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Thanos
12-22-07, 21:00
Does anyone know where one can shoot pool & throw some darts in Rio?Shenanigans in Ipanema and even closer in Copa there is a 24hr internet spot at the corner of Nossa Senora & Copacabanna ave and Djham Marique (the street BOB's is on) it also serves as from what I understand a very nice hostel. There's a club in the back with pool tables.

Jan 156
12-22-07, 21:07
Would I be allowed to have multiple sessions with some of the girls, or would I have to pick 16 different VM girls? I am just asking, because in my book there is no way that there are 16 doable girls in that zoo. :D 3 to 5 maybe. But 16? LOL

Lol - Yep definitely, just need to get you in the zoo more good buddy, rather than that bubble-wrap joint down in BA <g> ;-) Remind me to bring 16 photos (or two or three times that many) of VM girls next time we meet up. Lining that number up is hard (it needs to be haha) but I've found four a day for several days on occasion. At least they have nearby pens. I've taken a few home a couple of times to share with a buddy in an adjoining room but mostly I like hopping from room to room. Can't think of anywhere in the world that 'lines 'em up' literally (though Marmalade is doing 15 atm). But at VM of course you might have enough spare change to do 17 ;-) All comes down to the zookeeping skills (or luck, or perseverance, or combination of all three).

One thing you maybe you get at 4x4 though is (sometimes) interesting conversation, but do you really want a full half hour with each?? Or shouldn't it be like 20 minute 'screen tests' followed by more involved sequences . . . ;-)

It is nice fantasy though - lining the girls up as if in a porn movie and slotting one after the other. Wonder if it happens outside of porn movies and harems of Arabian despots. Tell you what - you get four, I'll get four, and maybe get Sperto to add four. then all we need is a pad.

Thanos
12-22-07, 21:08
***Massagems***

These little places (usually 4 rooms or less) charge around R50 for 30 minutes, some charge R1 per minute. I find it takes a bit of work to find something decent here and the Termas are generally a much more fun atmosphere. These places are set up for the locals and hence are much cheaper and generally less hygienic. They are open from midday or so to 8pm or 10pm at night. It is not uncommon to see the same girls here go to Help at night or a beach front Restaurant. Best to bring you own condoms and lube, cheap and nasty describes these places. If I do a girl here I choose to do her "standing up" rather than use the bed, which may or may not be clean. The rooms are more like cubicles and hence may not have a door on them, hence other punters may well see your naked ass bouncing off the walls as they go by.

In Copacabana

Praca Serzedelo Correia 15, room 1104, R$30 for 30 minutes.
Hilário de Gouveia 66, apt 1103 (Level11). R$ 30 for 20 minutes.
Av North Copacabana 583, apt. 204. R$40 for 20 minutes. No need to take the elevator just walk up the stairs next to them. Try 202 when there, it is copa terma R$70 30mins.

Rua Siqueira Campos, 22, enter from Hilário de Gouveia, you will see the blue entrance with a 2 on each side of the door. R$80 for 40 minutes. A bit more expensive than the rest but still not as expensive as Monte etc and of course not as clean either.

Is this info up to date? any other info anyone can add?

Great guide bubbaTry the massage spots in centro and cinelandia for much better quality and better facilities. 60-80R for an hr. Some even offer two girls for 90R. 4-5 girls per spot. Most are just 3 bedroom apartments turned into massage spots but with that you get large clean beds and privacy. The 156 Rio branco building has at least 10 such places.

Rio Joe
12-22-07, 21:13
a good 50% of the population has blood certainly mixed with italians
25 millions brazilians are descendents from Italy.
Whatever the percentage, some of the most stunning cariocas I've met have Italian blood. One of the things that struck me my first trip to Rio was how much they looked like girls back home (Brooklyn, New York). Except without the lovely "Go F*ck yourself" attitude that some NY girls develop. ;)

On a more esoteric historical note, the Italian presence in Brazil shows the continuing posthumous influence of the Roman Empire. Not only the language via Portugal, but actual descendants of the Romans themselves. (Of course I'm waxing poetic a bit; there's been a lot of ethnic groups in Italy since the time of the legions.)

Thanos
12-22-07, 21:19
Would I be allowed to have multiple sessions with some of the girls, or would I have to pick 16 different VM girls? I am just asking, because in my book there is no way that there are 16 doable girls in that zoo. :D 3 to 5 maybe. But 16? LOL3-5 MAYBE. on a good day. after 6 caiparhinas. with every other termas closed. and a full moon and very dark glasses on. but that's one of the great things about brazil. not only the many differences in the girls but in the guys as well. i know a guy who deals with girls who are so heinious that he won't even reveal their identities. me and some friends make a game out of guessing which secret ugly girl he pulled out of Help the night before. but hey. that's his thing. he goes for cheap, nasty sex and i guess they don't have to be pretty to provide that.

Thanos
12-22-07, 21:33
But at VM of course you might have enough spare change to do 17 ;-) All comes down to the zookeeping skills (or luck, or perseverance, or combination of all three).

{One thing you maybe you get at 4x4 though is (sometimes) interesting conversation, but do you really want a full half hour with each?? Or shouldn't it be like 20 minute 'screen tests' followed by more involved sequences . . . ;-})Another thing you get at 4x4 is the piece of mind of knowing that 99% of the girls take a shower before they move on to their next guy. I know that's only a minor detail in some guys book but I've seen too many VM girls back up and showing their stuff within seconds of the guy they were with which leads me to believe hygeine is not a top priority down there.

Jesuscola
12-23-07, 01:05
have been greatly exaggerated.

According to a poster on another board, Centaurus has not eliminated the 40 minute session. A phone call confirms that they have, however raised their prices.

A 40 minute session is now R$400 reals. One hour is now R$620 reals. These prices include the entrance fee which is now R$120 reals--at least for non-native Brazilians. I confirmed this personally by calling Centaurus, and speaking with a friend who goes there regularly.

Still completely retarded but not as bad as speculation would have it...

BionicMan
12-23-07, 01:26
The Italian influence is great in Brazil, but 50% might be a bit over-exaggerated. More like 13%, which is still a lot.
25 millions brazilians are descendents from Italy.
http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imigra%C3%A7%C3%A3o_italiana_no_Brasil
I can't dispute, Sperto... my assumption was not scientific but mainly by feeling.
Maybe because I visit Sao Paulo where the percentage might be higher and therefore misleading me.
It is a fact there is a strong european influence here and there, just like in the southern parts of Brazil (as in northern Argentina) there are villages/communities strongly influenced by german architecture.
But the influence there is more recent, with german new comers arriving 60 years ago out of the blue...lot of money and no past history (they wanted) to tell! eh eh (sorry for the digression.

Pipe Layer99
12-23-07, 02:51
I don't know if this would be so helpful. The truth is that often there is a smooth transition between p4p and freebies with many of the garotas.

I like the idea of having a separate thread for Non-Pro Garotas. One thread for Non-Pro discussion. That will leave this thread for the other reports.

Donnie

Thanos
12-23-07, 03:21
have been greatly exaggerated.

According to a poster on another board, Centaurus has not eliminated the 40 minute session. A phone call confirms that they have, however raised their prices.

A 40 minute session is now R$400 reals. One hour is now R$620 reals. These prices include the entrance fee which is now R$120 reals--at least for non-native Brazilians. I confirmed this personally by calling Centaurus, and speaking with a friend who goes there regularly.

Still completely retarded but not as bad as speculation would have it...If that's true its even worse than I thought. Before I thought it was 400R for an hour. Now you say its 400R for only forty minutes. Like you said.completely retarded.

Almotu
12-23-07, 06:26
Would I be allowed to have multiple sessions with some of the girls, or would I have to pick 16 different VM girls? I am just asking, because in my book there is no way that there are 16 doable girls in that zoo. :D 3 to 5 maybe. But 16? LOLIt's all personal taste. But I think if you like mulattas, you will have more luck there. VM Bodies are also more 'aged' than usual terma girls. I found amazing looking quality at 85 Buenos Aires for about the same price ($R1=min) back in early November. But I did not session so not sure about their atitudes.

Sperto
12-23-07, 09:06
In Copacabana
Praca Serzedelo Correia 15, room 1104, R$30 for 30 minutes.
Hilário de Gouveia 66, apt 1103 (Level11). R$ 30 for 20 minutes.
Av North Copacabana 583, apt. 204.
Is this info up to date?
Hilário de Gouveia 66, apt 1103, is closed.

I would rather walk 1 block away to the metro station and head to centro.

Hitmanm3
12-23-07, 09:13
Minnie Me is back in town, I saw her last night in Help. Unfortunately, the internet has ruined the girl. She told me last night that dozens of guys have been coming down and telling her how she is the talk of the internet. She actually said Ě am FAMOUS now!! Everyone who comes to Rio wants to find me!`

I thought she was joking at first but she was dead serious, she is really proud of her ´celebrity status`. Along with her star attitude she now charges a minimum of 300R for the night. I was like `Minnie, I was the very first American you ever fucked! I have been paying you 200R for years now!` She said `with a big smile`I know, but I am married now, plus I am famous, so you have to pay 300R! Thats a special rate for you, other guys have to pay more!

I wished her a good evening and told her I am happy I knew her before she became a big star!!Lets get the story straight about Alessandra. AKA Minnie-me. She is married to a Gringo from Maryland since 2004 but he never came back to get her. She is from contagem Minas Gerald not Belo. How do I know this. My boy from Jersey used to be her main client. He even has stayed at her place in Minas. When I heard the news that she was back I gave him a call. He told me about what happen and why she stold the money. Guys I hope that Mr. Jackson lets you guys read what he told me. She is a time bomb waiting to EXPLODE. He stated that she stold the money because she had to get a series of treatments and test to find out if she had HIV. She turned out to be POSITIVE. When he found out that she was infected he was freaking out even-though he always ***** a condom. He cannot believe she is doing what she is doing with no regards to the out come of others. He turned out negative by the way. I hope we realize how important it is to wear a jimmy. Guys the information that I got is from the horses mouth. So be aware of Minnie-me. She was always cool to be with. But desperation changes people and in a country where a person has no way to make a living but on there backs. Caution and trust mean nothing. And the fact that she has a kid makes her desperate.

Sperto
12-23-07, 09:23
Would I be allowed to have multiple sessions with some of the girls, or would I have to pick 16 different VM girls? I am just asking, because in my book there is no way that there are 16 doable girls in that zoo. :D 3 to 5 maybe. But 16? LOL
That would be a very difficult, but not impossible, task to find 16 doable girls at VM in one night.

I remember one evening, after a football match in Maracana, a big van arrived in VM. A couple of Vasco player was picking up about 2 dozen of girls to a big party Vasco was having. The girls were very eager to go so the guys filled the van quite quickly with doable girls.

One of my favourite girls went. She told me afterwards that the party had been very rough and she had lots of bruises on her body.

Mangera
12-23-07, 15:12
It's all personal taste. But I think if you like mulattas, you will have more luck there. VM Bodies are also more 'aged' than usual terma girls. I found amazing looking quality at 85 Buenos Aires for about the same price ($R1=min) back in early November. But I did not session so not sure about their atitudes.

Back in June of this year, I was able to hook up two garotas from Buenos Aires 85 for two hours at a hotel for 60r apiece. Thats right, a total of 120r for both for 2hrs. We had a great time, and they stayed longer than 2 hrs. Both were much higher quality than VM.

This is how it came about........I first banged a nice petite blonde at BA 85, and we somewhat hit it off ( Amazing what being able to speak basic portuguese can do for you). So she then introduced me to her muluta friend while still in the cabina. She was hot and they were into each other. After the session with the blond at BA 85, the three of us chatted for a while in the bar area and thats where we agreed upon the 120r for two hours for the following day which was a saturday. They do not work at BA 85 during the weekends. So it worked out great. So when I hear of 400r for 40 minutes at a termas, I just have to say "wow". I will admit that I have done that too in the past, but I have learned other ways of spending my cash more wisely.

Just for the record, I did pay for motel in Flamengo and bought some sandwiches and sucos for the garotas too. But hey, considering quality, quantity, and time of service, it was still a hell of a deal. I could have saved more $ if I had decided to have the threesome in my apartment, but I was being cautious because it was two ladies and I do not want to worry about getting robbed. Now that I know them better, I would envite them over next time. Only in Brazzziiiiiuuuu!

Exec Talent
12-23-07, 15:53
In my pursuit of normal girls, this is something else that keeps coming up over and over again. They want to have threesomes with another girl. While some have friends who want to participate, that has gotten a little complicated at times.

Any escorts anyone can recommend? The fantasy for the girls is active participation, so I am looking for escorts who really enjoy being with another woman.

Thanos
12-23-07, 21:03
It's all personal taste. But I think if you like mulattas, you will have more luck there. VM Bodies are also more 'aged' than usual terma girls. I found amazing looking quality at 85 Buenos Aires for about the same price ($R1=min) back in early November. But I did not session so not sure about their atitudes.The VM is majority mullatas which is why its one of the cheapest places in Rio and saying the bodies of the girls there are "aged" is being too kind. A better adjective would be scarred. Let's be for real. There's a reason the ultra cheap places are ultra cheap. Most brazilian guys who frequent the super cheap places could care less if they had sheep in there as long as there was some funky dance on the speakers and cold skol in their glasses.

It's all a matter of tastes and prior experiences. Some guys love the VM and some guys find the girls there hideous. One guy's beauty is another guy's buttface.

Thanos
12-23-07, 21:23
In my pursuit of normal girls, this is something else that keeps coming up over and over again. They want to have threesomes with another girl. While some have friends who want to participate, that has gotten a little complicated at times.

Any escorts anyone can recommend? The fantasy for the girls is active participation, so I am looking for escorts who really enjoy being with another woman.I'm sure any escort will participate if you're paying enough. One question: when you say normal girls are you talking non-gdps whom you pay or girls that you just hook up with free of charge and right off the bat want a threesome? Just asking because most of the normal girls I know just want a normal relationship.

Chi Town Hustler
12-24-07, 06:22
I have a question do I need to bring my laptop or just the vonage box and connect to the DSL or Cable in the Apt?

Mr Enternational
12-24-07, 07:09
I'm sure any escort will participate if you're paying enough. One question: when you say normal girls are you talking non-gdps whom you pay or girls that you just hook up with free of charge and right off the bat want a threesome? Just asking because most of the normal girls I know just want a normal relationship.

I'm like you dude. I don't think I know any of my non-gdp Brazilians that I would even think about asking to do that.

Rio Joe
12-24-07, 08:58
Any escorts anyone can recommend? The fantasy for the girls is active participation, so I am looking for escorts who really enjoy being with another woman. Most of the major services probably have at least a few bonafide bi-babe/lesbians on their roster. My girlfriend and I "ordered in" a girl from Karla Models in August, I think her name was Yasmin. Her real-life namorada was another girl at the agency. She showed us her photo in the agency "book" that they all carry to appointments. Anyways, Yasmin was phenomenal. She literally (alright, not literally) devoured my girl, who kept telling me to watch how Yasmin gave her oral, since I seem to be cunilinguistically challenged.

When you call the services, tell them (in Port., if necessary): Minha namorada quer uma garota que realmente gosta otras mulheres, nao fingir. Voce tem?
("My girlfriend wants a girl that really likes other women, not just for show.")

Off Road
12-24-07, 16:35
I have a question do I need to bring my laptop or just the vonage box and connect to the DSL or Cable in the Apt?Not sure of your question. Bring the vonage box if you want your phone number down here, but you will also need a phone. Bring your laptop if you want to use the computer. Bring both and you have have phone and computer.

I used to bring my lingo (same as vonage) and my laptop. Then I was connected just like in the states.

One Eyed Man
12-25-07, 04:21
I attended the holiday party at L'Uomo, and it was pretty fun. There was a buffet of fruits and nuts in the relax room, which I guess is standard Christmas fare. In the boate, the girls were all wearing short cocktail dresses or short-shorts, which I found more attractive and alluring than their usual bikinis. Although the women outnumbered the men 2:1, the girls were in good spirits (at least figuratively) and were dancing up a storm. I saw a few familiar faces, but mostly new ones, since the last time I was there six months ago.

JohnnyBraz
12-25-07, 07:01
I attended the holiday party at L'Uomo, and it was pretty fun. There was a buffet of fruits and nuts in the relax room, which I guess is standard Christmas fare. In the boate, the girls were all wearing short cocktail dresses or short-shorts, which I found more attractive and alluring than their usual bikinis. Although the women outnumbered the men 2:1, the girls were in good spirits (at least figuratively) and were dancing up a storm. I saw a few familiar faces, but mostly new ones, since the last time I was there six months ago.Everyone merry xmas, and can't wait till my 3 week break in Rio in Febuary.

Euro100
12-25-07, 17:57
The VM is majority mullatas which is why its one of the cheapest places in Rio and saying the bodies of the girls there are "aged" is being too kind. A better adjective would be scarred. Let's be for real. There's a reason the ultra cheap places are ultra cheap. Most brazilian guys who frequent the super cheap places could care less if they had sheep in there as long as there was some funky dance on the speakers and cold skol in their glasses.

It's all a matter of tastes and prior experiences. Some guys love the VM and some guys find the girls there hideous. One guy's beauty is another guy's buttface.

Yeah, maybe. But the treasure hunt to discover that one pearl is part of the fun. (BTW, as I have stated here before: even harder to find than a good-looking VM girl is a toilet at VM with TP :() One more thing: I never use a glass for my beer at VM. That would be suicidal. Only straight form the bottle!

Thanos
12-25-07, 19:30
Yeah, maybe. But the treasure hunt to discover that one pearl is part of the fun. (BTW, as I have stated here before: even harder to find than a good-looking VM girl is a toilet at VM with TP :() One more thing: I never use a glass for my beer at VM. That would be suicidal. Only straight form the bottle!Just the thought of having to use a toilet at VM is enough for me to never go there. Beer from the bottle is smart. It probably goes well with the dog on a stick they serve down there. Probably the hardest thing to find there are clean accomodations to do your business in. Its tough enough to find a decent girl but when she leads you to a dank room with a half inch mattress on the floor that looks like they just flip it over from customer to customer it kind of kills the mood.

Fordman
12-25-07, 19:42
Significant Other is accomapnying me to Rio for Carnival. What are the best live sex shows and strip bars, and what time does the action start?

JohnnyBraz
12-26-07, 02:44
Back in June of this year, I was able to hook up two garotas from Buenos Aires 85 for two hours at a hotel for 60r apiece. Thats right, a total of 120r for both for 2hrs. We had a great time, and they stayed longer than 2 hrs. Both were much higher quality than VM.

This is how it came about........I first banged a nice petite blonde at BA 85, and we somewhat hit it off ( Amazing what being able to speak basic portuguese can do for you). So she then introduced me to her muluta friend while still in the cabina. She was hot and they were into each other. After the session with the blond at BA 85, the three of us chatted for a while in the bar area and thats where we agreed upon the 120r for two hours for the following day which was a saturday. They do not work at BA 85 during the weekends. So it worked out great. So when I hear of 400r for 40 minutes at a termas, I just have to say "wow". I will admit that I have done that too in the past, but I have learned other ways of spending my cash more wisely.

Just for the record, I did pay for motel in Flamengo and bought some sandwiches and sucos for the garotas too. But hey, considering quality, quantity, and time of service, it was still a hell of a deal. I could have saved more $ if I had decided to have the threesome in my apartment, but I was being cautious because it was two ladies and I do not want to worry about getting robbed. Now that I know them better, I would envite them over next time. Only in Brazzziiiiiuuuu!How would I get to ba 85 from help. Would like to try it out in the day on my coming trip to Rio in feb. During the week I'm going to settle for escorts off a night. But in the day try some termas. Will do the help/mia pataca etc. On a weekend. Can anybody list me escorts sites that speak english. The cheaper ones. Will still try some off the freelancers as alot off them speak english. But cost 300 reals for 2 hours.

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

Jan 156
12-26-07, 06:14
How would I get to ba 85 from help.
Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

Walk along Miguel Lemos to Cantagalo Metro (subway) station. Take the Metro to Uruguiana station (there are announcements and maps of the line onboard and it's hard to miss). When you come out you will be in a hectic market area. There are several exits, but BA is one of the small streets leading away from the market square, opposite the Metro station.

Bear in mind it's a daytime visit you are looking at for BA85.

Jan 156
12-26-07, 06:22
Just the thought of having to use a toilet at VM is enough for me to never go there. Beer from the bottle is smart. It probably goes well with the dog on a stick they serve down there. Probably the hardest thing to find there are clean accomodations to do your business in. Its tough enough to find a decent girl but when she leads you to a dank room with a half inch mattress on the floor that looks like they just flip it over from customer to customer it kind of kills the mood.

Probably VM is not for you. For those who don't mind such things, there are one or two places with very decent clean toilets, but they don't exactly advertise it - learn to live like a local. I think there is one that has TP last time I looked, but every bar has it behind the bar for customers (supplied with the condom) - just don't expect to be entitled to it. Rooms vary too and there are one or two that are not bad. Canario (a few yards away) is positively luxurious, or at least not far off the standards at a terma if you get a better room. And there are many decent girls at VM. But you have to work a little bit to find them among hundreds of very ugly ones. Drinking beer from the bottle might be smart but it is also unsociable. There are several better bars that have clean glasses if you want to drink beer in VM.

Of course, VM is not for beginners or people who have that gut reaction. Please spend a little more and go to a nice terma. Leave VM for those that can enjoy it ;-)



ps I think Euro had a less than brilliant first visit - I had just taken him for an enormous steak sandwich with cheese and pineapple and everything . . . ;-)

Mangera
12-26-07, 14:19
Walk along Miguel Lemos to Cantagalo Metro (subway) station. Take the Metro to Uruguiana station (there are announcements and maps of the line onboard and it's hard to miss). When you come out you will be in a hectic market area. There are several exits, but BA is one of the small streets leading away from the market square, opposite the Metro station.

Bear in mind it's a daytime visit you are looking at for BA85.

Just to expand on Christophered's directions.................since you will already be visiting BA 85, you might as well go down 2 blocks further and also visit 4x4. It will be on Buenos Aires street on your left hand side. Definitely more expensive and much nicer than BA 85.

Junior
12-26-07, 16:08
Hi Fellow Mongers,

Just came back from a three week stay in Rio where as usually I spend most of my time at centaurus.

There is good news and bad news to report.

The good news is that the number of hot or very hot women was higher than at my most recent trips. There were quite a few ladies who fit my desires just right.

The bad news is that prices was just raised. As I recall a standard 40 minute program is now R280, a 1 hour program is R500 and my preferred program with two girls for 1 hour is now R900. I think the entrance fee also went up. With the real at current levels this is simply too expensive, so I reduced the number of programs I did at Centaurus and made plans to see a lot of the girls on the outside.

The other good news is that the number of clients were very low. In fact I cannot remember ever having seen so few clients. The girls were hungry to make money on the side, especially in the run up to christmas.

Otherwise no "business" news to report from Centaurus.



Junior

Ryjerrob
12-26-07, 20:13
Ok, as I again tried to follow in your shoes, I attempted to tackle 3 more places in Centro. My plan was simple, get in and get out.

First stop, #6, Rua Buenos Aires #85. Well I was not initially impressed, but it was better than the places I tried last week, and then the girls look much better. I believe the latter is probably because of strategically placed lighting, or lack there of. I will admit, I was really not too concerned with her name, she quoted the price, and I said let's go. The room reminded me of a dressing room in a department store. Well, I was kinda trying something on. Once she started on the nipple suck, I was done. I melted into her like butta, or emptied my butta into her butt, whichever you prefer.

The first floor was filled with about 12 guys sitting around waiting for something to happen. Maybe a show to start, I'm not sure, nor did I care. I found what I was looking for on the third floor. I was in and out in about 20 minutes, and dropped a whopping R$17 (Girl R$15/15 minutes, Water R$2).

It was just as described. I will check it out again, next week.


Second stop, #7 Rua Buenos Aires 113 was closed. No explanation offered by the old guy at the bottom of the stairs, nor did I ask.

Third stop, #5, Uruguaiana #24. After the walk in the heat, I needed another water. I walk up what seemed like three filghts of stairs, but it was worth the trip. I walked in, saw mostly guys standing around talking to each other, and thought about trying another floor when I saw this girl standing on the stair leading to the next floor. I went and stood behind her for a minute until she turned and talked to me. All I wanted to know was if we could grab a room now or what. We went up the next flight, and I gave the cashier R$21 for 20 minutes. The girl I was with asked if she could have the R$1 change, no problem. OMG, I haven't fucked like that since I don't know when. Sweat was literally dripping off my body from all over.

This is what it's all about. Sperto, you are a genius!!!!!!!!!!!! This place was as described also.

So there you have it for a first hand witness, and I'm lovin' it. A couple of tips for first timers. I took a small beach bag with me each day I've checked out these places. Inside I carry Sperto's report, a more detailed Centro map where I have drawn a path to and from each place I am visiting, personal condoms, and the most important item, I think, a canister of baby wipes for after doing the deed. I don't really care for a piece of toilet paper that is so small, I can't even blow my nose.

Again, I would never say one place is better than another, it depends on your personal preferences. I actually had a ball today. I find that I can speak more than enough Portuguese to get my message across.

Can't wait to see what tomorrow brings............................

ryjer

Tungurahua
12-27-07, 00:36
OMG, I haven't fucked like that since I don't know when. Sweat was literally dripping off my body from all over. This is what it's all about. Sperto, you are a genius! LMAO. Ryjer: now it is my turn to enjoy your reports.- it's just like being there. Welcome to a growing line of budget converts, courtesy of Sperto our Saviour!

Amen

Mr Enternational
12-27-07, 06:37
First stop, #6, Rua Buenos Aires #85. I found what I was looking for on the third floor. I was in and out in about 20 minutes, and dropped a whopping R$17 (Girl R$15/15 minutes, Water R$2).

It was just as described. I will check it out again, next week.

Third stop, #5, Uruguaiana #24. I walked in, saw mostly guys standing around talking to each other, and thought about trying another floor when I saw this girl standing on the stair leading to the next floor. I went and stood behind her for a minute until she turned and talked to me. All I wanted to know was if we could grab a room now or what. We went up the next flight, and I gave the cashier R$21 for 20 minutes. The girl I was with asked if she could have the R$1 change, no problem. OMG, I haven't fucked like that since I don't know when. Sweat was literally dripping off my body from all over.

This is what it's all about. So there you have it for a first hand witness, and I'm lovin' it. A couple of tips for first timers. I took a small beach bag with me each day I've checked out these places. Inside I carry Sperto's report, a more detailed Centro map where I have drawn a path to and from each place I am visiting, personal condoms, and the most important item, I think, a canister of baby wipes for after doing the deed. I don't really care for a piece of toilet paper that is so small, I can't even blow my nose.

Can't wait to see what tomorrow brings............................

ryjer

Welcome to the club. But you forgot another important item(s): toys!

Mr Enternational
12-27-07, 06:47
Hi Fellow Mongers,

Just came back from a three week stay in Rio where as usually I spend most of my time at centaurus.
The bad news is that prices was just raised. As I recall a standard 40 minute program is now R280, a 1 hour program is R500 and my preferred program with two girls for 1 hour is now R900.
Junior

Am I lost here? But you report 40 min as 280 and 1 hour as 500. So the first two sets of 20 min are 140 each but if you want a third 20 minute set it will cost you 220. Who in their right mind is going to pay 220 more for 20 extra minutes? So with the 40 min plan you are paying 7/min and with the hour plan you are paying 8.33/min. Sounds a little bassackwards to me. Kinda works out better if you opt for two back-to-back 40s instead of the hour. Or is it that extra shit (figuratively speaking) is thrown in with the hour plan?

Pipe Layer99
12-27-07, 07:07
We have ingition. New thread is now active. DD


I like the idea of having a separate thread for Non-Pro Garotas. One thread for Non-Pro discussion. That will leave this thread for the other reports.

Donnie

Junior
12-27-07, 10:05
Am I lost here? But you report 40 min as 280 and 1 hour as 500. So the first two sets of 20 min are 140 each but if you want a third 20 minute set it will cost you 220. Who in their right mind is going to pay 220 more for 20 extra minutes? So with the 40 min plan you are paying 7/min and with the hour plan you are paying 8.33/min. Sounds a little bassackwards to me. Kinda works out better if you opt for two back-to-back 40s instead of the hour. Or is it that extra shit (figuratively speaking) is thrown in with the hour plan?


The one hour program is in a (slightly) better and more expensive room, hence the difference. The one hour program has always been more expensive on a per-minute basis.

Junior

Bad Boy Billy
12-27-07, 23:13
Billy spent 8 days in Rio in June 06 - what a blast.

24 hours non stop to get there from Australia - 26 hours non stop to get home.

Sample pic of each girl.

God I LOVE Brazil

Bad Boy Billy
12-27-07, 23:38
Next bunch

Bad Boy Billy
12-27-07, 23:44
Next bunch

Bad Boy Billy
12-27-07, 23:48
The 2 groups of 6 girls were all 'Karla' girls.

I speak not 1 word of Portugese - but alone I arranged a Fiesta - 3 guys - 12 girls in total - 2 groups of 6 at a time at VIP's.

We had first group come at midday to 2pm - 1 hour break - then 2nd group 2pm to 4pm.

BEST DAY OF MY LIFE.

No language skills can make life a little difficult - but if you REALLY want to make it HAPPEN - it is easy.

Java Man
12-28-07, 01:00
All this rumor and innuendo about Alessandra aka Mini Me is very curious and suspect to me. Allow me to defend the Lady, as she is unable to defend herself. These are some serious allegations. But first let me say this: I know her, am acquainted with her, but have never been with her in the biblical sense. (I've seen her around.)
On 12/07/07 Bravo Posted:

Minnie Me is back in town, I saw her last night in Help. Unfortunately, the internet has ruined the girl. She told me last night that dozens of guys have been coming down and telling her how she is the talk of the internet. She actually said Ě am FAMOUS now!! Everyone who comes to Rio wants to find me!`

I thought she was joking at first but she was dead serious, she is really proud of her ´celebrity status`. Along with her star attitude she now charges a minimum of 300R for the night. I was like `Minnie, I was the very first American you ever fucked! I have been paying you 200R for years now!` She said `with a big smile`I know, but I am married now, plus I am famous, so you have to pay 300R! Thats a special rate for you, other guys have to pay more!

I wished her a good evening and told her I am happy I knew her before she became a big star!!

On 12/23 Hitmanm3 repsonded to Bravo's post:

Lets get the story straight about Alessandra. AKA Minnie-me. She is married to a Gringo from Maryland since 2004 but he never came back to get her. She is from contagem Minas Gerald not Belo. How do I know this. My boy from Jersey used to be her main client. He even has stayed at her place in Minas. When I heard the news that she was back I gave him a call. He told me about what happen and why she stold the money. Guys I hope that Mr. Jackson lets you guys read what he told me. She is a time bomb waiting to EXPLODE. He stated that she stold the money because she had to get a series of treatments and test to find out if she had HIV. She turned out to be POSITIVE. When he found out that she was infected he was freaking out even-though he always ***** a condom. He cannot believe she is doing what she is doing with no regards to the out come of others. He turned out negative by the way. I hope we realize how important it is to wear a jimmy. Guys the information that I got is from the horses mouth. So be aware of Minnie-me. She was always cool to be with. But desperation changes people and in a country where a person has no way to make a living but on there backs. Caution and trust mean nothing. And the fact that she has a kid makes her desperate.

$1500USD for an HIV Test??!!

On 12/20/07 Dcsplicer posted a pic of Alessandra at Meia Pattaca

to which Hitmanm3 replied on 12/21/07

Gentlemen be careful of Minnie-me I was informed by a friend she stold money from him. The reason why she was off the scene was due to that. She needed things to cool off. Taking 1500 USD from him while he slept. When he went to pay her he noticed and confronted her so just be aware and let people know. She left in April and she returned back in late Nov. Be aware just letting brothers know what is up with the girl. I haved known her for 4 years and could not believe it at first but the guy is not a lier and has nothing to gain. He was pissed off and when he confronted her she ran out of the apartment and left Rio the same day. Humn. Guilty I would say. Just be careful.
Musta slipped his mind of her being HIV as he failed to mention it in that post.

on 12/25/07 Thanos posted:


That's definitely true about her stealing the money. It was a time when there were not alot of customers in town for her and business was bad so she stole the money. It just goes to show that even girls with good reputations will resort to stealing when their backs are against the wall. We joke around that she escaped through a heating duct. But she also left because she married a guy (being kind) in the states but like most girls who marry foreigners she's right back on the scene.

Where did Thanos get that info?

on 12/26/07 Bravo questioned Hitmanm3's allegation:



Wow dude, thats a really serious allegation!! How does your buddy know for sure that she is HIV positive?
Oddly, I did notice that she had lost a little bit of weight. Matter of fact, i commented on this when I saw her, she just laughed and said she hasnt been getting laid, so she has been very stressed!

Hitmanm3 responded today:

He knows her very well like I mention before and he told me he had himself checked out when she called him to let him know the news. And Bravo how many people lose weight over not having sex. I usually lose weight when iam there not when iam not getting laid. Just be careful. I would not touch anyone who has been pointed out to me as to having hiv. Especially in Rio.

Hitmanm3 and Thanos are relaying hearsay. Where's the first hand account? Doesn't he post here? Not that hard to join. Hitmanm3 could help him out as he joined 12/07/07 and has 7 posts. 6 of which are attacks on Alessandra. (His first post was a three sentence post about Rio after Carnaval.)

If all this is true, why was this information posted as a response to another post? Isn't this the kind of important information that needs to be reported immediately? Are there anymore HIV+, stealing GDP's married to Gringos out there, that we all should avoid?

Today, 12/27/07, Bravo posted beach pics of Alessandra taken 2 weeks ago. She didn't look thin to him.

Seems to me some has a Hardon for Alessandra, and not in a good way.

Bravo
12-28-07, 02:19
Chingon, you hit the nail right on the head!! Something about dude's post makes no sense. I like to use common sense when ever I hear rumors and common sense says his story is fishy!!

She has been married to a guy from Maryland since 2004? Thats strange because I remember her being married to a puerto rican guy and living in NJ for a year! Most guys remember how good her english was when she came back, after living in the states for a year.

What GDP do you know would purposely screwup her cash flow by telling people she is HIV positive? That makes absolutely no sense, considering that she is still working.

My take on the situation. Dude was head over heels in love with her and she decided she would rather hoe than sit at home and wait for him, so he started a nasty rumor to fuck up her money. Now this situation makes alot more sense to me, than Minnie Me going around telling people that she is infected!!

Exec Talent
12-28-07, 03:23
Billy spent 8 days in Rio in June 06 - what a blast.

24 hours non stop to get there from Australia - 26 hours non stop to get home.

Sample pic of each girl.

God I LOVE Brazil

Just shows what you can do in 8 days if you really put your mind (and back) to it. Billy done good!!!

Thanos
12-28-07, 03:29
All this rumor and innuendo about Alessandra aka Mini Me is very curious and suspect to me. Allow me to defend the Lady, as she is unable to defend herself. These are some serious allegations. But first let me say this: I know her, am acquainted with her, but have never been with her in the biblical sense. (I've seen her around.)

On 12/07/07 Bravo Posted:

On 12/23 Hitmanm3 repsonded to Bravo's post:

$1500USD for an HIV Test??!!

On 12/20/07 Dcsplicer posted a pic of Alessandra at Meia Pattaca

to which Hitmanm3 replied on 12/21/07

Musta slipped his mind of her being HIV as he failed to mention it in that post.

On 12/25/07 Thanos posted:

Where did Thanos get that info?

On 12/26/07 Bravo questioned Hitmanm3's allegation:

Hitmanm3 responded today:

Hitmanm3 and Thanos are relaying hearsay. Where's the first hand account? Doesn't he post here? Not that hard to join. Hitmanm3 could help him out as he joined 12/07/07 and has 7 posts. 6 of which are attacks on Alessandra. (His first post was a three sentence post about Rio after Carnaval.)

If all this is true, why was this information posted as a response to another post? Isn't this the kind of important information that needs to be reported immediately? Are there anymore HIV+, stealing GDP's married to Gringos out there, that we all should avoid?

Today, 12/27/07, Bravo posted beach pics of Alessandra taken 2 weeks ago. She didn't look thin to him.

Seems to me some has a Hardon for Alessandra, and not in a good way.If you've been around for awhile you get to know the histories of the girls. Who's on drugs. Who steals. Who promises total night but always gets the emergency call. Just like you hear about who gives good service and who doesn't. I've been doing the Rio thing for over 15 yrs now. I've seen all of the current girls as they walked off the bus and sat in pataca for the first time. I remember mini me when she barely charged 100R. Before she had clothes good enough to get into Help. If you don't want to think that some of the girls steal unless you catch them red handed that's up to you. But I can remember when the alleged theft first occured and how she suddenly disappeared from copa. The guy was going around saying she robbed him and with her sudden disappearance it totally made sense. As far as aids. Who knows? That's something that has to be proven. As far as stealing. I'd take the word of just about any monger if they accused one of these girls of stealing. They are all capable of it.

Thanos
12-28-07, 03:45
Chingon, you hit the nail right on the head! Something about dude's post makes no sense. I like to use common sense when ever I hear rumors and common sense says his story is fishy!

She has been married to a guy from Maryland since 2004? Thats strange because I remember her being married to a puerto rican guy and living in NJ for a year! Most guys remember how good her english was when she came back, after living in the states for a year.

What GDP do you know would purposely screwup her cash flow by telling people she is HIV positive? That makes absolutely no sense, considering that she is still working. My take on the situation. Dude was head over heels in love with her and she decided she would rather hoe than sit at home and wait for him, so he started a nasty rumor to fuck up her money. Now this situation makes alot more sense to me, than Minnie Me going around telling people that she is infected! The only thing fishy is guys defending the actions of a prostitute they know nothing about. The fact that you pulled out the, "I was the first" line is hilarious in itself. It just shows how little you really know her. NO girl charged 200R when they first started 3, 4, 5 years ago. When she first started and was known only as "the midget" she was a 100R girl for tln. Of course she'll never tell you that because that's bad for business. The fact that she's married and still tricking in Copa should tell you all you need to know about her.

Chi Town Hustler
12-28-07, 05:41
All this rumor and innuendo about Alessandra aka Mini Me is very curious and suspect to me. Allow me to defend the Lady, as she is unable to defend herself. These are some serious allegations. But first let me say this: I know her, am acquainted with her, but have never been with her in the biblical sense. (I've seen her around.)

On 12/07/07 Bravo Posted:

On 12/23 Hitmanm3 repsonded to Bravo's post:

$1500USD for an HIV Test??!!

On 12/20/07 Dcsplicer posted a pic of Alessandra at Meia Pattaca

to which Hitmanm3 replied on 12/21/07

Musta slipped his mind of her being HIV as he failed to mention it in that post.

on 12/25/07 Thanos posted:

Where did Thanos get that info?

on 12/26/07 Bravo questioned Hitmanm3's allegation:

Hitmanm3 responded today:

Hitmanm3 and Thanos are relaying hearsay. Where's the first hand account? Doesn't he post here? Not that hard to join. Hitmanm3 could help him out as he joined 12/07/07 and has 7 posts. 6 of which are attacks on Alessandra. (His first post was a three sentence post about Rio after Carnaval.)

If all this is true, why was this information posted as a response to another post? Isn't this the kind of important information that needs to be reported immediately? Are there anymore HIV+, stealing GDP's married to Gringos out there, that we all should avoid?

Today, 12/27/07, Bravo posted beach pics of Alessandra taken 2 weeks ago. She didn't look thin to him.

Seems to me some has a Hardon for Alessandra, and not in a good way.I am acquainted with Mini Me also and I saw and spoke her several times in August at MIA COCKA and HELP and I saw and spoke with her again in November at MIA COCKA. She looked the same to me if anything she would have gotten bigger from the drugs she was taking for HIV like Magic Johnson.

It's another girl in HELP people where saying that she was HIV positive because she was getting bigger and she disappeared from ground zero for a while but the truth is she was pregnant and had a baby.

A dude is the originator of that rumor on her because he clashed with a fellow Ho Dogg because of her...you know he had some HO Love and got his feelings hurt so he started talking shit.

It could be true about Mini Me but most of the time some HO or some broken hearted Ho Dogg is behind the rumors.

Pipe Layer99
12-28-07, 09:36
Who cares! I mean really. We all go down there for fun. Let it go already.
If you want her (minnie me) - wrap it up, same as you would with any GDP. If not, there are plenty more to choose from.

Lets get back to real reports about personal experiences.

Abzsafado
12-28-07, 14:44
Significant Other is accomapnying me to Rio for Carnival. What are the best live sex shows and strip bars, and what time does the action start?
Best show in a strip club is Franks Bar. It's expensive if you buy the girls drinks but for you and your girl it would be okay. Show starts around 1am get there for 12.30 if you want a good seat.

Abzsafado
12-28-07, 14:52
The 2 groups of 6 girls were all 'Karla' girls.

I speak not 1 word of Portugese - but alone I arranged a Fiesta - 3 guys - 12 girls in total - 2 groups of 6 at a time at VIP's.

We had first group come at midday to 2pm - 1 hour break - then 2nd group 2pm to 4pm.

BEST DAY OF MY LIFE.

No language skills can make life a little difficult - but if you REALLY want to make it HAPPEN - it is easy.

How much were the festas? Did they try to charge extra for 6 girls in VIP's?
Great pictures. Good to see someone using the forum for what its meant for.

Bravo
12-28-07, 15:35
The only thing fishy is guys defending the actions of a prostitute they know nothing about. The fact that you pulled out the, "I was the first" line is hilarious in itself. It just shows how little you really know her. NO girl charged 200R when they first started 3, 4, 5 years ago. When she first started and was known only as "the midget" she was a 100R girl for tln. Of course she'll never tell you that because that's bad for business. The fact that she's married and still tricking in Copa should tell you all you need to know about her.


Lets not get into a pissing contest over this thing. (Just so you know, I knew Minnie back when she used to work the corner, doing car dates for 30R outside of Barbarellas)

Let me repeat. The best thing for all us mongers is to go to Rio pressuming that EVERY girl has an STD. We have to wrap up no matter how long we have known these girls.

Leblon
12-28-07, 21:15
First of all, congratulations for Bad Boy Billy for really excellent fotos. You are our hero.

Secondly, has anyone heard about this girl that he has taken picture??:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=86410

If I remember right name was Carla/Graziela ??, she is Niteroi girl.
She has been away from scene long time.

Actually I can guess where she is, working somewhere in Europe, Italy probably and coming back only for Carneval, like so many of the best girls :-(

But I liked her, so if somebody has information it would be nice to know.

Hitmanm3
12-28-07, 21:18
Lets not get into a pissing contest over this thing. (Just so you know, I knew Minnie back when she used to work the corner, doing car dates for 30R outside of Barbarellas)

Let me repeat. The best thing for all us mongers is to go to Rio pressuming that EVERY girl has an STD. We have to wrap up no matter how long we have known these girls.I agree 100% so be smart.

Sunset
12-29-07, 00:27
...Minime

Bow wow.

eos

Sunset
12-29-07, 00:34
Anything hot?

Anhthing new?

I'm on the ground waiting from someone who's not just wacking willie in the wrong hemisphere.

Tell me..

I'll tell you.

Bad Boy Billy
12-29-07, 03:57
First of all, congratulations for Bad Boy Billy for really excellent fotos. You are our hero.

Secondly, has anyone heard about this girl that he has taken picture??:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=86410

If I remember right name was Carla/Graziela ??, she is Niteroi girl.
She has been away from scene long time.

Actually I can guess where she is, working somewhere in Europe, Italy probably and coming back only for Carneval, like so many of the best girls :-(

But I liked her, so if somebody has information it would be nice to know.

Billy is not anybody's hero - this FABULOUS thread - like so many others - gets bogged down in shit.

I only went to Rio with no language skills at all - but a huge apetite for pussy - look what can be achieved.

Go there - try - enjoy.

Here are some pics of my only other trip to Rio - in Sept 2005 - this time only 6 days

Bad Boy Billy
12-29-07, 04:04
Next bunch

Bad Boy Billy
12-29-07, 04:08
And on way back to Australia had 8 hour layover in Buenos Aires - so what do you do?

You get a cab and go and fuck a couple of Argentinians that what you do.

One would not allow pics - the other did.

Bad Boy Billy
12-29-07, 04:11
First of all, congratulations for Bad Boy Billy for really excellent fotos. You are our hero.

Secondly, has anyone heard about this girl that he has taken picture??:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=86410

If I remember right name was Carla/Graziela ??, she is Niteroi girl.
She has been away from scene long time.

Actually I can guess where she is, working somewhere in Europe, Italy probably and coming back only for Carneval, like so many of the best girls :-(

But I liked her, so if somebody has information it would be nice to know.

I picked up this girl within 5 minutes of being in Rio - walked into MP - pulled her aside - agreed to R100 for 2 hours - I thought anal was included - but not so.

That was the ONLY time on my second visit that 100% of services were not clarified prior to closing the deal.

Still she was very young and very tasty - DELICIOUS.

Bad Boy Billy
12-29-07, 04:13
How much were the festas? Did they try to charge extra for 6 girls in VIP's?
Great pictures. Good to see someone using the forum for what its meant for.

OK not 100% sure on details.

12 Karla girls at R100ea.

Not sure on room rate - ALL UP - including drinks, snacks, pussy, room etc was US$1,200 in June 2006.

Split 3 ways - US$400 for each of us.

BEST $400 I HAVE EVER SPENT.

JohnnyBraz
12-29-07, 09:14
I am acquainted with Mini Me also and I saw and spoke her several times in August at MIA COCKA and HELP and I saw and spoke with her again in November at MIA COCKA. She looked the same to me if anything she would have gotten bigger from the drugs she was taking for HIV like Magic Johnson.

It's another girl in HELP people where saying that she was HIV positive because she was getting bigger and she disappeared from ground zero for a while but the truth is she was pregnant and had a baby.

A dude is the originator of that rumor on her because he clashed with a fellow Ho Dogg because of her...you know he had some HO Love and got his feelings hurt so he started talking shit.

It could be true about Mini Me but most of the time some HO or some broken hearted Ho Dogg is behind the rumors.Regardless off her HIV state. It seems obvious 2 me that she robbed a man, so it shows she has the morals off someone with HIV. Who else would ruin there buisness unless there desparate. I'll be staying well away from her in my 3 week visit in Feb.

Edward M
12-29-07, 16:52
I would like just suggest a very nice and cheap aparthotel in Rio located in the corner between Sigueira campos and Barata Ribeiro.

The appartaments are small but confortable in a modern bulding provvided of swimmingpool.

The location is 5 minutes from Help disco and beach and includes kitchen and living room with a small terace.

Cost per day is 130 Reais (december 2007)

For booking you my contact Miss Cacilda Galhardo Tel.(21) 25488323

cacilda@vialink.com.br

Have a fun,

JobimJobim,

Are you sure that email is correct? I tried sending her a note and it got rejected.

Thanks.

El Austriaco
12-29-07, 21:18
It seems obvious 2 me that she robbed a man, so it shows she has the morals off someone with HIV. Who else would ruin there buisness unless there desparate.
Regardless of HIV-positive or not, I think everyone would be well advised to consider the possibility that ANY of the usual Copa girls will rob you if you just give them the chance and they think they stand a good chance of getting away with it. No exceptions.

That's exactly why I think that it's recommendable to either do girls on-site (termas) or at lovel motels. For the TLN experience, everyone should seriously garota-proof their surroundings, whether at their hotel or apartment. Even more so in the latter case, of course.

Remember that opportunities creates thieves (and temptation, too, I might add). You give a girl that is willing to fuck for money a chance to get her hands at more money by fucking you over, chances are she won't be able to resist the temptation... at times.

Asking "why would anyone ruin their business unless they're desperate" makes sense... but that's not the thinking of a typical garota. Their mindset is more like "well, if you are stupid enough to let yourself get robbed, you don't deserve to have it in the first place... I do." And like in most Latin countries, in many many cases, long-term business thinking tends to be thrown out the window as soon as a good short-term opportunity comes up. This is a classic example of first-world vs. third-world thinking.

So even if Mini-Me actually stole from someone, I don't think that would be an uncommon occurrence with GDPs. The safest thing is to assume that ALL of them can rob you and to protect yourself accordingly (just like it would be safe to assume ALL of them can give you a nasty disease and protect yourself accordingly, too).

EA

RonnyRon
12-30-07, 00:04
Your festas was a great success! Thanks for all the photos and the pricing.

RR

Bad Boy Billy
12-30-07, 05:59
Your festas was a great success! Thanks for all the photos and the pricing.

RR

No problems mate.

I am just so jealous of you guys living in either Nth America or Sth America.

YES Australia is on Asias doostep - I go to China 6 to 8 times each year - YES I can stop off in Philippines or Indonesia or Thailand to and from Australia.

BUT

No *****s ANYWHERE - and I really mean ANYWHERE - are as good as the Brazilian *****s.

Australia to Brazil is such a LONG way to travel however you do it.

First trip I went Melbourne - Sydney - Los Angeles - Sao Paulo - Rio returning Rio - Buenos Aires - Washington - Los Angeles - Sydney - Melbourne.

Second trip Melbourne - Auckland - Santiago (Chile) - Sao Paulo Rio returning Rio - Sao Paulo - Santiago - Auckland - Sydney - Melbourne.

And all you Nth American guys have to do is jump on a daily direct flight to Rio - god I am so envious.

Still that is why when I do get there I make it a memorable excxursion - planning 2 trips this year - June and September.

Will probably be looking for 2 fellow 'male *****s' to join me in another Fiesta as I will be travelling alone.

Also am just dying to ex[perience 'Villa Mimosa' - Billy is quite fearless but with not 1 word of Port skills I do not carry a death wish - so will be looking to hook up with someone who does speak the lingo when the time comes.

Will post a not as it gets closer.

Keep up the reporting guys - no negative shit - just details on *****s, locations and prices please.

Jesuscola
12-30-07, 14:44
Regardless of HIV-positive or not, I think everyone would be well advised to consider the possibility that ANY of the usual Copa girls will rob you if you just give them the chance and they think they stand a good chance of getting away with it. No exceptions.

That's exactly why I think that it's recommendable to either do girls on-site (termas) or at lovel motels. For the TLN experience, everyone should seriously garota-proof their surroundings, whether at their hotel or apartment. Even more so in the latter case, of course.

Remember that opportunities creates thieves (and temptation, too, I might add). You give a girl that is willing to fuck for money a chance to get her hands at more money by fucking you over, chances are she won't be able to resist the temptation... at times.

Asking "why would anyone ruin their business unless they're desperate" makes sense... but that's not the thinking of a typical garota. Their mindset is more like "well, if you are stupid enough to let yourself get robbed, you don't deserve to have it in the first place... I do." And like in most Latin countries, in many many cases, long-term business thinking tends to be thrown out the window as soon as a good short-term opportunity comes up. This is a classic example of first-world vs. third-world thinking.

So even if Mini-Me actually stole from someone, I don't think that would be an uncommon occurrence with GDPs. The safest thing is to assume that ALL of them can rob you and to protect yourself accordingly (just like it would be safe to assume ALL of them can give you a nasty disease and protect yourself accordingly, too).

EA

Well said, and 100% correct.

There's a guy I see every day. He sells popsicles on the street. He's always smiling, seems happy. Every day for the last year or so. And just last week, I thought, "He seems like a decent enough guy. He'd probably stab me in the ass for a quarter, given half a chance, but he seems like a decent guy."

That's the attitude you acquire when you're here a lot. I don't care how you know them, how long, or how well, you learn that you should always keep one eye on them. There are exceptions, of course, but they're fairly rare...

Carrib
12-30-07, 16:51
BBB--

good to see that you've resurrected your pics from the other board...

Yep--Brazil is second to none but the current exchange rate is keeping me away

Parkwood1116
12-30-07, 19:30
Hey monger brothers,

I work for an airlines and obviously travel for free or at a minimal. I plan on going to Rio on 26 FEB 08 but there is only one flight per day to Rio on the airline that I plan on traveling on. I was wondering was there a shuttle from GRU ( Sao Paulo) to GIG ( Rio) and if so who runs it? How much? And how often do they run. Since I would have no problem getting into Sao Paulo.

Bad Boy Billy
12-30-07, 22:32
BBB--

good to see that you've resurrected your pics from the other board...

Yep--Brazil is second to none but the current exchange rate is keeping me away

Yes mate - I miss that board so much.

Have actually spent time with Disco, Wes, Xman in Angeles City recently.

Also spent a couple of days in Beijing with Disco.

Speaking of Beijing guys - YES I know this is the Rio board - but Billy does not like to come on a board and leave NOTHING in terms of contribution.

Apart from Brazilian *****s - Billy's favourite 'livestock' are Mongoilian *****s - to be found in droves in Maggies Bar in Beijing (Second best bar in the world - Help being best).

Mongolians are maybe a tad softer and a little more gentle than Brazilians - same total GFE - but with a subtle mix of '*****ness'.

All totally white - but plenty tall ones.

Just a sample for you guys - US$150 all night - 22yo fashion design student - BUT - Brazil still RULES.

Rodeo9112
12-30-07, 23:27
Gents,

Looking to take the plunge and hit Brazil sometime in 2008. Planning a trip with 3 other dudes and, while first inclination is to hit Rio, I was wondering if Rio is in fact the best place in Brazil for mongering (note, none of us speak Portuguese, though will take intensive language courses before the trip). Also, trying to find out the best time of year to visit...don't want to go during the rainy season, but, if that will lend to better prices, then maybe we could go toward the end of the season if it would be worth it. First inclination is to go during Carnivale, but, I don't want to be competing with Every other horny bastard in the world for the quality girls.

I know that the dollar is falling against the Brazilian currency and that the girls are a little more demanding nowadays due to the demand for them by us mongers, but, I do want to visit this coming year.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

Rodeo

Pelicano
12-31-07, 02:17
Hello Parkwood1116;

You might try Gol airlines web site:

http://www.voegol.com.br/

also Ocean Air has some flights;

http://www.oceanair.com.br/empresa/default_pers.asp


good luck; pelicano



Hey monger brothers,
I was wondering was there a shuttle from GRU ( Sao Paulo) to GIG ( Rio) and if so who runs it? How much? And how often do they run. Since I would have no problem getting into Sao Paulo.

El Austriaco
12-31-07, 02:38
Planning a trip with 3 other dudes and, while first inclination is to hit Rio, I was wondering if Rio is in fact the best place in Brazil for mongering (note, none of us speak Portuguese, though will take intensive language courses before the trip).
I think that for a first trip, especially if you don't speak any or very little Portuguese, Rio is the way to go. Can't beat around-the-clock point-and-click action even for the language-impaired.


Also, trying to find out the best time of year to visit...don't want to go during the rainy season, but, if that will lend to better prices, then maybe we could go toward the end of the season if it would be worth it. First inclination is to go during Carnivale, but, I don't want to be competing with Every other horny bastard in the world for the quality girls.
Obviously, different preferences will lead to different opinions as to what is the best time to go. IMHO, you are competing with everyone for the "quality girls" (whatever that may be) any time of the year, anyway, and there are more than enough girls to go around for every other horny bastard even during off-season. And considering that during Carnaval, prices easily triple for everything, I personally think that it's the worst time of the year to go... but then again, Carnaval sure is a once-in-a-lifetime experience not be missed). I personally prefer the off-season (Brazilian winter, where freelancer prices certainly are way cheaper than during high-season), and April/May are perfect, too: it's not as hot any more, not as expensive anymore, and there are still enough girls hanging around from Carnaval times to have plenty of choice. But that's me.


I know that the dollar is falling against the Brazilian currency and that the girls are a little more demanding nowadays due to the demand for them by us mongers, but, I do want to visit this coming year.
I don't think the girls are more demanding now "due to demand by mongers": more than anything, girls will always try to demand top price from whatever inexperienced monger they come across. It's just up to you to negotiate well, and reading this board should give you a good idea of the current price range and the tactics mongers use to effectively negotiate girls down. What certainly has changed, IMHO, is that for us dollar-based mongers, their prices have become way more expensive than, say, three or four years ago. As long as you are flexible in your options (not just stick to Help or Meia Pataca) and willing to explore beyond Copacabana, Rio still offers a great service/price ratio, certainly much better than anywhere in the US or in Europe, for that matter.

Hope this helps,

EA

Looking For Eden
12-31-07, 02:47
Gents,

Looking to take the plunge and hit Brazil sometime in 2008. Planning a trip with 3 other dudes and, while first inclination is to hit Rio, I was wondering if Rio is in fact the best place in Brazil for mongering (note, none of us speak Portuguese, though will take intensive language courses before the trip). Also, trying to find out the best time of year to visit...don't want to go during the rainy season, but, if that will lend to better prices, then maybe we could go toward the end of the season if it would be worth it. First inclination is to go during Carnivale, but, I don't want to be competing with Every other horny bastard in the world for the quality girls.

I know that the dollar is falling against the Brazilian currency and that the girls are a little more demanding nowadays due to the demand for them by us mongers, but, I do want to visit this coming year.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

RodeoNo offense to Rio mongers but I prefer Salvador, Recife and Natal to Rio. Off the gringo path is where I like to stay. I don't like running into other Americans on my trip, makes me feel like I'm not getting away, like Costa Rica. If you do like that then Rio would be perfect for you. I have been to Brazil in both the rainy and dry seasons and if you like to go to the beach then stick with the dry season. It will outweigh any money you may save in the long run imo. Also I don't like Carnaval but I think it should be experienced at least once. Too many people for my liking. I don't like big crowds and I had my pockets picked once. I had a shitty watch and a travel wallet in them so it was no big deal. Some of those guys are pretty crafty. The prices are insane also for Carnaval. Every hotel I talked to wanted double the price at least. In Recife they start taking reservations for next years Carnaval right after the current one ends, so you need to book your reservation way in advance if you don't want to pay gringo prices.Still, it was an experience I will never forget.

Rodeo9112
12-31-07, 03:54
Thanks Austriaco! Question...when is the "Brazilian Winter" you mentioned?

Rodeo

Chris H
12-31-07, 04:58
Hey monger brothers,

I work for an airlines and obviously travel for free or at a minimal. I plan on going to Rio on 26 FEB 08 but there is only one flight per day to Rio on the airline that I plan on traveling on. I was wondering was there a shuttle from GRU ( Sao Paulo) to GIG ( Rio) and if so who runs it? How much? And how often do they run. Since I would have no problem getting into Sao Paulo.

Who do you work for? More than likely you can get a ZED fare ticket to use from GRU to GIG. I did that my 1st time I went to GIG. The ZED ticket is real cheap, I believe less than $80 RT.

Chris H

World Travel 69
12-31-07, 05:41
It costs about $35. $40. But of course that was in May. Prices may have gone up as the Dollar goes down.
I forget which airline. Maybe Tam or Gol. I was to fly from Sao Paulo to Rio. Something like leaving at 12 noon and getting in around 2pm.
http://www.tam.com.br/b2c/jsp/default.jhtml
http://www.gol.com.br/



Hey monger brothers,

I work for an airlines and obviously travel for free or at a minimal. I plan on going to Rio on 26 FEB 08 but there is only one flight per day to Rio on the airline that I plan on traveling on. I was wondering was there a shuttle from GRU ( Sao Paulo) to GIG ( Rio) and if so who runs it? How much? And how often do they run. Since I would have no problem getting into Sao Paulo.