2007 Rio de Janeiro Reports

[MrK]

I'm heading down to Rio next week and look forward to hitting the termas and hanging out in Help. My favorite terma is Luomo. I have heard it has gone downhill but I will check it out and report on it.

My next favorite is Monte Carlo. The last time I was in Rio it was great. That was just 6 months ago.

I dislike Centaurus due to their money upfront policy. Still, I might visit just to see Shayla. Forum members, please help me. Is she at Centaurus now? Or at Monte Carlo? Anyone want to pm me with any contact info? I would really appreciate it.

I am also going to try 4X4 this time.

I will report as soon as I get back.

[Yankee7]

After leaving L'Uomo Shayla worked for several month at Help! before moving on to MC and eventually to Cenaurus. Next stop?

[Almotu]

I did find an excellent gal last night in Help.. we were banging until 7am.. 2nd time with her and was a thousand times better this time. 1st time I forgot to ask about BBBJ vs CBJ.. last night she asked why I did not repeat with her, I said it was the CBJ and that sex was kinda normal and not kinky.. well, she really made up for it last night.. and about 2pm when we got up.. she does stick to R$300 but it was way wortht it, this time.Do you by any chance have a few pics of this keeper to share? $R300 TLN is a bit steep but I have paid $R200 for 2hrs before so it is within my range.

[Dodger Bulldog]

Do I really have to mail my passport to my local consulate to get a travel visa (2 hour drive)? Also what about the next time I want to travel to brazil, is it the same process or is it easier? I was going in september but now I have planned to go in november. Thanks, I am sure this question has been asked a million times, maybe there should be a visa section.You either mail it in or take it there. And if you take it, you have to wait until the next day to get it back.

They will either issue a short term visa (90 days, I think) or five years, at their discretion. The cost is the same either way.

Tell them that you are going to Buzios to go golfing and fishing so that you have a better chance of getting the five year visa.

DB

[Oralover]

Hi Folks,

First time poster here and about to head out on my first trip to Brazil. This is a work trip with co-workers, so I am not sure how much mongering I will be able to get in, but I am taking 5 days to myself at the end in Rio de Janeiro.

I have a few questions I haven't found references to in past posts.

First, I am going to stay at the intercontinental hotel in São Conrado, west of Leblon. I am basically getting the hotel for free for the 5 nights, so that is why I am there.
Does anyone know anything about this area? Is there any mongering to be done close to it, or will it always be a cab ride to termas and clubs? Does anyone know if the hotel is freindly to female guests?

My last question is whether sexual stimulants like Viagra or Cialis can be bought in Rio de Janeiro without a prescription. Allot of the sex stores in Amsterdam sell them to you, I am wondering if it's the same here.

Thanks for the help, and thanks for all the info.

[Off Road]

Do you by any chance have a few pics of this keeper to share? $R300 TLN is a bit steep but I have paid $R200 for 2hrs before so it is within my range.
I am sorry, I do not have a photo of her.

[Off Road]

Do I really have to mail my passport to my local consulate to get a travel visa (2 hour drive)? Also what about the next time I want to travel to brazil, is it the same process or is it easier? I was going in september but now I have planned to go in november. Thanks, I am sure this question has been asked a million times, maybe there should be a visa section.
Check your local consulate website too. Los Angeles does not accecpt mail in.. But you can use an agency. I found that the agency was cheaper than the gasoline and time (1-2 hour drive for me too). I have used
http://www.mybrazilvisa.com/ the guy and gal there are wonderful. I overnignted, they turned in that day. You have to wait 10 working days, they pick it up and overnight back. They are in the office suite next to the consulate.

[Off Road]

Hi Folks,

First time poster here and about to head out on my first trip to Brazil. This is a work trip with co-workers, so I am not sure how much mongering I will be able to get in, but I am taking 5 days to myself at the end in Rio de Janeiro.

I have a few questions I haven't found references to in past posts.

First, I am going to stay at the intercontinental hotel in São Conrado, west of Leblon. I am basically getting the hotel for free for the 5 nights, so that is why I am there.
Does anyone know anything about this area? Is there any mongering to be done close to it, or will it always be a cab ride to termas and clubs? Does anyone know if the hotel is freindly to female guests?

My last question is whether sexual stimulants like Viagra or Cialis can be bought in Rio de Janeiro without a prescription. Allot of the sex stores in Amsterdam sell them to you, I am wondering if it's the same here.

Thanks for the help, and thanks for all the info.
You will probably want to get to Leblon, Ipanema, Copacabana, or Centro for your mongering.

You CAN purchase V or C without a prescription. I think a 4 pack of V 50MG was R$88 the other day at the discount pharmacy on Seguiro Campos near NS Copacabana.

[Mr Enternational]

You CAN purchase V or C without a prescription. I think a 4 pack of V 50MG was R$88 the other day at the discount pharmacy on Seguiro Campos near NS Copacabana.

The prices have really shot up. I remember when V in Brazil was 4 for about 60 reais (US$20) at the time. I checked at Farmalife on NS the other day and a 2 pack of C was 76 reais (US$38). I only buy to sell to my friends back home but that was well above my usual selling price. I usually buy in Ecuador for US$8 each.

[Delaware Guy]

I remember when V in Brazil was 4 for about 60 reais (US$20) at the time.Is there no generic version available? I recently returned from Costa Rica, where Pfizer Viagra goes for about $10 a pill, but you can get an Indian version for about $2. 50 or so. Same goes for Cialis. This would be good info to know before my trip in November.

[Pipe Layer99]

Yeah vitamin 'V' runs about US $10.85 each now. Can be purchased at numerous drug stores around copa for R$87 4 x 50mg tablets.


The prices have really shot up. I remember when V in Brazil was 4 for about 60 reais (US$20) at the time.

[Royalflush]

Hi Folks,

First time poster here and about to head out on my first trip to Brazil. This is a work trip with co-workers, so I am not sure how much mongering I will be able to get in, but I am taking 5 days to myself at the end in Rio de Janeiro.

I have a few questions I haven't found references to in past posts.

First, I am going to stay at the intercontinental hotel in São Conrado, west of Leblon. I am basically getting the hotel for free for the 5 nights, so that is why I am there.
Does anyone know anything about this area? Is there any mongering to be done close to it, or will it always be a cab ride to termas and clubs? Does anyone know if the hotel is freindly to female guests?

My last question is whether sexual stimulants like Viagra or Cialis can be bought in Rio de Janeiro without a prescription. Allot of the sex stores in Amsterdam sell them to you, I am wondering if it's the same here.

Thanks for the help, and thanks for all the info.

The hotel is girl friendly, but they will most likely charge roughly a 50R fee for a guest. I say most likely because that is their policy, but I've been able to sneak one or two past the security.

There really are no clubs within walking distance, but you could always get take out from one of the services. The forum has reviewed these ad nauseum.

Across from the hotel is the fashion mall, where you will see some hot women. It's worth walking around there to see the talent.

[Pipe Layer99]

Take a cab ride to Solarium (its back behind the lake).

Try beautiful Rafaela, Doris, or Anita (total freak with an appetite for sex in the bed). If you do get Doris - white, short blonde hair, with a nice azz, tell her Donnie said hello. (She pinched me on the arm the other day at the beach as I walked right past her).


Hi Folks,
First time poster here and about to head out on my first trip to Brazil. This is a work trip with co-workers, so I am not sure how much mongering I will be able to get in, but I am taking 5 days to myself at the end in Rio de Janeiro.
......Thanks for the help, and thanks for all the info.

[Mangera]

Take a cab ride to Solarium (its back behind the lake).

Try beautiful Rafaela, Doris, or Anita (total freak with an appetite for sex in the bed). If you do get Doris - white, short blonde hair, with a nice azz, tell her Donnie said hello. (She pinched me on the arm the other day at the beach as I walked right past her).
Try them all :)

[Tungurahua]

As usual I was just dinking around on the comp and came across the Rocinha favela on Google Earth. It instantly clicked "Hey, I wonder if ..." and sure enough there it was. Not sure if this has been done before but thought I would share the image for those curious of the landscape.

[Bravo]

Somebody! Anybody! Please help, I saw this girl's video on youtube, talk about an ass! I am going back to Rio in 3 weeks and just have to find her. If anyone on the board knows what terma she works in, please PM me. I promise to post all pics upon my return to show my gratitude.

Her name om the film is Luana

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSUWR_qcdCo

[Mr Enternational]

Somebody! Anybody! Please help, I saw this girl's video on youtube, talk about an ass! I am going back to Rio in 3 weeks and just have to find her. If anyone on the board knows what terma she works in, please PM me. I promise to post all pics upon my return to show my gratitude.

Her name om the film is Luana

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSUWR_qcdCo

Man look at the girl on that ass! Bravo please pass her to me when you finish. This is a case when I will gladly do sloppy seconds.

[Sperto]

Somebody! Anybody! Please help, I saw this girl's video on youtube, talk about an ass! I am going back to Rio in 3 weeks and just have to find her. If anyone on the board knows what terma she works in, please PM me. I promise to post all pics upon my return to show my gratitude.
Her name om the film is Luana http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSUWR_qcdCo
That was an enormous ass... :p
Why do you think she's a Rio girl working in a terma?
I guess the video is made somewhere up north. Maybe Bahia? My wild guess is Trancoso.

[Trippleecks]

Sorry to all of you that like that kind of ass but for all of the guys that like em small, round, and tight.. that ass is disgusting. …

[El Greco]

Solarium

Good choice.

It is on Rua (street) JJ Seambre on the opposite side of Lagoa (lake) with regard to Copacabana.

Very small street with some bars too where you can hang out after your relax and maybe score a local beauty.

Try their suite with the jacuzzi. You are gonna love it.

Have fun

El Greco

[George90]

Sorry to all of you that like that kind of ass but for all of the guys that like em small, round, and tight.. that ass is disgusting. …

To each his own. Every man has his own taste in ass, breast, face, etc. There is no need to pass judgement.

To me, Luana's ass is AWESOME!!!!! And it is more than just her ass that makes her awesome. It is the combination of her slim waist, flat stomach, and wide hips! MAN!! I have not seen a waist-to-hips flare like hers in a LOOOOONNGG time!!!!

I know there a quite a few Brazilian women shaped like that. On occasion I have seen them just walking around. But HER shape AND being available???? ... That would be heaven!

[Bravo]

That was an enormous ass... :p
Why do you think she's a Rio girl working in a terma?
I guess the video is made somewhere up north. Maybe Bahia? My wild guess is Trancoso.

I am assuming she is a terma girl because I have never seen her in Copa (Help, MP or the beach) I am sure she is a Rio girl because she did a threesome and the other girl in the movie, works at 4x4.

[Bravo]

Sorry to all of you that like that kind of ass but for all of the guys that like em small, round, and tight.. that ass is disgusting. …

Come on Nodd, you know the monger code! "To each their own" I like the botties big and round, thats why I could never go to thailand. To me, all the thai women are shaped like 10 year old boys,but thier are a shit load of guys who find that look attractive. "To each their own"

[Ejam06]

She was working at terma 502 back in March.

[Sperto]

I am assuming she is a terma girl because I have never seen her in Copa (Help, MP or the beach) I am sure she is a Rio girl because she did a threesome and the other girl in the movie, works at 4x4.
My preference is small tight asses (Nodd_N-style), but this ass was quite interesting indeed.

Made me remember a Friday night at a local forró-place, in a small village in the middle of the amazon when I ended up with two giant-non-pro-asses, who took the advantage of me being drunk. The pousada-owner (a very religious woman) called the PMs who interrupted my three-some, with shotguns. When the PMs saw the scared half-naked big-asses fleeing my room they just laughed so hard that they almost dropped their guns. They let me go. The next day everybody in the village pointed fingers at me and laughed out load. "Save Willy!"

[Trick Williams]

Somebody! Anybody! Please help, I saw this girl's video on youtube, talk about an ass! I am going back to Rio in 3 weeks and just have to find her. If anyone on the board knows what terma she works in, please PM me. I promise to post all pics upon my return to show my gratitude.

Her name om the film is Luana

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSUWR_qcdCo

That movie you posted was from Justin Slayer's Big Booty Revenge 3 and yes Luana's ass is out of this world.

[Pipe Layer99]

Gents,
I banged a big bunda girl like that at 4x4 last week. Her name is Aneta. To locate her just fo to 4x4, look for a black haired honey witha large ass ;-))

I usually don't like 'em that big, but I wanted to hit one for the experience. It was very enjoyable. Good girl who aimed to please. I will post her pics this week. DD


Somebody! Anybody! Please help, I saw this girl's video on youtube, talk about an ass! I am going back to Rio in 3 weeks and just have to find her. If anyone on the board knows what terma she works in, please PM me. I promise to post all pics upon my return to show my gratitude.

Her name om the film is Luana

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSUWR_qcdCo

[Twohands]

beijo-me them o rio

notes from my first trip to paradise

147 days ‘til i’m there again. these memories i share and dedicate to those whose stories encouraged me to make the journey to this magical, sun-kissed place we all know so well. herewith are my reflections from february 2006 (better late than never, huh? )

this one’s for you fellas! enjoy. i certainly did re-living it. p.s. , pictures to follow.

part i

god was good. especially to mari. and tonight, this beautifully-curved beauty with the bronze glow and that twinkle in those eyes, is giving thanks to him. bless her soul. she knows him. and samba! with wild abandon, rthymicly she shook and gyrated the most incredible ass. i gave thanks to him too. goddaammn! for hers was an ass that cursed gravity, i figured it appropriate. i was hypnotized. what is this? jeans thistight that barely reached the bottom of two perfect dimples crowning each golden globe? nao. it can’t be. sexy as a verb? i watched in a trance. do it baby

she knew she was hot; tan lines seductively dipped around her tiny waist forming a pyramid in the back, disappearing in the front somewhere below her navel piercing. i only knew i wanted to move with her. approaching from behind, i licked my index finger and touched her shoulder. she turned, i jumped back frantically shaking my finger as if scolded by her heat. in my broken portuguese i presented my injury and told her she owes me now cause i’ve been burned.. she laughed and teasingly told me she’s got ways to make it all better. without missing a beat, she took my finger and guided it into her soothing mouth, "gostoso".

i leaned in close to whisper my name and before i could finish she said in perfect english thru a sheepish grin – "i know your name th. i’m mari". with that she spun around, clasped my hand, sealing it to her heart with a kiss and said, "come have a caiprinha with me. "

cue jay-z – big pimpin’- spendin’ cheese.

it was only my second night of 12 in rio de janeiro. as is usually the case and reflecting what has become my preference now, i came to paradise alone. leaving cold and windy nyc 4860 miles north of this rio institution known as club help.

sure, i did my research diligently; reading bubba’s guide and the advice of several friends and websites. i’m nearly fluent in spanish and wanted to at least know the basics of port. , so i bought books and cds and studied daily. i bought a dvd which spoke of vacations for single men. jake steed has an entire series on "the girls from copa", latineuro has pix of the hotties and even pharrell said he and snoop’s video "beautiful" is nothing compared to the real thing. all were on point with advice, tips, customs and experiences.

that said, can anything or anyone truly prepare you for the sheer quality, quantity and fluid sexuality of the women? or their breathtaking and sensuous playground where an ocean’s eternal tides caress gentle sand against lush, rolling mountains? it’s sensory overload! copa! ipa! barra! they’re everywhere! frolicking, tanning, swimming, strutting and kicking serious butt sem hands! using a net, sand and balls. all while wearing, ("carrying") two medium sized post-its, (be/k/a fio dental).

let me be clear – i travel extensively and frequent some hot spots in and around ny and paris; and each year the dominican republic will add another stamp to my passport, but i’ve never seen a concentration of beautiful women that could rival rio’s. and tonight club helpee is ground zero.

the night before meeting mari, i made my maiden voyage to club help and while (over) indulging in liquid sunshine called caiprihna, i wandered the club in awe of god’s gift to the male libido and ego. in every shade and height they came in groups seeking gringos and their green sunshine. feeling like denzel as i passed yet another stunner, i reached the rear, where i heard a familiar voice call my first and last name in an i can’t believe you’re here tone. i turned to see an old friend who told me earlier that he couldn’t make the trip as he just made partner at his law firm and his caseload was murder.

we kicked it for a little bit on what turned out to be his last night. he introduced me to his two friends who came down from chicago with him. the four of us shared a few rays of sunshine and i immediately began to take note of the incredibly gorgeous parade of garotas circling me. their looks aroused me with their wicked smiles and hungry eyes whispering "we know you’re fresh meat". i played it up for all it was worth.

when an extraordinarily fine specimen strutted by licking her lips, i would return their glares in kind before turning to my boys with an exaggerated "dammmmn! ! ". many of the girls would stop and giggle. before long there were maybe 8 stunning women near me asking the famous trilogy (what’s your name? where ya from? first time down? ). several starting mocking me. when yet another stunner sauntered by, in unison they looked my way and shouted "daaammn"! along with me. these girls had great personalities. my flirting went into hyper-speed and – wouldn’t you know it, one became jealous of the attention given to other chicks. grabbing my hand, she pulled me to the dance floor.

any true dancer would understand and agree with me as i proudly admit that i don’t just dance for the sake of movement, i feel the music, my movements are not just of the body, but from the soul. and as is the case on any other dance floor anywhere in the world, once i get a woman on the floor – consider her seduced! tonight was definitely no exception. i spun around and noticed the area where i was standing now loaded with chicas and all their eyes (and smiles) were on me. my dancing partner noticed and before i could return eye contact with a few of the cuties, she grabbed the back of my neck and passionately kissed me. ok. works for me.

she told me her name was flavia and she wanted to leave with me. now. i told her it was my first night and i could use a little more helpee. she smiled and said "i wait for you here. " i left and made my way through the club – stopping for one more caiprihna in the process. apparently flavia put a "grab my ass" sign on my back, ‘cause everywhere i went it was open season on the culo! alas, by now it was close to 4:30am – i was jet-lagged and feeling as if the best pussy opportunities for me tonight had already left with outro compania. so me and flavia made our way to my apartment.

let me say this about flavia – that girl has skills! my toes were sufficiently curled and she took my wand and wad like the pro she is. we woke around 11:30am and she was more than ready for round two. i flipped her over after she gave a lengthy and animated blow then rim job. she’s got a great body – ass is tight and round, stomach flat and six-pack is toned. and although i’m no fan of implants, hers were not so hard as to give the impression you’re sucking on plastic fruit from granny’s dining table.

while pounding away and slapping her bulbous ass, flavia insisted thru her moans that i fuck her in that now red ass. she didn’t have to say it twice. i don’t necessarily have a sweet tooth when it comes to the hershey highway –i can take it but prefer to leave it. tight, wet pussy beats a shitty, smelly ass any day in my book. that said, flavia’s gyrations and her persistent dirty talk, made it all the more pleasurable. she taunted, saying "fuck my ass, ooh, fuck my ass harder – you know you like fucking my ass. " ten minutes of serious pounding on her back door and i was done.

her back seemed like a good landing spot for incoming semen, but she turnred over removed the condom and greedily sucked each thrust of cum down her throat, taking due care to remove any that tried to escape to her chin with her fingers. as i watched quite satisfied and now thoroughly impressed with her enthusiasm, she playfully stretched a rope of cum and snapped it back in her mouth. she gave the wand another kiss and squeeze and tipped-towed to the toilet. not sure if she swallowed, but she sure gave a good visual interpretation of the act.

as she showered, i played snoop/pharrell’s "beautiful" on my ipod and smiled as she screamed from the shower, "i love this song –whooo"! bem. i glanced toward the glass-enclosed shower and admired her silhouette (and her syncopated finger snapping) with a smile and immediately realized how dope this apartment truly was. rented through rioapartments.com at a rate of $60/per night which included an airport pickup and dropoff, it had everything: an open, airy living space, modern furniture and appliances in a great location on av. nossa sr. next to a police station and very near to arpoador and ipanema. my only complaint was the lousy view overlooking the rear of apartment houses on 3 sides. the only view of the sky was straight up. then and there as i looked out on these drab, weathered buildings with clothes precariously blowing on lines attached to windows whose frames were formed with metal security bars, i promised myself next time my apartment had to overlook oceano atlantico.

oh well. i gathered my post-orgasmic thoughts and realized yet again that life was indeed good. it’s mid-february and i’m standing on a balcony on a natural high with a hottie in a thong kissing the back of my neck as she attempts to shield herself from nosy eyes.

we were dressed and out within the hour and as we walked thru copa, she gave me a tour pointing out the sights of her stumping ground with girlish pride. eventually our walk led us to her favorite churrascaria further down av. nossa sr. after thoroughly enjoying the food offered i understand why. the beef was butter tender, the salad fresh and crisp. service came with smiles. i could get used to this

after lunch, she gave me her number and i gave her $75 bucks. she wanted cab fare and i told her she just ate it. she laughed and bit my lip as she kissed me. cute.

it was only 2:30 in the afternoon and yet i was more than ready for today’s first caiprihna. they are that good. the sun was blazing so i went shirtless to the beach with my camera, taking in not only the blazing sun but all that this incredibly beautiful ciudade has to offer. and it is plenty. on one side i admired the determination of the first faveladors and their innovative response to their housing needs which began on the side of mountains above the crowded, bus-clogged streets of copa. behind apartment and hotel towers high in the sky, christ extended his majestic, comforting arms to welcome me.

‘brigado! !

after walking along the shore of the beach, my feet and legs at ease relishing the cool, relaxing waves, i paid my first visit to the infamous meia pataca. it didn’t disappoint. maybe due to the scorching temps. and high humidity, i don’t know, but it was packed! sitting alone at a table, i ordered a caiprihna and surveyed the crowd. similar to the you. and. , it was as if mp had someone representing every country speaking multiple languages.

the garotas only knew one language and its devious yet sexy whisper radiated through their long smoldering glances my way. a cutie began slowly waving and i responded with a "oi" while raising my glass. that’s all she needed to hear. she immediately stood revealing a texas-sized ass that i wouldn’t tap at gunpoint. turning towards me i noticed her gut matched the ass, roll for roll. she had a beautiful face, but she’s much too big for me. but, i’m a gentlemen, so she sat and i ordered her a choppe and pizza.

while chatting her up, i caught the gaze of world-famous alexandria (or as her friends affectionately call this diminutive beauty, "mini-me"). slowly tracing the outline of her lips with her tongue, she definitely sparked my curiosity, so i called her over – much to the dismay of azz-illa. "como vai"?

after i pulled out her chair and watched her wickedly sexy 4’2" frame take her seat, i rapidly said. "twohands" "new york" "yes, 1st time down", all while gesturing as though i had a microphone and she was interviewing me. she laughed. double-booty glared. the pizza arrived and i took one bite and hated it. it’s a new york thing. i offered it to the ladies and they seemed to enjoy it.

mini-me introduced me to her friends who came over to meet the newbi. a few i recalled from the night before – as they began mocking my dance movements. i stood and demonstrated how it’s done. excusing myself i ran to the restroom and quickly realized there was even hotter babes in the back! as i passed, they called out to me and i blew them kisses. on my way back outside, i stopped and asked why they were in here. "[/i]it’s too hot[/i]". i told ‘em it was their "sexy" that’s made ‘em hot, not the weather.

as i returned to my table, i glanced behind to see their lovely faces again. this time they were following behind me nearly spilling drinks as they squeezed incredible asses in a weaving route thru the crowd. stopping along the way to double kiss various tourists and other gdps too busy with clients to care. a waiter carried their garaffe of sangria with ease, whistling along the way.

so now i’ve got six babes at my table – four of them smoking hot. i could have used some help, but my boy returned to the states today, so i was solo. but i held my own. i met a dude from ny on the plane down yesterday. he stopped by the table to say "have fun" as he was returning after only 2 days. he did introduce me to a brotha from london – who’s now a good friend. this london bloke was with a cutie that i met last night in help. i couldn’t recall her name, but she stated in hush tones and hurt eyes "camila, th". she then slipped her number in my hands with a note that stated "i want you so much. " somebody pinch me.

"london" and i flirted and hung out for a few hours with the girls, ordering way too many caiprihnas and appetizers. someone near the rear began playing music on an ipod player not unlike mine back at the apartment. and i thought "what a brilliant idea". that’s what this place needed! i walked over and made an introduction. eventually we pulled all our tables together which now included maybe 15 stunning women and four men. it was a good look.

and a small world. camilla rooms with minime and another two stunners whom she introduced me to. one, katie, was just drop-dead gorgeous with flawless skin and a stunning smile. her sundress clung to the juiciest of asses. unfortunately, her beauty wasn’t the only thing that made her stand out. babygirl had a propensity to frown. or pout. the pouting was sexy, so it was tolerable. the chain smoking was not. but i knew i was gonna have to make a compromise if i wanted to recreate all the mental visions of me drilling her for the next few hours.

alas, by 10:00pm, it was time to head back to the apartment. a little rest is definitely required if i’m to be in any condition for further debauchery. the restaurant was closing and i knew there’d be another opportunity to flirt at ta later that evening. it was then that i did (yet again) something that i couldn’t imagine doing here in nyc. i turned down offers of untold kinky activities in favor of a nap! my body demanded it and after the workout flavia and the caiprihnas put me through today, i needed it.

i double-kissed the cuties, gave high-fives to my co-pilots and headed to the crib. along the way i became instantly depressed. rio’s streets at night are a troubling sight to behold. everywhere i looked children slept on copa’s iconic black and white wavy pavement, cardboard boxes were used as blankets. another 20 or 30 were out selling tiny gum packets or offering to shine my sandals. other kids were out and about suggestively offering themselves while a few aggressively approached gringos asking for money or food. some simply extending listless, upturned hands. their eyes spoke the truths their age tried hard to deny.

as americans, we are indeed privileged – we do not know poverty. perhaps sometimes we’ve been low and needed to stretch a dollar ‘til the next payday, but we know nothing of desperation poverty – poverty without safety nets or a government that is willing and/or able to adequately and thoroughly address the root issues that not only cause but plays a role in sustaining such horrid inequities.

years ago i adopted a few basic rules when traveling internationally: i will try to always leave a place better than i find it; i will seek to establish a connection to humanity regardless of socio-economic status; and the most important to me. i will give to those who have not.

this trip, i came with an extra suitcase loaded with (slightly) used linen shirts, 30+ nyc t-shirts, shorts and yankees caps, and various other trinkets. when leaving my apartment or hotel, i always take spare change and when i leave restaurants any food i didn’t finish at the table, is wrapped and given to someone on the street.

this night there was no leftover food, but i did give the change in my pocket with a promise to see them tomorrow for pix and to give out a few t-shirts. the smiles on their little faces made my night. and i suppose that’s the best part of giving. it just makes you feel good! i call it "karma equity". it’s what’s kept me safe and indeed blessed so far.

i’ve met fellow travelers along the way that marvel at how i’m comfortable walking around with a $1, 700 nikon camera while wearing designer clothes and watches, a gold chain on my neck and wrist and a diamond in my ear. never has anyone threatened or attempted to steal anything from me. it’s really quite simple, actually. in order to travel solo safely, relax, meet the locals, buy them a beer, or give the poor kids your spare change. watch your back of course, but don’t act paranoid and skeptical. they may be poor, but i guarantee all of them aren’t criminals. i refuse to accept that argument.

i’m from the mean streets of detroit and have seen plenty of shady characters in my day. i’d like to think perhaps to some degree i’ve acquired a certain street sense that certainly comes in handy in rio. the same rules apply regardless of latitude and longitude. a genuine curiosity of other cultures has also served me well. many a day i’ve spent talking with them and taking their photos which become gifts on future visits. i keep a journal and attempt to remember their names. there is safety in numbers, indeed.

case in point came from above this evening. although only my second night, 3 kids ran up to me calling my name and one offered to walk me to my apartment under his umbrella – keeping me and my camera dry as a light rain began to fall. i thanked him and gave him a crisp $5. 00 – it was well earned for now the rain came via buckets!

i thought of those kids a few hours later as i stood with mari on help’s balcony watching a few more sleeping and hanging around outside of bob’s. after grabbing another round of caiprihnas i suggested we step outside for much-needed fresh air – does everybody smoke in rio? please understand since 2002 here in nyc.thank god – smoking is no longer permitted in bars, restaurants and nightclubs. after 4 years of smoke-free bliss while out on the town, my lungs need a few days to adjust to such a brutal onslaught.

two hours later, i was out of breath. but under much more favorable conditions. breathing heavily as sweat dripped down my face unto her glistening body, i tilted my head and noted the fan on full-blast, beforing closing my eyes again, lost in the fog of lust. besides, nothing could relieve the heat generating on this bed on this sweltering night. mari dug her nails into my ass driving me to charge faster, deeper, harder. only to shriek and retreat when her demands were eagerly met. in the silence of the night, the dirty sounds of passions released echoed. her warm nectar gushed from her, oozing between our legs with each trust from me above and rotations from her below.

she lifted her torso and introduced her warm tongue to my waiting mouth as her right hand frantically rubbed her engorged pink clitoris. "ai, aiiii. gostoso muito" i knew she was close as her body fell limp, her eyes rolled back as she tilted her head, her wet golden hair stuck to her neck and covered her mouth. with two hands she now squeezed my ass and screamed as i rested completely within her enjoying the massage of her powerful vaginal contractions. i pushed her hair away from her lips and in between heavy breaths i kissed her deeply. she sighed, flipped me over and rode me home. i grabbed her erect nipples, tweaking them as she bit her finger, rising and lowering herself unto me in a frantic rotation that recalled movements witnessed tonight on that dance floor at that club called help. i grabbed her ass and slammed her down faster, she leaned in close to me and stuck her tongue in my ear.

i was nearly there and felt it only natural to announce my arrival. oh shit! i was now completely incapable of movements as i felt each contraction ooze back down my wand thru the condom. mari continued to rotate those hips as i used her ass for support, shaking beneath her. collapsing unto me i felt her heart racing with mine, those muscles putting in ot to ensure every last drop cums. it was nasty. and i loved every minute of it. : the

- 2h

to be continued.

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[Bubba Boy]

Nice, extremely well written report and excellent taste in women.

[It Travel]

Nice, extremely well written report and excellent taste in women.


i can see the bar MP.. in your pics, been there many times, the food for Bazil is so so, but teens are good...

let us see some pink and avoit tourist shots... otherwise the report is great!

I agree with Bubba Boy...

IT

[Twohands]

Nice, extremely well written report and excellent taste in women.Thank YOU, Sir - your insights and wisdom definitely provided me with the tools needed to hit 'em with both hands.

[Twohands]

i can see the bar MP.. in your pics, been there many times, the food for Bazil is so so, but teens are good...

let us see some pink and avoit tourist shots... otherwise the report is great!

I agree with Bubba Boy...

ITPatience meu amigo. 'Brigado. Trust me, there's more to come!

[George90]

Fantastic report, Twohands! Thanks for sharing.

[Professor 1]

Beijo-me them O Rio

Notes from my first trip to Paradise

Watch your back of course, but don’t act paranoid and skeptical. They may be poor, but I guarantee all of them aren’t criminals. I refuse to accept that argument.This IS an outstanding report. I last visited Rio--stayed at the Hotel Aproador--and this report brought back memories with amazing accuracy.

[Mr Enternational]

She was working at terma 502 back in March.


Now that was fucking service for you. Damn Ejam you must be a detective.

[Ezinho]

If you know very fine Brazil, answer me please.

Hi I'd like to rach Brazil but I don't like a very known town. If the town is not a good town or it is a bad town it is ok, for me the best thing I am looking is:

a no touristic town
easiness in finding beautiful girls pro and no pro (regular girls)
cheap and inexpensive sex

In Brazil is there above-mentioned town? Or will it be in my thoughts only?

I thank you for some info
Yeah, check out the São Luís thread for more info. It meets all three of your requirements.

If you can't get laid for free in São Luís, you're better off finding a new hobby; start a bottlecap collection or something.

[Sperto]

Ok thanks for your sggestion but what is the age to get laid for free in São Luís? ;)
Well, just as anywhere. The less attractive ones have to expect less. If you are 50+ with a big beer-belly you shouldn't expect to get laid by 20 years non-pro's. I'm sure there are middleaged non-pro's who wouldn't mind an older gringo.

There are many cities in this giant country that fulfills your requirements. São Luís is one of them.

If you look for 40+ non-pro's there is a forró place in São Luís where practically all women are 40+. I might have mentioned it in the São Luís thread several years ago. It's a non-miss if you don't escape the place as I did.

[Jesuscola]

what happens when a raid happens? do clients get arrested? girls? management? are the clients allowed to get their stuff out of the lockers? does everybody run?first off, "raids" are very rare. the reason given is always "**** girls, " and they never find any. essentially, everyone in the house is rounded up into the same room--the bar. if a girl and a guy are in a cabine, well, it's session over.

customers are allowed to leave--after paying their bill. brazilians are given no trouble whatsoever. gringoes may be asked for valid i. the..-or, in lieu of that, a bribe (i have seen this happen, explicitly). a photocopy of your passport will suffice for valid i. the. , unless they really want to try to break your balls, at which point they will hold you until you can have your passport retrieved from your hotel or apartment. they can't do anything but hold you for a few hours until your i. the. is proven. that is all, and even that is very rare. a fine for a gringo without i. the. is just a happy bonus. they're mainly just shaking down the terma owners.

management is never arrested. girls are sometimes taken, briefly, off premises until their age and i. the. can be verified. many times, the girls will return to work before the end of the night--unless the terma closes for the night, and even then, it will almost always be open again the next day.

in short, there is almost never anything serious about them. they appear very serious--machine gun toting polícia from the draco unit--but they rarely ever are.

4x4 was hit like this--with the "**** girls" charge--just over 2 years ago, along with another casa on the same night. then centaurus was hit, then bononia, then praia 400. it happens every so often.

jc

[Rio Joe]

Rio, Aug 23-Sept 5.

Part 1: Yellow Fever Fiasco.

Got a NY-Rio round-trip (with a flight change in Panama) for $680 on Copa Airlines (based in Panama, despite name) through ABS Travel.

When I called Copa to confirm that everything was legit (I'd never used ABS Travel before), the woman verified my ticket, then "reminded me" that Brazil required passengers coming from Panama to be vaccinated for yellow fever. News to me. But nao problema. I still had about a week and a half till the trip. "Just as long as you get vaccinated at least 10 days before entering Brazil," she said. I did a quick calculation. My trip was in NINE days. She essentially said (in a nice, calm way, compared to the state of panic she was inducing in me) that I was shit out of luck. I thanked her, hung up, and tried to think of a solution. Ultimately, I contacted Embratel, Brazil's tourism agency. They said that visitors coming from Panama don't need a yellow-fever vaccination. They even told me that other Copa passengers have called them about this, prompting Embratel to send several letters to the airline asking them to get their facts straight.

Copa's not solely to blame here, though. The Brazilian embassy's website contradicts (mais ou menos) Embratel, saying that applicants for visas who've been to Panama within the last 90 days need a yellow-fever immunization certificate. (http://www.brasilemb.org/consulado/consular_visa_tourism.shtml)
Maybe this just applies to visa applicants, as opposed to actual travelers. But that's kind of weird, isn't it? Not that I'm complaining—I got to Rio without a hitch.

Well, there was one tiny hitch. When I checked in at JFK for my flight to Panama/Rio, the very cute girl who checked my bags told me that my Brazilian visa had expired. No, I told her politely. It was good until next February. She said that it was only valid for 90 days from when it was issued in 2003. Again, it wasn't entirely her fault. The visa, stamped into the middle of my passport (do other countries provide stand-alone visas?), was quite faded. As many of you know, the visa does indeed refer to "90 days"—the deadline for making your first visit to Brazil after getting the visa. (It's also how long you can stay in the country without an official extension, but I don't think that's mentioned in the visa.) I tried to explain to her that the visa was good for five years. She also tried to charge me more for having an overweight suitcase, until her colleague explained to her that Brazil allows heavier bags.

She let me through, only to head me off again as I was about to give my luggage to the separate security station that x-rays your bags before they're stowed. She took my passport, and told security to keep my luggage on the side for now. I gave her another brief review of Brazilian visa policy. Finally, she got a supervisor on the phone who backed me up and I journeyed onto Paradise without further complication. The girl, by the way, told me she plans on becoming an immigration lawyer.

Next up: Andrea, my GDP kinda-sorta mais-ou-menos quase namorada from Help; and her craving for suco de buceta (oh, and her pink puppy)

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[Twohands]

beijo-me them o rio

notes from my first trip to paradise

part ii

the captain has turned on the ‘fasten seat belt’ sign. please ensure that your seatback tables are in their locked and upright positions. we’ll be landing at jfk shortly.

sunrise over the amazon was something to behold. a sight for sore eyes to see. at least that’s what i’ve heard. but since the sun cruelly refused my desperate plea to reverse its course and give me "once upon a kiss in rio", i didn’t wanna see it. could not have cared less. fuck-a-sun! but now, thanks to chatty kathy from "just outside toronto". i’m hearing awwl aboodit. it wus gor-jusss. !

shoot me now.

as this aural torturess continued on.excitedly!. into this 9th and. thank the lord – final 1/2 hour of our sao paolo-nyc flight, selfishly oblivious to my disinterest, i turned my head and gazed out the window. call me not rude for i discovered miles ago that motor-mouth.just off my left shoulder, seeks not an audience, but rather a prisoner. so fuck her too!

twenty-thousand feet below me, the almighty north atlantic rippled. its aqua blue surface freckled with bobbing shards of white ice as far as the eye could see. i sighed. my body. my spirit. needed just 20 minutes more. not to sleep. but to dream. of rio and beaches and her. dancing at help. that night. and, ahhh yes, that ass.

cabin lights popped to life in sync as the sounds of those seatback tables taking their positions reverberated through the air over a den of activity in the near distance. kathryn "the grate" thankfully had another ear to chew off as 28d on her left side, stretched and yawned his way to consciousness. "well, good morn’n sunshine! sleep well. eh? "

i put my head to rest on a tiny cold pillow pressed hard against the shuttered window failing in my attempt to suppress a broad smirk which curled my mouth. "welcome back to the party, buddy! "

finally me and my memories are alone. accompanied only by my melancholy dreams.

it seemed like only last night i was assuring mari that my camera is her friend. relax. "if you wanna take my pix. do it right". "hold the camera with two hands. left for support and right for function". sounding like my first photography teacher in 8th grade, i stood behind her pressing my aroused manhood hard between the thighs of the sexiest of pupils. "see, like this. it’s the only way to shoot".

she swiveled around and faced me with a look of utter joy as enlightenment filled her eyes. "i like you, baby. " "gostoso muito. " she kissed my chest and i grabbed my camera and playfully pushed her nude body to the bed, that right "function" hand eagerly going to work.

"safado! mu-ito bonito sa-fado. "

deals were kept that night. as agreed and promised, we could have full creative license to shoot each other. it was highly erotic. from her bra and impossibly tiny thong to my hanes, clothes slowly peeled away. soon nothing remained. just bodies seeking a union. i took a pix and she would counter with two. cheater! we showered together. i could feel her touching me from behind, kissing my back as the warm water splashed on our bodies. * god i wish i could have stayed just one more night.

"safaado. "

that voice. sexy and now haunting was familiar. i cracked then fully opened my eyes and recognized the fan churning above my head. my head was pounding! i turned to my right and there she was. ! smelling sweet as a rose and still damp from an apparent shower, with my camera in one hand, she grabbed a pillow and playfully rubbed it over my face.

"twohands. muito safado. muito. muito bonito safado", she continued. mari! you’re here. i’m heeerre! "yes, baby. but not for long. i have to go to work. safado". back in love with the beautiful sun that brightened the room, i grabbed her and pulled her towel-wrapped body on top of mine. she playfully screamed, our camera rolled on the bed. resting on my chest. chin on her hands, she admitted reviewing evidence of many beautiful women in addition to herself captured thru an electronic eye. yeah? and? so?

safado. "what is safado"? i didn’t get an answer. but i did get a wake-up call. "i have to go to work baaaby", she whined. as i happily slid across the floor to the bathroom, i inquired as to where she worked. "helpee". "but today i go to hotel room. " damn. i quickly fixed my face in the mirror as i noisily relieved myself. aaaaaah. this is business, remember? a transaction based on fantasies. feeling mine were more than met, i regrouped and made a beeline for the safe.

as she inquisitively watched, i kissed a crisp $100 bill and slipped it in the back pocket of her jeans that lay mangled with all our other clothes on the floor. "obrigado. safado. " she stuck her tongue out, giggled and rolled over on her back hoisting my camera in the air, her wide eyes narrowed as she locked her gaze on the tiny lcd screen.

safado. so that’s what they call it down here. i reflected on the word as i strolled the crowded streets of copa on this sunday afternoon alone and reflective. while still not quite sure of its true meaning, ultimately i understand what women are saying. i’ve been hearing it in one form or another since high school. i would hear that word a lot on this vacation. from practically every garota there. even if they weren’t saying it, their body language nevertheless conveyed it.

especially in an area. posto 6 in copa. known as "ho beach".ain’t that an original nome. basically it centers directly opposite what i "originally" named ground zer-ho – meia pataca, helpee and its front yard patio lounge, terracao atlantico, with bob’s burgers across its street. hot fries; delicious, crisp and salty.

i crossed the half desolate car-barred expanse of avenida atlantico heading for copa beach! passing artisans who proferred their wares, i stopped to admire. hurriedly and slowly bikes and bladers had their own lanes, while small kiosks provided curbs for samba. with a side of choppe muito frio. i grabbed one. and took a stroll.

gigantic sand mansions and castles divided beach from granite waves. many of the sculptures depict the glory of the brasileiras and their assets. fio dental and all. pix? $10. 00. naw, i gots that covered.

i’ve come to meet minime, london, camila and katie for my first day on copa. i’m sure one of ‘em will be wearing theirs better than those lovely sand imposters.

this day couldn’t get any better. i’m here and baaack!

southern hemisphere heat is an entirely different oven delight. vegas heat, miami humidity. me and that sun are good again. goodbye t-shirt, hello, oil. ate longe hat, oi head or more accurately. "milk dud" in its current sunned tan.

ipod on donald byrd. "places and spaces i’ve been. ooooh ooh oooh ooh. " i sang along. feel me? on this wide expanse of beach after walking the quick block and a half in less than three minutes, i savored every second visually and digitally. i grooved.

the beach? swarmed! ** easy 400k. from leme and the sugarloaf to the north, along an arcing 4-mile curve to arpoador to the south, with ipa and leblon around a moutain for another 3. there could be a million of us! anyone would be hard pressed in a quest for sand around that elongated half-moon that is copa.

but everything else? muito facil.

balloon venders with their colorful floating delights sailed the sand from afar! chairs and bright umbrellas were like boxed chocolates. i thought of forrest gump. you’ll never know just what you’ll find. " i found out. hotties! caiprinhas in styrafoam. and surprise, surprise?. no wonder snoop came here. it’s that ooooh, icky, icky! "i gots five on it. " oi! daddy’s got music!

food vendors offered delights from shrimp to beer, and breaded chicken on a stick was da bomb! musicians played samba and i danced in the sand, a crisp ten-spot completed my two-step. "’brigado meu amigos. ! "

lifeguards played futbol and police officers leisurely wore shorts, children pampered by their proud and doting parents, tourists and their prey, and of course. gdps. tons of ‘em. everywhere. they were hot!

but not as hot as katie! and i found her just where she said they’d be. sporting her cute black thong, she waved an excited arm as she called me over. "oi. twohands"! minime could only nod as her mouth was occupied by the fattest of joints. london nodded his head as he cupped said joint while minime frantically tried to keep it lit against a gentle yet firm breeze.

i thought it funny. especially when she spoke while trying to retain the chronic within her lungs. think "ta-too" from "fantasy island" and you’re there. even without the trees, her voice was raspy. in a sing-song manner, coupled with her slight lisp, she spoke her perfected, if accented, english.

i nearly fell running to them on the uneven sand giving hugs and high-fives all around. approaching a still puffin’ minime i kissed both cheeks and said "whaddup, tat-also". london caught my pun, as he and i both chuckled heartily. "whatever. safado", she turned and dramatically snapped her head, whipping her pretty hair in the wind. i pulled her sunglasses off her face to reveal her now crimson eyes and said, what would become my most quoted anthem in rio – "no, boa persoa" (good person).

she playfully backed away from me using that former word, very slowly. i gave chase and laughed as i watched the cutest lil’ legs go 100 mph, as it raced her 4 foot frame to the shoreline. man she’s fast! but i still managed to chase her into the ocean. london, camila and katie sat laughing in the sand; london videotaping away.

joining her in the thunderous oceano atlantico, i dived beneath a killer wave. and although it may be close to 95+ degrees on the shore, the ocean was ice cold. strange and delightful. it felt way beyond marvelous.

i went back under the salty water, searching for this pint-sized bundle of joy and grabbed tiny but sturdy legs. she screamed in delight. "noooo. ! " i pulled her under. we both came up for air together. "she gleefully, splashed water in my face and said, "twohands. looky – tha rolinston" – i glanced to my right and sure enough, a huge stage neared completion for a free concert on this very beach, six days from now starring four-senior citizens from the uk!

start me up! i sang loudly doing my best impersonation. hands on hips, elbows splashing water. my "jagger" dance. i was so silly and carefree. happy! we all were on copa.

overhead noisy helicopters circled above this packed beach trailing a banner with that world-famous big red lip and pink tongue. i can’t wait!

later as we all sat listening to "miss you" blaring from my ipod, i mentioned that word to london. "dude all these babes keep calling me that shit! " he affirmed by nodding as he inhaled minime’s passed grass. just as i figured would be the case for any half-way decent looking, intelligent person with a little disposable income and game. but really, here in deviously sexy rio, you don’t even need all that much game. just green. got skills? bring an umbrella with you, ‘cause it’s gonna rain babes.

i turned to katie. pouting, as usual, quietly enjoying her high from the herbal essence. "whazup babygirl? ! " her beautiful mouth parted revealing her stunning smile that has captivated me since i met her not 30 hours ago. alas, she’s hesitant because, "she doesn’t want any trouble. " "i saw you with flavia and now mari last night. safado"! her eyes looked pained. it was all so strange and definitely not about me. this girl has issues. and a fat ass.

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[Bravo]

first off, "raids" are very rare. the reason given is always "**** girls, " and they never find any. essentially, everyone in the house is rounded up into the same room--the bar. if a girl and a guy are in a cabine, well, it's session over.

customers are allowed to leave--after paying their bill. brazilians are given no trouble whatsoever. gringoes may be asked for valid i. the..-or, in lieu of that, a bribe (i have seen this happen, explicitly). a photocopy of your passport will suffice for valid i. the. , unless they really want to try to break your balls, at which point they will hold you until you can have your passport retrieved from your hotel or apartment. they can't do anything but hold you for a few hours until your i. the. is proven. that is all, and even that is very rare. a fine for a gringo without i. the. is just a happy bonus. they're mainly just shaking down the terma owners.

management is never arrested. girls are sometimes taken, briefly, off premises until their age and i. the. can be verified. many times, the girls will return to work before the end of the night--unless the terma closes for the night, and even then, it will almost always be open again the next day.

in short, there is almost never anything serious about them. they appear very serious--machine gun toting polícia from the draco unit--but they rarely ever are.

4x4 was hit like this--with the "**** girls" charge--just over 2 years ago, along with another casa on the same night. then centaurus was hit, then bononia, then praia 400. it happens every so often.

jc

i am not so sure about the "its never anything serious" part. if memory serves me right, about 2 years ago, terma aeroporto or antigua got raided. all the american gringos were deported and their visas revoked.

(although, it may have had something to do with the fact that the majority of the gringos were black. maybe they were trying to send a message)

[Sunset Strip]

I am not so sure about the "its never anything serious" part. If memory serves me right, about 2 years ago, Terma Aeroporto or Antigua got raided. All the American gringos were deported and their visas revoked.

(Although, it may have had something to do with the fact that the majority of the gringos were black. Maybe they were trying to send a message)

on Bravo's aside:
I am not sure race is as much of an issue to Brazilians as some of us make it out to be. Yes, some middle class Brazilians have a problem with American hip hop culture. But please remember that these same Brazilians are the same types who used to have sambistas arrested!!!

In general it just does not make sense that the Brazilian police would target black Americans because they are black.

Furthermore, that kind of reasoning scares people who may want to visit Brazil and who could contribute to this forum.

If Americans are targeted it is because they are Americans, enough said. I doubt Brazilian police are concerned with the race of Americans.

TJ

[Bravo]

on Bravo's aside:
I am not sure race is as much of an issue to Brazilians as some of us make it out to be. Yes, some middle class Brazilians have a problem with American hip hop culture. But please remember that these same Brazilians are the same types who used to have sambistas arrested!!!

In general it just does not make sense that the Brazilian police would target black Americans because they are black.

Furthermore, that kind of reasoning scares people who may want to visit Brazil and who could contribute to this forum.

If Americans are targeted it is because they are Americans, enough said. I doubt Brazilian police are concerned with the race of Americans.

TJ

I really dont want to turn this into another huge race related topic, "been there done that", a million times already.

A little over a year ago, the newspapers in Brasil were claiming that "American black men were the largest growing group of sexual tourists in Brasil". It was around that time, that Rio police were stepping up their harrasement of brothas. I heard dozens of stories, of cops singlying out brothas in line in front of Help and asking them for their IDs. Or, out and out robbing them of money, jewelry, electronics and other possesions.

Unfortunately, most people didnt play close attention to what the article said. "America black men were the largest GROWING group.." The article itself was a little misleading (if a person doesnt know how to read between the lines)

Simple translation : If there are 30 brothas in Copa in February and in March there are now 60, that is a 100% increase, therefore the "growth" is substantial. Now if there are 1500 european/White American men in town at the same time and they only grow to 2000 men in March, then their "growth" isnt as news worthy.

[El Austriaco]

When I called Copa to confirm that everything was legit (I'd never used ABS Travel before), the woman verified my ticket, then "reminded me" that Brazil required passengers coming from Panama to be vaccinated for yellow fever. News to me. But nao problema. I still had about a week and a half till the trip. "Just as long as you get vaccinated at least 10 days before entering Brazil," she said. I did a quick calculation. My trip was in NINE days. She essentially said (in a nice, calm way, compared to the state of panic she was inducing in me) that I was shit out of luck. I thanked her, hung up, and tried to think of a solution. Ultimately, I contacted Embratel, Brazil's tourism agency. They said that visitors coming from Panama don't need a yellow-fever vaccination. They even told me that other Copa passengers have called them about this, prompting Embratel to send several letters to the airline asking them to get their facts straight.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't get it. If you are just changing planes at Tocumen airport in Panamá without leaving the airport (i.e. transiting), why would you even need a YF vaccination... officially, you wouldn't have been in Panamá, anyway, and there are no passport stamps indicating that you were there. I am speaking from experience, I have changed planes at Tocumen four times by now.

The last few times I went to Rio, I went via Bogotá, Colombia, and the same Brazilian YF vaccination requirement applies in case you have been to Colombia within 90 days prior to arrival in Brazil. In 2005, I had a nine-hour layover in Bogotá and wanted to explore the city a bit, but while I have been vaccinated against YF, I just couldn't find my health card, and went without it. Once I was in Bogotá, I checked with the Avianca officials and I was told that as long as I stayed in Bogotá the afternoon (as indicated by the entry stamps), I wouldn't have a problem upon arrival in Rio. They were right... no problem once I made it to Rio.

By the time I arrived in Rio in February of 2006, I DID need proof of YF vaccination since I had spent two weeks in Cartagena and Barranquilla in November of 2005, as clearly shown by Colombian entry and exit stamps in my passport. FP agents at Galeao never checked for it.


As many of you know, the visa does indeed refer to "90 days"—the deadline for making your first visit to Brazil after getting the visa. (It's also how long you can stay in the country without an official extension, but I don't think that's mentioned in the visa.)
IMHO and in my humble experience, how long you are actually allowed to stay in Brazil is entirely at the discretion of the immigration (federal police) officer who checks your passport and/or visa upon arrival. You are right, usually they give you 90 days, but it's not like you are entitled to 90 days: it's just the maximum period they can give you upon arrival. In the past, I have been granted anything between one and three months upon arrival. It's really just up to them. Just like in the US.

Also, I doesn't really matter who long the FP officers at the airport allow you to stay in Brazil initially; you can always extend your length of stay afterwards at the FP headquarters in downtown Rio (Av. Venezuela) for 10 bucks or so. No guaranty that they will do so, of course, but in my experience, they are actually much more relaxed and flexible there than at Galeao. I described the procedure for visa extensions in a prior report (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=393603&postcount=406)

Let me add that in my personal case, considering that I have an EU passport, I don't need a visa, so I can only specifically talk for EU passport holders, though I seriously doubt that the procedure would be very different for passport holders requiring a visa.

Hope this helps.

EA

[Rio Joe]

Maybe it's just me, but I don't get it. If you are just changing planes at Tocumen airport in Panamá without leaving the airport (i.e. transiting), why would you even need a YF vaccinationI think you're right on target. Per my conversation with Embratel, even if you leave the airport, you don't need a YF vaccination to go from Panama to Brazil. (Please, if anyone's concerned about the requirements, don't take my interpretation as the final word on this. Everyone--Copa Air, the Brazilian embassy, Embratel--seemed to have a different take, so look into it thoroughly if you think the issue might come up during your travels.)

[BionicMan]

The last few times I went to Rio, I went via Bogotá, Colombia, and the same Brazilian YF vaccination requirement applies in case you have been to Colombia within 90 days prior to arrival in Brazil. In 2005, I had a nine-hour layover in Bogotá and wanted to explore the city a bit, but while I have been vaccinated against YF, I just couldn't find my health card, and went without it. Once I was in Bogotá, I checked with the Avianca officials and I was told that as long as I stayed in Bogotá the afternoon (as indicated by the entry stamps), I wouldn't have a problem upon arrival in Rio. They were right... no problem once I made it to Rio.
EA
Austriaco: I had a bit of a different experience on a similar issue.
Stayed in Bogotà for about 11 hrs.
Boarded a flight to Sao Paolo with a plane change in S.taCruz in Bolivia and a stop over there of 2-3 hours.
No transit counters at the airside. I had then to "enter" Bolivia (check-in area) going through the immigration for departing people (that was already quite weird and funny feeling, going upstream, with immigration officers nodding but not checking.
When I finally made it to the check in (1hr prior departure) the panic started as by no means they were allowing me to board the flight as I missed the YF vaccination.
They wanted me to go in town and have it done! surely missing the plane.
After mail exchanges with SP I could finally board the plane waiting for me.
But on arrival,once the door was open, I was called by the SP airline agent and set aside.
The problem was back again! no YF vaccination and they knew it as alerted from Bolivia.
They were not at all interested I was due to be out of Brazil within 24hrs to go back to Europe.
Finally, with the second coup de theatre typical of South America, I was guided to the empty immigration area.
An office went to the booth, stamped my passport and ... I was taken to the local airport health office where they vaccinated me!
End of the drama!
But what a panic in Bolivia, fearing not to make it for the connections etc etc
So as usual, no clear rules, or beauraucratic accomplishment of the rules!

[Professor 1]

The girl, by the way, told me she plans on becoming an immigration lawyer.Do not fear, my brother, we teach them how to read at the first-tier law schools. :)

[Rock Harders]

Mongers-
Interestingly, on my most recent trip to Brasil (Rio de Janeiro) the Policia Federal Agent did not stamp my passport on entry and the passport was again not stamped upon exit. I entered on a US passport with a 5 year visa and I had visited Brasil several times before and they stamped the passport upon entry/exit on all other visits. I am a legal resident of Argentina (the flights were to/from Buenos Aires) and I exited Argentina using residence papers in conjunction with my US passport; perhaps being a Mercosur resident has something to do with this, or maybe they are just doing everything electronically now? In addition, no reference to length of stay was given by the PF officer so I just assume it was the standard 90 days stated on the 5 year visa.
Suerte,
Rock Harders

[Sperto]

Per my conversation with Embratel, even if you leave the airport, you don't need a YF vaccination to go from Panama to Brazil. (Please, if anyone's concerned about the requirements, don't take my interpretation as the final word on this. Everyone--Copa Air, the Brazilian embassy, Embratel--seemed to have a different take, so look into it thoroughly if you think the issue might come up during your travels.)
Embratel owns the largest telecommunication network in Brazil. I doubt that they are interested in your vaccinations.

[El Greco]

IMHO and in my humble experience, how long you are actually allowed to stay in Brazil is entirely at the discretion of the immigration (federal police) officer who checks your passport and/or visa upon arrival. You are right, usually they give you 90 days, but it's not like you are entitled to 90 days: it's just the maximum period they can give you upon arrival. In the past, I have been granted anything between one and three months upon arrival. It's really just up to them. Just like in the US.

EA

I have read the corresponding law many times although I don't have it handy now.
You can enter Brazil as many times as you wish per year.

Each time the visa is considered valid for 90 days.That is you are entitled to a 90 days tourist visa. So are Brazilians when entering EU. These laws are usually on a reciprocation basis. I am talking about EU citizens.

But you must not exceed 180 days per year. That is in any given 365 days.

They have a funny, wrong, way calculating this in Fortaleza.
Rio PF agreed on the wrong way of the Fortaleza's PF.

They made me leave the country for no reason although,when I got angry, they kept telling me that I could return next day.

They can only give you less days, instead of 90, if they have reasons. e.g violation of previous stay without permission.

As I said before I read the law. If there are later explanations on that I don't know.

Thanks

El Greco

[Sonhotinho]

Embratel owns the largest telecommunication network in Brazil. I doubt that they are interested in your vaccinations.It's well documented that Yellow Fever is a huge bio-threat to telecommunications. The disease penetrates infrastructures (cables, copper wire, even unlaunched satellites) and turns them into organic mush.

Of course I just made up all that nonsense. I meant Embratur, the Brazilian tourism agency, not Embratel. My bad!

[Jesuscola]

i am not so sure about the "its never anything serious" part. if memory serves me right, about 2 years ago, terma aeroporto or antigua got raided. all the american gringos were deported and their visas revoked.

(although, it may have had something to do with the fact that the majority of the gringos were black. maybe they were trying to send a message)aeroporto, and antigo were raided about 2 years ago--the same day as 4x4. and i was in quatro that night. to my knowledge no one was deported, no revoked visas in any of those raids. and, again, the ostensible reason given was "**** girls. " a few girls without id were removed, and were back in 4x4 later that same night.

there was an additional incident around that time where some black americans were on a chartered boat trip with a guy who was running those sorts of trips around that time, and the boat was full of hookers. all of those guys were arrested and their visas revoked, but, again, separate incidents and circumstances. it was not a terma. the guy running the show was also "detained" for quite a long time.

i was also in bononia when it was raided/closed. brazilians walked freely, gringoes were asked for id. everyone walked freely once documents were provided.

[Off Road]

Mongers-
Interestingly, on my most recent trip to Brasil (Rio de Janeiro) the Policia Federal Agent did not stamp my passport on entry and the passport was again not stamped upon exit. I entered on a US passport with a 5 year visa and I had visited Brasil several times before and they stamped the passport upon entry/exit on all other visits. I am a legal resident of Argentina (the flights were to/from Buenos Aires) and I exited Argentina using residence papers in conjunction with my US passport; perhaps being a Mercosur resident has something to do with this, or maybe they are just doing everything electronically now? In addition, no reference to length of stay was given by the PF officer so I just assume it was the standard 90 days stated on the 5 year visa.
Suerte,
Rock Harders
They now scan your passport, so no need for stamps. They know how long you are there.

[Sperto]

But you must not exceed 180 days per year. That is in any given 365 days.
Right, the same rules goes for Europeans as for brazilians visiting Europe. That is 90 day visa that might be extendended for another 90 days. Maximum 6 months/365 days.

Like EA said it´s up to the PF how many days you will be granted when entering Brazil. You can't expect fore sure to receive 90 days.

In the case of Fortaleza I actually went to the Delegacia, to get informed in another matter, in January. They informed me that they are planning to change the visa period for single men visiting Fortaleza to 1 month. They are tired of sextourism.

[Felocity]

Airline ticket to Rio de Janeiro or Sao Paulo, depart from the east coast.

Pm me for details (leave telephone number). Best offer accepted!

Felocity

[Perkele]

Also, I doesn't really matter who long the FP officers at the airport allow you to stay in Brazil initially; you can always extend your length of stay afterwards at the FP headquarters in downtown Rio (Av. Venezuela) for 10 bucks or so. No guaranty that they will do so, of course, but in my experience, they are actually much more relaxed and flexible there than at Galeao. I described the procedure for visa extensions in a prior report (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=393603&postcount=406)


EA

One correction.

PF is no longer in Av. Venezuela. The headquarters where you need to go is at the Galeao airport, Terminal 1, Zone Red, 2rd floor.

P

[El Greco]

Right, the same rules goes for Europeans as for brazilians visiting Europe. That is 90 day visa that might be extendended for another 90 days. Maximum 6 months/365 days.

Like EA said it´s up to the PF how many days you will be granted when entering Brazil. You can't expect fore sure to receive 90 days.

In the case of Fortaleza I actually went to the Delegacia, to get informed in another matter, in January. They informed me that they are planning to change the visa period for single men visiting Fortaleza to 1 month. They are tired of sextourism.

Hi Sperto,

I did report on the Fortaleza's planing to change the visa status long ago. I remember saying "they don't want us there". Us mongers I mean.

They all started about 3 years ago when a young lady major was elected. Don't know, though, how they can manage to do it with all the bilateral agreements Brasil is having with the EU. Ceara is not having any agreement with EU. Brasil is having them.

I do insist that is not up to the immigration officer whether he will give 90 days or shorter visa stay. Not unless they have a bad record on you (violation of previous entry) or you already have used more than 90 days in your previous entries during the last 365 days. That makes sense.

90 days is the normal procedure according to the law and that is what anyone gets. I am always talking about EU passports.

Thanks

El Greco

[Sperto]

90 days is the normal procedure according to the law and that is what anyone gets.
I always got 90 days. A few times after lots of discussion with the PF. They got suspicious when seeing my old passport filled with brazilian stamps. I've a couple of buddies who only got 1 month visa, but these must be rare exceptions.

In the brazilian regulations it says "The tourist can stay in Brazil for up to 90 days from the day of entry. It is possible to obtain from the competent authorities (Federal Police/DPMAF) in Brazil an authorization to stay in the country as a tourist for a further period of 90 days."

I don't see any reason to be concerned about not getting 90 days.

[El Austriaco]

I do insist that is not up to the immigration officer whether he will give 90 days or shorter visa stay. Not unless they have a bad record on you (violation of previous entry) or you already have used more than 90 days in your previous entries during the last 365 days. That makes sense.
This has not been my experience as a EU passport holder, and I can assure you that when they authorized one month and two-month stays in 2004 and 2005, respectively, there was absolutely no bad record on me (overstays or anything), and I certainly wasn't close to 365 days. In 2004, I wasn't too concerned about it (I was only going to stay for two weeks, anyway), but ultimately, it became a problem since, because of my accident, I couldn't leave the country and had to stay for three-and-a-half months, so I had to extend my visa with the PF. I checked with the Austrian consulate in Rio, mentioning that it was rare that they hadn't given me the customary 90 days, and they (i.e. the vice-consul) informed me that it actually was entirely up to Brazilian immigration how long they allowed anyone to stay. By the same token, extending my visa was also entirely in their discretion and nobody elses. There was no problem extending it, though.

Please note that I said "customary" 90 days. This does not mean that they have to give it to. Check out the following link (see page 3, section "How long can I stay in Brazil on a tourist visa?", translation mine):

http://www.dpf.gov.br/web/servicos/perguntas_respostas.pdf

"Tourists may stay for a maximum of 90 days, which can be extended (at the discretion of the Federal Police) for another 90 days, for a maximum total of 180 days, calculated from the date of entry of the tourist into the country".

In 2005, they only gave me two months upon entry into Brazil, and tired and exhausted after a 10-hour flight or so, I didn't feel like argueing with the PF at Galeao. Again, no overstays in the past, and giving me three months wouldn't have violated the 180/365 rule. But since I was planning on staying two days over two months, I had to extend the visa yet again. Again, no problem, just an inconvenience.

As I have written in an earlier post, the last time I went in 2006, I decided not to speak to the FP officers in Portuguese upon arrival, because that seemed to be the problem in the past (apparently they thought my Portuguese was so good that I just had to have spent more time in the country than my passport stamps indicated). So I just answered the few questions they asked me in very basic English, and voila: 90 days. Beats me.

But as Sperto said, you can NOT count on automatically receiving 90 days. It's up to them, and if they are having a bad day or just don't like your face for any reason, they might give you less. Maybe it's just some bureaucrats wielding their power to feel good about themselves.

BTW, did I mention that both times I got less than 90 days, the PF officers at the airport were female agents?

But anyhow. I guess that for the vast majority of mongers staying a couple of weeks or so, I doesn't really matter whether they get 90 days, or 60, or 30.

EA

[Benjoe]

I'm confused. I thought the immigration officer at the airport stamped the date of my entry into the country on the passport and immigration form. Where are they stamping the maximum length of my stay, or how do I find out what the maximum stay is? Thanks.

[El Austriaco]

I'm confused. I thought the immigration officer at the airport stamped the date of my entry into the country on the passport and immigration form. Where are they stamping the maximum length of my stay, or how do I find out what the maximum stay is? Thanks.
Look at the lower part of the stamp in your passport: there are three fields, from left to right CLAS, DOC, and lastly, PRAZO. Under Prazo (Period), they usually (not always) write the length of stay, i.e. 90, 60, or whatever else. On the entry card, they definitely will write the period you are allowed to stay. This is another reason you should always carry the entry card on you at all times.

I guess that if, for whatever reason, neither the passport stamp or the entry card specify how long you are allowed to stay, you may assume it's the customary 90 days.

Any visa extensions you get afterwards clearly specify the date until which you are allowed to stay on the stamp they put in your passport.

EA

[Benjoe]

Interesting. I always noticed them write something on the immigration form, but I thought that they were only putting their initials on it. In my passport, only a small percentage of the stamps have anything written on them, but I see lengths of stays of 5, 10 and 30 dias written. For the one with 5 days, I don't remember how long I really did stay. I'm going to have to pay more attention to what is written on the form. BTW, I have an American passport with a 5 year visa and have never stayed more than 50 days in a given year. But I do have a lot of Brazilian stamps but don't recall ever over-staying. EA --thanks for the information.

[Mr Enternational]

Mongers-
Interestingly, on my most recent trip to Brasil (Rio de Janeiro) the Policia Federal Agent did not stamp my passport on entry and the passport was again not stamped upon exit. I entered on a US passport with a 5 year visa and I had visited Brasil several times before and they stamped the passport upon entry/exit on all other visits. Suerte,
Rock Harders

They usually always stamp on entry. However, I have not seen a stamp on exit in quite a while. Sometimes they don't even ask to see the passport on exit, they only want you to turn in that card.

[Benjoe]

When a gdp gives a rebate to a local at 4x4, how does the transaction take place? Does she bring cash to the cabine or suite?

[El Greco]

http://www.dpf.gov.br/web/servicos/perguntas_respostas.pdf

"Tourists may stay for a maximum of 90 days, which can be extended (at the discretion of the Federal Police) for another 90 days, for a maximum total of 180 days, calculated from the date of entry of the tourist into the country".

EA

O período de estada é de, no máximo, 90 dias, prorrogável (a critério da Polícia Federal) por mais 90, perfazendo o total de, no máximo, 180 dias por ano,

Can't see where your diagreement lies really. The Policia Federal, always according to the above, can decide whether they will grand or not the extension not the initial 90 days.

Thanks

El Greco

[Sperto]

O período de estada é de, no máximo, 90 dias, prorrogável (a critério da Polícia Federal) por mais 90, perfazendo o total de, no máximo, 180 dias por ano,
Can't see where your diagreement lies really. The Policia Federal, always according to the above, can decide whether they will grand or not the extension not the initial 90 days.
Thanks
El Greco
The initial period is UP TO/MAXIMUM 90 days. There is nothing that says that you're guaranteed to get 90 days in the initial period.

[Oralover]

At this point in my business trip, I have arrived in Rio. I am only here for two days, but will return in early October for 4 days are&are before I return home.

This was not a good day for sightseeing in Rio. Took a drive up to "the redeemer", but the cloud coverage was so bad, not only couldn’t you see the city, but you couldn’t even see the statue. The wind was blowing so hard that you did get to watch all the female tourists wearing skirts trying to hold them down. The sun refused to shine, so there was no action on the beach, and then it started to rain.

I decided it was time to get indoors for some fun, and after rereading all the terma reports, I decided to go to Solarium because of the internet special they offer on Mondays. You don’t have to pay the are$60 for the room for a 40 minute session.

Since it was almost 6:00 I walked from Ipenema to solarium along the lagoa in the rain to avoid the 40 minute taxi ride due to rush hour. This was my first visit to a Terma and if they’re all like this, I’m moving here. I was shocked because allot of reports were mentioning that the women at Solarium had really large asses, and frankly that’s not my style. But I found most of the women there were thin with nice normal butts and some really tight small ones too.

I found it hard not to make eye contact since I find a beautiful or interesting face a necessity. It didn’t take long for one of the girls to notice that I kept staring up at her. She sat down next to me and introduced herself as Sol. I was getting ready to use my Portuguese/Spanish (what my coworkers here call Portanol), when I discovered she is fluent in English. She tells me she is 23, and a student of Journalism. She has intense small eyes and a nice wide smile, dark long hair and a great ass. There was no major resemblance, but when she smiled she reminded me a little of Sandra Bullock.

After offering her a drink, she asked for Vodka/red Bull. I gave her a raised eyebrow and she quickly changed it to vodka/coco. It doesn’t take long before she has her tongue in my mouth and her hands in my lap. I don’t want to rush into a room, but I know when I do it will be with her, so I let her know and she is happy to be playful and drink in the bar.

When we do go upstairs, she offers me the 40 minute room option, or the 60 minute suite option. I know I won’t be using the Jacuzzi, but I also know that it’s going to take me more than 40 minutes to enjoy her, so I opt for the hour. She knows I enjoy kissing, so she kisses and licks me everywhere, and I do mean everywhere. Great BBBJ and ball licking, then we fucked in 3 different positions. She took a short bathroom break, and came back out, got on her knees and did another BBBJ. The hour was up much too quickly, and though I loved every second of it, I still hadn’t cum yet.

We kissed a little longer and then I dressed and headed back to the bar. Sol went to change, and while I was sitting there drinking another camparinha I started checking out the scene. Now there was this short little blond girl (I wonder if this is Doris that Donnie the mentioned) that grabbed my eye. I was thinking that this might be good way to end the evening when Sol walks back in and sees me. She comes over and starts kissing me again. I buy her another drink and we talk some more. I think she is wondering if we will session again that evening. I tell her that I understand that she is working here and she should go and try for another guy tonight. She tells me that she doesn’t like any of them and that she just wants to hang with me.

What happens next was very strange. It may have been something I ate earlier, or more probably, all the smoke in the room; but all of a sudden I was starting to feel nauseas. I quickly told Sol that I was tired but that I would return next week and I beat a hasty retreat.

Getting out of the smoke cleared my head a little, so I changed, tipped the locker attendant and went to pay my bill. Only then did I discover that the internet coupon is for a are$60 40 minute room, not the are$80 60 minute suite. I told them that I should only have to pay the are$20 difference but they just smiled and said no. This was my only disappointment.

Tomorrow I will try Monte Carlo who also offer the internet special on Tuesdays, but I will stick to a 40 minute session for sure.

That’s my report, now for 3 questions.

1) How the hell do you guys bring your cameras in there? Do you just slip them in the robe pockets?

2) What is the Terma etiquette for having a second girl at the same Terma on the same night? I wasn’t sure how I was going to not offend Sol and go off with the little blond.

3) Are Duplas available at the Termas? How do you go about initiating that? What about cost. 2girls, 1 room?

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

[Antgreg]

I'm planning a trip to Rio for the second or third week of January.If anyone from the board will be there also send me a pm.I can be ur wingman or we can meet up.I will be leaving from NYC.

[American Warrior]

I know this may sound dumb and I do not believe it has ever been attempted but lets attempt to drive gdp prices down. I am by the way picking the week of November 15- November 25 to accomplish this mission (lets assume I will be in Rio at that time, okay, not assume, I will be there. You ask yourself how. My little theory.

Lets say that we start this theory out in Help for those mongers that go. Here's how it will work. If every monger when attempting to take a girl home would only offer 150R for the entire night and do not move from that price unless it is lower. If we hold to that, the girls will become aware that and tell others in the bathroom that they are only going to get that from any guy and nothing more then they can choose to be with any guy or go home alone.

So to people who are not on this site we will have to inform at the club.

I already know a hard penis makes one do stupid things. I know you mongers will blast me for this idea but that is how changes happen through radical ideas and a group banding together.

[El Mujerista]

That’s my report, now for 3 questions.

1) How the hell do you guys bring your cameras in there? Do you just slip them in the robe pockets?

2) What is the Terma etiquette for having a second girl at the same Terma on the same night? I wasn’t sure how I was going to not offend Sol and go off with the little blond.

3) Are Duplas available at the Termas? How do you go about initiating that? What about cost. 2girls, 1 room?


Oralover, first, good report, and congratulations for a quick nomination by Jackson to the RoD. Here's my take on your questions:

1. I have very compact Sony DSC-T1 that easily fits in a robe pocket, so that's exactly what I do. Most of the manufacturers make a camera that size. One thing I would recommend is the illuminated auto-focus feature which emits a light to focus the camera -- a big help in termas where the rooms are fairly dark.

2. This can be tricky, but I've done it a number of times. A lot of it just depends on the girl, but I always try to be polite and friendly and if the first girl is alone offer to buy her a drink or two. I've had some pout, but they'll get over it. I'ver never had one go over the top, but if I did I would not hesitate to report it to management.

3. Duplas are definitely available. The only time I've ever had one in Rio it was initiated by the two girls themselves (this was at L'uomo), and I've had it offered a number of times but usually opt out. At my last visit to Centaurus, I lost count of how many offers I had for two girls -- they were really making the hard sell that night. If it's not offered, then the only thing you can do is ask. Yes, it's basically charged at one room + two girls, although some places might offer the occasional special.

Happy Hunting,
EM

[Loso69]

That’s my report, now for 3 questions.

1) How the hell do you guys bring your cameras in there? Do you just slip them in the robe pockets?

2) What is the Terma etiquette for having a second girl at the same Terma on the same night? I wasn’t sure how I was going to not offend Sol and go off with the little blond.

3) Are Duplas available at the Termas? How do you go about initiating that? What about cost. 2girls, 1 room?


1) I use a bulky SLR camera with a separate flash, which I keep in a small backpack. When I enter the boate, I leave my backpack in my locker. When I do a programma, I pick up my backpack from my locker and take it into the room. Couldn't be easier! Even if my camera did fit in my pocket, I'd rather keep it in my locker. Pickpocketing a guy wearing a robe is so easy! And my backpack also contains my own condoms, lubricant and... vibrators!

2) They're working. You're enjoying yourself. I had 8 girls from 4x4 on my last trip. Nobody got jealous! The only thing you should never do is ignore a girl you’ve sessioned with before. Say hello to her, give her a kiss... then excuse yourself, head for the bathroom and strike up a conversation with another girl on your way out...

3) Termas girls usually love duplas. Full pay for half the work! If you ask any garota to find you a 2nd girl for a dupla, she’ll be happy to oblige!

Loso

[Shaguar]

I know that I am going to be asked to the "read the manual" after this post but I would like to ask these questions anyway.

I have wanted to visit Brazil for a several years. My desire predates American rappers discovering it and "bundas" becoming popular in pornogrpahy. I would really like to stop planning and get busy. Since I will be visiting Florida in mid-October, I think it is an opportunity for me to finally just do it. I live in Toronto and that means I will need to get a visa. I can do that, but before I start that I need some details. After all, I can do "seat of my pants" only to a limit - this is international travel. I hope you will share your wisdom and knowledge with someone who hopes to pop his Brazil cherry. My budget is $2500 (US) and I figure about a $1000 os that will go toward travel.

1. I am not visiting exclusively for the sex, but that is part of it. I think Rio would be a good intro to Brazil. What is the minimum number of days in which I could get a reasonable flavour of the place? Would 7 days be enough? I have a max of 9 days I can use for the trip.

2. Is Viagara or such vitamins freely available in Brazil?

3. Where is Rio could I stay during my visit? Would you recommend keeping the room even if I am making an excursion for a day or two to a different city?

4. I am very fond of DPs and I understand Brazilian ladies are often conversant in anal. For the single male in Rio, what is a good way of finding other punters etc. who could be the other slice of bread in the sex sandwich?

5. What single guide book would you recommend I buy and take with me on the trip?

6. What camera or video camera should I take with me to document my travels? Something inexpensive and sturdy but still good (but not good enough to attract thieves) - any recommendations?

7. Should I have dollars converted to reals before I get to Brazil?

That's all I have for now. Thanks.

[El Austriaco]

1) How the hell do you guys bring your cameras in there? Do you just slip them in the robe pockets?
A camera phone is the easiest, IMHO.


2) What is the Terma etiquette for having a second girl at the same Terma on the same night? I wasn’t sure how I was going to not offend Sol and go off with the little blond.
IMHO, the most difficult thing for newbies to Rio is not to find girls, but actually get rid of them and explore other options while staying clear of telenovela-style drama once you have found them, whether at Help, the Copacabana outdoor restaurants, or in the termas. You can bet that if you treat the girls nicely, compassionately and generously, they will try to monopolize you and keep you all for themselves as much as possible: guys like you are rare, certainly much much rarer than attractive women. In a terma, you are a paying customer who can pick and chose at your exclusive whim. If a previous girls you wouldn't mind repeating with in the future tries to pressure you and isolate you from other girls, just tell her the truth: that you like her, but that you are in the mood for something (someone) else today. Ask her whom of her colleagues she would recommend, possibly for a dupla (even if that dupla might never materialize). That way, the girl has something to gain for picking a good performer for you, too.

Remember, you are king, and anywhere in Rio, there is no reason for having to let the girls dick you around.

Personally, I really wouldn't worry to much about possibly offending a terma girl by picking another one the same night. They are professionals, they are there for a reason, to earn money through sexual services, so they will understand, and if they don't, well, then that's their problem. No reason for you to get involved in that.


Lets say that we start this theory out in Help for those mongers that go. Here's how it will work. If every monger when attempting to take a girl home would only offer 150R for the entire night and do not move from that price unless it is lower. If we hold to that, the girls will become aware that and tell others in the bathroom that they are only going to get that from any guy and nothing more then they can choose to be with any guy or go home alone.
Here's why this will never work, Quedog: as mongers, we are just too diverse a group, with huge differences in access to information, budgets, time frames, language skills, negotiating skills, priorities, and preferences. Your strategy of not budging from R$ 150.00 for the entire night is simply ludicrous in terms of opportunity costs for someone who, say, makes USD 200K, spends just two or three days in Rio, won't be back there in years probably and just happens to run into the girl of his dreams. Such a guy would just regret it for the rest of his days if he didn't take this girl home with him that night, money being almost no issue.

If you want to lower prices in the tourist P4P segment of Rio, why not do this: don't go to the tourist hangouts and explore cheaper options. Tell others not to go, either, and provide them with cheaper options. Just recently, there was a flurry of updated information on cheaper P4P all over Rio. Perhaps eventually, as business plummets, overpriced Copa chicks may fall in line, too :)

EA

[JuiceGuy]

My sidekick and I arrived in Rio yesterday. Although "we're not worthy" of even being considered in the same league as some of the more seasoned mongers we have been to China, Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore, Taiwan, Korea, Japan, Dominican Republic, and Costa Rica, we have never been to Rio before.

WOW! Now I know what all you guys are bragging about! What a huge difference between the women here and the women in Costa Rica or even Dominican Republic.

Just got back from 4 x 4 a few minutes ago. We hit a lot of traffic getting there with rush hour, but it was well worth the effort. Thanks to Bubba we had a lot of great direction. We arrived around 5:30 PM. I could have thrown a dart and hit an 8, 9, or even a 10. The girls were beautiful. On this night at least there was no one that I saw lower than a 7, most were 8's and 9's, and there were even a few 10's.

I picked a tall nineteen year old beauty named Domenica. She said she only worked there for three months so far and that she was leaving in another two months, but who really knows? She gave one of the best BBBJ's I have ever received. She really knew what she was doing and seemed to generally like giving it.

I forgot to ask the rules before choosing her. In fact, I was so overwhelmed I totally forgot all of Bubba's rules and questions. I think I am going to have to write them on my arm next time. I got lucky though and she was ok with "completa". English and Spanish were minimal but hand signals worked just fine.

In all honestly the BBBJ was the best part of the story. The rest was just ok, but not because she didn't try hard. It all worked out in the end.

Last night I spoke with Uncle Dan who provided some great advice. Thanks Uncle Dan.

We arrived in the AM and slept most of the day. We went to HELP at 8:00 PM. What the hell were we thinking? The doors didn't open until 11:00 PM.

It was a very small crowd last night, probably because it was a Monday night and it had been raining the whole day and night. Ironically, the rates didn't drop even though the ratios were in our favor.

My wingman found one early on. I found one too, but I couldn't negotiate the right deal. She wanted are$300 for 1 hour, no "completa" and she wanted me to go back to her apartment which was close. What she really wanted was to make it a quickie and then head back to HELP for more action/money. She WAS hot though so I offered are$200 "todo el noche" at my hotel even without "completa". She turned me down and I moved on quickly. Too bad, I don"t think she turned the double play she was looking for last night. Her loss. As someone said to me last night "something of something is better than nothing of nothing". (Profound when we are drinking aren't we! )

I moved on. I started to feel the pressure because my wingman found his girl early on and they were waiting for me. He was cool though and so was she. I found a hot blonde named Veronica. We hit it off pretty well. She wanted are$300 for the entire night with "completa". At this point I had drank too much (remember we sat at the restaurant outside for three hours drinking beer waiting for HELP to open"), and feeling the pressure the make a decision. I took her bait and didn't even negotiate. I know, my bad. However, it was well worth it. She was hot, sweet, and good. She worked hard and new what she was doing. Great BBBJ (and another one this morning). Definitely worth it, although I paid too much. Still, I highly recommend her.

A couple of random points of information:

1) The Sheraton is girl friendly, however, next time I will definitely look into the apartments above help for $50 a night. I know someone that stayed there and loved it. Much closer to all the action and a lot cheaper.

2) The Taxi situation at the Sheraton is kind of a scam. It took us one ride to figure that out. Yesterday they charged us are$45 to take us to HELP. Today we specifically requested a yellow taxi with a meter and a similar trip cost are$14 on the meter. If you stay at the Sheraton avoid what appears to be the "official" taxi stand. Ask the doorman for a yellow taxi with a meter. He will whistle one over.

I gotta give out thanks to Bubba. We would be completely lost without your guide.

Will send more updates tomorrow or the following day.

Juiceguy

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[Off Road]

I know this may sound dumb and I do not believe it has ever been attempted but lets attempt to drive gdp prices down. .
I concur with EA, trying to drive the price to R$150 inside of Help will never work. First the girls are out a minimum of R$23, but also get a drink so they are out R$30 to start. And I know some who go every day, that means they are paying R$900 a month just for a work location.
Then looks are a big factor, lately there have been a ton of girls I consider 4-6's, not attractive at all to me. There are a few nicer ones, but seem very few lately, they might go for less, but they have dreams of more.
I am currently staying with one Help gal full time, she was a R$300 gal and stuck to it, of course now that she is with me full time, the weekly rate is much less, we agreed on R$750 a week. For me this is not an issue and is a bargain, and what I prefer (perception of a real GF, and for sure I am getting the full GFE with her). Doing long term with gals might help drive the price down, as they will go withsomeone for less in hopes they land someone they can stay with.
So depends on what you want. If you want R$100-R$150 or less, you can go to the Balcony, but inside Help, R$150 is too low IMHO, maybe late at night, but I have takens a few friends of my "GF" home to their place without any work, some will just hold out.
You do have to remember, they are not stupid when it comes to getting money from guys, most have been doing it for years.

[Edward M]

That’s my report, now for 3 questions.

1) How the hell do you guys bring your cameras in there? Do you just slip them in the robe pockets?That is what I do. Be careful not to lose it/steam it in the shower.
2) What is the Terma etiquette for having a second girl at the same Terma on the same night? I wasn’t sure how I was going to not offend Sol and go off with the little blond.Just tell her you want to go with someone else if she asks. It is your money and time. If she pouts and that bothers you can always make up for it if you just go with her again later.
3) Are Duplas available at the Termas? How do you go about initiating that? What about cost. 2girls, 1 room?It is much tougher to avoid duplas than to arrange them. Make sure you know what you are going to get. Girl on girl is NOT automatic. Sometimes you can get two girls that ignore each other and you when you are with the other and sometimes you get an amazing show and double action. A lot depends on the girls and how they feel about each other.

As for cost, L'uomo charges twice for the girl and room but you get a bigger room. 65 gives a 2 girl discount. 4x4 charges double and requires a 1 hour session.

[Oralover]

Well after the late night nausea session, I was able to get 1 full hour of sleep last night. So that makes 5hours in 2 nights. Surprisingly, I was actually feeling good all day. Lots of fruit for breakfast and that wonderful Acai and Guarana from the juice shop, plus a jog across the Ipenema beach for exercise. So around 6:30 PM, I decide I’m fit for another night at the Termas; the last for me this week. I pick Monte Carlo both because of recent good reviews and because of another free internet coupon to save the are$60 Fee for the room.

I have to say that I was disappointed in Monte Carlo. For my tastes, there was a larger selection of good looking girls at Solarium. Business here was slow, so some of the girls were slightly aggressive for my taste. I was trying to just sit back for the first while and see if any other talent was going to appear from up stairs. I find it very hard to nicely tell someone that you are just trying to relax for a little bit while they are grabbing your hand and sticking it on their ass; it’s especially hard if you’re looking around the room thinking this may be your best option for the night. I started using the "I can’t understand you" routine, even though I understood about 75% of what they were saying in Portuguese.

One girl who seemed attractive, in a girl next door sort of way, sat next to me and struck up a conversation mixed with groping and kissing. I think her name was Leticia, but it was really hard to hear her over the music. I bought her a drink. She ordered a caipirinha and brought me my second (damn I love that drink). During the drink she proceeded to kiss and lick my neck, ears, mouth etc. Sensual kissing with eyes contact is a big turn on for me, and in the dark room I couldn’t spot any better option at the moment; so we decided to make the move upstairs. In the brighter lights of the hallway, you start to notice things you didn’t see in the darker bar. Not that there was anything wrong with her, it’s just that you notice more in the bright light. Hell, I didn’t even realize until then that this girl had braces, and we had been kissing for a good 20 minutes (for the life of me, I’ll never figure out how I missed that). Leticia led me up another flight, and into our room. I am not sure the size of rooms in the other termas (as I had grabbed a suite in Solarium) but this room was tiny. Basically, room for a bed and 2 people to stand next to it. Not very comfortable or enticing. If they’re all like this, I think I will stick to suites as I usually prefer the full hour that you get with it anyway.

I’m not sure if it was the lack of sleep, or the 2 caipirinhas I just downed without any solid food that day; but I was having a hard time getting a full erection in the room. Leticia was great about this and proceeded to inflate me with her mouth. She then popped on the condom and we fucked mish for a good while. But then she started switching positions to cowgirl (not well performed) and Doggy. The condom and lack of friction started to cause my cock to lose interest. Again Leticia sensed the right thing to do and pulled off the condom and continued to suck and lick my cock to completion with a nice facial. Just before I shot my load, she stuck her finger up my ass further than my doctor ever has in a prostate exam. I’ve got nothing against anal play, but I have to admit that with the length of her nails I was worried for a second.

The phone rang about 1 minute after the moneyshot, so the timing was perfect. We cleaned up, dressed, and I went back downstairs to wait for her in the bar. We talked for a little while after, and I bought her another caipirinha (none for me this time). I noticed a few new faces were in the room, but mostly on the same scale as what was already there. Thanking her for being so good about my lackluster performance, I kissed Leticia and said my goodbyes. I doubt I will see her again, as I don’t think I’ll be returning to Monte Carlos.

Cost:
Walked from Ipenema so no taxi
R$60 entrance
R$0 for the room (thanks to the coupon)
R$130 for Leticia (40 minutes)
R$40 for 4 caipirinhas
TOTAL R$230

1 new question.

Some of my work mates want to go to Help tomorrow night. Since none of them know about my mongering, will I be running into the girls from the termas there? If so, do they make it obvious where they know you from? Just deciding whether to sit this one out, and go when I’m back on vacation next week. Though I am sure it would be more fun with friends than solo.

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[Lorenzo]

That’s my report, now for 3 questions.

1) How the hell do you guys bring your cameras in there? Do you just slip them in the robe pockets?

2) What is the Terma etiquette for having a second girl at the same Terma on the same night? I wasn’t sure how I was going to not offend Sol and go off with the little blond.

3) Are Duplas available at the Termas? How do you go about initiating that? What about cost. 2girls, 1 room?

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1) Yes.

2) Usually not a problem. Remember, this is a business. She won't hesitate to go off with another guy. Just be polite and respectful, thank her for the great time, and then go off and start talking to other girls.

3) Duplas are always available, but be careful. At L'uomo they will not only charge you for 2 girls, which is appropriate, but will charge you twice for the room as well. I protested this, but to no avail. Apparently they don't do this at Centaurus. I don't know about other termas.

L

[Edward M]

1 new question.

Some of my work mates want to go to Help tomorrow night. Since none of them know about my mongering, will I be running into the girls from the termas there? If so, do they make it obvious where they know you from? Just deciding whether to sit this one out, and go when I’m back on vacation next week. Though I am sure it would be more fun with friends than solo.They will probably only go there on Friday or Saturday night but not all termas girls go to Help. I would estimate less than 1/4 will be there on a given Fri or Sat. However, if she is there and knows you (they have amazing memories) she will probably say hello and profess her love. Do your workmates know what is up with Help? Maybe they want to hook up as well but remember the old saying, "Don't crap where you eat."

As an aside, how can I get a job that takes business trips to Rio?

[Dutch44]

Hi Juiceguy,

Saw your post. I am in Rio now (yippy!!!) and will go to HELP tonight. Question: how many women compared to men where here? 2: 1?


My sidekick and I arrived in Rio yesterday.....We arrived in the AM and slept most of the day. We went to HELP at 8:00 PM. What the hell were we thinking? The doors didn't open until 11:00 PM...... I found a hot blonde named Veronica. We hit it off pretty well. ...I highly recommend her.


Taxis: Yes, I know about that scam. NEVER take the taxis that are in front of HELP. They will wave and shout at you taxi,taxi! Just cross the street towards the beach (but never go onto the beach at night) and take a taxi driving on the Altantica Avenue or walk 100 yards to the side, and you will find a normal metered taxi.

Take care, may be I'll see you tonight.
Dutch44

[JuiceGuy]

[QUOTE=Dutch44]Hi Juiceguy,

Saw your post. I am in Rio now (yippy!!!) and will go to HELP tonight. Question: how many women compared to men where here? 2: 1?

The ratio was probably a bit better than 2:1. However, I think the Termas are a lot more fun and better looking women (as say as a beautiful 20 yr old named Juliana from HELP still sleeps in my bed!).

I have not seen the same girls in HELP as I saw in 4 x4, but I have only been to 4 x 4 once and HELP twice.

Question for all: "How do i ditch this beautiful Juliana so I can go to the Terma with my Wingman? :) I guess I will figure that out myself. It's a rough life, but someone has to do it!

[Almotu]

I picked a tall nineteen year old beauty named Domenica. . . . I found a hot blonde named Veronica.Would you by any chance have any photos to share of these two babes?

[Almotu]

Walked from Ipanema so no taxi. . . . Some of my work mates want to go to Help tomorrow night. Since none of them know about my mongering, will I be running into the girls from the termas there? If so, do they make it obvious where they know you from? Just deciding whether to sit this one out, and go when I’m back on vacation next week. Though I am sure it would be more fun with friends than solo.I don't know what time of the day you are walking but be careful. If your mates suggest going to HELP, I think they know it is a place for P4P/mongering so you shouldn't worry. As for running into a terma girl, chances are good and the girls can be very indiscreet so be prepared with a "oh, she got me mixed up with someone else" routine if you want to. As for having more fun with friends, I find that it is optimum to be in a party of 3 or less guys ... it is easier to find a chick for each versus when it's a larger group of men. My two cents.

[Oralover]

I don't know what time of the day you are walking but be careful. Thanks for the note of concern. I do understand that there are some risk in walking around. Usually I am very safe. Don't over dress, no phone or camera, plus I am from the mediteranian so I am slightly darker than the normal north american or european.

When I am walking to the clubs it is usually dark but still early; say 6:30. When I leave the terma I usually jump in a taxi for a short ride, but get them to let me out well before my destination. I figure that the muggers probably have a better chance of following you when you leave a terma or somewhere like Help where they know they will find someone who has money in their pockets and other things on their mind.

If I was going back after midnight, I would have the taxi take me all the way back to the hotel though.

Thanks again for the watchful eye.

[El Austriaco]

1. I am not visiting exclusively for the sex, but that is part of it. I think Rio would be a good intro to Brazil. What is the minimum number of days in which I could get a reasonable flavour of the place? Would 7 days be enough? I have a max of 9 days I can use for the trip.
I think that in a busy week, you can see the major sights and dig a bit deeper into Brazilian culture while exploring the most common P4P options, too. Don't forget to make some time to simply spend on the beach, possibly outside of the city (Angra, Búzios). Of course, 9 days would be better than 7.

I described the most common non-P4P activities in a recent post (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=635049&postcount=4201). As you can see, there are tons of things to do in Rio.


2. Is Viagara or such vitamins freely available in Brazil?.
Yes, they are, over the counter, no prescription required. Just go to any pharmacy.


3. Where is Rio could I stay during my visit? Would you recommend keeping the room even if I am making an excursion for a day or two to a different city?
Read the Rio Hotels and Apartment section, where you will find tons of information on hotels, apartments, etc. All depends on your budget and accommodation preferences. Don't see any reason to keep the room if you want to stay overnight somewhere else... hotels are not cheap in Rio, even less so at the current exchange rate. Just think what else you could spend the money on that you save...


4. I am very fond of DPs and I understand Brazilian ladies are often conversant in anal. For the single male in Rio, what is a good way of finding other punters etc. who could be the other slice of bread in the sex sandwich?
Before the trip, posting here is a good way to hook up with other mongers. When in Rio, other mongers are easy to find at Meia Pataca, Balcony, Terraco Atlantico, in Help. You will also run into some of them in the Termas. Of course, there is no guarantee any of them will be into the same things you are (and somehow, I got a feeling that it will be more difficult to find other guys interested in participating in a DP than GDPs willing to engage in it). Good luck.


5. What single guide book would you recommend I buy and take with me on the trip?
None other than the Bubba Guide right here. Read it thoroughly a few times, print it out, and take it with you. Then read the Reports of Distinction for additional anecdotal information. Then read the different sections here on ISG as much as time permits, and you will have all the information that you will ever need. Every other single guide book I have read simply pales in comparison to the depth of information, accuracy, and insight of the combined contributions of the members here.


6. What camera or video camera should I take with me to document my travels? Something inexpensive and sturdy but still good (but not good enough to attract thieves) - any recommendations?
I recommend any small, sturdy digital camera. Insofar as "not good enough to attract thieves" is concerned, hm... cameras are expensive in Brazil, so any camera you bring might possibly attract the attention of thieves, so I would say, bring the best camera you can afford to lose :) Special precautions are necessary to ensure your camera actually comes home with you (I posted some of my experiences under http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=495013&postcount=1567; Sperto posted some more here: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=495038&postcount=1509).


Should I have dollars converted to reals before I get to Brazil?
I don't think this is necessary. Bring a combination of emergency cash in USD, ATMs (possibly several), and CCs (possibly several). Converting dollars to R$ elsewhere will most likely cost you more in fees than in Brazil, so if you want to bring some cash, bring USD or EUR, possibly. As far as I can see, most mongers rely on ATMs for accessing money.

Hope this helps,

EA

[Orebell]

Here are my answers.

1. The more time in Rio the better, but if you have a limited budget, I say better to stay less and not have to worry about running out of money. You mentioned a budget of $2500. I think that is a little low 7 to 9 days. You say you think you can get there for $1000. I say it most likely will be a little more than that but it all depends on where you are coming from. But that will leave you $1500 let's just say. Maybe, and I say maybe you can get an Apartment for $50 a day. Don't count on a place like that being the best. There might be other little fees associated with an apartment such as a cleaning fee, yada, yada. Let's say you get it for $50 a day, you are looking at $400 to $500+ for the trip. Let's go with the low number. That will leave you with a little over $1000 to sightsee, taxi around, eat and drink, and screw some girls. Can it be done? Sure, it can but I think you are going to have to be very selective and you may be sitting around a lot in Brazil doing nothing because you are short on funds. My opinion is if you can, wait until you can save another $1000. That would give you some breathing room to do some more things and not have to be as selective.

2. Viagra and other type erection medications are easily available in any drug store. No problem.

3. Personally speaking I like the hotel scene. Someone comes to clean the room every day. They might have breakfast in the AM. Other people around including staff that may speak english. But you are on a limited budget and a hotel will be more expensive than an apartment. You ask about keeping the room if you make some outside the city excusions. I am assuming that means if you get an apartment should you keep it. Based on your budget, I would say no. But depending on where you rent it from, you may have to.

4. Finding another guy to do a girl? Don't know on that one. There may be guys out there like that, but I am personally not into that scene. Why not try two girls instead of another guy?

5. Don't buy any single guide book. Don't waste your money. Read the reports here and WSG and Club Hombre. There are at least 2 very comprehensive reports out there which are free and give you a ton of information. Find them and read them over and over and over again.

6. Personally I like the Canon Powershot Elph series camera. Small and compact. Take superb pictures and video clips. Not the cheapest cameras, but look for some deals out there. I used an SD 800 on my first Rio trip. If you are worried about someone stealing it, just be discrete and pay attention to what is going on around you.

7. No need to exchange money before you leave. In the Rio airport there is a place to exchange money and you can change maybe $100 to get you where you need to go. After that, use an ATM to get cash or credit card.

In summary, I would wait until I had a little more cash available before I went. Or shorten the trip. Make it a 4 or 5 day trip. A lot of this depends on how much you want to do. I went on my first trip and had zero interest in any sort of sightseeing. My only interest was the women. Trip number #2 is going to be the same way for me. My goal was to do as many women as I could in 5 days. I pretty much only saw the women in the Termas and that for me was a budget at $250 to $300 a day US$. That would be 2 women a day, in 4 x 4 Termas, some drinks and taxi to and from hotel. You might be into something else. It all really depends.


I know that I am going to be asked to the "read the manual" after this post but I would like to ask these questions anyway.

1. I am not visiting exclusively for the sex, but that is part of it. I think Rio would be a good intro to Brazil. What is the minimum number of days in which I could get a reasonable flavour of the place? Would 7 days be enough? I have a max of 9 days I can use for the trip.

2. Is Viagara or such vitamins freely available in Brazil?

3. Where is Rio could I stay during my visit? Would you recommend keeping the room even if I am making an excursion for a day or two to a different city?

4. I am very fond of DPs and I understand Brazilian ladies are often conversant in anal. For the single male in Rio, what is a good way of finding other punters etc. who could be the other slice of bread in the sex sandwich?

5. What single guide book would you recommend I buy and take with me on the trip?

6. What camera or video camera should I take with me to document my travels? Something inexpensive and sturdy but still good (but not good enough to attract thieves) - any recommendations?

7. Should I have dollars converted to reals before I get to Brazil?

That's all I have for now. Thanks.EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

[JuiceGuy]

Would you by any chance have any photos to share of these two babes?I wish I did. I haven't had the cajones to pull the camera out yet. I wish I did though. If you go to 4 x 4 ask to see Domenica. Worth it for the BBBJ. One of the best.

[JuiceGuy]

Been in Rio for two and a half days so far and am mixing things up rather well. However I need a little "assistance". No, I do not need Viagra, that is not the problem. However, at this point it feels raw from all the grinding and takes forever to complete. Any advice?

[Pipe Layer99]

...
Question for all: "How do i ditch this beautiful Juliana so I can go to the Terma with my Wingman? :) I guess I will figure that out myself. It's a rough life, but someone has to do it!

Simply tell her you have some other things you'd like to do - like meet up with your buddy.
Remember, she will be back at another bar or in Help either way doing the same thing. No need for concern about her feelings. DD

[JuiceGuy]

Simply tell her you have some other things you'd like to do - like meet up with your buddy.

Remember, she will be back at another bar or in Help either way doing the same thing. No need for concern about her feelings. DDDonny,

Boy did I mess up. So the Big Man (I say sarcastically about myself) got rid of the little girl. Great, my Wingman is sick and doesn't feel like going out and, not thinking that I would need it, I didn't write down Juliana's telephone number carefully and can't reach her. Taught me a damn lesson. I know I could go to HELP at 11:00 and find her, but I am debating if I want to try to hit a Terma by myself.

[Jan 156]

Question for all: "How do i ditch this beautiful Juliana so I can go to the Terma with my Wingman? I guess I will figure that out myself. It's a rough life, but someone has to do it!

You might also find it useful to invent a job if you don't have one. Nothing too onerous, one where you have to manage your own time but unfortunately stick to deadlines ocasionally when stuff has to get done. Otherwise you could get into answering endless questions about your other things and why are they more important than her and so on.

[Pipe Layer99]

Of course you want to be polite. However, its not about her at this point. She is on your time and whats more, on your dime. The longer she stays, the more money she will want. When you are done with her services its time
for her to go. Just tell her the truth - you are going to hook up with a friend. Period! Its your vacation and you want to see a friend.
If she asks too much, just tell her you have to go. If you want to be really nice, tell her you might call her another day.

As soon as she leaves, I'll bet you 10 - 1 she will be off to make another buck from the next guy. So don't even think twice about it.
Be like Nike, and just do it! ;-))



You might also find it useful to invent a job if you don't have one. Nothing too onerous, one where you have to manage your own time but unfortunately stick to deadlines ocasionally when stuff has to get done. Otherwise you could get into answering endless questions about your other things and why are they more important than her and so on.

[Junior]

That’s my report, now for 3 questions.

1) How the hell do you guys bring your cameras in there? Do you just slip them in the robe pockets?

2) What is the Terma etiquette for having a second girl at the same Terma on the same night? I wasn’t sure how I was going to not offend Sol and go off with the little blond.

3) Are Duplas available at the Termas? How do you go about initiating that? What about cost. 2girls, 1 room?

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.[/QUOTE]

1: I keep a small bab containing condoms, notepaper, pens and camera in my locker. When it is time to go to the room I pick it up. Never had any issues with this approach.

2: No problem - they have tried it many times before. I usually sesssion atleast twice when I visit a terma and it is rarely with the same girl, although there have been exceptions. Just be honest with her and don't have her sit with you for a long time expecting to go with her again.

3: To get a dupla at a terma you just have to show up. It is very common and very good. I like to find a girl I like and ask her to bring a friend - subject to my approval of course. Another fun thing is to ask the manager for two bisexual girls. There is a big difference between having two heterosexual girls working on you and having two bi girls working on you and eachother.
The costs are dubble up on the girl fees and ypu pay for one room. Except at luomo where you pay twice for the room.

[Junior]

I know that I am going to be asked to the "read the manual" after this post but I would like to ask these questions anyway.

I have wanted to visit Brazil for a several years. My desire predates American rappers discovering it and "bundas" becoming popular in pornogrpahy. I would really like to stop planning and get busy. Since I will be visiting Florida in mid-October, I think it is an opportunity for me to finally just do it. I live in Toronto and that means I will need to get a visa. I can do that, but before I start that I need some details. After all, I can do "seat of my pants" only to a limit - this is international travel. I hope you will share your wisdom and knowledge with someone who hopes to pop his Brazil cherry. My budget is $2500 (US) and I figure about a $1000 os that will go toward travel.

1. I am not visiting exclusively for the sex, but that is part of it. I think Rio would be a good intro to Brazil. What is the minimum number of days in which I could get a reasonable flavour of the place? Would 7 days be enough? I have a max of 9 days I can use for the trip.

2. Is Viagara or such vitamins freely available in Brazil?

3. Where is Rio could I stay during my visit? Would you recommend keeping the room even if I am making an excursion for a day or two to a different city?

4. I am very fond of DPs and I understand Brazilian ladies are often conversant in anal. For the single male in Rio, what is a good way of finding other punters etc. who could be the other slice of bread in the sex sandwich?

5. What single guide book would you recommend I buy and take with me on the trip?

6. What camera or video camera should I take with me to document my travels? Something inexpensive and sturdy but still good (but not good enough to attract thieves) - any recommendations?

7. Should I have dollars converted to reals before I get to Brazil?

That's all I have for now. Thanks.


0: I think you budget is too low for a week+ in Rio. You will probably need to spend some of your hobbying time at the cheaper places in centro.

1: One week in Rio is ok. For regular sightseeing there are many good and reasonably priced tours. Sightseeing and beaches during the day and hobbying and bithces during the night is a wonderful program for spending a week in Rio.

2: All pharmacies have liberal policies with regards to prescriptions.

3: With your budget I would get a cheap apartment - but please don't expect a lot. Alternatively I would try Rio Roiss hotel. It is prob. going to set you back R170 or so, but is very conviniently located.

4: Never tried that. Try asking the girl if she can bring a male friend.

5: Bubbas guide. Print the maps with the terma locations. Get to know the subway system.

6: no idea.

7: Bring USD and exchange them at a cambio once you get to Rio.

And most importantly have FUN.

[Oralover]

7. Should I have dollars converted to reals before I get to Brazil?The best place to chabge your money is at the travel agency in Rio. My Hotel hooked me up with Samba in Ipanema. The bank machine was giving a rate of 1. 86, the bank teller was giving 1. 8 and Samba gave me 1. 96. When I first went in, they said 1. 92, but then I said my hotel had just called for me and was told 1. 96. It turns out the actual rate they give is 1. 98 and the hotel (or the teller) gets the extra. 02; but I can't complain, the actual international exchange rate for that day was 1. 86. I don'tknow how they do it.

[JuiceGuy]

My wingman was sick and decided not to go out. We had dinner at Porchau, one of the best, and then went back to the hotel. I sat in front of my computer reading reports on the board. I didn't want to wait and go back to HELP, especially because I had been there two nights in a row and I was beginning to feel like I needed to dodge some of the girls (the ones I had already chosen but didn't want to spend more time with and the girls who I had spoken with on the previous days). I also think, from my limited experience, that the Terma girls work hader, are looking for repeat customers, and are prettier.

We are staying in Leblon (bad choice) and I didn't want to head all the way to Centro by myself and walk down the alley that 4 x 4 is on. It probably would have been fine, but why not try something new?

I headed to L'uomo at around 9:30 PM. My taxi driver suggested that I try Monte Carlo instead, but, remembering how much Bubba loved L'uomo I decided to stick to my guns. I arrived at L'uomo a few minutes later.

I have to say I was very underwhelmed. In fact, it was dead. There were only about 15-20 girls there and about 10-12 men (few of which looked like they were interested in taking a girl back to a cabina). The big problem was that most of the girls were 6's and 7's, mostly 7's, and their was not much variety. All the girls kind of had the same features, dark skin, ok looking, nothing special. Not like the larger mix that I witnessed at 4 x 4 or even HELP.

I had a beer and decided that I should probably cut my losses, wait for HELP to open and bring back Juliana again. But what if she was already "picked" and was not there? Decisions, Decisions. This is stupid, I thought. 1 chica at L'uomo or one chica where I was? Either wasy the finito result was going to be like the Mastercard advertisement: "priceless". How much dumb thinking can one man do before settling in on a chica!

At about this mind moment, a nice chica named Samantha approached me. She was about 5'1" tall with A cups. Tight body but not 18 year old tight, which is better at this point for me because I want a woman who knows what she is doing. Samantha wasn't beautiful and she wasn't overly pretty, but she was ok. A definite 7. I asked her one question. "What do you do? " She licked my ear and said "everything". I said to myself, what the hell?

I took Samantha to one of those small "suites" (clean room, bed, toilet with no door, and shower--no soap though! ). She said was 25, but she looked closer to 30-35--noting personal) She was really, really sweet and good at everything. Great BBBJ, great sex, worked hard to please, genuinely affectionate. She claims I made her cum "really", but who knows?

Although I had a great experience thanks to Samantha, I probably will pass on L'uomo in favor of 4 x 4 in the future. Overall I wasn't impressed with L'uomo. Could have just been the night or time I hit it.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

[Mangera]

My wingman was sick and decided not to go out. We had dinner at Porchau, one of the best, and then went back to the hotel. I sat in front of my computer reading reports on the board. I didn't want to wait and go back to HELP, especially because I had been there two nights in a row and I was beginning to feel like I needed to dodge some of the girls (the ones I had already chosen but didn't want to spend more time with and the girls who I had spoken with on the previous days). I also think, from my limited experience, that the Terma girls work hader, are looking for repeat customers, and are prettier.

We are staying in Leblon (bad choice) and I didn't want to head all the way to Centro by myself and walk down the alley that 4 x 4 is on. It probably would have been fine, but why not try something new?

I headed to L'uomo at around 9:30 PM. My taxi driver suggested that I try Monte Carlo instead, but, remembering how much Bubba loved L'uomo I decided to stick to my guns. I arrived at L'uomo a few minutes later.

I have to say I was very underwhelmed. In fact, it was dead. There were only about 15-20 girls there and about 10-12 men (few of which looked like they were interested in taking a girl back to a cabina). The big problem was that most of the girls were 6's and 7's, mostly 7's, and their was not much variety. All the girls kind of had the same features, dark skin, ok looking, nothing special. Not like the larger mix that I witnessed at 4 x 4 or even HELP.

I had a beer and decided that I should probably cut my losses, wait for HELP to open and bring back Juliana again. But what if she was already "picked" and was not there? Decisions, Decisions. This is stupid, I thought. 1 chica at L'uomo or one chica where I was? Either wasy the finito result was going to be like the Mastercard advertisement: "priceless". How much dumb thinking can one man do before settling in on a chica!

At about this mind moment, a nice chica named Samantha approached me. She was about 5'1" tall with A cups. Tight body but not 18 year old tight, which is better at this point for me because I want a woman who knows what she is doing. Samantha wasn't beautiful and she wasn't overly pretty, but she was ok. A definite 7. I asked her one question. "What do you do? " She licked my ear and said "everything". I said to myself, what the hell?

I took Samantha to one of those small "suites" (clean room, bed, toilet with no door, and shower--no soap though! ). She said was 25, but she looked closer to 30-35--noting personal) She was really, really sweet and good at everything. Great BBBJ, great sex, worked hard to please, genuinely affectionate. She claims I made her cum "really", but who knows?

Although I had a great experience thanks to Samantha, I probably will pass on L'uomo in favor of 4 x 4 in the future. Overall I wasn't impressed with L'uomo. Could have just been the night or time I hit it.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
I am sure it is still a fun place, but it used to be better according to a few people I have spoken to. Ofcourse, I agree with this considering my last couple of visits to Brasil.

[JuiceGuy]

My wingman and I went to 4 x 4 last night around 7:00 or 7:30. There must have been 4 guys to every girl. The girls were 7-8's but there was no room to walk.

I was ready to write a bad report when I was accosted by a beautiful tiny 19 year old girl named Lua. We had been there about an hour and nothing was very inviting, mostly because we couldn't move and were surrounded by guys in robes, when she approached me. It was so packed that once she got me there was nothing I could do to get away from her. I was stuck. I was horny and things weren't looking very good. She only spoke Portuguese and I speak English, Spanish, Italian. There was absolutely no way to communicate whatsoever. So I did what needed to be done. I took her upstairs! Hey, she was hot and available, probably a high 8 or a low 9 and I already took the time to head to 4 x 4 in the first place so I might as well take advantage of the less than perfect situation.

My wingman grabbed her friend and I grabbed Lua and off we went. I spent the additional R50 for a Top Suite because I just wanted to see what it was like. Definitely worth the money in my opinion because it had a huge bed, shower, two sinks, and a toilet with a door. Mirrors completely surrounded the
entire room. Very clean all things considered.

So she starts with a BBBJ and I am beginning to think that this was not a bad choice at all. In fact, as I seem to continue to say on this trip, it was the best BBBJ I have EVER had. No doubt about it. This girl knew what to do. Then she went onto a total AR which was incredible. Hey, i wasn't taking her home to mom so she was doing all the right things.

On top she goes and she is watching her every move, and my reaction, the entire time. She actually looked like she was trying to study herself to better her game, which I don't even think is possible. This girl had it all, did it all, and moved it all. Every position I wanted. Greek included.

In bed she was a 10+. Definitely worth it all.

After we were done I went downstairs to meet my Wingman. Damn the environment had changed at 4 x 4. The room was PACKED WITH 9's and 10's and the ratios switched entirely. MY WM and I grabbed another drink and as we did they started the shower show. Three girls in a glass shower totally nude and wet. Then they started a little lesbian action. I figured it was a phony lesbian show, but upon moving closer realized that tongue was totally and completely licking EVERYTHING! What a country! Aint no chance of seeing this in the US. Now I have seen chicks blow darts and ping pong balls out of their pussies, but those acts do not even compare to hanging out in a room with all 9's and 10's in bras and something like panties but less, in a robe, watching 3 girls go down on each other!

I approached Lua to see if I could get her to come back to my hotel. Someone on the Board gave me a hint to put a pen and paper in my robe and I did. I wrote down my hotel address as she requested. Other than understanding that we both wanted to do it again at the hotel, we didnt understand anything else. We could not seal the deal unless we understood where and when. She asked me to wait for her amiga to come back downstairs and that didn't happen. We were getting frsutrated for about 30 minutes trying to communicate until I finally had to just say goodbye. She asked me to wait one more minute and I did. She pulled an American guy over to translate for us! I am sure he is a member of this Board but I didn't even get a chance to thank him before he was off. If anyone wants to take credit for being "that guy" THANK YOU.

So the deal is done and she is to show up at my hotel at midnight. I got back to the hotel at 11:30. Then I started thinking, "there is no way this chick is going to show up". I mean my hotel is about a good 30 minutes from 4 x 4. Midnight comes and no Lua. 12:05...I figure if she doesn't show by 1 AM I am either going to go to sleep and rest up for the next day or head to HELP for a drink. Wingman is down and done for the night.

12:15 and the telephone in the room rings. Security wants to inform me that I have a guest and they would like permission to escort her to my room. Pretty cool, I barely even have to get dressed. Security brings her up, and I have to say in a very non-judgmental way, and I sign for her like I would sign for a FedEx package.

We start all over again, but this time I can't finish. I am done. A week's worth of mongering is cathcing up with me very quickly. "I'm not worthy".

We fall asleep and awaken around noon. Quick shower, brush of the teeth, and we are at it again. She calls one of her amigas to translate and, through her friend, we arrange for her to come back tomorrow at noon. Gave her R300 and she was very happy. She must have paid R45 to get here alone.

Not a bad day's work for me. HIGHLY RECOMMEND 4 X 4 AND LUA to anyone.

She says she is not working tonight and I kind of doubt it. Doesn't make a difference to me, we are heading to 4 x 4 around 10:00 PM tonight to scout out more talent. Maybe she shows on Saturday maybe not. We will see...

[Dutch44]

Hi guys and girls,

Just a short message from me, Dutch. I am in Rio now, for a week and am enjoying it much, as always. As far as I'm concerned things really have not changed much over here, in Rio, over the past 2 years. Except perhaps the Euro-Reais exchange rate, which has become a little better. Unlike the US$. This week I decided to spend some more time at HELP and try my luck there.

I was there last wednesday night and the talent there was pretty good. Not many men and plenty women, so that helps. It also brings prices down a bit. I took a girl out for the whole night (R$250), her name was Patricia. A nice 'branco' girl, very natural and not 'professional'. By professional I mean a girl that has been doing the GDP thing for years and just wants things to move fast so she can go to the next client. Patricia stayed until 8h00 am and was very pleasant company. Today I met a beautiful dark skinned woman, Daiane, tall and slimlime. Thats my style. I do not particularly like the giant bunda thing. She asked 150 R$ for 2 hours. She spent two hours at my apartment. What I like about HELP is that you can choose and pick the garotas and can usually spend a whole night with them.

I am wondering if perhaps, since whether people like it or not, HELP is an essential part of RIO's nightlife, HELP deserves to have it's own thread in the RIO part of his forum.

Just a thought. Anybody agrees?

Dutch44

[Sperto]

I am wondering if perhaps, since whether people like it or not, HELP is an essential part of RIO's nightlife, HELP deserves to have it's own thread in the RIO part of his forum.
Just a thought. Anybody agrees?
IMHO I can't see why Help is an essential part of Rio's nightlife? Help might be an essential part for newbies and Copa-mongers who don't mind overpaying.

What essential information could there be to report about Help? Anybody who have been there once gets a good idea how it works. Personal experiences with Help-girls doesn't really contribute to any essential information helpful to other mongers.

[Sperto]

Casas de Massagem and Fast-Sex in Rio, that would be an useful and very valuable thread. I don't mean the big expensive termas, those are already so easy to find, but all the cheaper joints.

There are so much good-value sex to be found in Rio, let say in the category R$ 20-70. The majority of these places are very anonymous and sometimes hard to find. New places pop up all the time and old places disappear.

A thread with updated info on these casas would be very valuable for any Rio-monger who doesn't restrict his mongering to Help, MP, Balcony and upscale termas.

Just a suggestion...

[Oralover]

Casas de Massagem and Fast-Sex in Rio, that would be an useful and very valuable thread. I don't mean the big expensive termas, those are already so easy to find, but all the cheaper joints.

There are so much good-value sex to be found in Rio, let say in the category R$ 20-70. The majority of these places are very anonymous and sometimes hard to find. New places pop up all the time and old places disappear.

A thread with updated info on these casas would be very valuable for any Rio-monger who doesn't restrict his mongering to Help, MP, Balcony and upscale termas.

Just a suggestion...Do you have any reports on such places. I must admit that as a newbie to brazil, I love the terma scene. It's just different and fun for me. But it would be great to have more info on other options, especially daytime options. A nice morning massage for example.

The only thing that I know of it call in services, and I am very weary of bait and switch.

[Rio Bob]

Casas de Massagem and Fast-Sex in Rio, that would be an useful and very valuable thread. I don't mean the big expensive termas, those are already so easy to find, but all the cheaper joints.

There are so much good-value sex to be found in Rio, let say in the category R$ 20-70. The majority of these places are very anonymous and sometimes hard to find. New places pop up all the time and old places disappear.

A thread with updated info on these casas would be very valuable for any Rio-monger who doesn't restrict his mongering to Help, MP, Balcony and upscale termas.

Just a suggestion...

While this thread could be very useful for mongers to find these places that pop up all the time, I am wondering if the people who run them would mind this or not. I’m just thinking that the regular Termas have to pay the authorities to stay in business as the concept of a termas is illegal, pimping. So if you post the address here of a new small out of the way place then it would be easy for the authorities to find it too and make some arrests.

I’m just thinking about a friend of mine who has a friend who runs one of these casas in Copa, I’ve been there with him but he always tells me, don't tell anybody and don't speak English in the lobby or elevator because the presence of gringos can alert someone of something like this. This place when I am there has no gringo’s just Brazilian men sitting around in an apartment drinking beer and everyday different young fresh college girls show up from outside of the south zone via bus from over an hour away to make some bucks.

This of course is IMHO.

[Sperto]

pimping is illegal, but i doubt that these places are illegal.

i'm sure the police are aware of all these places, propably frequents them and sometimes run them as well (which is the case in some casas in vm). if they are not aware of them, they can just call the adds in the classificados or check out gpguia.

you're right that several of these places are not eager to have gringos visiting them as they want to keep a low profile. they are propably also busy with their brazilian clients.

a reason that some of these places keep a low profile is that they are located in office buildings (like edifício central). they don't want the crowd from buenos aires 85 and 113 visiting just for peeping. they have their clientele of guys working in centro coming in for a quickie on their lunchbreak.

anyway, all these useful addresses are posted anyway but get lost in all the chitchating in the rio thread. i think that these addresses are the most useful information presented in the brazil forum.

this of course is imho. :)

[JuiceGuy]

IMHO I can't see why Help is an essential part of Rio's nightlife? Help might be an essential part for newbies and Copa-mongers who don't mind overpaying.

What essential information could there be to report about Help? Anybody who have been there once gets a good idea how it works. Personal experiences with Help-girls doesn't really contribute to any essential information helpful to other mongers.

I completely agree. HELP was horrible last night (Friday night). Same girls, same games. The only thing is, for newbies like me, it is very easy and stays open later than the Termas. HELP is a must see, but the girls can not match the Termas in quality, selection, or attitude. At least that has been my experience...

[Rio Bob]

IMHO I can't see why Help is an essential part of Rio's nightlife? Help might be an essential part for newbies and Copa-mongers who don't mind overpaying.

What essential information could there be to report about Help? Anybody who have been there once gets a good idea how it works. Personal experiences with Help-girls doesn't really contribute to any essential information helpful to other mongers.


Last week Donnie D posted pictures of Julianna, the one with the big real ones. Red Alert said he had been with her too and works hard for the money. I have seen this girl in Help and around and because she really isn't the type I go for I never considered her. Now based upon these two gents experience I might talk to her next time I see her and see what it's all about. This is good information.

Everybody has a different mongering style, we have all gone over this thousands of times before. I don't think Help should get it's own thread but it should get more respect, LOL. I personally don't like mongering during the day, Rio is just a vacation for me, I take others during the year too. What I like to do on vacation is go to the beach during the day, swim, exercise, drink beer and maybe do some sightseing. When the day is over I get ready for a nice dinner and then I like to go out to a club and look for a lady to take home. Can't do this in centro but you can do it in Help. Plus you can find a girl to stay with you all night maybe 10 hours, have sex with her 3 times all for 200 reais, this is not quick sex or 40 minutes in a cabin but that's oK too.

Also I believe Help is seasonal, you're not going to get the quantity and the quality April through October. November thru March is when Help is at it's best, I'll be there right in the middle of it.

[Chris H]

Hi guys and girls,

Just a short message from me, Dutch. I am in Rio now, for a week and am enjoying it much, as always. As far as I'm concerned things really have not changed much over here, in Rio, over the past 2 years. Except perhaps the Euro-Reais exchange rate, which has become a little better. Unlike the US$. This week I decided to spend some more time at HELP and try my luck there.

I was there last wednesday night and the talent there was pretty good. Not many men and plenty women, so that helps. It also brings prices down a bit. I took a girl out for the whole night (R$250), her name was Patricia. A nice 'branco' girl, very natural and not 'professional'. By professional I mean a girl that has been doing the GDP thing for years and just wants things to move fast so she can go to the next client. Patricia stayed until 8h00 am and was very pleasant company. Today I met a beautiful dark skinned woman, Daiane, tall and slimlime. Thats my style. I do not particularly like the giant bunda thing. She asked 150 R$ for 2 hours. She spent two hours at my apartment. What I like about HELP is that you can choose and pick thearotas and can usually spend a whole night with them.

I am wondering if perhaps, since whether people like it or not, HELP is an essential part of RIO's nightlife, HELP deserves to have it's own thread in the RIO part of his forum.

Just a thought. Anybody agrees?

Dutch44


Gotta agree with what request for HELP to have its on thread.

Chris H

[Dutch44]

Well it is up to Jackson as well, to decide on a separate Rio-HELP thread. It is just an idea.

I think the quality at HELP varies, just like the quality at the TERMAS vary. There are good and bad times everywhere. A lot of the Termas girls go to HELP in the weekend by the way. So I can realy say that the HELP girls are always 100% different from the Termas girls.

I still regularly find a gem at HELP, and a TLN at 150-200 is still possible. The prices did do up, the asking rate now is 300-400 R$. But the girls know they will get less.

Anyway, it is just a thought. I look forward to your feedback.

Dutch44

[Madd Love]

Personally I think Brazil has become over rated, this is just my opinion. There are beautiful woman but with the Brazilian Real getting stronger with no end in sightand I think by next year the rate will be some where around 1.50, and each time I visit Rio I see the same faces with the exception of a few new ones. The woman ask for too much and even at lower prices you can get hot woman in Colombia, Thailand, Mexico, DR etc sometimes even better.

But I am not knocking Brazil. Brazil has a lot of beautiful woman as well, but Brazil has become over rated.

[Member #4378]

Well it is up to Jackson as well, to decide on a separate Rio-HELP thread. It is just an idea.

I think the quality at HELP varies, just like the quality at the TERMAS vary. There are good and bad times everywhere. A lot of the Termas girls go to HELP in the weekend by the way. So I can realy say that the HELP girls are always 100% different from the Termas girls.

I still regularly find a gem at HELP, and a TLN at 150-200 is still possible. The prices did do up, the asking rate now is 300-400 R$. But the girls know they will get less.

Anyway, it is just a thought. I look forward to your feedback.

Dutch44

On weekends, one can also find "visiting girls" from different parts of Brazil who come Help for fun. I have been lucky with those on several occasions. This has been mentioned in this forum.

[Dutch44]

Hi Dimension,


On weekends, one can also find "visiting girls" from different parts of Brazil who come Help for fun. I have been lucky with those on several occasions. This has been mentioned in this forum.

Yes, I have had the same experience. Last year when I was here I met a beautiful student from Bahia at Help. She was here just a few weeks, to earn some exta money for herself. She was good looking smart girl, very natural and even a little shy. I had a great (last) night with her, the day before I left.

So HELP attracts all kinds of garotas. But I do feel it is a place where there is plenty going on. Even just to go there and watch the scene is a fun experience.

Anyway HELP does serve as a fine start for beginners. Just as long as they know they should not throw money at these ladies. Just stick with 150-200 R$ for a few hours (or TLN) and you (we) will be fine.

Anyway, I am in Rio now, and will go to HELP tonight. We'll see. Because it is saturday night, I expect quite a few Termas girls there this time. (Many Termas close in the weekend, so the girls go elsewhere)

Anybody else with suggestions for a Rio-HELP thread?

Dutch44

[Ezinho]

Well it is up to Jackson as well, to decide on a separate Rio-HELP thread. It is just an idea.

I think the quality at HELP varies, just like the quality at the TERMAS vary. There are good and bad times everywhere. A lot of the Termas girls go to HELP in the weekend by the way. So I can realy say that the HELP girls are always 100% different from the Termas girls.

I still regularly find a gem at HELP, and a TLN at 150-200 is still possible. The prices did do up, the asking rate now is 300-400 R$. But the girls know they will get less.

Anyway, it is just a thought. I look forward to your feedback.

Dutch44
Forgive me for asking this, but why does Help Discoteca need it's own thread here on the ISG? I don't get it. It's not even mentioned on here that much anymore. Anyways, Help already has it's own website, and on there, they have a discussion board where you can post specifically about all-things Help. If you love Help that much, just go to their official web site.

A better idea, IMHO, would be to break up the Rio de Janeiro reports section into two sub-threads: Rio de Janeiro-Copa reports (or maybe Zona Sul reports), and Rio de Janeiro-Centro reports. The termas vs. Help arguments that usually play out on here are interesting, but I would say that it's more of a Centro vs. Copa battle than Help vs. the termas. I think it's safe to assume that most of the guys that are into the Av. Atlântica scene also check out the Zona Sul termas. But they probably have little-to-no interest in Centro, whether they be the termas like 4X4 or 65, or even the lower-priced places like the aptos or the boites in Praça Mauá. Likewise, guys that like Centro rarely make the trek into Copa to go to the discos and cafes.

So, I think two sub-threads for Rio de Janeiro (Centro and Copa) would make more sense than an all-Help thread.

[Tercar 66]

For my trip to Rio in mid october, I tried to contact Hotel Princess Copacabana. It seems quite expensive. Can some one PM or post names of some comparative cheaper GF hotels or furnished appts for 4 nights. How are my chances if I book hotels directly after my arrival.

[Sperto]

A better idea, IMHO, would be to break up the Rio de Janeiro reports section into two sub-threads: Rio de Janeiro-Copa reports (or maybe Zona Sul reports), and Rio de Janeiro-Centro reports.
Interesting idea. What if you have a report about Tijuca, Glória, Niterói, Recreio or Vila Valqueire? Where will this report go? Centro?

The only things to report about Copa is Help, MP, Balcony, MC, L'umo, some mini-termas, the stripjoints on Prado Junior and ho-beach. That really ain't that much to put in a thread.

I still think a thread Casas de Massagem and Fast-Sex, <R$ 70, would be more valuable.

Maybe it's better to let the forum be the way it's now? There ain't that many of us reporting about budget-sex. There are already several threads that I guess nobody reads, KOS, Nibu, Macunaima, Comgo and Gringo Management Apartments.

[Trippleecks]

Tercar 66 .. try ken at www.ez-riorentals.com for an apartment in Rio.

[American Warrior]

Upon first reading whether there should be a thread for Help I was all for it, but than I realized I monger in all the spots from VM, Termas to Help. We are asking to much out of Jackson and others who help run this site. Guys lets just keep giving reports of Rio in Rio section. November can not come quick enough. But for Help mongers we need to get better at reporting the name of the girl and the price we paid.

[Coats001]

I completely agree. HELP was horrible last night (Friday night). Same girls, same games. The only thing is, for newbies like me, it is very easy and stays open later than the Termas. HELP is a must see, but the girls can not match the Termas in quality, selection, or attitude. At least that has been my experience...I pull a lot of girls from Help of atleast the same quality as any Termas garota. More over you can have them staying with you overnight for roughly the same amount of money you would be paying at the Termas, where you get only 40 to 60 minutes. And the night at Help Disco can be fun as well if you like to dance and flirt or just watch people and the garotas in perticular. If you hit it off with your garota your time together allready start there with dancing and drinking.

[Mexidan]

WOW, OMG! I love Brazil, I love Rio! Between Pattaya and Rio, I don’t know how mongers can travel anywhere else! Weeks later, I’m still in awe. OK, now for the trip report/how to guide.

Extra thank you to Ruffnutz and TicaFan for so much intel which came in extremely handy. Thank you to Travelboy for showing me around Ipanema. Also, Bwana Dik’s Rio Guide 2005 is a must read/have. CRT and CH were the two best boards for info. CRT guys gave me great advice here, and in-country there were CH guys everywhere who also lended a helping hand from time to time.

United Airlines Chicago (ORD) to Rio International (GIG) for $777. Rain delay equaled missed connection (UAL only has one flight per day from Sao Paulo to Rio). Transported by United to Domestic Airport (Santos Dumont - SDU), past the site of the recent plane crash, for a flight on TAM Airlines. The interesting thing with TAM is that, although your boarding pass shows an assigned seat number, it really isn’t an assigned seat. Seats are SWA style, first come, first serve. This made some tourists really upset when the front seats were taken by Brazilians this way, glad I met some Brazilians in the airport who took me under their wing for this flight.

Airport Transport. Do yourself a favor, TAKE THE BUS. It really is safe as can be and runs pretty regularly. The bus line to take to and from the airport is REAL BUS. The bus stop is right in front of the airport and a sign for REAL BUS stop is posted. It costs 6 Reals ($R6 ~ $3USD), the seats are very comfortable and the bus is air conditioned. When I was ready to get off, I told the bus driver, he pulled right over, and I walked a block to my apt. It is a lot better than paying a taxi driver ($R60). I took it to and from the airport and was very pleasantly surprised.

Accommodations. Went thru Gringo Management (www.gringomanagement.com/) originally for a nice 1 bedroom for $65 USD/night on Rua Paula Freitas. Had some struggles early on and eventually found new accommodations. However, Gringo Management and I have discussed this and I think I may give them a shot the NEXT TIME I GO! I spent the rest of my time in a place one minute a way from HELP DISCO and the beach for $75 USD/night. This place was great and the proximity worked out very nicely. I rented this place from Americoa Tours, and let me tell you, these guys here really are great and will tell you everything and anything you need about Rio. I cannot talk more highly about these guys, they really are awesome.

Transportation. When faced with the decision, if at all possible, DO NOT TAKE TAXIs. You always get the vibe that they are trying to rip you off, and they are extremely expensive. The bus system really is great there and will take you almost anywhere for ~($R2). There is also a van system that will take you to the same places for the same price. All these vehicles are well marked with the locations that they are going. These are also very safe, in fact I felt safer on the bus than I did the taxis. Also, the subway system is very good (www.metrorio.com.br/english). I took that to go to the soccer stadium, cathedral, and the Jesus Statute (with bus connection). You would be amazed how easy and inexpensive it is to use the public transportation here and how much money you can redirect toward other activities.

Copacabana v Ipanema. Yes, Ipanema is nice, it’s quieter and has a beautiful beach patronized by the more affluent of Brazilian society. However, I would never stay there. http://ipanema.com/ The energy and excitement of the people of Copacabana made Rio come alive. The moment you walked up to the beach, you already started smiling and looking around for the perfect spot (just dont let that be next to the rainbow flag section of the beach). So many beautiful women, all in thong bikinis, sunbathing. The section near Meia Pataca is where the working girls sit. Chairs for rent, I think it was $R10 for a long chair if I remember correctly. The guys renting the chairs will fight to rent to you, so make sure you tell them that you want the best place next to the hottest women or otherwise you will not go with them. They do pick great places (though never let them negotiate a price w a girl for you, they will add their markup fee for services rendered.)

Help Nightclub. http://www.discoteca-help.com Wow, Help is huge! Probably the size of Del Ray, BM, and KL combined. Every girl is a working girl. Prices ranged between $R150-400. Buy your entrance before midnight and save $R10. you can buy the entrance and then walk away to come back later, just hold on to the ticket. Drinks werent overly pricey for a discotec. You just have to prepay yourt drink tickets at designated cashiers before going to the bar for service. The stage seating area is not VIP, anyone can walk up there and grab a seat at one of 5 tables (which has its own waitstaff). Almost all the music is hip-hop and you hear the same songs over and over again in the same night. Avoid the Redbull-Vodka drinks the girls want, you will shoot your nightly budget fast on those. Outside of Help before midnight, there is a great restaraunt for food and pre-drinking. Girls are around there too, scouting in order to find someone without going into Help (women pay cover to enter Help, so it hits their bottom line too.) Never buy any woman's cover! Let them meet you inside if they want to go in. Once you buy it, they will move on to other guys inside, they are looking for the highest bidder afterall. At the end of the night, I had no problem walking home. There are K*D beggars around. Dont try to avoid them quietly. Scream at them to go away and shake your arms (like us latinos do) and they get the hint. Otherwise, there is no escaping them until you get into a cab. There are a lot more cops around which keeps people from out-and-out robbing you, but dont expect the cops to provide any extra protection. Many a-time I saw a Brazilian and drunk American get into it outside in front of the cops, and it usually ended the same, Brazilian walking away screaming and American walking away with a bloody nose.

Termas. Termas are awesome and were my primary source of mongering. Cover charges were around $R50 and in most places credit cards were accepted. Go in, get naked and into a robe and flip flops, then enter the bar of ladies. Watch the girls dance and when you are ready to talk to one, smile and wave her on over. Most Terma girls spoke some english. I would order up a couple of drinks, make out with the girls, get a handjob under my robe, and then finally when I couldnt take it anymore, up to the room. Usually around $R200 for girl and room for 40 minutes. Afterward, hit the shower and sauna, go back to the bar and look for something new. Id sometimes do 5 or more hours in one Terma, session usually 2-3 times. As for pictures, the staff doesnt allow cameras, so sneak it into the robe and negotiate it with the girl. They usually said yes to me as long as i promised that the pics wouldnt make their way to the internet.

My favorite Terma by far was Luomo. Located near the subway, its about a 10-15 minute walk from the beach. Also, every night they had an all you can eat buffet of local food, and the waitstaff always took care of everything I needed. For the first few days in Rio, the only place I ate, showered, and did personal hygene was in Luomo. It was great, and there were with 30 women or so to choose from, all of them were beautiful. Lesbo and strip shows nightly was a nice feature. http://www.luomo.com.br/

Second fav was 4x4. Located in the central, the bus ($R3) was a great way to get there. Things are a lil bit cheaper here, but get there early, because by 6 there are so many people there that its hard to find a seat, and with so many people standing it just doesnt give the comfort feel of other places.

Not impressed with the other termas, just didnt have the great vibe of the other two places I frequented. http://www.solarium.com.br/ http://www.termasmontecarlo.com.br/

Escorts. Widely available. Tried the most popular, Karlas models http://www.karlamodels.net/topo.htm Girl came to my room within a half hour. Wasnt impressed with the service, very mechanical and the pics from the site are definately touched up. Also, they now add on the taxi fee of the girl, $R30. Knew that there were better ways to spend my money. However, here is the most complete listing of escorts for Rio that I found http://travelsexguide.tv/brazil/rioescorts.htm

Non-Mongering. The Jesus statue is great. http://www.corcovado.com.br/ Cost $R3.50 on the train w/ bus transfer for a ride to the hill. Met by a Govt tourism official who details the ways to get up there. For $R30, you can wait for the cable car that takes you straight to the statue or for $R50 you can take a pre-designated taxi, the drive stops at 3 points along the hill for siteseeing and then finally the statue. Driver will stay with you the whole time and you pay at the end. Site was great, its one of the New 7 Wonders of the World.

Brazilian Soccer is crazy, went to the Maracana soccer stadium on the train $R3 which dropped me off minutes from the stadium. Seats 180,000, most of which seemed full. Fans are truly fanatical, people bring their own fireworks to the stadium and set them off randomly. Chants the whole game, gorgeous women cheering on their team, dancing, screaming was awesome. Beer was about $R3 and the same for Hot Dogs at the game. There is not event in the US that has as much fan energy as this game did (and it was just a regular game, not like it was the national team or something).

Miscellaneous. National beer is Brahma. At the bar, it runs about $R4. Where available, draft beer is cheaper, called Chopp (pronounced Sh-o-ppe). Citibank has some locations here for banking purposes. McDonalds, KFC and Dominos are available if you have the taste for American food. Credit cards widely accepted, though 5 places didn’t accept Visa.

Regrets.
1. I didnt hit any apartment-Sex parlors. Gotta make time for that next time.
2. Explore Ipanema more, have greater confidence talking to non-working Brazilian girls.
3. Dont waste money on taxis.
4. Experience a few more sober sunrises on the beach, they truly are beautiful.

Lessons Learned:

1. Make sure you hit the international Duty Free before traveling to the domestic terminal to buy alcohol. You don’t want to miss out!

2. Use public transportation, don’t take taxis. When walking at night, walk with someone or at least walk into another group going your way.

3. Don’t talk Spanish unless it is very, very good and has a latin accent, and even then expect some difficulty communicating. Portuguese may be similar, but if you sound like an American talking it, it will just get confusing. Otherwise, learn some Portuguese or just find someone that speaks English.

4. Buy food and take it with you before you go check-in back at the airport to leave Rio/Sao Paulo. Once you pass security, there is a very small snack shop (Reals only accepted), but otherwise no restaurants or drink machines. In Sao Paulo Airport, there is a small snack shop (cash only) but again very small and they run out of things.

5. Finally, respect this country. Its not America, its Brazil. Act as a graceful guest and you will be treated greatly. Act as a money flaunting, foul-mouthed American and all you will leave with is half-assed sessions and empty pockets.
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[Madd Love]

Been with this garota Roseni a few times extreme profesional GDP, Met her at help two years ago I also had a few sessions in her apartment when I see her in Rio, believe she is married to guy in United states. Also had alone sessions with her friends that are real profesinal GDP's. Love Brazil love the woman. But wouldn't marry them. I'll be back to hoe town for about three months.

The girl on the balcony was a girl I met Mia petaca.

Hoe beach here I come!

[Kcrl01]

Madd L,

Here's another foto of the same chick.

[El Austriaco]

Transportation. When faced with the decision, if at all possible, DO NOT TAKE TAXIs. You always get the vibe that they are trying to rip you off, and they are extremely expensive. The bus system really is great there and will take you almost anywhere for ~($R2). There is also a van system that will take you to the same places for the same price. All these vehicles are well marked with the locations that they are going. These are also very safe, in fact I felt safer on the bus than I did the taxis. Also, the subway system is very good (www.metrorio.com.br/english). I took that to go to the soccer stadium, cathedral, and the Jesus Statute (with bus connection). You would be amazed how easy and inexpensive it is to use the public transportation here and how much money you can redirect toward other activities.
First of all, thanks for a very detailed report of the type we all love to read. Lots of good information. Good job, man.

I don't know whether this was your first trip, but anyhow, the part you wrote about taxis, I am not sure whether I can fully agree with.

True, taxis are NOT essential for everything in Rio, especially once you figure out the subway system (very easy, I agree), and the bus system (not so easy, especially if one doesn't speak Portuguese). But IMHO, taxis sure are essential for travel at night, and even more so to and from the usual P4P hangouts, unless you are a very seasoned Rio veteran and know perfectly well what you are doing. I also have to disagree that cabs are extremely expensive in Rio... certainly not compared to Western countries. And given the cost of traveling to and staying in Rio these days, I think that the additional cost of taking cabs to ensure one's safety is nothing more than peanuts in the overall scheme of things. But perhaps that's just me.

Insofar as ripoffs by cab drivers, I honestly think that Rio cab drivers are nothing better, but certainly also nothing worse than cab drivers pretty much anywhere I have been. First and foremost, Rio cabs use a meter, so other than doctoring the meter or using a higher flag (there are two flags Rio cabs may use, bandeira 1 and bandeira 2), there is hardly any way to rip you off a whole lot. Cab drivers can drive around in circles, yes, like anywhere else, but to anyone just somewhat familiar with Rio's geography, such an attempt would be easily detected. I see more ripoff attempts by cab drivers in the Mexican city where I live (where cab drivers don't use a meter), and I don't even want to start about Mexico City cabbies, for example, so IMHO, Rio really isn't all that bad.

As to cab safety, there have been numerous reports about tourists getting robbed on the way into town from the airport, yes, as several people (including myself) have reported here on ISG, too, so I agree that the bus might be a good option. Personally, nothing has ever happened to me in cabs anywhere in Rio, whereas I have heard quite a number of stories of buses getting held up in all parts of Rio. In addition, figuring out the bus/van system can be a challenge unless one is quite familiar with different areas of Rio, conversant in Portuguese, and not afraid of getting lost sometimes. You are absolutely right about the Rio metro, no doubt about it: it is very safe, easy to use, and very convenient.

For mongers who spend most of their time in Copacabana and at the usual P4P hangouts there, I insist that it is imperative to take cabs to and from there at night at ALL times. All these areas (around Help, especially between Rua Djalma Ulrich and Miguel Lemos, from Av. Atlantica past Aires Saldanha to Av. Nossa Senhora de Copacabana; on the Leme end the entire area between Roland Carvalho/Praca do Lido to Princesa Isabel, again from the orla up to the height of Barbarellas) are teeming with thieves and potential assailants. Especially watch out for the teenage drug addicts, who enjoy a very dubious reputation among Copacabana residents.

And of course, it's always worth repeating that it is NOT a good idea to take any of the "fixed-fare" cabs offering their services just outside of Help, for example. The last time I was in Help (last year), they had a sign specifically saying that neither of these cabs has any "official" status and they are not associated with them in any fashion whatsoever. As a matter of fact, they are all ripoff wildcat cabs, and there is simply no reason to use any of them. Just say "no, thanks" and hail down a passing cab on Av. Atlantica (rather than on Rua Miguel Lemos or Rua Djalma Ulrich), with tons of people there and plenty of illumination. DON'T walk into the sidestreets leading up to Av. Nossa Senhora de Copacabana, either. Whatever cab you take, make sure they use the meter and reset it to the minimum fare before taking off.

EA

[Jan 156]

Hey, Mexidan! Great report. Lots of very useful info and well-written. Hope lots of people find it helpful.

Two tiny points I'd quibble on -

Duty free - I'd suggest getting your alcohol in a supermarket before going to the airport. You'll pay a few real for a litre instead of much, much higher airport prices.

Food at the airport - I agree and usually take snacks with me, just keeping enough for a coffee or something. I've eaten pretty good steak there though. Maybe it depends which terminal you're in. In Terminal One there's a half-decent restaurant. From memory, it's at teh far end of the touristsy duty-free shops.

Great post though. Pleased you had a good time, and hope to see you posting again.

[RioFavelaboy]

Been with this garota Roseni a few times extreme profesional GDP, Met her at help two years ago I also had a few sessions in her apartment when I see her in Rio, believe she is married to guy in United states. Also had alone sessions with her friends that are real profesinal GDP's. Love Brazil love the woman. But wouldn't marry them. I'll be back to hoe town for about three months.

The girl on the balcony was a girl I met Mia petaca.

Hoe beach here I come!

Man Josie has been around for ages, I too have had the pleasure of her services at my apt and at hers, she did have some real cool friends too and yes you are right they are professional GDP'S and they are fair with pricing as well, the whole crew will throw you a bone and treat you good, duplas and all.

Had a dupla at her apt with her and one of the roomates it was great and josie has a pretty good cbbbj.

Yes she is married too, I don't know what this particular guy was thinking getting his GDP wife an apartment so close to HOE Beach and Help while he's living in the states and she's living in Rio.

But Josie is a true hoe this is her life and what she loves she will probably be a GDP until the day she dies, the girl is a hard core GDP but good people.

Here's my picture contribution of her and one of her friends I sessioned with I think her name is Raquel,I think she is married now too.

If I can locate the pics of the other members of her crew I post them.

[Jan 156]

i don't know whether this was your first trip, but anyhow, the part you wrote about taxis, i am not sure whether i can fully agree with. imho, taxis sure are essential for travel at night, and even more so to and from the usual p4p hangouts, unless you are a very seasoned rio veteran and know perfectly well what you are doing. i also have to disagree that cabs are extremely expensive in rio... certainly not compared to western countries. and given the cost of traveling to and staying in rio these days, i think that the additional cost of taking cabs to ensure one's safety is nothing more than peanuts in the overall scheme of things. but perhaps that's just me. i have heard quite a number of stories of buses getting held up in all parts of rio. in addition, figuring out the bus/van system can be a challenge unless one is quite familiar with different areas of rio, conversant in portuguese, and not afraid of getting lost sometimes.

rofl! we'll agree to differ - i think there's a lot of personal taste here but i agree with mexidan 100%. true, taxis are not *that* expensive, but if you travel about the city a lot it amounts to quite a bit of money you could be spending on p4p. safety wise, they're usually my least preferred option for travelling from downtown. i've seen plenty of accidents bewteen buses and taxis and taxis, of course, come off worst. the taxis drive at crazy speeds on the main roads in and out of town and many of them would not win medals for roadworthiness. although some buses have been held up - eg on vermelha - i don't imagine it happens a lot on the main route in and out of town. if it does, i still don't feel safer in a taxi and don't think a taxi offers any guarantee. they speed up at red lights precisely to avoid robbers. if someone has a go at a bus, they have to both stop the bus and then get inside, and the buses are pretty solid machines.

you don't need to be able to say anything (in any language) to get on a bus. you need to have the correct fare ready (displayed on the front) and know where to get off. you present the money and go through the turnstile on the bus. if you use a van, you will however need to at least be able to say your destination understandably and maybe a little bit more than that. (you should also take care on buses to remember your manners - it is customary to offer a seat to the old, infirm and persons carrying bags).

knowing which bus to get is not that hard for main routes. the destination is marked on the front. many bus stops have a route list too against the numbers of the buses that use that stop. going into town (eg for downtown knock-shops / 4x4) you can usually spot one that has centro on it. coming back, many copa buses will have 'copacabana' in big letters on the front.

one place i would agree that you should get taxis (although i rarely do) is from help - preferably by walking round the corner past the restaurant or getting any taxi that isn't immediately offered or front of line and agrees to using the meter. they don't drive at crazy speeds in copa, just coming back from centro. once you get better at spotting and avoiding trouble, you'll need less taxis in copa, but for a beginner they are a good idea.

metros are 100% safe and very tourist friendly, but buses are much better than people from a 'non-bus society' generally give them credit for imho.

[El Austriaco]

True, taxis are not *that* expensive, but if you travel about the city a lot it amounts to quite a bit of money you could be spending on P4P.
True, if you spend lots of time in Rio (like you and myself have done, months at a time), the cost of taking cabs everywhere adds up quickly, especially for longer trips into less touristy parts of town. My remarks were intended for people spending less time in Rio, perhaps just a few days or a couple of weeks, and prefer to spend most of their time within Copacabana and Ipanema, say. In that respect, my remarks were also meant as a different take on Mexidian's recommendation "2. Use public transportation, don’t take taxis. When walking at night, walk with someone or at least walk into another group going your way", which seems to suggest to taxis are really uncessary altogether in Rio. That's what I disagreed with, because IMHO, it's not a good idea to walk a lot at night unless you really know what you are doing (like you certainly do).

I don't know, I just can't see the rationale behind paying R$ 150.00 to R$ 400.00 for ST/TLN with a Help girl, plus the Help entrance fee, possibly dine at not-so-cheap Av. Atlantica restaurants... and then try to save R$ 10 or less for a cab from/to Help to or from most Copacabana hotels. Even more so when you are traveling with someone or in a group, where splitting the cost of a cab reduces the expense to almost nothing... much better than walking in a group, IMHO.


Safety wise, they're usually my least preferred option for travelling from Downtown.
Like you, I also don't use cabs when traveling from or to Centro (why, with the metro so convenient, and I know where I am going). Like you, I think there are two main aspects to safety: the risk of getting involved in an accident, and the risk of getting robbed. Personally, I was involved in two minor cab accidents. The first time, the cab I was in got bumped by a bus, the second time, by another cab. As to the risk of getting robbed, well, it can happen anywhere in Rio, and buses sure do get held up, too.


You don't need to be able to say anything (in any language) to get on a bus. You need to have the correct fare ready (displayed on the front) and know where to get off. You present the money and go through the turnstile on the bus. If you use a van, you will however need to at least be able to say your destination understandably and maybe a little bit more than that. (You should also take care on buses to remember your manners - it is customary to offer a seat to the old, infirm and persons carrying bags).

Well, knowing where to get off (or where you can get off) is precisely the problem if you are not already familiar with the bus route. Even if a bus says Centro or Copacabana, how do you know that the bus will go anywhere close to where you want to go unless you have done it before and don't feel comfortable asking because you don't speak Portuguese? So I believe that in that case, the first time(s) you go, it might not be a bad idea to take a cab to at least familiarize somewhat with the surroundings.

[Bravo]

Man Josie has been around for ages, I too have had the pleasure of her services at my apt and at hers, she did have some real cool friends too and yes you are right they are professional GDP'S and they are fair with pricing as well, the whole crew will throw you a bone and treat you good, duplas and all.

Had a dupla at her apt with her and one of the roomates it was great and josie has a pretty good cbbbj.

Yes she is married too, I don't know what this particular guy was thinking getting his GDP wife an apartment so close to HOE Beach and Help while he's living in the states and she's living in Rio.

But Josie is a true hoe this is her life and what she loves she will probably be a GDP until the day she dies, the girl is a hard core GDP but good people.

Here's my picture contribution of her and one of her friends I sessioned with I think her name is Raquel,I think she is married now too.

If I can locate the pics of the other members of her crew I post them.


Supposedly, Rosi has left Brasil to join her American husband in Houston. Took almost a year between the time she got married and when she finally received her visa. Unfortunately, her husband is a really nice guy who had no idea that she was working the entire time, while they were waiting for her visa.

One thing I have to say about Rosi, she knows her selling points! Even though she didnt have much of a bunda, she had outstanding tits and she would have them front and center! Decent service and she was cool with pics, hell, she used to parade around topless on the beach all the time.

Yes, Raquel is married to an American. He has been trying to get her to the states for the past year and a half, but she keeps sabotaging the situation. She prefers hoeing in Copa to moving to America. I hear that her and Rosi put on a hell of a show together (Raquel is still in Copa but I think Rosi is in Houston now)

[Kcrl01]

Raquel before she put on the weight.

[Dutch44]

Hi Coats,


I pull a lot of girls from Help of atleast the same quality as any Termas garota. More over you can have them staying with you overnight for roughly the same amount of money you would be paying at the Termas, where you get only 40 to 60 minutes. And the night at Help Disco can be fun as well if you like to dance and flirt or just watch people and the garotas in perticular. If you hit it off with your garota your time together allready start there with dancing and drinking.

I am in Rio now and have both good and bad experiences with Help. (I will go there again tonight) However the same goes for Termas and Escorts. Lets not quite a few of the girls at help are the same as at the Termas/Escorts. Some termas girls go to Help in the weekend. I agree with you, that when you find a gem at Help, which is not too hard, you can spend the whole night with her in your apartment/hotel, rather than just 40 minutes in a cabine. Termas are nice, but relatively expensive. Help girls start at 150 R$ for several hours, sometimes even the whole night.

So that is not so bad.

cheers,
Dutch44

[Professor 1]

For my trip to Rio in mid october, I tried to contact Hotel Princess Copacabana. It seems quite expensive. Can some one PM or post names of some comparative cheaper GF hotels or furnished appts for 4 nights. How are my chances if I book hotels directly after my arrival.Try the Hotel Aproador. It is quite reasonable, and a GF place.

[Ryjerrob]

I am in Rio now and have both good and bad experiences with Help. (I will go there again tonight) However the same goes for Termas and Escorts. Lets not quite a few of the girls at help are the same as at the Termas/Escorts. Some termas girls go to Help in the weekend.


In my years of visiting Rio, I have yet to make it to the termas. I have called the agencies, and have had success. Help can be a lot of fun, it just depends on your mood, and what you're looking for. I imagine the termas are a great spot to have some fun also. In fact I plan on having my cherry popped this December. I think some people just don't venture out, and think Help is the end all, be all. It's not. Help serves a purpose, but so does the beach, VM, termas, agencies, and the mall. It's all about what your mood is on any given day. My last three week trip I was in Help about four times. It can get real old, real fast, especially when you're being stalked.

ryjer

[Madd Love]

Just wanted to add, I personally don't think Rose does not give good bbj, and you are right that she has just one selling point.

Also that is why I want to stress you shouldn't be sending these woman money, because they are still down here hoe ing , themselves with other men. You send these woman money and gifts and marry them and they are doing the same thing. they keep it strictly business from the time you meet them until the time you marry them. Its possible you may find a few that won't keep it business with you,

I have never been to Carnival because I heard the prices are crazy and a lot of competition. that picture does look like Rosenii

Can't wait to get back to Rio, will be there for about two months.

[Antgreg]

Hi Mexidan,

Do you have a number or webstite for Americoa Tours?

Very good report.

[Traveller08]

When I was in Rio de Janeiro about 4 years ago, I got the contact to Claudia, an older woman living in an apartment at the shopping complex between Rua Sigureido Campos and Fernando Magalhaes. She introduced me to several very nice amateur garotas - of course getting a kickback from the girls.

Does anyone know if she is still working and has maybe her adress/tel. number?

[Hojeobrigado]

http://www.amerioca.net/


Hi Mexidan,

Do you have a number or webstite for Americoa Tours?

Very good report.

[Tercar 66]

My flight arrives Sao at 6.30 pm there is a flight from the same airport to Rio at 9.30 PM . How secure is travelling late at night from Airport to hotel. If secure enough then I will skip my one night stay in Sao

[Oralover]

Heading back to Rio tonight (wednesday) and fly home on Sunday. I don't get in until late, so tonight I will probably try L'oumo or Centaurus, then may venture into Help for the first time. Will report on my findings.

Is any one else in Rio now?

[Rio Bob]

When I was in Rio de Janeiro about 4 years ago, I got the contact to Claudia, an older woman living in an apartment at the shopping complex between Rua Sigureido Campos and Fernando Magalhaes. She introduced me to several very nice amateur garotas - of course getting a kickback from the girls.

Does anyone know if she is still working and has maybe her adress/tel. number?

I have been here too, some of the girls were very nice. The older woman is a bit of a Kook but very nice. I'm pretty sure she is still in business as she has been in business for over 40 years. Personally like I said before, even though this was a good place at times, I prefer to do my business at night so these places mean nothing to me. Also the woman encourages you to do your business there in her apartment but i always did take out with the girls.

[Don Papi]

http://www.amerioca.net/

[Toto001]

Hi everybody,

I have been reading the posts for Rio and think I got already tons of information from it! Thanks to all that contributed.

However, I will be traveling to Rio (Copacabana) in November and I am still undecided which hotel to take.

In my dreams I am thinking of a directly located at the beach with a room that has view on the beach and also a balcony. Ideally they would also have a nice pool area with lots of hot chicks around. I will be able to pay something like 150 $ per night. Also it would help, if the hotel is girl friendly.

Also I must admit, that I only like few Garotas posted in the photo section. I am more into tits than the ass and Giselle Buendchen would make up a 10 in my eyes. I hope to find a girl early 20's, not too dark, with slim body, nice breasts and long hair. ;.) Would rather love to stay with her for a couple of days, than joking around.

Any recommendations? ! ;.)

Thanks!

[Euro100]

This may have happened to you: You fly into Rio from the US or Europe and arrive in the morning, but your connecting flight to some other domestic destination in Brazil leaves late in the evening. Or you have come into Rio on a domestic flight in the morning, but your flight to the US only departs in the evening. What do you do with the 8 to 10 hours of layover? Here is a suggestion …

I arrived at 11 am in Rio, cleared passport controls, picked up my luggage, and cleared customs. Right before you exit the restricted area, there area a bunch of booths of taxi companies with pretty girls. Ignore them! Instead I went to the ugly guy with the Real Ónibus sign. He told me the bus picks up right outside, and that the price to downtown is R3.20. He also told me where the luggage lockers are (upstairs on the departure level in the green area of terminal 1). The luggage guys told me all of their (cheap) lockers are full, but that I could check my luggage with them (R15 total). OK! Then I went downstairs to the arrival level again and picked up the bus with the Real name on the side. (Careful: there are two busses; the other costs more, R6, and moves past centro to zona sul, too.) I had to wait about 10 minutes for the air-conditioned 30-seat bus, and off we went.

35 minutes later the bus made the 90-degree right turn from R. President Vargas into Rio Branco. Time to pull the cord. The bus pulled over, and I exited at Rio Branco and R. Buenos Aires. This is only half a block away from 4x4!!! It was just after 1 pm, and since 4x4 opens at 2 pm I decided to walk around a bit. I picked up a couple of shirts at the market above the Uruguaiana metro station, and then had lunch a Festival, a kilo-place on Rua de Alfandega, two doors away from 502. The food was OK, but not spectacular. On the other hand, I ate a lot; and my bill was only R12.

2:15 pm: Showtime. I walked the half block to 4x4, went upstairs and changed into my robe, then went up one more floor to the shower area. I needed to clean up from the overnight flight. Didn’t bring toiletries, but that doesn’t matter. They provide single-use razors and toothbrushes, soap, toothpaste, shampoo, deodorant, even hair gel. 30 minutes later I was restored to battle condition and felt I could now handle the onslaught of bunda in the main boite.

I entered the boite and counted over 30 girls (all in skimpy bikinis) already in attendance. Maybe 5 other guys. Little euro wanted to basically f@ck all of the girls. (I needed a really good experience after the disappointment in Oase in Germany a couple of days before, http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=651287&postcount=1769. “You have come to the right place, my man”, I heard a little voice in the back of my head say.) To my amazement, this time the brain retained control of the body, though, and I ordered a caipi and sat down near the DJ booth. “Scan the offerings, and don’t rush” I kept telling myself.

But of course that resistance lasts only so long in the avalanche of ready-and-willing-and eminently-humpable-honeys. And the one who broke the dam was Crystal, a blond and tanned sweetie with a flawless smile. She was just a bit heavier than I usually prefer, but something inside me told me that she would be GFE+. I bought her a caipi, and we made out for quite a while. Then I took the 1-hour suite (THANKS, Bubba!) and gave Crystal a try. First, she took a shower, and I watched. Then we went through the first condom rather quickly. Well, it had been a while, and the flight had been long …

I washed up in the shower, and Crystal’s oral efforts got little euro back to life in short order. I decided that a little DATY would be in order, and she responded favorably. So I increased my efforts, and used my thumb to aid in the project. She responded by sucking the heck out of little euro, pretending to be a vacuum cleaner. We stayed at it for another 5 minutes, and my persistence was rewarded by her exploding. I could have shot my load, too, but heroically held back to prolong a little bit more.

I gave her 5 minutes to collect herself a bit, and then asked her to put a condom on me again. Cowgirl, mish, doggie, spoon, and finally mish again with her legs over my shoulders. When I saw her face contort in pleasure and her eyes starting to roll back, I couldn’t hold it any more. YEAH BABY; THAT’S WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT!

The phone rang, and we ignored it, just lying there and cuddling. Crystal yelled something through the door, about 3 minutes later someone out there yelled something. Chrystal shrugged her shoulders. … and went into the shower … I rinsed off, too, and we exited the room.

On the way down I mutered “only in Rio” to myself. The guy in front of me on the stairs agrees with me. Let’s call him “Chuck” to protect his secret identity! Chuck also had a layover and followed the same game plan as I did. So we hung out for a while and compared notes.

It was now past 5 pm, and the boite was a lot fuller (80 girls, I would guess) and louder. A few of the girls started to dance. Adriana (I had her three months ago: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=607674&postcount=3652) spotted me and came over. She remembered that I had given her my headband. (Note in passing: it’s amazing what a lasting effect a little trinket like this can have!). Beijos and a bit of ass-grabbing, laughter, she speaking in Portuguese and I in English, nobody understanding what the other says, but it’s all good.

Chuck and I were positioned near the smaller beer bar and next to the raised dance floor so that we could observe the show. A couple of hot chicas were dancing, and the tops came off. One was ogling Chuck, and the other had an eye on me. Life is good! My girl has an absolute killer body that would make any centerfold selection. Her name is Viviana, and she is hot (not just her looks, but also her body temp … due to all that dancing. I buy her a water and am rewarded richly for this gesture with lots of groping and DFK. Did I tell you I LOVE RIO?

Well, it’s after 6, and Chuck has to catch his flight. Even though I could have stayed another hour, I decide to come along. We shared a taxi (R25) to the international airport. Doing Viviana will have to wait for another day! For the record, my bill at 4x4 was about R240. (What can I say, I had quite a bit to drink.) They let me pay in US$, as always, but now only give R1.7 per $ (which was still better than the R1.61/$, including commission, that I got at the airport).

So there you have it: this is how to cope with long layovers in Rio. Getting laid puts a whole new spin to the term “layover”.

[Mr Enternational]

This may have happened to you: You fly into Rio from the US or Europe and arrive in the morning, but your connecting flight to some other domestic destination in Brazil leaves late in the evening. Or you have come into Rio on a domestic flight in the morning, but your flight to the US only departs in the evening. What do you do with the 8 to 10 hours of layover? Here is a suggestion …

I arrived at 11 am in Rio, cleared passport controls, picked up my luggage, and cleared customs. Right before you exit the restricted area, there area a bunch of booths of taxi companies with pretty girls. Ignore them! Instead I went to the ugly guy with the Real Ónibus sign. He told me the bus picks up right outside, and that the price to downtown is R3.20. He also told me where the luggage lockers are (upstairs on the departure level in the green area of terminal 1). The luggage guys told me all of their (cheap) lockers are full, but that I could check my luggage with them (R15 total). OK! Then I went downstairs to the arrival level again and picked up the bus with the Real name on the side. (Careful: there are two busses; the other costs more, R6, and moves past centro to zona sul, too.)

Damn. I guess I was a day late and a dollar short. I just answered your question about the bus in the General section. Too bad I missed you in 4X4 yesterday. I was there from about 4:45 until 7pm. It was a packed house. The guy at the back bar let me sing on the mic. What were all of the decorations for?

The guy in the suit behind the bar struck up a conversation with me. He asked me why he always sees Black American guys eating lollipops. I said shit I don't know. I don't eat them. He said that he had been working at 4X4 for a month now and that he had worked at Monte Carlo for a couple of years but everybody is now leaving Monte Carlo. One of the girls working there told me the same thing, as she said she herself was a former Monte Carlo employee.

[Tigerr]

I am planning on going to Brazil the last week of March 2008 for about a week. I need your help: For the first timer Should I go to Rio Or San Paulo. Purpose: Girls, night life etc. Also what will be some good spots to check out in either cities. How expansive?

[Chris H]

Damn. I guess I was a day late and a dollar short. I just answered your question about the bus in the General section. Too bad I missed you in 4X4 yesterday. I was there from about 4:45 until 7pm. It was a packed house. The guy at the back bar let me sing on the mic. What were all of the decorations for?

The guy in the suit behind the bar struck up a conversation with me. He asked me why he always sees Black American guys eating lollipops. I said shit I don't know. I don't eat them. He said that he had been working at 4X4 for a month now and that he had worked at Monte Carlo for a couple of years but everybody is now leaving Monte Carlo. One of the girls working there told me the same thing, as she said she herself was a former Monte Carlo employee.

When I was in Rio in July, one of the kats that hung out with us at the kiosks across from the Marriot was selling lollipops to the guys and giving to the girls. Maybe some girls find this as a turn on.....who knows, I am black, and I don't do it.


Chris H

[Shemp]

Claudia is still in operation, 5th floor, blocko D, above Luomos-#517

telephone # 2255-9970



shemp

[Dutch44]

Just came back from Rio and am already beginning to miss it. Because yesterday was my last night, I arranged an escort (Gisele from Karla Models, phone=7836-0326) at my apartment, in order to warm up before going to HELP. She stayed 2 hours. Cost: 100$ + taxi. In Euros that is about 54 Euros! Darn, where else can you find such a thing for that price! Gisele was a fine girl and quite pretty. She did all I asked. That is what I like about the escort girls, no problems there. Now that I was all warmed up, I decided to go to HELP. So took a taxi (7 R$ from Ipanema) and got out in front of Help, at the Veranda. I did not enter HELP yet. Very soon my eyes fell on a slim tall sexy blonde, 21 yrs old, 1m70 Brasileira. Wow, nice! I was actually here for the Morenas, but she caused such movement in my little Dutchy, that I wanted to talk to her and find out. (I speak some basic Portuguese). I told her I wanted her to stay 4 hours. We negotiated R$200 for that. But after a while I said I changed my mind, and wanted less time. She looked nice, but something in her vibes told to me that I may not want to spend the full 4 hours with her. So I told her, OK, if you come to my apartment for 2 hours, which is half the time, I will pay you hald the price, which is 100 R$, OK? She did not agree, but after some more talking, she agreed to 100 R$ for 90 minutes, which was fine for me. Hey man, where in the world can you spend one and a half hours with a nice 21 year old tall blonde, for 37 Euros!!!!? Her name was Priscilla, she said she only occasionally worked at Help. I believe her, because I never saw her there before. We took a taxi to my apartment and spend the full 90 minutes. Sex was nice, but not extraordinary. Anyway in terms of looks she gets an 8, attitude a 6 and sex a 7. I have attached 2 pictures of her. For 100 R$ and 90 minutes it was well worth it.

After I brought her back to HELP, I went in, danced a while and took home a nice morena... (200 R$, all night until 9 am in the morning)

I love Rio....

Dutch44

[RioFavelaboy]

Raquel before she put on the weight.
Hey Kcrl01 how old are these pics of Raquel? I just saw her last month and you are right she has put a little wieght on over the last couple of years, but the girl can still sex you good, her head game isn't all that great but she still aims to please, the sex is about an 7.5-8.

Did you session with any of her friends and have you seen any of around lately, I will be back down there after thanksgiving and would love to hook up with a couple of them they were just all cool as a cucumber, all did TLN no more than R$150.00, it was about 5 or six in the entire crew, and a couple of them even cooked breakfast I just lost the damn contact info on them all.

If I remember correctly one of them was named Nadja great body and excellent sex and would let me wake her up as many times as I wanted to hit that ass.

Damn the good ole days are gone. I'm trying to search my old computer for some of the pics from 2005 and early 2006 for those photo's you guys got me slobbering at the mouth now.

Damn I love Rio!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Madd Love]

Here are some more pics from Hoe beach. The girl in the apartment is HOT. She is a regular at help. And see her each time I am down there. Nice ttttsss.I mean nice I am talking about FF's. I definitely would like to find her again, I forgot her name at the moment. But she is hot and gives good service. Didn't get a chance for nudes with her but she is worth it. Others are from the beach and the other is one girl from the terma. she is married as well not to someone in the United states but Brasilero. She gives good bbj. And very nice and works hard to please. The topless girl on the beach she is definitely a lot of fun as well. She has extremely good prices R100/ day and she has friends that likes to please. Had two of her friends at the same time.

[Madd Love]

Here are some more pics from Hoe beach. The girl in the apartment is HOT. She is a regular at help. And see her each time I am down there. Nice ttttsss.I mean nice I am talking about FF's. I definitely would like to find her again, I forgot her name at the moment. But she is hot and gives good service. Didn't get a chance for nudes with her but she is worth it. Others are from the beach and the other is one girl from the terma. she is married as well not to someone in the United states but Brasilero. She gives good bbj. And very nice and works hard to please. The topless girl on the beach she is definitely a lot of fun as well. She has extremely good prices R100/ day and she has friends that likes to please. Had two of her friends at the same time.

[Madd Love]

Had a blast, the girls on the beach I met at help they all gave good service. good prices as well two of the girls wanted R200 for the whole night. Me and my friends had a festa back at the apartment and both girls gave bbj 10+ and offered Sx the throughout the night, would love to meet up with these chicas again. Pick them up at help and found that the two girls I bought back wasn't wearing any panties on . They both took off their skirts as soon as we got back to the apartment and by the time i turned around they both were bottomless with no thongs on the floor or anywhere. I had a feeling they might not have any thongs on from the help because they were grinding on me. I think they wore me out that night, with two for the price of one and sx as many times. Not a bad time to be in rio. The chica on the becah is Marcela, and her friend name is Luana. The best!!

[Kcrl01]

Hey Kcrl01 how old are these pics of Raquel? I just saw her last month and you are right she has put a little wieght on over the last couple of years, but the girl can still sex you good, her head game isn't all that great but she still aims to please, the sex is about an 7.5-8.

Damn I love Rio!These fotos were from...would you believe... AUG '05, I swear this chick blew up like she was steriods. Did she have another kid? Don't know any of her partners. I take that back, there was this one chick named Sheila. Serious COKE HEAD. Avoid her if at all possible.

Next trip to bunda wonderland. Last week of NOV.

[Sky Ryder]

Gentlemen,

I have spent some time in Sampa, but have an opportunity to sample Rio later this month. I have read a lot of the material on this board, but would like to ask an opinion. I will arrive on Saturday morning and have all day Sunday and then Monday afternoon to enjoy all that Rio has to offer. If you are so inclined to give me the benefit of your experience, I would like to hear how you would maxmize your fun quotient in that amount of time. I know that the downtown termas are closed on the weekends, but other than that I am open to suggestions. Thank you in advance!

Sky

[Routard]

When I saw her face contort in pleasure and her eyes starting to roll back, I couldn’t hold it any more. YEAH BABY; THAT’S WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT!

This is Rio!

[Tercar 66]

I have made a booking on both Hotel Augusto and Lancaster Othon. I have a deadline to cancell one by Monday. I believe Lancaster does not have a swimming pool. Are these hotels GF. Pls share your comments on these hotels.

[Mangera]

I've heard that Brazil is famous for having shemale's that look like they are women. Does anyone know anything about this?

If not is there another board that deals with this subject?

WHy don't you stay home and keep banging your inflatable shemale doll. This also falls under the practice of safe sex.

This forum deals with women, period.

[Oralover]

I arrived in Rio late on Wednesday. Whoever it was that suggested passing by the Taxi ticket stand and going upstairs to arrivals level to hail a cab. Thanks for the info. Instead of paying are$83 that the taxi stand wanted, my ride was around are$45 to Sao Conrado.

Checked into the Intercontinental, where they had upgraded me to a jr suite with 2 balconies facing the beach and the Corcovado, cleaned up and headed straight out to Centaurus. Wow this place was packed with hot girls. I arrived late and thought I might have missed the action, but not true.

I was quickly approached by two girls who live together, I forget the brunettes name, but the blonde went by Daniela (she has a tattoo that says P&see). These girls are pros. They only ordered sodas and juices, and I was wondering if that was so that they stayed sober throughout the evening and stayed on their game. They could keep you so engaged that you wouldn’t notice there were other girls around. I tried to shop around, but they had me and they knew it. Within 30 minutes we were heading out of the boite.

In bed, these two girls were great. Sexy and playful, and though they weren’t playing with each other as much as I thought I would have liked, I enjoyed the attention of 4 hands, two mouths and 2 pussies all for myself. They liked to play a good girl, bad girl routine, with Daniela being the bad girl (or Diablo as she liked to say). Naturally I was drawn to the bad little blonde. After the session she told me that she would like to come to my hotel sometime. It’s a nice offer that I may have to take her up on if the price is right.

A bad note about this club is that they really do try and upsell the 1 hour session and suite options. I would have been interested if it made any sense financially; but the 40 minute session with 2 girls is are$380 and the 1 hour was are$700. That’s 2 X the price for 1. 5 X the time. What kind of deal is that? ! ?

Met a couple of English speaking guys from Ireland and hung out after the session until almost closing time when I decided to go for a last round. There were only a handful of girls left. I looked around and found this tall Morena with gorgeous blue eyes and long black hair. I can’t remember her name for the life of me, but we were upstairs in 5 minutes. I received a 30 minute BBBJ with those gorgeous blue eyes staring up at me. It was incredible and ended with a huge facial. Wow. It may have gone faster except that her mobile kept vibrating every minute because her friend was trying to reach her. It started to make me laugh after the 5th call, thinking that someone is persistently trying to reach this girl who is so willingly licking every inch of me.

Anyway. Great sex, too many caiparinhas and too much money. Loved every second. Entrance fee. Are$100 Dupla. . Are$380 Single. . Are$230 Drinks. . Are$42 Total Damage are$752. Ouch

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

[Bravo]

Here are some more pics from Hoe beach. The girl in the apartment is HOT. She is a regular at help. And see her each time I am down there. Nice ttttsss.I mean nice I am talking about FF's. I definitely would like to find her again, I forgot her name at the moment. But she is hot and gives good service. Didn't get a chance for nudes with her but she is worth it. Others are from the beach and the other is one girl from the terma. she is married as well not to someone in the United states but Brasilero. She gives good bbj. And very nice and works hard to please. The topless girl on the beach she is definitely a lot of fun as well. She has extremely good prices R100/ day and she has friends that likes to please. Had two of her friends at the same time.


I think the girl in your apartment with the amazing tits is named Pricilla, she probably has the best chest in all of Copa. (You can forget about nude pics, hell, she wont even pose in her bra!) Good service and she likes the tit fuck position. A little expensive, she likes 200R in the afternoon and 250-300R for all night.

[Oralover]

WHy don't you stay home and keep banging your inflatable shemale doll. This also falls under the practice of safe sex.

This forum deals with women, period.Let's all play by the rules.

Ken Male. Under the rules section of ISG

No Discussion about Homosexuals, Transvestites, Transsexuals or She-Males: Please do not post any messages anywhere on this site that refers to Homosexuals, Transvestites, Transsexuals or She-Males. This website is about sex between men who were always men and women who were always women

A quick google search of "Rio shemale" should help you get started.

Mangera. Under the rules section of ISG No Flaming: Please do not post any messages that harrass, insult, belittle, threaten or flame another member

Remember, we all have our own personal tastes, likes and dislikes. It's all about having fun.

[Full Throttle]

For the first time in about a year, I went to a mainstream Copa terma the other day. Monte Carlo has a special going on via their mailing list offering 50R off the total price (20R from cover and 30R from room). I think that made a 40-minute session 200r instead of 250r including everything. I could be 10R off. Disturbingly, the termas usually invoke this sort of promotion just before implementing a price increase.

We arrived before 6pm on a Tuesday night. There were approximately 20 girls working, increasing to 27+ by 7pm. With similar numbers at Monte Carlo, I previously reported that 6-8 were quite hot, 14-16 were doable, and 4-6 didn't have broad appeal. This time, I am saddened to say that only 2 or 3 were hot, 7-8 doable, and 15-20 were merely there for decoration and to create the smokiest atmosphere one could imagine.

I did take one of the two hot ones. She was 5'10"+ before the shoes, a smoking hard body, smallish tits, and a cute 'cat-that-ate-the-canary' smile, complete with an endearing crooked tooth that added charm to her smile. She was fun, although her "please me first" attitude may rub some people the wrong way. The highlight was her penchant for large insertions, including my fist which wouldn't quite go over the last joint in my thumb. Despite her enthusiasm for receiving, her BBBJ was superficial. I wouldn't repeat for Monte Carlo prices, but would consider messing with her elsewhere on a more rational financial basis.

I'm not a huge fan of 4X4, but have to admit that the quality there surpassed Monte Carlo on this night. Moreover, the girls at my Centro choices (Laser 502, Aquarius, and, my new favorite, Le Palace) were at least on par and far less money.

1.8R to the dollar? Simply tragic.

FT

[Lorenzo]

I have made a booking on both Hotel Augusto and Lancaster Othon. I have a deadline to cancell one by Monday. I believe Lancaster does not have a swimming pool. Are these hotels GF. Pls share your comments on these hotels.
I stayed at Augusto's Copacabana Hotel 3 years ago. It is a very nice hotel, a good bargain for the price: sumptuous, spacious rooms, excellent buffet breakfast--not at all like a budget hotel. It is girl friendly, but they will charge for an extra guest, and she will need to show ID and register. This is standard. The only drawback is that it is 3 blocks in from the beach, so it may not be totally safe to walk back to at night. If you stay there, take a taxi coming and going at night.

L

[Sperto]

I'm looking forward to your, and Ibiza's, centro updates. :)

[Mangera]

Let's all play by the rules.

Ken Male. Under the rules section of ISG

No Discussion about Homosexuals, Transvestites, Transsexuals or She-Males: Please do not post any messages anywhere on this site that refers to Homosexuals, Transvestites, Transsexuals or She-Males. This website is about sex between men who were always men and women who were always women

A quick google search of "Rio shemale" should help you get started.

Mangera. Under the rules section of ISG No Flaming: Please do not post any messages that harrass, insult, belittle, threaten or flame another member

Remember, we all have our own personal tastes, likes and dislikes. It's all about having fun.

Thanks for the reminder, will keep it in mind.

[Flexinbk]

I did take one of the two hot ones. She was 5'10"+ before the shoes, a smoking hard body, smallish tits, and a cute 'cat-that-ate-the-canary' smile, complete with an endearing crooked tooth that added charm to her smile. She was fun, although her "please me first" attitude may rub some people the wrong way. The highlight was her penchant for large insertions, including my fist which wouldn't quite go over the last joint in my thumb. Despite her enthusiasm for receiving, her BBBJ was superficial. I wouldn't repeat for Monte Carlo prices, but would consider messing with her elsewhere on a more rational financial basis.

FTIs her name Sarah or some variation?

[Madd Love]

hey bravo, you right she got the best tits in all copa and worth the price. i mean the best, i would get with her any time. when i was with her she loves to please and love the tit fuck position like you said. she has a group of friends as well and lives not too far from the beach. i always see her often me and her are good peeps. can't wait to see her again. you have to see her on the beach, man she went topless the time i was there and guys were going crazy.

damn rio.

brazil is getting a little more expensive since the dollar is falling. i miss those days when it was 3 to 1.

i think by next year it may be 1.50 exchange rate because of the housing crises in the us.

but there is other places to go besides br. colombia is another hot spot too.

[Oralover]

Thursday night was a return to Solarium for me.

I arrived around 8:00 pm

It seemed like the vast majority of girls here tonight were loiras.

After only 3 hours sleep and little food that day, I knew I would probably only session once, so I decided to wait to make my choice. Not sure why, but it felt like there were less doable girls that night. I was actually contemplating leaving when Sol walked into the bar. We sessioned the last time I was there, and it was a great time. She came over with her killer smile and long legs and in no time we were seated comfortably chatting in our mixed English/Portuguese/Spanish.

I decided to take advantage of the full hour with Sol since I would be going back to my hotel to sleep after. Unfortunately, this meant waiting for the suite; which took a full 50 minutes. It’s one thing to sit in a bar and scope out the scenery and engage in short conversations for an hour; it’s another thing to engage in a 1 hour conversation with a girl who speaks a different language. What I end up doing in a case like that is to buy drinks for her girlfriends. That way they can join you at the table and also chat amongst themselves to take the pressure off you. Plus there is an added bonus of more sexy girls at your side.

When the suite opened up, we proceeded to use up the entire hour. Sex with Sol is great. She does everything except anal, (well everything I need, I am sure there are things I haven’t even thought of) and she does it with enthusiasm and passion. However, I learnt a big lesson that night... DON'T LET YOURSELF DEHYDRATE. Lots of alcohol, plenty of sun and exercising really dehydrated me, and I forgot to drink a bunch of water that day. Dehydration affects all your bodily fluids, and what little water I had left in me was being sweated out by Sol. Throughout the entire hour, I wasn’t able to orgasm. I kept hitting plateaus and then crashing… it was sort of tantric in its own way, but that’s not what I was going for. At the end of the hour, Sol started to apologize that she wasn’t able to make me cum, but I waved it off and she realized that I was hard as a board for her the whole time and enjoyed her immensely.

I got back to my hotel nice and early, drank two litres of water and slept like a log.

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[Euro100]

reports on l'uomo's demise are greatly exaggerated! :d i was there last night, from 7:30 pm to closing time, and it was great. about 30 girls, just about all of them doable, with at least 8-10 stunners.

reports that all of the regular girls have left are simply wrong. of course there is a huge turnover in all of these places, but i recognized a few faces from last year. in particular, my two amigas ingrid and pricilla were still there. needless to say that i was warmly welcomed back, with hugs and beijos, and what not.

the only thing that was lacking in a serious way was ... men. at one time (~9 pm) i looked around in the boite, and there was only two of us, facing 20 garotas. of course i like that ratio, because it makes me king. but the girls need to make a living, and so the atmosphere was a bit subdued.

this changed radically when three asian-americans showed up at 10 or so. it was their first time at l'uomo. i chatted a bit with them and brought them up to speed on what they could have learned by reading the bubba guide. we had a couple drinks to get them calmed down, and i signaled a few girls over.

it is such a kick to see first-timers buckle under the onslaught of female seduction at l'uomo. i had told the guys to take is easy and delay their selection process, because the "courting" part is half the fun. but after the first bundas started dancing right in front of their crotches ... they were goners. 15 minutes into the negotiations, and they all had surrendered their keys, each to the very first girl that had approached them.

as midnight approached, about half of the girls were on their feet and dancing up a storm. my three new american friends and i were "forced :)" to join them, and we had a great time.

exchange rates: l'uomo gives r1.8 for the dollar and r2.5 for the euro. these are pretty competitive rates, because you do not pay commission. the prices are still pretty much exactly as i remembered them from last time.

when i arrived at 7:30 there was a standard italian buffet available (2 kinds of noodles, meat sauce, meatless sauce, salad). i ate a bit; it was nothing special. but it still is a nice touch for a rio terma. in german fkks free food is standard, but to the best of my knowledge l'uomo is the only rio terma that does it.

did i do the naughty?, you ask. you bet! but i need to hold off on details for now and report more extensively later. we did it once onsite, and after the 1 am closing time she came over to my hotel. we had only very limited sleep, and she just left my hotel. yum, yum, yum!

needless to say, i will be back at l’uomo tonight. i plan to arrive around 9 pm. if any of you guys want to hang, just pm me. (i’ll be the guy wearing his own speedo flip-flops, not the ones supplied by l’uomo).

[Oralover]

Friday night at Centaurus.

I spent the day in Ipanema. Sunbathing and girl watchng at Posto 9, jogging along Ave. Vieira Souto, drinking plenty of juice at Polis Suco (what a great juice bar) and wandering through the fresh food market in the park. After a late lunch/early dinner, I decided to head in Centaurus around 6:00pm.

I’m not sure if most of the girls hadn’t arrived yet, or if allot of them were already in sessions, but the bar didn’t have the numbers that were there last time. Nonetheless, the standard at Centaurus is pretty high in my books, and I knew I was going to have multiple sessions tonight. I decided to sit myself away from the main action and watch the girls from a distance, sitting at a table. This makes it tougher for the aggressive girls, and allows for a small party when the right girls are with you.

It didn’t take too long before a couple of girls decided to tag team me. Bebel (or babel) a loira with a fantastic body and a big smile, and Beticia a dark morena with smoking hot eyes and a body paid for in sweat at the gym. I wasn’t sure if either were going to be on my list tonight, but they were very sexy and I knew I’d enjoy their company. Beticia speaks no english, but Bebel speaks enough.

I’ve got to say I found them really refreshing; they offered no pressure and made it feel like just a couple of people meeting at a bar. It was pretty obvious that Bebel and I would find our way upstairs, but it was fun to just sit there chatting a drinking without rushing. She even brought friends over to introduce me to. Of course with strict instructions that I was only allowed to fuck her. The night was turning into a little party. I bought the girls some drinks and some food (yes, there is a small kitchen behind the bar) and I was having a great time listening to them gossip about each other and the clientele.

After about an hour, Bebel winked at me and I knew it was time to leave. As I was sitting in the room waiting for Babel to shower and change, I realized that the relaxed setting in the bar made me forget all the rules. I never asked Bebel what she would do, or wouldn’t do. I also realized that all her kisses in the bar had been without tongue. I started to feel I had made a big mistake, and then she walked in.

She looked hot in this very sexy white lingerie, and my cock was instantly hard for her. She whipped her clothes off in 5 seconds and jumped on top of me. That tongue was down my throat before I could say "WOW". She turned out to be a great kisser. Her only drawback is that she doesn’t do BBBJ, and her CBJ didn’t last very long. But her body is so perfect for me that I enjoyed every minute, in every position. I usually am not a fan of silicone because they are too hard and often too big for the body, but Bebel’s were perfectly suited to her and I loved the firmness under my hands. I couldn't get enough of watching this girl in every position. As a side note, I feel the standard rooms in Centaurus could use more mirrors.

After an amazing 40 minutes, we both went off to shower and meet in the bar. Now there were allot more girls in the bar then before. I returned first and ended up at a table with some of Bebel’s friends. Beticia joined us shortly and joked that since I wouldn’t do the two girls together, it was now my turn to do her since I had just done Bebel. Not a bad idea I thought. Bebel returned to the table and our little party took off again, with Beticia becoming more and more flirtatious. Then came the telling moment. Beticia extended her tongue to lick my fingers. When I saw he length of that tongue and the way she was able to move it, I knew we were heading upstairs.

Beticia is the opposite of Bebel. She is very dark, with large natural tits, and a fair sized ass. She works out daily and never smokes. This girl is dirty and nasty and will do anything. She is also very aggressive and her fucking is fast and furious. A little too much so for my taste. A couple of times she nearly broke my dick. My problem came when her condoms felt like they were choking my dick. Twice I had to remove the condom to let my dick breathe and come back to life. It was at this point that she tried to fuck me bareback. WOAH! I couldn’t believe it. If I’m going to risk bareback action, it’s not going to be on a one night stand in a terma. We ended the session with allot of horsing around and bareback hand, mouth and bodyslides. While we were resting and playing, I found out that I could bring my own condoms in. This is great news for me, as I find the condoms here very tight.

Back to the showers and again to the bar. Bebel was waiting for us. At this point the bar was starting to thin out a little. A girl that I had been eyeing earlier came over to our table to ask Bebel for a smoke. I can’t remember her name, but Bebel introduced me to her younger step sister (they share the same dad). I just about fell to the floor when all the possible scenarios ran through my mind. This girl was a hot little dancer. I had watched her on the pole for quite a while and really enjoyed her moves. She is a little young and has possibly the smallest tits I’ve seen at the termas, but she is a devilish girl. She was telling her sister that she had had 4 caipivodkas and 8 whiskies, Bebel was on her 6th vodka at this point but seemed drunker than her sister.

At about 1 AM things were very quiet and I was thinking of heading out, but bebel’s sister’s dancing had sprung some new life in me, and when I glanced down at Bebel’s body again I figured I could always try for a third round. The next 40 minutes was spent fucking slow and sensually. No foreplay, no oral, just tender kisses and sweet slow sex. A great way to end a fantastic evening.

EntranceR$100 Bebel (1)are$230 BeticiaR$230 Bebel (2)are$230 Bar tabR$267 (I know this is allot, but if I had hosted a party like this in a bar back home, the bill would have been huge)

TotalR$1057

One great nightPriceless

The big question is. How do you tell this incredibly hot blonde that rocked your world that you would like to fuck her little sister now.

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[Brazilman]

For those in Rio now, have the amount of gringos gone down, since the exchange rate went to 1.80. I don't think I can afford Rio anymore. What are the girls saying about the business now? Slow? The same?

[Edward M]

Thursday night was a return to Solarium for me.

I decided to take advantage of the full hour with Sol since I would be going back to my hotel to sleep after. Unfortunately, this meant waiting for the suite; which took a full 50 minutes. It’s one thing to sit in a bar and scope out the scenery and engage in short conversations for an hour; it’s another thing to engage in a 1 hour conversation with a girl who speaks a different language. What I end up doing in a case like that is to buy drinks for her girlfriends. That way they can join you at the table and also chat amongst themselves to take the pressure off you. Plus there is an added bonus of more sexy girls at your side. Glad you had a good time. What I would have done in a similar situation was to have all kinds of foreplay with the girl in the boite and/or have her teach me some Portuguese. Did you have a steep drink bill at the end?

[Chezz]

First off I would like to add to what Euro just posted; and that is L’uomo continues to be the "home field" for my Terma action, as far as I’m concerned.

I arrived on Wednesday for 8 days in Rio and the weather couldn’t have been better. I came down for the Pan American Games in August and the weather was just brutal. Rainy and cold every day, including the last day of the games. I had box seats for the closing ceremonies that I didn’t use them due to the rain and cold. But so far it’s been beautiful every day, though the water at the beach has been brutally cold. The beach was packed, but only the heartiest of souls were swimming.

Getting back to the business at hand, I hit L’uomo the first night (Wednesday night) and it was just like I remembered it being on my first trip. About 30 girls milling around but only about 7-8 guys. Though this is my 10th trip to Rio, I still had that same excitement level I had on my first trip. I walked through the front door and Alesandra at the front desk still remembered my name. Nice touch. I went with 2 girls that first night, forget about remembering the girl’s names. I can barely remember my own. But the first was a new girl who had made the switch from Monte Carlo. She had been at L’uomo only a week and seemed happy to be there. She was incredible, as was the second girl. I felt like I was in dreamland, which is why I come to Rio. Especially comforting was the non-pushy feeling of this club. The only girls I bought drinks for were the ones I offered to. Very laid back and relaxing.

The second day I took the metro to 4x4. That friggin place never seems to change. Packed nut to butt with mongers and ass-grabbin’ working girls. In this case I do remember the girl who I took upstairs, Paolla. A beautiful brunette who could be making more money at Centauraus be chooses to say at 4x4, which is good news for the clients of 4x4. She’s not too friendly in the boite and upon further discussion she said that when she first started she got a lot of attention from the local Brazilian guys and got tired of guys just making out with her and not taking her to a cabine. So she made her own rule to be cool in the boite and open up upstairs. Normally if I encounter a girl that cold and stand-offish I’ll just pass as there are plenty of garotas in the sea. But I was rewarded in taking a chance with her. I guess you just have to go with your gut feeling. And that only comes with repetition. 4x4 stays in the rotation for me.

After 4x4 a group of us went back to L’uomo (Thursday evening) for a nightcap. The boite was kind of empty of clients, but with plenty of beautiful girls to choose from. I ended up with one of the few blonds for a session that far exceeded my expectations with her. Damn! Another lesson learned.

Friday was Help night (after a wasted trip to Solarium. I won’t go into hat a waste that place i. And you can keep the 45 minute taxi ride and the tip-begging receptionist) and it was a clusterfuck as usual. The girls that I was interested in – L’uomo/Centaraus standards.- were asking 400-500 reals. WTF? I smiled, said no thanks a number of times and was ready to head home alone until I saw an old friend who gave me a fair price for a couple of hours and I split with her. If you can put up with the BS and don’t mind dealing with staying up to the wee hours to hit your number, then Help still works. I always get a kick out running the gauntlet of the bums, beggars and muggers who inhabit the space between the Help exit and the taxi line.

Tonight was back to L’uomo for a going away party for some old and new friends. And again I was impressed not only to the quality but also by the vibe of the place. Centauraus always has models, but who wants to added pressure and headaches? Monte Carlo is always hit and miss. And forget about Solarium, it doesn’t exist for me. I don’t have the balls for VM and the second tier joints just don’t have what I’m looking for.

It’s 11:30pm now and I’m beat. I just wanted to chime in and give my 2 centavos regarding L’uomo. YRMV and if you don’t like I there, there are so many other great places.

Side note: Bobby is still up and running at Blame it on Rio. His laundry place looks good – brand new equipment, etc. I wish him well as he has always been helpful to me, though I no longer need the services of a local agent.

Still haven’t been to Centauraus. Heard good reports from some dudes on the beach, but the recent price hikes and combined with the devils who work the front desk and hard-core up-selling by the GDPs make this a last resort hh.

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[Fun Pete]

This must be Claudia introduced by Mario (Brazil Specialist)? I remember her and the girls, but it was more a day action place. She also had an apartment in the same building and rented it out; her girls would knock on the door everyday to get some action for $$$ of course. Once I took a stunner from her, at 10am in the morning, she finished me off for the rest of the day :)


When I was in Rio de Janeiro about 4 years ago, I got the contact to Claudia, an older woman living in an apartment at the shopping complex between Rua Sigureido Campos and Fernando Magalhaes. She introduced me to several very nice amateur garotas - of course getting a kickback from the girls.

Does anyone know if she is still working and has maybe her adress/tel. number?

[One Eyed Man]

There was some very vocal criticism of l'Uomo a while back, which I am not able to corroborate, since I've been going down to Rio just a couple of years. When I was there last May, it seemed like pretty slim pickings there, but then again, it was off-season. According to Chazz's report below, they seem to have re-stocked the pond.

My point and question is, l'Uomo seems one of the best places to go on the weekend, since the places in Centro are shut, or are there acceptable alternatives for weekend mongering? It always seems like a long wait until 4x4 reopens on Monday.

[Madd Love]

Damn this one was hot.

I miss Rio.

[Madd Love]

The girl with the yellow tube top is a regular on the beach and help. Has good prices and highly recomended from my experience. Has friends that give two somes and threesomes.

[Lonzof]

The girl with the yellow tube top is a regular on the beach and help. Has good prices and highly recomended from my experience. Has friends that give two somes and threesomes.


Excellent selection Madd Love.

[Lonzof]

There was some very vocal criticism of l'Uomo a while back, which I am not able to corroborate, since I've been going down to Rio just a couple of years. When I was there last May, it seemed like pretty slim pickings there, but then again, it was off-season. According to Chazz's report below, they seem to have re-stocked the pond.

My point and question is, l'Uomo seems one of the best places to go on the weekend, since the places in Centro are shut, or are there acceptable alternatives for weekend mongering? It always seems like a long wait until 4x4 reopens on Monday.

I was there in May and I did notice a slight decline in the talent, but there were many to choose from. I don't usually rate women 1-10 because we all like different types of women. The talent was good enough for me to have multiple sessions.

As other mongers have stated, the talent at the termas tend to turnover and rotate quite often. Before this last trip, Luomo was my favorite Copa termas. That has changed to MC merely due the large number of girls on location. Luomo is STILL a great spot to have fun in Copa.

Lonzof

[Amerioca]

When I arrived at 7:30 there was a standard Italian buffet available (2 kinds of noodles, meat sauce, meatless sauce, salad).

Did they stop serving Brazilian food?

[Edward M]

Friday night at Centaurus.

EntranceR$100 Bebel (1)r$230 BeticiaR$230 Bebel (2)r$230 Bar tab R$267 (I know this is a lot, but if I had hosted a party like this in a bar back home, the bill would have been huge)

TotalR$1057

One great nightPricelessDang! I hope you really like the parties or have money to burn. You spent more on driins than a session with Bebel's sister would have cost.


The big question is. How do you tell this incredibly hot blonde that rocked your world that you would like to fuck her little sister now.I would say, "Get your sister over here. I am going to fuck her now." [Pega sua irma. Eu vou fode-la agora.] I am sure she would not have been offended. Heck, at the rate you are spending and partying, why not get both at the same time?

[Chezz]

Did they stop serving Brazilian food?No. Last night (Saturday) they had quite a tasty Feijoada spread with all the sides, etc. Very high quality meat and sausage, suprisingly. Better than at Kilogramma.

I took a day off today and went to Maracana to watch Flamingo get their asses handed to them by Fluminense, but tomorrow plan on going back to L'uomo for another round.

[Sperto]

Damn this one was hot.
I miss Rio.
Congratulations, that must be one of the hottest girl I've seen on this forum.
Beautiful tits and lovely smile.
Terma-girl?

[Benjoe]

No. Last night (Saturday) they had quite a tasty Feijoada spread with all the sides, etc. Very high quality meat and sausage, suprisingly. Better than at Kilogramma.

I took a day off today and went to Maracana to watch Flamingo get their asses handed to them by Fluminense, but tomorrow plan on going back to L'uomo for another round.

Saturday night is feijoada night. In the old days, they only served free food on Saturdays -- feijoada.

[Euro100]

My flight arrived at Rio International around 9:30 pm on Thursday. I collected my bag and used my newly acquired knowledge of the bus transportation system to take the R6 bus to Copa. It is a very nice big air-conditioned bus with plenty of luggage space below. It takes about 1 hour to get to the Copa, because it makes it way through centro, past the domestic airport, the Rodovario, and so on. But it also made for a very nice evening city tour. On the Copa, it drives down Av. Atlantica, and I hopped off at the stop close to Help! disco. I knew I had about 8 blocks to my hotel, the Premier Copacabana, which I chose because of its immediate proximity to L’uomo. Since it was close to 11 pm, it may have been inviting trouble to walk to my hotel with my luggage, which includes stuff that I really really cannot afford to have robbed from me. So I took a cab for the rest of the way (R8). Still, the total of R14 for the transport from GIG to my hotel beat the hell out of taking a taxi and shelling out R60 or perhaps R70, like I had done the previous time. Let me put it this way: the difference is 5 or 6 caipis.

By the time I had checked in, it was 11:30 and getting too late for any meaningful trip to L’uomo, like I had planned. Oh well, Angelica would just have to wait for another day. I walked over to Help! and arrived 10 minutes before midnight, the prime arrival time for the experienced garotas. R22 entrance, just beating the deadline. I got myself a caipiroska and started to scope the offerings. After walking twice around the dance floor and stopping in strategic positions, I became convinced that I had spotted the most attractive offering. Her name is Raquel, I learned later. And she looks a hell of a lot like Brook Shields use to when she was in her prime, i.e. at least 10 years ago. She danced with two girlfriends: in rhythm, but very slowly moving, with a sensuous air. She was wearing a very attractive short cocktail dress of thin silk. Of course she noticed my interest, but did not come over right away, instead just stealing a shy glance and a mysterious smile. I LOVE THAT PART OF THE RITUAL. And older guy walks up to her and talks with her for a few seconds, but she just shakes her head and dances away. I slightly move my head, and she comes over to where I lean against the railing. “Can I buy you a drink?” “Aqua” “Si”. Introduction. Name? Where you from? How old? First time in Rio? I tell her how I feel: “You are by far the most beautiful girl in Help! tonight!” A little light breathing on each others necks, slow dancing to the music. I move my hands down her back and detect NO UNDERWEAR LINE!!! That sold me right then and there.

Raquel’s English is excellent, and she has been to the US. After the first kiss Raquel feels the need to clarify that she is here on business. I know. She asks for R300. I tell her that this is what she should ask from an ugly guy, but not from me. She laughs and says her ugly-guy-rate is R500, and she already offered me her special, because she can sense that she will have fun with me. Plus, she says that she already sent that last guy away, because he only wanted to offer R300. I just smile, dance, kiss, and offer $100. (With the going exchange rate, this is R180). She wants $150, we settle on $120. She says that this can really only cover 2 hours, and not all night. I have a feeling that I still have not maxed out my negotiation potential, but I am horny as hell. What’s another $20?

In my hotel she is just terrific. We first take a nice shower. (She makes sure that her expensively style hair does not get wet ;)) I learn soon that underneath that exterior of the sophisticated young lady is a real s1ut! Just my kind of women :D. We make excellent use of my allotted 2 hours. She is really eager to have some fun, too, and manages to come a couple of times, once already during the original oral phase. We do all of the required gymnastics, and then she decides that she needs a little backdoor action. To my astonishment she does not switch condoms as I alternate between the two openings. I JUST LOVE THAT LITTLE S1UT!

In my book the best orgasms are those that happen simultaneously. We manage to do this to perfection here, in mish, with her knees pulled up to her breasts and under my upper body.

Before the leaves she gives me her email and her phone number. I dial the phone number right away to make sure that I got it right. Her purse rings, as required. Get this: she already has an iPhone. This is a girl with expensive taste! She says that she wants to get together again, perhaps for dinner. No money, she adds. Yeah, I like that.

I call the next evening at 5, and she is at the workout club. Tells me that she cannot go to dinner, because she has a “client” scheduled during that time, wants me to call again the next day. After that it does not fit into my schedule any more, because Angelica (see the following post) manages to absorb all of my available time. Therefore, too bad so sad, I have to pass on Raquel. She promises to email me when she visits NYC again (her sister is married there). Who knows what might develop?

[Euro100]

I already reported on my Friday night at L’uomo (http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=652137). Who did I tap that night? Angelica, again. I had made her “acquaintance” with her in June and really enjoyed that experience. When we saw each other again on Friday, it was like two old lovers running into each other. Immediately, it became clear who I would spend the evening and night with.

Angelica was everything that I could have asked for that night, and she left my hotel on Saturday morning at 10 am, after an extended breakfast sex session, followed by a shared shower. (The shower in my hotel room in the Premier Copacabana is outstanding; very large, with water that really douses you.) After she left, I dozed off again, and then decided to go to the beach. I went to the section in front of the Othon Palace, also affectionately known as Hooker Beach. I was not really intent on pulling something for an afternoon quickie, having had plenty of Angelica loving for most of the night. (Note to all women who may be reading this: see, if you keep us happy in the sack, we won’t stray … that much ;)) I just sat at one of the cheap kiosks, had a couple of Skols, a coconut, and a couple of skewers. Sitting there in the afternoon sun, with all of the smells and sounds and particularly the sights of the Copa, makes for a perfect afternoon.

At 4 I made my way back to the hotel and did a little work on the computer until 6. Then I had my heart set on a steak sandwich from Cervantes. The esteemed board member Christopherd has my eternal gratitude for introducing me to this delight. I took the metro, which is right across from my hotel, for one stop and then walked the remaining 3 blocks to the temple of steak sandwiches. Of course I elected to have it with cheese and pineapple, just like Chris taught me. Two chops to wash the sandwich down, and back with the metro to L’uomo. That whole excursion cost me R20 and was really worth it.

I exited the Sequiera Campos metro station and went straight up to L’uomo. I had said in my previous post that the Friday evening had been subdued. But not so today. The place was hopping! Lots of guys there, and this got the girls excited. And if the girls are excited, watch out! The “clubhouse” was rocking. I was in no hurry to get into the boite and first took a long shower, shave, and so on. I had bought a 5-cologne sample pack from Calvin Klein from the duty free; and the night before I had let Angelica tell me which she liked best. That little flask of “Escape” was in my bathrobe and got applied liberally.

Angelica saw me coming out of the shower and into the relax room, ran over to me with a happy shriek, and started kissing. Then she noted the cologne and took a big approving whiff. I told her I would catch up with her in a minute, and had a plate of feijoada from their customary Saturday evening buffet first, which Peter was setting out. Watched a bit of the baseball playoff, but really did not care enough to stay away from the boite.

From the get-go Angelica was all over me. I loved all that attention, of course. We laughed, drank (a bit), kissed and groped (a lot :D), danced (also a bit), and had just a great time. At 9 pm Angelica excused herself and then came back to do a “show”. She had picked the song “I’m in love with a stripper” (T-Pain) and did her strip with her usual sparkplug level of electricity, dumping her clothes on me. Damn, this girl knows how to push ALL of my buttons!

Another American sitting close to me asked me if Angelica was my girlfriend, and I said that was a definite possibility, liking the way that this idea sounded. She came back after a short while, wearing another one of her seemingly endless supply of seductive outfits. I gave her the key to secure us a room. But can you believe it, there was not a single room to be had. So we had to wait. She had tequila, but asked me to not have one, because she wanted me in top form for lovemaking. I don’t know; if we had been married, I would have probably been pissed off right then, but here this request really touched me. I complied and had aqua. I know, I know, “pussy-whipped” is what you are thinking. I don’t care.

The session was all that I could have possibly asked for. Real and total GFE! She was not shy about asking for me to do what she liked, and I was only too happy to comply. It was my 5th pop with her in 24 hours, and I really had become familiar with the buttons that she likes to have pushed.

She stayed with me until closing time, and we acted like a couple of young lovebirds. She had already told me that she could not spend the night this time, because some old client of hers had booked her. That news had hurt me more than I care to admit, but what can you do. She took great pains to tell me that it was only me that she loves, and that the others are just “for money”. In return she wanted me to reassure her that Ingrid and all the other girls I was (sometimes very) friendly with in L’uomo mean nothing to me. OK, no problem, I really can honestly say that I have never been closer to any garota than Angelica. She made me touch a few tits and asses of her friends to prove that I would not get a rise out of it. Again, no problem, sweetie, you can test me all night like this.

To my own surprise I actually went back to my hotel after L’uomo closed and went to sleep. This girl is doing something funny to me.

[Euro100]

Angelica had been very apologetic that she could not spend the night with me. That client was a long-term regular engagement providing for a steady source of income. I had wanted to take her out to lunch the previous day, but she did not have time. Probably to make up for that she offered to come over to my hotel and meet me for lunch after the night that she could not spend with me.

She showed up at 12:30 in the afternoon, and we headed for Porcao in Ipanema, one of my favorite restaurants. In the taxi on the way to the restaurant she received two calls from other regular clients. It was really interesting to hear her lie to them quite convincingly, not wanting to reveal that she was with me. The taxi driver shot me a curious look; I just shrugged. I am certainly not the one to be judgmental about lifestyle choices.

This lunch ended up being one of the best meals in my life. The food, of course, was off-scale delicious, as I have come to expect from Porcao. We started with a few pieces of sushi, which Angelica enjoyed tremendously. Then we went to the meat. After all, Porcao is a churascaria. My usual tendency is to stuff myself at this point, but I was able to manage some discipline, because of what I wanted to do after lunch. More than enjoying my own food I enjoyed her enjoying her food. She really likes picanha. (By the way: it’s not that she could not afford to eat here. She has quite a bit of money. For example, her Motorola cell phone is the newest top-of-the-line touch-screen model. But that she chooses not to indulge to keep her pretty much perfect body shape.) We had some coffee, and I got the cream of papaya dessert, while she had some chocolate. Total damage was just a hair under R200, money extremely well spent in my book.

It was now a little after 2 pm. She was under time pressure, because she had to run some errands before work (she has to be a L’uomo at 4 pm sharp!). But she also really wanted to give me what I wanted before I had to fly off again later that afternoon. So we went upstairs to my room (late checkout fee to keep the room until 6 pm at the Premier Copa hotel: R35) and had one last delicious installment of GFE lovemaking to perfection. She left at 3, I took a last shower, and got a taxi to the airport.

As always, Angelica does not charge me outside of L’uomo. (In turn I make sure that I always have at least one session with her, and only with her, when I am at L’uomo.) This arrangement benefits both of us. During my last Rio trip I had told her the truth about all of my life. So she knows that there are no expectations for a long-term relationship beyond what we have now. She calls me safado, and she is right. But I think that I also make her feel good about herself for the little while that she is with me. I know that this is the case from my side. We can’t really have meaningful conversations. Her English is better than my Portuguese, but still not good enough. But it all doesn’t matter. I live for experiences like this, and I think that there is no better city in the world to get them than Rio.

Until next time …

[Madd Love]

FROM EURO100: She wants $150, we settle on $120. She says that this can really only cover 2 hours

Euro100 I am not knocking your game or your choice of what you pay with the girls but you could have gotten lower prices for two hours. I think R100 max is good for two hours maybe a little bit more if the girl is HOT. But i enjoyed your report. I experienced the same with these woman lying to other clients on the phone. Its all a game, with these girls. I think R300 is a lot for off season for all night. Remember this is Brazil not America where the average pay and work is different. She was quoting American prices in Brazil. These girls go to the U.S and try to use the same prices there.

To the other guy the girl is a terma girl but can't remember which one at the moment.

[Abzsafado]

Friday night at Centaurus.

A couple of times she nearly broke my dick. My problem came when her condoms felt like they were choking my dick. Twice I had to remove the condom to let my dick breathe and come back to life. ]

I was leaving Barbarellas on Friday with a girl I had been with once before. We stopped in the Farmacia do leme to buy some rubbers. I asked the guy for my usuals when my young lady butts in and asks for another brand, she said they would be much better. They are called Extra. I am not big and I thought she was taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) but they really were a lot more comfortable, I would recommend them to you all. A lot of the Brasilian condoms I have tried are really poor quality but these were pretty good.

[Jan 156]

some rubbers . . . They are called Extra . . . they really were a lot more comfortable, I would recommend them to you all. A lot of the Brasilian condoms I have tried are really poor quality but these were pretty good.

Yep, and not all farmacias sell Preserv Extra (as I've discovered when running out in the VM area). Buying some rubbers at that particular Farmacia do Leme is also a good way of splitting a large note and getting small change for the bus and sessions at VM - although if you are going to Barbarellas I suppose it might be the other way round ;-)

[Abzsafado]

Congratulations, that must be one of the hottest girl I've seen on this forum.
Beautiful tits and lovely smile.
Terma-girl?

I agree wholeheartedly but I think it's a bit poor to post such a stunning picture with no information about who she is or where he found her. I thought we were here to share information, probably just jealousy on my part, i would keep her to myself too.
This afternoon the weather in Rio was gorgeeous sunny but not too hot, so why was hooker beach almost empty at 3pm? I had to go to 4x4 instead. Funnily enough it was almost empty at 4pm, but only of men. Out of curiosity I tried counting the girls. From where I was standing I counted 35, but there were at at least as many more outside the bar and out of sight at the far end. There were probably only 10 guys. However quantity does not always mean quality, there was a lot of stretch marks and cellulite on show. After my session with the lovely Anna from Sao Paulo, the one with the plaster cast on her wrist, the place was even busier, with women. Paradise!

[Oralover]

Dang! I hope you really like the parties or have money to burn. You spent more on driins than a session with Bebel's sister would have cost.
I wouldn't call it burning the money, this is definately more fun; but I did have a large budget as this may be my only trip to Rio in years.

Also, for me it's not just about the times in the rooms; I enjoyed the whole experience. The time in the bar with the girls was amazing... the party of a lifetime for me.


I would say, "Get your sister over here. I am going to fuck her now." [Pega sua irma. Eu vou fode-la agora.] I am sure she would not have been offended. Heck, at the rate you are spending and partying, why not get both at the same time?They don't play together.

But in my next post I will tell you all about my last night party there and how the little sister ended up coming back to my suite for 2 days, and how she wouldn't take a dime for it.

There is a heaven and it's called Rio.

[Abzsafado]

Yep, and not all farmacias sell Preserv Extra (as I've discovered when running out in the VM area). Buying some rubbers at that particular Farmacia do Leme is also a good way of splitting a large note and getting small change for the bus and sessions at VM - although if you are going to Barbarellas I suppose it might be the other way round ;-)

I have never been to VM yet but after seeing the pictures in the recent posts in the picture gallery, I think I will have to find some time to leave my comfort zone and break free from the high cost girls of Barbarellas and 4x4. But like a good boy scout I will plan ahead and take my extras with me.
Is it quicker to get there by taking the metro to centro and then a bus or taxi? Like all men I hate to ask directions, but sometimes you have to swallow your pride.

[Benjoe]

I agree wholeheartedly but I think it's a bit poor to post such a stunning picture with no information about who she is or where he found her. I thought we were here to share information, probably just jealousy on my part, i would keep her to myself too.
!

The background in the photo is 4x4.

[Abzsafado]

The background in the photo is 4x4.

How could you look at the background!!!!!!!!!!!! I admire your self discipline.

[Edward M]

I wouldn't call it burning the money, this is definately more fun; but I did have a large budget as this may be my only trip to Rio in years.

Also, for me it's not just about the times in the rooms; I enjoyed the whole experience. The time in the bar with the girls was amazing... the party of a lifetime for me.

They don't play together.

But in my next post I will tell you all about my last night party there and how the little sister ended up coming back to my suite for 2 days, and how she wouldn't take a dime for it.

There is a heaven and it's called Rio.Nice. Can't wait.

[Euro100]

FROM EURO100: She wants $150, we settle on $120. She says that this can really only cover 2 hours

Euro100 I am not knocking your game or your choice of what you pay with the girls but you could have gotten lower prices for two hours. I think R100 max is good for two hours maybe a little bit more if the girl is HOT. But i enjoyed your report. I experienced the same with these woman lying to other clients on the phone. Its all a game, with these girls. I think R300 is a lot for off season for all night. Remember this is Brazil not America where the average pay and work is different. She was quoting American prices in Brazil. These girls go to the U.S and try to use the same prices there.

To the other guy the girl is a terma girl but can't remember which one at the moment.

No offense taken. To me it's all relative. She was smoking hot; I wanted her; I go her at a price that I thought was OK. I have hunted at VM and done R26 pops, too. And if you read my post through the last three years, you see that I have done OK overall as far a price negotiations goes. In the end I got 2 hours of red-hot sex with a killer babe for $120. Definitely worth it for me. Last time I got the Barbarella girl for $100. Raquel was definitely much better value, even at the higher price. Also, in my mind I was comparing to what I pay for an hour at L'uomo or 4x4, and then $120 seems still pretty good.

If I really wanted TLN with Raquel, I would have negotiated for it. I don't feel too safe with these random pickups and do not sleep too well. It's a totally different story when I do take-home from a terma. I am sleeping like a log with these girls in my room, because I know where to find them the next day when they try something funny.

[Ezinho]

I agree wholeheartedly but I think it's a bit poor to post such a stunning picture with no information about who she is or where he found her.
I'm not sure what she's calling herself at 4X4, but that looks like Babalu. She made a bunch of pornos, many for the Brasileirinhas porn company; just google babalu and brasileirinhas and you'll find all her pornos. She's done Mike in Brazil, Pretty Little Latinas, and a bunch of other movies as well.

Some more pics of her were posted here awhile back, compliments of Snooky: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=501177&postcount=1630

Although personally, I'm more of a Vivi Fernandez fan, but that's just me.

[Flexinbk]

I'm not sure what she's calling herself at 4X4, but that looks like Babalu. She made a bunch of pornos, many for the Brasileirinhas porn company; just google babalu and brasileirinhas and you'll find all her pornos. She's done Mike in Brazil, Pretty Little Latinas, and a bunch of other movies as well.

Some more pics of her were posted here awhile back, compliments of Snooky: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=501177&postcount=1630

Although personally, I'm more of a Vivi Fernandez fan, but that's just me.

Detective EzinhoThat's definitely her, but how old is that picture? According to the escort site chantily.com.br the sao paulo section, she is now a brunette. The last time I saw her in 4x4 was 2004. BTW, I think they air brushed her photo just a little bit.

[Jan 156]

VM . . . Is it quicker to get there by taking the metro to centro and then a bus or taxi? Like all men I hate to ask directions, but sometimes you have to swallow your pride.

I reckon it's all a matter of preference and time of day. Buses are slow getting thru town in rush hour for instance. But if you get the metro you might as well stay on either to Sao Cristovao, which some people do as it's fairly straightforward getting to VM from there; or changing lines at Estacio and going one stop Afonso Pena. I'd usually go for either bus or metro rather than a combi.

Cristovao - you come out onto the south side, the fast dual carriageway (unless you are planning a taxi for the last hop, in which case the north side is probably better). Then you walk back towards town along a narrow footpath with lots of fumes blowing in your face till you get to a smelly metal railway bridge on your left, where you turn off (Praca Bandeira).

Afonso Pena - you walk thru a reasonably nice neighbourhood to the same Praca and use the blue footbridge to cross over to the smelly bit.

Either way, it's an idea to check the map before you set out.

A bus, on the other hand, takes you right to Praca Bandeira, so is in many respects preferable (as long as you know when to get off, otherwise it's a long walk back from Cristovao station or further). Buses are just as quick. If you are in Copa near the Metro or aren't comfy with buses, the Metro's an obvious choice. If you are staying up by Pr.Isabel (the Leme end) then the bus saves you walking to the Metro stop. The buses move pretty quick, esp once you're out of Copa.

If money's no object you might as well get a taxi from where you are (unless it's rush hour, in which case still go for the Metro). A taxi first time also helps you orientate yourself (go back by bus or Metro in daylight and you can see where you are and where Praca Bandeira is).

I still steel myself if I have to ask directions - took me several years to pronounce 'Bandeira' recognisably lol . . . ! Of course, asking on here invites the endless arguments about whether buses are 'safe' blah blah but hey we're all grown up

[Leblon]

Last Friday I visited a new "normal" club in Copacabana, by normal I mean there are no working girls. It is just 100 meters from Balcony to the direction of Help.

It is new and at the moment very popular, there is sometimes big queue to get in. After midnight minimum consumption is 50 reais, they said that before midnight it is half.

This place has been hotel before, I saw name Ouro Verde there, but perhaps name is different. From this hotel that one thief escaped and shot some tourist in Balcony, police later shot him.

This place looks small outside, but there were three different rooms for dancing, each of them different music. People there seemed to be young, rich and white, some girls really good looking, a yuppie place.

I went there for curiosity because there was nothing in Balcony. I liked the place, but since I am not young and good looking any more, I drunk fast my 50 reais consumption (and got totally drunk) and went to Help.

But those who like to have a change and/or can still try local girls without money it is worth of visiting. And only 100 meter from Balcony. If that gasoline station in front of Balcony is full of cars then you know that this club is crowded.

[Fats]

I'm not sure what she's calling herself at 4X4, but that looks like Babalu. She made a bunch of pornos, many for the Brasileirinhas porn company; just google babalu and brasileirinhas and you'll find all her pornos.

Babalu is now working in SP. You can find her on various escort websites.

http://www.chantily.com.br/saopaulo/garotas/morenas/babalubrasileirinha.htm

[Rio Lover #2]

Babalu is now working in SP. You can find her on various escort websites.

http://www.chantily.com.br/saopaulo/garotas/morenas/babalubrasileirinha.htm


Fats, are you sure she is in SP?
I talked to Babalu two weeks ago in 4x4, and she said she would be there quite a long time.

RL

[Rio Lover #2]

Oh, I forgot to write, she is a brunette now and has lost some weight.
She looked fantastic.

RL

[Tercar 66]

I have finally got my hotels arranged. I can see a lot of posts on Help including the rates. Any idea on the pick up rates in Franks's bar and Balcony bar for 2 Hours and for full night. Including bar fine if any.

[Off Road]

Balcony has no fine. Girls will range from 50 to 200. Franks is a strip club there is entrance and exit charges, but girls are better looking. I do not recall the prices only there once, by mistake.

[Off Road]

I reported back I had found a nice Help girl to stay with me full time and for 3K per month. Well it lasted 3 weeks. I liked her because she was cute, open minded, calm, on time, affectionate, did not ask for much.
I let her use the computer to email her boyfriends, chat with them, etc (have 2 computers so she used the guest one).
She saw I was texting one of my ex girlfriends and just got so jealous, wanted to break up all the stuff in the house, I told her to go, etc.. she then wanted money to pay for services, I had said I had already paid her for the month, she said that was for last month, WTF? so we just sat there, then she all of a sudden wanted to kiss and have sex for a few hours.
Morning comes, I tell her it is over, I cannot have this drama and mood swings, so leave. she wanted more money, so gave her 300 to get rid of her.

The point is, even if they are not a GF or say they are, they will cheat you and want all they can get. We were perfectly clear it was a business arrangement. I did neglect to specificially say this was for one month and that month was from xxx to yyy. she knew it, just was angry and wanted more. I am so happy I have a nice large safe, but the Plasma was at risk.

Of course she has called a few times since, and it has only been a day.

So, be sure to set exact conditions out, I thought I had but did not confirm an early departure, I should have done a week by week or something.

So back to one nighters or something. Maybe back to the old GF setting some new rules. Note that I am an idiot WRT women, I fall in love with them and like to have just one.

[Perkele]

Gentlemen!

There is something you should know about brasilian women. They are EXTREMELY jealous. It really doesn't matter if they are *****s or not.

Unfortunately it takes enourmous time to train them to behave when they have those mood changes.

So don't try BF/GF games here, you just end up with trouble. Even onenighters will clean your apartment, wash dishes, cook and wash clothes, just ask them. Just make it clear that its business arrangement.

P



I reported back I had found a nice Help girl to stay with me full time and for 3K per month. Well it lasted 3 weeks. I liked her because she was cute, open minded, calm, on time, affectionate, did not ask for much.
I let her use the computer to email her boyfriends, chat with them, etc (have 2 computers so she used the guest one).
She saw I was texting one of my ex girlfriends and just got so jealous, wanted to break up all the stuff in the house, I told her to go, etc.. she then wanted money to pay for services, I had said I had already paid her for the month, she said that was for last month, WTF? so we just sat there, then she all of a sudden wanted to kiss and have sex for a few hours.
Morning comes, I tell her it is over, I cannot have this drama and mood swings, so leave. she wanted more money, so gave her 300 to get rid of her.

The point is, even if they are not a GF or say they are, they will cheat you and want all they can get. We were perfectly clear it was a business arrangement. I did neglect to specificially say this was for one month and that month was from xxx to yyy. she knew it, just was angry and wanted more. I am so happy I have a nice large safe, but the Plasma was at risk.

Of course she has called a few times since, and it has only been a day.

So, be sure to set exact conditions out, I thought I had but did not confirm an early departure, I should have done a week by week or something.

So back to one nighters or something. Maybe back to the old GF setting some new rules. Note that I am an idiot WRT women, I fall in love with them and like to have just one.

[Euro100]

There is something you should know about brasilian women. They are EXTREMELY jealous. It really doesn't matter if they are *****s or not.

So don't try BF/GF games here, you just end up with trouble.

Of course you are right! But for me all this drama adds a little spice that I simply cannot get with a sequence of wham-bam-thank-you-ma'm one-nighters. I want them to fall in love, and I want myself to do it, too.

I know they cheat on me ... just like they cheat on the other guys they claim not to care about, when they take their calls while I am around. ("Honey, with him is just business, for money, but you are special" ...).

And I do the same to them. That's what a safado does, after all.

Now, paying R3,000 for a month to do this dance is a a different story ... If I accept drama, it better be for free ;) Besides, I could not do it for a months, straight. I usually get bored after a week. Then it's rinse, move on, and repeat next time.

[Off Road]

Yeah, even though I thought it was a business arrangement, and we had talked about it, evidently the fine print was not in place. And they do get so Jealous. I guess I do like drama seem to gravitate to it over and over.
I am not a one night person either, I like to go to dinner with a nice gal, have good conversations, and good sex. I was having that, until the fuse hit the bomb. That was about 2 weeks. So per night rates are probbaly best and cheapest.
Just something to learn about and share experiences with others.

[Exec Talent]

These girls are brought up on a steady diet of Novelas. Sometime when you are bored rent the movie French Kiss. The Juliette character is a perfect example of a woman these girls try to emulate.

Many of these girls could win academy awards for their acting abilities. To them, drama means excitement. I have another word for it -- high maintenance.

[Athlete]

I reported back I had found a nice Help girl to stay with me full time and for 3K per month. Well it lasted 3 weeks. I liked her because she was cute, open minded, calm, on time, affectionate, did not ask for much.

I let her use the computer to email her boyfriends, chat with them, etc (have 2 computers so she used the guest one).

She saw I was texting one of my ex girlfriends and just got so jealous, wanted to break up all the stuff in the house, I told her to go, etc.. she then wanted money to pay for services, I had said I had already paid her for the month, she said that was for last month, WTF? so we just sat there, then she all of a sudden wanted to kiss and have sex for a few hours.

Morning comes, I tell her it is over, I cannot have this drama and mood swings, so leave. she wanted more money, so gave her 300 to get rid of her.

The point is, even if they are not a GF or say they are, they will cheat you and want all they can get. We were perfectly clear it was a business arrangement. I did neglect to specificially say this was for one month and that month was from xxx to yyy. she knew it, just was angry and wanted more. I am so happy I have a nice large safe, but the Plasma was at risk.

Of course she has called a few times since, and it has only been a day.

So, be sure to set exact conditions out, I thought I had but did not confirm an early departure, I should have done a week by week or something.

So back to one nighters or something. Maybe back to the old GF setting some new rules. Note that I am an idiot WRT women, I fall in love with them and like to have just one.An old saying comes to mind when I read this.

"cant make a ***** into a housewife!"

[Ryjerrob]

These girls are brought up on a steady diet of Novelas. Sometime when you are bored rent the movie French Kiss. The Juliette character is a perfect example of a woman these girls try to emulate.

Many of these girls could win academy awards for their acting abilities. To them, drama means excitement. I have another word for it -- high maintenance.

Preach on Brother!!!!

[RioFavelaboy]

Rob you and Ex Tal are so damn correct in every aspect man, I was down there last month with a couple of buddies and you guys wouldn't believe man that my buddies GFE and two of her girls are there at the apartment and when 8:30PM hit these girls couldn't be moved from in front of the TV until 11:30, it was like they had tunnel vision,

I kid you not, we actually had time to leave one night, get laid and come back before they even missed us.

They are passionate about the damn Novelas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Off Road]

I have always wondered if they emulate the Novelas or the Novelas portray real life. I guess moot point now, they are the same for the most part. I hate them, hate waiting for the gals and I have a TIVO here that can record them, but NO.. they have to watch them live.. sigh..

[Euro100]

I'm coming to Rio in December.

Aand interested in getting as much info as I can on some termas, bars, clubs.

Question 1 : Top 3 termas (in your opinion)
- names
- where are they located
- total price (entry fee, action with a cutie ;-)

Question 2 : Top bars/clubs (in your opinion)
- names
- where are they located
- best day to go there (if you know)

Thanks for the info!

Hi,

Usually, the answer is RTFF. But the Brazil section is big, and research will take a long time. Since most of us have relied on one major source of information, I am going to point you to it:
http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=565336

Print it out, read it, learn it by heart, then laminate it and put it into your suitcase when you go to Rio. All of your questions will be answered there.

Once you have done that bit of reading, read through all of the reports highlighted in the Reports of Distinction thread. Lots of really detailed reports with very helpful hints.

My personal top three:
termas:
1. L'uomo
1. 4x4
nothing else comes close to these top 2

clubs/bars:
1. Help!
2. Villa Mimosa
3. Balcony

euro

[Abzsafado]

I have finally got my hotels arranged. I can see a lot of posts on Help including the rates. Any idea on the pick up rates in Franks's bar and Balcony bar for 2 Hours and for full night. Including bar fine if any.
Most girls in Franks will ask for R$300 for two hours, don't give them it, start at R$100-150 depending on the quality of the girl. If they walk off no great loss, but bear in mind that a lot of the girls are going home alone with nothing, so they will walk off then come back in ten minutes. I have been in there this week at 3am and nearly all the girls were still there looking for a customer.
Franks have a minimum consumption, I think it's R$40 for two beers or two national drinks, eg local vodka. The bar fine for them leaving is flexible, you don't always have to pay it. But the girls are not free to go until about 3am without the bar fine. Once you see girls leaving without clients you shouldn't have to pay a bar fine. If they insist just leave without the girl and arrange to meet her outside.
They are notorious for padding the bill in there so keep a close eye on it, always check how much a girls drink is before you buy it, generally they will ask for a vodka and red bull or champagne, R$30 a shot. Watch out for them sticking imported whisky or vodka in it, it's double the price
The best looking girls, the ones that do the strip shows and lesbian act don't usually leave until after the show is finished. Best thing with them is to arrange a meet before or after work. Otherwise arrive early and take them for a rapidinho or arrive at 1am for the show have your two drinks and leave.
The best option is to avoid the place altogether and go some where with sensible prices, or meet the same girls in Norgueiras at 4am.
For me Ciccolenes, excuse my dyslexia, and Erotika are cheaper places and the quality of girl is the same. Barbarerellas has far better quality of girl but no beer and a slightly higher price and not quite the same atmosphere. But Franks does have the best show and if you like strip clubs, and don't drink too much it can be a good, but still expensive, night out.

[JWNoot]

My flight arrived at Rio International around 9:30 pm on Thursday. I collected my bag and used my newly acquired knowledge of the bus transportation system to take the R6 bus to Copa. It is a very nice big air-conditioned bus with plenty of luggage space below. It takes about 1 hour to get to the Copa, because it makes it way through centro, past the domestic airport, the Rodovario, and so on. But it also made for a very nice evening city tour. On the Copa, it drives down Av. Atlantica, and I hopped off at the stop close to Help! disco. I knew I had about 8 blocks to my hotel, the Premier Copacabana, which I chose because of its immediate proximity to L’uomo. Since it was close to 11 pm, it may have been inviting trouble to walk to my hotel with my luggage, which includes stuff that I really really cannot afford to have robbed from me. So I took a cab for the rest of the way (R8). Still, the total of R14 for the transport from GIG to my hotel beat the hell out of taking a taxi and shelling out R60 or perhaps R70, like I had done the previous time. Let me put it this way: the difference is 5 or 6 caipis.EURO, great reports! I'm schedule to go to battle in about a week!

I REALLY LOVE the idea of using the bus to get from GIG to Copa, but I need a little clarification:

1. Is the bus that goes to Copa a different bus than the one you took to downtown? If so what is the name of the bus line? R6?(or is that the cost)

2. I am staying at the Marriott. Will the bus drop me off in front? If not, what do you think will be the closest available stop?

Thanks for your help!

JW

[JWNoot]

Couple quick questions for clarication:

What is the name of the bus line that goes from the airport (GIG) to Copa? Is it Real Onibus or something else?

Also, I'll be staying a the Marriott on Avenida Atlantica. Will the bus let me off in front? Or will I have to get off someplace nearby?

Thanks in advance!

JW

[Felipe2006]

Couple quick questions for clarication:

What is the name of the bus line that goes from the airport (GIG) to Copa? Is it Real Onibus or something else? Also, I'll be staying a the Marriott on Avenida Atlantica. Will the bus let me off in front? Or will I have to get off someplace nearby? Thanks in advance!

JWJWNoot, the bus from the airport is indeed Real Bus. Stops right outside the terminal, fare is 6 reais. Ask the driver to let you out in front of the hotel. Ride should take around 90 minutes, depending on traffic. Enjoy.

Felipe

[Sperto]

Couple quick questions for clarication:
What is the name of the bus line that goes from the airport (GIG) to Copa? Is it Real Onibus or something else?
Also, I'll be staying a the Marriott on Avenida Atlantica. Will the bus let me off in front? Or will I have to get off someplace nearby?
Thanks in advance!
JW
That's right, Real. Commonly called "frescão".
They will drop you off right in front of the Marriot.

[Ardgneas]

I have another word for it -- high maintenance.That’s two words!! ;)


1) What is the name of the bus line that goes from the airport (GIG) to Copa? Is it Real Onibus or something else?

2) Also, I'll be staying a the Marriott on Avenida Atlantica. Will the bus let me off in front? Or will I have to get off someplace nearby?1) Yes! Just go 20 or 30 metres to the right after you exit customs and you’ll see the stop. Just make sure you get the bus that is going to Copa (via Centro)

2) Yes, if you ask in time. Try and get the front seat as it has more legroom and gives you a better chance to speak to the driver.

[Veterano]

Yeah and if you can pronounce "Marriott" ~ something like Mah hee hooch

They will NOT understand the English pronunciation

[JWNoot]

Thanks for the info guys!

[Euro100]

1. Is the bus that goes to Copa a different bus than the one you took to downtown? If so what is the name of the bus line? R6?(or is that the cost)

The Real onibus company has two types of buses in operation. The smaller one (25 seats or so) costs 3.2 reais and goes only to centro. It takes a little more than 1/2 hour to get you there. The larger one (50 seats) costs 6 reais (yes, R6 was meant to indicate the cost) and makes the big city tour, first passing through downtown, then going to the domestic airport, then Copa and Ipanema. This grand city tour takes about an hour to arrive at the Copa. At the Copa it goes down Av. Atlantica, which is very convenient for the large tourist hotels.

The larger bus has luggage space below for your suitcase, if you want. Both buses pick up at the same point, right outside the international arrival exit in Terminal 1. (There is also a pickup point outside terminal 2). It says "Real" in big letters on the side of all of these buses, and they have their destinations posted in their front windows in black letters on white cardboard.

The buses are nicely air-conditioned. You can take them, even if you do not speak any Portuguese. Get in, pay the driver (who will even speak a bit of English), and grab a seat. Then, when you see a point where you want to get off, either get up and walk to the front or pull the rip-chord next to the window. The whole thing is very convenient and very safe. The buses leave 2 to 3 times per hour.

I will never take a taxi from the airport again. Remember, the difference in price is about 5 caipirinhas or two sessions at VM ;).
euro

[Exec Talent]

After a long absence, I stopped by Help around 1:30 AM this morning. Other than one girl who used to work at a termas, the pickings were very slim. Based upon the pictures I have seen of VM girls, you might be able to find a better looking girl there.

I ended up with a girl who looked like Tia Carrera when Tia looked like Tia Carrera. She originally quoted me one price for staying until 5:00AM and another for staying until 7:00AM. She woke up around 10:00AM and wanted to have sex again. She just left at noon. I cannot emphasize enough what a difference treating a girl well makes.

I overheard the other day a jerk asking a termas girl whether she liked to have sex with her eyes open or closed. It was so hard not to chime in, with you, definitely closed. He was talking with her like she was 5 years old. More than a little disgusting.

A couple other things -- when you are at a buffet, it generally is considered bad manners to fill your plate, stand right by the buffet and eat (with plenty of seats available) then put more on your plate. Also, if someone does not understand English, yelling at them them in a slower, louder voice does not help. Candidly, I hope the exchange rate goes to 1:1. I am so tired of apologizing for some of the ignorant Americans here. And, incidentally, if someone does act like they don't want to talk with you, do take it personally. They don't want to talk to you. You have done or said something that causes them not to want anyone to think you are a friend.

[Exec Talent]

Stopped by Solarium and ran into a girl I had originally met at #204 in Copa. Later I had a threesome with her and another girl and she was awesome. Then her phone stopped working. After I leave Rio, I will be certain to post her name. Major sweetness.

Overall, I thought the quality of the talent was pretty high. I have heard guys that have been around say they think it is the best Copa termas right now. It is hard to beat the large number of good looking girls at Centaurus, but I would have had no problem going with several of the Solarium girls including one looker who recently left L'uomo.

[Rss910]

Hey I can't find any pricing info for threesomes in termas. Can anyone direct me or tell me the prices? Centaurus, L'oumo, 4x4 or any recommended spots?

[Da Kine Kid]

I have a question, how do the girls in general feel about overweight guys? I'm not obese in appearance by any means, but I'm definitely overweight. I'm 6', 250 and carry it reasonably well on a muscular frame. Is this a big turn off for girls there?

[Lorenzo]

I have a question, how do the girls in general feel about overweight guys? I'm not obese in appearance by any means, but I'm definitely overweight. I'm 6', 250 and carry it reasonably well on a muscular frame. Is this a big turn off for girls there?
The only thing they're concerned about is the weight of your wallet. Being overweight might be an impediment to getting freebies or scoring with non pros, but with GDPs, nao e problema. I carry a few extra pounds myself, and it's never been a deterrent for me.

L

[Da Kine Kid]

Hi,

Usually, the answer is RTFF. But the Brazil section is big, and research will take a long time. Since most of us have relied on one major source of information, I am going to point you to it:

http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=565336

Print it out, read it, learn it by heart, then laminate it and put it into your suitcase when you go to Rio. All of your questions will be answered there.

Once you have done that bit of reading, read through all of the reports highlighted in the Reports of Distinction thread. Lots of really detailed reports with very helpful hints.

My personal top three:
termas:
1. L'uomo
1. 4x4
nothing else comes close to these top 2

clubs/bars:
1. Help!
2. Villa Mimosa
3. Balcony

euroThat article is like a BIBLE!! What a great resource, I wish I'd found it before i shelled out money for my shitty lonely planet guide, as this is infinitely more useful and informative in every regard.

Thanks to everyone who made this priceless resource possible!

[Pipe Layer99]

Ask at the from desk to be sure about the policy.

I can tell you at 4x4 its R160 to take a girl to the room and R320 for 2 girls.

Had the idea to get two and save on the room rate before. So when I got there, I asked if the rates were split for the girl and the room. I was thinking 100 for the girl and 60 for the room. I was told no, its one rate 160 for the girl and room.

Now at Luomo and Solarium its R130 for the girl and R60 for the room = R190
So you may be able to get two girls for 130 + 130 + 60 = R320

Funny thing, the price ends up the same. But, it all depends on what you want that evening.

Fot that reason, I usually take one girl for 40 min and then get another girl for another 40 min. At least this way I'm getting more with both girls for my dough.

Have fun, Donnie




Hey I can't find any pricing info for threesomes in termas. Can anyone direct me or tell me the prices? Centaurus, L'oumo, 4x4 or any recommended spots?

[Pipe Layer99]

Treating a girl well (or I prefer to say nice) can pay off, but always keep your guard up. Remember these girls will try to get all they can and then some.

No need to apologize for the ugly acting person over there. Everyone is different and they come from all walks of like. I've seen them and when I do I choose to ignore them. No need for the monger policeman.
I just continue to be myself, be polite, and move on.

When I've been in Rio, I've always met up with fellow mongers and we hang out and have fun. It doesn't matter if its at 4x4, MP, TA or Help. I still keep in touch with numerous and we even plan trips.
Then on the other hand, I've also seen some people and to be polite/cool, I'll nod - some folks who don't reply or care to converse. They act like stuck up and think they are someone special. You can meet the same jerks in Chicago, NY, Miami, wherever. Again, when I run into people who act like that, I just move on and go find the girl of my next dream.

So if someone visiting doesn't want to talk to another person, maybe they are just being ignorant or stuck up. Either way - move on, ignore them and have fun.


...She originally quoted me one price for staying until 5:00AM and another for staying until 7:00AM. She woke up around 10:00AM and wanted to have sex again. She just left at noon. I cannot emphasize enough what a difference treating a girl well makes.

... I am so tired of apologizing for some of the ignorant Americans here. And, incidentally, if someone does act like they don't want to talk with you, do take it personally. They don't want to talk to you. You have done or said something that causes them not to want anyone to think you are a friend.

[Bizzie]

After a long absence, I stopped by Help around 1:30 AM this morning. Other than one girl who used to work at a termas, the pickings were very slim. Based upon the pictures I have seen of VM girls, you might be able to find a better looking girl there.
Hey ET,
If Help is like this now, then what (other than Termas) would you recommend for take away.
Termas are fine but the whole time-limited aspect has its drwbacks at times.
Biz

[Lorenzo]

Now at Luomo and Solarium its R130 for the girl and R60 for the room = R190
So you may be able to get two girls for 130 + 130 + 60 = R320
Would that this were true! L'uomo charges double for the room when you take two girls; I found this out the hard way. However, I have heard this is not the case at other termas.

[Euro100]

Hey ET,
If Help is like this now, then what (other than Termas) would you recommend for take away.
Termas are fine but the whole time-limited aspect has its drwbacks at times.
Biz

Just to add my two cents: I was at Help last week, and it was as good as ever. So ET may have been there on a slow day (or I may have lucked out ...). Help is still the only Help.

[Euro100]

Would that this were true! L'uomo charges double for the room when you take two girls; I found this out the hard way. However, I have heard this is not the case at other termas.

Yep, and the reason is that you cannot really do the deed with two girls in one of those ultra-small normal rooms. Just not enough space in there for three people on that twin-size bed. So you need to go to the suite for a dupla.

[Pipe Layer99]

Would that this were true! L'uomo charges double for the room when you take two girls; I found this out the hard way. However, I have heard this is not the case at other termas.

Oh - Luomo charges double room rates for 2 girls?
Thats why I wrote always ask at the desk about their policy first.
I thought Luomo and Solarium were two who do it right.

I believe Monte Carlo charges double room fees for 2 girls as well. Since I don't like MC - its no worry for me. No plans on going back there any time soon. A few months ago they padded my bill with 3 extra beers. I refused to pay the extra charge. They called one of the bartenders down and of course he did not recall. I stood my ground and repeated I had 1 water, 1 red bull and 3 beers. So they took 3 beers off. I was like WTF.

In any case, if anyone wants 2 girls at a terma - ask at the front desk about the charges first. I personally don't care to pay R120 for 40 minutes. Thats BS since the room is already rented with the first girl.

[Voyajer1]

This is a Google translation of an article about problems at 4 X 4. Can anyone on the ground check this out? Is (gulp) 4 X 4 closed?
http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mat/2007/10/11/298103331.asp
RIO-Technicians of Cedae and police Chief of Defense Services Delegates (DDSD) flagraram, at the beginning of this afternoon Thursday, irregularities within two meters of spa 4x4, in the streets Buenos Aires Customs 44 and 43, at the center of the River Also found was a connection illegal, known as "cat" who attended the place.

During the operation, baptized as Cat adultery, the two meters from the spa found with irregularities were taken by police. They also found a connection illegal, a pipe of an inch in diameter, that illegally supplied the place. The manager of the spa was taken to the station. A new unit is being installed at the site by the technical Cedae.

Technicians from the Cedae are estimating the time that the cat the local sources to calculate the value of the fine. "

[Exec Talent]

Just to add my two cents: I was at Help last week, and it was as good as ever. So ET may have been there on a slow day (or I may have lucked out ...). Help is still the only Help.

Help was still help. There was music, drinks, lots of cigarette smoke and 250+ women. Unfortunately, most, like has been said before, "were not worth traveling 10 hours for." I was there at 1:30 AM -- maybe all the top talent already left.

Or, maybe I am spoiled. I have a book of top Rio talent. There is no reason to call in the second stringers.

[Exec Talent]

After leaving L'uomo empty handed (the girl I wanted to be with was off and I forgot to call her ahead of time), I went to Monte Carlo. I was glad I did. Because some other places are so mismanaged and the girls really dislike management, Monte Carlo gets some of the better girls. The girl I had used to be at L'uomo. Another, whom I will see today, came from Centaurus.

Bizzie -- often times a termas is good for shopping. Find a girl you like and make arrangements to meet her either after/before work or on her day off. However, even with the girls I regularly see outside, I still see inside for appearances sake. The girls love to tattle on each other. However, if you are seeing a girl on their time too, management still complains but they put up with it.

BTW, the girl at Solarium with whom I had an awesome time had applied at L'uomo and was turned down. She is fair skinned and L'uomo mostly has dark skinned girls now. Centaurus is just the opposite. I saw one dark skinned girl out of about 50 girls there.

[Madd Love]

This garota, invited me back to her apartment for a threesome, with her friend.

Cheers fellas

[Madd Love]

More Garota's I was with from BR.

Cheers fellas

[Coats001]

Yep, and the reason is that you cannot really do the deed with two girls in one of those ultra-small normal rooms. Just not enough space in there for three people on that twin-size bed. So you need to go to the suite for a dupla.They have special 40 min rooms, that are sligthly larger than the normal ones, for duplas at most Termas.

[Sperto]

More Garota's I was with from BR.
Cheers fellas
Very nice pics.
I guess all of them are not Rio girls? Northeast?
Backgrounds?

[Lorenzo]

Yep, and the reason is that you cannot really do the deed with two girls in one of those ultra-small normal rooms. Just not enough space in there for three people on that twin-size bed. So you need to go to the suite for a dupla.
No, even this won't help. I took 2 girls to the Supersuite and got charged double for the room, and of course for 2 girls, which altogether cam to a hefty piece of change. Best to avoid duplas at L'uomo unless you want to pay through the nose.

[El Austriaco]

This is a Google translation of an article about problems at 4 X 4. Can anyone on the ground check this out? Is (gulp) 4 X 4 closed?
http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mat/2007/10/11/298103331.asp
No, nothing to worry about. According to above article, technicians of CEDAE (Companhia Estadual de Águas e Esgotos - State Water and Sewage Company) as well as representatives of DDSD (Delegacia de Defesa dos Serviços Delegados - Utility Service Defense Office) detected an illegal piping hookup and water meters at 4 X 4 and are determining how long this practice has been going on and what fine to apply. So apparently, this has nothing to do with the usual activities at 4 x 4.

EA

[Brugal8]

More Garota's I was with from BR.

Cheers fellas

Excellent pics madd love


The girl on the top and the end of the pics where did you get her??

Also you have a pic of a girl that looks a lot like a brazilian model called Bruna Ferraz. is it her? if it is where did you hook up with her?

What about the rest of the girls, where did you get them?

[Ardgneas]

RIO-Technicians of Cedae and police Chief of Defense Services Delegates (DDSD) flagraram, at the beginning of this afternoon Thursday, irregularities within two meters of spa 4x4, in the streets Buenos Aires Customs 44 and 43, at the center of the River Also found was a connection illegal, known as "cat" who attended the place.

During the operation, baptized as Cat adultery, the two meters from the spa found with irregularities were taken by police. They also found a connection illegal, a pipe of an inch in diameter, that illegally supplied the place. The manager of the spa was taken to the station. A new unit is being installed at the site by the technical Cedae.

Technicians from the Cedae are estimating the time that the cat the local sources to calculate the value of the fine. "To summarise, the authorities have found an illegal supply of "pussy" going into 4x4 that is attending in there and getting wet in the name of adultery. The amount paid will depend on how long the "pussy" has been supplied for.

Sounds like a normal day at 4x4!!

[Ardgneas]

Excellent pics madd love

What about the rest of the girls, where did you get them?I agree, some good pics in there particularly the first 3 or 4. The girl sitting on the bed is very pretty.

The second girl (in the denim shorts) looks very familiar from Copa although I can't recall exactly where I've seen her.

[Chris H]

I agree, some good pics in there particularly the first 3 or 4. The girl sitting on the bed is very pretty.

The second girl (in the denim shorts) looks very familiar from Copa although I can't recall exactly where I've seen her.

Gotta agree, that 2nd girl looks very familar. I think I saw her at HELP back in July, and I know I wanted her VERY BAD, but had to many other options early in the night, and when decision time came, she was gone.....

Chris H

but it could have been a girl that looks like her.

[Madd Love]

2 of the girls I met in Sao Paulo and the rest I met in Rio through a friend. None of the girls I met in help.

[Sky Ryder]

Hello all,

I am going to spend the last weekend of Oct in Rio and have a tentative plan which I would like a little input should you find the time. I read Bubba's report and many others and am more than impressed by the depth of the local knowledge. I also appreciate the individual feedback I received earlier.
It seems that with the weekend the choices of termas narrows because those in centro close. I am still a little confused about what kind of place VM is exactly. Also if the beach bars and places like Balcony are like some of the chica bars in BsAs or more like a strip club in the U.S.
It seems that going to Ipenema during the day on Saturday would be a good start and then finding a bar along the beach to have a drink and check out local talent.
I planned on dining and then making my way to Terraco Atlantico to await entering Help. I gather that Saturday's bring out some of the part timers looking to supplement their normal income, and some of the girls from the closed termas, is this an accurate assesment?
Sunday seems like an instant repaly although I may visit another beach. I am wondering if there is a good bar to have a drink while taking in the sites on the sand?
As far as Monday, I want to find a good complete massage and then prepare for the voyage back to sex prison, full of great memories of garotas on my mind.
It seems that the escort agencies in Rio have a decent reputation as well if things don't go as planned in othe venues.

Thanks in advance for the feedback!

Sky

ps Thanks to Full Throttle for the help!

[Exec Talent]

Finally somebody gets it!!!

Went back to MC tonight because I ran out of time last night and there was a girl I definitely wanted to see. The receptionist last night mentioned to me they have a special promotion which amounted to R$50 discount. I checked their site today and it was not there. When I arrived, I commented to the new manager Gabriella that I did not see it and she said I should have gotten an e-mail. I said I get e-mails but not that one. She immediately called one of the owners and said to me, "no problem, we will give you the discount and make sure you are on the list." I also signed up for their frequent visitor program which gives you a free entrance with R$500 spent. As I was leaving I told her that I thought the drinks were too small and too expensive and that they would sell more (and make more money) if they were larger and cost less. She said she would bring it up with the owners.

Another thing I noticed tonight was the bar boys keeping the ashtrays especially clean and fewer of the girls smoking. For Sheila fans, she was at MC tonight. I think her name is Melody there. And for the guys who like bigger bundas, MC is definitely the place.

In case anyone is curious the kind of things that pisses me off about the manager at L'uomo. The other night I had just finished an hour session with a girl and she wanted some special food since she didn't like what they were serving. Just as she sat down to eat, the manager grabs her and tells her she has to get back to work. No problem. It costs me a lot less to see the same girls all night after hours. Is it no wonder all the staff and girls would rather work somewhere else. In fact, one of the former bar men is now working at MC.