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Sorry to report , no pics available today, I will see her tomorrow at the Rolling Stones concert, we have a table at the same restaurant, just by chance, not planned. Resrved seating accross the street from the stage. No view of stage, but great price , table for 4, two large dinners, and a bottle of vino, R$200. About 100 meters from the stage. I will ask her if she would agree. I have to admit, I am not much for pictures, just seems awkward to me to ask, but she would be different. if she is game, I will get a few. I am going to have my friend give her a spin and see what he thinks. And, my portuguese sucks, so I have to make sure she understands WHY I need these pics. Lets wait and see what happens.
I did go to terma areoporto for the first time tonight, something different for me. Nome: Thais - 5'3" tall Charlize Theron, she looked alot like her in the face. Really pretty. She said she weighed 50 kg, and I believe her, she is small. A+++, damage R$288, 40 min, couple of beers in there, time now, 2:50 am - need sleep.... I would say overall aeroporto was disappointing. Except for her, and my friend found someone he liked as well. I do not see many posts about this place. The inside is nice, but it is near the top end in price. Like anywhere, one is all you need. so from that standpoint it was good, she was really nice. And I would go back, just to see her. I asked her about private visits, she said 2 hours $350, that is crazy, I just nodded yes about that, but it is way to much, and she knows it as well.
IBZ
How about some pics?
Exec Talent
02-18-06, 10:32
If we think about hookers only, then all above is meaningless because they just take the dude who can pay.
I have to laugh out loud every time I see misinformation like this. Comments like this one are right up there with "these women" never have orgasms. (BTW, under special circumstances which I won't go into, a girl I was with faked one the other day and it was pretty funny. I feel sorry for guys who can't tell the difference.)
"These women" can chose who they want to be with and how much they charge. If you think they go with anyone and charge the same to everyone, then you are even more clueless than I thought.
One thing that is true is if you treat women well, you will have a much better experience. You will get a reputation and you will pay less money. "These women" talk a lot among themselves.
I am still shaking my head and laughing. Some of you guys are the reason they invented lube. You are so anxious to call women "*****s" that you forget they are women.
Please lets get back to talking about banging Brazilian "women" (how u like that ET,lol). This racial stuff and what kind of guy garotas like talk is getting old. Everyone has there own opinion about issues, so lets leave it at that and act civilized for christ sakes.Damn, everytime I go to Rio, all the fellow mongers are cool and friendly, but soon as we get home and log on to this site and the others, all the niceties and politeness goes out the window.Why is that?
Gente, Vamos falar de bundas, ta!
Papa Wahala
02-18-06, 15:05
it never ceases to amaze me the depths of insecurity to be found among members of the human race who subscribe and hide behind racial stereotypes, generalizations and misinformed notions to mask their personal insecurities and feelings of inadequacy.
i recall my grandfather who helped liberate france in wwii telling me how white gis would tell french women that black american gis had tails and would turn into monkeys at midnite. well gents, from the stories grandpa had to tell about his days of mongering, this effort at misinformation not only did not work but actually backfired as it peeked the interest of a lot of french gals.
i fast forward to the present and can only conclude that the race-based crap being passed off as analyatical discussion is more a reflection of the problems of race in america and less of an informative contribution for those of us bound for brazil. perhaps this discussion should be moved to the us forum? just a thought.
based on the number of subscribers to this forum, it is clear that there are a number of white guys who are getting plenty of brazilian pussy of all stripes. it is equally clear to to me that blacks guys are doing equally well and i have appreciated the photos that have been posted to affirm each of my conclusions.
each time a discussion on race issues breaks out on this forum, i take a step back to insure that i don't bring my racial biases and hangups to the discussion. no one here is going to change my mind on how i feel or think about race relations between black or white folks in america, nor influence who or how i pursue pussy in brazil wether it be black, brown, white, etc.
what i do hope to gain from this forum is more thoughtful and positive insight about the "brazilian experience."
its 2006 and the maxim that the more things change, the more they remain the same remains true. grandpa would get a good laugh reading some of the race-based crap that has been posted (god rest his soul).
lets give the race debate a rest. no one here is going to win my heart or mind but you will certainly win my respect and admiration by sharing substantive, factual and helpful info on mongering in rio. hell, posting more pics of brazilian tits, ass and pussy would be even better!! :o)
peace to you. la lutta continua!
I haven't been on the forum since my last trip.
Great trip, I all the North East and it was great.
I will be heading back for one more trip in mid March after Carnival.
I did meet a great woman who I have been in touch with and will be visiting and staying at her place.
The exchange rate is now $R2.14 and I predicted $R2.11. U have to admit I was close.
Guys enjoy your trips,
I am still shaking my head and laughing. Some of you guys are the reason they invented lube. You are so anxious to call women "*****s" that you forget they are women.
Well a hooker is a hooker is a hooker.
With them MONEY talks. Doesn't matter what you look like or what so ever.
You can call it misinformation if you want, but that is a fact.
Time 2:00pm , Sat. i was out late, So I am up late.
On the third floor I see two mulhers together on the balcony and one guy, somebody was partying like a real rockstar lastnight!!!!! DOUBLE, way to go. I am sure you had fun, as it is mid afternoon, and they are still there.
IBZ
Well a hooker is a hooker is a hooker.
With them MONEY talks. Doesn't matter what you look like or what so ever.
You can call it misinformation if you want, but that is a fact.
I agree 100% with you Perkele, I seen guys get so caught up into thinking that just because a female laughs at their silly jokes inside of a termas for a few hours I guess that gives a guy the rights to start calling her MY GIRL this and MY GIRL that I find that to be so funny.
Hell, she can be anyone girl for the hour or for the night if the trick (and its a reason why they use that term trick) tricking a lonely guy into thinking just because he paid for a few session she can trick him into thinking she is his girl lol.
The bottom line is some guys hate to think that their girl is really a "ho" !! and try to earse the fact that she takes $$$ for her time or she BEEN with a few hundreds of guys that thought of her as "MY GIRL" in the past (month/year) lol.
I mean really if a guy really wants to have a female that he can call "MY GIRL" try not looking for her inside a "ho" house and Brazil they call them (termas) the bottom line is NO ONE can keep going to the termas if they disrespect the girls that work there BUT don't by any means (and I am talking to the guys like Perkele that realize) be it calling her a hooker or "ho" or fool yourself into thinking calling her MY GIRL she takes $$ for sex.
I don't see anything wrong with it BUT, if a guy choose to call someone that WEBSTER'S define a "ho" that takes $$ for sex why do some guys thinks thats is disrespectful BUT yet don't see anything wrong by asking that same girl to do some and perform some of the most insane sex acts ?? (of course they are willing to pay for her time) lol
So I don't get bent out of shape by a name or term it is what it is NOW if you meet a girl working at a bank or downtown office maybe a person would have cause for not wanted is girl being called a "ho" BUT if she goes to work each day to for whatever reasons she do what she does be it to take care of her family or buy her some bling bling she is what she is.
Its just always make me laughs when I hear guys go on and on about a saying MY GIRL this MY GIRL that and get mad when terms as calling a girl a "ho" is used BUT, they don't see anything wrong with asking her does she takes it in her ass etc. and will she allow him to cum inside of her mouth without a rubber etc. and then go on line and websites rating her skills or posting her pictures lol BUT then call for guys to respect her BY NOT CALLING THEIR GIRL A "ho" LOL.
Yes, I do agree with you Perkele yeah she is a hooker/ho or in some cases I guess after paying a big terma billed I guess she can be called MY GIRL lol
Really, we all are grown ups here I don't have a problem doing what I do when I am in Rio or any other place overseas (paying for sex) and most girls could gave a rat behind what I or someone calls her as long as I or they pay her for her time and agreed upon time of a session.
And, yes I have and do see many girls over again and I have repeated sessions with many of the same termas girls going on many years either at the terma were they work or back at my place later that night with that said, so JUST BECAUSE I OR OTHERS USED THE WORD HO, doesn't means I or we disrepect the girls, if I did ( I only can speak for myself) she and they wouldn't keep on seeing me and sending me e-mailings over and over again for the past years.
Kid Cisco
KC,
Some suckers have their head so far in these *****s asses that they will never see the light,LOL. I recently got a PM admonishing me for using those types of words to decribe these ladies of the night (daytime too,lol). These dudes make me laugh too. Little do they know that the jokes on them and that these "ladies" are playing them for as much money as they can get, even if they gotta give freebies here and there to make you feel like you are really special. Well some of us can see through the fascade and are just calling a spade a spade (***** a *****,lol).
Sorry about that guys, now back to bundas.Can anyone give a current state of events in Rio right now (1 week before Carnaval)? Last month was kinda weak. Lots of girls complaining about the lack of customers at help, MP, and the termas. Have things improved lately especially with the weak dollar? I have a fealing that at the current rate the dollar is going and the rising prices, things will be changing in the Rio scene? Any thoughts?
Exec Talent
02-19-06, 11:19
Kid Crisco®,
You are a loser on another forum, you are a loser here.
Unlike you, some of us date fashion models as well as bright and accomplished women. We are a success with women because we know how to treat them. We NEVER treat women like *****s. We don't have several ex-wives and our former girlfriends actually still like us. You see, we don't have any women are bitches stories.
My sources tell me that you thought a woman actually loved you when all she wanted from you was money. Sorry that happened. However, just because that happened to you doesn't mean it happens to everyone. I know many men who have wonderful relationships with Brazilian women.
I see a lot of nice guys (with the emphasis on nice) come here with the full intention of seeing how many women they can be with. Then, they meet one they really like and spend all of their time with her. I saw a girl at a termas spend all night just hanging out with a guy she just met (getting no money) then go home with him when the termas closed. These women make choices based upon feelings and not money all the time.
It must really [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) you off that some guy, coming to Rio for the first time, is actually going to listen to me and treat women well. And, because of that, he will spend time with a girl who actually enjoys being with him, not just because he is paying her, but because of the way he is treating her.
The guys who listen to me pay less and have better experiences. They do not overpay, however, I do often hear, “I gave her an extra R$50 because I had such a good time.” Some of you may think he is a sucker. But, the guys I usually hang with are not the guys who rush to 4x4 and take a girl before 5:00 so they don’t have to pay an entrance fee.
Crisco, maybe you should start a thread titled “Advice for Losers.” There you can call women *****s all you want, because winners know that is what losers do.
Boys.
What is going on? Is there a be nice to a hooker week in Rio?
Ok, I try to explain one more time.
Women who fuck for money do not give a flying fuck about what you look like. Only thing they care is the content of your wallet.
ET, you mentioned that some newbie got a girl from therma free. When you're with a ho its NEVER free. They are GOOD in what they do, they give you some free and then they take you to a nice Sunday walk in RIO fuckin' SUL. They know they get paid. Every now and then their game doesn't work, but most of the time yes. Don't come to me with that kind of BS that they aren't thinking of making money.
Actually all started from the discussion in which someone pulled an ancient message that said that white guys are getting more action in Brasil. I say that in generally its true, but a number of HO's can't be the measure. Tell the number of non-working girls you've dated in last year or so and there you go.
On the otherhand this kind of discussion is irrelevant in this forum, because we all are supposed to share the info on P4P.
My 2 cents is that brasilian hookers are among best actresses in the world. Trust nothing they say and have fun. DO NOT FALL IN LOVE.
Exec Talent
02-19-06, 12:56
Perkele,
My comments are meant for those whose company women might actually enjoy. You obviously can ignore them.
Fall in love. God forbid anyone actually does that. Hell, they might even be happy spending their life with a woman. That would really [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) you woman haters off, now wouldn't it?
I believe what you say, only because I have experienced it myself on many occasions. On my first trip to Rio in Dec. 2004, I met a gal in (or ho, lol) Monte Carlo, we spoke for couple of hrs., she came to my apartment after midnight, once she left work straight to my apartment. Had a great night, did not even hint about cash. We still email each other every so often. Same thing happenned in June, but at Luomo's. I spent hrs. in there with a gal from Salvador, conversing, and watching the soccer match between Brazil and Argentina(what a blast) while she sat on my lap, then after work, I waited for her at my place, spent the entire night and day, not a penny (or a trip to Rio Sul either).
This past November, samething, different chick, in fact she payed for my lunch the next day. We hung out for a few days together. No $. Yes, I did take her to dinner and luch, but thats it. Have kept in touch, and no weasel type emails asking for $ cause an illness in the family. Plus a couple of other similar cases. Why does this occur? Because there is chemistry, attraction, and I TREAT THEM LIKE A LADY. I am no fool, I do not fall in love, and I cut them off as soon as I feel any vibes about a scam.
When these situations arise with those kind of girls, its not often, because the reality is they work for a living, there not looking for a boyfriend, or the chemistry is not there, are they don't find you attractive, and many other reasons. But why would I care, I do not take it personally, I am just paying for a service, and move on.
Its difficult, but one must always think with the up stairs head whether dealing with a working gal who is a hard core pro, and others that work, but also have some sense of honesty and fairness. Yes, they are all working the money, but some of them, or some of the times, they do like and enjoy very much a mans company, after all, they are human beings with feelings and needs too. Again, we are not talking about all of them, just some of them (Minority), so don't be a fool, be aware, and alert. Quite a few are true pricks (liars, scammers, and actresses).
I have been to several other countries, and the same applies to all of them, some more than others. Last thought, DONT FALL IN LOVE! WITH ANY OF THEM! Let's all get along and have fun without getting ourselves hurt or anyone else for that matter. Happy Hunting!
ET
A hooker is not a NORMAL woman. Tust me, and few thousand other experienced guys on this.
Well its your loss if you keep thinking that a ho is a normal woman. I don't undersatand how you got an idea that I'd hate women, actually I don't and I respect even ho's.I just won't trust them.
The more you learn the more you realize you don't know. What is a NORMAL women? Are you speaking of all the women guys marry and trust, only to be taken to the bank in the end and left holding their dicks? I have been to Rio many times and have trusted women who are prostitutes, hooker, hoes, ***** or however you chose to refer to them. Had I not done so there are many things I would not have experienced. Was it blind trust? No, there was something I sensed about the women, which allowed me to put my life in her hands and get on the subway, bus or in a cab and travel to a place I had never been and knew nothing about. I treat them with the same respect, I treat ANY woman. Do I believe everything they say? No, but as ET expressed, there is no need to treat or view them as something less than human.
Also keep in mind, the experiences I am referring too, were with women who were not charging me for their company, although I am keenly aware they could have been somewhere else laying on their backs making money, so the theory that it's all about money is out the door. Simply put the Rio experience is unique to the individual.
As Lorenzo stated "For sheer variety of the women available, their physical attractiveness, their enthusiasm and vibrant personalities, and their sexual skills, Brazilian women just can't be matched". If you treat them well they will in my experience respond in kind.
Here is a challenge for ALL. Go to the photo section of other countries. Here is what you will notice without a doubt. Many women are not smiling, if you can see their face at all. In the Brazilian photo section you will notice the women smiling. They actually like men! Imagine THAT!
My 2 cents is that brasilian hookers are among best actresses in the world. Trust nothing they say and have fun. DO NOT FALL IN LOVE.
In our world there are ONLY men & women, since animals don't count. Well at least in my world. Perkele, I agree to a point. The same could be said about some members of this forum. And the Oscar goes to...
RonnyRon
Wandering Fool
02-19-06, 18:27
i think there's a middle ground here. i always treat the girls well, i love the fact that they can create a wonderful illusion for an evening. on my first visit to rio i almost immediately fell for one termas girl and spent a good deal of time (too much time) with her, but she was the archetype of the hot blond that had teased me for so many years in the us at the strip clubs and on mtv and now she was mine damn it! i would marvel at her perfect body as she walked into the bathroom naked in the morning, the sunlight dancing off her smooth skin and perfectly round bunda. i ignored the fact that she was doing, by her own count, at least 5 guys a day. she was cute but very much the quintissential "take the gringo for what you can" type and i was as green as they came. luckily, i didn't spend any stupid money on her, and after a week i realized that this was all just an illusion -began to figure things out and get over the "bunda flash" of my first visit.
on my next two visits i would secretely hold on to the dream of meeting the perfect sex companion who might be my super hot brazilian girlfriend too. the hooker with the heart of gold. while on the outside i would tell people not to ever fall for a hooker (i mongered extensively in the us and tijuana prior to rio so i know the deal) i was really a hypocrite, barely admitting to myself that on each trip i was auditioning girls for the role of my future hot brazilian girlfriend. on my next two trips i had a great time, did tons of girls, wondering with each if she might be the one. i would develop crushes on certain ones and stay in touch, repeat, balance them against others in the same termas...learning the ropes.
i was generally looking for the girl who had the combination of great body (by my standards) great in bed and yet not jaded or hardcore -you know, the one that maintained her small town good nature, the girl with the good heart who just fell into this because of hardship but would stop as soon as she could. you know, the one we all hope exists but in reality does not!
i realized that it was best to do this not in serial but in parallel so that i could most quickly find my one. i would have several little things going on during one trip while seeing tons of other girls as part of the auditioning process. i was barely aware on a concious level i was doing this. i knew better than to fall for a hooker, so on the outside i was just having fun, but what made it the most intriguing for me was the hope of finding the one. that, in reality is what kept me going down there.
i did four trips in less than a year in this mode. i found many girls who might qualify as the one, but as i got to know each a little better, taking them out socially for dinners or to a concert it became readily apparent that these girls were able to put on a good illusion in a termas or for an evening in bed but under the greater scrutiny of social situations, they could not keep it up. despite the language and cultural barriers (i speak enough hack portuguese to get through a dinner and keep them laughing) i began to see the wizard behind the curtain pulling the levers of each of these ladies. that little flaw in all of them that made them decide to become hookers instead of be good girls and work in the local clothing store for less money always revealed itself. that doesn't mean i didn't appreciate them or still like them as a fun sex companion, but i realized that's as far as it could and should go.
during all this i would talk to other mongers who would tell me of relationships they had, or knew of others who had with these girls. it was always the same. it might last even a few years. the guy might even give her a ring. usually the girl was still banging guys on the side. always it ended. always the guy was out some good cash. the skeletons and remains of many others who went before me were rep001tered all over rio. i experienced this first hand when i was in bed with a girl when her us poor sucker "boyfriend" called her. he had given her a ring even! i had known her for a few trips and we had a little crush going. after a few drinks and a good lay together she was begging me to give her a ring, saying she didn't love this guy and would rather go to the us with me (until she found the bigger better deal in the us, of course).
by my fourth trip, 8 months after my first, i could finally see through the "bunda flash." the last girl who i thought might be the one, ended in yet another burst bubble. she was a hold over from my third trip, she had been in playboy, she was great in bed, we stayed in touch until i visited for my fourth trip. within a day of seeing her again, i saw through it all and realized i was quickly on my way to becoming just another gringo skeleton in the great cave of illusion that is rio.
i spent the rest of my trip enjoying many girls, having awsome rio sex, but this time with less magic. without the hope that maybe one of these might turn into something it was just a series of rollercoaster rides. fun for the ride, but nothing more in the grander scheme of things.
i appreciate these girls and treat them well, as i do in general with people i encounter. i like to see the girls laugh, be happy around me, enjoy themselves. it creates a positive situation from which everyone benefits.
but, there's a big difference between showing appreciation for a waitress who delivers a good meal and falling in love her because of it!
i hope exec talent and others with similar viewpoints are aware of this distinction.
Wandering Fool
02-19-06, 18:44
She doesn't charge me, she honestly likes me, there's no scam here
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She has bigger things in mind for you, baby. You know how to treat a woman, you treat her well, you have some chemistry so she puts you in the category of "big fish" who's going to get her out of all this when its time for her to retire. For all the little suckers she plays she's making the Big Play with you and several others simultaneously for the future payoff.
What's a GDP's 401k? A Gringo Sucker.
ET
A hooker is not a NORMAL woman. Tust me, and few thousand other experienced guys on this.
Well its your loss if you keep thinking that a ho is a normal woman. I don't undersatand how you got an idea that I'd hate women, actually I don't and I respect even ho's.I just won't trust them.
Perkele,
You wasting you time with this fool ET, he got ran off of other sites with his "I AM GREAT" I AM A "LOVER BOY" AND I GOT HO'S FOR FREE THEY ALL LOVE ME AND EVERYONE ELSE IS LOSER MIND SET LOL LOL
If you notice I didn't name his name in my post BUT since he THINK he knows me lol, and have so-called sources lol lol that think everyone is like him FALLING IN LOVE WITH HO'S LOL and giving strippers $400.00 to see sleep with them at his house here in the states lol NOW who is a loser lol
All you have to do his check out some of ET Exec Talentless post from other sites and its always the same on SONG:
1. I DATE FASHION MODELS
2. I GET GIRLS FOR FREE
3. MY GIRL THIS MY GIRL THAT
4. I GET TERMAS GIRLS FOR FREE THEY SEE ME AFTER WORK
5. ALL THE WOMEN LOVE ME
6. EVERYONE ELSE IS A LOSER
7. EVERYONE ELSE IS DUMB
8. EVERYONE ELSE DON'T LOVE WOMEN
9. EVERYONE ELSE TREAT WOMEN LIKE BITCHES AND SLUTS
10. EVERYONE ELSE MUST TREAT WOMEN WITH RESPECT LIKE I DO
11. ANYONE THAT USE THE WORDS *****/HO'S/ TREAT WOMEN WITH DISRESPECT LOL
12. YOU ROOKIES AND NEWBIES NEED TO LISTEN TO ME LOL
Look, this guy "Exec Talentless" go on and on about how great he is and how much he knows about women and how he knows all about Rio lol
Look talk about sources I will tell you about my sources and what they told me about your loser self.
I know all about you paying for strippers to come to your house cheating you out of your $$$$ here in the states LOVER BOY lol
I know all about you trying to marry that terma girl that sees tons guys a day and you wait for her to get off work the one you call "MY GIRL" lol that's the same one I fucked in her ass a month ago lol
I been going to Rio BEFORE you was marry to your 1st wife NOW how many wives have you had now ET?
I also know all about your third wife "ET" Exec Talentless lol and how you ran off to Rio trying to hide from her lol NOW who is the loser (now you trying to marry a terma ho) that's why you get so mad when the guys on her call them a hooker? loser
You see you try to have and make guys afraid or scraced to address you and you try to punk guys out by making it sound like you know so much about Rio lol you ONLY been going to Rio just a few years ago lol (I remember all of your newbie ROOKIE questions guy check his reports).
Now since you been to Rio a few times you try to pass yourself off like some type of a "DON JUAN" of Rio lol spending all your time and $$ inside of a terma waiting for YOUR GIRL to get off work is that's the one you trying to get to marry you so you can stay in Rio ??
Talk about your sources I will tell you about my sources they tell me and I also HEARD YOU ARE NOW CHARGING GUYS/ROOKIES to ESCORT them around Rio taking them to ***** houses and termas charging them trying to make ends meet lol are your funds $$ running low now DON JUAN?? lol
Yeah, you maybe can or have fool some of these guys on here into thinking you are so GREAT BUT yet you spend up to 8-9 hours a day on your laptop searching and lurking on sex sites reporting how everyone else is a loser and how all the women love you and how you gets it for free lol lol sounds to me you trying to hard not to face the facts you are the REAL LOSER.
That's it for me I don't want to start a flame war, if you notice I been a member of this site before you "Exec Talentless" without any problems.
And for the record, I didn't say a word about you are even said your name 1st BUT you should know by now ET, I am not one of the guys on here that is afraid of you or back down from you "loser" I seen you run from those 10 year old kids before outside of club help before lol lol YEAH your sources told me that was you the sissy gringo runnning from those little kids lol
You been making me laugh for a few months now ET reading your reports like you have GREAT wisdom lol, if you guys really knew how much of a fool this clown ET is and how he have snowed you guys for the past few months into thinking he some type of DON JUAN of Rio lol
If any of you guys take the time and research ANY OF HIS POST its always the same old thing.
HOW EVERYONE ELSE IS DUMB AND LOSER AND DON'T KNOW HOW TO TREAT WOMEN.
AND HOW HE IS SO GREAT AND ALL THE WOMEN WANTS TO BE WITH HIM FOR FREE lol
By the way ET for your own good my sources have also told me you need to be VERY careful (the locals know about you trying to start up your so-called tour guide services and how you been trying to escort and charge the rookies/newbies to take them to the ho houses) THATS AGAINST THE LAW SMART GUY.
I know it won't do any good (with your ego) to tell you to stop it you already think the rest of us don't get it and are all loser don't worry maybe I will bail you out next time I am in Rio lol
You see ET you must forgot who you was dealing with ET I am NOT like the rest of the guys on here you must be use to dealing with and telling your Bullsh*t to, I been going to Rio BEFORE there was a club help !! I SEEN clowns and jerks and losers like you come in go a dime a doz in Rio for decades.
Kid Cisco
Perkele,
I try to stop myself from quoting on this for a while, but what the hell is your problem?? What does a 'normal woman' mean? Do you think you are a 'normal guy'?? Don't you have any life experience?? I'm 26 years old and I'm mature enough to sense tricks, trips and trouble about people.. and I've never met any 'normal' person in my life.
Why are you so afraid to fall in love? Why do you necessarily think love would cost you a lot of money? I personally work harder when I'm in love. Love helps me earn more. Love's the most powerful motivation to work harder.. You can try to think that way.. Now, what are you working for anyway? 'Fun' itself, is not a very good reason.. You're probably still working for your ex-wife or something so you're stuck right there. Now, what's wrong with a man falling in love with his future-ex..? Life is full of mistakes and complications anyway.
OK so let's assume Brazilian women are the best actresses in the world. It's perfectly OK, as long as they make you happy. And they make us happy. We love Brazilian women and still prefer to call them 'girls' or 'women' or 'chicks' whatever.. and we're not afraid to fall in love and trust one. You must believe in yourself first. I've been with girls from 20+ different countries. Some worked, some did not.. But I fell in love with many of them and enjoyed every second of it.
If you ever wanna test who's a real 'HO' and who's not, you go buy a Gucci Bag (new season) or a necklace from Chopard (Happy Diamonds) and give it to the normal-est girl you ever know.. You'll be amazed when you see how she performs that night. The difference between a normal girl and a 'ho' is only 5 minutes.
Love,
Andre
ET
A hooker is not a NORMAL woman. Tust me, and few thousand other experienced guys on this.
Well its your loss if you keep thinking that a ho is a normal woman. I don't undersatand how you got an idea that I'd hate women, actually I don't and I respect even ho's.I just won't trust them.
EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted because it contributed nothing of value and in fact constituted a complete waste of bandwidth.
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex. Let's stick to the subject.
Snagged this photo off google.
Now there must have been a ton of non-pros out in Copa Saturday night!
I think the yacht seats is view is where you wanted to be.
Exec Talent
02-19-06, 20:12
Crisco® what, polluting one board with your hate mongering and misinformation wasn’t enough? Why don’t you tell everyone how you turned another board into a wasteland by your incessant barrage of mindless drivel.
My advice is based on experience. Very good experiences. Guys who come to these boards are generally looking for two things. To have a good time and to pay less money for it. The answer to both is simple. Treat women with respect. I am so sorry that message offends you or your women hating cronies.
You guys who have had your heart broken by a woman, or have ex-wives who took you to the cleaners. Sorry. Some of us have just had better luck. Or, maybe we made our own luck. Regardless, your take on life didn’t seem to work too well, while guys who treat women well seem to be having a great time.
As for being a paid tour guide, that misinformation is hardly worth a response. If I can help anyone, who respects women, while they are in Rio, I am more than happy to do so. No charge. You don’t even need to buy me a drink.
P.S. For those of you who are new, please don’t think these couple guys are the norm. Far from it. Most of the guys here respect women and are outstanding sources of information and insight.
Exec Talent
02-19-06, 20:45
Crisco® -- Just curious. I was in Rio last year in July, August, September, October, November, December and this year since early January. I have not seen you!
Maybe you talk about me so much because you miss me. Awwww.
When is the last time you were actually in Rio? Was it when that girl broke your heart when she told you she was only seeing you for the money? Sort of like the story I was told the other day. A girl is talking to a guy who thinks she is his girlfriend and says to him, "My real name is Claudia but my clients call me Priscilla. You can call me Priscilla."
Cunnilinguist
02-19-06, 23:14
Kid Crisco®,
You are a loser on another forum, you are a loser here.
Unlike you, some of us date fashion models as well as bright and accomplished women. We are a success with women because we know how to treat them. We NEVER treat women like *****s. We don't have several ex-wives and our former girlfriends actually still like us. You see, we don't have any women are bitches stories.
My sources tell me that you thought a woman actually loved you when all she wanted from you was money. Sorry that happened. However, just because that happened to you doesn't mean it happens to everyone. I know many men who have wonderful relationships with Brazilian women.
I see a lot of nice guys (with the emphasis on nice) come here with the full intention of seeing how many women they can be with. Then, they meet one they really like and spend all of their time with her. I saw a girl at a termas spend all night just hanging out with a guy she just met (getting no money) then go home with him when the termas closed. These women make choices based upon feelings and not money all the time.
It must really [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) you off that some guy, coming to Rio for the first time, is actually going to listen to me and treat women well. And, because of that, he will spend time with a girl who actually enjoys being with him, not just because he is paying her, but because of the way he is treating her.
The guys who listen to me pay less and have better experiences. They do not overpay, however, I do often hear, “I gave her an extra R$50 because I had such a good time.” Some of you may think he is a sucker. But, the guys I usually hang with are not the guys who rush to 4x4 and take a girl before 5:00 so they don’t have to pay an entrance fee.
Crisco, maybe you should start a thread titled “Advice for Losers.” There you can call women *****s all you want, because winners know that is what losers do.Kid Crisco®…the registered trademark…that’s funny… :D (the rest was not…)
Exec Talent having read many of your post from both forums (ISG & WSG) it is clear that you are an intelligent and articulate man. Let me further pay you the compliment by being blunt…you can also be very arrogant, self-centered, and condescending; some of these traits are very evident in posts like the one above.
Kid Cisco and you have been in an ongoing war of words on this and every other topic that both of you are diametrically opposed on…for what seems like an eternity. You and Cisco are both intelligent men AND both of you can have a serious discussion on this topic (which all other members, including ourselves can benefit from.) without descending down to the level of adolescent street children. The name calling, personal attacks, and spinning does absolutely nothing to further your cause on this topic Exec Talent. :confused:
Clear, concise and articulate factual points to your cause are many times more effective and convincing than all the insults and “loser” comments you can type up. In your zeal to insult Kid Cisco you overlooked the one last very important statement he wrote:
”And, yes I have and do see many girls over again and I have repeated sessions with many of the same termas girls going on many years either at the terma were they work or back at my place later that night with that said, so JUST BECAUSE I OR OTHERS USED THE WORD HO, doesn't means I or we disrepect the girls, if I did ( I only can speak for myself) she and they wouldn't keep on seeing me and sending me e-mailings over and over again for the past years.” With that one statement he disowned some of his previous statements. He doesn’t disrespect the girls, you say to respect the girls, you are both pretty much in agreement within your core arguments. Therefore a discussion on the matter could have been a lot more constructive between the both of you. When one resorts to insults in the face of fact and/or opinions, when a reasonable agreement can be at hand; that person is then the real loser.
In regards to the WSG forum, I recall that it was YOU who became unofficial “persona na grada” on that forum by some of the other members, and thru your own decision; to leave that forum. Cisco is still there with his colorful info, commentaries and opinions. Not that you don’t have any valuable info, because you do, when you occasionally share it. The way in which the info is presented, is what rubs many people the wrong way.
For the record…I’m on your side Exec Talent on this issue on treating the GDPs as women with respect (not at the same level as with a square woman though) because they are human beings and they are: someone’s Daughter, Sister, Cousin, Mother, Aunt, Lover, or Friend. I’m not a "Capt. Save-A-Ho" as you come off from time to time nor am I a “Hey Ho” either as Cisco (Though I must confess I’ve greeted many women I’ve dated (paid for) in the trade that way, in a humorous tone; and they just thought it was very funny.).
For a man to be successful in the P4P game (And with square “Normal” women to a certain degree.) he should have the following personality & character traits (I kept money out, because that would be stating the obvious):
1. Seducer (not a romantic)
2. Common sense and experience
3. Dog (discipline and respect)
These traits do the following:
1- Gets her excited about having sex with you.
2- Allows you to weed out most (we all slip every now and then) potential pit falls
3- Allows you to walk away and keeps the woman in check.
I’m 60% Seducer, 25% Common Sense, and 15% Dog.
ET you’re about: 70% Seducer, 25% Common Sense, and 5% Dog.
CK is about: 55% Seducer, 25% Common Sense, 20% Dog.
(Please gentlemen this is NOT scientific, of neither…as its only based on read accounts and postings)
Any man deviating in the opposite direction i.e.: more dog, less seduction will not (under the same or similar circumstance) do as well in the P4P game.
I hope you stick around Exec Talent (Clever name btw.) As many others including ourselves definitely got game and through our knowledge and experiences we can all enrich this venue. (Though I have not been to Brazil yet (Traveling Pan Am 2007) and I can’t offer first-hand experiences, I do think I can still contribute in many other ways, to benefit this forum.) :)
The Cunninglinguist
Carlos Primeros
02-19-06, 23:48
Gentlemen -
a new guy shows up on the board and the brawl starts. Why these insults??
Exec Talent has posted good posts with hard evidence and good advise. Everybody is entitled here to his own opinion and I was also one time attacked by some "people who know everyting".
What do we want here on the board: EXCHANGE OF INFORMATIONS not EXCHANGE OF SLANDER.
Therefore - please COOL IT DOWN.
My two Centavos
Carlos
Cunnilinguist
02-19-06, 23:53
The more you learn the more you realize you don't know. What is a NORMAL women? Are you speaking of all the women guys marry and trust, only to be taken to the bank in the end and left holding their dicks? I have been to Rio many times and have trusted women who are prostitutes, hooker, hoes, ***** or however you chose to refer to them. Had I not done so there are many things I would not have experienced. Was it blind trust? No, there was something I sensed about the women, which allowed me to put my life in her hands and get on the subway, bus or in a cab and travel to a place I had never been and knew nothing about. I treat them with the same respect, I treat ANY woman. Do I believe everything they say? No, but as ET expressed, there is no need to treat or view them as something less than human.
Also keep in mind, the experiences I am referring too, were with women who were not charging me for their company, although I am keenly aware they could have been somewhere else laying on their backs making money, so the theory that it's all about money is out the door. Simply put the Rio experience is unique to the individual.
As Lorenzo stated "For sheer variety of the women available, their physical attractiveness, their enthusiasm and vibrant personalities, and their sexual skills, Brazilian women just can't be matched". If you treat them well they will in my experience respond in kind.
Here is a challenge for ALL. Go to the photo section of other countries. Here is what you will notice without a doubt. Many women are not smiling, if you can see their face at all. In the Brazilian photo section you will notice the women smiling. They actually like men! Imagine THAT!
In our world there are ONLY men & women, since animal don't count. Well at least in my world. Perkele, I agree to a point. The same could be said about some members of this forum. And the Oscar goes to...
RonnyRonFirst I’d like to say, thank you for your good photos on the lovely ladies from Brazil, especially the VM Stunner…you definitely blew away that urban legend (VM has no attractive women). I “sampled” her photo on a VM primer I posted. With full credited given to you for the photo (of course.) :)
I agree 100% with your above statement treating women with respect no matter what the profession always gets us (men) ahead. :D
As far as the challenge, I’d like to add this (especially in the Brazil section); look at the names of who the women are smiling for.
The Cunninglinguist
Cunnilinguist
02-20-06, 01:05
Boys.
What is going on? Is there a be nice to a hooker week in Rio?
Ok, I try to explain one more time.
Women who fuck for money do not give a flying fuck about what you look like. Only thing they care is the content of your wallet.
ET, you mentioned that some newbie got a girl from therma free. When you're with a ho its NEVER free. They are GOOD in what they do, they give you some free and then they take you to a nice Sunday walk in RIO fuckin' SUL. They know they get paid. Every now and then their game doesn't work, but most of the time yes. Don't come to me with that kind of BS that they aren't thinking of making money.
Actually all started from the discussion in which someone pulled an ancient message that said that white guys are getting more action in Brasil. I say that in generally its true, but a number of HO's can't be the measure. Tell the number of non-working girls you've dated in last year or so and there you go.
On the otherhand this kind of discussion is irrelevant in this forum, because we all are supposed to share the info on P4P.
My 2 cents is that brasilian hookers are among best actresses in the world. Trust nothing they say and have fun. DO NOT FALL IN LOVE.You’ve got some nerve calling us boys on this forum…and who the hell are you?
“Is there a be nice to a hooker week in Rio?” Your wit is as dry as a brick… :eek: something like “Is the “Pimp N Ho” Ball at Help disco this weekend??” would have been more clever.
Arrogance doesn’t fit you well…perky, you just don’t have the intelligence to carry it the same way Exec Talent does. :rolleyes:
Lets keep ET’s comments out of this as he’s a little to the left on this issue as you are clearly to the right of it. Write points to support your case and find the corroborating info to support it. It will be a pleasure to rip your case to shreads.
Now on to the next “white” urban legend “white guys get more action in Brazil” Prepare to go to school on this lesson cause you are going to broken down point by point sentence by sentence on this matter.
No worry about insults from me my only goal will be to absolutely discredit your statements. I’m calling you perk…, out on this forum…bring your case forward!!! :cool:
The CunningLinguist
E.T, you are comparing apples and oranges in this case.Like many of us have stated the way we talk on a mongering site with other MEN is not the same as how we treat the GDP's.Granted some dudes probably do treat women just like that, and shame on them.Everytime this subject comes up,a few guys have said that its two diferent things (Kc clearly stated that below),but you insist on making unfounded accusations about our treatment of women.
This is a MENs site, and most men like to talk smack (at least the ones I know) amongst themselves.I could understand if there were women/hookers on this site as well, then maybe we should be more respectful in their presence, but this is suppose to be almost 100% men.
Even though the GFE is awesome in Rio, what I think most dudes are trying to point out with those types of words is that these are working girls. Some are true sharks and will eat you alive and some are as sweet as can be.But even the sweetest GDP can turn into your worst nightmare,if your not careful.These girls are trying to get PAID and have a good time in the process, but the first one is the primary reason.Although I dont fall into the so called avg description of a monger (mid aged,overweight , etc), I try not to fool myself into thinking these young hot girls who speak a different language are simply with me because they enjoy my company.No one said you shouldn't treat these girls nice and have a good time beyond the sex, but let's not lose track of the basic ***** mentality of these girls.
E.T if you still can't see what we are saying,than lets just agree to disagree and stick to something most of us can agree on.We dont know you and you dont know us, so chill out with your unfounded accusations.
Kid Cisco,
Your posts exhibit all the elegance of style and depth of content of someone with, at best, a third grade education. Compared to you, Nibu Raphael appears to write like George Orwell (although I doubt that you know who that is).
Exec Talent is one of the prime contributers to this forum. His posts are always worth reading, are cogent and to the point, informative, and well written. You, on the other hand, have contributed nothing of merit and no information that anyone can use, thus negating the principal purpose of this forum.
Exec Talent,
My suggestion is that you just ignore this oaf. Responding to his insults is just going to encourage him to write more. However, if he is making false statements about you, I can see why you might feel the need to set the record straight.
I agree with Carlos Primeros. Let's just bring this discussion to a halt.
Lorenzo
She doesn't charge me, she honestly likes me, there's no scam here
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She has bigger things in mind for you, baby. You know how to treat a woman, you treat her well, you have some chemistry so she puts you in the category of "big fish" who's going to get her out of all this when its time for her to retire. For all the little suckers she plays she's making the Big Play with you and several others simultaneously for the future payoff.
What's a GDP's 401k? A Gringo Sucker.
Man...you CANNOT turn a ho into a housewife man! I hear all the stories about women working to make ends meet because they get paid sh*t, but I also see chicks working at these d*mn super markets or cleaning hotel rooms for 20 hours a day. The vast majority of women selling a$$ are not wife material...they are generally addicted to fast and easy money and hope to score some joker looking to spend his USD based pension on her...
Early in my mongering career, I chilled with women for several days doing the dating thing, thinking I was not with a hooker...or that she was semi-pro. I mean, is there such thing as a semi-smoker or a semi-alcoholic. Anyhow, I digress...my point was, I was eventually hit with either a bill for 'services rendered' or something more sinister like a plot to get knocked up by me, or an offer for marraige right then and there...there is always a motive...which is not too dissimilar from chicks here in the US...they are just hotter abroad...but the love is still for the money fellas!
You’ve got some nerve calling us boys on this forum…and who the hell are you?
The CunningLinguist
I'm someone who has been in Rio. Unlike you, who doesn't have first hand experience. Thus your opinion on any matter has no value.
Have a nice day, boyola.
What I am refering to is white t-shirts compared to black t-shirts. I was walking this morning on the beach, about 11:00am and is is hotter than hell here now. I had my shirt off and I was still hot. I saw a few people wearing black t-shirts, with the rolling stones tongue logo ( for which I think the screen printers here used a paint brush, the imprint was really laid on thick, like rubber), it gave me the creeps just imagining that I had to wear that black t-shirt on a hot day like today, and I imagined tha tongue sticking to my skin. So, IMO, white t's for the day and black t's at night. ... perfect harmony
Did anyone jump ahead in their mind by this title? We need to think and read before we make opinions. Myself included.
IBZ
Kid Crisco®…the registered trademark…that’s funny… :D (the rest was not…)
Exec Talent having read many of your post from both forums (ISG & WSG) it is clear that you are an intelligent and articulate man. Let me further pay you the compliment by being blunt…you can also be very arrogant, self-centered, and condescending; some of these traits are very evident in posts like the one above.
Kid Cisco and you have been in an ongoing war of words on this and every other topic that both of you are diametrically opposed on…for what seems like an eternity. You and Cisco are both intelligent men AND both of you can have a serious discussion on this topic (which all other members, including ourselves can benefit from.) without descending down to the level of adolescent street children. The name calling, personal attacks, and spinning does absolutely nothing to further your cause on this topic Exec Talent. :confused:
Clear, concise and articulate factual points to your cause are many times more effective and convincing than all the insults and “loser” comments you can type up. In your zeal to insult Kid Cisco you overlooked the one last very important statement he wrote:
With that one statement he disowned some of his previous statements. He doesn’t disrespect the girls, you say to respect the girls, you are both pretty much in agreement within your core arguments. Therefore a discussion on the matter could have been a lot more constructive between the both of you. When one resorts to insults in the face of fact and/or opinions, when a reasonable agreement can be at hand; that person is then the real loser.
In regards to the WSG forum, I recall that it was YOU who became unofficial “persona na grada” on that forum by some of the other members, and thru your own decision; to leave that forum. Cisco is still there with his colorful info, commentaries and opinions. Not that you don’t have any valuable info, because you do, when you occasionally share it. The way in which the info is presented, is what rubs many people the wrong way.
For the record…I’m on your side Exec Talent on this issue on treating the GDPs as women with respect (not at the same level as with a square woman though) because they are human beings and they are: someone’s Daughter, Sister, Cousin, Mother, Aunt, Lover, or Friend. I’m not a "Capt. Save-A-Ho" as you come off from time to time nor am I a “Hey Ho” either as Cisco (Though I must confess I’ve greeted many women I’ve dated (paid for) in the trade that way, in a humorous tone; and they just thought it was very funny.).
For a man to be successful in the P4P game (And with square “Normal” women to a certain degree.) he should have the following personality & character traits (I kept money out, because that would be stating the obvious):
1. Seducer (not a romantic)
2. Common sense and experience
3. Dog (discipline and respect)
These traits do the following:
1- Gets her excited about having sex with you.
2- Allows you to weed out most (we all slip every now and then) potential pit falls
3- Allows you to walk away and keeps the woman in check.
I’m 60% Seducer, 25% Common Sense, and 15% Dog.
ET you’re about: 70% Seducer, 25% Common Sense, and 5% Dog.
CK is about: 55% Seducer, 25% Common Sense, 20% Dog.
(Please gentlemen this is NOT scientific, of neither…as its only based on read accounts and postings)
Any man deviating in the opposite direction i.e.: more dog, less seduction will not (under the same or similar circumstance) do as well in the P4P game.
I hope you stick around Exec Talent (Clever name btw.) As many others including ourselves definitely got game and through our knowledge and experiences we can all enrich this venue. (Though I have not been to Brazil yet (Traveling Pan Am 2007) and I can’t offer first-hand experiences, I do think I can still contribute in many other ways, to benefit this forum.) :)
The Cunninglinguist
Thank you for your post you get it !! I love the way you put it !!
Of course Not everyone on here are going to agree with each other if we all agreed with each other this would be a boring (site/thread) etc. and YES on some subject I agree with many guys on here and others I don't, that's life most of the guys I hang with we don't agree on many things the war, sports team etc BUT we don't call each other names.
BUT, what we should agree on is NOT attacking each other AND stop with the name calling.
If anyone have took the time to notice and read any of my post I didn't and don't call anyone names or insult anyone 1st, BUT as many of you that know me I want allow anyone to attack me without a reponse, I also know there are some guys just love to set back and watch a flame war and some like to bait me into getting into one.
If anyone have took a look at any of my post on this site or the others I belong to I NEVER START ANY FLAME WAR 1ST !! (but most guys also know I am not a punk either).
With that said, LORENZO you really need to do your homework before you start up with Kid Cisco NOW since you started your attack on me by calling me names etc, this is what I have to say to you its OK for you to be a GROUPIE BUT it make you look silly and weak by kissing another man ass the way you kiss your HERO ET ass, lol.
You talked about my level of education etc., those that know me and have met me would laugh at you and would try to tell you, its really best you just leave Kid Cisco along if Kid Cisco isn't messing with you.
For those that have met me and went out with me overseas they all can say I am a down to earth guy and know how to treat women and how to enjoy life they also know and realize how much of a joke you for trying to put me down.
The only thing I have to say to you LORENZO if you work for the rest of your nature life it would take you 5 LIFE TIMES BEFORE YOU COME EVEN CLOSE TO MATCHING MY NET WORTH !!!
I see you like to call names and put others down do this make you feel better about your sad sorry lonely life? by the way you DON'T know anything about me if you did you wouldn't even open your mouth and make yourself look like a fool, I don't have to go on a website and put guys and others down to make myself feel better then others (we all have our own writing style) that's a good thing.
Just because I don't wear my baseball cap on backwards or wear oversize jeans etc. I don't go around putting down guys that pay to go down to Rio and hang out around Mia P. and talking about their taste of music or calling it jungle music or jungle langauge like Exec Talent has on many of his past post on this site and others.
And for you Lorenzo putting others down like Nibu Rahael this will keep guys from posting on here of fear of jerks like you putting down their writing skills and spelling NOT everyone grew up in the US and some (English) this isn't their 1st or second langauge, I would love to take you around to some of the places I travel and see you try to speak and get around and see how you take it when they look at you like a fool and a dumb ass gringo.
And since you think you are so smart (Lorenzo) and like to call me names 1st lets see if you can take it you are a ( BOCETA/ARANHA) and you shouldn't have a problem understanding this Elle est grande,chatain,les yeuy marrons, et elle a des gros seins et elle est tres, tres drole,et jel aime, vila.
Also LORENZO, ICH HEIBE FRAU MEYER ? and last but not least LORENZO Auf Wiedersehen !! well ( that's about three different languages Lorenzo) and since you master the English language these shouldn't be a problem for you to understand.
I enjoy going to Rio BUT Rio and BRAZIL isn't my life I have a life I unlike many that spend months and months in Rio ( I don't know how on a 90 day visa) lol I guess that's more lies.
I don't just spend my time in just Brazil I been to Costa Rica/DR/Thailand/Panamana/Colombia/Netherland/Germany/France and yes Brazil over the past 10 months I won't promote other websites on here But I reported about some of my trips on them.
But, trust me when I am overseas I don't spend 10-14 hours a day behind a laptop like some people ET, AND NOT WHEN I AM IN BRAZIL with all those Bunda's around.
The funny thing is some would be SHOCK if they knew were I was RIGHT NOW lol (maybe I will send over a drink this week to one of the guys on here that wonder were I am) lol
And last but not least I would like to say I have NEVER seen anyone that knew and could read a person like you have CUNLINGUIST everything you said about ET is on point and so true he is Condescending,ARROGANT,and very self-centered !!
Just because person like ET decides to spend all his time and $$ living inside of a termas and spending 13-15 hours a day filing 59 reports and post a day doesn't give him or anyone the right to put anyone down and insult others.
I mean really I been going to Rio before there was a club help and do that make me better or give me the right to inslut the memebers on here NO! AND TRY TO COME OFF LIKE I know everything about Rio No !!
This have always amaze me when guys like ET and others make a few trips to Rio and then they try to come off like they know everything there is to know about the women and the city lol, just because I go to Cancun lol doesn't and spend all my time with hookers doesn't mean I know all there is to know about Mexico or the people or ladies or make me a DON JUAN.
I have a life with that said, before I forget Ee2002 YOU ALSO GET IT !!
This will be my last post and reponse to and about ET and Lorenzo I don't won't to fill this thread up with insults etc., this is a good site and by the way I am not a newbie or rookie on here, I just don't spend all day or post 100 posts a day like some people BUT remember guys take a look and see who started this 1st.
And I will move on and let this rest, and I am sorry to tell some of you that "NO" I won't be baited into a flame war I have things to do after all I do have a life .
PS thanks again Cunlinguist for your post you get it and you took the time to read all of my post that I made.
Kid Cisco
What'd'ya say everyone stops the bickering and someone posts a report on whether the Stones sucked more or less than they did at the Super Bowl? How were the garotas?
Sunset Strip
02-20-06, 21:40
I am suspicious of some of the "new" posters on this forum. Somebody, I think it was Lorenzo, posted a warning about their misinformation, as well. I agree.
I think there are two posters here who are trying to start trouble and arguments.
...I think I may know who is behind it, too.......
(if you think real hard you will come to the same conclusion)
TJ
Wandering Fool
02-20-06, 22:44
Perkele,
I try to stop myself from quoting on this for a while, but what the hell is your problem?? What does a 'normal woman' mean? Do you think you are a 'normal guy'?? Don't you have any life experience?? I'm 26 years old and I'm mature enough to sense tricks, trips and trouble about people.. and I've never met any 'normal' person in my life.
Why are you so afraid to fall in love? Why do you necessarily think love would cost you a lot of money? I personally work harder when I'm in love. Love helps me earn more. Love's the most powerful motivation to work harder.. You can try to think that way.. Now, what are you working for anyway? 'Fun' itself, is not a very good reason.. You're probably still working for your ex-wife or something so you're stuck right there. Now, what's wrong with a man falling in love with his future-ex..? Life is full of mistakes and complications anyway.
OK so let's assume Brazilian women are the best actresses in the world. It's perfectly OK, as long as they make you happy. And they make us happy. We love Brazilian women and still prefer to call them 'girls' or 'women' or 'chicks' whatever.. and we're not afraid to fall in love and trust one. You must believe in yourself first. I've been with girls from 20+ different countries. Some worked, some did not.. But I fell in love with many of them and enjoyed every second of it.
If you ever wanna test who's a real 'HO' and who's not, you go buy a Gucci Bag (new season) or a necklace from Chopard (Happy Diamonds) and give it to the normal-est girl you ever know.. You'll be amazed when you see how she performs that night. The difference between a normal girl and a 'ho' is only 5 minutes.
Love,
Andre
...falling in love with a hooker? Hey I agree, "normal" is a very relative term, but as sweet and nice as any hooker might be at first don't ever kid yourself into thinking there isn't a portion of them that isn't damaged goods. Same with strippers. Damaged goods. Are they not worthy of love? Of course they are, but the guy who falls for them is in for some very difficult times. If you want to deal with that kind of "normal" go ahead. I have yet to see a happy ending in those cases.
One Eyed Man
02-20-06, 23:31
Last Thursday, I was in Centaurus, met a garota of my liking, who of course up-selled me into taking a suite for an hour. (More complete report to come.) I felt like splurging, and agreed. Despite the obvious rip-off (60 minutes cost I believe twice what a 40-minute session costs, approx. R$400.)
The thing is, management wanted payment up front!
The female manager at the front counter was sympathetic to my case, but that is clearly the policy of the Therma's management, which pervades the entire place--hence the girls always trying to up-sell, etc. I realize it could easily happen that one starts thinking with the little head and when payment time comes and end up a little short of cash, but management clearly doesn't trust its customers. (Which is why you pay in advance when you come in.)
I won't exactly say that I am planning to boycott Centaurus. It's one of the biggest, and hence, most comfortable thermas, and has many great-looking girls, but I have to say it's now lower on my list. That's also because the girls' performance has yet to impress me--for example, CBJs seem to be the rule here.
I first want to say hello and thank you, to those of you who have taken the time to contribute useful information on this site. It may be hard for some of you to believe but there are some of us who do not fit the stereo typical profile of a monger yet are here just the same in search of insight into the P4P scene in Rio. It would seem to me that the common bond we share is our desire to acquire sex through money. It is for that reason and that reason alone I paid to join this site and read your contributions with earnest. My motivation for speaking up at this point is not to contribute a "report" but to make those of you who may be unaware that there are women who enjoy the P4P scene and visit this board. Well at least one that I know of. In the same way that racist comments are offensive to us so are sexist comments about women in genearal. I have to say that while in Bangkok at the Nana Plaza we were for the most part made to feel very welcome by fellow mongers after they saw we could party and have a good time just like they could....well ok maybe not exactly like they did. I think maybe it is our common belief that it is ok to enjoy P4P without judging it. Or am I wrong? We do not judge the girls who provide services, those who desire it, or the method by which they pursue it. Ok I'm finished.
Cunnilinguist
02-21-06, 03:26
for the record, i have never called a hooker a hooker or a ho a ho to her face i never had to, i pay them and they give me service and yes like many others on here that have reported i have also and still meet and go out with ladies of night/terma girls etc and they also haven't ask for any $$ i have of course spent $$ on clubs drinks etc., that doesn't make me think i am some type of don juan of rio like et exec talentless like to have us all believe he is lol
just because guys use that term ho so what? after all this is "a grown up man site" isn't it ? so give me a break lol it doesn't means any of us don't respect or mistreat the women of the united states or rio or anywhere else so give it a rest!
i mean really have any of you every played sports before? or was in the navy or any armed forces etc? well i have done both i played football and basketball and was in the navy and some of the talk i use to hear around guys on the ship or in the locker room wasn't what we said around ladies it was just talks around guys i never use those words around women.
kid ciscokid cisco it is a pleasure to make your acquaintance thru this forum. i have read a great deal of your posts and i have always found them to be informative, real, and just straight-up raw. but the one thing i can say about you through your posts is that there is no lying in you, you’re as real as they come brother and you call a spade, a spade and we all know were you stand. you will always find the time to answer a member’s questions in a truthful, informative and civil manner. to that cisco, i always say “much respect is given to those, who have earned it”. :)
i’m glad that you made your position clear on this topic on gdps and respect; your statements are clear, concise, and well written. these statements should once and for all put an end to this wasteful bickering back and forth when that time can be used in a more constructive and beneficial manner. but, if disagreements still arise, then at least a civil and fair discussion can take place. after all, isn’t that one of the bedrock principles you were protecting while serving our country (much respect…cisco, and thank you for your service to our country), the right to free speech, and the exchange and expressions of thoughts and ideas.
i hope that we (all members) can have more productive dialog as a result of the exchange that has occurred over the last 2 days. disagreements happen, that is life. but what makes us better (well in my eyes) is that we can debate and exchange ideas on this forum without reducing it down to a verbal menagerie. i’m not perfect (none of us are…) and i’m sure i will on occasion go off at the handle at a member that says something so…offensive that the civility goes out the window. but i will strive to be better than that and be the best forum citizen that i can.
i’d like to also thank the following forum members for their great posts and informative insight and information on brazil especially on rio and sao paulo:
from the rio de janeiro side:
keldeson and young & restless (whose great reports and wonderful pictures inspired my decision to make the trip to brazil.), bubba boy (the bubba report…need i say more…), lorenzo, el austriaco, rio bob (these three gentlemen consistently write some of the best, most complete & insightful posts on this board, with el austriaco setting the gold standard), wandering fool (the post “the game and its costs” is absolutely eloquent.), exec talent (has the potential to be one of the “great ones”) with him you have to keep your game up and on point, and last but not the very least mac (macunaima). mr. controversial…mac was like a shot of penicillin, damn he can sting you with his posts, but we became better informed because of them. yes, you either loved him or hated him…he had his flaws, was far from perfect, and he was “in error” on some issues, but damn…he was as real, astute, and well written as they can come on this forum and i will miss his insight.
from the sao paulo side:
davis150, moondog ( i wasn’t even looking at sp until i read their great posts and wonderful pictures), gengis kahn ( i wouldn’t be surprised if a screenplay for his trips to sp were in the works…and he’s just as cocky as exec talent...) and, sperto (omg, i still chuckle when i think about your “low roller in rio” satire post. the funniest post i’ve read on the forum so far.)
there are many others and i thank them all. please continue your great posts as we all on this forum become the wiser for them.
ps. cisco...thank you for your kind words, and i look forward to reading your future posts, and ronny ron keep up to good work with your pictures btw: when are you writing “the player’s guide” to rio?? i want my copy!! :d
the cunninglinguist
I did see the new post. They are just being direct. They are addressing what they percieve to be issues that needs to be surfaced. I read the posts, and I think that there are a couple of things that ring true.
What's with all the childish bickering. This thread is for info on Rio. Get back to talking about the ladies, black, white or purple.
I'm someone who has been in Rio. Unlike you, who doesn't have first hand experience. Thus your opinion on any matter has no value.
Have a nice day, boyola.I am sorry, I have not had the chance to travel to Brazil for fun. But I have had the chance to travel to a lot of different countries and locally here in the States.
Your comment, sir, has no value. Unfortunatly, I can see by what you wrote, you obviously have never left your country, or rarely leave.
I say this only, because if you have, you would not limit your experience only to Brazil. What you need to understand is that the p4p game and women does not start and end in Brazil, but around the world.
Therefore, your statement holds no value.
If I have to explain any further, than I obviously have to crack open my "How to talk to Children so that they Understand Adults." book. I hope I do not see a responce, and I will not respond to anything you write.. just wanted to point this out to you.
Also...
Ok, I try to explain one more time.
Women who fuck for money do not give a flying fuck about what you look like. Only thing they care is the content of your wallet.
ET, you mentioned that some newbie got a girl from therma free. When you're with a ho its NEVER free. They are GOOD in what they do, they give you some free and then they take you to a nice Sunday walk in RIO fuckin' SUL. They know they get paid. Every now and then their game doesn't work, but most of the time yes. Don't come to me with that kind of BS that they aren't thinking of making money.
It does not take a genuise to understand how a guy that would say, "Is there a be nice to a hooker week in Rio?" does not believe in the idea of a girl having sex with him for free. Seriously, your attitude would make any working girl just do the deed and leave.
I believe everyone has a price.. and I do mean everyone. But you have to remember, these girls are human and have a human side to them, and sometimes do things just for their own pleasure. I have had girls drive a few hundred miles, taking a break from there typical work city/scene, just to spend the weekend with me, and yes, they are working girls. Also, there is no Money involved, unless you are such a penny pincher that drinks and food is enough for you to claim payment of service.?.?
Dude, get real, maybe you need to excersise or workout or something to feel better about yourself, may help change your attitude also. I think you have some personal issues you need to resolve..
Ohh.. one more thing, when talking to my working class friends in bed, they all say more or less the same things. But one person said something that really stuck with me, I remember word for word what she said.
"An ugly man needs a lot of money to get laid by me." "But every once in awhile, I come accross a guy I would pay to fuck, like you." - Quoted by: Y. Turjjillo - From San Luis Potosi, Mexico.
I guess that kinda tells you, Perkele, where you stand.
Ciao
D
Exec Talent
02-21-06, 13:09
The purpose of these Report Threads, as I understand it, is to share firsthand experiences from the thread city, for the benefit of fellow members. Therefore, you will not find me posting on report threads in places I have never been nor rarely travel.
I think it is fair to say, that I have extensive experiences in Rio and have spent a lot of time here. I do not claim to know everything about Rio which is why I read this thread; to gain new insights from the likes of RonnyRon and Lorenzo. They have advanced my understanding of Rio and as a result, enhanced my experiences.
That is all I am trying to do for fellow members. My message is a simple one. My personal experience, in Rio and around the world, is that if you treat women well, you will not only have a better experience, but also will save money. Act like a jerk, get treated like one.
I was with an Italian friend in Help recently when a girl came running up to me, called me by name, hugged and kissed me. After she left, he asked me if I was just with her. I told him I had not seen her in four years. He said, you must have treated her very special. That pretty much says it all.
In business, we learn what to do from the successes and what not to do from the failures. It is up to you to whom you decide to listen. You can listen to the guys with multiple ex-wives who want nothing to do with them, or guys who have been loved by wonderful women.
Wandering Fool
02-21-06, 13:16
Has anyone hit Termas 65 lately? Would love to hear a report from there. It seems to get overlooked on this board and yet I've had some great experiences there. Its in the Centro area near 4x4 and attracts the local business types -especially after 5pm when the local white collars stop in for a drink and maybe a quick lay before heading home to the family. I've seen some downright beautiful girls there. Its in the Centaurs heritage -attractive girls leaning on the slender side -but round bundas are still to be found. I spent several days in my hotel with a girl named Isabella (her termas name)-all american blond stripper look with the brazilian bunda, well proportioned, perfect skin, all smiles but out to rake the gringo for what she can get. She's one of the very popular and busy girls there.
I also had one of my all time great passionate encounters with a girl named Yasmin. Tall, perfectly proportioned brunette with that wild animal curly Brasilera hair and round bunda. I had just been with "my girl" Isabella, and had returned to the boite when I spotted Yasmin. I had to have her! Vanessa hadn't returned yet so I approached Yasmin and took her over by the bar where we could get lost in the crowd. We started off getting drunk at the bar together and I would take a drink of my G&T and then french her while passing the drink into her mouth. I could feel the eyes of some of Issabella's friends but I didn't care. I realized Isabella was up banging some other guy anyway (which I was happy about because it gave me an excuse). Finally my passion with Yasmin could be contained no more. After confirming she would be completa (I had to have this girl every which way at this point) I told her, lets go. I nervously walked down the hall from the boite realizing it would be awkward if Isabella bumped into me there -I knew there would be a confrontation over this but just didn't want it to happen until AFTER I did the deed! We got to the room and it was absolutely explosive, fueled in part by the taboo of the forbidden encounter (not that any of this means anything in reality). Every position, every hole, half drunk, perfect looking girl, perfect moment -everything Rio can be at its best!
When we were done, Yasmin gave me her number and I went down to the locker to enter it into the contacts section of my electronic translator. Suddenly over my shoulder right there in the men's locker was Isabella yelling at me in Portuguese! Let me briefly digress: on my first trip 6 months earlier Isabella and I hooked up at the Termas and she became by girlfriend of the trip (not that I didn't get laid when she wasn't around). It became apparent to me that she was the typical mercenary gdp and so on my second trip I didn't call her and avoided Termas 65, spending most of that trip in Centaurs instead). My third trip I wanted to check the other talent at T65 and took the chance Isabella wouldn't be there. She was, and spotted me almost immediately when I walked in! She was in the arms of another man but quickly said some words to him then ran over to me, so of course I took a room with her and had a good lay.
Anyway, Isabella was pissed but at the same time wasn't sure that she could claim "girlfriend" status because it was obvious I hadn't stayed in touch with her so she wasn't "I'm going to kill you" pissed it was more like, "what's the deal with that?" pissed. I tested a magical line that has gotten me out of every pickle with a gdp. It's the equivalent to Bart Simpson when he invented, "I didn't do it!?" It's the line that immediately diffuses a potentially explosive situation and even elicits a smile from the girl. I shrugged with an innocent but slightly devilish smile and said, "Soy saffado!?" I'm not even sure what it means -saffado is used to describe a guy who likes to get around but yet is still considered a good lay so I think the girls see it as "you'll never tie him down but you'll enjoy him while he's around."
Having uttered the magic line that is the equivalent to presenting a "get out of jail free" pass, Isabella smiled, realized that I was no longer just hers and the situation was diffused successfully. I sensed a slight sadness in her smile though. It wasn't the slight ego blow that she wouldn't be able to claim the status of having a gringo boyfriend (at least with me), nor the realization that I wouldn't be the one to buy her all the material stuff she liked (camera's and shoes etc), but that maybe deep down there had been a slight bit of emotion there also. This girl was a hard core player and I was suprised to see what might have been a microsecond display of actual vulnerability. Macunaimaian Theory would say impossible. But, whatever might have been there was quiclky sublimated and stomped out if it ever had existed at all and we both moved on.
Trippleecks
02-21-06, 13:46
Perkele.. you are wrong on so many levels about the hookers in Rio and most likely everywhere else also. If you think that they don't care what you look like you do not know what you are talking about. I have seen girls turn down guys in Rio because the guys looked like shit or they asked them triple what they asked everyone else..
I have also seen hookers go with good looking young guys for free...
Nodd N & Dihaji.
Whatever.
Cunnilinguist
02-21-06, 15:22
I am sorry, I have not had the chance to travel to Brazil for fun. But I have had the chance to travel to a lot of different countries and locally here in the States.
Your comment, sir, has no value. Unfortunatly, I can see by what you wrote, you obviously have never left your country, or rarely leave.
I say this only, because if you have, you would not limit your experience only to Brazil. What you need to understand is that the p4p game and women does not start and end in Brazil, but around the world.
Therefore, your statement holds no value.
If I have to explain any further, than I obviously have to crack open my "How to talk to Children so that they Understand Adults." book. I hope I do not see a responce, and I will not respond to anything you write.. just wanted to point this out to you.
Also,
It does not take a genuise to understand how a guy that would say, "Is there a be nice to a hooker week in Rio?" does not believe in the idea of a girl having sex with him for free. Seriously, your attitude would make any working girl just do the deed and leave.
I believe everyone has a price.. and I do mean everyone. But you have to remember, these girls are human and have a human side to them, and sometimes do things just for their own pleasure. I have had girls drive a few hundred miles, taking a break from there typical work city/scene, just to spend the weekend with me, and yes, they are working girls. Also, there is no Money involved, unless you are such a penny pincher that drinks and food is enough for you to claim payment of service.?.?
Dude, get real, maybe you need to excersise or workout or something to feel better about yourself, may help change your attitude also. I think you have some personal issues you need to resolve..
Ohh.. one more thing, when talking to my working class friends in bed, they all say more or less the same things. But one person said something that really stuck with me, I remember word for word what she said.
"An ugly man needs a lot of money to get laid by me." "But every once in awhile, I come accross a guy I would pay to fuck, like you." - Quoted by: Y. Turjjillo - From San Luis Potosi, Mexico.
I guess that kinda tells you, Perkele, where you stand.
Ciao
DGive this man a hand. Bravo. Dihaji, I could not have said it better!!! :D :)
The CunningLinguist
Cunnilinguist
02-21-06, 20:26
The purpose of these Report Threads, as I understand it, is to share firsthand experiences from the thread city, for the benefit of fellow members. Therefore, you will not find me posting on report threads in places I have never been nor rarely travel.
I think it is fair to say, that I have extensive experiences in Rio and have spent a lot of time here. I do not claim to know everything about Rio which is why I read this thread; to gain new insights from the likes of RonnyRon and Lorenzo. They have advanced my understanding of Rio and as a result, enhanced my experiences.
That is all I am trying to do for fellow members. My message is a simple one. My personal experience, in Rio and around the world, is that if you treat women well, you will not only have a better experience, but also will save money. Act like a jerk, get treated like one.
I was with an Italian friend in Help recently when a girl came running up to me, called me by name, hugged and kissed me. After she left, he asked me if I was just with her. I told him I had not seen her in four years. He said, you must have treated her very special. That pretty much says it all.
In business, we learn what to do from the successes and what not to do from the failures. It is up to you to whom you decide to listen.Hello Exec Talent,
The purpose of this forum (ISG), this is a direct quote:
The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women.
the following link is provided as reference:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/faq.php?faq=faq_general_questions#faq_faq_general_questions_01
Yes, filtering down to the report threads one can say that sharing “firsthand experiences from the thread city” should be the primary purpose, but…it should not be limited to only that function. Accurate, detailed, and factual reports about the city or elements of it can be reported, by members who have not traveled to the stated city, but have access to RELEVANT information that can be useful to the members. Of course, the standards for such reports must be higher, i.e.: support and/or corroboration from first-hand accounts and photographs.
Exec Talent, you know what a financial analyst does, reports a company's (which he covers) present and future earnings (short version…lets not put the members to sleep.:D). Many of these analysts don’t have any first-hand knowledge of how the companies they cover, run... i.e. day-to-day management and info and the inner-workings of the organization. But companies pay them for their extrapolated analysis. So why can’t members offer us solid, factual information? :confused:
The reason I wrote the primer on Vila Mimosa (VM) was because a member Franga was asking a relatively simple question in regards to the location and nearest train station there. The only & best answer someone could come up with was: “Take taxi, every driver knows where VM is...” (There was other info that was somewhat erroneous but that’s not important.). Reading this, I decided (After some internal debating within myself, if it was appropriate for me to make such a post.) to gather the info I had collected from my research for my future trip and put it together in a primer. Now some members may have looked at what I did and said “he’s got some nerve posting about a place he’s never been to.”, While others may have said “Hey that was a pretty good report, great solid info on VM”. The only one objection I’ve seen on the post, was my remark referring to the safety of the immediate surrounding neighborhoods but, he still conceded that the overall primer was very good. Franga who read the report and had by then, first-hand experience from VM commented that the report was great. Please feel free (as with any other members) to comment on the primer (You are on the ground in Rio.) and let me know if any of the info on it is in fact wrong, as I will correct it…it’s my intention to gather & provide the best info I can find, as I myself will be using it when I travel to Rio.
Yes…Exec Talent you do have extensive experience in Rio and I would NEVER question that, nor should anyone else on this forum for that matter (That’s why I respect You and the content of your substantive posts, but; not necessarily in the manner in which you choose to deliver them). This main issue and complaint about your messages is in the way you state them. Your comments and info are stated with such elitism, condescension, and self-promotion that instead of many people walking away say “Wow, this is some insightful info and I plan to apply it on my next trip”, quite the opposite effect happens; whereby they walking away feeling “this guy is an arrogant SOB that thinks he’s GG2W (God’s Gift to Women). Thereby, your message “if you treat women well, you will not only have a better experience, but also will save money. Act like a jerk, get treated like one.” (And a good one at that…Exec Talent.) gets lost, and some will even go as far as to discredit your message, not because the info is bad, but because they wish to discredit you.
Exec Talent you have been (to a degree) as much the recipient of the negative responses (and appropriately so…), as you have been the perpetrator of them, against others who had great info, but like you, had a very hard time communicating them from time to time…I speak of your old nemesis Macunaima (Mac). I’m not implying that you are like him, but you did in fact have a similar fate elsewhere, that he had here, as you did leave the “WSG” forum.
Again I’m not bashing you and I don’t think I have been in anyway disrespectful towards you. I do believe that you are a very smart and intelligent individual that can become quite an asset to this forum and would have the admiration and RESPECT of many more of the members if you would just objectively read, what has been stated about you on here. All the members want is good, solid, information, commentary, and advise WITHOUT all of the other baggage.
When I go to Rio and if you’re in town I would hope we can go over to Porcão Rio’s and laugh about these online conversations over steak (not crow) in their dining room facing Sugarloaf. :)
Please enjoy the rest of your stay in Rio and hopefully we can have some interesting dialog on this forum.
Best wishes to you Exec Talent,
The CunningLinguist
Wandering fool,
U are right this place is awesome andh always has some great talent.
The owner of the joint is expanding and is going to open a new place right next to the terma is going to be called "Whiskeria Don Cafe" or something like that.
It's supposed to become a luxury house like the ones in Sao Paulo.
The place is set to open february 22nd.
I'll post more infos later on.
Exec Talent
02-21-06, 22:37
I seem arrogant to people like you for one simple reason, I am so much smarter. I have little but disdain for academics. They do little to advance anything other than their own egos.
In fact, you remind me of another academic who wrote a lot, but said nothing. You are neither cunning, nor a linguist. Insufferable Bore would be a more appropriate name. I have been validated by several institutions of higher learning, numerous beautiful and successful women, admirable men and life, in general. Hell, my mother even likes me. I do not need nor want your approval. When you get to Rio, let us know. Until then, the ignore feature will be my best friend.
Carlos Primeros
02-21-06, 22:55
I think, everything is said about this "incident" - let us return to the purpose of this board.
Carlos
Neither cunning nor a linguist. Too funny.
Cunlinguist, you offered Exec an olive branch and a friendly drink to to forget the argument. But he responded with silly insults, then said he's smarter than you. Hmmm.
I guess you guys won't be having that drink together after all. Too bad.
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Anyway - newbie question guys (I can handle the pressure). I'll be in Brasilia for a short work stint this year, but my reading of the forum says it's not the best place to be for a bit of fun. How far is it from Rio, and what's the easiest way to get there from Brasilia? I've RTFF but this simple advice isn't there.
Wandering Fool
02-21-06, 23:28
Geez, if anyone wants to actually talk about Rio here on the Rio Reports thread, I posted some good Termas 65 stories a few posts back. I'd love to hear any responses as to opinions or recent reports on the place......
Here's my all but ignored post:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=436329&postcount=324
P.S. By the way, what happened to Mac? Was he expelled after they gave him his own thread?
WF - okay - nice post! :) Always good to see a bit of emotion seeping in. What happened to Mac? After a PM or two, I haven't heard from him.
Geez, if anyone wants to actually talk about Rio here on the Rio Reports thread, I posted some good Termas 65 stories a few posts back. I'd love to hear any responses as to opinions or recent reports on the place......
Here's my all but ignored post:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=436329&postcount=324
Cunnilinguist
02-22-06, 00:10
Cunlinguist, you offered Exec an olive branch and a friendly drink to to forget the argument. But he responded with silly insults, then said he's smarter than you. Hmmm.
I guess you guys won't be having that drink together after all. Too bad.
_____________
Anyway - newbie question guys (I can handle the pressure). I'll be in Brasilia for a short work stint this year, but my reading of the forum says it's not the best place to be for a bit of fun. How far is it from Rio, and what's the easiest way to get there from Brasilia? I've RTFF but this simple advice isn't there.Well Piper1 at least I tried, I still wish et all the best. :)
The CunningLinguist
Cunnilinguist
02-22-06, 00:14
Geez, if anyone wants to actually talk about Rio here on the Rio Reports thread, I posted some good Termas 65 stories a few posts back. I'd love to hear any responses as to opinions or recent reports on the place......
Here's my all but ignored post:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=436329&postcount=324
P.S. By the way, what happened to Mac? Was he expelled after they gave him his own thread?Great Post. WF, I enjoy reading your posts. :)
The CunningLinguist
Royalflush
02-22-06, 01:03
To Marak:
If you speak Portugese then you should be able to negotiate 200R. I have never paid more than that and I always got one of the hottest girls in the club.
If you speak no Portugese, then I'm afraid that you'll have to count on your good looks or pay the Gringo premium. There are no fixed prices for girls other than the bar fine. Best advice is to go there when it's slow--Sun or Mon night before midnight.
Wandering Fool,
I enjoyed your report on Termas 65!
I am currently working on a program that filters out stuff I don't want to read, so that I am actually able to find those interesting posts! ;)
Cunlinguist, you offered Exec an olive branch and a friendly drink to to forget the argument. But he responded with silly insults, then said he's smarter than you. Hmmm.
I guess you guys won't be having that drink together after all. Too bad.
_____________
Anyway - newbie question guys (I can handle the pressure). I'll be in Brasilia for a short work stint this year, but my reading of the forum says it's not the best place to be for a bit of fun. How far is it from Rio, and what's the easiest way to get there from Brasilia? I've RTFF but this simple advice isn't there.
Piper1, a couple of years ago I met a real nice non pro 25 year old on the beach in Copacabana, she was on a vacation in Rio but she lived in Brasilia. When I planned to return to Brasil on my next trip I thought about including her in the trip but she wanted me to go to Brasilia. From what I remember the bus ride was the cheapest but long, real long. The plane ride may have been just a couple of hours but it turned out that the freebie in the long run would have cost me more than the P4P so I stayed in Rio and didn't pursue it. Bottom line is take the plane, you'll get to Rio much quicker but it will cost you a couple of hundred dollars.
WF - okay - nice post! :) Always good to see a bit of emotion seeping in. What happened to Mac? After a PM or two, I haven't heard from him.
The last time anybody posted anything in Mac's exclusive thread was 1/8/2006. The last posters were starting to talk about thailand and I feel that Mac was just completely tired and bored being nice answering questions about the sexuality and orgasms of the Brasilain GDP so everybody just gave up. How many questions can there be about the subject and since he couldn't be a serial antagonist anymore then what was the point.
I never flame but why pay $350 when the girl could be a dud, plus a bar fine, I didn't think Barbellas charged a bar fine but i guess i was wrong; how much is it?
i was in Brazil last March for 10 days and did 20 ST no LT at an average of $80, 19 were good to great and one was horrible, imagine if that was the one you paid $350 for.
I went to Franks once and was turned off, expensive drinks, etc., I met one pretty girl and everytime I went to kiss her she turned away, and then was very upset I didn't take her with me, to many better options.
I would like to know others experience's with Franks and Barbella's, good and bad.
I never flame but why pay $350 when the girl could be a dud, plus a bar fine, I didn't think Barbellas charged a bar fine but i guess i was wrong; how much is it?
i was in Brazil last March for 10 days and did 20 ST no LT at an average of $80, 19 were good to great and one was horrible, imagine if that was the one you paid $350 for.
I went to Franks once and was turned off, expensive drinks, etc., I met one pretty girl and everytime I went to kiss her she turned away, and then was very upset I didn't take her with me, to many better options.
I would like to know others experience's with Franks and Barbella's, good and bad.
Robertj,
The bar price at Barbella's is 60 reals to enter and that will give you two drinks and if you pick a girl and leave with her it will cost you 60 reals to exit with her.
BUT, since I don't like to drink much when I do find a girl I want to be with, I ask her what would she like to drink, then I order the drink and give it to her with my other drink I drink it or give that one to her also (or to one of her good looking girlfriend) lol, chances are if I give my other drink to her good looking girlfriend I will do the girlfriend a few days later lol, if the girl order the drink from the waiter they will charge your ass a lot more for the ho's drink AS DON'T RUN A TAB !! guys have been rip off, (it NEVER have happen to me) I guess because I know the guys there most of them have been working there a long time.
I seen a table full of girls that kept on pouring their drinks out under the table when the guys they were sitting with wasn't looking (one looked at me and smile as she pour the drink out under the table and give me a wink), the waiter kept running over to take another order asking do they want any round.
I tell the clown up front THAT I AM NOT GOING TO ORDER ANY DRINKS FOR THE GIRL !! so don't waste your time keep coming around my table and to find another trick to make $$ off of.
NOW if you don't want to pay the 60 reals exit fee to take the ho out just tell the girl to meet you later at your place or across the street at the hot dog stand or in front of club help etc. (I always write down or take cards from the front desk and pass them out to the ho's I would like to be with).
That's if you want to save some $$, I just take the girl out and pay the 60 reals (besides by the time you meet them down or across the street) you could have save time and $$$ and have been fucking her by now lol.
Make sure you tip the white hair older guy out front (the doorman) he is cool he will call you a taxi and open the door for you and your female (I have known this old guy for a long time) he is cool.
Also, the girls that work at Barbarella's if the girls isn't there by a certain time ( to go to work) they have to pay to go in also you can catch the girls BEFORE they go in and take them back to your place.
Barbarella's main source of income is from off their drinks and the girls bar fines so be cool about slipping the drinks to the girls and by having them meet your later THEY COULD BE FIRED !!
Kid Cisco
The Corn Hole
02-22-06, 19:17
Been reading this forum the last couple days and just wanted to say I am by no means a member of the "excel Talent" fan club (sure there would be a serious clash of personalities if we ever met up in Rio) but that quote he made "some of you guys are the reason they invented lube" was one of the all time classic quotes in the Brazil forum.
When I see people on here say stuff like pros NEVER climax with clients I just shake my head and laugh. No clue.
EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted because it contributed nothing of value and in fact constituted a complete waste of bandwidth.
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between men on the subject of finding women for sex. Let's stick to the subject.
New PUSSY! Please can we get back on point. I for one want to hear about the new PUSSY. Honestly, I personally don't want to read stories referring to the women as ho, bi*ch, wh**e, **** or what have you. What I would like to read about is all the new talent in town, since I have been told there are many new girls.
RonnyRon
The last time anybody posted anything in Mac's exclusive thread was 1/8/2006. The last posters were starting to talk about thailand and I feel that Mac was just completely tired and bored being nice answering questions about the sexuality and orgasms of the Brasilain GDP so everybody just gave up. How many questions can there be about the subject and since he couldn't be a serial antagonist anymore then what was the point.
Oh boy what a coincidence our friend Mac has posted today. I guess he still reads this board, how nice.
Wandering Fool
02-23-06, 07:41
wandering fool, i went to terma 65 over a year ago. Things must of changed alot since then because when i went it was a total dump. There were a line of girls against both walls. one uglier than the next. everyone was quiet and if i remember there wasnt even any music playing. There was no party atmosphere at all. I thought it was the worst terma.
Wow! We must have gone at very different times?
As a general statement of taste, Centaurs is my mainstay and on any visit I would rank that the highest in terms of pure talent, but T65 on my two visits would maybe be second. The two visits I had, one in June '04 and the other in Dec '04 it was hoping. Music, playing, girls dancing both on the pole in back and along the sides. I would venture rank it above 4x4, L'uomo, MC and Solarium based on what I saw.
I saw at least two gorgeous girls on each visit, but they were a little more slender in the bunda than I prefer, but nevertheless gorgeous faces and pretty much flawless bodies (assuming you go for the more slender thing). Then in addition to the two I talked about in my earlier post (Isabella and Yasmin who are also both hotties but curvier), there was another young one with the greatest round ass and cute face. I meant to go back the next day to meet her (she promised me completa) but I got sick and horribly sunburned the next day so I never made it back.
You really should give it one more shot! One thing, they cater to the executive coming out of work and that's when it really starts hoping. I think by coincidence, my visits occured during those times. If you go early afternoon it might be a little dead.
The history of Kidciso.
This guy first went to Rio about 2 or 3 years ago. He used Dons service (riotrips) as a first time visitor. Don introduced him to the usual crowd. I even met him myself. Basically after fighting with everybody he met and making an ass of himself, including pissing off every girl he met (he even fell in love with one of them - she didn't want anything to do with him) he was more or less not welcome in Rio anymore. I am not sure if he even goes there anymore, I haven't seen him there anymore despite spending 6 months a year there the last 2 years.
His first posts I know of were on another board club***, every post ended up being a fight with other members. He even joined up another member account to back himself up. The admin booted him from the site for this constant bickering and fighting with other members and with good reason.
He then reappeared on another site. The site was not policed at all, hence his posts were pretty much fighting with everybody who would take his bait. Again he signed up several different accounts to back up his own main account. Interestingly, and quite pathetically, he claimed to be a 6'10 black navy seal, when in fact he is a white pudgy middle/late aged doctor from CA. His fighting with other members got so bad it instigated the administrator to institute a "no fighting" policy. Hence Kidcisco need a new home, the new home he is trying to call is this board.
Basically I am sick of this guy. He does not add one bit of good information - ever. His posts are totally disrespectful to other members and the way he refers to GDP's is again totally disrespectful.
I would suggest anybody that agrees that he is a serial pest to PM Jackson, note the link "report this post to a moderator" under one of kidciscos reports. Hopefully this will institute action to bring up a poll of "is kidcisco a serial pest" and in turn get him booted. As for the other false accounts he has signed up to back himself up, hopefully they will be squashed over time.
wandering fool, i went to terma 65 over a year ago. Things must of changed alot since then because when i went it was a total dump. There were a line of girls against both walls. one uglier than the next. everyone was quiet and if i remember there wasnt even any music playing. There was no party atmosphere at all. I thought it was the worst terma.
T65 was one my favs while living in Rio for two years. Very odd that no music was playing. Perhaps, there was a soccer game on?
They often threw themed events several days out of the week. That is, the girls would wear appropriate costumes. During the early stages, I walked into the bar, and saw many garotas as hippies. WTF? I asked, and found out. You can check the events calender at the front counter.
Lover Boy #2
02-23-06, 09:58
"Interestingly, and quite pathetically, he claimed to be a 6'10 black navy seal, when in fact he is a white pudgy middle/late aged doctor from CA".
I remember, on the other board, this "Kid" was claiming to be a US Navy Seal and generally a tough guy who would kill you...or fuck you...his choice. I remember that he turned the other board into a constant argument that never ended, continually threatening the members who challenged him. He was a good guy to ignore, but some of his posts were very funny.
Now, the frightening part. If this guy is actually a doctor, playing Navy Seal throat ripper.....what is the deal with the grammer? I kind of envisioned this guy as the stereotypical US Navy lifer (Seal)....and put up with the crap because a tough guy playing tough guy reads kind of funny. But, with this new information, I feel defrauded. But, why does a white/older doctor write English that way? This is a real mystery we have here.
All of this said, the posts should probably be removed by Jackson, as they pose zero value quality. Some monger looking to find a nice place might move on to Argentina after reading the Rio fight in progress. Can't we all just get along (blacks, whites, Navy Seals and Doctors)?
Lover Boy #2
02-23-06, 10:07
I was at T65 about 3 times in 2005. The owner seems to be a good guy personality wise and seems to be customer oriented. The club is a little more expensive than the other downtown clubs, if I remember correctly.....and it is only a short distance from 4X4. I did find some attractive women there, but I also found the atmosphere a bit reserved/quiet. There was constant music however and on one visit there was a party with a lot of dancing and interaction. I did see this club as the kind of place that a lot of locals go to spend some time, have a few drinks, talk and touch the girls, then go home and go to sleep. The girls seemed a bit desperate for some "business"....at least on my three visits.
I was at T65 about 3 times in 2005. The owner seems to be a good guy personality wise and seems to be customer oriented. The club is a little more expensive than the other downtown clubs, if I remember correctly.....and it is only a short distance from 4X4. I did find some attractive women there, but I also found the atmosphere a bit reserved/quiet. There was constant music however and on one visit there was a party with a lot of dancing and interaction. I did see this club as the kind of place that a lot of locals go to spend some time, have a few drinks, talk and touch the girls, then go home and go to sleep. The girls seemed a bit desperate for some "business"....at least on my three visits.
LB - The girls loosen up a bit when you talk to them downstairs(one level down from bar) in the cafe/diner. The food sux, however, it is a good place to chill out when the bar gets really crowded. I had two favorite garotas there. Heard one of them left, and is now working at the Solarium.
Oi to all,
Last night I was walking to MP to look for the wild one christal, she was not around , so I spied a real pretty young face, name, Fabiana. She is very cute. I started asking questions etc. Ok, moving forward, she mentions she is from out of town, the usual. She is 24 and has three kids, the usual.
Now is where I publicaly scold myself for breaking several of my own rules.
1. She had a dress on covering her legs, her legs were OK.
2. She was sitting down, and when she stood up, I was really worried, but it was OK. Always get a standing view...
3. I negotiated 2 hours, 200, not great but OK.
4. As happens with MP or help girls, when the clothes come off, the reallity sets in. 3 kids and one nasty delivery scar.
5. After 40 minutes, she is tired and decides she should go home.
6. I am tired of her and say OK, go ahead and leave.
7. Agreement 2 hr - 200, now she starts whinning about full fare,
8. Nada, 40 minutes = 80, she is really whinning now, so I say take 100 and get lost , I am tired of her, and do not need a scene at 1:00 am in my apartment.
All in all a bad experience, one of the few bad experiences in Rio.
The moral here is , just check out more carefully what you are getting into. I only blame myself for not following procedure.
Bloomberg 11:00 am today R$2.13, not good.
IBZ
The history of Kidciso.
Interestingly, and quite pathetically, he claimed to be a 6'10 black navy seal, when in fact he is a white pudgy middle/late aged doctor from CA.
This guy is a DOCTOR?! Sorry, Bubba, but I find that hard to believe. He may have told you he was a doctor, but this guy is barely able to string an articulate sentence together. Is he as inarticulate in person as he appears to be on this board? As I said in one of my previous posts, he writes with all the facility of someone with a third grade education.
You are absolutely right on the central point: he contributes absolutely nothing of merit to this forum: nothing, nada, zip, zilch, rien, nichts, niente. He is a serial flamer whose posts consist of nothing more than attacks on other posters and degrading remarks about women. In fact, I think both you and I can expect to be recipients of some rather vicious attacks in his next post. That is the only way he knows how to respond to criticism.
And you are absolutely right on another point: he needs to be booted off this board. I think your suggestion is an excellent one, and I intend to report his posts as well.
Finally, a comment to all those mongers who say that we need to stop all this bickering and get back to the main function of this board, which is sharing information about women to have sex with. I agree with this sentiment entirely and couldn't agree more. However, in order to do this I think we need to clear the board of posters who contribute nothing and continuously fan the flames. Until we do this, posters like Kid Cisco are going to clutter up this board with trash. Bubba Boy issued a call to action. Since he is probably the single most valuable contributer to this board--Bubba, your guides are invaluable--I think his request should be respected, and I intend to do what he asks. I call on all the veteran and/or serious contributors to this board--Rio Bob, RonnyRon, Amerioca, ibiza007, Keldeson, Exec Talent, Lover Boy #2, Wandering Fool, Carlos Primeiros, Cunlinguist, TJ Fannatic (sorry if I left anyone out, but I'm listing these names from memory)--to give this some thought and to take action. Some of us may have had our differences in the past, but I think we all are dedicated mongers and regard this forum as the primary source for sharing and seeking information to add to the perpetuation of our hobby. And the only way to keep this forum dedicated to its function is to get rid of pests like this (or at least quarantine him to his own forum; I would be satisfied with that). Note: three of the best posters on the Rio forums--Young and Restless, Fartknocker, and Chuponalgas--seem to have disappeared from this board. I wonder if people like Kid Cisco didn't drive them away?
And now, Kid Cisco, I await your attack.
Lorenzo
Bubba Boy & Lorenzo, I stand with you. I would not like to see this forum turn into the Bank's Brazilian forum, which as ET stated is" a wasteland by your incessant barrage of mindless drivel." This must END. The sooner the better IMHO.
RonnyRon
Cunnilinguist
02-24-06, 03:22
The history of Kidciso.
This guy first went to Rio about 2 or 3 years ago. He used Dons service (riotrips) as a first time visitor. Don introduced him to the usual crowd. I even met him myself. Basically after fighting with everybody he met and making an ass of himself, including pissing off every girl he met (he even fell in love with one of them - she didn't want anything to do with him) he was more or less not welcome in Rio anymore. I am not sure if he even goes there anymore, I haven't seen him there anymore despite spending 6 months a year there the last 2 years.
His first posts I know of were on another board club***, every post ended up being a fight with other members. He even joined up another member account to back himself up. The admin booted him from the site for this constant bickering and fighting with other members and with good reason.
He then reappeared on another site. The site was not policed at all, hence his posts were pretty much fighting with everybody who would take his bait. Again he signed up several different accounts to back up his own main account. Interestingly, and quite pathetically, he claimed to be a 6'10 black navy seal, when in fact he is a white pudgy middle/late aged doctor from CA. His fighting with other members got so bad it instigated the administrator to institute a "no fighting" policy. Hence Kidcisco need a new home, the new home he is trying to call is this board.
Basically I am sick of this guy. He does not add one bit of good information - ever. His posts are totally disrespectful to other members and the way he refers to GDP's is again totally disrespectful.
I would suggest anybody that agrees that he is a serial pest to PM Jackson, note the link "report this post to a moderator" under one of kidciscos reports. Hopefully this will institute action to bring up a poll of "is kidcisco a serial pest" and in turn get him booted. As for the other false accounts he has signed up to back himself up, hopefully they will be squashed over time.
I’m not even going to address the issue as to what Kid Cisco’s race is, unless someone can produce a verified photo of him. The only "Fact" being stated is one of error and/or misidentification. I believe Cisco to be African American (But who cares look at the content of his character…his posts). Hell, I’ve been accused of being white (By people I’ve disagreed with…) and I’m not. He has only claimed ONCE on this board that he was almost 6’5 at 245lbs ex navy seal. Kid Cisco has been a member here since 04.21.04 (actually a full month before you arrived Bubba Boy [05.23.04] ), it’s fair to say that this is hardly new “place” for him ( Or, to any of the other members who have read his posts and/or have dialoged with him.).
Any member who has an interest in this issue, please read Kid Cisco posts all 44 of them (I have). He has been a versed and insightful contributor. Bubba Boy stating: “He does not add one bit of good information - ever.” Is an extremely gross misrepresentation of the facts on hand and borders on malicious slander. He has been and is respectful to the members of this board. On the GDP issue…again, his position has been made perfectly clear and the matter should be closed.
Kid Cisco is not a serial “anything” and is a good standing member on THIS board, please see the above statements for what they are (with all due respect to Bubba Boy) as baseless and unsubstantiated. This seems more like a witch-hunt for a member that speaks his mind.
I don’t understand something here…many members have been calling for an end to these latest arguments, Cisco stopped and made his position clear FOUR (4) PAGES AGO…. 50+ posts, and there are STILL disparaging posts being placed on this member. Today we object to the words *****s and Hoes… tomorrow it will be GDPs and Ladies of the night. Gentlemen….when will this end. We are ADULT MEN here...on an ADULT SITE, POSTING ADULT PHOTOS.
If these words are SO…..offensive have Jackson filter them out from the board…(and put it up to a vote for ALL members of the board.) but remember…this will open a Pandora’s box towards censorship that may spiral out of control.
I’m going to stand by Cisco on this because he has and does offer good information to the members (His latest post on Barbella’s was informative, can anyone dispute this otherwise??). This is also an UNFAIR attack on him and it goes completely AGAINST the purposes of this FORUM.
The CunningLinguist
I will state to ALL that I PMed you and welcomed you to this forum, since I like you writing style, but your last post gave me reason to pause. If you have never been to Rio, why would you make this statement:
I’m going to stand by Cisco on this because he has and does offer good information to the members (His latest post on Barbella’s was informative, can anyone dispute this otherwise??). This is also an UNFAIR attack on him and it goes completely AGAINST the purposes of this FORUM.
The CunningLinguist
I have been to Barbella's and I have no reason to return. Meeting them across the street is definitely something you DON'T want to do, since that is where many of the streetwalkers congregate and some of the young Brazilian thugs are located.
How could you possibly know that this information is GOOD or TRUE? I am not flamming, but there is no way to know what KC stated is true, unless one has visited Barbella's recently.
RonnyRon
Cunnilinguist
02-24-06, 05:18
I will state to ALL that I PMed you and welcomed you to this forum, since I like you writing style, but your last post gave me reason to pause. If you have never been to Rio, why would you make this statement:
I have been to Barbella's and I have no reason to return.
How could you possibly know that this information is true. I am not flamming, but there is no way to know what KC stated is true, unless one has visited Barbella's recently.
RonnyRon
Hi Ronny Ron
I never said nor was I implying that the statement was true or factual, how could I? But...I've read other accounts of Barbella's and his (KC's) statements read consistant, for me. I stated that the statement was informative, as it did provide pricing and other details that only a person who has actually been to Barbella’s would know. Whether the info is up to date or not, only a person that has been there recently can confirm or dispute this RonnyRon.
My point for the comment was that Cisco was doing what the forum mandates...providing info to others.
Also I stated the his info overall is good in context that it's consistant.
I personally don't like the use of foul labels towards women, as I've stated; but is that a just reason to ban someone?? Because, if that becomes the case, half of the members would face disbarment. What is a whole hell of a lot worse is writing slanderous misinformation about other members and trying to get them banned on that misinformation. That is just plain wrong and tomorrow it can be you or I or ANY other member, that some forum members may not agree and/or have a personal issue with.
Thank You again RonnyRon for your welcome to the board.
The CunningLinguist
Lover Boy #2
02-24-06, 05:45
Cun...thanks for going to regular type. Also, the gym information was very informative, so thanks. But, we have some honest disagreement on Cisco. Bubba is the most respected member here (having published a guide that even a know it all like me uses)....so, if he is annoyed by the guy, most of us are going to go with his wishes. You have to understand, he is the loyal soldier, not Cisco. Without all the sophisticated verbage and sometimes well written explanations of others, I must say he acts and writes like a retarded child...in more than one language. This is not "malicious slander", it is truth. There are quite a few "insightful contributors", Cisco is not one of them. His reports are a disaster and I can only hope that he offers his patients better explanations.
rio Antigo - This place hardly ever gets mentioned on this board. I went tonight, to provide some field reporting.
The place is nice, I was surprised. Cost R$50.00 entrada, R$150,00 - 40 min , total 200, not bad , it is what Luomo was in Sept. The front desk staff was cool, very friendly. The inside is small but nice, and the rooms are some of the nicest standard cabins I have seen, nice big beds, clean and fresh,
The girls were very average, I found a nice girl, Morena, a bit chunky, but friendly as can be, so it was fun. Nome- Carol. Out of 40 , they claimed 40 , I saw about 20, I saw 3-4 that were my style, so to each , his own, but the place is nice, Chop, R$5, total damage R$215. - 40 min
Now here is the weird part, on the street in front are TV's , about 6-10 of them, and then a few regular girls as well working the street.
I was standing around, waiting to share a cab with a girl from the inside, she was on her way to Help after her shift. She never showed up, normal, but, I was looking down the street and saw about 50 people in the alley drinking, well, being Rio, it is normal for 50 people to be in the street drinking about anywhere, anytime. I walked down about 50 meters to check this scene out. I came across a whole sub culture of Rio, the independent film community, they were showing independent films on a screen about 10'x10' on a wall in the alley, everyone was drinking chopp and watching the film, they had a stereo sytem for sound. It was cool, they have movies every Thursday night, only Rio made indie films, no major films, samba music friday and Sunday night, this place was a small bohemian village, I stayed about an hour, until 1;00 am or so. I will definitely go back. I saw two short movies and they were actually good in quality.
They told me how the area dates way back in Rio history, 30's 40's, and was a hangout for poets and artists, etc, today the place is really run down, they said they had never had a gringo tourist visitor, but I was really welcomed and provided a few small glasses of chopp. Just Cariocas being friendly, as usual.
Bold face and capital letters -
I am just curious about on-line etiquette. I am under the impression that using ALL CAPS = shouting and ALL CAPS in bold is = to YELLING. Please advise on this, and correct me if I am wrong, I do not know much about this, but it is what I have been told by others.
IBZ
Exec Talent
02-24-06, 07:35
Help was absolutely packed tonight; still had then lined up to get in at 2:00 AM with very few people leaving. One person who did leave, with two pretty hot blonds, was a not so famous anymore baseball player. He originally was concerned about people recognizing him, then seemed pissed when few people did.
As for the quality of girls, I have to say I think it was pretty low. A lot of the girls who used to look hot, now just look tired. It still does amaze me, however, how many guys leave with girls who are about as attractive as them. I have to wonder why they come to Rio in the first place.
It also amazes me how many guys don't know you can't wear flip flops or shorts into Help. That said, that ban will be lifted this week for Carnaval. I was told pretty much anything goes.
Ibiza007 love your reports. Your first hand accounts of off the beaten path places give me some new options to consider.
Lover Boy #2
02-24-06, 07:55
"Bold face and capital letters -
I am just curious about on-line etiquette. I am under the impression that using ALL CAPS = shouting and ALL CAPS in bold is = to YELLING. Please advise on this, and correct me if I am wrong, I do not know much about this, but it is what I have been told by others".
That seems accurate to me....and it looks like shit. But, the guy stopped, so this is behind us...hopefully.
Nice report on Rio Antigo...I'll be in country soon and I think I'll give this place a look (after my main venues).....hopefully the "film festival" will be in full swing...minus the "dolls" on the street!
Lover Boy #2
02-24-06, 08:22
Solarium Discount. Maybe someone can use this? (make it look like an e-mail)
Promoção da Tarde
(de 2ª. a 6ª. feira)
Conheçam a nova promoção da Solarium.
Sua tarde agora será ainda mais gostosa !
Todos os clientes que tiverem a marcação do atendimento até às 18:00hs , ***ão direito a gratuidade da Cabine.
CABINE GRÁTIS !!!
Desconto R$ 60,00
Para participar desta promoção é indispensável à apresentação deste e-mail na recepção.
Promoção válida de 2ª. a 6ª. Feira até 28/03/06.
Esta promoção não é cumulativa com outras promoções.
Cunnilinguist
02-24-06, 08:25
Cun...thanks for going to regular type. Also, the gym information was very informative, so thanks. But, we have some honest disagreement on Cisco. Bubba is the most respected member here (having published a guide that even a know it all like me uses)....so, if he is annoyed by the guy, most of us are going to go with his wishes. You have to understand, he is the loyal soldier, not Cisco. Without all the sophisticated verbage and sometimes well written explanations of others, I must say he acts and writes like a retarded child...in more than one language. This is not "malicious slander", it is truth. There are quite a few "insightful contributors", Cisco is not one of them. His reports are a disaster and I can only hope that he offers his patients better explanations.
Hello Lover Boy #2
I'm glad the gym info came in handy, please let us know if they're good spots to meet women (non-pro or otherwise). The bold type is to stress a point; it's not to be taken as a form of disrespect. I use it at MY discretion.
I respect Bubba’s stature on this board with it’s members and I too am a reader of his guide. NO ONE should be banned because some members disagree with their style or because they don’t fall in line (And how Ironic Cisco was an actual soldier…). I look at the info presented, I check it against other info and I come to a conclusion. I have read all of Cisco’s 44 posts on this forum Here’s one of them:
Cr Or Rio???
Silent Nited,
This is a question I get ask all the time without knowning anything about your background, meaning have you ever been outside the USA or what langauge you speak or if you been in the Armed Forces etc.
I would answer you this way.
1st Costa Rica+
Very short flight from the east coast about 3 hours away
Most girls I found speak some English.
Many local girls to hook up with.
You can walk around and get around the city really easy (BUT at night you need a taxi)
Also you will find many girls on 90 days visa working the bars from (Colombia/DR/Panama)etc.
Food is cheap/ nice shopping.
Also Delta have flights most of the time round trip on sale for under $300. 00.
Now Cost Rica- You won't find many girls wanted to spend more then a hour or two with you prices are very high up to $100. 00 a hour.
Most girls are older and their bodies aren't up to Rio girls standards.
Only a few massage parlors worth going to (only a hand full of girls you will find worth doing).
Many loud drunk gringos willing to pay the girls whatever they ask for some guys pay up to $200. 00 a hour and think they got a good deal.
Now Rio+
Many girls willing to spend time with you for as low as $50. 00 a night.
Many girls will do anal (if that's your thing).
Girls with great attiudes they will smile and laugh at your dumb jokes and treat you like a king.
Many termas (massage parlors) to go to will won't have a problem finding girls you will like.
Now for Rio -
You will have to deal with many kids throwing shit on your shoes, many street people asking you for $$$
Flights to Rio will run you up to $1, 200. 00 (also I have got flights as low as $500. 00)
Many P. I. M. P.S. asking to take you around for a fee (you can very easy find termas or any place you won't on your own).
Taxi's will charge you a arm and a leg if you not careful
Many places you will need to take a taxi (don't walk around at night)
The police from time to time will stop you in your taxi with you with your girl looking for a pay off.
All and all the deal is this if you have only a few days 3-5, and don't won't to spend a long time in the air, and you want to find girls that speak English and you aren't that picky then you will enjoy Costa Rica.
But, if you have 10-13 days to spend and you enjoy nice round butts and you want to get 9's and 10's at a good rate, then Rio is for you.
One last time to me its never either or if I have the time and $$$ I will go to both places I enjoy going to many different cities overseas be it (Thailand/Costa Rica/DR/Germany/Brazil/Netherlands) to point is this life is short if you run across a sale going to Costa Rica or some other place check it out Costa Rica use to be a really nice place now so many gringos have went there in overpaid the girls until now you have 6's and 7's THAT WILL DEMAND $100. 00!
So go to Rio and then go to Costa Rica you will have a good time in both places, then you can decide which place you enjoy the best some guys I met in Costa Rica been going there for decades and they WON'T go to any other place for free, the same goes for Rio.
Kid Cisco
Please tell me where in this post he writes like a “retard”.
Please tell me where he is being “disrespectful” to this member
Please tell me where the above statement doesn’t meet the forums purpose to “facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women.”.
This is one of his many posts that you will find. Please substantiate any of the claims stated.
I hope these accusations aren’t based on what is said on the WSG post, because then; there is no basis for this issue (As you can’t get banned for statements you make on another forum.), his “writings” in the multiple languages was done on THAT forum.
How you or any member feels about each other is your right, what NO ONE (members) has the right to do is lie about another in order to get them banned. That is wrong, and will be the (my) issue.
PS. Please use CL for the shortened name, thanks LB2.
The CunningLinguist
Lover Boy #2
02-24-06, 08:48
The post that you provide as evidence, is in fact exculpatory. However, the inculpatory evidence is as follows;
Mr. Cisco said
"I know man it get old don't it lol just because I and you and many others use the term hooker ho etc for some I guess that make us some bad guy lol
For the record, I HAVE never called a hooker a hooker or a ho a ho to her face I never had to, I pay them and they give me service and YES like many others on here that have reported I have also and still meet and go out with ladies of night/terma girls etc and they also haven't ask for any $$ I have of course spent $$ on clubs drinks etc., that doesn't make me think I am some type of DON JUAN OF RIO like ET Exec Talentless like to have us all believe he is lol
Just because guys use that term ho so what? after all this is "A GROWN UP MAN SITE" isn't it ? so give me a break lol it doesn't means any of us don't respect or mistreat the women of THE UNITED STATES OR RIO OR ANYWHERE ELSE so give it a rest !!!
I mean really have any of you every played sports before? or was in the Navy or any armed forces etc? well I have done both I played football and basketball and was in the Navy and some of the talk I use to hear around guys on the ship or in the locker room wasn't what we said around ladies it was just talks around guys I NEVER use those words around women.
Some spoke about the women of Rio smiling and laughing I think it was RonnyRon you right the girls do smile and they love to joke around and have fun in Rio I agree with you 100%, thats why I been going there for decades and still do I have known girls for decades in Rio and some of them I am NOW seeing their daugthers that are now of legal age !!
THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS if I treated them wrong or with any type of disrespect DO YOU THINK THEY WILL STILL WRITE ME? OR SEE ME? OR ALLOW ME TO SEE THEIR DAUGHTERS NOW?
I been to family parties and concerts and march beside them and along beside them in Rio CARNAVALS FOR DECADES!! (how many have you march in DON JUAN "ET")?? lol
By the way Exec Talentless you are one to call someone or ANYONE a losers lol I am laughing so hard right now at you one of my sources told me about something they told me to tell you "NOT ALL OF US HAVE TO RUN OFF TO RIO TO RUN FROM OUR THIRD WIFE lol AND HAVE TO BEGGED AND OFFER TO PAY A TERMA HO A LOT OF $$$$ TO MARRY US LIKE YOU" so we can stay in Rio and not take care of our family back here in the US is that what you call respecting a women and taking care of your business like a REAL man LOVER BOY (now who is a loser lol) you are sad ET a joke lol
So give me a break with this I go to termas and ask the girls to suck me off and take 40oz. of my cum without me using a rubber and ask them to take me in their asses and post pictures of them and talk about how great they are in the bed etc. etc, BUT YET if someone use a word they are disrespecting them lol what a joke.
I will talk to you later ee2002 hopefully we can hook up later this year.
Kid Cisco
++++The problem is, I am not 'LOL". This board is not meant for the purpose of attacking other members. My original comments stand.++++
Cunnilinguist
02-24-06, 09:27
The post that you provide as evidence, is in fact exculpatory. However, the inculpatory evidence is as follows;
++++The problem is, I am not 'LOL". My original comments stand....but I appreciate the polite intercourse.++++
Don't laugh...I'm not either.
Are you going to tell me there are more "inculpatory" posts than "exculpatory" ones???? Cisco's posts will put an end to this witch-hunt.
+++++I'm sure you do....LB 2, and does the bottom lube help you???+++++
The CunningLinguist
****, I hope you don't mind me being informal; I wouldn’t welcome you to an outhouse if your pants were full of shit (like your posts). This thread is for real men, not little boys who sit around and wish they were in Rio. You bring nothing of value to this board, so please and I rarely use this language – just go the fuck away. At least Mac was somewhat intelligent.
Em geral eu nao concordo porra nenhuma que essa cara esta escrevendo mas tudo isso e verdade.
CL por favor, sai daqui!
As I mentioned earlier, the area around Rio Antigo has some suspicious characters. From a distance of 60 meters, you might think to yourself, " I have found the fabeled land of the Amazonia, the land of girls that are 6'0" tall, but at closer inspection you think , "wait a minute, wait a minute, something is not quite right here" these humanoids are pointers not setters. They are "tripods, not bipods". These ladies have sharp things in their pants.
Just another piece of Rio to be observed. A similar situation takes place in Lapa, but there are thousands of people around the lapa area.
If anyone is in Rio for Carnaval, they should consider visiting the various BLOCO parties, ie, Flamengo, Gloria, etc, I have been told these are really interesting, local celebrations, there is one in Flamengo, near Devassa bar, a neighborhood carnaval. 4:00pm Sunday, should be really good, SAMBA!!!
IBZ
EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted because it contributed nothing of value and in fact constituted a complete waste of bandwidth.
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between men on the subject of finding women for sex. Let's stick to the subject.
Exec Talent
02-24-06, 19:57
I don’t always see eye-to-eye with Bubba Boy, but one thing is certain, he has spent a lot of time and energy compiling a guide for the benefit of the members of this site. Kid Crisco ruined another site, which is why some of us here no longer post there. Are we going to let this bully do the same here?
All you have to do is ask yourself whose posts would you rather not see – Bubba Boy’s or Crisco’s?
EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted because it contributed nothing of value and in fact constituted a complete waste of bandwidth.
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between men on the subject of finding women for sex. Let's stick to the subject.
I must admit I was unaware of this feature until I saw a couple of other mongers mentioned it. So I checked it out and put Kid Cisco on my ignore list. It works! All his posts have been blocked. Now I know I will never have to read his blather again, unless of course someone else quotes him. I urge all mongers with an IQ in triple digits to do the same. If everyone ignores him he may go away.
If you are like I was and aren't aware of this feature, just click on the poster's name and you will see 'ignore list' on the top right. Just click on that and add the pest to your list. That way you will be done with him forever.
Lorenzo
Carlos Primeros
02-24-06, 23:40
Hallo Gentlemen,
it is time to stop this bullshit.It is time that Jackson steps in and get this wanker his own littel froum to write or to be ignored. K.C. - why do you insult people and why are you so agressive? I am only reading your posts and I must say that there is nothing I really can benefit from.
This forum is for hte exchange of informations - not for the EXCHANGE OF SLANDER - you are on my ignore list.
Carlos
Going to Help this week is similar to shopping the Friday after Thanksgiving, to many people, prices to high, no bargains in sight. I will wait until after carnaval, to come in for the after x-mas garota sale. This week is like the the fourth of July weekend for a Rodeo Cowboy, ( cowboy Christmas) for these girls.
The girls have a lot of power as the demand is high. I know, if I do not shop early, I may miss the full inventory, selection may be less after carnaval, but that is OK, I will take my chances and wait 10 days or more.
A good time/week to go down memory lane with my phone address book, and the contents inside.
Tomorrow, Botafogo vs. Flamengo 4:00pm , Maracana. Muito bom. Tickets $R15.00, now thats a good value for your entertainment dollar.
IBZ
Wandering Fool
02-25-06, 05:12
I tried Carnival in Rio last year. I hated most of it. Ok, overstatement, it wasn't for me. Too many rude turists and beer drinking fools, everything way to expensive, Sambadrome was fun for about 15 minutes and then I was bored.
But then there was Help! It was the most fun I had down there. They had a great live band that played every night. All the girls got dressed up, actually dressed down -they looked sexy as hell. Girls who in the past I never really focused on suddenly looked incredible in some sexy outfit. The overall mood was so festive and fun you'd have to have been dead not to enjoy yourself. The live music really helped to bring up the energy.
Also there was plenty of new girls in town for variety. Every night was packed and the scene outside was lively as well.
Yes the prices go up but if you negotiate hard they'll meet you half way. You WILL pay more during carnival unless maybe it's a girl you already have been with and she can't find someone to take her price.
Having done many of the festivities of Carnival, I actually came away thinking Help most represented the ideal of what the holiday is supposed to be. The live music and excitement, the party atmosphere, the sensuality of the girls all dressed up (some in the full Carnival garb).
It sounds interesting and your post has renewed my interest in the place for the week, I will give it a go, Thanks for the push. I was really thinking it was more of the same, but on steroids. More crowded, more attitude. I was not aware they had a live band, which would help the atmosphere. I will for sure go one night, any suggestions as to which night would be best, if you think there might be a difference in nights?
Does anybody know which termas are closed for Carnaval? Rio Antigo is closed Sat - Thursday this week. I guess the girls just want to have fun and not work. Are the others all open? If anybody knows, please post.
Obrigado
IBZ
Lover Boy #2
02-25-06, 05:29
"lb 2, and does the bottom lube help you???+++++"
"bottom lube"?......the answer would depend on how you mean that. in a heterosexual sense....the answer is yes. i do use bottom lube when doing anal with a woman. in a homosexual sense (which is probably where you are coming from), the answer is no (not interested in anything involving a man's ass). actually, if you are interested in practices and have questions involving a man's ass, i would direct those to your asshole buddy/alter ego kid cisco.
actually, **** linguist, you have this entire psyco drama a bit backwards. you are supposed to be "pancho", the english mangling sidekick to cisco. in your twisted schizophrenic world, the characters have actually been reversed. it is almost comical that you can't even get this right.
the cisco kid: oh, pancho!
pancho: oh, cisco!
this was the last line of every episode. sounds very accurate doesn't it?
kid cisco: oh **** linguist!
**** linguist with mexican accent (actually being used by cisco by mistake): oh, cisco.....use more crisco.....it hurts too much!
i tried to be polite to you, even though i realized your game from the start. you are truely a sick pup and really provide little to this forum. any info you provide could be easily obtained from other reports. maybe you are just another "kid" sitting on your mommy's computer going to sites where you should not be?
your defense of crisco (or yourself) in the second person...actually requires a psychiatric survey if it is not a childish prank. members here are probably not qualified, so go get yourself some help and spend less time on this board...please!
in a positive sense, ez riorentals has a very nice gym list on their site. here is the reprint; (it is a lot better than the one you provided...so just sit back and let the pros do the work)
remember....you can fool the fans, but you can't fool the players!
barra
academia da praia
av. érico veríssimo, 400 phone: 494.4028 / 493.8454
opening hours: daily, from 6am to midnight.
www.academiadapraia.com.br
it has 3 heated pools, one of them is semi-olympic, for competitions, another for aqua aerobics and the other one is for children swimming classes. the gym offers a body-building room with 600 square meters and classes of capoeira, work-outs, step, lambada aerobics, funk/street dance, dance and spinning.
rio sport center
av. ayrton senna, 2541 phone: 325.6644
opening hours: monday to friday, from 6,15am to 11pm; saturday, from 7,30am to noon and from 4pm to 8pm
a variety of classes like spinning, jiu-jitsu, body-pump, step, work-outs and body-building. the space is ample and includes 4 tennis courts and a football pitch, plus heated pools for water aerobics. the gym’s aesthetics center offers a beauty salon, sauna and jacuzzi.
akxe sport club
av. canal de marapendi, 2900 phone: 325.3232
opening hours: monday to friday, from 7am to 11pm; saturday and sunday, from 9am to 8pm
www.akxe.com.br
this is 24 thousand square meters. it is made up of a tennis and squash court, 2 olympic sized pools and one for swimming and water aerobics. has aerobics, body-building, work-out, stretch, ballroom dancing, funk, jiu-jitsu and judo classes.
fisilabor
av. pref. dulcídio cardoso, 400, condomínio mandala phone:438.4882
opening hours: monday to friday, from 6,30am to 10:30pm; saturday, from 9am to 2pm
offers work-out, aerobics, body-building and jiu-jitsu classes. has a dry sauna.
ks academy
av. aramando lombardi, 663 phone: 494.2540
www.ks.esp.br
opening hours: monday to friday, from 6am to 11pm; saturday, from 8am to 1pm and from 5pm to 8pm; sunday, from 9am to 1pm has a number of squash courts and body building, stretching, water aerobics, spinning, step, street dance, lambada-aerobics, work-out and jiu-jitsu classes.
fit center
av. das américas, 4430, shop c phone: 325.9164
opening hours: monday to friday, from 6am to 10pm this was formerly a gym specializing in martial arts and today has
changed its style to offer classes in body-building, work-outs, spinning and stretching.
lagoa
estação do corpo
av. borges de medeiros, 1426 phone: 219.3131
opening hours: monday to friday, from 6am to 11pm; saturday, from 9am to 9pm; sunday, from 10am to 7pm
has two semi-olympic pools for aqua-aerobics. the gym offers ample space for open air sports, with 18 thousand square meters and options like the special low-impact running track, 5-a-side football pitch, sandy courts for volleyball and foot volleyball, different types of body-building equipment, spinning, air-conditioned rooms for working out, jazz, ballet, power yoga, tai chi chuan, lambada aerobics and body pumping. it has a sophisticated infrastructure with a dry and steam sauna, water shiatsu, spa program, medical center, beauty center, boutiques and automated bank machines.
leblon
academia do leblon
rua adalberto ferreira, 177 phone: 512-6449
opening hours: monday to friday, from 6am to 11pm; saturday, from 9am to 1pm and 5pm to 9pm; sunday, from 9am to 1pm
www.acleblon.com.br
work-out, boxing, lambada aerobics, spinning, step, gap, abdominal and stretching classes. the body-building room is
well-equipped, with modern equipment, attentive trainers and a personal training service. there is a mixed dry and steam sauna. there is also a cafeteria and shop with sports articles.
ipanema
body techrua visconde de pirajá, 365, upper shop phone: 523.3898
opening hours: monday to friday, from 6am to 10pm; saturday, from 8am to 8pm
www.bodytech.com.br
gap, work-out, lambada aerobics, step, street dance, aero boxing, body building, stretching and spinning classes. relax with a traditional or shiatsu massage.
physique
rua barão dea torre, 577 phone: 294.1947
opening hours: monday to friday, from 6am to 22,15pm; saturday, from 9am to noon and 5,30pm to 8,30pm; sunday, from 9am to noon workout, gap, stretching, step, street dance, aero funk and body-building classes. has a sauna.
copacabana
universo do corpo
av. nossa senhora de copacabana, 1256, shop 2 phone: 523.5707 / 513.5017
opening hours: monday to friday, from 7am to 7,15 pm step, work-out, stretching, aqua-aerobics and hydrotherapy
classes. also has a specialized beauty center.
equipe 1
av. nossa senhora de copacabana, 702-b, 1st and 3rd floors phone:255.2554
opening hours: monday to friday, from 6am to 11pm; saturday, from 8am to noon and from 4pm to 8pm body-building, judo, work-out, ballroom dancing, lambada aerobics and aero funk classes.
botafogo
ibeas top club
rua lauro müller, 116, shopping rio sul, penthouse 1, g3 phone: 542.2344
opening hours: monday to friday, from 6,30am to 11pm; saturday, from 9am to 9pm; sunday, form 9am to 1pm and from 3pm to 9pm
www.ibeastopclub.com.br
this is a spacious center and offers state-of-the-art body-building equipment. all classes are held air-conditioned and include: body pump, body attack, spinning, work-outs, gap, stretching, power yoga, body balance, ballroom dancing, jazz, charm, belly dance, aero dance and a personal training service. to relax, there is a jacuzzi, dry and steam sauna. clients also have access to a beauty center, medical center, boutique and cafeteria. this is considered one of the best gyms in rio de janeiro.
centre
pro limits
av. rio branco, 01 phone: 580.8787
opening hours: monday to friday, from 6,40am to 8,30pm
www.prolimits.com.br
a good infrastructure offering work-outs, gap, step, yoga, stretching, spinning, street dance, aqua-aerobics, swimming, aero dance, power training and tai chi chuan. has a personal training service, shiatsu, acupuncture, massage therapy and body posture techniques. has a cafeteria and boutique with sports articles.
Wandering Fool
02-25-06, 05:53
It sounds interesting and your post has renewed my interest in the place for the week, I will give it a go, Thanks for the push. I was really thinking it was more of the same, but on steroids. More crowded, more attitude. I was not aware they had a live band, which would help the atmosphere. I will for sure go one night, any suggestions as to which night would be best, if you think there might be a difference in nights?
Does anybody know which termas are closed for Carnaval? Rio Antigo is closed Sat - Thursday this week. I guess the girls just want to have fun and not work. Are the others all open? If anybody knows, please post.
Obrigado
IBZ
I don't recall any one night in particular being better than the other. Since it's a holiday the party is there every night. You might want to ask specifically when the live band is playing and go then (it might have only been on the weekend, I can't remember). Definitely give it a shot!
Last year there was one girl so cute outside Help. She was wearing that lingerie that looks like the bridal outfit -all white and lacey with a g string. Her cute perfectly round bunda was protruding from behind and there was a camera news crew filming her. Also some of those little rat kids were actually walking up to her and slaping her ass and running away. I rescued her and took her back to my nearby hotel for an hour before we even entered the club.
Good comeback KC, I knew you would sock it to em.Your one dude who never needs any back up, LOL. Cunninglinguist whether you been to Rio or not, not all of us think your opinions are not worthy. Whenever you do go, you can check with guys like me and if I'm in Rio, I will gladly kick down some of my Rio knowledge. Trust me most of us silent veterans that go down to Rio aren't as bad as they seem on these mongering websites.
Also thanks Ibizi for the day to day Rio insight, can't wait to get back.
Tickets are available today at the desk of the Rio Othon Palace, section 3 Sun or Monday, R$370, not good , but not bad since the show is tomorrow.
I was just there 20 minutes ago, so this is valid as of 2:05 pm Rio time , Saturday, 2-25-06.
I have looked for tickets and this is not a bad price on short notice.
Do go to the bloco party Sunday in Flamengo, next to Bar Devassa , it will be good.
Have fun.
IBZ
Papa Wahala
02-25-06, 23:29
As a newbie and yet to be initiated to Brazil (I make my first trip May 11-28), I was moving towards terminating my freshly minted membership on this forum in response to all the "bad blood" being spilled between certain members.
Many thanks to the senior members who recommended using the "ignore feature." It works like a charm and I no longer receive unhelpful or inane editorial comments or observations from certain renowned contributors that have had absolutely nothing to do with the "Brazilian experience."
Now I can get back to my "tutorial" sessions.
Cheers Gents!
I would think this is ok but wondering if anyone else does this. I have an issue with the spermacide that is used so I need to use condoms without it. The spermacide causes irritation for some reason.
Thanks
I went to my first, but surely not last, Flamengo vs. Botafogo match, Very Cool.
A good mix , beer, hot weather, crazy fans (rabid) and lots of singing, My friend Henrique, is the most quite person I know and at this match , he was crazy, running up and down the stairs yelling at the field.
Anyway, keeping it short, It was a great time. Highly recommend.
The Flamengo fans are the most vocal fans I have ever heard, they were louder than the Botafogo group.
Score - 3 -2 Flamengo
You can take the Metro to the sadium, or taxi.
IBZ
Hi,
I am heading to Rio again next month and will be spending most of my time in the termas.
I would like to enjoy myself as much as possible, so can anyone provide specific recommendations of girls?
It does not matter whether they are loiras, morenas or something elsse as long as they are good in bed.
Junior
Exec Talent
02-26-06, 20:17
Tickets are available today at the desk of the Rio Othon Palace, section 3 Sun or Monday, R$370, not good , but not bad since the show is tomorrow.
I was just there 20 minutes ago, so this is valid as of 2:05 pm Rio time , Saturday, 2-25-06.
I have looked for tickets and this is not a bad price on short notice.
Do go to the bloco party Sunday in Flamengo, next to Bar Devassa , it will be good.
Have fun.
IBZ
I know Dieine at www.copaapartments.com had some tickets. I was going to get some from her, but decided to go to Buzios instead. Her cell is 9386-2759. She had a section map and told me that many people sell tickets at low prices to the bad sections where you can´t see anything. So, be careful what you buy and from whom you buy.
Exec Talent
02-26-06, 20:21
I would think this is ok but wondering if anyone else does this. I have an issue with the spermacide that is used so I need to use condoms without it. The spermacide causes irritation for some reason.
Thanks
Highly recommend bringing your own condoms. Brazilian condoms are very thick. Certainly no problem bringing them with you in the termas.
Can someone tell me how to ask a garota politely if she will give me a blow job? My Portugese is limited, and I have often wished I could ask this question, but I have never figured out how to do so. I would deeply appreciate some help in this matter.
Dick Hertz
02-27-06, 04:15
I am going to Rio in May and would like to know about girl friendly hotels. I don't want to have any trouble getting girls in the room. Also any other info about the city would be helpful.
Thanks
Lover Boy #2
02-27-06, 08:24
Can someone tell me how to ask a garota politely if she will give me a blow job? My Portugese is limited, and I have often wished I could ask this question, but I have never figured out how to do so. I would deeply appreciate some help in this matter.
Just say "Boquete" and maybe point to your dick. Limitations are then kept to a minimum. This would be fine in a brothel, etc. For a girl that you are having a love affair with, probably the less said the better.....if she is from Brasil (and hopefully the age of majority), she will know what to do.
Lover Boy #2
02-27-06, 08:27
I would think this is ok but wondering if anyone else does this. I have an issue with the spermacide that is used so I need to use condoms without it. The spermacide causes irritation for some reason.
Thanks
If you can live with the spermacide, I would. I think it is alcohol based and possibly kills some organisms that might hurt your dick. If not, bringing your own is acceptable and poses no problem at all.
Can someone tell me how to ask a garota politely if she will give me a blow job? My Portugese is limited, and I have often wished I could ask this question, but I have never figured out how to do so. I would deeply appreciate some help in this matter.
"Voce pode fazer oral para mim?"
"Shupa shupa???" seems to get the point across for me (works in BA also)
Can someone tell me how to ask a garota politely if she will give me a blow job? My Portugese is limited, and I have often wished I could ask this question, but I have never figured out how to do so. I would deeply appreciate some help in this matter.Here's another quick tip to use:
* Write what you want to translate in English.
*Next, go to Google Language tool kit
*Copy and paste the English sentence or word
*Select the language you want the english word or sentence translated to
*Voilaaa- you have become a genius!!!
Highly recommend bringing your own condoms. Brazilian condoms are very thick. Certainly no problem bringing them with you in the termas.Agreed. Brazilian condoms are thick, small and prone to breaking.
I'm going to Rio in mid March with a few buddies. Any fellow mongers want to meet up for a drink or two?
BootyTapper
03-01-06, 02:50
"Shupa shupa???" seems to get the point across for me (works in BA also)Veterano,
I rolled when I saw this one because I can testify that it works for me too. Actually I have more cariocas come up to me and ask me, I ask for "cu", especially when they have a big ass.
I was at Help Monday night and it was really jumping, live band playing in the main room and a DJ in the small club. I was already with someone when I entered so I never asked about prices during the night, but I overheard some guys say " She was asking for R$400" , So, if anyone was in there looking around during Carnaval, I would be curious as to what you were quoted. I will say that the talent on Monday was above average. I think the reason was the cover charge was R$60 per per person, YES 60 per person, I got hit for R$180, friend and her friend. This really kept the number of girls inside down, but the quality was way up. I saw some really wonderful sights, many girls just going topless, a full out marketing war was taking place. It was the first time I have ever seen a really disproportionate number of girls to guys, way more guys than girls, so I am thinking supply and demand set in, and the prices were high inside. Just the opposite outside, way to many girls (all the ones that would not risk spending 60 to enter ), the competition inside was fierce and of high quality. There were topless girls dancing on the speaker systems, really a nice touch.
Thanks to Wondering Fool for getting my curiosity back to take a look during Carnaval.
( Help Update ) I walked by tonight - Thursday and at 10:00 pm it was less than 1/2 full, very, very slow, Carnaval is over and the crowds are down already. I often ask the beach workers and taxi drivers how the crowds are compared to last year, and they say this is a very slow year.
ET is right on about the prices here in Rio, it is not expensive, by US standards, but it is not really a bargain like it was. Following is an example of some differences in Rio. Near the SC metro station in Copa, there is a suco bar, the name is not important. I was there the other night, and ordered a suco, I went for 700ml for R$4,00. 700 ML is more than one of the 600 ML bottles of beer you usually get. A lot of liquid. At KICE suco, near Help, a 500ML suco is $5,00. ( It was the same drink, both places) So, the farther you get away from the main tourist area of Copa, the better the prices. In the center, near Cinelandia station, I have seen a small stand that offers a "misto quente" (grilled ham & cheese) and a small drink for
R$1,00 so the prices very greatly, centro is much cheaper than Copa.
Regarding a statistic I recently heard from a Government official. The AVERAGE education level in Brasil is 8th grade. If one looks at this statement, and looks at this statistically, it explains some of the behavior in Rio. Let's just assume a normal shaped distribution curve.
The mean education level is 8th grade, so, I will be kind and only estimate one grade +/- per standard deviation ( it could be two). So approximately 68% of these girls have an education of grades 7-9, and roughly 95% have an education of 6-10. Just keep this in mind when you are mongering in Rio, there is a VERY high chance, your date has an 8th grade education or less. Approximately 28% of these girls have a 6th grade education. And I do not think all of us always get the top half of the curve, and select the 9-10th graders. it is a lottery. None of this has any bearing on looks, charm, skill in bed , etc. If she is nice, and looks like your type, full steam ahead! Just do not ask her to balance your checkbook.....
I mention this because I have met two really nice girls lately, both are extremely pleasant and fun to be around, etc, but upon further discussion, both said they were forced to leave school at the end of 8th grade. I would have never guessed or assumed this from either one, without my curiousity being raised by the conference. One girl was black, the other white, color is not an issue or my point. All of these girls are extemely street wise, but really think about what an 8th grade education means in terms of interesting conversation out of the bedroom... this has alot to do with the mentallity many of these girls have regarding saving money, they think like 8th graders, spend today, save tomorrow. Several of the girls I have met, the ones that attend universities, always talk about saving money, not spending it.
Also keep in mind that their education level could explain why some of these girls like Blinkeee 182 and the back street boys. 20-22 years old and going on 15.
IBZ
Hello Joe,
I should have been more precise, I was referring more to the cost of food and drink, not so much the girls. You are right about the termas. I agree this is expensive for Brasil, but as others have mentioned before, what can you get for a $100.00 in the USA and Western Europe (FKK excluded)? I personally was much happier when the rate was better and the current exchange rate does come into my thinking more than before. I have to deal with the rates everyday, so I feel it as much as anyone. Now it costs $100.00 usd and at R$2.5 to the dollar it was $84 usd. ( example is 4x4, at R$210 per hour). I am all for a better deal, and if anyone has one, let me know. What I am saying is, IMO, I do not think the chicas are the tipping factor in the vacation for travelers, it is the other costs you mention. Hotel, airfare, etc. For $100.00 usd , I do not think you can get a blow job from a crack ***** in LA. compared to an hour with a Brasiliera. Just compare what $100 usd will buy you in New York, Miami, or L.A. Then I think even at R$2.10 it is not a bad deal. I was not fortunate enough to be here dring the exchange days of R$3.00 + to the dollar, I would have spent a lot more than I am spending now at the termas.
Food - At big Nector, which is near Help, you can get a special plate, with a main fillet of either beef or chicken, and 4 side dishes, for R$6.90 / 2.10, which even today is $3.28 usd. It is still very cheap. This special is more than most people can eat, and the same special, away from Ave. Atlantica, is R$4.90 /2.10 , which is $2.33 usd, a very good deal, even at R$2.10. And think about beer, a 600 ml bottle, more than a half litre, is $1.00 to $1.20 at most local bars. In LA or New York, a draft beer is $5.00.
I agree with you, and you are correct: with hotel room included, it is not a cheap trip, and can easily cost $200 -300 usd per day, plus airfare.
My situation is different, I pay only R$43 per day for a nice apartment. So I do not feel the hotel expense others have to pay.
Compared to the good old days, when I was not here, I would think that Rio is expensive, so I do agree with you on this point.
IBZ
Ibiza, i beg to differ when you say its not expensive by US standards. Its Officially expensive in my book. the rate is now 2.11.Which means its at least 100 bucks for a girl and room at the termas. Thats a far cry from before.Remember, you have to include hotel and room in your total costs. Its expensive all around. I
Please check out www.hotvip.com.br/felinas
I met a girl before that works there now, she dropped off a card at my apartment with this info.
The deal is 3 hours, R$100,00 plus taxi, so say maybe R$140,00 for 3 hours, or usd $66.00 or $22 per hour, including taxi.
You could spend less, but I wouldn't want to........
IBZ
The mean education level is 8th grade, so, I will be kind and only estimate one grade +/- per standard deviation ( it could be two).
IBZ
ibiza007,
Not to belabor the point, since this is a mongering forum and not a statistics class, are you sure the reference wasn't to a median and not a mean? Because in this case a mean wouldn't make a lot of sense, the reason being that a large number of Brazilians haven't gone to school at all. Therefore, the number of years of school for these folks would be zero, and a mean would skew the distribution toward a lower number. A median, therefore, would be a more meaningful measure. If 8th grade actually is a median, that really isn't that bad, when you consider that it includes all the illiterates. It means in all likelihood that a large percentage of the population has completed secondary school and/or gone on to higher education. Just my two cents worth.
Okay, now back to mongering.
Lorenzo
BootyTapper
03-03-06, 22:39
Ibiza,
I agree with you and Joe both. From my years of mongering down there, its been interesting speaking to the girls after sex. I did not do this with all the girls but the ones that gave "oscar winning performances" I spoke with. Of course there were some language barriers but we definitely communicated well. You are right about the mentality and attitude some of the girls have about money, its spend now and don't worry about tomorrow. Another thing I noticed is the cariocas over 28+ considered saving very important and settling down, the younger ones who are making the real dough were blowing thru it buying clothing, enchancing their bodies, or buying other unnecessary things. To me its kind of funny but true, pick a country, talk to any of its citizens, and you can see how much education they had.
I can testify about the cost in Rio. Do you guys realize that it was just about 2 years ago the Real was averaging about $3R+ to 1 USD? My best vacation down there for carnival was 2003-04, My total expense in Brazil besides airfare was $265.00 for 10 days. I think the Monday when the charge went thru the rate was $3.65R. Compare that to what we have today and we want to cry. In the last couple years the Real has been strong against the USD and it may continue that way since Brazil is taking strides forward, especially in Energy. Well enough about that economic stuff, this is a mongering site to I have to say I could barely keep my pants up that year. I was a fool and loved it, Help was heaven, Copa was a meat market, and the fellas had all the control (buyers market). Back then we were tripping to hear women ask for $200R, now they want $400R. For $400R I want that carioca and 2 of her finest friends to spend the night and take care of me in the morning. As I said in another post, look at the first $200R you pay as an entrance fee. If you tap that carioca good, she will come back for GFE's, and in most cases refuse to take money from you as payment. Now it becomes assistance. Only thing is now is she is on your d**k and hopefully gives you some space to operate. We don't need any fatal attractions or drama!
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Wanderer1000
03-04-06, 23:20
Maybe someone mentioned this and I missed it - what happened to ez-riorentals.com? I used them a year ago, and I just found some surgical device information on that site. The guy that used to run it posted on this forum. Is he still around? Does he have a new site, or did he go out of business?
Maybe someone mentioned this and I missed it - what happened to ez-riorentals.com? I used them a year ago, and I just found some surgical device information on that site. The guy that used to run it posted on this forum. Is he still around? Does he have a new site, or did he go out of business?
My guess is that the internet host or the DNS is messing up.
This may be my last trip for years to come in regards to traveling to Brazil.
I have researched a new spot and will be off on my tour in DEC.
I warned the forum about the exchange rate and new cost of RIO.
These prices will hold for sometime.
Sometimes U get what U wish 4.
I will be in Brasil from March 8 thru the end of March.
I will be in RIO for 1 day, so I would like to buy drinks for all those who I lost the bet to. So take advantage of me
Sh*t I'll b paying US prices.
I received an e-mail from a friends saying she made $R5,800 during the week of Carnaval. All clients from Barbarella.
I am trying to get on route with Nibu Raphael, the master of travel.
Sorry to hear of the continued deterioration of Copa.
On Friday night or Sat morning 8-10 young Americans were arrested for assaulting a policia. Someone who witnessed the incident says the only 3 of the guys were aggresive with the smaller policiaman, the rest were not involved,but because they were with the other guys they were arrested also.
The girls with the guys that were not involved tried to explain to the policia that the guys were not involved but the policia just took them all " with force". One guy walked up to the samller policia and stood face to face in an aggressive manner which triggered the entire episode. The girls said it was their first time Rio and they had just arrive Thursday night and in trouble Friday night.
Guys relax, your in a different environment.
Gabe lets meet!
Skyguy7505
03-05-06, 08:36
Maybe someone mentioned this and I missed it - what happened to ez-riorentals.com? I used them a year ago, and I just found some surgical device information on that site. The guy that used to run it posted on this forum. Is he still around? Does he have a new site, or did he go out of business?You must have typed in an error somewhere. I've been back and forth with Kenn for the last few weeks trying to find my perfect monger pad. Narrowing it down now since I'm less then a week away. For one thing sure, hands down to Kenn for replying to my emails.
I have been reading the board carefully in the last few weeks and have gathered that most of agree on the increase of overall costs in Brazil, in particular, Rio. Many points have been brought up to help save some flow during your time in Rio. Whether you are a newbie now, or if you were one sometime in the past, RTFF will always help you save time, monye, and headaches. Also, helping keep safe.
Aside from the obvious, such as eating in non-touristic rest. and staying in apartments, and so on... I think one particular area that experienced guys(many visits to Rio or Brazil in general) have a great advantage over newbies is the amount of cash spent on the ladies. I really never gave it much thought till these last few days, but I have come to realize that I have saved quite a bit of money and will save quite a bit more in future trips because I have several girls that I have kept in contact with from previous visits.
There is already a sense of comfort the girls have with me, and we share great times together. Some I pay for, and others I don't pay them any money at all ( Obviously I do take them out to dinner, and go out dancing and buy them drinks. So money is spent, but shit, thats the least one can do, so please don't be one of those cheap bastards that counts that as payment or paying). And the ones I do pay directly, don't even ask for absurd amount for fun time. Hell, sometimes they don't even bring up an amount, I just place the flow in their purse, and they don't even count it until after they leave my apartment. They are human, they like to have fun too, and if they have fun with you and feel secure and comfortable, its a win win situation.
So when I go to Rio in April, I will different sources to choose from depending on my apetite. They will be at discount prices compared to what newbies are paying now, and in some cases, for nothing. This does not mean I will not visit some of my favorite hang outs, but overall, it is nice to know that when I call a garota for a date, we are going to have a great time getting a bite to eat, have a great time in the sack, and little concern about something being stolen, or other worries that go along with making an arrangement with a complete stranger.
For those that are wondering, I have met these girls in different places, and in different situations. Termas, escort services, beach, mall, and through one Brazilain friend.
So my advice, if you find a female companion that is the right freak for you in bed, and their is genuine chemistry and comfort, maintain contact, respect them, and all will be good for future trips, including saving money.
In conclusion, for all newbies, during this process of trying to maintain open lines of communication with the ladies, please don't fall in love, and learn to weed out the ones that are cons from the ones that do not have bad intentions ( READ THE F***** FORUM FORM previous experiences from experienced mongers to help you figure that out, it helped me). The same applies to any country you decide to visit. Good Luck to all in adult disney world.
Mangera
I know it is not cool to "out" other mongers, but did anyone see Diddy at Help during Carnival?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11204776/
I heard he was gay, so I am surprised he would be looking for pro action, but it is possible.
IDid Diddy do some discount booty shopping?
The rap impresario is in Brazil, enjoying Carnival, where he was spotted by reporters slipping into a hot spot known for its low-priced call girls, reports our source in Rio.
“The name of the place is ‘Help’ and the girls there are supposed to be the cheapest prostitutes in the city,” says the source. “According to the local press he was annoyed when he saw the photographers and arranged to get in through the garage.”
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I like the way they say that they are the cheapest prostitutes in the city, obviously who ever wrote the article is not reading this board.
Exec Talent
03-05-06, 21:01
If you have ever been privy or the subject of a news story, you know the press rarely gets it right. The only publication I feel is reliable is the Wall Street Journal. Stories I have been the subject of it has been right to the smallest detail while others had basic facts wrong, which is why I believe so little of what I read.
I was told earlier this year, by someone outside, that Help was full of Transvestites. So much misinformation. So, exactly how does one go directly from the garage under Help into Help?
Diddy. . . I heard he was gay. . .
I'm sure that will come as a surprise to Jennifer Lopez!
From what I was told by friends that was in club Help when D.DIDDY, came in last week he was with is baby Mommy "Kim" that have been together even BEFORE use to pound on J-Lo big BUTT,lol I also read the link just now and they reported he was with his lady as well also he has other kids (so much for him being gay).
Its a shame a guy like Puffy can't take care of himself like (shave/dress nice/etc.) without being called gay by some and let me not forget he makes millions and NOT have so many broke jealous haters out there talking smack about them lol
Like the saying goes jealous "male" haters grown up to marry jealous "female" haters and they have kids that grow up to be jealous/haters and so on and so on lol
The worst part is guys like Puffy are either bad mouth by either being called by some "Thugs" or "gangsters" and now they are called gay what a joke lol
Puffy and many others that I will not name on here, also been going to Rio for at least the past decade normally they just goes into help and other places without all the fanfare I guess since its Carnival time the press will be more on the lookout for stars etc.
I guess when you have millions and go out with your lady, and have dated some of the finest asses in the world you are going to get a lot of jealous people hating on you and get some bad press, I guess it goes along with the being in the limelight.
Kid Cisco
I was at the beach on Saturday and had a chair near Othon palace. Near to me sat a relatively cute girl , with a killer body. She was about 3 meters away from me. We started to talk a little, and she knew not one word of english. She told me she was here for carnaval, she was from the north, and then got up to take a swim. She asked me to look after her things while she was in the water. She put a sack of food next to me, which was open at the top. I saw a package of hotdogs and a couple cans of food in the bag. I got the impression she had come to the big city for some easy carnaval money and was living on the beach for the week. This is just an observation of what caranaval brings to Rio. I think the girls come for the bright lights.
Cristal, - 2nd time with the wild one, even better than the first - OMG... I met her at MP, and talked for a few minutes, she even bought a few chopp. She said she needed to go to her apartment for a minute and asked if I wanted to go with her, sure why not. The apartment is a great location. Ave. Atlantica, 11th floor, beach view, about half way between Help and the Soffitel Hotel. This place had an awesome night view. Inside were 3 other girls, all on one bed , sleeping, It has been a long week. The place was being rented by four amigas for the month, one bed , one couch. Cost per month
R$1500.00 . I believe that is a great price for beach front view for the month of carnaval. It goes to show, that brasilians will almost always find places, we would never find. The apartment was not that bad, bathroom and kitchen not the best, but the living room was OK. The view was fantastic, as I think that the view from the Soffitel end of the beach, looking towards Sugarloaf, is the best view, as you can see the whole natural curve of the beach. I might even think of moving there, just for that view everyday.
I was at MP at 10:00 pm last night, I met Cristal there for a chopp, and there were not 10 males in the whole place , maybe 10 girls. It has really thinned out quickly in a few days.
I laugh everytime I go by MP and see a regular couple, tourista, eating a meal there. I wonder how long it takes for them to figure out they have just decided to eat dinner in an outdoor brothel. Same for Help patio.
IBZ
I for one really appreciate your real-time reports on Rio.
Thnks!
Carrib
I'm planning a stag party in rio for 8 guys or so. this will be our first time and we will be going in last week of april. How is the weather in Rio in that month. ALso if anyone could give me a good head start before we go it would be helpfull. our last stag was in Costa Rica and we couldnt ask for a better time. I`m just hoping that Rio will be the same so any pointer can help.
Thanks
I mostly just try to put some of my observations about Rio and Copa. It really is small place. I feel like when I go to Ipanema, I am in a completely different city, and it is only 10 minutes away by bicycle. Totally different atmosphere than Copa. Many of the sidewalk vendors know me from walking by so often, and I try to get the real scoop on how those guys operate. I now can even get special orders sometimes, I will see a T - shirt i like, and I say I need it in a GGG, which is an American XL, do not believe these guys when they tel you up and down that a GG is an american XL, you will just end up with a R$15 car washing rag, as it will be a mens medium when you wash and dry it. Now these guys and girls will deliver to my apartment, as I pay in advance.
I special odered 3 Rolling Stone shirts, size GGG, three were delivered to my apartment, all 3 GG,(not the right size) so I went and talked to the lady. She did not have enough money that night to pay me back $R60, so the next morning, she showed up with the full amount at my apartment, and exchanged the money for the shirts. A fair business person.
And one day I dropped two folded R$50 notes, I found one easily and could not find the other one. I was just about to walk off, when a guy that was watching pointed out the missing note, he could have very easily said nothing, but he was a good person. Generally here, the people are very good and nice, but a few will try to fuc* you. Never accept a ride from a taxi without a meter, UNLESS, the pre agreed quote is OK with you, other wise you will get fuc*ed.
Another short story. I like harley's and there is a guy I see at a Kilo place all the time. I have talked to him and he is a cool guy. We talked about motorcycles and he invited me to his shop in Botafogo. On Saturday mornings they have a breakfast group or something. I lost the address so I went to the Kilo place . Churrasco Grill ( green sign), to get his info. I am talking to he manager, and asking about this customer, and the manager says " you mean my boss". I said what. He said, "yes my boss, the man you are asking about owns this place". I would have never put that together, that a guy in a leather Harley Dogs vest, long grey hair in a pony tail , was the owner of the grill. You just never know what people will be or what they are up to.
There are plenty of reports about girls and prices, so I try to stay away from that as much as possible. Prices are all over the place, you just keep looking and you can find about anything, even at Help, but you have to strike up conversations with 7-10 girls to get the full price list available and that takes alot of time.
The best advise I can give about the girls is not about price, look for girls with a smile and some charisma, and you will be miles ahead. Saving $R50 reals for a shitty experience is a not a bargain.
So, Obrigado for your kind words.
I do have a number for Cristal, but I am not sure when she leaves, maybe this week sometime. I have never met anyone that has more personallity than this girl, she is unbelievable, and I only understand 20% of what she says.
IBZ
I for one really appreciate your real-time reports on Rio.
Thnks!
Carrib
Genghis Khan
03-06-06, 18:23
I will be in Rio from April 01 - April 08. Anybody else around?
GK
Rio Lover #2
03-06-06, 19:33
GK,
Unfortunately, will arrive after you.
I will be in Rio from April 22nd until May 12th.
RL
http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=S0104-83332005000200010&script=sci_arttext&tlng=pt
"Nossa Senhora da Help": sexo, turismo e deslocamento transnacional em Copacabana
"Our Lady of Help": Sex, tourism and transnational movements in Copacabana
RESUMO
A análise do turismo sexual e o tráfico das mulheres tem concentrada na subjugação das mulheres, situando-as como passivas – objetos de câmbio que são "traficados" entre universos nacionais subordinados e dominantes. Todavia, como Lévi-Strauss advém, as mulheres também são geradoras de símbolos. Baseando nossa análise em trabalhos de campo feito entre turistas sexuais e prostitutas em Copacabana, buscamos demonstrar como a capacidade feminina de criar e manipular símbolos potencializa o movimento internacional de brasileiras e de estrangeiros.
Palavras-chave: Turismo Sexual, Prostituição, Copacabana, Tráfico de Mulheres, Gringos.
ABSTRACT
Analysis of sexual tourism has concentrated on the subjugation of women as devalued objects of exchange, trafficked between dominant and subordinate national universes. As Lévi-Strauss points out, however, while often understood to be items of exchange, women are also symbol generators in their own right. It is this symbolic-generating capacity that strengthens the international movement of Brazilian women as sexualized objects of exchange. Basing our analysis on fieldwork among tourists and prostitutes in Copacabana, we seek to demonstrate how women's ability to manipulate symbols potentializes the international movement of Brazilian women and foreign men.
Key Words: Sexual Tourism, Prostitution, Copacabana, Trafficking of Women, Gringos.
Introdução
As articulações entre turismo, sexo e migração têm sido cada vez mais discutidas no mundo. Todavia, existe uma tendência nesse debate a utilizar termos de denúncia ou acusação como se fossem categorias de análise. Tal confusão expressa-se na construção da figura do turista sexual, um personagem nitidamente caracterizado nos discursos de atores envolvidos na luta contra o turismo sexual e o tráfico das mulheres no Brasil. Nestes, o turista sexual, por meio de seu suposto aliciamento predatório de meninas ingênuas, é tipicamente apresentado como um agente privilegiado na transformação de brasileiras em vítimas do tráfico internacional das mulheres. Esta visão está longe de considerar essas mulheres como agentes ativas na construção de seus destinos, assim como de contemplar qualquer noção mais nuançada sobre "o" turista sexual. E, o que é mais grave, essa procura de vítimas e vilões oculta o funcionamento das relações que constituem os nexos entre turismo internacional, migração e sexo operando na maioria das grandes cidades brasileiras.
A partir de uma pesquisa realizada em uma abordagem antropológica, nosso intuito no presente trabalho é realizar uma crítica às análises que reduzem o complexo jogo de interesses e de agentes que configuram o turismo sexual no Rio de Janeiro a uma equação simples e maniqueísta. Em particular, interessa-nos mostrar os indivíduos como atores principais dos dramas vividos na interseção entre turismo e sexo...........................
I will be in Rio from April 01 - April 08. Anybody else around?
GKGood:i hope that we'll read your amazing report like those on San Paolo;not only garotas but restaurants,culture and brazilian life.
Thanks
Its a shame a guy like Puffy can't take care of himself like (shave/dress nice/etc.) without being called gay by some and let me not forget he makes millions and NOT have so many broke jealous haters out there talking smack about them lol
The worst part is guys like Puffy are either bad mouth by either being called by some "Thugs" or "gangsters" and now they are called gay what a joke lolIf you can have gay cowboys then surely you can have gay rappers and gangsters. Indeed Reggie Kray one of the UK's most violent gangsters was gay.
IMO it's not the fact that he takes care of himself or jealously that leads people to believe he's gay. No one here questioned Will Smith's sexuality. I wonder if it's his diamond earrings and his ass fixation that makes others suspect. After all he was the one who called himself Puff Daddy. But hey it's up to him what he does in his private life. If he has the millions and can afford some rent boys (Brazilian or otherwise) who are we to criticise him? I'm certainly not jealous of that.
l am talking about me and l know some few guys on this site might feel the same but just don,t wanna say nothing.We are on this site to read and to get information about getting pussy and not about some musician,s life .Who cares if the guy is gay or what type of life style he is leading.l careless but l do listen to some of his music,but will not buy them.We need information about Brazilian pussy and nothing else about someone ,s line of clothes ,how he dress and some other bull.None of them
Ah great, it's not enough that I have to see this asshole everytime I turn to the MTV/BET hybrid channel or E, now I have to be exposed to him on a sex board too. Ah your killing me here lol!
Ok on to a more serious matter. Someone said on here recently that CBJ has become standard practice among the girls at Centaurus. I've seen a photo of guy getting a CBJ inside a termas (think it was centaurus) on here . Does anyone else think paying 310R for only 40 minutes with a girl and she is getting away with giving only a CBJ is a total rip off? That is close to 150us dollars! You can get Russian girls in Moscow that on the whole are more attractive than most of the centaurus girls photos that I have seen on here that will give bbj the entire night for the same price (150-200). What is the deal with this place anyway? It seems they give their customers the total shaft. The only reason I can think of as to why the management of this place (and the girls also) screw over their customers so often is because they get alot of repeat business. A massive boycott of this place seems to be long overdue but what is so appealing about centaurus that makes guys keep coming back?
I'm planning a stag party in rio for 8 guys or so. this will be our first time and we will be going in last week of april. How is the weather in Rio in that month. ALso if anyone could give me a good head start before we go it would be helpfull. our last stag was in Costa Rica and we couldnt ask for a better time. I`m just hoping that Rio will be the same so any pointer can help.
Thanks
The weather in Rio the last week of April should be about 80 - 85 degrees as this will be their early fall.
I have never been to Costa Rica but from what I understand if you can't ask for a better time then don't come to Rio because you're going to get one.
I'm planning a stag party in rio for 8 guys or so. this will be our first time and we will be going in last week of april. How is the weather in Rio in that month. ALso if anyone could give me a good head start before we go it would be helpfull. our last stag was in Costa Rica and we couldnt ask for a better time. I`m just hoping that Rio will be the same so any pointer can help.
Thanks
You are going to have a hell of a good party in Rio, however I would stay away from having the party on a boat. I have heard that the boat parties are a good time, but they tend to draw the attention of the police for some reason. There have been a couple of post here about the boat party busts in the past, and I have also been told about the police busting the boats while I was down in Rio.
But you can look up some of the escort services on the net and the offer party rates, for example Company Girl has a 5 girl for 600r festinhas offer.
Just a thought, for the guy that is being asked for 400r and 500r for one hour, how much since does that make when you can get 5 ladies for 600r.? I guess it is just the moment.
DD
Hi guys,
Anyone in Rio at the moment. I am here until the end of the week.
PM me and we can meet up and have a beer.
Super sir.
Ah great, it's not enough that I have to see this asshole everytime I turn to the MTV/BET hybrid channel or E, now I have to be exposed to him on a sex board too. Ah your killing me here lol!
Ok on to a more serious matter. Someone said on here recently that CBJ has become standard practice among the girls at Centaurus. I've seen a photo of guy getting a CBJ inside a termas (think it was centaurus) on here . Does anyone else think paying 310R for only 40 minutes with a girl and she is getting away with giving only a CBJ is a total rip off? That is close to 150us dollars! You can get Russian girls in Moscow that on the whole are more attractive than most of the centaurus girls photos that I have seen on here that will give bbj the entire night for the same price (150-200). What is the deal with this place anyway? It seems they give their customers the total shaft. The only reason I can think of as to why the management of this place (and the girls also) screw over their customers so often is because they get alot of repeat business. A massive boycott of this place seems to be long overdue but what is so appealing about centaurus that makes guys keep coming back?Hi,
First of all I don't think it's very wise to compare Russian girls to the Brazilian in general. And I'm not only talking about the looks, but the whole experience although Russian is the 2nd best IMHO. I visited Centaurus 4 times on my last trip to Rio. That was lots of fun and I met 2 of the girls outside during their recreation time (no payments). I never had any problems with the attitude, the bill etc in the club. Only one day, I went there after midnight and the selection was not good. That must be a busy day cause the girls looked kind of down. If you ever decide to go there, arrive early and take your time.
I know most of our fellows pretend they don't care about the following rule but; you have to treat the girls nicely. If you're in it for a GFE then you should give them a little bit of BFE. I saw some guys in the bar area who were acting so disrespectful, saucy and loud. Maybe these are the guys who get the total shaft from the club, you never know.
Andre
I'm planning a stag party in rio for 8 guys or so. this will be our first time and we will be going in last week of april. How is the weather in Rio in that month. ALso if anyone could give me a good head start before we go it would be helpfull. our last stag was in Costa Rica and we couldnt ask for a better time. I`m just hoping that Rio will be the same so any pointer can help.
ThanksTootie,
You made the right choice. Not that Costa Rica isn't a great time but it's like comparing a HS Football team to the Pittsburgh Steelers. (And just for the record I hate the Steelers) The girls in Brazil are much better looking, a lot less greedy when it comes to money, and if you're looking for GFE, Rio is the place. Come to think of it, no matter what you're looking for, Rio is the place. I use to think the Del Rey was the greatest place on Earth. 5 times I was there and in Jaco and had a great time. But after 1 trip to Rio, I'll fly the extra 8 hours everytime.
BootyTapper
03-09-06, 03:00
you are going to have a hell of a good party in rio, however i would stay away from having the party on a boat. i have heard that the boat parties are a good time, but they tend to draw the attention of the police for some reason. there have been a couple of post here about the boat party busts in the past, and i have also been told about the police busting the boats while i was down in rio.
but you can look up some of the escort services on the net and the offer party rates, for example company girl has a 5 girl for 600r festinhas offer.
just a thought, for the guy that is being asked for 400r and 500r for one hour, how much since does that make when you can get 5 ladies for 600r.? i guess it is just the moment.
ddi have been on one of the boat parties in rio and had a ball, but like you said its being watched closely. matter of fact during carnaval, on saturday, they busted a boat with lots of drugs heading out for a party. its a sensitive subject right now for the local goverment, they believe there is alot of sexual tours being arranged bringing foreigners in the country. i spoke with one local police on my last trip down and he said they are not really tripping about the tour itself, but lots of **** girls and drugs are going on the boats. also another point is all the boat busts that have happenned been by anonymous tips and calls. there is alot of jealousy in this area; you don't know if its a jealous **** girl, a competing tour company, cops just tripping...etc. i would recommed have your tour but be legal and don't advertise it because i am sure by now the police have people at all marinas on the look out.
BootyTapper
03-09-06, 03:25
Hi,
I know most of our fellows pretend they don't care about the following rule but; you have to treat the girls nicely. If you're in it for a GFE then you should give them a little bit of BFE. I saw some guys in the bar area who were acting so disrespectful, saucy and loud. Maybe these are the guys who get the total shaft from the club, you never know.
AndreAndre I don't know you but I can tell just from this statement you can hang with my boys and I ANYTIME! Alot of men are going to disagree with that rule, but its so true. I have read alot of post on this site about how prices are high, but there is away around the high price, BFE for GFE. These women maybe selling themselves, but who are we to judge and treat them like trash. This is another instance where the good ole "golden rule" really applys; treat the woman how you want to be treated. Today I have lots of good friends down there because I respect and treat the girls good.
One funny instance; I spent the night with a garota, the next morning she was leaving and telling me that she does not want to see me messing with any other girls on the beach. I get to Copa before her, she came down later, chills out on my chair and started talking to her girl friends about me. Now since I understand some Portuguese I know she was telling her girls about our night. She introduced me to her friends, we all talk, then they take off. When her friends left I asked her why would you tell your friends about me if you don't want me messing with anybody else. She said there was alot of bad rap going around about some Americans and she wanted to let her girls know that I was not one of the "bad apples". Being who I am, I had to mess with her head so I asked her why did you have to tell them just about everything that happenned, doesn't she think they will want to try some also? She said of course but her friends respect her and I am hers right now. The lesson; treat the girl right and its the best advertisement for the other garotas you want. If she doesn't personally tell them, they will see how you treat a woman, and want to experience it for themselves.
Today I was in Botafogo, normal day, normal place I go for work 3 times a week. I took the bus and the metro from Copa, to Flamengo station. I leave Flemengo metro station and turn right when exiting the station, towards Praia Botafogo. Just a normal day right? About 3 minutes down the street, I see a black tarp on the sidewalk. I could tell immediately what is was. A body. 5 minutes prior to my arrival, a person had jumped from the 8th floor.
The body is covered, as you can see, with ordinary black plastic, and held down by four rocks. Two policemen having a smoke a few meters away. No ambulance, and I did not hear a siren. About 20 people looking on. I asked if anybody thought to actually check to see if the person was actually dead? No one was sure about this. I watched the police for a few minutes. No interest at all to ask anybody if they had any info. I have a strong feeling that their were not any police in the building to see if the person was pushed or jumped. As you can see in the photos, no police tape, just a rope, strung off a motorcycle. This was not quite like we see on CSI . I do not believe any crack forensic unit was on the way to get to the bottom of this case.
I know this is not an ordinary day in Rio, but the police sure were not to concerned. I would not be surprised if this does not even make the papers tomorrow. Portuguese readers, please advise if this is in the papers tomorrow. Photos from phone, so they are not the best. If you look closely, you can see a rope around the area, and in the background a street vendor, not even paying attention to this event.
IBZ
Tootie,
You made the right choice. Not that Costa Rica isn't a great time but it's like comparing a HS Football team to the Pittsburgh Steelers. (And just for the record I hate the Steelers) The girls in Brazil are much better looking, a lot less greedy when it comes to money, and if you're looking for GFE, Rio is the place. Come to think of it, no matter what you're looking for, Rio is the place. I use to think the Del Rey was the greatest place on Earth. 5 times I was there and in Jaco and had a great time. But after 1 trip to Rio, I'll fly the extra 8 hours everytime.
I have never been to CR, however, frequently met CR mongers in Brasil during my two year stint. They often stated never to return to CR since experiencing Rio. And, yes, they do come back to Cidade de Deus. Valeu!
BootyTapper
03-09-06, 19:03
Today I was in Botafogo, normal day, normal place I go for work 3 times a week. I took the bus and the metro from Copa, to Flamengo station. I leave Flemengo metro station and turn right when exiting the station, towards Praia Botafogo. Just a normal day right? About 3 minutes down the street, I see a black tarp on the sidewalk. I could tell immediately what is was. A body. 5 minutes prior to my arrival, a person had jumped from the 8th floor.
The body is covered, as you can see, with ordinary black plastic, and held down by four rocks. Two policemen having a smoke a few meters away. No ambulance, and I did not hear a siren. About 20 people looking on. I asked if anybody thought to actually check to see if the person was actually dead? No one was sure about this. I watched the police for a few minutes. No interest at all to ask anybody if they had any info. I have a strong feeling that their were not any police in the building to see if the person was pushed or jumped. As you can see in the photos, no police tape, just a rope, strung off a motorcycle. This was not quite like we see on CSI . I do not believe any crack forensic unit was on the way to get to the bottom of this case.
I know this is not an ordinary day in Rio, but the police sure were not to concerned. I would not be surprised if this does not even make the papers tomorrow. Portuguese readers, please advise if this is in the papers tomorrow. Photos from phone, so they are not the best. If you look closely, you can see a rope around the area, and in the background a street vendor, not even paying attention to this event.
IBZI just check O Dia and O Globo online and there was nothing about this incident in them.
Last night I was invited to go to the clubhouse of the Rio Harley Dogs, MC.
I mentioned before that I had met the President of the club. The place is in Botafogo. I went at 10:00pm and it was one of the best experiences I have had in Rio in over 6 months. There were about 20 people at this clubhouse, which is a private casa, fully converted into a place about motorcycles, no beds or anything, just a great bar, a pool table room and a really cool outdoor patio BBQ. I was there about 2 hours and the whole time, they had someone cooking fresh beef on the BBQ and then moving the pieces to a smaller hot plate. This place was really cool. And right next door is a semi biker saloon, live music, southern rock style ( butchered a little bit, but I have heard worse in the states, LOL).
The members could not have been any friendlier, everyone was very nice.
This club is not about drugs and violence, as some of the US mc clubs are about. (not all clubs ofcourse)
This place was more of a bunch of friends getting together for a weekly BBQ, not hardcore at all, just friends gathering.
There were wives and girlfriends present.
I think four of the members left today for a rally in Chile, 15 days on the road, over the Andes on a MC, now that is a cool trip.
Any HD fans can PM me about this place. I will not post pictures, unless I talk to them more about this, as this is their place and not a public facility. I am there as their guest. The club is full of old and new photos of the members in various places around the world, and ofcourse motorcycles and MC chicks, Brazilian style. Just a great place to hang out, drink beer, talk shop and eat BBQ.
IBZ
I agree: DOWN WITH CENTAURUS
sloth, i agree with you about a boycott. it was a little tougher to get this boycott back when it was 3 to1, but now that its 150.00 to get a girl ,i say we start today. I will be in brazil fairly soon and will avoid the place.I will be armed with my coupons for MC and SOL to make it that much easier to not go there.For those that dont know the address: www.montecarlo.com.br and www.solarium.com.br. i think everyone should avoid darth vader that works the desk. there are to many other places that are just as good, that dont have some fucking rude **** that works the register and always wants a tip when she provides NO customer service.Isnt tipping for people that provide customer service.DOWN WITH CENTAURUS!!
Ibiza, not too sound to cruel, but unlike america, where every jesus freak thinks that the death of someone should be prayed on for 2 weeks, like praying to a fairy tale is going to change one god damn thing, these people see the reality of life everyday. Most of these people are broke and can care less if another person is dead. People die everyday around the world. its a part of life. deal with it. In 5 billion years when the sun explodes, the earth will be gone and no one will remember who the fuck you were or anyone else.Now, quit posting pictures of fucking dead people:)
What Ibiza was highlighting is how cheap life is there.
In any normal country, after that incident an emergency paramedics team would have turned up in the scene to attend the victim or certify his/her death. At the same time, the police would have started to look into the causes of his/her fall to determine whether it was a homicide, murder, suicide or an accident.
There are countries, such as Brazil or Colombia, where none of the above usually happen, where life is cheap.
BootyTapper
03-11-06, 00:14
sloth, i agree with you about a boycott. it was a little tougher to get this boycott back when it was 3 to1, but now that its 150.00 to get a girl ,i say we start today. I will be in brazil fairly soon and will avoid the place.I will be armed with my coupons for MC and SOL to make it that much easier to not go there.For those that dont know the address: www.montecarlo.com.br and www.solarium.com.br. i think everyone should avoid darth vader that works the desk. there are to many other places that are just as good, that dont have some fucking rude **** that works the register and always wants a tip when she provides NO customer service.Isnt tipping for people that provide customer service.DOWN WITH CENTAURUS!!Joe,
The website link you gave for Monte Carlo Termas is the wrong site. That link is for the jewelry store with the same name in Rio. The website for Monte Carlo is down and may be back soon. I was on it about 2 weeks ago. The address was: termasmontecarlo.com.br .
Exec Talent
03-11-06, 01:22
I mentioned this previously, I think business is already down for Centaurus. During my visits the girls were tripping over each other looking for customers. Any time I bought a drink for my girl or heaven forbid, food, the vultures began circling.
I for one never pay the entrance fee of R$310 up front. In fact, I don’t even pay the $R90 fee. I pay R$70 when I leave which is what Brazilians pay. Why should foreigners pay more?
My advice once inside is to spend some time getting to know a few girls and make arrangements with them for after hours get togethers. When a friend tried that, they repeatedly told him, “Why don’t we get a room and see how it goes. If I like you, then maybe.” I told him to stick to his guns, which he did and a girl he liked ended up going back to his apartment with him after her shift.
If all they get is the entrance fee and a few drinks, it will be hard for them to survive.
You hit it pretty much on the head. I does seem as though life is a bit cheaper here. Maybe they are used to these events, I know I am not, yet.
I asked a friend at work about 911 calls and such, she said 911 can take 15-20 minutes to answer. Emergencia, nada!
Rio is not the place you want to be requiring any emergency attention. I did check something out about this, Blue Cross/ Blue Shield has participating doctors here, private doctors, not general public doctors.
I have a very long story about spending 3 hours in a PUBLIC Brazilian emergency room one night, the hours were from 4:00 am to 7:00 am. All I can say is you DEFINITELY do not want to be in the public hospital emergency room in Rio. Oh my God.... you and 20 others stacked like wood.
I was not hurt , but I was with someone that was. I will save the full story for a rainy day, as it is part of a 8 hour drama, with many twists and turns. I can tell you that the ER doctor was really, really cute. She looked similar to Ashley Judd. ( she is the actress , right?)
IBZ
What Ibiza was highlighting is how cheap life is there.
In any normal country, after that incident an emergency paramedics team would have turned up in the scene to attend the victim or certify his/her death. At the same time, the police would have started to look into the causes of his/her fall to determine whether it was a homicide, murder, suicide or an accident.
There are countries, such as Brazil or Colombia, where none of the above usually happen, where life is cheap.
I mentioned this previously, I think business is already down for Centaurus. During my visits the girls were tripping over each other looking for customers. Any time I bought a drink for my girl or heaven forbid, food, the vultures began circling.
I for one never pay the entrance fee of R$310 up front. In fact, I don’t even pay the $R90 fee. I pay R$70 when I leave which is what Brazilians pay. Why should foreigners pay more?
My advice once inside is to spend some time getting to know a few girls and make arrangements with them for after hours get togethers. When a friend tried that, they repeatedly told him, “Why don’t we get a room and see how it goes. If I like you, then maybe.” I told him to stick to his guns, which he did and a girl he liked ended up going back to his apartment with him after her shift.
If all they get is the entrance fee and a few drinks, it will be hard for them to survive.Dead on bro! I for one have vowed never to set foot in Centaurus again (three years and counting!!!). I also noticed that most of the girls I recently met at Monte Carlo and Solarium used to work in Centaurus. When prodded on what made them bolt for 'greener" pastures, 99% of them said and I quote "Eu necessito fazer mais dinheiro".
Andre I don't know you but I can tell just from this statement you can hang with my boys and I ANYTIME! Alot of men are going to disagree with that rule, but its so true. I have read alot of post on this site about how prices are high, but there is away around the high price, BFE for GFE. These women maybe selling themselves, but who are we to judge and treat them like trash. This is another instance where the good ole "golden rule" really applys; treat the woman how you want to be treated. Today I have lots of good friends down there because I respect and treat the girls good.
One funny instance; I spent the night with a garota, the next morning she was leaving and telling me that she does not want to see me messing with any other girls on the beach. I get to Copa before her, she came down later, chills out on my chair and started talking to her girl friends about me. Now since I understand some Portuguese I know she was telling her girls about our night. She introduced me to her friends, we all talk, then they take off. When her friends left I asked her why would you tell your friends about me if you don't want me messing with anybody else. She said there was alot of bad rap going around about some Americans and she wanted to let her girls know that I was not one of the "bad apples". Being who I am, I had to mess with her head so I asked her why did you have to tell them just about everything that happenned, doesn't she think they will want to try some also? She said of course but her friends respect her and I am hers right now. The lesson; treat the girl right and its the best advertisement for the other garotas you want. If she doesn't personally tell them, they will see how you treat a woman, and want to experience it for themselves.Oh, get the hell outta here. It's people like you that ruin Rio. Who cares what the girls think? MONEY rules. The same girl you are talking about got fucked before, during, and well after you leave Rio. So why I should I care about them?
Jesus!
Ah great, it's not enough that I have to see this asshole everytime I turn to the MTV/BET hybrid channel or E, now I have to be exposed to him on a sex board too. Ah your killing me here lol!
Ok on to a more serious matter. Someone said on here recently that CBJ has become standard practice among the girls at Centaurus. I've seen a photo of guy getting a CBJ inside a termas (think it was centaurus) on here . Does anyone else think paying 310R for only 40 minutes with a girl and she is getting away with giving only a CBJ is a total rip off? That is close to 150us dollars! You can get Russian girls in Moscow that on the whole are more attractive than most of the centaurus girls photos that I have seen on here that will give bbj the entire night for the same price (150-200). What is the deal with this place anyway? It seems they give their customers the total shaft. The only reason I can think of as to why the management of this place (and the girls also) screw over their customers so often is because they get alot of repeat business. A massive boycott of this place seems to be long overdue but what is so appealing about centaurus that makes guys keep coming back?What is so appealing? NOTHING!!! It's called "THE Dumb Gringo Syndrome"
Oh, get the hell outta here. It's people like you that ruin Rio. Who cares what the girls think? MONEY rules. The same girl you are talking about got fucked before, during, and well after you leave Rio. So why I should I care about them?
Jesus!
I think the point is being missed here, I don't think anybody is advocating being nice to GDP's just because they deserve it or for anything that has to do with them. It's about using psychology and acting in such a way to get what you want. If you want to maximize your experience with these girls what people are saying here is treat them with respect and if you act like a real BFE then you will get real GFE in return. That's it, it's about taking care of yourself and knowing how to get what you want. Because if you mistreat them then you will not get what you want, you will get a rush job, lousy service and you won't be getting your money's worth and what good is that?
Not only would you get what you want, you get a GDP who is into you and making sure you not only get what you want. You get that and then some. I happen to be of that same philosopy, you treat them well and they will reciprocate in kind. It doesn't work all the time (About 95% of the time). But I'll tell you that there is nothing more fun that getting a lot more ass than you bargained with a GDP. Try it and you will almost never be disappointed with a GDP preformance.
What is so appealing? NOTHING!!! It's called "THE Dumb Gringo Syndrome"But my point is what the hell is wrong with tourists who keep returning to tourist traps like this place. There is one in every country I have ever mongered in. Moscow has Night Flight, Buenos Aires has Black's and Rio has centaurus. You would think that after a couple times around the bin they would wise up and discover other more economical places with better service but SOOO many of them just stick with the most obvious, blatant choices. I can never understand how free tourists especially Americans are with their money when they travel overseas.
BootyTapper
03-13-06, 00:51
Oh, get the hell outta here. It's people like you that ruin Rio. Who cares what the girls think? MONEY rules. The same girl you are talking about got fucked before, during, and well after you leave Rio. So why I should I care about them?
Jesus!Dollars please learn to read and comprehend!! Obviously Rio Bob and Voya got what I was saying with 1 reading! Everybody knows money rules, but if you can get more for less just because you treated the woman with respect the power is back in your court. Treating her good has very good repercussions with her, her friends, and any other garota you want that saw how you treated her. Add to that you improve the already bad image of some Americans traveling abroad. I really don't give a damn if you care about anybody, its your sorry life and karma. Its obvious just from how you fired off hire that you are one of the idiots that really fuck it up for us in Rio! You go into a country with cash and believe you can buy anything or anybody, then treat them anyhow!!
If I were a betting man, and I am! I would be thinking "dollars" is one of "kidcisco's" posting accounts. Same attitude, same way of getting post numbers up quick Ie, post nothing, just quote and add a stupid comment to somebodies post. 12 posts - zero info, caustic comments, always calls workers "*****s" or other derogatory term. Same way of emphasising posts with CAPTILALISATION as kidcisco.
On the balance of probabilities Cunlinguist is another one of Kidciscos accounts. Same deal, all he does he reply to other peoples posts and cause problems. Zero info is added. Again same way of emphasising posts with CAPTILALISATION as kidcisco.
He ads these other posting accounts to back him up when he has arguments with other members.
This is why I stated that kidcisco should be banned, he has been causing problems on all forums for 2 years now, he has had multiple accounts on all, he is the definition of a serial pest. I just noticed his posts here were deleted here, its a start.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2192&page=6&pp=
The Watcher
03-13-06, 21:47
I don't think anybody is advocating being nice to GDP's just because they deserve it or for anything that has to do with them. I hate to disagree with you Rio Bob but I advocate, and I think many others advocate, being nice to GDP's just because they deserve to be treated that way - just because a girl is a GDP does not mean that you should not treat her like a human being.
I have not addressed all the other comments on here by people who call these girls "*****s" because these comments are usually written by people whose opinions I do not respect. I, however, do respect your opinions; therefore, I just wanted to let you know that I respectfully disagree with you on this point.
If I were a betting man, and I am! I would be thinking "dollars" is one of "kidcisco's" posting accounts. Same attitude, same way of getting post numbers up quick Ie, post nothing, just quote and add a stupid comment to somebodies post. 12 posts - zero info, caustic comments, always calls workers "*****s" or other derogatory term. Same way of emphasising posts with CAPTILALISATION as kidcisco.
On the balance of probabilities Cunlinguist is another one of Kidciscos accounts. Same deal, all he does he reply to other peoples posts and cause problems. Zero info is added. Again same way of emphasising posts with CAPTILALISATION as kidcisco.
He ads these other posting accounts to back him up when he has arguments with other members.
This is why I stated that kidcisco should be banned, he has been causing problems on all forums for 2 years now, he has had multiple accounts on all, he is the definition of a serial pest. I just noticed his posts here were deleted here, its a start.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2192&page=6&pp=LOL LOL!! Your analysis is absolutley WRONG! Sorry bro, right forum, wrong dude!
Dollars please learn to read and comprehend!! Obviously Rio Bob and Voya got what I was saying with 1 reading! Everybody knows money rules, but if you can get more for less just because you treated the woman with respect the power is back in your court. Treating her good has very good repercussions with her, her friends, and any other garota you want that saw how you treated her. Add to that you improve the already bad image of some Americans traveling abroad. I really don't give a damn if you care about anybody, its your sorry life and karma. Its obvious just from how you fired off hire that you are one of the idiots that really fuck it up for us in Rio! You go into a country with cash and believe you can buy anything or anybody, then treat them anyhow!!It apparent you are one of those "Gringos" that ruin it for everone. Remember that these girls are *****s. Nothing more, nothing less. They are good at what they do and thus you think you are getting GFE when infact all she wants is your fucking money. If you think otherwise then you deserve to be "Had" by these dumb chicks.
Keep sending them money via western Union and I will keep fucking them for free so that I wouldn't have to pay them.
BootyTapper
03-14-06, 00:57
booty, you are right. the website was wrong. sorry. Why didnt i get back a email with coupons. I sent my email address to both termas and no response back. Anyone have the coupons from both places that they can post here so i can print it out. As far as the centaurus discussion goes, we really need to boycott this place.Dollars and Talent are right. they can not survive with just the entrance fee but i go one further and dont even go there and pay the 90 or 70 reals entrance fee. FUCK These people and their charge gringos more for everything attitude. We need to stop going PERIOD!! forget the 90 reals and then get the girls number for later. do it at another terma. They will drop the price eventually. The locals cant afford the room. hell, at 310, i cant afford the room.Joe I just tested the link and its back now. They have a new cover page. The website link for Monte Carlo Termas is :
www.termasmontecarlo.com.br
It works now.
Cunnilinguist
03-14-06, 02:19
If I were a betting man, and I am! I would be thinking "dollars" is one of "kidcisco's" posting accounts. Same attitude, same way of getting post numbers up quick Ie, post nothing, just quote and add a stupid comment to somebodies post. 12 posts - zero info, caustic comments, always calls workers "*****s" or other derogatory term. Same way of emphasising posts with CAPTILALISATION as kidcisco.
On the balance of probabilities Cunlinguist is another one of Kidciscos accounts. Same deal, all he does he reply to other peoples posts and cause problems. Zero info is added. Again same way of emphasising posts with CAPTILALISATION as kidcisco.
He ads these other posting accounts to back him up when he has arguments with other members.
This is why I stated that kidcisco should be banned, he has been causing problems on all forums for 2 years now, he has had multiple accounts on all, he is the definition of a serial pest. I just noticed his posts here were deleted here, its a start.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2192&page=6&pp=
Lol…..gee Bubba Boy I didn’t know that comedy was part of your repertoire.:D
I’m going to keep this short, you can come up with every conspiracy theory under the bottle, and it will never stand up to scrutiny on this nor any other forum. The facts of the matter are this:
1. You stated baseless claims against another member (Kid Cisco) on this board, I countered with factual statements (As I KNOW many members would have done for you, if baseless charges were levied against you…).
2. Your anticipated groundswell of support against Kid Cisco never materialized (Truth always triumphs lies…). Consequently your quest to ban him became nothing more than a post censure (which was more Cisco’s own doing, and NOT from any of your actions).
3. 19 days, 7 pages, and nearly 100 posts later…..you Bubba Boy without any cause nor provocation choose to write up laughable conspiracy theories. Please stick to writing your reports; it’s what your good at. Don’t start discrediting yourself chasing sauced notions.
I’m not going anywhere and neither is Kid Cisco, no matter how hard you or any other members (if any) who may side with you try. What you believe is a start, was simply the end. My posts will stand to anyone’s inquiry; your theories won’t…END OF DISCUSSION…. :cool:
I’ll be looking forward towards your 2007 “Bubba’s Report” as it makes for great reading and tips. :)
The CunningLinguist
Good, I hope this boycott works ~ maybe I will be able to go there without 10 gringos hanging around
Why don't you boycott Help, Terraco, and MP while you are at it?
Just kidding ~ Veterano
Lover Boy #2
03-14-06, 09:16
The idea of a boycott of Centaurus is a tough thing. I always swear (to myself), that I will go elsewhere. This is a good strong attitude about a place that does not deserve patronage on a few different levels. Then one day, I get weak and decide to have a look. Sometimes I get the local price, sometimes the gringo price (depending on my associates at the time of entry), I am mad before I even enter....and of course you have Medusa and the snake crew at the front desk....then the clingers on. Finally you get to the bar and holding areas....and the fact is that there are quite a few attractive women present. Now, I get really weak and make a pick. I have never had a bad time here, but I do choose carefully. Then I want to make a second choice and I get some story about 200 R upfront, before any penis makes any entry. Then I comply with this....very weak. Then sometimes I even make a third choice. Now it is time to leave....and I feel strong again, swearing that I am done with Medusa, the snakes and the interior mamasan who always bothers the girls, telling them how to move about. Then there is always that bar bill on the exit. The 5 last visits there were claims of error, a brief investigation and a half hearted apology....only to happen next time. This place does have the aire of a typical tourist trap found in many countries (as noted earlier). The big difference is that they do deliver on certain levels also (good girls, safe environment, fairly clean, cute girls, anal lovers, etc.)...that is what separates them from "typical" tourist places in other countries. I think the bottom line is if I were ever put in a position of CBJ, that might never make me weak again. If that is true...and it happens to me...the boycott is on.....because then I can be strong (or just feel like I am in a typical rip off club). Also, I really hate to have to start asking about mode of BJ...it seems very childish and almost the antithesis of actual rule, in an atmosphere like this...but it might become necessary.
Exec Talent
03-14-06, 10:02
and of course you have Medusa and the snake crew at the front desk....
LB,
I have been going to Centaurus for years and knew I had seen the woman at the front desk somewhere before and it always bothered me. Now I know. Thanks, I will sleep much better tonight.
Lover Boy #2
03-14-06, 11:30
I was thinking more like this.....very frightening.
I was there one time, and never will go back again, unless there are major changes. In nov. 2005, I entered for the first time, was not impressed with all of the hype I had read about or heard about beforehand. Paying upfront already made me uncomfortable. As soon as I enter to get my robe and sandals, I am crowded by two gals that were arguing with each other as to who was there first to greet me. They looked like two pigeons in a Mcdonalds parking lot fighting over a french frey. The dressing room was about the size of a closet. Got stepped on and elbowed by other guys trying to change clothes, while the garotas were in the way trying to help them change. For Gods sake, they are grown men, not little momas boys that need help putting on a Polo shirt.
I walked into the main area, and there was a live band playing music, not bad. The selection was not inpressive at all compared to other Termas I have visited. There were 2-3 babes, but ther rest of them, just average. I must say there were about 40-50 girls. I don't know, I guess my expectations were too high. The women were extremely agressive, which gave me the impression that they just wanted to get you in the room as quickly as possible, shoot your load, and bye.
I would talk to one, and in less than 2 minutes, they were suggesting it was time to go upstairs. Jesus, I had just finished ordering a drink. The place was packed with men that night, not all, many were loud and rude. I just did not get good vibes in that place. It just did not compare with Luomos or Solarium. I am sure there are some cool garotas in Cent., but I did not see any during my visit. Then once you add the price factor, it was a no brainer for me, I was not comming back to this place anytime soon.
For the record, I did meet one brunette, she had a nice smile and big tits, so I took her upstairs, but was somewhat dissapointed in performance. I am sure Cent. must have been a great terma a couple of years ago, but not now. I will be in Rio second week of April, and Cent. has not even crossed my mind. But I will visit other termas, thats for sure. Just my two cents..
I hate to disagree with you Rio Bob but I advocate, and I think many others advocate, being nice to GDP's just because they deserve to be treated that way - just because a girl is a GDP does not mean that you should not treat her like a human being.
I have not addressed all the other comments on here by people who call these girls "*****s" because these comments are usually written by people whose opinions I do not respect. I, however, do respect your opinions; therefore, I just wanted to let you know that I respectfully disagree with you on this point.
Im really glad you brought this up because I did generalize on this and I shouldn't have. Lets face it there are 2 sides to this, people who feel like you that you should treat all human beings with respect including GDP's as it is truly the right thing to do and it goes along with the old adage treat others like you want to be treated yourself. I myself feel more the way you do then the people here who feel the opposite way, its better to be genuine then to have to pretend.
But on the other hand if there are people here who cannot treat these girls with respect because they don't feel the way that you do and Im not one of them then how do you get them to act the way you do towards the girls. Most of the time in life it doesn't matter what the motivation is as long as you get the desired output and result. And if it is better for everybody to have the girls treated with respect then if people are doing it because they think its going to benefit them then why not.
Hi fellow mongers!
I am curious to meet some of you, Rio addicts.
I am right now in Rio Copa and if there is anyone willing to have dinner at the restaurant in front of Help, pls be my guest ( s )! I will be there every night until Saturday. Dinner on me of course.
Portuguese is my mother tongue so I feel very comfortable here.
Tavares
I am sure Cent. must have been a great terma a couple of years ago, but not now. I will be in Rio second week of April, and Cent. has not even crossed my mind. But I will visit other termas, thats for sure. Just my two cents..
Well for all the years I have been going to Rio I only went to Centaurus just a couple of years ago one time because I figured I had to go just to see what it was like.
I wasn't impressed just like you and I probably won't go back, so I guess you can call this a boycott on my part too.
The session time is 40 minutes and lets say I finished my first round at 25 minutes, well the girl gets up and gets dressed. I was shocked because in every other terma after the first round they are working on you for the second while this one was already out the door. This place deserves to be boycotted.
Last week after 2 days in Sao Paulo (see also report under Sao Paulo) I spend three days in Rio to experience again the famous Termas.
Day 1: I went to Monte Carlo at 7 pm about 15 girls of reasonable average (7-8) in quality. I went with a superb brunette called Kelly, fantastic slim body, small ass but unfortunately fake boobs. She was good in English and was the nicest in the club to my taste but a little aggressive. We went to the room where she mades a little show but then she was pushing to finish as quickly as possible. The only curiosity was her clitoris. I never saw such a big thing in my monger life. Sawing her aggressive attitude at the beginning I should have avoid going with her. This is an absolute rule. Better less nice but with GFE attitude. Further more it is quite expensive and the place is not particular friendly (entrance staff). I would avoid going to this place in the future. I will not recommend it. Total damage: 270 BRL.
Day 2: I went to Rio Centro. Reading some previous posts about Terma 502, I decided to make a visit. It was about 3:30 PM. To the contrary to the other Terma you don’t have to change yourself before entering the girls’ room. Entrance fee is very low 10 BRL. There were about 10 girls of all kind form 6 to 9. After some beers, I went with a very pretty slim brunette named Tania with small boobs, small ass: a perfect body. She has very sensitive tits. We went up to the room equipped with a shower. She was very GFE and was not in a hurry. A perfect session, with all the usual Kamasutra positions. The 40 minutes session was nearly not enough, I should have taken more to rest a little. She was so nice that I gave her a 20 BRL tips.Total damages: 125 BRL + 20 tips
It was a very positive visit. I will recommend this place because the girls act very smoothly without aggressive behaviour, they simply wait until you show some interests for her. Furthermore the prices are very reasonable. It starts at 77 BRL (girl +room). Depending the time or the kind of room (normal rooms have shower) you will pay more. All prices are visible at the entrance counter.
After this fantastic moment I went to 4X4 at 5:30. It was already very crowded. Lots of pretty girls with all kind of asses. Very impressive for a European to see all these big and round asses, I don’t like them particularly but I must admit that it is very spectacular and exciting. You can also find normal ones. Nice place to go for a drink, ut not enough privacy for me.
Day 3: L’Uomo: After an aggressive girl at Monte Carlo, I decide to take the opposite, a girl that seems to be not particularly looking for quick sex. I find a very slim girl dancing alone since quite a long time and decide to approach her. She was very friendly despite my poor knowledge of Portuguese; nevertheless we could have a good talk. We agreed for a 40 minute session. It starts not so bad. She has a nice body with small boobs and small ass. The entire preliminary was very good but when it was time to start with the Kamasutra she was completely under tension. She did not move. Apparently the final phase is not what she prefers. In these cases, I must admit the “little Jo” then to lose his tension too. So, I shorten the session.
As “little Jo” was not satisfied, after an hour break, I decide to change the strategy and to look for an average girl with a nice smile. I finally find one, her name was Eliane, fortunately she also spokes a little of French as she has worked in Switzerland. Nice blonde not really slim, with nice forms and a small but Brazilian ass. She was very friendly; we talk and flirt a lot before going to the room. There, she was very GFE. Not in a hurry. Everything was possible. I had finally a good moment with this girl at L’Uomo. Total damages 430 BRL with the 2 girls. I think it is a little too expensive compared to what you can get at the Terma 502.
In conclusion, as in all of these clubs around the world and as usual between 1 on 2 or 3 you spend a bad to an unsatisfactory moment. Admitting this risk I would really recommend the Terma 502 where the quality/ price has surely the best ratio. Girls are rather nice, rooms are clean and with shower and prices are very reasonable. I don’t understand why we have to pay so much in the other termas just to wear a bath mantel. This is just abuse. I don’t understand also how all these termas can justify their prices compare to the terma 502..Are the girls really payed as mentioned. 50BRL just to change the sheet of a bed is too much. It is also an abuse.
Finally as usual, good and less good moments are part of the job. When you are not totally satisfied the only thing is not to come again.
The only curiosity was her clitoris. I never saw such a big thing in my monger life.
Good report lacamer. Useful for me for my August visit.
How big was this girl's clitoris exactly? I know you did not measure it (or did you?! ;-))... just to get a guess. Thanks.
Rio Lover #2
03-16-06, 22:32
Will be in Rio from April 23rd and I will be staying there for 3 weeks.
After my last trip to Rio I decided that I wouldn`t go back to Centaurus again, unless they changed their policy; disregarding the fact that I always payed 70 BRL entrance fee.
It will be very difficult for me not to see anymore the always smiling, customer-minded and friendly staff at the front desk, those people I will miss the most.
Fortunately on my last trip I had great experiences in L`Uomo and 4x4, probably these two will be termas I will be staying most of the time.
Last week after 2 days in Sao Paulo (see also report under Sao Paulo) I spend three days in Rio to experience again the famous Termas.
Day 1: I went to Monte Carlo at 7 pm about 15 girls of reasonable average (7-8) in quality. I went with a superb brunette called Kelly, fantastic slim body, small ass but unfortunately fake boobs. She was good in English and was the nicest in the club to my taste but a little aggressive. We went to the room where she mades a little show but then she was pushing to finish as quickly as possible. The only curiosity was her clitoris. I never saw such a big thing in my monger life. Sawing her aggressive attitude at the beginning I should have avoid going with her. This is an absolute rule. Better less nice but with GFE attitude. Further more it is quite expensive and the place is not particular friendly (entrance staff). I would avoid going to this place in the future. I will not recommend it. Total damage: 270 BRL.
Day 2: I went to Rio Centro. Reading some previous posts about Terma 502, I decided to make a visit. It was about 3:30 PM. To the contrary to the other Terma you don’t have to change yourself before entering the girls’ room. Entrance fee is very low 10 BRL. There were about 10 girls of all kind form 6 to 9. After some beers, I went with a very pretty slim brunette named Tania with small boobs, small ass: a perfect body. She has very sensitive tits. We went up to the room equipped with a shower. She was very GFE and was not in a hurry. A perfect session, with all the usual Kamasutra positions. The 40 minutes session was nearly not enough, I should have taken more to rest a little. She was so nice that I gave her a 20 BRL tips.Total damages: 125 BRL + 20 tips
It was a very positive visit. I will recommend this place because the girls act very smoothly without aggressive behaviour, they simply wait until you show some interests for her. Furthermore the prices are very reasonable. It starts at 77 BRL (girl +room). Depending the time or the kind of room (normal rooms have shower) you will pay more. All prices are visible at the entrance counter.
After this fantastic moment I went to 4X4 at 5:30. It was already very crowded. Lots of pretty girls with all kind of asses. Very impressive for a European to see all these big and round asses, I don’t like them particularly but I must admit that it is very spectacular and exciting. You can also find normal ones. Nice place to go for a drink, ut not enough privacy for me.
Day 3: L’Uomo: After an aggressive girl at Monte Carlo, I decide to take the opposite, a girl that seems to be not particularly looking for quick sex. I find a very slim girl dancing alone since quite a long time and decide to approach her. She was very friendly despite my poor knowledge of Portuguese; nevertheless we could have a good talk. We agreed for a 40 minute session. It starts not so bad. She has a nice body with small boobs and small ass. The entire preliminary was very good but when it was time to start with the Kamasutra she was completely under tension. She did not move. Apparently the final phase is not what she prefers. In these cases, I must admit the “little Jo” then to lose his tension too. So, I shorten the session.
As “little Jo” was not satisfied, after an hour break, I decide to change the strategy and to look for an average girl with a nice smile. I finally find one, her name was Eliane, fortunately she also spokes a little of French as she has worked in Switzerland. Nice blonde not really slim, with nice forms and a small but Brazilian ass. She was very friendly; we talk and flirt a lot before going to the room. There, she was very GFE. Not in a hurry. Everything was possible. I had finally a good moment with this girl at L’Uomo. Total damages 430 BRL with the 2 girls. I think it is a little too expensive compared to what you can get at the Terma 502.
In conclusion, as in all of these clubs around the world and as usual between 1 on 2 or 3 you spend a bad to an unsatisfactory moment. Admitting this risk I would really recommend the Terma 502 where the quality/ price has surely the best ratio. Girls are rather nice, rooms are clean and with shower and prices are very reasonable. I don’t understand why we have to pay so much in the other termas just to wear a bath mantel. This is just abuse. I don’t understand also how all these termas can justify their prices compare to the terma 502..Are the girls really payed as mentioned. 50BRL just to change the sheet of a bed is too much. It is also an abuse.
Finally as usual, good and less good moments are part of the job. When you are not totally satisfied the only thing is not to come again.
One the best "get to the point" report I have read on this site. Glad to see you compare and contrast on the RIDICULOUS prices at Centaurus et al. I'm a bit glum as to how you had a bad time in MC although I'm getting tired of their high prices myself (next time ask for Samantha or Junia- you will not be disappointed).
May I suggest that you guys keep your trips to less than 1 week and hit the termas hard for 4 days. However, what else will you do with all those 5 billion vacation days workers get in Europe.
Nice report.
Ps: You might want to try Termas Cancun or Termas Bononia both in Copa with the former in centro.
I am in on the boycott as well, I only went one time in November and it was scratched off my list for good, R$310 for 40 minutes and agressive girls from the moment you arrive.
The last week has been a bit of everything that was recently talked about on the forum. Free girls and long distance dreams.
I will start with Friday of last week. A very nice girl arrives at my apartment, 3 days no charge, this was not the first time we had met, and earlier I had paid. Her situation was different from many others, she is from Petropolis and lives with mai and pai, no rent to cover, therefore , she can afford a freebie, Girls in Rio paying rent can not afford this luxury (for very long, I am not saying it does not happen, I am sure it does, but not very often) Rio girls with rent and bambinos have bills to pay, as was mentioned accurately before. For a Rio girl to hang out for free for very long, jepordizes her cash supply. If she has family for food and a casa, and no rent, the rules change.
So, I am thinking this is the "cats ass, free!" But free comes with a price, NO FREEDOM. Unlike when you get a call from a regular GDP, and you know that if you say, "Not Now", she will move on, as she assumes she will not be getting paid by you. But the world is a little different with no charge, she is more inclined to think " yes now" and pretty much whenever I think I need to come by. I really enjoyed the 3 days, but I am feeling a bit like every weekend she will be visiting. I need to find a balance so as not to choke myself, but still not fuck up a good thing. So free can mean a loss of freedom. It is much easier to just pick and choose my schedule, and my time for pleasure, and for that freedom I have to pay a cash price.
Part two - About GDP's and their foreign boyfriends. I was in the sack with a different girl, and her Europa, boyfriend was calling every 5 minutes, after sex and during a massage for me (she was literally sitting on my back, rubbing with one hand and holding the phone with the other), she took the call. "Oi amore! Blah, blah , blah, I love you, Tchau. This guy had sent money for an apartment to provide her with cash for food and rent, so she would not have to work, etc, blah , blah ...
Not all GDP's are the same, but this could be the one you are sending cash to , if you are into TRUE LOVE with a Brazilian DGP. Be careful. Or I may be in the apartment your paying for, with the love of your life, eating your food and drinking your beer, If not me, someone else. I do not mind drinking someone else's beer, just not an ISG members.
A sad note - my main massuse has headed north for 3 months and her nightly visits will be missed, fortunately, she has been replaced and all is well.
IBZ
I too won't go to Centatus during my upcoming trip untill I hear the place changes how they treat us. I would be hanging out instead at Monte Carlo and 4 X 4 and doing some incalls. By coincidence, does anyone know where Termas Cancun or Bononia are located? It would be nice to give them a try, do something a little different.
Please provide any info on these new termas in Copa and I will check them out. Are they actually new, or just new names? Any price info available?
Obrigado
IBZ
One the best "get to the point" report I have read on this site. Glad to see you compare and contrast on the RIDICULOUS prices at Centaurus et al. I'm a bit glum as to how you had a bad time in MC although I'm getting tired of their high prices myself (next time ask for Samantha or Junia- you will not be disappointed).
May I suggest that you guys keep your trips to less than 1 week and hit the termas hard for 4 days. However, what else will you do with all those 5 billion vacation days workers get in Europe.
Nice report.
Ps: You might want to try Termas Cancun or Termas Bononia both in Copa with the former in centro.
Sunset Strip
03-17-06, 15:36
here is some of the low budget stuff i have been doing during the day in rio:
i stopped by the small therma located at the corner of ave. copacabana and h. gouv. (the street monte carlo is on). it is in the building next to the mcdonalds in suite 1103.
it now costs r$80 for 30 minutes. the girls were ok for that price.
basically, this therma is a small apartment with a living room and a room in the back with cubicles where you take the girl.
they make you pay up front now, which is good because the girls may ask for a tip but you can just say you have no more money.
i also have been to the miami peep show which is at the same intersection. the girls are lazy now that their pockets ar probably fat from all of the pornos and programmas they did during carnaval.
i am a nice guy but i can see why pimps say you should "keep women broke."
last night karina (who is in the buttman carnaval videos) and sasha were just laying down in the peep both talking to each other. they totally ignored the customers and occasionally opened a buttcheek while still talking to each other. i was so mad i actually hit the screen which startled karina. i am going back today and will talk to the manager about the money i wasted on these little sluts.
tj
Robert1942
03-17-06, 20:14
I stopped by these thermas yesterday, to take a look. Av. N.S. Copacabana 588 - first one is 203 - I think 100r for 40 minuets. Quality of the girls was at best OK. The other terma is suite 204 down the hall - better quality girls, but no air conditioning - same 100r 40 minuets. Interesting too see but not my thing, so I went to MC. MC is definably going down hill from my last visit 6 month ago, not as many girls and not a good a selection and more expensive. I tried a new agency this afternoon Lindas Models http://www.imaginart.com.br/lindas/modelos.asp 100 r 2 hours and cab fare (Leme 30 r). Gisele - disappointing service and lacking in personality, otherwise looks close to the site. http://www.imaginart.com.br/lindas/gisele/ . I'll be here for a week so, if anyone wants to get together for a drink- let me know
The exchange rate sucks - two places quoted 2/1 - my ATM is giving 2.08.
Bob
Guys,
of those of you who get terma girls numbers for daytime visits to your hotel; what do you normally offer in the way of a "donation"?
I think I've offered 300BRL for a couple hours. Based upon what I am willing to pay at Help, and the relatively higher quality you would be dealing with.
Can someone please explain to me why you would send money to a girl to pay for her apt and lifestyle while you are not here for 6 months.It makes no sense. Just get her number and when you get here you can spend all your money on her. How stupid do you have to be to think a hooker will stop her job while your gone. Please people!!! lets use common sense here.Almost everygirl I spoke with has a gringo sending her money, emails, presents.
Have You people ever heard anything about "MILKCOWS", well that's you all people sending money to GDPs.
BootyTapper
03-18-06, 00:39
Can someone please explain to me why you would send money to a girl to pay for her apt and lifestyle while you are not here for 6 months.It makes no sense. Just get her number and when you get here you can spend all your money on her. How stupid do you have to be to think a hooker will stop her job while your gone. Please people!!! lets use common sense here.Joe I am with you 100% on this one. One of the first cariocas I messed with tried to pull that one on me. Matter of fact we are still cool, but I don't deal with her anymore. She used to email or call and ask for money, I never sent any money because I know this woman has many options. Even if she did not have options I was not going to send any money and start a bad precedent. A lot of guys fall for the garotas and think they will change their ways for them. They will change for how long you are in town, then that same night she is out again.
Sunset Strip
03-18-06, 23:11
i had a good time in mabs today. i think it is best not to make it your first hangout spot, however.
my girl, kezia, has totally stopped wearing panties. she did not know i was here but showed up today with no drawers on and a short red skirt. she flashed that little **** all over mabs in broad daylight.
there was one guy sitting near who i could tell was wishing he could get a peek. sorry dude, you should have changed seats!
tj
Rio Lover #2
03-19-06, 10:25
Bobo5 and Bootytapper,
Couldn`t agree more with you guys. I have also heard often those stories about foreigners sending money to garotas.
I feel sad for the guys who send their money, just because they think that their girl stopped working because of them.
I have been asked also by girls to support them financially when I am overseas, I have always declined.
RL
Sunset Strip
03-19-06, 16:18
I also think guys send money for other reasons. One, is that some guys, and I have been guilty of this, want to just maintain some connection to Rio. Sometimes you really want to make somebody else feel good and think about you because truth be told you are thinking about them, too.
Another reason, and again I have done this, is to send some money to just be nice. Although I monger I am also a Chrisitian and believe that giving from the heart will always be rewarded.
(This does not entail ALWAYS paying somebody's rent, but I have given money when the request seemed reasonable and circumstantial).
And yes, I have been taken advantage of. The last time being about 8 hours ago when a woman who I gave R$40 to buy something for one of my girls never returned.
And last, I, like some others, would REALLY like to find a real love in Rio. Perhaps it will happen. But love is not about money, so anybody who correlates sending money to girls with finding love is mistaken. You would do better to think about it the way I do. Either help if you can and want to maintain a connection in Rio or out of compassion with no expectation of receiving anything in return. Otherwise you may, and probably will, get hurt.
TJ
Since I got a experiance from my pat 1.5-year stay in Copacabana and parts of Brazil I must tell that many of those garotas are with a long-term relationship to a foreigner. These guys are working most likely in offshore or onshore in the oil and gas exploration business. Even then the girls intend to keep their way of lifes upright and still make program in the redlight districts. Even then they intend to cheat her partner, go out with others and rudely ask later for money sending e.g. by Western Union services justz to spend it into clothings, cell phones and perfume bottles.
Think twice about what you are doing.
You should not have to pay more than 200 max, but if she is really interesting and you just have to do it, 250 max for 2 hours. My 2 cents, from many experiences. Negotiate .....
I have been quoted from 200 - 400 , I just choose not to deal with those above 250, but , please feel free to pay more, this is just my guideline and I would never tell anyone what is a good price for them, as every situation is different. And Taxi fare does come into play.
One time a Terma girl came to my apartment in Copa, from past Tijuca ( past centro ) on a motor taxi - which is a motorcycle taxi, locals only. it was easily 30 minutes on a MC, and then the bus home. There were actually two girls and one male driver (3 some) on the MC the whole way. Locals are very good at spending the least amount of money possible to do everything. I personally do not know how to go about getting a MC taxi, but it is available if you know how to do it.
On the other hand I met a girl in Help that claimed she needed more money, a total of R$400 to cover her $R100 taxi fare from Niteroi, and back. If she would take the bus for $R4, she could lower her fee and actually be busy.
IBZ
Guys,
of those of you who get terma girls numbers for daytime visits to your hotel; what do you normally offer in the way of a "donation"?
I think I've offered 300BRL for a couple hours. Based upon what I am willing to pay at Help, and the relatively higher quality you would be dealing with.
I think I've offered 300BRL for a couple hours. Based upon what I am willing to pay at Help, and the relatively higher quality you would be dealing with.OMG!!! $R300!! Hem, hem, hem.. I will save my energy for the tongue lashing I was about to lay on your ass. Why in God's name will you pay $R300 for "day" action?
Sunset Strip
03-19-06, 23:26
If paying R$200 or more (and yes 250 should be max.) then make sure she stays the FULL 2 hours! Lately many of these girls have started getting up and trying to leave as soon as you cum.
In most cases you could care less if you paid R$100, but anything more deserves more respect than that, espcially in the 200 range.
I do not know how you can go about doing it, but make it clear that she is going to stay the entire agreed upon time.
And in my experience I usually pay less during the day and late at night. During the day girls plan on getting more money later on and when it is late she just wants to make some money.
So during either of these times I would usually only pay R$150-R$200 max.
TJ
Please provide any info on these new termas in Copa and I will check them out. Are they actually new, or just new names? Any price info available?
Obrigado
IBZTermas Bononia is on 36 Ave Ministro Alfrado Valadao. The girls range from 5's to 8's
Termas Cancun was started by one of the co-owners of 4x4. It's located on 64 Rua do Carmo located in centro (best bet is to use the metro). Similar to 4x4, the girls range from 7's to 9's (yes you heard me: 9's)
Today my friend Paula was visiting and asked to use my internet to check her email. Several have checked email here, and every one of them has a string of emails from Non Brasilian amores.
All of them that I have seen using hotmail, etc, really work the email with foreigners, and how many of these guys think they are the Special One? Alot.
Brasil is loaded with beautiful , non GDP girls. If you want to fall in love, just join the internet dating sites for Brasil. I have a gringo friend, he lives in Rio, that gets 20 emails a week, from regular girls in Rio and Sao Paulo, and these girls are cute. He is just back from a 2 week tour of Brasil with girls in all kinds of cities. Many local girls do not care for Brasilian guys. I do not know exactly why, but I have some thoughts on this.
So if you want to fall in love, email 60 girls in Sao Paulo, 20 will probably reply. And go to Sao Paulo for 2 weeks, screw your brains out, and fall in love. it will cost less than 10 days in Rio, and you might hit a home run.
With some of these girls my friend is very blunt, he expects sex to occur either initially or very shortly after meeting, and he gets tons of replies. I am amazed how easy it is. But you have to travel or stay in Sao Paulo, there are many less, "He says" in Rio.
Good luck in your searches.
IBZ
Both of you guys rock!
You both bring some much needed wisdom to this area.
One terma girl (tg) became a bit of a namorada of mine, a year ago. We kept e-mail contact for 6 mos. And when I returned, she rented us a car, and we went to Buzios for the weekend. She's been going there since childhood, and knows it well. She introduced me to friends. I had one of the best times of my life.
Yes, I bought her some clothes...and she rocked my world on the veranda of our pousada at sunset. I paid for all the meals...and she dealt with the Policia Militar, that stopped us in a bloqueio on the way back. I bought her 6 y.o. a gas powered little toy car...and she refused cash the last afternoon/evening we were together. She is a kind gal (and so freakin' sexy)... BUT!!!...
The whole thing stopped quickly when she started e-mailing for cash.
If our relationship were a BIT different, MIGHT I occasionally send her something? Sure, if I felt like it.
So, it's off to Rio on the 23rd. Off to the termas to find the next "girlfriend(s)". $200, it will be, for a standard 2 hours. And if we are hittin it off after a few hours, who knows?
I plan to do more out call. It would be great to find a little "prize" for 100R at noon. If anyone has any specific recommendations, they would be appreciated. I went out to "Karlas", in Tijuca to scope the book last time. Had one experience that would be a "7". I think Karlas might be the most reliable? And, "gpguia" isn't a lot of help for the Rio scene. I gleaned about 4 good reviews and the relevant links.
The escort scene in S.P. is so much more a "feeding frenzy".
If anyone will be around/ about between 3/23 & 4/9, lemme know. Maybe a "chopp" at "the office" ( a "secretaria" Atlantica).
I visited Termas Cancun when I was in Rio this past December and there were some stunningly beautiful hotties there. A Brazillian monger told me about this place and when I got there it was like wow!!....girls ranged from 7-9.5 including this tall asian/brazilian mixed babe that I wanted to sample but she was with another Brazillian monger so didnt get the chance.
Its been quite awhile since I posted here but I may have to leave rio alone for awhile...300R for 2 hours!!..wow.I remember not too long ago I paid 400R for a dupla with 2 girls from 4X4 for all night and I thought I was overpaying. last year around this time, we invited some GDPs from Solarium for a fiesta...to make a long story short--they arrive, see nice apt...and promptly ask for 500R for the night.HUH? one of them calmly explained well u pay 150R for 40 mins at the termas....they were quickly shown the door. The only reason why Rio has not turned into a Costa Rica where every skank asks for CIEN! is the sheer number of GDPs and options. If u must pay a premium--then go upscale. Sampa and Barbella girls are beginning to sound like a bargain. Scortshow and other agencies are charging 100R for two hours..and they will bring u a book.
The other reason why I suspect prices are rising, other than the fact that so many are willingly paying whatever the girls ask is: WESTERN UNION. I cant tell you how many women I've met over the years who have guys sending them money and they were still hooking. These girls then can ask for 300-500 reals and go home if they dont get it because of their sugar daddies.
Here are two GDPs that some of u may know..The first is Diana who has been around for quite some time now, she speaks very good english and has been able to get many a monger to send her money. i first met Diana a few years back as evidenced by this very old pic--but by GDP standards, she has been able to maintain her figure and she is very in good in bed. Over the years I've watched her operate with many mongers at help/the beach and meia pattacca. She has broken some hearts including a monger who never went back to Brazil after he learned that his sweetie was still in the game. Last I heard Diana was engaged to a monger from California, but she had no intention of going. she was going to try and milk him for as much money and open a beauty salon in Rio. Now she never goes for less R300 so I hear...
The second, I forgot her name but when I met her she had just returned from europe seeing her boyfriend. Well she was back on the block when I met her in from of the Othon hotel. She told me that she was busy since this guy had paid her 600R for the week..this was a few years (2000?) ago so back then it was still considered a big deal. She ended at my apt for $100 for 2 hours, the other guy called while I was in midstroke and she told him that she had to check on her baby. The next day I saw both walking hand in hand on avenida atlantica and she gave me this nevous smile/wink and looked away..
If u fall in love with a GDP that is your choice, but dont get upset if u see her pic plastered here or any other site with some guy's cock in her mouth. Want to fall in love? learn some portuguese and go hang out at some regular clubs.
Here are two GDPs that some of u may know..The first is Diana who has been around for quite some time now, she speaks very good english and has been able to get many a monger to send her money. i first met Diana a few years back as evidenced by this very old pic--but by GDP standards, she has been able to maintain her figure and she is very in good in bed. Over the years I've watched her operate with many mongers at help/the beach and meia pattacca. She has broken some hearts including a monger who never went back to Brazil after he learned that his sweetie was still in the game. Last I heard Diana was engaged to a monger from California, but she had no intention of going. she was going to try and milk him for as much money and open a beauty salon in Rio. Now she never goes for less R300 so I hear...
If u fall in love with a GDP that is your choice, but dont get upset if u see her pic plastered here or any other site with some guy's cock in her mouth. Want to fall in love? learn some portuguese and go hang out at some regular clubs.
I know Diaine. Met her back in 2003 this very week. She was always saying "negotiations baby". In fact I gave her the Nickname (Dirty Diaine) for that reason. I had fun with her on that trip. The exchange was 3.70 to a dollar back then. I remember she gave me her business card at MP. I spent a couple of nights with her. The most I have ever given a GDP is R250.00 for the night and she was that girl. I went her apartment a couple of times. Two bedroom where she had 4 other girls staying with her and her dog. All the other girls slept in one bed. When ever I see her in Help she is selling another guy the GF dream. Always tries to make guys believe she is really into them. After that trip I never took her again. I think she was pretty new to the game back then, but still quite cunning. When I saw her last year she told me the same story about getting married. All I could think was poor guy! She's a stone cold GDP and will be for life. I am with you Carrib. If you are going fall in love, learn some Portuguese and hang out away from Copacabana. Sorry for the size of the photos. Originals in storage.
RonnyRon
I am happy to report that I am officially a fan of Vit _ V. I never used before Rio, but to fully appreciate Rio you need to have endurance..
I have been using 1/2 ( I bite in half) 50 mg tablets, seems about right.
Does cause one small problem, delayed release.
Due to the delays in release, I have been accused lately of causing lockjaw on a few GPD's. I am also reminded that I could be promoting carpell (sp) tunnel syndrome for a few as well. :-)
As is normal with GDP's , we want maximum oral time, they prefer minimum oral time. We want to pay zero and they want $R400, so we settle on $R200, we have opposite goals, but are usually able to meet in middle.
IBZ
Want to fall in love? learn some portuguese and go hang out at some regular clubs.
I agree with you 100%, but actually, I think these stories are great, especially for newbies who are going to Brasil for their first time. In the last couple of days we've had guys admit sending money and gifts to GdP's while they are still hooking, and we now have another guy on the General Info board who thinks he may have gotten a terma girl pregnant, and wondering if she should get tested (yes, you BOTH should get tested, but I'm not talking about a pregnancy test). Anyways, my advice to newbies would be to read these posts, and to do the exact OPPOSITE of what guys here are doing.
It reminds me of that Seinfeld episode where George does the exact opposite of every instinct he has, and his life improves greatly.
Exec Talent
03-20-06, 14:52
I certainly know of situations where a GDP gave her heart, stopped working only to find out he had a girlfriend or worse a wife and family at home.
I also know of quite a few guys who have successfully married former GDPs. However, the guys usually were ones who:
• picked the right girl, not one of the hard-core money grabbers
• were not desperate for companionship and had no problem meeting and having relationships with women in their home country
• treat women well
• were serious about the relationship were not just looking for free sex and stopped seeing other women
• had enough money so that they did not miss the money they sent to Brazil
• understood the challenges of having a relationship with someone from another country
• have relationships with the girl’s family and non-pro friends
• know how to recognize the signs that a girl is still working
The idea that guys (particularly from America where most people struggle with English) will learn Portuguese and meet regular girls here is absurd. I can count on one hand the number of Americans I have met who speak Portuguese.
Brazilian women are not just good actresses. They actually are changelings, who are exceptional at perceiving what men want and adapting to meet their desires. Be aware, be smart, be equipped with knowledge but don't be so afraid that you might miss out on one of life's greatest experiences.
I spend the past 10 days in Rio and most evenings at my favorite Terma centaurus. The recent posts regarding boycutting centaurus have been interesting reading as I really enjoy my time there, but I guess this is a very subjective matter.
The downside to Centaurus in my opinion is:
• Prices are somewhat higher than other Termas.
• Some of the staff can be rude and annoying.
• Atmosphere can be hectic and girls in a bit of a hurry – especially when the house is full
The positives in my opinion are:
• Best looking girls on average, with the highest numbers of 8ths and above
• Best rooms and facilities
• Aggressive girls – I know people will disagree on this one. But I like having girls try to chat me up while I am relaxing. I always grab a feel and a few kisses before they move on.
• Most if not all girls are available for outside fun during the day or after work.
I went with app. 15 of the girls during my visit and have the following recommendations:
Name description looks/sex/attitude
Luma - morena with a big tattoo on her ass – 8/9/10 – fabulous after sex massage
Maisa – short, very firm body, cutie – 10/8/8 – her body is so perfect, but she is not very tall
Bia – lovely morena – 9/8/8
Ciara – funny, crazy girl, fake blond, very firm body – 8/9/8 – likes to talk during sex
Luiza – quiet, beautiful morena – 9/7/8
Pietra – beautiful fake blond, fake tits, fabulous laugh – 9/8/10 – her cousin also works there.
Patricia – beautiful black girl – 8/9/8
Elena – very firm fake blond, excellent BBBJ – 8/9/8 – I have know her for a while, solid performance
Giselle – real blond from Florianopolis, solid performance – 9/9/9
Plus a few more either not worth mentioning or whose name escapes me.
With only one exception I got BBBJ from all girls (she is not the list). But one of the girls mentioned that she only does BBBJ on guys whose dicks are clean and does not smell bad – so remember to take a shower when you arrive.
My best advice for a good time at centaurs or any other terma for that matter is to treat the girls well, make them laugh and act like a gentleman.
Interesting thread.
On my recent trip I called my long time favourite from Centaurus who has now stopping working there after a 2 year stint as she is living with a local guy now.
Initially she told me that she no longer works and is living with a boyfriend who treats her and her daughter really well – Damn. The following day she calls me and suggests she come to my hotel for old times sakes and quotes me a price. I accept and we have several excellent sessions during my stay.
She is a really nice and beautiful girl. I could easily fall in love with her and be a target for “the please send money” scheme. She does not drink, smoke or do drugs and is an all round nice person and good company. But the opportunity to make easy money with no risk of getting caught by her boyfriend was too appealing – or maybe it was my dashing looks and great sexual skills she graved.
It just shows how tempting it is for a working girl to revert to her old habits.
Luomo:
Still a good and fun place. Fewer stunners than centaurus. Ingrid is still around, but unfortunately Duda has gone.
4x4:
I went and left quickly. The main room is so dark it is impossible to see whether a girl is attractive or not. Very busy place with many locals and tourists.
65:
I went and left quickly. Fairly quiet place with only a few doable girls, but they were busy.
Few, if any tourist.
Where can I buy the blue pill in Rio?
I know Diaine. Met her back in 2003 this very week. She was always saying "negotiations baby". In fact I gave her the Nickname (Dirty Diaine) for that reason. I had fun with her on that trip. The exchange was 3.70 to a dollar back then. I remember she gave me her business card at MP. I spent a couple of nights with her. The most I have ever given a GDP is R250.00 for the night and she was that girl. I went her apartment a couple of times. Two bedroom where she had 4 other girls staying with her and her dog. All the other girls slept in one bed. When ever I see her in Help she is selling another guy the GF dream. Always tries to make guys believe she is really into them. After that trip I never took her again. I think she was pretty new to the game back then, but still quite cunning. When I saw her last year she told me the same story about getting married. All I could think was poor guy! She's a stone cold GDP and will be for life. I am with you Carrib. If you are going fall in love, learn some Portuguese and hang out away from Copacabana. Sorry for the size of the photos. Originals in storage.
RonnyRon
I know "Dirty Diana" too. Hell, I think every brotha who has been to Copa knows Diana. She did get married and went to the states back in November. 3 guesses where she spent her last night in Brasil:-) I recently saw her in the airport, the first week of Feb 06, I was positive that I was going to see her that night in Help, but she didnt show up for my entire 2 week trip.
You guys are right about Diana, she was the greatest hustler to ever hit Rio. She had up to 7 guys at one time all sending her money, so she wouldnt have to work!! (Lawyers, doctors, even an airline pilot) Guys who should have been intelligent enough not to fall for her game! There will never be another like her.
ET - you are right about the language, my buddy speaks good portuguese, but he told me that whenever a profile says she speaks english, he always sends his intro in English. The pool is smaller, but still available, at least in SP. Knowing any amount of Portuguese wil greatly improve your success. I am sure I do not know 300 words in Portuguese, but I can get by. Food, taxi, shopping, bus, metro and amore. I now have a new neighbor that is very cute who speaks, Portuguese (native) German, Italian, and very good English, and is providing Portuguese lessons for me at 10 reals per hour. The language schools charge between R$60-80 per hour. Hopefully I will be at the 3rd grade level soon.
And you are right to mention the other side of the coin, as the girls can get the short end of the stick as well.
IBZ
I certainly know of situations where a GDP gave her heart, stopped working only to find out he had a girlfriend or worse a wife and family at home.
I also know of quite a few guys who have successfully married former GDPs. However, the guys usually were ones who:
• picked the right girl, not one of the hard-core money grabbers
• were not desperate for companionship and had no problem meeting and having relationships with women in their home country
• treat women well
• were serious about the relationship were not just looking for free sex and stopped seeing other women
• had enough money so that they did not miss the money they sent to Brazil
• understood the challenges of having a relationship with someone from another country
• have relationships with the girl’s family and non-pro friends
• know how to recognize the signs that a girl is still working
The idea that guys (particularly from America where most people struggle with English) will learn Portuguese and meet regular girls here is absurd. I can count on one hand the number of Americans I have met who speak Portuguese.
Brazilian women are not just good actresses. They actually are changelings, who are exceptional at perceiving what men want and adapting to meet their desires. Be aware, be smart, be equipped with knowledge but don't be so afraid that you might miss out on one of life's greatest experiences.
The idea that guys (particularly from America where most people struggle with English) will learn Portuguese and meet regular girls here is absurd. I can count on one hand the number of Americans I have met who speak Portuguese.
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I agree with everything u said, as I've also met more than my share of sweet Brazillian women. Yes, they also have feelings and do occasionally fall in love. But personally, I can only travel 3-4 times a year max, so I cant see building a relationship with someone I can only see four times a year. (Some of these trips are non-mongering trips)
I beg to differ with the above quote, as I know quite a few americans who are actually fluent in Portuguese. One of them a buddy of mine who currently lives in Rio, introduced me to some very nice regular hotties. I spent a month in Brazil a few years back and took a portuguese class. I am not fluent, but I can carry a basic conversation. I can read OGLOBO and understand what I am reading, go on qpguia.net and read reviews on termas, hotside GDPs. I can understand some brazillians better than others depending where they are from, educational background and how much slang they use. Women from Cabo Frio are especially a challenge....
so guys..if u are going to travel to a country on a regular basis...make an effort to know something about the history, culture and language of its people. So when u are in invited to dinner with some regular hotties u have something to talk about other than places in copa. Yes, u can learn the language, PIMSLEUR, Rosetta stone are good options....Suerte!!!
Where can I buy the blue pill in Rio?Any drug store in Rio. Just go to the counter and ask for Viagara. Either 40 mgs or 80 mgs. The 40's are about $12 american each but you can only by them in 4 packs. I'm not sure of the price on the 80's. Not that I ever used the stuff :o). I know your laughing Ibizia. God I miss Rio. Can someone ge me fired from my job so I can take a vacation.
They come in 50mg and 100mg. 4 pills per package.
50mg range in price from R80 to R90
100mg range from R120 to R140. Some stores will quote R175. Just go to another, you will find them in the "correct price" range. The 100mg are more economical, just break off a tiny piece. I can get 8 good shots out of 1 100mg tablets. I do this to save cash and I don't particularly want to take more of any drug than is nessary. A whole 100mg can't be good for the heart.
In Porto: Voce tem viagra? (You have viagra?).
(Pronunciation:Vorsay teng ve-agra)
Carlos Primeros
03-21-06, 21:06
Pharmacia do Leme (Nossa Sn. da Copacabana) next to Barbarela charges for 4x100 mg 132 RS.
Carlos
Pharmacia do Leme (Nossa Sn. da Copacabana) next to Barbarela charges for 4x100 mg 132 RS.
Carlos
May I suggest a different route for purchasing such things, try this site they will send you the 100 mg for less than $3 each, you will need to purchase about 30 of them. http://www.xlpharmacy.com/index.php?img=4&kbid=1143&sub=7generic+viagra
Cunnilinguist
03-21-06, 22:33
May I suggest a different route for purchasing such things, try this site they will send you the 100 mg for less than $3 each, you will need to purchase about 30 of them. http://www.xlpharmacy.com/index.php?img=4&kbid=1143&sub=7generic+viagraHi Rio Bob
Thanks for the info, from experience; how do the generics compare to the brand -names? Yes, I read their info, but I want to hear about the performance differences (if any) from someone (or anyone else) who has used both.
Thank you,
CL
When was the last time you were there ( Bononia)?
What is the nearest metro to Cancun?
Thanks
IBZ
Termas Bononia is on 36 Ave Ministro Alfrado Valadao. The girls range from 5's to 8's
Termas Cancun was started by one of the co-owners of 4x4. It's located on 64 Rua do Carmo located in centro (best bet is to use the metro). Similar to 4x4, the girls range from 7's to 9's (yes you heard me: 9's)
Termas Bononia was closed down a while ago. I don't know if they reopened it but as far as I know it is still closed.
Termas Cancun in the other hand is banging, they have imported some of the best talent from Club Praia 400 and other termas as well.
I think that there is gonna be a party march 30.
Hope I could help
One Wing Low
03-22-06, 16:32
So many pharmacies online are just scams, shipping counterfeits.
Did you try this site and confirm they ship good generics?
Last time I bought Cialis in Rio, it was about 20 reais a pill. One pill and I had a raised tent in my pants for the whole weekend.
OTH I am not aware that brand names like Viagra, Cialis, Levitra have allowed other MFR to produce generics. So these pills are really counterfeits of the brand name drugs.
May I suggest a different route for purchasing such things, try this site they will send you the 100 mg for less than $3 each, you will need to purchase about 30 of them. http://www.xlpharmacy.com/index.php?img=4&kbid=1143&sub=7generic+viagra
Cunnilinguist
03-22-06, 18:44
When was the last time you were there ( Bononia)?
What is the nearest metro to Cancun?
Thanks
IBZOla Ibiza
Great reports, have enjoyed reading them; enjoy the rest of your stay in Rio. :)
Nearest metro to Cancun (and 4x4, Termas 65, 21, & 502 for that matter...) is Uruguaiana.
Small map attached for guidance
Have some additional info that maybe helpful for you, please PM me if interested.
Obrigado
CL
Trendy Andy
03-22-06, 18:45
Language is important, but not that important you think about.
I remember my trip to Rio, was in several regular club. Speak no portuguese as well but my spanish is o.k.
The regular are frequented by middle/upper class people. They do not need money from foreigners. Why should they be with gringos?
I´m blond, green-eyed, tall, very sporty - good looking. Why did I not scored on regular girls? In Rio, more than in any other brazilian town, no honest girl will be in companionship with foreigners wich spend a few days on vacation there. That´s a stigma. Semi-pros do not care about this. They do not have familys or friends in Rio.
So many pharmacies online are just scams, shipping counterfeits.
Did you try this site and confirm they ship good generics?
Last time I bought Cialis in Rio, it was about 20 reais a pill. One pill and I had a raised tent in my pants for the whole weekend.
OTH I am not aware that brand names like Viagra, Cialis, Levitra have allowed other MFR to produce generics. So these pills are really counterfeits of the brand name drugs.
Try it you'll like it.
The regular are frequented by middle/upper class people. They do not need money from foreigners. Why should they be with gringos?
I´m blond, green-eyed, tall, very sporty - good looking. Why did I not scored on regular girls? In Rio, more than in any other brazilian town, no honest girl will be in companionship with foreigners wich spend a few days on vacation there. That´s a stigma. Semi-pros do not care about this. They do not have familys or friends in Rio.I would disagree. I dated a lawyer when I was in Rio, she was a member of Nuth and had no qualms about taking me there. My friend is married to a woman from a very wealthy Rio family. Neither of us look like locals. IMO Brazilians are very tuned into class differences and don't need to see a woman with/without a gringo to have a fair idea of whether she's is a pro or not.
FWIW upper class Patricinhas think everyone is beneath them when it comes to dating including most Brazilians. Given a lot of them are spoilt, vacuous creatures this is not too big a deal. What you're probably looking to meet is a professional from a middle class family. Even these with decent jobs (for Brasil) may not have the funds to be out in Baronetti etc. So what I would say is that Rio can seem tougher than say SP to score with regular girls rather than pros/semi-pros because it has a relatively small middle class.
Language is important, but not that important you think about.
I remember my trip to Rio, was in several regular club. Speak no portuguese as well but my spanish is o.k.
The regular are frequented by middle/upper class people. They do not need money from foreigners. Why should they be with gringos?
I´m blond, green-eyed, tall, very sporty - good looking. Why did I not scored on regular girls? In Rio, more than in any other brazilian town, no honest girl will be in companionship with foreigners wich spend a few days on vacation there. That´s a stigma. Semi-pros do not care about this. They do not have familys or friends in Rio.
Can you dance? That might be a reason why you strike out at regular clubs.
I must be really lucky, because I have had the exact opposite experience. Ive met dozens of regular girls who have wanted to hang out. I just dont have the time for the drama that comes with them, I would rather deal with the terma and Help girls.
Hi Rio Bob
Thanks for the info, from experience; how do the generics compare to the brand -names? Yes, I read their info, but I want to hear about the performance differences (if any) from someone (or anyone else) who has used both.
Thank you,
CL
I think the generics are like Hi Test and the brand is like regular, go figure.
When was the last time you were there ( Bononia)?
What is the nearest metro to Cancun?
Thanks
IBZIbiza,
Take a cab to 4x4 and walk down to Termas 65, Termas Cancun should be a block or two away. They have the best girls in town right now but like every Termas in Centro, enjoy while the best are still hungry.
Let us know how the girls rate.
Royalflush
03-23-06, 16:02
This site only sells brand name products and provides an explanation of why they don't sell generics. Has Cialus as well as Viagra. Lots of other products, including Human Growth Hormone (HGH), if you're into that sort of thing.
http://www.consumersdiscountrx.com/orderpage
I spoke with the porteros across the street and they confirmed it has been closed for two to three months.
Obrigado
Termas Bononia was closed down a while ago. I don't know if they reopened it but as far as I know it is still closed.
Termas Cancun in the other hand is banging, they have imported some of the best talent from Club Praia 400 and other termas as well.
I think that there is gonna be a party march 30.
Hope I could help
Found Suzy in L'uomo's last Monday after a two year absence. She's been in Fortaleza. She is not a stunner, no titties, big Brazilian ass, nice face but not great, a bottle blonde. She will be GFE in the cabina, however. Very down-to-earth, laid back, will give you value for your money. She will do everything for you, just ask nicely, even come to your hotel after work with no discussions of money. Phone her before she goes to work at 4 on weekdays at 21-8235-2274 for a date. I like the way she takes your hand, puts it between her legs the way she likes, crosses her legs to lock it there, and grinds away till she comes on your hand---soooo sexy. Treat her nice-she has a lot of fear issues. By the way, the total damage was R$250.00 and I did not drink anything.
L'uomo's is getting out of my range.
Truant
BootyTapper
03-23-06, 23:52
Found Suzy in L'uomo's last Monday after a two year absence. She's been in Fortaleza. She is not a stunner, no titties, big Brazilian ass, nice face but not great, a bottle blonde. She will be GFE in the cabina, however. Very down-to-earth, laid back, will give you value for your money. She will do everything for you, just ask nicely, even come to your hotel after work with no discussions of money. Phone her before she goes to work at 4 on weekdays at 21-8235-2274 for a date. I like the way she takes your hand, puts it between her legs the way she likes, crosses her legs to lock it there, and grinds away till she comes on your hand---soooo sexy. Treat her nice-she has a lot of fear issues. By the way, the total damage was R$250.00 and I did not drink anything.
L'uomo's is getting out of my range.
TruantAll the years I have been to Rio I never tried a termas. After reading all these post and seeing the pics, I have to explore them on my next trip. Think I will start with Monte Carlo first since its closest to the crib.
Royalflush
03-24-06, 00:56
The site has you fill out an online questionaire, which is immediately reviewed by a physician. Then they approve the order. There is no need to go to your own doctor for a prescription. When you place an order you are walked through the process. They keep a record on file so the next time you order you don't have to fill out the questionaire again. All sites, at least in the US. work the same way.
Melissa - All is well, and she is as nice and pleasant as ever.
The terma next to McDonalds in Copa is not on my recommend list ( on the same street as terma MC). The main room for action is one bedroom with cheap dividers that do not reach the ceiling, so you can hear your neighbor, The total room is 15 x 10 feet and they made 3 cabinas out of it. The room sucks, the girls are Ok, but for the same or less money go to an Princess Isabella MP. Each unit is literally 4-5 ft wide, no more, and 10 ft long.
Before 5 pm , entrance fee at 4x4 is waived is you go upstairs, Nice. Uma hora R$170 total. Best deal in Rio, for a terma.
TJ Fanatic provided very good directions to this copa MP near McD's . The cabinas are terrible....
IBZ
The next building over from me ( about 40 meters) is on fire, the building is drectly across the street from the Princess copacabana, I see alot of people on the balcony's taking pictures. Fire is on about the 7th floor. I have little time now, but I will post a picture later. I had to lean out my window to get apicture, as the fire is in the bulding on the same side as mine. Flames shooting out the window, and small debris falling.
It appears the fire is out, as I could see the flames in the reflections on the windows across the street. Rio fire department to the rescue, they did a good job.
IBZ
BootyTapper
03-25-06, 00:36
Melissa - All is well, and she is as nice and pleasant as ever.
The terma next to McDonalds in Copa is not on my recommend list ( on the same street as terma MC). The main room for action is one bedroom with cheap dividers that do not reach the ceiling, so you can hear your neighbor, The total room is 15 x 10 feet and they made 3 cabinas out of it. The room sucks, the girls are Ok, but for the same or less money go to an Princess Isabella MP. Each unit is literally 4-5 ft wide, no more, and 10 ft long.
Before 5 pm , entrance fee at 4x4 is waived is you go upstairs, Nice. Uma hora R$170 total. Best deal in Rio, for a terma.
TJ Fanatic provided very good directions to this copa MP near McD's . The cabinas are terrible.
IBZIbiza I was telling my boy I usually run to Rio with about that termas next to Mc Donalds and he was tripping. He has been to Rio MANY times, we eat at that Mc Donalds all the time, and never knew that termas was right there. Thanks for the info about the rooms. We plan to hit Monte Carlo first, then head down town to 4x4 and Cancun. Its funny, I was just reading O Dia online, the sports section, and what ad pops open on the page. Termas Cancun.
In the news on Wednesday and maybe Thursday were some articles about the police being on strike and making several arrests of people at centro termas. Not sure how "On stike and making arrests go together, but this is Brasil". My Carioca friend found some info on the net about this. Something about arrests made of men and women at centro termas. Again, I call on my amigos that undersand Portuguese to investigate this, via the net, or newspapers.
My brazilian friends and I were set to go to 4x4 Thursday afternoon and they called Thursday morning to cancel the trip that afternoon. They were concerned about a police raid.
I just had to check this out myself, I went to 4x4 solo that day just in the interest of protecting my friends and to make sure the coast was clear and there would not be problems. Being a good samaritan :-) I went, did not get arrested, and had a great time, but all in the name of loyalty to friends.
Anyway, i think there is something to this, as the guy that told me the info is Carioca, and a straight shooter.
My logic was, the management and the girls know better than me, if they were working, I figured I was safe. They would not work if they thought it would be a day to get arrested. These places pay so much money to the police, it does not make any sense for the police to bother them, unless a problem exists in the payment arrangements, or there is a political reason to make waves. Otherwise, why would the police rock the boat of the gravy train?
Any followup research is appreciated.
PS. The coast is clear, feel free to go to centro , at least 4x4, and have a good time.
IBZ
Ibiza, Please keep us informed on this development...there are more termas cropping up in Rio and I would'nt be surprised if the arrests were made at the newer termas like Cancun. The new termas are stiff competition to the older established ones with prettier women and lower prices. I searched Oglobo and came up empty. BUT I did notice an article on Beira-Mar, Brazil's most notorious drug lord. Now my portuguese is limited... but the article says something about it costs R30,000/month (@ 15K USD!!) to pay for his security so he does not escape and he was being moved to a new prison...why?? well u dont have to read/understand portuguese to get the gist of this line:
"tirar Beira Mar do estado porque ele ia mandar EXPLODIR TRES HOTEIS DE LUXO CHEIOS DE TURISTAS"
My portuguese is not that good thus I'm prob getting 60-70% of this article---so I am deferring to the resident experts here who can enlighten us. Again Ibiza, keep us informed on these raids.
Ibiza, Please keep us informed on this development...there are more termas cropping up in Rio and I would'nt be surprised if the arrests were made at the newer termas like Cancun. The new termas are stiff competition to the older established ones with prettier women and lower prices. I searched Oglobo and came up empty. BUT I did notice an article on Beira-Mar, Brazil's most notorious drug lord. Now my portuguese is limited... but the article says something about it costs R30,000/month (@ 15K USD!!) to pay for his security so he does not escape and he was being moved to a new prison...why?? well u dont have to read/understand portuguese to get the gist of this line:
"tirar Beira Mar do estado porque ele ia mandar EXPLODIR TRES HOTEIS DE LUXO CHEIOS DE TURISTAS"
My portuguese is not that good thus I'm prob getting 60-70% of this article---so I am deferring to the resident experts here who can enlighten us. Again Ibiza, keep us informed on these raids.
I am no Portuguese expert but I read the same article and was concerned and I think the idea of the article was also talking about one of the reasons he was moved out of the Rio prisons in 2003 was because his cronies were planning to bomb 3 hotels in zona sul. I also do remember at the time there was several attempts at this, one of the hotels I read about was the Meridian, a bomb went off outside but I don't think there was any loss of life. I don't think this is a current concern but something that happened in the past. As you can imagine the Rio government would not want this type of activiity to happen as it would bring their tourism to a halt.
Durante dois dias, só emergências foram atendidas O Sindicato dos Policiais Civis do Rio (Sinpol) decidiu suspender a greve iniciada um dia antes, mas vai continuar protestando. Na assembléia que aconteceu ontem à tarde, os policiais decidiram reprimir o jogo do bicho, a exploração do lenocínio (prostituição) e as máquinas caça-níqueis como forma de protesto. A ação, batizada de Operação Padrão pela Legalidade, acontece pelo menos até depois de amanhã, quando o sindicato se reúne novamente para avaliar o movimento. No início da noite, pelo menos 15 policiais de várias delegacias fecharam a Termas Rio Antigo, na Rua Joaquim Silva, no Centro. Cerca de 70 pessoas entre prostitutas e clientes foram detidos e levados para a 5ª DP (Gomes Freire), onde foram autuados. Mais cedo, segundo os policiais, foram estourados 25 pontos de jogo do bicho no Centro. Delegado mandar tirar cartazes de greve Durante o segundo dia de paralisação, delegacias ficaram vazias e o público, sem atendimento. Na 9ª DP (Catete), um senhor que carregava um pequeno embrulho com duas armas, que ele herdou e pretendia entregar para a polícia, foi embora sem resolver o problema. Na 13ªDP, o delegado titular Ivo Raposo mandou que o faxineiro retirasse os cartazes de greve. Na 10ª DP (Botafogo), os policiais trabalhavam de coletes e só atenderam emergências. Pela manhã, o clima voltou a ficar tenso na 5ª DP (Gomes Freire). Segundo policiais, por volta das 9h, o delegado titular Claide Ribeiro Filho tentou rasgar os coletes usados por servidores com inscrições sobre a paralisação. Segundo o presidente do Sinpol, Fernando Bandeira, a situação foi logo contornada e os policiais tiraram a roupa.
Found the article....from what I can get from this: police in rio are pissed and trying to organize a strike. They suspended the strike but were organizing protests. To make thier point..15 policia decided to shut down the Termas Rio Antigo, and arrested a total of 70 people==prostitutes and customers.
guess someone missed a payoff?...not sure what Jogo do Bicho is...game of ??...Bicho is animal/beef?...or why are they pissed translation someone?
Rio Rob---I vaguely remember that..this dude is one bad ass--He got pissed once and ordered the shutdown of many stores in ipanema and rio. Why? he odered the execution of a rival that was in jail with him..they raided his cell and found cell phones, cache of weapons including grenades, uzis and 9mms. They moved him to a max security cell and he unleashed his cronies...
My logic was, the management and the girls know better than me, if they were working, I figured I was safe. They would not work if they thought it would be a day to get arrested. These places pay so much money to the police, it does not make any sense for the police to bother them, unless a problem exists in the payment arrangements, or there is a political reason to make waves. Otherwise, why would the police rock the boat of the gravy train?
Rio Antigo is the most vulnerable terma for police problems. It's been raided in the past, and I've seen as much written on gpguia (that they don't have as good protection as the other termas do).
It's not really up to the girls at 4x4 if they show up or not. They are on contract so they must work, provided the place is open for business. The alternative is pay a fine or lose their job.
Jogo do bicho ("the animal game") is the informal / illegal lottery. It's run by mafia types. You will see people writing jogo do bicho tickets on street corners all over Rio. Once you look out for it, you'll notice it.
CaptainNemo
03-26-06, 23:30
Does anyone know if terma girls pay tax on their terma income? If so, how much?
Are you thinking of opening an H&R Block franchise in 4X4?
Does anyone know if terma girls pay tax on their terma income? If so, how much?what a silly question - of course every last one of those girls reports their income!
If you watch when the girls leave, they get cash on the spot for the day. That is the reason you have to pay for the girls part in cash and can charge the cabina and drink. The girls get cash.
Do all termas want cash for the girls part? I think most do, and will not take cc for the sex part. I seem to remember most want cash, for part of the bill and you can charge the rest, drink , cabina, etc.
DVD players, ----I found several sites that offer special software to crack the REGIONAL code problem of DVD players, so I think it really does lock your DVD after 4 switches. These sites mention SOFTWARE vs Firmware, specifically. There are 6-7 regions in the world for codes.
IBZ
what a silly question - of course every last one of those girls reports their income!
Team Stream
03-27-06, 02:33
At 4x4, I was able to charge everything... garota fee, drinks, and cabina. That is only terma that I knew of that allowed this.
If you watch when the girls leave, they get cash on the spot for the day. That is the reason you have to pay for the girls part in cash and can charge the cabina and drink. The girls get cash.
Do all termas want cash for the girls part? I think most do, and will not take cc for the sex part. I seem to remember most want cash, for part of the bill and you can charge the rest, drink , cabina, etc.
DVD players, ----I found several sites that offer special software to crack the REGIONAL code problem of DVD players, so I think it really does lock your DVD after 4 switches. These sites mention SOFTWARE vs Firmware, specifically. There are 6-7 regions in the world for codes.
IBZ
If you watch when the girls leave, they get cash on the spot for the day. That is the reason you have to pay for the girls part in cash and can charge the cabina and drink. The girls get cash.
Do all termas want cash for the girls part? I think most do, and will not take cc for the sex part. I seem to remember most want cash, for part of the bill and you can charge the rest, drink , cabina, etc.
IBZ
That's why 4x4 is the best in town. You can pay for all your charges with a cc including the price for the girls.
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