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2007 Pattaya Reports

Evil Penivel
12-31-06, 13:47
Here's a cut-and-paste from the official Eden Club forum by Eden John, the manager at Eden Club Pattaya:

"Unfortunately Marc had a heart attack on Thursday & should be having surgery today, I talked to him today & he hopes to be out of hospital Monday or Tuesday.

We had a soft opening on Wednesday, with a large percentage of the girls being from The Eden Club Bangkok & a few new from Pattaya.

To make existing customers relaxed, the bar is almost an exact copy of Bangkok & all the rooms brand new.

We could have probably started with a greater number of girls, but to keep the same standards as Bangkok, we prefer to have a smaller number of good girls of the required quality rather than a large number of new girls, which could allow standards to drop.

We are having more girls both from Bangkok & new recruits over the next week, our intention is to slowly grow over the next few months whilst maintaining the same quality & customer satisfaction."

There is a EdenClubPattaya web site (shouldn't be too difficult to figure out the address). Right now it only links to the official Eden Club forum, but Eden John said he hopes to post info to the Eden site in the coming week.

Evil

PS- Get well soon, Marc!

Evil Penivel
01-01-07, 11:06
I'm passing this message along at the request of Marc. It's terrible news indeed and my deepest condolences go out to Marc, to Francis' family and to all who are mourning him.

"hi Guys

i didn't want to spoil everybody's Happy new Year, that's why I am posting only today

i have been hospitalized the 28th decembre 3pm

my best friend and partner in Eden Club Pattaya ( Francis ) came to see me the 28th and 29th December many times a day

the 30th December, I didn't see him coming, tried to call him at lunch, 1pm,2 pm, 3 pm 4 pm but his phone wasn't open

knowing that something was wrong I took out all the drains, cables, monitor and so on from my body, signed a discharge from the hospital and went straight away to Francis home

this is where I found him in his bed, deceased

i took care of everything with the police up to about 8pm

then went back to the hospital

the 31st 9am I got my double heart operation and left the same day at 10pm from the hospital

i went to the Club in Pattaya and announced to everybody this really sad news

i took at the same time the decision to shut down Pattaya

i did open Pattaya only for Francis ( some of you may have known him when he was running for a few months Eden Club Bangkok, he used to post as EDENUNCLE )

i am now selling both business ( brand new ) the Bar and the 12 rooms hotel at costing prices not looking to make any money on it

jsut asking the future buyer to change the name of the Club, not of the hotel

sorry to let you know that Eden Club Pattaya was running for only 4 days

i have no feeling to continue to go over there everyday and cry everyday thinking about my friend

there will never be an Eden Club Pattaya anymore

see you
marc"

DanTheMan
01-02-07, 10:22
I can only imagine how great this joint goes off at New Years!

I can't think of a better place to see in the new year.

And what would be better than enjoying the atmosphere here, then later assholing the atmosphere and having a 3-some with 2 hot Thai shelias!!!

Root on!!

Small Buterfly
01-02-07, 16:46
Till 31th police volunteers patrolled so often on motorbikes after 8 pm that almost no girl stayed on the beach side (fine 100 B first time). They ruined my nights; everywhere is sex in Pattaya, but they foccuss on the beach.
On 31th a farang was stabbed near me in front of the internet cafe near Tipp plazza at 4pm 100 meters from police station but it took them about 30 minutes to come.
I was so angry against them that I ran into police station to shout that they had better fight real criminals than innocent girls, they said me to go...
Since 2 days pressure decreased, some girls come back, its too soon to state it will last.
This police action has spread freelancers , the oldest and ugliest staying on the other side, many better looking where waiting in front Tonys and Lucifers, some in front Marriott.
So the only thing they achieved is to turn the beach in a beautifull alley to allow russian females to go to their hotels quietly. They are very numerous and beautifull, dressed as *****s, but they are welcome because they bring currency in that hypocrit City...
Some pics (NO SEX, SORRY) from the crowd on 31th in Pattaya , that future touristic City...)

Phantomtiger2
01-02-07, 19:57
there will never be an Eden Club Pattaya anymore

see you
marc"


Damn,
Although I'm glad I was able to indulge in Pattaya Eden just that one time I'm sadden that its already over. VIP


PT

Opebo
01-03-07, 03:46
i was so angry against them that i ran into police station to shout that they had better fight real criminals than innocent girls, they said me to go...


i share your indignation, small butterfly, but must warn you brother to take care. we have all had that same urge - to walk up to a cop and tell him what you think - but it is a terribly dangerous thing to do. these fellows are simple thugs, who will have no understanding of what you say in any case, and will feel obliged to abuse you in some manner both for their own satisfaction and to emeliorate any loss of face. cops are the same the world over.

but enough ranting. i also found that the period before new years eve was just as tightly controlled as ever, but managed to find one good girl near ps in front of the 7-11. i suspect she was freelers three holer, though she did not squirt for me. absolutely excellent service however - the anus just sucked me in! later that same night i resorted to a girl from a bar on soi 7 who also provided excellent bareback three-hole service, but the total cost was about 1,100 baht, not forgetting my competely undesired drink. this is the net effect of shutting down the beach - upward pressure on prices, downward pressure on service. this affects even those mongers ignorant or unadventurous enough to dismiss the beach girls as 'pathetic'.

the next day i took one from the beach and one of the beach girls from her rooming house in soi chiaphum. overall i had as many lovely gapers during my visit as i would normally have had, but alas no more 'surprises' - you know the beautiful young girls one would occasionally find on the beach before they had to fear police action. virtually all the attractive girls have left the beach road trade, or are in jail. (one can only assume the police prefer to retain these, and one can only imagine why - [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123)). perhaps one day soon we will have to go to the prison and pay the police for these girl's services - talk about [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908).

in an interesting note, the no-name rooming-house i referred to in my most recent post is actually a reincarnation of the blue wave guesthouse, which was condemned and/or shut down around a year ago. do any of you mongers remember that one just off second road? i had a lot of great sex in the blue wave, but it was annoying how the gangster/cop owner would charge you 20 baht to go upstairs, even to just check if a girl was there. i was told by a girl that the same policy applied on soi chiaphum, but no one at the desk insisted. there are a total of three rooming houses in that soi worth looking at for the beach-starved monger. here's hoping they aren't shut down - one doesn't know if one should even mention such places anymore on this forum!

BuleDaddy
01-03-07, 05:34
I have been thinking of buying a bar in Pattaya but I have been worried about the political climate. Does any one have any info on what is going on there. I have been to Bangkok and Pattaya four times in the past year.

You have to have a 51% Thai Partner and now you have to leave every 90 and stay away 90 days before you come back. Your money will all be gone long before you return.

BuleDaddy
01-03-07, 06:06
the dudes and ladies in dark uniforms would let a whole planeload of asians stroll on in as usual while they tore through my and a couple of other homeboy's stuff. looking for counterfit: software, sunglasses, rolexes (confirep001ed 7), and teamware. there is proposed legislation that could go on the books to fine you the full price of each item. chinese with thousands of dollars of gold around their necks strolling on in w/no questions asked. mind you, these guys at the big midwestern asian hubs don't understand the whole concept of travel to these p4p places. these are boy-next-door guys you want your sister to marry. they wouldn't even go to las vegas if they got a free ticket. if you do customs on the east or west coast they are more in touch with travelerers. but the bad news is that the feds are activley recruiting from midwest campuses because they are considered super morally sound. name one spy from the midwest. the more you go over there, the more they scrutanize you. i get hit with big duties on my goods now while a couple of years back they'd let me skate.

Evil Penivel
01-03-07, 10:15
Here's the latest from Marc, posted on the official Eden forum. Marc asked all "friends of Eden" to pass on his message. I don't any details about the new place or its owners.

Evil

"hi Guys

first let me thank all of you for your support during this hard time

when I was telling that I was closing both business, I didn't mean closing BANGKOK which still open

I just meant closing Eden Club Pattaya and the hotel next door, The Waranya Inn

i did find a middle solution

The Club and the hotel has been sold yesterday

the new name will be THE HELL CLUB
website coming soon as : thehellclub.com

i will keep a very small part as a shareholder, enough to assure the owners of my expertise, launch the place during 1 month or maybe a little more, and give them the use of all my connections

the new owners are very flexible guys and the new policy will be :

1 lady possible
2 ladies or more possible
and the drinking side possible too ( as long as it isn't going out of control )

i will do my best to help them and then I will leave Pattaya

if the new owners need me for anything, I will be there for them anytime

see you
marc

WeaverWorld
01-03-07, 11:23
You have to have a 51% Thai Partner and now you have to leave every 90 and stay away 90 days before you come back. Your money will all be gone long before you return.There are countless ways around the 51% rule in Thailand, any reputable lawoffice will help you to setup whatever Thai goalie or crossownership company that you might need in order to be able to own the company yourself.

The visa is not a real issue either since it is still possible to buy visas for 90 days or running consecutively, I stayed here 90 days and then flew to KL and bought another 90 day visa for 50 Ringgit, no worries. Just remember to get the extra 30 days after the permitted 60 days you get on entry to Thailand.

Old Thai Hand
01-03-07, 13:50
You have to have a 51% Thai Partner and now you have to leave every 90 and stay away 90 days before you come back. Your money will all be gone long before you return.

You could actually get a work permit and a non-imm B visa, you know. It's not that difficult.

I personally support the new visa rules. It keeps the riff-raff out and forces people who want to make money here, to do it legitimately and most importantly, pay taxes. I have too. Why should some guy, who owns a bar be allowed to stay here on a tourist visa?

BJ Blitz
01-04-07, 05:57
Where will be a good spot for one to take in the Superbowl. Since a friend and I will be out of the States for the game, we would like to try and be in a football friendly enviornment. Anyone have any plans/advice. Or would you recommend we stay in Thailand? Newbies to SE Asia. How about renting out one of the bars? And if this is being done by one of the brothers. How about an invite.

Thanks in advance

Blitz

Eggsalad
01-04-07, 09:05
The dudes and ladies in dark uniforms would let a whole planeload of Asians stroll on in as usual while they tore through my and a couple of other homeboy's stuff.

B-Daddy

You may have read my recent report on my experience at customs. I guess I forgot to mention that I am Asian and still got searched. I think the fact that I was a young man travelling alone to LOS and Philippines set them off.

Egg

Magna White
01-04-07, 15:52
I'm heading back to Pattaya in late January. My last trip was in Sep. 2005. Being away for some while, I do like to know if the prices for girls have changes. I used to pay 1000B/LT and 500B/ST for girl from beer bars. Not much experience for girls from go-go bars. I had one from Super Girls that was a dead fish and allowed only one sex. She insisted on 2500B which I firmly refused. After several calls from her mamasan and "sisters", I seetled at 1700B. No more go-go girl after that.

I just check the hetel rate. Prices for hotel rooms seem to raise a little bit. What about the girls?

Many thanks!

Phantomtiger2
01-04-07, 20:49
B-Daddy

You may have read my recent report on my experience at customs. I guess I forgot to mention that I am Asian and still got searched. I think the fact that I was a young man travelling alone to LOS and Philippines set them off.

Egg


Going thru customs these days is hit and miss. I've seen every sort of people get searched (even a little old lady once) while the guy behind her that I think should've been search was not. Sometimes its at random, sometimes not and sometimes its by a process as I notice on my last trip, exactly every 5th person on line got searched.

PT

Bacwy1
01-05-07, 21:20
The prices have doubled. I didn't even try and get the gogo girls. If you want cheap and quick than beach road is still 500st. Personally I would go somewhere else right now, they are asking steak prices but giving McDonalds quality right now. Another big problem is there seems to be at least double the ladyboys this year.

Dinghy
01-05-07, 22:40
PT - weren't you going to Canada (eh?) Or were you transiting the US?

maybe I read that report wrong ...

Phantomtiger2
01-05-07, 23:12
PT - weren't you going to Canada (eh?) Or were you transiting the US?

maybe I read that report wrong ...


Hey Dinghy, glad somebody was paying attention. (BTW: where are you now?)
I just returned back home recently to Canada, but I do stop by US often as I still have family there. Most of the time I'll leave LOS and fly directly to US for a few days to visit then make the final flight home.
Canadian customs at times could be just as bad (or worse) than the ones in the US and sometimes when I'm really out of luck, I have to deal with both of them after my vacations in SEA. Most of you only have to deal with one custom stop, I usually have 2 before reaching home. So before any of you even think of how badly you're getting treated, just remember what I have to go thru.

Cheers all.

PT

Old Thai Hand
01-06-07, 02:43
pt

i agree that canadian customs can sometimes be worse than us. i also experience the benefits of both on my yearly trip back to the "land of the beaver" (oh...sorry...i'm in the land of the beaver...forgot).

i am always interrogated and often searched like some criminal because the bonehead customs agent at passport control (usually some 20-something squarehead who's taken one too many pucks to the face) get's highly suspicious when he sees that i actually live in los. i'm sure i'm immediately labelled a **** on the run, in his mind, (especially after the john kerr case, last year). i almost always get the suspicious, incredulous question, "you really live there? why?" as if they can't fathom someone would actually prefer to live somewhere other than the frigid, great white north, especially somewhere perceived to be so far away, and with a somewhat colorful reputation.

Member #3200
01-06-07, 04:00
i agree with oth,the canadian young punks that patrol canada custom especially at pearson airport here in toronto & most of out boder crossing are assholes.
the 100s of disgusting personal questions & the raised eyebrows when you tell them you are coming home after a winter trip 2 cuba or thailand.
the john karr issue hasnt helped matter when kinda still young guy like myself travel abroad 4 some fun & get away from the canadian winter.
this morons are trained to think that every male traveller is a ****-30-37c everyday in cuba or thailand compared 2 snow & freezing 1s ass back home,the choice is obvious where i want 2 spend winter-not here

BJ Blitz
01-06-07, 04:54
You did just post on the ISG forum. Oh yeah we are not pervs at all!

Winter/Summer. Temperature? Just accept the scrutiny. Its gonna happen. Fair or not fair. There is a criminal element they are trying to deter.

On my way to LOS and Phillipines in a month or so and expect the same.

Just be cooperative and go to a happy place...like what was going on three hours prior to embarking your journey ;)

Keeniu
01-06-07, 10:33
i agree with oth,the canadian young punks that patrol canada custom especially at pearson airport here in toronto & most of out boder crossing are assholes.

the 100s of disgusting personal questions & the raised eyebrows when you tell them you are coming home after a winter trip 2 cuba or thailand.

the john karr issue hasnt helped matter when kinda still young guy like myself travel abroad 4 some fun & get away from the canadian winter.

this morons are trained to think that every male traveller is a ****-30-37c everyday in cuba or thailand compared 2 snow & freezing 1s ass back home,the choice is obvious where i want 2 spend winter-not herehave fun. just have a professional conference brochure in your suitcase, and wink, saying it was all tax deductible. or have a report titled pearson customs privatization proposal ymmv, and a jpeg with a big red cross over psac or whatever labor union, and another slide call 'abolition of overtime and penalties'. these guys lost all interest, with the admission that this management consultant was really on a working holiday, and that they would respect confidentiality, and reassuring words that biometrics are still in early days.

if you are not in that line of work , van hagens jpegs can be added. they really should not be questioning you like that, but using your usa generated profile score. these customs folk have one purpose - getting people through efficiently. as mentioned truecrypt is there, but not needed as mongers are not the droids they are looking for.

Traffic777
01-07-07, 07:38
I'm always looking for an opportunity to practice my Spanish. Do you know where to look for native speakers? Some guys say there's a Cuban working girl.

Doesn't have to be a SW, I'd like to meet anybody.

Kimo29
01-07-07, 12:08
Guys I am so sad althought it is my second trip in the row to LOS but GOSH everytime I am heart broken I wish I never been there: (or knew about Thailand anyway here is my report.

DAY 1 NEW YEAR'S EVE

Arrived around about 5. 30PM coming from DUBAI were I spent two nights check dubai forum for a breif hunting I changed 100usd 3500 BAHT then done all my customs clearance I found a taxi from the hotel on the right side as they said to me I told him first I need to buy a sim card no problem at the airport I got card for 200 Baht 50 baht credit I went after that to Emirates Airlines since I needed to postponed by return unfotunately the employee told me no places till 26/1/2007 and she gave me the no to re-check with the office again.

After that I headed to pattaya there was no traffic jam since it was the new year eve humm took us about 2 hours to reach my hotel SABAI LODGE very nice hotel the room was great although the bathroom was small but very nice and clean located in soi 2 have an electronic safe and very very strong A/see and GF.

Changed clothes ASAP nice shower and here I am in PATTAYA walked to the beach road and jump into TAXI 20 BAHT for the ride and GOD THE fire works was wow and the beach road was very crowded it took me about 35 to reach the famous walking street.

Now I was having high hopes for CLUB BOASCHE but first I head to eat to I had a nice sea food at a resturant and went to CLUB BOASCHE and to my dissappointment it was empty may be I am late 10. 30 PM anyway checked CATZ, XZONE many gogos and the bear bar in PATTAYA did not impressed me like PHUKET anyway I said to my self what the fuck I need TG in the new year now I spotted a nice freelancer walking with her firends I grab her from the back she touch MR HAPPY and say ok you are with me GOD they are great they ae heading to LUCIFIER which was my place in my five days guys forget about GOGOS and BEER BARS freelancers girls in the clubs such as TONY'S and LUCIFER are great we went dancing in both places by the way TONY'S PRICES IN THE NEW YEAR was totally absurd 400 BAHT for a bear now we walked togther me and the 2 girls from club to club then we went eating THAI FOOD as I adore spicey food they liked that and then they told me if I want them both sure and how much I will pay them I said 2000 baht for both and guys this is ok since it was new year eve I qouted bar fine and living dolls 2000 bath.

We head to the hotel no problem I was lucky that night they did not ask for their papres anyway shower then I had I nice threesome session.

In the morning one more pop kisses and Good BYe.

DAY 2,

Walked to the beach I did not like the water really sucks soi decided to go back to the hotel rest by the pool nice novel.

After that I had to sleep went had lunch at PINKY LADY resturant on walking beach not recommend the soup was afwul and the lobaster was not good.

Back to the hotel change a clothes, nice shower head to the action now I was turned on by the no of russians and the yellow hair and big bodies I checked with a mate from KUAWIT POLO guys the prices are absurd 350 USD for a session fuck them I said to the mate good bye as he was totally drunked and acting like a grazy falang the poor guy drank so many TIQILLA and I told him to go home I met him at a beer bar infront of TONY's and we have done a nice cruise in gogos' went to lucifier and now I sopt hot russian she has nice body I grab my ass and offer her a drink she answer why? I tell her I would love to buy her a drink PINACOLADA I got the drink we dance she was very hot alhtough snobish she is a baby doll anyway she was looking to another friend of her which was dancing with another guy she keep asking me what do I want I kept telling her I love her company finally she said she is leaving fuck after I am hard and ready to take care she said she is going to POLO gogo to meet a friend I follow tell her that I would love to spend the night with her and give her 200 usd she told me are you crazy and she went to POLO after I saw her dancing with customers I realized that she works there may be she skip for an hour or two that night I learned a lesson screw russions and other nationalties I am here for TGs only it was late I was fucked up and went back home and huged the pillow.

DAY 3

A friend of mine asked a favor so I cut him a deal and then headed to the pool where I read CHRISHTON'S SATE OF FEAR nice book then around 3 I felt horney head to SABAI LAND and SABAI ROOM nothing interesting after that to SABAI DEE and wait for 45 minutes and picked no 216 now she looks young and sex but when she GOD what did I get my self into she was old and not nice at all however I had to do the session the soapy massage was ok but I did not want to do boom boom she sucks with a condom now icant finish she do me a hand job and now I said ok boom boom fews secs I finish then tip her and said to my self no more soapy very tricky or may be I should get my self a glasses.

Went to STAR DICE resturant guys that was a real Gem nice food and amazing service after that to the hotel and while I was heading to my night hunting I find some hot real fair skin walking in soie 2 and smile to me saying where you go walking I said now let me walk with you and buy you a drink she said in a very sexy voice that she was heading to see a customer but no problem we walk side by side till walking street she was a gr888 company name Ross we laugh talk her english was good we head to lucifer she don't like we have a drinks and she then take me to a nice pub in the begining of walking street we spend 3 amazing hours where there is a man who sing and act like the KING ELVIS it was adorable show after that to lucifier danc e for an hour back to the hotel no boom boom as I was tired in the morning nice session for 40 minutes she gave me her number I said I will call and deep I'm myself I know I will not as usual I want something new. I gave her 1500 bath she really worth it and if she asks more I would have give her

DAY 4,

Same as above well as for the night I spot a real knock out which turn to be a great pain in the ass her name was FAW she had a great boobs so I walk after her she has a friend who serve TIQILA beside TONY'S complex I tell her I like her we head to lucifer she drinks like crazy we get out of Lucifer she wants to go eating THAI food ok but the only problem that we took TAXI to my hotel hoping that there are resturants still open no fucking resturant and the hotel wants to charge me 450 BAHT to get me a deliver fuck I tell her to go to the room I go searching around the area untill I find a man and his wife serving THAI food I got the food go back she opens she said she is so tired no wait I try to cuddle I tell her at least eat the food she said no wait a moment then askher to take a shower she does then she eat we do a breif encounter she even sucks with condom few seconds I am finish in the morning I gave 1500 bath I know dose not worht it I tell her I will be leaving today which was a lie as I was leaving the next day.

Day 5,

NOW that was eden day after finishing the pool I decided to find eden I know the address you told me guys SOI DAINNE LK METRO it took two hours to go there and when I am there I find no sign what the hell I find loliata I even fins the ARECA LODGE hotel located in the main street and I thank GOD for SABAI LODGE the hotel is far away from the action and they were very rude when I contacted them to reserve a room there anyway. I had this bad news from a guy I asked I am in the right place and Eden was indeed open but one of the partners died on the new year eve so they closed it and the guy informed the place will be re-open next week but not sure if it will be still Eden guys I did not know that Marc has a partner I was really sad about this it my last night and I was reserving Eden to the last day anyway back to have early dinner. Hit walking street for the last time Lucifer, Tony no luck now time is runing I meet with a nice ISEREALI GUY who I met yesterday take me to living dolls where he was sitting with some of his friends he said to me pick what ever you would like two dray my attention hmm unfortunately they were already bar fined I say bye to my ISEREALI friends head to TONY and now as soon as I enter I find JOVA and she was a stunner sitting with couple of friends now the same hip hop dancing drinks we kisses now after an hour I thought she will be mine and then she excused herself to the bath room lciing her firend with me she dance and tell me she will get soon now that happened two times and I am not an idiot now I got to see where she is and now the **** is dancing with another guy I have nothing against that but she can tell me from the early beinning so I don't get attached to her besides I am kind of emtional not that I will fall in love with her but guys you know I prepared my self to fuck that body so mentally and emtionaly I want this specific girl once she saw she ran and now she comes back to my table I said that if she has another plans for tonight no problem after that she said she will go to the WC again now I start to talk to her sister or friend what iever I like her and want her she comes back and now she say if I want her I should give her money now in my self where is the girl who were with me couple of hours ago I say money no problem I can give you whatever you want 2000 2500 even 3000 she said ok and she goes dancing now I said to my self fuck the ***** and turn to the first girl infront of me I decided to buy her and her firend a drinks now I feel sick about the whole situation why do my last night turn like that she comes back and pull my hand she is totally drunk I tell her she is free to do whatever she like too I pay for the drinks of the two girls tell them I myself want to go the bath room I go to my girl like a sissy I know guys you will all hate me for that I tell her want to talk to her I ask her why she have to act in such bitchy attitued where is my sweet baby and her friend watch I tell her its my last night she said ok and that I have to give her money I said mo problem but she must trust me we go together to lucifer hand in hand dance like crazy kiss each other a long french kiss for about 20 mins and then we go eating THAI FOOD we head to the hotel shower boom boom was gr88 then wake in the morning it was my last day head to od somethings I return back she was still asleep I go sleeping in her arms we do another great boom boom have lunch at stra dice resturant kisses good bye.

Shopping in the afternoon for firiends and family get my two suits which were being done book a taxi then LEAVE PARADIS heart broken 8. 15 pm.

Well guys now I am back to my real world.

Cheers

Thailand is Heaven

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

BuleDaddy
01-08-07, 02:50
[quote=member #3200]i agree with oth,the canadian young punks that patrol cada custom especially at pearson airport here in toronto & most of out boder crossing are assholes.
the 100s of disgusting personal questions & the raised eyebrows when you tell them you are coming home after a winter trip 2 cuba or thailand.
the john karr issue hasnt helped matter when kinda still young guy like myself travel abroad 4 some fun & get away from the canadian winter.
this morons are trained to think that every male traveller is a ****-30-37c everyday in cuba or thailand compared 2 snow & freezing 1s ass back home,the choice is obvious where i want 2 spend winter-not here[/quote

no hockey for a couple of weeks is a crime against nature, eh? that would make canadian law enforcement very suspicious.

J Ride
01-09-07, 23:27
Guys I am so sad althought it is my second trip in the row to LOS but GOSH everytime I am heart broken I wish I never been there: (or knew about Thailand anyway here is my report.

DAY 1 NEW YEAR'S EVE

Arrived around about 5. 30PM coming from DUBAI were I spent two nights check dubai forum for a breif hunting I changed 100usd 3500 BAHT then done all my customs clearance I found a taxi from the hotel on the right side as they said to me I told him first I need to buy a sim card no problem at the airport I got card for 200 Baht 50 baht credit I went after that to Emirates Airlines since I needed to postponed by return unfotunately the employee told me no places till 26/1/2007 and she gave me the no to re-check with the office again.

After that I headed to pattaya there was no traffic jam since it was the new year eve humm took us about 2 hours to reach my hotel SABAI LODGE very nice hotel the room was great although the bathroom was small but very nice and clean located in soi 2 have an electronic safe and very very strong A/see and GF.

Changed clothes ASAP nice shower and here I am in PATTAYA walked to the beach road and jump into TAXI 20 BAHT for the ride and GOD THE fire works was wow and the beach road was very crowded it took me about 35 to reach the famous walking street.

Now I was having high hopes for CLUB BOASCHE but first I head to eat to I had a nice sea food at a resturant and went to CLUB BOASCHE and to my dissappointment it was empty may be I am late 10. 30 PM anyway checked CATZ, XZONE many gogos and the bear bar in PATTAYA did not impressed me like PHUKET anyway I said to my self what the fuck I need TG in the new year now I spotted a nice freelancer walking with her firends I grab her from the back she touch MR HAPPY and say ok you are with me GOD they are great they ae heading to LUCIFIER which was my place in my five days guys forget about GOGOS and BEER BARS freelancers girls in the clubs such as TONY'S and LUCIFER are great we went dancing in both places by the way TONY'S PRICES IN THE NEW YEAR was totally absurd 400 BAHT for a bear now we walked togther me and the 2 girls from club to club then we went eating THAI FOOD as I adore spicey food they liked that and then they told me if I want them both sure and how much I will pay them I said 2000 baht for both and guys this is ok since it was new year eve I qouted bar fine and living dolls 2000 bath.

We head to the hotel no problem I was lucky that night they did not ask for their papres anyway shower then I had I nice threesome session.

In the morning one more pop kisses and Good BYe.

DAY 2,

Walked to the beach I did not like the water really sucks soi decided to go back to the hotel rest by the pool nice novel.

After that I had to sleep went had lunch at PINKY LADY resturant on walking beach not recommend the soup was afwul and the lobaster was not good.

Back to the hotel change a clothes, nice shower head to the action now I was turned on by the no of russians and the yellow hair and big bodies I checked with a mate from KUAWIT POLO guys the prices are absurd 350 USD for a session fuck them I said to the mate good bye as he was totally drunked and acting like a grazy falang the poor guy drank so many TIQILLA and I told him to go home I met him at a beer bar infront of TONY's and we have done a nice cruise in gogos' went to lucifier and now I sopt hot russian she has nice body I grab my ass and offer her a drink she answer why? I tell her I would love to buy her a drink PINACOLADA I got the drink we dance she was very hot alhtough snobish she is a baby doll anyway she was looking to another friend of her which was dancing with another guy she keep asking me what do I want I kept telling her I love her company finally she said she is leaving fuck after I am hard and ready to take care she said she is going to POLO gogo to meet a friend I follow tell her that I would love to spend the night with her and give her 200 usd she told me are you crazy and she went to POLO after I saw her dancing with customers I realized that she works there may be she skip for an hour or two that night I learned a lesson screw russions and other nationalties I am here for TGs only it was late I was fucked up and went back home and huged the pillow.

DAY 3

A friend of mine asked a favor so I cut him a deal and then headed to the pool where I read CHRISHTON'S SATE OF FEAR nice book then around 3 I felt horney head to SABAI LAND and SABAI ROOM nothing interesting after that to SABAI DEE and wait for 45 minutes and picked no 216 now she looks young and sex but when she GOD what did I get my self into she was old and not nice at all however I had to do the session the soapy massage was ok but I did not want to do boom boom she sucks with a condom now icant finish she do me a hand job and now I said ok boom boom fews secs I finish then tip her and said to my self no more soapy very tricky or may be I should get my self a glasses.

Went to STAR DICE resturant guys that was a real Gem nice food and amazing service after that to the hotel and while I was heading to my night hunting I find some hot real fair skin walking in soie 2 and smile to me saying where you go walking I said now let me walk with you and buy you a drink she said in a very sexy voice that she was heading to see a customer but no problem we walk side by side till walking street she was a gr888 company name Ross we laugh talk her english was good we head to lucifer she don't like we have a drinks and she then take me to a nice pub in the begining of walking street we spend 3 amazing hours where there is a man who sing and act like the KING ELVIS it was adorable show after that to lucifier danc e for an hour back to the hotel no boom boom as I was tired in the morning nice session for 40 minutes she gave me her number I said I will call and deep I'm myself I know I will not as usual I want something new. I gave her 1500 bath she really worth it and if she asks more I would have give her

DAY 4,

Same as above well as for the night I spot a real knock out which turn to be a great pain in the ass her name was FAW she had a great boobs so I walk after her she has a friend who serve TIQILA beside TONY'S complex I tell her I like her we head to lucifer she drinks like crazy we get out of Lucifer she wants to go eating THAI food ok but the only problem that we took TAXI to my hotel hoping that there are resturants still open no fucking resturant and the hotel wants to charge me 450 BAHT to get me a deliver fuck I tell her to go to the room I go searching around the area untill I find a man and his wife serving THAI food I got the food go back she opens she said she is so tired no wait I try to cuddle I tell her at least eat the food she said no wait a moment then askher to take a shower she does then she eat we do a breif encounter she even sucks with condom few seconds I am finish in the morning I gave 1500 bath I know dose not worht it I tell her I will be leaving today which was a lie as I was leaving the next day.

Day 5,

NOW that was eden day after finishing the pool I decided to find eden I know the address you told me guys SOI DAINNE LK METRO it took two hours to go there and when I am there I find no sign what the hell I find loliata I even fins the ARECA LODGE hotel located in the main street and I thank GOD for SABAI LODGE the hotel is far away from the action and they were very rude when I contacted them to reserve a room there anyway. I had this bad news from a guy I asked I am in the right place and Eden was indeed open but one of the partners died on the new year eve so they closed it and the guy informed the place will be re-open next week but not sure if it will be still Eden guys I did not know that Marc has a partner I was really sad about this it my last night and I was reserving Eden to the last day anyway back to have early dinner. Hit walking street for the last time Lucifer, Tony no luck now time is runing I meet with a nice ISEREALI GUY who I met yesterday take me to living dolls where he was sitting with some of his friends he said to me pick what ever you would like two dray my attention hmm unfortunately they were already bar fined I say bye to my ISEREALI friends head to TONY and now as soon as I enter I find JOVA and she was a stunner sitting with couple of friends now the same hip hop dancing drinks we kisses now after an hour I thought she will be mine and then she excused herself to the bath room lciing her firend with me she dance and tell me she will get soon now that happened two times and I am not an idiot now I got to see where she is and now the **** is dancing with another guy I have nothing against that but she can tell me from the early beinning so I don't get attached to her besides I am kind of emtional not that I will fall in love with her but guys you know I prepared my self to fuck that body so mentally and emtionaly I want this specific girl once she saw she ran and now she comes back to my table I said that if she has another plans for tonight no problem after that she said she will go to the WC again now I start to talk to her sister or friend what iever I like her and want her she comes back and now she say if I want her I should give her money now in my self where is the girl who were with me couple of hours ago I say money no problem I can give you whatever you want 2000 2500 even 3000 she said ok and she goes dancing now I said to my self fuck the ***** and turn to the first girl infront of me I decided to buy her and her firend a drinks now I feel sick about the whole situation why do my last night turn like that she comes back and pull my hand she is totally drunk I tell her she is free to do whatever she like too I pay for the drinks of the two girls tell them I myself want to go the bath room I go to my girl like a sissy I know guys you will all hate me for that I tell her want to talk to her I ask her why she have to act in such bitchy attitued where is my sweet baby and her friend watch I tell her its my last night she said ok and that I have to give her money I said mo problem but she must trust me we go together to lucifer hand in hand dance like crazy kiss each other a long french kiss for about 20 mins and then we go eating THAI FOOD we head to the hotel shower boom boom was gr88 then wake in the morning it was my last day head to od somethings I return back she was still asleep I go sleeping in her arms we do another great boom boom have lunch at stra dice resturant kisses good bye.

Shopping in the afternoon for firiends and family get my two suits which were being done book a taxi then LEAVE PARADIS heart broken 8. 15 pm.

Well guys now I am back to my real world.

Cheers

Thailand is Heaven

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I pity you my friend. It always sucks being back in the real world. Nice report.

JRide

Lipoman
01-10-07, 06:31
Hi Guys,

Just curious; I searched and couldn't find the answer to this question: What is the average or typical travel time between Suvarnabhumi Airport and Pattaya Beach?

I read Kimo29's post and was shocked to read it took him 2 hours to reach Pattaya.

Originally Posted by Kimo29

"After that I headed to pattaya there was no traffic jam since it was the new year eve humm took us about 2 hours to reach my hotel SABAI LODGE very nice hotel..."

Thanks in advance as I'm making holiday plans as I write this post.

Lipoman

ThaiLearner
01-10-07, 11:55
Hi Guys,

Just curious; I searched and couldn't find the answer to this question: What is the average or typical travel time between Suvarnabhumi Airport and Pattaya Beach?

I read Kimo29's post and was shocked to read it took him 2 hours to reach Pattaya.

Originally Posted by Kimo29

"After that I headed to pattaya there was no traffic jam since it was the new year eve humm took us about 2 hours to reach my hotel SABAI LODGE very nice hotel..."

Thanks in advance as I'm making holiday plans as I write this post.

Lipoman

Depends on the traffic and how mad your taxi driver is its about 100 miles so 90 to 120 mintues is about right

Almotu
01-10-07, 11:56
Please guys use your head . . . stop quoting someone's entire report when you are not responding to anything specific inside it. It is a complete waste of space!

Almotu
01-10-07, 12:21
I don't usually post negative comments but after such a crappy session at the SABAI DEE soapy I can not help myself.

Got there at about 2pm and the selection was about a dozen girls. Initially I had my eye of #165 but sitting in the fishbowl she did not smile or make eye contact with any customers. Looked like she did not want to be there.
Then #144 came into the fishbowl . . . all sunshine & light. Smiling and waving at me, she was chatting up the other girls and was the life of the party. She was tall (5' 8" or so) with a C cup rack pretty face too. I was sold. In the room she told me her name was OY (not sure the spelling but same as Spanish for today "HOY"). She was all business in the room, nary a smile then. Forget about kissing. CBJ. Had to grab her C's and only lightly but she moved my hand away from her nipples and said 'hurt her'. She mounted me for about 20 strokes then told me to do her. She had put so much lube gel in her box that it was like fu*king in honey, eww! Without DFK or any kind of touching at all from her part, I soon lost my wood.

I wanted to change condoms and try another position but she just gestured that I should come manually as I had "no power". I started to give me a HJ and I soon finished. I got dressed, waved bye bye and walked straight out before she could hit me for a tip. I had bought her a 100BHT iced coffee when we got to the room because the attendent was all over me.

Bottomline, I am trying to persuade some guys to NOT give this c*nt any business. She looks great but the sex is loveless.

So AVOID #144 "Oy" @ SABAI DEE. 1600BHT + her drink (down the toilet)

Magna White
01-10-07, 16:14
I don't usually post negative comments but after such a crappy session at the SABAI DEE soapy I can not help myself.

So AVOID #144 "Oy" @ SABAI DEE. 1600BHT + her drink (down the toilet)
My last experience with Sabai Dee & Sabai Land was last September. Girls there tend to rush through and get you out in 40 min instead of the 90 min told by the receptionists. #165 at Sabai Dee was ok but business like. I did try her last time. The money could be spent at beer bars or gogos with much enjoyable times. Just my two cents.

Billy Ibrox
01-11-07, 20:22
My mates and me should be spending the next the months in Pattaya. As I don't want to get as fat as fuck, I want to work out in a gym. I was thinking of Gold's on Soi 9 or Tony's Gym in Third Road but that is a bit far from the action and Tony strikes me as a bit of a prick. I expect to stay in a cheap place around Soi Diana. Anyone got a good recommendation for a gym?

Also, are all the diving shops much of a muchness. I intend to do some diving to get away from the chick and keep me occupied during the day.

As regards women, I intend to scout out a few reliable ladues for an odd fuck. I don't want some bike stuck around me for all three months but I don't want a 3 month fuckathon either. My usual was to get 5 or 6 Beach Riad babes and rotate them on a job sharing basis. Easy ans zero commitments.

Although we will probably do a few rounds of gold, it is not realy my thing and we have plenty of that here anyway. Diving, working out, drinking and fucking should do it for me. Any tips on the first two welcome.

Run Mann
01-12-07, 01:05
If your requirement is to be close to the of the action, there is an adequate Gym above Champion a Go-Go in the middle of Walking Street. I belive the owner of Champion is also the owner of the Gym. Acrea Lodge, a reasonable-priced Hotel near the Soi Diana Inn area also has a couple of machines in their version of a Gym.


My mates and me should be spending the next the months in Pattaya. As I don't want to get as fat as fuck, I want to work out in a gym. I was thinking of Gold's on Soi 9 or Tony's Gym in Third Road but that is a bit far from the action and Tony strikes me as a bit of a prick. I expect to stay in a cheap place around Soi Diana. Anyone got a good recommendation for a gym?

Although we will probably do a few rounds of gold, it is not realy my thing and we have plenty of that here anyway. Diving, working out, drinking and fucking should do it for me. Any tips on the first two welcome.

LittleBigMan
01-12-07, 03:16
Might be too far for you but there is a Gym on Sukhumvit just down from Central Pattaya Rd. I think it might be call World Gym, it is across the road from the Index furniture store, you can't miss it, it has a big muscle man cartoon at the entrance. As for diving I don't partay accept for diving into pussy.

LBM

Billy Ibrox
01-12-07, 10:58
thanks for that guys. i guess the thing to do is get a motorbike for a day and suss out what is on offer. the gym is the main thing and i will just price a few places. the dive shops make most of their money from classes so that is a factor. a few dives a week would be nice just to break the routine. the gym is the main thing.

i notice how the bargirls develop a spare tire from sitting around and getting fucked. the way pattaya is going i think the best thing is to have a holiday and just treat them as a disposable occasional extra. they are getting a new clientele there and russian families and backpackers would mean the profits fall into different pockets. pattaya is just so handy.

beach road is a pity as it always made for an interesting stroll. now it wil lbe just a pretty keep fit joggers' track. all good things.

still, god never closes one door without opening another. even if half of the freelancers split, that means a lot more must be hanging around waiting for some kind soul like me to fuck them. any word on the latest fuck rates?

i wonder are the ladyboys doing more straightforward crime now like mugging, as beach road is gone. i also rtff and note with some alarm but big bribes guys bringing cigarettes into thailand had to pay. the fines of $5,000 or so seemed excessive. i wonder has anyone experience on changing attitudes from the cops etc. the proper tihng to have done would be confirep001e the cigs and give a stern warning.

SexWithSmile
01-13-07, 04:23
Club Boesche – threesome:

I had to try this one – there was so much talk about it, the paradise of the lesbians leaking each other in a jacuzzi while you sit in a couch and enjoy your Gin & Tonic. Well, not exactly. I guess you must arrive at the opening minute to secure your place. It was a Friday night, at 9: 00 am, the ground floor is quite busy. At 10: 00 am, it is totally packed, and people must go upstairs, some standing. Music is a mix of loud techno with some hints of eurotrash. Girls are good at dancing, they really move their body. From 9: 00 to 11: 00, I did not see any lesbian show, so either they are hiding somewhere, or they were on strike. They were a lot of single customers just watching the show without much participation with the girls.

Now I must say that I had the time of my life. I was quickly approached by one of the "show" girl who displays signs of a complete nymphomaniac. "Show girls" quicky take off the pants and start playing with you. I asked her to bring one of her friends (the more the merrier), and I must say that with the increase of the excitement, and a few lady drinks, I spend a couple of hours kissing her body, tits and pussy. And inserting a finger just for the fun while the other friend was banging me from behind my seat. It is a little bit narrow here, and I have to apologize to my neighbours. Bar fine is Thb 1000 for the show girl and 600 for the regular one, and you must negotiate with the mama-san (very sexy, type of dominant secretary with some hints of lesbianism) as she first wanted to give me a short-time bar fine. Drinks remain reasonable (Thb 110 for your G&T or a small tequila for the girl, who swallows it in one shot). There is no pressue as it was me who offered the drinks, they did not ask for one every 5 minute. So I spent Thb 1000 on all the drinks, but had a great fun.

We got out at midnight, they did not want to go for a late disco as they were already a little bit drunk (so it’s a good investment). Just some noodles on the street, and the hotel (I currently stay at the Residence Garden, which offers large decent suites with a terrace, but not nothing luxurious and simple bedding).

Girls are very sympathetic, always laughing, make you feel at ease, and quickly became horney. So that’s good and I would say, sincere: one pumps you while you suck the other (and she likes it), fuck one, fuck the other, go back to the first one, and some good orgasm here. I won’t say "oh, I came 50 times" in this forum. But of course guys, there is a lack of training here. It’s not like 2 good pros of a massage parlour. Also, despite their original promise, there was no prospect of real lesbianism, so my dream of banging a 69 couple has not yet materialized. This is not a TP3 (The Perfect Threesome). Maybe with some adequate teaching. Also, English is very limited, they are not on the intellectual side, and forget anal, any attempt will be met by the classic reply "me not lady boy".

It’s 10: 00 am, and they are having their breakfast. It was a real long time, they did not play games with me. They are fun, with their limits. Maybe I’ll be back to the Club Boesche.

PS: For newbies to Pattaya like me, I did not know that soi 16 is far away from soi 15. So I spent time walking there. Get a map.

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SidTheSexist
01-13-07, 10:24
My last night in Patts tonight. Ive been in and out of the place over the last 3 weeks and what strikes me the most this time round is the amount of Russians and Ladyboys. Theyre everywhere.
Sid

Opebo
01-13-07, 14:31
My last night in Patts tonight. Ive been in and out of the place over the last 3 weeks and what strikes me the most this time round is the amount of Russians and Ladyboys. Theyre everywhere.
Sid

I've been in and out lately as well Sid, and I must say I see far fewer ladyboys now that Beach Road has been shut down all night. The police seem to be engaging in a brutal campaign against both the harmless katoey and their sisters the freelancers. I will say though that this afternoon within an hour of my arrival I was barebacking a female streetwalker anally, so Pattaya is still the best, even in its current Police State condition.

There were, however, far fewer girls out this afternoon than I have ever seen during the day. I also took a look on the beach around Soi Six and that slim homeless girl who used to always hang around there was - still there! This in spite of the horrible upmarket looking construction project there in front of the charming abandoned hotel. You know, the one just to the North of Soi Six and Beach Road. The homeless girl (a bareback anal queen by the way) told me that they knock everything down but 'not me'. Her statement gave me hope, somehow, though I did not take her this time - she's looking a bit rough.

Let us take a moment, brothers, to think back to those days in Thailand when most half-finished buildings were abandoned, not under construction. A magical time.. we can only hope it returns.

SexWithSmile
01-14-07, 07:29
This second night, the crowd was in general more manageable. I went there early so I could secure a seat in the couch to enjoy the “leaking” show, which started sharp at 9:00 pm. I must say that there isn’t much rotation in the act and the girls for that show – they are always the same 2 girls, with one of them quite friendly and pierced through every visible hole. Their acting is very explicit, and the tongue must be very musculated as they do that for hours with only some short coffee breaks. I don’t know about you, but for me a 69 starts to tire my tongue after 5 minutes. So in general, it is an interesting show to watch, comfortably sitting, but it becomes very repetitive. Also, I am not sure that taking these 2 girls home would be an authentic experience if they have already leaked each other for 3 hours. The other show girls are charged at Thb 1000 bar fine, and they are quite fun dancing naked, but they did not do any lesbian act.

I made the mistake of taking the 2 same girls from yesterday, expecting the same first class service. Unfortunately we all know that go-go girls service is inconsistent, depending on their moods and the quantity of tequila’s or other substances they may have taken. Again they showed their limits, with very mechanical hand and blow-jobs, and total lack of imagination in penetrative positions – even though I dare to say that they were quite emotional at the time of orgasms. Nothing to complain about, but I shall spend the last night searching for some novelty (I guess Diamond and Misty may provide some excitement).

We also paid a visit to the Lucifer disco, which was totally overcrowded by many less-than-savoury male characters of all nationalities. The carnage in case of a fire there would make the Bangkok bombings pale in comparison. If it were not for the Thai girls, I wouldn't mind about that kind of natural selective cleaning.

Almotu
01-14-07, 10:27
Your experience at Club Boesche is completely different from mine when I was there last week, twice. Both times I was there around 10pm to Midnight and the dancers were hot. It was pretty cool to see the naked dancers on the upstairs thru the glass floor (ceiling) the 'lesbian' show in the bathtub was pretty tame (I've seen hotter action @ another gogo whose name escapes me at the moment)

My main point was both my buddy and I were approached by several rounds of overly agressive hostesses that sat down next to us without our invitation & asked for lady drlnks. The dancers that we did invite for a drink were physically hot but kept on excusing themselves to go back on stage to dance. Needless to say, we made no love connections there.

BTW, can you tell us how much you paid each girl after LT? The show girl and the regular one. But I am glad you had a good time there & thanks for sharing it with us.

Almotu

SexWithSmile
01-15-07, 06:04
Misty agogo is one of the numerous agogo's of Soi Pattayaland No 2. I went there on Sunday night at 8: 00 pm. It was quite empty. A good selection of various types of girls, music is varied (rock, modern hits, trance, and some euro-trash) and blasted at a decent volume. The decoration is standard, with might be considered as an overload of black light which covers the physical defects of the girls.

Although their internet site boasts some erotic shows, I didn't see any and the mamasan confirms that there is none. Without explaining whether they ever have some. Girls take off their bras sometimes, and are dressed with a cute mini mini-skirt without panties, so if you start to flash one, she will lift her skirt as an eye-wink.

Following my just-regular experience of yesterday at Boesche (see report), I was wondering about another threesome, and I started to approach this idea with a little one. Around 7/10. Very minute, Lao-style face, but very friendly. She was immediately enthusiastic, and introduced me to her partner. A bigger girl (but not chubby) who showed her age, but also very funny and talkative. I was considering the other options, as they did not score so high on my scale, but the little one came with an impossible-to-refuse offer: a discount for the long time, making the total price about half of what I paid at Boesche. So who care about a 6, 7, 8 or 9, the important is to have fun.

Out we went back to hotel (Residence Garden), with the friendly middle-aged lady receptionist always smiling at me when seeing my 2 guests.

Considering the average size of a Thai girls, and their preference for the classical missionary position, the problem is that you usually only see the color of the pillow at the time of the orgasm. Hence the advantage of a threesome. These 2 girls were not shy. But not lesbians either. So I could easily move from one to the other, fingering both together, dogging one and kissing the other, so at least I had a better view and touch feelings at climax time.

Good experience, and surely very good-value. Misty charges Thb 600 bar fine without exception (no higher barfine for show-girls here). The girls stayed the whole night, but I had to leave Pattaya at 8: 00 am and be back to my work (from where I am writing this report.)

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Almotu
01-15-07, 14:25
Must remind myself to check out Mistys and Classroom next time. Did the girls make you change condoms each time you switched? Take any photos?

Sounds like you had FUN but making that morning flight always SUCKS.

SexWithSmile
01-15-07, 15:51
Must remind myself to check out Mistys and Classroom next time. Did the girls make you change condoms each time you switched? Take any photos?

Sounds like you had FUN but making that morning flight always SUCKS.Thanks God yes, they were quite educated on the condom story.

Sorry I haven't taken photos. I know I should get equipped.

Thanks god I am not on a flight home - simply a taxi back to Guiotto's place.

Have fun too.

SidTheSexist
01-16-07, 08:04
One thing I pondered last night regarding Pattaya. Why have all these policemen and volunteers running round the beach every night like kids playing catchy kissy, in order to improve the appearance of the place yet they dont give a flying fuck about the thousands of disgusting street dogs roaming around? They might be tame but I sure dont like walking past them at anytime of the day. If they cant get over one Buddhist law in order to cull these beasts, why should they infringe on the age old rule, "up to you" and prevent the FLs from going about their business??
Sid
Btw, I never made my flight out on sunday, so Im still around. Happy days!!

SexWithSmile
01-16-07, 09:02
One thing I pondered last night regarding Pattaya. Why have all these policemen and volunteers running round the beach every night like kids playing catchy kissy, in order to improve the appearance of the place yet they dont give a flying fuck about the thousands of disgusting street dogs roaming around? days!!I suppose because that they can fuck (either litteraly or simply humiliate) the FL's, but not the dogs.

Meaty
01-16-07, 10:29
One thing I pondered last night regarding Pattaya. Why have all these policemen and volunteers running round the beach every night like kids playing catchy kissy, in order to improve the appearance of the place
If they really wanted to clean up the place, they might remove all of the stupid f&^$ing western parents with their young kids, sitting in makeshift, crapy restaraunts all along Walking Street into the late hours. What in your right mind, as a parent, would you be thinking, to take your young children there for ??? And what is it with not wearing a shirt or t-shirt in pattaya ? Why must 50% of the dickheads march around without shirts on all night ? I spent 1 night in Pattaya over New Year, probably 1 of 3 nights in my 7+ years of living in Bangkok, all it did was re-inforce the reputation Pattaya has and the stereotype of the majority of people there.
And Soi 6, geez, what a waste of time, apart from being cheap there is absolutely no reason to go, the touchy bars in Soi Cowboy are streets above Soi 6. Sorry guys, Pattaya just ain't worth it.

Terry Terrier
01-16-07, 13:00
And what is it with not wearing a shirt or t-shirt in pattaya ? Why must 50% of the dickheads march around without shirts on all night ?

In all my visits to Patts I seem to have missed this sight, just as I've missed the constant farang brawls that other posters like to describe.

Here are some links to You Tube videos of Walking Street taken on busy evenings:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N29qokMAzfE
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wnqs6QsoM8&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhWi6nlgLKM&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joVEWlDF86s

The videos are obviously 'staged' because all the men are wearing shirts :D.

Gladiator
01-16-07, 20:06
In all my visits to Patts I seem to have missed this sight, just as I've missed the constant farang brawls that other posters like to describe.


That makes 2 of us.

Sometimes I wonder whether there are in fact 2 Pattaya’s and these guys are talking about the second one, the one that that I haven’t visited yet, where shirtless drunkards fight among themselves 24/7 and all girls are ugly.

Thai 007
01-17-07, 03:59
Hello,

I'm planning on taking my first trip to Thailand in March.

I'm so overwhelmed with all the opinions and information, and I don't want to regret this trip.

I do not like crowds all the time ( I need some peace and quiet to balance it out), I would like options (places to party, places to relax, I don't like extremes all the time), a nice quiet hotel that allows bar girls to come back, hot thai girls, and a nice beach to lay out in.

As far as expectations of women, I'd like to experience a threesome, many short times and GFE with a sweet/fun thai.

Does anyone have any suggestions where I should travel to? ie Bkk or pattaya. And how I should go about it?

And yes, I've done my research but have seen many conflicting opinons.

Greatly appreciated,

Thai 007

Almotu
01-17-07, 16:47
[QUOTE=Thai 007]
I do not like crowds all the time ( I need some peace and quiet to balance it out), I would like options (places to party, places to relax, I don't like extremes all the time), a nice quiet hotel that allows bar girls to come back, hot thai girls, and a nice beach to lay out in.

I think PATTAYA is your best bet. It fits all your requirements. Believe me, you will not regret going there. If you like peace and quiet, just avoid staying at a hotel on BEACH Rd, Walking Street and any of the significant bar Soi's like 7 & 8. You can always stay in Jontiem and travel in for the action. North Pattaya is also an option.

As for girl friendly hotels, I think about 95% of them are. Just ask if you can have 'guests' or if there is a joiner's fee. Some will ask for the girls to leave their IDs at the front desk and that's the only hassle.

I have only been to BKK/PTY three times and I am hooked . . . it will be my yearly Christmas/New Year's destination until I find a comparable place for whoring around during the holidays! I am open to suggestions.

Horatio
01-17-07, 18:35
Hello,

I'm planning on taking my first trip to Thailand in March.

I'm so overwhelmed with all the opinions and information, and I don't want to regret this trip.

....

As far as expectations of women, I'd like to experience a threesome, many short times and GFE with a sweet/fun thai.


Thai 007

I seriously doubt you will regret your trip, either place you go.

I think that Pattaya will meet your needs. I would suggest that you have a clear idea of your expectations. Pattaya is a lot of fun if you just go along with the moment, but you will probably have better memories if you plan some of the trip. I did not have a threesome when I was there and I wish I had. I wanted to go to a blow job bar, but could not find one. I had a great time there and planned on going back soon, but that was over 2 years ago.

I think Roof Garden Inn would be a good place to stay if you want quiet,and inexpensive. They will send a taxi to the airport to pick you up if you want.

Good luck and have fun.

Horatio

Kcuf39
01-17-07, 20:28
Barebacking pussy maybe, but barebacking anally? Is that not taking the risk a bit far. How available is barebacking in your experience, Would like to fill some thai fuck toy pussy with lots of cum in Feb but still not sure. Must have been great in the '70 before all the Aids shit hit the fan. At least back then you could fuck bareback for ten day and fill at least 15 pussys and probably get nothing that a short course of antibiotics wouldn't clear!

SexWithSmile
01-18-07, 04:12
.......Would like to fill some thai fuck toy pussy with lots of cum in Feb but still not sure.....Any P4P girl who allows barebacking must have no concern at all of her health, is therefore likely to be infected, and I wouldn't even finger her pussy. Who would be stupid enough to go inside without a condom in that pit?

I know that our penis sometimes wants to breathe. A still dangerous, but more acceptable game is to let her play a little with yours organ bareback at the entrance. And have a condom ready with some lube. When you are well arosen, then put it and there you go.

But bareback penetration. Guys, stop being in denial! You wouldn't cross Sukhumvit Road with your eyes strap-covered, hoping for the best?

LittleBigMan
01-18-07, 04:35
Thai 007,

It will depends how long your trip is going to be?

If you just visit Pattaya your'e going to feel bad that you never got to experience BKK, and Nana Parking Lot and NEP. So depending on when your flight gets in and suggest you stay in BKK, for 1 and 1/2 day and then head to Pattaya for the majority of your trip, if for some reason you don't care for Pattaya you can cancelled and head back to BKK. This way to can experience both.

Good Luck, LBM

Kcuf39
01-18-07, 12:02
I probably agree with SexWithSmile about barebacking not being very smart but then look at Asian Rain who barebacks all the time with a massive range of pussy and seems OK. I envy his ''bottle just a little bit and all the fun he must have depositing loads of cum into numerous thai and S>E> Asian pussy. He must have loads of sprogs offsprings or do the thai girls flush it if they get a bun in the oven?

Think I will probably continue to stay safe in Feb and cover up! Pity I missed the good old days.

ThaiLearner
01-18-07, 16:21
Hello,

I'm planning on taking my first trip to Thailand in March.

I'm so overwhelmed with all the opinions and information, and I don't want to regret this trip.

I do not like crowds all the time ( I need some peace and quiet to balance it out), I would like options (places to party, places to relax, I don't like extremes all the time), a nice quiet hotel that allows bar girls to come back, hot thai girls, and a nice beach to lay out in.

As far as expectations of women, I'd like to experience a threesome, many short times and GFE with a sweet/fun thai.

Does anyone have any suggestions where I should travel to? ie Bkk or pattaya. And how I should go about it?

And yes, I've done my research but have seen many conflicting opinons.

Greatly appreciated,

Thai 007

You could try Patong Beach Phuket this has a great beach where you can relax but then you have then action in Bangala rd .

Naughty
01-19-07, 02:50
I probably agree with SexWithSmile about barebacking not being very smart.

I think the guys who constantly post about barebacking and having three-hole bareback sessions with these girls, who, by and large are some of the most well used women on earth, can virtually always be placed into one of these four categories:

1. Poseur who is simply posting his fantasies and who may have never even done PFP.

2. Suicidal person who for concious or unconcious reasons wants to die, but doesn't have the stones to do it the fast way.

3. Stealth morality crusader who thinks he can scare people off by pretending to be one of the sadly numerous people who fit into classification number four.

4. Already infected sociopath who is trying, conciously or unconciously, to "get even" with the woman and culture that facilitated his becoming infected by intentionally infecting as many people as possible.

Have fun, but be careful unless you want to get way more than you bargained for.

ps: My intent isn't to flame or attack anyone. I have given this some thought since reading a few recent posts, and this is the best explanation for this behavior I can think of.

If anybody has other ideas or comments, I'd be interested in reading them.

1Ball
01-19-07, 04:01
Naughty, you forgot number 5.
The guy who thinks he is invincible, and it will never happen to him.

Billy Ibrox
01-19-07, 14:23
1ball and naughty,

ye forget a very important group: the group who have been led to believe they are invincible. it doesn't matter whaht o****, asian rain etc post. in fact, their posts are very useful because they show there are barebackers out there. there is also nigel who does the bareback porno skin flicks etc etc. plus most of these women have thai guys fucking them and they are a staple of the yabba trade.

we cannot stop asian rain and o**** doing their stupid thing. but we should protect outrselves unless we want to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) blades.

these women have low esteem, unsteady cash flows etc and are easy push overs for barebackers. that means lots of diseases to go round. just ask at the clinics.
o**** likes to wind up by pretending he issome kind of fucking liberal just because he anally fucks peasants. but plenty are at it. and the well used ones like it up the arse in any event. bottom line is they have pussies like sewers. cover up.

Naughty
01-19-07, 15:33
Ah, yes. Good point, 1Ball.

I sometimes refer to this type as "young, dumb, and full of cum".

I probably would have fallen into this category myself some years ago. Thank goodness the hiv pandemic hadn't gotten established back when I first discovered the joys of LOS! Lordy, what fun it was.

Tabarry
01-20-07, 03:23
The last 4 posts were well thought out and very perceptive. I have a very tolerant Thai wife who has lived with me in Canada for the past 9 years. I say she is tolerant because I have revisited Thailand 5 times alone in the past 9 years. The last thing she does is throw a box of rubbers in my suitcase the night before I leave with the reminder.."You used to get a rash now you die". My 2 cents!

Freeler
01-21-07, 05:31
People,

After visiting Pattaya for a second time recently a few remarks on the BR situation.
Police are checking girls after 7pm and the girls tend to disappear by that time. either make your choice before or expect to do some deeper searchin', for instance along Klang near BR or on the city side of BR.
More and more BR girls change to the phone to select customers, some have a pretty long list of farang names in their phonebook. This apparently works well for them - a few pre-arranged encounters failed to materialize because some phone dude was there before me.
Quality: I was surprised by the quality! No duds at all, no haa-siip-haa-siip efforts, just big bangs for my bucks. Damn, it was good! And, very unfreelerly, the faces on them girlies looked good too, as did their bodies.
Prices asked: B300-500
Prices paid: B300-B500 and well fukken worth it!

DRRonin
01-21-07, 08:05
The thing that bothers me most about the guys who proudly go bareback is that its all about them - there it's my life, I can do as I please attitude. I could truly care less if they catch something and their dick falls off or worse - what does bother me is that they often use pressure or money to get the girls to do it - and could care less about either passing something very bad on to them or getting them pregnant - just total selfish assholes on every count and I would not even want to get near them.

DRRonin
01-21-07, 08:13
[QUOTE=Almotu][QUOTE=Thai 007]
I do not like crowds all the time ( I need some peace and quiet to balance it out), I would like options (places to party, places to relax, I don't like extremes all the time), a nice quiet hotel that allows bar girls to come back, hot thai girls, and a nice beach to lay out in.

[I think PATTAYA is your best bet.]

Ya - most definitely Pattaya. I actually much prefer Bangkok and can only take Pattaya for 3-4 days before I have to get back to reality in BKK. Pattaya is just some sex fantasy gone wild and everyone's IQ seems to drop about 40 points as soon as they enter (me included) because it becomes all about sex - thinking about it, planning it, pursuing it and doing it and the cycle begins again immediately. I like BK because it's like being in a real place but you get laid! Plus BK has no beach.

Billy Ibrox
01-21-07, 10:36
DRRonin: Pattaya is just some sex fantasy gone wild and everyone's IQ seems to drop about 40 points. It becomes all about sex. Thinking about it, planning it, pursuing it and doing it and the cycle begins again immediately.

Billy Ibrox: Pattaya is what you make it. The LBFMs are just there for a break from the drinking, diving, golf, clubbing etc. Just find, fuck, forget. What do oyu think the Russian families do all day long? Get with the programme.

DRRonin: The thing that bothers me most about the guys who proudly go bareback is that its all about them. What does bother me is that they often use pressure or money to get the girls to do it. Just total selfish assholes on every count and I would not even want to get near them

Billy Ibrox: Mongering is all about selfishness, getting your rocks off, pissing on them, whatever, It is not about love. Part of the process of growing up is to recognize human garbage.

Freeler: More and more BR girls change to the phone to select customers, some have a pretty long list of farang names in their phonebook. Prices paid: B300-B500 and well fukken worth it!

Feeler: You bear me out that there are more bargains around, The hookers with the cell phones show that there is a move to that end as getting a pitch is now hard but the sperm catchers without the long list of dummy farangs will have to sell their [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) flaps for less. That means more fun for me.

Anway, a few more days and it is LBFM time for me. If they had brains, these little brown toys would be dangerous. Still, because they can catch so many out, it shows there is more than one born every minute.

SexWithSmile
01-21-07, 14:44
The thing that bothers me most about the guys who proudly go bareback is that its all about them .... just total selfish assholes on every count and I would not even want to get near them.Unfortunately, even 10, 000 posts against bareback will not convince them to change their mind. While I understand that condom can be suffocating sometimes, good Thai pros know games that help to arise your excitement while being almost totally safe, and without risking to infect the girl. Just ask them, and they will oblige. And if they simply agree on BB, then just think about the other dozens of ugly, drunk arses who did it before.

Phantomtiger2
01-21-07, 19:38
I have a very tolerant Thai wife .
night before I leave with the reminder.."You used to get a rash now you die". !


Straight to the point and Very tolerant indeed. Hate to see her when she's really pissed at you--ha ha

Cheers
PT

Terry Terrier
01-21-07, 23:44
Part of the process of growing up is to recognize human garbage.

Billy,

You have often boasted on this forum of making big money from 'wide' business practices (and I'm not referring to your 'Martians' persona). Does this put you in the same trash can as Pattaya prostitutes, who often try to take mugs for a ride? Or does your exponentially better education mean that your behaviour should be more acceptable than theirs?

J Ride
01-22-07, 19:18
Hi Guys,

Well, it looks like I may be headed back to Pattaya for Songkran as a single man, finally! I was tied down by a Thai-Super ***** my last few visits. But, that is now water under the bridge. I will be returning with a couple of guys that have visited before and a couple that haven't. Here's the plan:

I want to rent a beach house with them somewhere around Jomtien. We'll be there for two weeks in April. I've been checking out various websites for listing, but I would love to hear of any suggestions you guys have. We are looking for a four to five bedroom house with all the amenities including a jacuzzi if possible. Fuck hotels; I'm sick of 'em. Service sucks and I figure with the money we'd all be paying for separate rooms we can just pitch in and get a house!

Any suggestions, websites, etc? Share your experience renting a house, e.g. do's, dont's, etc.

Thanks!

JRide

Daddy07
01-22-07, 20:15
I came across this bit of news today and was intrigued. Can you imagine the view this place would provide? Move over, Bangkok -- Pattaya is just getting better and better.

Daddy

"The City Government of Pattaya recently gave the go-ahead for the construction of 'Ocean One', a 91 story condominium tower that will ultimately rise to 367m (1204ft) in height.

Due to be completed in 2010, this will not only be the tallest building in Thailand but exceed any in Europe, South America, or Africa."

http://www.thailand-property-guide.com/?p=news/news-20060814a

Bill Miami
01-23-07, 00:52
J Ride I live in Pattaya. I don’t think your beach house idea is going to fly. These are the reasons. First, you’re not going to have transportation to and from the house. If you did find a place outside the city, you could try and hire a car and driver. But, to keep three guys happy coming and going, good luck. And that does not take into account the girls needs of transportation and the fact quite a few of them will not like to travel so far. Second, there are not any beach houses to rent any where close to Pattaya. Third, contrary to popular belief houses are not really safe in the surrounding area. They are broken into frequently.

I would recommend renting a high end luxury condo in Jomtien. There you will have access to transportation and be in a safe environment. There is a nice housing complex in Jomtien though, that is right behind View Talay II. You might be able to find a house there, and you will have access to transportation.

Below is a web directory I found that list the top real estate agents in Pattaya and Jomtien. I am sure you will find tons of listing for both houses and condos here. But, the problem with most of the houses is there way outside of town. Good Luck.

http://www.jomtien-pattaya-real-estate.com/

Billy Ibrox
01-23-07, 07:14
Anyone know the best way of decamping snakes from a pond? I have a little upcountry tart who lives near a pond and the snakes make their way into her house. This is a problem if I want to put my snake into her. It is also a problem for those people planning on staying outside of Pattaya.

A mongoose would do the trick but they kill all comers and they may not be legal in Thailand. Laying lime seems a waste of time. Too much of the fatalistic peasant about it.

J Ride: The price of short term apartments seems abnout the same price as hotels. You are looking for short term "luxury" accommodation so you must pay for it, I guess.

Mondo condo looks interesting but are there not many similar failed enterprises there. A major development like that would have to mean lots of changes, either the unlikely one of lots more streetwalkers or the more likely one of lots more Russian and Chinese tourists. I reckon, if it works, we will have to look outside for cheap, pussy filled holidays. What is worse, the prices for everything from boats to gyms would go up. This is good if you depend on the tourist business. Not so good for punters.

Terry Terrier, I have not the faintest idea what you are talking about. And I am not sure really care. Do you know anything about snakes? If you have some problem with a LBFM, just feed her gold. She will smile for you.

Let's see if I get lucky with looking for snake information as I was not so lucky with gyms and diving. Actually, this one is trickier as the others can be answered by a quick motor bike ride around Patts.

J Ride
01-23-07, 22:58
J Ride I live in Pattaya. I don’t think your beach house idea is going to fly. These are the reasons. First, you’re not going to have transportation to and from the house. If you did find a place outside the city, you could try and hire a car and driver. But, to keep three guys happy coming and going, good luck. And that does not take into account the girls needs of transportation and the fact quite a few of them will not like to travel so far. Second, there are not any beach houses to rent any where close to Pattaya. Third, contrary to popular belief houses are not really safe in the surrounding area. They are broken into frequently.

I would recommend renting a high end luxury condo in Jomtien. There you will have access to transportation and be in a safe environment. There is a nice housing complex in Jomtien though, that is right behind View Talay II. You might be able to find a house there, and you will have access to transportation.

Below is a web directory I found that list the top real estate agents in Pattaya and Jomtien. I am sure you will find tons of listing for both houses and condos here. But, the problem with most of the houses is there way outside of town. Good Luck.

http://www.jomtien-pattaya-real-estate.com/

Greatly appreciate the info. I had some of the same concerns about transportation, location and break-ins. None-the-less I'll check the site out.

Thanks again,

JRide

Phantomtiger2
01-23-07, 23:32
Anyone know the best way of decamping snakes from a pond? I have a little upcountry tart who lives near a pond and the snakes make their way into her house.
.

Before someone makes further comments, I will just say that I use to have a snake for a pet so I do know more about them than most of you non-National Geographic types.

First: by snakes, I'm assuming Billy's referring to the slittering reptiles and not some of you bastards--ha ha

In general:
There's No real way to clear snakes unless you get rid of all the things the snakes likes and lives on.

Food: have to clear and kill off all the rodents and lizards that the snakes feed on. But all these critters will eventually come back so will the snakes.

Shelter: clear out all the holes and burrows around all the surrounding fields.

Pond: drain or fill the pond if the snakes are the aquatic species.

House: seal up all holes and cracks that leads into the house. Even then its not 100% as snakes can crawl up side of house to enter thru a vent.

Like I said, no true way of getting rid of ALL of them.

So good luck as this is one of the things you have to accept when you live in the tropics. Remember that even Eden in Paradise had a snake.

PT (snakehunter)

Billy Ibrox
01-24-07, 03:25
Shelter: clear out all the holes and burrows around all the surrounding fields.Phantom: Thanks very much for this. I had the rest earmarked but forgot this one. Even snakes are afraid of snakes.

But they are just like rats. Get rid of the food supply and billets and they are gone. But lizards and frogs are mobile so a mobile predator like a mongoose seems necessary. Can I get mongooses/mongeese in Thailand or is there anything else would do? Lime etc seems like a waste of time. I am looking forward to tackling this problem but I don't see much prospect for success. And, as things currently stand, I don't facncy fucking her and visions of those 1940s' horror movies going through my head. Like the cobra coming down on the bed on me. I figure the best way is to go local and do what the locals do, which may not be much. The Buddha even liked snakes, priving there's nowt as strange as people.

As regards Pattaya itself, the omens do not seem good. There is too much pressure on the LBFMs. More Chinese tourists, more tailor shops, more military police, less freelancers. My plan is to hire a motorbike for a day or two and cruise around looking for gullible sperm catchers and keep a few of them on contract. The demise of Beach Road is a tragdy as it means we can't get a takeaway fuck to go with our other takeaways. I am thinking of nights when you don;t want to hit the bars but just get someone to squirt into. Just like Beach Road in its heyday. The price of progress I think.

Another thing is food. I am looking for cheap, healthy eating. I want small helpings and not these Western buffets. The problem with the Western breakfast buffets is they are hard to beat price wise but they lead to over eating which is bad. The dinner buffets are too late for me as unless you go dancing all night, you can't work off the calories. I reckon the best places are probably the roadside stalls catering to the locals. But the problem there is walking to them during the day under the hot sun. These minor problems (food and fucks) are probably best solved by simple routine.

Evil Penivel
01-25-07, 00:46
i was in pattaya jan. 14-19 and spent five straight nights in the company of one or more hell's angels, the likes of which have never been seen in oakland, ca. it was exactly the same high quality service as the eden club in bkk. that's not surprising, since most of the ladies at hell are on loan from eden bkk. last i heard, there are now four ladies who have been hired locally and eight from bkk.

[physically, the hell club is almost a copy of eden, down to the wallpaper and pictures on the walls. i've included some photos i took during my visit. the famous "yellow line" that demarcates the anal and non-anal teams is black and yellow striped in the hell club. the bar stools are covered in bright red leather and are more comfortable than in bkk.

the upstairs' session rooms - 12 in all - come in three sizes and are equipped with 29" tvs and dvd players. there are mirrors on the walls and ceilings so you never lose sight of the action. the second and third floors of the adjacent hotel each have six session rooms, with identical layouts. on each floor, there are two normal-sized rooms that comfortably accommodate two ladies and one guy, two larger rooms for multiple ladies with one guy and two party rooms for bigger groups. so far, the record has been eight ladies with six guys, according to marc (edenpapa).

there's already a lot of info about hell/eden elsewhere on the board (search for "eden"), so i won't repeat it. here's the link to the hell club's menu (http://www.thehellclub.com). the opening hours are a bit different in pattaya (3 p.m. to 3 a.m.) than bkk ( 1 p.m. to 12 midnight).

for the sake of guys who've never visited hell/eden, here's a rundown of what to expect. when you walk into the club, you'll be asked by one of the management staff if you've ever before been in the hell club or eden club. if you answer "no," you'll be shown a printed copy of the eden menu. you also have the opportunity at that point to order a drink if you wish, but it isn't mandatory. after you've perused the menu a few minutes, the manger will ask you if you have any questions. should you have questions at that or any other point, don't hesitate to ask them. the more you know, the easier it will be for you to make informed choices.

after the manager has answered your questions and explained anything that's unclear about the menu, he'll ask you if want to see a lineup. you can say "yes," and the manager will call for the ladies to assemble, or "no," in which case you can either think about things a while longer or finish your drink and leave. keep in mind the hell club and the eden club aren't gogo or drinking bars, there's no interaction with the ladies before you make your choice. you can't feel up a lady for the price of a drink under the guise of "having fun" or "getting to know her," so don't make an ass of yourself by trying.

let's assume you choose to see the lineup and the ladies have assembled. the ones on the left side of the striped line (your left, as you face them) do anal, the ones on the right side don't. you can pick one from the each side or both from the same side. you can also pick one lady and ask her to pick her partner, either from the same or other side of the line. it's very much "up to you." but if you want one or both of the ladies to provide a special service, you should discuss it with the manager to make sure you get a lady who includes that service in her repertoire. not all ladies provide every service. also, at the hell club, unlike eden bkk, it is possible to have an in-house session with just one lady.

now you can either pick two ladies - or three or four, whatever- and start your 90-minute session, or you can say "no." at no time will you ever be under any pressure to choose a lady, but it's also clear that if you're not interested in a session or takeaway, you should probably find another place to drink. the business of the hell club is providing pleasure, not selling booze to the maximus loserus species of drunk farang voyeur.

assuming you do choose to have a session, the ladies will lead you to a room, wash you cleaner than you've even been before and then the real fun begins. exactly how the session goes down is again, "up to you." it's your fantasy, you decide. you want a lot of oral, you'll get it. if you prefer more time spent on fucking in different positions, you can have it. faster? slower? harder? softer? the ladies are happy to oblige. you want a lesbian show that can be as interactive as you desire, that's the way it will be. don't like lesbian? they'll skip it entirely. the customer is king, you'll always get it the way you want as long as you remain within some very broad parameters.

a lot has been written in a humorous vein about dildos up the ass and guys getting fucked with strap-ons. certainly that's possible at hell/eden, but it's by no means part of every session. i've had roughly eighty sessions with eden ladies and within the first few weeks, i was asked twice if i might like to try a dildo in the butt. i said no and have never been asked again. prostate massage - that's a different matter. that's something i enjoy and at which the hell/eden ladies are very skilled. point is, the ladies will never do anything without asking you and you can always refuse any technique you don't fancy. i and others have asked eden ladies if there are customers who enjoy getting strap-on action up their hershey highways- "many, darling, many," has been the answer. same.same goes for the kinkier variations available at hell/eden, such as [CodeWord117] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117). a few customers want such action and a few of the ladies provide it, but it’s by no means standard.

once the session is over and you've come two, three or however many times, the ladies will clean you up and lead you back down to the bar. you can have a "calm down drink" if you choose, otherwise you pay the session fee and bid the ladies farewell. tips are always appreciated, but the ladies will never ask for or hint about tips.

the 90-minute in-house sessions are kind of like jumping in at the deep end of the sexual pool. some guys may prefer to start out softer and do an overnight takeaway session with a single hell club lady, then graduate to the multiple-lady sessions.

finally, several posters have in other threads commented that similar sessions are available at a lower price elsewhere in pattaya. certainly it is possible to pull two or more ladies from a number of venues, but those encounters will be similar to eden/pattaya only in the sense that they involve multiple ladies. the quality won't come within a light-year of what you get at the hell club. the ladies of hell/eden have a vibrancy and willingness to please - not to mention sexual skills - you just won't find anywhere else.

and that's a point, gentlemen, that i am prepared to argue until hell freezes over.

evil

Slim220
01-25-07, 08:13
Evil Penivel,

Damn. Thats one of the best posting I've ever read from beggining to end. Good shit dude. I'm definitely gonna try that shit out. How long was your flight? I'm assuming you came from Oakland right? I'm in Orange County thats why but and never flown from the states. Only Japan about 4 times. Anyways. Thanks for the info. Good shit once again.

J Ride
01-25-07, 19:44
Good report Evil. I haven't had the opportunity to visit Hell Club yet, but I plan on taking a trip there with my buddies sometime during April. I've really enjoyed Eden Club in BKK the few times I've gone and my brief interactions with Marc tell me that he's on top of his game. I'm sure his influence on Hell Club is no exception.

JRide

Almotu
01-26-07, 06:50
Thanks for the thorough reporting on the Hell Club. Sounds like fun, but I probably have to graduate to that level! The link you provided did not show the items on their menu, can you elaborate?

How much for two girls/90 mins and for the single girl option?

I will pay them a visit soon.

Gladiator
01-26-07, 22:07
Finally, several posters have in other threads commented that similar sessions are available at a lower price elsewhere in Pattaya. Certainly it is possible to pull two or more ladies from a number of venues, but those encounters will be similar to Eden/Pattaya only in the sense that they involve multiple ladies. The quality won't come within a light-year of what you get at the Hell Club. The ladies of Hell/Eden have a vibrancy and willingness to please - not to mention sexual skills - you just won't find anywhere else.

Evil

So, in summary, after a few decades Pattaya has now come to the next level thanks to this frog opening Eden (or Hell) in Pattaya too, right?

Now we can find what could never be found before in Pattaya, for decades, among its thousands of girls, so I suppose we should really be grateful to this pimping frog for bringing a few of his sub-standard, overaged and worn-out BKK hookers to Pattaya for our entertainment.

Probably some newbies will fall for it, but anyone who is familiar with the Pattaya scene will know by now that you don’t really need to go to Hell to find some demons.

Gladiator
01-26-07, 22:16
Not only can you find demons, but also angels…

Daring Mood
01-27-07, 11:10
Guys
Will be arriving in Pattaya in the next few days and would be interested to read your current thinking on where to get a real haircut (as in decent stylist, manicure, pedicure..), followed by massage, and, if the need arises, 'take out' or 'have in' FS. Curious as to the gems of feedback you'll provide. Any decent hair-dressers near you providing a bit of the old slap and tickle as well?
Just want to spoil myself before returning to frozen Siberia.
TIA
Daring Mood

Evil Penivel
01-27-07, 12:39
Thanks for the thorough reporting on the Hell Club. Sounds like fun, but I probably have to graduate to that level! The link you provided did not show the items on their menu, can you elaborate?

Here's the direct link to the Hell Club menu (http://www.thaigers.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2396). The menu should answer most of your questions.



How much for two girls/90 mins and for the single girl option?


The cost is 3,600B for 90 minutes with two ladies. It is a total, all-inclusive price that covers the use of the room as well the ladies' fees. No tipping is expected/necessary, but of course the ladies appreciate tips.

According to what I've read elsewhere, the inhouse single girl option is now off the Hell club menu. All-night (10 p.m. to at least 6.00 a.m.) takeaway of a single lady is still on the menu and costs 3,000B.

Evil

LittleBigMan
01-27-07, 20:18
did lbm, miss something? what is the address to hell/eden, from one of the picture it looks like it's near [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s!

Evil Penivel
01-28-07, 00:26
did lbm, miss something? what is the address to hell/eden, from one of the picture it looks like it's near [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s!

the hell club is just around the l-shaped corner from [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) on soi lk metro.
open the map for the exact location.

evil

Evil Penivel
01-28-07, 07:36
So, in summary, after a few decades Pattaya has now come to the next level thanks to this frog opening Eden (or Hell) in Pattaya too, right? Now we can find what could never be found before in Pattaya, for decades, among its thousands of girls...

Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying. The Eden Club offers services that aren't available anywhere else in Bangkok. Now the same concept has come to Pattaya in the form of the Hell Club.

Why does that bother you? Why are you resentful of something new? Of course, if you're suggesting that Eden-type sessions are readily available in Pattaya, maybe you could tell us exactly where. I put that challenge out a long time ago regarding Bangkok and NO ONE - zero, zilch, nada - has ever named a place when multiple-lady sessions can be arranged as quickly, easily or with the same guarantee of satisfaction as Eden.

And your remark about "a few of his sub-standard, overaged and worn-out BKK hookers" makes me think you've never actually been to the Eden Club, certainly never had a session there. Or am I wrong? When was the last time you were in either Eden BKK or the Pattaya Hell Club? If you haven't actually been there, on what do you base your rather sweeping opinions?



Probably some newbies will fall for it, but anyone who is familiar with the Pattaya scene will know by now that you don’t really need to go to Hell to find some demons.

I'm not exactly a newbie, I've been visiting both Bangkok and Pattaya since 1980. If you mean that women are widely available in Pattaya outside the Hell Club, yeah, that's true and you've demonstrated a real flair for the obvious. But I'll flip what you say - while a newbie may think a quality multi-lady session can be arranged on Soi 6 or Soi 3 or Beach Road, it takes an experienced punter to know the quality of the session and the ladies' performance won't be anything near the superior level of the Hell Club.

But flame wars are counter-productive. Why not write a report about a place you think is better than the Hell Club? I promise you I'll check it out on my next trip to Pattaya.

Evil

Opebo
01-28-07, 10:29
Of course, if you're suggesting that Eden-type sessions are readily available in Pattaya, maybe you could tell us exactly where.

Beach Road, of course, though it is no longer like falling off a log now that the police are there all the time. I had a great 2 girl 6 hole session there just a few weeks ago though. Better than anything I ever had at Eden (though don't get me wrong I do like Eden; it is just a bit overpriced and of course bareback is rarely available).

Babaluba
01-28-07, 10:51
Here's the direct link to the Hell Club menu (http://www.thaigers.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2396). The menu should answer most of your questions.

EvilSorry to mention that the link doesnt produce any good except proposing to register in another board. Can you post an updated link of the menue?

I am checking it out myself in some days, so not that important :)

Babaluba

Gladiator
01-28-07, 14:45
Evil,

You are right, I am not an expert in Eden/Hell, I’ve been in Eden only a couple of times, long ago, to see what all the hype was about. The second time I didn’t even take any girl as I didn’t like any.

The 2 girls I took in my first session were also average looking at best, but I wanted to try the famous ‘Eden experience’, which to this day I don’t know what it means.

I also remember a big roach running through the shower, but apparently it was included in the price: I didn’t have to pay extra for the roach.

Regarding the attitude and skills of the girls, yes, I agree that they were very good, a classical example of girls that make up with performance their lack of youth and beauty.

But I’ve experienced the same performance, and even better, from many other girls, some of them really beautiful and amateurish (in the sense of new to the business and not worn-out yet, unlike Eden's), so I don’t see where the Eden premium service is.

In the same way as I always ignore Eden in BKK, because it has nothing special to offer to me from what I’ve seen, apart from the free roach, I will also ignore it in Pattaya.

But if you like it and you are happy with the girls performance and ‘beauty’ and if you think it’s the best place in Thailand to go, good for you – enjoy it!

M P Lurker
01-28-07, 15:02
<cut>
I also remember a big roach running through the shower, but apparently it was included in the price: I didn’t have to pay extra for the roach.
<cut>Roaches are plentiful and normal in Thailand.

Could come out of a pipe anywhere.

Why focus on them?

Eden isn't a 5 star hotel!

I am very happy that Thailand lacks the problem of flys that I experience in the home country.

Bjblackowitz
01-28-07, 15:32
Tnx for this great Report EP:

If the service is the same as in BKK, then it is good, Never had a problem there.

I guess if you are into some real Banging sex without any GFE, eden / hell is the place to be.

If you like to pickup: BR / Disco.

If you like to drink a lot b4 banging : the Beerbars are you place.

IMHO it is a real Plus for PTY.

LittleBigMan
01-29-07, 01:48
Like most business, if there is no demand it won't be in business long! both opinions are valet. If you have the time to look and shop freely then you won't need Hell/Eden after you try it once. If you need to sneak around or just don't want the challenge of the hurt then it's one stop shopping at the Hell/Eden. Time will only tell who is right.

Mick Licker, Stay in the hotels because if you live on the other side of the tracks ( Sukhumvit ) you want flies you will find it there, years ago at my previous home ( particularly in May ) before you reach for your food each time you had to wave them off your food. I had chop sticks in one hand and a fly swap in the other. I had them on my head, walking on my face, on my arms on my legs, when I went to wash the dishes the roaches came out of the pipes. Live local you become local.

LBM

M P Lurker
01-29-07, 04:45
<cut>
Mick Licker, Stay in the hotels because if you live on the other side of the tracks ( Sukhumvit ) you want flies you will find it there, years ago at my previous home ( particularly in May ) before you reach for your food each time you had to wave them off your food. I had chop sticks in one hand and a fly swap in the other. I had them on my head, walking on my face, on my arms on my legs, when I went to wash the dishes the roaches came out of the pipes. Live local you become local.
<cut>
LBM
I must have been lucky to miss the fly season. But Thailand cannot compete with the level of flies in my home country.

Gladiator
01-29-07, 21:36
Mick,

If you miss them go to BKK and have lunch in that big shithole/restaurant opposite the Beer Garden – there is an army of flies waiting for you in there.

If you go on your own I recommend you order a lunch for 2: one for you and another one for them.

Terry Terrier
01-30-07, 02:00
Here's the direct link to the Hell Club menu (http://www.thaigers.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2396). The menu should answer most of your questions.



The cost is 3,600B for 90 minutes with two ladies. It is a total, all-inclusive price that covers the use of the room as well the ladies' fees. No tipping is expected/necessary, but of course the ladies appreciate tips.

According to what I've read elsewhere, the inhouse single girl option is now off the Hell club menu. All-night (10 p.m. to at least 6.00 a.m.) takeaway of a single lady is still on the menu and costs 3,000B.

Evil
Evil,

We can tolerate your spamming of the forum because your boss's workers provide a great, no-nonsense service. But could you please post links that work?

Evil Penivel
01-30-07, 22:54
Evil,

We can tolerate your spamming of the forum because your boss's workers provide a great, no-nonsense service. But could you please post links that work?

Like they say, Terry, one man's spam is another man's report of distinction.
In whose name are you speaking when you use the word, "we?'' The only one on this board in a position to tolerate or not tolerate any post is Jackson and as far as I know, he has no problem with anything I've written on Eden/Hell or any other subject.

And for whom do you imagine I work, edenpapa or Cerberus, the owner of the Hell Club? Are you claiming I own shares in Eden/Hell or that I work on a salaried basis? Or maybe just as a free-lancer? Not nice to throw out accusations unless you have something to back them up with, other than your own musings.

Start snapping or stop yapping, baby dog. It's just as logical for me to accuse you (or anyone else) who praises a place as having some sort of financial interest in it.

I know you thrive on silly flame wars, but I don't. I suggest next time you're in Bangkok or Pattaya, you pay a visit to either establishment and ask Marc or Cerberus face-to-face if I get any sort of compensation from Eden. I pay exactly the same fees for the ladies' services as everyone else.

But mea culpa, mea culpa, I did post a link that doesn't work. Here's the link to the site of The Hell Club (www.thehellclub.com). And in case it ceases to work, here's the menu of the Hell Club:

THE HELL CLUB
( Formerly The Eden Club )


1 MAN WITH 2, OR MORE LADIES

If unsatisfied with service, no charge.
Special fantasies ? Let us know.
All bisexual ladies, dildo, strap on.
Just show the ladies what you like.
Left side of the yellow line = anal sex.
All the ladies provide oral sex.

VIP MEMBERS HAVE PRIORITY

90 min. sessions, unlimited sessions.
1800 Bahts per lady

Take away (10pm up to 6am): 3000 Baht
EVERYTHING INCLUDED

You choose 2 ladies yourself, even better,
choose one, and let her choose the other.
Uniforms on request.

Visa, Mastercard, Amex (no extra charges for credit card use)

First timers are welcome just for a drink.
You are here for pleasure, not for drinking.

Evil

US Mike
02-01-07, 07:46
Gentlemen,

Spam, slam or flame who cares about the link. Get up off you ass and visit the club. I visited the club based on Evil’s report and it is exactly as reported. Had a great time with two girls without all the hassle and drama of the beer bars and Go-Go clubs.

Evil, thanks for a great report and telling us about a new monger location in Pattaya.

US Mike

Terry Terrier
02-01-07, 13:27
Get up off you ass and visit the club.

Mike, I've visited Eden Club several times, and think it's great fun.

Evil, relax, and thanks for the menu info. And here's an opportunity for you to post some more: Do the Hell Club private rooms have waitress drinks service?

Evil Penivel
02-01-07, 16:19
Do the Hell Club private rooms have waitress drinks service?

I don't know for sure, but I imagine it's no problem to have drinks brought up to the room during a session. I've heard guys say they've done that in BKK. All five of my sessions at the Hell Club have been takeaway, as have all but two (the very first two) of my 85 sessions at the Eden Club in BKK.

Evil

Bill Miami
02-01-07, 22:46
I have not made a good post for a while, so here goes. First, it was three and half years ago during a session at Eden’s in Bangkok when I made the decision to go home, sell my car, sell my house and sell everything else and move here. It would not have worked out so well if you did like having threesome and foursome with stunning Thai ladies all the time, but I do, so it has worked out great.

Hey, somebody has to make their contribution to Thai society, so I decide to help the economy by supporting numerous young, luscious, bisexual ladies whose company I enjoy. I am a dog; I know it, but a happy one.

Last night was great!!! There are so many bars in Pattaya; with so many women it’s impossible to visit them all even if it’s a full time vocation. But I am trying to do my best. Last night I hit a new Go-Go bar I found last week. I had to go back because they have one of the most stunning Thai girls I have ever seen working there.

She is 5’-8”, about 115 lbs, with a really beautiful faces and she has that crinkly hair style down to her waist. When she dances you just get a peak of her nipples sneaking through her hair. Drives me crazy. She is also half black with just unreal Mailto like skin complexion, she speaks good English, is 21 years old, and to make it even better, she wears braces! Life is just so bad.

I arrive close to opening and she is on stage dancing and of course as with all Thai ladies she notices me as soon as I walk in. For you newbie’s, once you have had a Thai girl they never forget you. She comes over and sits down after getting off stage and I buy her a drink. There are two other stunning Asian girls sitting a few seats over from me in their street cloths and mention to her; “they got bar fined early.” She tells me they are from Japan. These two are like 20 to 22 and are just beautiful; I just could not believe that they are in their looking to bar fine some dancers.

The two girls from Japan leave and we sit there and have a few more beers. Then the two girls from Japan come back and bar fine two Thai girls. Well when I see that, I am just going crazy. I really screwed up here. I have a new game plan for this situation the next time I see it. I am going to offer to bar fine four girls for them if I can just go along and watch. I will let you know if it works. I can just see these Japanese girls attacking the Thai Go-Go girls. What a sight that must have been.

I notice that my girl is a little disappointed that she was not selected. So, my little brain starts turning thinking maybe she is bi. The last time I was in there a middle aged lady from Japan was there and my girl knew her from a previous session.

Could this really be happening, I have a “Super-Model” that is also bi-sexual? I ask her, “If she has a friend on stage that she would like to take with us?” She says, “She does, number 17.” This girl is really cute and about 5’-0” tall. The type when you fly half way around the world you are just dying to try. But, after living here so long, I am only into super high quality experiences.

Wow, Wow, oh Wow, both of them are true bi-sexuals that will do anything that I ask. And of course the first thing I ask is for them to give each other a big long kiss. What a great session, I think I will go back and try three of them tonight. The two I took last night and this really hot girl that the Japanese girls bar fined.

When you’re at the bars, if you’re into true bi-sexuals girls you really need to watch what’s going on. The other day I was too lazy to go to Pattaya, and went to a Go-Go bar in Jomtien. This girl with a smoking hot body sits down next to me, but I was not into her because she was to old, 30. Why have a 30 year old when you can have a 22 year old is my motto.

After she goes up to dance I notice this hot 22 year old playing around with her, pulling up her skirt and grabbing her tits. My brain goes into overdrive once again thinking this looks like a real good bi-sexual opportunity. I bar fine both of them. These two took a little convincing to give each other a kiss, but after a few minutes another great session.

As I was leaving my Super Model told me to remember and bring my camera the next time I come. Earlier that night, when I was having beers with her I barely mentioned that I had a camera. I will try and post some pictures if I can get them. I wonder if she is going to let me get some action shots.

Acer V
02-02-07, 03:52
Bill, I have the same affliction for the Bi girls. I envy you big-time. I can only get to down to Biland/Thailand a few times a year and have to hunt around here in Hong Kong to find my girl/girl experiences.

Please keep up the reports. Looking forward to your pics!

SidTheSexist
02-02-07, 07:21
I have not made a good post for a while, so here goes.
For you newbie’s, once you have had a Thai girl they never forget you.Bill, considering you're apparently a lot more experienced than the "newbies" on this board, perhaps it might cross your mind to let them in on some factual information rather than clutter the thread with yet another fantasy. Not disputing this actually happened and Im sure you had a great time, but a post so long without a single bar name, girls name or price, is pretty boring and useless really.
cheers
sid

Bill Miami
02-02-07, 08:19
Your post degrading my post was so much more useful for a newbie. Since you’re so concerned with educating them, please let us know the benefit of your post? None, is the answer!

If you had been reading here long enough you would know that once a month or so I provide detailed information on Pattaya. In fact quite a few of my post have been recommended for distinguished reports. Although in the past year, I am sure many people have made more post here than me, I am also sure only a few have provided more helpful information on the does and don’t of Pattaya. Do a search if you’re so concerned.

But, I will be glad to respond to your post. I am not in the habit of finding “Super Models” that also happened to be “bi-sexual,” and on top of that are just “crazy sex freaks,” “have great personalities,” and then telling the entire world where to go find them. Sorry, find you own!!!

But, if you did bother to read the post fully you would have noticed that I gave very STRONG ADVICE to a newbie. Which was, if you’re into real bisexuals watch very closely while there on stage and in the bar how they interact with the other girls. Look for the tell tale signs, grabbing each other tits, pulling up skirts, pinching each other, rubbing together, etc.

Magna White
02-02-07, 13:43
I am here in Pattaya just over a week now. The Beach Road scene seems to be well alive. I took 3 girls during the past week. Mostly gather around Soi 6 to Soi 13, some real cuties. As the weather here is getting cooler, many girls leave around midnight. After 1:00am, another round of new supply comes from closed beerbars. I had a nice-looking girl who works in the Marine Bar at the walking street. Unfortunately, she was a dead fish in bed with horrible sagging tits and belly. Most girls still quote 500B for ST. Can't beat the value in any other places. I do take out a girl from beerbar as my regular. But still survey Beach Road around 8-9pm for my snacks.

Evil Penivel
02-02-07, 14:18
I am not in the habit of finding “Super Models” that also happened to be “bi-sexual,” and on top of that are just “crazy sex freaks,” “have great personalities,” and then telling the entire world where to go find them.

I know that place! It's the same place where you find Thai BGs who never lie and CIS hookers with good attitudes. It's also where Elvis and Bigfoot go when they are in Pattaya. Some bi-sexual mermaids show up from time to time and Harry Potter plans to lose his virginity there.

It sure ain't Kansas, Toto, but it's somewhere over the rainbow.

Evil

Terry Terrier
02-04-07, 01:02
I don't know for sure, but I imagine it's no problem to have drinks brought up to the room during a session. I've heard guys say they've done that in BKK.You've heard guys correctly. My experience in Soi 7/1 was always in the ST hotel next door. Getting room service was no problem, the chek bin was settled with Eden's mamasan, but I never saw the waitresses in the Eden bar, which led me to believe that they worked for the ST hotel. So I'd wondered if these waitresses are peculiar to the Bangkok operation.

I enjoy sharing a few cocktails with the girls during my session.

Opebo
02-04-07, 14:56
The Beach Road scene seems to be well alive. I took 3 girls during the past week.Great news, brother. Last several times I was there it was solid cops from 7 or 8 PM till about 5-6 AM. You didn't see those?

Monopoly
02-04-07, 16:52
Now this is embarrassing, but I've been refused service on Soi 6 of all places!

One day I was strolling down soi 6, as one in our hobby will do from time to time, minding my own business, when a girl grabs me in front of one of the bars. She looked O. K. , but I could tell she was jaded, so not my type. Besides, I had my eye on a cuttie sitting near the entrance.

The "grabber" notices my attraction to the "sitter" and pushes me into the bar. Outside the "grabber" and "sitter" have "words" then the "sitter" reluctantly enters the bar and follows me to the couch. I notice she keeps her distance as we sit. After I get my drink I offer her a lady-drink and she refuses it!

Well I knew at this point that she would not go with me, but asked her just to see what she would say:

Me: So you want to go upstairs with me?

Her: You want me. Can not. Have period.

Me: I see. You only go with young handsome men?

Her: I like you. You don't believe I have period?

Me: No. I think you go hok (lie)

Her: Look!

This 23 y/o beauty then starts to pull her skimpy panties to the side to show me her pussy. What the hell she was trying to show me, I have no idea. Blood stains? A used tampon? I have no idea.

Me: Well, you can still use your mouth

Her: O. K. But I'm not good at it. You have to teach me.

I have to teach her? I have to teach a soi 6 girl how to give a BJ? Arn't these soi 6 girls suppose to be born knowing how to suck a man dry? (just joking)

What the hell is going on in Pattaya these days? If your not attractive to the prettier girls they want nothing to do with you. Yeah there are some pretty girls in Pattaya (not many) but what good is it when they only want to go with the younger, better looking guys?

I mean this is soi 6 for ptetes sake! Don't these girls chose to work here to get as many short-times as possible? But yet they can afford to knock guys back left and right (I've seen it happen to many guys elsewhere in Pattaya)

Indy Tourist
02-04-07, 17:21
This Friday I'm leaving the frozen tudra of Indiana for my first trip to Thailand; I should be in Pattaya by Sunday afternoon. I've been reading the forum for the last 2-3 weeks to help me prepare and you fellows have been very good in helping me mentally prepare and in building my enthusiasm about taking such a long trip. I would like to ask for a little more advice before I leave though! I am already booked into the AA Hotel on Soi 13 (a friend of mine stayed there for a month about 1.5 years ago and recommended it). Anyone have any suggestions about "must-see attractions" such as gogo or beer bars near that part of town? I might relocate at some point if I find the right place while I am wandering around all drunk and sunburned. I figure I'll just play it by ear.

I was also wondering (a bit off topic) if anyone has ever had a suit tailored while staying in Pattaya and if so could you give some advice on doing so?
Being a "first timer" I'll gladly take any other avice you have also!

Thanks again.

Indy Tourist

Member #3409
02-04-07, 21:57
Her: O. K. But I'm not good at it. You have to teach me.

I have to teach her? I have to teach a soi 6 girl how to give a BJ? Arn't these soi 6 girls suppose to be born knowing how to suck a man dry? (just joking)
You never said how it ended. Did you get her to gobble you? Might have been true, imagine teaching a sheila to give a gobble.

NoCBJ4Me
02-05-07, 00:48
.....a suit tailored while staying in Pattaya.....Indy Tourist
Indy Tourist, Welcome to the forum.

Sorry, I can't recommend a tailor, but Sporadic does in this post.

http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=546540&postcount=2128

I did a search to find this one. Just go to Advanced Search, type in "tailor", and to show the results as "reports" and a number of tailor recommendations will show up.

As far as a recommendation of what to see, it really depends on what you are there for. Pattaya is mainly for pussy hunting, although there is lots of other things to do there but I wouldn't recommend swimming in the ocean there. It's just not clean. Just walk down Beach Road and then up and down all the Sois running into it. There are literally hundreds of beer bars and gogo clubs there.

nocbj4me

Fourniceight
02-05-07, 02:22
Indy,

Walk out the front door of AA hotel and you'll find yourself wondering which bar to sit in. You're right in the thick of it there. Suggest Tahitian Queen a go-go if you like ogling. American owned (I think) and plenty of U.S. guys get in there. Good there for afternoon fun and play good rock n roll. That's a right turn for you on Beach Road, then walk 20 metres. If you do a left on Beach Road, walk 25 metres to soi Yamato, and another 20 metres to soi Post Office. Plenty of bars there, and a few a go-gos. Avoid Stringfellows a go-go unless you like ladyboys! You won't lack for watering holes or pussy where you are. Enjoy.

Hades
02-05-07, 15:56
Indy tourist, I was gonna PM you this but you cant receive PM's so here you go instead.

Hey there,

When it comes to tailor shopping, DEFINATELY shop around. Dont let them browbeat you into getting a suit that might be 30 bux cheaper elsewhere.

Also dont shake hands with them unless you want to go into their shop.

Actually dont even listen to the touts, if your interested in a tailored suit. Go into a store of your own accord. Look at the styles, look at the fabric and ask how much.

Take note of the price and leave. Usually say you have to get back to your wife or something.

Things to see, well if you like scuba or snorkelling, there is this place next to a miniature golf course that are excellent to go with. Rates are decent and food on the boat is top notch. Cant remember their name but their logo is an elephant scuba'ing.

Another word of advice. BRING YOUR OWN CONDOMS! I have twiced used thai condoms and twice broke and I freak out for 3 months thinking i have AIDS!. SO bring your own.

Try and dress as dressed down as possible. No jewellery or flashy stuff. Motocyclists love to snatch shit.

Oh and the number one bit of advice I can give is, if someone asks how many times you have been to pattaya. Always say lots.. They love taking advantage of green people. Just try and look bored with the place and you should be fine.

But if you want a recommendation on GoGo's.

Peppermint on walking street and Club boesche which is at the end of walking street. Have to walk a little bit but it is soo worth it!

Oh one final bit of advice. NEVER GET GIRLS FROM PLACES NEAR YOUR HOTEL. Because after you have fucked em and sent em back. You get evils every time you walk past that bar with a new girl!

Anyway have fun in pattaya and have a beer for me!

Hades

Terry Terrier
02-05-07, 23:09
All five of my sessions at the Hell Club have been takeaway, as have all but two (the very first two) of my 85 sessions at the Eden Club in BKK.

Evil,

Who is the best person so speak with for such specific arrangements? Who has the lowdown? Lets' say one wants two girls for take-out - one who does anal and one who takes facials - how would one go about this?

Indy Tourist
02-06-07, 00:16
Thats.21 see to folks across the pond. Thanks for the advice guys! I was supposed to meet up with a knowledgeable buddy in Pattaya upon my arrival, but a family emergency called him back to the States. I was a bit nervous about traveling to such a foreign destination alone at first (26 hour trip, Indianapolis to Chicago, to Tokyo, to Bangkok), but after doing some research and with your advice I am feeling pretty good about it now. Once I settle in with a nice cinnamon-skinned sweety (or 2 or 3) I think I'll be just fine. I am really glad to know that entertainment is so close to the hotel. I'll venture further as I gain confidence!

SexWithSmile
02-06-07, 03:31
After she goes up to dance I notice this hot 22 year old playing around with her, pulling up her skirt and grabbing her tits. My brain goes into overdrive once again thinking this looks like a real good bi-sexual opportunity. I bar fine both of them. These two took a little convincing to give each other a kiss, but after a few minutes another great session.Interesting post Bill, thanks for sharing your experience with us.

I was just wondering - having just spent a few weeks in Thailand and in a long search for threesomes: finding girls who are promiscious with each other, would kiss mouth and tit, and touch each other "for joke" is challenging but not exceptional - and greatly satisfying as you have experienced. Finding girls who play with a diddle is When you say "real bi-sex", do you really mean that they do a real moaning 69 while you shag one of the pussy or butt. That's what I am still looking for - and I don't want the mechanically repeated acting of Eden. I know you can also take showgirls from Boesche, but those girls pussy-kiss each other for 3 hours during the show, so there is no much novelty there.

Cheers

NoCBJ4Me
02-06-07, 04:36
Indy,

I always travel alone. That way, you never have to compromise on what you want to do. As long as you use your common sense and you treat people with respect, you shouldn't have any trouble in LOS.

Have fun! I wish I was going there now as it's about 8 degrees F (-13C) here.

nocbj4me

Eggsalad
02-06-07, 08:38
Indy

I have visited Pattaya many times with the last time being alone. I actually prefer it. I get to set my own schedule and relax whenever I want. This makes a better vacation for me. Have fun and be careful. You might get addicted to this place like I did.

Egg

That Asshole
02-06-07, 09:05
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RE: I am so sorry for guys who are NOT sex-tourists.
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The story of why I came to Pattaya......
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This strange thing happened to me while still back at home:

I was relaxing in my favorite pub with a beer. Then I saw a dog sitting at the bar. With a bottle of soda in front of it. It amazed me. I must have paused more than a few moments on it and the next thing I knew was a guy kneeling on my chest, squeezing my thoat and trying to gouge my eyes out, while screaming: "You looked at my woman, you bastard! I kill you, I mean it. I kill you!"

It got me totally by surprise. All I could bring up to my defence was: "I didn't think it was a woman." This just got things worse as the man now screamed: "He insulted my girl-friend. Everyone heard it. I am gonna knock him out!" and he started smashing my sore head against a sharp corner of the bar.

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he was....starved to death
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What could I do? If I start fighting him then all the women just laugh : "Look at the dogs. They always fight, don't they? Just as we order them to do...." So, of course fighting was not the answer. I couldn't even be angry with this fine gentleman. I could only be sorry for him.

For the sad-sad life he was living and the countless other of my fellow countrymen along with him. They absolutely have no chance of rooting meat unless they regularly behave like him. They are starved to death and then get morsels of affection for serving like mongrels.They are the ones to be sorry for, the slaves of our society. The victims of education, propaganda, news, media, TV, radio. This

is the expected "normal behaviour" from them. Glorified examples of this kind behaviour is projected before them day after day in "hero-movies" and soon they start to believe that this is "normal".

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Definitely, surely not wanting to be like him, I packed my gear and headed to Pattaya for an extended fuck-holiday. To be free of manipulation by Fucking Objects, sex or by the lack of it. Free of any female-induced violence. It worked out just excellent. This is what I found:

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Fuck #1: Beautiful, young silky brown girl, 20 years old.
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In Pattaya there are choices of GoGo Bars, Beer bars and others. Not wanting to do the same degrading antiques that the female-run media trying to teach me, such as licking to them for favours, my obvious choice was the "Short-Time Area", also called Soi 6 or Soi Yoksad.

In this place you can find some great FO (Fucking Object), get good service and yet still keep your self esteem. As I found the only conversation you have to do is four words: "I want short-time". You can often also safely say "I want to fuck" but some might get offended occasionally. I walked this short street in full length first, assessing the possibilities. Made 3 or 4 possible choices. Then returned to the one I liked best.

The scene is like this: The girls stand or sit outside bars that line both sides of the road. They invite you in for a "drink". Then if you get along well in the rather dark interior, playing on the sofas, you can go upstairs for some action which always includes full service. Prices are quite uniform, total 7-800 baht and some more for the drinks. One USD is worth about 35 Baht.

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only 4 majic words to say....
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But you don't have to drink. Just say your four words -as above- and go straight upstairs works fine every time. You don't have to chat with them a bit. Just glance at the FO that you like as you walk in and she will follow you. If she doesn't, then inside you can tell to the bar staff which FO you like. Really, all you say is the 4 words and pay the price. It is just fine and you don't have to lower yourself to them by conversing with an FO. If they ever told you that men and women were equal, now you better know the truth: It was a lie. You are not equal. Surely, I am not.

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Where's my cock?
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The quality varies and you are welcome to shop around. So, my chosen FO (Fucking Object) was very pretty, a real princess. Totally young, hairless body and no kids ever. Little, firm, silky soft and with just the right amount of curves. Tiny little firm titties as well. We showered together. She washed my kokky with her soft hands. I asked her what it looked like because I really hadn't seen it for years, since my belly had overgrown it I only know the fella from hearsay. She was cruel and answered that it was "like a second belly button". For this I had to give her an awful pounding.

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I returned to the bedroom first. As soon as she arrived, I took of her towel and positioned her cute little body straight on my face. Gave her a good, extended licking and she kept wriggling like a fish on the seashore. Then I moved her to sit on my kokky and the perfect, tiny body rode just beautifully. All the while we kept deep-kissing. Changed a few positions and had a raging good time. At the end she requested a return visit. Just too excellent for #1. And notice, no violence or fighting was involved with other guys.

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Fuck#2. Most awesomely beautiful face, 22 years
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My next choice of FO looked even better. What a gorgeous, perfect smile. And the long, flowing hair..... Same showering story, which was followed by me licking her little tits for a long time. This one had a kid but body still quite good. Tits only slightly saggy. Various interesting positions easily and keenly performed. I was massaged, caressed, stroked, totally looked after which more than compensated for the slightly less firm body. She sang a song to me in thai which I didn't understand but sounded cute. Great service from
FO #2.

More than worth the expense of $25 plus a (very) few words.


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Fuck #3. Very skinny girl, CIM
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For a change of area I walked a bit further to Soi 3, the Welkom Inn. It is a similar sort of establishment, on it's own. About 10 mins walk from soi6 to the North. I bought a cola for 50B. The FOs kept coming around and asking which one I liked. I picked a very-very slim one, yet looking energetic enough. We were well into the action when she started to apologize that she didn't have a condom. Ah well, I didn't even notice. Totally hot girl. Then she gave out a big yell while being licked. Apparently I bit her clitoris. She wouldn't talk to me for 5 minutes but then we just got into it again. Came once in her hole and she became angry again because she wanted it in her mouth. We just rubbed each other for 30 minutes or so then gave it another go. This time finishing in the mouth. Totally awesome. (I was sorry about the clit but no harm done).


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Looking into shaven holes
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The night was finished in a bar where you can look into their naked cunts while they dance above your head. It's totally degrading to FO, very antifeminist style, therefore it was great. No blood was shed all night (apart from the bitten clit). I was just too sorry for my poor fellow countrymen back at home. I was wondering: "Who was fighting with whom tonight?"

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Cheap BYFM for all guys...
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I have this noble, humanitarian dream:

To give BYFM (Beautiful Young Fucking Meat) to all men, rich or poor, therefore end all female-induced violence in the world. Wouldn't it be great? The ISG Forum is tops! Read it more. And please say no to "violence against men". You have been brainwashed. The truth is: It has never been proven that you are equal to women. A fact of nature cannot be changed by law. Here is why....

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=556892&postcount=5108

Pattaya is good (if you find the right places). But Phnom Penh is even better. See it here...

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=549335&postcount=249

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=549334&postcount=248


Even a lot less respect. More service. Cheaper prices.
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Please friends, realise that "fighting" isn't a male characteristic at all but "understanding" is. Often if you understand your situation and throw out the lies you don't need to fight at all. Women do love getting men (and police) to fight for them. While they laugh, "he,he,he look at those mindless idiots....." But you already knew this, for sure. Because you see it every day.

Berty Boy
02-06-07, 18:55
Indy Tourist,

I have just returned from my eight trip and like you I always travel alone.
The only problem I have found is that the girls at gogos and beer bars will target you and in some cases surround and overwhelm you looking for LDs.
Politely but firmly resist. They will tempt you with the promise of threesomes and foursomes but their ultimate goal is all the Lds your pocket can provide.
despite this, I had the best trip of all and will report as soon as I can get the details down and the photos sorted.

Rambis Youth
02-07-07, 12:52
Walk out the front door of AA hotel and you'll find yourself wondering which bar to sit in. You're right in the thick of it there. Suggest Tahitian Queen a go-go if you like ogling. American owned (I think) and plenty of U.S. guys get in there. Good there for afternoon fun and play good rock n roll. That's a right turn for you on Beach Road, then walk 20 metres.


I drink at TQ every time I'm in town. Woody and the boys are very friendly.

Erik
02-07-07, 19:48
That Asshole,
Hi, how are you today ? Can I ask you something ? You like to use the term "meat" when talking about the girls available for sex. Do you really see the young Khmer, Viet and Thai cuties you do as pieces of meat ? When you work out them on your bed, do you like thinking yourself as a butcher in his shop or sitting at a restaurant cutting a steak ? Personnally I don't find this term funny, nor does it appeal to my imagination. What I like with prostitutes (I prefer this word, as well as *****, hooker or whatever), is not only their curvy body but also their eyes, smile, laughters, voice, gesture, etc, etc, etc, and much other thing that their "meat" that turn me on.
Just my opinion.

1Ball
02-07-07, 20:06
Erik, I too, find that term offensive, but I think some just use it for "shock" value. I take it with a grain of salt, and suggest you do too. I don't think it is worth getting in a huff over. No flame intended.


That Asshole,
Hi, how are you today ? Can I ask you something ? You like to use the term "meat" when talking about the girls available for sex. Do you really see the young Khmer, Viet and Thai cuties you do as pieces of meat ? When you work out them on your bed, do you like thinking yourself as a butcher in his shop or sitting at a restaurant cutting a steak ? Personnally I don't find this term funny, nor does it appeal to my imagination. What I like with prostitutes (I prefer this word, as well as *****, hooker or whatever), is not only their curvy body but also their eyes, smile, laughters, voice, gesture, etc, etc, etc, and much other thing that their "meat" that turn me on.
Just my opinion.

ThaiLearner
02-07-07, 20:38
HI

You can try going down soi 6 (this is toward the northend of Pattaya) and having some fun there .

There are also Soapies Sabdai longue or some like that on soi 3 (even further north, just get a Baht bus only 10 baht) where it meets Pattaya 2nd rd, also there is one across the road from there as well.

Have a good one, I'm not going until March 24

Piper1
02-07-07, 20:50
I became vegetarian many years ago after reading "Portnoy's Complaint". I've since been corrupted by meat-loving girlfiends (and wife), but I still cannot stand the sight of liver. :D

From a review of the book: "Portnoy's Complaint is ... a cross between Literature and American Pie. I don't really want to read about some guy getting (uh-hum) intimate with a piece of liver".

Phantomtiger2
02-07-07, 22:40
think some just use it for "shock" value. I take it with a grain of salt, and suggest you do too. I don't think it is worth getting in a huff over. No flame intended.


Yup, definitely used only as a personal expression for a more interesting reading. Someone will always be offended by other terms used--****, sl*t, hoes, tunnels, bitc*h, who*e, etc etc--but at least we all know what he's talking about , so to each his own cause if he caught our attention then he's already made his point.--IMO


PT

The Traveler
02-07-07, 23:34
So do I, If i remember correctly they also own the flipper lodge too. There tied in with the military or I mean retired from. LOL
Fish n Chips,

the TQ is owned by Tom and run by Bob (the one with the bald head).
Retired ? Nope, there goes the rumour that Tom is an ex-military who had killed an officer.
Don't know if it's true or not, never asked him, not my business.

The Traveler
02-07-07, 23:43
Yup, definitely used only as a personal expression for a more interesting reading. Someone will always be offended by other terms used--****, sl*t, hoes, tunnels, bitc*h, who*e, etc etc--but at least we all know what he's talking about , so to each his own cause if he caught our attention then he's already made his point.--IMO
PT
PT,

IMHO calling a person "meat" is extremely insulting as it is an attempt to make this person an object = not human.

Usually only people with certain character deficits and those who need to feel superior use this term.
The more civilized ones usually simply call them what they are : women, girls, sex providers, P4P or maybe even hookers but they NEVER call them meat.
I do have meat on my plate, put it on a BBQ, cut it with a knife, chew it and eat it. I don't do such things with people. Maybe he is a cannibal, who knows ?

1Ball
02-08-07, 00:12
Phantom. Don't know if you have been around long enough to remember a fellow called Z-elda. This guy used to refer to them as "cum-Tupperware's". Delightful.

Personally, I like the term they use for themselves..........lady.

Indy Tourist
02-09-07, 00:37
Thanks for the advice everyone! I printed off a condensed list of good ideas and I'm flying out tomorrow morning. Hades, I've been practicing saying,"I've been here LOT'S of times!" until I sound pretty convincing! I'll post my adventures upon my return.

Phantomtiger2
02-09-07, 18:22
Phantom. Don't know if you have been around long enough to remember a fellow called Z-elda. This guy used to refer to them as "cum-Tupperware's". Delightful.

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Z-elda, cant seem to remember that one, so what happen to him?
Cum-tupperware--interesting, if he was wearing protection then this could also be his way of saying "condoms".
But I really feel all these guys are reinventing words and phrases (many famous novel authors in the past have done the same) to grab our attention and the fact that we remember them so well meant they have achieve their intented goals (good or bad).
Now when I read "meat", will already know it was a TA report--see what I mean by attention grabbing. Doesnt mean I agree with him but I know it was his report style--like I said, to each his own.

Cheers


PT

Dinghy
02-09-07, 20:48
Z-elda was a pre-incarnation of A-delz and in turn a reincarnation of Tu-rok dinosaur hunter (T-Z-A was the order) Z of course having some Zen relationship with the rest of the group. Go look at old archives from the 2003-2005 time frame for more info. Z has disappeared from the forum as an entity (although he might be present in yet another "kinder gentler" reincarnation - just speculating) He was living/working in muangThai for many years apparently and was particularly fond of Korat and touted the F-F-F philosophy above all.

The "cum tupperware" handle came about as being "cum storage repositories". There were others of the same ilk. Suffice it to say that T-Z-A had absolutely NO time, NO good words for P'ya AT ALL - NEVER - NO WAY, NO HOW! - looking upon P'ya as the ABSOLUTE cesspool of muangThai

Now, as to meat - "meat" can be double sided - "a piece of meat" (meaning "female"); or "man meat" (the ubiquitous male appendage). Since I'm not of the "Hi sailor - new in town?" bent, I would use it (IF I used it at all) for referring to "poo-ying".

School's out, history lesson is over.

The Traveler
02-09-07, 21:03
Suffice it to say that T-Z-A had absolutely NO time, NO good words for P'ya AT ALL - NEVER - NO WAY, NO HOW! - looking upon P'ya as the ABSOLUTE cesspool of muangThai

Dinghy,

true but strange enough he enjoyed to stay in P'ya on a more or less regular basis.

Johnny Drama
02-10-07, 03:28
My buddies and I just booked our trip to Thailand on March 16th, arriving in Bangkok around 11:30PM March 17th. I've been to Thailand a few times, with some experience in Bangkok, Samui and Phuket, but this will be our first time to Pattaya. I'd like to know if any of you are familiar with the Royal Orchid Pattaya hotel? Its located by the Dusit resort, but on the other side of Soi Naklua 20. Is this a good location to walk to most of the action, or will we need a cab? I'd also like to know if the hotel is GF, and if they charge any additional guest fees or not? My other option is to book a room at the Mercure at about the same rate. Any advice on which one to choose (I have a discounted airline rate available at either hotel so I'd like to choose between one of them) Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Drama

Johnny Drama
02-10-07, 05:35
Anyone visited/stayed at secrets on Soi 14? Looks like it just opened in September, and has a restaurant, bar/nightclub attached to the hotel. I've already confirmed they are GF, with no fee, but I'd like to know if anyone has price info for in-house girls? website is http://www.secretspattaya.com/

Thanks

Drama

The Traveler
02-10-07, 12:43
Johnny Drama,

the Royal Orchid is in walking distance to the Massage Parlors Sabai Land, Sabai Room and Sabai Dee. There is also another one up Naklua Road but don't remember its name.

Since those Massage Parlors are all located close to soi 2, Big C and the bars of soi 2, 3 and 6 are also in walking distance plus a few up Naklua Rd.

The hotel is located at the main taxi route so it's absolutely hassle free to get to soi 7+8, soi Pattaya Land and Walking Street within a couple of minutes for just 10 baht (at night 20)

I would prefer the Royal Orchid over the Mercure, because the Mercure is located in the center. while the Royal Orchid is more calm. Even though the Mercure is close to Second Rd, you will have to walk (just a few meters more) to get a taxi.

I can't tell you if they charge joiner fees because I have never stayed at the Mercure and did check in with a GF when staying at the Royal Orchid.

Petemcc
02-10-07, 22:52
Anyone visited/stayed at secrets on Soi 14? Looks like it just opened in September, and has a restaurant, bar/nightclub attached to the hotel. I've already confirmed they are GF, with no fee, but I'd like to know if anyone has price info for in-house girls? website is http://www.secretspattaya.com/

Thanks

Drama

Johnny
I haven't been there, but am a member of a number of other chat forums about Pattaya. One of them was hosted by someone who had a dislike of the people who set-up secrets, and he made some disparaging comments, but that aside, here is what I have observed from other websites, and indeed the guy himself who I spoke about.
Basically, it is a place that has yet to find itself. It's neither a beer bar, nor a gogo bar, but the girls, especially the Coyote girls are expensive.
It started off with some poor quality girls, but the latest pics on their site reveals some very wakable upable beside girls.
PM me and I will send you some links. I will not slag off anyplace that I haven't visited, nor give it a rave review, but I will point you towards sites that will tell you about it, including its own. However, all I can say is that for me, a hotel room basically in Walking Street would have to have good sound insulation!
Pete

Monopoly
02-10-07, 23:00
You never said how it ended. Did you get her to gobble you? Might have been true, imagine teaching a sheila to give a gobble.No gobbling. If my organ wasn't good enough for her pussy, I wasn't going to give her the pleasure of having it in her mouth.

I just moved on to the next venue.

Toby I
02-12-07, 18:24
Anyone visited/stayed at secrets on Soi 14? Looks like it just opened in September, and has a restaurant, bar/nightclub attached to the hotel. I've already confirmed they are GF, with no fee, but I'd like to know if anyone has price info for in-house girls? website is http://www.secretspattaya.com/

Thanks

DramaI stayed there in december. I had the 950 bath room. Very nice. The rooms are spacious, clean, soft bed, big bathroom.

Just make sure they don't give you a room on the first floor, way to noisy. As I was staying there, I thought it was wiser to bring girls from other bars. But there are quite some stunners and the attitude of most of the girls is great. BF for hostesses is 400 bath, coyote dancers 1000 before and 600 after midnight if I remember correctly. What you pay them is up to your negotian skills I presume.

RockyMtnWay
02-12-07, 20:06
Anyone visited/stayed at secrets on Soi 14? Looks like it just opened in September, and has a restaurant, bar/nightclub attached to the hotel. I've already confirmed they are GF, with no fee, but I'd like to know if anyone has price info for in-house girls? website is http://www.secretspattaya.com/

Thanks

Drama
I've been there once or twice or 40 times :-). The coyote dancers bar fine for 1000 baht before midnight and 600 baht after midnight. Plus they have other girls beside the coyote dancers. The girls ask about average GoGo prices. It's about as girl friendly as possible. Some of the wait staff doesn't bar fine and will wear a name badge with a red stripe on the bottom. The girls with the green stripe are good to go. Drinks are about typical WS GoGo prices with a nice size Tiger draft for 50 baht. It's well worth a look IMO.

RMW

Acer V
02-13-07, 05:17
My buddies and I just booked our trip to Thailand on March 16th, arriving in Bangkok around 11:30PM March 17th. I've been to Thailand a few times, with some experience in Bangkok, Samui and Phuket, but this will be our first time to Pattaya. I'd like to know if any of you are familiar with the Royal Orchid Pattaya hotel? Its located by the Dusit resort, but on the other side of Soi Naklua 20. Is this a good location to walk to most of the action, or will we need a cab? I'd also like to know if the hotel is GF, and if they charge any additional guest fees or not? My other option is to book a room at the Mercure at about the same rate. Any advice on which one to choose (I have a discounted airline rate available at either hotel so I'd like to choose between one of them) Any help would be greatly appreciated.

DramaJohnny,

I can only tell you about the Mercure. I've stayed there a few times. It is very central to the action especially Walking Street. It is also quite quiet, being off Second Road. They have a shuttle back and forth to Second Road which is very convenient. No problems bringing back your sweetheart!

Boy Toy
02-13-07, 06:15
Dear frends,

Does anyone have any experience at the hotel formerly called the Pacific Prince Pattaya, now called the All Seasons Pattaya?

How are the rooms, and is there any joiner fees?

Please clarify.

Thanks,

BT

That Asshole
02-13-07, 08:30
cont. from previous report...
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=559710&postcount=1269


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Rooting more "Objects of F."....

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Fuck #4. Hairy beaver, young big girl, 22y
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Really, I don't like the beer-bars for the following reason. Here you have to chat with them and treat them as equal. While you also compete with younger and wealthier guys. I feel it is as degrading to guys as it is at home in any bar. I am sure many of you will agree (some not yet, but soon you will).

But.... The quantity of good quality FO is very limited at Soi 6 at any given time and especially so in high season. I saw some good looking
"?eat" at the soi 2 beer-bars. So, sat down at 7pm, not too keen to converse, just to see what happens. Received my drink. Soon an older woman came around and asked "Wanna play game?" I said "No".

Then she asked "Want girl?" My reply was that "I only want short-time", really not wanting to monkey around with them too much. That was it. She sent a pretty good looking big, tall, young girl around. She was shy because very fresh, 2 days in town and not speaking English. No probs, paid bar 300B.

Took songtao to near hotel. In the room she performed perfectly, just as the very fresh FO (Fuck-Object) usually do in Pattaya. Lots of kissing and getting extremely wet with little foreplay. The very hairy beaver was a shame but not smelly (for good luck). Then she got another 500 B. ($1=35Baht).

Does not often work out like this from beer-bars but this was a good one. No complaints. All the deal I negotiated with the boss. She was "sold" to me. (Well, not exactly, but in effect yes, I did not have to lick to get favours. Very macho.)
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Eat today.....and eat tomorrow too
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Dear respected Members, Thank you for objecting to the use of the word: "meat". Sorry, it has been remedied now, by spelling "?eat" I hope satisfactorily , for our more sensitive friends. The meaning is the same and in my mind they always stay the same, despite the name change. So, what was the point?

But in fact this name has an important purpose. Tell me if you can, but I cannot draw a line between the females I root in Pattaya and the females I meet at home, at work, etc. How would I, how can you? They are just the "same rooting object", same look, same material, same attitude. The difference is totally superficial. If you took them home, they would soon behave like "western-?eat". If the "western-?eat" had the life experiences as these thai maidens, they would be just as humble as these are. It is all learnt.

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To be able to act "systematically" is a male virtue, this is one thing that sets us above "impulsive" females, unable to make goals and plans, living totally on the "surface" and for today. Yes, we all like the smiles, the nice gestures from them. But we must look beyond this! Where does your "?eat" come from? And where will it come from tomorrow?

As I said, to treat them differently here and there would equal to hypocrisy. When I see a woman doctor at home I compare it to a "Fuck-Object" of Pattaya and choose a male doctor instead. When I meet a woman clerk at home again I compare it to a "Fuck-Object" of Pattaya and choose to deal with a male clerk instead. It is great.

This way we slowly give back all those jobs to men that belong to men but had been taken away from them. Slowly (by our communal efforts) men will get more respect in any "****-ry" and will cease to be second rate citizens. Slowly, men will win back the leadership in running the governments which will be much better for all (yes, even for women).

And slowly, women unable to find other form of employment will line all the way from LA to NY in cute little knocking-shops and you will be able to root young fresh pussy -in your own country- just like now you buy a glass of beer. Slowly, maybe in 100 years or two but it must start today. So, it's all for better, cheaper sex. I invite you to have a look at this very informative "Clock" of what the credit-card waving, mindless mass of females is doing to your "****-ry" right now.


Clock: http://www.americaneconomicalert.org/ticker_home.asp

The writer still maintains the opinion that (as quoted from a previous report):

".....year 1920, the enactement of the 19th amendment to the US constitution was the end of US democracy. For the purpose of eventually doubling the income tax-base and in an instant to create a mindless, screaming mass of voters/consumers who can be most easily and predictably controlled by well aimed propaganda: "american women were given voting rights and could be nominated for position in government". Thereby "real" democracy died."

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Checking out the situation again on Soi6 I saw one very pretty young "?eat". There was a problem though: very black painted fingers. Black nail polish is totally low class, so I asked her to wait 10 mins. Run to the nearby 7/11 store, spent 40B and returned with a bottle of remover and some bright pink polish.

I started doing her two first fingers but got tired of it so ordered her to finish the rest by herself. Up in the room she performed like a wild animal (again a "fresh" girl), readily fucking in all positions imaginable and the meat (sorry, ?eat) was top class, big bangers too with narrow hips and spotless skin. Needless to say, after the great favour from me of buying the pink polish and education about "class", etc. she fell in love with me (they all do, and with you too).

Asking with cloudy eyes:" Do you have a girl-friend yet". Hating to lie and hearing the question too often I just tell them the truth that I never had one and will not have one before it becomes compulsory. Enough braindamage already having to spend an hour at a time with them. So, we parted very emotionally, me taking the polish away as might need it for the next ho. It was pure love, no doubts about it.
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Major Marvy
02-13-07, 09:14
That Asshole should continue using "meat. " It is part of his writing style and his own philosophy. That asshole values peace among men, and so he has offered an ironic question mark to the more "sensitive" forum readers.

O noble and honourable members of the forum, look closer and see the question mark change to an upturned middle finger. Read back through that asshole's posts, and you will find lots of very useful information presented to you in an interesting way.

There is an element of misogyny to what we all have in common--the exploitation of women. (Look up both words before you flame) That asshole does us all a favor by taking a good hard look at the uglier realities of "the hobby, " and our own motivations.

MM

Billy Ibrox
02-13-07, 10:46
they are building a highway frm the airport. massive building is on in beach road. russian families are everywhere. the beach rd clean up continues and it is obvious the big players want this to be a family city. that is the future.

i am shacked up with a go go girl and a kip joint full of bar girls. life is good. the stories the go go girl tells me shocks me. she has more cndoms in her bedroom than most shops have. the camel jockeys are good customers by all accounts. their discos feature hip hop and thy pay top $$. i guess o**** doesn't lok to mecca. most guys i speak to don't use condoms and know fuck all about safe sex. takes all types.

Subaculture
02-13-07, 20:09
An English man in Pattaya.. reminds me why I love and hate the place.

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-865549299674768839

Slim220
02-15-07, 10:19
Just watching the videos brings back the smells and sounds that I miss so much. But I don't think I could ever live in Pattaya and have a normal life. Haha. I just don't think I could do it. Thanks for the vid's tho. I appreciate it!


An English man in Pattaya.. reminds me why I love and hate the place.

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-865549299674768839

Jcr153
02-16-07, 23:16
The Mercure has recently started to charge a joiner fee. This information was obtined from a reliable source from another forum. They wrote the manager personally and he replied that it was a corporate policy that was just implimented. I trust this info to be accurate, but it is second hand. Many guests are emailing the manager and cancelling reservations in order to hopefully have the policy reconsidered.

Continue to enjoy the good life.

J Ride
02-16-07, 23:27
Damn, that video really makes me nastalgic... I wish I was in Thailand with my boys right now. Wait, what's this? I have a ticket to Thailand for Songkran in my pocket!!! No joke! I can't wait for April - it's been too long.

Thanks for sharing pal.

Red Alert
02-20-07, 08:20
Slim220,

Great video. Looks like you guys had a fantastic time. Anymore video?

Cheers.

Redalert

Red Alert
02-20-07, 08:23
Anyways. Great video. ha ha!

PhilmaCavity
02-20-07, 14:04
An English man in Pattaya.. reminds me why I love and hate the place.

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-865549299674768839Brings back memories for me ok.. i had a few sessions with one of the girls, a good shag she was too! Khun, i think her name was.. What a pussy, it was a cock chewer! Will be there at songkran this year, can't wait!

Just back from Samui, it's great too, but Pattaya is tops, although i found some of the russian couples pretty annoying, with their judgemental stares, hell there's probably more Russian hookers in europe, than there are Thais in Thailand. But i kept my cool and didn't lose my rag!

Troposcat
02-21-07, 08:23
An English man in Pattaya.. reminds me why I love and hate the place.

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-865549299674768839I loved the video and the music. Can you tell me the bands and the name of the songs used? It would be nice to walk the streets of Thailand with those songs on my IPOD.

Babaluba
02-21-07, 13:49
brief report on my last visit to pattaya. well i like soapies so start there:

i went a couple of times to both sabailan and sabadee (both up the big see, 1600 baht). and i must conclude i will not go back to sabaidee anymore. out of 5 visits only one was excellent and with 3 times there were some complaints. the last visit there i picked a nice looking a funny girl which provided ok service and demanded "good tip". well i am not cheap if it comes to girls, but in my opinion i tip if the service was good (as its custom in a soapy) and might give more if the service was excellent (more than you can expect from usual service). so looking on the going rates a gave her a 300 baht tip, which is fair, because as mentioned the service was not really exceeding expectations and probably shouldnt have given anything because of that reason. but the girl was not very happy with it and calls me cheap charly all the way down. it really bugged me and i don’t go back there.

increasing tip culture is really annoying there. so when you go to sabailand your expected to tip the waiter bringing your beer, tip the cleaning lady afterwards and tip the girl. well no comment on that. i guess they should rather increase their fee about 200 baht and include all shit.

anyway about sabailand i must say i was never disappointed, been there 5-6 times. the last was really good. oi #185 i believe, not the most beautiful within the selection (maybe 7-8) but very willing to make up with good service. we had nice bbbj, fs before the bath – massage and after and all accompanied with fun and a smile. really good so i tipped her 500 baht, although she didn’t even ask for a tip. in my opinion if you need to choose take sabailand. .

hell club: well after recent discussion on the board i thought i give that eden-establishment a try and wasn’t disappointed. i went about 4 pm, picked a cute 8 and she picked her not so pretty gf. however both provided excellent service, was basically pampered for 1 ½ hours with bbbj, cim – fs. they just wouldn’t stop. nice experinece and i popped 3 times. the room was very clean and had a decent size with attached big shower and toilet which i find quite good. when i went downstairs there was a guy sitting with his laptop, so iguess that was the one posting the menue here?

anyway it is a little steep by price 3600 total. on the other hand if you look for a quick 3-some without haggling with "two sisters" about price and so on somewhere its an easy shot. i guess i go back there next time.

on my way home some night i passed by [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) for a quick bbbj – cim. it was already after midnight and i was the only customer. paid 700 baht and went upstairs. nice work of the lady for 30 minutes then i exploded in her mouth. well the skill was excellent, the establishment is not as much to my taste. i guess if there are more customers, its kind of annoying that they don’t have separate rooms closed up all the way to the ceiling. there is a gap so you can enjoy your neigbours pleasure as well. anyway worth the money.

actually i had a peek at galaxy i think its called (with the white ladies). i must admit i was surprised there were really good looking girls from russia and so on there with tasty shape. so if you want to enjoy a nice western lady in between surely worth a try. i didn’t because i think the prices are too much for me as i prefer the asian stunners. however before you poke those in other countries its still a good deal maybe. also i wonder if they provide similar service.

maybe someone who has done it can comment on service level of the western ladies there?

good hunt!

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Babaluba
02-21-07, 17:46
Sorry, I just realized I mixed it up:

So the one you tip is Sabai Dee and I didn't favor.

Sabai Land is the better one.

IMHO

BuleDaddy
02-22-07, 02:46
They always whiine just like the old bell hops at Nana. Especially if you are American because I see guys pull more money out when the tip is far adequate. Pretend you are British and stiff them becuase the lousy service has already been rendered.

PhilmaCavity
02-22-07, 09:48
i also visited the hell club on my last trip. my friend and i had decided to visit [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) bj bar, but alas the only available blowjobees, were a tad on the chubby side, not for me! but as we left an aussie came through the door accompanied by a girl with a fine chassis, gave me time to reflect on the bad luck and timing that seems to haunt me when i'm in pattaya.

so off we headed to the hell club. was a bit miffed on entrance as the bar area is quite small and between other mongers and the girls milling about, i wasn't quite sure how to go about the selection process. but help was on hand, a guy with a strange accent, put us at ease, well, slighty more at ease, by explaining the procedure. he called the girls in, to sit in a line of chairs along the back wall.

now the place is very narrow so these stools are between 2 and 3 feet from the bar stools you'll be sitting on. he then pointed out a very visible yellow and black line, made with the tape that you would see on a construction site. he stated that all the girls on the left of the line were good for 1, 2 and 3 and the girls on the right of said line were good for 1 and 2, but 3 was a no no. his rendition was accompanied by very graphical finger pointing, which left one in no doubt, as to the meaning of 1,2 and 3.

to be continued

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PhilmaCavity
02-22-07, 10:33
After this remarkable introduction, i have to admit to being a bit embarassed, not like me, therefore i hesitated in choosing and all the girls promptly left their various positions and dissappeared, mostly outside. It was then another guy came along, repeated the same graphical jargon and handed us a menu, this basically said that the minimum allowed was 2 girls over a 90 min period and that it would cost 3600 baht, it also stated that instead of choosing 2 girls yourself, why not choose one girl and let her pick a partner, thus helping to ensure a healthy performance. Not a bad idea, me thinks!

So that's exactly what i did, turned out that her partner was the star of the show, giving me the best deepthroat i've ever had. Also she had a pussy, that had more meat on display than a butchers window, just my thing! The other girl was fantstic too, i went through just about every combination i could with them, making full use of the supplied strap ons and vibrators, That said, my No3 and theirs were not utilized at any point in the proceedings. Their gusto whilst pussy licking and fucking each other, was totally amazing and i have to admit, this was probably the best session, i've had.. Ever! I have never orgasmed so intensely and got hard so soon after, if i'm truthful, i was a bit worried about blowing the beans too early, then not striking hard after, but in this scenario, you're pecker will perform, it's so intense.

Will i go back? As big John said, da hell i will! In fact a 2nd trip was only put off on my return from samui, because of an action packed last night, with a soi 8 cutie, who literally sucked the sex out of my body, i'm only starting to get the horn back now, a week later, but i'm in Ireland now.. Read the trip reports for there, dull reading and rip offs!

The hell club, might be expensive for Pattaya, you'll probably spent 4000, on a visit, with a drink and tips but try and find this sort of experience anywhere and you'll know it's worth it. I've enjoyed many x2's in the FKK'S, but they don't compare to this! Next time i might look to the left.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

J Ride
02-23-07, 20:58
Nice report Philma. I've been to Eden Club a couple of times and loved it. I'm going to pass through Hell Club at least once when I go back it April. Incidentally, I remember after banging one of my Eden broads in the ass, I asked her how she was doing to make sure she wasn't too uncomfortable. She said, "don't worry, I've fucked the world." Lesson learned - use condoms gentleman.

One of the guys brought up Galaxy on Walking Street a couple postings back. That sparked my interest. Have any of you anything to report on Galaxy. Though I've been to Pattaya eight or nine times, I've never had a snow bunny Thailand and I'd like to try one or two out. What's the damage for getting one of these ladies back to the hotel? How are the services, attitude, etc?

On a completely unrelated note - how do I get settings configured to stealthmode? I can't figure it out for the life of me (btw, I'm a donor).

Sorry for all the questions. I'll have some fresh input soon!

J Ride

Buzz00
02-23-07, 21:31
J Ride

Do yourself a favour, unless you have reams of cash that you have nothing better to do with : stay away. Go and hang outside the V.C. Hotel if you are looking for Russian ladies.

Madraz
02-24-07, 04:35
J Ride

Do yourself a favour, unless you have reams of cash that you have nothing better to do with : stay away. Go and hang outside the V.C. Hotel if you are looking for Russian ladies.I have to say in my opinion the most annoying thing I found on my last trip was the ugly russian women everywhere in pattaya. As far the ones dancing in the window above walking street, what a turn off ! Not good looking, totally unsexy and not in great shape. I just don't get it, my thai girl was laughing at them she said every guy says the thing about them. Plenty of Russian moo-cows wandering around as well, at least if you steer clear of walking steet you can generally avoid them. The russians girls who were somewhat decent looking had bodies that couldn't hold a candle to the Thai girls.

Babaluba
02-24-07, 07:23
Buzz,

have you ever tried one there? Just curious abut their performance.

B.

Bumholes1
02-24-07, 09:51
Russians:

quote:

Originally Posted by Buzz00

Go and hang outside the V.C. Hotel if you are looking for Russian ladies.

OR Jomtien Beach!

Babaluba
02-24-07, 10:00
I have to say in my opinion the most annoying thing I found on my last trip was the ugly russian women everywhere in pattaya. As far the ones dancing in the window above walking street, what a turn off ! Not good looking, totally unsexy and not in great shape. I just don't get it, my thai girl was laughing at them she said every guy says the thing about them. Plenty of Russian moo-cows wandering around as well, at least if you steer clear of walking steet you can generally avoid them. The russians girls who were somewhat decent looking had bodies that couldn't hold a candle to the Thai girls.I agree there are many ugly ones out there, but so are other ugly farang ladies there. It must be noted that only few of them are for sale. There are many Russian families living these days around pattaya and there are tons of holidaymakers (by cheap charters from Russia directly to U-Tapao airport in Pattaya). Those are most of the time seen on the streets and not the best representation of their species as we would say about many holiday makers from other countries as well.

On the other hand if you go inside that establishment you mentioned on walking street there are some very nice shaped ladies inside, at least when I was there about a month ago. So I guess there are some nice ones around if one likes them. To mix all in one doesnt do them justice I believe.

Tastes are different and everyone needs to explore it himself.

J Ride
02-24-07, 20:12
I definately don't want to waste my money and mojo on some out of shape cow, but I think variety is good. I've never been in Galaxy and it would be great to hear from anyone who's landed a bird from there. Believe me, I have no complaints about sticking to Thai spinners, but I'm always looking for ways to keep things interesting.

Opebo
02-24-07, 20:18
I once knew a Thai Beach Road girl that claimed she would act as a beard for Russian girls working Jomtienne beach. She claimed she was paid 500/day to hang out with them so it didn't look like they were hooking. Didn't make any sense to me, and I never went to check it out because - why go to Jomtienne?

Can anyone on the ground in Pattaya post an update about the Beach Road? I plan to visit in 2 or 3 weeks and am filled with hope and dread.

J Ride
02-24-07, 21:25
Hmm, beach road... That's another opportunity I've never taken advantage of. Okay, while I have it in mind their is a super sexy spinner named Jew who works at Cherry Bar on Second Road across from Big C. I chatted it up the couple times when I saw her working on my last couple trips, but never had the chance to bang her because I was with my regular TG everytime.

She is a super sweet looking piece of ass and I plan to degrade it when I get back in April. For a pretty out-of-the-way spot, Cherry bar has a lot to offer. I've banged two or three chickens from there with pretty much no complaints. It's a good place to while away the hours if you guys haven't checked it out already.

J Ride

Dinghy
02-25-07, 03:06
Bangkok Post had an article about 2 Pycckii dvev's (Russian ladies 25 and 30) snuffed (shot in head) in beach chairs at Jomtien at about 5am (local). Speculation is that they ran afoul of the local "pimperage" - the search for the gunman continues

J Ride
02-25-07, 03:45
Bangkok Post had an article about 2 Pycckii dvev's (Russian ladies 25 and 30) snuffed (shot in head) in beach chairs at Jomtien at about 5am (local). Speculation is that they ran afoul of the local "pimperage" - the search for the gunman continues

That's no good... Sometimes I forget how much the Thai, Russian and other forms of organized crime have their hands in our favorite hobby. Buyer beware.

Fun Times69
02-25-07, 10:00
Has anyone here found any action on the island of Koh Samet? As it is pretty close to Pattaya I'm asking the question here.

Any tips would be appreciated and followed by a report by myself. Thank you.

Giotto
02-25-07, 10:37
Has anyone here found any action on the island of Koh Samet? As it is pretty close to Pattaya I'm asking the question here.

Any tips would be appreciated and followed by a report by myself. Thank you.Fun Times 69,

I found basically no action! I wrote a report (Other Areas) last year.

There are some girls in the bars / discos on the island, but it is not really worth to talk about that. You better bring somebody to the island.


Giotto

Old Thai Hand
02-25-07, 11:41
Bangkok Post had an article about 2 Pycckii dvev's (Russian ladies 25 and 30) snuffed (shot in head) in beach chairs at Jomtien at about 5am (local). Speculation is that they ran afoul of the local "pimperage" - the search for the gunman continues

Here's the story including a pic of the bodies from the Pattaya Daily News.

http://www.pattayadailynews.com/index.php

Petemcc
02-25-07, 11:50
Here's the story including a pic of the bodies from the Pattaya Daily News.

http://www.pattayadailynews.com/index.php

I was about to post on this. I read about it a few days ago ( forgive me-on night shifts so it may have been only Fri night) on other chat boards. There are all sorts of theories. Russians are apparently more and more evident in Pattaya. Some say the killings are just a dispute with local Thais over deck chairs, some say it's the Russian mafia. I don't know. The Ruskies are getting a shit load of bad press on other chat boards about Patts, about being arseholes etc. I must say that I have never actually ever met a Russian person, so I cannot comment at all.
Obviously 2 white women being shot dead in Patts is a concern, and even if it's just internal Russian stuff, it's still a concern, so does anyone have any inside info about what it could really be?

Billy Ibrox
02-25-07, 14:29
The Russian babe was a hooker, well known to the go go gal I am butt fucking. Was fond of the discos. Bye bye trash.

As regards the wasted Kraut in the Fight Club: the cops here stiff a lot of shit. All those guys who jump off buildings or put plastic bags on their heads: they get helped by the Old Bill. Bye bye trash.

The taxis drivers on 2nd Road near Soi 9 have lot of dogs as pets. And yes, they rent them out.

Current bar rates: fines: 200-300 baht. Plus 300 for a quick fuck of one of the bar's dogs. The 4 legged ones are cheaper.

The camel jockeys pay top dollar and the Rossikie hung around there. Good hip hop music.

I did sme training up at Big Buddha with the heavies. Most of them are cops. All are serious pieces.

It is good living with the hookers. Anyone who has anything to do with them is a fool. They all have sleazy Thai boyfriends. Some pay 1 million baht for the babe and half a million for him. If you do bring one back home, chain her to the bed and share with your friends. Do NOT settle in rural Thailand. I met a Swiss guy, built his Soi 8 **** a bungalow, was made sleep outside. He got malaria. Remember these savages exist for one thing.

The weather is getting hot. It is hard to know who are uglier, the women, the punters or the 2nd Road dogs.

Ploughman
02-25-07, 16:20
I have to say in my opinion the most annoying thing I found on my last trip was the ugly russian women everywhere in pattaya. As far the ones dancing in the window above walking street, what a turn off ! Not good looking, totally unsexy and not in great shape. I just don't get it, my thai girl was laughing at them she said every guy says the thing about them. Plenty of Russian moo-cows wandering around as well, at least if you steer clear of walking steet you can generally avoid them. The russians girls who were somewhat decent looking had bodies that couldn't hold a candle to the Thai girls.I haven't ponied up the dough myself, but am willing to venture a look just for variety's sake. The old show they had at the Las Vegas place was tame on "showing" but interesting, and I'll never forget how one sequence ended with the Russian girls standing at attention, then sombre-ly pulling their string bikini tops aside to reveal their boobs without the slightest change infacial expression. Thais never could have done it that way. The rap on Russians is there's a certain depression built into the national psyche, possibly a byproduct of seasonal affective disorder.

The Las Vegas setup could pack in the (mostly Chinese/Taiwanese/other Asian) tour buses, whereas the Galaxy, IMO, overplays the hand with the expensive lady drinks. It's funny to watch when some dancers in the outside dance space get irritated when people take pictures, even though the dancers aren't nude and it isn't Amsterdam.

Generally, sanuk is not an inherently Russian thing. But it's hard to argue with variety, even if it's mostly for looking and not for buying.

Indy Tourist
02-25-07, 16:25
I just got back from my first trip to Pattaya. I arrived in Bangkok at 1am the first day and stayed at the Nana Hotel, it was fine. The real treat was the emptying of the "entertainmarnt plaza" around 2am. A wide variety of people wandered out as I was standing on the street watching the circus!

The next morning I walked down to the Skytrain to get a ride to the bus station. I had NO IDEA where I was going and asked directions from a girl walking the same direction. She said "Follow me, I'm walking right past the station". She helped me get the train ticket, and recognizing I was an idiot, offered to go with me to the bus station to show me how things worked. At the bus station she told me that she had a friend who lived in Pattaya and was familiar with the town. She made this offer: for 1,000 baht she would accompany me to Pattaya, teach me the "ropes" of Thai travel, make sure I got in my hotel okay, show me around town, then she would return the next morning after I was sufficiently "in place". I ended up keeping her for the entire vacation. She was a lot of fun and would accompany me to the go-go bars or whereever else I wanted to go (like a trip to the Kwai River bridge near Burma). So although I did not get to sample a mixture of the local talent I was kept VERY happy during my experience. If I go back, and I probably will, I have a really good basic understanding of the town and how to get around. So, even though my vacation was completely different from what I expected, it was a great success!

That's all I've got for now!

BostonBread
02-25-07, 18:06
There was another russian woman shot late last year. Makes it seem as though if there is mafia, then are they not ultimately shooting themselves in their pockets? Was going to goto visit for a night, but not now. Explains the higher prices for russians though.

Kurtweiler
02-25-07, 20:36
Anybody out there who can give us an update on Pump Station Bar in Soi Post Office? Any good?

Matt Navan Man
02-25-07, 21:04
She said "Follow me, I'm walking right past the station". She helped me get the train ticket, and recognizing I was an idiot, offered to go with me to the bus station to show me how things worked. At the bus station she told me that she had a friend who lived in Pattaya and was familiar with the town. She made this offer: for 1,000 baht she would accompany me to Pattaya, teach me the "ropes" of Thai travel, make sure I got in my hotel okay, show me around town, then she would return the next morning after I was sufficiently "in place". I ended up keeping her for the entire vacation. She was a lot of fun and would accompany me to the go-go bars or whereever else I wanted to go (like a trip to the Kwai River bridge near Burma).


Priceless. Only in Thailand!

Buzz00
02-25-07, 22:16
I am going to try and give some kind of picture from my POV but I am sure that I don't know half of what is going on in Pats.

Pete I am not sure what the deal is with this double murder and I am no expert but it could also be a warning of sorts to the Russians.Nothing was taken from these girls which makes the theory of a hit more credible.It would seem as if the Russians are moving in en masse, vacationers and working girls.Many Russian ladies on vacation in Pattaya try to make some extra money while they are there,so it stands to reason that they might be trampling on the wrong toes.This is an assumption.

Crime against tourists seems to have increased or perhaps we are just hearing about it more.What about the Israeli that was attacked after 12 on Beach Road and relieved of 2500.- Euro. I am not that sure the Russians are being targeted as such, but just tourists in general.If there is a mafia connection thats another story. Two good looking women sitting on a deserted beach in Jomtien at 3 am is inviting trouble.

From my limited experience and 'patrols' on Walking Street there are Russians but as far as I could see were going mostly for the Indian and Asian gents.As I had mentioned before there is also a bar on Walking Street near the FLB Bar where these ladies take a break so to speak.And also the VC Hotel at which some ISGers seemed to strike lucky. For the more adventurous gent there is a place called Galaxy but if you don't have a a big fist full of bucks to burn then forget it. I think the place is a rip off with beers costing 200 baht. The ladies are definitely good lookers.

I did have a few rendevous, one, with a very friendly but average looking red head and one with a not so nice Uzbeki. There are some good lookers around but one would have to seek them out and seeing that Jomtien is their neck of the woods, that might be the place to hang out as well.I got the feeling that they did not like being approached in Russian. On the other hand the discos become crowded with them late into the evening. Places like Lucifer,Marine and Tony's.They also tend to hang out in couples which is easy to spot but beware that some are legit tourists and some have bloody huge boy friends lurking around. You seriously don't want to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) of a Russian and less, a Russian that has some booze in him, Pete ?!? The Russian Mafia are totally ruthless and its safe to assume that if they can make money from P4P then they will do it, in Pattaya as well.

The Russian ladies are also way more expensive that is to say 1000.- baht ST and about 3000.- baht (maybe more) LT. In BKK some of them ask 2000.- baht ST.

I don't particularly go to Pattaya to look for Russians or Thais for that matter but basically to chill as it still seems to be one of the most reasonably priced places in the world.The fact that there is the choice, as well, of having a ladies company without having to go to extraordinary lengths is great.The Russians are tempting, but I find that Thais are still the way to go.My experiences judging from my last visit is that they are becoming less friendly and the rip off factor is very much in evidence.These are only my experiences and I could have made some bad choices.

Maggicman
02-26-07, 09:52
my fellow mongers. it gives me great pleasure to be able to report back to isg on my fantastic trip to los. thanks to all the info i gleaned from the many reports over the past few months, i was able to plan my trip thoroughly and was well informed. began my trip in dallas with a direct flight to tokyo. would suggest flying business class to be able to rest comfortably on the journey. after eating and drinking plenty of water, took a sedative and slept for six hours straight. got to tokyo and had only a couple of hours to kill. when i continued my jouirney on thai airways i was offered a row of four seats in the center aisle of the 747 to stretch out on and got some more shut eye. arriving in bkk i cleared customs quickly, not the crowd scene i was expecting. walked out with my luggage and was immediatly accosted by independent taxi drivers. luckily thanks to isg i knew to go downstairs to get a metered cab from the taxi stand. wonder how many newbees get screwed right out of the chute by the crooks that prowl the upper arrival hall. taxi ride to davis hotel on soi 26 was only around 200 baht plus tolls. good hotel, girl friendly but out of the way and a 20 minute walk from the bts.

went out to nana entertainment area my first night and got a short timer at a small pool bar just around the corner from nana hotel. next night went to cowboy2 and procured a girl for long time. breakfast was good at the hotel and after saying our goodbyes i made my way to the market at the end of the bts line. go early as it gets crazy full by noon.

the next morning made my way by taxi to the bus station and reserved a seat to pattaya. i didn't know there was seat assignment and ended up with the worst seat on the bus. seems i was assigned the seat behind the bulkhead wall that abutts the stairs going down to the toilet. i had to literally squeeze into a five inch space sideways. ended up hanging my long legs over the wall and braved the pain for two hours to patt. cost of ticket a very affordable 120 baht. don't let them give you seat #28!

having made reservations at the flipper lodge on soi 8 i checked in and was really pleased with my location as it's close to beach road and across from the sailor bar. there they have a twenty four hour restaurant that serves the best food around. the hotels best feature is the roof top swimming pool where you can get food and drinks served and have a view of the bay. i felt like family at the flipper. lot's of extended stay clientele and also very good food with a great place to sit and people watch. while the bathrooms are bare basic, the hotel makes up for it's furnishing shortfalls by excellent location and easy sign in for the girls. met a group of swedes at the flipper who had thai wifes and girl friends. they took me under their wing and showed me the sights of pattaya. after doing the walking street scene i was glad to get back to my side of town. flipper is easy walking distance to soi 6 and also to the tops supermarket. i did find all that i needed on soi 8 and soi 7 right near the hotel. found my first two day girl at a small bar between soi 7 and 8. her name was foon and she was truly delightful. internet savvy and well spoken but not hardened. seems she is from bkk and will continue her studies as soon as she has enough under the mattress. must have gotten lucky as she told me she turned down 4 guys before allowing me to take her away. bar fine was three hundred without drinks or two hundred with two drinks. since i bought her a drink to get aquainted, we settled on 1, 000 for long time. as i am well endowed it was an extremely tight fit but she graciously endured. as with all the ladies i had she immediatly took a shower after reaching the room and then proceeded to straighten out all of my clothes and toiletries. she was so fine i just had to pay my respects at the alter of love. when asked if i could dive in face first she replied the standard thai phrase "up to you". she insisted i must be married as i got high marks with my technique of licking and sucking with my finger on her g-spot. after getting a glazed doughnut face which she called "making honey" she insisted on pleasing me. slept like a baby. got up early and proceeded to hammer her gently again. after cleaning up for the third time we had a leisurely breakfast hung out at the pool for a bit and then she peeled off for home to change clothes and returned at exactly 3 pm as i requested. had another glorious night and then went to the internet place at the sunshine hotel. she was truly the best and we really got along great. should have kept her for the duration but opted out for variety. more reports and pictures later. oh yeah, the *******russians were all over walking street and what pricks they were. pushy and glum, always in packs and talking loudly on their cellphones. almost got accosted outside the hopf brewery by a couple of them. seems they wouldn't share the ashtray outside the place. hoarding the spot and not yielding. more later about the bastards.

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Billy Ibrox
02-26-07, 13:08
If you walk towards Pattaya from the Big Buddha, past the Tourist Police, there is a quiet country type street heading towards the sea and "motorway". Lots of 100 baht blow jobs behind the bushes on this soi. The women and the old age ladyboy there stink like fuck but for 100 baht you can't go wrong. (the smell is more glue or cough mixture than not washing but with monkeys you never know) During the day, there is little chance of getting mugged. They let you [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on them too if that is your bag.

The good news is soi 7 and 8 are for the chop: more big hotels, more package tours, more Russian mafia. As I say, most of those plastic bag suicides and guys jumping off high rise are really murders. Go into Soi 9 cop shop. It is a bribe collecting agency not a police station. You think they preserve any of the forensics? Look at the 100 baht gambling games they break. There is some very serious gamblin going on here on EPL etc etc.

Bar fines are 200-300 baht. You can get a beer bar horse or 300 baht. Most of the guys pay 500 baht long time for these girls.

BuleDaddy
02-27-07, 04:46
Bangkok Post had an article about 2 Pycckii dvev's (Russian ladies 25 and 30) snuffed (shot in head) in beach chairs at Jomtien at about 5am (local). Speculation is that they ran afoul of the local "pimperage" - the search for the gunman continues

Anything is possible with that mix of international Rif Raf. Never seen a limey with a chelsea cut in London but have seen many in Pattaya.

Freeman 418
02-27-07, 09:23
Classic.. more more!

I have to say, I didn't find these hidden spots of delite in Pattaya last time.. first time newbie that I was. I'm due there in another 2 weeks, and will definitely look out for these high value areas.. provided I've had a few drinks (in alcoholics paradise aka pattaya) to smooth over the senses a bit.

Police info was rather interesting.. though again, nothing out of the norm in SE asia.


If you walk towards Pattaya from the Big Buddha, past the Tourist Police, there is a quiet country type street heading towards the sea and "motorway". Lots of 100 baht blow jobs behind the bushes on this soi. The women and the old age ladyboy there stink like fuck but for 100 baht you can't go wrong. (the smell is more glue or cough mixture than not washing but with monkeys you never know) During the day, there is little chance of getting mugged. They let you [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on them too if that is your bag.

Bumholes1
02-27-07, 09:56
If you walk towards Pattaya from the Big Buddha, past the Tourist Police, there is a quiet country type street heading towards the sea and "motorway". Lots of 100 baht blow jobs behind the bushes on this soi. The women and the old age ladyboy there stink like fuck but for 100 baht you can't go wrong. (the smell is more glue or cough mixture than not washing but with monkeys you never know) During the day, there is little chance of getting mugged. They let you [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on them too if that is your bag.Never spotted the old Ladyboy. Occasionally there are some good ones there. I had one for 200 - went to a hotel with her. 2 shots and could have had more. Full GFE. After asked her how much and she still only wanted 200.

Most times though they are rough - really rough.

LukeSkyWanker
02-27-07, 22:44
I am about to make a return trip to Pattaya the first one this year, this talk of Russians is disconcerting, if they are allowed to become established it will spoil Pattaya for everyone. Prices will go up, Service will go down and there will be no such a thing as a GFE the Thai goverment need to look after their own and vet the single Russian females when they arrive in Thailand. Ok maybe the Thai authorities would prefer families and couples visiting Pattaya rather than single men but I know for a fact when I go away with her indoors I spend less money than when I am on my own as I live like a king. Also I would make sure I visited a nice clean beach and sea when I am with my family and Pattaya certainly isn't a blue flag resort. Cleaning Beach road (of girls) is nowhere near as important as cleaning the sea and beach in front of it.

Look after the clientele you have already, they have helped to build a new airport and many many Thais rely on the existing business.

May the force be with you.

Buzz00
02-28-07, 17:14
Police Lieutenant General Asawin also reported that spectators in Walking Street had previously seen the two victims, who were always together. However, they were never followed or molested by locals, Thai or foreigners. The police admit that they are still unclear about the motives for the killing, which could have been robbery, gangsters’ reprisals, or just a local with a grudge. There has long been animosity between Thai “working ladies” and foreigners who come to Thailand to compete in the lucrative sex trade.

This is from the Pattaya Post today which seems to strengthen the theory that these 2 ladies might have been trying to make some extra bucks on the side.

I tend to like the Russians even though they seem to be pushing prices up and they should really stick to their own turf. Murdering these women, if they had been trying to earn extra money is nothing short of barbaric to say the least.

It goes to show that who ever did it will stop at nothing and the Thais are up there when it come to violence and being ruthless.

Free enterprise, as one can see, does not really work in all places and hopefully this won't start some kind of turf war.

Happychappy
03-01-07, 04:49
That Asshole wrote a few months ago:

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TRETES:
Some more options near the BIG siti:
Distance from Surabaya: 60 km south
The “cats” live in the myriad little alleys between the streets. You will need local help to find them and have a look.
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A question: I've found cat houses only up the steep hill beside the Natour/Inna Hotel. Are there many such houses up the other end of town, opposite the Surya Hotel??

Billy Ibrox
03-01-07, 09:16
Building is going on at a hectic pace, even miles outside of Pattaya. Huge complexes as far away as 17 miles past Jomtien. I went down the private beaches between Pattaya and Jomtien, 7 k baht a night. Nova Lodge and Montien are also set for demolition.

Tony has a 26 bed room hotel for sale down Jomtien beach, 17 million baht obo. But there are hotels being built all around it. So give it another few years and Pattaya will be utterly changed.

As regards the ladyboys: how about giving some reports instead of tossing off on mine? There are ladyboys everywhere now. That is a sign of decay to me.Decay and regeneration. That means getting rid of the riff raff who stay in the Montien and Nova Lodge and getting in more Russians and Chinese. The Russians are a probem as they are big, get drunk and argue the bills. But they are the future.

I am doing a few nixers driving escorts around. Kinda interesting seeing how the other half get their over priced nookie. It is also interesting living with the "ladies" and confirming there is a Thai waster behind each and every one of them.

A good bit of entertainment is to go down Soi 7 early in the morning - around 7 am before the national anthem and changing of the shift - and see all the riff raff being led off in chains.

So lots of riff raff hookers near Big Buddha, camel jockeys paying way extra, good escort scene if you can avoid Russian lead, building boom boom. What's new with you?

Is there anywhere in Pattaya to buy good, luxury products? That is hwere it is going. Bye bye to the sex tourist tyre kickers. Hello to the Russians, the long term retirees, the escorts and 101 Dalmatians.

One more piece of advice, to repeat. Most of the suicides here are guys getting fucked off balconies or having plastic bags put over them. A plastic bag is not the way to go. I would advise asking former members about that but they are no longer with us.

Traffic777
03-01-07, 18:07
Anybody out there who can give us an update on Pump Station Bar in Soi Post Office? Any good?Was there the other night. BJ in bar on the 2nd floor is 370B, in a room 400B. Girls are average at best. Have yet to look into other bj bars on that street.

BuleDaddy
03-02-07, 04:31
[QUOTE=Billy Ibrox]Building is going on at a hectic pace, even miles outside of Pattaya. Huge complexes as far away as 17 miles past Jomtien. I went down the private beaches between Pattaya and Jomtien, 7 k baht a night. Nova Lodge and Montien are also set for demolition.
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It will always have LBs, Jumpers, trollups that will hand you a card with their bank routing number before they've even fellated you, low rent Ruskies, and modern day Popeyes that want something better then their Olive Oil (pun) back home. There ain't no changing that place. The bar girl run that town and always will.

Eggsalad
03-02-07, 09:21
Hello Gentlemen

I am returning to Pattaya again this April. I used to pay my hotel 1400 bht to send a car. I know it is expensive but I split it with a buddy and they have nice cars. But with the new Airport being closer, they still charge the same amount. What do the taxis at the airport charge for a ride to Pattaya?

Egg

Traffic777
03-02-07, 12:55
Hello Gentlemen

I am returning to Pattaya again this April. I used to pay my hotel 1400 bht to send a car. I know it is expensive but I split it with a buddy and they have nice cars. But with the new Airport being closer, they still charge the same amount. What do the taxis at the airport charge for a ride to Pattaya?

EggMore or less same-same, but if you get them to use a meter it's like 1050.

Cactus J
03-02-07, 16:43
Mr Toom picks you up at airport, all tolls included for 1200b. They have good Volvos, nicely kept. He was reliable for pickup but badly screwed up a return trip to Bangkok a month later. [Email address deleted by Admin]

Cactus J

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Asshole Big
03-02-07, 16:50
Hello Gentlemen

I am returning to Pattaya again this April. I used to pay my hotel 1400 bht to send a car. I know it is expensive but I split it with a buddy and they have nice cars. But with the new Airport being closer, they still charge the same amount. What do the taxis at the airport charge for a ride to Pattaya?

EggFrom Bangkok to Pattaya is 800 Bath + 60 Bath for the road its tages 90 minutes.

WeaverWorld
03-03-07, 13:30
Went by Classroom on soi Pattayaland 2 and had a few drinks, nice place and all, no real nudity but there was a few lookers there.

One of them was a real cute girl, her name was Pookie I believe never got the chance to try that since i was otherwise engaged at that time.

Has anyone been there and tried that? Know what the price is? She has huge fake boobs but they look really good though.

Wtboatr
03-04-07, 05:36
Here's the latest info on the two Russian ladies that were murdered in Jomtiem. It's very sad and very strange.

-- wt

http://www.pattayacitynews.net/news_24_02_50_2.htm

http://www.pattayacitynews.net/news_24_02_50_2.htm

http://www.pattayacitynews.net/news_02_03_50_3.htm

http://www.pattayacitynews.net/news_03_03_50_2.htm

Traffic777
03-04-07, 06:18
Went by Classroom on soi Pattayaland 2 and had a few drinks, nice place and all, no real nudity but there was a few lookers there.

One of them was a real cute girl, her name was Pookie I believe never got the chance to try that since i was otherwise engaged at that time.

Has anyone been there and tried that? Know what the price is? She has huge fake boobs but they look really good though.Yeah, went there a couple of days ago. Schoolgirl #49 quoted B1600 ST (barfine included), I'm sure it was negotiable, but I wasn't interested.

Jelly37
03-04-07, 08:21
Can someone give me directions to Hell Club please. I'd like to give it a try, based on what I've read in the forums. I looked back through the forum for location and didn't find it. Apologize if it's been listed previously (which in all likelihood it has). Thanks. I know Pattaya pretty well, and I'm here currently.

Correspondent
03-04-07, 13:56
Went by Classroom on soi Pattayaland 2 and had a few drinks, nice place and all, no real nudity but there was a few lookers there.

One of them was a real cute girl, her name was Pookie I believe never got the chance to try that since i was otherwise engaged at that time.

Has anyone been there and tried that? Know what the price is? She has huge fake boobs but they look really good though.Hi all,

Just joined ISG and thought I would start by answering a question.

Classroom certainly has some cute girls, which unfortunately changes from time to time as girls leave to be replaced by others.

Pookie doesnt appear on their website (that I could see) but she could be a very new 'student' there.

To be honest, the standard of girls featured on their website is far from the best I have seen.

I once was very keen on a girl there who would see me after hours and on her days off. You might say I fell in lust with her. The problem is the bar manager also had his eyes on her and messed her up enough that she quit the bar. Made it very difficult to track her down again.

Huge fake boobs sound like fun - anyone in Pattaya now who can pop in and take a quick look (or even a ST barfine) should be able to give a good first hand report.

Cheers!

Gladiator
03-04-07, 15:33
Here's the latest info on the two Russian ladies that were murdered in Jomtiem. It's very sad and very strange.

-- wt

http://www.pattayacitynews.net/news_03_03_50_2.htm

It looks like the police have finally found the right fall guy to finish with this case.

Duniawala
03-04-07, 16:57
isn't it amazing to see the thai cops solving all the robberies and murder with remarkable speed, especially some within a few hours. they are the best in the world.............

Wonderer
03-04-07, 18:41
I stayed about one week in Pattaya for my 6th time this February, and I must say there are a few things that changed since my last visits. Most of the changes are not to the positive for our hobby.

I try to give some update information, from my perspective and as I have seen and experienced it. Since (apparently) things change fast in this town, the information is valid now and might not be completely true anymore in the future.

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General
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There seems to be a stronger grip on the business here. As reported in other posts already, the police apparently want to keep the WG's off the Beach Road promenade. At night, the promenade is lit up with strong lights, so it is easier (for the police – not for us) to spot the WG's, and they anyhow don't like the strong light.

On the other hand, I was walking along the Beach Road promenade, and have found quite a number of WG's during day time, around 2 PM. They can be found particularly between Soi 8 and the Walking Street. Some of them were butt ugly, but some were relatively nice, and might even be worth a try. I have never picked a girl from Beach Road, however as I am more into the bar scene in and near Walking Street.

The closing hour of 02:30 AM is now more strictly enforced. In the past, I rarely experienced any bar to close at this time. This time, it happened to me twice to be sitting in a bar at say 02:45 AM, drinking a beer and the staff told me that the keep open. But then, all of a sudden all the light goes on and they hurry to cash in: LE is arriving to check the closing hour.

Then it also happened to me twice (in Coyotees and another bar) that the naked girls jumped off the stage and run to the backrooms. Thirty seconds later they were on stage again, with bikinis, right at the moment when the LE inspector arrived.

If this trend continues, there might soon be a market niche for another city in the world to take the place of Pattaya as the world city of "sex, fun, and sin".

I noted with satisfaction, hower, that the level of English knowledge seems to be continuously increasing among the WG's here.

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Gogo Bars
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I usually take my girls from the gogo bars, since they tend to be prettier and easier to find.
So, I made my tour again and have taken out some of the nicer ones (to my taste). Here is a summary of the current situation (from my point of view).

Soi Diamond
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Super Baby and Super Girl
As usual some of the prettiest girls. But I was disappointed how inactive (reserved?) they are and what kind of "funeral face" they make. This is no fun. Either their pockets are full of money, they are arrogant, or they miss the point of the game. I have seen a few Asian customers taking some out. But most Asian customers have a different approach. They see a nice one, and then they tell the mamasan to call her to the table. Then, the price is usually quickly agreed, and off they go. These customers apparently do not care too much about personality and having some fun besides the pure sex.

The Sea
This used to be one of my favorites in the past, and I had found some girls with most beautiful tits in this place. Now, the quality has significantly dropped, and it was difficult to find one worth taking out. On my last day then I have taken out Kuang and Oi, but they are both pretty inexperienced. Kuang has been in the business for about 5 months, but Oi only one month, and I was told she was out with a customer only once. Anyhow, in my room, the two messed everything up and did everything right to turn me off. Not worth a repeat.

The Carousel
Variable quality, perhaps you might find a gem from time to time – I did not see it, however, this time. In earlier times, I had found some quite nice once, though.

Paris Follies
In the past, I found one of the funniest and most inhibited girl in this place. This time, it rather seems the quality has dropped.

Naughty girls
Nothing worth to remember.

"New" Star a gogo
They already open in the afternoon (I think around 4 PM) and have an early show. Not bad, but I did not see the stunners there. But the girls are active and definitely want to be taken out. Perhaps I should have done it.

Shark (upstairs)
A lot of noise about big and with beautiful girls, but I did not find it worthwhile to stay. Also in the past, I have never found nice girls there.

Tiger a gogo (upstairs)
New club, but nothing special to remember.

Heaven above (upstairs)
Sometimes they offer vouchers for free drinks, when the evening is young. I tried it, and as usual, the girls were average at best. But funny enough, even though my beer was really free, the girls were completely inactive and did not even ask for a drink. I think they miss the opportunity (to make some money).


Other gogo bars along the Walking Street
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There are a number of (smaller) bars along the walking street, but I did not find any of them really worthwhile to stay, except the ones described below.

New Living Dolls One (sea side – not to be confused with Living Dolls!)
If you are lucky you might find some nice and funny girls. Don't be too late, though, otherwise they are gone. Negative: beer costs 120 THB, while in most other places it is 95.

Living Dolls (sea side – not to be confused with Living Dolls No. One!)
You may find two or three nice girls here as well. On my first day, I selected Mei #18. She had a very nice and big rack and quite a pretty face. Not completely slim, but just right for the fun. She turned out to be my best experience during this time in Pattaya. However, when I picked her a second time (which I usually don't do at all!), she was nice and a good company for the dinner and going to the Blues Factory. But back in my room, nothing of the good experience from the first time was left. She tried to finish it quickly and then wanted to leave. I told her my disappointment and that we had a good time all night a few days ago. But she did not even remember it and said that she does never stay overnight. It seems she had a complete blackout or did not want to remember, for whatever reason. This was really strange, after the definitely good experience we both had the first time. Therefore, she was yet another proof for my rule not to repeat a good experience.

Peppermint (sea side, upstairs)
Table dance place. I.e. the girls dance on mirror tables, so you look down to see what is up under the skirts. O.k. place, and some of the girls might be worth a try.

Dollhouse (sea side)
A few nice girls. However, be careful some of them (even the younger ones) look pretty at distance, but when you look closer, they have pregnancy marks on the belly, which I do not consider very stimulating.

Angels a Gogo (city side)
Here I found some pretty girls in the past, but this time nothing noteworthy.

Honey a Gogo (sea side)
Nothing noteworthy

Silver Star (sea side, near the entrance from Beach Road)
Nothing noteworthy.

Beavers (city side, near entrance)
Table dance club. Not bad, but nothing special either.

Pinky girl (sea side)
Bath tub shows, not bad, but the girls look average.


Other well-known gogo bars, somewhat away from the "main" Walking Street
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Boesché (city side, after the Nang Nual restaurant)
Still good place with some nice girls. I have taken out one from here. She had a very nice body and she was no disappointment.

Catz (same place as Boesché)
Might have some good girls, but I never found here what I was looking for.

Beach Club (same soi as Angel’s Witch)
Table dance bar with the famous mirror tables. While the girls here used to be quite short in the past, the present selection is definitely taller. There are also some stunners. I have seen one (#26 See) who really had a killer body with perfect tits. Unfortunately, the girls here are not very active, so you must be active yourself. I have done that and have taken out #26. She is a real stunner. But in my room, just after the deed, it turned out she was sick and was coughing a lot, so we had to reduce the planned LT to a ST. I even contracted a terrible cold from her. Prices for the Beach Club girls are high, and the standard request is 2000 THB for ST and 3000 THB for LT.

Angel's Witch
Still the place with the best shows. There are also a number of stunners. Usually it is relatively difficult, though, to catch them since there are so many show blocks, and you don't have a lot of time to look at the dancers and call her to come over when her dance is finished.

Electric Blue (behind Diamond Plaza, towards the city side)
This is a place, which I had not seen before. By chance I dropped in. There was one girl, an absolute stunner. Tall, perfect body and some very, very beautiful tits. She is relatively big and with a tremendous shape. She came then to sit with me, and we had a good chat. It turned out that she is only 18 (that's what she said), and is already in business for 15 months – you make the calculation. Either she was lying or worked illegal. Anyhow, this girl's body and dancing talent were outstanding. Her English was quite good, and she had a nice personality. However, piercing is a complete turn-off for me. And she had a nose piercing, a lip piercing and a tongue piercing (I did not see whether she also had others). This was the only reason, why I did not take her immediately. If anyone of you is into piercing and tattoo – she is a must. I don't recall the number, but when you are there, you can't miss her. She has tattooed a line of stars diagonal across her back.

Coyotees
Nice place with some nice girls as well. You leave the Walking Street towards the Blues Factory and continue to the backside, until you find the sign. I discovered here a girl with a stunner body and very cute face (if I remember correctly, her name was Ann). She had really big tits with very nice shape. She is not completely slim, but just right and well proportioned. My test grip proved that the tits are also real. We sat together for quite a while, and had a nice "foreplay" in the bar. I was decided to take her out. When she requested 2000 THB for ST and 4000 for LT, I told her that normally I do not pay more than 2000 for LT. She did not agree. We had then some discussion, and even the mamasan tried to convince her to agree to 2500 (or at least mamasan pretended). The girl then had another round of dancing, and when she came back, I told her my last offer was 3000 (which is already very exceptional and was only justified by her stunning look and assumed personality). As she insisted then on 4000, I told her that she must find her luck with another one. I am sure that there are guys who pay this amount (usually, Asian customers are pretty easy to pay higher amounts), but I think we must not spoil the market. And on top, as I offered "only" 3000, she turned rather nasty – I am pretty sure that her "personality" was only pretended, and she might even have been a disappointment in bed.


Soi 13/1, 13/2
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There are a number of gogo bars, but I did not find anything attractive there.


Soi 13/3
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This is for the pervert, looking for boys, therefore nothing for this forum. There is one gogo bar with girls, but not worth the effort.


Soi 13/4 and 14(?)
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Mostly for the pervert. Soi 14 is called "Boy's town"


Soi 1 & 2
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There are a number of open bars at the 2nd Road, between Soi 1 & 2, but still no pretty girls there. In Soi 2, at the side of 2nd Road, there is a gogo bar called "Classroom", but I was not successful to find any nice girls there.

A hostess bar called "Honey Pot" is just adjacent to the Classroom gogo bar. There are two or three nice girls dancing in the windows, apparently as "eye catcher", but when you go inside, the quality of the girls does not match the eye catchers.


Body Massage
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As recommended some time ago in the ISG Pattaya thread, I tried the Sabai Room ("prettiest girls, but the rooms are terrible"). I agree that the rooms are (still) a disaster, even though they did some refurbishment on the outside of the building. There were a number of quite nice girls, and I have chosen #257 who looked pretty active and had a nice smile when she was in the fishbowl. She turned out, however, to be a bad choice. Very mechanical, standard program, and on top her presumably nice tits (under the bra) turned out to be worn out and hanging lose. Same for her belly with pregnancy marks. And on top, the chassis was quite a bit wide for the otherwise nice shape and pretty face.

I would try Sabai Room again, but definitely with a different girl. Or rather, next time I will try another Body Massage (Sabai Land or Sabai Dee) and report from there.


Music and Entertainment
****************************

Blues Factory (city side, between Soi Diamond and Club Boesché)
This is still one of my favorites, and I always go there at least once, whenever I am in Pattaya. The team is still the same, not getting younger, but their music and entertainment is still worthwhile to watch. Particularly the female singer (Mary) is unique and a bundle full of energy.



Conclusion
*************
Depite the somewhat mixed experince this time, I am sure I will return to Pattaya once. If you have been there it’s like getting addict.

Unfortunately, I was not able to take some pictures this time. The WG's became also more professional in this area. They all told me that too many guys had taken pictures of girls and then posted somewhere on the Internet. They would never want this to happen to them. It seems some of us have messed it up.

Nevertheless, I am going to post some pictures in the Photo Gallery. I took them during my visit to Pattaya in September 2006.



Wonderer – and wish you happy hunting

Opebo
03-04-07, 19:56
i visited pattaya briefly and found the beach road as before - a shadow of its former glory. during the day there are a few girls to be found, though not many, and much less attractive than in the past. the patrols continue at night, with almost no girls visible from about eight or nine pm till around eleven or midnight, a which point a few trickle out on the land-side. late night is a little better - it seems the black-shirts are not as active then, though many are still hovering around. during the 8-11 dead spot it is best to look on the front stoop of the mall there - i forget the name, but the russian-filled excrescence just south of soi yamoto.

as to why these few girls stick it out while so many have given it up, i was offered this explanation by one of the girls: apparently the cops jail for extended periods anyone who has no id, tests positive for drugs in the [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109), or both. the few remaining girls who have ids and do not regularly do drugs can then make huge money as the beach is full of about the same number of customers as before, but with at most 10% of the supply.

the girl who explained this to me said she averages 5-6 guys per day, so about 2,500-3,000 baht. it has become a sellers market, even in the low season. this does not bode well for prices or service, brothers. as has been said often on various isg boards, reduction in drug availability is bad news for mongers.

i also took a drive up to the big buddha area and saw four or five girls there. i suppose those girls operate there so that they can flee into the forest when the police come to harrass them.

finally i visited an area of kareokes off the thepprasit road. i'm not sure if these were the ones mentioned before as charging 200-300 baht, but i was asked for 600, and they didn't look sufficiently downmarket. of course i didn't participate at those prices. there were some cute young girls there, but also many no better than those at the farang bars. one can only imagine the level of service at such thai-oriented joints.

as bad as the beach has become, it still beats a bar. has anyone heard the old saying 'go to the beach to fuck someone, go to the bar to get fucked'?

Eggsalad
03-05-07, 10:52
I stayed about one week in Pattaya for my 6th time this February, and I must say there are a few things that changed since my last visits. Most of the changes are not to the positive for our hobby.



Wonderer

I know what you mean about being addicted. I was there for my 5th time in Oct of 06 and I just bought my tickets for my 6th trip in April, 07. BTW, my first time was just under 4 years ago. During my last trip, I noticed much of the same changes you have. I can't believe a place like Pattaya can change so quickly. I've notice the quality of the girls have declined in both looks and performance. It seems the only things that keep going up are the prices. Coming from the US, the prices are still cheap but paying it gets harder when the performances keep falling. One of the reasons I fell in love with the town was the GFE. I find this be be more and more difficult to find. If you want, you can read my last trip report. Having said all that, I still going back. It is still better than most any other place I can think of. Let's just hope this latest trend is just that, a trend. Perhaps when most of us stop going for a while, things will improve. I'm giving it one more chance next month. If I don't see a reversion to the past, I might just skip this town for a little while. I may go back to Rio and give it another chance or try Columbia, Panama or else where that is a little closer to home. I do have to admit though that I am totally addicted to Pattaya and think about it all the time. I think it might be a disease.

Egg

Doctor_Skank
03-05-07, 11:01
Wonderer

I know what you mean about being addicted. ...I do have to admit though that I am totally addicted to Pattaya and think about it all the time. I think it might be a disease.

Egg

You might want to avoid using the words "disease" and "Pattaya" in the same paragraph... :)

But seriously, I am considering a trip to LOS this winter after a nearly 10 year abstinence from BKK and Pattaya on my part... sounds like the market is going sour though. Are there better alternatives in Thailand itself?

Correspondent
03-05-07, 14:16
You might want to avoid using the words "disease" and "Pattaya" in the same paragraph... :)

But seriously, I am considering a trip to LOS this winter after a nearly 10 year abstinence from BKK and Pattaya on my part... sounds like the market is going sour though. Are there better alternatives in Thailand itself?10 years!!! Man, you will notice significant changes upon your return.

The Baht has fluctuated all over the place in recently although you're lucky you haven't had to live through this. 42 to the US, down to a low of 33 in 1 year. The hotter go-go dancers have made ruthless moneymaking an artform, both in Bangkok and Pattaya. The closer your trip is to June, the better the market is in the buyer's favour. Patong is similar to Pattaya although smaller. Don't know if I would say that the hottest girl's attitudes are any better. If beer bars are your thing, then you can always find a diamond in the rough if you are willing to put the time into looking.

Chiang Mai is interesting and has a smallish mongering scene. Is a bit more work and some of the best hotels are difficult to get girls into, but there are always ways around this. Udon Thani has a nightlife scene although you need to have a bit of adventurer in you. Koh Samui has bargirls doting to the farang beach-tourist scene and prices can be different to what you exepct the girl is actually worth.

Bangkok is a big place and there are many more avenues to explore than the usual foreigner focused Sois. If you use the search feature on the Bangkok forum you should find some recent information on the newer areas of Bangkok which could be what you are looking for. Ultimately, if you want quality you will have to pay a lot for it (in comparison to cheaper options in Thailand and other SE Asian countries). These girls and bars are well aware of what they are worth these days, and if competition for them is high (eg. around Christmas or in fancy nightclubs) then you might have to pay through the nose!

Dinghy
03-05-07, 22:34
depends Doc - for ease and availability BKK is OK, Pattaya tends to be "cheaper". While the FL options seem to be better in BKK, there are (well, WERE anyway, in November) some availability on Beach during the day. Naturally, for the NATIVES (which we are NOT) there are more "options". I don't know what your Thai language ability is as compared to Pycckie yazik (but you might have some good luck with the dyev "tourists" in Pattaya).

Eggsalad - depends on what "quality level" you expect - "true" GFE is rare, as is the TG who "just loves to fuck for fucks sake" (AKA - "nympho") IF you find the rare piece you want to "keep" longer, go do a blood test and see if she's worth barebacking. The MOST upsetting thing is the rise in the Bhat versus the $$. Price creep (sort of)

Doctor_Skank
03-05-07, 23:11
depends Doc - for ease and availability BKK is OK, Pattaya tends to be "cheaper". While the FL options seem to be better in BKK, there are (well, WERE anyway, in November) some availability on Beach during the day. Naturally, for the NATIVES (which we are NOT) there are more "options". I don't know what your Thai language ability is as compared to Pycckie yazik (but you might have some good luck with the dyev "tourists" in Pattaya).

Eggsalad - depends on what "quality level" you expect - "true" GFE is rare, as is the TG who "just loves to fuck for fucks sake" (AKA - "nympho") IF you find the rare piece you want to "keep" longer, go do a blood test and see if she's worth barebacking. The MOST upsetting thing is the rise in the Bhat versus the $$. Price creep (sort of)

Thanks for the advice Dinghy and Correspondent!

Actually Dinghy, I was looking to get away from the dyevs for awhile... still love them over anything, but I need to taste a different flavor if you know what I mean. I'm looking at either LOS, Japan (a first for me) or Indonesia... was thinking about Brazil, but will likely do that next year.

LOS is the easiest solution, so don't be surprised if I am stumbling around the beer bars in Pattaya sometime soon... even if the scene isn't what it used to be, I will still find Singha and connect4 to pass my time... :)

ThaiLearner
03-06-07, 01:13
Wonderer

I know what you mean about being addicted. I was there for my 5th time in Oct of 06 and I just bought my tickets for my 6th trip in April, 07. BTW, my first time was just under 4 years ago. During my last trip, I noticed much of the same changes you have. I can't believe a place like Pattaya can change so quickly. I've notice the quality of the girls have declined in both looks and performance. It seems the only things that keep going up are the prices. Coming from the US, the prices are still cheap but paying it gets harder when the performances keep falling. One of the reasons I fell in love with the town was the GFE. I find this be be more and more difficult to find. If you want, you can read my last trip report. Having said all that, I still going back. It is still better than most any other place I can think of. Let's just hope this latest trend is just that, a trend. Perhaps when most of us stop going for a while, things will improve. I'm giving it one more chance next month. If I don't see a reversion to the past, I might just skip this town for a little while. I may go back to Rio and give it another chance or try Columbia, Panama or else where that is a little closer to home. I do have to admit though that I am totally addicted to Pattaya and think about it all the time. I think it might be a disease.

Egg

You could also try cuba

Freeman 418
03-06-07, 10:23
Eggsalad - depends on what "quality level" you expect - "true" GFE is rare, as is the TG who "just loves to fuck for fucks sake" (AKA - "nympho") IF you find the rare piece you want to "keep" longer, go do a blood test and see if she's worth barebacking. The MOST upsetting thing is the rise in the Bhat versus the $$. Price creep (sort of)

Yes, this is a MAJOR upset. Yesterday/Monday the Baht to US/AUD was the strongest I have ever seen.. A few years back I got 33-34 Bt to 1 AUD, now it's about 35Bt to 1 USD! Instead of surviving easily on $100-200 a day, suddenly everything is $300+ depending on your lifestyle.

This has GOT to hurt Thailand's trade surely.. I've already booked my ticket to LOS for 2 weeks to go, however, this might very well be the last trip to LOS, since other markets such as China, PI, Ind. etc. are looking much better bang 4 buck.

Eggsalad
03-07-07, 10:14
Eggsalad - depends on what "quality level" you expect - "true" GFE is rare, as is the TG who "just loves to fuck for fucks sake" (AKA - "nympho") IF you find the rare piece you want to "keep" longer, go do a blood test and see if she's worth barebacking. The MOST upsetting thing is the rise in the Bhat versus the $$. Price creep (sort of)

Dinghy

What I meant by "quality" is what I saw just a short 3 1/2 years ago in Pattaya. Now before I start to explain, let me just say that I know these are working girls and what we see is part of an act. I realize that. But I remember when TG's used to "fall in love" with us and hang on to us. They actually made you feel like it was a relationship even though you both knew it wasn't. That level of performance is getting harder and harder to find, at least in my limited experience. That is what I miss the most about Pattaya. Don't get me wrong, that can still be found but not as frequently. That's my two cents. Have fun gentlemen.

Egg

Ps. One more thing...I realize how lucky we all are to have experienced an incredible place like Pattaya. For most people I know, trips like this are once in a lifetime. But I do it about twice a year. Maybe I should feel more fortunate and stop bitching so much :)

Bumholes1
03-07-07, 11:15
Dinghy

But I remember when TG's used to "fall in love" with us and hang on to us. They actually made you feel like it was a relationship even though you both knew it wasn't. That level of performance is getting harder and harder to find, at least in my limited experience. I would agree entirely. 20 years ago Pattaya was full of nice girls who were happy to be with you, and gave their all for you. Nowadays it is only money money money.

It all changed around 14 years ago. Pattaya grew and grew, girls arrived by the busload daily, and the personal experience went out of the window.

There are still a few gems around, but very hard to find

Thai Me Up
03-07-07, 16:58
Hey fellas,

I haven't enjoyed Pattaya since the end of Aug, last year. Looks like a lot might have changed starting with the exchange rate. I have read some of your reports, so I am a bit discouraged. I plan on being there between 3/31 and 4/15. I'll be coming from the US. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like my normal traveling buddies will be able to join me on this one. If any of you will be around during that time, would love to meet up.

Traffic777
03-07-07, 19:44
Will visit CP from 11-21. Any ISG mongers will be highly welcomed and appreciated to "working" together. Pm me if you need my local cell phone number.

The AF
03-07-07, 20:21
Can someone give me directions to Hell Club please. I'd like to give it a try, based on what I've read in the forums. I looked back through the forum for location and didn't find it. Apologize if it's been listed previously (which in all likelihood it has). Thanks. I know Pattaya pretty well, and I'm here currently. Went to the Hell Club today, which is the exact branch of the Eden Club in Bangkok.

Guys, this is a MUST VISIT (as is the Eden). You go in, choose a girl and let her choose another and you go upstairs with both of them 90 Minutes. ! You can even choose uniforms, they can wear like stockings, Nurse, School or Maid outfit.

Before the session they shower with you, wash you and then yu can do anything with them. Some even do anal, depending whom you have chosen. ! All girls usually kiss with tongue, CIM and even CIF. They fuck each other with strap ons and kiss and lick. Some even lick your anus. ! You can cum twice easily and in between sessions they massage U. !

In the end you pay 3600 bath to the Bar Lady, which is a lot for Thailand but nothing for such a great pleasure. If you are not satisfied you get your money back (or don't have to pay). But I guess that never happens. !

I never got out of a place with such a big smile as in Eden and Hell:.))

How to find Hells Club:

Take the 2nd road of Pattaya, which is the parallel road to the Beach road. Between Soi 12 and 11 (left side) you see the back of Mike's Mall or store or something. If you see that look to your right and check for Diana Inns, which leads into Soi Diana Inn (or Soi 13). Walk along until you see an entertainment area to your left called L. K. Metro. Go in and the street makes a right curve. There you see the Hell Club to your left. ! Very easy to find. !

Have fun.

Cheers,

The AF

Petemcc
03-07-07, 20:43
I probably shouldn't post this here, but I'm prepared to take six of the best trousers down, Hell Club style!

Not directions of exactly where the Hell Club is, but at least where Soi LK Metro is in relation to everything else.

http://www.pattayabarguide.com/

Pete

Sorokonozka
03-07-07, 21:58
It is a little depressing to read that the scene in Pattaya seems to be getting worse and worse. As I am sure that readers of this forum have experience in other places as well, I was wondering which place will replace Pattaya as the destination of choice in future? Does the system of LT exist in other countries?

To me there is something extra special in being able to afford to wake up in the morning with a different lady in my bed on a regular basis. I have only read about this phenomenon in Thailand and I think the Philippines. Where else in the world is a lady available by the week as in Thailand?

Thanks for a great forum!

Terry Terrier
03-08-07, 00:31
That is so kind The AF. Superb directions. And the post in the other thread. You're a star!

Would you by any chance know if any of the lasses would allow Jimmy to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on their faces?

Red Alert
03-08-07, 02:08
I've been going to Pattaya for about 6 years now. Yes, it definitely has changed, but to me its still a great place to go party and monger. I would not scratch it off my list of destinations to have fun as a single or not so single male that wants to go wild for a couple of weeks. It is a growing town, but that was going to happen anyway. I still have some great GFE's and always leave regretting I did not talk or "bang" a cute bar girl I saw on soi 7-8 or at a gogo on Walking Street. There are still plenty of beautiful girls and just not enough time. In my case.

Point being. If you are planning a visit to the LOS make a stop in Pattaya. You won't regret it or ever forget the great experiences you have there. The only thing that sucks is the exchange rate for USD to baht. My first trip the it was 1USD to 41 baht.

RedAlert

Eggsalad
03-08-07, 08:56
I plan on being there between 3/31 and 4/15.
TMU

Too bad. I'll be there from 4/23 to 5/1.

Egg

Eggsalad
03-08-07, 09:05
I still have some great GFE's and always leave regretting I did not talk or "bang" a cute bar girl I saw on soi 7-8 or at a gogo on Walking Street.
Point being. If you are planning a visit to the LOS make a stop in Pattaya. You won't regret it or ever forget the great experiences you have there. The only thing that sucks is the exchange rate for USD to baht. My first trip the it was 1USD to 41 baht.

RedAlert

Red

I know what you mean. It is still a great destination. The things that got me hooked are getting harder to find. But I am finding new things to do. For example, my first couple of trips, I get a gogo girl every night. Now I don't need to. I really like just hanging out at the beer bars now and just chatting with the girls. If I don't find a cute one to take back, so be it. It is still a great town. And by the way, I love the food. Sometimes I feel like that in itself is enough for me to go.

Egg

Bruce_Lee
03-08-07, 09:43
I was surprised to hear about all these changes, the last time I was in Ptya was 3 years ago. It was great then. But now I think about all the girls that are rushing to leave, their mind being elsewhere all the time. Then I think of BA, how even the pro escorts in Argentina weren't always in such a rush to leave right away. For what TG want now compared to what I paid BA girls, I think BA is a better choice.

The AF
03-08-07, 11:29
That is so kind The AF. Superb directions. And the post in the other thread. You're a star!

Would you by any chance know if any of the lasses would allow Jimmy to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on their faces?

No idea, dude...!! I consider that kind be an "exclusive" sickness, which may have to be exclusively researched...!!! As far as a normal and awesome porn experience, those clubs are gorgeous..!!!

Take care,
The AF

Jelly37
03-08-07, 13:04
Petemcc, AF, thanks both for the directions. It was quite easy to find. And now I must concur with all previous descriptions. It was as advertised. I've now progressed from amateur-Pattaya, to the Big Leagues.

Shyppl
03-08-07, 17:18
Hi ,

I've never been to Thailand. I would like to hear anyone who went there how the 1st time is. Does it compare to any cities when you visit Pattaya area, don't want to waste time and money and not have fun. Put some post would make me a better traveler.

shyppl (would shy ppl go far at this city)

Phantomtiger2
03-08-07, 18:26
It is a little depressing to read that the scene in Pattaya seems to be getting worse and worse. As I am sure that readers of this forum have experience in other places as well, I was wondering which place will replace Pattaya as the destination of choice in future? Does the system of LT exist in other countries?Pattaya have changed some since my 1st days of travel there and agree it's not as good as the old days. But if you never been there before and have nothing to compare it with then its still a good mongering destination overall.

Most countries in Asia that cater to mongers have LT. Only difference is the price of LT for each place.

PT

Gladiator
03-08-07, 20:15
Went to the Hell Club today
[...]
In the end you pay 3600 bath to the Bar Lady, which is a lot for Thailand
[...]
I agree that is a lot for Thailand, especially for Pattaya where pussy is so cheap everywhere else.

ThaiLearner
03-09-07, 01:03
I agree that is a lot for Thailand, especially for Pattaya where pussy is so cheap everywhere else …Yes but you not what you are getting and you should have a very good time and if it is like edens then you pay after the fun and you not like you don't pay, thats if the are offering the same but you will have to ask the HELL Bar that .

FreeWolf66
03-09-07, 08:46
Hi ,

I've never been to Thailand. I would like to hear anyone who went there how the 1st time is. Does it compare to any cities when you visit Pattaya area, don't want to waste time and money and not have fun. Put some post would make me a better traveler.

shyppl (would shy ppl go far at this city)Pattaya is about half of what you pay in Bangkok and has become one of my favorite destinations.

FreeWolf66
03-09-07, 09:17
I have been to Pattay four times and have learned some each time. First it's half of what you pay in Bangkok. I first started on soi 8 from a hotel a friend recomended sunshine hotel. It was nice. I walked out and down soi 8 stopped at the first bar the Joy beer bar 200bt barfine and 500-1000 st (depends on the girl but 500bt is normal). Good times. Soi 3 the welcom inn very cheap ($20 us) girls out front bar fine 200bt and extras from 500-1000 st. Beach road (by the beach) freelancers; never paid more than 500bt for st. Mixed results. Most places in this area around soi 8 the bars were 200-250bt for barfine and the girls were 500-1000 st or double lt. I found soi 6 on my last trip goodfellas and thai rose (bar fine 200bt and girls st 500), plus drinks and rooms included in cost (cool). I'll be back in May.

FreeWolf66
03-09-07, 09:30
Hi ,

I've never been to Thailand. I would like to hear anyone who went there how the 1st time is. Does it compare to any cities when you visit Pattaya area, don't want to waste time and money and not have fun. Put some post would make me a better traveler.

shyppl (would shy ppl go far at this city)I love Thailand. I love Pattaya even more. Very cheap; a st can be as little as 500bt (now $15 us). Beautiful girls. Most act like short term girl friends and not the other money grubbin, clock watchers I've seen elswhere

FreeWolf66
03-09-07, 09:35
I would agree entirely. 20 years ago Pattaya was full of nice girls who were happy to be with you, and gave their all for you. Nowadays it is only money money money.

It all changed around 14 years ago. Pattaya grew and grew, girls arrived by the busload daily, and the personal experience went out of the window.

There are still a few gems around, but very hard to findI wasn't there 14 years ago, but last year I still found some gems. These girls can really grab your heart if your not carefull or experienced. Be firm about the price and after that enjoy. Go see a movie ( which was one girls request and I really enjoyed it). Never thought of the girl as my girlfriend but enjoyed the illusion. 500bt plus movie for the date.

Gladiator
03-09-07, 20:08
Yes but you not what you are getting and you should have a very good time and if it is like edens then you pay after the fun and you not like you don't pay, thats if the are offering the same but you will have to ask the HELL Bar that .

Can anyone decipher this?

FreeWolf66
03-09-07, 23:22
Can anyone decipher this?I think he means that Eden has a policy that if you aren't satisfied then you don't have to pay. I am sure you can do this only once and I have never heard of anyone being unsatisfied. I was very satisfied.

Evil Penivel
03-11-07, 01:15
can anyone decipher this?

he's saying that 3,600b is not expensive for the quality of the service at hell/eden and that if you are dissatisfied with the service, you don't have to pay, but to check with the management of the hell club to make sure it has the same policy as eden in bangkok. (my note -it does).

also, keep in mind that the 3,600b fee covers 90 minutes with two ladies and you can come as many times as you want or are able. if you're going to compare prices, make sure you're comparing apples to apples. almost everywhere else, you'll be quoted a price for a session that ends when you come and you're allowed only one shot. at the most, it will be 60 minutes and two shots if you pay extra. so while it is possible to have a two-lady session at a number of places in pattaya, it won't be anywhere near what you get at hell/eden in terms of time or quality of service. but if you think it is better value for money to pay 1,500b or 2,000b for a 15-minute, one-shot session that doesn't include anal or lesbian, that's up to you.

if you are interested in more exotic activities such as [CodeWord117] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117), make sure you ask the manager at hell (or eden, if you visit there) which ladies provide those services. not all ladies do - in fact, not many of them do.

some eden trivia - the record for most ejaculations in one 90-minute session is six times, the ladies tell me. that must have been an extremely horny - and well stored up - guy. the record for the most ladies in one session with one guy is 21. at the eden club in bkk, you can see a photo of that lucky bastard posing with the ladies. another guy had five consecutive 90-minute sessions at eden, each with two different ladies.

you can find a map of the location of the hell club here: map link (http://www.thehellclub.com/the%20hell%20club%20pattaya%20-%20location.html)

evil

Gladiator
03-11-07, 04:25
he's saying that 3,600b is not expensive for the quality of the service at hell/eden and that if you are dissatisfied with the service, you don't have to pay, but to check with the management of the hell club to make sure it has the same policy as eden in bangkok. (my note -it does).

also, keep in mind that the 3,600b fee covers 90 minutes with two ladies and you can come as many times as you want or are able. if you're going to compare prices, make sure you're comparing apples to apples. almost everywhere else, you'll be quoted a price for a session that ends when you come and you're allowed only one shot. at the most, it will be 60 minutes and two shots if you pay extra. so while it is possible to have a two-lady session at a number of places in pattaya, it won't be anywhere near what you get at hell/eden in terms of time or quality of service. but if you think it is better value for money to pay 1,500b or 2,000b for a 15-minute, one-shot session that doesn't include anal or lesbian, that's up to you.

if you are interested in more exotic activities such as [CodeWord117] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117), make sure you ask the manager at hell (or eden, if you visit there) which ladies provide those services. not all ladies do - in fact, not many of them do.

some eden trivia - the record for most ejaculations in one 90-minute session is six times, the ladies tell me. that must have been an extremely horny - and well stored up - guy. the record for the most ladies in one session with one guy is 21. at the eden club in bkk, you can see a photo of that lucky bastard posing with the ladies. another guy had five consecutive 90-minute sessions at eden, each with two different ladies.

you can find a map of the location of the hell club here: map link (http://www.thehellclub.com/the%20hell%20club%20pattaya%20-%20location.html)

evil

thanks, champollion, but i think i will stick to bar girls and freelancers as usual. i don't see any reason to pay 3,600 b in pattaya for 90 min.

FreeWolf66
03-11-07, 05:38
Thanks, Champollion, but I think I will stick to bar girls and freelancers as usual. I don't see any reason to pay 3,600 B in Pattaya for 90 min.Well don't discount the quality of service for the price at eden. I think you should tryit if only once. I did and was very satisfied.

Freewolf66

Hoppa
03-11-07, 20:35
Does anyone have experience with beauty salons which will do Brazilian waxing (=pubic hair removal)?

Furthermore, I like bald pussy, is this something TGF will subject themselves to?

BuleDaddy
03-12-07, 00:01
Does anyone have experience with beauty salons which will do Brazilian waxing (=pubic hair removal)?

Furthermore, I like bald pussy, is this something TGF will subject themselves to?

They mostly are cool with it, (shaving) expecially if you hang on to them for a few days. Most keep it closely cut so shaving is easy but if long yoy Gottah trim it with scissors first and use a high quality razor and take your time. Some like their muff, and even comb those pin-straigh hairs, although some Chinese, and Maylay blooded ones have curly fur below.

SidTheSexist
03-13-07, 04:44
Thanks, Champollion, but I think I will stick to bar girls and freelancers as usual. I don't see any reason to pay 3,600 B in Pattaya for 90 min.3600bht in Eden or Hell, is for 2 girls! Do the maths and that equates to 1800bht per girl. Do a little more maths and you will discover that 600bht bar fine + 1 or 2 lady drinks + 1000bht ST fee + 300bht ST room, for 1 girl and 20 minutes of poor FS with 1 pop, is a lot more expensive than Eden or Hell. Before you say you dont want 2 girls, I do believe that 1 girl is available for take out.
Simple.

Gladiator
03-13-07, 20:20
3600bht in Eden or Hell, is for 2 girls! Do the maths and that equates to 1800bht per girl. Do a little more maths and you will discover that 600bht bar fine + 1 or 2 lady drinks + 1000bht ST fee + 300bht ST room, for 1 girl and 20 minutes of poor FS with 1 pop, is a lot more expensive than Eden or Hell. Before you say you dont want 2 girls, I do believe that 1 girl is available for take out.
Simple.

If you are paying 1,000 bahts for 20 min in Pattaya they are taking you for a ride.

And I don’t need to pay for another room, I already have one to take my preys.

Look at it this way: fresh 18-19 yo sweetie from a beer-bar or soi 6: 500 bahts ST (2 hrs) plus 200-300 bahts BF, that is total 700-800 B for a fresh and young girl.

Rip-off Hell: 1,800 B for 90 min with an ageing and used-up hardcore.

If you like to pay well over twice the going rates and get sub-standard quality: enjoy Hell, it’s all for you!

Evil Penivel
03-14-07, 04:27
Look at it this way: fresh 18-19 yo sweetie from a beer-bar or soi 6: 500 bahts ST (2 hrs) plus 200-300 bahts BF, that is total 700-800 B for a fresh and young girl.


Your information is a bit out of date, Gladiator. For several months it's been forbidden for anyone under 20 to work in bars in LOS. A bar owner who employs girls under 20 is setting himself up for a very hefty payment of tea money at the least. The other girls and bar owners are quick to inform the authorities if there is a girl under 20 working in any bar. Considering the major raids on Soi 6 and elsewhere in Pattaya in the past few weeks, it's extremely doubtful you'll find any 18 or 19 year olds working bars nowadays.

Such girls must have been quite rare in any case. I spent the afternoon of Jan. 18 on Soi 6 and visited nine bars, albeit one very quickly. I also visited the "Belgian Embassy" the same day. The women I saw were for the most part closer to 30 than 19, but there were a few - a very few - who were younger and cuter, maybe 23 to 25, but definitely not 18, 19 or 20.

Of course, I could have visited the wrong bars. There are about 40 or 50 on Soi 6 and I sure didn't go into all of them. But the ladies mostly sit outside and it was a pretty glum bunch outside many of the bars. Or maybe I was there at the wrong time and regular customers had already snapped up all the cute girls. I know that happens a lot at Hell/Eden. And if a customer takes a girl long time for three or four days, then no one will be able to see her, either. Again, that happens a lot at Hell/Eden.

Just out of curiosity, which Soi 6 bar or beer bar are you talking about? That bar will be at the top of my list next time I visit Pattaya. I sure wasn't quoted those prices anywhere on Soi 6. It was 700B S/T (and S/T was defined as one shot, about 20 minutes as Sid said) plus 300B for the room. If you wanted to take a girl off-premises, the bar fine was 500-600B and a lot of the girls, considerably older than 18 or 19, wanted 1,000B. Again, S/T was defined as one shot, not a set amount of time. Maybe the girl would be gone from the bar for two hours (depending on the distance to your hotel), but she wouldn't be in bed with the customer anywhere near that long.

I did hear that if you spend at least 600B on drinks for yourself and the ladies at Soi 6 bars, you get a bit of a discount on the session price. Is that the part you were leaving out? But what I really don't understand is why any lady, 18 or 88, would accept 500B for a two-hour session when she could be getting 500B for a 20-minute in-house session.

As all the mongering world knows, multiple lady sessions are the specialty at both Hell and Eden. Normally that means two girls and one guy, but can be as many ladies as you want. Ninety minutes of unlimited sex, come as many times as you want or are able, with lesbian, toys and anal if you want. Neither place offers a one-lady 90 minute session. That makes me wonder when the last time was that you were actually in Hell or Eden. I don't know the age of the youngest lady at Hell because I mainly stuck with ladies who I knew from Eden when I was there in January.

I have had sessions with a 20-year-old lady at Eden BKK, another with a 22-year-old and plenty of sessions with Eden ladies under 25. It's almost impossible to discuss physical appearance because preferences are so individual and subjective, but there's a rasnge of ages and looks at Hell and Eden, certainly not worse than Soi 6 bars. Actually, I prefer ladies around 30 and my two Eden favorites, Bambi and Thumper, were about that age. They certainly weren't hardcore or sub-standard quality. In fact, they were two of the best P4P providers I've ever encountered. You can read about it here: Evil and the Angels of Eden (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=503329&postcount=1290). I don't want to tax either your time or your brains cells (the latter more than the former), so just skip to the last two or three paragraphs. I can't say for sure, but I doubt very much I'd have that kind of experience with Soi 6 bar girls.

But again, I may be wrong. Best way to put me on the right track would be to name the Soi 6 or beer bar where 18-year-old girls do two hour S/T for 500B.

Evil

LittleBigMan
03-14-07, 05:51
P.V.

I agree with 99.5 of your report. Just yesterday Soi 6, Pattaya, Bar High Point, ST, 300 for the bar, went upstairs to shower and to room, 500 baht for the girl, left 20 baht for the room cleanup and gave the girl another 100 baht tip for great blowjob and tit rub on LBM.

But did not see any in my opinion 18,19 year old girls!

FreeWolf66
03-14-07, 06:22
P.V.

I agree with 99.5 of your report. Just yesterday Soi 6, Pattaya, Bar High Point, ST, 300 for the bar, went upstairs to shower and to room, 500 baht for the girl, left 20 baht for the room cleanup and gave the girl another 100 baht tip for great blowjob and tit rub on LBM.

But did not see any in my opinion 18,19 year old girls!I was just in Pattaya last october. Soi six Thai rose and goodfellas (be careful they have katoys and exkatoys). Around 200bt for the room and 500bt for the girls. No room charges extra.

Freewolf66

SidTheSexist
03-14-07, 06:33
Im not interested in this debate. I can, at times, be a very stingy monger but I also like to pay big bucks too (read beijing thread). However, I would simply like to clarify that my previous post was comparing Eden/Hell with walking street gogo bars, not soi 6 brothels.
sid

FreeWolf66
03-14-07, 06:34
Evil Penivel,

I like Thai rose and goodfellas on soi 6. Don't know about age and never ask. I just look at whats hot and whats not. Didn't pay over 250bt for bar fine and only 500bt for st (I don't ask for time, I asume it's till I finish) and haven't been disappointed. Whatch out for katoys and exkatoys. The mamasan was very helpful.

Freewolf66

FreeWolf66
03-14-07, 06:40
Im not interested in this debate. I can, at times, be a very stingy monger but I also like to pay big bucks too (read beijing thread). However, I would simply like to clarify that my previous post was comparing Eden/Hell with walking street gogo bars, not soi 6 brothels.

SidAs far as hell; haven't tried it. Eden was great. About 75 us for two girls including barfine. It's good to try once. Just to say you tried it. With all the freelancers at 500bt st, and the bar girls 500 bt st plus 200-250 barfine it is expensive. I like soi8. A shitload of bars. The closer you get to walking street the higher the price. The closer you get to high season the higher the price. I met a lot of beach road freelancers and the quality can be high (maybe not 10's but the effort is worth it.

Freewolf66

MeatMan
03-14-07, 16:39
Does anyone have experience with beauty salons which will do Brazilian waxing (=pubic hair removal)?

Furthermore, I like bald pussy, is this something TGF will subject themselves to?

Do eagles take buses when they're wings are tired?....holy friggin hell!:rolleyes: