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Full Throttle
05-19-06, 18:00
1. Regarding the real value: Don't talk about it anymore! You're just going to jinx it and I'll be paying $1 for 1.9 soon!

2. I'll be around on Sunday if anyone wants to toast our good fortune. Beers cost 10% less than last week (oh, crap, did I jinx myself?).

3. Are ANY of the DOWNTOWN termas discussed open on Sunday? I'm sure not, but thought I'd ask anyway.

FT

Rio Bob
05-19-06, 19:24
1. Regarding the real value: Don't talk about it anymore! You're just going to jinx it and I'll be paying $1 for 1.9 soon!
FT

Somebody here recently quoted a post from the World Sex Guide Archives, I remember the quote from reading it years ago but I wanted to re read it as I thought it was originally written in a different context. I did a search on google and I found the archives, I read through some of if it but I coundln't locate the quote, it doesn't matter.

One thing I did notice and found very interesting that back in 1996/1997, 10 years ago those posters were complaining about the same things we are all complaining about today. The quality of the girls, they said used to be better. The attitudes of the girls, they said it used to be better. How much to give them, don't overpay as it makes it bad for everyone. The crime which actually was worse than today, Rio really hit bottom in the 90's as nobody would go there as its reputation for muggings and violence was greater than today and that was reality not just perception, people were complaining about that too And finally the Real, the real at that time was about 1 real to the dollar and sometimes less like .90 to the dollar. Thats when I started to go back to Rio after a 10 year hiatus and I was shocked at how expensive things were maybe even more than today. But things did get better much better as you all know the dollar eventually got 4 reais maybe we will see this again soon in our dreams like a Nasdaq 5000.

Ibiza007
05-19-06, 21:09
I have been there once with Giovana, in November. You do not need to be married, as stated, paired with any vagina will do.

It was not the swinging lovefest I had hoped for. It is an OK place, with live music when I was there. The ground floor, is small. I thought, THIS will be great, I will pass Giovana off ( Giovana is really cute) and i will get to bang everyones girlfriends or wifes. WELL, that is not how it works, first you better speak portuguese very well or your meassge could be totally off, and insulting. Giovana did end up with someone, but is was a girl, not a guy and me and the other guy where left figuratively holding our cocks, the girls were going at it, and we had nothing but air. I do suggest you take a Bi-Sexual girl, as this will open your opportunities. Giovana ended up in the orgy pit upstairs with 3 girls licking her out, and a few perverts randomly sticking her from behind, she never saw them coming. I lost interest in Giovana and the whole place, I paid Giovana for her time, R$150 for the whole night, but I never touched her after the club. make sure you have sex before you go, as you may not want to be with your girl after the mosh pit. Get something for your money. So, for me it was very interesting to see my first live orgy, but my fantasy had been broken. I did see a few hot other girls, but was not able to pull off a switch. With good portuguese, you might end up in a better deal than I got. It was an expensive night, with her fee and entrance and drinks, over $R300 for sure.

to each his own, maybe you will like it.

IBZ




i've been there. a couple is a man and womanl, married or not is irrelevant. as you walk in you'll recieve a slip of paper to keep tabs of your drinks, which you'll pay on the way out. (Like most clubs in Rio.) if needed, the Hostess will give you a tour of the facilities. again it's not that big of a place. the bar area is tiny, compared to most clubs. it reminded me of a bar in someones home here in the US.
the night my GF and i went, they had male and female strippers. it was crowded. after the strippers got done, just about everyone went to the second floor. it was very difficult moving in the narrow dimly lit hallway. the rooms were occupied and closed, there was some action going on in the general orgy room, (mostly limited to a guy getting a BJ.) the real action was in the closed rooms, you could hear them. i got the impression they knew each other and had done this together before.
the make-up of the crowd was mostly middle aged brasilians, with all the imperfections, just like here in the states. i was approached and fondled by a mature brasiliera. the GF got hit upon by a older brasilian. no couples approached us.
i've been to the swing clubs in SP, where the participants were younger and the action more open. you may be disappointed by the action in 2a2. but understand, i only went once.

DFWdude
05-19-06, 22:46
Just currious the date of 15May has come and gone. Is HELP still there. I am going to Rio next month for 1.5 days. Going down to see the 4x4 girl that claims I am the father of her baby due in Oct....

Rio Bob
05-20-06, 00:02
Just currious the date of 15May has come and gone. Is HELP still there. I am going to Rio next month for 1.5 days. Going down to see the 4x4 girl that claims I am the father of her baby due in Oct....

There are people on this board who are in Rio now and I'm sure if Help was closed someone would have said something. Full Throttle was there last Sunday, he didn't go in because he had shorts on but it sounded like it was open. I also have a friend who is there now and he promised me that he would send me an email if Help is closed, I got no email. When I was there several weeks ago, the people in Help told me they will never close and the girls who work there knew nothing about it. They were surprised when I mentioned it to them and asked "Where will I work?" But guys will still come to Rio and they can work in the cafes.

Bubba Boy
05-20-06, 04:14
I went there last night, no problem. Just walked past there an hour ago, still running, no problem. It may close tomorrow, it may be a few years who knows.

Full Throttle
05-20-06, 04:51
I'm going to fly down tomorrow night just to check. Maybe if it's closed, they'll let me in with shorts...

El Austriaco
05-20-06, 18:39
When I was there several weeks ago, the people in Help told me they will never close and the girls who work there knew nothing about it. They were surprised when I mentioned it to them and asked "Where will I work?" But guys will still come to Rio and they can work in the cafes.
When I was there several weeks ago in late April, nobody knew anything about Help closing: not the girls, not the waiters at Veranda Help, no one. So I can definitely confirm this. Seems like the same old rumor that appears to come around every spring at the beginning of the off-season.

EA

Dr Licks
05-20-06, 21:58
Ok, maybe I am still suffering from my mind being blown away (literally) but this place is f**cking unbelievable. Never seen anything like it. Now I know how women feel like a piece of meat in the U.S. And this is the of season, can hardly imagine what it is like full stregnth!!

Ibiza007
05-21-06, 04:12
i was there last night, outside for about 2 hours and it was actually very busy, with some nice girls, some new ones as well. many girls are claiming not to go inside as they think it is not worth their time, but other girls strictly work inside, and i get the feeling they think they are above the girls that work outside. i do see many that arrive at 11:30 and go straight in, and by appearence, they are better looking on average. as has been discussed, beauty, price and service have very little in common.

copa seems slow now, but helpeee seems to be going strong. i did get a coupon via email for r$60.00 off for all of next week at monte carlo, this is the first time i have seen mc do this, so business must be slow. the promo is for free r$60.00 cabina, so now r$190,00 for 40 min, i think i will take the bait and give it a try, i hav enot been there since before xmas.

ibz

Ibiza007
05-21-06, 15:29
Last night I was trying to sleep and I was awakened by a strange noise in the apartment above me. I live on the 5th floor, and normally this building is pretty quiet. About 2:00am I start hearing a soft moaning, and I think I am dreaming, but then I wake up and I recogniize that sound, Some girl is wailing like a banshee, in a good way. It went on for about 20 minutes, so this morning I asked the portero about the apartment above me, if we had a new occupant. He said it was now a short time rental, and that there was a prostitute there last night.

I could hear her wailing, so I am pretty sure that my guests wailings and moanings are just as audiable to my neighbors.

I just laid awake and smiled as I knew she was having a good time.

A little dose of my own medicine, but interesting to be on the receiving end of the noise vs. the providing end.

This morning was truly a picture perfect morning in Rio. As many know, the Ave Atlantica is basically closed to traffic on Sunday, it does go one way, but very few cars are on it. There were the normal Sunday walkers, bikers, etc and the beach volleyball games, just a lot of people enjoying the GREAT PART of Rio. Despite all of its problems, Sunday morning walking on Cpoacabana is really a special place.

Unfortunately, reality sets in, like when I go to Sendas for groceries and see 7 year old favela kids smoking cigarettes at 10:00 in the morning. Ah, Rio....

Jaimito Cartero
05-21-06, 15:44
I'm going to fly down tomorrow night just to check. Maybe if it's closed, they'll let me in with shorts...

You just need those gangsta shorts that are so low they look almost like pants. Or, you wear them halfway down your ass. :)

Member #3859
05-21-06, 22:35
They have always thrown out the girls who worked outside of the Othon Hotel. Has that policy changed?? I surely hope so as it's a good hotel and I stay there often? How about the Dazenove 1-2-3, has it closed or changed its name? It was just through the tunnel near the Rio Sul Shopping mall? Any news?

Ibiza007
05-21-06, 23:44
Everytime I speak to a girl that works at Barbarella, the first words from her mouth are R$300+ per hour. And then she explained how she had to work out and keep in shape, i.e. , her gym membership was factored in the price, and she needed a new BMW, not a little one either. She was studying a drivers license handbook to take the driving test. She was serious, and she reminded me she was very sexy, therfore she should be paid more. Run away from these girls, as fast as possible.

I do not believe there are enough people willing to pay R$300 plus to keep all the Barbarella girls working. Maybe if they only land a fish every third day, they can survive. It has to be a real catfight in there for the few willing payers.

Her name is Simone, white girl, black hair and a great round butt...pierced chin and nose.

I prefer to finance the Rio public transit system, the Onibus and Metro, not some GDP's BMW fetish. Many girls ride one hour or more each night just to work. I know one that comes from Petropolis, over 2 hours. I am pretty sure at 3:00am her price is a warm bed.

The barbarella girl was this afternoon and 20 minutes before I explained to an onibus girl that yes, R$150 per 2 hours would be normal, if there were any people in town, and she got my point and agreed to R$100 for 2 hours at a later date to be determined.

I simply said to take a look around, you can still eat on R$100, but you can not eat on R$0.00. She saw the logic of this.

IBZ

Rio Bob
05-22-06, 00:26
Everytime I speak to a girl that works at Barbarella, the first words from her mouth are R$300+ per hour. And then she explained how she had to work out and keep in shape, i.e. ,
Her name is Simone, white girl, black hair and a great round butt...pierced chin and nose.
IBZ

It has been several years since I have been to Barbarella, last time I think the dollar was fetching close to 4 reais and I took 2 blonds out of there for less than $100 total. But this last trip I ran into one in Help one night, she told me she woke up late and it was too late for her to go to Barbarella's as you have to enter by 11 pm she said. She was a big blond a gaucha from Porto Allegra, nicely dressed, a real Barbarella type and she was a take control type of person.

Back at my apartment she asks for the money up front(I also might add most girls from the south of Brazil do, I always tell then Baby this ain't Santa Catarina), I told her sorry I don't pay up front and that she should leave, she said forget it, actually when she asked me I now remember, she was on her knees with my johnson in her mouth in my living room and I could barely understand her because her mouth was full but she was trying to tell me to give her her present now. I told her to get the hell out. Well she had a big attitude change after that became a little bit more submissive but she was a real trip.

She mellowed a bit and started telling me how difficult life is and how so many women in Brazil everywhere are putas, sounded good to me. Then when we were rapping things up she went into her GDP/Brabarella mode again, asking for taxi money, whining, asking for this asking for that, I told her that crap is not going to work on me and stop acting because I know you do this to squeeze more money out of guys and it is just an act, just shut up and get dressed and get out of here, it turned out to be a good session, she wouldn't let me take any pictures.

Wild Cherokee
05-22-06, 17:18
Gentleman,

Please allow me to start this post by expressing sincere gratitude to you all. This will be my first trip to Rio and I feel a certain level of comfort now... as if I have a basic lay of the land (no pun intended). Your sage advice is heartfelt and I plan to provide some interesting reports and pics upon my return.

If I may ask one last question, can someone advise me on the best place(s) to exchange USD? I will be arriving at the airport with USD only. I assume that I may need to exchange a few USD at the airport to pay for cabfare. Once in Rio (I will actually be staying at a condo in Impanema), where may one go to get a fare exchange rate? And of course, not have to be worried about being mugged on the way out!

Wildcherokee

El Austriaco
05-22-06, 21:47
if i may ask one last question, can someone advise me on the best place(s) to exchange usd? i will be arriving at the airport with usd only. i assume that i may need to exchange a few usd at the airport to pay for cabfare. once in rio (i will actually be staying at a condo in impanema), where may one go to get a fare exchange rate? and of course, not have to be worried about being mugged on the way out!

wildcherokee
i would bring some usd in cash as an emergency fund, but get the rest from atms in reais. for whatever reason, there seem to be several citibank atms in ipanema as compared to only one i know of in copacabana. there are several atms that accept foreign cards at the upper (departure) level in the international airport (rates might vary slightly, though). with atm withdrawals, whatever your home bank charges you in terms of transaction fees is still better for me, imho, than the inconvenience of having to go to casas de cambio plus the risk of running around with a lot of cash.

talking about bringing cash to brazil: most countries specify that you do not need to declare any cash and/or cash instruments if you bring less than usd 10,000. not so in brazil: the limit is r$ 10,000. if you exceed this amount, you are required to declare it at customs upon entry into brazil. actually, it's not even all that complicated (just fill out a form in portuguese, and they give you a copy and record your amount in a book). wouldn't wanna risk having your money confirep001ed in case you are inspected at customs (unlikely, but happens).

ea

Euro100
05-22-06, 22:56
If I may ask one last question, can someone advise me on the best place(s) to exchange USD?


Bubba's Guide has lot's of info on this topic, too. (It has its own thread in the Brazil section ... just scroll down).

As for me, what works best is to take large US bills ($100) to Luomo, pay my bill in US$ and get the change in reais. Luomo gave me the best exchange rate; and, yes, I found this info in Bubba's guide.

I never go to ATMs. Everybody knows that you are walking away from an ATM with cash in your pocket. Too dangerous for me.

Also, get a money belt! Best investment for Brazil mongering I ever made. I always hide two c-notes in it. When I got mugged, the favela-scum did not see my money hidden there.

euro

Gladiator
05-22-06, 23:47
I also prefer to stick to ATM’s for the bulk of my expenses during the trip, taking some cash just to kick off on arrival and as emergency.

I always use Banco do Brasil as there are many branches, their ATM’s are usually available till late (until around 9-10 pm if I remember correctly) and, most importantly, you don’t have to insert your card completely so you can’t lose it, as it’s happened to me before in other banks’ ATM’s, which didn’t return the fucking card.

Regarding Barbarella girls, and even Barbarella itself, they are best avoided altogether. They are mainly orientated towards ripping off newbies IMO and I don’t see any reason why someone who is familiar with the Rio scene would ever want to overpay in order to go with a Barbarella girl.

When I was in Natal recently I met a girl who had worked in Barbarella in the past, she quoted 200 R$ for 1 hour when the going rate in Natal was 100 R$ per hour maximum or 150 R$ for TLN. I tried to bring her down, she came down to 150 R$ per hour, I told her I wouldn’t go above 100 p/h, she insisted she wouldn’t come any lower than 150 p/h – I wished her good luck and moved on.

Delecti
05-23-06, 01:12
All of the advise given is good, but there is no set answer. Here's what I've found: 1) You can easily change $50 with one of the guys hawking taxis at the airport. They will quote you a bad rate, but if you have an idea what you should get, they will normally give it to you. About .05 less than the official rates is pretty fare. So if the online conversion rates are 2.20 real to the dollar, they will give about 2.15. Follow the Bubba guide and don't take a taxi from them. After exchanging a couple of dollars, walk past them and grab a meter cab, yellow. That will save you about 10 reis on the drive in, maybe more. 2) I have used ATM's, Money Changers (generally travel agencies or jewelery stores, Termas and Help for exchanges. Each trip (I up to about a dozen in the last 3 years, a different one is the best rate. Luomo is normally very good. Centaurus last trip (in March) was even better! (only discussing exchange rate here). Last year Help had the best rate, in March it was the worst. The money exchange places are pretty good. I got the best rate from them in March, second only to Centaurus. The ATM is the fall back position. You don't know the rate until the transaction is over. And there are several service charges: One from the ATM and another from your bank back home. It ends up being about $5 or $6 USD. If you do the math, that is a 2-3% hit on a $200 to $300 USD withdrawl. If you do that once, or ask someone else at the ATM what rate they just got, try that rate at a money exchange. I have always been able to beat the ATM rate. But it is open all the time, and it is no hassle (barring security concers - never had a problem personally, but...).

Finally, I know a lot of people complain about the money exchange places. The postings on this board are on both sides of that issue. The general criticism is that they must give a worse rate because they are a middle man. That's not true. Many of those business do a fair amount of business internationally in US dollars. Owners of travel agencies do a lot of travel for clients going to the US and much of the purchase of gems and gold is done in dollars or EUROS. So those business people need dollars. The bank makes a couple of percent both buying dollars from you, and then selling dollars to those merchants. So by dealing with them yourself, you are actually cutting out the middleman ----The BANKS! Now, that is not to say that all will give you a good rate. But ask and you will find out! I have never seen a service charge from them. The rate they quote is the rate that you get. And if you don't speak portuguese, just show them the money, they will ring up the conversion on an adding machine tape, show you how much it is and you can say yes or no.

That's my money advice, I'm sure you'll get a lot more. Oh, and I do agree with the money belt advice, but I don't have one....maybe next trip!

PS: The worst, worst worst rate will be on your credit card transactions. If you follow through all of the related service charges on your purchases, there are hidden currency exchange charges buried in the small print on the back of your credit card statement. So what looks at first like a good idea, ends up being very poor.

Oh, and a last note: Skip all of my comments about ATM charges if you have a CitiBank atm card. I opened a Citibank checking account just to dodge those charges, use it at Citibank ATMs in Rio. Probably not worth it for most people.

Enough rambling. Have fun

RonnyRon
05-23-06, 02:29
It appears someone left the gate unlocked and the village IDIOT is back to share his infinite wisdom. Glad to see Euro100 back posting. Also for those of you who prefer not to use the ATM next to Blockbusters, there is an ATM located on the 4th or 6th floor of the Le Meridian hotel @ the corner of Princess Isabel & Atlantica Avenue, which accepts US cards. Needless to say getting cash there is very safe.

RonnyRon

Euro100
05-23-06, 03:14
Glad to see Euro100 back posting.


Thanks, man. I have been mongering in Germany lately. Not quite Rio, but still pretty amazing. Be back in Rio next month.

euro

Euro100
05-23-06, 03:17
speechless!!! i thought for one second that the e-mail was geared towards 10-15 year olds until i realized that it was posted here.


dollars,

no the message was not geared towards you.

do yourself a favor and put me on your ignore list. ... cause you are on mine now.

euro

Member #4156
05-23-06, 12:56
Anybody know where the best places to get good rates in Ipanema?

Rio Bob
05-23-06, 21:59
They have always thrown out the girls who worked outside of the Othon Hotel. Has that policy changed?? I surely hope so as it's a good hotel and I stay there often? How about the Dazenove 1-2-3, has it closed or changed its name? It was just through the tunnel near the Rio Sul Shopping mall? Any news?

Not that it matters much but what the heck are you talking about?

BootyTapper
05-24-06, 03:10
It appears someone left the gate unlocked and the village IDIOT is back to share his infinite wisdom. Glad to see Euro100 back posting. Also for those of you who prefer not to use the ATM next to Blockbusters, there is an ATM located on the 4th or 6th floor of the Le Meridian hotel @ the corner of Princess Isabel & Atlantica Avenue, which accepts US cards. Needless to say getting cash there is very safe.

RonnyRon

Thanks for the info RonnyRon! Everytime I am in Rio, I use that CitiBank ATM next to Blockbusters. Its a little intimidating sometimes, especially if you go at night. I remember one time there was a robbery down the street at another banks ATMS and when I went to the CitiBank ATM there were 2 armed guards there. One inside and the other outside. I will definitely check out the ATMs at the Le Meridian.

Also the exchange rate took a good jump yesterday. Hopefully this time it stays up in the $2.25R+ range, which means more money to play with in Rio.

Sprite13
05-24-06, 04:05
Was just checking out Yahoo finance and saw that the dollar was up to 2.21 reals today. In the last 2 days its been up .13. Maybe our crappy dollar is starting to make a little comeback. Sure would like to see 2.50 again.Right now, I just checked the $ was at drum rolls...2.35 Reais....:)
When I saw it, I thought it was a typo but I refreshed my browser and once again, the same thing. It's looking good!!! Keep it that way to back to 3 to 1 and everything would be perfect again!!!:)

Sprite13
05-24-06, 04:18
Oi Galera, tudo bem?

I find this website truly invaluable with all the great info found in here. I'd have a couple of quick questions if I may ask all the experts in here:

I'm planning my next trip in August. Last time I stayed in Ipanema, this time, I'd like to stay in Centro and sample the Centro action. Which hotel would you recommend?

And if those familiar with Centro action can give a summary of the action available there, I would truly appreciate and be grateful.

I"ll duly report with details upon complexion of this mission of mine. :D

Valeu.

Ibiza007
05-24-06, 05:01
I got 2.29 this morning at HSBC, printed on the receipt, I have not checked tonight, but if you are here and have cable TV, just click on Bloomberg, the rate is there 24/7.

Also, I never see much about this but MULTISHOW, channel 42 on NET has wonderful soft porn on everynight for free, usually naked girls, running carefree in a field and cover in hot soapy water, an everyday ocurrence, and then it appears it is sponsored by Cafe Photo in SP. I am never sure if these are Cafe Photo working girls or just a girly show , sponsored by Cafe Photo. Anybody know the association? , is Cafe Photo a sponsor, or are these girls associated with cafe photo?

Anyway, very interesting.

Sidenote, The other day I got a hair cut with a local barber, I sit down in the chair and the first thing after the cape, he hands me a magazine "SEXY" similar to playboy , but Brazilian. What a great country...

IBZ


Right now, I just checked the $ was at drum rolls...2.35 Reais....:)
When I saw it, I thought it was a typo but I refreshed my browser and once again, the same thing. It's looking good!!! Keep it that way to back to 3 to 1 and everything would be perfect again!!!:)

Lancer520
05-24-06, 06:41
How do we gain .30 Reals in just over a week. Gotta love those Brazilian poiticians. Whatever they're doing keep it up and we'll be back to 3.00 Reals in no time. Now if I could only get some vacation time I'll be back to the motherland.

Exec Talent
05-24-06, 08:44
If you get a chance, plot the movement of the Dow with the movement of the Dollar-Reais exchange rate. I have found that when the DOW moves downward, the exchange rate moves up.

Ibiza007
05-24-06, 14:06
Chart the Bovespa, as it drops, the real drops. Investors want out of Bovespa, and the real; and seek other currency = demand for Euro - Dollar, the Bovespa has been hammered the past few days. 1% drops per day are ordinary.

Watch this relationship.

IBZ

Full Throttle
05-24-06, 16:03
So, I started a new hobby last week. Might even be a get-rich quck scheme. Currency speculation. It's great fun. I bought $500 worth of reals at 205 per. Then, a week later, I forgot to bring them from home, so I bought another batch at 212. Didn't use but half of them. So now, I have roughly $400 worth of reals that I can sell for about $340. Awesome!

Arrived Sunday morning (again). What a difference a week makes! Instead of 75 degrees, it reached 86. Somebody forgot to tell the girls that it is not peak season. Impanema, the preferred beach for sophisticates like myself, was a sea of people-- mostly pretty ones. I started in Leblon, walked the length of Impanema, cut over to Copa, walked to the end... then back. I stopped in front of the Ceasar Park Hotel where 10 beautiful girls were sitting in the vicinity of the masseur/masseuse settlement (80R/ hour, 60/1/2 hour). They seemed friendly enough, so I spoke to them. They were top-tier Help girls. They seemed very content to be enjoying the day on the beach, and I was a sweaty mess after my 9 mile walk/jog/beer excursion, so I just enjoyed the moment of flirting with such lovely girls. This decision became a theme for the next couple of days.

At the hotel bar, 2 of us made friends with a fellow passenger from our flight the night before. Not just any passenger-- a 6'8" 350 pound German-born American who was ready for fun on his first-and-only night in Rio. So, the 3 of us left for Copa Cabana. What fun to walk the streets with your own body guard! Ever yell, "Pele sucks, Pele SUCKS!..." on Ave. Atlantica? Great fun.

After some good Arabic food a couple of block inland (I think you save 20% per street from the beach), and stops at a handful of kiosks, we arrived at Help around 11PM. For the first time in at least 5 years, I was wearing long pants at Help, so going inside was a real option. So, at 11:57, we took the plunge and went inside.

I must confess, I thought that I'd been in Help before. Upon entering, I realized that I hadn't. The atmosphere was 10X more enjoyable that what I had falsely remembered. The music wasn't so loud (at that time), the dance floor is large and open, the ice-cold beers are only $3R and the Cappa...whatevers 6R. Red Bull $1,000 or more. Even the staff was pleasant.

And the girls! They should light up the restaurant outside, taxis, and my hotel with black lighting. The girls look magnificent in there. And, despite the slow season, I found them to be rather passive. Well, assertive but not aggressive, how’s that?

SWEET REVENGE

Among the girls there was the one I took home from the outside restaurant last week. Black light was made for her. She looked very nice and latched on to me rather quickly. Now, I’m not sure I admitted this before, but she kind of stiffed my stiffy last week. When she woke around noon, I was ready for the day 2 goodbye event. But, apparently she over-slept and had to leave too quickly. I told her, “diaz minutos mas??” I know that’s Spanish, but it’s all I know. Unphased, she continued to dress. Then, she stroked me in the cab all the way from Leblon to Copa. So, I said goodbye to my garota with a hard-on and no place to go. I know I only paid her 120 for TLN, but there’s no excuse for that.

So, it was with glee that I explained to her the error of her ways in Help. I told her she was beautiful and I would love to be with her again, were it not for those 10 minutes that never happened. I knew there was no way she was going home with anyone else, so it cost her.

STILL A VIRGIN~ BARELY

My colleague left accompanied leaving me with the biggest, baddest, drunkest German-American south of Detroit. It was clearly time to go home for him, and figured I could live without sex for a few more hours. So, we found a metered cab and off we went.

It turns out that I almost didn’t go without, as my German friend became…er, a little affectionate. At first, I assumed that the alcohol and hundreds of generations of communal partying and a BAC of .25 or more left him comfortable hanging on to his new buddy. I helped him stagger to his room. Once inside, he really didn’t want me to leave. It was then – far too late – that it occurred to me that I’d painted myself into a corner that I could not possibly get out of, should things go the wrong way. Suddenly, I regretted all of those Mike Tyson in Prison jokes I once found so amusing. I’m thinking, I have walked hundreds and thousands of hours through forbidden neighborhoods on dangerous streets in dozens of countries around the world, and I am about to be physically mutilated and mentally devastated right here, in a 4-star hotel by a 6’8” 320 pound jolly German. Great. Just fucking great.

Obviously, there was no problem walking away, ‘cause you wouldn’t be hearing about it if there was! So, I’ll never know EXACTLY what the deal was. I’m going to assume that a dozen or more cappawhatevers make even the biggest heterosexual men on the planet a little giddy. All I know, is I woke up alone and intact.

DAY 2

Found a building full of termas on day 2. Wading through this report entitles you to some concrete information:

NS Copa Cabana 583, room 206.

There is a small reception foyer, then a one-room terma with a TV bolted to the wall. A little corner alcove has been turned into a beer dispensary. One bench along a wall, 5-6 small tables with stool-seats. Open 6 days.

There was one astonishingly pretty girl. An absolute beauty. 5’8”, blond hair, perfectly-shaped Brazilian butt, B/C cups, perfect teeth and lips that may or may not have been altered, but were alluring.

8 other girls. Maybe 2 doable in Rio, 6 in Tijuana. Onsite rooms small but clean enough. Showers on other side of the terma main room.

Price 81R for ½ hour, 150 for a full hour.

Across the hallway, I went into another terma. This one has a 20R cover, but has better facilities. There is a shower/sauna area and the private rooms are a little nicer. There were only 3 girls when I was there. Prices a little higher than the other place – 80R only gets you 20 minutes.

Downtown Massage

I ran out of time, but here are some massage places I researched. Maybe they’re in Bubba’s Guide, but I don’t think so:

House of Massagen, Ave. Rio Branco 156-2328 60R/40 min.
Reputed to have nice rooms.

River Center Masagen Ave. R. Branco 156-3320 65R/40 min. 85R/hour
2517-1656

Aline Masage www.destack.com.br/alinemassagem.htm 2215-5741 60R/30 min, 85R/ hour Ave. Centro17, room 1706.

Also have office on Ave Mexico 148, room 701. Ph 2220-6192 or 2544-7199. Same prices

Camille Masagem 2524-7789 or 2240-1044

All of the above seem to have nice facilities

Sperto
05-24-06, 16:47
Downtown Massage
I ran out of time, but here are some massage places I researched. Maybe they’re in Bubba’s Guide, but I don’t think so:
House of Massagen, Ave. Rio Branco 156-2328 60R/40 min.
Reputed to have nice rooms.
River Center Masagen Ave. R. Branco 156-3320 65R/40 min. 85R/hour
2517-1656
Av Rio Branco 156, Edifício Central. A huge building with shops downstairs and offices etc in the rest of the building. There are lots of very nice casas with quality girls in that building. According to me the best deal in Centro.

You just have to find the casas. Could be tricky as there are no signs on the doors. The casas are very discrete. In the classificados they only put their phone numbers.

The staff in the Edifício-reception are not allowed to tell you which apartments that holds the massagem.

I made a fool of myself several times in Edifício Central, knocking on doors asking for the girls just to find out that the massagem moved and the apartment now holds a law firm or similar.

Full Throttle
05-24-06, 19:14
For those keeping score at home, almost 2.39/ dollar at 2pm edt!!!!!

Still can't afford L'uomos, but can now go to 4X4!!

FT

El Austriaco
05-24-06, 19:40
And if those familiar with Centro action can give a summary of the action available there, I would truly appreciate and be grateful.
A while back, Sperto provided a list of places:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=447086&postcount=548

Then recently, I added a few more:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=458751&postcount=935

Here's one of my posts of MV 30:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=458757&postcount=937

And here's a lengthy one on 502 (and other stuff):
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=462182&postcount=1033

For other Termas (4x4, Cancun, etc.), check the Bubba Guide: they are documented extensively. Hope this helps.

EA

Cazzo
05-24-06, 20:11
Ussually, a trip to Bomboa is all that friends and I need. This trip, we are trying to do something special and outrages. We are looking for a few crazy bi-sexual girls that have too much energy. We would like to watch them and have them wear a strap on for each other and so on before joining in. 3-5 girls for 2-3 guys.

Anyone have any recomendations?

I know it's short notice, but like I said, we have our ussual spots.

The Watcher
05-24-06, 21:08
For those keeping score at home, almost 2.39/ dollar at 2pm edt!!!!!

Still can't afford L'uomos, but can now go to 4X4!!

FT

Great news!!!!

I hope it keeps going up so that when I get there around the end of July I can afford L'uomos!

Traveler222
05-25-06, 01:01
I am doing research for a trip to Rio. It is not clear to me what the massagems are. Are they massage parlors where you get some sort of a massage plus a happy ending plus maybe more with a tip? Or are they simply low class brothels?

Euro100
05-25-06, 02:13
And here's a lengthy one on 502 (and other stuff):
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=462182&postcount=1033


Yep, that's a great one. I enshrined it into the "Reports of Distinction" hall of fame. :D

euro

Dollars
05-25-06, 04:57
Thanks for the info RonnyRon! Everytime I am in Rio, I use that CitiBank ATM next to Blockbusters. Its a little intimidating sometimes, especially if you go at night.

This Citibank and the HSBC both on Ave Copa give the best rates.

El Austriaco
05-25-06, 05:41
I am doing research for a trip to Rio. It is not clear to me what the massagems are. Are they massage parlors where you get some sort of a massage plus a happy ending plus maybe more with a tip? Or are they simply low class brothels?

Well, seems like your at the very beginning of your research, right? Read the board, will ya, there's tons of information out there?

Go straight to the Bubba Guide:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2191

EA

Sperto
05-25-06, 06:12
I am doing research for a trip to Rio. It is not clear to me what the massagems are. Are they massage parlors where you get some sort of a massage plus a happy ending plus maybe more with a tip? Or are they simply low class brothels?
In some Casa de massagem you actually can get massagem if you would like, but the main purpose is to buy sexual services, brothels.

"Low class brothels?" High class, low class, no class, there are all kinds. The majority of the Casa de massagems holds less than a dozen girls, quality varies a lot, cabins for short-time sessions and often at a low price.

Evicente
05-25-06, 09:56
Hello,

I need for my next trip a Report/Review about Elektra, I find her Homepage and maybe I like to book her in my Summer Holidays. Her Website is:

http://elektra-stocklos.rare-escort.com/

I am happy when somebody can tell me something about this Escort.

She write me by E-Mail, that she works in Rio de Janeiro and in Sao Paulo too, she have family in the 2 Cities.

Thanks,

:-)

Sperto
05-25-06, 20:31
Hello,
I need for my next trip a Report/Review about Elektra, I find her Homepage and maybe I like to book her in my Summer Holidays. Her Website is:
http://elektra-stocklos.rare-escort.com/
I am happy when somebody can tell me something about this Escort.
She write me by E-Mail, that she works in Rio de Janeiro and in Sao Paulo too, she have family in the 2 Cities.

Hello,
I find today this Website with beautiful Baltic Escorts:
http://baltic-escorts.promweb.de
Somebody have something to review about the Girls there?

Was my first time in Brazil and I book a Girl with Name Deborah. Was a unforgetable night. This Girl is really fantastic Sexbomb.
I find this Girl at: http://escorts-brazil.promweb.de
Next Holiday starts for me in June and I take another Girl. Thanks for all the good reviews about the Girls in Brazil, I read the reviews and a Rookie learn many here !
Ricardo
Evicente or Ricardão,
Crappy escort-sites. What's your problem?

Mangera
05-25-06, 21:08
I saw her pics. and took a look at her rates.......Take a good look at her rate for all night........$400.00 US Don't think so!


I can do some major damage in Brasil with $400.00 clams! Definitely better material and than ElektraScam!

Is someone around here smoking dope? Oh well, to each , his own.

I think its best to shop around, make comparisons and become better informed, in order to be an educated consumer. No matter what we are trying to buy, cars, apartments, appliances.........oh yea, and a piece of ass too!

Laters!

Rio Bob
05-26-06, 00:16
Hello,

I need for my next trip a Report/Review about Elektra, I find her Homepage and maybe I like to book her in my Summer Holidays. Her Website is:

http://elektra-stocklos.rare-escort.com/

I am happy when somebody can tell me something about this Escort.

She write me by E-Mail, that she works in Rio de Janeiro and in Sao Paulo too, she have family in the 2 Cities.

Thanks,

:-)

Im not sure if you have ever been to Rio before but I would guess not. The timeframe that you are going is off season and in Rio you can find many girls who are of this average quality for a fraction of her rates. Unless your just trying to advertise this website then you can forget it, the people on this board know the ropes, go and find another site that has ignorant posters, the people are way too smart here.

Japan
05-26-06, 03:16
OK guys,

Please spare me any lectures, but I would be much obliged if anyone could tell me where I can find bbfs action in Rio. Please reply soon or send me a private message if you are sqeamish about this topic. I will be here only another 3 days! Thanks in advance for any info on this--and in retun, I will tell you what I know about this topic, which is quite a bit, in a variety of coutries, but this is my first trip to Brazil!

Ibiza007
05-26-06, 05:02
Bovespa rebounded today, up over 1,000 pts in one day, 4.9% increase, as suggested, this hurt the dollar, demand for reals back in place.

The Bovespa is down 7% for the last 30 days, and is still up over 50% for the year. I would short the Bovespa , starting after this rally ends, Quick momentum in place now. The dollar was changed by 10 centavos, with the largest one day gain in the history of the Bovespa, the dollar actually held its ground very well today. In the near future , the Bovespa will cool down and the Real will weaken some, how much , I have know idea, this is just my guess.

IBZ

Ibiza007
05-26-06, 05:12
If there is on thing you should always keep in mind, in Brasil and anywhere, is if you can not see her face, forget it, period. Stop right now, Go no further, Rule No 1. No face, No deal. Bait and Switch!!!

She does not look any different than a nice Terma girl or top level Help girl.

Leave Electra/her behind now, move one, a thousand more in Rio.

MONTE CARLO

I went last night and used the R$60,00 discount coupon,

Very few people, very few girls, and not good quality. I found anice one, with huge natural D cups, I could not belive they were real, Black Hair, MONIQUE is her name this week.

R$205,00 total with two beers, good deal this week, ends Friday,

Suyara? The girl I was looking for has moved on. This is what I was told.

IBZ

El Austriaco
05-26-06, 06:20
Hello,

I need for my next trip a Report/Review about Elektra, I find her Homepage and maybe I like to book her in my Summer Holidays. Her Website is:

http://elektra-stocklos.rare-escort.com/

And according to the services listed on her website, I think she doesn't even do a BBBJ...

Other than that, here's Golden Rule #1 for you, Evicente: she quotes rates in dollars, she is a tourist ripoff! Take the USD 400.00 TLN you will save, bet them on Brazil winning the upcoming WC (you get 3.65 odds right now). I am pretty confident it will be a more satisfying experience :)

BTW, the other escort websites you posted are down. I guess why...

EA

Member #4156
05-26-06, 10:51
Suyara? The girl I was looking for has moved on. This is what I was told.

IBZ
Try Termas 64. As of last Tuesday, that's where she told me she'll be until June 15.

Dennishale5
05-26-06, 14:45
Aare they closing Club Help?

Rio Bob
05-26-06, 19:07
Aare they closing Club Help?

Dennis that's the sixty four thousand dollar question here. Even the people who work for Help or who work in Help don't know the answer to that but my impression is that YES Help is closing we just don't know what day and what year, maybe it has another year or 5 or 10 or hopefully 20.

CaptainNemo
05-26-06, 19:58
This week, Citibank opened a new branch on Copa. It is on the same street as Blockbuster but 3 blocks in the Ipanema direction. It is right cross the BodyTech and a few meters away from Monchique. There is also a HSBC ATM cross the street. I have gotten bad exchange rate at this HSBC location.

I avoid the Citibank next to Blockbuster at all cost. At afternoon, there are so many mongers taking out cash that there is a line. Standing in the line with the people I saw at Help is very strange.

El Austriaco
05-26-06, 22:11
I avoid the Citibank next to Blockbuster at all cost. At afternoon, there are so many mongers taking out cash that there is a line.
I feel the same way about the Citibank ATM at Blockbuster. IMHO, something is bound to happen there sometime soon, it is so obvious how many gringos use it and leave with a lot of cash. If at all possible, avoid going after dark (like all other ATMs, it's open until 10 PM) or on weekends, when there is NO guard there (if I remember correctly). If you do, I suggest you have a cab waiting for you and monitoring the area.

At the HSBC ATM that accepts foreign cards (on Av. Nossa Senhora de Copacabana), I was once set up for a "golpe": two "helpful" guys had installed a device on the ATM slot that would retain the card, and one of them figured out my access code. This was on a Sunday. By the time I went back when they opened on Monday morning to retrieve my card, they had withdrawn/charged USD 600.00. Didn't cost me a thing since insurance paid, but was a major hassle nonetheless.

In past years (like in the summer of 2004), I used to find at least one Banco do Brasil ATM that would work with foreign cards at the different branch offices along Av. Nossa Senhora de Copacabana or on Siqueira Campos (just below L'Uomo), but not anymore. Very strange.

Lessons learned: don't use ATMs outside of regular business hours or after dark and try to avoid using them on weekends.

EA

Zorglub
05-27-06, 01:02
OK guys,

Please spare me any lectures, but I would be much obliged if anyone could tell me where I can find bbfs action in Rio. Please reply soon or send me a private message if you are sqeamish about this topic. I will be here only another 3 days! Thanks in advance for any info on this--and in retun, I will tell you what I know about this topic, which is quite a bit, in a variety of coutries, but this is my first trip to Brazil!

Did you say russian roulette ?

Dollars
05-27-06, 01:05
This week, Citibank opened a new branch on Copa. It is on the same street as Blockbuster but 3 blocks in the Ipanema direction. It is right cross the BodyTech and a few meters away from Monchique. There is also a HSBC ATM cross the street. I have gotten bad exchange rate at this HSBC location.

A CitibanK across from Monchique? Fantastic. Nice to hear. Monchique is my favorite eating spot. All you can eat Churascurria and very very cheap. This will save me the long walk to the Citibank ATM next to Blockbuster.

Zorglub
05-27-06, 01:05
Dennis that's the sixty four thousand dollar question here. Even the people who work for Help or who work in Help don't know the answer to that but my impression is that YES Help is closing we just don't know what day and what year, maybe it has another year or 5 or 10 or hopefully 20.

You say that YES , it will closed .But how do you know that ?

I mean that rumor has been going on for so long that I don`t beleive it anymore.

Dollars
05-27-06, 01:06
Try Termas 64. As of last Tuesday, that's where she told me she'll be until June 15.

Termas 64? Where is that or do you mean Termas 65 across from 4x4?

Dollars
05-27-06, 01:10
Suyara? The girl I was looking for has moved on. This is what I was told.

IBZ

Paula and Briana (they play tag team in MC), who are now in Madrid for the summer told me she was supposed to be in Madrid from May until September. Only God knows if she made it.

FWIW, Some of the best talent Rio has to offer are currently in Madrid!!

Rio Bob
05-27-06, 02:27
You say that YES , it will closed .But how do you know that ?

I mean that rumor has been going on for so long that I don`t beleive it anymore.

Help has been open since about 1983; I was there when it first opened. I say it will close not based upon any empty rumors that have been floating around but based upon the fact that no place will stay open forever someday it will close and at this point we just don't know when.

I have seen other clubs open and close in Rio as well, for example Hippopotamus in Ipanema, Crocodile in the othon palace hotel, Regines in the meridian, Chikos Bar in Lagoa and Peoples in Leblon, someday Help will close as well we don't know but I hope it's not any time soon.

Zorglub
05-27-06, 03:16
Help has been open since about 1983; I was there when it first opened. I say it will close not based upon any empty rumors that have been floating around but based upon the fact that no place will stay open forever someday it will close and at this point we just don't know when.

I have seen other clubs open and close in Rio as well, for example Hippopotamus in Ipanema, Crocodile in the othon palace hotel, Regines in the meridian, Chikos Bar in Lagoa and Peoples in Leblon, someday Help will close as well we don't know but I hope it's not any time soon.

OK, from that perspective, everything will close and we will all eventually going to die.

Seriously , I sure hope it`ll stay open, but if it should close that sure would not be the end of mongering in Rio.

By the way , my first trip in Rio was in 1984 and Help did not look like now if I remember well.

After that , my next trip was 2002 (big gap) , but went 6 times since that.

Sprite13
05-27-06, 06:07
A while back, Sperto provided a list of places:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=447086&postcount=548

Then recently, I added a few more:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=458751&postcount=935

Here's one of my posts of MV 30:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=458757&postcount=937

And here's a lengthy one on 502 (and other stuff):
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=462182&postcount=1033

For other Termas (4x4, Cancun, etc.), check the Bubba Guide: they are documented extensively. Hope this helps.

EAThank you very much EA. Much appreciated. Now, would you also be able to recommend some good hotels in Centro?

Valeu.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.

Sperto
05-27-06, 12:41
OK guys,
Please spare me any lectures, but I would be much obliged if anyone could tell me where I can find bbfs action in Rio. Please reply soon or send me a private message if you are sqeamish about this topic. I will be here only another 3 days! Thanks in advance for any info on this--and in retun, I will tell you what I know about this topic, which is quite a bit, in a variety of coutries, but this is my first trip to Brazil!
BBFS with brazilian pro's?
Kamikaze...
If you have a deathwish you propably can get it at VM if you pay extra.

Dollars
05-27-06, 19:45
i just heard today from the grape vine that help is closed. please anyone in rio right about now should confirm this blastfemy.

i tell you, these rumors will be the end of us. i'll be there next friday and i'll give an update on the main spots.

Orpheus I
05-27-06, 21:10
Went to helpi yesterday. Is still open but getting worse. It is better to hit the thermas then go for Baronetti(Ipanema). Therma girls like to go there.

Craftyone
05-28-06, 00:21
Fellows;

I was wondering if any of you has some info to share about swing clubs in Rio, such as:

Name of place
How it functions
Contact info with GDP that will escort your there
Etc..

I've been to swing clubs in both Sao Paulo and Belo Horizonte, and it was a blast.So i am sure Rio must have it own share.

ThanksI've been told that the usual clubs in Barra are strictly swing on weekends.

The only one I've been to so far is:

Praia Club 400 at Avenida do Pepe, 400. Barra Da Tijuca.

Swing nite is Saturday/Sunday and most of the girls are up to the action but you need to go there during the week to set up a meet with them before you venture off there...unless you already have a girl in mind. Don't expect to get in without a girl either, but most of the locals carry "400" girls with them.

You can consult BB's 2006 guide (#3) for any particulars.

The only thing I will add to his post suggestions is that Friday has actually been pretty crowded with girls, but after 11pm.

If you find a couple to play with I would personally split the presidential suite as it is roomier for more persons and had better seating/play room.

As it is located on a one-way street, make sure you have a ride set-up before you depart is it is late. Taxi's, etc...are a rarity after 1-2am on that strip. They do have club drivers, but I find on swing night that they are quite busy.

Hope that helps.

C1

The Corn Hole
05-28-06, 00:25
OK guys,

Please spare me any lectures, but I would be much obliged if anyone could tell me where I can find bbfs action in Rio. Please reply soon or send me a private message if you are sqeamish about this topic. I will be here only another 3 days! Thanks in advance for any info on this--and in retun, I will tell you what I know about this topic, which is quite a bit, in a variety of coutries, but this is my first trip to Brazil!

Brazil is a little different sex scene than SE Asia (where there are many girls who don't even know how to use a condom). If you really want to fuck pros without in Rio I'm sure you could find some but most would want more money, probably even double what most mongers normally pay. For me personally, that's a little too much for an STD.

Ibiza007
05-28-06, 00:52
100% for sure was open last night, at least until 3am when i left, ft can you confirm? i lost track of you guys. hope you had fun.

ibz


i just heard today from the grape vine that help is closed. please anyone in rio right about now should confirm this blastfemy.

i tell you, these rumors will be the end of us. i'll be there next friday and i'll give an update on the main spots.

Jmioffe
05-28-06, 02:25
I'll be in Rio again for a week starting on June 1.

In visits past, I haven't spent all my time nailing providers, and I may not this time either, so I'm soliciting some ideas here.

What my habit has become is to hit L'uomo or Centaurus about one night out of five -- but when I go, I tend to spend the full day/night there and get off quite a few pops. And then I feel like I've been shooting fish in a barrel, get a little guilty for coming all this way for just that, and having entertained my little head, my big head wants to be entertained, so I do other stuff.

I thought it might be fun to see an escort or pull a Help girl, but I've usually stayed with friends or at a hostel to meet people and do non-sex tourism -- so renting a place would take me out of that environment and cost quite a bit more too. I suppose I could always visit a love hotel, right?

I've seen most of the sights in Rio and am looking to see a little more of the country. Any suggestions on where to go -- and perhaps find a little play too?

What would you do if you were in my shoes? Seven days. Let's say $500 budget for non-food, non-room fun. I'm in my thirties and still have some game, but have only basic Portuguese. I've been to Meia Pataca, but I'd like to think I blend in. I certainly don't come off as a dollar-slinging American exec.

Finally, what are the rates and hours at Centaurus and L'uomo nowadays? Entrance, 1 girl, 1 girl deluxe and dupla? Suggestions for a dupla show?

Thanks!

Rio Bob
05-28-06, 03:36
i just heard today from the grape vine that help is closed. please anyone in rio right about now should confirm this blastfemy.

i tell you, these rumors will be the end of us. i'll be there next friday and i'll give an update on the main spots.

this is so crazy, when i read this i emailed a friend in rio and he says the same thing everybody else says that help was open last night but the current rumor is that it can close any day now, stand by.

Mangera
05-28-06, 05:08
just curious, what would actually happen if help were to close? what would all of the freelancers do or where would they go instead of helpee? anyone have some insight or opinion on this possibility?

have any help fans spoken to any of the ladies that work there, to see what they would do for $ if it were to close?

El Austriaco
05-28-06, 06:03
just curious, what would actually happen if help were to close? what would all of the freelancers do or where would they go instead of helpee? anyone have some insight or opinion on this possibility?

have any help fans spoken to any of the ladies that work there, to see what they would do for $ if it were to close?
if help was closing, which i seriously doubt will happen in the near future, i guess that, at first, the girls would try to just move operations to the other places where tourists hang out. obviously, veranda help would get even busier, unless it was shut down, too. many would spend the whole night at balcony, which is usually a late night stop for many girls, anyway. most likely, i think meia pataca (mp) would stay open longer than around 11 right now. some could move on to the termas, which might increase staffing. some new gringo termas might open, possibly? girls would flock to franks, barbarella, pussycat, cicciolina, etc., in all likelihood. some would try to work abroad.

i think in the long run, some girls who find that the tourist dollars are harder to come by would simply do what some of them do now, anyway: rotate to other areas of the city to work. vila mimosa, centro, lapa, wherever.

how many girls are in help during busy season, perhaps 500? overall, given the sheer magnitude of p4p in rio de janeiro, i think the disappearence of help would hardly have any impact on the overall p4p scene in rio de janeiro. it sure would impact p4p in copacabana, though, no doubt about it.

all of this, of course, is pure speculation of mine, but i am very sure that the girls wouldn't simply quit, of course. but this might be a moot point, anyway. last time i talked to some help gdps, which was exactly one month ago, nobody had heard anything about help closing. whenever i asked, they just said "well, the same rumor again and again." neither of the waiters at veranda help knew anything about it.

ea

Cachorro
05-28-06, 11:48
Could also happen that a regular club gets GDPs coming in bit by bit.

Baronnetti is a place that has been rumored to have a clan of GDPs working it. This was mentioned to me by a local Carioca girl with no connection to the pro scene, so it must be pretty obvious.

If Help disappears then plenty of other venues would love the sex tourist business. Lots of customers, 7 nights a week. 20 reais per person at the door and free spending on drinks cause they're on holidays.

BH Bound
05-28-06, 18:46
Most GDP's go out to regular clubs on their "off" days and will not be as aggressive or friendly as when they are in Help. Of course, it varies from girl to girl, but its a general rule of thumb that whenever anyone isn't working or having to please a customer, their true personality is revealed, whether it's good or bad.

BH Bound
05-28-06, 18:48
And Baronetti is one of the hottest clubs in Rio. I don't think the management would let it become overrun with gringo tourists looking to pick up hookers. At times, they book international DJ's such as Ferry Corsten, Fatboy Slim, etc, and entrance turns into 150 or 200 reais.

Full Throttle
05-28-06, 22:27
First, some very sad news.... I spent some time yesterday developing a very comprehensive report. The complimentary computer at the hotel experienced a glitch, and everything disappeared-- forever. Re-creations are never as good.

For those of you who shy away from meeting up with board members, terrific opportunities are being lost. Ibiza007 was kind enough to meet my long-time wingman and I at the Balcony Bar on Sunday. He is a genuine, super guy. Around a very busy study/ class schedule, he joined us for pre-terma drinks, helped us with procuring a 60R discount coupon for Monte Carlo, then met us at Help at 11pm and hung until around 1am. Ibiza does a great job speaking with girls. He remembers everyone's names, learns where each girl is from, flirts without leading them on unnecessarily and represents our group quite well. I hope we can hang out next month.

Monte Carlo is a terrific terma. There was an acceptable number of girls and, while busy, a reasonable ratio of garotas to guys. Of course, two girls welcomed/confronted us as we entered the main lounge area. I've gotten quite good at this part of the game. I will spend 10-15 hot-and-heavy minutes with a girl, then tell her that I'm not in town very often, and want to enjoy meeting several girls before making a decision. They feign sadness, but usually respect the decision and give me some space. It is important that you convey that you have every intention of ultimately having a session, you just enjoy making the decision with whom over the span of an hour or two. This isn't a blanket recommendation for everyone, but it works well for me.

So, after cycling through 3 girls, my wingman of 15 years (TJ, Vancouver, Costa Rica, Sao Paulo, Buenos Aires, California, Florida, and Panama) did me in. Perhaps the prettiest girl there (bad sign) plopped down between us and immediately engaged in some symbolic raunchy behaviour, including having me vigorously rub her p*%$ssy through her bikini. Almost immediately, she began pushing for a foursome with me, my buddy, and his girl.

She made grand promises and hinted at many more, including "hot-swaps," lesbico action, intimate kissing (which wasn't prevalent downstairs), photos, and other esoteric ideeas. I had a bad feeling. In fact, even as we were walking up, I hesitated, told her I didn't think she liked me, and refused to give her my keys. But, she reassured me over and over, then pried the number 24 off my wrist.

Things immediately went downhill in the room. KELLI was absolutely, positively horrible. She is the one and only bad terma experience I've ever had. First, she hid from the camera despite being enthusiastic before. Her friend seemed as perplexed by the change as we did.

Then, she put the kabash on the lesbico action. She claimed that she didn't want to do it after my buddy's oral exploration. Next, she withered away when he tried to touch or fondle her. Worst, she had the condom out within 5 minutes of the session's beginning and tried to give me my first CBJ in Brazil! She eventually gave me a short BBBJ, but only after examining my johnson with the keen eye of a micro-biologist. As soon as she sensed the tiniest natural excrement, she aborted immediately.

Ready to give up the fun stuff, we started with the sex. She dictated several positions. I finally resigned myself to finishing missionary, but that was complicated by the fact that small beads of sweat were dripping off my head onto her precious skin. She winced and complained, and I got up and walked out, buck naked, condom installed blurting, "It's SEX for Christ's sake!!!"

By the way, for those of you who know me, this wasn't an alcohol-induced rage. I had no beers in the terma, 4 total, and none for 3 hours. It just wasn't cool.

In the club, she apologized and I was happy to have had a nice kuma sutra session-- full throttle style. I knew I'd be more than ready for the next girl, wherever she might be.

As for the other girl, MONIQUE, I'd give her about a 7. She was fairly pretty with a fantastic natural body. Mid-twenties, no kids, dark hair, medium skin, beautiful D's, a very pleasant demeanor and none of the hangups of KELLI. She does, however, have the most sensitive nipples and genitalia of any professional girl I've met. Ibiza was 'familiar' with her and agrees on all counts. So, avoid KELLI!!

We mentioned the situation on our way out. The receptionist was shocked. "Why have two girls in a room if you cannot swap?" she asked. Indeed, why? So, the manager promised to take care of us next time, which he did in the form of a free room for my buddy the following night.

The "wild" portion of the night lied ahead at Help, and deserves its own space and more time than I have at present. Bottom line, I wish Monte Carlo was always 190R all-in instead of 250. For that, I'd be there every night of every trip. Still worth an occasional visit.

FT

Mangera
05-29-06, 00:04
Full Throttle, please describe what thief called Kelli looks like. I will be in Rio in about two days for a 5 week stay, and I am sure to hit MC, since I have not been there in my last two visits to Rio. God forbid any members of this board, or for that matter, anyone have to deal with Kelli, "The Bamboozler"!

In fact, I will ask for her during my visit, and teach her how to pronounce "Bamboozler", then take a short walk to the stairs, and at the last minute, as I am about to hand over the key, tell her I changed my mind, and yell out loud "Bamboozler"! Go back to the bar, have a drink with a couple of other garotas and make a toast in your honor (Full Throttle).

Furthermore, I will ask her for her phone # before the scene by the stairs, and after all is said and done at the end of the evenning, I will tell the manager on the way out that Kelli is giving out her phone # like flyers (Just like at a K-Mart parking lot).

Just an idea.

Ezinho
05-29-06, 00:16
Almost immediately, she began pushing for a foursome with me, my buddy, and his girl.

A foursome with your buddy? Damn, I thought I was sick lol.

Anyways, I've only done a few duplas in all my times in Rio, but I noticed that when 2 terma girls are together, they act differently in the room than if you just take one at a time, has anyone else noticed this when they take two girls at once? I'm not sure what it is really, they seem to try to prove to the other girl that they're in charge or something, trying to take control of the session. IMHO, sometimes it's just best to do one girl after the other instead of both at once.

Oh yeah, has anyone here ever done a tripla at a terma, how was it? I don't think I've ever read about triplas on this forum...

Urcarioca
05-29-06, 01:34
I'm not sure what it is really, they seem to try to prove to the other girl that they're in charge or something, trying to take control of the session.Cara,

You should be aware that most of these GDP are lesbians.

Sometimes, they are "working" at the same place and let the "ciumes" (jealousy) get in the business.

Just get a ride to "Show-Bar" in Botafogo, La Girl or Boy Bar in Copacabana, Raul Pompeia, you'll meet a bunch of your favourites there.

Abraço,

Urcarioca

Ibiza007
05-29-06, 03:30
just wanted to confirm that it was nice to meet someone from the board. had a great time drinking a few chopp with ft and his wingman, j .

i lost both of them about 1:00am, but i was there until 3:00. we were just moving in the help perimeter circle in unison i guess. please be sure to give me a pm on your next visit and off to centro it will be, for more adventures.

i almost always have time to meet for a beer with a few days notice.

kelli is blond beauty at mc, she is attractive, physically anyway. the other girl monique, i would recommend, she enjoys herself very much.

so, ft and j, thanks for the helpee entrada, however that worked out, and make sure to call or pm next time your in town. enjoyed the beers and look forward to more on your next visits.


ibz

Bravo
05-29-06, 05:54
If its the Kelli I know from MC, than there is an extremely good reason why she is horrible in the suite. Kelli is a straight up LESBIAN!! Ive met her girlfriend a number of times, real butch looking, thin, braces wearing morena. To be honest, if you didnt speak to her you would have no idea that it wasnt a guy. She has the clothes, look, attitude, swagger, everything of a man (except a penis)

The only reason why Kelli works, is to support her girlfriend. Its a shame, because when she first came on the scene, she absolutely loved fucking. But I guess 3 years of seeing dicks day in and day out in MC, plus being fucked numerous times by porn stars with 15 inch dicks, will change any woman's attitude.

If you think she promises alot in MC, you should hear her in Help. She will make you think that all of your fantasies will come true if you take her home. Once she gets back to your place, she will demand 300R for one hour. Next time Full Throttle, follow your instincts, they know best. You did the right thing by complaining to the management on your way out. Thats one thing that I can say about the manager there, he wont tolerate complaints about his girls giving bad service, you can bet that he bitched her out for it. (Too many complaints and the girls are fired)

Member #4156
05-29-06, 06:09
If its the Kelli I know from MC, than there is an extremely good reason why she is horrible in the suite. Kelli is a straight up LESBIAN!! Ive met her girlfriend a number of times, real butch looking, thin, braces wearing morena.
If she's the same chick hanging out at Meia Pataca walking around sporting a wife beater with her hat turned to the back looking like Ralph Machio then know exactly who that is.

Mangera
05-29-06, 13:49
It will be "Bamboozling Lesbo".

Bravo
05-29-06, 16:28
If she's the same chick hanging out at Meia Pataca walking around sporting a wife beater with her hat turned to the back looking like Ralph Machio then know exactly who that is.

HAHAHAHA! I never thought about it, but she does look alot like The Karate Kid!

When Kelli first came on the scene, she would stay all night for 200R, all the pics and video you wanted. After making a few movies and 4 months in Centaraus, she now wants 3-400R for 1 hour with her. She tried pulling that BS on me one night in my apartment, I promptly handed her 30R and told her to go back to Help.

Full Throttle
05-29-06, 20:24
I appreciate the thoughts on Kelli, particularly the offers of retribution by proxy. The idea that I walked out on a $60 session with a porn star means I've come a long way, and that will be satisfying enough going forward. To clarify, this Kelli is sporting strawberry blond hair, is about 5'3", hair pulled to the side the night I was with her, a near perfect hardened body with natural C/D. A beautiful smile with lips plump enough to have been augmented.

Her best feature is her sister, Larissa. She bounced onto the scene after our somewhat flawed session. Her hair is currently more blond, long and wavy. She has a cat-that-ate-the-canary smile, and is enormously playful. She is a prettier version of the Sex in the City star, whatever her name is.

She took turns with our hands, allowing us to deep throat her, then, with our fingers tickling the back of her throat, she had the control to probe our hands with her tongue. She, too, had a rock-hard stomach, but smallish up top. She was alluring enough to convince my buddy to return the following day for a session. Ironically, it was the poor performance of her sister that allowed him to get the room with her for free. Only in Brazil...

So, the performance was all that he wished for and more. There was a zero disconnection between her floor and room demeanors. She should be the porn star (maybe she is), as she performed her deep throat/tongue tickle trick during the BBBJ, gave a professional, but inspired hj, every position desired, anal offered (but not accomplished), and a BBBJTCNSNQ. I love that acronym. In fact, she consumed everything quite deliberately, and, after one last big gulp, opened her mouth for inspection to ensure nothing remained. Yes, Larissa is the GOOD sister.

Next, back to day 1 and Help...

Dollars
05-29-06, 22:35
Went to helpi yesterday. Is still open but getting worse. It is better to hit the thermas then go for Baronetti (Ipanema). Therma girls like to go there.

Baronetti is one of the worst kept secret in town. Fridays are the best nights. GDPs act snobby but stick with your game because they melt after 3am and speaking Portuguese is a must. The snotty college girls are a bit standoffish but its all a show off for the local guys who hang out there.

Other places to hang out other than Help are Symbols and Passao Republica Cafe in Centro.

Jose Sanchez
05-30-06, 03:20
Day one:

So I have been reading this site for 2+ years and have not really contributed anything. Recently, another member helped me realize that I am only taking and not contributing. So here is my first trip report.

I would consider myself an intermediate level monger. That is to say, that I sort of know my way around the scene, had pros and semi-pros in several countries including Brazil, Argentina, The Czech Republic, Holland, Poland, Germany, China, Hong Kong and the USA. I travel a lot on business, so before I go to a country, I often check this site to determine the scene. The information that people share here and the work that Jackson does in maintaining this site has saves me and many of us I am sure from getting ripped off and in trouble.

This is a trip report of a recent trip I took to Rio the first week of May. It was my fourth trip to Brazil. So I get the scene.

I am a businessperson and in business you learn to summarize the key points before you give you presentation. I figure a seasoned traveler might want to cut to the chase and only focus on a few lessons or observations that I might share. As such, the key takeaways from my trip are:

1. Rio is a lot more expensive that 3-4 years ago. The exchange rate was about 2.1 Real to the Dollar and if you say or eat at high end places you are paying USA prices.

2. The scene at Help was surprisingly good. Two other trips in September and June there was much less action there.

3. 4 x 4 is a notch better than L’oumo or other Termas

4. You must try to get 2-3 girls and rent a suite in a love motel. It was one of the best experiences!

5. Replacement parts for computers, like power cords, are super expensive in Brazil and very hard to find.

6. Renting an apartment from Ken was a good deal and works out well.

7. When calling Travelocity to change flight, do not deal with their call center in India. Use the back door to get to there call center in San Antonio where they have very professional and competent American.

This was a last minute trip. I was only taking it because I had a $1,000 credit on TAM from a trip that I had to cancel last year. Because I had to us it by May 5th, I went ahead and took the time off from work and booked to ticket. It was a nightmare getting Travelocity to change the flight. I keep on dealing with complete idiots in India. Eventually I learned of a way to talk to the call center in San Antonio. If you are have similar problems, PM me and I will share the method.

So before the trip, I contacted Ken to rent a place in Ipanema. I really dislike Copacabanna and much prefer the residential feel of Ipenema. The rental went off without a hitch.

Before the trip, I purchased a Cannon camera with the video and sound feature (link). I think this is a must for mongering. As you can take full motion video of relatively high quality of girls giving you head, banging them from behind, etc. I learn from more info that people might find helpful. I ordered the camera from Amazon.com. Long story short, I thought is was lost on delivery. So I called Amazon to complain. They sent me another Camera without a problem. The next day, I found the missing camera in my mailbox. So I have two cameras now. I sort of feel bad that I basically stole a camera from Amazon.com but, I will sent it back. Amazing how I can do things that are morally questionable to many people, like pay for sex, yet I cannot steal from Amazon.com.

So I took the day flight from Maimi and changed plans in San Paulo. A couple of noteworthly thing happened in San Paulo. First, I realize that I had left my charger to my computer at my house. No this is customary as I leave something on every trip. Unfortunately, I play silly video games on the flight down and used up all of my Batteries but like 30 minutes. I save all of my travel info on my computer, so those 30 minutes were critical if something went wrong and I needed any travel info. After searching in vain for a store to that might sell a dell power charger… who am I kidding. Fortunately, a really nice guy let me charge my computer with his adapter for 20 minutes or so. I also exchanged some money. If you were wondering, there are no ATMs in the international transfers section of San Paulo airport.

I landed in Rio around 11:30 pm or so. Rodrigo, the Ken’s driver picked me up. Immediately after landing, I headed up to the ATM machines as I always do to get money. They are located on the second floor way to the left if you are facing the gates. Great brazilian business people to put all of the ATM machines in one place. Well as with the last time, the machines did not work. Recently, I heard from a friend that they shut down ATM machines in San Paulo after a certain hour to reduce kidnapping. Apparently, people are kidnapped and brought to ATM machines to get money.

So I had a semi serious money issue. I was working my ass off before the trip and did not have time take out money from the ATM machine in the USA. So I only had $400 or so, plus 100 Euros and 40 pound. Left over money from other trips that I take in emergency situations like this. I can always convert that money. Here is the problem… I need to take a car service to the airport and given I live very far from the airport that cost me $275. No… I need to hit and ATM machine, alsa… short connections, no ATMs, no Money until Rio…. Let’s see how this plays out.

I paid Ken 100 reals for round trip. This is more expensive then a cab, but Ken gave my key to Rodrigo and it was just easier to do it this way. So I arrive at the apartment I rented (link) about 12:15. The place was nice. It admittly did not look as good as the pictures, but the location was amazing. About 2 block from Centuraus and right on Place de General Izario (Sp?). There is a supermarket across the street too. The best part of the place is that there was a mirror on the wall at an angle over the bed to give you a good views during sex. There could be not other purpose for the mirror but to watch sex… that is awesome.

I was ready for some fun, but I basically only had a few reals and $150… not exactly the war chest for mongering. I do not like taking cabs to any other Termas but Centeraus at night, but Centeraus sucks when it was crowded and it was a Saturday night… The best option for me was Help, even though I had bad experiences the last few times I went. So I went to Help. It was kicking… Just amazing talent. I like girls who look like girls next door. My preference is the semi-pro help girl. So I look for girls who are dress like a regular night out, not were everything hang out. I found the one cute, tall, dark haired girl. She was rather shy. After hitting on her for a while, we were about to agree on a deal and so guys she was with last night roled in and she said she needed to go. I got her number.

A little later I met my love. A petite, bubble thing who was wearing jeans and a halter top. Her name was Anna Katrina. No I have little negotiating power as I pick 1-3 girls I want and there focus on them. We went back and forth and agreed on 300 reals. I made a really good choice. Her tits were amazing and ass was to die for. I have posted some picture on the picture pages. We got down to business quickly. She gave me a BBBJ for a little bit, while I played with her tits. I was super turned on. She then took her bottoms off and sat on my cock in such a way that let me see her ass working my dick from the mirror. She bounced for like 5 minutes…. It was solid. Then I turned her over and “rode” her missionary style. "riding" is what my girlfriend calls is when I fuck her missionary style.

Anna was really getting into it. I was full of so much energy that she basically fell of the bed from the pounding and was lodged between the bed and the wall. Image this, Anna crouched with her head and shoulder on the ground, butt against the side of the bed, her legs bent touching the wall and spread wide open. I split her legs and pound her using the wall as a support. She later told me that she loved that position and wanted to do it again. We moved back to doggie and finished. We talked for while. Anna is super sweet and just really nice. She was still horny and wanted to go again. I was not on Vitamin V so the second time was tough. Nevertheless, she was super hot and horny. The best part about Brazil, is that the Brazilian girls really like the sex. Anna was no exception. So we did it again, a little tittie fuck on Anna’s suggestion too. I could not shoot a 2nd time unfortunately. We fell asleep together.

On my past mongering trips, I have always fallen for a girlfriend type. Anna was my girlfriend for the trip She left a about 4 am and I paid her $100 + 40 reals. I would plain to meet with her again.
Looks 9, Action 9, Attitude 9.

Please note that I will not post picture that reveal too much about the girl unless she says okay. Anna’s mom thinks she is an actor and I would hat for one of Anna’s friends to find the picture on the web and show her money. She is a real sweet hart.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.

Jose Sanchez
05-30-06, 03:21
Day 2 :

The next morning was Sunday. I woke up early, went shopping and went to the beach. It was crowded because it was a Sunday and there were lots of nice views. Around 4:00 pm I decide to walk to L’uomo along Copa. For some reason on most trips, that is the first Termas I go to. I got a massage to start. So I got naked on the massage table, with the Cialas pumping and thinking about the sex I would have, I had a ranging hard on the entire time. She rubbed front and back in the professional way while I dick was a flagpole. I felt bad because I am sure she found this a bit akward, but I could not control it.

I had two sessions there. A tall thin brunet (name?) and a thin tall blond that I had my eye on since I walked in. The Brunnet was great. She ass was tight and cute. She went down on me right way. I positioned her so that her ass was in the mirror and I could watch her blow me and her pussy lips in the mirror. I love when I woman moves her ass when she is giving head. We moved to conventional positions. I blew in doggie again. During the pillow talk session, we heard the neighboring guy bang the shit out of a girl and her scream in pleasure. I was cracking up. The Brunnet said told me it was a well hung black guy by describing him as a Pinocchio. Looks 8, Action 8, Attitude 9. I do not have a picture from the blonde, but she was fun too. Look 8, Action 8, Attitude 9. At L’uomo I met a bunch of cool mongers. Four of them I later saw at Help and we hung out a couple of more time. If you have every been concerned about leaving L’uomo at night, a Monger who is a retired guy from California, showed me how to ask for the security guard for the shopping center to walk you to the cab. Just as the people at the door for help and tip a couple of reals. The other thing I learned is that you should really tip

I went home and slept early.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.

Sperto
05-30-06, 06:36
Other places to hang out in other than Help. Look up Symbols and Passo Republica Cafe in Centro
Make sure you go to Symbol on a Wednesday, "Noite dos solteiros", singles night. Free buffet, crowded, good music and beautiful girls (regular girls). Go early and don't waste any time. About 21 hs it seems like all the nice girls are taken.

Plan B: Florida Bar, Praça Mauá.

Toshw2
05-30-06, 21:10
HAHAHAHA! I never thought about it, but she does look alot like The Karate Kid!

When Kelli first came on the scene, she would stay all night for 200R, all the pics and video you wanted. After making a few movies and 4 months in Centaraus, she now wants 3-400R for 1 hour with her. She tried pulling that BS on me one night in my apartment, I promptly handed her 30R and told her to go back to Help.I think I may know this garota as well, do you know any films that this girl has starred in so I can see her visually?

Toshw2
05-30-06, 21:59
FYI - there's a new Help website up and running:

http://www.discoteca-help.com/html/eng/index.htm

Rio Bob
05-30-06, 22:18
make sure you go to symbol on a wednesday, "noite dos solteiros", singles night. free buffet, crowded, good music and beautiful girls (regular girls). go early and don't waste any time. about 21 hs it seems like all the nice girls are taken.

plan b: florida bar, praça mauá.

yes several years ago i went to symbol, my plan b was help.

today my portuguese is better as you most likely will need it, not much english spoken there.

i got there about 7 - 7:30, wasn't too crowded yet, big free buffet, i ate had a couple of drinks, the ladies started to roll in. many couples of ladies and big groups. as the night progressed the place was jam packed, i spoke to a couple of ladies but none seemed too interested in just having a drink and just going back to my apartment for some tln.

i figured i better not blow the whole night in here and let something more to my speed get away at help, i enacted plan b and all was good.

Gladiator
05-30-06, 22:52
yes several years ago i went to symbol, my plan b was help.

today my portuguese is better as you most likely will need it, not much english spoken there.

i got there about 7 - 7:30, wasn't too crowded yet, big free buffet, i ate had a couple of drinks, the ladies started to roll in. many couples of ladies and big groups. as the night progressed the place was jam packed, i spoke to a couple of ladies but none seemed too interested in just having a drink and just going back to my apartment for some tln.

i figured i better not blow the whole night in here and let something more to my speed get away at help, i enacted plan b and all was good.

that’s funny, something similar happened to me a couple of years ago on my only visit to symbol, maybe i got there too late as it was around 9 pm, my plan b was terma luomo.

the place was really packed, loads of tits pressed against my body as i walked through the masses. varied fauna: from teenagers to grannies, most of them sub-average but a few good-lookers with a herd of horny brazilian guys surrounding them. extremely hot, ac not very good (providing there was any), i started sweating when i got in and didn’t stop till i left.

finally, at about 11 pm, i was really desperate for feeling, above all, the cool ac of luomo so i moved on to plan b.

Full Throttle
05-30-06, 23:02
Bite me!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.[/QUOTE]

Helpmann
05-31-06, 00:00
In Rio now, but my wingman crapped out on me (won´t do Help or Termas.)

Please reply ASAP!



-Helpmann :)

Papa Wahala
05-31-06, 00:18
Greetings,

Just returned today from my 17 day visit to Brazil (10 days in Rio and 5 in Salvador-Bahia). Had a great first visit and am looking to visit again before the end of 2006.

So many experiences in such short time. The first four days alone was living the life of a celeb with a new girl each night.

Checked out HELP on my first night and could not get passed the door before the girls were either grabbing ass or caressing my cheek with a sweet smile of welcome.

Thanks to my digital, I have memories of my encounters and realized that I spent nine out of my 17 days nine different ladies. Lost five days in Salvador due to the fact that the hotel where I stayed does not allow guests in the room.

While I only checked out HELP on three occaisons, the place is a harem. Every size, shape and coloration is there and with the exception of the music (mostly techno until about 3:00 am), one can spend an entire visit walking between an apartment in the area (I stayed on Rua Miguel Lemos), Meia Pataca and HELP.

Did visit L'Uomo but realized that I am not into the Terma scene. Prefer to get busy in the comfort and privacy of my apt.

I have been partial to Ethiopian women for the past seven years but this first visit has opened my eyes to another world that I wan to get back to once I nail down Portugese. I relied on my French to get me by but realized that Portugese proficiency will make a great time even better.

Thanks to all those who shared info and gave great insight on the Rio scene.

Off to recuperate from one of the best vacations and mongering experiences I have ever had.

Tchau!

PW

Bimbo Boy
05-31-06, 06:59
Hi guys. I had the opportunity to compare two termas this week.

In Luomo, I hit a gem. All girls were friendly and I was approached by this cute thin girl (I think she's called Ana). Great session, BBBJ, enthusiastic anal, lot of jokes, extra time after the phone rang. A real nice feeling.

The next day, I wanted to try out the famous Centaurus. What a disappointment! The girls were of a lower caliber, all tough-looking, hardened professionnals, pushing for drinks and upgrades, promising a lot ("darling come in the room and I'll kiss you all over..."), pushing you to close the deal ASAP, and actually delivering close to nothing. I chose Patricia. Yuk! Covered blow job, no anal, not even beijos! I blew my load in 20 minutes as I was actually wanting to get out of it all.

When I complained at the cashier's, they just seemed to have heard it so many times that they were not surprized and they did not care.

Luomo feels like a family-run business, whereas Centaurus feels like a factory turning out crappy products and charging a steep price for it. I compare it to McDonald's: crappy food that doesn't do you any good, with the difference that McDonald's is cheap and Centaurus is expensive.

I guess there is a necessity to have such a place to take care of the masses of ignorant mongers that hit Rio.

Cheers

Bimbo Boy
05-31-06, 07:16
Friends, I have now accumulated enough mongering experience in many countries so that I feel confident to state what I think is are absolute rules of mongering.

The Rule N°1 is THE PRICE YOU PAY HAS NO RELATION WHATSOEVER TO THE QUALITY YOU GET!!! Actually it's often the opposite. I have had astounding experiences with girls at the low end of the price spectrum.

As examples.

A super nice independent girl found on Hotside, at the price of 100R$ for 2 hours gave me one of my life's best lovemaking experiences (yes, I wrote "lovemaking" and not "sex performing"). I nearly fell in love with her. She was a real sweetheart, giving it all and asking for nothing. (sorry guys, I will keep her name private).

Another one, Dany from CiaPlus is also a real gem. Incredible soft and perfumed skin in a thin and beautiful package (only her face was average). All of that for 130R$ for 2 hours in the comfortable privacy of my girl-friendly hotel. She did an excellent oral, and bravely took anal even though I was a little too big for her. She did not even complain.

On the opposite end of the scale, crappy Patricia from Centaurus. 20 minutes of unhappy and mechanical sex in a squalid environment, for about 400R$ (310R$ entrance and 85R$ drinks). Or mechanical sex from VIPRJ girls at 400R$ for 2 hours.

Finally, EVERYTIME I paid after the act, then the sex experience was very good. When I paid upfront, then it varied. Sometimes it was very good, sometimes bad, but ALL OF MY BAD EXPERIENCES OCCURRED WHEN I PAID UPFRONT!!!

So rule N°2 is IF THE GIRL WANTS PAYMENT UPFRONT THEN SEND HER PACKING!!

These rules are valid from Brazil to Poland. I have yet to see them disproved

Pipe Layer99
06-01-06, 01:11
This will be my first trip to Rio! Looking for some of you to hang out with and hit the termas and other spots. The trip will be from 20 - 28 Jun. Will anybody be down there during my stay?

BootyTapper
06-01-06, 01:28
Friends, I have now accumulated enough mongering experience in many countries so that I feel confident to state what I think is are absolute rules of mongering.

The Rule N°1 is THE PRICE YOU PAY HAS NO RELATION WHATSOEVER TO THE QUALITY YOU GET!!! Actually it's often the opposite. I have had astounding experiences with girls at the low end of the price spectrum.

Finally, EVERYTIME I paid after the act, then the sex experience was very good. When I paid upfront, then it varied. Sometimes it was very good, sometimes bad, but ALL OF MY BAD EXPERIENCES OCCURRED WHEN I PAID UPFRONT!!!

So rule N°2 is IF THE GIRL WANTS PAYMENT UPFRONT THEN SEND HER PACKING!!

These rules are valid from Brazil to Poland. I have yet to see them disproved

Bimbo Boy I agree with your rules 100%! I have mongered enough to experience both and I agree totally. It took alittle getting used to because of mongering in the US, pay first play second. Now when I got outside the country, its play first and pay second. I will say all my best experiences were play then pay. The price you pay has nothing to do with the quality of the experience. I also made the observation a while ago that the more you pay is directly related to how hard the woman is in the game. If she demands alot of money, get ready for an assembly line experience, she wants to be in and out asap to get to the next monger. If you want a GFE experience from this kind of woman, get ready to pay wifey prices! It was a good lesson learned though because it helped reform the way I play in the US.

Wild Cherokee
06-01-06, 13:49
i just heard today from the grape vine that help is closed. please anyone in rio right about now should confirm this blastfemy.

i tell you, these rumors will be the end of us. i'll be there next friday and i'll give an update on the main spots.i just returned from my six day trip and went to help every night! the number of garotas varied nightly with thursday, friday and saturday being the busiest. however, the selection was excellent every night regardless of volume. a few tried to ask for r250 and r300. i didn't even bother to negotiate. there were way too many garotas and too few mongerers. i knew i'd find better elsewhere. the various garotas my buddies and i brought home were always r150 or r200 tln with "tudo". just a quick bite at bob's (i still can't believe how crazy gdps are over french fries) then off to the apartment via taxi (impanema).

i will provide detailed reports in the days to come.

Tricktracy
06-01-06, 20:17
I just returned from my six day trip and went to Help EVERY night! The number of garotas varied nightly with Thursday, Friday and Saturday being the busiest. However, the selection was excellent every night regardless of volume. A few tried to ask for R250 and R300. I didn't even bother to negotiate. There were way too many garotas and too few mongerers. I knew I'd find better elsewhere. The various garotas my buddies and I brought home were always R150 or R200 TLN with "TUDO". Just a quick bite at Bob's (I still can't believe how crazy GDPs are over french fries) then off to the apartment via Taxi (Impanema).

I will provide detailed reports in the days to come.Good. I'll be there the 4th. I don't go to Help that much, but for those prices I stop there. I like the escort services (KaraModels) for the "Completíssima", but you're getting "TUDO" from the girls, I'll try it.

Pipe Layer99
06-02-06, 04:34
Trip to Copa 13 -20 Jun. Any players planning to be there during tis time?

DD

Viper10
06-02-06, 17:50
A few things about the pricing when I was down in Rio. A few days I got 2.20 exchange and the other days I got 2.15. I believe you can get a better rate than this if you look around better than I did. I was off to the termas, so I really didn't look around for better exchange rates.

Centaurus adds 10% to the 310R fee if you want to put the whole thing on a CC. Luomo adds 25R to the bill if you want to pay their whole fee on CC.

A few quick things before I sit down and write a detailed report. 4X4 seemed to have more quality of girls this time around. Plenty of guys of course, but the selections of girls were great. MC is again going down, with only about 20 girls at one time. Luomo selection was great and had friendly girls. In MC and Luomo I never saw more than 10 guys. Centaurus had their usual amount of girls, but seemed to have a little less quality. IMHO, the girls do not seem pushy and rude if you know your spanish and/or portuguese. You just have to tell them what you want. I had several fantastic sessions at Centaurus and believe that at any one terma you can have that one great girl, one great session, which makes you love the place for your whole trip.

I frequented HELP 2 times. Once during the weekend, and once on Monday. During the weekend, the girls asked for 300R and took 200R. On Monday, they asked for 300R and refused 250R. Another asked for 200R and refused 150R. They seemed to have some type of price fixing going on. LOL. Even though this is my 3rd time to Rio, this was my first time going to HELP. I enjoyed it better than I thought I would. Every shape and size, every type of quality, girls in skirts and jeans, what else can you ask for?

I again used Riorentals 4 less. They always hook me up with an apartment on Atlantica or the street Ipanema beach is on(Rua Siquiros?).

I again went to Nuth on Friday night and it was absolutely amazing. So many beautiful Brazilians partying and having a good time. Make sure to have a table reservation and/or get ready to tip to get into the place.

Viper

Full Throttle
06-02-06, 18:05
After walking out of the session with porn-star Kelli in Monte Carlo, I knew I'd be in deep trouble in Help. After meeting up with Ibiza007 on the veranda and scarfing some Pizza Portogeso, which is my favorite Brazilian dish, we made our way to the Help entrance. At 11:59PM, amid stock brokers and commodity traders, we got in. Only problem, somehow in the chaos, we paid twice for Ibiza. No problem, I'd dock it from my bottom line garota price.

While livelier than the previous Sunday, I didn't find nearly as many good looking girls. Of course, my beer goggles were only half on, and I was down on girls in general based on my previous hour's experience.

Help was quite fun. For a spell, a girl came up behind my buddy and started groping him. Shortly, his hands were down her pants and hers his, if that makes sense. Funny thing was that he never turned around. He had no idea what she even looked like. It was probably better that he didn't.

The three of us roamed together and independently all around the facility on both levels. I ran into my "10 minutos mas" girl from 2 weeks before, who I once again teased and dismissed. She explained that others pay her 300R and that's why she wasn't enthusiastic about round 2. I told her she would have made double that from just me over time if she chose to be more enthusiastic. She offered 200R for the night, or double what I paid last time. I told her to go find her 300R mark, and if she was around at 3AM and I wasn't occupied, I'd take her for 100R plus taxi, just like last time. She did extort a beer, then left to search.

Later, I noticed a 90 pound spinner chick flipping me off. I was racking my memory, but couldn't remember how I'd pissed her off. More curious than intelligent, I approached her. She immediately began dancing violently, and sticking her tongue down my throat. There was nothing to like about this girl. In pretty good English, she told me about her horrible Italian ex-boyfriend, smoked constantly, danced eratically, but I hung out with her for a while (did I mention she was kissing and fondling me?). I tried to match her move for move, and was trying to find something attractive about her 1" over-bite, and emaciated frame. It didn't really work.

A convenient opportunity to bail out availed itself when she found out that my buddy and I were sharing a room. That wouldn't due. She wanted me to ride with her drunk ass in her van to her apartment. Why not? How many credit cards should I bring? Also, she wanted 300-350R for the mugging, I can't remember which. So, I bought her a drink and said goodbye… or so I thought.

So, more reconnaissance eventually brought us to Michele and Alesandra. They were friendly and fun. Michele is a little shorter with wavy dark hair, medium skin, C cups. Alesandra a little skinnier and an enhanced D-rack. Michele was the leader, and spoke near perfect English, which is USUALLY an instant turn-off. But, there was something about these girls…

Presently, they revealed that they were sisters. I didn’t believe it for a second, but it made for some fun banter. It turns out that they worked in England for a while, another huge warning sign because English hookers’ service is laughable at best. But, there was something about these girls…

Michele and I seemed to develop a rather strong chemistry. That always happens when they laugh at my jokes. She was a sweet, innocent girl normally. That’s why, when she floated the idea that she wanted me to “fuck her ass,” sister Alesandra immediately scolded her, threatening “to tell mom.” Of course, I asked the obvious question, “Where is mom? How does she look?” These are all bad signs, but there was something about these girls...

I was weighing options. I was getting darn tired. No sleep on the incoming flight the night before, 5-6 beers spread over 8 hours, and the clock indicated that 3AM approached. So, we started discussing price. She started at 400 each. I told her I’ve never paid more than 120R including taxi at Help, which was true, although my sample space was one event. She looked shocked… literally. She dropped a hundred, then made her final offer of 200R plus taxi, which I calculated 208 each, since they would share. I accepted under the condition that I would be with her, she would be with my buddy, I would be with Alesandra, and Alesandra would be with my buddy, PLUS a second session upon waking up. No problem, so off we went.

On the way out, we were practically attacked by the skinny, smoking psycho ho with an overbite that I thought I'd left behind. She basically hit me and told the girls that I had gone with her the night before but didn't pay her. She screamed and raised hell. Fortunately, our girls dismissed her as a raving lunatic. Thank goodness they spoke English. We had a pretty good alibi, as we were probably crossing the border between Venezuela and Brazil when the alleged event occurred.

Once at the hotel, the first pleasant surprise was revealded. They handed me their credentials FIRST, so that I could see that 1. they really were Michele and Alesandra and 2. They had the same last names and mother.

The room activities went quite well, really. Michele seemed more interested in spending the session with me, but she played along and talked nice and dirty when my buddy ravaged her orally while Alesandra was in the shower. “Look, he has his tongue in my asshole!” Well, better his than mine, I suppose.

When Michele went in to shower, she made me promise that only we would be together. While a violation of contract, things were going well, and I didn’t really balk. After moving her way down my standing body in the brightly-lit bathroom wearing nothing but a hat and sunglasses, she started with a brief bj, then turned me around, and had me lean into the shower for some inspired salad-tossing. At that moment, I knew there really was something about these girls…

Then, she wanted to shower so that “I could eat her pussy.” I left the bathroom, to find my buddy going to town on Alesandra. Like a crazed girl in a Rocco porn flick, she beckoned for me and my Johnson to come to the bed. She was sucking it before I even got there, I think. So that I wouldn’t violate my informal agreement with Michele, who, after all, did have her tongue very recently in my backside, I retreated to my bed when I heard the faucet shutoff.

The next couple of hours were a lot of fun. We didn’t mix because Michele, who speaks better English than I, apparently was confused about the swapping agreement. Whatever, I didn’t care. That apparently applied mainly to intercourse, and we had plenty of fun doing other stuff. Alesandra played an innocent child’s role through the hours. Far too loudly for the hotel room walls, she would screech and scream and tell us that she was a bad little girl and needed to be phucked!….”

The endings were especially memorable. Both have evidently seen only the best porn films, and did their very best to emulate the money shots. Michele availed her mouth, tongue and face for the drenching, and literally consumed every errant drop. For my buddy’s ending, Alesandra SCREAMED for me to come see him finish on her face, which I did.. and he did.

It was now 5:30. With the concurrence of my wingman, we released the girls to go home. I was DEAD tired, and didn’t want to share a double bed. Of course, I slept crappy anyway and woke with a woody, so I was somewhat regretful…

So, how are things going in the States?


FT

Rio Bob
06-02-06, 22:28
But, there was something about these girls…
FT

Wow this was great, Im gonna remember those names. Thanks

Wild Cherokee
06-03-06, 00:47
Exchange Rates: Per USD, GIG airport cambio/exchange gave 2.19, Help gave 2.20 at the door, exchange in Impanema 2.25, HSBC and Citibank 2.25, and on Friday (5/26) 2.35 at Ely’s Tour located at Av. N. S. de Copacabana, 259 (around the corner from the Copacabana Palace). Later in the day they lowered it to 2.19, go figure. I think they did so to keep the rate lower over the weekend. A carioca advised me that all exchanges lower their rates after 3p or so. I learned my lesson on exchange rates. It is best to shop around!

Best Cheap Buffet: Churrascaria de Kilo, Av. N. S. de Copacabana - 15 Reais for ALL you can eat. This place was always packed as the food was excellent and the selection good.

Best Cheap & Dirty quicky: Small private place in an office building at Av. N. S. de Copacabana, 583 sala 204 - The door was reminiscent of a safe house in some drug dealing movie, but what opened the door immediately alerted my friends and I of the secret treasure that we had stumbled upon. 8 sex crazed GDP's of various sizes, shapes and complexions. One definite 10.0, one definite 9.0 and the rest were between 7 and 8 depending upon your taste. I immediately grabbed the 10... a 5'10 Brazilian goddess with a somewhat Asian face but a bunda and breasts that defy traditional Asian stock. I winked at my friends as one grabbed the 9 and the other chose a duplo with two 8's. Pricing was as follows (hand written on small sheet of paper):

No Entrance Fee
20 min R60
30 min R80
40 min R100

30 min duplo R100 (I believe this was a special tailored for us due to the fact that we were the only guys in the place).

The rooms were small and did not look very clean but a passionate stand up followed by porn style doggie was still possible.

Buying in Brazil: My carioca advised me that in Brazil it is standard to ALWAYS refuse the first price given to you by a vendor, GDP, taxi flat rate, etc. I followed her advice during one day of shopping in Impanema and Copa. I saved LOADS. Furthermore, she stated that it is best if you have a Brazilian wrapped around your arm. It keeps everyone more honest with you.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.

Ibiza007
06-03-06, 04:04
In the name of science, I thought I would get to the bottom of the OGLOBO classified section for GDP, with an emphasis on Copa.

I started calling #'s Wednesday, today is Friday.


1. Vitoria - 3285-9292 , N.S. Copacabana, 583, apt 1108
very nice, not really beautiful but kinda cute, a bit chunky, and really, really likes sex. Excellent BBBJ, very long session. R$80.00 hr, nice. I went Wednesday and Friday night, both times , solid performance.

This is the same building as the two other small massage places, on the second floor, just the 11th floor ,and it is private, one girl only, Vitoria B-Z, no A

2. Julianna 2247-7278, 1032 NS ave copacabana, call for apt #, 8th floor, this place is 3 minutes from my apartment. I went Wednesday and Thursday night, skipped friday night. Her attitude was pretty shity at first. Though it would suck, but she came around and the second time was better. She is for sure on the list , as she is 3 mniutes away and works 24/7. R$100 per hour. I would recomend this place as it is 5 minutes from HELP, you could pop in, and pop out literally , before help and then you would have better will power at help. A-Z

Thursday - Centro - I had to go there for a meeting and I thought I would check somerthing out. www.amantesecia.com.br or .com Under massage section, Ana Clara - Really nice looking , really great body, and a great personality. 10 - 10 for her enthusiasm, great tits, great ass, R$100 per hour, casa has 4 girls, Ana is the pretttiest, No Sat or Sunday. I went for 90 min for R$150, I just had to have more, drank every drop and more. A- Z.
I walked ther from Carioca station, it is accross PRES VARGAS, from 4x4, address on web site.

I was also going to try Daniella, massagista, and I went to her casa, but she was busy, and I did not have time to wait, She is near Cinelanda metro 10 minutes away.

Ana Clara - I will go back,as this girl is hot, easily could work at 4x4. Half the price as 4x4, and gave a great massage durring down time. Funny , skinny massage tables, but alowed for some interesting new positions.

Friday - Oglobo classifieds, 12:00pm
Ianca - Copa - 9177-8864, Plus sized black lady, 30 anos, for those with bunda fetish , this is your girl, A-Z, decent massage, Oral for a good 30 min, her mouth looked like one of those blow up dolls when finished, permanently in the OOOO position. She has a great attitude, I almost walked out at first, it is her privat casa. But I figured I would give it a shot, as I vow to try every Oglobo house in Copa this week. R$60.00 ph , you can not go wrong for this price. Address #90 Barrata Ribbeira, near princess isabella, Apt 1103. She is really fun, but has a big ass, and a big smile.

Friday - 2:00 pm. Alicinha- 3903-0916, #500 Ave NS Copacabana, apt 407, R$100 per hour. This is a good place, two girls were really nice, but I have no idea what anyones name is. The address for this place is the same place as the ad for Tatiana - 3183-5512, Just ask for Mila, she is tall, from Bahia, and very good, A-z , with a smile on her face the whole time. I visited about 30 minutes after Ianca sucked me dry twice, I should have waited , as the fluid level was totally spent, But I will definitely go back, and I will figure out the names, whatever they are. Ask for Mila, nice tits, a nice ass, and a great smile. Problem here is no discount for 2 hours, must pay $200.00.

8:30 pm, I had to go to HSBC to get money and was right next door to 583 NS copa, so off I went to see Vitoria again, R$80,00 hr, and she was great again,

Friday - Tania - 2522-9839 , Xavier de Silveria, MY STREET, she live two minutes away, I called her and she implied she was more of a massagista, she is 40 years old, but in the name of science I will subject myself to her for a massage, If she is good at massage, no harm done.

Fabiana- 11AM. My first stop, I called, was told to wait 20 min, I waited and went to the address, A girl answered the door and I said "FABIANA", yes, and she replied yes, I showed her the ad, 1,80 m and blonde, this girl was1,50 and morena, so i said, Well your not Fabiana, as she said she was at first, then she quickly changes to say Fabian was busy and I should come back in an hour, she said sorry sorry, desculpa... I was pissed, as it was a bait and switch. I will check this out again, As I am interested in a 1,80 m blonde, which is rare in copa. If a 1,80 m blonde is there, I want to see her.

These things take time as you have to go to these places and it takes a while, but, I am goingto getthe skinny on every private in Copa. I think there will be about 30-50, including Oglobo and Hotside.com.br copa girls.

In Oglobo there are about 20, some have links to the net, so I ma waiting to look at the photos before I decide if I wil even go to the door.

Tomorrow will be busy, hopefully another triple, same as today, all new candidates, no repeats. All in the name of science......

Saturday, may not be very productive, as many do not work on Saturday.

IBZ

Jasss
06-03-06, 12:09
Can anyone shed some light on varig, Is it going to stop flying soon? I know that they have been cancelling flights recently both internally and internationally. What the word in the press in Brasil.

Ibiza007
06-03-06, 13:50
If you ever look at destack.com or destack.com.br you will see a massage section. There are about 50 massage paurlors listed, all over Rio, some in Copa. I will work the Copa ones, but I need help to investigate all these places. It would take me 6 months and a lot of cash to check them all out.

There are some real gems listed as Massage casas, as these are all incall, they are a good value.


Citibank - i talked to the people at Citibank and they told me that Citi USA and Citi brasil are totally connected, unlike HSBC, which is totally unconnected.

You can deposit money here in your USA account, and deposit money in the USA in your brasil account, they are the same number and really just one account. Your ATM card and online bank are one, So you do not need a Brasil account with Citi. This is a good option for short term travelers.

IBZ

Delecti
06-03-06, 15:11
Ibiza is correct. I opened a Citibank checking account in Chicago and used it to withdraw money while in Rio. If you use the Citibank ATM's, there are no service charges or ATM fees.

Bravo
06-03-06, 15:26
Ibiza, great work on the private casas, Ive always been interested in these ads in the paper. I have a feeling you live in the same building that I stay at when I travel to Rio (Corner of Leopoldo Miguez and Xavier de Silveria) across from the Princess hotel? I look forward to reading more of your adventures!!

Bubba Boy
06-03-06, 16:25
Man you have to try this chic out, she looks smoking hot in the pics.

http://www.amantesecia.com.br/vanessa/index.htm

Java Man
06-03-06, 17:05
if we all pool our resources, can we raise $75 million in 3 days?

from yesterdays Reuters:

"Varig auction in Brazil postponed until June 8.

SAO PAULO, Brazil, June 2 (Reuters) - An auction to try to sell Brazilian airline Varig (VAGV4.SA: Quote, Profile, Research) has been postponed until June 8 at the request of potential bidders, the carrier said on Friday.

The delay marks the third time the auction has been rescheduled. Varig, which is operating under bankruptcy protection, was first set to go on the auction block in July.

Last week a bankruptcy court in Rio de Janeiro moved the auction up until June 5, in part to thwart attempts by the airline's creditors to seize some of its planes for failing to make lease payments.

That left potential bidders with little time to study Varig's finances and to prepare offers, prompting them to request an extension, Varig said.

So far, at least five companies have paid fees to have access to a data room that Varig has set up for potential bidders to evaluate the airline's books.

They include TAM Linhas Aereas (TAM.N: Quote, Profile, Research)(TAMM4.SA: Quote, Profile, Research), Gol Linhas Aereas Inteligentes (GOL.N: Quote, Profile, Research) (GOLL4.SA: Quote, Profile, Research), a small Brazilian carrier called OceanAir, the Portuguese airline TAP, and the U.S. investment fund Brookefield.

Varig's routes and fleet will be auctioned for a minimum price of $860 million under a plan approved by creditors, the bankruptcy court and the government.

Domestic and international routes will be offered together. But if the minimum price is not met, the foreign and domestic routes will be sold separately. The minimum price for the domestic operation has been set at $700 million.

The winning bidder will be required to inject $75 million into the airline within three days of the auction.

As Brazil's former flagship carrier, Varig is one of the country's best-known companies globally. But it struggled for years, racking up debt and losing market share to more cost-efficient rivals like TAM and Gol.

A year ago, Varig, short for Viacao Aerea Rio-Grandense, became the first major company to seek protection from creditors under Brazil's new bankruptcy law, which allows companies to work out reorganization plans.

Varig, with some 10,000 employees, has more than 7 billion reais ($3.1 billion) in debt. Its creditors include General Electric Co. (GE.N: Quote, Profile, Research), Boeing Co. (BA.N: Quote, Profile, Research) and several state-owned entities, such as oil giant Petrobras (PBR.N: Quote, Profile, Research)(PETR4.SA: Quote, Profile, Research) and the government's airport authority Infraero."

From yesterdays mercopress.com:

"Eleven bidders show interest

Eleven companies have shown interest in acquiring the routes, planes and offices of Brazil’s embattled Varig airline, the carrier said yesterday.

Potential bidders include local companies TAM SA, Gol Linhas Aereas Inteligentes, OceanAir and WebJet, as well as Aero-Lb, a consortium including Portuguese airline TAP.

Varig on yesterday opened a data room, where interested parties can review the company’s business records ahead of Tuesday’s auction.

Varig — Viacao Aerea Rio-Grandense — has been struggling for years, with debts of about eight billion Brazilian reals (USUS$3.5 billion).

The proceeds of the auction will be used to pay debts on operating expenses to allow the airline to continue flying. The auction, originally scheduled for July, was moved ahead because the airline was in danger of shutting down.

Varig’s domestic and international operating assets — which include a fleet of 72 jets, of which only 47 are in operation — will be put up for sale for a minimum price of US$860 million.

The buyer would form a new company, leaving most of the company’s debts with the old company.

As a second option, Varig could auction off domestic routes for a minimum price of US$700 million, again leaving the debt with the old company, which would also remain responsible for international operations.

However, if no bid comes within 10 percent of either minimum price, a second round of bidding will be held with a reduced minimum price of USD $125 million.

But creditors are considering legal action to block the sale, which could scare off potential investors, analysts said.

The National Airports Authority Infraero, federally owned bank Banco do Brasil and BR Distribuidora, the distribution wing of state-controlled oil giant Petroleo Brasileiro, or Petrobras, contend that the second-round minimum price is insufficient to pay off Varig’s operating debts.

Meanwhile, foreign-based leasing companies are pressuring a New York court to allow them to repossess their planes currently in Varig’s service. Judge Robert Drain of a U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Manhattan was to rule yesterday whether leasing companies can seize their planes from Varig.

And federal prosecutors have appealed a court decision that the government must pay Varig 4.5 billion reals (USUS$1.96 billion) in compensation for losses arising from airfare price controls between 1986 and 1991.

Varig remains Brazil’s leading airline on international routes, but has fallen behind TAM and Gol domestically as cash-flow problems have forced it to reduce operations."


go to the gol website:
www.voegol.com
you'll see they've added new routes, like Manaus. they never went there before.

To get the latest news on Varig, google search it. then click "news" above the search text box.

Wild Cherokee
06-03-06, 17:17
Can anyone shed some light on varig, Is it going to stop flying soon? I know that they have been cancelling flights recently both internally and internationally. What the word in the press in Brasil.I was told by my travel agent (BACC in NY) that they are on the verge of bankruptcy. They are trying to stave it off. I was told that they are either a subsidiary of American Airlines or have an arrangement with AA.

I can vouch for the latter statement personally. In Impanema, we met two US tourists (non-mongerers) that had originally booked a flight on Varig. Their flight was cancelled and they subsequently were bumped to an AA flight later in the day.

I was advised by both to avoid Varig completely.

Ibiza007
06-03-06, 19:30
hello bubba, i just tried to call her and she did not answer. maybe she doesnot work saturday. she does not offer private on her site, so maybe she is an escort, outcall only. i wil try again, she looks interesting..

ananda- add ananda, destack.com.br to the list, she is listed under modelos, but it is definitely a massage house. i tried her because she is in copa and is close, 15 min walk maximium. one girl casa, she resembles the girl in the photo, and her tits look the same, but she has put on weight, she gave a real 30 min massage, with soapy water, like a real massuse, then 30 min of sex, she really likes it. she is not particularly cute, but ok , and has big jacks. vocal - goooostooosoooo
1hr r$70, not to bad, tel 9858-4806 ave ns copa, 600 block , call her for info on apt.

i am worn out, but will try one more this afternoon for the team.

i saw a phone booth flyer for a girl for r$20,00, i might have to check that out, i expect very low quality, but you never know...

today in copa - i have never seen this before, in front of the othon palace, in the devils triangle, mia p, othon and helpeee, the sea is really churning today and for the first time ever, i saw waves and water reach the sidewalk on ave atlantica. huge waves today, water all the way the way to the street vendors, unreal...

ibz


man you have to try this chic out, she looks smoking hot in the pics.

http://www.amantesecia.com.br/vanessa/index.htm

Ibiza007
06-03-06, 19:39
I think it is the same building, my address is Leo Poldo Miguez, and I look directly at Princess Copa hotel.

Ibz


Ibiza, great work on the private casas, Ive always been interested in these ads in the paper. I have a feeling you live in the same building that I stay at when I travel to Rio (Corner of Leopoldo Miguez and Xavier de Silveria) across from the Princess hotel? I look forward to reading more of your adventures!!

Bubba Boy
06-03-06, 20:58
hello bubba, i just tried to call her and she did not answer.


wow you are keen, one must admire that ;-)



today in copa - i have never seen this before, in front of the othon palace, in the devils triangle, mia p, othon and helpeee, the sea is really churning today and for the first time ever, i saw waves and water reach the sidewalk on ave atlantica. huge waves today, water all the way the way to the street vendors, unreal...
ibz

that is interesting. apparently, not sure of the exact date, but say before 1950's, avinida atlantica did not exist. the beach went all the way to the first row of buildings. hence i guess this is just another case of man building in the wrong place and nature continuing along its original path.

Jasss
06-03-06, 23:25
cheers for your help on the topic about varig, i hope it dont go bust coz i wanna hit rio soon.

Papa Wahala
06-04-06, 03:36
IBZ,

There were two amazing sand sculptures direclty across from Meiea Pataca on Atlantic Ave as of last week. One was of six garotas on their stomachs with finely sculptured bundas sticking high in the air. The other sculpture was of of ten emaculate Thai-like temples.

Can you advise if these wonderful sculptures survived the tide? A hell of a lot of work went into these pieces d'art and what a shame if they were destroyed by the high tide.

PW

Wild Cherokee
06-04-06, 19:34
IBZ,

There were two amazing sand sculptures direclty across from Meiea Pataca on Atlantic Ave as of last week. One was of six garotas on their stomachs with finely sculptured bundas sticking high in the air. The other sculpture was of of ten emaculate Thai-like temples.

Can you advise if these wonderful sculptures survived the tide? A hell of a lot of work went into these pieces d'art and what a shame if they were destroyed by the high tide.

PWFor those who did not see the sculptures, and may not see them due to high tides.

Ibiza007
06-04-06, 19:52
saturday - last night i continued my quest. i called milena from www.destack.com.br/milena.htm

check her out, she looks pretty nice and was in copa.

i called and went there about 7:00 pm, her apartment is on ave copa, 103 i think, near prada jr., 12th floor.

r$130 per hr. well she somewhat resmembles the hottie in the photo, somewhat, her breasts are saggy and her ass is soft, her hair is bleached, and on and on. basicaly not interested in her trade to much, seemed bored durng down time. it is her casa, and she shares with an amiga. all in all i would cross her off the list.

sunday morning, called ad in oglobo. [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) 3903-0916 , r$80 per hr. this is a weird one, the girl said the address was 594 copa ave, which does not exist. i called form the area of 594, and a girl came to meet me on the street . she shows up and is kinda cute, nice smile, now instead of going to a casa on copa ave, we go to the club at 22 address, club has ben posted about, ( club with music and overpriced average girls) we go in and go upstairs, the room sucked, and i told her i had been to this club before, and the rate for a girl in the club was r$150. hr, not
r$80. she assured me it was r$80, she started talking , some port some english. she never shut up for the hour, had a big ass and ok boobs, then she informed me she was not independent, but worked for an agency, an $r80 per hour agency, not much to split among the parties. now she informs me bj with preservativo, i am losing interest fast. i asked why we were in a (shitty) room in the club 22, the rooms suck, some of the worst i have been in. she said the owners of terma 22 ( terma?) own the agency, and use the rooms during the day.

bottom line, - scratch [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) - oglobo from the list. i am worn out from the test. i found two nice girls in the bunch, and a few so so in the experiment. i will still try some more, as i did not get all of the oglobo copa casas yet, but if the ratio remains the same, i suggest, skipping copa oglobo and going for the massage parlours in centro. ( destack.com.br - massagistas) ana clara is a sweety and mila in copa is really nice.

i will check on the sand figures on the beach ( ave atlantica), but i think they are ok, it was directly in front of the othon were it was bad. someone told me today that last night, the water went all the way to the market in the island on the street , where the art market is at night, i did not see it last night, but today the water again reached ave atlantica when i was walking by, right were the othon palace has their blue porta tent and chairs, the beach is really wiped out right there.

i watched a body boarder that was way out there catch a wave and his ride lasted about 20 seconds vs , the normal 3 seconds. really cool.

taking a break from experiments and sticking to a few regulars and my new friend ana clara and mila.

ibz

Gladiator
06-04-06, 23:29
Ibiza007,

Thanks for carrying out such detailed scientific work, I’ve always wondered what sorts of specimens were hidden behind those paper ads but never had the time (or the willingness) to research it myself. On the other hand, it was one of those few under-reported areas in this forum, so I really appreciate your invaluable research project with those ads.

Keep up the good work!

El Austriaco
06-05-06, 01:29
A while ago, I promised to write a series of reports about the non-P4P (i.e. more touristy) options available in Rio de Janeiro for those that are looking beyond bucetas and bundas, so here you go. For those looking for P4P information in these reports, just skip them, please. There is no pussy information in any of them.

Of course, considering that 99% of the tourists are staying anywhere between Leme and Leblon, with Copacabana and Ipanema being the most popular options, and even stumbling out of MP or Help drunk virtually guarantees that you will see the sea, going to the beach is really a no-brainer, so I don't have to address this issue here. Still, here are some Rio beach pictures for you guys to enjoy from my archives. Pictures for the other tourist attractions, I will post in the respective reports (all pictures 2004 through 2006 (c) EA).

Needless to say, all of these places, including the beaches, are great places to take your favorite GFE.

Photo captions:

1: Sandcastle art, Copacabana.
2: Sunday morning soccer, Copacabana.
3: Sandcastle Jesus, Copacabana.
4: Beach volleyball, Copacapaba.
5: Morro do Leme, Leme.
6: Leme beach, looking back towards Copacabana.
7: Arpoador surfers, looking towards Ipanema/Leblon.
8: Sunset over Morro dois Irmaos, Ipanema.
9: Soccer dudes, Ipanema.
10: Weekend afternoon on Ipanema beach.

EA

El Austriaco
06-05-06, 01:46
Cristo Redentor

Why? To understand why Rio is called the cidade maravilhosa (marvelous city), head straight to the statue of Christ the Redeemer. IMHO, of course, the discussion on whether Rio is the most beautiful city of the world or not starts and ends right there. There is nothing in the world that even compares to the way the big urban sprawl of Rio is laid out at 2300 ft. below.

Facts: The statue of Cristo Redentor (Christ the Redeemer) stands on top of Corcovado (Hunchback) in the Serra Carioca mountains dividing the Zona Norte and the Zona Sul. With a height of 710 m, Corcovado was already a popular spot to catch the panoramic view back in 1885, when the train line opened, even before the statue was inaugurated in 1931. By now, it has clearly become the most popular tourist destination in Rio de Janeiro and a true symbol of Rio de Janeiro and Brazil as a whole. Currently, there is a project underway to get it selected as one of the seven modern wonders of the world. The first time you catch the view from up there, you will know why.

Odd Facts/Tips: It has long been surmised that the outstretched hands of the 38 m high Cristo symbolize the welcoming nature of the cariocas and their city. Less romantic cariocas have responded that it actually neatly divides the city into the have’s and have not’s, with Cristo’s right hand pointing to the rich (Zona Sul), and his left hand to the poor (Zona Norte). I guess both have a point.

When taking a cab straight to the top, you can also stop halfway up Corcovado on Morro Dona Marta, which offers a very close-up view of Sugar Loaf Mountain and Corcovado itself (plus of the Dona Marta favela in Botafogo, made famous when Michael Jackson shot a video there with the approval of the local druglords back in the 80s).

How to get there: There are two common ways (since I don’t recommend taking buses in Rio, I’ll leave this option out):

1) A cab from Copacabana/Ipanema to the Bonde (cogwheel) station in Cosme Velho (located between the two Rebouças tunnels on the way to Zona Norte). Cab fare should run no more than R$ 15.00 one way. Then, you would catch the bonde to go to the top of Corcovado (R$ 30.00 round trip). The train departs every half an hour or so (remember, nothing is ever on time in Rio). Remember to sit on the right-hand side on the way up.

2) Take a cab straight to the top of Corcovado. In this case, I recommend negotiating a fixed fare with the cabbie, including waiting time. This is especially recommendable if you got several people in your party: last time I went with two other people, the overall cost of a three-hour trip was R$ 120.00 (which included the R$ 5.00 NP entrance fee into the Parque Nacional da Floresta da Tijuca). Make sure to stop at Morro Dona Marta, too. There is a helipad where you can book panoramic flights over the area on the spot.

Best time to go: Both morning and afternoon (especially sunset) are equally recommendable... what the heck, go twice (once on the bonde, and once by cab). Just make sure you go on a clear day: the statue is visible from many parts in the city, so just check for cloud cover. Remember, weather conditions on the beach might be entirely different from those on top, so bring a sweater even if you´re sweating down below.

Conclusion: going to Rio without going to Corcovado is like going to Egypt without seeing the Pyramids, or Paris and skipping the Eiffel tower, or to Peru without Macchu Picchu... you get my point. You might have tapped a gazillion Brazilian bundas and hit every single terma in town, but unless you’ve been up here, you haven’t been to Rio at all, in my book. I must have been about six or seven times now, but I know I will always go back, because there simply is nothing like it. No amount of words or pictures can do it justice.

Photo captions:

1: View from Morro Dona Marta.
2: View of the lagoon, Leblon, and Gavea jockey club from Corcovado.
3: On top of Corcovado and Cristo.
4: View of Ipanema from Corcovado.
5: Corcovado from Morro Dona Marta.
6: Lagoa Rodrigo Freitas, as seen from Corcovado.
7: Sugarloaf and Botafogo Bay, from Corcovado.
8: Detail of Christ the Redeemer.
9: Lagoon, Ipanema, and Islands, from Corcovado.
10: The famos view of Sugarloaf, from Morro Dona Marta.

EA

El Austriaco
06-05-06, 01:56
Pão de Açúcar (Sugarloaf Mountain)

Why? Sugarloaf Mountain and its views would be the clear-cut No. 1 attraction in any city if it wasn’t, well, for Corcovado and the statue of Christ the Redeemer. Even so, it is only a marginal second. The panorama of the Serra Carioca, Botafogo Bay, Flamengo, the Santos Dumont Airport, Centro and Niterói on the other side of the Baia de Guanabara as well as the hair-raising teleférico trip are not to be missed at any cost.

Facts: Pão de Açúcar stands at the entrance of Guanabara Bay in Urca. The teleférico was originally inaugurated back in 1913 and overhauled as recently as back in 2002. The trip is made in two segments: the first takes you up to Morro da Urca at a height of 220 m, the second one to the top of Sugarloaf Mountain at roughly 396 m. On Morro da Urca, there is a helipad where you can book panoramic helicopter flights of varying lengths (and at varying rates, of course).

Odd Facts/Tips: As of last March, documented residents of Rio could take the teleférico at half the posted R$ 30.00 fare when donating one kilo of non-perishable foods. Something to keep in mind when taking your favorite garota up there. James Bonds fans may remember the ride from the 1979 movie "Moonraker".

Don’t go to Sugarloaf Mountain without catching some rays at Praia Vermelha below Morro da Urca, just a block from the teleférico station. This is a very small and quiet beach offering spectacular views of Sugarloaf Mountain. Well worth spending an hour or two before or after the ride.

How to get there: the teleférico departs from Praça General Tibúrcio in Urca. Take a cab there (from Copacabana, fare should be around R$ 12.00, not more). On the way back, avoid the shark cabbies offering fixed rates of R$ 18.00 to 20.00 back to Copacabana and simply catch a cab in the streets at the metered rate.

For the outdoorsy types, you can hike up Morro da Urca. For those that are so inclined, you can even climb Sugarloaf Mountain...

Best time to go: Anytime is good, but sunset is especially spectacular... once again, make sure you go on a clear day, though given its lower altitude, weather conditions are not as critical as on Corcovado.

Conclusion: If going to Rio without going to Corcovado is like going to Paris and skipping the Eiffel tower, not going to Sugarloaf Mountain is like skipping the Louvre. More breathtaking views of Rio de Janeiro, something which should also greatly help you to understand how this great city is laid out.

Photo captions:

1: View from Sugarloaf at Sunset.
2: View of Botafogo bay from Sugarloaf.
3: Cable car above Praia Vermelha.
4: Cocovado and Cristo at Sunset, as seen from Sugarloaf.
5: Niteroi, as seen from Sugarloaf.
6: Praia Vermelha beach and Sugarloaf in the background.
7: Corcovado and the Serra Carioca.
8: Pedra da Gavea, Morro dois Irmaos, and the hills of Southern Rio.
9: Aterro do Flamengo and downtown Rio.

EA

El Austriaco
06-05-06, 02:08
Maracanã Stadium

Why? Art, music, dance, and a general joy of life are all characteristic of Brazil in general and Rio in particular, and nowhere else do they blend together in such perfection as in Brazil’s undisputed pasttime: soccer. While for Germans, soccer is the “most important unimportant thing” and for the Italians, soccer is “more important than life”, for Brazilians, it’s truly “more important than death”. I spent WC 2002 in Brazil, and believe me... this is no exaggeration. Soccer has truly religious status in Brazil (it might, in fact, be the only religion all Brazilians agree on), and there is no place where it is celebrated like at its main shrine, Maracanã stadium. A trip to Maracanã is an unforgettable cultural, visual, and acoustic experience to fully understand the passion Brazilians bring to the game and life in general. If you ever wondered why they call it the "jogo bonito" (the beautiful game) in Brazil, that's your place to go.

Facts: Maracanã stadium is located in Zona Norte in the barrio of the same name. Today, unless it is being renovated, it is the home of the four major-league teams from Rio: Flamengo, Fluminense, Vasco da Gama, and Botafogo. Maracanã stadium was the site of Pelé’s 1000th goal, some of Zico’s and Romário’s most famous games, and of course, the place where Brazil’s most lingering soccer trauma took place, the so-called Maracanazo. In 1950, in the final game of the only World Cup to be played in Brazil so far, Brazil only needed a tie to win it all for the first time. Down 0-1 at halftime, however, the resilient Uruguayans managed to score two late goals to win 2-1 and silence a record crowd of more than 200,000 spectators in the stands and an entire nation with it. Despite winning the title a record five times since (1958, 1962, 1970, 1994, and 2002) and being the defending champion, many Brazilians still mourn over the one that got away in the "tragedy at Maracanã".

Odd Facts/Tips: Officially called Estádio Jornalista Mário Filho and built especially for the 1950 WC, Maracanã was for many years the largest soccer stadium in the world. Since its conversion to an all-seats stadium in the 1990s and its most recent renovation, completed earlier this year, however, it no longer is, and it currently holds roughly 100,000 seats. There is a museum with Pelé’s famous No. 10 shirt from WC 1970 in México, among other things like the Jules Rimet Cup. Outside the stadium, there is a statue of Bellini, the captain of Brazil’s team that won its first WC in 1958 - an event some writers have called the "true birth of the Brazilian nation". Yes, they are that serious about it.

Before someboy asks... who is Pelé? The guy who was voted the World's Athlete of the last century by the world's Olympic committees in 1999... despite the fact that he never participated in any Olympics? The guy who Brazilians simply refer to as "O Rei" (The King)? Before you go to Brazil, read this: http://2002.fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/02/en/pf/h/cp/bra/pele.html. No Brazilian will forgive you for never having heard of Pelé.

Try to keep a low profile when attending games, especially in terms of your support of a specific team. Team rivalries run very deep in Rio, you don’t wanna be caught sitting with the wrong spectators. Things get raunchy at Maracanã, especially during high-profile local derbies like Fla-Flu (Flamengo against Fluminense) or championship games. The first time I was there, during a Fluminense/Botafogo game, I had the guy behind me throw his shoes at the referee...

Catching an international match of the Brazilian national team must be as close to mayhem as you´ll ever get. Unfortunately, however, pending the renovations, the Seleção hasn't played there in years.

How to get there: the easiest way to get to Maracanã is probably to take an organized tour, which run between R$ 60.00 and R$ 80.00 for a game, transportation and tickets included. Of course, you can also take the metro to Maracanã station in Zona Norte, walk or cab it to the stadium from there, and buy the tickets yourself. With big crowds, however, getting back afterwards may be difficult and not entirely risk-free.

Best time to go: any game is going to be good to get a taste, although crowds are probably smaller than expected (15,000 to 20,000 usually). Flamengo/Fluminense is always a big draw regardless of how the teams are actually doing, so expect somewhere between 40,000 and 50,000 people. Championship games probably pack the house, although, given the size of the stadium, with organized tours, it’s usually not too much of a problem getting tickets even a couple of days before the event.

Conclusion: if the beach is Brazil’s living room, Maracanã is the cathedral of the most devout and most successful soccer nation in the world. Even if you´re only marginally interested in soccer or not at all, not going would be like heading to Rome and skipping the Vatican. It’s a lot more fun than the Vatican, though... and the crazed chicks are hotter, too.

Photo captions:

1: Flamengo Supporters.
2: Fluminense Little Leaguers.
3: Fluminense Fans at Fla/Flu.
4: Young Flamengo Fans.
5: In the stands.
6: In the stands.
7: A Fluminese 2-1 Victory at Fla/Flu No. 350 (back in 2004).
8: Before the game.
9: Flamengo Supporters.

EA

El Austriaco
06-05-06, 02:18
Take a Favela Tour

Why? Regardless of where you hang out in Rio and which direction you look, the infamous favelas (shantytowns) are an omnipresent reality. Favelas have been a reality in the urban landscape of Rio de Janeiro and many other cities for over a hundred years now and have made huge contributions to Brazilian culture overall: both samba and carnaval would be unthinkable without the favelas, baile funke originated there, and that’s where many of its soccer stars grew up (Romário, Ronaldo, and Adriano come to mind right now, among the cariocas). With between one fourth and one third of Cariocas living in favelas, and the process of favelization continuing to the point that, last year, Rio’s mayor stated that “Rio is now a marvelous city surrounded by favelas”, favela tours offer fascinating insights into a world far away from the riches on the asfalto. IMHO, no trip to Rio would be complete without a glimpse into the life of many of the people that work in the hotels, restaurants, and establishments serving tourists in Rio... to say nothing of many of the girls. A sobering but mind-boggling look, indeed, which will dispel some commonly held myths while doing nothing but add to the fascination.

Facts: there are several operators offering favela tours by now, but the concept was pioneered by Marcelo Armstrong. Back in April, I wrote a detailed description of the tour I took this year: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=450535&postcount=676

Odd Facts/Tips: While in most other cities, the rich occupy the most desirable viewpoints up high, the rich in Rio live below (on the so-called "asfalto"), while the poor enjoy the most fantastic panoramas (especially in Zona Sul, many favelas are located on the hillsides on formerly undesirable plots of land, which were shunned by early developers). The term “favela” has by now acquired a somewhat negative connotation, and many favela residents actually prefer the term “morro” (literally “hill”), "comunidade" (simply "community"), or even better, “bairro”. According to Brazilian law, anyone constructing a dwelling on unclaimed land and living there for five years acquires an unofficial legal title to the land. Currently, several projects are underway to legalize these titles, based on the model of the Favela-Bairro program, a nine-year project started in 1995, in an attempt to tie them into public infrastructure and services.

Please note that these tours are not officially sponsores or even promoted by the Rio de Janeiro tourist board since, as they claim, “they do nothing but portray Rio in a very negative light”. Maybe if the Rio authorities did something against crime and the ongoing growth of illegal settlements everywhere, perhaps Rio wouldn’t have such a negative reputation worldwide? Like it or not, the favelas are here to stay and for real... actually, much more real than the Copacabana glitz. In addition, some of the money generated through these tours benefits local community projects.

Needless to say, and as many have already pointed out, do not enter a favela on your own under any circumstances. Entering in the company of a local resident should be OK as long as you keep a very low profile. For newbies, favela tours are really the only way to go. Also, please be advised that occasionally, for security concerns, favela tours are suspended.

How to get there: I recommend Marcelo Armstrong’s outfit: http://www.favelatour.com.br/rio_de_janeiro_tours.htm, phone number 055 (21) 3322-2727, cell phone 55 (21) 9989-0074/ 9772-1133. As mentioned before, there are other tour operators, including some offering tours in jeeps. Any hotel front desk can book them for you.

Best time to go: any time that public security permits. Still keep in mind, however, that should the shit hit the fan (like when the police decides to raid a favela), you might still be caught in the crossfire. But at the same time, this might happen to you in Copacabana, too, as demonstrated by the shootout leaving a person dead and a few wounded in Balcony back in April. Be careful.

Conclusion: those who don't want any insight into Brazil beyond bundas, beaches, and the most common tourist sights, don’t bother. Those who wish to get a basic understanding of the complex realities and inequalities of life in Rio today, go ahead. You will love it.

Photo captions:

1: Rocinha.
2: Rocinha.
3: Rocinha.
4: Rocinha, on the Gavea side.
5: Vila Canoa, Sao Conrado.
6: Rocinha streets.
7: Rocinha streets.
8. Rocinha.
9: Zona Norte favela, as seen from Morro Dona Marta.
10: Dona Marta favela, as seen from Morro Dona Marta.

EA

El Austriaco
06-05-06, 02:24
Take a Trip to Centro

Why? Most tourists stay at Copacabana, Leme, Ipanema, and Leblon hotels and see preciously little reason to venture beyond those beach areas. Can you have a great trip without going to downtown Rio? Sure you can, both in terms of beaches and pussy, but what you would miss! Great architecture, open air markets, plus a taste of the life of middle-class Cariocas far away from the tourist segment. Visit the modern cathedral and other great churches, check out the Teatro Municipal, take the tram up to Santa Teresa, check out the Bohemian neighborhood of Lapa and the Arches, take in a show at the old-school samba halls (gafieiras), and so on and so forth. Centro will keep you busy for days... or weeks.

Facts: rather than provide a lengthy description of all the things to do and see, I rather suggest you get a good tour book on Rio for all the available options. I can recommend Lonely Planet Rio de Janeiro (http://shop.lonelyplanet.com/product_detail.cfm?productID=2581&affil=lpdp), which offers descriptions of all the sights, eateries, and recommended walking tours. And yes, for those that still aren't convinced, Centro has tons of great P4P options, too. Check the Bubba Guide.

Odd Facts/Tips: Many may be surprised to hear this, but although it is not commonly known as a colonial town, Rio has tons of stunning colonial architecture in the downtown and Lapa areas. The contrast with the modern highrises provides an eye-opening mixture of the modern and the traditional.

Although dress is pretty informal anywhere in Rio, most people in downtown Rio dress somewhat more formally. You won’t stick out if you wear something else than flip-flops, shorts, and soccer shirts. Semiformal shoes, slacks, and non-descript T-shirts and regular shirts will do just fine.

Centro is not touristy, so speaking at least some Portuguese is a definite asset there.

Centro seems very safe to me, safer than Copacabana, actually, simply because there are so many people, and nobody there is specifically targeting tourists for crime (perhaps except for the Santa Teresa tram station). Behave normally, and you should do just fine. Still, be careful.

How to get there: the Rio metro is easy to use: just one line to where you need to go, R$ 2.25 per ride, max. 15-20 minutes travel time from the Siqueira Campos metro station in Copacabana. For the Teatro Municipal, get off at Cinelândia station. For the Santa Teresa tram, your station would be Carioca. To visit the downtown open air market (SAARA), get off at the next station, Uruguiana. Cab fare to these destinations should run R$ 15.00 to R$ 20.00 one way from Copacabana or Ipanema, roughly.

Best time to go: any time during the day and during the week. Avoid weekends, when these areas are deserted, or very late at night, unless you know what you are doing.

Conclusion: for those that are willing to explore and look beyond the touristy areas, Centro has lots to offer. You will discover a totally new facet of this town that you hardly ever see on postcards. Who knows, you might be spending a lot less time in the Copacabana tourist zoo afterwards... and get a truly Brazilian (rather than Brazil for tourists) experience in the process.

Photo captions:

1: Colonial architecture, downtown Rio.
2: Colonial and modern architecture, downtown Rio.
3: Petrobras headquarters, downtown Rio.
4: Stained glass windows, Cathedral of Rio de Janeiro.
5: Stained glass windows, Cathedral of Rio de Janeiro.
6: Stained glass windows, Cathedral of Rio de Janeiro.
7: Street scene, Lapa.

EA

Jim424
06-05-06, 02:45
Would anyone have any contact info for Ellen aka Ellen Mathues, Helen Matheus, Taina, Mirna or know something about her? She is from Rio and has been in some films.

Bubba Boy
06-05-06, 03:00
Yet again excellent stuff EA.

Dbros9
06-05-06, 04:31
Is there any safe bar / club to go to in RIO that the locals hang out that might have some good action. I know all the places in front of HELP - just looking for something different.

Jim424
06-05-06, 12:06
Would anyone have any cotact info or know anything about Ellen Matheus from Rio. aka Helen Matheus,Taina.She made a few films.

Dollars
06-05-06, 12:47
IBZ,

There were two amazing sand sculptures direclty across from Meiea Pataca on Atlantic Ave as of last week. One was of six garotas on their stomachs with finely sculptured bundas sticking high in the air. The other sculpture was of of ten emaculate Thai-like temples.

Can you advise if these wonderful sculptures survived the tide? A hell of a lot of work went into these pieces d'art and what a shame if they were destroyed by the high tide.

PW

It was there as of Sunday. The high tide was doing damage to the kiosk right across from MP and Little Havana. On Saturday, it got so bad that we all made a mad dash for road when the water knocked down the chairs and tents by the beachside. I have never seen it this bad in Copa beach for a long time.

Wild Cherokee
06-05-06, 14:02
Just a few notes and observations from my first visit to Rio. Needless to say, I was quite impressed! I will be returning the 1st week of September for two weeks. I’ve already booked my trip!

Exchange Rates: Per USD, GIG airport cambio/exchange gave 2.19, Help gave 2.20 at the door, exchange in Impanema 2.25, HSBC and Citibank 2.25, and on Friday (5/26) 2.35 at Ely’s Tour located at Av. N. S. de Copacabana, 259 (around the corner from the Copacabana Palace). Later in the day they lowered it to 2.19, go figure. I think they did so to keep the rate lower over the weekend. A carioca advised me that all exchanges lower their rates after 3p or so. I learned my lesson on exchange rates. It is best to shop around! Especially when exchanging large amounts. Those fractions add up!

Best Cheap Buffet: Churrascaria de Kilo, Av. N. S. de Copacabana - 15 Reais for ALL you can eat. This place was always packed as the food was excellent and the selection good. First time I've ever seen chicken hearts, let alone on a skewer!

Best Cheap & Quicky: Small private place in an office building at Av. N. S. de Copacabana, 583 sala 204 - The door was reminiscent of a safe house in some drug dealing movie, but what opened the door immediately alerted my friends and I of the secret treasure that we had stumbled upon. 8 sex crazed GDP's of various sizes, shapes and complexions. One definite 10.0, one definite 9.0 and the rest were between 7 and 8 depending upon your taste. I immediately grabbed the 10... a 5'10 Brazilian goddess with a somewhat Asian face but a bunda and breasts that defy traditional Asian stock. I winked at my friends as one grabbed the 9 and the other chose a duplo with two 7/8's. There was no entrance fee. Pricing was as follows (hand written on small sheet of paper):

20 min R60
30 min R80
40 min R100

My buddy’s 30 min duplo was R100. I believe this was a special tailored for us due to the fact that we were the only guys in the place. They needed to keep the girls busy.

The rooms were small and did not look very clean but a passionate stand up followed by porn style doggie was still possible. This also included BBBJ. I'd stay away from the bar though as the drinks were quite expensive (R20 for Red Bull, R10 for Smirnoff Ice).

Buying in Brazil: My carioca friend advised me that in Brazil it is standard to ALWAYS refuse the first price given to you by a vendor, GDP, taxi flat rate, etc. I followed her advice during one day of shopping in Impanema and Copa. I saved LOADS. Furthermore, she stated that it is best if you have a Brazilian wrapped around your arm. It keeps everyone more honest with you.

Alfa Romeo
06-05-06, 14:13
Rio Day 1

Up to now I only participated in this forum by reading. As I have taken a lot of valuable information up to now, I thought it might be fair to share the experience of my last trip to Brazil (Rio and Recife) with the audience. You will maybe notice, that English is not my first language, so please be patient with my writing style.

Arrived at the international airport on a Saturday in May at 6 o'clock in the morning after an endless flight. Following the advices found in the forum I had made a reservation in the Rio Roiss / Copacabana asking for early check-in, which was promised without cost. As the possibility to save a few reals was not so important at this time of the day, I took a pre-booked taxi from one of the counters to the hotel. The drive to the hotel was nice, I normally sleep at this time of the day and crossing Rio in the early morning light is an exceptional experience for me.

After check-in I took a shower and a nap. Went out at 11 and walked around, sat down in one of the beach view open air restaurants to start the culinary aspect of the trip with a feijoada before going to the beach. In comparison to my previous visits to Rio it was very quiet, not much to see, not much to do. At this time of the year the sun disappears at 4 o'clock, so I went back to the hotel shortly after that.

I never had been at a terma as I do not consider this to be an appropriate place for me. However the many enthusiastic reports I read here convinced me to give it a try, at least for scientific purposes. The decision fell for L'Uomo. The instructions found at this form made it easy to locate it. I was greeted by the staff very friendly and given a short introduction to the facilities and services provided. I have to admit that I felt more than funny after having changed to the robe and slippers, and I felt even more funny after entering the boite in this outfit. Even at 5 pm app. 10 guys were hanging around all in the same fancy outfit. App 15 garotas in bikinis were present some of them already engaged with one of the guys, the majority in waiting position on the tiny dancing floor(?). Two of them approached me but they were not to my taste. I then approached two other garotas dancing closed to each other. Both were very slim, exactly what I like. They were very nice and tried to convince me to take both of them for a double. I told them that I have only one pico and was told that I had also a boca. However I was in the mood for only one. The blood pressure of my lower regions started to rise and I had to sit down followed by both garotas. Once in a more comfortable position, I concentrated on the NURSE and the other garota disappeared shortly after. The NURSE was an original carioca, 22, white, very slim, very nice body, dark hair. She spoke a very well pronounced Portuguese and understood my low-level portugnol. After some fondling around, I was ready to go to the cabina. The cabina was small but clean and the NURSE turned out to be god choice, she really knew how to please me. Her body also was no disappointment, small but firm breasts, shaved pussy. Had a lot of fun with her changing positions various times. If her orgasm was not real, it was at least well done. When the phone rang, it was the right time to go. As I did not want to hang around longer, I went back to the locker room and changed to street clothes. Damage was as expected (some 250 R$). My conclusion of a terma: it can be a lot of fun, for sure, but it is still not my favorite hunting ground.

On the way back to the Avenida Atlantica, I stopped at a juice shop then walked on and sat down at one of the beach front open air eateries for a real drink. For dinner my decision fell to the Teraça Atlantica in front of Help as I wanted to get a glimpse on the action at the same time.

At this time of the year there are definitely more garotas than mongers. Some of them approached me, none of my taste. I realized that, as I have had already sex earlier today, I felt very relaxed and did not feel the need to take somebody home under all circumstances. Instead I waited for the things to happen. I first saw MISS COOL, when she passed my table crossing the terrace to greet a friend. She was young, very slim, however blonde, which is not my favorite hair color. She then sat down on table just opposite to mine together with another blonde garota. The other blonde came to my table and asked if I want to come with her which I declined. MISS COOL on the other hand stayed cool, looking into my direction. I started to flirt with her and her coolness dropped. When I invited her over to my table, she jumped up. She was a student from Sao Paolo, 19, very quiet person. She had some iron in the mouth which made her appear even younger. When I asked her what she wanted to drink, she wanted only a water. Asked, how much she wanted, she quoted 200R$ for one hour, I told her that I wold not pay more than 100, she asked for 150, I repeated not being ready to pay more than 100 and asked for the bill. Before the bill came, she accepted the 100R$. MISS COOL seemed to be in a hurry as she walked much faster than any other girl I have been walking with so far. At the hotel reception she had to register, no further problems. I noticed, that the receptionist started to punch in some numbers into his pocket calculator, he needed it to verify the legal age of the garota. Upon taking off her top I realized a nice tatoo on her breasts, a spider net with the nipples as center and a spider attacking the center. In bed she performed well and left after more than on hour and a lot of fun. Well worth the damage.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.

Alfa Romeo
06-05-06, 14:14
Rio Day 2

Next day I visited in the morning the botanical garden and went to the beach in the afternoon. After sunset i walked over to Meia Pataca for a drink and a snack. Spotted two morenas that were to my taste, one of them was taken out by a competitor, so MISS FUNNY remained for me. Invited to my table, she wanted beer, which was granted. She was from Rio, 22 years old, a morena clara. I told her that I wanted to take a shower and asked if she wanted to join me, which she agreed. Had some troubles to understand her Portuguese but who cares, I did not have the intention to start philosophical discussions. In the room we first took a shower together than started action in bed. Only now I realized, that she also had iron reinforced teeth, seemed already to be used to it from last night. She had a nice body, small soft tits, slim. In bed i had the impression that her hair has changed, which I did only understand later when I saw her part of artificial hair in the bathroom. The rest of the body seemed to be original. When I wanted to pay her I realized that we had not yet touched this matter, so I gave her 100R$, at first she asked for more but finally accepted. Price-performance ratio was ok.

At night I went for dinner to a breakfront restaurant, ate an excellent fish. After that I sat down another time at the Terraça Atlantica for a drink. Spoke with two nice elderly ladies who warned me about the the various dangers in Copacabana between murders and garotas. She wanted me to join them on their table, but I preferred to stay on my own. The situation was the same as the day before, lots of garotas. Was approached by some of them, rejected all. Finally MISS COOL appeared again, greeted me nice. She was very nervous, I suspected her to be under the influence of drugs, but she denied. Decided to take her again as there was no interesting alternative. So another 100R$ changed hands after a refreshing hour of sex.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.

Ibiza007
06-05-06, 16:40
I went by this morning and it did get some damage, it was mostly there, butt the legs of some of the girls were being rebuilt, only the low part was damaged. It will survive.

The beach in front of Othon is now about 20 meters deep from Ave Atlantica to the hide tide, no place to sit anymore. Luis said the city will fix it when the sea changes and calms down. he said this is an annual thing and happens every year.

IBZ




It was there as of Sunday. The high tide was doing damage to the kiosk right across from MP and Little Havana. On Saturday, it got so bad that we all made a mad dash for road when the water knocked down the chairs and tents by the beachside. I have never seen it this bad in Copa beach for a long time.

Papa Wahala
06-05-06, 22:13
Appreciate you taking the time to check on the sculpture. Sounds like mother nature is little riled up down there.

Cheers PW -

Papa Wahala
06-05-06, 22:42
Walked into Help for the first time on the evening of my arrival and was instantly hit on by a series of ladies from the door to the bar. This one in particular caught my fancy but I decided to play hard to get at first.

Realizing my folly, I made the rounds of the disco and ventured back towards the door where I found "Anjeliqua" (spelling?) waiting for me.

Feeling pretty randy after an eight hour your flight, I was keen to get my first tast of a carioca garota and invited her back to the apt which was less than a block away.

She was very vocal in the bed and constantly called "paie" during the sessions. Having anticipated this trip for some time, I was pretty motivated that night and engaged in a number of positions, "tudos" included.

Needless to say, I was very happy with the way my first night in Rio started.

PW

One Eyed Man
06-06-06, 04:25
when i was in rio in january, i went to hooker beach on 2-3 occasions. there was a black guy named luis (with a speedo that was a bit too small in the rear) that worked in one of the tents that organized chairs, umbrellas, beer, sandwiches (and girls) for me. i'm sure i paid the stupid gringo price for everything, but the guy busted his not-completely-covered behind to keep me happy. i hope to see him next time in rio (and i'm sure he'll still be there). he seemed to have radar that told him when i walked on his section of the beach, or his colleagues remembered me and tipped him off.


the beach in front of othon is now about 20 meters deep from ave atlantica to the hide tide, no place to sit anymore. luis said the city will fix it when the sea changes and calms down. he said this is an annual thing and happens every year.

ibz

Wild Cherokee
06-06-06, 05:56
NS Copa Cabana 583, room 206.

There is a small reception foyer, then a one-room terma with a TV bolted to the wall. A little corner alcove has been turned into a beer dispensary. One bench along a wall, 5-6 small tables with stool-seats. Open 6 days.

There was one astonishingly pretty girl. An absolute beauty. 5’8”, blond hair, perfectly-shaped Brazilian butt, B/C cups, perfect teeth and lips that may or may not have been altered, but were alluring.Full Throttle, I was at this place. Did you try any of the girls? I believe the garota you described here is the one that I took. She had heels on though so I guessed her to be 5'10" with them. I would assume that my buddies and I lucked out though because the other girls (subjectively) were quite fine. This little gem kept us busy for several hours. Between the three of us we went through 5 of the 8 girls working that night.

WC

Your description of the facilities and the

Ibiza007
06-06-06, 15:30
This morning a bulldozer was working on the beach in front of the Othon, it will be fixed for sure, the sea is still rough, but lower.

IBZ

Full Throttle
06-06-06, 16:00
Full Throttle, I was at this place. Did you try any of the girls? I believe the garota you described here is the one that I took. She had heels on though so I guessed her to be 5'10" with them. I would assume that my buddies and I lucked out though because the other girls (subjectively) were quite fine. This little gem kept us busy for several hours. Between the three of us we went through 5 of the 8 girls working that night.

WC

Good job WC. Any details on the service? Any upselling? BBBJ the default? Side B?

I was only there for a few minutes and didn't take any girls. Upon your recommendation, I will, though!

FT

Papa Wahala
06-06-06, 23:28
Met this beauty hanging out at Meia Pataca. She came with a friend that I enjoyed at a later time but forgot to take a picture of for my mongering scrap book.

While chatting up her friend, my new friend in the attached photo gave me the impression that she was game for some fun but I was due to depart for Salvador the next day and did not feel at my best to take either one or engage in a dupla.

Mentioning that she lived far away from Copa and would have to leave early to get home, I offered her my apt (nao sexo) once she was done with her "networking." She accepted and said that she would come around 4:00 am.

I of course thought that she was giving me a polite brush off and headed off to get some rest. Imagine my surprise when I was awakened by the banging on my door around 4:00 am.

There she was with a big smile and full of energy. Letting her in, I showed her the kitchen and bathroom and jumped back in bed to go back to sleep.
Joining me, she began to explore my lower half in anticipation of an early morning session.

Imagine her surprise when I reminded her in broken portugese that "meu promesse nao sexo." No strings attached for her coming over. Well gents, that scored big "cool points" with her and we called it a night. I figured that I would have a 50-50 chance of running into her again and enjoyed having a fine naked garota laying next to me. Needless to say that only half of me got some sleep that night.

Returning from Salvador-Bahia six days later, I stopped by Meia Petaca for my regular two shots of caipirinha and who comes up behind me with a kiss on the cheek. You guessed it! My little sleeping companion.

Well this time I was ready for a taste and off we went to the room. I was quite surprised that she was into doing all positions and once again I struck gold with a garota who enjoyed "tudos."

I can't say that she was a pro or just a non-pro looking for some extra reals. I did not see her after that at Meia Pataca nor around the Copa area but did run into her friend who made the intial introductions and and invited her back to the nest.

According to this garota (forgot her name), she swore up and down that I was on Viaraga and claims that we were at it for three hours. I honestly don't recall how long we were going at it but will admit that I was a porn star that night.

I ran into her the next day at MP and got a big laugh when she showed me that she was carrying lubricant in her purse. Kissing me on cheek, she said that I was the cause of her carrying lubrication and that our little marathon session had worn that p**sy out.

Needless to say, I could not convince her to come back for round II but we had a good laugh and shared a couple of caipirinhas.

Caramba! The sweet memories of Rio.

PW

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.

Full Throttle
06-07-06, 15:45
Nice report. She came into MP the afternoon I was there. She and her friend were the best looking girls there. In fact, one could argue the ONLY good looking girls there, but that is a subjective opinion. I'm glad to hear she's sweet. How much did you give her for the "real" session?

FT

Papa Wahala
06-07-06, 23:47
back again gents.

met camila on my third night in rio. i decided to hang out at the atlantica restaurant as help was opening so that i could get a feel for how the talent operates as they prepare to enter the club.

sipping my favorite drink (caipirinha, the nectar of the sex gods), i was approached by a garota whose best days had come and gone. what struck me about this particular garota was how she reminded me of a gypsy or roma i observed in germany. tall, slender with a long beak-like nose with flowing unkept black shoulder flowing hair; she invited herself to my table with the well rehearsed line, "i like black men."

taking a long sip from my drink, i began to think of an escape plan (like getting up and running away), until i noticed that my escapee from the gypsy farm had a companion, camila.

immediately i sensed a connection with camila and gave a silent prayer to the mongering gods for providing an alternative. while the "gypsy" kept talking about going back to my place for a dupla, i kept repeating as politely but firmly as possible, "nao obrigado."

camila's english is excellent and i guess by my body language, muttered curses under my breath and pained lexpression on my face, she sensed my growing discomfort with her friend. to help change the subject, camila started asking me a series of questions in english about my visit, and this momentary distraction allowed me to think of a game plan that would allow me to work on getting camila while getting rid of the "gypsy."

as i was developing my plan of action, the gypsy started talking about her personal life and mentioned that she was looking forward to spending mother's day with her children the next day. well gents, mom did not raise a fool and i immediately seized on that bit of information to tell her that i would feel quite guilty taking her back to my place when she should be at home with her kids celebrating her special day.

to my surprise and relief, she agreed with me and asked would i be willing to giver her 5 real for a taxi. i obliged her by giving her 10 real and off she went. i expect to be nominated for an academy award this year but am not sure if it will be in the drama or comedy category.

alone with camila, i invited her back to the nest and started off slowly by putting on an usher concert dvd. as it was late, i played it cool for about an hour and allowed her to get comfortable and enjoy the dvd.

once the show was over, i was ready to groove to a different beat and engaged in a vareity of positions based on my reading of the karma sutra. camila met me every step of the way and i loved it when she started giving me "instructions" in portuguese. getting a woman to drop her inhibitions and start calling out in a language foreign to me is like getting a shot of viagra and i treated camila like a starving brazilian who comes upon a free plate of feijoda.

camila has a body to die for. as you can see from the photo, she has large melon-like breasts which are real. shapely legs, flat stomach and well sculptured legs with a p***y that can samba. i made a mental note that she might be gfe material, but i will go into that in my next report.

i connected with camila again upon my return from salvador but took a different approach. as we all know, the garota network puts the cia to shame and camila shared our first seesion with the gypsy who saw me at mp and invited herself over with the exclamation, "you fuck my friend too much!"

i am not sure if this pronouncement gave me bonus points with the mp garotas who heard this free publicity or scared some away, but i definitely seem to get more looks and winks after that pronouncement each time i showed up at mp.

figuring the best way to shut up the gypsy was to put a drink in her hand, i invited her to join me and once again turned down her invitation to go to my room. having once and for all understood that we "would never happen," she began to tell me how she was upset with her american "boyfriend" (a one night stand) because she saw him with another woman coming out of help in the early morning. she then shared how she started a scene by yelling that "he know pay, he know fuck good" right in front of the help crowd.

she went on to share how the situation almost became physical as she tried to hit the "boyfriend" and his companion, but camila restrained her. around this time, camila shows up and i began to gently chastise her for sharing our evening interlude with the "gypsy" who i now call "o globo" because she likes to create drama and sticks her nose in everyone's business.

not wanting to get caught up in any drama or garota problems, i told the ladies that i had friends coming and moved to another section. it was a wise decision in my part because the american in question showed later in the evening and got another earful from the outraged gypsy.

as this drama unfolded, i met the sweet gal who accepted my invitation to come by my apartment at 4:00 am.

hooking up with this sweetie under camila's watchful eyes led to a new and quite interesting series of events that i will share in my next report.

pw

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread.

Doogie528
06-08-06, 17:55
I willbe in Rio next week. Has anyone tried Joana Mello on Hotside's website. What was she like. Spoke with her and her English is so-so. $400.00 R is a lot of money for two hours, is she worth it. Thanks for any advice in advance.

Bubba Boy
06-08-06, 18:31
I have not tried her but I am thinking you will be dissappointed at that price. Whenever I see the following words :-
ALTO NÍVEL (High Level)- SUPER DISCRETA (super discrete) - ATENDIMENTO VIP (For VIP's) I usually translate it as follows "aiming for the gringo market, service will generally be nothing special and you will pay gringo prices for because you do not know Rio"

For R400 you could get the hottest of the hottest girls at the best club, and you get to see before you try. Off a website there is a very good chance she is not nearly as hot in the flesh as in her photos.

Jasss
06-08-06, 19:37
i know this is the rio section but do any of you guys out there know any hotels in santos sao paulo, near the beach area?

Member #4156
06-08-06, 20:47
Hooking up with this sweetie under Camila's watchful eyes led to a new and quite interesting series of events that I will share in my next report.

PW


Good report Papa. I can only imagine what happened in the events that followed because I was in similar situations. Nice looking chick too. Looks familiar might I add. I'll be in Rio tomorrow morning. Can't wait.

El Austriaco
06-08-06, 21:19
Here's some updated pricing on (original) vitamins, available over the counter (and prescription-free) at any pharmacy in Rio. Prices are as of late April 2006.

Cialis 20 mg/2 pills: R$ 47.89
Levitra 10 mg/1 pill: R$ 23.69
Levitra 10 mg/2 pills: R$ 42.69
Viagra 50 mg/2 pills: R$ 40.69
Viagra 50 mg/4 pills: R$ 81.29

Prices as quoted by Drogaria Peixoto, Rua Figueiredo Magalhães, 615, Lojas B and C, and Rua Figueiredo Magalhães, 741, Loja M (both very close to L'Uomo). 24-hour home delivery. Prices are for cash payments.

Phone 3208-6006, 2256-1895, 24 hours 3816-6969.

Rio Bob
06-08-06, 21:25
I willbe in Rio next week. Has anyone tried Joana Mello on Hotside's website. What was she like. Spoke with her and her English is so-so. $400.00 R is a lot of money for two hours, is she worth it. Thanks for any advice in advance.

While everything Mr Bubba says is true and can happen, you can also take precautions.

I personally like to have an escort come over on rainy days in Rio and with these independents you can negotiate, ask if she'll take 200 or 300 instead of 400, 300 is better than nothing much better.

Usually what I do is when I call an escort is go downstairs in front of my building and wait for them, when she comes to my door and rings my bell I approach her and tell her who I am, there is a cafe next to my apartment building so sometimes if they are borderline I say lets have a quick drink first and I decide if it is a go or not, I have told some that it was a no go and gave them a token for the taxi and time. If they are really hot we go straight up to the apartment no problem and if they are down right Fugly then I tell them from the get go that they are not my type sorry, give token and go. This I find better as I dont have to throw them out of my apartment, I can just walk away and they have to too.

I have come across some real sweet escorts and they wern't cheap but were a higher level than lets say some Help or termas girls, these girls were more semi pro type, some held other legit type of jobs, had real boy friends and normal friends but did this for some extra cash as the brasilian wage don't really cut it and some were real students, last one I had was a medical student, maybe someday she will be my Doctor in Rio, hope so.

Gladiator
06-08-06, 23:41
I’ve never used any escort service in Rio, I like the thrill of the hunting experience and, on the other hand, I’m quite picky and like to check out my preys thoroughly, both in looks and attitude, before recruiting them, so I’ve always thought that calling an escort would be a high risk experience as I’m sure that more often than not I’d be disappointed and would have to send her back.

Rio Bob, how much would you say that token should be when you send back the girl straightaway?

I might give it a go one day.

Lonzof
06-09-06, 03:08
Good report Papa. I can only imagine what happened in the events that followed because I was in similar situations. Nice looking chick too. Looks familiar might I add. I'll be in Rio tomorrow morning. Can't wait.

Have fun Keldeson. Hit a few hotties for me. Be safe!!!

BootyTapper
06-09-06, 22:00
Good report Papa. I can only imagine what happened in the events that followed because I was in similar situations. Nice looking chick too. Looks familiar might I add. I'll be in Rio tomorrow morning. Can't wait.

Have a ball Keldeson! Let me know if India is still around! I am trying to make it down for world cup finals. Tap all dat ass until we make it down!

RonnyRon
06-10-06, 00:03
Have a great time.

RR

Helpmann
06-10-06, 17:22
Helpmann's Itinerary
The following is an update of the original itinerary I had before leaving on vacation. There will most likely be more posts going into more detail.

-Helpmann :)


Friday – Bogotá, Colombia

07:30am Arrive at Airport

09:30am Flight (Avianca #21) leaves for Bogota

02:10pm Arrive in Bogota (exchange cash at the airport)

03:00pm Yellow cab, Take Calle 26 (El Dorado)

03:30pm Sight-see
1. Go to Plaza Bolivar (“La Candelaria” neighborhood)
2. Take Photos of Capitolio Nacional and Palacio de Justicia

04:00pm Leave Plaza Bolivar for Santa Fe (red-light district)

04:30pm Santa Fe (red-light district)
1. La Piscina de Dia, Cr. 15. [Approx. 60,000 (US$25) per girl]
2. Fucked: Tatiana and Andrea (pictured below)

06:00pm Leave Santa Fe for Parque 93

06:30pm Dinner: “Waffles and Crepes”
1. Banana Split (yummy!!)

07:15pm Leave Parque 93 for Airport (BOG)

08:00pm Arrive at Airport (BOG)

09:40pm Flight (Avianca #85) leaves for Rio de Janerio, Brazil


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Saturday – Rio de Janeiro

06:00am Arrive in Rio (GIG)
1. Flight was an hour early, Sao Paulo was skipped due to weather

07:10am Meet driver (cost: R$100 for Roundtrip Service)

07:40am Arrive at apartment
1. Unpack
2. Change and shower

10:00am Breakfast: Cafeina (NS de Copacabana & R. Constante Ramos, Copa)
1. Had the Ham and Cheese Croissant sandwich and a Crème Milkshake

12:00pm Escort: Layla - (021) 9807-4917 (cost: R$150/hr.)
1. Session was scheduled from the US 2 days before arrival (she speaks English.)
2. She’s approx. 36yr. but very kinky. She stuffed Ben-Wah balls in her pussy while I rode her ass for a half hour. She later sucked the cum out my cock like a Hoover vacuum.
3. www.riosexsite.net

01:30pm Walked Copacabana Beach (along Atlantica)

02:30pm Lunch: Meia Pataca (3312 Ave. Atlantica & Rua Miguel Lemos)
1. Had a Steak and Fries and a couple of Caipirinhas (national drink)

04:00pm Walked Copacabana Beach (along Atlantica)

05:00pm Slept (completely exhausted from the flight)

10:00pm Dinner: Don Camillo (Av. Atlântica, 3056, & Rua Bolivar, Copa)
1. Had a Steak and Fries and a couple of Skols (Brazilian Beer)
2. Good dinner, recommended.

11:00pm Drinks outside of Help Disco
1. Caipirinhas (again)

12:00am Help Disco (3432 Ave. Atlantica & Rua Miguel Lemos www.discoteca-help.com)
1. Danced my ass off with a crazy shorty named Tatiana (I love this “favela” music called “Funky.”)

03:30am Slept


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Sunday– Rio de Janeiro

10:00am Breakfast: Cafeina (NS de Copacabana & R. Constante Ramos, Copa)
1. Had the Ham and Cheese Croissant sandwich and a Crème Milkshake

12:00pm Ipanema Beach:
1. Sight-seeing and walking down Avenida Vieira Souto
2. Hippie Fair (Open: 9-5pm Praça General Osorio, R. Prudente de Morais & R. Teixeira)

06:00pm Slept

08:00pm Dinner: Amir Restaurant (R. Ronald de Carvalho, 55C, Copa, 2275-5596)
1. Had the Lebanese Sausage, and a strawberry yogurt
2. Good Dinner

11:00pm Slept (Trust me…. I’m saving my energy)


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Monday – Rio de Janeiro

06:30am Walked along the coast of Copacabana (not recommended see Sunday)

10:00am Breakfast: Cafeina (NS de Copacabana & R. Constante Ramos, Copa)
1. Had the Breakfast for 2 (Bread, Granola, Yogurt, Ham, Turkey, Cheese, Orange Juice, Coffee)

11:30am Escort Service: ScortShow (based in Flamengo, sister company of Karlamodels)
1. Raquel (21yrs): 2 hours (R$100 + R$30 for cab = R$130)
2. Came 2x with her. Banged her in the ass the 2nd time for a good 20-30 minutes. A lot of sweat, but no tears. Recommended.
3. Photos and video
4. www.scortshow.net (021) 2553-6115

02:00pm Sight-See: Sugar Loaf (Pao Acucar)
1. Was closed for maintenance until Saturday

02:30pm Shopping: Rio Sul Shopping Mall (www.riosul.com.br)
1. Finally Rio (Brazil) lives up to its reputation. A bounty of beautiful women in the mall. Hell, even the janitor is hot!!
2. Prices for many items are higher than what you would find in New York City. Yikes!!

08:00pm Dinner: Capricciosa (R. Domingos Ferreira, 221 & Rua Bolivar, Copa)
1. Had the Capricciosa pizza (different, but good)
2. Good dinner, recommended!

11:00pm Escort Service: ScortShow (based in Flamengo, sister company of Karlamodels)
1. Raquel (21 yrs): 2 hours (R$100 + R$30 for cab = R$130)
2. Came 2x with her. Recommended.
3. www.scortshow.net (021) 2553-6115

02:00am Slept


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Tuesday– Rio de Janeiro

07:00am Walked along the coast of Copacabana (not recommended see Sunday)

10:00am Breakfast: Cafeina (NS de Copacabana & R. Constante Ramos, Copa)
1. Had the Ham and Cheese Croissant sandwich and a Crème Milkshake

11:30am Escort Service: ScortShow (based in Flamengo, sister company of Karlamodels)
1. Raquel and Taciane: 2 hours (R$200 + R$30 for cab = R$230)
2. Came 1x. Alternated between the two.
3. Wanted a 2x, but both seemed reluctant and lazy
4. Taciane is 18, very cute, and has been with the service a month. NOT recommended (she corrupted “my girl” Raquel.)
5. Photos and video
6. www.scortshow.net (021) 2553-6115

02:00pm Sight-see: Corvocado (Christ Statue)

05:00pm Lunch: Meia Pataca (3312 Ave. Atlantica & Rua Miguel Lemos)
1. Had a Steak and Fries and a couple of Caipirinhas (national drink)

10:00pm Dinner: Don Camillo (Av. Atlântica, 3056, & Rua Bolivar, Copa)
1. Had a Steak and Fries and a couple of Skols (Brazilian Beer)
2. Good dinner, recommended.

12:00am Help Disco (3432 Ave. Atlantica & Rua Miguel Lemos www.discoteca-help.com)
1. Arrived w/ Daniella (Meia Pataca Girl)
2. Not much dancing (too much techno)

03:00am Fucked Daniella
1. From Cowgirl -> Missionary -> Spoon -> Doggie I never had to pull out to adjust. She was a great fuck!!
2. (021) 9669-8131

05:00am Slept


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Wednesday – Rio de Janeiro

10:00am Breakfast: Cafeina (NS de Copacabana & R. Constante Ramos, Copa)
1. Had the Ham and Cheese Croissant sandwich and a Crème Milkshake

11:30am Escort Service: ScortShow (based in Flamengo, sister company of Karlamodels)
1. Samara: 2 hours (R$100 + R$30 for cab = R$130)
2. Came 2x with her. Tried to bang her in the ass the 2nd time, but she was too tight. I stopped after I saw blood. She’s a trooper and never complained.
3. Photos and video
4. www.scortshow.net (021) 2553-6115

02:30pm Maracana Football (Soccer) Stadium
1. Took Metro from Siguiera Campos (Copa) to Estacio (Downtown.) Transferred to the 2-Blue Line at Estacio and got off at Maracana
2. Bought tickets for Thursday night’s game “Botofango vs. Fluminese”

04:00pm Terma 4 x 4 (Rua Buenos Aires 44, Centro, Tel. 2283-1009)
1. Took Metro back from Maracana to Estacio then to Uraguania station.
2. Took Cristian (model-type, black, tall, and awful in bed.) This girl talked too much and demanded that everything be on her terms, from the lights (being off) to sexual position. Worst fuck in Rio. NOT recommended.

9:30pm Dinner: La Faison (Av. Atlântica, Copa)
1. Had a Steak and Fries and a couple of Skols (Brazilian Beer)

11:00pm Drinks w/ “Taiwan Laowai” (from Int. Sex Guide) outside of Help Disco

12:00am Help Disco (3432 Ave. Atlantica & Rua Miguel Lemos www.discoteca-help.com)
1. Found a “freak of nature” (Fernanda) shaking her ass off on the dance floor and hooked up.
2. Danced my ass off her with until 4:00am. She was completely wasted on vodka and soda.

04:00am Banged the fuck out of her!!

05:00am Slept


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Thursday – Rio de Janeiro

10:00am Banged the fuck out of her again!!

11:00am Slept

02:00pm Kicked her out, but made plans to see her again that evening.

02:30pm Lunch: Meia Pataca (3312 Ave. Atlantica & Rua Miguel Lemos)
1. Had a Steak and Fries and a couple of Caipirinhas (national drink)

06:30pm Dinner: “ “ Satisfaco (off of Bolivar and Atlantic – I think??)
1. Had the Fucilli pasta w/ pesto and chicken shavings
2. Good dinner

08:30pm Soccer Game: Maracana Stadium (Left Copa at 7:30pm) www.cbfnews.uol.com.br
Take Metro to Maracana Station (Transfer to 2-Blue Line at Estacio)
Great game: Fluminese beat Botafogo, 3-2 (I believe tickets in the “special”section cost R$60 a ticket)

12:00am Help Disco (3432 Ave. Atlantica & Rua Miguel Lemos www.discoteca-help.com)
1. Met-up w/ Fernanda (fantastic dancer, white girl, small waist, speaks English, has extensions made of natural hair.)

02:00am Slept


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Friday – Rio de Janeiro

07:00am Walked along the coast of Copacabana (not recommended see Sunday)

10:00am Breakfast: Cafeina (NS de Copacabana & R. Constante Ramos, Copa)
1. Had the Ham and Cheese Croissant sandwich and a Crème Milkshake

11:30am Escort Service: KarlaModels (based in Barra De Tijuca)
1. Suelle Miller: 2 hours (RD$100 + RD$50 for cab = RD$150)
2. Came 2x with her.
3. Photos and video
4. www.karlamodels.net (021) 2502-4290

04:00pm Villa Mimosa
1. Take 1-Red Line to Urugaiana Station then took a cab to Villa Mimosa
2. Banged Tatiana (wiggled too much) and Carol (good, but I was tired and couldn’t cum)
3. Villa Mimosa makes Sante Fe (Bogota) look like Disney World. The first thing that popped in my mind was “Venusville” from the movie "Total Recall.”

06:00pm Urugaiana Station
1. Shopping in the markets

08:00pm Dinner: Capricciosa (R. Domingos Ferreira, 221 & Rua Bolivar, Copa)
1. Had the pizza w/ wild mushrooms
2. Good dinner, recommended!

11:00pm 2a2 Swing Club (F. Magalhães, 885/F - Tel: 2235-4821, next to the Copa d' Or Hospital www.2a2.com.br)
1. I took my “favorite” girl and banged her in a mirrored room upstairs
2. Highly recommended! Nothing but fucking, sucking, groping, grabbing, ogling, and dancing going on here.

02:00am Apartment
1. Fucked my favorite girl one more time; right-up the ass!!

03:00am Slept (yep, that was 4 girls and 5 “leches” for the day)


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Saturday – Rio de Janeiro

10:00am Breakfast: Cafeina (NS de Copacabana & R. Constante Ramos, Copa)
1. Had the Ham and Cheese Croissant sandwich and a Crème Milkshake

12:00pm Copa Beach:
1. Rent chairs and relax listening to Bachata

04:00pm Sight-See: Sugar Loaf (Pao Acucar www.bondinho.com.br)
1. Reopened that day
2. The experience was even more beautiful than Corvocado

09:00pm Dinner: Marius Restaurant (Av. Atlântica, 290A, 2542-2393, Leme)
1. All you can eat (seafood, filet mignon…) for approx. US$50.00
2. Very touristy, but highly recommended!!

11:00pm Slept (too much food and too much sex)


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Sunday – Rio de Janeiro

06:30am Walked along the coast of Copacabana (not recommended see below)
1. Robbed at knife point at 7:30am.

11:00am Breakfast: Cafeina (NS de Copacabana & R. Constante Ramos, Copa)
1. Had the Breakfast for 2 (Bread, Granola, Yogurt, Ham, Turkey, Cheese, Orange Juice, Coffee)

12:00pm Ipanema Beach:
1. Hippie Fair (9-5pm Praça General Osorio, R. Prudente de Morais & R. Teixeira)

03:00pm Copa Beach (near “Hooker Beach”)
1. Drinking Caipirinhas!!

05:00pm Meia Pataca (3312 Ave. Atlantica & Rua Miguel Lemos)
1. Pasta and Shrimp

06:00pm Banged this chica from the Amazon

11:00pm Banged this chica from the Amazon

01:00am Banged this chica from the Amazon

02:00am Slept


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Monday – Bogotá, Colombia

04:00am Wake-up, Shower, Eat

05:00am Leave for Airport (GIG)

06:00am Arrive at Airport

08:10am Flight (Avianca #86) leaves for Bogota

02:15pm Arrive in Bogota (exchange cash at the airport)

03:00pm Yellow Cab, Take Calle 26 (El Dorado)

3:30pm Cigar Shopping: La Cava Del Puro (Ave. 82 #12-41 and Cr. 12)
1. A box of Romeo and Julieta’s (Cuban)
2. 4 boxes of Cava Del Puros (Corona Largas No. 1)

04:00pm Supermarket:
1. 5 bottles of wine
2. Some sugary snacks

05:00pm Santa Fe (red-light district)
1. La Piscina de Dia: Cr. 15
2. La Piscina: Cr. 15 23-64 (Banged Sara: insisted on 2 condoms, NOT recommended)
3. El Castillo (one block up and a left from La Piscina) www.elcastilloclub.com
4. La Piscina de Dia (returned): Cr. 15
5. La Piscina (returned): Cr. 15 23-64 Banged Daniella (not recommended) and Gina (recommended)

10:15pm Leave for Airport (BOG)

10:35pm Arrive at Airport (BOG)

11:55pm Flight (Avianca #20) leaves for New York


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THE END


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NOTE: "The Bakers" is actually one block north of NS Copacabana (NOT one block South) and I believe that Capricciossa was off of Ramos instead of Bolivar (regardless the address, R. Domingos Ferreira, 221, is correct.)

Trelele
06-10-06, 19:52
Hi Helpmann!

Congratulations!

Hey fellow let me know some details.

First of all:

Who is the girl on your Friday's pic?

Who was your 'favorite' girl when you went to 2a2?

Now tell me. For an good ass fuck.Among the brazilian girls. Who's the best choice? Layla? Samara? Raquel?

Thank in advance

Trelele

Rio Bob
06-10-06, 20:50
Helpmann's Itinerary
The following is an update of the original itinerary I had before leaving on vacation. There will most likely be more posts going into more detail.

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06:30am Walked along the coast of Copacabana (not recommended see below)
1. Robbed at knife point at 7:30am.



Helpmann, really great report and nice format, I really enjoyed it.

Can you tell us a little bit more about your unfortunate incident on the beach at 6:30 AM, obviously you didn't have much with you.

Helpmann
06-10-06, 22:24
Helpmann, really great report and nice format, I really enjoyed it.

Can you tell us a little bit more about your unfortunate incident on the beach at 6:30 AM, obviously you didn't have much with you.
I wrote about it in the "Crime and Safety" section.

-Helpmann :)



I had a great time in Rio, but Jesus I'll never do that again. That is, walk Copacabana beach (or any 3rd world beach) in the mornings.

7:30am, Sunday morning I was robbed by three thugs with knives. They rushed me from the side, rear, and front. They demanded money and my phone. I wasn't carrying any money, but they took my cellphone (old rented Motorola Startak), my keys (apartment and suitcase), and my watch ($15 Timex.)

I had been walking Copacabana beach in the morning several times, before the robbery; however, on this day, there were few to none people in the vicinity walking or jogging along the coast.

Beware: It doesn't matter where you are or what time of day it is. If you look around and you don't see people, you're setting yourself up to be a victim of a crime.

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Rio Bob
06-10-06, 23:55
I wrote about it in the "Crime and Safety" section.

-Helpmann :)
[7:30am, Sunday morning I was robbed by three thugs with knives. They rushed me from the side, rear, and front. They demanded money and my phone. I wasn't carrying any money, but they took my cellphone (old rented Motorola Startak), my keys (apartment and suitcase), and my watch ($15 Timex.)



I don't understand what they would want with your keys, just a major inconvience to you to get back into your apartment. I now carry 2 sets of keys on me for this reason, one set in my pocket and one set with extra hidden money in another hidden place, its no guarantee but if they get 1 set I could always get back into my apartment at 4 am returning from Help.

I recently had too much too drink one night returning from Help at 3 am, I was hungry so I let the girl into my apartment and told her to wait, locking her in to the apartment. I went around the corner to Mcdonalds, so drunk I left my keys there but didn't know it or remember. I let myself into my apartment using the spare set, it came in handy, next day I realized I didn't have the original set, didn't know where they were so had extra keys made, I finally went to Mcdonalds 2 days later and in the lost and found was my keys. Too much Red Bull and Whiskey.

Helpmann
06-11-06, 01:02
I don't understand what they would want with your keys, just a major inconvience to you to get back into your apartment. I now carry 2 sets of keys on me for this reason, one set in my pocket and one set with extra hidden money in another hidden place, its no guarantee but if they get 1 set I could always get back into my apartment at 4 am returning from Help.

I recently had too much too drink one night returning from Help at 3 am, I was hungry so I let the girl into my apartment and told her to wait, locking her in to the apartment. I went around the corner to Mcdonalds, so drunk I left my keys there but didn't know it or remember. I let myself into my apartment using the spare set, it came in handy, next day I realized I didn't have the original set, didn't know where they were so had extra keys made, I finally went to Mcdonalds 2 days later and in the lost and found was my keys. Too much Red Bull and Whiskey.
The thieves didn't believe that I didn't have any cash on me, so they searched my pockets. It's possible that the keys just got lost in the surf after their search.

-Helpmann

Ibiza007
06-11-06, 15:25
This is a regular club in Lapa. It is a huge place, 3 floors and can easily hold 1000 people. Very casual. Live music on the ground floor, Brazilian music, everyone sings, part of the second story is a disco, full of girls, and most of these girls are 25-40, not 21 like most discos in Rio.

This is a cool place and you should definitely go, closes at 3:30 am.

Taxi from Copa 20 - 22$r.

Entrada R$20.00 , beer R$4-5

There were easily 400 girls there Saturday night, and I think Saturday is much slower than Friday night, at least for Lapa in general.

Go, you will meet regular Carioca girls that want to have fun , drink, dance and sing.

IBZ

Helpmann
06-11-06, 16:59
I don't understand this. Why do you guys keep getting robbed in Rio? I have been going to Rio for over 5 years and nothing has ever happened to me nor any of my friends. Now given, you will never see me walking on the beach at 4am in the morning. This is not South Beach or Palm Beach.
Please.... shit happens...

Never problems in Colombia, Cuba, Dominican Republic, or New York. Nevertheless, I was robbed in Rio at 7:30am on a Sunday. The sun was out and there were people walking Atlantica, but that didn't make a difference.

I have known others guys who have been traveling to Latin America for 20+ years and have been victims of crime as well. If you've never been a victim of crime and none of your friends have been victims of crime, then I guess you don't know anyone.

-Helpmann :rolleyes:

Rio Bob
06-11-06, 17:39
The thieves didn't believe that I didn't have any cash on me, so they searched my pockets. It's possible that the keys just got lost in the surf after their search.

-Helpmann

Ok, you need to give the thieves something to satisfy them and let them go. These guys want to hit and run, let them think they got something and they will be gone. When I go out at night the real cash is hidden in a good spot with the spare key and the copy of the passport. The pocket in my pants contains some cash for easy access drinks and hopefully just enough for the thief to think he got something. Sometimes I even carry a wallet in my back pocket with expired credit cards and some cash, I would imagine if they find the wallet and the cash in my pocket they will be on their way and so will I after I stop shaking and have a couple of whiskies to calm the nerves.

Helpmann
06-11-06, 18:26
Ok, you need to give the thieves something to satisfy them and let them go. These guys want to hit and run, let them think they got something and they will be gone. When I go out at night the real cash is hidden in a good spot with the spare key and the copy of the passport. The pocket in my pants contains some cash for easy access drinks and hopefully just enough for the thief to think he got something. Sometimes I even carry a wallet in my back pocket with expired credit cards and some cash, I would imagine if they find the wallet and the cash in my pocket they will be on their way and so will I after I stop shaking and have a couple of whiskies to calm the nerves.You're probably right. I was happy to have something to give (the old cheap cellphone), because I don't think they would have been pleased with the answer "no tenho nada."

-Helpmann :)

Member #4156
06-11-06, 19:26
Ok, you need to give the thieves something to satisfy them and let them go. These guys want to hit and run, let them think they got something and they will be gone. When I go out at night the real cash is hidden in a good spot with the spare key and the copy of the passport.
That's a good idea Rio Bob. I learned last year from a story I read on O Dia that a woman was shot because she didn't have money for theives. Ever since then I kept a dummy wallet full of chump change and my money either inside my sole or my money belt.

JoshJosh69
06-11-06, 21:35
Is Bobby's place in business, I have been trying to get an apartment through them and don't get much of a response. Any help would be appreciated. Just looked at my ticket and realized I will be in Rio from July 1st, leaving July 9th at 6:00 to go back to NY. World Cup finals are July 9th at 4:00, don't know if anyone will be driving cab or plying planes.

JayHighFive
06-11-06, 23:17
Does anyone have any information on Barbara Butt. Her website is www.barbarabutt.com. She looks hot.

How about any other independent escorts. Can anyone report on their experances?

Jay

Bravo
06-11-06, 23:49
Does anyone have any information on Barbara Butt. Her website is www.barbarabutt.com. She looks hot.

How about any other independent escorts. Can anyone report on their experances?

Jay


Beautifull girl, but she is really only into women. She will give you a half hearted fuck because she needs money, but she prefers women

JayHighFive
06-11-06, 23:54
Beautifull girl, but she is really only into women. She will give you a half hearted fuck because she needs money, but she prefers womenBravo,

Do you recall how much she charges. I see she is into women. I may want to watch.

Thanks for the help.

Veterano
06-12-06, 01:05
In my dozen or so trips to Rio I have always used Bobby for land package (I have my own deal for air), he has always given good service, plus he is on the scene with a busy licensed office located in the middle of the action ~ very handy to have him as a friend in the event of problems

Suerte, Veterano

Ibiza007
06-12-06, 01:27
Fabiana is as advertised 1.80 tall , nice body, all and thin ., blond

100 = 1hr , the casa kinda sucks as the bed is like a kids bed , with a single bunk on top and a small dbl on the bottom, strange. She is nice , but was so so on BBBj, not sure about it, but did finally submit to it. I recommend Ana clara, in centro, of all of the research, she can really give a good performance.

I went to Rio Antigo again, and that place is a real hit and miss, I strongly suggest just going straight to 4x4 if you are already in Gloria, another 10 min and you are at 4x4. cost R$210 40 min, super tall , exotic dark girl, do not know her name. I owed my friend a FIRST pick and he got the best one by far.


I may be going to Belo Horiz, MG ... soon, any recent news, the last reports are from 05. If nothing new, is the 05' info still good?

How long by bus, 6 hrs or 8 hrs, I may take the bus if 6, but not 8, as I want to see some of brasil, other than Rio. Estimated cost via bus vs. air?

Thanks,

IBZ

Pyjama
06-12-06, 14:53
ibiza007,

took the bus to Belo twice two years ago and twice it was exactly 6h. Cost was about 50 R$ (or was ist 70?). Definitely cheaper than by plane! Unfortunately I don't remember the company :-(
Don't know about the mongering in BH, I was there for a private visit and had a private girl :-)

pyjama

Zorglub
06-12-06, 16:21
I remember paying 70 reais from Rio to Belo Horizonte two years ago.
Nice air conditionned coach; I left Rio at 11am , arrived at Belo around 6.30PM
One stop for lunch during the trip.
I went on to another small city by taxi to a friend`s place (cannot remember the name of this little town).
I don`t know Belo Horizonte at all so I cannot give you any advice.

Jim 2101
06-12-06, 21:16
Ibiza,

BH by bus takes 6 hours. Look for the schedule on www.novorio.com.br.
and for the plane on voegol.com.br. When you arrive at rodoviaria you can easily find a hotel nearby.

I went there in march 2006 and I really liked this place. The climate is more moderate as it is lies high above sea level. Also the people are very friendly as they are not used to gringos.

In the rodoviaria-area you still have the sleazy places: they start at like 8 reais!! Furthermore you have bhmodels.com.br; I can recommend Natasha; a gorgeous girl only she arrived late.

Where to eat: La Grepa on avenida Bahia close to BH palace hotel; they have an italian buffet and are open all night; To have a drink go to 'Western house'; it is nearby La Grepa.

Perkele
06-13-06, 11:52
Gentlemen!

I returned to Rio about a week ago and finally I took a look in Help.

Went there yesterday just to find out that majority of the girls are quoting ridiculous prices. They were saying that they won't leave anything less than R$ 200/hr.

What the fuck is that? Way back the price was R$150/night.

When in Rio, please try to advice the other mongers to stop those ridiculous bidding wars too. I heard that there are guys, mostly from USA, who are doing these bidding wars. Mostly black guys dressed like idiots trying to outbid each other. STUPID. There is so many women in Rio that that's simply dumb.

So Help is fucked up. Thank god there are still other areas.

Ibiza007
06-13-06, 13:25
guys, thanks for al the private and public info on bh, it is great to have such a good resource. i will post on bh when i return.

helpee prices are all over the place. if you are very patient, and go for girls with average looks, and usually better personallities, the price can be obtained for r$150 - 2 hrs, but not easily, the helpee terrace restaurant is really slow during the week.

i had a private casa girl that was interested in freelance quote me r$250 for 2 hrs and within 30 seconds, i had her believing that r$150 - 2hrs was a good deal, and she was happy to get it. negotiation does not always work, but usually it will.


obrigado,

ibz

Ibiza007
06-13-06, 13:30
For those not here, it looks like a big party is about to errupt. There are decorations everywhere, every street , every bar, this place will be crazy at 4:00pm.

When Brasil scores a goal, you might hear the noise in Miami!!!. The whole country will scream as one voice, everything is shutting down for the match, everything.

It would be a good time to break into a bank, as knowone would even respond to the alarm!

IBZ

El Greco
06-13-06, 13:32
I may be going to Belo Horiz, MG ... soon, any recent news, the last reports are from 05. If nothing new, is the 05' info still good?

How long by bus, 6 hrs or 8 hrs, I may take the bus if 6, but not 8, as I want to see some of brasil, other than Rio. Estimated cost via bus vs air?

Thanks,

IBZSpent 3 days last November at BH. Don't know about buses to BH.Arrived from Sao by air and left for Rio same way. There is a regular bus service from airport to downtown on luxury coaches for R 12 versus R 60 for taxi. Trip takes 45min.

Stayed at Savassi hotel for R105 single. Small, business type hotel, clean and confortable.

Nice area to stay with cafes and restaurants around. Ask the reception for a nice churascaria two streets behind the hotel. They recomended it for me.
They can also show you,if asked, a few photo catalogues with girls to choose from for R120/hr. I did choose a nice titty student (they all claim that they are students). She arrived within 20 min, service was good but nothing special.

Visited Rua Guaycurus a few times for about R7 taxi ride. Best selection of girls and most clean rooms at #660. Had solos for R15 and nice time twice with two different couples (mulata & blond) for R30 each. I remember I was taking double time doubling the price too. So for R60 had a trio twice for almost an hour. It was real fun. Planing to go back this October.

Also visited a couple of private places but didn't stay.Also went to the boite accros the street from hotel but was not worth staying.

If you have some extra time to spent during the day pop on bus #8106 to BH shopping.Nice drive up the hill and nice place to spend a few hours.

If you choose to stay at Savassi hotel call them for the booking. No deposit required. Never answered my e-mails.

The receptionist tried to impose a 10% unofficial service charge(on a piece of paper) on me during check out which I immediately refused.

Have fun

El Greco

Java Man
06-13-06, 16:57
Termas Solarium and Monte Carlo are have World Cup promos. Catch is you have to present the e-mail regarding the promo to the reception desk. How to get the e-mail? get on there list.

Solarium:
On days Brazil plays, R10 off cover charge for every goal Brazil scores.
AND 2 free Bacardi Rum & cokes....WOW! lol

Monte Carlo:
During the World Cup except on days when Brazil plays: R40 cover charge and R30 cabin. also a R50 discount during the World Cup, (maybe for a session, the e-mail wasn't clear on that discount)

anyone wants the e-mails, lemme kno.

BTW
6/12 Brazil vs. Croatia
6/18 Brazil ve Australia
6/22 Brazil vs Japan

I'm back in Rio this Fri.

Member #4156
06-14-06, 01:54
Hmmmm. Nice observation Perke. But I wonder what you think about your white brethren going around here paying R500 to jack off on a girl's back and not fuckin em eh? Sounds like a brilliant business plan don't you think?

Ee2002
06-17-06, 06:54
pyjama, thats probably true.i have been to vm and there are some diamonds in the rough.my main thing with that place is the dirty rooms and lack of shower/towels.if the girl can't or don't clean up before and after fucking than i will pass,especially when they are fucking one dirty dick after another.as far as street girls on atlantico and prado jr, just the fact that they are hanging among t/v's is enough to keep me away.plus there is a good chance they might be ****.

RxHammer
06-18-06, 10:12
Hey guys,

Returned Wednesday from an 8 day trip to Rio and had a great time as usual. I left on Tuesday afternoon at halftime of Brazil's World Cup opener and it was WEIRD !! It was like a science fiction movie where 99.9% of the population has been killed or disappears....the streets were EMPTY. The 30-40 minute drive to the airport?, did it in 20 minutes tops. Hardly a car on the road. At one point I saw a line of at least 25 taxis parked and empty at the curb. All the drivers, and eveyone else, were watching the game. In a city of 8-9 million it was sureal.

Anyway, off-season isn't so bad. Help was the emptiest I've ever seen but it was a great ratio of mongers/garotas and a buyers market. Most I paid was 200R TLN for very nice looking, non-crazy garotas. In that enviroment just be patient, never agree to their first offer and be nice. The closer 3am comes the more flexible the girls, trust me. I had one hottie 2 nights and her opener was 350R SHORT-TIME. I told her I was poor and 250R long time was all I could afford. She said the guy she was talking to earlier would pay 350R. I said fine, go with him. 10 minutes later she's back and says 250R is fine. So I said it's TLN. she leaves again. 10 minutes later she's back and says OK. So I say now the price is 200R. She rolls her eyes and says OK let's go. She was very attractive, great body and fantastic on the dance floor. She was OK in the sack the first time, I think sometime the negotiating can take some of the enthusiasm out of them. But the second night we knew each other and she loosened up and we had a great time. People bag on Help but I still like the thrill of the hunt.

Went to Monte Carlo and Solarium two times each. Prices are the same as reported earlier. At Monte Carlo look for Barbie, tall and very thin fake blonde with extensions. She's a sweetheart and does a great service. I did her solo and in a dupla with Thais, a body building blonde of marginal looks but good service. Also ask for Ingred. She's a pocket rocket, 5' 98lbs, white complexion, black hair and extensions. Had her solo and in another dupla with Thais (I let the girls pick their partners & both picked her??). This girl is very, very sweet and does a great job to please. Also saw her after work. We went to a dance club and then to my place for three rounds, 3 in bed and 1 in the shower. She told me previously she didn't go completa but she did that night. Stayed till 2pm the next day. I'll see her again for sure. Barbie to for that matter!!

Solarium talent was a little off since my last visit in March. I did a dupla with two mulattas (sorry, can't remember names). Everything offered and finiched with CIM while DATY'ing the other. Great session. Second visit went with Fabiana, great session, everything offered and she has a beautiful face but the body is a little soft. Great attitude and very fun in the cabina. Prices same at both termas.

As everyone knows, inflation has Rio so shop around for new places to eat out of tourist areas etc, etc. I had a great time and didn't spend too much more than previous trips. Hopefully the exchange rate will keep improving. I got 2.20 at Help and ATM's (Banco do Brasil, HSBC).

Rented an apartment from David at Gringomanagement.com...nice studio, just remodled, $50US/night on Djalma Ulrich. Have used him many times and no complaints....

Have fun, play safe

Hammer

PS Malay Sparks...you're kidding, right ????????????

Admin
06-19-06, 18:09
Greetings everyone,

I have moved the "Safe Sex/HIV/AIDS" discussions to a new thread titled "Safe Sex in Brazil"

I have moved the "Where can I rent an apartment" discussion to the existing thread titled "Rio de Janeiro - Hotels & Apartments".

Thanks,

Jackson

Catalyst
06-20-06, 03:02
I arrived at Bob’s at 11:30 and found Lia’s friend there but no Lia. We sat and waited and after about 20 minutes I started to get nervous. Lia’s friend got out her cell phone and called her and there was no answer. She said she didn’t think Lia was going to show up. After 30 or 40 minutes we gave up. She asked if I was interested in going with just her and I said no, if we were going to go all the way to the motel it was going to have to be something special. But I did invite her to Porcau with me, which seemed to make her happy.

My plane left in the evening and Centaurus didn’t open until 4:00 PM, so the tasks before me needed to be accomplished quickly. After paying for the session with Lia the night before it dawned on me what a good deal two girl sessions were compared with one girl sessions. When you took the second girl you still only paid once for the room, so a two girl session was less than twice the price of a one girl session, and you got lesbian action thrown in for free. And you got to try out twice as many girls. So I decided to stick to two girl sessions.

Andrease was there. She might have smiled at me, but she didn’t come over or otherwise welcome me. The previous day, after our session, she didn’t come over and sit with me the way Leticia did at L’Uomo or like Christiana did here at Centaurus. I attributed this to her being a beauty that was in demand by everyone. I went to her and made some comment in a friendly way about how she seemed to have forgotten me or was avoiding me. She was taken aback and was quickly apologetic. She said that she is very careful not to pressure people into going with her and was very sorry if she seemed unfriendly. Now I regretted saying anything about it and making her feel bad, but it was quickly forgotten and everything was ok.

Andrease, and
Beatrice, looks 11, attitude 10.

I told her I wanted to go with her and another girl, and that it would be best if we could find a girl that we both liked. She said she had just the girl. She led me to Beatrice, who is perhaps the most gorgeous working girl I have ever seen in my life. She had long golden blonde hair and dazzling blue eyes. Her figure was perfect. Her face was young and angelic. She looked like Alicia Silverstone in the movie Clueless. Years later her picture was still on the wall at Centaurus even though she left the club a couple of months after this meeting. Andrease smiled broadly and said excitedly “She is eighteen years old!”

We did the three-way make-out on the bench seat and in the room they went down on each other, did double blow jobs, made out with each other including while I was inside one of them, and I finished by cumming in both of their mouths together. It was possibly the best sex I have ever had. One moment I particularly liked was when they were lying next to one another and I was going down on them, switching back and forth, and I looked up and saw that they were holding hands and smiling at each other.

I was working on my second pop when the phone rang. Time was up. They suggested that we could extend for another 50 minutes and I agreed. So we called downstairs and I spoke to the front desk, but because of the language barrier or maybe just because they were uptight they wanted me to come down and pay in advance. Well, that would spoil the moment, plus take up valuable time, which I was short on that day, so I decided to forget it. If I was going to get dressed and go downstairs I might as well at least change girls. But in retrospect I regret that decision. I was getting an inkling of why no one likes the management at this place.

Lia, and
Susanna

I wanted to get in one more session before leaving, and after showering I saw that both Lia and Susanna had arrived. Two consecutive sessions each with two tens was the perfect way to end this trip, and the misunderstanding that I had had with Andrease made me wonder if Suzanna’s remote attitude couldn’t be attributed to a similar misunderstanding. Maybe she would warm up if I took her for a second session. I asked Lia what had happened that morning and she brushed it aside, saying that we hadn’t made final definite plans to meet, so she had figured there was no plan. That sounded lame to me. I thought she just hadn’t wanted to show up, but I wasn’t sure why.

Andrease and Beatrice arrived just as I was leaving with Lia and Susanna and I saw Andrease point us out to Beatrice and they both laughed. I regretted not being able to chat for a while with Andrease and Beatrice, but I had to be out of there by about 7:00 PM. Lia was great and Susanna didn’t warm up that much but she still wasn’t bad either. It didn’t really matter since they were both so beautiful and anyway I was starting to get limp after a week of nonstop sex. When I finished I thought that even if I stayed for another week I wasn’t sure I would be able to pop again.

Afterwards I went back to the main room to enjoy a last few moments of relaxing, seeing all the beautiful girls, and saying goodbye to some. Andrease came up to me and asked me if I wanted to spend all day the next day at the beach with her as it was Sunday, her only day off. I was totally surprised and of course extremely disappointed to have to tell her that I was leaving in a few hours. I raced back to my hotel in time to meet the car I had arranged to take me to the airport. I was embarrassed at airport security when my condoms set off the metal detector and I had to take them out of my pocket and show them.

Catalyst
06-20-06, 03:02
I could have gone back to L’Uomo to see Leticia or called her, but I wanted to explore more of the culture of this wonderful land. I had read in the Internet that Centaurus was expensive but good, and after the recommendation of the guys I had met a couple of days ago I was willing to splurge. When I arrived I was surprised after all the talk by how small the price difference was (then at least) compared with L’Uomo. In both places it was 100 reals for the girl and in L’Uomo it was 20 for the room while in Centaurus it was 40 for the room. There was also an entrance fee at Centaurus, and they made me pay for the first girl upfront, which I didn’t mind much since I had no intention of wasting an entrance fee, particularly after having seen some nice girls downstairs near the reception area.

The moment I walked into the main room upstairs I could see how different it was. There were many more girls and they were of clearly higher quality. It was early on a Friday and some of the best girls hadn’t even shown up yet. A lot of Brazilian girls have a particular look with thick athletic bodies and moderate chests, which grows on you , but I was still getting used to it. At the same time I noticed a few real beauties, so nice that I was afraid to approach them at first.

Christiana, looks 7, attitude 10 and
Isabelle, looks 6, attitude 5

Christiana had long black hair and an athletic body. She sat with me and was friendly and good company. There were some nicer looking girls and I was wondering if I should save myself for them, but I liked her and then Isabelle passed by and asked me if I wanted two girls. I still didn’t know that most girls in Rio are happy to have sex with other girls, so I thought this was an opportunity I should not miss and I said yes. Isabelle wouldn’t have been my first choice for a pairing with Christiana. She had just an ok figure and an ok face with a bit of a rough complexion and shoulder length sandy blonde hair.

I was quickly treated to what I learned later was a signature Centaurus offering. They each sat on either side of me, took turns making out with me, and then leaned forward and made out with each other directly in front of me. Christiana was nice in the room, and in some ways it was great to have two girls who were more cooperative and into sex with each other than just about any I had ever been with, but Isabelle was remote. I regretted picking her. Afterwards we didn’t say hello to one another when we passed by. I wondered if she just had a poor attitude or if she didn’t like me because she could tell that she wasn’t my preferred choice. Christiana, on the other hand, was really nice. She sat with me several times and we had long talks about girlfriends, boyfriends, what it’s like to work in Centaurus, her boyfriend, her child ... We hit it off really well.

Andrease, looks 10, attitude 10, and
Name?, looks 9, attitude 6.

Andrease was one of the beautiful girls who I was afraid to approach at first. She looked like a California surfer girl. She had silky blonde hair to her shoulders, a tight athletic body, and a nice tan. Her English was good. She told me that she was very concerned about staying in shape and doesn’t smoke or drink. She was a student in law school. Being frustrated that my last doubles session didn’t go the way I wanted made me determined to get it right and I decided to try again right away. I asked her if she would do one and she said yes, but this time I said that I wanted to pick the girl. I pointed out a really pretty petite girl with nice soft black hair and a beautiful face. Andrease said she would like doing it with her and brought her over. We sat on the bench seats in the main area. Again I got the three-way make-out and off to the room we went.

Andrease was great, and the other girl was sexy, but was almost as remote as Isabelle. They kissed and went down on each other, but the other girl didn’t talk much and was sometimes reluctant about kissing and less enthusiastic in general. It was still a good time and it made a difference that they were both really hot. I wondered if there wasn’t an etiquette that the second girl tries not to be too nice to the guy that the original girl saw first. In spite of the drawbacks I was pretty happy having group sex with gorgeous girls who were willing to do each other, and I was confident that it could get even better.

It was getting late and more people were showing up, including some additional girls who looked really beautiful. At some point I had a revelation that - incredibly and contrary to what I had taken to be one of the immutable laws of the universe - drinks were reasonably priced in spite of sexual services being offered on the premises. I was finally starting to relax in Rio. I was becoming familiar with the system and finding that I could let my guard way down from where it had been when I arrived. Everyone was not hell bent on ripping me off.

Susanna, looks 10, attitude 6.

Susanna was quiet and seemed a bit aloof. She never came over to me with a sales pitch; she didn’t have to. She was hot enough that she was plenty popular regardless of how she acted. I decided to give her a try, and I wasn’t disappointed, but I didn’t make much of a connection with her. We had straightforward sex. I had a good time, but I guessed she was so beautiful that she was getting constant attention from all the guys there and I was just one more of them.

Lia, looks 10, attitude 10

I was really getting into this place and more and more had the feeling that I was surrounded everywhere by beautiful girls. I passed by Lia and was immediately struck by her face, which was wide and had a cat-like look, particularly her eyes. She had short dark hair and was tall with a tight athletic body. I stopped dead in my tracks and sat with her the moment I saw her. We hit it off and sat together for a long time, including watching a show, before getting a room, only now there was a wait so we got to sit together for even longer. She too, like Andrease, was a law student. I think they were at the same university.

In the room the sex was great. When I looked at us in the mirror I was really struck by what I had underneath me. This was a hot beautiful athletic young girl and she was my girlfriend, at least for about an hour. She seemed shy and didn’t want me to cum in her mouth, but when I didn’t finish quickly she took off the condom and finished me off with a great cim. I had the feeling she was making an exception for me.

Afterwards while talking to her I met a friend of hers who spoke Spanish and who translated some phrases for us. The friend was not so bad, and I asked if they would be interested in coming with me together to a motel sometime late the next morning as Centaurus didn’t open until 4:00 PM on Saturdays. Lia said she’d do it for two hours for 200 reals for each girl. That seemed expensive and strict, but I didn’t really think the time limits would be firm. I figured that once we got to the motel they would both be happy to spend the whole day with me, or at least until Centaurus opened and we could go over together. Maybe the sex would only last 2 hours, but then we would hang out on the beach and get drinks. She did warn me that if a girl didn’t show up at Centaurus at all she paid a fine of I think 100 reals, so they would have to go back to the club in the afternoon. We said we’d all three meet the next morning at the Bob’s restaurant on Copacabana beach near Help at 11:30. That would give us time to run over the two hour limit. Lia gave me her number. We didn’t do a repeat confirmation when we all said goodnight, but it seemed clear to me that it had been decided.

It was 2:00 AM - closing time - when I left. When I took off my robe and tossed it aside the cleaning woman was right there to pick up the discarded robes and towels. I started to get into the shower and then suddenly remembered that I had left Lia’s number in the pocket of the robe. Not only did I need it, but I knew that the girls could get in trouble if they tried to arrange meetings outside the club so I didn’t want the management to find it. I said something in conveniently bumbling Portugnol about having left something in the pocket and grabbed the robe back. Even if the woman saw what I was taking out she wouldn’t know whose number it was and she probably wouldn’t care anyway.

I deeply regretted waiting until I only had one and a half days left in my trip before trying this place.

Catalyst
06-20-06, 03:03
It was nice to see Leticia in street clothes outside in the sunlight when she showed up at the Copacabana. I took her to the restaurant in the hotel and asked her what she wanted. I told her that there was a buffet, which I had tried and it was good, and that there were also a la carte items if she preferred those. She looked at the menu and I couldn’t tell if she was having trouble making up her mind or if she just didn’t want to say what she wanted, but after some prodding she smiled and said “the buffet”. I had the impression that she had really wanted it all along but was afraid to ask because it was expensive.

The buffet was nice. I remember seeing her putting things on her plate and feeling both happy and sad; happy because she seemed to be really enjoying it, but sad because she probably didn’t get to do things like this very often. I asked her if she wanted to come to a motel with me and she said yes. I tried to ask if we could get another girl to join us. I was drawing pictures of a guy and two girls to communicate with her, but she said she didn’t know of anyone who could come right away. She was mostly quiet and shy, but at one point I drew a picture of a second guy and she said not impolitely but loudly enough that I was worried that other people could hear (in Portuguese, but I understood) “I don’t want to make love with two men!”.

She asked me where the bathroom was and I pointed to it. She asked me if I would go over there with her and I said of course. I was struck that she was afraid to go by herself. I wasn’t sure if she thought everyone could tell what she did for a living and would be snickering at her. Any differences between her and ordinary women weren’t obvious to me, other than perhaps the fact that she was with a foreigner. She had no obvious signs like tattoos, piercings, or dyed hair, but maybe people could tell from her clothes or from something about her appearance. I wonder if she thought that someone would challenge her and make a scene, maybe even ask her to leave. I felt sad for her.

We finished eating, left, and walked down the beach hand in hand. We were definitely going to the motel, but it was nice to just walk down the beach and be in the sun like ordinary people. Maybe this was business, but it didn’t feel like it. I had never done anything like this with a working girl before. After walking a few blocks we got a cab to the motel.

Every day I was discovering something new, trying different experiences. I had never been to a Brazilian love motel. We went to Shalimar. I got a kick out of the covered parking spaces that allow people to arrive in their cars without worrying that they might be recognized. The room we got had a swimming pool with a roof that opened, a dining room, and a huge bedroom with mirrors, disco lights, and a stereo system. It was Disneyland for horny single males. And it was only 75 reals for 6 hours. I turned on the stereo and she asked if we could leave it off because she spends all day in a club listening to disco music pounding away and really wanted to enjoy some quiet for a change. (I’m of course extrapolating from what I could understand of her Portuguese, but I’m pretty sure I got that part right.)

We spent a little more than 6 hours in the club. I got a lot of blowjobs and came in her mouth a lot. It was no longer the I’m not sure I want to do this but I’ll let you cum on the outside of my mouth of a couple of days ago. This was blowing all over her tongue with lots of post bj cleanup. The price included a nice meal that we had delivered to the dining room in discreet fashion. I paid twice for the room because we ran over by a half hour or an hour, but I didn’t mind. I’m usually a cheap bastard about that kind of thing, but in this case I thought paying the extra reals was worth not worrying about the time. I tried to get her interested in sex by the pool, but the roof was open and strangely she was shy about doing it in a place that was exposed to the sky, even though there didn’t seem to be any way anyone could possibly see us.

She asked me if Karina had said anything bad about her in the club the day before. I said no, that when I made out with Karina and told her to go get Leticia she had simply said, yes of course, and that I was glad that I tricked her. Leticia told me that Karina was beautiful, but she didn’t have any regular customers because she treated everyone like crap. She instead relied on one time visitors who didn’t know what she was like. She said that Karina had been drunk the day we did the doubles session and Karina didn’t think that I was going to pay anything for it at all. I was quite interested in the concept that I might have had the option to refuse to pay anything (and not get beaten to a pulp) instead of settling for a price of 300. I was learning the ropes.

After our third round there seemed to be a natural stopping point. She probably would have stayed with me longer, but as all of this was new to me I had no idea of how long I should expect her to stay. And even with a nice girl just lying in a windowless room was getting old after more than six hours anyway. I wondered how much money I should give her. I even wondered if I had to give her any money at all. She had mentioned to me that she usually had three customers a day at L’Uomo and we had gone three rounds together, so I gave her 300 reals which would have been her earnings from seeing three guys at L’Uomo. She acted embarrassed to accept it which was sweet. We got a cab back to Copacabana and I might have dropped her off near L’Uomo, I don’t remember. She gave me her number. I never asked where she lived. I didn’t know if it was any of my business or not.

Catalyst
06-20-06, 03:04
I went sightseeing during the day, and when I returned to L’Uomo I was surprised when Karina came over right away and sat with me. We immediately started making out, and the kissing was much hotter than ever before with her or even with Leticia in the main room. I got some good gropes. I felt like she owed me, so I pushed it, and I sensed that she didn’t like it, but she barely resisted because now it was she who didn’t want to risk upsetting me. At the time I thought she was trying to make up for her behavior the day before, but looking back I think she was just so brazen and thought I was such an idiot that she thought I would actually go with her again. After a good long period of deep kissing and groping she asked me if I wanted to get a room. I said yes. I told her I wanted her to get a room for one girl and would she please go get Leticia for me. Touché.

I had a nice time with Leticia and as usual she sat with me afterwards. I discussed doubles sessions with her and asked if maybe Karina wasn’t the wrong pick for a doubles session with her. She seemed uncomfortable with the question. All of this was made much more difficult by a significant language barrier. I didn’t know if the problem was Karina, or if it was just that girls in Rio don’t like being made to do lesbian sex.. (Go ahead and laugh. You were all newbies once too.) I asked her if it might be better with a different girl. She said it might. I asked her if maybe she had a friend who she particularly liked doing it with. Her face lit up with a huge smile and she said yes!

Leticia, and
Friend (name?), looks 6, attitude 9.

I don’t remember the name of her friend. She was tall and skinny, with long frizzy blonde hair. She wasn’t super hot, she was bony and had a bad complexion, but she was good enough. This was the first time I had ever been with two girls who were as interested in each other as in me. I particularly remember one moment when they were both on their knees holding each other tight as they made out and ignored me

Afterwards I asked Leticia if she was free the next day. She said that she was supposed to work, but it would be easy for her to blow the club off for a day since they knew she was one of their better girls. I wanted to try to arrange a day with two girls, but her friend didn’t quite have the necessary physical credentials and there was no other obvious candidate in the club to negotiate with right then. She gave me her number and we agreed to meet the next day in front of the Copacabana at lunch time.

In the locker room I ran into some other guys who spoke good English. We compared notes. My experience was pretty limited since I had only seen Help one night and L’Uomo the rest of the time. L’Uomo had been a sure thing for me. I only had a few days in Rio and I didn’t want to take any risks with my valuable time on places that I knew little about other than from Internet reports, which seemed to be only partially reliable. In contrast these guys had tried out several different places. I asked them what was good. They said Centaurus was good ... L’Uomo was good ... Terma 65 was good ... I asked them what was best. They looked at each other, broke into a smile, and said in unison “Centaurus!”

Again I stopped by Help on the way home, but without necessarily the intention to leave with someone. Again, the girl from the first night wasn’t there, but the black haired girl I noticed dancing the night before was. I also saw a really nice looking blonde girl and approached her, but she wouldn’t even speak to me. Maybe she just didn’t like me, but she wasn’t mixing it up with other guys either. I didn’t know if she just wasn’t working or if maybe she was brand new and unsure whether she wanted to be there.

Nana, looks 9, attitude 7

So I asked the black haired girl to dance and she said yes. Her name was Nana. We danced for a long time and she seemed to like me. She spoke good English. I don’t remember much about the conversation, but when it came time to get down to business she was very direct, even bossy. When we left she ordered me to buy her some Chiclets from the old candy lady standing by the door, and I did, but when she told me to use one of the cabs in front of the club I told her to forget it and she let it drop. She said she had a place for us to go which I thought meant her apartment, but it turned out to be a short-time hotel. We got a room for two or three hours and I don’t remember what the room cost or what I paid her, but I remember thinking both prices were reasonable.

The room was fairly nice, certainly compared to what I would have expected from a short-time sex hotel. The sex was pretty good, though there seemed to be some random restrictions. Kissing wasn’t completely free, but it wasn’t bad. She had no problem with bbbj, but said no to cim, and absolutely refused to let me go down on her. Then she seemed to like it when I came all over her tits.

After a couple of rounds she seemed to warm up and we got along better. When we left she gave me her number and walked off. I realized that she had picked this particular short-term hotel because it was right next to where she lived. I liked her too, and I thought that maybe if I called her things would get better, but it had been businesslike, not as wild as in the termas, so I probably wasn’t going to see her again. Now I had two experiences at Help that were below terma quality and I had two girls who I kind of preferred not to run into, so I skipped Help for the rest of my trip. I did, however, think about the fact that if I got along really well with a girl from Help she might be like my girlfriend; she wouldn’t have to go to work most days. So I wondered if I was making a mistake. But even if I was things were working out just fine.

Catalyst
06-20-06, 03:05
After a day of sightseeing, including the Pau de Acucar, I returned to L’Uomo. I had experienced a Rio bbbj, I had cum in girls mouths, now I wanted to try two girls together and have them do each other, a fantasy that I had experienced in New York and Amsterdam, but ... well, need I say more?

Just as I arrived there was a great show in the middle of the room where girls came out wearing whipped cream bikinis and licked them off of each other. Besides being highly entertaining and giving me the feeling that there really were different rules here in Rio this was a good signal about exactly what I was interested in that day; the girls’ willingness to do doubles sessions. Karina was one of the girls in the show, and I also saw that Leticia was there on the side. They were still the two best looking girls in the place and I thought it would be great to get them together. Maybe Karina’s attitude hadn’t been that bad the day before, or so I was able to convince myself.

Karina and Leticia

I anxiously wondered whether it would be difficult to get the two of them together. Would they both be free at the same time? What if one of them left early? Were they both into other girls and would they like each other? I sat with Leticia first, since she was the friendlier one, and asked her if she was interested in doing it with Karina. She said yes, though in retrospect I wonder if there was something hesitant about her answer. I saw Karina pass by a guy and stop to give him a long deep kiss, so her attitude was looking better. I could also see enough of her skin under her uniform to tell that her tit decal had been removed. Leticia called Karina over, discussed with her, and Karina nodded and sat down on the other side of me. I made out with both of them for a few minutes and then was brought to the desk for instructions in Portuguese.

The woman at the desk wrote numbers on a pad of paper. Taking one girl at a time was 120 reals for 40 minutes, but for 2 girls the woman at the desk recommended a “switch” at 350 reals for 60 minutes. (Later I figured out that “switch” was the pronunciation of the Portuguese word for “suite” and that it actually isn’t necessary to get a suite to see two girls.) This was quite reasonable by any standards that I was familiar with, so I agreed.

The suite had a large round bed and its own shower. Inside we all kissed, and then Karina knelt down and blew me while I made out with Leticia. We put Karina on the bed and Leticia and I both went down on her. So far it was a dream session. When I got on top of Karina and started banging her, though, I noticed some of the remoteness and indifference about kissing from the day before. So I moved over and made out with Leticia while I continued banging Karina.

When I was done Karina went into the bathroom to clean up. Leticia and I cuddled on the bed and Karina had been taking a long time when I heard the shower go on. This wasn’t good. I looked at Leticia and she smiled but she seemed uncomfortable. It was hard for me to do anything about this. I couldn’t speak the language. After about 20 minutes Karina came out of the shower and started fumbling about the room. She said a couple of things to Leticia in a cold tone and then picked up the phone and spoke for a moment. She hung up and said “cabo”. I didn’t have to speak any Portuguese to know what that meant. We had been in the room for less than 40 minutes, and Karina had been in the shower for half of that time.

In situations like this in the establishments that I was accustomed to patronizing one typically finds on hand - out of sight but available at a moment’s notice - gentlemen of ample proportions and keen persuasive capacity who can explain the reasonableness of the ladies’ behavior to those to whom it is not immediately apparent. Being in unfamiliar circumstances in a foreign country where I didn’t speak the language and which had a reputation for lawlessness called for a high level of caution on my part. However, there are limits to human tolerance. I went to the woman at the desk in a terrified rage, amazed at my recklessness, and calmly explained as well as I could in a quiet voice that everything had started out fine and that Leticia had been great, but that Karina had not quite provided all of the services that I had understood to be included in the price with a level of enthusiasm that one might be entitled to expect. The woman quickly reached under the counter - for a gun I assumed - and took out a pen and paper. She wrote 350, crossed it out, and wrote 300.

I couldn’t believe my eyes! I had just negotiated a price reduction! She had actually taken my side! I wanted to jump for joy and hug her The concept of not paying the full price or more for sexual services that one had agreed to, regardless of the trivial concern of whether or not they were actually provided, was completely foreign to me. A new world had just been unveiled. (It took a long time for me to understand just how pathetically pussy whipped I was back then.) In spite of my euphoria, the mood for sex was lost for that day, so I left. That night I had my first dinner at Porcau, which was almost as thrilling as a day in a terma.

After dinner I returned to Help. I didn’t see the girl from the first night. The selection wasn’t much better than on the first night and I ended up leaving alone partly because of the lack of opportunities but also because I wanted to sightsee the next day and I didn’t want to be miserable from staying up all night. There was actually a nice looking girl with straight black hair who I might have been interested in, but I saw her dancing with several other guys and when I looked at her she wouldn’t make eye contact, so I didn’t know what to do about her.

Catalyst
06-20-06, 03:05
The next day I woke up late and walked down the famous Copacabana beach to the Hotel Copacabana and had the buffet lunch. Then I did more sightseeing and exploring in the area and finally I walked to L’Uomo , which didn’t look far on the map, but the map was deceptive. It was a long and tiring walk. Plus, when I got to the shopping complex in the late afternoon it took forever to realize that I was in the right place and then to find L’Uomo in the complex. I asked a guard for directions to the address and was surprised at how casual he was about giving them. (In most places that I was familiar with you could expect either sharp disapproval or smug snickering when you asked how to get to such a venue.)

I walked in and had to conduct my entry to the club in Portuguese. Again, being in an unfamiliar situation, all kinds of negative thoughts went through my head. I wondered what kind of ripoffs or misunderstandings awaited me inside. But my thoughts were not all negative ones. I was also thrilled at the possibilities. I didn’t pay an entrance free, or maybe as long as I took a girl there was none. I had never been given a locker and a bathrobe before; it was so much more relaxed and civilized than going to see a window girl in Amsterdam, although it made me nervous to be separated from my wallet and my clothes.

Karina, looks 9, attitude 4

Inside I was again disappointed by the girls after having read the exaggerated reports on the Internet of how they all looked like supermodels. Some were totally worthless. Still, I noticed a couple that I liked. The best looking one was Karina. She had dark shoulder length hair, a nice face, white skin, and a great figure, particularly her chest. She came and sat with me and we started to make out. This was good. This meant good action in the room. This didn’t happen in Amsterdam. There was some light groping, but I could sense that there were limits and I didn’t want to push them and spoil things with her. She was clearly the best looking girl in the place at the moment and I didn’t know if there would be other nice ones later or not.

In the room she took off the bathing suit uniform that she had on and revealed that her tits were covered with what looked at first like a tattoo, but was in reality a velvet material pasted onto her skin. This was unfortunate as it was almost like a layer of clothing. We dfk’d and she bbbj’d me, which was really exciting, far wilder than anything I had ever had in Amsterdam. But otherwise her attitude was lousy. I thought that I must have done something to turn her off or that she simply didn’t like me. After a while she became less and less interested in kissing. She asked me if I liked her tit decals and I said no. I asked her if I could cum in her mouth and she said no. The session ended in a bit of an unfriendly mood. So far I wasn’t crazy about Rio. I had gotten everything I had read about—bbbj, cim, deep kissing—so these claims were factually correct, but it was like a deal with the Devil where I had gotten what I had been promised but somehow I had still been tricked, I still wasn’t happy and the Devil was laughing at me.

So what had gone wrong? Were the internet reports all written by guys who looked like Brad Pitt who these girls really wanted to sleep with even though they were asking for money, and the girls would sleep with me too, but they would let me know that they didn’t like it? Or were the internet reports all written by unattractive losers who only picked the ugly girls and considered them to be models, and meanwhile the attractive girls all gave lousy service? Rio was letting me down.

Leticia, looks 7, attitude 9

The next best looking girl in the place was Leticia. She had nice long blonde hair, blue eyes, white skin, and a nice face. She had a bit of flab on her rear, but it wasn’t really noticeable. This session went much better, with nice kissing, and finishing in her mouth, though it was more on her mouth than in it. What was particularly nice, though, was that she sat with me afterwards and we chatted and even kissed some. It still wasn’t quite meeting my high expectations, but this friendly attitude and cooperative approach to sex was much better and I was finally starting to see what Rio was about.

When I left the woman at the counter was nice to me. She could see that I had enjoyed myself. She told me not to walk home alone, that she would call a taxi and I should wait inside until it arrived before going downstairs. I skipped Help that night. The termas seemed far superior, I didn’t like staying up all night and wrecking the next day, and if I went there and the girl from the first night was there I would feel awkward not leaving with her. She was nice; I didn’t really want to avoid her. But I wanted variety. The girls at L’Uomo were wilder than the Help girl I had been with, and I wanted to continue exploring possibilities there and elsewhere. I was worried that if I saw the Help girl from the first night again I might end up spending a big chunk of the rest of my trip with her and miss other experiences.

Catalyst
06-20-06, 03:06
I arrived in Rio late on a Sunday afternoon. The taxi from the airport kept within six inches of any car in front of us and I struggled unsuccessfully to communicate to the driver that this was not safe. I checked into the Debret, which I found to be dreary. Most things in Rio were cheap, but not the hotels. I walked around the immediate area to explore and locate Help, and then returned to wash up. I stepped out onto the street at about 11:30 PM with some 400 reals in my pockets that I had gotten from the ATM at the airport and headed to Help.

Initially I was very disappointed. The “biggest disco in Latin America” wasn’t as big or impressive as I had expected. Much more importantly, I had read glorious reports on the internet of the model quality women that filled it and this was absolutely not the case. Even on a good night Help can put on quite a freak show - comparable to Thermae in Bangkok - and this was not a particularly good night. I only saw a small handful of girls that I was interested in and most of these were already dancing with someone. I remember in particular being frustrated when I saw that a small dark haired girl I had noticed who I wasn’t all that interested in anyway was with someone else. The girls weren’t hot and they weren’t even available.

An added complication was the language barrier. My Spanish was not bad, but I spoke no Portuguese. I assumed almost all the women there were working, but I had heard that there were ones who weren’t, and how awkward would it be if I picked someone who wasn’t and didn’t figure this out right away because of the language barrier. I was confused by the tables near the entrance where people were drinking bottles of champagne. Who would spend real money on expensive drinks with a working girl they had just met? Champagne always scares me when women are involved; it is always a danger sign. There was a lot that I didn’t understand.

Name? Looks 8, attitude 8

I wandered and sized people up for an hour or so before I noticed a cute girl with straight shoulder length black hair and very white skin smiling at me. I wish I could remember her name. She was very soft spoken, which I found pleasant. Most of my mongering experience to this point was in Amsterdam, so I was used to being bossed around by cold-hearted bitches quoting prices and rules. This girl was sweet, and her English was good enough that we could communicate pretty well.

Still, I was very much on my guard. I had never played this pleasant game before where one never mentions that a business transaction is going on. I was used to being greeted with “Ya! Haloo. F--- and s--- iz hoonert gilder!” When we sat down she asked if I would buy her a drink and of course I said yes, but I immediately set my radar to scan for expensive drink hustles, drugs put in my drink, or other worries. The fabulous reports about all the women in Help being models were clearly completely wrong, so maybe the reports about transactions that went smoothly and GFEs were similarly exaggerated. She was being sweet and pleasant and I could barely enjoy it because I was so suspicious, worrying about how we were going to close the deal and what could go wrong. To illustrate this, at one point she said “Eu tem fome” (I am hungry), and put her hand on her stomach. For a moment I freaked out because what she had said sounded like “eu tem deforme” (I have a deformity??) and I thought she was warning me that there was going to be some unpleasant anatomical surprise when she took off her clothes. This may sound like a crazy idea, but she said it with a concerned tone (because she was asking a favor) and I had seen many freakish sights during the past hour. I was relieved when I realized she was asking if we could order some food and further relieved when it was reasonably priced.

I waited for her to say something and eventually she popped the question. We had a brief discussion in the club that included $100 US for the night and specified bbbj and cim. I had read on the internet about how common these extras were in Rio, and having spent so much time in Amsterdam these were rare and highly prized luxuries for me. I didn’t like discussing money or details of service since it detracted from the GFE, but I was very keen to try bbbj and cim, so I wanted to make sure I would get them.

Another complication was that I was too paranoid to take her back to my hotel room where I had my money, passport, camera, and other possessions. Sure I could put them in the safe, but where would I put the key? And what would the people in the hotel say if I came back with a girl? (Nothing, I now know.) I had heard about love motels, but I didn’t know where they were or what they cost. I asked her if she had a place where we could go, and fortunately she lived nearby in an apartment that she shared with her friend and agreed to take me there.

I liked the fact that she told me not to use the taxis in front of Help. I had seen the signs inside with the same warning. She was looking out for me. Her apartment was close enough that we could have walked. At the time I thought the car was for convenience, but now I think it was for security. As we approached her building I became anxious about what her apartment would be like; would it be a filthy hovel that would fill me with guilt and spoil the experience? Would surly neighbors glare at me as we entered? Would rats and vermin scurry in front of us?

It wasn’t exactly luxurious, but it wasn’t worse than girls her age put up with in most western countries. It was in a perfectly clean building of several stories. There was a night guard. It was a large studio and was noisy because of the street traffic outside. There was a bathroom with an ok shower, a kitchenette behind a curtain, and beds for her and for her roommate, who had come in the taxi with us because she hadn’t found a guy at Help.

After showering it was time for a new world to be revealed to me; the world of Rio girls eager to give bbbjs to completion. Until it actually happened I wouldn’t believe it. And when it finally happened it was like having sex for the first time in that I was too nervous to enjoy it properly. It didn’t go completely smoothly either. First she wanted to put on a condom and I had to remind her that we agreed on bareback. But she quickly acquiesced and then it was nice. I got on top of her and that was nice too and even a little wild since we were doing it with her friend in the bed next to us trying to sleep (or perhaps realizing that it was futile, but pretending to sleep so as not to disturb us). The apartment was on the second or third floor and some light came in the window from a nearby streetlamp, so we weren’t completely in the dark.

Again I had to remind her about finishing in her mouth, but she agreed and it was a real cim. I could hardly believe it was simply included in the price. In Amsterdam once in a very rare while you might find it for double or triple the base price. But I was so nervous about it and so wary about whether I was somehow going to get tricked out of it at the last moment, whether it was going to be good if it did go right, and whether it would end up costing extra, that I didn’t enjoy it as fully as I should have. It was a little anticlimactic once it was over.

We lay down and again I wasn’t sure what to expect. Were we going to have more sex? She lay down and probably fell asleep, but I wasn’t able to. First the noise from the street was bothersome, and second I had a hot naked girl next to me. What to do? After a while I started caressing her and she woke up for another round. I asked for a bj and this time she asked me to put on a condom and I agreed. Seasoned Rio mongers are probably rolling their eyes, but as an Amsterdam veteran I was already surprised at the value I had gotten for my money, which I hadn’t even paid yet. I think a part of me was also worried that $100 couldn’t possibly be the real price and that asking for more services was going to drive up the real price that I was going to learn about in the morning. At the same time I was filled with relief that at least the whole thing hadn’t been a complete ripoff.

We did another round and I finished inside her. Again I got a kick out of her friend being nearby in the semi-darkness. I had the feeling that not going to sleep now would be pushing it, so I tried for a couple of hours to nod off, but I wasn’t able to. There was light, noise, a foxy naked stranger next to me, and I was still nervous enough that I wanted to keep an eye on my pants, which still had some money in them. There was no way I was going to get a minute of sleep, and the next day was my first day in Rio. I didn’t want to be completely trashed for it.

I woke her up to tell her I was leaving and I gave her R 200, which was more than $100 since the exchange rate was about 1.7 to the dollar. She seemed happy. Up until the very end I had been anxious that something would go wrong. Even at the last minute I worried that I might find that there had been some “misunderstanding” about the price. Now that the whole thing was wrapped up and I realized I had pretty much gotten all the sex I expected and none of the things I feared had happened I started to relax and to see the situation from her point of view. Now I saw that I was a stranger in her apartment and she had no way of knowing that I wouldn’t leave without paying or otherwise behave badly. Now I saw her as a nice girl who I had just spent much of the night with and who had trusted me. Now I started to like her. It must have been about 5 AM. It was still dark, but the sky was dark blue rather than black. She told me that I mustn’t walk home because it was too dangerous. She either called a taxi for me or she had the doorman get one for me, I just remember waiting inside the doorway downstairs until there was a car and it was safe for me to go out.

Catalyst
06-20-06, 03:08
Gentlemen. I have written up some of my past experiences from several years ago. Here is a report on my first ever visit to Rio. It might not be helpful to mongers who want to know the current conditions on the ground, but it might give some interesting perspective on what has changed and what has stayed the same, or it might just have some entertaining stories in it.

If you like it let me know. I have a couple of other old reports on Rio that I can post if you are interested in the past.

Writing this stuff up is fun. It brings back memories. In addition to racking my brains I looked up credit card receipts, ATM withdrawals on bank statements, and boarding passes to piece together this narrative. I’ve recaptured a lot of memories that had been lost, and each time a memory of a girl returns it is almost like scoring her all over again. I’ve also learned from past mistakes and successes. I did this as much for myself as for my readers and I recommend to others to do this. I hope you like it.

(Jackson: Please feel free to move this report if you think it belongs in a different section.)

Bubba Boy
06-20-06, 03:34
I liked the report, I cringed at some of the rookie mistakes, maybe because it reminded me a little of my first visit. Your reports are well written and most welcome, if you have some more reports please post, I for one would enjoy reading them.

Ibiza007
06-20-06, 05:25
Went to centro today with my friend FullThrottle and Mr. F. Just a short note, whiskeria Aquarius, located on Rua Arca, has a good deal in the afternoon, before 4pm. 15 min R$20 with a girl named Giovana, 97 lbs, used to work centaurus, and the rooms are nicer than 4x4 and the showers are better as well, new sheet for each person , with real double beds. Very nice room,

It is my second time there, 20 min =R$30 .

So, if anyone can show me another place, in Rio, where you can have sex with a nice girl, in a clean room, with a real shower, with hot water(no wiring exposed in the shower!), and clean towels and sheets, for about $8.00 usd , I am game to go there tomorrow,

Aquarius is the best deal in Rio for $R20, not a bit scary , like VM, in fact it is a real terma, with a lounge and a bar, really not a dump at all. 2 agua and a beer R$10.00

More on the centro excursion from FT in the future.

IBZ

RonnyRon
06-20-06, 06:19
Now that's what I'm talking about. Excellent reports by both ibiza007 & Catalyst! Thanks for saving the forum. All this 3rd party HIV BS and rumor about girls from the termas working in VM is just that Bull$hit. Don't it make you wonder why the guy who reported on the rumor about the termas girl working in VM didn't check it for himself, since he reported he was there earlier this very month? Took the time to report about the sand! NO photos of any women, but that high tide was real important. Keldson tell us about your trip! I'm all ears.

RonnyRon

Full Throttle
06-20-06, 16:03
Centro Tour
As stated, Ibiza, a buddy and I trapsed through downtown on Monday. It was a beautiful day on the beach and downtown. 75 degrees and perfectly sunny. Why is there a low season?

After a chopps at Meia Petaca around noon (2 very hot girls present, offered 200R for the entire afternoon, no counter offer), we took the express Metro bus to the S. Campos Metro station, where we connected to the subway. Simple and seamless, 2.25R total for the transfer.

We basically went to three types of establishments: Cat-houses, Termas and Massage Parlors. All generated some interest, and most offer some excellent bargains.

1. Cat Houses

Buenos Aires 85
3 stories of terma separated by a skinny spiral staircase.
Roughly 1R per minute

If you've ever been to the houses in Frankfurt, Germany, this would remind you of them. Girls seem to have squatting rights on each floor and, just like in Germany, the girls darkened as you ascended. Some okay girls, but quite crowded. My theory was that if a fire broke out, I was simply going to grab a girl and get one last BJ, as none of us would make it down the tiny spiral staircase to safety. No elegance, but, in a pinch, it would serve the purpose.


Tatydjeurmassagem
R. Do Ouvidor 130/ 707
90R/hour
A horrible little place with lots of girls. Most mediocre. The price sucked and the room stunk of smoke. Yuck!!

2. Massage Places

We went to two in the same GIANT building:

House of Massagen
Rio Branco 156, rm. 2328
2533 9279
60R/30m, 80R/hr
There were 4 girls working. All seemed to have good personalities. The facility is clean and welcoming, although a bit tight. Similar to the clinicas in Sao Paulo, except smaller.

Ibiza disappeared with Jessica, who may have been the prettiest girl I saw all day, inside or outside. I spoke with Sheron who was also the receptionist. She seemed very nice, but I didn't have much time left and the dozen Skols from the night before were dampening my enthusiasm and causing some unpredictability in the bowels, so, lucky for all present, I passed.

River Center Masagen
Rio Branco 156, rm. 3320
65/30m, 85/hr
4 girls, 2 cute, 1 doable, 1 not
Professional massage credentials were posted. Nice little rooms with beds and massage tables. My buddy took a girl here. Nice massage but a CBJ, which we've outgrown.
Nicer facility than above, but both good.

3. Termas

While some cathouses I've been to call themselves termas, they aren't. A terma must have some class to it. A nice, clean bathroom facility, a sauna and a relaxing common area are required. The following downtown facilities qualify:


Cancun
R da Carmo 64
2 blocks west of Buenos Aires
30R entrance (5 beers), 140/40m, 170/1hr. Entrance waived if in cabin by 17:00. So, you could have 5 beers and a 40 minute session for 140R, if you're early. In terms of a relaxed environment, I liked the atmosphere better than 4X4. In fact, it is quite similar to L’Uomos. Several girls were already there, and several others were reported to be "in makeup."

Terma 21
R.da Coma 21
1 block west of Buenos Aires
20R entrance (3 beers), 90R/30m, 110R/40m, 140R/1hr
Early when we visited so contractors were present but few girls. The facility did not seem as nice as Cancun, and the prices are not much different if you are there early. 130 all-in vs. 140 at Cancun, and you get 2 more beers at Cancun. Later in the day, 130 vs. 170 might make sense for some.


Aquarius
R. Acre 61
East on R. Miguel Cuoto, then right on Acre
Before 1600: 10R entrance (3 beers), 30R/20m, 50R/30min
Prices after 1600: Above plus 20R, I think.
4-6 girls early, 1 very cute, 2 doable, 2-3 taking up space. The girl Ibiza described was quite cute and apparently offered a tremendous service.
There might be some confusion with his post. In addition to the 30R/20 minutes, I think they were offering a 20R/10 minutes or something like that.

Anyway, the club is nice and clean with a co-ed bathroom and shower facility. I didn't see any robes, which bummed me out, but I'm sure there are. For a nice touch, they cycled between a really horrible soap opera and French porn on the TV. In honor of the World Cup, when the porn star entered the back door, we stood up and exclaimed, "GOOOOOOOOAAAAAAALLLLLLLL!!!!!!" The girls thought that was funny, and offered to have sex with us (for the prices mentioned above).

Overall, I can see spending considerably more time downtown than I have in the past, especially in the winter. In the day, it feels perfectly safe, the hustle and bustle is entertaining, restaurants and shops are cheaper, and there are a different class of beauties to look at.

FT

El Austriaco
06-20-06, 21:01
While some cathouses I've been to call themselves termas, they aren't. A terma must have some class to it. A nice, clean bathroom facility, a sauna and a relaxing common area are required.
FT
No. In Brazilian Portuguese, "termas" means "*****house", plain and simple. That the places most gringos frequent and most frequently document here are on the high end of things (with additional facilities, such as saunas etc. etc.) does not change the fact that nobody would go for them just for the saunas and bar area... they go for the whoring. Alternatively, they also call themselves "centro de lazer" or "casa de lazer" (literally, recreational centers or houses). All just euphemistic terms for a *****house, nothing more and nothing less.

Would be interesting to see what they are called in different parts of the world. I´ll do my part. In Mexico, they are often referred to as "centro nocturno" or "casa de citas". Where I live, "masajes" (of course) or even "peluquerias" (hair stylists) are worth checking out. In Malaysia, they call them "health centers" (go figure). I was actually wondering whether I should submit my bill for "health services rendered" to my travel insurance company for reimbursement. In Thailand, I will always remember the one-of-a-kind "Green Restaurant and Karaoke Bar" in An Yang (sp?). It was neither green, a restaurant, or a karaoke bar (except for the girls to sing between strip shows). I once heard that in Laos, the key term was "coffee shop" :)

EA

El Austriaco
06-20-06, 21:07
So what do you think? Is Brazil a good choice for a guy who wants to have daytime activities and try his luck with non-pros? I speak Spanish and no Portuguese, been to most spanish speaking countries.
You say "daytime activities"... like P4P? Or other more mainstream things? Either way, Rio would be a good choice for you.

If you don't speak Portuguese, I wouldn't waste my time with non-pros in Brazil. Colombia would be a better choice for you, IMHO. Of the places I know, both Cartagena and Barranquilla would be very good options (though Barranquilla has little daytime activities).

While knowing Spanish is better than nothing in terms of understanding Brazilian Portuguese, they are actually quite different on all levels, especially pronunciation. And once you're out of Copacabana and Ipanema, you will be suprised how few people speak anything but Portuguese... including English.

EA

El Austriaco
06-20-06, 21:11
Buenos Aires 85
3 stories of terma separated by a skinny spiral staircase.
Roughly 1R per minute
My theory was that if a fire broke out, I was simply going to grab a girl and get one last BJ, as none of us would make it down the tiny spiral staircase to safety.

FT
I hereby advise you that in the event that one day, you read in O Globo that a fire broke out in downtown Rio killing 30 hookers and a few hundred mongers, and afterwards, I never ever post on ISG again, everyone here may safely assume that I was among the victims of God's wrath coming down on this cathedral of cheap-bastard mongerdom. Every time I go there, it´s like a potential trip into purgatory.

So you know :)

EA

Full Throttle
06-20-06, 21:31
No. In Brazilian Portuguese, "terma" means "*****house", plain and simple. ...

EA

Yes, but, for the purposes of meaningful reviews, I have my own criteria.

In Guadalajara, MX, the esteticas are the *****houses, but, in most other cities in Mexico, you only get haircuts there. In Chile, they call them saunas, but, aside from the yellow buses, I've never seen a sauna in Chile. In Sao Paulo, they differentiate between "nocturnal houses" and termas. Doesn't terma technically mean spa? That's what it says in the intro section of another board. I know there's a dive place on R. Augusta that calls itself a terma because they have a sauna and a masseuse.

FT

El Austriaco
06-20-06, 21:43
Doesn't terma technically mean spa? That's what it says in the intro section of another board. I know there's a dive place on R. Augusta that calls itself a terma because they have a sauna and a masseuse.

FT
Literally, technically, and originally yes, but in Brazil, "termas" has just come to mean "*****house", "cathouse", whatever other term you may wanna use for it... brothel, whatever. It´s just the term of choice, rather than the more formal "prostibulo". At BA 85, what does the place on the second floor call itself? Yes, Termas BA 85. All the similar cheap places I've been to in Rio call themselves either termas or something similar. A while ago, I made a post on them. Every Brazilian knows what it means... and it's not a sauna.

That´s what I was trying to point out... that in many countries, they use very creative terms to describe one and the same thing. I guess the Brazilian "termas" is based on the concept of the old Roman "terme"... literally, "bathhouses" and "saunas" (which were much more than just that, too). Just because I am thinking about San Francisco right now, by pure coincidence, they had the infamous "bathhouses" there still back in the 70s, and once again, they were just anything but bathhouses.

EA

Tricktracy
06-20-06, 22:13
Do not use Samara from Karla Models because she not worth is. First she tried to get more reals out of me insted of the 20 for the cab, then told me no oral!! I threw her stank ass out and this what this funky ***** looks like, so beware.http://www.karlamodels.net/samara/fotos.htm

Lorenzo
06-20-06, 23:23
In Malaysia, they call them "health center" (go figure).
EA
Actually, you'll see them called that in many parts of the USA. Since they're officially massage parlors, I guess the health part comes from how healthy you'll feel after getting an invigorating massage (wink, wink).

In my Harper Collins Portuguese Dictionary, 'termas' is translated as 'bathhouse,' which was probably the original meaning. It undoubtedly comes from 'termal.' But you're right; today it always means *****house.

This discussion about what 'houses' are called in different parts of the world is very interesting. I think their presenting themselves as massage parlors is pretty much universal. 'Massage' is usually a euphemism for sex, much to the chagrin of those who provide legitimate, non-sexual massages, like Wat Po temple in Bangkok.

'Houses' often front as barber shops (El Salvador) or beauty parlors (Malaysian Borneo) in many parts of the world. They often have a barber pole and chairs, so I guess they do both. The word 'club' or 'clube' in Spanish-speaking countries (e.g., Guatemala) is widespread. Also 'estetica,' 'salon,' as has been pointed out. And of course the FKK clubs in Germany; the word 'culture,' believe it or not, is sometimes a tipoff. If anybody can think of other euphemisms, please post, as will I if any more come to mind.

Lorenzo

El Austriaco
06-21-06, 00:42
Another term I've seen in use in Brazil is "centro de relax", with relax being another euphemism for sex (just like "programa"). So when your favorite GDP asks you what you've been doing without her and you just say "somente relaxando" as in "just hanging out", with the double meaning of relax, you might not even be that far off the mark :). Relaxar = to relax, fazer relax = to have a session (like in "vamos fazer relax"). I always thought that was cute.

I learned that one time at MV 30 in Centro. The price list said that there was no entrance fee with a relax. So as innocent as I am, I asked how long I had to hang out to be waived the entrance fee. That's when they explained to me the other meaning of "relax" in Brazil.

On another amusing note: anyone ever see the guys selling the yellow plush bears called "Puff" in places like Meia Pataca? I always have to smile, because in German (especially Austrian German), Puff is the preferred slang term for "*****house". More formally, we would call them Bordell or sometimes Nachtklub (night club). Animierklub or Animierlokal are other terms used throughout the German-speaking world. So an "Animierdame" is anything but a Club Med-style animator. Boy, the potential for crosscultural misunderstandings :)

EA

King Of Crunk
06-21-06, 02:49
Hey,

Since we are on the topic of Termas, does anyone know anything about Termas Ancora Do Recreio? The only information I could translate after speaking to a receptionist was that they where located after Barra, only open Monday - Friday, and total cost for a 45 minute session was around 250 reals. I could be wrong on the price, but anyways here is the website I also think they work as a escort agency as well but I could be wrong www.ancoradorecreio.com.br

Bravo
06-21-06, 02:59
Do not use Samara from Karla Models because she not worth is. First she tried to get more reals out of me insted of the 20 for the cab, then told me no oral!! I threw her stank ass out and this what this funky ***** looks like, so beware.http://www.karlamodels.net/samara/fotos.htm


Can you give a little more information. I honestly dont think she was trying to rip you off, if you are staying in Copa, then the taxi charge for Scort Show is around 40R (50R if you call Karla Models).

When you say she wouldnt do oral, do you mean she wouldnt let you cum in her mouth or she wouldnt suck your dick at all?

Sprite13
06-21-06, 03:12
Great reports Catalyst and Full Throttle.

Catalyst, the motel you mention in one of your reports called Shalimar for 70Reais with swimming pool, is this place still operating? Can anyone recommend a good motel in Rio with those nice swimming pools and their rates?

Thanks.

Helpmann
06-21-06, 05:11
Do not use Samara from Karla Models because she not worth is. First she tried to get more reals out of me insted of the 20 for the cab, then told me no oral!! I threw her stank ass out and this what this funky ***** looks like, so beware.http://www.karlamodels.net/samara/fotos.htm
ARE YOU SERIOUS!?!?!?!?!

I banged Samara 2 weeks ago and she was fine:
Oral: YES
Video: YES
Photos: YES
Anal: Well, she let me try to push in, but I gave up when I saw blood.

The cab from Flamengo (Scortshow) to Copa is R$30. Don't tell me you fought over US$5.00???

I guess you just don't know how to sweet talk them like I do. Oh yeah, she also gave me her cell number (how do you like them apples.)

-Helpmann :)

Tricktracy
06-21-06, 12:17
Can you give a little more information. I honestly dont think she was trying to rip you off, if you are staying in Copa, then the taxi charge for Scort Show is around 40R (50R if you call Karla Models).

When you say she wouldnt do oral, do you mean she wouldnt let you cum in her mouth or she wouldnt suck your dick at all?Would not suck it at all. Maybe she liked you guys and not me, that could be it. I'm just saying that the last time I used a girl from Karlamodels there was no problems, with the taxi, or the sex act. I'm just telling what happen to me.

Tricktracy
06-21-06, 12:33
ARE YOU SERIOUS!?!?!?!?!

I banged Samara 2 weeks ago and she was fine:
Oral: YES
Video: YES
Photos: YES
Anal: Well, she let me try to push in, but I gave up when I saw blood.

The cab from Flamengo (Scortshow) to Copa is R$30. Don't tell me you fought over US$5.00???

I guess you just don't know how to sweet talk them like I do. Oh yeah, she also gave me her cell number (how do you like them apples.)

-Helpmann :)Personally, if you like that type of woman, that your business. Looks like you got caught up emotionally with a working girl to be defending her like that. I'm just making a report so maybe other members that can take these women for what they are can enjoy themselfs. Maybe you need to go to a correspondence dating site if you want a Brazillian woman, a working girl from Karlamodels is not the way to go.

Tricksta
06-21-06, 18:05
I will be in Rio soon and for the first time want to try out Karla Models / Scortshow (for late morning or early afternoon action). So I was hoping that one or two of you experts / regular patrons of this agency (agencies) could perhaps give me your ranking of the top 2 / 3 girls there. I know that beauty is in the eye of the beholder -- and most of the girls on the website look terrific to me (all with fabulosas bundas) -- so just give me your ranking based on the overall quality of your experiences.

Catalyst
06-22-06, 03:55
Sunday was dreary. If I had expected to be alone I wouldn’t have minded and I would have gone to do some sightseeing. But it was a downer to be alone after planning on a great day with Lia. If we had connected maybe I would have been disappointed; maybe she wouldn’t have been interested in me and I would have been even more depressed, or maybe we would have connected and I would now be one of those down and out broke I used to have a life until I met this girl stories.

I walked from my hotel down Ipanema thinking what a nice day I could have had when I continued on to Copacabana and another strange coincidence happened. Sitting at an outdoor café in front of me were the guys who I had met briefly at L’Uomo on my first trip and who had recommended Centaurus to me. I said hello and told them how they had changed my life. This was the first time they had been back in Rio since that earlier trip they had been on. I asked them if they were going to go to Centaurus on Monday or afterwards, thinking that they could give a message to Lia for me, but unfortunately they weren’t. (Seems like somebody up there really wanted to jerk me around about Lia.) So now my Centaurus experienced was framed by these guys the way my entire Rio experience was framed by that girl from Help.

Days in Rio are precious and it was frustrating and depressing for one to be not just wasted but to actually be a day of unhappiness. And I was particularly sad that I might have missed a connection that could have been sustained after leaving. But after time passed I began thinking of all the good things that happened on that trip and the one bad day no longer stood out.

Catalyst
06-22-06, 03:56
Lia

Before going to Centaurus I went to an Internet café and created an email address for Lia so we could communicate after I left Rio. When I arrived in Centaurus on this my last night I saw her and went to sit with her. I asked her what she thought of what had happened the night before with Dani and she took Dani’s side on everything. We had a short conversation where I made all the points that I had made with Dani and then we agreed to disagree and also to fuck each others’ brains out. I also added the point that a girl from another terma had gone with me to a motel for the whole day for only 300 and was very happy to spend all that time with me. Lia said that not all girls have that attitude and that this kind of misunderstanding occurs easily. She said that she always prefers that business be strictly defined by time and price and that even then she avoids grey area encounters where there might be an expectation of more than just business. She said that on my last visit when I thought we had agreed to go to a motel she made it completely clear up front that it was going to be 100 reals per girl per hour and that when we didn’t make a clear and final confirmation of the plan she didn’t show up because it hadn’t been specifically decided on and because she really didn’t want to do it anyway. OK, but at least this night we had great sex. It was maybe my best session with her and I seemed to get more of a real emotional reaction from her this time than any other.

Afterwards I asked if she wanted to meet me the next day, which was Sunday. Centaurus was closed and it was my last day in Rio; I didn’t want to spend it alone. She got exasperated and said that she does this all day six days a week. Sunday is the only day she gets to rest. I said ok so you don’t want to see me at all? No, she said she was happy to see me, she just didn’t want to go to a hotel and have more sex. When it’s her day off she wants to do something relaxing like go to the beach. I said I would like that even more, so we decided to meet at Ipanema the next day, though we didn’t set an exact time or place yet. I didn’t want to be pushy about it, but I thought she was interested, and I thought we would fix the details before leaving that night. I was definitely excited about it. I assumed we would exchange numbers and email and communicate after I left the country.

Later I passed by her and she stopped me and told me that she was leaving at “days” tonight. Well, that’s what it sounded like, anyway. It reminded me of “dos” in Spanish, which means 2, so it sounded like she was leaving at 2 when Centaurus closed. I wasn’t sure why this message merited pulling me aside.

Name?, looks?, attitude? (Couldn’t have been too good or too bad.)

I’m pretty sure I had another session around now, but I can’t remember who with. When I got home I wrote down a record of who I had gone to the room with on this trip, but I lost it, so I am writing this from memory. After I was done I was sitting down in the main room when Lia came up to me and said “Eu vou embora”. I had no idea what that meant. She said it again insistently and I just smiled stupidly. Then she walked off. Shortly afterwards I couldn’t find her and I was getting nervous about not having made exact arrangements for the next day.

Andrease

I bumped into Andrease and realized that I should have a last session with her. My tentative plans with Lia reminded me of when Andrease had invited me to the beach at the end of my last trip. I asked her if she had meant then that we would go to the beach and then to a motel, or did she just want to go to the beach and hang out with me without any sex because we were friends. She said it was the latter. I was surprised and delighted to hear that and was now in a hurry to get her into a room and show my affection.

As I was waiting for Andrease to get the key a nice girl with long curly red hair who I sadly realized I would never get to passed by and said “you’re going to the room again!” I smiled and realized that this would be my third session tonight (this is how I know that there was a third girl in there somewhere that night). I was pretty worn out and I gave poor Andrease a real workout before I finished inside her. But it was great. We walked downstairs together and I was walking on air as we went through the swinging doors to the main area. And then I was confronted with the most horrible sight I could imagine ...

It was empty! The music was off. The lights were off. The tables were being cleaned. It was closed!! What was happening? It was midnight, Andrease explained to me. The club closed at midnight every Saturday, two hours earlier than every other day. I felt like someone who had just awakened from a coma to find that he had missed ten years of his life. Then where was Lia?! Where do I find her? I have to tell her where we are going to meet the next day! We went to the dressing room and it was still full of girls changing. But Lia wasn’t there. We went to the reception and someone said that Lia had left at ten o’clock! (Yes you idiot. Learn Portuguese! “Days” - spelt “dez” - means ten! She said she was leaving at ten. And “Eu vou embora” means “I’m leaving now, you blockhead, and if you don’t even understand what this means you don’t get to see me tomorrow.”) I went back to the dressing room to ask Andrease another question and she was still nice, but I saw she was changing in a hurry and realized that she wanted to get home so she could get some sleep and then relax on her one day off before going back to her six day work week at Centaurus plus being a law student. She understandably might not have wanted to take extra time to help me hook up with another girl who I had made a date with instead of with her.

Afterwards I realized that Lia’s Spanish speaking friend had probably been there and might have had Lia’s number. Maybe she would have given it to me or maybe she would at least have given Lia a message for me. If course Lia had given me her number on my previous trip, but when she didn’t show up for that meeting for a threeway in a motel with her Spanish friend I threw it away thinking I would never need it again.

The worst part of this screw up, I realized afterwards, was that Lia might not even have been all that interested in spending the day with me anyway. Meanwhile, Andrease very possibly was. Andrease had asked to spend time with me on my previous trip; she had invited me to spend the entire day at the beach with her. Andrease spoke good English, so I could have a real conversation with her and could really communicate with her from afar if we decided to keep in touch. I should have asked Andrease if she wanted to come to the beach with me. I should have set up an email address for Andrease. Instead I asked Andrease to find Lia – who wasn’t there anyway – so that I could extend the same invitation that Andrease extended to me, only instead of extending it to Andrease I would be extending it to Lia in front of Andrease. Andrease, if by some strange chance you are reading this, I’m sorry for being such a jerk.

I was depressed and I went to Help, though I didn’t think I was going to take a girl. Even if I were in the mood I was so worn out by a week in Rio that I might not have been able to perform. Inside I saw the girl with long curly red hair who had seen me waiting for a room in Centaurus and commented on how I had taken three girls. She smiled at me and I wondered if maybe I shouldn’t grab my last opportunity to check her off on my scorecard. But after waffling for a while it was too late; she was with someone else. Then it occurred to me that I could give her a message to give to Lia, I could write down the email address I had set up for her and maybe Lia would email me. But again I was too late. I looked for her and she was gone.

Then a strange coincidence happened. I ran into the friend of the girl I had taken on my first ever visit to Help on my first night ever in Rio, and the girl herself - the first girl I had ever been with in Rio - was there with her. It was nice to see her and she looked more beautiful than I had remembered. She also seemed even sweeter than I had remembered. Maybe I should have gone back for her after all. It was strange that the last girl I would talk to in Rio would be the first one I had talked to months earlier. Later I thought maybe I should have taken her for the night. There would have been a nice symmetry in spending the night with her at each end of my two trips and I might have had company the next day, but once again I was one step too slow and didn’t think of this in time. Or more likely I realized that I was spent anyway; one of the reasons I had hesitated with the red haired girl. When I left the club I saw her in front of me leaving with another guy and felt like that was for the best.

Catalyst
06-22-06, 03:57
Dani arrived at Bob’s soon after I did. Somehow Bob’s wasn’t the same as the buffet at the Copacabana, the site of my previous extra-terma encounter, so we went straight to the motel. Actually I would have been happy to take her somewhere nice, but since she was going to Sao Paulo later and it was already getting dark our time was limited. We got in a taxi and I wanted to go to Shalimar, where I had been with Leticia on my last trip. But the driver didn’t know where Shalimar was, so I told him to go to the Sheraton, which is right next to it. He and Dani both seemed to understand “Sheraton”, so I couldn’t figure out why we headed in the opposite direction towards Copacabana. At first I thought they were turning around or going to some tunnel that I didn’t know about, but when we came out on Avenida Atlantica headed in the wrong direction I started to complain. Turns out Sheraton means something else, though I never figured out exactly what, so we turned around after wasting 15-20 minutes and a handful of reals.

When we finally arrived the room we got was as luxurious as the one Leticia and I had been in, but different. This room was huge with a bed, whirlpool, and big windows. We had sex when we arrived and it was fine, but nothing special; less good than it had been in the terma. She wouldn’t let me finish in her mouth.

We talked for a while, and then ordered dinner. Turns out she had a 9 year old daughter (she was 23 herself). So having a sister in law school maybe didn’t mean that this was a normal upper middle class family. I had questions on my mind, but didn’t want to ask them and probably wouldn’t have gotten real answers anyway. What do you think about doing doubles sessions with your sister? What do you think about working? Who are your parents and what do they do? I think you have to invest more time with someone before you ask things like that.

I couldn’t always understand what she was saying. When I went to the motel with Leticia on my previous trip and couldn’t understand something she was saying I sometimes asked her to write it down on paper and that worked well. It is easier to understand something written than something spoken. So I asked Dani to do the same, but she laughed it off and said no. At the time I thought she was saying it was too geeky or just too much trouble, but afterwards I wondered if she knew how to write.

I suggested another round and she said no, she wanted to get going. OK, that wasn’t so great, but it had been kind of fun to do the one round at least. I asked how much I could give her. Perhaps it was a mistake not to just give her an amount that I thought was fair, and the first sign of trouble was when she smiled and said “in reals or in dollars?” At least I was alert enough to say “reals”. Her answer was ... “400”.

400 !!!

Ok 300. ...

300 !!!

I said no way. She said it is 100 per hour; that’s what she would make in Centaurus. I said no way. Even if you had four guys lined up waiting only for you there is no way you would be able to do them all in four hours. You would have to wait for the room to be free and you would have to spend time sitting with them afterwards in the main area. And you would have to have sex four times. You couldn’t say after one time that you don’t feel like it anymore. Well if we were in Centaurus you would also have to pay for the room. But I did pay for the room, and a taxi. I even bought you dinner. I missed work today, so I had to pay a 100 reals fine. You were going to miss work today whether you came here or not. (Did I mention that she didn’t speak English and I didn’t speak Portuguese?)

There is no way I was going to give her the same amount that I gave Leticia, who spent the whole day with me and I came in her mouth three times. There was a basic disconnect here. Leticia seemed to think (or at least faked it pretty well) that even though she was getting paid it was great fun to go with a foreigner to a nice restaurant and then to a motel. I assumed that Dani would have the same attitude, that I should pay her for the sex, but that otherwise we were just hanging out together. But she didn’t see it that way. For her the meter was running the entire time we were together. I don’t know whether it made the situation better or worse that I still hadn’t made a counteroffer. I was working out in my head what it should be. 300 was too much; that is what Leticia got. 100 was too little; that is for a one hour session at Centaurus (though often a better session than the one I got). 200 seemed about right. It was particularly awkward when the discussion, language hurdle and all, continued in the taxi on the way back to Ipanema. I wonder if the driver could tell that we weren’t a real Brazilian couple.

She had to drop into Centaurus briefly for some reason, and my hotel was not far, so we got dropped off right around the corner from the club. I said 200, that’s fair. She seemed content with it. I pulled out my money belt and started to count out 200 and she said don’t do that here where everyone can see. I was surprised at this burst of modesty 50 meters from the entrance to Centaurus, but I put the money out of sight, handed it to her discretely, and things seemed better between us.

Catalyst
06-22-06, 03:57
Lia, and
Dani

I think I spent most of the day on a sightseeing tour and arrived late at Centaurus. I remember that I did another session with Lia and her sister and that it was just as hot as the first. Afterwards Dani told me that she wasn’t going to be at Centaurus the next day because late in the evening she had to drive to Sao Paulo. I asked if she wanted to come with me to a motel beforehand and she said yes. We agreed to meet at Bob’s fast food restaurant by Ipanema/Arpoador the next day late in the afternoon.

If I went with another girl after that I don’t remember who. I remember being happy that I hadn’t spent too much money since now I was cashing traveler’s checks so it was more expensive and I didn’t have unlimited access to cash, so maybe I only did the one session that night.

Catalyst
06-22-06, 03:58
I remembered one lesson from my first trip, which was that it was important to explore a variety of places. One of the most highly praised places on the internet at that time was Terma Aeroporto, which coincidentally happened to be located next to the local airport. Well, it wasn’t all that close to the airport. At least going to the airport and looking for the street it was supposedly located on wasn’t a very successful strategy for finding it. Even with a map the search was pretty futile. After combing the area I had almost given up when I noticed a couple of roman-looking sculptures from afar and realized I had found it.

Inside it wasn’t bad, though it was no match for Centaurus and minutes after walking in I expected to have a good visit, but I doubted I would be back. Wandering the premises I saw a girl I recognized. It was Leticia who I had seen at L’Uomo on my last trip. This was a little awkward since after our last meeting at a motel I hadn’t called her, which she reminded me of in a friendly way. I felt obliged to go with her which wasn’t much of a conundrum anyway since she was again one of the best looking girls there, and there was one other girl with nice straight red hair down to her neck and a super hot figure who I hoped would do a doubles session with her. I pointed her out to Leticia (only she wasn’t Leticia anymore; now she was Larissa since she had changed clubs) and she said ok. She went over to her and pointed me out to her.

Everything seemed to be going according to plan, but then something seemed to go wrong. They were both supposed to come over to me, right? Well, no. Was I supposed to go over to them? I didn’t think so. So was this the price I was going to pay for not calling Leticia after spending the day in the motel with her?

Arranging two-girl sessions can be frustrating because one of the girls can get picked by someone else and then you have to wait for nearly an hour and hope that meanwhile the second girl doesn’t get picked. And now here was a new complication. I wondered how I had blown it with the only two girls in the whole place that I was interested in. I wandered around and somehow got into a conversation with Larissa who pointed out that I had been there for a while without picking a girl and asked me if I wanted to go to the room with her. I said yes, and I wanted a second girl to come with us too. She asked me why I didn’t like the girl I had originally pointed out to her. ... Huh? Well, it seems that when I first pointed out the other girl Larissa didn’t think I was asking for a two-girl session. She thought I was telling her that I wanted the other girl instead of her. Then she was confused when I didn’t go talk to the other girl.

Larissa (Leticia), looks 7, attitude 9, and
Camilla, looks 9, attitude 9

So we went and got Camilla. Good thing we did, because the session was great with lesbian action and all kinds of kissing and licking. At the end of it I came in Larissa’s mouth (only it was back to the half-closed mouth of when I first met her). Another small issue was that the beds in Aeroporto are very small, so there wasn’t much room to stretch out and be creative. But still it was great.

Afterwards the three of us sat together in a semi-private area near the reception. This was about the same as being in a bed together after sex, holding each other and occasionally making out. Neither of them spoke any English, so the conversation was limited, but conversation wasn’t all that necessary. After maybe an hour of kissing, snuggling, and caressing, we went for another round, which was every bit as good as the first. And afterwards we sat together again for perhaps another hour. So I spent four or five hours with two girls the entire time (not counting the slow startup), making out and having wild sex with them twice. All for 480 reals.

A potential disaster struck that evening. When I returned to the hotel my wallet was missing. I thought I might have left it in the locker and I went through a whole song and dance looking up the word for wallet in Portuguese, calling the club (too late, it was closed), calling the next day, and being told it wasn’t there. I think it’s more likely that I left it in the taxi when I took it out to pay since if I hadn’t had it then I probably would have noticed it missing. I didn’t have much money in it, but it had my only cash card! Fortunately, and atypically, I had a lot of traveler’s checks with me and the hotel would cash them for me at a rate that was not favorable but not unfair either. If there is a positive memory of this incident it is that I had my head so far in the clouds that I didn’t even pay attention to my wallet. Quite a change from when I first arrived in Rio a few months earlier.

Catalyst
06-22-06, 04:00
At some point after I left or the next day it occurred to me how hot it might actually be to go with Lia and her sister, both because they were sisters and because her sister was as hot as she was, not to mention younger. I went sightseeing all day and got back after dark. When I got to Centaurus it was full and all the girls I knew were there, including Lia and her sister, Dani.

Lia, and
Dani, looks 10, attitude 10

I told Lia that now I wanted to see both of them together. She got Dani and left me alone with her for a short while to get to know her. Then we reserved a room and sat together until it was ready, but with no three way make-out. In the room I was surprised at how hot it was. They both went down on me at the same time. They wouldn’t kiss each other or go down on each other, but I could hold them both close and make out with one while I was on top of the other. Afterwards I spent a lot of time sitting with each of them talking and even kissing some, though there was much less of this with any of the Centaurus girls than there was at L’Uomo.

Name? Looks 8, attitude 10

I had been through my favorites from last time so I milled about looking for new material. As I stood in the middle of the dance floor I noticed a nice blow-dry blonde girl dancing next to me. She had dark bronze skin that might have been a very deep tan, but wasn’t dark enough to be mulatto. Her skin didn’t seem to match her hair, but she still looked very nice. We smiled at each other and sat down on the bench seats nearby. She looked at me and gave me a great long kiss and I said “I love you!” which made her smile. There was a nice wait for the room and during the wait and when it was over she had a great attitude. I came all over her tits and she liked it.

Catalyst
06-22-06, 04:02
I arrived in Rio on the same late Sunday afternoon flight that had brought me here on my first trip a few months before. Having fantasized about three way sessions incessantly during the intervening months and reflected on their cost efficiency I decided to skip Help that night and save myself for Centaurus the next day. On Monday the wait until 4:00 was filled with anticipation. I got there 5 or 10 minutes early and found a few guys already there waiting to be let in.

After I showered (which the other guys who were waiting when I arrived chose not to do) I went upstairs and recognized Lia. It was strange suddenly seeing someone who I had had an intense encounter with and then not seen or heard from for months. At first glance I wasn’t even sure it was her. We caught up and then got down to business. I told her I wanted to do a doubles session. A few minutes later she came back with a girl and said it was her younger sister. She smiled and told me to look at the resemblance, which was definitely there. She said they would do me at the same time, although she wouldn’t do lesbian with her sister. Unfortunately that was a deal breaker, at least for now.

Lia, looks 10, attitude 10, and
Susanna, looks 10, attitude 6.

Suzanna was there so I decided to do a replay of my last session on my last visit. During the intervening time I had though out everything that I wanted to do with two Rio girls once I got them together. Unfortunately they weren’t as cooperative as I had remembered or hoped. The three way make-out in the main room was fine. In the room several things that I wanted to do, including cim, were not available. I had thought that Suzanna had warmed up slightly the second time I saw her and that she would be even better this time, but there was no further improvement; she was still disinterested. I wasn’t sure if it was because I had been away for so long and now the developing a relationship meter had been reset, or maybe she would just never warm up to me all that much. In any case I wasn’t interested in investing in more sessions with her after this one to find out. I was still wild about Lia, though.

Christiana was there too and she sat with me for a while and we caught up. It was really nice to see her, though it was also a little awkward since in spite of being really nice she wasn’t one of the supermodels and I didn’t want to go with her, at least not before trying the supermodels. Before she left she asked me if she could get something to eat (e.g. would I pay for it) and of course I said yes, but she asked in a nervous way that made me feel bad for her. I had the impression that it was expensive for her but she felt bad about asking me to pay for it for her. She told me that since the last time I had seen her she had broken up with her boyfriend that she had had a baby with (and who didn’t know what she did for a living), so I was sad about that too. I didn’t have the impression at all then or ever that she told me any of these things to get sympathy.

Andrease was there too and she was glad to see me. I asked her if she wanted to go with me and she said yes, and before I could even bring it up she asked me if I wanted her to get another girl. She said she knew I liked going with two girls. She told me that unfortunately Beatrice had not been around for a few weeks and was maybe no longer working there. She also remembered the other girl that had joined us for a doubles session on that trip, though I was hoping to find someone with a warmer attitude than that girl had. I was surprised and flattered that after months of boinking several other guys six days a week she still remembered all the details of what we had done together. It was like going back to my favorite hotel and finding the room made up just the way I like. I had seen a short skinny girl with frizzy blonde hair covering her shoulders who wasn’t bad and I asked Andrease if she knew this girl and would like going with her. I had to point her out, but when I did Andrease lit up with a smile and said “Yes! She is my friend!”

Andrease, looks 10, attitude 10, and
Name (Maria)?, looks 7, attitude 10.

The second girl was not quite at the supermodel level of Andrease, Lia, or Suzanna. She was skinny and flat-chested, but she had a nice face and hair and a great attitude. The three-way make-out in the main area was nice and in the room they went down on each other, kissed wildly, did double blow jobs, and let me finish in their mouths. This is what I had been waiting for.

Name?, looks 8, attitude 10

Back in the main room I was feeling worn out, but there were so many beautiful girls and I was thinking about how I was going to get to them all in just one week. There was a nice short girl with black hair who was on my to do list who spoke to me, but having just been with Andrease and her friend I wasn’t ready yet. Later I looked for her, but she was with someone else. A nice voluptuous girl with long fluffy black hair I had had my eye on sat near me. I moved over to her and said hello. She immediately said “voce quer fazer amor comigo?” I said “claro!” and she jumped and squealed like she had just won at bingo and started kissing me. We had a great time in the room and that finished me for the evening, though I hung around just to enjoy the scenery. The black haired girl saw me and approached me again, but again I had to tell her the timing was bad. Music started playing and I was surprised to see the nice girl that I had just been in the room with was up on stage with a microphone singing like a professional. I thought I was in paradise. And I was.

Catalyst
06-22-06, 04:04
Having received positive commentary I now submit for your discerning reactions the second of three classic Rio reports.

(Sprite 13: Yes, I believe Shalimar is still operating. I think it was next to a motel that I went to recently. I'm sure they now charge much more than 70 reals for a room with a pool, however, because of the exchange rate and because even in dollars or euros things are generally more expensive now. )

Helpmann
06-22-06, 04:33
Personally, if you like that type of woman, that your business. Looks like you got caught up emotionally with a working girl to be defending her like that. I'm just making a report so maybe other members that can take these women for what they are can enjoy themselfs. Maybe you need to go to a correspondence dating site if you want a Brazillian woman, a working girl from Karlamodels is not the way to go.
Please... its all about having a good time to ensure good service, nothing more. You have some fun, you get a number, then you move on to the next girl...

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=473554&postcount=1271

-Helpmann :)

Cachorro
06-22-06, 12:18
I will be in Rio soon and for the first time want to try out Karla Models / Scortshow (for late morning or early afternoon action). So I was hoping that one or two of you experts / regular patrons of this agency (agencies) could perhaps give me your ranking of the top 2 / 3 girls there. I know that beauty is in the eye of the beholder -- and most of the girls on the website look terrific to me (all with fabulosas bundas) -- so just give me your ranking based on the overall quality of your experiences.
You're better off choosing from their photo book. I have seen the book and most of the girls are not very pretty, once you can see the face.

If you want to see Scort's photo book, you can go to the corner of Praia do Flamengo and Barao do Flamengo and they'll bring it down to you (along with any stray girls who are too new to have photos, or girls who are just hanging around the agency).

There is also a short-time motel right on the same street (a bit less than one block back from the beach along Barao do Flamengo.

Have a look on gpguia dot net for up to date review of these agenices (and also check the Rio - Escorts thread on here).

Mila at Scortshow is a pretty good looker. It's been a good few months since I've seen the book, so maybe you can let us know if any of the new girls are hot.

Freddy5440
06-23-06, 05:42
I will be in Rio for a weekend shortly.I have read that Centaurus is closed Sunday. Are all the termas closed om Sunday? If they are where do we get laid? What are the options on Sunday?

Phish
06-23-06, 15:00
Catalyst: After reading your detailed reports it reminded me of my Trip to Brazil a couple of years ago. Its a must visit for every monger, its like you died and went to pussy heaven.

After mongering aaround the globe I can definitly say that Brazilian women fuck you the best.. They are the best GFE i have had so far. bankok is creap but more money mongers and service is spotty.

Some how I noticed that Brazilian women do it for money and LOVE it. I spend 1 week , half a block from HELP and fucked everyhting that I could get my hands on. In fact I even entended my trip by a week claiming that my ait tickets got messed up... pussy was so good.

How I wish I could go back.... Catalyst you re-lived my memories.

Ibiza007
06-23-06, 15:50
Quick report.

I went yesterday to watch the Brasil - Japan game, the location was , URCA HILL, which is the middle point for Sugar Loaf, it is where the first cable car stops.

There are two clubs up there, and I watched the game on a 15' x 15' big screen with 1500 screaming fans. The noise was deafening, I have been to many events in the USA in indoor stadiums, and these 1500 people made more noise than any 10,000 seat stadium.

The noise was beyond sound, it was just a buzz it was so loud.

The place has ampitheater seating , and is tiered like a half circle, with a stage in front.

Anyway, of course before the match there was a DJ, getting the crowd pumped, then again at halftime and then again all night. A huge party Brasilian style.

100's of cute girls dancing the night away.

Entrance R$35.00

If you are here during the day of the match, tyr to go , it is unreal.

They only sell 1500 tickets, so buy as early as possible.

IBZ

The Watcher
06-23-06, 19:17
Great reports. I truly enjoyed reading them. I look forward to your next installment.

Wanderer1000
06-23-06, 20:28
I´ve been here about a week and I´ve done all my mongering at Luomo´s and Monte Carlo. They are each R250 for 40 minutes. Both have specials going on that cut the prices a little.

I was on the Monte Carlo e-mail list, and I printed out their special during the World Cup. Through July 9th, you can get the R250 at R200 on any day that Brazil is not playing. You have to bring a copy of the e-mail each visit to get the discount. I made quite a few more copies yesterday. The lady at the desk said a lot of guys have been using it.

Luomo´s has a Monday through Friday special that gets you the R250 at R225 if you arrive by 7pm. They have a nice buffet every evening, so if you have your dinner there, it probably works out equal with Monte Carlo.

If you want a helpful guy that speaks good English for any travel in Brazil, I´ve found Wagner Godoy at Moving Exchange very helpful. They are located a block back from Mabs. He lived in the U.S. for awhile, and he goes out of his way to be helpful and answer all your questions.

I used Kenn again for the third time. I have found him to be very reliable and helpful. I´ve had a few problems with the electricity, and he is always right on the problem.

Ee2002
06-24-06, 02:12
I will be in Rio for a weekend shortly.I have read that Centaurus is closed Sunday. Are all the termas closed om Sunday? If they are where do we get laid? What are the options on Sunday?


Luomos, Monte Carlo and Solarium are open on Sundays.You can also go to Meia Pataca and/or the beach right across from it.For night action all the Lido clubs by Prado Jr are open as well as Help, Terraco restaurant(in front of Help) and the Balcony.

Catalyst
06-24-06, 04:29
I would have written to Susanna, but when I looked at the note she had given me the address was illegible. I felt sad for her again. It was written in a child’s scrawl and some of the numbers were just unidentifiable shapes. She could barely write. She probably didn’t have a lot of options in life. She was never going to get any letter from the guy the liked who had acted like he thought she was nice. She would probably figure he had immediately forgotten her when he returned home. She had my email address, but maybe didn’t even understand what an email address was and probably didn't have internet access even if she did. She was pretty, but I don’t think she had a 10 year terma career ahead of her that was going to provide her with a nest egg. If I ever saw her again I was going to be sure to tell her I wanted to write and to get her to dictate her address to me so I could write it down properly.

I got my voice back before leaving, but on the plane on the way home I went to the bathroom and there was a small yellow green stain in my underwear. I squeezed my dick and some fluid that was like pus oozed out. I wondered with dread what it might be and what girls I might have infected with something. There was no pain, and the oozing never returned. When I got home I went to the doctor. I told him that I had met a girl in another country, had done DATY, bbbj, and had sex with a condom (using different terminology, of course) and he took samples to test for gonorrhea, Chlamydia, and AIDS. He said that losing one’s voice is a symptom of Chlamydia. He also gave me a round of antibiotics, including Cipro, to preemptively treat me for gonorrhea and Chlamydia. A few days later all the tests came back negative. He said I might have gotten a bit of e coli or other bacteria inside me and he didn’t know what might have caused me to lose my voice.

A few days later I got an email response from the terrific girl from Help. I don’t remember her work name and I don’t want to tell her real name. She told me she was sorry for getting there too late the next day; she couldn’t make it with the lousy public transportation. (OK, she maybe should have taken this into account, but she had only had three or four hours to get home, do whatever she had to do, and get back.) She said she had waited for me for a long time, and the guys at the hotel were nice to her and told her that they had seen someone who seemed to be waiting for someone else. We emailed and phoned each other for about a year.

She went to Florida to live with a boyfriend she had met in Help before meeting me, but it didn’t work out well. I learned about this slowly. First she told me she had a visa to the US and I wondered what for and how she got it. Then I noticed that the headers of a couple of the messages she sent me were “re:”s to messages that I hadn’t sent. She asked me if she could visit me, but I told her (truthfully) that I had a girlfriend. I wasn’t willing to have her come visit me after only meeting her once, but I thought that if I could get down to Rio, spend some more time with her, and learn more about her, I might feel comfortable inviting her to stay with me (depending on how things evolved with my girlfriend) and see what would happen next. I improved my Portuguese greatly by writing her. We wrote almost daily for a while. The next summer we talked about me going down to visit her in Rio, but then when I could finally take vacation she was back visiting her boyfriend in Florida, so I didn’t go and she stopped writing me back. Who knows, if I had gone maybe it would have been great, or maybe I would have ended up the subject of daily emails between her and another client about how things weren’t working out with the guy she was living with.

Catalyst
06-24-06, 04:30
She was a student getting a degree that sounded respectable. I asked her if she wanted to stay with me for the day (my last day) and she said she had to go home, but she would come back and we agreed to meet around one o’clock. I figured we could go to lunch and then walk along the beach. If we still hit it off I could come back to Rio and see her. I gave her 100 US dollars and she left. I checked out of my hotel and told them I would be back in a few hours to pick up my suitcases and go to the airport. I heard one desk guy mumble to the other “he had two different girls in his room”, so apparently they had kept a record of my antics and didn’t entirely approve (or maybe they were just jealous).

Well, this turned out to be another fucking no show. I waited for about 45 minutes and gave up. I went to the restaurant I was going to take her to and it wasn’t that great anyway. It was quiet and uncrowded, so it was a drag to be there alone. The consolation prize was that I now had time for a last trip to Centaurus.

Centaurus

Josie (again) and
Name?, age?, looks 7, attitude 7

It turned out to be a good thing that I went. When I arrived I saw Susanna there and ignored her. I saw Josie and with mixed feelings paired her up with another girl and did another threeway session with her. If she did doubles and cim (which I had found to be a problem at other clubs, at least in doubles sessions) how bad could it be? Well, it wasn’t awful, but it was every bit as mechanical as before. And just like before we finished after 25 minutes and Josie announced that time was up. This time, on principle, I complained, and to her credit she started a good blow job and I got more action up until the last minute, though I wasn’t able to pop again. I noticed that it got better when I demanded respect, though.

At one point Susanna came over to me and had the nerve to ask if I wanted to go with her again. I found that incredibly mercenary. I told her coldly that I don’t get to Rio very often and I wanted to go with a different girl each time, so sorry.

Name?, 22?, looks 8, attitude 8

I noticed another nice girl with shiny straight reddish hair. She was nice in the room, except that once we began lovemaking she wanted to constantly change positions. There was a nice position that she suggested with her lying on her stomach and me on top of her with my legs outside hers. Just as it was getting nice, though, she insisted that we change yet again. Another problem was that until then I had been using my own condoms. The condoms in termas and drugstores in Rio are all too thick in my opinion. But I had just run out of my good ones, so I had to use the thick ones she had. After a while the constant changing of positions threw me off my rhythm, and after a week like that one I needed to be in a good rhythm, so I wasn’t able to finish.

When I was done I ran into Janice and she explained that Susanna was new to the club. When I went with her the first time I was one of her first clients and she had fallen in love with me. Janice had since explained to her not to do this, that she has to realize that most of the guys consider what goes on not to be serious. It was also right after her mother got sick and she was emotional. When I took her the second time with Janice it really upset her to see the guy she liked banging another girl right in front of her.

I made light of it and told Janice that maybe Susanna had fallen in love with me, but I had fallen in love with Janice. But afterwards I thought about it and the story was plausible. If it was all an act to get more money out of me it was a very elaborate one, and it didn’t make sense anyway. Why would she stand me up, then give me a hard time in the doubles session, and then come and ask for another session with me? Now I was sad. I had been really mean to her. Some of these girls’ lives are probably difficult to start with, and now her mother gets sick and a guy she likes switches to another girl in front of her and tells her to get lost.

I found Janice and told her that I thought I had been hard on Susanna. She went and found her and I apologized to her. Susanna seemed extremely happy about this. We sat talked for a while and then exchanged contact information. I gave her an email address and she gave me her mailing address and this made her happy and excited. I had to catch my plane, so there was no question of going to the room with her again, but I felt much better about everything and was very glad that I had gone back and cleared it all up.

Catalyst
06-24-06, 04:30
65

Name?, 25?, looks 7, attitude 10

I arrived late after doing some sightseeing. Upon reflection I realized how much sense it made to see Tracy and her friend, or Tracy and anyone if her friend weren’t available. Or even just Tracy by herself; I was willing to do anything with Tracy. Unfortunately I was out of luck. Neither Tracy nor her friend were there. My voice was getting better, so I could ask a girl to go to the room without her thinking that I had tuberculosis. I picked a pretty girl with long wavy black hair. We had a nice session and I came in her mouth. She told me she was married and I said I envied her husband. After that I was still feeling beat, most of the girls I might have been interested in I had already done, and my voice still wasn’t completely well, so I called it a night.

Help

Working name?, 26, looks 10, attitude 9

Well, ok, I decided to check out Help and then call it a night. Inside I saw the girl who I had spoken to the night before and sat with her this time. She was really sweet. When I asked her if she wanted to come with me all she said was “will you give me a present?” I smiled and said yes. It looked like I had picked a winner. I had no idea.

Back in my room she went to take a shower, and when she came out as I headed in I saw her pull the towel off and said to myself “this is going to be good”! She was a 10. Actually she wasn’t as wild as some other girls. In fact she insisted on cbj. But other than that she was very sweet, innocent, and girl next doorish. And hot too. Sleeping next to her was a joy and we had another great round early in the morning.

Catalyst
06-24-06, 04:31
65

Name?, 21?, looks 7, attitude 10 and
Name?, 21?, looks 6, attitude 10

There were lots of girls here that I wanted to try. I picked a nice small thin girl with wavy brown hair and a flat chest who had a nice animated attitude. She was a 7. I paired her with another small thin girl with long straight blonde hair, a nice figure, though just an ok face. She was a 6. It was a nice hot threeway session with lost of kissing. One of the more interesting positions was with the girls on their sides doing 69 and me spooning one of them.

After that (and the previous four days, of course) I started to feel worn out. Tracy and her friend showed up, and they quickly came over to me and started rubbing up against me. But I didn’t think I was ready for a threeway session yet. I didn’t want to go with them and have a hard time performing. So I told them that I liked them being there, but I wasn’t ready to go with them to a room. They walked off. I’m never quite sure what to say in those situations. I don’t want to lead the girls on and make them think that I am about to do a session with them, but I also don’t want them to think I am telling them to get lost, especially if they are nice and I want to see them again, or that it is all only about the sex.

Name?, 24?, looks 7, attitude 7

Because of my limited energy I decided to stick to plain one on one sessions until I felt revitalized. I picked a tall thin girl who had been standing quietly in corners and towards the back of the room. Her personality in the main area was not much different from her personality in the room. It was a fine session, but she didn’t have the usual flamboyance of other Rio girls.

Around this time I started noticing that my voice was getting raspy. I doubted that it was from talking so much. I worried that I had stuck my tongue somewhere that I shouldn’t have. I worried that the girls would not want to go with me if they thought I might be sick. It didn’t occur to me, though, that I might have something serious.

Name?, 21?, looks 7, attitude 10

In fact my voice wasn’t even on my mind when I thought of an interesting fantasy. I had seen a nice girl with short dark hair who seemed friendly, but she tended to stand in the shadows near the back of the room. I had watched her and thought she was pretty, a 7, but I hadn’t spoken with her. It occurred to me that it would be fun to have sex with her without her ever saying anything to me. I got another girl’s attention and asked her if she would help me. I pointed out the first girl to her and told her that I wanted to go to the room with her without ever hearing her speak. I wanted her voice, her name, and everything else about her to remain a mystery to me. The messenger girl went to the first girl and I could see her nodding her head and then smiling at me. She came over with a smile and I asked her if she understood. She nodded yes and we went to a room. There was a small potential glitch when she needed to ask me how long I wanted, but she did something clever to ask me without speaking (can’t remember what).

The session was nice and it was a cool fantasy. Afterwards she left and for a while remained anonymous to me, but later she turned out to be friends with the first two girls I went with and was with them when I went over to hang out with them, so we all talked for a bit and I heard her voice, but enough time had passed that it did not spoil the fantasy. One of the girls from the doubles session asked if I would buy her a Red Bull, and I said sure. Then, after hanging out for a bit, I decided that I was out of gas, at least for the next hour or two, and if I left I would have time to see Barbarella’s which I had never been to.

Barbarella’s

I took a taxi. The driver wasn’t familiar with it and when we arrived on the street that had not only Barbarella’s but a host of other flamboyantly marked similar establishments he said “you’re kidding, right?” I was slightly embarrassed, but recognized that this must be the most clueless cabdriver in Rio.

I was on my guard from the moment I entered Barbarella’s. I had heard stories about the bill padding and overall high prices, so I asked the price of everything before I did anything. I figured I would spend the entry fee and buy a drink, but probably not take a girl unless she was much better and cheaper than I expected. I wasn’t expecting good value, I was pretty drained from a day at 65, and on top of everything my voice was getting much worse. Whenever I started to talk it was immediately clear something was wrong and it became the first subject of any conversation I had with anyone. I wondered whether any girl would want to go with me after hearing me rasp. Several girls came and sat with me. They were aggressive with their sales pitches and the prices they quoted were for two hours for at least the Help all-night price, and that was before taking the fee for the girl leaving the bar into account. It was probably the best selection of girls anywhere, but it was also the biggest money machine. Once I had had my fill of gawking at the selection and had checked out the prices I left.

Help

Since I was driving past Copa I figured I might as well stop by Help just to take a look. Again I just window shopped. My voice was so bad at this point I could barely talk and it would have been difficult to flirt and negotiate. I had a drink and sat on the upper level, just watching, before going home. One nice girl, however, caught my eye, and I had a quick conversation with her, though I tried to keep it very short so that if I saw her again she wouldn’t remember me as the sick guy.

Catalyst
06-24-06, 04:32
Centaurus

Susanna (again) and
Janice, 23?, looks 8, attitude 10

After some tourism I returned to Centaurus late in the day. Susanna was there and she quickly came up to me and apologized for standing me up the other day. She explained that her mother had gone to the hospital and she had to be with her mother instead of meeting me. It sounded plausible, and it didn’t make much sense for her to stand me up without a good reason. I said ok, it was forgotten, and everything was good again. I asked her if we could get another girl to join us and she said ok. I picked Janice, a girl who looked just slightly older, taller, and had long dark hair.

The rooms were full, as usual, so there was quite a long wait on the bench sofa in the main room. This was no problem since I had a nice girl on either side of me, so I took turns making out with each one. Janice was particularly eager and free about making out, and a couple of times after getting attention from her for a long time I turned to Susanna and got odd looks from her. She seemed jealous.

In the room Susanna’s attitude changed. We started out with some kissing, but when I also kissed Janice Susanna started acting cold like a rip-off artist. She wouldn’t do a double blow job with Janice. When I got on top of Janice I tried to get her to come over and kiss me but she just looked away and made a face like I was asking her to do something perverted. I got pissed off. First I get stood up and now this. I spent the rest of the session with Janice and ignored her. After that we didn’t talk if we passed each other in the club. I was fed up with Centaurus at this point and I left.

Catalyst
06-24-06, 04:32
Aeroporto

Name?, 25?, looks 7, attitude 7
Name?, 25?, looks 6, attitude 7

One of my better days on my previous trip had been at Aeroporto, so I went back. But things had changed. The layout was the same, but the girls were a step down. I picked two who were ok. When we got to the room I was surprised at how small it was. It was probably the same as the last time I was there, but visiting Germany had spoiled me. The bed was the size it would be in a cheap single occupancy hotel room above the train station. It was fixed in the corner of the room and there wasn’t much space around it. Also it was high, so all the action had to be on the bed. It was hard for all of us to squeeze onto it and the sex was awkward. Maybe I was supposed to upgrade to a suite. I don’t remember much about the girls or the session. Threeway sex is always nice, and I had to see the old place, so I don’t regret going there, but once I was done there was nothing else that interested me, and I had new clubs to explore, so I moved on.

65

Tracy, 22?, looks 10, attitude 10 and
Name, 22?, looks 10, attitude 10

Therma 65 looked like a regular disco. Loud music throbbed and people filled the dance floor so that there was hardly room to stand. I looked for the two best looking girls in the club and found them,. They were Tracy and a girl whose name I forget, but who was just as hot as Tracy. Tracy was gorgeous. She was tall, with short blow dried brown hair that curved inwards to her neck. The other girl was short, with straight blonde hair down to her shoulders. Both girls were thin and had great chests, especially Tracy.

I was really into them kissing and this was no problem. They did what I asked them to do with each other and eventually took over themselves, completely getting into making love to each other. They DFK’d and started breathing heavily as they rubbed their knees into each others’ crotches, holding each other tight. We did many positions, including me on top of each of them with them kissing each other, and my dick in one pussy and my tongue in the other. I came inside Tracy while they made out with each other, rubbing each others tits. Afterwards we talked and they both seemed intelligent, particularly Tracy. I told them that I regretted not speaking better Portuguese because I had the sense that we could have had some good conversation if not for the language barrier. I said that working in termas seemed much more accepted in Rio than in America and Tracy said that this may be true, but added gravely that I shouldn’t think that it is completely accepted since a girl who is found to be working in one faces a lot of criticism.

Name?, 22?, looks 8, attitude 7 and
Name?, 22?, looks 7, attitude 9

After a rest I noticed a really cute blonde girl talking to a guy. She had short fluffy light blonde hair. She wasn’t model thin, but she was curvy and had a nice chest and a beautiful face. I was jealous. I stood behind the guy she was talking to, caught her eye, and pantomimed her picking him up with both hands and throwing him away, which made her laugh. A minute later she was over talking to me and we were looking for another girl to join us. We found a nice small blonde girl who she liked and we were off to a room. It was frustrating because I found the first girl irresistible, but she wasn’t completely cooperative about kissing. Otherwise everything was fine. I especially remember being on top of the second girl and trying to push my tongue as deep as I could get it into the first girl’s pussy. I finished inside the first girl while making out with the small girl.

Michelle, 23?, looks 8, attitude 8

I was worn out after that and I rested for a long time. There isn’t much to do in the club when you are not f---ing. I got a drink and looked for a good seat (seats were scarce) where I had a view of the floor. After a rest I approached a cute girl and asked her if I could find another girl for us to go with. She said no, she wasn’t in to it (probably the only Rio girl who has ever given me this answer). But she was really pretty. Her name was Michelle. She had medium length straight brown hair and looked young and fit. So I settled for plain vanilla sex with one girl. I thought it would add some nice variety to try it one time. It was good. She certainly wasn’t as wild as some other Rio girls. She said that she never did lesbian; she didn’t like it. I didn’t even try to do cim with her. But we had fun.

Catalyst
06-24-06, 04:33
Solarium

Name?, 23?, looks 8, attitude 10 and
Name, 23?, looks 7, attitude 10

Susanna never showed up the next day. I have not had a good record of Rio girls showing up when they are supposed to. Fortunately Solarium was open on Sundays, so I headed over. The selection was clearly not as good as at Centaurus, but there were a couple of pretty ones, so I picked a nice flamboyant girl with shoulder length straight black hair and asked her if she wanted me to pick another girl. She smiled and said definitely. In the room we had really hot, no holds barred bisexual sex, with lots of kissing between the girls and lots of pussy licking. Afterwards I was talking with the first girl about what we had just done and she looked away, smiled, and said “I love to lick pussy”.

Name, 20?, looks 7, attitude 10

Those were the two best girls in the place. There was one other who wasn’t bad, a short girl with neck length black hair who was shy and sweet. We went to the room, had a good time, and she was very willing when I came in her mouth, sucking it for a while after I came with a big smile on her face.

After seeing those three girls I thought I had done the club and decided to save my energies for other places and the long week ahead.

Catalyst
06-24-06, 04:34
Centaurus

After an absence of a year and a half I couldn’t believe I was in Rio walking down the sunny street on my way to Centaurus. Once inside I wasn’t as dazzled as I had been on my previous visits because I had since discovered FKK clubs in Germany and had seen real luxury in the sex industry. I saw that Rio facilities weren’t quite as clean and modern by comparison, but they were fine and what really matters anyway is the girls.

Josie, 23?, looks 9, attitude 6 and
Name?, age?, looks 7, attitude 7

My first choice was Josie, a hot blonde with an hourglass figure who knew she was good looking. I paired her up with another girl who was an 8 and did a threeway. It was just ok. They seemed to be going through the motions to get me out as fast as they could. There was some kissing, some kissing of each other, some going down on each other, but none of it seemed willing or passionate. I had to constantly nag them. Josie even let me cum in her mouth, but still it was just ok. When I came Josie said time was up. I didn’t say anything since the cim was special and I wasn’t going to manage another round anyway, but there was a clock in the room and I saw that we had only been there 25 minutes, not 40 (and 40 minutes was already a decrease from the 50 minute sessions on my last visit).

Name?, 23?, looks 7, attitude .

My next pick was the worst dud I have ever had in Brazil. She was on the thick side, but fit, with not great tits. Her black hair was short and so was the blow job. When we did sex she held her legs together and writhed to limit the penetration. She insisted on changing positions often. Then she thought it would be better if she would blow me, but that quickly morphed into a hand job. It gradually wound down with her hand getting tired or she just getting bored, my dick getting limp, and her giving me a well not much we can do about this is there look. I didn’t try to stop her from snuffing out the session because I didn’t want to waste a pop on her. I regret not complaining to management about her, but I hadn’t asked her what her name was, so complaining would have meant going to the trouble of bringing one of the cranky deskpeople upstairs, finding her, and pointing her out. A couple of times I tried to hang out near her and see if someone would mention her name, but that didn’t work.

Susanna, 25, looks 8, attitude 10

My sacred Rio hotspot was letting me down. Next I picked Susanna, a beautiful girl with long straight blonde hair, and a thick body, but not with much fat. This turned out more like it. It was a nice session with kissing and good emotion and she let me cum in her mouth. Afterwards we talked and got along well. We agreed to meet the next day - Sunday, which was her day off - for lunch. At one point afterwards when we were talking in the main room she smiled at me and said “now don’t go to Help ... nao e hygenico ... ”

Help

Name?, 20?, looks 10, attitude 6

Once it got late I left and went straight to Help. It was about as I had remembered it, 2/3 freak show and the rest ordinary looking girls with a few hot ones mixed in. I started a conversation with a super hot tall sexy model figure blonde. She smiled and flitted around like Cameron Diaz, letting me hold her most of the time and periodically grabbing me for short DFK sessions on the dance floor. She was with some good looking friends who also had found dates. We agreed on all night for 200 reals and she gave me a huge kiss. All of this was great except that it seemed odd that she had to go to the bathroom so often and for so long. When we were leaving I found out why. We got outside the club and she had to talk to a friend of hers who joined us for a moment. She handed him some money and he very conspicuously stepped between me and her with his back to me to block my view of his handoff. I told her there was no way she was bringing whatever it was into my hotel room. When I made it clear that it was a deal breaker and started to walk away she said ok and threw it on the ground, so I relented. I know, huge mistake, but she was gorgeous and I was not very experienced. Fortunately it didn’t turn out very badly this time, but I think I may have been lucky. Once you see drugs you should run away fast.

I didn’t fully appreciate the risk I was taking until afterwards. I checked her in at the desk of my hotel and up in the room I fucked her brains out with no problems. I had all my valuables locked up, so I wasn’t worried about security. She told me she had a daughter, and I thought I understood working in Help for money, but what the hell are you doing using drugs? Afterwards, having a beautiful girl in my bed was too distracting for me to be able to get any sleep, so I tried anyway for a while, but when the sun came up I decided to get her interested in a second round. If she left after that, fine, at least I could get some rest, or maybe she would stay and we would have nonstop sex all morning.

I started caressing her, and became increasingly less subtle when she didn’t react. She finally got up in a fit, told me I was crazy, and started to get dressed. When she had her clothes on she said “200 reals!” and snapped her fingers at me. I looked at her for a moment and tried to think how to say hell no, we agreed on all night and that means more than one round, but I didn’t really know what position to take. Did I want her to take her clothes off again and give me another round right then and there? She was in a nasty mood, so it would be lousy anyway. It was starting to dawn on me that this crankiness might have something to do with her not having her drugs. If she wasn’t going to do another round the only other option was to pay her less, but I didn’t know how much less. What was the going no sex in the morning rate? And no matter what I decided anything less than 200 was going to result in a firestorm. I gave in, paid, and she left. I felt like a skinny cellmate in the state pen who decides that it is less trouble to bend over and not resist.

Catalyst
06-24-06, 04:39
Venerable colleagues,

I submit for your consideration the report on my third visit ever to Rio. Reports on subsequent past visits have already been posted, so the next report will have to await my next visit. (Of course anyone who wants to accelerate the process can do so by taking up a collection on my behalf.)

Ameer Alsahab
06-24-06, 14:39
Hi there,

Is there anyone here who knows about the scene in Dubai? I know the scene in Dubai very well, but I need someone to compare both cities. (girls, price, quality of service etc.)

Thanx

Paisan80
06-24-06, 19:25
Nice detail in the reviews, but some pics would definately help! I would like to see how your ratings actually compare to the girls.

Paisan

Sperto
06-24-06, 21:58
Hi there,
Is there anyone here who knows about the scene in Dubai? I know the scene in Dubai very well, but I need someone to compare both cities. (girls, price, quality of service etc.)
Thanx
In Dubai the women wear veils.
In Rio the women wear fio dental.

About the bunda-situation: I guess Dubai won't be the winner.

Tricktracy
06-24-06, 22:22
You are an ass. Brazilian women are really good at sensing assholes. You should see what they say about your type behind your back when you are in a termas (yes, I speak Portuguese).

Guys like you who worry about an extra $5 do not have the dollars to travel. Do them a favor and go somewhere else or do all women a favor and become a monk.
I see guys on here all the time saying they got a CBJ. That never ever happens with me.

This is the type of responce from someone that did not like my report about bad service but that ok, I'm going to break this down for him. This person is upset because he afraid that I might disrupt his good thing. See I check his posts, and most of them are in the Brazil section, so I can tell that this man sex life ends once he gets stateside. Since he have no talent with the American women, his safe place is in Brazil where it eazy for him to get laid. By me making my report, he worried that it would turn the Brazillian women off to American men. When let me say this, these women are getting more and more Americanized everyday. What we like, dislikes, everything about us and like that old saying goes "Familiarity breeds contempt." The day is coming that the only difference between a Brazillian and an American woman is the location, and the "GFE" is going be far and few. So enjoy it while can, because your little dream world is coming to a end.

Admin
06-25-06, 17:42
Greetings everyone,

I have moved all the reports regarding the apartment rental services of Gringo Management to a new thread:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2478

Thanks,

Jackson

The Corn Hole
06-25-06, 22:46
You are an ass. Brazilian women are really good at sensing assholes. You should see what they say about your type behind your back when you are in a termas (yes, I speak Portuguese).

Guys like you who worry about an extra $5 do not have the dollars to travel. Do them a favor and go somewhere else or do all women a favor and become a monk.
I see guys on here all the time saying they got a CBJ. That never ever happens with me.

This is the type of responce from someone that did not like my report about bad service but that ok, I'm going to break this down for him. This person is upset because he afraid that I might disrupt his good thing. See I check his posts, and most of them are in the Brazil section, so I can tell that this man sex life ends once he gets stateside. Since he have no talent with the American women, his safe place is in Brazil where it eazy for him to get laid. By me making my report, he worried that it would turn the Brazillian women off to American men. When let me say this, these women are getting more and more Americanized everyday. What we like, dislikes, everything about us and like that old saying goes "Familiarity breeds contempt." The day is coming that the only difference between a Brazillian and an American woman is the location, and the "GFE" is going be far and few. So enjoy it while can, because your little dream world is coming to a end.That's kind of a bleak outlook you have about Brazilian women. For all our sakes I hope your wrong.

I read guys complaining about a girl giving a cbj from time to time on here and I don't really know what to make of it. That has never happened to me in Rio or anyone I've talked to in Rio. It makes me almost think cbj is an urban myth. But it's been a while since I've been there maybe it's changed substantially. I have encountered some girls in BA who took an unwavering stance against bbbj and I had to give them the boot. I have a list of things I won't tolerate from a pro and that's at the top of the list.

RonnyRon
06-26-06, 01:33
The day is coming that the only difference between a Brazillian and an American woman is the location, and the "GFE" is going be far and few. So enjoy it while can, because your little dream world is coming to a end.

It will be a very long time before Brazilian women catch up with their American counterparts and hopefully I will be much too old to care. Much will need to change in Brazil for that to happen. The entire social makeup of Brazil must change for women in Brazil to have the upper hand they have in the U.S. Thank GOD.

RR

Tricktracy
06-26-06, 01:51
That's kind of a bleak outlook you have about Brazilian women. For all our sakes I hope your wrong.

I read guys complaining about a girl giving a cbj from time to time on here and I don't really know what to make of it. That has never happened to me in Rio or anyone I've talked to in Rio. It makes me almost think cbj is an urban myth. But it's been a while since I've been there maybe it's changed substantially. I have encountered some girls in BA who took an unwavering stance against bbbj and I had to give them the boot. I have a list of things I won't tolerate from a pro and that's at the top of the list.Well I was just making a statement to a fool, but the only place I got bbbj was at the termas. Many girls from Help and MP now do cbj, so times are changing. That's what I mean by the "Familiarity breeds contempt" statement, some of the girls feel that they don't have to go the extra yard. Like I had anal with a girl three years ago, now she says "You're too big." Too many Americans are coming to Brazil, so they have become use to us, we are not special to them anymore. New guys come in and lose thier minds, and go for whatever the girls say, then the game is different for now on. I've been going to Rio off and on since 86, so I don't know about the other cities in Brazil so I can't speak on different places. Just sit back and check out the girls' attitudes, compared to the last time you visit, and you would see what I'm saying. Don't get me wrong, Rio is still fun, but not as much. Termas girls still go all out, best sex I had in Brazil is with them. I pulled one out of 4X4 and freak her all weekend long, and she was a beast. Don't worry, there some throwback girls, just have to find them.

Tiradentes
06-27-06, 03:09
Quote USA today:

"With the Brazilian real rising about 20% vs. the U.S. dollar over the past year (ie 2005-2006), Brazilian cities Sao Paolo and Rio de Janeiro surged to No. 34 and No. 40 from No. 119 and No. 124, respectively. "

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-06-26-expensive-cities_x.htm?csp=34

If this trend persists, in one year from now, most of us won't be able to travel to Rio anymore. What a shame!

(Damn you Lula, i hope you lose the election)

Gianni Versace
06-28-06, 23:39
Hey All

Im going to Rio and am looking to book a a good cheap 4 or 5 star hotel maybe 3 star hotel in a great location. Can anyone please offer any suggestions. Also the hotel must be girl friendly. Thanks in advance.

GV