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AsiaTraveler2
09-07-07, 08:03
AT2 et al

Yes there are....but I've also noticed the same in the Colombia and DR threads in the past...I guess I am partly to blame since I've decided to remain quiet and not post as much.

I will be in LOS this november, spending the bulk of my time in Pattaya, I will be contributing my first report shortly after.

Carrib,

Have fun in Pattaya. I personally prefer BKK, since I live in a tropical paradise and don't need the beach environment. I prefer the high end options of BKK.

Peace,
AT2

Hk Dog
09-07-07, 08:31
Carrib,

Have fun in Pattaya. I personally prefer BKK, since I live in a tropical paradise and don't need the beach environment. I prefer the high end options of BKK.

Peace,
AT2

I personally think in Pattaya the high end freelance crowd is superior by far to BKK. Many of the BKK girls make there base Pattaya since there is less chance to be found out by the family and friends.

AsiaTraveler2
09-07-07, 09:05
I personally think in Pattaya the high end freelance crowd is superior by far to BKK. Many of the BKK girls make there base Pattaya since there is less chance to be found out by the family and friends.

There are more than enough girls in either place, to make a man happy. That's all that matters.

AT2

Hk Dog
09-07-07, 09:37
There are more than enough girls in either place, to make a man happy. That's all that matters.

AT2


True, but I chuckled when you referenced Pattaya as a beach destination. I only saw the beach for the first time last year after a decade of wandering down its deep dark alleys!!

In the mid 90's Pattaya wasn't a pleasant place to the eye. The action was wild but the common site of old men and young boys I found disturbing. They cleaned up that part of the act after the Asian crisis but now I fear they are going too far in trying to make it a family destination.


Also I miss partying in Thailand until the morning light. Of course you can still do it but you have to really know the town well to know which venues aren't going to be shut by police after 2.

Gladiator
09-07-07, 23:39
Also I miss partying in Thailand until the morning light. Of course you can still do it but you have to really know the town well to know which venues aren't going to be shut by police after 2.

That’s right, HK Dog, I also miss Patts’ former glory as a party town. Nowadays there’s still some partying available, but just a shadow of what we used to have in the past.

The disco ‘Insomnia’ in Marine Plaza, for instance, goes on most nights till dawn, it’s really the place to be if you’re into Techno, that’s where the Marine crowd goes when it closes.

IMO it has just 2 drawbacks:

1. It’s smallish and it’s always packed after 4-5 am. Also, its limited size doesn’t allow you to enjoy to the full the sound waves of good, top volume techno music.

2. It’s usually cold, a coat is recommended, they really need to readjust that air-conditioning one of these days when they are sober.

If you still have some semen left at that time, there are always some options around to be 3F'ed.

BowHuntMopar
09-09-07, 15:46
Senior Members whose been to both places:

I plan to vacation this Christmas break for a week (SJO) or two (PB) at one of the two locations. Coming from St. Louis, MO, USA.

Cannot make up my mind. Been to (& love) Pattaya Beach last year but never been to SJO.

Could those of you that have visited both locations please provide some input either on this forum or by PM?

Thanks in advance!!

Lover Boy #2
09-10-07, 04:47
Senior Members whose been to both places:

I plan to vacation this Christmas break for a week (SJO) or two (PB) at one of the two locations. Coming from St. Louis, MO, USA.

Cannot make up my mind. Been to (& love) Pattaya Beach last year but never been to SJO.

Could those of you that have visited both locations please provide some input either on this forum or by PM?

Thanks in advance!!

Been to both...really no comparison. SJO is obviously a shorter voyage for you, but if you can sit for the 18-25 hours, the rewards of Pattaya will be many.

Rider7
09-10-07, 05:06
Been to both...really no comparison. SJO is obviously a shorter voyage for you, but if you can sit for the 18-25 hours, the rewards of Pattaya will be many.I had some great times in Costa Rica too! That was a few years back.I'm sure the girls are still around. Just have to find them. Find a veteran there for advice. We took two cuties and flew down to the beach on the Pacific side.
Tamarindo Beach and went to Quepos too.

If I only had a week or 2, I think I would choose San Jose, especially if you have never been. Takes too long to get to Pattaya with the jet lag and all.

Fast Eddie 48
09-11-07, 22:38
Senior Members whose been to both places:

I plan to vacation this Christmas break for a week (SJO) or two (PB) at one of the two locations. Coming from St. Louis, MO, USA.

Cannot make up my mind. Been to (& love) Pattaya Beach last year but never been to SJO.

Could those of you that have visited both locations please provide some input either on this forum or by PM?

Thanks in advance!!Bowhuntmopar,

I been to both country once in San Jose but been to Pattaya more than 10 time. If just for mongering Pattaya is much cheaper but Costa rica is a beautiful country but the woman is not as pretty and cost fro p4p for 3 time more than Pattaya.

If you already been to Thailand and like it you should return . for 2 week you should try another country in asia for one week like China, Philiipine or Indoneasia for mongering fun.

Fast eddie 48

RasSpewtin
09-13-07, 20:12
In what can only be described as the biggest infestation of Eastern European amphibian bovine yet to reach the shores of Siam, the city of Pattaya now lays in ruin after being trampled by herd upon herd of hairy female Euro-cattle.

This all started after remarkable technological advances such as eyeglasses were recently deployed in the eastern bloc. Men suddenly gained clarity of vision as never before, and realized that for all this time that had indeed been shagging cattle. Cattle in short skirts and high heels yes, but cattle in drag nonetheless. The search for a shag partner resembling a female then motivated them to search outside their bovine borders. Thus began a massive influx of eastern Euro-males into Thailand. Sadly, the Euro-cows of the herd soon caught the scent of their bulls, and followed them to the gaping-wounded shores of LOS.

Now these water buffalo-ettes are no ordinary creatures, no-siree Serge! These bovine biatches are able to blend into the façade of Pattaya by posing as boy-ladies (a genetically “natural” version of their flaming brothers), or by tying a rope around their necks and pulling out-of-gas trucks to the nearest gas station. These are truly cunning stunts, worthy of a moo or two!

Many local disco’s were at first tempted to bar them from the Hershey Highway known as Walking Street, until they experienced a small financial epiphany: They could save electric power and the capital cost of sub-woofers. The heavy hooves of the cattle-class on the dance floor were enough to create a thumping bass resonance like never before. And so the infestation took hold. Men who had long loved and lost in Thailand now wept openly, knowing that it was only a matter of time before the oft-petite Sisters of Siam would be comletely obscured by these monstrous creatures.

And so the Eastern-European girl-bovine shall remain in the go-go’s. They shall remain in the beer bars. They will even be allowed to eat at restaurant tables, but only because the cost of building an enclosed stall with moisture-absorbent hay is prohibitive. They will stand head and shoulders above all men, save those men that are still caught in the metamorphic Cro-Magnon time warp. And, in time, they will have munched on every exposed inch of exposed Thai lady-carpet. Until Pattaya Pussy is no more.

This has been RasSpewtin reporting.

Fun And Sun
09-14-07, 00:55
Fun and Sun,

Thank you for your Rio - Thailand comparison. I take it we have a good mongering crowd over there in Rio, but a much more sketchy environment. Again, good report. The fact that you've only been to each location once ads credence to your evaluations.

That being said, you mentioned that it isn't advisable not to negotiate with the girls upfront. That's interesting. In my early P4P days I always made sure to do that, however, now I rarely ever talk money. In fact, if a girl talks money, I find it to be a turn-off and tend to ditch them and find one (or more) that doesn't. And, generally I do not bend on my pricing.

Here's what I've been donating to the cause since 2001:
500 short-time bars
1000 long-time bars
1500 long-time two-girls or more, bars
700-1000 short-time go-gos
1500 long-time go-gos
1500-2000 two-girls or more, go-gos

For some reason, with few exceptions, this pricing structure seems to work for me, regardless of inflation and whether it's high or low season. Of course, an important ingredient is the type of girls that I like to hangout with. They tend to be the easy going, smilely-types. But, here's something really odd; not only do I not discuss money with these girls, I always just stick the money in their back pocket when they're not looking or drop it in their purse. Most of the time they don't even take it out to check the amount.

Until, I read your post this pricing system and procedure never seemed weird to me, but I suppose it may be a bit out of the ordinary. Do any of you guys work this way too?

J Ride

J Ride

I think you could probably take my points on the pricing system and procedure with a pinch of salt, not the gospel on the subject, only got one Thailand trip to date... (But two Rio trips now... :) (Reason for the delayed response, just got back.)

Usually I never actually negotiated a price, just said to the girl when leaving something along the lines of 1,000 LT which she would nod at and smile a bit shily. This was also what some of the more experienced guys told me to do, mainly to avoid a scene in the morning with a girl that might have got in her head that she is worth more than the standard fare.

Like mentioned on earlier posts, a few times I forgot to agree price since I was having too much fun playing pool, connect 4, just chatting or whatever and then just paying the standard fares worked in the morning without fuzz.

I guess the thing to say on agreeing/negotiating price up front is "up to you, mister"... :)

And on sketchy environment in Rio, much is made about this but not really that bad... Spotted it way in advance the six times street hoodlums were setting me up for a mugging this time... Had a whole of three meters between me and each of the two guys closing in on me when I managed to get into a taxi on one of the attempts... (Not making this up.)

Fun and Sun

Okinawa Larry
09-14-07, 10:19
Hi all,

I did some research here before my trip and want to pass on some info for new guys. Although I've traveled through this part of the world for many years, I had never been to Pattaya before.

Some mistakes I made:

Don't use the hotel taxi service. Or other transfer services offered from the go go bars. You never really know what kind of girl you're going to get and what kind of service she will be required to provide or willingly provide with a smile. Plus the fact they are way too expensive. There are many ways to get from the airport in Bangkok that are easy to use and much much cheaper.

Never tell the girls it is your first time in Pattaya. The tend to ask for more money. Making me loose interest and immediately move on to other opportunities. Look around and check out the opportunities. I had some great times with girls that greeted me with smiles.

Do visit sabriland (sp) it was a very good time and no boom boom tips required.

That Asshole
09-15-07, 05:14
Where can I buy Viagara in Pattaya?

Any help appreciated.

Thanks.

LittleBigMan
09-15-07, 09:28
You should have no problem getting the blue pill in Pattaya or Bangkok. Any drug store along Second Rd, you will not miss the signs! I have picked up pills for myself and friends at the drug store at Mike's Department Store on Beach Rd.

Daddy07
09-15-07, 13:11
Where can I buy Viagara in Pattaya?

Any help appreciated.

Thanks.

There is a small hole in the wall pharmacy on South Pattaya Rd near the entrance to Walking Street which was selling 4-packs of Kamagra for 300 baht in March when I was there.

Opebo
09-15-07, 16:41
Mr. Humble Turd, I miss your reports.

Mai Yao
09-15-07, 17:09
There is a small hole in the wall pharmacy on South Pattaya Rd near the entrance to Walking Street which was selling 4-packs of Kamagra for 300 baht in March when I was there.

Also TOPS PHARMACY, on Thapresset Rd (2nd rd. after it crosses So.Pattaya Rd. going toward Jomtien) close to soi Marine Plaza

There is also a great little pharmacy on Soi Buakow opposite the purple Sawasdee Hotel.

DRRonin
09-16-07, 11:02
Recently I spent a few days in Pattaya and wrote these e-mails to a friend who had been there a few months ago and is now back at home pining to be there again. With a few adjustments for names and numbers of the girls to protect the not so innocent, I thought it would be easy to file a report primarily using my daily e-mails to him.

Pre-trip e-mail

Need to get out of Bangkok for a few days and so will be headed down to Pattaya for a break from the urban density of this city and to smell however faint the sea air and of course to see some nipples. The go-go bars in Bangkok are so dull I practically nod off when I take my rare trips into one. The girls look even more bored than I do most of the time as they dance back and forth from one foot to the other like programmed robots on Quaaludes. The ones in Pattaya usually seem to have a little more energy going for them but mainly of course they have naked nipples and that really makes all the difference. Some of the go-go bars in Bangkok have them I know but the few I have seen in Soi Cowboy are frightful sights and I would gladly pay for them to cover up. The breasts in P. are on average a much finer sampling of young womanhood though it differs dramatically from bar to bar. In a good bar it is just a pleasure to sit there with a cool liquid in front of you to soak up the sights of the changing guard on the stage. But even I admit that after 5-6 bars of hundreds of nipples staring you in the face they all begin to blend together and you know it’s time to make your decision about which pair of nipples will accompany you home.

You are a much bigger fan of this place than I am. Four days seems to be my limit before it all gets to me and I yearn to be back in Bangkok. It sounds absurd but there are just too many women here – in every nook and cranny a woman is sitting with a welcome on her lips. It is sensory overload. Pattaya is the land of convenience – a 7-11 every 50 feet, a pharmacy every 40 feet and a girl every 5 feet. But it is largely a mirage to me – a town of 10,000 available women but only a few good lays; a town of so many women and so few good lookers. To some degree it strikes me as an elephant’s graveyard in which old hookers come to die. The beer bars have the occasional jewel hidden among the dross, but it always amazes me to see farangs seemingly enraptured by some women that they wouldn’t glance at back home. Of course, alcohol has a lot to do with this as many of these same farangs are seated on a bar stool by 11 a.m. and by 6 p.m. they would have sex with a tree stump – or at least try to if the flesh was able. This is an alcoholic’s paradise. Pattaya sure gets its share of odd looking farangs I must say – it often feels like the tide brought them in like seaweed and left them on the shore telling them to go forth to drink. The Thai authorities have been making an attempt to keep some of the foreign riffraff out of Thailand by making the visa restrictions a bit more difficult. Here are my suggestions to them. If a farang has more tattoos than teeth keep them out. If you give them a survey on why they are coming to Thailand and they mark cheap beer above cheap sex, keep them out. If they name Pattaya as the capital of Thailand, keep them out.

Anyway, I look forward to visiting some of our favorite go-go bars and walking up and down Beach Road a few times a day. I need to lose a few pounds as I seem to have a limpet mine stuck to my stomach that resists my morning swim and any bribes I offer it to go away. Maybe another suggestion to the authorities would be when a man can no longer see his penis in the shower, keep them out – but that may soon be me! I am just not sure if it is my stomach getting bigger or my penis getting smaller with age. I’ll let you know how P. goes.

Day 1

On the way down I took the van for a change to save me 800 baht and met a grade A monger on the way, name of J. – we seemed to recognize each other immediately and instinctively and were soon in conversation about the places we had been, trading info on quality and costs. It turns out he had recently been to Chang Ping as well and we both extolled its virtues and the stunning women available there. This was his first time in Pattaya though and I promised to show him around tonight – not that I really know this place that well. I checked into the Flipper (on Soi 7) – a small clean room but facing the street for 880 baht. The sweet girl with braces was on duty at the reception counter.

Later in the night I took this fellow J. to 4 go-go bars. We began with Super Babies to look for number xx (my friend had told me that if I went with this girl he would pay for it since he had tried without success on his last trip much to his frustration). Yup – she is indeed very nice – compact and curvy just like I like them - and I may take you up on your offer - perfect little shape but it was early in the evening and I wanted to hit a few other go-go’s and at any rate five minutes after we arrived she got taken out. Never was able to make eye contact with her even though she was 2 feet away. And there were actually 3 others in there that I liked more. It turns out that J. and I have nearly the exact same taste in women. The place had a decent amount of lookers and though not quite up to what it was when we hit it a year or so ago there really wasn’t a bad one in the house. Of course this is one of the bars frequented primarily by the Japanese as is its cousin across the street. All together there were perhaps 25-30 girls. That makes 50-60 nipples of course of all sizes and shapes, some winking at you, some longing for you as they seem to be reaching out to touch, some very aloof – but all of them looking fine to my eye.

Next on to Coyote's - yikes - hopefully it was just a bad night but it was nearly bare - only about 12 girls (Coyote’s is one of my favorite places in P. – usually really quality girls and never a lot of customers because it is off Walking St – have had great experiences with any girl I ever took out from there – esp. two sisters about a year ago). There were none of those special shows they put on because they just didn't have enough women - no one that I knew from the past - didn't see that girl on the cover of After Dark I was hoping to get - but there was one girl there - just tiny that both of us really wanted to do - but again it was early and J. had decided not to do anything tonight - he is basically a once in every 2 days kind of guy (until Pattaya it turned out. The town inspired him more than me). He wanted to see Boesch which he had read about and so that was next - the usual - I know you like this place but I have yet to see a girl that I really find attractive there. We sat at a small table near the sauna and watched a 3 girl nude licking act – J. was totally into it especially when one of them put her head on his lap while being serviced. The waitress next to him was giving a running account of his growing erection. I get bored with that stuff after 3 minutes though - especially as none of the girls doing it were ones I would go with - otherwise it would probably be more interesting to me.

We spent a while there and came out to a rainstorm which gave me an excuse to go into Catz (a small cozy bar with usually no more than 15 girls but often some real good ones) to see if my sweetie P. was there - boom - she was all over me within a minute - hadn't really planned on taking her but J. suddenly sees something he likes and changes his mind and bar fines her in a minute - there were about 7 lookers in the place and the crazy girl is still there though a bit toned down - so I thought what the hell - and bar fined her - but just her this time as I really wanted to be alone with her and see how it went without any distractions (had been with her 3 times previously but always with another girl – her breasts are billowy large and wonderfully visual with big dark nipples beckoning you – if they are surgically enhanced I tip my hat to the doctor because they are wonderfully soft and natural to the feel – I am not a big breast guy in general but these just get under my skin in a good way). It was great - she is really giving - wonderful kisser - I was having trouble cumming though and she stuck with me for 40 minutes till I finally gave up the ghost. Not sure why I couldn't cum as it felt great being in her. I tried to talk her into a topless photo and even offered her 1000 baht for it - but no go – God, I just love her breasts. I told her my friend - meaning you - had tried to take her out but she wouldn't go - she tells me she was waiting just for me!

Since I didn't cum I went out wandering - stopped at McD's for some nourishment if you can call it that and almost got into a fight with some Brit wanker who was upset that I got my McNuggets before he did - the usual tattooed chip on the shoulder asshole in Pattaya - but fortunately for me his friend cooled him down. So many of these guys seem to be carrying around so much anger all balled up inside. Then went to Marine Disco - last year there were a few good looking girls there - not a lot but some - this time zero - really dead till 3am but the girls looked all to be late 20's to 40's. I finally decide around 4 a.m. that sleep wasn’t such a bad option. When I use to come here in the 90’s, Marine Disco was amazing – just packed with stunning freelancers – but now there are too many disco’s in P. and the talent is spread out and I haven’t had much luck in the other discos – Tony’s is so dark I could end up with a ladyboy, others are so crowded I can’t move – but Marine just seems on the verge of decay. Of course it is pretty slow everywhere – the slow season they say – and most of the beer bars are deserted of white faces, Walking Street seems to have more families walking down them than sex tourists and the go-go bars we visited had only a splattering of guys in them. Good for us of course so this is not a complaint.

Day 2

So around 5 pm I head over to Cats (beer bar on Central) to see if F. (another girl my friend recommended) is around – but since I was meeting J. at 7 p.m. I just wanted to chat a bit and perhaps set something up for the next day - only 2 girls there - no customers. I think one of them was F. - very small - but big dark sunglasses on and the entire time I am there she and two Thai male motorcycle friends are hunched over her cell phone looking at videos. She never looked up ever – so I drank my beer and left. Walked by Mickey Mouse’s (another beer bar on a street connecting Soi 7 and Central) and lo and behold the "innocent" girl was back - the only thing in that place under 40 I swear - but she doesn't have a clue who I am – completely forgot me and I didn’t remind her (had a great one time experience with her last year – looked so innocent until we got into my room and then bang).

Later met up with J. and had dinner a few blocks before Walking at a New Orleans restaurant - all right but more expensive than I like - the street also has a few go-go bars - some for men though so be careful! But we looked into a couple for women and saw nothing we liked plus the women had tops on. Next on to Super Girl - ok but nowhere near as good as Super Babies - maybe 2-3 lookers and the rest just kind of average. J. paid one of the girls in the sauna 100 baht to rub her breasts for a while - she had quite nice ones. Was then going to take him to Heavens Above but it looked to have closed down - hit 2 more in Soi Diamond - Naughty Girls and another - but in both the girls had their tops on so we left – we both agree that without nipples there really isn’t any point. Next we decided to hit Peppermints - never been before but recalled guys mentioning it - wow - what a frantic scene - totally full of Thai guys for some reason - maybe 40 of them but around 80 guys in total and probably 60 girls - how come you never brought me here? A bunch of different stages - some girls just topless, others topless and bottomless - some quite good looking. We got seated right below the caged ones at the very back - 5 girls all nude behind bars - so we spent about 40 minutes looking up at their vagina's. The girls were being taken out rapidly but J. didn't really see anything he liked and I was thinking about going back to Coyote’s to see if that cutie was around. Instead though we ended up at Super Babies since so far it had by far the best quality girls. It was past 11 p.m. by now and I expected most of them to be gone but all the hotties were still there. When you get back keep an eye out for # 12 - we both think she is knock down gorgeous with a really interesting Betty Boop mouth - but again could get zero eye contact from her and J. was even trying to talk to her while she danced with no response. Finally this girl that I remember from last year with this totally engaging laugh and smile catches his eye and he locks her in and takes off (he was to tell me the next day that she had a long list of don’ts). I stayed for a minute just to finish my drink and was going to go to Coyote’s when I look up and guess who is dancing in front of me. Your number xx. And amazingly she is smiling at me. It was definitely a slow night if she had given up on the Japanese. The mamasan comes over and asks me why I haven't taken a girl like my friend did - I point to # xx - she nods back - we are gone a few minutes later.

Not the best - kind of average sex really - has a tongue stud - won't kiss - but she speaks decent English and is really pretty nice over all. Solid bj - good long screw. She is just gorgeous - 20 years old and I spent a long time just looking for a flaw - couldn't find one - perfect body. She is suppose to come back at 1 p.m. tomorrow - am hoping I can loosen her up a bit on the kissing front. Took a couple picts with clothes on but she has too much make-up on - will try and get more tomorrow looking a bit more natural. So are you paying only for the first time I go with her or anytime I go with her?

Day 3

I've got to slow down - have so over done my budget on this trip that it’s silly.

So # xx shows up - her name is K. by the way - about 30 minutes late looking as cute as a button - took a couple more picts which I will send you once back in BK. I keep wondering though if you are getting #xx mixed up with #12 who has this remarkably kissy mouth and also a perfect body. Any way rather than getting friskier this time, K. was actually much more business like - very much in a hurry to get everything over with - not a terrible experience since I did cum but she had no patience to just take it slow and talk a bit - let me explore her perfect body - right to the bj - had to coax her a few times to continue - and then boom boom and then she was practically out the door with my money before I had a chance to say good bye. Definitely this will be my last time with her.

Spent the afternoon swimming at the pool, lunched at KFC, breezed by Mickey Mouse (stopped for a quick drink) and Cats while going to meet my friend for dinner. No sign of F. at Cats but MM had both the "innocent" one and surprisingly another young cutie all decked out in curls and braces with a big shy smile for me. Innocent girl – W. is her name btw - is no longer playing the innocent virgin any more - she is out front constantly dancing away in a really sexually turn on manner showing her lean taut stomach but like too many of these girls thinks a mound of rouge on her cheeks makes them more attractive - but she is looking really fit and I realized while watching her that physically and a little bit facially she reminds me of the Chinese girl I was interested in back home. She still had no memory of me. I took my usual walk along Beach Road - the weather is lovely – and note all the worn out women along the way. These are a strange mix – almost all past their prime – some though that are desperately trying to keep the illusion of youth with lots of make up and short dresses, others who seem to come to picnic and look to me like the older Filipina maids in Hong Kong on their Sundays.

Met up with J. and we decided to expand his Pattaye horizons by taking him on a tour of Soi 6 - not that I have ever done anything but walk by it - oh ate at a restaurant on the other side of Central called Zeppelin which wasn't bad. We walk up and down Soi 6 – a bunch of small bars in which the girls hang outside and try to tempt you in. Most places had from 5-10 girls. We are getting the usual assortment of come ons - "I take good care of you darling", "I smoke you good honey" as well as a few quick cock rub downs on the street. Hardly, any one else about. We do see a splattering of decent looking girls among the less than wholesome girls - your TG place definitely had the best selection but I had seen a young looking girl earlier at a place called LOVE and so we ended up back there. J. spotted a real cutie next to her and I cursed him for being quicker on his feet than me - she was a real doll while mine looked less interesting up close and with her mouth open she displayed a gangly assortment of crooked teeth and tongue stud. We go inside - was surprised to see how nice it was - had expected something really sleazy and dark but it was a very clean place with comfy couches laid all about. Sat down, had a drink, the two girls cuddled with us and rubbed - I continued to look at his girl and convinced her to let me see her breasts - we were the only 2 guys in the place - very nice - mine were ok too but the other girl had a really sweet lovely face - beautiful fresh complexion. We decide to go upstairs - 500 for the girl, 350 for the air conditioned room - but then mine springs a surprise on me that she can only do bj with condom because her stud is causing irritation - I tell her no and I will just wait for my friend - she changes her mind, I change mine. A mistake - kind of crummy rooms – a big cockroach scurried along the floor - one shower for everyone and J. was still in there with his girl - I had told her I only wanted smoke - no boom boom - but her bj was tepid, only going down about a 1/16 of an inch and complaining that it was hurting her mouth - I thought about boom boom but saw a wart down there and decided to cut my losses short by ending this whole thing. Still paid her the 500 though. My friend raved about the cutie - damn him!

We think about going to the go-go bars but instead stop at Betty Boop's, a go-go bar with about 10 dancers – no nudity - a couple not bad, the others should be charged with a crime for wearing bikini apparel. We sit - I really wanted to get going but a girl sits next to me and gives me a neck massage that felt great - so so looking but nice - and suddenly her hand snakes up my shorts and plays a very good game of pool with my balls and penis – corner shot – off the side - felt great as my dick was feeling very shortchanged from the last stop and was asking for some restitution. It needed a good bj and so the next thing I know we are going up the stairs - this place was 1000 baht for everything. Again I told her I just wanted a bj - she said she would do her best - turned out not to have a great body but we turned down the lights and I just focused on her face going down on me - nice face, very nice bj - but I suddenly was having this image of the other curly haired girl at Mickey Mouse going down on me - very strange - so I decide to hold off from cumming which I was very close to and to see if I could hook up with this other girl.

My friend also took a girl up and had just finished up as well and we decided to part ways - this being about midnight by now as he is staying at a hotel way up past Walking St. So I got off the jitney at Central and walked by Cats - no sign of F. and stopped off at MM where both the cuties were still hanging out - both dancing out front by now and singing karaoke. Hang out for a bit with a beer and this girl – name of N. - eyes me up and in sign language asks if I want to go with her - in sign language I say hell yes. Turns out her English consists of "ya ya ya" and "I like you" and for a bit I was worried she might be retarded but no - just no English even though she is carrying around this huge Thai-English study book with all these pages earmarked. I ask the mamasan if “innocent girl” can also come with us but she tells me this fellow already has dibs on her - so it’s just the two of us. I had low expectations with this girl - she looked inexperienced - was 20 yrs old - and just kept giving me these shy smiles and saying "I like you". And I was sure she would use the braces as a reason to not kiss or bj but that image of her going down on me while being blown by the girl at Betty Boop’s kept running through my head - just this mass of curls and a sweet face. But back in the room she turns into a voracious tigress - kissing me like mad all over - turns out to have had a baby though so her body was a bit off - not terrible but not what I was hoping for - but then gave an amazing bj and a really giving screw where she used her vagina muscles to really squeeze my dick - it felt so good. A topnotch performer and I may still try to get her and “innocent girl” together but not sure I have the time. Btw - 300 bar fine, 700 for the girl.

So 4 bjs today though one of them only likely counts as a 1/3 a bj and much too much money pouring out of a hole in my pocket - hope to take it very easy tomorrow. It's hard sleeping here as my room faces the street and it has gotten really noisy at night. Last night I think either a rugby or soccer game must have been on TV because there was a roar every five minutes or so till into the wee wee hours.

Day 4

Back in BK. On my final day I basically rested. Hit 5-6 go-go bars with J. - none that appealed to me other than the last one Happy Go-go where J. took out a girl - a bunch of the go-go’s had girls who had their tops on which makes no sense to me - hit your What's Up place and a couple others on that street but no go for us. Happy is pretty good - topless- a few stunners - a lot of girls - but I just had no pop left. Had planned on staying another day or even 2 but after another bad night of sleeping due to the street noise I just had to get back to BK. I still haven't broken the Pattaya code - so many women but at least for me so few good lays.

FoxesHunter
09-16-07, 11:08
Hi, I know some interesting countries for mongering but I don't know
Jakarta and Pattaya.
If you have gone to both Jakarta and Pattaya, can you tell me about
quality and quantity, price for ST and LT and above all inclination of the girls.
That is ... are hotter and more passion for fuck the girls of Jakarta or Pattaya?
I think Pattaya is a very small town and everything is near. Is it true?
thanks for your reply.

Jimmy Red Cab
09-16-07, 11:18
I think Pattaya is a very small town and everything is near. Is it true?
thanks for your reply.

No my friend, Pattaya is not small, it would take a long time to walk from one end to the other.
It is cheap and easy to get around, Beach Road and Second Road are one way and baht buses go round and round, just hop on and hop off --cost 10 baht farang, 5 baht Thai.

Map
http://www.pattayarealestate.biz/pattaya_city_map.php

NicFrenchy
09-17-07, 04:43
was in pattaya this weekend, my first time there since i am in thailand.

i was planning on staying 3 days but ended up just spending half of that. the only thing i can say is that i was not very impressed by the ladies (although there were a few very cute ones), however, the horrifying sights were not on the ladies side, you should have seen some of the farangs floating around the p4p streets of pattaya! they made khao san road backpackers look like hi-class specimens. i was at a loss for words, how can some people let themselves be like that? a farang sitting across from me stank so badly you could smell his stench all the way to bangkok.

managed to barfine a lady and visit [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) (full report to come soon).

bottom line: i don't think i will ever go to pattaya again.

Daddy07
09-17-07, 13:53
Was in Pattaya this weekend, ... I was not very impressed by the Ladies (although there were a few very cute ones),... you should have seen some of the Farangs floating around the P4P streets of Pattaya! they made Khao San road Backpackers look like Hi-Class specimens. I was at a loss for words, how can some people let themselves be like that? A farang sitting across from me stank so badly you could smell his Stench all the way to Bangkok...

Bottom line: I don't think I will ever go to Pattaya again.

Hummm ... I really enjoy watching people, and think all that you describe is part of the special charm of the place. :) Yes there are lots of skanks and dregs there, but there is also an abundance of pretty girls to pick from if you take the time to search. I find the contrast quite entertaining. Oh, yeah, and the prices are a lot less there too! All things considered, I like it better than Bangkok, but I've yet to visit other parts of LOS so I'll suspend my final judgment for a while.

Regards,
Daddy

Wonderer
09-17-07, 20:32
DRRonin,

Congratulation! Absolutely excellent report about Pattaya! I have been to this place at least 6 or 7 times. So, what you describe is exactly what I experienced. Very authentic, and with a lot of good sense of humor. I had a lot to laugh.

Just my five cents about Super Baby. I visit the place every time when I am Pattaya on several occasions. I also know some of the staff there, but I have never taken out any of the girls. Many of them are really pretty and stunners. But it is extremely difficult to make eye contact with most of them. I have noticed (as well) that there are a lot of Asian (mostly Japanese) customers. They just tell the staff "I want # xx", and then the staff calls the girl from stage. Two minutes later the Japanese leaves with his "catch". I am sure he is only interested in the "bum bum" and then leaves her again - paying however a bigger amount than most Westerners. Therefore, I am not really interested in taking any girl from this place. Most other places are better for take-out.

Thanks again for your great report. Perhaps I will head for Pattaya again in the coming few months, and then I will go through your report again and enjoy being in the places you also described.

Wonderer

RasSpewtin
09-18-07, 03:24
Hi, I'd like if it is easy to get ass by girls in Pattaya. Have I to pay more or is it impossible?
I thank you!

Well Porturu, your question just couldn't come at a better time. As it turns out, I am in the Bangkok airport right now, on my way back from a one-week stay in Pattaya.

Sadly, I regret to inform you that there are no girls left in Pattaya as of yesterday. When they heard that I was leaving town, they all packed up their bags in despair and moved to Nepal. Here they will start up their own go-go version of a buddhist mountain monastary. They will need to take an oath of celibacy, so you just cast asisde that sly notion of taking a trek up the mountain for a little alpine nookie!

As to your question of needing to pay more, it is virtually irrelevant due to a complete lack of supply. Only a few emaciated dogs remain, if that is to your liking.

Raz

P.S. Yours was a damn good post, though. One of the best I have ever seen. And I mean EVER.

Todwinch
09-18-07, 10:44
Hello. Heading to Pattaya soon (early October probably), and would like to meet fellow mongers for a beer. Anyone be around then?

As well as enjoying some of the regular pleasures, I would like to experiment with new ones :-)

Like lady sharing. A few guys, many women, much beer and a camera. Anyone game for this? Face shots optional & you get full veto on the photos. I don't care what the guys look like, as long as women are tasty!

Or is it possible to pay a Thai guy to service a bar girl for photos? How would I find one?

I would like to get some photos of a lady boy giving it to a woman. How do I find a lady boy with fully functional equipment? How do I find a lady willing to do it?

Gwailo
09-18-07, 15:43
Was in Pattaya this weekend, my first time there since I am in Thailand.

I was planning on staying 3 days but ended up just spending half of that. The only thing I can say is that I was not very impressed by the Ladies (although there were a few very cute ones), however, the horrifying sights were not on the ladies side, you should have seen some of the Farangs floating around the P4P streets of Pattaya! they made Khao San road Backpackers look like Hi-Class specimens. I was at a loss for words, how can some people let themselves be like that? A farang sitting across from me stank so badly you could smell his Stench all the way to Bangkok.



No wonder the girls in Pattaya tell me I'm 'handsum man'.

Brymor
09-18-07, 18:00
I would like to get some photos of a lady boy giving it to a woman. How do I find a lady boy with fully functional equipment? How do I find a lady willing to do it?


Think you may need to try a different web site. Unless I am mistaken, if you find lady boys remotely interesting then you are in the wrong place completely.

Dacian
09-19-07, 09:51
So is that why theres no girls left here. Dam, I wandered walking street till 3am last night looking for some ass and nothing but an old mumusun, three ladyboys and that dog you were talking about (and it ran away 'because it was too sore for Boom Boom). Please come back so the girls will come back, Pattay's economy can't manage.

And to Poturu. Pattaya is ass.

Don't worry it will find you.

Red Ariel
09-20-07, 06:58
My boss wants to stay at the Marriott. Are they guest friendly? Will a be charged for bringing girl to room?

Thank you.

ThaiLearner
09-20-07, 21:05
Hello. Heading to Pattaya soon (early October probably), and would like to meet fellow mongers for a beer. Anyone be around then?

As well as enjoying some of the regular pleasures, I would like to experiment with new ones :-)

Like lady sharing. A few guys, many women, much beer and a camera. Anyone game for this? Face shots optional & you get full veto on the photos. I don't care what the guys look like, as long as women are tasty!

Or is it possible to pay a Thai guy to service a bar girl for photos? How would I find one?

I would like to get some photos of a lady boy giving it to a woman. How do I find a lady boy with fully functional equipment? How do I find a lady willing to do it?

I have tried to private message you but I am unable too can you join.?

MartinNL
09-20-07, 22:33
My boss wants to stay at the Marriott. Are they guest friendly? Will a be charged for bringing girl to room?

Thank you.No problem to bring guests in, even > 1 is not an issue at all. Just behave and have fun. MartinNL

Bill Miami
09-21-07, 02:34
I live in Pattaya and I haven’t posted in a while, so I decide to give out some real inside information that only an experienced vet could obtain. As everybody knows getting supper hot looking girls in Pattaya is easy and gets boring after a while. But, when you want a supper hot sophisticated Thai girl that dresses and acts like a real lady that is not a bar girl where do you go? That is the question, and I will give you the answer.

I really should charge for this information, but here it is for free. Bangkok Pattaya Hospital has it all, they have ten foxes dressed up for every patient they receive and they are sitting around all day usually with nothing to do. I think the hospitals hiring policy is, if you’re over 30 and ugly you are not hired or fired. They even have five girls waiting for you at the entrance just to say hello. If you ask any of them where anything is they drop everything and walk you to the other side of the hospital to show you the department you are looking for, which is a great time to start up a conversation and ask for a date.

You can just walk around the hospital for hours, it is a big place and there are so many women working there you are walking past them constantly. Just wait for one to smile at you and then ask some stupid question and they will be more then glad to answer and you have just created another date opportunity. You really want to show up around 11 AM and stick around until 1 PM, to make sure you hit all their lunch breaks in the cafeteria. If you play your cards right you can get three different shifts of nurses, doctors, pharmacist, etc. coming in for lunch, with something like a ten to one ratio of girls working there to guys. Just pick out the hottest group you see and ask if you can sit down, if you dress nice and look presentable they will be glad to have you sit with them. And they will be asking you questions and start joking with you before you even sit down.

I am revealing this method because I can no longer utilize it due to health factors. If I keep doing it I won’t have any health left. Since I have dumped like 10 nurses in the past few months and the 2 nurses and 1 doctor I am seeing now are really getting tried of seeing me at the hospital faking like something is wrong trying to pick up more women.

Next inside tip, if you like college girls dressed up in their school uniforms where you go to meet them? Tesco-Lotus food count in Jomtien. There is a college right next door and they all come to the food court during their lunch break. And some of these girls are really bad, all their friends and sisters have told them what it is like to have sex with a foreigner and they just can’t wait to give it a try themselves. It is not hard to spot the ones looking for foreign boy friends; they just start staring at you and smiling. But, unlike the hospital these girls don’t usually speak very good English, so you need a few hand signals and a little Thai to make this successful.

Make sure if you’re going to use the above techniques to buy yourself a mobile phone when you get here because after a few hours at the hospital it is almost impossible not to have 10 phone numbers or so. You can buy a used phone and get a number for less than $50 US at Dot Com and sell it back before you leave. Most all Thai girls have mobile phones and they love using them and can wait to get a call from there new boy friend from the UK, Australia, Europe or where ever

Fast Eddie 48
09-21-07, 04:19
If you know both, can you tell me in wich town is easier to get a girl friend experience with a semi-pro? Is it eaier in Pattaya or Jakarta?
Is it cheaper Pattaya or Jakarta for fucking?

Thanks, FoxTo Poturu,

I think the best GFE experience in Asia is the Fillippines and China is second , I think Pattaya is one of the cheapest place in asia been there many time but only been to Jakarta once it can be as expensive as Bangkok.

You can meet girl easy in Manila all over the city and you can just walk up to a girl at mall and invite them for Lunch with no problems if make sure you let them know up front that you want short time fun not marriage.

Fast eddie 48

Gonzofiend
09-21-07, 04:36
My boss wants to stay at the Marriott. Are they guest friendly? Will a be charged for bringing girl to room?

Thank you.Hey Red,

If you search through the Thailand Forum, you will find a thread called "Pattaya Hotels" which may be of some use to you. I searched the term "Marriott" and got a lot of hits. I'll be nice and say that the Marriott is considered girl-friendly (no guest surcharge) and is apparently right in the heart of the action. While many say it is not good value for the money, since it seems that you will not be paying that is of less use to you. Although, I would search the thread and perhaps you can find an equal quality Hotel for less money, thereby saving your boss a few dollars while getting a better room. Bosses like saving money, you know.

Also, if you can, use all of the forum tools before asking any questions. Especially read the Thailand FAQ's at the top of the Thailand thread. Not trying to be a jerk about this, but yours was a very, very basic question that is easily answered by searching the Forum. I'm trying to save you from the very shrill cries of "RTFF! " (Read The F**king Forum) that will usually result from a question like this. Or worse yet having no one answer you or even explain how to find the answer. No offense intended and I hope that you have a great time in the LOS!

Gonzofiend

El Greco
09-21-07, 06:08
Great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can we call you Bill Pattaya now? LOL

Thanks mate. Very-very well done.

El Greco

Member #3443
09-21-07, 07:12
[quote/Originally Posted by Red Ariel
My boss wants to stay at the Marriott. Are they guest friendly? Will a be charged for bringing girl to room/end quote]

Mariott is very girl friendly and will not charge extra. I have stayed there many times over the past 6 1/2 years. It is one of the best hotels to stay at. The restaurants in the hotel have fantastic foood. If you get Executive Floor priveleges, the 16th floor is a great place for a couple of hours of free drinks and free finger food in the early evening. And the girls that work the Executive Room are some of the prettiest and nicest girls to meet, though extremely hard to date. They are considered to have good jobs in Thailand.

Daddy07
09-21-07, 14:16
I live in Pattaya and I haven’t posted in a while, so I decide to give out some real inside information that only an experienced vet could obtain. As everybody knows getting supper hot looking girls in Pattaya is easy and gets boring after a while. But, when you want a supper hot sophisticated Thai girl that dresses and acts like a real lady that is not a bar girl where do you go? That is the question, and I will give you the answer.


Thank you, thank you, thank you, from the bottom of my ball sack, Bill.

What a lovely idea! I'm moving to Pattaya myself in just 3 more weeks and plan to try out your methods. I'm a dental patient at Bangkok Pattaya Hospital and can confirm what you say about all the hot chicks working there. I thought they were off limits to guys like me but now you have me thinking that they are worth a try. Do you think some of them might go for older well dressed decent looking falangs?

Regards,
Daddy

Opebo
09-22-07, 18:04
a recent visit confirmed that beach road remains the same. there are girls to be had, and even a few cute ones, but the presure continues from the authorities. i had begun to hope that as the lackadaisical military government continued these bourgeois actions would lessen, but no such luck. girls confirmed that the 'testing of [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)' was continuing, and was the main reason that many familiar faces are away in prison.

i also tried the services of [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900). it was ok, but the price has apparently increasted to 700 baht, which is way too much. that's $20, which is about the price of a blow job back home.

though they don't yet have porn movies playing in the rooms upstairs (seems a silly oversight), they have included small couches and a strategically placed mirror. personally i always disliked those dentist/barber chair setups - they're still there, but you can choose the settee. lastly my girl wouldn't take the load in her mouth, so i had to blow it on her face.

Pute Nut
09-22-07, 18:16
Lastly my girl wouldn't take the load in her mouth, so I had to blow it on her face.

The concept of "Costumer Service" seems to be on a slippery slope all over Asia. "Customer is king" being replaced by.. "Customer is wanking"..

Fawn The Guyver
09-22-07, 18:21
After about 2 years I´m finaly back in Pattaya and it have change a lot, this is new and this was my firstlook. On my first days I have try to get some nice girls but nothing realy good, I have think, ok it is low season so keep looking, but it is not that I went up to Soi 7 lots of old girls only few good looking after few drinks, and a lot of Katoys ( belive me usualy I can see them very quick but this time I was not sure until he/she/it have say something longer then 3 words ). I went to Soi 8 many of my Bars which had many girls usualy 15-30 have now only 3-10 siting there. I have ask few Mamasans what the problem is, first low season some girls went home, but then what she told me I have get confirmed by few others bar mamasans and Agogo girls, is that right now many new Agogo bars open where never was one like, one close to the BEST FRIEND BAR ( it is there where thay have Thai boxing ) these bars send scouts outside to recrute good girls from bars to promise them when they work in Agogo to get 9000 Bath and more. Also this is know, that they send now scouts outside to recrute girls from villages but never so many like now. Also the Police have close many Agogo bars, but not the Police from Pattaya, it was the Bangkok Police which raid bars, this why you cant find a Agogo with topless girls. I have talked with a girl from Classroom she was one who have worked in a bar and was scouted, in the bar she took 1000LT now she want ST 2000, I have asked if she not think that 2000 for ST is a bit to high, and she sad " SOOON SEXY LADYS WILL TAKE ONLY, BECAUSE ANNOT FIND IN BAR " I asked she how many man she had who was willing to pay 2000 ST she say many, and I have ask Japanese and she say yes thay give good money and not have to make much.
Right now what I found out was that the last good girls you only see when you go to the Walking Street but when you not belive me look for some thai man who talk to girls and give them some paper to read, when you look closely you will see the name of the Agogo.

Right now I´m trying a tip from a friend to pickup girls from the Royal Garden,
he told me to sit down and wait for 5-30min and look girls and smile them and wait one come to you and sit down near you, he told me this are good one and cheep LT 300-500.

I stay here not for long next stop is Bangkok lets see what have changed there if it is the same like now Pattaya.

Have Fun


Edit:

Just got back from the Air Con Bar from Classroom I took again the same girl like yesterday ( mean we talked in the bar ) after she finaly got that I want have a nice talk and after 3 Lady drinks ( 110 B for the drink the girl gets 40B from the drink ) she started to have a more open converstion. I have asked she why she take so much for a ST and LT if it is so much fun to fuck a Japanese she told me that it is no fun she usualy have only do make a HJ or BJ because he is to short. ( Ok we all know this )
So I asked here again why, and she have say we have to start like this we can make ST 1000 LT 1500 ( 50% this sound now more like the Agogo I know ) so I wanted know why she have and the other girls have to start so high,
because the france boss ( france start to take over pattaya ) have say so because he and some other high class Agogo bars ( and this is not a joke ) want 20% of the girl after she have serve the man ST or LT. This mean 600 Pay Bar and 600 B from the girl for LT. I wanted know then why she just not tell the BOSS that she have only go with the man for 1000 LT she say she is is scare that the man comeback ( maybe next day from LT or after te ST ) back to bar and the mamasan ask him if the service was good and how much he have pay just to recheck the girl.

And this is something I not like when I paybar then the girl if free for the time and I can pay here so why she have to pay the Boss again. Something starts to get wrong now, this is my feeling. I meet her tomorrow again lets see if I get something more.

Have fun

Harald99
09-23-07, 13:33
Next inside tip, if you like college girls dressed up in their school uniforms where you go to meet them? Tesco-Lotus food count in Jomtien.Thanks for sharing! But I am not aware of a Tesco-Lotus in Jomtien. I know one at North Pattaya Road and one near the crossing of Thepprasit and Sukhumvit Road. Where can I find the Jomtien Tesco-Lotus?

Many thanks,

Harald99

HenryV
09-23-07, 16:06
unconscionable - on her part.


a recent visit confirmed that beach road remains the same. there are girls to be had, and even a few cute ones, but the presure continues from the authorities. i had begun to hope that as the lackadaisical military government continued these bourgeois actions would lessen, but no such luck. girls confirmed that the 'testing of [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)' was continuing, and was the main reason that many familiar faces are away in prison.

i also tried the services of [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900). it was ok, but the price has apparently increasted to 700 baht, which is way too much. that's $20, which is about the price of a blow job back home.

though they don't yet have porn movies playing in the rooms upstairs (seems a silly oversight), they have included small couches and a strategically placed mirror. personally i always disliked those dentist/barber chair setups - they're still there, but you can choose the settee. lastly my girl wouldn't take the load in her mouth, so i had to blow it on her face.

RetiredForever
09-25-07, 01:45
Will be in SE Asia for 3 months starting some time in November. Does any one know good oral surgeon for Branemark System teeth implants? Also need a basil cancer spot removed from cheek. Any one know a good surgeon. Your assistance and suggestions would be appreciated. PM if you prefere.

Peter1999
09-25-07, 05:30
After about 2 years I´m finaly back in Pattaya and it have change a lot...You're right, Pattaya changed a lot, and not for the best. I was there 2 weeks ago and I found nothing interesting. Maybe because of the low season? Beach Road scene is still dead with only ugly and old ladies (but you can still be lucky and find some gems) and beer bars are empty. I had to run away from there and went back to Bkk, though it's much more expensive.

LittleBigMan
09-25-07, 09:28
MiamiBill, you are truly a brave sole. My hat off to you!

I do agree somewhat with MB, that once you stay here for a while and aren't in a rush you see and encounted so much more of Pattaya. But I don't have the balls that MB has to play around with the staff that is responsible for one's health.

The last few days I have been visiting Carrefour, in the food court area they are having a Jewelry Festival, and just outside the UPS, store is a stand that the owner of this temporary stall has the most perfect set of legs I have ever encounted in Thailand. One day I looked out as I was having coffee at 94c and there they were, long white suckable legs. She stands around 5'6, mid-thirties with short reddish hair wearing a short black sun dress and 3 inch heels I couldn't keep my eyes off them and LBM barely could be contained. Until the festival ends I have been visiting the last few days just to get my daily fix.

If I was single, there would be no stopping LBM, but in Pattaya no way for me! Nothing like a older women that takes great care of her body and looks, a business women and artist, and doesn't mine showing what she got!!!

Damn, LBM

Member #4167
09-26-07, 13:47
hey guys,

i am planning a trip to thailand. i saw this article and it has me worried.

i dont want to land in jail.

what is the actual status of the crackdown on sex trade in thailand?

thanks,

water boy


thai junta: sex tours no more

by william sparrow
december 13, 2006

westerners who plan to visit thailand for sex have recently received a new, stark warning from the government's new military government, be warned: we are out to stop you.

that was the message when tourism and sports minister suvit yodmani addressed a group of western journalists in bangkok this passed weekend.

suvit said he welcomed western tourists because they're "quality tourists", and that he was not talking about their wealth. religious, historic and evenly mildy poloitical tourists were acceptable as he accepted, in his example,'quality tourists was a group of 1,000 not very well off vietnamese who recently stayed in and volunteered at a thai monastery.'

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he is due to announce further steps before the end of the month to tighten up on the policing of the sex industry.

each year about 480,000 british holidaymakers and almost as many from germany, france, sweden and other european countries travel to thailand on tourist visas.

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but the government is placing a renewed effort on sex tourists and long stay visa applicants and 'abusers'. recent visa law under the militay government has not shown substantive change, but has renewed enforcement efforts under current laws restricting repeat tourist visas.

in briefings to journalists, government ministers have been at pains to justify the regime change, which has not been approved of by the european union or the us.

despite the coup, and the tsunami two years ago, tourist numbers have in fact increased, and international trade is at record levels.

in the major cities there is no visible sign of martial law. most thais have accepted the political change, taking their cue from their monarch, who is held in high esteem throughout the nation.

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MarcoStraight
09-27-07, 07:50
Hey guys,

I am planning a trip to Thailand. I saw this article and it has me worried.

I dont want to land in jail.

What is the actual status of the crackdown on sex trade in Thailand?

Thanks,

Water Boy

No worry....Banning prostitution in Thailand means cutting 40 % of the economic system's profit

Compadre
09-27-07, 21:32
Will be in SE Asia for 3 months starting some time in November. Does any one know good oral surgeon for Branemark System teeth implants? Also need a basil cancer spot removed from cheek. Any one know a good surgeon. Your assistance and suggestions would be appreciated. PM if you prefere.Bangkok Pattaya Hospital Dental Department is very good and might be able to help with the implants. As for your skin problem Dr Anna at the cosmetic department of Bangkok Pattaya Hospital is excellent.

Mai Yao
09-28-07, 16:27
You're right, Pattaya changed a lot, and not for the best. I was there 2 weeks ago and I found nothing interesting. Maybe because of the low season? Beach Road scene is still dead with only ugly and old ladies (but you can still be lucky and find some gems) and beer bars are empty. I had to run away from there and went back to Bkk, though it's much more expensive.
Funny, I was also there in early September and found sweet, fresh and beautiful girls on the beach every time I was there, especially from five to seven pm. Royal Garden Plaza was also a happy hunting ground.

Pattaya is full of every type of girl (and some not quite) imaginable; if you couldn't latch onto one of them, then the problem must be yours.
Walking Street after 10 pm is an endless parade, the disco's such as LUCIFER, HAMMER and TONYS(too dark for me) are packed; the ratio of women to men 10:1 The SIMON BEER BAR complex across from TONYS was loaded as was every beer bar on Soi's 7&8, North Pattaya Rd, 2nd Rd, Soi Diana, Soi Buakow, ect, ect.
Low season ROCKS!!!

Member #4351
09-28-07, 16:43
Just got back from Soi 6. Not for everyone but I love it. Just with a cute three holer, 300 baht bf and room and 1000 for the girl.

Leo2000
09-28-07, 18:10
Hey guys,

I am planning a trip to Thailand. I saw this article and it has me worried.

I dont want to land in jail.

What is the actual status of the crackdown on sex trade in Thailand?

Thanks,

Water BoyHi,

Don't worry, after the coup, I have to BKK, 5 times and I find that things are better now, with the bars open in Pattaya & BKK beyond the earlier days of 1. 00 am closing.

Walking around lower Suk. In BKK your are not even aware that there was coup, you find the night life busting-at-seam's, with all the food&bars carts serving till early moring.

Go have fun. They cannot get rid of the nightlife. The Isaan economy run on sex industry. The government is happy wioth all the $$$$ coming in, either quality / sex troursit. End of the day. $$$$$

Cheers

Tim Bone
09-29-07, 08:57
I spent two nights in Pattaya, my first time. I stayed at Metro Apartments mentioned by a member in the board a while ago, big and quiet room for 600B. However you have to go through the bar to get to the room. They will register your catch by copying her ID before you take her up to the room.

The first night I needed to rest after being milked dry by GF in Chiang Mai. So I walked around at well known places I read about in the board. It’s quite entertaining to sit down at a bar in Walking Street. Seems like all kinds of weird people gather there, just sit down with a beer and observe what’s passing by. In Pattaya there is something for all. You can be as old as you want, big or small, fat or skinny, sitting in a wheel chair, seems like everyone finds some. I love this place. Oh… another 120-40 passed by (talking about kilos). I found a Grandma bar, a Soi with boy bars, but will not mention which one, not for this forum.

Beach Road before sunset has some cute ones, but mostly dogs. A 19 year old wanted to do short time only. Guess they save eventual LT for the discos.

Marine disco was absolutely empty by midnight. Lucifer’s had a crowd of freelancers though. But it’s to dark inside really to check out the quality.
Also went to BigC shopping mall to buy a phone, caught a smile from a cute one with a good body. But her teeth were not in order. She gave me a quick kiss in an innocent way when I said good bye. Actually regretted my decision later. She might have been a good companion to bring to Ko Samet.

So what did I end up with? I too much just kept looking around. So was back at Metro to play pool and BF one girl there, 250 Bath. They don’t have the best looking girls I have to admit. Gave her a 1000 the next morning, before catching a bus to Ko Samet.

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Zing Uk
09-29-07, 10:20
GF is arriving in DBX within a month so deciding to have a last blast of fun before she arrives I’ve booked myself 9 days in Pattay. I was here once before in 1996 but as a backpacker but am now here s a fully fledged sex tourist with cash to burn. I’ve set myself a budget of 5000bhat per day, (that’s about 550AED so Dubai folks can compare).

Before coming I’ve done my research in here and couple of other excellent websites, I can’t remember them as they are on my laptop at home but just do a Google search on Pattaya they come 2nd or 3rd on the list. Anyway, the research has paid off well so got off to a flaying start, been here less than 48 hours and sampled 6 friends so far. I’m staying in hotel Sawadee Seaview (Soi 10), $78 for 4 nights. It’s a good location, 10 minutes walk from Walking St and 5 minutes from Soi 8 and 13. I only booked 4 as I thought I may move on later to somewhere else. I’ll try to keep a diary during the holiday that will hopefully be helpful to anyone planning a visit here.

28th Oct - Arrived 9.30pm on Thurs 28th, taxi from airport to hotel 1200 Bhat al inclusive. From there straight out to BJ bars in Soi 13/2 Pumping Station and Spiceys. Both a good bet for a great bbbj with CIM no problem. In Pumping Station met a very friendly and surprisingly cute girl. Spent some time with her giving nice warm reception to Pattaya. Later on explored Walking St and some of the Go Go bars there. I’d read the Angel Witch was very good so found it up a side street. It was obviously a very high quality place but not 100% my cup of tea. I suspect that American and Japanese would prefer this place more than Europeans, its expensive, very well produced stage show, beautiful girls, all A-listers (IMHO) but a bit too glitzy for me. I suspect that Europeans maybe like a bit more down to earth witnessed by beer bars being full of them. Later on took a bar girl home for over night but short time suited me so paid her 500 bhat, she did give a great GFE though so think there may be an overnight revisit. She did everything including greek and CIM

29th Oct – I’d read the Sabeiland Body Massage is a must so headed over mid afternoon after waking up. Lots of beautiful girls and you do get a very special time with massage, soap bath on lilo with good suck (no bbbj though, only covered) and fuck. I do recommend that everyone should at least visit but having said that I found it a bit mechanical and expensive. I think its maybe a once a week treat at best, as I said I prefer down to earth.

Anyway, after Sabailand workout my JT is feeling a bit sensitive so decide to rest him tonight so spent the whole evening getting pissed playing pool with a couple of bar girls, one v cute I’ve promised myself tomorrow. My apologies to the locals I was one of those stupid tourist throwing cash around but what the fuck, I’m gonna have fun. Staggered back to bed around 10pm and crashed until 4am. When I woke up I decided to check the beach girls. Some fun to be had and the odd cracker but you need to chose with care. I took a short time girl for 500bhat. It was ok but nothing more and she was keen to leave after the act. Fine by me

30th Oct – Good start so far, morning fuck in Soi 6 gets things going well. I have some big plans for tonight now that I have scoped the place out. Watch out for next report.

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Kiwi 69
09-29-07, 20:51
This is a bit like "a find the needle in the haystack " request, but, nothing ventured, nothing gained.

In March this year I met a fair skinned TG in the Mahal Kita bar in Lohne, Germany, on a Saturday night. Awesome fun, great GFE, no tatoos or piercings, spoke very good English, dressed quite conservitively and fairly reserved, slender great body, gorgeous (IMHO)face, originally from Chaing Mai.

Unfortunately, the Polezi raided the MK on the following Tuesday and she got deported. I had got no contact info from her as I was coming back on the Wednesday! I'm told by a TG that she is now working in Pattaya, so, if anyone meets a Genya or Ganya, I'd appreciate a PM and any contact details.

Her story was she went to uni in BK, her father died, she went home to help the family work the rice farm, money problems, and, hey presto, fly to Germany to supply the " bridging finance ". I tend to believe some of that as she was pretty educated and very different to any other working TG I have met in Europe.

Thanks guys.

Bab Com
10-01-07, 11:37
Who said there is a blackout on pataya scene?

Ok it has been confirmed to me some police actions have stopped the sex shows we have previously seen in some places but there is still a lot of girls everywhere. Arrived Sunday in Pattaya, walked around 4pm on beach road to walking street (yes 8km but I wanted to have a good view of the situation) and counted around 30 girls waiting for farang on the sea front.

Went to some bars kitten, classroom, what s up. Ambiance is down because not enough customers it s low season, but still a lot of girls everywhere here.

GO ON

Bab Com
10-01-07, 11:41
I am in Pattaya since yesterday.

Quiet because the low season.

Around 30 girls on beach road sea side at 5pm.

Around 10 girls in front of Royal Garden Plaza and Mike Shopping Mall.

Nothing special.


Hey guys,

I am planning a trip to Thailand. I saw this article and it has me worried.

I dont want to land in jail.

What is the actual status of the crackdown on sex trade in Thailand?

Thanks,

Water Boy

Almotu
10-01-07, 18:26
This is a bit like "a find the needle in the haystack " request, but, nothing ventured, nothing gained.

In March this year I met a fair skinned TG in the Mahal Kita bar in Lohne, Germany ... Genya or Ganya, I'd appreciate a PM and any contact details.

Her story was she went to uni in BK, her father died, she went home to help the family work the rice farm, money problems, and, hey presto, fly to Germany to supply the " bridging finance "It would help if you had photos of her face.
If a girl is worth repeating, I always try to get her contact info before she leaves. 'Cause you never told, right?
Her story about helping the family is probably true but to go to Germany of all places to work seems far-fetched. More likely she was there on a fiance visa and things did not work out with the guy. But it can appreciate your sentiment. Good luck on your search.

Kiwi 69
10-01-07, 20:30
It would help if you had photos of her face.

If a girl is worth repeating, I always try to get her contact info before she leaves. 'Cause you never told, right?

Her story about helping the family is probably true but to go to Germany of all places to work seems far-fetched. More likely she was there on a fiance visa and things did not work out with the guy. But it can appreciate your sentiment. Good luck on your search.I met her on the Saturday night, and was going back the next week for an overnighter,the Polizei raided the place on the following Tuesday.About 20 girls were deported from the bar,all there I guess on tourist or restricted working visas.That was why I never got contact info or a photos unfortunately.

And the worst thing is the replacements are not of the same quality or quantity!

Dodgy Fellow
10-02-07, 10:43
The first time I visited Pattaya was last May. I got hooked to the place almost immediately. Longer party hours, no liquor ban. I decided to book a whole week for myself here. I'm already on the third day of my stay.

My first stop was at the Pump Station on Soi 8. I tried this spot out on my previous trip, and had no complaints about that session. But this time the girl (Wan was her name) gave me a CBJ. I think it may have been my fault, as I lied to her about this being my first time in Pattaya. The BJ itself was all right, and I found Wan to be pretty, but I'm not going back there again, at least for the rest of this trip.

I tried my hand with the freelancers on Beach Road. Admittedly I have very little experience picking up FLs, and the ones I have seen so far don't quite fit my tastes. I'm trying to see if I can find this Na who has been highly recommended here, but no luck yet.

With the exception of Pump Station, all my other encounters have been at Soi Six. I find it a bit far from where I'm staying. I prefer to walk to Beach Road/Walking Street from my accommodations than taking transport. But I don't have any compliants about the services the girls there provide. Some of the establishments there remind me of Star of Light and similar bars in Bangkok's Patpong before they had to change some of their. More exhibitionist practices. Just avoid the Lick Bar: for some reason every time I pass by there the Lick's girls wear scowls and look pissed over something. And this was the bar I went to on my first Pattaya trip.

I wasn't aware that the Eden Club is closing down. That stinks. I've tried the place a few times, and have never had any complaints about it. Those girls are aggressive, but it was a different experience that appealed to me.

I still have a few days to sample more of Pattaya. Hopefully my future sessions will be at least as good as what I've experienced so far. Many thanks to the experienced hands whose reports have helped me on this trip.

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Krypto Knight
10-03-07, 19:16
28th Oct - Arrived 9.30pm on Thurs 28th,
30th Oct – Good start so far, morning fuck in Soi 6

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Zing I know you from the DBX boards...are you OK Bro???

It's only Oct 3rd and the dates you are posting made me think I was about to miss Halloween.

Slow down mate.

I'll be in Pats Nov 10th...wait...I mean Oct 10th...next week

Tiger 888
10-06-07, 02:13
Just back in HK from a 2 day trip to Pattaya to see my dentist. I had enough time after arriving in BKK early and was not willing to fork out the 1500 for a taxi, so tried to find out about a bus to Pattaya. Since they all want to sell their taxis it is not easy to get the right info. So I will post it here.

There are basically 3 bus companies serving BKK Airport-Pattaya.

1. Best travel: in BKK airport there is always someone sitting on a chair opposite of the tourist police stand on Level one next to door 7. The price is 150 Baht and the bus will go to the North Pattaya Bus stop. Leaving from the airport at 8am, 10am, 12nn, 2pm, 4pm, 6pm.
At the north Pattaya bus stop they have their own air conditioned office and waiting room, buses leaving at 6am, 9am, 11am, 1pm, 3pm and 5pm. Tel. 02-7474675, 038-370055

2. The Transport co. Ltd, they have a booth on level 1 one door further down (I think it is door no.8). The price is 106 Baht, leavinf the airport at 6.45am, 9.15am, 1.15pm, 5.15pm and going to Jomtien Busstop. (But You can get of at the reaffic light around the north pattaya Bus stop). Back from Jomtien to tha airport at 9am, 1pm, 5pm, 7.30pm
Tel. 02-1344099, 038-231142

3. The Rungruang Tour Co., leaving from the Airport bus terminal. You need to take a free shuttle bus from outside exit 5 on level 2 to the bus terminal (takes about 10 minutes). Departure there to Pattaya is at 8am, 11am, 3 pm, 7pm. I couldn't find out their return schedules. Tel. 02-5765599

Freeler
10-06-07, 08:50
Tiger,

Best Travel same same Bell Travel?

Tiger 888
10-06-07, 10:06
Tiger,

Best Travel same same Bell Travel?I would not think so since the names are distinct. A google on

"bell travel" bus to Pattaya

will come up with some more info.

Csincontrol
10-06-07, 15:06
Well just got back from ten days in Pattaya and I miss it already. Hoping to move to Thailand in January for good. This was my 5th trip in the last 3 years. While it was slow, I like it better that way. A few observations: beach roar was still very active and there were a few very cute girls. Prices remained the same 500 baht is more than acceptable. The gogo's were slow but it just made the girls more willing, in my opinion. The new mall off beach road is comming along nicely and has an excellent movie theater and the girls love the vip seats (grin). The exchage rate sucks, I miss the good old 40 to 45 baht to the dollar days. But it was agreat time and I still love to go diving there, if you interested in diving let me know. I can strongly reccomend Real Divers, they are in Jomtien but will pick you up anywhere in town. Great group of guys, been in Thailand for about 10 years.

El Greco
10-06-07, 15:57
Just back in HK from a 2 day trip to Pattaya to see my dentist. I had enough time after arriving in BKK early and was not willing to fork out the 1500 for a taxi, so tried to find out about a bus to Pattaya. Since they all want to sell their taxis it is not easy to get the right info. So I will post it here.

There are basically 3 bus companies serving BKK Airport-Pattaya.

1. Best travel: in BKK airport there is always someone sitting on a chair opposite of the tourist police stand on Level one next to door 7. The price is 150 Baht and the bus will go to the North Pattaya Bus stop. Leaving from the airport at 8am, 10am, 12nn, 2pm, 4pm, 6pm.
At the north Pattaya bus stop they have their own air conditioned office and waiting room, buses leaving at 6am, 9am, 11am, 1pm, 3pm and 5pm. Tel. 02-7474675, 038-370055

2. The Transport co. Ltd, they have a booth on level 1 one door further down (I think it is door no.8). The price is 106 Baht, leavinf the airport at 6.45am, 9.15am, 1.15pm, 5.15pm and going to Jomtien Busstop. (But You can get of at the reaffic light around the north pattaya Bus stop). Back from Jomtien to tha airport at 9am, 1pm, 5pm, 7.30pm
Tel. 02-1344099, 038-231142

3. The Rungruang Tour Co., leaving from the Airport bus terminal. You need to take a free shuttle bus from outside exit 5 on level 2 to the bus terminal (takes about 10 minutes). Departure there to Pattaya is at 8am, 11am, 3 pm, 7pm. I couldn't find out their return schedules. Tel. 02-5765599


Nice report. Thank you.

On the official airport site couldn't find any info regarding timetable to Pattaya.

I new that there was a bus service but didn't know there are three different companies.

I negotiated a taxi driver for 1.000 Baht to my hotel and he was very happy with the price by announcing that to his wife over the phone on the way.

On the way back to Bangkok I took the bus to Mo Chit station for 121 Baht. I will use the Ekamai station next time as it is much more convenient.

The taxi price was 800 Baht to the airport and 1.000 to Bangkok city.

Thanks

El Greco

Krypto Knight
10-06-07, 23:05
Just got back from Soi 6. Not for everyone but I love it. Just with a cute three holer, 300 baht bf and room and 1000 for the girl.

No offense but the standard rate for the girl is 500 baht...maybe 700 if she's amazing. I've never heard of anyone paying 1000 baht ST on Soi 6.

Not criticizing but I just want to let any newbies know this is not the going rate.

I'll be staying at the queen Vic hotel on Soi 6 starting next Tuesday.

Opebo
10-07-07, 12:40
during a recent visit to pattaya i visited pump station twice and got excellent service both times (same girl). i found this noteworthy because i hadn't visited that place in ages due to previous bad experieces. i paid the 370 plus an agreed upon 300 'for the girl'. of course it isn't really clear what is actually the real price, but what can you do? it was worth it as the girl was young-looking and willing to do it totally 'no hands', plus no nonsense about not taking the load in her mouth, unlike my last visit to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900).

i also found the beach road slightly less policed than on previous visits. only a few blackshirts one night. the number of girls is, however, still very low, so something must be still going on. quality also still way down from better days. i did witness a roundup/shakedown-for-cash, but not of our target group.

Zing Uk
10-07-07, 13:34
Zing I know you from the DBX boards...are you OK Bro???

It's only Oct 3rd and the dates you are posting made me think I was about to miss Halloween.

Slow down mate.

I'll be in Pats Nov 10th...wait...I mean Oct 10th...next weekOops!

I'm back in DBX now but seriously considering going across for Eid, where will you be staying? Could be fun to hook up

Opebo
10-07-07, 17:01
i almost forgot to mention another interesting tale from the beach road. i took an old anal favourite and another girl, and things went ok - until i intruded upon her anus. something did feel wrong, almost as if the tube were moving with my penis, like a girdle. it seemed to have come loose from its moorings! after a bit i stopped out of concern, even though she didn't complain, and finished up in the vagina of the other girl (she complained that i did not pull out). then i noticed that the anal specialist was bleeding quite a bit, first into her pants, and then onto the bathroom floor!

girl b seemed more upset about it than did the injured party, and i got a bad feeling that she was peeved.. i quickly paid both girls 500, with an extra 100 for the bleeder. i also offered to take her to her home or to the hospital. she said 'no no, it has happened before, it is no big deal', saying it was a simple 'split' which does occur sometimes. so i made my exit, but as i did girl b suddenly jumped up in a fury and threw her five one hundred baht notes at me! i skedaddled with all seemly haste, and nothing worse happened.. but still, one of those anxious moments - and another lesson about always using a short-time room.

has anyone ever experienced something like this?

Bold Focker
10-08-07, 00:21
Not easy to find wi-fi hotels in Pattaya, but i found this one on the web.
I read, four reviews and it sounded good, so will try it in November on my next trip.

http://www.soichaiyapoon.com/facilities.php

Lover Boy #2
10-08-07, 04:39
first....is there a doctor in the house to explain this? it appears as though a fissure was opened in her anus, causing the profuse bleeding. as far as the "tube moving", i am not sure what this is about and i think we really need a medical opinion as to that.

you did state that the second one seemed upset that you had not pulled out. are you actually barebacking these girls....including the anal exploration? i'm not sure what you are reporting here......but we definitely need medical intervention.

as a side note, i did have an incident in south america where quite a bit of anal bleeding was caused to a non pro. she seemed very upset.....i got her to a hospital....she was super embarassed. the doctors and nurses all seemed very upset with me.....and i was starting to feel embarassed too. luckily, i speak almost fluent portuguese....and i blurted out that the request and the wild movements were not my doing. i started yelling at one of the nurses to stop making comments. another doctor eventually intervened....the girl was given some cream and oral anti-biotics...and everyone went home. i was happy that i had used a condom....and this was a non pro. seeing how these nurses were acting, i know what you went through when the money was tossed....it's not a good feeling.

about six months later, a realtor friend of mine was crossing a large avenue and he saw my girl. he asked her if she had seen me lately........she seemed confused for a minute and then blurted out to the guy...."oh you mean the guy who broke my ass" (in portuguese of course). he called me to tell me what had happened......all i could think was "very high class girl"!!







i almost forgot to mention another interesting tale from the beach road. i took an old anal favourite and another girl, and things went ok - until i intruded upon her anus. something did feel wrong, almost as if the tube were moving with my penis, like a girdle. it seemed to have come loose from its moorings! after a bit i stopped out of concern, even though she didn't complain, and finished up in the vagina of the other girl (she complained that i did not pull out). then i noticed that the anal specialist was bleeding quite a bit, first into her pants, and then onto the bathroom floor!

girl b seemed more upset about it than did the injured party, and i got a bad feeling that she was peeved.. i quickly paid both girls 500, with an extra 100 for the bleeder. i also offered to take her to her home or to the hospital. she said 'no no, it has happened before, it is no big deal', saying it was a simple 'split' which does occur sometimes. so i made my exit, but as i did girl b suddenly jumped up in a fury and threw her five one hundred baht notes at me! i skedaddled with all seemly haste, and nothing worse happened.. but still, one of those anxious moments - and another lesson about always using a short-time room.

has anyone ever experienced something like this?

Piper1
10-08-07, 14:22
Girl B suddenly jumped up in a fury and threw her five one hundred baht notes at me! ... Has anyone ever experienced something like this? Yes, a girl once threw my money back at me because I was no good in bed.

As for your medical query, this might help:

http://www.hemorrhoidshemroids.com/index.html

Best regards,

Doctor Piper

Freeler
10-08-07, 19:54
O, pebo!

Right, anal bleeding and money thrown in one incident. If (IF!) I had a tale like that to tell, I most certainly would. But I don't. I don't fuck women till their anuses(?) are ripped apart nor do I do anything to make them them throw a picture of the King (who, by the way, celebrates his 80th birthday on December 5th, did anyone notice?!) at me.
You are one of a kind.

Giotto
10-08-07, 20:01
O, pebo!

Right, anal bleeding and money thrown in one incident. If (IF!) I had a tale like that to tell, I most certainly would. But I don't. I don't fuck women till their anuses(?) are ripped apart nor do I do anything to make them them throw a picture of the King (who, by the way, celebrates his 80th birthday on December 5th, did anyone notice?!) at me.
You are one of a kind.Freeler,

Thanks! Nothing to add.


Giotto

StonedImmaculate
10-08-07, 20:03
Hi!

Where can we find russian/CIS girls in Pattaya for a decent rate.

Can any monger give a report of their whereabouts?

Leo Monti
10-09-07, 06:36
No offense but the standard rate for the girl is 500 baht...maybe 700 if she's amazing. I've never heard of anyone paying 1000 baht ST on Soi 6.

Not criticizing but I just want to let any newbies know this is not the going rate.

I'll be staying at the queen Vic hotel on Soi 6 starting next Tuesday.It happends more and more often that some good looking BG in soi 6 ask 1000 for ST. Not many until now, but when they will notice they can get double rate easy they will never go for less again. Sad

Have It
10-10-07, 04:48
I am making my annual trip to Pattaya again very soon to soak up the scene and enjoy my usual large amount of incredible Golf in the area.

Last time I was there, I reported What's Up a-go go as being my gogo of choice during my visit. February '07. Has anyone been there recently and how's it going now?

Also, has anyone visited the Buffalo Bar which I also enjoyed a lot.

I stayed at Residence garden last time which was pretty good too (report in hotels section) but I was recommended Areca Lodge - any thoughts?

Soi6 was pretty good, last February too, but the BR scene was very poor compared to previous trips over the last 4-5 years.

Does anyone know if the Siam Country Club is open yet?

Also has anyone been to Rainbow or girly bars next to Mabrachan Reservoir recently?

Thanks in advance guys

Tiger 888
10-10-07, 06:47
Was in the Windmill Club (Walking street soi Diamond) recently, quite a happening place. A girl quoted me 1500 for LT. Very reasonable for a gogo. She was not at all bad looking, still not my taste.

LittleBigMan
10-10-07, 09:23
Have It,

Siam Country Club is open now after it's renovation. But they are holding I believe in the coming week the LPGA Tournament.

Sorry no sex question answers!

LBM

Alex P Keaton
10-11-07, 01:58
Where can we find russian/CIS girls in Pattaya for a decent rate.

Can any monger give a report of their whereabouts?

There is a tailor shop midway down Walking Street called Sir Marlowe's. Across the street is an open-air bar (it either doesn't have a name, or I never saw the name). Some Eastern European and CIS girls congregate there at night. Their initial asking price will be at least $100 U.S., but your mongering brethren will be sorely disappointed in you if you don't negotiate that down. If you meet Layla from Kazakhstan, say hi for me, the long-haired gentleman who befriended her a week ago.

Have It
10-11-07, 08:12
I'll never understand and many of the guys on this forum I'm sure will never understand the attraction of the Russian girls, all pasty and white and as far as western looking girls go, not that pretty. They are just hard faced broads with no warmth and the audacity to charge the rates they do amongst a sea of smiles, velvety skin and incredible value. Quite ridiculous.

PhilmaCavity
10-11-07, 11:28
Had a great time in Feburary in the Hell club, so it was natural enough that I'd want to endulge in their specialities once more. Picked my girl, who, at this time was the ' best of a bad bunch ' She was slim, not ugly and hopefully knowledgeable on a broad range of perverse activities. I allowed her to pick the other participant, as I had before and again a reasonable enough looking girl, but far from a beauty. So of we marched to the room. Sadly the whole experience took a major hit in the shower. Both of my ladies had been exposed to the rigours of child birth, which had not corrected well. Unfortunate for the ladies, but a big turn off for me!

I made the discision to soldier on and hope that their skills would eclipse any visual impairments, but sadly my head would not get around this for the entire session. I had been chuffed at choosing the room with the swing and the cameras for the tv viewing of my exploits, but as the adventure unfolded none of the extra room features where utilized. On the plus side the girls were fun and they did try!

My interest waned to the point of embarassment, after I had disposed of one measily load of semen, that lacked any velocity and oozed out of me, lacking power or direction.compare this with my last report, when I shot 3 times in the session, spurred on by two deep throating devils. Who were fit, without being stunners.

In summary, I have to say that, Hell club is relatively expensive, but I based on my first experience, I would say well worth it. Based on my second experience, I would say that for this money, the girls need to have looks, tight bodys and the skills. At the end of the day, It's Pattaya, if you look hard enough, you will find all this and for less.

Now in fairness to the Club, they say, if you don't enjoy the experience you don't pay. But for me, explaining the reasons why and causing the girls the distress and embarrassment etc etc. Is just not worth it, everyone deals with a situation differently, but it's not in my make up to go down that road.

But, if I had felt, I have been deliberately misled, or the girls had been unfriendly or disinterested, then that's a different story altogether, I'm no walkover. Unfortunately, I'll probably not be back, when I return in November. I'll just do the searching this time.

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Billy Baht
10-11-07, 18:14
Also, has anyone visited the Buffalo Bar which I also enjoyed a lot.

Soi6 was pretty good, last February too, but the BR scene was very poor compared to previous trips over the last 4-5 years.

I've been to Buffalo a few times. Good bar but, IMHO, the girls are a bit hard core.

I admit to liking the "in your face sleaze" of Soi 6. The girls know what they are there for :)

Lance

Dinghy
10-12-07, 04:12
Soi 6 - and most of them LIKE what they do, too. There is, of course, the starfish aspect, but one is more likely to find that with some of the "higher class go-go bars" - the "just do me and I'll leave" type

Anybody have any info on the bars out Naklua way? where? how much?

Jomtien is pretty dead but there are some gorls out on the beach side. Last nite at 9pm Beach road in Pattaya was loaded with ladies (and a few "non-ladies" too) - the "wannabee a cops" were just starting to make their appointed rounds AT 930 or so.

Prices are noticeably lower in Jomtien. Massage and sa-moke for 250B (beach road lady)

Erik
10-12-07, 15:09
Any one has been to that gogo bar in Jomtian, on the main road from Pattaya, just before arrving to the beach ? How is it ?
Thanks.

Maaars
10-13-07, 01:05
Any one has been to that gogo bar in Jomtian, on the main road from Pattaya, just before arrving to the beach ? How is it ?
Thanks.

Its about the ONLY one in Jomthien, so they must be No. 1 ??
As for how it is, there are a few dancers who are past their prime and should be thinking about alternative employment, but u get a few nice younger ones there too. The service girls can actually be a good pick sometimes too. Rooms upstairs are available although I have never tried them myself. If ur walking back from the beach late afternoon, and need to grab a beer and look at some booty, then its a good choice. They also have 2 large screens that show pretty good music video's if all the pussy gets too much for u ! Thats MHO anyway

Terry Terrier
10-13-07, 08:49
Wasn't there another one a bit further up the road with an equally ambitious name (something like 'We Are The World Agogo')? Another entertainment option in Jomtien (in the complex behind the main road) was the Las Vegas bar where you could play naked pool (the girl, that is, not you) for 200bt, short time rooms upstairs. Girls in both places were average imo though.

Peterterb
10-14-07, 09:10
my first trip to pattaya started out rough! a frightening taxi ride at 140 km/hour to shanghai pudong airport, a late departure for bangkok, a long wait to get through passport control in bangkok, and a brutal 3 hour taxi ride in the pouring rain to pattaya. but finally, around 5 in the afternoon, my taxi pulled up in front of the whitehouse condotel and i knew everything was going to be alright.

the condotel is a simple place, and the standard room (1200 baht/night) is a very basic room, but the rooms are clean, the king size bed and linens very nice, the plumbing is top notch, lots of television channels, excellent high-speed internet access (100 baht/day, bring your own cable), a safe in the closet: just exactly as described on the website. the rate includes a good breakfast in the restaurant on the ground floor. and it is guest friendly, the first overnight guest is free, each additional guest is 500 baht/night. it is also convenient to the fun spots around soi 13.

last night was my first night on the town in pattaya so i wandered down beach road to soi 6, there are so many good reports about this street that it had to be my first stop. it’s an easy 30 minute walk to soi 6, and if you walk along the beach side you’ll get lots of smiles from the freelancers who sit on the benches that line the promenade. most of them were older and not so good looking but there were a few young and hot ones available.

when i reached soi 6 i decided to walk the whole length to see the talent level and then pick out a girl for some fun. it’s not a long walk from beach road to second road, but your progress will be slowed by the hundreds of young girls trying to get your attention. i took about 20 minutes to get to second road and i saw many sexy girls.

one in particular seemed sweet with a beautiful smile, her name was dit (short for somdit) and she worked at the full moon bar near the second road end. she took me inside and i ordered drinks for both of us. i asked her all about my options for the evening. "go upstairs" would cost me 300 fine and 500 for dit. "go to hotel" would cost me 500 fine and anywhere from 500 to 1000 for dit depending on how long she stayed. she was not the most beautiful girl on the street, and she had some bad stretch marks from childbirth, but i could sense that she was committed to making me happy and that was good enough for my first night in town.

we stopped for pizza on the way home, nice restaurant at the corner of beach road and soi 6/1. in the hotel room we both showered and then just hung out on the bed and watched tv for a while. after a while she seemed to want to get to it so we shut off the tv and got down to business. my "radar" had been correct, she was totally compliant in bed and made sure that i was a happy man. i quite liked her company and so invited her to spend the night with me, which she did.

the next morning we had breakfast together and we gave each other thai/english lessons, which made her quite happy. i asked her to show me how to get to the carrefour shopping center so she arranged for a baht bus to collect us and drive up there. we wandered around for an hour or so and picked up some essentials, again she was quite happy to spend time with me, her big smile beaming the whole time.

when it was time for her to go back to the bar, i told her that i was a butterfly and that i would probably not date her again. she seemed only slightly disappointed, as other reports have stated, the soi 6 girls are not "clingy". i also asked her about two other girls that i had seen at the full moon who were quite well endowed ("big mew", she laughed! ), and that i would like to take them out. she told me that she would put in a good word for me. it is good to have friends in important places!

i’m back in my room now writing this report and waiting for the thunderstorm to end. hope to post my day 2 report tomorrow. pattaya is great!

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Peterterb
10-15-07, 03:04
another great day in pattaya yesterday. i started the day by heading over to a couple of afternoon go-go bars near my hotel to check out the action.

first stop was the tahitian queen on beach road near soi 13. this place gets a lot of positive reviews and has a website so there’s a lot of information available. it is very small, just a single room with a central stage for the girls. along the back wall are a series of booths where many customers sit. these seem to be the prime seats as there were lots of girls taking care of the lucky guys in those seats. along the front wall is a long bar with stools for the less-than-lucky customers. the problem with these is that the girls must stand in front of you instead of sitting down beside you. when i got there at 2 pm it was quite busy so i had to sit on a stool.

after a few minutes i spotted my favorite dancer, a petite beauty with long hair and a great smile. i flashed her a lot of smiles to let her know that i wanted her to join me and sure enough when dance shift ended she came right over. her friend came along too so i encouraged the friend to join the stranger sitting next to me (a nice guy, dutch i think, sorry i never caught his name). my girl was a real keeper and i wanted to barfine her right away. but in the back of mind i wanted to see walking street as this is the most famous part of pattaya and i hadn’t seen it yet. i spent about 90 minutes chatting with her and finally promised i would come back the next day to barfine her. she seemed happy with that arrangement. you’ll have to read tomorrow’s trip report to see if i can keep my promise (i hope to !). i won’t give her name as i don’t want some other guy grabbing her today.

next stop was far east rock just around the corner on soi 13/2. same layout, a single small room with a central stage. this time i spotted two very sexy ladies, jane and tik, and flashed them the “come hither” smile. they both joined me for a while but tik kept hassling me about barfines and drinks so i ignored her and she wandered away. i kept jane with me for a while but she wasn’t barfine material so i paid up and left. far east had a really fun atmosphere, there were a couple of crazy patrons and equally crazy dancers who were keeping the place hopping and laughing.

what i liked about both tq and far east was the music was relatively low and i was able to chat with the girls quite easily.

after a mediocre dinner (i won’t mention the name as most other reviews are positive, maybe i just have high expectations) i headed down to walking street. well i was absolutely blown away ! what a human circus ! the lights, noise, people, utter chaos as you walk down that street is phenomenal. just one bar, go-go, or disco, after another, with a few restaurants and shops thrown in. hello girls and guys luring you in with happy hour specials. lots of cute girls walking around. lots of families with little kids out for a stroll too ! i took a peek in a few but i really wanted to get to the “prestige” clubs (at least that was my impression from reading the reviews) down near soi 16. i went in club boesche and the place started filling up like crazy (this was around 9 pm) with guys and very hot girls. there were a lot of beauties approaching me and sitting with me, so even if you are shy and/or not good looking (your humble reporter is, regrettably, both), these girls will eagerly make your acquaintance. the back of the club has a jacuzzi set in the floor, and it was very crowded, and i saw a least two accidents (broken glasses), i don’t like such crowds so i stayed up near the front where i could see the stage and more importantly all the girls could see me. i was soon greeted by a tiny, gorgeous dancer called tuk. she told me she was 26 and a mother of two but her body was excellent. again i wanted to barfine her straight away but felt that i should see some more walking street sights before committing. so i said i would return and set out.

i stopped in at peppermint palace, it was absolutely packed with men and gorgeous go-gos. but the music was so loud that conversation as impossible so i declined when the ladies asked to join me. watching the other guys meet, greet, and barfine these stunners was very entertaining. i have no idea how they pick a compatible girl in such chaos and noise. but i saw one girl after another getting barfined and heading out with their date. i guess it is just pure physical attraction.

next stop was simon complex of beer bars, this is a big hall with perhaps 12 separate beer bars. each bar had 10 or 20 hot girls, but there were no more than 25 men in the whole place. that’s about 6 or 10 girls for every guy ! again i would have stayed but the music was way too loud for me so i headed back to boesche.

when i got there they asked if i wanted a seat but i just signaled “17” which was tuk’s number. she was absolutely shocked when she saw me, apparently the men never go back when they leave a bar. i quickly barfined her (600 baht) and we rented a bus (100 baht) to go back to the hotel.

i really enjoyed tuk’s company but i don’t think she was really into me, she just wasn’t giving me the eye contact and other body language. we had agreed to long time for 2000 but as soon as we were done she said she couldn’t sleep so early (it was around midnight) and that she wanted to go back to the gogo to dance. i think they call these girls “runners” and the best thing to do is let them go and pay them at the short time rate which was 1500. that’s what i did. i was still satisfied and now i could look forward to a good night’s sleep.

sorry guys no photo of tuk for you as she ran out the door so fast i never had a chance to ask.

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Lover Boy #2
10-15-07, 05:33
very nice, honest report....keep 'em coming!!



another great day in pattaya yesterday. i started the day by heading over to a couple of afternoon go-go bars near my hotel to check out the action.

first stop was the tahitian queen on beach road near soi 13. this place gets a lot of positive reviews and has a website so there’s a lot of information available. it is very small, just a single room with a central stage for the girls. along the back wall are a series of booths where many customers sit. these seem to be the prime seats as there were lots of girls taking care of the lucky guys in those seats. along the front wall is a long bar with stools for the less-than-lucky customers. the problem with these is that the girls must stand in front of you instead of sitting down beside you. when i got there at 2 pm it was quite busy so i had to sit on a stool.

after a few minutes i spotted my favorite dancer, a petite beauty with long hair and a great smile. i flashed her a lot of smiles to let her know that i wanted her to join me and sure enough when dance shift ended she came right over. her friend came along too so i encouraged the friend to join the stranger sitting next to me (a nice guy, dutch i think, sorry i never caught his name). my girl was a real keeper and i wanted to barfine her right away. but in the back of mind i wanted to see walking street as this is the most famous part of pattaya and i hadn’t seen it yet. i spent about 90 minutes chatting with her and finally promised i would come back the next day to barfine her. she seemed happy with that arrangement. you’ll have to read tomorrow’s trip report to see if i can keep my promise (i hope to !). i won’t give her name as i don’t want some other guy grabbing her today.

next stop was far east rock just around the corner on soi 13/2. same layout, a single small room with a central stage. this time i spotted two very sexy ladies, jane and tik, and flashed them the “come hither” smile. they both joined me for a while but tik kept hassling me about barfines and drinks so i ignored her and she wandered away. i kept jane with me for a while but she wasn’t barfine material so i paid up and left. far east had a really fun atmosphere, there were a couple of crazy patrons and equally crazy dancers who were keeping the place hopping and laughing.

what i liked about both tq and far east was the music was relatively low and i was able to chat with the girls quite easily.

after a mediocre dinner (i won’t mention the name as most other reviews are positive, maybe i just have high expectations) i headed down to walking street. well i was absolutely blown away ! what a human circus ! the lights, noise, people, utter chaos as you walk down that street is phenomenal. just one bar, go-go, or disco, after another, with a few restaurants and shops thrown in. hello girls and guys luring you in with happy hour specials. lots of cute girls walking around. lots of families with little kids out for a stroll too ! i took a peek in a few but i really wanted to get to the “prestige” clubs (at least that was my impression from reading the reviews) down near soi 16. i went in club boesche and the place started filling up like crazy (this was around 9 pm) with guys and very hot girls. there were a lot of beauties approaching me and sitting with me, so even if you are shy and/or not good looking (your humble reporter is, regrettably, both), these girls will eagerly make your acquaintance. the back of the club has a jacuzzi set in the floor, and it was very crowded, and i saw a least two accidents (broken glasses), i don’t like such crowds so i stayed up near the front where i could see the stage and more importantly all the girls could see me. i was soon greeted by a tiny, gorgeous dancer called tuk. she told me she was 26 and a mother of two but her body was excellent. again i wanted to barfine her straight away but felt that i should see some more walking street sights before committing. so i said i would return and set out.

i stopped in at peppermint palace, it was absolutely packed with men and gorgeous go-gos. but the music was so loud that conversation as impossible so i declined when the ladies asked to join me. watching the other guys meet, greet, and barfine these stunners was very entertaining. i have no idea how they pick a compatible girl in such chaos and noise. but i saw one girl after another getting barfined and heading out with their date. i guess it is just pure physical attraction.

next stop was simon complex of beer bars, this is a big hall with perhaps 12 separate beer bars. each bar had 10 or 20 hot girls, but there were no more than 25 men in the whole place. that’s about 6 or 10 girls for every guy ! again i would have stayed but the music was way too loud for me so i headed back to boesche.

when i got there they asked if i wanted a seat but i just signaled “17” which was tuk’s number. she was absolutely shocked when she saw me, apparently the men never go back when they leave a bar. i quickly barfined her (600 baht) and we rented a bus (100 baht) to go back to the hotel.

i really enjoyed tuk’s company but i don’t think she was really into me, she just wasn’t giving me the eye contact and other body language. we had agreed to long time for 2000 but as soon as we were done she said she couldn’t sleep so early (it was around midnight) and that she wanted to go back to the gogo to dance. i think they call these girls “runners” and the best thing to do is let them go and pay them at the short time rate which was 1500. that’s what i did. i was still satisfied and now i could look forward to a good night’s sleep.

sorry guys no photo of tuk for you as she ran out the door so fast i never had a chance to ask.

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Member #3173
10-15-07, 14:31
Just for info which is seldom mentioned; do the girls dance topless or bottomless or both while you were there? If not for the girls at least I can go for the show.Thanks

Roguesta
10-15-07, 15:26
Legally, they cannot dance topless or bottomless, but they do anyway when they can. They'll usually have a lookout for the police. So, if you're in a gogo, and the girls are naked, and all of the sudden they put their clothes back on, this means they've been given the signal.

Another way I've seen some clubs get around this is to have the girls wear tiny skirts with no underwear.

L A Guy
10-15-07, 19:30
After seeing more pics of Na posted by Dars Veider recently, I have to admit that I have joined her fanclub and I really would love to meet her. Could someone who knows her or has her contact number be so kind as to pass it along to me please via PM? I will go down there for the day just to hook up with her and treat her like the superstar she is.

Thanks :)

Aeolus
10-15-07, 23:54
Nice reporting peter. Sounds like your doing well for your first time there!

Some quick advice. Hook up with fellow mongers, your at a prime location sio 13 and plenty of them, fun to hang around and learn from your monger friends. Hit the beer bars down on sio 2 and such. If you go out early just barfine them and tell them you will be back, get their cell # and sms when your ready, this gives you some time to find someone better that night (your only out a barfine) or recon for the next night. Also the discs can be another fun spot to pick them up. Remember its low season so you can get a cheaper rate. Try the sportsman bar next door for some good breakfast, sorry but even the free whitehouse breakfast never cut it for me.

Veterano
10-15-07, 23:57
Lots of nudity in Happy a Go Go (everywhere, but particularly in the back stage)

Dodgy Fellow
10-16-07, 16:59
I meant to write up the rest of my report earlier, but real life priorities came up.

It's been two weeks since my trip to Pattaya. As with the first half of my trip, the bulk of my mongering for the rest of my stay was done at Soi Six. I just like the ambience there better, where you can have a girl give you head right in the bar (well, some of the bars on the Soi anyway), or at least suck her tits and finger her in a dark corner. Got to do one bartender (cumming on her face), then went three holes with another girl at the same establishment a few days later. It's one of the bars with the staff dressed as schoolgirls.

I hooked up with what I thought was a freelancer at Walking Street. Bought drinks for her and her friend, then took her back to my hotel. That was when she called her mamasan and charged me 1,500 baht. This is the first time I've come across this working girl arrangement, and on hindsight I probably should have just kicked her out right then and there, but I didn't. The rest of the night went downhill as the girl didn't do BJs. I soldiered on and worked with what was given, but it was a bust.

I didn't do any of the freelancers on Beach Road; there's one fair-skinned lass (Chinese features, dyed auburn hair) who did catch my fancy, but when I spotted her she was already taken by another guy. Found a couple of other girls working the beach who also caught my interest, but they seemed too young.

These misses were made up for when I ran into N, one of the girls working at one of Pattaya's many billiard halls. The first time I met her was during my first Pattaya trip last May: we made eye contact as we walked past each other. She smiled, I smiled back. Turns out she was walking down the same street where my hotel was. We chatted, and about 15 minutes later we were dong the deed. This time around, she called me as I passed by her bar (wow, she remembered!). "How are you? Long time no see!" She asked if I wanted to play a game of pool, I said I wanted to use a different stick. Back to the hotel for some boom-boom. 1,000 baht tip to her + 350 baht barfine.

On my last day I debated on whether to get one last lay before catching the bus back to the airport, or just treat myself to a Thai massage. My dick won out. Back to Soi Six for a quickie, though I wound up having to hire a private car (900 baht) to take me to the airport to catch my flight.

At this point I'm completely won over to Pattaya. I'm already counting the days to my next trip. Do prices go up during high season?

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Peterterb
10-17-07, 05:38
Day 3 started out with a return visit to Tahitian Queen 1, I was intending to barfine little Pam that I met the day before. I wanted to find a girl with whom I could spend a day or two, as I wanted to see a couple of Pattaya’s tourist attractions with a little sweetie on my arm. It was 1 pm and TQ1 had just opened so I figured the place would be running like clockwork.

Well of course nothing runs like clockwork in Thailand, Pam was nowhere to be seen, her friend them was nowhere to be seen, the mamasan seemed a little clueless, she claimed to have never heard of Pam. What’s a poor fella to do? I ordered a coke and decided to sit and wait for the fog of war to clear. Sure enough one of the other dancers recognized me and came over to assist. She ran around the club looking at clipboards, making phone calls, talking to the other girls. It seems that Pam is a real person, that she does work the day shift, and she should have been on duty, but she wasn’t in the club and wasn’t answering her phone. Oh well, there are only about 10, 000 equally well qualified girls in town, so I decided to go find a substitute honey on Soi 6.

Soi 6 can be a tough place to find a nice girl, there are dozens of bars and hundreds of girls to choose from, but the setting is quite intimidating. Each bar has a half dozen or so girls sitting out front even at 2 in the afternoon. But they greet the men with an aggressive, almost mocking tone which is upsetting to a gentle, sensitive soul like me. Makes it hard to tell the hardened bitter ladies from the nice sweet ones (yes there are both types on Soi 6! ).

First stop was Full Moon where Saturday’s barfine Dit was delighted to see me. She took me inside and brought me a beverage. I inquired about the whereabouts of her busty colleagues Noong and Oom. Turns out Oom was sitting right in front of me getting groped by another customer. Dit told me that Oom doesn’t do long time so I struck her off my list. And Dit’s description of Noong was a little off, she wasn’t busty, just fat. So I decided to move along.

Second stop was Halifax where I was escorted inside by the lovely Ow. Within seconds she started *****ing and moaning to me about how her head hurts, there are no good men, she has no money, blah, blah, blah. I thought that was an interesting approach to getting a man to like you so I decided to hunker down and hear her out. Twenty minutes in I decided to try an intervention, I suggested to her that many of the men wandering by her bar have wives back home who are expert at nagging and that perhaps these men were looking for something else from a bargirl, like a little sweet talk and bullshit. Wow, that really set her off. She launched into Round 2 of her tirade. I decided to wind it up, paid my tab, and ran out the door.

Next stop was Sexy Soi 69, and I took a girl who looked good from a distance but not so good close up. Not much in the small talk department but at least she was trying. Time to move on.

Final stop was the Bull Ring, where they had a great selection of girls out front, all in schoolgirl outfits, and they seemed a little more friendly than the rest. I looked over my choices, they had one with an enormous chest on her, a few typical bar girls types (late 20s, early 30s, very hot), and one that looked like she had just stepped out of high school. Bingo! Sa was 21, cute as a button, and extremely friendly. I took her in and we started to talk.

Correction: I started to talk. Sa is extremely shy and quiet, she uses her big beautiful eyes to do all her talking. I could hardly get a word out of her. One Heineken later, and I faced a tough decision. Take a chance on this very quiet girl "opening up", or keep moving and find another one. I decided to barfine Sa and use my with and charm to bring her out of her shell (hey that’s how you think when it’s stinkin’ hot and humid, you’re a little bit buzzed, and you’re surrounded by gorgeous Thai babes telling you you’re handsome). Off we went to MK Restaurant for dinner.

Dinner was more of the same, all smiles and nods but not much dialogue. Baskin-Robbins ice cream didn’t help. Oh well lets get her back in the room and see what happens. She still wasn’t talking but she was absolutely great in the sack. Nice body, very sensual girl, and an awesome BJ.

Next day it was off to Pattaya Park waterpark in Jomtien. Easy 15 minute drive from Soi 13 and we got there around 11 am before the crowds arrived. I took Sa on the roller coaster and that was the biggest smile I got out of her the whole time. We spent the rest of the afternoon in the park enjoying the waterslides and swimming pools. We both had a really great time. Mostly families in there, I think I was the only one who brought a "date". Back to the hotel in the afternoon for a little afternoon delight and then we went downstairs to the hotel restaurant (the Trumpeter) where we had a great dinner of Thai and Western food.

We decided to spend the evening visiting the go-gos and discos on Walking Street. This is an entirely different experience when you bring your own bargirl with you! The dancers are just as keen to sit with you and ask for barfines and ladydrinks, I guess they figure the guy is trying to upgrade to a threesome. The thought certainly crossed my mind! Maybe Sa sensed that my butterfly instincts were kicking in and she figured another girl would keep me interested. The dancers would often lean over and ask Sa a question. Thank goodness I don’t understand Thai, I would rather not know what they’re talking about.

Anyways I wasn’t interested in replacing Sa or adding a third girl so we just hopped around the bars. We visited Beavers, Catz, X-Zone, Paris, and Carousel go-gos and Tony’s and Lucifers discos (just for a look, not my thing).

We had the most fun in Catz and Paris. Those Catz girls are really hot and like to goof around. Quite a few go topless on stage and there are occasional lesbian "shows" where the performers are nude. Paris was mobbed with hot girls, just total chaos, also lots of fun. Lots of topless action on stage, and some fun shows too with bananas, simulated lesbian stuff. And for those guys who like the petite/busty type girls, go to X-Zone, there is a little bitty thing there with a pair of monster tits, they looked real to me because they have that "rocket ship" shape rather than the "balloon" shape which is typical for fake boobs. Can something please do some research on this? Anyways Sa and I got sort of drunk visiting all those bars so we headed back to the hotel and I passed out in about 10 seconds.

This morning it was time to say goodbye to Sa. I never really was able to get her talking. I’ll never know if she had a brain in that cute little head, but she certainly treated me well and made me happy for 36 hours. Sometimes it got a little frustrating hearing her say "Up to you" to every question. I gave her 3000 baht for two days work and sent her on her way.

Today’s assignment: find some chatterbox who won’t let me get a word in edgewise. Variety is the spice of life!

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Svenpattaya
10-17-07, 21:16
This trip is not my first time in Pattaya but it is my first time to try the shy, less experience, good body by the lady called Part-Time. My close friend who has been living in Pattaya for couple years recommends me a new concept of "Part-Time" or some Thai call "Side-Line" Ladies. That mean the lady who is not 100% in the sex business such as beer bar, massage palour or ago-go. These girls could be student, hair-dresser, office lady. Of course, what I tried is the real natural feel of emotion, firmed body(tits&pussy). Mostly educated and can speak English very well. It is like you have sex with your own girlfriend. My friend warned me not expect to have a fancy sex and big fucking.

Where I found these girls? My friend told me the best information is the local guy who always use this service either Expat or Thai. The good and reliable agent always recommend the good lady if you pay him well including the tip.
The girl could come to the hotel with an appointment.

Anywhere else that I can see these girls.

There is one place in Pattaya he mentioned and took me to 'Gentlemen's Massage". It is quite far from the tourist area and walking street. The papasan is friendly and speaks good English. He shows me a photo album and the girls who are already there. We are a combination between old fashioned soapy massage and luxury Thai massage, he said. I picked "Ae" who is 20 a college student. Massage was great, sex is totally natural. I can give her orgasm 2 times and surely no fake. This like a sex with my young girlfriend.

Very recommend you to try another side of Pattaya ladies epecially who sick of bar beer and old soapy massage palour which is rather 'Sex Machine".

Your local Thai or Farang could be the good contact for reliable agent. Also I would recommend to go to "Gentlemen's Massage". This is the website that I bring along www.Pattaya-World.com/GM

This is Pattaya all about!

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Bluefielder
10-17-07, 22:58
First off, I'd like to say. The guys reporting that Pattaya has lost it's luster are either crazy or outright lying. I just got back from 18 days there and I can tell you. There are way more available women than men to take them. The place was simply packed with women, 7 days per week. There were veterans and new arrivals from the villages. I had read before I left that Beach Road was dead at night, it was an absolute lie. There were women everywhere.

Number 2. The worst thing about Pattaya is us. The farangs. I more than once ran into guys who, in the US or Western society could only be classified as total chumps, nerds, goofballs, the kind of kids who would be picked on at school. In Pattaya, due to the Thai people's non-confrontational nature, these guys had turned into absolutely loud, boorish, obnoxious bullies themselves.

I was eating at Tips restaurant in the morning and there was a drunk goofball farang talking at the top of his lungs to 2 Thai women he had brought along, bragging about how he'd been in school 30 years, how much money he had, etc. And peppering his conversation with occasionally shouts in bamboo English. Mind you, there were people eating in the restaurant. Yet he acted like he was the only person in the world. He was a real a-hole. Just so needy for attention and such a bully. Taking advantage of his host's good nature. If I was in the US, I would have removed him, pronto, from the restaurant immediately. I saw many other what could only be described as ogres, walking the streets of Pattay with super-model quality women. Guys, learn to dress, we farangs look like total stinky slobs out there. It's embarrasing.

I also saw lots and lots of guys, most in fact, with beautiful women, but too drunk to enjoy them. If the point is to relate to beautiful women, why be drunk all the time?

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Peterterb
10-18-07, 02:26
I decided to give my old body a rest after 4 days of drinking and debauchery. So Day 5 would be a "no boom boom" day. This turned out to be a good strategy as it allowed me to wander around town and drink all night without the risk of whiskey dick, plus there is no pressure to choose the "right" girl as the clock ticks toward midnight.

Wandered down to Walking Street in the afternoon just to see the difference between night and day. It is dead during the day. They slide the vehicle barrier out of the way so it becomes a regular road and this allows service vehicles to use the street for deliveries, repairs, etc. All of the bars, clubs, and gogos are closed. Just a few guys flogging custom-made suits. Headed back north.

Spent part of the afternoon in the afternoon gogos on Soi 13/2 near Beach Road, Nevada and Las Vegas. This was my first time in Nevada. The day shift is brutal, none of the dancers are very hot and many of them are well past their "sell by" date. But they’re nice girls to chat and share a drink with.

Across the street to Las Vegas and I was immediately joined by Jane, the girl that caught my eye a few days earlier. She’s a really laid back, easy going girl, very pretty and lots of smiles. She was the first of many today who would tempt me to break the "no boom boom" rule. But I resisted the urge and just enjoyed the scenery. The other girls working the day shift at Las Vegas are fun girls but way way below average looks for a gogo.

After dinner I went over to the Soi 2/Second Road area to visit a couple of bars and gogos on my "must see" list. First up was the Intira Bar, one of a cluster of little beer bars on the west side of Second Road directly across from the Big C mall. The girls were every bit as good looking as the website suggests. I was greeted by Jane, a stunner with a huge 10, 000 watt smile, beautiful long hair, and a nice pair of boobs propped up by an expertly engineered bra and dress: very difficult to maintain eye contact! Her English was poor so it was difficult to talk. We switched to playing games where she thrashed me at Connect 4 and the dice game. She even introduced me to her sister who, until a year earlier, had been her brother. They both laughed that they had the same boobs: she was right, the sister must have used a good plastic surgeon! I tried several times to find about about "take out" options for Jane but she was very evasive. Then she started to get quite pushy about buying more lady drinks or choosing another girl for lady drinks. I think this place is all about selling drinks and not much more. Recommended if you just want to sit and drink and talk to some hot friendly girls. Paid my bill and moved on.

Next stop was Classroom 2 on Soi 2 near Second Road. This place has a poor layout, there are many seats with obstructed views. The staff decided to seat me near the front door, miles from the main stage. Also the girls tend to dance facing towards the rear of the club so I sat there for about 15 minutes looking at the backs of the girls! I should have gotten up and picked a better seat but I wanted to find out how long it would take for someone to notice me. Finally a gogo girl wandered by and sat down beside me. She was quite plain looking but had a nice personality and good English skills. We talked and joked for quite a while about my problems with the place and she offered to go and fetch me a girl to my specifications! She did drag a couple of girls over but no chemistry at all. I was having no luck at all in this part of town so decided to hop a bus and go back to the Walking Street area.

There are a lot of gogos on Soi 13/4 so I hopped off the bus and headed up the street. First up was the Kitten Club. I popped my head in the door and the place looked nice. But the music was really blaring and I knew that conversation would be impossible. So I headed back out to the street.

Next up was Classroom. I liked this gogo a lot. The main room is quite compact and you can see all the girls from any seat in the house. The girls really "work the room", the dancers are making eye contact all the time and the girls who are off the stage are walking around trying to make friends. I was lucky enough to meet Jane, really cute and a real firecracker personality. She had her hands all over me when she was sitting with me. She also kept bringing her friends over to meet me and a couple of them sat down beside me and tried to engage me (I was concentrating on Jane). The bar owner was walking around the bar constantly so the girls and service staff are really on their toes. He even rang the bell and bought everyone in the place a drink. I would point to the girls that I thought were really gorgeous and Jane would offer to bring them over to meet me. But it was exhausting watching and listening to Jane, she was really wired and never stopped talking for a second. Still I would have happily barfined her or a half dozen other girls from this bar. Highly recommended!

Last stop of the evening was Misty’s. Again a really nice layout with a main central stage and lots of sexy girls. A couple of these girls were really aggressive and immediately joined me for a little sweet talk and a lot of groping. There was only one other guy in the bar and he didn’t want any company so I had the entire staff to myself. I have to say they had some real exotic looking girls in there with some unique looks, hairstyles, make-up, etc. If you are looking for a girl with a "different" appearance then I really recommend this place. I finally spotted the girl that I liked just as she headed up to the stage. She was so stunning that I thought she would ignore me but I flashed her a few smiles anyways. Sure enough as soon as she stepped off stage she came straight over and sat down. Her name is Gip and she is one of the best looking girls I’ve seen all week. We had a nice chat and I was able to check out all of her assets. Absolutely perfect from head to toe. I asked both her and the mamasan about take out options at Mistys. 600 barfine, 1000 ST, 2000 ST, and she starts work at 6 pm. Today is my last day in Pattaya and I think that Gip may be my last conquest.

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Benton Quest
10-18-07, 19:19
As I was recently enjoying a beer while a little honey worked on my dick, it dawned on me that there should be some economic link between the price of both brewskies and blow jobs. Here's my simple-minded math: A six pack of Singha will set you back about 180 baht and a decent BBBJCIM costs maybe 800B total or about 4.44 six packs. A good rule of thumb then might be that the value of a good BJ anywhere on the planet is about four and a half times the price of a six pack of the local beer. In the states, where a six of Budweiser can be had for about five and a half dollars, a good suckoff ought to set you back around 25 bucks. Pay any more and you are getting fucked, not sucked.

You might argue that the entire value of a woman at any given point in time is also four and a half six packs of beer but I'll leave that discussion for another day and another forum.

Benton Quest
10-18-07, 19:32
Is the My Friend You bar still in operation? Has anyone been recently?

L A Guy
10-18-07, 22:42
I was immediately joined by Jane

I was greeted by Jane

I was lucky enough to meet Jane

Her name is GipWow, 3 Janes from 3 bars in one day! Definitely barfine Gip, if for no other reason than the fact that her name isnt Jane - it could be an omen!

Opebo
10-19-07, 09:26
Is the My Friend You bar still in operation? Has anyone been recently?

Yes just the other day had BBBJ downstairs and BBFS upstairs there from a so-so looking 30ish. Terribly lacking in verve though. Anal promised below did not, alas, materialize upstairs.

Someone mentioned below that Beach Road is a bit better - it is true there are more girls out lately and less cops. We can only hope this lasts, but the fact that the number of girls has not returned to anywhere near the number of the good old days says to me they still fear the crackdown. Enjoy the respite while it lasts - I got a cute 23 year old new one down there a week ago. Great boomsing. It was the first time I'd seen an attractive new face on the beach in a while.

Benton Quest
10-19-07, 12:15
Reassuring that it's still in operation. Look forward to some good splooge shots there soon.

Thanks

It Travel
10-19-07, 12:43
First off, I'd like to say. The guys reporting that Pattaya has lost it's luster are either crazy or outright lying. I just got back from 18 days there and I can tell you. There are way more available women than men to take them. The place was simply packed with women, 7 days per week. There were veterans and new arrivals from the villages. I had read before I left that Beach Road was dead at night, it was an absolute lie. There were women everywhere.

Number 2. The worst thing about Pattaya is us. The farangs. I more than once ran into guys who, in the US or Western society could only be classified as total chumps, nerds, goofballs, the kind of kids who would be picked on at school. In Pattaya, due to the Thai people's non-confrontational nature, these guys had turned into absolutely loud, boorish, obnoxious bullies themselves.

I was eating at Tips restaurant in the morning and there was a drunk goofball farang talking at the top of his lungs to 2 Thai women he had brought along, bragging about how he'd been in school 30 years, how much money he had, etc. And peppering his conversation with occasionally shouts in bamboo English. Mind you, there were people eating in the restaurant. Yet he acted like he was the only person in the world. He was a real a-hole. Just so needy for attention and such a bully. Taking advantage of his host's good nature. If I was in the US, I would have removed him, pronto, from the restaurant immediately. I saw many other what could only be described as ogres, walking the streets of Pattay with super-model quality women. Guys, learn to dress, we farangs look like total stinky slobs out there. It's embarrasing.

I also saw lots and lots of guys, most in fact, with beautiful women, but too drunk to enjoy them. If the point is to relate to beautiful women, why be drunk all the time?

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I hope I can soon come to Pattaya! But these things are happening in Rio too. Specially in the (in)famous Meia Pataca (Bar) and at Help (Disco).
From talks I understand that these guys are mostly (not all of course) Americans. I agree and cant't understand the behaviour...

How can they nail them if they are so drunk? Sometimes I get drunk too, but only if I want, sometimes you have no lust to nail a girl, and you had a really nice dinner, smoking a cigar, perhaps with a nice girl with you, and I get alittle bit too much alchool... In any case she will be hardly nailed the morning after :D

IT


Just my two cents. Planning BKK and pattaya next year, but always with at least a six hole course in the room, but mostly I would like a nine hole, so I have to make some money before ;)

Allover
10-21-07, 05:51
I saw many other what could only be described as ogres, walking the streets of Pattay with super-model quality women.


They may be poor dressers but they are smart enough to hook up with a super-model.

FightingChicken
10-21-07, 20:29
The Hell Club is an unforgettable experience, every man should go there once.

Key Master
10-22-07, 02:33
First off, I'd like to say. The guys reporting that Pattaya has lost it's luster are either crazy or outright lying. I just got back from 18 days there and I can tell you. There are way more available women than men to take them. The place was simply packed with women, 7 days per week. There were veterans and new arrivals from the villages. I had read before I left that Beach Road was dead at night, it was an absolute lie. There were women everywhere.

Number 2. The worst thing about Pattaya is us. The farangs. I more than once ran into guys who, in the US or Western society could only be classified as total chumps, nerds, goofballs, the kind of kids who would be picked on at school. In Pattaya, due to the Thai people's non-confrontational nature, these guys had turned into absolutely loud, boorish, obnoxious bullies themselves.

I was eating at Tips restaurant in the morning and there was a drunk goofball farang talking at the top of his lungs to 2 Thai women he had brought along, bragging about how he'd been in school 30 years, how much money he had, etc. And peppering his conversation with occasionally shouts in bamboo English. Mind you, there were people eating in the restaurant. Yet he acted like he was the only person in the world. He was a real a-hole. Just so needy for attention and such a bully. Taking advantage of his host's good nature. If I was in the US, I would have removed him, pronto, from the restaurant immediately. I saw many other what could only be described as ogres, walking the streets of Pattay with super-model quality women. Guys, learn to dress, we farangs look like total stinky slobs out there. It's embarrasing.

I also saw lots and lots of guys, most in fact, with beautiful women, but too drunk to enjoy them. If the point is to relate to beautiful women, why be drunk all the time?

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

First off someone who is drunk usually is not in control in many ways. To me there are bad drunks from all demographics and it's not country dependent. It is sad that there are some real slobs and assholes walking around the P4P scene in Pattaya maybe more so than any other scene in SE Asia that I've been to. I actually don't agree that the majority of them are actually from the US and Western civilizations though and am not going to start off some war here. For a mongering destination to me Thailand has a real broad diversity of people visiting. I've been visiting Thailand on and off for the last 15 years. The farang term to me is stupid and used inappropriately most of the time.

I am not sure why one would want to call people out that they are crazy or lying about their opinion of the scene. Everyone has their own opinion and one is not likely to change that. Depending on how long someone has been visiting maybe they see changes that someone who hasn't been going to as long would never see. In my opinion, the growth of message boards in general has forever changed the scene of places like this besides the fact that one can post anything without fear of any real repercussion.

Have It
10-22-07, 09:16
True - Pattaya is very tiresome after a while. That is why 2 weeks is my absolute maximum when I go there.

I try my best to play golf everyday and to get some wholesome fresh-air and get out into the countryside. I usually beach it in Jomtien or Naklua and avoid the filth of South Pattaya beach. I try to keep out the girly bars or go-go's during the day, and leave my mongering till night-time, when anywhere in the world looks better under a cloak or darkness and some well placed neon. I always make sure I travel with close mates so that I can guarantee good company.

I am not being disrespectful, I am sure there are many very nice people who contribute to this forum, and I have randomly met some great people on my P4P adventures, but I would say that in Pattaya, of the two times I went by myself, the kind of random chats or people I would cross paths with were pretty dire. Ordinarily it would eventuate that I'd be forced to finish off my beer and be on my way, before I had to listen to any more fabricated stories or plain and simple BS.

There are some shocking examples of human beings sullying the streets of Pattaya and lets not just look at Americans or Brits as there are misfits the world over who choose to visit this playground. Prostitution is magnetic in it's pull for lesser desirables the world over.

However, there is one positive thing to gain from this state of affairs. Can you imagine the amount of absolute freaks that these girls have to put up with? Can you imagine some of the uncomfortable scenarios or intimidating situations they have experienced? If you can manage to maintain a certain level of respect and decency, it is spotted by the girls very quickly and in turn they will be attracted to you and you will be better treated. It just takes a good smile and a few manners. You don't have to pay over the odds for this kind of treatment, just be polite, try being hygeinic and know how to spot the TG BS too and you'll have a great time.
The drunk factor is an unforunate spill over from western culture, where usually a holiday means getting blind drunk. The world over has more bad drunks than it does good ones. I have noticed more kids coming to Pattaya from the UK as the world gets smaller and the pound stays strong. Don't get me wrong, it would have been great fun to visit Pattaya as an 18 or 19 year old, and as it was my first time was 28 yrs old, so not over the hill, but again my friends would not have been loutish and obnoxious, which again is increasingly the case as time passes and yob culture escalates.

I think Pattaya is probably on a path to self destruction eventually, but then again, people have been saying that for years haven't they? And it continues to attract and repel at similar levels.

I love Pattaya for many reasons but maybe as I get more world weary it continues to throw up questions which inevitably have negative sentiment attached to the answer.

It also appears that Yaba is being replaced as the drug of choice by ICE. If you thought that yaba has an adverse affect on Thai girls or Katoeys or even the local Thai's who indulge in it, for pertaining to violence, then just watch the heightened levels of violence as ICE takes a hold.

But who am I to offer my opinions? After all is said and done, I pay for sex and with a beautiful girlfriend and an inability to remain unerringly faithful to her, then that makes me a bit of an arsehole too does it not?

I am a seasoned monger, certianly no angel, very keen golfer, peace loving Asia addict, drugs counselor and a Brit - aged 33, who desparately hopes that Pattaya can continue to provide the good souls with good times because you deserve them.

As for the rest...

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Peterterb
10-23-07, 10:14
First Trip to Pattaya – Day 6 and Final Thoughts A Bad Date and a Pap Smear

My "No Boom Boom" policy on Day 5 worked just fine, had a great nights sleep and now my 50 year old body was ready to get back in the game.

For my last day in paradise the plan was to find a cute girl early in the day and spend the entire day and evening with her. Maybe some bowling, a little shopping, a nice dinner, and some boom boom. There were lots of candidates but I thought I would go back to Tahitian Queen 1 to see Pam (the girl I had missed earlier in the week) and see if she was interested. I got there at 2pm and Pam was there but she was on stage. I knew this because the entire service staff recognized me and rushed over to tell me. It doesn’t take much to make a lasting impression on the staff in a gogo!

While I was waiting for Pam a real cutie named Ming slid in to the seat beside me. Ming looked really good so I invited her to stay. A few minutes later Pam comes over and she was very happy that I remembered her and had returned to see her. It turns out that Pam and Ming are good friends so they were happy to share me.

Pam could barely talk and I realized that she had a bad sore throat. In fact she told me that the sore throat was the reason she missed me earlier, she had been at the doctor. Then more bad news: Pam was on her period and would be unable to take care of me. I told them about my plan for a full-day date and Pam suggested that I choose Ming as my "girlfriend". I sat and chatted with Ming to see if she was girlfriend material. Ming said she liked my proposal and was willing and eager to go with me. So I barfined her and that’s when the problems started.

We get to the bowling alley and she tells me she doesn’t like bowling. Okay how about a movie? Yes but only a Thai movie, she said. Uh oh. These are big red flags and I realized that I may have just barfined a psycho princess.

I thought that I better get some clarification on our "arrangement". I asked her how much this "medium time" date was going to cost me (I had told her she would be free to go no later than midnight). She says 2500 baht and I told her that we had agreed to 1500. More pouting. I convinced her to go to see the American movie "The Kingdom". She grudgingly agreed.

I realized at this point that this girl needed a serious attitude adjustment. So I asked her if she would like to come with me to Bangkok for 3 days (the next stop in my Thai vacation). I really didn’t have any intention to bring her with me but I figured I could always find an excuse to drop her later on. And I figured this offer would either fix her attitude fast or end this bad date quickly. We went in to watch the movie.

After the movie she started to ask/demand the terms for our trip to Bangkok. She told me I would pay 5 days barfine for our 3 day trip. She asked me where we would be staying in Bangkok. She asked me if I was going to take her shopping in Bangkok. More red flags.

We get to the hotel restaurant and order dinner. I know you guys are thinking I’m an idiot for hanging in there this long but I still wanted to see how this disaster was going to end. I always choose the easy going, low maintenance girls, I never find myself in the company of a real psycho girl, and so I was thoroughly entertained by all of this. I knew it was going to cost me a lot of baht and end in bad sex or no sex but it was still early (6 pm), plenty of time to get a new girl if this crashed and burned. I am a very non-confrontational guy so I was looking for a low drama way to end the date, and I am also fortunate in that I can afford to pay for a really bad date.

During dinner there were a few more huge red flags. She told me a story about her ex-boyfriend who lives in England and who sent her 20, 000 baht per month until he found another girl. Then a story about her sister who works as a fashion runway model and lives in London. Then she told me that her favorite activity is to go to the disco in Pattaya. Then she started sending and receiving a series of text messages on her cellphone so I knew she was already planning her post-date evening!

She was getting really anxious to go up to the room. I could tell she just wanted to get it over with and then go to the disco and spend my money.

We get up to the room and she clarifies the terms of our arrangement for me, as follows: She showers. Then I shower. Then we fuck. In 45 minutes. Then I pay and she leaves.

I made my counter offer: You leave now. She accepted.

She starts to put her clothes on and I slowly open my wallet and pull out a 500 baht note. I knew this would make her flip out. She starts yapping not enough, mamasan will be mad, she will send over "baby" (I think she meant the bouncer) to straighten me out.

So I asked her if she would go away for 1000 baht. She nodded yes. I handed her the cash and she stomped out. Hey these things happen, but they rarely happen to me, and I enjoyed the drama.

Okay time to come up with Plan B. I didn’t want my fantastic holiday in Pattaya to end so badly. It was only 7 pm so plenty of time to find a new date.

Off to Walking Street. Checked out a few gogos and finally wandered into Living Dolls. I sat down and looked up at the gogo girl who was working the pole right beside me. She had a gorgeous body, exotic eyes, and some nice big fake titties. Things were looking up already! She flashed me a huge, friendly smile and I knew I was back in the game.

When the song ended she plopped down in the seat next to me, spread her sexy legs across my lap, looked down and giggled when she noticed that she hadn’t stowed her tits back in her bra, and asked me if I would help her put them back where they belong. No problem, ma’am! This was Pap, an exotic mixed Vietnamese/Thai girl. She told me she was 31 although she looked a little older. She had a great personality, good English skills, kept me laughing the whole time I was there. Lots of kissing and groping. I told her my sad story about Ming and she promised me that she would make me a happy man if I barfined her. Pap was just what I needed to end my Pattaya adventure. I barfined her and we headed back to the hotel.

She was absolutely great in the room. Very compliant, very playful, took a shower together where we got me all warmed up. Onto the bed for some very sexy massage and finally a tremendous BJ. My "no boom boom" day had apparently topped up my tanks as I blew a massive load all over her mouth, chest, and hair. She smeared the goo around a bit then went into the washroom to clean up. She stayed for a while to cuddle and talk and she left me a happy, contented man.

My Final Thoughts on Pattaya

This has been the most fantastic 6 days of my life. I have not felt this relaxed, happy, sexy, pampered in my life. I had a smile on my face from the moment I woke up in the morning till I went to bed. The girls are absolutely fantastic. And I am talking about beach girls, bar girls, gogo girls, massage girls, even the service girls, all are sweet and sexy and available. My one bad experience with Ming was just one of those things that happens and doesn’t bother me in the least.

Many thanks to all the people who helped me to plan my holiday by posting reports in this and other websites. I know that writing reports is a lot of work so I really appreciate those who made the effort. Because of all of your detailed reports I knew in advance which places I wanted to visit and what to expect when I got there.

It doesn’t cost a ton of money to have a great time in Pattaya. I paid $40/day for a great hotel, $20/day for meals, $30/day for my drinks and ladydrinks, $3/day for transportation on the baht bus, $3/day for internet, $20/day for barfines, and $50/day for my dates. $160 per day times 6 days equals roughly $1000.

A few specific recommendations for those who are planning a visit:

Whitehouse Condotel is a great hotel, the standard room (1200baht) was just great and the staff deliver 5-star service. It is so girl friendly that the staff would tease me each night when I brought back a different lady. Even the housekeeping staff would come in to clean the room, wink at me, and ask "Lady sleeping? "

Big C Mall is a nice spot, lots of good restaurants, good shopping, air conditioned. My best girl Sa and I especially enjoyed MK Restaurant where you cook your own "hot pot" dinner. Good bonding experience when you’re trying to build a relationship.

Pattaya Park waterpark. Sa absolutely loved our day here. And so did I.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Craig Mellow
10-24-07, 22:03
First Trip to Pattaya – Day 6 and Final Thoughts A Bad Date and a Pap SmearFirst of all, Many thanks for your patience in writing those long and detailed reports. While reading your reports I felt like I was living those moments as if I were you. They are so real and complete in detail. People mostly use the forum and gain but very few repay the forum by posting such excellent reports. Appreciate it mate. Planning to visit the place in a month or two myself. Reports like these are the ones which helps us fellow mongers on where, how, when, why, etc.. of the mongering world.

Cheers,

Craig.

Boogyman1
10-26-07, 15:53
Yes, I should have written sooner after the trip to Pattaya (5.. 13. 10. 2007), but just couldn't find time for it. But now, after reading those wonderful reports by Peterterb, I feel obliged. So:

I had been in Pattaya some 10 years ago, and it was different now. But also the same. First, I was very happy about the timing of the trip: not that many western men around in October, and lots of girls. Paradise! (And if it is always as good, then it really is paradise.)

In go-gos girls had less clothes than previously. In many places nothing at all, and some interesting lesbian style soap-shows were featured. I liked those "show-go-gos". In a couple of places two girls were actually licking each other. What a feast for eye!

In beer bars BF was 500 bahts (in at least one bar only 300), in go-gos 1 000 bahts (do I remember it right? ) A night with a girl was another 1 000 bahts. So, usually some 35. 40 € per night in all. Considering the good quality of the girls, I think it was OK. Beer in bars and go-gos from 35 bahts to 100+ (usually 75 max, but in one horrible go-go with Russian girls the prices were sky high). As always I ended up paying too much, but what can I do to my kind heart?

My (short) experience was that the girl-market was at its' best at about 7. 10 o'clock PM. I found that it was no use wandering around after midnight on the walking street. The scene won't get any better (but worse. To whom it may concern: Ladyboys seem to be hunting at nigt time, though.)

I stayed at Baiyoke-hotel and my friend at Beverly Plaza. Both quite near to the south Pattaya hot spots. Beverly was more attractive as a surroundings, with a nice pool connected to the bar / restaurant. Both of them can be recommended, if one is not looking for luxury. It was some 200 € a week. In Beverly the hotel charged 300 bahts per visiting girl per night, in Baiyoke it was free. Due to a special "excellent double room" order.

Big minus: the girls don't speak English! It was difficoult to find somebody to talk with at all. For me sex without any (prior) conversation, is not-so-satisfying. Otherwise it was quite OK with the girls: intense kissing, wet in the right place and tender carressing all through the night afterwards. Some of them were a little bit shy, but very GFE, all of them. Just what I was looking for. In fact I noticed once again, that it is not wise to go after the prettiest faces. The more ordinary looking ladies, perhaps with more mature age, too, seems to be guaranteeing better attitude. The pretty ones are often used to getting away with just that pretty face, and with little action.

Only two of the 9 girls we two guys had, tried to run after the deed was done. One did, and one was turned right back by my vigorous sermon about good bar-girl behavior. The one that did run was actually from Vietnam – or, that was what she said. There was also usually no need to negotiate about the price. 1 000 € per night seemed to be the fixed rate. Maybe somebody can get it cheaper, though. We didn't really try.

A wish: When in a go-go, please do donate 20 baht or so for a good dance action! We seemed to be the only ones to do that, and we noticed that it really gave some extra spirit for the girls – and it is a fair thing to do. If a good atmosphere in a bar costs some 100 bahts or so per night, I think it pays off to do it!

All in all, Pattaya is growing fast, but it has maintained its’ charm. Unlike in most other countries, you don’t feel that somebody is all the time trying to cheat on you and take ALL your money – some money, yes, but for a good reason. Business seems to be mostly fair. I will be back. But can somebody tell me how to find girls who speak at least some English?

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Lover Boy #2
10-27-07, 05:04
There was also usually no need to negotiate about the price. 1 000 € per night seemed to be the fixed rate. Maybe somebody can get it cheaper, though. We didn't really try.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

I know it was a typo, but gave me a moment to ponder.......if we dont negotiate it probably will be 1000 € per night at some point. Just joking........great report!!

Wamlies
10-27-07, 22:39
I stumbled accross this the other night, could be a good service for those who suspect they're GF, but only if he provides the service he says he will, which I'm sure he will.

Randy4711
10-28-07, 23:55
Not easy to find wi-fi hotels in Pattaya, but i found this one on the web.
I read, four reviews and it sounded good, so will try it in November on my next trip.

http://www.soichaiyapoon.com/facilities.phpThe staff there is great. Note that Wifi is not in every room. You can use their 2 laptops for free though. I had a Superior room for 5 or 6 nights there. Good room, cleaning every day.

However, the warm water stopped working, and the owner didn't do anything, after making promises 2 times. I voted with my feet... (took room in Jasmine Mansion on Soi Buakhow / Soi L K Metro, better and Wifi in every room).

Mr_Hoffy
10-30-07, 06:37
I think these investigation services are just fake. If you send money to the girl and she still lives in Pattaya then there is 100 percent change she'll still be working in a bar. A Thai girl working in Pattaya is doing so primarily for her immediate family and not directly for herself. Any idle time she has will be used to make more money for her family. If you can track where she lives then you know what she is doing. If she's living in Isan then she's most likely not working in a bar. What can these investigative services do? All then can do is to try to track down where she is staying and maybe find out where she works by following her. Maybe they can find out her marital status or if her family was in debt.

I've told bar girls many times that if a Farang is serious he'll give you a big diamond ring and plan to get married or arrange for a visa. Unless he does this, he's just playing both sides of the fence with multiple girls. I've told them don't get your hopes too high. He may even be married for all you know.


I stumbled accross this the other night, could be a good service for those who suspect they're GF, but only if he provides the service he says he will, which I'm sure he will.

Garni
10-31-07, 08:36
Corrections: barfine in a go-go bar in Pattaya is 600 Baht

In a open bar between 200 and 300 Baht

Shorttime cost 500-700 Baht

Longtime 1000 Baht

The Bahtbus run for 10 baht, long ways 20 Baht

Some Hotels charge for ladys, check it out www.der-einsatzplan. De

Garni

Jimmy Red Cab
10-31-07, 15:36
Corrections: barfine in a go-go bar in Pattaya is 600 Baht

In a open bar between 200 and 300 Baht

Shorttime cost 500-700 Baht

Longtime 1000 Baht

The Bahtbus run for 10 baht, long ways 20 Baht

Some Hotels charge for ladys, check it out www.der-einsatzplan. De

Garni

Most Go-Go girls will want more than 1000 baht LT, that is if they are willing to do LT.

Timpani
10-31-07, 19:59
I have read everything in this thread - many thanks to all the contributors! However, some questions remain about how things work in Pattaya:

Is a girl by default willing to do DFK, or must this, generally, be negotiated before barfining her? What about more saucy things? Say you want the girl to give jo a rimjob? Is this something you have to make sure before barfining her? Any differences between gogo girls and bar girls?

Once you have barfined a girl, can you take her straight to your hotel or will she, in general, want you to take her clubhopping pr something else first?

What are your impressions of the short time rooms available at bars and clubs? How common are they? Do you like using them or do you prefer taking the girl back to your hotel? Why?

How long is a short-time session in general? Or does this also have to be negotiated beforehand?

How important is the girl's language skills for your experience with her? I don't know any Thai. Is it crucial to pick a girl with decent English skills?

If your hotel has a guestfriendly policy, will the girl, in general, be able to join you at the breakfast buffé or will you have to pay for her?

Say you're at a gogo club, with your eyes on a sexy dancer trying to make sure she comes to you after she's finished dancing. Another not-so-desireable girlcomes up and sit nexts to you trying to start a conversation with you, what is the most polite but efficient way of getting rid of her?

When a gogo dancer comes and joins you at your table for the first time, what would a typical conversation sound like? What would she ask you? Are you expected to lead the conversation or will she? Any differences between gogo girls and bar girls?

Have you been in Pattaya during the high season? Any tips on surviving the crowdedness? Good times of the day to visit certain streets or places? Good times to avoid certain streets or places?

What are the chances of having your camera inspected by customs on departure?

Tiger 888
11-01-07, 04:52
Most Go-Go girls will want more than 1000 baht LT, that is if they are willing to do LT.To my experience, beer bar girls go LT for 1000 without problem, but in Gogos it is more likely to be 1500.

D B John
11-01-07, 05:21
To my experience, beer bar girls go LT for 1000 without problem, but in Gogos it is more likely to be 1500.Go Go or beer bar...give her 1000 baht for a long time and thank her with a smile for spending some time with you. Pay for a meal or two and a few drinks and send her on her way. If she kicks up any dust just stay cool and hold the door open for her. The average daily salary in Thailand is less than $6.00 dollars American, 1000 baht ($30) is a lot of money. Man up guys and stop falling for the angry bargirl routine.

Angeles City P.I. is great for bargain hunters.

Happy Hunting DBJOHN

Key Master
11-01-07, 07:52
I have read everything in this thread - many thanks to all the contributors! However, some questions remain about how things work in Pattaya:

Say you're at a gogo club, with your eyes on a sexy dancer trying to make sure she comes to you after she's finished dancing.


I'll answer this one because it's not always so obvious to some. You normally don't have to wait for someone to finish dancing. You can call them down off the stage. For the rest of your questions, you might have to reread the Pattaya section and all the other sections like Reports of Distinction to find your answers. You might have read too fast because a lot of information you are looking for is already there.

Allover
11-01-07, 08:30
I'll answer this one because it's not always so obvious to some. You normally don't have to wait for someone to finish dancing. You can call them down off the stage.

You can call them off the stage yourself or ask a waitress to do it for you.

I used to wait for a dancer to make eye contact or smile at me before calling her over. That takes too much time and often the girl I like doesn't smile or show interest in me. I ask a mamasan or waitress if I can buy the girl a drink. They always bring her over (usually immediately but sometimes after she finishes a song or her dance shift). If there is good karma, I go for it. You'd be surprised how many girls look uninterested on stage but warm up after they start talking to you.

Armj7
11-01-07, 13:18
Hi,

I will be making my first visit to Pattaya at the end of the month and am vacillating between Secrets hotel and Sabai Inn. I like the quality of Sabai Inn but preferably for my first visit I want to be within walking distance of the main action areas. From Sabai it's a 10 minute Baht Bus to the main area?

Any opinions? I have the 750baht room at secrets. It is ok? I did not like the look of the room online (size wise and the toilets were a bit unappealing). But there appear not to be many options left for places in that area.

All opinions, experiences and recommendations are most welcome

Totobiscot
11-01-07, 14:14
Hi guys,

I went out long time with a girl named Luck working at Club Boesche. Does anyone knows her? Has anyone seen her lately? Does anyone have sex experience with her before? I want to know how she was?

Please get back

Ishtar2
11-01-07, 16:16
Armj7,

I just got back from a stay at Secrets. 950 Baht per night for their "best" room. The location is great if you wish to be next to Walking Street. The hotel is good with free WiFi and in room safe. Staff was good and really no complaints. I'll be back there in January.

Ishtar

Blunderer
11-01-07, 16:43
i have read everything in this thread - many thanks to all the contributors! however, some questions remain about how things work in pattaya:

is a girl by default willing to do dfk, or must this, generally, be negotiated before barfining her? what about more saucy things? say you want the girl to give jo a rimjob? is this something you have to make sure before barfining her?


i've never been with a girl who won't do dfk - in fact, often, you can start dfk before you barfine (in the gogos).

bj/bbbj are worth checking (but bbbj is pretty standard in my experience). anything else would require specific negotiation (and probably related price hikes).




any differences between gogo girls and bar girls?


opinions vary. the correct answer is 'no' :)



once you have barfined a girl, can you take her straight to your hotel or will she, in general, want you to take her clubhopping pr something else first?


haha, up to you. a girl you've barfined generally isn't looking to romanced if that is what you mean. straight back to hotel is fine. generally, i ask if she is hungry/wants a drink on the way home. if it is a drink, off to the 7/11 and drink it in the room/put the telly on/have a chat.



what are your impressions of the short time rooms available at bars and clubs? how common are they? do you like using them or do you prefer taking the girl back to your hotel? why?


never used one, the reported standards of cleanliness leave something to be desired. the idea just doesn't appeal to me.



how long is a short-time session in general? or does this also have to be negotiated beforehand?


normally it'd be one shot/a couple of hours. it isn't really specific. if you are looking for a specific amount of time or more than one shot, negotiate it.



how important is the girl's language skills for your experience with her? i don't know any thai. is it crucial to pick a girl with decent english skills?


no one can ever answer this for you. i prefer a bit of english, some guys couldn't give a stale monkey poo.



if your hotel has a guestfriendly policy, will the girl, in general, be able to join you at the breakfast buffé or will you have to pay for her?


if you've paid the double rate, generally breakfast will be included. single rate in double room = 1 breakfast. ask at check in if your 'friend' can join you for breakfast and how much? generally this is a complete non issue as bargirls seem to live on gmt rather than thai time, so breakfast is mid afternoon.



say you're at a gogo club, with your eyes on a sexy dancer trying to make sure she comes to you after she's finished dancing. another not-so-desireable girlcomes up and sit nexts to you trying to start a conversation with you, what is the most polite but efficient way of getting rid of her?


if it is clear that she isn't going to get money/you aren't interested, she'll generally take the hint and try and find a more prosperous tree to rub against. generally, tell her you like 'that girl' over there and ask her to help, or, if you don't see anyone you like, leave the bar altogether.



when a gogo dancer comes and joins you at your table for the first time, what would a typical conversation sound like? what would she ask you? are you expected to lead the conversation or will she? any differences between gogo girls and bar girls?


hello. what your name? where you come from? you take me?

after that, use your brain, they are human beings. do you expect other human beings to lead the conversation or for you to do it? answer that and you have your answer.

no difference whatsoever.


have you been in pattaya during the high season? any tips on surviving the crowdedness? good times of the day to visit certain streets or places? good times to avoid certain streets or places?


no idea. hide/eat/read/sleep during day. run the gauntlet at night... it is pretty much all there is to do in pattaya imho.



what are the chances of having your camera inspected by customs on departure?

somewhere between almost zero and infinitesimal. that being said, you'd be taking a small risk - although unless they found something really dodgy stuff (like the border guard's sister, mother and wife doing some sort of combined lesbian/bestiality/rep001fest) on there, i doubt they'd care.

from what i've read here, the americans can be cunts if they find it on your camera, and they are likely to look. in any event, you are more likely to create troubles for yourself on the way into a country than on the way out of one.

i tend to upload them to a private area on the internet somewhere, then delete them. if this is problematic for you, i suggest going to an internet cafe, and burning them all to a cd/dvd. if you want to be doubly safe, make a big password protected zip, then burn that to a cd/dvd. mail the cd/dvd to yourself back home.

Traveller08
11-01-07, 17:41
I read in another message board that there is currently a police crackdown on Gogo Bars is going on.

Is it really true that currently the girls on stage in the Gogo bars have to wear at least a bikini - no fully nude girls anymore?

Second rumor says that all tourists will have to carry their Passport in Original all the times with them - copies will not be accepted any more.

I cannot beleave both.

Opebo
11-01-07, 17:58
What are your impressions of the short time rooms available at bars and clubs? How common are they? Do you like using them or do you prefer taking the girl back to your hotel? Why?

I always use a short-time room and recommend never taking any girls to the hotel at which you sleep. This eliminates the possibility of all sorts of problems which stem from the girl knowing where you are to be found, and potentially who you are.

Many short time places in the 100-250 baht range are quite grungy, which I don't mind, but some are very clean. If you are particular you can spend a bit more and find fancier ones which are usually clean. Lastly don't bring much money with you whenever you pick up a girl in Thailand (I take at most 1,500-2,000 baht when I go out for an evening), so that you can afford it if it gets stolen. Be careful in short time rooms as sometimes the girl will have an accomplice among the staff who waits outside to be passed money from your wallet. Still, this is better than giving her access to your primary residence.

EDIT: Sorry I was referring to rooms available in short-time hotels. My experience with short time rooms in bars, mostly in Soi Six, has always been good - in most places you can expect (or bargain for) the use of the room to be included in the barfine. Quality is usually good and rooms are generally clean.

Timpani
11-01-07, 20:13
After that, use your brain, they are human beings. Do you expect other human beings to lead the conversation or for you to do it? Answer that and you have your answer.I was probaby a bit unclear. What I meant was, are you the one that has too lead the conversation into the area of sex or will she?

Thanks for your answers.

Have It
11-02-07, 06:46
Always makes me laugh a lot.

Asian Flava
11-02-07, 20:24
Hey Guys

Thanks for all great reports here. I'm based in the UAE but am planning a holiday to Thailand over Christmas and New Year's. Was thinking of splitting my time between BKK and Pattaya. I've had some brief experiences in BKK before I had discovered this site, so looking forward to fully experiencing it now having RTFF. RODs are great. I have been unable to find any info on the Penthouse Hotel in this forum. Looks great on the website but wondering if any one can give their experiences or what they've heard. I have to use a proxy to access this site in the UAE and for some reason I can't always access all the features/functions on a web page. So I am unable to use the search function for the threads. So if anyone can share some info on this hotel and the Kitty Club attached to it that would be much appreciated.

Thanks.

AF

M P Lurker
11-03-07, 06:52
I was probaby a bit unclear. What I meant was, are you the one that has too lead the conversation into the area of sex or will she?

Thanks for your answers.
Buy her and yourself a couple of Tequilas (the Thai ones are a bit sweeter than normal) to loosen you both up and take the edge off the shyness. Some girls can be shy about sex talk. Others are wayward.

Some bar-girls could be gyrating their crotch against you so as to leave you in doubt at all. Others may be demure.

Anyway you can ask in a very subtle way like: "Would you like to go with me tonight?" or "You sleep in my hotel tonight?", or "Can I bar-fine you now?". This is my style. I don't ask explicit things usually. But if you sense she is not shy you can ask "does she do BBBJ?", etc. after establishing that she would like to go with you.

If you are slow, some girls may raise the sex subject first. I'm generally not keen on girls that are pushy though.

Don't be too concerned about all this even if you are a newbie. Just get into the bar and go with the flow a little.
But be aware that customers must compete for the best girls at times. You may loose out to someone who walks into the bar and agressively bar-fines the girl immediately. So don't work too slowly when potentially several guys may be interested in the same girl. On the other hand if you are too fast, you may make the wrong choice.

Champs1000
11-03-07, 07:37
Flew in from Phuket and did the low budget thing to get to Pattaya. Took the free airport shuttle to the buss station and then nice air condition buss ride to Pattaya (106b) and then from the Pattaya buss station took one of those blue bath busses to my hotel direct all by myself (200b) total cost 306b and total time 3 hours, not bad for a newbie.

Ok Pattaya what a city. (For mongering that is LOL) It is so much in you face over there. You must see it to believe it. 10 girls for every guy. Really. What a city.

The scuba in Pattaya is not that great visibility wise. The wreck diving is very good and I did 6 days of diving when I was there. Needed a break from the sex?

Pattaya has been reviewed over and over again so I will give you my impressions of what I saw and my experience in the different clubs I went to.

I was staying at the "Sawadee Sea View" hotel on soi 10. Small but nice budget hotel but in the quiet part of Pattaya if there is such a thing. I got a deluxe room in the new wing on the net at 680b/night. Now I could get a better rate from a places in North Pattaya or in a places between 2nd and 3rd road but for a hotel close to beach road and walking distance from walking street, this was good and no guest fees even when I took back 2 ladies at the same time.

Beach road is rising back from the ashes. Lots of girls around for the taking at any time of day. I did not see anything interesting out there so did not partake but the 500b ST is still the norm. (I asked).

I had my first experience in a soapy at the Sabai Body Massage place on Soi 2 and 2 road right beside the Big C. It was an interesting experience. Chose #199 from the fish bowl. I thing my experience was so-so because the girl was very mechanical. No fun or extra gestures. Did the usual sequence: bath, HJ, body slide, wash again, sex. But in my time in Thailand I have hade much better. I will have to try it again maybe in Bangkok.

Soi 6 is where my Dive boat provider was situated. Over 40 bars there with girls standing outside trying to get you in. Way to aggressive and in your face for me But if you are into this feeding frenzy type of seen. Be aware of the Ladyboys lurking around. I did not go there at night.

Found a great pharmacy on Soi 2 and 3rd road. This place was huge. If you find yourself having to by some medicine this is where you can get the best prices. One negative thing they do not carry generic Viagra or Ciallis? . Found a place on soi 2 and 2nd road for that (300b for 4 pills of generic Viagra)

Apart from the scuba diving, most of my time was spent between 3 places. World Wide A go-go, The Beer bars on soi 10 and 2nd road and walking street

World Wide a go-go on beach road between soi 7 and 8:

-Very good place, standard layout with a center stage with bar stool around it plus leather seating on the walls on eater side. Girls are ok looking no real stunners but the girls are very friendly in an authentic kind of a way, not forced. I found that refreshing. The shows there are a good break and half way decent, Specially the girl with the hot wax dripping all over her. That was hot. Took 2 different girls from there. Good service. Bar fine is 500b plus was quoted 1000b ST, 2000 LT.

On soi 10 and 2nd road there are a bunch of beer bars. Best happy hour around, you can get a tiger beer before 6pm at 35b and a rum and coke at 50b. That’s a good price. I always stopped there before I went for dinner. I found 1 nice looking girl there that I took back to my hotel (BF 300b, 700b ST) but in general the girls working there where very average. This one girl I BF was ok in the sack but would not take her again even at those prices.

Now the crown jewel of Pattaya: Walking Street

You must see it to believe it. Nice bars, go-go’s, discos and restaurants. I could not visit every place when I was there but this I what I saw and did there.

-Polo entertainment complex: The girls where to aggressive for me and the layout of the club was standard. For the newbie’s the only attraction was that the Girls are outside on the steps waiting for you to come in. Also went in the European girl bar. What a rip off, 220b for a beer, WTF. Got out of there fast.

-Peppermint: Nice bar but girls when I was there where average

-Catz a go-go: Small place and nothing special pass. .

-Club Boeshe: Now I had read about this place but one I got in I was so disappointed. It’s a small place and the girls where ok looking but nothing to exceptional. The Jacuzzi in the back is a nice touch but with 1 inch of water in it not much bubbles. Sorry you guys. Pass

-Happy a go-go: Nice place again but nothing special. Is it me? 1 drink and out..Caribbean Queen: Small place and for me not to friendly. The 2 for 1 coupon I liked that.

-Angel Witch: Ok now you’re taking. That's a go-go bar to talk about. Girls are very good looking and the shows are great. Finally a show that is something else then 2 girls licking themselves. Dance numbers artsy stuff. It was great. With the shows the girls have a lot of time of the stage so they can sit with you and talk. BF 2 girls out of this place. BF 600b and was quoted 1000 ST and 2000 LT. The girls where great no clock watching there my friends. They made sure I was 100% satisfied. I recommend it.

-What’s up a go-go (right beside Angle Witch): finally 2 good clubs in a row. This place was fun. It’s got the same layout then club Boeshe but much better lighting and the girls are just having fun. They are dancing on the sofas, whipping themselves with a rubber thing (that was funny). The Jacuzzi is full and they have the soap thing going on that is very hot. Oh yeah I forgot the stage, 10 girls at all times. I loved this place. First time I got there was attached and molested by 2 girls (#17 Lek and #19 Noy). They did not ask me anything but sat on my lap and started to play with me, grabbing my dick and kissing me. How can I refuse? Then they tell me they are friends and like to fuck each other "not shy". Ok BF 600b quoted ST 1000, LT 2000 each. Ok what the hell. Off we go. What a night my friends. I had trouble walking the next morning. They did me, each other, 3 some and Noy woke me up at 3 am and told me to fuck her hard right now. I took those 2 girls, 3 nights I a row. I had to take a day off sex and diving after that I was wiped out. I highly recommend it.

All and all it was a great 10 days. I think I am going to move here. What are you kidding me. I have had better sex in Thailand in the last 24 days than all of the last 5 years back home and all of that for the price of a 3 day ski weekend.

Now back to Bangkok for my last 4 nights and my final stay I will be staying at the Livingstone Boutique hotel. See part 4 in the Bangkok tread and my specific insight of the hotel in Giotto’s tread.

Have a good one.

Champs1000

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Jelly37
11-03-07, 14:14
Hey Guys

I have been unable to find any info on the Penthouse Hotel in this forum. Looks great on the website but wondering if any one can give their experiences or what they've heard.

AfI've never stayed there (so you can discredit my opinion immediately). But I chose not to stay there because I had heard unflattering experiences from friends, and similar opinions from others who have written in about the Penthouse Hotel. The main complaints were that the rooms were rather dirty, with roaches in them. I prefer my sleaze a little cleaner, please. But since I haven't stayed there, feel free to tell me to STFU.

I've been to the Kitten Club several times. Rather disappointing IMHO, regarding the physical beauty of the girls there. Very nice personality, but rather unattractive physically.

Don't go one bar further, Jupiter. It used to be one of my favorite bars on holidays or elections when nearly all other go-gos were closed. It would often be open then, but not serve alcohol. In the late 90's it would stay open past "closing time" of 3:00 am when all the other bars closed (convenient when you arrived at Bangkok at midnight). But the bottom line is, some time in the past year Jupiter converted to a boy bar unfortunately.

So that strip of Penthouse hotel, Kitten Club, and Jupiter are not on my circuit.

Bob Down
11-03-07, 14:40
My first experience in a Thai bar was sitting down and having half a beer, before a girl can up and sat down next to me. Said "what is your name", "where did you come from" and " lets go boom boom". While rubbing my leg.

In the Philippines you can ask a girl if she is a one holer, two holer or a three holer. But sadly I haven't worked out a way to ask a thai girl this. If you say this to a Thai girl you may or may not need to explain yourself to her. It may depend on how good her english skills are.

I say just be yourself and enjoy.

Armj7
11-03-07, 19:53
Penthouse Hotel

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Hey Guys

Thanks for all great reports here. I'm based in the UAE but am planning a holiday to Thailand over Christmas and New Year's. Was thinking.

Hey Asian Flava, I was looking at staying at this hotel on my maiden trip to LOS and Pattaya but if you search penthouse hotel (look at tripadvisor) you will get reviews and they are not good (roach problem etc among others). And a lot of old hands also tend not to want to live in the centre of the action but slighly offskirts. I choose to live in then centre since its my maiden trip (no pun intended).

Hope this helps

Traveling1
11-04-07, 01:28
Hey Asain Flava

Just thought I would let you know. I stayed at the penthouse in June of 06. I enjoyed it. My room was clean, and I did not see any roaches. I will be back over New Years.

Andix
11-04-07, 03:54
In September I went to Pattaya with my GF and we wanted to go to Hollywood Disco (in Pattaya) a place we enjoyed a lot in the past. We discovered with surprise that it was closed.

Does anyone know what happened here ? Someone told me that it will reopen before the end of the year in another location in Pattaya.
Does anyone have some more details about this ?

Kool Katca
11-04-07, 08:23
I am considering staying at the Grand Hotel as it is reasonably piced and very close to Walking St. I Would like comments on this hotel.

Frimu
11-04-07, 14:28
Flew in from Phuket and did the low budget thing to get to Pattaya. Took the free airport shuttle to the buss station and then nice air condition buss ride to Pattaya (106b) and then from the Pattaya buss station took one of those blue bath busses to my hotel direct all by myself (200b) total cost 306b and total time 3 hours, not bad for a newbie.As you say, Not bad for a newbie!

I also was in the Angel witch in February and can only confirm what you said. Unfortunately the hottest girl at that time (of course in my opinion) was already booked by two old boring Japanese guys. But she was holding my hands and flirting with me when the other two gentlemen didn't pay notice. That was fun!

But, I only paid 100 Baht for the Pattaya taxi.

Really a great report of yours!

Regards,

Frimu

Leo2000
11-04-07, 16:44
In September I went to Pattaya with my GF and we wanted to go to Hollywood Disco (in Pattaya) a place we enjoyed a lot in the past. We discovered with surprise that it was closed.

Does anyone know what happened here ? Someone told me that it will reopen before the end of the year in another location in Pattaya.

Does anyone have some more details about this ?With the elected government out and few bombing last New Year's Eve, tourism is down, a lot of places are closing down in Pat & BKK.

Cheap Meat
11-04-07, 21:17
Anybody get pussy for less than the 'going rate'(500 ST, 1, 000 LT)? I get a lot of cheap pussy from Beach Road. I have gotten many ST's from Beach Road girls for 400 baht. These were cute girls, not ugly grandmas. Furthermore, I didn't have to pay a barfine fee to bring them back to my hotel room. I'd like to find out if there are any more big freelancer hangouts like Beach Road. Otherwise, the only other major areas you can find freelancers are discos (expensive) and at the shopping centers.

Al Cualquiera
11-05-07, 05:57
Second rumor says that all tourists will have to carry their Passport in Original all the times with them - copies will not be accepted any more.
I don't know about this one but there are a shitload of tourists in Pattaya even in low season. (Was there for 3 weeks in September and falang mak mak.) What are the chances of the MIB asking to see your passport?

Seems like an unlikely prospect to me.

I won't be worrying about it.

Opebo
11-05-07, 18:34
In the Philippines you can ask a girl if she is a one holer, two holer or a three holer. But sadly I haven't worked out a way to ask a thai girl this.

Ow tood means 'want ass'. Or chope tood means 'I like ass'. Or you can say fuck tood. But most will understand if you ask them in English - usually anyone who has been around long enough to learn how to entertain the farang ass-men has also picked up some English.

Cam Bodia
11-05-07, 23:56
Hi there,

Can anybody help havent been to Pattaya for about 3 years, used to go to a go go bar called X-Ray run by a guy called chris believe it has closed down does anybody know if Chris is operating anywhere else any info would be greatly appreciated.

M P Lurker
11-06-07, 06:41
Ow tood means 'want ass'. Or chope tood means 'I like ass'. Or you can say fuck tood. But most will understand if you ask them in English - usually anyone who has been around long enough to learn how to entertain the farang ass-men has also picked up some English.
"Chorp! doot" would be much closer to the correct pronunciation.
And "ow doot"

Calvinrussell
11-06-07, 09:23
Anybody get pussy for less than the 'going rate'(500 ST, 1, 000 LT)? I get a lot of cheap pussy from Beach Road. I have gotten many ST's from Beach Road girls for 400 baht. These were cute girls, not ugly grandmas. Furthermore, I didn't have to pay a barfine fee to bring them back to my hotel room. I'd like to find out if there are any more big freelancer hangouts like Beach Road. Otherwise, the only other major areas you can find freelancers are discos (expensive) and at the shopping centers.400 baths. Happy?

And tomorroy 390 baths. Very happy?

Bob Down
11-07-07, 07:52
mick and o****, in bkk on saturday i'll ask around and see what the girls say.

a friend of mine told me he asks if the girls fuck like ladyboys and works for him.

Jimmy Red Cab
11-07-07, 16:16
Anybody get pussy for less than the 'going rate'(500 ST, 1, 000 LT)? I get a lot of cheap pussy from Beach Road. I have gotten many ST's from Beach Road girls for 400 baht. These were cute girls, not ugly grandmas. Furthermore, I didn't have to pay a barfine fee to bring them back to my hotel room. I'd like to find out if there are any more big freelancer hangouts like Beach Road. Otherwise, the only other major areas you can find freelancers are discos (expensive) and at the shopping centers.


It is people like you who give Thailand mongers a bad name, anyone who pays these girls under 500 baht should hang their head in shame.

Opebo
11-07-07, 16:43
It is people like you who give Thailand mongers a bad name, anyone who pays these girls under 500 baht should hang their head in shame.

Why Jimmy? You're applying an arbitrary standard that has no relevance to many people. In the upcountry, for example Isaan, North Thailand, or the non-touristed parts of the South, the standard price at the lower level venues is 300 baht. I say huzzah to any foreigner who can bargain to recieve the fair price - it is hard enough even to keep them to the foreigner price of 500.

As for the Beach Road girls, I have to admit that I almost never pay less than 500, but only because I make so many special demands. If, however, the woman is begging me to go with her and I really don't find her that appealing, I will say 'is 300 ok?'. It usually is - but that is more a low season phenomenon, and found only with the girls who are 30 years old and up.

Interestingly, one gets prices like 200 baht called out in Chinatown in Bangkok, from the uglier girls, but not often in Pattaya Beach. Of course lots of approximations of femininity offer themselves for less than 300 - for as little as 100 and sometimes for free, but alas, these persons are not our target group!

Old Thai Hand
11-08-07, 01:06
"Chorp! doot" would be much closer to the correct pronunciation.
And "ow doot"

These would be considered gay sex expressions, especially "ao dtuut".

If you want to be correct you could simply say, "lehn dtuut" (play ass) which is generally accepted for either sex, or the more complicated slang, "khao bpra dtuu lang", or more polite and even more complicated, "ruam phaeht thaang tha waan nak".

M P Lurker
11-08-07, 01:47
These would be considered gay sex expressions, especially "ao dtuut".

If you want to be correct you could simply say, "lehn dtuut" (play ass) which is generally accepted for either sex, or the more complicated slang, "khao bpra dtuu lang", or more polite and even more complicated, "ruam phaeht thaang tha waan nak".
Good point, since dtut is slang for a gay.
I am not using any of these expressions, myself.
I have never been looking for a hole that tight.

I believe a SOL girl Nong with big natural tits did ask me "ao dtuut mai" though. Or maybe it was expressed a little differently. Its difficult to remember during a multiple girl orgy.

Have It
11-08-07, 06:19
Good point, since dtut is slang for a gay.
I am not using any of these expressions, myself.
I have never been looking for a hole that tight.

I believe a girl did ask me "ao dtuut mai" though. Or maybe it was expressed a little differently. Its difficult to remember.


Hah ha ha! Or was it really a girl? Definitely difficult to remember (or judge) after half a dozen delicious Chang's.

Have It
11-08-07, 06:30
RTF !

Oh you have Mick - many times.

Soju Lizard
11-08-07, 11:22
Amen brother! I can't imagine any guy with a valid "Man Card" that would EVER look down upon getting the goods for the proper (I.E. non-Farang) price. I suspect "Jimmy" is either a go-go girl in disguise or one of those fools that tries to be a knight in shining armor and "save" the working girls by lavishly overspending. Either way he/she has lost major cool points here and his/her "Man Card" needs to be inspected for it's validity.


Why Jimmy? You're applying an arbitrary standard that has no relevance to many people. In the upcountry, for example Isaan, North Thailand, or the non-touristed parts of the South, the standard price at the lower level venues is 300 baht. I say huzzah to any foreigner who can bargain to recieve the fair price - it is hard enough even to keep them to the foreigner price of 500.

As for the Beach Road girls, I have to admit that I almost never pay less than 500, but only because I make so many special demands. If, however, the woman is begging me to go with her and I really don't find her that appealing, I will say 'is 300 ok?'. It usually is - but that is more a low season phenomenon, and found only with the girls who are 30 years old and up.

Interestingly, one gets prices like 200 baht called out in Chinatown in Bangkok, from the uglier girls, but not often in Pattaya Beach. Of course lots of approximations of femininity offer themselves for less than 300 - for as little as 100 and sometimes for free, but alas, these persons are not our target group!

Butt Ugly
11-08-07, 18:28
The last time I was in Pattaya (about 6 months ago) the boys in brown had pretty much cleared the girls off Beach Rd. from Mike Shopping down to Walking St. Have things relaxed or are the girls still being pushed from Mike Shopping Mall toward Soi 8?

Pwap007
11-09-07, 01:45
it is people like you who give thailand mongers a bad name, anyone who pays these girls under 500 baht should hang their head in shame.jimmy, i'm with you here. i have a fish tank with fishes in there specially for eating other fish's shit. i liken these cheap bastards to these fishes who comes to thailand on a 5000 thb budget for 2 weeks. they eat cup ramen from 7/11 and drink cheap beer with a straw and go look for someone to fuck for 200 thb. they remind me of crack addicts in los angeles who scrape together $3 to get their next fix. good fucken grief!!

Opebo
11-09-07, 19:23
the last time i was in pattaya (about 6 months ago) the boys in brown had pretty much cleared the girls off beach rd. from mike shopping down to walking st. have things relaxed or are the girls still being pushed from mike shopping mall toward soi 8?

it is better than it was, b.u., but still hit or miss. the crackdown is still going on, and you may find certain times of the night, particularly around 11:00 pm till 2:00 am that there are few if any girls. they get wind of the coming round-up and flee rapidly. the problem isn't so much the small amounts pilfered by the filthy cops as it is the drugs testing policy. if the girl is unfortunate enough not to have the bribe amount upon her, they test her [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) and send her to jail for months, american style. this explains why so many old favorites are missing for extended periods, only to return fattened by lack of drugs. again i feel like i'm talking about streetwalkers back home!

anyway, overall the quality and quantity is still way down from the freedom days, but much better than it was during the height of the crackdown. i even found a new 20 year old cutie last week - a rarity nowadays.

FreeWolf66
11-09-07, 23:42
I just returned from Pattaya. There does seem to be a shortage of girls I found actractive. I offered one 400 bt for st and to my suprise she said 300bt (talk about reverse haggling). Regardless I gave her 500 bt, which was my intention anyways. I just thought offering a lower price and telling her if she did a good job I'd pay more. I have also noticed that the Pattaya girs are heftier than before. Maybe it's the drugs. I don't know and don't want to. Only did find two outside of the bars worth taking.

Freewolf


Why Jimmy? You're applying an arbitrary standard that has no relevance to many people. In the upcountry, for example Isaan, North Thailand, or the non-touristed parts of the South, the standard price at the lower level venues is 300 baht. I say huzzah to any foreigner who can bargain to recieve the fair price - it is hard enough even to keep them to the foreigner price of 500.

As for the Beach Road girls, I have to admit that I almost never pay less than 500, but only because I make so many special demands. If, however, the woman is begging me to go with her and I really don't find her that appealing, I will say 'is 300 ok?'. It usually is - but that is more a low season phenomenon, and found only with the girls who are 30 years old and up.

Interestingly, one gets prices like 200 baht called out in Chinatown in Bangkok, from the uglier girls, but not often in Pattaya Beach. Of course lots of approximations of femininity offer themselves for less than 300 - for as little as 100 and sometimes for free, but alas, these persons are not our target group!

Cheap Meat
11-10-07, 22:41
jimmy, i'm with you here. i have a fish tank with fishes in there specially for eating other fish's shit. i liken these cheap bastards to these fishes who comes to thailand on a 5000 thb budget for 2 weeks. they eat cup ramen from 7/11 and drink cheap beer with a straw and go look for someone to fuck for 200 thb. they remind me of crack addicts in los angeles who scrape together $3 to get their next fix. good fucken grief!!cheap? yes. but some of us have to go for months on end with no pussy at home. a quick two week sex holiday won't cut it for me. i come to thailand starved and i want to get all i can. so i like to stay for very long periods of time (months). i couldn't afford it if i paid the normal rates. i'd run out of money. my long term budget is 3, 500 baht a day. there's plenty for pussy every day, but it is not enough to afford girls who think their pussies are made of diamonds.

fyi, i don't think these girls along beach road are that low-end. low prices doesn't necessarily equal low quality. often it just means i've been a tougher negotiator. i get the same meat and have just as much fun, but for a whole lot less than the two week millionaires spend.

Pwap007
11-11-07, 09:36
Cheap? Yes. But some of us have to go for months on end with no pussy at home. A quick two week sex holiday won't cut it for me. I come to Thailand starved and I want to get all I can. So I like to stay for very long periods of time (months). I couldn't afford it if I paid the normal rates. I'd run out of money. My long term budget is 3, 500 baht a day. There's plenty for pussy every day, but it is not enough to afford girls who think their pussies are made of diamonds.
Cheap Meat,

No offiense, I understand you're a monger on a budget, but pay the girls the minimum going rate - 500thb ST etc...You just admitted what life saver these girls are for you. You have blue balls from lack of pussy and they take care of that problem for you above and beyond. Isn't that worth a mere $15 USD?! Fuck, I can't get a decent meal in Los Angeles for $15 let alone a GFE fuck session for an hour or two. These girls are giving up their dignity by spreading their legs for a few hundred bahts. The least you/we can do is be nice to them and renumerate them the market rate. I'm not saying overpay, just pay the minimum going rate.

Jimmy Red Cab
11-11-07, 22:46
Cheap Meat,

No offiense, I understand you're a monger on a budget, but pay the girls the minimum going rate - 500thb ST etc...You just admitted what life saver these girls are for you. You have blue balls from lack of pussy and they take care of that problem for you above and beyond. Isn't that worth a mere $15 USD?! Fuck, I can't get a decent meal in Los Angeles for $15 let alone a GFE fuck session for an hour or two. These girls are giving up their dignity by spreading their legs for a few hundred bahts. The least you/we can do is be nice to them and renumerate them the market rate. I'm not saying overpay, just pay the minimum going rate.


Bloody good post, 500 baht would just about get you a prawn cocktail in London or Los Angeles ----talk about Cheap Charlies, -------- Jesus H Christ.

Forever69
11-12-07, 18:16
Cheap Meat,

No offiense..... These girls are giving up their dignity by spreading their legs for a few hundred bahts. ......just pay the minimum going rate.Speak for yourself-I have never taken dignity away from a provider,au contraire.me think if you have christian- or worse hyprocacy to deal with,you better go to disneyland.money doesn't change anything.

Cocod73
11-12-07, 19:44
Excuse me are there in Pattaya any exclusive high quality club or member club? Any experience?

Thanks,

Cocod73

Giotto
11-12-07, 20:12
Excuse me are there in Pattaya any exclusive high quality club or member club? Any experience?
...
Cocod73,

LOL. Is this a serious question? Pattaya - high quality?


Giotto

Cocod73
11-12-07, 20:27
Cocod73,

LOL. Is this a serious question? Pattaya. High quality?

GiottoSorry it will be my first time there. So there is no good quality?

Maybe better Bangkok, in Pegasus, Pent or else?

I am looking for suggestion for my next 21 days trip in Thailand.

Thnks,

Cocod

MarcoStraight
11-12-07, 22:10
Excuse me are there in Pattaya any exclusive high quality club or member club? Any experience?

Thanks,

Cocod73

Actually there's one place called Slim , it's located on second road after the Top Market traffic lights , left side. That's the place where rich thais (mostly gangsters) use to go to pick up high class girls. Most of the girls come from Bangkok, white skin , taller than average girls and more and more expensive than soi 6 - walking street girls.If you want to pick up a girl from Slim be ready to spend 15.000 bath x night at least.

Jimmy Red Cab
11-13-07, 01:03
Actually there's one place called Slim , it's located on second road after the Top Market traffic lights , left side. That's the place where rich thais (mostly gangsters) use to go to pick up high class girls. Most of the girls come from Bangkok, white skin , taller than average girls and more and more expensive than soi 6 - walking street girls.If you want to pick up a girl from Slim be ready to spend 15.000 bath x night at least.


Is that a typo ----fifteen thousand baht ----in Pattaya. ???????

Cheap Meat
11-13-07, 01:21
Is that a typo ----fifteen thousand baht ----in Pattaya. ???????Lol. These guys paying this stuff must have loads to burn. I get good cute girls for 400 baht ST from Beach Road. Many are gogo girls who come there if they don't find a customer for the night. I have sex everyday in Pattaya with cute girls, get drunk, and still spend less than 4, 000 baht a day.

Spending more for pussy doesn't mean you're getting something better. Usually it just means your pissing your money down the toilet. I don't waste my money on silly overpriced lady drinks or ring bells. I spend the bare minimum but I still get a lot of fun. I don't go to Pattaya to make other people rich. I go there to have fun and sex on the cheap.

I really get a rip out of reading some of the reports where guys spend 8k baht in one night in Pattaya. I see some of their girls and they aren't any better than mine. Only I spend way less to have the same amount of fun.

Vittu
11-13-07, 03:57
JRC -- Hey, man, we are talking about gangster molls here.

Mai Yao
11-13-07, 04:15
Is that a typo ----fifteen thousand baht ----in Pattaya. ???????

I had provided a wealthy Thai a useful contact in the US and in gratitude he took me and a friend out to several upscale private clubs in Bangkok. The evening included top shelf Scotch and the company of several stunningly beautiful and completely accommodating women and ended in what I would call a short-time luxury suite in one of the clubs.
His tab for the evening was close to B100,000 and he paid it happily. Most westerners would be amazed at what Thais (and other Asians) pay when they go out, it's a status and face thing.

Go to a mid-scale Thai Karaoke bar instead of a Go-Go some night, you'll be shocked at the tab and you'll probably not even get laid.

Cocod73
11-13-07, 08:29
Actually there's one place called Slim , it's located on second road after the Top Market traffic lights , left side. That's the place where rich thais (mostly gangsters) use to go to pick up high class girls.So do you think is not safe going in that place just for visiting and decide after?

Cocod

Opebo
11-13-07, 08:48
Bloody good post, 500 baht would just about get you a prawn cocktail in London or Los Angeles ----talk about Cheap Charlies, -------- Jesus H Christ.

The price of a prawn cocktail in the horrible locales London or Los Angles has no relevance to the discussion here. The minimum price in Pattaya is 300 baht, but even that has exceptions. I know chaps who take old ladies from the Beach for 100-200 baht in low season. This is rare, of course, and is usually the result of her knowing the chap as a pleasant, undemanding customer.

I will say that the police actions to prevent freelancing are inevitably going to drive up prices. It was enormously better a few years ago.

Does anyone remember the old 'Soi Zero' or 'Soi Soon'? It was the next soi north of Soi Two, running between Beach Road and Second Road. It was a private road, but open and full of trees and abandoned buildings back in the good old days - now it has all been knocked down, blocked off, and filled with hideous, useless high-priced establishments. Anyway, I knew guys who used to get 60-100 baht blow jobs in the dark in that soi back around 2000-2001. Probably too dark to see who or what was doing the sucking though.

MarcoStraight
11-13-07, 08:48
I had provided a wealthy Thai a useful contact in the US and in gratitude he took me and a friend out to several upscale private clubs in Bangkok. The evening included top shelf Scotch and the company of several stunningly beautiful and completely accommodating women and ended in what I would call a short-time luxury suite in one of the clubs.
His tab for the evening was close to B100,000 and he paid it happily. Most westerners would be amazed at what Thais (and other Asians) pay when they go out, it's a status and face thing.

Go to a mid-scale Thai Karaoke bar instead of a Go-Go some night, you'll be shocked at the tab and you'll probably not even get laid.

You're right, I was witness myself in situations like that.Rich thai males pay women not less than rich europeans or americans . Fifteen thousand bath are just 300 euro (more or less) , nothing for people earning 1 milion bath a month.Sadly Pattaya is growing , prices are growing as well and more and more rich thais are coming to Pattaya for the week end .What is normal too see in some Bangkok's club now it will be normal to see in Pattaya soon . Slim disco is the first step.

Blunderer
11-13-07, 18:11
You're right, I was witness myself in situations like that.Rich thai males pay women not less than rich europeans or americans . Fifteen thousand bath are just 300 euro (more or less) , nothing for people earning 1 milion bath a month.Sadly Pattaya is growing , prices are growing as well and more and more rich thais are coming to Pattaya for the week end .What is normal too see in some Bangkok's club now it will be normal to see in Pattaya soon . Slim disco is the first step.

I remember studying economics, and, one of the chief indicators of a 3rd world economy was the wealth distribution curve. If you've got some people at the top end, some at the low end and a lot in the middle, that is likely to be first world. Conversely, a bunch of really rich people, a few in the middle, and a shitload of poor ones is indicative of a 3rd world one.

I've met some [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140)-takingly rich people in SE Asia, I'd guess far wealthier than anyone I've met in the west.

FreeWolf66
11-14-07, 21:34
I just returned from Pattaya. The prices are going up. You just have to say no. It's the ones willing to pay that are creating this situation. Yes it's still cheap for p4p but why drive up the price?

Freewolf66

Jimmy Red Cab
11-15-07, 03:19
The price of a prawn cocktail in the horrible locales London or Los Angles has no relevance to the discussion here. The minimum price in Pattaya is 300 baht, but even that has exceptions. I know chaps who take old ladies from the Beach for 100-200 baht in low season. This is rare, of course, and is usually the result of her knowing the chap as a pleasant, undemanding customer.



It sounds to me that you are living in the past----yes you may get a shag for 300 baht, but I hazard a guess she will be old or ugly or both.

Young pretty girls simply do not need Cheap Charlies.

Jimmy Red Cab
11-15-07, 03:25
Lol. These guys paying this stuff must have loads to burn. I get good cute girls for 400 baht ST from Beach Road.


You may well get girls for 400 baht, whether they are cute or not may be open to debate.

Pwap007
11-15-07, 04:00
You may well get girls for 400 baht, whether they are cute or not may be open to debate.A man who has not eaten for days will eat old bread with green molds and say that was fucking delicious. A man who has not had any female company for months will fuck anything that breathes and feels that was the best lay ever. It's all perception.

Cheap Meat
11-15-07, 04:18
You may well get girls for 400 baht, whether they are cute or not may be open to debate. If only I had a photo of one of them. I could show you. Unfortunately I didn't have enough memory on my camera late in my trip. But oh, you are wrong. I found a lovely girl, about 20ish, very dark skinned, indian looking. Only 400 baht for the shag. One of the best I've had.

Sunny Kalla
11-16-07, 01:12
I am not a regular contributor to this forum because I do not have the freedom to monger the way most of you could (because of my job constraints). I usually stick to escorts which are not the best way to monger. I really envy you guys who could monger with so much freedom.

It so happened that I got a rare opportunity to break away from my team and ended up in Pattaya. I thought I would be a having a great time in Pattaya after going through all the information in the forum. Unfortunately the story ended in a diffrent way. !

First night I went to give a visit to SuperGirl Go-Go. Prevented from entering! Later I realised that I was not allowed to enter because I am of Indian origin! Even the most trash looking caucasians and japanese were allowed in but not me! Same story in SuperBaby. Paris. HappyA Go-Go. !

I could not believe even in year 2007 such a thing could happen! I can very well understand if a girl refuses to sleep with certain person. But for an establishment to refuse entry purely on racial basis is outrageous.

Apartheid. Racism. Whatever.

To think of it I had a bundle of cash in my pocket and I probably earn more than the owners of these establishents (no arrogance intended).

I have been a regular visitor to singapore, Malaysia and North America. Never before I experienced anything like this. If this is the attitude of thais towards Indians I would rather boycott this country. I would rather go to Malaysia.

Establishments like SuperGirl, SuperBaby, Paris and Happy A Go-Gos should be boycotted. I know most of you guys wouldn't agree with me. I still thought I must put this information on this forum.

Never the less. I had a reasonably good time at ANGEL WITCH.

Bye to Pattaya forever. May be bye bye Thailand! (forever! )

Pwap007
11-16-07, 06:36
If only I had a photo of one of them. I could show you. Unfortunately I didn't have enough memory on my camera late in my trip. But oh, you are wrong. I found a lovely girl, about 20ish, very dark skinned, indian looking. Only 400 baht for the shag. One of the best I've had.Not enough memory?! C'mon CM, don't insult our intelligence.

Blunderer
11-16-07, 09:22
First night I went to give a visit to SuperGirl Go-Go. Prevented from entering! Later I realised that I was not allowed to enter because I am of Indian origin!

Hmm.. that doesn't sound good, but are you sure it was because of your race? I only ask because I've seen Indians in there before.

There are stereotypes that float around that might have come into play if you are correct. The girls say that Indians smell bad, in much the same manner that they say Americans are arrogant or Germans are violent - I am sure some Indians do smell bad, some American's are arrogant etc, and part of the problem with a stereotype is that it is pretty much self-perpetuating with very little new evidence needed to fuel them. My thinking would be that, assuming I accepted those stereotypes as gospel, I'd rather have someone smelly in my place than someone violent or arrogant.
* Note, no nasty messages about paragraph just written - these aren't views I share, but unless you know what the views of others are, both right and wrong, you'll never understand their behaviour.

The Indian smelly thing isn't just an unjustified stereotype either. Indians, particularly native ones, often have a distinctive odour which, isn't particularly pleasant if you aren't used to it. This smell isn't a function of hygiene or anything - I suspect it originates in the diet. It may be that the Thai's find it particularly unpleasant.

In places like what you mention, money is king. For them to refuse you entry there almost certainly would have to be a financial motive, and given that your money is as good as anyone's - maybe they thought that your entry would not be welcome by some other group that was in there and spending more money than you would. Not that that makes refusing to allow you entry any less offensive of course. All this is speculation, but, either you misunderstood, or something else was going on... if you can work out what the something else is, then you might be able to avoid similar incidents in the future, not that you should have to actively avoid them of course, but we all have our crosses to bear, no matter how unjustified they are.

It is worth noting that a chap in the Philippines forum was complaining about the same sort of treatment, but he found various ways of circumventing these difficulties.

If you get the chance, pop down to Indonesia - they'll love you there! I think they are used to Indians popping over from Malaysia, as well as a whole bunch of Indians there on business.

Best of luck, and I hope you were wrong in your deductions, please post again if there is any update.

Smell you later :)

Opebo
11-16-07, 11:30
A man who has not eaten for days will eat old bread with green molds and say that was fucking delicious. A man who has not had any female company for months will fuck anything that breathes and feels that was the best lay ever. It's all perception.

Actually it is the new arrival who typically has not had any sex in a long while - and he is the one with the money to burn, and he is the one paying thousands of baht.

Nearly all of us who are 'cheap charlies', and search for the bargain price are expats or very long term tourists. As residents we get laid regularly the year round, unlike the visitors.

Old Thai Hand
11-16-07, 11:35
Sunny

Welcome to Thailand! Thais are racists and Xenophobic.

It's been discussed many times here before. But here goes again...

Thais simply don't like Indians (Arabs etc. - to the Thais, you're all the same) regardless of how much money you have and even if you dress like a multimillionaire. Neither Dodi Fayed (owner of Harrods in London), nor a prince of the House of Saud would be allowed into these establishments either.

In some places there are even signs displayed that say something to the effect, "Indians and Arabs are not served here."

It may not make you feel any better. But, we Farang are excluded from Japanese hostess bars, as they are exclusively for Japanese clientele only. These places usually have a sign that says, "Japanese only".

Asia is not the West. Racism is rampant here. BTW, while never excluded from anywhere (except a mosque), as a white man, I was treated like shit, not to mention ripped off by everyone, including state agencies like the Indian Railway and Post Office, as were most of my friends (especially the women) when I spent three months in Indian. Interestly, I was treated completely the opposite way in Nepal. Even the Nepalis had little good to say about Indians.

I can tell you from first-hand experience as a professor, that even Thai-Indian students (born in Thailand) basically stick to their own because they are excluded by the Thai students. However, the Nepali students mix quite freely with and are accepted by the Thais. I've never really understood how the Thais differentiate. But, it's just the way things go here.

Jungle Bluebird
11-16-07, 12:24
Not sure if this is still the case. Years back some Bangkok MP's refused farangs in general.

But when I think about it, why not. It's not racist, it's just business policy.

JB



Sunny

Welcome to Thailand! Thais are racists and Xenophobic.

It's been discussed many times here before. But here goes again...

Thais simply don't like Indians (Arabs etc. - to the Thais, you're all the same) regardless of how much money you have and even if you dress like a multimillionaire. Neither Dodi Fayed (owner of Harrods in London), nor a prince of the House of Saud would be allowed into these establishments either.

In some places there are even signs displayed that say something to the effect, "Indians and Arabs are not served here."

It may not make you feel any better. But, we Farang are excluded from Japanese hostess bars, as they are exclusively for Japanese clientele only. These places usually have a sign that says, "Japanese only".

Asia is not the West. Racism is rampant here. BTW, while never excluded from anywhere (except a mosque), as a white man, I was treated like shit, not to mention ripped off by everyone, including state agencies like the Indian Railway and Post Office, as were most of my friends (especially the women) when I spent three months in Indian. Interestly, I was treated completely the opposite way in Nepal. Even the Nepalis had little good to say about Indians.

I can tell you from first-hand experience as a professor, that even Thai-Indian students (born in Thailand) basically stick to their own because they are excluded by the Thai students. However, the Nepali students mix quite freely with and are accepted by the Thais. I've never really understood how the Thais differentiate. But, it's just the way things go here.

MarcoStraight
11-16-07, 22:16
Most of the Bangkok's Body Massage on Petchburi Road still do not allow western-farangs customers.It's happen to me last year , I was with a japanese friend and he was allowed to choose while I was allowed to watch only :mad:

FreakFunk
11-17-07, 00:28
Hiya,

Can anyone give me info about Secrets Hotel Pattaya?

Is it any good?

Pwap007
11-17-07, 00:29
Actually it is the new arrival who typically has not had any sex in a long while - and he is the one with the money to burn, and he is the one paying thousands of baht.

Nearly all of us who are 'cheap charlies', and search for the bargain price are expats or very long term tourists. As residents we get laid regularly the year round, unlike the visitors.I suppose Thailand need guys like the Cheap Charlies and Broke Bobs who will hire the services of women who others might pass on due to their undesirability. So for these women, they’re god sent, 100-300thb for ST is better than begging and going hungry. Good on you brother!

Terry Terrier
11-17-07, 03:29
Sunny

Welcome to Thailand! Thais are racists and Xenophobic.

It's been discussed many times here before. But here goes again...

Thais simply don't like Indians (Arabs etc. - to the Thais, you're all the same) regardless of how much money you have and even if you dress like a multimillionaire. Neither Dodi Fayed (owner of Harrods in London), nor a prince of the House of Saud would be allowed into these establishments either.

In some places there are even signs displayed that say something to the effect, "Indians and Arabs are not served here."

It may not make you feel any better. But, we Farang are excluded from Japanese hostess bars, as they are exclusively for Japanese clientele only. These places usually have a sign that says, "Japanese only".

Asia is not the West. Racism is rampant here. BTW, while never excluded from anywhere (except a mosque), as a white man, I was treated like shit, not to mention ripped off by everyone, including state agencies like the Indian Railway and Post Office, as were most of my friends (especially the women) when I spent three months in Indian. Interestly, I was treated completely the opposite way in Nepal. Even the Nepalis had little good to say about Indians.

I can tell you from first-hand experience as a professor, that even Thai-Indian students (born in Thailand) basically stick to their own because they are excluded by the Thai students. However, the Nepali students mix quite freely with and are accepted by the Thais. I've never really understood how the Thais differentiate. But, it's just the way things go here.

So, let's get this right: Thais don't like brown-skinned people and lump them together as being all the same, but not if they're from Nepal. Any other special exceptions? (Yes, yes, I know you don't understand how Thais differentiate.....).

Dodi Fayed would nowadays be considered a very unsuitable client by most prostitutes: He died quite famously more than ten years ago :D.

Old Thai Hand
11-17-07, 03:39
So, let's get this right: Thais don't like brown-skinned people and lump them together as being all the same, but not if they're from Nepal. Any other special exceptions? (Yes, yes, I know you don't understand how Thais differentiate.....).

Dodi Fayed would nowadays be considered a very unsuitable client by most prostitutes: He died quite famously more than ten years ago :D.

Sorry, I meant his dad, Mohamed Al-Fayed. ;)

No, there aren't any exceptions that I know of. I asked a Nepali friend of mine who I used to work with here. He says that Thais seem to see Nepalis as having similar characteristics to Thais - gentle, laid back etc. Nobody ever said that there is any logic to the way Thais think.

Tatonga
11-17-07, 06:46
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]Sunny

"Welcome to Thailand! Thais are racists and Xenophobic.

Asia is not the West. Racism is rampant here. BTW, while never excluded from anywhere (except a mosque), as a white man, I was treated like shit, not to mention ripped off by everyone, including state agencies like the Indian Railway and Post Office, as were most of my friends (especially the women) when I spent three months in Indian. Interestly, I was treated completely the opposite way in Nepal. Even the Nepalis had little good to say about Indians."

Let's not get high and mighty about this. Racism is just as rampant in the west as it is in Asia. The only difference is that Asians are more open and honest about their racism than the west. You don't use the N-word or any other derogatory words in public in the US but you'll go home and use every racial epithets to your kids and friends. There are nooses showing up on American campuses literally every week now. For those not familiar with the symbolism of nooses, it harks back to American slavery and pre-civil rights days when public lynching and hanging of blacks were not uncommon. It seems that every other week we have some public figure or celebrity doing mea culpas for making racist remarks in the US. Don Imus, Michael Richards, to name just a few. Oh and racial profiling doesn't exist in the west - right. In Asia, there are plenty of clubs that discriminate against their own esp clubs in Beijing and Shanghai. As an Asian American, I can tell you that during my travels in Asia, I often see whites being treated better than Asians by Asians esp in customer service. Let's stop with the overgeneralizations.

Armj7
11-17-07, 12:46
I think in the west you can sue people over it, but you can't in Asia if you get discriminated against. (On the other hands these establishments in LOS aren't technically legit I think, no idea of the intricacies of Thai law)

Did not know about this thing against Indians (by the way, Nepali's are light-skinned and aren't there Indian-Thai's as well? do they get this shit?). As a person of Indian ethnic origin, I was brought up in Msia but have been living in the UK for a decade. I have only been to LOS once, to Hadyai 5 years back for 3 days, had no problems there but a very boring, soulless town to be in otherwise. So planning a proper LOS trip and certainly did not anticipate not being able to get in places because of how I look. That certainly puts a big damper on things. However I always take other people's experiences with a pinch of salt. Everyone has different experiences, so I will report month in due course after my trip next month.

That indian smell thing that someone mentioned? Had to go through it in Msia when I was growing up(Ohh!! why do they have this smell?? and not you??). The smell I think is because of the kind of oil some people use in their hair but it is no longer common. Take a lungful of air when you are around of Indians next time in Msia :)

No reports of smelly indian issues in the UK and elsewhere! So a very Thai/Malaysian thing.

I never consider myself anything, I deal with everyone individually and expect the same, just get other people labelling me into this of that. Don't consider myself Indian in any special way or anything else so it will be vey disturbing to not being able to enter someplace because someone has labelled me something.

Anyway, here I am talking before even visiting LOS! Will report back.

Takamine1
11-17-07, 13:40
Hiya,

Can anyone give me info about Secrets Hotel Pattaya?

Is it any good?Was in Patts last August. I visited the place since I heard about it on the net. However I wasn't impressed. It's very glitsy and somewhat more expensive than other places (in terms of barfines and LT sex).

Upon entering the mamasan came over and asked me for my preferences. After explaining to her who I wanted (her English is ok) she just lumped me with someone else. She was a pretty girl mind you but just not my type. She was also somewhat pushy.

Don't know what more experienced punters may say...however Secrets is not what Pattaya is about. Pattaya is 'in your face' and raw and that's the way I like it.
Secrets tries to create a very polished product which is completely out of character with the other beer bars/ go go bars etc.

Having said all of this, people commented that the hotel rooms are very good and it is central–located in a soi off Walking Street.

Hope this answers your query

Take care ( and planning to be back next year)

Taka

Mart Cham
11-17-07, 17:05
No, there aren't any exceptions that I know of. I asked a Nepali friend of mine who I used to work with here. He says that Thais seem to see Nepalis as having similar characteristics to Thais - gentle, laid back etc. Nobody ever said that there is any logic to the way Thais think.My guess is it certainly has something to do with the fact that Nepalis are buddhists while Indians and Pakistanis aren't.

Old Thai Hand
11-18-07, 02:47
My guess is it certainly has something to do with the fact that Nepalis are buddhists while Indians and Pakistanis aren't.

The majority of Nepalis are in fact Hindu. There are certainly some Buddhists there, especially in the mountains around the Mustang area. But, most of Buddhists in Nepal are exiled Tibetans.

My guess as to why Thais think differently about Nepalis is simply to do with temperment. Nepalis are very laid back and gentle. My experience of of three months in India is of a continent full of extremely hyper people screaming at each other. The Indians, btw are among the biggest racists or perhaps classists would be better, (especially among their own people) I've ever seen. The caste system is very much alive and well.
I think the difference between Indians and Nepalis and perhaps the reason why Nepalis are accepted by Thais was illustrated best for me the first time I crossed from India into Nepal. On the Indian side of the border, the bus was playing that awful screeching Indian music. As soon as we crossed into Nepal, the Nepali driver switched on Bob Marley and the Wailers and turned around, smiled and said, "We're in Nepal...now."

Mart Cham
11-18-07, 11:09
The majority of Nepalis are in fact Hindu. There are certainly some Buddhists there, especially in the mountains around the Mustang area. But, most of Buddhists in Nepal are exiled Tibetans.

My guess as to why Thais think differently about Nepalis is simply to do with temperment. Nepalis are very laid back and gentle. My experience of of three months in India is of a continent full of extremely hyper people screaming at each other. The Indians, btw are among the biggest racists or perhaps classists would be better, (especially among their own people) I've ever seen. The caste system is very much alive and well.

I think the difference between Indians and Nepalis and perhaps the reason why Nepalis are accepted by Thais was illustrated best for me the first time I crossed from India into Nepal. On the Indian side of the border, the bus was playing that awful screeching Indian music. As soon as we crossed into Nepal, the Nepali driver switched on Bob Marley and the Wailers and turned around, smiled and said, "We're in Nepal...now."Thanks for this bit of information which made me ask Mr Wiki and Ms Pedia what they think about it. I found it thrilling to read the following sentences:

"Differences between Hindus and Buddhists have been in general very subtle and academic in nature due to the intermingling of Hindu and Buddhist beliefs. Both share common temples and worship common deities and many of Nepal's Hindus could also be regarded as Buddhists and vice versa."

What a strange point!

However I do remember having read an article in the Bangkok Post about the Nepali community in Thailand being well integrated and there was no mention of Nepali Hinduism. Instead, they definitely were positive that Nepali are buddhist people. Maybe it is a common belief among Thais that Nepalis are buddhists.

Anyway, thank you OTH for clarifying that.

Traveller 33
11-18-07, 14:02
Sunny

Welcome to Thailand! Thais are racists and Xenophobic.

It's been discussed many times here before. But here goes again...

Thais simply don't like Indians (Arabs etc. - to the Thais, you're all the same) regardless of how much money you have and even if you dress like a multimillionaire. Neither Dodi Fayed (owner of Harrods in London), nor a prince of the House of Saud would be allowed into these establishments either.

In some places there are even signs displayed that say something to the effect, "Indians and Arabs are not served here."

It may not make you feel any better. But, we Farang are excluded from Japanese hostess bars, as they are exclusively for Japanese clientele only. These places usually have a sign that says, "Japanese only".

Asia is not the West. Racism is rampant here. BTW, while never excluded from anywhere (except a mosque), as a white man, I was treated like shit, not to mention ripped off by everyone, including state agencies like the Indian Railway and Post Office, as were most of my friends (especially the women) when I spent three months in Indian. Interestly, I was treated completely the opposite way in Nepal. Even the Nepalis had little good to say about Indians.

I can tell you from first-hand experience as a professor, that even Thai-Indian students (born in Thailand) basically stick to their own because they are excluded by the Thai students. However, the Nepali students mix quite freely with and are accepted by the Thais. I've never really understood how the Thais differentiate. But, it's just the way things go here.Arabs have a bad reputation in thailand and possible Indian and Pakistani monger are considered similar cos of their appearance. The bad reputation stems from Arabs hiring a girl and when getting to the hotel the girl finds she is now involved in a gang bang with the Arabs friends and is often then underpaid.Hence the dislike for people of Arab appearance

Traveller 33
11-18-07, 14:21
My 1st trip to thailand was in 1979 and whilst in a bar I saw a sign that stated

"NO ARABS TO SIT DOWN HERE WE DON'T WANT YOU ACCOSTING WOMEN AND DRINKING ALCHOHOL WE RESPECT YOUR BELIEF IN ISLAM"

I passed a comment to a yank sitting beside me that it was a bit rough and he said to me that in this bar if an Arab walked in everyone would walk out and he said quite forcefully so me that I would be walking to. He explained that many patrons worked in the Arab states and didn't want to associate with them whilst on leave.

Since then on my 20 to30 trips to LOS I have heard many stories of girls going with Arab customers only to find out when they got to the hotel they were expected to take on all his mates as well and were underpaid as well. Maybe cos of appearances Indians and Pakistanis are judged to be the same.

I believe cleanliness has something to do with it also, I was with a girl who told all her friends that I was a good man when I asked her why she thought that she explained that it was because I showered and cleaned my teeth before bed

Starchild2012
11-18-07, 19:00
The majority of Nepalis are in fact Hindu. There are certainly some Buddhists there, especially in the mountains around the Mustang area. But, most of Buddhists in Nepal are exiled Tibetans.

My guess as to why Thais think differently about Nepalis is simply to do with temperment. Nepalis are very laid back and gentle. My experience of of three months in India is of a continent full of extremely hyper people screaming at each other. The Indians, btw are among the biggest racists or perhaps classists would be better, (especially among their own people) I've ever seen. The caste system is very much alive and well.
I think the difference between Indians and Nepalis and perhaps the reason why Nepalis are accepted by Thais was illustrated best for me the first time I crossed from India into Nepal. On the Indian side of the border, the bus was playing that awful screeching Indian music. As soon as we crossed into Nepal, the Nepali driver switched on Bob Marley and the Wailers and turned around, smiled and said, "We're in Nepal...now."


I should give it to you...You the man...you so openly said the truth...where many western folks are soo afraid to speak it out else they be branded as racist...

I'm from India...and You are 100% right..Indians are racist on different levels....our racisim is so sublime that you won't notice at first... the hatred and dislike will work on you after some time...

We have a bent towards fair skin....Indian culture considers white skin to be superior and upper caste than black skin..

Atleast in thailand..Indians could get laid after a while and are considered touirst...but if a thai would ever come to india..he will not be even cared for but would loose all his money by thugs...

The racisim amoung asians is alive..when i was in the Philippines..i felt it in many ways..the same question..why we smell bad..why we sweat..etc etc..

THE ONLY WAY...i felt to avoid the prejudice is to visit the same place again and again and again and again :)...If a thai or a filipino know you well and would feel you are different..they will open their heart for you and will do anything ...you just have to prove them wrung...the layer of indifference must be broken with consistency on a individual basis..


If you are new ..forget about the "experience"..you ain't gonna get it..however..you will keep hearing stories about how some Indians got treated royally in Thailand...well the truth is..we are soo desperate back home..even if we are offered the lowest grade in bars with a hand job..we would think our life has being a success and would be more than happy to tell the story back home and report here..

I wanted to come to Thailand..but this is the very reason that keeps me away from it...less i get a couple of months holiday and tons of money to spend mindlessly..i won't consider any destination in east Asia..

I love thailand by the way...spend my quality time with youtube clips :) but don't wanna spoil it with the general prejudice about indians....i can't stand the girl of my choice rejecting me right away ....my whole trip will be ruined :(

The last time i wrote about my own country being racist.i was bombed with PM's...

I hope we will look into it in an objective manner....we can't change anything...but we can adapt ourself to the situation and my being consistant to the same place..

Thanks OAH for brining this up

MarcoStraight
11-18-07, 19:18
Originally Posted by Old Thai Hand
Sunny

Welcome to Thailand! Thais are racists and Xenophobic......
....In some places there are even signs displayed that say something to the effect, "Indians and Arabs are not served here."...

Are u sure ? Where did u see it ? Certainly not in Bangkok or Pattaya ....

Mart Cham
11-18-07, 20:12
Are u sure ? Where did u see it ? Certainly not in Bangkok or Pattaya ....There you are mistaken!

This pic was shot in Pattaya.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1206/1468233928_07b2f6d853_b.jpg

Starchild2012
11-18-07, 20:12
hmm.. that doesn't sound good, but are you sure it was because of your race? i only ask because i've seen indians in there before.

............................

it is worth noting that a chap in the philippines forum was complaining about the same sort of treatment, but he found various ways of circumventing these difficulties.



smell you later


yup..that was me....:d

i had the same treatment at first..

folks..when you feel racism first hand and that too from cute and sexy asian women and you have no knowledge that you are about be a racially terminated from heaven...

man..it would be like developing new nerve centers in your brains of awe fullness, hatred...being zero...worthless even with dollars..your education and morality coming to zero...your d**ck kinda getting raped from the mental hatred you would go through....its like changing your horizons on people...looking at people differently altogether..you are being transformed for worse...man..i went from being happy go lucky..good guy..charmed dude..to feeling hopelessly worthless crap sh***it secondary in one hour :(


i'm a people's man with non-hurtful & easy go attitude with a hard d**ck all the time..this is what i do...i earn and then i f**ck...and then i drink and then i f**ck some more....my dream of f**cking women from across the continents smoked the first country i stepped in and i felt how really the people think about indians...it is totally opposite of what we read in the media and the cultural ministers of every country would have us believed...

man...i was robbed of my attitude ....i had only two choice...either to pack my bags and go back home and shag all day and night thinking about banging women across the continents or adapt myself to the new situation we have...

i chose later and im happy now...well the sacrifices to adapt to new situations would be more time, more money, never giving up and yes...smelling really really good...:)

as you can read in the philippines forum..at first...i was racially terminated from many bars...but i never gave up..swallowed my pride & ego and yes...i got into shower three times a day ..and got an expensive peice of calvin klien eternity

i accepted the fact the we indian smell really bad..and that is true...we really do..if you sit with a filipino girl or a thai girl ( which i got one in cebu)...they don't have any odour from their body....man..they are telling the truth...they consider farangs smelly too...we all are in the same category in smell department..these women keep themselves really really clean ..

i just adapted to the situation and took it from there..when the curtain of prejudice fell from girls eyes and they got to see me who really i was..


man..i should boast this with ego and pride...one time...i really liked the girl who was sitting with a group of korean folks in cebu jaguar bar...i just wished my desire to the waiter and be-hold...she left the korean group and came to me....man...this is something like going to mars and stealing alien girls ...

the bar is owned by a korean..they mostly cater to the koreans ..that is a korean bar folks and the girls are top class...but she came to me..cos...i was a cosistant visitor ...in a week..people started to know me....in a month i was like a king in many bars in cebu...

i could just go any time and pick any girl now...

well..atfirst....i spend lot of money and later i got discount on bar fines..tons of numbers and second time free bang from girls i knew...

too bad my company fired me for being inconsistent in work :)

i had to sadly leave cebu for being short in funds...

well...i learned soo much from the experience and i never worry about racism anymore but more about money and time..

well..to folks..who are one time travelers on a weekend..there is not much to read here...only if you have a month or two and you are really a sex crazed devoted monster monger who lives by sex every other day, then there is a chance for being consistent and going the adaptive way..otherwise..

life will be same and you will be racially terminated in every bar you go...;)

PauloThai
11-18-07, 21:50
There you are mistaken!

This pic was shot in Pattaya.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1206/1468233928_07b2f6d853_b.jpgThis pic is abolutely in Bangkok.

It is near that hotel where many Arabs stay.

I can not explain where exactly but I have seen it myself and when i am in Bangkok again i will make some pics of the place.

MarcoStraight
11-18-07, 22:16
There you are mistaken!

This pic was shot in Pattaya.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1206/1468233928_07b2f6d853_b.jpg

Mistaken what ? Let prove that place is owned by thais . By the pictures it looks like a typical restaurant runned by farangs.Pattaya is well known about these kind of things.
I know an english guy who has a bar in Soi Bowkao with a big written on the entrance : NO ARABS , NO JAPS...So in this case what do we talking about ?

Fimox
11-18-07, 22:20
Mistaken what ? Let prove that place is owned by thais . By the pictures it looks like a typical restaurant runned by farangs.Pattaya is well known about these kind of things.
I know an english guy who has a bar in Soi Bowkao with a big written on the entrance : NO ARABS , NO JAPS...So in this case what do we talking about ?

I was only replying to this post:


Are u sure ? Where did u see it ? Certainly not in Bangkok or Pattaya ....Don't overinterpret my post.

Paul2020
11-18-07, 22:47
Are u sure ? Where did u see it ? Certainly not in Bangkok or Pattaya ....This was taken October 23, 2007 in "Lucky Luke's" that was the first bar on the right as you enter NEP. I have to admit I don't know who the owner was.

FreeWolf66
11-18-07, 22:59
Hiya,

Can anyone give me info about Secrets Hotel Pattaya?

Is it any good?Try a guest house.

Dinghy
11-18-07, 23:30
http://www.roobarpattaya.com/

It's an Aussie bar on Walking Street (the menu hasn't changed compared to another picture in their files and the menu on the wall in the second picture down on the page is the same)

Old Thai Hand
11-19-07, 01:17
Are u sure ? Where did u see it ? Certainly not in Bangkok or Pattaya ....

Bangkok at Nana on Saturday night

Traveller 33
11-19-07, 03:36
Bangkok at Nana on Saturday nightSorry guys. but the Roo Bar is on walking Street it's an expat/farang bar previously called the Jan Bar it's run by Roundy and Bob formerly BHP workers from Oz a good place for cold beer and to watch Aussie Rules football in season.

Traveller

MarcoStraight
11-19-07, 09:27
This pic is abolutely in Bangkok.

It is near that hotel where many Arabs stay.

I can not explain where exactly but I have seen it myself and when i am in Bangkok again i will make some pics of the place.

Sure teeruk, I believe you "nun loy x cent"..... but take a look to the post below ...Just in case ...;)



It's an Aussie bar on Walking Street (the menu hasn't changed compared to another picture in their files and the menu on the wall in the second picture down on the page is the same)

http://www.roobarpattaya.com/

MarcoStraight
11-19-07, 13:05
This was taken October 23, 2007 in "Lucky Luke's" that was the first bar on the right as you enter NEP. I have to admit I don't know who the owner was.

..Maybe the owner is Lucky Luke ? :rolleyes:

Pwap007
11-20-07, 23:51
This was taken October 23, 2007 in "Lucky Luke's" that was the first bar on the right as you enter NEP. I have to admit I don't know who the owner was.Probably owned by a farang. After 9/11/2001, Arabs became the most reviled people on earth in America and its allies such as the UK, Canada and Australia. Since open racism is illegal in these countries, I can see why expats from the US or UK who owns businesses in Thailand where open racism seems legal, put up signs like "Will not serve Arabs. " and do it with a smile.

Have It
11-21-07, 06:17
Are you guys for real? Can't you see the sign in that bar is tongue in cheek and not an actual warning against Arabs entering the premises?
It's like one of those "My other car's a Porsche" sticker you see in the rear window of usually old and battered rustbuckets. Irony. (....and not particularly funny)
The clue is in the "We respect your Islam" part.
Consumption of alcohol and accosting of women is not in line with the parameters of Islam. So therefore, in jocularity, by asking Arabs not to enter we are respecting their Islam and kind of taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) too. It is certainly a 'farang' bar as that sign definitely highlights the mentality of your average farang bar owner.
I am also quietly confident that there is no real danger of landmines if you go into this establishment either.

Having said all this racial prejudices are rife the world over. In Itaweon (big expat/military area) in Seoul for example there are bars that have REAL signs above the entrance that say - 'NO KOREANS' and just nearby 'NO FOREIGNERS' and close to that 'NO US MILITARY' and then nearby that a G.I only bar that says 'NO CIVILIANS'

-Ebony and ivory live together in perfect harmony, side by side on my piano keyboard, oh lord, why don't we? (Paul and Stevie, 1982)

L A Guy
11-21-07, 08:48
Since open racism is illegal in these countries, I can see why expats from the US or UK who owns businesses in Thailand where open racism seems legal, put up signs like "Will not serve Arabs. " and do it with a smile.The reality is that nowadays you hardly ever see these signs, the one in question is obviously meant to be a little toungue-in-cheek, but a lot of bars used to have "No Arabs" signs displayed at the doors. Either economic considerations or PC bullshit put an end to them over time, but the first time I ever went to Pattaya back in the early-mid nineties loads of bars had those types of signs.

Old Thai Hand
11-21-07, 12:08
Well, Have It, I doubt it's a joke. It's been there for years. I've often seen Arabs and Indians barred from entering bars. I remember a particular incident at Rainbow II a few years ago when a couple of Sikh's were stopped, got quite angry and started pushing the Thai door men. Needless-to-sat, they were soon surrounded, assaulted and forced to leave Nana with blood streaming down their faces.

Ckc 007
11-21-07, 12:47
I was supposed to be in Pattaya this week but have had to postpone my trip. My main concern is racism towards Indians. – I am a British born Indian and pretty well of. My mate came back from Salvador Brazil and told me the women love colored ppl. I was about to book flights to Brazil and came across Pattaya which sounds a lot better but is the racisim really that bad? What are the work arounds? What bars allow Indians? Now planning to go in jan / feb

Traveller 33
11-21-07, 16:54
Are you guys for real? Can't you see the sign in that bar is tongue in cheek and not an actual warning against Arabs entering the premises?
It's like one of those "My other car's a Porsche" sticker you see in the rear window of usually old and battered rustbuckets. Irony. (....and not particularly funny)
The clue is in the "We respect your Islam" part.

Consumption of alcohol and accosting of women is not in line with the parameters of Islam. So therefore, in jocularity, by asking Arabs not to enter we are respecting their Islam and kind of taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) too. It is certainly a 'farang' bar as that sign definitely highlights the mentality of your average farang bar owner.
I am also quietly confident that there is no real danger of landmines if you go into this establishment either.

Having said all this racial prejudices are rife the world over. In Itaweon (big expat/military area) in Seoul for example there are bars that have REAL signs above the entrance that say - 'NO KOREANS' and just nearby 'NO FOREIGNERS' and close to that 'NO US MILITARY' and then nearby that a G.I only bar that says 'NO CIVILIANS'

-Ebony and ivory live together in perfect harmony, side by side on my piano keyboard, oh lord, why don't we? (Paul and Stevie, 1982)I disagree it's bar owners preserving their regular clientel. Imagine if you will you favorite bar which plays the music and sports you like and changes like ie Rock and Roll to techno or vice versa or soccer to basketball you would probably vote with your feet. In my case it's Rock and Roll, Aussie Rules, rugby

(yeah I know we got done in the world cup) or cricket. Most punters would go elsewhere (plenty of options)

Have you ever had an indepth conversation with an Arab I haven't it's called freedom of association, if I did I would probably offend them by asking the following question

If a Jihadist automatically goes to heaven and has 72 virgins at his diposal what did the Virgins do that was so wrong.

I pesonally think we should all become Buddhists there has never been a war for Buddha.

Don't worry be happy.

Best regards,

Traveller 33

FreeWolf66
11-21-07, 18:14
I've seen indian men treated badly in Gullivers (Bangkok). I actually had to call the waitress for them or they would have been ignored.

freewolf

MarcoStraight
11-21-07, 22:32
I pesonally think we should all become Buddhists there has never been a war for Buddha.


Totally agree :)

MarcoStraight
11-21-07, 22:54
I was supposed to be in Pattaya this week but have had to postpone my trip. My main concern is racism towards Indians. – I am a British born Indian and pretty well of. My mate came back from Salvador Brazil and told me the women love colored ppl. I was about to book flights to Brazil and came across Pattaya which sounds a lot better but is the racisim really that bad? What are the work arounds? What bars allow Indians? Now planning to go in jan / feb

I don't think its a racism problem, it's a convenience fact . How many indians/arabs you know taking girls back to India/Middle east comparing europeans-americans-australians fellows ? How many indians/arabs are willing to marry a bar girl ? In this case who's the racist ?
If I were a bar girl , my choice would be simple....... :rolleyes:

MeatMan
11-22-07, 20:12
Man is this guy pussified or what? LOL!. He couldn't leave well enough alone.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=MYkr1wjiKic

James 006
11-23-07, 01:22
There is a stripclub with mostly russian girls (and some african) girls.
Rhey dance in a windowcorner, you cant miss it.
The bar is way expensive to be in Thailand.
Anyone who ever had sex with those girls?
Some are really good looking!
When you have seen Thaigirls for many weeks - I do miss the European girls.

Would be great with some information about where to get sex with that kind of girls.

Hardicke
11-23-07, 15:52
I was supposed to be in Pattaya this week but have had to postpone my trip. My main concern is racism towards Indians. – I am a British born Indian and pretty well of. My mate came back from Salvador Brazil and told me the women love colored ppl. I was about to book flights to Brazil and came across Pattaya which sounds a lot better but is the racisim really that bad? What are the work arounds? What bars allow Indians? Now planning to go in jan / febI think this entire thing is a lot exaggerated, I am an indian and got to patts twice every year enjoy throughly. Yes there are establishments which are partial to indians and arabs, but money is a great incentive.

You should not miss out on Pattaya, the people are very friendly and the girls are very accommodating.

MarcoStraight
11-23-07, 20:36
There is a stripclub with mostly russian girls (and some african) girls.
Rhey dance in a windowcorner, you cant miss it.
The bar is way expensive to be in Thailand.
Anyone who ever had sex with those girls?
Some are really good looking!
When you have seen Thaigirls for many weeks - I do miss the European girls.

Would be great with some information about where to get sex with that kind of girls.

Forget it !!

MarcoStraight
11-23-07, 21:01
I think this entire thing is a lot exaggerated, I am an indian and got to patts twice every year enjoy throughly. Yes there are establishments which are partial to indians and arabs, but money is a great incentive.

You should not miss out on Pattaya, the people are very friendly and the girls are very accommodating.

Wich kind of estabilshments in Pattaya are "partial" to indians and arabs ?
Can you give me any example ?(except the farang bars we were talking about). Did you ever seen any Body Massage in Pattaya where arabs or indians are not allowed ?
Do not mistake racism for convenience. If you go to MC2 disco in Bangkok and you are a white european, for example ,russian girls will not approach you as they have others targets like arabs and indians. Do you think russian girls are racists ? I simply think they go for the best job.

Boogyman1
11-23-07, 21:06
There is a stripclub with mostly russian girls (and some african) girls.
Rhey dance in a windowcorner, you cant miss it.

The bar is way expensive to be in Thailand.

Anyone who ever had sex with those girls?

Some are really good looking!

When you have seen Thaigirls for many weeks - I do miss the European girls.

Would be great with some information about where to get sex with that kind of girls.Yes, they are beautiful and very pro, but: once in Asia, I would certainly stick to Asian girls, as all the other places are about one third of the price of that one. It is VERY expensive and not at all better than the rest. I think it is not the right place to go in Pattaya. You can find Russian girls in Petersburg for half the price.

Traveller 33
11-24-07, 01:27
Has anyone got any favorite bars in Soi 6, I'm particularly interested in ones with the showers in the rooms, I find it difficult to concentrate on having Junior washed while my pants(money) are in a room down the hallway.

My person favorites are Red Point and Rubys. RedPoint has prettier girls and Rubys has lots of mirrors :-)

Freeler
11-24-07, 10:01
Trav 33,

You've already given the answer: Ruby!
In room showers, ceiling and wall mirrors, big bouncy beds and total **** ladies.
And B200 for room and B500 for lady isn't bad compared to other places.
I wouldn't know about the bar tho:D!

Randy4711
11-24-07, 14:25
There is a stripclub with mostly russian girls (and some african) girls.
Rhey dance in a windowcorner, you cant miss it.

The bar is way expensive to be in Thailand.

Anyone who ever had sex with those girls?

Some are really good looking!

When you have seen Thaigirls for many weeks - I do miss the European girls.

Would be great with some information about where to get sex with that kind of girls.The target group for this club are the Japanese and other rich Asians. Much more expensive than the regular gogo clubs and beer bars.

When in Asia, be with the Asians, I'd say :D

I'm back in Europe now and though the girls in the FKKs / saunaclubs are sweet as ever, I miss the Thai teeraks. So I'm going back next week :D.

Scribe
11-24-07, 17:54
I'm particularly interested in ones with the showers in the rooms, I find it difficult to concentrate on having Junior washed while my pants(money) are in a room down the hallway.
Last year in a soi 6 bar I was having a shower with a girl after having done the deed when I'm sure someone snuck into the bedroom and rifled through my wallet. Being somewhat drunk, I didn't notice until I'd gotten back to my hotel, but most of the money had been taken. I remember it was the bar halfway up, where the girls wear school uniforms (see pic). The TG bar, I think it's called. That taught me a lesson for sure.
Anyway, I was there again last month, and had a girl from the Betty Boo bar, and the room had its own shower. Nice girls there, too.

G 2007
11-25-07, 21:30
It seems like some of you have had success with finding girls for 3-somes. Are there any special bars, places to find these girls you are ready to play this game - and not just like a fake show.

Are there special prices for this service - or do I just need to multiply with two?

Thanks for your advice

I Luv Puss
11-26-07, 09:22
Hi all,

I went to Thai land from Nov. 11. 16 with Taiwan tour group. The tour group suck. I'll never do it again but I won't go to Thai land by myself either.

On to the mongering, well, the tour group only stay at Pattaya for two nights and since this isn't a sex tour. I only have a chance to go at night. I hook up with two young Taiwanese guys since the 3 of us have the same goal. We talk to our tour guides, a Chinese-Thai (born in Thai land speak both Chinese and thai) and our Taiwanese tour guide. They recommend Thai bath for us since accordingly to them Thai bath is more popular amount Asian than Bar girls. It seem like he is correct. I went out on our second night at Pattaya and after my second night Thai bath. I walk with the intern tour guide thur the Pattaya's red light district and we went into a GoGo bar and most of girls ingroed us and only talk to the Westerners in the bar. I was puzzled so I ask the tour guide and he said bar girls only go for Westerners because they can take them out for a week or so while Asian will only go for a day or short term. I'm not sure if that's the case or not but that's what I was told.

Anyway, Thai bath. The Thai bath at Pattaya was very good and professional. It is way cheaper and better compare to the bullshit Thai bath at the States. However, I think the Bangkok Thai bath is way better but again maybe it is depend on the girls.

The first night, I pick a girl with a wider hip. My Taiwanese tour guide told me that you will alway remember your first Thai bath so chose wisely and take your time and pick the odd or strange numbers according to him they are the best and don't take manager's suggestion on the girl (I'm not sure if the odd number or strange number is true but DO NOT TAKE MANAGER'S SUGGESTION. This is true because on my second night I take girl recommended by the manager and she have some bad manner) She was great and very friendly.

The second night was a nightmare. I pick a slim girl with smaller hip since she isn't heavy thus I can pick her up and have my way but she turn out to be a dud as half way thur our session she start to complaining about her pussy and ask me how long before I cum and try to jerk me off. Of course I don't want a hand job so I talk her she doesn't have to do anything and just lie there and let me do all the work. I really hate girl like this. She was all freindly when I pick her and going to the room. If she is not up for it, she shouldn't take any customer or let me know so I can pick someone else.

On my last night at Thai land, my tour guide take me to a Bangkok Thai bath on the outside it look like a Hotel with 18 floors and the higher the floor the prettier women and if you have the money you can even get a model, B rate movie stars, tv stars. Etc. This place is targeting the business man. So it cost more than Pattya's fee. Pattaya bath house cost 2500 bhat while Bangkok cost 3000. We went to the first floor and there is two section, one have glass where Pro. Sit and the other section have none pro (girls that only work when they need money or whatever but not a regular) and the none pro cost 3500. I pick a pro and she turn out to be the best that I have. Very nice manner, good skills, didn't ***** about when I'm going to cum and let me do whatever I want expect anal.

I would love to try GoGo bar girl but I don't understand why they don't talk to Asian. Maybe next time I should be more aggressive.

Overall, this trip is average at best since the tour take me to place where I have no interest and the tour is pretty much a shopping trip. They keep taking us to outlet store to buy leather purpse, belt or gem stone. Etc.

My report probably cover what already covered so just read it for fun or skip it entirely. BTW, I was told that there are Russian girls working at Thai land too but they are control by the Russian mob. I was wondering if anyone know where to find Russian girls doing Thai bath.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Themem
11-27-07, 00:41
I have been wanting to write this for a long time. My trip was in the mid September, and was in Pattaya for 10 days (actually planned for 5 days but got extended as the trip turns out to be much better! ). I m a south asian descent and live in America and look pretty much like a thai so much so that I don't get the "Hi hansum! " obligatory greetings that bar/gogo frontline girls give you. Its only I settled down and start talking then. The TG will say. "oh I think you thai"

Went to all the usual hot spots in Pattaya. Bar, go-go and the soapy and from each I did manage to have some good GFE style experience. I want to report on the soapy experience from Sabailand (near Big C). This was my TG #2. The papasan asked me if I was here before and I said yes (I had come before last Feb) and said he will charge me the same price as before. 1200 (don't know if this is the thai price or falang.) I choose a darker youngish Isaan beauty (at least for me and end up taking her back to the hotel. I don't know if you guys take any soapy girls back to the hotel, but the BF is the same the soapy charge which is much higher than a bar/gogo BF.

She took me to her earlier work place. Another soapy in Walking street, introduced me to her "cousin"s and we chat with them, jokingly telling I m from Nongkhai (which is the place where my TG #1 is from) when they said I look thai! She seems to know the management well in that place. There were some fellas from India waiting and the those girls gave some comments which will be deemed racist and has been discussed in this forum a lot! We talk more freely without much inhibition and I m guessing this must be from my 'thai look'; We went to this place since I as asking her to show me the place (she has been working for more than 6 yrs in Pattaya) and we wanted to hit the disco and marine disco opened around 10 (or 11, forgot).

After that, she took to another of her earlier work place. A gogo in walking street and immediately hook up with her old friends and 2 of them came with us to hit the disco. Those 2 came on their own and didn't have to pay any BF. Off we went to Marine and were there till the end (4/5 AM); Marine was 'hot' and was almost packed full and we had a really good time (in fact, the girls acted more like friends and bought alternate drinks for all). I m in my early 30s and as most asians look much younger than that We enjoyed it so much so that when Marine closed for the night, we went to another disco. Insomnia (/c? ). Were there till 7 AM in the morning.

TG #2 manage to talk to one of her friends to stay with us in my hotel. The other one was still dancing her butt off there.

I finish off that day/night with a threesome with the other Gogo girl (which ois the first time and what an experience. Double the fun. Double everything! ) and it was made sweeter since the second girl was 'free'. No charge at all! She didn't ask for any money, so we all went to the shopping mall near Marriott (? ) where the Ripley's Believe it or not building. I got her a shoe. She was complaining that it was difficult walking in her gogo shoe!

Even though I paid a premium for BF (2x 1200 + LT 2500) at the soapy, turns out to be much better deal. 2 girls. And TG #2 didn't charge BF for the next night! She call up her office (sabailand) and said she is sick! She stayed with me for 2+ days and went off abruptly after getting some phone call. When I went back to the soapy a few days later, she wasnt there, the papasan told me she went back to her village! Don't know what happened.

TG#2 took good care of me, wasnt that smooth in english and I m not in thai. I guess the telling part of this experience was her saying "you look thai. You think thai same same. " pointing her finger to her head. Don't know if this was meant to be a compliment or not!

Will report on TG #1 and TG #3 later.

GregLondon
11-28-07, 08:25
It seems like some of you have had success with finding girls for 3-somes. Are there any special bars, places to find these girls you are ready to play this game - and not just like a fake show.

Are there special prices for this service - or do I just need to multiply with two?

Thanks for your adviceThis is Thailnd. You should be able to negotite a discount if you take two girls if they are friends. About 50% of the girls will go for a threesome, most of them very enthusiastically. However in only maybe 10% of those will you get much lesbian action. It'll mostly be them servicing you.

Allover
11-28-07, 10:54
Themem and I Luv Puss: These are two good reports and I appreciate the information. I suspect lurkers here don't post because they may not have new information to report. Even if a report doesn't have new information, it is interesting to read another member's point of view and their experiences bring back pleasant memories for me. An experienced Thai traveler can learn something new from a newbie's report. Thanks again to both of you for posting.

I Luv Puss: Pattaya is safe and can be visited by yourself. There are no Russian massage places that I know about. Tours are definitely not needed in Thailand as you mentioned.

You said you were ignored in the go gos. I always see Asian men being treated well in gogos. Many go go girls prefer Asian men. As you said, you may need to be more aggressive. If you see a girl on stage or in a bar, motion for her to sit next to you and buy her a drink. Point to the empty seat next to you and smile. She will come over. If you are not naturally aggressive, ask a waitress or mamasan to send a girl you like to have a drink. It will work every time. If you and the girl have get along you can barfine her. The fact you are Asian will not affect if the girl goes long time or short time. Your written English is perfect, you must speak English well.

It's interesting to read Indians can't find girls and you believe Asian men complain they can't get girls. As an American, I always feel I am being overcharged, especially in BKK massage places. The bottom line is we can all find great girls with a little bit of work.

Almotu
11-28-07, 12:12
Has anyone got any favorite bars in Soi 6, I'm particularly interested in ones with the showers in the rooms, I find it difficult to concentrate on having Junior washed while my pants(money) are in a room down the hallway.

My person favorites are Red Point and Rubys. RedPoint has prettier girls and Rubys has lots of mirrors :-)I usually bring a small knapsack, my valuables are inside and it goes where ever I go including the bathroom. . . and I never try to get drunk. It dulls the sex and too many bad things can happen otherwise.

LittleBigMan
11-28-07, 19:18
Certainly the Red point does have some of the better looking girls. The times I been there I remember the showers being in the room and never had to worry about leaving the room nor had any suspicion of stealing. But I never carry more than I need for the day.

My favorite place now is near the end of Soi 6, on the right hand side as you
head down to Beach Rd. it is small and has 1 bar stool table. I believe it is the 2nd to the last or last one on the right near the foot and Thai massage. It is so small I never really notice the name!

Upstair there are 2 rooms, 1 has a shower and 1 doesn't. The times I visited which is early I always got the room with the shower but there was a recent visit that I choose a girl because my regular wasn't working. I got the room without and the girl told me to take a shower alone down the hall because she said she just shower before she came to work. That was a first for me so I told her I wanted her to shower with me or I wouldn't be very happy. We ended up showering together. Otherwise I had never had a problem at any of the places I visited on Soi 6, but as a safeguard it always good to think with the big head and not the little one.

BuleDaddy
11-29-07, 04:03
I think this entire thing is a lot exaggerated, I am an indian and got to patts twice every year enjoy throughly. Yes there are establishments which are partial to indians and arabs, but money is a great incentive.

You should not miss out on Pattaya, the people are very friendly and the girls are very accommodating.

Many Thai names are Indian sounding. The discrimination is your imagination. Their funky alphabet orginated from early Sanskrit and I have boned many Thai girls that looked subcontinental. Down Maylay way they speak English with an Indian accent. The girls just look at you and know you are going to haggle more than a Euro or Gringo, and please don't hesitate to haggle because it is the Arabs, Indians, and Brits that keep the prices low in Thailand. Think of Thailand of the place where Chinese culture and Indian cultures kind of merge. The best booty is not necessarily the most enthusiastic at first.

If the Limeys put an Indian or Pakistani on the job instead of the Dickless Chamberlain dude the Brits would have ended up with half of Europe.

Traveller 33
11-29-07, 06:07
.72 virgins? Enjoy

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1uwOL4rB-goI prefer some experience although I suppose some virgins know how to give BJs in some places that's how they remain virgins.

Old Thai Hand
11-29-07, 07:11
Many Thai names are Indian sounding. The discrimination is your imagination. Their funky alphabet orginated from early Sanskrit and I have boned many Thai girls that looked subcontinental. Down Maylay way they speak English with an Indian accent. The girls just look at you and know you are going to haggle more than a Euro or Gringo, and please don't hesitate to haggle because it is the Arabs, Indians, and Brits that keep the prices low in Thailand. Think of Thailand of the place where Chinese culture and Indian cultures kind of merge. The best booty is not necessarily the most enthusiastic at first.

If the Limeys put an Indian or Pakistani on the job instead of the Dickless Chamberlain dude the Brits would have ended up with half of Europe.

What a load of shit.

Freeler
11-29-07, 17:16
OTH,

It's quite obvious that many Thai names and words are of Sanskrit origin. Of course all of that is totally irrelevant in the pursuit of good Thai pussy, but it is not "a load of shit". It is as true as to say that many American names are of Nordic origin.

Old Thai Hand
11-30-07, 01:49
OTH,

It's quite obvious that many Thai names and words are of Sanskrit origin. Of course all of that is totally irrelevant in the pursuit of good Thai pussy, but it is not "a load of shit". It is as true as to say that many American names are of Nordic origin.

What I meant was his assumption - that because there are a lot of Indian elements in Thai culture, Thais actually don't mind Indians - is just not true. Thais hate Indians full stop. We can debate it till the cows come home. But, the fact is I've heard it expressed since the day I arrived in no uncertain terms that they hate Indians. I've heard it put that bluntly by Thais innumerable times. I was actually quite embarrassed one time, when out to lunch with a former GF when she just blurted out loudly, "I hate Kaek!" An Indian friend who I used to teach with here told me that he was constantly the butt of anti-Indian jokes and remarks by students. A common expression in Thai about Indians, whenever one enters the room for example translates as, "Why did it just get so dark in here?" I could cite tons of examples. While Thais are Xenophobic about everyone whi is not Thai, they revile Indians the most. It's simply the truth and that's it. I don't care if some Indian goes to Pattaya and can get laid and therefore thinks that Thais are ok with Indians. It doesn't mean anything. The Elephant Man could get laid in Thailand. Thais will do anything for money, even fuck someone who disgusts them.

Starchild2012
11-30-07, 04:46
Folks..Accept the FACTS and move on...I'm from India and there is racism and when you face all the trouble and finally break the barrier and sleep with the girl....believe me it's worth the abuse and taunts...You will feel good cos you earned it and your trophy is sleeping beside you..

It feels bad when you are racially terminated...but its totally totally worth the trouble...

Im going to twist my mind around, drink a bottle of rum and feel horny when the girls will abuse, pass comments and kick me around ...man this is going to be another type of rush...:D

Yeah..I ain't gonna give up...To be fair to the girls...I ain't worth their p**sy that much ;)...so what ever they have to say .. I totally completely agree with them

Man...if you accept the facts and move on ..life is so much easier...your mind ..oopss pe**nis will automatically find ways to overcome any barrier...

And don't tell me you give racism more importance than your Pe**nis :D



Peace Out...see you guys very very soon in pattaya :)

Ice Raj
11-30-07, 07:56
Guys,

It is very interesting to note some of you oldies (wise ones) totally up in the air on this matter!! Maybe there is a sense of your own personal racist thoughts cast and twisted in your comments.

I agree some Thais dislike Indians...but some of them also dislike Farang...surprised??? Go to South Thai...Betong, Danok or the famous Hat Yai...you will find Indians quite well loved...and Farang truly despised...

So the truth of the matter is everyone has an opinion of someone else based on past experiences or what he reads or hears. Skin colour also plays a role...e.g. blacks in the US etc etc. But it's just a perception. Today the "thai" would say "i hate kaek" and tomorrow the same person would be the "kaek's" bed-mate...just as the "Thai" would say "I love only you my Farang"...and be screwing around with 7 other guys (without caring two hoots about their background or race...it's the Baht that matters...).

In principle it's how charismatic we are and how we carry ourselves with others and earn anothers respect that is important, I believe.

Anyway I have the utmost respect for those who would/may feel insulted by this report I am posting...but I stand by my comments.

Peace to all Mongers...adios.

Ice Raj
(yup I am a true blue Indian bros...)

FlyJets
11-30-07, 12:01
I respect your post. It is deep and hits some of the issues we all face in traveling everyday. I am from Miami. However, my crew is a cluster Fu*%. I am the only white guy, the rest are American black, American Cuban, Puerto Rican, Colombian, Jamaican and a Mexican Irish mix. We look at it like this... No matter where we are, one of us will be the most desired. Then, he is our point man. We all know there are times to stand down while the others do well. When it is our turn, sharpen the blade and make your boys happy.Good luck. nice post. Semper fi!!

Old Thai Hand
11-30-07, 12:35
Ice Raj

Of course many Thais don't like Farang - no surprise there. But, to say that Indians are loved in the south means nothing because Southern Thailand isn't even really Thai. If it was, they wouldn't be blowing up Thais and trying to separate from the rest of the country.

Just because Indians are accepted in places like Pattaya doesn't alter the facts, simply because they are accepted by girls who will do whatever to make money; even shag an Indian.

As I said before, I have taught plenty of Indian students who are 2nd 3rd or even 4th generation Thai born - as Thai as any other Thai, Thai-Chinese or whatever. Yet, they don't integrate into the society, are not accepted and pretty much stick to their own. If even Thai-born Indians are subject to racism, how do you think the main Thai population feels about Indians who come here on holiday or even work here?

Have your fun, if you can. But, don't labour under any illusions about your acceptance simply because you dress well, smell good or whatever. You are Indian, have dark skin and that's all it takes for Thais not to like you. Conversely, if Thais like Farang at all it's generally because we're white and perceived to all be rich - a pretty common belief and not new information at all.

The whole "Indian" topic has been talked to death on here many. many times - now quite boring, really. As there seems to be more and more Indians coming here now, perhaps you'll all be able to reverse centuries of an anti-Indian mindset with your 'Bollywood' charm and good looks. :D