2007 Rio de Janeiro Reports [Archive] - Page 5

RxHammer

06-01-07, 00:52

Hey Guys,

Just got back from 5 weeks in Rio. Rented a place thru Gringomanagement, no complaints. Had a great time as usual but gotta say that with the weak dollar it has gotten expensive, especially if you stick to the usual Copa playgound. Some random observations....

Monte Carlo...went a few times and talent is very average. Place has sunk since the old manager Marcio left. If you go look for Agatha, 18yrs old, dark skin,small top but great bunda and smile. Very good in the cabina, great attitude. Also, Samantha. Not as cute as Agatha but also great in the cabina. She's a morena with a nice tan.

L'uomo....talent level a little better than MC. Ran into Luana from MC. She is beautiful and very talented. She has a different name at L'uomo that escapes me at the moment(?). Had a session with her girlfriend (Mary Ann ??) and she was a PORNSTAR. Anything and everything you want. Great attitude and wanting to please! Popped twice in one hour. I didn't experience any attitude/problems from staff or girls as reported by some mongers...

Centauras....price is now 330R (cash) or 345R (credit). I personally love this place and know many, many of the girls but the price/dollar has priced them out of everyday reach. If you go look for Andressa. Had 2 freebies with her after hours. Laura, outstanding. Best breast I have EVER seen !!! They are perfect as is the rest of her body. Actually met her at Help my first night and took her home for my FIRST Help freebie ever !! Went to see her at Centauras and she followed up with 2 more freebies later in the week. Absolutely great GFE. She had a nose job (broken when she was a kid) 3 weeks ago but should be back on the job.....overall, love Centauras but the price ???? Crazy.

Cancun....went on a wednesday on recommendation from a couple of guys. Must have been a slow night, 15 average/below average girls that were near comatose. Left without a session. Went to soccer game and had more fun (lol). I'll wait and try a few more times before passing final judgement...

Help.....very slow the past few weeks. Saturday & Sunday are ok but the rest of the week was the slowest I've seen in 30+ trips to Rio. Fewer girls means harder to find a gem but prices are better. I never paid over 200R for TLN for a babydoll. Look for Camilla,blonde, 4'10'' and 85lbs of GFE fun. Great in the sack with a near perfect BBBJ. Lookout for the half japanese chick, she has a temper (broke my friends cellphone when he didn't pay what she wanted) Also, Julianna. IMHO, prettiest/sexiest girl in Help. 21 yr old morena with straight brown hair to her waist, great dancer, very nice girl, at Help almost everynight but doesn't look/act hardcore. Entrance fee of 33R after midnight is getting expensive and of course almost all the girls want RedBull/vodka to drink at 19R a round vs. 3R for a beer so make sure she's worth it first (lol !!).

Food is getting expensive too. Great lunches at the place on the corner next to Monte Carlo...7R for a big, good lunch from 11am to 4pm Monday thru Friday. Went to Maurius in Lemme for seafood, 123R plus another 36R for desert plus your drink tab. Good food but WAY TOO much for what you get. Look for the cheap Kilo places or ask around for the places that run daily specials if you want good food at good prices.

Metro....best value in Rio for getting around the city. Never felt out of place or concerned for safety...

Beach.....had a bad experience with a guy at a Copa barraca. His name is Douglas and works at Lubato's in front of the Othon Palace. Avoid this rip off. Now this is not young Douglas (22yrs/brother of Mario the tattoo guy) that speaks good english and works at Lubato's sometimes. It's the OTHER Douglas at Lubato's. Anyway, went to beach on a Sunday...2 small chais,table, lunch (fish from Monaco) and about 20 beers....he wanted 283R !! Now, normally I avoid Copa beach because of this type of shit. I ended up paying 200R and will NEVER use this barraca again. This after I bought this guy beers at the free concert the week before. Live and learn...
Marcelo's barraca in front of Cesear Park hotel in Ipanema is a great place to hangout and he's a stand up guy, been using him each trip for 5+ years and no complaints....

Rio is my favorite destination in the world but the dollar is dead so it'll be awhile before I go back....never thought I'd say THAT !! SE Asia, Colombian look like better value at this time (overall)....

Stay safe,

Hammer

Almotu

06-01-07, 00:54

Nuthin U can do about it except make more money to support "da habit". I am trying to get paid in Euros!

May I remind you of my previous post . . . http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=589599&postcount=1003

Bandy

06-01-07, 00:55

Am I the only person here concerned that this time last year the real was at 2.35/ dollar? ......
I was in Rio last April. The exchange rate was 2.12 R/ USD.

Your other observation is correct. The garotas are quoting higher prices than that of last year. It is the same case in Argentina, although there USD will go a long way. Current exchange rate 3.07 Peso/ USD.

Bandy

Mr Enternational

06-01-07, 02:02

Am I the only person here concerned that this time last year the real was at 2.35/ dollar? 1.95 Now? I dont want to sound petty (even though I do) but what happened to the "surge" that was supposed to take place after Carnival? What the hell?! Did the real get on steriods? Ethanol to blame? A boom in tourism? What? I only inquire because it seems to me that over the past 7 years prices quoted for the sport in BRAZIL have actually INCREASED. This is punani inflation!First, the prices of the hobby have not really increased over the past few years. It only seems to you to have increased because you are trying to compare it to your home currency when you should only be looking at it in terms of reais. When you look at it in reais you undoubtedly see that the prices have been flat.

Second, why be concerned if there is nothing you can do about it? Also, why would you think there would be a surge in the dollar against the real after Carnaval? Carnaval does not control exchange rates. Exchange rates are determined by the demand and supply of one currency relative to that of another. The trend lines say that the Brazilian real has been rising against the dollar, euro, and pound for the last several years. So, superficially, it is the demand of more reais than you can shake a stick at, which is outstripping the supply of them. On the other hand, the supply of the other three currencies is greater than the demand for them (when compared to reais).

The explanation of the concept is not cut and dry. As a matter of fact, economist do not even agree on every aspect. But what they do agree on is that a country's 1) price inflation, 2) interest rate, and 3) market psychology all have an important impact on exchange rate movements. The trend lines tend to say that the reason for the real's increase against the other currencies is not because of something that that the USA , mainland Europe, or Great Britain has done or not done, but it is instead because of something that Brazil has been doing in contrast to the other 3.

A look at the Central Bank of Brazil's interest rate trend has rates dropping from 16% this time last year to 12. 5% at present. The Bank of England's interest rate for the same period has risen from 4. 5% to 5. 5%. The European Central Bank's interest rate has risen from 2. 5% to 3. 75%. And the Fed's rate has risen from 4. 94% to 5. 25%.

The inflation rate in Brazil has also drastically decreased over the last several years. This means that Brazil has gotten a better control than it had before (2003, 2004) of the quantity of reais that it has in circulation as directly compared to its output of goods and services.

So, as much as we would like to, we can not blame George Bush, the war in Iraq, European mongers, or Martians from outer space for the real's current trend of gaining against the other currencies. From my professional understanding, the only one who can be blamed for turning Brazil's economy around is Lula's government.

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Lennox

06-01-07, 02:31

I had a fun time in Rio in May, but there was one notable bad experience. I met a girl at Help, young looking (maybe 20 to 21) petite and pretty girl who called herself Juliana. Unfortunately I do not have a photo of the Garota in question, but if you encounter her don't except a very nice evening. When she got back to my place she asked for the money up front (I KNOW, I KNOW NEVER GIVE THE MONEY UP FRONT) then after receiving the money and staying for about 30 minutes she got a phone call and claimed her mother was in the hospital. She not only said this in broken english but showed pictures of her and began to cry. Who am I to argue with that, so I said ok go see your Mom. Plus she was not good at all in bed, very bad service...just not into it at all. Some friends I knew who were still at Help said they saw her there 10 minutes later after she left to see her supposedly badly hurt mother who she said was stabbed in the face!

It's one thing to lie but to make up such an elaborate story about your own mother? really twisted.... Wow some of these girls really will say anything! This was the only notable bad experience during the trip, I'll be posting more in depth about the positive experieinces. In short this reaffirms the obvious:. A. NEVER PAY UP FRONT. B. get TO KNOW THEM BETTER FIRST! I pulled her out of there without taking time to talk to her because another guy told me she was "great" ...but he was drunk...so I really wasn't getting a very informed opinion.

When I saw her the next night I asked her about her Mom she said nothing...oh well funny thing is there was two other guys she was zeroed in on who I told the story to and we had a good laugh and they were glad I saved them some money for the night.

Member #4378

06-01-07, 02:40

It was interesting to read Wikipedia information about HELP

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help_Discoteca

Lennox

06-01-07, 02:44

Lennox

06-01-07, 02:46

It was interesting to read Wikipedia information about HELP

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help_Discoteca

Wikipedia is wrong that the girls come primary from Favelas. Most of these girls live in apartments and make well above the average Brazilian salary.

Mr Enternational

06-01-07, 03:53

Wikipedia is wrong that the girls come primary from Favelas. Most of these girls live in apartments and make well above the average Brazilian salary.In that case whoever posted it was wrong. I have already corrected it as far as spelling and saying that it is South America's largest disco/nightclub. Lennox you can have the duty of changing the favela part if you would like.

Shemp

06-01-07, 06:27

Does anyone know if cafe 400 in Barra has reopened, business as usual, since the raid out there a couple of weeks ago?

I checked out Rio Tropical Club in Jacarepagua on my last trip & was hoping to see the blondes in Barra this time.

shemp

Brugal8

06-01-07, 06:49

Shemp,

They are open business as usual.

Sperto

06-01-07, 07:27

Wikipedia is wrong that the girls come primary from Favelas. Most of these girls live in apartments and make well above the average Brazilian salary.
Not to mention they usually have academic degrees, are multilingual and frequent church every sunday. :)

The majority of the Help girls are coming from the favelas or bairros in Zona Norte. Surprisingly many comes from Duque de Caxias. Some Help girls might share apartments with their colleagues, in Copacabana.

Remember, living in a favela doesn't necessary mean anything bad. Most of the people living there are just regular people like your porteiro, the policeman, the cashier girl in the supermercado, the guy selling beer on the beach and the GPs.

Jan 156

06-01-07, 09:05

covered in this report: uruguaiana 24, aquarius, vila mimosa
also mentioned: conceicio 116a, mayrink veiga 30, rua acre 120, rua acre 35, mf1, florida, rua carioca 59.
non-monger stuff: samba city
other matters: vitamins, getting around town, adapting your day

remember these reports are personal and shouldn’t be taken as gospel. a different time, a different day, a different set of coincidences – your experience of them could be totally different.

i get off the metro at presidente vargas station. uruguaiana is just as close, but vargas puts me on the right side of the pr.vargas superhighway and makes a change. i want to explore some more of the places in the north of centro. i pause for a red bull and some pork scratchings at a nondescript bar and aimlessly watch some of last night’s football on the tv overhead. i walk onto floriano, browsing the shops i’ve not seen before and snapping a photo of a picturesque old building on the corner of rua camarino.

conceicio 116a
conceicio is a small street and easy to miss. as i turn off floriano into it, a jukebox blares i will survive. it’s early afternoon. i find conceicio 116a and go up the small flights of stairs, ignore the reception at the top and cross back along the landing to two small rooms. they face onto the street. one has a pole dancing stage. of the maybe 8 girls there (at 1.10pm), only one is do-able. she looks so bored it could be contagious. i leave. the stairs are still wet from what must have passed fro a wash. it looks like a mimosa casa on a bad day. conceicao opens out onto a small square adjoining presidente vargas – quite handy from the station now i know where it is. i pop back in to see what time it closes. midnight – probably looks a lot better after dark.

mayrink veiga 30
at 1.25pm, mf1 (marechal floriano 1) is still shut. i cross over santa rita square past the flower stall and newsstands. ahead is the pedestrianised restaurant area, covered with tarpaulins after the rains of last night. but i turn right into mayrink veiga. there are two entrances for mv30. one is a restaurant and the other is a stair with a smoked glass door decorated with tell-tale visa and mastercard logos. i guess this is it. i go up to the reception. they want 10r entrance. a cabin costs 90r for 30mins but i decide to stay clothed and look around first. it’s nice and clean but the bar area is too dimly lit for my liking. do uvs and low lights make the girls feel comfier about ugly customers? it sure as hell makes it harder to see who you’re gonna sit next to. i play safe and grab a seat at the bar. nicole, a new girl (i am told) who has shown me to the bar, is quite pretty – looks about 19 - but seems out of her depth and i’m in no mood to break her in (i feel dozy and emotionally tired as well after rumpuses in nogueira – not all connected with me – honest!) she disappears. a tidy-looking blonde girl, bruna, comes along and does a reasonable attempt at conversation while fondling my dick through my trousers. it gets hard quite soon so i rub a finger up and down her clit through her panties. letting my hand wander, i confirm she has a nice tight bum. but for some reason i didn’t fancy spending half an hour’s worth on her right now. fifteen minutes with an option to extend would have been cool. i say i’ll call back later. (i do call back in a little while but she is busy – i didn’t see any ugly girls in this place but i did want a little chemistry, at least this early in the day. seven out of 9 girls are welded to a telenovella and only go into action schmoozing some customers as it finishes – all a tiny bit too pat. and nicole reappears but does not have the bubble-wrap niceties off as smoothly as you would expect at these prices.) i do stop to get the phone number though (so i can check if she’s available next time). it’s 2233-6865

rua acre 120
i pop into rua acre which is just round the corner. this street has several termas covering the spectrum pretty well. also ones in the side streets off it in both directions. i go up the stairs of r.acre 120. this place is near the city end of acre and also close to leandro martins (see earlier post). at the top of the stairs most of the girls are sitting in a sunlit office eating lunch. at least two do-ables. i pretend to be more interested in the food. one young girl is stark naked. she acts fairly oblivious to me looking her up and down. very cute. shaved pussy. but i’m not getting a touchy feely vibe. or maybe mv has spoilt me to want posher surroundings? i head off to florida (which is near the top end of r.acre) – i’ve never been there during the day. i pass aquarius on the right, which looks barely open. r.acre 35 doesn’t even have the shutters up. arrive at florida but it is closed (memo to self – maybe that’s why you’ve never been here during the day, duh.)

the north zone isn’t doing it for me at this particular moment. i want quantity. lots of options laid before me in naked or semi-naked glory. enticing and low cost, low effort, all for my delectation. i cross presidente vargas.

uruguaiana 24
as i wander down the metro side of rio branco i´m given a flyer for quitanda 81 (mon-fri, 2pm-10pm). can i be bothered with another faffy upmarket one? nope. b.a., uru and carioca are nice and close, on this side of the rio branco, and more what i am looking for right now. quick look in buenos aries 85. a girl i am supposed to recognize from a year ago strikes a huff to get my attention (i remember the ones that were really good, so am not too bothered, but try to make a game of it till i get a smile.) end of ba and left down uruguaiana, past the three-hat-trick gamesters and the ´hands-free´ puppet man. when i get to uru24, the stair hidden behind the last newsstand before carioca, i am transfixed at the 2nd floor. i don’t know if i have seen this girl before, but she seems mighty pleased to see me. she plays with my dick through my trousers and ireturn the compliment to find she is nekkid under her tiny slip of a skirt. she laughs at my surprise and proudly displays what i have inadvertently discovered. it’s a pretty puss, that just begs to be played with. off we go for a twenty minute session. cubicles lines up in one half of the room, jukebox with tables and drinks being served in the other half. the doors provide a mere modicum of privacy. (like when you [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) behind a lorry?) i don’t want to give it my all just yet so politely fake an orgasm and ask for a photo. she obliges, but i am aware that the flash is potentially noticeable in the bar area and that could look bad for her. she drags me into the loos the other side of the bar, leaning against the door to stop anyone coming in while i take another couple of quick photos. as she bends over to give me one of her bunda she can only push the door shut with one hand (there´s no lock on it.) finally someone pushes in. the intruder gives my girl a row (but she has instantly gone into ´just tidying my hair´ mode - as i, of course, nonchalantly freshen up.)

carioca 59 to gamboa
just round the corner (after a quiche and orange torte in dona empada) is carioca 59. another quick, cheap and cheerful would be quite nice just now. but practically every cabin is busy on each floor. it’s barely four o’clock. end of month thursday? bar luis has hardly a table free and the only thing moving about the traffic is the ethanol. arghh! what to do? my plan for this evening is to go to the opening of the samba city that has been several years in construction. buses and taxis are out of the question. a metro could get me to the far side of vargas, which would beat the congestion. i try to visualize a map pf centro. samba city is in gamboa, rua rivadivia correia. that’s about half way between praca maua and mimosa. should i get off at central or praca onze? an inspired guess says central. (also, if i go too far west, it will be harder to get back as the traffic back will be on the wrong side of vargas.) plus central is a more interesting station. big, full of atmosphere. i like going there. after jumping on the metro at carioca, i surface as central. it can’t be far. and yes, there’s lots of buses here. i fall back on an old-fashioned ruse and ask a policeman. samba city? (cidade do samba.) any rodoviara bus, he says. preferably no.126. (the rodoviaria novo rio is the intercity bus terminal not far away.) i flag a bus with rodoviara on the front without checking the number. i hate asking the conductor, but do so on this occasion (i don’t know what the place looks like and need to be kicked off at the right bit.) when you see it, you could mistake it for a prison from the outside. and it’s enormous. takes ages to find the entrance. no, i can’t have a look round. come back at 8pm and pay 150r. show at 10pm. free drinks and buffet.

traffic, aquarius and praca maua again (some time after 5pm)
my first thought is back to copa to freshen up. but when i hit the traffic in north centro, common sense kicks in. there’s no way through it. rush hour might have been doable by metro, but i need a re-think before brain explodes. i want a shower. i want more sex at some point. i need to eat. i want to get to a posh event clean and on time. aquarius looks right. i go in and up to the upstairs bar (the only one open). no robes, just day clothes. girls are all in lacy white uniform that shows up prettily in the uv light but, as with mv, doesn’t tell you much about them till they get closer. a pretty mulatta (i reckon all the girls here are at least fairly pretty) chats me up as i sip a coke. she asks for an expensive drink and i say no. realizing she’s nearly blown a booking as i stand up she hurriedly fasts forward and we get a cabin. the cabin is of a good standard, quality bed, luxury en-suite shower. she picks up clean towels and individual packets of soap on the way from reception (we have to go downstairs to pay: 75r for 30mins is reduced to 70r for cash). her performance is not bad. her c*nt is very strong smelling. the sort of smell i like on my fingers but not one that i want to go down on. it reminds me of my first p4p ever. the cabin is ice-cold when we go in but soon warms up. a buzzer goes after exactly 30mins. i swear it must have included the walk from reception. i am at least left in peace to shower and rearrange stuff (like money and camera) in my pockets. on the way out i am charged another 13r. the 10r entrance charge apparently includes two chopps (which i didn’t have) but not a cola. the woman at reception seems a bit of a battleaxe. another girl is arguing with her on behalf of a client over the bill. but i at least feel nice and fresh for the evening ahead. i head up to maua (maua is at the top of rua acre. aquarius whiskeria is at r.acre 61) i get some pork ribs outside of florida (it is 6.55pm and although florida is ´open´ there are no girls on. at 7.30pm florida has one girl on and 4 guys. i sit in the square. it is a nice place to chill out, lots of food stands, video and jukeboxes. (btw someone asked which buses go to maua – the easy answer is, ones with praca maua on the front. lots of buses terminate here.) i decide to get a taxi to samba city. not far, but if i miss my stop it is to close to several favelas for me to be wandering round when i am not quite on the ball (i feel a bit groggy for some reason, nothing bad, but not as sharp as i would like to be.) i would recommend a taxi to samba city at night especially as there is only one entrance and it is a long walk round the outside to find it. the show itself is not bad. beija-flor, my favourite samba school, were doing the first show. the food was pretty awful (as is usual when it is free) – to give you an idea there is a bob´s inside there that was doing some business. the performance was genuine and awe-inspiring enough. what was missing was the right crowd. if you go to a rehearsal party (from around september – beija-flor is in nilopolis – go with a carioca if you can) there are thousands of [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140)-poor people wjho can dance the socks off anyone with dosh. but at 150r a head, the audience was mostly wealthy old brasilians and hotel coach parties. finished at 11pm.

mimosa
is just down the road, so to speak, from samba city. i did a couple of circuits. nothing i fancied or hadn’t done too many times already. flirted with a girl (ie mutual groping) at the end casa (first on right as you enter mimosa from the bikers end, the casa that serves food and has a civilized sit-down area.) something about her put me off her though. made an excuse and left. a few more circuits and caught the eye of a blonde who i had exchanged eye-contact with several times with over the past few weeks. tall and skinny. other end of mimosa to the other casa. her pal (similar hair and build) was less cute close up though so i wanted to get a better look. the two of them had been a bit catch-me-if-you-can so i hadn’t seen this girl up close. i plonk myself down in a seat near her and wait for her to finish ignoring some unsophisticated <g> guys that are macho-ing over her. when i finally speak to her i tell her (in reasonably good portuguese) that i don’t speak any portuguese except vamus (which means, let’s go. standard vm shorthand for go to a room. she is awesomely lovely. up the stairs. the cubicle is the pits. cracked plastic mattress cover. i ask if there is any chance of a sheet. she says, no, but looks at me as if to say she will be more than enough. the obvious would be to do it standing up but i won’t get to see all of her like that. awesome. i apologized afterwards – her bum must have felt uncomfy on the mattress. but she said no, it was ok. we share an enchanted gaze as i left and headed for the nightbus home.

other stuff:
i got a few vitamins from my local chemist (farmacia do leme on corner of prado & viv.d.castro). i will shop around a bit but do not see any point in going to great lengths to save a few real. when you calculate the cost per dose, any extra you are paying is fairly nominal. people always want to know where to get it cheap, and lots of stuff circulates about how someone heard you could get it at this price or the retail price is really such and such. but what are you actually paying for it at the moment? fdl charged r156 for a pack of 4 x 100mg viagra. they charged r59 for 2 x 20mg cialis. yes, this is their discounted price. on most drugs, you have to ask for a discount, but on these they often cut to the chase. the airport quoted me r178 (4 x 100mg v). a chemist on rua acre (no.38) quoted r130 which i think is a reasonably good price. if i shop around in copa and leme i would probably get close to that. by central station a chemist wanted r55 for 2 x 20mg cialis (i think the price of this varies less). when it comes to splitting v, there is only so much splitting you can do – they break, even with a cutter. as far as i can see you have two options. either powder them or (if you are lazy like me) just have a little nibble of off the corner when you feel the need. cialis are much easier though, for me work faster, better value as they last much longer, have less side effects and so on. it is well worth checking other drugs. for instance, ranitidine cost 15r (after a big discount) at f.d.leme for 20 x 300mg (but was quite extortionate elsewhere.

getting about
it maybe helps to think of the city center based on a cross formed by vargas and rio branco. if you make or find a map (i made one by sticking two scanned pages of ruas together) you need an area bounded by cinelandia metro in the south, pres vargas metro in the east, maua at the north and, well the sea to the east (just north of where the ferries go to niteroi). in the bottom left hand side you have the cheap city center knock shops and markets, as well as uruguaiana and carioca stations. in the top left you have northern knock shops such as the ones dealt with mostly in this report. in the bottom right you have a slightly nicer area with more of the posher termas. if you get lost and do not have a compass, you will eventually hit either rio branco (north to south) or presidente vargas (east to west). branco has even numbers on the west, the side nearest the metro stations. with vargas, you can see which is east cos there’s big touristy looking churches in the middle of the road that end.

taxi costs
finally here are some published estimated taxi fares (from ruas) based on daytime (6am to 9pm) rates
copa to:
airport 35r
barra 35r
centro/lapa 18
ipanema 11
botânico 14
maracanã 23
praça da bandeira (ie vm) 22
rodoviária novo rio 22
urca (sugar loaf) 10.
sometimes (but not often) it is even to your advantage to get the meter switched off if you bargain a good fare.

the main point of including so much in this report was hopefully someone might find it helpful to get into the idea of adapting plans. in the west we are so used to making surefire arrangements. this is less possible in rio. enjoy!

Member #4217

06-01-07, 16:14

Ola everyone,

Not getting into much trouble yet, but I am back.
Watch out for my reports on Vila Mimosa, Balconey and other hot spots in Centro.
This time I am here for at least 4 months.

Lez have somer fun!

tom n jerry527

Bubba Boy

06-01-07, 20:09

The price at Centaurus just hit R330, up from R310. With the dollar now at 1.92, this represents a doubling of prices in 3 years.

The government officially quotes inflation at being 6%, what a load of crap, the real rate is around 10-15%. Buses just went up again, now R2.10, they were R1.30 3 years ago. Everything has gone up about 40% in local prices in the 3 1/2 years that I have been going to Rio, add this with a 45% drop in the currency, the result is the prices are about double. I am thinking I could live in Miami or most large euro cities for about the same price, of course that would not result in the same quality bunda...........but would be a lot more secure, I am thinking of moving to a new destination.

Mangera

06-01-07, 21:58

Brother, the Real hit 1.90 today, scary. I arrive in a few days, I am going to have to take out as much money as possible from atm, cause it doesn't seem as though its(dollar) going to go back up anytime soon. Only Just keep going down.

I usually use credit cards in termas or fine dining establishments, but this will be a problem if dollar continues to get weaker day by day. I hardly ever take any cash with me to Rio, except maybe a couple of hundred dollars for emergency purposes.

On this upcomming trip, I am either going to take alot of cash and try to find the best exchange rate possible, and/or just take out a bunch money in reals out of the atm( I usually get a good rate from my citibank card and citibank in Rio). I plan on being in Brazil for a month, so this is going to get interesting.

I can accept the reality of the dollar getting weaker, but shit, not as quickly as it has been dropping lately, thats what irks me the most. I hope it shoots up a little by next monday. By the way, can someone please refresh my mind as to the max amount of cash one can travel with before you must report it to any official or agency of that country. I want to make sure I am below that number.

Mangera

06-01-07, 22:05

Almotu

06-01-07, 22:22

I can accept the reality of the dollar getting weaker, but shit, not as quickly as it has been dropping lately, thats what irks me the most. I hope it shoots up a little by next monday.

NOT VERY LIKELY. You might experience a $R0.10 swing during your month-long stay.

By the way, can someone please refresh my mind as to the max amount of cash one can travel with before you must report it to any official or agency of that country. I want to make sure I am below that number.

I recall that on the Customs Form they kindly ask you inform them if you are bring in currency = $R10,000 and up.

El Austriaco

06-01-07, 23:37

i recall that on the customs form they kindly ask you inform them if you are bring in currency = .
i can confirm that. any combination of cash, checks, monetary instruments, etc. exceeding $r10,000 (not usd 10,000.00, like most countries in the world), you need to report at customs upon arrival. they will hand you a special form (afaik, only in portuguese) to fill out, note the amount you bring in in a big book, and hand you a receipt. had to do just that back last year. nothing more to it than that, quite easy and painfree, actually, and the customs agents were very helpful. like everywhere else, failure to report will expose you to the risk of confirep001ion of the entire amount, so i would be careful.

ea

Mangera

06-01-07, 23:38

Thanks for the info.

Mangera

06-01-07, 23:39

Thanks for the confirmation.

Rabbone1111

06-02-07, 00:49

Hey Fellas,

I wanted some info on a girl named Denise. Met her on my last trip in Nov. 06. I was in Rio for 10 days. I ran through everything that caught my eye for the first 5 days. (Ranging from 1. 2 a day avg $200. $250 mostly overnighters) Met Denise in Help after that. My first session with her I drop $200R. Next morning She said she wanted to chill with me for the rest of the day. We went to the Beach had lunch and relax most of the day (by this time I was worn out so chillin was cool for me.) I mentioned to her in a roundabout way I know you have to make ends meet so if you have to roll I'll catch you next time. She said no and stated that she wanted to be with me. Cool no issue. Never had the Girl Friend experience before so I didn't mind it. She offered to cook dinner for me. Had My DVD player hooked up the TV and we watched movies all night. Had another session in the middle of the night and I was down for the count after that. Next morning she gets up cooks breakfast. Says she has to check on her son and asked if I wanted to see her again I said sure she said "then come with me". I had nothing on the planner for that day so I rolled with her. Went to her apartment (about a 15minute walk). Met the kid. The extended family and broke bread with them over at her crib. She took me to Campo. Now this was cool. Before I had never been outside Rio so it was cool to hop on the train and see parts of Rio I've never seen before. At this point I'm still waiting for that shoe to drop where she flips out and start demanding money for all the services and time spent (oh. Forgot to mention she washed my clothes too.) Long story short. This goes on for the rest of my stay. She never asked me for anything. Not even cab fare. When we go out I would pay for us of course but each time we came back to the apartment it was like the session was on the house. Before I left I just should my appreciation for such a good time I left $500R and about 4 NBA knockoff jerseys for the kid. (Which was still a bargin to me) She still emails me once in a while to see if I'm still living since my last visit. I plan on headed back in July. I know Ron had mentioned a few things about her and Josie running game. (Seen her and Josie the site on Myspace) So before I try to contact her when I get there wanted to know of any other crazy stories. Outsied of Ron's Buddy where I should proceed with caution or just close the book on that all together and be thankful I didn't get ganked?

Photo of Denise can be viewed in the Photo Gallery (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=604012&postcount=1442 )

(Thanks Jackson...sorry about that)

One Eyed Man

06-02-07, 15:35

I spent some time at the Club Florida Thursday night, which is located at Praça Mauá, essentially at the end of Rua Acre, across from the police station. It's next door to another similar club, Antarctica, and there is also a large outdoor cafe in front and at least one more in the area. For some reason, the taxi driver didn't know it automatically.

Florida has been described as a strip club, but that's not entirely accurate. There are about a dozen girls in bikinis, but they seldom if ever take them off (I think I saw one girl topless, but it was so dark, it's hard to be sure.) There are two dance "floors"--one is a long area with two pairs of rails, and a very small traditional space with a pole. Sometimes the customers get up and dance with the girls. (White guys shouldn't dance.)

The best way to describe the place is a hostess club. There are cabines available, but I experienced no pressure to take one, and I didn't see anyone going upstairs. YMMV, but I had a really hot girl that sat down with me, we stroked and cuddled like high school students, no kissing, and she drank beer with me, with no demands at all for more expensive drinks.

I don't really understand the math, but we had seven Skols for R$58. In summary, Florida seems a relaxing place to hang out for a change of pace.

Member #4156

06-02-07, 15:58

Remember these reports are personal and shouldn’t be taken as gospel. A different time, a different day, a different set of coincidences – your experience of them could be totally different.

Chris,

You're cool with me man. :)

Sperto

06-02-07, 16:08

i spent some time at the club florida thursday night, which is located at praça mauá, essentially at the end of rua acre, across from the police station. it's next door to another similar club, antarctica, and there is also a large outdoor cafe in front and at least one more in the area. for some reason, the taxi driver didn't know it automatically.
the similar club next door, is that scandinavia? i'm curios if there is a new club in praça mauá. are you sure that "antarctica" wasn't just a beer sign?

you should try florida again when there is a foreign ship in the port. the sailors attracts a lot of free-lancers to florida. visiting cruise ships is like christmas for the girls. on my visits to florida the girls dancing on the long stage have always been toppless and almost all of them had taken of their bottom parts.

the girls acting propably depends on the number of possible clients. they don't seem to care to make a good show for some of the local guys who just go there to peep and have one beer. when a bunch of gringos arrives they know there might be business and do their best to attract a client.

One Eyed Man

06-03-07, 05:26

The similar club next door, is that Scandinavia? I'm curios if there is a new club in Praça Mauá. Are you sure that "Antarctica" wasn't just a beer sign?

I meant Scandinavia. Must have beer on the brain. Anyway, it's nice to get out of Copa and find these locals-only places.

Tigers787

06-03-07, 18:27

Curry

06-03-07, 20:29

Quote:
Originally Posted by Curry
Am I the only person here concerned that this time last year the real was at 2.35/ dollar? 1.95 Now? I dont want to sound petty (even though I do) but what happened to the "surge" that was supposed to take place after Carnival? What the hell?! Did the real get on steriods? Ethanol to blame? A boom in tourism? What? I only inquire because it seems to me that over the past 7 years prices quoted for the sport in BRAZIL have actually INCREASED. This is punani inflation!

Posted by Mr.Enternational
First, the prices of the hobby have not really increased over the past few years. It only seems to you to have increased because you are trying to compare it to your home currency when you should only be looking at it in terms of reais. When you look at it in reais you undoubtedly see that the prices have been flat.

Second, why be concerned if there is nothing you can do about it? Also, why would you think there would be a surge in the dollar against the real after Carnaval? Carnaval does not control exchange rates. Exchange rates are determined by the demand and supply of one currency relative to that of another blah blah blah...

No disrespect intenended but the price for EVERYTHING in RIO has in fact gone up Significantly.I inquired about the "surge" because other members seemed convinced that the real would stabilize at around 2.50 after Carnaval. Didnt happen.When one was has to make a decision between Colombia, DR, and Brazil, cost of living (even if it be for a week) has to be taken ito consideration for many of us who seek to maximize our experience and dollars while on vacation. Even Bubba Boy has acknowledged that its getting ridiculous down there. If living cost increase , it seems that the cost of poom poom would as well. Gradually if not drastically. Simply a theory (which has been proven true time and time again.)

CaptainNemo

06-03-07, 23:08

Hello gentleman,

I need some info on this night club in Ipanema. Few weeks ago I was there around 23:00 Saturday night and I was told it was 100r to get in. Of course I didn't belive them so I asked my brazilian friend to ask and he also got the same answer. I wanted to know if any one of you had been in it and to give some info about this place. I have been in many clubs I just never heard of 50usd to get in. I must say one thing the girls going in that place they were the best looking Victoria Secret type of models that I have ever seen.

Thanks for your help.

Tiger

The price is about right. I was there 2 years ago. I think that I pay about 80R. The price includes 2 drinks(I think). If you don't like to spend money, forget about pull non-pro chicks from this place. We spent about 600 US$ (2 guys and 2 girls) to have a table. We spend money left and right, tip every one. Waiter watched our stuff and the manager was introduced. We did get a lot of look from girls at other tables.

If 50 US$ is too much get in a club, you have not been to many clubs in big cities or Europe.

RioFavelaboy

06-03-07, 23:20

Hello gentleman,

I need some info on this night club in Ipanema. Few weeks ago I was there around 23:00 Saturday night and I was told it was 100r to get in. Of course I didn't belive them so I asked my brazilian friend to ask and he also got the same answer. I wanted to know if any one of you had been in it and to give some info about this place. I have been in many clubs I just never heard of 50usd to get in. I must say one thing the girls going in that place they were the best looking Victoria Secret type of models that I have ever seen.

Thanks for your help.

TigerHey Tiger I just got back Tuesday and went to NUTH and was quoted a 100r price for entrance! Club Six down town was the best experience for off hobby clubs and I also hit Club URBANO in Sao Paulo it was a great experience I think I paid 20r entrance and the drinks were reasonably priced and actually put your ass down!

I also went to Olimpo on a wed night, this club is a Baile Frankie, Hip Hop and Pogodie music club, but mostly Frankie and the women get in free, on the night I went man it was probably easily 2000-3000 people in the joint. I was able to smuggle my camera in and have some video it's an awsome place, VIP section cost me a whole 20r to get a table and my tab at the end of the night was only 85r. Via show was the same experience but atleast 6000 people!

I didn't do Bombar this time but always a good experience but this club you went to I've never ventured to.

Hope that little info helped.

Mr Enternational

06-04-07, 01:45

Quote: Originally Posted by Curry

When one was has to make a decision between Colombia, DR, and Brazil, cost of living (even if it be for a week) has to be taken ito consideration for many of us who seek to maximize our experience and dollars while on vacation. Colombia is not doing us any better. Did you see how the rate has fallen below 2000 pesos/dollar? Damn. I'm down here in Lima now though. The black market is 3. 15 soles/dollar. You can get a decent hotel for $30/night. Last night on Pizza Street a chick offered me TLN for 100 soles. I told her to be real with me because I am not rich. She came down to 80 soles; only $25 for all night. I let it pass though because one of my non-pros was already on the way. You might want to come check it out!

El Austriaco

06-04-07, 03:36

I also went to Olimpo on a wed night, this club is a Baile Frankie, Hip Hop and Pogodie music club, but mostly Frankie and the women get in free, on the night I went man it was probably easily 2000-3000 people in the joint.
I like Frankie boy as much as the next guy, but I suppose you meant to say "baile funk" (pronounced "BYlee FUNkee") and "pagode" (pronounced "pahGODshee"), right?

Actually, I would like to hear more details about your "baile funk" experience. Did you go to one of the infamous ones in the dirt-poor suburbs (as your user name might suggest)? Where exactly was that? How was it?

EA

Bravo

06-04-07, 04:10

Hey Tiger I just got back Tuesday and went to NUTH and was quoted a 100r price for entrance! Club Six down town was the best experience for off hobby clubs and I also hit Club URBANO in Sao Paulo it was a great experience I think I paid 20r entrance and the drinks were reasonably priced and actually put your ass down!

I also went to Olimpo on a wed night, this club is a Baile Frankie, Hip Hop and Pogodie music club, but mostly Frankie and the women get in free, on the night I went man it was probably easily 2000-3000 people in the joint. I was able to smuggle my camera in and have some video it's an awsome place, VIP section cost me a whole 20r to get a table and my tab at the end of the night was only 85r. Via show was the same experience but atleast 6000 people!

I didn't do Bombar this time but always a good experience but this club you went to I've never ventured to.

Hope that little info helped.

Where is Olimpa located?

El Austriaco

06-04-07, 05:52

http://odia.terra.com.br/rio/htm/geral_102425.asp

Police starts registration of Garotos de Programa in Zona Sul

Ana Carolina de Souza

Rio - The Delegacia Especial de Atendimento ao Turista (Deat: Special Tourist Police) and the Batalhão de Turismo (BPTur: Tourism Battalion) of the Polícia Militar (Military Police) have kicked off Operation Cinderela 2. Friday night, police agents checked strategic points in Zona Sul to register male hookers and transvestites to prevent assaults of foreigners in the city.

“The main purpose is to prevent robbery and theft of tourists, mainly involving the use of the so-called ‘Boa Noite, Cinderela’”, explained inspector Ronaldo Montalvão, Chief of Operations of DEAT. This year alone, at least 27 foreigners were drugged and subsequently robbed by male or female prostitutes.

Approx. 30 police officers participated in the operation, which was supported by a van of the Coordenadoria de Recursos Especiais (Office of the Coordinator of Special Resources). “They complained that we were taking them off the street and that they were losing money. But ultimately, they calmed down once we explained that this would also increase their own safety”, the inspector recounted. A group of three male prostitutes was found to carry a large knife in a back bag. “They were taken to the police station, but they claimed that the back bag was not theirs”, Mr. Ronaldo Montalvão confirmed.

In March, the police station had already conducted Operation Cinderela 1, during which female prostitutes were identified. During identification, the police discovered two women with a criminal rap sheet.

At the beginning of last month, Rick Gordon Pierce, a Canadian 49 years of age, died after drinking a chope to which, supposedly, a chemical substance had been added. During Operation Cinderela 2, the police tried to locate the male hooker who is suspected to have poisened the tourist, using a police sketch based on eyewitness reports. The suspect was not found, however.

EA

RioFavelaboy

06-04-07, 08:29

I like Frankie boy as much as the next guy, but I suppose you meant to say "baile funk" (pronounced "BYlee FUNkee") and "pagode" (pronounced "pahGODshee"), right?

Actually, I would like to hear more details about your "baile funk" experience. Did you go to one of the infamous ones in the dirt-poor suburbs (as your user name might suggest)? Where exactly was that? How was it?

EAOk EL, I have a girl in RIO now and her mom lives in the favela and I'm there all the time, I actually have stayed their from time to time and it's very much like the Show City of Men, but the Favela (Near Penha 45 min from Copa) where her mom lives is not on a hill, it's complete with gang members walking around with guns and radios, but mostly on motorcycles. I could never come to this place on my own, I've been going there for about 2 years now with my girl who shares a house in VOZ LOBO with her sister but her mom loves her house in the favela, I'm known pretty much by everyone there so I'm there without any issues!

The Baile Funk parties do happen there and they are great to see, the Girls all love to shake the BUNDA but I must correct you we are both correct on what they call the music, it's called baile funk and frankie! Just go down town RIO to the market where they sell the CD's and ask for frankie they will know what you are talking about, as far as the "pagode" word man I'm not the best speller I just listen to what my girl tells me the names are, the "pagode" is more of a samba type slower music, funk is more like brazilian style rap it's hard and alot of the lyrics are sexually explicit in nature and refer to alot of things going on in the favelas.

These frankie parties are off the hook because they basically shut off one of the tiny ass streets in the favela and put up a stage and sound system and put on a concert,I couldn't believe the fun these people who don't have shit can have so much fun and enjoy life like they do.

I actulally have some video from Olimpo and would love to upload it just to show you guys how huge the place is, Via show is even bigger you can catch the furacao2000 show on brazilian TV everyday around 1230 the dancers on the show are fine as hell and they show actual video from Olimpo and Via Show!

Check out this link and you'll see what I'm talking about!
http://www.furacao2000.com.br/

Via Show Site
http://www.viashow.com.br/

This link will show Olimpo
http://www.obaoba.com.br/baladas/casas_detalhe.asp?casaID=2707
Video From Olimpo
http://www.brightcove.com/title.jsp?title=926353624&channel=769758472&lineup=931927134

This will give you a very good look at what these parties are like, but I say the favela outside parties are better more natural. Hope I helped you a little.

Dutch44

06-04-07, 22:34

Hi El Austriaco,

I just saw your report:

....At the beginning of last month, Rick Gordon Pierce, a Canadian 49 years of age, died after drinking a chope to which, supposedly, a chemical substance had been added. During Operation Cinderela 2, the police tried to locate the male hooker who is suspected to have poisened the tourist, using a police sketch based on eyewitness reports. The suspect was not found, however. EA

FYI: there is a website that you probably know, which keeps track of the kind of Rio "casualties", like Mr. Pierce's case.

here is the link: http://www.riobodycount.com.br/todas.asp?pagina=94

Well, we all love Rio. But we also do know Rio is not the safest city on the world, don't we...

enjoy and stay safe,
Dutch44

El Austriaco

06-04-07, 23:07

FYI: there is a website that you probably know, which keeps track of the kind of Rio "casualties", like Mr. Pierce's case.

here is the link: http://www.riobodycount.com.br/todas.asp?pagina=94

Well, we all love Rio. But we also do know Rio is not the safest city on the world, don't we...

enjoy and stay safe,
Dutch44
Yes, I do know that website. As a matter of fact, I quoted quite extensively from it in the past weeks in the Rio Crime and Safety section. And as to whether Rio is not the safest city in the world, I wrote a more extensive analysis of the incidents reported on Rio Body Count just a few days ago. Check it out:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=604974&postcount=684

EA

HoleRanger

06-05-07, 18:37

First, thanks to all that contibute to this forum, the research gained made my trip a blast.

Where I stayed. Apt on NS de Copacabana. Two blocks from Help, Meia Pataca. Grocery store across the street, bank down the block, my favorite eating spot on the opposite corner.

Company used www.copacabanapt4rent.com

Nothing but things to say about this company, contact will be Claudio. On arrival greeted by Franco who gave me a walking tour. Where to eat, shop, exchange $ etc.

Visited several Termas and even tried a Casa (just to say I went). Hmmm. Scary. Different strokes for different folks. Rates at the Casa visited on Avenida Rio Branco. R10 for 10 minus and up.

Enough talk. Some photos to share. Enjoy!

Anyone who needs more info. Pm me.

HoleRanger

06-05-07, 18:41

No talk, just a few more shots. Enjoy!

Jan 156

06-05-07, 20:57

i seem to advocate for mimosa – i go there more than any other mongering spot in rio – but maybe my enthusiasm should be tempered with an example of its hit and miss quality.

firstly the context. it has been p*ssing with rain over the weekend so i want home delivery. most of the agencies shut. i schedule a gfe girl i know and have been meaning to catch up with to come to my apartment. and another to follow. i´ll tell you the gfe stuff first as it is then quite a gear change to the pay-and-poke of vm!

when i first saw gfe1 she reminded me of a moment on the metro earlier that day. i had glanced at this kinda perfect couple. i thought, i would like to be in a relationship like that. she looked perfect for me haha. anyway i meet gfe1 later that night while schmoozing her voluptuous friend. the friend has a slightly dizzy come-to-bed style and gets me horny very quickly. we negotiate price in between languorous kisses. i coax her down to 150 but my max rate (outside of a terma) is 100 and i am a tad inflexible on that. suddenly she seems to have forgotten where we have got to and asks for 300 like she has just come down from 400. i realize she is more drunk than i thought and kindly tell her so. she would probably fall asleep on me even if we did get the price straight. her friend (gfe1) is pretty sober, speaks good english and is quite refined. i explain the situation, saying much as i fancy the friend there is no way i am taking her back to my apartment cos she is drunk.

now switching girls from one friend to another in that situation can cause conflict between them, so i discretely get gfe1´s phone number and walk them up the road till i know they are safe. (gfe1 tells her friend she can stay at her apartment tonight and they get a taxi.)

a few days later i phone gfe1 and get together with her. she is exquisite. perfect and delicate features. not over-dressy. quite stunning in a low key way. could easily pass for a regular girl. fairly intellectual too. when she takes her top off i am even more bowled over. i had put her as branca (white) but most of that even is a perfect tan. her beautiful petite breasts have large nipples and conical aureoles that make them jut out enticingly. but each aureole is framed by white bikini lines. this girl likes to tan! we have a great time and she stays to the next day. but then i am slightly surprised to get the clingy routine. the you-not-like-me-anymore (if-you-don’t-fuck-me-daily) which i am not putting up with. i still like her though. i tell her i come to brasil often and want her as a friend, not just another programma (she objects to this and says she does not want money, which is not quite true).

i meet up with her and her friend in help one night socially and watch their styles. gfe1 seems to make little or no effort. her friend goes into the i-am-slightly-tipsy-and-at-your-mercy routine (which, several cuba libres later, becomes more real than act). but i find the smokiness of help oppressive and split.

anyway, i get her (gfe1) to come over during the rainy weekend. my apartment is nice and welcoming – house plants (only 2 to 3 r each), and music, and work that doesn’t involve being out in the rain (much). it is suitably awesome (snip large section here as i forgot to save and the computer crashed). the moment she maneuvered us into a position that was perfect for mutual stimulation of both our anatomies will remain with me for a long time. cook her breakfast in the morning.

gfe2 i have seen once so far and went to heaven. as emotional connections go, this is the best gfe ever. she arrives (an hour late even though she lives 100 yards away). none of her high-attitude clothing/make-up pitch she uses for work at night. just a beautiful 23yr old girl. when i am with gfe2 i cannot think anything bad. at all. every worry, stress, and care in the world dissolves in her warmth, her sea of loving affection. she is up for sex at any time and anywhere. constantly. we fall asleep kissing and wake up and wake up fondling each other. while asleep i dream we are together in the small town she comes from (which she showed me on the map), living in rural tranquility and simplicity for ever. this is getting dangerous – after 24hrs she really could talk me into giving up everything to go and live with her. but she doesn’t (and wouldn’t) of course. underneath she is doing her job (i have to keep reminding myself).

tearing myself away eventually . . .

meeeeeeemowwwwwwsah!

there´s a girl i met there last week who was pretty mind-blowing (tall blonde – earlier post – my ideal genotype). i am not overly keen on mimosa when it is wet and guessed she might be rather in demand at the weekend anyway. so leave it till monday evening. i had even been to the gym to work out thinking i wanted to be in shape for a longer session with her. i wait at the bus stop (princesa isabel – buses are 464, 455 or 456. they are spread over two stops but the better bus stops that have routes marked and on pr.isabel they are close together. i flag one down in my most convincing carioca manner. getting off the bus to mimosa requires careful timing. first time i did it i knew the location reasonably well, it was daytime, and had studied the map so knew to get off after the big flyover. it’s the first big interchange going along pres.vargas west – ie out of town – and the one before maracana. if you miss the stop you can walk back along the narrow pavement from sao cristovao metro station. the name of the stop is praca bandeira, but unless you have been speaking basic portuguese for a bit you won´t be able to pronounce it well enough to ask for directions. so check your map – the bus will be going pretty fast – and pull the cord as you get to the top of the flyover. it lets you off either on the vm side of pr.bandeira or on one of the paved areas dividing the multi-lane highways there, which means using the pale blue footbridge unless you can dodge traffic like spiderman of course).

under the double bridges, past the stagnant smells under the cast iron one, straight on past the revamped bikers club that is blaring some pretty quality heavy metal. almost to the end of the street where there’s a blind curve to the right that is usually in virtual darkness. then sharp right into the small street and 50 yards along is mimosa village.

past the bar with the open air snooker, past a small turning to the right, past lots of parked lorries and a few stands selling food or drinks. you know when you are in vm. the music, the lights, the party atmosphere. the first vm alley is off to the right. this casa is quite laid back. rarely any great beauties but a nice reasonably quite area where you can sit and drink or eat or dance/chat to the girls with no rush. then several casas where you go up a few steps to the outdoor balcony where the girls often dance or otherwise try to inveigle you in to drink or f*ck. one is decorated in bright pink – slightly older girls who like to chat for hours on the pleasant verandah. rooms are slightly better quality. a couple of alley-ways with casas off them that are only open at busy times. around the middle is a big u-shaped alley off to the left where most of the casas are. another two alleys after that on the left and a constantly changing scenario on the right, including a large garage that doubles as a casa and a rooftop casa (up a flight of stairs that will put off anyone nervous of heights) with a dancefloor – usually only worth checking at very busy times. then lots of food sellers. mostly barbecue, but you can also get soup and meat-veg-rice dishes. be sensible and alert. does it look fresh? does the seller look clean? do the girls eat there? i have only once had a bad barbecue at mimosa – some slightly off chicken. if it tastes bad, don’t eat it – simple.

i do a quick tour of the u-bend alley to get my juices flowing. meet a girl l--- from years back. pleased to see her, but want to give my girl first options. make a see through excuse about getting some food first and promise to come back.

i head for the last alley way on the left to look for my devastating tall blonde beauty.

(mistake number one: never assume a particular girl will be at vm on a particular night just cos you are too in lust to think straight).

that alley is pretty quiet tonight. i go get some food after all. honesty is a nice luxury when deviousness has failed.

the breaded chicken is ok but i get her to dunk it in the boiling fat again as i like it very hot. the various kebabs here are slightly overpriced – as in copa – you pay 2r for a kebab that would cost 1r on rio branco (and the rio branco would probably have a higher guarantee of freshness given the turnover.) but it is still cheap eats.

damn. one of my favourite girls (s-----) has spotted me and i can’t ignore her. this girl could be pin up if she had the attitude. she is wearing a great red top which goes perfectly with her blonde hair and makes me want to get some photos. the other night she did a photo session for 10r (pics are usually free - this is just a thing we have going for fun). s----- likes money. or sex. usually one or the other takes priority. tonight it is sex. she refuses photo-money unless sex is included. i say later. she says now. i say later. she says pay now then. this is typical of our stand-offs. she is more affectionate than usual (one monger friend i introduced her too found her beautiful but too cold and scary to go with – her usual ambience/]b*tch-shield). she gyrates her bunda into my crotch, turns and leaps up to straddle my waist. i am guessing it is something to do with her cycle maybe that makes her horny at certain times of the month. now if this sounds like your dream come true, you maybe haven’t met s----- yet. i submit, more as a pal than anything else and cos i want the (clothed) photos. we do the cubicle. barely noticed the 10r i throw her as extra for pictures. wants to know if i want sexy. i want clothed (good nude photos, technically, are very much harder for model and the person behind the camera.) she insists on sexy clothed. i am concentrating on getting her smile right. i show her the pics. she approves and rips her pants off.

now a woman in heat has one thing on her mind. ok, we are all selfish when it comes to sex, but most of us temper it with a little consideration - which in turn works well for both parties. not s-----. this is 20 minutes of do as i am told, exactly. no, like that. that!! more like this – only harder. this is not only hard work, but she twice has to yell at people wanting the cubicle to get lost as she hasn’t come yet (business here is not slow and cubicles are in demand). i am worried that her new clit-ring could do some damage. 30 minutes later i am allowed out. half jokingly i tell her i want 20 minutes of her going down on me next time. i stagger out. need more frango, and not the breaded kind.

a guaravit, chicken kebab and two skols later i catch up with l---. she thanks me for my text message (sent two weeks ago). i chide her she has not replied, which she denies in the way only a woman can. we go upstairs. now l--- is a class act. by that i mean she could do a good terma and probably does (barra, i think). a relatively quiet night at vm - yet i noticed on the sign-in book (at the pay-desk) that she has chalked up eight customers before me. she looks perfect – eyebrows plucked to perfection, about as much make-up (as she will charitably apply for vm) spot on. l--- has sophisticated tastes and knows how to support them. but she does vm on remote control. the perfectly timed gasp as my fingers first brush her nipple. the porn-star arch of the back. i joke around to get her out of the routine. first time i had her i was blown away. now, i know it off by heart. it is more of a friendship f*ck (again). we do some photos afterwards and she has all the poses instantly and expertly available. we kiss goodnight and i promise her pics from last year i’ve brought with me.

so much for nice-to-be-nice sha*gs! i want something solely for my john thomas! i see a girl peeking out from under a stairway. she has a gorgeous twinkle in her eye. like when you look up and suddenly spot some stars winking brightly from between the clouds. she is shy and enchanting. we hug over introductions and go back to the room. it is a solo cabin i have only been to once before. spacious, with a double bed. she tenderly returns my kisses. as we undress she tells me that i am her first. i am not sure if she means first of the night but it could be first at mimosa or first as p4p. whatever. i try to be considerate. sadly when the clothes come off she is older than she appeared, though still quite do-able. the nice attitude gets me going. as i penetrate her it feels quite personal and tender. afterwards she thanks me. genuine and sincere, she calls me her ´friend´.

nice. not mind-blowing but better than just coming along to be s-----´s unpaid gigolo (well, no actually. in fairness to s-----, the expression on her beautiful face when she comes is totally worth it, even if she ignores me or falls asleep almist immedately afterwards). or doing the not-seen-you-for-ages-so-i-suppose-we-should-f*ck (but then again, i wanted to see l---- and a f*ck was the only way to do it really).

a voice hails me. it is my friend g------. i always try to remember to use her real name or vm name as appropriate to the situation. she is frozen. skimpy outfit and the weather is still very cold (some of the girls are wearing coats – others are wearing more than usual which makes it hard to see what’s underneath – as bad as help.) we grab some biscuits and chat, trying to find time in our schedules to get together socially. she is studying during the day out of town and working at nights to pay for it. we choose some music on one of the better video jukeboxes and argue vociferously over the respective merits of queen and nirvana and she plays air-guitar. best moment of the evening probably. for a minute we are in this bubble having a great time as mates, much to the bewilderment of everyone around. i suddenly recall that g------ was my very first p4p on my very first trip to rio. (she asked me straight afterwards to stay at her house and help her learn english - which i had declined). i realize i have never told her this amazing fact. reality check – it is less amazing to her than the fact that we can remember each other’s favourite bands. (we have only had sex once since the first time).

across the road another regular, b----- gets my attention. long blonde hair down to her bum. a lovely warm nature. she is one of my favourite vm girls. tonight she is not tarted up. she has jeans, denim jacket and no make-up (given the weather and it being a quiet night, probably quite a sensible option.) she snuggles into me and murmurs that she is cold. she no money tonight. much as i like her openness it is not the chat-up line to get a guy´s juices racing is it? i cuddle her and play a friendly joke on s----- with her.

across the street again. shall i make one more effort? a girl stops me and says her friend likes me. when it is not too pushy (ie a straight like-anyone-who-pays pitch) i quite like this scenario. if she feels some attraction she will probably be more fun. the girl in question is quite shy, dark mulatto, almost negro. doesn’t look my usual type. but her skin is scintillatingly soft as i brush her cheek with ´prazir´ and glide my hand across her arm and the small of her back. i like the way she moves, sensitively, as if almost holding her breath. upstairs she is just as nice. goes straight for a bbbj. again, not quite as nubile as i thought but a pleasant enough experience.

time for home. damn! given the attempted hold-up on the night bus a few days ago i had planned to get a taxi but now only have 14r on me. i walk towards praca bandeira. there are 12 or so guys loping very slowly ahead of me. probably just happy punters but there’s no-one else in the street and i don’t want to take a chance. i hang back a bit and look slightly enviously at the passing empty taxi. give them a few minutes then head on back to the freeway. say hi to a chica i know waiting at the maracana side of the road. traffic very low (about 1.30am) so just leg it across the road instead of using the footbridge. hang around at the taxi rank where the copa buses pass. only have to wait a few mins. straining my eyes, i make out copacabana on the front and hop on for my 2r worth back home. no-one dodgy-looking on board. no hold-ups. off after the tunnel. sadly cervantes is shut. back home for some more grub.

but the night is still young!

Brazilman

06-06-07, 04:25

Antgreg

06-06-07, 04:37

Jan 156

06-06-07, 07:38

Just a short trip to Mimosa tonight. Left Copa just after midnight. A 464 bus (the one that goes the ´scenic´ route - ie thru Lapa). Just caught L--- before she went home to give her a photo. She tells me with a grin not to go with any other women.

I spot a hottie. She moves with a friend to a bar that has been done up a bit - tablecloths and flowers on the table. I spend about 20 minutes flirting with eye contact only for some Brasilian guy on the next table to wordlessly hand her 25R. Damn! I put my hand on heart in mock sorrow as she glances over apologetically. Walk around for a bit thinking how the place looks a mess.

Back 40 mins or so later and she´s scrubbed up and free.I hang around the casa entrance reckoning that if the last guy didn´t ring her bells, she´ll come over (total rubbish, I know, but hell it makes me feel good!) She´s wearing a fluffy pink negligee. Tall, long blonde hair, smallish breasts but voluptuous hips. Her looks, body language and the sound of her voice all remind me of an ex-university friend that everyone had the hots for. Average room. Tiny bit of foam padding and a sheet that doesn´t look too awful (especially if you don´t look). She has a nice sensitive touch, just as I imagined. Soft gentle kisses as we get down to it. After a while turn her over to doggy position and she does that little bunda-dance thing and I realise suddenly why so many guys here find it a big turn on . . .

Not much else doing afterwards but I feel great. Funny how it changes with your mood. A while back I was noticing the hideously uglies, the overflowing rubbish, the grabbies (women who try to grab hold of you roughly as you pass). Now all I could see was the party atmosphere, the warm smiles. Like the sparkle of sunlight on the rain in the cracks of the pavement.

Mimosa - Beijos!

Loso69

06-06-07, 07:41

Spent the whole day in 4x4 today. Bliss!

But I heard that they would be closed on Thursday, as it's a holiday in Brazil. The other Centro termas will probably be closed as well. Will any termas be open? Will the escort agencies be open for business?

Loso

Jose Lima

06-06-07, 12:30

Hi guys,

I'm trying to find out which one is better? I've been to the DR and loved it.Now I want to see Brasil ,but I need to know from your guys experience which city should I go to Rio or Sao Paulo?

Thanks

They are to completley different. SP is a huge city. 100's of termas and casas. Tons of nightclubs and 100's of great restaraunts but the prices are about double then rio. All night in help can go from $R200-$R250. 1 hour in a nice termas in SP is $R250 just for the girl. Sometimes up to $R400 just for the girl for maybe 1 1/2 hour. If your on a budget dont think about SP.

Rio in my own honest opinion is just a big waste of space with its 5 nice termas and handfull of bars/clubs. Its good for not spending as much and getting some nice hottys but if you like to hit 4-5 nice girls a day you will find yourself running into the same crowd of girls after about 3 days.

Fora first timer I would suggest RIO. For the experiance monger with very good knowledge of the portuguse language and a bigger budget go SP. Its just plan Classier. I go to SP 4-5 times a year and stop down in Rio maybe once only if I absolutly have to. I would chose Goiana over Rio in a heartbeat.

Mangera

06-06-07, 13:41

Gentlemen, is anyone up to date with prices at 4 x 4 or Solarium? Much appreciated, Thanks.

Langer

06-06-07, 13:58

Hi guys,

I'm trying to find out which one is better? I've been to the DR and loved it.Now I want to see Brasil ,but I need to know from your guys experience which city should I go to Rio or Sao Paulo?

Thanks

That's easy, Sao Paulo every time, why because it has more thermas, more girls, better looking girls, etc. It is however more expensive, and Rio has the beach, but for women Sao Paulo every time.

That's not to say Rio is bad, Rio is wonderful, just that if you have the cash Sao Paulo is better.

Langer

06-06-07, 14:01

They said on cnbc that the Real should keep improving against the dollar. You better go to brazil now, because we will be at 1. 50 to 1 by December, which will make Brazil a destination for rich guys only.
Rich or European!! The Euro is still good againist the Real, looks like things are only going to get worse.

Rio Bob

06-06-07, 15:53

I am back from Brazil this weekend, and let me tell you, it's expensive. I went through 1500. 00 like it was nothing. I actually ran out of money, and had to use my credit card the last 2 nights. That has never happened before. We are going to need a new spot real soon. The problem is that the termas are too expensive. It will cost you 150 for a night there with 1 girl and a few drinks. If you terma hop like I do, it's going to cost you 30. 00 a pop plus cab fare. The help girls will be 100. 00 plus entrance fee. All this adds up fast. Anyway, here are my rankings from best to worst: 4x4, Solarium, Help, Terma 65, Monte Carlo, Cancun and last and for sure the least is luomo. They said on cnbc that the Real should keep improving against the dollar. You better go to brazil now, because we will be at 1. 50 to 1 by December, which will make Brazil a destination for rich guys only.

Just curious, how many days did that 1500 last?

Several years ago I knew a garota from Help, she was making a ton of money when the dollar was fetching 4 reais. She wanted to get paid only in dollars, she told me that she had a boyfriend who was a big shot in finance in the US and he told her that the dollar was going to fetch 5 reais soon. Well that didn't happen and let's hope that it doesn't go down much lower now either.

I did notice on an escort site Barra vip's that they lowered their price recently, 10% reduction. Things will have to give somewhat if they are depending on customers with dollars, they will lower their prices or get nothing.

Dodger Bulldog

06-06-07, 16:35

Gentlemen, is anyone up to date with prices at 4 x 4 or Solarium? Much appreciated, Thanks.I went to Solarium Monday night. Here are the prices:

R 60 entry
R 60 room fee
R 130 garota fee

R250 total, plus drinks (Skol beer R6)

I used the coupon that can be obtained from their website for a free room on Monday nights, cutting my cost to R190. You can also get a coupon for a free room at Monte Carlo for Tuesday nights (with the same fee schedule).

Solarium had about 25 girls, and all except a handful of them were doable. But I have to say that even though I had read about the size of the bundas in Brasil, I was shocked. I know many guys love this but it is just not my thing.

These were not fat girls at all, and many were quite slender, but most had butts and thighs way out of proportion to their upper bodies. This isn't politically correct to say but some looked very odd, sort of put together like dwarfs. Seriously.

Thankfully I found one there who was under 100 pounds with a tiny ass. But she was the only with a small ass. The ONLY one.

She was cute as a button, friendly, down to earth, full of energy, and a killer in bed!

DB

Loso69

06-06-07, 17:35

40R entrance fee
5R for a beer
160R for a 40 minute programma
180R for a 60 minute programma

I'll take a quick shower, pick up my laundry & spend the whole day there again today. Heaven on earth!

Loso

Mangera

06-06-07, 18:50

I have my Solarium print outs in hand, as well as the monte carlo. I will use them next week. Dodger, I thought your report was very amusing. I have tried to explain to my buddies back in the states that many garotas in Brasil have amzing asses with a fantastic waist line.

My analogy I use with my friends goes as follows. "Gentlemen, when I hear the word " Africa ", the first image that comes to my mind is the animal kingdom. When I hear "Las Vegas", an image of a slot machine appears and I hear ching, ching, ching in the background. When I hear "Bay watch" , I see Pamela Anderson in a bikini. When I hear "Brasil", the first image that comes to mind is an incredible piece of ass that looks as though it is on steroids.
Unforunately, when I think of steroids, I think of Barry Bonds. j/k

I remember in April of 2006, I saw a piece of ass by posto novo, that I swear on my mothers grave, I could have set a glass of suco on top of it as though it were a coffee table. She hardly had any fat on her, just f**ken amazing.

In all seriousness, from my own personal exeperiences, what I enjoy even more than the bundas are how carinhosa the women can be.

Dutch44

06-06-07, 22:43

Dutch44

06-06-07, 22:49

Hi Brazilman,

I think you are right. Termas are relatively expensive. (see my other post). This is why I like the 100 RS$ escort services (2 hours). Just add another 30 Reais for taxi, and for 130 R$ you are set.

I am back from Brazil this weekend, and let me tell you, it's expensive. I went through 1500. 00 like it was nothing. I actually ran out of money, and had to use my credit card the last 2 nights. That has never happened before. We are going to need a new spot real soon. The problem is that the termas are too expensive. It will cost you 150 for a night there with 1 girl and a few drinks. If you terma hop like I do, it's going to cost you 30. 00 a pop plus cab fare......

Question: did you mean you spent 1500 Reais so quickly, or 1500 US dollars?

Dutch44

Brazilman

06-06-07, 23:14

1500 dollars for sure. I wouldnt be caught dead with only 750. 00 in Brazil. I always bring about 1500 dollars, after paying for my apartment. The first time I went to Brazil, I brought home about 500. 00, and now I'm in the red when I get home.

El Austriaco

06-06-07, 23:30

Hi Loso69,

I saw your figures on the 4x4 Termas, which averages at around 225 Reais for a single visit, 1 beer and a 1 hour session. (see below). However I still think that compared to a german FFK Termas must be relatively expensive for local Brazilians. Given that their average monthly income starts at 400-500 Reais.
Yes, the termas most frequently reported here (Centaurus, Solarium, Monte Carlos, L'Uomo, 4X4, Cancun, etc.) are expensive for the average Brazilian, and that's why they are mostly frequented by foreigners. I say mostly because Brazilians do go there and, yes, they are either located in areas where well above-average Brazilians live (Zona Sul) or in Centro, with tons of upper management employees and business owners around who earn way above the average Brazilian salary.

Talking about income, let me correct you on your numbers: what you referred to was either the legal minimum wage for the whole of Brazil, which currently stands at R$ 380.00 (came into effect on April 1, 2007), or the compulsory minimum wage for Rio de Janeiro State, ranging from R$ 404.02 for agricultural and forestry workers to R$ 486.13 for secretaries, phone attendants, accounting assistants, among other jobs. Source for all numbers: http://www.portalbrasil.net/salariominimo.htm

The average per-capita income, in Brazil, however, is USD 9,108 per annum, based on purchasing power parity, i.e. roughly USD 760.00 per month (R$ 1500.00 or so) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil). Big difference. Needless to say, income distribution in Brazil is very uneven, so while a sizable number of people have way more, millions and millions have way less. And even at an average salary of R$ 1,500, the high-end termas are still way more expensive than the German FKKs, relatively speaking.

The "high-end" termas, yes. Just keep in mind that in Brazil, every run-of-the-mill brothel is called a "termas", so the term does not necessarily mean anything fancy, not at all. And that's why cheap brothels abound, with prices that are much more affordable to João Boquete ("Joe Blow"), in areas far from the well-trodden tourist path. Or as Christopherd is demonstrating quite impressively every single day, not even all that far.

EA

Beach Star

06-07-07, 00:34

Yes, the termas most frequently reported here (Centaurus, Solarium, Monte Carlos, L'Uomo, 4X4, Cancun, etc.) are expensive for the average Brazilian, and that's why they are mostly frequented by foreigners. I say mostly because Brazilians do go there and, yes, they are either located in areas where well above-average Brazilians live (Zona Sul) or in Centro, with tons of upper management employees and business owners around who earn way above the average Brazilian salary.

Talking about income, let me correct you on your numbers: what you referred to was either the legal minimum wage for the whole of Brazil, which currently stands at R$ 380.00 (came into effect on April 1, 2007), or the compulsory minimum wage for Rio de Janeiro State, ranging from R$ 404.02 for agricultural and forestry workers to R$ 486.13 for secretaries, phone attendants, accounting assistants, among other jobs. Source for all numbers: http://www.portalbrasil.net/salariominimo.htm

The average per-capita income, in Brazil, however, is USD 9,108 per annum, based on purchasing power parity, i.e. roughly USD 760.00 per month (R$ 1500.00 or so) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil). Big difference. Needless to say, income distribution in Brazil is very uneven, so while a sizable number of people have way more, millions and millions have way less. And even at an average salary of R$ 1,500, the high-end termas are still way more expensive than the German FKKs, relatively speaking.

The "high-end" termas, yes. Just keep in mind that in Brazil, every run-of-the-mill brothel is called a "termas", so the term does not necessarily mean anything fancy, not at all. And that's why cheap brothels abound, with prices that are much more affordable to João Boquete ("Joe Blow"), in areas far from the well-trodden tourist path. Or as Christopherd is demonstrating quite impressively every single day, not even all that far.

EAWhat you are saying is statistically correct, but when considering the uneven distribution of income, don't forget that there are many many Brazilians earning incredible amounts of money as well, you only have to look at the mansions, used as second homes, in Angra dos Reis and Buzios to see this, not to mention the huge yachts you will also see. The best customers in the up-scale termas and escort agencies are Brazilians. The bottles of imported champagne at the tables in the termas are generally bought by Brazilians. there is a tendency to think that the foreigners are the ones with wealth, but if the girls were to give an honest opinion they would say that they would probably ditch any gringo for a "rich" Brazilian any time. I don't think you will find many minimum wage earners at Centaurus, for example, but nevertheless you will find many Brazilians there who could not give a f*** about the price. In Barra you will find this even more, hardly any tourists but plenty of rich Brazilians.

Mangera

06-07-07, 03:56

Gentlemen, I have always enjoyed 4x4 because I have always found plenty to choose from. I did so again today. But I must admit that the talent has gone down significantly. I don't want to make any assumptions too quickly, and just blame it on a bad not night for whatever reason. I arrived at 4:45pm, and I almost took 3 hours before making up my mind. Not good! I will be fair and give it another try next week.

As for the chosen garota for tonight, her name is Lidiane, a blonde from Natal that in my opnion had the best ass in the joint. She had a bunda on steroids. We chatted for a while during the strip shows in the upper floor lounge. Her face is ok, small tatas, but optimo service. She sucked like a hoover vacum, and took in the ass like a champ. Its been a while I have seen a gal have an orgasm from taking anal. She was not playing with herself at the time, and was totally soaked between the thighs from her squirt. I was spent afterwards. She had a great attitude, so I felt fortunate to have picked a winner. She use to work a Centurous before working at 4x4.

As for prices, it is as other members mentioned earlier, 40r entrance, 160r for 40 minutes, and 180r for 60 minutes. Being that the dollar went back up to 1.96r today, I decided to use my credit card( by the way, you can pay the entire bill with your credit card at 4x4). When I pulled out money the other day, it was at 1.90r. So by using my cc today, it helps even things out a little bit(minimize the damage).

By the way, it cost me a total of 5,60 r to and from my apartment in Ipanema to get to 4x4. Big difference in comparison to a taxi. Just another way to combat the weakening dollar. It was easy, just take omnibus that says Sequiera Campos, then from there go into Metro station, and take metro to Uruguagiana Stop( for gods sake, aside from saying the stops in portuguese, it is also said in english). Go out of metro station, make sharp right, go 2 short blocks to Rua Buenos Aires, make sharp left, go 2 long blocks past a major intersection(rio Branco), stay on the left hand side of the street, and you will see the 4x4 sign above.

I leftaround 8:45pm, and there was still alot of people in the street, so it seemed safe enough to walk to the metro station. But please, if you are not familiar, just take a taxi. Also, if you are going with friends, and you can split the taxi 3 ways, then thats a great idea too. But I have actually always enjoyed the bus/Metro trip. I have a couple of dates lined up for the next couple of days, so I will not be reporting on anymore termas until I hit Solarium next monday or tuesday. Laters!

Bravo

06-07-07, 04:23

Lidiane is my favorite in 4X4. Your right, she isnt the preetiest girl, but the ass is killer! Plus, her sex skills are crazy!!! You should get her with another girl, if you want an out of this world porno experience!!

JustGotBack

06-07-07, 06:11

If you add some more drinks or snacks, a Brazilian termas is actually more or less the came cost (in Euros) as a German FKK / Sauna Club.

I agree with you. I meant to write something about the German FKKs after my visit last year. I don't understand why anyone from Europe would come to Brazil just for sex. For the same price you can get better looking women, in my opinion, and better facilities. If anything, some of those eastern European women working in the FFKs were wilder than the women in Brazil. They did all the same things. I don't think there was anything I did in Brazil that I didn't do in Germany. In the FKKs there were easily 10-20% 9-10's for my taste. In Brazil, even a few years back when the quality was much higher, I'd be lucky to find 1 or 2 and would have to settle. When Brazil was cheap, it was a no brainer. Now with the cost of Brazil vs Europe, not just the girls but lodging and flights, being about the same for me right now. The only thing cheaper is food and I can make due eating fast food. Another plus is most if not all girls in the Europe speak enough English that it's just not a problem. There's just no reason to go to Brazil instead of Europe right now. Even if you want some hot latinas since all of the hottest ones work in Europe and not South America now. I remember when the talent drain started and I asked them where they were going. They said Europe or Mexico.

Jan 156

06-07-07, 08:18

(i don’t think there’s anything very new in this report. not sure why i’m posting it. kind of winding down and savouring i suppose. thought i’d mention this in case you want to just skip it.)

it’s around 10pm on a wednesday night. my first thought had been a mid-range place like aquarios (which has some very nice girls) or maybe florida. but i have second thoughts and decide to be economical - but to try the same area (at least as a first intention).

i nip across princesa isabel and flag a praca maua bus. the bus is trying to break the land speed record (a not uncommon hobby). it ignores me and several other arm-wavers. a centro bus with rodoviaria on it is also coming. i jump on without checking whether it will go all the way to maua (i figure that to get to rodoviaria novo rio, the intercity bus station, it will have to go either through maua or close to the other end of rua acre along presidente vargas which is almost as good).

at least it is an express (aterro) bus so should get me there quickly – non-stop from rio sul to centro. but no such luck. round about flamengo beach, all traffic drags to a crawl. passengers crane necks to see the accident ahead. i catch sight of a bus and two cars. the two dead cars are front-bumper to front-bumper. lots of other debris in the road that hasn’t been cleared yet looks like it could be from a third totalled car. i never understand why people think taxis are safer. given that buses here are built like tanks, i know which i’d rather be sitting in come a crash. i treated myself to a taxi last night as a treat. good price – 21r from mimosa at night. as he put his foot to the floor in the tunnel i glanced at the speedo. not working. i amused myself by counting the things that were missing or not working. the funniest part was the way the car’s back tires slipped out on the dry road. as if someone had taken an electric sander and smoothed any tread off. he handled it gracefully. sort of like an ice-skater.

so, slightly late, but the bus does go past maua. drops me at the far side of the square. i thought i might as well check on florida and scandinavia for isg and looked in (10.30pm). scandinavia: so dead i think i could have argued for free chopp. florida: slightly better – maybe 6 girls, one of them nice. a heavy set man glares at me for even thinking of making off with his prize. lots of guys sitting around drinking beer and waiting for god to do something.

sod this. i walk down rua acre. a bit on the quiet side, but i sense it is not really dodgy. several late night cafes are doing some business. the termas are easier to spot than in the day. red lights seem to be an international sign language.

it´s 10.40pm. i try the two almost opposite in alcantara machado (a small side street off acre). no.31 wants an entry fee. i ask for a look first. ok. it is humming. but mostly with guys. and the girls i can see are not that hot. i smile sweetly and exit across the road. the situation at 48 is even worse. no entry fee, but the place must have 20 or so guys and i can only spot one girl. next.

south end of acre. across the road uruguaiana 145 (afrodyt) is just putting its shutters down to close shop. i try 5 leandro martins, just off the beginning of acre, where i had such a great time the other daytime. up the stairs and into the big room. definitely a party atmosphere. one girl is just opening a big bag of cuddly toys. but the same problem – ratio of guys to girls is not the way round i prefer it.

dilemma. fork out money to go posh (aquarios or mv30), or call it a night here and move on to mimosa? i reason that i could spend money to get into those places and still have the ratio problem, whereas mimosa is so big there’s always something, no matter how busy (well, nearly always).

now if you have only ever gotten taxis to mimosa, try getting out before the taxi turns off the main road. a) it is good for your street cred, and b) you pass that foul smelling canal and, after that, mimosa smells damn sweet!

it is pretty busy. i think the reason the town is hopping is that it is a holiday tomorrow. brasil has probably more holidays than any country i know. i find it so welcoming after the fruitless hunt around maua and acre. music blaring. the smell of barbecues competing for attention of my nostrils. the girls look happy (it’s busy). lots of the smaller casas are open. the electric tattoo guy is doing great business. kisses from on or two girls i know. i do the u-alley to ´warm up´. i’ve got some of those new cool laminate mints and surprise one or two girls with them (they have quite a kick!) my dick is following this extremely cute girl whose pert little breasts are supported by a push-up bra that is a size too small. so her nipples are spilling out. very nice. i am like a dog on a leash trying to catch up. she tries a couple of casas with her pal, moving at quite pace. then settles on the newly refurbished one with tablecloths and flowers. now i see why. it has a pack of hunky young brasilians that look like they are just out of a junior football team. miss perky tits goes nonchalant and gets the attention of every one of them instantly. i go hard cheese and carry on round the circuit.

a monger friend i was with described mimosa the other day as the wild west. i kind of reserve that for nogueira (which is a hell of a lot more unpredictable). but i see what he means. this endless succession of bars. all with half naked women willing to go upstairs with you. some have billiard tables. most have music. all have cheap beer. cleaning up is done only once a day. business is 24/7.

have you ever seen the back of a girl’s head and just fallen over yourself to know if her face was as good?

i saw j------ as i made the second round of the u-alley. she hasn’t seen me and i stand there for a moment admiring her back, the flawless skin. her long hair is in perfect condition and i know it is going to have that freshly-washed smell. i amble past, hoping my school chemistry lessons will help the skies open. they do. she locks her gaze with me. a combination of coyness and desire. i am enjoying it and also taking in the rest. across her perfect breasts is a white, wide-beaded wrap that presents every inch of her assets in glorious, copa-tanned detail. for a flicker of a second i remember the frustratingly intricate attention girls on the beach pay to getting their tan just right. but here the result speaks volumes. i cannot quite remember what intro i use but soon i have paid my 25r and am heading to the stairs.

careful! she smiles as she shows me a metal bar jutting out of the stairwell that could take me eye out. and again! a low one that could give me a headache for days. i just love the way someone this good can create a bubble, a world apart. the image in her head that draws me in will have no used condoms on the floor, no overflowing trash can in the corner. no rush to get the job done. just little gentle glimpses of shangrila.

as we get to the top of the stairs reality threatens to intrude. there are only three cabins and there’s a queue. she pauses, then puts a finger to her lips and disappears for a minute. when she returns she opens the gate to another floor. she urges me in front of her as i climb to whatever the darkness above will reveal. it is a sleeping quarters. she puts her patterned sheet down, like an angel laying a picnic. she pushes the door closed, but leaving it open just a bit so some light comes through. she leans back against the wall and smiles at me. i sink on to the bed and her swollen nipples are at the height of my lips. each quite delicious. (for techies, i should mention that some expertly included silicone has possibly assisted the goddess look.)

i spend a while exploring her body. don’t know what she uses on it but it smells faintly of roses. her skin is firm and soft. her hair against my face is like being in one of those teen movies where you are the guy with the perfect girl. when i enter her, we only do two or three different positions. this is largely because we are on the lower bed of a bunk bed and there is not much space! while i am top, i use a free hand to play gently with her clit. she moans gently a bit. (i should also mention in the interests of accuracy that she chewed gum continuously – a habit that i find only slightly better than smoking beforehand or answering a cellphone during.) it’s going quite well.

you know when you get a finger in a girl’s ass and it comes out smelling faintly of soap that she is at least on very friendly terms with that part of her body. i have only once been offered anal at vm (¨oral, vaginal, anal¨ was the sales pitch). i would prefer more comfortable surroundings. i make a mental note to invite j----- to hotel canario next time. and get her phone number to make sure when she’s on and available (every day except sunday, she says).

some of the other girls have caught onto the idea of using the sleeping quarters and now they are wanting the room. twice. we are trying to keep it open enough to have some light for fun but closed enough to keep people out. it’s getting distracting, but hell, we’re well over time. (if you do this at mimosa, f*ck with your head nearest the door for security, rather than putting your clothes by the door and your head the other end. should go without saying unless you are as dumb as i was once.)

i get her phone number as she dresses. will she give me a photo? no, she says, coyly as if slightly shocked. i wait till she’s fully dressed. so many guys come here and say to me, why have i been paying two hundred a pop for girls like this?? so i suppose i want a photo for the wrong reasons. to brag. shame on me. she is polite but adamant. i’ll try again when negotiating canario. and the back door thing of course!

j------ has given me a good seeing to but it seems expensive to me to come all this way and only see one girl (am i mean? – see the bill at the end of this report). i get some food. a guy i have seen here for years with a barbecue has moved up in the world and has a covered food stall. the look of achievement on his face is pretty humbling. i go for the double chicken fillet kebab, chopped and served on a plate with salsa. he wipes down the battered plastic table cloth with pride.

i decide to have a wander round. one of the alley ways has special memories for me. the only thing is, it is only wide enough really for one person and there are usually several girls at the entrance and one or two on the way along it. (there’s three casas off it – or is it four – if you go far enough.) half way along a large lady accosts me gently. she has melons that could make a fruit vegetarian of me. she is standing so i will have to brush against them as i cross a small step. this girl is young and beautiful. just a little large. and in the tiny cabins i do like to have room to maneuver. but right now she has me entranced. smiling knowingly, she pushes her chest forward slightly as i squeeze past. i don’t rush it. but i digress . . . no-one worth doing that i can see in these cabins. i come back and fat jazz lady is waiting for me. i pause as we eye each other. she presses against the wall as if to let me past behind her. my hand wings her thigh. she is keeping up a low gentle cooing patter trying to persuade me, but not in the least pushy. i let my hand linger as the other one goes for the other thigh. with this encouragement, she adjusts her position until she can grind my crotch with her buttocks. all just a nice to be nice . . .

ok, she has convinced me i am not that spent. but who to vent my lust on? several of my favourites are nowhere to be seen. i do the circuit again. a big, inebriated, sadly dressed tourist is doing an impression of tony christie, swaggering to amarillo. the object of his attention, a very petite girl in a salsa-ish bikini, is motionless as tony-rillo dances amorously towards her. realizing at the last minute that his bonhomie has not worked, tony-rillo waltzes past her into the bar. she lets out a sigh of relief then sees i have witnessed the incident. we let out a simultaneous burst of laughter. i have noticed this lovely girl a few times but this is the first time i have seen any real expression on her face. we’ve bonded. i tell her i’m tired (cansado – always a good excuse to play for time). cansado? she repeats, clearly not believing me. instead of trying to persuade me she draws me in with her frivolous smile. i desperately want to kiss her. she can sense my desire. cansado? she repeats again, her voice stressing the disbelief.

cabin time again. she’s 22. looks about 19. we can hardly stop giggling. with j------, the images of looking at her had filled my head as we did the deed, spurring on my fire. but with this girl it is like a voyage of discovery. same brand of condom. but this time i can feel every ripple inside her vagina. i just want to explore the sensations. i enter her very slowly, savouring it. i love it when time seems to slow down like this. bustling activity outside. people eager the cubicles. yet for these few minutes, as we make love it is like time we have is endless. and she let’s me take photos <mischievous grin>.

now i am whacked. but on a cloud. but still alert enough to adjust the contents of my pockets before going home (i count the 50 yards from the bus to my apartment in copa as a higher security level than the 150 yards from mimosa to the bus stop this end.) a [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) behind the lorries and i am all sorted.

the traffic is not that heavy at praca bandeira. i sprint across the freeway and get hooted by a motorist. images a year ago of a splattered body i witnessed on this very road. memo to self – don’t get cocky.

stand for a bus no more than two minutes. it’s 1.30pm.

cost of evening
girl j----- 25r
girl b----- 25r
tip 1r
meal 5r
two soft drinks 4r
3 buses 6r

total 66r

Loso69

06-07-07, 08:33

I live in Belgium, so the FKKs are just a short and cheap train ride away. Yet I’ve never been to an FKK and am currently in Rio. Why? Because I collect pictures of the girls I fuck. I always ask in advance and never fuck a girl without getting pictures first. Impossible in an FKK. No problem in Rio. Until today, when 3 girls in a row from 4x4 turned down my request for pictures, before I finally met 2 girls who didn’t have any objections.

Loso

Loso69

06-07-07, 08:44

I hate the apartment I’m staying at. 70 USD/day. Totally bare. No hot water! I want out!

I just had a look at the Accor hotel site and they’ve recently opened an Ibis Hotel in Centro. Brand new hotel for 99R/day with WiFi connection. I called them to ask if there was a joiner’s fee, and there isn’t.

Since I spend most of my time in Centro anyway, I wanted to stay in Centro, but people recommended against it. I’m considering moving to the Ibis Hotel tomorrow. Your thoughts?

Loso

Dutch44

06-07-07, 20:10

Hi JustGotBack,

Yes, the german FKKs are quite amazing places these days.

I agree with you. I meant to write something about the German FKKs after my visit last year. I don't understand why anyone from Europe would come to Brazil just for sex. For the same price you can get better looking women, in my opinion, and better facilities. If anything, some of those eastern European women working in the FFKs were wilder than the women in Brazil. They did all the same things. I don't think there was anything I did in Brazil that I didn't do in Germany.

I went to some of the Rio Termas and liked 4x4 the best. There were plenty hot girls there. Although there are many hot FKK girls in Germany (and some of them Brazilian), I personally still prefer the Rio Garotas. Also the fact that you can take them out, or take a Help or Escort girl out and spend a whole night appeals to me. You can forget about that in an FKK, or spend euro 750 or more for a single night.

However the girls quality in the German FKK is good, hygiene is very good, food and drinks are usually free (included in the entry price of euro 50-75) and the services provided are the same as in Brazil. When comparing that, plus the relative price, I think the FKK places win.

When we speak about Rio Escorts however it is a different matter. I have not found any place world wide where you get such good quality for 2 hours or more, for a price of less than 30 euros per hour! (typical Rio Escort = 100+30 R$ for 2 hours).

Dutch44

Dutch44

06-07-07, 20:14

Hi Christopherd,

(I don’t think there’s anything very new in this report. Not sure why I’m posting it. Kind of winding down and savouring I suppose. Thought I’d mention this in case you want to just skip it.)

It’s around 10pm on a Wednesday night. My first thought had been a mid-range place like Aquarios (which has some very nice girls) or maybe Florida. But I have second thoughts and decide to be economical - but to try the same area (at least as a first intention).........etc....

Greats and very detailed reports Christopherd. Just keep posting them, even if you are not sure why....

:-)

Dutch44

Grinder62

06-07-07, 21:58

Loso69

06-08-07, 02:49

Grinder62,

Thanks for the recommendation. Since the Centro termas are closed 3 out of the next 4 days (today is a holiday; Saturday & Sunday), I decided to stay in Copacabana for now. But I'll be moving to the Ibis Hotel on Monday.

BTW, I walked over to Monte Carlo tonight. Closed! Since Solarium is owned by the same people, I guess it's closed as well. Pana NYC recommended skipping L'uomo, so no termas visit today.

The escort agencies are open for business, though. Spent 2 hours with Pamela from Karla Models this afternoon. Not a pretty face, so I spent a long time drilling her ass. :)

Now waiting for Heloisa from Malu Models. The receptionist said she's very pretty. We'll see...

Loso

Dodger Bulldog

06-08-07, 06:34

We have all seen that Christopherd is a gentleman and a scholar, not to mention a world class monger. I can now attest that he also makes for a good friend and a great tour guide.

After swapping stories and sunning on the beach today, he taught me the bus route and showed me the ropes around Vila Mimosa.

I have to say that after all I have read here, I found VM to be actually be a touch more upscale than I had come to expect. It puts to shame "La Linea" in my old stomping grounds of Guatemala. I guess that it should since it costs six times more to get laid here...

Still, R 25 isn't going to break the bank, so we each went off in search of a gem. They are not lurking around every corner, but there are definitely some lovely garotas to be found.

I was blinded by a very sexy young thing and laid my money down a bit too quickly. Once in the room (tiny, filthy, with a torn narrow mattress) Marceli let me take a photo of her backside, but wanted an extra R 30 for one of her face. She was quite fetching, but I wasn't inclined to pay that amount.

She didn't see any need to remove her top but I talked her into doing so. It was my only success.

She spent about 30 seconds giving oral, while scrapping me with her teeth three times. Then she hovered over me, and before making any effort to insert my member inside her, she hurtled her body down onto me full force, smashing my cock and bending it backwards. I had to push her off to stop the pain. It still smarts just a bit as we speak...

She was already scolding me to hurry, time was almost up. But I was in a state of pain rather then one of excitement. She tried stuffing my now soft member in, went up and down twice, called "times up," and left the room.

Total elapsed time: less than five minutes.

The worst service I've ever had. Well, probably that honor belongs to the crack w**** in the US who stole my wallet and hopped out of the car to duck into a crackhouse before ever touching me. But this runs a close second.

Christopherd had a pleasing time with his blonde, so I certainly don't mean to impugn all the girls at VM. You pay your money and you take your chances.

Marceli actually tried to hustle another R 5 for this photo, but I wasn't about to pay another cent after the treatment I received.

DB

Dodger Bulldog

06-08-07, 07:12

Upon returning home, Christopherd familiarized me with the local neighborhood around Leme.

I took his advise to stop in Cervantes for their famous steak, cheese, and pineapple sandwich. Delicious! Those shops up in Philly could stand to learn a thing or two.

I wandered around a bit then stopped at Balcony to practice my Portuguese, nurse a beer, and doctor my wounds.

It wasn't too very long before a pleasant morena named Juliana came up to chat. She was not one I would ever have an interest in, but she managed to laugh at all of my jokes despite the immense language barrier. Or maybe because of it.

I didn't want to get her hopes up. I made it eminently clear to her that I was already spent for the day and could never get it up again, so she would be best to find herself a prospective paying customer. She chose to stay and chat.

I couldn't beat her off with a stick. She begged to go to my apartment, but I told her I had no interest in sex and wasn't going to pay her for her time.

She said that she liked me so much she wanted to go for gratis. Of course I didn't believe her, so instead of leaving with her I ordered another beer to linger over.

Juliana continued to insist on going home with me for free, so I finally put her to the test. Once in my room her clothes came right off. After a short photo session she was asking for sex. I told her that I just couldn't do it, I was still sore from earlier, but maybe I could handle a blow job if she was real gentle.

I didn't have to tell her twice. She was on it. She had a nice technique.

Afterwards she asked for sex again, and I just had to laugh. I gave her two photos of herself, some lipstick, blush, mascara, R 20 for taxi fare, and an American coloring book for her 4 year old. Juliana seemed to go away happy.

It was such a completely different attitude then the one I had just experienced at VM.

Damndest thing. I still can't quite fathom it.

DB

Sprite13

06-08-07, 07:41

Check out this link and you'll see what I'm talking about!

Video From Olimpo
http://www.brightcove.com/title.jsp?title=926353624&channel=769758472&lineup=931927134

This will give you a very good look at what these parties are like, but I say the favela outside parties are better more natural. Hope I helped you a little.

Thank you so much for posting this link!!!Truly appreciated! Damn!!!Gotta get to one of those Baile Funk parties next time I'm in town!!!! One question: is it safe to go to these bailes or is it necessary and strongly advised to go with a local? I would assume the latter but if one were to go there alone, would it be dangerous?

Dodger Bulldog

06-08-07, 07:52

Catching up on old news:

My friend and I were having a drink on the Veranda outside of Help, just chatting and people watching. It was his last night in Brasil so I was in full wingman mode, hoping to get him laid.

It was well after midnight and the disco crowd was gone when another round of Help groupies showed up. I noticed an especially lovely one outside the perimeter on the sidewalk, and waved her over. She seemed a bit shocked, verifying twice that I wanted to talk to her before coming up to us.

I got the conversation started, then manuevered my friend to sit next to her under the guise a taking their photo. I left them to chat for a bit before returning.

When he went off the the bathroom I explained to her that I very much wanted to do her, but it was his last night so tonight was his turn. I took her phone number and told her that I would call her the next day.

My friend was too drunk, so it didn't work out between them. When I called Vanessa the next day, she remembered me and was happy to come see me. She told me over the phone that she does not do TLN.

She actually arrived 30 minutes early, and was just as pleasant as before. I found her to be a bit on the timid side and showing some anxiety. She refused the offer of a drink, asked that I shut the music off and turn down the lights, and questioned whether I had a video camera running.

For some reason she was especially self-conscious about her breasts. It took a while to convince her to remove her hands completely and allow me to replace them with mine.

After I gave her a full body massage, Vanessa showed that she was an incredible kisser and we had a make out session for over half an hour.

Then she really got into oral. So much so that I felt she was tryng to make me come before sex.

I don't believe that Vanessa really wants to have sex, and it was pretty uninspired. But she was beautiful and sexy enough that it was plenty good for me.

I enjoyed our time, and as I said, she was quite pleasant, but the feeling was lacking at the end. I won't repeat with her.

DB

RioFavelaboy

06-08-07, 08:46

Thank you so much for posting this link!!!Truly appreciated! Damn!!!Gotta get to one of those Baile Funk parties next time I'm in town!!!! One question: is it safe to go to these bailes or is it necessary and strongly advised to go with a local? I would assume the latter but if one were to go there alone, would it be dangerous?No problem Sprite, If you can speak portuguese I don't think you'll have a problem at all. it's just that most of these people probably haven't seen a real American in their lives but I don't think it'll be a problem, I did go with my girl but we had to split up upon entering due them having a male and female entrance, I was not even noticed as an americana.

They do a complete search of you but like I said they missed my camera this night, Via Show is much more thorough than Olimpo, just be careful and respect that some of these girls are there with Boy Friends, but the ratio is in your favor, and most of all remember that these girls are true carioca and not at all like Help girls trying to get your money. They are out to have a good time and as you saw on the video thats what they do.

Never once had a since of fear or felt like I was in any danger, this place is well lit up with thousands of people everywhere.

Enjoy my ISG brother!

Almotu

06-08-07, 08:58

Very nice illustrated reports. I have heard bad stories about Balcony 'freebies', so I am glad you did OK. Hey, did you ever consider that maybe you're a STUD!:cool: Lol.

Keep up the good work. BTW, what did Vanessa cost you?

RioFavelaboy

06-08-07, 17:41

thank you so much for posting this link!!!truly appreciated! damn!!!gotta get to one of those baile funk parties next time i'm in town!!!! one question: is it safe to go to these bailes or is it necessary and strongly advised to go with a local? i would assume the latter but if one were to go there alone, would it be dangerous?no prob sprite13, i don't think you would need to go with a local if you speak portuguese, but i highly suggest it if you don't. i went with my local girl who lives about 15-20mins from there, we drove, found parking and bam went right in 10r, but they have seperate entrances for male and females, they do the whole search thing to confirep001e cameras and such which they'll give back at the end of the night when you leave.

once in you just have to remember you are not at help and these girls are tru carioca's and are there to have a great time just respect the ones that are there with their boyfriends, and you'll search and see these girls out there in packs just shaking that wonderful brazilian bunda all over the place!

remember too that most of these girls have never seen real americans, outside of television! so if you speak the language you will go alot further, and man they get nice and full on drinking!

i never once felt i was in any danger inside or outside of the place, either at olimpo or via show, it's just that via show is just like going to a concert 8000 people dude!

sprite13 as with anywhere you travel to we all have to proceed with cation but i don't see you having any problems, the distance from copa to olimpo is about 45min just to give you a scope on how big rio actually is, i'd set a price with the taxi driver if you are traveling from copa or impa they will do that, it should be no more than 55r.

enjoy sprite13, any questions bro just hit me up, you i think after you go you will appreciate the beauty of brazilian women a hell of alot more.

Pana Nyc

06-08-07, 19:42

Dodger Bulldog

06-08-07, 22:03

Some more catching up:

Despite all of the chidings and warning on this board, I had to check out Help. There is nothing I love more than a meat market.

Maybe it is just me, but I was a bit disappointed. Help just didn't seem to have the intimacy and charm of such noted establishments of La Dolce Vita in Cartagena or the Blue Marlin in San Jose. I guess I am just such an old fool, but I was craving the romance.

I spent a few hours sipping and circling and eying the merchandise. The only ones who seemed to respond were old enough to be my daughters, so I had just about decided I that I would pass if I couldn't develop interest from someone quite younger.

As I made my final swing a decent looking blonde hopped out from the dance floor to ask for a light. She introduced herself as "Melissa" and took me by the hand over to a table and proceeded to seduce me in slowly. I think we all enjoy being seduced.

Although a bit aged at 29, she proved to be a perfect salesman, and made sure to garner a series of small "yeses" to shape my responses. "Would you like to dance with me?" "Would you be so kind as to buy me a drink?" Then she moved in for the close.

After we strode into my apartment I stepped out of my shoes and stuffed my socks inside them. A curious one, she started to reach to see what I had done, which freaked me out. Now I realize that she had no way of knowing that I keep some backup cash stuffed inside my socks, but her actions spooked me nonetheless.

She asked to hang her boots on the ledge outside of my window, to "air" them out. When I told her just to put them in the corner she continued to insist. It crossed my mind that this could be a sign to a confederate who might have followed us here.

After showering she came out to show off a body far beyond what I had imagined. She had covered herself far too well inside the club, as I would never have guessed that she would verge on being a 10 below the neck.

She instructed me to shower, but I told her I was clean and would just wash off my genitals for her. She said that was not good enough and demanded that I shower while she fixed me a drink.

BRINNNNNGGGG. All the alarms were going off now. I removed her boots from the ledge, sat down on the bed, and calmly told her that I was no longer confortable with her in my room and asked her to leave.

She acted shocked. "Now that you have seen me naked, you don't like my body and you ask me to leave?"

Nothing could be further from the truth. I was coveting her body.

After some discussion she refused to leave without being paid. I told her she must leave now or I would summon the police. "Melissa" proceeded to call my bluff.

She joined me on the bed and told me that she would like to speak with the police. Please call them.

Now I was stumped. I had no idea what the number was for the police.

She returned to the bathroom and locked herself in. That was an especially provocative act, as I was feeling the need to take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140).

I figured out how to call down to the doorman and asked him for help. He didn't seem the least bit interested in helping.

Would he come up and help remove her from my room? Não.

Would he call the police and tell them I need assistance? Não.

Now fresh out of ideas, I was reduced to melodrama.

But senhor, you don't understand. I think this woman is on drogas. I think she is planning to smash the television, and trash the room. Call the police. Help me please!

This prompted "Melissa" to come out of the bathroom. She was sneering at me and calling me loco.

"You have my purse in my room. You have my documents. I am small woman, and you are afraid of me. I am a beautiful woman, standing here before you naked. Yet you dare accuse me of violence? Of drugs? I have done nothing to deserve this except to wish to make love to you."

Well, she was making some sense to me. I began to soften. Okay, I said, let me see your papers.

Her real name was Andreia. She said that she lives two hours away because the rent in Rio is so much higher. She works at Help four nights a week, always choosing someone who offered her TLN so she has a place to sleep. She had nowhere else to go at 4:30 in the morning.

Always a rescuer at heart, I was beginning to melt.

I explained how she had shown all the signs I had read about concerning the girls at Help who drug men's drinks and rob them blind. When my mother was concerned that I was coming to Rio, the land of crime, I had promised her that I would be very careful and return home safe.

Andreia said she understood my concerns, as she had promised her mother she would always be careful around men. Andreia agreed that there are girls like I described working at Help, but insisted that she is not one of them. She is just trying to earn an honest living to support her daughter.

I offered to lock her papers in my safe and keep them until I approved of her to go. If she would agree to that, then we would have sex and she could spend the night. It seemed to be a reasonable compromise.

Andreia was absolutely fabulous in bed. We spent over two hours in various positions. I especially enjoyed all the places she explored with her tongue. Considering that it was 5 in the morning, she still seemed able to relish her work.

I wish these Brasilenas would teach all the girlfriends of the world how to do oral with such vigor.

As we were fading off to sleep about 7 AM, she told me that one thing I should know about her is that "girls don't like to have more sex in the morning."

Not a problem, I said, as we will sleep until noon. I will wake you for sex at 12:01.

But it is she who woke me at exactly 11:59, informing me it was time for her to go and asking for me to return her papers from my safe. I inspected the room, and finding that all appeared to be in order, I bid her farewell.

Now, I have no idea if she is truly one of the piranhas from Help and that I had tamed her with my defenses, prompting her to play it straight.

Or maybe she was a good girl all along and I was much too on guard. I guess I'll never know.

Would I repeat with Andreia? Absolutely. Her face is just kind of all right, but though these photos are not revealing, trust me when I tell you that she has a body to die for. And her service, skills, and performance were incredible.

You can see in the first photo that she was still in her "sneering" mode, LOL.

DB

Chris H

06-08-07, 22:24

Routard

06-08-07, 22:55

Bravo

06-08-07, 23:22

Hey Dodger Bulldog, I know a couple of guys might laught at you, but I am a FIRM believer in following your gut!! 90% of the time when you ignore your gut reaction to a situation, you find yourself in a world of shit! You did the right thing by being suspicious, glad everything turned out okay for you (with the exception of that whole "Girls dont like sex in the morning" thing)

Mr Enternational

06-08-07, 23:37

IMHO Dodger stayed on his toes the way all mongers need too. He did not let his guard down for one second until he had her documents tucked away in his strong box. So if something would have went down then there would have been some type of lead to start with. I think that I will start using that technique.

He kidnapped her by holding her papers no more than the last hotel I stayed at in Barcelona kidnapped me by requiring me to leave my passport until I checked out. She was free to go at any time. Remember he was trying to put her out of the apartment, it was her who refused to leave. From the story, I saw no way in which Dodger overreacted. He saw the signs and promised himself that he wouldn't be the next victim. It doesn't matter how big or small the female is if she knows how to let the tranquilizer pills and drops or bandito friends do the dirty work for her.

Dodger,

No offense, but you asked a woman to get out alone at 4.30 in the night just because she asked you to shower? You threatened her with police just because she had asked to put her boots on the balcony? You kidnapped a naked woman till 12.00 by keeping her documents locked in your safe?

What risks do you think she takes every night going with strange men? I feel sorry for her. All you need to do is put your own wallet and expensive items in the safe. Yes, of course, take care for your safety, but respect the women too. Don't you agree having overrreacted a bit?

El Austriaco

06-09-07, 00:07

Dodger,

No offense, but you asked a woman to get out alone at 4.30 in the night just because she asked you to shower? You threatened her with police just because she had asked to put her boots on the balcony? You kidnapped a naked woman till 12.00 by keeping her documents locked in your safe?

What risks do you think she takes every night going with strange men? I feel sorry for her. All you need to do is put your own wallet and expensive items in the safe. Yes, of course, take care for your safety, but respect the women too. Don't you agree having overrreacted a bit?
For me, there are five essential elements of successful mongering, in the order of importance:

1. Safety
2. Safety
3. Make sure I get what I want.
4. Safety
5. Making sure the girl is having a good time, too (only to make sure that she is relaxed, which should lead to better sex).

And finally, did I mention safety?

I think that is only fair, assuming that the girl will put her safety and her interests way before mine, too. Realistically.

So the risks that she is taking by going with different men, that is really her risk, and it's not like as a monger, you are not taking any risk by going with a different girl (or several ones) every night. Boa noite cinderella, setups with drugs, whatever not. Regardless of how often you've been to Rio, don't forget you are on HER hometurf. And once guns and knives come into the equation, I can't really see a big difference in terms of weak women/strong men. To say nothing of the fighting skills these girls have.

So IMHO, DB did nothing but ensure his own safety and well-being. In my experience, one simply can't be careful enough in Rio, and especially with Help garotas during a TLN deal. Personally, I would have done the same thing (or definitely insisted on kicking her out, anyway). I just don't compromise at all when it comes to personal safety. Maybe that's why I don't pick up Help chicks any more and have kissed TLNs goodbye. Personally, I am much happier that way.

But back to DB's story: the thing about DB having to take a shower and her fixing a drink for him was definitely a major warning sign. And the "no morning" sex excuse, well, that was just a common strategy to get out of there as quickly as possible, essentially turning a TLN deal into two hours.

So I can't really see how anyone could interpret DB's behavior as disrespectful. Did he give her the benefit of the doubt? No, he didn't, but that's not his job. Actually, I think it's good that he didn't. Remember, better safe than sorry. He just did what experienced mongers do: ensure that he got what he wanted and paid for: fair and square, and safely.

BTW, DB, how much did you pay? I am just curious because, in the end, you got two hours of sex plus a lot of additional hours of headaches, worrying how things would turn out.

EA

Dodger Bulldog

06-09-07, 01:12

Christopherd informed me that there is a soccer match Sunday at 4 PM at Maracana. He sent me the directions and suggested heading out in the late morning.

Anyone who would be interested in going as a group please PM me.

DB

Lorenzo

06-09-07, 03:43

By the time I got to this thread, several mongers have voiced their opinion as to whether DB handled it right with Andreia, and so far the vote seems to be 3:1 in his favor. Well, let me make it 4:1. He reacted exactly the way I would have. I thought before he even said it himself that her wanting to hang her boots from the balcony might have been a signal to an accomplice. When she asked him to take a shower, this, coupled with the boots business, would have set off alarm bells with me too. I think he did the right thing in asking her to leave. If a garota were to insist that I take a shower, I would ask her to take one with me. If she refused, I'd boot her out. EA is right; safety is paramount. Anyway, I'm glad it all turned out all right.

I don't know how smart it would have been to call the police, so it's fortunate that you didn't. Rio police, like many police all over Latin America, are thoroughly corrupt and in effect just another gang. It's quite possible that they would have sided with the garota and may well have shaken you down. In fact, that's probable, not possible. Besides, is your Portuguese good enough to negotiate with the police? I'm not sure mine is. I know you're a veteran Guatemala monger. Remember we corresponded when I was in Guatemala and talked about hooking up, but it never came to pass? So I imagine you're more at ease with Spanish than Portuguese.

BTW, I don't believe for a minute that this girl is 29, unless she's led an exceptionally hard life. She looks like she's about 40 (which would be fine with me).

Lorenzo

Jan 156

06-09-07, 04:46

nb: this quick report is written under the influence of several skol on an empty stomach so should be disregarded by those who disagree with it ;-)

it’s a bit after seven. my repeat gfe developed some problemas. that and a heavy cold messed my day up. so i am a bit late. have arranged to meet euro100 at 4x4. out of perversity, i get the metro instead of a bus (buses drop you almost outside, the metro makes you walk). on the way i look into ba113. pretty quiet. especially considering the uru area is like a party happening - holidays and all.

i get to the moon and stars sign (4x4), on the far side of rio branco. swipe card exchanged for numbered wrist key. tip the sweet ol´ lady in the changing rooms. i can see why euro likes to make this his first stop on arrival. just as my first stop is usually vm (purely personal taste - i stay first night in tijuca, closer to the airport and within vm walking distance). but walk the length of the 4x4 bar and the mix of good vibes and soft flesh is enough to get my tired dick hard in 30 seconds. heaven. helpee without the maladros. and a hell of a lot cleaner.

there’s a us style strip show (the sort that is increasingly common world-wide) which doesn’t do anything for me personally. to me, it’s like the girls - all with standard wax and shave - watched flashdance once and learnt that the most important thing was to applaud each other for the most basic of pole moves. i go chat to euro. he knows the joint better than i do and shows me the restaurant. i kinda like this area, even if it is not really jumping at the moment. you can imagine seedy things happening. euro confirms my suspicions with his experiences as i eat the most expensive cheap sandwich ever.

one of the nice things about 4x4 is the little passageways to explore. reminds me of some european swing clubs. relax area, steam room and so on. like a grotto where every time you turn a corner there’s a gorgeous girl trying to make a special-moment-eye-contact or brush her boobs against you. (they should re-write monty python´s meaning of life to put heaven in 4x4.)

i do the bar once again. each girl is pre-fitted with various useful features, activated by touch-sensitive controls. these include spontaneous laughter at weak attempts to make a joke. adoring looks. lustful expressions. endless fascination with my body (which they wouldn’t be seen dead with outside). they all like me equally. every one of them. the programs are tripped by the angle of eye contact or brush of a hand as you pass etc. it feels very nice. very nice indeed. my only complaints is that i have to put my drink on a table. surely there should be inviting bundas of kneeling girls ready to grip my can between their buttocks? <g>

i try to get a girl away from a customer she has invested some time in, just for fun and cos she looks my type and looks nice (i can make terrible errors of judgment with women). not much luck. he can run rings round me in portuguese. she has standards. like not dumping a safe bet. i fancy the barmaid. her smile is genuine and unforced. she has that shy, furtive look that the british prize so much. but, a) she’s working, and not at providing sex, b) she’s married, and c) i have ¨i am a sex monger¨ tattooed on my forehead. dayglo colours. i suspect she may have spotted them. receptionists are not bad either. i get real and stop pushing my luck.

one of my main bitches about the posh termas (apart from unrealistic performance) is this: i have frequently been refused a facial photo. i ask two of the do-ables i chat up, but they both say this will be a no-no. i am losing interest. most of the girls are physically ok. one or two fantastic. one or two less than good. no real uglies. i spy one that looks like a girl i flirted with at vm recently. she has several visual trademarks i am too polite to give away. she eyes me with a mixture of hatred and intense paranoia (i spend the journey home replaying this incident to think how i could have reassured her quickly and kindly). the body language and the way she tracks me confirms it is the same girl. to be fair, she wasn’t doing the casas. she was one of the ´waiting line´. these are girls who are either near stunners - or who think they are - and stand in the road at vm trying to get a taxi or passing car (more lucrative than 20 mins in a dirt cabin). what’s wrong? she can probably earn about the same in a night at either place. i am not going to blow her cover.

euro is on his second girl as i leave. 4x4 is a great place. i love it. but somewhere (for me) to have my ego, thighs and cheeks stroked, rather than to get laid. unless the girl makes an exceptional connection, i need several skols or jet-lag to get excited about the overly-predictable routines.

the nice lady at the changing rooms asks if i’m tired. i say yes. then i think she deserves a more honest answer and whisper, nao, . . . saco. we share a secretive smile.

my bill comes to 67r. i get three reis change – enough for my bus home and some proper food.*

*i tell a lie. i haggle with the guy cooking steak outside frank´s bar. he wants 3r for a relatively small steak on a roll. i don’t want a frikkin roll, just some nice, juicy, medium-rare steak. we settle on 2r.

Routard

06-09-07, 11:51

Have arranged to meet Euro100 at 4x4.

Lucky bastard, Euro, you're in Rio!

Bubba Boy

06-09-07, 14:06

Jan 156

06-09-07, 14:30

I think Dodger is something of a world class monger who could probably give master classes on ¨How to get rid of a dodgy chica¨and ¨What to do when a chica tries to break your dick in half.¨ His comment about Mimosa - ¨a little more upmarket than I expected¨ had me in stitches. But then he knows another icon of the mongering world that many of us (like me) know only through the film featuring its adaptable denizens, the ¨Railroad Allstars¨. I hope to try that railway track in Guatemala sometime, Dodger - nice one!

Country Counter

06-09-07, 14:36

Good insticts, you have to be really careful with TLN, anywhere in the world. In the end the little head won though, he never kicked her out. No way that chica is 29, I'd still hit it though.

Jan 156

06-09-07, 14:44

A couple of people have asked about prices in Florida and Aquarios. Most of this stuff is already on the forum guys, even though it changes slightly quite often. But I know it´s a big one to trawl through! FYI, I paid 10R entrance at Aquarios (Rua Acre 61) and 70R for 30mins with a girl. Last post I saw on Florida (Praca Maua) prices quoted it at 10R entrance and 65R for 30mins. I haven´t taken a girl past two quick visits, but entrance was free. MV30 on Mairink Veiga) is 10R entrance and 90R for 30mins.

These sort of prices I can just about stomach when I want a quick nice bed and shower. If there´s nothing I fancy I haven´t paid much to get in anyway. The Aquarios cabin was superior to the one I had in the expensive Cancun.

These places are in the North of Downtown - ie the far side of Presidente Vargas. A couple of posts (inc mine) have instructions if you don´t know where they are, or just look on the map.

Football fixtures - hope someone joins Dodger tomorrow (I´m relaxing a bit and have a hot date Sunday). Dates advertised for the rest of the season at Maracana include 10/6 (ie 10 June) 4pm; 14/6 8.30pm; 16/6, 17/6, 23/6, 24/6, all at 6.10pm. Check my earlier posts for how to do it, or ask Dodger. Or Riotur. Games can be moved with little warning - so get your ticket early in the day to confirm and monger in nearby Mimosa till the match.

Euro100

06-09-07, 16:08

I also support Dodger Bulldog strongly. This is an excellent example on what to do in such a situation. I just put it into the Distinction category. Bubba has a good point that throwing her out would have been the proper action, but that also leaves you without sex for a night. So there is a dilemma.

Locking her papers in your safe does not protect you, of course, if she drugs you. All she has to do is to find the key after she knocked you out. Even if you have hidden it well, she still knows that it is somewhere in your room.

In defense of Routard: I know him from mongering in Germany; he is just a great guy, and always looks for the good in every provider he meets. This has served him well in his mongering experiences. So I know where he is coming from. But please, Routard, be careful and not too trusting Rio when you get here next week. There are real dangerous sharks in these waters, even if they have very pretty bodies.

euro

Jose Lima

06-09-07, 17:24

I agree alarm bells should have gone off, particular as she wanted to make you a drink when you were in the shower. Usually your gut is right. The only other thing I would have done differently is physically throw her out of the door of the apartment, not to hurt her, but just to get rid of her. Once a woman is told to leave in my book they should are going to leave.

I was listening to the news leaving Rio last week and they stated that 52 gringos had reported being given a "good night cinderala" pill in the last year. That is they were drugged and ripped off. That is about one a week, but I am thinking the actual numbers are way higher, most probably don't want to report such a thing. Probably 10 times that or more. Hence, probably one or 2 gringos are going to get given this drug each night, hence make sure it isn't you.

I also agree with this statement. I Would not have given her a second chance. This has happend to me probley once a trip down to Brazil or colombia or DR. The best thing to do is to Physically throw her out of the room with their crap and Lock the door. She will get tired of banging and finally leave. Doesnt bother me a bit. Think about it this way. Would a brazilian monger put up with that shit?? Would he care about a sob story?? NOPE. Who are you going to feel more sorry for; her or you when you wake up with no money, passport and your rolex is gone???

Eros74

06-09-07, 18:49

...
Who are you going to feel more sorry for; her or you when you wake up with no money, passport and your rolex is gone???

I quote Jose Lima and the others as well!

Specially you can risk to lose much more than only money or rolex,judging by all the turists get robbed and some of them killed too...

DB hello dear friend!

I am happy, everything was fine, but at your place I immediately kick her ass out of the door without problems!

....
No offense, but you asked a woman to get out alone at 4.30 in the night just because she asked you to shower? You threatened her with police just because she had asked to put her boots on the balcony? You kidnapped a naked woman till 12.00 by keeping her documents locked in your safe?

Call me selfish or unpolite, but I do not risk when it is about my life...

Her alone at early morning in her city? Big problem?

Big problem is if she opens the door and let get inside her friend...or if she get crazy, I guess she will not let you know in advance..., and take a knife from kitchen...

Just an example, I am not paranoic, but after sign-shoes and shower alone, why to risk? For what? For sex? Better handjob and second day to termas with 3 girls at same time!

I do not judge you DB, I am writing only my point of view, nothing more than that!

Maybe try to be "polite" for me was to offer her something like 20 euro to leave and if she will not agree, be "polite" second stage was to take a light and say, go out or I burn your ID!

"Polite" last stage as I said kicked her out of door and bye bye!

Be polite with your friend and not in foreign, enough dangerous country..., with unknown person that has big chances to be a shark in lamb's skin!

Have big fun and wonderful sex DB! ;)

Cheers.

Dodger Bulldog

06-09-07, 22:51

Obviously, I am willing to laugh at my own foibles or I would not have posted such details.

I hoped to generate just such a discussion as we've had.

I am still smiling about the idea to start a fire and burn her documents. My good friend Lukasek is such an Alpha male!

I think everyone saw how silly it was to admonish me for threatening to throw her out and in the next breath accuse me of kidnapping her. You can't have it both ways.

The worst that would happen is that she catches a taxi in front of the building and in five minutes is back at Help stalking her next victim.

I am sure she has a Plan B for the nights when she strikes out and must sleep at a friend's house, pass the time at an all night cafe, or catch the bus home.

Just because I have known her for all of one hour, I am not about to feel responsible for where she is going to sleep at night.

As for being on the streets at 5 AM, the other night after doing a dupla from Balcony I offered to walk them back the four blocks. They told me no, it was safe for them, but would not be for me. I think they may have exaggerated a bit but I appreciated their concern.

The question becomes just how many warning signs does one need to accumulate before calling a halt to the process? I counted four: 1. She tried to reach into my shoe, 2. She hung her boots on the ledge against my instructions, 3. She insisted that I shower alone, and 4. She insisted on making me a drink after I had declined several times.

There were actually a couple other minor things that I didn't mention:

5. She had some unknown item in her hand (When I asked later she showed me it was Hall's cough drops, and popped one in her mouth.), and

6. When she asked me to smell her boots to see why they needed to air out, I noticed some kind of white pad or cloth in them. I really didn't think it would be full of choroform, or could even be effective after spending the night on her feet, but I declined to smell her stinky old boots anyway.

Seriously.

So the question becomes how many red flags should one count up before deciding to take protective measures: 10, 15, 20 or more? I think a handful is plenty, and would never question anyone who draws the line at ONE.

When in a new land, especially my first night in Rio with its storied history, I guess my internal Homeland Security Warning System is perpetually set on Orange, if not Red.

I agree that I did not believe for a minute that she was only 29. However, unless she was using someone else's papers, her documents said she was born in August '77. And you can be sure I memorized them thoroughly.

And it is only appropriate that I acknowledge the comment that ultimately the little head did win out over the big one... and it turned out to be a very nice victory indeed.

For those of you who have asked prices, I admit that I have overpayed. Andreia and another got 200, most got 150, a couple 100, and for the dupla I paid 75 each. Plus one "freebie" from Balcony.

Most guys here don't seem to have a problem spending 200-250 at a terma, and I greatly enjoyed my terma experience.

But I would rather have unlimited time on my turf where I am in control, can choose the music, take photos, and have full use of my massager, lubricants, Pocket Rocket, etc., than to have only 40 minutes in a sterile room awaiting a knock on the door.

But it sure is nice to have these choices, isn't it?

DB

Mangera

06-10-07, 00:28

I was in Vila Mimosa with a brazilian friend on thursday, late afternoon. I had been there once before last year, and I did not partake in any freaky acts. This time around, I was not interested again. Not many gdp's at that time.

I like to sit back and observe and analyze people, and human relations in general. I will be going back sometime in the near future with a couple of brazilian friends to kick back and have a couple of beers and watch the circus act- freak show. I was entertained and laughing on the inside( I do not want to offend anyone or look for trouble) without having a single beer. My brazilian friend just teases the garotas. Interestingly enough, he recognized a gdp who is from the same neighborhood he lives in ( favela). She freaked when she made eye contact with him.

Also, I had a garota offer me a blow job if I would let her use my cell to make a call. Now thats a first for me. I don't think she would have run off with the cheap cell phone, we chatted with her for over half an hour. I would have said yes if she wasn't so fat, lol, cause afterall, it was not my cell phone, it belonged to my friend.

One last note, I don't know the guy personally, but there was one guy wearing a baseball cap, and wearing glasses who stood out like a tourist from a mile away, lol. I don't know why, but I have a hunch its a member from this forum. Please becareful and watch your back. Laters!

Mangera

06-10-07, 00:43

Thursday night I had a couple of beers with a date( she is from Belo Horizonte ) at a small cafe right outside a Galleria in Leblon. The we took a taxi to Lapa and straight to Rio Scenarium. Quinta pela noite was perfect for taking a date. Alot more locals than tourist, and lots of people, but not crowded, great energy with the live samba in the background.

We ordered a plate that brings a variety of presuntos along with a side order of breaded shrimp with a mix off cheese and potatoes, just freaken tasty. Ofcourse, we a couple of more beers with the meal. Being that she is not Carioca, she is here on vacation, this was a great place to take her, because she had never been there before, and she enjoys samba and basanova very much. It worked out great. We had dessert back at my place.

Guys, I have been there solo on sat. or Sun. in previous trips, and there are some available non-pro women in the second floor dance floor, near the restrooms. They play hip hop and top 20 stuff there.

Mr Enternational

06-10-07, 03:11

I was in Vila Mimosa with a brazilian friend on thursday, late afternoon. One last note, I don't know the guy personally, but there was one guy wearing a baseball cap, and wearing glasses who stood out like a tourist from a mile away, lol. I don't know why, but I have a hunch its a member from this forum. Please becareful and watch your back. Laters!

If it is who I think it is, he actually lives in Rio and is a regular at VM.

Jan 156

06-10-07, 03:50

I kinda come to Rio for Rio, not pussy. It’s just that if I go somewhere I like pussy to be reasonably (or exceedingly) available. Rio is not (IMO) a world center of culture or cuisine, but there is more than enough for me to try and keep up (with pussy in between – or, if you prefer, in between pussy).

So today it was Bubba´s ´best foodie experience´ that drew my attention. Bit of a trip out, so it was good to have arranged it with Euro100 as company. I am not against taking garotas out for special meals, but for many of them, that have the manners and taste to appreciate a good restaurant, they have been there so many times already they know the menu off by heart and are on the constant look out to avoid other ´special´ customers. Now I don’t think you’d have that problem with Tia Palmira – it is rather of the beaten track. But I am quite serious about food. I would rather have totally honest company. More honest than can usually be found in someone I have financial links with.

But no stomach can be satisfied if lower regions are still rumbling. It’s off to VM, the knock shop that never closes. For some sunshine (and pussy). (I’ll leave you to enjoy Euro´s report in due time – I think you will find it interesting.) Nothing out of the ordinary with mine, but I’ll put some details in for those who wouldn’t bother reading about Palmira otherwise <g>.

She looks about 20. I like her sense of humour. A few minutes wait for a cabin. Whip her upstairs (no pun intended). As soon as she gets her clothes off I berate myself for not paying more attention to an obvious sign: downstairs she had been wearing a top that covered her abdomen. As most of the girls are wearing various interpretations of very little, I should have anticipated the slight stretch marks. And slightly sagging chest.

I drooped a little at this (if you’ll excuse the pun). I went into gentle-kissing-all-over mode till the urge returned. Now this girl was nice, but I didn’t fancy licking her out. Instead I rubbed my nose against her clit till it hardened and grew. Having recovered my angle, I strapped the good wellie on but she looked pained. More, she pleaded, touching my face and pointing down there. `Tempo´ I replied, wanting my full 20 minutes and at least half if it for my dick. ´Pleeeeaaase´, she begs. Now how can you refuse a lady who begs? <g> But I am only doing so much. I get on top and fortunately it works out that (sorry I don’t know the anatomical terms) I can stimulate her by moving my hips in a circular, lateral motion. (She has quite a raised pubis bone.) It also went down well when I pushed onto tiptoe to slide up and down her body a bit as I moved in and out.

This was not the hottest chick of the week. But she had a really nice nature. Very sincere. This always turns me on, whether the girl is gorgeous or plain. (Saw a lovely blonde on the way out I had had some nights ago. She was lying on a table giving her full attention to a guy in a wheelchair. She was lovely enough to have her pick of guys, This, I thought, was a great testament to her nature.)

I get back downstairs. Need a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140). They have something that once passed for a latrine. Ever had a girlfriend that liked you to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on the side of the bowl so it doesn’t make a noise? (Or are they just jealous they can’t aim straight?) Anyway, I found a whole new reason to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on the side. The floating turds looked had been there a long time. If I pissed directly in the bowl, I reasoned it might splash on me. Even with washing facilities, I didn’t fancy this before dinner (I do have some vestige of class). But just to be clear, it was the *inside* of the bowl I pissed on.

Off to get some barbecued chicken (to disguise the smell of fanny on my nose if not for any other reason). While I am sitting down, I ´watch the freak show´ as Mangera put it.

I was in Vila Mimosa with a brazilian friend on thursday, late afternoon. I had been there once before last year, and I did not partake in any freaky acts. This time around, I was not interested again. Not many gdp's at that time.

I like to sit back and observe and analyze people, and human relations in general. I will be going back sometime in the near future with a couple of brazilian friends to kick back and have a couple of beers and watch the circus act- freak show. I was entertained and laughing on the inside( I do not want to offend anyone or look for trouble) without having a single beer.

One last note, I don't know the guy personally, but there was one guy wearing a baseball cap, and wearing glasses who stood out like a tourist from a mile away, lol. I don't know why, but I have a hunch its a member from this forum. Please becareful and watch your back. Laters!

My favourite freak is the butch tranny who runs one of the casas. Bilt like a builder. With tits. Deep gruff voice. No-one should mess with her. Spilt her drink once. She enjoyed my mild panic before coming over all sweet as pie. She reaches into breast to get the change in the lewdest manner possible. Like a camp gay man taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) out of a woman’s tits.

I should ad that my reading on Mangera´s posts is tempered by my previous knowledge of his tact and broadness. Otherwise I might have read it as patronizing. There are many freaks at VM. You can spend all day watching them. (I can spend hours.) But there are many hidden beauties as well. You have to work to find them. Going with a girl at VM is not a freaky act any more than any other act involving prostitution. Several girls I have had there recently would easily be in the top third looks-wise compared with those I saw last night in 4x4. Neither is wearing a baseball cap in itself naff – it suits a lot of people (not me though). But there are usually one or two tourists that stand out badly.Mostly I think it is their attitude. Sometimes their dress.

Sh*t run out of time. Went to Tia Palmira via Alto Boa Vista (Edison Passos). Beautiful drive. 10R up on Bubba´s price. Now 59R. Taxi back to Copa (Rate 2) near enough 80R.

Mangera

06-10-07, 09:08

Brazilman

06-10-07, 10:17

Bulldog,

I think you made a mistake assuming the girl was going to drug you. #1, I always shower before I do a chick. That was not a sneaky request by her. #2 Although I never drink from a bottle I haven't opened, all you had to do was ASK her to drink from the cup she gave you, and see what she does. If she gulps it down, than fuck away. You didn't use your head. Calling the police could have been a disaster. He might have robbed you like Robin hood. You have to keep your cool, and think things through before you overreact. You need to watch more james bond movies. Anyway, I'm glad it worked out, and you banged a 10 from the neck down. That's always important. When I was in brazil, this one girl was beat up by a american monger in his apartment. She came down from the elevator with blood all over her face. The guy was a dumb ass, because the police were on their way. The rest of his vacation was going to be spent in a 6x9 cell. I never understand why mongers beat up the girls. Even if she sucks, It's only 200 reals.

Lueck Hoff

06-10-07, 12:21

Last year in July I saw the cup - final in macarana stadium in rio. It was a great event, also the quality of the game was definetely below europian standards.

I shall arrive in rio next friday for a four weeks stay, and would like to go to macarena stadium again. So if anybody is in rio the next time who has the same interest, please pm me.

English is not my first language, but communication will be not a problem.

Lueck Hoff

Lueck Hoff

06-10-07, 14:54

Last year in july I went to a soccer match in rio, it was the second game of the cupfinal. Great experience, although the quality was definetely below the
european standard.

I shall arrive in rio next friday for a four weeks stay. Would like to repeat going to the macarana stadium. Anyone who has the same interest,pm me.

Just a note : english is not my first language, but communication should be not a problem.

Lueck Hoff

Lueck Hoff

06-10-07, 15:03

Last year in July I saw a soccer match in rio in the Macarana stadium, it was the cupfinal. Great experience, although the quality was definetely below the european standard.

I shall arrive in rio next Friday for a four weeks stay. I would like to visit the Macarana stadium again. Anybody, who has the same interest, pm me.

Just a note. I am an european, but communication will not be a problem.

Lueck Hoff

Euro100

06-10-07, 15:18

OK, here is my take on 4*4 Friday night. Christopherd already painted a real good picture of how it went, but let me fill in a few details from my perspective.

I arrived in Rio Friday morning and had agreed to meet with Christopherd in 4*4 at 6 pm. By 3 pm I had completed the work I needed to do for the day and made my way to 4*4. There is now a new metro station open on R. Xavier de Silviera, and my hotel (Savoy Othon travel, $70/night on hotels.com, girl-friendly - see one of my following reports) happens to be very close to it. I get off at Uruguaina, and hoof it past 502 (Note: they have taken down their sign; so it is now real hard to find that place, if you do not know where it is.) up towards 4*4. I am hungry and don't want to eat 4*4's overpriced food. So I stop in a lanchonette and get a ham-and-cheese croissant with a guarana for R3. Good, now I am ready to enter 4*4. I get there about 4 pm, change into my robe and head for the bar. BTW, many guys leave on their underwear; I don't: your dick gets a hell of a lot more action that way ;)

I had two hours before meeting Chirstopherd and wanted to make sure that my R40 entrance fee gets waived. How to do this? Answer: take a girl to the cabin before 5 pm! This sounds easy, but there are so many to chose from. About 70 or so were in the main boite. I was visitor 41 on my plastic entrance ticket; so the numbers were in my favor. I found at least 10 eminently desirable candidates. Settled on Patricia, a very darkly tanned blond. She spoke decent English, which is partly why she scored me.

Again followed Bubba's advice and took the one-hour option. Showered together, two-way oral, 4 positions, pop, shower, cuddling. Great investment of an hour of my time! Patricia would have stayed with me, but now it was almost 6 pm, and I needed to look for Christopher.

Now how do Christopherd and I recognize each other, when we have never met? I had told him that I would wear a white headband. Yes, laugh if you want. I looked like the Karate Kid. But it sure made me stand out from the crowd. Several of the girls made karate chops my way and smiled. OK, good way to break the ice, even though I looked ridiculous. I looked around, but no Christopherd was in sight. Instead I saw Adriana and had a couple of drinks with her. Adriana looked mighty fine; so I postponed meeting Christopherd and took Adriana to the room. Excellent decision! I went with the regular room for an hour, but all cabinas were taken, and so we got a free upgrade to a suite. Sex was terrific; I have never been disappointed with the service at 4*4. Christopherd said in his report below that he feels that it's all choreographed to perfection, maybe too perfect for him. But I am less sensitive, so it's just fine with me.

When I got back to the boite a strip show was going, so I watched for a while. Adriana wanted my headband as a souvenir, and my Portuguese was not good enough to tell her that I needed it for just a little longer until I would meet Christopherd. She seemed disappointed that I wanted the headband back. It was already a little after 8 pm by now, when Christopherd finally showed and relieved me from headband-wearing duty. He was hungry, so we went to the VIP lounge in 4*4 and got a couple of sandwiches. My steak sandwich was R15 and not worth it. Christopherd and I compared war stories, and it was fun.

When we returned to the boite I saw Adriana and finally was able to give her the headband. She seemed real pleased with her souvenir. One think led to another, and we were headed for the cabina again.

All in all not a cheap way to spend an evening, but I love 4*4. Plus, this time my Rio trip is limited to 3 days; so I have to make it count.

euro

Jan 156

06-10-07, 15:56

I only mentioned this point because I typically look at things from a different perspective or angle. Even though I am not a ladrao or bandido, let's say I was and if I were looking for a target, the person I described would fit the bill.

I just advised caution because the person was alone and stood out ( at least in my opinion ), and my intentions are for people to keep their safety in mind first, then pussy second when running around places such as VM.

That´s what I thought. Curiously I was in VM Thursday afternoon too, with Dodger. (Neither of us wear caps btw lol.) But the hilarious thing was (didn´t have time to write in last report as internet cafe was closing) was that I said to Dodger, ¨I think a black baseball cap would really suit you!¨ (I meant it quite sincerely.)

On a safety level, I think these people who have not learnt to blend in are probably safer in VM than Copa (unless they go down the industrial road back to Pr.Bandeira). They just look pretty stupid.

I was trying to analyse it an one of the things I came up with - apart from getting the clothing right - is that cariocas (and to an extent Brasilieros generally) always look incredibly relaxed and laid back. They might be using 360 degree vision to watch out for trouble but they look too casual to show it. This is not hard once all your safety routines are off perfect.

Euro100

06-10-07, 17:03

As I spill out of my taxi in front of Help!, I see the familiar dance at Veranda. 30, 40, 50 garotas want to score a date without having to pony up the entrance fee at the disco. The guys are an interesting mixture of locals, experienced foreign mongerers, and a good healthy percentage of clueless tourists. The piranhas are circling! This is too entertaining to miss; so I grab a table and have a beer. At about 1 pm I decide that I need to go into Help and pay my R33 entrance fee (do I need to make another price comparison to the R26 for a shag at VM? ;))

The place is cleaner than I remember it; I have not been here for about 5 years. It is pretty crowded, but not packed. So it is easy to move through the crowd. I check out the talent level, and it is terrific. (By the way, the girl that Dodger Bulldog had problems with is also here, and … stinky boots or not … I must say that she is looking fine.) The place is really hopping, lots of people on the dace floor, and others dancing wherever they may stand.

I run into Ingrid. No surprise; she likes to go to Help! after work. She introduces me to a friend, but I forget her name right away. OK, maybe I’ll see you later. I move on. Help has an upstairs balcony, and I walk around checking out what’s going on. I run into this guy, Travis, from Atlanta, who seems to have a good time. So I stay and chat for a while. There are lots of good-looking females surrounding us, so this cool. Turns out that he and his buddies also went to 4*4 on Friday when I was there. Small world. But here is something even more small-world: As I stand and talk with Travis, Ingrid strolls by. And wouldn’t you know it, he has also banged her before. What are the odds?

I am not sure how it happened, but I start dancing/bunda-grinding with this white blond girl. Her name is Monique, and she is a ‘dancer’ at Barbarella. She wears a black little dress, open in the back, with only a red mini-thong under it. Her boobs can be fingered pretty easily and I make very liberal use of that opportunity. I am on my third caipiroska at Help!, and combined with the beers at Veranda and the many drinks at L’uomo I am getting hammered. But Monique is good fun and very much game. So I go against my better judgment and invite here over to my hotel. We agree on $100 (US); this is not cheap, but about half off her going rate at Barbarella. So fine. Both of us are a bit to wasted to really get a masterful performance in. She gives me a competent BBBJ, I go down on her. We do a few positions with condom. All-in-all pretty average sex. I am not trying to diss Monique, I was very tired and worn; so it was more my fault than hers.

After a good hour she leaves. I am actually just fine with that, because all I really want to do it sleep, and sleep alone. Monique writes down her cell number for me. I say thank you, but after the door closes behind her, I decide that I will probably not call.

Man, Rio has so many options to explore, and there is so little time. Tomorrow I already have to move on; so time is of the essence.

Of the three girls I had I find that the experience with Patricia comes in at number 1, closely followed by Rafaela, with Monique a distant third. Shows again that price is not a predictor of quality.

Euro100

06-10-07, 18:09

after having spent a total of less than r50 so far, my day (and christopherd’s, too) was getting rapidly more expensive. we walked from vm to the main street and grabbed a taxi for the ride to the tia palmira restaurant that received such high praise. we took the route through the mountains, avoiding the freeway. it was entertaining … but also expensive. r80 for the cab fare. split two ways it’s not so bad, but still.

this restaurant received incredibly high praise on this site. bubba quote another guy in his guide: “top chefs from the us sit there in awe (or hustle back to the kitchen, if they know portuguese)”. i am sorry, but i just don’t see that. it was good, very good actually. but certainly not out of this world. it was also reasonably priced at prix fix of r59. with drinks our bill came to r160 for two. not bad for great food, but not cheap either. i found the appetizers pretty tasty, in particular the shrimp pockets. the main courses were good, especially the shark, which was very tender. the deserts were fairly unimaginative.

the place was pretty empty, by the way. and transportation is a killer. another r80 cab ride got us back to the copa. oh well, it was worth a try! but i would not repeat.

we got back to the copa at 10 pm. i parted from christopherd at r. siquiero campos and went to l’uomo. i have written extensively about the atmosphere in there before; so i do not need to repeat. read here, for example, if you want: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=502255&postcount=1738
what is different now is that i have vm as a comparison. now the girls in l’uomo look all so clean and incredibly well groomed. and the music also does not seem so loud any more. you can actually hear what someone else is saying as opposed to vm. oh, and i appreciate the hot shower, the clean towels, the robe, the soap, toothbrush, and most of all clean sheets. but i better, because just entering through the door (entrance r60, reduced to r40 if you take a girl) i have already spent more money at l’uomo than in my entire time at vm.

i recognize only one face, the incomparable ingrid. i just love her, and i am glad she is still working here. she spots me, bunda-wiggle-dances her way over to me, and kisses me on the cheeks and mouth. ingrid introduces me to a few of her friends. oh, peter, the barkeep is also still the same from last year and the year before. most girls speak a rudimentary english. so there are no communication problems here. the new “baby” comes over and introduces herself. (the old one is not working any more, getting married, and pregnant.) i find this girl appealing, so i invite her for a drink. really good dfk and dick-massage on the barstool ensues. but somehow i cannot bring myself to pull the trigger and take her to the cabina. too much selection! a couple of others come over, and i am not catching the vibe. i look around the bar, and there are 19 garotas there. i am the only guy in the boite. the numbers are stacked in my favor. stacked!

it’s 11 pm. the madam comes in and most of the girls get up to dance; so there is a little more life in this joint. i ask peter if there will be a strip show before closing (they close at midnight). he says it depends on the girls. so i go over to ingrid and ask her to organize something. within 5 minutes they turn down the lights, and the show is set up. pricilla does an interesting reverse strip show, where she comes in fresh out of the shower with a towel around her head and a little silk bathrobe on. she takes both off, then rubs some sort of lotion all over her body. finally she gets into underwear, a t-shirt, shoes, and glasses, ready to go out. very interesting for a change! it seems like she does the show just for me.

five minutes later pricilla walks back into the boite and comes straight over to me. we make introductions; i ask what she wants to drink. champagne! hmmm, the little bottle is r50. but on the other side she put on the strip show just for my benefit. so ok. i said it before, and i’ll say it again: it turns me on to bang the strippers. pricilla is also an incredibly beautiful mulatta, and she and i do some heavy-duty dfk and groping at the bar. it’s 11:15, and i just give her the key. vamos! she freshens up, even though she just got done freshening up, returns 5 minutes later in her little silk bathrobe.

pricilla and i hit if off real well. i take my time to admire her naked body with my hands and mouth; she gives me an outstanding bbbj. here at l’uomo i have no problems going down on the girls, and i lick her to completion. after our session she tells me that she came twice, but i didn’t notice her other o. this is not restricted to mish this time. just the opposite. we try the entire repertoire. bunda included. the buzzer rings (40 minutes), and i am not done yet. she finishes with a hj/cim just a tad before the second buzzer rings 5 minutes later.

when we leave the room, the place is completely empty; it is past closing time. i pay my bill, and it comes to about r350. looks like i had a lot to drink! i pay in us$, because they give me a 2/1 exchange rate, whereas my hotel is down to 1.8/1.

i meet pricilla in the hallway outside and try to talk her into going with me for a night-cap. but she politely declines and says she will go to sleep. so i decide to call it a night and head home. taxi!

i tell the taxi driver the address of my hotel. as we approach that location, he is not quite sure anymore, and says “near helpee”. so i am thinking, what the heck why not. “yes, helpee”.

… to be continued

Euro100

06-10-07, 18:49

I am not a VM virgin any more!

On Saturday Christopherd and I had arranged to meet up in his apartment to head for VM in the afternoon. His apartment is two metro stations from my hotel, but I was late and decided to take a taxi (R8). We caught the bus to Maracana on Princess Isabel (R2). Bus rides in Rio are a hell of a lot of fun, in a roller coaster kinda way. We were sitting in the back and got tossed about real well a couple of times.

We got off at the right bus stop and only had a quarter mile walk to get to VM. Walked past a bike shop and biker bar; my kinda place. On the way back from VM two hours later we walked past there again, a band was playing, everybody wearing black leather, lots of tricked up bikes, cool!

OK, so around the bend we go, and I see a street that looks a lot like the back alley behind Adelita Bar in Tiujana – everybody who has been to TJ probably knows what I mean. Scummy looking street, some small puddles of unknown liquid, potholes, very hard to navigate for cars. Houses on both sides look very run down, with a few girls eying you with interest as you walk in or pass by. Christopherd has been here a few times and shows me the ropes. The surrounding casas are only the opening act, because the biggest casa is Villa Mimosa, and it is in the middle of the street. Christopherd and I sit down at a street-side bar and grill. This is a bit of a misnomer, because the bar part is a fridge, and the grill is a charcoal fireplace, where the cook fixes kebabs. I am adventurous and would not mind eating there, but I don’t want to monger on a full stomach. Christopherd and I agree to split and explore independently for the next hour and a half. Christopherd has already reported on his expereince further down http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=607547&postcount=3650

So into VM I wander. What a trip! WHAT A TRIP! VM is a roofed-over pedestrian walkway street within the street, U-shaped, with two entranced to the street. So you can simply loop it; total length about 100 yards. That walkway has small casas facing it from both sides. Different sizes, different design, all run down. Everybody plays LOUD music. It was 3 pm, way before it gets busy. I guess there were about 50 or so girls around. Somebody here called it the freak-show, and somebody else compared it to the bar in Star Wars. Yup, both comments are smack-on. If you are wearing a shirt with any kind of buttons, you are overdressed. Small groups of guys and many individuals are roaming around, some stop in for a Skol and dance and feel up the girls in one or the other casas. The girls do there best to call out, show tits or crotch, wiggle bunda, anything to get your attention. I cannot wipe the smile off my face. This is fucking awesome. I also would say that the vast majority of the girls is absolutely not doable for my taste. BUT!!! There are treasures to be found here.

I take my time, loop around slowly three or four times, eye every girl in every casa. I identify perhaps four or five desirable targets. One does a pretty competent impromptu strip for me, laughs enticingly. I find her attractive. But on my previous loop I have spotted my target. She is wearing a blue sundress and looks mighty fine. I know, I know, there could be many faults hidden under that dress, but I am willing to take a chance. The dress is open in the back, and she has a giant tattoo; Michelangelo would have been proud of it in a ceiling-of-the-Sistine-chapel kinda way. Excessive ink is another warning sign in my book, but I am prepared to take a chance. She and one other girl are working in a case that pretty quiet, and they are eating. So I make one more loop to given them a chance to finish their food. It is now 3:30 pm, and Christopherd and I had agreed to meet at 4 pm for our ride to our next destinations. So I make my move. Language barrier, what language barrier? She does not speak any English, and my Portuguese is limited to maybe 50 words. But “sexo” does the trick. She smiles at me. We go to the back; the barkeep gets out ‘the book’, I pay my R26, and he enters the transaction. Yes, this is not a typo! R26!!! That includes R1 for the condom. I also buy a beer for R3. Up we go. To call what we went to a “room” would be a laughable exaggeration. I would call it a f*ck-sty. (… as in pig-sty). The cabina is ever-so-slightly bigger than a narrow bed. There is sort of a run down dirty old futon mattress lying there. The walls stop one foot short of the ceiling. No place to wash up. Just a yucky place to do the dead. Keep in mind that she had her choice of cabinas and likely picked the best one of the bunch!

I take my clothes off, remain standing. She takes the sundress off; it was the only thing she had been wearing. What I see almost takes my breath away. She has a total killer body. Jackpot! I say “muito bonita”, and she appreciates that I make a bit of Portuguese effort. Her smile lights up the room. Incidentally, we leave the door to the stall open to the hallway; this way we have a little light pouring in, because our hump hole has no light of its own. I start a little soft caress, take my time, and she really gets into it. Man, she has the softest skin! I kiss her breasts and go as far down as the belly button. Most likely I am her first customer of the day, but I could be wrong, and I don’t want to lick another guys juices off her pussy. She proceeds to give me the most amazing BBBJ. I am so glad that I took a shower not even three hour before. Since I also shaved and put on a bit of cologne, I think I am way above average smell-wise, as far as her usual customer base is concerned. She really gets into the BJ, and I almost bust a nut.

Time to put on the raincoat, and we lay on the mattress. We decide to close the door for the main course and actually have to lift a corner of the futon to get the door to shut. No lock of course, but none needed either. This will turn into a one-position pop in mish style. It’s not that I did not want to have my back touch the mattress; I had already totally forgotten my surroundings. That’s how enamored I was with Rafaela. Yeah, I need to mention her name: Rafaela. Then why just stay in mish, you ask. Well, we got this amazing rhythm going, and our bodies just seemed to click. Perfect harmony. At first she was hesitant to kiss. And so I just kissed her shoulders and neck and cheeks and earlobes. And an occasional peck on the lips. But as we moved further along her lips opened ever-so-slightly. So I moved in, and she got interested in a lot of FK. I wouldn’t call it DFK, but more of a light teenager-making-out kind of kissing. Immensely appealing to me. And so we just keep in totally synchronous motion. I have no idea how long we did it. But in the end, when I busted a really really big nut, I felt her shudder under me. She did not want to let me off her, kept squeezing me. Then I lay next to her, and she took my hand and rubbed it up and down her body. We had nothing to talk about, but just smiled at each other, interrupted by the occasional soft kiss. GFE to perfection. I had two more pops at other places as the day and night went on, each of them was about a factor of 7 more expensive, and none was more satisfying.

Maybe it was all acting on her part. One can never be sure. But if it was acting, then she did a better job than Meg Ryan in “When Harry met Sally”. My guess is she really enjoyed sex with me. I know I loved it. When I put my clothes and watch back on, I saw that 45 minutes had passed. No knock on the door, no interruption, no extra payment. Amazing! Maybe dumb beginner’s luck on my part, maybe also due to the fact that there was nobody waiting for a cabina, and it was still early in the day and thus slow. Whatever, I loved it!

If you have not been to VM, you just need to make a point of going there just for the experience. This walk on the wild side is just a very different experience, and the mongering life is all about new experiences, isn’t it. If you get lucky and find a real gem like I did, then you just cannot beat the value!

But of course the downside was that I had kept Christopherd waiting. After apologizing to him, we moved on at 4:20 pm … more to follow.

Almotu

06-10-07, 21:43

A nice trifecta of reports. I am not a young man anymore so I got exhausted just reading about 3 pops in one day . . . LOL :rolleyes:

Keep the reports coming. Now that the dollar is so horrible, you actually got a good deal from Monique IMHO. She will get a surprise when she goes to exchange your $100 and only get $R190. :) Instead of the $R300 that it got a year & a half ago.

Dodger Bulldog

06-11-07, 00:59

Now that the dollar is so horrible, you actually got a good deal from Monique IMHO. She will get a surprise when she goes to exchange your $100 and only get $R190. :) Instead of the $R300 that it got a year & a half ago.I like how you think, Almotu.

However, I'll defer to my good friend The Great and Mighty Noguiera, who states that he has never met a working girl, no matter how early she left school and how uneducated she may be, who has any difficulty working currency conversions solely in her head to at least the third decimal point in less than two nanoseconds flat.

They just seem to have a knack for it, I guess.

DB

El Austriaco

06-11-07, 02:21

I think you made a mistake assuming the girl was going to drug you. #1, I always shower before I do a chick. That was not a sneaky request by her.
Sorry, but I disagree. Whether to take a shower or not was not the issue here. The issue was that she wanted him to take a shower WHILE she was fixing him a drink, and when he declined (which is his right), she became insistent. Might have been sneaky, might have been perfectly innocent? But why take the risk? What do you have to gain?

#2 Although I never drink from a bottle I haven't opened, all you had to do was ASK her to drink from the cup she gave you, and see what she does. If she gulps it down, than fuck away. You didn't use your head.
Yes, DB used his head. And let's just assume for a moment she would not drink from the cup she gave DB... then what? You still have to kick her out, right?

Calling the police could have been a disaster. He might have robbed you like Robin Hood.
Again, I disagree. I know, I know, Brazilian police has a bad reputation, but personally, I have only had very positive experiences with Brazilian police (and God knows, I had to deal quite a bit with them). You make it sound like the police is doing nothing but setting up innocent tourists for crimes they didn't commit, in collusion with Copa GdPs, and nothing could be farther from the truth. Unless the girl doesn't really call the police, but a specific police agent SHE knows and who works together with her. This was not the case here. Honestly, if I have done nothing wrong, I would not be more scared of the Brazilian police than the police pretty much anywhere. Speaking Portuguese and the ability to make one's point in a coherent matter, of course, greatly helps.

To sum things up: personally, I believe that the odds of being robbed by police are certainly smaller than the likelihood of being targeted by a GdP. And in Rio, it is NEVER a mistake to assume that a girl might drug you, and erring on the safe side when in doubt. Boa Noite Cinderela is real. I have personally witnessed it in 2004 in my hotel, when two French tourists got robbed that way. And judging by the news coming out of Brazil, it is just as popular as ever.

Brazilman

06-11-07, 04:27

Jan 156

06-11-07, 04:27

a bit busier than of late, but pickings are slim. a tall garota is dancing wildly in one casa, naked from waist up. i do a little forro with her and agree to go upstairs. worst i have had for a few years. might have been communication problems but to me it was like she was on ten red bulls or several lines of speed. kept jumping about and making lots of sudden movements and changing her mind about stuff. how hard is it to understand bj involves not using teeth? penetrate her briefly and she jumps up again. i thought she just wanted to change positions but no, she’s forgotten something and can’t seem to remember what it is. inspired, she gets the lube out. i point out this is unnecessary (she is well-lubed.) she’s still jumping around like she’s at a disco. i have had enough. she’s got my money. it was only 26r. she’s not getting any more of my time. i pick my clothes up and leave. (very tall girl, one of the first few casas on the right in the u-alley. didn’t get her name – she told me, but it was as undirected a communication as everything else she did except the basic dance stuff).

after that i need some tlc. head to the first alleyway and look for samantha, who always cheers me up even if she’s not a stunner. her friend says she’s not on, that she’s off sick (something to do with her throat). we commiserate together – genuinely, as i have known sam for several years. this girl (t----) is kinda nice so i work it round to amor without hopefully looking like it is unfaithful to her friend. upstairs these cabins are not bad as vm goes (first alley on the right as you come in). they are quiet, a reasonable size, and i have usually been offered the bathroom first. t---- has a beautiful face and i know i am going to enjoy looking at it as we make out. her body has a few stretch marks. but she throws in a fun striptease dance as she undresses. she makes it fun, just like samanatha. this is a no-rush place and frequented a lot by brasilians who hang out downstairs and eat here.

missionary position (i want to admire her eyes and look at her full lips before i kiss them) and i rest on an elbow so i can work my free hand towards her clit as we do it. i can only just find it and wonder if her sighs are faked as it does not seem very swollen. i take my hand away but she grabs it and puts it back. turns out she just has a very small clit. he c*nt has been doing this squeezing thing, like a throb. probably conscious muscle control but pretty nice. but after an interval of manual stimulation with penetration she goes rigid, her body quivering for almost a minute. her vagina has clamped my cock very tightly. it is a damn fine o and rather more enjoyable, i hazard a guess, than the porno moans coming from the next cabin. afterwards we hold each other. very tender. gentle kisses, cuddles, back-scratches. we chat a bit – usual stuff, how long you here for and so on. mid-conversation she says ´tempo´ - almost as if it is a question and i think she is asking about how long i have left in rio. i eventually realize she is reminding me about the time in the cabin (we are well over time) and we both laugh. i apologize but she tells me to chill out, relax and not rush. all very nice.

guaravit later and a few bottles of coke with friends from another casa. another few rounds to see what is on offer. i see one of my faves, the lovely blonde a--------- from a few nights ago. i buy her a cola. we go upstairs. her gently scented body, fresh, cascading hair, and her lovely personality make it seem as if she is a gift from heaven. i feel like a boy who has managed to do something right and has been granted a prize. she has the persona of her daddy´s girl, a mixture of highschool innocence and sexiness. afterwards she is excited to tell me something. her photo is going to be in one of the newspapers. i am not sure in what capacity but am very pleased for her (she is stunning). when we do some pics (clothed ones) she has nice poses which she shows me with glee, as if she has been trying hard to get them right. very patient as my camera jams twice, but we get them.

as i walk out, suddenly the place has brightened up. several cuties i hadn’t noticed. but sexual satisfaction is so uncomplicated. i head home for a nice cup of tea.

ps vm is cr*p. all you boys with inappropriate baseball caps please stay away. i will nobly put up with it while you are serviced in 200r places. :-)

ps on tia palmira. totally agree with euro100´s comments. some of the dishes were awesome, but many were just ok (typically too salty). i notice bubba only quoted someone else´s report, so no blame there. several errors in addition to those noted by euro100. they don´t appear to me to be serving just whatever happens to be the best fish caught that day: the menu is pre-printed and says exactly what you are going to get. the presentation could have been improved on. and there was way too much food for just two people. they seemed a bit too keen to order taxis when we were the last customers. but it is still a reasonably impressive restaurant. bamboo rafters (and bamboo blinds that could be lowered in heavy rains). lovely location. would consider going back just to chill out there for a few days. (something i have tried to do unsuccessfully at times in paraty, which can be over-run with tourist buses. but paraty does have perhaps the one restaurant i would maybe think was outstanding (for the food) that i have been to in brasil. as you approach the bridge from the historic quarter, it is one of the last on the left. reviews by conde nast and new york times proudly displayed outside. an elderly lady plays piano during your meal.

Lorenzo

06-11-07, 04:59

They just seem to have a knack for it, I guess.

DB
You would, too, if your livelihood depended on it. :)

Dodger Bulldog

06-11-07, 16:31

This is a somewhat-American-style strip club (without all the puritanical rules) just a couple blocks from where I am staying so I checked it out the other night.

They brought out their English speaking manager to greet me, and he welcomed me by waiving the R30 entrance fee (good for two drinks), and said that as a favor to me he would just have a two drink minimum (R15 each).

Wow, didn't I feel special!

The place opens at 10 PM, but really gets busy about 2 AM. There are many lovely young things (along with a few mediocre girls and only a couple far down the feeding chain).

Having poked my head into Barbarela's last week when my friend was determined to find the highest price girl in town, I would say that the garotas at Frank's Place can certainly compete at that level, and may very well be better looking as a group.

One girl is on duty dancing topless at all times, for about three songs. I learned that they are paid R10 per turn. Meanwhile, there is an open stage where many of the girls dance for fun and to show themselves off, with an occasional brave man climbing up joining them.

At 2 AM the place fills up as the night's show is about to begin. About five girls take turns coming out in costume to strip (a bride, a school girl, a police officer, etc.). A girl can earn another R10 for performing in the striptease.

This is followed by a lesbian show with three girls. Now the crowd is really rocking, and the girls on stage seemed to get pretty involved. They each pocket an additional R50 for participating in this part of the program.

Finally one of the girls and a guy perform live sex acts across the stage in multiple positions and eventually on top of a patron's table. I thought the guy looked pretty squirrelly holding a fake cock over his member while moving from position to position.

After the show the crowd thins out a bit but those who remain are partying pretty hard. About 25% of the audience was female, and it was clear that they were looking for action, even if they had come in with a fellow.

One pulled me up to dance and had her hands all over me, telling me that the guy she was with is the love of her life and she is the luckiest woman in the world, while in the same breath asking if she could be my girlfriend for the night. She said she had a female friend she would invite over if I would like to do the two of them.

But I had other ideas.

I had been smitten by Luciana, a 22 year old with firm breasts and great dance moves, who came across as both understated and classy. She was a bit on the shy side, but we hit it off well and she came back with me for the night.

In short, Luciana is the best I've had so far this trip.

She was extremely sensual and carinosa. I gave her the first turn as I massaged her and introduced her to the Pocket Rocket for her initial orgasm. After an hour she became totally focused on me.

Long, lingering kisses, a complete tongue bathing, extended oral, multiple positions... it seems like all these girls know just what to do without having to be coached. She was incredible!

I barely had time to catch my breath when she decided that I deserved to come a second time and took me back into her mouth. I didn't think I had it in me, but believe me, Luciana knew how to coax it out of me.

I offered to return the favor, and I didn't have to ask her twice if she would like another session with the Pocket Rocket. She couldn't wait.

We chatted for about an hour, getting to know each other and exchanging email addresses. Then she prepared for an hour-and-a-half bus ride home. Quite a commute to make twice a day.

Luciana is very special girl!

DB

P.S. I had my memory card out when I took the nudes, and left the camera cable at home. So you these photos will have to suffice for now.

Dodger Bulldog

06-11-07, 16:44

While at Frank's Bar I also met and chatted with Lorena, a 27 year old whose claim to fame is that she had worked in Madrid for a year.

She was very flirtatious and sensual, and stopped to visit a moment each time she passed me.

When it was clear that I would be going home with Luciana that night, Lorena offered her number. I decided to call her on Sunday. She returned the call promptly and we set up our rendezvous.

I had high expectations based on her attitude and manner in the club.

Lorena is definitely a fun person to be around, but leaves something to be desired sexually. Surprisingly, she seems somewhat inexperienced and/or tentative. Nor she does not take coaching well. Her BJ was mediocre and the sex was fairly pedestrian.

After exploring the options I decided that she would best make for a great tit fuck.

Could her time in Europe have drained the Brasilian ethos from inside her?

It just goes to show how difficult it can be to predict how a girl will be in bed.

DB

SlickdySlick

06-11-07, 18:50

Alcohol and mongering DON"T mix. ????

Who came up with that rule?? I like to drink and I like to fuck and I usally do them in that order. Dude my advice and I am a dumb ass so take it what it is worth. YOU ARE GOING TO DIE ok thats a fact right there now you can go to Rio and act like CSI when dealing with the girls which to me is no fun or you can just use common sense have good time and if you get killed hey fuck it at least you got killed in Rio which is a shit load better than getting killed in Detroit trying to shag some old ugly hag in the corner bar!!!

Jan 156

06-11-07, 23:29

jump off the bus at rua buenos aires and saunter across rio branco to ba85 (the one where the staircase gets narrower the further up you go).

1st floor of ba85 has on offer: 15r for 20mins. not interested.

on to ba113 (the one with the hideously bright pink entrance). buy a drink. catch eye of priscilla (maybe a 6 or a 7). go to the desk. ten reis. that will do me.

upstairs she gives reasonably good value. licks my balls, covered bj, several positions. and that nice bunda-shake thing. the bed has a real headboard (nice to hang onto). mattress is ok as long as don´t lose your knees in the ravines. she makes it seem quite leisurely. i take my time getting dressed. as i come out, she is wandering back with another customer. i notice a sign, `please do not [CodeWord111] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord111) in the cabins – toilets are downstairs´.

down uruguaiana, watch a new conjurer make painted symbols appear and disappear. slink into uru24. it still looks quite clean from the morning wash-down (it’s 2.45pm) and quite a few girls about, lolling off the stair-rail, accosting me as i pass, or sitting in the bars. pause on the 2nd floor to let a girl grope me. hesitate on the 4th floor for a girl to take my hand and use it to caress her body for a few moments. (freebie reminders.)

turn right into rua d.carioca. look in casarao (no.40). a blonde does a nice charm offensive but doesn’t quite hit the spot. cross the street to no.59. scour the stairs. lots of hefties. then see a young girl (19yrs i think) who i have done once before. she is fresh, sweet-tasting. maybe an 8 or a 9. ok, i spring for 20r. fabulous in cabin (the girl, that is.)

come out and need to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134). cross street to café do bom which has a nice posh loo (with towel and soap dispensers). try their internet (polished wood slide-out keyboard rests) as an excuse for being there.

costs for a very passable afternoon:

2 buses: 4r
2 girls: 30r
overpriced cola: 3r
internet: 1.50
gauraviton in the sun: 1.50

total: 40r

Jan 156

06-12-07, 03:03

Dodger - are you sure the girls don´t mind you posting pics showing their faces?

Jan 156

06-12-07, 03:07

The most important rule to live by, if your worried about being drugged, is NEVER accept a drink from someone else, and never leave your drink unattended.The people that get drugged are probably buzzed, or flat out drunk.They are easy targets. If you stay sober in Brazil, it will help you avoid 90% of the problems you might encounter.Alcohol and mongering DON"T mix.

Maybe remember the girls are just as wary*. Acting in a way that cannot be misconceived helps both parties.

*regular girl of mine told me her flatmate was drugged with a spiked drink

Jan 156

06-12-07, 03:43

They brought out their English speaking manager to greet me, and he welcomed me by waiving the R30 entrance fee (good for two drinks), and said that as a favor to me he would just have a two drink minimum (R15 each). Wow, didn't I feel special!

I´m sure you realise he makes these prices up as he goes along. To prove it, I walked in tonight, no entrance fee, no minimum drinks. But to me, 15R for a bottle of warm coke is taking the p*ss.

OK, maybe I am a bit harsh. That´s no more expensive than Stringfellows or Western strip clubs, most of which don´t even put on a decent show. And I admit the manager is a lot less pushy than most of the boite hustlers. The girls are decent. Out of the boites, Frank´s is probably quite a pretty nice place to spend the evening.

Almotu

06-12-07, 06:51

Thanks for the reports on the action at Frank's Bar. The enclosed photos are a plus. Both girls look do-able as well. IMHO, the Bar's worth a look on my next trip to Rio.

Brazilman

06-12-07, 08:46

Slick,

I feel you, but the problem with getting robbed by a chick is that your going to wake up with no money! They won't kill you. You will be broke, and probably have no passport. Thats not my idea of a vacation. I'm so paranoid that I never leave my money in my apartment. My dumb ass actually walks around with 1500 on me. I stick it in my shoe. I've heard of 2 many people that had their apartments robbed when they went out. I've only had a problem with one girl in all my trips to brazil. That was when I knew no portuguese. I interview real well now. Once you know the language, it's not that hard to tell if a girl is a criminal, or a hard core pro.

Dodger Bulldog

06-12-07, 13:43

But to me, 15R for a bottle of warm coke is taking the p*ss.As I mentioned on another thread, I guess I look at it a bit differently.

I don't see that I am paying for drinks at all, but rather I am compensating the club for bringing together several attractive girls and making them available for me to take home.

The drinks are just kind of thrown in.

Plus, I was pleased to learn that the girls get paid by the club for dancing. I've known many places that actually charge the girls to work there.

So the Frank's does have some overhead they've got to cover, and I think they have a found a reasonably fair way to do so. I didn't feel ripped off.

DB

Lennox

06-12-07, 15:03

Sperto

06-12-07, 15:05

when taking a girl to a cabin at vm you'll never know for certain if you will get your 30 minutes. interruptions occurs. usually i go there before the rush hour, when the business is slow, so i don't have any problems. before i go up to a cabin i make sure to point at the watch and tell the bartender/manager that i will not accept any bell ringing to early.

usually it works well, but a couple of times they called time out after 10 minutes, banging on the door and a giant sapatona entering the cabin trying to pull the girl out. quite disturbing.

the strangest interruption i had at vm was in april. i found this lovely girl with beautiful big tits. we went upstairs and i choosed the largest cabin. lots of space, very hot and filled with personal belongings to the girls as they used that cabin for sleeping.

after a short photo-session we started the act. the cabin was like a sauna so the girl wanted to raise the speed on the fan. great! click... poff! the fan and the cable caught fire. the fire spread to some rubbish on the floor. lots of black nasty smoke. i just managed to catch my camera and clothes in time.

then the electricity went out in the house. my girl screamed her lungs out. the people downstairs screamed even louder, but nobody was eager to go up.

luckily i managed to take out the fire quickly. a fire up in those cabins, narrow halls and spiralstair is a nightmare. when the fire was out a dozen people hurried upstairs. totally dark, lots of smoke, crowded and me naked. everybody shouted and the staff asked where the gringo was. then, in the dark, i felt a hand on my dick and the old woman running the casa shouted that she had found the gringo and he was still hard.

everybody laughed and i felt quite embarrassed. the light came back and we got a new session. afterwards when i went downstairs there was a big crowd in the bar laughing and yelling "churrasco de gringo". i got myself a couple of free beers.

Lueck Hoff

06-12-07, 15:08

A few days before there have been some reports about going to football in Rio.
The last year in July I visited a soccer match in Rio, it was the cupfinal in the
Macarena Stadium. Great atmosphere, although the quality was below the standard I know from my country in Europe.

I shall arrive in Rio at the weekend for a longer stay. I would like to go to
Macarena Stadium again, so anybody who has the same interest, pm me.

Lueck Hoff

Euro100

06-12-07, 15:47

In my wildest dreams I could not have imagined a better ending to my 2007 Rio fuckation … except that there is still time left on the clock. After we lie there and cuddle for about 5 minutes, she is ready to go again and starts playing with little euro. I am afraid that after 7 pops in three days I will just not have another bullet left in the rifle, and I don’t want this beautiful thing we got going to end in a disappointment. So I point out that only 15 minutes are left to closing time, and that this is not enough time for me to recharge. So she cuddles up to me real tight and whispers into my ear: “Would you like me to come to your hotel tonight?” I am so shit-faced happy that it doesn’t even occur to me that this could be a business proposition. (How is that for dim-witted?) YES, DEFINITELY, I would love you to come to my hotel tonight.

As we exit the suite, we hear the typical programma girl sound track coming from next door. You know the loud moans, encouraging shouts, even in English if needed (“yeah baby, yeah, right there, go harder, uuuh, f*uck me hard, …”), to simulate an orgasm to make the customer come faster. Angelika laughs, silently lip-synchs along for a couple seconds, makes the necessary f*ck-me-to-orgasm facial expressions and simulated heavy breathing motion, then pretends to have to throw up. She goes the extra mile to make me understand that her orgasms were real and not the usual playbook routine. I already knew, but I am oddly reassured by this gesture. It tells me that she also wants us to have something special going.

Since it is closing time already (again !), there is no point in returning to the boite after my shower. Angelika and I meet outside and get a taxi to my hotel. In the taxi, she asks me gently “money or no”. I answer “no money, I want you to be my amiga for the night”. She cuddles up to me with a kiss and a smile. The taxi ride is only a good five minutes, and we arrive at the Savoy Othon Travel, which is one block form the beach in same block as the Othon Palace.

The hotel is girl-friendly. We were almost not asked to sign her in, because it is just a couple minutes after midnight, and Angelika is dressed fairly conservatively. We could have just gone upstairs. But Angelika is into dental hygiene. She asks for a toothbrush at the reception, but they don’t have one. I give R10 to one of the bellhops, and he makes a run to the convenience store. How is that for a girl-friendly hotel?

Since we are now on amiga time, I will not give details on what followed. It was not programma and so is not appropriate for this forum. But I will say this: I came two more times before we went to sleep and one more time in the morning, and each one was a nut-buster. It was magical, maybe the best night of sex in my life. Yeah, yeah snicker if you want :D, I don’t care.

I had told her before we went to my hotel that this was going to be my last night in town, wanting to make sure that I did not trigger false expectations on her part. I felt I had to be completely honest with her in order to get her to be honest with me and just to enjoy the moment. So she knew that I had to leave the hotel for one more day of work at 9 am. She watched me shave, put on my shirt and suit and leather shoes, and complimented me on my elegant looks. I said that these were just work clothes, and that I liked her work clothes at L’uomo much better. She started laughing and called me a safado. OK, I can live with that.

Somebody quoted Richard Pryor in saying that only your first and last pussy matter. I think I experienced a counter-example last night, which happily proves to me that Pryor’s saying is 100% completely wrong. This pussy mattered a whole hell of a lot. Every time I come to Rio I think it cannot get any better, and then the next time exceeds it. I love this city!

Euro100

06-12-07, 15:48

I am hoofing it back past the biker bar (where there is then just an incredible collection of tricked-up hogs that would make the guys from “pimp my ride” envious) to the bus on the main street, take the one to Leblon (via Copa, of course). At about 10 pm I am back at Copa and enter L’uomo, my true home in Rio. My first order of business, as you can guess by now, is to use their toilet. Ahhhh, what a relief, well worth the R40 entrance fee (I always get the reduced rate, because I do not come here for just the drinks, you know ;)). Then I take a long shower, including washing my hair, as hot as I can stand it. Brush my teeth, too. I put on my large bathrobe that the lady in the locker room always gives me (I am a regular customer, sort of, and since I always tip her a couple of R, she remembers me). Now I feel properly removed from my VM experience to get back to the high-maintenance and well-groomed girls at L’uomo. My apologies to the VM crowd, but I have decided that L’uomo (or 4*4, which is closed on the weekends, though) is much more my kind of environment. Yes, I found a real gold nugget at VM, I will admit. But the hunt is so much easier and cleaner at the upscale termas for me. To each his own!

I go to the bar, and Peter asks me if I want aqua or caipiroska. Both! I look around, and the view is mighty fine again. Ingrid, of course, comes over and gives me a peck on the cheek. Did I mention I love that girl? She is clearly the longest-working garota here now, and she has a lot of friends. A couple of barstools away from me with her back to me is a girl who’s shape I admire from the backside. Very beautiful, but engaged with another customer. When she turns around I see that it is Dara, the one with the unforgettable eyes, who I had great repeated interaction with last year. (http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=502255). She comes over and says hello; I compliment her on her new hairdo (color brown with a touch to the red, shoulder-long straight, and parted on the left) and remark that she looks like she lost some weight, which pleases her immensely. Work’s with just about every women, BTW. As a general rule, every women is focused on what she perceives as her imperfections. Since Dara told me last year that she is working on losing some weight, this was an easy slam-dunk for me.

But Dara is with another guy, and I don’t want to interfere. I don’t have to, either, because Angelika steps up to the plate. Petite mulatta, 25 year old, shoulder-long wavy hair, a smile that could melt an iceberg, perfect teeth in a mouth that just invites DFK … which we do, right away. We make out like a couple of teenagers in heat, with me sitting on my customary barstool and her grinding herself against you-know-what. Every once in a while, when the rhythm moves her, she turns around and does the grinding with her back side, looking over her shoulder into my eyes with the biggest grin. That’s why I love L’uomo! – so many appealing options, and everyone is great.

So this goes on until just before 11 pm. L’uomo closes at midnight on Sundays, and so I know that I have only one shot left before I have to leave Rio again tomorrow morning. I tell Angelika to get us a room, and to make it the suite, because I want to make it special for her. Yes, Christopherd is right in his post on 4*4 a couple pages back, when he said that it all seems perfectly choreographed and without surprises. But I find that if you work on it, you have a fighting chance to break through and get a genuine experience. And did I ever get a genuine one here.

In the suite (much bigger bed!) I really try to take care of her and please her. I slowly explore her body, using all of my best moves, glances, touches, kisses, caresses, and soft sounds and compliments. I am determined to get this girl to have a real O before this session is over. And somehow she gets out of the programma and into real pleasure for her. I get her to come three times. She has this way of cramping up around my dick in the process, where her nipples, which are always perky anyway, come straight to attention. On her third one she takes me with her, and it rocks my world. In my wildest dreams I could not have imagined a better ending to my 2007 Rio fuckation … except …

[… keep reading; now comes the good stuff]

Euro100

06-12-07, 15:49

ok, so this may turn out to be one of my therapeutic posts again. sometimes it is just important to put what happened into writing to get clarity. if you don’t like what i say, don’t bother flaming me. i am beyond hope ;)

these are my adventures of sunday. i have already described the first five hours of the sunday (midnight to 5 am, veranda, help!, then take home with monique, http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=607697&postcount=3654) in a previous post. here is the rest of the story …

i bummed away the morning and afternoon, partially writing my posts, partially resting. at around 5 pm i got a hold of christopherd and set up an evening excursion to vm. (yup, stung by the vm bug and the promise of cheap shags in a wild west atmosphere – you, who are regulars there, know what i mean.) of course i got so excited that i got to christopherd’s apartemento at 20 minutes before the hour. the metro connections are just too efficient. we swapped war stories while he got ready.

then a stop at cervantes; they have just the best steak sandwiches. with cheese and pineapple, a dream! thanks, christopherd, for introducing me to this place, too. it will now be a regular stop on my rio agenda. standing at the bar, eating the sandwich, washing it down with a chop, it cannot get any better than this. beats tia palmira by a mile in my book. what can i say? i am a simple man with simple tastes. good value, too: r19 for the sandwich and 2 beers.

ok, show time! we catch the bus to vm; same routine as the day before: get off at the steel underpasses, walk past the biker bar, and we are at the meat wholesale center. no, really, there is a meat distribution center next to vm, which, one could argue, is also in the meat distribution business. only that the former uses refrigerated trucks to deliver the merchandise, whereas the latter prefers low light and eardrum-busting load music from a hundred sets of different loudspeakers all hammering different tunes at maximum output. me not speaking portuguese is not a big handicap, because nobody can hear any spoken words in this ruckus anyway.

as opposed to yesterday, it is dark now, and you have to examine the cobblestones in front of you carefully to avoid stepping into nasty surprises. but, you know what, vm is more than a freak show. it’s a way of life for these people. real old guys are playing billiards in one corner; and there is a guy sitting down to get a tattoo; and there are people manning a few food stands, and street vendors, and a guy walking around with brooms for sale. (god knows, they could use them!!!) an old women walks around peddling thongs. she does good business, and the girls try them on right there. people seem to feel that there is absolutely no shame in anything. i also begin to see there is a real community here. and in some weird way i feel safer here than walking down av. atlantica. i am so glad that i got to see this. it puts all other experiences in rio into a totally different light.

christopherd and i agree on a street-side bar at the entrance to vm as our meeting point between pops and then set off to explore on our own. i give villa show, next door, an inspection. yesterday afternoon it was closed; so there is a chance for new territory to explore. i have a problem, though, in that i really have to take a dump. this is not easy here on the wild side. most holes in the wall have not toilet at all. and the ones that do are mostly not working. i find three absolutely disgusting ones in working condition (well, sort of), but none has toilet paper. what’s the freakin’ portuguese word for tp? either they don’t understand what i want, or they are having a bit of fun with the stupid gringo. whatever, i cannot get relief. note to self: take a pack of kleenex on your next trip to vm.

ok, i try to walk it off for almost an hour, strolling around and checking the scene. but somehow i cannot get into it. i fancy rafaela gain, in the red case #14 on the inside of the vm loop. she is there, but chatting with a guy for at least 30 minutes. this girl really does not rush things. yesterday it worked in my favor, today against me. i run into christopherd at our meeting point, and he has already scored twice. we part again, and after another 20 minutes or so i decide that enough is enough. my time is more valuable than money to me. i need a quality shag. and most of all i need a good toilet!

[… to be continued in the next post below …]

El Austriaco

06-12-07, 15:55

What’s the freakin’ Portuguese word for TP? Either they don’t understand what I want, or they are having a bit of fun with the stupid gringo.
Papel higiênico.

EA

Mr Enternational

06-12-07, 16:20

After my nonpro left last night I started to go to the all-night internet cafe but instead ended up at Terraco Atlantico to have a caipirinha. The pickings were really slim. Then I saw a new face. She was tall and not thin, with long black hair. Just my type. She was with another girl who was shorter and blond wearing a red dress. I waved her over but there was some confusion as to wheather I wanted her or the friend. I made it clear then she came to sit with me. I went through my usual routine of pretending not to speak Portuguese. She did not speak any English at all so after a bit of primitive communication I got good vibes from her and started to converse in Portuguese. She was from Sao Luis, 21 years old, no children, and had only been in Rio for two days. She claimed to be leaving for the interior today. She said that she met the girl who she was with the day before. She lives in a two bedroom apartment near the Copacabana Palace which rents for 1300 reais per month.

We chit chatted about Sao Luis and that I have friends there but after having to enter Brasil in the south I am reluctant to make at least two more connecting flights to go to the northeast. I told her that I was sleepy and she said she was as well. She told me, "Let´s go to sleep." I said that I would like to but I am not rich and I know that she would come with some crazy price. I asked how much she wanted and she said 150. I told her 100 until well into the morning, non-negotiable. She accepted without batting an eyelid. By then her friend was out of view. She wanted to wait until she reappeared again so that she could tell her that she was leaving and she would not worry. But knowing gdps I did not want to her friend to fuck up the deal that I had just made by telling her to try to get more money. So I told her that she is an adult and her friend knows that she is here to find work so she will not be worried. She agreed.

We walked across Terraco towards Bob´s and we spotted her friend sitting with two other gentlemen. She wanted to go tell her that she was leaving but I reinforced that she was an adult so she continued walking with me. I took a right on Djama Ulrich and walked to the corner of Nossa Senhora. Ordinarily, I would have walked with her all the way to Santa Clara but I had mercy on her and flagged a taxi. It was 5.85 reais. I gave the driver a 10 and he gave me 5 back. We walked down to the building and went into the apartment.

She said that she needed to use the toilet so she went in and closed the door. She was taking quite a while so I opened the door to make sure everything was ok. I startled her. She was in the bathroom with her pants down trying to squeeze KY inside of her. I told her that she could just put that away. She asked if she could shower and I definitely agreed to that and gave her a fresh towel. She came out ready for action. She lied down and asked if I had a condom. I told her to relax and that there was no hurry because she was not leaving until the next morning. It was only 1:30 then. I wanted to get to know her a bit first. Just basic things to help me understand where she came from and where she intends to go.

Finally we fucked and fell off to sleep. She woke up about 8am but I was still in sleep mode. She said that she needed to get going because she wanted to leave the city about 11am. I told her to go back to sleep and she did. She woke again at 9. When she went to the bathroom and went to my secret hiding place (behind a picture on the wall this time) and got the 100 reais that I had promised her. I put it on the table next to her purse. When she came out of the bathroom (fully clothed) she saw me with my cell in my hand. I snapped a picture of her. Then she said how she loved to take pictures and wanted me to take more. I got my digital out and snapped a few more of her. I didn´t even ask her to take her clothes off. I didn´t even want pictures because if I did then I would have taken them the night before while she was naked. I will post them later. She saw the 100 reais and asked me to give her money for a taxi because she didn´t even have an idea of where she was. I didn´t want to spoil her for mongerers so I told her no. I gave her directions to exit the building and go left to find Nossa Senhora at the next intersection. She asked me if I wanted her email and messenger. I told her no at first but then obliged to take it. She thanked me and said she had fun with me. She left at 9:30.

Lennox

06-12-07, 17:12

In May I spent a week in Rio and had a great time. I lived like a rock star for a week and blew through money like I've never on any trip. The exchange rate is brutal and prices are way up from the past. I was only there for a week, so I figured live it up.

When I arrived I checked into my apartment from Rio Rentals 4 Less . The apartment was nice and big with great bathrooms, but the air conditioning was not too strong and the blinds were messed up in the bedroom. $130/day for a big 2BR apartment on Copacabana.

During my stay I hit a few clubs, a few termas. Centaurus was fun, I hung out in there and met some hotties, there were some real nice girls when I was there. I was able to meet a few of them after work to hang out.

L'uomo was just so so, not that many hotties there on this particular trip, but a relaxed atmosphere, however the music was really too loud in L'uomo one night, I got a headache and had to leave the place! I was tempted to check out centro and wandered around centro after dark a couple times checking out the Termas. The subway walk to 4x4 feels a little dangerous but nobody bothered me. I was amused by the overcrowded 4x4, but really I didn't find too many girls that were appealing there. Maybe it was a bad night but really I didn't find any that were attractive to me so I ducked out of there.

I found a few nice girls out of Help, despite the one bad encounter I detailed a week ago about Julianna. I was surprised to meet a few real nice girls who spoke English.

One thing remarkable on this trip to me was the costs...next time I go to Rio I will bring two ATM cards, the limit on ATMs was a problem for me on this trip, particularly on the weekend which counts as one business day to the American banks.

Lorenzo

06-12-07, 20:50

Well, she told me that she liked me a lot, and that I was "muite gostoza," (sp?), and that no man had done her like that before.
DB
It's "muito gostoso," and reference was most likely not to you but to the experience of being with you. Many garotas will moan "gostoso" in the middle of the sex act.

Too bad you had a bad experience, but let me ask you two questions. First, did you negotiate services in advance? It sounds like you didn't, and that you ended up paying the price for it. Second, did you give her money up front? It sounds like you might have, because girls who want to be paid usually aren't so parsimonious with their services. For a garota not to kiss in Rio is almost unheard of. I would have thrown her out (although she eventually came around).

About 7 or 8 years ago, in reports that are now archived, Mabs was mentioned on this forum with about the same frequency as Meia Pataca. Both were choice spots for picking up FL garotas. I always thought Mabs was the preferable spot because it had very good food, and the quality of the garotas was somewhat higher than MP. Now MP has been taken over by thugs and riffraff, and Mabs is hardly ever mentioned anymore. This may be a good thing, because it probably means less competition.

I haven't been to Mabs in years, primarily because it isn't near any of the places where I usually stay. I used to go there for breakfast every morning the one time I stayed at the Meridien, and I got the come on or propositioned every day. Problem was that the Meridien is not girl friendly, so I had to either go to a place the girl picked out and risk a setup, or go to a motel, which is something I will do only with the most choice garotas with whom I want to spend several hours. Sounds like Mabs may still be worth a try, however.

Lorenzo

Sunset Strip

06-12-07, 23:37

MABS is my usual spot. I personally do not like Mia Pataca and rarely go into HELP.

MABS is definitely old-school. If you sit there all day you will notice some rough looking girls there. MABS lacks the fresh crop found at Mia Pataca, for sure. MABS is good for the regular monger who wants to meet some girls he knows. When I hit Rio ,I take a shower, then head to MABS.
There is little hustle in Mabs and the mongers tend to be older guys.

But for the monger who wants to hang out and relax, MABS is the spot.

Be careful with the food these days. I got really sick eating the Portuguese pizza last October.

TJ

Lorenzo

06-13-07, 03:17

Can I at least assume that "muito gostoso" is a good thing?

DB
Of course.

Dodger Bulldog

06-13-07, 15:31

well, after taking a few risks the lasts couple days (maybe one too many), i decided to play it safe tonight and take advantage of the tuesday discount coupon at monte carlo.

the only other terma i have been to is solarium. since they have the same owner, of course they are very similar.

to compare and contrast:

1. there seemed to be more girls at monte carlo (35-40 v. 25-40, but hard to get an exact count with all the comings and goings).

2. the posteriors at monte carlo were much more within the range of human norms than at solarium. i didn't see a single one here who looked like the she had torso of a pettite girl attached to the ass end of t. rex, as was common at solarium.

3. i thought the faces at solarium were more consistently pretty. while most were pleasant enough looking, only two stood out as real stunners at monte carlo. at least in my opinion, which maybe i shouldn't even trust anymore.

i passed on the piranha who welcomed me to the club, who explained every thing to me in perfect english and tried to peel me off to cabhine before i even had a chance to order a drink.

i found a tall, slender, lovely young girl who came without limitations. it didn't take long before we were into full-blown foreplay in the boite. i guess that can be viewed as a great way to extend the experience beyond the 40 minutes in the cabhine.

one question: are cameras allowed in the termas? i had assumed they were not and did not bring mine.

but i slipped my cell phone in the pocket of the robe and no one seemed to notice or care. i would love to take a real camera in.

anyway, "jersey" (real name raquel) had no qualms about posing for a series of photos. for those who might ask, i forgot to bring along a release form for her to sign, but her wide smile and her decision to stick her ass up in the air for me to shoot was clearly a sign of implied consent.

i won't be able to download the pics from my phone until i return, so i hope to post them in the photo section next week.

sex with racquel combined all the best aspects of romance and eroticism. she was sensual and caring, active and relentless, passionate and responsive. her every move was calculated to please my body and my ego.

aferwards she was putting her k-y back into her little purse, and she pulled out a pocket rocket to quickly show me, smiled, and put it back. how fantastic to find a girl with her very own pocket rocket!

fortunately we had enough time that i was able to focus on her with it to help her achieve her moment. racquel wasn't afraid to let me know what she likes, as she directed me to put my fingers up her ass, place the other hand on her breasts, while kissing her on the mouth.

it was rewarding to be able to satisfy her as she did me. quite a bonding thing.

racquel gave me her phone number and is willing to meet on the outside. i am sad that i leave rio tomorrow and probably won't find time to hook up with her again.

afterwards, six of us were changing in the locker room at closing time. one gentleman bumped me and said "sorry " in a heavy southern accent. we were surprised to learn that each of us spoke english, and all but one were from the states.

i joked with a fellow who came from tampa that the owner of mons venus should take a trip here to learn a few things about how to upgrade the service in his club.

all in all, a perfectly satisfying evening in every way.

db

Palmisano

06-13-07, 18:16

Travel And Mate

06-13-07, 18:37

Hi guys,

If a Therma girl give you her phone number she is taking a risk as the owners will not be very happy with her doing business on the side.

The least you can do is keep it to yourself and not post it where all can see. This site is well known and not all the people who read it are well intentioned, witness the repeated row brewing in the Photo section today.

Have fun and play safe, for the girls sake too.

Fantasy

06-13-07, 22:24

What do you mean satisfactory all the way around???
You didn't drop the soap in the locker room shower on purpose did you???? I am going out tonight and buy tou a nice small digital camera. You travel way too much to come back with these shitty cell phone pictures.

Dodger Bulldog

06-13-07, 22:48

What do you mean satisfactory all the way around???
You didn't drop the soap in the locker room shower on purpose did you???? WTF? Just remember it's your mind that went there, Fantasy, not mine...

DB

El Austriaco

06-14-07, 00:11

Hi there,

I'll soon have a 6 hour stop at the airport in Rio (Galeo International Airport) and I would like to have some fun during this time.

Rio is too dangerous for me, especially foreigners get often hijacked by their taxi-drivers on the way from the airport to the city... therefore I'm not willing to go far.

Is there any (save) motel close to the airport? Isn't there maybe even a "full service provider" for such things (Brazil has the best Service in the world in all aspects I think!)?

Any recommendations welcome!
Go to Centro (4x4, etc.). Read the Bubba Report for directions and all the different options available in Centro.

If you are adventurous, go to VM (although from what you are writing, it doesn't seem that you are).

I would be VERY careful in Zona Norte anywhere closer to the airport, along the Linha Vermelha, and especially on Ilha do Governador. They are all nasty neighborhoods. Honestly, I don't think it would be a good idea to stay in any motel anywhere there (and foreign tourists generally don't).

EA

Mr Enternational

06-14-07, 00:52

I thought that Mabs had lost its stuff years ago once Balcony opened. I can say though that I had some great experiences there. Such as this then 35-year-old with two kids who is now married and can be seen in Jake Steed's "Big, Brown, Bomb Boo-Yow Booty, Brazilian Bitches #2" doing things that will make your jaw drop.

El Austriaco

06-14-07, 00:57

I thought that Mabs had lost its stuff years ago once Balcony opened.
I agree. The only few times I spent in Mabs were when girls I picked up in Balcony wanted to have something to eat, and they told me that's where many of them generally eat a quick bit (Balcony was too expensive). And every time I went there, there were just a few of them hanging around, definitely less than in Balcony and way less than in Meia Pataca, usually.

In other words: check it out if you happen to walk by, but usually not worth it to make a special trip.

EA

Loso69

06-14-07, 08:22

Whiskeria Aquarium

Entrance
10R
Includes 2 small draft beers

Programmas
50R for 20 min
70R for 30 min
90R for 40 min
110R for 1 hour
Add 5R if you pay by CC

Rooms
Large, clean and new-looking rooms.
Good A/C, H/W shower and toilet.
Rooms are larger and better than in 4x4!
Amazing quality rooms for a lower end place!

Note
The whiskeria is attached to Termas 61. I only visited the whiskeria.

Florida

Entrance
Minimum consumption of 10R.
Beers are 4R.

Programmas
50R for 30 min
70R for 45 min
100R for 1 hour

Rooms
Attic rooms with wooden tilted ceilings.
No shower in the room.
Hard bed.
Fluorescent lights.

Disco
Upscale looking.
With rotating lights.
And a laser show.
For a lower end place, I was impressed!

Loso

Perkele

06-14-07, 16:41

Go to Centro (4x4, etc.). Read the Bubba Report for directions and all the different options available in Centro.

If you are adventurous, go to VM (although from what you are writing, it doesn't seem that you are).

I would be VERY careful in Zona Norte anywhere closer to the airport, along the Linha Vermelha, and especially on Ilha do Governador. They are all nasty neighborhoods. Honestly, I don't think it would be a good idea to stay in any motel anywhere there (and foreign tourists generally don't).

EA

Hi!

The guy has 6 hours stopover in Rio. That's not even close enough to go ANYWHERE, not to mention 4x4.

Closest by far is VM, but.....

The airports are such a clusterfuck nowadays. I wouldn't risk.....

Rio Bob

06-14-07, 18:58

Hi there,

I'll soon have a 6 hour stop at the airport in Rio (Galeo International Airport) and I would like to have some fun during this time.

Rio is too dangerous for me, especially foreigners get often hijacked by their taxi-drivers on the way from the airport to the city... therefore I'm not willing to go far.

Is there any (save) motel close to the airport? Isn't there maybe even a "full service provider" for such things (Brazil has the best Service in the world in all aspects I think!)?

Any recommendations welcome!

Another option if you really do not want to venture into town is to stay in the airport and do it, safest bet if money is no object.

There is a hotel right on the airport grounds The Luxor Aeroporto hotel. I believe you can get a special rate for a short stay, they have this so that travellers can refresh themselves between flights and take a nap. When you check in ask them if having a guest will be a problem, I don't think it will as the Luxor hotels in Rio are user friendly.

When you get in the room, call an escort, check out the escort section of this site for Brazil, do some homework ahead of time, maybe have something waiting for you. Some of the girls live out by the airport so they can get there in no time.

With 6 hours you can do some damage.

Bill1963

06-14-07, 19:06

El Austriaco

06-14-07, 19:58

The guy has 6 hours stopover in Rio. That's not even close enough to go ANYWHERE, not to mention 4x4.
Why? Go through immigration and customs, catch a cab to Centro, all in all about an hour. He won't have anything but carry-on luggage, anyway.

Gotta be back at the airport roughly two hours before, cab back to the airport will take no more than half an hour. That leaves him with two-and-a-half hours.

You know, I've done a lot of damage in Centro when I had to sneak away from the GF for a "couple of hours". You just need to know where to go.

Rio Bob's suggestion is also a good one, if you're into escorts.

Sure beats hanging at Antonio Carlos Jobim for six hours, though.

EA

Admin

06-14-07, 20:17

Greetings Everyone,

I recently cleaned up this thread by deleting several reports on the subject of transsexuals.

The direction that this thread was taking demonstrates the rational behind the Forum's policy against discussions about TVs, TS and other sort of off-beat behavior not related to the purpose of the forum, which BTW is...

"The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex."

This cleanup process is not perfect, and it's possible that I may have inadvertently deleted a few otherwise legitimate posts. If you find that your own report was also deleted, please don't take it personally.

Thanks,

Jackson

Jan 156

06-14-07, 22:26

How many girls work there?

And how many young beautiful hotties are there?

On my last visit there (night before last) I told them I probably wouldn´t be back. I asked the girl for a photo and she tried to negotiate from 100R down and kept arguing when I said I didn´t want one in that case, taking up lots of time. Then she took another five minutes to shower. That left me 20 of my 30 minutes. I spend another five calming her down as she was jumpimg all over the place as a result of too much Red Bull. When she relaxed and let me take a lead (as she was too skittery to take a lead) she was ok. But at that price I would rather spend my money somewhere more reliable.

There were only two good looking women there IMO - both of them I would have given a miss at VM or the 1R a minute places. Even the good hot shower I was looking forward to wasn´t as good as before (there are two floors of cabins - the one on the upper floor did not seem as good as the one I had before on the lower floor, ie above the bar).

Now the time previously there were quite a few hotties. It really doesn´t mean much to say how many hotties there are in general as it varies too much IMO. Sperto did as unbiassed a report on the general termas as is probably possible, and I recommend it to anyone not wanting to just compile their own.

I had thought Aquarios was quite a good mid-way option, but there are plenty of cheap placs on one hand where time and money are easily written off if you get a duff girl; or top notch places like 4x4 or even MV30 (round the corner from Aquarios) that can more generally be relied on to give a minimum standard. For beginners, the Centro termas (south of Pres.Vargas) are probably more user-friendly and easier to navigate.

I was going to do an update on the places in the area but the board was so full of academic discussions rather than reports by folk here that I decided to skip ;-)

<snip report on Copa 203 terma - just back from there - 90R for 20mins and it was ok - I think it was the lukewark food at a kilograma that has put me in a bad mood lol)

Bimbo Boy

06-15-07, 00:02

I recently cleaned up this thread by deleting several reports on the subject of transsexuals.
The direction that this thread was taking demonstrates the rational behind the Forum's policy against discussions about TVs, TS and other sort of off-beat behavior not related to the purpose of the forum, which BTW is...
Jackson
Jackson,
I feel that our discussion was not out of topic, since we were discussing how to differenciate TS from real women, and not make the wrong choices.
Regards.
BB

Mr Enternational

06-15-07, 02:05

Before you weigh any of our suggestions on what to do during your six-hour layover, I think it is best if you tell us the day and time frame of said layover. For instance, if you are talking about being there on a Sunday from 6am until noon......well you guys understand where I'm going with this I'm sure.

Jan 156

06-15-07, 05:44

my apologies if sperto has already done this. i am feeling pleasantly keyboard inclined, after spending some hours getting pi**ed with my namorada.

don’t take any of it as a recommendation. tonight vm was overrun with hotties. last night it was so abominable i came home and filched a shag from an amiga on prado junior.

here we go – just a few features (and a proper toilet especially for euro100) . . .

right hand side from the meat distribution center –

first casa (first entrance, which leads into a bar after a narrow passageway).
i would maybe call it the tlc/gfe entry point. not so many hotties but most any of them will enjoy spending all evening with you in the bar, drinking and dancing. a place to see people dancing forro or occasionally samba. anyway vm is all about searching for hotties. if you want them lined up on a tray, go to 4x4. the bar is immaculately clean compared to most of the others. the barman is pleasant. the atmosphere is very relaxed. you can get good food (including steaks) that are cooked under conditions you can observe (the cook is reasonably convincingly hygienic looking). if you want a girl to make love to you rather than have sex, this is a good place to start looking. quite easy to build up a friendship with the girls here that will last several years if you come back. the cabins are upstairs and a bit quieter than those of many casas.

2nd casa/bar is a very small one. reopened not that long ago. the casa manager is a very sweet little butch girl who used to work in the heavier duty zone around casas 56-58. not many girls here yet.

3rd casa is only slightly busier. similar format, open onto the street rather than down a covered alleyway.

4th casa has a large dancefloor. this place used to be the bees-knees several years ago but has lost a lot of its best girls. it is the girls that know how to create a party atmosphere that set a fire under a casa (no pun intended, sperto).

5th casa is the pink bar. beautiful verandah with the chairs and tables set out nicely. the ladies here are older, but do at least make the attempt to be classy. only the occasional good-looker. rooms are quite reasonable.

6,7,8 are more hardcore. very loud music. quite a few hotties (looks-wise) but you will have to work harder to develop a rapport. i’ve been offered the odd line of coke at one of them. misbehaving yourself in some of the casas is plain bad manners. here it is way out of line. the big tranny who works behind one of the bars some nights is actually quite sweet.

the ninth one might be the third floor balcony. you go up a narrow staircase to an outside balcony (girls will gyrate from a height at busy times). inside is a dance-floor and bar. only downside is that after you have walked all the way up to the top you might find there are hardly any girls there.

between 6-9 are more covered alleyways, each with one or more casas off.

10-11 are bars behind food stalls. they include the small casa, no 62, which has quite a nice room behind the bar (a light, a fan that works, and pegs to hang your clothes. and a proper toilet. a proper seat (with a piece of wire to hold it up while gentlemen [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)) and it flushes. very clean by vm standards. if you want loo-paper, ask at the bar. bear in mind that a portion of loo-roll and a condom costs 1r, so offer to pay. and please don’t expect to use the loo unless you are patronizing the bar with a shag or at least a few drinks (this goes for most of them, even the stinky ones – unless they know you well that is).

12 is a garage area that also has a couple of casas off it inside. and a pool table, i think.

after that it’s just food stalls.

on the other side (left as you approach from the meat center) –

the main strip is a u-shaped alley. this is beginners´ paradise and often the only one that first time visitors go to. there are casas left and right all along it, some of them running through from one side of the u to the other. there’s a pool table at the top frequented by people who can play quite well.

some of the casas of note in the u-shape alley:-
the tablecloths bar (runs right through opening on both sides).
the cage bar – floor to ceiling bars at the front where girls often enjoy performing.

after the u-shape alley, there’s a dead end alley with casas only on the right hand side.
after that, there’s an area called villa show club 59 (a fancy name for just another alley). it has casas off to the left inside, a pool table where the standard is [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140)-poor, and a tiny pole-dance-floor that is rarely used.

dunno why i am telling you this. next week will see a few more stuffed shirt mongers at vm, arms-folded, surveying the scene like they are town-planners at a street party. they wear button down shirts with collars, stand stiffly, and have their jaw set in case someone leaps out of a dark corner and beats them to a pulp. occasionally they get their posh mobile phones out and take pictures and videos in the belief that no-one has noticed.

but a few well-weathered *********s will put their feet up and call it a second home.

nb: note that not all casas are open 24/7. some tend to only open on busier times.

Mangera

06-15-07, 12:45

Loso69

06-15-07, 13:10

How many girls work there?

And how many young beautiful hotties are there?

I'd say there were about 15 girls working in both Aquarius and Florida when I visited. One hottie in Aquarius (Thais). One hottie in Florida (Bruna). Fucked both of them. :)

Loso

Chris H

06-15-07, 19:23

What is going on next week that you will see more mongers than usual at VM? Just curious.

Chris H

Euro100

06-15-07, 19:54

What is going on next week that you will see more mongers than usual at VM? Just curious.

Chris H

It's just a prediction. This report http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=609525&postcount=3707 makes it look so appealing that Christopherh predicts more of the guys reading this board will show up, who usually wouldn't belong there.

"stuffed shirts"? Thanks for the dig Christopherh! LOL. I really was only going to leave my shirt stuffed in my pants for Cervantes, because you has told me that it was high class.

euro (stuffed shirt, who tried to fit in at VM as good as he could ...)

Euro100

06-15-07, 20:05

Since my good friend Routard is going to visit Rio for the first time very soon, I thought about compiling a list of my favorite Rio hunts for him. But then I thought perhaps others might also enjoy such a list as a starting point for their own adventures, and perhaps the more experienced mongers could also share their own top 10. Since my list is by no means comprehensive, I would certainly enjoy others contributing more places and comparing them to the ones that I list. So here goes …

My top 10 hunts in Rio

#10: Help and Veranda: The selection is pretty impressive (quality through quantity), the music is OK to sometimes great, and the drinks are cheap. I have never paid over $100 for take-home from there, but I know others who paid quite a bit more – one needs to be willing to negotiate … and to walk away form a deal, if needed. The girls all speak English to some degree, and they specialize in the gringo market. GFE has been hard to find for me there, except for when I met some of the girls in Help that I already knew from outside. Veranda just outside of Help is probably my most favorite spot to people watch. In general one can get a better bargain there for the same quality girl than inside of Help, if for no other reason that the girl is not forced to recover the R33 entrance fee at Help. Help an dVeranda are a fine starting place for the first-timer, if you don't mind paying too much.

#9: Garota Ipanema: Great patio bar in Ipanema, a few blocks from the beach. Pros and non-pros can be found there. It’s like a great neighborhood bar, which also happens to cater to the occasional tourist (or quite a few tourist, sometimes). Some of my best non-pro scores originated there. Yes, it may be cheesy when a rag-tag samba band plays there, but I like the atmosphere. It is a tremendous place to hang with friends and have a good time.

#8: Plataforma 2: a disco right next to the tourist samba show stage Plataforma 1. Hardly a tourist in there, everybody is dancing the night away, tremendous party atmosphere. This is a great place to meet non-pro college girls, if you are comfortable on the dance floor. If the right music is playing, the beat is just pulsing through the crowd, and you feel so alive that everything seems possible. Of course, the downside of this mostly non-pro place is that there are evenings when you are walking away empty-handed.

#7: Holiday and Balcony Bar right below it: fun girls can be found at Balcony, and the owner is an American ex-pat, who is fun to hang out with. Often the girls are not the prettiest, but when you get to know them a good bargain can be had. Holiday is an overpriced tourist trap. But periodically they have a good strip show and girl-on-girl shows. However, I keep them on this list, because one of my all-time greatest Rio finds was one of the strippers that I picked up at Holiday. I had an outrages bar bill and had to pay a hostage release fee to get her out of there, but it was worth it.

#6: Villa Mimosa: A tremendous experience for all of the senses, an absolute must for the sightseeing monger. Yes, the conditions are anywhere from grimy to disgusting (in particular if you have to use a bathroom ;)), but there are some real gems to be found there. And for R26 a 20-min pop you cannot go wrong. Don’t look for a shower after a pop! Also, if your ears are sensitive, bring earplugs. And, for god’s sake, dress down: you are not going to impress anybody with fancy clothes, and you are going to get them dirty anyway. VM is a way of life more than just a mongering destination. Many of the more experienced boys on this board swear by it and call it their home away form home. As for me, I was glad I was there, but the following (more expensive) options rank righer.

#5: 502 and other semi-cheap centro places: If you are into value, the area around Uruguaiana metro station is a cool place to check out. At 502 I learned for the first time in Rio that price is no predictor for quality. R82 for a 40 min pop includes a shower for you and your girl. As opposed to at VM, I feel completely comfortable to go down on a girl in 502. Plus, the area around there contains a crazy mixture of shops, open markets, and cheap eateries, where you can find incredible bargains on food and clothes.

#4: Frank’s: this is more of an American-style strip joint, but with one major difference in that you can score the strippers. In general, I have had TLN take-home for $50 to $80 from there, with one even coming in as low as $20 (after a really fun negotiation of at least 30 minutes length, starting at the customary $100, during which she let me feel all of her offerings :)). The entrance fee is fairly high at R30 or so, but you can get two caipis for this, which makes it not such a bad deal any more. And their strip shows are pretty good. It was also here that I saw my first boy-on-girl sex shown; quite an interesting experience, in particular since I had a girl sitting next to me, who was all over me during the show. My favorite score there was the girl in charge of scheduling the other strippers. When the girl scheduled to strip last was missing, she jumped into the breech, and she put on a performance that seemed to be meant just for me. After that I took her to my hotel right away.

#3: L’uomo: this is my favorite Copa terma. There are always about 20 girls in bikinis in attendance. Most of them speak some sort of English, which enables me to have some kind of conversation with them. Everyone from the locker room attendant to the barkeeper (Peter, great guy, speaks very good English) is real friendly. The girls can dance up a storm. All of the girls are easy to approach, but often approach you first. Paying them a drink can buy you heavy-duty kissing and groping, even if you do not end up taking them to a room later. I can honestly say that I never had bad sex there in 20 to 30 attempts. All of the girls try to please, and so a minimum level of satisfaction is assured. Early in the evening they serve food, and around 9 and perhaps again at 11 they have a strip show. Nothing like at Frank’s, but it is fun and breaks up the evening. In particular if you are a repeat customer and are friendly, they can really make you feel like you are the king of the world. It's expensive, though: my bill are rarely under R300 when I go there.

#2: 4*4: my favorite Rio terma! Unfortunately it is closed on Saturdays and Sundays. The sheer selection trumps everything else. Around 100 girls can be there, and as the evening goes on, it can get pretty raunchy and rowdy. The music is loud, the booze flows freely, the girls get down and dirty, and an atmosphere of animal lust gets going, in which everything seems possible. It is almost as expensive as L’uomo, but worth it. The layout of this place is not easily comprehended, because it exists on three levels, and even the walk form the locker room to the showers is not easy.

And the number 1 is: takeout form L’uomo. L’uomo closes at midnight on the weekends and 1 or 2 am during the week. This means the night is still young, and many things are possible. Officially the girls can get into trouble for going home with the customers, so sharing of phone numbers is usually done pretty hush-hush. But that secrecy can add to the excitement. Of my top-10 TLN experiences in Rio 6 came from L’uomo. And in 4 of those 6 cases the TLN was free of charge. Now, it rarely happens that I score like that on the first night that I meet a girl at L’uomo. Mostly, one has to be a repeat customer inside L’uomo and build up trust and chemistry with the girl first. But I have always found the time and effort well worth it. In general the payoff has been tremendous, and there is no case (OK, well, maybe one) in which I was not blown away by the TLN experience that came from this. I can see three motivations for the girls to do it. First they can make some extra money, perhaps R300 or so for the night. Second, some of them throw in freebies to hook the big gringo fish. But there is also the occasion where I feel that the girl just enjoys uninhibited sex on her own terms with a guy that she has picked. Girls sometimes want to have fun, too!

Jan 156

06-15-07, 21:15

"stuffed shirts"? Thanks for the dig Christopherh! LOL. I really was only going to leave my shirt stuffed in my pants for Cervantes, because you has told me that it was high class.

euro (stuffed shirt, who tried to fit in at VM as good as he could ...)

No way was it a dig at you Euro - it´s always a challenge to multi-hop from one level to another (but great fun) - and you and I have a similar attitude I think to flirting and pleasing the garotas to get good value so I am sure they loved you (and I seem to remember your own report attested to this fact too!)

I think you only had three buttons anyway ;-)

Jan 156

06-15-07, 21:19

I´ve commented occasionally on Noguiera´s - but does anyone have comments on the even dodgier bars round the corner (ie Rana´s and its neighbour).

My own take is probably that if you don´t speak great Porto or know people there then the girls (in a fun way) think you are fair game to be taken for a ride. I quite like the venue, but only drink there for intance if I maybe know the girl from somewhere else.

Pana Nyc

06-16-07, 03:17

I'd say there were about 15 girls working in both Aquarius and Florida when I visited. One hottie in Aquarius (Thais). One hottie in Florida (Bruna). Fucked both of them. :)

Loso
Damn Loso you still going hard at it, I have been home for 1 week now and after my 2 week fuckapades in Rio knocking off 2 garotas per day Im still recovering lucky me the gf is away visiting family. Loso check out Club 31 if you get a chance!!!

Ee2002

06-16-07, 03:41

It's amazing how the drop of the dollar, changes peoples taste in mongering venues. I remember the first few years of my Rio travels, I couldn't find anybody that had a positive comment/experience with VM, outside of Brazilians. The three main mongering sites barely mentioned VM or these other low end spots. Now it's a whole different story.

Hopefully the main termas and Help start feeling the pinch and adjust their prices or offer better promotions. I have been to the low end casas and VM, but couldn't bring myself to partake in any activities at those places. But at the current rate of affairs in Rio, those places are sounding more attractive everytime I read about them.

Bubba Boy

06-16-07, 14:50

Adding to why girls give freebies, it is part of the brazilian culture not to sleep alone, they often grow up sleeping in the same room as brothers and sisters, often up to a whole family in the one room, hence they need to security of another body to feel comfortable. Of course hooking a gringo is an added benefit, I guess it is all part of the package.

Jan 156

06-16-07, 15:55

Nice one Euro.

Here´s my one, for what it´s worth or in case of interest, of ´must-do´s (in no particular order - half are monger spots the other half are non-monger spots as pussy paradise ain´t paradise if it´s in Serbia).

*Help
It´s an institution, good or bad, and has to be seen to be believed. A disco of this size with so many women trying to make off with you is a wonder of the modern world.

*VM
It has some pale reflections in other countries but for sheer low-life party, fast f*cking, variety and numbers, VM takes the biscuit.

*1R a minute (or less) in Centro
You can almost do one in between your main course and dessert at a good restaurant, another one before you start shopping, and one for the road before you get the bus or Metro home.

*4x4
The silver service of american-style sex-on-a-plate

*The restaurant outside of Help
For the sheer quantity of first class women taking second best.

*Sugar Loaf at sunset
One of the photo wonders of the modern world

*Lapa Arches and tram
Across the postcard viaduct up into a different world

*Dancing in the street & clubs in Lapa on a Friday night
The scene is just like that mystical beer advert

*Top chirascurria like Marius or Porcau
Not so much for the food (which is still very good) as for the experience

*Samba rehearsal party in Nilopolis (Sep to Feb), Carnaval (Feb) or a beach party/event in Copa
I haven´t met another nationa that can gather to party in the thousands and still retain such politeness, dignity and openness.

++that´s ten, but don´t forget Copa and Ipanema are two of the most famous beaches in the world - do maybe try to spend at least half a day lying in the sun on one of them! Think of all that vitamin C pepping up your good-time muscles

Tigers787

06-16-07, 19:04

SlickdySlick

06-16-07, 20:28

El Austriaco

06-16-07, 21:15

Here are my top five for both mongering and general tourist stuff, in no particular order.

Mongering-Related

1) Check out Ground Zero (Terraco Atlantico, Meia Pataca)

Even though I haven't picked up any chicks in the Copacabana gringo zoo since 2005, something still always draws me back there. Maybe it's just the nostalgia of returning to the places where it all began for me back in 2002, the first time I went to Rio, the memories of the girls and the mongers I got to know there, the fun times I had. Perhaps it's just to say hi to the waiters and see whether they still remember my usual drinks (surprisingly, they do!). Maybe it's the off-chance to run into old acquaintances and fellow mongers. Maybe it's just the in-your-face carnality of the whole atmosphere, the street vendors minging with hapless tourists wondering what the hell is going on in these joints, amidst the girls and the mongers. Maybe it's just the prospect of running into crazy Ana again (who wrote me a postcard once saying, proundly stating "I hope you don't think I am a prostitute. I am fashion model, and I just like to hang out at MP!"), or the one-legged hooker, or the 70-year old one who just had to show me her naked pictures one day, or the guys living their rap video fantasy, or the German guy I got to know there who worked as a surgeon for the Russian mob. Or Adriana, who hijacked my friend J's passport if he didn't buy here a new color TV. Overall, it's just the greatest freak show on earth for me, and no trip to Rio would be complete for me without at least once immersing myself in it every trip. Hang out at the beach all day in Copacabana or Ipanema, start in mid-afternoon at MP, and move over to TA at around 10 or so. Food at TA actually isn't all that bad.

2) Help

Regardless of whether you find it a good place to pick girls or not, you just have to experience Help to believe that a place like that actually exists. For a mere R$ 23/33 admission, it's a bargain just to check it out. Now, I go mostly to check out the scene and hang with friends and finish of the greatest freak show on earth outside on a high note inside. Drinks are cheap, too.

3) Hit the Termas

Again, no trip to Rio would be complete without checking out the most notorious Zona Sul termas, to forever thank and pay tribute to the guy who had the foresight (human insight) to create the greatest institution on earth. Of course, everyone has his own favorite Termas (I have always been partial to MV 30 in Centro), but I think that if one had to pick a single one, 4X4 would probably the best bet. But since you don't have to pick a single one, check out as many of them as you can, time permitting.

4) Experience 502 on a Friday Evening

If you want to experience a more inexpensive setting with a more Brazilian flair, IMHO, 502 in Centro can't be beat on a Friday evening. Up to 50 half-naked girls partying their ass off with the after-work downtown Brazilian crowd, and very few foreigners. And with prices for programs starting out at less than R$ 100, no extra charge for a standard room, and a minimum consumption of only R$10, you will understand why the place is packed.

5) Slum it Brazilian-Style in Centro

For me personally, there is nothing more satisfying than getting off the beaten track and discovering new places where few, if any, foreigners have ever tread. And as someone very wise said before, if you want to find diamonds in the rough... you gotta go to rough places. It is not so much the low cost of it, it's more the adventure and the novelty that I dig. But ultimately, the joy of finding that one diamond is worth all the trouble, inconvenience, and risk for me. For starters, if you pick one cheap place, go to BA 85. If you make it down that staircase after fucking girls in there, you really feel like you just made it out of purgatory. Never had a bad sexual experience there, never got ripped off or robbed, got to know tons of Brazilian mongers more than happy to hang out together. Simply priceless. And considering the prices you save on purchases in that area as opposed to shopping in Copacabana, you are essentially fucking for free.

Probably would have included VM if I had ever made it there. Next time.

General Tourist Stuff:

Last year, I posted my top 5 non-mongering-related picks for Rio (including pictures). Here you go:

Intro: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=471548&postcount=1217

1) Cristo Redentor:http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=471556&postcount=1218

2) Sugarloaf: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=471560&postcount=1219

3) Maracanã: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=471566&postcount=1220

4) Favela Tours: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=471570&postcount=1221

5) Downtown: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=471573&postcount=1222

Sunset

06-16-07, 21:29

Sunset

06-16-07, 21:31

Pussycat has reopened. The new sign said “go go girls” so I had to take a look. This boite on the opposide side of Praca do Lido as Balcony was transformed into a gay bar, The Red Star, about a year ago. Now it’s back just like before. A drink was ten reals. There was a reasonable selection of girls.

Barrister

06-17-07, 01:11

Hello everyone,

I heard this place is 2 hours away from RIO. Has anyone spent a night in Buzios. I like to know if its recommended to go there with a girl or go alone and find one there.

Thanks TigerBring your own girl to Buzios, Tiger... I went to Buzios a few years ago - beautiful place, but didn't see any pros. Luckily I brought one from HELP with me.

Loso69

06-17-07, 03:17

Pana NYC,

Bruna (Florida) was dessert. Thais (Aquarius) was lunch. My big breakfast consisted of Ellen and Sofia from Club 81. Between 4PM and 4AM, I fucked 4 girls... on my last day in Rio.

Spent the final 2 days of my trip in Sao Paulo and fucked this Playmate:

http://www.mclass.com.br/scripts/mclass.dll/det?codaco=1204&retorno=0

Happy memories. I just got back to dreary old Belgium. :(

Loso

Jan 156

06-17-07, 03:20

Ranas and the dump next to it can be very amusing in the morning when the drunks and tvs are making a scene while others are on their way to work. I saw a particularly bloody fight between three girls with beer bottles about a year ago. A robbery was reported inthe news last week. I usually keep to the other side of the street since the night a tv tried to jack my wallet.

I found it amusing when there were the bullets coming from Leme the other week. The Rana regulars were hugging the edge of the building, making themselves smile as they sipped their beers and grinning (knowing they were less vulnerable than anyone in NS Copa or Min.Viv I suppose). But yes, I am very careful as I walk past too.

Jan 156

06-17-07, 03:22

Mr Enternational - just to let you know that Leandro Martins 5 is open again after the building work - popped in this afternoon. The corner is still decorated with flyers for the sh*t hole next door (LM3) which seems to be struggling. Sorry I directed you there when it had shut for a few days.

Mr Enternational

06-17-07, 04:51

Me and Loso went up and saw all the photos that were on the wall at LM5 while the men were working. Then we went next door to the shit hole. Haha. And it was a shit hole. So much so that the only thing worth anything was the manager and the lady outside handing out the little advertising papers. So I opted to try for relations with the lady outside. She rejected me three times though! How is LM5 now compared to before they remodeled?

JustGotBack

06-17-07, 06:08

Spent the final 2 days of my trip in Sao Paulo and fucked this Playmate:

http://www.mclass.com.br/scripts/mclass.dll/det?codaco=1204&retorno=0

Happy memories. I just got back to dreary old Belgium. :(

Loso

Dreay old Belgium? Compared to the US, Belgium is paradise for sex. How much was that playmate?

I just realized that the Pan America Games are going to be in Rio in July. Is that a bad? Should Rio be avoided during this time. I'm thinking there will be a lot of drunken men all over town. Will there be a huge influx of girls to make up for it?

RioFavelaboy

06-17-07, 08:47

Hello everyone,

I heard this place is 2 hours away from RIO. Has anyone spent a night in Buzios. I like to know if its recommended to go there with a girl or go alone and find one there.

Thanks TigerHey Tiger Barrister is right, Buzios is a bring your own girl spot just went last month for a couple of days and twice last year, it's a nice getaway from Copa and Rio crowds, they have one main club there thats pretty much all techno but it's the happening place on Friday and Saturday nights, you won't find any working girls there that are alone.

They have these cool ass Dune Buggys for rent to get around the city, they are pretty cool to rent depending if you are staying at one of the Posada's that are not on the strip or far away from the strip, over all it's a relaxing place pretty much for upper class Brazilians who have weekend or summer homes and family vacationing Europeans.

Most GDP's tend to very appreciative of this trip especially the ones from Help they know you are spending some cash on them having a great time and it's like a miniature vacation from reality for them, if you take good GDP with you know what I'm talking about.

I hope the weather is good for because the beaches there kicks copa and Impa in the ass, the water is a lot more calmer.

The techno club crowd tends to be pretty young but fun because it's your only true choice basically.

Here is a link that might help you.

Enjoy Tiger!

http://www.buziosonline.com.br/indexe.htm

DFWdude

06-17-07, 15:21

Help and 4X4 sit #1 and #2 in my book!!!

I think Help gets a bad rap because it is so popular. Its like when the kids say they dont like a certain rock band cause everybody knows them. Everybody wants to have the one up on everyone about the most off the beaten path place they know. Off the beaten path is cool but Help is still the SuperBowl of pussy. I have been to Help danced all night, groped serval hot chicks, laughed at many cast of crazy people, and walked out the door at 2:00 am drunk with a hottie (well at least hot enough for that night) for R150.00 TLN. I can say that has never happen to me at VM, but I have had some good times there too, but not as good as Help.

That is one nice part of HELP. You can grope the girls all night long, DFK on the dance floor, (kind of test drive if you will). Then move on to the next girl. At one time in Help I was working three girls at the same time in different sections of the club....Till I got busted by all three then my ass was grass. Those girls do get pissed if your playing around on them. This past year I have been touring the German FKK scene. Kind of different, but still no comparison to Rio.

Dima25

06-17-07, 17:14

Hey guys,

Is mid to late April a good season to go to Rio in terms of weather girls etc.

Jan 156

06-17-07, 18:09

Almotu

06-17-07, 18:45

Where is this LM5 that you are speaking of? in Centro (4x4 area) or around Princessa Isabel (Frank's Bar area)

Thanks in advance.

Jan 156

06-17-07, 21:46

Where is this LM5 that you are speaking of? in Centro (4x4 area) or around Princessa Isabel (Frank's Bar area)

Thanks in advance.

It is off Rua Acre in the area north of Presidente Vargas (see my earlier report on the places in this area, stretching up to Praca Maua). So not Centro exactly, but walking distance.

Tigers787

06-18-07, 08:52

Hey guys,

Is mid to late April a good season to go to Rio in terms of weather girls etc.Hi,

I was there 2nd week of May and it rained 2 days out of the week. If I remmember right month of April should be about the same. Brazil has no winter, its either rain or hot suny day.

Tiger

Abzsafado

06-18-07, 14:30

#4: Frank’s: this is more of an American-style strip joint, but with one major difference in that you can score the strippers. In general, I have had TLN take-home for $50 to $80 from there, with one even coming in as low as $20 (after a really fun negotiation of at least 30 minutes length, starting at the customary $100, during which she let me feel all of her offerings). The entrance fee is fairly high at R30 or so, but you can get two caipis for this, which makes it not such a bad deal any more. And their strip shows are pretty good. It was also here that I saw my first boy-on-girl sex shown; quite an interesting experience, in particular since I had a girl sitting next to me, who was all over me during the show. My favorite score there was the girl in charge of scheduling the other strippers. When the girl scheduled to strip last was missing, she jumped into the breech, and she put on a performance that seemed to be meant just for me. After that I took her to my hotel right away.I presume you are quoting your prices in US dollars. You don't mention in your report that the "girl" in charge of the strippers, Marcia, is in her late 30's at least. But she is still pretty hot. I was in Franks Friday and Saturday. Friday was jumping but the girls are getting on a bit now some of them have been working there 7 years or more. Saturday was a waste of time, only about two girls I would have paid to fuck.

Abzsafado

06-18-07, 17:50

I´m sure you realise he makes these prices up as he goes along. To prove it, I walked in tonight, no entrance fee, no minimum drinks. But to me, 15R for a bottle of warm coke is taking the p*ss.

OK, maybe I am a bit harsh. That´s no more expensive than Stringfellows or Western strip clubs, most of which don´t even put on a decent show. And I admit the manager is a lot less pushy than most of the boite hustlers. The girls are decent. Out of the boites, Frank´s is probably quite a pretty nice place to spend the evening.The entry fee is the minimum consumption of two beers R$30, the same type of deal as Barbarellas R$50 two "local" drinks. The new manager Cesar was just doing a bit of sales pitch, he's a waffling twat. Works in one of the hotels in Copa, nice enough guy just full of shit.

All these places are the same in the price flexibility. I went into Erotika with three English friends the waiter quoted me R$25 a beer, I called over Max the owner and the price came down to R$10. The only strip club that has not tried to rip me off is Ciccolenes ( excuse the spelling).

Abzsafado

06-18-07, 18:16

I went into Tudo Facil today. Slow connection as per usual. I opened up ISG only to find the last user was still logged in. It's ok Bizzie I logged you out without messing with your stuff.

Craps7

06-18-07, 19:50

Hey Mongers,

Senior Member from the US will be in Rio for the weekend of 6/29 - 7/1. Interested in finding an English speaking friend and hitting some of the mongering spots.

Anybody up for it?

El Austriaco

06-18-07, 22:11

Hey guys,

Is mid to late April a good season to go to Rio in terms of weather girls etc.
Yeah, I'd say it's a good time to go. I was there around this time last year, and while it was not as hot as during the Brazilian summer and Carnaval anymore, there was less rain than during the winter months (June to August, more or less). And there are always enough girls to go around. Not as many as during Carnaval, but also far less tourists... so the numbers are actually in your favor. Prices for both P4P and non-P4P should also be more reasonable. Perfect time to go, in my book.

EA

Abzsafado

06-18-07, 23:57

I have been here for a few days now so I suppose I should write my tuppence worth, or two cents worth.

Finally decided to get out of my comfort zone in Copa and head up to Centro.

Incredibly in seven years of coming here I have never went mongering there, something to do with long term GFE's and laziness.

Headed up town on the metro it only took me 25 minutes from leaving the apartment, I live next to Cantagalo station.

Followed Bubbas guide and eventually found 502. I think I got there too early, 3.30pm. There were only 8 girls in and three of them were occupied. I took one up stairs, no names there are photos involved and I don't want to get into the debate. Great body not such a great face, and not a great performance. I thought the place was a real dive but at only R$82 for half an hour and R$15 entrance including three skols it was reasonable value.

Next stop 4x4. At $R40 to get in it was a bit more pricey but the place was everything I had been expecting. I couldn't count the number of girls in there. I tried to count the number of 8+ women but they kept on disappearing down the pole. Settled on a tall blond from the south. R$160 for 40 minutes, nice clean room included. Good performance nice attitude.

Total expenditure in 502, R$97; total in 4x4, R$209. Was it worth the difference in price, definitely yes. The girls in 4x4 were or of the same standard as Barbarellas but a lot less expensive.

Hopefully I will make it to Villa Mimosa on Wednesday, if I can find it, any advice welcome.

Totally unrelated to this report, but I am sitting beside the window in my apartment and all I can smell is the smoke from a neighbours joint, just adds to the atmosphere.

To add to the street theatre, when I walked out of the termas some unlucky Braso had his bag snatched so keep an eye out round there, it's not as safe as Copa.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Euro100

06-19-07, 00:07

I presume you are quoting your prices in US dollars. You don't mention in your report that the "girl" in charge of the strippers, Marcia, is in her late 30's at least. But she is still pretty hot. I was in Franks Friday and Saturday. Friday was jumping but the girls are getting on a bit now some of them have been working there 7 years or more. Saturday was a waste of time, only about two girls I would have paid to fuck.

Yes, when I mean dollars in my posts, then I use the $ sign. When I quote the prices in reais, then I use R.

My experiences at Frank's are all a few years back, at least 5-10 years I'd say. Back then it was the best thing I knew, but I had not discovered the termas yet. And since the exchange rate fluctuated so much then due to high inflation of the Brazilian currency, the girls all wanted to be paid in dollars ($).

Marcia: I don't know her. Back then is was Christina, who did the scheduling. She also had a really hot friend. But I passed on her, because I did not want to cross Christina, who was real nice to me, stayed TLN for next to nothing, and even gave me her home address. (If I had to do it again now, I would certainly try to get a dupla going.)

euro

Euro100

06-19-07, 00:42

... this blond hot white chick I picked up at Frank's. I have forgotten her name by now, because it is at least 10 years ago that this happened. I did not speak a work of Portuguese, was still hunting exclusively for non-pros, and it was either my first or second visit to Frank's (where I went strictly for the "show"). So she sits down next to me, and it turns out that she does not speak any English. We are each talking in our own language, and we are not getting anywhere. All I know is that she is really attractive, and that I really want her.

Suddenly she takes the initiative and DFKs the heck out of me. So then it dawns on me that she is a pro, because even in Rio I had never met any non-pro who was that straightforward. Well, she grabs my hand and leads me out of Frank's. All I could do is down my half-finished caipi, and she half-dragged me after her. Turns out she has a car, and she drives. (Never since did I meet a worker in RIo, who had her own car.) "Hotel" is the same word in english and Portuguese; so when she asked, I said "Luxor Continental, Leme". This was enough for her, and she drove the four short blocks to my hotel.

Amazingly, I still remember the conversation in the hotel lobby very clearly, because we had to have the night manager translate our business negotiations. So the negotiation went like this (each line in English is followed by some sentences in Portuguese between him and her, which I did not understand).

Manager: "She wants to know how much you will pay her for the night."

I: "What? I never pay; I thought she wanted me just because she was attracted to me" (OK, so I was lying, because of course I had a clue what she was about. He laughed and translated. She got upset, talked excitedly to him.)

Manager: "She is programma" (That was the first time I had heard this word in my life, and I did not need a translator to figure out what that meant. He was smiling, waiting for my reaction.) "You need to pay her"

I: "I cannot pay, because I only have fifty dollars in my safe, and that's all I have". (OK, another lie, and he knew it. Why? Because back then at this hotel they just let me take money out at the front desk by charging it to my room. I had done it with him that very evening before going to Frank's. So there was no reason why I could not have added another $200 that way. But he was clearly on my side and having a good time; so he dutifully translated with a smile.)

Now she was visibly upset and talked to him quite a while, probably explaining what a high-class lady he was talking to.

Manager: "She usually charges MUCH more".

So I just made my best impression of the cute puppy eyes full of confusion and said: "$50 is all I have; I and really really like her!"

He grins and translates, she throws up her hands, and walks towards the door without saying a word. Halfway there she shrugs her shoulders and turns around.

Manager: "OK, $50, but only one hour!"

I: "Fine."

And so she signed in, left her passport (all of this was new to me), and we went upstairs. Well, it was much closer to two hours before she left. I walked her downstairs. She grabbed my chin with her hands, shook her head, and planted a thick one on my lips. She said something, which I of course did not understand. So I just did my puppy-eyed look again. She laughed out load, gave me exactly the same snort and dismissive gesture that the girls give me now right before or after calling me a safado, and then she left.

... and I never even had understood what her name was.

After she drove off, I went to the manager, asked him to charge another $50 to my room, and gave him $10 right away. We winked at each other.

euro

Orebell

06-19-07, 01:13

Some preliminaries other than the fun part

Getting my Visa.

I used a company called Visa Express which is at www.visaexpress.net. I got a 90 day Visa. This is but one of many companies out there that handle such things. I think I paid $160 give or take a few dollars and that included the expedited shipping fee back to me. I overnighted all the information to them and had everything back in 7 to 8 days and that includes a weekend in there. I would say I was very happy with their service but am sure that there are other services out there that would do an equally good job.

Plane Ticket

I did a lot of searching for a good price for probably a couple of months. From where I was flying from in the USA, I could not get a round trip price for under $1450. I was willing to pay that but it sure would have been nice to get that price down a bit. Finally I came across a website called Fly Cheap Abroad (www.flycheapabroad.com) Total price including all taxes was $1070. I do not know why it was so much cheaper than all the other sites I had been looking at but if that is what they were willing to sell it for, I figured I better take it while I see it and I did. I find it odd that all the other sites had been showing the same flight for $1450. I did wonder if my seat might be in the lavatory, but no, it was a seat like any other seat.

The only problem that I had was coming back. When I flew into Atlanta, my connecting flight to where I needed to go did not exist any more. The Delta folks said I was re-booked on a later flight 8 hours later. So now I have to sit in Atlanta for 8 hours. Thankfully the folks at Delta were able to change that for me and I ended only having to wait around for 3 hours.

I think what I was most bothered about is no one told me until I arrived in Atlanta. I checked the Delta website and the Fly Cheap Abroad website before I left on my trip to see if there were any changes and there were none. However when I got home, I did log into the Fly Cheap Abroad website and there was a notice telling me of the change. I left on June 10th, the posted the notice on my account on June 12th. I did not check the schedule while I was already in Rio. I was too focused on other things. It was a small problem.

Hotel

I stayed at the Princess Copacabana in Copa. From a location standpoint, it was great. Close to Help and other places one might go to find girls. I booked directly from their website so I do not know if I could have got it cheaper. I thought it was a bit on the expensive side myself. I paid R$1019 for 4 nights which I figure was about $500US or $125 US a night. All in all it was a nice place, I have no complaints. The staff was always very friendly and helpful.

All in all it was a really nice hotel. I guess I would call my room a studio or maybe a one bedroom. It was not anything spectacular that is for sure. Just sort of plain. It had a nice balcony overlooking a noisy street. The noise did not bother me at all.

I wrestled a lot on this one. Should I stay in a hotel or an apartment. I opted for a hotel for a number of reasons. I think the biggest one was that I would be able to talk to someone if I needed some help. For example, the internet in my room was not working well. Sometimes it would work, sometimes not. They were having technical difficulties it turns out. In an apartment, if I had such a problem, I might not get too much help. In fact it even worked out that while were having problems at the hotel with the internet, the guy who was with the ISP was there on site working on the problem and he came up to my room to check it out. In the end, he could not figure out the problem but he was able to show me a place in the hotel where I could connect wirelessly. So that helped. The other thing is the hotel supplied breakfast in the morning. That was nice as I did not have to go running around trying to find a bite to eat and it saved me a few bucks. Supposedly the hotel I was staying was ok with having girls over and that is why I picked it, but I never put that to the test as I never had anyone over. I think there were a lot of other potitives for me staying in a hotel vs an apartment. On a future trip, I may consider an apartment.

Some key learnings for me, maybe obvious to others.

Many guys have said it, learn some Portuguese. I tried to learn a little but was sort of half-assed about it and really did not learn much. I am going to make more of an effort next time to learn more of the language. For the most part there was no problem with the girls with the exception of a couple who did not really try to communicate. Most of the girls I found at least spoke a little and made an effort to try and communicate. If communication bogged down, a kiss and grab of my dick always communicated really well.

Taxis: What really helped me was printing up cards with all the places I wanted to go with the address on them. I did that for every termas on my hit list and my hotel and any other place I wanted to go. Worked superb. I even printed up a small map on the back of some of the cards in case the driver was unsure. Never had a problem once.

Actual details of trip report to follow later.

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Orebell

06-19-07, 01:14

My first termas visit. (4 X 4)

I have read a ton of reports, here and on a couple of other websites about 4 x 4. As good as many of those reports are, nothing can compare to the real thing. After flying 13 plus hours to get to Rio, I checked into my hotel, got myself all organized, and then took a nap. I left my hotel about 2:30 pm figuring with the traffic it might take a while to get there. I think it ended up being about half an hour rolling in there a little after 3 pm. After getting into my robe and taking care of all the formalities such as getting my key, I ventured into the main room. To say I was blown away would be an understatement. I could not believe what I was seeing. Girls were everywhere. They were scantly clad and they were everywhere. I am certain my tongue was on the ground and it had to be obvious. I could not count but I would estimate between 20 and 30 girls. Wow is really all I can say. It was hard to find a seat in the place so I just walked around and stood here and there. I literally could not keep track of all the girls. They were sitting and walking back and forth and standing. Simply amazing. I wanted to wait before picking a girl until I saw them all. That was an impossible task. There were a couple of girls that really looked appealing to me but they were sitting and I could not see the entire package. Finally they stood up and one of them had just the kind of ass I like.

The girl I choose was Miata but I cannot be sure of the spelling. She is a fine looking blonde with a nice bunda. I tried to remember the rules when talking to the girls., but all rules were abandoned. Anal is not that big of a deal to me so I did not ask her but we got around to talking about it and she said she did not do it. I was ok with that. Miata was very sensual which I really like. We probably hung out in the main area for an hour and that girl loves to kiss. If I would have had to leave right then, I would have been happy just kissing her. She is a very sensual girl. I got a one hour session and I would say my first visit to a termas was a success. I really had a good time with this girl. Thankfully she spoke a little english or it could have been very different.

Oh, I did ask about photos and she was cool with that. She asked me not to post them on the internet, so I will respect that. I do not want to cause problems for any girl here in Rio. Miata was fine. She set the mood and we had a nice time. She seemed to have a nice time but that is what a pro is supposed to do.

After our session, I went into the steam room and sauna and had a nice shower and then was ready for round two. Now here is where things took a weird turn. There were even more girls than before. Of course there were more guys too and the place was packed. Now I know what a sardine feels like. What turned weird was the fact that I now became picky. There were lots of girls trying to give me the look to see if I was interested, but I now only wanted to select the girls that really appeal to me. It was hard to move and it was hard to sort out all the girls. I finally narrowed my interest to 3 ladies but two of them looked like they were trying to make a deal with a couple of guys and the other one just would not look my way which I took as she was not interested. I would say the girls outnumbered the guys by 3 to 1. What I find weird is not giving many of these ladies a second look. Even the ones who did not make my top 3 were very good. Many of these women were down right knock out beautiful, but I had my sights set on something that appealed to me and I was not going to back down, or so I thought. I still cannot believe how picky I became. No her ass is just not right, too small of boobs, I want a brunette this time and on and on thinking of reasons I did not want this one or that one. How insane.

I was having trouble connecting with my top 3 and was beginning to get worried because it was getting late and I did not want my top choices to leave. I found a young lady that was appealing. It did not work out so well. She literally did not speak a word of english and me not a word of portuguese. Not only that, she really did not even try to communicate in some way. That made for an awkward situation and both of us wanted to bail. Now I was really gettting desperate. I needed to grab someone for round two. I remember someone saying not to have a second round with the same girl. I did not want to break that rule so I did not pick Miata again even though I think she would have been willing.

Instead I picked a skinny girl named Barbara. I do not really care for skinny girls. Barbara seemed nasty in the main area. Really there was no mood set by her. All in all it was not so good of a situation. We did the deed, but it certainly was not what I expected. My fault really as I picked someone who really did not appeal to me all that much.

All in all, I was pretty happy with my experience there. The sheer number of beautiful girls was beyond belief. I really thought I had died and made it to heaven or maybe hell, whichever it is, it was amazing. The place was very crowded with people, thankfully most of them girls. I don't know if this was a busy night or not, but if it was not a busy night, what must it be like on a busy night. Not knowing the language surely put me at a disadvantage. I tried doing a little learning before I left, but I was not as committed as I should have been with it. My recommendation is at least learn a few basics. My focus on planning was too much on what I would do, where things are and on how many girls I was going to try and do.

One thing I would like to add. I have seen it written in other reports how these girls can get very possessive. I noticed a little of that with Miata. Here we are sitting and within 5 minutes she has her tongue in my mouth. Yet, there would be girls who would be coming by and I would take a glance of course. There was this one time where two girls stood in front us as we were sitting and both of them had nice bundas. I took a glance of course but I certainly was not staring at their asses. Actually it was Miata who noticed their asses right in front of us and pointed them out and then I looked and then she tried to cover my eyes. At one point during our sit on the couch Miata even made a gesture of a ring on the marriage hand and pointed to her and I. I am sure she was just kidding, but crap these girls do get attached. It was like we were boyfriend and girlfriend already and engaged to be married. To be honest with ya, since I really liked her, I thought it was cute. However I can see where it could be a situation that could get complicated. Miata is a girl I could have easily had back in my hotel room and had some fun with. However I just do not want to go that route. I may give in once on this trip if the situation arises to have a girl over to the hotel, but I am going to do my best not to. I do not want to get stuck with someone and then have a ball and chain around me and have to make up excuses to go and bang other girls. I already had to make up some excuses just to get here to Rio.

Here are a couple of interesting things. When I went to leave, they told me my bill was R$ 589, which seemed a little high to me. I looked the tab and it actually said $489. The girl at the front desk asked about a tip. She was going to add R$100 to my bill. I thought that was a little bit sneaky and so I opted not to. Then when I was walking out the door, the doorman asked me if I needed a taxi. I said yes. He then pointed out that tips were optional. Ok I thought I would shoot him a couple of bucks but the smallest bill I had was a R$10. He said no problem I give you change. He snatched the R$10 and gave me a R$5 before I could blink. Oh well, what the hell. I was not going to beef with a guy for a couple of bucks. I need to make sure I get some smaller bills next time I go out. Back to the rest of the story.

When I left 4 x 4, it was almost 11 pm. So I was there from a little past 3 until almost 11. I do not know where the time went. I wish I could have stayed longer but I had not eaten since about 7 am that morning when I was on the plane and I needed a bite to eat. To top it off, I was really exhausted. I had been on a plane for almost 14 hours with not much sleep and a brief maybe hour and half nap in the hotel room. I found a little open air food and drink place about 50 yards from the hotel that had a couple of slices of pizza left. Ate those and crashed about midnight and slept until 11 am. Wow, I needed that sleep. Day 2 is coming up.

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Orebell

06-19-07, 01:15

Day 2 (Solarium)

After getting up at 11 am with a good nights sleep, Solarium was on the docket for today. I fiddled around in my room, getting on the internet, shaving, showering and all that good stuff. Got all my goods in order and left for Solarium at 2:30 pm. However before that I needed to take care of some business. I needed to exchange some cash and I had seen Blame it on Rio travel down the street a block. It said cambio on their sign which I understood to be a place where I could exchange some American dollars for Brazilian money. They said they do not do that. Hmm, maybe I misunderstood what a cambio is. Oh well, they pointed me across the street to some place and I was in and out in two minutes. Also found out where the ATM was which was like half a block from my hotel. Used the ATM and it gave me cash. Lovely as I was a little worried about finding an ATM.

OK, cash in pocket and everything else and I am ready to go. I got to Solarium about 4 pm. Same ol routine and I was in a robe ready to be meat for the wolves. Got in the bar area and there were 2 guys and maybe 8 girls all unoccupied and looking hungry. Don't make eye contact, don't make eye contact is what I kept telling myself. The two guys sitting there were talking in English so after a half hour or so I went over and sat near those two guys and started talking to them. Both were Americans, but one lives in Brazil. I guess they are regulars who read these boards, but I do not remember their names. Nice to talk with someone who spoke some English. Those two hung around for about another 45 minutes and then they were out of there.

So now I am sitting there with maybe 10 girls and one other guy. Finally I relented and made some eye contact with a dark haired girl. Her name is Giovana. Not much English, but within minute her tongue was down my throat. We tried to communicate and maybe sat there for half an hour or so before deciding to take her to a room. She has a really nice body which most of the girls do but her face was so so. She was not ugly but she was not a knock out either. But she was friendly. She would not let me do photos unless I paid extra. No way but it was not a big deal to me. All the pictures will do is provide memories for me. I am sure my memory of her will fade faster with no pictures. All in all I had a really nice time with her. After our session, hung out in the sauna and then the steam room and then showered. I was thinking of heading back to my hotel as this was the 3rd girl in 24 hours, but I just could not tear myself away. I went back into the bar area and now there were about 20 girls maybe more and 2 guys. I have to say it is really difficult to pick girls. So many choices, so little time. I could not believe that I was sitting there with so many girls available. I would say I sat there for about 45 minutes alone. Then a blonde came and sat near me and was talking to some other girls. Slowly this nice blonde made some contact with me. She looked really young. I did not want to be rude and tried to make some small talk with her. Almost no English. I want to say she said her name was Doris. She had a really nice sized bunda which was appealing, but because she looked so young I was not all that excited about her. Turns out she is 21 and she looked younger. I prefer a little older girl in looks at least. Then another blonde came by and was like a tiger trying to get my attention. I finally relented and went with the second blonde. Her name is Sharon. Sharon was cool with pictures but she said no internet so I will respect that. We had a nice trying to chat and then we went to the room. Things started off pretty well, with me going down on her which she seemed to really enjoy and then she went down on me which I really enjoyed. However after a little sexo, I started to lose it. This was my 4th girl in 24 hours and I think that is just too much for me. The mind was willing, but the blood was just not flowing to the right place. I tried to get Sharon to resume blowing me, but I think she thought I wanted to cum in her mouth and she seemed uncomfortable. Not that I would not have minded, but I really just wanted her to blow me some more and get me off that way. She could have put the shot anywhere she wanted and I did not know how to communicate that with her. She really gave a nice blow job but maybe she was worried I would blow in her mouth or maybe her mouth was getting tired because she just tried to jerk me off. It just was not working for me. I thought that maybe she could sense that when ever she took me in her mouth that I would get harder and then when she would take it out things would go south. Finally I told her I was too tired. We laid around and kissed some and caressed as well. Really it was not Sharon's fault at all. Too much in a 24 hour period is what I think did me in. I wish I were 20 years younger.

Sharon said she was going to give me her email address so I could send her the pictures and her phone number so maybe we could meet up for dinner. I thought she said she would meet me downstairs after I got dressed but I did not see her. Maybe I screwed up or something and misunderstood her. Who knows. Back to the hotel, food and sleep.

On day 3, I have not nailed down where I want to exactly, but where ever it is, I don't think I can do two sessions. One session should do it. I also think I need a really nasty girl. So far with the 4 girls I had, I did not ask for anal but two of the girls said they do not like it. None of the 4 girls has offered up their ass for me. I just think I want someone willing to do it who is really nasty. I also really would like a girl who will take a cum shot in the mouth. I am not expecting any girl to do it but it sure would be nice. So I need a super hot **** willing to do anything, within reason of course.

My initial plan on this trip was to do 5 to 8 girls in a 5 day trip. I wish I could do two sessions a day for all 5 days, but I don't think I have it in me.

So far after two days in Rio I am very happy. 4 x 4 was like going 100 mph with all the girls and action. Solarium was like going 75 mph. So far I would say incredible.

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Orebell

06-19-07, 01:17

Day 3 (Luomo)

I got up much earlier than before and wanted to a little walking around Copa. I walked down the beach and down towards Help, crossed over the street and then walked a little way back but not too far. I wanted to kick it in front of one of those stands that sell food and drink. I could see all the various guys peddling their wares and pretty much ignored them all or waved them off. I sat at one of the stands sipping my water and just watching people go by. I had one vendor trying to sell me some shirts and he seemed nice and all, but I really just was not interested.

As I was sitting there watching people go by and all the happenings there were these two couples that came by. I heard one of the guys say he needed some shades and he went over to one of these vendors to get some shades. Within a minute, these two couples had 4 or 5 vendors all around them all trying to sell them something. I was sitting there thinking to myself, they are the bait and the bait just jumped in the shark tank. I watched them for maybe 10 minutes or so buying this and buying that and more vendors came. It was like a feeding frenzy. Then they walked down by me at the stand to get some thing to drink it looked like. I heard one of the guys say to his wife or girlfriend something to the effect of trying to get away from all these vendors. I wanted to tell them they are bait and are swimming with sharks, but I did not want to butt in. What a sight to see that is for sure.

I then went back to my apartment and took a little nap. Then it was time to figure out where to go. I had my thoughts leaning towards Centaurus. I figured I better do some more reading on the place. One of the reports I downloaded from a website really was not too fond of the place. So I changed my mind and decided on Luomo. I grabbed a cab out in front of my hotel, gave the driver my directions printed on a little card and off we went. Uh oh, I forgot about checking to see of the meter was running. It wasn't but we were already down the street before I noticed it. I figured I will just roll with this. I know it is not far and I wonder how badly I am going to get screwed over. He charged me R$10 which I did not think was bad at all. On the way back, it cost me R$7 so I might have got taken for a little bit if at all.

I got to Luomo about 7:30 pm. Got all hooked up and in to the boite I went. There were not a lot of girls compared to 4 x 4 or even Solarium the night before. I am going to say maybe 15 girls give or take a few. Most of the girls were very thin. Don't get me wrong, most of them were very attractive, but for me I really like a bigger girl with a bigger bunda. There was one that caught my eye that met my criteria and I would say 3 others that I probably would have went with. It did not take long for the one I wanted to make it over. I find that simply amazing. A little eye contact, a smile and the girls are right there ready to meet you. The girls name is Gabriella. Back to the usual sitting on the couch, sucking a drink and kissing and fondling a hot looking girl. I have to tell ya, this place (Rio) is simply off the charts. I mean where else can you go and hang out with hot looking women wearing barely nothing who probably on the street in the USA would not give you a first look let alone a second look. I mean, this really is unbelievable. What is even more mind blowing is I probably have not even scratched the surface of what is out there in Rio.

Gabriella was really a nice looking girl, but her body is what I really liked. She really liked to kiss in the bar area but not as much passion as some of the other girls I had already been with. I actually was a little worried because she was not as much into the kissing in comparison with the other girls I had seen. I was thinking maybe I made the wrong choice. Oh screw it, I am going to do this girl regardless of that. After maybe an hour sitting around and having fun with her, we went to a room. OK, so far she was the best one on my trip in the room. No problem with BBBJ. Excellent. She was happy to kiss me all over which I really like and asked me if I would do the same to her. No problem I really like that. I dined at the Y for a while. Then it was on to vaginal sex. A couple of positions. Now here comes the problem. I just cannot keep it hard enough to really keep it going for any extended period of time. I don't know if it is the condoms or it is a problem with my high blood pressure and keeping it hard for a long time. I had some Viagra with me, but I felt like things were going good and I would not need it.

Let me side track here for a minute. I don't know much about all these male performance drugs. What I should have done was went to my doctor before I came here and talked to him about this. Maybe we could have experimented with different drugs to see what would work for me. I did pick up some Cialis and Viagra on the internet which probably was a real mistake to try it first here. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

The first night at 4 x 4, I took 50mg of Viagra just before going into the boite. Honestly I did not notice anything at all. I was plenty excited without any thing. I then took a second 50 mg a few hours later with the second girl and I did not feel any different or notice anything different. So maybe I should have taken the whole 100mg. I got one of those left that I might try.

Then on night two, I took a 20 mg Cialis. Supposedly Cialis can last up to 36 hours. I did not feel any different that is for sure. I did not notice anything out of the ordinary either. On night 2, I had no problem with girl #1, but girl #2, I just could keep it going. Now maybe the fact that this was my 4th girl in essentially 24 hours was maybe just too much for me and no drug could help. I am not a young spring chicken anymore and my sex drive has for sure slowed down over the past few years.

So on night #3, I was a little concerned about taking a viagra when I had taken a Cialis 24 hours earlier considering that the Cialis can last up to 36 hours. The other thing I am not sure about is are there any potential problems taking the two so close together (24 hours) with one being in my system still. So I did not take anything on night #3.

Back to Gabriella. She then asks me if I want to put it in her ass. I am like freaking ok, finally. I tried and I tried but I just could not keep it hard enough to get in. I wanted to cut off my dick right then and there and throw it across the freaking room. Gabriella was very understanding and she finished me off with a BBBJ which is something I do not get often and throughly enjoy so I was pretty happy. After that, Gabriella laid around a bit and then she brought out a little vibrating toy. She asked me if I would help her get off. No problem and I went down on her while she played with the toy and rubbed herself. I am pretty sure from the sound of it and the wetness of it that she had a nice orgasm.

By far for me, this girl was the best I have had in Rio. The little bit of lacking passion in the bar area did not amount to anything as she was plenty passionate in the room. I had a good time that is for sure and I think she did too.

As I stated earlier, I only planned on one session for today as I do not think I have it in me to do two again for the 3 rd day in a row. But, damn, I wanted to go back in the bar area and just kick back for a while. I was hoping that Gabriella might be willing to hang with me and fool around a bit some more, but she seemed a bit distant. I mean she came over a couple of times and hugged and kissed me, but then she would go away and dance or sit on the couch by herself or with another girl. One of the times she came over and asked me if I liked any of the other girls. I said yes, there were some girls that I liked but I only wanted to see one girl tonight and did not want to get anything started with another girl and then leave which would not be right and make another girl angry. I told her I really liked her which I did. A few minutes later, after Gabriella was out on the floor dancing, another girl came up to me and tried to chat me up a bit. She was very nice and all but I told her I would be leaving in about 5 minutes. She understood and left. What was sort of interesting was that when this other girl came up to me, I noticed Gabriella walk over to this guy who already had a girl trying to work him and she started hugging on this guy. Maybe it was my vivid imagination, but I swear I caught a glance of a dirty look towards me from Gabriella. I am sure it was my imagination. Within 3 minutes the other girl left and then Gabriella came over. Hmm, ok. I then told I was going to leave but I would be back (which I may come back before I leave). All in all I was pretty happy with the session.

As I was sitting there by the beach, earlier in the day people watching, and as I was walking around, during the daytime, in Copa, I am just blown away by the number of fine looking girls in Brazil. I am not gonna say that there are a ton of out and out beautiful girls. But there are so many girls with fine bodies and an ok face it is amazing to see. You can sit on a corner grabbing a bite to eat and with in a minute you will some nice looking girl with a smoking body walk by. It really is amazing.

I think for my next days venture, I am going to back to 4 x 4. I have crossed Centaurus off my list. Monte Carlo I also think is off the list. So Thursday will be 4 x 4 and then on my last day if all goes well, I think a trip back to Solarium is the tenative plan for now. If I do that, I will have done 7 (hopefully different) girls in 5 days. I don't think I can be too disappointed with that. I wish I could stay longer. If I were here for a few weeks or even a couple of weeks, I could hit a termas every other night and I would be very happy. Rio is fucking awesome.

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Orebell

06-19-07, 01:18

Day 4 (4 x 4 again)

I did a little walking around in the morning, but not too far. Ate the hotel breakfast which is part of the room cost. Went and got a banana protein drink which I really like and then back to the hotel for a late morning nap.

After I got up, the debate started. Where do I go today. I kicked around a few choices and finally 4 x 4 kept coming to my mind. So off to 4 x 4 again and I arrive about 3:30. In the locker room there were two guys from the states that I struck up a conversation with. I don't remember their names, but nice guys. One thing I really like doing is shooting the crap with someone from the US. For one thing it is nice to talk to someone who speaks english and someone that I have something in common with. After chatting in the locker room, it was off to the meat market.

As I walked into the bar area one of the first girls I see is the first girl I had the first night. I even remembered her name, Miata. I was thinking, oh crap, I hope she is not going to get pissed off at me. Don't get me wrong, I would love to have seen her again, but not right now. Right now, I am on a mission to do a different girl each time. Maybe when I have exhausted myself or find someone who just blows me away will I repeat. I gave Miata a kiss and said hello, how are you and she was very nice to me. I then stepped away to get myself a drink. Including the girls I am going to tell you about, Miata was for sure the most sensual outside the room out of them all.

As I stated previously in my report, because of just being able to get it up problems, I only planned on seeing one girl tonight. There are so many girls in this place it boggles the mind. It really seriously is brain overload on hot women. And very few of them do not appeal to me. But I know what I like figured I would move around a bit and see what the selection was. There are a number of possibles for me, but one seems to be catching my eye today. She is a tall girl with a nice sized bunda, which is a must for me. Her name is Renata but she looks like Pocahontas. A very good looking girl. A little eye contact and she is over in a flash.

In no time at all, we are caressing and kissing. I love the termas. Now here is where things get a little unsure for me. Renata does not speak much english which is not a big deal, but she just does not talk much. I mean at least try to communicate even if it is by sign language. Maybe she is a little on the the shy side. In a way, just because of her not talking much, I was wishing I could get out of this. Here I have been smooching with the girl and I really like her looks, but I wanted a little more communication. I did not want to pass her up though.

So off to the room we went. Before that I went to my locker, grabbed the last 100mg Viagra I had and downed it. I figure since I did not notice anything with the 50mg, maybe 100mg would do it. I was not worried about it all that much since I was only planning on doing one girl so it was more of an experiment than anything.

In the room with Renata, I figured I would try to get her warmed up by dining at the Y. She seemed to really enjoy it and I really worked hard for her. I figure if she enjoys it, then when it is my turn, some good payback is in order. I love a BBBJ in case anyone cares. So now it is my turn. I must say, I was very disappointed. She seemed only interested in sucking and really more like licking on the head than anything. I like a girl to go down and up and repeat many times. I was not having any problem keeping it up, but her BBBJ was not what I was expecting and not for very long. I probably spent easily 20 minutes on her. I think she spent 5 minutes on me.

Then it was on with the raincoat and away we went. I enjoyed the sex with her and had no problem filling the condom. All in all, I don't think I would repeat with her. She looks good and tastes good but because of the weak BBBJ, I would not spend my time with her again. After the session laying on the bed talking to her, I think I understood her to say she has a boyfriend. Maybe that has something to do with her performance, I don't know. Certainly not a waste of time for me, but not a repeat either.

So now I hit the shower, sauna and steam room for a bit and believe it or not I am feeling pretty good. It is really hard to feel bad when almost naked chicks are walking by almost all the time. OK, I thought, I am going to give this another shot. I think I can do it. I head back into the boite and right away I spot a girl near the front door who looked really interesting to me. I figure what the hell, make some eye contact and don't mess around because she could be gone in a flash. I sat down close by where she was standing. I was eye level with her bunda which was calling me I am sure of that. Within two minutes, eye contact was made and she was sitting down. She did not speak much english but she really made an attempt to communicate with me. She actually did pretty well communicating. Alright a girl who will not just sit there but will try to make it happen.

We chatted up for a bit, made out like crazy and seemed to have a nice time. After say half an hour she says that when we go to the room she has something special for me. Oh, I love surprises. Hopefully it is one I like. I was feeling it pretty good with her so I figure the 100mg Viagra is doing its thing. Oh her name is Lidiane.

Now, for the actions in the room. First off, she likes and I would even say loves giving a BBBJ. My kinda girl. She sucked like she really enjoyed it. I know I sure did. I would have been happy to return the favor to her, but she did not seem interested so I was not going to push it. She put the raincoat on and then jumped on. She was on me cowgirl and reverse cowgirl which was really nice. Then we went to doggie, and then to missionary where I finished. Afterwards we held each other which was nice and had some nice conversation. She was telling me about some nice places to eat because I was tired of cheese pizza which I had been eating every night. She said she was going to write down the names of the restaurants for me, but maybe she forgot. We parted ways at the reception desk and she said she was going up stairs. I tried to take my time checking out in hopes I could say good bye to her again and get those names of those restaurants, but I did not see her again. Oh well, I assuming she was off for her next customer and I was tired out.

Would I do her again? For sure, but not a second time on this trip in the termas. No repeats for me on this trip. She was good though.

When I got back to my hotel, I talked the guys at the front desk about what would be a good restaurant. They gave me a few suggestions and the one I picked was Marius. What a superb place. I guess it is either seafood or beef. I opted for seafood and I have to say it was the best restaurant I have ever eaten at in my life. The seafood kept coming and I kept eating until I was about to explode. Superb place.

Tomorrow is my last day here. I have yet to decide where I want to go. I had a goal of 5 to 8 girls on this trip and so far I am at 7 in 4 days. I am very happy with that. I need to get another 100mg Viagra in the morning. I do not fly out until 11 pm. I figure if I am at the airport by 9 pm, I should be safe. So at the latest I need to leave where ever I am by 8 or if I am closer to the airport, maybe 8:30 pm. I figure that time of the night should not be a ton of traffic and even if there is, getting there by 9 pm gives me a little leeway also.

So I am kicking around going back to 4 x 4. Why, because it opens early and if I am feeling good, I may opt for 2 sessions there. If not, only one session will be fine, but it is my last day here and I don't know when or if ever I will get back to this town and if I can get more than one session in, I want to do it. My other thought was going back to Solarium which I really enjoyed but the low number of girls is a concern and they open later and it might be really hard to go two sessions there if all goes well. So that is my dilemma. I will sleep on it over night.

I have probably said it too much already in this report, but Rio is simply amazing. I have only done a termas trip and I planned it that way from the beginning. I have only hit a few of the many termas's in the city. I did not make it to Help and I only walked by Mia Pataca when there were only a few people there. I did not call any of the numerous escort services here in the area mainly because of the language barrier. Next time I would really like to try having a girl over to the apartment or hotel for an overnighter. I think that could be fun. This place rocks.

Off to bed at midnight

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Orebell

06-19-07, 01:19

Day 5 (4 x 4) a third time.

Up in the morning by 9:30 am, down for breakfast and then to the front desk asking for a 2 pm checkout. No problem. Back to the room, start packing and then off to the drug store for some Viagra. Back to the room, a small nap and then shower. At 1:30, take my bags downstairs and then off to 4 x 4 for opening. I figure I got from 2 pm until about 8 pm to get two sessions in if I can do it. Then back to the hotel to pick up my bags. I know sort of dumb to go back to my hotel to pick up my bags, but I just do not feel safe enough leaving my bags in 4 x 4. So I will have a little extra cab expense, big fucking deal. If I only end up doing one session, I will cruise around Copa a bit. Maybe even find a driver to just drive me around for an hour or so and check out the area. I have a feeling that it will be two sessions tonight so I am happy.

Got to 4 x 4 at opening. Have I said how much I love this place. I certainly do. Here I am at 2 pm on a friday afternoon with a room fully of scantly clad chicks and one of only a handful of guys. Now I know there are not as many girls as there will be later on, but there are still more girls at 2 pm than some clubs get at peak time. It does not get any better than this. Saw Miata again right off the bat. She is a sweetie that is for sure. Said hi to her, gave her a kiss. I contemplated going with her again, but remember my rules this trip. I also saw Pocahontas who I did the other night and she blew me a kiss from across the room. No chance of doing her again.

A few girls came by and said hi, real hotties of course, but not exactly what I wanted right at the moment. Tempting though. Then there was this cute petite blonde girl with bigger than average boobs. She was having a good time dancing and smiling up a storm which I really liked. OK, she looks like a good one. Time to make a choice and see what happens. A little eye contact and she is over in a flash. Upon kissing her I noticed that her breath was not the best. It was not a deal killer, but she could have used a tic tac. She was very passionate and after a while of trying to sit there and make some conversation, it was off to the room. A nice BBBJ as she told me earlier that she loves to suck. She certainly does and does it well. Then it was onto to a few positions and we ended up in missionary. I was not planning on doing anal, but she grabbed some lube for me and for her and in her ass I went. Oh yeah. Thank you sweetie. I finished that way. Had to. Then we went for a shower together. That was nice as most of the girls I had been with seemed to want to shower by themselves. Then after the shower we laid on the bed, tried to communicate and had some nice intimate time together. She actually started in on another BBBJ but I knew there was not much time left and I told her to just relax as I did not want to get something started that we might not be able to finish. That was real nice though. Except for her breath being a little off, she was a lot of fun. A real sweetie who I would do again. Her name is Veluma or something like that.

Then it was up for a sauna and steam room and shower. While I was there brushing my teeth, a couple of guys were taking care of things for themselves and I heard them speaking english. So I made some small talk with them. Nice guys and I guess they were with a group of 6 or 8 and they had a few first timers there. Some of their other buddies came in and they were the first timers and they were remarking how awesome this place is and they had not even went in the bar area yet. I really got a kick out of their reactions. Really, the first time you see something like this is a mind blowing experience. Heck even the 3rd time is mind blowing. It is just a kick though to see some guys reactions.

Anyway enough of that and for me it was back to the bar area for my next choice. There were a few I was considering, but had not made a decision. One of the possibles was snatched up. Then a second. Then the third one too but I guess it did not work out for them as she was now free again. Sweet. This one was a tall dark haired girl with a big bunda. As soon as she came over to me, I knew this one was going to be a handful for me. She just about sucked my face off . Wow. I usually do not care for girls taller than me, but what the hell. She spoke pretty good english and I figured she must have been around a while. Her name is Angelina or something like that. This girl is in shape let me tell you. Her ass is simply rock hard. She said she works out a lot. I'll say.

I knew time was getting short so off to the room. Oh my, could this girl suck and suck. The sex was really so so to be honest, nothing really fantastic. I really feel she was just too much woman for me to handle personally. After the session, we talked for a bit. Very friendly and I learned a lot from her about the business she in. Oh and it turns out she has been in the business herself almost 8 years. For sure a pro.

Would I personally repeat with her? No probably not. As we were talking, she explained to me that she needs to have sex every single day. Exactly what I thought, too much woman for me. Nice girl though and can suck your dick through a straw.

All in all I did a total of 9 different girls in a little less than 5 days. That was a lot for me and a little more than I planned for. I felt like I was running a marathon. It was so hard to tear myself away from the termas. After one session and feeling pretty tired, as soon as I saw girls walking around, I had to go back for more.

So now my trip is coming to an end. I have to be honest, I actually felt sad as I was beginning to leave this place. I am not sure who or what I am feeling sad for. Maybe for myself because it really is sad that I have to leave. I felt sad because I had a really good time with most of the girls. I think I am really going to miss most of them. Sad also because there were a good half dozen that I did not get to do. Next time, next time.

What I really would like to do next time is see a girl back a my apartment/hotel for the night. It would also be nice to take one of them out and maybe share a really nice dinner. Heck it really is no fun eating solo.

One last thing as I close off. As I was in the taxi on the way back to the airport, I find it interesting that here I was and I speak almost no portuguese and the driver speaks almost no english yet somehow we were able to communicate and believe it or not, we both were laughing our heads off at the little we were able to communicate for most of the 20 minute or so ride. I find that amazing that two people can do that who barely understand each other's language.

I had a blast here in Rio. I think when I get back home, I will contemplate if and when I can get back here. I know I certainly would like to get back here for sure. Rio I love you.

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Hojo

06-19-07, 01:37

I'll be back in Rio early July. It's been a while and I remember always getting the best exchange rate at Help or that jewelry store across the street from Tudo Facil. Is this still the case?

You mongers tell my girls Daniella from Help, and Shayla from Lumono that I'm comming home!

pop till you drop,
hojo

Mangera

06-19-07, 02:34

i THOUGHT SHE WAS NOT WORKING THERE ANYMORE.

Euro100

06-19-07, 04:23

i THOUGHT SHE WAS NOT WORKING THERE ANYMORE.

I did not see her there last week.

Dodger Bulldog

06-19-07, 04:47

Shayla from Lumono that I'm comming home!I did not see her there last week, either.

DB

Hojo

06-19-07, 06:20

Take a good look. Are you guys absolutely sure this girl wasn't at Luomono?
She said I was her only true love (that hour).

pop till you drop,
hojo

Tigers787

06-19-07, 08:38

Take a good look. Are you guys absolutely sure this girl wasn't at Luomono?

She said I was her only true love (that hour).

Pop till you drop,

hojoI was there on May 20th and i did not see her there.

I hope this helps.

Tiger

The Cane

06-19-07, 12:23

Take a good look. Are you guys absolutely sure this girl wasn't at Luomono?

She said I was her only true love (that hour).

Pop till you drop,

HojoI saw her there in March! When I go back, if she's still there, then I'm gonna be her man (of the hour!) Hahaha!

Kid Cisco

06-19-07, 17:56

i THOUGHT SHE WAS NOT WORKING THERE ANYMORE.I was also told she left the sex trade business and she found some RICH sugar daddy to take care of her needs.

Maybe it didn't work out ( it mostly never does) BUT if she is there I will galdly help her out with a all nigther!

Kid Cisco

Jesuscola

06-19-07, 21:36

Shayla is, indeed, "off the program. " According to her, "permanently. " Word is, she has gone back to school. "Going back to school" (along with "Hopes to open a business") is code for "Planning to get away from him as soon as I can."

Bubba Boy

06-19-07, 21:47

She is there on and off, she travels, dates the odd dude here and there but generally returns. She is in Rio now, saw her the other day.

Benjoe

06-19-07, 23:12

It doesn't really matter -- but a couple of her co-workers told me that Shayla was a lesbian. Nonetheless, she was great in the cabine.

The Cane

06-20-07, 00:02

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Hojo

06-20-07, 00:08

Shayla's biggest talent is what I call the cowgirl jackhammer. She banged me harder than I ever banged a girl before. She was the first time I ever had to hold on for the ride. Yippy Kia aaaa!

Does anyone know if this other girl is still in Copa Cabana? I last saw her in Monte Carlo, but her name escapes me. I'll be seeing her in July if she's still there. I call this beautiful girl the angel of love. Only 9s and 10s in my book. My girl Daniella used to always wonder why I would turn down sex around 3pm as I ran out the door to see this other girl. I did this for 3 weeks my last visit and it put me in the best shape of my life. Back then I bet I could bust down a steel door with a pelvic thrust.

pop till you drop,
hojo

Bubba Boy

06-20-07, 01:10

Shayla is definitely a lesbian, she has been dating the same woman off and on for about 5 years. I have seen them about occasionally together, any girl at Luomo will confirm this.

Craps7

06-20-07, 04:32

Shayla is a perfect 10 in my book and I will make a trip to Luomo next weekend to try to locate.

Great pics.

Jan 156

06-20-07, 10:17

If anyone is still kicking around the Leandro Martins area (nice No.5 and sh*thole No.3) and is fed up with Brasilian food, there is some very acceptable yakisoba almost opposite.

The cafe next to Afrodity on Rua Uruguaiana (No.145). I picked up a leaflet by mistake. In Afrodity (which now sports a very glossy double-sided leaflet), the yakisoba is the main interest of the day. When was the last time I found a girl´s food more interesting than her face? I am pleased it takes five minutes to get the video jukebox to operate (no fichas - they all but iron my 2R bill to get it to work). It affords me time to inspect the girls in lack of light. I decide the yakisoba is the better option. (Very nice it is too - crunchy veg version less than 5R).

I´ve just remembered the main point of this story is that Rua Acre 120 (betwen Afrodity and Leando Martins) is kinda worth a visit. I have yet to s more than two girls on. On of them is probably Roberta, who is also (usually) probably the better looking. Though yesterday both looked fine. Roberta usually just stands around stark b*llock naked chatting, eating lunch or whatever. I´ve always found thm very friendly. Anyway, today she is wearing a dental floss pair of panties. That was too much. I just had to take them off.

Another leaflet for around here - and address to add to the list - is for Rua dos Andradas 129 - which is between Uruguaiana and Conceicao (entrance from corner of Floriano). I mention it as it is maybe helpful to have volume in this area and sort through them quickly.

I am wondering if it is true that the more leaflets handed out the worse the place is.

(Centro)
One exception is the ever gutsy Rua d.Carioca 59. But they are well established. Less so (and related to the Andradas place only in Centro) is Rua Visconde de Rio Branco 36, (which is a continuation of R.Carioca) But today I try my luck in Casarao, just opposite. A cutie there wears me out (so I think). Just to check, I sit down to some porno across the road in the cinema. After sausages in Bar Luis. The porno does nothing for me. But there are more than the usual number of ´ladies´patrolling the aisles. A good grope from one of them without leaving my seat. Hard again. But I refuse her offer of paid-for services (25R for completa).

It is now nearly 5pm. I am going to lose my discount for end-of-day chocolate-dipping session (see Euro´s excellent post on how to get money off at the last minute in 4x4). But I decide to dip myself in chocolate anyway.

Plus I needed a good shower before doing so. The run-down dive at 44 Buenos Aires (just joking guys!) provides all the facilities for this. Remember to pocket one of the little individually-wrapped toothbrush sets for the plane home and get the memories to linger. And if your plane crashes and you go to heaven may it be the place you were thinking of.

(The above trip to fantasy land is so good I wash it down with several very generous cuba libras: people who have been irritated by my details of bus routes will be delighted to hear I get a taxi back.)

But help me out guys - I have discovered the barmaid at 4x4 is only´married´ for the purposes of working behind the bar. Having got this far (admittedly not very far) what do I do next to bed her?*

*nothing against the lovelies on sale. Yasmin on this occasion was awesome. Just the challenge, and not having to lick every part of her body for half an hour to find the girl underneath (oh, what I put myself through . . . <g>)

Bubba Boy

06-20-07, 20:52

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Abzsafado

06-20-07, 23:56

Just got back from 4x4 again, still havent made it to VM. Yesterday was a wash out for me, fell out with both GFE's at the same time, one on the phone the other in the bar.

Anyway today I thought I would check out the downstairs fully clothed bar in 4x4. It was all those girls going down the pole the other day that caught my interest, I thought I would like to be where they were arriving. I got in before 4pm, R$20 entrada and I am sure the receptionist said that included a drink but when I left they charged me R$5 for the coke I had. In all honesty it was pretty crap, although quite a few came down the pole they didn't seem the same quality as the other day. After chatting to a couple of them I found out that I still had to pay the R$40 entrada if I wanted to take them upstairs, seemed a bit steep to me.

I got out of there and headed upstairs and got my robe and went tothe main boate. I didn't think it was as crowded with stunners as it was on monday, maybe they were all flat out already. It was still before 5 so I chose a tall blond and headed off to the cabine. It was a good choice, not quite the body of the last one but a damn good performer and a nice little bit of kissing and snuggling afterwards, she was purring like a pussycat. I love the way some of these girls do that. It makes you feel good, I hate the ones that bail as soon as youv'e shot the last drop. Anyway when I left there was a queue to get a cabine, I would say six couples at least. All in all a well timed visit. Total cost in the whiskeria R$25, total in the termas R$165 because I beat the 5pm deadline.

Saw some American dude with a black cap on on the way out, couldn't help but wondering if it was the same one as was mentioned in an earlier VM report.

I almost had a major fuck up when I left my new phone in the pocket of my robe, I was halfway down the street when I realised. Fortunately they let me back in to get it, could have washed away my memories.

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The Cane

06-21-07, 00:27

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Ezinho

06-21-07, 01:25

It doesn't really matter -- but a couple of her co-workers told me that Shayla was a lesbian. Nonetheless, she was great in the cabine.
Not that I want to start another argument on here, but isn't it safe to assume that the MAJORITY of GdPs are lesbians? Of course, I'm lumping the girls that consider themselves "bi-sexual" into the lesbian column.

But sometimes it's actually better if they are into women. For example, if you want to do a dupla at a terma, it's usually best to ask the girl if one of her girlfriends is working there. Unfortunately, their girlfriends aren't usually the best looking, but it's better to get two girls that are really into each other than two girls that aren't; makes the dupla much more enjoyable.

Lorenzo

06-21-07, 02:59

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Rio Bob

06-21-07, 03:25

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The Cane

06-21-07, 03:32

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The Cane

06-21-07, 03:47

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Abzsafado

06-21-07, 13:55

Not that I want to start another argument on here, but isn't it safe to assume that the MAJORITY of GdPs are lesbians? Of course, I'm lumping the girls that consider themselves "bi-sexual" into the lesbian column.

But sometimes it's actually better if they are into women. For example, if you want to do a dupla at a terma, it's usually best to ask the girl if one of her girlfriends is working there. Unfortunately, their girlfriends aren't usually the best looking, but it's better to get two girls that are really into each other than two girls that aren't; makes the dupla much more enjoyable.

Almost definitely, yes.

Bimbo Boy

06-21-07, 14:27

Almost definitely, yes.
I would disagree.
The vast majority of GDP's are normal girls with normal sex preferences. But, because of their jobs, and because of the environment pressure, they are pushed to extremes they wouldn't do otherwise, so that they perform anal and lesbianism. So one can do anal and lesbianism with the majority of working girls.
IMHO.
Regards. BB

Jesuscola

06-21-07, 16:48

No, the "vast majority" of girls are NOT lesbians. Though that rumor might keep more guys from fucking "marrying" them--when "marriage" essentially means that he pays her what she would have made working and she fucks him only when she feels like it, and she leaves as soon as she has a better option or just plain gets tired.

The vast majority of girls enter the business as normal girls. Some of them become romantically involved with women after a time because they get tired of dick-dick-dick from guys they're not really attracted to, and feel absolutely no emotional connection with whatsoever. So they either start seeing women because they're tired of the guys, or they'll pick up a Brazilian boyfriend whom they are actually, really attracted to and like.

But the majority of the girls do prefer to have a real relationship of some sort. As one girl put it, "It's better for my heart. Because everything that happens in here is a lie."

Abzsafado

06-21-07, 17:03

I would disagree.
The vast majority of GDP's are normal girls with normal sex preferences. But, because of their jobs, and because of the environment pressure, they are pushed to extremes they wouldn't do otherwise, so that they perform anal and lesbianism. So one can do anal and lesbianism with the majority of working girls.
IMHO.
Regards. BB

I am not so sure if they are pushed to extremes or not. I know quite a few non GDP's that are bisexual or like anal sex, trawl through some swingers sites and have a look. I have been told by a number of the girls that in the majority of cases they will fake the lesbian show and the client is none the wiser, the same way they fake everything else. I think the girls form quite close bonds with one or two other GDP's; they have common problems and sometimes they become girlfriends, not to entertain clients but by choice.
As Enzinho said when asking for a dupla in the termas ask if she has a girlfriend. But being into lesbian sex doesn't mean they consider themselves lesbians. This reminds me of the recent semi pro discussion, which I don't think was ever resolved. But I remember one comment from it; If you suck one cock does it make you gay? To which someone replied only if you enjoy it. So if the girl is really into it I would say she is probably bisexual.
I remember one from MC who loved eating pussy, (she wasn't faking it, we used to do it together), but wouldn't let the other girl near hers, strange!
One final oservation on this; Why is it when I arrange a dupla and ask her to get her girlfriend she is always uglier? Do you think if I asked an ugly one first she would find someone prettier? Or is it all a jealousy thing?

Boozer

06-21-07, 17:17

I am not so sure if they are pushed to extremes or not. I know quite a few non GDP's that are bisexual or like anal sex, trawl through some swingers sites and have a look. I have been told by a number of the girls that in the majority of cases they will fake the lesbian show and the client is none the wiser, the same way they fake everything else. I think the girls form quite close bonds with one or two other GDP's; they have common problems and sometimes they become girlfriends, not to entertain clients but by choice.
As Enzinho said when asking for a dupla in the termas ask if she has a girlfriend. But being into lesbian sex doesn't mean they consider themselves lesbians. This reminds me of the recent semi pro discussion, which I don't think was ever resolved. But I remember one comment from it; If you suck one cock does it make you gay? To which someone replied only if you enjoy it. So if the girl is really into it I would say she is probably bisexual.
I remember one from MC who loved eating pussy, (she wasn't faking it, we used to do it together), but wouldn't let the other girl near hers, strange!
One final oservation on this; Why is it when I arrange a dupla and ask her to get her girlfriend she is always uglier? Do you think if I asked an ugly one first she would find someone prettier? Or is it all a jealousy thing?

It may not be only a jealousy thing, I personally think the prettier one is often trying to help the other one get some business, and of course at the same time doesn't want to introduce her meal ticket to a more attractive option...

Kid Cisco

06-21-07, 17:33

It may not be only a jealousy thing, I personally think the prettier one is often trying to help the other one get some business, and of course at the same time doesn't want to introduce her meal ticket to a more attractive option...I was at 4x4 terma once and this one girl I did a few days early kept trying to get me to do a double with this one (very pretty) girl she kept looking at across the room.

When she left to go to the restroom the girl across the room begged me NOT to do a double with this other girl BECAUSE she says she is nuts and she really like her and she DON'T fake in the room like the other girls she is really into it and she likes girls BUT she for herself doesn't like girls.

I told her not to worry I am one of the few guys in the world that don't care for doubles and I don't and NEVER got anything out of paying my $$$ to watch two girls get off on each other I rather do them one on one LOL and have them get off on me.

Kid Cisco

Dodger Bulldog

06-21-07, 21:48

When she left to go to the restroom the girl across the room begged me NOT to do a double with this other girl BECAUSE she says she is nuts and she really like her and she DON'T fake in the room like the other girls she is really into it and she likes girls BUT she for herself doesn't like girls.

I told her not to worrySorry, KC, but after a while I can't make heads or tails out of which girl "is nuts" and which girl "don't fake" and which one is "really into it," (although all three comments may be referring to the same girl, or not), let alone who it is that "likes girls" and who "for herself" doesn't.

I can substitute either girl into almost any slot and it can make sense, although it would have totally different meanings.

The next time you need to use more than a dozen pronouns please just label them "girl one " and "girl two" (or maybe "Jane" and "Mary") to keep it simple. Actually, when one is writing about mutiple persons, it is a good rule for clear writing to never use more than two pronouns in a row without referring the reader back to the correct person.

I am sure that you understand what you are trying to say here, but before you post it is a good idea if you take the time to re-read your writing from the point of view of someone who knows nothing about what you intend to say.

I'm not try to be critical, but rather just trying to add a little constructive advice so that everyone can get your meaning. Hope this helps.

DB

Bimbo Boy

06-21-07, 23:05

I think the girls form quite close bonds with one or two other GDP's; they have common problems and sometimes they become girlfriends, not to entertain clients but by choice.
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One final observation on this; Why is it when I arrange a dupla and ask her to get her girlfriend she is always uglier? Do you think if I asked an ugly one first she would find someone prettier? Or is it all a jealousy thing?
From my own experience, the girls I went with, on the contrary, tried to distanciate themselves from the other girls. As I am looking for fresh girls and not hardened pros, I assume that this is a way for them to express that they are not really prostitutes.
One hypothesis for the second girl being ugly: maybe by choosing an ugly girl, not often taken, then the first girl gets some kind of "sales commission" from the ugly girl?

Jan 156

06-21-07, 23:56

Abzsafado

06-22-07, 00:09

Went to Luomo today first and probably the last time, more later.
I knew where it was I used to live upstairs from it. I was on the metro coming back from Botafogo so I jumped off at Siquiero Campos and decided on trying out L'Uomo for a change, silly move really because I had a R$60 discount voucher for MC in my pocket.
I got in just after 4pm, the receptionist told me the prices etc;, I asked how many girls were in, she guessed at thirty. I later counted 15, but all worth a try, better quality than currently in MC.
I got changed and went to the bar, hadn't even made it to the bar when a little girl I have had a bit of fun with in MC pounced on me. I wasn't really objecting to her sticking her tongue down my throat but I was hoping for something new. She told me she had left the other place to go to Centaurus but didn't like it so she was working here. She then asked if I still liked two girls I said of course so she ran off and got her friend. Oh lordy she was better looking. We spent maybe 15 minutes in the bar with the two of them jerking me off before we got to the cabine. They went for it big style, the new one (ex monte carlo too) brought her egg and vibrator and used the egg to good effect. Alot of fun was had by all, no need for KY with this woman. Once I had finished the new one kept going with her toy's and after a couple of minutes rest my old girl sucked me hard again. The buzzer went, the one that could almost talk answered the phone, but they kept going for another 10 minutes or so. At this point all was well in my seedy little world.
What pissed me off was not the girls but the management. When I got my bill it was for R$431, they discounted the entrance fee to R$25 for having two girls but then charged me R$200 for each of them, 140 for the girl and 60 for the cabine. I argued that I only had one cabine, but they wouldn't budge. So fuck them I won't be back, at least for a while. Partially my fault for not clarifying the price myself.
A couple of badly taken and edited snapshots, I have tried to hide recognizable features. One was a tattoo not a scar.
Is part of the debate on showing girls faces to do with people being too attached to some girls and not liking to face up to the reality that they will fuck anybody with the right money?

The Cane

06-22-07, 00:18

I told her not to worry I am one of the few guys in the world that don't care for doubles and I don't and NEVER got anything out of paying my $$$ to watch two girls get off on each other I rather do them one on one LOL and have them get off on me.Kid CiscoSeeing two girls together does absolutely nothing for me either. Why should I pay to watch them kiss and get off with each other when I can be the one getting off?

Kid Cisco

06-22-07, 00:40

Sorry, KC, but after a while I can't make heads or tails out of which girl "is nuts" and which girl "don't fake" and which one is "really into it," (although the all three comments may be referring to the same girl, or not), let alone who it is that "likes girls" and who doesn't.

I can substitute either girl into almost any slot and it can make sense, although it would have totally different meanings.

The next time you need to use more than a dozen pronouns please just label them "girl one " and "girl two" (or maybe "Jane" and "Mary") to keep it simple. Actually, when one is writing about more than mutliple persons, it is a good rule for clear writing to never use more than two pronouns in a row without referring the reader back to the correct person.

I am sure that you understand what you are trying to say here, but before you post it is a good idea if you take the time to re-read your writing from the point of view of someone who knows nothing about what you intend to say.

I'm not try to be critical, but rather just trying to add a little constructive advice so that everyone can get your meaning. Hope this helps.

DBDB, I see your point thats some good advice I can how it could confuse the reader and I take it as constructive advice.

I will try to clear it up Jane at 4x4 I did a few days early I had a good session with her so when I went back another girl name Mary that seen me go with Jane wanted me to do a double session with her and Jane.

BUT, when Mary went to the restroom Jane came over to tell me Mary was nuts and she doesn't FAKE the girl on girl action in the cabine and that Mary really like her and she added she (Jane) isn't into women but Mary keep on trying to get guys to do double session so she (Mary) can get next to her (Jane) and she (Mary) gets off on doing women!

Jane didn't and don't like women BUT she (Jane) fake the action in the room like most of the women that isn't into women.

Hopefully this will clear it up for you DB and anyone else that couldn't make it out, if anyone still have trouble feel free to PM me.

I have run into this many times before the Bi- women seems to chase after the ones that aren't into doing other women as a effort of trying to turn them out.

Who knows ? it seems that most women in Brazil are Bi or they could be just good actress lol.

Kid Cisco

Bravo

06-22-07, 00:58

Luomo's has had that pricing policy for a loooooong time. As far as I know, they are the only terma that charges double the room rate for a dupla. Its fucked up, but its nothing new.

Mangera

06-22-07, 04:51

As I entered the termas located on the rua carioca 40, I walked up the red stairway and entered the bar area, good Lord it seemed like someone turned off the lights. In fact, I could not see my friend and he gave me a jab to let me know he was standing right next to me( it did not help that my brasilian friend is mulato, we had a good laugh about that while drinking a skol). This place looks like a highschool prom setting in the 1970's somewhere in a poor mid american town. Entrance was 2r and a beer was 3r. I had been here before November of 2006. Many young garotas with good bundas, but damn, they have bellies too( I can't deal with that). But there is always one or two hidden gems, but unfortunately they were taken. It was 4:45 pm, things were slow, so we split after a couple of beers. Cost for play was 40r for 30 minutes. from what I do remember last November, they do have clean sheets, and showers in the cabina( I did a dupla with a mulata and a loira). Oh yea, and one garota told me they were open to 11pm.

We decided to take a wlk down the street to the #59. It consists of 4 floors and each floor has two rooms. One room at one end, and another at the other end. There were 3 or 4 cabinas lined up side by side in each room. There were on average 3 garotas per room. I did not see one goodlooking one in the bunch. It looked like a freaken factory with guys wearing little backpacks lined up(a train basically). The guy and garota would come out of the cabina, and the girl would get the next guy by the hand and they were off. Nasty! When I got to the top floor, I told my buddy I was walking down, could not wait for an elevator, I just wanted to get the hell out of there. It was not so much the garotas that turned me off, it was the line of guys. So we were out of there. By the way, its 1 real per minute, minimum 10r if you want to participate. Personally, I rather jerk off for free.

So we ended up going to Buenos Aires 85, which has been mentioned in this forum quite a few times. I have been here before a couple of times during all my visits to Rio. But it was always earlier in the day, not this late( around 6:15pm), and I think they close shop around 7 to 7:30pm. As I went up the 1st, 2nd, and then the 3rd floor, one particular dark haired blonde with a nice slim body, tight little ass with a great smile was outside the bar area having a drink. I began to chat, she introduced me to her mulata friend, which was a hot little firecracker. We chatted for about 10 minutes and we were off to the cabina for 30 minutes, and my friend was off with the other for the same amount of time. I ended up paying 30r for the 30 minutes, including the cabina. Fresh towel, and sheets looked pretty darn clean, and they have a shower all the way in the back. The cabinas are lined up side by side, and there is ac in this area.

We entered, she was very nice and pleasant with me. She began to give me a cbj which is not to my liking, and I knew I would have to offer her some more cash as an incentive for bbbj. But being that i am in a *****house with cabinas lined up side by side, I really was just interested in laying pipe and moving on.
We did multiple positions, even standing up on the cabina bed in the corner.
We finished and I went to take a shower. As I showered, there was another mulata taking a shower, I just walked in as if I were back in highschool taking a shower in the mens lockerroom. The garota I finished banging joined me, and asked if she could see me outside of the termas( *****house). I said "talvez". She asked if I liked duplas, I said it depends. She brought over a morena that was just as good looking as many gdps in higher end termas such as MC, Luomos, and Solarium. I honestly believe she could work along side that kind of talent. She had the body and the smile, she probably won't last long there, thats for sure. So it turns out that I agree she is hot, so they begin to make out. I dry up, get dressed, and I walk out to the bar area where my friend is waiting for me. I sit down with the gal I finished banging, and she informs me that if I wish to do a dupla with her and the friend she introduce me to, I could have 2 hrs of fun in my apartment or hotel for 60 Reals per garota, plus taxi. She said if I would mind if they use vibrators on each other. Who am I to say no( she had a huge smile when I said yes) :) I have there phone numbers, i told them I am off to Ilha Grande this weekend, will be back on Segunda, and we would talk then about a more definite plan.

As for my friend, he got bbbj without even asking, and his garota gave him access to her back door for an additional 10 r. As I walked out, I must say there were two other garotas of good quality material. But I know that when its all said and done, you are not going to get the same kind of service as other major termas. I am sure there are a few exceptions here and there.

After metro and omni bus and hr and a half later, I am sitting on a bar stool in Lord Jim Pub, in Ipanema having a bottled water with a non pro from minas. What a crazy city.