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Escort King
04-12-06, 20:50
That was a great report Slumlord - how would you rate the girls in each of the areas you mentioned... are there 7-9s or decent but realistaclly 4-6s...

How hard would it be to gran anything there without speaking spanish?
What percentage would pass the Mansion not crusty rule?

Ricker
04-12-06, 20:52
Wow Slumloard ... that's amazing that your Colombian girlfriend goes for that ... sitting in another room while you're with another chica ... good for you amigo.

My Colombiana girlfriend actually just told me for my birthday coming up, she wants to find 3 of the hottest chicas she can to ravage me ... wants me to feel like "el rey" (the king).

Nice report.

Ricker
04-12-06, 20:55
Medellin has some pretty nice street chicas ... lots of them would pass the Mansion non-skank rule.

Surfer
04-13-06, 05:16
can't post pictures here to show the quality because some brainiac would surely print them out then walk around the zona asking where to find them. You gotta sift through a fair bit of chaff but the kernels ARE there and they are WAY more likely to offer BBBJ, GFE etc than the 142,000 peso prima donnas at Loutron.

Elberto
04-13-06, 05:35
There were also plenty of military presence, way more than the past couple weeks, and the driver said they were out in force because Holy Week was coming up.Man, that made me laugh.

Escort King
04-13-06, 15:31
can't post pictures here to show the quality because some brainiac would surely print them out then walk around the zona asking where to find them. You gotta sift through a fair bit of chaff but the kernels ARE there and they are WAY more likely to offer BBBJ, GFE etc than the 142,000 peso prima donnas at Loutron.

wow.. I have been on a few other monger sites that have a lot of pics etc. and have yet to see people walking around the DR with print outs of girls.....
it would have been easier to say you did not bring a camera....

California Guy
04-13-06, 17:07
You are my hero! Haha great story...love it when people post such good experiences :) Hopefully I will find the same when I visit.

Take care,
Cali

P.S. I asked someone else but they didn't know, do I need a visa to visit Columbia or this only for Brazil?

Lima Busy
04-13-06, 18:44
I asked someone else but they didn't know, do I need a visa to visit Columbia or this only for Brazil?
There is no visa needed to go to Maryland unless you are not a American citizen!

Escort King
04-13-06, 19:06
There is no visa needed to go to Maryland unless you are not a American citizen!

The state Maryland?

Slumlord
04-13-06, 21:18
Thanks for nice comments, guys.

Escort King:

The girls in all three areas run the gamut from 0 to 9.5. There are some old hags and for the life of me I don’t know how they earn a living. And there are some real gems. Some of these gems like the flexibility of working (or not working) whenever they want. With a little polish some of these girls could work at the high-end places. As I like to say – she may be trailer-trash to you, but she’s trailer-treasure to me.

The street girls speak no English (at least I haven’t come across one that does), so having no Spanish presents a challenge, but you’ll still be able to score. Assuming you are by yourself, my suggestion would be to hook up with a taxi driver, explain to him what you want and how much you’re willing to pay and then call girls over and let him do the talking while you are watching the interaction. Write down what you’re willing to pay and for how long. If you want all night, make sure they understand that. I had no problem getting girls to stay all night in the past, but some can’t as they need to be home by a certain hour. I’ve never had one say they could stay all night then do a runner at 3am.

I don’t know what the “crusty rule” is at the Mansion, so I won’t speculate on that. I can tell you that some look like obvious hookers and some don’t. As far as personal hygiene, which is very important to me, I find that the street girls I’ve picked up are very well-maintained in that department. As a rule, Colombian women like to look and smell good, no matter what their social status.

I also have to walk these girls past my building’s security and neighbors, so I do concern myself with the girls’ outward appearance.

Ricker:

I’ve found most Colombianas are insanely jealous – but I found one who really doesn’t seem to care, so long as she has the title “novia”. She also gets along well with the other girls while we’re having drinks in the getting to know you phase.

And something happened this past Saturday that was beyond surreal. We had just gotten back to the apartment and were sitting around drinking, when my girl asked for aspirin because she had a toothache. Alexandria said something to my girl that I thought I understood, but said there’s no way she just said that. Here’s what happened:

Alexandria has a six-month old baby that she’s nursing – hence the fabulous rack. She said that a sure cure for a toothache was to squeeze mother’s milk into the ear canal. So my girl laid down on the couch, Alex took off her top and started squeezing milk into my girl’s ear. After a minute, my girl went to the bathroom to clean up and I had the biggest boner I’ve had in years. I was as shocked as I was aroused.

So it’s not like these girls have any animosity towards each other – anyone I’ve brought back has always fit in well – although the milk thing was a first, at least for me!

Make sure you take your girlfriend up on her offer – sounds like you’re going to have a birthday to remember!

Surfer:

I pretty much stick to the street girls for their great attitudes. Sure, there’s gonna be some duds, but I’ve been disappointed at the high-end places too.

I know guys often mention they are concerned with the drug use by street girls. Of course, many do use drugs – but plenty of them don’t do anything. And I’ve seen plenty of drug use in La Isla (I know it’s closed now) and Face Dos and LDV in CTG. It’s part of that culture. I always have plenty of “party favors” back at my place and MOST girls I bring back do not indulge, even though I make it available and it’s free. Most are happy with cheap rum and cigarettes.

What Surfer said about posting pictures unfortunately is true. I suspect the reason he came across harsh (at least to Escort King) is because he’s been burned by someone showing pictures taken off the internet to some girl and then it got back to him. I know because I’ve been burned that way before myself. Then you have to explain to an irate girl why her picture is on the internet. It only takes one idiot - who may not even have bad intentions – to cause a real problem. A lot of these girls haven’t come to terms with what they really do for a living and to see their photo on the internet on a P4P website is a rude-awakening.

California Guy:

Assuming from your handle you are American, you do not need a visa to enter Colombia. Colombian Immigration will stamp your passport saying you can stay for 60 days – although one or two of my stamps says 50 days. Either way, no visa is needed.

Lima Busy
04-13-06, 21:42
The state Maryland?
Correct, I do not think there is a country called Maryland and I know for S**T Sure there is no country spelt COLUMBIA! I do not live in ColOmbia only next door in Peru, but I still find it offensive. You might also want to check your ticket before you come or you may find yourself vacationing in Haverstraw!
LB

California Guy
04-14-06, 20:46
Correct, I do not think there is a country called Maryland and I know for S**T Sure there is no country spelt COLUMBIA! I do not live in ColOmbia only next door in Peru, but I still find it offensive. You might also want to check your ticket before you come or you may find yourself vacationing in Haverstraw!
LB

These are the type of people the WSG forum can do without. Argue, offend people, etc.... I mean a guy like this goes off because I misspelled a place he doesn't live in, lol that is classic!

Escort King
04-14-06, 20:55
Correct, I do not think there is a country called Maryland and I know for S**T Sure there is no country spelt COLUMBIA! I do not live in ColOmbia only next door in Peru, but I still find it offensive. You might also want to check your ticket before you come or you may find yourself vacationing in Haverstraw!
LB

Okay... old habit from university.... your fingers spell words a certain way

Admin
04-15-06, 16:02
Greetings everyone,

In recognition of his many great contributions to the Forum, I have given Lost In Paradise his own thread titled "Lost In Paradise in Colombia".

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2430

Those of you who wish to join him in the discussions in his new thread are welcome to do so.

Thanks,

Jackson

Sean EZ
04-17-06, 05:56
I read in one of the posts May 26-29 is the election week and no alcohol will be served, clubs will be closed, and military presense heavy. Is this true or not. Could somebody please cofirm. Thanks.

Timeout
04-17-06, 06:02
The date of election is on 28 May.

You should avoid between 26 and 30.

Cachorro
04-17-06, 13:08
I read in one of the posts May 26-29 is the election week and no alcohol will be served, clubs will be closed, and military presense heavy. Is this true or not. Could somebody please cofirm. Thanks.
Yes, that's correct.

Sean EZ
04-19-06, 05:13
oh that sucks. Any increased theat or does it get quiet right after the elections? I haven't heard any issues last year in Medellin around the same time of the year please correct me if I am wrong.

Cachorro
04-19-06, 13:40
These are elections for the president and for parliament. Once every four years. If you are keen, do a little research and find out what happened in 2002. Happy to say things have got better since then.

Escort King
04-19-06, 15:58
There are many countries that close access to alcohol during election times.... there are establishments that cannot open etc.... hey it happens during certain holidays too... In the Dominican for Easter Sunday there is a ban on music or loud noise.....

Jayf1970
04-22-06, 16:37
I am planning to visit Colombia next week (first week of May). You guys think there might be any concerns related to the elections?

Australiano Greg
04-22-06, 16:43
Yes, which party will win !!

Aussie Greg





I am planning to visit Colombia next week (first week of May). You guys think there might be any concerns related to the elections?

Escort King
04-22-06, 17:56
I have a few friends who postponed their trip because of the elections - mainly because things get closed etc... or that was what they had heard...

Sean EZ
04-22-06, 18:57
"President Uribe is seeking reelection in May 2006, with a second round (if needed) in June 2006."

Supposedly bars and clubs will be closed between May 26-29 and so we plan to monitor the situation and go in June unless there is a second round and or violence in which case we will postpone.

Also, according to the embassy's website "U.S. citizens in Colombia are reminded that May 27th is the anniversary of the founding of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) ... The FARC has historically conducted terrorist attacks, especially bombings against civilian and public security targets, around the date of this anniversary." I am not quoting this to induce paranoia, just to be aware of what's happening in May.

Cachorro, we could not find anything on the events of 2002 elections. We expect big cities like Medellin, Bogota, Cartagena to be safe but we are no experts. If anyone has relevant information please post; your insight is appreciated.

I feel after all this politics talk I owe this board a lengthy report on this upcoming trip :)

Escort King
04-23-06, 02:37
yeah add the FARC anniversary and the usual battles between rival criminals and there is always a little risk... but that does not keep me from eating in Little Italy in NYC

Scooby1
04-23-06, 04:04
Im heading out to Medellin Monday April 24th from LAX at 12:15am on Copa Air. Anyone heading there then pm me.

Tom 33
04-23-06, 13:11
Hope you live in a closet and stay there. The world is a bad place. Did you hear about the guy who was stabbed to death in his home in Greenwich, Conn.? Damn, I sure wouldn't want to go to Connecticut.

Thespy
04-23-06, 16:06
I too have tickets to Medellin for May 27, so I am glad to get this info, I will have to move my first trip to mabe July.

Thespy
04-23-06, 16:10
I too have tickets to Medellin at the end of May. After reading the post about the election I will have to change my tickets to July. Thanks for the info and keep me posted.

Scooby1
04-25-06, 00:03
Hey all you guys, (sitting at home twiddleing your thumbs reading these threads wishing you were here), from The Mansion in beautiful downtown Medellin Colombia. Got here today and Greg had a georgeous 20yr old blond stunner with the most perfectly formed natural big boobs I have evre had the pleasure to put in my mouth, waiting for me at the airport.

I now have had my international mongering cherry broken, by lovely Jennifer. Im on my way out the door Greg is taking me to Loutrons yippie Ki yea!!! But wanted to tell all of you don't come you may never leave. hehehe.

Ill attempt to return and give you a good report!!

Peace & Love from the City of Eternal Spring

SCOOBY

Scooby1
04-25-06, 00:08
Oh by the way before I forget I paid Jennifer 100,000 so my fears of 300 & 400.000 was unfounded

Escort King
04-25-06, 02:11
way to go scooby... now I have a name to ask to pick me up at the airport....

BeersTerry
04-25-06, 02:23
Ya Scooby, post a picture too.

Scooby1
04-25-06, 23:44
I did not bring my camera softwear to be able to post the pics on the mansion pc which i where Im at I do not have a note book.

Escort King
04-26-06, 01:00
We can wait.... if you keep some notes the reports can be mixed with pics and make great reading.

Scooby1
04-26-06, 17:56
Getting There Day 1

My trip started when the the Horizon Air flight was 1/2hr late and 3 people overbooked, they were looking for people to bump till the next day. I told the ticket dude I'd be happy to bump if they would pay for my flight all the way to Medellin, They wern't going for it, Hey at least I tried. I thought oh crap, I sure hope my whole trip isn't like this! Anyways the pilot made up time and we got to LAX early waited the 4 hr layover, then found out the plane was going to be an hour late. Not good, but on the upside when we did board the plane a 737G, which was packed to the gills, yet to my amazement and everyone elses envy, I had the only seat that had only me in the entire row (too cool huh). About 10 min into the flight some dude comes up gruffly says "IM SITTING HERE "and procceded to plant his ass in MY row. Now, this is important, if the bozo had said to me "you know were really packed and uncomfortable, would it be ok if I sat here" I would of said "No problem", but because of his shitty demanding ways I thought NO WAY JOSE, so I fienged a coughing spell and said weakly, Im very sorry Im alergic to your cheap after shave could you please move back to your assigned seat. He got pissed and said something unrepeatable till I wispered to him "how would you like your testicles yanked off' well that did it, he split and I had a whole row to my self.

We landed in Panama right on time, so that was real good. Someone on here told me it was an Aerorepublico Jet that flew you from Panama to Medellin, even though the people at COPA had told me it would be a Copa plane, well he was right.

Got through the airport and customs real easy in about 10 minutes, walked out front and what do see? A georgeous buxom blonde holding a sign with my name on it, now since I had only been on a plane one other time in my life, and that had been in the 70's so I was bit overly stimulated anyway. I said a quiet "thank you Lina & Greg". ( P. S. You HAVE to request a girl to pick you up otherwise you'll have some ugly dude).

Well any way we made it down the mountain alive, even though I was a tad bit worried at times, but not to much. You see when you've ridden a motorcycle through traffic filled Los Angeles streets & highways at rush hour, it prepares you for anything. Anyway, I had a nice time hugging & kissing Jenifer who had the most perfectly formed pair of breasts that I have ever had the pleasure to grace my lips with.(hint, guess what I was doing hehehehe).

We get to the Mansion alive, & I get to finially meet Lina & Greg VERY COOL PEOPLE they show me to my room, don't ever get room 9 its a dungen, but more on that later. I register, pay my room payment (you have to pay your room bill up front) I go back and had a nice session with Jennifer. It was a bit disapointing no kissing, which pissed me off, cjb Ive had better, and fairly tight but nothing to write home about, no daty. The only thing that was memorable was playing with and watching those bountiful beauties bounce while she rode me. YEE HAW. Gave her 100,000cop and said thank you & bye.

Escort King
04-26-06, 18:15
Did you fall asleep after all that or venture out to see what else was available?

Sun Devil
04-26-06, 18:22
Are you saying that they require their guests to pay before sleeping a wink at their establishment? If so, do they require that to be in cash (US $ or Colombian peso) or do they accept credit card?

Scooby1
04-26-06, 23:38
Did you fall asleep after all that or venture out to see what else was available?

Hell no I went out but more a little later

Hoof Hunter
04-26-06, 23:45
Just a quick warning to be mindful of the "new" company you're keeping.

http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news?p=Eric+Jonathan+Gatle+medellin&c=&fr=&c=news_photos

Police officers escort US citizen Eric Jonathan Gatle to the police station in Medellin, Colombia, Friday, April 21, 2006. Gatle is accused of sexual abuse of children and is also wanted by authorities in the United States for child molestation charges. Colombian authorities said Gatle will be extradited to the United States and handed over to the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Scooby1
04-26-06, 23:57
Are you saying that they require their guests to pay before sleeping a wink at their establishment? If so, do they require that to be in cash (US $ or Colombian peso) or do they accept credit card?

Yes I had to pay for the room up front, I just asked Aussie Greg whats policy if a client decides to change accomidations midstay. Greg says and this is a quote "Our policy has been to give refunds but in the future there may be a policy change."

Second Question They will take either USD or COP & yes they take credit cards Visa & Master Charge only!! NOT American Express

Lima Busy
04-27-06, 01:00
Just a quick warning to be mindful of the "new" company you're keeping.

http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news?p=Eric+Jonathan+Gatle+medellin&c=&fr=&c=news_photos

Police officers escort US citizen Eric Jonathan Gatle to the police station in Medellin, Colombia, Friday, April 21, 2006. Gatle is accused of sexual abuse of children and is also wanted by authorities in the United States for child molestation charges. Colombian authorities said Gatle will be extradited to the United States and handed over to the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
Roll call for ISG members not currently in the hoosegaw!
LB with handraised emoticon inserted here.

LB

BeersTerry
04-27-06, 02:48
I guess when your business is a success, you get to make the rules.

Escort King
04-27-06, 15:26
Glad they got this guy... don't tell me he was an ISG member!

Q Bert
04-27-06, 23:55
Gonna be around tomorrow night (4/28)? I wrote a lengthy (too lengthy IMHO) in the Mansion thread but I'll be off my thumbs and on a plane soon! By the way, could you send the blonde to come get me at the AP! ;-)

Medellin Executive
04-28-06, 01:15
I thought this was the Medellin thread not Aussie Greg's personal/private ***** house thread. For those of you posting his rave reviews, he has his own site. Some of us have not had such great experiences there and are tired of hearing that someone caught him on one of his good days. I have not spent my time bashing his establishment and in fairness do not wish to constantly hear about it on a thread that is supposed to inform us on whats going on in Medellin. I, like all of you have paid to be part of this site for important info that is shared among us NOT FOR AN INFOMERCIAL on how to screw up a good thing like Medellin.

Hi The Executive,

Aussie Greg does have his own thread here on the ISG, and forum members are welcoe to post their experiences at his Manison there, but you are correct that as a general practice these Mansion reports should not be posted here in the general Medellin thread.

Thanks,

Jackson

Escort King
04-28-06, 03:22
Gonna be around tomorrow night (4/28)? I wrote a lengthy (too lengthy IMHO) in the Mansion thread but I'll be off my thumbs and on a plane soon! By the way, could you send the blonde to come get me at the AP! ;-)
I think you better call the mansion or it won't happen

Q Bert
04-28-06, 08:10
Thanks EK. I emailed them and hopefully it'll happen.


I think you better call the mansion or it won't happen

Escort King
04-28-06, 16:31
I thought this was the Medellin thread not Aussie Greg's personal/private ***** house thread. For those of you posting his rave reviews, he has his own site. Some of us have not had such great experiences there and are tired of hearing that someone caught him on one of his good days. I have not spent my time bashing his establishment and in fairness do not wish to constantly hear about it on a thread that is supposed to inform us on whats going on in Medellin. I, like all of you have paid to be part of this site for important info that is shared among us NOT FOR AN INFOMERCIAL on how to screw up a good thing like Medellin.

Hi The Executive,

Aussie Greg does have his own thread here on the ISG, and forum members are welcoe to post their experiences at his Manison there, but you are correct that as a general practice these Mansion reports should not be posted here in the general Medellin thread.

Thanks,

Jackson


You have posted 3 times.... got to love newbies with their demands....

Doc Bill
04-30-06, 19:45
I've read the cheat sheets and reports, and there are a number of taxi drivers/guides listed. Is there one or two who stands out as the best? I'd really appreciate some feedback on this guys. And, for those who have gone before me, should I even bother with one (it's my first time in MDE), or just go exploring on my own and flag a cab when I need one? Safety concerns?

BTW, I'll be there from May 8-20, if anyone else is there at that time and would like to hook up.

Thanks.

Medellin Executive
04-30-06, 20:31
You have posted 3 times.... got to love newbies with their demands....As a senior member you should be one of the people that post reports on how things are OBJECTIVLY. I apologize if I offended you by stating a clear cut fact. If you read the post in a decent state of sobriety you will see that it is not a demand, and at at no time did I attack you directly nor did I make smart ass remarks such as newbie. I am new to the site but have visited and lived in Colombia for over 10 years. This entitles me to an opinion as I have seen with my own eyes the changes that are definetly not for our benefit that are occuring due to certain people. I have also seen the mistreatment of colombians that has occured due to certain etablishments. Mongering is a privilege not a right, respect yourself and others.

However if you wish to continue a personal attack feel free to private message me so that we can keep this board clear for its intended use.

Anytime anyplace.

Doc Bill
05-01-06, 00:12
Could someone please tell me how I can contact him? Thanks.

Crypton
05-01-06, 00:29
Could someone please tell me how I can contact him? Thanks.

I think you have to go through Greg for both mansions. Robert hardly ever checks his e-mail or uses the computer.

Lima Busy
05-01-06, 01:12
You have posted 3 times.... got to love newbies with their demands....
Looks like the pot is calling the kettle black!

Tom 33
05-01-06, 02:04
Be careful hailing taxis from the street especially if you are alone and after 9:00 pm or so at night. You can always call one at 444-0000. They will give you the number of the cab sent for you.

Escort King
05-01-06, 02:40
Looks like the pot is calling the kettle black!

I am a newbie about Colombia no question.... but why start saying what can and cannot be posted... people like Greg's establishment and it spills over to the town thread it is located in does not seems to be out of line.... the guy also contributes plenty of pics and intel about the town so to chop at it after 3 or 4 posts seems a bit demanding

Sky Dog
05-01-06, 15:49
Doc Bill,

Your in luck, becuase I am having morning coffee with Robert, now! I'm here for a few more days.

His cell is 300 322 02 23

or email him at info@medellinapartments.com

Suerte,

Sky Dog

Medellin Executive
05-02-06, 02:52
I am a newbie about Colombia no question.... but why start saying what can and cannot be posted... people like Greg's establishment and it spills over to the town thread it is located in does not seems to be out of line.... the guy also contributes plenty of pics and intel about the town so to chop at it after 3 or 4 posts seems a bit demandingI agree with you he does contribute a lot of info but If you read it it seems to always lead back to his establishment and I will also say that we are not all happy paying 140-200k for the same girls that were getting paid 30k-50k less than 6months ago.These girls have gotten a taste of gringo money from the mansion. It seems that his biggest CONTRIBUTION is to his own financial gains and not the benefit of those of us who have paid to be on an objective and informative board.

Scooby1
05-02-06, 15:11
Not Scooby again,

Hailing taxis can be dangerous. I got a taxi outside Mangos to go somewhere. As we did not recognize where we were going, we kept asking the fucker if he knew where he was going. He finally admitted he did'nt. After some conversation, we told him to go back to Mangos as we were going to get another cab who knew where to go. The fucker demanded some money. We were'nt gonna pay for a night time tour of Medellin, so he stopped the cab in the middle of the highway and told us to get out. After some debate, we did. Here we were at 2:00 am in the middle of a highway god knows where. Ya we were fuckin' nervous as this is the kind of shit that gets you killed.

So, make sure the driver knows how to get to where you want to go. Just don't assume like we made the mistake of.

Escort King
05-03-06, 01:19
Not Scooby again,

Hailing taxis can be dangerous. I got a taxi outside Mangos to go somewhere. As we did not recognize where we were going, we kept asking the fucker if he knew where he was going. He finally admitted he did'nt. After some conversation, we told him to go back to Mangos as we were going to get another cab who knew where to go. The fucker demanded some money. We were'nt gonna pay for a night time tour of Medellin, so he stopped the cab in the middle of the highway and told us to get out. After some debate, we did. Here we were at 2:00 am in the middle of a highway god knows where. Ya we were fuckin' nervous as this is the kind of shit that gets you killed.

So, make sure the driver knows how to get to where you want to go. Just don't assume like we made the mistake of.

You made it back to tell the tale so you came out ahead... though how long did it take to get back? another report?????

Doc Bill
05-03-06, 08:28
Yeah, Scooby, tell us the rest of the story. And what's the moral of the story? Never to pick up cabs on the street? Guys? Am I safe walking around alone? Thanks!

Tom 33
05-03-06, 11:37
Slow down, Doc. You will be fine. For everyone, I would suggest not going anywhere at night without someone who knows the city. I have ridden with cabbies who couldn't find Centro. Do not get into an argument with a cabbie. Try to work with him. A few thousand pesos extra is not worth your life.

You will be safe on the streets alone in Poblado and in the area around the western trunk of the Metro. There are other small pockets of safety(e.g. Avenida Junin in Centro). If you don't know an area is safe, stay the fuck out.

BeersTerry
05-03-06, 15:20
Hey, it was me posting under Scooby's name as I had forgotten mine and Scooby had left his account open. For the Einstein who thought it might have been Greg or whomever else, the good spelling should have been a dead giveaway (sorry Greg).

Hi Doc,

The cab we took was the next in line at Mangos. We did ask him about Fase Dos and we did try to work it out when it was obvious he did'nt know where he was going. It was just one of those things.

Poblado is as safe as it gets. In fact, one of the guys here thinks that it is safer than Rio. That said, Poblado is the only area one would wander around at night. The only other area I have been wandering in is centro. Medellin Bob said that it was o.k., but just don't do it at night.

There are plenty of guys hanging out so that you don't need to go out alone, especially for street girls. In fact, they recommend that you go out for street girls (if that is your thing), you should do it in a group of at least 2 and better if 3.

Escort King
05-03-06, 20:48
Slow down, Doc. You will be fine. For everyone, I would suggest not going anywhere at night without someone who knows the city. I have ridden with cabbies who couldn't find Centro. Do not get into an argument with a cabbie. Try to work with him. A few thousand pesos extra is not worth your life.

You will be safe on the streets alone in Poblado and in the area around the western trunk of the Metro. There are other small pockets of safety(e.g. Avenida Junin in Centro). If you don't know an area is safe, stay the fuck out.

Always be careful... any traveller should have that as a motto regardless of where you are going

Scooby1
05-03-06, 21:04
I am in Medellin right now and this is what I have been getting as an exchange rate.

The Bank down the hill from the Mansion has an ATM rate of 2138pesos to the dollar. 300,000cop cost me 128.00usd. It is the same with the green ATM´s in the Ovido Mall.

The cambio in the Oviedo Mall was 2240cop to $1.00usd. Since I brought very little cash with me Ive been using the ATMs.

If anyone knows of an Atm that gives a better rate please inform me.

I forgot to log out and the last 2 posts were not by me. One of the other mongers here at the Mansion went on and used my login instead of closing mine down and logging in under their own.

I did not get kicked out of a cab. I have had nothing but good luck with the taxi drivers. I have caught them on the street the whole time I was away from the Mansion, although, I usually had a girl with me or someone who spoke spanish.

You are worring about silly stuff if you are that perinoid about catching a cab on the street you can rent a cell phone from the Mansion for $4.00usd per day & they provide you with the business card of a trustworthy cab company and you can just call and have them pick you up.

You should be worrying about how your going to explain walking funny from being fucked so much when you get home. hehehe

Better yet, stay away from Medellin, its terrible here, nothing to see, go somewhere else & leave it all for me, i'll make the sacrifice for everyone. hehehehe(evil laugh)

Scooby

Escort King
05-03-06, 21:55
So the Oviedo Mall ATM is the winner and will add up over time... pay for your airport taxi in a couple of days....

Tom 33
05-04-06, 14:09
Let me see. My novia, who was born and raised in Medellin, will not hail a taxi from the street after a certain time in certain areas. Guess she doesn't know her city.

Another friend who lives in MDE and owns a house near Parque Lleras was abducted and robbed by a taxi driver coming in from the Rio Negro Airport in January of this year.

Don't worry about silly stuff.

ATMs - one day in CTG I did a test and drew from three different bank ATMs on the same day near the same time. I got the exact same exchange rate. I would guess that those three banks, at least, used the official rate less the same vig. They also pass a small charge per transaction back to your home bank. That, of course, is why the per transaction limit tends to be smaller. And that is why your home bank tends to charge you for transactions from ATMs other than their own.

I got 2370 at Granahorrar on Tuesday.

Australiano Greg
05-04-06, 14:20
I thibnk my spelling is good !!! after all, I left sckool at the age of 14.

The Aossie

Scooby1
05-04-06, 15:24
Greg

I wnet to da Evelen skool of sped reding now I red no worser den I red be4 they jus nevr taut me how to spel

BeersTerry
05-04-06, 16:06
According to Medellin Bob,

1. There are many drivers that came into the city, got themselves a job driving taxi that don't know shit. These guys are legitimately ingnorant.

2. There are taxi drivers that pretend to not know where they are going in order to drive up the fare.

I was in a taxi just yesterday that demanded more money that was showing on the meter as the meter was broken...good try. Others try to not turn on the meter and jack the price that way.

BeersTerry
05-04-06, 16:23
Forgot to mention, two places that have a bad reputation for cab drivers that rip you off. Mangos and La Isla.

Also, that a few of the other guys here have had the same experience with cab drivers that have no idea of where they are going

Escort King
05-04-06, 18:49
Let me see. My novia, who was born and raised in Medellin, will not hail a taxi from the street after a certain time in certain areas. Guess she doesn't know her city.

Another friend who lives in MDE and owns a house near Parque Lleras was abducted and robbed by a taxi driver coming in from the Rio Negro Airport in January of this year.

Don't worry about silly stuff.

ATMs - one day in CTG I did a test and drew from three different bank ATMs on the same day near the same time. I got the exact same exchange rate. I would guess that those three banks, at least, used the official rate less the same vig. They also pass a small charge per transaction back to your home bank. That, of course, is why the per transaction limit tends to be smaller. And that is why your home bank tends to charge you for transactions from ATMs other than their own.

I got 2370 at Granahorrar on Tuesday.


So you think it wise to be careful about cabs... use the ones that people know....
There are some places you just don't want to go regardless of numbers.

Banks are pretty close in conversion numbers.... though there may be that one that is a bit better.

I agree with you.

Timeout
05-06-06, 04:51
You guys mean if I arrive in el centro at 8 pm, I shouldn't hail a cap to go San Diego. right? What can I do on my first day of arrival. LOL.

BeersTerry
05-07-06, 00:21
If you arrive in el centro at 8 pm, I wish you luck.

Escort King
05-07-06, 02:50
If you arrive in el centro at 8 pm, I wish you luck.

Is that a real comment of concern?

Tom 33
05-07-06, 02:57
If you don't know Centro, don't go there after dark. About the only safe area after dark is Avenida Junin between Parque Bolivar and Exito. And don't wander too far away from Junin.

Timeout
05-07-06, 03:22
Thanks guys,

I decided to stay in Sheraton on my first day of arrival. Then, I'll look for the cheaper place to stay. I'll be there for a month from May 15 to Jun 16.. :-)

Scooby1
05-07-06, 08:07
Hey guys
Check this out Berrystrry got pissed at me told a bunch of lies and got me kicked out of the mansion. The only other people I know like that like verry liyyle girls so steer of him.

Scooby

Scooby1
05-07-06, 08:09
He got me kicked out of the Mansion because he got pissed when I used the sharred bathroom he had He's a fuckin asshole. Od steer clear of him if you can.

Scoony

Scooby1
05-07-06, 08:11
The stupid prick used my logon without my permission

Escort King
05-07-06, 14:54
Not too cool.... what's the deal Beer?

Superboy1
05-07-06, 15:01
He got you kick out the Mansion! What the hell happean? It must of been bad for Assie to kick you out.

Love to know what the story is.


He got me kicked out of the Mansion because he got pissed when I used the sharred bathroom he had He's a fuckin asshole. Od steer clear of him if you can.

Scoony

Lima Busy
05-07-06, 17:18
The stupid prick used my logon without my permission
And this has what to do with Medellin? I suggest you take your toilet war over to the Mansion where it belongs.
LB

Scooby1
05-07-06, 19:56
We got into an argument that progressed into a shoving match so Greg said I had to go to the Castillo or they would find me other accomidations. Now I want to make it clear that Greg and Robert have been great and the staff at the Mansion and Castillo have gone out of their way to be accomidating. They need to keep the peace & I lost the coin toss.

Quite a bit of alcohol was involved so I did not think it was any big deal but Berry bitched enough that they decided I should move.

Lima Busy
05-07-06, 22:26
Lima are you an idiot or do you just enjoy being a prick.
Scrappy,
Definetly the latter! I only asked you to move the conversation, BUTT NOOO! You have issues with your manhood and must resort to crying and name calling.
Just so you have no question in your mind on who is who here I will post a compilation of your entire international mongering experience:

1. First time out of the country and second time on a airplane in over 30 years.
2. purportley tells a fellow passenger (whispers in his ear) that he is going to "
yank his testicles off" ROTFL
3. Loses his "international cherry" is that possible? to a hooker sent to pick him up at the airport!
4. Blow's his load and shits his pants at the same time so he stinks up someone else's bathroom so the chick won't know.
5. Gets caught "brown handed" by the other guest and manages to get booted from the mansion.
6. Is so embarrassed that he starts ragging on the Medellin forum because Aussie would never put up with his whining on the mansion thread.

I could go on and on but I am sure every one is clear on who is the "Pene largo" and who is the "Babosa".

LB

Lima Busy
05-07-06, 22:45
INSERT inevitable one liner by Escort King here and on 3-4 other Colombia forums.

Lima Busy
05-07-06, 22:47
Insert Scooby1 retort here.

Lima Busy
05-07-06, 22:52
This space reserved for the 2-3 responses by various members testifying to what a great guy I am.

Ok, flame war over,case closed,zipit ,time to move on to the "pretty paisa talk"

LB

Dashing Don
05-07-06, 23:12
Allow me to say that your last few posts were clever and funny.

But maybe praise from me may not be welcome.

Suffice to say that if you keep this up, you'll find yourself on some poll or other.

But it makes fun reading anyway.

Now lets get back to the info on the 3-dollar skanks; 4- dollar handjobs; and the guys that think that that is overpaying.

Don

Escort King
05-07-06, 23:29
INSERT inevitable one liner by Escort King here and on 3-4 other Colombia forums.

You are just looking for a flame war.... I comment on posts because I have yet to visit Colombia but have given some solid feedback in the DR section... I am planning a visit over Labor Day weekend and am reading here to learn and make some friends.... so screw you.

Escort King
05-07-06, 23:32
Not too cool.... what's the deal Beer?
and I was asking for a full explanation from both sides.... ease up....

Scooby1
05-08-06, 00:52
I think Lima forgot to take his prozac this morning and is in the manic mood of his manic depressive DSMIV diagnosis. Take your meds dude & mello out If you half to go back that far to something I wrote a few months ago to be able to insult me then they should up your dosage. You also seem to have a problem with Escort, leave Escort alone just because you are wearing out your hand from being alone and having to resort to mama thumb and her 4 daughters for relief doesn't mean you have take it out on everyone else. You want to think you have a high intellect but degrees don't mean squat. Thermometers have degrees and you know where they stick some of them so back off and quit being a butthole.

Scooby1
05-08-06, 00:58
It is also very interesting how you come up with the whole shit your pants thing. Since I said I had to take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) it must be the shit you have between your ears that is blocking your eyes from seeing what I was saying and not quoting me correctly

Hoof Hunter
05-08-06, 01:48
people who frequent colombia don't post in this forum as often anymore. for the past 3 pages, with the exception of tomtom 33's taxi warnings, it's been filled with a lot of bs. let me jump in and add some to the mix. this won't be a flame war, cuz i have nothing more to say on the topic.

lima busy wasn't the only guy on this board who felt the need to say something. just the 1st. kinda funny, by the way.

escort king, your 1st trip to medellin is 4 months away? yet you comment on everything posted here as if...... dude, fall back a little. it's not helping the board at all.

scooby, i'm truly sorry to hear about the issues you had at the mansion, but if the mansion guys had to kick you out, you really had to fuck up big-time. i've never been to the mansion, never needed to go there. however, i hear they are stand-up guys. maybe you did a lot of this to yourself? does the quotes below ring a bell? there are a shitload more that i won't even bother with.

maybe you should have taken up your issue with beer.... in pm.

medellin has quickly falling down my list of colombian cities to re-visit. been there, done that. so much more to see and re-visit. had some interesting non-pro conversational experiences there in medellin in march. enough to let me know, things are changing there and not for the better. on to the gringo-less areas.


i'm all set for my trip to medellin got my plane tickets and booked room 10 at the mansion from april 24th thru may 4th. i decided for my first trip id use the mansions pick up service from the airport the extra 30 buck is well worth it the hassel of finding a taxi that won't rip you off.

if any of you are going to be there at that time & want to go horn doggin lets get together for some sexual hijinks with the local ladies. besides id like someone who knows the local scene to show me around. i have taken lots of notes that im going to print out of the places id like to check out.

scrappy or scooby to my friends


im going to medellin at the end of april and im on a budget. it took me 6 months to save enough, that i could hide, to blow on this my first mongering trip. therefore im looking for the best deal out there, and medellin is the best, it has the kind of girls i like for the right price. if the girls at the mansion quote me a price of 300.000cp im hopping in a cab, heading to hotel eros, getting a 12hr room with jacuzzi and find as many sgs as i can in 12hrs for the same amount of money.

i work to hard for my denero to give it all to one hooker for a couple hrs of peel the bannana. i plan to play hide the salami from the moment i land to the moment i fly away. im going hardcore all the way baby, ill have to be carried on the plane ill be so worn out. im bringing about 4k usd of my hard earned money with me, "i am" going to have a blast no matter what.

if anyone wants to join me well then "lets party on dudes".


have you ever even checked the prices for a room at the mansion. they are cheaper than most of the nicer hotels in medellin there are only like 9 rooms its a very intimate place. yoy get breakfast and a pool party every sunday with beautiful piasas. the intercontinental hortel charges 106 usd per night for their cheapest room. the mansions most expensive room is the sir francis drake room and it has a jacuzzi plus you can bring girls there anytime you like. their cheapest room is $50.00 usd plus they help you with finding your way around town and will even physically show you where to go. for someone who does not know the city its the best deal in town.


my point is, that guys can get most of there knowledge of a place from this and other sites like it. they act like an expert and say they have been to a perticular destination, yet never have, they just learn the lingo and fake it.

so unless a person includes photo evidence of where they have been, i'd take it with a grain of salt. it is very easy to fake your way through life and life is way to short to trip on what peple say.

Superboy1
05-08-06, 02:15
Thankyou Hoof Hunter ,you have said everything i have been thinking,Especially the comment about Escort King , alot of gas but never been to Medellin,cool it alittle mate till you have been there,but please do not let any of this put you off.

And Scooby - calm down,i am sure you are a nice guy thats just had a bad time of it,becouse of someone else.let keep this forum nice,we all in some way have the same Goals.Bring the pretty girl on :-)


people who frequent Colombia don't post in this forum as often anymore. For the past 3 pages, with the exception of TomTom 33's taxi warnings, it's been filled with a lot of BS. Let me jump in and add some to the mix. This won't be a flame war, cuz I have nothing more to say on the topic.

Lima Busy wasn't the only guy on this board who felt the need to say something. Just the 1st. Kinda funny, by the way.

Escort King, your 1st trip to Medellin is 4 months away? Yet you comment on EVERYTHING posted here as if...... Dude, fall back a little. It's not helping the board at all.

Scooby, I'm truly sorry to hear about the issues you had at the Mansion, but if the Mansion guys had to kick you out, you really had to fuck up big-time. I've never been to the Mansion, never needed to go there. However, I hear they are stand-up guys. Maybe you did a lot of this to yourself? Does the quotes below ring a bell? There are a shitload more that I won't even bother with.

Maybe you should have taken up your issue with Beer.... in PM.

Medellin has quickly falling down my list of Colombian cities to re-visit. Been there, done that. So much more to see and re-visit. Had some interesting non-pro conversational experiences there in Medellin in March. Enough to let me know, things are changing there and not for the better. On to the gringo-less areas.

Sky Dog
05-08-06, 02:22
I returned from MDE 2 days ago and I am rested enough to make a report.

Stayed at the Mansion and went to a few of the usual spots.

The 1st night I picked up a street girl, that I knew, and took here back to the mansion for some short time. I had to give her 100K, up from 60K for both her and a friend only a few months ago. She spend about 4 hours with me.

Another day, Scooby1 fixed me up with his GFE's friend called Isabella. She was great! Did everything just the way I like it ;) She stayed all day, evening and night for 150K. I was very pleased with her. Thanx Scooby1.

One day a few of us decided to have a pool party and someone's date called several girls over. I like a tall blonde named Carolina. And took her upstairs for short time. Long beautiful legs. Large firm tits that seemed fake, but I could not find any scars or feel implants. Great service! We never discussed money, but I gave her 150K and I'm sure she was very happy with this.

Of course, being fond of street mongering, I found myself at Mayorista a few times. Took one back to the mansion for 100K. Very pretty, but the service was so so. On another ocassion I picked a very small spinner. She agreed on 20K and the hotel got 14K. In the room she wanted extra to take off her top. I laughed and said she could leave it on. :)

Suerte Everyone,

Sky Dog

Tom 33
05-08-06, 09:52
I understand where you are coming from in your comments about MDE. But remember that MDE has a metro population of about 3 million. Although I love Parque Lleras, I spend very little time in Poblado. I have never been to any massage parlors or casas. I have seen very few Gringos in the many weeks I have spent in MDE. I very rarely hear English spoken except on TV.

There are a lot of places to experience in Colombia. However, I like to go somewhere, set up camp, and stay awhile. From my home base in CTG, I can go many places that few Gringos have ever seen including a few places right in CTG. But I tend to stay close to home in Laguito.

For those who really want to get off the beaten path, I would suggest Manizales, Pereira, Armenia, Bucaramanga, and Boyaca. I do like BAQ as well.

Cachorro
05-08-06, 12:41
Scooby,

If you have anger management issues (and it seems like you do)...

Let me suggest to you that Medellin, and Colombia, is not the place for you.

Any aggressive and argumentative guy will sooner or later challenge the wrong person. And then there's a small chance that he will take the flight home not in first class or coach, but checked into the cargo hold in a box. That's if he doesn't just disappear without a trace.

Don't take that as any kind of threat, I am just mentioning it as a heads up. These kinds of reminders are good to make once in a while for the newbies. Because as a first timer you no doubt speak precious little Spanish and can't read situations as well as a native. There is a reason most Colombians are polite and avoid conflict. That's because when people make enemies, things can get brutal.

Anyway, for your own benefit please take your own advice and mellow out. And start respecting other people, like those on this board for instance. I reported you to the moderators again cause these last posts of yours are a waste of everyone's time, just like your political rants the last time.

PS: Thanks Hoof and Lima, I agree with your comments.

Escort King
05-08-06, 15:37
Okay guys I am off the board..... I thought this was an actual community but it is not.... I am a serious monger - do 3-4 trips a year and also p4p in the US - am divorced and have kids and only get a few free days a month when work and family commitments allow... I like the ability to discuss and learn things - but this place is obviously just a reference place - there are a few other monger boards that are far more friendly - where members hang in large groups both in other countries and have meetings at home - am attending a BBQ this month that will have 30 plus guys that have all met up in the DR at various times over the past 3-4 years and keep in touch at home.

To me a message board is a community... you have moderators but the people who are regulars make up its personality - this thread tries to restrict that and my time is too valuable to waste it here - I will post in a couple of the other threads and let the thread Nazis here play their superior race games....

With a bit of luck one of you will be down in MDE when I am there and can report back to the lads about the adventure.... I will be the one with the camera around his neck and the money and condoms bulging out of my pockets.... being polite to the natives and asking all the right women - Greg/Robert/or guide to be found advising me - "Cuanto qu'esta" - and whatever number they say - "No problema".

I don't live there and know now it will not be a regular spot unless they guys who monger there are not represented by many of the people here - in which case I may have to change the bloat the economy trip - or the get a bunch interested in the WU novio games.....

I have been around the block and have watched all types of economic and social impact the sex trade has brought to many a third world country... I started in SouthEast Asia and Australia and have been through Europe and the Caribbean - oh and the US and Canada - I am going on 50 and apart from the 7 years I was married have been an active participant in the mongering game. I did not sock away pennies while married to sneak off and monger bitching that I only have a few pesos/bhats/dollars and those free spenders were screwing up my ability to be cheap and twotiming.... but hey who am I to judge? It is now your thread enjoy it.... Scooby PM me and I will let you know of a couple of other boards you can hang out in....

This should just become an RSS feed of trip reports.

Ricker
05-08-06, 15:43
The HOOF makes some good points ... the Colombian board sure has changed ... more like a Frat party now ... with lots of freshmen ... oh well.

I have to say ... at least the Escort King seems like a nice guy ... just eager to get to Colombia ... and reading his comments are not like those of some apparent kindergarten students.

I have to agree with TOM 33 ... still great places to hang out / hide out in Medellin and all of Colombia without having to feel like you're surrounded by gringos.

Parque Lleras / Mangos in Medellin ... might as well hang out in South Beach, Miami ... IMHO .... to each their own.

Suerte!

Hoof Hunter
05-08-06, 16:40
The HOOF makes some good points ... the Colombian board sure has changed ... more like a Frat party now ... with lots of freshmen ... oh well.

I have to say ... at least the Escort King seems like a nice guy ... just eager to get to Colombia ... and reading his comments are not like those of some apparent kindergarten students.

I have to agree with TOM 33 ... still great places to hang out / hide out in Medellin and all of Colombia without having to feel like you're surrounded by gringos.

Parque Lleras / Mangos in Medellin ... might as well hang out in South Beach, Miami ... IMHO .... to each their own.

Suerte!

Hey - completely agree with Tom and you about there being many places off the beaten path. I have come to appreciate those places very much. Spanish goes a long way. Will I ever mention those places on this public board? LOL!!!!

Y'all can have the Mangos, Parque Lleras, Oveido, Tesoro, Grill San Diego, Loutron, Fase Dos, La Isla loop. Have at it. It's getting closer to the Meia Pataca, Help, Terraza Atlantica, Monte Carlo, L'uomo, Centaurus loop of Rio by the week. It used to be fun, but.....

There's much more to Medellin than that. The people, in particular the chicas, are much warmer than the Poblado crowd. Even better when the p is free (well, not counting drinks and maybe a late night snack).

One final thing I will say to all who think that Medellin is a playland. Please take heed to Cachorro's post here. Medellin is still a very dangerous place in Colombia. Less dangerous than before, only means that it is now Colombia's #2 most dangerous city, with Cali having replaced it at the top. They don't target gringos, per se, but if you happened to end up in the wrong place, wrong time, the consequences will be more severe than if the same happened in the USA, CR, or DR. Fuck around if you want, get drunk and fight with cabbies in English if you want, but don't say you didn't know.


Any aggressive and argumentative guy will sooner or later challenge the wrong person. And then there's a small chance that he will take the flight home not in first class or coach, but checked into the cargo hold in a box. That's if he doesn't just disappear without a trace.

Don't take that as any kind of threat, I am just mentioning it as a heads up. These kinds of reminders are good to make once in a while for the newbies. Because as a first timer you no doubt speak precious little Spanish and can't read situations as well as a native. There is a reason most Colombians are polite and avoid conflict. That's because when people make enemies, things can get brutal.

Scooby1
05-08-06, 18:02
Hoof Hunter

I truly understand where you are comming from. If I offended anyone it was not intended. One thing I have to say is that for my first mongering trip ever it has been great, except for the one experence. Graeg the owner of the Mansion has been great so has Robert the owner of the Castillo. I will never forget my experiences here.

The first day I was here I told a cab driver I wanted to go to show san deigo to check out the sg´s. I found two beauties that I took back to the Mansion one was named Jennifer who was 21 but looked 14. The other was an extreme beauty named Marisol her beauty surpasses anything I have sceen here and I fell in love. I called her back the next night and I again partaked in the sweetest and tighest pussy I have ever experenced.

I made an agreement with her to pay her 5000,000cop to spend the rest of my time with her. After an argument I payed 300,000cop and told her if she wants to spend time with me it was because she wanted me and not because I was paying her,

She has come back everynight to be with me for no denero she hasn´t asked me f or a dime.I trully believe she is the one and tommorrow Iam going to marry her and take her home with me. I have found my soul mate.

scoobh

Treeshark
05-08-06, 18:15
Jeez guys., maybe just maybe, a few people should take a "vacation" from this board for a few days to calm down. Old saying, if you can not say something nice about someone, say nothing at all.

Speaking of something nice, that steak restaurant at Oveido mall is nice. Try the
Filet Mignon with Hollandaise sauce. Superboy1 seemed to get more excited about that then the chicas. In case you do not know my handle here Superboy, would Harley Davidson help??

Escort King
05-08-06, 18:20
Hoof Hunter

I truly understand where you are comming from. If I offended anyone it was not intended. One thing I have to say is that for my first mongering trip ever it has been great, except for the one experence. Graeg the owner of the Mansion has been great so has Robert the owner of the Castillo. I will never forget my experiences here.

The first day I was here I told a cab driver I wanted to go to show san deigo to check out the sg´s. I found two beauties that I took back to the Mansion one was named Jennifer who was 21 but looked 14. The other was an extreme beauty named Marisol her beauty surpasses anything I have sceen here and I fell in love. I called her back the next night and I again partaked in the sweetest and tighest pussy I have ever experenced.

I made an agreement with her to pay her 5000,000cop to spend the rest of my time with her. After an argument I payed 300,000cop and told her if she wants to spend time with me it was because she wanted me and not because I was paying her,

She has come back everynight to be with me for no denero she hasn´t asked me f or a dime.I trully believe she is the one and tommorrow Iam going to marry her and take her home with me. I have found my soul mate.

scoobh


You are a nightmare..... have you thought about any of this apart from your little head?
What will she do. How will your family react? Your circle of friends etc.
She is a P4P girl.... why not just keep in touch and go back more for starters... hell I give grief to the Western Union guys who send money to women in other parts of the world... marrying one after a couple of nights... who's language you do not speak.... you are headed for headaches.

Tiny 12
05-08-06, 18:37
There is a reason most Colombians are polite and avoid conflict. That's because when people make enemies, things can get brutal.


Very true, of Colombia and some other Latin countries as well. I think that's a large part of the reason they're so damn polite.

The last time I was in Medellin was 7 years ago, and I understand a lot has changed for the better, in terms of safety. But I was scared shitless in one hooker bar, La Torre. A few of the patrons got drunk and decided they didn't like gringos. And I was the only gringo around. I was minding my own business at the time -- hadn't talked with any of them.

I had a friend there that was in law enforcement. He worked out of a building that looked like a fort. When they went into certain barrios to investigate a murder or whatever they had to go in like an army, because the police didn't control the neighborhoods, the gangs or AUC or FARC or whatever did. We were driving around one evening through a rough neighborhood and I asked him what would happen if the car broke down. He said we'd be toast.

If you're in Medellin for a couple of weeks, you're probably going to be O.K., even if you act stupid. I think the chances of something bad happening over the course of a year, though, would be high if you acted stupid.

MiamiHeatLuver
05-08-06, 18:39
Hey Scooby,

I have also had many girls feel like they are my soul mates, they told me what i wanted to hear and LOOKED directly into my eyes after 3 or 4 dates and told me that they loved me.. But do yourself a favor and take it slow do some investigating, follow your instincts. I know this is not what you want to hear, but I for one was totaly "Ciego" "blind" to my last novia and did not want to listen to ANYBODY including family and BEST friends and found out this chick was seeing her "OLD" novio behind my back.. f-ing *****. Just remember the girls are pros at sympathy getting and manipulation and EVERYTHING in COLOMBIA is "PESOS" whether you like to hear it or not. I know it ALL sounds Cliche' but its true!.. If it works out, God Bless and GOOD LUCK! beacuse you found a VERY special girl!.. "CHINO"

Double
05-08-06, 18:49
It is your first trip. Many guys have found that special peice of tail, and hit it off on a mongering trip. Many a lady has also given the sweet spot up for free. Hell, I did it during a vacation to Brazil and extended my stay. At the end of two weeks, she still had me yearning for her but I had to return home. When I got off the plane and hit my front door I new the reality was that I could not bring a GDP home as my girl. My work family, friends, work associates, and others that I am in contact with may never know her backround but lying to everyone would get old very fast. Answering those questions that people ask, where did you meet? what did she do in her country? ect. We spoke on the net, and we talked on the phone, I even see her when I go back, but there is no future in it.

Once you get home and return to your regular life you will miss her but reality will set in. Scooby, she is a pro and she is covering angles that you have not considered. Give it six months to see how things go. There is a saying in spanish, amor de lejos es para pendejos......do not let a pleasure trip turn you upside down. Go to your local strip club and get a Vip from one of your favs.

Tiny 12
05-08-06, 18:49
Hoof Hunter
She has come back everynight to be with me for no denero she hasn´t asked me f or a dime.I trully believe she is the one and tommorrow Iam going to marry her and take her home with me. I have found my soul mate.
scoobh

Scooby, respectfully, ARE YOU INSANE? You're going to marry someone tomorrow you met a few days ago? A street hooker? Who you presumably can barely communicate with? Who's 30+ years younger than you? What do you think is going to happen when you get her back to the U.S.? That's if you get her back to the U.S. -- the embassy tries to weed out the hookers when they give out visas. If you do end up getting a visa, it's probably going to take a long time. A buddy of mine who's a lawyer took about a year to get his Colombian wife into the U.S. And she wasn't a street hooker.

If she's not asking you for money it either means she's looking for a bigger, long term score (a Western Union payment from you every month) or she's looking for a way out of her current situation and is going to dump you the second something or someone better appears in her world. Now she may not be thinking that consciously right now -- you may be her knight in shining armor. But you get a drop dead beautiful Colombiana off the streets of Medellin and take her to the U.S. and you've turned a piece of coal into a diamond. And that diamond has legs. It's going to walk right out of your life.

I'd think there's about a 98% chance you're pulling our chain here, but if not you need to slap yourself in the face a few times. Then start learning Spanish better -- take classes and study a couple of hours a day. Make some more trips to Medellin, date some good girls. And spend a couple of months, at least, getting to know the person you're thinking about marrying. There's a fiancee visa where you can get the woman into the U.S. for 90 days before you tie the knot. You can't use the fiancee visa if you're already married.

Tom 33
05-08-06, 19:13
Scooby forgot to log out again. You forgot the part about kissing and making up with Beer.

Fortunately nobody can decide to get married tomorrow and actually do it. This is Colombia. The only thing that's easy is getting laid. Everything else here is very difficult, takes forever, and requires a pile of paperwork - if it can be done at all.

If he were to get married tomorrow, it would take a minimum of 6 months before he could bring her to the US. That should be enough of a cooling-off period.

Medellin Executive
05-08-06, 20:07
Yes the rooms may start at fifty dollars but the pay for play goes up dramatically there are many other inexpensive and safe places just check the lists[

QUOTE=Hoof Hunter]people who frequent Colombia don't post in this forum as often anymore. For the past 3 pages, with the exception of TomTom 33's taxi warnings, it's been filled with a lot of BS. Let me jump in and add some to the mix. This won't be a flame war, cuz I have nothing more to say on the topic.

Lima Busy wasn't the only guy on this board who felt the need to say something. Just the 1st. Kinda funny, by the way.

Escort King, your 1st trip to Medellin is 4 months away? Yet you comment on EVERYTHING posted here as if. Dude, fall back a little. It's not helping the board at all.

Scooby, I'm truly sorry to hear about the issues you had at the Mansion, but if the Mansion guys had to kick you out, you really had to fuck up big-time. I've never been to the Mansion, never needed to go there. However, I hear they are stand-up guys. Maybe you did a lot of this to yourself? Does the quotes below ring a bell? There are a shitload more that I won't even bother with.

Maybe you should have taken up your issue with Beer. In PM.

Medellin has quickly falling down my list of Colombian cities to re-visit. Been there, done that. So much more to see and re-visit. Had some interesting non-pro conversational experiences there in Medellin in March. Enough to let me know, things are changing there and not for the better. On to the gringo-less areas. [/QUOTE]

Scooby1
05-08-06, 23:49
I have Robert checking into marrige with his lawyer but you are right This is not Vegas everything takes a very long time. Guys understand this I have always been very impulsive I trully believe this girl is right. Maybe if I can swing it to bring her to the U.S. it won´t work out but if there is a possibility that it would and I pass it up I´ll regret it for the rest of my life. For people like me chances like this only happen once in a great while.

Im going to her barrio to meet her family tonight to ask permission for her hand. Im tired & lonley and I have the chance to be happy I'm not going to pass that opportunity up. As far as my family goes my older brother is fluent in Spanish I talked to him last night and he told me I was crazy but the family would support any decession I made.

As far as my friends go if they don't accept my decession then they are not true friends. This girl and me have been together for 15 days (so much for my cheat sheet) and its not about the sex thats everywhere here. We just click and have so much fun doing regular things(so much for my cheat sheet)

Sailor2006
05-08-06, 23:59
Hello,

I am introducing my self, I have looked though your old posts and found the information usefull in planning my trip to columbia. Thanks and I will report back on my trip.

Ezinho
05-09-06, 00:02
Hey everyone, Ezinho here from the Ecuador boards, I've never been to Medellin, but I have banged a couple Paisas in Quito, so that's gotta count for something, right?

Anyways, I have been reading the Colombia boards for a while now because it's somewhere that I would like to go someday, and enjoy reading the information that is posted. Having said that, judging by the quality of posts that have been appearing in the last couple of weeks, I'm starting to understand why there are some people that don't like the idea of the Medellin Mansion. The fact of the matter is, if it wasn't for the Mansion, I doubt people like Scooby would be headed to Colombia, and judging by his posts, let's face it, this kind of person would be much better off mongering in places like Tijuana/Costa Rica/the DR (or the "Little Leagues" of mongering, as I like to call it).

I mean, how many more Scoobies is it going to take before Medellin goes the way of the above mentioned mongering locations?

Member #4351
05-09-06, 00:33
...interesting thought.

Sailor2006
05-09-06, 00:49
...interesting thought.very intresting thought many people have said the same thing about hotel del ray and CR.

Ricker
05-09-06, 02:03
Well ... just off the phone with Robert del Castillo ... looks like the SCOOBY saga is real.

Good luck senor .... wish you luck!

Cachorro
05-09-06, 02:14
Marriage: a very expensive way of getting your laundry done for free. ;-p

What happens to most guys is that marrying a puta is a very expensive way of getting free sex and companionship. In the end it turns out more like a short-term lease, anywhere from 6 months to a couple of years. It can be expensive emotionally, not just financially.

What also happens is that monger meets puta, then they separate while the immigration process starts and one person ties up their life to go and live with the other. In the meantime the girl is still hanging out and turning tricks, or at the very least seeing old steady clients any time they happen to call. Even after the marriage, the girl is not necessarily off the menu.

Anyway, it's your life, do what you want. You are right about a true friend supporting you, although I think part of being a true friend is warning the person strongly and sincerely, if you see them about to hurt their own interests. You can no doubt expect a bit of that from your friends, too!

Tiny 12
05-09-06, 02:36
Well, this is kind of like advice coming from the Hemlock Society (group that advises people how to commit suicide), but if you're going to do this, do it with a K-1 fiancee visa instead of getting married in Colombia. You'll probably get her to the U.S. faster that way, and you'll have a 90 day period to see how it's working before you have to get married.

Uncazadorez
05-09-06, 02:43
I have Robert checking into marrige with his lawyer but you are right This is not Vegas everything takes a very long time. Guys understand this I have always been very impulsive I trully believe this girl is right. Maybe if I can swing it to bring her to the U.S. it won´t work out but if there is a possibility that it would and I pass it up I´ll regret it for the rest of my life. For people like me chances like this only happen once in a great while.

Im going to her barrio to meet her family tonight to ask permission for her hand. Im tired & lonley and I have the chance to be happy I'm not going to pass that opportunity up. As far as my family goes my older brother is fluent in Spanish I talked to him last night and he told me I was crazy but the family would support any decession I made.

As far as my friends go if they don't accept my decession then they are not true friends. This girl and me have been together for 15 days (so much for my cheat sheet) and its not about the sex thats everywhere here. We just click and have so much fun doing regular things(so much for my cheat sheet)Scooby,

I don't now you or the chica but all I can say is the odds are against you in every way considering everything you stated. Your a grown man and obviuosly can make your own decisions. But take a breather. You are in Disneyland right now. Away from work and the rat race we live in in the states. Once you get back it will set in. If you move forward I wish you much luck and hope you don't take it to hard when the ride crashes. I'm out!

Carrib
05-09-06, 02:54
wow...I recently came back from my first trip in Colombia and like most others I found some of the info posted here invaluable. I refrained from posting until I had something to contribute, most of my posts have been in the Brazil forum and although I've been to DR, Costa Rica, Capetown, JoBurg, Canada and countless weekend trips to the Caribbean--I do most of my mongering in South America. This is a wide open board, but there is a certain etiquette that we must try to follow in order to keep this as a place where we gather and share experiences, good and bad, on the chicas...I for one have never been to Asia..may travel there soon for a 3 week business trip..that does not mean I will be posting all over the asia forums.

Colombia is beautiful country but still dangerous--do take heed to the advice given here, not a place to start acting up. keeping a low profile is key... we were a FASE DOS and this guy got excited and wanted to go to the stage and start throwing pesos, pulled him to the side and had him tip the girl when she came by the table like everyone else. In fact a couple of colombian guys waved and said hello when they were leaving


With that said looking back, I probably overpaid by at least 50K pesos for a bachelor party...but quickly redeemed myself later by paying an avg of 100K or getting it for free. There are considerable non-pro possibilities in Colombia but language is a must. I am going to make an effort to learn Spanish and get to know the country more..but I am still scared shitless venturing too far out in Colombia..FARC/AUC!!! ..have done it in brazil.

when the Brazil board get off topic, I usually tell a story..Here is one..


Normally during my trip I dont report about non-pros...this past trip I met this non pro, we hung out the last night and kept in touch...We emailed each other and spoke on the phone a few times. she told me she had 2 daughters and she is in school...ok cool...I normally dont do this stuff but I had such a good time with her I figured what the heck...u want to be my novio? sure I said....the next time I called she drops the bomb...Now I do speak some portuguese so I prob understand 40% of her spanish and who knows what she gets when I respond...from what I understood she told me that the father of her children is trying to take her kids--(had no clue what "hijas" was) and she needed money for a lawyer..lawyer, need money...I understood...HUH? WHAT?? send me an email. whenever these chicas start talking crazy I always play stupid "NO COMPRENDE!!" basically the story is this, she sent the email saying: that her ex---father of her 2 kids is trying to take custody--(yeah right) and she needs money to bring a lawsuit against him..she has no means of support, wish u were here...etc.

One thing I've learned (so far) from Colombian women is that they will make-up elaborate lies. Most other women I've met in other countries will ask money straight out or use school as an excuse. For example.We called Loutron for one of the babes..we had reserved her but when time came she was nohwere to be found--called back and were told she had a death in the family so she had to leave early---she was prob called out by another monger.

I will be back in Colombia much wiser and hopefully with better spanish...I thank all of u who have contributed on this board and made my experience much better even though I had to scroll wayyyyyyyy back to find some of it...lol I urge u to continue to post in order to make this forum what it should be...

El Austriaco
05-09-06, 03:33
Marriage: a very expensive way of getting your laundry done for free. ;-p

What happens to most guys is that marrying a puta is a very expensive way of getting free sex and companionship. In the end it turns out more like a short-term lease, anywhere from 6 months to a couple of years. It can be expensive emotionally, not just financially.

What also happens is that monger meets puta, then they separate while the immigration process starts and one person ties up their life to go and live with the other. In the meantime the girl is still hanging out and turning tricks, or at the very least seeing old steady clients any time they happen to call. Even after the marriage, the girl is not necessarily off the menu.

Anyway, it's your life, do what you want. You are right about a true friend supporting you, although I think part of being a true friend is warning the person strongly and sincerely, if you see them about to hurt their own interests. You can no doubt expect a bit of that from your friends, too!
Couldn't have said it better, my friend. Marrying or engaging in a long-term relationship with a puta combines with worst of both marriage and direct P4P. Even if the girl is honest and stops turning tricks, there is pretty much nothing else she knows how to do to earn a decent living, so the financial burden on you will be major (including some kids, in all likehood). Plus, considering that she met you as a john, there's no hiding the fact that you like to engage in P4P, and if she stops turning tricks, you will be expected to stop seing other women. In addition, the prostitution experience will likely have caused her and/or her kids (if any) some very serious psychological disorders. Overall, it's a formula for a nightmare.

Can this thing work out? Sure, but it's not very likely. I am not being negative here, Scooby, just realistic. I don't blame or judge you: as a matter of fact, I have been there a few times, myself, so I am speaking from very tangible, first-hand experience. Like Cachorro said, it is a very expensive ordeal: financially, emotionally, and spiritually. Even if it works out in the long run, which I sincerely hope it does for you.

All the best,

EA

MiamiHeatLuver
05-09-06, 03:36
Enugh of Scoob, lets all expect the worse and pray for the best,, if she takes him to the cleaners, well hey, he made his bed let him sleep in it. I mean hes not a kid and we all said our peace!

Doc Bill
05-09-06, 19:16
I arrived last night and breezed right through customs & immigration. I then went outside, to the left, and upstairs to the one ATM I could find and withdrew the max of 200k. Humberto Garcia, the taxi driver sent by my hotel, Torre Poblado was prompt and a good driver down that long and winding road into the city. Oh, I forgot to mention, before I even left the airport an attractive middle aged-woman started hitting on me as I was waiting for my taxi! Offering to "help me" with my spanish and all that. I was flattered but declined.

I´ve only seen El Poblado so far, and just registered in a Spanish class at the university (EAFIT). My God, those chicas are incredible! In fact, in my brief time here so far, admittedly less than one day, I haven`t seen anything less than gorgeous. The range is gorgeous to drop-dead gorgeous. I suspect they have a law here that all ugly girl babies get drowned at birth. That must be it!

So far the facility and service at the hotel are excellent. Everybody tells me I can go alone to centro safely, so I´m going. The food is good, I ate at Thaico last night, which was excellent. Women look at you here, I mean for a few moments, and smile too. I am too new here to be able to tell whether that is just friendliness, flirtation or the "come fuck me" look. But I´m about to learn.

More later.

MiamiHeatLuver
05-09-06, 20:25
Hey Doc,

Just in case you didnt know Banco Colombia should give you a max of 400K and even better Davidienda should give you a max of 500k, that should help a little with your bank fees!

Peace,

"Chino"

Escort King
05-09-06, 20:26
Well, this is kind of like advice coming from the Hemlock Society (group that advises people how to commit suicide), but if you're going to do this, do it with a K-1 fiancee visa instead of getting married in Colombia. You'll probably get her to the U.S. faster that way, and you'll have a 90 day period to see how it's working before you have to get married.

This is the best idea that is being suggested....

Timeout
05-09-06, 23:07
I arrived last night and breezed right through customs & immigration. I then went outside, to the left, and upstairs to the one ATM I could find and withdrew the max of 200k. Humberto Garcia, the taxi driver sent by my hotel, Torre Poblado was prompt and a good driver down that long and winding road into the city. Oh, I forgot to mention, before I even left the airport an attractive middle aged-woman started hitting on me as I was waiting for my taxi! Offering to "help me" with my spanish and all that. I was flattered but declined.

I´ve only seen El Poblado so far, and just registered in a Spanish class at the university (EAFIT). My God, those chicas are incredible! In fact, in my brief time here so far, admittedly less than one day, I haven`t seen anything less than gorgeous. The range is gorgeous to drop-dead gorgeous. I suspect they have a law here that all ugly girl babies get drowned at birth. That must be it!

So far the facility and service at the hotel are excellent. Everybody tells me I can go alone to centro safely, so I´m going. The food is good, I ate at Thaico last night, which was excellent. Women look at you here, I mean for a few moments, and smile too. I am too new here to be able to tell whether that is just friendliness, flirtation or the "come fuck me" look. But I´m about to learn.

More later.I'm gonna register EAFIT as well within this week. I might see you ;)

Gringo Loco
05-10-06, 01:11
A lot of mujeres muy bonitas walking around EAFIT. Have lunch at some of the cafeterias on campus... you never know who you might run into! I sat through a few classes there with one of the guys that was staying at The Mansion, but ended up taking some private lessons with one of the instructors instead only because they had no classes at my level -- either below or way too advanced. It's a nice, friendly environment. Plenty of chicas.

Doc Bill
05-10-06, 06:14
I went to check out the strip club San Diego tonight. It was completely underwhelming. About 12 or so girls, most wolf ugly, and only two that were about an 8 that I would consider doing. I probably picked the wrong one, Caterina (sp?), a dark, Indian mix who looked and said she was 21. She was petite and very pretty.

She quoted me 150K for the hour, which seemed a bit high to me at a place like that. Anyway, you know guys, sometimes all I need is fifteen minutes, and by then the music (horrible and loud) and smoke was getting to me, so I asked how much for a half hour and she quoted 80K. Once in the room she started with that all-too-familiar "it hurts, etc." shit, so I just got it over with and split. Hey, did I just go on a bad night or what?

The taxi I got outside to go back to my hotel, at my request, gave me a quick tour of the street chicas in that neighborhood. Most looked pretty good, with some real stunners. I was done for the night but I took mental notes. He assured me that the area was safe, but it looks a bit shady. I like shady, so I´ll probably check it out. The street girls were infinitely better than those at San Diego.

Am I wrong or is it true that most of the casas and "massage" parlors all close early? So does that just leave the strip joints? Anyone try room service that they would recommend?

Tom 33
05-10-06, 09:20
I don't like strip clubs or casas. The street girls around Grill San Diego are fun and fairly safe. The best trolling hours are from about 11:00 pm to 2:00 am. Stay in the cab and let them come to the window. The normal asking price "por un rato" is 40K. If you are taking them to Torre Poblado, you should expect to give them 4K for a taxi back to San Diego.

Ricker
05-10-06, 13:53
Hey Doc ....

the Club San Diego can be hit or miss ... also if you see a hot chica you like in there ... the price is completely negociable ... tell the chica you only have 40 or 50,000 pesos ... she may go for it ... I've done it.
The place closes at 2am ... then the chica becomes a free agent ... no fine to take her to the casa ... just the negociated price ... obviously, if she likes you, the price is much less.

Like Tom said ... the street chicas can be very nice there ... be careful of the drug addicts though ... easy to smell that glue they sniff when they approach the car window.

Right outside the club SDiego ... as you walk out ... to the right on the corner ... are usually a handfull of chicas ... it's safe to walk to them and chat a bit to see who's nice ... offer to buy several of the chicas a hot dog ... the guy sells them at the entrance of SDiego ... it'll cost you several dollars only ... great way to break the ice and see who's nice, who's drugged up, etc, etc.

Suerte!

BeersTerry
05-10-06, 14:37
Yeah, most of the girls are wolf ugly at Club San Diego, but it is a fun place to hang out in. I pulled "Katia' (I refer to her as Pocahontas) out of there and she was fun.

BeersTerry
05-10-06, 14:49
There are non pros to be had but,

1. You got have game
or
2. You got to look like the 'Clemson Tiger'

me ? as they say, I got me a wallet personality.

Oh, and the non pros won't go back to the mansion.

I was out with a couple of the Vikings one night at the Executive Club (? the cheaper clone of Mangos) with not much happening. One of Vikings had enough and decided to talk to a girl who fucking gorgeous, was with a group of 2 other girls and a guy. Goddamn, if in the end he did'nt pry her loose from the pack. She ended up taking him home to meet the parents before doing the deed.

..but as Greg warns, that kind of stuff gets you beat up or killed if you approach a girl with the wrong guy.

BeersTerry
05-10-06, 16:58
Fuck, finally getting around to reading the boards now that I am home, I see that I am a whiner, a coward amongst other things. The guy should try getting up a flight a stairs without having a heart attack before kicking my ass though.

I'm trying to take the high road here, as the guy in question ain't worth sweating about. I'll just leave him his story but there are two sides to it. The mansion is run professionally and I was'nt the one leaving.

Ricker
05-10-06, 18:22
Beersterry ... yep, you're correct ... I got the true report from Robert del Castillo.

You're right ... the guy ain't worth sweating about or bickering with ... let's get this Colombia section back to cool stories, info and fotos ... GRINGO LOCO started us off again in the Cali section ... Medellin section with
DOC Bill and CARRIB.

All the drama is usually from poca gente ... (a few people).

Back to important stuff ... gracias.

Scooby1
05-11-06, 02:20
For you guys who want to warn me well Im here back home & I left her there.

Doc Bill
05-11-06, 03:32
I thought I just read something about this thread getting back on track, WTF? Ok, well, I´ll keep doing my part.

I checked out Hotel Plaza Rosa today, and I highly recommend it. I was going to move there from Torre Poblado because of all the construction noise going on around here (are we cursed, Bambino, or what?!). I ended up staying because they gave me a suite for the same price (113K/night) in a part of the building where you can´t hear the noise. Good deal.

Had my first ¨plato mananero¨ today - very filling, very good. It was at ¨La Setenta,¨gracias a Ricker. It´s a good & funky area. I walked from there around the soccer stadium and by the Obelisco (sp?) Mall. Then I pulled out my little cheat sheet to get ready to ask a taxi to take me to Energia, and wouldn´t you know I discovered that I was standing right in front of it. So in I went.

Overall I was pretty impressed. The girls ranged from 6 to 9, and there were about ten of them. Two were nines. I took Luna. She was nice, beautiful, and performed good but not great, but good is great for 70K! (That´s about US $30). I´m going back for Paula soon, since she´s still on my mind. The place was clean and friendly.

It is true what I read here awhile back - that the taxi drivers here don´t know shit about what is where. I can´t understand that. Always be sure to ask if he knows where you want to go before getting in the cab, or it will take you forever. I also suggest avoiding cabs during rush hour. Traffic barely moves, anywhere. Anyway I lucked out and found a great guy, who knows all the mongering moves and spots, Juan Carlos (cell:312 201 3519). He´s honest also and no attempts at extortion or gouging. I had him take me to the nearest Citibank branch, where I have my account. The max withdrawal was 300K, but the machine let me do that three times in a row, at a rate of 2326. Not bad.

Now I have an evening to plan. Hasta luego!

Doc Bill
05-12-06, 04:33
Well, I´m liking it here a bit more than Barefoot Chap, but it´s true that if you´re a nature loving, hiking, beachy, etc. person Medellin is not the place for you. It is strictly urban - very urban! I like it, and I love BA for the same reason. Different strokes and room enough for all.

Tonight I went to the renowned Loutron. I must say I´m glad I can say I tried it but what a near-total waste of time and money! The line-up was only four girls, two of them that I would even consider doing (as compared to my Energy experience for half the price, see earlier report). I chose "Katia," a very lovely 21 year old with (initially) a bubbly personality. The facilities are truly superior here, and the physical ambience is great. So I came about halfway into the one hour session, then we layed there for a bit and I was ready to go again and she told me that I would have to pay for another session. WTF!!!! I said I wouldn´t do that and she suddenly got real cool and took her shower. We were out of there in 45 minutes. I have to repeat myself: What a waste of time and money! And her performance was about a 6. I will not repeat this place and would not recommend. The only good thing I´ll say about it is they do make a damn good cup of coffee.

On a non-mongering note, I rode around on the Metro today, which was a lot of fun, and took the cable car way up the mountain to Santo Domingo. It felt exactly like being in Rocinha, the big favela (slum) in Rio, but I felt totally safe and met a lot of people. One family invited me in for lunch and made me a dyno "plato montenero," and nobody asked me for anything. All the kids came around and wanted to play and have their picture taken. It was a great experience. Ciao for now.

Tom 33
05-12-06, 12:15
It is safe to get off and walk around during the day near the cable, but don't do that at night. A general rule: the higher you go, the more dangerous it becomes.

BeersTerry
05-12-06, 13:36
Yeah, when I went to Loutron's there were only 6 girls. 3 of them were doable so the three of us took them. About 10 -15 minutes after, more guys from the Mansion went up and did not like any of the 3 girls left and so they had a disappointing first experience at Loutron's.

Medellin Bob suggested the best time to go was at 2:00 pm as the university students are off classes and start coming in to work between 1 - 2 pm.


On another note. I don't have any vacation pictures, I was a little preoccupied and forgot/did'nt get a chance to take any. Can anyone email me nice pictures that can be shown in mixed company ;-)

Cachorro
05-12-06, 14:38
Doc,

Glad you enjoyed the Metro Cable.

Loutron, yeah, it has been hit and miss for me. I only went twice. The first girl was fantastic. The second girl was awful. I think a lot of it depends on the girl. What I did appreciate about Loutron was that each time afterwards they asked me how it went, if everything was OK. With the feedback they get, I hope they straighten out the lazier girls. But I did not bother going back enough times to find out...

I still like Energy. Even then, there was one time I left Energy without taking anybody because I didn't get good vibes from any of the girls. But every time I have sessioned there I found it excellent value.

I think you are being a little hasty to write off Medellin for activites. It has plenty of nature and good stuff. For the nature you have to leave the city a little bit, some people are understandably cautious about doing that. Anyway, Medellin has a great physical setup for paragliding. Horse riding. Trails in the mountains and hills, take your pick. And people say great things about El Penol, a bit outside the city.

Doc Bill
05-13-06, 03:43
Thanks for the clarification, Cachorro, and as always for your good advice. I thought about paragliding, but when thunderstorms break out like this with no warning I´m a bit skiddish about it - call me crazy.

Today I had another class at EAFIT and took a nice stroll around campus afterward. I gotta tell you I could have been arrested and thrown in jail for the rest of my life for the things I was thinking! So I headed back over to Energy and sessioned with Paula. Best session so far of this trip. She´s from Barranquilla, and gave me her phone number to see her at my hotel tomorrow. I can´t wait, this one is a real gem.

Had dinner at La Doctor by the Poblado Plaza Hotel tonight, and it was the best meal I had so far here. I highly recommend it. The mall right next door was also fun for walking and people watching. I was going to go to either La Setenta or el centro tonight but a cab driver who has lived here all his life said that neither would be safe for me, so I´ll save those for the daytime and stroll El Poblado tonight. More later.

Ok now it´s later, and I´m just adding to this report. No mongering news tonight. Parque Lleras is hopping, lots of beautiful people around. Not really my scene - It´s just like South Beach in Miami only with tons of police with automatic weapons and bomb-sniffing dogs. I was going to do the streetwalker scene but chickened out and played blackjack instead at Casino Rio. It´s fun playing with those large denominations. After about three hours I found that I was up a dollar and left. WTF.

Mahku
05-13-06, 11:31
Better to go during the early afternoon, about 2 or so, when most of the local horndogs are either at work or asleep. I always went at that time and there were usually 10 or 11 in the lineup, mostly lookers.

Q Bert
05-13-06, 20:32
Not really sure where to start this but here I go anyway.

FD- Some hot strippers who'll meet you after they close at 3:00 AM for 150K Pesos or you can do them there for a little more. Recommend Brenda and stay away from Anjolina (or something like that).

SD- Don't bother. I went there twice during my stay and didn't see one I'd do for free.

Mangos club (non pros) - very expensive but I really good dance show if you're into that. I usually don't have a problem picking up non-pros in any country but it would be a problem if you're not a Spanish speaker or have uber mucho game. During my stay I got lucky and met a fairly good English speaking student (19) who was also a sexual freak. She snuck me into her home when her parents where sleeping. Scary and do not try this unless you got some balls. Looking back, I was kind of an idiot for taking that chance being that it looked like the family had lots of money.

Medellin Mansion- Greg and Bob are great guys and care about their business which means putting up with a lot of cry babies as well as a lot of really cool clients that I met during my stay. I didn't need a lot of baby sitting so I had a really good time. Greg and Bob have been doing this for about 2 years so they just don't have the energy to take everyone out everynight but they try. My suggestion is to bring some of your friends and get Greg or Bob so show you the quick layout and explore on your own. You'll have a blast.

The Vikings - great guys. You're a baby if you have to complain about guys who love to party.

If anyone has any questions about Medellin or my stay then please send me a private message. I'll try and respond to everyone and don't be shy about asking anything. I will answer as honestly as I can without giving you a hard time about reading the board first.

Finally, I am thinking about taking a year off and moving to Medellin to learn Spanish. If anyone has any info about EAFIT or apts close to the school then I would appreciate you letting me know. I really enjoyed hanging out with all the new friends I met at the Mansion. Great people, conversation, and times! Chao Amigos!

CT

Gringo Loco
05-13-06, 22:37
Here's a link for EAFIT:

http://www.eafit.edu.co/EafitCn/Idiomas/spanishProgram/ingles/index.htm

Great place to learn spanish. Very reasonable rates and plenty of hotties around campus too.

Doc Bill
05-14-06, 01:15
After spending the afternoon walking around centro and the Parque Periodista I found my way over to this place, which got a good review here previously. It´s nondescript, but a yellow building near the corner of 33 and 65 with a sign by the bell that says "sonar" (duh!). This very hot little cutie with a lollipop in her mouth opened the door and gave me a great big smile. She went on to explain the prices and policies but I couldn´t hear a thing what with her sucking on that lollipop and all.

She introduced me to the three girls that were there, one 5 and two 3´s. I decided to leave but for the hell of it asked the lollipop girl if she was available, and she said "sure!" Que suerte! Her name is Veronica, 20, and her attitude and performance were exemplary. 50K plus another 30K for oral without condom (That´s a total of about US $34).

Unfortunately condoms seem to be the norm here for oral, which is no big deal to some people but it´s a huge big deal to me.

I asked if she was available to come to my hotel later or tomorrow, and she said yes, for 100K (US$42) for a couple of hours, and she gave me her cell no. I´ll be calling her for sure. Highly recommended, and she said she is there every day. But be warned, none of the other girls were doable for me. On my way out she stuck that lollipop in my mouth and kissed me goodbye.

The facility was plain and didn´t look dirty, although I had a feeling that I wasn´t the first one on that sheet since it had been washed. No hot water.


And on a completely unrelated note, before I forget, I want to mention that the standard taxi regulated rate to/from the international airport is 42K. That´s a lot better than the 50-65K that some of the "guides" listed here are asking.

Doc Bill
05-14-06, 06:41
Well it´s Saturday night in Medellin, and my plan was actually to just stay home tonight and read a book. I actually felt "sexed out" and decided to give it a break, and I didn´t feel like dealing with the weekend club crowd. Besides, I can hear them from my hotel room. Now I´m not much for comparing places, I think comparisons are usually unfair - each place is unique, but I must say that this place ties Rio for me for having the most sex, and right now it´s about half the price (if not less) of Rio.

Anyway, my little brain changed my mind for me and I called Veronica, the girl I saw at Samsara earlier today. She was here in 30 minutes and twice as good as she was at the parlor. DFK & bbbj and all kinds of craziness. She offered to spend the day with me tomorrow, and I told her I was planning to visit Pueblito Paisa, which I haven´t seen yet. She said that she would love to go with me and show me around, and when I asked how much she said nothing, that she just wanted to be a friend and accompany me, and that we would only exchange money when we had sex, but for nothing else. Sounds good to me. Oh, shit, do I have a girlfriend here too now???

Now I have a dilemma, which, ok guys, I admit is a luxury problem: Do I go with her tomorrow or go by myself as originally planned and not have to worry about dealing with anybody else? I can see enjoying it either way. Hmmm...

QuackUp
05-14-06, 09:37
I have read about 30 pages back of reports but I still have a question. In the casas, is it just one pop? Or is it like the termas where it's as many pops in the time allowed? Actually this question is for most of the girls, not just the ones in the casas.

Thanks,
Q

Screwed Up
05-14-06, 09:50
One pop. Or you could discuss the two pops thing within the same time frame with the girl up front. But don´t expect much luck.

Cachorro
05-14-06, 10:26
I have read about 30 pages back of reports but I still have a question. In the casas, is it just one pop? Or is it like the termas where it's as many pops in the time allowed? Actually this question is for most of the girls, not just the ones in the casas.

Thanks,
Q
Some of the Medellin casas (eg. Energy, Abydos) have a house rule that sex and BJ can be one round only, even with a one hour session.

I never bothered to find out exactly how this rule applies. Basically, you need to negotiate upfront with the girl for what you want. This includes number of pops, BBBJ etc. I have usually been able to get two shots in the hour session. Sometimes I had to insist a bit, while still remaining nice. It's between you and the girl, what goes on behind closed doors the house has no way of knowing.

As always, if you are not nice to deal with, the girl will fall back to the letter of the law and do the bare minimum. And some girls are just flat out lazy. Hopefully by selecting carefully you can avoid those ones.

Tom 33
05-14-06, 14:56
Go with the chica. You can figure out Pueblito Paisa by yourself(bring your camera-the panorama is spectacular), but she can show you things you never would have seen.

Doc Bill
05-14-06, 22:49
Thanks Tom, I did go with the chica and I´m glad I did. There was nothing there I wouldn´t have seen on my own, but she turned out to be good company, and we had a great time back at my hotel afterward. I´ve got a couple of G rated photos of her that I´ll post when I get home. I gave her 200K instead of the 100 that she wanted just for the sex. It seemed only fair, she did spend the whole afternoon with me.

Siesta time now.

Member 9578
05-15-06, 23:53
Wondering if anyone has purchased good generic Viagra (sildenafil) in Medellin? I read a report to stay away from "Eleve" and if there is a good pharmacy near Oviedo mall that would be great.

Thanks for all the info everyone has contributed. Will be making my first trip in a couple days and will hopefully be able to contribute back to the board.

kos hunter

Kickboxer151
05-15-06, 23:57
hey guys:

i'm just curious. does anyone know of any very nice accomodations that has high speed internet and is chica friendly?

i'm just looking for another experience besides the mansion.

thanks

BeersTerry
05-16-06, 01:27
www.blacksheepmedellin.com

backpackers hostel

BeersTerry
05-16-06, 01:31
There is a 24 hour grocery store 1/2 block down the road from the Oviedo mall with a pharmacy in it.

Most people that I have talked to said that Viagra flushes their face and chest too much. I find that it also increases my heartrate. The generic cialis was effective. I found no side effects other than the raging boner that won't go away. ;-0

Tom 33
05-16-06, 01:34
A Colombian internal medicine doctor cautioned me about using generics in Colombia. They are not manufactured to the same standards as US generics. And there are counterfeit drugs sold in Colombia. My rule of thumb is to only buy name-brand drugs for life-saving meds like Lipitor. If the generic Viagra is a little off, my life is not in danger.

I have used generic Viagra in Colombia in the past without problem.

Tom 33
05-16-06, 01:38
Did you buy generic Cialis in Colombia? I get mine via the Internet from India. I asked a pharmacist in CTG last week about generic Cialis. He said that you couldn't get it in Colombia.

BeersTerry
05-16-06, 02:47
Yes, got the imitation cialis with help at/from the mansion.

India ? They have a very bad reputation for selling you knockoffs or even namebrands with very little active ingredients.

MiamiHeatLuver
05-16-06, 02:58
As of May 3rd which is the day i got back from COLOMBIA you CANNOT get generic Cialis there,, and this is not heresay i askes a few Pharamacists. "CHINO"

Doc Bill
05-16-06, 04:00
There are a few hotels that I know of first hand that are excellent, but only one that I stayed at, where I am right now, the Torre Poblado, recommended to me by Tom. I have never, even in the states, found hotel staff that went so out of their way to make their guests happy. These folks are great, and so is the facility. It´s in a great location, too, a block from Parque Lleras (sp?).

Only one computer for public use, but wifi in every room. I´m paying 113K (about US $45) per night taxes included. There is no "guest fee," in fact Henry the night desk guy will get you any kind of girl you want. Now, THAT´S room service!

The other hotels I have seen and look good are the Poblado Plaza, Plaza Rosa, and Dann Carlton.

Tom 33
05-16-06, 11:31
Maybe I have just gotten lucky. I have probably bought 300 to 400 of them over the last few years and never had a problem. Some of those were used by friends who also had no problem.

Crypton
05-16-06, 15:14
Maybe I have just gotten lucky. I have probably bought 300 to 400 of them over the last few years and never had a problem. Some of those were used by friends who also had no problem.

I have bought Indian generics (including viagra and antibiotics) both in India and Thailand and they work great. Great value for money. In fact, India is well known for making quality generics (although not legally sanctioned by the multinationals).

BeersTerry
05-16-06, 19:24
As I understand it, the pill(s) I got may have actually been cialis rather than imitation/generic cialis.

India is an up and comer as far as medicines are concerned. However, as they do contravene patents, I am not sure of the controls as to who can make them and the standard that they are held to. I am sure there are quality producers, but how can you tell ?

Crypton
05-17-06, 00:10
As I understand it, the pill(s) I got may have actually been cialis rather than imitation/generic cialis.

India is an up and comer as far as medicines are concerned. However, as they do contravene patents, I am not sure of the controls as to who can make them and the standard that they are held to. I am sure there are quality producers, but how can you tell ?

You have to know the company. I have used from several companies (and as far as I can tell, they all worked). The biggest and most reputable is Ranbaxy (they make Caverta). You can buy Caverta in the US over the internet pretty cheap compared to real stuff (but way more than in India - they are about $2.00 per 4X100 there).

Uncazadorez
05-17-06, 01:20
Went to Energy on Saturday and sessioned with Luna a 22yr old very good GFE. She must have cummed twice because she got very much into it $60,000 out the door for 1 hour. My friend also sessioned with Sara but he said he got a number..like it hurts,etc. etc. but at the end I guess he was happy. Same price 60,000.

Uncazadorez
05-17-06, 01:29
After a little black jack 21 gambling we decided to see the street scene. It was Sunday which was mothers day and the scene was dead. Ended up going to a place called hotel ejetivo (executive hotel) only two chicas one was a black girl that was very rough and the other was a 7. So I said the hell with it. She gave me BBBJ for about one hour and a half with two five minute breaks in between. Pussy was ok but stank! Here she is boys.

Uncazadorez
05-17-06, 01:37
Well let me tell you this place is on the down low. Later in the day after our energy session and after face II (waste of time) we ended up in a place known as the palmas. Before we went there we got this cab from Fase II which was a sincere guy and we had him do the tour of calle 53 street girls and he gave us the whole roll of. Please don't go there it is trash and you will get rolled up if your go there etc. But being respectfull like I am I let him and my buddy give us his ear full of opinions. Then he commenced to say he knows this place that the chicas are high class and we can go there and if you don't like we will leave a. S. A. P. Well we agreed and went for it. Thats when the freakiness started we started going up these windy hills and ended up at a gate of a home that was locked like a fortress and he was beeping and beeping. We got freaked out and told him to leave because we did not like the situation. I gave him the look like I was going to tackle him and start grounding and pounding. He kept beeping and beeping and getting nervous himself untill finally a guy opened the door and I got the shivers thinking this is going to get more interesting. After he gassed in and the iron gate slammed shut. We shot out like bullets. I stuck my chest out and starting charging the guy that slammed the gate with timed steps. Low and behold before he got an arms length of me he stuck out his hand and said welcome. Damn what a freak show! Thank god he said that or else it would have been nasty. Then he commenced to open the door of the house and boooyah! It reminded me of a hollywood home up in the hills over looking L. A. 12 chicas all around 7's and some 9's. Very cool calm and collective. No pressure. Highly recommended for the folks that like low key mellow places. Somewhat like a players club.

Cubanut
05-17-06, 02:22
hey guys:

i'm just curious. does anyone know of any very nice accomodations that has high speed internet and is chica friendly?

i'm just looking for another experience besides the mansion.

thanksmy buddy djanselmo wrote this:

some of my friends still stay at the mansion, like cubanut and a few others. i have always said do what is in your best interest. on that note, as promised, i told everyone when i got new info on a new place that was going to open i would share it with you. just to be upfront with you, i am not being monetarily rewarded in regards to passing on this info or anything there after. this place is a lot nicer than the mansion imho. the service there is going to be impeccable and your security and privacy will be 1st rate all the way. the room prices will range from $30 to a max of a $100 there are 10 rooms and this place totally rocks! right around the corner from oviedo mall and it's so much quieter than the mansion. some of you might have noticed the traffic that goes through the street in front of the mansion is very noisy in the am, because of the bank business that's going on. i will post some pictures for you to check out. the latest word is it will open on the 15th of this month with a grand opening sometime in june. i will post any changes as they come to me. stay tuned!

Cubanut
05-17-06, 02:32
hey guys:

i'm just curious. does anyone know of any very nice accomodations that has high speed internet and is chica friendly?

i'm just looking for another experience besides the mansion.

thanksa few more pics of the alternate place to become available in june 2006:

BeersTerry
05-17-06, 12:46
hahaha, how do you know you were not just extra horny ?

Escort King
05-17-06, 15:38
You have to know the company. I have used from several companies (and as far as I can tell, they all worked). The biggest and most reputable is Ranbaxy (they make Caverta). You can buy Caverta in the US over the internet pretty cheap compared to real stuff (but way more than in India - they are about $2.00 per 4X100 there).

Interesting that items that promote sex are cheaper in India than ones that promote safe sex....

Tony D
05-17-06, 17:37
Wow, this place looks real nice. Are the pictures of the $30 rooms or $100 room. I like the sunken tub! You say opening the 15th of this month. Well that was this past Monday. Anybody staying there already? Any info on the connection with the girls?

What is their contact info?

KB,

Looks like you found a new place that may meet your standards.

TD


My buddy Djanselmo wrote this:

Some of my friends still stay at The Mansion, like Cubanut and a few others. I have always said do what is in your best interest. On that note, as promised, I told everyone when I got new info on a new place that was going to open I would share it with you. Just to be upfront with you, I am NOT being monetarily rewarded in regards to passing on this info or anything there after. This place is a lot nicer than the Mansion IMHO. The service there is going to be impeccable and your security and privacy will be 1st rate all the way. The room prices will range from $30 to a max of a $100 There are 10 rooms and this place totally rocks! Right around the corner from Oviedo Mall and it's so much quieter than the Mansion. Some of you might have noticed the traffic that goes through the street in front of the Mansion is very noisy in the AM, because of the Bank Business that's going on. I will post some pictures for you to check out. The latest word is it will open on the 15th of this month with a Grand Opening sometime in June. I will post any changes as they come to me. Stay Tuned!

Menteng
05-18-06, 14:05
Hi,

I´m active senior member in a different part of the world and will visit Medellin shortly. I have read the reports in this section beginning at 1st may. But, very few direct information about mongering. I have also read the Medellin List, but I'm sure more can to be told.

Let me start by saying that I speak Spanish and that I like young, slim girls (no culos grandes, por favor!) who give good BBBJ and allow CIM before the fucking. Especially when the BBBJ comes with a cat's bath. Cat's bath: the girl licks you all over, including AR. Besides, I also prefer barebacking when fucking.

So guys, please don´t flame me, but do give usefull information about places/brothels and current rates in those places.

In exchange I can give you information on Jakarta in Indonesia or be your guide when you come there as off september.

Uncazadorez
05-18-06, 16:23
Hi,

I'm active senior member in a different part of the world and will visit Medellin shortly. I have read the reports in this section beginning at 1st may. But, very few direct information about mongering. I have also read the Medellin List, but I'm sure more can to be told.

Let me start by saying that I speak Spanish and that I like young, slim girls (no culos grandes, por favor!) who give good BBBJ and allow CIM before the fucking. Especially when the BBBJ comes with a cat's bath. Cat's bath: the girl licks you all over, including AR. Besides, I also prefer barebacking when fucking.

So guys, please don´t flame me, but do give usefull information about places/brothels and current rates in those places.

In exchange I can give you information on Jakarta in Indonesia or be your guide when you come there as off september.I have just posted a more detail Medellin Report in the Medellin list section. To answer some of your questions. Is the typical paisa or colombiana has big culos. You may find some spinners but not many. They mostly all will give you BBBJ but some will hassle you and try to get away with not performing it. As far as CIM very very rare also. Grant it there might be some out there but not many like it. Bareback fucking is not very common either but I do not ask for it so I really would not know. All I know is every time I get head and make a move, they always say put a condom on please (my intentions were not bareback) simply changing positions. Well I don't know if any of this helps but good luck. And make sure you see the Medellin list.

Menteng
05-20-06, 23:35
Uncazadorez,

Thanks for the reaction. I have read your list, and I´m sure it will help me to find my way in MDE. As for my former posting, I had hoped that other members could give me the info I needed.

I arrived at fridaynight in MDE and managed to bring a brief visit to Bar San Diego. However was too tired for any action. But I think the real reason was the size of the culo´s of the girls I saw in there. The fully naked strippers couldn´t keep my attention either for the same reason. To tell the truth, I only saw three performances.

As for my preferences about sexual actions, I think I´ll have to give in eventually. About the physical conditions, I´m afraid I can only find them among the teenagers. It looks like only in this group I can find the girls with small culo´s ´till now.

Australiano Greg
05-21-06, 04:59
Guy´s, this is Aussie Greg.

Just got back from driving from Medellin to Manizales to Pereria, Armenia to Bogota and back to Medellin.
Counldn´t make it to Bucanamunga as was no time as we are very busy at the Mansion y El Castillo, will do it in a week or two with also the drive to Santa Marta, Cartagena and back to Medellin.

Any body with any questions, no problems, please ask, will post the pic´s this coming week, regards.

The Aussie.

Uncazadorez
05-21-06, 08:39
Uncazadorez,

Thanks for the reaction. I have read your list, and I´m sure it will help me to find my way in MDE. As for my former posting, I had hoped that other members could give me the info I needed.

I arrived at fridaynight in MDE and managed to bring a brief visit to Bar San Diego. However was too tired for any action. But I think the real reason was the size of the culo´s of the girls I saw in there. The fully naked strippers couldn´t keep my attention either for the same reason. To tell the truth, I only saw three performances.

As for my preferences about sexual actions, I think I´ll have to give in eventually. About the physical conditions, I´m afraid I can only find them among the teenagers. It looks like only in this group I can find the girls with small culo´s ´till now.Good Luck, and remember 18 and up is the only options you have. Make sure you ask to see there cedula so you are certain of legal age and dont get into any kind of trouble. Be safe!

Doc Bill
05-21-06, 09:10
First off, let me say that it was a nice place to visit, and worth seeing. Second, I won't plan another trip there soon. Maybe someday, but not soon. The third world urbanity of it got to me after awhile. I also (and this speaks more to me than any country), just couldn't feel the "soul" of the place, as I had in Cuba, Brazil, Argentina. I just couldn't seem to connect to it as i have elsewhere. Again, this is more a statement of me than the city. It was beautiful, and I did some sightseeing, but enough became enough. I left a few days early to be with my new girl (Colombian) in Miami Beach, and that was a great way to round out the trip

Now I will say, that having been to Rio, BA, Cuba and BA, that Medellin has the highest concentration per capita of drop-dead-gorgeuos women. This works to your favor only if you speak good spanish and play the game right. I didn't, and since I had a Colombian girl waiting for me back at Miami I admit it colored my view as well as my behavior. The girls, and all Colombians in fact, went out of their way to be helpful and friendly at almost all times.

I never felt a sense of danger, although I took all necessary precautions. While there was fairly good food to be had, you really have to look for it. Most of the food, and service sucks (a la Habana).

The Torre Poblado Hotel, where I stayed, had the best and most helpful and accomodating people I've ever encountered anywhere. Henry the night guy would even bring girls up to my room if I wanted. I really enjoyed my Spanish class at EAFIT U.

Sexually the girls struck me as somewhat distant and a bit reserved (as opposed to Cuba, BA and Brazil), and the one-pop only rule and the covered oral was a real drag for me. I did find a couple of diamonds, though, so I can't say that that was a bad experience. I was able to have a steady diet of good sex, or at least good enough sex, at very cheap prices.

Since there are very few options at night, and none of them good in my opinion, I suggest you get phone nos. of the girls you like in the casas and arrange to meet them at night. I did this several times with great success. Most of them seemed willing to do this.

If I'm leaving anything out please let me know. I just got in and I'm braindead. But in short, it's a nice place to visit but I wouldn't want to...

Bambino
05-21-06, 10:20
Bill, once again, you have been the pioneer. You've done the ultimate TOFTT. You are always willing to be the risk taker.

I thank you so much. As you know, I have had an eye on Colombia for a while. But being smitten with Brazil has made it difficult. I can now say that if the thing with my "pen pal" in Porto Alegre doesn't work; Cartagena?

And this doctor you are bonking, as I write this...I'll go along with you next time and let her hook Me up too ;.)

Senor Amable
05-21-06, 12:25
Hey Doc Bill:
I've been doing Colombia for about five years now, with the last three and a half in Medellin, probably thirty or so weeks there.
I have to admit your thoughts more or less parrot mine, although I disagree on a few points. My initial trips to Medellin, would echo your thoughts completely,but after getting to know Medellin, only after spending a great deal of time there I have a somewhat slightly different opinion.I too have basically travelled the globe, but for the last five years only in Colombia and Panama. I was at the Torre Poblado for eight days from the ninth to the seventeeth of this month, too bad we didn't run into each other.The Hotel, its services and personnel were ABSOLUTELY GREAT! I'll be back there again in June.
Again, my hats off to you on a completely honest, objective and well written report report.
BTW,I envy with you with your Miami Colombian. I've been looking for one for five years and still can't come up with one, and I live in the vicinity.
Saludos,
Amable

Straight Shooter
05-21-06, 14:41
I to stayed at this hotel and would highly recommend it. Doc Bill you really shared with us a honest report and experience and I echo your sentiments exactly and I have been in Medellin 2 times this past year with both stays for 6 days and 5 nights.

Shekwan
05-22-06, 19:58
Two questions.

1) Are there ATMs at the airport?

2) Where can I find a Davivienda ATM? Apparently they have the highest withdrawal limit (500k).

Australiano Greg
05-22-06, 22:38
Guy´s,

Just got back from driving from Medeelin to Manizales, Pereria, Armenia on to Bogota and on to Medellin, drove the last 4 hours into Medellin in the dark.

No problem driving on the main autopista´s, even at night with a very strong military present, the military even camp out on the highways at night.
Even the road police are nice and pleasant to talk to at the road blocks, you must have your documents in order though.

If anybody has any questions please pm me, regards.

Aussie Greg

Q Bert
05-22-06, 23:07
Hello from the good old USA!

Thanks again for a pleasant stay.

I have a question, of the places you visited, which one would you open another "Mansion" in?

Just curious.

CT

BeersTerry
05-22-06, 23:51
I've done a little bit of travelling also, and like Doc Bill, found that while the women are gorgeous, the sex was a little pedestrian. I spoke to a few guys there that had said similar things.

An individual who was doing an extended tour of South America echoed the same sentiments, though he did like Medellin as a city...and it might be a good place to have a semi-steady girlfriend.

Where I do disagree is the food. I did find the food pretty good as a whole. The pasta was terrible as a general rule though.

Australiano Greg
05-23-06, 00:06
Gidday Tiger,

We were thinking of Pereria but its now Armenia, we are looking for a small hotel/large house now, should have something up and running in a month, regards.

The Aussie.




Hello from the good old USA!

Thanks again for a pleasant stay.

I have a question, of the places you visited, which one would you open another "Mansion" in?

Just curious.

CT

Q Bert
05-23-06, 02:22
I wanted to open one up and retire with my buddy! Let me know if you need someone to run and/or invest in it! ;-)

CT

Ricker
05-23-06, 03:11
Just got back from a combined Cali / Medellin visit ... needless to say, I'm already going thru withdrawls ... but I just remebered I'm going back to Cali on Thursday ... I'll be OK.

Anyway ... I'll post more later ... however, the bottom line is ... I stayed at the Medellin Castillo of the Aussie Greg / Medellin Bob clan and had a FANTASTIC time!

I'm no stranger to the Mansion ... actually, I was the first official guest to stay there a ways back.

I know other guys are posting alternative lodging in Medellin and that's great ... I'll just say, the best thing about staying at the Mansion / Castillo is the service from their crew ... from the secretaries to the maids and the security guards ... and of course Medellin Bob and Aussie Greg, who I have to say, seems to have finally acclimated himself to Medellin and has mellowed nicely ... good guys.

There always seems to be beautiful women running around the place ... good girls and the 'bad' girls ... which I think is the primary reason guys visit Medellin ... not for the fluffy pillows.

I'll post more later ... just wanted to throw in my 2 pesitos about surprisingly really enjoying my time at the Castillo / Mansion amongst the gringos, like myself ... just don't like to think myself as one ... haha.

For Medellin Bob / Doc Bill ... the more I visit Medellin ... the more I like it!
I spend more time in Cali now ... my girlfriend lives and studies there ... but Medellin is wonderful for sure.

As for wishing for a Colombiana in Miami ... be careful for what you wish for ... hahaha .... my buddy has one ... nightmare!

I'll keep mine in her natural setting .... Colombia!

Australiano Greg
05-23-06, 03:26
RICKER,

Can you post a few pic´s of your girl with the Medellin Mansion outfit I gave her, gracias mi amigo, suerte y listo pwesss

The Aussie. P.S. Does she have a younger sister mate ?

Sean EZ
05-23-06, 04:34
Where is Torre Poblado hotel? Do they have a website? I don't seem to find any contact info. Thank you.

MiamiHeatLuver
05-23-06, 04:36
imho colombianas are a strange breed, the minute you take one ot of her native humble environment and take one home ea "the states" they morph into some greedy kind monsters, where they become egotisitcal, vain, materialistic, possessive, and then begin to try to conform and wonder why they don't have all the material things like other colombianas in the us. They lose thier innocence and humbleness goes out the window! And then they look for the better option around the corner and I that doesnt get you, they will just remember that they have a distant cousin close by that they forgot to tell you about, who even if she is female wants to go out and party and she has alot of male friends so she doesnt really care if you go or not because its her cousin and you should trust her, ha ha LOL. Colombianas have this installed in thier genes, they cant help it so try not to blame them and just better off leaving them thier. "chino".

Tom 33
05-23-06, 14:22
http://www.torrepoblado.com/inicio.html

Escort King
05-23-06, 20:03
imho colombianas are a strange breed, the minute you take one ot of her native humble environment and take one home ea "the states" they morph into some greedy kind monsters, where they become egotisitcal, vain, materialistic, possessive, and then begin to try to conform and wonder why they don't have all the material things like other colombianas in the us. They lose thier innocence and humbleness goes out the window! And then they look for the better option around the corner and I that doesnt get you, they will just remember that they have a distant cousin close by that they forgot to tell you about, who even if she is female wants to go out and party and she has alot of male friends so she doesnt really care if you go or not because its her cousin and you should trust her, ha ha LOL. Colombianas have this installed in thier genes, they cant help it so try not to blame them and just better off leaving them thier. "chino".

Is this the Chino I met down in the DR?

MiamiHeatLuver
05-23-06, 20:07
Did we sit together at the bar a Haligali? Could it be you? And you rented a car? And I got the room with the Jacuzzi?

Surfer
05-23-06, 21:12
it is LIVING IN AMERICA that will fuck up almost any nice girl regardless of nationality. I brought a sweet Filipina here many years ago. Like SO many before her, she became Americanized. Now we are divorced. While I have dallied with the idea of bringing a Colombiana up here (ONLY way is fiancee visa unless they are VERY wealthy and have connections), I believe Ricker's plan of keeping her in her natural environment is better. Even a TOTAL sweetheart like Ricker's girl could probably become Americanized after a year or two living in Florida. No sir: keep the wildlife wild!

Davidienda ATMs do NOT give 500K to everybody; it all depends on your ATM card issuer. Servibanco was giving 400K last trip (I have NEVER been able to get more than 400K from ANY ATM with my cards).

Greg: Did you visit Antifreeze when you were in Periera? Why did you decide on Armenia instead?

Kickboxer151
05-23-06, 22:08
Ok Guys this is my take on this! 90% of the guys I have seen in Colombia and abroad that are mongering would NEVER in a MILLION years get a girl that looks as half as good as what they are paying for in those countries! So they THINK they fall in love because they have never had a good piece of ass like this ever in their life and they want an arm charm to bring back to the states where guys like me would take them away from them while their wives are working out at the gym!! LOL... Meaning if you want to keep what you have found in that foreign country THEN become a legal resident alien and invest to live there and NEVER bring her back to the USA!!! I hate when these guys think that the USA is the land of milk and honey! Face it your taking these girls out of their natural enviornment, doyou expect them not to amalgamate to the USA society?Hmmmmmm Think about it!

Thats my opinion. Whats yours?

MiamiHeatLuver
05-23-06, 22:25
HI Surfer,

ok I think I must concur, your right anygirl from any country will soon become corrupted living in the us. They quickly lose thier humbleness! All those years living in thier perspective contries gaining thier humbleness "gone in 60 seconds" LOL and I have also have dabbled in the idea of bringing my novia here on a fiance visa, she is so nice and humble and not materialistic at all, but then I say to myself to I reallly want to bring my hot novia to South Beach? I think not! I might but then I would have to move to a "finca" in nebraska ha ha LOL P. S I have a Washington Mutual bank surf and I can get regularly 400k from Bancocolombia and 500k from Davidienda and usually 300k from everywhere else which is the max.

Peace,

"Chino"


it is LIVING IN AMERICA that will fuck up almost any nice girl regardless of nationality. I brought a sweet Filipina here many years ago. Like SO many before her, she became Americanized. Now we are divorced. While I have dallied with the idea of bringing a Colombiana up here (ONLY way is fiancee visa unless they are VERY wealthy and have connections), I believe Ricker's plan of keeping her in her natural environment is better. Even a TOTAL sweetheart like Ricker's girl could probably become Americanized after a year or two living in Florida. No sir: keep the wildlife wild!

Davidienda ATMs do NOT give 500K to everybody; it all depends on your ATM card issuer. Servibanco was giving 400K last trip (I have NEVER been able to get more than 400K from ANY ATM with my cards).

Greg: Did you visit Antifreeze when you were in Periera? Why did you decide on Armenia instead?

Sean EZ
05-24-06, 04:45
I do not plan to, but if I were to marry a colombian woman or similar I would have a baby with her first and live with her a couple of years in Colombia to see what she's all about. At least I'll have children, isn't that the point of getting married anyway. My 2 cents.

Kickboxer151
05-24-06, 05:02
I do not plan to, but if I were to marry a colombian woman or similar I would have a baby with her first and live with her a couple of years in Colombia to see what she's all about. At least I'll have children, isn't that the point of getting married anyway. My 2 cents.I agree Sean.

BeersTerry
05-24-06, 15:41
Did any of you guys see a documentary of a researcher that went to live in the rain forest for 2/3 years with a primitive tribe ? Dumb fuck marries one of the tribe takes her back to Florida, and in 2 years she was a shopping machine.

Ricker
05-24-06, 18:43
Just a couple fotos showing the beauty of Medellin from the view de Pueblito Paisa ... nice.

I live half the time in Colombia now ... looking forward to full time!

Lima Busy
05-24-06, 19:04
I do not plan to, but if I were to marry a colombian woman or similar I would have a baby with her first and live with her a couple of years in Colombia to see what she's all about. At least I'll have children, isn't that the point of getting married anyway. My 2 cents.
Bright idea, That way in two years she can not only take your trailerhome,pickup truckand credit union account but she will get the kids as well and you will have to support them and her for I don't know, maybe 16 years!

There is actually another forum where they discuss this to no end (Marrying a foriegn women".

I do agree with the other guy that having kids is one important reason to get married and everybody else that you should never bring her back to your home country.

Those of us lucky enough to be wise (a benefit of old age) realized/learned this and moved to our adopted countries to be taken care of by our "Hot" 20 year old wifes.

Often over looked by many in the pursuit of the "ultimate male fantasy" is to be sure there are excellent (insert native language) private schools available for those children or they will not get into (insert alma mata).

LB

Dodger Bulldog
05-25-06, 00:46
If I were to marry a colombian woman or similar I would have a baby with her first and live with her a couple of years in Colombia to see what she's all about
That is certainly an interesting plan.

However, I'm not so sure how well thought out it is.

On the first of June I will finally make the last child support payment to a hot little Mexican spinner who I haven't touched in over 13 years.

With the first two babies everything seemed all right. So far so good. Life was swell.

At a similar point you may have felt comfortable bringing your Colombiana wife back to the States with you, right?

But a few years later, after our third child came along, well, things changed.

Having three babies made her feel "old." She needed to feel "young and alive and desirable" again.

She was never a working girl, but I divorced her when she started going to clubs with "her friends" and then going home for the night with other gringos.

Of course, society judges that if a man is screwing around, it is because he is a bastard. And if a woman is screwing around, she is justified in doing so because her man must be a bastard.

She was totally pissed off that I divorced her because I was no longer conveniently home to take care of the kids at night so that she could easily fuck around whenever she wanted. Thus, she poisoned my own kids against me.

After two of my kids turned of age and only one was left at home I finally got my support down from $900 to only $500 a month. Yes, one third of $900 equals $500 in the eyes of the law.

Man, did she scream bloody murder when the judge ordered such a piddly little amount for her to drink up each month!

Plus, I had to continue to pay for all of the taxes on it, and $250 a month for their health insurance, along with other assorted and sundry extras.

I lost my wife, I lost my kids, I lost my house, and I lost much of my money.

I even lost my bulldog, Dodger.

All because SHE decided to screw around.

I am hardly alone. I am sure that many guys here have a similar story to tell.

If you should be so lucky as to be ordered to pay only the minimum of $50 a week, over 18 years that total comes to $46,800 per kid.

The minimum.

And that is only if you don't live in one of the nineteen states which orders divorced fathers to pay for college, which married fathers are under no legal obligation whatsoever to do.

Having kids first "to see what she's all about" might make sense for you, if you don't mind being an open wallet for the next couple of decades.

But, you may want to think about it...

DB

Medellin Executive
05-25-06, 05:46
Amen brother. Lets not forget about the rate hikes that this is also causing in the p4p market.


Hey everyone, Ezinho here from the Ecuador boards, I've never been to Medellin, but I have banged a couple Paisas in Quito, so that's gotta count for something, right?

Anyways, I have been reading the Colombia boards for a while now because it's somewhere that I would like to go someday, and enjoy reading the information that is posted. Having said that, judging by the quality of posts that have been appearing in the last couple of weeks, I'm starting to understand why there are some people that don't like the idea of the Medellin Mansion. The fact of the matter is, if it wasn't for the Mansion, I doubt people like Scooby would be headed to Colombia, and judging by his posts, let's face it, this kind of person would be much better off mongering in places like Tijuana/Costa Rica/the DR (or the "Little Leagues" of mongering, as I like to call it).

I mean, how many more Scoobies is it going to take before Medellin goes the way of the above mentioned mongering locations?

Surfer
05-25-06, 11:39
Cool guy who treats the girls with respect. I know he will be back in Medellin soon hanging with Robert. In fact, the guy kind of reminds me a bit of Robert.
Hey Kickboxer: Tell Robert I said hello and I wish I could join you guys. Have fun living la vida nueva LOL!

This baby thing is a HUGE obligation, so I jmust differ with those who suggest knocking the novia up real quick. And not just the financial obligatioin, but the emotional one as well. Doesn't it make more sense to wait SEVERAL years of living together before undertaking a lifetime commitment to the kid?

I HOPE nobody advocates doing the Colombiano thing (knocking them up then disappearing and never sending a Peso). WAY too much of that down there without extranjeros doing it too. How many of the working girls are in the trade precisely because they have babies and no papa/breadwinner?

Scooby1
05-25-06, 13:51
When I went to Medellin I was fairly independent of the other guys staying at the Mansion. But some guys couldn't tie their shoes by themselves. They always talked about their conquests but when you came right down to it you never actually saw them with a girl. They would say they found a great one last night but she slipped out early, in retrospect it sort of makes you wonder. Almost all the guys would show each other the pictures of the nights conquest but there was that one same person who said they forgot their camera. How could anyone forget something as important as a camera when they go mongering.

Then they always talk about how much fun it was hanging out with the guys, I always had girls around me if you want to hang with abunch of guys all the time you should have gone to San Francisco. Now don't get me wrong its a blast to go out drinking and chasing pussy with the fellows once in awhile, but if you can't take a shit without your buddies being there something's very strange about you.

Ricker
05-25-06, 14:07
Senor Scoob ... we've got enough of the / had enough of the little old lady squabbles here.

Why not just report on the fun / experiences and forget the BS.

This Forum is a cool place to post about chica experiences / fotos.

Trust me ... on this Forum ... or anywhere really ... if someone says something bad towards you ... ignoring them and posting / talking about other cool things is the BEST way to make them feel stupid and stop.

Gracias!

Isinc2003
05-25-06, 14:31
Just a quick thought on ATMs. I have a Citibank checking. I go to and use the Citibank ATMs thought Colombia. (ok. In about 6 citys including Cali and Medellin.).

I can pull up to 1000. 00 us equivalent in pesos on one trip to ATM. Thats millions of pesos. And I don't have to go back for a week. (er um. A few days. Anyway.)

Anyone care to share? There are is a slight surcharge built into each debit. But not any seperate fees. And from what I've seen from the vast ATMs they have. It can get as high as 5. 00 dollars per withdrawl.

One more thing. You have to keep entering your pin. And can take out 300k. Per transaction. But you can stand there and collect all those 20k bills like it was a slot machine. Don't get mugged. LOL. Take care everyone.

Pompano beach fl. Medellin. Trip 9. Aj

Beakerh
05-25-06, 16:11
well time is going fast! I guess its a sign I'm getting old! I will be heading down to medellin for my first trip. I am staying at the mansion and I hope there will be some laid back cool guys to have a few wobbly pops with and good days meeting some beautiful women. I was wondering if anyone has any info on golfing there as I would like to get a few rounds in? I was hoping greg would have a little golf tourney with some helpful caddies that make the course even more special. (some nice girls would make it fun to help with the drinks and finding the balls, would make for some great photos). Well if anyone has info I would very much appreciate it, I know they have golf courses as the colombian on the pga is having a good rookie year and he is from medellin. I think his name is villegas or something like that. Also if anyone is going to be there drop me a line so we can meet up. I will post my reports! Thnks for any help.

Lima Busy
05-25-06, 18:06
This baby thing is a HUGE obligation, so I jmust differ with those who suggest knocking the novia up real quick. And not just the financial obligatioin, but the emotional one as well. Doesn't it make more sense to wait SEVERAL years of living together before undertaking a lifetime commitment to the kid?

I HOPE nobody advocates doing the Colombiano thing (knocking them up then disappearing and never sending a Peso). WAY too much of that down there without extranjeros doing it too. How many of the working girls are in the trade precisely because they have babies and no papa/breadwinner?

DB, Thanks for sharing! I currenty pay over a grand a month in basic child support for one child. As I lived in NYC I also have the pleasure of paying that until my child is 22 along with the 1/2 the college expenses. I never quite figured out why if I am paying the tuition/living expenses for my child to study
in another state, I also need to pay my ex the basic child support.

Surfer,
You are right about not having children, or not having them until you are secure in your marriage. That goes for any marriage! My first time out of the gate I waited 7 years and then only did so in a attempt to fix the relationship.

Alot of older (40-50) mongers do not realize that it is implicit that when you marry a good girl (20-30)years younger, you must give her children. I am not particularly fond of the little buggers (too narcisistic)but I have always understood this. Obviously the way around this is too marry a girl with children already. It takes a special kind of guy but I have seen it done.

Lastly, If anyone is still reading I have never seen any talk on these boards about the "Mongers Curse". This applies to those of us who have daughters who are 18 and older. Besides marriage and disease this is big reason to retire
or up the age of the women you pick up.

LB

Tom 33
05-25-06, 18:45
I'm not big on kids either. That's why I never had any and had a vasectomy. I also have no plans to marry and never have. Thus I can keep banging 18-year-olds forever. But I much prefer it if they leave shortly after the banging. I haven't had very many intellectually stimulating conversations with an 18-year-old.

Scooby1
05-25-06, 19:08
I'm 50 about to turn 51 and I remember back when I was young my dad was quite young when he had me & my 2 older brothers. I think he was 19 and my mom was 16 when they got married and promptly had 3 kids. my father was young enough to play football and wrestle with us. I remember alot of the other kids fathers were to old to do active things with their kids. So I have to be concious of the fact that if I had kids when they graduated high school I would be in my late 60's. I never had kids at least that I know of and I was around for the free love times. There must be a reason I never had kids so I'm not going to tempt fate by having them now. Call me nieve but I still believe under the proper cercumstances childern are gifts from God and that gift should not be taken lightly.

Lima Busy
05-25-06, 21:16
I'm not big on kids either. That's why I never had any and had a vasectomy. I also have no plans to marry and never have. Thus I can keep banging 18-year-olds forever. But I much prefer it if they leave shortly after the banging. I haven't had very many intellectually stimulating conversations with an 18-year-old.
Tom33,
I am having a wee bit of trouble coming up with a counter argument for you!
Hmmm, The only things that come to mind is "hopefully I won't die alone" or "I always wanted grandchildren around the christmas tree." I am going to have to get back to you on this. In the meantime do not lose any sleep over it, unless it is for the 18 yo.
Regards,
LB

Q Bert
05-28-06, 16:17
When I went to Medellin I was fairly independent of the other guys staying at the Mansion. But some guys couldn't tie their shoes by themselves. They always talked about their conquests but when you came right down to it you never actually saw them with a girl. They would say they found a great one last night but she slipped out early, in retrospect it sort of makes you wonder. Almost all the guys would show each other the pictures of the nights conquest but there was that one same person who said they forgot their camera. How could anyone forget something as important as a camera when they go mongering.

Then they always talk about how much fun it was hanging out with the guys, I always had girls around me if you want to hang with abunch of guys all the time you should have gone to San Francisco. Now don't get me wrong its a blast to go out drinking and chasing pussy with the fellows once in awhile, but if you can't take a shit without your buddies being there something's very strange about you.


Hey Scoob,

Becareful about the San Francisco comments! ;-)

Seriously though, you're right, there are a lot of queens here. Sorry if I offended anyone with that comment.

CT

Beakerh
05-29-06, 03:52
Could someone tell me if medellin has this quality of motels http://www.motelextasis.com.co/

Thanks for any help

Kickboxer151
05-31-06, 18:00
Well. I finally made it back to Medllin after a long 7 weeks back in San Diego, California! Damn those TJ Girls are not even close to Paisas!

Now I have been hearing roomers of this place that I'm now at and WOW Let me tell you. WITH NO SUGAR COATING or BROWN NOSING! As I now know my way around Medellin and don't need to do so. So take that comment for what its worth and here is my description of the enviornment and amenities at the NEW VIP.

1) This is a VERY upscale gigantic casa that is completey guarded with 24 hour security! It also has a huge metal sliding gate that is NEVER opened unless the person / guests are identified before entering! VERY SECURE!

2) Its located in Envigado which is right down the way from Poblado and is equally as upscale part of Medellin.

3) The VIP has great rooms with the comfort of all the American amenities that you would expect in a 5 star hotel! I was at the Sheraton (Poblado) in their grand suite for 3 days prior to this and wow I cant believe how nice the VIP is!

4) "Tom" (Owner) / Albert (Gen. Mgr) act more as concerige's and are extremely professional! Lets face it men like to have fun here in (Medellin) and Tom/Albert are no exceptions. BUT what is very suprising/refreshing to me since they do not put their fun before their guests! They truly take a backseat to their (paying) guests knowing they are here on vaction, took a long $ flight $, escaping their normal daily routine etc.

5) These guys really have an outstanding UPSCALE place that you will feel completely comfortable bringing back a "normal" girl without her not being embarrased by the reputation of it being a "puta" hangout. In addition this place is so huge that it has many different areas for private conversations if you did not want to entertain your guest in your room.

Conclusion: I in no way am being compensated in any way for this thread. Tom and Albert are SINCERELY running a top notch BUSINESS and I do emphasize BUSINESS as we are first as we are the clients! I see this place being completely booked in the future with word of mouth advertising as this is what REAL sucessfull business' live and survive from! Schessh this place is completely booked now and it hasnt even opened.

Ps. There is a weekly party usually on Saturday nights with tons of "normal" girls. Great place to hook up!

TOM and AlBERT I wish you much success and joy!

I cant wait to come back!

KB151

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.

Escort King
06-01-06, 02:26
Well. I finally made it back to Medllin after a long 7 weeks back in San Diego, California! Damn those TJ Girls are not even close to Paisas!

Now I have been hearing roomers of this place that I'm now at and WOW Let me tell you. WITH NO SUGAR COATING or BROWN NOSING! As I now know my way around Medellin and don't need to do so. So take that comment for what its worth and here is my description of the enviornment and amenities at the NEW VIP.

1) This is a VERY upscale gigantic casa that is completey guarded with 24 hour security! It also has a huge metal sliding gate that is NEVER opened unless the person / guests are identified before entering! VERY SECURE!

2) Its located in Envigado which is right down the way from Poblado and is equally as upscale part of Medellin.

3) The VIP has great rooms with the comfort of all the American amenities that you would expect in a 5 star hotel! I was at the Sheraton (Poblado) in their grand suite for 3 days prior to this and wow I cant believe how nice the VIP is!

4) "Tom" (Owner) / Albert (Gen. Mgr) act more as concerige's and are extremely professional! Lets face it men like to have fun here in (Medellin) and Tom/Albert are no exceptions. BUT what is very suprising/refreshing to me since they do not put their fun before their guests! They truly take a backseat to their (paying) guests knowing they are here on vaction, took a long $ flight $, escaping their normal daily routine etc.

5) These guys really have an outstanding UPSCALE place that you will feel completely comfortable bringing back a "normal" girl without her not being embarrased by the reputation of it being a "puta" hangout. In addition this place is so huge that it has many different areas for private conversations if you did not want to entertain your guest in your room.

Conclusion: I in no way am being compensated in any way for this thread. Tom and Albert are SINCERELY running a top notch BUSINESS and I do emphasize BUSINESS as we are first as we are the clients! I see this place being completely booked in the future with word of mouth advertising as this is what REAL sucessfull business' live and survive from! Schessh this place is completely booked now and it hasnt even opened.

Ps. There is a weekly party usually on Saturday nights with tons of "normal" girls. Great place to hook up!

TOM and AlBERT I wish you much success and joy!

I cant wait to come back!

KB151

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.


Is there a website?

Cubanut
06-01-06, 06:55
hello gents,

i took advantage of the long memorial day weekend and got down to medellin last thursday 5-25-06. i stayed at the castillo but i will report on that separately.

i really looked forward on this trip to visit the new competition the boys at the medellin mansion and castillo will be facing, club vip.

now for those unfamiliar with medellin let me quickly say that the mansion and the castillo are in the el poblado area and just a few blocks from the oviedo mall. club vip is located about 3 kilometers from oviedo mall/the mansion going down ave poblado towards the envigado area.

club vip is a very nice place to call home if you are planning to stay in medellin. the rooms are varied (10 in all) from a couple of simple hotel like rooms to ridiculously large ones (one is so big that a pool table is going in soon). for right now the rates are $40 to $80 because they have not yet officially opened. there is a website currently being developed and will give a kick ass interactive tour of the place. it will be online very soon.

djanselmo is a good friend of mine. he introduced me to the owners/managers of club vip, tom and albert. both gentlemen are stand up, salt of the earth type guys. i really liked meeting them and they made me feel at home as well as they do their guests they had staying with them.

i had a tour of cub vip and must say it is stunning in beauty. like i mentioned before, some of the guest bedrooms are large. a couple are larger than your average studio apartment. a few have large oversized beds as well. all are very nicely appointed and all rooms have air conditioning. the harley davison room is actually like a coach house and is where the pool table will be put in. another room has a small living/tv area inside as well as a large aquarium and awesome furnishings, a real sight to impress the ladies.

the swimming pool is elegant although for some reason the builders did not give much room around the pool for pool furniture. several large high rise buildings face the pool area so unless high trees are planted in the future, the pool area is not private or hidden.

the guys have refurnished the main livingroom with oversized leather couches and lovely decor. a true home feeling and relaxing mood exists.

the kithcen is large but apparently off limits to the guests as a sign points out. breakfast and laundry is included in the room rate.

a new bar area was just finished being put in the saturday i visited where once was the dining room.

because of the election on sunday, it was a dry weekend meaning that all bars and discos and clubs would be closed saturday and sunday. albert and tom were throwing a party today and invited me to come. for non -guests attending the party it was $40usd or $99,000 cop per person or couple and included all drinks and food. it was about 6pm so i decided to go back to the castillo and rest up a bit and returned to club vip with a friend at about 9:30pm which was apparently early because there were only the house guests and no women.

the girls that albert an tom invited as well as other guests started arriving at about 11pm. soon the place was filled with beautiful women and well to do gents.

for the most part the girls were what we mongers deem as "good girls". it was apparent that they were not the jump in the sack variety. a few visiting guests brought their girlfriends as well. one guy did invite two "working girls" and after a couple of hours slipped into his room with both never to be seen again for the night.

the distance of the rooms from the main area is ideal because the sounds coming from either do not travel well and therefore each bedroom is very private.

the music was dance type cd's being played on a house stereo. there really is no dance floor, however.

overall it was a nice house party. definitately different than a monger party but it was a good opportunity for meeting regular girls. it was also nice to meet several business men staying at the house as guests.

i returned two days later (monday) with a friend and our dates to drop off some pictures i had taken of some girls at the party. i met with tom and he showed my friend and our dates around. the girls loved the place.

club vip has an attentive staff including andrea who is the assistant to albert and tom and speaks english. the other staff and full time security are also very nice. they offer wireless internet and free calling to and from the usa and canada.

as nice as the place looks now, albert and tom told me that they have alot more they are doing before the grand opening later this month (june).

albert also owns a farm on a lake about 90 minutes away from medellin where that big granite rock sticks out of the water (i forget the name of the area). club vip will offer tours to the farm and lakes for watersking and other [CodeWord117] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117) which is where albert was on the monday i visited again with tom.

overall club vip is an excellent place to stay. it would be unfair to compare it to the mansion or the castillo because it just has a different air to it. if one has a regular girlfriend or enjoys a more relaxed atmosphere i would suggest a stay here. i noted that many of the current guests were not the massage parlor or strip joint type guys but more business like with a more eagerness to seek out non-pro opportunities.

i know others will stay at club vip and have more to say about it, but i wanted to give you a sneak preview. i'll be happy to pass along anymore information about the website coming online if you send me an e-mail at cub_nut@yahoo.com/

i do hope that this report was helpful and i don't get accused of spamming because that is what this board is about, sharing information.

at first there was the playboy-penthouse (now gone), then the mansion and el castillo. now they are joined by club vip and who knows what's next? as medellin gets more and more popular there is sure to be more to come. i'll do my best to keep everyone updated on hotel alternatives.

cheers,

cubanut

BeersTerry
06-01-06, 14:01
Curious, given the site that all the postings are on, isn't what the guys are looking for ?

The Vikings have returned home and have informed me that they did not see any familiar faces. All new girls for the Mansion parties and not a whole lot of work to get them. Gawd, that would be hard to take.

Brugal8
06-02-06, 05:10
Hello guys,

Surfing on the internet, just came accross this site:

www.medellinadventures.com (looks like an all-inclusive place).

Does anyone here knows about it.

Menteng
06-03-06, 01:28
After visiting Club San Diego, I had to look for a good excuse to leave the missus alone at home. It wasn´t easy, but playing pool turned out to be a good one.
So one evening I found myself in the center of Medellin and visited Las Gatas, another club with striptease shows. Some girls looked better (i.e. smaller butts) than those I saw at San Diego but the main reason to be there was to wait for a blind date to show up. A student freelancer that only operates every now and then by the name of Daniella.
As I did not have the whole evening to spend, I asked her to hurry and meet me at the entrance of the Nutibara pool club. It was 7.30 pm when I called her and she said that she would be there at 8.00. At 9.15 she finally showed up! Although I was very pissed off for her being being late, I melted at the sight of her. A very young and very stunning beauty. Almost 6 feet high, with tits that are not to big and more important, a butt that is not big. Maybe the butt will grow much bigger eventually, because she was stiil young, but now it is super. We introduced ourselves and I started the negociations because I was really in a hurry. Inspite of her age, she negociated as a seasoned worker. I agreed with the 80K she asked (too expensive I was told, later) and we started discussing the hotel. As I saw a couple of hotels in the street (Maracaibo?), I offered to go to one of them. She refused and wanted a more expensive one. I told her I didn´t see the sense of it as SHE will only have less than one hour before she has to go to a party. Well, she said, after partying she would like to have a nice hotel to spend the rest of the night in.
I told her I will not do that and asked about her special activities to entertain me. She gives excellent BJ, she said. That´s nice I said, but I want a BBBJ and after that I don´t mind if it´s going to be a CFJ. She acted as if she was stung by a hornet when she heard I said BBBJ. She started lamenting, calling some virgin and someone else and asked Why? I told her that that´s the way I think a fucking sesion should begin. Again she called for those other people and tried to convince me that her BJ was very special. To cut a long story short, I really went to shoot some pool shortly after that.

Two days ago, I was lucky again. The missus planned a trip to the zoo and as a whole bunch of kids will join her, it was a good excuse again not to join her, because she knows I can stand crying and screaming kids.
Of I went to the center again and it turned out that everything was closed because of the elections the day before! Someone showed me to a cathouse/MP at the corner of Argentina-Oriental. There was only one girl present but what the heck! I have a rare opportunity to go out by myself and I was willing to bargain with my preferences.
Laura, the only girl, presented herself and she wasn´t bad looking. About 22 years old I think and with still a good and firm body. Almost forgot, the price was 30k for 30 minutes and 40k for an hour!
Anyway, Laura started a massage and within 5 minutes she concentrated her actions on my dick. When it was half erected she reached for the f*/%@ condom and I asked her to leave that. No way! So she gave another 5 minutes of CBJ and then commenced with WOT. As I felt that my erection was fading away I changed position and after another 5 minutes I had my orgasm. No explosion nor other breathtaking experience!
I left, again frustrated, because, again, no BBBJ. So please, Medellin mongers, give me info, name and location where I can have at least a decent BBBJ!!

Paisan80
06-03-06, 02:00
Here is Club VIP contact info:

Address: Cra 41 # 21 Sur 161
Phone: (4) 313 7009
(240) 235 9488 (INTL Line)

Don't know why Kicker and C-Nut are not passing out this info. I checked out the place and agree with the previous comments and are Right On! VIP's $40 room is like the MM $75 room. This place is spectacular and really like the security.

I believe all the rooms have private baths, so you will not have 'el gordo' problems. :)

El Paisan

Sean EZ
06-03-06, 17:20
Went to Mangos and BLounge (in Poblado). Mango had a bad ratio and was full of guys and we left, and BLounge somebody told us was supposed to be good but turned out more of a rave type crowd and the bouncer told us that most girls in there were accompanied by guys. We plan to check out the car show today, supposed to be crowded. We haven't been to any of the P4P places yet - report will follow. Does anyone have info on the upscale clubs or lounges in the area? thanks.

Night Cat
06-04-06, 02:28
Surfer,
You are right about not having children, or not having them until you are secure in your marriage.
...
Alot of older (40-50) mongers do not realize that it is implicit that when you marry a good girl (20-30)years younger, you must give her children. I am not particularly fond of the little buggers (too narcisistic)but I have always understood this.
Interesting that you would put it this way (I'm assuming you mean that you're too narcissistic to be interested in kids). I, on the other hand, like to tell people that the reason I don't have kids is because I'm NOT narcissistic ENOUGH!

Lastly, If anyone is still reading I have never seen any talk on these boards about the "Mongers Curse". This applies to those of us who have daughters who are 18 and older. Besides marriage and disease this is big reason to retire or up the age of the women you pick up.
Could you be more specific about this "Mongers Curse?" Are you saying that a man's mongering habits may die down once he has a grown daughter, because then he starts to develop a "fatherly" regard for the WGs?

Kickboxer151
06-04-06, 05:13
Ok guys now I'm here now at the vip in front of a few other guys of course they are far much uglier than I. However they have more chips!

Vip is not just the name of the place but the standup service they are offering. Example: be a smart American and see if the place that you wish to stay is going to give you their made up conversion rate or the rate that is posted on the website www.xe.com

Now example; if your staying at a place and lets just say your bill is $2000.00 us dollars and the international exchange rate is 2450.15 (current) then your bill will be $1632. 55

There has been rumor that another location here in Medellin is taking a clear and unethical advantage of Americans! Surpisingly this establishment is not owned by colombians! Hmmmmmmmm imagine that!

So. Lets see what the bill would be on their typical "our foreign exchange rate" at 2200. 00. Pesos to the dollar. So the difference is 500, 300. 00 pesos which translates into $204. 19! Of being over charged! These guys are blatantly taking advantage of our ignorance!

Conclusion: if they are charging you an American dollar price they are not giving you the current international exchange rate! Remember they cannot deposit american dollars into a colombian bank unless it is first converted to pesos! They get the current rate! So they are basically skimming off the top by an average of 10% (hidden charge) or I would like to say our cost of ignorance and not being well informed!

Be informed Americans! Travel abroad and use the power of the american dollar in your best interest not shchisters trying to take advantage of us!

Escort King
06-04-06, 19:18
Ok guys now I'm here now at the vip in front of a few other guys of course they are far much uglier than I. However they have more chips!

Vip is not just the name of the place but the standup service they are offering. Example: be a smart American and see if the place that you wish to stay is going to give you their made up conversion rate or the rate that is posted on the website www.xe.com

Now example; if your staying at a place and lets just say your bill is $2000.00 us dollars and the international exchange rate is 2450.15 (current) then your bill will be $1632. 55

There has been rumor that another location here in Medellin is taking a clear and unethical advantage of Americans! Surpisingly this establishment is not owned by colombians! Hmmmmmmmm imagine that!

So. Lets see what the bill would be on their typical "our foreign exchange rate" at 2200. 00. Pesos to the dollar. So the difference is 500, 300. 00 pesos which translates into $204. 19! Of being over charged! These guys are blatantly taking advantage of our ignorance!

Conclusion: if they are charging you an American dollar price they are not giving you the current international exchange rate! Remember they cannot deposit american dollars into a colombian bank unless it is first converted to pesos! They get the current rate! So they are basically skimming off the top by an average of 10% (hidden charge) or I would like to say our cost of ignorance and not being well informed!

Be informed Americans! Travel abroad and use the power of the american dollar in your best interest not shchisters trying to take advantage of us!
If you are quoted a price in USD and pay in USD the exchange rate has nothing to do with it.... all hotels have a house rate - that's why you use the ATM or cambo casios (sic)....

Escort King
06-04-06, 19:20
You can use the printable converter at www.gocurrency.com so you have a rough idea of what things cost

Tom 33
06-04-06, 21:40
You wouldn't have a financial interest in the other place now would you?

And your post makes no sense. EK hit the nail on the head.

Paisan80
06-04-06, 21:50
Exactly! If you want the best bang for your dollar, pay in Pesos. You should apply this when paying for Girls and when paying for your lodging. Especially when the conversion rate gives the dollar an advantage.

Look at the MM price for an airport pick-up, $30 USD, this converts to about 74K COP. The going rate for a taxi is 45K COP for pick-up or drop-off. That is a 30K COP loss, which could be used for 1 mayorista or SD Street Girl romp.

When you get a quote for lodging, ask for it in COP and compare it to Torre Poblado, which is about $115K. The accomodations at TP are comparable to MM with more privacy.

El Paisan

Paisan80
06-04-06, 22:15
I think the point Kicker is trying to make is to BE AWARE of the current conversion rate. Don't let establishments use a "made up" (outdated) rate to their advantage. You can easily lose 10% (as in his example).

I always recommend getting prices in Pesos, you are in Colombia afterall.

El Paisan


You wouldn't have a financial interest in the other place now would you?

And your post makes no sense. EK hit the nail on the head.

Escort King
06-05-06, 00:58
I agree if they use their own exchange rate to determine what you have to pay in pesos then go out and get them at a better rate and save the cash... all services like hotel pick up etc. are premium but exist for people who do not have any Spanish etc. - there is nothing stopping you getting a cab at the airport... the few bucks just offsets the anxiety for some... or the pick up from a hottie that can blow you on the way...

Tom 33
06-05-06, 02:29
Agreed. Use Pesos. Find a home bank that doesn't charge for ATM withdrawals, and only use the ATM for Pesos.

I have a better idea for airport transportation. There is a minibus that runs from the airport to Hotel Botero Plaza in Centro that costs 5K pesos. A taxi from there to Poblado costs less than 5K.

MiamiHeatLuver
06-05-06, 03:13
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Paisan80
06-05-06, 04:30
Tom,

Do you know the schedule for the bus? How long is the bus ride, does it make any stops on its way? If it takes too long, the savings may not be worth it.


Agreed. Use Pesos. Find a home bank that doesn't charge for ATM withdrawals, and only use the ATM for Pesos.

I have a better idea for airport transportation. There is a minibus that runs from the airport to Hotel Botero Plaza in Centro that costs 5K pesos. A taxi from there to Poblado costs less than 5K.

Kickboxer151
06-05-06, 10:54
If you feel good about an establishment taking 10% on your money with their "created" current exchange rate then so be it. I as an American dont want to feel like I'm being taken advantage as many others on this board would agree if they took a little closer look at their bill the next time they checked out.

Again, My example. Would you rather pay $1000.00 or $1100.00 for the same exact service?

KB151

Lima Busy
06-05-06, 19:00
Could you be more specific about this "Mongers Curse?" Are you saying that a man's mongering habits may die down once he has a grown daughter, because then he starts to develop a "fatherly" regard for the WGs?
Not at all! Purist's (I am one) do not regard "johns" as "Mongers" and hence the "Mongers curse" would not apply to them.

The "Mongers curse" applies to those of us that regularly date or pick up women many years younger than us. The "Curse" itself is that "your daughter" who loves and respects you, will view your behavior as "normal" or "acceptable" and end up in a series or pattern of relationships with older men who inevitably "dump" them for another younger women.

Although the "Mongers" predilection for young women will not change (a probable psychological flaw) a good father will change his behavior or failing that move to a country where it is the "Norm" and out of the day to day view of his daughter.

While we impart the same behavior patterns on our son’s, society does not view it that way; hence there is no “curse” in that situation.

The real predicament occurs when you have a daughter in that same country you moved too and it is the “norm”!

Q Bert
06-05-06, 20:09
I have to post answers to some questions someone PM'd me because it was too long of a response (he had lots of questions). Maybe they could be of some use to some others as well.

Questions about massage houses:

The one massage place I went to was called Loutrons. I don't know about the other ones but I can tell you exactly how this one works.

First you go in cover-free what is basically a house and sit down in a waiting area which is a gazebo in the huge back yard area. You can have a beer or coffee in the waiting area which is actually pretty nice inside. The girls come in one by one in a white robe which they take off in front of you in swim suits. The lady at the bar introduces them by name. Suggestion: go about 2PM on weekdays since that is when the college girls first get there and the selection is better. After they are all come one by one, they all come back in for a line-up then leave. You can pick one or leave with no charge.

After you've picked one then the girl at the bar "calls in" your selection. You can casually finish your beer or coffee then the girl comes back and escorts you to your room. I didn't see a jacuzzi in any of the rooms but they all have showers which you can shower before or after or both. You have one hour. The girl will join you. After the shower (if you chose one) then the girl with get undressed and massage you, suck you, then fuck you..normally in that order.

The whole thing is about 160 pesos (or ~$70 US). I usually tip the girls but you don't have to. The amount is up to you but I give about 20 pesos.

Question regarding anal sex:

I don't know about anal but I heard most of the girls do not offer that in Medellin. I am not really into it so I didn't ask anyone but I think the rule of thumb is no but it never hurts to ask.

Question regarding photos of girls:

Photos/videos are entirely up to the girl. Some LOVE the camera and some hate it. I don't think that there is a rule of thumb here. I didn't bring my bulky video camera but just my digital camera to take still pictures and small video clips with the girl's permission of course. I can't speak for the management at Aussie's Mansion but I would assume that they don't care if you take pictures or not if you get permission from the girls. The Vikings were there during my stay making all kinds of crazy videos and the girls they were with didn't seem to mind.

Party buses to/from Medellin:

I also don't know anything about the party buses but I wouldn't mind learning that myself if you find out more then please let me know. I would ask someone like Aussie Greg. He knows all about tours, etc.

Questions about condoms:

As far as condoms are concerned, most of the girls have them but I would bring some for sure because some of the semi pros might not. You can also buy them since there are plently of stores in the area that sell them but it's a hassle if you get there late or something after the stores close or want to get busy before you've had a chance to go. I'd bring some....lots maybe!

I apologize in advance for bad grammar, misspellings, etc. I do not have enough time to proof-read today!

CT

Tiny 12
06-05-06, 22:39
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Escort King
06-06-06, 00:00
If you feel good about an establishment taking 10% on your money with their "created" current exchange rate then so be it. I as an American dont want to feel like I'm being taken advantage as many others on this board would agree if they took a little closer look at their bill the next time they checked out.

Again, My example. Would you rather pay $1000.00 or $1100.00 for the same exact service?

KB151

again why are you paying more? if I am paying $1000 that's what I pay... if however I am paying 2,400,000 pesos I would be looking to get that from the bank or ATM over a few days

Tom 33
06-06-06, 01:07
The minibus leaves every half hour from the airport and from Hotel Botero Plaza to go back to the airport. They stop a few times but not for long. The trip takes close to the same time by taxi and is much more safe. No one is going to try to rob a bus on the way from the airport. A friend of mine who lives in MDE and owns a house near Parque Lleras was abducted from a taxi on the way from the airport in Jan. of this year. The buses stop running around 8:00 pm.

Kicker-your point is bogus. Hang it up. No one is forcing you to exchange money anywhere. If you don't like the rate offered, exchange money elsewhere.

Kickboxer151
06-06-06, 02:59
again why are you paying more? if I am paying $1000 that's what I pay... if however I am paying 2,400,000 pesos I would be looking to get that from the bank or ATM over a few daysExample: They will tell you its $1000.00 and then they use their conversion rate and it is different when you look at you bank statement!

THERE! Clear enough for you?

Medellin Executive
06-06-06, 03:45
Hey

Can you tell us who is rumored to be taking advantage of this 10 percent over charge?


If you are quoted a price in USD and pay in USD the exchange rate has nothing to do with it.... all hotels have a house rate - that's why you use the ATM or cambo casios (sic)....

Scooby1
06-06-06, 05:24
The minibus leaves every half hour from the airport and from Hotel Botero Plaza to go back to the airport. They stop a few times but not for long. The trip takes close to the same time by taxi and is much more safe. No one is going to try to rob a bus on the way from the airport. A friend of mine who lives in MDE and owns a house near Parque Lleras was abducted from a taxi on the way from the airport in Jan. of this year. The buses stop running around 8:00 pm.

Kicker-your point is bogus. Hang it up. No one is forcing you to exchange money anywhere. If you don't like the rate offered, exchange money elsewhere.

Thats interesting about your friend being kidnaped. The taxi I was in was going so fast the person doing the kidnapping would have to have one of those hoverboards portrayed in the movie Back to the Future

Escort King
06-06-06, 06:33
put it this way if Salome was blowing me on the ride I doubt if I would notice I was kidnapped until she stopped and would pay them too much to let her keep going that they would let me go....

Tom 33
06-06-06, 08:49
Two guys on a motorcycle pulled up alongside the taxi with a gun. The taxi driver was in on it. The driver stopped while my friend was hollering not to stop(in Spanish). The guy with the gun got into the taxi and off they went like a bat out of hell. My friend started to really worry when the cab started going back up the hill. The bad guys are up the hill. As soon as the taxi slowed enough, he jumped out and ran.

I like the bus.

Surfer
06-06-06, 16:13
Some apparently are not. To simplify it a bit: he is NOT talking about exchanging money. He is talking about establishments that try and maximize their earnings on SALES by quoting a dollar rate (sasy $50 per4 night) then using a bogus conversion rate when you pay in pesos (as you must do under colombian law).

Unless Tom has evidence to back up his accusation that kickboxwer has a financial interest in VIP, he should retract it. I met KB two weeks ago (in Tijuana) and he was talking up the Mansion then. Apaarently he likes VIP better now. He has a career and is a very generous tipper suggesting he is not impecunious. Fluently bilingual guy who treats locals and working girls with the utmost respect. Reminds me quite a bit of Roberto. I seriously doubt he is a shill for VIP.

Regarding Tom's advice to take a bus from the Rio Negro airport, I think that is absurd. First your fellow bus passengers are WAY more likely to rob you than groups of motorcycles are to kidnap you. Call a TRUSTED taxi driver (I HIGHLY recommend Hector-his number is on Scooby's cheat sheet). Then Tom's plan would have you unload from the bus IN CENTRO carrying all your gear. Like THAT won't attract attention from ladrones (thieves).

I must wonder whether Tom has a financial interest in the bus company.

ClemsonTigers: The question and answer to the newbie is appreciated and timely as I was debating whether to respond to the list of questions he PM'd me. Thanks for doing it. I reiterate that I meant you no offense in my prior post about the proliferation of gringo owned B&Bs for mongers but was merely decrying changes in my beloved COlombia that I much lament. .

Q Bert
06-06-06, 16:33
ClemsonTigers: The question and answer to the newbie is appreciated and timely as I was debating whether to respond to the list of questions he PM'd me. Thanks for doing it. I reiterate that I meant you no offense in my prior post about the proliferation of gringo owned B&Bs for mongers but was merely decrying changes in my beloved COlombia that I much lament. .

No problem at all. No offense taken and I feel your pain! I also try and help when I can. I've asked enough newbie questions in my day to take a lifetime to answer. Feels good to give back! Happy hunting!

CT

Cubanut
06-06-06, 16:38
I think an awful lot of time has been given to transportation options just to get down the mountain from the airport. But in all fairness I would agree that it is warranted due to concerns of safety and cost.

I have walked out of the airport and taken the yellow taxis and the white ones as well. I prefer the white ones because they are newer vehicles and more likely to have air conditioning. Remember that YOU should choose what taxi you get in NOT the guys hussling outside the terminal. The average cost for the ride down the mountain to the Poblado/Envigado area is $45,000 for the yellow taxi and $50,000 for the white taxi.

I have made pickup arrangements through the Mansion/Castillo. The cost is in dollars $30usd (was $25usd until just recently). Also just recently is the added cost of $13usd if you want a beautiful Paisa to be there with your name on sheet waiting for you at the airport and to accompany you down the mountain. I'm not sure why they started charging for this (the girls part) but I suspect it came about due to some guys not giving the girls any business after arriving at the Mansion/Castillo and so this covers the girls time. The drivers are taxis that are trusted and used by the Mansion/Castillo constantly so you are in good hands.

There are other private pickups you can arrange (look through the previous posts) and I believe Club VIP will also be offering pickups. I have only used the private pickups by the Mansion/Castillo.

I have never taken the $5,000 COP mini bus and I probably will not anytime soon. The problem is the mini bus stops running at 8pm which is before my regular flight gets in. However depending on if I arrived early and how much luggage I had with me I would consider using it. For example if I arrived on an early flight around noon and had only a carry on I'd hop the bus and then grab a taxi from Botero for another $5,000 COP. But if I arrived and had 2 pieces of luggage and my camera bag/laptop to boot I would not opt to be making a transfer from mini bus to taxi. I'd spend the extra pesos $35,00 to $40,000 cop and go direct by yellow or white tai from the airport.

One thing I don't want to do also is arrive later 6 or 7pm and spend time stopping at places like the mini bus does. I want to jump into action that night ASAP. Tom33 says the minibus takes about the same time to get down from the mountain to Botero as a taxi. I would say though that since the mini bus does stop here and there you can tack on 10 to 15 minutes travel time but I go to Poblado which would be another 12 to 15 minutes in very good traffic but longer in midday traffic. My guess would be in the evening you would be taking on about 30 minutes but in midday you can be tacking on a total of 40 to 60 minutes of travel time using the minibus/taxi routine. Again it's a matter of the importance of your time vs money saved.

Also in midday on a hot day you may want to opt for an air conditioned taxi (the white ones) or if Greg or Robert pick you up in their car (and not a yellow taxis they normally send). One question here to Tom33 is if the mini bus is airconditioned.

Another question to Tom33 I'd like to ask if he knows what type of taxi did his friend use (yellow/white) and what time did the incident with his friend occur (daylight or nightfall). I also think that a lone person is more of a target than lets say two or three passengers.

I'm sure that sometime in the future another robbery will ocur in a taxi (yellow or white) and/or a minibus will crash and people will be hurt and/or a Mansion/Castillo girl will puke on a guys crotch when he spurts in her mouth. But this is life and we can't be afraid to live it as we like, Right?

Cheers,

Cubanut

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.

Paisan80
06-06-06, 18:09
Ask yourself this question. As a foreign traveler, you should benefit when your currency is stronger than the Peso. When you travel to Colombia (or any other destination), it is beneficial to get prices (quotes) and pay in the currency of your destination. If an establishment quotes in US $ and the $ is strong at that moment, the establishment will benefit. Sometime significanlty as Kicker is trying to explain. This hurts you as the traveler.

Some might argue that these places need to adjust for $ fluctuation, but then why don't the other Hotels do the same. I've stayed at several aparta-hotels this year and always get prices between 100K to 115K COP (including IVA). Between this time the $ has fluctuated between 2200 to 2500.

Take a look at the Mansion Room #8, they are asking $70 US, that converts to about 170K COP, plus I beleive that they now charge IVA on top of that. That room is barely worth 100K. Go and compare it to what you get at Torre Poblado or La Provincia. Be smart out there. Get prices in COP and compare. If its your 1st time, then maybe the extra charge is part of your learning experience.

As for taxis, it is fine for these places to put a small upcharge of maybe 10K, but 30K is excessive. The MM used to list taxi service in COP. I'm sure if all of a sudden the US $ became weak to the COP, the prices would once again be listed in COP. Be consistent!


Some apparently are not. To simplify it a bit: he is NOT talking about exchanging money. He is talking about establishments that try and maximize their earnings on SALES by quoting a dollar rate (sasy $50 per4 night) then using a bogus conversion rate when you pay in pesos (as you must do under colombian law).

Unless Tom has evidence to back up his accusation that kickboxwer has a financial interest in VIP, he should retract it. I met KB two weeks ago (in Tijuana) and he was talking up the Mansion then. Apaarently he likes VIP better now. He has a career and is a very generous tipper suggesting he is not impecunious. Fluently bilingual guy who treats locals and working girls with the utmost respect. Reminds me quite a bit of Roberto. I seriously doubt he is a shill for VIP.

Regarding Tom's advice to take a bus from the Rio Negro airport, I think that is absurd. First your fellow bus passengers are WAY more likely to rob you than groups of motorcycles are to kidnap you. Call a TRUSTED taxi driver (I HIGHLY recommend Hector-his number is on Scooby's cheat sheet). Then Tom's plan would have you unload from the bus IN CENTRO carrying all your gear. Like THAT won't attract attention from ladrones (thieves).

I must wonder whether Tom has a financial interest in the bus company.

ClemsonTigers: The question and answer to the newbie is appreciated and timely as I was debating whether to respond to the list of questions he PM'd me. Thanks for doing it. I reiterate that I meant you no offense in my prior post about the proliferation of gringo owned B&Bs for mongers but was merely decrying changes in my beloved COlombia that I much lament. .

Tom 33
06-06-06, 18:32
And I love you, too.