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BeersTerry
06-06-06, 19:16
Just wondering if we are making mountains out of mole hills.
The prices on the MM website are quoted in U.S. dollars. I expected to pay the price quoted in U.S. dollars.
FYI The prices for Club VIP are also quoted in U.S. dollars.
The other stuff, I have no first hand knowledge about.
Kickboxer151
06-06-06, 21:17
Bottom line is that we are all pretty much americans here and have to share stories that would be in "our" best interest! I just say it as it is...... If I hurt someones feelings or uncover a hidden agenda by a propietor in Colombia to take advantage of "us" americans then so be it!!!
I have a GREAT $$$$$$$ business and I do not need to talk up a business for a free breakfast or invitation to a young special lady. I'm just an average guy like you all on this site trying to get clear and uncensored tips on how to maximize my stay in Colombia.
There is many places to stay in Medellin. HOWEVER, I feel (my opinion) the VIP Club owned and ran by him and Albert is exactly what I"M PERSONALLY looking for. These guys are 1000% first class and I have rebooked and PREPAID for my return next month! Now, possibly this isnt a fit for you but then again you probably cant get a room since it is completey sold out next month during my stay. Scheesh this place hasnt even opened yet and its booked! What does that tell you?
These guys Tom & Albert know how to run a Business and I believe as a business owner they deserve kudos!!!
Ok that is enough about the VIP Club for now. :-) Enjoy the photos!
I don't want anyone thinking I'm getting $10.00 off my room rate. LOL
I don't think the buses are air conditioned. You are correct in your time estimates. The area near the Hotel Botero Plaza is quite safe until after 10 pm or so. It is 2 blocks south and 1 1/2 blocks west of where Avenida Junin runs into Parque Bolivar. The Avenida Junin pedestrian mall area is pretty safe between Parque Bolivar and Exito even at night.
I don't remember what color the taxi was. I believe that it happened between 7 and 9 pm. He was alone. You can call 444-0000 from the airport for a taxi. They will give you the number of the cab they have available for you. I'm guessing that they will probably have a taxi or two at the airport.
Kickboxer151
06-06-06, 23:39
Ok Guys,
I want to just throw this out there.
Taking a tour throughout Colombia (driving) is not the safest thing to do! Why?? Hmmmmm well lets just think about this. Where does all the guierrlas live and train? In the city limits?? In the mountains? Outside the city lines? Furthermore. Why is there so many military check points? What are they looking for? Or what are they trying to keep out of the cities?
Traveling on a bus tour with a bunch of gringos/americans on a bus is not my idea of fun! And certainly not safe! cann someone say "target"?
Whos the tour guide? Does he or she have significant power to get me or my buddies out of trouble if we ran into it?
Remember we have one life!! I rather die fucking in Colombia than die being tortured or forced to be part of the Guierrla movement.
Thats my opinion. Whats yours?
Hey Tom 33 ...
I dig hanging out in that pedestrian mall area on Junin ... but do be careful at night, especially after the stores start to close ... it starts to get dark and lonely.
Parque Bolivar is a place you always have to keep your guard ... at night especially.
I think a seasoned traveler trying to save a few pesos can use the bus from Rio Negro (airport) to the city ... but really, a once a year traveler, newbie to the city, etc should just take a trusted taxi.
Really, if you just traveled 1000s of miles to get to Medellin, the extra $15 might be worth it to arrive in comfort ... and safely.
I also had a friend robbed by a taxi and his "boys" from the airport ... he was with his Colombian wife for a visit to the city.
I'm a fan of Hector.
You should probably stay out of Parque Bolivar at night.
There is a bit of night life on Avenida Junin. My ultra-cautious Paisa novia has no problem strolling there at midnight.
I can't argue with you about the bus. I just prefer the bus. It has more room than those little taxis. And I feel more safe in the bus even though Surfer says I should worry about getting robbed by my fellow passengers.
My buddy drove three Americans from Medillin to Cartagena and they said it was the best trip of their life. Very scenic and beutifull. Atlthough I question their motives for the trip (3 large bags went and only 1 came back) I would not mind taking a road trip from Medillin to Bogata.
1st bus leaves downton Med at 4:30 a.m. Last bus of the day leaves the airport at 8:00 p.m. No air conditioning and the bus can become crowded. I always felt safe taking the bus.
Combuses S.C.A.
Cra 50 Calle 53-13
Medellin
511-4023
231-9681
The bus is not an option for guys arriving on the AA flight from MIA as it arrives later in the evening. I also must admit that I like Hector, and would like to see him get more business. But I get no kickback from him. Ditto in Cali where I introduce my taxista de confianza to friends I know will treat him well (like Ricker). That is a win-win.
In sum, the only advantage I can see of taking the bus is saving $10 or so (second advantage is chance to meet nice nonpros I suppose). I KNOW it is slower, and I strongly doubt it is "safer". I would DEFINITELY opt for a taxi if I had lots of luggage, cameras, Ipods etc with me. Nuff said.
Re lodging: I value privacy and am unlikely to stay at any organized monger place. IF I did so, it would be primarily to hang out with Roberto. Don't know the VIP guys, but Roberto is a unique guy and I STRONGLY doubt these other guys have his way with the chicas. KIckboxer knows what I mean: Roberto takes the term Suave to new heights. Cheverisimo ******! [Spanish for "man" but was censored LOL!]
Australiano Greg
06-09-06, 08:56
Duote,
Hector carnt even handle the work that he has got from us and gets his friends in to help out, he is as busy as he wants.
The Aussie.
The bus is not an option for guys arriving on the AA flight from MIA as it arrives later in the evening. I also must admit that I like Hector, and would like to see him get more business. But I get no kickback from him. Ditto in Cali where I introduce my taxista de confianza to friends I know will treat him well (like Ricker). That is a win-win.
In sum, the only advantage I can see of taking the bus is saving $10 or so (second advantage is chance to meet nice nonpros I suppose). I KNOW it is slower, and I strongly doubt it is "safer". I would DEFINITELY opt for a taxi if I had lots of luggage, cameras, Ipods etc with me. Nuff said.
Re lodging: I value privacy and am unlikely to stay at any organized monger place. IF I did so, it would be primarily to hang out with Roberto. Don't know the VIP guys, but Roberto is a unique guy and I STRONGLY doubt these other guys have his way with the chicas. KIckboxer knows what I mean: Roberto takes the term Suave to new heights. Cheverisimo ******! [Spanish for "man" but was censored LOL!]
Kickboxer151
06-09-06, 10:02
The bus is not an option for guys arriving on the AA flight from MIA as it arrives later in the evening. I also must admit that I like Hector, and would like to see him get more business. But I get no kickback from him. Ditto in Cali where I introduce my taxista de confianza to friends I know will treat him well (like Ricker). That is a win-win.
In sum, the only advantage I can see of taking the bus is saving $10 or so (second advantage is chance to meet nice nonpros I suppose). I KNOW it is slower, and I strongly doubt it is "safer". I would DEFINITELY opt for a taxi if I had lots of luggage, cameras, Ipods etc with me. Nuff said.
Re lodging: I value privacy and am unlikely to stay at any organized monger place. IF I did so, it would be primarily to hang out with Roberto. Don't know the VIP guys, but Roberto is a unique guy and I STRONGLY doubt these other guys have his way with the chicas. KIckboxer knows what I mean: Roberto takes the term Suave to new heights. Cheverisimo ******! [Spanish for "man" but was censored LOL!]Thanks Surfer. Yes I have to agree, Robert is a very nice professional guy. Never has he disrepected me or anyone that I know or read about! He's a classy guy that knows how to cater to people and knows how to difuse any volatile situation! Ie. Resolving "guests" issues.
As for Hector. He as all of us need more business. Furthermore he is 100% independent and works for himself and not tied to any agency or organization. So he needs and wants as much work as he can handle. In fact he just bought a new apartment and is married and raising his son! Good guys like Hector need a break. So give him a call at 300-786-1119. Or from the USA you dial 011-57-300-786-1119. He speaks great english as he once used to live in the states. VERY HONEST stand up guy. Again he is loyal to himself and his family!
KB151
I'll second that about Hector ... GREAT guy!
By the way, his father passed away not too long ago ... wish him well when you see him.
Robert from el Castillo ... wrote the book on SUUUUUAVE!
Hey SURFER .... I'm heading to Cali again manana ... can't thank you enough for introducing me to the taxista de Cali ... also a very cool dude ... he took my brother out all night long on a monger excursion all over Cali ... awesome!
Suerte!
I Highly Recommend Greg's Mansion. The Luxury Rooms Are Well Worth The Price. 1st Class Accomodations I Must Say. He Could Probably Charge Hundreds Of Dollars In Another Part Of The World.
The Luxury Rooms, The Staff, And The Security Alone Are Worth The Price Of Admission. I Was There In January, Great Time I Had. The Aussie Will Give You Some Advice, Take You Out On The Town For A Night, Point You In The Right Dirrection, Give You Some Addresses, Hook You Up With Trustable Cabies, And Your On Your Own; Just Consider The Aussie's Guidance As A Bonus. If You Are A First Time Traveler To Medellin, The Mansion Is A Must. Get Your Education There Before You Even Consider Venturing Out On Your Own.
Hi,
I sincerely appreciate your reports, but...
Would you please STOP capitalizing the first letter of EVERY word in your reports!
It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.
On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: Thank You!
Jackson
Kickboxer151
06-10-06, 20:46
I Highly Recommend Greg's Mansion. The Luxury Rooms Are Well Worth The Price. 1st Class Accomodations I Must Say. He Could Probably Charge Hundreds Of Dollars In Another Part Of The World.
The Luxury Rooms, The Staff, And The Security Alone Are Worth The Price Of Admission. I Was There In January, Great Time I Had. The Aussie Will Give You Some Advice, Take You Out On The Town For A Night, Point You In The Right Dirrection, Give You Some Addresses, Hook You Up With Trustable Cabies, And Your On Your Own; Just Consider The Aussie's Guidance As A Bonus. If You Are A First Time Traveler To Medellin, The Mansion Is A Must. Get Your Education There Before You Even Consider Venturing Out On Your Own.
Hi,
I sincerely appreciate your reports, but...
Would you please STOP capitalizing the first letter of EVERY word in your reports!
It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.
On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: Thank You!
JacksonRutly: You only have 1 post here? Your story states that you were there in January? BRO that was 6 months ago. I have been to Medellin 8 times since January. I have been told I'm a platinum traveler. So what would this make you? How do you become an authority after visiting the mansion (aussie) six months ago? What took you so long to write your posts?
If your going to travel all the way to Colombia from the USA. Here is a few good reasons you might want to stay at the BRAND new VIP CLUB.
1) Vip Club: Huge place that is spread out with new amenities.
2) Owned by an American that truly understands the term "5 star service"
3) Tom (owner) and Albert (GM) sincerely take a back seat to your fun. ie.... not getting more drunk that the guests they are taking out. Front of the line privledges at local clubs. Ps. mangos is not the only club to go to in Medellin. Furthermore Mangos is more of a date club.
4) VIP does not ask for the ladys number that you met and brought back to the place where your paying your hard earned money to stay to have her "as part of the lineup) when you leave Medellin. :-(
5) Vip Club does not have the reputation of a "puta" hangout just in case you might want to bring over a "normal" lady.
6) Huge security gate manned 24 hours a day! No one and I mean no one can just walk up to the front door.
7) Each VIP room has telephones that call out and from room to room for free!
8) VIP has larger refriderators that are fully stocked (full bar) with bottles of whisky,rum,vodka, (other alcohols),redbulls,gatorade,water,coke,. They also have other items that they give complimentary. Ps the prices are not overly inflatted. I think they are only marked up 10%. The owner and Albert are not penny pinching guys. Having a full selection is great when you have a hot chick in your room.
9)They give you the current exchange rate. NOTE: Always pay in pesos at the current rate. One of my previous reports proved how "other" establishments charge you the american dollar rate that is not in your best interest. Remember the dollar is powerfull in Colombia. This is why we come there right? Of course they are showing you on the websites the dollar rate since this is what you understand. However Tom and Albert make your USA dollar goes alot farther!
10) Albert is truly a stand up guy and he speaks perfect spanish and english (colombian&german) as he has lived in Colombia/Medellin for over 13 years. He is connected very well with the locals. Robert (El Castillo) is equally a suave guy! Can't say enough about Robert as he is a very nice professional guy as well!
11) The VIP is very spread out and the rooms are less expensive than what you would get at the Mansion (aussie gregs). NOTE; Photos
12) Not the same ole putas hanging out with a fixed inflated rate to be with them. I have heard a recent story of a guy that left the Mansion (aussies') after not being happy with the service and was welcomed with open arms at the VIP. He told me that the girls were charging 200,000 pesos for 1 hour!! The other "dancer" wanted $300,000 just for a strip tease no sex!! What the hell is this about? Kinda makes you wonder about the roomer of a cut that is being handed over to who??? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... :-(
Conclusion: There are many places to stay in Medellin for a great time. To each his own. I'm just tired of hearing all these sugar coated brown nosing threads. I think my contoversial thread will bring to the surface a clear and balanced look at the mansion / aussie greg!
PS: This is my opinion. Whats yours?
Kickboxer151
06-11-06, 04:10
VIP Photos. This place is a truly upscale place..... REMEMBER. I get no kickbacks nor do I need them . I have a great lifestyle in San Diego , California and dont need to promote a place for a few bucks off. However I just hope I can get a reservation since I'm promoting this place. The place was 100% booked when I was there 2 weeks ago and it hasnt even started advertising. I guess "word of mouth" is all any real business needs to have.
Hola amigos!
I am heading to Medellin later this month, since its my first time, I was going to stay at the Hotel Poblado Plaza, since it was near the Ovideo Mall. I might look switch hotels once I there. Does VIP have a web site?
How far by taxi is Loutron, Energy and New life from the Hotel Pobalabo Plaza?
Whats a good club at night other than mangos in the area?
Where can I get a good printed map once I land?
Is there a taxi stand like in Costa Rica ? Or just pick a yellow or white one?
What is the most popular bills and coins to carry for riding in the taxi, do the taxi's in El Poblado take us dollars? I understand that I will need pesos for the ride from the airport.
Mucho pregunta, grazias.
Thespy
I have never been to the mansion so I can not really compare the two. I did stay in VIP for 2 weeks and I have to say it is very nice. My room was huge I mean I actually mesaured it out by counting the floor tiles and it was roughly 1000 sq ft. I was staying in a suite in the Belfort and was paying almost double the price of VIP for a 500 Sq ft room. The place is brand new. BRAND NEW. My room was off to the side of the house, very private. The fridge is brand new FULL size and stocked to the hilt. Me and KB were looking at the prices and they were marked up actualley a little less then 10%. The belfort will sell the a mini bottle of rum for 25.000 pesos. They charged me $116 dollors to do 3 loads of laundry. The VIP has complimentary laundry service daily. Oh yea and any club in Medillin you want to go to. Albert gets you in no problem. We must have hit 6-7 clubs and no matter how many people we had we all got right in and got a table with bottle service promptly. Like I said I have never been to "The Mansion" but I have heard such bad stories about the place and Greg in general that I seriously doubt that I would ever go.
The only downside to the VIP is that it is to good. Once guys start seeing that place and staying there it is going to be imposible to get a room. I will put it like this. Even if I can not get a room at the VIP in July I will be hagning out there regularly.
Just joined this site, $12 for the year, couldn't resist. FYI I have been around and wouldn't consider myself a green horn. But not an expert on S.A. or C.A.
Been to Panama (way too much american influence), mexico (way too close to home), Argentina (beautiful city B.A. is very metropolitan but not the beauty), and of coarse Colombia. The funny thing about Panama every beautiful woman I honed in on happened to be from Colombia, many from Medellin. They go to Panama to earn more income. A working girl in Medellin can earn $20-$25 a session. In panama $40-$60. A hamburger, a beer, a hotel, and everything else is about 30% to 40% more compared to Colombia. Simply said too many gringoes drives up the prices. And I see the same thing happening in Colombia, way too many gringoes foolding that country, gettin off thier planes as we speak. In a few years it will be ruined. I have a freind who practically lives in S.A. he said in Lima Peru and Santiago Chilli gringoes are still a novelty. Go there and you will feel like one of the Beatles. I was in Calli 10 years ago and I felt like one of the Beatles, but things are changing in Colombia I have discovered. Thanks for the info guys I may want to try this VIP club, can any of you guys provide me with some more info?
Well I am somewhat conviced. I just need more info on this VIP place. Location? Availabilty? I imagine some of you guys are probably emlployees of the VIP in some way. I was in Medellin for 10 days, so I have a map of the area in my head. I am slightly educated on the area. I have seen the photos of the place and it looks great (VIP), also the rates are lower (for the time being anyway), so it's a no brainer. I'll have to try it out. Do these guys give discounts for a month stay? I need a contact.
Thanks guys.
Need a contact, call Albert at 011 57 4 313 7009. Or talk with KB, he is a Platinum Member as he writes.
If you need to hype the other place, post under his thread.
Well I am somewhat conviced. I just need more info on this VIP place. Location? Availabilty? I imagine some of you guys are probably emlployees of the VIP in some way. I was in Medellin for 10 days, so I have a map of the area in my head. I am slightly educated on the area. I have seen the photos of the place and it looks great (VIP), also the rates are lower (for the time being anyway), so it's a no brainer. I'll have to try it out. Do these guys give discounts for a month stay? I need a contact.
Thanks guys.
Kickboxer151
06-11-06, 18:44
Well I am somewhat conviced. I just need more info on this VIP place. Location? Availabilty? I imagine some of you guys are probably emlployees of the VIP in some way. I was in Medellin for 10 days, so I have a map of the area in my head. I am slightly educated on the area. I have seen the photos of the place and it looks great (VIP), also the rates are lower (for the time being anyway), so it's a no brainer. I'll have to try it out. Do these guys give discounts for a month stay? I need a contact.
Thanks guys.My friend. I want to thank you for sharing the thread on South America. The prices and your experiences in Panama.. HOWEVER I'm Not and I can attest that NO employee of the VIP has even a membership to this site. I myslef have a great business that give me the "platinum traveler" status (thanks Tony D). So I don't need an extra income from the VIP.
Straight Shooter
06-11-06, 19:10
I live here in the beautiful country of Colombia, specifically in Bogota, (see my report in the Bogota thread) and I have been to Medellin several times and have had 3 friends over the past month visit VIP, and actually just got off the phone from speaking with one who returned yesterday. Everyone of them echos exactly what Kickboxer is sharing with us, and that is they enjoyed there stay at the VIP more so than any other hotel they have stayed at in the world, and these 3 friends of mine are very experienced and well traveled mongers. The individual I just spoke to stated to me "Matthew, the place is simply amazing from the size and cleanliness of the rooms to the atmosphere and environment that Albert and Tom provide". I should also state that one of my friends was a guest at Aussies Mansion previously and enjoyed his stay, but very much prefers VIP over the Mansion for the reasons already expressed here on this thread. He also met Robert from El Castillo and found him to be a great guy who was very helpful. During my previous stay in Medellin I stayed at the Torre Poblado and it is also a very well run hotel I would recommend as an alternative to the Mansion or the VIP. I hope to be in Medellin sometime this fall and I am very excited to stay at the VIP based on what my friends have shared with me so I better make my reservations now, because I am sure you will never get one if you do not give yourself a sufficient amount of time before you arrive. In the mean time I am off to Sosua in the Dominican Republic and will be making an informative post on my experiences there, as it will be my first trip to the Sosua/Puerto Plata area.
Guys,
I am heading to Medellin for the July 4th weekend. I am looking for phone numbers for girls who I call for all nighters. Will appreciate any info.
Thanks,
Kid
Kickboxer151
06-12-06, 03:41
I live here in the beautiful country of Colombia, specifically in Bogota, (see my report in the Bogota thread) and I have been to Medellin several times and have had 3 friends over the past month visit VIP, and actually just got off the phone from speaking with one who returned yesterday. Everyone of them echos exactly what Kickboxer is sharing with us, and that is they enjoyed there stay at the VIP more so than any other hotel they have stayed at in the world, and these 3 friends of mine are very experienced and well traveled mongers. The individual I just spoke to stated to me "Matthew, the place is simply amazing from the size and cleanliness of the rooms to the atmosphere and environment that Albert and Tom provide". I should also state that one of my friends was a guest at Aussies Mansion previously and enjoyed his stay, but very much prefers VIP over the Mansion for the reasons already expressed here on this thread. He also met Robert from El Castillo and found him to be a great guy who was very helpful. During my previous stay in Medellin I stayed at the Torre Poblado and it is also a very well run hotel I would recommend as an alternative to the Mansion or the VIP. I hope to be in Medellin sometime this fall and I am very excited to stay at the VIP based on what my friends have shared with me so I better make my reservations now, because I am sure you will never get one if you do not give yourself a sufficient amount of time before you arrive. In the mean time I am off to Sosua in the Dominican Republic and will be making an informative post on my experiences there, as it will be my first trip to the Sosua/Puerto Plata area.
Thanks for those kind words. I'm glad that there is people like you that has had a friend stay atthe VIP Club and have shared their positive experiences with you.
Torre Poblado is also a great place if your looking to be on the solo mode. However its just a breath of fresh air to have competition in Medellin as we the customer win! More choices... Better for us. VIP is my new home away from home. Remember I stated that I stayed at the Grand Suite at the Sheraton 4 points and the VIP Club absolutley blew then away with their suites and service!
KB151
Kickboxer151
06-12-06, 03:46
Need a contact, call Albert at 011 57 4 313 7009. Or talk with KB, he is a Platinum Member as he writes.
If you need to hype the other place, post under his thread.
Lol Paisan80. You seem like a cool guy. Here is Alberts direct email address. ilcalbertlu@hotmail.com
Should you need his direct cell number feel free to drop me a message and I will give it to you.
KB151
Dick Rambone
06-12-06, 14:38
No website for VIP?
Kickboxer151
06-12-06, 16:26
no website for vip?
the vip is gaining much popularity and i see it being a big success in medellin. unfortunately they are not officially open yet. but are taking reservations and was completetly booked when i was there!
albert(gm) said the artwork was approved and the website is being constructed as we speak.
i have posted many photos in the photo gallery.
have a peek.
kb151
Kickboxer151
06-13-06, 06:59
From a picture posted I noticed Albert. I remember meeting him on one of my visits to medellin. He owned a spanish language school and the guy tom I believe is from texas. Tom was in some sort of development sales in Texas and went in with some other guys and bought a place in Medellin. I could be wrong about Tom but Albert I have actually been out with. If Tom is about 5'8 and has blond balding hair he is the guy. Albert once showed me where to buy some cool Colombian shirts in town and was advising me on a guy that needed cash and wanted to sell his lake property ASAP. Albert is 38 because last year I know he said he was 37. His parents are Colombian but he has spent a lot of time in the states. My guess just from my brief time with Albert is that there are numerous investors in on this place and if anyone wants to believe that there will be only nonpros as cubanut suggested they are dreaming. First of all most of the gringos I have met in medellin can only get by with paying for their ass. I wish everyone luck, I'm just glad I visit medellin for fun and not to try to make a dollar. There isn't any place on earth easier to make make money than the good ol USA!
Im american as well! 100%. BUT the American dollar is worth nothing. Especially in California.
I say make it in the USA and live and invest abroad!
Also American women suck fo rthe most part!
KB151
One thing I discovered in Medellin. The regular girls were kinda tough to pick up. I am a average looking guy, still in my 30's, in great shape, not at all fat, have a full head of hair. My buddy is the same. It seems these Medellin girls look at us as dirty gringos looking for a quick piece of ass. I was in Cali in 96 and had no prob picking up regular girls. Although the concentration of beautiful women is not there in Cali. Without a doubt the Medellin woman are more beautiful and are in greater numbers. But you will find plenty of lookers in Cali. The Cali women were more aproachable. Where as the Medellin women are kind of arrogant, won't even look you in the eye it seemed. It seemed every guy in the mansion were with pros, including myself. Sure a few guys would tell you of a non-pro he is about to score on. But honestly in my 10 days in the mansion it was pro after pro after pro. I will give Medellin another shot this winter. After all the pro seen is great and the best eye candy in the world is there. With some better Spanish and a longer stay I am confident I can hook up with a regular woman. I often ask myself "why do I crave a country where there are thousands of beautiful women? " after all, I only have one penis. Theres gotta be somethin wrong with me.
Barefoot Chap,
You wrote:
My guess just from my brief time with Albert is that there are numerous investors in on this place and if anyone wants to believe that there will be only nonpros as Cubanut suggested they are dreaming.
END
I would appreciate you not twisting what I said concerning the gents I met at VIP and the women at the party I attended there. Look back and re-read my thread. I said that the fellas I met were more business oriented and not the massage parlor/street girl seeking types. They seemed to be more intersted in pursuing the non-pro approach.
I also NEVER suggested that there would ONLY be non-pros at VIP's. I said at the party I attended the MAJORITY were non-pros.
ALSO:
I too have met my share of men who Pay 4 Play in Colombia. So what? I have also met more than my share of guys making money through various investments in Colombia.
My Grand-daddy used to always say "Never do business south of the Rio Grande". Well he was right about not trying to do business in Mexico but totally wrong about South America.
One thing that really impressed me about the gents staying at VIP was that many of them had studied Spanish intently and spoke it fluently as a second language. That is a good sign of determination. It will help them tremendeously in business and of course in the pursuit of non-pros.
Also Barefoot Chap:
I suggest anyone writing about someone else also get that person's permission to give a detailed background of their private lives as well. Did you consult with Albert and/or Tom to write their Bio's on this board?
Like yourself, Barefoot Chap, I do not do business in Colombia. I do however disagree about the "ease" of making money in the USA. Just like in all countries around the world it takes determination and CREATING opportunities and not waiting for them but also knowing when to take advantage of those opportunities that one sometimes comes accross.
I agree with you in wishing everyone good luck.
I just wonder what exactly the point of your post was supposed to be.
Cheers,
Cubanut
I guess it will have to be VIPS this Winter. From everything I read here it seems to be worth a shot. I hope this guy will work me a deal for 4-5 weeks at VIPS. I just get the impression you need to be spotted regularly at some of these night clubs to score a regular girl. Kinda like the clubs here in the U.S.,when you are spotted at the same club regularly with the same crowd eventually you start makin time with someone. I think these Medellin girls are turned off by that sex seeking gringo passin through for just the weekend.
BeersTerry
06-13-06, 13:22
Everything is pie in the sky when starting out. We will have to wait to see if VIP morphs into a puta palace in time.
Kickboxer151
06-13-06, 16:12
Everything is pie in the sky when starting out. We will have to wait to see if VIP morphs into a puta palace in time.
Again I like to give a clear and balanced thread / report / blog.
So...... I have to agree my friend... I just hope Tom (owner) and Albert (GM) stay grounded with their success. Money and success "usually" changes people. However I have to be honest and say that Tom is such a genuine soul! Tom has witnessed many many things in his previous career and has seem to take those experiences and looks at the positives in everyone. I dont think he has an ounce of negativity in his personality.
Albert (GM) is a great guy. He's a kinda "suave" guy inthe way he dresses and communicates. The ladies ador that guy! Front of the line priveledges and VIP tables at culbs waiting for us is pretty amazing in itself. He even introduced me to the owner of Faze-Dos as we were sitting in the VIP area.
Albert has class,suave and style. I hope he also can stay grounded with hi new found success.
KB151
Kickboxer151
06-13-06, 16:15
Again I like to give a clear and balanced thread / report / blog.
So...... I have to agree my friend... I just hope Tom (owner) and Albert (GM) stay grounded with their success. Money and success "usually" changes people. However I have to be honest and say that Tom is such a genuine soul! Tom has witnessed many many things in his previous career and has seem to take those experiences and looks at the positives in everyone. I dont think he has an ounce of negativity in his personality.
Albert (GM) is a great guy. He's a kinda "suave" guy inthe way he dresses and communicates. The ladies ador that guy! Front of the line priveledges and VIP tables at culbs waiting for us is pretty amazing in itself. He even introduced me to the owner of Faze-Dos as we were sitting in the VIP area.
Albert has class,suave and style. I hope he also can stay grounded with hi new found success.
KB151
Oops I said clear and balanced.
Gotta promote "suave" himself. Robert (el Castillo) hes a smooth guy too. Cant go wrong with Robert.
One thing I discovered in Medellin. The regular girls were kinda tough to pick up. I am a average looking guy, still in my 30's, in great shape, not at all fat, have a full head of hair. My buddy is the same. It seems these Medellin girls look at us as dirty gringos looking for a quick piece of ass. I was in Cali in 96 and had no prob picking up regular girls. Although the concentration of beautiful women is not there in Cali. Without a doubt the Medellin woman are more beautiful and are in greater numbers. But you will find plenty of lookers in Cali. The Cali women were more aproachable. Where as the Medellin women are kind of arrogant, won't even look you in the eye it seemed. It seemed every guy in the mansion were with pros, including myself. Sure a few guys would tell you of a non-pro he is about to score on. But honestly in my 10 days in the mansion it was pro after pro after pro. I will give Medellin another shot this winter. After all the pro seen is great and the best eye candy in the world is there. With some better Spanish and a longer stay I am confident I can hook up with a regular woman. I often ask myself "why do I crave a country where there are thousands of beautiful women? " after all, I only have one penis. Theres gotta be somethin wrong with me.
I am probably a better then average looking guy and I scored on a couple of nonpros in the eight days that I was there but just showing up and being a even a good looking gringo is not going to get you laid there I could tell. This might get you in the door but you better know Spanish and be convincing that you're not there for a quick lay. Heck, girls in the US have to be convinced of that as well but it's easier to do in English (well for me anyway)!
I am probably a better then average looking guy and I scored on a couple of nonpros in the eight days that I was there but just showing up and being a even a good looking gringo is not going to get you laid there I could tell. This might get you in the door but you better know Spanish and be convincing that you're not there for a quick lay. Heck, girls in the US have to be convinced of that as well but it's easier to do in English (well for me anyway)!Yea I guess your right. I speak decent hotel/airport/restaraunt spanish (travel spanish). But I need to be able to carry a conversation. I'm workin on that. I just bought this book/cd course called "Hugo in 3 Months Latin-American Spanish".
.... Learn to speak Spanish well
.... Make the chicas laugh ... fastest path to the cama (bed) is thru humor.
.... Of course most non-pros aren´t going to take you serious if you can´t talk to them .... but more than a few memorized lines of spanish.
.... Also in Medellin, getting away from el Poblado, Mangos, Parque Lleras is key .... go out and meet some of the ´real´ Paisas.
Suerte!
that the various mansions and the Medellin tourist board have come up with a slogan for their advertising campaign:
WE JUST SCREWED THE LAST GRINGO IN ORDER TO PASS THE SAVINGS ON TO YOU!
So make sure you check out after the other guy!!!!!!
LB
Kid,
Don't need any numbers. Unless you see pictures of the girl and determine they fit your taste, numbers are no good.
Just get into town, go to Loutron or Energy and pick a girl or two that fit your taste. These girls will be more than happy to give you their number. Now you have a few numbers that you can call in case you do not want to go out at night.
At night, head over to Fase II, its the best place right now (evening). San Diego Club sucks. Just a bunch of worn out girls. You can try the street scene around San Diego, but you have to be patient. There are some gem street girls, but you have to be careful. They are on the street for a reason.
Good Luck.
Guys,
I am heading to Medellin for the July 4th weekend. I am looking for phone numbers for girls who I call for all nighters. Will appreciate any info.
Thanks,
Kid
KB,
C'mon, American women are not that bad. Just because they are a little harder to get and a little more expensive, doesn't make them bad.
There are plenty that have a good job, good looking, and great in bed. Beleive me, they are out there. But, if you are not a celebrity or not in a band and want to live the Playboy lifestyle, South America is the place.
Paisan
Im american as well! 100%. BUT the American dollar is worth nothing. Especially in California.
I say make it in the USA and live and invest abroad!
Also American women suck fo rthe most part!
KB151
Yea the girls will gladly give you thier phone numbers and cut you a price break by working privately. (not giving their pimps thier cut). But keep in mind at that mansion the "aussie" is friends with the pimps of Loutrons and Energys. I had a few pros at the mansion working privately and they were worried to death they may run into thier pimps hanging out with the "aussie" at the mansion.
Kid,
Don't need any numbers. Unless you see pictures of the girl and determine they fit your taste, numbers are no good.
Just get into town, go to Loutron or Energy and pick a girl or two that fit your taste. These girls will be more than happy to give you their number. Now you have a few numbers that you can call in case you do not want to go out at night.
At night, head over to Fase II, its the best place right now (evening). San Diego Club sucks. Just a bunch of worn out girls. You can try the street scene around San Diego, but you have to be patient. There are some gem street girls, but you have to be careful. They are on the street for a reason.
Good Luck.
Escort King
06-14-06, 15:16
They are on the street for a reason.
Good Luck.
Now those are very astute words..... but there is always some fun find that gem street worker.... if you can deal with all the headaches that go with it....
Kickboxer151
06-14-06, 16:48
Yea the girls will gladly give you thier phone numbers and cut you a price break by working privately. (not giving their pimps thier cut). But keep in mind at that mansion the "aussie" is friends with the pimps of Loutrons and Energys. I had a few pros at the mansion working privately and they were worried to death they may run into thier pimps hanging out with the "aussie" at the mansion.
I had a girl that I met from energy (same owner as Lutron) and she asked me where I was staying.. I told her at the VIP Club. She hasnt evern heard of it and I was telling her where it was... SHE made it CLEAR to me that she was NOT allowed to visit the Mansion (aussie gregs) UNLESS I was going to have her delivered there from the club directly!!
She told me if the management found out that she was there for any other reason she would be fired!! I think you guys can figure out what is going on here.
I just stay away from trouble :-)
VIP Place to be!
She told me if the management found out that she was there for any other reason she would be fired!! I think you guys can figure out what is going on here.
I just stay away from trouble :-)
VIP Place to be!Sounds like BS, and very much like something a direct competitor would say.
You assert that you aren't an employee of VIP, but let's look at your post breakdown:
Kickboxer151
Join Date: 08-13-04
Date of first post: 05-05-06
Non-photo gallery posts: 20
Posts mentioning VIP: 11 (55%)
in positive context: 9 (45%)
Posts mentioning Med. Mansion: 7 (35%)
in negative context: 6 (30%)
The numbers above clearly indicate you are:
A. A shill for VIP
OR
B. A dissatisfied customer of the Aussie
Undoubtedly, both are fine establishments. Honestly I was thrilled with the pics of VIP, it looks bangin'! You got a nice plug in, and anyone without a vested self-interest would have let it go at that. However, the ensuing barrage of advertisement and the thinly-veiled smear campaign against M.M. has totally soured me on the VIP establishment. Your product should speak for itself, and not rely on bashing (or even mentioning) the competition.
I, like many others, look to this board for USEFUL information- and you are filling it with CRAP.
We all know you like VIP.
Thank you for providing the contact info.
Now STFU already! or post some more useful (NON-VIP related) information, whatever.
BeersTerry
06-14-06, 22:05
This must be a new development as we did not have that problem in April/May with the girls coming to the mansion.
Kickboxer151
06-14-06, 22:33
This must be a new development as we did not have that problem in April/May with the girls coming to the mansion.
Im not the in the initial person(s) making this claim.
From what I gathered from this girl is that it is a relatively new (last few months) that this practice is no longer allowed. Furthermore I have also heard that they do not WANT any contact with Aussie outside there working hours.. ie hanging out at the mansion (only they can go there for there services if a client wanted them to be delivered there) period!
So if you plan on hanging with a girl from those places owned by the owner of Lutron DONT even think about asking her to come back to the Mansion after working hours.
KB151
These places (loutrons, energy) want a cut of any and all action. As I stated before you can work out deals with the girls privately for all nighters and save a couple bucks. I don't think the "aussie" gives a crap what kind of deal you work out with the girl. But from what I gathered the owner of energys and loutrons is friends with the "aussie". And this guy (the pimp) hangs at the mansion from time to time. Probably to make sure his girls are not cheating him. As i said before, a few of the girls were very nervous about being spotted by their pimp at the mansion. Again I emphasize that the aussie doesn't give a crap what you do or who you screw. But if the pimp happens to be hangin around.
Send me a PM as I don't want to clutter this board with non Medellin info. Florianopolis is AWESOME but, like everywhere in Brasil, waves are WAY crowded and not consistent. I highly suggest Peru or Ecuador for your preferences (other than diving). For diving with your family San Andres is a good, but expensive option, although if you are REALLY into diving then the Gapalagos should be your primary destination.
Medellin has changed a LOT in the last three years, due to the gringo invasion. Aussie Greg did NOT start the decline, but his Mansion is contributing to it (just as VIP will now begin adding to the invasion). Once a place gets hyped on public internet sites, its prime will quickly pass. I am as guilty as anybody of contributing to that decline, as upon discovering Colombia I was so excited I wanted to share it with everybody so I posted glowing reports without using discretion. Both Medellin and Cartagena have lost most of their appeal to me.
The unspoiled Colombia is still there, but you have to travel further and further from major airports to find it. IF you find it, consider just sharing via email with friends (or keeping it to yourself).
Strange!! ,back in April, i got very close to a girl from Lutrons,and one night invited her out to a club,she said yes,and of course she had a great time with me,and she also stay the night at the Mansion and did not evern want money for the night stayover. Aussie was not with us at the club,but the girl was more than happy to come back to the Mansion with me.
I do hope this has not change since,as i will be back in July and hope to hook up with her again.
Superboy
Im not the in the initial person(s) making this claim.
From what I gathered from this girl is that it is a relatively new (last few months) that this practice is no longer allowed. Furthermore I have also heard that they do not WANT any contact with Aussie outside there working hours.. ie hanging out at the mansion (only they can go there for there services if a client wanted them to be delivered there) period!
So if you plan on hanging with a girl from those places owned by the owner of Lutron DONT even think about asking her to come back to the Mansion after working hours.
KB151
Kickboxer151
06-15-06, 02:06
Strange!! ,back in April, i got very close to a girl from Lutrons,and one night invited her out to a club,she said yes,and of course she had a great time with me,and she also stay the night at the Mansion and did not evern want money for the night stayover. Aussie was not with us at the club,but the girl was more than happy to come back to the Mansion with me.
I do hope this has not change since,as i will be back in July and hope to hook up with her again.
Superboy
Well, Maybe your the exception and not THE RULE....
Happy pounding
Great trip, great clean and safe city. I'll update the list but here is a short summary for now.
Loutron, weekday afternoon: I was not impressed with the quality at all. Expected a lot more in Medellin. Starts at around 140 for 45 mins with one girl. San Diego -don't bother. FII one night (I think Sunday) was slow, bad ratio, maybe a couple of cute girls. The other night was much better, more and cuter girls. Prices 150K short time. Some girls offer to meet at hotel after 4am closing time but were too tired after all. NewLife: not bad for 30K. Streetwalkers around Mayorista: dogs, I don’t recommend getting out of the taxi. They are on the street for a reason.
Food: La Doctora, not good at all. Steak place at Olvieda mall is way better for half the price. The seafood restaurant La Fragata is impressive, but takes a long time to prepare food. Sushi ToGo in Parqu Lleras makes good sangria and a great place for people watching.
Best discos: Mangos, Universal (next door), Las Palmitas, Circus (havent been but heard good things), Templo Antonia (huge place), BLounge (depending on the night) is pretty cool.
Hotels: Plaza Rosa – stay away. The lobby is nice, but the inside looks like an upgraded motel. No hot water one day. One employee made a comment about the age of my friend’s girl and a consequent joke about police outside. He was out of line and I will not recommend that anyone stay there. Dann Carlton: has a feel of a world class hotel, probably the best place to stay and impress girls too. Park10: didn’t stay there, but looks like a luxury hotel. Occasional demolition noise (sounds like a bomb goes off) was a reason we didn’t stay there.
Conclusion: unless you got consistent game in USA and speak decent spanish I do not recommend going to Medellin. If you know how to carry yourself then it's easy to meet girls, but remember 3 date rule usually applies. If scoring regular girls is your main objective then it's a great city to live, but not worth it if you are here for a weekend or two. Living there can be plain boring though: the nightlife is virtually non-existent Sun-Wed, and there is no beach; in other words it's no Buenos Aires or New York where there are crowds every day of the week. Myself I could not spend more than a week there, unless this is a paid for business trip. On a positive note Colombian men in Medellin don’t dress as well as girls do, many are short and fat, and few if any exercise.
I am curios if Bogota is more alive and cosmopolitan? - I gotta go to Bogota board for that.
Finally, regarding P4P if you are all the way in Medellin, I don't see a point in paying 150 for a short time. I'd rather pay that in GiroMatto in Cartagena to a smoking girl on the right weekend for a TLN and enjoy the beach, steak at the Riquissimo, and the islands during the daytime.
You guys guys crack me up. So you will stay in Colombia for months on end so that you can score a regular chick?
Hilarious.No I will stay for 4 weeks. Months on end? 4 weeks is 28 days. Ok if I go in February it will be 1 month exactly. But I wouldn't call this months on end. Besides the point, I may try Santiago or Lima instead, just to get away from all you damn gringoes who are flooding Medellin, this is the biggest problem with Medellin. I wish airfares went up to 3k. It would cut down on all the rif-raf entering S.A. The same effect as expensive drinks at a first class night club has. Anyway you gotta make some efforts to snach one of the regular girls in Medellin, trust me on this. Your not gonna get laid by a regular girl if your simply passin through. You are probably one slick dude, with the turtle neck, the electro gold plated chains on top , the slick 50 in your hair, all the pick up lines. I'm sure they are standing in line for you bud.
But from what I have seen, read and heard the sex seekin gringo passin through for the weekend aint gettin shit. Layin out 25 bucks for the mechanical ***** is too easy and it does get old after while. Lets not get into an exchange bud, please?
You hit it right on the money. The endless shameless plug on the Mansion is getting a bit old. Enough of this Mansion is the shit and Greg is a great guy crap.
Bullshit!!!Dollars,
I went back in the posts and it appears that you have yet to make it to Medellin or even to Colombia. Yet, you have alot to respond about those who offer services there and those who are using those services.
You once wrote that you were afraid to go to Medellin because of a drive-by. I take it you are still afraid (your words, I'm just repeating).
You make fun of gents who want to meet non-pro women and are willing to put time, money and effort into doing so. You go so far as to say this makes you laugh. Why do you question their "Modus Operandi"? At least many of them have already braved taking the 1st step or are about to do so by actually going to Colombia.
Greg and Robert are dear friends of mine and I will advise any newcomer to stay with them at the Mansion or the Castillo.
Albert and Tom are new aquiantences whom I'm sure I will grow to embrace them as good friends as well. They have a nice (albeit different) set up at Club VIP's and I also invite the advanced traveller to Medellin to check out their offerings as well.
Other providers will follow as well and I wish them all good fortune.
I myself am a simple man and I try to help my Brother Mongers as much as possible. I have posted immensly on three other boards and am just catching up on this one. We all have quirks and things we like and dislike. I try to respect others thoughts and opinions expressed on boards like these without critisism . I hope others do the same as I report and share my knowledge.
Dollar, all I'm asking is that you and others keep an open mind to the vews and thoughts expressed by those who are walking the walk. I hope that you will soon join the ranks of fellas traveling to Medellin and then make an intelligent report.
Cheers,
Cubanut
It has been a long time since this info has been going around.
It is about a service called pre-pago (pre-paid), the reason for me writing it in the medellin thread is because I remember reading a post from a felllow monger whose name does not come to my mind right now.
The service offers high end escorts and even offers actresses and tv personalities.
When I read in the bogota section an interview that was made to juliana (an escort over there) and she was asked about this service and she said that the service has been around for a long time and it is true that they offer this type of vip services but it's expensive.
Any of the colombian mongers have any type of info on this vip service of high end escorts?
So if you plan on hanging with a girl from those places owned by the owner of Lutron DONT even think about asking her to come back to the Mansion after working hours.
KB151This seems like a pretty substantial development for anyone who is considering visiting the M.M. (which I am), so my question to you is, why do you never post in the M.M. thread?
You're making some pretty wild claims. Start posting them in the M.M. thread (where they will be subject to the scrutiny of people who have actually stayed there) and then maybe your information will hold a bit more water.
Not like Loutron (or any particular casa) is the be-all and end-all anyway. There's enough hoes to go around. July will be my first trip to MDE, but I assume it puts CTG to shame; and laguito at night is hard to walk a block without bumping into a fucking supermodel. LDV sucked... them hoes are out for blood. Better to stick to the less known places anyway.
Kickboxer151
06-16-06, 01:31
This seems like a pretty substantial development for anyone who is considering visiting the M.M. (which I am), so my question to you is, why do you never post in the M.M. thread?
You're making some pretty wild claims. Start posting them in the M.M. thread (where they will be subject to the scrutiny of people who have actually stayed there) and then maybe your information will hold a bit more water.
Not like Loutron (or any particular casa) is the be-all and end-all anyway. There's enough hoes to go around. July will be my first trip to MDE, but I assume it puts CTG to shame; and laguito at night is hard to walk a block without bumping into a fucking supermodel. LDV sucked... them hoes are out for blood. Better to stick to the less known places anyway.
Hmm... LMAO .... Your a newbie member here with only 2 post?. Hmmm lets see who sent you here anyway? And what is your motivation for your thread directed toward me? You have'nt even been to Medellin yet! And according to your statement " Your making wild claims"..... These are NOT claims these are personal experiences! Or maybe you dont know what the term "personal" means since you havent even had one yet in Medellin! Furthermore my claims are made on this page "Medellin" because the guys that are interested in visiting and spending their hard earned cash need to have a balanced look at Medellin and what it has to offer. Hence these posts exist here! Putting my posts in the "Mansion" section does nothing but bring negativity to that section! I'm not about that Im about posting it in an OPEN Medellin forum!
KB151
Xion, MDE does not put CTG to shame. If you found CTG a hard work, you will find MDE even harder.
What's with the gringo overflood in MDE I keep reading about? In my 1 week there we haven't seen 1 gringo.
Brugal, Juliana's web site has been replaced with a link to an escort service, mujerescort.com, that sounds like what you're describing in high end service, if it's real. It's high end cost anyway -- 6 million for a weekend! I'm going to post a little more in the Bogota thread.
Escort King
06-16-06, 16:56
Brugal, Juliana's web site has been replaced with a link to an escort service, mujerescort.com, that sounds like what you're describing in high end service, if it's real. It's high end cost anyway -- 6 million for a weekend! I'm going to post a little more in the Bogota thread.
Damn you can get that rate in US... save the travel etc....
Hmm... LMAO .... Your a newbie member here with only 2 post?You are quite astute. However you fail to mention my start date, 6/9/04- about two months older than yours. So if you'd like to throw around the newbie claim, fine. As for my post count, admittedly I'm a bit of a leech- since joining, this site has been my guide through san jose, aruba, rio and CTG... unfortunately I've done a miserable job of contributing back, perhaps I shall remedy this with a MDE report in july.
Hmmm lets see who sent you here anyway? And what is your motivation for your thread directed toward me?You're new to this forum thing, huh? I'm what is referred to as a "troll".
You are what we refer to as "bait".
Typically I'm a quiet troll, but you just make it so easy.
My only motivation is the truth- whats yours?
You have'nt even been to Medellin yet! And according to your statement " Your making wild claims"..... These are NOT claims these are personal experiences!"Claim" and "experience" are synonymous in that they are both SUBJECTIVE.
Yet you present this information as if it were FACT.
Or did I misinterpret something in the title of your post #1213? "Its true!!"
Or maybe you dont know what the term "personal" means since you havent even had one yet in Medellin! Furthermore my claims are made on this page "Medellin" because the guys that are interested in visiting and spending their hard earned cash need to have a balanced look at Medellin and what it has to offer. Hence these posts exist here! Putting my posts in the "Mansion" section does nothing but bring negativity to that section! I'm not about that Im about posting it in an OPEN Medellin forum!Fair enough. But realize that the quality of your information suffers when you don't open it up to scrutiny.
Why should we believe you? Especially given your predeliction for plugging VIP.
There is nothing negative about an informed discussion on the topic of the day (putas), so why not put this info in front of those most qualified to give input?
Failure to do so just makes your info seem irrelivant... you become all noise and no signal. And of course, people like me will crawl out of the woodwork and start bitching.
Xion, MDE does not put CTG to shame. If you found CTG a hard work, you will find MDE even harder.That is disheartening in the extreme. I am at least, looking forward to what appears to be a greater variety in venues and price levels. I'm a fan of the strip club/casa atmosphere and didn't find any nice ones in CTG (some sexy casa girls but I had to pay the salida, as none of those places I'd really wanna lay my dick).
Most of all I'm hoping for more of those tall, long black hair, lightskin paisas, we all know the type. I was picking this type out at LDV and getting *major* sticker shock (I heard TLN 400,000!! I bought this chick a drink for having balls) but it was funny to chat them up, they're so quick to dish on their colleagues "costenas, muy feas!" lol
Kickboxer151
06-16-06, 19:35
Xion149:
1) You have not not even been to Medellin.
2) When and if you do post (a real personal experience) here WE will love to hear about it.
3) Many of my friends and others on this board have spent thousands of dollars on flights,food and entertainment in Medellin.
4) The only way you will be able to share a "True" Medellin experience is if you pay the money and go there!
Conclusion: You can take a horse to the water but you cant force him to drink!
Do you even know what you are talking about.
What does start date have anything to do regarding input on this forum? To me the longer it takes you to report since joinning, the less credibility you have. Especially if you have already traveled and benefitted from this forum. So, what does this say about you?
You are quite astute. However you fail to mention my start date, 6/9/04- about two months older than yours. So if you'd like to throw around the newbie claim, fine. As for my post count, admittedly I'm a bit of a leech- since joining, this site has been my guide through san jose, aruba, rio and CTG. Unfortunately I've done a miserable job of contributing back, perhaps I shall remedy this with a MDE report in July. You don't have to believe him. Just make sure you visit VIPs when you are in Medellin and provide your objective opinion in comparing it to MM. KB has atleast stayed at both locations and has provided his personel experience.
[See C-Nut's objective review of both locations, you can try and do the same. But there may be a reason you have not provided any input to this forum.
Also, KB's posts belong in the Medellin section since VIPs does not have their own section. I figure KB does not post under the MM section as a matter of respect. It does not matter that he does not like the place. Posts in the Medellin section will get the most exposure and scrutinity. It got your attention didn't it.
Why should we believe you? Especially given your predeliction for plugging VIP. There is nothing negative about an informed discussion on the topic of the day (putas), so why not put this info in front of those most qualified to give input? Failure to do so just makes your info seem irrelivant. You become all noise and no signal. And of course, people like me will crawl out of the woodwork and start bitching.
Why should we believe you? Especially given your predeliction for plugging VIP.
There is nothing negative about an informed discussion on the topic of the day (putas), so why not put this info in front of those most qualified to give input?
Failure to do so just makes your info seem irrelivant... you become all noise and no signal. And of course, people like me will crawl out of the woodwork and start bitching.
I do not think he has any credibility on ISG. I would have written him off as "bait" if not for Surfer's nod.(still have not figured that one out). I really think he should just put a blurb in the advertising section and be done with it. I rent a high end Penthouse out, but try not to talk about it much as it ruins the boards. Another member owns a strip club here in Peru and he does likewise. Guy's can have there discussions over there and save this space for more important things.
LB
Xion & LB: A couple points:
1. I COMPLETELY agree with you that KB has gone overboard posting how great VIP is.
2. While I only met him twice, I saw enough to know that he has a lucrative business in the US and does not nered to schill for VIP or anybody. I also saw that he treats both the girls and the affiliated locals with great respect.
3. I emailed him a few days ago suggesting that he chill on the praise for VIP and told him that if I did not know him persionally, I likely would have chimed on to express disgust at the repetitive publicity like posts. His response was NOT defensive or combative, and he said he appreciated my advice and would chill. I genuinely believe he is just excited about VIP and wants to spread the word. Anybody who knows my posts KNOWS I have low tolerance for schills or self promotion, and that applies to friend or foe without favor.
4. LB sets the standard for APPROPRIATE promotion of his personal business. Sadly, VERY few others respect the fine line between giving out info and advertising that become bothersome. While I could WISH that others would emulate the fine example set by LB, I do not expect it (and Jackson takes an even more tolerant approach than I would).
5. All this being said, Greg is allowed to use this forum to promote the mansion, and fundamental fairness seems to dictate that a VIP representive be afforded the same courtesy. Seems to me Jackson should create a separate folder for VIP, and then one of its owners could field questions etc in that folder. If KB wants to do it for them, let him.
I personally am depressed that Medellin is being ruined by the gringo sex tourist invasion, like Cartagena before, and while I will certain return in transit to greener pastures I doubt I would stay at either VIP or the Mansion (I'd stay with Robert at El Castillo if I stayed at any monger run establishment).
I will certainly give you the benefit of the doubt! Thank you for the kind words, but the truth is touting my place would not do any good! Anybody that has been to Lima knows the girls are all diseased and butt ugly old w****s!
KB, No harm,No foul....
Suerte todo!
LB
Besides the point, I may try Santiago or Lima instead, just to get away from all you damn gringoes who are flooding Medellin, this is the biggest problem with Medellin. I
Forget Lima (see below comment) Santiago is cool, but MDE is the place to go if you want a non-pro!
LB
Kickboxer151
06-17-06, 00:31
TRUE: Surfer did email me and told me to chill on the VIP promotion. I completely understand how my threads may be interpeted as a "hype" and "promotion" of the VIP.
Forgive me for being very excited over finding a new place.
Scheesh maybe I shouldnt have said anyting like Surfer is implying that Medellin is being over run by gringos.
Ok, Guys... VIP absolutely sucks!!! Stay home! Dont come to Medellin..
LOL! :-)
Ps. Surfer is a very stand up guy. Hope to run into you again in TJ! I'm going tonight!! Yippe!! That makes 4 times this week!
TJ. 4 times in 1 week! No way can TJ girls compare to Paisas.
Must be close to home or you're having withdrawals.
I don't hear good things about TJ girls: short, fat and ugly.
Ps. Surfer is a very stand up guy. Hope to run into you again in TJ! I'm going tonight!! Yippe!! That makes 4 times this week!
Xion & LB: A couple points:
I personally am depressed that Medellin is being ruined by the gringo sex tourist invasion, like Cartagena before.
How is it and why is it that Surfer and others claim that Medellin is being over run with sex tourists?
I have been to Medellin, Bogota, Cartagena, Bucaramanga.
Medellin I have been to 7 times over a one year period.
I know a vast amount of bad girls (semi-pro & all pro) and a much smaller amount of good party girls (no-pro) that I sometimes party with at clubs or other festivities. I also know Colombian families and have accepted invitations to private home dinners, parties and to join them at open festivals. As a side note to that I have met many beautiful virgins, be they daughters, nieces, cousins, friends etc. of those families. I never disrespect any of them.
I mention all this because even while doing all the monger and non-monger things I do, I never am tripping over sex tourists. In fact it's interesting to find that many of the guys going to Medellin would rather meet a non-pro for a serious relationship.
So to Surfer and all those others you claim that Medellin is being ruined, I ask them to give specific examples of how or why they feel this is the case.
Cheers,
Cubanut
Hey Cubanut ...
I remember Medellin when a gringo was a rare sight.
Entering one of the massage casas in the daytime or a strip club in the evening or searching the streets for the beautiful SW ... you would trully be the first gringo most of the chicas have ever seen.
Long before the "MANSION" was even a thought, I can remember exploring the streets of Medellin with Roberto (of the now Castillo) ... finding ENERGY and NEW LIFE and swearing an oath never to tell another soul about these hidden places ... hahaha.
Then came the MEDELLIN PENTHOUSE ... and now the MANSION, CASTILLO, VIP, ETC.
Of course there are more and more gringos venturing out and visiting Medellin now ... heck, I remember meeting you and your gang on your first night in Medellin.
I wouldn't say that one is tripping over gringo sex tourists now in Medellin but now when you go to one of the "usual" establishments in Medellin or go SW trolling ... as a gringo, you are no longer unique and so special.
Also, for the dudes enjoying time with the chicas that visit places like the MANSION, VIP, etc ... you are just another gringo.
Is this a bad thing? ... not really ... as Colombia cleans up its image ... it's natural that more tourists will come to visit.
I've met many guys visiting and staying at the MANSION / CASTILLO ... most are really nice ... and most are content with that ... hanging at the MANSION with the visits to the "usual" places.
Like you said, you visit and have become friends with non-pros, families and friends of families ... that's the beauty of Colombia really, how they embrace you and take you in if you are respectful and nice ... like yourself.
Bottom line is ... without a doubt, Medellin has many more gringo sex tourists now ... and you will not be so unique when visiting these establishments ... however ... with an adventurous spirit and ability to speak the language ... you can definitely still get away from the gringo.
Suerte!
Kickboxer151
06-17-06, 21:36
Ok guys I wanted to just throw this out there since I live 20 minutes from the Tijuana, Mexico border..
In my opinion there is a HUGE difference in culture.
Colombians/women are very nice and the men are less macho. Is this your observation too?
KB151
KB151,
I also live close to TJ and have been to colombia, with few exceptions colombia has my vote. Only while in colombia, they change once they leave the homeland, the girls are not ment for export.
Ok guys I wanted to just throw this out there since I live 20 minutes from the Tijuana, Mexico border..
In my opinion there is a HUGE difference in culture.
Colombians/women are very nice and the men are less macho. Is this your observation too?
KB151
That may be true of Paisas. Colombia is diverse, and they are different in other regions of the country.
I agree that Medellin is much better for casas/strip clubs than Cartagena. I am not even sure Cartagena has one.
I have to disagree again that Medellin is overrun by gringos. There may be more visiting during flower festival but we didn't see one this month and we hit every regular club and F2 as well. How many gringos have been to Medellin over the past 12 month, maybe 1000? That's hardly any in a 2+ million population city.
What I would really like to see happen is they start going out Sun-Wed!
Making broad generalizations, the Colombians are sweeter and prettier. The Mexicanas are more honest and curse more.
No. I'm not getting into an exchange. I was just amazed at the length guys will go to get some pussy. Staying for 4 weeks so that you can score a regular chick is a bit far fetched. However, like the saying goes, it's not how you start but how you finish.28 days goes by like 28 minutes for me in S.A. or C.A.
Hi all,
I've been going to Medellin for awhile and invested in a bar/restaurant a few months ago. It is open now for lunch and drinks all night, named Zafa (soon to be Chicago's). It is a fixed lunch with 2 options at 6,000 pesos and is quite tasty. We have a big screen and HD projection with 4 Direct TV feeds and great sight seeing from the patio, right off of Parque Lleras.
Would appreciate member feedback as we are planning on additional renovation/redecoration.
Salud!
Kickboxer151
06-18-06, 04:06
That may be true of Paisas. Colombia is diverse, and they are different in other regions of the country.
Your probably correct! I have never been outside Medellin.
If you had a second choice to Medellin in Colombia.... Where would it be?
KB151
Chicas from all over Colombia are sweet ... matter of fact, I've found the Paisa to be more dramatic and difficult than the Costenas (from the coast) or the Calenas.
Your probably correct! I have never been outside Medellin.
If you had a second choice to Medellin in Colombia.... Where would it be?
KB151
Hmm, no way I can decide on a clear second place. I'm still out looking for the next best spot.
Medellin is number one for me. Bogota, Cali and Cartagena are all about the same level in my book. Wouldn't bother me at all to revisit those cities. But I have this urge to go out there and look for new scenes and places.
"overrun" is too strong a word, but the fact is there are WAY more gringos running around than there were just a few short years ago. Compared to mainstream places like the DR, Costa Rica or Mexico the numbers are minimal that is true, but there are too many for my personal preference.
I make no apologies for enjoying the "novelty" factor, not just for chicas but for meeting other locals too. It is cool to have people who have not yet come into contact with lots of Americans because they are friendlier. Some of my best times traveling have involved meeting people on remote islands in the PI or Indonesia that had never seen a white person.
Familiarity breeds contempt as they say, TJ being a case in point. Not that I blame the locals who develop distaste for gringos as we often act like obnoxious, arrogant overlords, but just as I prefer fresher, less jaded, girls I prefer fresher locations. Medellin still has those places, but not in Poblado.
Kickboxer151
06-18-06, 19:50
"overrun" is too strong a word, but the fact is there are WAY more gringos running around than there were just a few short years ago. Compared to mainstream places like the DR, Costa Rica or Mexico the numbers are minimal that is true, but there are too many for my personal preference.
I make no apologies for enjoying the "novelty" factor, not just for chicas but for meeting other locals too. It is cool to have people who have not yet come into contact with lots of Americans because they are friendlier. Some of my best times traveling have involved meeting people on remote islands in the PI or Indonesia that had never seen a white person.
Familiarity breeds contempt as they say, TJ being a case in point. Not that I blame the locals who develop distaste for gringos as we often act like obnoxious, arrogant overlords, but just as I prefer fresher, less jaded, girls I prefer fresher locations. Medellin still has those places, but not in Poblado.
I only go to Mexico because it close by and I dont want to possibly go t jail or pay for expensive service in San Diego. Tijuanians.... In my opinion have the "natural selection' mentality. ie only the stong survive. They bump into you and dont even say excuse me. Hassle the hell out of Americans and have the "now" attitude. The hookers are pretty much the same.
I have renamed Tijuana ..... San Diejuana!
Lol
Forget Lima (see below comment) Santiago is cool, but MDE is the place to go if you want a non-pro!
LBIn a issue of Maxium from a few months ago I have read that Santiago is red hot! How is Santiago with the tourists? Not flooded like Medellin has become, I hope.
Hmm, no way I can decide on a clear second place. I'm still out looking for the next best spot.
Medellin is number one for me. Bogota, Cali and Cartagena are all about the same level in my book. Wouldn't bother me at all to revisit those cities. But I have this urge to go out there and look for new scenes and places.No doubt Medellin has better looking women and more of them. Cali also has some beautiful women peppered in the population, but not nearly the same concentration as Medellin. On a positive note the women of Cali are more friendly and approachable. Where as the Medellin women are somewhat cocky. Why are they so cocky? Because they have so many gringos to choose from. As for Bogota and Cartagena? Don't know, never been there. It is my understanding Cartagena is a coastal city with a great number of tourists, there to visit the beautiful beaches. I have a no info on Bogota except that it has a huge population.
Kickboxer151
06-18-06, 23:23
Ok guys:
I just wanted to post this as I consider myself an expert in the Dental Industry as I own a dental business here in the USA.
Yes dentistry is less expensive in Colombiaand abroad. HOWEVER. One important consideration..... The Colombian Government does not enforce sterlization standards like that of what you make be acustomed to in the USA.
Example: In the USA. Dental offices MUST and have no choice in making sure the Dental Drill and Instruments are sterlized after each patient!
VERY IMPORTANT!!! Spraying their instruments / drills with a disinfectant is not proper sterilzation techniques. Its only disinfecting.
In the USA you have recourse should you be infected at a dental office. In Colombia, Mexico etc YOU do not!
I have met a few very good dentist's in Medellin and they are willing to accomodate the US Standards of sterilzation should you ask.
Just informing my fellow Americans. Should you have any other questions in regards to sterlization in the dental office ..... Please feel free to email me directly.
KB151
In a issue of Maxium from a few months ago I have read that Santiago is red hot! How is Santiago with the tourists? Not flooded like Medellin has become, I hope.
Santiago would have more businessmen and less sex tourists, consequently there are less venues but it is great if you want non pro's! Bachelate(sp) is cool with gringo's but with the current student uprising I would steer clear of the University chicas. Generally speaking around the world the biggest cities (read capitals) have the most action and the best selection. Girls with looks and a penchant for money will always gravitate to the big city.
LB
If he means the Chilean capital, my friends that have been there say the pro scene is not very happening at all. Younger guys with game may do well with the non pros, but IF there is a robust p4p scene it is VERY well concealed.
Plus the climate is NOTHING like Medellin. In fact, FEW cities have a climate as pleasant as Medellin.
Kickboxer151
06-19-06, 20:45
If he means the Chilean capital, my friends that have been there say the pro scene is not very happening at all. Younger guys with game may do well with the non pros, but IF there is a robust p4p scene it is VERY well concealed.
Plus the climate is NOTHING like Medellin. In fact, FEW cities have a climate as pleasant as Medellin.
San Diego does....
Lol.. We have been having pretty good climate here and I tink I might have to turn on my A/C today.
Kb151
How is Santiago with the tourists? Not flooded like Medellin has become, I hope.
Where is this flood of tourists in Medellin? I spend about two weeks a month in Medellin and I don't even see a trickle of tourists, nevermind a flood. Am I just lucky and I always miss them? My apartment is in the middle of Poblado, and while I don't spend all my time there, you'd think I'd see some evidence of all these tourists.
Now let's talk about the big numbers of Gringos or guys who come to Medellin for sex, overunning the city. If the mansion, castillo and VIP are booked solid, how many people is that? 40? Add the Torre Poblado (where I used to stay often and NEVER saw another Gringo) and hotels and how many people are there JUST for sex? Another 40. Let's round it up to 100.
Medellin has 3.5 million people. 40 out of 3.5 million is nothing. Maybe that's the reason I don't run into hordes of Gringos.
BeersTerry
06-20-06, 04:29
I was looking at tourism numbers for Colombia. About .75 million people annually (don't shit on me because I was too lazy to relook the exact number, so it was probably closer to 650,000).
Most of their tourists came from their two south american neigbours.
Just spent 4 days at the mansion, and outside of the mansion, I didn't see a single gringo in the various places I went to, mongering destinations, shopping malls, tourist places, various neighborhoods, etc.
It is refreshing to be a solo gringo in a sea of native Latinos.
So the whordes (with a w) of white guys overrunning the city has a way to go.
Sparkchaser69
06-21-06, 06:11
I have been to Medellin three times since Sept. 2005. Other than hanging out at the mansion or going with a group of gringos somewhere, I RARELY saw another gringo in the malls or any other venue I went to. I saw one fellow that looked european out and about once. If you stay in Pablado you will see some gringos. There is a whole lot more to see in Medellin than pablado, Mangos and Fase Dos.
I actually met my present wife coming back from MDE in the airport in BOG. There are some VERY good women in Colombia for those that are willing to look. My wife is originally from Pereira and has lived in Caracas for the last 22 years. I have met a lot of her girlfriends from pereira, and all I can say is there is something good in the water down there!!!
Sparky
I have been to Medellin three times since Sept. 2005. Other than hanging out at the mansion or going with a group of gringos somewhere, I RARELY saw another gringo in the malls or any other venue I went to. I saw one fellow that looked european out and about once. If you stay in Pablado you will see some gringos. There is a whole lot more to see in Medellin than pablado, Mangos and Fase Dos.
I actually met my present wife coming back from MDE in the airport in BOG. There are some VERY good women in Colombia for those that are willing to look. My wife is originally from Pereira and has lived in Caracas for the last 22 years. I have met a lot of her girlfriends from pereira, and all I can say is there is something good in the water down there!!!
SparkyYou are right. I didn't leave the Pablado area. And I also did the Mangos thing.
Perhaps this explains why it seemed flooded with gringos. Another gentleman mentioned in a previous post the further from the airports you travel, the less and less gringos you will see. I imagine this holds true for any major city in S.A. or C.A.
I'm chatting with her on msn now that I'm back and per her, there are so many gringos hitting on her that she can't remember them all. She said that this is a recent trend over the last year when before that she rarely saw a gringo. While I was there, there was only a rare sighting of another foreigner (unless you were in Fase II which had plenty) by me, but the locals seem to notice the difference.
Bye the way in Fase II it was easy to tell who was local and who wasn't. Obviously the clothes made a difference, but also, the locals rarely tipped the strippers coming off the stage while the gringos always did.
If he means the Chilean capital, my friends that have been there say the pro scene is not very happening at all. Younger guys with game may do well with the non pros, but IF there is a robust p4p scene it is VERY well concealed.
Plus the climate is NOTHING like Medellin. In fact, FEW cities have a climate as pleasant as Medellin.
Having spent years in Santiago, I can guarantee you the climate is awesome, very similar to southern california, and there is no shortage of P4P (in the open), as well as non-pros. I won't go on since this should be thread about MDE.
Congrats on finding your now esposa!
My novia now is also a chica from Pereira ... but living in Cali for now ... nice.
Suerte!
they can always tell a local. Chido: Maybe you could post a little summary of the p4p options in the Santiago section. My understanding was prices are high and very short time oriented. Love to have you disabus4 me of that notion as Santiago is very apopesaling to me for its proximity to Portillo (snowboarding) and Vina del Mar (surf/beach) area.
Having spent years in Santiago, I can guarantee you the climate is awesome, very similar to southern california, and there is no shortage of P4P (in the open), as well as non-pros. I won't go on since this should be thread about MDE.I went to the Santiago thread. Very few posts. Very little information. Perhaps this is a good thing.
Is Medellin like Rio or Bangkok with many tourists????
I've never been there, but I don't think that many European or North American goes there.
So I think, it's still easy to meet lots of non-pros there?
What do they think the experts or the one, who was there????
Thanks a lot for your answer.
Is Medellin like Rio or Bangkok with many tourists?
I've never been there, but I don't think that many European or North American goes there.
So I think, it's still easy to meet lots of non-pros there?
What do they think the experts or the one, who was there?
Thanks a lot for your answer.I dont know why this is such a big issue. We are all gringos here, so whats the big deal with seeing others? I just cant put my finger on the fascination of it. Is it the increase in ***** prices?? If you dont like the flucuation in prices then stay out of the *****houses or obtain better negociating skills. I have payed as little as 150R in brazil for an all nighter with a stunner, while she was charging $200 an hour with other guys. In colombia I have seen KB151 get us two stunners all nighters for 110k a piece when I am sure the price was double for other guys. Oh and 5k for the taxi.
I started going to brazil in 1999 and have made at least 30 trips back since then. There were tons of gringos there then and tons now. It has never stopped me from finding tons of non-pros. If you dont want to see gringos learn some portuguese or spanish. Meet some colombian friends who dont speak any english; not one word. They will surely be more then happy to take you to places where you will be the only gringo in the house and introduce to the finest girls around.
When I was in colombia i went to 8 of the hottest clubs i am sure medillin had to offer and there was mabye 2-3 other gringos there. But was I paying attention to them. Hell no. I was more interested in the hot blond with the tight waist and perfect ass.
Lets switch this forum back to helping guys enjoy the fruits of 3rd world countries and not "Who can spot the gringo?"
Volpone, there are appearently more gringo tourists in Medellin these days but I have not seen one in my one week stay there. I would say relatively speaking there are none when compared to Rio or any other popular tourist destination. Regarding your other question for me it's easier to score a one night stand with a tourist chick in NYC than in Medellin, though for that I lower my standards. Whether or not you will score a nonpro depends on how well you generally do in the States. Anyone telling you otherwise is fooling you. The length of your stay is probably single most important factor after your age and looks (YMMV factors) because Medellin (and Rio for that matter) has that 3rd world mentality regarding the gringo tourist. Why can't these girls just have fun like BA or European or American girls do.
The length of your stay is probably single most important factor after your age and looks (YMMV factors) because Medellin (and Rio for that matter) has that 3rd world mentality regarding the gringo tourist. Why can't these girls just have fun like BA or European or American girls do.
The one thing you can do with a non-pro/good girl is have fun. The problem for many is that fun won't include getting laid. The easiest thing I found to do was to start non pro relationships. I just had to keep them separate from my mongering ways.
This is one change I have taken notice of the Mansion/Castillo. The boys used to do outings to Mango's or Bar-B-Q's or just general parties with good girls/non-pros. I have seen that change to inviting semi-pro & all pros. I believe the reason is it means their guests are not likely to walk away empty handed at the end of the day.
I agree with you that the length of your stay matters but I still would argue the point that the single most important factor is knowing the language in order to communicate effectively with the Paisas.
Cheers,
Cubanut
Cubanut, I didn't mention spanish because I thought that goes without saying ;) MDE is not Cancun where everyone is to get laid hence a 3 date rule applies. So scoring a freebie over a weekend is not guaranteed (I am not talking barrio or working girls). Your best bet is long term stay or frequent visits. I personally find MDE boring (no beach, little or no nightlife on weekdays, nothing to see, no international firms/no work).
Sparkchaser69
06-27-06, 04:06
Congrats on finding your now esposa!
My novia now is also a chica from Pereira ... but living in Cali for now ... nice.
Suerte!
Ricker,
Gracias por las felicitaciones. Qué agarrar!!!
Su amigo, Sparky
Hi all,
Wanted to post my disasterous experience on my return flight from MDE to U.S. as well as to ask for advice on how to go about getting justice.
Well, I booked the flight on Airsaver.com. Flight from U.S. to MDE was marred by bad weather in Houston, but Continental took care of us by putting us in Marriott in Panama and allowing us to catch the next day's flight into MDE from PTY.
On return flight Saturday, I was booked "Atlantic" #8526 from MDE to Cali, to arrive in Cali at 7:10AM. The next leg was Cali to Houston on Continental, whith departure time at 8:15AM. I was a little bit suspicious about the sufficiency of time between the two flights, knowing that international departures from Colombia can be a long deal, but I *trusted* Airsaver.com as well as Continental for making sure that this worked. After all, it IS their business to make sure that I get to my destination. I called Continental the day before the flight and they told me that I'll be flying Avianca to Cali at the scheduled time (6am->7:10AM)
I should have been a little bit sharper at MDE check in, but having spent an all nighter on my last day at MDE whilst a threesome that HAS to be the pinaccle of my admittedly limited mongering experience, and having left the Mansion at 4AM after 30 minutes of frantic packing, paying the chicas etc. my brain was fried. I checked in at Avianca - no one spoke English. They checked my bag, but only to Cali and did not issue boarding passes for the rest of the trip.
Once I got to Cali (about 10 minutes later than scheduled), I had to pick up my checked luggage, walk across to the international section, find the airport tax place on the second floor, then make it to Continental counter. By this time, it was 30 minutes prior to departure, and the Continental guys told me that I bascially missed the flght - I tried bribing the guy $100 but did not work. They told me to call Continental Colombia for further assistance - by whom I was told that no more seats were available on the next (which was next day) flight to Houston and to fly out the next day I'd have to buy the tix and only First Class seats were available for slightly over $1k. I had no choice, as I had to show up for work on monday. I ended up staying that night at Cali on my own expense (did put in a short jaunt to the local Massage place hehe), and bought and flew the next day's flight into the U.S.
I've talked with Continental 2x since arrival, and basically they're saying that there's nothing they can do for me!
One agent blamed Avianca for not checking my bags all the way through. The other agent blamed Airsaver for scheuling flights too close (I haven't contacted Airsaver yet, but I doubt they'll do anything). My point is, it was not my fault that I missed the connecting flight, and had I made the connection, NONE of this should have occured! Somebody needs to be accountable! What if I was hijacked by rogue taxistas from the Airport to Hotel?
I'm not sure what is available for me as a course of action at this point ... I'll of course write a letter to Continental and contact Airsavers.com, but I have a feeling that I'll get the run around. Do anyone have any suggestions/comments???
I also hope that this experience may help save future travelers' some cash, time and mandatory stay at a dump of a city called Cali.
As Ricker always posts, Suerte.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.
When commencing an International leg with a different airline in Colombia, you need to allow a bare minimum of 2 hours between flights. Three hours is much better. In Colombia things get fucked up and delayed with regularity. Get used to it.
Dicker,
Even though you were there 30 minutes before the flight, there's a 60 minute cutoff that has nothing to do with the airlines. They cannot check anyone in outside the 60 minute window - it's locked down (I know, it's happened to me).
Also, NEVER count on getting checked all the way through when using two different airlines, even if they are on the same itinary. It might happen, but probably won't.
One of my beefs with Continental was when I would fly them from Newark to Miami and then take COPA from Miami to Panama/Colombia I could not get my boarding passes or check luggage all the way from Newark. AND COPA IS (or was at the time) 49% OWNED BY CONTINENTAL!!! They could never get their acts together re: CO/COPA issues - so forget about it when using two totally different airlines.
And what Tom says about 2 hours minimum is right on the mark. I also tried Continental's nonstop from Newark to Bogota which gets in at 8pm and the last Avianca flight from BOG to Medellin was at 10pm, 2 hours away. I missed my connection 3 out of 4 times and had to spend the night in Bogota (on my own dime of course).
I've since switched to Avianca and have nothing but great things to say about them. I've flown them internationally 20 times this year and they only screwed-up once - a 3 hour mechanical delay In New York that caused the crew to time-out, so they rescheduled takeoff for 1am Saturday (should have left 7am Friday. And even that worked out - I went back to my place and worked from home and when I went back to JFK they handed me a certificate good for Business Class travel anywhere Avianca flies - good on ANY flight ANY time. Made me a happy customer.
I don't think that there is anything that you can do about missing your flight. Your only chance of recourse is with the people that sold you the ticket, and even then it is your responsibility to call someting like a short layover to there attention.
My experiance with Continental airlines and flying out of MDE was a positive one. Last year my return trip from MDE to Houston via Panama got hosed because of Rita. In the end I had to leave a day early and fly COPA to LAX but it did not cost me anything extra.
RG.
Kickboxer151
06-27-06, 19:36
I dont know why this is such a big issue. We are all gringos here, so whats the big deal with seeing others? I just cant put my finger on the fascination of it. Is it the increase in ***** prices?? If you dont like the flucuation in prices then stay out of the *****houses or obtain better negociating skills. I have payed as little as 150R in brazil for an all nighter with a stunner, while she was charging $200 an hour with other guys. In colombia I have seen KB151 get us two stunners all nighters for 110k a piece when I am sure the price was double for other guys. Oh and 5k for the taxi.
I started going to brazil in 1999 and have made at least 30 trips back since then. There were tons of gringos there then and tons now. It has never stopped me from finding tons of non-pros. If you dont want to see gringos learn some portuguese or spanish. Meet some colombian friends who dont speak any english; not one word. They will surely be more then happy to take you to places where you will be the only gringo in the house and introduce to the finest girls around.
When I was in colombia i went to 8 of the hottest clubs i am sure medillin had to offer and there was mabye 2-3 other gringos there. But was I paying attention to them. Hell no. I was more interested in the hot blond with the tight waist and perfect ass.
Lets switch this forum back to helping guys enjoy the fruits of 3rd world countries and not "Who can spot the gringo?"
WELL SAID JOSE!!
Your tooooooo funny!
Medellin Executive
07-01-06, 01:21
VIP has rooms available until the 4th of July, then the're booked.
gents,
finally, the vip's website is up and working.
http://www.clubvipmedellin.com/
it's a nice site for high speed users but the dial up people will be waiting awhile. i already explained that to albert last month.
i met the girl in the yellow top at a party at vip's, she didn't smile then either.
cheers,
cubanut
Medellin Executive
07-04-06, 22:37
be careful cuba. someone is going to acuse you of being a pawn for the vip.
lol
the x
gents,
finally, the vip's website is up and working.
http://www.clubvipmedellin.com/
it's a nice site for high speed users but the dial up people will be waiting awhile. i already explained that to albert last month.
i met the girl in the yellow top at a party at vip's, she didn't smile then either.
cheers,
cubanut
ClubVIPmedellin
07-05-06, 00:39
My name is Albert, I am one of the partners in the buss just wanted to let everyone know that we finally have our website up and running.
www.clubvipmedellin.com
Club VIP's mission and goal is provide you with first rate american standard living arrangements. Our one-million dollar, private, fully-gated, residence located in the highly regarded neighborhood in medellin offers all guests the utmost in security and elegance. You can competely relax in your air-conditioned private room, in the elegant and enormous livingroom with fireplace, hang out in the bar or on the pool-view terrace. It truly is a spectacular setting to enjoy the social life of Medellin.
If anyone has any questions please write me at ilcalbert@gmail.com or you could rwach me at 305-3948939 or 240-2359488
i copied this from someone else who posted a warning today. be careful out there, boys.
"i arrived in medellin last week and thought i would be ok by taking a taxi from the airport rather than having a family member meet me in rio negro. what a big mistake this was. the ride from the airport was fine. i kept an eye out to make sure we weren't being tailed, and we weren't. upon reaching my home in itagui, i saw a couple of motorcycles turn around and approach the taxi as the driver and i were about to unload my luggage. the person seating on the back of one of the bikes jumped down and pointed a gun at the driver and myself, demanding the taxi's keys, my cell phone, and the little money i was carrying. he then proceeded to speed away in the taxi with all of my luggage, including my carry-on bag which had my passport, green card, and credit cards. i think i was targeted because airport taxis here are marked with blue stripes on the doors, making them easy to spot, and the thiefs figured they would take a chance and see if i was carrying anything of value. i planned on staying here for 4 months, and so i brought just about all of the clothes i owned, plus a whole bunch of new clothes, and gifts for my family. i was left standing on the street with just the clothes on my back. i've been told here that thefts are on the rise again after some years of steady decline. please be careful when you come here. i've read a lot of good advice on this site about being safe in colombia. i can't recall ever hearing about airport taxis being targeted, but now that it's happened to me, i would recommend stearing away from these marked taxis, as they could make you a target. this is the first time that i've had something happen to me here. i was last in medellin from november of last year until this past march and had no problems whatsoever."
Here is an interesting article regarding a less than opprobrious view of prostitution in Medellin, as well as an opinion on Aussie Greg, the proprietor of Colombian Love Connection and Medellin Mansion, in http://colombia-reports.********.com/2005/12/it-used-to-be-only-women-from-low.html
“It used to be only women from a low social class who charged for sex, now it is all social classes. It is no longer stigmatized as something lower class. Before they did it because they didn’t have work, now many young girls do it simply because they want pocket money to spend on discos, designer clothes, plastic surgery, etc. When a woman is beautiful they often fall into this life. We are acquiring this culture which worries me, like in Cuba and Rio de Janeiro.”
“Marco”, a nightclub owner, talking about the phenomenon of the “prepagos” in Medellín, middle-class girls, often models, who work as prostitutes. It has only really taken off in the last few years. The University of Eafit, supposedly the best university in the city, is particularly known for this.
“The have always looked for rich men, obviously, but didn’t charge money. Then the next day they would start crying, saying. “I don’t have enough for university”, etc. Or they would say, “Give me a present,” such a watch, clothes, a ticket to Cartagena or Miami. There are various levels. But now it has changed because they are losing the shame, and they are no longer embarrassed to charge money. It can be 50,000 pesos ($22) or less, up to 200 million pesos ($88,000) for someone such as a famous model who is on the TV. Who pays them? Drug traffickers. No one else has that kind of money.”
There are, if you look for them, agencies, and web sites who manage this kind of business and charge a commission, but mostly it is done by word of mouth and personal recommendations. “Someone has to vouch for the client,” Marco said. Is organised crime involved in it? “Yes, but only as the clients... These women don’t care about education, manners, looks; money is enough, only money. With money it is all possible. Some of them do that thing where they hit you with sticks- what do you call that?”
“Fetishism?”
“Yeah.”
“Pablo” is a director of the Zona Rosa Corporation, which looks after the interests of bars, restaurants and clubs in the Zona Rosa, the city’s main night spot. He told the Daily Journal that everyone who moves in those circles has numbers of some prepagos, “Medellín is a city of models. Plastic surgery has really taken off in the last ten years, and the concept of beauty has changed. For your birthday now, they give you bigger breasts. You can get plastic surgery on credit, as with a car, or a mortgage, pay 50,000 pesos ($22) for month. It can be viewed as a kind of investment.”
“Michelle”, 22, was operated on just last week. It cost $1,500. She has been working as a prepago for about a year and half. She claims to have slept with the FARC commander known as El Mono, and one of the Castańo brothers (founders of the AUC), as well as various drug traffickers and businessmen. She has been to one of the fincas of “Macaco”, one of Colombia’s top paramilitaries, in the company of several other girls. “No one in my family knows.”
She hopes to meet someone who will treat her well, preferably a foreigner. “There is an agency called Colombian Love Connection run by an Australian. He’s very good-looking, but he’s a dog. You hardly earn anything, but people do it for the contacts… I’ve got friends who have married a Italian, a gringo and a Canadian.”
She asked if I wanted to go to a strip club with her. I made my excuses and left.
(For The Daily Journal)
A social worker friend of mine in MDE calls them grillas. I have heard estimates that more than 25% of the girls in MDE between 18 and 30 have engaged in some kind of prositution.
Great Article, now if we could only get those started in Panama.
This part cracks me up:
She hopes to meet someone who will treat her well, preferably a foreigner. “There is an agency called Colombian Love Connection run by an Australian. He’s very good-looking, "BUT HE'S A DOG". You hardly earn anything, but people do it for the contacts… I’ve got friends who have married a Italian, a gringo and a Canadian.”
my first time in medellin and all i can say is, i can't wait to come back. yes, the girls of brazil in my opinion are more passionate, but something about the colombian women does it for me. not only are the women beautiful, everything is cheaper here. taxis in the city cost no more than $2.00usd. a good dinner will cost about $7.00 usd. most of all, the people here are all so friendly and i'am not only talking about the working girls.
since this was my first trip, i stayed at the mm.. i will write about that in the mm section.
i arrived around 9:00 p.m. sunday night. like other have stated, i went upstairs in the airport to the atm to get some money. no problem and headed for the mm.. i didn't realize how far the airport to the hotel was. one thing cool, the driver was pointing out some interesting sites. one was a park where he stated alot of the old escobar gang still hangs out. another park where all the gay and lesbos hang. then some of the street girls. he also pointed out some of the street girls with, as he stated, chorizo. no thanks.
finally arrived at the mm.. greg greeted me and asked if i wanted to meet robert and some of his group at deja vu. i was tired but what the heck. deja vu was pretty packed and i met robert. cool guy and he had some of his guest there with about 6 girls. i guess they were semi-pros. i also met marisol, one of the mm receptionist. really cool person. about 2 hours in, i hit the wall. told the guys i was leaving and headed straight to bed. what a great start. i guess being 51 we start to [CodeWord116] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116) out faster.
day two, monday. i didn't know it was a national holiday. i had a lonely planets book and i don't remember reading about it. anyways greg was cool enough and bought over a couple of girls to make sure we were entertained since all the establishments were closed for the day. greg also brought in some pizza and coke and we made the best of it.
i was with a girl named natalia. cute and flaca. in the bedroom i would give her a 7. not bad for the first girl in mde. after we were done, we went to the mall with greg and his girlfriend to have some ice-cream. the place was called mimos and the ice-cream was wonderful.
over the ice-cream i told greg i wanted to take a tour of the city, so he set me up with his other receptionist for the next day.
day 3, at 10:00 we set off for the tour. paulina was my guide. a very pretty spinner. first stop, mr escobars grave. impressive, but not as impressive as evita's grave in buenos aires. then off to the metro where we took the train to the metro cable. once on the cable car we rode it all the way up, and all the way down with me taking many pictures of the city. this was fun but when the sun came out of the clouds and with the windows being so big, it got pretty hot at times.
from there we got back on the metro and headed for el centro. here we did alot of walking, taking more pictures, going to the museum. i finally told her i was tired and lets have lunch. we ate at a sidewalk cafe which wasn't bad but wasn't great. i can't remember the name. after lunch she asked me if i wanted to see anything else. i lied and told her no and we headed back to the mm.. what i didn't tell her was because my time here was so limited and i lost a day because of the national holiday, i wanted to see all the casas, massage places and whatever else i could find.
to be continued....
After dropping Paulina off at the mm, I took a cab to Energy. What I notice about the massage places was I think I like the terma set up better only because you can interact with the girls before hand. At the massage places here, they come in and like a Nevada brothel. One by one they come in and tell you there names, not that I'am good with names in the first place, but here, it was impossible to remember names. I think I was distracted when they would take off their robe so you could see their bodies.
Anyways I took Paula, and she could easily be Brazillian by her performance. All I can say is wow. I'am not a fan of anal, but I think if any of you are, she would be the one. I say this because at one time, I had one finger up her twat, the other up her rear. No resistant just alot of heavy breathing. When we were through, I was really satisfied. I thought I was finished for the day, but time is running out for me, so I tell the cab driver, take me to New Life.
By the way at Energy, for the hour, it came out to $70,000 pesos which is roughly $ 26.50 usd.
New life was only $50,000 pesos per hour which is about $ 19.00 usd. Yes, I can live with that. In my opinion, New life had the better looking girls than Energy but would I find one as good as a performer as Paula? I had to find out.
I chose Natasha, a complete stunner. I showed some of the guys back at the mm her pictures and they were all impressed. Sorry guys, she told me not to put her pictures on the internet. As far as performance goes, I would have to rate her a 6. Nothing special except for her looks. But hey, for less than $20 dollars, I couldn't really complain especially since she was a solid 9+.
There were two more girls I would have done but I guess its the jet lag, I had enough for the day. I went back to mm and Greg asked if I wanted to go to Fase dos. I told Greg I just wanted some dinner and some sleep. I noticed Paulina was still working so I asked her if she wanted to have dinner with me. She said yes but didn't get off until 8:00 p.m.. No problem. 8:00 came around and off we went. Someone had suggested La Doctora and it is walking distance from the mm. I wanted to have at least one common dinner of Colombia food. We get there, it is right next door to the casino next to the Mcdonalds. No lights are on so we asked the guy at the casino and he says they went out of business. Great only tonight and tomorrow night to have typical Colombian food. Since the mall was next door, we went to the food court. She had some fruit, I had steak. It wasn't bad but warning to newbies like me down here. If you like your steak medium, tell them you want it medium well. You will know what I mean when you get here.
After dinner, a short walk back to mm, and a nice long rest for me.
Day 4 my last full day here in mde. The night before I had asked Greg to see if Natalia could come over. After seeing her picture on his website, she is totally my type. Greg said no problem and invited a whole bunch of girls to the pool.
But before the pool party I went to the casa on 33 and I believe 65. I went here on the recommedation of a previous poster. I can't remember who, but thank you. I met up with Veronica and if you are into oral skills, she is right up there with the best of them. Here the pricing was $50,000 for 50 minutes or $70,000 for an hour. I chose the 50 minutes. When she got to the point of giving head, she asked sin condom for another $20,000, she didn't have to ask me twice. She was the only girl and I have to admit, I didn't have alot of them, to give head without a cover, and she was very good. Highly recommended.
After that session, I had lunch at a place called lomo steakhouse. Not great but not bad. I had another steak which was pretty bloody because I had asked for medium.
After lunch, which was about 12:30 I headed over to Loutrons.
Now, this place has been the topic of sorts because of their high prices. They charge $142,000 per hour or roughly $ 54 usd. I do have to admit, I was skeptical about coming here but once here, I do have to admit, overall they did have the best looking women overall.
I picked Alexia sp? A very good looking flauca. Her performance with the exception of the cbj was a solid 8+. No complaints here. There were at least 6 girls I would have done here. It is now about 2:15, time to get back to mm and see if Natalia is there.
About 3:00 pm I see Natalia from the first day come to the pool. I immediately knew I screwed up. I wanted the other Natalia but wasn't clearer when I spoke to Greg, totally my fault.
After a while there were about 8 girls at the mm.. A couple I would have done but between the casa and loutrons and not having Natalia there, I pretty much was not going up with any of them. I did find out from Greg that the other Natalia works at Fase Dos so I guess if there is a next time, I will be there.
Even though I didn't take anyone up, the pool party was still alot of fun. I met some good guys there and traded some stories with them.
Around 5 pm., the party was ending. I still wanted a typical Colombian dinner so Mirasol recommended a place called Hato Viejo. I highly recommend this place. I can't remember the name of the dish, but it included, rice, beans, egg, banana, chicarrones, and some kind of meat.
The meal was excellent and the people there were oh so nice. The hostest kept coming over to my table making sure everything was fine. Maybe she felt sorry for me seeing I was eating alone. After telling her this was my first time there, she brings me a gift. A souvenir shot glass with the name of the restaurant on it. Way too cool. So of course I tell her the next time I come to Colombia, I would repay her in kind. She gave me her e-mail and that just about made my trip. After dinner, back to the mm to see if anything was going on.
At about 7:00 pm.. Some of the guys were going to loutrons so I told them I would go with them. My final conquest. It was kind of funny, when they brought the line up down, Alexia was there, gave me wink and a smile. I wanted to take her up again but since this was my final play I chose someone else. I picked Valentina. A tall blond girl with fake tities. Her performance was a solid 7. In hind sight, I should have taken Alexia again. But I guess that is why we come here, to explore the new territories.
Tired, I went back to bed for the early wake up.and back to the sex prison.
Escort King
07-06-06, 03:22
great report mate.... I will definitely use some of the recommendations... girls and that restaurant
Its a very simplistic reason, why we go abroad and buy sex. Its because most of us are just plain sick & tired of dealing with american women and their crappy attitudes. American women come with tons of baggage, we are fed up with dealing with their neurotic idiosyncrasies of feministic materialism, who are not happy unless they are casteratiing us, feminizing us and making us feel guilty about everything. IN OTHER WORDS THEY ARE A PAIN IN THE ASS. Therefore we head to simpler places where a man is still a man, and women know how to treat us like men we are. AARRGH
Its funny american TV shows are all full of sexual innuendo. They portray the fact that if your not getting any or you don't have a live in girl friend or if your not a fag, your abnormal. Yet they vilify us mongeres who pay for sex. I believe its a contrived conspiracy by those same neurotic materialistic feminists who are heading up the mongerer vilification movement, because more and more red blooded american males are heading to foriegn countries to buy sex and not spending their hard earned money on them. Therefore, they can't make themselves feel better by making us miserable. The catch 22 is they are the ones who are chasing us away HA!!
Scooby
Scooby doo ... that's the best post you've made to date ... don't know how it relates to the Medellin thread ... but it sure rings true!
Suerte!
Senor Amable
07-07-06, 13:20
Right On Scooby. . . I couldn't have said it better myself!
Saludos,
Amable
Right on Bro, you really described the reason we travel very succinctly. Now if you could just have a politcal epiphany and realize the disaster that is W's administration you'd be very close to obtaining enlightenment. (:
Great post Scooby. I think it should be put on the home page as the mission statement of ISG. j
Well Scooby, you did a good job explaining why many of us travel to Medellin for female companionship.
To help understand why so many males are unhappy with American women there is a great book that I would suggest. It is "The Predatory Female" by Rev. Lawrence Shannon. ISBN: 0961593806
Look it up at amazon, think they have 4 copies for sale right now. I try to reread once a month or so.
Seems like people are always trying to decide if they should use the taxi service from the Mansion.
If you are going to stay at the Mansion and this is the first time there for you, I would suggest that you use it. The Mansion is hard to find and most taxi drivers can not find it. Save yourself the grief and just pay the extra to get there. If you are not staying at the Mansion, you do not need the service.
Thanks to all who have made posts in this section as the information was very valueable to me.
I ended up staying at the Hotel Intercontinental and had a local non-pro show me around town for the first two days. We hit Parque LLaras for a couple of Agulla light's and then Mangos and danced to 5am. Did you know at the Parque LLaras you can get beer for $.75us. or 1800 pesos.
Next day we did the ride up the mountain, metro, metro-cable, lunch , more walking, lots of taxis and lots of parks. Went to another disco and danced another night to 5am again.
I finally got out myself after the holiday, and made it to Loutron, New Life, Fase II and Oviendo Central Commerical mall and Mayorista Central where there were many street girls, I enjoyed a few there, again there the beers were 1800 pesos and the girls wanted 20 to 25 Mills, but it was for short time 1/2 hour. I only wished I could of seen this street action on Friday or Saturday night, next time.
I saw alot of the city and had a great time, never felt in danger, only got ripped off by one taxi and found that the people and food of Colombia were great.
Found another good place to hit the atm, Home Mart , Carulla food store, when I checked my transaction log it was 1us/2635peso and a $1fee.
I will return soon, flights are cheaper to Colombia than Costa Rica and Avianca provides good service. I did get a little screwed up when leaving and paying the tax, but some nice girl who spoke english told me I had missed a line.
Adios.
Hey guys, wanted to see if anyone can confirm first hand the pricing of the chicas at the club, Fase II.
I was told by one of the waiters: 150K for 1hr with a girl in a room on premises (price of room is included in this fee), 250K for the girl (1hr) take-out plus 150K for the house (ie. bar fine)
I know it has been universally suggested that you get the phone number of the girl that you like and arrange for action after she gets off work (around 4am) or before work some other day.
But what if you want the hot chica that night & did not want to wait until 4 or 5am by the time she gets to your hotel OR you don't want to fuck on premises. Can it be true that you have to shell out 400K for 1hr takeout?
Very curious,
Almotu
As a longtime user/leech of this site, I figured about time I cough up something. Certainly nothing that hasn't already been said, but I hope to amuse you. Something is extremely awry with the formatting of the report, its not intentional, I hope the admin can fix.
Five days in Medellin.
Getting there and away
For those living on the east coast, MDE isn't the easiest place to get to, with fares ranging from ~$600 - $1000 at most major hubs
(MIA and NYC seem to have some good deals). I actually found it cheaper to fly to Aruba first (~$300) spend 3 days, then continue on
to Medellin (AUA-MDE on Avianca is very cheap, like $400 or less). For those unaware, Aruba's redlight district imports *exclusively* colombianas, on 3-month working visas. Also of note is that STD tests are a requirement to obtain this visa. For more info on the Aruba portion of this trip, check my post in the Aruba forums. Bonus: on the leg from AUA-BOG, our plane was populated by what appeared to be an entire Colombian school group of ALL TEENAGE GIRLS. MY FUCKING GOD. All eyes just glued to us. Could not
have been a better omen for the trip ahead.
Accomodations
After hearing all the fuss, I had to find out for myself, so I stayed at the Medellin Mansion. As I hate when people crowd the forum with advertising cruft, I will post in the MM thread regarding my experience there.
Communications
Grab a motorola V180 quad band gsm phone on ebay for about $30. This is a sturdy unit that operates most places in the civilized
world. If it doesn't work, chances are it's somewhere you don't want to be anyway (Africa, etc). On the corner of the street the
mansion sits on are several cell phone accessories dealers. They will hook you up with a used SIM card for ~20,000COP, chances are
it has no minutes, but you can also purchase refill cards there. Note: be sure to obtain the PIN, as you may inadvertently lock the
card (Lina was instrumental in unlocking and refilling the cards for us non-spanish speakers).
Money
Do not bring US dollars with you, or you're just asking for it. Not widely accepted, the few people they are accepted by will have a
liberal idea of the exchange rate. There is a bank/atm directly across the street from the mansion, which will apply the proper
interbank rate (2573 pesos to the dollar as of 7/1). This atm however charges something like $5/transaction. Take a left and
continue down ave. el poblado to the blockbuster, which has an atm thats a bit more gentle. During the wee hours of the morning,
there are two atms in the main outdoor plaza of the oviedo mall. Warning: this seems to be the nighttime hangout for local kids. So
if you want to be ogled by hot teenage girls while you withdraw, this is the spot. Conversely, you might draw jealous looks from the
local colombianos, but nothing worse than that.
Food
We suck at the local culture thing. Honestly, we spent most of the time in the various restaurants in the Oviedo mall, of which there are numerous good ones, and some sucky fast food ones. The steak place in the food court is off the chain. Also, on ave el poblado is an excellent seafood place, Donde Bupos. I had like a low-grade flu all week so I wasn't in the mood for exploring local cuisine... mostly papas grande from McD's. A shame, as I know the local food is good, I ate arepas all week in CTG.
Safety
I was bracing myself for an environment like SJO. What I was shocked to find is that Poblado is more like Times Square. I walked
alone with impugnity up to 2am. Centro, eh... more like SJO. Not terrible, but be on guard and try to be done there by 10pm or so. I
didn't spend much time out of Poblado, as this is my first trip to MDE and frankly, there was no reason to leave, it has everything
one would want. Perhaps next trip I will explore more, but vacation is about relaxation first for me, so it was nice to not be on
guard.
Transportation
Road infrastructure is excellent, on-par with any major US city. Next time strongly considering a rental car for safer exploration.
From the airport, I opted for the Mansion's pickup service. Cost $60k, driver was on-time, with our names on a plaque. Private car,
not taxi. For reference, on the trip back to the airport, price was $45k with a generic taxi hailed from the street. IMHO, its worth
the $15k on the initial trip to have a (somewhat) accountable driver already familiar with the destination. Taxistas in general were
the honest, hardworking type, and all use the meter (stick to the yellow cabs, servicio publica). You can go anywhere for dirt
cheap, average trip being around $5k, longest (to a local spot in centro) 8k. Regarding chica spots- contrary to popular belief,
these spots are NOT known by all taxistas, so be sure to have detailed info or an address at the very least.
Pro Chica Venues visited
Loutron
The top spot, in price and quality. Loutron is walking distance from the mansion. An unmarked white gate, beep the horn and an
attendant leads you inside. They have several bar/cabana type rooms in which you sit and have a drink while the chicas are paraded
in wearing doctor coats (that is a kick to see). About 12 chicas on display, all fuckable, 6 hot, 5 absolutely scorching, and only
one I wouldn't fuck, an EXTREMELY tall black chick, gorgeous body but just too damn tall, like jolly green giant tall. Price 140k/hr
or 170k 2hrs.
Mythbuster - "loutron chicks are scared to come to the mansion"
This is total and complete bullshit. Not only did Greg say this was ok, but as he was driving us to Loutron, he even broke down how
to go about it. Go in there, fuck a chick you like, get the phone number, and bring them to the mansion after Loutron closes. He
also said it was possible to call Loutron and have the girls sent over, but if you do this during business hours, you pay the
takeout fee (150k I think). This is the exact same fee you would pay taking them out regardless, and has nothing to do with Greg.
Just avoid the fee by hooking up during the off-hours.
Energy
Our taxista had a bit of trouble finding this one. Its an unmarked door in a sort of storefront; we eventually spotted it due to a
hot chica stepping out the door. Indeed, this is certainly a step down from Loutron. The girls are all very sweet, but the quality
just isn't there. Its certainly worth a look, but I came here to fuck supermodels, how about you? We got there kinda late, saw a
small 6 chica lineup, the two best ones I could describe only as fuckable, but attitudes are A+. Poor girl was tired, so get there
early. $60k/hr
Face Dos
Now this is what the fuck I'm talking about. Medellin's main chica nightspot, if you're stuck late night without a hot chica, this
is the place to come. Open till 5am (we closed it down one night). There's got to be about 50 chicas in here, like 80% very hot,
dogs were very few and far between. I shoot high, and had what I would say was one of the top 3 in there.. gorgeous lightskin latina
named Alison. Black shoulder-length hair with red highlights, and what must have been some increadibly expensive next-gen boobjob (I
have never felt implants so soft). Just an absolute pornstar, and very sweet (quoted me the proper price for onsite, which is 150k-
some girls will quote 200k, and when called on it, will try to downsell you to 40 minutes). I hadn't been able to get a clear read
on the takeout price, just that it was high, so I took the plunge (Alison was worth it) takeout fee is 150k to the house, then you
negotiate an additional price between you and the girl. Alison quoted me 1hr/150k, 2hr/300k, all night 500k. She also indicated
daytime availability (F2 opens @ 9pm, so anytime prior to that is fine). Pricey for sure, but I think worth it... if you're lucky
enough to get ahold of her, tell her el ****** negro says hello. As for drinks, F2 is a bit of a clip joint. A bottle of
Absolute/pitcher of jugo is gonna run you like 80k. But back to chicas. I fucked Alison onsite, the rooms at F2 are quite nice,
these little cabana-type deals in an open area next to the club. Total PSE.. she is just absolutely wild, omg that amazing ass. 150k
well spent. She thought I was muy bueno too, so I got the digits and call her up tomorrow, but due to various scheduling conflicts
(dick in another chica) I can't meet her, so say I'll see her at the club later. We get there around 11pm, kinda early, but dear god
she looks hot in this tight white top & jeans. I'm getting progressively more tilted on Absolute, my vacation budget is ahead of
schedule due to the awesome exchange rate, and I'm seriously considering that half-mill peso all-nighter. So I cave around 2am, and
we head back to the MM for a night of hot PSE and she leaves around 8. Ok, now downsides (never is that easy, is it?) she was kinda
grabby. Can't say I blame her as I've just forked over a doctor's salary to feel out her insides for a bit. I ended up paying for
cigarettes (10k) "special cab" (12k, lol) then once back to the crib she's hungry, so 15k to have her cabbie friend deliver her
something. Yeesh.. what I do for poontang. Anyway, just unbelieveably hot, I can't recommend the all-nighter, but fucking her onsite
for the $150k is right on the money. I hope this answers Almotu's questions regarding F2 pricing.
I found the hooker game at F2 to be a little strange, perhaps the more experienced medellin guys can shed some light on this. So the
deal is, these girls are all rotating through the club, the lazier ones sit around, but the really hot ones are sitting with guys
chatting, drinking, etc. Every X amount of minutes a chica will get in costume, dance a 3-song set, then come down off the stage and
circulate the crowd, eliciting 1-2k tips from each table of patrons. If I had to guess, I'd say a chica makes 100-150k in tips per
set, and they get maybe 2-3 sets a night. Now here was our dilemma. When we found a chica we liked, we'd wait for her to come down
and ask for a tip, make a bit of small talk, como estas, then ask her to the room. They'd smile and say yes, finish clearing the
room for tips, go back and change, then they would just start circulating again. Like they just forgot or something. OK I've seen
that before in the states, that "you don't have any money" look. Fair enough, I did get mistaken a few times for a colombian kid,
and my two gringo companeros and I are all under 25. We had to be extremely persistant to fuck the ones we wanted, kinda have to
flag them down repeatedly like cabs. Anyone else experience this? I would think they would jump at the chance to make the quick
$150k, but perhaps I am underestimating the amount they make per set; perhaps they are loathe to miss one. Anyway, persistence wins
the day. Or tip the waiter to go grab the girl for you, I think I saw some guy do that (good idea guy).
Some other notes on F2, there is this tall, and I mean motherfucking TALL ass black chick in there named Wendy. And she does this
kickass thing where during her show she sets the stage on fire while swinging over the flames and almost jump-kicking the shit out
of the patrons with her huge-ass boots. This was by far the coolest thing I have seen in any strip club, ever! you need to tip the
fuck out of this ***** if you see her. And unlike the huge gangly black chick in Loutron, omg she is so fine, I want to fuck all 10
feet of her. This place was awesome, we came here like every night, culminating with the last night getting riproaring drunk, mi
amigo is shouting at hookers "como se llamas!! GODDAMMIT ***** COMO SE LLAMAS!!!" lolol in-fucking-sane.
Non-Pro chica venues visited
Oviedo mall
Whoa. Ok let me say it again, like that dude from Blossom used to. WHOA. 2 mins walking distance from the mansion, this gargantuan mall is filled with some of the most absolutely fucking slamming women I have ever seen in my life. It is just positively unreal. The ratio if face-meltingly hot women... something like 8 out of 10. And they are all staring RIGHT AT YOU. Like you've got a fucking cock springing out of your forehead or something. Shit, I need to find a way to move here, something... like maybe 1 in 10 women in the states looks like that. And I guarentee that ***** don't want a damn thing to do with me, lol. So do yourself a favor and spend alot of time here, if you speak spanish, you will clean up. Other than that its a sick mall, better than any we have where I'm at, all kinds of swanky shit, kenneth cole, etc.. I was impressed.
Mangos
Holy shit man, this place is the motherfucking spot. I was a little distressed by the midget and the transvestite at the door calling me gordo but once I get inside this place is slamming. I had seen the website and was expecting something real campy, but I was pleasently shocked. The dancers were hotter than any of the chicks at F2. Just an extremely high-energy hard-drinking good time. Greg invited some non-pro chicas, who I must say were just absolutely way hotter than the pros he had by the pool, and just so increadibly sweet. I was a bit apprehensive about the non-pro thing since my spanish sucks, plus I hate clubs and don't dance, but I had so much fun with them I for damn sure will be able to by the time I come back. So like 4am and I'm drunk as fuck, I stagger off to a cab and crash in my bed, cursing to myself about how I could fuck some pussy if the room would just stop spinning. I wake up around 11am to find my gringo companeros are not in their room. Uh-oh. Suddenly I am awash in unrelenting dread. What the fuck am I going to tell these kids' parents. I explicitly told them I'd protect their sons from kidnapping. What the fuck. As I'm thumbing through my cash stacks counting out bribes, awaiting a call from the FARC commander, in barge my two friends looking like they went 16 rounds with Tyson. Turns out their cell ran out of minutes (great excuse guys) and after closing down mangos @ 5am, proceeded to hit several local clubs in what my friend so tactfully referred to as "the murder cut" they end up at an extremely posh (in-room waterfall!) love hotel with 4 of the non-pro chicas. Awesome!! However alcohol wins the day, after 12 hours of heavy drinking, they can't even consider performing (to the chicas dismay apparently) and are sent home packing. Poor guys, we'll get em next time.
So yeah, I didn't see much, but not bad for 5 days. This is maybe my 6th monger trip, and it did change a bit for me... I'd fucked so much gorgeous pussy in medellin, I got all fucked out, and actually had more fun with the non-pro chicas. Kinda like my dick broke, the idea of fucking hoes seems kinda lackluster. The pros in MDE (as opposed to say, CTG) seemed a bit jaded.. a little like states bitches, they look good and they KNOW it. So, my resolution over the next 4 months is to sharpen my spanish, and then I'll undertake my most ambitious project to date... a week of lush debauchery during the Miss Colombia '06 pageant in november, I hope to see yall there. I'll be the black dude in the suit bribing guards and waving around fake press credentials, trying to talk his way backstage. Haha... good shit.
Later y'all.
Member 9578
07-11-06, 16:44
[QUOTE=I was told by one of the waiters: 150K for 1hr with a girl in a room on premises (price of room is included in this fee), 250K for the girl (1hr) take-out plus 150K for the house (ie. bar fine)[/QUOTE]150k is what I paid. One girl stayed way longer than an hour, she said it was expensive to leave for the evening so we hooked up the next day. Took a different girl another time and someone called when the hour was up and she insisted on more money to stay. I dont know if it depends on the girl and how busy the place is.
Seemed like the Face II girls are a little rougher, it takes a certain type of girl to work til 4am in that enviroment. I thought Louton girls were better for hooking up after work and all were happy to give out their cell # and could meet up much earlier in the evening.
kos hunter
This is my understanding of Medellin:
The average wage for most people is around $1 to $3 per hour.
There are a few, but not many tourists (gringos) in Medellin.
The cost for a decent looking chica is around $75 to $100 dollars
My question is, who is paying these ladies these outrageous prices? Are the locals coughing up this amount of money? I just got back from Cartagena and am tired of paying these outrageous prices, in a country where the average wage is around $1 to $3 per hour. It appears to me that Medellin is ruined just like everywhere else.
The cost for a decent looking chica is around $150, 000 to $200, 000.
My question is, who is paying these ladies these outrageous prices?
My guess is politicians/businessmen and Narco's and the expat community of course.
All countries in LA have there $7 *****houses in the barrios for the local working class. Most of the guy's currently going would be afraid to venture to far from the Mansion/mangos/loutron/mcdonalds circuit.
The problem is generally you get what you pay for, unless you have the time to search out the gems and the one's that know where they are aren't going to be stupid enough to post it on the internet.
It is the same way here in Lima, unfortunatley there is a another local board that has no problem broadcasting the gems and then she becomes to busy to take on new clients or raises her prices!
The good news is there are still young model types around that have there own places and you can get them for $15.00.
The moral of the story is if you do not have the money to compete with the big boy's then go to a spot that is not the "flavor of the month"
Right now Quito, Ecuador is a literal "goldmine" of previously unknown or uder reported $7 and $20 bars. Just watch the thread over the next year or so and see how many guys all of a sudden start reporting!
LB
I normally avoid them. I pay around 60K(US$24) for very decent chicas in CTG and around 40K in MDE. But I don't spend much time in LDV or Loutron. In fact I've never been to a casa in MDE.
Jesi James
07-13-06, 12:44
I normally avoid them. I pay around 60K(US$24) for very decent chicas in CTG and around 40K in MDE. But I don't spend much time in LDV or Loutron. In fact I've never been to a casa in MDE.What areas are your favorites for that price?
Thanks
LB: I think he meant 150,000 to 200,000 Colombian pesos, less than $100. It is not just big shots paying it, it is most of the gringos going to Medellin now days. Tom is one of the savy ones who knows how to avoid paying those prices.
Yes there is SOME correlation between price and quality, but it is not absolute at all. I have had better times with chicas from both San Diego (bar and street) and other casas like Energia, Abydos, Miel y canela etc. Loutron was a reasonable 70,000 before the gringo invasion.
I assume you mean Perutops.com when you talk about the website discussing the best performers in Lima. Kind of surprising there is not yet an equivalent in Colombia.
Quito has its drawbacks like heavy street crime (I heard WAY more personal stories of being mugged in Quito than just about anywhere) and the altitude (takes a couple days to adjust and you WILL notice it if arriving from sea level). It is also closer to Lima cool than Medellin perfect tempaturewise. I did not get to monger because I was sick from the marea (altitude sickness) for the first several days then the GF arrived from Colombia). Just walking around town I can say with asurance that I saw more lookers in Lima and Medellin than Quito. In fact, Guayaquil and the coast has the reputation for WAY better chicas than Quito, and I did think them a bit bettert but still prefer Lima for chicas to be sure.
El Cubanito
07-13-06, 17:46
This is alot of Information. Thank you for all of the details. I personally leave on July 20. I have printed your report. Thanks man...
El Cubanito
Hoof Hunter
07-13-06, 20:20
Really surprised that no one posted this yet, considering everyone's dying to go to Medellin. LOL!!! This story is from the actual victim. Take whatever you want out of it, but just remember, it could've been any one of you here. Medellin is not as safe as some of you seem to be lured into believing by staying in Poblado. This dude was shot in Poblado.
http://www.worldlovecollege.com/Messages/MessageEdit.asp?Mode=Read&School=Main&ScreenWidth=0&MessageID=28141&ParentID=0;
I am writing this with the good news first. I am out of the hospital after a stay of less than 96 hours and am in stable condition, all things considered. Que paso? I got to star in my own movie as lead character. Here is what happened.
I did the wrong thing, at the wrong place, at the wrong time...
I have decided to write this in order to answer some of the blood and guts questions which I have started to receive. On Monday, June 12, 2006, I was returning home in a taxi. I had spent the day running errands, in particular attempting to get cash advances and ATM withdrawals from a bank as part of getting my money together to buy a condo here. The bank branch where I usually stop in would not give me as large a cash advance as they might otherwise, so the always-friendly woman at the side desk wrote down the address of another branch where I could go to get another cash advance. One of the advantages of that other branch is that they have late hours. I got a cash advance and then got something to eat. At 7:20pm I grabbed a taxi and went home. The taxi had nearly arrived at the apartment where I am staying. There is a construction area nearby which had forced the taxi to stop, and make a hard left turn before proceeding up a hill. It was getting dark and I had trouble seeing very well. At 7:27pm, just seconds after the taxi started to proceed, I saw through the left-side rear taxi window a man running around crazily, apparently agitated and and waiving around a gun. I could not understand what the man was yelling in Spanish, and I froze up and didn't know what to do. I was also not completely sure at the time if he was yelling at me, maybe he was yelling at the taxi driver instead. (Later, the taxi driver claimed the gunman had said "Give me your money, you son of a *****, all of it, or I will kill the two of you.") It was a surreal moment and I had trouble comprehending the meaning of the gun I was looking at. My first reaction could have been to move toward the left-side rear taxi window and find out what the man wanted. But I didn't move. I just sat there for one split-second too long.
The next thing I knew was there was an explosion and the entire window disintegrated into hundreds of pieces onto the car seat next to me. A bullet had been shot in a downward trajectory at the window. Because I had shifted my body slightly to the left instead of straight ahead, the bullet missed my left leg. Immediately the calf of my right leg was hurting terribly and I could feel it badly swelling up. I didn't know how badly I was hit but I knew that if I didn't lose consciousness quickly, and if I could feel all my body parts, then that was a good sign. I reached into my pocket and pulled out $200 worth of pesos. I reached over to my left and handed it through the now-missing window. I did this all without speaking. The man grabbed the money out of my hand and disappeared. Both the taxi driver and I froze in shock for a few seconds. The taxi driver had closed his eyes, and when he heard the gunshot he thought I was already dead. My biggest fear was not about my leg, it was that the man was going to get into the taxi with me and have me empty my pockets, kidnap us to another location, or just finish what he started with another bullet. I waited an awkward moment and surprisingly nothing happened. I yelled at the taxi driver to hurry and drive forward. In the one minute period drive to my apartment I called three friends on my cellphone. I finally reached somebody on the third attempt. My friend Juan answered. I cried, "I have been shot, I am bleeding all over the place, this is no joke! What should I do?" He directed me to a nearby hospital, and met me there 5 minutes after I arrived. The taxi driver drove like a madman to the clinic and was honking at everybody in heavy traffic and I was afraid of another accident. "Ten cuidado! Ten cuidado!" (Be careful, be careful!) Things quickly stabilized after I arrived. I looked down at my right leg and saw two holes, one just below and to the left of the knee where the bullet went in, and the one lower down on the other side where the bullet came out. The bullet made a hole 7 inches long, just missing the knee where it entered and the shin bone where it exited. Xrays quickly determined that I had no broken bones. The bullet had missed two arteries by a quarter inch but broke another one. The following afternoon maybe 18 hours later surgery was done to try to repair the damage and sew me up.
On the one hand, on the other hand...
Had freezing up in the taxi gotten me shot? I don't know. Had I reached over to the window to roll it down, I might have taken the bullet in the head instead. On one hand, if I had not shifted my knees to the left and towards the shooter, I would probably have gotten bullet holes in both legs instead of just one. On the other hand, had the shooter aimed just inches in either direction the bullet would have missed my body completely. Still, if the man had worse aim, or wanted to kill me, I would be dead now. For a person with a bullet hole, I was told I got off really easy. A lot of much worse things could have happened.
The real pain and suffering was due to boredom laying there in the hospital...
I have gotten a lot of support from everybody. The nurses came into the room every 30 or 60 minutes around the clock for 3 days. I got help with everything except getting enough sleep. For 4 days in the hospital and in the days that would follow, everything I did had to be performed with only one useable leg. I got to watch all the TV I wanted, including shows and movies with people running around shooting each other with guns. By Thursday night I was going crazy. The nurses would switch veins each day because the IV fluid stopped flowing properly. Finally, another nurse had trouble and started probing with her needle for a better entry point. It hurt like hell. I told her "This is my body. I have already had a hole put through me before, now you want to put another hole into me and your %#@*&! needle is hurting me. I will take a pill, but I will not accept any more needles!" She complied, and in an hour I started on oral antibiotics and didn't use the IV again. I was getting my "fight" back. I knew my time in the hospital was coming to an end and they agreed to let me go early. Today, Friday, just hours ago, I was released and went home. The medical bill? $2,700. Had this been the USA it would have been $15,000 or more. I don't know how long it will be before I can use my right leg and walk normally, but it will happen. It will be weeks or months before I can walk and months before the pain goes away. Right now it is bandaged up, and cramped all the time, and I cannot use it yet. I am beginning to use a wheelchair. I am just happy to be back in my apartment where I can access the "real world" of the Internet and telephones and can eat what I want. I have started on a hundred unread emails.
On the way back home I had to pass the scene of the crime. I couldn't see any evidence of the shooting. Most of the glass ended up inside the taxi and not on the ground. I wanted to see the exact spot where it happened, and face the horror of it once and for all. My life was not spared because the shooter had some great respect for humanity. It's like I have walked away from a fatal train wreck with only a scratch. And yet, so easily this could have all ended up completely different and this email would not have been written. At least, not with this version of events. It is good to be alive. Life is short and fragile. Enjoy it.
The above was written exactly 96 hours after the "special moment".
Addendum, July 7 - miscellaneous notes
- Does this change my attitude about being in Colombia. Not much, but it does make me realize the danger of combining "higher risk activities" like banking with going to a more dangerous location and doing so after dark. Had I done only one or two of these things, nothing would have happened. I did all three at the same time.
- This could happen anywhere. 2 weeks later my friend in San Jose, California was robbed at gunpoint - also at night.
- People ask me does it hurt. Not too much, unless I try to exercise, move around in the wheelchair, get physical therapy, or stand upright.
- The gunman was part of a two-person motorcycle team. I never saw the motorcycle or its driver. The gunman wore a helmut. Apparently I had been watched and followed after leaving the bank.
- After the shooting the left pocket of my jacket was found to be full of glass.
- The taxi driver recovered the bullet lodged in a seat.
- Until I can get my heel stretched enough so that it will touch the ground when my toes do I won't be able to walk normally.
- I am using every treatment modality possible to heal faster.
- Vicodin (for pain) seems impossible to find in Colombia. Difficulties getting satisfactory pain medication quickly was therefore the only substandard part of my medical treatment experience. After research and various delays I started on Oxycontin about 11 days after leaving the hospital.
Some clarifications and responses regarding the shooting
1. I was followed after doing banking at Centro Comercial Del Sur, not El Centro. I was followed into Poblado.
2. I agree with HEAT that this event would have been less likely to happen if all citizens of Colombia (or any country) were armed or had the right to be armed. A gunman would have to think twice about when somebody would defend themselves and fight back. Here there was and is no such fear. Every person has the unequivocal moral and human right to defend themselves against clear threats to their life.
3. HOWEVER, I agree with Pete that having a gun in this particular situation could well have escalated events into a fatal gunfight. I was up against a professional criminal who had the element of surprise, the darkness, and a partner on his side. This situation was better to be avoided rather than have a test of my gun skills versus the other [two] person's in this situation.
4. My leg looks relatively okay visually, but this is deceptive. The damage and inflamation are mostly on the inside where you cannot see it. The entire area below the wound all the way to my heel is painful to the touch. I engage in ongoing daily battles with my leg to reduce inflamation and improve motion. The biggest problem is there is damage or problems with the tendons such that my foot won't lay flat on the ground; it won't lay flat in a 90 degree angle to my lower leg. I have to tug on my foot with force just to get it to do 30% of what it used to do (bend up). And I don't quite understand why yanking on rock-hard tendons is supposed to be good for those tendons. Obviously I need somebody to explain to me the physiology. I need to resolve this situation so I can walk again.
5. Obviously I need moral support.
That's it for now.
Talking about MDE post Escobar/Uribe and the American investment bankers heading down there.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=azy7kD0Awy2g&refer=home
LB: Tom is one of the savy ones who knows how to avoid paying those prices.
I agree about Tom, but many of us find it to risky to do SW in a strange country. I have only done one or two in Lima, but as I live here and have gotten to know them or know of them from friends the risk is much less.
Yes there is SOME correlation between price and quality, but it is not absolute at all. I have had better times with chicas from both San Diego (bar and street) and other casas like Energia, Abydos, Miel y canela etc. Loutron was a reasonable 70,000 before the gringo invasion.
Again I agree! My point being that in the $7 casa's it is rare to find any 8's or 9's although they exist and when you find one do not want to webcast it!
I assume you mean Perutops.com when you talk about the website discussing the best performers in Lima. Kind of surprising there is not yet an equivalent in Colombia.
Beats me and now that they have a english version (sort of) It is more user friendly.
Quito has its drawbacks like heavy street crime (I heard WAY more personal stories of being mugged in Quito than just about anywhere) and the altitude (takes a couple days to adjust and you WILL notice it if arriving from sea level). It is also closer to Lima cool than Medellin perfect tempaturewise. I did not get to monger because I was sick from the marea (altitude sickness) for the first several days then the GF arrived from Colombia). Just walking around town I can say with asurance that I saw more lookers in Lima and Medellin than Quito. In fact, Guayaquil and the coast has the reputation for WAY better chicas than Quito, and I did think them a bit bettert but still prefer Lima for chicas to be sure.
The coast for sure,thats why I mentioned "Montanito" in a previous post.You are starting to see a inflow from the provinces and better looking girls in the bars (see Tunagra sp. reports in Quito forum)Obviously MDE and Lima has much prettier women in the malls and on the street.
Anyway, the above referenced report has some interesting statistics for those who are considering the move!
Bueno Suerte,
LB
I just got back from my first two-week trip to Colomobia, spending about 4 days in Medellin. Though I didn't have any safety issues whatsoever, in that time:
- A gringo was kidnapped outside of Medellin by Rio Cauca by the FARC
- A guy who was staying in Robert's Castillo mansion was held up at gunpoint late at night in el centro. He was wearing a gold chain around his neck.
- The sister of former Colombian President Cesar Gaviria was killed on Thursday during an apparent attempt to kidnap her.
- A person was robbed by a motorcyle duo coming out of the airport in an airport designated taxi.
But personally, I never felt much danger in Medellin (or Cartagena), though I didn't do much walking late at night, and stayed mostly in the generally safer and mas rico area Poblado (and Laguito and the old city in CTG) . I always looked around before and after going to an ATM, and never wore any jewelry or looked flashy as to cause attention (outside my gringo looks, which I can't do much about).
Medellin and Colombia in general appear to be safer than what is known by the general US 'sound bite' informed population. And I plan on going back.
But as the station chief in Hill Street Blues used to say,"Be careful out there!".
HH,
I did not mean to step on your report, by the way it is a must read! Also I forget the link, maybe AOL but there was a "Hand Grenade" thrown into a popular restuarant in Poblado 2 days ago and I think it said only 2 people were killed.
LB
That's it for now.Yikes. Good to have some perspective.
I'm pretty paranoid regarding atm practices, and never at night.
No solution for the hand grenade tho, that's pretty wild.
On my first night in Medellin I found two really cute SG's on the street around Show San Deigo & did an all night dupla for 120,000cop each. I was paying between 100,000 & 150,000 for all night, & they all stay till at least noon.
Hoof Hunter
07-14-06, 01:24
HH,
I did not mean to step on your report, by the way it is a must read! Also I forget the link, maybe AOL but there was a "Hand Grenade" thrown into a popular restuarant in Poblado 2 days ago and I think it said only 2 people were killed.
LB
No biggie for me. I've done Medellin enough times already and will keep doing it......low-key.
I've only been posting the safety stuff here, because it appears that there is an upsurge of violence in Medellin, esp. involving gringos. This is particularly interesting because gringos were usually left alone, except for the petty stick-ups. In the past 3 months, that's not been the case.
I was actually in Colombia when the grenade incident occurred. I just figured that the "gringo being shot in Poblado after ATM" thing needed to be here. Seems like Medellin is really sliding backwards since the AUC disarmed.
Suerte a ti!!!
Australiano Greg
07-14-06, 03:52
The hand grenade that was thrown at the table of 4 guys that were having lunch (two guys died) in El Centro, it was a Paramilitary thing, not involving Gringos. Its a power struggle or turf war between different Para groups.
A friend of mine works in the building where it happened and was there at the time.
The Aussie.
That anecdote (the guy getting shot) is sobering indeed. And I would NOT take any solace in the fact that this guy was carrying big money because the robber OBVIOUSLY was not tipped off to that fact or he would have not run off after getting only 200$ in pesos.
Robert's guest showed terrible judgment (going to centro alone at night wearing gold chains and got what he deserved IMHO; he is lucky he JUST got robbed and not killed too!)
Finally, this comment about Colombia needing more liberal gun laws to deter crime is nuts! 90% of Colombian males ALREADY carry a gun most of the time, yet that does not appear to act as a deterrent to all the robberies!. Heatluver (and the victim who expresses agreement with him) have been reading too many NRA propganda pieces. Colombia, like the US, needs way LESS guns, not more.
MiamiHeatLuver
07-14-06, 18:46
Wrong guy Surf, I never expressed any opinios on GUN LAWS especially in a country that is not my own. Though I whole heartedly agree that less guns are better and not to arm an already somewhat unstable country. I really like to keep politics out of my posts when possible! Regards
That anecdote (the guy getting shot) is sobering indeed. And I would NOT take any solace in the fact that this guy was carrying big money because the robber OBVIOUSLY was not tipped off to that fact or he would have not run off after getting only 200$ in pesos.
Robert's guest showed terrible judgment (going to centro alone at night wearing gold chains and got what he deserved IMHO; he is lucky he JUST got robbed and not killed too!)
Finally, this comment about Colombia needing more liberal gun laws to deter crime is nuts! 90% of Colombian males ALREADY carry a gun most of the time, yet that does not appear to act as a deterrent to all the robberies!. Heatluver (and the victim who expresses agreement with him) have been reading too many NRA propganda pieces. Colombia, like the US, needs way LESS guns, not more.
I have a very sad story to tell. My friend had just come back from Medellin several days ago after several trips since last year. He met what he thought was a beautiful, intelligent and loving women. Turns out she was playing him from the start. He is very smart man but way too trusting when it comes to the heart. His story ended as follows; when he returned from Medellin on May 9th he tried to kill himself a couple of days later by taking too many pills with the intention of blowing his brains out with a gun. Fortunately, he was so screwed up by the pills he passed out before he could shoot himself. He now lies in the hospital in a coma with a 25% chance of living and most likely a vegetable if he recovers. He has no health insurance due to his relationship with this girl because he gave all he could to her for her and her son’s well being and to put her through Medical School. He is one of the most giving and loving person I have known in my life. He would give the shirt off his back to help another person and not just for the ones he loves. The very sad thing about this whole thing is that even if they were just friends, he would given as much as he could to help her. He told me that even if love was not a factor he would have tried to help her and her son to make a good life. This woman goes by several names and they are follows: Nicole, Ana Marie, Alexis and probably several others. Her pictures will follow at the end of this writing for all of you to beware. Treat her with caution and hopefully with total disregard and meanness as that is what she deserves. I have done some research since my friend’s demise and this is what I have found out. He gave her over 2 thousand dollars so she could attend Medical School and a $1,000 dollars per month for living expenses. I think she is working with some men of which she gives some of her winnings too. It could be a man from the US (Steve, Colas), Australia (Greg), Holland (Thomas) or a Colombian by the name of Carlos. These names are not certain and I would not mention them except that these are names he spoke about and he was very uncertain as if they were co-conspirators. Anyway I apologize to any of these men if they had nothing to do with this. If that is the case, please respond, and please stop any relations you may have with her as she will make you pay as well. I spoke with the University through a translator and she is not enrolled and the semester as it turns out does not start in the time frame that she had told him. I would appreciate any feedback as to her activities if anyone knows. I intend to make sure she pays dearly for her evil ways as this is all I can do to help other unsuspecting men. I am told that her English is very good and she does translation for many of the girls when they meet English speaking men. Please help me take her down and think of the life she has destroyed and the other’s that she has most likely hurt or will in the future.
BeersTerry
07-14-06, 22:05
According to Poorbuthappy.com
2 killed and 13 wounded. grenade thrown at Restaurante Metropolis.
Arm em all to the teeth, maybe all the males will bump each other off and that will mean more piasas lining up just waiting for me. HaHaHaHa (diabolical laugh)
Hi Everybody,
I'm erasing old photos from my hard disk. Someone's moving in the house, and you never know where she might snoop around! Hopefully Jackson will live forever so that the shots can always be viewed here.
I apologize that this post is not current information. At the time of my original report it wasn't possible post more than one photo per report, so I held back the ones below. Here are links to the report & original photo of Valentina (probably my best P4P ever) and of Karen. I doubt either of them still works at the locations I described, but isn’t it a pleasure just to look at Medellin girls?
I remember my trip very fondly, and I'm jealous of you guys who are there now.
Regards,
Duke
Alvero the taxi driver.
One night when me and my novia were heading back to the Medelln Mansion after dinner at a resturant in Parque Lleras. We hailed a taxi and were picked up by Alvero. Now when ever I get in a taxi in Medellin I always ask if they speak English. When I asked this of Alvero, to my astonishment, he started conversing with me in perfect english. He informed me that he had lived in the U.S. for several years and learned english during his time there. Upon arrival back at the Mansion I introduced him to Greg the owner. Since he could speak english perfectly he was asked if he would be one of their drivers.
Now when I say he speaks perfect english I don't mean knowing alot of words and being able to figure out what your saying after a few tries, like alot of Colombians, I mean perfect english. I used Alvero as my private driver the rest of the time I was in Medellin, he was a great tour guide. He translated for me and I had no problems at all it was great. Now that Ive returned home, I keep in touch with him and he does me favors every now and then. I sent him 600,000cop, 550,000cop for him to take my novia to get a TV and 50,000cop for his time. Everything went fine he picked her and helped her pick up the TV and even installed it for her. He also has a friend who is a college professor who is going to teach her english for free Im just paying for the books which are pretty cheap. Alvero will also pick you up at the airport and deliver you safe and sound at your location. He is completly trust worthy and as alot of you know it is hard to find someone like that in a foriegn country.
Alvero has given me permission to give his number to individuals who are interested in his services, I will if you pm me. Take advantage of his services you won't be disappointed.
Scooby
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07-19-06, 15:11
"Alvero has given me permission to give his number to individuals who are interested in his services, I will if you pm me. Take advantage of his services you won't be disappointed. "
Hey Scoob,
I used him several time, took me to the mall to get a new camera, and then he took Andrea and I to the airport when we flew up to Santa Marta. Yep, was happy with him plus he doesn't drive like a damn fool!
T-42 days here, send me his phone number on CH.
Thanks,
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Hunglow1625
07-19-06, 15:56
Alvero the taxi driver.
One night when me and my novia were heading back to the Medelln Mansion after dinner at a resturant in Parque Lleras. We hailed a taxi and were picked up by Alvero. Now when ever I get in a taxi in Medellin I always ask if they speak English. When I asked this of Alvero, to my astonishment, he started conversing with me in perfect english. He informed me that he had lived in the U.S. for several years and learned english during his time there. Upon arrival back at the Mansion I introduced him to Greg the owner. Since he could speak english perfectly he was asked if he would be one of their drivers.
Now when I say he speaks perfect english I don't mean knowing alot of words and being able to figure out what your saying after a few tries, like alot of Colombians, I mean perfect english. I used Alvero as my private driver the rest of the time I was in Medellin, he was a great tour guide. He translated for me and I had no problems at all it was great. Now that Ive returned home, I keep in touch with him and he does me favors every now and then. I sent him 600,000cop, 550,000cop for him to take my novia to get a TV and 50,000cop for his time. Everything went fine he picked her and helped her pick up the TV and even installed it for her. He also has a friend who is a college professor who is going to teach her english for free Im just paying for the books which are pretty cheap. Alvero will also pick you up at the airport and deliver you safe and sound at your location. He is completly trust worthy and as alot of you know it is hard to find someone like that in a foriegn country.
Alvero has given me permission to give his number to individuals who are interested in his services, I will if you pm me. Take advantage of his services you won't be disappointed.
ScoobyHi Scooby,
What are his fees that he charged?
Thanks
Guys,
I managed to get close to a married woman here in Medellin but untill recently she's always refused to even give me a kiss. Maybe because I will leave Medellin in a week she finally agreed to spend some hours with me, next monday afternoon.
What I need now is information about hotels to spend those hours with her. I mean hotels, where the rooms can be booked for a couple of hours. And what's important, hotels that are not located in the centre of town or at Poblado.
It's not worth it for me to book for a day, as I have to return home on time where my wife will be waiting.
When I left Medellin took me & my novia to the airport waited 3 hrs till my flight then drove my novia back home for 50,000cop. As with any driver I always negotiated a price for the night I payed no more than 60,000cop for him to be my personal driver & translator for the night. But everone is different I have only been to Medellin once and found Alvero towards the end of my trip but he was quite reasonable.
Australiano Greg
07-22-06, 17:04
Alvero, the taxi driver.
Just to let every body know that Alvero does not work for the Mansion anymore since he over charged two guests for there airport pickup, he charged them $30.00 each in stead of the normal price.
His excuse, it was just a joke.
The Aussie.
JudgeSchmails
07-22-06, 19:33
Hey Xion,
Good report! Right on the money with no exageration whatsoever. BTW, ask your Boston compadres how much that plush late night party hotel room cost last Friday. I bet they don't know as by the time I could shake off my hangover from that crazy Friday night/Saturday morning, you all were checked out.
I do have some pics if you all want to see them. You would have to get me your email or send me a private message. Then I can send you the pics of the hot paisa that loved your boy and he can prove it was not a myth. She loved him! And she was smokin!
Well, we all know how well banning guns has turned out in Washington DC has turned out. After all, its a utopia now that guns are banned there.
That anecdote (the guy getting shot) is sobering indeed. And I would NOT take any solace in the fact that this guy was carrying big money because the robber OBVIOUSLY was not tipped off to that fact or he would have not run off after getting only 200$ in pesos.
Robert's guest showed terrible judgment (going to centro alone at night wearing gold chains and got what he deserved IMHO; he is lucky he JUST got robbed and not killed too!)
Finally, this comment about Colombia needing more liberal gun laws to deter crime is nuts! 90% of Colombian males ALREADY carry a gun most of the time, yet that does not appear to act as a deterrent to all the robberies!. Heatluver (and the victim who expresses agreement with him) have been reading too many NRA propganda pieces. Colombia, like the US, needs way LESS guns, not more.
Menteng, I think you are really looking for a motel, which is a short term room for couples. Hotel usually means a regular place for travellers to stay.
Not sure why you needed to ask on here? A taxi can sort you out straight away.
There is one called Punto Cero which is one of the expensive places. There are also a whole cluster around La Estrella (out past Envigado).
Check this link for more info: http://www.guiacereza.com/moteles/index.php
Thanks for the info Greg I'll have to be more leary of trusting people. Man i'm so naive too bad I usually try to see the good in people.
Finally, this comment about Colombia needing more liberal gun laws to deter crime is nuts! 90% of Colombian males ALREADY carry a gun most of the time, yet that does not appear to act as a deterrent to all the robberies!. Heatluver (and the victim who expresses agreement with him) have been reading too many NRA propganda pieces. Colombia, like the US, needs way LESS guns, not more.[/QUOTE]
Why can't you just make a point without always thrashing someone or a politcal stance in the united states. The NRA has nothing to do with what happened to this gentleman. You and I have political differences, but man you have a lot of hostility towards anyone who may be to the right of your political views. As a person who reads your posts and can construe that you are not stupid, I wish you would knock this shit off................ You can send me an e-mail if you want to rant about the political right, GW Bush, Gitmo etc... but spare these other people, okay.........
Gun laws leave law those who obey the laws defenceless against criminals. do criminals obey the gun laws? no, of coarse not, but the law abiding citizens do obey the laws. FACT: in the U.S. the cities with the toughest gun laws have the highest rates of crime. and when even tougher gun laws are enacted, the crime rates in these cities increase. New Jersey happens to have the toughest gun laws in all of the nation. And ironically Newark and Camden are the number 1 and 2 car jacking cities in all of the nation if not the world. Jersey City cracks the top 10 list as well. If these car jackers knew that each citizen could possibly have a pistol under the seat, wouldn't they think twice before committing the crime? But the criminals know that citizens in New Jersey are not allowed to carry, which makes them easy prey. Point being: CRIMINALS LOVE GUN LAWS! AND THE CRIMINALS IN COLOMBIA LOVE THE GUN LAWS AS MUCH AS ANY CRIMINAL IN THE WORLD. Wish I could pack in Medellin, but I can't. I am a law abiding citizen.
Menteng, I think you are really looking for a motel, which is a short term room for couples. Hotel usually means a regular place for travellers to stay.
Not sure why you needed to ask on here? A taxi can sort you out straight away.
There is one called Punto Cero which is one of the expensive places. There are also a whole cluster around La Estrella (out past Envigado).
Check this link for more info: http://www.guiacereza.com/moteles/index.php
Thanks for the reaction bro. I used the word "hotel", as in Jakarta (my hometurf) that is the common word. But you are right, "motel" is a better description for the purpose. I will check the url.
word is that an affluent gringo owning property in Cartagena is joining the stampede and is buying a large house in Medellin to convert it into yet another lodge for visiting mongers. Appreciation in Cartagena real estate (people are talking about 50% annually) has apparently generated more investment capital.
Wonder what the over/under is in Las Vegas on number of mongering lodges in Medellin by year's end. Avianca ALREADY has a nonstop to NYC (maybe American too by now). Medellin, like Orlando but without the rollercoasters. ):
Que Ladilla
07-24-06, 23:04
Rutly, I'm glad to hear that you're law abiding, but there are other reasons why carrying a gun in Latin America is not a good idea. Far from being a deterrent, a gun is a bigger prize than whatever is in your wallet. I personally know two expats, both long-term residents, who were assaulted for their guns. Both were severely injured and lost their weapons (but not their wallets). I've also heard second-hand stories ending in death. But I've never heard of a gringo successfully defending himself with a firearm (outside of his home) in a city. It's a different matter for ranch/finca owners.
Walking or driving in a Latin city thinking that a gun makes you safer is a dangerous delusion. The bad guys always have the advantage of surprise, and they know what they're doing. This is not a 2nd Amendment debate, it's a practicality of personal safety South of the border. If someone's not happy without protection, hiring professional security is the way to go.
They can build as many as they want in Poblado. The boys will be hard pressed to find the other very nice barrios. And, if they don't know where they are looking, they could end up in very sad shape.
I know of another Gringo who has owned a large house near Parque Lleras for over a year. He'd like to tear the house down and build a hotel.
A few hundred Gringos invading Mango's and Loutron will not affect me at all.
word is that an affluent gringo owning property in Cartagena is joining the stampede and is buying a large house in Medellin to convert it into yet another lodge for visiting mongers. Appreciation in Cartagena real estate (people are talking about 50% annually) has apparently generated more investment capital.
Wonder what the over/under is in Las Vegas on number of mongering lodges in Medellin by year's end. Avianca ALREADY has a nonstop to NYC (maybe American too by now). Medellin, like Orlando but without the rollercoasters. ):
If this is true then I would bet the house on the over if it is set at 3. At least by Feb anyway! ;-)
Escort King
07-25-06, 02:14
Funny thing is a huge influx of high end lodging may bring prices down for that... but too many guys will bring the prices up for the girls....
There is another guy from Cartagena who just bought a massive property in Medellin. He has been staying at VIP for over a month so I think he may be in business with them. The place he bought is about 4 times larger than the mansion but as I understand it will not be competition since he will charge a lot more than the mansion. He also owes a giant house in Barranquilla on a private golf course for mongers but does not advertise this and often denies it.
word is that an affluent gringo owning property in Cartagena is joining the stampede and is buying a large house in Medellin to convert it into yet another lodge for visiting mongers. Appreciation in Cartagena real estate (people are talking about 50% annually) has apparently generated more investment capital.
Wonder what the over/under is in Las Vegas on number of mongering lodges in Medellin by year's end. Avianca ALREADY has a nonstop to NYC (maybe American too by now). Medellin, like Orlando but without the rollercoasters. ):
I have not posted in the Medellin forum before, so my greetings to all. I have never been to medellin before, and I was thinking about heading over next week(solo), but I wonder if this Ferias de Flores is a positive factor or a negative one for a single guy like me who is into the pro and non-pro scene.
I have been to Bogota, Cucuta, and Cartagena before, as well as many other places around central and south Am. But I don't know how big of a deal this event next week will influence the overall scene in Med.
Also, I was checking out the Dann Carlton Hotel website, and it seems that the advertised rate for a single is 349,000 pesos per night, isn't that a bit steep? I know that MM and Vip seem cheaper, but I am of hispanic decent, and I speak the language just as well as I speak english, so I don't require the need to stay in a place that will help a person with the language barrier. Then again, maybe I should stay in one of those two places. Anyone have any suggestions for a place that is near Pablado, but for a reasonable rate. Not cheap( cause you get what you pay for), but reasonable. I usually do my homework, but I am short on time, so all helpful suggestions are very much appreciated> Thanks.
Hoof Hunter
07-26-06, 03:54
I've stayed at the following places in Poblado without issue. You will need to call immediately.
- Edificio Torre Poblado Cra 42 No 9-28 - www.torrepoblado.com - (COP110.000/nite last yr) - call for the rate, ask for weekend rates - very nice apartment styled place - 2 blocks down from Parque Lleras and many discos and restaurant, 3 blocks from a supermarket, about 1/2 mile downhill walk to Exito and Metro station
- Hotel Plaza Rosa - www.plazarosa.com - COP138.000/nite in March-06 for 2 people - located a few blocks up from Parque Lleras - nice facilities
- Hotel San Lorenzo de Aná - Cra. 39 12-08, Tel. 266-7021 - COP112.000/nite. - more like a family-run bed and breakfast - approx. 6 blocks from Parque Lleras in the hills surrounded by residences
I know of a couple more, not in Poblado, but very clean and safe, nonetheless. And in neighborhoods where you'll see fewer gringos. You'll get a truer Colombian experience, esp. since you speak Spanish. Let me know.
I have not posted in the Medellin forum before, so my greetings to all. I have never been to medellin before, and I was thinking about heading over next week(solo), but I wonder if this Ferias de Flores is a positive factor or a negative one for a single guy like me who is into the pro and non-pro scene.
I have been to Bogota, Cucuta, and Cartagena before, as well as many other places around central and south Am. But I don't know how big of a deal this event next week will influence the overall scene in Med.
Also, I was checking out the Dann Carlton Hotel website, and it seems that the advertised rate for a single is 349,000 pesos per night, isn't that a bit steep? I know that MM and Vip seem cheaper, but I am of hispanic decent, and I speak the language just as well as I speak english, so I don't require the need to stay in a place that will help a person with the language barrier. Then again, maybe I should stay in one of those two places. Anyone have any suggestions for a place that is near Pablado, but for a reasonable rate. Not cheap( cause you get what you pay for), but reasonable. I usually do my homework, but I am short on time, so all helpful suggestions are very much appreciated> Thanks.
Thanks for the info. I have already booked my flight and my stay at a bed and breakfast within Pablado. I am going solo, and I look foward to my first adventure in Medellin.
I spent 5 weeks in Brasil during June and part of July, so this should be a different scene, but with the same objectives. Should be fun trying to distinguish the differences between the Pisas and the Brasileras. If you happen to be in town, dinner is on me, thanks again for your help. Laters!
After numerous refusals by the WG’s to do bareback fucking I finally hit luck. Not with a WG, but with an amateur! Due to her marital status, it did cost me some effort wooing her into a motel but how sweet it turned out to be.
Thanks to Cachorro who showed me the right way to look for motels, we ended up in Punto Cero. A very nice place, where I booked a Suite that comes with yakuzi and Turkish bath for 65K pesos.
I can describe what happened in the room, but it will be a rerun of facts we all know. The bottom line however is, that it seems that you’ll have to conquer an amateur to be able to do it without a condom in Medellin.
The guy I was talking about (planning mongers lodge) is different from what the other member mentioned (the guy with the huge place in BAQ).
Mangera: Guess you are already booked BUT MOST (if not all) of the casas will close for at least part of the Feria week. There are musical events, partades and like offering chance to meet non pros BUT for monbgering I'd pick a different week. About 2 weeks later is Colombiamoda when all the top models come to town for a series of fashion shows. THIS is the week I would aim for.
Menteng: I've gottren bbfs from a couple working girls in MDE but only once on the first night.
Luver Of Chicas
07-27-06, 00:58
I'm new to this board as a long time member of another one, but have been mongering for over a decade and 100+ trips. I went to Medellin with a buddy this past week for a first trip and to see something new as I'm a dedicated Rio monger. Medellin is a great city, but not the easiest P4P in my opinion. If your short on time and don't speak the language, fork over the extra dinero and go to Rio or somewhere else, don't bother with this city.
We hit a lot of the places mentioned on this board and my thoughts:
1. Loutron - they only had 7 girls on a Saturday and the max we are told is 10-15 depending on the day. I was told by some experts not to bother with the others. The girs in Loutrno can't hang out with you like in a Rio Termas if you want them to hang out while you enjoy a drink unless you pay, it was around 50,000 pesos for 1/2 hour for them to sit with you, definitely out of their minds!
2. Prices - for what I call a quality chica, you going to spend 150,000 COP for short time. My buddy who always likes to overpay, was quoted 500,000 COP for an allnighter, only because he likes to pay $$$, my friend agreed to 400,000 COP.
3. Safety - never had a problem, but have felt more comfortable in other places like Rio, San Jose, Manila, Bangkok.
My overall impression is the people are great and a beautiful city. For those that are worrying that Medellin will be overrun by Gringos, you won't have to worry about this one. I will dig a little deeper in my pocket and go to Rio instead! As Medellin will never beat the grand daddy of all monger destinations in the Western Hemisphere atleast which is Rio.
Menteng: I've gottren bbfs from a couple working girls in MDE but only once on the first night.
Hi,
As I have little time left to find THOSE working girls, I'm concetrating on amateurs. A friend of mine told me to hunt in the group of women who are older than 30 years. It is worth it! After the encounter of last tuesday, last night I paid my second visit to Punto Cero with another MILF. No fucking as she was having her periods, but the BBBJTCWS was more than satisfactory.
Saturday I will have a blinddate with a girl of 20 years. I hope it will be the perfect ending of a rather disappointing stay in Medellin.
Curious as to know why you did not have a great time. Too high of an expectation? Nightlife/ Attitude of the women/ dangerous? What exactly? Thanks.
Anyone know if there are any citibank atm's in Medellin? Or is it better to take cash and change for pesos in Medellin? Any suggestions?
Mangera
There are ATM's everywhere its so much eaiser to use them.
On my recent trip (July 3-12), I used this ATM located diagonally across from the Oviedo Mall a lot. I have a Citibank checking account so I was basically doing withdrawals. I think it is a great option, I was getting on average 150 pesos more per dollar than the rate I got by exchanging cash at the cambio in the Oviedo Mall.
For example, I exchanged $500 cash and got 2400 per while Citibank gave me 2568 per - one night. I think the rate would be different if you are doing cash advance withdrawals from your Cirrius or Maestro connected credit card or if you withdrew money from a non-Citibank bank account.
I always got to the ATM while the actual Blockbuster (video rental) was open so I always entered the video store and went to the corner booth where the ATM is situated. At night, I believe you can get in by the door on the side of the booth but when the video store is open you can't - have to go through the store.
Just FYI, Almotu
Thanks for the information gentlemen.
I shouldn't answer questions directed to other people, but when your point of reference is Jakarta, like it is for Menteng, your expectations are likely to be very high. I've spent a lot of time in Jakarta, for business, and only a little in Medellin. But I much prefer Medellin, because I like the city (great climate, not nearly as polluted as Jakarta), the women are beautiful, and I can speak Spanish pretty well. However, when it comes to GFE with pros, or for that matter non-GFE with drop dead beautiful little stunners dirt cheap, Jakarta has Medellin beat by a mile, IMHO. And picking up nonpros or semi-pros is easier in Jakarta.
Curious as to know why you did not have a great time. Too high of an expectation? Nightlife/ Attitude of the women/ dangerous? What exactly? Thanks.
I guess I now have another incentive to go to southeast Asia. I will have to research the topic by doing a comparitive study between Colombian booty and an Asian piece of ass. :) Laters!
ditto what Tiny said. Medellin is a MUCH prettier, more liveable city, but where value and GFE are concerned, it is no contest. Menteng will soon third that opinion.
Being that it will be my first stay in Medellin, I will venture out to try all of the establishments that have been mentioned on this forum. But not much has been mentioned about bbbj in thses places (e.g. Loutron, Face dos, energy, etc. ).
During my visits to Cartagena last year, more often than not, bbbj was cool, no problems, yet when I was in Bogota a few months ago, more often tham not, it was covered. So I don't know what the deal is in Medellin as for bbbj.
Is it common, not common, whats the general attitude? I am spoiled by the garotas brasileras that for the most part except bbbj as part of the deal. Laters!
Thanks for the reactions on Mangera's question Tiny and Surfer.
Let me agree with both that Medellin is better to live in, but I found picking up non-pro's in Medellin much easier! Maybe because to them I look exotic ;) with my Indonesian looks. Their curiosity makes it easy to start a conversation.
Mangera, I called Medellin in my first report from there: Rubbertown. I don't want to start a discussion about covered sex here, but members from the Indonesian/Jakarta thread will know my preference.
So, my biggest disappointment was the fact that the pro's in common don't do BBBJ while in Jakarta it is so common that the girls will be very surprized if you stand on CBJ.
I speak Spanish and Indonesian very well, so I had no problem finding girls with GFE in both countries. You have to woo them first and by their reaction you can determine the grade of GFE.
Screwed Up
08-01-06, 03:43
We went to Medellin to attend the cabaljata on Saturday. Came in late at night Friday around 1AM. Spoke to a guy who told me most disco's close around 2-3AM. I hate this about Colombia, those early closing hours.
We had a cab guide us to a cheap motel and arrived at a street with about 2 hotels on each block. All were full. Untill the door guy walked me to what seemed to be the back entrance of another hotel. Rooms pretty basic around 16,000 COP with cable tv and warm water. The hotel only had 2 rooms left though, so I shared a double room with my travel companions for 26,000.
Now I hear noise at the reception, I see 3-4 girls at the reception, I hear music outside,... I walk outside, look to my left, look to my right, about 200-300 people hanging in the streets, drinking, chatting, guys with cowboy hats, beenies and baseball caps ... Every building to the left and to the right is a motel and all the girls in front of them are hoes. I was in Hotel Monterry, Calle 85 No. 50A-51.
All of a sudden I remembered the place, I was here last year as well with Medellin Bob and Maharadjah. Last year I took a girl with me to the penthouse for an all-nighter. But the best thing about this place is you just bang as many girls as you want right there as it's only 20,000 COP for half an hour. That's like the best deal in Colombia. Who needs non-pro's if you have a whole street packed with pro's as cute and cheap as this. Antifreeze has high-standards and even he was suprised by the talent.I don't have pictures as my camera broke down a while ago and didn't buy a new one yet.
Lots of really petite, skinny girls with nice asses.
First girl that came to talk to me asked 30,000 COP. We talked a lil' bit, but I felt like I shouldn't go with the first girl to talk to me, plus she had a lil' extra belly. Still skinny, but just a lil' belly. So I asked if she did it up the ass, she said no and when she noticed that was the deal breaker, we said bye and split.
I don't think the next girl realized I wasn't Colombian and she said 20,000 COP and the room was 13,000 COP. CBJ, I was tempted to discuss the CBJ thing, but as I had a long ride from Pereira to Medellin I was thinking let's bust a quick nut first and we'll go from there. All the girls insisted in money up front. So did this one and she made a cross with the money in her hand and kissed it when I paid her.
She took her clothes off except the underwear and after she sucked a lil' bit and I grabbed her tit and pulled down her bra, she said no, that's not included in the deal. I'm like what? She's like yeah, you don't come her often? I'm like what the fuck that's supposed to mean, how am I going to finish off if I can't touch you? (always exagerate a bit) This is bullshit! What other guys can come while just looking at you?
I made sure she saw I was really pissed (I wasn't that much, but sometimes you gotta show anger to keep hoes in check). And she reclined her head back as if she was ready to avoid a hit if I would slap her. She was like, you misunderstood, it's ok to touch them but you can't suck them. She awaits my reaction. I bursted out in laughter and said I don't care as if to say I wouldn't even want to suck her filthy titties if she paid me for it.
I think after talking with me more she realized I was foreign and tried this trick to get more money.
After this moment of rage, I was a lil' worried if performance would suffer, but suprisingly it didn't. Still sucking hard enough for a CBJ to be felt pretty good. And I could throw her in any position I wanted untill I finished off.
You know when you have a fight with your girl and the make-up sex afterwards?... Kinda similar.
Took a shower after and she was all smiles and when I was dressed again, she looked at me and said "Papi, y tus gafas?" And she was right I forgot my glasses in the cupboard. She smiled and I thanked her.
Surprising, how quickly things can change, huh?
Next girl, another skinny one and gorgeous. High heel boots and a mini-skirt. She said 25,000 for her and 15,000 for the room.
There was something about her body language that should have warned me first though.
When I paid her in the room I gave her 24,000 and not expecting she had change, I was about to give her two 500 pesos pieces. She said give me another 2,000 I give you 1,000 back and said "Are you cheap?". Second warning. I replied money is money and everybody needs change.
I told her to keep her boots and mini-skirt on, but she kept her bra on as well, so I pulled it down and she said no, can't do that, I have a kid look. And she showed her tiny tit, squeezed it a bit and a drop of milk came out. I'm not interested in drinking your milk, I want to see the titties and feel them up.
She said I could see them, but not touch them.
Anyways, I was too relaxed after releasing my first pop, there are 100s of hotties outside so I wasn't even going to waste much time. I said fuck this, no titties, no money, give it back. If she wants to act like this, she can do it all she want without my money. She gave my money back and wanted to leave the room. I held the door and slammed it close again. We came in together, we're leaving together. She sulked a bit, but what was she going to do. I put on my clothes, asked the condom back. With the condom, the piece of soap and the towel back to the reception. I told him nothing happened and he gave me 13,000. I said I paid 15,000 and he gave me the additional change.
Next I see this short thick girl with huge high heels. In fact she was so short, she could have applied for midget porn if she would have been 2 inches shorter. She had a big ass and big (fake) tits and (important) a tiny waste. She looked in her late twenties. Wearing a sexy black pornlike dress.
Started talking English to me, I was like cut the English, talk Spanish. Later she explained she did so because my Spanish sounded as if I was from Curacao or somewhere around the Antilles.
Anyway, I asked if she took it up the ass, sure but that would cost more. She said 100,000 COP. I just smiled. I said no, I would give her 40,000 COP. She said, but honey that's only for a regular service. I was like no, regular is 20,000 COP.
I said, fuck it, let's just do regular. Room was going to be 15,000. We started walking to the hotel and I just mentioned isn't the room 13,000? She said well, there are all different types of rooms and hotels. She now seemed a lil' bit worried if it was too much and asked if I wanted another room. I said no forget, let's just go.
I told her to keep her dress on around her waste. Good CBJ and again as she was short, I just threw her in any position. I could tell she was in pain some moments, but good. I lifted her up and put her on the table and banged her there.
It was the only room I've seen with a table. Afterwards she started making up the bed and it seemed she had her own towel. So I think she was actually staying in that room.
I asked her how many guys she did that night she said 3 or 4. On a good night she will do 8-10. I was suprised, that's not that much.
In between banging girls I had been drinking Vodka Smirnoff Ice bottles for only 4,000 COP per piece from a bar in the middle of all the hotels. This bar basically supplies the whole street with music and there is a security guard searching down everybody who goes in. You can order your drink from the street though.
After this I had one more. I think the skinnest ones of them all. When the clothes came off I noticed she did have meat in the breast and ass area, so even better. Anyway I asked if she took up the ass, she said no, and smiled and she took a step away. I said hold on, are you in a rush? She laughed and said no. I asked how much 20,000 for her and 11,000 the room. Ok, let's go.
This girl was all smiles from ear to ear the whole time. This was the only girl I didn't ask for a BBJ, but when she got down she gave me one. Good girl. Really good sex.
But afterwards she was also the only one who didn't take a shower, hmmmm...
Anyway I had another drink and decided to finish once more with the same girl as she gave good service with a great attitude. This time I took off the condom and jerked off in her mouth, she started sucking the tip of my dick and I squirted all in her mouth and on her face. She was suprised yelled no and spitted it out. Why did you come in my face? I said because it feels good. She laughed. I was puzzled how she imagined me jerking off in her face and not jizzing all over. Oh well.
I asked her about other clients and she said she'd only been with one Japanese "gordito" that night who paid her 85,000 COP. What? She said he gave her 40,000 for the half hour and another 45,000 to talk to her for another half hour. I saw the Japanese guy there before.
Anyway, you know how girls always talk shit about this or that guy paying so much or being so much in love with them. Bla bla bla, yeah...
Two thumbs up for Medellin.
Texas Slim
08-01-06, 17:16
I'm in Poblado and I haven't seen a deluge of Pro's in this area. Alot of (seemingly) non pro's, but definitely not alot that will discuss quick fees upfront thus illuminating their true motivation. What barrio were you in?
Slim: Screwed up is NOT talking about Poblado, he is talking about Centro. I went to meet him and Maharadjah near their hotel and the police approached us and said "this area is dangerous. What are you doing here"? Walking there at night would be REALLY risky.
They moved up to the penthouse that night. I remember ScrewedUp got the prim and proper girl that night who would not even show her boobs to the rest of us (remember I took those pictures that night ?). They were going to do an orgy out by the pool (like Wolfy and I did the night before with two from Miel y Canela) but then it started pooring rain!
Slim: to find the streetwalkers in relative safety take a taxi to Bar San Diego then walk around that block and you'll see plenty (but beware the TVs mixed in with the GGs!)
Menteng: IMHO Your perspective on Indonesia is different because you are not bule (making you exotic in Colombia). I am glad you are killing it with the non pros in Medellin. Bagus bagus orang.
I got bbbj about 80% of the time in Medellin. Obviously using some charm, in Spanish, helps a lot, and if resistance does not wane you'd be amazed at the effect of a promise of a 20,000 peso tip. LOL
Bbfs is pretty uncommon, though I've done on with a Bar San Diego girl I stayed with for 3 days. But nothing like in the Big Durian where condoms are a novelty item LOL.
I'm in Poblado and I haven't seen a deluge of Pro's in this area. Alot of (seemingly) non pro's, but definitely not alot that will discuss quick fees upfront thus illuminating their true motivation. What barrio were you in?
I agree with Texas Slim. DON'T GO TO CENTRO AT NIGHT, unless you can blend in. I have dark brown hair and dark skin. And have mongered there. The quility varies greatly. If you feel that you must try Centro, do it from the safety of a Taxi.
A similar and much safer place is Mayarista. Pronounced "Mah Jah 'Ree Stah". Most cab drivers know this place. It is about two or three blocks of short time hotels, all on the same side of the street. Normal is 20K for short time plus pay for the room. Make sure you agree on what you are getting before you take a lady to the room. The girls start showing up around midnight.
Suerte, Sky Dog
My first time in Medellin. So far, I am enjoying it. First night, I got in late, as the American Airlines flight was delayed for an hour. So by the time I get the hotel, check in ,and all of the other time consuming things, I got to Face II at midnight, the place was 3/4 empty, I was very dissapointed in the quality and quantity of girls.
I had a beer , chatted with a girl for a little bit, and saw a few girls dance on the stage, and walked out alone around 1:30pm, ate some very tasty carne al pincho outside, and headed back to the hotel.
Gentle, I am sure this place rocks, it certainly looks like it has the potential, but not on a monday night. And I can accept that, because generally speaking, monday nights on this planet are slow Except in Ibiza). So I will give it a fair shot, and go back later this week.
Next day, yesterday, I headed to Energy and and I was impressed by the facilities, girls were nice, and had a nice time with a young spinner called Ivonne, little shy though. Then later that afternoon, I headed to Miel and Canela, walked in, and it is definitely not a high level place, a few notches lower than Energy. But I managed to find a Diamond in the rough. Will be seeing her tommorrow night, and hitting the town with her. By the way, I did not ask for the bbbj, and she gave it too me, what a nice surprise. At no extra charge. So I am batting .500 right now as for bbbj are concerned.
I am thinking about hitting Loutron today, and get all of these houses out of my system, so I can begin hitting the non-pro scene tommorrow. By the way, interesting to note, that as I was being told about about the prices and how the establishments run their programs, at both Energy, and Miel and Canela, both mentioned that their have been price increases in the last few months. Take it for what its worth. Will report on Loutron later. Mangera
Antifreeze
08-02-06, 19:33
I went to Medellin with my friend Screwed Up and my girlfriend last weekend for the cabalgatta. I was obviously with my horses and we rode it.
Screwed up got way too drunk at about a 1/3 of the ride, so I had to surrender him to the police and gave them the business card of the hotel where we stayed. But that meant that I had his horse to take care of for the rest of the ride (that doesn´t help enjoying the event).
At one point, my girlfriend had to go to the bathroom, so that meant that I had to take care of her horse also (for a total of 3). Then a guy tried to get on one of them - not a good idea. I imediately tell him to go away since the horse would get excited and that could only mean trouble for me. Then, my girlfriend comes back, I turn my head and receive a beer in the face from the jerk... I imediately get down my horse and go to him without saying a word and start hitting. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, he fell on the ground at that point, 6, 7, and then the police separates us. He did not even threw one at me. God that felt good (other than my hand that still hurts). The news that could have been bad was that my girlfriend told me that before my first punch, the guy reached for something in his pockets. What was it? We don´t know, it could have been a gun, a knife, or simply trying to get his belt to fight. Anyhow, he didn´t have enough time to get anything...
Anyhow, for those who know me, I am as much of a good guy as one can be. But on the other hand, there´s a limit.
We all came back to Pereira all right. Most of us walking funny for a couple of days.
Medellin is truly beautiful, but it´s still Colombia.
Freeze
Pereira
Screwed Up
08-02-06, 19:41
I'm in Poblado and I haven't seen a deluge of Pro's in this area...What barrio were you in?
I was here:
...Hotel Monterry, Calle 85 No. 50A-51...
Slim: Screwed up is NOT talking about Poblado, he is talking about Centro. I went to meet him and Maharadjah near their hotel and the police approached us and said "this area is dangerous. What are you doing here"? Walking there at night would be REALLY risky.
Yeah, and that was middle in the day time. I remember how everybody was looking at us. But after you left, me and Maharadjah got way less looks. Must be your gringo powers. ;-)
That night around 5AM one guy kicked this hoe in the stomach. Everybody was keeping their distance. Two guys walked up to the arguing couple but as no more kicks were produced, didn't do anything.
I guess there is a little bit of social control.
...A similar and much safer place is Mayarista. Pronounced "Mah Jah 'Ree Stah". Most cab drivers know this place. It is about two or three blocks of short time hotels, all on the same side of the street. Normal is 20K for short time plus pay for the room. Make sure you agree on what you are getting before you take a lady to the room. The girls start showing up around midnight.
...The way you describe it, it sounds very similar.
Can anyone confirm if Calle 85 No. 50A-51 is in Mayarista or Centro?
One girl told me a lot of "gente rara" come there. Gringo's, japoneses and the hell does she know where Belgica (Belgium, me) is.
I believe that it's Majorista.
The centro hot zone near Botero Plaza is on Calle 53. I have spent a lot of time here. You are fairly safe during the day, and there are chicas to be had. The asking price was 15K for short time. I was always out of this area by 8:00 pm.
I don't know the streets very well in the Majorista area. But the way Screwed described it, I thought he was in Majorista. I have no experience in this area, but I have been told by natives that it is not the safest area.
The area around Grill San Diego is a bit more safe.
MAYORISTA ... "my-your-eesta" ... Suerte
Mayorista area is very safe at night there were tons of police with automatic weapons everywhere when I was there I picked up Karem there at 1:30am my 2nd night in Medellin
You can see her here:
http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=465651#post465651
& Here:
http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=465260#post465260
very nice looking girl scooby. proves you can still get gems without paying the us style prices now demanded at loutron. ): well done man.
tons of cops with guns does not necessarily give me a great sense of safety (i.e. there may be a good reason for their presence!), but glad you got out unrep001hed from mayorista.
neither screwedup nor mahardjah looks like a gringo (being white as antifreeze and with blonde hair, i cannot pass nearly as easily though in cartagena they often call me "paisa" lol). and it is true the cops approached me, not screwedup or mahardjah).
freeze: should have known if there was a cabalgata you'd be there. for guys who don't know freeze, he loves horses more than he loves women (he has only one novia but three horses!). instead of having a hood ornament of a bust of his novia's fine figure, again a horse!
instead of punching the colombian guy, you should have headbutted him like zidane did to the sicilian materazzi in the world cup final lol!
I meant to write Mayorista. In Medellin the double l and the y are pronounced like a j.
Thanks for the correction, Ricker. By the way, your pronunciation is correct outside of MDE.
Surf is correct. There is a reason for the heavily armed police presence. Do you see that in Parque Lleras?
Texas Slim
08-03-06, 05:18
El tiempo did an article a while back that stated stats as high as 50% of the college cuties are puttin out for $$. However, since living here, I have yet to meet one. Anyone have a take on how to network prepagados? I've heard taxi drivers, but is that it?
Escort King
08-03-06, 06:55
El tiempo did an article a while back that stated stats as high as 50% of the college cuties are puttin out for $$. However, since living here, I have yet to meet one. Anyone have a take on how to network prepagados? I've heard taxi drivers, but is that it?
There has to be cafes and bars near the college.... or beauty school....
Hello Gents,
Just getting back from yet another trip to Medellin for Colombia Moda and the Moda Event. Actually it has been six days now but finally had the chance to write.
I arrived into Medellin late Thursday night on July 13th. Hector from the Mansion was there on schedule to drive me and we were down the mountain in less time than ever before. The road construction is really going well and it was a smooth ride all the way down. I arrived at the Mansion to find I had just missed a lesbian show that Greg had put resident **** Diana and another Paisa up to including full vaginal insertion with a strap-on dildo. After the show most of the other guests had headed out to Chicago bar, Mangos or Fase II. I didn't fell like hitting any of those places so I headed out solo to Mayorista. I got to Majorista and it was packed wall to wall with fresh pussy. I saw so many new faces and yet still ran into a few previous do's as well. I was doing the usual stroll down the buildings when I spotted an innocent looking gal and struck up a conversation. Turns out it was her fourth night at Majorista and she hadn't gotten much play. I asked how much she was asking for short time sex thinking she may be asking too much but she said $20,000 for 30 minutes which is the going rate these days (at least for gringos because I've been told it is $12,000 to 15,000 for Colombians). So I sadi lets go and went up to the Monterrey hotel. The girl behind the counter greeted me by name which shows how many times I've used their faciliies. The sesion was pretty mundane at best and i decided to practice leche management and didn't climax. It was however at least enjoyable to have a chance to dip into a relative newbie. I could tell she hadn't been around verylong because she still hadn't shave off the bearded clam between her legs as so many of the pros do to avoid getting crabs.
After finishing with the newbie I decided to grab a bite to eat outside and offered to buy her a meal which she declined. I went to one of my favorite venders and picked out a couple of meat on a stick dishess and grabbed a seat and table. A couple of previous do's came up together to say hello and I invited them to a meal which they immediately accepted and we all had a good meal. We finished and I was on the prowl again. I had just taking a few steps away from where I ate when I saw a real pretty and petite gal walking my way. I immediately recognized her as a bar girl from down the block. I need to take you readers back a few months to when I was at Majorista and was walking along the open bars. Many girls hustle drinks for commission as opposed to sleeping when men for money at these bars. I had seen this girl in one of the farther bars down the street and just was turned on by her good looks. However, I never saw her venture outside the bar and I didn't want to go in to try to approach her because she was always surrounded by Colombians that seemed pretty tanked. Since that time I usually make it to Majorista long after that bar closes so I not seen her again. At least not until now. So back to the story and now hse is passing in front of me and I ask her very close so she could hear me if she is available. She barely even gave me a look as she shook her head that she wasn't and never flicned as she walked past me. I watched as she stopped a few feet away and bought two loose cigarettes form a vender and then tokk the change he gave her back and walked to the corner to use the pay phone. I watched her and got more turned on as I watched her talk and smile and laugh with whoever it was she was bullshiting with on the phone. I decided I needed to try to at least talk to her so i recruited one of the girls I had eaten with and asked her to do me a favor and go up to her and tell her I'm a nice guy and if she would talk to me. So she goes over to her and talks to the girl and points my direction and for some reason felt really embarassed about asking a hoe to do my dirty work. She looked my way and shook her head. The girl came back and said she said no and I thanked her. The girl was off the phone now and talking to some guys by the phone then came back to the vender and got more change for the phone. I was tempted to tell her she could use mine but she quickly went back and called someone else. She stayed on the phone briefly then was talking again to the guys. I was afraid she might depart soon so I asked another previous do to again ask her if she would talk to me. Again she said no. I figured it was not going to happen when she came back to the vender but this time sat next to him and started chatting with him. I figured this called for a last ditch effort so I asked yet another previous do to ask the girl to talk to me a bit and to tell her i was an alsight guy. This time however I told my previous do that if she was successfull in dragging her over to talk to me I would give her $5,000 COP. She jumped on the offer and went to talk to her. The girl said no again but this time the vender upon her the persistence of my previous do looked at me and asked if I was trying to talk to his friend. I felt like a school kid for some reason all shy but mustered a feeble nod. the vender practically pushed the girl up and off her seat next to him and told her to go on and talk to me. Saint's be praised she reluctantly gave in and now she was nex to me and so was my previous do with her hand out. I quickly slipped her the money and off she went.
So now I have this prissy girl in front of me and she asks what is I want. I told I was sorry that I was being such a pest but then I explained how I had seen her many months before. this seemed to spark her interest. She asked me how long ago and I told her aproximately when but I told her I remembered exactly what she was wearing. A puzzled look came over her as if she was either amazed that I remembered in great detail or maybe she thought I was a stalker. Well I knew what I really wanted and I asked her again if she was available to spend some time with me. It took her about 30 seconds of staring at me before she alright. I asked her how much and she said $30,000 for 15 minutes. $30,000 for 15 minutes. I repeated? I said that all the other girls are asking $20,000 for 30 minutes. Her immediate response to me was to tell me to go and fuck one of the other girls then. Not a chance I thought, $30,000 it is I told her. So I asked her which hotel she wanted to use and she looked at me and said none of them on this street. She wanted to go around the corner to one of the nicer hotels like the Manarcha. This was fine with me even though they charge twice as much but the rooms are much nicer and they have hot water.
The girl told me to wait a minute and she went and talked to a women by this one dive bar and then to another gal behind the counter. She came back and said ok let's go. We walked and were about to make the turn around the corner when suddenly the girl backed away and told be to follow her back to where we had started from. I asked her what was the matter and she said she couldn't walk that way because her ex-boyfriend was across the street and she didn't want him to see her with me. I told her that was fine and that i could walk ahead of her or walk after her. she said that was no good and suggested that we walk around the block to get to the hotel. Now guys I always tell others never to do anything you are not comfortable with doing and walking around the darkened block behind Majorista I just was not going to do. It crossed my mind that I may be getting set up for no good purpose as well. She insisted it was the only way but I told her no and that was the deal breaker and we just had to find a different way. She just took a deep breath and looked at me and asked well then what hotel on this block. I immediately told her the Monterrey. So we headed there again the same counter girl greeted me but this time said aye que pronto and I just nodded yeah yeah and give me a room and so on. This time however, I decided asked for a top floor room because I knew they keep those for the long time guests and she said claro and gave me our key. We got up to the room and sure enough it was cleaner and nicer than the ones below.
So now without saying a word the girl tosses herself on the bed on her back and puts her hands behind her head and puts one foot up on the bed. It just then that I noticed for the first time the side zip up boots she was wearing with what looked to be 4 inch thick bottom pltaforms. I immediately bitched at her jokingly to get her shoes off my bed. so she reaches down and uzips one and then the other and tosses both off and resumes her hands behind the head position. I picked up one of the boots and then looked at her and told her to stand up in front of me. The girl did just that and she stood in her socking feet directly in front of me. i couldn't believe how tiny she was. She bare came up to my solar plexes area. I looke down at her and said in English "Your just a little shit aren't you"? I think she understood what I meant as I put my hand above her head but what happened next was a shock.
The girl looked up at me with her big brown eyes then a miracle happened, she cracked a smile from ear to her to reveal two beautiful dimples on either side of her cheeks and a gorgeous set of teeth and said to me in Spanish that I was just going to have to come down to her level and at that moment she threw her hands around my neck and pulled me down to her waiting lips. Immediately I could feel her thrust her tongue into my mouth at full throttle and we were off to the races. I picked her up with ease as she was so light and eased her back onto the the bed. By now she was licking and kissing my face and neck like a lollipop. What the fuck got into this chick I remember thinking. I didn't know but I sure liked it. soon after she was almost tearing my pull over shirt off me and then started attacking my nipples like a suckling calf. The girl just went nuts on my body as she licked and kissed every part of my chest and stomach. I managed to get her shirt off in between kisses and she undid her jeans and slithered sexily out of them. Then she went for my crotch and my already engorged hard on. She bit on my cock thru my trousers and then almost broke my zipper as she yanked off my pants. She looked up at me as she grabbed my cock and asked me a one worded question "Preservativo"? I wasn't sure wether she was asking if I had one or wanted to put one on. The receptionist had given us two and I had a couple of my own in my pants pocket. So I asked her back "Importanta"? and she shot back "No mi amor" and proceeded to introduce my bare cock to her tonsils. She shoved it in so far as she gagged a couple of times. I was amazed how much cock her small mouth could take in and yet at the same time was able to flick her at the base of my balls. This really felt fuckin great I kept thinking and after a few minutes I was almost afraid I was going to blast in her throat. I wanted to fuck her real bad now and I proceeded to take of her bra and panties and laid her down below me. She was beautiful. A flawless creamy white body. Many of the Mayorista girls are marred with knicks or bruises or c section scares etc. This girl didn't have anything as much as a out of place mole or bad birthmark plus she had muff hair. I was in pussy heaven. I started to suck on her small yet firm breasts and perfest pouty niples and she grabbed my hair and pulled me tighter on her body. She was so light that I effortlessly threw her on top of me for a 69 position session and she again gourged on my rock hard cock. I loved tearing into her pussy because it taste so good and then we met face to face again and locked lips in a feverish manner. Funny thing about this was in our ferver neither one of us had taken off our socks which was was a first for me amd didn't seem to bother her one bit. We went at it like high schoolers and I had yet to stick my cock in when the unthinkable happened. A rapp rapp rapp on the door followed by a female voice saying "Tiempo". Fuck, I thought to myself and she and I ignored he knock. Instead the girls grabbed my hand and put it on her crotch and I started finger blasting her and could feel she was sopping wet. About five minutes went by and again I hear the rap rap rap on the door but a louder "Tiempo". I wanted to ignoe it again but the girl said to me to give her $20,000 COP. Not even questioning why I grabbed a quick $20,000 bill and she took it and opened the door slightly, handed it to the person ouitside and almost yelled a command at the person then slammed the door and pounced back on me like a kitten on a ball of yarn. Again she was sucking my cock then she mounted me without asking abaout using a condom which I wasn't about to fight either way. SHe was incredibly tight yet was so wet I slid inside her like velvet. It felt so fuckin good to feel flesh on flesh. She rode me cowgirl style til she was shaking with an orgasm and with her little hands grabbed at my chest as she shivvered almost uncontrolably. I was very thankful she had no nails otherwise I would be hurting mire than I was from her tight grip. She callapsed ontop of me but I wasn't even close to being done so I laid her on her side then rose above her again so she was now resting on her stomach. I started kissing her neck then her shoulders and her back and worked my way down to her ass. Then she told me to do something that I didn't quite understand the first time and I asked "Que"? Then she repeated it to me "Muérdame" (bite me). Where I asked and she said on her ass. So I nibble on her left butt cheek and she slapped a hand around and said "DUERO"(spl?) "HARD" she said and I just lost it and started bitting the fuck out of her ass on both sides. She loved it and so did I. I decided I had to do her doggie and proceeded to do so. then I turned her over and mounted her missionary style and we fucked until she had yet another orgasm. then I stood on the bed and told her I wanted her to cum in her mouth. Si mi amor was all she said and proceeded to alternate between licking and sucking by balls and my cock until I could take no more and exploded in her mouth. She let it dribble down her chin a bit which was fine by me but then she took her hand and gathered what was on her chin and neck and slurped in back into her mouth and just stared at me as she swallowed my load. Awesome was my only thought as I callpsed on the bed and she did the same next to me. Snuggle time I thought but she wasn't having that. She started fingering herslef again started biting my should and right nipple. then she grabbed my and and showed my fingers in her pussy in time to feel yet another flow of orgasm and again she dug her nail free fingers into my body. Finally we were both done, finished, Kaput! We lay there for 5 minutes almost gasping a times. Neither of us said a word. I didn't have anything to say and apparently she didn't either. I would have liked to have jut fallen asleep there with her but then again I heard the rap rap rap and the now familiar "Tiempo". I wanted to shoot that broad outside at this point. What the fuck I had already paid double what I should have if I had asked for an all night room. Anyway, the girl shouted out something and got up and went to the bathroom and showered. When she came out I quickly did the same.
The girl and I out of the room and past the cleaning lady ***** and walked out of the Monterrey together. As we approached the outside it dawned on me I had not asked this girl what her name was and as far as I remmeber she didn't ask me mine. So I asked her her name and she told me it was Jessica. She still didn't ask what my name was. I asked her when i could see her again and she said Sunday. Sunday? I asked. I was thinking like tomorrow. No, she said she had to work but we could be together Sunday and I could meet her here at Mayorista after 11pm when she was done working at the bar. Ok I said and she left. No kiss goodbye or anything, she just left. i walk out to the curb and hailed the first taxi and jumped in. It wasn't until I arrived back at the Mansion and went to pay the taxi driver that I realized i hadn't paid Jessica anything for our sesson. Maybe she took what was comming to her as I showered I thought as i quickly thumbed through my cash but no, she hadnt touched a thing. I had big bills on me and only that one $20,000 I had given her to give to the ***** outside the door. I paid the driver and stepped inside the Mansion, siad hello to the night watchman and made it to my bed and instatntly fell asleep. It was hard to believe I had been in Medellin for less than five hours.
Alot more to cum (including pics) but for now,
Cheers,
Cubanut
Cubanut
All I can say is WOW!!!!
Member #4351
08-03-06, 15:02
Cubanut,
One of the BEST WRITTEN reports I have read in a long time, I nominate it for the Reports of Distinction thread.
Forget the writing, the CONTENT is SUPERLATIVE! Estoy muy envidioso! Those are the kind of RARE experiences that keep me mongering despite the starfish, ROBs and other drawbacks of the hobby.
I have had several want me to bite them hard, but I worried about drawing blood. Another liked to bite my lip HARD when we were Frecnh kissing. I asked her REPEATEDLY not to do it buit it was like a hibit of hers or something. I get no pleasure from pain but she CLEARLY did.
Member #4351
08-03-06, 19:03
I get the feeling that maybe she was reluctant to go with Cubanut because she suspected that she was going to lose control. A lot of the girls who work in those night clubs never get a chance to get off. Many don´t accept getting bar-fined, seeing this as prostitution as opposed to the more "decent" job of hussling drinks and getting felt up in "privados".
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08-03-06, 19:15
Hey Cubanut,
My main gripe with Colombia. I don't believe in telling people what to do. Pisses me off if anyone does me, and I go out of my way to treat people the way I wish to be treated.
""the vender practically pushed the girl up and off her seat next to him and told her to go on and talk to me""
It is a man's world there!!!
Glad you had fun!!! My count down is T-27 days.
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Senor Amable
08-03-06, 19:32
Not since I read "A Stone for Danny Fisher or Tropic of Capricorn/Cancer," when was a kid in school in the '50s, have i read an Epic like Cubanuts Medellin Adventure!
Has to be one of the best tales of all time. To bad he didn't get her cell number,for with a talent like hers, she could make her first million quickly.(pesos that is)
Viva Cubanut!
Amable
Let me get this straight, did you do HER all the way, bareback? and you were able to control it until the CIM?
You're a much stronger man than I.
Kudos!
Damn, I need to take a cold shower after reading that report. Awaiting the pics.
Kwm
Wolfy Baby
08-05-06, 05:32
This reminds me of the old joke that men have multiple orgasms also. Once with the girl, then again, when they tell their friends. This story is one for the ages!!!
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08-05-06, 15:17
Mayorista, my experience:
The first time I there there was Fernando (cab drive) Scooby, Hugh Grant and myself. Now my policy is to always error on the side of caution. Though there were women everywhere, I wouldn't get out of the cab. I sat there with windows up, doors locked. In about a half hour they returned, plus Scooby had found the love of his life.
The second time it was Sky Dog, Hugh Grant and myself. Sky Dog made the comment the typical Colombia has no clue as to what tourist is. I responded, just one quick look and they can tell we ain't fucking local. With the help of Sky Dogs Spanish I did bring one back to the Mansion.
Third trip Sky Dog, graceful, almost slid into home plate. Tripped over a curb block, but he did the short time thing while Hugh and I stood out in the rain.
Fourth time I took another mansion guest with me and we just walked around.
There are some cute women there, a few police, but unlike Radioman I would not go back into any of the bars. I stayed on the side walks. Safety in being visible!!!
The female crowd seems to pick up around 11:30 pm. Again, there are some cute women there, and a working knowledge of Espanol is a must!
Place can be fun, but be cautious!
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Menteng: IMHO Your perspective on Indonesia is different because you are not bule (making you exotic in Colombia). I am glad you are killing it with the non pros in Medellin. Bagus bagus orang.
I got bbbj about 80% of the time in Medellin. Obviously using some charm, in Spanish, helps a lot, and if resistance does not wane you'd be amazed at the effect of a promise of a 20,000 peso tip. LOL
Bbfs is pretty uncommon, though I've done on with a Bar San Diego girl I stayed with for 3 days. But nothing like in the Big Durian where condoms are a novelty item LOL.
And you were in MDE during the cavalgata??!! Oh, brother, you should have told that. I was at the Mayorista during the afternoon, but the company I was with, wouldn't allow me to visit the bars nearby. That evening however, I was free to leave and so I did.
PM me when you go to the Big Durian again. The first beers will be on me. I'm on my way back now. Barcelona, Den Haag, London and then: JAKARTA!
Menteng: Terima kasih banyak. Will look you up next trip. I'd LOVE to hit Jakaeta on my trip at end of this month but have only 2 weeks which will go by SO quickly in LOS & PI. What are dates for Ramadan this year? I may try to come to Jakarta for Eid al Fitri.
Selamat jalan
Day Two - July 14th, 2006.
I woke up Friday afternoon about 12:30. I hated the fact that I really had no made any plans make it to any of the day time events happening in Medellin for Colombia Moda, just the evening ones.
I met some new guys staying at the Mansion and told them I was heading out to Loutron for an fternoon session and a couple of guys joined me. The selection was good but I had already been with a few of the girls including Diana (MM girl of the month) and Natalie (who I know in private now). So after the other guys picked I went for an natural dark blonde "mona" which for some reason can't remember her name now. To say the sex was mechanical at best is being kind. She didn't like doggie either and said it hurt after just a minut of it. I told her straight out that she was in the wrong line of work. This bad session was a first for me. After I rejoined my new friends one of them had a very distraught look on his face and I asked him what was wrong. He said that he had a throbing dick. I told him isn't that what the session was to get rid of. Then he explained. It sems at one point he and his pick were going at it 89 style and she had an orgasm and she clamped her teeth down extremely hard on his dick to the point he thought she was trying to bite it off Lorena Bobbit syle. He said she was freaked out after that and was sobbing crying that she was sorry and this had never happened before and that she would be fired if he told the staff what she did. I made a mental note never to go with that chick but wondered if she pulled this crap with others.
I wasn't satisfied with my girl and so I was heading out to new life and the other guys headed back to the Mansion.
I got to new life and found a pretty brunette and and got a session under way. Kind of unusal girl because she was into the arts and peotry and theatree and wrote poetry herself and liked windwood Indian music as opposed to the techno electro regaeton & salsa stuff most Paisas seem to prefer. At any rate we had a decent session despite covered everything though.
I went downstairs to grab a bite to eat at the restaurant below and luckily they had some food left. they only serve fresh stuff so when they run out for the day, that's it.
After a great steak I was ready for another session upstairs at New Life. So I went back wanting to do a blonde I had seen. Luckily she was avalable and I skipped the usual line up and went for desert. She said she had just been back in Medellin for about two weeks having spent several months working in Japan. Japan? Well I didn't ask how or why she ended up in Japan but took her word for it. She was really sweet and gave good bareback and brought me to an easy climax.
I left New Life and finally made contact with DJanselmo and got the lowdown that a big party was happening this night at at club called Pharmacy. I wasn't doing anything in between then and now so I called a few of my non working girl friends and told them i had blown into town and if they wanted to catch a movie. I met up with them at the Oviedo mall and we went and saw the remake of the 1984 thriller "When a Stranger Calls" I was very disappointed and the girls were thinking it was just plain stupid. Lousy movie in all. So then we went over to the Crepes and Waffles in the mall for a bite and shot the shit and I was able to gaze at the beautiful Paisas going up and down the escalators. My young Paisas non working girl friends always ask me why I don't have a girlfriend and I always respond with something like "With friends like you, who needs a girlfriend". And I mean it. I really like hanging with these hot Paisas who have befriended me even though I have never touched any of them sexually. Funny thing is they are the touchy feely type and at times I find myself having to remember that we are just friends.
It was almost 10pm now and I departed with the girls and told them I would see them the next day for lunch. I headed back to the mansion to shower and change and headed out to Pharmacy.
Pharmacy is in an industrial district and I couldn't tell you how to get there if my life depended on it. The taxi driver had to ask a couple of other taxi drivers how to get there as well. I met up with my buddy DJanselmo and a few other friends including my buddy who I had met in Rio and was the person who first invited me to visit Medellin. It was a good reunion but I couldn't take the loud music for more than a couple of hours and decided to head out.
I knew exactly where I wanted to go, Mayorista in the hopes of finding Jessica. I got to Mayorista and was surprised that it was a bit more subdued than the day before. Not as many girls as well. My intention was to see if the bar Jessica worked in was open but it was closed already. So with no sign of Jessica being around I was on the prowl. I came across a cute enough Paisa hat I had not seen before and with very little conversation we went to the Monterrey and as usual the same counter girl was there. Hola amigo she said and told me she had a message for me. A message? Was i getting too well know in this joint? Low and behold it's from Jessica. What a smart girl figuring I'd make a run into the Monterrey sooner or later. The bummer about this was her note said that she wasn't going to be able to meet me this Sunday because she was going out of town tomorrow (Saturday). To say i was dissappointed is not saying enough but again she didn't leave me a number or any indication of when she would be returning. However I had some business to take care of and went upstairs with the newest Mayorista cutie I had found. She was good but had nowhere near the level of sexual knowledge as Jessica had. I really felt bad comparing her to Jessica as we sessioned as well because she really was giving it her best. Our half hour came and went but I didn't climax. I didn't feel like continuing so we showered and dressed and left.
Again on the street I had a strange feeling of empitiness, not loneliness but just something felt missing. I wondered around the remaining yet number of girls and nothing caught my eye. I again walked past the now closed bar where Jessica worked and was about to walk away when a Mulatta girl walks up to me and says "Tu es amigo de Jessica?" What? Me?, Si, Si, elle estas aqui? To my disappointment she wasn't. The girl explained that Jessica was a friend of hers and had described her to me and had asked her to pass along the same message to me If she sas me like the note back at the hotel. I thanked the Mulatta girl then talked to her a bit about Jessica. She knew very little about her personal life though. However I found this girl to be quite charming and wondered why I had never sessioned with her before because I had walked by her several time in the past but never once even talked to her. She really was an intelligent girl because she communicated very clearly. You see the problem I have with some of theses Mayorista girls is that they are from the ghettoes and they speak alot of slang that makes it dificult at times to understand them. I can understand the words but not the terminology at times. This girl was not like that. It really was appealing to me as well.
There was something about this girl that made me think that a half hour seesion wasn't enough for me so I asked the girl how much to come home with me. $50,000 COP was her answer and I was hailing a cab in no time flat.
Back at the Mansion The Mullata girl and I talked awhile then had an awesome session. Turns out she likes girls as well and I got her number and promised a another session with her and her lesbian girlfriend some other night. She left after about two hours and day two came to an end.
More to CUM, including MODA! DJanselmo's Music Fest Extrodinaire!
Cheers,
Cubanut
BeersTerry
08-08-06, 07:04
August 8th,
Just back. Unless you are into the Feria de Flores, it is a good time to avoid Medellin, though there are a couple of crazy events. The traffic though can be unbelievable...turning a 3,000 COP cab ride into a 6-7,000 COP cab ride.
Lots of rumours as usual. Seems like everyone and their uncle is going to open up a place.
BeersTerry
08-08-06, 20:34
Does'nt matter if the local women notice it, they still aint going home with Quasimoto (for those who have not read the book...aka the Hunchback of Notre Dame)
Carolinaman
08-09-06, 04:51
I made a reservation to Mde several weeks ago and was suprised to find out that I saved nearly $75.00 US by booking directly with Avianaca vs the consoldiator websites such as Orbitz. I always check with carrier's web site but the savings normally are only around $15 so I was suprised by the greater savings.
Yesterday night just needed to get my rocks off. Got a cab (am staying at friends house) and headed for San Diego area. Very few of the drug addict girls present (true for 90% of San Diego girls my Medellin friends, all paisas, have assured me). It was still to early at 9:15 pm. None to my liking.
So we went on to 33 and I was looking for a small joint my freinds had introduced me too a couple of years ago. Couldn't find it or was history. Cabbie suggests Luna Lunera. So we go there. I pay the driver and enter.
Coming in I see Angi a blonde with a cute face, huge butt, small tits and a friendly smile. We hit it off together and move to the area where most of the girls are. Low level environment. The rest of the ladies are mostly older and really quite out of shape.
After some talking another blond paisa comes in (slim, with medium tits). She is a friend of angi and is called Luisa. She joins us after Angi tells me she is bisexual and loves to do it with that girl. Basically she offers lesbian show followed by joint attention to my person.
I agree, they are basically the best looking girls at that moment. Nothing top notch but reasonable. I pay 50K for the room (normally it is 30 but 20 are for an additional person) and a 100K each to the girls for about an hour.
We all shower and already during undressing both caress me and each other as well. WHen we get to the bed a lot of caressing amongst the three. Than they start firing up and get out a little vibrating egg. I participate in this steamy session. After a while of this Luisa makes me lie on my back and whilst Angi kisses and sucks my nipples and chest, Luisa puts a condom on me and starts giving me an energetic, but not to imaginative blowjob.
As always I get slightly confused with 2 ladies, but it was not out of control. After a while of this Luisa mounts me and rides me in all variations. Grinding, rotating, first softly, then ever harder. During all this time Angi caresses me.
After a while the girls swap. No Angi swaps condoms and starts blowing me. Very softly, very skilled and very good. Now it is Luisa turn to be busy with my upper body. She gives me her titites to suck and leads my hand to her pussy. After a while Angi mounts me. Although her riding skills are not that well I am now very excited and I give her a hard ride.
Next we switch position I take Luisa missionary style first softly grinding. Angi stills tries to caress a little bit, but seems a little absent. Now I put Luisa legs where I like them (knees to chest ;). Angi actually leaves the bed. But I start to give Luisa a deep and hard fuck, which gets her moaning even more. After some time I come great and am completely exhausted (am quite overweigth).
Summary:
Angi has nice Paisa face and and only OK body, slightly on the big side. She can suck quite well, but isn't a good rider. She is quite detached and reserved and not as much into it as Luisa.
Luisa does have a nice face as well and a better body. BJ could be improved, but she rides well and takes a good fuck. She was smiling all the time and much warmer and friendlier.
All in all a great GFE.
Below is a report from a recent two day visit in Medellin:
Hotel:
Made reservations with Servicios Efectivos (3122688)-
Nice big apartment complex near Parque Lleras and the Plaza Rosa hotel. Cost about $50 per night. Very quiet place away from heavy traffic. There's a place down the street at the end of the V that has great hamburgers.
Massage:
Loutron- Around $60 for the hour. The girls here are top notch, but I guess considered expensive compared to the other place I visited.
New Life- Not as many girls as Loutron, and also not the same quality, but still I found most of them to be very attractive and cost me around $25 for 45 minute session.
Discos:
Mangos- Went here on a Thursday night and had a great time. Unfortunately I had an early flight on Friday and didn't have too much time to stick around. Non pros can definitely be had at this place and I did get a # from a beautiful Paisa. My only regret here is lack of time. You will need to speak some spanish if you plan on going after the non pros.
Bars:
Just walk around Parque Lleras and you'll see a bunch of places to sit and have a drink. Lots of eyecandy here. But I did notice that most of the women were already with guys. I met a stripper from Miami visiting her folks down here. She ended up being a great tour guide and excellent GFE.
Food:
Ate at a place called Angus Brangus. Great place if you like steak and ribs.
Gringos:
I really didn't see many gringos down here. A couple in Mangos, and walking around Parque Lleras. People seemed to look at me like a rare bird, especially when I took a trip to centro. But I found most people here to be very friendly and curious to speak with an american. Getting the feel from the day, it would probabaly be wise to be with friends if you plan on visiting centro at night.
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BeersTerry
08-10-06, 13:14
During the Fiesta de Flores, it looked like they cleaned Mayorista up a little....well for the last weekend anyhow. Tables were set up along most of the section....clean, new looking tables and chairs.
In fact, a buddy and I sat down and ate some fine looking roast chicken right off the roaster/spit. I thought that it would be safe as it was steaming hot, but took no chances with any side dishes. The waitress was even decent looking and very friendly. Slow night for food, lots of staff, so she sat with us while we had some chicken.
Chicken devoured, it was time to get down to business.
In general MDE water is safe to drink. You might want to be careful in high rises because they have rooftop tanks that may not be clean. That means that the side dishes should be okay. But it is always better to be safe than sorry.
I have gotten sick twice in MDE: once when I was staying at a decent hotel in Centro and another time staying in a nice resort near Barbosa. I think that there are local bacteria that my sensitive system must get used to.
I got quite sick the first couple of visits to CTG. Now I live there and drink the water(filtered).
Australiano Greg
08-10-06, 16:30
Tom is quiet right(again) the water is good here in MDE
I drink the water all the time, I put my diarrea down to to much Rum !!
The Ozzie.
In general MDE water is safe to drink. You might want to be careful in high rises because they have rooftop tanks that may not be clean. That means that the side dishes should be okay. But it is always better to be safe than sorry.
I have gotten sick twice in MDE: once when I was staying at a decent hotel in Centro and another time staying in a nice resort near Barbosa. I think that there are local bacteria that my sensitive system must get used to.
I got quite sick the first couple of visits to CTG. Now I live there and drink the water(filtered).
BeersTerry
08-10-06, 16:45
Too much information Greg......but it explains the racing stripe.
This may not be he place for this but I thought others might like to see the deals on the unlocked Blackberrys I found they are down near the bottom, Numbers 5,6,& 7 Especially # 5 the 4-channel (GSM 850, 900, 1800 and 1900) unlocked BlackBerry 7100 phone for $99.00 usd 0r $121.98usd with a 2 Year Replacement after Mfg. Warranty Ends. I thought it looked like a good deal others looking for unlocked phones could benifit from. Can this phone be used in Colombia
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/search.asp?keywords=Blackberry&image1.x=13&image1.y=8
ClubVIPmedellin
08-13-06, 00:17
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Continuation:
I rounded up the guys and we finally headed over to the Plaza Mayor Centro de which was the venue for "Moda". It was now about 11:30 and the place is almost in full swing. The rest of the evening went like this: Beautiful women, great music, plenty to drink and many good friends to party with because alot of people I have met in the last year in a half were on hand to enjoy the party which closed out this years Colombia Moda week. I stayed until 3:45am and managed to catch a taxi and stagger wobbly legged up the Mansion steps to get some well deserved sleep ALONE!! Saturday had finally CUM to an end. What a "Fucking Day & Night" it was.
The clothed girls (Pics 6 to 15) are from "MODA". All in all I took almost 500 pictures there and although I have so many more girl pics, many I will not post due to privacy concerns.
Cheers,
Cubanut
Cubanut: Will We Ever Hear of the Reunion With Your EPIC Mayorista Chica? That story was the best thing emanating from Medellin in many months.
Surfer,
The saga of Jessica and myself will be continued in the last past of my July trip report.
But for now "MODA":
When I started this report it was Thursday July 13th. As I have written before, alot had happened in two days and it was now Saturday July 15th. DJanselmo's big event "MODA" was planned for the main event. This iwas a good as any reason to come to Medellin during Colombai Moda week.
Of course since "MODA" was happening at night, I had to fill my morning, afternoon and early Saturday evening with something to do. I decided to hit New Life again and since the restaurant below New Life is closed on the weekend I had breakfast at the Mansion. A newbie monger was having breakfast as well and after I mentioned where I was going to, he decided to join me. So after breakfast we jumped in a taxi and headed out. As usual I was not disappointed with the selection at New Life. The newbie was stunned when i told him the low pricing for the cute Paisas. He immediately went with the blonde I had had the day before (I posted her pic in the last report). I decided to go with a petite and very cute girl (Pic 1 below). As I write this I apologize that I do not remember her name. She was quite pleasant and had a great attitude towards sex. I'll leave the rest to your imagination. We spent an hour session at the usual $50,000 cop rate and left.
I then asked the newbie if he wanted a mini tour of some places that were close together while our batteries recharged. He agreed and we headed over to the intersection of Cra. 33 and calle 65th. This is where Abydos, Samsara and Miel & Canella are. We first went into Abydos and I must say I was very impressed with the number of girls they had and the quality. However the newbie wasn't quite up for another round so we had a beer and left with full intention of returning. We walked over to Samsara and there I met a very nice blonde (Pic 2) and the newbie met a cute brunette and after yet another beer we up for another session. Unfortunately the blonde would not let me photograph her face. The blonde was very cute and at $45,000 COP for 45 minutes she was pleasure to fuck but I decided to use Leche Management and not shoot a load so I could save it for the hottie I still wanted to do back at Abydos. After the session we were both pretty hungry so, instead of heading straight back to Abydos, we decided to grab a bite to eat at Mario Brothers back on Cra. 33 which is about ten business fronts down from Abydos. We ordered the pork ribs and feasted. After luch the newbie said he was pretty tired and so I put him in a taxi and sent him home. I went back to Abydos but to my dissapointment the girl I wanted had just gone with a client which meant she would be busy for at least an hour. So, since It had been a while since I had been to Miel & Cannela and because it was so close, I figured this was as good a time to go there to kill some time.
I got to Miel & Cannela and was surprised that I was the only one there besides the ten girls. I struck up a conversation with a girl (Pic 3) who was a bit darker than what I usual go for but she was very engaging. Next thing I know we are locking lips right there on one of the couches. We must have made out for 25 minutes before she asked if I wanted to go upstairs, which I did. As I followed her up the spiral staircase her beautiful ass made me forget all about going back to Abydos, well that and her promise of giving BBBJ and giving up the brown eye to me. Yep that's right, not only does Miel & Cannela deliver BBBJ's but they also cater to anal sex lovers as well now. The bare back and sex is now $55,000 COP and anal is $30,000 COP more. I was going for it all. As promised she was great at the BBBJ and the pussy grinding was good as well. Then the bung hole opened up to me (covered) and I enjoyed it in three different positions. As I was about to shoot my load I pulled out of her ass in time for her to turn around and take my load on her face and even then she still attacked my nuts as to try to squeeze out every drop. A job well done indeed. We lay there for a while then cleaned up and went back downstairs and took out places on the couch again. Despite the fact that there was now customers, my girl stayed with me while we each had a beer all the while making out like lovers. I got her number with a semi promise to call her on Sunday. Afterwards I decided to forego the Abydos cutie and headed back to the Mansion.
I reach the Mansion and find out that my buddy "W" is has made it into town from Bogota and is up at the Castillo. I had my buddies ticket for "MODA" so I quickly showered and decided to go up and give him his ticket with the intention of returning to the mansion to get some rest because "Moda was going to be happening from 9pm to 4am. I get up to the Mansion and find out that Robert and some of the Mansion regulars will be heading up to "MODA" as well.
Like I said before, it was my intention to get some rest before heading out to "MODA" but alas it was not to be. "W' talks me into heading over to San Diego for a little warm up nookie and I say ok. While there he hooks up with a hott brunette that I had never seen there before and I take up with a thin short haired girl who
s dance moves on the stage got a move out of my crotch. Needless to say I couldn't resist and since my buddy was taking his hot brunette I decided to take the short haired girl (Pic 4). She gave a great BBBJ and amazingly let me do her bareback. This was the first bareback sex I had ever had at San Diego. There is just something about bare backing that makes it so easy to climax. I came with ease and all within just 30 minutes at $70,000 COP. Yes it was a short time but well worth it.
So I come out and I meet up with another guy staying at the Castillo who had come looking for us at San Diego. He says he doesn't like anything there and now "W" joins us and the other guy asks us if we had ever been to club Apoteosis Club that has a big stripper stage with an erotic shower right in the middle. Neither of us had been there and we figured we still had a little time to kill and we went. We got there and I really wasn't impressed with the place but it was adequette enough for one beer. At least so I thought. We were soon swarmed with very agressive chicas and even though I had serious doubt that I could get it up yet again I decided to go with a delicious sweetie of a girl. Unfortunately the facilities leave much to be desired. Just three rooms and only one with it's own bathroom while the other two share an outside one. I didn't have the time to wait for the one with it's own bathroom to become available so I opted for the only one available. The girls body (Pic 5) was incredibly beautiful and she had perfect tits and nipples. It was $70,000 COP for 30 minutes which was mostly spent by her giving me a covered blowjob but she did suck my nuts with efficiency enough to get me hard enough to fuck her from behind for a while then her on top but that was all I could do. I was cum spent and it was really time to get the fuck over to "MODA".
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great stuff Cubanut. LOVE chica cinco. Never went to that place as I heard it was noy good value and shit facilities. I got bbfs from a Club San Diego chica and we ALL know what you mean about being able to cum so much easier without the cover. Within 5 years condoms should be but a painful memory as the anti hiv gel the Gates Foundation is funding is perfected and marketed.
Within 5 years condoms should be but a painful memory as the anti hiv gel the Gates Foundation is funding is perfected and marketed.
How does that work on herpes and genital warts? HPV can last a lifetime and cause an increased risk of uterine cancer.
BeersTerry
08-19-06, 16:09
Hate to bring reality to this pie in the sky bullshit, but does'nt a product like that require about 7 years of testing and then trials...that is after it is perfected.
I wait to be corrected.
Hate to bring reality to this pie in the sky bullshit, but does'nt a product like that require about 7 years of testing and then trials...that is after it is perfected.
I wait to be corrected.
Everyone knows that it's only in Canada that takes so long to approve a drug or get a doctor's appointment.
By the way, did you catch Cubanut's pictures of Jasmine and her sis? No disrespect but man have those two gone downhill in 6 months!! It's almost shocking!
CT
2010 is less than 4 years from now if my math is correct.
Women's HIV gel said possible by 2010
CAPE TOWN, South Africa (AP) — A safe and effective gel allowing women to protect themselves from the AIDS virus may be available by 2010 if current trials involving thousands of women are successful, researchers said Sunday.
Gita Ramjee, director of the HIV prevention research unit at South Africa's Medical Research Council, said microbe-killing vaginal gels offered huge potential for stemming the epidemic, especially in societies where men are reluctant to use a condom.
Ramjee said that five separate clinical trials were underway involving 12,000 people in South Africa and thousands in other countries. Results should be ready in the next two years, she said.
"We have waited 25 years to address the epidemic, so 2008 is really not too much longer to wait," she told a press conference before an international conference on microbicides.
She said that if governments fast-tracked the regulatory approval process, the gels might be on the market by 2010 — although she cautioned this was the earliest anticipated date.
The conference co-sponsored by the World Health Organization brings together more than 1,000 scientists and researchers from around the world.
HIV infection is rising more rapidly among women than men in many parts of the world. Half of all adults living with the virus that causes AIDS are female, according to U.N. figures.
In sub-Saharan Africa, home to more than 25 million of the nearly 40 million people infected around the world, women account for nearly 60% of infections, with most acquired through heterosexual intercourse. Yet strong taboos still exist on the continent against the use of condoms.
The London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine has calculated that a microbicide that is 60% effective against HIV and used by only 20% of women in 73 developing countries over three years could prevent 2.5 million infections.
Microbicides can take the form of a gel, cream, sponge or ring that releases an ingredient that can kill or deactivate HIV during intercourse.
Coinciding with the start of the conference, South African AIDS activists launched a new campaign to try to prevent 2 million new AIDS infections by 2010.
The Treatment Action Campaign — which until now has focussed on improving access to medication — said it would press the government to provide more condoms and improve sex education.
"There is a crisis of prevention in this country," said Zackie Achmat, president of the campaign.
"There are 1,400 new infections every day. That must stop," he told a crowd of about 1,500 activists.
Up to 6 million South Africans are infected with HIV, the highest number of any country. It is projected that 2.5 million more may become infected by 2010.
Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
It will take many more years before working girls will let you bareback her using this gel. At a preliminary glance, this gel is not birth control is it? So you can still get the chica pregnant when using this gel?
We'll just have to patiently wait for the results.
Not a problem. I got my nuts cut.
Yo tengo una vasectomia. Sexo sin preservativo?
Chocha Monger
08-19-06, 20:06
This microbial gel doesn't sound all that great. It is unlikely to be effective against all STDs but it will promote a lot more barebacking and a false sense of security. Also, the casas have the condom rule because they know that most clients don't want to play in the leche of the 15 or 20 guys who blew their wad before them. I don't see high end casas allowing wholesale barebacking gel or no gel.
Is it me or does anybody else think the person in pic #3 is a bit odd?
BeersTerry
08-19-06, 20:11
Not all knowing and never claimed to be......just not spreading gossip.
Dr Mark Wainberg, Co Chair, International Aids Conference
".....could be available in 10 years"
and from other researchers presenting at the International Aids Conference.
"...antimicrobials may be available within a decade while serums/injections are at least a decade away."
BeersTerry
08-19-06, 20:16
Clem,
Maybe Greg introduced them to the all protein diet.
I guess those pictures cured you of "the fever" then.
Is it me or does anybody else think the person in pic #3 is a bit odd?
LB,
Like I said she is darker than I like then when you said what you did I took a look see. I guess her rougher cut face would put some in question. Let me assure you though that she is ALL woman (Pic 3A).
Surfer,
Here's another one of numero cinco (Pic 5A).
Clem,
I agree that the sisters have put on a few pounds since when I met them early last year (Retro Pic). But that's what happens when gringo's take them out to eat and party all the time.
Cheers,
Cubanut
Nice report Cubanut
I was there with you and W .
Damn i should of stayed longer,i went offf with W.i saw that girl in pic 11 once wow she was hot.and as for Carolina i never know she was going to be there,but no worrys i saw here later in my trip.
I also had that girl after you in pic 5 she was hot , but she was trying to get me to drink some crazy stuff,which of course i did not.but good fuck.
Superboy
LB,
Like I said she is darker than I like then when you said what you did I tokk a look see. I guess her rougher cut face would put some in question. Let me assure you though that she is ALL woman (Pic 3A).
Surfer,
Here's another one of numero cinco (Pic 5A).
Clem,
I agree that the sisters have put on a few pounds since when I met them early last year (Retro Pic). But that's what happens when gringo's take them out to eat and party all the time.
Cheers,
Cubanut
Which casas have a "condom" rule? Could have fooled me (: Loutron girls seem the most insistent (and the most overpriced too!). I will agree that condom use is more common, and more likely to be requested, in Medellin than in areas with less gringos (fewer Colombians will accept that rule than the more compliant gringos).
There are ALREADY contraceptive gels, as well as VCF (vaginal contraceptive film) and the Today Sponge for the pregnancy issue. Also, the gel WILL kill HSV 1 & 2 (Herpes). It seems likely that some variation of non oxynol 9 and related compounds will be added to make an " all in one pallative".
I would encourage everybody to wear condoms except that would be hypocritical as I often will go bb if I feel a comfort level about a certain girl (and a few times when I shouldn't have). Was even better when you could buy Ora Kwik for $10 a test in Thailand to test them first (yes I know there is an incubation period during which the level of antibodies is undetectable, but it is all about reducing risk as much as possible-you can NEVER elinminate ALL risk).
LOTS of guys post about how they always use condoms, but still BB without posting about it. This is a divisive topic, but an important one.
LB,
Like I said she is darker than I like then when you said what you did I took a look see. I guess her rougher cut face would put some in question. Let me assure you though that she is ALL woman (Pic 3A).
Surfer,
Here's another one of numero cinco (Pic 5A).
Clem,
I agree that the sisters have put on a few pounds since when I met them early last year (Retro Pic). But that's what happens when gringo's take them out to eat and party all the time.
Cheers,
Cubanut
I guess you are right. I have to admit wanting Jasmine's sister bad. When I saw her with one of the Vikings about 6 months ago she was smokin hot. I think that Beersterry would agree. Now, I can't say I would or not.
By the way, have Jasmine and her sis turned full pro or were they always/still semi-pro?
Thanks for the info!
CT
Carolinaman
08-20-06, 02:55
When going into the city during the day to visit the different establishments how should you dress? What about going out at night?
Thanks,
W.
Wanderer1000
08-20-06, 04:05
Cubanut,
I'm almost certain that is Milena in pic #3. She does have a little more masculine look (as another pointed out) in the face in your two photos. I remember being with her a few times about a month ago. She's actually very feminine in appearance and demeanor in person. She was a good performer, but she wanted to do the CBJ - I think that's what I get for forgetting to do the pre-session discussion. She was better with it the second time.
But, it's 50,000 for the hour - not 55,000 at Miel & Canela. I know, no big deal - but I've found it annoying at this place in the past -- 6,000 for your two cokes - but I thought it was 2,000 per coke - okay, 4,000. They like to dick with the gringo here.
Snowbird,
Thank you for having the cojones to ask the clothing question. Please give some detailed answers gents.
Thanks,
Ticasonar
Cubanut,
What kind of camera do you use? Or what kind of camera would you recommend? Maybe a suggestion for three different price ranges : )
Thanks,
Ticasonar
Quote by Cubanut:
"I got to Miel & Cannela and was surprised that I was the only one there besides the ten girls. I struck up a conversation with a girl (Pic 3) who was a bit darker than what I usual go for but she was very engaging. Next thing I know we are locking lips right there on one of the couches. We must have made out for 25 minutes before she asked if I wanted to go upstairs, which I did. As I followed her up the spiral staircase her beautiful ass made me forget all about going back to Abydos, well that and her promise of giving BBBJ and giving up the brown eye to me. Yep that's right, not only does Miel & Cannela deliver BBBJ's but they also cater to anal sex lovers as well now. The bare back and sex is now $55,000 COP and anal is $30,000 COP more. I was going for it all. As promised she was great at the BBBJ and the pussy grinding was good as well. Then the bung hole opened up to me (covered) and I enjoyed it in three different positions. As I was about to shoot my load I pulled out of her ass in time for her to turn around and take my load on her face and even then she still attacked my nuts as to try to squeeze out every drop. A job well done indeed. We lay there for a while then cleaned up and went back downstairs and took out places on the couch again. Despite the fact that there was now customers, my girl stayed with me while we each had a beer all the while making out like lovers. I got her number with a semi promise to call her on Sunday. Afterwards I decided to forego the Abydos cutie and headed back to the Mansion."
Do ther places offer the range of services that Miel and Candela offers on the menu, or is is just Miel and Candela?
Digits
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