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01-01-07, 02:00
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BuleDaddy
01-01-07, 05:10
By far the best play on earth. When they polish the knob every square millimeter of your johnson has "carioca boca" on it. They will accept your chowder orally to the point you are pushing them away. Only THEN will they run to the sink to spit it out. They will gladly give you bunda if you want it and you ain't too big. They are cuddly and affectionate. Then again, I don't fool with the Help hoze or those foul critters out front.

That is better than any girlfriend I have ever had since the '70s when it was unprotected and before most women knew the power they had with that booty.

Member #4217
01-01-07, 19:56
They are prostitutes because the have to be not cause they want to (well for most of them), they have kids, family, and friends so lets try to be a little more respectful when we post. I'm out. Peace.I have met quite a few who are prostitues because they want to be! Spend a little more time getting to know them, rather than repeating what you have heard others say! IMHO

T&J

Latitude Cruz
01-01-07, 20:16
Anyone in Rio right now?

I have some time off and I want to go to Rio for a week or so, but I have stayed away because I figure the hotels (and girls) are swamped with New Year's celebreations.

Can anyone there right now give me a SITREP on the scene? Did the hotels empty out in the morning of Jan1 or are there vacationers staying around for a few extra days?

LC

Urcarioca
01-01-07, 21:46
Anyone in Rio right now?

I have some time off and I want to go to Rio for a week or so, but I have stayed away because I figure the hotels (and girls) are swamped with New Year's celebreations.

LCLC,

Actually, most of the Zona Sul hotels are not full at all. I heard that 80% have "vagas".

The last few weeks of aerial chaos have discourage a bunch of foreign tourists, without speaking of the last week of violence between drug trafickers, milicias and police taking away a bunch of brazilians tourists.

O Rio continua lindo.

U.

Sunset Strip
01-01-07, 22:53
Orouzan said:
"We want to take pictures and show the girls we all may have encoutered on our vacation. And don't get me wrong it's all good. But some of us take it overboard when we show actual sexual acts with the girl or show thier faces in the photo and to me that is very disrespectful."

Actually, whether showing a girl's face is disrespectful depends on the culture. And Orouzan, I think you may be coming from another perspective. Brazilian culture is a little more open than some others when it comes to sex. Many of the girls LOVE having their pictures taken. If you are not using the pictures to make money somehow, then you are not taking advantage of them.

And I agree with the previous poster that you may be believing anti-monger propoganda. Most of the girls in Copa who are working the tourist do it because they want to.

The propogandists are the one's taking advantage of the situation. They use mongers as fodder for political gain. Plus, they do not really care about the girls. Plus, prostitution existed in Brazil long before any mongers started going there from other countries, the girls just got paid a lot less!

Last, it is just not logical that giving a girl R150-$300 for a few hours is taking advantage of her. The rich Brazilians who care little about the underclass, but are quick to SOMEHOW blame gringos for every problem in Brazil, are the ones taking advantage of the average Brazilian.


TJ

Sunset Strip
01-01-07, 23:00
Cornhole is right--Mexico is hell! I do not think you can even compare Mexico to Brazil. For US$20 you get a 15 minute rump in a dirty room, in which the door guy knocks after 10 minutes. Hopefully, the girl will not try to leave when he does. She will only take off her pants, and some only remove one leg. The girls just lay there!

For US$40 you can get a girl out of a Mexican club for 40 minutes, but they waste a lot time showering, etc. Then you only really get 15 minutes of sex. True, she will now get naked, but the knock comes right on time and she is jumping up to go. Then the doorman will ask for a tip!

Stick with Brazil unless you live close to Mexico.

TJ

El Austriaco
01-01-07, 23:47
Cornhole is right--Mexico is hell! I do not think you can even compare Mexico to Brazil. For US$20 you get a 15 minute rump in a dirty room, in which the door guy knocks after 10 minutes. Hopefully, the girl will not try to leave when he does. She will only take off her pants, and some only remove one leg. The girls just lay there!

Stick with Brazil unless you live close to Mexico.

TJ
I assume that TJ is specifically talking about Tijuana, Baja California, but I can assure you that his assessment is true all over Mexico. Comparing Mexico to Brazil for mongering is just out-of-this-world insane. The worst DFEs I have ever had throughout my mongering career have all come in Mexico. Not that I haven't tried quite a bit: after all, I have lived there almost four years.

Can you get hot, wild sex with a young, pretty P4P provider here? Yes... but it's probably gonna cost you in the range of 200 to 400. No, not Pesos, dollars. USD. So unless you live here, there's really no reason to come here when you can save your money for the plane ticket to Brazil. Or just stay at home and wank off in the good ole USA or in whatever other sex prison the world over you may be in.

The only reason to come to Mexico is if you just don't feel like jerking off by yourself any more or you get turned on by dead-fish, mechanical sex under heavy time pressure and everyone pestering you for drinks before and tips afterwards. Hey, whatever rocks your boat.

If not, go to Brazil. I do: and not only do I live close to Mexico, but in Mexico :)

EA

TJ: I liked the bit about "removing one leg". I hope you mean one leg of her pants, not.... hey, you never really know. It´s Mexico.

BootyTapper
01-02-07, 01:07
Happy New Year Fellas and safe mongering to all! I was just reading this post and had to reply since I've been to both places. The TJ does not compare in anyway Rio! The best place in TJ cannot stack up to the worst place in Rio. In Rio the women, service, acts, attitude, and atmosphere is way better. Not to put down Mexico, but to compare it to Rio is like comparing a Rolls Royce to a Mazda!

Latitude Cruz
01-02-07, 02:32
Comparing Mexico to Brazil for mongering is just out-of-this-world insane.

I'd like to officially go on the record as saying "Yeah, yeah...what HE said!!!"

Two places that sound intruiging and I will someday sample for comparison is Argentina and Colombia...but I've seen lots in Mexico and there's NO comparison.

LC

Java Man
01-02-07, 05:26
I understand that when we go on vacation, especially those of us who are single. We want to take pictures and show the girls we all may have encoutered on our vacation. And don't get me wrong it's all good. But some of us take it overboard when we show actual sexual acts with the girl or show thier faces in the photo and to me that is very disrespectful....

That's a curious statement after he posted this on both the Rio and the Brazil Photo gallery:


I had to retire the beloved Minnie Me. You see I am a well known producer in the porn world and I have came across alessandra she is a beautiful talent, I am going to fly her to the U.S.. Don't worry you haven't seen the last of minnie me. know she's saying her goodbyes in belo. You will no longer se her on the coppa.

Exec Talent
01-02-07, 06:15
The fireworks on New Year’s Eve were awesome despite the rainy weather. For those interested in other activities, pickings were slim unless you had prior arrangements since most local girls were spending time with family. Places like Help and Balcony were about the only options.

Tonight (January 1) Help started out very slow with about a 70% men to women ratio. This changed as the night went on but it still was about 50/50 at 2:00 AM with a crowd of around 500. Most of the guys appeared not to be from the US and many of the girls I talked with were not local.

One girl visiting from Brasilia, with whom I stopped to chat, told me she was very expensive and quoted me a price of R$400 for short-time. I asked how much for all night and she said she normally did not do that and would have to think about it. She is a 28 year-old mother and college student staying with a Help regular with no make-up and no attitude. She had just arrived in Rio 4 days ago.

While I would not say the quality was great, there were a lot more “normal” girls (like the one above) than I usually see. Some of the Help regulars were still around and I exchanged New Year’s greetings with a few of them.

The termases will re-open tomorrow after having been closed 12/31 and 1/1. At least one small one in Copacabana was open today.

My advice for those planning for next year is unless there is another reason for wanting to be in Rio for the New Year, you are paying a premium for lodging and will have limited options for meeting girls. You might want to plan for coming after the first week in January.

Rosine
01-02-07, 10:10
There was a period of time way back when, where I found the hotside.com.br site very helpful. I used to look at all the options on the page, even had a wish list, but never got up the cajones to actually call one. I don't know, the whole freelancing thing seems harder when you aren't in or in front of Help. At any rate, I even got to a point where I went on the Hotside Forum where locals rated the best of the best in Portuguese, but you could use simple translator tools to get the gist of who was good or bad. At any rate, do any of you still use Hotside? If so, is the forum worth the R5 they're trying to get from me to register?

I just feel like the inside scoop can really be had by this crowd. It's really hard to get real time info on centro massage places/Mini Termas or Scortshow reviews and all. Any thoughts? I'm a big time reseacher, so this kind of thing really intrigues me. Thanks.

R

Member #4217
01-02-07, 16:18
My advice for those planning for next year is unless there is another reason for wanting to be in Rio for the New Year, you are paying a premium for lodging and will have limited options for meeting girls. You might want to plan for coming after the first week in January.I agree totally. I am starting the New Year free, anbd last night checked all from Balcony to HELP! Lots of tourist. Lots of gringos, mongerers. Pretty thin picking on the girls. Even the ugly girls asked for outragious prices.

"Supply and Demand!"

I slept alone!

Fireworks were great, but I am looking forward tyo next week when things get back to more normal!

Tomnjerry527

Carrib
01-03-07, 00:50
400 REALS SHORTIME?!!!!!!... This has been my longest hiatus from Rio (12 mos)...and with the outrageous prices being quoted by less than avg GDPs, I might as well go hangout in Sampa with GK and co.. 200 USD/hour, are u guys paying these prices?

Usboys
01-03-07, 01:23
I have not been to Brazil in almost 12 months after going for 12 years every 3 months. You guys have to stop paying these prices. That is a month salary off of one hit. This crazy. Went you go f the same girls in Centro or Mosa for 15 to 30 Reals. Get smart. For convience 150 - 200 Reals on Coca. That the going international rate. (ie Costa Rica, or Domi Rep).


400 REALS SHORTIME?!!!!!!... This has been my longest hiatus from Rio (12 mos)...and with the outrageous prices being quoted by less than avg GDPs, I might as well go hangout in Sampa with GK and co.. 200 USD/hour, are u guys paying these prices?

Full Throttle
01-03-07, 03:59
Went downtown today hoping that things would be open but relatively quiet after the New Year. Boy, was I wrong.

The massage addresses in the Rio Branco 156 building were bustling with clients. Every place we tried had limited girls and most had a waiting list for rooms. So, we blew that off.

4X4 was PACKED by 4:30PM. Ratio 60/40 guys. Of the girls, less than half were doable and only one in five worth a second look. The number of girls and the ratio improved, but the place was just too packed. I don't think we sat down for the two hours we were there. The price is now 40R cover, 160/40 minutes, 180/60 minutes. I can't see going back.

Lazer 502 was very good. Maye 20 girls, but 18 shapely, 12 attractive, and 6 or 7 alluring. I went with Aline, a tried and true quantity. For those that like to speak English for a change and are ready for a wild ride, she is strongly recommended. 122R including a full hour in a nice room, entrada, 2 beers.

I went by Help around 11:30 contemplating entrance. There were a couple hundred guys out front on the Veranda, but fewer girls. I didn't feel like dealing with the crowd in my semi-comotose, completely-drained self, so I opted out.

FT

Off Road
01-03-07, 11:34
I was at Meia Pataca until about 10pm last night. Probably 30 guys and a handful of working girls, a few families. It just seems that the gals are elsewhere for the time being.

Disaster53
01-03-07, 11:39
First of all I do not understand why I'm being attacted like that like I killed a child!
I only wrote my experience and from what I saw rio is not a girlfriend town.

Maybe we do not speak the same language, since for girlfriend I intend a girlfriend!
not just a girl that let me eat her pussy or do blow job or similar.

Let me say that I've been traveling the word for pussy for the last 7 years and I'm not a novice, I know how to treat a girl and I never treat a prostitute like a prostitute.

I always spend at least half an hour in forplay (I prefer it to sex!!!) and a few minutes or more in small talks (it dipend of her knowledge of english), and I never hit on the 10's (normally), I do wash myself and I'm not fat, or bold or nothing.

The fact is that I did not find a girlfriend there but just playing prostitute there.
Maybe I was unluky or I do not know what, but I found girlfriends in Cuba, Philippines, Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia, India, but not in Brasil.

As for the fact that I found Rio safe, I say it again I was on the beach (not on the sidewalk, but on the beach) at 1 am in the morning and it was safe, not only once but nearly every night.

If you go on the beach with a rolex and a camera and you are dress like a millioner of course you get mugged but that happen even in New York!

Was I lucky? Maybe, but for 3 weeks in 3 different city I had no problems whatsoever!

Lorenzo
01-03-07, 19:09
The fact is that I did not find a girlfriend there but just playing prostitute there.
Maybe I was unluky or I do not know what, but I found girlfriends in Cuba, Philippines, Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia, India, but not in Brasil.

As for the fact that I found Rio safe, I say it again I was on the beach (not on the sidewalk, but on the beach) at 1 am in the morning and it was safe, not only once but nearly every night.
It seems to me that we are dealing with a fundamental problem in communication, probably exacerbated by language difficulties (since Disaster53 appears not to be a native speaker of English), with respect to exactly what constitutes a GFE. A GFE most emphatically does NOT mean that the GDP will become your girlfriend. It means that the sexual encounter with her, during the time that you are paying her for sex, will be like a sexual encounter with a GF. This means that she will show some enthusiasm and gusto for having sex with you, that she will try to please you, and that she will at least act like someone who loves you would. The sex will not be rote and mechanical as it often is with a prostitute. This means at a minimum that she will engage in DFK, BBBJ, and DATY. It doesn't necessarily mean that she will engage in anal, because many GFs won't do that, although she may. IT also doesn't mean that she will offer BBFS, because many GFs won't do that either, and most mongers don't want that anyway. And it also means that after the sexual act has been completed she will engage in some degree of afterplay with you and not make a beeline for the door. Maybe I've missed a few things, but to my mind that is what constitutes a GFE.

It is also possible that a GDP may act like your girlfriend after the sexual encounter and want to hang with you, but this is not essential to a GFE. In fact, IMHO that is best avoided unless you want to open a can of worms. This doesn't mean that you can't arrange future sexual encounters with her, or arrange for her to travel with her, but it should always be clear that the meetings are for sex and perhaps a degree of companionship.

As far as walking on the beach at 1am, let's just say that you were extremely lucky. Rather than adopt an arrogant attitude that the beaches are perfectly safe at night, when almost everyone else thinks otherwise, I suggest you defer to the knowledge of more experienced Rio mongers and acknowledge that the beaches, and even the streets, can be very dangerous. Otherwise you may not be so lucky next time.

Lorenzo

El Austriaco
01-03-07, 19:27
First of all I do not understand why I'm being attacted like that like I killed a child!I only wrote my experience and from what I saw rio is not a girlfriend town.
Come on now, nobody is attacking you. People were just expressing their surprise at your unability to find a "GFE" in Rio. Seems like you are one of the few people ever who managed to do that, so people are baffled, to say the least.


Maybe we do not speak the same language, since for girlfriend I intend a girlfriend!not just a girl that let me eat her pussy or do blow job or similar.
So what are you looking for, a girlfriend experience, or a girlfriend? These are not the same things, you know (as Lorenzo explains in great detail below, for example). If you were looking for a girlfriend as opposed to a GDP acting like a GF for a while, when they why are you trying to find them in Frank's or Cicciolina, for crying out lout? You know, the girls there are hookers, and these places are pretty much rip-off joints, so the chances of even finding a GFE from these garotas are slim to none. You never answered my question why you went to those places in the first place, but anyhow.


The fact is that I did not find a girlfriend there but just playing prostitute there. Maybe I was unluky or I do not know what, but I found girlfriends in Cuba, Philippines, Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia, India, but not in Brasil.
Well, you go to Barbarella, Frank's, Cicciolina's, etc. What did you expect to find there, exactly? Regular girls just waiting for a guy like you? Surprise, surprise, you found what's there: prostitutes waiting to play a foreigner, nothing else. You sound like those guys who have fallen prey to the (not so uncommon) notion that they will just go to Brazil and be stormed by regular girls craving sex with them. Like you, they are in for a big surprise: that, without speaking Portuguese and with solid information on where to go, they are most likely going to run into professional hookers only.

So you did better in all these other countries? Good for you. Maybe you wanna share your secrets there: for an experienced world monger, you have written preciously little about how you did it in Cuba or India or Cambodia. Care to share?


As for the fact that I found Rio safe, I say it again I was on the beach (not on the sidewalk, but on the beach) at 1 am in the morning and it was safe, not only once but nearly every night.
I was giving you the benefit of the doubt so far, but when it comes to walking on the beach at 1 am in the morning, let me tell you this: forget about the fact you didn't find a GF or even a GFE, just go to church every day thanking God for the amazing trip you had and that you came back sound and safe. Please also pray that he should never ever let you think any more about doing anything as dumb as that.

Apparently, you seem to falling into the logical fallacy of "I did something, nothing happened, so it must have been safe". Let me give you an example: I've hung out into the wee hours of the morning in Copacabana many times, really drunk to the point where I didn't know what I was doing any more, with lots of cash on me, taking pirate cabs home, etc. Did anything happen? No. But would I recommend any of these things as being SAFE in Copacabana? No, I wouldn't. All of these things were incredibly stupid of myself, and bad things could have happened very easily to me, just like they did happen (and keep happening) to people that did or do exactly the same thing as me. And if anything had happened to me, I only would have had myself to blame. You understand?

So in your personal case, the fact that you walked at 1 AM on the beach and nothing happened only means one thing: pure, dumb luck. Nothing more, and nothing else.

You don't believe me, fine. Please find me one, just one, publication anywhere that states that walking on the beach at night in Rio is safe. A guide book, safety recommendation by a hotel, by the Rio tourist board, the tourist police. Anything.


Was I lucky? Maybe, but for 3 weeks in 3 different city I had no problems whatsoever!
Early in 2006, I remember reading a guy here on ISG whose garota ran out of blow and they entered a favela in Rio together in search of drugs. Now, that might have been even luckier (and more stupid) than you, but not by much. And at least, he wasn't recommending it afterwards as a "safe" activity.

EA

Disaster53
01-03-07, 20:25
Ok it seems to me that we had problems understanding each other.

For me grilfriend feeling is just that. A girl that even if payed act like my girlfriend, for the night or the few days I choose to spend with her.

If for you, girlfriend is a girl that "partecipate"in the act, and not just sit there waiting for the all thing to be finished, then I had a girlfriend in rio, but for me that was just sex and nothing more.

I can have the same here in london with a one night stand in any pub.

I wanted something more and I belived I could find it in rio but I was wrong and that was what I posted.

In cambodia for example I spent 3 days with a girl that I only payed for an hour, we went eating and dancing togheter and in the hotel room we were not just fucking but also talking and waching tv. That's whatI consider girlfriend feeling.

I did not post about these places because only last year Idiscover this place and since then I only posed about Philippines.

To answer El Austriaco I did visit Barbarella and Cicciolina ecc not to find a girlfriend, I know that I would not find one there and that those places are rip-offs, I learned that 7 years ago in Thailand, (you did not have to tell me this, once again I'm not a novice), I went there to see them because I like to see as much as I can, and to help others on the board I reported what I found, you seems the only one that did not understand it!

Was I lucky to walk on the beach at night? Is rio safe? just because a book say otherwise doesn't make it so.

My experience is that it was safe and in 3 weeks I had not problems.

So I prefer to belive what I saw to what a book or guide say.

You also seems not to belive me when I say that I found girlfriends in all the othercountryes I mentioned, well I cannot care less. I know it was true and it'sgood for me.

Brasil is a close chapter for me since I rarely visit the same country more than once
it was good but I expect better. The end.

El Austriaco
01-04-07, 00:05
You also seems not to belive me when I say that I found girlfriends in all the othercountryes I mentioned, well I cannot care less. I know it was true and it'sgood for me.
I believe that you had good experiences there. But actually, the way you describe it ("a girl you PAID for one hour and spent days with"), I still don't believe you get the difference between a GF and a GFE, because you still keep calling them GFs. Reread Lorenzo's post.

As to not finding a GFE in Rio at the time of the year you went (high season) and the places you went to, well, I guess that explains a lot.

As to the safety issue, I just rest my case. For your own sake, I guess it´s better you don't go back, really. If you do, just make sure to walk all night on the beach again. Hey, you might not find the elusive Rio GFE, but the Rio favela thug BFE :). It might not even be an "experience", it might be real.

Enjoy the London pub crawl.

EA

Member #4378
01-04-07, 01:18
Someone from this forum gave me an excellent advice a while back on how to take 2 girls to a hotel room, such as Rio Roiss, where only 1 guest is allowed. The advice was to take 1 to the room and then come and get the other. My follow-up question was whether I need to discuss this with hotel reception guy before leaving to get the girls in order not to expect a surprise when 3 of us are back OR this is an existing practice. I would appreciate any advice. I am leaving for a short trip to Rio soon and will stay in a hotel instead of an apartment. Does anyone know any decent hotels (not motels) close to Help that will let me bring 2 girls for an extra charge if I stay in a double room? Thanks.

Mangera
01-04-07, 01:25
I am in the mood to go for a wonderful stroll on the beach with my girlfriend tonight. I think I will wait until the bad guys go to sleep, after midnight. Hopefully I will not be unluky. I will make sure to wash for bad guys. I will report tommorrow.

Mr Enternational
01-04-07, 03:05
Someone from this forum gave me an excellent advice a while back on how to take 2 girls to a hotel room, such as Rio Roiss, where only 1 guest is allowed. The advice was to take 1 to the room and then come and get the other. My follow-up question was whether I need to discuss this with hotel reception guy before leaving to get the girls in order not to expect a surprise when 3 of us are back OR this is an existing practice. I would appreciate any advice. I am leaving for a short trip to Rio soon and will stay in a hotel instead of an apartment. Does anyone know any decent hotels (not motels) close to Help that will let me bring 2 girls for an extra charge if I stay in a double room? Thanks.My advice is NOT to stay in a hotel if you plan on mongering. For one, you are going to have to pay extra for a guest. I stayed at the Rio Roiss on Easter last year for 1 day. I arrived from Sao Paulo and my apartment contact did not want to leave the house because it was a holiday. I have a friend who would always stay at the RR so I decided to try it.

I arrived about 7pm and not wanting to pay for 2 days I told the desk guy that I would need a room for 24 hrs (7pm to 7pm) because the flights leave at night. He told me that it would be US$60, but if I wanted to bring a guest I would have to pay some $15 or so extra. That night was really dead in front of Help plus it was raining. I saw a girl there who I had banged at 4x4 a couple of years back and had always promised to call but never called. She stayed that night with me for R$100.

The next day when she left I had a non-pro come over about noon. She brought a friend with her. We all tried to go up to the room together to chill out but the desk guy would not allow it. So we went up and left the friend in the lobby. Later that night when I went to check out, the clerk tried to charge me for 2 nights, when I had previously made the agreement with him for US$60 for 24 hours. I argued with him in Portuguese and he took 1 day off. So I ended up paying about $75 for 24 hours, when if I would have had an apartment I would have only paid $50 and would not have had to hassle with anyone about who can or can't come to my room.

There is virtually no way to sneak someone into your room in a hotel. The elevators are generally right near the desk and the clerk sees everyone who is going in and out. Besides that, any guests that you may want have to sign in and leave their id with the desk clerk.

Buckwheat
01-04-07, 03:43
Someone from this forum gave me an excellent advice a while back on how to take 2 girls to a hotel room, such as Rio Roiss, where only 1 guest is allowed. The advice was to take 1 to the room and then come and get the other. My follow-up question was whether I need to discuss this with hotel reception guy before leaving to get the girls in order not to expect a surprise when 3 of us are back OR this is an existing practice. I would appreciate any advice. I am leaving for a short trip to Rio soon and will stay in a hotel instead of an apartment. Does anyone know any decent hotels (not motels) close to Help that will let me bring 2 girls for an extra charge if I stay in a double room? Thanks.Wow would you really leave a girl in the room alone? I assume you know her or are we talking about a help girl? I would worry she would be gone and all my shit might be with her. You might try the Aporador in Ipanema (spelling) but I think you will have a hard time getting two in a hotel. Honestly I would stay in a apartment or go to a motel.

Scotch
01-04-07, 13:03
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Boston Globe Wed, 03 Jan 2007 0:46 AM PST
RIO DE JANEIRO -- A decade after Brazil became the first developing country to guarantee free AIDS treatment to every citizen, the spiraling cost of new drugs is threatening to bankrupt the highly effective program.
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Abzsafado
01-04-07, 17:37
This place and Ciccolinas are often regarded as rip off joints but I have been hanging round them for a long time and some of the best fun I have had has been with girls from them.

If you go in at 1am in Franks buy two beers watch the live sex show, maybe get pulled up for a lap dance if you are lucky, it will cost you R$40. The show runs until about 2am then all the girls get up for a dance and if you are feeling energetic you can join them. Don't buy a girl a drink and don't take her out, unless you want to pay a bar fine. Tell her to meet you after the place closes. They can't leave without a client until about 3am depending on the number of people inside.

Ciccolenas gets busy at about 3am when all the other bars let the girls out.

Prices are variable R$100 upwards depending on the time of night and how desperate for money the girl is. Low season is best, carnival and summer its more expensive mainly due to idiots, usually american, who seem to insist on driving up the prices eg R$1000 for the night.

Enclosed is a poor quality picture of a franks girl that put on a good show for me with her friend.

Jan 156
01-04-07, 19:33
Someone from this forum gave me an excellent advice a while back on how to take 2 girls to a hotel room, such as Rio Roiss, where only 1 guest is allowed. The advice was to take 1 to the room and then come and get the other. My follow-up question was whether I need to discuss this with hotel reception guy before leaving to get the girls in order not to expect a surprise when 3 of us are back OR this is an existing practice. I would appreciate any advice. I am leaving for a short trip to Rio soon and will stay in a hotel instead of an apartment. Does anyone know any decent hotels (not motels) close to Help that will let me bring 2 girls for an extra charge if I stay in a double room? Thanks.

If you are only there for a short while an apartment can be difficult and time consuming unless you know the agent already (in which case it is in some cases possible). Again, I'd support the other posts that say, unless you *really* know what you are doing, don't leave a girl alone in your room on that basis. (One of the best ways to be able to relax and 'trust' people is to be in the habit of never giving them the opportunity to rob you!)

The only way I can think of doing it would be to get an agency to send two girls separately (pay for the separate taxis).

If you have people visiting you in the daytime this often causes less problems than in the evening.

Off Road
01-04-07, 23:30
I am in the mood to go for a wonderful stroll on the beach with my girlfriend tonight. I think I will wait until the bad guys go to sleep, after midnight. Hopefully I will not be unluky. I will make sure to wash for bad guys. I will report tommorrow.
On the slim chance you are unlucky with your 1am stroll, I will look for your body along the shore during my morning run and will report if you do not tomorrow.

Skisandy
01-05-07, 05:24
Besides being reasonably prudent by not getting too drunk, keeping an eye on your surroundings, staying in well lit and preferably policed areas, not getting involved with any drugs, and - YES - *not** strollling on the beach at 1am, I feel that this is one of the best prevention of being victim of a crime in Rio:

Always be part of a group, even if it is a small one, 3 - 4 guys!

If you are alone, or 2 guys only, you clearly are more exposed.

It only took me 5 minutes on my first day last time I was in Rio, strolling on the beach walk at NOON, to be hit by a shit flinger. Not that it was a problem, it was just a nuisance.

But even late at night, if you are just 3 or 4 guys, it makes all the difference - feeling and also being safer! A small group of men simply is a heightened risk for potential trouble makers - to mess with the group or anyone in the group, so they leave you alone.

By the way, there are of course garotas around, and - while I am not counting them as part of the group - it is also worthwhile to listen to them! If any one of them suddenly gets nervous and panicky, "let's get the hell out of here", it is definitely best to heed her advice and leave - now!

May I also add that El Austriaco's advice always is well written, well balanced, and the absolute truth. He KNOWS what is going on, and we should all be thankful and appreciative of his advice. Muitissimo obrigado!

Skisandy

Bacinino
01-05-07, 05:39
Hi guys,

I come from Italy and I have a question! I'm working on a cruise ship and I am in Rio de Janeiro every sunday. Unfortunately every termas is closed! (I think...)

Do you know any place where I can find some chiks?

Thanks a lot

Lorenzo
01-05-07, 05:59
There is virtually no way to sneak someone into your room in a hotel. The elevators are generally right near the desk and the clerk sees everyone who is going in and out.
This is an absolutely ridiculous statement. I have done it many times, at some of the best hotels in Rio: Le Meridien, Caesar Park, Sheraton. I only got caught once, which was at the Sheraton, and in that case all I had to do was have her register at the front desk. What you say may be true for cheapass dumps like Rio Roiss.

At most of the upscale hotels, if you book the room for two people, they will let a guest stay with you at no extra charge. Usually the cost of the room is the same whether you book it for one or two people. The Sheraton will let you bring a different chica every night, provided she registers every time. They just don't want anyone staying in the rooms that they don't know about. In some hotels, however, once you have registered one chica they will charge you extra if you bring in a different one on a subsequent night.

As I have said repeatedly on this forum, in the upscale hotels the most important thing is that the girl not look like a hooker. The importance of this can't be overstated.

Lorenzo

Java Man
01-05-07, 07:10
I do not believe this place has a bar fine, unless you take out one of the dancers/strippers. For the most part, the GDP's found here are freelancers. Much like the one's at Balcony, Meia Pattaca, Help and Terraca Atlantica. I don't recall if there is a cover for La Ciccolina. But I do remember, the best drink deal is the bucket of choppes. You only pay for what you drink.
I, more than likely, will visit it when I return to Rio in 2 weeks. :D

Wild Cherokee
01-06-07, 02:11
Getting no GFE in Brasil is like finding no Arabs in Saudi Arabia!Best quote I read today!

WC

Wild Cherokee
01-06-07, 03:03
Gentlemen,

Please allow me to chime in. I firmly believe that most GDPs do not mind having their picture taken. My experiences with various GDPs from the Termas to Help, from Veranda to the beach have all been positive. IMHO, more than anything else, it is about the chemistry that you create with them. If you make them laugh, smile and in general feel comfortable around you then taking pictures will not be a problem. I've even confessed to GDPs that I was taking pictures to show my friends and they did not care! I told one that she was so beautiful that I was going to put her picture (naked) on display so that everyone could appreciate it. SHE BLUSHED AND F*CKED ME SENSELESS! I of course took that as consent. Furthermore, all the GDPs I've been with love to look at the photos (digital) after they've been taken to critique them.

My buddies (2 fellow mongerers) who have traveled with me to Rio never have any problems either. We rent one large 3 BR apartment in Impanema (next to Caesar Park) and bring the GDPs from everywhere to our place. The filming and photos that take place there would make Steven Spielberg jealous. We even brought the FANTASTIC FOUR from L'uomos to our place for a TLN party (after the Terma closed). OMG, what a night to remember! We hardly stumbled through the door before they immediately began posing, ripping off clothes, grabbing us, grabbing each other, fondling, sucking, etc. and ASKED US TO TAKE THEIR PICTURES! When we didn't snap shots fast enough (ummm... we were kinda getting distracted) they took the cameras and proceeded to take pictures themselves. One huge "documented" orgy. Incredible to say the least!

So, in closing, if your GDP doesn't permit pictures, then that is your personal experience (or perhaps misfortune). If you don't let your GDP know that you're going to show photos that you've taken of her to others, that's your personal decision! Whether she is clothed, naked, or taking the pounding like a porn star when you snap your shots, the decision on how to handle the photos is a personal one. One that you deal with on your own time and in your own way. I think that we should stop policing each other and enjoy the forum for what it's worth. Comradery and information. Period. If you don't like the pics, don't look. If you still can't get over it, leave the forum! Problem solved!

Now, before someone tries to bash me for not posting my pics, ahem, please let me say that I just haven't had the time to resize them yet. However, they will be coming shortly.

BTW, PROPS TO T&J! He's lovin' Rio and ain't ashamed to show the world!

Member #4378
01-06-07, 04:13
This is an absolutely ridiculous statement. I have done it many times, at some of the best hotels in Rio: Le Meridien, Caesar Park, Sheraton. I only got caught once, which was at the Sheraton, and in that case all I had to do was have her register at the front desk. What you say may be true for cheapass dumps like Rio Roiss.

At most of the upscale hotels, if you book the room for two people, they will let a guest stay with you at no extra charge. Usually the cost of the room is the same whether you book it for one or two people. The Sheraton will let you bring a different chica every night, provided she registers every time. They just don't want anyone staying in the rooms that they don't know about. In some hotels, however, once you have registered one chica they will charge you extra if you bring in a different one on a subsequent night.

As I have said repeatedly on this forum, in the upscale hotels the most important thing is that the girl not look like a hooker. The importance of this can't be overstated.

Lorenzo

Lorenzo,

I believe there is a misunderstanding. Mr Enternational was discussing how to bring 2 girls to a room if a double room is booked. Most (all?) Rio hotels, unlike hotels in Asia, do not allow to bring 2 girls, even for an extra charge, if you are staying in a double room. This basically makes it almost impossible to spend a night with 2 girls in your room when visiting Rio for a short term. Have you tried to bring 2 girls for overnight to a double room in Sheraton?

El Austriaco
01-06-07, 05:54
I come from Italy and I have a question! I'm working on a cruise ship and I am in Rio de Janeiro every sunday. Unfortunately every termas is closed! (I think...)

Do you know any place where I can find some chiks?
Meia Pataca as early as noon, Balcony as early as 4 in the afternoon, Terraco Atlantico as early as about 9:30 PM, Help starting at 11 PM. This should get you started.

EA

Euro100
01-06-07, 06:04
I am in Rio de Janeiro every sunday. Unfortunately every termas is closed! (I think...)


Not true. The termas in centro are closed, true. But other termas are open. Most importantly, L'uomo is open every Sunday after 4 pm.

enjoy
euro

El Austriaco
01-06-07, 06:04
Mr Enternational was discussing how to bring 2 girls to a room if a double room is booked. Most (all?) Rio hotels, unlike hotels in Asia, do not allow to bring 2 girls, even for an extra charge, if you are staying in a double room. This basically makes it almost impossible to spend a night with 2 girls in your room when visiting Rio for a short term?
Hotels

I have taken two girls to my room during the day at the hotel that I usually stay at, though one of them was my ex-GF (read: "regular GDP"), who was registered with me the entire time there (for months), and the other was a friend of hers (read "GDP friend"), so this might not exactly have been the most common scenario. Also, I have never tried to have two girls with me overnight (I sort of suspect they would have balked at that, too). As others have mentioned, the vast majority of hotels in Rio will NOT allow two girls at the same time.

Love Motels

My suggestion to those who are into threesomes: go to a love motel, problem resolved (like the Lido on Rua Ronald de Carvalho, just behind Balcony, which definitely allowed to bring two chicks at the same time; in 2004; they charged R$ 35 for two hours for one girl, R$ 50.00 if you bring two).

I know, somebody is going to say "but how about TLN?". Well, short of booking two adjacent rooms in your hotel and registering one in each room, you might as well consider taking the two girls to a love motel twice, with the side benefit that you get to sleep alone (for me, that IS a benefit) and you don't have to worry about getting robbed and whatever not. Overall, paying twice for the motel is gonna be cheaper, anyway, and you still get to spend 4 hours with two girls. Just an idea.

Rental Apartment

Well, if 4 hours with two girls is not enough for you and you just HAVE to wake up next to two carioca bundas, go rent an apartment. Not that I necessarily recommend spending the whole night in your apartment with two GDPs you have just met (I don't!), but that would make it feasible (if not necessarily advisable).

EA

Mangera
01-06-07, 06:51
You are right, Luomo's is open on Sunday's. So is Solarium too. I can not remember now, but I think Monte Carlo is also open for business on Sunday's. I will call a buddy tonight and find out and report tommorrow. Its his favorite hangout, so he should know.

Jan 156
01-06-07, 07:22
. . . and of course Mimosa is open 24/7 ;-))) . . .

Java Man
01-06-07, 07:30
Also open Sundays 4p to 12a.
It's on there website:
www.termasmontecarlo.com.br

Mr Enternational
01-06-07, 08:42
Hotels

and you don't have to worry about getting robbed and whatever not. Not that I necessarily recommend spending the whole night in your apartment with two GDPs you have just met (I don't!), but that would make it feasible (if not necessarily advisable).

EAThat is the main reason it is shunned. Because they are more likely to rob you or drug you or both when two or more are together. It is not advisable to be with two GDPs when you are alone.

Mangera
01-06-07, 15:19
Thanks for the input.

Mangera
01-06-07, 15:27
I agree with all of your points on threesomes. When I stay in Rio, I always rent an apartment. Yet for threesomes, I almost always go to a love motel. The one time I did not do this was due to an unplanned event in my apartment ( gotta love Brasil ).

I play it safe. Yes, I understand that for some people, this means added costs. But for peace of mind, and not having to worry about cash or items missing, its all worth it. Plus, I like the fact that the garotas have no idea of where I am staying in Rio. When staying for long periods of time in Rio, this could be a potential problem.

Member #4217
01-06-07, 15:48
Dude. Don't you know most of these girls repulse in the fact that they have to sell their bodies. I don't know what girls down in brazil you have met that said they love being prostitutes. I'm just saying at least photoshop the face on the pic before you post it. And by the way I'm sure if you told them you where going to post the pic on the net they would decline the request to photograph them in the first place. Out.First of all, I do tell them I am posting their photos on the internet. And, many of them ask me to also give their telephone number. And, generally, anyone who PMs me, I will gladly do so. In fact one thanked me for doing so just a couple nights ago.

Mama sends these girls out to do this, or their boyfriends!

Just because you are still sitting in your holy robes, and think that these girls should be ashamed as you would be, does not make it so.

Learn some Portuguese, and talk to these girls. None of them are ashamed of what they do.

Just like me, everyone who knows them are aware of what they do. And, they do not mind it a bit!

Yes, there are a few who ask me not to show their faces, and if you look at my photos, you will see that I do it when asked.

Maybe get some real experience of your own, rather than repeat what you hear from the other super conservatives.

I for one get tired of the few who try to tell us that the girls are ashamed of what they do, and we should be ashamed of helping them do it.

If you are not already in sexually restricted America, move there! You will be happier.

IMHO

T&J

Cool Hand Luke
01-06-07, 18:20
Of the recent visits I have made to Four x Four, one of Rios medium price range Termas, I spent two of those occasions in the company of a very pretty and charming 20 yr old, who I would rate as one of the clubs more attractive companions. During my time with her she talked freely of her earnings at the club and informed me that the average number of clients she entertained daily was approx 4-5. Of the RS160 I paid the club (the pre five special) she would be paid RS110, bringing her daily take to between $200-$250 per day or more that $4000 per month and around $50,000 per year. Not bad for a 20 yr old Brazilian girl!

As I lay on the sun-bed after a session in the sauna, I noticed my little sex bomb in the corridor signing in with her next client, barely twenty minutes after I had parted company with her.

These are busy times for the towns "working girls" and there is no doubt that they are keen to satisfy the demand of their love hungry clients.

Bacinino
01-06-07, 19:50
Thank you to everybody! But unfortunately I stay in Rio only from 9a.m. to 4 p.m. Then I have to come back to the ship!

Do you know any terma open in this time?

Nordboer
01-06-07, 21:53
Whats the 3 best thermas in rio right now?

Lorenzo
01-06-07, 22:10
Lorenzo,

Have you tried to bring 2 girls for overnight to a double room in Sheraton?
Yes, I did it once, in 2004. I was staying there with my Brazilian GF at the time (a former GDP), and she wanted to do a threesome with one of her friends, also a GDP, with whom we had done threesomes before. Anticipating possible trouble with management, we nonchalantly walked through the lobby--this was in the afternoon--and took the elevator down to the pool level. We were prepared to say, if anyone asked, that we were going to have lunch at the poolside restaurant. Since nobody said anything, the 3 of us just got back on the elevator and went up to the room. Hint: almost everything is easier during the day.

I also did a threesome at the Debret in 2001, with the same 2 girls, in fact. That time I waited in the lobby until the 2 girls showed up, then the 3 of us just walked to the elevator and went up to the room, without ever making eye contact with anyone at the desk. A couple of hours later when the 3 of us came down and went out to dinner, I turned in my key at the front desk. The girl at the desk was unable to suppress a giggle, so she knew what was going on. Unfortunately, the Debret has long since stopped allowing outside guests into the rooms. Too bad; it was good value for the money, and right on the beach front.

Lorenzo

Buckwheat
01-07-07, 01:16
http://www.othercrap.com/

Here is the (Brazilian model) Daniela Cicarelli video if you have not seen. Hopefully it is ok to post a link here.

Polvo
01-07-07, 05:55
.....bringing her daily take to between $200-$250 per day or more that $1000 per month........


Respectfully, I think you mean $1000 per week or $4000 per month? If so, pretty damm good wages for Rio!!

Shame I'm not pretty!!

Suerte

Polvo

Member #4378
01-07-07, 23:21
Yes, I did it once, in 2004. I was staying there with my Brazilian GF at the time (a former GDP), and she wanted to do a threesome with one of her friends, also a GDP, with whom we had done threesomes before. Anticipating possible trouble with management, we nonchalantly walked through the lobby--this was in the afternoon--and took the elevator down to the pool level. We were prepared to say, if anyone asked, that we were going to have lunch at the poolside restaurant. Since nobody said anything, the 3 of us just got back on the elevator and went up to the room. Hint: almost everything is easier during the day.

I also did a threesome at the Debret in 2001, with the same 2 girls, in fact. That time I waited in the lobby until the 2 girls showed up, then the 3 of us just walked to the elevator and went up to the room, without ever making eye contact with anyone at the desk. A couple of hours later when the 3 of us came down and went out to dinner, I turned in my key at the front desk. The girl at the desk was unable to suppress a giggle, so she knew what was going on. Unfortunately, the Debret has long since stopped allowing outside guests into the rooms. Too bad; it was good value for the money, and right on the beach front.

Lorenzo


I agree about Debret. I also stayed there when they were GF. What disappoints me that Rio Roiss used to allow 2 girls in 2005, when M******* (cant write the full name, sorry) was working there.

Veterano
01-08-07, 00:54
Bacino ~ in response to your question, Aeropuerto opens at noon (they are open for lunch), pretty nice place too, maybe a little quite

For the address try their website

Veterano

Bacinino
01-08-07, 03:28
Ok, I will try terma aeroporto! Do you know their website? Thank you very much! Anyway I've also been on Scandinavia near the port today. Not really bed! Some nice chicks, I took one black ass. Awesome!

Urcarioca
01-10-07, 01:17
3-4 weeks of cloudy, rainy and cold weather in January in Rio. I'm still using a blanket on my bed and I don't sleep alone.

Where are the good oldies 40°C of summer?

Unbelievable!

Exec Talent
01-10-07, 12:55
I keep trying. Not only is the top talent at L'uomo dwindling rapidly, they now have only one hot shower. I guess someone noted my complaint so to make sure that the water is hot, they reduced capacity. It is really pretty ugly, just a big hole where the shower used to be.

Speaking of ugly, ever since it got out that I am now doing business in Brazil, all the employees at L'uomo keep asking me for jobs. They really hate the manager or should I say, mismanager.

Also, the place is just overrun with Italians and the girls are desperately kissing up to them in hopes of getting business. But, they are good for a laugh or two. With the limited number of showers I suggested to two Italian guys that they shower together. I am not sure what they were singing, but it might have been Mamma Mia! I know it is hard, but just remember while you are visiting Rio that Italians are people too.

Full Throttle
01-10-07, 16:26
3-4 weeks of cloudy, rainy and cold weather in January in Rio. I'm still using a blanket on my bed and I don't sleep alone.

Where are the good oldies 40°C of summer?

Unbelievable!

Maybe we're only experiencing "hemispheric" rather than "global" warming?

It does seem to me that I've been rained on more in Rio than in Seattle. It might just be me. Maybe if I quit coming the rain will stop, the dollar will strengthen, L'uomos will regain its former stature and 100R will become the going rate for all-nighters from Barbarellas.

Had another good experience at the 156 building... Cleo/Fernanda at 1833. The best, most enthusiastic BBBJ I've ever received. The amazing accomplishment on her part was to attack with seeming abandon without inflicting even a hint of pain. Another 60R well-spent.

FT
Dell Sucks

Java Man
01-10-07, 18:41
http://www.termasaeroporto.com.br/

That was their website. I just checked it and it's not working. Address is:
216 - C, Beira Mar Ave. - Centro
Open noon to midnight M-F
I visited once a looong time ago.

Off Road
01-11-07, 12:48
In front of Help and at Balcony, business seems to be back in order after the New Year. Restaranuts are not packed, you can get tables and there are a lot of girls waiting to be had. Some are still in fantasy land, asking 400 at Balcony, but I think my friend found one to go home for TLN for 100.

Bubba Boy
01-11-07, 17:30
I thought this was an el nino year and hence water currents around Rio as colder than normal, hence weather is crappy............but on the other hand I am not an expert on the subject and could be talking out of my ass.

One thing is certain, Rio has been f**king cold this year with enough rain to give anybody the shits.

Rosine
01-12-07, 01:35
Can you guys please advise on the best way to get a cheap flight? I've always used Continental with miles, which is great by the way, but now, I've got to go with real money and these prices just seem crazy.. It's all north of $1000. Thoughts? I'm looking for April.

Exec Talent
01-12-07, 14:25
Paid a visit to the 2a2 swing club and both my date and I had a great time. When we arrived the hostess gave us a tour which I highly recommend. They have lockers up front where you can secure your valuables and give you a paper, which like a kilo restaurant, is used to mark your drinks. They do have a dress code of sorts, similar to Help. You have to wear pants (which I found out when I showed up in shorts).

The live music was very good and the dance music outstanding. Unlike many places you could enjoy the music and still hold a conversation.

There was a strip show which included both a man and two women. I do hope that the guy in the show does not visit any stables, because if he stripped down the horses would get nervous.

The second floor, where no unaccompanied males are allowed is for swinging. Here you can have sex with your date (or someone elses) or just watch.

R$75 per person to get in. Total cost for the night with drinks came to R$200.

Definitely an experience worth repeating. Here is their web site which I could only access via the Pprtuguese link.

http://www.2a2.com.br/home.asp

Exec Talent
01-12-07, 14:44
Based upon my observations and comments of others, Monte Carlo clearly has the better talent these days. Also, if you give them an e-mail address (not your work one!) they will send you e-mails with discounts and specials.

http://www.termasmontecarlo.com.br/

They are located one block off of Ave. Atlantica on the street after Siqueira Campos if you were coming from Help. Many people tell me they have trouble locating it so I also have included a map from their site.

P.S. They do have hot water and plenty of showers.

Java Man
01-12-07, 19:48
ET:
I visited 2a2 before, maybe a couple years ago. They say it's Rio's best swing club. When I went, I saw few hotties. Mainly older middle aged couples.
Saw same thing with the strippers.
Upstairs was a zoo!! It was fire code violation crowded. Couples were playing, but rooms were locked. You could see, but not join. Not much happening in the open play room: one guy getting a BJ. Thrill of the night, if you will, was getting felt up by an older garota. And I do meant OLD!
I went hoping to see in shape garotas, (non GDP) at play. That was not my experience.
Although I did find that in SP, but I suspect they were GDP.
(Think a swinging Help)
Also older guy hit on my girl, as he didn't have one to play with.
I have not returned.

More details, please. What did the swinging chicks look like; How much "action" was there? general make-up of the participants, that sort of thing.
Thanks in advance ET.

Off Road
01-12-07, 22:41
Can you guys please advise on the best way to get a cheap flight? I've always used Continental with miles, which is great by the way, but now, I've got to go with real money and these prices just seem crazy.. It's all north of $1000. Thoughts? I'm looking for April.
The rates are all hight until after March 1. This is high season. I just booked $1200 on AA (Rio to California). That was the best they could do until after March 1. I typically just call the airlines and ask what their best rate is as I have flexible travel times, they will most likely beat travel agencies.

Amerioca
01-13-07, 08:53
Based upon my observations and comments of others, Monte Carlo clearly has the better talent these days. Also, if you give them an e-mail address (not your work one!) they will send you e-mails with discounts and specials. .

I have to disagree. My most recent visit in Dec., I found the talent in Luomo's much better looking vs MC. Of course, we can debate the subjective matter of beauty til death. As for good attitudes, LM was several marks higher.

Have gone to LM for years, and never encountered any major problems. A few cunts have mouthed off to me in the past, and have been billed for drinks I did not order...but nothing that couldn't be fixed. I have a very good relationship with the mama san there, and she makes sure I'm always taken care of.

In fairness, of the years frequenting the various t's in Rio, I have been billed for drinks I did not order at LM and 4X4 but never at MC. Valeu.

Amerioca
01-13-07, 09:01
Can you guys please advise on the best way to get a cheap flight? I've always used Continental with miles, which is great by the way, but now, I've got to go with real money and these prices just seem crazy.. It's all north of $1000. Thoughts? I'm looking for April.

Try http://www.allcheapfares.com . I have used them for my past two trips, and did not pay more than $850 RT including taxes each. Of course, I did not have a preference for a specific carrier, only going with the least expensive.

I live on the West Coast, and fly out of SNA. Just checked the price of my most recent RT ticket and it was $774.49, including taxes. UAL was the carrier.

Exec Talent
01-13-07, 16:58
ET:

More details, please. What did the swinging chicks look like; How much "action" was there? general make-up of the participants, that sort of thing.
Thanks in advance ET.

The strippers in the strip show were very attractive blonds. The couples looked like suburban America, but most were younger, attractive and in shape. If it was in the US I would describe it as a Yuppie crowd. It was a very friendly, upbeat atmosphere. As for the action, there was a lot of it and the participants were representative of the crowd as a whole. Both my date and I had a great time and have plans to return.

UPDATE: Went to 2a2 again last night. Not as much fun on the first floor (music, dance, drinks) because it was so overcrowded. You can see how many people are there before you pay and last night we should have just left without going in. Later it thined out as people went to the second floor (swing) which actually was good. Some hot girls and interesting action. Except for the crowding on the first floor, another good time.

RxHammer
01-13-07, 18:48
Guys,

I used www.flycheapabroad.com for this trip (I´m in Rio Now) and the ticket was $725 incl taxes on United. Cheapest I have seen in a LONG time. Granted, it was hit and miss while I was searching this site. Some days the fare was over $1,400 the next day ???? So I tried several departures and return dates til I got this price....

Hope this helps...

Hammer

PS My ticket was roundtrip Phoenix-Rio.....

DFWdude
01-14-07, 18:17
Last time I was in Rio, I noticed a strip club/adult theater next to the balcony bar. My gut feeling is it was a rip off joint. So I did not go in. I am planning my next Rio trip for May....

Exec Talent
01-14-07, 18:48
Last time I was in Rio, I noticed a strip club/adult theater next to the balcony bar. My gut feeling is it was a rip off joint. So I did not go in. I am planning my next Rio trip for May....

My date and I went in about a month ago. The cover was R$60 which included two drinks. We were there to see the live sex show. After about 10 minutes and one really fat ugly girl after another, my date wanted to leave. I never argue with her when she is right (and rarely when she is wrong). The place was almost vacant with one asian guy trying to extract himself from an especially gross and persistent girl.

As we say, I took one for the team here. No reason for anyone else to even think about going into this place. If you have friends who do not read this board and are visiting Rio, make sure they know to avoid Holiday Bar next to Balcony.

Exec Talent
01-14-07, 19:04
Speaking of rip-offs…

Right up there with taking cash advances on your credit card to finance your Rio trip, in the not-so-bright things people do department, is paying for someone to take you to a termas. I have seen this sight all too often lately and all I have to say is “Just DON’T do it.” All I ever see a “guide” do is bring them through the door, explain the prices to them, give them a tour of the facility, smoke smelly cigars and laugh to themselves about what a fool they are. Hello! The receptionists in all of these places speak English, prices are prominently displayed, you can walk around yourself or ask the receptionist to show you around and you won’t feel like a fool when your realize you have just been taken for more of a ride than the apartment rental company that charged you R$75 for the R$45 ride from the airport.

BubbaBoy has compiled a guide with enough information on the major termases to get you there and even includes information on what to do once you are inside. You do not need to pay some loser desperately trying to suck the blood out of another gringo to take you there. To me it is like paying someone to walk your pet rock.

UPDATE: I ran into another one of these "guides" last night. I almost lost my dinner listening to him laying it on thick with yet another gullible tourist about how much he could do for him. It is hard for me to believe that what seem to be otherwise intelligent people pay these losers $300+ (that is dollars) a week for their “Services.” I am going to do my part to help make these people go away by putting up a free web site describing how useless they are and providing links to legitimate resources. I hope these guys still remember how to sell used cars back in the US. (If I come across like I really despise scammers and leeches there is a reason -- I do).

Funny Side Note: While doing some research I came across one of the guide sites. Interestingly the S was replaced with $ ($ervice). I guess because that is what they really care about.

Kid Cisco
01-15-07, 04:39
Speaking of rip-offs…

Right up there with taking cash advances on your credit card to finance your Rio trip, in the not-so-bright things people do department, is paying for someone to take you to a termas. I have seen this sight all too often lately and all I have to say is “Just DON’T do it.” All I ever see a “guide” do is bring them through the door, explain the prices to them, give them a tour of the facility, smoke smelly cigars and laugh to themselves about what a fool they are. Hello! The receptionists in all of these places speak English, prices are prominently displayed, you can walk around yourself or ask the receptionist to show you around and you won’t feel like a fool when your realize you have just been taken for more of a ride than the apartment rental company that charged you R$75 for the R$45 ride from the airport.

BubbaBoy has compiled a guide with enough information on the major termases to get you there and even includes information on what to do once you are inside. You do not need to pay some loser desperately trying to suck the blood out of another gringo to take you there. To me it is like paying someone to walk your pet rock.I agree 100% with this post, I been posting for what it seems like forever about this very same topic there NO need to pay these P.I.M.P.S./"guides" !! to show you around to places you can find alone from websites (posts, reports, or from guys that are hanging around Mia P. etc) for FREE!

Save your $$$$ for the girls.

Kid Cisco

Exec Talent
01-15-07, 16:23
The taxi who took me home from a termas the other day handed me a brochure for what he said was a new one in centro called:

Le Palace
Rua do Mercado 25 Centro Prc XV
Em frente ao predio da Bolsa de Valores
2507-5720

According to the brochure it has sauna, suites with jacuzzis and strip shows. It is open from 3PM - 1AM.

Anyone have any experience?

Fredo24
01-16-07, 09:19
I was in Rio for a day in November. As I only had Sunday night, the only termas I could go to was L'Uomo. Which was the one I wanted to go to anyway, having read Bubba's report.

I did have some trouble finding it, even though Bubba's directions are totally correct. What I hadn't realized from his report however was that the entrance to L'Uomo is indeed on the first floor of a mall but on the outside of the building.
Receptionists were two giggly girls who had excellent English and explained everything very nicely.

Changing rooms and showers were excellent, although I found the relax room somewhat cold.

Unfortunately, the rest of the experience was a bit of a disappointment. When I entered the boite around 9 PM, there were only about 10 girls present and maybe just as many men. Maybe because it was Sunday? I didn't want to sit around and drink too much, so I soon sat down next to a brunette whose name (I think) was Isabella. Didn't speak a word of English, and I don't speak Portuguese, only some broken Spanish. She had a very nice body and face though. We tried to chat for 30 minutes or so and then went to a cabine. The cabine I had was too hot and the girl's performance was so so. She had told me she hadn't been working there for a long time, and maybe for once this was true. Or maybe it was just me (although not plain ugly I am no Don Juan either and over 40).

Back in the boite I talked for a little while to another much more lively girl whose English was excellent, but I was spent.

I am going back to Rio next week and need to decide between going back to L'Uomo or giving 4x4 a try (or do both - I have a few more days). Any feedback appreciated.
By the way, I will be staying in the Meridien. Anyone knows of a pharmacia nearby?

Bubba Boy
01-16-07, 19:10
I was at Lúomo last week. The talent was ok, nothing special. Julie was still there, she is a smoking hot Morena. Babi is also nice, will do anything, lighter skin and blond. Ingrid of course is always good and is still there. Being a smallish terma the talent can be hit and miss. Was also at 4x4 last week, found the talent a little lacking but with 100+ girls you will find something.

I don't know how many days you have or what days you have but if you have 3 days I would do this.

Day 1) (depending on the day). Lúomo again. It is best Tuesday to Friday. Check it out early, around 5 and you will see the most girls. If there is nothing you like you can always jump on the metro and go to 4x4. Lúomo is right on the metro station. Or you could go to Monte Carlo, it is 1 block over from Lúomo, and about 3 blocks closer to the beach, which puts it right on the beach, a 5 minute walk.

Day 2) Check out something new, maybe centaraus or Solarium or Monte/4x4 if you got stuck at Lúomo for the night.

Day 3) Go back to the place you like.

Try all places because you are only in Rio a few days and the entrance to each place is only $25 or so ($50 for Centaraus). Hence don't be afraid to try one place and walk out and try another on the same day. You are a long time dead, enjoy yourself now when you have the chance.

Beach Star
01-16-07, 20:04
The taxi who took me home from a termas the other day handed me a brochure for what he said was a new one in centro called:

Le Palace
Rua do Mercado 25 Centro Prc XV
Em frente ao predio da Bolsa de Valores
2507-5720

According to the brochure it has sauna, suites with jacuzzis and strip shows. It is open from 3PM - 1AM.

Anyone have any experience?This is an old termas that has been cosed for reform for some time and has just opened for business. I heard that the owners are foreign, maybe American

Aunsa
01-16-07, 23:39
Hey!

Greetings! Hope everyone is having a great start to 2007!

Anyway, i was wondering if anyone has any info or photos of a girl called Samather working at Club 400 in Barra. She has not been working there since Sept of 2006, but worked there fore 2 years. She is around 25, please PM if anyone had her or knows where she is (another place or even Europe?)

Also, i have a Sony Vaio Laptop for sale, and was wondering where is the best place in Rio to sell your laptop. I need to sell it as i have 3 now and its just to much. It cost me over 3000 US Dollars, so its the top spec TX3 model. If anyone can help me, i will buy them a drink in Rio! Please PM with info or if you know anyone that is looking for one.

Also, just to advise, i was in Caxis the other day, just outside Rio, and there is a place could Club 137, its 10 REALS for 10mins, cheap but the talent was very bad!

Urcarioca
01-17-07, 03:59
Just got back from Luomo.

I heard a lot of buzz telling Luomo is becoming a low-end place.

I just check it out tonight: still a nice terma with new robes, new chairs in the relax, diner (so and so) and really nice girls.

I tried the 2 hot showers and they were working well, they didn't overcharge the drinks and no pressure from the GDP at all.

IMHO, they were a bunch of 6-7 and i saw three 9's.

I still recommend it for the newbies, expensive though.

PS: I miss Shayla, Sheila, Michelle.

Infamous1
01-17-07, 04:22
Everybody keeps talking about 4x4, Luomo, Monte Carlo, and Centaurus. The the problem is I cant find an exact address or location where these places are. Everyone talks about being there, but now how to find it or where it is. Please help. I'll be staying in Copacabana on Rua Santa Clara, so I'm not too sure how far these places are according to my apartment. Any information on how to get to these places is extremely helpful.

Bubba Boy
01-17-07, 05:13
I don't think you are looking hard enough.

All the addresses are here
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2191&page=2&pp=15

Scroll down to "part 2" for Terma addresses.

Santa Clara is a great spot, closest Terma is Lúomo, just a few blocks away. Monte Carlo just another 2 or so blocks from that. Centaraus also quite close, jump in a taxi though - R10. 4x4 is in centro, not that close but worth the trip.

Amerioca
01-17-07, 05:32
I was in Rio for a day in November. As I only had Sunday night, the only termas I could go to was L'Uomo. Which was the one I wanted to go to anyway, having read Bubba's report.

I did have some trouble finding it, even though Bubba's directions are totally correct. What I hadn't realized from his report however was that the entrance to L'Uomo is indeed on the first floor of a mall but on the outside of the building.
Receptionists were two giggly girls who had excellent English and explained everything very nicely.

Changing rooms and showers were excellent, although I found the relax room somewhat cold.

Unfortunately, the rest of the experience was a bit of a disappointment. When I entered the boite around 9 PM, there were only about 10 girls present and maybe just as many men. Maybe because it was Sunday? I didn't want to sit around and drink too much, so I soon sat down next to a brunette whose name (I think) was Isabella. Didn't speak a word of English, and I don't speak Portuguese, only some broken Spanish. She had a very nice body and face though. We tried to chat for 30 minutes or so and then went to a cabine. The cabine I had was too hot and the girl's performance was so so. She had told me she hadn't been working there for a long time, and maybe for once this was true. Or maybe it was just me (although not plain ugly I am no Don Juan either and over 40).

Back in the boite I talked for a little while to another much more lively girl whose English was excellent, but I was spent.

I am going back to Rio next week and need to decide between going back to L'Uomo or giving 4x4 a try (or do both - I have a few more days). Any feedback appreciated.
By the way, I will be staying in the Meridien. Anyone knows of a pharmacia nearby?

I don't think it would hurt to visit any of the t's in Rio. Women are arriving on a daily basis for Carnival. From this point on, it can only get better us. Don't forget to check out Help too!

Ask the front desk for the location of a pharmacy. They are dime a dozen in the Copa area. I can't imagine walking more than two blocks before encountering one.

Perkele
01-17-07, 06:25
Hey!

Also, i have a Sony Vaio Laptop for sale, and was wondering where is the best place in Rio to sell your laptop. I need to sell it as i have 3 now and its just to much. It cost me over 3000 US Dollars, so its the top spec TX3 model. If anyone can help me, i will buy them a drink in Rio! Please PM with info or if you know anyone that is looking for one.



That might be a bit tricky. You do know that brasilians are broke. Well try through BALCAO, which is local newspaper for selling used stuff. Only thing is that I doubt that you ever will be able to sell your laptop, because nobody will pay to you the price you paid for it. You may get R$ 3000 if you're really lucky. You do know that brasilians buy everything in installments, so finding someone with cash..... Well good luck.

Pipe Layer99
01-17-07, 06:26
I was in Rio for a day in November. As I only had Sunday night, the only termas I could go to was L'Uomo.

I am going back to Rio next week and need to decide between going back to L'Uomo or giving 4x4 a try (or do both - I have a few more days). Any feedback appreciated.



Since you already saw Luomo, try another one. In my opinion 4 x 4 is great.
There are so many good looking women there you can't go wrong. They have all shapes and sizes - something for everyone.
Don't forget about the other termas either (Monte Carlo, Solarium, Terma65, Terma 502, etc). I wish I was going next week, I'd take you to them.
It would be great to see that kid in a candy store look on your face when you see the girls and when you come back from the room.

Have fun. DD

Exec Talent
01-17-07, 06:41
Airfare: $1000
Hotel/Apartment one week: $800
Entrance Fee/Program for 40 minutes: $125
Travelling 10 hours for 6 and 7s at L'uomo – Over priced

Even Ingrid and Bia are starting to show the signs of years of wear and tear. The new girls being added collectively might be a 6. I do however agree that Julie is as fine as you will find anywhere at any price. But she can only service so many customers.

Mr Enternational
01-17-07, 06:52
I was in Rio for a day in November. As I only had Sunday night, the only termas I could go to was L'Uomo. I am going back to Rio next week and need to decide between going back to L'Uomo or giving 4x4 a try (or do both - I have a few more days). Any feedback appreciated.I swear by 4X4. But next time you go to Luomo get Ingrid. She squirts!

I know this isn't the photo gallery but here are a few 4X4 pics.

P.S. You should see the movie!

Mangera
01-17-07, 13:44
Ex. Talent, or for that matter, has anyone in this forum banged Sheyla( Not sure of the spelling of her name.)? She has worked there for at least a year, she is tall, blonde hair, smiles quite a bit, and loves to dance. She has a wonderful body. I am wondering if she is as wild in the sack as she is outside in the bar area. It seems that she is the only regret that I have from my past visit to Luomos.

Exec Talent
01-17-07, 13:49
Ex. Talent, or for that matter, has anyone in this forum banged Sheyla( Not sure of the spelling of her name.)? She has worked there for at least a year, she is tall, blonde hair, smiles quite a bit, and loves to dance. She has a wonderful body. I am wondering if she is as wild in the sack as she is outside in the bar area. It seems that she is the only regret that I have from my past visit to Luomos.

She is no longer there.

Bravo
01-17-07, 20:00
Mr Enternational, I give you huge props for bringing a video camera into the suite. Ive never known anyone to ever do that before. Did you have to pay them extra for the filming?

How old are these pics because one of those girls hasnt been in 4x4 for quite a while. Great pics, I am sure the video is crazy!!

The Watcher
01-17-07, 20:18
She is no longer there.

When did she leave? Do you know where she went or if she will be back?

I saw her in early December - I guess I will just have to live on memories.

Benjoe
01-17-07, 20:19
Ex. Talent, or for that matter, has anyone in this forum banged Sheyla( Not sure of the spelling of her name.)? She has worked there for at least a year, she is tall, blonde hair, smiles quite a bit, and loves to dance. She has a wonderful body. I am wondering if she is as wild in the sack as she is outside in the bar area. It seems that she is the only regret that I have from my past visit to Luomos.In my mind, her most unique move was that she sucked stronger than any vacum cleaner. But it wasn't enough to make me repeat.

El Apodo
01-17-07, 23:46
Ex. Talent, or for that matter, has anyone in this forum banged Sheyla( Not sure of the spelling of her name.)? She has worked there for at least a year, she is tall, blonde hair, smiles quite a bit, and loves to dance. She has a wonderful body. I am wondering if she is as wild in the sack as she is outside in the bar area. It seems that she is the only regret that I have from my past visit to Luomos.I've done Sheila (that's the correct spelling according to the Luomos printout, of course it's pronounced SHAY-la) and she is a blast in the cabine. She's completa and a little like the energizer bunny - keeps going and going. If my memory serves me correctly, I can't remember a regular session that she didn't pull two loads out of me. However, I think she's almost TOO skinny, but that's just my taste. She wasn't there during my last visit.

EA

Amerioca
01-18-07, 01:46
Airfare: $1000
Hotel/Apartment one week: $800
Entrance Fee/Program for 40 minutes: $125
Travelling 10 hours for 6 and 7s at L'uomo – Over priced


My 2006 airfare average was around $800, and that's flying from SNA (Santa Ana, CA), usually a 14 hour flight w/two stops. In the past four years, there has only been one instance in which I paid over 1k, around 1.2k, and it was last minute flight in mid-Dec.

It is unfair to group hotels and apts. in the same price catagory. In fact, your est. cost could easily be cut in half by renting a clean apt. from Kenn, Don, and the likes.

As for fees, most putarias in Zona Sul have similar in pricing structures and costs. Significant savings can be found in VM...if anyone dares ;-)

Rating attractiveness is always a subjective matter. Standards of evaluation differ for each man. I do consider one's atttitude in my criteria for the selection process.

My most recent LM experience was more enjoyable and pleasurable vs. MC. I found the LM menininas more attractive. Although I did cabine at MC, it took some time for selection. Nothing really stuck out at me there.

Mr Enternational
01-18-07, 10:32
Mr Enternational, I give you huge props for bringing a video camera into the suite. Ive never known anyone to ever do that before. Did you have to pay them extra for the filming?

How old are these pics because one of those girls hasnt been in 4x4 for quite a while. Great pics, I am sure the video is crazy!!Nope. I didn't pay any extra. My friend actually taught me the trick. I just go into the boite with my Nike gym sack with the cameras and pen and paper and my telephone inside. You can arrange it with the girls beforehand but I hardly ever do. I really figure that everyone already knows what is in the bag. Then when you get to the room just whip the cameras out. They usually love it.

Once I had a problem with a girl who didn't want me to take pictures but I started snapping anyway. This was after the deed was done. Then she went to get security. I already had my robe on so I headed back to the boite. I passed security on the way. They saw I wasn't in the room and like 5 minutes later they were calling my number over the loudspeaker to come to the front desk. But it was no problem because the girls behind the desk know me and I always whip out this picture of when I was in school there and did some work at Petrobras. That picture always gets me out of jams. The manager asked what I had in my bag and I showed him. I even showed him the pictures in my camera but I was smart enough not to flip to the ones that I had just taken.

Langer
01-18-07, 15:58
Well I just got back from Sao Paulo yesterday and I decided to go to Luomo.
I was disappointed, it has gone downhill, the girls were average, the excellent massage woman has gone to work in Rio Antigo. I won't be going back there for a while.

One thing I notice is that the Sao Paulo clubs are much better in terms of quality, although they are more expensive. I don't want to get into all the SP vs Rio stuff but I use to think Rio was so cool now after a few years in both cities I think Sao Paulo has much better looking girls.

Mangera
01-19-07, 02:07
As for the Massage Lady that you mentioned left Luomos for Rio Antigo. Is it Jacqueline?

Mangera
01-19-07, 02:16
as for sheila being an energizer bunny, that is what i found so appealing about the idea of getting her tight ass in the cabina. its as if though i looked foward to breaking down that wild horse. unfortunately, i did not get the chance, i was too busy with ingrid.

sheila and another friend of hers, just went to town on a friend of mine who had no idea what he was getting himself into once he walked inside the cabina with those two garotas. they just broke him down(lol), as he explained it, it was more of a comedy show. all three were wrestling and as he would fend of the other, sheila would bite his ass, then they had him pinned and they made a mohawk with his hair, among other happennings. it was was unreal, and at the end he just realized he got raped, lol. sheila just doesn't stop comming at you. sad to hear she has not been seen lately.

Pipe Layer99
01-19-07, 07:20
You guys know all too well certain ladies at Luomos. I hope you guys also went to the other termas. I never got the chance to visit the place.
My 1st terma was 4x4 and I found the girl of my dreams there (about 4-5 times). Each time there were some great (asses) ladies to choose from.
In fact, after my initial visit, I went back the next day to find one in particular. Found her. It was my last night in Rio, so I told her to find a friend so we can really have some fun. And we did. The girls name was Daisy.

This reminds me of a PM I sent to a fellow monger. So I'll also put it here. On my Nov trip, I visited and had a good time at T502. Paid R10, which also got me 2 beers. The girls there let me rub their bodies freely. I fingered two honeys and sucked on some nips. Get this - after all that, I left and walked to 4x4. I made a deal to get some take out at 502 around midnight.

So I went to Quatro por Quatro, found my 9 and had fun for 40 minutes. Then sure enough, just after midnight, my sweet 7 called from 502. I changed quickly and walked back to meet her. Grabbed a cab and off we went back to the apt. Got TLN for R150. Although she was a 7 body wise, she gave a real GFE. She was sweet, sexy, and gave me everything I wanted. Then we did it all over again in the morning. After the showers I walked her outside to get a cab and guess what? She did not ask for cab fare - what a surprise! We said our good-byes, she got in and left. Not like the money hungry hos in Copa taking your few reals you left laying around the place. Anyway, great experience from a 502 Babe.
Her name is Suzi. She has caramel color skin, nice curves, and stands about
5' 10 "

Donnie D

Exec Talent
01-20-07, 12:09
Was talking with a guy last night who told me he had just been to L'uomo and had been going there for years. He left in 30 minutes without having a session because the talent was so bad.

Another guy I talked to told me he tried to pay the girl's fee with a Debit card (he didn't want to carry cash with him there -- not the safest area). They couldn't get the machine to process his card so he had to use his Credit card to pay for the girl. He had two 40 minute sessions and they charged him an extra R$20 for each one (R$40) for using his credit card. They told him the reason it was so much was that they pay the girl immediately. I know for a fact that is a lie and that they pay once a week unlike some other Termases. He is another guy who said he is never going back.

Member #4217
01-20-07, 12:45
Had 2 VM girls stay with me for the past couple weeks, R100 per night.

One left a couple days ago, and the other yesterday. Called another VM girl yesterday, after she left, and she was here last night, R100.

One of my othjer girls called this morning and is coming to talk to me later. I am sure she wants back into the apartment.

Maybe!

Bit, I will have some photos up soon.

t&j

Jose Lima
01-20-07, 18:07
Was talking with a guy last night who told me he had just been to L'uomo and had been going there for years. He left in 30 minutes without having a session because the talent was so bad.

Another guy I talked to told me he tried to pay the girl's fee with a Debit card (he didn't want to carry cash with him there -- not the safest area). They couldn't get the machine to process his card so he had to use his Credit card to pay for the girl. He had two 40 minute sessions and they charged him an extra R$20 for each one (R$40) for using his credit card. They told him the reason it was so much was that they pay the girl immediately. I know for a fact that is a lie and that they pay once a week unlike some other Termases. He is another guy who said he is never going back.

I agree not only with this post but also that Rio has really gone downhill. I had taken about 25 trips to rio from 2000 to 2004. After that I started going to Sao paulo for business. I descovered that the talent was top notch but the prices were also. I would always tell my colleges how great Rio was and they would just laugh and say how shitty the women were. I decided to go to rio last week after 2 weeks in sao paulo. Maybye it was because i had not been there in a long time but it was horrible. The women were ugly, chubby or had very bad skin. It was very disapointing. They were all bascailly gringo hunting piranhas. I went to Help which was a great place 2-3 years ago, now its a real shit hole.

I have to go to rio occasionally to visit my in-laws, but i think my days or ***** mongering in Rio are long gone. There are some great regulars clubs in barra that are new and the new shearton in barra is great also. Rios to damn violent also. Its like a warzone there

Off Road
01-20-07, 20:52
Its like a warzone there
Where is the warzone exactly? I have not seen it in the tourist areas. For sure there is petty crime, but I would not say a warzone (middle east is warzone). The police and trafficants do have battles, but those are mostly seen on the news.
I would not want to scare off any mongers thinking they are going to Iraq when going to Rio. I think you can read through the various threads and see what actually goes on.

I lived in Sao Paulo for 4 years and now in Rio. You can actually find the same grils working both places, they come to Rio during the holidays to work.
I was just with a nice Paulista that I met in Help, she had a great body, nice face and good personality, sex was great too. So I would not say it is a shit hole and all the women are ugly and SP is the place to go.. But each his own opinion. We have plenty of photos..

StudlyHungwell
01-21-07, 03:56
Hey all you morons out there ,

I have been chasing pussy for 20 years all over the world and found 3 paradises.

1) Most beach resorts in Thailand

2) Cartagena and Medellin Colombia

3) Rio ( which is why I'm going back )

I'm personaly an ass man and if anyone can tell me a better place in the world to watch and pound young hard asses than the beaches of Rio, I would eat your shit.

Just go to google and type in Brazilan asses. (enough said)

Dick N Cider
01-21-07, 04:19
PEOPLE'S DAILY ONLINE

In an unprecedented step, Brazil and Argentina have decided to use their own currencies instead of US dollars in bilateral trade from mid-2007, the Brazilian government announced on Thursday.

The national banks of both currencies had designed a model to carry out bilateral trade without the American currency, Brazilian Minister Guido Mantega said on the sidelines of a ministeral meeting of the Common Market of the South (Mercosur).
Mantega also hoped the block's smaller partners, Paraguay and Uruguay would join the new system.

The ministeral meeting took place ahead of a Mercosur summit scheduled for Thursday and Friday in Rio de Janeiro.

On Dec.15, the economy ministers and bank governors from both countries signed a protocol on bilateral trade in local currencies, a system which Mantega said would go through an adaptation phase.

"In a meeting carried out nearly one month ago we had the intention to have other countries share the systems initiated by Brazil and Argentina," Mantega said.
"We are going to discuss this issue and to get acquainted with their (Paraguay and Uruguay) objections because this is not mandatory," he added.

Mercosur has four fully-fledged members:Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay and Uruguay. Venezuela is working it's way to full membership. Chile, Bolivia, Ecuador, Peru and Colombia are associate members.

Source:Xinhua

Amerioca
01-21-07, 04:35
Was talking with a guy last night who told me he had just been to L'uomo and had been going there for years. He left in 30 minutes without having a session because the talent was so bad.

Another guy I talked to told me he tried to pay the girl's fee with a Debit card (he didn't want to carry cash with him there -- not the safest area). They couldn't get the machine to process his card so he had to use his Credit card to pay for the girl. He had two 40 minute sessions and they charged him an extra R$20 for each one (R$40) for using his credit card. They told him the reason it was so much was that they pay the girl immediately. I know for a fact that is a lie and that they pay once a week unlike some other Termases. He is another guy who said he is never going back.

Since your incident with the gerente in the relax room, you have tenaciously posted negative feedback and/or responses on LM. Even stating that you wish to remove any and all positive posts you have said in the past years. Your change of heart was a dumbfounding at first, however, I suspect there is more to your story than what you have stated to us.

As for safety matters, I have yet to hear of and/or personally experience any crimes committed against gringos in the immediate area. By stating, "not the safest area," infers it is the worst area to be in. I believe the safety assessment made is biased, unfair, and without foundation. Most crimes are committed against gringos within a several block radius of Help, not R. Siqueira Campos/R. Toneleros.

Rio Bob
01-21-07, 15:30
Since your incident with the gerente in the relax room, you have tenaciously posted negative feedback and/or responses on LM. Even stating that you wish to remove any and all positive posts you have said in the past years. Your change of heart was a dumbfounding at first, however, I suspect there is more to your story than what you have stated to us.

Good observation, maybe it has something to do with this:



Speaking of ugly, ever since it got out that I am now doing business in Brazil, all the employees at L'uomo keep asking me for jobs. They really hate the manager or should I say, mismanager.

Exec Talent
01-21-07, 16:24
Let me give you an analogy (I love analogies. They afford simple minds a slight chance of understanding rudimentary concepts that most people grasp without any difficulty).

In one of the cities where I maintain a residence my favorite ethnic restaurant posts on their marquee (that is the sign out front Rio Bob) an excerpt of the favorable review they received in the local paper. I am sure the reviewer has no problem with this and I suspect even recommends the restaurant to people privately.

Now let’s say that the quality at the restaurant drops and the management spends more time following employees around telling them everything they are doing wrong instead of supporting their customer service efforts. Now the food is lousy, the best employees have left and those remaining have bad attitudes. Since business is down, the manager naturally decides that the thing to do is to raise prices and see if he can milk the few remaining customers for as much as possible.

The reviewer becomes aware of this (hope you are staying with me Rio Bob) and no longer wants his name associated with previous positive review. He further feels obligated to let people know the restaurant has changed for the worse.

Leave the conspiracy theories to Oliver Stone. My previous reviews of L’uomo were very positive. I even stated how I thought it was an extremely well run business. That has changed. Others have noted the departure of key employees as well as drop in quality.

Rio Bob if you actually make it to Rio sometime soon (before 2015) I will gladly buy you a beer. Many have noted that the information that you post is either outdated or just plain wrong. You seem to come here to this forum to relive memories rather than post firsthand reports.

Ardgneas
01-21-07, 19:23
I agree not only with this post but also that Rio has really gone downhill. I had taken about 25 trips to rio from 2000 to 2004. After that I started going to Sao paulo for business. I descovered that the talent was top notch but the prices were also. I would always tell my colleges how great Rio was and they would just laugh and say how shitty the women were. I decided to go to rio last week after 2 weeks in sao paulo. Maybye it was because i had not been there in a long time but it was horrible. The women were ugly, chubby or had very bad skin. It was very disapointing. They were all bascailly gringo hunting piranhas. I went to Help which was a great place 2-3 years ago, now its a real shit hole. Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose!!

I spent approx 15 months in Rio in 2001-2002 spending well over 100 nights in Help. Hung out with a guy from the UK who has down there been 6 months a year since 1992. He used to complain in the same way as you did in the post above, "it was much better in the old days" etc.. I think a lot of this is down to the fact that initially Rio blows your mind but over time the palate becomes jaded and you start turning girls down for trivial reasons. These are still women that have newbies slavering over them much as we did when we were newbies. I first went to Help in 1997 and paid $100 for a TLN which is more than I pay now or ever paid in 2001-2. In other words there will always be newbies for the piranhas and even in Copa always bargains to be had if your firm, pleasant and know the scene.

Rio Bob
01-21-07, 19:54
Rio Bob if you actually make it to Rio sometime soon (before 2015) I will gladly buy you a beer. Many have noted that the information that you post is either outdated or just plain wrong. You seem to come here to this forum to relive memories rather than post firsthand reports.

I'm sorry that my post bothered you but I have to agree with the other poster that your constant bashing of L'Uomo is very suspect and that you have an ulterior motive.

I also thought that I was on your ignore list as you told me because my info is outdated.

I'm sorry that I don't have the current temperature of the water coming out of the showers in L'Uomo or for that matter how many showers are actually working on any particular day like you. Real tight work man, what would the Mongers on this board do without you?

Actually I was just in Rio several months ago and will be there next in a matter of just days. It's true I have been going to Rio a long time, since 1980 and have been there on 55 different occasions, I come to this site because I enjoy Rio, not to boast or be admired or to be top dog like you.

I'll be in Rio soon you can buy me a Red Bull and Black Label or better yet I'll buy you because I really want to see who you are..

El Austriaco
01-21-07, 20:10
As for safety matters, I have yet to hear of and/or personally experience any crimes committed against gringos in the immediate area. By stating, "not the safest area," infers it is the worst area to be in. I believe the safety assessment made is biased, unfair, and without foundation. Most crimes are committed against gringos within a several block radius of Help, not R. Siqueira Campos/R. Toneleros.
Let me quickly chime in regarding this issue, though also let me say immediately that I haven't been to Rio since April of 2006, so take it with a grain of salt. In any case, I think I do know the neighborhood very well, having lived there (two blocks from there, towards the Botafogo tunnel, very close to 2A2, as a matter of fact) for three-and-a-half months in 2004, another two months in 2005 and three months in 2006 (the last two times, on and off). Can't remember how many times I have walked around that area at all times during the day and sometimes at night. I have hung out quite a bit at the different barzinhos in the evenings (whether on Siqueira Campos or Figueiredo Magalhaes and the side streets), well, pretty much like a resident. I have spent enough time there that even local police greets me on the street.

Based on the above, here's what I think about safety: it's as good or as bad as it gets in Copacabana. Not better, not worse, but I have to agree, certainly not as bad as the area around Help (the gringo gulch) or Avda. Atlantica in general.

Before somebody says, "Hey, but it's pretty close to a favela, right?", yes, it is. That's why I said as good or bad as in Copacabana, considering that all of Copacabana is pretty close to one favela or another. As I mentioned in earlier reports, just across the street from L'Uomo on Siqueira Campos, you got the entrance to the Ladeira das Tabajeiras favela. Needless to say, you will do well staying clear from there.

For reasons of completeness, I thought I'd mention that there was one guy here on ISG, Charm City Dave, who I remember once reporting about getting robbed right in front of L'Uomo or coming from there. At the same time, that's the only such incident I have heard about.

Have I heard shootings coming from the favela? Yes, many times. Am I aware of any violence spilling over onto the asfalto? Just a few, isolated incidents. Back in August 2004, I remember that someone dropped a hand grenade onto Rua Barata Ribeiro, and once, a waiter was hit by a stray bullet from a police/bandido shootout. This wasn't from Ladeira das Tabajeiras, though, but from one of the favelas on Morro dos Cabritos. Not that this necessarily makes the area anything special: pretty much every area of Rio, good and bad, has had similar incidents in the past.

Even though I haven't been there for almost nine months or so right now, I feel pretty confident that this assessment is still accurate. I am constantly in touch with people at my hotel, some of who have become sort of trusted friends for me, and I am sure that if anything MAJOR happened in the neighborhood, I would hear about it. I also read O Globo online every single day, and considering that this area is not known for crime, incidents usually get reported quite reliably. And whenever I go, I talk to tons of neighbors, residents, waiters at nearby restaurants etc. etc. As you all know, Cariocas like to blow things out of proportion somewhat and shoot the breeze about how bad crime is getting, so the fact that I haven't heard anything really bad is sort of indicative to me. When I say nothing bad, I mean nothing worse than petty crime, car theft and some minor burglaries.

I have also taken the metro numerous times, without any problems whatsoever. Personally, I think that the metro is much safer than other types of transportation in Rio for tourists (considering the amount of surveillance, the amount of people taking it every day and the difficulty of spotting tourists in there. Just not the best bet for criminals). I have walked many times in the area late at night after taking the metro from centro, and I have never had any problem. It's just that the metro itself and the Siqueira Campos station and surrounding streets are pretty crowded.

The fact that the 19th Military Police Batallion is stationed right between the metro station and the mall where L'Uomo is located certainly also helps.

But the main difference I see between this area (the so-called Bairro Peixoto) and other areas of Copacabana is not random crime, which may happened pretty much anywhere. It is the way tourists gets targeted for crime, and considering that there are relatively few tourists in this area, certainly compared with Avenida Atlantica, there are simply few criminals preying on tourists. This would be my security assessment, based on my months of living there.

So is Rio a "war zone"? Not where you will likely tread as a tourist, though when the shit hits the fan, it sure can look like it for a while, and while pretty much limited to the Zona Norte, this may affect Zona Sul, too. We are talking about Copacabana, of course, not Bom Sucesso, Ramos, or Penha.

Is the Bairro Peixoto unsafer than other parts of Copacabana? I don't think so, though remember that nasty stuff can happen at a moment's notice in Rio, and yes, you are close to some bad areas... just like anywhere else in Rio. Now, if you go to Rio for a few days or a week, chances are it might look perfectly like the first world, yes. If you stay a few months, you will notice that yes, the third world is out there, sometimes in unbelievably close vicinity, and it has a tendency to jump on you when you least expect it. If you go to Rio, I guess you just have to accept that you are not in Tulsa, Oklahoma any more (thank God!), and that you truly leave the first world behind for a while.

Now the question is... can you deal with that? Because I guess things won't change any time soon. Always been like that, always will be like that. So no, Rio is not going downhill. It´s right there where it has always been.

EA

El Austriaco
01-21-07, 22:46
Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose!!

I spent approx 15 months in Rio in 2001-2002 spending well over 100 nights in Help. Hung out with a guy from the UK who has down there been 6 months a year since 1992. He used to complain in the same way as you did in the post above, "it was much better in the old days" etc.. I think a lot of this is down to the fact that initially Rio blows your mind but over time the palate becomes jaded and you start turning girls down for trivial reasons.
I have been meaning to write something like this for a long time, but you beat me to it. Sometimes I think that the reason Rio loses some of its luster is not because of anything changing in Rio, but in all of us.

The first time I went, it was just so magically different from anything I had ever experienced: the city, the beaches, the tropical flair, the music, the lifestyle. And of course, the girls, just like my wildest fantasy come true. And while I was not there, I guess my fantasies made it appear even better than it ever was, pushing it to a level that reality, however grand, will always fall short of. Rio just seemed so impossibly good that my imagination went haywire on me. And like with a drug, you keep coming back, and suddently, as you gain more experience and the novelty wears off, the hard reality of starts hitting you.

You start reminiscening that in the gold old days, it was perfectly safe to walk on the beach, snapping pictures of everything. Well, might have been that I just didn't know any better, and it was just as unsafe back then. Why does it seem that people were friendlier in my early days, less business-oriented, and the street vendors less bothersome. Well, maybe I was just lucky; and the truth is, cariocas are still very friendly, and perhaps now, in my memories, to fit into the picture I had of Rio, they just had to be perfect? And so it seems that the girls were sexier, prettier, more into the GFE, less money-hungry that they are now. Well, not really, just that back then, compared with any other place I had been, they were sexier, prettier, more fun, less hardcore than girls elsewhere, and now, they are just not sexier, pretty, more fun and less hardcore than the unreasonable standard of my own imagination.

It's the Jerry Rice syndrome: when he was getting up there in age, people kept complaining that he is just not gold ole Jerry anymore. I guess that's what happens when you set the gold standard. Memory isn't always kind to legends.

And no doubt about it, Rio is truly legendary to me.

EA

Urcarioca
01-22-07, 00:37
Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose!!Plus le temps passe et plus tu es un vieux con.

I think we are getting older and need a blue pill. I believe that all this stuff about "it was better in the good ol' days" is for old mongers in a wheel-chair.

O Rio continua lindo, when I read people complaining about massage, cold-showers in a terma, bad service, etc. I can recognize my grandpa (is 85 YO).

Zorglub
01-22-07, 01:41
Let me quickly chime in regarding this issue, though also let me say immediately that I haven't been to Rio since April of 2006, so take it with a grain of salt. In any case, I think I do know the neighborhood very well, having lived there (two blocks from there, towards the Botafogo tunnel, very close to 2A2, as a matter of fact) for three-and-a-half months in 2004, another two months in 2005 and three months in 2006 (the last two times, on and off). Can't remember how many times I have walked around that area at all times during the day and sometimes at night. I have hung out quite a bit at the different barzinhos in the evenings (whether on Siqueira Campos or Figueiredo Magalhaes and the side streets), well, pretty much like a resident. I have spent enough time there that even local police greets me on the street.

Based on the above, here's what I think about safety: it's as good or as bad as it gets in Copacabana. Not better, not worse, but I have to agree, certainly not as bad as the area around Help (the gringo gulch) or Avda. Atlantica in general.

Before somebody says, "Hey, but it's pretty close to a favela, right?", yes, it is. That's why I said as good or bad as in Copacabana, considering that all of Copacabana is pretty close to one favela or another. As I mentioned in earlier reports, just across the street from L'Uomo on Siqueira Campos, you got the entrance to the Ladeira das Tabajeiras favela. Needless to say, you will do well staying clear from there.

For reasons of completeness, I thought I'd mention that there was one guy here on ISG, Charm City Dave, who I remember once reporting about getting robbed right in front of L'Uomo or coming from there. At the same time, that's the only such incident I have heard about.

Have I heard shootings coming from the favela? Yes, many times. Am I aware of any violence spilling over onto the asfalto? Just a few, isolated incidents. Back in August 2004, I remember that someone dropped a hand grenade onto Rua Barata Ribeiro, and once, a waiter was hit by a stray bullet from a police/bandido shootout. This wasn't from Ladeira das Tabajeiras, though, but from one of the favelas on Morro dos Cabritos. Not that this necessarily makes the area anything special: pretty much every area of Rio, good and bad, has had similar incidents in the past.

Even though I haven't been there for almost nine months or so right now, I feel pretty confident that this assessment is still accurate. I am constantly in touch with people at my hotel, some of who have become sort of trusted friends for me, and I am sure that if anything MAJOR happened in the neighborhood, I would hear about it. I also read O Globo online every single day, and considering that this area is not known for crime, incidents usually get reported quite reliably. And whenever I go, I talk to tons of neighbors, residents, waiters at nearby restaurants etc. etc. As you all know, Cariocas like to blow things out of proportion somewhat and shoot the breeze about how bad crime is getting, so the fact that I haven't heard anything really bad is sort of indicative to me. When I say nothing bad, I mean nothing worse than petty crime, car theft and some minor burglaries.

I have also taken the metro numerous times, without any problems whatsoever. Personally, I think that the metro is much safer than other types of transportation in Rio for tourists (considering the amount of surveillance, the amount of people taking it every day and the difficulty of spotting tourists in there. Just not the best bet for criminals). I have walked many times in the area late at night after taking the metro from centro, and I have never had any problem. It's just that the metro itself and the Siqueira Campos station and surrounding streets are pretty crowded.

The fact that the 19th Military Police Batallion is stationed right between the metro station and the mall where L'Uomo is located certainly also helps.

But the main difference I see between this area (the so-called Bairro Peixoto) and other areas of Copacabana is not random crime, which may happened pretty much anywhere. It is the way tourists gets targeted for crime, and considering that there are relatively few tourists in this area, certainly compared with Avenida Atlantica, there are simply few criminals preying on tourists. This would be my security assessment, based on my months of living there.

So is Rio a "war zone"? Not where you will likely tread as a tourist, though when the shit hits the fan, it sure can look like it for a while, and while pretty much limited to the Zona Norte, this may affect Zona Sul, too. We are talking about Copacabana, of course, not Bom Sucesso, Ramos, or Penha.

Is the Bairro Peixoto unsafer than other parts of Copacabana? I don't think so, though remember that nasty stuff can happen at a moment's notice in Rio, and yes, you are close to some bad areas... just like anywhere else in Rio. Now, if you go to Rio for a few days or a week, chances are it might look perfectly like the first world, yes. If you stay a few months, you will notice that yes, the third world is out there, sometimes in unbelievably close vicinity, and it has a tendency to jump on you when you least expect it. If you go to Rio, I guess you just have to accept that you are not in Tulsa, Oklahoma any more (thank God!), and that you truly leave the first world behind for a while.

Now the question is... can you deal with that? Because I guess things won't change any time soon. Always been like that, always will be like that. So no, Rio is not going downhill. It´s right there where it has always been.

EA


EA,

I think your assesment of crime in Copacabana is completely right.This is exactly the way I see it.

Pelicano
01-22-07, 12:54
last Friday night I finaly made it to termas excentric in Niteroi. Open from about 6 PM until the party ends. It was just 20 reais for the entrance fee, which includes 5 draft beers, cabine 45 minutes 100 reais, suite 1 hour 125 reais. It is located on rua da Conceicao 132 and to get there from Rio, take the barcas at Praca 15 and once in Niteroi go across the avenue in front of the barcas and one block to the left the street begins and about 2 blocks ahead, it is on the right side of the street. The entrance is a little difficult to find as it is a narow stairway going up to the second floor.

No robes are required, has a great party atmosphere, playing funk, live strip show with guests participating and about 20 or more non pushy garotas, which will actualy tell you no if they do not feel like going with you (my local friend actualy got turned down by a fake loira). Mostly morenas and mulatas only a couple of fake blonds. Patrons are mostly middle class brasilians and I didn't notice any gringoes around except myself.

We got there about midnight and stayed until 5 AM, spent several hours just trying to finish off the 5 choppes allowed with the entrance fee. After several hours of flirting, dancing, evaluating and narrowing down my choices, I picked Emanuelle; A mulata to die for at about 5'10", double D natural, which I couldn't believe, untill after further inspection in the suite, a great shape bunda, silky smooth skin and could move only as a mulata can. She danced samba all over me and worked very hard for the whole hour. Take your own condoms at least as a backup plan, since the ones provided, tore very easily. She insisted I accept her phone number and gave me the hours in the afternoon when she is available before going to work. In all a very positive experience, but the logistic problems in getting there and back to Rio are to be considered, since the barcas only run til midnigt, you will miss the best of the party. I hope to investigate a nearby motel, Praia das Flexas, where one could spend the rest of the night in relatively safe condittions. Will return and see how the follow up experience compares to the initial one.

There is a low end place a couple of streets away from Excentric, with a Caixa Economica Federal bank on the ground floor, where the action starts at 2 PM and goes until 6 PM. Walk up the dirty stairs and look for the right doors to knock on, pricing is 1 real per minute and 10 reais for the room. Did not partake as Friday was payday for the low end customers and the apartments were all loaded with men, but very few actualy participating.

I will be going to Fortaleza on the 25th until the 1st of Feb. Send me a PM if interested in having an old geezer around, who speaks native brasilian portuguese.

Stay safe,

Pelicano

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Jose Lima
01-22-07, 14:36
Where is the warzone exactly? I have not seen it in the tourist areas. For sure there is petty crime, but I would not say a warzone (middle east is warzone). The police and trafficants do have battles, but those are mostly seen on the news.
I would not want to scare off any mongers thinking they are going to Iraq when going to Rio. I think you can read through the various threads and see what actually goes on.

I lived in Sao Paulo for 4 years and now in Rio. You can actually find the same grils working both places, they come to Rio during the holidays to work.
I was just with a nice Paulista that I met in Help, she had a great body, nice face and good personality, sex was great too. So I would not say it is a shit hole and all the women are ugly and SP is the place to go.. But each his own opinion. We have plenty of photos..

Are you serious??? petty theift. They called in the Army to combat the violance around the city. They torched more then 7 buses while i was there. There are police check points everywhere. The problem with Rio is that every freaking little neighborhood has a damn favela sitting next to it. You cant go anywhere to escape the crime. At least in Sao Paolo you can go about your daily life without seeing the poverty and voilance. It doesnt spill over into the streets of the tourist/wealthy neighborhoods. I also noticed some women in help from SP. Maybye its because there are about 1000 different options in SP and in RIo you have about 4. They more place to go makes the odds better to find a nice chick.

I am not trying to scare anyone from Rio, but the crime and violance just gets to close to the normal everyday people.

El Austriaco
01-22-07, 18:38
At least in Sao Paolo you can go about your daily life without seeing the poverty and voilance. It doesnt spill over into the streets of the tourist/wealthy neighborhoods.
Now, be serious. You mean to say that what happened in Rio at the end of last year wouldn't happen in SP? Let me walk down memory lane a bit for you:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4771455.stm

Let's see what the BBC had to say: "Overnight, gangs torched buses, targeted banks and maintained their attacks on police patrols and stations."

"On Monday morning, bus terminals and underground stations were closed amid fears of further attacks, making it impossible for many people to get to work. Many worried parents kept their children away from school".

"(...) Brazilian newspapers report that the federal government is eager to send troops to restore order."

Sounds like good old Rio, hm, really bad? But wait a minute, guys, I am not even talking about Rio. This was SP in May 2006, when actually like a 100 people got killed. You know, this was also ordered by drug-lords. Coincidentally, the same ones sitting in the Bangú high-security prision in Zona Oeste.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primeiro_Comando_da_Capital

On an interesting side note, that's why the Rio police has been transfering some of the trouble-makers to prisions out of state, to make the coordination of such highly orchestrated attacks more difficult.

You might also want to note that some of the more notorious favelas in Brazil are actually located in Sao Paulo.

EA

Willie Wonkers
01-22-07, 20:13
Sixteenth time in Brazil in 4 yrs. Been to most states and many remote areas, though mostly stay in Rio. I am somewhat younger so indulge in both the non-pro and pro scene. Prefer upscale places to monger if in Zona Sul (Ipanema, Leblon, Gavea, Barra). Never been to Help/rarely in Copa other than the Termas. L'uomo/Monte Carlo. Also like hanging with the natives at local places outside of Zona-Sul, including the favelas. If you know someone it is not so dangerous. Baile do funke (guys dancing with guns and really hot chick's can be really fun as long as you act cool and blend in). Have stayed in the favelas with some of the pros and non-pro's that I met in Rio, but I look Brazilian and speak fluent Brazilian portuguese. I have a slight preference to morenas with big bundas/corpon, then Loiras. No interest in mulatas. Did 16-20 girls in three states this trip. Lost count! Weather sucked this time. Rained 95% of the time over 3 weeks. New years eve. Black Eyed Peas on Ipanema beach was incredible though, even through the drizzle.

Stuck to the usual haunts this time, termas/messagems in rank order of hotties:

Rio:

Pro:

Centaurus (six girls in 3 visits)
65 (2 girls in 1 visit) - Loira with glasses is one of the hottest I have seen in Brazilian termas
Solarium (4 girls in 2 visits)
Flavia's Massagem - (only 3 girls available at the time I went - 6's & 7's - passed)
Monte Carlo (passed - nothing interesting after one hour)
Madureira train station (3 termas there - occasional hottie - room somewhat dirty - bring your own sheets if you can! - $R65 for 30 min)

Missed VM, L'uomo this time.

Non-pro:

Nuth (Mon)
Baronetti (tues/thurs)
Melt (Sat)
Guapo Loco (tues - Leblon; Weds - Barra)
Castello das Pedras (Sunday night funke dance club - predominantly non-pro's; fun to see them dance like in the termas)

Sao Paolo: visited almost all the massagems in Moema.

Oishii Massagems - 600 Rua Miruna, Moema -($R120 - outstanding value - many hotties - did 2 girls separately)
Francebel ($R200 - mechanical sex with Thais; the place is worth visiting just for the awe factor! - huge and very well done)
CelCenter ($R200 - slightly hotter chicks than Francebel - Thais also)
Love Story (terrible selection!!! - got ripped off by hot amazonian chick)

Missed Bahamas/Bombar this time.

Espirito Santos -

Meipe beach - some of the best non-pro's in Brazil (under 24 looking for men, few tourists - Mais club) -
Didn't do much of the pro scene here though went to White House termas (likely best views of the coastline out of any termas in Brazil) - 7.5 was the best I could find - slightly sleazy as Navy from the Phillipines and other parts of world dock and use the same termas - 60R - 30 min)

Overall this trip - felt that while the women were very attentive - they did not come (i.e get totally into it themselves like I have been used to in the past in Brazil) and felt a little more like pro's and less GFE at the termas/massagems. I must have been unlucky and chosen fairly veteran pro's. The best looking women that I saw were definitely more non-pro's than pro's at places like the airport, malls and some clubs. May focus more on the non-pro's and go pro intermittently when nothing else works out.

As far as the pro-scene goes, the concentration of hotties is higher in the more expensive places like Centaurus and 65 and some of the other termas, so if you are lazy or short on time - just go there. If you want to save $$$$ and have time - spend it looking through VM or the centro massagems. It is a lot like shopping at Neiman Marcus vs. Nordstrom Rack!

Willie

Jose Lima
01-22-07, 20:31
i was actually in sao paulo when that happened. i am not saying that sp is not just as dangerous. what i am saying is that if you are in the nicer areas youwill never see that type of voilance. in rj you can live in the best neighborhoods( barra, ipenema, leblom) and you are no more then 5 blocks from a favela, beggers, and dangerous people. the bad neighborhoods of sp are more centrilized and not rep001tered inbetween rich and middle class people.

if you have ever been to sp you know that if you are in a nice area such as jardins you can not see or hear a favela. there are people with nice cars mercedes bmw ferrari. rua oscar frio would give 5th avenue a run for its money. its like new york man. everything is more and better. rio has help, well sp has 20 helps. rio has 4x4 well sp has 200 4x4's.

listen bud i have lived in rio. in barra with my now wife for almost a year. i made over 25 mongering trips to rio. i loved rio and still do enjoy the beach and some hotels. but if your talking about safe streets, good food, great shopping, and most of all the most and best girls. then your talking about sp. plus most spots are fixed price which takes he bargining out of p4p

Dutch44
01-22-07, 23:44
Hi everyone,

I have just (january 2007) returned from Rio and spent a full week there, for the third time in 1 year. It is hard not to like or even totally love Rio. The sounds of brazilian portuguese mixed with the sounds of sea waves, the beach, the traffic, the wind. They stick with you. Ipanema and Copacabana are simply among the very best and most beautiful beaches on our planet. The people are generally very kind, the food is cheap, the weather is nice (yes I know it rained a lot lately) and then of course there are. The girls, the garotas. GDPs, almost too many of them.

I started reading this forum over 1 year ago and regularly read the news, the messages, the hints and tips and learned from them. Now, after my third trip to Rio, I feel I am ready to share some of my experiences with you. I am writing this from the perspective of a beginner and am trying to give some tips. I am not a Rio expert, but simply LOVE the place.

My first trips were last year (2006). They were nice enough for me to want to get back there real soon. (except for the time at midnight when I was robbed on Copa beach and three guys stole 21$ from me with a gun pointing to my chest) Anyway that was my own stupid fault. You live, you learn. I guess I missed that part of the messages on this forum :-)

1) Where to stay in Rio (Hotel or Apartment)

This time, january 2007 I decided to rent an apartment and not get a hotel. The hotels are quite expensive (70-100 US$ per day) and sometimes give you some trouble when you want to bring in girls. The advantage is that a girl has to register with her passport, so that is a kind of 'protection' because you know who she is in case something 'bad' happens. In the hotels however I felt less 'free' to do what I wanted when I wanted. So two months before I travelled this time, I found the website of Gringo managment, looked at the apartments on their website (www.gringomanagement.com) and reserved one in Ipanema. The price was US$65 per night. Single room with a nice kingsize bed. (and we DO want that, don't we!). When I arrived, I found that the neighboorhood I was staying in was ideal. It was close to the beach and a taxi ride to Copacabana was just 8 reais.

The apartment was clean, freshly painted and exactly what I needed. It had a bathroom, small kitchen, airco, television, a doorman etc. The service from Gringomanagement was really good, they were responsive to my questions and everything went exactly as agreed. Recommended!

The advantage of staying in an apartment building, I think, is that you can do what you want, when you want, and are still in a somewhat 'protected' area. You are behind a fence and people can not simply walk into your place. The doorman opens the fence for you, or you do it with your own keys. Man, I was happy. I had my own little home and could bring whoever I wanted and be in my own private space. By the way, I like to stay in Ipanema more than Copa. To me it feels safer, and Help and most of the other Copa places are still only 10 reais away (or less) by taxi.

2) Garotas: escort, termas or help?

Rio is actually full of beautiful garotas and there are probably thousands that want (or need) to make money by offering their special services. The average income of a 18-30 year woman in a shop, office or whatever, is around 350-500 reais ( US$ 160 to 230) if she is lucky to find a job at all. When she works in a termas, escort or at help, she may make that in a single day. I found that it really does not matter so much where you find a garota. (escort, etc.) Most of them I found were nice, sexy, young and hot. It is a mtter of taste of course, but I was rarely dissapointed. Speaking some basic portuguese (which I now do, sort of) does help a lot though!

Escort:

My advice to a beginner would be to try out a little of everything and then decide what you like best. I personally think one of the best 'bangs for the buck' are the escorts. You can spend 2 hours with a garota starting at just 100 reais + taxi. (karlamodels, scortshow, ciaplus, company girl). So that works out to about 125 reais during the day. During night (after 8 pm) the price is usually a little higher like, 130-150 reais for 2 hours. Before I went I looked up the telephone numbers of all the websites and picture on the websites, made notes of preferences and printed that out on paper. The first thing I did, two hours after arrival, was to call Karla models (www.karlamodels.net) They are the same company as scort show (www.scortshow.net). I asked for Thamires and she was available. Man, she is a beauty! An 8 to 9 on my personal scale of looks. She was kind and a little shy perhaps. She is a 19 year old morena. We talked a little and then I started off with massaging her, which she really liked. After that the rest followed and I was not dissappointed. So far I have never had a bad experience with the karla or scort agency. You choose the girl, give them your address and telephone number and usually the girl shows up in some 20-30 minutes. That evening I called again and asked for Bebel. She was less 'good looking' but still very sexy. In fact she put out more energy than Thamires and we had great fun. My experience is it seems that the more beautiful the girl is, the less she feels she needs to put out. The more 'average' looking girls are generally more kind, funny and put a lot of energy into the sex. Afterwards I tried Manuela, Juliane and Cintia from CIAPLUS. Manuela was average looking, but she spoke some english and felt like a real GFE. I enjoyed it much with her. She was new at the agency. Cintia was OK. Juliane was a young, nice looking young girl. Worked with the agency for only 4 days! 19 years old, nice personality and she loved my massages. (her busceta got real wet) Next day I asked for her again. I also tried Luiza from Company girl. She was 28 years old, had a nice face, but was too big for me. (overweight). I asked for a girl that could do a good massage, and that she could. Many of the girls at the escort services I was with were quite new, which I liked. They had not yet become 'real professional' at their job and still were spontaneous, almost next door type of girls. Apperently the Escort agencies get in new girls all the time.

Termas:

When you are in Rio you at least have try one or two termas, just for the experience. Termas are generally more expensive than the escort services. Typically you spend between 40 and 70 reais just to get in. Drinks are some 3-10 reais. Spending time with a girl is usually some 160-250 reais, room included, for about an hour. The advantage is however that you can see all the girsl and pick one. The pictures on a escort website may not tell you much or may be photoshopped in order to make a girl look better. I went to centaurus, just to have been there and see the place. Entry was 70 R$. At centaurus the girsl were certainly 'hot', but also 'professional'. I felt most them just wanted to do their thing, quickly and get their money and do the next. Prices at centaurus are high. I only looked around and left after 1 hour. My next experience was 4x4 (quatro por quatro) in Centro. This is quite far away from Copa/Ipanema, but well worth it. The place was packed with girls. (some 70) and there were at that time (7 pm) only some 40 man. I liked the girls there better. Most were as good looking as in centaurus, but nicer, not so pushy. You can talk to them for quite a while before you go to a room. Entry is 40$ and then I choose a standard room for 180 R$ for 1 hour. The girl was called Tatiana, a blond (dyed hair). She was sweet and sexy. Room was OK. The session was good. I have also been at termas aeroporto, but after seeing 4x4 I decided that so far this was my #1. Just a pity you have to travel fairly long to get there. (best is to take the metro) The address is Rua Buenos Aires 44 in Centro. Please read Bwana's quick Guide to Rio for more details. Recommended. You can find the link here: "http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=520901&highlight=bwana#post520901" In 4x4 most of the visitors are brazilian. In centaurus most are non-brazilians.

Help:

On my last night I decided that in spite of the sometimes negative comments on the forum I wanted to go to Help. Best time to get there is around 11h00, sit in front of Help in the cafes, drink a beer and enjoy the sight of the garotas standing outside, waiting for their customers. It is an interesting game that is going on there. The mongers are 'hunting' for the best girl, the girls are hunting for a gringo who is willing to pay the (high) price. I was sometimes wondering, who is hunting who here? Are we their prey or are they our prey?

Just before midnight most people get in, because after midnight the cost goes up from 22 R$ to 32R$. I chatted with a some americans that were visiting and just before midnight we went in together. I have to say that I was impressed. You do NOT want to miss this experience, it is a great Discotheque. Even if you do not take out a girl. The 'atmosphere' was top, a huge hall, nice music (not too loud), great lighting and lots of girls. The thing with Help is that all kinds of girls can be found there. Some of them are regular professionals and others are beginners. When I was there I spotted a gorgeous looking girl called Deborah from Bahia. She turned out to be a 23 year old student and was spending 5 weeks in Rio in order to make some extra money. (divorced with kid and now studying in her first year) She had never 'offered her services' to make money before and this was her first week I believe. We took a taxi from Help to Ipanema (9 R$). When we arrived at the apartment she was a little nervous but soon calmed down after I gave her a nice relaxing massage. We spent 3 hours and I paid her 300 R$. (and YES I know that was WAY too much and I should have negotiated it down more) Anyway, she was the nicest girl I had met so far. I wish her well with her life and was impressed with her dedication to build a future for herself and her son. That was part of the reason I felt OK about the 300 R$. Later that night I decided I did not want to miss any last chance of having some fun during my last night. So went to Help again. (it was now 5 am) Picked a nice mulata girl for 150 R$. (3 hours) However I did make sure I put all my things in my locked suitcase as I did not want my camara to be nicked as happened to me last year with a Help girl. Shit can happen with these girls, taking some precautions is advisable.

Summary:

Make sure you speak some Portugues (try Pimsleur) and you can meet nice girls everywhere. (Escorts, Termas, Help) I did not try Boites, but will next time. Be nice to the girls and treat them with respect but without being a fool as in thinking that they are going to be your next girlfriend. Be careful and stay away from bad places (like copa beach at night). Alternatively you can mate up with other mongers and form a small group. Also realize that what you pay the girls represents a LOT of money to most Brazilians (half a months salary or more) and therefore don't hesitate to negotiate prices down.

If you are a first timer, my guess is that you are going to like Rio a lot, possibly even fall in love with it. (like I did). Just keep in mind that the reality of Rio is not the same as in San Francisco, Paris, Amsterdam, Tokyo or where ever you are from. Read this forum, read Bwana's guide, prepare yourself and after that, most of all, ENJOY it to the max!

Be well,

Dutch44

PS: 1 photos attached of the atmosphere at the beach suring sunset and 1 of Juliane

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Rio Bob
01-23-07, 02:52
Non-pro:
Nuth (Mon)
Baronetti (tues/thurs)
Melt (Sat)
Guapo Loco (tues - Leblon; Weds - Barra)
Castello das Pedras (Sunday night funke dance club - predominantly non-pro's; fun to see them dance like in the termas)
Willie

Willie, thanks for the report. I have a couple of questions. Monday night at Nuth is when they play retro music, I think the crowd is a little older too, what did you think of Monday night at Nuth?

Also what about Melt? Were you able to connect in these places?

Bob.

El Austriaco
01-23-07, 06:03
Some of them are regular professionals and others are beginners. When I was there I spotted a gorgeous looking girl called Deborah from Bahia. She turned out to be a 23 year old student and was spending 5 weeks in Rio in order to make some extra money. (divorced with kid and now studying in her first year) She had never 'offered her services' to make money before and this was her first week I believe. We took a taxi from Help to Ipanema (9 R$). When we arrived at the apartment she was a little nervous but soon calmed down after I gave her a nice relaxing massage. We spent 3 hours and I paid her 300 R$. (and YES I know that was WAY too much and I should have negotiated it down more) Anyway, she was the nicest girl I had met so far. I wish her well with her life and was impressed with her dedication to build a future for herself and her son. That was part of the reason I felt OK about the 300 R$.
Great report, Dutch44, especially as your first report, I'll definitely make sure to include it in RoD.

Let me quickly comment on your note about the Help girl, though. IMHO, yes, there are definitely veteran hookers and beginners in Help, but to determine which one is what, I ALWAYS entirely disregard whatever story the girl is giving me and base my assessment ENTIRELY on her behavior. The fact that she would ask for R$ 300 (and possibly more? Did you negotiate) for me would be a dead giveaway that this was NOT her first time and not her first week (although girls sure do learn fast when they hit Copacabana... maybe I should tell the conversation I overheard one time in Meia Pataca with two girls coaching their cousin on how to rip gringos). In my opinion, these girls have a very vested monetary interest in telling mongers whatever will get the most bucks out of them... and can you check out their stories without spending a lot of time there? Not really, and if you happen to catch them in a blatant lie, they will have millions of excuses and "you are not from here, you just don't understand how things work", blablabla. It's all a fantasy, a very nice, pleasant fantasy, but a fantasy nonetheless.

But hey, it was only R$ 300, and the most important thing is you had a good time with her. Actually, it's the only thing that matters.

Also, I really hope that the guy who a while ago insisted that it was perfectly safe to walk on Copa beach at midnight reads your story about getting robbed at gunpoint. Well, he said he would never go back, anyway.

Personally, I have read Bwana's Quick Guide to Rio, and compared to what Bubba has put up on this very board (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2191), I'd say Bwana's offers nothing special and might actually be lacking in some areas. But that's just my opinion (and my nod to our very own Bubba here).

Thanks again for a great detailed report, Dutch44!

EA

Dutch44
01-23-07, 13:41
Hi El Austriaco,

Thanks for your reply. By the way, I love Austria, just a pity there are so few Brazilian Garotas there!


Great report, Dutch44, especially as your first report, I'll definitely make sure to include it in RoD.

Let me quickly comment on your note about the Help girl, though. IMHO, yes, there are definitely veteran hookers and beginners in Help, but to determine which one is what, I ALWAYS entirely disregard whatever story the girl is giving me and base my assessment ENTIRELY on her behavior. The fact that she would ask for R$ 300 (and possibly more? Did you negotiate) for me would be a dead giveaway that this was NOT her first time and not her first week (although girls sure do learn fast when they hit Copacabana... maybe I should tell the conversation I overheard one time in Meia Pataca with two girls coaching their cousin on how to rip gringos). In my opinion, these girls have a very vested monetary interest in telling mongers whatever will get the most bucks out of them... and can you check out their stories without spending a lot of time there? Not really, and if you happen to catch them in a blatant lie, they will have millions of excuses and "you are not from here, you just don't understand how things work", blablabla. It's all a fantasy, a very nice, pleasant fantasy, but a fantasy nonetheless.

EAI agree with what you say about behavior. This girl starting asking me more but said I did not want to pay that. I agreed (a little too easy indeed) at 300 R$ as it was my last night and really liked her. She was gorgeous. The second Help girl I met later I negotiated down to R$ 150 which I think is a way more acceptable price. I 'scan' a girl at personality more than looks. If a girl is great looking it does not mean her personality is great, on the contrary. However this girl from Bahia felt sincere, she was kind of nervous and really tried to make me enjoy things when we were together. She did not tell me any stories about herself (divorced, son etc.) until at the end of the session when I asked her. She was kind, a little shy, loved to laugh and yes, very sexy. I had to spend my last night with her. (you know the feeling)

Take care,

Dutch44

Pipe Layer99
01-23-07, 21:01
Hi everyone,

I have just (january 2007) returned from Rio and spent a full week there, for the third time in 1 year.


Good Report. Lots of good info there.
Just one thing I would like to point out and not in a negative way. The girl you gave R300 to for 3 hrs, yes I think you did over pay. Don't know how the negotiation part went, but perhaps you should have negotiated a 'little' bit more. If she was that appealing to you, then may, just maybe, R300 for TLN would be better. This way you can have more in the morning. Just my personal opinion. I am glad you had a great time with her.

One last thing, this was probably not her first time there and she may not have kid. These girls are all full of it. So, gentlemen, just keep your guard up in that respect.

Other than that, I'm glad you had a safe and enjoyable trip. Nice to hear you tried some of everything. Good for you.

Donnie D

Pipe Layer99
01-23-07, 21:09
I just read your reply to EA. That answered the questions I had in mind as well. Well done.

Like I mentioned, I'm glad you had a good time.
Good contribution to the forum also. DD

Rosine
01-24-07, 00:41
Sixteenth time in Brazil in 4 yrs. Been to most states and many remote areas, though mostly stay in Rio. I am somewhat younger so indulge in both the non-pro and pro scene. Prefer upscale places to monger if in Zona Sul (Ipanema, Leblon, Gavea, Barra). Never been to Help/rarely in Copa other than the Termas. L'uomo/Monte Carlo. Also like hanging with the natives at local places outside of Zona-Sul, including the favelas. If you know someone it is not so dangerous. Baile do funke (guys dancing with guns and really hot chick's can be really fun as long as you act cool and blend in). Have stayed in the favelas with some of the pros and non-pro's that I met in Rio, but I look Brazilian and speak fluent Brazilian portuguese. I have a slight preference to morenas with big bundas/corpon, then Loiras. No interest in mulatas. Did 16-20 girls in three states this trip. Lost count! Weather sucked this time. Rained 95% of the time over 3 weeks. New years eve. Black Eyed Peas on Ipanema beach was incredible though, even through the drizzle.

Stuck to the usual haunts this time, termas/messagems in rank order of hotties:

Rio:

Pro:

Centaurus (six girls in 3 visits)
65 (2 girls in 1 visit) - Loira with glasses is one of the hottest I have seen in Brazilian termas
Solarium (4 girls in 2 visits)
Flavia's Massagem - (only 3 girls available at the time I went - 6's & 7's - passed)
Monte Carlo (passed - nothing interesting after one hour)
Madureira train station (3 termas there - occasional hottie - room somewhat dirty - bring your own sheets if you can! - $R65 for 30 min)

Missed VM, L'uomo this time.

Non-pro:

Nuth (Mon)
Baronetti (tues/thurs)
Melt (Sat)
Guapo Loco (tues - Leblon; Weds - Barra)
Castello das Pedras (Sunday night funke dance club - predominantly non-pro's; fun to see them dance like in the termas)

Sao Paolo: visited almost all the massagems in Moema.

Oishii Massagems - 600 Rua Miruna, Moema -($R120 - outstanding value - many hotties - did 2 girls separately)
Francebel ($R200 - mechanical sex with Thais; the place is worth visiting just for the awe factor! - huge and very well done)
CelCenter ($R200 - slightly hotter chicks than Francebel - Thais also)
Love Story (terrible selection!!! - got ripped off by hot amazonian chick)

Missed Bahamas/Bombar this time.

Espirito Santos -

Meipe beach - some of the best non-pro's in Brazil (under 24 looking for men, few tourists - Mais club) -
Didn't do much of the pro scene here though went to White House termas (likely best views of the coastline out of any termas in Brazil) - 7.5 was the best I could find - slightly sleazy as Navy from the Phillipines and other parts of world dock and use the same termas - 60R - 30 min)

Overall this trip - felt that while the women were very attentive - they did not come (i.e get totally into it themselves like I have been used to in the past in Brazil) and felt a little more like pro's and less GFE at the termas/massagems. I must have been unlucky and chosen fairly veteran pro's. The best looking women that I saw were definitely more non-pro's than pro's at places like the airport, malls and some clubs. May focus more on the non-pro's and go pro intermittently when nothing else works out.

As far as the pro-scene goes, the concentration of hotties is higher in the more expensive places like Centaurus and 65 and some of the other termas, so if you are lazy or short on time - just go there. If you want to save $$$$ and have time - spend it looking through VM or the centro massagems. It is a lot like shopping at Neiman Marcus vs. Nordstrom Rack!

Willie

Willie, thanks, I have long really been interested in the non pro scene, but I just can't bring myself to actually do it. The fish in the barrell syndrome always gets me, but this time, I'm going in April, I pledge to do this. If you have any recommendations of legitimate non pro spots to pick up girls at Rio clubs, I'm all for it. Like you, I enjoy the club scene in NYC and Vegas, which are super expensive, top shelf spots like Tao, Tryst and such.. Anything similar to that in Rio? What are the hottest clubs? I'd like to do that kind of Rio at least at night time. Any info you have would be appreciated. Thanks.

R

El Austriaco
01-24-07, 01:35
I 'scan' a girl at personality more than looks. If a girl is great looking it does not mean her personality is great, on the contrary. However this girl from Bahia felt sincere, she was kind of nervous and really tried to make me enjoy things when we were together. She did not tell me any stories about herself (divorced, son etc.) until at the end of the session when I asked her. She was kind, a little shy, loved to laugh and yes, very sexy. I had to spend my last night with her. (you know the feeling)
I do indeed. The girl you look and just go wow, and you know that you will think about her for a loooooooong time if you don't have her, so considering the options, any money will be well spent on her.

Like you, I do scan more for personality than for looks, and in my experience, too, yes, great looks are often not matched in the personality department. Unfortunately, these priorities and the time and effort involved in finding a girl with a great personality sort of make it hard for me sometimes to walk away from a girl I have pre-chosen. But I guess mongers hell-bent on looks sort of go through that, too.

Yeah, Austria is a great country. Great skiing, great musical tradition, great architecture and nature; unfortunately, affordable P4P is usually not one of them. Not like Rio, anyway. And very little Brazilian bunda :(

EA

Infamous1
01-24-07, 04:39
Non-pro:

Nuth (Mon)
Baronetti (tues/thurs)
Melt (Sat)
Guapo Loco (tues - Leblon; Weds - Barra)
Castello das Pedras (Sunday night funke dance club - predominantly non-pro's; fun to see them dance like in the termas)

WillieWhere are these places located. I'll be going to Rio for the first time Feb. 15. I'm all for Non-Pro action. I'm young, successful, health & workout freak, so I have a good physique. I love the challenge, where are these places located. Are they just places to hang out, clubs, bars, restaurants, what and where are they?

Jose Lima
01-24-07, 14:25
Where are these places located. I'll be going to Rio for the first time Feb. 15. I'm all for Non-Pro action. I'm young, successful, health & workout freak, so I have a good physique. I love the challenge, where are these places located. Are they just places to hang out, clubs, bars, restaurants, what and where are they?

Barronitti is in Ipenema
Nuth is in barra right across from barra shopping
Guapo loco is right next door to nuth
The other guapo loco is in leblom next to a popular spot called Bombar
I think melt is on the same block.


The absolut best spot in Rio right now is a place called The Catwalk in barra. Its brand new. It has 2 vip areas downstairs and the entire upstairs in VIP. Only the hottest and coolest people upstairs on a friday night. Fridays are the bests. Its like $R30 to get in downstairs. $R550 miniumal consumption for VIP downstairs. Upstairs its $R125 for guys and $R50 for girls but you can consume most of that. A table upstairs is $R750 mininul consumption but if you give the waiter $R50 he will let you have the table for just what you consume. I have been in the Rio non-pro scence for a long time and this place is one of the best I have been to. Good thing is like Barroneti they take AMEX.

Willie Wonkers
01-24-07, 19:10
Willie, thanks for the report. I have a couple of questions. Monday night at Nuth is when they play retro music, I think the crowd is a little older too, what did you think of Monday night at Nuth?

Also what about Melt? Were you able to connect in these places?

Bob.Hi Bob,

I am not sure what you mean by older (you are right in that it is slightly older than other nights), but I think on average 23-40 which is fine with me. I usually stick to the 23-28 range and there were plenty to be had. Unfortunately, this time I took sand to the beach (girlfriend), so I was stuck at Nuth. I have had 2 non-pro's there before (on separate occasions of course! ), but there certainly have been occasions when I left empty-handed, though I won't leave with lower than termas quality chicks. Get there early and hang at Shenanigans. The owner is cool and the crowd is some of the best I have seen in Rio. (weds is also a good night at Nuth but check out Guapo Loco next door in Barra that night as well). Overall is order Nuth is good Mon, Sun, Weds, Fri, Sat in my opinion though this may have changed. Baronetti Tues and Thurs.

Melt is younger (18-25) and hit or miss depending on the night. I think Sat is good. Get there earlier (8-9PM) and hang at Devassa beforehand. (next door). I connected once at Melt (not this trip as I was there with a married couple), but have only been there 5 times mostly with a bird in hand.

If you are older than 40, this non-pro scene can be tough. I then recommend going to the mall/beach taking your pick, chatting and asking them out. Have had lots of non-pro success with this!

Thanks for your reports as well. I have definitely used them in the past!

Willie

Willie Wonkers
01-24-07, 19:14
Barronitti is in Ipenema.

Nuth is in barra right across from barra shopping

Guapo loco is right next door to nuth.

The other guapo loco is in leblom next to a popular spot called Bombar

I think melt is on the same block.

The absolut best spot in Rio right now is a place called The Catwalk in barra. Its brand new. It has 2 vip areas downstairs and the entire upstairs in VIP. Only the hottest and coolest people upstairs on a friday night. Fridays are the bests. Its like $R30 to get in downstairs. $R550 miniumal consumption for VIP downstairs. Upstairs its $R125 for guys and $R50 for girls but you can consume most of that. A table upstairs is $R750 mininul consumption but if you give the waiter $R50 he will let you have the table for just what you consume. I have been in the Rio non-pro scence for a long time and this place is one of the best I have been to. Good thing is like Barroneti they take AMEX.Damn Jose. Wish I would have known about this earlier. I missed it! I used to hang at Sky in Lagoa when it was THE place for the rich and beautiful, but it shut due to a car accident and 4 deaths by a drunken minor. I was stuck wondering what the new place was but now I know. Any others in Zona Sul?

Thanks

Willie

Urcarioca
01-24-07, 19:15
upstairs its $r125 for guys and $r50 for girls but you can consume most of that. a table upstairs is $r750 mininul consumption but if you give the waiter $r50 he will let you have the table for just what you consume.waow!

show me your money and i will love you till death.

all these "upper" clubs in rio are for idiots.

you can spend more at the "country club ipanema" or the "iate clube of rj", why don't you rent an helicopter and a speed boat in angra to impress "non-pro's"?

baronetti, nuth, bar d'hôtel, 00 and so on are just for idiots looking for gisele bundchen or adriana lima (they won't appear because they are attending a private party at the copacabana palace or the country club), and they get back home with a classy "non-pro" that will cost them r$ 10.000,00 in shopping and travel.

avoid these places, you'll find a bunch of real "non-pros" (still don't understand what it stands for...) in rio, if you go to lapa (circo voador, fundição progesso and all the cultural cafés of mem de sa), praça santos-dumont in baixo gavea on thursday and sunday nights, bracarense or pizzaria guanabara in leblon.

u.

Rosine
01-24-07, 22:53
Jose Lima,

Great information. This is the exact scene I was looking for in Rio. I have a large group of guys coming down for a bach party and they're the hunter types who will want to challenge of a spot like this. Any more recommendations? I'm especially interested in upscale places where you can buy bottles/tables since that's what we're used to in NYC. Can you distinguish between the places that play a mix of music also? Do they all, for instance, play American music too? Does The Catwalk? Do you have a contact there and what night is best?

Thanks

R

Ardgneas
01-25-07, 02:37
Where are these places located. I'll be going to Rio for the first time Feb. 15. I'm all for Non-Pro action. I'm young, successful, health & workout freak, so I have a good physique. I love the challenge, where are these places located. Are they just places to hang out, clubs, bars, restaurants, what and where are they?First time eh. Do you speak Portuguese well? If not you might struggle with the “challenge”. Women in Rio as elsewhere like conversation and laughter too. The problem is Rio is chock full of young, buff, bronzed workout freaks with good physiques. Having blond hair, green or blue eyes will prove to be far more useful attributes says the Irish guy who’s never been to a gym in his life. ;)

BTW don't worry about Castelo das Pedras, just visit somewhere like Bracarense, relax and enjoy some ice-cold chopps.

Ardgneas
01-25-07, 02:39
The absolut best spot in Rio right now is a place called The Catwalk in barra. Its brand new. It has 2 vip areas downstairs and the entire upstairs in VIP. Only the hottest and coolest people upstairs on a friday night.Are you sure didn’t leave out the words “to avoid” between Rio and right in the first sentence. ;)

Seriously, thanks for the info as I now know where all the self-styled “beautiful" and "cool" people hang out. If nothing else it should lessen the number of gobshites in the other bars on Friday nights.

Ardgneas
01-25-07, 02:44
Great information. This is the exact scene I was looking for in Rio. I have a large group of guys coming down for a bach party and they're the hunter types who will want to challenge of a spot like this. Any more recommendations? I'm especially interested in upscale places where you can buy bottles/tables since that's what we're used to in NYC. Can you distinguish between the places that play a mix of music also? Do they all, for instance, play American music too? Does The Catwalk? Do you have a contact there and what night is best?Good info if you’re coming down to drink and see some nice eye candy on the bach(elor) party. If most or all the guys are looking to get laid, then by night 3 I can see you around a table in Help dealing with the “challenge” of negotiating with GDPs. BTW you can buy a table or by the bottle in an “upscale” place like Help so you should fit right in. ;)


Show me your money and i will love you till death.

All these "upper" clubs in Rio are for idiots.Agree to an extent when you refer to the type of people who used to frequent People, W and the like but Nuth and Baronetti also have regular folks in there as well as a smattering of GDPs.

Mangera
01-25-07, 11:23
Please be advised that whether it is fair or not, the majority of the ladies ( non pro) in Rio believe that single male tourist are only there for p4p, which obviously they do not like. Thats one strike against you already, and you have not even openned your mouth yet. Therefore, walking into chic non pro clubs and trying to mingle with the garotas is not an easy task. Can it be done? Yes, but not as common as some might think.

It amazes me how some people think they are going to walk right in, and hookup a garota as if they were going to Mansion nightclub in South Beach. Aside from the fact most women in Rio already imagen that you are already there for p4p, now you expect them to converse with someone that does speak a lick of Portuguese? Give me a break. An for those who think the wad of cash in your pocket will do the talking for you at the highend clubs, let me inform you that there are also brazilians with just as much cash or more, plus they speak portuguese and are great looking people. Good Luck!

You must be able to speak the language and also be in tune with the cariocas culture and way of life to have a shot at high end girls. I think brazilians will respect you more and are more willing to except you as a regular guy if you learn the language. I think Brazilians appreciate tourists who show the great effort to learn the language, and about their culture.

At least from my experience, ever since I learned how to speak and read good basic portuguese, I have dated a couple of non pros with great success. Obviously there is a correlation between LANGUAGE and hooking up with non pros. The cash in my pocket is a bonus factor. I am not saying that I will be able to go into any club now, and score. But at least I now have a more realistic shot at it.

Please make sure you know what you are getting yourself into.
I do think it is a good idea to go to all of the highend clubs already mentioned in this board, just for the experience and to get a taste of another aspect of the brazilian culture. But lets be real people.

Again, there are some exceptions to all of this. But as one member already posted earlier, there will be a group of guys hanging out around a table at Help by day 3 trying to pick up gdps. Hope this helps. Ate logo amigos!

Jose Lima
01-25-07, 15:51
Damn Jose. Wish I would have known about this earlier. I missed it! I used to hang at Sky in Lagoa when it was THE place for the rich and beautiful, but it shut due to a car accident and 4 deaths by a drunken minor. I was stuck wondering what the new place was but now I know. Any others in Zona Sul?

Thanks

Willie

There is a place that I went to but I got there to late. It was called the Patio lounge, Its right in the Jockey club in ipenema i think. Everyone knows of the jockey club its not hard to find. On sundays it opens at 7:00pm-2:00am but i got there around 2:00am and the people were just walking out. It was PACKED with young hottys. Tons of girls. On the younger side 16-23, but smoking hot none the less.

Urcarioca:
I think Infamous 1 posted a question and I posted an answer. I was just trying to help. If he had asked for the best termas I would have tried to give him the places that i have been to also. Take a chill pill man


Rosine:
Barronitti has good bottle service. They have two VIPs, well 3 really. But they have tables along the side of the club. This can be a hassle because you always have some drunk guy/girl trying to sit at your table. Tip one of the security gaurd $R50 and he will make sure no one disturbs you. The better Vip is at the back. If you have a group that is the best place to be. You can see the whole crowd. Its elevated and security is in the front. Go there earlier in the day. We would go after we got off the beach and tell the manager that you want the back vip and they will hook you up. They charged me and my girl $R550 minumul consumption. Barroniti is good on Saturdays but the best night is Sundays. The catwalk is the best on Fridays. I have a contact there. PM me for the info. The catwalk plays mostley techno and some hiphop. They play some brazilian funk also. Barronitti plays the same. Barronitti has become more americanized,ie..chicks dancing on couches etc..

Ardgneas:Again a question was asked and an answer given. Cool out. If they want to try there hands at non-pros i dont see a problem. Help gets real boring after the 14th night straight brother. Plus you are forgeting one thing HELP, TERMAS will always be there man. They aint going nowhere, so try your hand at some non-pro action, you can always head over to help later. Nothing wrong with a scenero change. Especially if you are use to going hard in the states.

Mangera: I personally dont think its any harder the in the states. The only walls you put up are in your own mind. Wether you think that you can or you think you cant pull a carioca, your right. I have had great success getting non-pros in brazil. All girls want to party and if you are having a good time then they want to be around you. You just have to grab your balls and go in for the kill.

LASTLY-I am not here to argue, disagree, or get into a pissing match with anyone. This is not 5th grade catlolic school. This is a informative website. If someone wants the info fine. Why waste space and time with mindless banter.

Fredo24
01-25-07, 16:36
Decided to go to L'Uomo anyway, against the advice of some senior members. Figured I could always walk out and go somewhere else. Arrived at 5 PM on a Monday night and there were about 40 girls. Although I am a picky one, I saw at least 5 that were well in my range (8 or above). First I talked to looked exactly like Paris Hilton, but no English. So I ditched her after 15 minutes or so. This is one of the things I like a lot about the Termas: you just ditch them and they don't mind (or at least pretend they don't). Switched to Julie from Brasilia, a very nice girl of 22 and a great dancer (in my book great dancers are often good in the sack). Not much English, but just enough to have some conversation. Took her to the room after 45 minutes or so and had a great time. Her chest is not so great, reason being she gave birth at 16, but great attitude and totally GFE. Did everything I wanted (but I am a simple man).

Back in the boite I switched to Jade from Bahia, a 26 year old psychology student with excellent English. A bit too tall for me to be ideal, but such a lovely personality.

Again totally GFE.

Both girls highly recommended.

I found L'Uomo to be very friendly again, clean and all the facilities were working properly.

This was the first Termas I tried in Rio and I can still recommend it to first timers who may be a little nervous about going to a Terma. This place will put you right at your ease.

Second night I decided to give Monte Carlo a try. Arrived only at 11 PM, but the place was packed with about 40-50 girls. I saw at least 10 I lked this time. This place is somewhat more aggressive than L'Uomo. Girls come up to you, 10 seconds after you're in, stick their tongue in your mouth and grab your dick. In L'uomo this takes about 60 seconds more (and they tend to be more discrete about the dick grabbing). They also tend to wait for eye-contact or hand signal in L'Uomo. In MC ended up with Roberta and didn't regret it. Great gal, again totally GFE and very energetic and athletic. We had a lot of laughs.

In Monte Carlo you need to do a lot of running around between floors, too, where I find the layout of L'Uomo somewhat more convenient. The location of MC is a bit better as it is barely 20 meters off Ave. Atlantica. Don't ask the taxidriver to take you to the street it is in because he will pester you about going to MC as he wants to make a commission. Let him drop you off on the corner of Atlantica and Siqueira Campos and walk back one street.

Last night in Rio I went to Help, but didn't do takeout. I actually caused a row between two friends who each claimed they had me first. Left at 4 AM. I nearly always have a good time in Help as I like the music and the dancing, but too many of the girls are obviously high on something (I understand they go the washroom to do coke). They can come on to you pretty aggressively and if you let them stick around trying to be polite, they can turn more ugly if you leave without them. I was a bit wary going to Rio this time because all of the safety stuff I had read here. I must say I felt completely safe, even walking around (albeit before dark) in the L'Uomo area. There was a lot of police on Atlantica as well. I think that while Rio may be a little more dangerous than most cities, as long as you keep your wits with you, you will be safe.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Bubba Boy
01-25-07, 16:50
Excellent post Jose. Everybody try and post positive stuff rather than criticisms, it makes the day go faster.

Exec Talent
01-25-07, 18:15
Decided to go to L'Uomo anyway, against the advice of some senior members. Figured I could always walk out and go somewhere else. Arrived at 5 PM on a Monday night and there were about 40 girls. Although I am a picky one, I saw at least 5 that were well in my range (8 or above).

Second night I decided to give Monte Carlo a try. Arrived only at 11 PM, but the place was packed with about 40-50 girls. I saw at least 10 I lked this time.

Fredo4 you have just confirmed what I posted previously. MC has much better looking girls now. You found 5 of 40 in L'uomo and 10 of 40 in MC. Enough said.

No question about Julie, which is what I also posted. But I really would hate for guys to come see one girl who may not be working or very busy. Seems we agree.

Rosine
01-25-07, 19:28
Good info if you’re coming down to drink and see some nice eye candy on the bach(elor) party. If most or all the guys are looking to get laid, then by night 3 I can see you around a table in Help dealing with the “challenge” of negotiating with GDPs. BTW you can buy a table or by the bottle in an “upscale” place like Help so you should fit right in. ;)

Agree to an extent when you refer to the type of people who used to frequent People, W and the like but Nuth and Baronetti also have regular folks in there as well as a smattering of GDPs.I'm quite familiar with the offerings in and in front of Help, MP and all the termas. I think diversity is what these posts are about. I'm not sure why having more information would be deemed negative, but you seem to have some issue with these so called upscale places. Are you just being a hater, or is there a more substantive basis for your opposition?

To each their own, no? No question, we'll be in Help, but seeing all of what Rio has to offer is also something we'd like to accomplish. Thanks.

Rosine
01-25-07, 19:32
please be advised that whether it is fair or not, the majority of the ladies ( non pro) in rio believe that single male tourist are only there for p4p, which obviously they do not like. thats one strike against you already, and you have not even openned your mouth yet. therefore, walking into chic non pro clubs and trying to mingle with the garotas is not an easy task. can it be done? yes, but not as common as some might think.

it amazes me how some people think they are going to walk right in, and hookup a garota as if they were going to mansion nightclub in south beach. aside from the fact most women in rio already imagen that you are already there for p4p, now you expect them to converse with someone that does speak a lick of portuguese? give me a break. an for those who think the wad of cash in your pocket will do the talking for you at the highend clubs, let me inform you that there are also brazilians with just as much cash or more, plus they speak portuguese and are great looking people. good luck!

you must be able to speak the language and also be in tune with the cariocas culture and way of life to have a shot at high end girls. i think brazilians will respect you more and are more willing to except you as a regular guy if you learn the language. i think brazilians appreciate tourists who show the great effort to learn the language, and about their culture.

at least from my experience, ever since i learned how to speak and read good basic portuguese, i have dated a couple of non pros with great success. obviously there is a correlation between language and hooking up with non pros. the cash in my pocket is a bonus factor. i am not saying that i will be able to go into any club now, and score. but at least i now have a more realistic shot at it.

please make sure you know what you are getting yourself into.
i do think it is a good idea to go to all of the highend clubs already mentioned in this board, just for the experience and to get a taste of another aspect of the brazilian culture. but lets be real people.

again, there are some exceptions to all of this. but as one member already posted earlier, there will be a group of guys hanging out around a table at help by day 3 trying to pick up gdps. hope this helps. ate logo amigos!fair points. i do speak some basic portuguese, pimsleur learned. i think you are right generally, but people want to experience it all, especially if you are really into the club scene. i do agree, however, that things are more likely to end up at termas and inside helpee.. but at least we'll have the full picture.

we also plan to try a bit of buzios, any info on the p4p out there? any termas?

Bubba Boy
01-25-07, 21:03
Switched to Julie from Brasilia, a very nice girl of 22 and a great dancer . Her breasts are not so great, reason being she gave birth at 16, but great attitude and totally GFE. Did everything I wanted (but I am a simple man).


Jeez Fredo, nice post, but you are a little tough on Julie's breasts, I mean she is a smoking hot 9 in anyones book. Talk about picky ;-)

Rio Bob
01-26-07, 18:41
We also plan to try a bit of Buzios, any info on the p4p out there? Any Termas?

I have been to Buzios on several occasions through the years and I do not know of any Termas's there.

I have seen single tourist women there from Argentina and Chile and I'm sure from all over especially during the season.

I once took a non pro to Buzios that I met in Rio. While in Buzios we met a guy from the Netherlands, he had a date with him, a girl who lived in Buzios who worked as a hair cutter in a local beauty parlor. We were in the bar that is on rua Pedras at the corner of Orla Brigette Bardot, can't miss the bar, open bar loud band, don't remember the name. But I got talking to the dutch mans date, she told me she used to work in Help and she pointed out to me several girls in this bar that were GDP's and they were very nice. And there was another woman that joined our group who asked me to come to her house, I didn't go.

If you go to Buzios don't expect to find anything but there will be single women tourists there and there will be GDP's but it's not like Copacabana.

Sperto
01-28-07, 21:55
We also plan to try a bit of Buzios, any info on the p4p out there?
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=365942&postcount=167

Carlos Primeros
01-28-07, 22:27
Buzios is like a bottle party: bring your own bottle.

If you invite any girl from Rio to Buzios she will jump at you and will come with you - no pay needed. 99% of the GDPs can not afford something like this and Buzios - as Angra - is a dream for them.

If I go to places like Buzios I hang around 1 or 2 days in Rio, get very nice GDP with a little GFE and take her out to Buzios.

Enjoy

Carlos Primeros

Bravo
01-28-07, 23:01
Haven't been out there in about 6 years, can you recommend a good pousada to stay at. Looking in the 50-80 dollar range, not too far of a walk from Rua de pedras. THX

Carlos Primeros
01-28-07, 23:15
I usually stay at the Pousada Byblios. This pousada is appro.x 7 -8 minutes walk away from the Rua das Pedras and it passes also my favourite Restaurant Satyricon.

Last time I stayed there I paid during the week 210 Reais, Friday to Sunday it was 280.

I suggest that you go to www.buziosonline.com.br and check there. You should stay in the Centro and not out to Geriba or other beaches.

Carlos Primeros

One Eyed Man
01-28-07, 23:40
Monte Carlo
Monte Carlo just didn’t do it for me. It reminded me of Centaurus, which I like but which I always got second-rate performances, and I half boycotted, half didn’t get around to visiting this time. The garotas were fine, but nobody really appealed to me, though I ended up going to a cabine with a 19 year-old hardbody who gave me her number.

New Years’ Eve
I took the plunge and paid the premium to stay over through New Year’s. Unfortunately, the Copa thermas close early and remain closed on New Year’s Day. Everybody wears white and goes to the beach before midnight, and the girls throw flowers in the ocean as an offering to Yemanja. I was really underwhelmed by New Year’s. I thought the street party that develops on Avenida Atlântica before midnight was awesome, but I was hoping to kiss a yummy Carioca for New Year’s, and that just didn’t happen. There’s a half-hour long fireworks show, but fireworks aren't my thing. Probably the show with the Black Eyed Peas over in Ipanema was fun, but that was the opposite side of town for me, and I would have had to fight millions of people getting back.

Speaking of, I’ll be back for Carnaval in three weeks and cannot wait.

Final thoughts: I overhead some fifty-year old guy from New Jersey explaining to some Scandinavians what was what in Rio. He had found some doctor that rents him an apartment in Copa with a live-in maid that cooks and cleans for him. Maybe I’ll try the apartment thing next year. One of the pros and cons of thermas versus Help is that with Help, you get the girl for multiple hours (or as he put, “sleeping with a pair of soft tits pressed against you”) versus one hour of less for the same price. There were also many cuties to be picked up at the beach.

One Eyed Man
01-28-07, 23:41
As I had previously planned, after a couple of nights, I switched to Le Meridien (“merijieni”) and lived it up for the rest of my stay. This hotel was simply more plush, more comfortable, pleasant, and they pampered me. Of course, it’s one of the nicer hotels anyway, and they jack up the rates for New Years and Carneval, so I probably won’t stay there again. Le Meridien has been reported as un-girl friendly, and I didn’t test it, though I think you could get anyone in during the day. At night, there’s dedicated security there, and on New Year’s Eve, the hotel said no visitors were allowed and hotel guests had to wear arm bands.

I spent my days on Hooker’s Beach, so it was a bit of a hike to get down there, but I needed the walk. My man Luis at the Soraya tent took care of me, as usual. He’ll get you umbrellas (“guarda-sol”), chairs (“cadeiras”), food, beer, and girls, if you want. I still wish he’d wear a swim suit that covers his whole butt crack, though.

I also went to Therma 65. Although my Portuguese has improved, the front-desk people at some of these places seemed to be shocked when you said it was your first time there, though the procedure is always the same. I had a hard time finding garotas to my liking (and all the good ones were taking), but I ended hooking up with a blonde law student with enormous breasts and had really hot sex in the cabine. She said the wouldn’t be there any longer come Carnaval, and I haven’t been able to find her number.

Then I took on the wild side and went to MV 30. El Austriaco’s directions were accurate, but let me add my spin: coming out of the Uruguiana station, turn left and proceed until you hit Presidente Vargas. CROSS Presidente Vargas and head down Miguel Couto until you hit a small square. MV 30 is to the far side, and MF1 I believe is to your left. MV 30 was really a local’s place. For starters, only half the guys dress in robes. Management seemed really worried when I arrived that I wouldn’t get the hang of the place. At MV 30, they play Brazilian funk—LOUD. The garotas generally fit Bubba Boy’s description of the ones at 4x4, with generous bundas. Still, I was able to find a delicious mulatta and had a great session with her. . After hours, the shops at the Uruguiana station close, and an impromptu street party begins. I generated the nerve and bought a bowl of steak and linguiça for $5 that was out of this world (just don’t start questioning whether the meat is USDA prime and where it came from.)

I love the centro thermas: they’re cheaper than the ones in Copa, the garotas are more real, and there is a lot of local color and flavor. Although the streets of centro look scary with lots of lurking shadows at night, I never felt threatened, and there are still a lot of people roaming around, coming back from work. I’d feel safe going back the metro at any hour (i.e., until it closes at midnight.)

One Eyed Man
01-28-07, 23:41
I spent the time from Christmas through New Years in Rio. I also spent a few days up to and through Christmas in São Paulo, though most everything was closed. I went to Kilt (“kilchee”) one evening, but that’s really all I have to report. I do have a pretty favorable impression of the place, though there are clearly some places where you want to be careful at night.

First I stayed at the Atlântico Copacabana a couple of nights. I think the location is just great, since it’s centrally located across the street from L’Uomo and the subway, and there are also a lot of places to eat around there. My room was a junior suite (I think suite solteiro), and though it had all the modern conveniences (AC, Internet, mini-bar), I thought the room was a bit on the Spartan side. It’s been described as girl friendly, which I didn’t test, but I felt you were always under close supervision by the front desk when coming and going.

I’m not sure where all this talk of the decline of L’Uomo is coming from, though I have to admit I’ve only been there three of four times. The time I went (the day after Christmas), the women greatly outnumbered the men, and although I had found the women to be on the aggressive side, this time, they were mostly hanging out joking amongst themselves. I was under no unusual pressure whatsoever to dash to a cabine and the girls never attempted to up-sell me. Unfortunately, the girl I had had a mind-blowing time with last year had left, but I met a tall blonde and had a great time in the cabine. I want to give her friend, Polina, a try the next time I was there.

This time, I really wanted to explore the centro thermas, and with the exception of a first-time visit to Monte Carlo, that’s what I did.

When I visited 4x4, it was just packed. One girl told me that it’s famous all over Brazil. I made a major strategic error when I was there, and I’d like to advise all mongers that visit thermas: when you see a garota that meets your standards, take her to a cabine immediately; if you wait for a better one to come along, you may end up with nothing. That was my story at 4x4: I waited too long, and all the good ones were taken. Finally, in frustration, I grabbed the nearest garota, and had a great time (though her vagina literally tasted like ass.)

I found one attractive girl, though, that was a bit strange. She was a thin, tall brunette (my type) who was there with an unusually short blonde. The brunette was constantly looking around for her friend. I bought her a drink, and although she spoke to other guys, she didn’t stay with me, nor did I ever see her go to a cabine. Her friend, though, was upstairs getting the shit fucked out of her on numerous occasions. When I finished my session and exited the cabine, there was a long line of couples waiting to go in, so go early.

Mr Enternational
01-30-07, 02:23
We also plan to try a bit of Buzios, any info on the p4p out there? Any Termas?I personally would not reccommend Buzios. I went there with a non-pro a couple of years ago and was bored out of my fucking mind. You can find accomodations at a reasonable price in the off season (I think I paid US$50/day at Buzios Guest House in August), but expect to pay much more for food than you would in the capital. My take on Buzios is that it is really geared towards families who want a quiet outing away from the city. You will find many females saying how they love the place and how nice it is, but all the guys who I have talked to that have been said it was a waste of time and money. To me it is not worth the 2 hour are$18 bus ride. And I won't start to mention the killer mosquitos!

Mr Enternational
01-30-07, 02:38
When I visited 4x4, it was just packed. I made a major strategic error when I was there, and I’d like to advise all mongers that visit thermas: when you see a garota that meets your standards, take her to a cabine immediately; if you wait for a better one to come along, you may end up with nothing..I usually advise the opposite. Whether it be a termas, Help, or anywhere else, never dive on the first thing you see. The reason being is that 9. 9 times out of 10 you will see something better after you have attached yourself. I guess One Eyed Man must have been at 4X4 on his. 1th time. Also there is no hurry because if someone else takes her you can bet that she'll be back in 40 minutes to an hour and you can have her all to yourself after you have spent some time taking the temperature in the room.

Mr Enternational
01-30-07, 03:04
waow!

show me your money and i will love you till death.

all these "upper" clubs in rio are for idiots.

you can spend more at the "country club ipanema" or the "iate clube of rj", why don't you rent an helicopter and a speed boat in angra to impress "non-pro's"?

baronetti, nuth, bar d'hôtel, 00 and so on are just for idiots. avoid these places, you'll find a bunch of real "non-pros" (still don't understand what it stands for...) in rio, if you go to lapa (circo voador, fundição progesso and all the cultural cafés of mem de sa), praça santos-dumont in baixo gavea on thursday and sunday nights, bracarense or pizzaria guanabara in leblon.

u.man i am with you. what is up with all the fixiation on clubs? i'm looking at these figures that people are posting and thinking that i wasted my money on lasik surgery because i must be seeing too many digits. they are talking about spending more at a disco in one night than my mortgage is for a month. my favorite macking spots continue to be the metro, the bus, internet cafes (not the gdp ones in copa - eg. tudo e facil- but the mom and pop ones), and her job. it is nothing to go up to a cashier at the grocery store or mall store and get a conversation started. that way you distinguish yourself and you are remembered. in the clubs you are just another number.

Exec Talent
01-31-07, 04:29
I received an objective report tonight that Julie is no longer at L'uomo. So now guys don't have to worry about fighting over her.

Almotu
02-01-07, 03:17
After reading such glowing reviews of this GDP from L'uomo, I'd be interested in seeing some real live pics of her . . . especially her famous breasts. Are there any of her in the BRAZIL Photo Gallery? Anyone can point me in the right direction?

Exec Talent
02-01-07, 03:45
After reading such glowing reviews of this GDP from L'uomo, I'd be interested in seeing some real live pics of her . . . especially her famous breasts. Are there any of her in the BRAZIL Photo Gallery? Anyone can point me in the right direction?

Julie no longer works there. As for her breasts, the poster actually said they were not that great because she had a child. What was cool about Julie is that unlike a lot of the girls who get in little cliques, she stayed pretty much to herself and clear of all the petty crap that goes on there. I have spent some time with her and also unlike the most of the other girls, she has her act together.

Brazilman
02-01-07, 04:50
Is buzios fun if you take a girl with you, or is it pretty much a bore all around. From all the posts over the years, it seems like the pay for play is non existence at any decent level.

Brazilman
02-01-07, 05:18
There is some debate about what termas are good now and which ones are going downhill. I was there a few months ago and my ratings have changed from 3 years ago. it goes like this: 1)monte carlo 2)solarium 3) 4x4 4)luomo 5)terma aeroporto 6)terma65. When i first started going to brazil ,4x4 was the worst becuse you couldnt breathe from all the smoke, but they fixed that problem now. For pure excitement, 4x4 is number 1 but the quality of the girls isnt as good.4x4 is never boring.3 years ago luomo was number 1, hands down, and solarium was sucky ,but things have really changed.i cant believe how far luomo fell.If your wondering where centsuckus is, i boycotted them about a year ago and stuck to my guns.havent been back since. screw those people at the front desk.how dare they charge over 300reals at that place.anyone care to disagree with my ratings..

Master Yoda
02-01-07, 19:44
Nice Pics Mr.International. It just makes me want to go to Rio even more

JohnnyBlazze
02-01-07, 20:15
Guys,
I will be in Rio for Carnival, I am traveling by myself and will be there from the 17th to the 22nd, was wondering if anyone else was traveling solo and wanted to pair up. There is always safety in numbers especially when you walk out of Help at 3am.

Johnny B

JohnnyBlazze
02-01-07, 20:21
I am guessing that since the apartment, hotel and airline flights are double during Carnival that the girls are charging more as well. Any idea what kind of prices I should expect if I take a girl back from Help. I remember the last time I was there it cost me around 200R to 300R to take a girl home for the nite.

Johnny B

Mr Enternational
02-02-07, 04:59
Guys,

I will be in Rio for Carnival, I am traveling by myself and will be there from the 17th to the 22nd, was wondering if anyone else was traveling solo and wanted to pair up. There is always safety in numbers especially when you walk out of Help at 3am.

Johnny BI'll be arriving on the 17th as well. I'll be staying with one of my non-pros in São Gonçalo but I'm sure I can get time to pair up. And she probably has another non-pro to hook you up with. Hit me on the PM.

Alot of girls tell me that they go for R$500 during Carnaval. I really don't know first hand because during those busy times I am always with my non-pros.

Pipe Layer99
02-02-07, 08:44
I'll be arriving on the 17th as well. I'll be staying with one of my non-pros in São Gonçalo but I'm sure I can get time to pair up. And she probably has another non-pro to hook you up with. Hit me on the PM.

Alot of girls tell me that they go for R$500 during Carnaval. I really don't know first hand because during those busy times I am always with my non-pros.


Who is going to Rio just to hook up with a non-pro? Hell, I do that in the states. I'm certainly not going to fly for hours just for that.

Exec Talent
02-02-07, 12:11
I'll be arriving on the 17th as well. I'll be staying with one of my non-pros in São Gonçalo but I'm sure I can get time to pair up. And she probably has another non-pro to hook you up with. Hit me on the PM.

Alot of girls tell me that they go for R$500 during Carnaval. I really don't know first hand because during those busy times I am always with my non-pros.


Who is going to Rio just to hook up with a non-pro? Hell, I do that in the states. I'm certainly not going to fly for hours just for that.

A few trips back I am waiting at the airport for my regular driver to pick me up when one of the big spenders hits me up for a ride to centro (because it is on the way) where he is staying with a "non-pro." I thought the entertainment value would be pretty high, so I went along. We dropped him off at her place which looked like New Orleans (after Katrina). I don't even want to say what the girl looked like.

I see it time and time again. Get a free ticket from your buddy who is a baggage handler at the airport, mooch a ride from another traveler and stay with an ugly "non-pro" in a shack. Write a report on how you scored big with a "non-pro" in Rio.

Do keep an eye out for these moochers at the airport. That was not the first time someone tried to get a cheap ride. You spend the time and money to arrange a safe ride from the airport and they want to tag along for R$10.

Jose Lima
02-02-07, 14:42
A few trips back I am waiting at the airport for my regular driver to pick me up when one of the big spenders hits me up for a ride to centro (because it is on the way) where he is staying with a "non-pro." I thought the entertainment value would be pretty high, so I went along. We dropped him off at her place which looked like New Orleans (after Katrina). I don't even want to say what the girl looked like.

I see it time and time again. Get a free ticket from your buddy who is a baggage handler at the airport, mooch a ride from another traveler and stay with an ugly "non-pro" in a shack. Write a report on how you scored big with a "non-pro" in Rio.

Do keep an eye out for these moochers at the airport. That was not the first time someone tried to get a cheap ride. You spend the time and money to arrange a safe ride from the airport and they want to tag along for R$10.


When I first started to go to Rio I would snub my nose at the paying costomer and always go for the Non-Pros. I think I changed when I was hooking up with these hot girls and they wanted to be my #1 all the time girls. So now you have 5 girls and it gets to be a hassle. Now I go down and banged as many GP's as a I can, 4-5 a day. Its just not worth the headace with non pros unless you live in Brazil or are there 6 months out of the year. And even then is it worth playing with someones emotions and wasting both of your time?

In the end its just all about the nookie.

Mr Enternational
02-02-07, 18:49
When I first started to go to Rio I would snub my nose at the paying costomer and always go for the Non-Pros. I think I changed when I was hooking up with these hot girls and they wanted to be my #1 all the time girls. So now you have 5 girls and it gets to be a hassle. Now I go down and banged as many GP's as a I can, 4-5 a day. Its just not worth the headace with non pros unless you live in Brazil or are there 6 months out of the year. And even then is it worth playing with someones emotions and wasting both of your time?

In the end its just all about the nookie.I am just the opposite. When I first starting going to Rio I was knocking down GDPs like it was nobody's business. I was known for always getting a 2 for 200 special at Meia Pataca. Then when I studied there as part of my master's program in international business I started getting into the cultural aspect and not just going for P4P. Now as I gear up for a PhD in cultural anthropology I can say that I know more of Brazil geographically than most Brazilians. All because I have fostered relationships with people outside of the P4P arena.

Don't get me wrong, I still go to the termas with the fellas, hang out in front of Help (where a good many of the gdps know me and some swear I am Brazilian) every now and then, and hit the downtown spots as soon as the plane lands, but for me today it is more than just the nookie. I mean face it, pussy is pussy from the projects to Beverly Hills. So I prefer to spend the majority of my time on the local scene with locals and gaining a take on things from that perspective. I have seen, done, and experienced a much greater amount than I would have if I was still the neophyte hunter from years ago just seeking out gdps so I could skeet in their faces.

Member #4018
02-03-07, 16:21
I can vouch for Mr Enternational. July 2006, we visited Santo Domingo, DR. All non-pros. We travelled to Rio the following week. After our trip to the boites in Centro, he got together with a non-pro and I took my usual route-a HELP girl. We took a trip to Bogota and Cali in November. During the night in Bogota, he got together with a non-pro. While in Cali, his other non-pro called over a few friends for myself and another guy. We got rid of them the next day and called over some other non-pros. I returned to Rio for my Nov-Dec trip 2006. He came to visit me in my apartment with, you guessed it, another non-pro.

We both are young guys and have no problem hooking non-pros. Our problem is getting rid of them. Oh yea, none of them were horrid or anything like that.

Infamous1
02-03-07, 18:16
Guys,
I will be in Rio for Carnival, I am traveling by myself and will be there from the 17th to the 22nd, was wondering if anyone else was traveling solo and wanted to pair up. There is always safety in numbers especially when you walk out of Help at 3am.

Johnny BJohnny Blazze,

I will be in Rio Feb. 14-26 with one other person. We should definitely try & get together stronger numbers would be better. Me & my friend are mid 20's. How old are you?

JohnnyBlazze
02-04-07, 16:57
Infamous (more than famous you are in famous) I would like to meet up, I am 30 and I have been to Rio a few times before but its always better when you feel comfortable with your surroundings. I am staying in a apratment in Leme, its on Ave Atlantica on the beach about a 5 minute taxi ride from Help. Lets try and meet up on the 17th and head over to Help. I got a few other guys on this board who are going to be there that week as well, together we should feel safer.

Johnny B

Johnny Blazze,

I will be in Rio Feb. 14-26 with one other person. We should definitely try & get together stronger numbers would be better. Me & my friend are mid 20's. How old are you?

Java Man
02-04-07, 20:53
Oglobo TV and newspaper reporting Centro Rio has 30 houses of Fast Sex, charging R1/min with a 10 min minimum. 5 to 10 garotas available in each house. Ranging from 18 to 30 years old. It can be paid in cash, credit or debit cards. They're open 10a to 7p, Mon-Fri, except holidays. They're found in small old buildings. The report is kind enough to list the streets the houses can be found:
From Rua De Carioca to Senhor dos Passos, crossing Ruas do
Rosario, Uruguaiana, do Ouvidor, Sete de Septembro, Buenos Aires and Conclaves Dias.
The rooms are described as minisule. They're busiest during lunchtime when the "officeboys" skip lunch to pay a visit.

So how do you find them? Take a walk in the Area, you'll come across someone handing out small flyers with the address and pricing promotion. (These people earn R30-40/wk for handing out the flyers.)

The report quotes some of the local merchants near the houses stating that there is no crime in the area, as the houses have security outside and there's more police presence. But to be extra cautious in the houses, or your wallet or valuables maybe stolen.

Oglobo won't let me copy the report but here's the link to it:
http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mat/2007/02/04/294439427.asp

This is the link to the newspaper article:
http://www.experimenteoglobo.com.br/flip/index.php?playerType=single&idEdicao=0930327e19dd91b6aa76407e2fb4ae14&idCaderno=079b98c2e7a7f9c25838d6ec271d2aa7&page2go=20

I'm not sure, but you may have to register with Oglobo to view those links.

Dutch44
02-04-07, 20:57
Hi guys,

Just found this (portuguese) article in the online version of "O GLOBO" about cheap and fast sex in the centre of Rio. To readers of this forum it will not come as a surprise, but the article says there are more than 30 points in the centre that offer 'fast sex' for 1 real per minute starting with a minimum of 10 minutes. (10 minutes, hmm, who wants it to be that short?)

Anyway, for those who can read portuguese, a short version of the article is here:

http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mat/2007/02/04/294439427.asp

Dutch44

Bubba Boy
02-04-07, 22:50
"São dez minutos para chegar ao paraíso", anunciam os panfletos
fartamente distribuídos pela Rua da Carioca, no Centro do Rio. Na área
em que, até há bem pouco tempo, a sexualidade era restrita apenas ao
combalido Cine Íris, na forma de filmes pornôs de baixa categoria e de
shows de strip-tease, a moda agora são as casas de "fast-sex" - sexo
rápido, ao pior estilo das redes de refeição da qual pegam emprestado o
apelido, segundo reportagem publicada no jornal "O Globo" deste
domingo. E o grande movimento acontece na hora do almoço.

O preço do serviço chama a atenção. Sem serem incomodados pelas
autoridades - a prostituição em si não é crime no Brasil, mas o
lenocínio (exploração de mulheres), sim - existem hoje no Centro pelo
menos 30 pontos onde o sexo é oferecido a um real por minuto, por no
mínimo dez minutos. O pagamento pode ser feito à vista, em dinheiro, ou
por meio de cartões de débito, dependendo do grau de automação da casa.
Cheques, jamais. O número de prostitutas em cada um dos pontos varia
entre cinco e dez, mas é impossível chegar a uma conta exata, uma vez
que esse total varia semanalmente.

Todos os estabelecimentos funcionam em sobrados ou pequenos
prédios antigos, nos quais a freguesia se esgueira pelas escadas, de
andar em andar, das 10h às 19h, de segunda a sexta-feira, exceto
feriados. A prostituição a preços promocionais se estende da Rua da
Carioca até a Senhor dos Passos, passando pelas ruas do Rosário,
Uruguaiana, do Ouvidor, Sete de Setembro, Buenos Aires e Gonçalves
Dias, segundo levantamento feito pelo jornal "O Globo". Graças às
portas abertas dos apartamentos retalhados em minúsculos cômodos, os
clientes podem escolher as profissionais do sexo.

Mr Enternational
02-05-07, 05:28
"o sexo é oferecido a um real por minuto, por no
mínimo dez minutos. O pagamento pode ser feito à vista, em dinheiro, ou
por meio de cartões de débito, dependendo do grau de automação da casa.
Cheques, jamais.They forgot to mention the free beer that some of them give!

Pipe Layer99
02-05-07, 22:13
A few trips back I am waiting at the airport for my regular driver to pick me up when one of the big spenders hits me up for a ride to centro (because it is on the way) where he is staying with a "non-pro." I thought the entertainment value would be pretty high, so I went along. We dropped him off at her place which looked like New Orleans (after Katrina). I don't even want to say what the girl looked like.

I see it time and time again. Get a free ticket from your buddy who is a baggage handler at the airport, mooch a ride from another traveler and stay with an ugly "non-pro" in a shack. Write a report on how you scored big with a "non-pro" in Rio.

Do keep an eye out for these moochers at the airport. That was not the first time someone tried to get a cheap ride. You spend the time and money to arrange a safe ride from the airport and they want to tag along for R$10.


Good one.
Those previous reports just make me say Hmmmmmm.

Sltucke
02-06-07, 05:01
Does anybody know how to contact or find Ju Pantera when in Rio?

Beach Star
02-06-07, 12:44
Does anybody know how to contact or find Ju Pantera when in Rio?Up until fairly recently she was at 4x4.

Don

Beach Star
02-06-07, 12:46
They forgot to mention the free beer that some of them give!No, that was included in the report!

Tiber22
02-06-07, 21:58
Does anybody know how to contact or find Ju Pantera when in Rio?For what I know it's very unlikely that you may encounter her in the business and it would be better for you all not to. Unfortunately I a dear friend of her told me that jorginho had to resign her from 4x4. It seems that jorge broke in tears when he had to confirm her she didn't pass her monthly test and shortly afterwards she moved out of Rio back to her family at least for some time with her son. I still hope is only a rumor but it will be very simple to discover for somebody in Rio at the moment, just asking the staff at 4x4.

Truant
02-07-07, 15:37
At the height of the season (plus or minus a week) last night in Help the crowd was awfully thin. Not characteristic of a normal weeknight with good weather not preventing people from going out. I have to conclude maybe because of the rising Real vs. the Euro and the dollar. A fight broke out between two garotas clamoring for the same client about 3am. Hadn't seen that in a long time. About 4 bodies ended up on the slimy floor, including one security guy. By 4am the dance floor pretty much cleared out of dancers, except the remaining girls dancing solo, still waiting for offers. By 4:30 am, it was a pitiful scene with maybe 20 people inside. Good deals could have been had with several 7's and 8's aggressively standing by to please. Kinda sad. I wish I wasn't already occupied.

http://www.discoteca-help.com/index.html

Brugal8
02-07-07, 16:16
For what I know it's very unlikely that you may encounter her in the business and it would be better for you all not to. Unfortunately I a dear friend of her told me that jorginho had to resign her from 4x4. It seems that jorge broke in tears when he had to confirm her she didn't pass her monthly test and shortly afterwards she moved out of Rio back to her family at least for some time with her son. I still hope is only a rumor but it will be very simple to discover for somebody in Rio at the moment, just asking the staff at 4x4.

Dear Tiber22,

I do remember she used to work at 4 x 4 but the reason I think she left the scene is to become a full time pornstar.

She was just featured in a justin slayer movie called "Booty I Like 2" and I don't think that american actors would have unprotected sex without a proper test, specially after what happened with darren james.

Jasss
02-07-07, 16:30
Anyone wann hook up in Salvador during 14 to 19 for a beer? Or in Rio between 25 to 28. It would be good to hook up with a few mongers from another forum. I need a apartment in Rio if anyone want to share, or know any contacts to hook me up.

Java Man
02-07-07, 18:27
I googled her Name. She's been a busy girl: in 13 american pornos, plus in many Brazilian porns.

here's one link:

http://www.pornstaremart.com/-/porn_star_bio_movies/castid=14556;tab=2.html

Jan 156
02-07-07, 19:27
A couple of ten-minute quickies on the way to do some shopping in town can be delightful. Plus you can find lots of great juice bars and restaurants nearby to refresh yourself. And if you want longer they are always willing to oblige (although I think a take-home can be harder than at Mimosa).


Hi guys,

Just found this (portuguese) article in the online version of "O GLOBO" about cheap and fast sex in the centre of Rio. To readers of this forum it will not come as a surprise, but the article says there are more than 30 points in the centre that offer 'fast sex' for 1 real per minute starting with a minimum of 10 minutes. (10 minutes, hmm, who wants it to be that short?)

Anyway, for those who can read portuguese, a short version of the article is here:

http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mat/2007/02/04/294439427.asp

Dutch44

Jan 156
02-07-07, 19:40
Is spending time and money the safest way to get from the airport? Not wanting to be alarmist (the occasional hold-up must pale numerically given the vast numbers) but I usually get the bus like the Brasilians do. Usually I get the deluxe airport bus but might even do the battered cheaper one. Who's gonna stop them for rich tourists? Airport taxis, on the other hand, are obvious pickings.

As to staying with non-pros (or semi-pros that will be a non-pro for you cos they like ya), plenty of girls have apartments in Copa. The girls that stay in the stix might be nice but it can be a helluva long way from civilisation.


A few trips back I am waiting at the airport for my regular driver to pick me up when one of the big spenders hits me up for a ride to centro (because it is on the way) where he is staying with a "non-pro." I thought the entertainment value would be pretty high, so I went along. We dropped him off at her place which looked like New Orleans (after Katrina). I don't even want to say what the girl looked like.

I see it time and time again. Get a free ticket from your buddy who is a baggage handler at the airport, mooch a ride from another traveler and stay with an ugly "non-pro" in a shack. Write a report on how you scored big with a "non-pro" in Rio.

Do keep an eye out for these moochers at the airport. That was not the first time someone tried to get a cheap ride. You spend the time and money to arrange a safe ride from the airport and they want to tag along for R$10.

Exec Talent
02-07-07, 20:09
The last time I came in my driver was not permitted to pick me up out front of the arrivals but had to park on the floor below. Apparently this had just changed. This area now is reserved with cabs with airport pickup permits.

As for safety. Having someone I know there to pick me up is as much about comfort as it is about safety. Should there be any issues, with the police for example, I know I am with someone I can trust.

There is however, no reason to overpay. Sometimes I use a driver who has his own car. Other times I use a taxi driver whom I know well. The taxi driver has no problem running the meter and I have no problem giving him a tip for the personal service. Apartment rental agencies who are charging USD $40+ are ripping people off.

Tiber22
02-07-07, 23:16
Dear Tiber22,

I do remember she used to work at 4 x 4 but the reason I think she left the scene is to become a full time pornstar.

She was just featured in a justin slayer movie called "Booty I Like 2" and I don't think that american actors would have unprotected sex without a proper test, specially after what happened with darren james.

Ya I imagine and hope so, but what I'm referring to happened in late december, and my brazilian friend is/was one of her 'namoradas... in her private life ju is into women... as many terma garotas are.....

Sad to tell but I'm 100% sure of my information... anybody can ask Jorginho the manager of 4x4...
I was talking with my namorada over the phone about a present we together bought for ju, I was asking if she had appreciated it, and I've never met Ju, and she told me the sad story.... I hope it was a false positive result if it may happen, I up to now don't know the actual present situation... I know that Ju for more than a week didn't return her phone calls and then moved out of Rio...

At present I haven't been talking to my girlfriend for more than a couple weeks and I haven't been asking any other information about Ju during my last phone calls to my brazilian namorada who is living in my condo apartment in Copa. And I know they spent quite some time together there...

Bravo
02-08-07, 02:25
Dear Tiber22,

I do remember she used to work at 4 x 4 but the reason I think she left the scene is to become a full time pornstar.

She was just featured in a justin slayer movie called "Booty I Like 2" and I don't think that american actors would have unprotected sex without a proper test, specially after what happened with darren james.

Unfortunately, I dont think it would be too difficult for these girls to find a shady Doctor in Rio, who will supply a Negative HIV test, for a few reias.

Bubba Boy
02-08-07, 02:40
The HIV test is quite complex, one negative result does not mean the person is HIV positive. It requires a few tests, over a period of time to prove that the person is actually HIV positive. One failed test means nothing..........

The Corn Hole
02-08-07, 03:29
They are using the ELISA test. This test has a high percentage of false positives. Happens all the time. Happened to Pro boxer Tommy Morrison a decade ago. He is now HIV free.

Rio Bob
02-08-07, 17:21
At the height of the season (plus or minus a week) last night in Help the crowd was awfully thin. Not characteristic of a normal weeknight with good weather not preventing people from going out. I have to conclude maybe because of the rising Real vs. the Euro and the dollar. A fight broke out between two garotas clamoring for the same client about 3am. Hadn't seen that in a long time. About 4 bodies ended up on the slimy floor, including one security guy. By 4am the dance floor pretty much cleared out of dancers, except the remaining girls dancing solo, still waiting for offers. By 4:30 am, it was a pitiful scene with maybe 20 people inside. Good deals could have been had with several 7's and 8's aggressively standing by to please. Kinda sad. I wish I wasn't already occupied.

http://www.discoteca-help.com/index.html

Yes this was Tuesday night, Help was not that crowwded but there were a few good ones there. I didnt see the fight because L left for about half an hour then returned so it must have happened then. I was with friends from the middle east and one garota quoted him 800 reais for 24 hours, she was almost a 10 but ended up with 350 reais for all night. My other friend also had a 10 and she charged him nothing but went shopping next day for 200 reais of goods.

I ende up with one of these amazona types which I find I am attracted to lately, my tastes are changing I used to go for just the big blonds which I did have this week too one was 1.8 centimeters tall. I paid the amazona 200 reais, girls are taking 200 but some start at 500, they tell me that is what they get 500 but of course thats crazy, I guess they are practicing for carnaval.

My friends want to go to Lapa tonight can anybody suggest a good place in Lapa for non pros? I keep telling them since they dont speak Portuguese it will be difficyult but they have to learn the hard way.

Ryjerrob
02-08-07, 18:27
badnews wrote:

Hey buddies,

Don't know if is true, but I thought I should place this here.

Help pro SCAM!

Check the link!

http://rio.craigslist.org/cas/275104609.html

Jan 156
02-08-07, 20:35
My friends want to go to Lapa tonight can anybody suggest a good place in Lapa for non pros? I keep telling them since they dont speak Portuguese it will be difficult but they have to learn the hard way.

As you probably know, the 'best' night in Lapa is usually considered Fridays - clubs, street parties etc. Everything depends on your (friends') age and tastes in nightlife. Why not just get off the bus/taxi at the Arches, and wander round a bit?

There's a club plays hiphop (main strip, left hand side as you enter Lapa) with hanging curtains for a door and is almost pitch black inside. Very friendly crowd. Americans need to learn to speak quietly and not flash cash (a 'round' is buying one of those big bottles of beer and sharing it in plastic cups with everyone). Really helps if you can dance - they will love you.

There's an open-front bar I like with live music if you wander off a block or so from the main bit (above) towards where the street pros 'n' trannies hang out on the main road but not quite that far (the block behind where they adjust their knickers maybe, a few yards further into Lapa in 'respectable' land <g>). It's very laid back and easy to chat to people and the music is loud and so minimal Portuguese plus lots of friendliness works reasonably well. I didn't score there last time but a gringo who recognised me from a previous visit just had and was making an inebriated double exit :-) It's a medium/mixed age range.

There are trendier places where the much younger crowd hang.

Will be good to hear your feedback.

The Corn Hole
02-08-07, 23:18
Trying to keep this thread more "on point" I wonder why it is that everytime I hear of a T girl failing her test (albeit very rarely happens) it is always at 4 by 4. I have never heard of this happening at the Copa termas. I know the garotas there are somewhat more ghetto compared with the Copa ones and think this is probably part of the reason. They seem a bit more reckless also. With 100 girls there and a lower hiring standard I guess it makes sense. Just find it sorta peculiar is all.

Anyway, I'll be there in early April and that is not gonna be nearly enough to keep me away from the place. Probably going to skip Centaurus because the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor exchange rate the dollar is getting will probably bankrupt me way too fast there. I like the atmosphere in Quatro por Quatro better anyway. The girls are not aggressive in approaching you and you can sit back, just chill for a while and take it all in. FAR more completa girls there as well.

The Corn Hole
02-08-07, 23:36
Malay is correct about the HIV test. Any number of conditions can render a false positive. Just a shame his thread on the other board got deleted. It had information people needed to know in the original post. One guy objected to it and in the blink of an eye it's gone. Authoritarianism shows it's ugly face once again. :(

Dacian
02-08-07, 23:55
Anyone in Rio interested in catch up for a drink and go out. Drop me a line. I've just hit town tonight after spending the last two weeks in Buenos Aries. (sorry if I spelt it wront Mr Jackson:-) or perhaps I should call it 'bonus' Aries, I had a great time with the guys down there (ISG members that is) and look forward to hooking up with them some where in the future. But now I'm here in RIO and looking to have some more fun. Ok enough. Drop me a line. Yours Dacian (Nik)

Jan 156
02-09-07, 00:35
I can't see much point personally getting overly concerned about whether girls are tested, how accurate the tests are and so on, unless you are in the habit of barebacking. If you are not, then the worst you are risking is non-lethal stuff and a pretty small chance at that.

Ezinho
02-09-07, 00:48
My friends want to go to Lapa tonight can anybody suggest a good place in Lapa for non pros? I keep telling them since they dont speak Portuguese it will be difficyult but they have to learn the hard way.Christopherd's suggestions were right on about Lapa, Friday's definitely the night to go. Just wanted to also mention to check out Asa Branca, it is a Forró club in Lapa, if you can dance just a little bit of Forró, you shouldn't have any problems picking up women there.

Also, you didn't specify whether your friends were only into Brasilian girls. If not, there are many backpacker-type chicks wandering around the streets of Lapa, no Portuguese required. They get wasted off of those cachaça mel things that they sell on the streets for R1. Of course many of them are pale, fat cows, but every now and then some of them look nice; the Scandinavian girls are usually the better looking among the gringas, IMHO.

There's also some samba club in Lapa, I think it's called 100% or something like that, that had some hot mulata dancers. Hell, just wander around from bar to bar, you'll find something eventually. And if all else fails, you can always walk to Termas Rio Antigua in Gloria (unless it's been shut down again).

Mr Enternational
02-09-07, 19:41
badnews wrote:

Hey buddies,

Don't know if is true, but I thought I should place this here.

Help pro SCAM!

Check the link!

http://rio.craigslist.org/cas/275104609.htmlIf the pictures were not there then I would have believed it. But, seeing that I know the girl on the left I would say it is a lie. I call her Batgirl because she has that batman symbol tattoo on her left shoulder toward her back. I took her with me one night a couple of years ago. I paid her R$100 and she stayed until afternoon the next day and let me take all of the pictures that I wanted. As a matter of fact I spoke to her in front of Help last night. She always keeps to herself. I have never ever seen her hanging with other girls.

Now if this story was true I doubt that she would go to the same hunting grounds a day after the crime. Plus she has been going there for years. Usually the people who rob are from out of town and don´t depend on being in front of Help for their day-to-day welfare. I will post pictures when I return to the states.

Mr Enternational
02-09-07, 19:55
The last time I came in my driver was not permitted to pick me up out front of the arrivals but had to park on the floor below. Apparently this had just changed. This area now is reserved with cabs with airport pickup permits.

As for safety. Having someone I know there to pick me up is as much about comfort as it is about safety. Should there be any issues, with the police for example, I know I am with someone I can trust.

There is however, no reason to overpay. Sometimes I use a driver who has his own car. Other times I use a taxi driver whom I know well. The taxi driver has no problem running the meter and I have no problem giving him a tip for the personal service. Apartment rental agencies who are charging USD $40+ are ripping people off.I usually take the special bus for R$6. It stops right outside of the arrivals on both terminal 1 and 2. Depending on traffic it takes from 45 minutes to an hour to reach Copa. If you want to take a taxi, then it is better to go upstairs and find one outside on your own. It should cost no more than R$35 to Copacabana, whereas if you hire from the airport stands, touts, or like Exec said the rental agencies and don´t know any better they will charge you as much as R$70.

Mr Enternational
02-09-07, 20:38
I´ll do my regular report when I can get back home and post pictures with it. But last night we decided to walk up to Balcony. I haven´t been there in a couple of years, but because of the pics that Tom N Jerry posts of the girls he picks up there we decided to give it a try. We got there and did not see anything but rats. It was definitely not the Rio that I know. If you guys could have seen the pictures of the girls who were there you probably would not have visited this section of the site anymore.

We walked down to Frank´s Bar to see what was going on there. The guy let us look in and there were only a couple of girls there. We did a roundabout past Barbarela´s and some other bar. Just looking on the outside menu of the other bar made me say DAMN! Beer R$15, Cristal R$3400. (Today I walked past a store and saw a wide flat screen TV for the same price as that bottle of champagne!) Made me wonder how much pussy was. Anyway it´s an hour later so back to Balcony to see if anything had changed.

There were no tables available so the waiter made two GDPs give up their table for us. I ordered a caipirinha, my friend water, other friend nothing. It was an absolute horror. Looked around for T & J to ask exactly when the good ones were due on the scene, but didn´t see him. Gentlemen I swear on my grandmother´s grave that there was nothing more than a ´4´on the scene. After I finished my caipirinha I told my friends that after two more drinks someone might look doable to me. I saw a chick who was ´ok´ so out of curiosity and to see how much they were going for I asked her how much. She said R$100. I said that is for all night right? She said no, only for 2 or 3 hours. But I´m sure that it could have been possible for all night. We paid the bill and left.

I insisted on going in front of Help to see what was going on. One member who was with me said he wasn´t going to be caught dead in front of the place and decided to take an alternate route to his house rather than pass by Help. The other person came with me. I don´t think I have ever seen so many people in front of Help or at Terraço. But numbers can not take the place of quality. And there was almost 0 quality. I saw two doable newbies, but I acted as if I didn´t speak Portuguese. One got frustrated and asked a regular Brazilian who was passing by to ask me what I wanted. I told him that I would like to talk to her. He mumbled to her and as clear as day she told him duzentos. Then he turns to me and says 300! I started laughing loudly and the girls walked off. I told the guy who was with me and he said that Brazilian guy is always trying to rip people off one way or another. He probably wanted to keep 100 for himself.

This is nothing like the Rio that I know. I have never seen so many favela rejects. Bring back the ´10s´ or at least some 7s or 8s. My only theory is that maybe all the 1st and 2nd string are home resting up for Carnaval so they sent the 3rd string out to warm up the crowd. But I would rather stay cold than be touched by any of the rats that are out here now. Anyhow, I spoke to a couple of people that I know then went to my apartment to get some sleep. It was 1:30am.

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Rio Bob
02-09-07, 21:51
Will be good to hear your feedback.

Yes we hit Lapa Thursday night, thanks all for your responses. My two friends and I ended up in some club that had a samba show, great show it was for 20 reais entrance fee. Before the show I had a brief conversation with a nice looking girl but once the show started all hell broke loose, these people really get in to their samba. We left empty handed as I thought then they wanted me to take them to another non pro lounge in Ipanema. I had another brief conversation with a woman but it was getting late and I didn´t think my usual line of lets go back to my place and have a red bull and whiskey was going to work at this point so I told my friends lets go to Help before everything is gone.

Got in to Help about 3 15 am, place was still packed but most of the good ones I could see were gone already. I searched for a lucky lady , spoke to one very nice manera but she kept on trying to put a festa together with her girlfriend for 300 each, I laughed and walked away. Spoke to several others but the pickings were getting thinner, started to see girls leave alone. I was ready to leave when I spotted a decent looking girl, chatted quickly and agreed on 150 reais. She turned out to be very nice and very sweet and told me the session was very natural for her and not like just another client. Actually all the girls I met this week were sweet and most told me that their performance for me was something they dont do for every client. Its funny to listen to their stories of what they have to put up with with their clients.

Tonight my friends want to go to Nuth in Barra, But I think ill just give them instructions on how to get there, I will go to Help and pick one early.

Ggcross
02-10-07, 04:42
I'm looking to do some nude photography for a project. Do any of you guys know of any model agencies in Rio?

Also about the working girls. Are they usually willing to sign a release form?

Any info would be helpful.

Cheers

Exec Talent
02-10-07, 13:59
I am torn about providing this information, but I think I owe it to at least some of you. There is a new termas girl who is absolutely stunning. I have seen guy after guy being drawn to her. However, she is total dud. She is a sweet girl and I have nothing against her, but I have never seen her with a repeat customer or customers hanging around her after their sessions.

If you are coming to Rio any time soon and frequent termases you should pass on this one. Friends of ET may PM me for details.

Abzsafado
02-10-07, 17:52
Got into Rio Thursday, popped round to MC for my usual bit of relaxation after a long flight. Place was packed at 5pm, loads of Italians in but not really attracting the interest of the girls. Met a young garota that I had last time I was here a couple of months back, she was a sweet 19 year old just started then, had changed a lot in a few months. Physically the same gorgeous, but had hardened up mentally, still a good laugh. Asked her to pick a friend for us to share, had a ball. Must have spent 20 minutes molesting me in the bar before we went up stairs. Plenty of top quality girls in there at the moment.

Went to Franks at night got a nice girl for 200. Best fuck I have ever had in Rio absolutley crazy. She was wanking herself with the heel of her shoe at one point. A shoe fetishist would have loved it. Sorry about the poor quality of the pictures I was using a phone camera.

Euro100
02-10-07, 20:32
I am torn about providing this information, but I think I owe it to at least some of you. There is a new termas girl who is absolutely stunning. I have seen guy after guy being drawn to her. However, she is total dud. She is a sweet girl and I have nothing against her, but I have never seen her with a repeat customer or customers hanging around her after their sessions.

If you are coming to Rio any time soon and frequent termases you should pass on this one. Friends of ET may PM me for details.

You forgot to say where this new gem works ...

thanks
euro

RxHammer
02-11-07, 12:19
Malay Sparks

The KING of mis-information !!!

You are fucking unbelievable. Never Isolated HIV ??? Better call the NIH and let them know they have it all WRONG !!!

Yes, you can get a false positive ELISA test. Then you would follow up with a more sophisticated test for confirmation.

Malay, please leave it alone. You know NOTHING of whih you speak. But, then again, I suppose you think HIV and AIDS is all a gov't conspiracy, in bed with the pharmaceutical industry of course. Yeah, Uncle Sam and those greedy drug companies, nothing better for them to do, huh ??

GO AWAY, MALAY SPARKS.

Hammer

Mr Enternational
02-11-07, 15:49
We arrived in Rio and hit the ground running. We headed downtown to my usual spot, Buenos Aires 85. Most people know it by the spiral staircase. I sat on the first floor with an Amazonian looking chick for a few minutes. Then she decided that she wanted to go across the room to another guy. So we went upstairs to check the third floor action. There was not much going on there. Another member decided he wanted to take the girl that he had hit before. I finally decided on another shorty. I forget what I'm saying to the girl, but she just blurted out "if you want to do anal you have to give me an extra 10." But I already knew that to be the going rate. I make sure that it will be cool to take pictures. She said as long as her face is not in them. I pay the R$20 to the barkeep and we head to the back.

While she is in the other room doing whatever it is they do, I got undressed and got the camera ready. I took a Magnum out of my pocket and threw it on the edge of the bed. It hit the wall and fell through the crack at the end of the bed. Since the beds are permanently attached in place there was no way to recover it. Luckily I had an extra with me.

She came back in and we got right down to business. I passed on the CBJ that they usually give while installing the condom. She lubbed up and I started hitting it from the back. Then I let her get on top to check her skills. After a few minutes I decided that I wanted to spend the rest of the time in anal action. She lubbed up the back door but it was still a tight squeeze. She kept telling me slow but I figured for this extra R$10, I'm going to fuck the shit out of somebody....literally!

We wrap it up. I go take a shower and she goes to take a shit. I had brought all of my belongings to the shower with me so I was able to get shots of her on the toilet. The first shot was a sneak attack so I was able to get her face. I went back out to the bar to wait for the other member. He came out and asked what I did to the girl because her friend is saying that she is having problems now.

We left out to take a lunch break at one of my favorite downtown por quilo spots, Expresso Point. It is located at Rua Miguel Couto and Rua Afandega. I spent R$11.47 on a big plate of food which included ribs, chicken, beans, rice, mashed potatoes, fries, and two guarana naturals to rebuild my energy for the next round.

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Mr Enternational
02-11-07, 16:53
We leave the restaurant about 1:30 and think about going to Rua Alfandega, 502 since neither one of us have ever been and have seen favorable posts on it. But we decide on another usual haunt again, Travesa do Ouvior, 37. We go up and see a sign on the door, R$5 entrance fee with a free Skol. Most of the time when I see the sign and there is nobody at the door I just continue up the steps. But this time we decided to stop by the office and pay the entrance.

We went upstairs to the bar. I get a Guarana Light instead of a Skol and he gets H2O. I sit down in front of the A/C and look around at what the club has to offer today. I didn't really see anything that I just had to have. Just then Alice walked in.

I called her over for a chat and to make sure I still had her current phone number. Why, I don't know. Because out of every 100 phone numbers that I collect from a pro I usually call 0. But you never know when a rainy day will come. She tells me that her and her daughter still live in Barra and that I am welcomed to come stay at her place anytime. I ask her if she has done much work today and she says that she just arrived when I saw her walk through the door.

I'm never the one to be someone's usual customer because I like the variety aspect of mongering. But seeing that I was not really itching for any of the other girls in the room, plus I remember Alice being somewhat fun on the matress I decided to hit it again. Let me add that I like to get them when they first arrive at work. That way they are fresh and can work from natural lubrication.

We go downstairs to pay the bar. I look at the price list on the wall. 20 mintues R$30, 30 minutes R$60, 1 hour R$100. I think to myself what the fuck kind of pricing strategy is this? I take R$30 out of my pocket and give it to the manager. However, Alice's name was not in the book for the day and the lady tells her that she is not supposed to be at work. It doesn't take much convincing for her to write her in. She gets the sheet and towel and we take the elevator upstairs to the room.

It was an excellent 20 minutes, which when fucking like wild dogs seemed to be an hour. I didn't worry about any pictures because I had already had some from when we fucked a year ago. I went to take a shower and another girl came in naked to wash her hands. I told her that she was going to get fucked coming in the bathroom with me like that. I went back to get dressed and we left 37.

We stopped by the first floor of 85 once more to see if any more girls had come in after the morning. I was watching guys come from the back carrying backpacks or briefcases with big smiles on their faces and ready to go back to work. I started to think of the article that was in the paper that was posted on the site the other day and I said to myself that these casas are the best thing since sliced bread. We couldn't have these back home because people don't know how to act plus they would drive the prices up.

It appeared that the same ladies were working. I was out of gas so we just stood in the hall and talked shit with the ladies while we pondered which ones we would do when we came back the next day. We take the Metro back to Copa. It's about 3:30pm.

Summary for 1 day of casa mongering in downtown Rio de Janeiro:

Roundtrip Metro Pass: R$4.60
1st round: R$20 + R$10 for anal
Lunch: R$11.47
2nd round: R$30
Total: R$76.07 US$36.18

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Dcsplicer
02-11-07, 22:11
Mr. Enternational,

Nice report. I found the street pics very useful. I'll be going to Rio in March and plan to do most of my mongering in Centro. Did you use the Uruguaiana Metro stop? I found the Metro Rio webpage, which shows all the stations, and the surrounding streets. It’s at www.metrorio.com.br/english. This will be my second trip to Rio, but this time I’ll be traveling alone. Thanks again Mr. E.

Ledrassi
02-11-07, 22:24
"We left out to take a lunch break at one of my favorite downtown por quilo spots, Expresso Point. It is located at Rua Miguel Couto and Rua Afandega. I spent R$11.47 on a big plate of food which included ribs, chicken, beans, rice, mashed potatoes, fries, and two guarana naturals to rebuild my energy for the next round."

As if I actually give a fuck what you eat or what you don't eat for lunch! Just get to the point already. More action, less bullshit.

(BTW, that last photo showing that girl's shit in the toilet was just sicko. Please, behave like a normal human being).

Fly Guy II
02-12-07, 05:19
Hi Abzafado,
PS a couple of your photos for better clarity. Trust you dont mind.
Later Guys
F G II

Green Banana
02-12-07, 12:23
Gentlemen,
I'm back from Rio where I just enjoyed good fun and excellent sex. Just to give you my personal update:
- I didn't like Solarium very much. First, it is not that easy to find between Jardim Botanico and Lagoa. Second, the venue is so-so, specially for the showers (only 2) the lockers room. When I arrived around 6pm, there were 15/20 garotas waiting with empty eyes and desperate smiles, no one better than a 6 IMHO. Didn't stay (but had to pay entrance fee anyway).

- I wonder why some guys on this forum complain all time long about Luomo. I went there and I repeated three times (a Sunday, a Monday, and a Thrusday): gentle welcome, everything is neat and clean, professional barmen, excellent DJs (Claudio or Luis I think), strip teases. Plus an outstanding selection of brasilian beauties. Expect spending €100 for a 40', €150 if you treat yourself better (bigger suite, 1 hour room, food). I opted for a mulatinha called Aline, 19, fantastic body, nice curves, all firm, great dancer and very good in bed if she feels confortable w/you. BBBJ, but I had known better before. She was so proud to succeed hosting my dick full inside her ass: 'olha, conseiguei sem xylocaine!' - look, I've done it w/o xylocaine, she said. I went back to her later this night, and it was even better, hmm… GFE and very exciting, creative as well.

Baby is still there and hot as hell. She is a blond girl in her early 30-ies, mid-hair, ask the barman if you don't spot her, and don't wait too long as she is a star here. She does everything, if a bit cold - on the Pornstar attitude side. She dried me off and left me wasted!

- 65 disapointing this time, 15 tame girls in their 30-ies+, no atmosphere (despite 7pm a Thuesday), I left.

- 4x4 great and fun, direct access for the girls from the boate (1st floor) to the 'Whiskeria' (groundfloor) - actually there are two entrances: left is direct access to the therma itself (with robe, flip-flops, etc), and right is the entrance of the whiskeria, where you'll find the same girls but you will keep your clothes on. Whiskeria looks like a classic club in Sao Paulo. Girls go from the boate to the whiskeria. I went with a lovely maurena clara, I forgot her warname, she gave me her real one but I can't disclose! Very GFE, sweet, long party in the jacuzzi, BBBJTC, etc. BTW the Sultan suite goes per 90 minutes and is quite funny: giant bed (could host 8 people!), nice jacuzzi, stones, etc. Well worth the difference. All in all I paid c. €150 for this excellent session, a sultan treat indeed.

- Finally I tried the Monte Carlo, as it is by far the most accessible of all thermas if you stay at copacabana. Good fun and crowd at 8pm by a Wednesday. Ariadne, short mulata, nice green eyes, 21 yo, kinky touch and look, gave me a very good 40' session, all inclusive but CIM. She made me test her butt by putting one of my fingers in, she pushed me to slapp her cheeks, well, not the one you will introduce to your mother, but an outstanding bed animal.

I won't go back to prices, system, adresses, etc of the thermas as they have been displayed here by numerous mongers. This was just to give you a quick overview! To sum-up: lovely days of debauchery in the Marvelous City.

Green Banana.

El Austriaco
02-12-07, 20:55
Did you use the Uruguaiana Metro stop? I found the Metro Rio webpage, which shows all the stations, and the surrounding streets. It’s at www.metrorio.com.br/english. This will be my second trip to Rio, but this time I’ll be traveling alone. Thanks again Mr. E.
Let me respond in lieu of Mr. E, if I may? Yes, the Uruguaiana metro stop would be the one to use for most of the Centro action (4 x 4, Termas 502, MV 30, lots of the cheap spots there). In addition, the metro stops are not that far apart, so even if one of the many cheap places is closer to Carioca, say, walking back to Carioca or Cinelandia along Avda. Rio Branco is certainly always an option. It is also quite safe. Done it many times.

EA

El Austriaco
02-12-07, 20:59
As if I actually give a fuck what you eat or what you don't eat for lunch! Just get to the point already. More action, less bullshit.

(BTW, that last photo showing that girl's shit in the toilet was just sicko. Please, behave like a normal human being).
May I kindly and respectfully suggest that you actually post some useful information yourself first before venturing out to make entirely off-topic comments like that, criticizing a respected member who posts his FIRST-HAND experience?

In that spirit, welcome to the board. Please behave like a normal human being and work on your manners, too.

EA

Hunter10
02-12-07, 21:18
Thank you Bubba Boy:

You posted an excellent first time reference guide to Rio.

In a week trip I visited several of the termas and use your review like Frommer guide to having fun in Rio. Brazil a wonderful city with some really attractive females.

Monte Carlo: Sunday there were maybe 30 to 40 girls. The girls were kind of agressive because there was no men around at the time. I end up picking Donna , 20 years old , nice young pretty tanned skin lady. Awesome service for my first time here, unfortunately there was no CIM but she spoke greek which clearly made up for it. Cost about $250 R for 40 min . The upgrade cost for a hour is kind of high I didn't want to opt for it.

day 2 , was at 4x4 . Nice club, alot of selection. The ladies in Brazil do have alot in their trunks. Nice music and atmosphere. I choiced the dancer on stage. Really friendly and great fun to be with. I forgot her name. She's tall, brunette, model like and with green eyes. She's in her 20's. She surpise me with a really good service for someone so hot. Entrance I think increase to $40 R and 160R basic 40 min and 180R for 1 hour.

Termas 502: Small club walk up the stairs to 2nd flr. Selection I could see could be hit or miss with a gem. There was around 20 girls around. Maybe 2 to 3 were do able. The price is great but the only down side of the club is the bedsheets. The rooms are not bad but the bedsheets make them a little dated. My sheet look a little stained. So I took the towel to cover it. I pick a girl for a hour and the service was pretty good. The price is right but I think I spend a little bit more for a little cleaner sheets. The club has potential. Entrance I think rose to $15 for 2 drinks and $112 for a hour.

Termas 65: around 25 to 30 girls. It might have been a slow night but I only saw maybe a few girls I would like to be with. Pick up a lady with a wonderful ass unfortunately when I ask if she spoke greek she said a little which meant later a finger probe. Great service beside that. I can't remember the cost..

Termas Can Cun: Nice club they have 2 entrance for whisky and the boite. The selection was pretty good. Not as much as 4x4 but it was kind of cozy.
The cost was $30R and $150 for 40 min and 60 min $170 which are 4x4 old prices. I hope they don't raise the prices. I guess they had around 30 to the most 40 girls split between the whisky and club. Met a wonderful brazilian name Emmanulle.

Termas Centaurus: The cost is high and the selection is good. Maybe around 50 to 60 girls. The ladies tend to be one of the most aggressive in approaching you as a customer. They tend to be more females than males. It hard to scope the ground without having a female cling to you. Its hard to relax even in the relax zone. You have to move around. I pick 2 separate ladies. One was an absolute stunner. Nice club with very good selection.. It cost $310 for 40 min pay at door when you enter and $220 for eac additional lady for 40 min. The upgrade prices don't make sense to mathematically. I suppose to think with my other head they hope.

Termas Luomo: The selection for absolute stunner wasn't there when I went. There was a nice looking morena I pick with excellent service. Her name is Jeannie. Tall with long legs. My friend also got great service from another girl there. The females weren't as hot as some other clubs but the service I got was really good. One surprising thing at this club was that they had food. It was by the men's shower. Wow the first Termas that actually gave some food for its customer. They had rice, beans, 4types of salad and chicken cutlets. Actually 4x4 gave some food in the 2nd floor back room in limited quanitity.

Termas Solarium: Hmm got there to early waited till 6:30 pm. Maybe around 25 to 35 females the most. Not alot of great selection for an out of the way club. Didn't find any real stunner . I had a pretty good session there but not memorable. Maybe worth visiting another time if I come back.

Bubba Boy your the man with such a great guide posted for newbie to Brazil like me. From food,transportation and safety it made the trip go pretty smoothly.

One more piece of info for people going to Rio for the first time. When you get off the plane . Don't change your money at the currency booth. The rates are really bad. GO to the 3 rd floor walk past the food court and the shopping booth there are several Atm machines you can press money at.

Then Follow Bubba guide and grab a yellow taxi on the 2nd floor.

Happy hunting

I'm hunting for a perfect 10

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Rosine
02-12-07, 23:13
Malay Sparks

The KING of mis-information !!!

You are fucking unbelievable. Never Isolated HIV ??? Better call the NIH and let them know they have it all WRONG !!!

Yes, you can get a false positive ELISA test. Then you would follow up with a more sophisticated test for confirmation.

Malay, please leave it alone. You know NOTHING of whih you speak. But, then again, I suppose you think HIV and AIDS is all a gov't conspiracy, in bed with the pharmaceutical industry of course. Yeah, Uncle Sam and those greedy drug companies, nothing better for them to do, huh ??

GO AWAY, MALAY SPARKS.

HammerTo me, it doesn't matter whether it's been isolated, if it was created or even if it's not actually one disease but rather multiple diseases or strings classified under one heading. The point is that 1. People die from it, whatever it is, 2. it's preventable with precautions like condoms and 3. I don't want it.

The science may have some debate around it, but outcome remains the same.

Shouldn't that be the focus?

Bubba Boy
02-12-07, 23:35
Thanks Hunter for the compliments and for your great report, good to see you got out and about and visited most of the major Termas. That was actually the reason I wrote the my guide, my first week in Rio I wasted a lot of time trying to find addresses etc. Took me 2 weeks to do what Hunter did in 1 week.

I am currently updating my report as we speak. Just putting the finishing touches on it now actually.

Any comments please send them to me.

Almotu
02-13-07, 04:24
Anyone in Rio right now that can report first hand if the shootout in the Kelson Favela over the weekend impacted the GDP regular hunting ground of HELP, Copa Termas and Termas in Centro?

Thanks

Bubba Boy
02-13-07, 04:33
Interesting article on the subject of Favelas. Apparently 90 of the 600 favelas in Rio are now controlled by private Militiars.

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/02/12/rio.violence.ap/index.html

Another interesting article on the violence in Rio. Basically 7 youths were chopped up for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/01/26/brazil.crime.reut/index.html

Mr Enternational
02-13-07, 04:39
One more piece of info for people going to Rio for the first time. When you get off the plane . Don't change your money at the currency booth. The rates are really bad. GO to the 3 rd floor walk past the food court and the shopping booth there are several Atm machines you can press money at.

Then Follow Bubba guide and grab a yellow taxi on the 2nd floor.

Happy hunting

I'm hunting for a perfect 10You made an excellent point Hunter. I ran into a couple at the beach the other day who said they changed money at the booth after clearing immigration and they gave them 1. 85 reais / dollar. I am an ATM man myself. However, if I don't have enough for the bus I usually change about $20 over with the airport guys who you see asking if you need to change money after you exit customs. They are more so on the black market level and you will get a much better rate. I changed over $20 when I arrived last week and he gave me are$41 which adds up to 2. 05. It was not bad seeing that the interbank exchange was 2. 07 that day.

Almotu
02-13-07, 06:20
Anybody know? I remember the access road to a favela only a block or two away from Sa Ferreira and Ave Ns. de Copacabana. I hope this is not where all the shootouts are happening!

Rio Bob
02-13-07, 15:47
But last night we decided to walk up to Balcony. I haven´t been there in a couple of years, but because of the pics that Tom N Jerry posts of the girls he picks up there we decided to give it a try. We got there and did not see anything but rats.

I don´t think I have ever seen so many people in front of Help or at Terraço. But numbers can not take the place of quality. And there was almost 0 quality.


The girls out at Terraca Atlantico are the girls that used to work in Help over 10 years ago or are just plain fugly. Seems to be the same for Balcony bar, I think TomJerry must just always find the few gems in that place.

I was in Help this past weekend, there was some good stuff there, Saturday night I ran in to an old favorite of mine in Help, spent some time bullshitting with her and dancing, I offered her 200, she said sure 200 dollars would be fine, we laughed and went back to my place, didn't get to sleep until 8 in the morning, thank goodness it rained all day Sunday.

Sunday night in Help was packed for a Sunday, my friends and I had a table in the back, I picked another repeat, one of these 1.75 tall blonds from Espirito Santo, very stunning, dressed well a real class act. One of my friends told me that he didn't think she was my style that she was more his style and he wanted her. When I went to the bathroom, behind my back he asked her to go with him instead of me, she said sure 1000 reais. She finally went down to 600 reais. I gave her 200 as I did most girls from Help and others 150.

El Austriaco
02-13-07, 22:44
Anyone in Rio right now that can report first hand if the shootout in the Kelson Favela over the weekend impacted the GDP regular hunting ground of HELP, Copa Termas and Termas in Centro?
When you land in Rio, what is the first thing you see once you are on the ground? Right, that church on the hill. That's Nossa Senhora da Penha, in the Penha favela.

Reading a few reports on this inicident, it seems to me like the Kelson favela is part of the Penha complex. The Kelson favela occupies an area close to Avenida Brasil, one of the main access roads of Rio, behind the area of the old Kelson belt and bag factory, hence the name.

Apparently, Kelson has been a battleground since December, when a militia formed by members of the Military Police (PM) and firefighters took over control, thereby kicking out the Comando Vermelho, one of Rio's most notorious crime gangs. It also looks like this incident was in retaliation against some former CV members believed to have "betrayed" their gang. In the process, they also didn't mind killing a PM captain in an effort to weaken the militia.

http://www.oi.com.br/data/Pages/FB2B9BA2ITEMIDAE5229BEA8894FA6954BBA7D7C919299PTBRIE.htm

Can't really imagine that this incident, which occured far far away from Zona Sul, would have impacted the action in Copacabana or in Centro.

EA

El Austriaco
02-13-07, 23:11
The girls out at Terraca Atlantico are the girls that used to work in Help over 10 years ago or are just plain fugly.
IMHO and with all due respect, I think you are wrong with this statement.

IMHO, the girls in front of Help (i.e., at TA) are either

1) Girls that hang out there and go to Help later,
2) Girls that want to go to Help, but can't because they don't have the entrance fee and have to find a gringo to pay it for them,
3) Girls that for whatever reason, do not like to work inside of Help (perhaps because of the R$ 22/R$ 32 entrance fee and the pressure it creates), but like some of the pre-Help crowd (i.e., mostly ignorant tourists). Or because of GDP turf wars and jealousies.

IMHO, it's useless trying to define which place has better girls, because the girls move around so much and will work wherever they can, whenever they can. In other words, a girl you will find one day at Help, you might find at Balcony the next day, or at Meia Pataca, or on the pista. It really just depends on whatever she thinks is her best option at the time.

Yes, there are SOME girls that you usually only see at Help and nowhere else, but you will be surprised what you see when you hang out in Rio months at a time. These girls might be far fewer than you think. I am saying this as someone who, for example, has gotten smashed drinking beers with some Help regulars on Prado Júnior into the early morning hours, where I picked them up close to Barbarella while they were on the lookout for R$ 50 customers at 3 in the morning.

EA

Jan 156
02-14-07, 01:12
IMHO, the girls in front of Help (i.e., at TA) are either
1) Girls that hang out there and go to Help later,
2) Girls that want to go to Help, but can't because they don't have the entrance fee and have to find a gringo to pay it for them,
3) Girls that for whatever reason, do not like to work inside of Help (perhaps because of the R$ 22/R$ 32 entrance fee and the pressure it creates), but like some of the pre-Help crowd (i.e., mostly ignorant tourists). Or because of GDP turf wars and jealousies.
IMHO, it's useless trying to define which place has better girls, because the girls move around so much and will work wherever they can, whenever they can. In other words, a girl you will find one day at Help, you might find at Balcony the next day, or at Meia Pataca, or on the pista. It really just depends on whatever she thinks is her best option at the time.

Yes, there are SOME girls that you usually only see at Help and nowhere else, but you will be surprised what you see when you hang out in Rio months at a time. These girls might be far fewer than you think. I am saying this as someone who, for example, has gotten smashed drinking beers with some Help regulars on Prado Júnior into the early morning hours, where I picked them up close to Barbarella while they were on the lookout for R$ 50 customers at 3 in the morning.
EA

I've quoted most of your post as it tends to gel with my own experience. I know or have known one or two girls quite well (either by living with them GFE-ing as a non paying 'customer' or by getting to know them as mates over a period of years) and of course they are not representative but they do remind me that most working girls (including their friends) see themselves as people with a degree of choice!

Girls often change their working practice from time to time. It can be as simple as having fallen out with another girl who goes to such-and-such place (often over 'stealing' customers). Brasilians can also be very faithful as friends and go to a place cos their pals go there. A lot of girls don't limit themselves to one venue. Look at the sheer scale of things, and also that many girls don't work every night. They often choose where to work on how it fits in with their lifestyle or if they are on a roll there, and it's hard for a punter to keep track and very easy to imagine some sort of pattern.

btw I also like finding Help girls near Prado Jnr, but this area is def not for newbies. You can get some lovely GFEs but you can also get ripped off there faster than anywhere.

The scene in front of Help often changes, like anywhere else - but at least it's free to check out. Balcony changes a lot too, and it's smaller so the changes are more noticeable IMO.

Another reason girls go to Help is cos they enjoy it. Dancing all night beats sitting around in a terma. Similarly, the bar outside can have quite a party atmosphere.

Ee2002
02-14-07, 22:25
i would also like to add that garotas who never go inside help might be ****.help requires an id and they must be 18years and above.

Rio Bob
02-14-07, 23:10
IMHO and with all due respect, I think you are wrong with this statement.

IMHO, the girls in front of Help (i.e., at TA) are either

1) Girls that hang out there and go to Help later,
2) Girls that want to go to Help, but can't because they don't have the entrance fee and have to find a gringo to pay it for them,
3) Girls that for whatever reason, do not like to work inside of Help (perhaps because of the R$ 22/R$ 32 entrance fee and the pressure it creates), but like some of the pre-Help crowd (i.e., mostly ignorant tourists). Or because of GDP turf wars and jealousies.

IMHO, it's useless trying to define which place has better girls, because the girls move around so much and will work wherever they can, whenever they can. In other words, a girl you will find one day at Help, you might find at Balcony the next day, or at Meia Pataca, or on the pista. It really just depends on whatever she thinks is her best option at the time.

Yes, there are SOME girls that you usually only see at Help and nowhere else, but you will be surprised what you see when you hang out in Rio months at a time. These girls might be far fewer than you think. I am saying this as someone who, for example, has gotten smashed drinking beers with some Help regulars on Prado Júnior into the early morning hours, where I picked them up close to Barbarella while they were on the lookout for R$ 50 customers at 3 in the morning.

EA

You have written a lot of good reasons why the girls are at Terraca Atlantico and Ill bet they're all true including the one about the age of the girls below. But all I said is that my opinion is that for the most part recently I have seen mostly old and ugly girls there after midnight. That's just my opinion.

What you said about the girls moving around is true but for sure there are girls that go to Help that you will never see in MP, TA, Balcony, Ho Beach or hanging out at Prado Junior at 3 in the am as left overs.

Green Banana
02-14-07, 23:44
Just to remind that all termas listed here do accept euros and dollars at a proper rate - last week I changed €1 to 2.60 R$ - same rate for Luomo, 65 and MC.

Smart, convenient, aconchegante: I love Rio.

Rio Bob
02-15-07, 00:39
This past Saturday in Rio was a glorious day, sun shining not a cloud in the sky. I walked along the water from the Marriott hotel in Copacabana to the Caesar Park hotel in Ipanema. The beach was packed in front of Caesar Park. I ran into some familiar faces from the Ho beach/MP area and other old friends. I also ran into 4 buddies of mine that is their first time in Rio.

They told me that they preferred the beach here rather than HO beach for numerous reasons but they also told me that they felt it was too expensive in front of the othon palace. I was with them when they were in front of the Othon Palace 2 days ago and asked them what they paid and they told me that they paid for me and them for all the chairs and beers. The guy over charged them because I paid for myself too, this was from Jose from Baracca CI CI. It goes without saying he is a thief, that’s why I never sit there because I am on vacation and don’t need to have to watch every move they make but he pretends to be my friend so when I do stay there I use him. I went back on Monday and saw Jose there and told him he charged my friends for my drinks and chair and later charged me for my drinks and chair. He agreed and apologized, I told him that you pretend to be my friend but now you proved that you are not and you need to refund me my money now. He told me to come back at 4 pm, I told him I want the money now or I will go over to every CI CI chair and tell them you are a thief and everyone you hawk today. He stuck his hand in his pocket and gave me my money back. As you all know these guys are thieves this is nothing new it’s in the Bubba report.

Let’s get back to Saturday, so we are all sitting around on the beach and these guys ask me about Centaurus. First time in Rio and I mentioned the Termas concept to them before. Keep in mind I am not a termas type of guy, I only been to Centaurus 1 time before. I again explained to them the deal, it sounded like a good option for a Saturday at 6 PM. We left the beach got a taxi all 5 of us to 44 Rua Canning.

When we entered the Termas my friends had many questions of the front desk girl, one was can I go in and just see what the girls look like before I pay the whole 310 reais? She said no but you can pay 90 reais just to enter and if you pick a girl you can then pay the additional 220 reais . They agreed and put it all on a credit card and for that service I believe it was an additional 15 reais per person.

When we entered the change room we were attacked by 5 ugly girls to help us get undressed and show us around, I told my friends not to worry that this isn’t what you’re going to see inside.

When we entered the boite same thing like flies on shit girls all over us again I told them to calm down and choose wisely. I told maybe 4 or 5 girls to move on. I went to the bar for a drink by myself while all my friends were occupied. This goddess walks up to me 1.8 tall blond and close to perfection as one can be, her name was Giovanna.

At the bar she goes right into this DFK and hand under the robe type of thing, I told her look what you did to me now I can’t go walk over and talk to my friends.

I make it over to my friends and they all seem very happy with their choices. One of my friends had 2 of my cast offs and he was taking them both, he told me that you pay 1 at full price and the second you get at half price.

We all go to the cabins at the same time, with this Giovanna in the cabine its BBBJ, DFK, DATY doggie , mission and then she says to me she wants CIM, sounded good to me and that’s how I finished.

Got back to my apartment went to sleep at 9 pm, woke up at midnight, had 3 red bull and whiskey while I got dressed . Hit Bob’s for a hamburger, was inside Help by 1:15 AM found an old favorite and did it all over again till 8 in the morning.

Bubba Boy
02-15-07, 03:11
Here is an interesting article on a supposedly new happening in the Favelas in Rio. Apparently private militiars now control 100 of the 600 favelas. They local residents pay the militiars somewhere around R15 per month to keep the drug gangs out of the favelas.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/americas/6352759.stm

Hell frozen over? Firstly, because Bob actually visited a terma and secondly, because he actually paid me a compliment of sorts.

Mr Enternational
02-15-07, 04:50
I was with them when they were in front of the Othon Palace 2 days ago and asked them what they paid and they told me that they paid for me and them for all the chairs and beers. The guy over charged them because I paid for myself too, this was from Jose from Baracca CI CI. Man that is so damn funny. I was right there late Saturday morning and early afternoon. I met a couple from L.A. at the kiosk. It was their first time in Rio. They said that they had done nothing the whole trip but go to the beach. They had used Jose the first day and he charged them R$45 for two chairs, an umbrella, and some water. But each day after he would charge them less. I told them that I always use Walter. He does business the right way. I introduced them and he said he would charge them R$18 for 2 big chairs and an umbrella. They went and told Jose and he decided to bring his price down to 18 as well.

I advised them that anytime they are at a beach (or anywhere for that matter) and do not know the vendors that they should always ask the price of everything and write it on a piece of paper each time they consume. That way you keep your own running tab and don't have to worry about an inflated amount when it's time to pay the bill.

JohnnyBlazze
02-15-07, 21:22
Fellas,
I will be there on Saturday, wanted to know how crowded the Termas and Help was getting as it is so close to Carnaval. Also how have you fared on prices, have you been able to get girls home from Help for less than 300R? I have always found it difficult to get a girl for less than 250R at Help. Once or twice got a girl for 200R but that was not the norm in my experience. I am dreading what the cost might be w/ so many extra wallets around.

Regards,
Johnny B

Abbot200
02-15-07, 22:04
I highly recommend Karina, I met her last Sunday in front of Help disco.

She is the best looking girl I've ever seen and it was the best experience I´ve had with a garota!

She is not the cheapest girl I met (she charged me R$200 for 1 hour) but she is worth every cent and she promised me she will give me a better price next time. I will definitely not miss her offer.

Her phone number is 021-96153538

She has got a personal website with many photos of herself: www.adultwork.com/128932

Jan 156
02-16-07, 01:44
They had used Jose the first day and he charged them R$45 for two chairs, an umbrella, and some water. But each day after he would charge them less. I told them that I always use Walter. He does business the right way. I introduced them and he said he would charge them R$18 for 2 big chairs and an umbrella. They went and told Jose and he decided to bring his price down to 18 as well.

I advised them that anytime they are at a beach (or anywhere for that matter) and do not know the vendors that they should always ask the price of everything and write it on a piece of paper each time they consume. That way you keep your own running tab and don't have to worry about an inflated amount when it's time to pay the bill.Those sound pretty crazy prices to me. In my experience prices can vary with the beach spot and even time of year, but if I'm not sure I always *ask a garota* (before the beach boys approach you) and she will be happy to tell you the 'fixed' (correct) price. Then when they ask for more, just firmly correct them. The only people who will argue at that point (if you quote the correct carioca price with confidence) are the sharks, especially near the tourist rip-off hotspots. It's the same with the occasional restaurant in Copa. But many of the beach lads take a pride in being honest (so you'll come back to them).

Trippleecks
02-16-07, 12:24
Abbot200. The phone number you listed for her is not her number. Just called it and it's not hers.

Now since the webpage you gave has her in London, I am wondering if anything you posted about you being with her is for real.

Stoker Star
02-16-07, 16:03
Stick with Walter, he is honest and will keep the riff-raff away.

Abbot200
02-16-07, 18:34
Nodd N,

I confirm the phone number of Karina is the one I posted, I have a business card of her with me. Maybe she went back to London because I understood she was in Brazil for holiday and was planning to fly back to Europe. I come from Europe as well and she told me we could meet us there as well. But I didn´t know she was about to fly back so early, I was already thinking to call her again here in Brazil. Sorry if my information come unuseful and late.

Rio Bob
02-16-07, 22:18
Hell frozen over? Firstly, because Bob actually visited a terma and secondly, because he actually paid me a compliment of sorts.

The funny thing is when I was explaining to them the Termas concept and they said lets go, I cringed. I really didn't want to go, it was my second time in Centaurus and the first time I went was several years ago and the only reason I went is because I really just wanted to see what all the fuss was about. After the first time I went to Centaurus I said to myself, it was great but no reason to return. I went this time because my friends wanted me to go. I enjoy more of a club/Disco type of place, like you know what. Where you can meet, talk, drink, dance and then leave together like a one night stand slipping her a small present in the morning for cab fareR200.

On the other hand you wrote an excellent comprehensive guide to Rio. I have been going to Rio for 27 years and my MO in Rio is very simple: Beach/Eat/Help so even though I have scanned your guide, it's more useful for a monger with a different profile than me. Therefore less oppurtunity to give you compliments but I see you get plenty of well deserved ones. We may have gotten off on the wrong foot several years ago by something I said but I don't want to have any problems with anybody here and the other thread that we have been communicating in lately is just a difference of opinion, which is probably a good thing, it makes this board richer.

Ryjerrob
02-16-07, 23:02
Hey All,

I just came across this site. Does anyone know any of the girls?

http://www.copamodel.com/

Ryjer

Wild Cherokee
02-17-07, 09:40
Has anyone suffered GDP exchange rate syndrome? Since returning from our recent trips to Rio, my buddies and I have it bad. Is goes something like this (all US dollars):

$100.00 savings on a brake job (on the SUV) = 1 TLN in Brazil*
$100.00 savings on groceries (with coupons and bonus card) = 1 TLN in Brazil*
$40.00 savings at dinner (skip drinks and dessert) = 30 minutes session at NS Copa Cabana 583
$200.00 savings on airfare = A good time at L’uomos
$5.00 savings by not stopping at Dairy Queen = quickie in VM

Has anyone else been affected by this enjoyable phenomenon?

(assumes that you NEVER pay more than 200R and cab fare for a TLN)

Abzsafado
02-17-07, 15:56
When I went to the bathroom, behind my back he asked her to go with him instead of me, she said sure 1000 reais. She finally went down to 600 reais. I gave her 200 as I did most girls from Help and others 150.I am a bit confused by this. Does it mean you agreed the price at 600 and then only gave her 200 in the morning or does it mean she accepted your offer of 200 before the act. If its the first one then I think you are playing a dangerous game and she is pretty dumb for not asking for the cash up front.

Abzsafado
02-17-07, 16:12
Did any body else witness the big catfight in Meia Pattica on wednesday.

I was walking up the beach when I saw a definite 10 approaching she was too good to miss so I wheeled round and gave it the old " Oi gostosa pra onde voce vai", "So estou caminhando" she replys. I dont know about you guys but I haven't seen too many babes out exercising in 4 inh heels. Anyway, we walk we talk I ask her if she wants a beer we sit and chat a while in a quiosque. Turns out she is from the south is up here for carnival normally works in bahamas in SP. She wants to know if I know where she can work here. So I tell her a few places I know etc etc. I already had a date for the night and by this time it was getting near to 6pm she needs a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and I am a bit hungry so I take her over to Meia Pattica. I am just showing her round a bit. We were only there about 5 minutes when a couple of girls started arguing. They had been drinking champagne with some mongers and were a bit drunk. Next thing they started trading slaps then a crowd of their friends waded in. They got split up eventually then it kicked off again, one of the girls got a bit of a beating and things were getting ugly, shoes were off those sexy chain belts were getting wrapped round fists. Things calmed down eventually but my young lady from the south was not at all impressed by thge working girls of Rio.

Abbot200
02-17-07, 19:59
Hello mates,

Browsing through this forum I just noticed that there is no mention to an escort website I found with plenty of beautiful garotas.

I used this website last month and the 2 girls I booked were amazing, nothing to compare with the ones I met at help disco and thermas. I had a real GFE with them.
Just have a look, they usually charge between 150 and 200 reais per hour.

http://www.hotside.com.br/hotside.htm

Wild Cherokee
02-18-07, 16:31
I have not seen a true cat-fight in Rio. The only two confrontations I know are:

1) My friends, while waiting for me, saw some guys beating up an old lady (seriously) by a bar downstairs from L'uomos. All the guys in the group (6 or 7) participated. My friends were appalled to say the least but no so inclined as to intervene, especially at 12pm on a Saturday night with knowledge that a favela entrance is only a block away. Even the cab drivers sitting outside just idly watched.

2) On a lighter note, in Help, my friend began talking to a GDP at the bar. They had a few minutes of conversation over a drink until she excused herself to go the bathroom. When she returned she found that my friend was still at the bar but talking to another GDP who had stepped in her place. She tapped the other GDP on the shoulder and they proceeded to exchange some heated words. Surprisingly, no cat fight though. Instead she reached over to my friend's shirt, grabbed his sunglasses which were hanging from his shirt and snapped them in half. She then slammed them on the bar. My friend was stunned. HILARIOUS! A GDP tantrum! I told my friend to take it as a compliment. Lucky for my friend they were only $5.00 USD faux designer (we know better than to carry anything of value around Rio, especially at night).

WC

Wild Cherokee
02-18-07, 16:46
Hello mates,

Browsing through this forum I just noticed that there is no mention to an escort website I found with plenty of beautiful garotas.

I used this website last month and the 2 girls I booked were amazing, nothing to compare with the ones I met at help disco and thermas. I had a real GFE with them.
Just have a look, they usually charge between 150 and 200 reais per hour.

http://www.hotside.com.br/hotside.htmI just can't see myself using an escort service. Two reasons:

1) You don't know if you're going to get what's advertised. She may not look as good in person. The photographs usually represent their best shot (out of 50 to 100 digital shots) on their best day (plenty of preparation leading up to the shoot) with make-up, lighting, photoshop (the last one is a biggie) etc. All thrown into the mix. I can't imagine myself expecting a "10" based upon the pictures advertised and actually having that "10" ring my doorbell. Probably more like a 6 or 7 would show up.

2) 150 to 200 reais per hour is just too high. Especially when you take into consideration that you can easily have a TLN for that price. Even most of the terma girls can be had for this rate with a little negotiation. It just takes the right attitude, the right words and a little charm.

I prefer the thrill of the hunt and value for services provided. Just my two cents.

WC

Rio Bob
02-18-07, 20:04
I am a bit confused by this. Does it mean you agreed the price at 600 and then only gave her 200 in the morning or does it mean she accepted your offer of 200 before the act. If its the first one then I think you are playing a dangerous game and she is pretty dumb for not asking for the cash up front.Sorry about the confusion, I was talking about my friend, she agreed to 600 with him but I guess he wouldn't pay and for him she wouldn't go down anymore. I had already agreed upon 200 and I had already been with her before so we didn't even talk about it this time. Your right, you need to be completely clear and upfront about prices.