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Scooby1
10-08-06, 15:03
I just remembered I still had this card in my wallet from my Medellin Adventure. It is for Bello Taxi in Medellin 444 99 99, I found them to be realible and trustworthy, they are also the ones that Lina the office manager at the Mansion recomends. I'm like you I always ask "pardon senor entange ingles" to every taxi driver.

Scooby
Happy Mongering

Cubanut
10-08-06, 15:42
Med Guad,

Write the address on a paper in large easy to read letters (many taxi drivers have to pull out their reading glasses when the writing is small).

New Life
Calle 56 (Bolivia) No. 43-39
2 Piso entre el Palo y Giradot
Tel: 216-2704

If you go today, Sunday, the restaurant Ricker spoke ofwill be closed so you may not notice it because they use one of those metal roll downs but there is a yellow sign above it.. The taxi driver will go to the address and stop in front of a blue door and this is the entrance to New Life. This door is not locked and just go through it and close it behind you. take four steps to the security gate and ring the bell (red button). When you hear a buzzer sound, push open the gate and walk through and they will buzz you immediately through the second gate. Please close each gate behind you. Go up the stairs to the second floor and you will be warmly greeted by a gentleman that will seat you and ask if you want a drink (water, beer, soda,) but it's not obligatory. If you just want to see the girls right away, after sitting down, just say "Las chicas, por favor" and he will send the girls in one by one. At New Life the girls are fully clothed and introduce themselves with a handshake and give their name. After all the girls have introduced themselves, the gentleman will return and ask who you would like. Tell him the girls name. If you forget the name of the one you want you can ask the man to have them all come out at once by saying "Quero ver todas outra vez, por favor" and he will have them all line up and they will give there name and walk away. At this time you can also just point to the one you want.

Keep in mind that New Life is a no frills place. Once you pick the girl you want, she will take a moment to get her things and two towels for you and her from the back and then will return for you. New Life has showers in each room and the place is very clean.

Depending on how long your stay is I would strongly suggest you look into leaving the Dann and moving into the Mansion or Castillo or even VIPS. I have said this before that going at a new place such as Medellin can be time consuming as you try to get your bearings straight. The above places make it a no brainer way to enjoy the Paisas of Medellin. Heck as I write this, Greg 's staff at the Mansion getting the preparations ready for the usual Sunday Bar-B-Q. Lot's of chicas stopping by. However, it is only available to attend as guests of the Mansion or Castillo.


LOUTRON:

If you can, try to go to Loutron again on Monday. I suggest you go early (around noon to 2pm). Going late will mean you will get a girl that is tired and will not likely perform as well as she would have in the early afternoon. Keep in mind that Loutron ($142,000 cop/1hr) offers quality girls and the prices are double than their sister locations. For the same type of set up as Loutron, I suggest you also try Abydos, Energy or Blue Room. Current prices are: Abydos 83,000 cop/ 1hr, Energy 70,000 cop/1hr, $65,000 cop/ 1hr. All are closed on Sunday's. Only New Life is open today (Sunday). Another option is to contact Alvero (English speaking taxi driver) to see if he can round up a cutie for you.


LOUTRON
Calle 12 Sur No. 10-245
Loma los Balsos
(cerca Shopping El Tesoro)
Tel: 311-0072, 311-1179

ABYDOS
Calle 33 64-198
COLOMBIA - Antioquia, Medellín
Tel: 235-3031

ENERGY
Cra 74 49-101
(delante de Estadio)
Tel: 436-1131

BLUE ROOM
Calle 33 78-63
Tel: 250-0363


ENGLISH SPEAKING TAXI DRIVER:
Alvero is an English speaking reliable taxi driver. He also knows available girls.
Alvero's cell number: 316-252-2882

My personal favorite driver is Fernando but he doesn't speak English. Most taxis usually can be negotiated to do an hourly rate of no more than $15,000 cop as well for longer neede services.


Cheers,


Cubanut

Med Guad
10-08-06, 16:17
These suggestions are GREAT! Thank you guy so much but let me update you.

Last night after writing that report, I got the nerve up to call Alvero who's number I got from one of Scooby's posts. He's an english speaking driver. I told him my situation and he was very eager to help and said don't worry about the driving price and since it was my first time he would take really good care of me! I'm suppose to call him again this morning.

Should I trust him or follow your suggestions for New Life?? Both sound very safe and I feel confident. :)

Thanks again gentlemen!

Cubanut
10-08-06, 17:32
Med Guad,

DO BOTH!

Quite fucking around and pissing away your time with questions.

Call him NOW & go! Take a camera with you and post a report with pics!


Cheers,


Cubanut

Jchipper
10-08-06, 17:42
Do not worry that the first run was dry, It is a little intimidating in a Cab with some Guy you do not know and with the language barrier it can be flat scary! For goodness sakes if someone who knows Colombia such as Scooby 1 gives you a hook up with a good cabby use them! I know the peace of mind you will have with a Driver waiting and the fact you can share the first experience in Colombia with someone other than the computer will enhance the moment. I live here and I get diasapointed every now and then too. I always take a cabby to the Parlors, I do not have them wait anymore as I am a bit more relaxed after 20 plus trips. My usual driver was busy so I hailed a Cab from Rio Casino, I try and hail a guy with a newer cab and 50 plus years. My bad, took the first new cab with a driver 20 something and spent the next 50 minutes on a 10 minute ride to Energy. I asked why we are going a different route than I was used to and he said he knew a way with less congestion. Hmm, less congestion and the ride was 15, 000 pesos instead of the usual 5 with a tip. Next time as a last resort hit the strip clubs around San Diego, Back rooms are clean enough and you get to see the merchandise before you buy! Good Luck, and happy mongering to you! Chipper!

Tom 33
10-08-06, 20:34
"pardon senor entange ingles" to every taxi driver.

Would you mean, "Perdon senor entiende Ingles?" It might be easier to just ask in English.

Med Guad
10-08-06, 20:57
Well gentlemen, thats officially my first visit with a chica!

I had Alvero (GREAT GUY! Explained everything I needed to know and showed me around the city!) take me to New Life. He suggestion another place first (it was right by New Life) but no one answered. So he suggested having a look at the girls at New Life and see what they offered.

So we drive up, and he accomodates me upstairs since he knows i'm a noob (blue door, ring us up, just like you guys explained).

And then the chicas! Alvero warned they might not be as good as some other places, but we were there to look. The first girl was very nice, Sandra I think. I had pretty much made my decision when the second girl came out. Her name was Lina, she was PERFECT. Perfect body, perfect face. About 4 more girls came out, and they all looked great. One had a brand new set of tits (complete with a tattoo above her right tit) and braces, she was very dark. All in all they were all very beautiful but I wanted Lina. I later found out she was only 19 and she was definately a non-pro. But it was GREAT! She wouldn't kiss me on the mouth (later after laying there chatting with her she would kiss my lips when I made her laugh, but no DFK), but she put her lips all over me. No BBBJ though :( I asked once if she would without the condom but she said no and I respected that. Non-the-less it felt suprisingly better than I thought even with the condom. She then mounted me and I realized she was non-pro when she would more or less grind without going in and out. I gave her an A for effort though.

Then I bent her over (God that body was perfect) and did her doggy (she was really good at doggy, which I love) all the while looking at her in the mirror next to the bed. She would look at me in the mirror moaning things I couldn't quite understand and then she came (I'm sure it was real, we were really going at it, her muscles in her tight pussy really contracted and her back arched up, w00t). I came about 15 minutes later and we had over 20 minutes to spare. She cleaned me off and we layed there talking.

She was extremely sweet and asked where I was from while rubbing my arms and chest and asked what I did for a living and she'd kiss my face and neck when I made her laugh. I asked if I could take pictures with her clothes on but she really didnt' want to, she especially didn't want her face taken so I respected that (sorry no pics, I with I had them just to remember her by). Then I asked if she had a cell but she didn't. Alvero said she was one of the really cute ones so they probably wouldn't let her give out a number.

All in all, it was Excellent! I can't wait to do it again! I just hope I'm lucky to get another great girl who was into the sex and didn't just lay there. Alvero said Loutron is great, but there are lots of places he can take me.

I tipped Lina 10K, and paid 50K to the guy outside, and gave Alvero 25K (he didn't ask for any since it was my first time, but he was so great with everything I had to give him something.).

It was an excellent day in Medellin!

I'd like to thank everyone here for agging me on to get out, I was a bit nervous and worried about being safe, but no more! You guys rock!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Scooby1
10-08-06, 22:06
I talked to Alvero today and he said was standing in the lobby of Dan Carlton trying to find you. He said you name droped my name and wanted to know your last name so he could ask at the desk. Apparently you did not give it to him so he didn't know what room you were in and he had been waiting there for awhile for you.

Scooby
Happy Mongering

Med Guad
10-08-06, 22:21
Yea he said he talked to you! He showed up a bit early and he called my room just as I was walking out so I didn't answer (I thought it was someone else who's been calling).

I got down there and he recognized me by what I was wearing via description on the phone.

He's great! Very friendly and very reliable!

Jchipper
10-09-06, 04:39
Excelent report, thats what makes this site the best around! Good reports with real life advise to help with the problems before they happen. May I suggest Blue Room , nice location and service. Check out Sarah , she is 9.5 all round. A little more pricy at 65,000. but you will be happy with the Location of Calle 33, its a busy road and you will feel comfortable. Check the Medellin List for addy.

Happy Mongering!

Chipper

Scooby1
10-09-06, 15:50
medellin street girl guide
by radioman reposted by scooby

i believe medellin is one of the best street girl locations in the world. the sheer number of gorgeous babes with great attitudes willing to rock your world for an hour would rival anywhere in the world. i got into mongering when i found the street girls of tijuana. medellin knocks tj on it's ass. that does not mean you will not need to know your way around...you will. that is why i wrote "radioman's ultimate street girl guide."

calle 53 (near botero museum)

this is my favorite area, and perhaps the only area where you can find street girls during the day. i have found them as early as 9-10am...but the hotties start arriving early afternoon. this area is located in el centro about a block from the botero museum. calle 53 and avenida degrief is a busy street girl area where the babes keep coming till late at night. it can get dangerous after dark, so make your visits here in the light of day. the best hotties stand outside the el faro bar.

there are several other locations nearby. right behind the botero museum you will usually find skinny street chicas huffing glue or paint. i do not recommend using them. walk a block further where there are street vendors and vegetable markets, and you will find better girls standing on the corner in the middle of all this activity. this area gets busy around mid-day, and closes shop around 6pm when the shops close up shop...so go in the afternoon. sometimes you will find the little shops or restaurants that dot the area.

the area around el faro bar is mixed with hotels, and homeless people. in the daytime it is fairly safe. i prefer the el faro bar side of the street. on the other side where the hotel luna azul is located, homeless people lay on the
streets. if you find a good chica there and she wants to go to the hotel luna azul, you have to walk the gauntlet through sometimes as many as a dozen drunk colombinos to get to your short time hotel room. every one is them
eyes you up and down like they want a piece of you. it is a bit unnerving. most of them are drunk.

sometimes it's fun to bring a few street chicas to lunch inside one of the restaurants. sometimes you find a real hottie here in the middle of the day.

calle 33 (near show san diego strip club)

this area is never hopping during the day...not until late at night maybe 9-10pm...till about 2-3am. it relies on the strip club for traffic. as you stand outside show san diego...walk to your left and the first intersection is a great hangout, where you will find 2-12 chicas, and usually a street vendor or two. this is the place the taxi driver took me my first night in medellin last july and refused to wait for me because it was too dangerous. i have heard of a few problems here, but it is close enought to the strip club with a hubub of activity there (taxis and street vendors) that you could run to safety. there are other blocks nearby where girls sit on the curb waiting for a car to come up and honk. if one does, they swarm the car. be careful, some of them are thieves and will reach in and grab something.

you will also find street chicas around the corner on the right of this club...and then across the street under the overpass, but be careful. if there are chicos around do not approach these chicas. just too dangerous with chicos around. most of these babes will go with you to the mansion because it is a short cab ride away, and it beats the crappy short time hotels here.

i have had some bad experiences with some street girls from this area. one tried to steal from me, and another grabbed my chest so hard digging her finger nails in that i was sure i would be bruised for a week. you never know what you will find here, but it is always worth a look.

if you don't find anything, you can always walk into the strip club. always action inside this place.

mayorista (in the suburb of itagui)

pronounced eat-a-wee. tell your cab driver to take you to mayorista. he will probably take you to the large truck market by the same name. if so, tell him to continue on for the bars, hotels and chicas. this is a 2-3 block area lined with chicas elbow to elbow, sometimes up to 100 of them on a busy night. usually does not get busy till 10pm till 2am. i have seen good security here so i think it is pretty safe despite the late hour. the chicas line up tj style.
because there are so many, and they stand so close, they do a lot of talking. they figure out what the going rate is, and develop a bit of a street girl attitude here. it just happens, not much you can do about it.

sometimes you will find some newbies here right off the suburbs not sure if they really want to be a hooker or not. your job is to convince them that they do...they really do! you can find some real babes that way (see my report).

the babes here usually charge 20k per half hour, and 40k for an hour. i had a real hottie here demand money up front and try to up charge me after that for every little thing...so do be careful. the room will run you 17k. most
hotels are decent.

most of the babes here do not want to leave the premises, but there are ways to convince them. i got one out of there and back to the mansion for 100k for two hours (read the report) but i had ana and dannie talking her into it. i also pulled a street babe out of a cab in front of this place one time. she was leaving, and i was just showing up and had to have her. she looked like reese witherspoon.

safety...we aren't in kansas anymore!

the street girl scene is not for the nervous or squemish type. if you don't want to work for it, do not try this. the rewards are many, but only for the few, the courageous and brave.

one time i stepped over a pool of blood outside the hotel morgan. an angry chico caught his novia working at this hotel and stabbed her just minutes before i got there. here is what i do to be careful:

i never drink...ever.
i never bring my passport, just a dl.
only one atm card with a little dinero on it.
i put them inside my pants in a hidden sown in pocket.
i carry most of my dinero inside the hidden pocket.
i carry throw away money in my right front pocket prepared to throw it if i am robbed....then run.
i never go near groups of young chicos.
i never stand in one place more than a minute or so. i keep moving. don't let them think you are a target.
i have a brash attitude with a little swagger but i do not draw attention to myself.
however, i know i am the only gringo within 20 miles, so i assume i am always being watched and scoped out.
i dress like colombianos do. no shorts...no tennis shoes...always khaki slacks and leather shoes.
i make friends. i figure you never know when you are going to need somebody really badly.
at night, in the dangerous area, i do not get out of the car.
in the room, i hang my pants on the front headboard, so i always know where they are while i am banging the chica.
i never leave the chica in the room with my money. i assume she knows where i am carrying it.
i stay off the freakin sex-cercise machine in the hotel eros!

street girl prices

the first street girl i ever did in medellin offered her sex to me for 12k pesos (about $5 bucks. you could have knocked me over with a feather. humina humina...humina. i said "vamos"! i ended up paying her about 20k (about 9 bucks) because i asked for more services in the room like kissing, photos, etc. most of the street girls are going to want about 20k. we have to keep the pricing down here guys. let's not ruin this for everybody else. sometimes i will pay more for extra services. we will start with 20k and then i want besos, or photos, and i end up paying about 30k. i also always ask for an hour because i just don't want a clock watcher.

also, bring small change. if you talk to a chica, and you don't take her up, always nice to give her a few hundred pesos, just for fun. it is so little, but means a lot to them. 300k will buy them a lot.

chicas and their moms!

yes, shocking but true. i have been offered a threesome with a chica and her mom on at least three occasions. one time, the mom was not half bad. it is an odd fantasy...but i have never done it only because the old woman
does not do it for me. but it would be interesting to see what would happen in the room.

pregnant chicas

on my last trip, i saw a chica that was 6 months pregnant working the streets. sadly this was a cute chica i had done about 6 months before...but i swear to god i used a condom. she wanted to go up, but i just could not bring myself to do it. i did tip her 20k for her bebe!

street girl violence

it is a tough life on the streets, and most of these chicas have come from horrible homelives. most of them have scars and marks. on trip #5 i found a cute chica with scratch marks on her face from a vicious cat fight with another working girl. the next trip i found her again, only this time she had horrible scratches on her face from a street girl fight. i mean she must have been held down and had the hell scratched out of her cute little face. she wanted to go up, but she looked so bad i could not do it. i gave her 20k anyway. i worry about this one...who would do that to somebody???

street girl shopping trips

i can't bring gifts to the street girls because i am, running light. i don't normally bring them back to the mansion when i usually have little gifts. on a few occasions, if the girl really rocked my world, i have taken them down the street in el centro and bought them a gift. it is a richly rewarding experience. however, as soon as the girl gets back she blabs and the next time they all want to go shopping. chicas! can't live with em, can't live without em!

street girl grape vine

i now have street girls shouting my name as soon as i get out of the cab....chicas i have never done! word travels fast. i am a good guy and treat these babes well. i love street girls...so why wouldn't i. there are a few other gringos that go down to these areas...and i know a few of them. they always ask me if i know this guy or that...and usually i do. treat them well...with respect...and they will love you for it. most of these babes come from horrible home lives and local chicos have a very bad way of treating them. most of these babes love gringos....because we treat them well. it is well worth the time and effort.

radioman

Jchipper
10-09-06, 16:43
thanks scooby 1 for reposting the street guide. i have not seen it before so the reading was great. i have been to the area around the botero plaza and museum and the report is right on. homeless people, huffing chicas so skinny olive on popeye looked obese compared to these girls. what really disturbed me was the young chicas, i swear one was 13 with miniskirt and caked on makeup to entice the preditors, a few were 15 to 16 years . not my cup of tea and [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) needs to grow up before i get excited. i have seen many street girls with drug problems and they scare me, never know when hep will ruin youre day. i had a close friend die from hep and its not the way to leave this world.

so be careful,

chipper

Ricker
10-09-06, 19:19
Perfecto Med Quad ... much better than sulking in your room I'm sure .......... Hey Cuba, you and I could be motivational speakers for the sexually deprived .... hahaha ..... and with Scooby translating for us ..... incredible! (just not too sure of the language he's using) ... :) just kidding Scoob, but you do crack me up amigo .... buena Suerte!

Tom 33
10-09-06, 20:17
I had a close friend die from Hep and its not the way to leave this world.

There are vaccines for Hep A and B. My primary physician has never heard of a case of Hep C being sexually transmitted. Get vaccinated.

Hit n Run
10-09-06, 21:42
anyone know first hand if either el castillo, mansion, of club vip have in room high speed internet? if not, any reasonably priced hotel in poblado with it? thanks. (i've pm'd the owners of each and no one responds.)

Jchipper
10-09-06, 22:34
Please advise the Primary care Doctor you are using that he is incorrect in his assumption. His invidual case history is not a reliable source for you. In case you do not believe me this second time and before misinformation is spead thru the Forum., I will make it simple to verify I know my STD 101. Google in Hepatitis C and sexually transmitted disease. While risk factor is Low it is a source of transmission. FYI, my friend contracted with a druggie hooker from what they know today, sex or needle is debatable, me? Why take the risk? PS. Please do not take the correction wrong. I mean no harm with the correction.

Chipper

Cubanut
10-10-06, 03:32
Med Guad,

Glad to hear you finally busted your Colombia cherry.

Can't believe you left New Life after just doing Lina.
BTW-Lina has new boobs as well right? If that is the same Lina I did her the day before she got her new boobs and then again 3 weeks after she got them. Glad to hear she got braces because her teeth were the only other slight imperfection. Quite a beautiful young lady I might add.

Like I said I can't believe you left after only doing Lina. I usually hang out for a little while or on the days the restaurant is open downstairs (only during the week) I have lunch then head back up for another round.


Hey Ricker,

Remember the first time you took me New Life? I thought it rather funny that we showed up WITH girls (your Monie and Nathally from MM) and the girls did the intro's in front of everyone. That was motivation enough for me! Great times buddy. Got to get together sometime soon.


Cheers,


Cubanut

Ticasonar
10-10-06, 07:15
anyone know first hand if either el castillo, mansion, of club vip have in room high speed internet? if not, any reasonably priced hotel in poblado with it? thanks. (i've pm'd the owners of each and no one responds.)you might want to email them. i have stayed at mansion and they have computers in a common area. if you have airport or a wireless card, you can use your computer with internet in your room.

i think castillo is the same. vip has internet. i don't know about room. sure someone who knows will respond.

Tom 33
10-10-06, 12:32
Please advise the Primary care Doctor you are using that he is incorrect in his assumption. His invidual case history is not a reliable source for you. In case you do not believe me this second time and before misinformation is spead thru the Forum., I will make it simple to verify I know my STD 101. Google in Hepatitis C and sexually transmitted disease. While risk factor is Low it is a source of transmission. FYI, my friend contracted with a druggie hooker from what they know today, sex or needle is debatable, me? Why take the risk? PS. Please do not take the correction wrong. I mean no harm with the correction.

Chipper

Thanks for your correction. The point is that A and B are much more readily transmitted sexually, and you can be vaccinated against these two. There is risk in getting out of bed in the morning.

Almotu
10-10-06, 17:52
the short answer is that they all do but . . .

the mansion & el castillo both should have a working pc with internet access. the club vip have wifi in house but they have no public pc yet. there is a pc in the office and they often will let you use it short time.

the mansion has wifi coverage that let's you access the internet while in your room. the club vip need to fix their 2nd router but you can connect in the living room, dining area and by the pool with no problem.

the quality of the 'high speed' connection is only the low end by u.s. standards and often the dsl provider (phone company) have short outtages.

RoadGlide
10-10-06, 20:10
Scooby,

Nice cut and paste with Radioman's Street Girl Guide.

What web site did you take this from?

Almotu
10-10-06, 21:50
I believe the report was from Club ******.

Scooby1
10-10-06, 22:52
Radioglide

It was CH & Radioman wrote it and I gave him the credit for it. You already know that cause your a member I've seen your name there.
I loved your photos oF Anna Marie, Ledey, Sharon & Veronica to name a few.

Scooby

Jesi James
10-10-06, 23:23
Well, I am a member of the other site also. I personally don't think it's right, without the authors permission to post someone else's material on another site regardless if they give them credit unless they have gotten permission from the author.

Cubanut made a report over there and posted a similar if not exact report here. His choice. His material. That's the difference.

Just my .02 cents in the scheme of life.

Jes

Cuba Tourist
10-11-06, 04:36
Risk Factors and Transmission of Hep C---itis possible but unlikely to get it sexually

HCV is spread primarily by contact with blood and blood products. Blood transfusions and the use of shared, unsterilized, or poorly sterilized needles and syringes have been the main causes of the spread of HCV in the United States. With the introduction in 1991 of routine blood screening for HCV antibody and improvements in the test in the mid-1992, transfusion-related hepatitis C has virtually disappeared. At present, injection drug use is the most common risk factor for contracting the disease. However, many patients acquire hepatitis C without any known exposure to blood or to drug use.

The major high-risk groups for hepatitis C are

* Injection drug users, including those who used drugs briefly many years ago.

* People who had blood transfusions before June 1992, when sensitive tests for anti-HCV were introduced for blood screening.

* People who have frequent exposure to blood products. These include patients with hemophilia, solid-organ transplants, chronic renal failure, or cancer requiring chemotherapy.

* Infants born to HCV-infected mothers.

* Health care workers who suffer needle-stick accidents.

Other groups who appear to be at slightly increased risk for hepatitis C are

* people with high-risk sexual behavior, multiple partners, and sexually transmitted diseases

* people who use cocaine, particularly with intranasal administration, using shared equipment

EDITOR'S SUGGESTION: This is interesting, but you might consider re-posting it under the Safe Sex topic in the Special Interests section of the Forum where it will benefit the Forum Members who are specifically looking for this type of information. Thanks!

Garotoz
10-11-06, 17:18
Currently there is a large number of people that are Hep C positive and have no known risk factor - idiopathic acquisition. The largest group of Hep C + cases in the US is now among Meth users whom usually smoke the Ice form. Another puzzling issue is the very high numbers if infected people ie. as much as 60% of jail inmates are + while Hep B, HIV and other infections are much lower. Certainly there has been a lot of transmission in the past with tatoos, peircings, and unprotected receptive anal intercourse, but there is a large number of unexplained transmission.

There may be a window of high infectivity during the early stages of the infection resulting in higher rates if sexual transmission.

There is a lot of assumtion out there and there are two things people routinely lie about: sexual paarctices and drug use.

Garotoz

BeersTerry
10-11-06, 22:43
I believe room 5 has a hard connection....only because another guy there needed the room/hookup to do some work during the day.

Cuba Tourist
10-12-06, 00:58
Garatoz,

Very good comments.

Here is Wikipedia:

Sexual exposure to blood

Although HCV is not a sexually transmitted disease (STD), transmission can occur during unprotected sexual contact if the sexual activity involves blood-to-blood contact. It is important to note that the sexual spread of HCV is due to blood-blood contact rather than the presence of the virus in vaginal fluid or semen.

But you are right--no one knows yet.

EDITOR'S SUGGESTION: This is interesting, but you might consider re-posting it under the Safe Sex topic in the Special Interests section of the Forum where it will benefit the Forum Members who are specifically looking for this type of information. Thanks!

Med Guad
10-12-06, 02:35
Well I was supposet to be leaving tomorrow (Thursday) but I get to stay in Medellin until Saturday! I suppose I'll check out New Life again or call Alvero and see what he can hook me up with!

:D

I Jags
10-12-06, 03:20
I hope you know the difference between a country and a state?. You just never know these days so that is why I am asking based on the information you are seeking. As far as Medellin and Cartagena goes it all is based on what type of girl you are seeking. As noted throughout the Colombian threads, Medellin girls tend to be light skinned. The expert to ask on this is the famous Nibu Rafael and he has his own thread here on the Colombian board so get in touch with him. He is always very eager to share his information. ;)

I meant which city..I have been to Cali.

Ticasonar
10-12-06, 04:17
I personally don't think it's right, without the authors permission to post someone else's material on another site regardless if they give them credit unless they have gotten permission from the author. Fair enough, but when people put stuff on the internet, they have to expect it to get copied. I personally appreciate any info that stops me or another noob from increasing prices or wondering around a foreign city looking like a gringo :)

Garotoz
10-12-06, 16:33
I have a quad band Razor cell phone t-mobile unlocked. If I switch the Sims chip with a prepaid colombian chip will it work here, and could I do so in orher countries like Brazil? Or must I buy a prepaid type phone here?


Thanks,

Garotoz

Senor Amable
10-12-06, 17:53
Garotoz:
If your cell is Quad Band and "Truly Unlocked' it will work in Colombia with a Movistar,Comcel or Ola Chip. I speak from experience. I have a T-Mobile unlocked Razor.It will also work in Panama & Dominican Republic. I can't confirm first hand any other countries.
Amable

RoadGlide
10-12-06, 18:51
Yes. Once you unlock these phones they become true "world" phones. All you need to do is buy a local sim chip.

If you travel often outside the U.S. you should think about buying a used "quad band" phone.

RG.

RoadGlide
10-12-06, 19:58
Fair enough, but when people put stuff on the internet, they have to expect it to get copied. I personally appreciate any info that stops me or another noob from increasing prices or wondering around a foreign city looking like a gringo :)I don't think that you understand the real issue here. ISG and CH are money makers. Jackson won't even let a member here spell out the full name of another adult travel site.

I think what CubaNut does is great, by posting on multipule sites, after all it's his work and he can do whatever he wants with it.

What Scooby did was wrong, unless he had permission from the author to take exclusive web content from CH and post it here. It is nothing short of stealing!

RG.

Med Guad
10-12-06, 21:35
Guys,

I was suppose to leave today, but I get to stay until Saturday!

I'm now staying at the Hotel Park 10. Can you guys suggest anything in that area?

Thanks again!

Ticasonar
10-13-06, 05:55
I don't think that you understand the real issue here. ISG and CH are money makers. Jackson won't even let a member here spell out the full name of another adult travel site.

I think what CubaNut does is great, by posting on multipule sites, after all it's his work and he can do whatever he wants with it.

What Scooby did was wrong, unless he had permission from the author to take exclusive web content from CH and post it here. It is nothing short of stealing!

RG.First, you are a posting God and I thank you for the experiences you have shared.

What I do understand is that I pay 'dues' or whatever it's called to three sites. CH is one of them. I pay for info. I have no problem with any business/site banning certain names or phrases. I don't consider the content exclusive and therefore have no problem with someone who has paid money to view content who then copies it and shares it. I do understand your position, I just disagree with it. When I pay for a DVD, I copy it as often as I want. Now, while I like to stick it to the rich movie makers, if Radioman doesn't want his stuff put on other sites, it would seem a solution is to send Radioman a PM letting him know the dealio, then he could PM Scooby asking him to delete the post.

Mangera
10-13-06, 12:38
I was in Blue Room last week- 105,000 pesos for one and a half hours plus another 2,000 pesos for a bottled water. Selection was ok, just two very doable ladies.

As for Miel and Canela, very average looking ladies, and the cost for 1 hr was 55,000 pesos plus a 10,000 tip (optional)

Face Dos- 150,000 pesos for 1 hr right next door in the Cabanas. Great looking selection, but its a crap shoot as for service, I lucked out. Beware, drinks are outta hand in this place ( prices)

As for all of my other encounters, they were all with regular ladies from different locations, for example, the gym, mall, and a friend of a friend.
Granted my spanish is very fluent because of my ethnic background, so that helped greatly.

Good luck to all, I should be back in Medellin soon, before heading out to my favorite stomping grounds, Brasil. Laters!

Jchipper
10-13-06, 16:58
Youre Medellin cheat sheet has been my road map since I retired here, thank you. If it is available on the Net , and does not say ''copyright'', its fair game for all,,, thanks for youre efforts to make life a little smoother for those of us with bang the head syndrome! Chipper

Scooby1
10-13-06, 17:02
I don't think that you understand the real issue here. ISG and CH are money makers. Jackson won't even let a member here spell out the full name of another adult travel site.

I think what CubaNut does is great, by posting on multipule sites, after all it's his work and he can do whatever he wants with it.

What Scooby did was wrong, unless he had permission from the author to take exclusive web content from CH and post it here. It is nothing short of stealing!
RG.
Roadglide

Do you know how many times my Medellin Cheat Sheet, which I first posted on CH when another mongerer asked me to, and that I spent 2 months researching and writing, has been copied and reposted with others taking credit for it. If you go to Medellin Lists and scroll back you will see that Uncazadorez did just that. He took my Medellin Cheat Sheet renamed it and reposted it on ISG, with out giving credit to me the original author. YET, I could care less, my ego is not that big where I'd get upset about such silly stuff. At very least I did give Radioman credit for his work.

I met Radioman in Medellin and he did not seem like the kind of person who would care. He told me in Medellin, that he was going to write an SG Guide so that others could learn from his experience. I took that to mean he wanted to share it with everyone.

On the other hand, I do understand your point about CH & ISG being business competitors. Each trying to keep their sites the most informative, therefore, attracting paying subscribers (capitalism at its best). Being a business man myself, and a stanch supporter of capitalism, that is something I do understand, so therefore from this day forth I will not repost any material, from other sites, without the explicit permission of the original author.

If I made an error in judgement by attempting to share & repost Radioman's SG Guide than I apologize.


Now, while I like to stick it to the rich movie makers, if Radioman doesn't want his stuff put on other sites, it would seem a solution is to send Radioman a PM letting him know the dealio, then he could PM Scooby asking him to delete the post.
Ticasonar

I have PM'd Radioman on CH and asked him what he thought of this little controversy but have yet to hear back from him. When I do I'll make his response known.


Scooby
Happy Mongering

MexMale
10-13-06, 19:50
Here's a brief recap of my visit to Medellin - or Colombia for that matter. I hope it's helpful to those who're pondering a trip but have misgivings about safety or truth-in-advertising.

A buddy and I arrived from the States on Tuesday and stayed at an out of the way house-turned-hotel in a quiet neighborhood called Belen. We spent the first couple of days doing tourist stuff (the tramway, Botero park, Pueblito Paisa, etc.) Knowing nothing about Colombia except what we read in the papers, we didn't know how safe it would be. There certainly were soldiers and cops everywhere, but that only added to our sense of safety.

On day three we got down to business, each going his way. My plans were to visit the casas, but as I chilled at Bolivar park after a morning of sightseeing, I committed a crime of opportunity. Her name was Cristina, 19, and she wore a short black dress. She sat next to a vendor and smiled as me and my guide. The hookup was fast. A couple of words exchanged in Spanish and off we went to an hour hotel a block away next to a seafood store (?!).

There was another couple going in at the same time, so I didn't think there was much risk of being robbed or set up. Off comes the dress and the red thong. DFK, CBJ, cowgirl w/cover for 20,000 Col pesos. Good attitude and reasonable skills. No apparent health hazards.

Next day, I was first in line at the opening of Samsara (Cra. 33 at 65). Went up the stairs to the unmarked door, rang the bell and was greeted by Berenice, the administrator. In her early 20s, she's good enough to do, but she wasn't selling that day. Instead, she hooked me up w/Irina (Irene?), light skinned, 18, very good attitude. She showered, came back to the room in a towel and had her tongue in my ear and up and down my neck before I could squeeze a word. Spent 50,000 pesos and about 40 minutes rolling on a mattress unceremoniously placed in the middle of the room. Good low-budget experience. I had read in some post somewhere this place could be trouble, but my experience there was good.

Went out to a bar and went on to New Life a couple of hours later. Ended up with Alejandra, 18, short and cute, with unblemished light skin. Don't remember how much I paid for an hour (50 or 70K), but it was worth it. She's very friendly and even after we done she reminded me we still had a few minutes left and that it was alright to cuddle. I guess she felt treated right. Coming out of New Life I was staring at an empty street somewhere close to downtown, I guess. Started walking up and down till I spotted the little yellow bugs. There was still sunlight and I wasn't approached by anyone, I wasn't kidnapped or felt unsafe in any way. I was even able to go into a small grocery store and ask for directions. Made it safely to the hotel and started packing, as I was moving to El Castillo the next morning, but I'll post that report on the Medellin Mansion thread.

Garotoz
10-14-06, 03:50
I went to Antioquia region and while in the charming colonial city my driver and I stopped off at a bar. I´m sorry I don´t remember the name but it is at the opposite end of town from the church and the street is a cross street. The door is painted black and you enter by going down stairs. There are between 20 and 30 girls there. Some very attractive, most were lean. The local rate is 20k for the girl, 5k for the room, but as a gringo I was given a much higher price, so stick to the lower prices. I got worked a little. The rooms are basic, no shower in site, all condom country and best suited for the younger mongerer, ie. no foreplay, and you better be horny, because somebody else is waiting.

Garotoz

Scooby1
10-14-06, 04:16
One night I was with Alvaro (the english speaking taxi driver) his & my novias, heading up to my novias house in the Calcedo barrio of Medellin to meet her parents. We went on streets that twisted and turned always going up it was a trip and I would never be able to find it again. Anyway, Alvaro had a small leak in his tire, so we pulled over to this tire place way up in the barrios to get some air. While Alvaro was getting air, I walked across the street to this little mom & pop store, that are everywhere, to pick up some booze and some small gifts for my novias parents. After I finished I looked back acroos the street to see Alvaro working on his taxi. I looked down the street as saw some people laughing and having fun. I walked about 100 ft down the street to where about 5 or 6 people were gathered listening to music & drinking. Lucily one of them spoke english and we had a great time telling stories and drinking.

When I looked back across & up the street a little while longer, I noticed that Alvaro, the girls & the taxi were gone. After standing there scratching my head for a couple of seconds and letting that sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach subside I thought, Oh shit what am I going to do now I don't even know where I am. But keeping my head I pulled out the cell phone, I rented from the Mansion, the Bello taxi business card they provide for me and started to call for another taxi.

Then, I looked up toward the store that I had just came out of 15 minutes earlier and there they were in front of the store looking up & down the street for me. With a small sigh of relief I walked over to them and said whatcha looking for, they were all in a panic about where I was. It was kind of funny they were more worried than me. They were worried I had wandered off and gotten in some sort of trouble Alvaro said don't do that again it could be dangerous.

Maybe because Im very used to being in unsafe places and fitting in or maybe Im just plain stupid, but wandering around does not bother me. I figure If I get killed, oh well, Ive led a fulfilling life & I have no wife or kids to worry about supporting. I am not going to let fear dominate my being, I want to live life to the fullest & I really enjoy meeting new people. I do realise that philosophy of life isn't for everyone and I certainly am not advocating it for anyone. We all have to make a choice on how we live I chose not to be afraid. That night I met some great locals and had a bit of fun it was great.


Scooby
Happy Mongering

Member #4351
10-14-06, 04:48
"I figure If I get killed, oh well, Ive led a fulfilling life.." Does that mean you get BBBJs?

Spiros K
10-14-06, 05:41
Hello monger friends,

I plan to visit Medellin for 3 days and I would like to ask you if any of the following hotels is chica friendly:

a) GRAN HOTEL (www.granhotel.com.co)

b) PARK10 (www.hotelpark10.com.co)

c) NOVELTY (www.noveltysuites.com)

Also could someone give me the median prices of SWs for TLN?

Spiros K
10-14-06, 06:15
Hello monger friends,

I plan to visit Medellin for 3 days and I would like to ask you if any of the following hotels is chica friendly:

a) GRAN HOTEL (www.granhotel.com.co)

b) PARK10 (www.hotelpark10.com.co)

c) NOVELTY (www.noveltysuites.com)

Also could someone give me the median prices of SWs for TLN?

Jchipper
10-14-06, 16:41
You get what you pay for here in Colombia just like anywhere else. Out for a ride yesterday and hit 2 of the low price options to get an idea what was available. First stop, Miel y Canela, a little hard to find but after a few trips the wrong way down the one way we arrived! The outside is plain and dirty, the buzzer for the door high left, kinda hard to see or find. The girl that let us in was in training for the next Hot Dog eating contest in New York, I mean the hams on her were line backer quality! Inside there were maybe 6 girls playing poker and eating, they were good at eating, they all were prime pork. One doable the rest scrap. Then some Cracked out guy comes out of the back mumbling something and all the Madam did was shake her head when he got pissed he couldn't play cards, time to go. A couple of 2000 peso cokes and out of there! Whoo what a dive, Next stop, New Life, close to downtown, bad parking, but easy to find on Bolivia, upstairs the place was cramped with small area to view the girls, same as most introductions and pick, the attendant was a cool guy named Yugo, very professional and offered beer, water or coke upon arrival, a few other locals there and out of 12 or so girls 4 were 6. 5 to 8's. No real beauty but nice selections for all taste. I picked a cinamon skinned long legged beauty named Lorena, the best looker but the first dry fuck I have had in Colombia, even after 10 minutes of foreplay, I mean the latex was starting to burn after 20 minutes of pounding that ass, she was moaning, hell, I started to suggest some oil from the massage but I kinda enjoyed the moaning, Over all? I would give the place a thumbs up, good location, good selection, clean rooms, service with a smile, but needs expansion of the viewing area. Spent 45 minutes with girl and my buddy had no Viagra so he went 30 minutes, cost for the both of us with one beer and one coke, 75, 000 pesos, he he he, 31. 75 USA. Life is sweet!

Chipper

Shafty 7
10-15-06, 03:55
Hello monger friends,

I plan to visit Medellin for 3 days and I would like to ask you if any of the following hotels is chica friendly:

a) GRAN HOTEL (www.granhotel.com.co)

b) PARK10 (www.hotelpark10.com.co)

c) NOVELTY (www.noveltysuites.com)

Also could someone give me the median prices of SWs for TLN?I stay at the Park 10 every time I go to medellin (around 17 times).

You can bring whoever you want to your room whenever you want.

I highly recommend this hotel unless you MUST have a pool.

Garotoz
10-15-06, 06:19
Spiro K

I am staying at the Hotel Porton de La diez. It is nice, quiet, and very girl friendly.

Garotoz

Senor Amable
10-15-06, 13:35
Garotoz:
I've been going to Medellin for over four years now. I've never heard of the "Hotel Porton de la Diez."
Where is it located ? What are the rates ?
I assume this is not the " Hotel Park Diez /Hotel Park 10."
Amable

Thespy
10-15-06, 17:34
The Novelty charges $25 bucks per night, nice place walking distance to the Mall and food. Clean and great view, I would return to this place.

Garotoz
10-16-06, 00:06
Calle 10 52-181 ph 3603940 www.hotelporton10.com

Scooby1
10-17-06, 01:18
Adimea

Alvaro an trustworthy english speaking taxi driver told me he could set me up with a nice apartment for inexpensive when I return to Medellin. I have been in contact with him at least once per week since I returned to the states. He has found apartments for other mongers who have been very satisfied with his services. Give him a call it can't hurt.

This is Alvero's cell number from Medellin:
316-252-2882

From the U.S.:
011-57-316-252-2882

Tell him Scooby from Calif. referred you.

Scooby
Happy Mongering

Spiros K
10-17-06, 03:14
The Novelty charges $25 bucks per night, nice place walking distance to the Mall and food. Clean and great view, I would return to this place.Thespy thank you for the information! Do you mean that if I bring a chica for TLN they will charge me additionaly $25? Do you know if it is located near to the SW action?

Senor Amable do you know of Hotel10 has the same policy for guests? How much they charge additionaly for TLN? Is it near to the action?

Two Deep
10-17-06, 05:49
Thanks Scooby. I will certainly call him for help and maybe use him to get around when I need it.

Franko

Tom 33
10-17-06, 14:18
There is no such thing as an honest taxista. They have to pass a dishonesty profile before they are licensed.

No dar papaya.

Surfer
10-17-06, 18:03
I have a taxista de confianza in each Colombia city (though I lost contact with my guy in Bogota as i have not been there in several years). I think this is CRITICALLY IMPORTANT as I like to have a guy who I can trust to watch my valuables and take care of my chicas. I never worry about the fare as they accept what I give them graciously (and I reward loyalty).

Scooby1
10-17-06, 21:47
Adimea

I just got off the phone to Alvaro and he said he knew of a two bedroom with a balcony. One large bedroom with another small one that can be used for an office or company. for 800,000cop equals 354.23 US Dollar. The apartment is in Pabaldo 2 blocks from Parque Llares.

Cubanut
10-18-06, 01:47
Surfer,

I will concur that Hector is trustworthy AND reliable. I have come across many trustworthy drivers but they are not always reliable. He also speaks passable English.

I have used Hector MANY times but not for mongering. He is a family guy and loves his wife. I use Fernando for that. Fernando however does not speak English and that is his only downside. I also think he is trustworthy and reliable.



Cheers,


Cubanut

JudgeSchmails
10-18-06, 14:08
"There is no such thing as an honest taxista. They have to pass a dishonesty profile before they are licensed.

No dar papaya."

Papapay puesta, papaya partida.

In fact, Alvero drove me and my friend from the airport. He charged us twice and since it was our frist time in Medellin, we did not know it until we spoke with greg. He seemed like a great guy until he double charged us. I am not saying he is a bad guy. But I believe that is one reason he does not work for the Mansion anymore.

So I agree with Tom Tom. However, he did seem like a really nice guy.

Surfer
10-18-06, 20:39
A fool is born every minute (and it seems they are all headed to Medellin these days!). In SA as in Asia as in Africa etc., you must BARGAIN!

If you do not research the TRUE price (or at least ask somebody!) , and you agree to the taxistas initial asking price, I find nothing "dishonest" about him asking for a premium at all. If a pro asks you 100K, but does others for 50K without volunterring that info, is she "dishonest"? This is a rhetorical question.
"Dishonest" is agreeing to one price, then trying to renegotiate or denying the agreement later(a favorite tactic in the Philippines). Charging top dollar to clueless fools is just "capitalism" IMHO.


Note to Cubanut: While Hector does not monger himself, he has taken me mongering and introduced me to chicas many times. He is hardly shy about it. Fernando (in Cali) does not monger either (he is quite devoted to his esposa).

Almotu
10-20-06, 18:07
I believe the Novelty Suites Hotel is located on the backside of the Oviedo Mall. Seems like a high end place so be prepared to pay Dann Carlton like prices.

ChicaLover
10-20-06, 20:10
I am starting to formulate my gameplan and dates for my first trip to MDE and have a few questions. Right now my plan (it'll probably change) is to fly from Chicago to Medellin for about a 7 - 10 trip at end of November or early to mid December. I would like to hang out for a few days over a weekend, then go to Cartagena for 3-5 days during the middle of the week, and then fly back to MDE for another couple of days and then back to Chicago. I basically need to enter and exit Colombia via Medellin because I will be using frequent flyer miles and AA doesn't go to CTG. I will probably stay at the Mansion first few days and then Castillo the last couple days. I would like to sample VIP at some point as well, but not sure if it will be doable on this trip or not.

Some initial questions:

The only flights I am finding right now get into MDE at 9 at night which means I will probably get out of airport after 10:00PM. Is the route to/from airport a big concern at this time of night? I am going to try to use one of the drivers listed in these threads but from the threads and also my experiences in Latin American countries, reliability can be a definite problem and if the driver doesn't show ...should I be concerned about grabbing an unfamiliar cab at that time of the evening?

Another question regarding flying MDE to CTG. Any recommendations on best airline and prices on this route? I would like to leave as early as possible on a Monday or Tuesday morning and return anytime on a Thursday or a Friday.

Thanks in advance.

Spiros K
10-20-06, 22:03
I believe the Novelty Suites Hotel is located on the backside of the Oviedo Mall. Seems like a high end place so be prepared to pay Dann Carlton like prices.Thank you Almotu for your opinion. Probably I will change my plans and instead of Novelty I will go with Hotel10 since another member of the forum had good experience with them. Does anyone know if this hotel is near to the SW action? Do they charge extra if I bring a chica in my room?

Garotoz
10-21-06, 21:47
During my 2 week visit to Colombia I visited 3 cities and every reasonable source of P4P I could find. Overall, Colombia was a disappointment. Service with out passion and a near psychotic obcession with avoiding physical contact whenever possible was the usual fare, although I did encounter several notable exceptions. But,for the most part, it was not worth the price.

The girls in Medellin were the most beautiful and have a unique combination of physical characteristics found only on occasion elsewhere. But there is something wrong and the working girls appear to be moving in a dangerous direction - less and less contact with skin.

In fact, I believe the nations sex workers will make the final step into their street version of the digital age as soon as they discover Glad Wrap, which they will certainly rename Gringo Wrap. Through its careful application they will only then be prepared to provide each client with - Virtual Sex - and have no contact at all.

What next?

For passion and hot sex, nothing beats Brazil in the Americas.

Garotoz

Scooby1
10-22-06, 01:43
Spiros K

This is a great website for looking into hotels it provides web links to many of them.

http://www.colombialink.com/hotelescolombia/medellin/INDEX_MEDELLIN_HOTELES.html

Adimea
I don't know anything about Bogota.

Cubanut
10-22-06, 05:53
Some initial questions:

The only flights I am finding right now get into MDE at 9 at night which means I will probably get out of airport after 10:00PM. Is the route to/from airport a big concern at this time of night? I am going to try to use one of the drivers listed in these threads but from the threads and also my experiences in Latin American countries, reliability can be a definite problem and if the driver doesn't show ...should I be concerned about grabbing an unfamiliar cab at that time of the evening?

Another question regarding flying MDE to CTG. Any recommendations on best airline and prices on this route? I would like to leave as early as possible on a Monday or Tuesday morning and return anytime on a Thursday or a Friday.

Thanks in advance.



ChicaLover,

For a reliable airport pick up just arrange one though the Mansion. Lina will be sure there is a driver with your name on a paper when you walk out of the airport doors. Have a cute chica holding that paper if you want a a small wxtra charge. Go at it on your own and there is no gaurantee.

Avianca is the only airline flying from Medellin to Cartagena. Prices can be as low as $226 usd with the earliest (direct) flight leaving MDE is at 6:08am getting in to CTG at 7:30am. This fare can be had by either going to their website www.avianca.com or when your at the Mansion/Castillo have either Lina (at La mansion) or Lucha (at El Castillo) make the flight arangemnt for you. You can also call Avianca and make the reservation but it will cost $50 usd more to do so.


BTW- Are you a Chicagoan? If so be sure to visit Chicago's in the PArque Lleras area in Medellin. Great place to start off a mongers evening. I was fortunate to be around when the guys were looking for a name for the place.


Cheers,


Cubanut

Jchipper
10-22-06, 15:12
For all of you who live here in Colombia you must have seen the spech President Uribe gave last night. He was pissed about the car bomb at the Naval base last week and made no mistake in his delivery of a declaration of war against the different left wing factions. He called 3 or so by name and will extradict all terrorist to the USA , Hmm, as if we dont have enough of our own to deal with. The ''Chisme'' here is it will be a tough few years for the country and he may pay the price for his declaration of war with his life. I advise all to stay out of high profile places when in the capital, and stay away from the regions of concern that have terrorist / FARC etc, activity, so do youre homework before you come here and read the threads for current info. Colombia is in transition and you need to be aware of potential problems that may arise.

Chipper

Tom 33
10-23-06, 01:20
Avianca is the only airline flying from Medellin to Cartagena.

I believe that http://www.aerorepublica.com.co/ also services the two cities. And I believe that they fly from the MDE airport in the city. Thus there is no need to go all the way up the mountain to Rio Negro.

Shafty 7
10-23-06, 01:23
Does anyone know if this hotel is near to the SW action? Do they charge extra if I bring a chica in my room?The Park 10 is a 5 minute cab ride from San Diego (SW) area and you can bring whoever you want to your room. No ID check, no charge.

Scooby1
10-23-06, 02:38
Medellin to Cartagena:

avianca: COP $463,820=$198.00usd

aerorepublica: COP $396,500=$169.26usd

Cubanut
10-23-06, 05:49
Sorry, I meant to say that Avianca is the only airline offering DIRECT round trip flights from MDE to CTG.


Cheers,


Cubanut

Wolfy Baby
10-23-06, 17:07
i've wanted to tell you about this....i spoke to my girl on saturday, and she excitedly told me about his friday speech.... apparently , it was pretty incredible, and left her opened mouth with suprise...

it stemmed from the incident earier this week where a car bomb exploded in the military academy in bogota...only a quirk of fate (class scheduleds had been changed for an exam) kept many cadets from being killed.

what made the speech extraordinary was uribes' delivery and actual words used ... i asked her to repeat her quotes several times to make sure myself. he named names and use certain words that could only be translated as the more 'proper' way to say 'sons of bitches' ....she said he was trembling with rage and almost moved to tears as he stated the rebels "le havian visto la cara de estupido' ... this is extraordinary as it 's plain, if rather coloquial spanish that one uses to convey extreme hurt feelings and personnaly taken insults .... ("they'd thought they'd seen me with an idiots face") he said no more .... cancelled certain planned, 'temporary', handovers of counties to the rebels that were to commence the humanitarian discussions of exhange of criminal rebels for innocent kidnap victims (two not very far from cali, near palmira, much to the cheers and adulation of those concerned) and vowed total war on the rebels. she stated she not afraid to to die if this is what's necessary to rid the country of this scourge, while her mother took the more 'liberal' stance that it would would only lead to tougher times. (as if a fifty year civil war wasn't enough!)

VipMedellin
10-23-06, 20:25
Vip News.

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UPDATED CHANGES IN THE ONGOING EFFORTS TO BETTER SERVE OUR GUESTS.

1. By thoughtful consideration of our V.I.P. guest we chose to maintain and expand the community area by adding a full size pool table positioned in front of the fire place in the spacious social area.

Expressed Value:

This will help our clients enjoy the perfect ambience even on a cool night. What better that the company of a beautiful paisa, a favorite cocktail, and the camaraderie and alliances formed by new found friends with like minds.

• While other establishments continue to add rooms by removing community social (hangout space) square footage WE will NEVER minimize our guests comfort to maximize our profits at your expense! Ie.. “Where’s the Beef? Where’s the Living room?” Ours is still here!

VipMedellin
10-23-06, 21:39
These are some pics of a party at vip.

VipMedellin
10-24-06, 18:29
It looks like we are having good times.

VipMedellin
10-24-06, 18:44
Sorry on the last two posts. I forgot to uploads the pics.

Finally got it.

Member #4351
10-24-06, 19:16
Nice pics, I´m impressed.

Jchipper
10-24-06, 20:55
the speech as described by youre novia is right on. a lillte history maybe in order to help people understand the presidents reaction to the car bomb. the president grew up in medellin and his family had large land holdings which they ranched and farmed. the president grew up in a country that did not or could not protect the people from the guerilla terrorist that ravaged the country side , kidnapping and mudering the people. the wealthy ranchers got together and hired paramilitary groups to protect them from the ever present guerilla threats. it seems the ranchers created another problem when the groups that were formed to protect them went power crazy and started extorting and demanding more and more from the wealthy ranchers. the president lost his father to one of these groups , his father while holding back the guerillas attack lost his life but his efforts allowed time for the young president and his family to escape. mi novia is a lawyer in the ministry and grew up with the president, i have met alvaro on ocassion at functions i have attended. he is a brave ****** indeed to give the speech he gave. i pray the usa will give him full support to help rid this beautiful country and people of the diasease that has ravaged them for too long.

chipper

Hacke Beck
10-24-06, 23:40
Will be in medellin just one night arriving at 9 pm and living next day at 12 pm ,, looking to spend a great night with a beautiful colombiana, please send me some advises where to go so i dont lose more time ,couse its my first time in medellin. Will be staying in the Intercontinental Hotel, is it close to the action? what about taking a taxi from the airport, whats the normal price ?
Will be glad if someone can help me.

Best Regards,

Member #3435
10-25-06, 02:29
the speech as described by youre novia is right on. a lillte history maybe in order to help people understand the presidents reaction to the car bomb. the president grew up in medellin and his family had large land holdings which they ranched and farmed. the president grew up in a country that did not or could not protect the people from the guerilla terrorist that ravaged the country side , kidnapping and mudering the people. the wealthy ranchers got together and hired paramilitary groups to protect them from the ever present guerilla threats. it seems the ranchers created another problem when the groups that were formed to protect them went power crazy and started extorting and demanding more and more from the wealthy ranchers. the president lost his father to one of these groups , his father while holding back the guerillas attack lost his life but his efforts allowed time for the young president and his family to escape. mi novia is a lawyer in the ministry and grew up with the president, i have met alvaro on ocassion at functions i have attended. he is a brave ****** indeed to give the speech he gave. i pray the usa will give him full support to help rid this beautiful country and people of the diasease that has ravaged them for too long.

chipperchipper: thanks for that background info and to wolfy for your input. i try to keep up on the news from colombia as best i can by checking colombian newspapers online daily and by catching bits of the news on caracol as often as posible (it's part of my direct tv package). i do it for general interest but also consider it a good idea for security reasons. one question: was uribe's father killed by paras or by the farc? was it in a cross fire or intended? it's not clear from your post.

also, some observations of my own: it seems that there's some friction between the us embassy in bogota and the bogota city government. specifically, between ambasador woods and the mayor (his name slips my mind). yesterday, i read that the mayor said ambasador woods told him that there was no evidence of farc involvement in the military school bombing while all levels of the colombian government insists it was authored by the farc and, that they have recorded telephone conversations as proof. i'm also interested in your, wolfy's, are anyone's opinion considering the following observation: about 4 weeks ago (i think, give or take some weeks) the us embassy issued a warning to all us citizens in bogota to take extra percautions due to the iminent threat of a terrorist attack in bogota. the mayor and municipio de bogota said they knew nothing of it and demanded proof from the embassy if they felt so strongly about the threat that they would issue a public warning without consulting or advising them. do you think the two events are related; ie, the military school bombing and the us embassy advisory i refer to? i've seen no mention or discussion of it anywhere in the press.

don't take this to mean that i think relations between washington and uribe are strained. i think they are strong. as further evidence, nicolas burns - number 2 in the us state department- is currently in bogota reinforcing us support for colombia.

schmmr

Cubanut
10-25-06, 06:54
VipMedellin,

I cleaned up the Apartment 36 Pic and whoever that, is she looks very nice.

Is the girl in Pic 36 or any of the other gals available?

BTW- Are these swimwear fashions the ones on M's website? (Didn't want to use M's real name.) I remember M showing me his website went I visted VIP's the first time.


Cheers,


Cubanut

Jchipper
10-25-06, 15:19
lucho garzon is critical of uribe policy and has nothing good to say about the us policy on colombia. remember he was head of the young communist party early on in his political life. he has strong leftist tendency to say the least of him. tension with the us embasy has been of little concern to the uribe administration/ us, due to his limited capacity to affect policy on a large scale. i could continue on, i will not on this thread. the presidents father was murdered during an assault on his family, it was intentional by all accounts i have heard, the farc was attempting to sequestro family members and the presidents father held off the group while the family got away. i am no fan of secretary burns , i think he could at least speak in spanish when he is in colombia to address us concerns in south america. i am sure the us had advance warning on president uribes speech and had advance warning of the car bomb attack. make no mistake , the usa has colombia in its protective wing not because they love colombia, [even though george was here twice last year], and not because of the coca in the usa, its because of the asshole next door!

chipper

ChicaLover
10-25-06, 18:14
Cubanut,

Thanks for the information and I am from Chicago. Are the guys who run the Chicago Bar from here? Either way I'll have to check the place out to see what it's all about.

By the way I appreciate all the info in the threads and great pics ( and from everyone else as well).

I'm still trying to work things out via airlines (I'm using FF miles) and my schedule and check out MDE before the holidays.... otherwise I might be looking at January which I am resisting because I understand alot of people flock to Cartagena and prices are inflated, too many families, congestion etc. If anything I'll probably just take a long weekend trip to MDE in November or early December and worry about CTG later. Thanks again.

Wolfy Baby
10-25-06, 19:25
as they used to say on laugh in ... verrrry interesting .... i was in colombia when that embassy warning went out, and remember the colombian goverments' vehemnent denials that they were the source. it seemed to me that they were were perhaps just protecting sources and methodology, and were annoyed that us gov. may have let the cat out of the bag, so to speak. but if you couple it with fact that there were a lot less casualties because of a sudden class schedule change, things get interesting. also interesting was the fact that the biggest outcry regarding this revalation came from the mayor of bogota; remember, that even in our own country local offficials are always decrying being left out of the loop by the feds when it comes to security threats to their own citizens.

you also bring up a point i was hesitant to mention because of the inevitable outcry from some here, (just wait on it... lol) but one of the extraordinary things about the speech was that uribe named names, and the reason he did, was that he revealed that electronic, and perhaps human intelligence, proved that the same, self-rightious, son-of-a-******ng, "give peace a chance", guerrila leaders, were behind this murderous attempt. the same kind of electronic intelligence, some in our own country would deny us the right to use.

SX Lover
10-25-06, 22:44
One should be careful and avoid certain areas anytime of day as it is not a safe country. no matter Medellin or Bogota

Gonzo
10-25-06, 22:52
...but one of the extraordinary things about the speech was that uribe named names, and the reason he did, was that he revealed that electronic, and perhaps human intelligence, proved that the same, self-rightious, son-of-a-******ng, "give peace a chance", guerrila leaders, were behind this murderous attempt. this is fascinating, the disconnect between the us analysis and uribe's speech.

one puzzling thing is, if you were the leader of the farc, would you use an electronic device of any kind to blatantly ok a bombing in so many words? i can't believe any leader would be that dumb, knowing that colombia has the backing of mucho us $ for all sorts of military intelligence and equipment.

perhaps he was being bugged or listened to somehow by some high powered surveillance system - but if he was being bugged or listened to, wouldn't they know his/their location and attack? something seems weird.

Paisan80
10-25-06, 22:58
As has been said by your buddie, all paisas are available, if you've got the "look", the "game" or the money.


VipMedellin,

I cleaned up the Apartment 36 Pic and whoever that, is she looks very nice.

Is the girl in Pic 36 or any of the other gals available?

BTW- Are these swimwear fashions the ones on M's website? (Didn't want to use M's real name.) I remember M showing me his website went I visted VIP's the first time.


Cheers,


Cubanut

Member #3435
10-26-06, 00:36
Chipper:

Thanks for the background info. It helps a lot. Especially the bit about Uribe's father dieing in a shoot out and in so doing allowing his family to escape. What a hero! Was the prez present and one of those who escaped?

I would respectfully disagree on one point in your post but agee that this is not the forum to belabor it. I think Plan Colombia was initiated in 1998 by the Clinton administration prior to the asshole, er. Chavez coming on to the scene. Or maybe it was in 2000. My recollection of the chronology is admittedly lacking. Point being, I think the US has a genuine interest in a stable democratic Colombia. Chavez is just another reason to see it through.

Wolfy: Thanks for the input. Yours and Chipper's info give further insight into Uribe's commitment and motivation to defeat the Farc. I for one, fully support him and think Colombia is very deserveing of US support.

Schwmmr

Cubanut
10-26-06, 03:09
Gents,

Maybe it's just me but I really never felt a SEX BOARD is the right place to be talking POLITICS! Come on guys, cut the crap. I mean I know it's serious stuff you are talking about but why do it out here? Obviously even the moderator doesn't think it belongs on the board either because there is no Political thread.


ChicaLover,

Hey brother, if you are thinking of being in Medellin in late November there is a chance we may cross paths there. I will be in Medellin if I postphone my Curacao trip.


Hacke Beck,

The trip down the hill should be no more than $35,000 to $40,000 if you tell the taxi driver you are going to the IC. He won't put the meter on because it will be a set deal BEFORE you leave the airport.

ONLY BECAUSE you will be arriving very late, I strongly urge you go directly to Fase II or for a high class escort try calling a recommended gent named Juan at 311-309-3960. Call Juan BEFORE you arrive to tell him what you want. Give him at least 2 days to set up the meet.


VipMedellin,

I'll ask again, are the girls in the swimsuit pics just modeling or were/are they available?



Cheers to all,


Cubanut

Jchipper
10-26-06, 04:11
Pardon Senor, so lets keep it to Mongering , Agreed. Today I ventured off the beatin path and went to Centro Commercial, around the Plaza Botero. I was well rewarded when I walked about 10 cuartos to Calle 53 area and located the Kamasutra Massage parlor, what a pleasant surprise. I was shocked at the difference in the prices. I have been way overpaying at the other locations that I have been frequenting the last 2 months, like Blue Room , and even the bar scene! I had a bang up session with Jenny, a good looking girl who is attending nursing school, Braces and all , BBBJ, and Kamasutra positions I did not think I could get into or out of! I was in awe at the performance! I was only interupted once, seems Jenny has a hard time with the NIN,[ she was hollering so loud the attendant came and knocked on the door to see if she was OK], I am now a Kamasutra Nut! After this I stopped in one of the local strip bars and met Laura, not bad looking but it is a total different scene than FaseII or San Diego show, the girls let you play with them in the bar, I mean finger insertion and all if you buy them a drink! There must have been 25 girls and this is on a wednesday nite,,,,,I had a ball with the Locals !!!! Prices ?? At Kamasutra, 30mins 1 relation 25,000 pesos,,, yes I said 25,000 pesos!,, 1 hour 1 girl 35,000 pesos,,, 2 girls 2 relations special , 45,000 pesos!!!!Overall girls from 5.5 to 9.0,, I found the Colombia I used to know!!! The bar ? Bar Ejectivo, one girl , 30 mins, 40,000 pesos,,,, cheap beer , no cover, and some of the best 18 year olds I have seen ! So for those with the adventure spirit and a good local to watch youre back, Happy Mongering again! Chipper

RoadGlide
10-26-06, 07:28
Jchipper,

Great job finding out some of the smaller out of the way places. I would hope that Scooby will add those locations to the guides that he post's.

VIP; NICE real nice pic's you posted there. Is that the level of talent that hangs out at your place?

RG.

Rufus
10-26-06, 07:43
As has been said by your buddie, all paisas are available, if you've got the "look", the "game" or the money.

never truer words spoken... LOL

Jchipper
10-26-06, 16:58
I will return to the Centro area in a few days and will try and post the names of the 4 or so strip clubs in the area. Please if anyone else can make the time or has the adventure spirit to help me locate the out of the way places for the benefit of those who come here short time it would be much appreciated! Colombia is great and with a little effort it can be a adventerous memory maker all in one vacation package! I will never forget my first trip to Boys town in Mexico, the smells of the bars, the fear of the first time in Boys Town , the cab ride across the border. It is not only about the sex, it is the journey.

Chipper

Lima Busy
10-26-06, 17:45
I will return to the Centro area in a few days and will try and post the names of the 4 or so strip clubs in the area. Please if anyone else can make the time or has the adventure spirit to help me locate the out of the way places for the benefit of those who come here short time it would be much appreciated! Colombia is great and with a little effort it can be a adventerous memory maker all in one vacation package! I will never forget my first trip to Boys town in Mexico, the smells of the bars, the fear of the first time in Boys Town , the cab ride across the border. It is not only about the sex, it is the journey.

Chipper
This is pretty well covered in Worldtravel69's compliation on the MDE LIST'S thread. (go to page 5)
LB

VipMedellin
10-26-06, 17:59
Well gentelman, I hope you enjoy these pics.

Jchipper
10-26-06, 18:08
I checked out the thread by Wordtravel69 as you advised and found the Bar I mentioned in my post and the Kamasutra location were not listed. I only asked if anyone has the time or the resourses to post a ''report'' on some of the Off the beatin path spots. There are numerous locations we have no current locations on or updates on, just an address is not a report. I enjoy the reports , not just an addy. The good reports give you an idea of what to expect to pay , services offered, availability and quality of girls and service. This is what I have come to expect, not a lame post with address only. Reread the WorldTravel69 list and compare it to what I post in a week or so. You will find there are a number of locations that are fresh to the Threads.

Thanks for the advice.

Gonzo
10-27-06, 00:36
Well gentelman, I hope you enjoy these pics.Does any gentleman believe that the chica in the pink top is not a 10? 9.5? I'm curious as to guys' standards. She is outstandingly beautiful IMO.

In the pic, for example: DSCN0067.JPG

Budd Foxx
10-27-06, 02:09
I am seeking advice on who has the best places to stay in Medellin. Is the mansion better than the vip? Does the Medellin Executive have apartments for rent? I am looking for a place for a month, were would the best price be for a month.

Cubanut
10-27-06, 06:20
Does any gentleman believe that the chica in the pink top is not a 10? 9.5? I'm curious as to guys' standards. She is outstandingly beautiful IMO.

In the pic, for example: DSCN0067.JPG


Gonzo,

Hard to call a girl a 10 or even a 9.5 if the pics are smoke cloudy or dark.


Compare them with what I think a 10 is in the pics below.


BTW-Sorry Colombia fans but Karen is Brazillian. The first two shots are amateur shots. The third is her professional ad on an escort website.

Cheers,


Cubanut

Pana Nyc
10-27-06, 10:06
Gonzo,

Hard to call a girl a 10 or even a 9.5 if the pics are smoke cloudy or dark.


Compare them with what I think a 10 is in the pics below.


BTW-Sorry Colombia fans but Karen is Brazillian. The first two shots are amateur shots. The third is her professional ad on an escort website.

Cheers,


Cubanut
I luv your work Cubanut, seeing females like these walking around Brasil is why I will not be making it out to Colombia anytime soon. Cubanut what escort site did you get her from by the way, Im going to be in Brasil in 35 more days and I would luv to try her out while Im there.

Jesi James
10-27-06, 11:04
There are numerous locations we have no current locations on or updates on, just an address is not a report. I enjoy the reports , not just an addy. The good reports give you an idea of what to expect to pay , services offered, availability and quality of girls and service.Looking forward to the intel. Thanks for sharing.

Jes

Member #4351
10-27-06, 15:14
She´s in Sao Paolo, right? I saw her when I was there. Very sweet personality and obviously quite beautiful which makes up for an average (IMHO) service. However its not too often that one has the opportunity to be with an almost perfect girl like her.

Scooby1
10-27-06, 15:26
Gentlemen

I made a very huge error by posting my e-mail address on this open board. Since doing this Chavis 1 has been constantly sending me harrassing e-mails. DO NOT make the same mistake I did by posting your e-mail address directly on the board you may regret it!!!

Scooby
Happy Mongering

Buko Max
10-27-06, 16:29
I made a very huge error by posting my e-mail address on this open board.
Thats what the private messaging system is for. You need to brush up on the posting rules because your also in violation of the anti-spamming policy by posting the same message in several Columbian threads.

Scooby1
10-27-06, 17:37
Matterick

Do not turn this back around on me. When I posted my e-mail address it was meant for Hacke Beck in the Medellin Lists forum, he had asked for help on girls in Medellin, which is what this web site if for, but his was pm off and I had a phone number for him of a beautiful piasa. I should have asked him to turn it on then give him the e-mail address but I didn't and will not make that mistake twice.

Yet, after recieving several not so nice e-mails from Chivas 1 to my personal e-mail address which included telling me to get on my knees and suck dick & accusing me of bogus crap I got pissed.

Maybe I got a tad carried away posting the message in most colombia forums, which I have rectified by deleting most of them. Yet, when Chivas 1 uses the information posted on this web site to further his agenda of hate, outside of this web site to the point of sending hatefull personal e-mails to paying members, then every paying member should be aware of these actions.

Scooby
Happy Mongering

Jchipper
10-27-06, 18:00
Sometimes a good deed can be turned around and used against you. Scooby1, hats off to you for trying to help a fellow member. Sorry there are people who hate, the world is full of them. I hope for a second round in the Centro area today, will post the names of the Strip bars in the area and look frwd. to the feedback. I love you guys. You have been a real help and I enjoy the activity on the threads.

Chipper

Gonzo
10-27-06, 18:48
BTW-Sorry Colombia fans but Karen is Brazillian. The first two shots are amateur shots. The third is her professional ad on an escort website.Actually I think the two amateur shots are better, more real, less airbrushed, no makeup. You can see her real beauty.

Note to self: get thy ass to Brazil someday.

VipMedellin
10-27-06, 19:10
Play no games:

The party that we had was at a place called palmitas it is located in via las plamas its a great place to party monday threw sunday actually it is one of the only places open on dead days like Monday.

The blond girl is Melisa a very good friend of mine. Thank you for your support I greatly appreciate your honest opinion given.

Surfer
10-27-06, 19:57
The first two shots of Brazilian Karen are Moondog's; I sure hope Cubanut has his permission to repost them here. Just got an email from him yesterday and will enquire (got 2 PMs from fellow members of a private board raising the issue).

She is cute, but FAR from my idea of a 10 however. As David mentions, her reputation is for soso performance. Other friends who know her well say she is all business (not GFE at all).

Sorry Scoob but Mattrick is absolutely correct. Not only was posting your email poor judgment, it also was a rule violation. You could post asking him to PM you but if he has no PM turned on that is his problem IMHO.

Tom 33
10-27-06, 19:59
There is a reason for this rule: "Email addresses are not permitted in the Forum at any time or for any reason."

You are lucky you only got harassed by one doofus.

MoonDog
10-27-06, 21:22
Gonzo,

Hard to call a girl a 10 or even a 9.5 if the pics are smoke cloudy or dark.


Compare them with what I think a 10 is in the pics below.


BTW-Sorry Colombia fans but Karen is Brazillian. The first two shots are amateur shots. The third is her professional ad on an escort website.

Cheers,


Cubanut
Cubanut,

I took those photo of Karen, and did not give you permission to re-post them. You lifted them from XTN, and poted here without pernission. Please remove the photos of her.

Moondog

Jesi James
10-27-06, 22:32
Are your PM's turned off intentionally?

Jes

Scooby1
10-27-06, 22:53
Bad, Bad Cubanut you should be ashamed of yourself (nice pics though) LOL

Jellyballs
10-28-06, 00:22
I am seeking advice on who has the best places to stay in Medellin. Is the mansion better than the vip? Does the Medellin Executive have apartments for rent? I am looking for a place for a month, were would the best price be for a month.That is a good question. When Tom was still at VIP I would have said that was the best place to go. But Tom got screwed over by Albert and is not involved with the operation any more. Basically, it happened like this. Tom financed the VIPclub while Albert was suppose to run the business for Tom in exchange for 50%. Albert is a Colombian with no money so he could not get an operation like that off the ground without a gringo backing him. After Tom paid for everything, Albert then decided to never show up for work. If you go read some of the old posts about VIP, or talk to anyone who stayed there, all the problems with VIP resulted from Albert promising things that were not delivered while Tom was constantly struggling to keep the place going. In my personal case I was left stranded at the airport since Albert forgot to call a taxi for me. But I was not alone as at least 3 other people I met had the same problem. There were overbookings, cancellations of reservations, people left in the middle of nowhere, it was a real disaster. Finally, Tom said enough-is-enough and split up with Albert. In the end Albert ended up with everything since Tom is a guy with class who did not want to fight over it.

So I guess the question now is this: Do I want to give my money to a Colombian who ripped off his gringo partner and is famous for providing bad service? Or, do I want to give my money to a drunk Australian? For this reason alone I am going to the Mansion.

As for girls, the mansion has many, and pretty one, although getting too expensive. VIP has almost none. Albert uploaded some photos taken at a fashion show but his post is 100% misleading since those girls were not hookers. I am sure they would love to find out they were posted on this site.

Mansion has eight computers now in the rooms while VIP has only one computer in the office that is always being used by Albert. Without Tom there really is no money backing VIP anymore so you will not see any upgrades to the place, the rooms will all remain the same with tiny televisions, the bathrooms need remodeling and wireless never works. VIP is the only "hotel" I have ever seen with instructions on the toilets since they do not flush correctly. Basically, the client is told to flush 4-5 times to get the turd down the toilet. Really classy. But Albert has no cash to buy new toilets. The Mansion has big plasma screens in some of the rooms, now A/C in all room and reliable Internet. Too bad Greg can't sober up for a while.

Cubanut
10-28-06, 03:01
Gents,

I actually do most of my posts in wordpad first then cut and paste because the screen times out after 30 minutes and sometimes I get busy and I lose what I write.

That being said, I went back an re-read my post and this is the FIRST TIME I realized that when I cut and pasted I had not gone high enough because I skipped the entire first paragragh.

The first paragraph WAS AND IS SUPPOSE TO READ:

I don't know if a monger named Moondog posts out here but he had posted one of the prettiest gals I have seen on another SA board. It still is posted on that board so I hope he doesn't mind the reprint of the the pics of an honorable mention: Karen.
END

MAY MY DICK FALL OFF IMMEDIATELY IF THAT IS NOT THE TRUTH!!!

The point I was making was that it is hard for one to make a statement that a girl is a "10" from dark and smoke clouded pictures in regards to the VipMedellin pics.

Moondog,

Very sorry and have edited the post. Instead the links to the website she is being offered on should suffice to show what I think is a blonde "10" (even if it is bleached). You will notice I NEVER took credit for the pictures in any part of the post. Again sorry I cut out the top part. And what is XTN anyway? I have not heard of it or this an abreviation?

To All,

I would like to say that if I offended anyone anyone it is Moondog and NO ONE else. Therefore I only hope that he accepts my apology for my error as explained above.

ALSO TO ALL:

I love sharing pictures of beautiful women. So if you see a beautiful woman I have posted, feel free to copy, print, show your friends, tell them you took them, fucked them etc. I don't care. If I did, I would not post them at all. I have always asked for the (working) girls permission to share 1 or 2 of the photos I take of them with my friends (you, my monger brothers, I consider friends). Only twice have I been asked to regard the photos as a for my eyes only. These I have not posted.

Only one time was I concerned reuse of photos and that was when a webmaster went on another website and tried to entice mongers to join his website by using other mongers pics. The problem was that he had embedded his website address into the picture and then posted them on the rival websites picture section. Many of them were ones I took (as well as pics by other mongers). I wrote to the webmaster and advised him that I did not mind him using MY pics on HIS website but asked that he NOT use them to lure others on the other website.

Other than this I wish all of you happy mongering.

PS. Surfer, I was strictly talking looks and NOT performance. Heck, if anything, Medellin Paisa pros take the cake for soso sexual performances in my book (not GFE at all) but I have said I accept this only because of how HOT many of them look. What you or I think is a 10 can be a 9 or 8 and vice versa.


ANOTHER PS. Play No Games,

No disrespect taken but you are misreading or reading TOO much into what I posted when I commented about Alberts pics being cloudy at the VIP party. (BTW-Why is it so hard for someone to take good pictures for VIP?) Also, BEFORE you ASSUME that there is a problem between me and Albert, how about you ask Albert? Facts be told: I was invited by Albert to a VIP party and while there I took several pictures. However because these girls were suppose to be "Good Girls" I have NEVER posted them ANYWHERE. In fact I went back to VIP's the very next day and presented a couple of the girls with 8 X 11 prints in the presence of Alberts partner Tom. ALSO: I was also invited to the MODA party Albert was helping promote and took about 500 pictures of the event and the next day presented them to VIP's. Hardly a problem between me and VIP in my opinion wouldn't you agree?

BUT again I will say:
"Hard to call a girl a 10 or even a 9.5 if the pics are smoke cloudy or dark".

And I will add to it that low quality pictures do beautiful Paisas an injustice.


Cheers,


Cubanut

www.chantily.com.br/saopaulo/garotas/loiras/adriany.htm

No matter what name she goes by, I still think she's a TEN!

Garotoz
10-28-06, 03:02
While I was in Medellin I had a very good driver and I recommend him to anyone in need, whether it is touring the countryside or the back streets of San Diego. He was always straight, honest and looked out for my interests.

His name is Freddie and he can be reached at 233-7090 ask for movil 924. He is Spanish speaking.

Garotoz

Carolinaman
10-28-06, 03:05
I too have enjoyed Cuba's many posts and pics. Since this is the first time I have ever heard of this happening with him and he has APOLOGIZED I think that should take care off it. It amazes me how quickly we turn on someone who has given us so much valuable information without asking him how it happened. We instead rush to judgement and condem someone.

VipMedellin
10-28-06, 03:15
These are pics from a place that is called LA KASA close to parque lleras best place to meet women on Thursday nights.

VipMedellin
10-28-06, 03:27
These are some of our new sluts.

VipMedellin
10-28-06, 09:49
These are some extra pictures of the girls at V.I.P.

MoonDog
10-28-06, 14:13
XTN is an invitation only board, and I thought you got the photos from there. I may have jumped to conclusions about the source, as I have decided to pull down all of my photos and reports from all the boards, and thought that XTN was safe from this sort of thing.

What has happened is that guys have taken my photos and reports, and sent them to the girls to show them that they are famous. All hell breaks loose, and one of the girls even lost her job over it. Just yesterday, a girl said that someone sent her a photo of her that I took from one of the boards. I have enjoyed sharing the stories and photos for the past 7 years, but no more. as too many bad things have happened because of it. I have a met a lot of great guys from these boards, but I can not take chances of the posts falling into the wrong hands anymore.

Regarding Karen, she is as sweet and nice as she is beautiful. If you see her, treat her well.

Moondog

Member #4351
10-28-06, 14:39
I made the mistake of posting a couple of photos in the Colombia photo section a few weeks ago. Even though I covered the eyes and jewelry of the girl, some ASSHOLE DIRTBAG, (I think it was the guy who asked me on the forum in what city I met the girl), told the girl and I assume by the hysterical e-mail I received from her, the entire fairly small town where she lives. She was a non-pro and her reputation is now completely screwed thanks to this worm. I took down the photos and will obviously not post photos again outside of the Peru forum. The only result of these faggot blabbermouths´actions are that there are fewer and fewer photos being posted.

Aussie Greg
10-28-06, 15:34
MoonDog you bastard, how are you going mate.

Remember me, I met you in B.A. with Capt Dave and Jackson one day in New Orleans bar in down town.

Thanks again for all your info you gave me on San Paulo, Brazil, I had a great week their and stayed where you said at Mercuri Hotel.

If your ever in Medellin, please stop on by and have a look at my partners and my setup Medellin Mansion, all the best regards.

Aussie Greg.


XTN is an invitation only board, and I thought you got the photos from there. I may have jumped to conclusions about the source, as I have decided to pull down all of my photos and reports from all the boards, and thought that XTN was safe from this sort of thing.

What has happened is that guys have taken my photos and reports, and sent them to the girls to show them that they are famous. All hell breaks loose, and one of the girls even lost her job over it. Just yesterday, a girl said that someone sent her a photo of her that I took from one of the boards. I have enjoyed sharing the stories and photos for the past 7 years, but no more. as too many bad things have happened because of it. I have a met a lot of great guys from these boards, but I can not take chances of the posts falling into the wrong hands anymore.

Regarding Karen, she is as sweet and nice as she is beautiful. If you see her, treat her well.

Moondog

MoonDog
10-28-06, 17:10
MoonDog you bastard, how are you going mate.

Remember me, I met you in B.A. with Capt Dave and Jackson one day in New Orleans bar in down town.

Thanks again for all your info you gave me on San Paulo, Brazil, I had a great week their and stayed where you said at Mercuri Hotel.

If your ever in Medellin, please stop on by and have a look at my partners and my setup Medellin Mansion, all the best regards.

Aussie Greg.
Aussie Greg,

Nice to hear from you. That was a fun time in BA, and glad I could help you in Sao Paulo.

Colombia is in my plans. I will definitely talk to you first before heading down.

Nice to hear from you again.

Moondog

Jericho10
10-28-06, 23:55
I heard from a chica that I exchange emails with that Show San Diego fired all the chicas that had been there a while and replaced them all. Has anyone else heard that or can confirm that?

Jchipper
10-29-06, 15:29
Could be, I was there Friday nite and did not see but one regular chica. The manager was all over the waiters most of the nite with orders to keep the drinks moving from what my server told me. They better do something , I walked over from the Casino and at 12am there were less than 40 guys in the place. The chicas were more agressive too, I was hit on 5 times for sex, usally they just sit around and talk to eachother. The place still sucks, 80,000 low and 150,000 high for the hour. The place is a dump. Damage to me 2 Pilsens, one shot for a chica. 28,000 pesos. Move to Centro, its hotter action and lower prices , then if you want Propina instead of giving the house the edge.

Chipper

Bareback Bill
10-30-06, 00:10
EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted in accordance with the ISG Forum's Zero Tolerance policy regarding reports containing any personal attacks or derogatory comments directed towards another forum member.

Please be advised that Forum Members who succeed in having three or more of their reports deleted for personal attacks against other forum members will be banned under the Forum's Serial Antagonist Policy.

1 down, 2 to go

Will somebody please report this guy's next personal attack via the "Report this post to a moderator" link, and be sure to note that it will be his 2nd violation.

Thanks,

Jackson

Jellyballs
10-30-06, 03:58
EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted because the subject was not related to the purpose of this Forum, which is as follows:

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex.

JudgeSchmails
10-30-06, 17:35
This is getting comical.

But I have to agree with Xion. I have been to Colombia 4 times now and I think it is way over the top to be in a bullet proof Mitusbishi. Oh by the way, are the tires bullet proof? Cause if they want you, they can still get you. And now they will know what to look for, whoever "they" is.

I would recommend having your taxi pick up secured in advance, even by an "unsecure" taxi. Just make sure the company has a record of the call. It is why they give you a taxi number before they hang up the phone. While I would imagine it would be EXTREMELY rare to be mugged or kidnapped once in a taxi, if they have record of the call, you are far safer. I have heard of a story where a guy was pulled over by a moto with a gun. It turns out the cab driver was in on it. The gentlemen escaped due to quick thinking and ran into a crowded area. But the mistake the guy made was to pick up a taxi at the airport that he did not call for and he did not know the cab driver. Again, I feel this is an extreme story, but it apparantly did happen.

That all being said, a bullet proof car with a hot chick driving spells trouble. I mean, how many good women drivers do you know?

I'll take my chances with the "unsecure" yugos that step on the gas going down hill than a women driver driving Bill Murray's Stripes RV. But shoot, if there is a market for that, you da man.

Zidaho
10-31-06, 05:42
When Are you going to be in Medellin?? I am trying to make some room for myself the first week in December at the Mansion. Then flying over to Rio for about 10 days, finally back to Cali and the USA. I have a RT from Miami to Cali for about $450.00, I think that is good but haven't really researched it.

Any mongers who want to double team a couple of babes please let me know. I'll post some pics as soon as I find them on my hard drive.

Tom 33
10-31-06, 12:49
The Colombia visa form can be downloaded from...

http://www.colombiaemb.org/opencms/opencms/consulates/visas.html

Dollar Bill
10-31-06, 21:22
Greetings everyone,

I can't believe that I actually have I to make this a written rule, but...

Effective immediately, Forum Advertisers (and specifically Medellin Executive) cannot post reports in their competitor's thread AND they cannot post any information related to their business enterprise in any other thread except their own thread established for that purpose.

Accordingly I have deleted a number of reports in this threads that violate this basic principal.

Please report future violations to me via the "Report this post to a Moderator" link.

Thanks,

JacksonI hope that with Jackson doing this, the Medellin Thread will turn back into an information thread. If anyone has issues with an establishment, then they should post all that BS on that particular thread and leave this general thread to Q&A and Reports.

Thanks from 100% of us that actually read this thread for more than the drama!

$Bill

Jesi James
10-31-06, 21:54
Any new places of interest?

Jes

VipMedellin
11-01-06, 16:25
EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted in accordance with the Forum's Zero Tolerance policy regarding reports containing any personal attacks or derogatory comments directed towards another Forum Member or the Forum Membership in general.

Admin
11-01-06, 18:45
Greetings Everyone,

I said it once, but I guess some people didn't understand.

This thread is for discussing how and where to find chicas in Medellin.

If you want to discuss Aussie Greg's Medellin Mansion and/or Club VIP, then please use any of the appropriate threads, including any one of the following:

Aussie Greg's Medellin Mansion
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1946

Club VIP in Medellin
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2481

The Medellin Mansion vs Club VIP
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2502

Colombia Fight Club
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2494

As advised in my previous notice, all reports on the above subjects that are posted elsewhere have and will be deleted.

Thanks,

Jackson

Jchipper
11-02-06, 05:04
Going back to to ''Centro area '' tomorrow / daytime and afternoon, will post a full report in 24 hours, with the local stirp clubs in my sights, went to San Diego last week and the Chica regulars were gone and a new line up available at a reduced rate, told the Chica hittin on me I got screwed by the Bar keep on the room last time out and the 40, 000 extra he ripped me for still was a sore spot, she assured me if I took her for some sack time the rate would include the room and full service. She was a cutie named Wendy and I gave her the Peter Pan, hehehhehe, full total was more than I like but hell, its still cheap, 80, 000 pesos was a bargain, BBBJ, AND GFE sexo, Post more after the run, Chipper

Suave Gato
11-02-06, 15:32
Scooby,
That was one of the best reports I have seen in the Colombia thread! Did not want to post my comments on the List thread as it would make the report harder to find. Great Job!

sg

Scooby1
11-02-06, 18:09
Suave Gato

Thank you, Im still tweeking it a bit finding and adding stuff

If anyone has any info to add Id be happy to oblige

Scooby

Jellyballs
11-03-06, 00:19
Jackson,

I respect the fact that you are trying to stop the arguing in this thread but I have a couple of questions. If you do not allow criticism of Albert in the main thread but allow him to promote his business in other threads, then does that not seem like you are endorsing his business? You have always run this forum in a very straight forward manner but by endorsing a shifty-Colombian like Albert you are potentially setting yourself up for criticism. Second, it was Albert who started all the arguing on ISG between his customers and Greg. I sat in his office and listened to him tell his clients to post as much crap about Greg as possible. Tom never wanted this and told people not to do it. Tom always said he would like to be friendly with Greg and anyone else in the same business. Yet, as I am sure you remember, several of Albert's clients started huge arguments and insults against Greg the same week VIP opened because Albert asked them to. I think the more proper course of action for yourself it to delete Albert altogether from the Colombia forum and not endorse his business at all.

===========================================

Hi Jellyballs,

As the admin of this forum my job is to look out for the interest of the general forum membership. In other words, I don't take sides, I just keep things working.

I am well aware that Albert has been trying to use this forum to spam Greg's operation. I'm monitoring the situation.

FYI, beginning today I expect Albert to limit his postings about his place to his own thread. Please let me know otherwise.

Thanks,

Jackson

Zidaho
11-03-06, 08:51
Scooby what are you tweaking? Sounds like a good report would you please tell me about when you wrote it?

Jellyballs
11-03-06, 15:37
Greetings Everyone,

This thread is for discussing how and where to find chicas in Medellin.

If you want to discuss Aussie Greg's Medellin Mansion and/or Club VIP, then please use any of the appropriate threads, including any one of the following:

Aussie Greg's Medellin Mansion
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1946

Club VIP in Medellin
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2481

The Medellin Mansion vs Club VIP
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2502

Colombia Fight Club
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2494

As advised in my previous notice, all reports on the above subjects that are posted elsewhere have and will be deleted.

Thanks,

Jackson

Jchipper
11-03-06, 16:15
Get back to reporting not criticing others work.

Get a life and Monger!

Jchipper
11-03-06, 17:23
Congratulations St. Louis Fans, A hell of a baseball team and you won the most violent city in America top award! With violent crimes rising 20 percent in 1 year, and with a population of less than 1 million! Check out Medellin Colombia which has a population of over 3 million and has seen a reduction in all catagories of crime over the last 5 years, stats per capita, so lets get the facts before we start posting crap about a Great Metropolitan city, Medellin Colombia! Even by US standards!

Chipper

Scooby1
11-03-06, 18:38
Zidaho

I first started doing research on Medellin when I decided to go there, at the begining of this year. It was for my own information to make my trip as easy as possible. I was telling a fellow mongerer about it and he wanted a copy so I sent it to him. He sugested I post it on the site, cause everyone could benefit from it and it would help fellow mongers heading to Medellin, so I did, it was orginaly titled Scooby's Medellin Cheat Sheet.

After some members started arguing about it and useing it as a catalist to start arguments with other members, I asked Jackson to delete it, which he did. Since returning from Medellin I have been refining and updating it as info came in from this, other sites like this or the web in general. I felt that this site had matured enough for me to post what I had so far again. But it seems that I was mistaken for right after I posted it outright lies started being spread about me by members in Aussie Greg's thread. I don't know if one has to do with the other but it's a strange coincidence.

Scooby

Kickboxer151
11-03-06, 18:38
Hows it going Bro???

I spoke to your secretary yesterday. Said you have been very busy.

When are we going to have another bottle togother at my favorite watering hole (Faze II)?

How's your incredible project coming along?

I hope all is well.

Best Regards

KB151

Zidaho
11-03-06, 19:13
Yeah these guys generally do not pull their punches. Sometimes it's reminds me of several groups of boys standing around the school yard each day at recess hitting each other in the arm with suprise punches. It's kind of entertaining in a way but . . . I know it can suck when you are on the recieving end. I am not involved Scooby but you guys do have the best nitty gritty info I can find.

Can you please send me your report. And if there is anything I can do for you please let me know. Lot of guys like me who just jump on here once in awhile really appreciate the perpetual liveliness on this board even though it takes alot of space and causes some mighty sore arms.

Kickboxer151
11-04-06, 18:09
KB,

All is well will see you next week more than likely, will be taking the van to the beach for 4 days with my 3 girls let me know if you are free

I am going to send you all future messages in private e mails since jackson has taken to deleting or re writing what I send you. Evidently we are not allowed to share our personal opinions when they are not flattering to your "bestest" friend

On the upside I have just been offered 3 times what have In the property by a local who would definately take a different aproach than mine to the competition. Maybe I will sell and move to cali and start over with the same bisiness plan. Give me your input Its not a joke.

The X

WOW!! Sounds like your on the move!! As for the Medellin project...... Please contact me via pm. I tried yours and it would let me send anything to yours..

OR call Albert and he will give you my personal email address.

Thanks.

KB151

Goga Fung
11-04-06, 21:36
I recently came back from Medellin. Here is a brief report.

I stayed at the Mansion, I liked the place which is good for partying and meeting other people for mongering. If you want a quite private place Mansion is not for that.

Some people come to Colombia without any Spanish. I think it's absolutely a must to know some spanish. It's much more fun. Most local people including working girls do not know anything in english.

Food. From what I saw I was not impressed, but i'm not complaining at all. I do not think it's that cheap and great as I could read from other's reports. I went to few supposedly good restaurants in El Pablado. It was just good for the price. One good dish is about $5-10.
In my opinion restaurants of the same level in USA/europe(more expensive of course) and Easten Europe are better.

First day we went to San Diego. a very good selection of girls. I took one, do not remeber her name(John from mansion knows her), we agreed on 140,000 peso for two fucks. Very beautiful and great service. Beer and girl drinks are a little expensive in such clubs - i think it's about $4 for a beer.

Loutron. I went there at about 2 p.m. They had about 10+ girls of a pretty good quality. I took Kamila - little blond with fake tits, great personality. There was shower and massage first. Overall everything was good, but not as fantastic as some people say about Loutron. Some upscale massage parlors in Thailand can be more interesting in my opinion.

Club Mango. An awsome club. Great music, many beautiful girls. All are very friendly, you just need to speak spanish or get drunk - which i did. Ended up with a nice girl Laura. Next day i found her phone number written on a piece of paper, on a business card, and on my hand. I guess she really hoped I'd call her, but since i did not have much time, I wanted to see other girls.

Fase 2. It looks more upscale than San Diego, but the girls there were not as good for me as San Diego girls. It took very long time to pick one. It was already past 2 a.m. Finally I picked Angelica, a 19 y.o brunette. She was very good also for additional 100,000 peso did anal.

In the Mansion there is a pool party on sundays. About 15-20 girls are invited, many of them look very good and availale for 150.000 per hour.

If you know spanish, it's very easy to meet other girls which are everywhere, otherwise it's getting expensive going to strip bars. I did not try any street girls. Other people say it's cheap but might not be very safe.

Overall Medellin is a great place, one of the best I've seen for mongerng. It easily competes with Czech Republic, Ukraine, Russia, Thailand, etc..

Jesi James
11-05-06, 15:34
Well, I was enjoying the glow of a GFE with a Shakira look alike for 30000 COP (12.42 USD)for 45 minutes and sipping a ice cold pilsner in a tavern on calle 53 when a flaca with a smile that got my attention comes over and she says all the right things. When I ask how much these pleasures will run, she says 25000 COP (10.35 USD) room included. As I was enjoying the fruits of vitamin C, I elected to partake of this little spinner. Well that is where the adventure begins.

I speak spanish, take the collectivos, buses and the metro to get around. I stay in small hotels, and blend in with the locals as best I can. I have never been to Loutrons and play with the SG´s probably twice a day.

The flags start flying almost immediately. She wanted to bring her tia (aunt) I said no, only her, I saw a small baggie pass hands with her tia, when we get into the room, I tell her no drogas here. She says no problemo and goes into the bathroom for a minute and comes out and sticks her head out the door and calls her tia back. Again, the baggie passes and I am ready to get to pleasure. I never pay in front and when they argue, I place the money in a corner away from both of us, well as I was putting my shirt on the headboard she started dancing....dancing to the money and the next thing it was in her purse. I told her she needed to get started. As she removed her top and bottoms, I could see that her face was her only good point and the rest was a meth or crack shot body. I tell her start with BJ and she starts more money, more money. Well, there wasn´t much more to do, because I wasn´t banging it and I wasn´t getting a BJ and I wasn´t getting my money back. I grabbed my goods, opened the door and started a small scene, calling the police and calling her a thief and robber. I told her no problem, I would bring the police back for her and her aunt with the baggie.

It was all smoke, but it made me feel better.

As Roadglide says, you ain´t in Kansas and if I may use another of the masters quotes. ¨Pick which hill you want to die on¨.

When playing in the street, trust your gut. Flags, that I saw and didn´t react to other than noticing.

1. Wanting to bring her aunt.
2. Baggie.
3. Instant mood change when back from the bathroom.
4. Putting the money on the table and letting her get between me and it.

Solamente asunto (it is only business). Use caution when playing in the street.

I would have offered her a more aggressive response had I been local and not wanting my picture anywhere as an international incident. The saving thoughts are she will play this game with a white powder cowboy down here and they will offer her an appropriate response.

Suerte

Jes

FoxesHunter
11-05-06, 18:16
Hi,
I'm sorry if I have just posted in Medellin and Cartagena area.
I speak a fluent spanish and I'd like to know if it is better Cratagena or Medellin.
I don't like brothels, night clubs, etc
I like to meet a girlfriend to enjoy and play with her for one week.
What is it better? Medellin o Cartagena?
thanks for some info

Cubanut
11-05-06, 18:29
Gents,

MORE often than NOT, a SWG (street walker girl) is going to dissapoint. Why do you think they are street girls anyway?

Sure you may get a diamond. I know, I did but only about 30% of the time.

The one good thing is the low cost in sorting through the bad ones is not much.

The better thing I suggest if you want street like girls is going to Mayorista.

At Mayorista the girls are more accountable, are not on drugs and are better looking in face and body than druggie street girls.


Cheers,


Cubanut

Jellyballs
11-05-06, 20:57
You pick up a $10 street girl and have a bad experience? What a surprise! What were you expecting? I wonder what planet people like you come from. You take the bus instead of taxis? Most taxis cost $1-$2 in Medellin but you are too poor to take a taxi and would rather be surrounded by unbathed Colombians? Middle class Colombians would not take the bus but you seem to think it is okay. People like you should not travel. You should stay at home counting your pennies until you have enough money to do it properly. You are an embarrassment to your country.


When I ask how much these pleasures will run, she says 25000 COP (10.35 USD) room included.

I speak spanish, take the collectivos, buses and the metro to get around. I stay in small hotels, and blend in with the locals as best I can. I have never been to Loutrons and play with the SG´s probably twice a day.

Scooby1
11-05-06, 22:13
I got very lucky or Colombian ladiesl like chubby 50yr old gringo's. The first 3 days I was in Medellin I did 2 duplas of SG's and all of them were fantastic. Both time they were 8 with 6's but the action with all was first rate. So maybe I did get very lucky or my standards are slipping with age & an expanding waist line. LOL

Biffy
11-06-06, 02:36
Jellyballs

Speaking Spanish and blending in are major contributions to a mongering holding in Colombia, although I personally wouldn't bother with the bus, unless its a reasonable saving.

Some mongers out there like to save money, others like to play the rich Gringo. Its a personal choice thing

Concarne
11-06-06, 03:18
You pick up a $10 street girl and have a bad experience? What a surprise! What were you expecting? I wonder what planet people like you come from. You take the bus instead of taxis? Most taxis cost $1-$2 in Medellin but you are too poor to take a taxi and would rather be surrounded by unbathed Colombians? Middle class Colombians would not take the bus but you seem to think it is okay. People like you should not travel. You should stay at home counting your pennies until you have enough money to do it properly. You are an embarrassment to your country.

Dude...chill. The guy can travel anyway he wants, just as you can.

Kickboxer151
11-06-06, 03:24
Dude...chill. The guy can travel anyway he wants, just as you can.

I mean really... To each his own. If your on a budget then so be it. BUT if you are on a budget just be carefull as looking for a bargain might just bring you to the wrong part of town and people. Overall Colombia in my opinion is a safe place BUT its just best to avoid a bad situation than put yourself into one...

This is just my opinion.


KB151

Jellyballs
11-06-06, 04:09
Believe me I am not the type of person to drive up the price of pussy. I think that us Americans should always pay the exact price for something that a local would pay. In Medellin for a quality girl this is usually a minimal of 100K. Or course there are street girls and some houses that are cheaper but the quality often declines.

When I see Americans going to a 3rd world country and blowing lots of money foolishly it pisses me off since I know the price will rise. But at the same time when I see an American counting every penny it also pisses me off. This guy is living a lifestyle close to a bum and that reflects poorly on all of us. If the girls begin to thing that Americans are cheap they will not treat us well. Look at the cheap Italians that invade Cartagena in the summer. Any girl in LDV will tell you that the Italians are largely disliked by the girls and the Italians get bad service.

This guy reminds me of the European "backpackers" who all think they are so smart because they spend so little money. I often hear them bragging about how they found such a "nice" place to stay for only $5, and how they save so much money cooking their own food...yada, yada, yada. Well, I do not think these people are smart at all. In fact, I think they are incredibly fucking stupid. If they were smart they would know how to make money in their home country so when they traveled they could stay in 5-star hotels and eat at fine restaurants. Instead they sleep on insect infested mattresses and eat plain rice while thinking they are brilliant. These people are also incredibly jealous of us Americans who they refer to as being stupid for spending money. I hate these lowlifes and it pisses me off when I start seeing gringos acting like this.

Here are my tips for traveling. First, find out the going rate for pussy from the Internet. If you are reading this then you already know the prices. Second, never pay one peso more than the going price but also do not try to get anything cheaper. Treat the girls well and do not look like a cheapass. Imagine a poor girl who is only making $10 a fuck in a *****house who has to then have some cheapass gringo act like he is spending a lot of money. If $10 is a lot of money for someone they should not be travelling and I am deadly serious about this. If you are not smart enough to make at least $50 an hour then please do not travel as it reflects poorly on everyone else from your country. When traveling budget at least $100 a night for accommodation. Obviously there are places cheaper than $100 a night but I think this is a good number to use for averages. Some times I will stay in a $80 a night hotel and other times I will spend $150 a night. It all depends on the city where I am mongering. Finally, find the best possible girls available that are not on drugs, not standing on street corners, 18 or over and as attractive as possible. If the going price for such as girl is $100 then so be it. If it is $50 then better. Never pay more than a local would pay and never pay less than a local would pay. This will prevent inflation and will prevent looking like a cheapass. Finally, never find bottom feeder prostitutes. You want to stick your cock into the same girl who just fucked 10 Colombian taxi drivers? Street girls are often on drugs. Why not fuck the local crack***** in the good 'ol USofA? No need to travel.

Zidaho
11-06-06, 07:45
I like to travel with a $100.00/day hooker's mouth in my lap. Because I am worth it!!

Tom 33
11-06-06, 10:08
The metro costs 1050 pesos. The bus is 1000 pesos. The minimum cab fare is, I think, 3000 pesos. I will always choose the metro first. It has nothing to do with the money.

The chicas are very curious about us - even fat, old guys like me. Smile and make eye contact. You might even get lucky. Fuck the taxi.

Ricker
11-06-06, 14:16
The metro costs 1050 pesos. The bus is 1000 pesos. The minimum cab fare is, I think, 3000 pesos. I will always choose the metro first. It has nothing to do with the money.

The chicas are very curious about us - even fat, old guys like me. Smile and make eye contact. You might even get lucky. Fuck the taxi.

Tom is right on the money amigos ... the Metro in Medellin is awesome!

Great for checking out chicas and striking up a conversation.

Also, can be quicker than a taxi if you're traveling during rush hour traffic ... especially to or from the el Centro area.

Suerte!

Jesi James
11-06-06, 16:15
Metro costs for 1 person has been 1200 pesos each way. Collectivos are running 1100 pesos and buses in the 250 range.

Minimum taxi fare is 3000 and they have the fare to the airport listed at 45000 pesos. This is posted in the taxis.

Jes

Jesi James
11-06-06, 16:22
Gents,

MORE often than NOT, a SWG (street walker girl) is going to dissapoint. Why do you think they are street girls anyway?

Sure you may get a diamond. I know, I did but only about 30% of the time.

The one good thing is the low cost in sorting through the bad ones is not much.

The better thing I suggest if you want street like girls is going to Mayorista.

At Mayorista the girls are more accountable, are not on drugs and are better looking in face and body than druggie street girls.

Cheers,

CubanutI don´t see the Mayorista girls as being accountable to anyone. I have encountered powder puffers at each location. I have had alot better luck than 30 %, they may not be diamonds but they are all an adventure.

Jes

Sniper Mike
11-06-06, 16:51
The metro in Medellin is a must. Going by taxi to Centro takes too long and you have to drive through too many bad areas. Metro is the way to go.

I particularly like to go on the cable car up to the poorer neighborhoods. During the day, its pretty safe and I've met quite a few Paisas on the ride up the mountain.

Goga Fung
11-06-06, 18:40
Jellyballs, I understand your point and partially agree. But I think mostly you're wrong. Most people do not make $50 an hour. Most people make much less, I also used to work for $5 an hour. Many my friends are making about $10 an hour and work hard. But they still want to travel and have fun. I would not blame them if they want to save money.

How can you say "Never pay more than a local would pay and never pay less than a local would pay"? I'm sure locals are also very different.

I do not mind to bargain, but if the girsl provided good service, i'd give her more for that.

Ricker
11-06-06, 19:15
Jellyballs ... though you do make some valid points in your "tips for traveling" post, you do come accross a bit arrogant in your style.

To state that guys that make less than $50/hr shouldn't travel, or that guys that want to save money on their accommodations are low lifes is funny.

I agree with you about treating the chicas well and not being a total cheapass with them though.

Attitude really has much more to do with mongering than anything ... IMHO.
I don't care how much money your paying a chica, or how hot she may be ... if she's a *****, she's a ***** ... and if you're a jerk, you're a jerk.

Just like many experienced mongers ... I've found the best chicas and service in places and from chicas that were far from the high price range.

Again, just my 2 pesitos :)

Suerte!

Jellyballs
11-06-06, 19:40
I used $50 as a bare minimal. You mean there are people here who make less than this? I am self-employed and never make less than $5000 a week. I thought since $50 an hour worked out to $2000 a week that it would be the bare minimal for a traveler? No? Again this goes towards my theory that some people should not be traveling. Let me try again with different math. If you make less than $100, 000 a year then do not travel. Stay with your local street *****s. I have no problem blowing a few hundred bucks a night in the Del Rey because I CAN. I have no problem giving a hot young girl from Medellin $100 a night because I CAN.

If you cannot afford to pay, then don't play!

Kickboxer151
11-06-06, 21:13
Again to each his own on the pricing issue.... BUT Ricker and Jelly do seem to both have valid points..

Im just glad I dont have to negotiate for anyone else but myself..

LOL

KB151

Ricker
11-06-06, 21:28
Jellyballs ... what can I say except that you are trully a man to be admired by all.

Imaginate!

Cubanut
11-07-06, 03:25
jellyballs and all others,

two things i have never asked a monger is what do you do for a living and how much money do you make.

i don't believe a persons ability to do anything is governed by their race, creed, sexual orientation etc.. i especially do not think that a person's income will soley govern how much they enjoy life. keeping this in mind as it applies to mongering, i don't believe that a monger on a low budget will be guaranteed to fare any better or worse than one on a higher budget simply by the fact that they are paying less.

you the monger sets the price you want to pay for play and the girl can take it or leave it.

if you read my posts you will see i run the full gambit of mongering and even non mongering activities when i travel. i have been with the high end and low end of the p4p girl spectrum and everything in between for the chance to taste all the sweet fruits and sometimes came away with a sour apple or two but never a sour grape. many a monger out here will attest to it. however, when it comes to p4p, i share my knowledge of everything that goes with the mongering experience including the price and ends results be they good or bad.

in my younger years of experiences of mongering in the many countries i mongered in, i have always admired most the people who truly enjoy themselves on vacation. i enjoy the company of those who leave the thoughts of making a buck back home as well. i too never bring work with me on vacation. i don't even bring a laptop with me. i don't need it and don't want to even think about work or how my stocks, bonds, investments etc.. are doing while i'm on vaction. the world won't end in 10 days to 16 days that i am away (which is usually the amount of time i travel about 6 to 7 times a year).


jellyballs,

you said in one of your earlier posts you choose the mansion over vip's because of the availability of paisas. you also said you do not mind giving a hot young girl $100usd a night. well if this is the case $100usd is not going to do the job. the mansion girls are asking $150,000 cop an hour! this is about $65usd. so i am wondering where you, jellyballs, are getting hotyoung girls at $100usd for all night?

jellyballs, you said yourself in an earlier thread "this thread is for discussing how and where to find chicas in medellin". keeping this in mind i wonder if you are willing to share where and how you are scoring hot paisas at $100usd/$230,000 cop a night (toda la noche)?


cheers,


cubanut

Jellyballs
11-07-06, 04:27
What I was saying is that VIP is a dead zone with no girls. If you want to get laid there you have to buy a pumpkin and cut a hole into it.

The mansion girls are only charging prices like that because Greg lets them get away with it. How else would he get free pussy? There are PLENTY of girls in Medellin who are happy with $100 for all night. Even the girls from Medellin who work in Cartagena will fuck all night for less than $100. You do realize that many of these girls working in the houses are getting paid as little as 15,000 an hour?

As for finding the hot ones for $100 all night you simply have to find a pimp who works for Colombian men and not gringos. I met a woman who manages a lot of girls for Colombian customers. Whatever I asked for she could deliver. The typical rate was 200,000-250,000 pesos for all night. Some of the girls were students who hooked when they needed money and would never be seen in a *****house or on the street. Remember, Medellin is a big city with over 3 million people. The 100 girls that work around the gringos are just a small drop in the bucket.


You said in one of your earlier posts you choose the Mansion over VIP's because of the availability of Paisas. You also said you do not mind giving a hot young girl $100usd a night. Well if this is the case $100usd is not going to do the job. The Mansion girls are asking $150,000 an hour! This is about $65usd. So I am wondering where you, Jellyballs, are getting hot young girls at $100usd?

You also said yourself in an earlier thread "This thread is for discussing how and where to find chicas in Medellin". Keeping this in mind I wonder if you are willing to share where and how you are scoring HOT Paisas at $100usd/$230,000 cop a night (Toda La Noche)?

Thair9999
11-07-06, 06:03
I used $50 as a bare minimal. You mean there are people here who make less than this? I am self-employed and never make less than $5000 a week. I thought since $50 an hour worked out to $2000 a week that it would be the bare minimal for a traveler? No? Again this goes towards my theory that some people should not be traveling. Let me try again with different math. If you make less than $100, 000 a year then do not travel. Stay with your local street *****s. I have no problem blowing a few hundred bucks a night in the Del Rey because I CAN. I have no problem giving a hot young girl from Medellin $100 a night because I CAN.

If you cannot afford to pay, then don't play!What do you JellyBalls sell crap? By the way there are people make lot more money and they don't brag about it.

How much you pay for sex is your problem, and by the way our country USA is not that famous around the world.

Cabroncito
11-07-06, 06:04
cubanut you are right on the money bro. i hit about 10 casas, fase ii, club san diego, san diego sg's, centro strip clubs, mansion girls, and just like the last trip my favorite chica was found in mayorista.

they are almost all single moms who need cash. i have never met one who is drunk or doped out, although i am sure there are a handful. centro and san diego swg's are another story altogether.. as an “eco-monger”, i will not contribute to their destruction (ie drug use) so that eliminates most from my hit list.

yes many mayorista chicas will not provide good service, but with a few questions to gauge there attitude, personality, it is fairly easy to separate bad from good. spend a few minutes breaking the ice and getting to know them, you are conducting an employee interview after all, might as well make sure you are hiring the best !

they will always quote 25 to 30k for 30min. if they charge more walk away. they will normally insist on cbj's and most have excellent personal hygiene (as much as i love staying at aussie's mansion some of the 150k mansion girls need to take cooch cleaning lessons from them!) if you are into freaky or unprotected sex, this is not the place to go. many of the girls are actually quite reserved and conservative.

although it is far from mandatory, i always pay double for 1hr, even though i don’t need it. this will prevent them from stalling or trying to up sell you once you get to the room. i am sure many will give you good service for 30 min but 50k is not alot of money for me, and i do not want to waste time bartering. also, unlike the casas and strip clubs you are not subsidizing a middleman or drug lord. most of the girls are genuinely very sweet when you dig below the surface and greatly appreciate the fact you are not a drunk disrespectful asshole, like most of their local clientele.

i can not forget the big warm smile on the face of the last girl i met as she rushed home with a crispy 50k bill in her pocket. i was her first client as it was only 10am, so she was delighted to achieve her self imposed quota so early !

take them to hotel macedonia, which is around the corner from the main strip next to hotel deliciosa. the rooms are much cleaner and upscale than the little rat holes the girls line up in front of. you will not get the dreaded tj style knock on the door reminding you time is up. they will not be allowed inside without a cedula indicating they are 18yr old, so you do not have to worry about the girl lying about her age. if they insist on using one of their own hotels, i walk away reminding myself they could be ****, or their comrade may have had an unwelcome surprise for me upstairs..

finally, never ever pay until services are rendered or you will find yourself in the uncomfortable situation of being asked for more money as each article of clothing is removed, etc. ironically, many will ask you to pay up front. it is essentially a quick test on their part to measure your monger iq. pass the test and you will earn their respect and warm companionship. pay up front and likely leave angry and empty handed.

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Jellyballs
11-07-06, 07:41
I am not bragging. I am making a comparison of income on how it relates to spending habits and the resulting perception.

By the way, Jackson requires English to be written in the forum. If you are an American I think you should learn how to speak English.


What do you JellyBalls sell crap? By the way there are people make lot more money and they don't brag about it.

How much you pay for sex is your problem, and by the way our country USA is not that famous around the world.

Cabroncito
11-07-06, 07:56
What I was saying is that VIP is a dead zone with no girls. If you want to get laid there you have to buy a pumpkin and cut a hole into it.

The mansion girls are only charging prices like that because Greg lets them get away with it. How else would he get free pussy? There are PLENTY of girls in Medellin who are happy with $100 for all night. Even the girls from Medellin who work in Cartagena will fuck all night for less than $100. You do realize that many of these girls working in the houses are getting paid as little as 15,000 an hour?VIP: True, from my experience you have to bring them to VIP, they will not show up any other way. If they offer you any pumpkin pie, respectfully decline !

Mansion: False, Greg does not have any involvement in P4P arrangements between guests and girls. He has stated this many times..

Escort King
11-07-06, 09:12
I like to travel with a $100.00/day hooker's mouth in my lap. Because I am worth it!!

Okay so we are bdoing that much daily? ....but I have 5 for 7k USD..... allin clusive

Jellyballs
11-07-06, 11:38
Greg needs to set a maximum price at the mansion before the girls start charging as much as American prostitutes. He can do this without getting involved. Just tell the girls who charge too much not to come back. Medellin girls all work together to get the highest price and will often leave with nothing instead of lowering their prices kind of like a Union. These types of Unions need to be destroyed by finding out who the bad ones are and not allowing them to influence the others. I think 150,000 is too much for an hour considering Loutrons only pays the same quality of girls 60,000 an hour after their cut. This shows that the girls are willing to fuck for 60,000 but know the gringos will pay more. If it is true that Greg is not getting a cut or fucking them for free, why are they charging more than double what they would be making at Loutrons? If it is just inflation for gringos then it can quickly be stopped.

The same logic applies to FaceII where the rate is 150,000 girls but the club is taking more than 1/2 the money. When these girls come back to a house they should be charging less since they are keeping all the money. One told me at FaceII that she wanted 300,000 to come to the house for an HOUR since it was 150,000 for her and 150,000 to leave. I told her to come the next day when she was not working but she still wanted 300,000 which would have all went to her pocket. I knew right then she was a shark and did not talk to her further. Girls like her need to go home with nothing a few nights to realize that 300,000 is more than 3 weeks salary for a normal worker in Colombia.

I have watched the price of the Medellin girls who work in Cartagena go up constantly over the years as well. If they see a gringo they will ask a crazy price. But at the same time many will still leave for 100,000-150,000 an hour from LDV if you know how to talk to them. If a girl in LDV will fuck for 100,000 then it is crazy to pay them 150,000 in Medellin. The ones in LDV have to travel 16 hours on a bus to get to Cartagena, pay for a hotel and other expenses. Accordingly, they should be charging more money in Cartagena than in Medellin due to their expenses.

All these things need to be put into perspective. The vast majority of girls in Medellin are not working at Loutrons, Gregs or FaceII. Rather, they are working at places that serve Colombians and making far less. We need to be focusing on finding the good new girls who think 50,000 pesos is a lot of money and not the jaded ones who think their pussy is too good to work for only 150,000.

With so many girls out there it amazes me that VIP still has nothing to offer. A friend of mine was there not too long ago and said he had a better chance of getting laid on a deserted island. That pumpkin was looking good to him.


VIP: True, from my experience you have to bring them to VIP, they will not show up any other way. If they offer you any pumpkin pie, respectfully decline !

Mansion: False, Greg does not have any involvement in P4P arrangements between guests and girls. He has stated this many times..

Rufus
11-07-06, 19:02
Jellyballs, you make some very valid points and all of us should seriously consider them.
BTW... funny joke about the pumpkin.

BeersTerry
11-07-06, 19:47
You mean it was a joke ?

Fantasy
11-07-06, 20:36
I think one union deserves another. If the girls want to form a union, so can we. And the union with the money usually wins! I can certainly see Greg not wanting to get involved in negociations, But he is running a facility for gringos to fuck Colombianas. It should not be the other way around. Not many couples or families are staying at the Mansion so a few guidelines would not hurt, even if it meant keeping out the extortionists unless a guest finds her elsewhere and brings her back themselves. I really don't think Greg is taking a cut, but he is concerned about running off quality girls. I think thats just what should happen. Make an example of a few, and everyone else steps back in line. And unlike most places, it will not take Greg long to replace the lost quality. I have seen first hand in other places how letting the girls do whatever they want can put a (fork in it). After all, its not likely that Medellin Mansion, and VIP will be the only games in town much longer. Setting a good policy now, will help insure the future.

Kickboxer151
11-08-06, 00:29
I have to admit.. When I first went to Colombia I really didnt care too much about what they were charging as it was less than the Mexican girls were charging! Especially after seeing the quality VS the Mexican chicas!!

Then I started to see the Colombian girls were getting spoiled and thinking they can charge their independent services the exact same as their casa was charging us!!!

Consequently I started to take a closer look at what products and services you get for your money in Colombia versus the USA.

Here is what I came up with in regards to P4P Pricing in Colombia.

Example #1: The USA Minimum wage is roughly $65.00 per day.
Colombian Minimum wage per day is about $12.00 per day.
Lets just say 8 hours divided by $12.00 per day = $1.50 an hour!

The percentage difference between what the Colombian get for a daily minimum wage and the USA is about 441.66% less.

Example#2: An American hooker you can get for about $200.00 an hour.
USA Minimum wage @ $7.35 hour Divided by $200.00 = 27.21

SO Colombian pussy should be from $40.82 Per hour if you take the going rate of P4P in the USA at 27.21 times higher than the minimum wage per hour!
(Colombian wage $1.50 x 27.21= $40.82 per P4P per Hour)

Again there is many different factors involved to include quality of girl, bar fine if she works in a club to take her out, what is the in house casa fee, etc.....

If anything this discussion has certainly and HONESTLY Heightened my awareness & Im CERTAIN other Mongers in the ongoing quest to Not have Medellin or Colombia turn into a Costa Rica, Brazil or the USA for that matter!

Just my opinion.

Best Regards

Jellyballs
11-08-06, 01:25
Actually your estimate is generous. A Colombian worker at minimal wage gets 450,000 pesos a month for a 48 hour work week and must travel back and forth each day which also costs time and money. It works out to about $1.00 an hour at best.

The girls are therefore charging about $477 an hour if we compare it to US minimal wage. Maybe in NYC a prostitute could get away with this much but not in all cities in the US. Plus American prostitutes are partaking in illegal activity which should inflate the price.

If you use the $200 price point then the Medellin girls should be charging about $27.00 USD an hour or 62,500 pesos. Well, that is exactly about what FaceII and Loutrons pay the girls after they get their cut.

Bottom line is the girls are fucking Colombians for 60-70,000 an hour while trying to charge the gringos double. Who to blame? Well, Greg for one since he is not controlling this. Really though it is the people who overpay them that create the inflation. If we do not get it under control they will be asking US prices soon. I do not know why Greg does not work on controlling this since once they get way out of control on the prices no one will come to Medellin anymore.


I have to admit.. When I first went to Colombia I really didnt care too much about what they were charging as it was less than the Mexican girls were charging! Especially after seeing the quality VS the Mexican chicas!!

Then I started to see the Colombian girls were getting spoiled and thinking they can charge their independent services the exact same as their casa was charging us!!!

Consequently I started to take a closer look at what products and services you get for your money in Colombia versus the USA.

Here is what I came up with in regards to P4P Pricing in Colombia.

Example #1: The USA Minimum wage is roughly $65.00 per day.
Colombian Minimum wage per day is about $12.00 per day.
Lets just say 8 hours divided by $12.00 per day = $1.50 an hour!

The percentage difference between what the Colombian get for a daily minimum wage and the USA is about 441.66% less.

Example#2: An American hooker you can get for about $200.00 an hour.
USA Minimum wage @ $7.35 hour Divided by $200.00 = 27.21

SO Colombian pussy should be from $40.82 Per hour if you take the going rate of P4P in the USA at 27.21 times higher than the minimum wage per hour!
(Colombian wage $1.50 x 27.21= $40.82 per P4P per Hour)

Again there is many different factors involved to include quality of girl, bar fine if she works in a club to take her out, what is the in house casa fee, etc.....

If anything this discussion has certainly and HONESTLY Heightened my awareness & Im CERTAIN other Mongers in the ongoing quest to Not have Medellin or Colombia turn into a Costa Rica, Brazil or the USA for that matter!

Just my opinion.

Best Regards

Paisan80
11-08-06, 01:56
Of course Greg is getting free pussy from these girls, but you can't really blame him. Just like I'm sure the owners of Loutron's or some of these casa can get a free romp when they want it. Thats the fringe benefit of running these places.

But why can't he tell the girls that the price is 100K/hr. This is still more than they would get from Loutrons or any other casa. The max at the Mansion used to be 100K/hr, what has caused the price increase? Maybe it is the "Quality of the Mongerer" at the mansion nowadays.

But in reality, I only see the prices going up. Especially if the VIP has to start a P4P war with the Mansion in order to compete.

[QUOTE=Jellyballs]The mansion girls are only charging prices like that because Greg lets them get away with it. How else would he get free pussy? There are PLENTY of girls in Medellin who are happy with $100 for all night. Even the girls from Medellin who work in Cartagena will fuck all night for less than $100. You do realize that many of these girls working in the houses are getting paid as little as 15,000 an hour?
QUOTE]

Escort King
11-08-06, 02:09
I think I am going to copy this and bring it with me... maybe even have it translated into Spanish and let the chica read it.....

Fantasy
11-08-06, 02:14
Let's leave Costa Rica and its inflation right where it is, this ship can still be righted, if we all row together. Can we bus in some "scabs" from Cali to break up the union!!! or have they gone off the deep end there too. I think we should make up T-shirts with a fair price posted that we gringoswill pay for an hour and for toda la noche. Then I will send them to Avianca, Delta, American, and Copa for them to hand out to all single male flyers to wear while in Medellin.

Kickboxer151
11-08-06, 02:53
I have to admit.. When I first went to Colombia I really didnt care too much about what they were charging as it was less than the Mexican girls were charging! Especially after seeing the quality VS the Mexican chicas!!

Then I started to see the Colombian girls were getting spoiled and thinking they can charge their independent services the exact same as their casa was charging us!!!

Consequently I started to take a closer look at what products and services you get for your money in Colombia versus the USA.

Here is what I came up with in regards to P4P Pricing in Colombia.

Example #1: The USA Minimum wage is roughly $65.00 per day.
Colombian Minimum wage per day is about $12.00 per day.
Lets just say 8 hours divided by $12.00 per day = $1.50 an hour!

The percentage difference between what the Colombian get for a daily minimum wage and the USA is about 441.66% less.

Example#2: An American hooker you can get for about $200.00 an hour.
USA Minimum wage @ $7.35 hour Divided by $200.00 = 27.21

SO Colombian pussy should be from $40.82 Per hour if you take the going rate of P4P in the USA at 27.21 times higher than the minimum wage per hour!
(Colombian wage $1.50 x 27.21= $40.82 per P4P per Hour)

Again there is many different factors involved to include quality of girl, bar fine if she works in a club to take her out, what is the in house casa fee, etc.....

If anything this discussion has certainly and HONESTLY Heightened my awareness & Im CERTAIN other Mongers in the ongoing quest to Not have Medellin or Colombia turn into a Costa Rica, Brazil or the USA for that matter!

Just my opinion.

Best Regards

NOW Im not casting any stones BUT it kinda makes me wonder in reference to past posts that the Mansion Girls are charging $150K per hour???

According to todays exchange rate that comes out to $65.67 USD

WAY above the the average rate per hour! Kinda make me wonder if "aussie" is getting a cut from the girls and driving up the average price of Medellin working girls on us!

Example: The taxi drivers have made valid comments that they have to pay 10,000 pesos per airport pickups / drop offs at the mansion at the price of lets say 50,000 thats 20% commision to the "aussie". Now lets put this into prespective.. If the roomers are true. THEN why is the P4P price supposedly set at the mansion at a minimum of $150,000 per hour? Is it safe to assume that the "mansion" is getting a cut just as the casas (Lutron) is getting their cut from the girls? Is this the girls entrance fee for visiting the mansion? Afterall isnt the hourly rate at the most expensive casa (Lutron) 142,000 per hour and the girls only get about 50% of that which equals 71,000 pesos!

This is up for conversation... Just wondering if their is any substance to this theory.

Peace To All
KB151

Devoman
11-08-06, 03:06
Greg needs to set a maximum price at the mansion before the girls start charging as much as American prostitutes. He can do this without getting involved. Just tell the girls who charge too much not to come back. Medellin girls all work together to get the highest price and will often leave with nothing instead of lowering their prices kind of like a Union. These types of Unions need to be destroyed by finding out who the bad ones are and not allowing them to influence the others. I think 150,000 is too much for an hour considering Loutrons only pays the same quality of girls 60,000 an hour after their cut. This shows that the girls are willing to fuck for 60,000 but know the gringos will pay more. If it is true that Greg is not getting a cut or fucking them for free, why are they charging more than double what they would be making at Loutrons? If it is just inflation for gringos then it can quickly be stopped.

The same logic applies to FaceII where the rate is 150,000 girls but the club is taking more than 1/2 the money. When these girls come back to a house they should be charging less since they are keeping all the money. One told me at FaceII that she wanted 300,000 to come to the house for an HOUR since it was 150,000 for her and 150,000 to leave. I told her to come the next day when she was not working but she still wanted 300,000 which would have all went to her pocket. I knew right then she was a shark and did not talk to her further. Girls like her need to go home with nothing a few nights to realize that 300,000 is more than 3 weeks salary for a normal worker in Colombia.

I have watched the price of the Medellin girls who work in Cartagena go up constantly over the years as well. If they see a gringo they will ask a crazy price. But at the same time many will still leave for 100,000-150,000 an hour from LDV if you know how to talk to them. If a girl in LDV will fuck for 100,000 then it is crazy to pay them 150,000 in Medellin. The ones in LDV have to travel 16 hours on a bus to get to Cartagena, pay for a hotel and other expenses. Accordingly, they should be charging more money in Cartagena than in Medellin due to their expenses.

All these things need to be put into perspective. The vast majority of girls in Medellin are not working at Loutrons, Gregs or FaceII. Rather, they are working at places that serve Colombians and making far less. We need to be focusing on finding the good new girls who think 50,000 pesos is a lot of money and not the jaded ones who think their pussy is too good to work for only 150,000.

With so many girls out there it amazes me that VIP still has nothing to offer. A friend of mine was there not too long ago and said he had a better chance of getting laid on a deserted island. That pumpkin was looking good to him.I have to agree with Jelly on this post.

Phoenix Phx
11-08-06, 03:14
I think I am going to copy this and bring it with me... maybe even have it translated into Spanish and let the chica read it.....Like you are ever actually going to go EK?

Carolinaman
11-08-06, 05:01
When I stayed at the mansion some of the girls quoted 150,000. I spoke to Greg about this and he told me he does not set the price and that I should negotiate the deal. Initially I thought he should control the price but I now understand from another monger there he cannot control the price. If he starts telling the girls what the can charge than he crosses the line from a hotel to a brothel. He cannot afford to go there. Therefore, I got off my lazy ass and negotiated the deal. Spent about two hours with a wicked little blonde for 100,000 and 120,000 with a brunette that I just had to get a BBBJ from. There you have it. If you want to spend the 150,000 you can. If you want to dicker with the girls you can. Of course there are some girls who think it is made of gold and unless they are smoking hot we should just leave them alone. The massage houses control the deal from top to bottom but they also have to pay to do this. The mansion is a hotel. El Castillo is a hotel. Albeit with more than a few cuties running around. I also brought in a girl from Abydos for 100,000. Only one of the massage places does not allow outcall. Can't remember which one.

Giggity
11-08-06, 05:28
NOW Im not casting any stones BUT it kinda makes me wonder in reference to past posts that the Mansion Girls are charging $150K per hour?

According to todays exchange rate that comes out to $65.67 USD

WAY above the the average rate per hour! Kinda make me wonder if "aussie" is getting a cut from the girls and driving up the average price of Medellin working girls on us!Seriously... that's about the hourly labor rate for an entire crew of auto mechanics at a San Fernando Valley garage (as per the charge list posted on most auto garage walls).

Cubanut
11-08-06, 08:59
Gents,

Truth be told I have yet to come across ANY Paisa in at the Medellin Mansion that I truly think should be paid more than $100,000 cop for an hour. And by the way, where did this per hour bullshit at the Mansion even start?

I'm going to be at the Mansion soon and I will vow that I will not pay any girl more than $80,000 to $100,000 cop per hour! Period! If the girl balks then so be it. Not a centavo more will she get from me.

What do you say men? Monger Law?


BTW-In places like Cartagena it's easier to get a visiting Medellin girl for a true "Toda La Noche" because they only rent there and don't have there own home, bed, family, kid(s) to go home to.

In Medellin, many guys pay for all night but the girls take off at 5, 6, or 8 am. That's not exactly the time I'd like to bust a morning nut and besides the girls are swift to take off once up.

Another thing is that I have been reading more and more mongers reports on this board as well as others indicating that a few Mansion Paisas are a bit less than concerned about their personal hygiene. Even as of recent the Mansion thread mentions a couple of mongers saying their girls coochies were a bit smelly and the girls made no effort to wash first. I really dislike when this happens. I mean I shower before sex as a normal process. I know many guys just dive in but I don't. I'm sure many guys like and appreciate a smelly pussy but I don't. So after a night of a girl dancing and pissing, I appreciate a girl taking a a few minutes to wash. Heck, don't you wash a piece of fruit before you eat it?


Cheers,


Cubanut


PS. The girl below I met the very first (and maybe only) time she walked into the Castillo. We didn't talk money and after the deed (a decent one at that) gave her $100,000 and she never indicated it was a problem. This is why i don't see why the same doesn't apply down at the Mansion.

Mangera
11-08-06, 12:14
"Heck, don't you wash a piece of fruit before you eat it". That is a great line, was lol when I read it. It is amusing, but very true. I am also very picky about that whole scenario of cleaning up before the act. Both she and I. Laters!

Scooby1
11-08-06, 15:20
This may sound cold but it's reality. All p4p girls are a commodity like sugar, orange juice, gold etc. the price set is what the purchaser (us mongers) are willing to pay. As long as there are gringos willing to pay the high prices then the price stays high. P4P is pure capitalism, if we the purchasers of the service refuse to pay the high prices, then it will drive the price back down. It's very simple market economics, what the purchaser is willing to pay sets the price, and there are so many products for purchase its a buyers market. And it will work cause the girls know that Colombian men are not willing to pay what they charge gringos, & then they won't be able to pay for their boob jobs.

Fantasy
11-08-06, 16:26
I here bits and pieces that the Aussie is going to open in Cali. We can simply give Medellin a rest for a while, and watch how fast those prices come back into line. I have seen it happen first hand, and it always works. The problem in Costa Rica is that it got so out of hand, and their were so many potential overpayer's flowing into the country. The average newbie felt too comfortable going there, that it was overun with gringos. I do believe it's not too late in Medellin, as it is still on the "Got Balls" list of monger destinations. Let's start setting the standard as it should be. You mongers who are too lazy to negociate or learn any spanish, please go somewhere else for a few months till this situation can be corrected. If we wait much longer, it will be a carbon copy of San Jose.

Sniper Mike
11-08-06, 16:29
This may sound cold but it's reality. All p4p girls are a commodity like sugar, orange juice, gold etc. the price set is what the purchaser (us mongers) are willing to pay. As long as there are gringos willing to pay the high prices then the price stays high. P4P is pure capitalism, if we the purchasers of the service refuse to pay the high prices, then it will drive the price back down. It's very simple market economics, what the purchaser is willing to pay sets the price, and there are so many products for purchase its a buyers market. And it will work cause the girls know that Colombian men are not willing to pay what they charge gringos, & then they won't be able to pay for their boob jobs.The problem is that there is always one guy that will pay anything to be with these girls and they don't care about the money. That starts the hooker revolution!

For those who go to Rio. When I lived there in the early 90's, you would pay $25 at a Terma and many times you would pay $25 for the entire night!

From what I read now (I have not been there in 5 years), guys are paying $200 USD a night. Thats out of control.

So you Medellin mongerers out there, take note and stop the inflation now.

Sniper Mike
11-08-06, 16:31
I here bits and pieces that the Aussie is going to open in Cali. We can simply give Medellin a rest for a while, and watch how fast those prices come back into line. I have seen it happen first hand, and it always works. The problem in Costa Rica is that it got so out of hand, and their were so many potential overpayer's flowing into the country. The average newbie felt too comfortable going there, that it was overun with gringos. I do believe it's not too late in Medellin, as it is still on the "Got Balls" list of monger destinations. Let's start setting the standard as it should be. You mongers who are too lazy to negociate or learn any spanish, please go somewhere else for a few months till this situation can be corrected. If we wait much longer, it will be a carbon copy of San Jose.Robert from the Mansion is opening in Cali, Aussie Greg is staying in Medellin. Should be interesting, the Mansion in both cities.

Fantasy
11-09-06, 01:30
It was obvious when I was there last that Aussie Greg carries the "billfold" for the operations. So unless Robert is getting a huge commission from these Chicas, it stands to reason that Greg will have some involvement in Cali as well. Robert might be the man in charge in Cali, but his orders will most likely be based on Greg's wishes. But who really cares, as long as we can get these prices for girls back to a respectable level, the rest is really none of our business or concern. I think they have both proven they know how to run a very good operation. but the visiting guests (putas) seem to have just a little too much leverage.

Rufus
11-09-06, 01:42
Why do you guys just go to Majorista (sp) and bring back a cheap puta to MM if your so concerned about the price?

or... get some game!!! LOL

Fantasy
11-09-06, 02:03
But reasonable is necessary. Lets face it, you get what you pay for. But you don't need to pay for more than you are getting. With no controls in place, the price for ass goes up, but the performance, gfe or whatever the hell you want to call it does not! Matter of fact, once the price gets high enough, the girls feel that they are no longer deperate to get picked frequently and their attitude goes to the shitter. If I was mongering two or three times a year for a week here and there, overpaying would not concern me as much. I, like alot on this board, travel for a month at a time, and often. So sky high prices while the chica has the attitude that she is doing us a favor just does not cut it. If you were well off, would you want to pay $1,000.000.00 for a $425,000.00 Ferrari. At the end of 2006 i will have spent 110 nights mongering for the calendar year. At these crazy rates, and since I perfer toda la noche over short time, I could easily pay $10,000.00 too much. I guess I see your point, that really isn't that much, but I think I would still rather have it. I stand corrected I am cheap!

Aussie Greg
11-09-06, 02:05
Robert will be going to Cali just to start up the operations, I would say probley for a couple of weeks and then I will be going for a couple of weeks.
We will be doing a rotation, also with our other new partner.
We already have our staff picked out with probley Harvady, our maid from Medellin, even our other staff will be doing time their and also in Bogota, this is because its a sought of a paid working holiday for them to as we think highly of our staff.
At this moment we have our best staff that we have ever had with the two Mango´s security guards Sandro and Esiee.
As far as who makes decisions, people can speculate, all decisions are made by both Bob and I, he has his special interests and so do I.
I dont know what you mean by ¨billfold¨ Fantasy but as you say ¨who really cares¨
We are supposed to be retired but we are working as busy as ever and thats because people want to stay with us.
We as you and other people are looking forward to Cali (before christmas) and than Bogota.
Im in Panama at this moment, having a few days of and seeing again a few of my Paisa friends from Medellin, shit, if you guy´s think Medellin in getting expencive, come here for a few days and you will think Medellin is heaven.

Aussie Greg.




QUOTE=Fantasy]It was obvious when I was there last that Aussie Greg carries the "billfold" for the operations. So unless Robert is getting a huge commission from these Chicas, it stands to reason that Greg will have some involvement in Cali as well. Robert might be the man in charge in Cali, but his orders will most likely be based on Greg's wishes. But who really cares, as long as we can get these prices for girls back to a respectable level, the rest is really none of our business or concern. I think they have both proven they know how to run a very good operation. but the visiting guests (putas) seem to have just a little too much leverage.[/QUOTE]

Ricker
11-09-06, 03:53
PS. The girl below I met the very first (and maybe only) time she walked into the Castillo. We didn't talk money and after the deed (a decent one at that) gave her $100,000 and she never indicated it was a problem. This is why i don't see why the same doesn't apply down at the Mansion.


You hit the nail on the head Cubanut!

However, to be honest, though most guys visiting the Mansion seem to be good guys, experienced Mongers (like yourself) they're generally not.

To each their own ... but sitting around the Mansion waiting for chcias to show up and then paying these chicas their ridiculous prices is "lazy mongering" ... but like I said, to each their own.

Also, like Jellybelly stated earlier ... these "Mansion chicas" make up a very small percentage of available chicas in Medellin ... a little exploring goes such a long way.

Suerte amigos!

Rufus
11-09-06, 08:39
I wonder if its a case of these chicas walk into a posh place like the MM and right away they think... shit... dis is da shit! Anybody that stays in a place like this is Fucken Loaded! Surley they can pay top peso for my young fukhole(s).

WhiteLight
11-09-06, 19:04
Guys, I have a nice penthouse apt. in Poblado, patio bonito area, very close to the Dan Calton Hotel.
I am renting rooms with private baths for $45 per night, beginning Dec. 1.
This isn't a casa, or a short time hotel, it is my private apt. I'm not interested in wild, late nighters but if your descreet and civil contact me.
The floor plans are attached in "Medellin Lists". No photos yet, but it is a new renovation to US standards.
Dion.

Viajero
11-11-06, 20:22
Guys, I have a nice penthouse apt. in Poblado, patio bonito area, very close to the Dan Calton Hotel.

I am renting rooms with private baths for $45 per night, beginning Dec. 1.
This isn't a casa, or a short time hotel, it is my private apt. I'm not interested in wild, late nighters but if your descreet and civil contact me.

The floor plans are attached in "Medellin Lists". No photos yet, but it is a new renovation to US standards.

Dion.Thank you, I am interested in staying there for 3 or 4 nights. How can i arrange that? Can i just pay you when I get there? Or you like the prepayment option?

BlackSultan
11-11-06, 21:19
Gents,

Truth be told I have yet to come across ANY Paisa in at the Medellin Mansion that I truly think should be paid more than $100,000 cop for an hour. And by the way, where did this per hour bullshit at the Mansion even start?

I'm going to be at the Mansion soon and I will vow that I will not pay any girl more than $80,000 to $100,000 cop per hour! Period! If the girl balks then so be it. Not a centavo more will she get from me.

What do you say men? Monger Law?

BTW-In places like Cartagena it's easier to get a visiting Medellin girl for a true "Toda La Noche" because they only rent there and don't have there own home, bed, family, kid(s) to go home to.

In Medellin, many guys pay for all night but the girls take off at 5, 6, or 8 am. That's not exactly the time I'd like to bust a morning nut and besides the girls are swift to take off once up.

Another thing is that I have been reading more and more mongers reports on this board as well as others indicating that a few Mansion Paisas are a bit less than concerned about their personal hygiene. Even as of recent the Mansion thread mentions a couple of mongers saying their girls coochies were a bit smelly and the girls made no effort to wash first. I really dislike when this happens. I mean I shower before sex as a normal process. I know many guys just dive in but I don't. I'm sure many guys like and appreciate a smelly pussy but I don't. So after a night of a girl dancing and pissing, I appreciate a girl taking a a few minutes to wash. Heck, don't you wash a piece of fruit before you eat it?

Cheers,

Cubanut

PS. The girl below I met the very first (and maybe only) time she walked into the Castillo. We didn't talk money and after the deed (a decent one at that) gave her $100,000 and she never indicated it was a problem. This is why i don't see why the same doesn't apply down at the Mansion.If the girl doesnt buff up the chocha, then she can hop in the shower with me and I will buff up the chocha for her. Smelly chocha is a turnoff for me big time. Also Cubanut, I like your taste in paisas.

Escort King
11-12-06, 06:34
Like you are ever actually going to go EK?

I'll get there in the next few months... have done 3 trips to the DR this year... just can't get any of the mates to come and they always talk me into going to the DR with them instead...

I Jags
11-12-06, 22:10
I will be in Medellin for 30 days beginning on Thanksgiving. If anyone knows a good translator I can use while there let me know. I could pay by the day. Thanks.

Mikecnyc
11-13-06, 04:01
I Jags,

I think Scooby was the first to find this guy, but I used him at the Mansion and would reccomend him. I hired him by the hour as a driver, but he speaks english very well.

MC

Originally Posted by Scooby1

Alvero an english speaking taxi driver in Medellin, that I have mentioned before, has branched out. He has purchased a new much larger car (not a taxi) and is providing side trips outside of Medellin around Colombia. I talked to him yesterday and he asked me to spread the information that he is more than willing to take you on excursions to Manizales, Pereira, Armenia etc. to enhance your Colombian mongering experience.

Here is his contact information:
This is Alvero's cell number from Medellin:
316-252-2882

From the U.S.:
011-57-316-252-2882

BeersTerry
11-14-06, 14:59
I've used him when he was working at the mansion for a short time. I believe he has worked in NYC as a cabbie too. Nice guy.

Aussie Greg
11-14-06, 16:48
I´m not saying dont use him but be carefull with this guy, we sacked him for overcharging guests.

Aussie G,
Medellin Mansion.


I've used him when he was working at the mansion for a short time. I believe he has worked in NYC as a cabbie too. Nice guy.

Scooby1
11-14-06, 19:05
Thats very interesting because he told me it was because Greg wanted a kickback of every fare that the Mansion got him. Call him and ask him.
Scooby

JudgeSchmails
11-14-06, 19:41
He over charged me on my first visit. What he did was he charged both me and my companion for one fare each from the airport or double. We had no idea as we were in a cab for about a thirty minute drive so we had no idea what was reasonable. We were just happy to be there and not killed by gorillas. After further speaking with others, we realized, we were the proverbial gringo tourists getting dupped. He did seem like a nice guy and was pleasant to speak with. But he did take advantage of someone's naivity. Which is exactly what you are not looking for in a translator. Si?

I even said, no te atraveches de mi por ser un gringo.

Actually, I didn's say that, but I should have.:) But I am a bit smarter now (emphasize on "a bit") after several trips back.

I am not saying not to use him. I am just saying what happened to me as it was now referenced. Again, he seemed like a nice guy. But often those are the ones you need to be careful of. See southerners from the U.S. JUST KIDDING - sort of.

Tom 33
11-14-06, 19:56
Thats very interesting because he told me it was because Greg wanted a kickback of every fare that the Mansion got him. Call him and ask him.
Scooby
And the beat goes on...and on and on and on......

Scooby, kickbacks of every kind are very common in Colombia. No one would get fired for refusing because no one would refuse. Your lack of experience in Colombia is showing.

I know that you are not pleased with Greg's comments lately and that you like Alvero. But please take the high ground. Remember, there is no such things as an honest taxista or private driver. I have met very few people in Colombia who will not take advantage of an extranjero. No dar papaya.

Scooby1
11-14-06, 23:57
Im just saying that everyone has the right to hear both sides and therefore I am saying call Alvaro and see what he has to say before listening to just one side condeming him. Many people from this and other sites have used Alvaro and all have written me thanking me for recomending him. For Greg to come on here representing the Mansion (if you notice he put their name on his post) and calling him a crook is wrong and very unprofessional.

Scooby

Aussie Greg
11-14-06, 23:58
I like quoting myself !!!!

As for kickbacks from taxi drivers, we dont recieve any.

In fact its our business with our guests, if a guests pays for a airport pickup through the Mansion or drop-off and we organise it with our own employees, its our business, not a taxi driver, we dont use taxi drivers or very limited when our people are busy.

As far as Alvero goes, hes the one who overcharge some guests of ours, his excuse was, ït was a joke, he has fucked up by him self.

Now if Scooby (anybody would going by his posts would think he is an expert on Colombia (only been to Colombia once) wants to use his advise then go ahead, use Alervo, all I´ll saying is be aware.

Every body, have a nice day, regards to all.

Aussie G.


I´m not saying dont use him but be carefull with this guy, we sacked him for overcharging guests.

Aussie G,
Medellin Mansion.

Scooby1
11-15-06, 00:03
Ok mybad it wasn't a kickback it was a percentage of the fare for the Mansion recomending drivers to pick up people from the airport. And there is nothing wrong with that it's just business, but please be truthful about it.

Gregs right I have only been there once. Yet, since there is nothing at all on Medellin out there except, the little that is on this and other mongering sites. I am in the process of rewriting and updating a Medellin Travelers Guide, that I wrote for my trip, for others who don't have the time to do research. I guess I have become sort of an armchair expert on Medellin, but it is nothing like being there. That is why I use friends I made when there (of which Alvaro is one) to do the onsite research. I have two versions, a regular version and a mongers version. I have offered to e-mail it to anyone here for free, all they have to do is pm me and leave their e-mail address.

For the record, I have nothing against Greg or the Mansion I would still recomend it to any newby heading to Medellin, it's a great place and they provide fantastic service.


Scooby

Sailor2006
11-15-06, 00:41
first scooby i don't know you, and from what i have heard about you i probly wouldnt like you (i don't like conservatives). but i will say this you put togeather an awsome guide, it was very helpfull. some of the helpfull things were 1. address 2. names and locations of clubs. 3. you had cards and mini maps, 4. you werent shifted toward any direction or sponsor. prices are something that varies but you gave a good indication where prices lay. over all it will be helpfull to any newcomer to medellin. weather you were there for one day or 2 years the information was fact, and it helps. i wish someone would provided information like that for other cities, its hard to pull facts about clubs and prices and over all enviorment for a new place.

and for anyones information becarefull with taxi's. some will have speedy meters, some will not even turn on the meter, some will be honest and provided good service. columbia is a place now where you have to be carefull about how much you spend. the pay rate for people in columbia seems to validate stealing or overcharging of gringos, thats life happens everywhere but i think this board is setup to provided info so people don't get overchraged or taken advantage of, this will bother some hotel owners or people who would like to be doing 100% of the over charging.

i'll back up sooby on this i heard as well that greg takes a % of money from taxies, i have spoken to them, they have told more, more like complained about it. this pretty much goes in line from everything eles i have seen in medellin. money rules, and overpricing is common, doesnt matter weather they are columbian, gringo, or aussie.

i'll probly get alot of heat for saying this, but its true. i mean do you think people are in bussiness for the fun of it, ooh i am retired i do this for fun, its my life style, blah< blah $$$$$ blah $$$$ blah $$$$ blah $$$$ blah blah $$$$$. if they can get a cut on the taxies becuase we will pay it they will, if they can get a cut on the girls they will, if they can raise prices on rooms cut back on service they will. its about money for them, and that is the american way, i am fine with it, i just hate lairs and bullshitters, also paying too much, just rember you are in columbia the average pay a day is 20, 000 to 30, 000 pesos, taxies for an hour of service cost you 17, 000 to 20, 000 pesos an hour. use that to measure the cost. ok now you can let the shit fly, all i say is to those who go off attacking me, becuase i attacked the aussie i forgive you, your only doing it becuase you actually get laid in his place, thus he provides the snatch, i get it, and i feel sorry for you.

Ricker
11-15-06, 01:55
Hey Sailor ... amigo. After 2 months in COLOMBIA you should realize that you were not in ColUmbia. .. And of course these guys are in biz for profit ... so is every other hotel in the WORLD ... duh :) ... PS: I've never been w a Mansion chica. Please dont feel sorry for me. .. Suerte.

Tom 33
11-15-06, 02:31
Hey Sailor ... amigo. After 2 months in COLOMBIA you should realize that you were not in ColUmbia. .. And of course these guys are in biz for profit ... so is every other hotel in the WORLD ... duh :) ... PS: I've never been w a Mansion chica. Please dont feel sorry for me. .. Suerte.

I prefer Culombia.

Surfer
11-15-06, 02:32
As anywhere, hotel provided rides are convenient but you pay for that convenience. MM is no different. Of COURSE they make money on providing rides (you can bet they pay their "employees" much less than an independent taxi driver earns for an airport trip). And Scooby IS correct that the Mansion charges taxis for the privilege of meeting its guests. I agree there is nothing wrong with them doing that; ANYBODY who thinks Greg is running the Mansion for ANY reason other than profit (and free sex from Mansion girls) is a gullible fool (I got a bridge made out of Gold here to sell you!)

The fact that Greg is not satisfied to post just in the Mansion thread (while whining to Jackson about Albert/VIP posting in the Mansion thread) also speaks volumes about his lack of business ethics (he deleted my comment in Mansion thread about the $$ he still owes me from one of his bait & switch stunts which I posted about in response to his flame piece questioning my knowledge of Colombia.). I did NOT publically raise those issues until he flamed me for my comment decrying the spread of monger hotels to Cali (in the Cali folder).

I disagree with Tom's comment that all taxistas are dishonest opportunists (although speaking with them in Spanish, and treating them as friends rather than vassals, helps develop camraderie). I have met several who have become personal friends. I have left all my valuables with Fernando while I went into a casa on many occasions. We NEVER discuss what I pay him (and I am generous and ask others whom I refer to him to do the same). Ditto with Hector.

For newbies on a first time visit having the Mansion send THEIR driver to pick you up might make sense. Experienced travelers with good Spanish skills can do fine on their own, and even non Spanish speakers can just call Hector (who speaks good English) to pick them up at the airport.

MJG Dogs
11-15-06, 04:24
Surfer:

I agree with you 100% regarding your last post. Because of Aussie's Greg's attitude towards some, not all posters, and also based on secondhand information from a friend of mine that have stayed at both places, VIP is where I will stay in the future. It also sounds like my friend who stayed at the Mansion last year, was also a victim of a bait and switch, regarding his room, and was given a bill that was not equal to the original quoted rate. He in turn, has stayed at VIP three times and has never ever had a problem. It says something about Ethics dosen't it.

thank you Surfer for pointing this out.

Sailor2006
11-15-06, 04:29
You are correct I can't spell, I am horrible at it. My grammer, and spelling are gross. However I will say this, I am a college graduate, I have a be. S. Actually. I don't really know how I earned it, with such horrible english skills. But there you go. Colombia, colombia, colombia. See it doesnt feel right to me, I want to say columbia, that sounds right. Does this make me an IDOIT well. Yes it does. I rather be a fool and an ass, the a prick, or shit.

Carolinaman
11-16-06, 04:28
When I stayed at the Mansion I had to make a reservation and put a deposit down through Pay Pal. Lina told me which room I was in and confirmed the total price in my unit of currency. Therefore, I do not see how they could run a bait and switch. The only thing that makes sense, and I have seen it at other places, is that he was not keeping good records and therefore was having to juggle things. When I first met Lina he told me that "She keeps things straight because I am not good at that." As to taking money from taxi drivers I am always mystified how it would be possible to do that. I never saw staff run downstairs when I arrived by taxi and collect their kickback. In fact the fee I paid going out was the same as coming back. As to the airport taxi I was glad to see a smiling face who knew where I was going. I knew I was not going to be hijacked by the driver. Of course since I now know where I am going I might just make my own arrangements but Hector has a nice car and is pleasant to talk to.

Ticasonar
11-16-06, 08:05
Hector has a nice car and is pleasant to talk to.True.

Same price when Hector isn't available too. Hector's car is very nice compared to 99% of the taxis I rode in while there. I barely fit in the front seat of the car that picked me up be/see Hector was busy. The whole time I was at MM people kept talking about how nice he was, he spoke good english and how nice his car was. Meanwhile, I'm thinking these people must be on crack or are spending their life savings on this vacation. As my ride (supposed to be Hector) was small, old, less than typical taxi quality, didn't speak a lick (not even a parched lick) of english. But he was nice. Two days before I left, I finally rode in Hectors car and met him:.) I had just set someone up to take me back to the airport (got the number from a helpful ISG forum member) not 30 minutes before I actually met Hector, cause I was not leaving paradise in a bucket.

If ya stay at the Mansion, Hector is a good deal.

Kickboxer151
11-16-06, 08:45
What is very interesting about Aussie Greg posting here is the fact that he made a previous post to Kickboxer, The VIP, and the Medellin Executive that they should not be posting anywhere other than there own thread, as he was no longer posting anywhere else but his. THIS BEING A TOTAL HYPOCRITE. Scooby should be commended for doing the right thing here by disclosing what he knows. Again I do not know Greg, I have no differences with him, I wish nothing but the best, but right is right and wrong is wrong, and hypocrites are assholes.

I 100% AGREE.

WHEN I MENTIONED SOMETHING NOT POSITIVE ABOUT THE "aussie" THAT I FELT WAS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE OTHER PAYING GUESTS ON THIS BOARD IN THE "aussie" SECTION I WAS TOLD BY HIM (aussie) NOT TO POST IN "HIS" SECTION AND SAID HE WOULD "ONLY POST IN HIS OWN" THIS WAS ALSO REINERATED BY THE MODERATOR/OWNER OF THIS SITE. JACKSON CAN RUN THIS SITE AS HE CHOOSES AS IT IS HIS SITE AND I CAN APPRECIATE THAT. BUT YOU CALLED IT "HYPROCRITE"!!!!!!!

PS: I'M JUST A GUEST OF THE VIP AND I PROMOTE A PLACE, PERSON OR SERVICE THAT I FEEL IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE UNKNOWING TRAVELER OF MEDELLIN. ALTHOUGH NOT ONE PLACE IS 100% PERFECT I STAND BY "THE VIP CLUB" AS GIVING ME AND ALL MY FRIENDS THE 5 STAR SERVICE THAT WE APPRECIATE ESPECIALLY AFTER FLYING ACROSS THE WORLD TO GET THERE!

KB151

Kickboxer151
11-16-06, 09:04
As anywhere, hotel provided rides are convenient but you pay for that convenience. MM is no different. Of COURSE they make money on providing rides (you can bet they pay their "employees" much less than an independent taxi driver earns for an airport trip). And Scooby IS correct that the Mansion charges taxis for the privilege of meeting its guests. I agree there is nothing wrong with them doing that; ANYBODY who thinks Greg is running the Mansion for ANY reason other than profit (and free sex from Mansion girls) is a gullible fool (I got a bridge made out of Gold here to sell you!)

The fact that Greg is not satisfied to post just in the Mansion thread (while whining to Jackson about Albert/VIP posting in the Mansion thread) also speaks volumes about his lack of business ethics (he deleted my comment in Mansion thread about the $$ he still owes me from one of his bait & switch stunts which I posted about in response to his flame piece questioning my knowledge of Colombia.). I did NOT publically raise those issues until he flamed me for my comment decrying the spread of monger hotels to Cali (in the Cali folder).

I disagree with Tom's comment that all taxistas are dishonest opportunists (although speaking with them in Spanish, and treating them as friends rather than vassals, helps develop camraderie). I have met several who have become personal friends. I have left all my valuables with Fernando while I went into a casa on many occasions. We NEVER discuss what I pay him (and I am generous and ask others whom I refer to him to do the same). Ditto with Hector.

For newbies on a first time visit having the Mansion send THEIR driver to pick you up might make sense. Experienced travelers with good Spanish skills can do fine on their own, and even non Spanish speakers can just call Hector (who speaks good English) to pick them up at the airport.


Surfer: I agree with you on a your points.

1) "aussie" making money off the taxis. I have heard ROOMERS THAT HE HAS SAID THAT IF HE FINDS OUT THE TAXI DRIVERS THAT DROP OFF GUESTS TO THE COMPETITION (CLUB VIP) THAT HE WOULD NO LONGER LET THEM HAVE WORK AT THE MANSION! In my opinion that is BULL S&^T!! These are hard working guys that are just trying to make an honest living to support their families.

2) Fernando the Taxi driver is AWESOME!!!! EVERYTIME I'm in Medellin I have him as my driver as he is always up for the late night action and knows all the secret Casas! NEVER and I MEAN never have we discussed $$$ before our night out on the town. I just pay his entrance fee,liquor and treat him as a close friend. He is married and has a little biy that he keeps a picture of at all times in his wallet and car! I and my friends enjoy giving a guy like that extra cash for taking care of us. The funny thing is that he thinks hes excited to see us but we are 5 times more excited to see him as he is just a GREAT guy!
Anyone need his number feel free to PM me and I'll give it to you.

3) I agree with you on the "First Timers" that the "mansion" drivers might be good to have but I believe after the first / few visits to the "mansion" they will feel comfortable and contact their very own driver to pick them up from the Airport and take then where they wish to stay.

Again: Fernando is a GREAT guy!! He is more able to hangout with you at night and show you the ropes. Even though I know Medellin pretty well I still enjoy hanging out with a local and HONEST guy!

"Robinson" is another guy that is also good. He speaks great english and has just purchased a 2006 Chevy 4 door, leather interior etc.. VERY nice guy as well!!

Well, Guys I hope that helps, Surfer when are you heading back to TJ????

PS Contact me... I have "Garth" news for you!! Lol

KB151

Surfer
11-16-06, 09:27
KB: My friend/taxista Fernando is in Cali; I always use Hector in Medellin.

I am thoroughly disheartend with the Americanization of Colombia and am returning to my former haunts in Asia. I am not getting into any more of the VIP/MM discussion as I have no dog in that fight but I felt it was time to say my piece before moving on. I believe and trust Hector's word about the Mansion's taxi policies and I experienced Greg's bait and switch on price personally, and another good friend had the same stunt pulled on him.

Snowbird: I had an agreement with Roberto on the price of my room at the Penthouse (Greg was just preaparing the Mansion so he stayed down there). I never saw Greg until the day I left, and despite Roberto being there Greg insisted on raising the price of the room RETROACTIVELY. I paid it, but I told him I thought it was BS. Some time later he said he would give me a credit for the difference, but never stayed at the Mansion (and at this point never would).

I have nothing against Greg. I even brought him a gift of veggemite as we have a common friend who lived in Cali (Antifreeze) from when we both first came to Colombia.





KB: Will be in TJ Friday night through Monday. Saw Garth there last month & heturned me on to a great alley girl. PM me your cell number (mine is the same)

Cubanut
11-16-06, 09:36
Gents,

Ok, for the record can we get a clear understanding of:

1. How much for a regular airport pickup when arranged through MM, VIP, ME?

2. How much for regular airport drop off when arranged through MM, VIP, ME?

3. MM offered a pretty girl at the airport smiling with a sign with your name on it. I don't see it advertised anymore so does it still exist as an option and if so how much then is the total for Paisa/airport pickup through MM.

4. Does/will VIP's or ME offer a similar Paisa airport pickup? If so how much?

5. Whether comming or going to the airport is ther a "per person" fee or is a shared taxi/car ride cost the same (the passengers then split the cost) and how many mongers is the limit? (ME said his airport pick up is done with a van so this is an important difference as well).

NOTE: Please take notice that these inquiries DO NOT ask to break down any "cut" or ask why the amount is being asked. It is simply asking for the rates for the "Pre-arranged Airport service".



BTW- Scooby,

I hate to tell you this brother but Alvero did a "per person" charge on me and a guy I met at El Castillo when we shared a taxi ride to the airport a few months back. I was going to the airport alone and so were three other guys I had just met that morning (they had just flown back from Cali the previous night). Hector and Alvero came and Hector asked if it was ok that one of the guys rode with me in Alvero's car. I had never met Alvero (not that it mattered) and jumped in the back. The other guy jumped in front (it was his first time to Colombia I heard him tell Alvero at one point ). They talked and I snoozed a bit. When we got to the airport the other guy asked how much and Alvero said it was $30,000 cop each ($60,000). Now I had paid $45,000 cop before (alone and also with another person riding with me) and asked him why it was $60,000 now. He said he charges per person. I really didn't care to argue at 6:00am so I gave him $30,000 (which was less than I would have paid alone anyway) and told the other guy that he should just give him $20,000 cop more if he wanted to dispute the $60,000 ($50,00 total would have been fine I told him). He didn't care to do so and gave Alvero another $30,000 cop. I never mentioned this to Greg but I assume this happened to someone else (or others) who did tell Greg (who apparently interpreted this as an overcharging of MM guests).

Also- In all fairness, the Mansion did fail to pick me up once when I came with two friends. This however turned out to be the fault of another monger/friend of mine that was staying at the Mansion. He told Greg I had made other arrangements to get to the Mansion and he cancelled the pickup with Greg for us (but not his buddy who had arrived one hour before us on Avianca). So Greg picked up his buddy in their new car and we were there waiting when we came in. After waiting 25 minutes I said fuck this and just put us all in a "white taxi" and paid $50,000 cop for the ride down to the Mansion.

Lastly- I said this before about taxi drivers but I'll say it again. In Medellin, I trust Hector and Fernando. In Cali, I trust Oscar.


Cheers,


Cubanut


PS. The first time I came to Medellin, Greg had these three girls pictured below actually doing the airport pickups using there own cars. They were students doing the airport runs for extra money but the brunette got her car towed once while I was there and I later heard that the blonde girl on the right had crashed her car. They all had quit the MM by my 2nd trip and I only ran into them once at Mango's since then.

Aussie Greg
11-16-06, 14:35
Medellin Mansion costs for airport pickup-drop off´s

Airport pickup, 60,000 pesos or $30.00 USD
(airconditioned car, bigger than a normal taxi and if picking up two guests then the guests can half each, if we pick up three guests then the price is 70,000 pesos.

(because usually we are fully booked, we do use taxi´s but thats only because we are very busy with our car and our enployee´s car´s are already booked)

Airport drop off´s, 50,000 pesos or $25.00 USD
(again as the above, if two guests they can half each and three guests then the price is 60,000 pesos)

Normal taxi fare from the airport is 42,000 pesos, as to the airport, I dont know.

We also offer an ¨pretty young lady¨ airport pickup servcie, this costs is 80,000 pesos or $40.00 USD.

We only offer airport pickup service to our guests, not interested in non guests.

If you have any questions then please ask, regards to all.

Aussie G.

Kickboxer151
11-19-06, 00:29
SERIOUSLY guys use your common sense here.

WHY would a Hotel (Mansion) have P4P girls hanging out? Is this really a service to the guests? I ALWAYS ask myself a question in a business situation.... "What is the business´motivation"? POSSIBLY; Financial? Ego? Hmmmmmmmmm..

The Problem with P4P girls just hanging out kinda makes me personally feel like they are preying on us! TRUST me they are not there for a free hotdog or a sandwich!

In addition, IT IS AGAINST the law in Colombia to have a P4P house or promote sex for profit unless you have the proper documentation ie... permits. NOW IM NOT pointing fingers here but I would think any person that has an ounce of business sense would probably want to just stay clear of that business and practices!

THE VIP DOES NOT promote P4P girls JUST "hanging out" and try to take advantage of their guests since they are not in the sex business they are in the HOTEL business. Albert, myself and other SEASONED guests are sincerely doing our best to show you (the paying customer) a great time on the town and take you to every P4P, strip clubs etc SO YOU CAN MAKE YOUR OWN CHOICE!!!!!!! THEN BRING ANY GIRL OF YOUR LIKING BACK TO YOUR HOTEL ROOM. And not be pressured by a P4P girls that is being promoted by the Hotel (aussie gregs Mansion).

greg Mentioned in his thread that 2 P4P VIP girls came to his place. VIP´S RESPONSE TO THAT IS THEY DO NOT HAVE P4P GIRLS WORKING FOR THE VIP MEANING ALBERT AND THE VIP DOES NOT RECIEVE ONE CENT FROM WHATEVER P4P GIRL YOU AS THE GUEST HAVE MADE WITH YOUR GUEST! In addition he (greg) made a comment about the girls stating that is was not as busy as the mansion. GREAT!!!! THIS IS EXACTLY WHY I & MANY GUESTS LOVE THIS PLACE!!!!. IT IS SO LARGE AND SPREAD OUT THAT YOU CANT EVEN HEAR YOUR NEIGHBORING GUEST!!!

This is just my opinion.
Anyone care to share on this subject? Or am I just being too direct?

KB151

Dodger Bulldog
11-19-06, 02:15
THE VIP DOES NOT promote P4P girls JUST "hanging out" and try to take advantage of their guestsHow incredibly lame!

If I decide I'm interested in a girl who hangs out at the Mansion, how am I "being taken advantage of?" Geezus, did someone put a gun to my head or something?

Do you really think that guys who are on a mongering vacation will get upset if they see some hot, available chicas who happen to be nearby?

If you truly believe that, then you have lost all credibility...

I was very thankful that there are chicas who frequent the Mansion when all the MPs were closed due to a holiday.

The girl I called wasn't crazy about getting up early to service me before I had to leave for my plane, but because of her ties to the Mansion, she came over quickly and did a good job.

I like knowing that if I feel lazy one day and don't feel like going out on a search that there are plenty of hot chicas right there waiting for me. It's all about having more choices.

Here is the financial motivation for Greg: Many of us appreciate having another option, so the Mansion gets our business.

DB

Ricker
11-19-06, 03:03
SERIOUSLY guys use your common sense here.

WHY would a Hotel (Mansion) have P4P girls hanging out? Is this really a service to the guests? I ALWAYS ask myself a question in a business situation.... "What is the business´motivation"? POSSIBLY; Financial? Ego? Hmmmmmmmmm..

The Problem with P4P girls just hanging out kinda makes me personally feel like they are preying on us! TRUST me they are not there for a free hotdog or a sandwich!

In addition, IT IS AGAINST the law in Colombia to have a P4P house or promote sex for profit unless you have the proper documentation ie... permits. NOW IM NOT pointing fingers here but I would think any person that has an ounce of business sense would probably want to just stay clear of that business and practices!

THE VIP DOES NOT promote P4P girls JUST "hanging out" and try to take advantage of their guests since they are not in the sex business they are in the HOTEL business. Albert, myself and other SEASONED guests are sincerely doing our best to show you (the paying customer) a great time on the town and take you to every P4P, strip clubs etc SO YOU CAN MAKE YOUR OWN CHOICE!!!!!!! THEN BRING ANY GIRL OF YOUR LIKING BACK TO YOUR HOTEL ROOM. And not be pressured by a P4P girls that is being promoted by the Hotel (aussie gregs Mansion).

greg Mentioned in his thread that 2 P4P VIP girls came to his place. VIP´S RESPONSE TO THAT IS THEY DO NOT HAVE P4P GIRLS WORKING FOR THE VIP MEANING ALBERT AND THE VIP DOES NOT RECIEVE ONE CENT FROM WHATEVER P4P GIRL YOU AS THE GUEST HAVE MADE WITH YOUR GUEST! In addition he (greg) made a comment about the girls stating that is was not as busy as the mansion. GREAT!!!! THIS IS EXACTLY WHY I & MANY GUESTS LOVE THIS PLACE!!!!. IT IS SO LARGE AND SPREAD OUT THAT YOU CANT EVEN HEAR YOUR NEIGHBORING GUEST!!!

KB151

I definitely have to agree with the Dodger on this.

Though I have never used the services of a "Mansion chica" ....

Do you think maybe guys coming to Medellin / the Mansion for an "adult vacation" enjoy having these chicas around and available?
Dumb question ... of course they do.
Price is between the chica and the guy and his negotiating / shmoozing skills.

Hard to believe management at a Hotel like the VIP really enjoy having low occupancy.

Guys visit Medellin for the great climate, the natural beauty of the countryside, the food and mostly for the CHICAS CHICAS CHICAS.

That's why guys stay at the Mansion ... CHICAS CHICAS CHICAS!

Like I said, I don't use these Mansion chicas but I have to say, Aussie Greg is smart for having them around. The Mansion stays full ... and it certainly isn't due to Aussie's good looks :)
CHICAS CHICAS CHICAS.


Obvious.

Monger#77
11-19-06, 03:21
Is it true that the women outnumber the men 5 to 1 in Colombia?

Lima Busy
11-19-06, 03:33
Is it true that the women outnumber the men 5 to 1 in Colombia?
That is true in the over 70 populaton group. In the general population I believe it 46.7/46.9 withe the difference being "undetermined"!

Dodger Bulldog
11-19-06, 03:43
That's why guys stay at the Mansion ... CHICAS CHICAS CHICAS!... Obvious.Ricker gets right to the heart of the matter.

There might some strong sales points to be made for the VIP. But if they are trying to attract mongers to the place, this is definitely NOT one of them.

We'll never know how many reservations KB just cost the place with his last post!

DB

Scooby1
11-19-06, 05:36
What guy doesn't like to have beautiful women hanging around. When I stayed at the Mansion there was never any pressure on anyone to take a girl up to the room.The girls were very well behaved and never pushed anyone to take them upstairs. If Greg gets a free lay every now and then just because he allows the girls to hang out I say more power to him.

Scooby
Happy Mongering

John
11-19-06, 08:17
Medellin:

Medellin Mansion - Aussie Greg is an excellent host. I just didn't stay enough time in Medellin to see all mansion girls. Mansion girls in my opinion provided the best services and they were the only ones doing BBBJ without too much fuss.

Loutron - They have the best looking girls (cost 160k cop for one hour session at Loutron or you can take the girl out for 185k for 1 hour or 260k for two hour session.

Sandiego club show - none of the girls in my opinion were any higher than 5.

Face Dos - Some girls here are 8.5 or 9, but the attitude of the girls suck ASS. No DFK, No BBBJ. (This is the only decent club open at night in Medellin).

In short, Medellin have the best looking girls per capita ratio in the world. I wish the attitude of the girls in Medellin was as good as Brazilian girls. I have never seen so many beautiful girls in one city. I mean every other girl was no less than a 7 in my scale.


As per, if some one is choosing between going to Rio De Janeiro or Medellin, I would recommend them to go to Rio.

Rio has many beautiful girls and the attitude of the girls is way better than girls from Medellin. Rio has sex action 20 hours in a 24 hour day. Where as Medellin is limited to only Face Dos at night.

I was even told by John of Medellin mansion that no girl can be arranged privately by him after 10 at night. That was the only disappointment i had at the Mansion. I mean if i am ready to pay top dollar, I want the girls on my back and call and that was completely possible in Rio De Janeiro (day or night).

Sean EZ
11-19-06, 09:13
Medellin:
In short, Medellin have the best looking girls per capita ratio in the world. I wish the attitude of the girls in Medellin was as good as Brazilian girls..

John, good report, thank you. As far as looks per capita, and speaking of Brazil, have you been to Florianopolis?

John
11-19-06, 13:00
John, good report, thank you. As far as looks per capita, and speaking of Brazil, have you been to Florianopolis?

I have not been to Florianapolis, but with the comment you have put in i sure would go there in my next trip to Brazil. Now even if what you say is true that there are more beautiful girls per capita in Florianapolis, I really have my doubts about the city of Florianapolis being a population of 4 million. My statement may be wrong about Medellin having per capita the most beautiful girls in the world, but in general terms if you consider the population of Medellin i would say that Medellin has many many chicas who are above 7 in my scale.

John

Brugal8
11-19-06, 14:38
Dear John,

The brazilians say that the most beautiful girls in brazil are from the south, especifically from the state of rio grande do sul and let me tell you that is soooooo true.

The state of santa catarina where florianapolis is located is also in the south but rio grande do sul has some unbelievable women.

The main city is porto alegre but all the other cities have great mongering action with beatiful pros and you also have beatiful non pros.

That's all.

John
11-19-06, 17:45
Dang, i just finished my trip to colombia. I will have to wait atleast another 4 months before i can even think about another trip to Brazil, but surely i will visit south Brazil this time around.

Thank you very much for the information.

John.

Ticasonar
11-19-06, 22:35
I was even told by John of Medellin mansion that no girl can be arranged privately by him after 10 at night. That was the only disappointment i had at the Mansion. I mean if i am ready to pay top dollar, I want the girls on my back and call and that was completely possible in Rio De Janeiro (day or night). Good report John.

John at the Mansion isn't a pimp(tho he is a playa), therefore he can't command women. I know he worked his butt off for me one night phoning chicas in my phone and from his contacts, but it was late on a Sunday. I was disappointed, but it was my fault for waiting so late, not his. And I say that b/c while I was there, all the people in the know repeated the mantra, "if you want a chica, you better call early". Then he took to me to a lil place on a hill that was open. She ended up being the closest to a GFE. Which was luck. Not trying to give John credit for that :-)

*side note. I'm not such a tard that I didn't schedule a chica on Sunday evening after the BBQ, but when the one I scheduled kept delaying the time she could show up, I didn't move on.

Sailor2006
11-20-06, 02:53
I kind of enjoyed the VIP club's low volume, style and its quite, that doesnt mean they don't have many guests they at this present time only offer 4 rooms, and three master bedrooms. With more space per guest then the mansions two hotels offer.

I also know for a fact that Albert doesnt want to be considered a "pimp", where as greg and his establishment are close to the edge.

I gree with KB on the fact that having working girls just hang out can create problems, 1. While I was there (mansion) they would begg for taxi money home if they didn't get any action. (I simply say no) 2. They tend to gather and form unions becuase they know that most men are weak minded and will ultimately pay their price. On this every one can agree is bad, and it does/is occuring at the mansion. 3. Possible outcome to this is the mansion turning into another HOTEL DEL RAY, I don't think I need to say any more on this.

The only benfit of having girls hang around is pussy on demand, well quality and price come into play as well. So I don't see a major benfit. If they were dirt cheap, and so/so looking it wouldnt matter, I would have poped 2 or 3 a day out of convienece. However I will say this to anyone, go out an explore the city, try and meet women, try and learn some spanish before you go, enjoy the place, don't just sit in the mansion and wait for some overpriced girl to fuck you. That one of the things I wish I had more time to do in medellion. I see the real pro guys going around meeting women getting it for dirt cheap, then for free. LUCKY FUCKS

Girls, Chicas, Girls, Chicas, Girls, Chicas, Girls, Chicas. Ok yeah we come to medellion for girls, but I think we can agree we come to medellion for CHEAP HOT GIRLS, word being CHEAP, I also like HOT. But affordable. 100 bucks may be cheap to some, and they may be down in colombia (columbia) for a few days so whats the difference if I pay alittle more. Colombia isn't a country where you just pay alittle more, prostitution isn't a thing where you can just pay alittle more and think it doesnt have any effect. Prices will rise, so becarefull, listen to the advise posted about prices and pay normal rates.

In the defense of VIP, I think Albert and the new owner are the ones who represent VIP-Club, and they speak for the services offered. They are trying to offer good service, and they have a great place, this is better for every body on this board becuase it will create some balance and lower prices, rooms prices are on a steady rise, chica prices are on the rise, dollar is getting weaker, anybody see a bad trend here?

This is a bullshit session so my opinions are mine alone.

John
11-20-06, 05:39
Good report John.

John at the Mansion isn't a pimp(tho he is a playa), therefore he can't command women. I know he worked his butt off for me one night phoning chicas in my phone and from his contacts, but it was late on a Sunday. I was disappointed, but it was my fault for waiting so late, not his. And I say that b/c while I was there, all the people in the know repeated the mantra, "if you want a chica, you better call early". Then he took to me to a lil place on a hill that was open. She ended up being the closest to a GFE. Which was luck. Not trying to give John credit for that :-)

*side note. I'm not such a tard that I didn't schedule a chica on Sunday evening after the BBQ, but when the one I scheduled kept delaying the time she could show up, I didn't move on.

Ticasonar,

I was not disappointed in John of Medellin. The only point I was making is that Chicas are hard to get after certain hours in Medellin. At night time on a weekday the only option remains is Face Dos, and that was the only point I was trying to get across.

Regards,

John

Cubanut
11-20-06, 06:29
At night time on a weekday the only option remains is Face Dos, and that was the only point I was trying to get across.

Regards,

John

John,

You really don't know Medellin if you think Fase II is the only night time action.

Read through the posts a bit and you will find your statement to be very far from being accurate.

As far as Mansion girls are concerned, I will state again that I have not really used them. I was just too busy with other venues for chicas.

I am willing to try the Mansion girls this week but NOT at the ridiculous prices recently being quoted. I will be polite and negotiate (in my own way). If there is agreement then we do the deed. If not then we will still part with a smile. No more than $80,000 to $100,000 cop for a minimum hours service will be offered.

The Mansion/Castillo will be full this week so the girls should have no reason to say yes to me at the lower price if others there are offering more. There are MANY venues for chicas besides the Mansion.

Also, I believe I have stated this before that once you leave the Poblado area, the number of HOT (one after another) looking Paisas, deminishes significantly. Not to say that the girls are not good looking but they are quite normal looking than the upper class Poblado area girls.

As far as VIP vs the Mansion/Castillo, I don't know why for some it is so hard to simply state that BOTH places have their place in Medellin. Both places have their good qualities and defects (most if all that have been stated over and over).


Cheers,


Cubanut

John
11-20-06, 08:25
John,

You really don't know Medellin if you think Fase II is the only night time action.

Read through the posts a bit and you will find your statement to be very far from being accurate.

As far as Mansion girls are concerned, I will state again that I have not really used them. I was just too busy with other venues for chicas.

I am willing to try the Mansion girls this week but NOT at the ridiculous prices recently being quoted. I will be polite and negotiate (in my own way). If there is agreement then we do the deed. If not then we will still part with a smile. No more than $80,000 to $100,000 cop for a minimum hours service will be offered.

The Mansion/Castillo will be full this week so the girls should have no reason to say yes to me at the lower price if others there are offering more. There are MANY venues for chicas besides the Mansion.

Also, I believe I have stated this before that once you leave the Poblado area, the number of HOT (one after another) looking Paisas, deminishes significantly. Not to say that the girls are not good looking but they are quite normal looking than the upper class Poblado area girls.

As far as VIP vs the Mansion/Castillo, I don't know why for some it is so hard to simply state that BOTH places have their place in Medellin. Both places have their good qualities and defects (most if all that have been stated over and over).


Cheers,


Cubanut

Cuba,

You can have your opinion but for decent looking girls Face Dos was the only option I found after 11:00 pm. Let me know what other options are you talking about. If your answer includes Sandiego Club Show then my friend your diction of "Decent looking girls" is completely different than mine.

If there were other options in Medellin please inform me of them, don't just say that i need to read the board because, if I missed some other good locations then you are saying that staff at Medellin Mansion didn't do there Job right and didn't inform me of all my choices.

One of the following three has to be true:

1. You know more about Medellin action than the staff at the Mansion.

2. The Mansion staff didn't give me all my options for top quality girls.

3. Your opinion of top quality girls is way different than mine.

I know this much that i was willing and able to pay top dollar for the top notch looking girls who can provide good service and had no success in finding them after 11:00 pm.

Regards,

John.

Cubanut
11-20-06, 11:01
Cubanut,

You can have your opinion but for decent looking girls Face Dos was the only option I found after 11:00 pm. Let me know what other options are you talking about. If I missed some other good locations then you are saying that staff at Medellin Mansion didn't do there Job right and didn't inform me of all my choices.

I know this much that I was willing and able to pay top dollar for the top notch looking girls who can provide good service and had no success in finding them after 11:00 pm.

Regards,

John.


John,

I didn't know that it was the Mansion's "job" to tell you where to find a girl after 11pm.

ANYWAY:

I've said this before to others: Call taxi driver Fernando 310-826-7678 and tell him to pick you up and take you to the following places (Hint: if you go in this order you may never get past the first two).


Lejano Oriente: (Carrera 41, #18D-55) This will be the most expensive place and it is not far at all from the Mansion. Drinks are a bit pricey as well but hey, you are the big spender, right? You'll fit right in.

Apoteosis Club (Cll 44 No 74-70) See my review about 15 pages back. It's a strip bar. Nice and roomy and also if you go late, they have a glass pane shower at the top of the stairs on a platform for girls to perform a strip/shower routine.

Torre Show: (La 80 con San Juan #43-42)

Taberna Luna Lunera (Avenida 33, No. 63B - 201/215)

Grill Occidental (Carrerra 52 No. 53 - 158) A girl almost devoured my lips here. Extreme passion if they like you.

Casa Blanca: (Cra. 50A No. 57-38) Ok, I will say this that there sometimes are some hot chics but the problem is there are usually more Colombian males there as well. The problem is they occupy too much the girls time just bullshitting with them. Also you definately need to know Spanish.

Nemesis Club: (Cll 44 78 -90)

Pegasos Club: (Clle 44 No 80-15)

http://www.e-extasis.com/modelosmedellin.htm This is a decently priced escort service with very acceptable girls. I've had a few friends give it good reviews. You do have to give them two hours notice. They are available though at night.

http://www.lafeemme.com/medellin.htm Another escort service BUT they take their last call outs at 10pm. So this would NOT have been an option for you before (you said after 11pm) but you should try them out next time if you are in need of a HOT Paisa. Yes, some hot women indeed.

Ok, now the one place that is dear to my heart is of course Mayorista. Going there at 11pm would have been perfect. Go much later and the best girls get taken up and used up. DO NOT PAY TOP DOLLAR HERE AND DO NOT BRING THE GIRL BACK TO THE MANSION. This will keep the gringo price the same as the Colombian price. Showing them a high end place will cause them to ask for more money. As an alternative. There are two VERY nice hotels around the corner (Manarcha & the one right next to it but I forget the name). Again, you have to know Spanish because the girls are not professionals.


PLUS Gents..... I know a Secret, I know a Secret.

I'll be reporting on a NEW place in just a few days for hot sexy mongering action in Medellin. Sorry I can't disclose anything yet but I want to verify things for myself rather than do one of those "I heard about it" type reports.


Cheers,


Cubanut

Brugal8
11-20-06, 14:56
Cubanut,

I'm a big fan of yours because you always deliver good info and definitely good pics.

Question:

Who is the girl on th pictue and how can we get in touch with her?

John
11-20-06, 15:45
John,

I didn't know that it was the Mansion's "job" to tell you where to find a girl after 11pm.

ANYWAY:

I've said this before to others: Call taxi driver Fernando 310-826-7678 and tell him to pick you up and take you to the following places (Hint: if you go in this order you may never get past the first two).


Lejano Oriente: (Carrera 41, #18D-55) This will be the most expensive place and it is not far at all from the Mansion. Drinks are a bit pricey as well but hey, you are the big spender, right? You'll fit right in.

Apoteosis Club (Cll 44 No 74-70) See my review about 15 pages back. It's a strip bar. Nice and roomy and also if you go late, they have a glass pane shower at the top of the stairs on a platform for girls to perform a strip/shower routine.

Torre Show: (La 80 con San Juan #43-42)

Taberna Luna Lunera (Avenida 33, No. 63B - 201/215)

Grill Occidental (Carrerra 52 No. 53 - 158) A girl almost devoured my lips here. Extreme passion if they like you.

Casa Blanca: (Cra. 50A No. 57-38) Ok, I will say this that there sometimes are some hot chics but the problem is there are usually more Colombian males there as well. The problem is they occupy too much the girls time just bullshitting with them. Also you definately need to know Spanish.

Nemesis Club: (Cll 44 78 -90)

Pegasos Club: (Clle 44 No 80-15)

http://www.e-extasis.com/modelosmedellin.htm This is a decently priced escort service with very acceptable girls. I've had a few friends give it good reviews. You do have to give them two hours notice. They are available though at night.

http://www.lafeemme.com/medellin.htm Another escort service BUT they take their last call outs at 10pm. So this would NOT have been an option for you before (you said after 11pm) but you should try them out next time if you are in need of a HOT Paisa. Yes, some hot women indeed.

Ok, now the one place that is dear to my heart is of course Mayorista. Going there at 11pm would have been perfect. Go much later and the best girls get taken up and used up. DO NOT PAY TOP DOLLAR HERE AND DO NOT BRING THE GIRL BACK TO THE MANSION. This will keep the gringo price the same as the Colombian price. Showing them a high end place will cause them to ask for more money. As an alternative. There are two VERY nice hotels around the corner (Manarcha & the one right next to it but I forget the name). Again, you have to know Spanish because the girls are not professionals.


PLUS Gents..... I know a Secret, I know a Secret.

I'll be reporting on a NEW place in just a few days for hot sexy mongering action in Medellin. Sorry I can't disclose anything yet but I want to verify things for myself rather than do one of those "I heard about it" type reports.


Cheers,


Cubanut


Thanks for the information. I will check them out next time.

Regards,

John.

BeersTerry
11-20-06, 16:31
As others have said, Lejano Oriental can be pricey.
I have used the two sites posted and got lucky. Some friends have not been as the women did not look anything like the photos. It just costs you 15,000 pesos to send them home.