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Dinghy
07-03-06, 17:54
Well Robin - the prior two posters are both correct - it depends on what you want

From a "cost" standpoint the bars on Walking street are a bit "high" but not excessively so

The "quality" is debatable - higher prices don't necessarily equal higher "pleasure"

The "shows" are better, that's for sure but a few places can be "offensive" (as in "mercenary") in pushing for tips (rare, it seems to be more prevalent in the bars with eastern european women - but if your interests aren't in POO-YING THAI why did you go to Brathet Thai in the FIRST PLACE??)

<Batman>

Makhu - Koh Chang is a great place if you are a MONK (BYO or go without - pretty much) The seas would never be too rough for my type of diving... <grin>

Lipo - maybe you need to check the SP (that's Shore Patrol) logs to see if your statement holds water - generally the military doesn't get to spend much time in Pattaya during (before, after) CG and the ones that DO seem to be rather well behaved. For the past 4 years it has been somewhat subdued during CG with the US military trying to keep a lower profile (no "attractive targets") Of course, there will be some isolated instances - just like there are for the various "visiting firemen" farang.

Lemon Tree
07-03-06, 20:59
During my last vacation I had the opportunity to visit the Heaven Entertainment Complex on Sukhumvit Road. For me it wasn’t a real problem to go to there, because I used the chopper, I always rent in that time. For guys who have their hotel in the surrounding of Beach Road or Second Road or Soi Buakhao it is a little bit complicated, if they try to use a normal Baht-Bus.

OK, the Heaven Entertainment Complex is a big white building on 149/352-61 Moo 9 Sukhumvit Road, mostly frequented by Asians like Koreans, Chinese and Japanese. The entrance to the fishbowl is on the right side of the building. You have to go upstairs to the first floor.

Contrary to the fishbowls in the 3 Sabaii’s there is no window between the girls and the customers. Only a normal counter.

You can take place like in the other MP’s. I asked one of the papasan about the prizes. It was 1800 Baht for one and a half hour.

When I arrived, there were about 10 girls sitting opposite me. Different ages, different outfit. Same same like in the other MP’s. Suddenly there was action in the backstage. About 10 more girls seemed on the scene. Why??? A bus full of Koreans had arrived. Time for me to make my decision.

My choice was a good looking, light-skinned girl at the beginning of the twenties. She came over and I was fascinated by her voice. She had a very agreeable voice. Like a little bird. She took me by the hand, and then we went downstairs again.
The massage Parlour isn’t in the same entrance. We had to leave the house, went left and took the next entrance 10 meters away. There was the lady cashier sitting and I paid my 1800 Baht. Upstairs again in the 3 floor. The room with the air mattress was the same like in every MP. Nothing special. Same thing with the bed.
Well, the little girl took of my clothes after giving me a sweet kiss on my cheek and touching my little farang with the comment: Oh, mak mak. Nice Pakwan ( sweet mouth in Thai), as it seemed, but who would not like to hear such words.
OK, she did a very good job on the air mattress and finally on the bed we tried different positions until I shoot my offspring into the condom.

Nothing to tell bad about her service, so I tipped her with 300 Baht and she enjoyed that.

Finally I can say that it is a little bit uncomfortable to visit this MP. I think on the other side, that their special clientele are the Asians. And this people never go alone, they are always accompanied by a guide and transported in big busses.

I can get the same pleasure on Second Road in the3 Sabaii’s or even in the Diamond MP beside the Diamond Hotel. It is more comfortable for me to go to there.

Well, gentlemen, so far so good.

Enjoy your life, you only have this one.

Lemon Tree

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.

Sumart
07-03-06, 21:04
Arrived on Thursday late afternoon and left Sunday early evening. In this time did a visit in Boesche A Gogo. The girls in jacucci were quite good looking and active licking each other. Also the others were partly nude. Always a good hit. Another funny place is on Soi Diamond, I don' t remember the name. One of the first places on the right hand side, name could be Wind Mill. Outside it is white and they offer Gin Tonic for only 50 Bht. They open quite early. The girls dance slipless but with a small skirt on the tables and do from time to time a lesbian (bath) on the central table. We were sitting in back and when the girls came we put some ice cubes in their pussies. Wow, was that fun, especially when it was unexpected.
The cheapest and one of the best hj you get on Soi 3 in the first massage place on the left side (after a hairdresser) coming from 2nd street. You pay 250 Bht for on oil massage. The ladies guide you upstairs to a cubcile and start the massage on the back. Without any order they start the massage later on also between your legs - very slowly and skillful. At the end you get also a free water and banana. Try it out and let us know ...

had about 10 pops with 6 different girls.

MarcoStraight
07-03-06, 21:09
just curious: how many locals were injured/killed at the hands of the us military during cobra gold 2006,specifically in the pattaya area? i recall from previous cgs (1999 to last year), bargirls getting raped, getting beat up (non consenting), getting hit with bottles, etc.
your post sounds strange to me, no offense...
the only fights/problems i ever seen in pattaya around walking street were caused by french/algerian kids or tattoed wannabe-gangsters from north europe....i never seen any american military involved in any fight , these people are very polite instead .you can see 'em walking in the street or in royal garden eating at sizzler or training at tony's gym or everywhere doing nothing but their business.does some girl get raped during cgs ? how many stories we listen everyday about hitting,beating up,[CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125),stealing in pattaya commited by european gentlemen ? as long as you buy pattaya mail or watching sophon cable you'll be shock to realize how many scumbags-criminals from europe are living in pattaya.

Phantomtiger2
07-03-06, 22:41
The only incident I recall during the American "occupation" in Pattaya=Cobra, involved an American sailor getting beaten up by some local thugs. No gals involved as the victim was a serviceman. He got hit on head with bottle and then some started kicking him while down. BTW: from my understanding , it was unprovoked as he was just walking by.

PT

Phantomtiger2
07-03-06, 22:46
commited by european gentlemen ? As long as you buy Pattaya mail or watching Sophon Cable you'll be shock to realize how many scumbags-criminals from Europe are living in Pattaya.


This has more truth than you realize. Unlike in the US--which have strict parole rules that forbid criminals from leaving their home cities--forget about trying to leave the country, cant happen as its straight back to jail, some European countries (like UK) lets new criminal released head out anywhere and many end up in Pattaya.

Warbucks
07-04-06, 17:21
First time in Pattaya. This was Thailand’s last chance with me. After putting up with disappointing performances by girls in Bangkok and the subtle racism Thailand has to offer I was burned out. Waited to 6PM took the two hour trip to, what from what I had been hearing was bar girl heaven. Touch downed at about 815pm. My driver’s friend use to live here so he took us right to a short time hotel. It was a dump but we just needed place to bust a nut and sleep. Damage each room 500 baht.

We decided to go eat and as we walked down the street I was pulled, patted, groped and called chocolate man and etc etc….. I am thinking hey we don’t got time to eat lets hit the bars but my trusty driver tells me it’s better to wait. We ate at this open air place were they serve you raw food and you cook it yourself. At first I did not like this set up but after a while it was ok. All of a sudden these girls walk in, square girls (non-bar girl) all of them very sexy. One of them is flirting to death “hey sexy man where you from.”

Being from the west side of Chicago I am thinking I am more then ready for Pattaya but once again dead wrong. I start to flirt back am I am about to go sit with her when my driver’s friend Sonny tells me not to. I think maybe he is doing this out of jealousy. I ask why then he tells me that her boyfriend is there.

What type of county is this where a girl blatantly flirts with some guy while her guy is there? Well after this we took a scooter ride over to walking street. So here it was; what all my co-workers talk about and what my driver had been telling me about all day. Neon lights and half naked Asian girls everywhere.

Went into one bar same set up as Bangkok saw one girl who was very tall with a unique hair design something like what black American girls would have. I was blown away by her until she lit that cigarette up but she was one of the best I had seen. We chatted it up but it was my first bar. We went into another bar which had girls dancing on top of the tables where patrons sat with nothing but short skirts on no panties, every once and while they will flash their pussy at you.

Right at the door was one of the most beautiful girls I had seen in my life. That’s saying something with the many countries under my belt (Philippines, Uzbekistan, U.A.E. etc she instantly locked eyes on me or my white gold necklace. After that I was ready to go with her but had to wait to my Thai buddies found girls once this was accomplished we were off.

This girl had more of a Spanish look then Thai or Asian but she was beautiful and very friendly and spoke almost perfect English. Most of the Thai girls think I am African but she knew right away I was an American. Previous Black American boyfriend. She was a real GFE and that’s just what I needed after Bangkok.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.

Terry Terrier
07-05-06, 00:31
This has more truth than you realize. Unlike in the US--which have strict parole rules that forbid criminals from leaving their home cities--forget about trying to leave the country, cant happen as its straight back to jail, some European countries (like UK) lets new criminal released head out anywhere and many end up in Pattaya.

Phantomtiger,

Law in the UK was changed very recently: http://news.excite.co.uk/politics/7924 . But convicted criminals have always travelled abroad if they have so desired. They always find a way, it kinda goes with their work description. This goes for just about any country with loose borders (everywhere).

Lord Yorkshire
07-05-06, 09:41
Fellow mongers,

Here is a chance for you seasoned mongers of Pattaya or even one time visitors, to enter into a knowledge-tussle and provide us all with both informative ditties and/or humorous anecdotes.

The clock is ticking. Let's play!

What in your humble opnions is the best Soi in Pattaya and why?

Which is the best Blow-Job bar and where is it?

Which has the nastiest girls who will give a real Porn Star experience?

Is back door fun widely available, or is it a question of asking and then finding out?

Is CIF also widely done, or again, ask and find out?

Does money get you most anywhere?

What is the best nightclub or disco to pick up in?

Do these places attract many non-working girls who are just keen on picking up for the night like maybe in Western night-clubs?

Which is the best restaurant - budget, midrange and luxury?

What in your opinion is the best happy-hour booze offer you have seen and where is this?

Where is the best scooter hire place and how much? I'm thinking B150 a day, can this be beaten?

Which is the best go-go where the girls are cool and don't hassle you loads for lady-drinks etc. etc?

A girl approaches me and looks very young. I hope she's 18 but maybe she isn't, how do I tell?

A girl comes back with me for a quick ST. After it finishes, I decide I must be love-god of both this and last century as she just won't leave - what do I do?

I get to my room and the TG isn't really a TG. I find an undesirable object between it's legs - do I scream?

How much on average should I be paying for a lady drink?

What is the best time to hit the Beach Rd. for a decent quality take-away?

On a similar theme: I'm lazy and hungry and can't be bothered to leave my hotel room. I'm in there with a beautiful TG and a fridge full of beer, and plenty of entertaining cable TV. Room service is finished (or just plain crap!) I want some Chinese or Indian take-out food delivered to the Hotel!! Is this possible? Who can do that?

Are there any go-go's where the girls actually dance well and look to be enjoying themselves? My experience is of BKK and Ko Samui where they all look utterly bored.

Where can i get the tastiest and best value English style breakfast in Pattaya?

What's a good place to sit and drink cheap Gin and Tonic?

What is one venue that you would advise to avoid against all odds? (Maybe awful clientele, a little dodgy, bad girls, scam merchants etc)

How much is car hire for a day, and what will I need to make the booking?

Are many of the TG's on drugs? How can I tell?

What is Yaba, what does it look like, what does it do?

M150 or Red Bull?

Where is the best place for shopping for clothes that resemble a certain amount of current modern day fashion?

Is it possible to take two or three girls at one time back to your hotel, or do they get jealous of one another and not get stuck in to each other?

If approached by a Katoey (or two) after midnight on the Beach Rd. How do I survive? Is there anything savvy I can say? Do I run? Or do I go to the beach for a BJ?

I don't look gay, but the Thai gay boy's on Beach Rd. seem to think i do with their offers of bum-fun. How can I repel them?

Many questions I know, but if anyone can answer all these questions in one go, and provide valuable information to both seasoned mongers and newbies alike then it should definitely go in the reports of distinction.

Cheers, and let the battle of knowledge begin.

Run Mann
07-05-06, 13:50
of all the times i've been to pattaya, today was my first visit to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), much nicer and bigger than the one in bkk. spacious downstairs and unlike bkk with the open spaces, they have individual rooms with a couch and a doctor's examination chair for the fs type upstairs.

girls are similar to the ones in bkk though, no lookers, but as others have pointed out, who cares what they look like when they are buried down between your legs. 600b was the charge for bj, girl said she was good but she kept stopping to spit in a towel, but at the end she was no cum dodger. everyone should experience this set up at least once, great relief and alternative to the regular stuff in my view.

Phantomtiger2
07-05-06, 19:07
Phantomtiger,

Law in the UK was changed very recently: http://news.excite.co.uk/politics/7924 . But convicted criminals have always travelled abroad if they have so desired. They always find a way, it kinda goes with their work description. This goes for just about any country with loose borders (everywhere).


Although it may be true in some countries, its much more difficult in the US as the criminals out on parole must report to a parole officer on a regular basis. This pretty much prevents any transit to far away places. Depending on the crime, some releases criminals must report (in person and not by phone) once a week, some every 2 weeks and for lesser crimes--about once a month. Also the fear (for some) of violation of that parole rule prevents many from travel.

PT

BTW: didnt mean to pick on the Brits as I was only using them as an example. Cheers.

LittleBigMan
07-06-06, 02:45
I don't know about other countries but in the U.S. particularly in California as indicated the crime has a lot to do with whether you can travel or not! When you are on parole the parole officier have so many cases they can barely keep up. It is easy when you are a first time offender and other than the one offense you have a good history. In the beginning it is tough but if you have family and an permanent address for them to track then it becomes easy. Once the parole officier gets a profile on you, you become a number as long as you are working. Being on parole for nearly 8 years it was hard the first thereafter I came and went as I pleased. First, once a week, then a month which became six and then a year thereafter I just called in and the only time I had to go in was because I was assigned a new officier. If you are straight they love being your case worker.

LBM

SidTheSexist
07-06-06, 04:14
USA 1 vs 0 UK & R.O.W.
:D

Scotty Monger
07-06-06, 04:49
your post sounds strange to me, no offense...
the only fights/problems i ever seen in pattaya around walking street were caused by french/algerian kids or tattoed wannabe-gangsters from north europe....i never seen any american military involved in any fight , these people are very polite instead .you can see 'em walking in the street or in royal garden eating at sizzler or training at tony's gym or everywhere doing nothing but their business.does some girl get raped during cgs ? how many stories we listen everyday about hitting,beating up,[CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125),stealing in pattaya commited by european gentlemen ? as long as you buy pattaya mail or watching sophon cable you'll be shock to realize how many scumbags-criminals from europe are living in pattaya.

i always peruse the pattaya city news for the latest murder, suicide, & general mayhem occurring in pattaya. the annual antics of the american military in pattaya are nothing compared to the everyday mayhem that occurs. when you are on the ground in pattaya you have to be sure to look up every now & then, so you don't get hit by a european condo diver.

http://www.pattayacitynews.net/news_update.html

Warbucks
07-06-06, 13:14
There all free to go into, so the thing to do is walk around and go into any that strikes your fancy. If it isnt fun go somewhere else. Keep doing this for awhile and soon you will find one you like. Trial and error on walking street is a better plan than getting someone else's opinion, imho.

good luck HoratioPattaya is an amazing place. My mind has already been destroyed. Will be back as soon as possible.

Dinghy
07-06-06, 19:25
BW - it's an acquired taste - once you try it, you'll be back <as you indicate>

Frankypanky
07-06-06, 21:25
Found a nice link.

Like to share for you newbies...to see what you can expect.

Or for the experienced whom are sorry to be stucked at home (of the Big mouthed Fat B***) instead of mongering/walking in Paradise!!!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8250196646909558965&q=Thailand

Lord Yorkshire
07-07-06, 01:32
Great link Frankypanky.

I refer back to my post "A few Questions..."

No response. Instead I see that on the Pattaya forum, which should uncover talk of sexual encounters and general tom-foolery, we are subject to the oh so jolly talk of farang suicides, TG origins and poverty, being directed to the darkest newspaper (Pattaya News) that I ever did read, and chat about the criminal element of Pattaya. Frankly (pankly), who gives a damn about that stuff?

A place like Pattaya is bound to attract criminals. Look anywhere in the world and prostitution breeds and nurtures the seedy elements of life. As for criminals, live and let live, as long as they don't affect my enjoyment of the place. Pattaya does attract desperate types, so what. Let them kill themselves if it gets too much for them. As long as it doesn't afftect my enjoyment of the place.

As for this forum, I would have thought my post and the quest for answers crossed with a little injection of humour could brighten up the environment.

I read other forums of places I have lived in or visited, and it's fun all the way.

Informative, helpful, great reports of first hand action and leaves me with a smile. C'mon Pattaya - let's forget all that makes us unhappy, and focus on what makes us full of joyous sentiment. SEX!!

I'm going away now for a private moment of introspection in a dark room, and may even afford myself a quick cry, after having spent the last 10 minutes reading this forum.

Upon my return it would be great to see an almost spring-like feel to this place, where the sunshine penetrates the sombre clouds that begin to dissipate. Birds start to sing again, perched high within the blossoming trees that breath new life into the world and all that glitters is golden.

I'm off for a BJ. I am smiling.

Give me joy in my heart keep me singing, give me joy in my heart I pray, give me joy in my heart keep me singing, keep me singing till the break of day. Sing "Pattaya!" sing "Pattaya!" sing "Pattaya!" to the king of flings. ;-)

Terry Terrier
07-07-06, 07:47
M'Lud,

I refer back to your post "A few questions..."

Get off your lazy layabout upper class arse and RTFF :D

Phantomtiger2
07-07-06, 18:55
this is a good one.
someone just pm me and ask since i know the criminal parole system that well that i must be an ex-con. ha ha--this had me laughing for awhile.
for those curious out there--the answer is no. the only crime i committed and got caught with were several speeding tickets--yes, i am guilty of having a "heavy" foot.

cheers

pt

The Traveler
07-07-06, 21:26
the only crime i committed and got caught with were several speeding tickets
phantomtiger,

several ? i bet you also got parking tickets.
that indeed makes you a serial criminal. :d

Phantomtiger2
07-07-06, 21:42
That indeed makes you a serial criminal. :D


Ah, that all depends if the parking tickets also include a fine for jerking off while inside the parked car. If thats the case, then I am indeed a repeat offender and shouldnt be allowed to travel oversea to LOS.
Cheers

PT

The Traveler
07-07-06, 21:48
Phantomtiger,

everybody who jerks off when in LOS should be fined and punished. :)

Phantomtiger2
07-07-06, 22:56
Phantomtiger,

everybody who jerks off when in LOS should be fined and punished. :)



Then it looks like I'm never getting out of jail--ha ha

PT

J Ride
07-08-06, 03:32
Jerk-off in LOS??? What the f@#k? Whatever, it's your dick...

Ha ha ha ha!

Basil B
07-08-06, 10:55
This has more truth than you realize. Unlike in the US--which have strict parole rules that forbid criminals from leaving their home cities--forget about trying to leave the country, cant happen as its straight back to jail, some European countries (like UK) lets new criminal released head out anywhere and many end up in Pattaya.PT2,

I have news for you, the UK also has a parole system for released prisoners.


I don't know about other countries but in the U.S. particularly in California as indicated the crime has a lot to do with whether you can travel or not! When you are on parole the parole officier have so many cases they can barely keep up. It is easy when you are a first time offender and other than the one offense you have a good history. In the beginning it is tough but if you have family and an permanent address for them to track then it becomes easy. Once the parole officier gets a profile on you, you become a number as long as you are working. Being on parole for nearly 8 years it was hard the first thereafter I came and went as I pleased. First, once a week, then a month which became six and then a year thereafter I just called in and the only time I had to go in was because I was assigned a new officier. If you are straight they love being your case worker.

LBMLBM, that sounds like the British parole system too.

Let,s go back to the start;


…you'll be shock to realize how many scumbags-criminals from Europe are living in Pattaya.Regrettably, that seems to be true, but I suspect mainly we are talking about un-convicted criminals, so looks like Pattaya is the new Costa Del Sol now Spain has agreed extradition treaties.

By the way, where do “scumbags-criminals” from USA go? Mexico? South America?

BB

Phantomtiger2
07-08-06, 21:13
By the way, where do “scumbags-criminals” from USA go? Mexico? South America?

BB


Thanks for the insight, BTW: As from my previous post, I had said I was not trying to pick on the Brits but just using them as an example.

And just where do all these US scumbags/criminals go?
answer: Unfortunately, Mostly they all stay in the US and just keep on committing the same crimes. Main reason why the US have one of the largest penal institutions in the world.

PT

Lord Yorkshire
07-10-06, 00:40
Yawn. Boring.

Shamas
07-10-06, 03:45
Found a nice link.

Like to share for you newbies...to see what you can expect.

Or for the experienced whom are sorry to be stucked at home (of the Big mouthed Fat B***) instead of mongering/walking in Paradise!!!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8250196646909558965&q=Thailand

For 1st time visitors -

Check out the right side bar, they also offer a clip on "crazy driving in Pattaya." It's well worth looking at.

You get a good look at the Bhat Busses, they are the dark blue PUs with the stainless steel roofs and chrome bed railings.

Shamas O'D

Draco
07-10-06, 13:56
I'm one of those who appreciates the assist of a little Cialis or Viagra. I prefer Cialis since it acts for a longer period, provided you've got about 45 minutes to wait for the effects to set in.

PM me if you're interested. Will be there end of July. Cialis 50 MG (not 20 mg like they sell for 500 baht each!) for 400 baht.

Dinghy
07-10-06, 14:13
Gee, Draco - how about "Apsalis" (Indian generic) for 800 per FOUR PACK? (That's what I spend in a kai-yaa in Pattaya)

Jake Monger
07-10-06, 15:09
I was trying to decide where to spend a monger vacation this year, and the video that is below has made up my mind- Pattaya baby! lol

NoCBJ4Me
07-13-06, 02:05
Is this the beginning of the end or just lip service?

http://www.pattayacitynews.net/news_12_07_49.htm

nocbj4me

Rayzor
07-13-06, 05:42
I was trying to decide where to spend a monger vacation this year, and the video that is below has made up my mind- Pattaya baby! lolI saw the video. Now I am planning a trip to LOS at the end of August. Wow!

I showed the video to two married co-workers and one is trying to figure out a way to plan a side trip, when he travels to China.

Shamas
07-13-06, 06:11
Is this the beginning of the end or just lip service?

http://www.pattayacitynews.net/news_12_07_49.htm

nocbj4me

Pattaya was built for prostitution, it'll live on with P4P. You might see some cosmetic changes but the base will remain firm.

A family resort, wait while I laugh. It's like trying to turn Vegas into a family resort and doing away with the gambling.

U is what U is.

Oh, one last thing, the water close in by the beach is funky to say the least, the family area will have to be out by Joimtien.

Just my 2 Bt worth.

Shamas O'D

Eaglestar
07-13-06, 07:11
I showed the video to two married co-workers and one is trying to figure out a way to plan a side trip, when he travels to China.

Tell your friend to read the China boards and maybe he will decide it is not worth the effort. So good here there is no need to spend the extra money to travel.

ES

Phantomtiger2
07-13-06, 21:43
Is this the beginning of the end or just lip service?

http://www.pattayacitynews.net/news_12_07_49.htm

nocbj4me


I read the news report and just have to say they have alot of work trying to convert Patts to a "family resort".
Report only focus on the open bar style and how it affects Patts "image". So even if anything passes by local govt, the worst that can happen will be more walls built to cover up the bars but at least the bars will still be there.
Conclusion: Monger on all!!!

PT

NoCBJ4Me
07-13-06, 23:18
I read the news report and just have to say they have alot of work trying to convert Patts to a "family resort"......

I don't really think they could afford to go ligit there either. There is too much money involved. For it to be a major family resort, they would have to redo the sewer system (if it there is one) so the beaches could be used for swimming and generally clean the place up. Too bad they want to cover up the bars though. I enjoy strolling through there and if I spy a gem, then going in and get her. In March, I was surprized to see so many famlies there. I had been to Pattaya twice previously and never saw so many kids walking around with their parents. I wouldn't bring a 5-10 year old kids there. I guess they are from the European countries that have legal prostitution and are used to seeing it out in the open.

I'll be going back there as soon as I can though! I'm addicted!

nocbj4me

Red Alert
07-14-06, 03:07
I agree totally with Shamas. No need to worry. I have family in Las Vegas and the city tried to change the image a bit after 9/11, I believe to be more family oriented. It did not work. Sin City is Sin City,(hence the quote known around the US or world for that matter "what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas") but I don't want to put the "sweet small town" of Pattaya on the same level has the giant money eating shark of a town called Vegas.

Pattaya is growing, but it is still very fun to me, the girls are plentiful, and the beer keeps flowing. The Thai government knows for damn sure they can not lose our (mongers) business. They will never admit it, but it is very true.

FYI-For anyone travelling to the LOS in the next few weeks, its a bit slow, but not that slow. Raining buckets on certain days, but the fun continues as usual. I just visited for ten days returning this past Sunday.

Streetlooker
07-14-06, 05:22
I see it now Pattaya will be the newest family fun place. They will clean up the beaches unpolute the water put in amusement rides and totally make it a beach resort area for the whole family. Walking street will be remodeled into a huge outdoor shopping complex with surf, souvenir, and tee shirt shops lining the whole street. some of the bars being turned into sports bars and family pizza parlors.

Shanghai Noon #2
07-14-06, 08:23
I am always highly amused when people do the Tail Wags Dog thing. Is it the bars that causes sex or that the sex drives the bars? There has always been P4P in Thailand whether in the form of Soapies or Gogo bars or Massage parlors or beer bars(I am sure there was P4P even before the arrivals of the Farangs). For the Pattaya city government to say that it is the responsibility of the bar owners to clean up the image of Pattaya is ridiculous. I was just at Pattaya looking at purchasing a condo(just for mongering, not to raise a family). I was shocked to hear my real estate agent tell me that she thinks Pattaya could be another Hong Kong (except better!) in a couple of years. The Pattaya people has completely lost their sense of reality. Hong Kong is a major trade port with access to 1.3 billion worker bees (CHINA). That is the only reason it prospered and is an international city. For Pattaya to even imagine it could survive as a family destination is sheer stupidity of grand scale. I finally gave up about buying a place since Pattaya has no FAMILY entertainment to speak of(therefore I am unable to justify getting a place there). There is no way for anyone to justify coming here other than to monger or Golf. The previous monger is correct, there is no sewage system to speak of in Pattaya since the scent of sewer is prevalent everywhere near walking street.

On the otherhand the mongering in Pattaya is still better than Bangkok for the gogo bars. I was just at Pattaya and the pricing of the ST is still within 1.5k (in Nana plaza they are asking for 2k now) and you do get alot of freelancers coming from Issan and all over Thailand to work there temporarily, since the cost of housing in Pattaya is still relatively lower than Bangkok.

FKKguide
07-14-06, 14:31
..... I had been to Pattaya twice previously and never saw so many kids walking around with their parents. I wouldn't bring a 5-10 year old kids there. I guess they are from the European countries that have legal prostitution and are used to seeing it out in the open.

nocbj4meHey, if Thomas Cook offers family tours to RLDs you know you are in Europe (check their catalogue). Even 10 yrs ago one could see little ferang kids crawling around the beer bar floors while their dads (moms too) were negotiating with the BG! -- Just returned from a 14 day mongering tour with 6 guys around Germany and Holland for scoccer/football WC and FKK club mongering. One place did not even have a fence around it (Yin-Yang) with people FKK-sunbathing & running around naked and couples making out on the lawns and terraces.

Pattaya is much more modest! Love those beer bars as long as they offer this tee-totaler free tap water to drink.

PM me you're interested in info about mongering/wellness tours around Europe or Phuket.

Duniawala
07-14-06, 15:03
I was just at Pattaya and the pricing of the ST is still within 1.5k (in Nana plaza they are asking for 2k now).
Are you sure about the ST rates. Last March when I was there , I paid 500 ST and 1000 LT. Prices sure have gon up.

Sky Dog
07-14-06, 16:45
When the new airport, in Chon Buri, opens Pattaya will be easier to get to than Bangkok. This will have some effect. Probably higher prices.

Sky Dog

Jimbehr2000
07-14-06, 17:14
Red Alert:

I don't know your age but Las Vegas has changed dramactically and not for the better mongering wise. About 15-20 years ago a new Sheriff promised to clean up the town. Nobody believed him since, after all, we were talking about Las Vegas.

The truth is he really did make a dramatic impact in cleaning up the p4p scene to everyone's disbelief. You can still find a $300 casino hooker but they're more difficult to find than in days past. Prices have skyrocketed with the increased risk for the girls. The AMP scene in Las Vegas is also a joke. Full service is not available in the AMPs. The town still has working girls but the p4p scene has been driven far underground comparatively speaking.

I agree about Pattaya never being totally cleaned up because the financial incentive is not there to make that change. At best the mongering scene will be driven slightly underground and not as much "in your face". But I doubt even that will happen. Pattaya will always be a world capital on the mongering scene.

Opebo
07-14-06, 17:41
Are you sure about the ST rates. Last March when I was there , I paid 500 ST and 1000 LT. Prices sure have gon up.

I was just there and 500 ST, 1000 LT are still standard. Perhaps that other fellow only takes go-go girls. I did encounter one girl on the beach who quoted 1,000, but she 1) was unfriendly and 2) had just had a very nicely done boob job. She was very cute but the price was ridiculous.

As a general rule if the girl asks for above the going rate she will provide poor service and a bad attitude.

Phantomtiger2
07-14-06, 22:11
On the otherhand the mongering in Pattaya is still better than Bangkok for the gogo bars. I was just at Pattaya and the pricing of the ST is still within 1.5k (in Nana plaza they are asking for 2k now).



I believe he was referring to go-go gal and pricing.
As far as I remember, it should be 500ST and 1k LT for your typical bar gal (unless she is a stunner)-will ask more and some will not budge on their higher prices--so up to you to decide if they are worth it.

PT

Dinghy
07-15-06, 03:01
OK folks - In 1967 - just another GI on R&R from 'Nam. Flew into Utapao and had to find somewhere to go with a beach (not much in Utapao except rocks) and hopefully a little entertainment At 21 there wasn't much else on my mind (maybe avoiding Saigon's occassional carnage - but when one remains in garrison most - hell ALL - of the time it tends to get a bit boring). So off we went with a pocketfull of baht north somewhere to a small fishing village sitting north of a beach area (which was Jomtien) called NAKLUA (Pattaya was a suburb of Naklua - things have changed) Hotel - don't remember much - a guesthouse in the Klahng area about where 2nd road is now I think (40 years dulls the memory) Learned a VERY few words of Thai and quickly learned "point and get" (even worked for poo-ying) So the question of "which came first - bars or girls?" - NEITHER - farang came in and the ladies followed (camp followers, Hooker's - (Hooker was a general during the civil war)). The bars provided the meeting venue.

Anyway - the issue is about "cleaning up the area" - just ONE thing to remember - Thailand has ALWAYS had a scene and whether or not the farang indulge, the scene will remain. It's THAI culture (the NORM, not the EXCEPTION) So the crocodile tears about cleaning up have more to do with reducing the VISIBILITY (for whatever government wants to reduce that visibility) than elimination of P4P. The only thing REALLY bad about closing in the beer bars will be the increase in heat - it's warm enough NOW

Orang05
07-15-06, 06:11
Dinghy has it right: LOS has always been LOS - or at least for most of most of our lives. I was in SEA in '63 as part of the MAG group (in Saigon) and was back and forth for nearly 3 years. My first shot in Naklua-Pattaya & BKK was in Nov 62 (fresh from a month at Homestead waiting in vain for the to airlift in Cuba (a real threat and almost a real war). Left those tents and was posted out Orient-way and after 6 weeks in a tent along the runway in S. Fla. I was ready for action. Got it first in BKK Chinatown and then in SUkhumvit (no high rises back then!). Fortune has smiled kindly on me and has allowed me to go back regularly ever since (yeah - there are still a few of us (now) senior male citizens shaking alms bowls in S.E. Asia).

While the joints were fewer in number and less "lavish" back then, the providers were there in ample numbers when I stepped off the plane the first time (and took what was then a 6 hour bus ride to what today is Walking Street). Same now: over the years I have marvelled at the way in which the provider supply always seemed to keep a few heads in front of the farang demand. By '68 (when I was going back in a civilian role) it was bloody crazy. (You guys know who you are.)

And guess what? In the early '70's I met several Swiss fellows in the bar in the Oriental who had been in BKK in the '42-45 period, when the place was technically "neutral" (like Switzerland). Service providers were, they told me, everywhere and anywhere for the variety of customers - including (and especially, I suspect) the "farang Japanese" (on R&R yet!). They had great fun telling me how they would all decamp for the S. Thailand beaches over the Xmas-NY holiday with their BKK partners. Japanese included. So much for general war.

What goes around, comes around, I guess. There's not much in the way of foreign affairs over the last 40+ that I think of positively , but the ever-lovin' Thai scene (and I mean the historically and literally EVER-LOVIN' Thai scene) is definitely a positive. I give that place and its providers much of the credit that lo these many years later the appropriate parts of me are still vertical and the other appropriate part of me can still get horizontal with little coaxing.

See you in LOS (yet again) in January!

Crazy4Thai
07-15-06, 06:15
i've been a big fan of pattaya over the years. lost serious valuables to a pickpocket there in may travelling from bus station to hotel on a baht bus, just arriving from bkk.

i followed this link and then wandered on the site for a bit.



is this the beginning of the end or just lip service?

http://www.pattayacitynews.net/news_12_07_49.htm

nocbj4me

here are 9 days worth of headlines. you can see 5 months worth on the site and the prevailing themes are murder, suicide, and robbery not neccessarily in that order.


pattaya police get tough with drug dealers and users.

english man and his thai wife caught up in central pattaya necklace snatch.
dolphin roundabout crash – two teenagers driving the wrong way suffer broken legs and other minor injuries.

headlines
13-07-06
dutch man caught shoplifting at tops supermarket in central pattaya.

more golden coral appears at the sattahip navy base.
mini siam and the kantana group announce major chairty football match to he held next week.

headlines
12-07-06
beer bars around pattaya told to smarten-up and cover-up by pattaya city hall.

happy 46th birthday to the mayor of pattaya.
undercover drug sting leads to the arrest of two suspects but the main target manages to escape.

headlines
11-07-06
laptop and pick-up stolen in house robbery as german man and his girlfriend enjoy a night at the movies.

pattaya celebrates asanha buscha day
danger on the south pattaya road as construction work leaves 2 meter deep holes in the road.

headlines
10-07-06
two girls raped by five men in huoy yai sub-district.

1 million baht raised in alcazar theatre charity event.
20,000 baht and a computer stolen from frenchman’s house in south pattaya.

headlines
08-07-06
english man kills his girlfriend then attempts to kill himself in central pattaya.

pattaya police officers told to get tough on football gamblers.
young ambassadors for pattaya training seminar at pattaya city hall.

headlines
07-07-06
english resident caught up in assault case at a builders campsite.

one arrested after bag snatch in south pattaya involving iranian man and his girlfriend.
happy 46th birthday to the potisampan school in naklua.

headlines
06-07-06
woman attempts suicide over a suspected failed relationship with a foreign man.

12 people arrested in gambling sting in jomtien.
candle parade in banglamung as thailand prepares for buddhist lent which begins next week.

headlines
05-07-06
belgium national jumps to his death from center condo

norwegian national jumps from the pattaya international hospital and later dies.
the bodies of two newly born babies discovered by banglamung police.


read the entire list of headlines and see what you think.
http://www.pattayacitynews.net/news_update.html

c4t

Retired Army
07-15-06, 07:15
OK folks - In 1967 - just another GI on R&R from 'Nam. Flew into Utapao and had to find somewhere to go with a beach (not much in Utapao except rocks) and hopefully a little entertainment At 21 there wasn't much else on my mind (maybe avoiding Saigon's occassional carnage - but when one remains in garrison most - hell ALL - of the time it tends to get a bit boring). So off we went with a pocketfull of baht north somewhere to a small fishing village sitting north of a beach area (which was Jomtien) called NAKLUA (Pattaya was a suburb of Naklua - things have changed) Hotel - don't remember much - a guesthouse in the Klahng area about where 2nd road is now I think (40 years dulls the memory) Learned a VERY few words of Thai and quickly learned "point and get" (even worked for poo-ying) So the question of "which came first - bars or girls?" - NEITHER - farang came in and the ladies followed (camp followers, Hooker's - (Hooker was a general during the civil war)). The bars provided the meeting venue.

Anyway - the issue is about "cleaning up the area" - just ONE thing to remember - Thailand has ALWAYS had a scene and whether or not the farang indulge, the scene will remain. It's THAI culture (the NORM, not the EXCEPTION) So the crocodile tears about cleaning up have more to do with reducing the VISIBILITY (for whatever government wants to reduce that visibility) than elimination of P4P. The only thing REALLY bad about closing in the beer bars will be the increase in heat - it's warm enough NOW

I remember Pattaya when it was a sleepy little fishing village. About the only hotel there was the Army R&R hotel, which by the way, was still there a few years ago. Albeit, closed for almost 30 years. Now Pattaya is a sewer, literally and figuratively.

The Traveler
07-15-06, 21:16
Pattaya 1950

Warbucks
07-15-06, 21:56
I just read some of those news articles....Wow....Crime wise I thought Pattaya was cool. I can't believe I was walking around that place with a 2000 dollar chain around my neck.

Dinghy
07-16-06, 02:15
BW - you aren't that old (I'd guess) so the probability of getting heisted is "minimal".

3 ounces of gold isn't all that visible - even in a "dog chain" style (called "kerb chain") and they never know if it's "real" or "wannabe" on a farang tourist.

I wouldn't walk beach road late at night with it (after 2AM, I mean) But then again - you don't sound like the typical "drunk farang tourist"

"Hey I'm 'Murcan - they won't do anything to me...."

Oh - and RA - the AF guys had it great - I knew some who made the run from SGN to Udon Thani and Korat regularly. Best of both worlds according to them

It was "nicer" than keeping a Viet in the hooch (also according to them)

OCTOBER and back again - eek sam dooen - can't wait

Shamas
07-16-06, 05:41
Pattaya 1950

I have memories that old but no pics that old. History is great, thanks for the lesson

Shamas

Csun213
07-16-06, 05:43
I have seen report from some people that they like oily massage better than the soapie massage. I have done the soapie massage however have never done the oily massage. I don't even know what it is. Can you get FS like the soapie or is it just oily massage with a HJ. Also can someone tell me where to find one in Pattaya and Bangkok? Thanks

Warbucks
07-16-06, 09:43
BW - you aren't that old (I'd guess) so the probability of getting heisted is "minimal".

3 ounces of gold isn't all that visible - even in a "dog chain" style (called "kerb chain") and they never know if it's "real" or "wannabe" on a farang tourist.

I wouldn't walk beach road late at night with it (after 2AM, I mean) But then again - you don't sound like the typical "drunk farang tourist"

"Hey I'm 'Murcan - they won't do anything to me...."

Oh - and RA - the AF guys had it great - I knew some who made the run from SGN to Udon Thani and Korat regularly. Best of both worlds according to them
It was "nicer" than keeping a Viet in the hooch (also according to them)

OCTOBER and back again - eek sam dooen - can't wait


I am 24. My chain is white gold and hangs down about to my dick. A lot of the Thai male employees in the bars in Bangkok and Pattaya were coming up to me giving me hi- fives and shaking my hand asking my Thai friend/driver was I some type of "singer." Why does age come into play when determining if you’re more likely to be a victim of a crime?

I don’t drink alcoholic beverages. I never walk around with that arrogant attitude that I am "American" so I will be safe. One thing I learned about Thailand, they don't give a damn where you are from you are a farang thats it. I am from the murder capital of the U.S. I know things can turn ugly in a flash. I did give Thailand the benefit of the doubt being that they are Buddhist but there are bad people everywhere.

Dinghy
07-16-06, 18:09
Bw - age comes into play as a mugging factor in 2 specific instances - "old" (as in "appears to be so old that he can't defend himself") and "young" - (usually associated with "drunk" or "arrogant" as in "I AM KING OF THE WORLD!") where the physical ability is either chemically impaired (drunk) or the "mental capacity" is emotionally impaired (Dark street? What dark street?) or by flashing money (Buddhist country or not, it isn't a good idea to "advertise")

While it may be possible to get away with some things in LOS that you wouldn't even THINK OF DOING AT HOME, the best advice is to keep a low profile and keep your wits about you (as you indicate you DO)

ah yes, advice for the casual reader - YOU don't need this advice - others probably DO

Enjoy - just 3 more months for me...(the wait is excruciating)

The Traveler
07-17-06, 00:02
Pattaya 1950 and 1975

The Traveler
07-17-06, 00:05
Pattaya Beach 1975

The Traveler
07-17-06, 00:06
Jomtien 1975

The Traveler
07-17-06, 00:07
Walking Street 1975

Shamas
07-17-06, 04:47
Thanks for the historical photos, wow, how things change.

Shamas O'D

Retired Army
07-17-06, 06:25
Pattaya 1950 and 1975

Traveler,

Where did you get those pictures? They are great!

Retired Army
07-17-06, 06:27
Oh - and RA - the AF guys had it great - I knew some who made the run from SGN to Udon Thani and Korat regularly. Best of both worlds according to them

It was "nicer" than keeping a Viet in the hooch (also according to them)


Those were the days! To be young, dumb, full of cum and living in SEA.

FKKguide
07-17-06, 06:58
Can you get FS like the soapie or is it just oily massage with a HJ. Also can someone tell me where to find one in Pattaya and Bangkok? ThanksIt all depends on the girls and on you (tip) what you get. HJ is easy, FS spotty.

Oil massage seems to be a Phuket speciality. All the massage parlors offer it.

Try the Water Palace in Chalong or Choafa Rd East. 300 THB/hr. Sauna, swimming pool.

PM me about "wellness" men's spa tours to Phuket and FKK mongering tours to Germany.

Phantomtiger2
07-17-06, 19:09
I've been a big fan of Pattaya over the years. Lost serious valuables to a pickpocket there in May travelling from bus station to hotel on a baht bus, just arriving from BKK.


C4T


Sorry to hear about your misfortunes. Pickpockets are common all thru asia which is why I always advise to hide most of your valuables in a hidden money belt and spread about 1-2 days worth of money among several pockets so they cant get it all on one pick.

From all the news, it still safer than home, as most are suicides and common shoplifting etc. Murder rates and crime at home are alot worse even as we live in a more "modern society" as LOS is consider 3rd world?--so go figure.

PT

Sky Dog
07-18-06, 19:28
I have seen report from some people that they like oily massage better than the soapie massage. I have done the soapie massage however have never done the oily massage. I don't even know what it is. Can you get FS like the soapie or is it just oily massage with a HJ. Also can someone tell me where to find one in Pattaya and Bangkok? ThanksOily Massage is just another type of massage. It costs a little more. The girls like to do this, because they don't have to work as hard. I prefer the traditional Thai massage. Hint: when you're getting a massage, ask the girl if she will come to your room for a sex & massage.

I have had a soapie massage in Pattaya. A tout on walking street arranged it. I'm not sure but I think it was on Pattaya Nuea Road, across the street from the Air-Con Bus station.

Chok Dee, Sky Dog

Phantomtiger2
07-19-06, 23:58
I have seen report from some people that they like oily massage better than the soapie massage. I have done the soapie massage however have never done the oily massage. I don't even know what it is. Can you get FS like the soapie or is it just oily massage with a HJ. Also can someone tell me where to find one in Pattaya and Bangkok? Thanks

Bro Csun, Oily is nothing more than a simple rub down with oil (just like what you see celebrities getting on TV).
I happen to like the soapies more as its less messy but try the oily anyway as its not bad if you never did it before. Oily tends to be more expensive (with a barrel of crude oil hitting record highs , I guess you are paying for the oil??-ha ha).
But do not ever pay for any "special lotion" or "special herb/oils etc"--its more of a rip off.
Yes, most oily MPs do offer FS but that price is usually separate from the oily massage itself so FS is "extra" price . Since most gals will offer FS (but not all)--best to ask before paying.
I've only been to one Oily MP in Bkk. Service was OK and selection of gals wasnt bad either. But price wasnt as cheap as a soapie massage, but not too much more.
Name: Angel Massage on Sukhumvit 26? --I think? as I kinda remember they have 2 locations-close to each other. So best to check out both locations before choosing. Some of the nice gals move from one location to the other.

BTW:Pattaya dont have too many good MPs to begin with so your options there will be very very limited. Suggest you stick with BKK for oily.



BTW: cant post web site on Angels here-against forum rules so I will PM info to you.


PT

Lemon Tree
07-20-06, 11:50
I will complement the statement of Mr. Phantomtiger2.
In Pattaya there are several massage saloons where they offer oil massage to. I made good experience with the Physical Massage in Soi Buakhao (directly beside the place where the big market is and they have a big signposting on the wall of the house)
I also can recommend the –Perfect Massage – on South Pattaya Road (about 100 meters away from Walking Street/Beach Road on the right side).
And there is also a massage saloon on Second Road between Soi 13 and Soi Yamamoto that can be recommended.
Don’t expect in the first step a sexual massage. But you are free to ask the lady about special services. Some will do, others will give you a negative answer.
But finally don’t be shy, because the ladies will not blush when you ask them.
For a normal 2 hours oil massage I paid about 500 or 600 baht. And for me it was always very relaxing.
The other full body massage with all extras is served by my own Thai lady. Without an extra tip.
If you want to have a body massage, you should locate the 3 Body Sabaii Massage Parlours on Second Road near Soi 2. Or Heaven Entertainment Complex on Sukhumvit Road. Or Diamond VIP Massage Parlour beside the Diamond Hotel on Walking Street.
But that is a little bit different to the original oil massage.

Enjoy your life. You only have this one.
Lemon Tree

LittleBigMan
07-21-06, 02:18
First I don't think Heaven is open any Longer. I might be wrong but I was told that the owner didn't want to pay protection so they mess the place up. The place is a resturant now?

Every inch of my body hurts. I'm a big fan of legal massages and have had many different types but have settle on Swedish style. I get one once a month at home and when done properly by a certified individual it is great. In Thailand a oily massage usually at a place where they offer Thai Traditional massages, foot massage are usually done by a older provider. In Bangkok I have tried many oil massages with sex and without and majority of them slap that oil on like they are going to fried you. There so much of it that it rolls down the crack of your ass!

As of my last trip in May and June I am still in search of a good oily massage with or without sex! I tried Ring Massage next to Eden on my last trip and felt like Crisco Oil and although the massage at Teen was great especially the ball the rest was so so!

The best in my opinion and little experience in Thailand is the Old Barons now Lotus or being remodel Lotus. The old Barons I would walk in and get the 2 hour oil they knew that sex was going to happen after! I always got started with a great shower with the girl and then a reasonable oil massage with her naked with that pussy running up and down my backside. After an hour she would start rubbing those balls an indication to wake up and getting down to business!

I miss a place that I didn't have to negotiate every single bit of action. A good soap massage to a good oil massage to a great happy ending. Instead I get things like if you want to eat my pussy that's extra.

Make no mistake I have nothing against Soapies and I do enjoy them once in a while for a change of pace. Still looking for that great oil! Any suggestion that I might have missed!

Meaty
07-21-06, 05:17
Still looking for that great oil! Any suggestion that I might have missed!
Although this is the Pattaya thread, bangkok has been mentioned a few times, Check out Tulip nr Thonglor or Aviva on Soi 8, theres no mistaking the reason you're there and the oil massage can be good too (down to provider). Check out Bangkok Massage Parlours for info.

Loved the old pics TT, amazing to think Pattaya could ever have been anything else.

Csun213
07-21-06, 05:29
Bro Csun, Oily is nothing more than a simple rub down with oil (just like what you see celebrities getting on TV).
I happen to like the soapies more as its less messy but try the oily anyway as its not bad if you never did it before. Oily tends to be more expensive (with a barrel of crude oil hitting record highs , I guess you are paying for the oil??-ha ha).
But do not ever pay for any "special lotion" or "special herb/oils etc"--its more of a rip off.
Yes, most oily MPs do offer FS but that price is usually separate from the oily massage itself so FS is "extra" price . Since most gals will offer FS (but not all)--best to ask before paying.
I've only been to one Oily MP in Bkk. Service was OK and selection of gals wasnt bad either. But price wasnt as cheap as a soapie massage, but not too much more.
Name: Angel Massage on Sukhumvit 26? --I think? as I kinda remember they have 2 locations-close to each other. So best to check out both locations before choosing. Some of the nice gals move from one location to the other.

BTW:Pattaya dont have too many good MPs to begin with so your options there will be very very limited. Suggest you stick with BKK for oily.



BTW: cant post web site on Angels here-against forum rules so I will PM info to you.


PT

Received your PM. Thanks for taking the time to give me the information.

Horatio
07-21-06, 11:26
But finally don’t be shy, because the ladies will not blush when you ask them.


Enjoy your life. You only have this one.
Lemon Tree

I know I am taking this a little out of context , but this is great advice for all things in Pattaya. All newbies should pay attention. It was one of my big mistakes when I was there. Although I still had a lot of fun.

Phantomtiger2
07-21-06, 19:10
I have tried many oil massages with sex and without and majority of them slap that oil on like they are going to fried you. There so much of it that it rolls down the crack of your ass!





Now you all know what I meant when I said previously that it can get real messy. Still not a bad thing if you never tried before. Like anything else in LOS, have to try it for the experience. Also, for those that never had a Traditional Thai Massage, I suggest you get one of those also. Remember, Thailand is not only about sex--OK, almost not--IMO

PT

Phantomtiger2
07-21-06, 19:15
Received your PM. Thanks for taking the time to give me the information.


No problemo bro,
Its alway a pleasure helping out a senior member. Let me know if you need any other info.

PT

Red Alert
07-22-06, 02:45
Traveler,

Thanks for the pics. Post more if you can. I've been going to Pattaya since 2001. I'm still a "rookie", but I do like to see how much it has changed. I'm one of those crazy guys that rents one of the "big motobikes" and rides around the hectic traffic on Cent Pattaya Rd., S. Pattaya Rd. I like to explore the outskirts too. Guys. Check out the gold Budda which is a very short trip off of Sukumvit towards Rayong. Nice tranquil place to sightsee if you are in to that sort of thing.

The Traveler
07-22-06, 20:51
Red Alert,

I assume you talk about Khao Chinchan when you refer to the Golden Buddha.
Wat Yan is also quite nice.

When will you be back to LOS ?
I usually travel around the country with my chopper and we can join up if you like.
It's more fun together, especially when having a nice pillion rider in the back. :)

Lemon Tree
07-22-06, 21:34
I always like to have an airback behind me. Not only because of the fantastic feeling, but also, because it's more save from the traffic behind you. :--))))
Enjoy your life

Lemon Tree

The Traveler
07-23-06, 01:26
Lemon Tree,

I am about to buy a new car.
The description says that it comes with 8 airbags.

Is this a reason to get excited ? :D

Bill Miami
07-23-06, 23:59
This is in response to Shanghai Noon comment that “Pattaya has no FAMILY life to speak of.” I have live in Pattaya three years now. Besides the obvious, it’s the wildest most fun city on earth, that is if you’re into wild women constantly. Pattaya has much of the same entertainment you would find in any other mid-sized city in the world. But if you stay in the bars drunk all day you will not experience much of it. Below is just a small list. Shanghai Noon has no idea what he is talking about.

A) Deep sea fishing
B) Scuba tank diving, skin diving and spear fishing
C) Sailing
D) Wind surfing
E) Sky flying behind boats
F) Jet Skies (All of the above can be renting at very reasonable rates.)
G) Going to the beach (You can sit under rented umbrellas and have lunch served to you for less that 5 bucks a day.)
H) Beach Volleyball
I) Golf (Note: Really nice courses, lots of them at very reasonable prices)
J) Bowling
K) Gyms
L) Badminton Clubs
M) Tennis
N) Movies
O) Malls (Well I don’t like it, but the ladies do)
P) Bungee jumping
Q) Water theme parks
R) Go cart tracks
S) Golf Driving ranges
T) Thai kick boxing
U) Theme Parks (Tiger village, Elephant rides, Monkey shows, etc.)
V) Religion (Churches and Temples)

I sure I left quite a few out. I am not sure what this guy is looking for, but I think we covered this issue.

Next, there is no sewage problem on walking street. There are in other parts of Pattaya and when you approach walking street there is a sewage treatment plant that stinks. But walking street is fine.

Next, he is wrong about the price of short time too! I don’t think he got anything right to tell you the truth. The girls ask for 1,500 BHT, (At the go-go bars) but if you just look at them for a second it will instantly become 1,000 BHT. You don’t even have to negotiate. Once you find you way around a little bit, you will find tons of short time bars where the bar fine is 200 to 300 BHT and the girl cost 500 BHT. You can true lesbian shows (with you in the middle) at these places for 1,500 BHT total cost.

Next, I buy, renovate and sell condos in Pattaya. I have clowns like this guy wasting my time all the time. They come over here, have the time of their life and think it would be great to live here. So, they take the bar girl they fined the night before to look at condos (trying to impress them) but they don’t have any money.

If any of you guys want any extra knowledge just PM me.

FKKguide
07-24-06, 05:20
a) deep sea fishing
b) scuba tank diving, skin diving and spear fishing
c) sailing
d) wind surfing
e) sky flying behind boats ("parasailing")
f) jet skies (all of the above can be renting at very reasonable rates.)
g) going to the beach (you can sit under rented umbrellas and have lunch served to you for less that 5 bucks a day.)
h) beach volleyball
i) golf (note: really nice courses, lots of them at very reasonable prices)
j) bowling
k) gyms
l) badminton clubs
m) tennis
n) movies
o) malls (well i don’t like it, but the ladies do)
p) bungee jumping
q) water theme parks
r) go cart tracks
s) golf driving ranges
t) thai kick boxing
u) theme parks (tiger village, elephant rides, monkey shows, etc.)
v) religion (churches and temples)

i sure i left quite a few out......you forgot:

w) massage, therapeutic, many styles to choose from, incl the vigorous thai nuad boran, the assisted yoga all the world raves about. busloads of koreans and japanes come to benefit from it. cost 150-300 thb/hr. many places all over town, marked "physical massage". also try the herbal sauna and massage in naklua, performed by blind people: 150 thb. -- try any of the sabai rooms on 2nd rd if you want a shag with your body rub (1000-2500 thb depeding on how desperate you are).

x) medical services: joint replacements, organ transplants, fertility procedures, cosmetic surgery, sex change, laser vision and cosmetic surgery. ect, ect... 50-80% off inflated us/eu/uk/au prices. try pic hospital on soi 4. better standards i've seen at various scripps hospitals in ca.

y) dental services. get braces for the kids, implants for your gapped teeth at 50-80% off

z) optical: eyeglasses, contacts, 30-60% off

this of course is also true for phuket and bkk.

Pittsdaulga
07-24-06, 05:25
I'm thinking of hitting up Phuket or Pattaya with some friends.

Which town is better for the our hobby and just for fun from a tourist POV?

Do any of you have suggestions on where to stay that's close to the "action"? Preferably a place that is girl friendly.

My last request for you guys will really test your knowledge of the area. I'm wheelchair bound and can not walk at all. On the plus side, I'll be with 2-3 really strong guys and I'm a 4' lightweight so curbs and some stairs are no biggie. I am very sure this country is not well suited for wheelchairs, but if you know of accessible hotels, bars, etc to visit and see, please let me know.

I know the odds are stacked against me for travels to Asia, but I'll be damned if I don't get over there for those woman! Sorry for the long post, but your help would greatly appreciated. Thanks much!

Member #2041
07-24-06, 17:46
I'm thinking of hitting up Phuket or Pattaya with some friends.

Which town is better for the our hobby and just for fun from a tourist POV?


Well, IMHO, Phuket is much better for everything OTHER than our hobby, and pretty good for our hobby as well - Especially around Patong Beach.

Pattaya is great for our hobby, but frankly, there is no other reason to go there.

So I guess that it all depends on what you're looking for. I am afraid that I can't help you concerning your special requirements, other than to say that I have heard that some folks who have been in a similar circumstance have been able to hire people to guide them and help them around the curbs and such for much more reasonable sums of money than something like that costs in the US or Europe. I would observe that much of Phuket near the beaches has been newly re-built after the Tsunami, and the area is much more level than Pattaya, so I would think that there would be less issue with broken sidewalks and stairs in Phuket than elsewhere in Thailand. Also, more of the places in Pattaya are towers, while more of the places in Phuket are 1-3 story places, where, obviously, you would do well to request being on the ground floor.

The Traveler
07-24-06, 20:51
Which town is better for the our hobby and just for fun from a tourist POV?

Member #1214,

I second Member #2041, but there are many things to do in Pattaya, just have a look at Bill Miami's post just below.

Even though girls can be found at any place, Patong Beach is still the best on Phuket. But Pattaya will give you an even greater choice of hotels, restaurants and of course girls. They are usually also cheaper than in Phuket.

I have seen many guys in wheelchairs in Pattaya, who looked quite happy, so I guess it's doable there.

Good luck and have fun

Bill Miami
07-24-06, 22:59
To Member 1214:

Forget about Puket, Pattaya is where you want to be for the wildest, numerous and most experienced women in the world. You are not going to believe what you going to see, feel or witness. Your right, Thailand is not going to be easy for you. But, don’t let that discourage you, but make you more determined. I will try and look around for wheelchair friendly hotels for you. If I find any I will post it.

This is the advice I give all first time visitors. Don’t worry about hotels here, there are zillions of them in every price range. Make reservations at the Sunshine Hotel on Soi 8 for a few nights. You can take a taxi right from Bangkok airport to the hotel. About a 2-hour ride and a few thousand BHT, depended on which taxi you get. Before anybody mentions you can get it for 1,000 and you can be sure they will. After the long flight you take to get here why worry about negotiating at the airport over a few bucks and get some taxi drive that does not know where he is going and it takes 4 hours. It has happen before and will happen again.

On Soi 8 and Soi 7 there have to be at least 50 beer bars and a few go-go bars. So no matter what time of the day or night you arrive you have action. Yea, I am talking 24 hours a day. Sunshine is the equivalent of a Holiday Inn and you can get some rooms with great ocean views if you ask. If you don’t like it, then spend an afternoon looking for another hotel you like better. They are everywhere.

Next, first thing you do if figure out a way to get around the city. There are no taxies here. They have BHT buses, little pick-up trucks with seats in the back. Which are great, but terrible for you. So, the first thing you need to do is hire a driver or get some phone numbers of the bus drivers that will come pick you up. On 2nd round behind Mikes Mall and The Royal Plaza you will see a lot of these buses just sitting there. Don’t worry about finding the places, just walk down beach road towards walking street and you will see them. Large establishments. These are the guys that operate as taxies. I think you could hire a guy for an entire day for 1,000 BHT or so. Another alternative, is to go there and get their phone numbers. A lot of them have cards, believe it or not. Try to find a few that can speak some English. Then you can call them wherever you are and they will come pick you up, for around 200 BHT or so per trip. There is always somebody around that will speak a little English that can tell the driver in Thai where you at to come pick you up.

Places you have to go when you get here. Walking Street, at least 50 go-go bars, it is just unreal. I have been here 3 years and still not been to them all. Soi 6, at least 50 short time bars, but all the rooms are upstairs so that is a problem. Try the (My Friend You Bar) that’s its name, can you believe it. They give free samples on the couch. I am not joking, the girl will look at you and say’ (I give you free sample) well your hooked then and have no option but to say yes. Try the massage parlors on Soi 2 and 3, the have elevators up to the rooms, really nice places, the classic fish bowl operations for soapies.

You will have the time of your life, don’t let anything stop you from coming. By the time you leave you will think your KING, the girls will treat better than you have ever been treated by anybody anywhere!!!

If you PM right before you leave I will tell you about a few special places to go and girls to see. Can’t give away all my secrets here for everybody to experience, my cost up and availability will go down. I will turn you on to the wildest lesbian experience (toys, strap-ons, vibrators, etc.) with girls so beautiful they could be Playboy models for 2,5000 BHT. And so nice they could teach hospitality.

Have fun.

Horatio
07-24-06, 23:40
Try the (My Friend You Bar) that’s its name, can you believe it. They give free samples on the couch. I am not joking, the girl will look at you and say’ (I give you free sample) well your hooked then and have no option but to say yes.

Have fun.


Can you elaborate on that please?

Horatio

Sky Dog
07-25-06, 04:41
[QUOTE=Member #1214]I'm thinking of hitting up Phuket or Pattaya with some friends.

Which town is better for the our hobby and just for fun from a tourist POV?

I know the odds are stacked against me for travels to Asia, but I'll be damned if I don't get over there for those woman! [QUOTE]

Member #1214,

I agree with Bill Miami. I have mongered in both locations and I much prefer Pattay. Pattaya has a lot more ladys, mostly from Essan (Eastern Thailand).
The beach has a wide sidewalk that should be fine for crusin in your chair. Walking street is no problem either.

If you plane arrives late. I suggest you stay the night in Bangkok. Why beat yourself up when you could be having fun! Get a room in the Nana Plaza Hotel. The parking lot fills up with hotties when the bars close.

Make the cab agree on METER charges. It should be about 1200 to 1500 baht. Also agree to pay toll charges for the raised freeway as this is much quicker.

I know you will have a great time.

Chok Dee (Good Luck), Sky Dog

Phantomtiger2
07-25-06, 18:50
I'm thinking of hitting up Phuket or Pattaya with some friends.

Which town is better for the our hobby and just for fun from a tourist POV?

. Thanks much!


Ah, Being a newbie, how I remember those days.Most of the advice given to you so far are mostly correct and direct.
Since your original inquiry also want opinions about being a tourist with POV. Well then, heres mine. Enough already said to go directly to Pattaya so I leave that one up to you.
But never been to Phuket?--IMO-definitely worth a visit. Beach much nicer and environment more relax and slower--if you are into that. Not as much mongering but still available if you go to Patong.
Alot more tours available than Pattaya--to smaller isles via traditional long tail boats--not to be missed.
Phi Phi isle is also very nice with clear water for snorkels etc. James Bond isle is OK but very tourisy now, still worth a look. I've seen others with wheelchairs etc and some tour operators account for that (but not all) so best to ask before booking.

PT

Shamas
07-26-06, 01:29
I'm thinking of hitting up Phuket or Pattaya with some friends.

Which town is better for the our hobby and just for fun from a tourist POV?

Do any of you have suggestions on where to stay that's close to the "action"? Preferably a place that is girl friendly.

My last request for you guys will really test your knowledge of the area. I'm wheelchair bound and can not walk at all. On the plus side, I'll be with 2-3 really strong guys and I'm a 4' lightweight so curbs and some stairs are no biggie. I am very sure this country is not well suited for wheelchairs, but if you know of accessible hotels, bars, etc to visit and see, please let me know.

I know the odds are stacked against me for travels to Asia, but I'll be damned if I don't get over there for those woman! Sorry for the long post, but your help would greatly appreciated. Thanks much!

Lots of good advice from knowledgable amigos.

With a wee bit of effort you should be able to use the BBus.

You can stay at the Vault, all you have to do is cross the street and you're headed straight to Walking Street. You can stay on walking street. You can stay on soi 2 and hit the beer bars there. Soi 6 is very active. Matter of fact I can't think of any soi between walking street and soi 2 that doesn't have something going on.

There are many other activities in Pattaya, the snake, croc & elephant farms, malls, parks.

Shamas O'D

ThaiLearner
07-27-06, 13:36
Hi,

When I was in Pattaya last September i met a girl called Chop at a beer bar , I think it was called the five star beer bar it was in front of the Nautical Inn where I stayed on beech road.

Chop was about 25 years old and was very nice , would not say they most attractive girl but got to know her and we got on very well. Sorry no pic.

I just wondering if she still worked there.

Bill Miami
07-27-06, 18:22
To Whom It May Concern:

I made a post a few days ago and have received quite a few PM’s requesting additional information. Instead of answering them individually I will try to cover them all in this post.

The largest percentage of the PM’s were concerning lesbian shows. The best location for this is Soi 6. Soi in Thai means road or street. So Soi 6 is a street between 2nd road and beach road that is about 2 blocks long and has approximately 50 short time bars on it. Just jump on any BHT bus on 2nd road and it will take you there for 10 BHT. Look for the street sign.

The bar fine here is 200 to 300 BHT and the girls want 500 BHT. So, for around 1,500 you have 2 girls. You can also take them for the entire day for 1,000 BHT each, but you have to ask them and some want to go and some don’t. Just ask them if they do lesbian, they will tell you. If they say yes, I ask them to give her a kiss, just for conformation. All these places have rooms upstairs, some of them are nice and clean and some are dumps. I don’t like the dumps, so I will take the girls with me. So, you might want to ask to look at the rooms before you make that final decision.

For all of you that ask about girl specific features I will tell you that even for me a big part of the fun each night is the hunt. As you can probably guess I am quite jaded by now. My qualifications are she must be cute, have a great body, big boobs, she will be good in bed and most important of all, she must be fun. I must enjoy hanging out in the bar with her and laughing my ass off at the silly things she says and does. The strongest piece of advice when selecting the girl is to enjoy her personally. Just like every place and every one, they are all different with individual personalities and with 1,000s to choose from why take somebody that you’re not having a good time with.

Walking street is about 7 or 8 blocks long with 100,s of beer bars, 100,s of restaurant, 100,s of shops and about 50 go-go bars. This is where you will on the average find the hottest looking women. But, great looking girls are everywhere at every price level and you have to do a little work. By work I mean you have to go to different bars, have a beer and try to talk to the girls if you like the way they look. Life is a *****, I know, but what you wants not going to come jump into your hotel room the second you get here, you need to go find it. By going to from bar to bar you will make a lot of friends and have a good time anyway.

The go-go bars on walking street are a blast. Most of them have wild lesbian shows right on stage. I am talking everything. Nothing is so much fun as having these two cute girls 20 years old going down on each other right in front of you, to suddenly look up and say, “Good tip please.” So you give them a 100 BHT and they are so happy. Some of them will even try to get you on stage, and I will not even go there and tell you what’s going to happen next. But, if you’re eccentric give it a try.

But, everywhere you go is hit or miss. It all depends on what you like. You have to look around. One bar might be great today and bad tomorrow. The girls move around constantly, so the scene changes day to day.

A note on negotiating with the girls. I don’t, although lots of guys do. I give them what the ask for. What we are usually talking about is 500 BHT, so my thinking why make them feel cheated and not enjoy each experience to the utmost. The amount of fun you are going to have is directly related to the girl, so if she is not feeling good, your experience is not quite as good.

A note on making hotel reservation or taking some kind of packaged tour. DO NOT DO IT. Get a hotel for two nights over the Internet so you have some place to stay when you’re here. See if you like it, if you don’t spend an afternoon looking around. You can get rooms here for as little as $10 US a day. And for $20 US a day you will get a pretty nice room. So many times I talk to guys that paid for their entire hotel before they got here and they find out the hotel is charging the 1,000 BHT time they bring up a girl, it’s in a bad location, the room is not very nice, they could of got the room for 1/3 of the price they paid over the internet., etc. etc. etc.!

For those of you that asked about buying and renting condos. Condos here come in every price range and style. I have condos for sale now from $18,000 US for a fully renovated studio 200 meters from the beach to $50,000 US for a one bedroom luxury condo. Below is a web sit that will give you a good idea of the condos that are available for rent and sale.

http://www.fairproperties.com/condos_for_sale.htm

I live here, so for those of you that PM me about showing you around or having a beer months from now, just do it when you close to getting here. We will have a blast.

Pattaya is not like anywhere else in the world. The first time you come you are not going to believe what you are going to see. The Thai people are great and love having a good time and joking around. Don’t let anything stop you from coming, you will have the best time you have ever had in your entire life.

I found the following below on another web site. I think he says it all!

I loved Pattaya

But I am never going back.

I met some fantastic women who would do anything for me as long as I had the money.

I am never going back because I can’t afford it.

I met some great guys who really knew how to enjoy their lives.

I am never going back because I have to be responsible and concentrate on my career.

I partied hard, drank too much vodka and smoked too many cheap cigarettes.

I am never going back because I worry about my health.

I felt like a god because everybody said I was a handsome man.

I am never going back because I know they lied to me.

I laughed more than I have ever done in my entire life.

I am never going back because life must be taken seriously.

I felt so relaxed and laid back that nothing could faze me.

I am never going back because I must be active and occupied all the time.

I had the best time of my life.

I am never going back because I am not allowed to feel this good without consequences.

I am never going back. I keep telling myself, I am never going back.

ETIHAD AIR LONDON TO BKK 10th SEPT 2006

I am going back!

Doh!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for directions for posting a link to a specific report.

Phantomtiger2
07-27-06, 22:28
.
But never been to Phuket?--IMO-definitely worth a visit. Beach much nicer and environment more relax and slower--if you are into that. Not as much mongering but still available if you go to Patong.

PT


Member 1214,
Before I forget, I just want to add that Phuket transportation is not like Bkk( lots of taxi around) or Pattaya (alot of baht buses=modify pick up trucks).
Phuket relies mostly on motobike taxi to get around as car taxi are hard to find. So my suggestion since you are wheelchair bound,if you do stop by Phuket is to perhaps rent a car. Shouldnt be too costly as there is several in your party.

PT

Vpofkuba
07-28-06, 00:48
Hey Guys,

Do Baht uses run both ways on Beach Rd or just one way towards walking street?

Punter 127
07-28-06, 01:56
Great reports, I’m researching the LOS for my first visit, and I find your post very helpful and informative. It will be after the first of the year before I can make the trip, but when I do put me on the list of guys who would like to buy you a beer.

One question (for anybody) that I have is when is the best or worst time of year for a visit? Please don’t say RTFF I’m doing that now.

Keep up the great post. :cool:

Punter 127

BowHuntMopar
07-28-06, 03:48
To ISG management,

I think Bill Miami has done a great job on his last report and should definitely be considered for SENIOR membership status. His last report had valuable information and was humerous. This is my 2nd day out of 8 in Patayya. I've been mongering to Amsterdam, Frankfort, Tiujuana, Vancouver, Atlanta, Nuevo Laredo in the past 20 years and this place ranks right up with Amsterdam & Tiujuana.

SidTheSexist
07-28-06, 03:58
BowHunt,
No offence, you claim to be way more seasoned than I am, but how do you manage senior status yourself with only 20 reports?
Bills post was very good, accurate and informative, but its only going to take him a couple more and he will be a senior member anyway.
Why not concentrate on making all of our own posts as good as his?

Anyway, touchdown in LOS on 4th aug, pattaya on 6th :D
Sid

BowHuntMopar
07-28-06, 04:31
Sid,

Don't know why I have just (20) reports. I think this site bought out another sitet and I was "zeroed" out again. All my Amstrdam reports on the previous site are no longer available. I had over 80 reports. If there's valuable information to be provided, I will give it. Read my past detailed reports on Tiujuana. I usually provide bar, girl name, face rating, body rating & bedroom performance rating. Since this is my second day here, I doubt if mongers will go out of their way to search for the girl I posted about since there appears to be more darn girls than customers here in Pattaya.

SidTheSexist
07-28-06, 05:00
Don't know why I have just (20) reports. I think this site bought out another sitet and I was "zeroed" out again.
I thought that must have been the case. Like I said though, no offence intended. Just read the last bit of my post and encourage all members to raise their standards rather than appointing senior status to someone who makes a good one off. (not that bill has only made a one off)
Peace
sid

Dinghy
07-28-06, 05:43
Hey Guys,

Do Baht uses run both ways on Beach Rd or just one way towards walking street?

Since Beach only runs TOWARD walking street...

Like Second road only runs the OPPOSITE way (except for a small stretch between BigC and Central)

It's a little matter of being ONE WAY ROADS (obvoiusly you've never been to Pattaya)

Hallo
07-28-06, 06:16
Good job on the last report, BillMiami. Soon going there, whit GF thoug but still. Are there any descreet places, like massage, but they still offer FS? Are Thai girls generaly hairy or not?

Thanx

Jimbehr2000
07-28-06, 07:15
"This is my 2nd day out of 8 in Patayya. I've been mongering to Amsterdam, Frankfort, Tiujuana, Vancouver, Atlanta, Nuevo Laredo in the past 20 years and this place ranks right up with Amsterdam & Tiujuana."


BowhuntMopar: I live near TJ and have been to all the places you have been. Amsterdam I understand because they have absolutely stunning looking women. Even if you only see them for 15 minutes. But do you really believe Pattaya is comparable to TJ? Not a flame but I don't get it.

Member #2041
07-28-06, 09:16
Oh Puhleeezzzzzeeee. On it's best day ever, Tijuana is not 1/10th as good as Pattaya or Bangkok on their worst day ever.

I live 25 miles from Tijuana, and I often have a hard time motivating myself for a drive of 30 minutes each way, combined with another 20 minutes of walking, and a possible border wait of another half hour.

On the other hand, I will fly for 18 hours plus 4 hours of layovers each way to get to Bangkok / Pattaya. That should tell you something.

Ruben X
07-28-06, 09:58
Hey Guys,

Do Baht uses run both ways on Beach Rd or just one way towards walking street?An very good explanation of baht buses and much else can be found at http://wikitravel.org/en/Pattaya. Even a decent survey of where to find ladies.

I've not been there myself, but am studying and looking forward to being in Pattaya by Aug. 6.

RX

Dumbass
07-28-06, 17:18
I was just in TJ about 6 weeks ago with my buddy. We also traveled to Disneyland (that what we call Pattaya) back in November. We live in CA so TJ is much eaiser to get, but we saved our PTO and cash as much as possible for a return trip to Pattaya. Here's why : I am thinking of submitting this to Mastercard for a new ad

1 boat for 8 hours = $313
20 go-go girls for 8hrs = $620
a slice of heaven even the UPS man can afford = PRICELESS!!!

http://www.learn-in-asia.com/boatforhire.htm

===================================================

(Sorry, there's no other way to write this.)

Hey Dumbass,

In the future, please post your advertisements in the Classified Ads thread.

Thanks,

Jackson

JuiceSpike
07-28-06, 17:32
Dumbass,

Good idea...

1. How many guys (just you :D)?
2. Any pictures?
3. What happened during the cruise, any stories?
4. Other?

Please report on the adventure as it sounds like a good one...

js

The Traveler
07-28-06, 20:51
Since Beach only runs TOWARD walking street...

Like Second road only runs the OPPOSITE way (except for a small stretch between BigC and Central)

It's a little matter of being ONE WAY ROADS (obvoiusly you've never been to Pattaya)
Dinghy,

seems you haven't been to Pattaya for some time. Second Rd. is now a one way, even between BigC and Central, at least it still was on my last trip.

Phantomtiger2
07-28-06, 21:58
Dinghy,

seems you haven't been to Pattaya for some time. Second Rd. is now a one way, even between BigC and Central, at least it still was on my last trip.


I guess Dinghy haven't been to Patts for quite some time as 2nd Rd is indeed one way only, going from South to North (away from Walking ST)and Beach Rd is one way going opposite North to South( towards Walking ST).
Note: Some of the Rds further inland (away from the beach) are still 2 ways.

PT

The Traveler
07-28-06, 22:12
Phantomtiger,

as far as I remember only the Sois between Beach Rd and Second Rd are one ways, all others are two ways.

Phantomtiger2
07-28-06, 23:00
Phantomtiger,

as far as I remember only the Sois between Beach Rd and Second Rd are one ways, all others are two ways.

Hey Traveler and Dinghy, Clarification:
1)Yes, indeed correct as in my previous post I had tried to say : Rds=meaning the larger main Roads and not the smaller Soi=smaller streets that connect or intersect the main Rds. But even having said that Sois are usually one way, Ive often seen motorbikes go whichever way they want, so still have to watch out if you hear them coming. Afterall, this is Thailand.

2)I may need to hold judgement on 2nd Rd outside Big C as I now seem to remember police directed traffic on one lane coming out from Big C into opposite direction for about 100meters. Not sure if this was done to alleviate traffic on that day only or at certain hours of the day for the same reason-- I will have remind myself to check it out if I'm not too drunk next time I go to Patts.

Cheers

PT

The Traveler
07-28-06, 23:18
Phantomtiger,

seems we don't understand each other :)

I know what you meant but I objected to it.
Sois aren't usually one way, only those connecting Beach Rd and Second Rd. All others are two way.

But of course you are correct, motorbikes and sometimes cars don't care much. Better be safe than sorry.

Regarding Second Rd : police sometimes changes the flow of the traffic, just as needed, because Beach Rd. is blocked or jammed. Similar to the traffic circle at North Pattaya, sometimes it's blocked so you can't use it to enter Beach Rd if you are coming from Naklua.

Enough about streets, roads and one ways.
More important is at which of those streets can we find women for sex. Any suggestions besides the usual spots ?

Phantomtiger2
07-28-06, 23:40
phantomtiger,

seems we don't understand each other :)

i know what you meant but i objected to it.
sois aren't usually one way, only those connecting beach rd and second rd. all others are two way.

any suggestions besides the usual spots ?


ah, but we do understand each other--ha ha, as i was basically answering your previous post about sois between beach and 2nd rd, but i shouldve stated that as not to be too confusing--especially for newbies going to los and reading about patts for 1st time. we dont want them to get hit before their 1st bonk.--ha ha

outside the usual spots???--hmm, tough one as i dont even know anymore whats consider usual in patts.
you might want to give some beer bars just east of sukum. rd (further inland-away from beach)a try. they are generally more rep001ter and not concentrated in single street but gals there are more local with almost no english spoken. i dont speak thai but didnt stop me from having some fun. only problem was its not covered by the baht buses so little more expensive trying to get to these places by motobike taxi.
if you're interested , let me know and i'll check if i wrote any bar names/address down and pm you if i get a chance.

cheers bro.

pt

Dinghy
07-29-06, 01:18
OK - so they have removed the single lane allowance running from BigC to Klahng (since the first of June) - sure, it's not used much but it's THERE (painted on the roadway - or at least it was at the end of MAY) what's that - 8 weeks ago? As to 1 way sois - don't remember any 2 way ("legally 2 way" - Thais seem to go in whatever direction suits them) between 6 and Walking street (beach to 2nd road ) (5 is 2 way for sure and I usually don't go much north of 5 so I can't say because I don't "look") Between 2nd and Buakhao they are all 2 way

There are a few places up on 3rd suitable for poo-ying hunting (Buffalo, comes to mind)

The Traveler
07-29-06, 16:45
Phantomtiger,

with unusual spots I mean those places who usually don't cater for farangs or are off the beaten tracks like the Butterfly Bar.

Many years ago there used to be a collection of Thai bars in Naklua at the former Shell gas station at Sukhumvit. It's gone and a market place now. This place was fun and extremely cheap, no farangs at all.

Phantomtiger2
08-02-06, 17:57
Phantomtiger,

with unusual spots I mean those places who usually don't cater for farangs or are off the beaten tracks like the Butterfly Bar.

Many years ago there used to be a collection of Thai bars in Naklua at the former Shell gas station at Sukhumvit. It's gone and a market place now. This place was fun and extremely cheap, no farangs at all.


Hey Traveler (sorry, as I sometimes confuse you with others with the same name on this board).
I will look for some names of bars away from the beaten tourist path and send it your way in a few days.--still looking for them.
Actually, farangs are almost everywhere in Patts nowadays as alot more ex-pats live there and speak the language. So, not a matter of places not having farang customers but less of them. I dont know if any brothels exist that cater only to local Thais in Patts as I've never come across any.
I must confess as never had the chance to do real mongering in the north side =Naklua,I've only went by on the baht bus to see what was there during the day, so if you know of anything nice there let me know and I'll explore that area in detail next time around.

Cheers

PT

Travel100
08-02-06, 20:02
The go-go bars on walking street are a blast. Most of them have wild lesbian shows right on stage. I am talking everything. Nothing is so much fun as having these two cute girls 20 years old going down on each other right in front of you.[/blue][/size]

Quick question...When I was in Bangkok Feb. & Mar. 2001 I saw all kinds of nudity, vibrator shows, shower shows, lesbi shows, etc.. I really liked the entertainment, it made for a fun, memorable time while cruisiung & choosing. Especially at some of the clubs at Nana Plaza. Then I had heard they cracked down and you didn't see the public nude dancing, etc. for years. Has this changed? Or did they only crackdown in Bangkok & not Patayya?

Anyway, I'm off work until Sept. and have enough FF miles to get a free ticket to Asia & am thinking about visiting Patayya (never been there, been to Bangkok lots of times, all in or before 2001).

So Bill Miami or anyone else, what will I see in Patayya, now in 2006? I know there are available girls everywhere, there are in lots of places around the World, but I really enjoyed about Thailand was all the public nudity, sometimes going into a bar seeing 40 girls dancing but only 5 totally nude & wondering why them and not the others, the REAL lesbi shows, etc.. That combined with all the available woman made it unique paradise.

Any info. about the current public nudity, nude dancers, lesbi shows, etc.. would be greatly appreciated. It may just push me over the edge. I live on the East coast of the US so not sure if I want to do the 24 flying thing, but after reading a couple posts by Bill Miami, I'm seriouly considering it.

One other thing I've always visted SE Asia Dec.-Mar., mostly Jan. whenthe weather's nice, although hot. What's it like in August? Does it rain all the time? Or hard short storms? Or is it cooler than Dec./Jan.? Could I still take a side trip down to Krabi or some exotic beach during August.

Thanks in advance to everyone who posts some info.,

Travel100

LittleBigMan
08-02-06, 23:19
I have been meaning to ask this question in the pass but have forgotten about it. Last November I rode my motorbike up a Soi to a Local market. This Soi is near the Pattaya Memioral Hospital on Central Pattaya Rd. I believe it was either Soi Buakaow or Pattaya 3rd Rd. at the end of one of these road is the market. But what interest me was during the drive up to the market was that this street had dozens of bars, go-go, etc... small hotels etc... My friend mentioned that this was going to be the new walking street! Now if I was single or did not want to be seen but wanted to have tons of fun this street looked very appealing. Any idea for those who visit or reside in Pattaya know what I might be talking about?

Thanks,
LBM

LittleBigMan
08-02-06, 23:22
Meaty,

Your tips given on report dated 7-20-06, concerning oil massages Tulip, Thonglor and Aviva on Soi 8 is greatly appreciated. I will be BKK 25, 26th of October and will surely give one or all a try!

LBM

Veterano
08-03-06, 01:26
Travel 100, you will find total nudity in Soi Cowboy at 3 or 4 of the go gos, also in Pattaya (Happy, Coyote and others); the go gos in Pat are all topless for sure, plus lots of very cool table dancing; alas, no nudity or even topless in Nana

For those of you who may not know, table dancing consists of a chica in a micro mini and no panties dancing on a mirror containing up lites ~ in Pat, try Happy or Beach Club for a sample

Veterano

Horatio
08-03-06, 01:33
in Pat, try Happy or Beach Club for a sample



I very seldom hear of Beach Club when talking about bars in Pattaya, but it was my favorite place when I was there. It was a cool place. There are both dancers there and hostesses. I was in Pattaya for almost 2 months. After a few weeks of going to Beach Club, I met two of the hostesses who sat with me every night. It was kind of a girl friend experience with them every night. They would kiss me some and I would do a little mild groping there in the bar. They seemed like sweet girls. One of them once wore panties with a spiderman picture on them. She giggled like a little girl when she showed them to me. I usually bought each one, one or two lady drinks each night. I never barfined either though. I thought it might change the dynamic when in the bar. They always seemed happy to see me. It was a great place.

Horatio

Bill Miami
08-03-06, 02:52
Travel100

Have you lost you mind! Get you ass on a plane and arrive as soon as possible! Do you think I made the post about the lesbian show because their wearing jump-suits and jeans? A little imagination is required when reading my post.

Let me see, I have a decision to make, what should I do?

Go to a go-go bar in the states and have the hot girl on stage that’s driving me crazy give me 5 lap dances (Cost $100 and last 15 minutes and I leave worse off than when I arrived.) Or take two incredibly cute lesbians that just did a show on stage in front of everybody back to my place. Have them repeat the show for me and then I jump in between and they turn all their loving, sweet, caring, affectionate, wet, juicy attention on me. (Cost $100 and last for hours and I have the biggest, dumbest smile on my face that I have ever had when they are finished! I was just the star of my own porno movie, like I have always dreamed about)

Tough decision, what should I do, uh uh uh; I know I take #2 and have the best time of my life!

Since you mentioned Nana Plaza, Pattaya is like 50 Nana Plazas in a 2 mile square area where there are more girls and they are much cheaper. There a lots of Go-Go clubs that have full nudity now. I best I can determine it depends on whom your policeman is and how much he wants for a bar to be nude, semi nude or clothed. The reason some girls are nude in certain bars and some girls are not is simple. The girls don’t want to be nude on stage, only in your room. Seriously, the bars pay different levels for dancers. Show girls receive the most, then full nude, partial nude and then clothed. Some girls don’t think the little bit of extra money is worth it.

Actually the weather just changed the last two days and got much cooler. I have my windows opened as opposed to turning on the AC, which I have not done for months. Now is a great time to come, it is still the off season and the girls are hungry for customers. Buyers market, such a shame!

SPECIAL HINT: (And don’t write and ask me there names, I am not telling, you have to do a little work for yourselves.) When on Walking Street look for the Go-Go Bars that have two floors. The second floor is where what’s going to happen on stage you are just not going to believe. I know you asking yourself, why the second floor? Because the stairs are in the back of the bars and the girls can create enough of a disturbance that when the police raid the bar, the bar can shut the shows down before the police can get upstairs. Have to find them for yourselves though. And if you go on stage you can tell everybody about the FREE night you had in Pattaya and the smile on your face! Use your imagination, don’t ask!

J Ride
08-03-06, 08:46
I have been meaning to ask this question in the pass but have forgotten about it. Last November I rode my motorbike up a Soi to a Local market. This Soi is near the Pattaya Memioral Hospital on Central Pattaya Rd. I believe it was either Soi Buakaow or Pattaya 3rd Rd. at the end of one of these road is the market. But what interest me was during the drive up to the market was that this street had dozens of bars, go-go, etc... small hotels etc... My friend mentioned that this was going to be the new walking street! Now if I was single or did not want to be seen but wanted to have tons of fun this street looked very appealing. Any idea for those who visit or reside in Pattaya know what I might be talking about?

Thanks,
LBM

Hey LBM,
I think you rode up Soi Buakaow. It has a shit load of bars and is kind of a diamond in the rough so far as mongering is concerned. I haven't done the grind myself yet, but I've road through it enough times to know that I will someday.

Have fun,
JRide

Dinghy
08-03-06, 16:50
the description is soi buakhao - the talad only operates tue and fri i think (tue for sure, i don't actually remember what the other day is but it's only 2/week)- the talad is just off south road and roughly across the road from the electronics store under a big tent and hotter than hell inside (38 to 44c? )if the sun is in full blaze and a real sauna experience after a rain. the bars vary from "ok" to "why bother" (but don't they all?). turning off boukhao toward 2nd road on soi diana, if you then take the first right (roughly across from swaasdee pattaya, the side soi will take you to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s (roughly 100m on the left) and that's where the few go=go bars are as well (nothing "special"). room rates tend to be lower than than in closer to the action and the food is good - lots of locals eat at the various places there if you like indian there is a small place that does a mean vindaloo down by the s curves near south road. the bhat busses run buakhoa both directions. the lower cost internet cafes are up there as well (20 to 30b/hour) mostly down by the (future) condo construction zone at where soi 9 off 2nd road would be if it went thru

The Traveler
08-03-06, 18:53
the talad only operates TUE and FRI I think (TUE for sure, I don't actually remember what the other day is but it's only 2/week)
Dinghy,

TUE and FRI are correct.

Tiger 888
08-04-06, 10:05
I found this post on the banker's forum and thought it should also appear here. Do not carry goldchains or diamond rings in a country where others struggle to have food!!!

The robber is known and not caught yet. Please read the quote.


Ferang flashes blings and $$$ in bar, gets robbed.

From pattayacitynews.net

Police hunt for Iranian+ Tha fugitives as Australian Tourist is robbed at gunpoint.


A case of armed robbery now reported by an Australian Man who lost a total of 500,000 Baht’s worth of valuables. Mr. Jason James Botoya aged 21 from Australia made his way to Pattaya Police Station in the early hours of Thursday Morning and spoke with Police Lieutenant Colonel Pongsawat who listened to his disturbing story. It begins at a Beer Bar on Walking Street at just after Midnight where he started a conversation with an Iranian Man.
The man bought Mr. Botoya drinks for the next four hours. At around 4.00am Mr. Botoya decided it was time to leave the bar and make his way back to his hotel. As he left the bar he was confronted by three Thai men who placed something over his head to block his sight. Mr. Botoya’s sight was only partially impaired and he told Police that he was taken into a Black pick-up truck at gun-point and taken to a remote area in Nong Pla Lai sub-district.
He did notice that the Iranian man was following the truck on his motorbike and they arrived at Soi Hr in Nong Pla Lai where Mr. Botoya was unmasked and told to hand over his valuables which included three diamond rings, a gold necklace, a gold bracelet, two mobile phones and some cash, totaling 500,000 Baht. Police knew of one Iranian man who was currently on-the-run after failing to appear at the Pattaya Court on drugs charges and showed a picture of him to Mr. Botoya who confirmed this was the man that led the armed theft operation.
He is Mr. Savit Sosadin aged 32 from Iran, a former soldier. Police are now conducting a massive man hunt and people are advised not to approach him but to call the Police immediately if they spot him as he is considered dangerous and may be armed.

Shamas
08-04-06, 11:36
I found this post on the banker's forum and thought it should also appear here. Do not carry goldchains or diamond rings in a country where others struggle to have food!!!

The robber is known and not caught yet. Please read the quote.

Yep the bloke broke basic Rule 1 - Don't flash money or expensive jewerly.

Rule 2, don't drink with people you don't know

Rule 3, 4am is too late to be out by yourself

Rule 4 , read the rules above and remember them

Shamas O'D

Duniawala
08-04-06, 14:30
The description is Soi buakhao - the talad only operates TUE and FRI I think
What's a talad?

JuiceSpike
08-04-06, 15:34
Tourist Police round-up Ladyboys on Pattaya Beach in response to Tourist complaints.

Responding to complaints from Tourists concerning the increasing levels of beach related crimes involving Ladyboy’s, Police Captain Chirawat, a sub-inspector at Pattaya’s Tourist Police Station and a group of Tourist Police Volunteers conducted an operation on Pattaya Beach on Wednesday Night and rounded up 25 Ladyboys who were known to the Tourist Police as previous offenders.

The complaints from foreigners range from abusive language to attempted theft. The group of transsexuals was later transported to Pattaya Police Station where they paid small fines and profiles of each Ladyboy were recorded for use at a later date. It is hoped that these rounding-up operations will continue and will eventually deter the Ladyboy’s from frequenting the beach area at night.

-Pattaya City News
Thursday 3rd August 2006
-------------------------------
juices

Freeler
08-04-06, 18:13
Duni,

Market

The Traveler
08-04-06, 18:27
What's a talad?
Duni,

"talad" means market.

Dinghy
08-04-06, 18:58
What's a talad?

Like the others said - "market"... sorry, I guess I just switch to Thaiglish at times (put down the anglicized Thai in the messages)

The Traveler
08-04-06, 19:21
Do not carry goldchains or diamond rings in a country where others struggle to have food!!!

Tiger,

similar story :

http://www.the-vu.com/Pattaya.htm

Phantomtiger2
08-05-06, 22:06
Phantomtiger,

with unusual spots I mean those places who usually don't cater for farangs or are off the beaten tracks like the Butterfly Bar.

Many years ago there used to be a collection of Thai bars in Naklua at the former Shell gas station at Sukhumvit. It's gone and a market place now. This place was fun and extremely cheap, no farangs at all.


Hey Traveler, I found some of my notes from the last visit to Patts. I'm just decoding it now and will PM you with the info when I'm finished.

Happy hunting

PT

Bill Miami
08-06-06, 03:13
well, now is a really great time to visit pattaya. the weather has cooled down quite a bit in the past week and the city is dead. i had breakfast at the boat bakery on 2nd road on friday at 9:30 am and there were only 10 customers or so. i have been here in the season when you had to wait to get a seat at that time.

i went down to walking street last night at about 11:00 pm and only one bar i went to was even busy. some were just dead. i went back to my favorite bar to meet the little honey i picked up last week and try her 35 dd one more time, but she was no where to be found. too bad, so i needed to look around for a while.

there are a few bars on the second floor of one of the main streets, but one is my favorite. they used to have beds and couches covered with white sheets, but last night looks like the owner upgraded the place and built in some seating. kind of changes the mood of the place, but the girls were the same. all though it is a go-go bar the girls really don’t try to get bar fined too much, they are having too much time dancing. i think they are all on speed because the dancing is just so fast and goes on continuously. i bought a girl a drink and she gave me lap dances for the next 30 minutes. after that i had to go to a real go-go bar and find a stunner for the evening.

hit a few more bars on the street and really no customers at all, how great the girls are almost tackling me. i find a honey with a nice set of 34 c only here two months from eisan. (however you spell it) two months here is just perfect, not too long to become stuck up and just long enough to get a little experience under her belt, or should we say panties. she was really beautiful and looked like that black playboy bunny that became a movie star, i forget her name.

some of these girls that are new here are really into kissing as am i. so we get back to my place and i sit down in the lazyboy and turn the tv on. well she sits in my lap and kisses me giving me lap dances for a half hour or so. it was great, so i decided after the shower i was not even going to take her to bed. so we take a shower and come back to the chair. i was really drunk so this was not going to be easy for her, but like a true champion she tried her hardest. after about a half hour or so, she looks down and says i am tired, which i believed. unfortunately for her, i was not and decided a little extra motivation was needed. so i grabbed her ass quite tightly a few times and that seemed to do the trick, her hips were moving faster than ever. so, i thought to myself, if she like that so much, how would she feel about a few well placed slaps on her ass? wow, wow, oh wow she took off like a racehorse, i could not believe it! she keeps going for another half hour faster than ever, each time i slapped her she screams a little and almost knocks the chair over she gets so excited. no wonder none of them have any fat on them, if we moved like that for an hour a so a day neither would we. well i am finally finished i realize my lap is pretty wet from all her juices. how great it was!

everybody have fun in your office this week, i will try to keep you up to speed on next weeks exploits.

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for directions for posting a link to a specific report.

Tiger 888
08-06-06, 03:17
I want to post a short discussion here that I had on another Pattaya forum recently, after reading of all the ripoffs there.


The Thais don't realize that they need us.
I don't need Thailand.
Stay away for some time and they will realize.
They got so used to just open their hands and let money fall in,
that they will have a problem going empty handed.


The thing is, anyone on this forum who has mongered in PI or Jakarta
for any length of time knows that you can get just as scammed or
killed there too.
I think Vietnam and Cambodia are the sleepers.
OK the reports from there are not that great, but once upon a time
Pattaya was a sleepy fishing village with no hot water and a
tired *****house or two (was that the Golden Age?) was there ever a Golden Age?
Ten years from now Pattaya 2006 will look like paradise lost! It's all relative.
Ho's bring Spivs an Pimps and worse with them, thats Global.



OK, since there is a response I want to get a bit deeper into that point.
It is not them, it is us who spoil the places.
If there were not so many guys out there jumping on everything with 8 (or even worse 7) holes
and (over)paying for it, it should be us getting paid for the hard work, isn't it?
Where are the quality standards?
Then again, why should a Thai guy work for a few thousand baht,
as long as his sister earns ten times the amount.
In the end that leaves him too much time for developing creepy plans.



Absolutely correct. Thailand used to be great value, sex was cheap and the holiday was
a gfe that couldn't be equalled anywhere. Now we get comments on this forum like
...it's still cheaper than the US or I wouldn't insult a girl with 500 baht!

Fuck sake, it should be cheaper than the US. We are talking a third World Country where
the average wage is 2500 - 6000 baht a Month. A girl in soi 6 can earn 500 + tip + ladydrink
for lying on her back for 15 minutes. And she can this 10+ times a day if she's busy.
We are to blame, we have ruined it.

LittleBigMan
08-06-06, 03:55
Dinghy and T.T.

I believe both of you are correct! Yes I remember going to the market twice for shopping for local items. Under that tent it was so hot I thought I was going to pass out! Sat at one of the hotels looking over the market viewing the girls. Only looking can't touch other wise chop chop.
Thanks was curious!

LBM

Lord Yorkshire
08-07-06, 04:03
Just got back home after two glorious weeks in Pattaya.

Will post report asap.

There are a few places that I would like to give mention to, all places that have made my trip memorable.

Big shout out to Heavens Above, Marine, Living Dolls (Showcase) and Coyote. Plus the numerous Beer Bars that solved my thirst issues.

Pattaya is so far removed from reality that re-adjusting back to normality is very difficult. Beware of the post Pattaya blues.

I'm going back again in November - cannot wait.

Hallo
08-09-06, 15:48
Seriously, Pattaya scen isn´t very nice. Of course there are a lot of decent looking girls, but hey, there in it for the money remember? I couldn´t think of a more embarresing thing than to walk the streets whit a "GF". There are persons in the steets (i have never seen so many, not even in amsterdam) looking like there dead. Men so fat they can hardly walk, and a doll i his hand. Come on! This is not nice. I couldn´t get a hard-on even if i got payed. I can see the point, it´s very present in the "right" areas in Pattaya, and its cheap. But then again, how wants to be cheap?

Petemcc
08-09-06, 17:29
Seriously, Pattaya scen isn´t very nice. Of course there are a lot of decent looking girls, but hey, there in it for the money remember? I couldn´t think of a more embarresing thing than to walk the streets whit a "GF". There are persons in the steets (i have never seen so many, not even in amsterdam) looking like there dead. Men so fat they can hardly walk, and a doll i his hand. Come on! This is not nice. I couldn´t get a hard-on even if i got payed. I can see the point, it´s very present in the "right" areas in Pattaya, and its cheap. But then again, how wants to be cheap?As you will see from a post I made 3 months ago, I had a bit of a rough trip in Pattaya, but your comment that the scene isn't very nice and is frankly out of order. I was more than happy to walk the streets with my new Thai 'GF', because I had a pretty woman by my side, who I wasn't ashamed off, who wasn't apprehensive about spending time with a stranger- ie had some trust in me, and who quite frankly I wanted to fuck silly!

Not everyone can be a Romeo, or a film star. These girls make you feel like you are the most important man on Earth- fuck, they do one hell of a job there. One day, any of us may get fat and ugly, due to lifestyle or some disease process, but inside we are still that 21 year old.

Pattaya is a place of dreams come true. It doesn't matter what you personally think about the place, the fact is that it is unique ( and I know that word is abused a lot) in that there is nowhere in the world where there is such a concentration of LBFMs in such a small place, in such a user friendly environment.

Finally, who gives a fuck if they are in it for the money, of course they are. But you know something, I have fucked girls for money in most countries in Europe, ( and a few in Asia) and in fact I lost my Cherry to a pro in Amsterdam, but I can say that apart from one lady in Alice Springs, Australia, Pattaya girls are the only ones who actually make sex for money worthwhile.

Long live Pataya and all it is!

Freeler
08-09-06, 17:43
Petemcc,

I like your assessment.
"such a user friendly environment" ... LOL!

Hallo,

Get a life, go back there and do your fukken homework!

Brymor
08-09-06, 18:24
Hallo
What on earth are you talking about......I always thought the girls in Pattaya were in the business because they love old fat farangs not because they need money!

If you can't get a hard on in Pattaya then I suggest you book into an old people's home straight away and spend the rest of your days dribbling food down your chin and staring at the ceiling in your dressing gown and carpet slippers

Dinghy
08-10-06, 02:45
Awww - you mean everyone here thinks Hallo(ween) is a basket case? Perish the thought...

maybe that's a better name Hallo-weenie 8-)

Phantomtiger2
08-10-06, 22:25
Seriously, Pattaya scen isn´t very nice. Of course there are a lot of decent looking girls, but hey, there in it for the money remember? I couldn´t think of a more embarresing thing than to walk the streets whit a "GF". There are persons in the steets (i have never seen so many, not even in amsterdam) looking like there dead. Men so fat they can hardly walk, and a doll i his hand. Come on! This is not nice. I couldn´t get a hard-on even if i got payed. I can see the point, it´s very present in the "right" areas in Pattaya, and its cheap. But then again, how wants to be cheap?


Hallo,
I'm trying to understand why its so shameful for anyone to walk with a "GF". It's so common in Pattaya that nobody gives you a second look( unless you picked a real ugly gal or LB --then maybe get a second look). Its one of the reasons men of all shape and sizes go to Pattaya because one can have fun without any guilt.
BTW: I've been to Amsterdam and cant compare the 2. Amsterdam is more "window shopping" but Patts is more hands on, relaxed and enjoyable at a much cheaper cost.--IMO

PT

Lord Yorkshire
08-11-06, 01:18
mate,

your opinion on pattaya is fairly just in some ways, but one that is very personal to you and freedom of speech is a wonderful thing. but just one thing. why are you reading the pattaya board in that case? infact why are you surfing and contributing to a website of mongering in general, if you think the scene is not so good. obviously you have p4p in the past? so what's the difference? keep it behind closed doors? is that it?

i am 28 yrs old, and for fear of sounding like a prick, well above average looking. the tg's are consummate professionals, but i was approached by girls who wanted a bit of my time. i know the score. the things that come out of their mouths are almost like a tape loop. "you so sexy man. etc. " yeah, whatever love. but twice i went with tg's who didn't want paying and all i had to do was pay the barfine. but.

i could not walk down the street holding hands with them. i thought it a bit tacky, personally. i'll walk down the street holding hands with a girl when i fall in love with them and they are a partner in life. i could not go down on a tg either, again that's reserved for true love imho. but what an amazing time i had and what good fun. i was more than happy to get back to the hotel and show them all the care and attention they wanted (or should i say, that i wanted).

but. there is nothing wrong with walking down the street holding hands with the honey you're with if that's your thing.

so. i understand your opinons hallo, but it doesn't make it the rule.

pattaya is what it is, and what it has been for years and years. asides from the visual element you don't agree with, what about the numerous great bars to hang out at with mates, quaffing lovely cold cheap beer? the great restaurants dotted about? the excellent gogo's that i really enjoy. what about the disco's after hours that are littered with beautiful girls? the good music that spills out from every doorway, the numerous smiles. the warmth of the climate, the golf (if you play, some of the best in the world) the recreational drugs (again, if you are into that! )

pattaya is wonderful.

Veterano
08-11-06, 04:01
Hi Lord ~ Where are these "great restaurants dotted about"? Can you name a few names? The best place I have found is a very mediocre Sizzler ~

Have you been to Pattaya?

Good luck, Veterano

Lord Yorkshire
08-11-06, 07:01
Hi Lord ~ Where are these "great restaurants dotted about"? Can you name a few names? The best place I have found is a very mediocre Sizzler ~

Have you been to Pattaya?

Good luck, VeteranoVets,

Please note I did say 'dotted'. With the amount of eateries at our disposal, the 'good' restaurants are literally dotted.

Have u been to the Red Lion out past the Sukumvit Rd? Great food.

Bighorn Steakhouse next to Tim's Beer Bar does an excellent Pepper Steak.

Papaya 'pok Pok' is great from the stalls. All U can Eat on the 3rd Rd. accross from Xzyte Disco is decent. So, yeah there are a few. It's not the eating capital of the world, unless eating of the fur-burger is your thing, which Vets, I think you'd be well into.

There are options a plenty. Jomtien and Naklua has some decent places, and also on the road out to the Siam GC (can't remember the names) but again decent.

Have you been to Pattaya Vets?

Mangofan
08-11-06, 10:17
Vets,

Please note I did say 'dotted'. With the amount of eateries at our disposal, the 'good' restaurants are literally dotted.

Have u been to the Red Lion out past the Sukumvit Rd? Great food.

Bighorn Steakhouse next to Tim's Beer Bar does an excellent Pepper Steak.

Papaya 'pok Pok' is great from the stalls. All U can Eat on the 3rd Rd. accross from Xzyte Disco is decent. So, yeah there are a few. It's not the eating capital of the world, unless eating of the fur-burger is your thing, which Vets, I think you'd be well into.

There are options a plenty. Jomtien and Naklua has some decent places, and also on the road out to the Siam GC (can't remember the names) but again decent.

Have you been to Pattaya Vets?

That ALl U can Eat place on 3rd road is shit. I went there a few weeks ago for their pizza night. Took 45 minutes to get 1 mini pizza and waited an hour for the next; never showed. We finally just left. The one across from Carrefour is miles better.

The Traveler
08-11-06, 19:10
Where are these "great restaurants dotted about"? Can you name a few names? The best place I have found is a very mediocre Sizzler ~

Veterano,

the PIC restaurant in Soi 5 is one of my favorites, very nice setting and great food (Thai and Farang). The Somsak in Soi 1 is very good too and some Bangkok celebrities can be found there on the weekends. The Larn Thong at the Royal Cliff serves great classical Thai food and you have a nice view over the beach. The Sugar Hut at Thepprasit Road serves great food in a traditional Thai House ambience. Bruno's at Jomtien has some great farang food. The Rice Mill at the Royal Garden offers some great Chinese food and there are numerous other good restaurants which serve European, Indian, Japanese .... food. In short : there are great restaurants for every taste.

Solite
08-11-06, 19:11
there are several good resteraunts in pattaya. Kronberg across from areca lodge on soi dianna inn has a great fired pork chop. Tequila reef on soi 8 has good burrittos and and very good frozen magaritas, swiss resteraunt on soi cowboy is very good with a diverse menu. Mantra in the orchard restort is excellent food.

Solite

My only interest are the illegal, the immorral and the fattening

Sky Dog
08-11-06, 19:39
Hi Lord ~ Where are these "great restaurants dotted about"? Can you name a few names? The best place I have found is a very mediocre Sizzler ~


Fuji resterauant in the Big C plaza is great for sushi and japanese food. This is a chain, there are many in Bangkok.

Sky Dog

Lemon Tree
08-11-06, 20:59
It was true. Somsak has been in former times a very good, simple styled restaurant with excellent food.
Has been. Look at the photos. I made them this year in June.

Lemon Tree

Lemon Tree
08-11-06, 21:39
My experience is that in my mind the PIC-Kitchen in Soi 5 and the Vientiane Restaurant at the end of the Walking Street and Sugar-Hut at the Thepprasit Road are worth a view. For farang they cook excellent food. And the ambience in Sugar Hut and in PIC Kitchen is fantastic.
My Thai lady and her girlfriends were not so embraced about the cooking in Sugar Hut. They preferred more the Vientiane Restaurant, because they cook the food more spicy.
Nevertheless I am always curious and animate my Thai lady to show me the good local kitchens.
So I found this small kitchen on Central Road – about 100 or 200 meters away from the cross of Central Road and Soi Buakhao in the direction of Sukhumvit Road on the left side. They start cooking in the morning and are almost sold out at 3 or 4 pm. Excellent and very tasty (little bit spicy) food for an extraordinary low prize.
In the near surrounding of Central Road you can find in the little Soi’s small kitchens, where normally only Thai people eat. You can try there frogs and snails and other “tasty” Thai food. My slogan always is: Never say – I don’t like that and I don’t eat that before trying.
And I found out, that such exotic food is several times better than the Pizzas and Burgers and all this fast food you can buy in Pattaya too.

Enjoy your life. You only have this one.

Lemon Tree

LittleBigMan
08-12-06, 00:36
One thing about Thailand you can spend or you can be on a budget and still be happy. In Pattaya, when in town I like to eat at the parking lot across from the Alcatrza where the buses park. Can be a problem if the buses all leave after the show and you're still eating. The first stall has an English menu and I can feed the family until their hearts content. And if you don't like sitting in the heat eating go to the Big C shopping center and try the place across from Fuji, they have a cartoon crodcodile in front you can get BBQ or Hotpot, they have great watermelon shakes! After dinner and a little shopping for the family you can have dessert at Swensen! Ice cream and coffee!
Have not been to the all you can eat at the Montien Hotel lately but that place is was great the last time I was there for all you can eat seafood. The place next to the Montiel on Beach Rd. call the Starlite has good food with a few local hotties. The last time I was at this place I was waited on by one of the prettiest girls who was also a singer during the evening. I could barely eat and keep my eyes still without getting my little head chopped off!

Can't go hungry in Pattaya!

Veterano
08-12-06, 01:04
This is all good, but I must admit that I am not a bug and lizard guy ~ my idea of a good restaurant is the Bed in Bangkok, or maybe the Buffet at the JW Marriott, wish there were a few like this spotted around Pattaya

TT ~ The Rice Mill is in the Marriott adjacent to the Royal Garden, I am glad you had a good experience there, I thot it was terrible

Lord ~ I only go to Pattaya a few times a year, mainly to visit the Sizzler

Buena Sorte, Veterano

Dinghy
08-12-06, 02:21
The hoppers pic in the upper left is "water bugs" - never tried them - they look like gigantic cockroaches. Hoppers are actually tasty. The Japanese seem to like the scorpions, though (some unexplained reason) not to mention 200B each (hell, that's a beer bar barfine) 8-) (and it tastes better than scorpion, too) The buffet at Apex is either "good" or "bad" (no in between - if it's fresh it's good - usually) Fuji at BigC does relatively good Japanese for a (compared to US) reasonable price

One of my favourite places is a small Thai take-out (or eat in) basic food across the street from the beer bars on Buakhao. In May it was still 10B plus 5 for rice (Thai sized portions but not spicy enough for me) remember Thai take-out - a plastic baggie with a rubber band - you supply your own utensils

I really miss the old food garden that used to be at Royla Asia

LittleBigMan
08-12-06, 03:07
Dinghy,

Can't contest that but when in Thailand do as the Thai's do! Yes I know those plastic baggie with the rubber band very well, nightly! Have you had any fried chicken skin with a good imported beer?

LBM

Dinghy
08-12-06, 05:14
I drink Chag when I drink beer. Sometimes Tai. There's nothing quite like a few pieces of gai with some prik-kee-nnoo and a beer chang kuat yai (for those struggling with the anglicization - chicken with hot peppers and a large bottle of chang) maybe a bit of yom sausage and a few more peppers as well... (got to cut down on the beer though - tends to add weight) YUM!

Solite
08-12-06, 21:59
I also love the soup that the thai's come around with on the motorbikes 10 thb you can't beat it I usually eat that everyday for lunch and snack with a few of the bar girls on stuff they get from venders and such it makes for a more intersting trip when you eat local

Mike Asian
08-12-06, 22:23
One of my favorite eating places is on the little soi off Walking St. where Beach Club is. They have all types of seafood at good prices. It's not a restaurant, just one of those small stalls.

LittleBigMan
08-13-06, 00:12
Leo is my choice over Chang, Although can't seem to tell too much of a difference. Local for me is the night market out near the Reservior ( Horseshoe point ) Anything you need! Cooked or uncooked! I love the soups myself for me it's Bittermelon with pork. The soup stall has nearly 10 choices each night, the next one over is another favorite, oyster with scramble eggs and sprouts.

Enjoy,

Djts
08-13-06, 08:09
My favourite food when in Pattaya is a full English breakfast, specially after the night before.

Lovesnihon
08-13-06, 11:00
I'd add the MK markets buffet area as a good choice. 25 Baht for killer satay is a must.

The Vientaine restaurant on SOI 1 or the Walking Street is absolutely stellar. If you have a GF with you, the one on the Walking Street has a phenomenal view at night of the water.

There's an Indian restaurant called Shahib E Punjab near the Royal Garden Plaza that should be avoided. The korma tastes like it came out of a can.

Happy Munching,

LN

The Traveler
08-13-06, 13:51
It was true. Somsak has been in former times a very good, simple styled restaurant with excellent food.

Lemon Tree,

thanks, haven't been there for quite some time.
My absolute favourite is the PIC at Soi 5 due to it's great food and nice atmosphere, but usually I prefer the small foodstalls, cheap and tasty. I simply love Thai food and don't get why people travel around the world just to eat the very same food they eat at home.

Frankypanky
08-13-06, 14:21
Guys,


Sorry if its mentioned before...But how about 'Pink Lady' at the Beach Road??
Or did that went bad?? That sound unbelievable to me!

Still love their shrimps and crabs! Yes, I became a believer of seafood (and thai ladies of course..:D) in Thailand.

Shamas
08-13-06, 17:54
Berliner Bistro on soi 13, about half way between beach road and 2rd road, excellent German food.

For breakfast I at a place on soi 13 , it's on the same side as Berliner Bistro, it's an open air place with frresh seafood in fish tanks. I don't remember the name of the place but the food was excellent and cheap.

Shamas

Praise The Loard
08-14-06, 04:37
I think for those of you that at food at the stalls , you guys are very brave. I wouldn't eat at those places because I think I would get sick or stomach flu, because I'm not sure its very sanitized, if you know what I mean. I'd rather eat at restaurant or something like that where at least there are health standards, hopefully.

Streetlooker
08-14-06, 07:06
I really don't think you have much to worry about when eating at the food stalls. I eat there most of the time I am in thailand and have yet to get sick from it. Just do a visual check on the Meat sticks or chicken legs before they cook it and make sure they cook it pretty good. IMO some of the best grab in the world are those freakin beef on a stick stalls.

Retired Army
08-14-06, 08:31
I think for those of you that at food at the stalls , you guys are very brave. I wouldn't eat at those places because I think I would get sick or stomach flu, because I'm not sure its very sanitized, if you know what I mean. I'd rather eat at restaurant or something like that where at least there are health standards, hopefully.

I would rather eat at the food stalls where I can see what I am getting and how it's cooked. If you saw some of the kitchens and staff at the restaurants you would agree. I have eaten at Thai food stalls for over five years and not had any problems. Can't say the same for restaurants. Got a bad case of food poisioning at a five star hotel in BKK.

Pak Mike
08-14-06, 11:04
I would rather eat at the food stalls where I can see what I am getting and how it's cooked. If you saw some of the kitchens and staff at the restaurants you would agree. I have eaten at Thai food stalls for over five years and not had any problems. Can't say the same for restaurants. Got a bad case of food poisioning at a five star hotel in BKK.

Would have to agree 100% after more than 20 years in Asia. All is there to see, and if the stall owner looks healthy and clean and the food looks fresh, then go for it. Agree with Retired Army, many of the restaurant shop fronts look great, venture out the back and you are in for a shock. Also, check out the overnight storage where unsold food kept!!!

My last food poisining was at a five star hotel, I stay at please places often, don't have too many problems, but is certainly more frequently a problem than the food stalls.

Duniawala
08-14-06, 15:25
This thread should be re-titled, Pattaya Foods.

Interesting and enjoyable discussions though.

Member #2041
08-14-06, 18:14
My favorite food in Pattaya was a tuna pie that cost me 300 Baht bar fine and 500 for the service.

Rebad
08-14-06, 20:39
dont forget the crape man.

you can find him between 12:00 and 2:00am at the enterence of walking street.

desert crapes, ham and cheese crapes, the you call it crape.

good stuff, cooked to order.

oh yea,

if your going to eat local off a cart or food stall have your girl direct you.

she has a vested interest to keep you healthy and happy.

the local girls will keep you safe.

-unless your drunk, and your girl is not a girl.

Fast Eddie 48
08-14-06, 21:26
My favorite food in Pattaya was a tuna pie that cost me 300 Baht bar fine and 500 for the service.


to member#2041

I love the fish tacos myself 500 bht off the beach road hot and spicy too.




fast eddie 48

Lovesnihon
08-14-06, 23:53
Hey Boys, don't worry about getting sick. There are tons of hot girls working at the Pattaya International Hospital. So getting sick--or not being sick and going there any way---isn't so bad!

And I agree, the food in the stalls rocks.

LN

LittleBigMan
08-15-06, 00:56
Don't be afraid you only live once! Food stalls Ah Loy! Don't forget to try the fried bugs and roasted pig rack!

SidTheSexist
08-15-06, 09:36
Sorry to change the mood guys, but I just got back from Patts, and Im afraid I got a few things on my chest!!!
Being English myself, it pains me to say that there appears to be more and more of the stereotypical British wankers, roaming the streets (as well as other nationals too). The place is slowly but surely deterioating (sp?) into a benidorm or costa resort. Ive only been going to Patts for 2.5 years now but even in this short period, the changes have been very noticeable for me. I always wonder what is going through the minds of these families who are pushing their kids down walking street at all hours. A mamasan from a soi 8 bar told me that a 15yr old English lad, had bar fined, one of her girls. I passed this off as a joke until a couple of hours later when he walked past the bar and the mama pointed him out. He couldnt have been any older than 16 and was accompanied by who appeared to be his father. I also saw for myself, a young lad who couldnt have been older than 15, in club boesche with a bunch of older blokes one of which was obviously his dad. I know some kids (especially farang kids) can look a hell of a lot older than they are, but Im talking about a kid who wouldnt get served for a 10p mix up back home!
I definatly kept a fraction more of my wits about me this visit when out on the drink. I simply didnt feel the 99% level of safety I did only 2.5 yrs ago on my first visit. JMHO.
Anyone agree or am I being too harsh?
Sid

PS, I still had a great time in Patts and cannot emphasise enough, how much more I prefer the place to bangkok (as far as P4P goes)

Lord Yorkshire
08-15-06, 10:22
Sid,

I got back myself only two weeks ago. I'm English but now live in Bondi, Australia. I have to admit there did seem to be more Father/Son combinations. There is a GoGo halfway up Soi 8 on the right side as you are walking towards 2nd Road, just before the Beer Bars start. (forget the name, but they have blowing darts out of vaginal areas to pop the balloons hung from the ceiling and the insertion of eggs into vaginal areas and then cleverly dropped from a height to break in a glass on the floor - u know it now don't u?) Anyway, that aside, i did meet a larger than life Cockney geezer who was there, ringside, getting stuck into the birds, and generally enjoying himself, being a bit lewd to say the least. This is all fine, we have all done it, but I did have a short sharp inhalation of breath when he introduced me to his 18 year old son. It's not quite right IMHO. But live and let live at the same time.

Another thing which strikes me is the amount of families that just don't do their homework and who have obviously got cheap deals to Pattaya thru Teletext or something, or have a picture of Thailand all being like Phi-Phi or something. Only to land in Pattaya and see what actually goes on. I witnessed many an argument between husband and wife, kids upset etc. etc. Unfortunately then, they get back home and tell their equally uninformed friends that Thailand is a hole. Not really fair.

But I had an unbelievable time, and I love it!

Retired Army
08-15-06, 11:00
The place is slowly but surely deterioating (sp?) into a benidorm or costa resort. Ive only been going to Patts for 2.5 years now but even in this short period, the changes have been very noticeable for me.

I definatly kept a fraction more of my wits about me this visit when out on the drink. I simply didnt feel the 99% level of safety I did only 2.5 yrs ago on my first visit. JMHO.
Anyone agree or am I being too harsh?
Sid

PS, I still had a great time in Patts and cannot emphasise enough, how much more I prefer the place to bangkok (as far as P4P goes)

Being American I don't know what a benidorm or costa resort is. But I quit going to Pattaya about ten years ago for probably pretty much the same reason when it became a haven for Euro trash and the Russian Mafia. I first went to Pattaya in 1973, imagine the changes I have seen.

As far as the P4P, there is more to Thailand than just that.

Erik
08-15-06, 11:54
On the other hand, I am quite satisfied that we see fewer and fewer of these Yankee army in good old Patts these days.

You can't get everybody happy, can you ?

Retired Army
08-15-06, 12:01
On the other hand, I am quite satisfied that we see fewer and fewer of these Yankee army in good old Patts these days.

You can't get everybody happy, can you ?

I ain't Yankee Army. I am from the South where we are commonly referred to as "Rebs," "White Trash" or "Red Necks."

Dinghy
08-15-06, 17:58
I ain't Yankee Army. I am from the South where we are commonly referred to as "Rebs," "White Trash" or "Red Necks."

If you are 'Murcan - you are "yankee" (dog) <remembering old lines from long ago...> no matter if y'all ah frum the south o' not 8-)

The Traveler
08-15-06, 20:38
I think for those of you that at food at the stalls , you guys are very brave. I wouldn't eat at those places because I think I would get sick or stomach flu, because I'm not sure its very sanitized, if you know what I mean. I'd rather eat at restaurant or something like that where at least there are health standards, hopefully.
Praise the Loard,

I rather prefer to eat at a food stall where I can see what is done to my food than a restaurant which may have roaches and rats in the kitchen. If your steak will fall down they will simply put it back on your plate in a kitchen, or the chief might sneeze on your food or whatever, that's impossible at a food stall. BTW, all food is cooked and if it would be so dirty most Thais must be sick.

The Traveler
08-15-06, 20:44
Hey Boys, don't worry about getting sick. There are tons of hot girls working at the Pattaya International Hospital. So getting sick--or not being sick and going there any way---isn't so bad!

And I agree, the food in the stalls rocks.

LN
Lovesnihon,

correct, I once talked up a cute receptionist at the PIC hospital while Tapioca and I were waiting for his results of his HIV test. She was a good lay but a bit hard to get. :)

Lovesnihon
08-16-06, 00:02
Hey Traveller,

Either me or my buddy goes there every year with some kind of strange ailment, and it never fails how sweet and charming the girls are at PIC.

Two years ago I had overdone it in the sun, and the doctor who took care of me was an absolute knockout. I tried everything, was unsuccessful, but have been trying to get sick enough again to go for a 2nd shot if possible !

This year, my buddy goes in for a check up and the girls are just laughing their heads off. We catch one surfing the internet, and another comes up to me and asks me what I'm reading. I took one of the real estate magazines and tell her I'm looking for a new house we can live in together. It was hilarious...helps it live up to its name of the LOS in seconds...

No luck in the PIC, but the nights at the Toy Bar made up for it this past trip anyhow...

Onward !

LN

Praise The Loard
08-16-06, 02:48
I saw this discussed on another site, was wondering if anybody has any inputs?:

"In recent months Pattaya has seen a serious increase of incidents of shootouts and fighting between competing juvenile gangs. These gangs come mostly from outside Pattaya City, from areas like Banampheur, Huayyai, Bangsaray and Sattahip. They come on motorcycles in groups of about 10. They rob people, make burglaries, sell drugs and do other crimes. When they go out drinking together they make problems for innocent people and they start fights with other gangs. We have seen incidents with gangs driving by bars and shooting their guns indiscriminately at anyone sitting in that bar. We have had many people complaining about having been harassed by these gangs when driving on Sukhumvit Road or Jomtien Beach Road, many times guns have been pointed at people in the traffic. "

SidTheSexist
08-16-06, 03:34
As far as the P4P, there is more to Thailand than just that.Yep Retired, I know there is. In fact theres a hell of a lot more to thailand than just P4P, but that is generally all I like to comment about, on this board.
I didnt mean to start a whole 'Murcan Vs Eurotrash debate either. Just interested in any similar or opposite opinions about the general bunch of mismatches which seem to make up the majority of Pattaya these days. Like I said, I did actually have a great time and I most likely will go back. But I for one, like Pattaya for the male adult playground that it is, and should remain; not for being a family resort. I coincidentally bumped into a friend one night last week. He had came with his farang GF on the recomendation of a man they "met on the plane, coming over," (duh, i know), but the point is that they asked me where they could go where it wasnt in your face P4P action yet still lively enough to enjoy (them being a young couple 24yrs old). The only thing I could recommend was the bus station the next morning to carry on their journey to another city/island.
Sid

Ruben X
08-16-06, 08:24
Came across the following at another site. No confirmation at the official Kitty Hawk site. Anyone know the dates, if it's true?

"Things could be looking good for bar owners in Pattaya in the first half of next month, as the USS Kitty Hawk with its 6,000 crew will be in town for 7 days along with its escort ships. Not too good for the locals or other tourists though who never seem to appreciate the competition that the navy guys bring. So if you're planning a trip to Pattaya in early September, be aware that there will be a bunch of horny seamen in town."

Phantomtiger2
08-16-06, 17:54
I saw this discussed on another site, was wondering if anybody has any inputs?:

"In recent months Pattaya has seen a serious increase of incidents of shootouts and fighting between competing juvenile gangs. These gangs come mostly from outside Pattaya City, from areas like Banampheur, Huayyai, Bangsaray and Sattahip. They come on motorcycles in groups of about 10. They rob people, make burglaries, sell drugs and do other crimes. When they go out drinking together they make problems for innocent people and they start fights with other gangs. We have seen incidents with gangs driving by bars and shooting their guns indiscriminately at anyone sitting in that bar. We have had many people complaining about having been harassed by these gangs when driving on Sukhumvit Road or Jomtien Beach Road, many times guns have been pointed at people in the traffic. "


Yes gangs are on the increase all over LOS and not just Patts.
BKK also had its increase in gang violence past 2 years, but overall its still safer than most "westernize" countries like US or UK.

PT

Member #2041
08-17-06, 05:08
So if you're planning a trip to Pattaya in early September, be aware that there will be a bunch of horny seamen in town."

If there's one thing that Pattaya's labor force has plenty of experience in dealing with, it's lots of seamen.

Berty Boy
08-19-06, 20:43
I found this item online. hope you find it as amusing as I did.

Our News is Always New LATEST NEWS

Friday 18th July 2006

Bangkok Police Launch Sweep of Pattaya Bars.

On Thursday evening a squad of 70 Bangkok-based police decided it was time they had a little sojourn into the fleshpots of Pattaya and spent some hours wandering about the various beer bar complexes and go-go bars as well as a couple of the more infamous soapy massage joints. Accompanied by a frothing gaggle of media hacks, all armed with television cameras as well as the latest in still digital cameras, the upstanding men and women of the Bangkok police force visited the Sabailand Massage Parlour on Second Road, at the corner of Soi 3 if any of you are not quite sure where to find it. Here they interviewed a number of the more attractive and younger looking girls, asking them to produce their Identification cards in order to prove that they were all over the legal age to engage in activities involving water, soap and excitable men.
Satisfied with this, the police troop then moved onto a number of beer bars in the Soi 2 area and once again were compelled to chat with the more attractive and younger looking girls, checking identification cards and asking about the health and well-being of sundry family members and farmyard stock.
Then it was into a couple of the go-go bars where many members of the media were excited to find a large number of ladies who were wearing g-string bikinis. The flashbulbs of the cameras in the media scrum helped to really light up the dressing rooms and general area of the chrome pole palaces while the very professional police persons asked the girls to produce their ID cards. Most of the girls were forced to go into their lockers in order to show the plastic cards, explaining it was difficult to keep the card on their person when dressed in not much more than a pair of boots and a smile.
A senior policemen told one bar owner that the 2:00AM closing time should be enforced and that staying open later than this is against the law. The bar owner allegedly told the policeman that he paid a little extra money each month in order to stay open later, but the Bangkok officer said whoever he paid the money to it couldn’t possibly be a genuine member of the constabulary, as this sort of thing was frowned upon. He warned the bar owner to be wary of mafia types who tried to pass themselves off as policemen in order to extort money from law-abiding citizens.
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Evil Penivel
08-21-06, 02:33
Marc has confirmed the report that an Eden Club will open in Pattaya in the very near future. I don't know any details, just onpassing what I've read elsewhere. But edenpapa definitely confirmed it was true, said he'd be soon signing the lease on the new club.

If you're not familiar with the Eden Club, there's plenty of info on it elsewhere in the Thailand thread, just do a quick search.

Evil

Phantomtiger2
08-22-06, 00:42
Marc has confirmed the report that an Eden Club will open in Pattaya in the very near future. I don't know any details, just onpassing what I've read elsewhere. But edenpapa definitely confirmed it was true, said he'd be soon signing the lease on the new club.

If you're not familiar with the Eden Club, there's plenty of info on it elsewhere in the Thailand thread, just do a quick search.

Evil


I only hope Marc adjust his prices downward(from his BKK location) as hiring 2 gals at Eden for 90min at Bkk prices is not consider cheap for Patts.
You can get similar service by hiring 2 gals for ST in a room on Soi 6 at half the price of Edens.--IMO

PT

Red Alert
08-22-06, 02:11
berty boy,

i found the article amusing too. i guess it makes them look good by doing that every so often. everyone knows what makes pattaya work, what keeps the ball bouncing. sex! mongerers, just be mindful of who you deal with ie. **** girls, etc, etc.

Martians
08-22-06, 05:41
Edens is mostly an over priced place where guys get off by watching peasant hookers shower, stick a variety of vibrators, dildos etc into themselves, all within a very strict 90 minute time frame. Soi 6 is mostly short term rooms with peasant hookers, who will double up with you because that means two payments not one. Soi 6 is probably 50% ladyboy so if are into those freaks. The ladies most likely will not have toys with them as they are not working from a boutique shop like Edens.

If you want cheap doubles, go along the Beach in Pattaya and pick up two plain looking hookers. Agree on the deal beforehand then being them back and shag them senseless. There are also short time hotels around Soi 15. Most slappers are not really into lesbian play so you need the hardened pros for that. It is a fantasy anyway and means you have to watch two potential thieves, not one. But if you negotiate up front you should have no problems, especially with the dogs who will welcome the business.

Duniawala
08-22-06, 14:05
Edens is mostly an over priced place where guys get off by watching peasant hookers shower, stick a variety of vibrators, dildos etc into themselves, all within a very strict 90 minute time frame. Soi 6 is mostly short term rooms with peasant hookers, who will double up with you because that means two payments not one. Soi 6 is probably 50% ladyboy so if are into those freaks. The ladies most likely will not have toys with them as they are not working from a boutique shop like Edens.

If you want cheap doubles, go along the Beach in Pattaya and pick up two plain looking hookers. Agree on the deal beforehand then being them back and shag them senseless. There are also short time hotels around Soi 15. Most slappers are not really into lesbian play so you need the hardened pros for that. It is a fantasy anyway and means you have to watch two potential thieves, not one. But if you negotiate up front you should have no problems, especially with the dogs who will welcome the business.
Hey Martian, with less than 15 posts you have suddenly become the Mr. Know-It-All about the Thai scene. Seems you have a big disdain for the BGs and they are the low life in your view. Your comments are offensive.

Just go back to the low life place you come from, and be happy there. And being a brit you don't even have a command of your own mother toungue. You need to go back to school, boy.

Martians
08-22-06, 14:34
You are probably breaking the serial antagonist rules with your attack on me and my use of English (where you make at least two mistakes in your own English). These peasant prostitutes are uneducated peasant prostitutes. They fuck, suck, lick, chat, hug for money and prefer not to do lesbian and anal as a general rule. This goes for the women on Soi 6 too but maybe not for the ladyboys. Indeed, when you ask for anal, the lady hookers often say they are not ladyboy hookers. (Maybe the ladyboy hookers say the same thing too) Some guys think they can talk their way into their knickers just as the slappers worm their way into their wallets. That is just a fact, Jack. I just answered the bloke’s question, ok? There was a place on Soi Post Office that might suit him more. Maybe you can tell him its name. My name here is Martians, not Martian, Duniawalas.

I got some information out of this and gave some back. If you have no information to give, please don’t attack me for giving some, ok? I certainly don’t want your comments and I don’t see what use they are. Maybe get some anger management training.

Evil Penivel
08-22-06, 20:29
Edens is mostly an over priced place where guys get off by watching peasant hookers shower, stick a variety of vibrators, dildos etc into themselves, all within a very strict 90 minute time frame.

Two quick questions, Martians- How many sessions have you had at the Eden Club? Have you ever actually been there at all?

Eden offers much more than lesbian shows. Many Eden customers -myself included - aren't particularly interested in the lesbo stuff and the girls skip it entirely. Up to you. While the standard session is 90 minutes, longer sessions are possible, as is all-night take-away with one or more ladies.

And overpriced? By what standard? I suppose that if you flip burgers or scrub toilets for minimum wage (or perhaps on the dole, Martians?), Eden can seem expensive. But for anyone who takes home a normal salary, it is tremendous value for money.

The Eden Club is well established and deservedly famous within its niche. The potential customers for Pattaya Eden wouldn't want to go to Soi 6 bars in search of services, just as a big part of the BKK customers don't hang around NEP or Cowboy. Customers won't encounter hordes of drunken punters at the Eden Club and a high level of service is guaranteed.

A lot of the BKK Eden regulars have neither the time nor the inclination to spend hours trying to set up a threesome with BGs or FLers that may or may not turn out to be satisfactory. That's why I've become an Eden loyalist. Never any hassles, never any rip-offs, and the sessions have always met or exceeded my expectations. For the services Eden offers, the price is exceptionally reasonable and I'm happy to pay it.

Whether there is a big enough customer base in Pattaya to make an Eden Club economically viable, I have no idea. But in a big market, there's room for an upscale operation like an Eden Club or a Rolls Royce dealership as well as used car lots and Soi 6 bars. Each type of operation has its own customer base and they don't compete with each other, so both can thrive.

Even Martians can find a soul mate at a price he can afford in LOS, probably on Beach Road in Pattaya or Soi 3 in BKK.

Evil

Gladiator
08-22-06, 20:37
Soi 6 is probably 50% ladyboy so if are into those freaks.

I agree that English wasn’t Martians’ strength at school, but neither was Maths.

The percentage of LB’s in soi 6 is nowhere near 50%, I’d say about 10-15% at most.

Martians, you need to keep working on those Maths skills, at this rate you won’t get any Fields medal in the near future.

Duniawala
08-22-06, 23:49
Gladiator, not only his English skills need improving, along with kindergarden Math but he must be delusional as well. He keeps thinking he is a plural calling himself Martians.

We don't need good hearted folks like him in this Thailand forum.

Shamas
08-22-06, 23:55
This forum is about adults and our quest for pleasures of the flesh. When it becomes an English class then we'll grade on grammer and all the other dots and hooky looking things.

Lets get on with the smut, sluts, trash and things that make my pickle puke.

Shamas O'D

Member #2041
08-22-06, 23:58
Gladiator, not only his English skills need improving, along with kindergarden Math but he must be delusional as well. He keeps thinking he is a plural calling himself Martians.

We don't need good hearted folks like him in this Thailand forum.

Personally, I've found his sarcasm and deadpan sense of humor quite refreshing and entertaining. More entertaining, in point of fact, than any of your recent posts

Martians
08-23-06, 02:11
Phantomtiger 2: There you go. Edens supply a specialised menu. It is, as I said, unlikely you will get a similar experience in Soi 6. Excluding the ladyboys of course. It seems there are now math/maths medals (small m Ladies G&D) for counting ladyboys. I can't say I have counted all the ladyboys in Soi 6 and expressed them as a percentage of all the peasant hookers in Soi 6 but Lady G has done that for us. Usually I just count to ten when a cyber w-r starts jerking off.

I have been to Edens with the yellow line, the small bar, when the screwing was on premises. Not my cup of tea, paying over priced rice farmers' daughters to catch my cum on their little noses. I like a little romance, flowers, a bunch roses, stuff like that. And a tight wet pussy, a slim waist and big knockers.

As regards flipping burgers etc. Instead of ignorant flaming, why not supply some info? And don't look down on burger flippers. All the duck footed flippers of Pattaya have barebacked all the ladies ye guys lust after. Ye get very sticky seconds.

Duniawala: If you bothered to check, you would seem the name Martian is already taken. Butt checking is not your strong point. Or is butt checking your strong point? I would say you are from an ethnic minority (Indian, I would say or one with no interest in football at any rate) and you have a big hang up over it. Get over it. The birds don't need your negativity, only your money.

And as for slagging off the English guys who rule Pattaya: they all have more money than you. Times are good. ( and will be better if we get three points from Blackburn tonight)

So Duniawala or wtf you call yourself, cheer up and supply some information. If all you want to do is flame and spam, I suggest you use the Fight Club thread. As you are a troll, I will ignore you from now on here and in the Fight Club.

Your friend(s)

Martians.

Martians
08-23-06, 16:52
paulothai,

phantomtiger was asking if he can get the eden experience cheaper in soi 6. i am merely trying to tell him "edens supply a specialised menu". the eden women have to audition in front of marc who own the gaff. there are no such interviews on soi 6 that i knowe of, though some of the fleapits there are seedy enough. if he tries to get an eden experience on soi 6, the odds are against him, hit or miss. the hit and miss (or [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) or [CodeWord103] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103)) is also on the eden menu but even most of the soi 6 ducks would blink if asked up front for that, or for anal. most soi 6 ladies will say they are not ladyboys so they don't do the kaiber pass routine.

phantomtiger's best bet is to pony up to eden or just pass on it like the mosre seasoned mongers do. thailand is about fucking around, heavy rinking, some bollock acting on the beach, a bit of golf, butlins with a bonk on some little rice guzzler.

cheers mate.

Erikla
08-23-06, 23:53
Ok, lets have sum fun again:

http://www.pattayacitynews.net/news_23_08_49_2.htm

Large Erections Planned for Pattaya.

At a meeting held at Pattaya City Hall on Wednesday, the very busy Mayor Niran announced the allocation of 46 million baht of the annual budget to the construction of two large archways on the borders of the city. The giant erections will be similar to but much more grandiose than the archway currently spanning Walking Street and will be festooned with lights so that even in darkness people driving along Sukhumvit highway will know they are entering the outskirts of Pattaya.

Brilliant! :-)

Martians
08-24-06, 02:59
Erickla,

I have to agree with you mate. Sounds great. Everyone has to drive under two big erections on their way in. I tihnk the erections shuld overlap in the middle of the road with both entering a hairy coconut type structure, one from the front and one from the back and a smal motor jkeeping them entering and exiting it. And there should be white foamy stuff cascading down into a pool below where statues of little nymphs with names like Lek and Fon look skywards, their mouths open to catch the white, creamy foam.

Theen there should be sign reading "Pattaya Paradise, no need for the great white slappers". This would give the ugly fat white wome the message they are not welcome unless they like tomboys.

I hope to be back in a few months, pinching their cute little arses, pulling their tits and giivng them full on facials if they are good. My only problem is that my dick is like some anonymous posters: short and thick.

But then

Short and thick
Does the trick
Long and thin
Goes too far in.

I loved poetry at school. And yes, I fucked the English teacher. She had a nice bush. but nothing like the smooth bron machines of Thailand.

sawasdee

Martians
08-24-06, 05:49
Newbies, I usually hang out in the Dogs Bollox and go on to Lek Hotel for late night drinking and tit pinching when the lads are up for it. But many guys are not familiar with Pattaya and run the risk of getting the wrong take from the hand pump brigade. Here is a map of Soi 13 and another of Soi 6 where dirty action is available in places like King Kong. These PDFs are just to give you a taste of the pussy. Soi 6 used to be good many years ago before the ladyboys and their customers got a foothold. Even if Lady Gladiator is right and 20% are ladyboys, that is 20% too many.

A word of warning. At Lek and Dogs Bolloxs, we don't like know it all wankers, ladyboys or their puffy customers. We support our boys in Iraq and Afghanistan and if you don't like that, go somewhere else. Cheers.

Martians

Good result last night against Blackburn. Great to see Chelsea get it up the arse. (But don't say that in the DB unless you want a Liverpool kiss or a Glasgow handshake which some wankers obviously want.)

I hope the PDFs load ok. The hotels in Soi 13 are ok, quiet but a little pricey as they are so near the cum catchers of Beach Road.

SidTheSexist
08-25-06, 03:33
i loved poetry at school. and yes, i fucked the english teacher. she had a nice bush. but nothing like the smooth bron machines of thailand.sawasdee
toffee boy, clearly thats all you done with the english teacher. she obviously didnt teach you much english. did you have her permission to fuck her or was it you and a bunch of your scouse mates gang [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) her?
the dogs bollox - haha, i seen one of your lot 2 weeks ago with the t shirt on. no p***s, a***s or g**s allowed, something like that isn't it? funny how you can promote such an image yet be living/holidaying in someone else's country.
its a pity that you have enough about you to see past the stuck up ugly western women back home, yet you have to bring that ridiculous fuckin english attitude out here with you. shame, i would certainly enjoy meeting members who could enjoy a beer over the epl, but i wouldnt be living out here if i shared your attitude. your lot only reinforce my previous posts about the amount of shitbags roaming pattaya these days.

sid

Martians
08-25-06, 04:38
Sid and others: Lay off my Englsh teacher. She did her best. And Sid. Maybe you are a Scouser too. It should be "I saw one of your lot'.

There are scumbags go into the Dogs Bollox like there are scumbags in all bars. But maybe you have been out of Blighty too long and the sun has got to you. I go to the Dogs Bollox for business and football. Like all bars, there are wankers there I would not [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on. But it has lots of strong points. See you on the Thai women section and I will explain.

Martians
08-25-06, 09:10
Some of the cyber wankers were going on about Pattaya mafia and similar shit. By Thai standards, there is a lot of quick cash in Pattaya. This means you get unsavoury types, not just in the Dogs Bollox but in other places as well. Some places have tubby little security guards but you don't have to worry about them. The guys who will kick the shit out of you work in the kitchens and other places out of sight where htye have the tools of their trade. You fuck with the bull, you get the horn. So don't push the envelope at your hotel.

Beach Road comes in for a lot of slagging by the cyber wimps. Beach Road is very safe especially within normal hours and if you are anyway sober. Why? Because of the heavies, the guys renting boats and shit like that. They don't want any aggro but if ladyboys or any others start acting up, these guys will sort them out. The Old Bill will pick up the pieces.

Generally, I stick to my own cabbage patch, Soi 7 to Walking Street, giving Queertown the miss. IMHO, if you venture far off the beaten path in Pattaya, you're a fucking idiot and you will get what is coming to you. The same applies if you wear expensive tom foolery in a small town with a million hookers, yabba heads and the rest.

The biggest nuisances are drunk farangs who think because they are getting screwed that they are tough guys. Places like The Dogs Bollox keep them out and is better for it.

Speaking of which, we are up against Spurs tomorrow so The DB would be a good place to watch it. Chelsea have a hard one and hopefully the Hammers will do in the Reds.

Cheers

Phantomtiger2
08-26-06, 00:41
phantomtiger was asking if he can get the eden experience cheaper in soi 6. i am merely trying to tell him "edens supply a specialised menu". the eden women have to audition in front of marc who own the gaff. there are no such interviews on soi 6 that i knowe of, though some of the fleapits there are seedy enough. if he tries to get an eden experience on soi 6, the odds are against him, hit or miss. the hit and miss (or [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) or [CodeWord103] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103)) is also on the eden menu but even most of the soi 6 ducks would blink if asked up front for that, or for anal. most soi 6 ladies will say they are not ladyboys so they don't do the kaiber pass routine.

phantomtiger's best bet is to pony up to eden or just pass on it like the mosre seasoned mongers do. thailand is about fucking around, heavy rinking, some bollock acting on the beach, a bit of golf, butlins with a bonk on some little rice guzzler.

cheers mate.


bro martians,

1st)i dont know how you even got me involved with this discussion. i only put out a simple comment about eden pricing for patts (see my only post about this (post #697 and just to note i said "imo=in my opinion only!!!)
2)you are absolutely wrong about everything as i'm still wondering how you made the above conclusions without the facts.
i've been to edens in bkk and have "pony up at edens". admit i had a good time but the original post was all about my feelings on pricing for patts and not about how good a time one will have.
3)you are again wrong about soi 6. i have indeed hired 2 gals and had a similar although not identical experience like edens. facts: it was less than 1/2 the cost of edens and it lasted 2 hours and 2 shots(over the 90min set by edens).
i'm not into the "toy" thing so didnt matter if soi 6 had them or not.
at soi 6, with money, you can make your own custom menu.
4)odds are not against you on soi 6. all you have to do is ask the papasan for recommendations, interview the gals yourself, give papa a little tip and you are set. note: not all houses on soi 6 will have everything you need so just walk out and cross the street and try again. its that simple.
5)pattaya is not all about getting "wasted" all the time. i can never truly enjoy myself when i'm not in control, maybe for you, but not me.

now, lets all stop here and go back to mongering issues otherwise as jackson suggested, all flaming discussions should continue on the "fight club thread".

peace all

pt

Martians
08-26-06, 04:40
Phantomtiger: Agreed. Whatever floats your boat. Some guys here just want to argue and waffle. If you know the score in Soi 6 and other places, great. Have fun,

Cheers mate.

Poupard2000
08-26-06, 08:38
Pattaya offers a large choice of girls and most of the punters have favourite pick up places given their budgets or their tastes.

Some are hunting on the beach road trying to find a gem for 500 bahts in the middle of low level girls... some punters are looking for the quality and the beauty and are going only in the most famous gogos as Superbaby or Happy.

I have discovered Pattaya six years ago and it was an earthquake in my life.

I have tried all the type of places:

Soapy massages, gogo... most of the time, it was too professional for me, I like to create a personal contact with the girl. I like the GFE. Furthermore, the higher cost of gogos was not ever justified by the quality of the service provided by the girl. Some of gogos girls are only ST oriented... not my cup of tea.

For my first years I was mainly Open beer bar oriented ... but I found more and more difficult to find a stunner in these places. Most of the time, the bars are hiring very pretty girls just to catch punters

.... Come Drink inside please sexy man, handsome man .....

but these girls are most of the time leaving the customers drink their beer alone or will introduce you to a low quality girl older than my mother.

Year after yera, I had to visit more beer bars (meaning a lot of time, drinks and money) before to catch the lady of the night... It was really disappointing.

The discovery of soi 6 was a REVOLUTION for me. This soi had only a bunch of bars six years ago... I remember the two Jasmine, the Bull Dog, the King Kong. This soi was not like it is nowadays... But I found there the best girls I ever found in Pattaya.

Of course, most of the girls are scumbags as everywhere in Pattaya but when I found a pretty girl, she was most of the time a very kind person, very active in the bed and most of the time in the Girl Friend Experience.

Generally I do not take girls for short time but for long time and most of the time, girls were very happy to escape from the bar for a day or more. Sometimes girls were not attracted by myself but it was very easy to detect this lack of chemistry on the divan. So I only barfined girls who seems to have feelings for me. My percentage of mistakes was very low soi 6.

Last week, I have counted more than 50 bars in soi 6... this means that this soi is growing very quickly... I counted only 34 bars sixteen months ago.

Soi SIX is more and more trendy. On the other hand, soi 8 or even soi 7 are losing customers (but I should say that I was often disppointed by the girls found in these soi).

In soi six, I recommend: TG Bar, sexy soi six, Roxy, Red Point (but less good than a year ago), Bee, Butterfly, Mandarin... I do not know the new class Kiss Cool.

It seems that ST prices are going up... Stunners are reluctant to fuck for 500 and ask most of the time 700/800.

Long time are following the same trend: 1500 bahts for stunners... but always 1000 for a basic girl.

Martians
08-27-06, 03:18
I reckong/guess/figure in aother few years, Soi 8 in particular but also Soi 7 will be dead monger wise. Already, there are lots of tailor shops run by swarthy gentlemen springing up. More of them will move in, plus some poshers eateries/cafes/bars such as the two on Soi 7. Similar sorts of places will make those Sois better family type places and will really cut up the mongering experience as Soi 6 is a lot further up and will be let grow as a consolation prize. I see in your face mongering getting pushed further away from the beach and prices going up as a result.

The problem is what to do with the freelancers. The malls won;t take htem all in. Currnelty generally only the prettiest use them. Once they make a bolt hole for the Beach Road freelancers, the big clean up can start.

Mai Yao
08-27-06, 15:46
Beach Road comes in for a lot of slagging by the cyber wimps. Beach Road is very safe especially within normal hours and if you are anyway sober. Why? Because of the heavies, the guys renting boats and shit like that. They don't want any aggro but if ladyboys or any others start acting up, these guys will sort them out. The Old Bill will pick up the pieces.

Two months ago I would have agreed with you abouch Beech safety, but over the last mont or so I have noticed a dramatic increase in the amount of punks and gang-boys hanging along the beech walk. Untill this past month I have never encountered active "pimping" along the beech, but have encountered guys soliciting for their girlfriends more than a few times lately.

Some girls I have gotten to know over the years report it is the worse they have seen. Some of these guys "take over" some of the prime benches at night and only allow their girls to sit there, especially near RGP.

These punks are also harassing the regular girls for money. When they see them go off, then return from a trick, they are hit up for B100-200 "protection".

In the last six weeks, I've seen 2 nasty fights on the sidewalk and 2 weeks ago, a big "gang bang" on the beech itself; about 11pm, no cops bothered to show.
There is a new police chief in town and he doesn't seem to give a shit about what is happening there, but it is not the safe place it used to be.

Too many of these dudes are hopped up and drunk. Walk past a bunch of them at the wrong time, like when they have just run out of booze and have no money, you can easily find yourself a target of oppurtunity like a Brit friend of a friend who picked up a girl just after midnight, walked with her up soi 10 and got jumped by some guys who followed him from the beech. Hespent 8 days in the hospital but considers himself lucky to have survived, his beech girl actually jumped in and got the guys to stop kicking him.

Do not walk alone there, especially if you have a load on.

Martians
08-29-06, 06:26
EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted because it contributed nothing of value and in fact constituted a complete waste of bandwidth.

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex. Let's stick to the subject.

Phantomtiger2
08-30-06, 08:06
It seems that ST prices are going up... Stunners are reluctant to fuck for 500 and ask most of the time 700/800.

Long time are following the same trend: 1500 bahts for stunners... but always 1000 for a basic girl.

Never took a LT on Soi 6 as for me as they are good for ST. I pick LT at other outdoor beer bars in Patts.
ST at Soi 6 is still 500b but better to go earlier in the day when places are opening and business is light. Later in the evening with more traffic and competition , prices could go up.

PT

Red Alert
08-31-06, 02:15
Originally Posted by Poupard2000

It seems that ST prices are going up. Stunners are reluctant to fuck for 500 and ask most of the time 700/800.

Long time are following the same trend: 1500 bahts for stunners, but always 1000 for a basic girl.

Poupard2000,

A way to deal with the inflation of ST/LT prices is to get the issue straight prior to closing the deal. Personally, If I choose a particular girl (stunner) and I think she may be expecting that big pay out I get it clear before going to the room that this is the price take it or leave it. If she is cool and accommodating to my liking she may get a bit extra after the fact. Stick with 500 ST and 1000 LT. And like I said if you are really digging the paricular girl be a bit generous later on. That could be dinner, shopping, or whatever. Whats the now infamous bargirl quote "Up to you". ?

Red Alert

European Man
09-01-06, 12:07
I advise you about these two good italian resturants in Pattaya

http://www.datiziano.com/

http://www.thailandiatoscana.com/

I can confirm that their disches are really italian disches and the cook of "toscana" is italian (Luca)

The cook of "datiziano" in thai but it's good too!

Veterano
09-02-06, 01:36
Thank you for your report EM, it is very hard for me to find a decent place to eat in Pattaya

Fast Eddie 48
09-02-06, 07:43
Thank you for your report EM, it is very hard for me to find a decent place to eat in Pattaya


to veterano

You need to know where to go I think pattaya have many options when it come to eating out , I think it is one of the best place for sea food in SE ASIA
with many resturant in town .

fast eddie 48

Lovesnihon
09-02-06, 08:41
Hey Veterano,

The Vientiane restaurant, on Soi 1 and the Walking Street are out of this world. Great place to eat. And not too pricey.

LN

Lord Yorkshire
09-04-06, 00:45
Vets,

We have covered this aspect of Patts already, when you disagreed with me that there were any decent eateries.

There were many responses to the contrary and it was agreed that there are infact lots of quality places to visit.

Refer to previous threads if needs be, but lets not get dragged down in old debates.
In Pattaya there are plenty of good places to eat. End of.

Veterano
09-05-06, 00:42
LY ~ I merely complimented and thanked EM for posting some information that is actually of some use (in the form of 2 websites)

Always fun when some guy with 11 posts decides he wants to play moderator

Good luck, etc., Veterano

Lord Yorkshire
09-05-06, 06:51
Vets

11 posts or 1111, it makes no difference to the fact that Pattaya has a lot of great places to eat as per the general consensus of many of the forum regulars who responded to your views the last time round. Add the amount of posts together that all these guys can collectively boast, and does that therefore add any weight to the overall discussion? Of course not. Pattaya has a lot of great food options. End of.

I don't want to be a moderator, I do nothing in moderation.

Speed Touch
09-05-06, 10:23
Anyone been to this new bar hidden just behind walking street http://www.secretspattaya.com/
It's been on the pattaya channel...some upmarket bar/club - looks very swish

I'll give it a shot in a few days time.

Rambis Youth
09-05-06, 13:13
anyone been to this new bar hidden just behind walking street http://www.secretspattaya.com/
it's been on the pattaya channel...some upmarket bar/club - looks very swish

i'll give it a shot in a few days time.haven't been there but it got a write up in stickman's column this week.

Red Alert
09-05-06, 23:54
I support Lovesnihon. Vientiane on Soi 1 is a very good restaurant. Good eating. Very good service. I try to go 1-2 times per visit to Pattaya.

Fer Sure
09-06-06, 04:08
A quick note to thank you all (esp. Bill Miami). After much thought and too much RTFF. I'm off to Pattaya (and not bkk). Now my problem is finding a place to stay. Yes, I read that too. Not to worry. But I'm going in November and most of the 'don't worry' posts were written in June/July/Aug. Don't worry, I'll post my hotel questions on the other thread (and please let me know from over there on that thread).

Thank you again.

Fersure

Dolphin12
09-06-06, 08:45
Originally Posted by Poupard2000

It seems that ST prices are going up. Stunners are reluctant to fuck for 500 and ask most of the time 700/800.

Long time are following the same trend: 1500 bahts for stunners, but always 1000 for a basic girl.

Poupard2000,

A way to deal with the inflation of ST/LT prices is to get the issue straight prior to closing the deal. Personally, If I choose a particular girl (stunner) and I think she may be expecting that big pay out I get it clear before going to the room that this is the price take it or leave it. If she is cool and accommodating to my liking she may get a bit extra after the fact. Stick with 500 ST and 1000 LT. And like I said if you are really digging the paricular girl be a bit generous later on. That could be dinner, shopping, or whatever. Whats the now infamous bargirl quote "Up to you". ?

Red AlertNo stunner will jump in your bed for those prices!

Be prepared to get them for ST at the price that you are quoting for LT.

LT will be between 1500 and 2500, and that s ok!

Steen22
09-06-06, 19:59
No stunner will jump in your bed for those prices!

Be prepared to get them for ST at the price that you are quoting for LT.

LT will be between 1500 and 2500, and that s ok!No No 1500/2500 is absalutly not OK
500 ST
1000 LT
is OK
Best Regards

LukeSkyWanker
09-06-06, 21:46
Dolphin, stunners will jump into your bed for 500 baht if there are no idiots around, 1000 for long time is reasonable, they are fed, drinks bought for them, taken back to a nice clean bed and air con then they are fucked which is as pleasent for them as it is for you. Come to think of it maybe they should go halves on the meal. This is Pattaya supposedly one of the best places on earth for affordable pussy lets not talk prices up.



May the force be with you /\

Tiger 888
09-06-06, 22:04
I just read a nice definiton of a stunner that I want to share here:

A 'stunner' is any woman who comes back with a price that has a cost vs percieved value for money ratio that leaves me stunned.

MarcoStraight
09-07-06, 19:29
I heard there's a new place in walking street few steps after Lucifer runned by same managemet (French-German-Lebanese).It's a kind of open air disco full of girls (??!!)
Does anyone been there ?

Phantomtiger2
09-07-06, 21:33
No stunner will jump in your bed for those prices!

Be prepared to get them for ST at the price that you are quoting for LT.

LT will be between 1500 and 2500, and that s ok!


Dolphin, these prices are more typical of go-go places and some of them are now reluctant to do LT as they figure could earn more by ST.
For more reliable LT and cheaper prices--walk out of go-gos and sit next door at a regular beer bar.

PT

Dolphin12
09-08-06, 07:55
Dolphin, these prices are more typical of go-go places and some of them are now reluctant to do LT as they figure could earn more by ST.
For more reliable LT and cheaper prices--walk out of go-gos and sit next door at a regular beer bar.

PTYes, I agree: I ment go go bar prices, and most of them top girls don´t like LT, as 3 - 4 short times a night make a better revenue then 1 LT ! I don t like it either so you have to convince them of LT somehow. However, some of those gogo stunners are just irresistible so go for quality and I don t understand why some guys out there are feeding big fat white mama at home with loads of money and get stingy suddenly when they get to fun places.

Ruben X
09-08-06, 13:05
Went to Sabai Dee a few hours ago. This was my first soapie experience, so I was excitedly looking forward to it. Had read about the procedure and costs on the forum, so was not surprised seeing my first fishbowl. I was however humbled and awed.

Chose #210, paid 1600 baht, went up to the room, and had a nice bath. Then the soap, OK, that and the sliding was very nice. Very nice. On to the bed. Would I like to pay for any extras? What!!??

She wanted 1000 baht for a BJ. I complained saying I had already paid and anything else is just tip, and nothing near 1000. She sad, after some equivocating, just to give her what I want, hinting that it should not be small. We proceed to a BJ, covered. Yuck, I just want out, worrying about the scene to come. Well, I settle for a hand job and give her a smaller tip (but still too large, I know it should have been none).

Another girl may have shown me a great and stress-free time, but unfortunately I am turned off soapies.

RX

Firebird
09-08-06, 14:31
There are PAGES and PAGES of COMPLETE information in the forum. How about not being lazy and RTFF.
Do your "homework" before your trip and you will not have any problems



Greetings to all fellow mongers !
Thanks to every body who share their honest feedback

Friends im visting very first time to Bangkok i.e on 13th to 17 first i wil be landing at Ambassador Jomtien hotel pattaya and after two days visiting bangkok and satying at Amari Atrium hotel

So guys now i need your valuable feed backs on these two hotels (positive or negative) and also tell me what is this Alcazar show
Friends these 4 days i want enjoy and return to blore/india with valueable experience , i dont next time when i wil coming ...

i need all my senior's Help !

if any body visiting bangalore/mumbai im always there to help you :)

so wish me Good Luck

Thanks & Regards

Sss forU

Member #2041
09-08-06, 17:58
Ruben X - You definitely got a raw deal from that girl at Sabai Dee. You should have complained to the mgmt. In any case, thanks for posting her badge number, so we can all avoid her.

Oh, and DO try again somewhere else - a soapy the way it's supposed to be is a great experience.

Gus69
09-08-06, 23:52
Ambassador Jomtien is on a nice quiet beach but way out of town for action.
It will take about 30minutes each way and cost about 250 baht each way.

Flood800
09-09-06, 00:33
Greetings to all fellow mongers !
Thanks to every body who share their honest feedback

Friends im visting very first time to Bangkok i.e on 13th to 17 first i wil be landing at Ambassador Jomtien hotel pattaya and after two days visiting bangkok and satying at Amari Atrium hotel

So guys now i need your valuable feed backs on these two hotels (positive or negative) and also tell me what is this Alcazar show
Friends these 4 days i want enjoy and return to blore/india with valueable experience , i dont next time when i wil coming ...

i need all my senior's Help !

if any body visiting bangalore/mumbai im always there to help you :)

so wish me Good Luck

Thanks & Regards

Sss forU

Be prepared, Ambassador Jomtien hotel is BIG, a few years ago (about 15) it was THE largest hotel in the world, until MGM Grand in Las Vegas opened its doors. Good points, nice beach, loads of place to eat in the hotel’s own food center. Bad points: It is VERY far away from Walking Street, and the hotel is in need of a face-lift and internal renovation.

Alcazar show is worth going at least once by all visitors to Thailand, as it has some very nice and convincing lady-boys, they do the whole show, you can have photo taken with them afterwards, small tip expected. Most of these lady-boys are far prettier than the girls you will find in the surrounding bars.

Enjoy!

Run Mann
09-09-06, 05:17
Alcazar show is worth going at least once by all visitors to Thailand, as it has some very nice and convincing lady-boys, they the whole show, you can have photo taken with them afterwards. Most of these lady-boys are far prettier than the girls you will find in the surrounding bars.
Enjoy!

That is until you get up close for those photo ops and see the pounds of make-up they are wearing. Better off viewing the show from a far and keep that as a memory, seeing them up close is not the same as seeing them from afar

Sxer
09-09-06, 10:20
Went to Sabai Dee a few hours ago. This was my first soapie experience, so I was excitedly looking forward to it. Had read about the procedure and costs on the forum, so was not surprised seeing my first fishbowl. I was however humbled and awed.

Chose #210, paid 1600 baht, went up to the room, and had a nice bath. Then the soap, OK, that and the sliding was very nice. Very nice. On to the bed. Would I like to pay for any extras? What!!??

She wanted 1000 baht for a BJ. I complained saying I had already paid and anything else is just tip, and nothing near 1000. She sad, after some equivocating, just to give her what I want, hinting that it should not be small. We proceed to a BJ, covered. Yuck, I just want out, worrying about the scene to come. Well, I settle for a hand job and give her a smaller tip (but still too large, I know it should have been none).

Another girl may have shown me a great and stress-free time, but unfortunately I am turned off soapies.

RX

What a shame that this was your first experience. I have always found that if I pay the Bht 1600 then I get the full service, although I must admit that a BJ in these soapies is normally covered.
I have had a similar experience in Sabai Dee, but only after paying Bht 600, where the lady concerned expressed a wish for mega bahts for extra personal services, I bargained her down for what I thought was a reasonable amount but the moment had been spoiled and the service deteriorated from that moment.
I have gone off Sabai Dee for this reason and now use one of the others.

The Traveler
09-09-06, 10:33
Dolphin, stunners will jump into your bed for 500 baht if there are no idiots around, 1000 for long time is reasonable, they are fed, drinks bought for them, taken back to a nice clean bed and air con then they are fucked which is as pleasent for them as it is for you. Come to think of it maybe they should go halves on the meal. This is Pattaya supposedly one of the best places on earth for affordable pussy lets not talk prices up.

Luke,

food and drinks don't count, only cash and gold, so forget about it. Or do you think that also the room charge should be added to their bill ?
Furthermore we had already discussed that fucking a stranger you do not necessarily like or feel attracted to isn't pleasant for them at all.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=477548#post477548
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=477726#post477726

Duniawala
09-09-06, 11:52
Run mann,Flood 800,Gus69,firebird
Thanks for your valuable replays
But any body uses the service of Amari Atrium hotel bangkok ? pls give me some feedbacks

Thanks
Happy mongering

Cheers !

SssforU
You didn't get the message first time did you. Just because somebody took pity on you to reply your earlier post doesn't mean that you don't have to RTFF. The hotel has been discussed many times. so just RTFF.

BTW B'lore and mumbai has no sex scenes at all unless you want the pits or get ripped off.

Post a nice report from Pattaya and all will be forgiven.

Flood800
09-09-06, 14:15
That is until you get up close for those photo ops and see the pounds of make-up they are wearing. Better off viewing the show from a far and keep that as a memory, seeing them up close is not the same as seeing them from afar

I suppose the tip is not to look too closely, just enjoy what you see – and DON’T touch! Not if you are looking for a real girl!

Enjoy the LOS!

Tacabanda
09-09-06, 14:20
Friends im visting very first time to Bangkok i.e on 13th to 17 first i wil be landing at Ambassador Jomtien hotel pattaya and after two days visiting bangkok and satying at Amari Atrium hotel

So guys now i need your valuable feed backs on these two hotels (positive or negative) and also tell me what is this Alcazar showSss forUForget it. Too far from Pattaya! The monstruos hotel looks very poor outside.

There are a lot of far better places everywhere in and outside Pattaya.

Thai Me Up
09-09-06, 20:42
Just got back from Pattaya yesterday. Since, I just found the forum before I left and used a lot of its info, I thought the least I could do is tell you all about my trip and give you my recommendations.

This was my 3rd time in Pattaya, but this was my first attempt at correcting the mistakes from the first 2 times. Here are some tips I'd like to share.

1. Baht buses. Unless like paying 100baht a trip, just avoid speaking to the driving and just hop on the back. You should only have to pay 10baht, but if you tell the driver where you are going he will try to charge you more by saying he did not pick any one else. He will do this even if it is just a couple of blocks.

You might think 100baht is not much, but it adds up. I would average about 4 round trips a day.

2. Sandy Spring Hotel. Very Very strong recommendation. Only major problem I had with the place was the WiFi was weak. Staff was great. I selected the place based on location, soi 13, and a previous recommendation about the staff getting people out of sticking situations. That recommendation was absolutely correct.

I got a call from a buddy his first night in, and he tells me his girl is drunk and crazy and passed out. We call the front desk and they handled everything professionally. They even call house cleaning to come and clean the room immediately as the young lady had a few accidents. I will stay there again.

3. GoGo bars. Well, I'd have to say my overall favorite for the value was Silver Star on Soi 8. Consistant selection and not to pricey ST 1k, LT 2k, and the pricing got better as the ladies got friendlier. Also they have this cute little server named Gai. doesn't work, but is so damn cute. If you ever go there tell her Shawn said hi. Across the street from Silver Star is Dreams Beer Bar. Terrible selection, but the boss lady, Keela, is a true gem. Stop in and have a drink, and tell her I said hi. She is a great contact. I got some of the best info.

If you don't care about price then, I would recommend Peppermint, Happy, and Super Baby A Go Go. Depending on what your taste is. If you like light skinned Thai girls then Super Baby is the one to go to. A lot of Japanese men go there just for the light skinned women.

Living Dolls was ok, but inconsistant.

One thing that happened to me, that never happened before. Both my friend and I were propositioned by different girls from the gogo's. I mean these girls said they just wanted to get with us no charge. This was a first, and happened multiple times. We both were able to take advantage and the girls were true to their word. We also had repeat girls for significantly reduced prices.

4. Beer Bars. No specific one stands out. From what I have been told by the locals, your best and safest bet is to go to GoGo's as the ladies their are regularly tested and beer bar girls are not.

5. Clubs. I can't stand Tony's, but I sure did pick up some hot women there. The one's there seem to be about the quick ST so they can get the money and go. The best girl I picked up was at Lucifer's. Amazing! She was all over me from the moment I walked in. I would say 8.5 on looks, 9.5 on body, and a 10 on performance. By far the best TG I have ever been with. There is also a club called the Candy Shop that has great music and really hot women. My friend picked up a girl from here, that ended up buying everything for him that night and refused to take any money from him. I said he should have married her. Also, when things start closing, a lot of girls go to Marine in the Marine Hotel. It is open from 4-6AM. Great place to pick up the last minute club girl.

6. Non Thai girls...I would stay clear of all the Russian women. The are nasty looking and way overpriced. Now I did find this hot Iranian girl. I must say she was worth every penny, I mean baht. By far some of the best sex I have ever had in my entire life. Which is saying a lot fellas.

7. Food, there is a little restuarant just next to Sandy Springs Hotel on soi 13 going toward Beach Rd. Great fried sea bass. Also check out the Nags Head on 2nd Rd, just across from the Marriott, if I remember correctly. Great fried noodles.

8. Lady Boys! Be very careful here. Avoid walking alone at night if possible. I had read reports about lady boy attacks before I arrived. Didn't think much of it though. Then my friend was attacked by 4-5 of them. They got his wallet but he was able to tackle one and get it back. Still be careful. Additionally, some of them are a little harder to spot now. Some are doing a great job of not wearing as much make up and dressing up as much, which makes them look more like a regular girl. Can be a bit hard to spot. Always do a tittay test. If it is man cleavage or if their chest feels like an implant then it is a Lady boy. If you have doubts, then make sure you check before you invite them back. I saw a great many men walking around with them, and I am sure these guys thought they had some super fine thai lady on their arm.

9. Tipping in general: Try not to over tip. I would tip 20-40baht on general things. I'd drop 100baht if they truly went above and beyond the call of duty or if I had a big bar tab. The desk lady that saved my friend's bacon at the hotel got a 500baht tip, and believe me she earned it!

10. Vitamin V: Though I did not take any, my friend did and he said it worked as advertised. You can get it for 1000baht, but some places will try to ask for 1800baht. Negotiate as needed.

11. Always get the boss lady a drink. If you find a beer bar or gogo you like get chummy with the boss lady. They will usually keep the girls from hording you and will help you select the fun girls. I had boss ladies from last year remember who I was and gave me the royal treatment. Don't expect a discount, but expect better service. Especially when you want a fugly to stop rubbing on you, but you don't want to directly push her away. The boss lady will handle it. Remember, these ladies pay attention to how you treat the other ladies, so try not to be an a**, let the boss lady be one for you.

12. Massage Spa: Well I had about an 1-2 foot massage every day. Well worth it. I stayed clear of the oil massage. Thai massage was awesome. My favorite is the one right on the corner of beach before you enter walking street.

13. Closing time: A lot of the gogo girls will go party after the bar closes. If you get chummy with them, they will invite you to go party with them.

14. We all understand these girls want money and they will do you for it. But the quality of service, in my opinion is mainly based on how comfortable they are and how into you they are. They have a thing about men smelling clean, talking nice to them, and staying in nice places. I had girls getting turned on cause I had a nice room with an entrance to the pool. If you are going just to bang someone then it doesn't matter, but if you are looking for top service, in my experience these things matter. I enjoyed a big difference from the first 2 times I came to Pattaya.

Well, I hope you all get some good info out of this.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Poupard2000
09-09-06, 22:37
There is a typical sign. Many calls from previous girls.

They are calling back the patrons.... I miss you... I want to see u now.

They call me because they have no customers... No have money... Mai mi tang...


Low season now in Pattaya. Girls are starving. So if you want to be in Pattaya without too much competition, it is the RIGHT TIME... Betweeen christmas and the New year, it will be too late :)

Wonderer
09-10-06, 02:24
Thai Me Up,

Congratulations to your excellent report! I have been to Pattaya several times, but still could learn!

Next week, I am heading for the place again and will report what I find new.

Wonderer - who is looking forward to the next hunting round in Patty

Dinghy
09-10-06, 02:35
Forget it. Too far from Pattaya! The monstruos hotel looks very poor outside.

There are a lot of far better places everywhere in and outside Pattaya.


HUH?? North Road at the corner of BEACH? You mean "far from walking street" - it is IN Pattaya

(Not my kind of place though - too expensive)