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Exec Talent
10-16-07, 01:24
I had an interesting discussion with a girl who used to work at Centaurus. It seems that it is management who is behind the girl's aggressive behavior. She told me that management is on them all the time to get the clients to the rooms and they are not allowed to sit very long with a client. She got tired of it and left.
One Eyed Man
10-16-07, 03:20
I had an interesting discussion with a girl who used to work at Centaurus. It seems that it is management who is behind the girl's aggressive behavior. She told me that management is on them all the time to get the clients to the rooms and they are not allowed to sit very long with a client. She got tired of it and left.
You get this idea pretty loud and clear when they want you to pay upfront when you go in. A girl once talked me into a second round, and they wanted the money upfront--I couldn't believe it, especially after I had already coughed up R$290 that I probably wasn't going to fuck and run.
I also haven't been to Centaurus in a long time, since all I got was CBJs, though I've been reconsidering, since recent reports have been so positive. It may be a while longer before I return.
The sad thing is that the short-sighted petty-greedy management doesn't realize is that, if people came there and felt comfortable (not ripped off, since they demand money upfront), people would come and have a good time and return often, and THEY COULD MAKE EVEN MORE MONEY! However, they'd rather have the bird in hand even if they scare off the repeat business.
The sad thing is that the short-sighted petty-greedy management doesn't realize is that, if people came there and felt comfortable (not ripped off, since they demand money upfront), people would come and have a good time and return often, and THEY COULD MAKE EVEN MORE MONEY!
Maybe, but till now Centaurus is still by far the busiest Terma of Copa. Management is still in the position that they can increase pricing as anyway it's packed and they can't handle having more customers. As long as people continue coming, they will not change policy. It's a mystery for me, but L'Uomo at some nights has not more than 3 or 4 guests while on the same time Centaurus has up to 60-80.
More Garota's I was with from BR.
Cheers fellasYour Garota 2-f, she's listed in the Dominican Section of Latineuro.com as Mary. The first one is your foto, the others are fotos from LatinEuro.com.
When exactly did you meet her, her LatinEuro.com fotos are from '05-06.
The "room fee" is a polite name for what the house makes when you take a girl. The house wants to make SOMETHING, especially if it's a place like 4x4 which waves the entrance fee if you session before 5. Prostitution is legal in Brazil, but pandering is not. So they call it a "room charge" for that reason--they can't exactly call it a "pimp fee." No use getting upset about it. Every time any girl goes to a room, the house wants to make money. That's just business.
Exec Talent
10-16-07, 12:41
Maybe, but till now Centaurus is still by far the busiest Terma of Copa. Management is still in the position that they can increase pricing as anyway it's packed and they can't handle having more customers. As long as people continue coming, they will not change policy. It's a mystery for me, but L'Uomo at some nights has not more than 3 or 4 guests while on the same time Centaurus has up to 60-80.
Centaurus is closer to richer areas of Rio (Ipanema, Leblon) and many Brazilians go there. They do not pay the upfront fee and pay R$20 less. You can too. Just tell them at the front you are not sure you want a girl tonight and that you do not pay the tourist tax. When I hand them R$80 (used to be R$70) they always hand it back to me and tell me to pay after. Before, if I did multiple sessions, I too had to go to the front and pay. Not anymore. Used to really [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off especially since I could have 3-4 suite sessions at L'uomo and no one blinked an eye.
Also keep in mind that often Brazilians do not session. So they may be there, but only drinking. I asked the MC girl (who used to work at Centaurus) and who spent the night with me last night, why she didn't work at Solarium (she lives right there). She said -- too many Brazilians. The girls don't like them because all they want to do is hang out, suck face and cop a feel. If they do session, unlike many foreigners, it is one time because they have to get home to their wives.
Personally, the reason I still go to Centaurus is that it has by far the largest number of good looking girls. I also like the live music.
Exec Talent
10-16-07, 12:46
Kcrl01,
If I ever am in need of a private investigator, may I call you?
Good job!
Hi all,
I was just wondering if anyone knew if the hotel excelisor is a guest friendly hotel as I'm booked into there for my first stay. I would love some more input as to the quality expected at both l'uomo and MC as they seem the logical choice close to my hotel and I would like to meet some fellow hobbyists before veturing to help as it doesn't seem like the place to go solo.
Cheers
Exec Talent
10-17-07, 00:58
So I talked with the new manager, Gabriella, at MC yesterday about the size of the drinks and today -- they were in bigger glasses. Amazing how some people actually listen. Next, maybe I will talk with her about getting some girls with smaller butts!
In case anyone is curious the kind of things that pisses me off about the manager at L'uomo. The other night I had just finished an hour session with a girl and she wanted some special food since she didn't like what they were serving. Just as she sat down to eat, the manager grabs her and tells her she has to get back to work. No problem. It costs me a lot less to see the same girls all night after hours. Is it no wonder all the staff and girls would rather work somewhere else. In fact, one of the former bar men is now working at MC.
Man, they must have ticked you off big time at L'uomo. This used to be your favorite terma. I suppose I'll give MC a try next time. (In particular if they now have bigger drinks :D). But to L'uomo's credit: Peter still makes the best caipiroska that I know.
Help was still help. There was music, drinks, lots of cigarette smoke and 250+ women. Unfortunately, most, like has been said before, "were not worth traveling 10 hours for." I was there at 1:30 AM -- maybe all the top talent already left.
Or, maybe I am spoiled. I have a book of top Rio talent. There is no reason to call in the second stringers.
I guess there is no substitute for the pure spectacle of Help! But I agree with the quality not being what I expected and left Help alone on 2 different nights.
What are your thoughts on sharing a page from that book, ET. I am a real nice guy:)
El Austriaco
10-17-07, 18:41
I am still a little confused about what kind of place VM is exactly. Also if the beach bars and places like Balcony are like some of the chica bars in BsAs or more like a strip club in the U.S.
In the Reports of Distinction section, you will find some good, recent reports on VM, including a whole series by Tungurahua (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=636288&postcount=68). They should give you a good idea of the nature of Vila Mimosa.
As to the bars like Balcony or Meia Pataca, they are certainly no US-style strip clubs, nor are they anything like the chica bars in Buenos Aires, as far as I can see. Essentially, they are run-of-the-mill beachfront (not directly on the beach !) restaurants/bars like so many others in Copacabana, with the only distinction that every Brazilian woman (except for the waitresses and staff) in there is hooking, period. In other words, they are just gathering places for hookers, and whatever you negotiate with a girl there is entirely between you and her. No onsite facilities, no table or lapdances, no takeout fees: management makes only money through the increased influx of mongers/hookers and whatever money they spend there. Just like Help. That's it.
It seems that going to Ipenema during the day on Saturday would be a good start and then finding a bar along the beach to have a drink and check out local talent.
Sunday seems like an instant repaly although I may visit another beach. I am wondering if there is a good bar to have a drink while taking in the sites on the sand?
Both in Copacabana and in Ipanema, there are waterfront bars and restaurants, yes, but they are not directly on the beach. IMHO, your best bet for people-watching would be to simply stop in one of the quiosques (stands) along the waterfront promenade, there are tons of them in both Ipanema and Copa. Directly on the beach, you might also want to rent a chair and umbrella from one of the guys on the beach: some of them also offer food and drinks (choppe, caipirinhas). I can specifically recommend Tiao at Posto 9 in Ipanema (hope he still is there).
EA
No offense taken. To me it's all relative. She was smoking hot; I wanted her; I go her at a price that I thought was OK. I have hunted at VM and done R26 pops, too. And if you read my post through the last three years, you see that I have done OK overall as far a price negotiations goes. In the end I got 2 hours of red-hot sex with a killer babe for $120. Definitely worth it for me. Last time I got the Barbarella girl for $100. Raquel was definitely much better value, even at the higher price. Also, in my mind I was comparing to what I pay for an hour at L'uomo or 4x4, and then $120 seems still pretty good.
If I really wanted TLN with Raquel, I would have negotiated for it. I don't feel too safe with these random pickups and do not sleep too well. It's a totally different story when I do take-home from a terma. I am sleeping like a log with these girls in my room, because I know where to find them the next day when they try something funny.
When did this trip happen? She has been back in Florida for a while now. Ive been with Raquel too and she is alot of fun,plus her body is super tight (best boob job, Ive ever seen) I used to mess with her sister and she was incredible!!
When did this trip happen? She has been back in Florida for a while now. Ive been with Raquel too and she is alot of fun,plus her body is super tight (best boob job, Ive ever seen) I used to mess with her sister and she was incredible!!
Just a couple of weeks ago. I am glad you enjoyed Raquel, too. Presumably Raquel's sister is off the market now, because she is married in NY ... but one never knows ;)
The Watcher
10-18-07, 05:26
Next, maybe I will talk with her about getting some girls with smaller butts!
There is no butt like a Brasilian butt. Asking for less butt is like asking for less ice cream! lol
Please tell me you were kidding.
If you are not, we need to have a serious talk! lol
Exec Talent
10-18-07, 05:42
Walked in and was not asked to pay upfront. I had a session with a new girl (2nd day) who was awesome. It is great to get them before they learn bad habits from the other girls. How I knew she was new was I happened to notice she was staying pretty much to herself and looked a little out of place. Sitting with me, she was extremely affectionate and there was no hard sell. When I asked her if she wanted anything to drink she said no. In the room she delivered on each and every promise she made in the bar. Affter we returned to the bar, she actually asked the manager if it was OK for her to give me her number. The manager said no, however that did not stop her from slipping it into my robe later.
I also saw another very hot girl who was still working at L'uomo about a week ago. Asked her why she left, although I already knew the answer -- the manager.
I would say there were about 60 girls. Many who could give a dead man wood. There were a lot of Brazilian guys, particular after the football game was over, and not many gringos. The music was great as usual and I even danced with the manager.
Prices were: Entrance - $80, Room -- $80, Girl -- $150 = $R310.
The standard room is large and has a sink. Something not found at other termases. A knock on the door singals the end of your session rather than the ring of a phone.
The garcon's there are very professional and I was happy to give them a little tip.
I stand by my statement in an earlier post that Centaurus has by far the largest number of good looking girls of any Copa termas.
I stand by my statement in an earlier post that Centaurus has by far the largest number of good looking girls of any Copa termas.
I agree, I will always visit Centaurus atleast one time during a trip to Rio. If any monger can afford it do an all Major-Terma tour I did it my last trip and I had a great time matter of fact that was best trip ever each trip keeps getting better and better!!!!
Exec Talent
10-18-07, 12:20
There is no butt like a Brasilian butt. Asking for less butt is like asking for less ice cream! lol
Please tell me you were kidding.
If you are not, we need to have a serious talk! lol
Although like Arnold says, "It is all about the bunda."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiyNb96-Jw4
I like them in the 34-36 range. MC has some pretty girls, but almost out of nowhere, these massive butts appear. I know that does it for a lot of guys. Just not me. Check out the bundas in the video. Many are tight little bubble butts. Mmmmm, I think it is time to go! Somewhere in Rio a new bunda is calling.
Although like Arnold says, "It is all about the bunda."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiyNb96-Jw4
Cute video. Probably not a brazilian bunda in the video though. Maybe we need a bunda thread. Like ET I have seen some gigantic ones, they do not do it for me. I have grown to love well shaped ones, living in Rio just gets you loving to look at the nice curves of bundas, and they truly know how to use them (dancing and sex).
It is not really possible to compare Brazil Bunda to USA bunda, gringas just do not have it.
The Watcher
10-18-07, 15:45
Although like Arnold says, "It is all about the bunda."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiyNb96-Jw4
A video discussion about bundas cannot be complete without "Baby Got Back"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_SI8dJ4KUA
Without apologies to Sir Mix-A-Lot, when the massive butts at MC appear, even ET gotta shout, "Baby Got Back" lol
Bowery Kid
10-18-07, 22:43
Hello, friends,
Thank you for all the great news in these reports.
And just wanted to give others a heads up.
I have been in Rio for 6 days now.
Had no problems till today.
In mid day on a busy street was approached by four children caught off guard due to relaxed mood and thought they were just begging tried to grab any jewlery around my neck (didn't have any) reacted quickly though and slapped the snatcher then waited in defensive mode for any other attackers.
Although the street was filled with people no one seemed to want to help?
I thought one small chld was gonna pull a knife!
So I proceed to attacked which scared him off!
With the others (wewh! )
Be wary off small band of children looking like beggars!
I am lucky I was not wearing any jewlery as they would have snatched it and ran off.
This has happened to me in ny as well so it is not a reason not to come just be weary and ready.
I have had a wonderful time here and met the most beautiful people in my stay here.
I will surely be back.
Bundas are my favorite in Rio - and this is one of my favorite bundas.
Bundas are my favorite in Rio - and this is one of my favorite bundas.
DRI: Deep Rectal Inspection!!!
IT
Last week I was at Meia Pataca…
Just got there from the hotel when arrived… jet lag, tired, and no desire to really hunt. So I sat down and consider for a couple of hours the girls (between 5 and 7 p.m.).
There were 20/25 girls, oldies over 30, a couple of big silicon titted DD size, really ugly, some others uninteresting, some young black with heartbreak ass, but not a nice face… and some more… And of course some American and European mongers, mostly young blacks and old whites (60 or more…).
Only four girls were, IMHO, interesting…
A young nice natural red (really white skinned) I saw only when already started talking with Fernanda, otherwise I would have gone for her hoping she was not shaved. I love red bush! And two other girls. One was sitting not so far from me normally clothed, jenas and a jeans jacket, not like a pro… 19-20 years, nice white skinned light brown hair, no make up at all. Cute. Seemed a young college girl. Wow! Trying to make some eye contact but she was just waiting for another… guy!
When he arrived she transferred to another table with another girl, and when I looked closer to them it came up they were clearly sisters! :D Working separately. It was a pity I was so tired and sucked off, otherwise I would have been trying to get in touch with one for getting in bed with both. :D The other one was younger, I think just 18 or so. Could be a real nice duo. They are not beauties, but you can get in any bar or restaurant with these two girls and nobody will think they are pros, simply normally looking teens or so.
Instead I hooked up Fernanda, a nice petite chocolate coloured C cup titted girl… I will explain on her later.
By the way the prices at Meia Pataca become outrageous: 48 R$ for a mixed grilled meat (I did not take it because I know it’s not good), just chopp, at 3.50 R$ plus service. I paid in a nice and elegant churrascaria close to my Hotel (15 meters from Av. Atlantica) 49 R$ for the meat, the salad, three beers and a coffee, and it was very good, and well served in an elegant atmosphere, but it’s RIO, if you want fresh and uncooked meat you have to pay!
(look hotel section soon fot hotel, phone, chance and churrasco tips).
IT
She was one of the few I preferred in the Meia Pataca small slection of apcetable girls last week (on Friday early evening).
I had a thought flight from EU getting in Brazil very early, got a work half day in Sao Paulo and then took the airbridge got in town around 4 p.m. went there fast. Had no real lust, and was trying to get another girl (the schoolgirl looking teen!).
It became cold and I got inside, she felt it too, and was going in too. But to another table, saw her well from half meter (I chose the table near the door), so I offered her a seat.
Chit chatted a little, so she turned out to be 24 (true seen the ID when registering) and from some far city (fake she is from RJ) being there only a week every month because to dangerous…
Making a long story short we decided to walk back to my hotel (10 min) for a long evening tour including Anal for 300 R$... surely overpaid but I was tired and wanted to go in bed… and seh asked even for more... Ah sorry before getting to MP I got a 20 mg Cialis :D (it was approx three and a half hours before, and I was horny too).
Nice face, green (fake) eyes, did not see out like a who**, 160 cm or so, 48-50 kgs, C sized tits, with some small implants, big nipples, nice pussy and tattoos, did not want naked pics. She had some birth scares (said she had a boy).
All covered, but nice talk and GFE (Spanish/Portuguese), a real good cow girl and I could see all the work on my rooms mirror! :) Rear entrance was tight, but well run! Surely not a BJ specialist or something else, but cow girl was really good, and ended in a real heavy way as I like, missionary anal too… no talks on COF or so :(
Despite the jet lag and so on a well four hour running with three good shots! And a lot of kissing cuddling etc.
When going away she asked for a tip for taxi and I agreed… not a bad evening I slept very well… Deciding to spend the weekend in Rio, unfortunately with a dinner reserved in Sao Paulo Sunday evening with working friends...
IT
Bundas are my favorite in Rio - and this is one of my favorite bundas.Whoa! Does that bunda have a name? Beautiful skin too!
I found a web site called Hotside this seems to be a clearing house for GDPs
Does anyone know if its any good?
Also there is one girl called 'Sharon' supposedly an ex TV dancer real name is Gabriela Paixao I think anyone have any info on her.
Thank you for your time.
Daidalus
Member #4680
10-20-07, 18:07
Bundas are my favorite in Rio - and this is one of my favorite bundas.
Love that ass. I have to make to Rio one day.
Capa
Member #4680
10-20-07, 18:21
[QUOTE=Madd Love]More Garota's I was with from BR.
Cheers fellas[/QUOTE
That picture should be my wallpaper.
That ass is perfect.
Capa
Full Throttle
10-20-07, 20:09
It Had to Happen Sometime….
300+ different girls in the past few years, over 200 in Rio with relatively no problems. But, with those numbers, complacency set in and it was only a matter of time until I had an unpleasant experience.
After an afternoon of beach kiosk-hopping and hanging out at the remodeled Meia Petaca (one must ask why), I took my wingman to the Balcony Bar around 8pm. Compared to my previous experiences there, I found the girls more attractive, although fairly dark in general. The beer was good and there was plenty of seating.
Presently, we met two girls separately: Camila and Camilita. I need to be careful here as one was very good while the other was a disaster.
Camilita was quite nice. She spoke some English and, after a while, gravitated from me to my wingman (She was a tiny bit heavy for my taste). Since it was his first time, I negotiated for my wingman. We ended up at 200R for all night plus taxi. Strangely, she was not interested in eating, drinking or dancing first, but wanted to go right to the room. They had a nice time, but she was ready to head back out around midnight while my buddy wanted to sleep. So, he docked her around 50R and sent her on her way. I didn’t endorse the move, as I think she earned her money, but to each his own. So, again, Camilita was the good one.
Camila is a very sexy girl. She may be 5’1”, a nice smile, speaks good English and is a fun flirt. The negotiations are where things became complicated. The temporary documents she was using due to having her purse stolen would not be acceptable at my hotel, which left the short-time motels down the street. I looked at the documents and they appeared legitimate and I estimated her age north of 20, she was hot, and I was buzzed, so I didn’t stress too much about the age issue. Also, I’d never been to a short-term motel in Copa, and thought it would be a new experience.
I told her I would pay no more than 150 for an hour in the early evening, and I already had a hotel so the 40R would come out of her salary. She agreed to 110R plus the room and we left on foot.
On the way there she started complaining about the lack of money. I tried to explain that I would be a good customer because I often enjoy daytime sessions when it was hard to find business for her. She didn’t seem to grasp the economics, but we pressed on.
The motel was reasonably nice. The rooms are twice as large as Monte Carlo or L’uomos standard rooms, are clean, have free porn, and a full bathroom. The staff was friendly.
Upon entering the room, she got undressed and asked that I did. She had a marvelous, lean body. Presently, she asked for the money. I quickly thought about the circumstances. She was already a bit irritated about the money, she was naked (did I mention how good she looked?), and I was horny. So, I handed her the 100R and kept tip money separate but visible to her. She started with a fantastic BBBJ that transitioned into sex within a minute. I pulled out to slow things down and have some fun, and she immediately started whining and complaining about the money, again. Then, she told me that there was NO way she would do me for an hour for that money. It would be short term. She kept arguing and arguing. She complained that she wanted taxi money. Taxi money? We WALKED from the Balcony Bar to the motel! No, she wanted taxi money to go home, then return to Help. Unbelievable!
One thing led to another and, when her phone rang, she said, “times up!” and hopped out of bed. Total time so far: 8 minutes. Finally, I argued back. Actually, I’d given up on the fun sexual experience several minutes prior and was chiding her a little. I tried to explain economic theory to her, but resorted to proclaiming that she was so stupid that she would be living in a favela in five years without a penny to her name. She defensively stated that she lived in a favela now, to which I responded, “Good, so you’ll be used to it.”
So, I paid 150R to see a girl naked, a 45 second BBBJ, and 30 seconds of sex, then 2-3 minutes of BBBJ which doesn’t really count since I was limp as a dishrag for that portion of it. Feel free to give me the “always pay later” lecture. I’ve given it many times myself, but sometimes circumstances dictate taking a risk. And sometimes risks end up poorly.
I stopped outside of Help, which was very busy, talked to some garota friends, went to Shenanigans and watched a pathetic Monday Night Football game, then to my hotel. At 3:00am, a friend from Help called. 30 minutes later, she was there. I told her about my troubles and she softened the blow by staying all night and most of the day for 120R. She’s special girl, though.
Hey Full Throttle. Was this the girl who you had a problem with? Her name is Camilla and she basically pulled the same shit on me. (Everyone can now yell at me about the "pay after" routine) I grabbed her in front of Help around 9PM. I am not normally atracted to small women, but as you can see from the pics, she had a nice booty on her for a small girl. We agreed to 150 for 2 hours.
She stripped naked as soon as she got to my apartment, then asked me the money upfront. Whens he saw my facial expression, she was like "Where am I going to go? I am already naked at your apartment, I just dotn want me to screw me over and not pay". Like an asshole, I payed her the money. No more than 10 seconds after she put the money away, she started with the rules. She doesn t like to give head for too long and she doesnt want me to fuck her hard because she is small and she cant stay a full 2 hours for 150R.
I was pissed for having been had, but I chalked it up to a learning experience ad promised I would never pay upfront again. She gave a 30 second BJ (excellant skills I might add) followed by a 2 minute cowgirl. She then said that she was tired and asked me if I could fuck her doggystyle so I could go ahead and cum. When we got into position, she again warned me not to fuck her too hard.
After about 4 minutes of doggy style, she fell forward and said she was exhausted and expressed shock that I hadnt cum yet. I got so angry that I just stood up and grabbed her clothes an told her to leave. (I really wanted to toss her little ass out of my 4th floor window) She quickly got dressed and hightailed it out of my place.
Well I guees Karma was on my side!! She was in such a hurry to leave, that she left her nice expensive ring and necklace on my dresser!! HAHAHAHA!! She called me the next day asking if I coul meet her somewhere and bring them to her. I told her that I would SELL her things back to her, for the price of 100R!! (Karma is a ***** young lady!!!) SHe started protesting that she wasnt going t pay me for her things, to which I told her I didnt like paying 150R for 9 minutes of sex. I them told her if she wasnt willing to pay the 100R, then I would sell her things in the street!
Camilla never called me back, to pay me for her ring and necklace, so I just gave them to another girl I knew from Help. It was a really nice ring and necklace, worth much more than 100R, ,my girl was thrilled. She had no idea it was used!!!
Full Throttle
10-20-07, 21:41
Bravo,
Why doesn't Karma ever work like that for me?
Definitely the same girl and some of the verbeage was identical (My variation: "I can't have sex with out for an hour for 100R").
I think two bad experiences with two different senior members warrants placing her pictures in the "scam and ripoff" forum.
Sorry about your troubles, but at least I don't feel like it was just my bad personality anymore.
FT
Mistermsla
10-20-07, 22:26
Does anyone know if Leme Othon Palace is guest friendly?
Mistermsla
10-20-07, 22:40
Does anyone know if Luxor Regente and/or Leme Othon Palace is guest friendly?
Full Throttle and Bravo:
Excellent reporting. I put both of your accounts into the ROD thread.
Confession time: I have also paid up front a couple of times and felt like a sucker afterwards. Both times I was drunk, but luckily I did not get ripped off afterwards.
BTW, I think I remember that little spinner hanging out outside of Help!. I thought she was hot, but now I am really glad that I did not try to bag her.
Mr Enternational
10-21-07, 02:46
I stopped outside of Help, which was very busy, talked to some garota friends, went to Shenanigans and watched a pathetic Monday Night Football game,
FT, you sure as hell better not be talking about my beloved Falcons!
Hey Full Throttle. Was this the girl who you had a problem with? Her name is Camilla and she basically pulled the same shit on me.
So Bravo why in the heck didn't you tell us about this and show the pics before now? You could have saved FT 150 reais and there is no telling how many other mongers on the board have fallen for her shenanigans. I will be sure to pass the word though to those I know who are not on this board.
Now when I get a girl who asks for the money up front, I say sure no problem, it's normal to pay up front, give me a minute.
Then after a pause I say Sheat I left my bolsa inside Help and I have to go back and get it, come with me and we will return in a minute.
When I get to the entrance of Help I tell her to wait here. I go into Help and leave her outside waiting for me, I never return, teach that beach a lesson.
Rio Bob I like how you think!
I found a web site called Hotside this seems to be a clearing house for GDPs
Does anyone know if its any good?
Also there is one girl called 'Sharon' supposedly an ex TV dancer real name is Gabriela Paixao I think anyone have any info on her.
DaidalusDaidalus,
Most of the freelancers in Rio advertise on Hotside including a high percentage of the hotter, high-end ones. Hotside also has a forum with useful reviews of freelancers (comparable to GPGuia.net, but you need to register).
I can't vouch for the reliability of all girls listed on Hotside but I do see a few familiar faces and I don't think there's much risk of bait-and-switch. Generally when you try and call Hotside, you will find that fewer of the girls are actually available compared to Karla's, but many girls on Hotside are hotter and cost a bit more...including Sharon.
I think Sharon is one of the best high-end freelancers in Rio. She has the 2 key ingredients locals love most - a supernatural ass and a willingness to perform anal. Great, enthusiastic service with lots of kissing. No idea if she was a TV dancer like the site says but she's certainly pretty enough and I'd recommend her. She works out of a nice apartment right across from the Meridien hotel. A small shopping arcade is on the ground level. If you're not familiar with the area, you'll want to arrive by taxi and stop directly in front especially if arriving at night.
You could also invite her to a short-time motel...but personally I don't think there's any risk in visiting a smart, serious professional like Sharon in her own apartment, it's not the same as following a random girl from Help back to her place. In fact, once you spend some time in Rio and settle in, you'll find that visiting a freelancer at her flat is a very convenient and enjoyable way to spend a couple hours - basically because you don't have to deal with the motel or wait for the girl to show up.
The price listed on Hotside is not quite accurate - I think it's more like R$250 for an hour + $20 "apartment tax." I doubt she speaks much english but not to worry.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Bravo,
Why doesn't Karma ever work like that for me?
Definitely the same girl and some of the verbeage was identical (My variation: "I can't have sex with out for an hour for 100R").
I think two bad experiences with two different senior members warrants placing her pictures in the "scam and ripoff" forum.
Sorry about your troubles, but at least I don't feel like it was just my bad personality anymore.
FT
Now that I think about it, she did mention that she lived in a favela. While we were headed to my apartment, I asked her if she liked Help and she said she never goes. When I asked why, she said "Because if no man wants me, I have to go home alone and its very dangerous for me to go into the favela at night by myself".
Sorry I didnt post this up back in May 2006, I might have saved you some money. My bad!
In my experience even if you get them to accept the money afterwards it's still a losing proposition, once they ask for the money upfront no matter what it's going to be bad.
Now when I get a girl who asks for the money up front, I say sure no problem, it's normal to pay up front, give me a minute.
Then after a pause I say Sheat I left my bolsa inside Help and I have to go back and get it, come with me and we will return in a minute.
When I get to the entrance of Help I tell her to wait here. I go into Help and leave her outside waiting for me, I never return, teach that beach a lesson.Thanx, I have to use this one sometime!
One of the guys here asked me a question, who and were?
This bunda belongs to Marcia, one of the girls hanging out on the beach in front of the Othon Palace hotel (but she told me she would be in Italy Oct-Dec). On the weekend it is full of families there, but during the week there are many GDP's.
Many of them are not just pleasant to the eye, but also nice and friendly girls. Just smile at one you like, and if she smiles back, walk up to her and start a conversation. Interestingly they don't like it if you just make a picture of them on the beach, without a little small talk first.
Look for FISCAL's umbrella, he is a funny guy, and his assistant Fernando is eager to please, constantly running for more Skol and pouring cold water on your feet, to keep you cool.
I found a web site called Hotside this seems to be a clearing house for GDPs.
Does anyone know if its any good?
Also there is one girl called 'Sharon' supposedly an ex TV dancer real name is Gabriela Paixao I think anyone have any info on her.
Thank you for your time.
DaidalusI have used Hotside several times while staying Sao Paulo and I have yet to be disappointed.
I found a web site called Hotside this seems to be a clearing house for GDPs.
Does anyone know if its any good?
Also there is one girl called 'Sharon' supposedly an ex TV dancer real name is Gabriela Paixao I think anyone have any info on her.
Thank you for your time.
DaidalusMy mistake. Sampa was SexDreams. Hotside was Rio.
Now that I think about it, she did mention that she lived in a favela. While we were headed to my apartment, I asked her if she liked Help and she said she never goes. When I asked why, she said "Because if no man wants me, I have to go home alone and its very dangerous for me to go into the favela at night by myself".
Sorry I didnt post this up back in May 2006, I might have saved you some money. My bad!She looks like a little chica that used to dance on the stage at Help a few years ago. I always wanted to check her out but she just looked too young. Looks like Karma was looking out for me. Sorry, that it happened to you.
On Saturday, not yesterday, but a week ago I was trying to get out the jet lag after a day of work and a couple of hours with Fernanda (already reported).
I slept late, went for a walk and a couple of fresh coco nuts (it’s one of my best refreshments) and went early, 12.30, to a churrascaria, just 30 meters from the hotel (reported in Hotel section). At 2 p.m was back and tired of eating too much so… I took a Cialis and went to bed! :D And slept well… some hours. Of course I was horny relaxed when I got up, so I decided to phone Ciaplus.
I already got some nice girls a couple of years ago… like Andressa (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=403247&postcount=585 and
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=403249&postcount=586 ) so why not?
Of course it was Saturday and it’s not in the “Happy Hour” so the price for 4 hours was 300 R$ instead of 200 R$... OK! I was asking for some girls doing Anal and BBBJ, but none was available and the girl in the telephone proposed me Nanda, one of those I had not chosen because doing nothing… I explained and the girl told me not to worry because she was not even “completa”, but “completissima”!
OK I went for her. Was at the reception half an hour later.
A nice girl (see the pics) speaking only Portuguese, but a really good GFE… so four hours with a horny IT Travel!
After a drink (some pictures) and some simple chatting we went directly to shower and bed where she started a BBBJ without even asking… :)
She started riding me in cow girl, my favourite position for normal sex, really good: nice tits, big nipples to suck, and a crazy mouth and tongue. And I could see her in the room mirror riding like a crazy girl!
Physically she is as described and pictured at http://www.ciaplus.com/nanda/ just a little more soft. You can imagine that she has 4-5 kgs more than what she should to be a model… nice and soft, perfect for sex! By the way the pussy is even tighter than the rear entrance because she gave birth to a girl with surgical system (I do not know now the name in English) so she has a thin long horizontal scar just in the bikini area. No other scars. And a real wonderful mouth!
Of course my first shot was quite quick… so horny… and the took a pause. Some drinks again and I wanted to explore the completa! A real nice BBBJ and two, with a short pause, full anal penetrations, both in my favourite missionary, still tight. Took nearly a couple of hours. The last was longer and nice. Over her, with her legs over my shoulders, and holding her wrists and trying to get out of her all I could! I saw some pain on the face, still really my action moment! :D
I was even kissing her and her tongue is fantastic… nearly like Uliana’s one (a Ukrainian girl, but she is not even for BJ, but when she kisses you...!).
At the end I did not even think to finish like usual with tit fuck and COF, the sex was so hard and nice so I decided to cum there…
Was exhausted so we took a pause, watched the television, etc, before the mandatory finish… a long long cow girl ride wile my tongue was going from nipples to her mouth! Ohhh! I think she managed to ride for more than half an hour (thanks Cialis!) :)
Finally she got the 300 R$ plus the mandatory 50 R$ for taxi.
I was thinking It’s a pity that tomorrow I have to fly to Sao Paulo, otherwise tomorrow eveing I would have been testing her for all the night… If you speak a little with the girl in the telephone I think you can get her for an overnighting, with good sex in the morning for some at 600 R$ or less. And I think there is no problem with BBBJ with CIM of COF and even taking pictures… if ther is just offer her 50 R$ tip (mind that she gets half or less of what you pay so 50 R$ is like 100 or more…)
Here the photo links.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=657617&postcount=1910
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=657618&postcount=1911
IT
If you speak a little with the girl in the telephone I think you can get her for an overnighting, with good sex in the morning for some at 600 R$ or less.
Now, wouldn't this be overpaying? Even in Rio? Maybe she was a gem and lovely and a pleasure in all aspects - but it is hit and miss, and this is what you get from help girls for about half that price.
Just my 2 cents...
Pyjama
Now, wouldn't this be overpaying? Even in Rio? Maybe she was a gem and lovely and a pleasure in all aspects - but it is hit and miss, and this is what you get from help girls for about half that price.
Just my 2 cents...
Pyjama
I know Help, but for getting those good ones you have to stay there at leat up to 1 a.m. I was alredy sleeping... and by the way yes she is a lovely gem, and for the night I think it would be worth...
By the way if you tke her for six hours in the day, on normal week days it will be only 300...
IT
I know Help, but for getting those good ones you have to stay there at leat up to 1 a.m. I was alredy sleeping... and by the way yes she is a lovely gem, and for the night I think it would be worth...
By the way if you tke her for six hours in the day, on normal week days it will be only 300...
ITThere are a lot of hot girls in Rio to choose from, you can just walk away and find another hot girl or someone thats hotter. You don't have to over pay. If they can get one guy to over pay they will tell their friends and will expect overpayment from everyone. When you over pay they have power over you and your money and feel that she is in control. You are the guy and should always be in control of the situation even if you feel like that the price is higher than normal GDP prices, you should stand by your price or the normal rate for a GDP. Paying more is not going to prove anything for a GDP except that she can tell her friends how much she got you for. And they will do the same. Remeber these woman run into a lot of men and can run game.
There are a lot of hot girls in Rio to choose from, you can just walk away and find another hot girl or someone thats hotter. You don't have to over pay. If they can get one guy to over pay they will tell their friends and will expect overpayment from everyone. When you over pay they have power over you and your money and feel that she is in control. You are the guy and should always be in control of the situation even if you feel like that the price is higher than normal GDP prices, you should stand by your price or the normal rate for a GDP. Paying more is not going to prove anything for a GDP except that she can tell her friends how much she got you for. And they will do the same. Remeber these woman run into a lot of men and can run game.
I know but Ciaplus has a fixed scheme of prices...
100 R$ on weekdays ending before 18.00 for 2 hours.
Two girls including lesbian 240 etc...
In the other hours it's 150 for two hours so....
Nothing to do!
I knew I overpaid in Sao Paulo, but...
if you go at www.ciaplus.com you will see by your own.
IT
Some additional info....
When I rented Nanda she was just added to www.ciaplus.com, now she has also all the stars (all with a meaning . As I supposed she is doing all you can imagine, including oral completo, meaning BBBJ with CIM and also lesbian. So if somebody wants her…. Look at the pics posted last week, she is soft and willing, tight pussy and always ready for anal (a little bit too wide for been 20, do not even need lubrication!) and BBBJ… Could be perfect for a dupla with Viviane or Sheila, unfortunately I did not think so long, they could even make cum swapping… :D
IT
Just an info...
I brought this in Rio.
Somebody knows... sold as equivalent, not generic, to Cialis.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=658898&postcount=1250
IT
El Austriaco
10-22-07, 23:00
Just an info...
I brought this in Rio.
Somebody knows... sold as equivalent, not generic, to Cialis.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=658898&postcount=1250
IT
IT,
I haven't tried Vigamed, but back in 2006, a Rio pharmacist once talked me into another alleged "equivalent" of Viagra, called Vasoviril (manufactured in Brazil by Pharmascience Laboratórios Ltda). Just like in the case of Vigamed, the active ingredient is mesilato de fentolamina (mesylate phentolamine), 40 mg, a box contained four pills. I don't remember the exact cost any more, but I think it was around R$ 50.00 or so. I bought them for a friend who was looking for generic Viagra, but later, he reported that the pills were essentially useless - an assessment that echoed assessments I had read on different Internet forums, too. I also found an earlier report here on ISG (http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=411944&postcount=588)
From what I have read, Vigamed seems to be a generic version of Vasomax approved for sale in Brazil.
As I mentioned, I have yet to try it myself, but I certainly will report back here once I do. But generally speaking, I would stick to the original stuff in Brazil. It's cheap enough... and no prescription required.
EA
Good N Plenty
10-23-07, 00:22
I think I'm prepared. I 've read tons & will try to make few mistakes, but a buddie to stategize is half the fun! Anyone going to be there?
Exec Talent
10-23-07, 12:31
As I mentioned, I have been trying the normal girl route. So I thought I would put together a top ten list from my experiences to help fellow adventurers know when they are with a normal girl.
TOP TEN WAYS YOU KNOW YOU ARE WITH A NORMAL GIRL
10. She doesn’t get naked immediately upon entering the apartment
9. She thinks the vibrator you have in the bathroom really IS for facial massages
8. She pulls her top up rather than down when she catches you looking at her breasts
7. Kisses are more like a scene from Blue Lagoon than Debbie does Blue Balls
6. When you ask her if she would like something to drink, she doesn’t ask for a Red Bull and vodka
5. She doesn’t remember your name and use it repeatedly while she strokes your hair
4. Her concept of working is a job at the mall, not a night at Help
3. You never catch her humming, Mr. Lonely.
2. She doesn’t ask you – one hour, two hours or TLN
And the NUMBER ONE way you know you are with a Normal Girl ….
She has all her pubic hair!
As I mentioned, I have been trying the normal girl route. So I thought I would put together a top ten list from my experiences to help fellow adventurers know when they are with a normal girl.
TOP TEN WAYS YOU KNOW YOU ARE WITH A NORMAL GIRL
10. She doesn’t get naked immediately upon entering the apartment
9. She thinks the vibrator you have in the bathroom really IS for facial massages
8. She pulls her top up rather than down when she catches you looking at her breasts
7. Kisses are more like a scene from Blue Lagoon than Debbie does Blue Balls
6. When you ask her if she would like something to drink, she doesn’t ask for a Red Bull and vodka
5. She doesn’t remember your name and use it repeatedly while she strokes your hair
4. Her concept of working is a job at the mall, not a night at Help
3. You never catch her humming, Mr. Lonely.
2. She doesn’t ask you – one hour, two hours or TLN
And the NUMBER ONE way you know you are with a Normal Girl ….
She has all her pubic hair!
I will have to post this on the bathroom mirror so I don't forget. LOL
ryjer
Traveller08
10-23-07, 19:10
can anyone tell me the price for a therapeutic massage (problems with the column) in brasil?
by the way, any good adresses are appreciated as well.
thanks
RedKaplan31
10-23-07, 23:13
I think I'm prepared. I 've read tons & will try to make few mistakes, but a buddie to stategize is half the fun! Anyone going to be there?Hey Prime7 me and a buddy will be in Rio the first two weeks of Nov. First time mongers of Rio but well experienced elsewhere. If you want to swap stratagies let me know.
Mr Enternational
10-24-07, 04:17
As I mentioned, I have been trying the normal girl route. So I thought I would put together a top ten list from my experiences to help fellow adventurers know when they are with a normal girl.
TOP TEN WAYS YOU KNOW YOU ARE WITH A NORMAL GIRL
And the NUMBER ONE way you know you are with a Normal Girl ….
She has all her pubic hair!
Now that is fucking funny. I am telling you after being with so many working girls and then moving to a normal one down in Brazil or anywhere else, I am always like why do you have all this fucking hair? I get accustomed and the abnorm to most people becomes the norm to me.
can anyone tell me the price for a therapeutic massage (problems with the column) in brasil?
by the way, any good adresses are appreciated as well.
thanks
you can find some good massage people on the beach, about r$1 per minute.
Huge thanks to Euro, Sperto, and others for their recommendation to use the Real bus from the airport to Copa!!
It is exactly as described. I walked past the taxi booths to the outside of the airport and there were two large buses and one small bus waiting to load passengers. These buses resemble charter buses in the US. I found the one with the COPA sign in the window, gave my luggage to the attendant to put underneath, and walked on the bus. Before paying my fare, i informed the attendent that i needed to be dropped off at the JW Marriott on Avenida Atlantica. He nodded an affirmative, I payed my R6 fare and grabbed a seat two rows behind him, and prepared for my *tour* of rio!
Honestly, this was a great experience as I have not spent to much time in Centro. Being able to drive through and see the locals walking the streets, was exciting to see. Haven't had this experience in a taxi from the airport before! My *tour* concluded immediately in front of my destination, the JW Marriott. The driver unloaded my luggage and wished me good luck.
Shame on anyone who doesn't take advantage of this cost effective, SAFE, comfortable, and relaxing resource!
JW
Exec Talent
10-24-07, 21:32
I had a wonderful dupla at Monte Carlo last night. We were going to go to the suite but the manager suggested we go to the special room for forty minutes and at the cabine price. I paid R$60 for the room (nice with mirrors all around) and R$130 for each girl. I liked the room, but forty minutes was not nearly enough time.
Have I mentioned I really like the new manager there. I found out last night that she used to be a receptionist. I actually don't remember her, but I must have been nice to her because she sure goes out of her way to make sure I have a good time. Last night she also saved me a few dollars because I think they charge twice for the suite and I would not have been able to use my internet coupon which was good for R$60.
Be sure to sign up for their frequent visitors program. Spend R$500 and get a free entrance.
BTW, they have added some new girls recently who have smaller butts. The Watcher, do you think maybe the manager reads this forum?
I had a wonderful dupla at Monte Carlo last night. We were going to go to the suite but the manager suggested we go to the special room for forty minutes and at the cabine price. I paid R$60 for the room (nice with mirrors all around) and R$130 for each girl. I liked the room, but forty minutes was not nearly enough time.
Have I mentioned I really like the new manager there. I found out last night that she used to be a receptionist. I actually don't remember her, but I must have been nice to her because she sure goes out of her way to make sure I have a good time. Last night she also saved me a few dollars because I think they charge twice for the suite and I would not have been able to use my internet coupon which was good for R$60.
Be sure to sign up for their frequent visitors program. Spend R$500 and get a free entrance.
BTW, they have added some new girls recently who have smaller butts. The Watcher, do you think maybe the manager reads this forum?
By any chance, is the new manager( former receptionist ) blonde, in her late thirties or early forties, speaks english, and actually quite f*ckable?
can anyone tell me the price for a therapeutic massage (problems with the column) in brasil?
by the way, any good adresses are appreciated as well.
thanks
have not tried it yet. but you can call and find out. i was told they speak english.
http://www.dordecoluna.com.br/
el greco
Hey guys,
I'm in Rio soon and my sat. Flight home leaves at 10: 40pm. Figure I need to be there at 9pm. What do you guys suggest as an afternoon entertainment venue sat. Late afternoon considering I have luggage and am staying at the Sheraton?
Brazil a few years back,
Some friend wanted me to post.
I had the same type of flight and the same type of question on my trip. First what I did was asked my hotel if I could check out late. I asked for 2 pm. Then I slept in late that morning till about 11 am. Got up, packed my bags and stuff and checked out late. Left my bags at the front desk and went over to 4 x 4. Someone had suggested taking my bags to the terma and I did see people who did that, but I choose not to. I was not concerned about my clothes in the terma, but my electronic stuff. Maybe I was too paranoid about taking my bags to the terma. Oh well. After a few hours at the terma, went back to the hotel area, got dinner at the restaurant near the hotel, went back to the hotel, picked up my bags and off to the airport I went. The hardest thing is realizing you have to pull yourself away from this place and leave. Was it the cheapest way to do things, from a cab perspective here and there? No probably not, but who cares unless you are a cheapo in which case you should not be going to Brazil anyway.
The other thing you could do would be to just pay for another night at your hotel, but that would depend on the cost of the hotel. Then you could eliminate some of the cab fees depending on which terma you are hitting and the terma cost and get an escort or some girl from the beach area cheaper. Then again, that depends on the hotel and really what you like to do and you would have to do some calculating to figure out which way would be better.
There are probably other ways to do this, but that is what I did and it worked like a charm and I had a great time except when I had to leave.
Hey guys,
I'm in Rio soon and my sat. Flight home leaves at 10: 40pm. Figure I need to be there at 9pm. What do you guys suggest as an afternoon entertainment venue sat. Late afternoon considering I have luggage and am staying at the Sheraton?
The Watcher
10-25-07, 17:37
BTW, they have added some new girls recently who have smaller butts. The Watcher, do you think maybe the manager reads this forum?
I certainly hope she doesn't read this forum - we could all be in trouble! lol
I think the most plausible answer is that you actually told her of your desire for smaller butts and, like so many other brasileiras, she succumbed to your charms! As you know, I have seen you in action! lol
Hey guys,
I'm in Rio soon and my sat. Flight home leaves at 10: 40pm. Figure I need to be there at 9pm.
I always get the late flight out. 9p is probably closer to boarding time. (Maybe 9:15-30.) You need to be at the airport at 8:30p at the latest. If you're flying coach, there will be a line. It's not just getting your boarding pass, you have to go through immigration too. Usually they only have 2 immigration officers on duty. More often than not, there is a long line.
And let's not forget traffic, on a non congested highway, its 45min from Copa to the airport. Give yourself plenty of time, lest you miss your flight.
I always get the late flight out. 9p is probably closer to boarding time. (Maybe 9:15-30.) You need to be at the airport at 8:30p at the latest. If you're flying coach, there will be a line. It's not just getting your boarding pass, you have to go through immigration too. Usually they only have 2 immigration officers on duty. More often than not, there is a long line.
And let's not forget traffic, on a non congested highway, its 45min from Copa to the airport. Give yourself plenty of time, lest you miss your flight.
I don't know what the situation is now, but when I left Rio in September, there was an 1-1:30 hour long line at immigration. I was taken by surprise.
Love BR girls, here is some more garota's I was with.
I notice guys leaving their bags in the locker room at 44 and personally I marvel at this
How 'bout checking them at the hotel?
Pipe Layer99
10-26-07, 05:20
You can go anywhere, since you are not leaving til 10.40. You can call in some entertainment, or go to a terma. Just be sure to get back to your hotel to get your stuff by 8.30. You will get to the airport with plenty of time to spare.
Have fun. I'll be ther in less than 2 weeks.
Hey guys,
I'm in Rio soon and my sat. Flight home leaves at 10: 40pm. Figure I need to be there at 9pm. What do you guys suggest as an afternoon entertainment venue sat. Late afternoon considering I have luggage and am staying at the Sheraton?
You can go anywhere, since you are not leaving til 10.40. You can call in some entertainment, or go to a terma. Just be sure to get back to your hotel to get your stuff by 8.30. You will get to the airport with plenty of time to spare.
Have fun. I'll be ther in less than 2 weeks.Heres what I did: I left my apartment with my luggage, went to Monte Carlo. They stored my luggage (manager's office). When I finished, they loaded it into the cab and off to the airport!
Heres what I did: I left my apartment with my luggage, went to Monte Carlo. They stored my luggage (manager's office). When I finished, they loaded it into the cab and off to the airport!
4x4, Solarium, Aeroporto L'Uomo and probably the rest will store your luggage for you. They are used to gringos doing a last terma run before heading to the airport. A few reais tip is always appreciated for the service.
Full Throttle
10-26-07, 14:10
I don't know what the situation is now, but when I left Rio in September, there was an 1-1:30 hour long line at immigration. I was taken by surprise.
There was a quasi-job action going on.
there was a quasi-job action going on.
i heard that after the fact, but the two immigration guys were doing their job (at what seemed to me) regular speed. i'm suggesting not to cut it too closely, unless everything is completely back to normal.
Hey guys,
I arrive in Rio on 29th in the morning
I am looking for information on where I can find
1. Young slim hardbodied girls (white/latin) 18 to 19yrs old model type with great tits
2. A young slim beautiful black girl model type. Where would this type of girl go to work?
Prices?
I need a total knockout to celbrate my birthday the 30th.
Pipe Layer99
10-27-07, 20:46
Hey guys,
I arrive in Rio on 29th in the morning....
1. Young slim hardbodied girls (white/latin) 18 to 19yrs old model type with great tits
2. A young slim beautiful black girl model type. Where would this type of girl go to work?
Prices?
I need a total knockout to celbrate my birthday the 30th.
Go to any of the termas mentioned on the board. I personally prefer 4x4 and Solarium. You may find more at Centaurus (I've never been). IMO its too expensive compared to the other talent available. Think R110 more for the same quality of girls and service.
4x4 has a great selection - can't go wrong there. While Solarium is a smaller place, they do have some killer looking babes in there. You can also try T65 and Cancun.
Prices run about R40 - 60 for entrance and R160 - 190 for a girl. Depends on the terma. Also if you take a girl before 5pm, some waive the entrance fee. You can also get free entrance at Solarium on Mondays - perfect for your arrival. Go to their web site now and look for promocoes, click on the top ad, fill out the short form (Name, age, have you been there - yes or no and your email), click ok. You'll get a reply email with the discount. Print it out and take it on a Monday.
Have Fun
Punter 101
10-29-07, 10:48
I thought you guys might enjoy some scenery pics of Leblon beach. Here's a nice pic of a topless sunbather. Not very normal but you can find them every once in a while!
For those of you interested, that's the Sheraton Rio in the background (and the not so nice falevas behind it)
Enjoy!
I tried to post a map of Centro some time ago with the knock shops marked. But it was too big to get past the forum rules. If I shrunk it, it didn't show the necessary detail. Centro is pretty easy once you get the hang of it but can be a footslog in tiring circles for the newcomer. Of course, most of the maps you get just show you the main tourist bits and aren't much good for serious multi-location mongering.
The Ruas (Carioca A-Z) is a bit bulky for most people and you can only buy it when you get there (my map was based on pages scanned in from Ruas with additional markings for the many mongering spots). But today I saw the new(ish) Time Out Rio de Janeiro guide, which is pocket sized and has some of the most useful maps I've seen. Very easy to read, and includes most of the smaller Centro streets you need to find. The Lonely Planet equivalent, although well referenced to non-monger places of interest, is indecipherable by comparion.
A bonus is that (in T/O) there is a map that clearly shows named roads leading to and in Vila Mimosa.
(Techies might even want to scan the maps and put them on a good mobile phone - one where you can zoom on the picture display. I used to do this is Centro, where it's mostly quite safe, within reason, to walk around with an expensive phone. Use a cheap 'n' nasty phone when you're in Copa or VM.)
Needless to say T/O and LP don't include handy symbols for bundas, rates etc, You have to add those yourself from ISG <g>
I am finally back from Rio trip and want to thank all my fellow mongers for their informative posts and PM. Rio was my 30th mongering destination and I wanted it to be special. I spent 5 nights and had the 5 prettiest girls for all those nights. I had to choose between a hotel and apartment, I chose hotel as they have breakfast as well as room service for cleaning. I managed to get Hotel Astoria for per day USD75.00 + 50 Rials to take a girl to the room. Excellent hotel with excellent breakfast, walking distance to the beach, balcony bar, Hepl and Lumno therma.
Day 1. I arrived Sao from Dubai at 6.30 pm , journey 15hrs 30 minutes. Since I was told there was nothing much to do in Sao I took the 9.30 TAM flight to Rio approx 100 Usd . I changed some USD at the Sao airport the rate is very bad 158 rials for 100USD.Arrived the hotel at 11.30 pm I had made a pre arranged transfer to avoid any taxi problems. The hotel gave me 180 Rial for 100 Usd. I then took a shower and went to balcony bar. As I was very tired I picked up a pretty black female to 100 Rial for 2 hours. I don’t remember her name but she gave me a good massage and 2 pops. I remembered the word completa and made sure all gave me one. I took some good quality condoms from Dubai.
Day 2. I went to the beach in the morning and then in the evening at 4.30 went to see a football match at the Meracana stadium Rio VS Sao. These guys really love football and most of the supporters wear the T’shirts of their favorite team. Selling t’shirts outside the stadium is a big business. At night I went to the famous Help. The cover charge was 23 Rials before midnight. That day Brazil forwarded the Clock one hour ahead . I believe the do it every year to save energy. In Help I picked up Claudia and beauty that looks like escort models. She asked for 350 Rials for the full night but I negotiated for 200 Rials. She agreed to my surprise may be because it is now off season. The sex she gave me the entire night was unbelievable.
Day 3. I went to vist Corcovado and city tour in the morning. In the afternoon I went to see a massive gay parade on the Copa\Ipanema beach. There was a lot o Samba dancing and music that I enjoyed. At night I again went to help, picked up Vanessa for 200 Rials for the night. Again an excellent worker and worked hard on me all night.
Day 4.Did not do much in the morning, just hung around on the beach. There are plenty of pick ups on the beach if required. I requested the hotel staff to take me to Villa mimosa. He obliged and took me in his car after his duty . Plenty of hookers I did not go in as it looked like a hard core joint. I then went to Frank’s bar to pick up for the night, seemed too expensive. I went to Balcony bar and picked up a cute babe, I don’t remember her name excellent tits for 150 Rials for the night.
Day 5. Being the last night , I went to Therma Lumno, It is more for guys who come with families and the can have a good quickie and come back to the family. At night I went to Balcony bar and picked up a pretty female , Her name is Falvia, she looks like Julia Roberts in pretty woman. She did not ask for money and told me to give her whatever I wanted. I gave her 150 Rials when she left.
The next morning I took a bus from Rio to Sao . It costs 68 Rials and very comfortable. It takes around 6 hours and from the bus stand there are busus that took me to the airport. I will surely relish the memories of RIO for a
I am finally back from Rio trip and want to thank all my fellow mongers for their informative posts and PM. Rio was my 30th mongering destination and I wanted it to be special. I spent 5 nights and had the 5 prettiest girls for all those nights. I had to choose between a hotel and apartment, I chose hotel as they have breakfast as well as room service for cleaning. I managed to get Hotel Astoria for per day USD75.00 + 50 Rials to take a girl to the room. Excellent hotel with excellent breakfast, walking distance to the beach, balcony bar, Hepl and Lumno therma.
Day 1. I arrived Sao from Dubai at 6.30 pm , journey 15hrs 30 minutes. Since I was told there was nothing much to do in Sao I took the 9.30 TAM flight to Rio approx 100 Usd . I changed some USD at the Sao airport the rate is very bad 158 rials for 100USD.Arrived the hotel at 11.30 pm I had made a pre arranged transfer to avoid any taxi problems. The hotel gave me 180 Rial for 100 Usd. I then took a shower and went to balcony bar. As I was very tired I picked up a pretty black female to 100 Rial for 2 hours. I don’t remember her name but she gave me a good massage and 2 pops. I remembered the word completa and made sure all gave me one. I took some good quality condoms from Dubai.
Day 2. I went to the beach in the morning and then in the evening at 4.30 went to see a football match at the Meracana stadium Rio VS Sao. These guys really love football and most of the supporters wear the T’shirts of their favorite team. Selling t’shirts outside the stadium is a big business. At night I went to the famous Help. The cover charge was 23 Rials before midnight. That day Brazil forwarded the Clock one hour ahead . I believe the do it every year to save energy. In Help I picked up Claudia and beauty that looks like escort models. She asked for 350 Rials for the full night but I negotiated for 200 Rials. She agreed to my surprise may be because it is now off season. The sex she gave me the entire night was unbelievable.
Day 3. I went to vist Corcovado and city tour in the morning. In the afternoon I went to see a massive gay parade on the Copa\Ipanema beach. There was a lot o Samba dancing and music that I enjoyed. At night I again went to help, picked up Vanessa for 200 Rials for the night. Again an excellent worker and worked hard on me all night.
Day 4.Did not do much in the morning, just hung around on the beach. There are plenty of pick ups on the beach if required. I requested the hotel staff to take me to Villa mimosa. He obliged and took me in his car after his duty . Plenty of hookers I did not go in as it looked like a hard core joint. I then went to Frank’s bar to pick up for the night, seemed too expensive. I went to Balcony bar and picked up a cute babe, I don’t remember her name excellent tits for 150 Rials for the night.
Day 5. Being the last night , I went to Therma Lumno, It is more for guys who come with families and the can have a good quickie and come back to the family. At night I went to Balcony bar and picked up a pretty female , Her name is Falvia, she looks like Julia Roberts in pretty woman. She did not ask for money and told me to give her whatever I wanted. I gave her 150 Rials when she left.
The next morning I took a bus from Rio to Sao . It costs 68 Rials and very comfortable. It takes around 6 hours and from the bus stand there are busus that took me to the airport. I will surely relish the memories of RIO for a
Tercar, how does the rio experience compare with the Dubai scene? Pros and cons? eg. cost, womens attitudes, access, etc. Thanks!
Tercar, how does the rio experience compare with the Dubai scene? Pros and cons? eg. cost, womens attitudes, access, etc. Thanks!
Good question, thanks! I'd also appreciate such comparison since I'm thinking about flying to Dubai soon..
Full Throttle
10-30-07, 15:46
Good question, thanks! I'd also appreciate such comparison since I'm thinking about flying to Dubai soon..
Something about pumping all of those tourist dollars into that place bothers me.
But, if it's a good scene, it's a good scene, what is a guy to do?
Hey guys,
I arrive in Rio on 29th in the morning
I am looking for information on where I can find
1. Young slim hardbodied girls (white/latin) 18 to 19yrs old model type with great tits
2. A young slim beautiful black girl model type. Where would this type of girl go to work?
Prices?
I need a total knockout to celbrate my birthday the 30th.
I dont think you can get PMs.
I should be around for a few days for some group hunting.
Mr Enternational
10-31-07, 05:00
Tercar, how does the rio experience compare with the Dubai scene? Pros and cons? eg. cost, womens attitudes, access, etc. Thanks!
You guys haven't visited the Dubai thread?
There is no comparison, as I have said many times before, to Brazil in the west and Thailand in the east. Remember the pros in Dubai come from Africa (Ethiopia & Sudan), Eastern Europe (Ex Soviet states), and China for the sole purpose of being pros. Many of them are locked into a slavery deal for about 2 years. Somebody pays their way to Dubai and sponsors their visa and they have to surrender their passport to the "manager" when they arrive and usually continue to be in the hole from day 1 because they have to pay all the money back in daily or weekly increments. As for access, they can be found in clubs or bars. As for cost, US$300 is not an unusual asking price for one night or US$150 for 1 hour. As a matter of fact bargaining will start above that. Being the professional mongers and gamers that we are, we were able to make acquisitions for about US$40 for the night and continue the rest of our trip with a GFE from the same girls. That case is placed in a low percentile under the bell curve.
And the weather, Dubai is hot as hell, even at midnight. It is not a mongering haven or true vacation spot. When the girls see you in the club they automatically assume that you are in Dubai for business or are military. I would not recommend it. Here are my posts from last month.
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I thought you guys might enjoy some scenery pics of Leblon beach. Here's a nice pic of a topless sunbather. Not very normal but you can find them every once in a while!
For those of you interested, that's the Sheraton Rio in the background (and the not so nice falevas behind it)
Enjoy!
Judging by the skin colour and the bottle of water that is almost definitely a tourist. Brasilians are too obsessed with bikini marks to go topless.
I always get the late flight out. 9p is probably closer to boarding time. (Maybe 9:15-30.) You need to be at the airport at 8:30p at the latest. If you're flying coach, there will be a line. It's not just getting your boarding pass, you have to go through immigration too. Usually they only have 2 immigration officers on duty. More often than not, there is a long line.
And let's not forget traffic, on a non congested highway, its 45min from Copa to the airport. Give yourself plenty of time, lest you miss your flight.
The only downside I find with the late flight is the security situation. One time I got caught in some cross fire going to the airport. It's not an uncommon occurrence. Someone I know got robbed on the way back, pulled over her taxi ordered her and the driver out took her handbag, the taxi and her luggage and left them at the side of the road. But it all adds to the fun.
I tried to post a map of Centro some time ago with the knock shops marked. But it was too big to get past the forum rules. . . the new(ish) Time Out Rio de Janeiro guide, which is pocket sized and has some of the most useful maps I've seen. Very easy to read, and includes most of the smaller Centro streets you need to find.
Dcsplicer contacted me and pointed out Google maps now include central Rio. It might be a cool project to do a map with all the knockshops marked (though time consuming). But meanwhile, if you have one of the long lists posted on here, you can at least find the locations very easily, highlight the streets, and print the map out for your own use.
I'm planning to arrive in Rio next Sunday. Bubba Guide indicates that Centaurus is closed on Sundays. Can anyone please confirm?
I have another question regarding accomodation in Ipanema: Does anyone have an idea if the following hotels are girl-friendly?
-Ipanema Plaza
-Ipanema Tower
-Promenade Visconti
Comments appreciated!
Andre
American Warrior
10-31-07, 22:58
I'm planning to arrive in Rio next Sunday. Bubba Guide indicates that Centaurus is closed on Sundays. Can anyone please confirm?
I have another question regarding accomodation in Ipanema: Does anyone have an idea if the following hotels are girl-friendly?
-Ipanema Plaza
-Ipanema Tower
-Promenade Visconti
Comments appreciated!
AndreAndre,
If it is Inpanema Tower Apartments, I stay there and will be there in a couple of weeks. It is girl friendly and I never have to pay a charge and I have brought up to 3 girls with me at one time
I've tried to make some kind of map over casas de massagem in Centro.
It seems impossible to make a detailed map in the format JPG with the maximum size of 640x480. I've used the format PDF.
I only bothered to point out the casas I visited in March 2007, range R$ 10-85, see post:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=586368&postcount=3225
I'm sure some of the casas have closed or moved by now. I've propably put some of the red dots, on the map, in the wrong block. Anyway, you have the addresses so you should be able to check out the places by yourself.
Hello mongers,
My second time here. Went to Monte Carlo for my first night in. The bathrobes were kinda tired.
The place is as small as Luomo.
Not much selection/quality on Monday, 12-15 girls, still F:M about 3:1.
The best looking GDP gor snagged up while I was sipping on my drink :(
Anyway, took one of the othe rgood looking tall one, she said no anal. Fine. Broke my rule, which is not to always do anal, but just have the option.
She was fine, but I was jetlagged, and a couple of drinks, so I was done in 25 minutes. She tried a back ,assage for 10 minutes, but not so good.
So so experience at the Terma.
I must say that this knid of (quickie)joints are not my things anyway s may be I dont enjoy these as much as others. Plus I wasalone, which is never asa much fun.
Could not connect with any of the visiting mongers. Must be up to their balls in ....:D
Tercar, how does the rio experience compare with the Dubai scene? Pros and cons? eg. cost, womens attitudes, access, etc. Thanks!I agree - good question. Tercar doesn't post much, but I know he's one of the most experienced and knowledgeable guys in the Dubai scene, and he's given me some great advice and leads. I'll be in Rio next July for a week, and while I can guess what some of his opinions will be from a Dubai point of view, I look forward to his reply. He's probably landing home in Dubai any minute now, catching up on well-deserved sleep during the long flight 15 hour flight.
Nice report Tercar.
Dubai is at least 50-70 percent more expensive for the same quality of girls. I mean appearance only.
IMHO, The service in DXB is more hit or miss when compared to GIG. AND, there is about 50% of girls (which is not many) that I have interviewed in GIG will do anal.
However, dollar's decline is not effecting Dubai but it is really fucking up the cost here in GIG. So a $100 still buys you the same in DXB as it did 1 year ago.
So from somone who has modest experience in both places, GIG wins, IMHO.
Pipe Layer99
11-01-07, 00:23
I've tried to make some kind of map over casas de massagem in Centro....
You deserve a Sperto-Cola.
If you're there between 9-19 Nov, I'll buy you a beer or rum/coke. DD
I've tried to make some kind of map over casas de massagem in Centro.
It seems impossible to make a detailed map in the format JPG with the maximum size of 640x480. I've used the format PDF.
I only bothered to point out the casas I visited in March 2007, range R$ 10-85, see post:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=586368&postcount=3225
I'm sure some of the casas have closed or moved by now. I've propably put some of the red dots, on the map, in the wrong block. Anyway, you have the addresses so you should be able to check out the places by yourself.
Sperto,
I had just started to work on a similar project with Christopherd yesterday when I saw your post. Very COOL! (I, too, started with a screengrab from maps.google; and coincidentally I had also started to use red dots :D) But I had only put 2 dots down, one for 4x4, and one for 502. (Both are not marked on your map.)
Again, thanks for this great map. I will spend many fun hours with it on my next trip to Rio.
euro
Collectively we could make a google map for those centro joints. I have only been to 4x4 and 502; so I am not qualified to get this map done. But if anyone is interested, here is how to get started: http://www.google.com/intl/en_us/help/maps/tour/ (click on the "Create a map" link and watch the youTube vidoe clip on what to do). Pretty cool stuff.
I've tried to make some kind of map over casas de massagem in Centro.
It seems impossible to make a detailed map in the format JPG with the maximum size of 640x480. I've used the format PDF.
I only bothered to point out the casas I visited in March 2007, range R$ 10-85, see post:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=586368&postcount=3225
I'm sure some of the casas have closed or moved by now. I've propably put some of the red dots, on the map, in the wrong block. Anyway, you have the addresses so you should be able to check out the places by yourself.
Let me tell you something, that map is AWESOME!!!!!!!!! You can't get no better detail then that.....THANKS ALOT!!!!
Chris H
The Watcher
11-01-07, 05:14
I've tried to make some kind of map over casas de massagem in Centro.
Fantastic work! Thank you.
I will put this to good use in 3 weeks.
Thanks Piper, Attitude wise RIO and DUBAI are the same. Cost wise in Help they ask for 300 and 350 rials but settle down for 200 or 250. I mean the best pick ups. Balcony is much cheaper, if you are lucky enough you can get girls who are better looking then escort models. The only problem is language, in Dubai all speak good english where as in Rio if the girl in Balcony or Help speaks good english the will not settle for less. I do not know the rates during the carnival. I would never compare girls in Dubai with Rio as scoring Brazillians are a great experience. The are like porn stars.
Piper, I will update you before you go there. Thanks again to all for all your posts.
I agree - good question. Tercar doesn't post much, but I know he's one of the most experienced and knowledgeable guys in the Dubai scene, and he's given me some great advice and leads. I'll be in Rio next July for a week, and while I can guess what some of his opinions will be from a Dubai point of view, I look forward to his reply. He's probably landing home in Dubai any minute now, catching up on well-deserved sleep during the long flight 15 hour flight.
Nice report Tercar.
Exec Talent
11-01-07, 13:28
Time and time again! Thanks!
Rio Lover #2
11-01-07, 13:37
Thanks Sperto, you did it again, great job.
RL
I already done VM maps before, but I just love to play with Google satellite maps.
Here's another one, more detailed, in PDF format.
As I mentioned, I have been trying the normal girl route. So I thought I would put together a top ten list from my experiences to help fellow adventurers know when they are with a normal girl.
TOP TEN WAYS YOU KNOW YOU ARE WITH A NORMAL GIRL
10. She doesn’t get naked immediately upon entering the apartment
9. She thinks the vibrator you have in the bathroom really IS for facial massages
8. She pulls her top up rather than down when she catches you looking at her breasts
7. Kisses are more like a scene from Blue Lagoon than Debbie does Blue Balls
6. When you ask her if she would like something to drink, she doesn’t ask for a Red Bull and vodka
5. She doesn’t remember your name and use it repeatedly while she strokes your hair
4. Her concept of working is a job at the mall, not a night at Help
3. You never catch her humming, Mr. Lonely.
2. She doesn’t ask you – one hour, two hours or TLN
And the NUMBER ONE way you know you are with a Normal Girl ….
She has all her pubic hair!
I picked up a girl who works sometimes at Help (Daniella). She said she was normal girl. She is a university student studying 'international relations' ;). She wants to work in business.
Quoted 300 reals which I initially refused but her nice body and cute face and good English, I gave in at aorund 4 AM.
So lets see how shedid on ETs 'normal' girl checklist:
10. Yes. wouldn't shut up. kept talking. got on the internet. wasted a whole hour.
9. No. She knew what that was for and let me use it on her.
8. Yes. Turned out to be a little shy or insecure.
7. Yes. It was nice, once I got her warmed up. (Unbelievable. She even mentioned Brooke Shields and Blue Lagoon when we were watching TV after waking up:)
6. No. She did want a Red Bull, after I initially turned her down. She kinda felt insulted and was trying to test me.
5. Yes.
4. May be. She does go to help occasionally. Doesnt work anywhere else.
3. Yes.
2. Yes. No question of time.
1. No. Nicely shaven. very tasty.
I almost thought that she wanted to talk more rather than have sex. I almost had to pull her clothes off her. She was a bit shy/nervous but loosened up a bit later.
She had braces on so BBBJ was not worth risking a laceration:D
When I mentioned anal and action photos, she said I had been hanging out with the dirty girls!
In the afternoon, she wanted to keep talking again about everything possible for another 1-2 hours and didn't seem to wanna leave. Said she was hungry and there was nice place near her etc etc.
I had a litle bit of a headache and like an idiot just wanted her out of there. Didn't even get her phone number:(
Any way, normal girl or not? If she was caught in Help, can she be much of a normal girl?
(Pictures need re-sizing).
I picked up a girl who works sometimes at Help (Daniella). She said she was normal girl. She is a university student studying 'international relations' ;). She wants to work in business.
Quoted 300 relas... Any way, normal girl or not?
Sounds like a very normal regular girl. She propably just goes to Help to study anal relations and to practise business.
Charging R$ 300 for having sex doesn't make her a GP... ;)
It seems the competition in the P4P market is getting fierce in Brazil, there is a new place set to open in the coming weeks located in rua da quitanda (74) is going to be called sagitariun whiskeria it seems.
There is another new termas that I did not mention before (sorry guys) it is called Caligula Whisky Club and it is located in Rua Pereira de Almeida, 73 - Pça. da Bandeira.
Another one is Termas Amsterdam from the same owner of termas 21 located
in Praça da República, 75 in Centro.
I already done VM maps before, but I just love to play with Google satellite maps.
Here's another one, more detailed, in PDF format.
this is a work of art! great job!
euro (who has walked the blue line ...)
El Austriaco
11-01-07, 23:43
It seems the competition in the P4P market is getting fierce in Brazil, there is a new place set to open in the coming weeks located in rua da quitanda (74) is going to be called sagitariun whiskeria it seems.
There is another new termas that I did not mention before (sorry guys) it is called Caligula Whisky Club and it is located in Rua Pereira de Almeida, 73 - Pça. da Bandeira.
Another one is Termas Amsterdam from the same owner of termas 21 located
in Praça da República, 75 in Centro.
Since centro options seem to be the fashion of the day at ISG, here are a few more not (yet?) included on Sperto's outstanding map, except for Oceanic 116. All of them are in the general area between Presidente Vargas and Praca Mauá and therefore within easy walking distance of others in the area:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=458751&postcount=935
Also, for those that are interested, MV 30 is also smack in this area:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=458757&postcount=937
EA
El Austriaco
11-02-07, 00:58
I picked up a girl who works sometimes at Help (Daniella). She said she was normal girl.
I guess it's sort of hard NOT to feel normal if you see the 300 other GDPs at Help doing exactly the same thing you are doing.
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She is a university student studying 'international relations' Welcome to Help, the Rio de Janeiro College of International Relations and Applied Business. The only school where chances are you already make more money studying than the nightly tuition fee. Hard to beat that.
She wants to work in business.
That's why she is still an undergraduate, because she doesn't understand that she's in business already. Or maybe she just doesn't want to admit it? Shrewd business thinking: please the customer. You decide.
EA
I made another map of Casas de Massagem and Termas in Centro.
This time I put all the red dots in the "exact" location. I added addresses from El Austriaco and Christopherd that weren't on my list. I also added the Termas, >R$ 100.
Of course the map and the lists are far away from complete. You'll find many more places in Gpguia and when you do your own searching on the streets.
I made another map of Casas de Massagem and Termas in Centro.
This time I put all the red dots in the "exact" location. I added addresses from El Austriaco and Christopherd that weren't on my list. I also added the Termas, >R$ 100.
Of course the map and the lists are far away from complete. You'll find many more places in Gpguia and when you do your own searching on the streets.Very well done Sperto.
You have out done yourself.
Many thanks.
Andre,
If it is Inpanema Tower Apartments, I stay there and will be there in a couple of weeks. It is girl friendly and I never have to pay a charge and I have brought up to 3 girls with me at one time
Quedog,
Yes, that was Ipanema Tower Apartments I was talking about. Sounds very good to me! I'll try to book a room now. I've never seen it so I hope it's a convenient location. Thanks for the info!
Andre
I made another map of Casas de Massagem and Termas in Centro.
This time I put all the red dots in the "exact" location. I added addresses from El Austriaco and Christopherd that weren't on my list. I also added the Termas, >R$ 100.
Of course the map and the lists are far away from complete. You'll find many more places in Gpguia and when you do your own searching on the streets.
Thank you so much Sperto this is just want I needed I have been to some of these places before in Centro and I collected all the addresses and I was going to put a map together of the Budget Termas but you beat me to the punch thank you very much Sperto!!!
Sperto,
Good stuff that map. I wish I would have had it last time I was there, in September.
I made another map of Casas de Massagem and Termas in Centro.
This time I put all the red dots in the "exact" location. I added addresses from El Austriaco and Christopherd that weren't on my list. I also added the Termas, >R$ 100.
Of course the map and the lists are far away from complete. You'll find many more places in Gpguia and when you do your own searching on the streets.
Thanks,
Dutch
Last night went with a gal I know on a tour of Franks, Ciccolina and Sensoo.
All are located on Princess Isabel, close to Ave. Atlantica.
Franks - R$60 for both of us to enter 2 drinks each included. Two topless girls dancing, with poles, sort of like american strip bars. One out of maybe 10 of them was worth looking at. The bar is the smallest of the 3 from what I saw. There were plenty of girls, not too many guys. The girls are all take-out. Not many good looking ones. We had one drink and decided to go next door. I think there was a show later but we did not stay.
Ciccolina - R$55 for both of us to enter and 2 drinks each included. Again, two topless girls dancing, about the same quality as Franks. Same for the girls around. About 1am there was a show. Several strippers came on one at a time, stripped nude. Some were just nude for 5 seconds, others for a minute or two. A few of them did a good strip, one was a cowgirl type of outfit, did a great job, good tease too. After about 10 girls, two girls came on and did a lesbian show. One of them was the cowgirl. They did a show for about 10 minutes, totally nude, kissing, sucking, licking everywhere. They even cleared off a few of the tables and did the deed on them. It was a good show. After it was over, back to the topless dancers. We had our 2 drinks and left.
Sensoo - R$110 for both of us to enter and 2 drinks each. There is one girl dancing topless. This place is bigger and the girls were somewhat nicer looking. Plenty of them. Ran into a few buddies there too. It is also brighter than Franks or Ciccolina. I am not sure if they had a show earlier.
I have been to Barbarella before, the girls there are much better looking, but I belive it is more expensive.
I do not know what the takeout costs for the girls was.
If I were to go again, Sensoo for the girls, Ciccolina for the show.
Last night went with a gal I know on a tour of Franks, Ciccolina and Sensoo.
All are located on Princess Isabel, close to Ave. Atlantica.
Franks - R$60 for both of us to enter 2 drinks each included. Two topless girls dancing, with poles, sort of like american strip bars. One out of maybe 10 of them was worth looking at. The bar is the smallest of the 3 from what I saw. There were plenty of girls, not too many guys. The girls are all take-out. Not many good looking ones. We had one drink and decided to go next door. I think there was a show later but we did not stay.
Ciccolina - R$55 for both of us to enter and 2 drinks each included. Again, two topless girls dancing, about the same quality as Franks. Same for the girls around. About 1am there was a show. Several strippers came on one at a time, stripped nude. Some were just nude for 5 seconds, others for a minute or two. A few of them did a good strip, one was a cowgirl type of outfit, did a great job, good tease too. After about 10 girls, two girls came on and did a lesbian show. One of them was the cowgirl. They did a show for about 10 minutes, totally nude, kissing, sucking, licking everywhere. They even cleared off a few of the tables and did the deed on them. It was a good show. After it was over, back to the topless dancers. We had our 2 drinks and left.
Sensoo - R$110 for both of us to enter and 2 drinks each. There is one girl dancing topless. This place is bigger and the girls were somewhat nicer looking. Plenty of them. Ran into a few buddies there too. It is also brighter than Franks or Ciccolina. I am not sure if they had a show earlier.
I have been to Barbarella before, the girls there are much better looking, but I belive it is more expensive.
I do not know what the takeout costs for the girls was.
If I were to go again, Sensoo for the girls, Ciccolina for the show.
What night did you go to these places?
Houston Player
11-03-07, 02:47
Sperto,
That latest map is fucking awesome. Now if I could only get one for Sao Paulo.
Question to the mongers in Rio now, or who visited in the last week or 2. Since the exchange rate is ungodly, are the girls still asking their normal rates, or are they lowering prices to deal with the drop. I don't see how a working class guy can afford Rio now. I'm curious to see if the rate drops to 1. 20 how many gringos will be there. I remember, after hotel and airfare, bringing 1200 in cash and coming home with 200.00. And I was banging more girls than. ARGHHHH!
Sperto,
That latest map is fucking awesome. Now if I could only get one for Sao Paulo.The map is great! However when you print it out, the type is too small to read. Anyone have some suggestions on how to enlarge it?
Question to the mongers in Rio now, or who visited in the last week or 2. Since the exchange rate is ungodly, are the girls still asking their normal rates, or are they lowering prices to deal with the drop. I don't see how a working class guy can afford Rio now. I'm curious to see if the rate drops to 1. 20 how many gringos will be there. I remember, after hotel and airfare, bringing 1200 in cash and coming home with 200.00. And I was banging more girls than. ARGHHHH!
A gdp who cares about how gringos are dealing with falling exchange rates? Reports indicate that the prices are rising, if anything. Brazilian economics state that when demand falls, you raise prices to make up the difference. Fortunately, there are many cheap alternatives, as this board points out, to the major termas, escorts and Help.
Mr Enternational
11-03-07, 13:25
Question to the mongers in Rio now, or who visited in the last week or 2. Since the exchange rate is ungodly, are the girls still asking their normal rates, or are they lowering prices to deal with the drop.
One of the non-pros who I am seeing now owns a hair salon in Tijuca and said that one of her clients is a GDP. The GDP reportedly said that because of the drop in US currency next to the Real she no longer seeks out Americans and now prefers to do business with Italians.
Hey guys,
I am a little confused with the money issues here. I will go to Sao Paulo and Rio first time next week and I have no idea how much money I would need to bring. I thought of something like 1200 Euro's, hotels not included for 7 days. But now I read that the entrance to some clubs is 60 R$, which is something like 30 Euro! This would actually be more than you have to pay entrance for a club in Europe. Or did I use a wrong exchange rate?
A map over Copacabana with some important points marked. My intention was to add some casas de massagem and termas <R$ 100, but I didn't. I prefer to update this info in the beginning of next year.
This map propably gives no new info to the experienced Copa mongers. It's more directed to the Copa newbies.
My fingers got an allergic reaction when I marked the boates down at Prado Junior. I dislike them so much.
Exec Talent
11-03-07, 16:18
The girls are now more interested in learning Italian than English. For them, this is a business and their preferred customer has changed. All the more reason to go for the regular girls. I was with one last night. There is a learning curve, but once you get over that curve they still are Brazilian underneath! The price was right too.
The girls are now more interested in learning Italian than English. For them, this is a business and their preferred customer has changed. All the more reason to go for the regular girls. I was with one last night. There is a learning curve, but once you get over that curve they still are Brazilian underneath! The price was right too.Of course, the million dollar question is, "where are you finding (meeting) these "regular" girls?"
One of the non-pros who I am seeing now owns a hair salon in Tijuca and said that one of her clients is a GDP. The GDP reportedly said that because of the drop in US currency next to the Real she no longer seeks out Americans and now prefers to do business with Italians.Now this is just sad. I am beginning to feel like I live in a third world country. I guess I will learn Italian and exchange for euros before I travel. LOL
What night did you go to these places?
Thursday night, but since Friday was a holiday, more like a Friday night.
Sperto,
Thanks for the map: helpful & clever of you..
Of course, the million dollar question is, "where are you finding (meeting) these "regular" girls?"
Population: 190'010'650
Women/men: 1,017
18-50 years: about 50%
Gives 48'310'207 women between 18-50 years in Brazil.
Assuming that not all these women are GPs it shouldn't be so hard meeting a regular girl in Brazil.
Member #4643
11-03-07, 23:19
My suggestion if you are interested in regular girls is to learn Portuguese and stay out of Rio. I am currently shacked up with such a regular girl in Rio, and have had several over the last few years from here, but it is MUCH MUCH easier to hook up anywhere outside of Rio and Sao Paulo.
Take Manaus for example. There are said to be 1.8 girls for every man in Manaus. Those girls are hungry for a nice guy. Log onto Badoo and send a few girls from Manaus a message. After exchanging a few messages ask for the phone number and tell them you want to invite them to dinner when you get there. About half the girls will interact with me this way, even though I am nearly three times their age. The ones that end up going out with me (I actually always have more girls than I can handle) all ended up in bed with me. This does not require "game" , just a little perseverance. This would work for virtually all of those cities in Brazil that no one has ever heard of, many of which have incredible beaches.
Of course, should you not end up with a girl in bed with you on your first date, there is always Remulos! Half the girls you take out from Remulos will gladly become your "regular" girl! rsrsrsrsrs
Chi Town Hustler
11-04-07, 03:25
Does anyone know if thier is a Wi-Fi HOT SPOT in Copacabana around ground Ho Zero?
Exec Talent
11-04-07, 03:52
Sperto made it pretty obvious, but they are everywhere -- except places like Help, Balcony, MP, etc. In fact, I was put in my place by one girl for even suggesting we get a drink at Balcony.
But one thing I have learned that I think my be helpful is when I have asked about prior relationships (they were with Brazilian guys) often the age difference between them and their boyfriends was greater than I expected. Most of them I have met are about 25 and they were in 2-4 year relationships with guys 20-25 years older. Some had relationships at 17-18 with much older guys. So, they did not think it was strange that an older guy was asking them out.
Sperto made it pretty obvious, but they are everywhere -- except places like Help, Balcony, MP, etc. In fact, I was put in my place by one girl for even suggesting we get a drink at Balcony.
But one thing I have learned that I think my be helpful is when I have asked about prior relationships (they were with Brazilian guys) often the age difference between them and their boyfriends was greater than I expected. Most of them I have met are about 25 and they were in 2-4 year relationships with guys 20-25 years older. Some had relationships at 17-18 with much older guys. So, they did not think it was strange that an older guy was asking them out.
This is very common, yes. Brazilian girls have told me, almost universally, that they prefer older men. One girl told me that her first real boyfriend, at age 15, was with a man in his 50s.
Member #4643
11-04-07, 17:15
I am looking for a girl who is truly bisexual. I have a "regular girl" (= non GPD; there is really nothing else regular about her) who is bi, and she loves doing threesomes. The problem is that the girls in Help, for exampe, will all go home with you but don't really know how to do girl:girl sex. They don't seem to be too bad at oral, but thay have no idea how to do the rest of the deed with another woman.
On the other hand, my girl has some friends who are lesbians. This turns out to be less fun for me than I would have imagined.
A referral would be welcome. Please feel free to PM me.
Does anyone know what the deal is with the Whiskeria? I know that many Termas have Whiskerias associated with them and I have seen many Whiskerias where there are no Termas. My questions is that if I go to a Whiskeria will I finds GDP's? Or more to the point, is it possible to go to a Whiskeria and not find any GDP's? Is it possible that a Whiskeria is just a plain bar? I ask because I have see Whiskerias showing up more and more in posts on this and other mongering sites and have not seen a clear explanation of what the deal is.
Thanks,
Jake
I am looking for a girl who is truly bisexual. I have a "regular girl" (= non GPD; there is really nothing else regular about her) who is bi, and she loves doing threesomes. The problem is that the girls in Help, for exampe, will all go home with you but don't really know how to do girl:girl sex. They don't seem to be too bad at oral, but thay have no idea how to do the rest of the deed with another woman...
Actually many GP's are bisexual or lesbian (maybe because of their choosen profession).
I think you should bring your GF to Help or maybe even better a stripclub to see if there will be any good connection between your GF and the GP's.
Exec Talent
11-04-07, 22:42
I have been doing some more research on this issue and uncovered some interesting data. Many of the GDPs do say that one of the reasons they like the Italians is that they are finished in a very short time.
A map over Copacabana with some important points marked. My intention was to add some casas de massagem and termas <R$ 100, but I didn't. I prefer to update this info in the beginning of next year.
This map propably gives no new info to the experienced Copa mongers. It's more directed to the Copa newbies.
My fingers got an allergic reaction when I marked the boates down at Prado Junior. I dislike them so much.
Excellent job on the map Sperto. Although I've been to Rio on numerous occasions, I was not familiar with some of the gdp hang outs.
Lonzof
Rio Lover #2
11-05-07, 00:12
It's funny how the tables turn, I can remember just a couple of years ago the girls were complaining about the Italians, about how cheap they were.
This year they weren't complaining about how cheap they were, they were complaining about their hygiene.
Are they taking more baths now since the Euro fetches more Reais than the dollar?
I have heard from a lot of girls that they complain about the hygiene of the Italians.
But a lot of girls go with them, anyhow, because they overpay and they are the quickest.
RL
Rio Lover #2
11-05-07, 00:14
I have been doing some more research on this issue and uncovered some interesting data. Many of the GDPs do say that one of the reasons they like the Italians is that they are finished in a very short time.
I quote that, as I reported in my earlier post
RL
Rio Lover #2
11-05-07, 00:16
Thanks Sperto for another great map.
RL
Come on guys.
I am not italian but pinpointing people from a specific country as being dirty , smelly, fat , or whatever is just plain wrong.
I was speaking with a pro at balcony one day and she was telling me how much she loved italians , always very clean as she told me.
There are good people and bad people everywhere as there are clean and dirty people everywhere.
And there are stereotypes as I can read here.
I am looking for a girl who is truly bisexual. I have a "regular girl" (= non GPD; there is really nothing else regular about her) who is bi, and she loves doing threesomes. The problem is that the girls in Help, for exampe, will all go home with you but don't really know how to do girl:girl sex. They don't seem to be too bad at oral, but thay have no idea how to do the rest of the deed with another woman.
On the other hand, my girl has some friends who are lesbians. This turns out to be less fun for me than I would have imagined.
A referral would be welcome. Please feel free to PM me.
Solarium has a couples night at least once a week. To the best of my recollection it was Wednesday night, but that was a few years ago, so don't hold me to it. Couples can enter the boite without changing into a robe. You will surely find someone if you go on couples night. To be sure of the night, look for their ad in the "classificados" in O Globo, or just call them. I am sure other clubs may have a couples night as well.
I am looking for a girl who is truly bisexual. I have a "regular girl" (= non GPD; there is really nothing else regular about her) who is bi, and she loves doing threesomes. The problem is that the girls in Help, for exampe, will all go home with you but don't really know how to do girl:girl sex. They don't seem to be too bad at oral, but thay have no idea how to do the rest of the deed with another woman.
On the other hand, my girl has some friends who are lesbians. This turns out to be less fun for me than I would have imagined.
A referral would be welcome. Please feel free to PM me.
Go through the escort ads, like HotSide and Rio Sex. Some gdps advertise themselves as liking and doing couples.
http://www.hotside.com.br/hotside.htm
http://www.riosexsite.net/
For example, Daniele Carletti: "ADORO uma companhia feminina.
Casais que desejam realizar suas fantasias a três,
liguem-me e confiram.É prazer garantido!"
thought i'd write down a few of my thoughts about rio. i spent a week there and it was a family trip i. e. no true mongering but here are some tidbits i thought i'd share:
- firstly hotel vs. apartment. this time i stayed at the sheraton leblon. based on reports here and tripadvisor i was expecting the worst but i was pleasantly surprised. while not in the 'center' of the action it is easily accessible and imo the favela's in the background are not an eye-sore. oh and definately girl (and boy) friendly based on the couples i saw at the pool
- skip the cambio's and use the atm's from most (if not all brazil banks) which are on the third floor of the airport. however it seems like they shut down during the night?
- bus from the airport. $6r and it dropped me right in front the sheraton leblon. also goes along the beach in copa/ipanema. the shearton had a return airport shuttle. $10r. can't recall the website though
- most taxi drivers are a scam. i found it better to use the ones that are driving around than those waiting outside restaurants/clubs as those guys never have change and the meters don't work
- i prefer the bus or collectivo's. more mileage for $2r.
- bring your speedo's
- $40r entry to melt on a thurs. night and they only played american music. women speak english also. made me sick as i thought i was transported back to the us. oh and don't get me started on baronnetti. guys where can one go for normal people and some funk or samba?
- porcao. go hungry. a bit pricey but it's worth the treat
- where are the non-pro hunting grounds? went through centro/saara/lapa one afternoon and chatted with a few. they seemed open to courting with a gringo.. termas (solarium). my first time in a terma. previous time i was in rio i did help a couple times as i thought that was just heaven. solarium was fun however i would do once in a while. not every day.
ok. as you can tell i'm a cheap a$$. maybe i've been spoilt by colombia but hey it's the 3rd world. why are the prices soooo high? here's my thoughts comparing any colombian city to rio
- non-pro's. colombia. fish in a barrel
- pro's. rio. fish in a barrel
- price for pussy. colombia. my one trip to solarium would have gotten me three, 1 hour rounds in energy, lunch, and taxi
- partying. rio. only by hearsay though i'm still not sure why i could only hear hippie-hoppie. where's the samba, bossa-nova, favela funk and even a little salsa/reggaeton thrown in for fun?
- price for food/beers/clubs. colombia. again $40r entry fee? $40k pesos would get you and your girlfriend pretty toasty in colombia (then again i don't drink that much)
- safety. rio is safer i think. then again i didn't goto the favela's whereas i've been to santafe in bogota and did a brothel tour in cartagena. so i'm comparing ipanema to santafe.
would i go back. hell yeah. i mean it's rio. but only when i really want to treat myself. world cup 2014?
final thoughts. has anyone looked into the real-estate in barra. there's some nice condo's going up along the praia. wondering what the costs are?
tchau
editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Full Throttle
11-05-07, 17:19
From my observations, the whiskerias associated with the termas are for mongers who do not wish to participate in the robe scene, but everything else is about the same. For example, there is a fire pole in 4X4 that goes between the main boite and the whiskeria. More than once, I've worked my way over to a girl who literally went down the drain before I could get to her. It also seems that most places allow you to be in one or the other half of the establishment, but not both. From my questions to the front desk, the same cover charge applies to the whiskeria as it does to the terma half. Finally, if you are a horny guy, the garota girls will sniff you out in a hurricane. I can't say that volume will be the same, though, as the whiskeria scene might be a bit quieter.
Does anyone know what the deal is with the Whiskeria? I know that many Termas have Whiskerias associated with them and I have seen many Whiskerias where there are no Termas. My questions is that if I go to a Whiskeria will I finds GDP's? Or more to the point, is it possible to go to a Whiskeria and not find any GDP's? Is it possible that a Whiskeria is just a plain bar? I ask because I have see Whiskerias showing up more and more in posts on this and other mongering sites and have not seen a clear explanation of what the deal is.
Thanks,
Jake
Mr Enternational
11-06-07, 06:25
I am looking for a girl who is truly bisexual. I have a "regular girl" (= non GPD; there is really nothing else regular about her) who is bi, and she loves doing threesomes. The problem is that the girls in Help, for exampe, will all go home with you but don't really know how to do girl:girl sex. They don't seem to be too bad at oral, but thay have no idea how to do the rest of the deed with another woman.
On the other hand, my girl has some friends who are lesbians. This turns out to be less fun for me than I would have imagined.
Bingo! Less fun for you huh? That's because it's more of a novelty. It is one of those things that sounds good on paper like taking a shower together. But somebody is going to be left standing out of the hot water for a while.
Mr Enternational
11-06-07, 06:59
OK. As you can tell I'm a cheap a$$. Maybe I've been spoilt by Colombia but hey it's the 3rd world. Why are the prices soooo high? Here's my thoughts comparing any Colombian city to Rio
- non-pro's. Colombia. Fish in a barrel
- pro's. Rio. Fish in a barrel
- price for pussy. Colombia. My one trip to Solarium would have gotten me three, 1 hour rounds in Energy, lunch, and taxi
- partying. Rio. Only by hearsay though I'm still not sure why I could only hear hippie-hoppie. Where's the samba, bossa-nova, favela funk and even a little salsa/reggaeton thrown in for fun?
- price for food/beers/clubs. Colombia. Again $40R entry fee? $40K pesos would get you and your girlfriend pretty toasty in Colombia (then again I don't drink that much)
- safety. Rio is safer I think. Then again I didn't goto the favela's whereas I've been to SantaFe in Bogota and did a brothel tour in Cartagena. So I'm comparing Ipanema to SantaFe.
I don't know why the prices are so high. If I had to guess it would be because people are paying it. Like I tell people who talk about going to Panama, why the hell do you want to go there? You are only going to see a bunch of Dominicans and Colombians. Why? Because uninformed mongers in Panama are going to give them more than they would be earning doing the same thing at home. So why not just go to Colombia or DR and get the same girls for less?
I agree with the pro, non-pro, and price comparisons. For partying, I think Colombia is better. Maybe Rio has bigger and better places to party, but I like the Colombian attitude when it comes to partying. You can dance with my girl or I can dance with somebody's wife and it's no big deal. It's just dancing.
If you want favela funk, guess where you need to go? Speaks for itself. Try Castelo das Pedras (castelodaspedras.com).
As far as safety, I don't know how you even made an attempt to compare Santa Fe to Ipanema. Clearly Ipanema is the more upscale place. But I'm going to knock on wood because after countless trips to both, I have never had any problems or felt in danger in either Brazil or Colombia.
Excellent post Gimmedub!
Mr Enternational
11-06-07, 08:31
Landed. Called up the new girl from the website who owns her own salon in Tijuca, has car, house, the works. I told her that I was about to get on the bus and I would call her when I reached Copa. Took the Real onibus to Rua Santa Clara in Copacabana. Went directly to the internet cafe to check email. I saw a chick online that I had met on a website.
(Background info: I could not remember her name or where she lived. All I remembered was an argument we had. She wanted to come to the US and I told her that she needed to learn English first. She insisted that it was better for her to learn when she arrived. We were at a stalemate, so with her bad attitude she told me that in that case I would never get to meet her. I agreed.)
As soon as I saw her online I typed to her in Portuguese, "I am in Rio. Come here." I ended with my phone number and immediately logged off.
I called the hairstylist, who had taken the day off because I was coming, and she told me that she would arrive in 30 minutes. I went to the apartment, took a dump and a shower and was watching TV and she had yet to arrive. You know that I am a stickler for time because I could have been downtown in a casa somewhere for short time. But she notified me that parking was a b*%&h and she was looking for a spot. I opted to run to the corner lanchonete and pick up a grilled chicken sandwich with pineapple and a large acai. When I made it back there was still no sign of her. Then with two bites of my sandwich left she rang the doorbell. Damn girl where have you been? She said she had to park at the end of the street.
We cuddled up on the bed and watched the news. She reached her hand into my swim trunks and started playing with Russell. I told her that she could take my shorts off if she wanted. She was happy to do it. She could not resist putting my dick into her mouth. I couldn't take it anymore. I told her that she would have to come out of the clothes. She made me take them off because I had made her take mine off. It was fucking great. Especially when we went to anal mish. "Devagar!" she said as she vigorously rubbed on her clit. I was like fuck it. I had to break out the pocket rocket. She flipped over for doggy anal and I let her take charge of the pocket rocket.
When it was over she fell sound asleep. So I won. I knocked her ass out. But of course I was happy to pass out next. We awoke to the vibrating of my cell which was on the night stand. I could not let it go unanswered. So I picked it up and it was the girl that I had mentioned before. She said that she had sent me more messages after I logged off and that she was looking for a ticket to Rio. Whenever she spoke I replied in English, knowing she could not understand shit. "Yes, okay, uhn hunh. We will talk later." I hung up and the one I was with asked who it was. All I could think to tell her was that it was Prime 7, who was supposed to call me that day. She said damn, he sounds like a woman. Busted?
She got up and called some guy to come over because she needed to give him a check to be a fiador. Since he was in Copacabana it shouldn't have taken him long to arrive. But she insisted on having a second portion of my dick in her mouth. She asked me if I wanted to cum on her face, but I told her no just keep sucking. Then somehow we started fucking on a barstool. After she came a couple of times she said that she needed to go downstairs to give the guy the check. I told her, "yeah, but you said I could cum on your face remember?" She told me to just hold it until she got back because she wanted to fuck some more anyway. So she left out with the check and her cell phone leaving her purse and keys behind.
I decided to drift off to sleep but kept my cell in hand in case the other girl called. What do you know? I wake up to one girl vibrating the phone and the other on the door buzzer. The smartest move was to answer the phone first and worry about the door later. When I picked up the phone the girl on the other end was very excited. She said that she had found a ticket for R319. I rushed her off the phone telling her in my sleep voice, "Okay. I am sleep right now. I will call you when I wake up." I hung up, hid my cell in my backpack and double-timed it too the door.
From my observations, the whiskerias associated with the termas are for mongers who do not wish to participate in the robe scene, but everything else is about the same. For example, there is a fire pole in 4X4 that goes between the main boite and the whiskeria. More than once, I've worked my way over to a girl who literally went down the drain before I could get to her. It also seems that most places allow you to be in one or the other half of the establishment, but not both. From my questions to the front desk, the same cover charge applies to the whiskeria as it does to the terma half. Finally, if you are a horny guy, the garota girls will sniff you out in a hurricane. I can't say that volume will be the same, though, as the whiskeria scene might be a bit quieter.
You will only see a fraction of the girls in the Wiskeria that you would see in the main bar. Most of the time, when you see a girl drop down the firepole, she's taking the quickest route to the bathroom and will be back in 5 minutes. They don't, overall, really like the Whiskeria. Listen to when the receptionists orders, "Dez meninas pra Whiskeria," and watch how many girls drop down the pole.
I don't know why the prices are so high. If I had to guess it would be because people are paying it. Like I tell people who talk about going to Panama, why the hell do you want to go there? You are only going to see a bunch of Dominicans and Colombians. Why? Because uninformed mongers in Panama are going to give them more than they would be earning doing the same thing at home. So why not just go to Colombia or DR and get the same girls for less?
I agree with the pro, non-pro, and price comparisons. For partying, I think Colombia is better. Maybe Rio has bigger and better places to party, but I like the Colombian attitude when it comes to partying. You can dance with my girl or I can dance with somebody's wife and it's no big deal. It's just dancing.
If you want favela funk, guess where you need to go? Speaks for itself. Try Castelo das Pedras (castelodaspedras.com).
As far as safety, I don't know how you even made an attempt to compare Santa Fe to Ipanema. Clearly Ipanema is the more upscale place. But I'm going to knock on wood because after countless trips to both, I have never had any problems or felt in danger in either Brazil or Colombia.
Excellent post Gimmedub!
I was in the DR several times,In colombia,in panama and in brasil....I agree totaly with your post.
In Panama it is fun if you speak spanish and go out hunting for NON-pros...becoz if you wanna fuck pros...indeed you only encounter Colombians or DR girls...which are way too pricey anyways.
Colombia I realy think has the best value for money ratio....way better then Brasil or Panama. Them Colombianas also look better IMHO.
the DR is so-so....and especialy the capital CAN be quite hefty on prices for hotels;-( which sucks big time. Santo Domingo also can be unsafe if you are in the wrong spot at the wrong time:-(
Inside the cities in Colombia I also NEVER felt unsave.....even at night.
At this moment i would think there is MORE violence going on in the south region of Brazil then there is in WHOLE of Colombia!!!
Right now JUST for ST mongering I would suggest Colombia over the DR,Panama or Brasil ANY day!!!! Not to mention the lousy rates you get for your USD against the Br. real....!!! (1.73 now...fuckkkk)
cheers
Johan
Well, the weather is really shitty in Rio. It makes me sick, I really need the sun. This kinda weather takes all my good moods away. I guess it's the same for the therma girls. I went to Centaurus yesterday night at around 11. There were around 50 girls and only 4 guys including me. I guess I was there a bit late but Monday night was kinda slow anyways, especially this Monday which was right after the holidays. Most of the girls looked bored and sleepy. I got sleepy myself. Being the center of attention was not as fun as I thought. The girls were not pushy in any way. I never ever had a serious problem in Centaurus.
I got a decent girl - I don't remember the name. Some better looking girls remembered my face and approached but it was too late!. BBBJ and sex was very good. I did not last long since I had an exhausting day. She gave me a nice massage afterwards. Good performance but I did not fall in love with her. Some of the guys here already know from my reports that although I'm very picky, I've fallen in love with Centaurus girls a couple of times. Not this time though. I'll try to go there earlier to be able to scout around better next time. Maybe tonight.
Andre
El Austriaco
11-06-07, 22:13
- Non-pro's. Colombia. Fish in a barrel
- Pro's. Rio. Fish in a barrel
Fully agree. Colombia is not as point-and-click and doesn't have the variety of P4P options as Rio does. But then again, which place does... except for Thailand?
- price for pussy. Colombia. My one trip to Solarium would have gotten me three, 1 hour rounds in Energy, lunch, and taxi
Sure, but Solarium is quite high-end among Rio's P4P options, just like going to Lusitania's would be in Barranquilla, for example (to eavesdrop a place I know) Also, in terms of pricing, girls in LDV in Cartagena are not far behind Help GDPs in Rio,. Check out some of the inexpensive options reported on here recently (hint: Sperto's map and numerous reports of VM), and tell me... is there anything like that available anywhere in Colombia? IMHO, Rio is a cheap Charlie paradise, too... you just need to get off the beaten track a bit, and opportunities will abound.
- partying. Rio. Only by hearsay though I'm still not sure why I could only hear hippie-hoppie. Where's the samba, bossa-nova, favela funk and even a little salsa/reggaeton thrown in for fun?
Samba? Head to Lapa. Bossa Nova? Check out Vinicius in Ipanema. Baile funk? Go to any of the cheap Centro fastfoda places, you will hear more baile funk than you can stand, probable. Otherwise, ask any girl you get to know, they know where they are happening (not that it's necessarily a good idea to go there, or go with them, but that's another story).
- price for food/beers/clubs. Colombia. Again $40R entry fee? $40K pesos would get you and your girlfriend pretty toasty in Colombia (then again I don't drink that much)
There are tons of club options that don't have an entrance fee, and tons of options for cheap food in Rio. Again, in all likelihood, they are not necessarily located in the touristy areas. Last year when I was in Rio (with 1 USD = 2 Reais, more or less), I had no problem finding a perfectly decent meal for 8 to 10 Reais. Beer? Choppe was R$ 2.50 at the bar around the corner from my hotel, a big bottle (0.6) was R$ 4.00 at the bar just across from 2A2 on Figueiredo Magalhaes in the Bairro Peixoto area of Copacabana. When I was living in the interior of the State of Rio, a big bottle of Skol, Brahma, or Antartica was actuall R$ 2.20...
- safety. Rio is safer I think. Then again I didn't goto the favela's whereas I've been to SantaFe in Bogota and did a brothel tour in Cartagena. So I'm comparing Ipanema to SantaFe.)
Personally, I think that by now, Colombian cities are quite safe... it's the countryside that's the problem. In Brazil, and in Rio specifically, the problem is in the cities. Either way, both countries are certainly not for the inexperienced traveler. BTW, you were well advised not to go into the favelas by yourself without a local who knows what he is doing. At the same time, I wouldn't recommend that anywhere in Colombia, either.
EA
Hojeobrigado
11-08-07, 03:29
all,
after taking a few days to reflect, and of course recovering from the head cold i seem to get every time i visit brasil, here is my report of my self-presented 50th birthday trip to brasil!
1.day 1: arrived on the atlanta- rio flight at 7:30 am, took a yellow cab to the princess copacabana hotel. they needed some time to clean the room, so i dropped my bags and headed to the beach for a choppe! as i enjoyed my beer, i reflected on 2 things, any direct flight to rio, without the layover is sp is a great benefit as you can spend those 2 hours relaxing rather than sitting in an airport. also, this time i flew in business class......... much better, more room, good sleep, relaxed rested and ready to go! after a couple of choppe, i walked over to blame it on rio to rent a cell phone. always needed if you plan to keep track of the gdp network and touch base with the good ones for repeat performances. one of the nice things about renting the phone from bobby is that he never bothers to erase the last users saved numbers, it can be real handy to have a ready built list. cell phone in hand i walked back to the hotel, it was now noon and they were ready to check me in. here came problem #1!, i had booked the room through expedia, and in fact pre-paid the total. of course the princess copacabana had no record of it and in fact was not sure they could keep me for the 3 nights i planned to stay. well i checked in for the night, called expedia, spent 3 hours on the phone, then left them to work it out. after all it was 5:00pm and the little guy was starting to do all of the thinking. it is my tradition while in rio to go the first opportunity to solarium, it was my first terma, is still my favorite, i just kind of like the familiarity and of course the bunda!!! still operating on 2 year old 3.75- 1 reais i caught a cab and endured the traffic to the terma. upon arrival i checked in, got my number and headed to the showers. i needed one after the flight, the humidity and the blood pressure increase from the hotel snafus, so i enjoyed a nice long one!! walking upstairs to the boite, i was a bit surpri9sed to see only about 6 guys to 20 plus garotas. the gal at the front had said it would be 6:00 or 6:30 before all of the talent was at work, so i settled in at the bar for a choppe or 4. while sitting i noticed one of the best looking women i have ever seen anywhere sitting at the end of the bar by herself. i pondered just skipping the waiting, but just then another gdp walked up to her kissed her on the lips and sat on her lap. hmmmmmm wondered i, what have we here??? over the next 30 minuted the guy sitting next to me and i had the pleasure of watching the best girl on girl make out session i have ever seen. my port is only ok at the best of times and after 2 years it was definitely not good here, so i just kind of shrugged at him and he replied in perfect english, they are very good friends!!! turns out he was just returned to brasil after working in new york for 5 years, so we settled into a nice discussion. he had already sessioned with the beauty, thought she was pretty good, but fairly mechanical, so i just enjoyed the show. after about an hour i noticed that the vitamin v i had swallowed with my first choppe was fully active, so i mentioned to my newly made friend----- whom would you choose????? he motioned over to the corner where a very short, long dark haired gal was sitting, just looking hot and lonely. i walked over, smiled at her and asked her name. tati she said and motioned to sit down. i did, told her my name and was rewarded with her tongue stuffed a long distance down my throat. now to me it really is not fair for them to do this after having not been in brasil for 2 years, so i forced little head to silence, and proceeded to try and interview her as best i could what with my attention divided as it was. the interview went well, she was completa, claimed to 23 (seemed to be the favorite age claim this trip) and was intent on kissing me to death at any moment i was not talking and was possessive in the way only rio gdps can be. i offered her a drink, but it seems solarium has maintained the no alcohol for employees policy so she had only a fruit juice. well, things were at the point, so i mentioned we should retire to the cabine. off she went, number in hand, saying wait right here. i did, she returned about 10 minutes later (this was new to me, she wore her fuck uniform right into the boite to gather me up), and off we went. i had only taken the 40 minute option, this seemed to worry her, so we were no more than closing the door, when she pulled my robe off, threw herself on the bed and said- eat me. this too was new to me, but being the nice fellow i am i dove right in. wow, she was all over the bed, screaming, squirming and twitching. i have never tried to fool myself these gals are pros, are very talented, and know how too make money, but i swear she was totally in too it, she was so wet in about 5 minutes, i was simply amazed. i had not even had a chance to play with her nice titties, when she threw me over on my back and had my cock in her mouth sucking like she needed a drink! i tried to turn her around for 69, but she was was too intent on my little friend. tati obviously had practice, i thought the sesssion was going to end soon if i didn't do~something, so i rolled over on my side and just smiled at her. she just smiled at me in an evil sort of way, pushed me back onto my back and tried to mount me nao camisinha (another theme of this trip). i pushed her her back, pointed at my dick and said sem camisinha. she just smiled grabbed her little purse and grabbed one! she blew it on me in seconds and was cowboying my brains out in about 5 seconds flat. after a few minutes of this she laid back on her back and spread her legs. i needed no further notice, so i mounted her missionary and went to work. she was tight, wet and hot under me, made me feel very good about my decision to return to the land of bunda. well, after the long flight, the anticipation, and all, 15 minutes was it for me, i got off and filled the condom full! laying back snuggling a bit i thought ohhhh, well we can finish this another night....... much to my surprise after about 3-4 minutes of rest she was between my legs, sucking me back to life....... a guy just has to love that vitamin v (btw- i got mine before the trip from www.usolinerx.net.). once she had accomplished her mission, she reached back into her purse for another condom and that stuff they use to deaden their asses and rolled on to her knees for me to access her ass. for sure no further invitation was needed, so i gently and slowly tried to enter her tight ass. she was willing for me to go slow for about 2 minutes when she started to buck her ass into me at a frenzied pace!! i am pretty well convinced she actually prefered it in her ass as the ai´´s were coming out of her mouth as fast as she could talk. much to my pleasure i continued to pound her ass until the knock on the door came, she just kept ramming away on me, i am not too sure she even heard it (although everyone else on the floor had to have heard her) until i fell away spent from the effort. after lying there for a minute or two she jumped up, threw her clothes on and said thanks, bye. i was left to pull the condom off, dress myself and wander down to take a shower.. after a shower and a sauna i wandered back upstairs, just to have a choppe before i left, she slid up to me, slipped a note in my robe with her cell number and wandered off to find another victim. i checked out, total bill r$263, and caught a cab back to the hotel. now i had planned to wander over to helpee later, but tati had totally done me, so i ended up just drifting off to sleep.
thus ended day 1! day 2 next.
editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
This report is especially written for Centaurus fans, not the usual haters of the place. I considered myself a fan too, once. The first time I visited Centaurus 3 years ago, I thought it was fantastic, and probably it was. Last time I visited the place, one year ago, I still thought it was OK. I knew the best girls worked there. Now I can see the same old-new-girls are still working there. I know one girl who's been working there for 3 years now. Now that does not sound fresh at all.
There's a huge downfall in the quality of the girls. There used to be at least 3-4 8's (Adriana Lima is a 10 on my scale) on a busy night. Well to be honest one of my 8's still work there. But she is not an 8 anymore. She got so weird as she got older. The new girls are mostly freaking ugly mulatas. I have no idea where they come from and why they are there. If tonight was my first time in Centaurus, I don't think I'd go there again. Even the clients looked different..
Now maybe it's me becoming a pimp or maybe it's a seasonal thing, I don't know. But I stopped by 3 nights in a row and never really got excited. I had some good sex, funny conversations and good music. But now the girl quality is definitely LOW for my standards.
Andre
The Watcher
11-08-07, 23:17
The new girls are mostly freaking ugly mulatas.
Andre
Did you mean "morena"? I have been frequenting Centaurus for many years and I can count on two fingers the number of times I have seen more than one mulata there. Centaurus has always been known for its loiras so I find it quite interesting that the new girls they are hiring are mulatas.
Does anyone know if thier is a Wi-Fi HOT SPOT in Copacabana around ground Ho Zero?The Office Sports Bar at 92 A Aires Saldanha has wi-fi from what I remember. In fact, The Office has everything, good food, good music, strong drinks, NFL football, a few hot braziladas and within walking distance of Help. All they need is a laundermat and I could live there!
My fingers got an allergic reaction when I marked the boates down at Prado Junior. I dislike them so much.
I must admit I was wondering what you meant till I saw your map. I also hate those you've marked with a passion. On the other hand, I am sort of a fan of the even more disreputable (unmarked) late night joints like the bar opposite Barbie's and its Prado companion just around the corner. These are great places and I thoroughly and emphatically recommend anyone to stay away (I always feel a bit crowded when I see another monger there). In case anyone doesn't believe me, I should add they are good places to get conned, robbed and so on. But there are no rules. You can also get very lucky ;-) And if you think you've seen the worst women Copa has to offer in there, try one of the junkie blondes that perch on the bonnets of passing cars - they will maybe try for your wallet even before you get back to your hotel with them. The police are friendly but won't protect you (they might offer to sell you viagra). Stay in with the bar staff and build long-term friendships with one or two level-headed types that hang out there.
I can think of worse places to die <vbg>
Hojeobrigado,
great report - I was feeling like I was there with you! Keep 'em coming! And let me know (PM) when you are done with what looks like it is going to be a series of reports. I'll put them into the ROD thread.
euro
Does anyone know if thier is a Wi-Fi HOT SPOT in Copacabana around ground Ho Zero?Not really sure it's a good idea.
Copacabana is now a little bit safer than 2 years ago, but I won't take the chance, walking in around Posto 5 with my notebook, even in a backpack.
U.
Marius Brazil
11-09-07, 18:02
Dear friends and customers,
Looking the websites where our guests come from, we saw in the forum International Sex Guide some references about Marius Degustare Brazil.
As soon as we were informed of what had occurred, involving two of the team's members, we have taken immediate action, so that such a reproachful situation will not repeat itself. The ones involved have been dismissed and arrested.
We thank you for recognizing our values which have been reflected in the 35 years of our history in first-class gastronomy.
You are always welcome!
Best regards,
Marius
Dear friends and customers,
Looking the websites where our guests come from, we saw in the forum International Sex Guide some references about Marius Degustare Brazil.
As soon as we were informed of what had occurred, involving two of the team's members, we have taken immediate action, so that such a reproachful situation will not repeat itself. The ones involved have been dismissed and arrested.
We thank you for recognizing our values which have been reflected in the 35 years of our history in first-class gastronomy.
You are always welcome!
Best regards,
MariusThank you for takiing the time and personal attention to communicate with us. Many of us live here in Rio and frequent your restaraunts. I personally have never had a problem and have been going there for a long time.
What is Marius Degustare Brazil? And what is the guy talking about firing his team members for doing something wrong? What happened at this place?
Chris H
What is Marius Degustare Brazil? And what is the guy talking about firing his team members for doing something wrong? What happened at this place?
Chris HMarius is the premire restaraunt along Ave Atlantica. They have two adjoining restaraunts: Marius Carne e Marius Pexie. They are pricey, trendy and touristy. I looked back on the forum entries (do a search on the thread) and you will see there was a problem with an employee and CC fraud. Problem seems to be fixed.
I have no affiliation with the restraunts or the owner.
I eat at Marius, Leme, each time I am in Rio, and I always have been very satisfied with the quality of the experience. It is a nice touch that they bother to let the members of this forum know that they value our business.
Trippleecks
11-10-07, 12:13
Marius Restaurant, Leme, If you are willing to spend nearly 300.reais for a dinner for 2, then by all means drop in. IMHO the service is mediocre, as is the food. There are other restaurants in Copacabana and in Ipanema, far less expensive, with better service and better food…
Did you mean "morena"? I have been frequenting Centaurus for many years and I can count on two fingers the number of times I have seen more than one mulata there. Centaurus has always been known for its loiras so I find it quite interesting that the new girls they are hiring are mulatas.
Yeah Mulatas! I actually love Morenas! Mulatas are the really dark skinned girls right? 4 times in 4 days and no new girls I really liked. Many dark skinned girls, huge bundas: not my cup of tea!
My fave loira (has been working there for 2 years) in the house agreed with me about the quality downfall. Made an explanation in Portuguese which I did not understand. Do you think the bombs went to Barbarella? There was a weird vibe going on about the place.
A.A
Yeah Mulatas! I actually love Morenas! Mulatas are the really dark skinned girls right? 4 times in 4 days and no new girls I really liked. Many dark skinned girls, huge bundas: not my cup of tea!
My fave loira (has been working there for 2 years) in the house agreed with me about the quality downfall. Made an explanation in Portuguese which I did not understand. Do you think the bombs went to Barbarella? There was a weird vibe going on about the place.
A.A
Sorry to hear you don't like big bundas. I travel all the way the South America for the small waists and fat azzes. I can find skinny azzes in the usa by walking out my front door.
Lonzof
Sorry to hear you don't like big bundas. I travel all the way the South America for the small waists and fat azzes. I can find skinny azzes in the usa by walking out my front door.
LonzofLove fat asses too man and brazilain women do have the fat ass
Late
Sorry to hear you don't like big bundas. I travel all the way the South America for the small waists and fat azzes. I can find skinny azzes in the usa by walking out my front door.
Lonzof
I know. I have nothing against curves but I just don't prefer huge bundas. And when I say 'a girl with a huge bunda', I mean a girl who seems as she has difficulty carrying it :)
Marius Restaurant, Leme, If you are willing to spend nearly 300.reais for a dinner for 2, then by all means drop in. IMHO the service is mediocre, as is the food. There are other restaurants in Copacabana and in Ipanema, far less expensive, with better service and better food…
I agree, although Marius is still an experience, especially for the relative newcomer. It is one of the better (ie upmarket) versions of the very Brasilian unlimited food experience, with a quality buffet and waiters trying to tempt you to eat even more of the freshly skewered meats.
The fish version IMO is poorer, partly because fish needs to be cooked more exactly.
If you just want cheap food, there is no reason to pay Marius prices. Similarly, if you want high cuisine, Marius does not fit the bill as it is a wide variety of basic food cooked in a basic manner (though quite well).
For something more sophisticated in the same area(though not cheap), I would give a qualified recommendation to the restaurant on the top floor of the Meridien. Not the bog-standard one that serves large quantities of guests and visitors with lunch (and that's not at all bad) but the 'French cusine' job that dusts the skyline. Here you will get the sort of sophisticated fare you would expect in any top flight restaurant and in sophisticated surroundings.
My one reservation is that although the menu is French, the chef is Spanish. If I'm being picky, I have to point out that some of the complex French dishes they are serving would benefit from the years of experience that a French chef earns. More the sort of place to take your wife than a GDP though.
Pipe Layer99
11-11-07, 19:11
Good day today.
Had some good food and then I banged a tight little mulatta (Elizabete - pics were posted in Sep). She was my warm up. Why a warm up - I had a date with a civilian (non gdp) lined up for 9pm. So I needed to get it on first so I won´t be so horny when we go out.
I met the civilian a few months ago. Spent about 2 hours having conversation and drinks - she only drinks juice and soda :-((
Around 1230 she was tired and wanted to go home. I guess its gonna take longer. Since she was not ready to hit the sheets, we parted and I went to Help. The place was jam packed. Never seen it like that before. Anyway, after talking and dancing with a few, I saw Fabi - a tall Asian looking babe. She is about 5´ 11´´ with heels on.
I met her in Sep - at that time she wanted 400 and only came down to 300, so I passed. This time, we talked briefly and I told her I am taking her home with me tonight. Danced with her and let her know it was on. She wanted 300, I countered with 200 and she agreed.
After two rounds we slept. She stayed til 1pm. I may repeat with her because the snatch is good and her body is tight. But - yes there is always a but - her bj is lacking. Overall, good attitude.
Off to Solarium in about 30 minutes for some more terma action. I was there 2 days ago and had a smokin blonde babe who blew my socks off. She sucked me really good. She went for the condom, but I wanted more, so she went at it some more til I was ready to mount. Outf*ckingstanding experience! I am gonna hit that again Monday. She is off today, so I will bang 2 others I saw.
2 more days til my wing man Cho arrives. Don´t worry, I will keep the girls occupied til you get here. And no I did not bang Fabi in your bed ;-))
Le Meridian Hotel over by Av Princessa Isable and Av N.S. Copacabanna is now an Iberostar Hotel.
Per their website:
Restaurants & Bars
L´Étoile - International restaurant with a contemporary cuisine de fusion located on the 37th floor with a spectacular panoramic view of Copacabana Beach.
Bella Vista - Mediterranean Brazilian cuisine, integrated to our pool, located on the 4th floor.
Bar La Ronda - Lobby bar with great options of drinks and fine appetizers. It offers a "happy hour" with live music from Monday thru Saturday, at 7 pm.
http://www.iberostar.com/EN/Rio-de-Janeiro--hotels/Iberostar-Copacabana_3_129.html#
Le Meridian Hotel over by Av Princessa Isable and Av N.S. Copacabanna is now an Iberostar Hotel.
LOL I expect the tourist office maps will get the new name by about 2009 then <g>. Probably not worth revising the Bubba guide for but good to know.
L´Étoile - International restaurant with a contemporary cuisine de fusion located on the 37th floor with a spectacular panoramic view of Copacabana Beach.
Yes, this one. It is pretty cool. You won't bother about the view - partly cos the interior is so captivating and secondly cos it doesn't open until it's usually dark. <g>
Bella Vista - Mediterranean Brazilian cuisine, integrated to our pool, located on the 4th floor.
Which *does* have quite a nice view.
Bar La Ronda - Lobby bar with great options of drinks and fine appetizers. It offers a "happy hour" with live music from Monday thru Saturday, at 7 pm.
And which plays possibly the worst music you can find in Copa.
Sorry to hear you don't like big bundas. I travel all the way the South America for the small waists and fat azzes. I can find skinny azzes in the usa by walking out my front door.
Lonzof
Unfortunately, there is often a thick waist that comes along with that skinny, flat ass.
Le Meridian Hotel over by Av Princessa Isable and Av N.S. Copacabanna is now an Iberostar Hotel.
Per their website:
Restaurants & Bars
L´Étoile - International restaurant with a contemporary cuisine de fusion located on the 37th floor with a spectacular panoramic view of Copacabana Beach.
Bella Vista - Mediterranean Brazilian cuisine, integrated to our pool, located on the 4th floor.
Bar La Ronda - Lobby bar with great options of drinks and fine appetizers. It offers a "happy hour" with live music from Monday thru Saturday, at 7 pm.
http://www.iberostar.com/EN/Rio-de-Janeiro--hotels/Iberostar-Copacabana_3_129.html#
They are also closed. Lights out. Does not look like they are remodeling. Has been that way for over a month.
Good day today.
Had some good food and then I banged a tight little mulatta (Elizabete - pics were posted in Sep). She was my warm up. Why a warm up - I had a date with a civilian (non gdp) lined up for 9pm. So I needed to get it on first so I won´t be so horny when we go out.
I met the civilian a few months ago. Spent about 2 hours having conversation and drinks - she only drinks juice and soda :-((
Around 1230 she was tired and wanted to go home. I guess its gonna take longer. Since she was not ready to hit the sheets, we parted and I went to Help. The place was jam packed. Never seen it like that before. Anyway, after talking and dancing with a few, I saw Fabi - a tall Asian looking babe. She is about 5´ 11´´ with heels on.
I met her in Sep - at that time she wanted 400 and only came down to 300, so I passed. This time, we talked briefly and I told her I am taking her home with me tonight. Danced with her and let her know it was on. She wanted 300, I countered with 200 and she agreed.
After two rounds we slept. She stayed til 1pm. I may repeat with her because the snatch is good and her body is tight. But - yes there is always a but - her bj is lacking. Overall, good attitude.
Off to Solarium in about 30 minutes for some more terma action. I was there 2 days ago and had a smokin blonde babe who blew my socks off. She sucked me really good. She went for the condom, but I wanted more, so she went at it some more til I was ready to mount. Outf*ckingstanding experience! I am gonna hit that again Monday. She is off today, so I will bang 2 others I saw.
2 more days til my wing man Cho arrives. Don´t worry, I will keep the girls occupied til you get here. And no I did not bang Fabi in your bed ;-))
Ahhh! Clean sheets, fresh buceta, and big bundas! Pardise awaits! :)
Hojeobrigado
11-11-07, 21:53
day one left me wiped out and tired after the session at solarium, so i decided to retire for the evening and just get some sleep to recover from the flight and tati. i had stopped in at the duty free near the baggage claim to pick-up a box of romeo y' juliettas fresh from habana to enjoy while in country. as i set on the little balcony in my room at the princess copacabana, puffing away contentedly, i wrestled with how to spend day 2. the counter ladies at solarium had mentioned that tomorrow was a holiday and they and pretty much all of the termas in rio would be enjoying a 3 day weekend closed. this didn't worry me too much, i seem to have a knack for running into previously unknown holidays in brasil and tend to find out that the mongering just moves to more or less free lance areas like shenanigans or other nightclubs. as i drifted off to sleep i decided just to spend the day as a tourist and then limit my hunting to the evening hours. i awoke fresh and ready for the day, so off i went to the beach in search of aqua de coca and a few photos. wow- what a mess! the beach was like a double sunday, and people were absolutely crawling over the top of each other! as usual i walked down the the end of copacabana with a thought of making my way all the way to the forte just to see what was going on. i enjoyed my coconut, then headed along the waters edge. the crowd was amazing, it ended up taking almost two hours to walk the distance. as i finished, i glanced at my cell phone to see the time, it was 1:30 pm, i decided it was 5:00 pm somewhere, and wandered back up to the orla to find a beer. all of the posto stands were swamped so i strolled across the street to mp just to have a choppe and light snack. as usual at this time of day, there were a few paying customers, a few hard core *****s with enough money to buy a drink or something and the usual line-up around the hedge. i settled in, ordered a choppe, a presunto and queijo sandwich and some french fries. i fended of the hard cores in the restaurant, although i did collect a few phone numbers just in case the night went poorly, and pondered what to do with the rest of the day. just as i had made up my mind to ride the tram up to the christo, i noticed a little spinner standing outside the hedge. after some time and a couple of more choppes pondering, i waved her over. she announced her name a vanessa, and as i wound through a less than totally focused interview, i learned that she claimed to be 23 (always seems to be preferred number for these girls), claimed to work at taco, a jeans mostly clothing store in rio sul shopping, only did this part time to make her car payment, and that she was available for as much of the afternoon as i cared to spend for r$200. it only took about 10 minutes to turn that into r$100, for a hour or two, so off to the hotel we went. i checked her in, yes the princess copacabana is still guest friendly, but they did charge me r$60 (more on that later). we settled into the room, she had declined anything to drink at mp, but when she noticed i had a bottle of johnnie walker red on the table, she asked if i had any red bull. having read all of the reports here and having noticed that red bull and anything seems to be a obsession with brasileira's, i had in fact pre-prepared on this front having packed 4- 4 packs of red bull in my baggage and bought 2 bottles of johnnie walker at the duty free in atlanta. i made her call room service for ice, poured her a drink, and myself a scotch on the rocks a i hate red bull, then settled in for some cuddling and light petting. i thought this was moving very slowly, when her cell phone rang, she had a short, frantic conversation, then turned to me and said her sister was her roommate and had just told her their parents were coming over and would be at her apartment in 1. 5 hours. i assumed this was bull shit, but figured i had a hour to finish this session. she obviously wasn't going to leave without her money either as she immediately swallowed he drink in one gulp and started kissing and pulling my clothes off. next thing i know i am naked, on the couch in the room and she is fully clothed deep throating me. i must confess, she was very good at sucking me off, alternating between my cock and my balls with a zest i don't usually see with these women. after about 10 minutes of this, she pulls me to me feet and leads me to the bed. i expected the usual shower, etc. these women want before fucking. i guess she was in too big of a hurry, because she just pulled her top off, pulled her thong out from under her skirt, pushed a condom on me, and mounted me, still with her skirt on. she was hot, wet and aggressive, all of which i credited to her wanting to hurry up and get finished. i assumed she would just ride me for a bit, then want me to finish up on top. i was seriously wrong, every time i tried to sit up, slow her down, or roll her over, she just pushed me back down and bucked away! it seemed more like a [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) than making love, but actually it was fantastic and fueled some pretty nasty fantasies in my mind. at the pace she was riding me and the visual of the sweat puring down between her breasts it wasn't long and i was cumming buckets in the camisinha. now she slowed down, rolled over, kicked her legs up to pull off her skirt and started rubbing her clit! i started to kiss and suck her titties, she looks at me and said very clearly in english. bite! so bite i did, enough to leave little red marks all over her tits. i also slipped 2 fingers in her ass and finger fucked it til i felt her cum in a rush. she laid there for a minute or two to catch her breath, now she wanted a shower. i just laid there catching my breath, when she popped out, kissed me on the lips and asked for her money. i grabbed my wallet, which i knew had exactly r$110, in it, which i handed to her. she took a minute to look at it, handed me back the r$10, said she didn't need a cab and asked for my cell phone. i handed it to her, she started to go through the numbers in it, some of which were mine, most of which were left in there from the last guy who rented it, and randomly she would say ¨*****¨ and erase a number. she said she had placed her number in it, and if i wasn't cachorro, i should call her tomorrow, after she was off work at 5:00 and she would make up for the rushed session. i asked to wait a minute so i could throw something on to walk her to the lobby, she said ¨i can find my way¨ and walked out!
now it is 3:00 pm, i still haven't played turismo, so off to the shower i went, then off in a cab to the cog tram up to the christo. wow, i thought the crowd was bad on the beach, it took me an hour to get through the que at the ticket counter and get into position to get on the train! finally able to board the tram, i stepped into the back car which was packed and looked for a place to sit. i appeared i was going to have to stand when a girl slid over closer to her friend and patted the seat for me to sit down. i smiled and thanked her, then sat down. as soon as the tram started to move she looked at me and said como chame? i replied with my name said e¨ voce, to which she said grazi. finally i got to the top, and toured around which i have seen many times before. it was amazing to see just how crowded it was. after 45 minutes or so, i decided i needed something to drink, so i circled around the statue to head down the stairs to the cafe. as i rounded the corner i ran into grazi and her friends so i asked her if i could take a photo of her. she said of course, so i did, then asked if i could buy her and her friends something to drink in return for sharing the seat. we went down to the cafe, i had a beer, grazi and her friends had guarana and we chatted a bit. as it turned out grazi was there with her best friend and her boyfriend, was from ipanema and was a student at a beauty school. grazi's girlfriend needed to go to the restroom, so off wandered her and the boyfriend. i assumed that was it, so i said to grazi that i was vary pleased to meet her and prepared to wander off to the tram for the return trip. grazi said she would like to ride down with me, so we waited for her friends then headed down. on the way down, grazi said she thought i was a nice gringo, she was not a gdp and wondered if i would give her my cell number. i said sure, handed her the phone and she typed the number in her phone. once down we said farewell and off to the hotel i went. i was sitting on the balcony thinking about where to go that evening when my phone rang. it was grazi! , she said her friends wanted the evening for amor and wondered what i was doing. i told her i wasn't sure yet, she asked if i was interested in going to rio scenarium ¨just as friends¨? i love that place, so i said sure if she would meet me at galito's in ipanema to eat something before we went. she said she only lived a few blocks from there and would be glad to. we met had a bite, then grabbed a cab to the bar. i really like lapa and love the look and feel of rio scenarium. i always tend to stay over on the older folky style side of the place so that is where we went. we had a great time drinking and tapping to the music. this is the closest thing i have ever had in rio to a date, and i just had a great time. these girls are so full of life, so flirty, and just love to have a good time. we wandered over to the disco side after awhile and danced and drank until about 2:00. i was getting tired, so i said to grazi, i needed to get some sleep. she said she could leave too, so we went out and grabbed a cab. true to her word, she wasn't a *****, but was great at being a gf, so we kissed and necked our way to ipanema to drop her off. i promised to call her later on my trip so we could go out again. even tho' it didn't lead to pussy, there is no doubt the evening planted some seeds in my mind about how to make this trip different. i wondered what the pros would think about a ¨couples¨ type of day and decided i would test the theory with vanessa tomorrow. looking back i suspect there are literally thousands of women in rio like grazi that aren't pros in the traditional sense, but see no issue in using a gringo's money to allow them to go out and do the things they cannot afford to do.
with luck i will shrink a couple of photos of today and post for you guys.
cheers
editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
They are also closed. Lights out. Does not look like they are remodeling. Has been that way for over a month.
Oops sorry - am not in RJ atm. Didn't know they were closing.
Germano123
11-12-07, 08:45
Hello,
Would you please be so kind and let us read your report in a more easier way.
You are writing without any break and this makes it very difficult to read.
If you make some breaks like this it makes it easier for us to read.
Thank you soooo much.
Thanks for this great report.
Good day today.
Had some good food and then I banged a tight little mulatta (Elizabete. Pics were posted in Sep). She was my warm up. Why a warm up. I had a date with a civilian (non gdp) lined up for 9pm. So I needed to get it on first so I won't be so horny when we go out.
I met the civilian a few months ago. Spent about 2 hours having conversation and drinks. She only drinks juice and soda:.((Around 1230 she was tired and wanted to go home. I guess its gonna take longer. Since she was not ready to hit the sheets, we parted and I went to Help. The place was jam packed. Never seen it like that before. Anyway, after talking and dancing with a few, I saw Fabi. A tall Asian looking babe. She is about 5' 11'' with heels on. I met her in Sep. At that time she wanted 400 and only came down to 300, so I passed. This time, we talked briefly and I told her I am taking her home with me tonight. Danced with her and let her know it was on. She wanted 300, I countered with 200 and she agreed.
After two rounds we slept. She stayed til 1pm. I may repeat with her because the snatch is good and her body is tight. But. Yes there is always a but. Her BJ is lacking. Overall, good attitude.
Off to Solarium in about 30 minutes for some more terma action. I was there 2 days ago and had a smokin blonde babe who blew my socks off. She sucked me really good. She went for the condom, but I wanted more, so she went at it some more til I was ready to mount. Outf*ckingstanding experience! I am gonna hit that again Monday. She is off today, so I will bang 2 others I saw.
2 more days til my wing man Cho arrives. Don't worry, I will keep the girls occupied til you get here. And no I did not bang Fabi in your bed;.))Hi Donnie,
Thanks for the info last night in Solarium. I was glad the girl I waited for most of the night turned out to be very good. Did not make it to help last night. Going back to 4x4 tonight and then probably to help.
Hojeobrigado
11-13-07, 02:53
Germano,
My friend, as I prepare day 3 please let me know what you want----- do you want me to tighten up the paragraphs? Or do you want me to just say I fucked this one, then that one? Or would you prefer me to just report my trip. After all they are the memories of my trip, I am just trying to add to the forum.
Please advise,
Hoje
Hello,
Would you please be so kind and let us read your report in a more easier way.
You are writing without any break and this makes it very difficult to read.
If you make some breaks like this it makes it easier for us to read.
Thank you soooo much.
Thanks for this great report.
day one left me wiped out and tired after the session at solarium, so i decided to retire for the evening and just get some sleep to recover from the flight and tati. i had stopped in at the duty free near the baggage claim to pick-up a box of romeo y' juliettas fresh from habana to enjoy while in country. as i set on the little balcony in my room at the princess copacabana, puffing away contentedly, i wrestled with how to spend day 2. the counter ladies at solarium had mentioned that tomorrow was a holiday and they and pretty much all of the termas in rio would be enjoying a 3 day weekend closed. this didn't worry me too much, i seem to have a knack for running into previously unknown holidays in brasil and tend to find out that the mongering just moves to more or less free lance areas like shenanigans or other nightclubs. as i drifted off to sleep i decided just to spend the day as a tourist and then limit my hunting to the evening hours. i awoke fresh and ready for the day, so off i went to the beach in search of aqua de coca and a few photos. wow- what a mess! the beach was like a double sunday, and people were absolutely crawling over the top of each other! as usual i walked down the the end of copacabana with a thought of making my way all the way to the forte just to see what was going on. i enjoyed my coconut, then headed along the waters edge. the crowd was amazing, it ended up taking almost two hours to walk the distance. as i finished, i glanced at my cell phone to see the time, it was 1:30 pm, i decided it was 5:00 pm somewhere, and wandered back up to the orla to find a beer. all of the posto stands were swamped so i strolled across the street to mp just to have a choppe and light snack. as usual at this time of day, there were a few paying customers, a few hard core *****s with enough money to buy a drink or something and the usual line-up around the hedge. i settled in, ordered a choppe, a presunto and queijo sandwich and some french fries. i fended of the hard cores in the restaurant, although i did collect a few phone numbers just in case the night went poorly, and pondered what to do with the rest of the day. just as i had made up my mind to ride the tram up to the christo, i noticed a little spinner standing outside the hedge. after some time and a couple of more choppes pondering, i waved her over. she announced her name a vanessa, and as i wound through a less than totally focused interview, i learned that she claimed to be 23 (always seems to be preferred number for these girls), claimed to work at taco, a jeans mostly clothing store in rio sul shopping, only did this part time to make her car payment, and that she was available for as much of the afternoon as i cared to spend for r$200. it only took about 10 minutes to turn that into r$100, for a hour or two, so off to the hotel we went. i checked her in, yes the princess copacabana is still guest friendly, but they did charge me r$60 (more on that later). we settled into the room, she had declined anything to drink at mp, but when she noticed i had a bottle of johnnie walker red on the table, she asked if i had any red bull. having read all of the reports here and having noticed that red bull and anything seems to be a obsession with brasileira's, i had in fact pre-prepared on this front having packed 4- 4 packs of red bull in my baggage and bought 2 bottles of johnnie walker at the duty free in atlanta. i made her call room service for ice, poured her a drink, and myself a scotch on the rocks a i hate red bull, then settled in for some cuddling and light petting. i thought this was moving very slowly, when her cell phone rang, she had a short, frantic conversation, then turned to me and said her sister was her roommate and had just told her their parents were coming over and would be at her apartment in 1. 5 hours. i assumed this was bull shit, but figured i had a hour to finish this session. she obviously wasn't going to leave without her money either as she immediately swallowed he drink in one gulp and started kissing and pulling my clothes off. next thing i know i am naked, on the couch in the room and she is fully clothed deep throating me. i must confess, she was very good at sucking me off, alternating between my cock and my balls with a zest i don't usually see with these women. after about 10 minutes of this, she pulls me to me feet and leads me to the bed. i expected the usual shower, etc. these women want before fucking. i guess she was in too big of a hurry, because she just pulled her top off, pulled her thong out from under her skirt, pushed a condom on me, and mounted me, still with her skirt on. she was hot, wet and aggressive, all of which i credited to her wanting to hurry up and get finished. i assumed she would just ride me for a bit, then want me to finish up on top. i was seriously wrong, every time i tried to sit up, slow her down, or roll her over, she just pushed me back down and bucked away! it seemed more like a [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) than making love, but actually it was fantastic and fueled some pretty nasty fantasies in my mind. at the pace she was riding me and the visual of the sweat puring down between her breasts it wasn't long and i was cumming buckets in the camisinha. now she slowed down, rolled over, kicked her legs up to pull off her skirt and started rubbing her clit! i started to kiss and suck her titties, she looks at me and said very clearly in english. bite! so bite i did, enough to leave little red marks all over her tits. i also slipped 2 fingers in her ass and finger fucked it til i felt her cum in a rush. she laid there for a minute or two to catch her breath, now she wanted a shower. i just laid there catching my breath, when she popped out, kissed me on the lips and asked for her money. i grabbed my wallet, which i knew had exactly r$110, in it, which i handed to her. she took a minute to look at it, handed me back the r$10, said she didn't need a cab and asked for my cell phone. i handed it to her, she started to go through the numbers in it, some of which were mine, most of which were left in there from the last guy who rented it, and randomly she would say ¨*****¨ and erase a number. she said she had placed her number in it, and if i wasn't cachorro, i should call her tomorrow, after she was off work at 5:00 and she would make up for the rushed session. i asked to wait a minute so i could throw something on to walk her to the lobby, she said ¨i can find my way¨ and walked out!
now it is 3:00 pm, i still haven't played turismo, so off to the shower i went, then off in a cab to the cog tram up to the christo. wow, i thought the crowd was bad on the beach, it took me an hour to get through the que at the ticket counter and get into position to get on the train! finally able to board the tram, i stepped into the back car which was packed and looked for a place to sit. i appeared i was going to have to stand when a girl slid over closer to her friend and patted the seat for me to sit down. i smiled and thanked her, then sat down. as soon as the tram started to move she looked at me and said como chame? i replied with my name said e¨ voce, to which she said grazi. finally i got to the top, and toured around which i have seen many times before. it was amazing to see just how crowded it was. after 45 minutes or so, i decided i needed something to drink, so i circled around the statue to head down the stairs to the cafe. as i rounded the corner i ran into grazi and her friends so i asked her if i could take a photo of her. she said of course, so i did, then asked if i could buy her and her friends something to drink in return for sharing the seat. we went down to the cafe, i had a beer, grazi and her friends had guarana and we chatted a bit. as it turned out grazi was there with her best friend and her boyfriend, was from ipanema and was a student at a beauty school. grazi's girlfriend needed to go to the restroom, so off wandered her and the boyfriend. i assumed that was it, so i said to grazi that i was vary pleased to meet her and prepared to wander off to the tram for the return trip. grazi said she would like to ride down with me, so we waited for her friends then headed down. on the way down, grazi said she thought i was a nice gringo, she was not a gdp and wondered if i would give her my cell number. i said sure, handed her the phone and she typed the number in her phone. once down we said farewell and off to the hotel i went. i was sitting on the balcony thinking about where to go that evening when my phone rang. it was grazi! , she said her friends wanted the evening for amor and wondered what i was doing. i told her i wasn't sure yet, she asked if i was interested in going to rio scenarium ¨just as friends¨? i love that place, so i said sure if she would meet me at galito's in ipanema to eat something before we went. she said she only lived a few blocks from there and would be glad to. we met had a bite, then grabbed a cab to the bar. i really like lapa and love the look and feel of rio scenarium. i always tend to stay over on the older folky style side of the place so that is where we went. we had a great time drinking and tapping to the music. this is the closest thing i have ever had in rio to a date, and i just had a great time. these girls are so full of life, so flirty, and just love to have a good time. we wandered over to the disco side after awhile and danced and drank until about 2:00. i was getting tired, so i said to grazi, i needed to get some sleep. she said she could leave too, so we went out and grabbed a cab. true to her word, she wasn't a *****, but was great at being a gf, so we kissed and necked our way to ipanema to drop her off. i promised to call her later on my trip so we could go out again. even tho' it didn't lead to pussy, there is no doubt the evening planted some seeds in my mind about how to make this trip different. i wondered what the pros would think about a ¨couples¨ type of day and decided i would test the theory with vanessa tomorrow. looking back i suspect there are literally thousands of women in rio like grazi that aren't pros in the traditional sense, but see no issue in using a gringo's money to allow them to go out and do the things they cannot afford to do.
with luck i will shrink a couple of photos of today and post for you guys.
cheers
editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
hojeobrigado,
excellent report. you really made start to think about my up coming trip. brazilizian are, as you stated, so full of life and enjoy living in the moment. that is why i love brasil.
lonzof
A couple of remarks about posting etiquette:
Hojeobrigado: Please hit that return key a few additional times and put some paragraphs in. Otherwise, these are tremendous reports, which I will put into the ROD thread.
Lonzof: Please don't quote an entire very long post. It adds very little to the forum and wastes bandwidth.
Thanks
euro
Germano123
11-13-07, 09:11
Hello, as Euro1oo says:
Hit that return key a few additional times and put some paragraphs in. Otherwise, these are tremendous reports, which I will put into the ROD thread.
I didn't remember the words, sorry. English isn't my motherlanguage.
I like to read your reports, but it is so difficult without paragraphs. Keep on reporting, thank you.
Germano,
My friend, as I prepare day 3 please let me know what you want----- do you want me to tighten up the paragraphs? Or do you want me to just say I fucked this one, then that one? Or would you prefer me to just report my trip. After all they are the memories of my trip, I am just trying to add to the forum.
Please advise,
Hoje
Just put in a few blank lines now and then. Hard to read line to line when all together. great report.. thanks
Gary Locke
11-13-07, 16:39
Visited Rio a few times in recent months and have had a great time. Help was an interesting experience....but hotels in Ipanema / Copa seem to stop all visits from "friends" - any advice on this?
Havent tried any Termas yet. Which would be best for larger curvy Brazilian girls!
Full Throttle
11-13-07, 20:55
On (yet another) rainy day, I had time enough to explore the hallways of my adopted favorite building, Rio Branco 156. Sad news to report:
3330: Closed (I think they moved to 2622)
1833: My favorite girls, Cleo and Fernanda, were both gone. The 3 there weren't bad, but not great and I moved on.
1706: Closed and being renovated.
1825: Closed at 2pm on a Monday, which probably means closed.
2622 seems to be doing fine. It is a very nice facility, 2nd only to 3320 in the building. There were 6 unoccupied garotas, 3 doable. I chose Juliana who I would recommend. A soft body, but proportional and large, real tits. At first, only lfk, but more intense later. She had a very sweet sexuality about her, reminiscent of the best terma girls. Very spirited BBBJ deep throat (as deep as I am capable of, anyway). Very receptive to DATY with a nice O. Finished with quasi-CIM/ facial.
Price 65R/ 40 minutes, 85R/ hour.
Keeping the downtown apartment list current will be a challenge as they open and close so much. And, the GPGUIA reviews often provide Destack . com references that, in turn, only have phone numbers. So, Centro is a wide open opportunity for members, particularly Portogese speakers, to contribute.
FT
Keeping the downtown apartment list current will be a challenge as they open and close so much.
That's a problem. I heard from buddies that several places closed/moved.
We all trust in FT doing a nice update. I'll continue the update after New Year.
That's a problem. I heard from buddies that several places closed/moved.
We all trust in FT doing a nice update. I'll continue the update after New Year.I'm heading down to Rio this weekend for 10 days or so and will try to do my part in the reconnaissance.
Information is power!
On (yet another) rainy day, I had time enough to explore the hallways of my adopted favorite building, Rio Branco 156. Sad news to report:
FTThis is hysterical as I have a business meeting in this building next Monday at 10:00 AM. What time do these massage places open? Maybe I can stop by for a quickie depending on how the meeting goes.
The Watcher
11-13-07, 23:25
day one left me wiped out and tired after the session at solarium, so i decided to retire for the evening and just get some sleep to recover from the flight and tati.
i had stopped in at the duty free near the baggage claim to pick-up a box of romeo y' juliettas fresh from habana to enjoy while in country. as i set on the little balcony in my room at the princess copacabana, puffing away contentedly, i wrestled with how to spend day 2.
the counter ladies at solarium had mentioned that tomorrow was a holiday and they and pretty much all of the termas in rio would be enjoying a 3 day weekend closed. this didn't worry me too much, i seem to have a knack for running into previously unknown holidays in brasil and tend to find out that the mongering just moves to more or less free lance areas like shenanigans or other nightclubs.
as i drifted off to sleep i decided just to spend the day as a tourist and then limit my hunting to the evening hours. i awoke fresh and ready for the day, so off i went to the beach in search of aqua de coca and a few photos.
wow- what a mess! the beach was like a double sunday, and people were absolutely crawling over the top of each other! as usual i walked down the the end of copacabana with a thought of making my way all the way to the forte just to see what was going on.
i enjoyed my coconut, then headed along the waters edge. the crowd was amazing, it ended up taking almost two hours to walk the distance. as i finished, i glanced at my cell phone to see the time, it was 1:30 pm, i decided it was 5:00 pm somewhere, and wandered back up to the orla to find a beer.
all of the posto stands were swamped so i strolled across the street to mp just to have a choppe and light snack. as usual at this time of day, there were a few paying customers, a few hard core *****s with enough money to buy a drink or something and the usual line-up around the hedge.
i settled in, ordered a choppe, a presunto and queijo sandwich and some french fries. i fended of the hard cores in the restaurant, although i did collect a few phone numbers just in case the night went poorly, and pondered what to do with the rest of the day.
just as i had made up my mind to ride the tram up to the christo, i noticed a little spinner standing outside the hedge. after some time and a couple of more choppes pondering, i waved her over. she announced her name a vanessa, and as i wound through a less than totally focused interview, i learned that she claimed to be 23 (always seems to be preferred number for these girls), claimed to work at taco, a jeans mostly clothing store in rio sul shopping, only did this part time to make her car payment, and that she was available for as much of the afternoon as i cared to spend for r$200.
it only took about 10 minutes to turn that into r$100, for a hour or two, so off to the hotel we went. i checked her in, yes the princess copacabana is still guest friendly, but they did charge me r$60 (more on that later). we settled into the room, she had declined anything to drink at mp, but when she noticed i had a bottle of johnnie walker red on the table, she asked if i had any red bull.
having read all of the reports here and having noticed that red bull and anything seems to be a obsession with brasileira's, i had in fact pre-prepared on this front having packed 4- 4 packs of red bull in my baggage and bought 2 bottles of johnnie walker at the duty free in atlanta. i made her call room service for ice, poured her a drink, and myself a scotch on the rocks a i hate red bull, then settled in for some cuddling and light petting.
i thought this was moving very slowly, when her cell phone rang, she had a short, frantic conversation, then turned to me and said her sister was her roommate and had just told her their parents were coming over and would be at her apartment in 1. 5 hours.
i assumed this was bull shit, but figured i had a hour to finish this session. she obviously wasn't going to leave without her money either as she immediately swallowed he drink in one gulp and started kissing and pulling my clothes off. next thing i know i am naked, on the couch in the room and she is fully clothed deep throating me. i must confess, she was very good at sucking me off, alternating between my cock and my balls with a zest i don't usually see with these women.
after about 10 minutes of this, she pulls me to me feet and leads me to the bed. i expected the usual shower, etc. these women want before fucking. i guess she was in too big of a hurry, because she just pulled her top off, pulled her thong out from under her skirt, pushed a condom on me, and mounted me, still with her skirt on. she was hot, wet and aggressive, all of which i credited to her wanting to hurry up and get finished.
i assumed she would just ride me for a bit, then want me to finish up on top. i was seriously wrong, every time i tried to sit up, slow her down, or roll her over, she just pushed me back down and bucked away! it seemed more like a [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) than making love, but actually it was fantastic and fueled some pretty nasty fantasies in my mind.
at the pace she was riding me and the visual of the sweat puring down between her breasts it wasn't long and i was cumming buckets in the camisinha. now she slowed down, rolled over, kicked her legs up to pull off her skirt and started rubbing her clit! i started to kiss and suck her titties, she looks at me and said very clearly in english. bite! so bite i did, enough to leave little red marks all over her tits.
i also slipped 2 fingers in her ass and finger fucked it til i felt her cum in a rush. she laid there for a minute or two to catch her breath, now she wanted a shower.
i just laid there catching my breath, when she popped out, kissed me on the lips and asked for her money. i grabbed my wallet, which i knew had exactly r$110, in it, which i handed to her. she took a minute to look at it, handed me back the r$10, said she didn't need a cab and asked for my cell phone.
i handed it to her, she started to go through the numbers in it, some of which were mine, most of which were left in there from the last guy who rented it, and randomly she would say ¨*****¨ and erase a number. she said she had placed her number in it, and if i wasn't cachorro, i should call her tomorrow, after she was off work at 5:00 and she would make up for the rushed session. i asked to wait a minute so i could throw something on to walk her to the lobby, she said ¨i can find my way¨ and walked out!
now it is 3:00 pm, i still haven't played turismo, so off to the shower i went, then off in a cab to the cog tram up to the christo. wow, i thought the crowd was bad on the beach, it took me an hour to get through the que at the ticket counter and get into position to get on the train! finally able to board the tram, i stepped into the back car which was packed and looked for a place to sit.
i appeared i was going to have to stand when a girl slid over closer to her friend and patted the seat for me to sit down. i smiled and thanked her, then sat down. as soon as the tram started to move she looked at me and said como chame? i replied with my name said e¨ voce, to which she said grazi.
finally i got to the top, and toured around which i have seen many times before. it was amazing to see just how crowded it was. after 45 minutes or so, i decided i needed something to drink, so i circled around the statue to head down the stairs to the cafe.
as i rounded the corner i ran into grazi and her friends so i asked her if i could take a photo of her. she said of course, so i did, then asked if i could buy her and her friends something to drink in return for sharing the seat. we went down to the cafe, i had a beer, grazi and her friends had guarana and we chatted a bit.
as it turned out grazi was there with her best friend and her boyfriend, was from ipanema and was a student at a beauty school. grazi's girlfriend needed to go to the restroom, so off wandered her and the boyfriend. i assumed that was it, so i said to grazi that i was vary pleased to meet her and prepared to wander off to the tram for the return trip.
grazi said she would like to ride down with me, so we waited for her friends then headed down. on the way down, grazi said she thought i was a nice gringo, she was not a gdp and wondered if i would give her my cell number. i said sure, handed her the phone and she typed the number in her phone. once down we said farewell and off to the hotel i went.
i was sitting on the balcony thinking about where to go that evening when my phone rang. it was grazi! , she said her friends wanted the evening for amor and wondered what i was doing. i told her i wasn't sure yet, she asked if i was interested in going to rio scenarium ¨just as friends¨? i love that place, so i said sure if she would meet me at galito's in ipanema to eat something before we went.
she said she only lived a few blocks from there and would be glad to. we met had a bite, then grabbed a cab to the bar. i really like lapa and love the look and feel of rio scenarium. i always tend to stay over on the older folky style side of the place so that is where we went. we had a great time drinking and tapping to the music.
this is the closest thing i have ever had in rio to a date, and i just had a great time. these girls are so full of life, so flirty, and just love to have a good time. we wandered over to the disco side after awhile and danced and drank until about 2:00.
i was getting tired, so i said to grazi, i needed to get some sleep. she said she could leave too, so we went out and grabbed a cab. true to her word, she wasn't a *****, but was great at being a gf, so we kissed and necked our way to ipanema to drop her off. i promised to call her later on my trip so we could go out again.
even tho' it didn't lead to pussy, there is no doubt the evening planted some seeds in my mind about how to make this trip different. i wondered what the pros would think about a ¨couples¨ type of day and decided i would test the theory with vanessa tomorrow. looking back i suspect there are literally thousands of women in rio like grazi that aren't pros in the traditional sense, but see no issue in using a gringo's money to allow them to go out and do the things they cannot afford to do.
with luck i will shrink a couple of photos of today and post for you guys.
cheers
editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
the above is how i would like to see your report. basically, all i did was add a hard return after every couple of sentences. separating your long report into several paragraphs makes it easier to read.
btw, it is a great report.
I am new to the forum, and although I can speak fluent Portuguese, I have not
Had the opportunity to go to brazil yet. But I was wondering, with the GDP's
Being so beautiful and all, have any of you ever came inside of any of the
GDP's? Either by accident or on purpose?
have any of you ever came inside of any of the GDP's? Either by accident or on purpose?Accidents: My condoms have slipped off several times. No doubt there was some "spillage" as a result. As far as I know, there were no repercussions. Luckily.
On purpose: I think twice I got so caught up in the "heat of the moment" that I screwed a GDP (at her behest) without a condom. A very, very, VERY stupid thing to do. I can't emphasize that enough. I tried my best to pull out in time, but there's always a little "pre-cum" involved, isn't there? So pulling out is never a guarantee. Luckily, as far as I know, there were no repercussions for either of us. But it was still an extraordinarily reckless thing to do. And more than once! Shame on me.
Alex Deuce
11-14-07, 13:59
I am new to the forum, and although I can speak fluent Portuguese, I have not
Had the opportunity to go to brazil yet. But I was wondering, with the GDP's
Being so beautiful and all, have any of you ever came inside of any of the
GDP's? Either by accident or on purpose?
Yes, when i first worked in visited Sao Paulo and the first thing out the ***** mouth was " I have baby for you!" I was a scared mother fucker for 30 days and 6 months waiting on the HIV and Pregnancy test
El Austriaco
11-14-07, 17:44
I am new to the forum, and although I can speak fluent Portuguese, I have not
Had the opportunity to go to brazil yet. But I was wondering, with the GDP's
Being so beautiful and all, have any of you ever came inside of any of the
GDP's? Either by accident or on purpose?
Yeah, I have (accidentally. In other words, broken condom). My advice? Run, run, run :)
But seriously, NEVER EVER give in to a GDP who suggests you do her bareback. Dump her as soon as she even suggests it. At best, you will have a girl on your hands that believes she's something more than a GFE to you ("after all, I am fucking you bareback... just like a regular GF". Yeah, riiiiiiiiight), worse, you might catch some pretty nasty diseases, even worse, you might get her pregnant, with everything that that entails. Neither one seems like a pleasant scenario to me... more like a huge headache.
And coming inside a Rio GDP on purpose... uffffffff, I hope you're ready for a major emotional roller coaster ride.
EA
I am new to the forum, and although I can speak fluent Portuguese, I have not
Had the opportunity to go to brazil yet. But I was wondering, with the GDP's
Being so beautiful and all, have any of you ever came inside of any of the
GDP's? Either by accident or on purpose?
I guess you mean without a condom! Only after I have been with a girl for a long time, and she and I have HIV tests. Never by accident.
Some of the girls will want to do this very soon in a relationship, run from them, they have other motives, I suspect.
I was with one girl once, she called me 3 days afterwards said she was so nervous as she was now pregnant with my baby and afraid her husband would find out..
I just texted her back: Do not call me anymore for these reasons:
1. Condom
2. Vasecotomy
3. 3 days?
4. Husband?
never have heard from her again, I guess she wanted money.
Hello Guys,
I am back from Rio. The forum has been very helpful. However, once you are down there everything is so apparent and there are many fellows around to exchange experiences that it will be easy to find out what is going on where.
I had made reservations at the Rio International Hotel initially. However, when I passed the hotel by taxi I decided to let the taxi driver give me a tour around first to see the location. Since the Rio International was somewhat at the beginning of the Copacabana and much of the action appeared to take place around Othon Hotel, I spontaneously decided to check into Othon. I decided to take a room with sea view, which was charged with 380 R$ per night. Othon is next to Mataia Pata and the famous Help disco. The Copacobana in general is not that nice. The people that hang around there are mostly hookers, mongerers of all types.
After arrival I had a beer at Mataya Pata. In general I was somewhat disappointed by the general quality of the girls. Many very dark, very short girls with a lot of booty (that are very much liked by the abundant african american rapper style tourists from the US). I spotted a nice girl. 21 year old, blondish hair, not that tall with a knock out body. Her name was Alini as I later found out. I was just watching the scene, declined several requests from the girls and had dinner at Mataya Pata, which was not too bad.
After a break at the hotel, I went to Help discotheque, which is just next to hotel Orthon and Mataya Pata at the Av. Atlantico. There is an interesting gathering in the bars in front of Help just before the people get into Help at around midnight.
The line up of girls is not that appealing in my opinion. In Help it turned out, there have been something like 150-200 girls and perhaps the same number of men. There are 3-4 hot girls that look like brasilian cover girls. These girls usually have a regular guy with them and are just there to dance and to show off and will most probably go home with their regular guy.
Out of the other 150-200 girls there was nothing I really liked. So when I finally met Alini from Mataya Pata again, I decided to invite her for a drink.
In general, the situation at HELP is, that the girls are dancing and having fun and would not approach the men by themselfes.
So I ended up going to Orthon with Alini for 400 R$ for the entire night. Arriving at Orthon, she had to register and I had to sign that I would pay a second person charge of 100 R$ for her to stay in the hotel. The receptionist told us the girls have to leave the hotel by 05. 00 am the latest. (it was already 03. 00)
The night with Alini was very GFE like, we cuddled, kissed and had several times good sex. We both came and fell asleep thereafter. After another weak up sex round in the morning, Alinii left at around 11. 00. Nobody in the hotel actually cared she was leaving later.
On my second day, I decided to meet a girl I have contacted through Brazilcupid. Her name is Glace and she lives at Copacabana. She claims to be a non GDP regular girl. Well, her pics at Brazilcupid where very nice. And she actually allowed me to see her webcam, which confirmed her nice appearance. We wanted to meet at 19. 00 in a bar close to the hostel "sun to beach" (or something like that). The bar was quite nice, but she did not show up. Hmmmmm. Damned. Later she claimed that I misunderstood her and she was waiting for me in the other bar. (I am not sure about this). Well. What do you do with such an evening? ! Right. You end up at Help. This time I met some other german guys and actually had a nice evening. I have seen one really hot girl with platinblonde hair, latino skin, fake tits. When I had spottet her, she just went home with some other Gringo. It was a Saturday and HELP was quite busy compared to the other day. In this busy environment, I did not manage to find my girl. However I had a nice evening anyways and hoped to meet the platinblond angel next time, so I called it a night.
The other day, I decided to go to IPANEMA beach. Woww. This is a lot better than Copacabana. There is much more beach action. Some nice girls around. What I notioned several times is, that at Copacabana and Ipanema are quite a number of well trained guys. Both, gringos and brasilian guys. I really did not expect this and had hoped all other guys at Help, Mataya Pata and the beach are ugly, old mongerers that would not find any woman other then there. Well, this is not the case. If you are at HELP and there is only 3-5 really hot chicks, there is considerable competition for these girls and the girls can choose between good looking guys with money, rather then guys that have only money.
What I did not know though, at Ipanema there is quite a bit of gay action. This is true for the beach aswell as the bars and restaurants close to the beach.
I had an appointment with another girl I met through Brazilcupid. A 22 year old secretary/student, looking like of european /portugese and actually very nice pics at brazilcupid. She told me she would come to pick me up in the hotel and I had suggested to go out for dinner in a nice restaurant. However, she would need the money for the taxi, which is 75R$ for one way. I agreed and asked her to make a reservation for a restaurant. She asked if I would like Italian and I agreed. She came in time and I would not have recognised her by first sight. The face was still pretty, but she was sort of overweight and had a thick ass and thick legs. :.(ok I thought. I told her that I would need to do something later that evening but that I had time until 22. 00. So we took a taxi and drove to the Italian restaurant in Ipanema. The restaurant was empty. The tables overloaded with whine glasses. Ok. Not the style of restaurant I would need with a 22 year old, adipose girl. But I am a nice guy, so I did not say nothing. We ordered. She took the full dinner with starter (shrimp salad), some fish, and later the dessert. Well, when we ordered the dessert it was already around ten and I wanted to leave that boring situation asap. However, she ordered some flamed fruits and here comes the waitor, building up a kitchen at our table to flame the fruits at our table. This took in total 40 minutes I would say. So that by the time she had finished that, I was cooking myself. The service in that restaurant was very bad and you had to ask everything three times. The other guests where 80 year and older americans. Ok. So here comes the bill. ! I had caprese salad and some pasta as main dish. She had shrimp salad, some fish, and the flamed fruits with icecream. For drinking. Water, some juices and coffe. No wines.
The total bill was a helarous 350 R$! In addition, they would not accept Master Card, so that I had to give away my precious cash, I needed for more entertaining girls.
So my experience with a non pro, regular girl was a boring evening leaving a total damage of 500 R$! I must say this told me a lesson!
Anyways, that evening I again went to Help. Guess what, I eventually ran into that platinblonde chick. I smiled to her and she came closer. She said that she would not speak english, only italian, spanish and portugese. After I looked in her eyes deeply and since there was no real conversation possible, she told me: "hmmm. You are expected to ask me something". So I answered. Well, would you like to spend the night with me and if so, how can we close the deal. ". She answered she would take 500 R$ for all night.
Guess what guys. I immediately agreed without any hesitation, knowing that this one girl would not go for anything less. I asked her to wait for a second, I justed wanted to say "bye" to a budy. Within that second, where I was walking 5 m from her to the bar, where my buddy was standing, another guy was walking up to her and they were negotiating. To make a long story short. The girl went with that 60 year old Chinese guy, who she claims, was a regular client and she could not decline! Hmmmm. Ok. My buddy and I were laughing about the situation and had never expected to loose a girl to a Chinese guy. Well. Bad luck. She was really looking hot that night. With a black cocktail dress, her dark but not black skin, bleached hair and diamonds all over! I am sure somebody would know her here in the forum.
Later that evening I ran again into Alinii, that I had already the first evening. And guess what, I went home with her again. But I must say, that evening there would have been some other options too. Actually, the first night I always had that feeling, that the real lookers might eventually to come, so I hesitated to decide for a girl in the first place. The other days, when I had an idea of the quality of girls to expect and also how difficult it might be to get that one looker, I was much more open to flirt with the other girls around.
That being said, Rio was an overall enjoyable experience. It is quite safe there. The Othon Hotel has the advantage that you will not need to walk along the copacabana at night. The girls are probably not welcomed in the hotel but part of the daily business. For those who are going for the stunners, you might need several days to be able to pick one.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
But seriously, NEVER EVER give in to a GDP who suggests you do her bareback. Well put!
At best, you will have a girl on your hands that believes she's something more than a GFE to youNot always a bad thing when a GDP thinks she's more than GFE. One of the girls I gave into on barebacking actually became my girlfriend. From then on, I got some of the best free sex of my life. (Along with the emotional roller coaster and constant Carioca drama. But hey, she was worth it.)
Mr Enternational
11-15-07, 04:23
I can't believe you guys answered that.
Superman79
11-15-07, 08:37
So I ended up going to Orthon with Alini for 400 R$ for the entire night. Arriving at Orthon, she had to register and I had to sign that I would pay a second person charge of 100 R$ for her to stay in the hotel. The receptionist told us the girls have to leave the hotel by 05. 00 am the latest. (it was already 03. 00)
.......That being said, Rio was an overall enjoyable experience. It is quite safe there. The Othon Hotel has the advantage that you will not need to walk along the copacabana at night. The girls are probably not welcomed in the hotel but part of the daily business. For those who are going for the stunners, you might need several days to be able to pick one.Oh my goodness Toto. Where do I begin. Good report but geesh. For starters you can save much money by getting a one bedroom apartment for R100 a night which can save you plenty.
2nd, small chance that those girls you met on the net are "regular girls" probably part time program girls and if you are there just a few days don't waste your time.
Thridly. NEVER EVER PAY R400 or R500 for ANY GIRL IN HELP OR ANYWHERE ELSE OUT OF HELP! All this does is ruin it for everybody else and inflate the prices. You can get GREAT action in Help for R150 to R200. You just have to be patient. I refuse to pay more than R200 for all night GFE and never have a problem.
If you want to have a stunner, simply go to the thermas and get their number and if they like you they will spend the night with you when off work.
I know you are a newbie and that is fine but PLEASE learn from your mistakes and you will find your next visit much more enjoyable and you will spend a lot less money!
The experienced monger always has an eye out for balloons, standard advertising for the home of diamonds-in-the-rough. This new downtown venture is located at Teofilo Otoni 166 Sobrado, not far from Clube Oceanico. The ground floor is occupied by Teofilo, an upscale coffee shop with high prices and slow service, but the building is a well restored gem with granite façade and original woodwork. I always assumed that some rich poofter occupied the upstairs, but not so. Club 166 had three girls, two not bad, starting at R$20. Their prospecto states “prazer garantido,” and has a photo of one of the actual girls in residence. How can you go wrong?
I regret to announce the passing of my namesake, Sunset 1967-2007. I imagine there are still some old broads sleeping in the corners who haven’t noticed that the boite has been closed for weeks. “Those were the days my friend...”
Arriving at Orthon, she had to register and I had to sign that I would pay a second person charge of 100 R$ for her to stay in the hotel. The receptionist told us the girls have to leave the hotel by 05. 00 am the latest. (it was already 03. 00)
Alinii left at around 11. 00. Nobody in the hotel actually cared she was leaving later.
You were quite lucky then did not make her leave. I have been there and they were insistant, even coming to the door to escort her out. I would not recommend Othon to anyone that wants to take a girl there after 5am.
Full Throttle
11-15-07, 16:15
Nice report. There are things that I don't think are true and might be misleading to other members. So, just some thoughts and opinions imbedded
Hello Guys,
I am back from Rio. The forum has been very helpful. However, once you are down there everything is so apparent and there are many fellows around to exchange experiences that it will be easy to find out what is going on where.
That is true if you are on a euro-based tourism budget. You could rotate between Barbarellas, Help, Centaurus and L'umos. That sounds like fun-- I wish I could still do it. For the more esoteric value plays dictated by 1.7/1 exchange rates, much more research and ingenuity is required.
After arrival I had a beer at Mataya Pata. In general I was somewhat disappointed by the general quality of the girls. Many very dark, very short girls with a lot of booty (that are very much liked by the abundant african american rapper style tourists from the US).
One thing is now certain: you were definitely at Meia Petaca...
After a break at the hotel, I went to Help discotheque, which is just next to hotel Orthon and Mataya Pata at the Av. Atlantico. There is an interesting gathering in the bars in front of Help just before the people get into Help at around midnight.
The line up of girls is not that appealing in my opinion. In Help it turned out, there have been something like 150-200 girls and perhaps the same number of men. There are 3-4 hot girls that look like brasilian cover girls. These girls usually have a regular guy with them and are just there to dance and to show off and will most probably go home with their regular guy.
I would have to be convinced of this. There are plenty of venues for the girls you describe. They may be with a regular monger customer who pays rent, family, etc., but I doubt the hottest girls in there were legitimate girls with their legitimate boyfriends.
I also would recommend a recount of guests to establish the ratio of guys and girls. I have never seen it anywhere close to 1-to-1. It certainly wasn't on Sunday night. Help business is way up of late, thanks largely to B-747's from the UK and Airbuses from everywhere else in Europe. Also, UA is flying seasonal non-stop service and Delta will start a 2nd flight on certain days in January.
I really like the crowd in Help. As I usually go with girls from other venues, I like Help for the dancing and the party. It's amazing what a turnoff the American accent has become! I have decided I am now merely a late-night desperate play for the girls.
...So I ended up going to Orthon with Alini for 400 R$ for the entire night. Arriving at Orthon, she had to register and I had to sign that I would pay a second person charge of 100 R$ for her to stay in the hotel. The receptionist told us the girls have to leave the hotel by 05. 00 am the latest. (it was already 03. 00)
The night with Alini was very GFE like, we cuddled, kissed and had several times good sex. We both came and fell asleep thereafter.
Umm, well... nevermind.
On my second day, I decided to meet a girl I have contacted through Brazilcupid. Her name is Glace and she lives at Copacabana.
Though he tried many times, Ibiza had very poor results with these matchups. Your experience seems to be on-par. For what it's worth, he had better luck in SP and fantastic luck up north.
What I did not know though, at Ipanema there is quite a bit of gay action. This is true for the beach aswell as the bars and restaurants close to the beach.
They probably heard you pay 400R a night. Actually, the gayest section is the north end of the beach, closer to the jetti.
Anyways, that evening I again went to Help. Guess what, I eventually ran into that platinblonde chick. I smiled to her and she came closer. She said that she would not speak english, only italian, spanish and portugese. After I looked in her eyes deeply and since there was no real conversation possible, she told me: "hmmm. You are expected to ask me something". So I answered. Well, would you like to spend the night with me and if so, how can we close the deal. ". She answered she would take 500 R$ for all night.
Guess what guys. I immediately agreed without any hesitation, knowing that this one girl would not go for anything less.
Umm, well... nevermind.
How about this from earlier in your post:
If you are at HELP and there is only 3-5 really hot chicks, there is considerable competition for these girls and the girls can choose between good looking guys with money, rather then guys that have only money.
Then, later:
...I asked her to wait for a second, I justed wanted to say "bye" to a budy. Within that second, where I was walking 5 m from her to the bar, where my buddy was standing, another guy was walking up to her and they were negotiating. To make a long story short. The girl went with that 60 year old Chinese guy, who she claims, was a regular client and she could not decline! Hmmmm. Ok. My buddy and I were laughing about the situation and had never expected to loose a girl to a Chinese guy.
Is there not a contradiction of logic somewhere?
That being said, Rio was an overall enjoyable experience. It is quite safe there.
Everything else in my post is just for fun contemplation. My response to this part of your post, though, is not. Rio is not safe. It is not safe for locals, tourists, or the police. This is obviously a statistical fact and, from the local Carioca friends I have as well as long-term resident gringos, every bit of anecdotal information I have bears this out as well. I either know people or of people one person removed who have been beaten and robbed of cars, wallets, jewelry... everything mobile. Last month, two friends were held up in their cars. One was beaten silly and the bad guys drove off. Luckily, she had some security system that shut it down. Another guy was held up at 7pm in his car between Centro and Copa. He called the guys' bluff and drove off when traffic allowed. A friend of Ibiza's was robbed at knife-point twice on the beach in broad daylight. The city is on pace for 7,000 murders for the year.
So, if you want to say that you felt safe and comfortable, fine. But making a declarative statement could lead to trouble for another reader.
Pipe Layer99
11-15-07, 19:37
Hi Donnie,
Thanks for the info last night in Solarium. I was glad the girl I waited for most of the night turned out to be very good. Did not make it to help last night. Going back to 4x4 tonight and then probably to help.
You are welcome. Glad it worked. Now you know what to do ;-))
I grabbed two that evening. I visited the place 3 times. All great experiences.
Batting 1000.
Nice report. There are things that I don't think are true and might be misleading to other members. So, just some thoughts and opinions imbedded.
I agree with your analysis 100%. I did not make too many comments, but in the interest of other newbie mongers, you had to make the corrections. I see Toto001's post as an honest view of a 1st timer with a lot of money and probably high standards for a girl.
Help does not have normal girls, Rio is not safe, R$300 for an all night GFE is the highest you should pay, most mongers are not great looking 20 year olds (he might have observed the gay guys in Ipanema, they are in shape).
But it is an interesting post.
El Austriaco
11-15-07, 20:52
First of all, great post, FT. I was going to write something about Toto's report, too, but you (and some other guys) beat me to it. As always, Full Throttle, I fully agree with you, and I suggest everyone heed his excellent advice, especially insofar as safety in Rio is concerned. Excellent stuff.
I am back from Rio. The forum has been very helpful. However, once you are down there everything is so apparent and there are many fellows around to exchange experiences that it will be easy to find out what is going on where.
Well, Toto, one of the big benefits of this forum, if not to say the biggest of all, is that you can get incredibly comprehensive information on P4P in Rio and the not so obvious choices you have there, in addition to a lot of anecdotal and background info that will be very helpful to avoid common errors, pitfalls, setups, ripoffs, whatever not. And while you say that the forum has been very helpful to you, it just doesn't seem that you read it a whole lot, and if you did, you didn't follow the advice. Too bad, because I am sure that your whole experience would have been a whole lot more positive and much less costly for you.
I mean, you say "Things are easy to figure out once you are in Rio", more or less. Well, let's see, which places did you find? The most obvious ones: Meia Pataca, Help, and the café in front of it. You know, that's exactly what happened to me in 2002, the first time I went to Rio: I stumbled into MP literally by accident within half an hour of arriving in Rio. And of course, that's where I hung out the entire time I was there, without exploring anything else. And of course, I overpaid, fell for the usual scams, and then some. And while I still had a good time, certainly, just like you did, afterwards, I really wished I had investigated beforehand.
If you had read the board, you would have known that the Othon definitely is NOT companion-friendly (in my book, requiring you to pay R$ 100 (!) to bring a girl merits classification as not-GF). As a matter of fact, I am surprised you were able to bring in a girl at all, because the one thing I had always heard over the years I was going to Rio (2002 through 2006), they never allowed guests. You want to know why? Because they had several incidents with mongers and girls there, including one a few years back when a monger tossed a girl from the 10th floor. Might have been the 8th, I don't remember exactly. And by reading the board, you would have been aware of love motels in the area that would definitely have set you back less than R$ 100.
If you had read the board, you would have known that R$ 400 to R$ 500 for a Help girl is way beyond the going rate, and you probably wouldn't have let yourself get pressured into accepting such a deal. You would have had a good idea of the general looks of girls at Meia Pataca (obviously, that's the place you refer to as "Mataya Pata"), and you would have known that the food there is terribly overpriced and not all that good. You possibly even would have had some concerns about girls you meet via the Internet. And you might have considered the possibility that so-called regular girls turn out much more expensive that the pros in the end, without any guaranteed happy ending. By not reading the board, you hard to learn the hard and expensive way.
Anyhow, thanks for your report, and I am glad you were safe in Rio. Like FT, I also don't agree with your assessment of Rio being as safe as you portray it to be. Personally, while I don't think that for the average monger, Rio is as bad as most common press reports are happy to point out to no end (a la "Rio, the crime capital of the world"), I also don't think that it is as safe as a first uneventful visit would suggest (a la "nothing happened to me, so it must be perfectly safe"). Like always, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle, and IMHO, while we all can do tons of things to stay out of trouble personally in Rio (like not walking into favelas, taking cabs at night, not walking on the beach after dark, not getting smashed to the point of oblivion or, gasp, get involved in drugs, being careful when taking the girls home, among the most obvious ones), it is still a fact that mongering is a somewhat hazardous activity by its very nature, and tourists and mongers are targeted for crime in Copacabana, yes.
Finally, let me correct you on one safety-related thing: you said "The Othon Hotel has the advantage that you will not need to walk along the copacabana at night." As far as I know (please correct me if I am wrong), you enter the Othon from Av. Atlantica, so in that case, you have to walk along Av. Atlantica... not the safest proposition at night. Just in case you mean the Savoy Othon Travel (I don't think that you do, considering the R$ 380 you mentioned for a room there, but anyhow), you enter it on Av. da Nossa Senhora de Copacabana, and if you are hanging out in MP, Terraco Atlantica (the restaurant just outside of Help) or Help, like you did, well, you just have to walk down Rua Miguel Lemos (or possibly Rua Djalma Ulrich) to get to there... which, BTW, are two of the most notorious sites for tourist muggings at night in all of Copacabana. Quite possibly, with all the kids hanging out in these dark, poorly lit side streets in that specific area, walking them at night might be an open invitation to robbery. And honestly, Av. Atlantica is not a whole lot better in that area: the two times someone tried to rob me in all the time I spent in Rio happened right there. One of them at gunpoint, to be precise.
Still, thanks for the report, Toto. You know, I just hate to see newbies having a bad time in Rio, and I hope that the next time, you will do better. So for everyone else who doesn't know Rio too well: RTFF, please. After all, that's why we are sharing information here... to help out fellow mongers. And while I realize that one might not muster up all the time to read everything written here on this board, at least read 1) Bubba Guide, and 2) the Reports of Distinction. IMHO, all of the negative things that happened to Toto have been regurgitated on this board over and over again and could have been avoided relatively easily.
EA
El Austriaco
11-15-07, 21:44
Well put!
Not always a bad thing when a GDP thinks she's more than GFE. One of the girls I gave into on barebacking actually became my girlfriend. From then on, I got some of the best free sex of my life. (Along with the emotional roller coaster and constant Carioca drama. But hey, she was worth it.)
Yeah, it can be a thrill at times, the Brazilian soap-opera style drama. For me personally, though, it got old after about the first two times it happened to me. Just felt like constant reruns all the time, though the cast (i.e. the girls) were changing. After a while, even the prospect of allegedly "free" sex (is it ever really free?) wasn't worth the constant headaches for me any more.
As to the GFE turning into a "GF" experience, I wrote about it in an earlier post:
http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=463740&postcount=1050
And regarding Rio GDP girlfriends:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=487814#post487814
Cheers,
EA
Hello everybody,
i am happy that my report resulted in valuable responses here. I understand your points and would like to leave it like it is.
I think in combination with your comments it ads informations to the readers and first time travelers to Rio.
You guys, who are regulars in Rio have to consider, that there are also many first time visitors that might travel to Rio on another occasion (than mongering) and who will only be able to stop by at the Copacabana for 1-2 nights. This in mind there it might be hard to find the 100 R$ knock out pick up for the nigth and you might want to pay a little bit more to a girl that appears worse it. For two days, it does not really make a difference if you pay 100R$ more for the girl or hotel.
It might well be, that the girls are taking into account the 100$ nights with you guys, knowing that once in the while they will also have the one "stupid" weekend traveler that is willing to pay 400$ .... ever thought about this ? ;-)
After a while, even the prospect of allegedly "free" sex (is it ever really free?) wasn't worth the constant headaches for me any more.
Unfortunately, that describes just about every relationship I've been in. Brazilian girls, American girls -- all becomes the same after a while. But I gess the hardcore romantic in me refuses to abandon the idea of "perfect love," maybe even with a GDP. Of course, the great thing about Rio is if one girl becomes "untenable" (sounds so much nicer than "unbearable", doesn't it?), there's a ton of other girls just around the corner.
Stayed at the Rio Othon many times and I know they NEVER allow GDPs there, in fact they have two goons watching the elevator 24/7
Good report nonetheless!
PS to Toto: Don't pay too much attention to the posters on the board who want to tell you how to spend YOUR money!
PPS on safety: I have found the area in front of the Orthon on the Avenida side to be quite safe ~ however I certainly agree that the urchins loitering on Rua Miguel Lemos are a little scary sometimes. I also think the walk from Bobs to the Alcazar is perfectly safe, at least before 2 AM
Happy Mongering!
Veterano
Full Throttle
11-16-07, 02:39
For probably the 5th or 6th time, we ventured to the above-referenced park in Gavea. This is mainly a Sunday night phenomena, but we tried it on a Tuesday night once. Sunday really is the only day to go.
We arrived around 8:30pm to find a small, but festive crowd. At that time, the revelry was isolated to the sidewalks and cars continued on the street. The social area consists of a small street that bisects a relatively busy street running in front of the park. If you take it one direction, it goes by Garota da Gavea before requiring a turn towards Jesus or the horse track, as the lake would be straight ahead.
There are roughly three legitimate business where beer is sold to consume on the street. 22Oz. varieties are 2-3R, depending on the brand and, of course, they are iced cold. There are also three restaurants including Hipodromo, or something, which is where we set up camp.
This is the second time I've eaten there. They have a mixed churaso meal that we divided by three. It contained excellent sausage, a fairly nice piece of beef, grilled chicken, beans, rice and another thing or two. It was more than enough for us, and cost 51R total. Beers were around 2R. We sat outside to eat while the venue became populated around us for a couple of hours.
I can only say that, of all the places I've been in Rio, there is consistently more eye candy here. The girls are absolutely beautiful. And, it's my kind of party-- standing around, trying to look like you have some purpose for being there, and drinking beer.
Later, the gypsy beer salesmen show up, selling beers on the street for 2R. By 10:30PM, it took 5 minutes to navigate through the crowd to pointlessly move from one end to the other, which we did a number of times. According to Ibiza, the clientele come from a local private university, which explains the high-end looks. Competition for the girls was steep, however, as the guys were young and, it appeared, well versed in the gym. But, sometimes it is fun just to hang out in an environment like that even if getting laid is unlikely. Besides, Help is only a 12R ride away, and the party starts to slow between 11 and 12, which is the perfect time to arriive at the office.
It was a lot of fun, and something I'd recommend to try if you're in town on a Sunday.
FT
For probably the 5th or 6th time, we ventured to the above-referenced park in Gavea. This is mainly a Sunday night phenomena, but we tried it on a Tuesday night once. Sunday really is the only day to go.
Baixo Gávea is the name of the place.
Lots of gorgeous patricinhas from the nearby PUC (Pontifícia Universidade Católica do Rio de Janeiro). Definitely worth a visit.
Needs some hard work and tons of charm to get lucky picking up one of these angels.
Baixo Gavea is not only good on Sundays, but also on Mondays.
Party is not only outside. "00", rua Padre Leonel Franca, is very happening and definitely the best bar/restaurant in this area.
I am happy that my report resulted in valuable responses here. I understand your points and would like to leave it like it is.
Toto001, your post was honest, I think everyone can appreciate that. I would venture to guess all of us have paid too much when we see someone we want, I know I have and still do from time to time. It is easy to say pay no more than R$300 for a gal, but, for me, hard to stick to when I see someone who absolutely knocks me out.
Next time you are in Rio, look me up.
Day 1
Well, here we (ME) are again in Rio de Janeiro with more random thoughts. My comments are not necessarily in any particular order, just random thoughts that come to me.
Plane ride was great. Layover was just the right amount of time and I met a nice girl and a great Brazilian family on my flight from Atlanta to Rio. Upon arrival I followed Euro’s advice and hopped on the Real bus line. This was a real treat; the bus is similar to a charter bus in the US. It has plenty of room for luggage, plenty of available seats and is only R6 from the airport to Copacabana! R6! Are you kidding me? ! I am ashamed of myself for spending at least 10 times that amount for transportation my last two visits. Thanks Euro and others for this valuable advice.
After checking into the hotel and un-packing, I decide that it is good time to hit the streets of Rio! It’s time to go for a walk. I had three priorities 1. Check out the characters on the streets and see how safe it may or may not appear to be 2. Buy some Vitamin V and 3. Buy a few beverages from the market for the room. The streets were crowded, but appeared to be very safe. There were no homeless kids or extremely strange looking characters. I walked by four different *Pharmacia’s*. I did not want to enter because all the *Pharmacists* were women! I do want to try to have a little respect for the working women of Brasil and I want to minimize the embarrassment as much as possible! Not finding a 5th *Pharmacia*, I decide to double back and go to the first one that I passed. I’m going to describe what happened next in the following manner. I bought Vitamin V from the FINEST women I have ever laid eyes on; until I saw her co-worker. ;.) Every women working in that fucking pharmacy was FINE! She just smiled and took my money.
Well after buying a few drinks at the market, I am back at the room enjoying room service and a *homemade* drink! I am planning a bath (shower, shit and shave), exchange a few $ for Reals and then I will be heading to Monte Carlo for the evening. I do not have to high expectations for Monte Carlo, but as I am still tired, only sessioning once will be just fine with me.
MONTE CARLO (Entrance – R60, Cabine – R60, Girl (40min) – R130)
Just returned from Monte Carlo, and feeling a little tired. Either I am not as young as I used to be or I’m still a little jet lagged – hopefully the later! I usually have a really good time, this time it was a little different. I arrived and tried to get the entrance fee waived by saying I forgot to bring my R50 off coupon. This did not work (Unfortunately). I changed and walked straight to the bar and ordered water (no gas). While trying to cool off from the outside humidity a young Mariah Carey look a like, named Fabiola, came over a promptly sat on my lap. "Halo, tudo bem? " "Bom, muito brigado", I replied. And that was the end of our conversation, as that was all the Portuguese I knew and she did not speak a lick of English. NO PROBLEM! We sat down on the *leather* couch and communicated with our bodies. All though Fabiola was BE-U-tiful (about 5’8", died blond hair, and a tight body), there was something missing! She was not quite the GFE that I had come to expect. BUT, I just needed to "put the ball in play" as I had been waiting a year to bend this GDP over (well not this particular GDP, but you get the point! ). AND I can find the GFE I was longing for *in the second inning*. Fabiola, was OK. Like I said needed to *break out of a slump*. Looks – 9, Attitude – 9, Performance – 6/7. Great to look at, but probably would not do her again. A little bit disappointed in myself, as I did not follow ANY of the conversation pointers in Bubba’s Guide. But that shits hard to remember when your dick is hard and tearing a hole in the robe!
After a steam and shower, I returned to the Boite to have a Red Bull and Vodka – wanted to quickly re-energize! As I enjoyed my cocktail, I checked out the scene. By now the bar had filled up with guys and girls. So I settled into my position and began to hunt down my next prey! I was approached by a beautiful tight blond, with a great shape (petite frame with a bit of a disproportionately large ASS! ) Unfortunately, I do not recall this young ladies name. She was fun to chat with, but clearly was all about business and not really interested in warming up to each other (she was not pushy, but I just immediately noticed her business demeanor), so I bid her a good farewell. After a few more minutes, a caramel skinned GDP with long black hair and the same petite frame I described above came to visit me. We instantly connected and began to kiss, caress and get to know each other. I offered Anita a cocktail and she declined! WHAT? ! Like my grandmother taught me – *Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth! * (Don’t have time to explain what that means.) After properly interviewing Anita, we agreed to consummate our relationship. After a quick shower, we met in the cabine and began where we left off. Kissing and rubbing against each other. What a great little spinner? ! After she came from sitting on my face, I bent her over and commenced to try to make my dick come out through her belly button! Looks – 9, Attitude – 10, Performance – 10. Anita and I have plans for her to stay with me on Saturday night (after work, of course) and to enjoy each others company on Sunday. Hopefully I don’t meet my next wife before Saturday. .
We’ll see how tomorrow goes. I’d like to do some site seeing – Christ the Redeemer, Corcovado, etc. But it may rain, so that may not happen. I may also consider traveling to Centro – I passed through this area on the bus ride from the airport. I’m very interested in visiting this part of town. It seems to be where the real Brasileiros are; very metropolitan with shop, business, restaurants and I can visit 4x4, Cancun, or Terma 52. We’ll see. . . Goodnight!
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Day 2
Woke up this morning to see that it had been raining all night. It continued to rain all day. Under normal circumstances, this would suck big-time; but I spent the day catching up on some much needed sleep. I was still trying to catch up form the time change. After breakfast I came back to my room and got back in the bed as if I had never left! I awoke at about 3pm local time and began to make my plans for the evening. I decided to visit a Churrascaria that Bubba recommended in the guide – Carretao Churrascaria. I arrived at about 6:30pm, which turned out to be a great time as it was not too crowded. The food and the service were excellent. I even enjoyed a great Brazilian red wine, the name escapes me, but I believe it was equivalent to the house red. R52 for meal (with 3 sides and desert) with bottled water and one glass of red wine. Highly recommend this restaurant!
L’uomo (All previously published prices are accurate)
Another great thing about this restaurant is that it is on the same block as L’uomo – about 5 blocks away from the beach. I arrived after dinner and changed into a robe and shower shoes and headed to the boite. I grabbed a seat at the bar any ordered a cocktail and began to enjoy the music and atmosphere. There were about 15 ladies and about 8 men. Most of the ladies were just sitting around. It was like the calm before the storm. I have to agree with others that are fans of L’uomo. This Terma has by far the best music, atmosphere, diversity of ladies, coolest (tattooed) bartender, and great food. I am now a believer!
As I sat at the bar taking all this in, I am approached by a tight, long haired morena whose name I cannot remember. I am ABSOLUTELY terrible with names! We chatted and flirted for a while, but she was not the one I was looking for. I respectfully explained to her that I would like to sit for a bit and enjoy my cocktail. Though sad, she understood and bid farewell. Immediately upon her exit, I called over a petite little spinner with white skin, curly hair and a GREAT smile. Unfortunately, she did not speak English and my Portugese is elementary; but this did not deter us from forging a relationship that was built with kissing, hugging, caressing and staring into each others eyes. I offered her a cocktail and she ordered a shot of tequila! Normally, I would frown on this choice, but it seems that it would only jumpstart our session. I quickly sucked down my drink and gave her my key.
I want to take a minute and talk to Bubba Boy. I’m having a tough time following the suggested *interview guide* (the questions I am supposed to ask to ensure that my session is pleasurable). Like a small child, when I see something I like, I loose control and cannot think clearly! SO, again I confess, I did not ask this lady any of those GODDAMN questions. I NEED HELP! Maybe I need to right them down and just give them to the lady as soon as I introduce myself! It’s like buying a new car; I’m the guy that drives by a car dealership, stops, goes into the show room and says "I want THAT ONE! " and just buys the car without asking about the warranty!
But, as luck would have it, she provided all that I would have wanted. As she disrobed, I noticed her small breast with THE LONGEST nipples I have every seen in my life – easily almost an inch and a half long! She sat on the bed as I stood to receive an awe inspiring BBBJ. After a few minutes, I grab her, lie down, flip her around and positioned her on top of me for a proper DATY and more BBBJ. We then assumed the appropriate positions – Cowgirl, Mish, and doggie. Looks – 9 (if you like petite), Attitude – 10+, Performance – 10.
After a steam and shower, I head back to the Boite to rest, enjoy another Caipi and check out the rest of the girls. After about 30 – 40 minutes of sipping my drink to regain my energy, I begin to hunt my next victim. I again choose another petite spinner with flower tattoos on her left leg near her calf. She has shoulder length black hair, nice B-size tits and a tight bunda. I offer this description, because I can’t remember her fucking name! I know I have got to get better at this.
We met in the cabine and could not keep my hands off her! We continued kissing, caressing and groping. I was so excited, I them her down and began to take in a little DATY. That’s a damn shame, I’m paying her, yet I’m performing the first service act. After *dinner* I lay down to allow for reciprocation. BBBJ well performed. At this point, I needed to ferociously tear this pussy apart. I did not hold back – Mish and then Doggie to completion. Looks – 9+ (Again if you like petite), Attitude – 10+, Performance – 10).
Looks like more rain tomorrow. So that translates into sleep all day, take in dinner in the evening (maybe at a Kilo or The Office) and then I want to go to Solarium to check it out. I have never been there before, so I’ll keep my fingers crossed!
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Day 3
Another leisurely day; due to the rain. I slept for a good part of the day, and then began to put together my game plan for the evening. I decided to try a Kilo restaurant on Nosso Ave. Near/behind help. I was very surprised as I tend to be a VERY picky eater, but I found plenty to choose from and some dishes that I really liked. I enjoyed the chicken and beef, as well as, a penne pasta salad and of course the bananas! Another of my NEW favorite Brasilian dishes is vanilla ice cream. It has a very rich, distinct flavor that I truly enjoy.
Solarium (Entrance – R60, Cabine – R60, Girl (40min) – R130)
After dinner I caught a moving cab to Solarium, I guess it was "rush-hour" because the traffic sucked! Upon arrival I mentioned that I had never been there before and needed a run down of the pricing. I just wanted to confirm that inflation hadn’t set in yet! I proceeded to the changing area and swapped my jeans for a robe.
When I entered the Boite, I was pleasantly surprised! Not like Monte Carlo, the collective group was much prettier; some 10’s and a couple of 6’s. I walked to the bar, ordered a Caipi and proceed to find a seat to begin my hunt. After a few sips, I feel someone staring at me – her name was Kara. Fair skinned with jet black hair, distinct facial features with slim lines. When she sat next to me, I really appreciated her beauty. Her forehead, jaw line, flawless teeth and subtle make-up really turned me on. Having a PHAT ASS was also a nice addition to her resume! We chatted for a while – her English was better than my Portuguese. After finishing my Caipi, we vamos!
A funny thing happened when I enter the cabine, I immediately throw Kara on the "bed", spread her legs and DATY, like I hadn’t eaten in a month. After she came, it was now time to strap up and go to work. She tried to explain that her bright pink nipples were sensitive. I TRIED to honor her request that only light sucking and a few purposeful tongue "flicks" were all that was necessary to turn her on. Mish and then Doggie to completion. Kara’s enthusiasm and attitude were great. We caressed and kissed afterward – and discussed our future. Looks – 10 (facial features put her over the top), Attitude – 10, Performance – 10! Best "experience" thus far!
After a steam and shower, I return to the Boite for an agua no gas. I meet Kara at our previous meeting spot. We chat a little more and she explains that she going to take a lunch break. Wink, wink! I respond that that is a good idea as she needs to maintain her energy! Wink Wink! Within moments after she leaves for the "cafeteria", I spot a gorgeous little spinner that we’ll just call the "Texas Chick" or TC for short. She was sitting with her amigas; it did not appear as if she wanted to be there. I try to make eye contact, but there would be none of that she was involved in an "important conversation" with her friends. I decided to get another water from the bar. Upon my return, I noticed that her friends left and she was all alone. I respond like a crocodile hunting a baby deer that has strayed to far away from her mother. I hovered and went for a quick and fatal strike!
It turned out that TC was a little tired and unmotivated. She explained that most of the men there do not like fair skinned, blond garotas, but rather darker skinned garotas. Tis was the saddest story I ever heard! TC had petite frame, nice B-cup tits, nice tight ass, blond streaks, tanned white skin (great tan lines), freckles on her chest (just a few! ), with a tattoo on her back of a butterfly (another small butterfly tattoo right on the crack of her ass). At the end of our chat, I promise to show her how much I appreciated her beauty. As soon as the door closed in the cabin I commence to eating her pussy like I was at In-N-Out Burger (a California US burger chain) and then I tried to ram my dick into her large intestines! Of course, after I choked the shit out of her! The choking is a bit of an admission on my part. I tend to prefer women with long necks that I can put my hands around. OK, THERE IT IS. WHATEVER. SOME OF YOU ARE FUCKED UP TOO! Looks – 12+, Attitude – 10, Performance – 9 (enthusiastic, but a little disconnected).
You know the Taxi drivers are really not that bad in Rio! When they forget to turn on the meter or they drive for ten minutes then pull up to another taxi to ask how to get to the place he just told you he knew how to get too. These are all just honest mistakes! WHAT COMPLETE PIECES OF SHIT! "Obrigado sinhor – I forgot that meter was right there in front of my fucking face. " "Desculpe sinhor, I was just making sure Solarium is still in the same place it’s been in for the last 100 fucking years! " Anyhow, a great evening; I really enjoyed Solarium – will definitely return. I head back to the hotel bar to eat, enjoy a cigar and watch my fucking home burn down on CNN at the bar (I’m from California). I guess I chose a good time to be away from home! ). Finally they changed it to the World Series.
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Stayed at the Rio Othon many times and I know they NEVER allow GDPs there, in fact they have two goons watching the elevator 24/7/ My first time in Rio (Carnival 2003), I stayed in a place in Centro, Guanabara Palace. I had no idea about their garota policy until I got a wake-up call at 5am telling me "your guest has to leave now." What a way to shatter my post-coital bliss.
Hi Fellows,
Does anyone know if the Millenium Copa hotel is girl friendly?
Thanks for any input.
"flawless teeth"
Now this is a first for Brasil, I have often thought if one of us mongers was a dentist, the trades he could make.
I am sorry I meant Martinique Copa, not Millenium Copa.
Does anyone know if thier is a Wi-Fi HOT SPOT in Copacabana around ground Ho Zero?Follow this link:
http://www.travel-island.com/travel.wireless/brazil.html
Day in Rio: first mindblowing Terma experience with Fabiana.
This is the report of my last trip to Brasil, in April-May 2007. I was in Brasil for about 5 weeks. I spent only about 1 week in total in Rio. The rest of time, I was travelling around this beautiful country with my Brasilian friends. I also got the opportunity to visit a truly world class city where I truly fell in love with the city, Buenos Aires, Argentina. But this post will be mainly on my time spent in Rio de Janeiro. I also posted some reports of that trip in Brasilia and Curitiba in their respective threads. So, without any further due, let’s get going.
I arrived via my overnight direct flight at GRU. Is it me or all the bank machines in GRU simply suck as they did not accept any of my debit nor credit card. I was lucky I still had some Reais left from my last trip, enough to grab a bite at one of the restaurants inside the airports in SP while waiting for my early afternoon connecting flight to Rio. The short flight was uneventful. Once in GIG, I did the usual avoiding of the touts and skilfully dribbling past and around them with an agility that would make Ronaldinho Gaucho envious. :D
Went straight to the 3rd floor to the ATMs to get enough cash to get me through the first couple of days. From there, went to the departure level to catch an incoming cab as suggested in here by the experts. Too one and the least I can say is that it was one of the most entertaining cab rides of my trip. The driver was a true malandro in the best carioca form. He explained the carioca way of picking up girls and he even gave a practical demonstration while he stopped in a gas station on the way. While waiting in line for a pump to become available, the car beside us was a nice looking woman. He started talking to her in the most outrageous possible like “hey gostosa, vai dar pra mim?” The woman just laughed at him and closed her window and ignored him and I was rolling on the floor. Was a fun experience!
A few minutes later, just before sunset, finally arrived in the hotel in Ipanema. As soon as we stepped inside the hotel, at that moment, a power shortage that apparently hit the entire Ipanema and Copacabana section for a good 20-30 minutes. Panic almost took everybody, specially the girl at the reception who was on the phone with the owner of the hotel. She was all scared as without electricity, the hotel was very vulnerable to thieves and attacks from the nearby favela. She was almost crying on the phone, begging the owner to do something or to send some security. At that time, I was very tired, not having slept for more than 30 hours, didn’t know what to do, I even considered leaving to another hotel. At that time, my malandro cab driver suggested we go to a very good and not “so expensive hotel not far from here, in Copa”. I asked him which hotel and the reply was the Copacabana Palace which is only 1200 reais per night as per his words. On a side note, for those who have stayed at the Copacabana Palace, what is the going rate and is it really worth it? I might give it a try just for curiosity sake on a future trip…
Thankfully, the power resumed shortly and it was back to business as usual after that. My cab driver before leaving, and even before getting to the hotel, had tried to hook me with a nice morena, but apparently she was tired for tonight. Not that I would have taken her, but one never knows. He gave me his card for any other rides I might need. A cool guy, a real malandro who’ll try to milk as many Reais out of anyone he can, specially if one doesn’t speak Portuguese. Realizing that I was not a rookie and that I speak fluent Portuguese, he didn’t attempt any crazy stuff, but you could feel it that at the slightest occasion he would jump on the opportunity. So, guys, the biggest favour you guys can make yourselves is to learn as much Portuguese as possible. It’ll make a monumental difference in the quality of everything while there.
Once alone in my room at the same hotel I have been using every time in Rio, took a shower and a much needed nap to recharge the batteries for the events of the evening to unfold. A few hours later, went to my favorite restaurant in Copa, named “Deck”, on the beach right at the intersection of Siqueira Campos and Av. Atlantica. I love sitting there, sipping caipis and cold shoppes while enjoying the cool evening and ocean breeze. After a good meal, walked around found myself in front of a sign at the one of the intersections pointing towards a “casa de plazer, Monte Carlo”. Of course, I couldn’t resist the temptation and walked in.
At the reception, the lady explained how it works there, went inside and changed. My excitement was very high specially given that this was my very first experience in a Terma in Rio. As some of you may remember from my previous trip’s report, I didn’t have the time to hit the termas last time around. So, changed into the robe, then took a shower and walked inside the boite. As soon as I stepped into the boite, I thought I had died and gone to heaven. The feeling a man feels the first time and every time thereafter inside a Rio Terma is second to none. Truly felt like the proverbial kid in a candy store. AMAZING!
With my big dreamy eyes, I slowly and shyly started looking around to scope the area and walked towards the bar to get a caipi. I turned around and looked at the girls strutting their delicious bodies on the dance floor to the sensual rhythms of baile funk. None of the girls there were my type despite being beautiful. I like them small and slim with a nicely shaped bundinha. Not two seconds had passed that my eyes made contact with exactly the type I crave: short morena, tight body and a bunda to die for. Fabiana smiled right away and sexily walked towards me, greeted me with a warm hug, a couple of sweet kisses on the cheeks and a smile that would make melt the eternal ice of the north pole.
She led me towards the bench/seat and got to know each other, specially explore our respective bodies. She was high on the practical side, which was ideal for the circumstances. Before I realized it, her tongue was dancing samba, or was it forró with my tongue and her hand went under the robe in a bid to get aquainted with Mr. Pau.
She then started giving me a very sexy lap dance right there and we both started to dance a bit. It was getting very hot and I had to slow her down to prevent an eruption right there, right then. She passed with flying colors all the tests and questions I was throwing at her. This lasted for a good half an hour and I just couldn’t hold it no more, and we went to take things to the next level: getting a room.
Upstairs, she asked him which room I wanted, the cabine or the suite. She complained the cabine was small and chato, while the suite was very fun. After a quick glance at one of the cabines that she showed me, I wholeheartedly agreed with her and off she went to get changed and took my bracelet with her to record it on it. I waited for her in the corridor for a about 5 minutes, during which I met a nice Italian fellow waiting for his girl. He was a regular and I asked him what does he think about Fabiana, he gave me the triple thumbs up (his 2 hands and right foot all held up high, it was hilarious), you know how expressive the Italians are. J
Fabiana came back in a very sexy purple outfit and my jaws dropped there. I following her to the suite like a little puppy hypnotized by her mesmerizing allure. Once inside, things got even better, if that was even remotely possible. Gentlemen, inside I had the most mind-blowing sex experience of my life so far. We literally ripped each other’s clothings or whatever little we still had on. Straight off to the Jacuzzi where we spent a good 20 minutes there. Her buceta was like made of ambrosia, the divine nectar of the Greek Gods. Me laying down on my back and she seating on my face, was a sight to behold.
I spent a long time there just tasting her divine nectar, which I could not get enough for the life of me. After a little while, her body got tense and shook like crazy. She came very strongly and held me tight for a good minute, not moving anymore. I got a little bit worried, if she was ok, as if she had a seizure or something. Shortly after, she then asked me to sit down and she bent down on all fours inside the Jacuzzi and went onto give me
the most incredible blow job ever. Her mouth was like a love factory, just incredible. And how about the sight of her perfect body with her more than perfect bunda moving right and left? I couldn’t hold any longer and came very hard right inside her mouth. She tightened her mouth as I was exploding inside her mouth. My entire body and soul was shaking like rarely before. I thought I was having a seizure. Never a blow job and a release had felt that intense!
After having recuperated, we went onto the bed, where we lay for a few minutes, chatting. Before long, she was up at it again. She miraculously managed to make my soldier be operational again within 3-4 minutes. Did I say she’s a champion? Well, she’s truly naturally gifted at what she does! Once ready again, we went at it in several positions, mish, side, flat doggy but the most incredible was doggy with that divine body of her and that out of this world ass. Oh my god! Truly one of THE highlights of my trip!
After a few minutes of this, another eruption followed. Then again, some time spent chatting and cuddling and back again for round 3. This gal was truly unsatiable! A real tigress.
While chatting with her in between rounds, we talked about good beaches outside Rio to check, she suggested Paraty, a place I already had in mind to go and she suggested we should go together for a weekend. She gave me her number at the end of the session and I asked her to join me the following day for some doing together some touristy stuff and for some lunch. As luck would have it, I got stuck the following days with my friends in Rio and never got around to calling her and I had already plans with other friends in another city for which I had already bought the plane ticket and made the reservations. I was really tempted to cancel it all and spend the weekend with Fabiana…
All in all, this experience with Fabiana was incredible and that would be a total understatement. I know one should never get attached to these girls, and I had thought myself to be immune to that. But after having experienced Fabiana, I now fully understand the dangers that these girls can represent. And it was effectively for that reason that I decided not to see her again as she would have been dangerous as she was that damn good. Oh well, but what a truly unforgettable experience!
After the end of the session, she kissed me more and asked me if I would wait for her in the boite, I said I might but I was truly tired and craving a good night sleep after all that. I left the boite and called it a night. What I truly regret is for not having taken my camera with me. By the way, for those who have been recently or are currently in Rio, is Fabiana still at MC? I lost her number, if someone has it, can you pm it to me please?
Day 2 in Rio:
The next day, woke up late, did some shopping in Ipanema and after that, lunch at one of my fav places in Ipanema, O Sindaco do Shoppe. It’s a restaurant/por kilo place as well. Cool place. Highly recommended. After that, did the obligatory agua de coco in a beach kiosk in Ipanema with the famous Pedra dos dois Irmaos in front of me. As the sun was retiring, setting the stage for a truly spectacular sunset I realized how lucky and blessed we are, those of us who have been lucky to experience Rio, specially the sunset right in Posto 9. At that moment, I felt one of those truly moving feelings that makes one truly proud to be alive and wish that those close to us could also witness that scene.
In the evening, nothing to report, as I was to meet with a couple of friends for a nice churrasco at the Carretão in Copa. After the dinner, the 3 of us, walked leisurely the entire length of the Avenida Atlantica towards Helpie where we enjoyed a few shoppes and just witnessed the zoo in front of us. I went once inside Help, in my previous trip and it is not my cup of tea personally. Some may like it, others don’t. To each their own. That night, there was a very high police presene, not sure what warrant such a tight security. Not that I would complain about it. As I had to wake up early the following day to catch a flight, I called it a night, not without some small regret as I saw a girl at Help, the type that I like, innocent looking, very normally dressed with her school bag. Must have been a newbie. Oh well…
For the rest of my trip, in Brasilia, I did report my findings in the BSB thread and same for Curitiba. In Buenos Aires, I unfortunately couldn’t do much as I got suddenly very sick which prevented me from doing most things, let alone hobbying. Such a pity!:(
Before the end of my trip, I returned to Rio for a couple days, which will be the subject of my next report...;p)
Forgot to add that the bill at MC was 348 reais. By memory, I believe it was 60 reais entrada which included 2 local drinks, 240 for the girl for an hour and the rest for the hour suite (correct me if I'm wrong as I'm using just my memory from events of 6 months ago). A little on the expensive side, but worth every single penny.
Part II in Rio
After a month away from Rio, touring Brasil, Argentina and Paraguay, I simply couldn’t spend some time in Rio before returning home. It was quite difficult and emotionally hard to leave the friends and the normal girl, but life goes on, unfortunately or fortunately, depending on the angle one is looking at things. So, I returned to the Cidade Maravilhosa on a Tuesday at noon at GIG. Took a cab to my regular hotel in Ipanema. Was nicely greeted by the folks there. It’s always nice to be welcomed like that.
At night, took the metro for the first time, which I found very safe and user friendly, with the name of the stations announced both in Portuguese and English. A very nice little touch. I got off at Uruguaiana Station and walked straight into terma 502, a place I had heard lots of positive things from this board. Once inside, nothing like MC. First of, no robe, patrons are all in their civilian clothes. Wandered around for a little while, saw nothing that caught my fancy. Most girls were busy with other patrons.
The place was packed, took me 15 minutes before I could find an empty seat to sit. Beside me were 2 nice German fellows, one young and the other, older. The older one was a “local” as he lived in Rio and knew the scene quite well, showing around his friend. The music was very loud making it very hard to hold a conversation. After a little while, I saw a little blonde spinner but she was busy with an ugly fat girl. I tried to get her attention but he back was at all time towards me. Then, I saw another cute morena came and I immediately grabbed her. That’s where things started to get worse, mainly due to my own lack of judgement and for not having taking the time to follow the rules of successful mongering: getting a feel for her, asking her questions and get a feel for the vibe.
The vibe was non-existent, very business like. She just sat there, mute and looking straight away. Not interested the slightest in making any conversation. I guess the fact that there was nothing that really appealed to me and she somewhat did, I just rushed and took her without properly assessing her. So, after a couple of minutes of this masquerade, I agreed to take her to the room. Since the difference between the 30 minutes (or is it 40 minutes? ) and the hour was very minimal, I opted for the latter.
Inside the room, cold turned into ice. She wouldn’t kiss, would barely talk. In the shower, she would barely let me touch her. I know I should have walked out the room right there and ask for a refund, but I thought with the little head instead of the bigger one. Oh well.
After the shower, onto a very average BJ, which she rushed very hard to make me come asap. Being tired, it didn’t last long. After that, we laid on the bed, she finally started talking. I thought she was having a bad day, but no, wasn’t the case. We continued chatting and chatting and spoilt that I have been with brasileiras that they would re-initate round 2, I was waiting for her to start things again, but no, she just laid there, talking and talking. I started touching her and caressing her but she only said that she was very tired. Being the sensitive gentleman that I am, I respected her decision and for the rest of the time, we just chatted. So, in one hour, just one average BJ from a Brasilian terma. Needless to say, I settled my bill right away and left the place as after having taken a quick look inside, nothing worthwhile was inside, all I saw was more guys and more ugly fat girls. Left the place, pondered a few minutes what to do. I was really tempted to go to 4X4, but never having been there, I walked back to the metro very fast. I wouldn’t recommend walking at night in those small little streets of Centro, but I’m young, fit and look Brasilian. Just be careful. Then back to Copa via the metro. I walked from the Copa station all the way to Helpie. While passing in front of MC, I was really tempted to go in, but I didn’t have enough cash on me and as we all know, it’s an absolute no-no to go to the ATMs in Rio, so I just went for a drink in front of Help.
I went there mainly to get a shoppe and witness the zoo unfolding in front of me: the parading of the gdps all arriving looking their sexiest and slutiest; the lineup forming in front of the entrance, trying to beat the midnight call and the crazy scene all around in every table. Truly a fun spectacle. I was just enjoying the show when a beautiful brunette, dressed nothing like the rest of the girls there, came and sat alone in the table to my left. I glanced at her, smiled and she smiled back. I invited her to my table and she joined me. We had a nice chat but right away, I realized she was not Brasilian, but latina by her accent. She was from Peru and had been living in Rio for the past 3 years, “studying architecture at the University.”
She was about 1,60-65, beautiful face, a few extra pounds that gave her some nice curves, lips that just screamed blow job factory and a very nice overall personality. We chatted for a while, talking about Rio, her experiences and generally exchanging views and ideas. She asked me the type of girls I prefer, I told her, innocent looking, intelligent and fun and a tigress in bed. She told me “you’re young, good looking and speak Portuguese, why are you wasting your time there in front of Help, since I definitely won’t find that type of girl there.” I replied that I wasn’t looking for a girlfriend, just for some good time. She gave me a wicked grin with a “safado!” comment.
We talked some more, she told me about her various “boyfriends”, mostly Europeans, notably one who was deeply in love with her. She had spent 3 months with that guy living in a very luxurious penthouse in a 5 star hotel just beside Help (don’t remember the name of the hotel she said, which one could it be?) where the guy just paid for everything and spoilt her silly. I wouldn’t be surprised that this guy would also be wiring her $$$ each month. She told me about another guy, a British, who was coming back to Rio the following week and how he was calling her 10 times a day, making sure that she’d be ok and not whoring. Again, another poor soul being tricked by these award winning actresses/piranhas. Interestingly, while walking with her and just prior to getting into a cab to my hotel, her phone rang, she answered and it was the guy from Britain calling! In her best improvisation, she waking making yawning noises to the poor guy telling him that she was sleeping and had to wake up early the following day for an exam while she was caressing my dick over my pants!
I simply couldn’t help but to laugh, not sure if it was at the poor guy’s naiveté or at how good of an actress she was, but I soon stopped laughing as it dawned on me how good at manipulating these girls are and how difficult it can be for guys, the majority of these guys being I’m sure, very nice and sincere guys, but a little bit too naïve to get sucked in literally by these sharks. Guys, this can’t be stressed enough: don’t get involved with a garota de programma. Do it only at your own risks and perils! I think a big bold disclaimer should be introduced in the top of these forums and made mandatory for all to not only read but sign that they’ve read and understood it. Seems crazy but so true!
After some more talking, wanted to go clubbing. I asked her cool, let’s go to a nearby club. We walked in Avenida Atlantica for a few minutes, then made a left turn into one of those streets on Av. Atlantica whose name I don’t recall anymore. We walked some more, she took me in front of a club, which apparently was closed that night. She asked a few people in a nearby store what had happened to that place and they said that it’s closed on Tuesday nights. She then suggested another club in Barra, again can’t remember the name, but she was really starting to turn me on and I just wanted to have her sultry lips locked around my soldier. We agreed on 200 reais all night with everything included. We hopped onto a cab and off we went to my hotel in Ipanema. It was the first time I had taken a girl to my Ipanema hotel and they made her fill out the obligatory registration form.
As soon as we got into the elevator, she literally attacked me. I had another ferocious tigress on my hands. That’s exactly what I needed! Off to the shower after being undressed and there, the first thing she did was to brush her teeth, which I find very nice! If kissing her before was tasty, it became 10 times more delicious after that! Yummy!!!Oh and those lips, mamma mia!!! It’s almost as if they were made with the sole purpose of sucking dicks masterfully. In the shower, it was intense, very wild, very salvage type of action and I so much loved it. Her buceta was very tasty, very tight and extremely wet. She was very loud as well. Everything short of penetration happened there.
Off to the bed where a very wild 69 with me on top followed. It was unreal. Those lips, that mouth, a pure delight, so much that I couldn’t hold it any longer and came inside her mouth. She also, tightened her lips and locked my soldier inside her mouth until I was totally drenched. She didn’t swallow it, brushed her teeth again and came back. More chatting, cuddling and petting followed. Before long, she went at it again, I had the hardest time to get it going at this time, being tired, drunk and having already busted a nut earlier that evening, but the champion that she was, she managed to raise the little guy once more to the call of duty.
And the little guy, credit must be given when and where due, performed beautifully. After he was up, I wouldn’t come at all for a good hour which I certainly wasn’t complaining about. J Everything went, no holes spared. But funny thing was that each time I was trying to go for the ass, the little guy would fall asleep and got soft but once back inside the warm buceta, he would be back to life as if by magic. Don’t get me wrong, the ass feels great but nothing beats the warm and tight buceta of a sexy girl, specially a brasileiras or a latina. It took a long time to finish this time, we were both getting cramps and she took it again like a champ inside her mouth, and the sight of those amazing lips were worth the 200 reais just by themselves. After that, I was totally drenched, shaking and fell asleep almost immediately. Even tough we had agreed for TLN, I let her go after that as I was totally wasted by then. Before leaving she gave me her # and told me to come to her condo in Barra where we could tan together in her private pool and I could fuck her for as long as I wanted at no cost. Sweet I thought!J
But as fate would have it, I would get busy the whole day with touristy stuff.
Indeed, the following day, hit the usual touristy spots in Rio. In the evening, went with a tour to the Maracana catch the first leg of the ½ finals of the Copa do Brasil between Fluminense and Brasiliense. On the way there, in the van with us just beside me was a very hot blonde Colombian with her mother. She was in Rio for business. We started talking and hit it off very well, I showed her the videos I had taken while sambando at the Sambodromo earlier that afternoon. We had a few good laughs and I could feel it there was something interesting building up.
Once inside the stadium, we sat beside each other and had a good time together. Inside the van, it was dark and difficult to really assess her. But once inside the stadium, she was spectacular and exactly the way I like them: short, big nice and juicy bunda and to top things off, she had a very generous bust and a very beautiful face. Once she took off her jack, her boobs were pointing in all their glories through the thin white top she was wearing. It was quite difficult to keep looking at them and focusing on the game.
After the game, we talked again side by side outside the stadium and in the van on the way back to the hotel where the van would drop each person in front of their hotel.
In my mind, I was not sure what to do as to the way to spend my last night in Brasil: call the Peruana from the previous night and go clubbing then fucking the hell out of her or trying my luck with this Colombiana? Very tough decision. At the end, when it was her turn to get off in front of her hotel, she gave me a big hug and a kiss and left with her mother to their hotel. If I were staying a few more days in Rio, I am convinced that if I had asked the Colombiana to go for a drink and dancing, I would have scored with her not 100% but 200%, but what a sucker that time was so short…L At the end, I did none, given that I had not had any proper sleep for a week now and had to wake up early the following day to gather my things, do some final and last minute shopping and get to the airport, I decided it would be wiser to just call it a night. But believe me, inside my room, I was pacing like a lion: I wanted some company and I even considered going to MC, but it was already 1am. Oh well, what a sucker.
All in all, an amazing time, things like having 2 gorgeous girls and not knowing which one to go after is something that in most cases can only happen in Brasil and more particularly in Rio de Janeiro. God, how much I love Rio and Brasil!!! Needless to say I just can’t wait till get back to Brasil and Rio in particular. I’m counting the days.
I’d like to extend my warmest thanks, gratitude and appreciation to everyone who has contributed to this Brasil board, especially Bubba, El Austriaco, Exec Talent and everyone else, I apologize if I’m missing anyone. Your contribution is invaluable and worth its weight not in gold, but in diamond. If anyone of you are in Rio next time I’m around, a couple of drinks on me as a tiny and modest (yet highly due!) token of appreciation. :)
I hope you’ll enjoy these 2 reports as much as I have enjoyed typing them. Needless to say, that while typing them, memories came back like a flood and took me back re-living these moments very vividly and fondly. I already know that the theme and focus of my next trip will be Centro and the multitude of options there, at a fraction of the cost of those in the Zona Sul. If anyone has any questions about my trip, feel free and I’ll do my best to answer them and give back to the “community” some useful contribution.
P.S. Did I say how much I love Brasil and Rio?
P.S.S. When people ask me whether it’s true that Brasil is dangerous, I reply to them that it’s absolutely true in the sense the biggest danger in Brasil is that once you’ve been there, you’ll be hooked for life and you won’t be able to get enough of Brasil. And that you’ll be stepping into the plane to back home really against your will, almost being dragged there and feeling totally depressed during the flight and for the next little while once you’ve returned home. And that once home, the first thing you’ll be doing would be to be planning that next trip to Brasil. That’s how dangerous and addictive Brasil is. Go there at your own risks and peril…:)
part 1: trampoline girl
this is more of a reminiscence than a report. it's about my first trip to rio, and how it changed me forever. it was back in the golden days of 2003 when a dollar was worth 3. 5 reais.
until then, i essentially had three images of rio: carnival debauchery, a huge statue of christ, and pristine beaches whose names i didn't know. copacabana to me meant barry manilow. i knew the song "girl from ipanema, " but i didn't know it referred to rio.
my friend ian had paved the way, bombarding us with emails about the prostitutes he'd met abroad. he'd go to latin america every few months. then he'd come home and sink into a funk over his lack of success with american women. "they treat you like a king in rio, " he'd tell us. "of course they do, " we'd snicker. "you're paying them to. " we'd tell him that there's nothing wrong with enjoying himself on vacation, but he had to stop "living there" when he was home. he needed to push himself more to meet women in ny.
as if i were qualified to preach on the topic. i'd screwed up all my major relationships; now i was having a rough time even getting a date. dry spell or not, though, i liked going out, and after a few beers i enjoyed the challenge of approaching women. if you could compile my track record since i'd started going out in my late teens, the number of rejections would no doubt be staggering; still, i'd met most of the girls i'd dated—including the three i'd come closest to marrying—in nightclubs and bars. but now i was in my late 30s, and like ian, i was wondering what the hell i had to show for it.
ian would urge me to go with him to brazil. but no matter how lonely i felt, i couldn't see taking a 10-hour flight to purchase sex. i didn't even do that at home, unless you counted buying porn. i'd gone with a hooker once—a hand job by the west side highway a friend bought me for my eighteenth birthday. she had fingers like sandpaper, which was just as well, because aids was just getting underway in america, and the last thing i needed was to develop a taste for the ladies of the night. so to me, there were two types of prostitutes: disease-ridden, drug-addled streetwalkers who couldn't pay me to sleep with them, and gorgeous call girls beyond my bank account.
ian claimed that rio's garotas de programa occupied a magic middle ground: call-girl quality at streetwalker prices. i still wasn't sold. pursuing women was as much about validation as sex. what good would paying for it do? is that the only way i could get laid? if anything, it would make me feel more disgusted with myself.
"gfe. gfe, " was ian's mantra. "if she likes you, it's almost dating. she'll see you when she's not working. shit, she'll travel with you around the country if you want. "
"you still pay the girls for their time, right? "
"depends how much they like you. you take them out to eat, of course. and they love presents. clothes, toys for their kids, little knick-knacks. " ian would scour the cheap gift shops in manhattan's chinatown before a trip to rio and load up on junk for the garotas.
i was sure there was more than a bit of self-delusion in ian's glowing depiction. but i'd been thinking about going to new orleans for mardi gras, and ian's obsession with rio got me thinking about carnival. the catholic holiday right before lent, carnival comes from a latin phrase that essentially means "last chance for meat. " it's probably not the kind of flesh fest that the church had in mind.
i decided that carnival would be an opportunity to meet "normal" women—tourists or locals fired up by the anything-goes atmosphere.
i got a good deal at a hotel in centro. ian was already in town staying in an apartment in copacabana.
i phoned him after i checked in. not even a word from ian about "how was your flight? " just an immediate "we have to go to help tonight, " as if he'd been sitting by the phone for hours, obsessing over the opportunity of taking me to his favorite stomping ground.
"hooker heaven, right? " i asked.
"say garotas. it sounds better. "
"you don't understand, " i said. "it's my first night. i want to meet regular girls. "
"joe, everything's open all night. we'll go to help for a little while, then somewhere else. "
i took a bus to avenida atlantica and walked toward help's glowing sign. i was surprised at how comfortable the weather was, like ny in may. it was the height of brazilian summer, but without the brutal tropical humidity i'd expected.
the sidewalk in front of help was a thicket of street commerce: old women selling beers from styrofoam coolers; barefoot kids waving gum and cigarettes in my face or thrusting out their hands for money; teens with shoe-shine boxes. i'd been warned about the latter. i spotted ian and we got on a long line. many of the girls—in tight skirts, high heels, belly shirts—were dressed no more provocatively than girls in any large city out for a night of partying. some of the them were beautiful, but a greater number were just attractive—again, just as in any big club. i had yet to fall under rio's mythical spell.
"you sure they're prostitutes? " i asked ian.
"i told you, " he said. "the garotas look like college girls. "
"most of these girls are not garotas. they can't be. "
"ninety-nine percent. at least. i know, because i've been with lots of the girls here. "
as we headed to the bar, ian pointed to the love seats on the catwalk above. "that's where you get to test-drive the girls a bit. "
i had my first caipirinha. it tasted like crap, but it was strong enough to give me the quick buzz i wanted. now everyone became more alluring. as i watched the garotas gyrate to samba and other latin rhythms, i started to understand why brasileiras are widely considered the sexiest women on earth.
i often get an exaggerated sense of power when alcohol first hits me, and i got it in my head that i could score with these girls without "tainting" the achievement by paying them. prostitutes or not, they were still human and would be susceptible to the right bullshit.
not quite! i approached six or seven girls, none of whom would stop long enough for me to ask if she spoke english. getting rejected by any girl stings. but a prostitute? it's an exquisite form of devastation. eventually, i'd figure out that help's garotas have a sixth sense about men who don't intend to honor the rules. and the cardinal rule, of course, is no pay, no play.
i went back to ian by the bar. he was holding hands with a petite brunette. she was smiling at him, hardly noticing me. "this is diana, " ian said. "remember? i emailed you her photo. "
"we're going, " ian said, "are you okay? "
"where are we going? "
"no, i'm leaving with diana. is that okay? "
"yeah. when you coming back? "
ian chuckled. "not tonight. stay here as long as you want. you're in fucking paradise now. "
i still had doubts about that, but i kept them to myself.
"just make sure you take a cab to your hotel, " ian said. "don't take a bus this late. i'll call you tomorrow? "
"sure. " i was angry, but i wasn't going to make ian my babysitter.
i had enough of help, though. i left and wandered through terraco atlantico, the sidewalk café next door. it was teeming with garotas. but they were friendlier, or at least more aggressive, than the ones in help. "hey, baby, " a girl said as she grabbed my crotch. "to where you wanna go? " her friend also reached for my fly. it was one of the girls who'd blown me off in help. fuck you, i felt like saying. you had your chance.
i made my way towards girl sitting near the hedges. she had sandy hair and a black and pink silk blouse. she smiled: "american? "
i nodded. "new york. "
she introduced herself as antoinette and asked me to sit. i was amazed at how well antoinette spoke english. she seemed awfully poised for a working girl, and looked 32 or 33, older than most of the garotas i'd seen that night. maybe she was just in town for carnival, and i'd stumbled onto a chance for legitimate romance. in the hopes of preserving that chance, i resisted the urge to ask if she was "working. "
the more we spoke, the more turned on i got. she was from sao paulo, where she owned a beauty parlor and taught dancing. she had a three-year old daughter whom she couldn't wait to get back to. now and then, antoinette would sprinkle our conversation with portuguese to help me practice.
"e você? " she asked.
"wait. i know what that means—'and you'. "
"perfeito! "
a chunky man with his arms around a blonde and brunette waddled by on the sidewalk behind us. he barely came up to his dates' chins, and his toupee kept kicking up in the ocean wind. this didn't dampen the girls' apparent zeal for leaning over and kissing him on the mouth.
meanwhile, a young guy at the next table told his friends, "i did one of those girls last night. " his pals high-fived him. i started thinking that maybe "doing business" with the garotas wasn't so bad after all. everyone seemed into it, even these jock-types who i imagined had no problem getting laid back home.
now i felt more relaxed about being here. i hoped antoinette would make an encouraging gesture, like touching my knee or something. but she limited things to conversation. soon, though, she moved her chair closer ("is this okay? "), and brushed my hair back with her fingers. "i can see your eyes better now. "
"do you want to. um? " i asked.
"yes, joe? "
"um. go somewhere? "
she smiled. "go where? "
"i feel weird asking you, but to my hotel. "
"this is possible. "
i still wasn't sure what was going on. were we talking business, or was antoinette genuinely attracted to me?
"i need to ask you something first, and i hope you won't be offended, " i said.
"yes? " she had a knowing grin.
"it's just that, given where we are, with all the garotas and. "
she held her finger to my mouth.
"yes, joe. i come to rio to make program. "
"but you don't seem like the other girls here? "
"i only do this for carnival and the new year's. or when i have a client in rio. "
antoinette said that most jobs in brazil, even owning your own business, paid shit. she made more money in a few weeks as a prostitute than at her other jobs the rest of the year.
"i've never been with a garota, " i said. "do we talk money first? "
"if you want. or we can do that later. in the morning. "
"but what if i don't have enough? "
she played with my hair again. "you worry about everything, don't you? if i was only concerned about making the most money, i would not have relaxed here with you all this time. this is your primeira vez—'first time'—in rio. all you should think about is enjoying it. "
back at the hotel, it was impossible not to enjoy it. antoinette peeled off her blouse to reveal a flat tummy and small, beautifully shaped breasts. can breasts have personality? they seemed perky as hell when antoinette was bouncing on me. bouncing, like a kid on a trampoline, deliriously happy.
in the morning, she asked what i wanted to pay.
"is $60 good? " i meant it just as an opening bid. i was stunned that she accepted it without comment.
ian would tell me later that he was also surprised: "most of the girls at help want to bang out a deal as soon as they meet you. they ask for '200 american, ' which is insane, and they know it. then you laugh at them"—but warmly, as if you know they're joking—"and say, '200? i'll give you $40. '"
"for a whole night? shit! i paid too much. "
"no, 40 is low. remember, you're negotiating. usually, it'll end up somewhere between 60 and 100. but your girl didn't even try to bargain. she's probably counting on you for repeat business. as well as gifts, dinner. "
"she's well-worth it. she's incredible. "
"i told you. you've got the bug. "
ian was right. antoinette had ended my aversion to pay-for-play. the transaction hadn't made me feel at all like a loser. she had lifted the curtain on a sexual disney world. sure, i'd had to pay. but for one of the most thrilling encounters of my life. and there were countless attractions here yet to explore.
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Part 2: GDP Drama Queens
I was ready to explore the city's "termas"—hybrids of strip clubs, spas and *****houses that are as much an institution in Rio as the rodizio restaurants serving Brazilian barbecue.
Quatro Por Quatro, Rio's largest terma, was on a quiet side street just off one of the city's main commercial strips. Gringos loved the place; its location and afternoon opening time also made it a favorite among local businessmen out for lunchtime diversions. For a renowned pleasure palace, it had a distinctly unglamorous name: Quatro Por Quatro literally means "Four By Four," from its address, 44 Buenos Aires Street.
I went there my third day in Rio. I wanted to race in and dive into a pile of garotas, but I had to follow a protocol that's standard in many termas. First, I checked in at reception, where a pretty Asian explained in fluent English the price for one girl versus two, forty minutes versus an hour, and small rooms versus deluxe ones. "You decide later, after you picked a girl," she said. She handed me a key on a wristband and pointed me to a locker room. As I got closer, a vague scent I'd noticed upon entering the lobby—Lemon Pledge meets steambath—got stronger.
The locker attendant gave me mandatory gear: sandals and a white robe emblazoned with Quatro Por Quatro's logo. It's the closest thing to an official uniform that exists in the world of mongering.
After I changed, I headed for the brothel's little nightclub, where clients and garotas size each other up.
The room was packed with Brazilian eye candy in thongs and lingerie. A few were stripping on the small stage. There were some uncomfortable-looking men sitting on leather couches against mirrored walls. I was too self-conscious to begin flirting, so I ordered a beer. A tall girl pinched my ass and tried to make chit-chat, but I was still adjusting to this new terrain.
I bought another beer and planted myself at a table. A pair of blondes swooped down on me. Almost immediately, the talkative one asked if I wanted a threesome. This was always my fantasy. These two were moderately appealing; they even kissed briefly to tease me. But Antoinette, the girl I'd met outside Help, had spoiled me the way she had taken her time winning me over, slowly building my appetite. The two blondes, however, seemed like typical quick-buck artists. And not very artful at that. They showed little flair for seduction.
I excused myself to go to the bathroom. But I only made it a few steps before I was mesmerized by an olive-skinned girl swaying by the dance floor. Juliana had straight blonde hair—Quatro Por Quatro is a temple for blonde fetishists—that fell just below her shoulders. Even in heels, she didn't seem much taller than me—a bonus for an insecure short guy like me, especially when I'm in a strange environment.
Juliana looked worldly and innocent at the same time. A woman-child. But the more I studied her, the more provocative she seemed. She had on a bright red thong and a bikini that strained to rein in her breasts. She had a nice butterfly tattoo across her lower back. But a disturbing line of red dots went from her neck to a small sun above her breast. A skin condition? Something worse? (She'd later tell me the dots were a sun beam, but I wasn't entirely convinced. If she was telling the truth, the tattoo artist needed to have his hands broken so he could never repeat such an atrocity.)
When she noticed me staring at her, she locked eyes on mine, came over and stroked my cheek. "Swah-vay," she purred. Portuguese for "soft." Without another word, she threw her arms around me and kissed me. There's a scene in West Side Story where Tony and Maria see each other for the first time across the dance floor. Everything around them fades as they move toward each other, inexorably, like two sleepwalkers. My kiss with Juliana felt like this. This was no gradual seduction as it had been with Antoinette. As wonderful as that had been, Juliana had me trembling from the start.
She led me out the nightclub to a spiral staircase. As we climbed it to an empty lounge, the girl who'd proposed the threesome was coming down. "Fucking asshole," she screamed at me as she passed. Her vehemence was so over the top, I almost fell down the stairs laughing.
I told Juliana that I'd more-or-less rejected that girl for her. (There was some truth in it, because if I hadn't excused myself from the first girl, I might never have met Juliana.) Juliana smiled, pulled me onto a couch and kissed me again.
Every so often we'd try to overcome the language barrier and have a sustained conversation. I pieced together that she had a little boy and girl. Their father was out of the picture, and Juliana wasn't in a relationship. Good, I thought. I could be her boyfriend.
I wanted to learn more about her, but for now I wanted to keep kissing. The fact that we could get a room and fuck wasn't important. I would have been happy with her on that couch, just making out all night. She seemed to feel the same, making no attempt to sell me on a session. Strange, because terma girls only got paid when clients rented rooms. We must have been there at least two hours, when finally she said, "Let's go make-a love."
As we headed downstairs, we passed two attractive garotas. Without realizing it, I looked at them a little too long. Juliana glared at me. "You dog."
"I'm sorry," I said. "I want to be with you, not them."
"You dog. Get away from me."
She rushed off to the girls' dressing room. I followed as far as the door, and thought about going in. You'd expect a terma, with its volatile mix of hookers, horny men, and liquor, to have a phalanx of bouncers. The only security I'd seen was a man at the entrance. But I was sure that the place had heavy-duty stealth security, and if I tried to go in the dressing room, I'd end up as a midnight snack for piranhas in the Amazon River.
Yet I was oddly elated. Here was a prostitute I'd just met; but apparently I'd made her so jealous, she'd fled without making a cent. Maybe it was all an act, or maybe she had real feelings for me. I know I was smitten.
I needed to make that clear to her. I asked Christina the receptionist to translate to Portuguese, "You make my heart stop." She wrote it on a napkin and practiced with me.
I went to the nightclub and stood by the door, hoping that Juliana would show. I was rude to an especially clingy garota; how would Juliana react if she saw me talking to another girl? Yet always in the back of my mind, I realized how insane it was to be thinking like this, in a brothel of all places.
I studied the napkin in the dim light. Juliana walked in and pretended not to see me. I got her to acknowledge me by apologizing to her, then I slowly said "Você faz meu coração parar"—you make my heart stop.
"Huh?" she said, looking angrier than before.
Did I botch it? Did it come out sounding like an insult? I convinced her to come with me to reception so I could repeat it away from the noise, with Christina there for back-up.
This time Juliana nodded that she understood, although she didn't exactly melt in my arms. She still looked pissed, but now she took me back to the lounge. She sat with her arms folded and continued to glower.
"I like you so much," I said. "The last thing I wanted to do was upset you." I don't know how much of my English she understood, but I think my sincerity registered.
Juliana was clearly erratic (PMS?), but it made things more exciting. There was also the possibility that she was a lot shrewder than she seemed, and had manipulated me to the point where I was eagerly kissing her ass. Whatever her motives, she now softened; she let me kiss her, and things soared to the fever pitch of before.
We headed for the cabins. This time I fixed my eyes on her. Other girls popped in and out of view, but my eyes didn't budge.
As she got undressed, Juliana said she didn't want me to fuck her. Other men there fucked her. With me it'd be making love. I wondered how many other guys she'd said it to that day. But I didn't dwell on it. Enjoy the fantasy, I thought. The return flight to reality, to NY, is only days away.
Afterwards, we hung out in the lounge. Around closing time, she told me to meet her outside on the corner. First I had to get my clothes and pay the bill. "Rapido! Rapido!" she said. She had to get home and couldn't wait long. I wasn't sure why she wanted to meet outside, but I hauled ass to the lockers. I hustled out of Quatro Por Quatro, went to the corner, and waited. And waited. Another girl from the terma walked by; I asked if she'd seen Juliana. She said she'd already left. It couldn't be. I'd done everything Juliana said. Then I saw Christina leaving. She said Juliana had left right before I paid the bill.
I lingered a few moments, then I drifted back to my hotel. I'd violated the first rule of mongering: Keep your heart out of it. Now I was paying for it. A bus almost hit me as I crossed President Vargas Ave, lost in my thoughts.
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RE: Rio Joe's Report
That is what I am talking about
Gotta love it
Dec 22 thru jan 12
Forget about it dude, too many garotas to worry about that one particular piece of ass. Just keep in mind that come next segunda pela tarde, she will probably be taking cum shots in the face from another customer at 4 x 4.
Remember to always take a step back, and look at the big picture.
Thank you for the well written detailed report.
I definitely enjoyed reading them. I'm looking forward to the next one.
I've got the Rio bug for sure! Every time I leave, I'm making plans to return.
Guys, thanks for the kind feedback. Although I'm writing about events from almost 5 years ago, hopefully some of it--especially what I learned about the garota mentality--is still useful. Here's the rest.
Part 3: Hurricane Juliana
I returned to Quatro Por Quatro the next night. Christina the receptionist had news for me. "Juliana said she looked for you outside last night. She was going to give you her number. But she had to get the bus and couldn't wait. She was very sad that you weren't there. "
I went into the nightclub where I saw Juliana on a middle-aged man's lap, feeding him French fries. She looked at me sadly. She said something to the man, came over and kissed me on the cheek. "Come" she said. I followed her to reception, where she spoke quickly to Christina in Portuguese. She kissed me again and went back inside.
"Joe, she wants to be with you, but the man has already reserved a room," Christina said.
"No problem. I'll come back tomorrow."
"Can you wait for her? She'll be free after."
I had plans to meet Ian later for dinner in Copacabana, and I didn't want to hang around. "I have to go." I gave Christina my number for Juliana.
I joined Ian at Meia Pataca, another outdoor café on Avenida Atlantica, a block away from Help. Meia Pataca is where mongers trade war stories, and the first stop in many garotas' nightly ritual.
I ripped through four beers with my meal. Ian wouldn't have to hype me on Help tonight. I wanted to get my mind off Juliana, and the best way I could think of was to lose myself with other girls.
We'd just gotten on line for Help when I saw Antoinette on the avenue. "Ian, is it okay if I potentially blow you off?"
He gave me a thumbs-up.
I caught up with Antoinette on the corner. "Rescue me," I said.
"You are so cute. You've been drinking. Rescue from what?"
"Where are you going?" I asked.
She pointed at Bob's, the fast-food place across the street.
"I'll treat you," I said. "But then you have to bounce on me again."
"So you'll be my dessert. But I must warn you, I am very bouncy tonight."
"Then let's get the food to go."
Antoinette was a great tonic. She made no pretense of emotional involvement. She wasn't going to get into a relationship with anyone until she saved enough money to start her own dancing school. This didn't stop me from fishing for signs that she might have more than just a professional interest in me.
"I could really start to like you," I said.
She wagged her finger. "Joe, you are very sweet and I like your company. But keep your heart out of this. Is that alright?"
"That's fine. But I can still enjoy the fantasy, right? Believe it or not, I'm very romantic."
Around 3 AM, we were watching TV. I had such a strong rapport with her that I asked, a la "Pretty Woman", how much it would cost to "rent" her, around the clock, for the next four or five days.
"You really want to spend all that time with me? " She started tickling me. "You are crazy."
"Of course I am. So how much?"
"You tell me."
"500 American, for five whole days."
"$550, " she said, "for 4 days, 23 hours and 59 minutes." We laughed. We tried to seal the deal by having sex, but I wasn't recuperated from the last round.
"You know that Viagra is sold here in every drugstore," she said. "A doctor's permission isn't needed. "
"I didn't think I would be having that much sex here."
"Tomorrow we'll buy you some." She giggled. "And you can take it off my fee."
We planned to sleep late, then go sightseeing to Sugarloaf Mountain and the statue of Christ on Corcovado Mountain. I'm Jewish, but it still felt somewhat sacrilegious, the idea of going there with a prostitute.
But we were awakened early by a phone call. It was Juliana, saying something about coming to my hotel. Panicking, I kept saying that I didn't understand her. Antoinette asked what was happening. Juliana heard her: "Who is that?"
"It's the television," I said, as I gestured to Antoinette to shut up. Antoinette giggled to herself, but with exaggerated expressions, trying to make me laugh.
I asked Juliana to call back the hotel and ask for Orlando, a young front-desk employee I'd befriended, and give him the information. He'd translate for me. Orlando phoned soon after and said that Juliana was taking the day off and would be at the hotel at 11:30.
I told Antoinette. "Poor Joe, " she said. "All these women chasing you."
"I don't know what to do now. This girl makes me loco, but."
"You care about her, don't you? She's a garota, Joe. Do you know what you're doing?"
"Not a clue. Why would she come here? I didn't make any plans with her."
"She's not stupid. She sees how you feel about her, and she wants to take advantage of another nice American who can afford to stay in a nice hotel. "
"I'm not so sure." I told her about Juliana's tantrum at the terma.
"Well, maybe she's crazy. Like you. What do you want to do, then? She's coming here, right?" Antoinette tickled my stomach. "Maybe you can have both of us together."
Too bad Juliana seemed more likely to take a machete to my throat than to share me with Antoinette.
"I don't know what to do," I said. Truth is, as much as I liked Antoinette, Juliana was in my blood. "Would you be mad if I took you for breakfast, and then we get together some other time?"
"It's your money, baby. Forget breakfast, just give me my $550 and I'll leave you to your crazy garota."
"Antoinette, that price was for five days, not one night."
"Baby, we agreed. It's not my fault you changed your mind."
I was on the verge of an anxiety attack.
"Relax, Joe. Eu estou brincando com você—I am fucking with you."
"B*tch!" I tickled her arm.
After a quick breakfast in the hotel, I gave Antoinette $100 and thanked her for being so understanding. If I could have transplanted Antoinette's demeanor to Juliana, I would have had the perfect girl. Antoinette told me to keep her posted on my progress with Juliana. "It will be more entertaining than the telenovelas, " she said, referring to the soap operas that are a Latin American cultural obsession.
Not that I didn't have the "right" to be with another girl, but as soon as Antoinette left I scoured my room for tell-tale signs—condom wrappers, lipstick-stained cigarette butts. Anything that might set Juliana off. The jasmine scent from Antoinette's perfume seemed to be ingrained in the sheets, so I tracked down the maid and urged her to change them. She didn't understand me; she could only see that I was frantic. She seemed to think I was accusing her of something, and started crying. So I called Orlando. Once again, he came through, calming down the maid and clarifying my request for fresh linens.
A little after eleven, Orlando called to tell me that Juliana had just phoned; she'd be here in about forty minutes. I was chewing my nails like termites feasting on firewood. I only stopped when blood started dripping from my thumb. Every few minutes I'd look out the window for Juliana.
The phone rang; I was sure it was her calling to cancel. It was Orlando: "She's on her way upstairs, Mister Joe."
I waited in the doorway. The damn elevators sucked in that hotel. Finally, one stopped and she stepped out.
Juliana didn't smile or speak as she approached me. But at the doorway, she playfully pushed me into the room and hugged me.
Then she said she loved me. I said it back to her without hesitation. I don't know which thrilled me more, her saying it to me, or me saying it to her. I hadn't been able to say it to anyone with conviction in a long time. I hadn't been in love with my last girlfriend, Laura. But once a relationship, loveless or not, lingers beyond a certain point, you feel obligated to say it. I'd never said it to Laura first, because that would have been too dishonest. But when she'd say it, I felt that I had to respond in kind if only to let her save face.
With Juliana, though, there was truth in it. And it felt perfectly natural, exciting, to say it to her. I don't think either of us meant it unconditionally. She might have thought she loved me, in her impulsive way. And whatever I felt, I don't think it was the kind of love that forms a cornerstone for a life together. But as we held each other now, my hands pulsed—accompanied by bursts of percussion from musicians outside practicing for Carnival—and I couldn't steady my fingers during foreplay. It was an intoxicating start.
Intoxicating enough that I almost gave in to her when she swiped the condom I was about to put on and demanded: "No condom. Give me a baby."
I froze for a minute while my mind searched for the appropriate response. It was insane—at least from my perspective—her wanting to get pregnant from someone she'd known less than a week. But I didn't want to be that blunt. The best thing was to try to convince her, without offending her, that it wasn't a practical idea.
"Someday. Not now," I said.
"Please."
I tried to tell her about my financial problems, that I didn't want to father a child that I didn't think I could help raise. My mother had raised me alone, and I knew the difficulties she'd faced. I was also concerned about sexual diseases, but they were almost an afterthought.
"Please. Make a baby with me."
"We can't. Not yet."
"I don't like you," she said. She threw on her clothes and stormed out.
I wanted to run after her, but I was almost certain it wasn't necessary. Sure enough, Hurricane Juliana reversed course, knocking on my door a moment later. She greeted me with declarations of, "I love you, I love you. " We made love, then I lay back and tried to digest everything that had happened since I got to Rio. Juliana lounged forward on the bed, absorbed in soap operas and cartoons. Still, she wanted to screw at nearly every commercial break, and would get a little petulant whenever I'd point to my genitals and say, "Ainda dormindo"—"still sleeping. " I hadn't had a chance to take Antoinette's advice and buy "stud spinach" at the drugstore.
Later, as Juliana got ready to leave, I asked her what was an appropriate fee. Her response vanquished any doubts I still had about her interest in me. She refused to take money, not even cab fare. All she wanted was $15 to cover what she'd be docked for missing a day at the brothel.
My last day in Rio, she took me to an amusement park where we got caught in a storm. Juliana was euphoric, dragging me all over the park (past restaurants and souvenir shops that would have made perfect shelters) until we found the haunted house. It was a lame ride, but we were out of the rain; now Juliana was even more ecstatic, screaming like a kid and pulling me close whenever we bumped into a cheap plastic skeleton or a cardboard witch.
We wanted to spend the night together. First, we went to her house so she could change into dry clothes. When we got off the bus, we were ankle-deep in mud by a dirt road lined with shacks. Two small riderless horses passed us at a lazy clip, as if they wanted to make sure we noticed them. I started laughing. Why? Juliana asked. Apparently this was a common sight in her neighborhood. I told her I was more used to seeing stray dogs.
We trudged through the mud for about 10 minutes until we came to a grocery store that looked like a converted garage. I waited there while she went next door to her house. She returned with two surprises: her son and daughter. She had, of course, told me about them. But I didn't expect to meet them. Her kids were beautiful, and I started thinking anxiously how handsome their father must be. What the hell could Juliana possibly see in me? The girl, four, was shy and stayed close to Juliana. But the boy, a year younger, walked right up to me with a giant smile. I introduced myself in Portuguese. My Portuguese must have been improving, because he responded in kind, "Eu sou Marco"— I'm Marco.
Juliana had bad news, though. She couldn't go back with me to the hotel. It sounded like her mother wouldn't let her. Why, I wondered, would a 25-year-old with two kids need her mother's okay? The mother came in the store; Juliana, looking upset, introduced us. The woman seemed pleasant. But the inherent awkwardness of meeting the mother of someone you've paid for sex was made worse by the fact that unlike Juliana, who knew a little English—less than I'd thought, I was about to find out—the mother didn't know any. After a few minutes of us pretending to understand each other, the mother took my arm and gestured for me to go with her.
I was getting nervous. "What's going on?" I asked Juliana. All I could make out was that her mother was taking me back to my hotel.
"Why? " I asked. "To have sex with me?"
Juliana burst into laughter.
It took a long time for Juliana to explain to me what was happening. Her mother would have watched the kids, but she had plans to meet friends downtown, not far from my hotel. Since I didn't know the way back, she was going to take the bus with me and make sure I got off at the right stop.
Clearly, my Portuguese was still inadequate. Topping my to-do list for home: Take a damn Berlitz course!
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Hojeobrigado
11-19-07, 04:15
Sorry this is so delayed, I spent the entire week out of town on business, and am just now getting back to it. .
I woke up on a sunny Saturday morning, after a really fun, although celibate night which caused me to totally rethink (after all on my 4th trip to Brasil) the best approach to excellent fun while there. I decided to revisit this treat ‘em as you would a new girlfriend approach and see what would happen. This in spite of the fact that this was my last full day in Rio for a week and my little friend wanting to make sure I made the best of it!
I sat around the hotel until 11:00AM, actually partook in the free breakfast (OK--- far from great) and pondered my actions. At 11:00 AM I grabbed a cab, over to Rio Sul shopping to see if Vanessa was actually working at the Taco jeans store, and if she would pay any attention to me in the "real world".
As you have been there know, Rio Sul is HUGE, 4-5 levels, filled with smallish shops with no apparent rhyme or reason. Lucky for me, Taco is on the lower level and just inside the door the cab dropped me off at.
I strolled in the door, looking as best could like a gringo shopper, bound to find something for someone back home. Actually, those of you with a young woman at home might want to drop in, those super low, 1" zipper jeans that you know you spend much time looking at in Rio, are about 99% of the inventory in the Taco store!
As I browsed through the store, I Politely told all of the young, mostly hot clerks I was just looking. Sure as hell after 10 minutes Vanessa walked over to me, asked me if I needed help, so I turned her way and smiled. She was actually surprised to see me, but greeted me with a hug and a smile. I asker her what time she was off, she replied at 6:00 PM, so I asked her if she was interested in going out. . Dinner, dancing, whatever.
Vanessa actually had a surprised look on her face, she asked if I had anything in particular in mind, I said no, just wanted to spend the evening with her. She smiled, said she would love it and would call me at 6:00 PM to see if I was actually serious.
I walked out of the store, actually shopped for a awhile, picking up a few items for friends and relatives back home then hailed a cab back to the hotel. After stashing my stuff in my room, I decided it was only noon, that I was in Rio for only one real purpose and headed off to the beach.
As those of you who have kept up with my ramble know, it was a holiday weekend in Brasil, the termas’s were closed, I had already samples MP, so off to ho beach I went. It is actually not hard to avoid the touts etc. In front of the Othon Palace, Nao Obrigado is all you really need. I wandered around for ½ hour or so, just grazing as it were, when a nice, tight, very black garota appeared in front of me on a chair. I smiled, thinking this could be a nice diversion to the spinners I have been with so far, and waited for her response.
I was rewarded with a dazzling smile I response and a pat on her chair inviting me over. I indeed walked over to her sat down and asked her name. Olmedia (sp? ) was her response and in fact she was available today only (ha ha ha) for short term rental. She said she worked at MC usually, and was just out on the beach to enjoy the day. Eventually we got around to the interview process, she said she was completa, wanted R$250 for ST and was ready just at the moment.
It was easy to work her down to R$100, and by now she had made sure I had noticed the HUGE (by gringo standards) ass she was born with, made sure my hand had accidentally touched her small, but firm titties, so off we went to the hotel.
Oddly enough when we entered the Princess Copacabana, she greeted the day clerk with an "Oi" gave him a long, very wet kiss, and off we went. Much to my surprise, there was no added charge on my bill for her.
Once in the room, she looked through my stuff that was out (again a new, but repeated thing in Rio), saw my cigars, grabbed one and walked out to the deck to smoke it. She waited for me to come out to light it for her and rewarded my by taking off her top on the deck. Those of you who have stayed there will know it is kind of a courtyard, so there were about 50 rooms between the hotel and the apart next to it that could see her. No worries for me the show was just beginning. I stepped inside to grab a Habana for myself, but before I could bite it off and light it, she grabbed it, slid her bottom over and went Monica on it.
Sure enough once she was done, I noticed she had left about 2" of it dry, so I did the Bill, bit it off, lit it and smoked it. Once she saw me do this it seemed to be a signal to go to work, so she pulled my in the room and started kissing me and grabbing my crotch. Knowing this was just a one h our rental project, I was pleased and let her grope away. Soon enough, she pulled away, headed for the bathroom, and said strip. I did, tried to join her in the shower where I was told to get out and so I just waited for her to get clean.
When she was done she said in perfect English "take shower" so I did. When I walked out, she was not in the bedroom much to my surprise, so I walked into the other room looking for her. Much to my surprise, she was out on the deck, dripping wet (from the shower boys) and naked as hell. I walked out, touched her on the shoulder which caused her to spin around, grab my cock and drop to her knees.
She started sucking away, getting me hard, and doing a 5 on a 10 scale of blowing me. After about 5 minutes, she looked up said, go get condom, and released my dick from her mouth.
I walked over to the bedroom, and was again surprised to see her spread over, ass out on one of the chairs on the deck. I walked up to her, ripping the package open and was preparing to mount her, when she said "ass amigo". Being one to always try and make a woman happy, I steered my little friend when I noticed she had already lubed it up with some of that cream Brasileira’s use to numb their assholes, so I just shoved it in deep and as hard as I ever have. She pushed back and said Ai. So I started to fuck her as hard and deep as I ever have, intoxicated with the idea of ass fucking a garota in front of God and witnesses. She was bucking into me, doing a pretty good job of acting like she liked it, so in about 15 minutes of hard fucking I was done.
She knew I was about to cum, so she stood up to pull me out of her, turned around, pulled the condom off of me and started sucking me off. She took it all in her mouth, smiled and walked back in the room. As she was cleaning herself up, I asked, "why nao buceta", she just replied, by pulling a nasty red tampon out of her **** and smiling.
I wondered, wow, how fucking weird is this, but then remembered the old saying "Greek Week". Hmmmmm, there IS truth in these old sayings I guess, she asked for her money, I paid it and off she went. I just gave her the agreed amount, didn’t bother with usual cab fare etc. She seemed fine, no doubt waking back to the beach to find another gringo.
I laid down to take a nap, wondering what my "date" had in store for me.
DAY 3 PART 2 NEXT.
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Hojeobrigado
11-19-07, 04:20
I awoke from a very nice sleep to my cell phone ringing and vibrating all over the table. I answered, pretty groggily I must admit, to Vanessa wondering if I was actually serious about a real date? Sure I said, she replied, that was good, she had told her sister I would take them to the amusement park in Barra. I just groaned and said when? , she said they would be at the hotel in 30 minutes.
I grabbed a quick shower, shaved and headed down to the lobby in 15 minutes. I waited for a minute or 2, and was rewarded to see Vanessa and her sister, who I was introduced to as Anna. Anna turned out to be younger, 20 in her words, taller, and definitely NOT on the program. We grabbed a cab and took off for the park, over in Barra, not too far from the Sam’s Club. We actually had a great time, squeezing 3 people into the roller coaster designed for 2, riding the rides, drinking and acting like teenagers.
At about 9:00, Vanessa asked if I was hungry, I said I was, and she said OK, let’s go eat. We left the park, grabbed a cab and off we went to a destination I had no idea of as she spoke t the cab driver so fast I couldn’t keep up. When we arrived at the restaurant, it turned out to be one of those little nameless restaurants that are all over Brasil.
We entered, I noticed Vanessa asked for a bigger table, I was totally lost as t what was next. I noticed after a few minutes a older couple, maybe my age looking around the room. Anna jumped up, motioned them over to us, where I was introduced to Zen and Victoria, Anna and Vanessa’s parents. I was introduced as Tim the gringo, that Vanessa had taken under her wing to show me Rio.
Of course it was Saturday, so Feijoida was the fare of the day. As we ate and had a beer or 6, I learned that Zen was 52, had worked for 30 years at the Michelin tire factory in Rio, and that Victoria stayed at home. They were truly nice people, interested in the US and my life, and happy that I seemed a pretty decent person, as opposed I guess the monger they thought every gringo was. They obviously had no idea that I had spent part of the last 2 days fucking Vanessa’s brains out and was hoping to do so again tonight. For that matter I don’t think that Anna realized that Vanessa used her pussy to help pay the rent.
After a nice dinner, even better conversation, and quite a good amount of Skol, the parents said they need to go home, so we settled the bill and off we went. Vanessa asked if I had been serious about taking her dancing, I said yes, where would she like to go? She wondered if I had brought any clothed better than the shorts and polo’s she had seen me in so far, I replied I had, so she wondered if I would like to go to Nuth? I have been there many times, so said sure as long as it is the Leblon club, so off we all went to change into better attire. At the hotel the girls went through my stuff and decided I needed to wear a white button down shirt, dockers Khaki’s, Polo Ralph Lauren jacket and cowboy boots! I slipped into the bath to change and off to their apartment we went, so they could change. They would not let me go up to their appt. , so I spent a quiet 30 minutes waiting to see what I was going out with.
OMG!. What a surprise! Anna was covered completely, but jiggled nicely and looked like she was the one on the prowl not her sister, Vanessa, wow---- I really fucked up here by not bringing my camera, what a sight! , she was on the verge of showing everything, from her boobies, to her pussy, to her ass, but somehow it was all covered, she was a vision of smoking hot, come try me beauty.
Off to the club we went, funny when you show up looking like a gringo, with not one, but two hotties with you, you move to the very front of the line. We were in, in about 10 minutes, all of the little papers with your eventual bills in my pocket, let the dancing begin! We stayed until sometime after 4:00 AM, drinking dancing, flirting, having a great time. A point of advise, a good club in Rio is well worth the trip, there are more stunningly beautiful women than you can imagine. As an added bonus, every time Vanessa saw me sneak a look at one of them, she would see just how far down my throat she could get her tongue. I suspect this whole jealousy thing you can read about in Bubbas’ guide is true. . In fact on 3 occasions when Vanessa would go off to the ladies room without her, Anna, would make it perfectly clear she was available if I tired of her sister!
At about 4:30 I told the ladies I needed to go to the hotel, to get a few hours sleep as tomorrow (today) was going to be a long day for me. They agreed, and off we went. As we rode in the cab, there was a furious and sometimes heated conversation going on between Vanessa and Anna. I assumed Vanessa was making excuses for spending a few hours with me, so she could get some money, as it turned out I was completely wrong Anna wanted to join the fun and Vanessa wasn’t pleased by it!
When we arrived at the hotel Vanessa announced they would both like to come up for a nightcap, so I said fine and just assumed there would be no pussy this morning. We entered the hotel, the night clerk noticed that Vanessa was with me so waved us along, and up we went. I made a good stiff drink for both of the girls. Vanessa excused herself to the bathroom, which seemed to be Anna’s clue to attack me, she was kissing me all over, grabbing my crotch, putting my hand on her breasts, and grinding her pubic zone on my leg.
Vanessa came back in the room, and called her sister a ***** and drunk, then asked if she wanted to share her man! Anna said she already was, and pulled her dress up to grind my leg more vigorously!
The very next thing I know, we are on the bed a giant fur ball of hair, pussy, tits, dick and lips. The only 2 things I really remember is Anna wanted me to fuck her pussy sem camisinha and neither Vanessa or Anna ever tried getting into each other like you sometimes run into in the termas. For sure by 7:00AM, I had fucked both of them in the pussy, mouth, ass, and titties, and had been through 2 vitamin V’s and 14 condoms (nice US Trojan Maximum Pleasures). 14 is exactly the correct number as I had to pick them and their packages before the maid came.
The room smelled like pussy and shit, I felt like I had been run over by a truck and the girls were acting like they had just woke up.
I told Vanessa had had to leave for a week, but would talk to her everyday on my cell phone and would be back in a week. She said OK, but grabbed my Colorado Rockies baseball cap lying on the table. She said I could have it back if I came back. I gave them R$40 for the R$10 cab ride, but that was all of the cash I gave them. Now it is true, that through the afternoon evening and night I had blown through about R$600, but I think if you view it on a value basis, treat them like a girl friend not like a ***** and the value quotient goes way up, even measured by Brasilian standards.
Just a few hours of sleep guys and I am driving to Belo Horizonte for a few days of touring the next report will be in that part of the forum!
A few pics of Vanessa are attached here. .
Cheers,
Hoje
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Hojeobrigado,
This is a story right out of those penthouse forums of the late 80's. You couldn't make shit that good up if you tried. Reading you're posts the last couple days has me all juiced up for my return to paradise in 82 days... Keep up the good work...
RagingBeast
11-20-07, 18:38
Hi all,
This goes out to all the veteran mongers.
Please help I am pretty well travelled but I am leaving sex prison soon for fun and here is my delima.
I have these choices Brazil, Columbia, Peru and Costa Rica for 7-10 days.
Here is what I am looking for as far as what I like when I travel:
1) Beautiful women both pro and non-pro.
2) Beautiful beaches and a good and atleast somewhat safe party scene.
3) Universities cloose by--love the college girls :)
I have been to Ibiza Spain twice very fun but very expensive, Buenos Aires alot of fun great prices but no good beaches at all.
So where would you go for 7-10 days with the above outlined goals?
Thanks in advance for your valued input.
I have these choices Brazil, Columbia, Peru and Costa Rica for 7-10 days.
Here is what I am looking for as far as what I like when I travel:
1) Beautiful women both pro and non-pro.
2) Beautiful beaches and a good and atleast somewhat safe party scene.
3) Universities cloose by--love the college girls :)
..So where would you go for 7-10 days with the above outlined goals?
I would say Brazil or Colombia.
Being curious, why do you want universities close by? You're going to hang outside the universities, hoping to get a date and getting laid in your 7 days holiday?
Here is what I am looking for as far as what I like when I travel:
3) Universities cloose by--love the college girls :)
They will be closed soon. Summer holidays down here.
You've better look for them at beach resorts.
Spinnerman
11-21-07, 11:26
Follow this link:
http://www.travel-island.com/travel.wireless/brazil.htmlOne suggestion. Be VERY careful carrying your laptop around , looking for Wifi spots. Never carry it in your arms, always hidden in a bag of some kind.
Street urchins abound , and two will hit you , grab the puter and run off before you know it, one will block for the other. Same goes for mobiles.
Hasn't happened to me but I've seen it happen.
Exec Talent
11-23-07, 18:13
I meet a lot of guys in Rio and many tell me they read the forums. Here is my advice when visiting Centaurus.
First they will try to get you to pay upfront. For tourists the charge is R$330, for locals it is R$310. However, you do not have to pay upfront. Just say that you are not sure you want a girl and will only pay the entrance. For tourists, again that is R$80. Should you take a girl however, they will want payment at that time. I personally do not pay anything upfront and just like at other termases, I pay everything when I leave. They do speak English at the reception so you do not need to have a guide or a translator.
Once you enter, avoid at all costs the girls who want to help you with your robe. The dressing room ladies are cool, but otherwise, I think you can figure out how to put on a robe.
Be prepared to spend at least an hour checking out all the girls. You will be pressured like you would never believe. I enter the bar, make a quick tour, get a drink at the bar then head to the relax room. I smile but say nothing to the girls in the bar. Trust me, most of them will eventually show up in the relax room where you can get a better look at them, actually talk a little bit and size them up. Again, take your time. There are a lot of good looking girls (in my opinion by far the best looking in Rio), no need to be in a rush since you will certainly find one of five or six who you will like.
These girls are under a lot of pressure from management to close the deal with you. When they see that you are not one to be pressured, they back off since they realize that tactic will not work and probably will have the opposite effect.
You can have a great time at Centaurus. I love the live music they have after 10:00 PM and of course the girls. Just be a smart consumer when you go and remember you are in charge of your experience.
Stay away from Gabriella at 4x4. She is one with a nice big rack which is very tempting. But the session I had with her was the dullest Terma session I have ever had. She kept saying no to everything I did (spanking her butt when we were doing doggy, putting a finger in her ass - thats the first time a brasiliera has done that to me and she had even agreed to anal, putting a love-bite on her back, cuddling with me after we were done).
After I was done with this session, I realized something. In the last 5 times I have been there, I have not had one good session. In fact, I have never had an outstanding session at 4x4. Yesterday, I sat down for drinks with 4 girls and they didn´t want any foreplay in the boate. Tried kissing them, and I would get is a peck on the cheek. I am done with 4x4.
...You can have a great time at Centaurus. I love the live music they have after 10:00 PM and of course the girls. Just be a smart consumer when you go and remember you are in charge of your experience.
Ditto. I think the same motto would suit well the Rio experience, even Brazil in general. I hate people who complain all the time or who ask too many questions. That's why I usually travel alone. I think the Cariocas feel the same way too. They can sense if a tourist is insecure or uncomfortable, and that applies to Centaurus as well as the beach vendors, a suco place around the corner or even Copacabana Palace. I had my own share of payment confusion entering Centaurus. But it turned out pretty fun to deal with + I didn't have to pay upfront next time I visited. You will get ripped off if you actually ask for it (entrance or exit) and not everybody deserves this. I have seen many who really deserved worse in world standards though.
I think I'm having the usual PRD (Post Rio Depression). It's been 2 weeks and I can still feel it in my blood. There's a song I'm listening to right at this moment, by Diana Krall. Sorry if the lyrics has been posted before but it explains my feelings about Rio pretty well...
Be safe,
Andre
Down in Brazil
It takes a day to walk a mile
Time just stand still
And when the people you meet look at you they smile
They still believe in style
They serve you with their sambas 'til
You really know you're down in ol' Brazil
You can tell you're down in ol' Brazil
Down in Brazil
They've never heard of win or lose
If you can't feel
Then all those cafe ole girls in high heel shoes
will really cure your blues
It seems they all just aim to please
Those women sway like wind in my banana trees
Then you know you're down in ol' Brazil
Down in Brazil
They know a million ways to play
You start to feel
And when you're happy
It's the same as when you pray
You'd think you get away
Then you know you never will
Now when you've been down in ol' Brazil
Now when you are down in ol' Brazil
Down in ol' Brazil
Down in ol' Brazil...
Why do you guys still go to Centaurus. I haven't been there in my last 3 trips. I boycotted that place and I meant it. I just replaced it with terma 65. Why would you go to a place that tries to rip you off from the minute you walk in. They tell the girls not to spend to much time with the guy. Mgmt wants them to close the deal or move on to the next guy. And besides, its 330 reals if you take a girl. Thats 200 us. I'll pass. You guys need to be strong and avoid at all costs.
Exec Talent
11-26-07, 01:57
Why do you guys still go to Centaurus.
I go for the two reasons I mentioned - the live music and the largest number of good looking girls anywhere. I pay R$80 when I leave plus any drinks if I do not see a girl. Often, if I see a girl I like I just get a number and get together later. At the other major termases, I would pay R$60. Not much difference.
Do I like the management, the aggressive girls, everyone almost demanding a tip and higher prices. Of course not. However, because of what I do like, I have learned to manage the experience. Last time there I was with a girl on her first night ever working. Our time together was great and I got her phone number. To me, it was well worth it.
Why do you guys still go to Centaurus. I haven't been there in my last 3 trips. I boycotted that place and I meant it. I just replaced it with terma 65. Why would you go to a place that tries to rip you off from the minute you walk in. They tell the girls not to spend to much time with the guy. Mgmt wants them to close the deal or move on to the next guy. And besides, its 330 reals if you take a girl. Thats 200 us. I'll pass. You guys need to be strong and avoid at all costs.
I would never tell another person how to spend their own hard earned money. Everything you say about Centaurus may be true, but it's a unique experience for each us. From time to time, I'm happy about trying to pull something out of the mall, termas, MP, Help, and of course VM. It's all in good clean, safe fun. Don't sweat the small stuff.......
ryjer
stayed at the hotel lancaster, right next to the balcony bar on av atlantico. very nice, but not girl friendly $80 us a night shared with a buddy saved us big when it came to mongering. went to hotel lido several times for r40 for my take out sessions from the street/beer bars. very nice, friendly, clean, safe rooms. it is all business and you must keep that in mind or get fucked up emotionally and be a zombie prozac dick head like we have back in usa. too many of them. they need the termasatatat! next time i will stay at a girl friendly place two germans told me about. right behind the balcony. for around r160/night. i forgot name at present, but have their business card. will let you know it later.
terma touring (we did 4 of them). our first one was luomo which was good, but expensive due to my buying drinks for everyone. cost me damn near 300. had a nice blonde who was eager to please, but had cigie breath. i gave her a good pussy licking and then she sucked me bear back. all of them did! good idea to bring breath mints in and give to them if you lick suck faceand tongues before session. we went on sat night and they had excellent food buffet out. lots of fellow americans there. i drank too much raising the total cost. very nice place and operation. good selection.
solarium with coupon saved us r60 each and was excellent. my dark skinned, brown hair stunner demanded anal from me which really turned me on. it was 40 minutes of pure heaven. licked her butt hole before i entered her and she moaned for the man meat. got outta there for under 200. this time being she spoke some english i asked for some things before making my selection. i really wanted anal and she had to goods, i mean butt hole for my larger than average dick. she took it well. i suggest you bring your own condoms and ky lubrication to all the termas. i keep it in a small plastic bag and retrieve it before going on my session. you can also grab your camera. same thing with monte carlo the next day. used coupon and had a good time. my blonde, young cutie had glasses on which was a real turn on. i licked her pussy and eat her ass before cumming all over her face. she asked for a burger and fries after the session which cost me an additional r20 upon leaving. be careful when the girls ask for something. it may be champagne and caviar?
4 x 4 (day 3) was amazing! got there at 3:30pm and it was crowded already. get there at 3 and make your decision by 5 pm to save entry fee. we did and had a great time. lot's of blondes eager to suck and fuck your brains out. went with a stunner who while leading me up a spiral staircase had such a beautiful ass that i almost shot my wadd before getting to the cabine#atatatat! very crowded. could not move around in boite and too smoky. i will of course return, but will be first on line this time. got out of there for 170, had a few drinks. about 50 girls, but i heard up to 100 as the night gets on.
the street. balcony bar very good to us if you like hard working black girls. went with 3 there who did a good job for 100/hour plus the 40 motel plus some drinks. watch out for the ones who stand up and "cruise" around the tables hunting for drunk mongerers. they are drug addicts and theives.
the beer places around help were good too. lots of mongering going on at sun down. met a nice dark skinned one outside of mia p. who would not budge under 200, gave it to her and glad i did. she was great. sucked and licked every part of my dick and balls. i licked her ass as she talked in portuguese in the shower. we fucked as she dug her nails into my back which i had red rep001ch marks proudly displayed all over me. it was an incrediable experience. i introduced her to my friend who is a dentist and he hired her for 2 days/evenings and almost fell in love or long-term lust? he loved her as i did. no pics allowed from any of the girls this trip. but i will be back next year. fortaleza in the north (report on that coming up) to warm up, rio for serious fucking, sucking, and the falls near argentina to wonder how good it feels to be alive#atatatat! i did vist florinopolis too, but nothing compared to rio.
thanks to my 2 german mongerers from frankfurt who gave us valuable advice upon our first day in rio and our first beer at the balcony bar. they saved us alot of money. we all met at 4x4 that day and all of had a great time laughing, playing, mongering, etc. it felt like that board room for mongering incorporated. just to damn crowded!
did not make it inside help. too busy! did not make it to vm. why go for sleazy, when for a few bucks more there are much better quality right outside the hotel. ass eating quality! i doubt you would get that at a cheap fuck place like vm. but, i would still like to try it next visit.
definately will return to all the termas i visited. missed centaurus, heard it was good, but expensive. i will drink less and hang out more. we went alittle fast, maybe being nervous, etc. the trick is to relax and enjoy yourself. but seeing all that erotic beauty in front of you knowing you can fuck anyone you want there makes this horny new yorker want to seize the moment and stay competitive. i did not want anybody else to have her, etc. i was a machine. having 13 different woman in 16 days throughout my 3 city tour. i did not need viagra and being in the medical field it is not a good idea anyhow. at 44 y/o i can still blow up to 2 loads a day, but one is the norm for me. good sleep, and a healthy diet. and of course good ass is the key ingredient. i feel the need to please my partner more, rather than just banging out a load taking care of me as i did in my 20's. it is much better sex.
i spent a total of r4000 for the whole brazil experience. all hotels were on a credit card. 5 nights was not enough. i'm back on long island and feeling the let down of being away from sodom, but i know it is just an 11 hour plane ride away!
we started in fortaleza, then flew tam to rio, and then florinopolis and back to sao paulo. new york.
mongerers taking care of mongerersatatatat!
cenoteguy.
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Day 1 OF 10 IN PARIDISE
Day one after arriving 1 day late due to airline mechanical difficulties on my connecting flight, I arrive tired due to overnight. First order of business is to change money so I could give the driver his fare 50R to Copacabana. Traffic was light due to it being a Sunday morning.
My apartment cost $60 per day, which comes with a kitchen living room and bath. My apartment manager had in the refridge 2 waters and 1 big bottle of coke and other groceries that I use for cooking. After getting into my apartment, getting some rest, and taking a shower. I called my non pro friend (which I will hook up with later in the trip) to tell her that I am here and I will come by and see her.
After visiting with her and letting her know that I was going to be tired and would go out with her later. I thought it would be time to either call an escort or call over some company that I have meet before but not taken home. This being my 3rd trip since March of this year, my little black book has quite a few numbers.
I called Julianna around 3pm and asked if she wanted to come over for a few hours. She stated that she could once she got her baby sitter to come over early and would be there by 5pm. With that in mind I figured I needed to get a bite to eat and drink (acai) for some energy, so I go down to Big Nectar and get a sandwich for 2R and stop by Succo Slice for my acai.
At 5pm my phone rings and Julianna is downstairs in the cab (10R cost for cab she paid part of the cab) waiting for 2 things, my umbrella due to the rain and cab fare. Once we were up to the apartment it was like she wanted to attack me. I had to slow her down so I could get pictures and examine her large breast. I am an ass man but had to adorn her breast with a pearl necklace during the course of our 4 hours of catching up. Her bare back blow job skills are incredible. After round 1 and a little rest she wanted more. She told me she was going to make sure I was not going to see any other women tonight. (She must have thought I was a rookie). After 4 hours of nonstop sex and a back massage I told her that I was going to meet friends for a late dinner and that I would call her before I leave. I asked Julianna how many times did she climax and she said 5 times.
The total cost that I gave her was 150R plus 20R total for the taxi back home.
After walking Julianna out and going back upstairs to shower I decided I needed to go to Mia Pataca to change some money and get a Johnny Walker Black label. The rate that was given was 1. 85R per each US dollar. I knew the crowd would be down at 930 10pm right before they closed. A former GDP girlfriend’s friend saw me sitting there having a drink and asked if I wanted company. I said that is ok. Her name is Deysece and she is around 23 years old mix of Asian and Brazilian.
After finishing my drink and snack I decided to go home and asked if Deysece wanted to join me for a while. As we were walking home she stated that she was very horny and had not had good sex in 4 days. I told her I was tired from the flight and I might need my sleep and she can come over for a few hours and go home. She said that was ok and no problem. She told me her best friend would be mad that I am here and have not called her to let her know I am in town. (GDP’s are possessive)
Once in the apartment she went and showered and proceeded to one of the best bare back blow jobs I had in a while, which lasted for 15 min or longer. After which I dined at the Y until she climaxed. Then it was time for the main course, which we proceeded to missionary, reverse cowgirl, doggie, and ended with anal. At around midnight she stated that she was going to go to her apartment and come back and let me sleep. So she borrowed my house slippers and umbrella (raining again) and left. Around 200 are I awoke to the door bell ringing, which was fine I needed some more action. Time for round 2 which was a quick blowjob and more back door action. This time I entered in reverse cowgirl and finished in doggie. By this time I was ready for some sleep.
After sleeping most of the morning I get up and fix breakfast and drink an acai with Deysece still asleep. Most GDP’s like to sleep all day and party all night. I figured one way to wake up a sleeping beauty is with Sir James poking her in the face.
Once she awoke she gave an even better sloppy bare back blow job to completion. Once she was finished with the blowjob, I tried as she said to hurt her pussy so she would not want to work. I asked was she still horny and she said she was satisfied. I also asked how may times did she climax and she stated 8 times for the hole evening. After all that much fun I needed to rest so we slept until around 4 pm.
We awoke from our rest to my phone was ringing from my non pro calling to see if I wanted to meet for dinner after she was done for work. I said I could meet her around 7pm.
Day 2 coming
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DAY 2 CONTINUED
After sending Deysece on her way, which amazingly she asked for no money due to me paying a drink bill she had a Help that I paid on my last visit (150R) but I still gave her 50R so she would come back whenever I called.
I decided that since I did not have to meet my friend until 7 pm I would stop and get a beer in the neighborhood bars. As I am there to get a beer I run into a friend of mine (T) and I told him I was going to run down to one of the apartments with girls.
Bld 583 apartment 204 which is on N S Copacabana Ave just past the HSBC.
We get upstairs and push the button to the glass door and am greeted by Brena ( call her B#1) and she introduces me to the 8 girls working. I had been there in July and there were no girls other than the owner and manager that were the same. Of the 8 girls 4 were 8-9’s and the rest were 5 and 6’s and one being a 4. We order up some skols and sit back and listen to the funk music that was playing. I decided after a few drinks to take Tatia a shot girl with black hair weighing no more that 100lbs and offering completa and pictures.
Once we get to the room which was small. She went to go get a condom and told me to get comfortable. When she returned we decided to get the pictures done first. I thought she would not stop wanting to take pictures. She proceeded to give a bareback blowjob and wanted me to cum in her mouth, which I wanted to save energy to pound that small little frame of hers. After 15 min of going back between doggie and cowgirl I decided I needed to finish with anal. It was one of the tightest asses that I have entered. Too bad my 30 min session was up, so I asked if she could come over later and she gave me her number and agreed to come over for all night for 100R if I called. After the cold shower I went out and my buddy had already finished with his girl so we decided lets go ahead and pay our bills and leave. I did see 2 other girls that I wanted one named Bea. ( 18 years old slim, with long legs) I will have to come back for her.
Needless to say I was late for my dinner and did not get to spend a lot of time with my non pro friend. She had to work very early and was not going to stay over. I offered her cab money and she would not take it. So after a nice time with her and being that the night was still young (1 am ) I decided I would go to Help. (which was a partial mistake)
When I visit I try to stay away from Help or Mia Pataca because I have a couple GDP girlfriends that consider me there boyfriend.
Once inside help I make a sweep around to see if any of my girlfriends were there and needless to say I had 2 in there at once. So I try the avoidance method and was not very successful with Julianna. (why are there so many girls named that?) She is a good friend which I have passed around to my friends and family. But she still thinks that because we spent days together in the past and she calls and writes me that I should be hers.
Before she put her claws into me I was able to talk with and get the number to Angel/Angela a 21year old morena which I will have to take at some point in this trip.
I tell Julianna that I just got there this eve which was far from the truth because Deysece was a friend of hers that is able to keep a secret. After the heated conversations between the GDP’s about me, I decided it was time for me to roam around and bump into my real GDP girlfriend and let her know I am here. This is the one who got mad on my last trip for staying at her apartment and keeping a second apartment for having sex with as many ladies as I could during the day for 5 days. (12 was the body count 11pros and 1 non pro).
After talking with my girlfriend Rita and telling her that I see she is busy and I have company that we can get together later. Which she was livid and I got cursed out for the 2nd time in Portuguese and English. (it will happen 3 or 4 more times before the trip is over)
With all this drama I decided I need to work off some frustration. I meet and talked with a nice friend of Julianna named Clare. Clare has long black hair to her shoulders and a nice ass for fucking. Julianna decided she wanted to go with us, which I told her that she can on 3 conditions. 1 she must eat Clare’s pussy, 2nd she must give up her ass, and 3rd and final this is for what ever I give her as payment. She agreed and off we all went. You have to be careful when leaving Help and watch out for the kids wanting money which I told them I have none all my money is going into the GDP.
Once we get back to the apartment, Clair is first to take a shower which gave me some time with Julinanna to get a bareback blowjob. Once Clair came out of the shower and Julianna went in I decided she needed me to dine at the Y. As I was dinning at the Y Julianna came out and proceeded to give me a bareback blowjob. The girls tried to argue who was going to get to ride me first. I decided since I have already had Julianna before and was eager to have Clair that I would enter her doggie style while she eat J out. After a while of pounding that lovely pussy I decided that I needed to get her ass. What a tight ass!!! I did not know if I was going to be able to control my self, but I did until I felt J pull me out saying it’s her turn. Which gave me the opportunity to dine on Clair again.
While I lay on the bed Clair was over me while I ate here out and Julinanna was riding me cowgirl style. We continue changing positions using up 8 more different condoms over the course of the next 3 hours of incredible sex. Finally exhausted we all fall asleep on the bed. Only in Brazil do you get to have 2 beautiful women stay in your bed and drain all fluids from you.
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