not really appreciated either. Please just mellow a bit and simply enjoy. You might consider adding a few photos now and then also.
Mosquito2002
05-21-09, 21:31
Been living in Udon Thani for the past 8 months, and I still haven't found a place that sells corn beef (slab). Tesco/Big C/Carrefour all have canned corn beef, but I'm dying for a decent slab of corn beef that I can cook myself with some cabbage.
Been living in Udon Thani for the past 8 months, and I still haven't found a place that sells corn beef (slab). Tesco/Big C/Carrefour all have canned corn beef, but I'm dying for a decent slab of corn beef that I can cook myself with some cabbage.
In desperation, buy some salt pork and make pig ass and cabbage. That's what my grandfather called it. Not healthy, but tasty. Oh, he died of heart failure in his 60's.
Hi Jackson,
Can you please ban this sanctimonious fucking wanker !
I thought that he was to be deleted, according to your post a couple of days ago regarding subject matter.
Thanking you in anticipation.
KiwiFully agree with kiwi. This guy excepted giving moral lessons is useless on this thread. But more of all, he probably never been in such kind of place. Bareback sex is offered in all the asian country, no just in isaan.
Why you became shock here? Did you think the majority of the girl in Cambodia are legal? Why you don t give moral lesson in Cambodia section?
For drug the large majority of the hookers take yaba in Thailand/cambo, shabu in Philippines, icebaby in Malaysia/indonesia. Just check the arms of the hookers instead of faking surprise.
Come back to the reality Tiger43. You re shock because some poster are more honest in their post than many.
Another visit to Udon. I'm beginning to tire of the place, but my Thai friends always drag me there. They love it.
As for me this go round on Soi Sow Fie Dang I got service for 300 baht as before. I can report that there are far, far more and better looking girls on the soi than on many previous visits. However the girl I was with was very reluctant to agree to my requests for sex as nature intended, and when she finally did, she lay there looking like she hated me the whole time. I soldiered on for some 30 minutes of see-saw, but finally gave up - I just can't finish with the girl acting like its killing her.
She was quite cute though, and the standard on the Soi had become quite high. It was my Thai friend's first time actually taking girls from Sow Fie Dang - one was quite happy, the other not so much due to being a typical picky Thai guy.
Later we visited Soi 2, attending the 'better' house as my friends always like to do. My unsatisfied friend and I each took a girl - he one of the few 800 baht 'special' girls (she really was hot) - and I one of the regular 600 baht girls. My girl looked just as hot in my opinion, but there was something about his that made her the mot just for the Thai taste. He later reported satisfactory service from this premium girl.
Alas in the room, though my girl was smiley, fun, frisky and vivacious, she would not agree to anything that I would enjoy or the Holy Father approve. Well, to be fair there was a very brief and poor BBBJ, but nothing else. I ended up trying it her plasticine way but of course experienced no pleasure or release. After a while I stopped and we tried BBHJ, but to no avail. The Lao girls seem to be becoming more and more insistent on the modern repulsive ways. On the bright side the girl's breasts were amazing - you know that gravity defying kind you get in Lao and Viets sometimes. But what good is that without service?
A visit to Udon with no ejaculation was a depressing experience.
Perfect Breasts, Bad Service:
I stopped in at Roi Et again, but couldn't find anything going other than the same old Mai Tai Soapy, where yet again I got a cute girl and bad service, just like the last time (though a different girl). Prices were at 1,200, 1,500, and 1,700, which seems to be fairly common at these places.
Just like last time, I thought I was taking the cutest girl in the place, and it looked like she was in the 1,700 section, but when I paid I was only charged 1,500. So it just goes to show that 1) Thai tastes differ from ours a bit, and 2) the girls sit where they like.
Driving on to Mukdahan I was too tired to seek out the 300-500 baht 'Song' that I keep hearing do exist there, a la Udon. I struck up a conversation with a certain type of seedy-but-prosperous older Thai guy and asked him if there were any and he said there were definitely, but he wasn't up for precise directions. Finally I let the tuk tuks lead me to 'ab nam nuit', hoping for a soapy, but they took me back to the area around 'Mukdahan Tower', where there are little massage and kareoke joints as covers for prostitution.
There I was shown a really knockout selection of cute Lao girls - about the level of Soi Sow Fie Dang in Udon, but all in their early twenties (which is more my style anyway). Two offered to go with me together so I just flipped a coin to choose between them, which seemed to amuse them. The charge was 240 for a Thai massage - apparently only for an hour because it was pretty rudimentary.
Afterwards she offered sex for 2,000 baht. In the old days, when Southeast Asia was a better place, I would have been too offended by a price like that to even continue negotiations. As it was, I said, no, 1,000. She balked at that, so I offered 1,500 but only for the natural product without preservatives. She agreed, and after she returned from the shower I realized she was an absolute doll - those amazing, full, upstanding breasts you get in Lao and Viet girls but rarely in Thais.
Anyway, the sex was very poor as there was no BJ and after a mere 20 minutes she was crying 'jep jep' 'too big', etc., as these upcountry girls invariably do. So I left unrequited. Opebo is more a 60 minute man, and alas in this country that means only in the civilized parts is he likely to gain satisfaction.
Upon reflection, I can state that I have almost never (maybe 2 times in 8 years) had what I would consider 'great sex' in Issan, or for that matter anywhere in Thailand outside of Pattaya/Bangkok. I have fairly often been able to find what I would call 'adequate' sex in Isaan, but the vast majority of the time the sex there is very bad. Very, very bad. But I recommend it to those of you who get off on perfect breasts and bad service.
Opebo, I enjoyed your report, but am wondering about your statement that in your experience, you see Isaan as having less to offer in terms of sexual performance. I am not questioning your experiences, but am wondering if perhaps you are neglecting to consider that on those occasions your performance was also a factor in the results. After all, it takes two to tango, and girls are pretty much the same everywhere with exceptions for cultural differences. Example: Vietnam has a more critcal attitude about pre-marital sex than does Thailand. So, that being the case, and in wondering if you are generalizing about sexual performance in Isaan, the other possibility is perhaps your "performance" or attitude (pre-disposed to receiving less than stellar perfomance in Isaan). Just wondering. Not intended to cast dispersions on your skills.
Opebo, I am not questioning your experiences, but...
Oosik, your post is a penetrating one, but I was referring to the issue of performance - which is about skill, attitude, and experience. The girls in Pattaya have a large experience of the porno-minded farang customer. He may be fairly well endowed and bang for lengthy periods of time. He may demand skillful oral or even anal sex (or anyway these are tremendous selling points).
By contrast the girls in Issan have almost entirely Thai men as customers, and these fellows, while extremely demanding about the appearance of the girl, don't seem to care much at all about service. The typical Isaan service provider either gives no BBBJ or just the most perfunctory one. She is used to the intercourse only lasting a few minutes at most. I think she's also used to the man being so very horny that he needs little encouragement (Thai guys may not be large or long lasting, but as I understand it they are Johnny On the Spot).
The only 'great' sex I had in Issan was I think with a girl just come back from Pattaya, and the only 'good' sex I get (and I do get it often) is with regulars with whom I have a 'chemistry'. They can't do much in the way of extras, but they get into the sex and seem to enjoy a good long hard bang.
Ralph Kramden
05-30-09, 14:30
Opebo
No matter what you report on whether good, bad or indifferent, your reports are always colorful enough to keep me interested and entertained. Most of the rest of the writers on this board, especially the MP section as of late, are simply boring.
Keep UP the good work.
Oosik, your post is a penetrating one, but I was referring to the issue of performance - which is about skill, attitude, and experience. The girls in Pattaya have a large experience of the porno-minded farang customer. He may be fairly well endowed and bang for lengthy periods of time. He may demand skillful oral or even anal sex (or anyway these are tremendous selling points).
By contrast the girls in Issan have almost entirely Thai men as customers, and these fellows, while extremely demanding about the appearance of the girl, don't seem to care much at all about service. The typical Isaan service provider either gives no BBBJ or just the most perfunctory one. She is used to the intercourse only lasting a few minutes at most. I think she's also used to the man being so very horny that he needs little encouragement (Thai guys may not be large or long lasting, but as I understand it they are Johnny On the Spot).
The only 'great' sex I had in Issan was I think with a girl just come back from Pattaya, and the only 'good' sex I get (and I do get it often) is with regulars with whom I have a 'chemistry'. They can't do much in the way of extras, but they get into the sex and seem to enjoy a good long hard bang.
OK, with your added expanation, I would agree that Pattaya, etc., experience would be more "worldly" than girls of Isaan who just do their thing with mostly Thai men. I have found, however, that many of the Isaan girls I have been with greatly enjoy a more gentle, slow, tender, and long lasting love session....especially when the cunnilingus is done in a quality fashion with the pleasure of the girl being foremost, instead of that of the man. I have had Isaan girls tell me that the "word" among most girls with farang experiences is that farangs are much preferred, except for those farangs who have only themselves in mind when engaging in sex. And yes, your reports ARE interesting. Have you or anyone reading this ever been to the Modern Ban Dung Resort outside of Ban Dung....east northeast of Udon? If so, I'd be interested in your comments. I was there once and would love to return. Memorable night.
....especially when the cunnilingus is done in a quality fashion with the pleasure of the girl being foremost, instead of that of the man. I have had Isaan girls tell me that the "word" among most girls with farang experiences is that farangs are much preferred, except for those farangs who have only themselves in mind when engaging in sex.
Um.. I am paying these girls, so I would think that the pleasure 'of the man' - namely me - should be if not foremost at least given some consideration. And at 1,000-1,500 baht I'd say quite a lot of consideration. Alas, such is not often the case, because, as I mentioned, the service providers in Isaan provide very bad service, on average.
Anyway, while cunnilingus isn't really 'my thing', I have often asked girls to do it just to see what they'll say (and in the vain hope that it will get them going), but in fact the vast majority of Issan girls categorically refuse to allow it.
....And yes, your reports ARE interesting. Have you or anyone reading this ever been to the Modern Ban Dung Resort outside of Ban Dung....east northeast of Udon? If so, I'd be interested in your comments. I was there once and would love to return. Memorable night.
No I have not. Is that on some big manmade lake? Anyway I've not been there.. is it a good place for girls?
Hi Oosik
No disrespect to you but i can only assume you havent spent much time in the brothels and establishments that Opebo is referring to. He is absolutely correct in his analysis and you would have to be very brave and actually downright stupid to be trying cunnilingus in the establishments he is talking about...it would be unthinkable. You do not go to those establishments to make love..you go there to unload and get out..the benefit is perfect firm Laos bodies, not the actual sex itself.
I am in Udon now and then Nong Khai tomorrow.
No offence intended.
You are correct, Bowerboy, I don't spend much time in brothels or places with Bgirls and freelancers. My partners are almost entirely business or professional women. Yes, on occasion I partake, but I am very careful about where I eat my meals.
RCA Knight
05-31-09, 06:13
When you go into any brothels in Issan or elsewhere in Thailand, do not look into the garbage can. There is always a whole pile of juicy condoms to make good apetite for you.
You could be the #15th guy by 3PM.
Mosquito2002
05-31-09, 07:59
Irish Cock for dinner, had a steak with fries/chips and it was good.
Hit a few bars on the same street (place was dead), most bars had at least one cutie and very few customers. Night-Out Complex was hurting for customers, most customers looked like local farangs. Asking price was 300 baht barfine and 1000 baht S/T and 1500 LT.
The Irish Cock waitresses are the best looking on the street!!!
At 9:30 headed to the go-go (only one in Udon Thani), about 12-14 ladies dancing and they changed out regularly (after about 1-2 songs). Went thru the line-up in about an hour. Drinks were 100 baht, this included ladies drinks. Girls were asking 2K shorttime, didn't ask the LT price, as I didn't want to laugh in the ladies face twice!! No bear breasts, they kept their semi-skimpy bikinis on all the time and once off stage they put on a long shirt.
Warning: Going to the restroom will involve getting a massage from a guy while you're pissing!!!
While walking around did see a few pairs of females walking around, per previous posts they could be looking for action.......but they were all past their expiration date/prime.
Didn't hit Mojo's, noticed the other Irish bar (angled on the other side of the street from the Irish Cock, can't remember the name) was closed for a few months due to limited customers in town.
Have you or anyone reading this ever been to the Modern Ban Dung Resort outside of Ban Dung....east northeast of Udon? If so, I'd be interested in your comments. I was there once and would love to return. Memorable night.
Spent a night at the resort last year. We were there on a Monday night and there were lots of girls at the Karaoke with most of them being pretty good looking. I was able to last for an hour there before I just had to leave. I wasn't sure of the system, my partner found out later, and went home alone. The lady that runs the place was rather nice and funny and drunk, I bet she would have been fun a few years back. Actually I bet she'd be fun right now.
Asking price was 300 baht barfine and 1000 baht S/T and 1500 LT.
Really outrageous. While I admit they're not a precise substitute because of the poor service, the girls of the hidden sois are generally much better looking than the girls in those farang bars, and they charge only 300-600 baht short time. It is strange that the girls in the farang bars can get away with charging so much.
Previous reports on Buriram will, I think, be found on the Other Areas Topic.
Freeler previously mentioned several bars to be found round the bend on the road that leads from the train station to the bus station.
These bars are generally open in the evenings, although some are partially open in the afternoon, with a spattering of girls. More often than not the girls have their kids with them in the afternoons.
To pinpoint the bars, they are located either side of the Siam Hotel, a rather nice quiet hotel, situate back from the road with rooms starting at 700bt.
If you were to walk up the soi directly opposite the entrance to the Siam Hotel, either late morning or afternoon you would see several girls sitting around in their rooms which line the soi, all of whom will seek you out for pam pam at 500bt.
Unfortunately they will not accept 300bt, as it appears several people require payoffs, but at 500bt the service is good, and Opebo should have no complaints!
It is strange that the girls in the farang bars can get away with charging so much.
Have a look at the punters that frequent these bars then you'll understand.
This visit I arrived at about 11:30 PM, which wasn't so good. Ceasar had almost no girls left, and the majordomo just tried to foist one off on me. I hate when there's no choice. So I left, and took a look at Kosa, but it was already almost midnight by then, and all the girls were leaving. Several Thai guys and I arrived at the same moment, and all milled about in apparent hope of getting service, but the girls seemed very eager to leave and the dude told me they were 'just closing'. So, I left.
I then found my way over to the small soi of brothels near downtown, which are, happily, still open. But, as usual, I found them offputting in some way. The girls just seem a bit impertinent and I anticipated so much trouble in the room above about proper service. So, I left.
Finally I explored around the old non-air-con bus station - by now it must have been 12:30 or so. By the way driving around town on this weekend night was a headache - so many people out and so much going on. I hate driving, and Khon Kaen always seems full of prosperous Thais having their night out. I always feel old and broke in Khon Kaen with all those rich young Thais about.
So anyway, at the bus station I found some streetwalkers, some of which were actually out on their own. I stopped and talked to a couple here and there, and they were up for sex for 500 baht but given that they weren't very good looking I decided to make my stipulations before taking; they both declined.
I was then approached by a lady boy who was offering an actual girl as well as himself. I left. Finally round the corner by another entrance of the bus station I found several more freelancers, and a mamasan who had two or three girls. One of her girls was a very sexy one, or anyway to my taste - though she was quite dark, she was tall, slim, and extremely nubile looking. Tattoos as well. Don't get me wrong, the trashy girl isn't my easthetic, its just that I do find they perform better. Mama offered this girl at 1,000 baht, and all the others in the area for just 500. I balked, not wanting the worse ones at all, and offering 500 for the cute one. I even walked back to my car to leave, when mama ran after me and we worked out a deal - 500 to mama now, and 200 more to the girl when we finished.
So, off to Playboy Motel, which is a bit out of town past the train station - 150 baht shorttime rooms with mirrors, round bed, and ancient porn movies on the TV. The girl turned out to be very nice with her clothes off.. nice firm breasts, smooth skin, peirced navel. Amazingly she performed a very creditable blow job! I had expected nothing in the usual Issan style. However there was a quite extended dispute about bareback, but I finally had my way after promising to 'sai nam tini' pointing at her breasts. I have no idea if that is correct but it worked.
Sex was very good - true to form, like many tattooed darker, 'bad girls', her vagina was reasonably copious and durable, thus allowing an endowed man to take his pleasure and his time. A near Pattaya level bang! I pulled out as promised (what a sterling character) and even gave a hundred baht tip (perhaps foolhardy). Dropped her back at the bus station with a sense of surprise and satisfaction. The only real downside of the evening was that the girl's manner was almost like a streetwalker back home - rather cold and distant.
Opebo,
Would that be the aircon or the ordinary bus station?
Thanks,
Freeler
Bloodstock
06-06-09, 15:51
This visit I arrived at about 11:30 PM, which wasn't so good. Ceasar had almost no girls left, and the majordomo just tried to foist one off on me. I hate when there's no choice. So I left, and took a look at Kosa, but it was already almost midnight by then, and all the girls were leaving. Several Thai guys and I arrived at the same moment, and all milled about in apparent hope of getting service, but the girls seemed very eager to leave and the dude told me they were 'just closing'. So, I left.
I then found my way over to the small soi of brothels near downtown, which are, happily, still open. But, as usual, I found them offputting in some way. The girls just seem a bit impertinent and I anticipated so much trouble in the room above about proper service. So, I left.
Finally I explored around the old non-air-con bus station - by now it must have been 12:30 or so. By the way driving around town on this weekend night was a headache - so many people out and so much going on. I hate driving, and Khon Kaen always seems full of prosperous Thais having their night out. I always feel old and broke in Khon Kaen with all those rich young Thais about.
So anyway, at the bus station I found some streetwalkers, some of which were actually out on their own. I stopped and talked to a couple here and there, and they were up for sex for 500 baht but given that they weren't very good looking I decided to make my stipulations before taking; they both declined.
I was then approached by a lady boy who was offering an actual girl as well as himself. I left. Finally round the corner by another entrance of the bus station I found several more freelancers, and a mamasan who had two or three girls. One of her girls was a very sexy one, or anyway to my taste - though she was quite dark, she was tall, slim, and extremely nubile looking. Tattoos as well. Don't get me wrong, the trashy girl isn't my easthetic, its just that I do find they perform better. Mama offered this girl at 1,000 baht, and all the others in the area for just 500. I balked, not wanting the worse ones at all, and offering 500 for the cute one. I even walked back to my car to leave, when mama ran after me and we worked out a deal - 500 to mama now, and 200 more to the girl when we finished.
So, off to Playboy Motel, which is a bit out of town past the train station - 150 baht shorttime rooms with mirrors, round bed, and ancient porn movies on the TV. The girl turned out to be very nice with her clothes off.. nice firm breasts, smooth skin, peirced navel. Amazingly she performed a very creditable blow job! I had expected nothing in the usual Issan style. However there was a quite extended dispute about bareback, but I finally had my way after promising to 'sai nam tini' pointing at her breasts. I have no idea if that is correct but it worked.
Sex was very good - true to form, like many tattooed darker, 'bad girls', her vagina was reasonably copious and durable, thus allowing an endowed man to take his pleasure and his time. A near Pattaya level bang! I pulled out as promised (what a sterling character) and even gave a hundred baht tip (perhaps foolhardy). Dropped her back at the bus station with a sense of surprise and satisfaction. The only real downside of the evening was that the girl's manner was almost like a streetwalker back home - rather cold and distant.Great report! You do seem to get around. Perhaps you have some advice on where a good place to find girls like the one you mentioned in your report would be in Korat? I've skimmed through the Korat-specific thread, although mostly found reference to the girls in the park and the various more expensive massage places.
I'd be happy to hear from anyone for that matter for good places to find "bad" girls in Korat, preferably pierced and tattooed.
That scene is found at the ordinary bus station, Freeler, and on the streets near there. I think I saw a total of 7-8 girls around there.
Great report! You do seem to get around. Perhaps you have some advice on where a good place to find girls like the one you mentioned in your report would be in Korat? I've skimmed through the Korat-specific thread, although mostly found reference to the girls in the park and the various more expensive massage places.
Thanks Blood, but I've only been mongering in Korat a few times, and each time I wrote a report - you might be able to find them in the 'Other Areas' section as they're a few years old now. As you say some people like the park but I always had pretty poor experiences with girls from there - very hostile, like american streetwalkers, with poor service. Ugly too. I've never been to high-end places in Korat, only in Khon Kaen.
One night I got a tuk tuk to show me a couple places around town that looked like mini-soapies (girls sitting in a lineup with numbers) where if I remember I was quoted in the 500-600 baht range. He also took me to a couple of places that one might classify as similar to 'song' or like the small brothels I mentioned in my previous report on Khon Kaen. But none of these places, either down and dirty brothel or mini (cheap) soapy seemed to be in its own soi of establishments.. more like he had to take me by tuk tuk to each one, which was free standing on its own. Unusual. Anyway I never did any sex in any of those places, but I guess its around.
... the other Irish bar (angled on the other side of the street from the Irish Cock, can't remember the name) was closed for a few months due to limited customers in town.Yes, Harley O'Toole is closed.
The girls now work in Harmony Bar (diagonally opposite Adulyadet, Soi 2)
I returned a few days later to the bus station area in Khon Kaen, hoping to find the same girl. Alas she was not there (are they ever?), and I should have just left and come back another day, but it was late and there were no options left. Mamasan pushed a young cute one on me, and we bargained to 800 baht - 500 to Mama, and 300 after the deed was done.
I had a bad feeling of course, as I often do, and when we got to the hotel it turned out she wouldn't do anything that I wanted to do. She then called Mama, and on the phone it sounded like she was convinced to acquiesce to Mr. Farang's demands. But, unfortunately after hanging up she continued recalcitrant. Shortly thereafter I gave up in frustration, and she locked herself in the bathroom.
At this point I just left - went outside and drove away, leaving her to make her own way back to the Stroll. In retrospect it seems a hotheaded thing to do, and it probably prevents me from accessing those bus station girls again, but at the time I just wanted away from yet another bad-service-girl. Upcountry it is so much the norm that sometimes one despairs. Anyway not only were the prices a bit high, I couldn't help feeling nervous about how verifiable the ages of the girls might be when push came to shove. So its probably for the best I have burned that bridge.
Man, going with a new girl is such a risk - not only is the chance about 90% that it will be bad, there's even a good chance it will lead to a loss of the option of visiting a decent one you had before from the same venue.
Bloodstock
06-12-09, 06:46
Thanks Blood, but I've only been mongering in Korat a few times, and each time I wrote a report - you might be able to find them in the 'Other Areas' section as they're a few years old now. As you say some people like the park but I always had pretty poor experiences with girls from there - very hostile, like american streetwalkers, with poor service. Ugly too. I've never been to high-end places in Korat, only in Khon Kaen.
One night I got a tuk tuk to show me a couple places around town that looked like mini-soapies (girls sitting in a lineup with numbers) where if I remember I was quoted in the 500-600 baht range. He also took me to a couple of places that one might classify as similar to 'song' or like the small brothels I mentioned in my previous report on Khon Kaen. But none of these places, either down and dirty brothel or mini (cheap) soapy seemed to be in its own soi of establishments.. more like he had to take me by tuk tuk to each one, which was free standing on its own. Unusual. Anyway I never did any sex in any of those places, but I guess its around.Thanks for your answer, Opebo. I guess I will just have to see what I can find when I get there. Keep up the good work!
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Man, going with a new girl is such a risk - not only is the chance about 90% that it will be bad, there's even a good chance it will lead to a loss of the option of visiting a decent one you had before from the same venue.[/QUOTE]
Yes, Opebo, I think we all have had some bad luck on occasions with the pay for play girls, but that is, after all, part of the fun and challenge of being the "hunter." We keep looking for that very special one.
You apparently are quite experienced at mongering, and I do not want to sound like the "all knowing one" when it comes to mongering, but from my experience it is more of a challenge, and more satisfying to "hunt" amongst the non-professional ladies. I don't know anything about you....retired?.....young/old?......profession?....social circle?.....etc., but in my case, I really enjoy meeting by chance or by design young (and sometimes older) women who hold down professional jobs in business, education, government, etc., and seeing where it will go. Due to the work I do, I have been very fortunate to meet many "connected" Thais. Parties, dinners, artistic performances, etc., become the venue for the ensuing encounters. The critical factor in successful mongering with this strategy is .......don't let the left hand know what the right hand is doing. Thai women are like all women...they are very territorial, and many joke about carrying a knife for male surgery, but some, in fact DO. Every once in a while, I get the urge to forgo the chicanery and visit a local soapy, because sometimes, I just want to GET LAID. To each his own, however. That is what is so wonderful about the LOS.......the menu of opportunities is extensive. I leave you with a caveat, however........BE VERY CAREFUL WITH WHOM YOU PARTAKE IN SEX GAMES, ESPECIALLY IF IT INVOLVES ROPES OR CORDS. :-)
Oosik, I do end up with the kind of girls you describe, at times, but I never pursue that sort. I'm just too lazy. And there's nothing I like better than a good, well, 'service provider'.
Opebo, here is one of my favorites. She surprised me when she invited me to CIM, so, being the gentleman I am, I obliged.
This sweet young lady works (worked?) in the karaoke bar next door. She was a GFE who reminded me of my high school days. Sweet girl.
I just got back from Udon Thani where I found Soi Sow Fie Dang and Soi 2 both closed up tight one night, and only very minimally open the next - I actually saw the squads and paddy wagons patrolling around the area just as I rolled into town. Yes, I had that sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach when I saw that discouraging sight.
Even on the second night there were certain periods when the pimps shooed me away saying 'police, police'. The second night I managed to find a couple of houses open on Sow Fie Dang, though the great majority of places were closed tight. Sadly the girls on offer were nothing compared to what it was like just a month ago. I barebacked an unattractive chubby one for a while but couldn't gain any satisfaction; the final thrill of the evening was finding 500 baht missing from my trousers after I returned from the bucket room. I honestly do think that its the less attractive girls who are more likely to steal, but in this case she was the only one the mama recommended as being able to 'smoke' (turns out this was false advertising).
Later that night I looked for streetwalkers in the usual area - the road from mall to train station. There were only two out, and not very good, so I didn't take. I did pop into a new area of farang bars there braching off of that street. It is called 'Nutty Soi' or 'Nutty House' - something like that.. maybe it was 'Nutty Place'. There were quite a few bars here, and the atmosphere was alright for sipping a tea for a few minutes, but there weren't any girls that looked very attractive.
Another night, having given up on the sad remnants of the secret sois, and longing for service which isn't available in those venues even in the best of times, I checked out the local soapies. "Oscar" is located behind the Chareonsi Palace Hotel. This place had mediocre girls priced at 1,350 and 1,650. None looked nearly as cute as the girls I saw on the street all day, nor could I discern anything preferrable about the higher priced ones. I moved on to the place just a few blocks away near the Udon Hotel - can't remember if it was opposite or behind this hotel. It had a long Thai name that was impossible to remember but I was told it was something like Butterfly or Firefly. This place was really outrageously fancy, much more so than the slightly run down Oscar, but the girls were definitely less attractive at the 1,550 baht level. However there were two at the 1,950 level, one of which was reasonably attractive.
So up I went with this absurdly overpriced girl - I felt a little like a bullock being led to the slaughterhouse. Nowadays I have more money than I used to, but do find I'm much less satisfied most of the time. Service was essentially nothing at all. Various totally plasticine sex acts were gotten through, tiresomely, joylessly. I felt, quite honestly, gentlemen, quite bored. Finally an interminable and mediocre handjob led to a release which, I have to say, was more like getting a tooth pulled than an enjoyment. But nevertheless, the bad seed was out, and I was free to just go attend to even less interesting activities for a while.
Of course as any reader of reports on the Secret Sois of Udon (particularly mine own) will know, the service there is atrocious as well, but at least the price is only 300-600 baht. And even though bareback is becoming nearly impossible to get there, it isn't completely impossible yet. I have to reiterate - don't go to Udon for sex, but if you are there (and it is a pleasant town overall), the best solution is to visit the Sois multiple times, if they're open, and eventually you'll get a decent experience. However don't bring any extra money (or keep it with you in the shower), and count on a lot of wasted tries.
I just got back from Udon Thani where I found Soi Sow Fie Dang and Soi 2 both closed up tight one night, and only very minimally open the next - I actually saw the squads and paddy wagons patrolling around the area just as I rolled into town.
What about soi 7? How long is the sweep going to last for?
I agree about what you said concerning the overpriced soapie next to Udon Hotel. In fact, they use the dual pricing system there. It's a rip-off IMO.
What about soi 7? How long is the sweep going to last for?
I was invited to visit Soi 7 by many tuk-tuk drivers, who claimed it was 'open', but I don't like the arrangement there. I hate waiting at the motel for girls to arrive via motorbike, and I've found the service there even worse than Soi 2 or Sow Fie Dang. As for your question about the length of the current sweep, I have no way of knowing about that.
I agree about what you said concerning the overpriced soapie next to Udon Hotel. In fact, they use the dual pricing system there. It's a rip-off IMO.
I took the trouble to eavesdrop on the major-domo listing prices to the Thai customers before I asked myself. I was proffered the same prices that the Thai visitors were.
I was invited to visit Soi 7 by many tuk-tuk drivers, who claimed it was 'open', but I don't like the arrangement there. I hate waiting at the motel for girls to arrive via motorbike
I heard you can go to the place where the girls are waiting and make a choice there. Anyone know if this is doable? Also, are the prices on soi 7 still quoted at 700ST?
I heard you can go to the place where the girls are waiting and make a choice there. Anyone know if this is doable?
I was only brought to such a place once years ago, and at that time the place was right there on Soi Seven, just very secretive. I seriously doubt that it is still there, and certainly no one has ever offered such a visit again. I tend to doubt that such an arrangement has survived all the crackdowns.
I can report that it was a nice place - large selection of nice girls. It was not, however any better than the girls available in the 'nice' house on the sub-soi of Soi 2 - the one branching off to the left as you enter. The 600 baht house, I mean. The girls there have been until the recent closure the equal or better of Soi 7's offerings, in my opinion.
I heard you can go to the place where the girls are waiting and make a choice there. Anyone know if this is doable? Also, are the prices on soi 7 still quoted at 700ST?
I walked down soi 7 and was offered girls at two places. The first one took me to a bungalow nearby. Asking price was 800, I think just taking a chance. The girl was fine but I asked for her to be delivered to my hotel later, rather than use the bungalow. That went smoothly too. The second place had about 15 gals to choose from, asking price 700. Looks like the entire soi consists of shorttime motels.
I wonder whether publicity on the internet has any role in the reported closure ..
I wonder whether publicity on the internet has any role in the reported closure ..
Probably not, as websites such as this are not widely publicized. When there are exposes on TV like you used to get about Cambodia before it closed, or get about Pattaya now, then maybe it will effect the Udon sois.
For now I think the controlling factors are local politics, shifting loyalties, and bribe-eliciting strategems, and anyway it has been going on for years like this - sometimes open, sometimes closed.
Probably not, as websites such as this are not widely publicized. When there are exposes on TV
Well, I'd expect sites like this are a very easy way for the exposes to get their info.
I walked down soi 7 and was offered girls at two places. The first one took me to a bungalow nearby. Asking price was 800, I think just taking a chance. The girl was fine but I asked for her to be delivered to my hotel later, rather than use the bungalow. That went smoothly too. The second place had about 15 gals to choose from, asking price 700. Looks like the entire soi consists of shorttime motels.
I wonder whether publicity on the internet has any role in the reported closure ..
So you were able to to check out the "holding den" before you took them out to the hotel? What time were you there and how was the quality?
The old set up on soi 7 was a lot of fun. Many years ago you could drink in the small bars then pick a girl. Everything has changed, unfortunately.
So you were able to to check out the "holding den" before you took them out to the hotel? What time were you there and how was the quality?
Yes indeed. The previous time I took pot luck and got a girl called Bua. Quite lovely. This time I entered the den and could look around. I asked for Bua, and met her older sister. But I had already booked a girl at the previous place, so I didn't book any here. There were no old uglies, and no one who made me catch my breath in awe either. It was still light outside, only just.
The old set up on soi 7 was a lot of fun. Many years ago you could drink in the small bars then pick a girl. Everything has changed, unfortunately.
I come too late, too late!
I arrived yet again in Khon Kaen near Soapy closing time (the ridiculous 12:00 midnight). I find it hard to adjust to the early hours of everything in Thailand; that said, its just as bad or worse in my sad homeland. I think I was meant to be a Spaniard or Portuguese and stay up all night.
As it was too late for those Soapies, I thought to call the girl I tried a few weeks ago from the Bus Station. I'd had a bad experience with another girl there in the interrim (reported below), in which I even left the girl at the motel without fully paying. So I was a bit nervous about dealing with this same group again. Anyway, the good one answered and told me to go find her 'with Ma-Ma'.
So, I went to the bus station, where I saw about four distinct groups of hookers and pimps, more on the road next to the bus station than in the station itself. In each group there were 2-4 girls. I was pretty sure I saw a couple of motorcycle cops having a chat with one group, which worried me. As for the mama, she was sitting alone, and had to call the girls to her - I wondered if it was a precaution against the police. Mama did remember me, but apparently didn't remember or chose to forget my bad behavior in leaving the poor-service girl at the hotel the previous time.
Soon my favorite arrived and off we went to the short time motel - Playboy does have some pretty good rooms and porn. The girl gave really fantastic service for Isaan - very nice blow job, and for something like a full ten minutes, followed by cowgirl-doggy-missionary, all done in the natural and pleasurable way. In addition she seemed to enjoy the really rough, hard, deep banging that most local girls can't handle. I even finished inside, which she didn't like much , but no hard feelings. The best part was she was very wet and appeared 'into it'. I was quoted 1,000 initially by the mama but agreed on exactly 800. Last time I agreed to 700 but included a 100 baht tip, so its came to the same thing. The denoument - she was very unrushed, even hanging around for about 20 minutes after the deed was done to continue watching porn and 'cuddling'. No second round though - which is just as well as I don't do wel with those at my age.
All in all a very fine evening - I went home feeling very much 'back in the saddle' after recent bad experiences.
I wonder if I may have discovered the reason for the recent crackdowns in Udon. Of course the overall environment in Thailand is gradually ever increasing crackdowns on our hobby, but what may have motivated the recent sharp uptick was an expose on Thai TV.
My Thai friends report that there was a big news story on the local Thai news shows based on an 'investigative reporter' entering the houses on Soi 2 with a hidden camera. The footage was then used to present the sois as '[CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908)'. Ole fatty mamma's reach is long and powerful, gentlemen.
One can only fantasize about what our friends and allies the pimp-men of Udon would have done to this snake and traitor had they discovered his secret agenda whilst still in the brothel.
I wonder if I may have discovered the reason for the recent crackdowns in Udon. Of course the overall environment in Thailand is gradually ever increasing crackdowns on our hobby, but what may have motivated the recent sharp uptick was an expose on Thai TV.
My Thai friends report that there was a big news story on the local Thai news shows based on an 'investigative reporter' entering the houses on Soi 2 with a hidden camera. The footage was then used to present the sois as '[CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908)'. Ole fatty mamma's reach is long and powerful, gentlemen.
One can only fantasize about what our friends and allies the pimp-men of Udon would have done to this snake and traitor had they discovered his secret agenda whilst still in the brothel.Humm. That sound like what s happened in svay pak (Cambodia). This time the girls trafficked are the poors Lao girls. Maybe members here should be more discreet about udon.
When you can already read in the new lonely planet edition: Udon sees few travellers other than a growing number of sex tourist. That smell very bad for mongers. It's just question time before udon brothels closed their doors forever (like svay pak in Cambodia). Especialy if this time western network are in the biz.
RCA Knight
07-06-09, 14:16
This area gets way too much publicity in recent years. The scenes here are solely for locals just like any other Thai countrysides. But too many foreigners ventured into it and get on all sorts of sex sites and exposed the once all local scenes, this is bad for future existence of this whole monger areas, because believe it or not, there are lots of NGO people who get all sorts of infos from site like this so they can accomplish their mission for their interests.
And this area is getting famous because all the foreign traffic and also it involves non-Thai workers. But in my more than 10 years of adventures into SE Asia backwaters, there are lady houses with similar setting all over Thai upcountry, and there are many other big monger areas in Thailand that involve non-Thai workers, Kanchanaburi, Mae Sot, Mae Sai, Chiang Rai, Nong Khai ect, but none gets the same level of publicity.
Remember all these upcountry Thai scenes are intended for local Thais, and we foreigners should not keep exposing it to the world and to these people who are doing jobs according to their own morality, according to their own principles and according to their own religion.
This area is different from Svay Pak, all the girls know they are there to make money and they are there on their OWN Will, and they are all old enough to know what they want and what they are doing, and they are all getting paid for their services, you don't find kids like in Svay Pak, they are not sex slaves, they are not locked, they are free to move around and go home, but to these people with hidden camera, they can EXTORT any truth to achieve their own interests. That's why I do not make any postings on these Thai local sensitive areas any more, because it only takes a hidden camera from these NGO with an agenda to destroy a whole legitimate local activity, and the establishments may finally shut all doors on foreigners, and I feel this has already begun to happen. If this explicit exposing keeps on, it's a matter of time all establishments in all local scenes all over Thailand chase away all foreigners.
Well, service is so bad there that its no great loss if it is closed, but I think in fairness, RCAknight, the exposure is bound to come from Thais regardless of foreigners or this website. Yes, in the case of the dear departed K11 the loss was all about outsider NGOs, but Thailand is an advanced country now, with investigative reporters, feminists, and 'family-values' religious parties of its own.
The fact is, our hobby cannot long survive the winds of change in this world. The deck is stacked against us. I just call myself lucky to have seen K11 a few times before it was lost.
Weren't Mae Sai, Mai Sot, and Chiang Rai all closed down years ago?
The fact is, our hobby cannot long survive the winds of change in this world. The deck is stacked against us. I just call myself lucky to have seen K11 a few times before it was lost.My reply is in the fight thread :)
the udon sois were open during a recent weekend when i was passing through although the nice place in the sub-soi off soi 2 was unfortunately closed.
instead meagre offerings in the other places on soi 2 and no bargaining below 500 baht.
the soi opposite tot was also open but conditions there are slightly worse than anything on soi 2, if that is possible. one guy i met later claimed that he was given a lady he thought was at least 22 but when she took off her heavily padded bra and appeared to be naturally hairless down below, he was suspicious that it was a police trap. he took off despite having already handed over 300 baht. while i know the chances that it was a police trap were slim and perhaps the lady was above the age limit, that is not a risk worth taking. i would have done the same. but it also tells me that some of these brothel providers in the soi opposite tot are also not helping the situation by letting seemingly **** ladies work there. remember, in the media frenzy, it is only the appearance that matters.
i wonder if i may have discovered the reason for the recent crackdowns in udon. of course the overall environment in thailand is gradually ever increasing crackdowns on our hobby, but what may have motivated the recent sharp uptick was an expose on thai tv.
my thai friends report that there was a big news story on the local thai news shows based on an 'investigative reporter' entering the houses on soi 2 with a hidden camera. the footage was then used to present the sois as '[CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908)'. ole fatty mamma's reach is long and powerful, gentlemen.
one can only fantasize about what our friends and allies the pimp-men of udon would have done to this snake and traitor had they discovered his secret agenda whilst still in the brothel.
RCA Knight
07-07-09, 15:02
As long as the media frenzy is restricted to Thai local level, it won't be any threat to closure. When things cool down, everything back to normal, because Thai authority and these establishments are in the same boat together to make money.
The worst fear is the media frenzy becomes international pressure, then the central authority may have to act to save the Thai faces and to pretend they are doing something. If we foreigners give the whole area a little discreet and do not over publicize it and becomes an international issue, then it will survive because it's not in the interest of authority to close it down.
Kanchanaburi has more lady houses than all these places put together, has more non-Thai working girls than all these places, but it does not get any kind of international publicity, due to difficult for foreigners to get to them, and harder for foreigners to get around this area, so it has survived and thrived all these years, never had a closure problem.
To me the survival of all these places is not related to the domestic threat from the inside but international pressure from these psudo morality society that wish all guys and gals to be celibate.
...the nice place in the sub-soi off soi 2 was unfortunately closed.
Yes, that was the one my friends said the hidden camera visited - they recognized it from our many visits.
...he thought was at least 22 but when she took off her heavily padded bra and appeared to be naturally hairless down below, he was suspicious that it was a police trap.
Hah, what a paranoid. There are of course many girls there that suit Thai tastes, but none so young as to be 'hairless'.
Kanchanaburi has more lady houses... difficult for foreigners to get to them, and harder for foreigners to get around this area
Why is it hard for foreigners to get to them? Are foreigners barred from these places? I only went to Kanchanaburi once many years ago and at that time I was such a novice I couldn't get laid there at all, much less in secret houses. I just looked at that bridge - wasted youth.
Crocodilexp
07-08-09, 15:17
Kanchanaburi has more lady houses than all these places put together, has more non-Thai working girls than all these places.
Pray tell. How do I find those? Who to talk to, where to go? What are the prices? When I visited Kanchanaburi, it seemed rather quiet.
As Opebo laments, the game is on decline everywhere. One day, Lower Suk will look like Times Square, NYC -- it's almost inevitable. We should enjoy it while we can.
...he thought was at least 22 but when she took off her heavily padded bra and appeared to be naturally hairless down below, he was suspicious that it was a police trap.
Hah, what a paranoid. There are of course many girls there that suit Thai tastes, but none so young as to be 'hairless'. On more than one ocassion have I been with Asian girls who were clearly over 20, but naturally hairless down south, including in Soi Sow Fie Dang, so I don't think the panic was justified.
RCA Knight
07-09-09, 06:25
remember there was a foreign tourist died mysteriously in udon jail about 2 years ago. when the story came out on english paper it reads" german **** commits suicide in udon".
i happened to pass udon on the way to laos right after this incident, and according to my scandinavian pal who has lived there for 15 years, he said it is a police extortion case gone wrong as he was told by his cop friend. the accused **** was clearly set up by the management and the police, they tried to extort him a huge amount but the tourist very defiant and won't pay a penny, and threaten police to reveal the extortion in court, so the police had to perform a suicide for him. best to remember police are friends of all these establishments and they sometimes will pull some stunts together, thai or cambodian or filippino cops are not our friends.
these extortion cases happen more often than we think all over thailand, cambodia and all over sea, almost all victims negotiate and pay the fees and get the hell out of these banana countries.
so its probably better to be extremely cautious and paranoid than too laid back about everything in these lands where police is your biggest enemy.
RCA Knight
07-09-09, 06:34
About Kanchanaburi, the scene is very spread out in outskirks, one should hire a very very trustworthy motoboy as guide and bodyguard, aim for railroad track first, many kilos along railroad track there are tons of pick up karaokes, lady houses, but the management is not friendly at all like Issan, and the customers there look manacing to foriegners, these places are not used to serve foriegners, and many may not let foriegners in, so be extra careful, many owned and run by Burmese mafia and Thai local mafia gangs. Only recommend to go with a Thai man who you can trust. If you can tackle these psychological fear and be very very low key, then you may find many attractive babes, pricing 500-1000 ST depends on girls and houses. As for me I hired a car with a driver to accompany me on the hunt last year when I was there. And picked a very nice babe from a karaoke bar along railroad track outside of town, and paid the fees for 2 whole days and nights, 4000 bahts to the house (bargained down from 5000), and had the driver driven us to Pung Waan Kwai Noi Resort 30 min out of town on Kwai Noi River. My secret get away with a nice babe around that area. Toyota commuter minivan with a driver 2000 a day plus gas and tips extra.
So its probably better to be extremely cautious and paranoid than too laid back about everything in these lands where police is your biggest enemy.
Police are our biggest enemy every where in the world, no doubt worse here. Try my foolproof scheme of being poor - the locals are astute at discerning how much money we have, and believe me, they would not bother with me.
...the fees for 2 whole days and nights, 4000 bahts to the house (bargained down from 5000)
Ouch! So its no cheaper than staying in Bangkok or Pattaya. For me the whole point of adventure mongering is to save money, given the bad service that almost invariably goes with it.
Now on to a Khon Kaen report:
I visited several times over the last couple of weeks at Kosa and Ceasar. There I found poor service and surprisingly mediocre physiques (once the clothes were off) at Kosa, and mediocre service and decent physiques at Ceasar. The Kosa girl I took was 2,000 baht, which is absurd, and only gave CBJ, which is ridiculous.
Of the two Ceasar girls one offered service which would please many mongers (good BBBJ), and another offered service which would please me (BBBJ + BBFS), except in both cases they were incredibly rushed. This is probably due to the fact that I always visit these places near closing time, but what can one do? It seems uncivilized to go for sex in the afternoon, and they close at the difficult hour of just midnight.
In one case I simply could not finish with the girl blatantly clockwatching after just 30 minutes, and in the other, the girl got the feeling I wasn't enjoying it - which was true - and offered to go get another girl for an additional 1,200. I thought, well, she knows what I want, so she'll bring her friend she knows can fulfill the request. But no, just an uglier girl who also won't do much. I left unrequited and 2,700 baht poorer.
I also took a look at Lilly's in the Charoen Thani Princess Hotel, but the price has gone up from 1,000 to 1,200, and there were only two untempting girls in the soapy side of the fishbowl. Lots of girls in the massage side, but I don't care for mixing massage and sexual activities. Also looked at the massage place upstairs at Kosa - ostensibly just ordinary massage but I was informed that sex could be had for 1,000 in addition to the massage cost, which I think was about 500. Obviously I passed.
This area gets way too much publicity in recent years. The scenes here are solely for locals just like any other Thai countrysides. But too many foreigners ventured into it and get on all sorts of sex sites and exposed the once all local scenes, this is bad for future existence of this whole monger areas, because believe it or not, there are lots of NGO people who get all sorts of infos from site like this so they can accomplish their mission for their interests.
And this area is getting famous because all the foreign traffic and also it involves non-Thai workers. But in my more than 10 years of adventures into SE Asia backwaters, there are lady houses with similar setting all over Thai upcountry, and there are many other big monger areas in Thailand that involve non-Thai workers, Kanchanaburi, Mae Sot, Mae Sai, Chiang Rai, Nong Khai ect, but none gets the same level of publicity.
Remember all these upcountry Thai scenes are intended for local Thais, and we foreigners should not keep exposing it to the world and to these people who are doing jobs according to their own morality, according to their own principles and according to their own religion.
This area is different from Svay Pak, all the girls know they are there to make money and they are there on their OWN Will, and they are all old enough to know what they want and what they are doing, and they are all getting paid for their services, you don't find kids like in Svay Pak, they are not sex slaves, they are not locked, they are free to move around and go home, but to these people with hidden camera, they can EXTORT any truth to achieve their own interests. That's why I do not make any postings on these Thai local sensitive areas any more, because it only takes a hidden camera from these NGO with an agenda to destroy a whole legitimate local activity, and the establishments may finally shut all doors on foreigners, and I feel this has already begun to happen. If this explicit exposing keeps on, it's a matter of time all establishments in all local scenes all over Thailand chase away all foreigners.Fully agree with you, in 2000, when I started to travel in Thailand, farang was in very limited number in udon.; just some month, some fellow goes to spend their holiday with their local girlfriend. But since 2003 the city has changed a lot. In 2003 a bar strip happened near Robinson. Some famous place Like "Erwin"(rarely mentioned here btw) became out of fashion
Yes Udon scene is over exposed on that time. Since I travel in this country I can see some city like udon, but also pitsanulok, khorat, chiang rai guested more and more farang despite the lack of good hotel and sightseeing.; ever if pitsanulok is not mentioned from a while, and chiang rai crackdown let the city almost dead. Just compared jetyod road in 2003 and now
It s seemed more and more farang are in need of exotism and are bored in their farangland. They also imported their bad habit, and their standard prices
So yes ISG like other forum are watching by ngo. And Udon is the perfect target.; a big city, in the poorest part of Thailand, shared border with one the poorest country in the world. So how do you think network will show the scene for getting watchers? Look how they describe sp.
So it s up to us to maintain this little paradise, by not giving too much details ps:
Just one thinked in svay pak many girls was not trafficked, and their family lives in the suburbia, they was also allowed to go with you in your hotel. Some ever goes to martini at night.
One time I was with a cute girls in svay pak, I asked her, "why you worked here? " she replied to me "some days I can win 40 dollars and my mom is very happy". So I don t think the lao girls in udon and the viet in svay pak was in a different situation. But the same thing destroyed their place of work. But here it s isaan forum not Cambodia forum
Just a last thing: Never argued with cops in Thailand and asia in general, they are very powerfull and can charged you of what they want. To hit you will be not a problem for them. It s better to lost money than life.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Police are our biggest enemy every where in the world, no doubt worse here.
Taking this in a slightly different sense, specifically as regards the topic of this Guide, or rather, of this thread in particular, we seem to be our own biggest enemy.
Check out rightsandwrongs/udonthani. Its revealing!
Calm Quiet
07-14-09, 05:00
Opebo or anyone,
Is there anything left of those Sois anymore or is it really all over?
I loved Udon when I was there last and am not happy to hear all this bad news. It was so easy going when I was there. I always planned to come back someday.
Do I need to find a new area?
Cheers,
Calm Quiet
Crocodilexp
07-15-09, 05:58
Is there anything left of those Sois anymore or is it really all over?
Second hand report from a friend who lives there is that the houses are all locked down for now, nothing available. Perhaps they would open again at some future point, difficult to know.
Opebo or anyone,
Is there anything left of those Sois anymore or is it really all over?
I've been going there for years and it is very often totally shut down for some days, or weeks, or even months. And it has come back, though never as lively or open as it was those first visits years ago. I would say that there is a good chance you will get laid on those sois again. Will it the future ever be as good as the past? Of this I feel we can be certain that the answer is 'no'.
Second hand report from a friend who lives there is that the houses are all locked down for now, nothing available.
Does this include all the houses on all the several sois are closed? Where are Thais getting their Lao flavors from now?
I recently visited Khon Kaen, Maha Sarakham, and Roi-Et in quick succession. Where I found:
In KK a friendly girl at Kosa soapy who was not as good looking in bed with her clothes off as in the line-up, who provided decent BBBJ but only covered full service, for 2,000. Actually it even took some persuasion to get the BJ bare. Hand release in the end. At Ceasar I found considerably better looking girls, and took a very good looking tall slim-but-busty 25ish girl who provided a passionate session, with kissing, a good BBBJ, DATY (yes I hardly ever do that but she was passionate and cute), but unfortunately only covered full service, though I was in there bare an inch or two a couple of times during the foreplay. Had to reach the finish line by hand-job as there was no way to come with a condom on. Total cost 1,500.
The first night I stayed at a place the name of which I never caught - outside of downtown near the lake - for 350, but they put me on the fifth floor and the elevator was broken! Moved the next night to the Sawadee Hotel for 450, a much more central location. The weird thing is that in many of these larger Thai towns the newer more suburban hotels are always completely full up with Thais on the weekends, but the older better located downtown hotels will often have rooms, as Thais hate anything old.
While in KK I tried to call a local 'mamasan' whose number I had acquired some months before to provide 'college girls', but the number was shut off already. Who knows. As usual the town was teeming with hot college girls, but without a mama-number, one has little chance with them. I did ask one 'regular' woman on a motorbike for directions as I walked away from Kosa hotel, and instead she gave me a ride to Sawadee on her bike. She definitely seemed up for something but she looked worn and tired at around 30, so I proposed nothing.
Then I was off to the next town, Maha Sarakham, where a friend of mine had informed me he had the number of a mamasan or two. The lady on the phone had us wait for her girls at a short time motel near the downtown. The only drawback to this system is one had to get the 160 baht room-for-two-hours even if one didn't end up taking a girl. The lady seemed insistent that we had to get a room and not just hang around the hotel in the dark. Price, 1,500, pay-before-you-fuck.
The girls who showed up were in fact college girl types, and I think they were actually college girls. We each chose one without much conflict as they were both very good looking - slim, tall and not-very-dark, thus to the Thai taste. I took the short time room. As it turned out my girl provided a really excellent BBBJ, which is a great rarity in Isaan, and we did do BBFS for about five minutes, though she became very upset and told me 'jep jep', and grinding her teeth in anger as I pumped away! So, I stopped immediately and said 'ok', how about you give me some of the money back since you can't fuck. She was terribly pissed off by this but since the money was only the table I took back 500, and she didn't do or say anything, so I left. Rotten experience, but my friend wasn't on the hook as he had taken his girl away. We heard that 1,500 was the normal price for this kind of 'college girl' service, and that there are several mamasans who provide, though how to get their numbers isn't precisely easy. The same thing apparently does exist in Khon Kaen as well for 2,000.
So anyway after that I went to a couple of Kareokes, out near the Big C store on the highway to Kalasin. There I found quite a few decent looking girls, but most late twenties. I finally found a very cute one about 20 and took her for a decent round of sex, BB everything and a creampie Thankfully she didn't rush me or say 'Jep' or complain about my size, but strangely enough she seemed a bit unwashed, which is very unusual for a Thai girl. She wasn't stinky exactly, just.. very over ripe. Total price was about 1,600, including 150 for a short time room, 50 for a Coke, 300 for a 'bar fine', and 1,000 for the girl. I think those kareokes are pretty expensive anyway, and I think the only 'cheat the farang' fee in there might have been the bar fine as I don't think Thais pay any barfine.
We stayed very fancy in this town, at the Takasila hotel, downtown - 1,000 baht per night for a three star kind of place, but it seemed pretty empty. Funnily enough there was a sign at the door when we went in which said 'Takasila Hotel welcomes the Ambassador of Argentina'. What he was doing in this obscure town I don't know, but my friend remarked 'I wonder if ambassadors can get away with calling girls to their hotel rooms'. A the prison which is respectability in our sour, sad world.
The next day I pushed on on my own to the next town, Roi Et, where I stopped in at the Mai Tai soapy massage place at the Mai Tai hotel. There there were a lot of so-so 25-35 year old women in the 1,200 and 1,500 categories, and one 18-20ish cutie in the 1,700 category. I took her and got a very sweet, GFE kind of service with decent BBBJ and BBFS and creampie. Alas however she complained a bit - 'jep jep'. I miss the wide-reamed girls of Pattaya.
I can't recommend any hotels in Roi Et but I can recommend a restaurant called The Elephant or The White Elephant, something like that - the only big farang restaurant in town.
Total costs:
rooms 1,800
girls 5,800
st rooms 340
food 2,000
Gas 600
Total 10,540 or 2,635/day.
Yes, your intrepid Opebo has become old, fat, and a profligate, but I can report that bareback is similarly available if not more available at the high end than it was in my old 300-500 baht haunts.
Hi,
Please where is the Ceasars located in Khon Kaen. Is it near by the Sofitel/Kosa area?
I will stay from Sunday for 3 days at Sofitel (now Pullman) and wants have a good soapy.
Thanks,
Xbroker
Socrates69
07-31-09, 09:51
This area gets way too much publicity in recent years. The scenes here are solely for locals just like any other Thai countrysides. But too many foreigners ventured into it and get on all sorts of sex sites and exposed the once all local scenes, this is bad for future existence of this whole monger areas, because believe it or not, there are lots of NGO people who get all sorts of infos from site like this so they can accomplish their mission for their interests.
And this area is getting famous because all the foreign traffic and also it involves non-Thai workers. But in my more than 10 years of adventures into SE Asia backwaters, there are lady houses with similar setting all over Thai upcountry, and there are many other big monger areas in Thailand that involve non-Thai workers, Kanchanaburi, Mae Sot, Mae Sai, Chiang Rai, Nong Khai ect, but none gets the same level of publicity.
Remember all these upcountry Thai scenes are intended for local Thais, and we foreigners should not keep exposing it to the world and to these people who are doing jobs according to their own morality, according to their own principles and according to their own religion.
This area is different from Svay Pak, all the girls know they are there to make money and they are there on their OWN Will, and they are all old enough to know what they want and what they are doing, and they are all getting paid for their services, you don't find kids like in Svay Pak, they are not sex slaves, they are not locked, they are free to move around and go home, but to these people with hidden camera, they can EXTORT any truth to achieve their own interests. That's why I do not make any postings on these Thai local sensitive areas any more, because it only takes a hidden camera from these NGO with an agenda to destroy a whole legitimate local activity, and the establishments may finally shut all doors on foreigners, and I feel this has already begun to happen. If this explicit exposing keeps on, it's a matter of time all establishments in all local scenes all over Thailand chase away all foreigners.Completely Agreed. That goes for any brothal that caters to locals in any country. The less publicity it has, the better. Look what happened in China, and what's now happening in Jakarta. Of course there's also mde, . The list goes on, and on.
I remember when I first started going here, I recommended it to a hawaiian friend who spent years trying to arrange a move to Pattaya, his fav place in the world. Once I showed him UT, he was sold but couldn't keep his mouth shut despite my protest. Now look what has happened, he's shot himself in the foot. Even if the sois do open back up, many will probably restrict farangs from going since they are more trouble than anything. Prices will probably be higher at the ones that allow entry and you always have to look out for raids, and angry locals!
There are some other sois that aren't mentioned here thank god.
Yes, your intrepid Opebo has become old, fat, and a profligate,
prof⋅li⋅gate
/ˈprɒflɪgɪt, -ˌgeɪt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [prof-li-git, -geyt]
–adjective:
1. utterly and shamelessly immoral or dissipated; thoroughly dissolute.
2. recklessly prodigal or extravagant.
Synonyms:
1. abandoned, licentious.
My new word for the day. Who says you can't learn something new on ISG.
Slim
Please where is the Ceasars located in Khon Kaen. Is it near by the Sofitel/Kosa area?
I will stay from Sunday for 3 days at Sofitel (now Pullman) and wants have a good soapy.
No it is a little way from the Sofitel/Kosa area, on SriChan Road (Hwy 209, the road to Kalasin), at the corner of I think Langmuang, behind the Krung Thai bank there. As you are going away from the Pullman area on 209 towards Kalasin it is on the left side, behind that bank. Here's a google map to that bank, Ceasar is not listed. (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=krung+thai+bank&vps=11&jsv=169c&sll=16.423654,102.834477&sspn=0.017577,0.027595&ie=UTF8&radius=0.91&ev=zi&ei=s-BySpahH5zeuwOwuuxf&cd=3&usq=krung+thai+bank&cid=8650379501212414937&li=lmd)
If you don't have a car you could just take a tuk tuk as they all know it. Its definitely close enough to walk back after your session if you don't get lost, just a few long blocks. Directions from Pullman Hotel. (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=9%2F9+Prachasumran+Road,+Khon+Kaen,+40000,+Thailand+(Pullman+Khon+Kaen+Raja+Orchid+)&daddr=Sri+Chant,+Nai+Muang,+Khon+Kaen,+Thailand+(ATM+Krung+Thai+Bank+Public+Company+Limited)&hl=en&geocode=CS2JCrioqrrhFS-w-gAd1RAhBiEcKoLD0DDjzA%3BFWi1-gAdTishBiHZMxYeU1IMeA&mra=pe&mrcr=0&sll=16.434901,102.831885&sspn=0.03721,0.055189&ie=UTF8&z=16)
When visiting Roi-Et recently I popped in to Mai Tai soapy massage at the Mai Tai hotel. Alas I found no really cute girls there except for a shy one I had taken before who seemed terrified to go with me again. The less attractive and older girls seemed friendly enough but at 1,200-1,500 I feel picky. The papa-san kept calling girls over to sit with me without my asking - this irritated me, as I had no interest in any of the girls he called over. He also ordered me a Pepsi without even asking - yes, I usually do order one, but the thing was 65 baht!
So I left disappointed, thinking 'where will I get laid in Roi-Et'? By this time it was almost 11:00 PM, so I drove very slowly round and round the lake and through the lake park. I saw quite a few lady boys around, and a few actual girls, but the real ones didn't give 'the look', so I didn't stop. Being behind the wheel looking for streetwalkers made me feel like I was in the Bad Place again, so I got a bit depressed.
Finally I decided to find out if 'gummy bears' still existed - the old lady house downtown. I had looked for it several times over the years and never found it open again, though I wasn't sure if I remembered the exact location. This time I found it (or its newest incarnation) immediately by turning right at the post office soi as I went round and round the lake. This is the soi which leads to the mall.
Although there were a couple of old ladies (40s) there, the name 'gummy bears' no longer seemed to apply to this place as there were several girls of around 30 and not bad looking either. I picked the best looking and went upstairs for 500 baht prepay, but at the last minute they charged me 100 more for the room - I suspect this was just a rip off. In the room the girl actually licked my sweaty, salty nipples while groping my penis - I thought this licking was a good sign that she might be a game girl. It has been humid and hot lately in Isaan and I was not delectable. Alas she declined to give head with the excuse that she had just eaten spicy food.
I managed to talk her into BBFS, but then simply could not get it inside. She was as they usually are incredibly tight, and my dutiful member was not very enthused. How can one be expected to get hard in such a condition? Or perhaps I'm just getting old. In any case after a struggle of several minutes, which included her going back and forth on the condom issue, I gave up and left. But imagine this - when I went out I found I had no car keys in my pocket.
As I had left I noticed a fat woman and a scary looking tattoed Thai muscle boy going into the room I just vacated, so when I returned with the idea of searching for my key, I had to wait. Standing outside with 'my' girl I was treated to the amusing sounds of a Thai copulation inside the room - the girl certainly put on more of a vocal performance than mine!
Finally I searched the room, and no key, so I went back to the car. Various tuk-tuk men and hangers-on helped me to break into my car - very funny situation in the dark next to a brothel. I was wringing wet with sweat in the humidity while the Thais remained imperturbable even while working over the car door. Finally they succeeded, and without damaging anything much. I must say that only one of the three was drunk, and one of the two sobers even spoke English a bit. Two pleasant gentlemen out of three is a higher ratio of decency than one would find in a seedy brothel in the West, I suspect. I gave one of them 100 baht and asked him to have a beer on me.
So, I went on my way unrequited and 700 baht poorer, but it makes an amusing anecdote.
Traveling with Thai colleagues I recently visited (yet again) the Mai Tai soapy massage in Roi-Et, where there were actually several attractive 19-25 year old girls in the 1,500-1,700 baht range. It was interesting, however, that the girl I thought was by far the cutest was in the 1,500 baht level, and the ones my colleagues liked were in the 1,700 baht level - basically my girl was very slim and 19 but medium in skin tone, while theirs were shorter and plumper but WHITE. Interestingly one colleague took a girl who was from Surin, but very very white - I didn't think they made them that way there.
Anyway service was initially a bit titillating as the girl gave a good but brief BBBJ and lots of nipple-play, but the main course was not only covered but not a good fit. As usual when the girl complains of 'jep' 'jep' I couldn't keep interested, particularly with the condom on, and so the session ended up with a hand-job.
Later on my own I chatted with an older expat at a bar on the Lake in downtown Roi-et, and he stated that one could pick up 'college girls' along the canal in the next town, Maha Sarakham. I'd heard this before but not seen any very high quality there. I also drove by gummi-bears and it looked somewhat active with two or three girls visible as well as the same tuk-tuk dudes who helped me with my car before. Needless to say I did not stop.
The next day we moved on to that above mentioned next town, where my colleagues called some girls to their rooms, and I got to take a look. All three were very pretty 'girly-girls', and two of them very much fit the Thai ideal of white-white. My friends call them 'Chinese Dumplings' - kind of shapeless and doughy, but white. These were most definitely university girls, and I guess the asking price at 1,500 was reasonable for the quality, but I knew the chances of getting what I wanted was very low with those high maintenance types, so I declined and left them to it. I wondered if the girl felt bad about being the only one of the three rejected, but it actually seemed like she was relieved. They tend to fear the farang, of course.
After this I did find a few girls along the canal, sitting on their motorbikes, as well as a few girls in the small soi where they used to have the song supanee (little brothels), each set with a mamasan of sorts. No more than three girls in each place, but there was one acceptable one in each. However, these girls seemed all to clearly come from a much lower social strata than those my colleagues had taken, and they were most definitely not college girls.
The cute girl in the dark soi was a bit short and pushing 25, so I thought I'd look further, and happily the cute one on the canal was one I'd had a year before, and around 19 or 20. Off we went to a short time hotel and the service was adequate for Isaan - cursory BBBJ and reasonably well tolerated BBFS with cream-pie, plus the girl was even cuter with her clothes off. I did notice an untoward odor from her nethers however. Total cost 800 for the girl (600+200 for the bb), and 160 for the short time hotel.
Next we're going on to Khon Kaen, where the colleagues say they have a friend who has some phone numbers, as well as some ideas about 'high end' kareokes (like 2,000 baht range). Not really my natural style, but when in Rome.
Please don't ridicule my maps - I just made them on Paint; my first exercise on that software. I hope they help.
My friends and I pressed on to the large and vibrant city of Khon Kaen, where we first looked in on Kosa and Ceasar massage parlours. The selection as always was better at Ceasar than Kosa. We did not take however as we wanted to explore the town more fully.
We then splurged by visiting a place called 'Narakhun Resort', which they had heard was rather naughty. This place is very secluded, in a new area of town near the Northeastern Technology University. This is a 'private' university which my friends said might mean lots of students who would be willing to go on the game.
The resort in question was really over the top - very luxurious, dining and drinking overlooking a band area and a swimming pool with fountains. It looked like the Playboy Mansion! Lots of really beautiful and very 'done up' girls in attendance as hostesses. The girls cost 170 baht per hour to sit with you, hugging and subtle groping allowed. The place presented a bikini show in the pool with four or five girls dancing 'sexily', but somehow in that Thai way not sexy at all. Have any of you ever been to these Thai places? About as stilted and awkward as one can imagine.
Our girls informed us that they were not allowed to leave with customers until 2 AM, and that whether they did so after that time was entirely up to the girls. Some would, some would not, and even among the go-ers, it depended on the guy, the price offered, etc. They said that with older, more repugnant gentlemen the price would be 4-5 thousand baht(!), but they offered themselves to my good looking 30ish colleagues for 2,000, and numbers were exchanged. They said that most of the girls feared to go with farang due to the size, communication, and sexual style fears. However one of them pressed upon me the phone number of her friend (who did not work there), who she said was 19 and attractive, and very open to farangs for 2,000 baht.
I think this Narakhun Resort would be good for the very well heeled farang visitor, and would perhaps be a foot in the door to the extensive network of high end girls (mostly students or student types) available by phone in Khon Kaen. Our bill with some snacks, and about one big beer and one girl/hour per man was 700 baht each!
The girls also informed us that if we wanted to fuck immediately at the high end, we should visit LG Kareoke in the Pullman Hotel, where they said the girls would go readily and before closing time for 2,500 baht. They also mentioned that sexy fully nude shows, with some lesbian action, were available in the private rooms for 500 baht (3 girls). We next visited LG Kareoke but at midnight it seemed every girl was already busy in the private rooms or had left with clients so we didn't stay.
Finally we ended up the night picking up streetwalkers around the bus station - the number of girls wasn't as much as I had seen on previous nights but all three of us managed to get a cute one. It was however much more difficult to find one white enough for my pickiest friend - we had to drive round several times. Then off to Playboy hotel by car, with the girls following on motorbikes - it seemed quite a motorcade as each girl brought her own bike. While we were quoted all sorts of prices around the station we ended up bargaining (easily) to the real price - 500 baht. I took a girl I'd had before who, for a 300 baht tip, provided decent BBFS.
In the attached map you can see where are all the places mentioned, and in addition the small brothel soi that runs off of or near the central 'traffic circle' (really more of a traffic triangle - the one with the temple in the middle). Lastly while there are streetwalkers at the edges of the bus station, many are found on the large street behind the bus station called (I think) 'Nasoonratchakan' Road.
My crude map of where the sexual activities are located in Khon Kaen.:
Please don't ridicule my maps - I just made them on Paint; my first exercise on that software. I hope they help.
The maps are excellent Opebo. Better than That Asshole's maps. Wonder what happend to him? He was the most prolific poster for more rural destinations. Good to see that there are someone who still does field research.
Crocodilexp
09-01-09, 19:33
Opebo, your maps are much appreciated, many thanks. I'm not too fond of relying on tuk tuks for finding action, so these are heaven sent. Love the style: main roads, hotels and sex -- exactly what we need.
Just one thing -- in the future, could you please make the text few times bigger -- so that the old geezers among us can read the labels without squinting?
Dateline - Khon Kaen:
I returned to try out the Cleo Kareoke in the Pullman Hotel - wow, what a high-end brothel! I'd been directed there by a girl at Narakhun Resort, and given a name to look for - I found the recommended girl and took her to a kareoke room for Cokes. She sang desultorily, and eventually we got round to the discussion of going somewhere. She quoted 5,000 baht! Of course I immediately declined and asked for the check (which was 400 for two cokes and an hour of time), but she eventually came down to 2,000. I honestly believe this is the 'real price' - i.e. the lowest they'll go.
Off we went, her on motorbike with me following by car. First hotel, no rooms available, and then things got weird - she asked for the 2,000 up front! Well, I know that paying up front is the norm in Thai oriented establishments, and I was curious to see where this would lead, so I paid. Then after following her for a while towards some hotel she said she knew, she lost me, and I tried calling numerous times but she'd turned off her phone. I honestly think she lost me by accident, but she never turned up.
I went back to the venue and acted mildly upset - not angry of course, just as if they'd killed my mother. They were actually quite decent about it, immediately repaying the 600 baht bar fine, and saying they were considering paying me the 2,000 and trying to get it back from the girl later. In the end they offered another girl for free. I was reluctant but took a slim beauty.
Again, off to a hotel - no short time ones for these money-wasters: had get get a full 450 baht room. Next, terrible service occurred, as expected, but finally I was relieved via hand job. Service at the high end is so absurdly bad it almost makes you laugh.
I will say that for anyone who prefers extremely good looking girls and doesn't mind terrible service and high prices, the Cleo Kareoke is a good choice. The patrons seemed to be Japanese and rich Thais, so basically the girls are virgins, for all practical purposes (dimensionally speaking).
A final note - the girls in this place were as good looking as any prostitutes I have ever seen anywhere, but of course they were still not quite as good looking as the university girls teeming around town with their young Thai boyfriends.
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The directions to find the brothel on Soi Sri Boon Ruang 2 with big breasted Lao ladies was very helpful and accurate. It took perhaps 20 minutes to walk there from Pong Vichitr. I arrived at around 8:30pm and found about 4 working girls out front as well as a baby and an old lady. Everyone seemed a bit young for my tastes (except for the old lady, ha ha). The only one there with truly large breasts looked like a teenager, so I stayed away from her. The others had small racks, though no smaller than normal. I selected a nice looking spinner, Nok, who quoted me 400 baht. Nok is 22 and from Vientiane. She kept trying to get me to pay first, but with a lot of patience and limited Thai I managed to communicate that I would pay after.
The room was a bit dingy with concrete walls and corrugated tin siding. Not exactly dirty, but definitely simple and rough. No shower. There were plenty of condoms under the pillow of the bed, but I brought my own. Nok’s performance was a mechanical. She wasn’t unfriendly, but distant. Not a GFE, but not icy either. Did pretty good BBJ for a bit, but refused to do more. No DFK. Then HJ and sex. She asked for a tip afterwards, and at first I wasn’t going to give her any. Then she asked for 40 baht, which seemed reasonable so I handed it over. Total = 440 baht.
I walked up to Meechai on my way back. On Meechai, between Soi Sri Boon Ruang 2 and Soi Sri Boon Ruang 1 was another brothel. This one had 2 ladies out front who called out to me. One of them had a black eye, which made me a little uncomfortable. What kind of cat house has a woman with a black eye trying to draw in customers? I didn't stop to talk and kept walking.
Hi, all!
Sorry, guys, I haven't posted anything for months here. I've been pretty busy with other matters (including a regular girlfriend!) and my mongering activities have been sporadic more or less since the beginning of this year.
Anyway, information about Nong Khai brothels is in need of an update as my latest report on this topic is not accurate anymore. One can still find several brothels on Soi Sri Boon Ruang 2 and on Meechai road as stated above, but my previous favorite one in this area does not have anymore mostly girls with big breasts.
I have to say that the quality has dropped down dramatically there, alas. Where I knew several very pretty Lao girls (and with whom Mother Nature has been very generous too) till the end of last year, now one can only find a few average looking (5 or 6/10 at most) providers and if some of them are not "flat-chested", their tits are certainly not as impressive as those of the majority of the previous workers that used to stay at this place.
The only good news is that more brothels open earlier in the day since the beginning of this year. I've been in this area several times in the early afternoon and was able to usually find 3 to 5 opened houses with a few girls (2 to 6 in most cases) available then.
Prices are still the same in this area: 300 baht on premises for one shot during a 30-45 min. session (approximately, but once you're known at one place, you can even stay longer without any hassle) and 500 baht for a longer one (60-90 min. approximately). Most of the girls are 18-22 years old, but older women are available too (some look like they are in their late 30s, old enough to be grannies in this country and they probably are!). Service quality varies a lot, of course depending on the provider, but BBJ is not a rarity (but swallowers are) and 3-holers can be found too (or some 2-holers can be converted with an incentive). But overall, for the same amount of money, quality is higher in Udon Thani (on Soi Fai Deng for instance) in my humble opinion, at least regarding the beauty and variety of the girls.
By the way, in brothels, you usually pay upfront, Bartchamdo.
...overall, for the same amount of money, quality is higher in Udon Thani (on Soi Fai Deng for instance) in my humble opinion, at least regarding the beauty and variety of the girls.
Thanks for the excellent report as usual Goyave. Have you been to Udon Thani lately to check on the brothels? Last I visited they were virtually closed down due to a 'hidden camera' expose on the Thai news, alleging '[CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908)' and causing a police crackdown. This was a few months ago though - I haven't checked back as I hate to waste the money to travel there until I know they are at least partially re-opened.
Have you been to Udon Thani lately to check on the brothels? ...
Well, I visited Soi Sow Fai Deng just a few days ago and it was business as usual. I haven't checked Soi 2 on Adunyadet recently, but last month, I noticed that my two favorite places there were closed (it was in the mid-afternoon then), but several others were still operating. Not a great choice of girls at that time of the day, but it's still the same price (400 baht for Farangs, 300 for Thais) on premises in most of the establishments in this area.
The other venue on Prajak Road (which I mentioned in a previous report) is still operating too, but opens later at night. It used to open around 7 pm, but now, it's probably after 9 pm. The choice of girls is very limited there now (I saw only 3 working girls at 10 pm on my latest visit) but the price has not changed either there (300 baht for Farangs, 250 for Thais).
Mosquito2002
09-25-09, 15:13
Any better directions to Soi Sow Fai Deng, I walked around the TOT area and couldn't easlily pick out the street or any brothel close-by.
Have been to Soi 2 and Soi 7, definitely worth a visit for anyone visiting Udon Thani.
Oscars is a good Soap Massage place, 1300 baht for the fishbowl and 1800 for sidelines (they sit to the left of the fishbowl). Average lookers, but service is top notch!!!
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