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Benjoe
04-21-08, 17:37
you know what would be nice for people who havnt been to a terma or seen one, what does one look like, if you have help pics thats would be cool too.
go to this site, scroll down and click on "l'uomo". i don't know who these guys are in the website or anything about the website, but the l'uomo link is a great peek. management let these guys bring a camcorder into the terma.
http://www.totallyrio.com/

Jan 156
04-21-08, 18:24
are Casas de Massagems the same as thermas?

The upmarket (ie expensive) 'termas' or houses ('casas')sometimes distinguish themselves by a different name but they are all fixed price, fairly fixed time. The cheapest (10R) have very basic amenities - usually scruffy entrance, option to buy a beer, curtained off room and mattresses and sheets that may have seen better days and other cheapskate punters. The upper end - at up to 200 times the price, have the same deal but posh entrance, option to buy slightly pricier beer, modern clean decor, relaxation areas and so on, usually with a bigger selection of girls and a more consistent standard of beauty. Whatever you call them, they are a very different option to Help Disco and the Boite (Bar) scene - where you usually negotiate from a very high starting price to a fairly high price but can be entertained more thoroughly while the drinks help you to open your wallet.

I go to Help very occasionally for entertainment but rarely for sex. It simulates a 'normal' disco atmosphere though, which the termas don't, so it is easier to believe the girl is showing genuine interest. Girls in Help and the bars need greater sales skills then the display-play-'n'-pay options of the termas.

Tjmee
04-21-08, 19:24
Thanks for the links, now I have an idea of what a terma is and what its like. LOL

Benjoe
04-21-08, 22:28
Thanks for the links, now I have an idea of what a terma is and what its like. LOL
The video clip on L'Uomo applies to all the major termas.
Centro: 4/4 (100-150 women), 65 (50-70). Aeroporto (25-40), Cancun (30-50) and Rio Antigo (30-40)
Copacabana: Monte Carlo (25-40), L'Uomo (25-40)and Centaurus (35-50)
Jardim Botanico: Solarium (25-40)
The number of women can vary from day-to-day with the weekend days having the fewest in the tourist termas; the Centro ones are closed on the weekends. The women sit in the bar (boite) and wait for your ass to show-up. They feel you up, they play with your rod, you feel them up, they dfk you, they give you lap dances and THEN you go to the cabine to have sex. The amount and length of the foreplay in the bar depends upon location. The women in the Centro tend to be less playful, because the braileiros do all that I mentioned for 30 minutes to an hour and then ditch the garotas without going to the cabine. Needless to say, the garotas get pissed off and are less apt to play around with the next guy. If they know that you will take them to the cabine, they will be playful. The garotas in Copacabana and Solarium are very playful, because tourists are sure to go to the cabine after the foreplay. Termas etiquette in the tourist termas dictates that after dfk you've signaled your intention to taking the garota "pra cima."

Pana Nyc
04-22-08, 06:16
Start to offer 50% off the entrance fee http://www.luomo.com.br/pop_50off.html?????.

Latino Rio
04-22-08, 18:01
go to this site, scroll down and click on "l'uomo". i don't know who these guys are in the website or anything about the website, but the l'uomo link is a great peek. management let these guys bring a camcorder into the terma.
http://www.totallyrio.com/if you look here (http://www.totallyrio.com/testimonials.asp) you can see that it was part of a playboy tv's sexcetera show (from july 2003).

Shemp
04-23-08, 05:17
Has anyone been up to the Barra termas lately? I'm going to be in Rio in a couple of weeks & I was wondering if a night exploring Praia Club 400, Cafe Paris & Ancora de Recreio would be worth the time heading out there. A report on any recent experiences would be appreciated.


Shemp

Benjoe
04-23-08, 14:04
If you look here (http://www.totallyrio.com/testimonials.asp) you can see that it was part of a Playboy TV's Sexcetera Show (from July 2003).
2003 sounds right. None of the women in the video work there anymore. It was a good time for L'Uomo -- a blast from the past. I was there in March and thought it was going downhill. Of course, termas live a roller coaster existence in terms of talent. It could be good now -- or maybe not.

Schaf29
04-24-08, 06:16
Dear All,

Just had a very bad experience with a help girl called Sonia. She is about 165, with heels much taller, faked blonde long hair, big tits with a wonderbra, nice ass and good face, in her late 20th I guess.

At Help we had a nice conversation, she passed the full screening process easily, she smiled to offer everything, kissed me more or less passionately and I thought this will be a good night.

In my room everything went out well at the beginning, we had a beer, I went to the shower, then she took one, we kissed and teased and then she started to ask for the money (250 including anal, 200 without) upfront. I said I will pay her in the morning and definitely not before anything happened. She insisted and I was loosing the spirit and told her that I will never ever pay before as I would never ever pay a plumber upfront before he fixed the problem. Then the drama began. I pointed her towards the door and said this is it and I do not want anymore, I offered her 30 Real for the taxi and whatsoever, but she insisted in the total price and would not leave. She started screaming at me, throwing books at me and when I tried to call the reception she freaked out completely. Finally I called the reception and asked for security to throw her out, but then she talked about her friends within the police. I argued that I have a diplomatic passport and so on, but she would not leave, just yelled. Finally the bellboy came, then the receptionist, she made phone calls and she threatened me to be killed next time I will be going to Help and so on. What should I have done? Please anybody with some experience give me some advise for the future?

I finally gave her 40 Euro and agreed with her to have a good time in Help. I doubt. What do you think? Can I go back there or shold I be careful?

It is not that I am a newbie, but something like this was really new to me.

Some other reports about terma and massagem will follow soon, but please let me know if I can go to Help tomorrow again? !

Schaf

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HoleRanger
04-24-08, 12:37
I always let them know I never pay until the deed is done (this varies)sometimes I will pay half upfront if I see something I just got to have. Termas are obviously a different story. Then they can make a decision if they want to keep trolling or take my arrangement. There is always another one waiting for her turn and most are ok with the arrangement. If they insist in all upfront, I just say goodbye. Most of us have had at least one bad experience, you learn and move on to the next conquest:)

Enjoy!

Jan 156
04-24-08, 14:21
Dear All,

Just had a very bad experience with a help girl called Sonia. She is about 165, with heels much taller, faked blonde long hair, big tits with a wonderbra, nice ass and good face, in her late 20th I guess.

At Help we had a nice conversation, she passed the full screening process easily, she smiled to offer everything, kissed me more or less passionately and I thought this will be a good night.

In my room everything went out well at the beginning, we had a beer, I went to the shower, then she took one, we kissed and teased and then she started to ask for the money (250 including anal, 200 without) upfront. I said I will pay her in the morning and definitely not before anything happened. She insisted and I was loosing the spirit and told her that I will never ever pay before as I would never ever pay a plumber upfront before he fixed the problem. Then the drama began. I pointed her towards the door and said this is it and I do not want anymore, I offered her 30 Real for the taxi and whatsoever, but she insisted in the total price and would not leave. She started screaming at me, throwing books at me and when I tried to call the reception she freaked out completely. Finally I called the reception and asked for security to throw her out, but then she talked about her friends within the police. I argued that I have a diplomatic passport and so on, but she would not leave, just yelled. Finally the bellboy came, then the receptionist, she made phone calls and she threatened me to be killed next time I will be going to Help and so on. What should I have done? Please anybody with some experience give me some advise for the future?

I finally gave her 40 Euro and agreed with her to have a good time in Help. I doubt. What do you think? Can I go back there or shold I be careful?

It is not that I am a newbie, but something like this was really new to me.

Some other reports about terma and massagem will follow soon, but please let me know if I can go to Help tomorrow again? !



Usually this sort of stuff is just talk, with loads of dramatics based on telenovas. But why not let her cool off a bit just to be on the safe side? You could go somewhere else for a night or two. I can't imagine anyone getting done over inside Help, and stalking someone outside for a 'grudge' probably won't seem worth it. If she's a nut she might try to cause a bit of a scene or turn people against you inside, but again, hardly worth bothering about - but I'd go somewhere else just for tonight just to clear your head and get a nice vibe. Why not L'Uomo? Just up the road . . .

As to what you 'should have done' - it sounds like you did the right things anyway. 40 Euro was quite generous, but if she's come all the way back to your apartment and spent time showering and kissing and cuddling then she will feel she needs something for her time.

I had a similiar experience with a girl who claimed she was formerly Barbarella's (warning bells for me) just before she asked for cash. I just went freakin' nuts at her and flung her bag at the door, started screamin' and stuff. In other words, the exact same body language she would probably have used (and your girl maybe used from the sound of it) a moment later. It nocks 'em off balance, let's you keep the upper hand. Don't blame yourself though, just chalk it down to a bummer night and get a sh*g elsewhere to cheer yourself up!

Rio Bob
04-24-08, 14:31
Dear All,

Just had a very bad experience with a help girl called Sonia.


Schaf, looks like you got unlucky at Help, it happens to all of us once in a while.

But IMHO I think you did the right thing first by not paying her up front, because as you know she would have cheated you but you would have had less drama. I like your analogy about the plumber, LOL.

As far as her threats are concerned, I wouldn't worry too much about them, she was just trying to squeeze as much money out of you as she can, empty threats. If you go to Help and see her just ignore her, she will just be looking for work, she doesn't want to cause trouble there because she works there and she doesn't want to be banned from entering Help which they will do to her if she is a trouble maker.

You gave her 40 Euros? How much is that about 100 reais? You were more than generous, she deserved at most cab fare but not even.

When I encounter a problem like this I find it best to avoid a confrontation, like try to get her out of the apartment without letting her know there is a problem, like you forgot something downstairs or you forgot your wallet at Help. Like say to her sweetheart I have to go back to Help and get my wallet, my friend has it and then when you arrive back to Help just split on her. Like as soon as they ask for the money up front, don’t even argue because there is no sense, this immediately tells you she is a bad one and you got unlucky, so just get rid of her but don’t let her know you’re getting rid of her until she can’t do nothing about it, like standing in front of Help with no reentrance fee in her hand, that’ll teach her.

Sperto
04-24-08, 14:47
Just had a very bad experience with a help girl called Sonia... What should I have done?
I agree with Christopherd that you did well, even though 40 Euros was way to much.

I've been in your situation a couple of times. The girl starts to threaten you with her gangster friends and police friends, making phonecalls etc. Mostly these threats are just empty. Like a small dog barking at a big dog.

I see three soultions:
1. A drastic solution, the worst one, is just to throw her out without any discussions at all, dressed or naked. Then she might make a lot of noise on the outside and disturb your neighbours. Not good at all.
2. Another solution is to be just calm. Sit down and relax, have a beer, turn on the TV and ignore her totally. Finally she'll get tired of arguing and leave.
3. The best solution and the most important is to get her out of your room/apartment. Leave your place together with her. Carry her on your back if you have to. When you get out on the street tell her goodbye and go back inside. Tell the porteiro or the receptionist not to let her back inside.

Bravo
04-24-08, 14:50
shaf, dont worry about it. every prostitute in help swears they have a death squad of favela hoods on speed dial!! its all bullshit!! in all the years i have been going to brasil, i dont know of even one case where a tourist got hurt because of a disagreement with a hoe.

sperto gave great advice. you can tell her that "you are willing to pay more money for all night, but you need to go to the atm first". once you get her outside, just walk back in and slam the gate closed behind you.

Schaf29
04-24-08, 16:00
Hi Guys,

Thanks very much for your comments, they do calm me down very much and are of outmost help.

Now I have to decide what to do with my last night in Rio. Go back to Help and try my luck with another one or do something else? I will see later, now I go for a quick and nasty shag at some massagem to get done what I missed last night.

By the way, yesterday afternoon I was at NS Copa 583, Appt 204. Funny experience, I came in and the room was completely packed. They asked 100 for one girl, could look around first (you can also go in and have drinks), but was pretty hard as people were so squeezed in that you nearly could not move. I saw a tall garota, short dark hair, nice body and smiling face. Decided to go with her immediately as I had to get rid of some boiling things in my balls after having been at the beach seeing all those beauties. So I paid my 100Real and off we went pressing our bodies through the cheering crowd in the back. WOW. What a shithole. A small cabin with bed linen that was probably changed the last time when Rio was still the capital of Brazil. Well, sometimes I like it dirty and so I slipped my pants down, she sat on the bed and started to give me a nice BBBJ, after a while she stood up, turned around and explaned me I could shag her BB for 20 more. Even if sometimes I feel tempted for going BB, nonono way in here. I asked her just to finish me of with a BJ which she did, came over her tits finally.

Not for every day, but for a quick and nasty one this can be funny.

Take care,

Schaf

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Schaf29
04-24-08, 23:03
dear fellow mongers,

i understand more and more why so many dodgy guys like myself love rio. you can make outstanding new experiences here.

after my last night disaster i left my hotel (by the way, atlantico copacabana, very girl friendly and the suite i have is huge, two rooms and everything is fine for less than 100us a night, jacuzzi and sauna in the room as well) and was not sure what to do first, so i thought i deserve to see some pink pussy and then i can decide what next.

so i went to the miami peep, got 15 tokens for 15 real and 6 minutes in a private cabin. the cabin has a glass between you and the girl, but at the top there is an opening of about 20cm. well i did not think much about it and thought nothing than watching pussy will and should happen anyway. i decided for one girl after having had a look at the pictures, put in my tokens and pressed the button with her number. a minute later she came in and looked really gourgeous. she started talking to me in porto, i apologised for not understanding a single word and she started dancing and getting rid of her bikini, sat down, rubbed her pussy and ass and then explained me with gestures that i could touch her for 10real more. i thought for half a second and came to the conclusion that touching these nice tits is worth a go, so i stood up and put my fingers through the little spot, she explained me to stand on the little stool. ok, well, i thought that better be good brazilian quality for my 100 kilo body and up i went. she dragged my hand through the spot and put it right into, and i mean into, her pussy. that was all slightly uncomfortable, but damn, as i realized i can also put finger into her ass i did not think about possible bruises under my arms from the window. neither did she worry about her arms i realised when she put her arm out to my side took my cock and started wanking it. she gave me a hand job! while i had one hand around and inside her openings and the other hand on the window trying to not fall down from that damn little wooden stool.

that was all so bizarr and at the same time highly unexpected and by that turning me on that i managed to come within my five minutes all over the glass. poor mob brigade who had to clean up afterwards.

she smiled and i gave her the 10 real which she accepted happily and left through a little whole in the wall behind her.

i stood there, looking down at me if there are any leftovers on my trousers and smiled happily about not seeing any.

then i left and outside in bright light i realised that a damn big drop of my sperm was on my left shoe. well, i tried to discretely rub it off with my right shoe, but i can tell you that is not so easy, this is pretty glewy. anyway, i made it and had another incredible new experince. you can get wanked off for 25 real in a mini private porn cabine by a lovely young lady and the only thing you have to worry about is bruises under your arms and some sperm on your shoes. whereelse in the world does this happen? i don't know.

have fun,

schaf

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Rio Bob
04-25-08, 00:33
(by the way, Atlantico Copacabana, very girl friendly and the suite I have is huge, two rooms and everything is fine for less than 100US a night, jacuzzi and Sauna in the room as well)

I took a look at their website not bad for the price. When you say girl friendly, do they charge extra for each girl you bring in the room?

With apartment prices going up it might make sense to stay in a hotel like this for the price.

JohnnyBraz
04-25-08, 04:18
Dear All,

Just had a very bad experience with a help girl called Sonia. She is about 165, with heels much taller, faked blonde long hair, big tits with a wonderbra, nice ass and good face, in her late 20th I guess.

At Help we had a nice conversation, she passed the full screening process easily, she smiled to offer everything, kissed me more or less passionately and I thought this will be a good night.

In my room everything went out well at the beginning, we had a beer, I went to the shower, then she took one, we kissed and teased and then she started to ask for the money (250 including anal, 200 without) upfront. I said I will pay her in the morning and definitely not before anything happened. She insisted and I was loosing the spirit and told her that I will never ever pay before as I would never ever pay a plumber upfront before he fixed the problem. Then the drama began. I pointed her towards the door and said this is it and I do not want anymore, I offered her 30 Real for the taxi and whatsoever, but she insisted in the total price and would not leave. She started screaming at me, throwing books at me and when I tried to call the reception she freaked out completely. Finally I called the reception and asked for security to throw her out, but then she talked about her friends within the police. I argued that I have a diplomatic passport and so on, but she would not leave, just yelled. Finally the bellboy came, then the receptionist, she made phone calls and she threatened me to be killed next time I will be going to Help and so on. What should I have done? Please anybody with some experience give me some advise for the future?

I finally gave her 40 Euro and agreed with her to have a good time in Help. I doubt. What do you think? Can I go back there or shold I be careful?

It is not that I am a newbie, but something like this was really new to me.

Some other reports about terma and massagem will follow soon, but please let me know if I can go to Help tomorrow again? !

SchafDo you have any photo's off sonia? Personally I would not have given her any money at all, and would have removed her from the room, told reception to bar her, and headed straight back to help to pick up the next women, or if it was closed phoned an escort. By you giving in to her and giving her 40 euro, about 100 reals, you are leaving it open for her and others to try it on.

Looking For Eden
04-25-08, 04:55
Dear All,

Just had a very bad experience with a help girl called Sonia. She is about 165, with heels much taller, faked blonde long hair, big tits with a wonderbra, nice ass and good face, in her late 20th I guess.

At Help we had a nice conversation, she passed the full screening process easily, she smiled to offer everything, kissed me more or less passionately and I thought this will be a good night.

In my room everything went out well at the beginning, we had a beer, I went to the shower, then she took one, we kissed and teased and then she started to ask for the money (250 including anal, 200 without) upfront. I said I will pay her in the morning and definitely not before anything happened. She insisted and I was loosing the spirit and told her that I will never ever pay before as I would never ever pay a plumber upfront before he fixed the problem. Then the drama began. I pointed her towards the door and said this is it and I do not want anymore, I offered her 30 Real for the taxi and whatsoever, but she insisted in the total price and would not leave. She started screaming at me, throwing books at me and when I tried to call the reception she freaked out completely. Finally I called the reception and asked for security to throw her out, but then she talked about her friends within the police. I argued that I have a diplomatic passport and so on, but she would not leave, just yelled. Finally the bellboy came, then the receptionist, she made phone calls and she threatened me to be killed next time I will be going to Help and so on. What should I have done? Please anybody with some experience give me some advise for the future?

I finally gave her 40 Euro and agreed with her to have a good time in Help. I doubt. What do you think? Can I go back there or shold I be careful?

It is not that I am a newbie, but something like this was really new to me.

Some other reports about terma and massagem will follow soon, but please let me know if I can go to Help tomorrow again? !

Schaf

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.I met this hot girl at an internet cafe. We started talking and kept talking for a couple of hours. It was getting kind of late and she said she lived an hour away and the buses had stopped for the night so could she stay with me at my hotel for the night and leave in the morning. I said absolutely. I thought I had found a real gem. We go back to my hotel do the deed a couple times and we go to sleep. The next morning, we wake up, she demands 200 real and won't leave till I pay her. I refuse. She goes out on the deck and begins screaming really loud, screaming all kinds of shit in portuguese that I didn't understand. I didn't want to get kicked out of the hotel and she was waking everybody up. I relented and paid her the money just to get rid of her. Valuable lesson to me, I thought I was getting a normal girl for free but in reality it was a GDP posing as a normal girl. Word to the wise.

European66
04-25-08, 07:33
Dear All,

Just had a very bad experience with a help girl called Sonia. She is about 165, with heels much taller, faked blonde long hair, big tits with a wonderbra, nice ass and good face, in her late 20th I guess.I had similar situation 2 y. before.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=446993
Now I'm sad, I didn't take a photo from her.

Be not afraid, go to Help, make some good pics from Sonia and post in this forum. This is the only way we can warn and help together.

All the best in your holydays,

European66

Exec Talent
04-25-08, 17:57
A few years ago I was staying in an apartment and a little different situation developed. The girl got upset because she thought she was going to be my girlfriend and I told her that was not going to happen. I should have been clued in when I suggested we go to breakfast and she instead wanted to go to the supermarket and buy a week's worth of groceries.

Everything had been going well. She was a very good looking girl with an awesome body and top performer all around. The night that I told her she wasn't going to be a permanent addition she went crazy (actually faked going crazy) and broke a glass candleholder all over the floor. When I suggested she leave, she took off all her clothes and said I had to pay her some outrageous amount of money. I ended up physically removing her from the apartment (which was very difficult for me to do because I have very strong feelings about any violence against women). The police came and actually sided with me.

Sometime later, I did end up seeing her at Help and we had dinner (and desert) the next day. She admitted it was all an act and she was just upset with me for rejecting her. Brazilian women try you over and over again. Anyone who does not think that they (even the non-GDPs) are not master manipulators has not been around.

As a footnote, the apartment I rented was right next door to the manger's apartment. I rented the same apartment some months later and he told the agent that R$300 was owed because of the disturbance. Never underestimate the creative ways Brazilians will try to get money from you.

Exec Talent
04-25-08, 18:16
The girls at L'uomo are really complaining about the lack of business. Management is trying to get guys to go there by offering discounts but the only ones showing up are Brazilian guys who do not session.

Although in the past girls had complained about the bartenders telling them to push expensive drinks (the bartenders get a commission on sales), last night was the first time there I felt genuinely ripped-off. The girl I was with asked me for a cognac which is something I have gotten there before. I was not with her when she went to the bar to get the drink. Brazil has a national brand which is something like R$10-15. When I went to pay the bill at the end of the night, what I was charged for was Remy Martin at R$25. I am certain that she did not ask for it by name. Clearly a case of bartender gouging. I was very disappointed that it has come to that there.

While you always have had to watch for rip-offs, over-charging and gringo prices in Rio, lately with the significant drop-off in American tourists, it seems to have gotten worse.

Katreed
04-26-08, 01:06
I don't have much of a report, just a question. Can anyone give me good advice on folks to contact about longer term rentals (4-5 weeks). I have spoken to a couple usual suspects (John Thompson, Gringo Mgmt, etc) does anyone have others that have good/reasonable prices?

Thanks

Edward M
04-26-08, 02:32
Just wanted to add my 2 centavos about a trip I recently took for a week and a half.

I was staying in Copa and reasoned that unlike past trips where I focused primarily on Centro I would try to stay mostly at L'uomo. My reasoning was that although at first glance Centro appears cheaper, L'uomo is actually quite close in value due to:

1. exchange rate - L'uomo was giving 1.70 while my bank was only giving about 1.63 (I brought a lot of $US just for this purpose)
2. in L you shower before the session saving time
3. Due to the fact the foreplay is tougher in Centro in the boite more time is required. I always get an hour there (R$180 at 4x4) vs 40 minutes at L (R$200). If you count the time that I hang in the boite/relax room I was intimate time with girls well over an hour at L. Plus I like to make them work a little for my affection. It gives me an easier way to ask what they are into (or will allow) rather than just, "Oi, vc faz x, y, z?"
4. overall better attitude of the girls in L
5. free dinner
6. less travel time and expense
7. Although 4x4 has the before 5pm entrada special, if you do 3 sessions at L there also is no entrada and entering before 7pm weekdays (regardless of when the first session is) gives a reduced entrada as well.
8. since the girls days off vary, it is easier to avoid a certain favorite when she is off
9. less asking for tips from staff (although the reception girls at L do have a tendency to round up and short-change)
10. since there are less girls there, there are less "special" ones to hassle you

although this is offset by some advantages I see at 4x4:

1. cheaper overall prices
2. less hassling for drinks
3. more girls
4. easier to pull off-session time since everyone has the weekend off
5. girls are not allowed in the relax room so there is a place to escape during refractory periods
6. less annoying gringos and less loud-mouthed Brazilians

That was my plan. In actuality things did not work out exactly as planned.

First, I did have a great time at L. I was there 8 out of my 11 days. Some of my old favorites had returned and I met some nice new ones. 5 out of the 8 days I did 3 sessions and thus paid no entrada. One of the girls at reception was telling me how depressed she is at the poor dollar exchange and that business is hurting.

Some days were pretty crowded though although a lot of the crowd was Brazilian and had a much lower rate of session taking. There were a lot of pretty girls there with good attitudes. I did not get to everyone that I wanted to and will say that I only had one session that was a little disappointing (just a little).

There was one girl there that I was considering going with because I thought she was attractive and after trying her out by talking with her a few times I did not get a good vibe and went with someone else twice. Funny thing was that after I told her that I had to leave because of a previous engagement and there was no way I could go with her she became very affectionate and gave me a great vibe. I explained to her that although I now wanted to, I could not go with her because I had to leave in 30 minutes. I suggested she go find another client but she refused. She said that did not matter and she could be my girlfriend next time (note to self: snicker). I asked why the change of heart and she replied that she was very shy and now she had a few beers in her.

On the subject of bill rounding, one day the woman tells me my bill is 470. I ask to look at it and it says 465.8. That is a pretty steep round up but I figured for a bill of about $300 I can give $2.50 to the counter girl.

I only made it to 4x4 once in mid-week and some of my previous points were way off. It was strangely empty, both of attractive girls and clients. Even at 9pm I had no problems walking through the boite and getting a seat. Most of my old favorites were gone and there were not that many new ones that were turning me on. Maybe it was just bad timing or a bad attitude on my part. The counter girl Cristina did not ask for a tip this time but the doorman (that I had never seen before) did. He said in English, "Perhaps a small tip?"

There was some positive though. First I went with one old favorite for an hour and I managed to get two shots in for the price of one. Then I went with another old favorite and we somehow managed to get at least 2 hours in the room. This also happened to me on my last trip although the girl that time was a bit upset that we stayed in too long this time the girl did not mind since she was tired and needed to leave too soon to get another client. They must have forgotten about us. Only one shot though since we both fell asleep but it was nice.

One thing that really annoyed me was that now there is a sign in the relax room that the door must be kept shut. Something I liked to do was to sit in one of the chairs on a break and watch the girls go by. It gave me a chance to check out the talent with no pressure and no opportunity to by a girl a drink but now the sign is blocking a good portion of my view and I cannot easily ask their name as they go by and the room is too damn hot and steamy to relax in.

I learned something about 4x4 this trip too. The price differential for 40 minutes to the hour (R$160-180) all goes to the girl (R$110 vs 130). This really surprised me.

I never made it to Help (which is normal for me) but I did meet a few times with an ex-terma girl that I know and had another one that was a no-show.

Well that is just my random rambling contribution. Take from it what you will. I left out specific names since:

1. I do not want to be identified by the girls as a contributor to this forum as it may slow down my picture taking ability (although I do not post them here, I do not want that moniker put on me)
2. It really does not matter. Your mileage will vary and one man's punch is another man's poison. In real life, even with close friends, I have never found mentioning specific girls to anyone to have any value. A negative, yes, but no one from this trip fit that bill.

RexG
04-26-08, 02:48
The girls at L'uomo are really complaining about the lack of business. Management is trying to get guys to go there by offering discounts but the only ones showing up are Brazilian guys who do not session.

Although in the past girls had complained about the bartenders telling them to push expensive drinks (the bartenders get a commission on sales), last night was the first time there I felt genuinely ripped-off. The girl I was with asked me for a cognac which is something I have gotten there before. I was not with her when she went to the bar to get the drink. Brazil has a national brand which is something like R$10-15. When I went to pay the bill at the end of the night, what I was charged for was Remy Martin at R$25. I am certain that she did not ask for it by name. Clearly a case of bartender gouging. I was very disappointed that it has come to that there.

While you always have had to watch for rip-offs, over-charging and gringo prices in Rio, lately with the significant drop-off in American tourists, it seems to have gotten worse.

Hey Exec, over the past year you have written a lot of reports about how bad things have gotten at L'uomo. I enjoyed reading your opinions, and I will probably avoid L'uomo during my next visit in May. But why do you continue to visit this establishment?

Mark_Simon
04-26-08, 03:46
Thats why I think its good to go with a wingman. With 2 peopel its easier to handle this situation.


Dear All,

Just had a very bad experience with a help girl called Sonia. She is about 165, with heels much taller, faked blonde long hair, big tits with a wonderbra, nice ass and good face, in her late 20th I guess.

At Help we had a nice conversation, she passed the full screening process easily, she smiled to offer everything, kissed me more or less passionately and I thought this will be a good night.

In my room everything went out well at the beginning, we had a beer, I went to the shower, then she took one, we kissed and teased and then she started to ask for the money (250 including anal, 200 without) upfront. I said I will pay her in the morning and definitely not before anything happened. She insisted and I was loosing the spirit and told her that I will never ever pay before as I would never ever pay a plumber upfront before he fixed the problem. Then the drama began. I pointed her towards the door and said this is it and I do not want anymore, I offered her 30 Real for the taxi and whatsoever, but she insisted in the total price and would not leave. She started screaming at me, throwing books at me and when I tried to call the reception she freaked out completely. Finally I called the reception and asked for security to throw her out, but then she talked about her friends within the police. I argued that I have a diplomatic passport and so on, but she would not leave, just yelled. Finally the bellboy came, then the receptionist, she made phone calls and she threatened me to be killed next time I will be going to Help and so on. What should I have done? Please anybody with some experience give me some advise for the future?

I finally gave her 40 Euro and agreed with her to have a good time in Help. I doubt. What do you think? Can I go back there or shold I be careful?

It is not that I am a newbie, but something like this was really new to me.

Some other reports about terma and massagem will follow soon, but please let me know if I can go to Help tomorrow again? !

Schaf

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Jimmy Boy 99
04-26-08, 04:14
[QUOTE=Edward M]

"I was there 8 out of my 11 days. Some of my old favorites had returned and I met some nice new ones. 5 out of the 8 days I did 3 sessions and thus paid no entrada."

It sounds like you did about 20 sessions at Luomo. When I was there in March there were only about 15-20 girls in total. Did you session with every single girl there, do a lot of repeats, or did they double or triple the number of girls there since March? I would have had trouble finding 5 girls to session with when I was there.

Edward M
04-26-08, 05:23
[QUOTE=Edward M]

"I was there 8 out of my 11 days. Some of my old favorites had returned and I met some nice new ones. 5 out of the 8 days I did 3 sessions and thus paid no entrada."

It sounds like you did about 20 sessions at Luomo. When I was there in March there were only about 15-20 girls in total. Did you session with every single girl there, do a lot of repeats, or did they double or triple the number of girls there since March? I would have had trouble finding 5 girls to session with when I was there.I did 20 sessions there with 14 different girls. There were at least 10 other girls that I would have liked to have gone with and some of the first 14 that I would have like to gone with more but only so much time, money, and mojo. There were well over 30 girls there. I just made a list of 24 that I knew by name and another 5 that I remember but do not know their names. There were other girls that were just totally not my type that I know were there but have no memory of. Note that they were not all there every day but they were all there at some point during my visits.

One thing about L'uomo is that the more I am there the more girls I find that I am attracted to. There may be a girl that at first glance I do not think much of but then as I keep seeing her and/or go with her friend and join her social circle I find myself attracted to her. Some of these girls have been some of my best Rio experiences. Not a GFE but like a BF of GFE.

Schaf29
04-26-08, 15:15
I took a look at their website not bad for the price. When you say girl friendly, do they charge extra for each girl you bring in the room?

With apartment prices going up it might make sense to stay in a hotel like this for the price.It is indeed not bad and the area is fine too. They did not charge anything for the girl, but (and I think this is good) the girl had to register at the reception, they controlled her passport and filled in a form.

Langer
04-26-08, 18:37
Just to add my voice to those who have pointed out how bad things have gotten at L'uomo. Been there 8 times over the last 3 months. If it is so bad why did i go back, well I kept hoping it would get better. I am a regular and I bring friends, but even I got riped off on drink prices, same story, a case of bartender gouging, the girls are bored due to the lack of custom, and the good girls are moving to Sao Paulo were business is better. Rio has lost it, with high prices and poor service, When I get the chance I go to Sao Paulo too, much better choice and service, which is sad to say as I use to love Rio.

Sunset Strip
04-26-08, 19:40
I don't have much of a report, just a question. Can anyone give me good advice on folks to contact about longer term rentals (4-5 weeks). I have spoken to a couple usual suspects (John Thompson, Gringo Mgmt, etc) does anyone have others that have good/reasonable prices?

Thanks

There is a Rio apartment thread where you can get answers to this question from guys who know. Just scroll down the page to get to it.

TJ

Jan 156
04-26-08, 19:45
Which is a great reason for changing perspectives. If you go to cheap (or even mid-price) termas, you can always extend if you find a good situation. Do top end and, if you're rolled, that can easily spoil your whole night (same for Help). Why not work through a few cheapies without shooting every wad of enthusiasm in your wallet/c*ck, then, when you find a sweetie, treat her like a lady and spend time enjoying some good fortune.

Just because "L'uomo might have lost it" doesn't mean Rio has. You've dodged the dengue, now dodge the toursit/big-spender traps. Enjoy Rio for what it is - one of the most amazing cities in the world, vibrantly colourful, and with more hotties than the world's combined weather forecasts.

Sunset Strip
04-26-08, 19:48
dear fellow mongers,

i understand more and more why so many dodgy guys like myself love rio. you can make outstanding new experiences here.

after my last night disaster i left my hotel (by the way, atlantico copacabana, very girl friendly and the suite i have is huge, two rooms and everything is fine for less than 100us a night, jacuzzi and sauna in the room as well) and was not sure what to do first, so i thought i deserve to see some pink pussy and then i can decide what next.

so i went to the miami peep, got 15 tokens for 15 real and 6 minutes in a private cabin. the cabin has a glass between you and the girl, but at the top there is an opening of about 20cm. well i did not think much about it and thought nothing than watching pussy will and should happen anyway. i decided for one girl after having had a look at the pictures, put in my tokens and pressed the button with her number. a minute later she came in and looked really gourgeous. she started talking to me in porto, i apologised for not understanding a single word and she started dancing and getting rid of her bikini, sat down, rubbed her pussy and ass and then explained me with gestures that i could touch her for 10real more. i thought for half a second and came to the conclusion that touching these nice tits is worth a go, so i stood up and put my fingers through the little spot, she explained me to stand on the little stool. ok, well, i thought that better be good brazilian quality for my 100 kilo body and up i went. she dragged my hand through the spot and put it right into, and i mean into, her pussy. that was all slightly uncomfortable, but damn, as i realized i can also put finger into her ass i did not think about possible bruises under my arms from the window. neither did she worry about her arms i realised when she put her arm out to my side took my cock and started wanking it. she gave me a hand job! while i had one hand around and inside her openings and the other hand on the window trying to not fall down from that damn little wooden stool.

that was all so bizarr and at the same time highly unexpected and by that turning me on that i managed to come within my five minutes all over the glass. poor mob brigade who had to clean up afterwards.

she smiled and i gave her the 10 real which she accepted happily and left through a little whole in the wall behind her.

i stood there, looking down at me if there are any leftovers on my trousers and smiled happily about not seeing any.

then i left and outside in bright light i realised that a damn big drop of my sperm was on my left shoe. well, i tried to discretely rub it off with my right shoe, but i can tell you that is not so easy, this is pretty glewy. anyway, i made it and had another incredible new experince. you can get wanked off for 25 real in a mini private porn cabine by a lovely young lady and the only thing you have to worry about is bruises under your arms and some sperm on your shoes. whereelse in the world does this happen? i don't know.

have fun,

schaf

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miami peep show is one of my hangout spots in rio. i will be there in june and will report on the place.

was a blonde with a veil over her face working there? she is cute. her name is karina, i think.

i used to bang girls who worked there for r$100 all the time.

ney, the tj is real cool, too.

there used to be a black girl who worked in the sex shop part downstairs who i banged, but she is gone. the girls who work downstairs now just consider me a gringo and ignore me.

oh, yeah, the girls will often put a condom on your finger and let you finger their butt holes!
tj

Sunset
04-27-08, 05:51
The 4:00 AM shouting match is a time honored tradition among those hookers who never intend to actually give you a good screw. Many have found that creating a scene pays much better than screwing. And, it wastes far less time. Passing you’re screening is cake for them. Their intension remains the same.

I have met those cunts who proudly state that they are not *****s because they have never screwed a client..

I once bailed on a girl at Erotica who insisted that her “all night programa” had ended before the actual time of day when we were talking.

Anyhow, these parasites are prevalent at the Posto 2 boites like Barberella, Erotica, and Sensoo. They can often be found a Help as well.

So how to avoid their trap?

First, in your screening include a definite hour for payment. I suggest 10:00 AM when the banks open. Otherwise, “all night” may have ended before you even leve Help.

Now, these cunts think they are sooo much smatter than you, and this is backed up with a willingness to engage in violence, smashing anything in sight.
If you become involved with the police you will regret it.

However, these cunts do not have any meaningful connection with any police. Still, any physical confrontation is a dead loss for you.

Despite your best screening, the **** demands payment in advance. Fellow advanced mongers will agree that this is the time to concentrate on getting rid of the ****. Pay or not pay, no good screw will happen. (Many of us have payed to later prove this point.)

Your first proposition is that you will be happy to pay in advance when you meet her tomorrow at Help. (Good luck)

Your second proposition is that you will go with her to the ATM even but you would prefer to go in the morning at 10:00 when there is security.

Of course, If she calls this bluff, when you get to the ATM you will complain that your card is rejected.

In any case, always give her money. I thought 40 euros was a bargain.

Don’t let your emotions get the best of you. Contrary to other posts, I can attest that mongers have died. I myself was stabbed in the hand. You must always pay.

Danny MD
04-27-08, 09:21
"Just had a very bad experience with a help girl called Sonia. She is about 165, with heels much taller, faked blonde long hair, big tits with a wonderbra, nice ass and good face, in her late 20th I guess"

This sounds like the same girl I had a run in with about 6 months ago in Rio. I know her name started with an ‘S’, but I can’t remember if it was ‘Sonia’ but the M.O. is the same. My girl was 5’3 or 5’4, fake blonde, medium tits, nice body, and very pretty. She was telling me her mom was sick and she needed money to help her.

I had been in Help for maybe 4 or 5 hours and was about half lit up. I usually spend at least a few hours there before making my selection. I like my booze and just talking to the garotas before choosing one. My Portuguese is pretty good, so that helps me get a good feel for how the night will go. When I met this girl (maybe Sonia) she was a real looker and I wanted to bed her so we agreed on a price and went to my apartment. We both took showers and got into bed. I’m always looking for the GFE and that’s what we had agreed on, but then she starts saying she doesn’t really like to kiss until she gets to know me better. I reminded her of what she does for a living and told her there won’t be a next time unless she delivers what I want.

After only a few minutes of this, I realize I made a bad decision and decided to cut cord and get rid of her. By this time, Mr. Happy was no longer happy. I tell her this is not going to work now and told her I will give her R$100 for her time. But she balks and tells me she wants the full whack (R$300). Within a few minutes, she is going nuts on me. I was in a really nice apartment building (my apartment was $5,000 USD a month) and didn’t want to get kicked out over this, but I don’t do extortion so I am not going to pay full whack no matter what happens. I call the Porter up (he knows why I’m in Rio) and he gets her calmed down a bit but she is still threatening to call the Police. I tell her to call and offer her my phone to do so. She also tells me she is going to call the favela boys and I gain offer her my phone. After about 20 minutes of this, she finally accepts the R$100 and leaves.

I thank the Porter and he escorts her out of the building. I think this is over and crawl into bed. 30 minutes later the phone rings in the apartment. This is about 3:00 AM now and I’m thinking who the fuck is calling me at this hour? It’s the Porter and he tells me I have some company outside. It’s about 10 favela boys and they want the rest of the R$300. The Porter told me they flashed some guns and he says pay them; they’re serious. I immediately tell him to call the Police, but he tells me if the Police come that I am the person going to jail and he advises me to pay them. Although I know the Porte a little I still don’t trust him 100% so I wander outside to see if anyone is there and packing heat. Sure enough, there are about 10 rough looking fucks outside. I don’t see any guns, but know they’re probably there. They immediately threaten me and tell me to pay up. I resist and explain my side of what happened. I notice the Porter is standing about 15 feet behind me and nervous as shit. But I don’t want to pay for something I have not received and I am pissed. I think the fact I was getting in the favela boys faces startled them. After a few minutes of this I begin to see lights coming on in my building so I know I’m causing a scene I don’t want and it is still heated with the favela boys. I offer them R$100 and tell them that’s it; I’m not paying any more. They finally agree and it’s over. They tell me not to go back to Help.

I spend the next 3 weeks in Rio and went to Help about 3 or 4 times a week. I never saw this girl again, but if I did I was going to tell anyone who was with them what happened to me. I don’t give a fuck about the R$200; it’s the principal of the thing.

HoleRanger
04-27-08, 09:41
The cycle of talent and rip off artists are ongoing. I have visited Rio a few times and just love the diversity in women. Just a thought but while we visit the typical p/u spots don't forget everyday locations (grocery stores, retail stores etc). I added this to my plan of attack a few visits ago and the payoff can be much better at a fraction of the cost. A little bit of effort in learning the language also goes a long way in putting any women you meet at ease. I just walk right up to the woman and after Hello, and an icebreaker just ask them out. I skip all the bs and the results are amazing. T. He attitudes in Brazil are much different than the Western ways.

Just a thought. Enjoy!

Exec Talent
04-27-08, 12:13
Hey Exec, over the past year you have written a lot of reports about how bad things have gotten at L'uomo. I enjoyed reading your opinions, and I will probably avoid L'uomo during my next visit in May. But why do you continue to visit this establishment?

I have business and personal interests in Brazil. I do not come just for the girls. The reason I visit L'uomo is because I have some favorite girls there. The reason I am down on the place is that I feel an obligation to set the record straight for those who may have read my past posts when I said it was one of the best run businesses in Rio. That is a far cry from the case these days.

Since I am in Rio anyways, going to L'uomo is no big deal. For guys who come here for the girls, I seriously question why someone would travel 10 hours, pay $1000+ for airfare, pay for a hotel or apartment to have sex for 40 minutes with a 6-7. I have seen a lot of guys lately come, look around, stay 1/2 hour then leave. I am not a 4x4 fan, but I hear that is the place to go for the best girls these days. Also, many of the best former L'uomo girls are at Solarium and MC.

Exec Talent
04-27-08, 12:23
1. exchange rate - L'uomo was giving 1.70 while my bank was only giving about 1.63 (I brought a lot of $US just for this purpose)


I got 1.72 at the Cambio without even asking. Probably could have gotten higher, but seemed fair given the official rate.

Wild Cherokee
04-27-08, 14:12
I got 1.72 at the Cambio without even asking.

Exec Talent,

While I always invest a little time shopping around for a good exchange rate (as it does pay for itself), a finger in the right direction certainly helps. Can you state where this Cambio is located at?

I won't be in Rio for another 3 weeks but I would like to "shop" the rate at this Cambio when I arrive. Thanks.

WC

Lancer520
04-27-08, 14:37
Exec Talent,

While I always invest a little time shopping around for a good exchange rate (as it does pay for itself), a finger in the right direction certainly helps. Can you state where this Cambio is located at?

I won't be in Rio for another 3 weeks but I would like to "shop" the rate at this Cambio when I arrive. Thanks.

WC
WC. I always use Ben Brothers Jewlers to exchange money. He always gives the best exchange rate. He does ask for $100 bills. On my last trip, wnen the exchange rate was 1.68, he gave us 1.80. It is located on Rua Xavier de Silvera a block and a half off Avenida Atlantica on the right hand side. Edvard is always there and he is glad to do buisness with you. Hope this helps.

Wild Cherokee
04-27-08, 15:14
In light of the aforementioned bad experiences of others, I’d like to humbly offer my two cents worth…

Fortunately, I have never had a bad experience in Rio (or elsewhere for that matter). I'm not sure if it is the fact that:

a) I am very discerning and spend a considerable amount of time screening girls before offering to take them to my apartment
b) They appreciate the fact that I spend time at the apartment engaging in non-sexual foreplay. Falling into this category is music, dancing, sharing stories, drinks, laughing, taking “clothed” pictures, feeding chocolates, etc.
c) I attempt to make the girls feel like, well, girls
d) I have had an absurdly ridiculous streak of good luck
e) All of the above

The undeniable fact is that these girls have “human characteristics” under their hardened exteriors which are camouflaged by their game/skills. Whether its the tears, the offers to cook or the freebies that make us feel like we’ve accomplished something “special”, they all (well at least most) put in their effort to provide a GFE memory beyond an outstanding sexual experience that not only ensures future business for them but allows the monger/GDP relationship to flourish and the willing to conveniently latch onto each other, whenever appropriate. Reciprocity is a good thing in these situations and I believe that demonstrating a little courtship goes a LONG way with these girls. I’ve seen the looks in their eyes as their calculating minds in turn are forced to decipher my actions.

a) Does he really like me?
b) Damn, this gringo is good!
c) Cha-ching!

To put it another way, game recognizes game. They will respect you more, limit the shenanigans and give you an even more incredible GFE if you invest a little time. Yes, some mastery of Porto helps (I’m still working on this) but the most sincere bartering tool is courtship. Just like mongers recognize a good GDP (looks, service and price), GDPs recognize a good john (the overall experience)!

Happy Hunting!

WC

Bravo
04-27-08, 15:21
The 4:00 AM shouting match is a time honored tradition among those hookers who never intend to actually give you a good screw. Many have found that creating a scene pays much better than screwing. And, it wastes far less time. Passing you’re screening is cake for them. Their intension remains the same.

I have met those cunts who proudly state that they are not *****s because they have never screwed a client..

I once bailed on a girl at Erotica who insisted that her “all night programa” had ended before the actual time of day when we were talking.

Anyhow, these parasites are prevalent at the Posto 2 boites like Barberella, Erotica, and Sensoo. They can often be found a Help as well.

So how to avoid their trap?

First, in your screening include a definite hour for payment. I suggest 10:00 AM when the banks open. Otherwise, “all night” may have ended before you even leve Help.

Now, these cunts think they are sooo much smatter than you, and this is backed up with a willingness to engage in violence, smashing anything in sight.
If you become involved with the police you will regret it.

However, these cunts do not have any meaningful connection with any police. Still, any physical confrontation is a dead loss for you.

Despite your best screening, the **** demands payment in advance. Fellow advanced mongers will agree that this is the time to concentrate on getting rid of the ****. Pay or not pay, no good screw will happen. (Many of us have payed to later prove this point.)

Your first proposition is that you will be happy to pay in advance when you meet her tomorrow at Help. (Good luck)

Your second proposition is that you will go with her to the ATM even but you would prefer to go in the morning at 10:00 when there is security.

Of course, If she calls this bluff, when you get to the ATM you will complain that your card is rejected.

In any case, always give her money. I thought 40 euros was a bargain.

Don’t let your emotions get the best of you. Contrary to other posts, I can attest that mongers have died. I myself was stabbed in the hand. You must always pay.


Maybe you could give some details on this. I would like to know exactly how these mongers died. Did the girls pull out a gun and shoot them? Did they call in a gang of favela hoods to beat them to death? Did the cops take them to a remote area and put a bullet in the back of their heads?

I find this facinating because i have had friends who lived in Rio for decades and the only case I can think of was some older guy who had a young GDP girlfriend. Supposedly, she called her brasilian boyfriend over to torture the guy and they threw him out the window because he would not divulge the location of 30K he had brought to Brasil. That situation was alot different that a guy who goes to Help and then has an arguement with a girl when she wants to be paid for doing nothing.

I look forward to hearing about your info.

Ryjerrob
04-27-08, 16:36
To put it another way, game recognizes game. They will respect you more, limit the shenanigans and give you an even more incredible GFE if you invest a little time. Yes, some mastery of Porto helps (I’m still working on this) but the most sincere bartering tool is courtship. Just like mongers recognize a good GDP (looks, service and price), GDPs recognize a good john (the overall experience)!

Happy Hunting!

WC

I feel what you're saying. I don't think that deep about it though. I realize that you have to be extremely cautious about these women. Usually the only reason for all the drama in most cases is that you've been marked. You're money to them, and they are offended that you'd prefer to spend your hard earned money a different way, or on a different girl. I had a girl try to tell me she didn't want me wondering around Rio alone, probably for fear of meeting another girl, and me giving the money she wanted to someone else.

Hell, I had a girl once offer to do it all, and stay for 10 days. All she wanted was $400USD. Thinking back, that might have been a sweet deal if I'd laid out some ground rules. She was a 7, but I wouldn't kick her out of bed for eating crackers.

We just all need to be responsible and safe about the whole damn scene.

ryjer

Wild Cherokee
04-27-08, 16:38
The best solution and the most important is to get her out of your room/apartment... Carry her on your back if you have to.

Yes, one of my friends did exactly this during his first (and only) trip to Rio. The GDP he brought to his apartment claimed that she, while in the bathroom, received an urgent phone call about her daughter and that she needed to go home immediately. Yet, she still wanted to be paid in FULL for the night and “promised” to make it up to him the following night (yeah, right!). Mind you, no services had yet been rendered. When he refused to pay her, she proceeded to make a scene (textbook screaming and glass breaking). As soon as it became apparent that diplomacy was failing to work, he nonchalantly snatched her up, tossed her over his shoulder (kicking and screaming), dumped her in the elevator on her ass and tossed in 40 reais (taxi fare + more) as the elevator door was closing. He could hear her screaming fade away as the elevator descended.

My other friend, who was sharing the apartment with him, sat motionless in shock with his GDP as they watched this short lived fracas unfold. While I did not have the benefit of witnessing this event first hand, as I was staying in another apartment (thankfully), I have to admit that it sounded rather hilarious (especially taking into consideration the inherent haphazard-spur of the moment nature of my friend).

The next night at Help, as one might guess, we ran into her. She, of course, approached my friend with the usual favela hood/police/death threats. I, not knowing her by name but by face, took her to the side (actually the outdoor balcony), spent some “quality” time talking with her, brought her a drink, and essentially diffused the situation. I believe that all she wanted was some attention and to “feel” important**. In effect to regain some dignity (read save face) after her failed novella inspired melodrama. My 30 minutes was enough to accomplish this and make amends. No more threats or conversation about my friend after that.

In retrospect, I’m not quite sure how things would have panned had he not swiftly removed her, but for the sake of property damage and/or neighbor disturbance I think his decision was the right one.

WC

**Little did she know that the real favela-hoods (and dear friends of one of my wingmen, thus mine), Flavia and Denise, were going to knock the sh*t out of her if she did try to cause any problems for us. Of course, the ring side seats would have been outside of Help (probably a few blocks down).

Senb91
04-27-08, 17:23
Is GIG or SDU closer to Copacabana? (in terms of $ for taxi)

El Greco
04-27-08, 23:10
Is GIG or SDU closer to Copacabana? (in terms of $ for taxi)

Domestic airport SDU is closer.

Genghis Khan
04-28-08, 11:04
I am a regular and I bring friends, but even I got riped off on drink prices, same story, a case of bartender gouging, the girls are bored due to the lack of custom, and the good girls are moving to Sao Paulo were business is better. Rio has lost it, with high prices and poor service, When I get the chance I go to Sao Paulo too, much better choice and service, which is sad to say as I use to love Rio.

I have been a regular SP traveller for a number of years and actually considered changing hunting ground to Rio because SP is loosing it to.

BTW, if anyone knows the high end market in Rio, please PM me. I am familiar with the high end market of models and actresses in Sao Paulo and would pay the same for their Rio sisters.

GK

Romulus88
04-28-08, 16:32
My friends and I went to Centaurus on a Wednesday night and it was very slow for the number of men in the club. We were 2 of the 5 guys in there and all the girls were hounding us for drinks all night long. It apparently was a local holiday which they said was the reason there weren't many guys there but I think it is because of other reasons.

The entrance fee is $400 which does NOT include drinks. What it does do is pay the entrance fee and also a girl for 45 minutes.

Once in the bar, you will see tons of beautiful girls all dressed nicely and ready to fuck you. Many will try to now get a second girl with the first one as a package deal making an "upsell" for the price to more than double (2 girls = a new room and more time).

The girls who were asking for us to buy them drinks was getting way out of hand by the end of the night and we just had to leave.

I wish I bring a few cases of Vodka and Red Bull to hand out at these clubs since that is the ONLY thing these girls drink.

I own a small company and I learned that everything comes down to price. No matter how good the product is, if it is too expensive nobody is going to buy it. If I were running Centaurus the first thing I would do is lower the fee. Second, I would have some kind of "Early bird special" like they have at 4x4 if you arrive before 3 or something. They should also enforce the no drink rule to these girls because it just got way too crazy.

The reason the girls are so desperate is because the rate is so high and that means fewer and fewer guys, meaning they don't make their sale for the night they have to resort on drink commissions.

There is also something else that really annoyed me about this place. EVERYONE in the entire place was asking for a tip, from the bartenders (who actually had the nerve to write a piece of paper different choices for an amount of a tip starting at $20 reals going all the way up to $50 reals), to the guy who works the bathroom, to the lady who works downstairs and works in the locker room. The girls hounding me for drinks, the girls asking us to buy their cigarettes. It just got way out of hand.

I don't think they'll stay in business much longer at this rate. I think someone will step in and revamp their business model or it will just die a slow death.

I will give them credit for running a high class establishment with very nice rooms, nice clean bathrooms, nice clean well dressed women.

I have had great sex almost every time I've gone there. If it weren't for the girls asking for drinks every 10 minutes and getting pressured by girls the second I walk through the doors, I would probably go there every night. I wish they would talk to the girls about this.

Spinnerman
04-28-08, 20:15
I have been a regular SP traveller for a number of years and actually considered changing hunting ground to Rio because SP is loosing it to.

BTW, if anyone knows the high end mark in Rio, please PM me. I am familiar with the high end market of models and actresses in Sao Paulo and would pay the same for their Rio sisters.

GKThe high end mark in Rio ? Why it's an exclusive little area called Villa Mimosa.

Sperto
04-30-08, 07:32
The high end mark in Rio ? Why it's an exclusive little area called Villa Mimosa.
You mustn't forget there is up-scale terma on Rua Buenos Aires 85. When entering this palace they greet you at the door. 5 stories reached by the most charming old spiral stairs. At each floor a half dozen of astonishing beautiful and well dresses ladies will approach you (most of them are propably ex-Centaurus and ex-Café Foto girls). The atmosphere is like a mixture of a fashion show and an old British Club. When you have made your choice you can continue with your lady to one of the luxury suites. :)

Thanos
04-30-08, 19:53
In light of the aforementioned bad experiences of others, I’d like to humbly offer my two cents worth…

Fortunately, I have never had a bad experience in Rio (or elsewhere for that matter). I'm not sure if it is the fact that:

a) I am very discerning and spend a considerable amount of time screening girls before offering to take them to my apartment
b) They appreciate the fact that I spend time at the apartment engaging in non-sexual foreplay. Falling into this category is music, dancing, sharing stories, drinks, laughing, taking “clothed” pictures, feeding chocolates, etc.
c) I attempt to make the girls feel like, well, girls
d) I have had an absurdly ridiculous streak of good luck
e) All of the above

The undeniable fact is that these girls have “human characteristics” under their hardened exteriors which are camouflaged by their game/skills. Whether its the tears, the offers to cook or the freebies that make us feel like we’ve accomplished something “special”, they all (well at least most) put in their effort to provide a GFE memory beyond an outstanding sexual experience that not only ensures future business for them but allows the monger/GDP relationship to flourish and the willing to conveniently latch onto each other, whenever appropriate. Reciprocity is a good thing in these situations and I believe that demonstrating a little courtship goes a LONG way with these girls. I’ve seen the looks in their eyes as their calculating minds in turn are forced to decipher my actions.

a) Does he really like me?
b) Damn, this gringo is good!
c) Cha-ching!

To put it another way, game recognizes game. They will respect you more, limit the shenanigans and give you an even more incredible GFE if you invest a little time. Yes, some mastery of Porto helps (I’m still working on this) but the most sincere bartering tool is courtship. Just like mongers recognize a good GDP (looks, service and price), GDPs recognize a good john (the overall experience)!

Happy Hunting!

WCI'm glad you haven't had any problems but over a long time I've come to realize that the best way to treat the GDPs is like a GDP. The only guys these girls REALLY respect are the brazilian boyfriends and husbands who treat them like dirt. I'm not saying go that far but think about it. The guys who run into these huge problematic scenerios are the guys going for the GFE. Just this past week alone I've run into at least four guys who had to pay out big money thinking they had a girlfriend deal working when in reality the girls were just working them. One guy had a girl stay with him for two days. No charge. Third day she breaks out her list of bills she wants him to help her with so she can stop working. He refuses. She demands and gets 600R. Another guy has a girl stay with him for days. She's using his computer. Washing her clothes in his apt. Eating his food. Not asking for money. The guy even extended his trip thinking he didn't have to pay her. His roomate hears from a beachchair guy that he's paying 400R a day. He says he isn't paying anything and approaches the girl. Sure enough she was running a tab. 400R a day and 300R a night! Guy ended up paying 1500R. Another guy goes to Help with his buddy and his buddies girl. He's alone so his buddie's girl calls up one of her girlfriends to join them. Attractive girl arrives. SHE PAYS the entrance for him and her! SHE buys a bottle of champagne in the club. Sounds like a winner. That night the sex is good. Next morning she wants 500R! It just seems that whenever I hear one of these horror stories it usually involves a GFE couple that has hit the wall. I've found that what works best for me is the old addage: "You don't pay them to stay. You pay them so you can tell them when to get out".

Sperto
04-30-08, 22:21
The only guys these girls REALLY respect are the brazilian boyfriends and husbands who treat them like dirt...
Not that I agree or think it's a good method, but a brazilian guy explained that the right way to treat brazilian women is not to treat them like dogs, but to SHOW that you CAN treat them like dogs, if they don't "behave".

I'm quite sure that many GPs have zero respect for their gringo clients. What else is expected the way that many gringos behave? Respect isn't something you get. It's something you deserve.

If a nasty Help-girl meets a gringo in Help and see that he's a big sucker she will take all her chances to milk the cow dry. That's her way of making her living.

Edward M
05-01-08, 00:40
Although "garota" must be in quotes:

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/24360170/

Sperto
05-01-08, 07:26
Ronaldo and three travestis. That's difficult to explain.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=WG9_dx6JQNo
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aV99Ap0ULsE&feature=related

Senb91
05-01-08, 18:29
I'm landing in Rio tomorrow (Friday) at 4:30. What will be the best terma to go to at around 6:00 or 7:00 on Friday night? I'm staying in Copacabana.

Thanks

Also, how is Franks or Barbarella's? Are they worth going to after the Termas?

The Watcher
05-01-08, 22:14
Fantastic, informative, marvelous and excellent update. Thanks!

Jake993
05-02-08, 12:22
I'm landing in Rio tomorrow (Friday) at 4:30. What will be the best terma to go to at around 6:00 or 7:00 on Friday night? I'm staying in Copacabana.

Thanks

Also, how is Franks or Barbarella's? Are they worth going to after the Termas?

I think you nailed it.
Go to Frank's or Barb's AFTER the Termas. You will be in a much better frame of mind. You can go and have fun and enjoy the show and have fun with the girls without the "need" to get laid right away. There are some very nice girls who work Barbarella's but I think you need to be patient to get any kind of deal. If you can show up "pre-conditioned" then I think you are in much better shape to avoid a mistake because these girls can be EXPENSIVE if you are not careful. I have been to Barb's about 6 times and brought girls home twice. Once was an incredible experience with a girl who stayed all night and rocked my world, and once was almost a waste of time and money. And I'm certain the waste of T & M was due to me being a little too drunk and a little too desperate.

IMHO - if you are in Copa at 6:00 PM on a Friday..... then stay in Copa. Going to Centro is a waste of time. 4 x 4 is crammed with locals and the traffic is crap. L'Huomo has been hurting lately for business (or so goes the rumor) so it might be worth stopping by on a Friday evening.

Good luck - I'm be in Rio the middle of next week after two "swinging" nights in Belo Horizonte.

Exec Talent
05-02-08, 12:54
Stopped by Help last night and there is no doubt where the hot women in Copacabana have been hiding (certainly not at the termases). In the course of about an hour I saw at least twenty 8-9s and a few 10s. I was not partaking last night, but chastised a group of Italians for not immediately grabbing up a girl who was one of the best looking I have seen at Help in years. She could not walk five feet without someone stopping her (including me).

Given a lot of factors, the caliber of girls at the termases lately, the exchange rate, duration of sessions at the termas the greatest value proposition might be to take home a Help girl. Also, while I did see some of the old crowd, most of the girls were new.

Bravo
05-02-08, 14:27
Might be a case where the hot girls are going to Help, to get thier airplanes ticket money for their migration to Europe. Slow season just started, so now the girls will be leaving Rio for greener/warmer pastures.

Jake993
05-02-08, 16:13
Stopped by Help last night and there is no doubt where the hot women in Copacabana have been hiding (certainly not at the termases). In the course of about an hour I saw at least twenty 8-9s and a few 10s. I was not partaking last night, but chastised a group of Italians for not immediately grabbing up a girl who was one of the best looking I have seen at Help in years. She could not walk five feet without someone stopping her (including me).

Given a lot of factors, the caliber of girls at the termases lately, the exchange rate, duration of sessions at the termas the greatest value proposition might be to take home a Help girl. Also, while I did see some of the old crowd, most of the girls were new.

Remember, that this is a sort of long weekend with the May 1 holiday and all. There are a lot of girls in from the small towns for the weekend to make some money - and that's a GOOD THING!!!!

As in Russia, I believe the three most important factors (aside from being good looking) to a great HELP hookup are;

1. Girl from outside the city
2. Divorced
3. Single Mom

IMHO this is the "trifecta" and if achieved at a reasonable price will yield the best sex with the best attitude and almost always guarantees an "all nighter".
The local girls are a pain in the ass, want too much money, and often want to bolt after a few hours. The out-of-town girls are on a mission and may not have had sex in a few weeks..... sometimes months. And if they have a few screaming kids at home - watch out! It's animal sex time!!!!!

Ryjerrob
05-02-08, 19:15
As in Russia, I believe the three most important factors (aside from being good looking) to a great HELP hookup are;

1. Girl from outside the city
2. Divorced
3. Single Mom

IMHO this is the "trifecta" and if achieved at a reasonable price will yield the best sex with the best attitude and almost always guarantees an "all nighter".
The local girls are a pain in the ass, want too much money, and often want to bolt after a few hours. The out-of-town girls are on a mission and may not have had sex in a few weeks..... sometimes months. And if they have a few screaming kids at home - watch out! It's animal sex time!!!!!

I have to agree with you. Single, divorced moms are wonderful. I get so tired of all the drama from from the hard core tricks...........

Brazilman
05-03-08, 09:20
Great post Romulus about Centaurus. I quit going, back when it was about 300 reals. Now you say its 400 reals. WOW! I can't believe people still go. Its amazing how some business do the complete opposite of what customers want. If they charged the same as the other termas, I might even go back to check it out again. I'm sure I would eventually boycott it again, after dealing with the awful mgmt there. Until then, Its been about 2 years since I've been, and I don't miss it.

Brazilman
05-03-08, 09:32
I just saw pictures of ronaldo's hookers. What was he thinking. They were skanks.I would think he can get better than that. Isnt he the Elvis of brazil. Does he go to termas, or does he want to keep it on the down low. Looks like another Elizabeth Hurley moment.

Ejam06
05-04-08, 18:09
Fantastic, informative, marvelous and excellent update. Thanks!Sperto,

What happen to your list of cheap casa in Centro.

Poucolouco
05-05-08, 05:07
[QUOTE=Chingon]Ronaldo's misadventure cost him almost $R8 million, or $4.5 million USD: TIM, the Brazilian mobile phone company, terminated it's endorsement contract with him.

"The contract contained a clause allowing its unilateral cancellation by the telecom company if for some reasons the athlete might project a negative corporate image.."

There's also talk that Nike may also terminate it's endorsement deal with him for the same reason. That one's worth $100 million USD!!!

He also lost his girlfriend, Maria Beatriz "Bia" Anthony, a 23 year old engineering student. (I thought these guys only dated super models.)

So far only his team, AC Milan is sticking by him.

"Brazilian media reported Wednesday that the Milan forward left Rio de Janeiro Tuesday and went to a house in the exclusive resort of Angra dos Reis where he was said to be staying in the sole company of his mother, Sonia Nazario."
(What a fucking baby!)

BTW, what's up with that haircut?! All that money, and he can't find a decent barber or stylist. LOL

He grew his hair out after he was injured and appeared in commercials endorsing Crescina, a Swiss product that stimulates hair growth. Perhaps the Crescina folks didn't include a sartorial clause in their contract.

Benjoe
05-05-08, 15:30
Ronaldo got tired of this (see video), a tv celebrity. Come to think of it, I'd get tired of her yakking, as well. She's the mc of a MTV show in Brazil called Beija Sapo. You can YouTube the show. The video below was banned in Brazil and got YouTube banned for awhile too. This link may take a few seconds to load.

http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/7751/54/

El Austriaco
05-05-08, 23:19
IThat one moment of madness could well be a financial suicide for him. What a retard to miss with ugly trans!.
Well, if after a truly outstanding career that saw him as the poster boy of Nike since the late nineties, Ronaldinho still hasn't made enough money, and enough of it left, to never ever have to lift a finger again, then he truly has more serious problems than getting caught with a few TVs in a seedy Rio motel.

What's really amazing to me is that guys like him, who have made a killing selling their "image" more than anything, would even take the risk of a PR nightmare like that ever EVER materializing. I mean, wouldn't Ronaldinho or his managers have enough contacts in the highest of highest social circles to have access to the most clandestine, tight-lipped, absolutely discrete (and of course, accordingly high-priced) "escorts" that are out there? Sort of like Hollywood movie stars? And even more amazing, why would they allow someone to film part of it? But then again, Max Mosley wasn't exactly all that smart, either. At least Hugh Grant wasn't filmed. Geez, guys... maybe they all should be reading ISG :)

Have any of you been to the clubs that football players have in Rio? Such as Romario's club and all?
Back in 2004, a girl in MP invited me to go to the opening of one of Romario's clubs in Barra (don't remember the name anymore), and we ended up going with something like 15 of her friends (all GDPs). Some of them ended up doing stripteases on the stage, but unfortunately, Romario was nowhere to be seen. The place wasn't bad, but nothing out of the ordinary, either. Still, a lot of fun with all the chicks.

EA

Redcloud
05-05-08, 23:32
You have the 2 players mixed up. Ronaldo-Ronaldinho

Benjoe
05-06-08, 00:40
People can say anything, but not everything gets said. A gdp told me Ronaldinho Gaucho was at W in Sao Paulo 3-4 years ago. Another told me she saw Jo Soares at Termas 65 in Rio -- though most people think Jo Soares is gay. People have mentioned various American sports pros being at Help.

El Austriaco
05-06-08, 02:46
I read that he is 31 years old, so that would mean in 1989 he was 12 years old. He was the poster boy for Nike at age 11 and 12? Wow.
I meant late 90s, of course (like 1998). Sorry for the mistake. I'll correct the error.

BTW, Ronaldo was on the 1994 Brazilian team that won the WC in the US, though he didn't play... after all, he was still 17 at the time. He started this professional career at age 16 with Cruzeiro, and stardom didn't wait for a long time (FIFA World Player 1996 and 1997).

EA

Flexinbk
05-06-08, 05:38
For those interested and can read portuguese

http://veja.abril.com.br/070508/p_132.shtml

Benjoe
05-06-08, 12:25
I meant late 90s, of course (like 1998). Sorry for the mistake. I'll correct the error.

BTW, Ronaldo was on the 1994 Brazilian team that won the WC in the US, though he didn't play... after all, he was still 17 at the time. He started this professional career at age 16 with Cruzeiro, and stardom didn't wait for a long time (FIFA World Player 1996 and 1997).

EA
Brazil has a tradition of putting a teenage player of tremendous promise on its World Cup teams. They may not play, but the Brazilians want them to soak in the experience for future reference. Pele was the first, but he ended up playing and helped them win it all in 1950. Ronaldo in 1994 and Kaka in 2002 are two more examples, but they didn't play. There are probably other examples, but they are beyond my limited knowledge and memory.

Roy Mac
05-06-08, 12:51
Hey Sperto,

What happen to your new map and Casas up date?

El Austriaco
05-06-08, 14:56
You have the 2 players mixed up. Ronaldo-Ronaldinho
No.

Ronaldo (Ronaldo Luis Nazário de Lima; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronaldo), i.e. the one caught with the TVs, is commonly referred to as "Ronaldo Fenômeno" or "Ronaldinho" in Brazil or simply "O Fenômeno".

The player called "Ronaldinho" in Europe and most other places worldwide(Ronaldo de Assís Moreira; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronaldinho) is called "Ronaldinho Gaúcho" in Brazil, specifically due to the fact that by the time he made it big in Brazil, there was already a "Ronaldinho" there (see above). "Gaúcho" refers to the fact that he is from Porto Alegre.

Hope this clears matters up.


Pele was the first, but he ended up playing and helped them win it all in 1950.
In 1958, you meant to say.


Ronaldo in 1994 and Kaka in 2002 are two more examples, but they didn't play.
Ronaldo didn't play at all in 1994, but Kaká did play a bit in 2002 (against Costa Rica, if I remember correctly).

EA

American Warrior
05-06-08, 16:33
I'm so pleased to see this board is once again devoted to wholesome subjects like footballers. I was a bit worried when I saw recent posts by 'Sperto' which suggested women all over Rio will have sex in exchange for money. Perhaps this disgusting practice should be consigned to a separate thread so potential visitors to Rio can avoid it as they spend valuable hours researching what to do . . . ;-)

I did think this was about women, excuse me gdp's. Women are in another thread.

El Austriaco
05-06-08, 18:31
To bring the board back on track, here's what we can learn from all of this:

1) Make sure to read up on ISG on which escort agencies to call (like Ronaldo did) to avoid bait-and-switches. As we have seen, the pull the switches on virtually anyone... no exceptions.

2) Do not call yourself under any circumstances unless speaking through a Darth Vader device. Have one of your underlings arrange it for you.

3) If you are an international megastar, consider taking any escorts to your home to have full control over your privacy and personal security. Maybe not a good idea to take them to a motel (like Papillon in Barra, like in this case) where people might be all over you asking for your autograph at check-in.

4) If you are rich and famous and just can't afford any scandal like this, have your body guards/security personnel perform a Crocodile Dundee on them first to prevent a rerun of the "Crying Game".

5) After the initial patdown to conclusively determine the actual sex of your prospective P4P provider, have them pat them down one more time and remove any cameras. You want some pictures, bring your own cameras, bolt them to the bedpost, and secure them with explosive devices only you can defuse. Very important!!!

6) If you are still worried about getting recognized, wear a face mask. Especially if you have a haircut like Ronaldo.

7) Don't ask them to buy drugs for you. Ever. Call your trusted family dealer.

8) Don't ever mention your real name. If your knees start to hurt from all the doggy-style humping, don't mention that they should be careful because, after all, you are a former Brazilian NT player on vacation back home who just had surgery on one knee while the other has been operated on several times in the past.

9) Don't brag about how rich you are. Just resist the temptation.

10) If the shit still hits the fan and you get extorted, just pay up and chalk it up to a bad experience. Should only be peanuts to you, and certainly still will be cheaper than the possible outfall from a scandal.

EA :)

Sprite13
05-07-08, 02:54
www.riorelax.com.br the tranny that got ronaldo in trouble is on there LOL!!!AHAHAH! Anyone tempted to give her a try? LOL

I'm sure after all this free publicity she's been receiving, her prices may have sky-rocketed!:D

BJfans
05-10-08, 03:40
Any news about help closing and current situation there?

Exec Talent
05-10-08, 09:52
Any news about help closing and current situation there?

Check with the guy in the restroom. He seems to know more than most people, including all the pundits here who had it closed months ago.

Pana Nyc
05-10-08, 15:35
I stopped by this place the other day and it has been year since I was last there before the crazy price increase of 400R, 120R to get in and 280R for session not even including drinks which is to pricey and believe me I can afford it but I can get 2 for the price of 1 at quatro. In my book 4x4 is still the #1 Terma in my heart of Rio I have been to all of them for the budget to the most expensive and the best bang for you buck you are going to get at quatro and you find anything your heart desires. On Centaurus the garotas a very beautiful but the negatives are the customer service the garotas are to pushy trying to get you in the 1 hour room when you just met....lol I had a drink at my table and I asked my buddy to watch it for me ans than by the time I returned it was gone which pissed me off bigtime. I watched the way the waiters clearing up the tables real quick and some of the drinks where not even finished, I asked for a bottle of water and they give me a little coffe cup of water and Im thinking what the fuck, the last straw for me when the garota I was talking to was being to pushy trying to get me to cabine and than I said thats it Im out of here. I WILL NEVER EVER GO BACK TO CENTAURUS AGAIN !!!!!! They are lucky they are not a business in the USA because they would of went out of buiness a long time ago.

Off Road
05-10-08, 17:42
Any news about help closing and current situation there?
Open, business as usual, nobody is talking about this any more. except here on the forums when someone asks.

Ohp1972
05-10-08, 18:48
Open, business as usual, nobody is talking about this any more. except here on the forums when someone asks.Good! That is Enough said!

Full Throttle
05-11-08, 07:07
Had one night on April 30th. As one in our party was a legitimate, dedicated type, we had a simple dinner on the street in Impanema, then hopped on a bus that said "Lapa" on the front. It should have said "Lapa Tomorrow," as the ride was extremely long and bumpy.

It was really happening on the street and in the bars. We bounced between street vendors and brick-and-mortar establishments for a few beers, then went to Rio Scenarium. I think I've been there a couple of times before. I like it, but I'm not sure it's worth the premium to party there. 25R entrada, then relatively expensive drinks. The band downstairs was just okay, and the disco crowd upstairs was a tad young (for legitimate girl opportunities). It is a nice atmosphere, but I'm not eager to go back.

I may have to, though, as I will face political issues in front of Help my next visit.

Normally when there is a problem with a garota, it involves a greedy, sly girl and an unsuspecting and inexperienced gringo. My event contained none of those elements.

After a nice evening out, I simply wanted to have a couple of beers and see if my wingman could find a girl to his liking. There was slim-picken's for the girls and, for the most part, the same for us. My friend found a girl for himself, and a couple latched on to my remaining friend and I. There was definitely no chemistry with them, and my chemistry was impacted by too many beers. I had the sense to say, "no, no, no" several dozen times, but I found myself weakening with every tongue in the ear.

At one point, I tried to leave. They walked with me to a taxi, and I gave the driver 10R and told him they could pay the rest to get home. That idea led to "Aline" leaping out of the taxi to speak with me some more. Finally, as the Terrace Atlantic closed, I slid into a taxi but so did she. All the way to the hotel, I kept telling her I wanted to sleep and that I didn't want company. Yet, there she was and I seemed to be a willing participant.

When we arrived at the hotel, I realized we hadn't even talked about price. So unlike me, but I wasn't interested in making a purchase, so the price seemed unimportant. Then, the taxi driver didn't give me any credit for the money I previously paid, or was it even the same driver... things were so hazy. When I finally convinced her that I REALLY didn't want her there, she asked for 100R to leave or 200R to stay. Now, I should have shelled out the 100R because she did come back with me because I was too much of a drunken imbecile to say "no" (or at least say "no" and mean it). But, I was annoyed about being rolled by the taxi driver for an extra 20R, so I got 12R out and told her to taxi back to Help. Of course, she made a significant scene culminating with 4-6 hotel staffers. They told me that 12R would not get her anywhere and that I DID bring her back and did not provide a good, intelligible reason why I canceled the contract so swiftly. Bottom line, she demanded a minimum of 30R. I gave her that and 10R more as a gesture of my good will. Judging by the look on her face and the implicit threats, I don't think she was placated.

So, my Tues. and Wed. nights at Help this week might be interesting. I'm not sure I'd recognize her, but I'm confident she'll recognize me. I think I'll opt for an interior table outside, and ask Pedro the Matre Di to assign somebody to watch my back.

Actually, if I can figure out who she is before she screams at me, I'll probably pay her some more money and apologize. She was pushy, but could have extricated myself any number of times.

The next day, I enjoyed a purely Brazilian cultural extravaganza, meeting local friends for a ride to Barra Tijuca Shopping on the New York side, TGI Fridays for lunch and bowling in the afternoon. Fun if not completely authentic...

FT

Bubba Boy
05-11-08, 15:53
Yeah sure you didn't exactly do everything right, but at the end of the day she lost maybe 30 minutes of her time. In this day of the strong real and not exactly the height of the tourist season, she probably didn't loose a customer. I would not give her another cent, being labelled a cheap ass by the Help girls is not a bad things, they are less likely to try and get stupid prices from you. One more thing, if she even hinted at causing trouble for you when you go back to Terraço, just get a waiter to throw her out. They will gladly do it. Tourists pay the bills, helpers don't!

Never take shit from a Help girl! Never ever!

Abzsafado
05-11-08, 16:44
Visited MC yesterday, got there at 6pm. First impression was good but didn't recognize any of the girls. No girls higher than a 7 in my opinion. Had a beer at the bar and got talking to a little blonde at the bar her friend came over and we settled for a dupla. Usual shit happened. I was waiting for the girls to get ready when the lovely Sheila walks past on her way out from a session. You always see something better on the stairs. If only I had waited ten minutes. The dupla was good the blond was excellent, the other one was okay. Big asses on them both, strangely they looked smaller when they had their bikinis on
Went back downstairs for another beer and the place was pretty dead, only 5's left and no sign of Sheila, obviously a popular girl. Got talking to another girl, said she was portugese. A big girl but firm in all the right places. Popped upstairs and when I was waiting for her to get changed the receptionist comes up. She walks up to me and tells me that I have already had two girls, I thought fucking hell pussys in such short supply they are starting to ration it. But no, she just wants to confirm that I have enough cash to pay all the girls. That's the first time I have ever had that happen. Then she asks me if I want to register for their frequent customer scheme, I was thinking pussy miles, but it was just the free entrance thing that they do.
The portugese girl was pretty poor, worst I have ever had in MC's. Back down stairs the place was looking busy again which brings me back to what I originally wanted to say. RonnyRons report that MC was the worst he had seen it and he left after one beer could have been down to unlucky timing. If you go to MC the best strategy is to get there early. Then you can see most of the girls at the same time. If you arrive late don't assume that the girls you see are all thats available. You have to be there at least an hour before you can be almost sure that you have seen all thats available. The best girls are usually the busiest and they don't stay in the bar very long between customers.
Left at 9.45 just in time for something to eat before a visit to Franks and Ciccolines. Que vida ruim.

Jake993
05-11-08, 17:32
This is sort of a continuation of a report I started in the BH thread.
I arrived in Rio on Tuesday night after a few nights in Belo Horizonte. Thursday and Friday nights were sort of "wash outs" as I had business dinners and ended up pouring myself into a taxi at 2:00 AM [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) drunk from a lethal combination of Chope - Cashasa - wine (with dinner) and Whiskey. I have finally learned that finding a girl in that condition is not only a waste of money from a performance standpoint (usually mine) but a bit of a security risk.

But last night was sort of goofy. One of my business collegues invited me to his home on Barra on Saturday so I felt kind of obliged to spend the day with him and his family. Nice people. Lots of good food and choppe out at the local club. The long and the short of it was that I finally got back to my hotel at 2:00 AM on the nose and was stone cold sober. Even the doorman was shock to see me show up with no girl. Went upstairs to drop off my bag and get changed as I was still in shorts. I was actually a bit frantic considering the hour.

Decided to hit HELP first and see what was available. I arrived at about 2:45 AM and the pickings seemed pretty slim. Admittedly, I was sober as a judge and it looked more like "skank central". Clearly most of the prime girls were already gone and the barracudas who flocked towards me were a real turn off. I thought about Balcony Bar but considering the seedy characters lurking about at 3:00 AM (funny how you notice more when you are sober) I thought maybe Bararella's would be better from a security standpoint seeing as I was alone.

Barb's was actually pretty good. About 8 - 10 guys and 2 -3 dozen girls. There was one guy who had a table of about 14 girls with him. Hmmm - either big dick or huge wallet. Again, long story short, I ended up going home with a nice Mulata named Luana. We had a few drinks and some laughs. She did not speak a word of English but seemed to understand my Portuguese just fine so we got along just fine. About 4:00 AM we decided to hit the road. I asked about money and she seemed quite reluctant to haggle. I pressed her and she said that because it was Mother's day, she had to be heading home no later than 7:00 AM. She said they like to normally quote 500 reais for a starting standard program (whatever that is) but considering the hour she said that she would be happy with whatever I thought was fair after we had sex. Smart girl because she gave me one hell of a performance.

I am not normally a fan of the old rim job but this was something else. As I am fond of nicknames, I think I will call her Gene Simmons (if you get my drift). The program included 4 holes (one of them belonged to me), about 23 positions and one thundering orgasm (Happy Mother's Day Luana). Yikes!!!! How could I try to short change her after that?????

Going in I had decided that R$200 for a Barbarella's girl was plenty for only a few hours, but everything considered I decided to up it to $R300 just because it was Dia da Maes and her stellar performance.

Now I am off for a Sunday afternoon date with a non-pro (I think).

Edward M
05-12-08, 01:24
Yeah sure you didn't exactly do everything right, but at the end of the day she lost maybe 30 minutes of her time. In this day of the strong real and not exactly the height of the tourist season, she probably didn't loose a customer. I would not give her another cent, being labelled a cheap ass by the Help girls is not a bad things, they are less likely to try and get stupid prices from you. One more thing, if she even hinted at causing trouble for you when you go back to Terraço, just get a waiter to throw her out. They will gladly do it. Tourists pay the bills, helpers don't!

Never take shit from a Help girl! Never ever!I agree. Give her nothing. If you pay, you are just encouraging her bad behavior.

Azn Safado
05-12-08, 03:37
I went to NS Copacabana 583 today by taking the Subway to Rua Siqueira Campos and walking a couple of blocks south to NS Copacabana 583. Went upstairs and rang the doorbell for #204. Some madam lady answers and says come back tomorrow. I knock on #203 and no answer. It was Mother's Day so I guess both places were closed. Will try again later this week and provide my observations of this place.

Brazilman
05-12-08, 09:28
With gas going up every month, How much have flights gone up from a year or 2 ago. Anyone purchase recently and have a comparison. Whats it cost from the west coast nowadays.

Full Throttle
05-12-08, 12:26
I went to NS Copacabana 583 today by taking the Subway to Rua Siqueira Campos and walking a couple of blocks south to NS Copacabana 583. Went upstairs and rang the doorbell for #204. Some madam lady answers and says come back tomorrow. I knock on #203 and no answer. It was Mother's Day so I guess both places were closed. Will try again later this week and provide my observations of this place.

This place is a bad Centro terma located in Copa with Copa prices. You're only 250 yards from the subway station, I recommend taking the 25 minute ride downtown. R. Buenos Aires 85 is on par with 583, and only costs 10-20R (been a year or 2, so I can't remember). Aquarius and Lazer 502 are MUCH better and cheaper for an hour.

Thanks to those who offered support publicly and privately regarding the Help girl. I shouldn't be making rookie mistakes at this juncture. Blame it on Brahma and Skol. I'll find out the damage tomorrow t

FT

JayHighFive
05-13-08, 00:02
Fellas,
Do you know if the centro Termas like 4X4 will be open on Corpus Christi Day (May 22nd). Thanks for the help.

Azn Safado
05-14-08, 04:23
this place is a bad centro terma located in copa with copa prices. you're only 250 yards from the subway station, i recommend taking the 25 minute ride downtown. r. buenos aires 85 is on par with 583, and only costs 10-20r (been a year or 2, so i can't remember). aquarius and lazer 502 are much better and cheaper for an hour.

thanks to those who offered support publicly and privately regarding the help girl. i shouldn't be making rookie mistakes at this juncture. blame it on brahma and skol. i'll find out the damage tomorrow t

ftyeah, i normally go downtown to centro but this was on a sunday (where the centro termas were closed) so i figured i would just peek in to see what kind of quality, or lack thereof, girls there were at ns copacabana 583. i haven't had a chance to go back there yet and may not even get around to it.

Azn Safado
05-14-08, 04:32
I got the promo deal from their websites, ie, free cabine on Mondays for Solarium and Tuesdays for Monte Carlo.

So on Monday, I went to Solarium. Wow! Talk about garotas galore. It was sensory overload for me. So may 8's and 9's, that I had a hard time choosing. The ratio of girls to guys wasn't the greatest, maybe 30 girls to 12 guys, but there were plenty for the picking. I ended up choosing this beauty that looked like Mila Kunis from "That 70's Show/Saving Sarah Marshall". She was shy in the boite, buy muito bom in the cabine. Total damage was only 190R, since I had the free cabine coupon (valued at 60R).

Today, I went to Monte Carlo. There were about 20 girls there and only 3 guys. This place was dead and the quality was not very good, mostly 7's. I finally picked a girl Fabiana. In the past, I must say I have never had a disappointing session at MC, until tonight. This session would rate 7. 5/10, which is bad for one of the 3 major Copa termas (Luomo, Solarium, and Monte Carlo). Total damage again was only 190R, since I had the free cabine coupon (valued at 60R).

Since I'm out of coupons for the Copa Termas, it's off to 4x4 tomorrow, where I will pay 200R for a full hour session vs a 40-minute session in Copa. Btw, Luomo now has 50% off entrance fee if you arrive before 7p Monday. Friday, so 25R instead of 50R for entrance there.

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Johnath12
05-14-08, 15:48
I got the promo deal from their websites, ie, free cabine on Mondays for Solarium and Tuesdays for Monte Carlo.

So on Monday, I went to Solarium. Wow! Talk about garotas galore. It was sensory overload for me. So may 8's and 9's, that I had a hard time choosing. The ratio of girls to guys wasn't the greatest, maybe 30 girls to 12 guys, but there were plenty for the picking. I ended up choosing this beauty that looked like Mila Kunis from "That 70's Show/Saving Sarah Marshall". She was shy in the boite, buy muito bom in the cabine. Total damage was only 190R, since I had the free cabine coupon (valued at 60R).

Today, I went to Monte Carlo. There were about 20 girls there and only 3 guys. This place was dead and the quality was not very good, mostly 7's. I finally picked a girl Fabiana. In the past, I must say I have never had a disappointing session at MC, until tonight. This session would rate 7. 5/10, which is bad for one of the 3 major Copa termas (Luomo, Solarium, and Monte Carlo). Total damage again was only 190R, since I had the free cabine coupon (valued at 60R).

Since I'm out of coupons for the Copa Termas, it's off to 4x4 tomorrow, where I will pay 200R for a full hour session vs a 40-minute session in Copa. Btw, Luomo now has 50% off entrance fee if you arrive before 7p Monday. Friday, so 25R instead of 50R for entrance there.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.Thanks for this report!

Although I have to say im planning on visiting a South American country and i beleived rio was the best for the women. This may be true, but WTF is going on with the prices! 200r for a 40 minute session works out at about 70pounds in the uk. I thought Roi was supposed to be cheap:(( Theses are not cheap prices i expected from these walk in joints.

Edward M
05-14-08, 16:02
Since I'm out of coupons for the Copa Termas, it's off to 4x4 tomorrow, where I will pay 200R for a full hour session vs a 40-minute session in Copa.Is 4x4 now R$200 for an hour? It was R$180 a month ago.

Wandering Fool
05-14-08, 16:38
Anyone notice that Hotside now has videos of the girls (some of them)? I know in the past this site has been hit or miss (I had a hit the one time I tried it) but you can't photoshop video so, this should make it easier to know what you're getting. Plus, it eliminates to complete fraud photos so at least you should be in the ballpark.

Look for the little "play" logo on the girl's banner then go to the bottom of her page. They play the same annoying song for every girl, lol. I'd say about 10% of them have video.

www.hotside.com.br

Azn Safado
05-14-08, 17:59
Is 4x4 now R$200 for an hour? It was R$180 a month ago.Oh, I'm not sure I guess. I thought it was 180R for 40-min and 200R for 60-min. Anyway, I'll find out sometime this week when I go.

Exec Talent
05-14-08, 21:54
200r for a 40 minute session works out at about 70pounds in the uk. I thought Roi was supposed to be cheap:(( Theses are not cheap prices i expected from these walk in joints.

Anyone traveling to Rio thinking that it is a cheap destination will get a rude awakening. Nothing is cheap there -- lodging, food, drinks and most of all, entertainment. I have seen some of the same guys there as I have in the past and now they are going in debt by getting cash advances against their credit cards to make the trips.

Lately I have been reading with interest reports on Lima, Peru among other destinations.

Jake993
05-15-08, 00:48
Lately I have been reading with interest reports on Lima, Peru among other destinations.

I hear you brother - just got back from Rio. I was in Moscow a few weeks earlier and spent about the same amount for the same number of performances. (slight exaggeration)

I hear that Argentina is also a pretty good value. Not only for sport but for travel in general. I read in a travel magazine that Argentina and South Africa are two currencies that have not fared particularly well against the US dollar...... must be the ONLY two.

Wandering Fool
05-15-08, 02:41
My experience last spring (my last visit) was that there were less really high end girls, the 9's and 10's, than in previous trips. Centaurs, which used to look like a scene from James Bond had completely crashed. The other termas like Solarium, Termas 69 were also not what they were several years earlier. 4x4 had picked up some slack, thank goodness but still wasn't what Centaurs used to be.

A local friend of mine who knows the scene had said the hot girls had gone to Sampa. I'm now reading on the Sampa board that some people think things have died down there too.

So the question is, what is happening? The laws of genetics remain in place, so theoretically the same "cream of the crop" percentage of high end girls should be joining the fray to replinish the supply every year.

If not in Rio and Sampa, where are they?

Exec Talent
05-15-08, 03:35
My experience last spring (my last visit) was that there were less really high end girls, the 9's and 10's, than in previous trips. Centaurs, which used to look like a scene from James Bond had completely crashed. The other termas like Solarium, Termas 69 were also not what they were several years earlier. 4x4 had picked up some slack, thank goodness but still wasn't what Centaurs used to be.

A local friend of mine who knows the scene had said the hot girls had gone to Sampa. I'm now reading on the Sampa board that some people think things have died down there too.

So the question is, what is happening? The laws of genetics remain in place, so theoretically the same "cream of the crop" percentage of high end girls should be joining the fray to replinish the supply every year.

If not in Rio and Sampa, where are they?


As in, Western Europe. By far the best looking Brazilian I was with last year was in Lucerne, Switzerland, not Brazil. She was a true 10 in every way. In Europe, you get the best that Brazil has to offer, not just Rio.

Several people have suggested to me that the best looking women in Brazil can be found in Goiânia. I have met some women from there in Rio and what I was told, held true. Very attractive with awesome bodies. May be worth a trip!!!

Azn Safado
05-15-08, 04:30
I hear you brother - just got back from Rio. I was in Moscow a few weeks earlier and spent about the same amount for the same number of performances. (slight exaggeration)

I hear that Argentina is also a pretty good value. Not only for sport but for travel in general. I read in a travel magazine that Argentina and South Africa are two currencies that have not fared particularly well against the US dollar...... must be the ONLY two.I wrote a travel report comparing Colombia to Rio to BsAS in another forum back in August 2007. I guess it's worth posting here while we're on the topic of BsAS vs Rio:

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Took my first trip to South America and decided on a 3 country tour of Colombia, Brazil, then Argentina.

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First stop - Medellin, Colombia.

Great city. Excellent temperate climate all year round. Stayed at Medellin Mansion, which is a mansion with about 12 bedrooms where working girls hang around. This is probably the best place to stay for a lone monger, as pretty much only mongers stay here and the mongers meet in the common areas of the house and usually go out at night together or trade stories. Here is the pricing structure in Medellin:

*Mansion girls - working girls at the Mansion asking 150,000 COP ($75 USD) Some will take 100,000 ($50 USD) Sessions usually 1 - 1.5 hrs. YMMV as far as BBBJ and GFE. I had a BBBJ / GFE because I got along well with the girl and took her to dinner a couple of times.

*Massage parlors - upscale one like Loutron's is 150,000 ($75 USD) per hour. I went to one called Energy which was very nice, just a notch below Loutron's and they charged 75,000 ($37.50 USD) for an hour. Session was OK, but there are some jewels to be found from what I heard. Plus, it's easy to get them out of these parlors and come see you after work for a better negotiated rate.

*Strip clubs - strip clubs with back rooms to get busy in. Fase Dos is the nicest one with the best looking girls but pricey at 150,000 per hour. I went to a lower end one called San Diego Grill, where the price is 100,000 per hour. I didn't session there but got the girl's number and she came over the next day. Damage was 150,000 for 2 hours (2 pops) Pretty good GFE experience.

*Street action - there's a street called Mayorista where you can find maybe find 5 outta 100 attractive girls. I think their rates are around 25,000 ($12 USD) per hour. There are indeed gems to be had, but I don't like the street scene, so I passed.

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Second Stop - Rio De Janeiro, Brazil.

Fun city to visit. Dirty and you have to be careful walking alone in some areas. Stayed at an apartment since most hotels don't seem to be chica friendly or at least charge some kind of fee.

*Termas - basically a sauna where you dress in a robe and go to another room that looks like a regular bar / dance club. All the women are in their bikini's and you mingle with one until you want to take her back to the cabine (back rooms) Cabines are very nice and clean. Cost for Termas in Copacabana usually run about 240 - 260 Reals ($120 - 130 USD) This is usually broken down into 60R entry fee, 60-80R room fee, and 100-120R fee for the girl. Sessions are typically only 40 minutes. Quite pricey. The Termas girls are the friendliest girls I have ever met. They will sit, chat with you, make out with you right in the bar area. Pretty much all of them DFK and give BBBJ. Went to a couple of Termas (4x4 and Luomo's) and had good experiences at both. It's a cool place to chill, take a steam bath, have a session, get a massage, have another session, eat some food at the buffet, etc. These girls love sex and are easy to take out of the Termas. I had a session with this one girl and met another one a few minutes afterwards. I told her I was beat so she would have to come to my apartment after work instead. She agreed to a price of 200R ($100 USD) "where time didn't matter". She of course was total GFE and stayed the whole night and left at 10a the next morning. Talk about a bargain. The next night, I called her and she agreed to come over again where no money was discussed. She stayed the whole night again and we did it a couple of times. Next morning, she didn't even ask for cab fare or anything.

This is one thing that I can say is good about the Termas - the girls are tested regularly and seem more stable than some girls that freelance at clubs. Seems most are willing to see you outside the Termas for a much lower price, so some great deals can be had. This is the way I went while in Rio, seeing them outside the Termas.

*Discos - HELP is the biggest one in South America. I went once. There were about 200 girls and 200 guys. Most girls were unattractive to me and I hear there are a lot of drug users there. I think the going price is 200-300R for 2 hours ($100-150 USD) This is a freelance place with no bar fines for taking the girl out.

-Barbarella is another disco but it is pricey. It is structured like Black's, Madaho's, etc I believe. I think the damage will be 400-500R to take the girl out. Not a good value but I hear the girls are stunners.

*Low end street and bar action - there's an area called Vila Mimosa for very cheap activity. I think like 26R ($13USD) an hour or something. Not my scene, so I can't really report.

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3rd Stop - Buenos Aires.

I'll admit, I did the least mongering here.

*Boliches - I just didn't find too much value here since the Recoleta clubs like Madaho's are now 300 pesos an hour ($100 USD) just for the girl. Factor in the drink prices and cover charge (50 + 80) and you are at 430 - 450 pesos to take a girl back to your place for 1 - 1.5 hours.

*Bars - there are other bars like Newport where free lancers hang out and there are no bar fines. I stopped by Newport one night and the girls were around 6-7 in looks. I think their going rate may be 200 pesos an hour.

*Privados - private apartments provide the best value. I went to Esmeralda 517 1-be and there were 6 chicas there. I think 3 outta the 6 were in the 8 range in looks. Price was 100 pesos for 30 minutes or 150 p for 1 hour. I chose the quickie. Session was with an Argentine girl which was ok - light kissing, CBJ. But hell, it was cheap.

I hear the Paraguay girls are way better in the sack than Argentines, but I did not get to experience any while here. All in all, I'd say BsAs isn't the most convenient mongering place - in Colombia there are the massage parlors that are well known and are a constant, in Rio there are the Termas and discos, and then there's BsAs. Lacking in massage parlors and termas, BsAS privados are the best value and good for daytime action, but they tend to move around a bit and the boliches are quite pricey and don't start up until around 1am or so. So for the evening action between 8p - 1 am, it's slim pickens. Maybe some privados that run 24 hours, or the freelance coffee shops like Exedra.

All in all, I thought sex in Rio was by far the best. I had good experiences in Colombia too, but Colombianas don't have as much passion as Rio girls. They may be on par with Argentina chicas, although looks-wise I prefer the Colombian look.

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Sperto
05-15-08, 05:53
...just got back from Rio. I was in Moscow a few weeks earlier and spent about the same amount for the same number of performances...
Can Moscow offer massage houses where you can get laid for US$ 6 (R$ 10)?

Is the Quality in Brazil declining? My experience last spring (my last visit) was that there were less really high end girls, the 9's and 10's, than in previous trips. Centaurs, which used to look like a scene from James Bond had completely crashed. The other termas like Solarium, Termas 69 were also not what they were several years earlier. 4x4 had picked up some slack, thank goodness but still wasn't what Centaurs used to be.
I would say that the quality in Brazil has not declined, it's just as good as it always has been. In your case I guess the high end girls just have choosen not to work at the termas you mentioned. A GP has so many options where she can work. Escort agencies, using her own website, private clinic etc. There are lot of brazilians with plenty of money. Regarding the strong real it's a bit of a waste for a high end girl to work at a terma mainly directed to gringos.

Exec Talent
05-15-08, 06:28
I was reviewing my credit card online, including those for L'uomo which appears as Hugos Bar. However, when you drill down to the details it says Doing Business As: Termas L'uomo. Not a good thing if someone else has access to your credit card account.

Orebell
05-15-08, 08:45
Well, you better make sure your mother does not see the statement then. She might wonder what you are up to. Also, do you think she will know what Termas L'uomo actually is? You could tell her it is spa of some sort. Seriously, if you are trying to conceal someone else from seeing where you have spending your money then it goes without saying that you better have a card in your own name that sends you electronic statements or you better be very very careful.

I needed to conceal my credit card so I used a card that sends me online statements vs getting them in the mail. Also the card is in my name only so prying eyes typically do not look if it were coming in the mail. Worked superbly. However I almost blew it when I left my plane ticket stubs laying around because I needed to enter the miles in their mileage account. That almost got me caught. Don't know how I would have pulled off having to explain that one.


I was reviewing my credit card online, including those for L'uomo which appears as Hugos Bar. However, when you drill down to the details it says Doing Business As: Termas L'uomo. Not a good thing if someone else has access to your credit card account.

Jesuscola
05-15-08, 13:17
As in, Western Europe. By far the best looking Brazilian I was with last year was in Lucerne, Switzerland, not Brazil. She was a true 10 in every way. In Europe, you get the best that Brazil has to offer, not just Rio.

Several people have suggested to me that the best looking women in Brazil can be found in Goiânia. I have met some women from there in Rio and what I was told, held true. Very attractive with awesome bodies. May be worth a trip!!!

More than one Brazilian has told me that there are no ugly women in Goiania...

Sperto
05-15-08, 14:21
More than one Brazilian has told me that there are no ugly women in Goiania...
That's one rumor I also heard a lot, just like the rumor that Belo Horizonte has seven times more women than men.

Compared to other cities in Brazil I found Goiânia quite boring, even though it's easy to score non-pro's. There are some hot girls but nothing that spectacular.

I only gave Goiânia place 21 on my brazilian top-list. :)
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=532479&postcount=209

Prosal
05-15-08, 14:27
Several people have suggested to me that the best looking women in Brazil can be found in Goiânia. I have met some women from there in Rio and what I was told, held true. Very attractive with awesome bodies. May be worth a trip!!!
ET

Maybe you missed this report I made about Goiania.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=560222&postcount=242

I have to disagree with Sperto. Goiania is not boring. I personally really enjoy the country & western atmosphere of the whole Goias state.

And yes, the density of good looking meninas in Goiania is really high. I'm not saying that you bump every 10 meters into a top beauty (this is not the case ANYWHERE in Brasil) but undoubtably, the number of truly hot girls there vs. Rio is probably roughly 10 to 1.

Pelicano
05-15-08, 15:31
Is 4x4 now R$200 for an hour? It was R$180 a month ago.


Probably he went to the suite versus the cabine, the cabine is 180 per hour as of last Monday.

Ricker
05-15-08, 16:31
I wrote a travel report comparing Colombia to Rio to BsAS in another forum back in August 2007. I guess it's worth posting here while we're on the topic of BsAS vs Rio:

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Took my first trip to South America and decided on a 3 country tour of Colombia, Brazil, then Argentina.

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First stop - Medellin, Colombia.

Great city. Excellent temperate climate all year round. Stayed at Medellin Mansion, which is a mansion with about 12 bedrooms where working girls hang around. This is probably the best place to stay for a lone monger, as pretty much only mongers stay here and the mongers meet in the common areas of the house and usually go out at night together or trade stories. Here is the pricing structure in Medellin:

*Mansion girls - working girls at the Mansion asking 150,000 COP ($75 USD) Some will take 100,000 ($50 USD) Sessions usually 1 - 1.5 hrs. YMMV as far as BBBJ and GFE. I had a BBBJ / GFE because I got along well with the girl and took her to dinner a couple of times.

*Massage parlors - upscale one like Loutron's is 150,000 ($75 USD) per hour. I went to one called Energy which was very nice, just a notch below Loutron's and they charged 75,000 ($37.50 USD) for an hour. Session was OK, but there are some jewels to be found from what I heard. Plus, it's easy to get them out of these parlors and come see you after work for a better negotiated rate.

*Strip clubs - strip clubs with back rooms to get busy in. Fase Dos is the nicest one with the best looking girls but pricey at 150,000 per hour. I went to a lower end one called San Diego Grill, where the price is 100,000 per hour. I didn't session there but got the girl's number and she came over the next day. Damage was 150,000 for 2 hours (2 pops) Pretty good GFE experience.

*Street action - there's a street called Mayorista where you can find maybe find 5 outta 100 attractive girls. I think their rates are around 25,000 ($12 USD) per hour. There are indeed gems to be had, but I don't like the street scene, so I passed.

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Second Stop - Rio De Janeiro, Brazil.

Fun city to visit. Dirty and you have to be careful walking alone in some areas. Stayed at an apartment since most hotels don't seem to be chica friendly or at least charge some kind of fee.

*Termas - basically a sauna where you dress in a robe and go to another room that looks like a regular bar / dance club. All the women are in their bikini's and you mingle with one until you want to take her back to the cabine (back rooms) Cabines are very nice and clean. Cost for Termas in Copacabana usually run about 240 - 260 Reals ($120 - 130 USD) This is usually broken down into 60R entry fee, 60-80R room fee, and 100-120R fee for the girl. Sessions are typically only 40 minutes. Quite pricey. The Termas girls are the friendliest girls I have ever met. They will sit, chat with you, make out with you right in the bar area. Pretty much all of them DFK and give BBBJ. Went to a couple of Termas (4x4 and Luomo's) and had good experiences at both. It's a cool place to chill, take a steam bath, have a session, get a massage, have another session, eat some food at the buffet, etc. These girls love sex and are easy to take out of the Termas. I had a session with this one girl and met another one a few minutes afterwards. I told her I was beat so she would have to come to my apartment after work instead. She agreed to a price of 200R ($100 USD) "where time didn't matter". She of course was total GFE and stayed the whole night and left at 10a the next morning. Talk about a bargain. The next night, I called her and she agreed to come over again where no money was discussed. She stayed the whole night again and we did it a couple of times. Next morning, she didn't even ask for cab fare or anything.

This is one thing that I can say is good about the Termas - the girls are tested regularly and seem more stable than some girls that freelance at clubs. Seems most are willing to see you outside the Termas for a much lower price, so some great deals can be had. This is the way I went while in Rio, seeing them outside the Termas.

*Discos - HELP is the biggest one in South America. I went once. There were about 200 girls and 200 guys. Most girls were unattractive to me and I hear there are a lot of drug users there. I think the going price is 200-300R for 2 hours ($100-150 USD) This is a freelance place with no bar fines for taking the girl out.

-Barbarella is another disco but it is pricey. It is structured like Black's, Madaho's, etc I believe. I think the damage will be 400-500R to take the girl out. Not a good value but I hear the girls are stunners.

*Low end street and bar action - there's an area called Vila Mimosa for very cheap activity. I think like 26R ($13USD) an hour or something. Not my scene, so I can't really report.

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3rd Stop - Buenos Aires.

I'll admit, I did the least mongering here.

*Boliches - I just didn't find too much value here since the Recoleta clubs like Madaho's are now 300 pesos an hour ($100 USD) just for the girl. Factor in the drink prices and cover charge (50 + 80) and you are at 430 - 450 pesos to take a girl back to your place for 1 - 1.5 hours.

*Bars - there are other bars like Newport where free lancers hang out and there are no bar fines. I stopped by Newport one night and the girls were around 6-7 in looks. I think their going rate may be 200 pesos an hour.

*Privados - private apartments provide the best value. I went to Esmeralda 517 1-be and there were 6 chicas there. I think 3 outta the 6 were in the 8 range in looks. Price was 100 pesos for 30 minutes or 150 p for 1 hour. I chose the quickie. Session was with an Argentine girl which was ok - light kissing, CBJ. But hell, it was cheap.

I hear the Paraguay girls are way better in the sack than Argentines, but I did not get to experience any while here. All in all, I'd say BsAs isn't the most convenient mongering place - in Colombia there are the massage parlors that are well known and are a constant, in Rio there are the Termas and discos, and then there's BsAs. Lacking in massage parlors and termas, BsAS privados are the best value and good for daytime action, but they tend to move around a bit and the boliches are quite pricey and don't start up until around 1am or so. So for the evening action between 8p - 1 am, it's slim pickens. Maybe some privados that run 24 hours, or the freelance coffee shops like Exedra.

All in all, I thought sex in Rio was by far the best. I had good experiences in Colombia too, but Colombianas don't have as much passion as Rio girls. They may be on par with Argentina chicas, although looks-wise I prefer the Colombian look.

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Reading your comparison I pretty much agree with your assessment.

I spend quite a bit of time in all 3 countries.

Colombia ... best chicas to fall in love with.

Brazil ... best to have wild and passionate sex.

Argentina ... like you said, nice, inexpensive, DAYTIME fun. I agree also, my favorite chica in BA is from Paraguay.

Good luck !!

Azn Safado
05-15-08, 23:42
WC. I always use Ben Brothers Jewlers to exchange money. He always gives the best exchange rate. He does ask for $100 bills. On my last trip, wnen the exchange rate was 1.68, he gave us 1.80. It is located on Rua Xavier de Silvera a block and a half off Avenida Atlantica on the right hand side. Edvard is always there and he is glad to do buisness with you. Hope this helps.I went to visit Edvard at Ben Bros Jewelers last week on a Saturday. The exchange rate was 1.65, but unfortunately the best he could do for me was 1.67. He's a really cool guy to talk to. I went ahead and bought $400 USD worth of Reals from him.

Today I went to a place on Rua Prado Junior right off NS Copacabana called "Fast Line Tours Viagens e Cambio". The exchange rate today is 1.66. They were able to give me the best rate so far during this trip - I got 1.70. I have ducked my head into a lot of other cambios this trip and the best they offered so far is 1.68.

Azn Safado
05-16-08, 00:16
Been in Rio for 6 days and finally got a chance to hit the Centro termas today.

1) Quatro por Quatro (4 x 4). Got there at around 3 pm. It was nice and semi-empty, ie, no sausage fest. There were about 25-30 girls and 6 guys in the boite, so plenty of places to sit. It took me all of 10 minutes to pick a beautiful garota. One with dyed red hair. Took the 1-hour cabine option at 3:30p. So the 40R entry fee was waved since it was booked before 5p. Session was great. Was able to actually pop twice. Other attempts to 2x pop during this trip have failed, but this girl knew how to hit the right buttons. Total damage: 180R.

2) Rua Buenos Aires 85. Went up the narrow spiral staircase and got to the 2nd floor. This place wasn't exactly what I pictured. I thought each floor was going to be a long hallway with *****s peaking out of little rooms like what I read in the Belo Horizonte threads. So floors 2, 3, 4, and 5 each have a very small boite, with about 6-10 garotas in each boite. The talent was dreadful on pretty much every floor. So much for the "gem" that may be found here. I think there was one girl that was a 7. 5, the rest in the 4-6 range. Time to vamos.

3) Rio Branco 156/3320. Took the elevator to 32nd floor, then another elevator to 33rd floor. This big mall has a weird elevator system. Anyway, I first checked #3330, but that place has turned into a DVD replication place or something. So onto #3320. This place doesn't have a name on the outside of the door, but I picked up a business card and it says "Duda Massagens Express". I asked the receptionist how many garotas were on tap, and she said 14. I said "bring them out". I only got to meet 4 of the girls. I guess the others were occupied or something. This was at 5:30p. One of the girls I met happened to be the same one I sessioned with back in November. So of the 4 girls I met, I'd say 2 of them are 8. 5's, the other 2 about 7. 5's. Not too bad. I guess it's best to get there early, to see the full lineup. The rate at this place is 85R for 40 mins and 100R for 60 mins. I may come back next week if I'm in the mood for fast food.

4) Club Florida at Praca Maua 19. I've read some good things about this strip club. It was 6:30p on a Thursday and I went up the stairs to peak in. There were 2 girls in there, sitting with some guy with no music or anything playing. Place was dead yo, so I proceeded to continue to the next block.

5) MV 30 (Mairink Veiga 30). Walked up the stairs and asked the receptionist if I could take a peak in the boite. Saw one guy with a robe, and about 6 bored girls sitting around. One looked cute, but that was about it. Price is 20R entrance and 175R for one hour! Who would go here when they can go to 4x4 and get a better deal with a superior selection!

Well, that was enough sight-seeing for the day. I'll head to Centro again tomorrow and may give Termas Cancun a try. I peaked in once and it looked nice, but I haven't really read any reports on the place. Will probably end up sessioning at ole reliable 4x4.

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Wanderer1000
05-16-08, 02:49
[QUOTE=Azn Safado]I wrote a travel report comparing Colombia to Rio to BsAS in another forum back in August 2007. I guess it's worth posting here while we're on the topic of BsAS vs Rio:

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Took my first trip to South America and decided on a 3 country tour of Colombia, Brazil, then Argentina.

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Azn Safado -

Without quoting your whole report - I have to agree with pretty much everything you said. I have been traveling to South America a lot in the past three years, and I've spent most of my time in these three cities and many of the places you mentioned. As I was reading, I was thinking, "I could have written this report". Good concise comparison of the three cities. I would disagree on one point on the casa scene in B.A. though - while not very expensive, the girls and the performances were at best okay, and so many of these girls needed to brush their teeth and gargle with Listerine. Some real sh-t breathes. The one highlight I found in a B.A. casa last summer was a girl from Paraguay - so it fit the rumor I had heard that they're generally better than the Argentinas.

Termas Time
05-16-08, 05:44
Azn Safado,

Good analysis. I would just like to add that many BA regulars go to the club in the Microcentro area such as Hook's, Catto's, etc...... They are a cheaper alternatives to the Black's and Safado's of BA.

I would also agree with the statements below. In terms of pure beauty, I would go with the Colombianas. In terms of sexual excitement, I would go with the Brasileras.

Termas Time

Termas Time
05-16-08, 05:49
Azn Safado,

Since you asked for Termas Cancun info, here is my report from last year.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=578199#post578199

Sperto
05-16-08, 07:12
Update on Casas de Massagem and Termas in Centro, pricerange R$ 10-85.

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Note: An updated list of cheap Centro Casas might be very useful to many of us. I know that Christopherd, Full Throttle, Ibiza, El Austriaco, Bubba Boy and other Centro fans will help updating the list and adding new places. All of you other members who use the list, please, try also to help updating the list. Don’t be a miserable lurker that only takes and gives nothing back. OK?

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All the info and ratings are based on my experiences, in March 2008. Your experience of these casas might be totally different. In these casas the number of girls and the standard can change very quickly. Some might also close or move.

I've also made a new updated Centro Map,attached.

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I rated them A, B and C. A being over average, B being average and C under average.
Cabin:
A= Clean cabin, big bed, new sheets, A/C and shower possibility.
B= Decent cabin, small bed, A/C or ventilador.
C= Fast-sex-cabin, simple, dirty, smelly and noisy. No showers.

Service::
A= Receives visitors in a very nice and discreet way, girls presenting themselves in pleasant way, girls doing their best
in the sex-act. Allows multiple pops.
B= Receives you fairly well. Girls giving a good service.
C= Girls lined up. Girls might be ignorant or having a bad attitude. Take a pick, fuck and leave.

Standard (on the girls):
A= Better than average, sometimes with some stunners.
B= Average standard.
C= Low end. Majority ugly with few exceptions.

Number:
The number of girls available. This number depends on the day of the week and the time you go there.

WV (Worth a Visit):
A= Definitely worth a visit. A very good chance of finding a nice girl.
B= Worth a visit if you have plenty of time. Don't have to high expectations. Might find something you’ll like.
C= Not worth a visit. Very small chances of finding a nice girl.

Rec (Recommended):
Girls whose performances were good and deserves special recommendations.

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Casas de Massagem and Termas, R$ 10-85.

1. Avenida Rio Branco 156, Edificio Central:
- Apto 3320: Cabin=A, Service=A, Standard=A, Number=15, WV=A
R$ 85/40 min, R$ 100/60 min
Rec: Poliana (18 y, incredible), Erika (19 y, wonderful). Alessandra (21 y, very sweet)
- Apto 2622 (old 3330): Cabin=A, Service=A, Standard=A, Number=8, WV=A
R$ 65/40 min, R$ 85/60 min
Rec: Paola (23 y, big tits), Luisa (20 y, big tits), Graciella (24 y, mulatta)
- Apto 2114: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=4, WV=B
R$ 65/30 min, R$ 85/60 min, R$ 95/dupla 30 min, R$ 125/dupla 60 min
- Apto 1839: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=C, Number=3, WV=B
R$ 60/30 min, R$ 80/60 min
- Apto 1703 (old 1706): Cabin=A, Service=A, Standard=A, Number=11, WV=A
R$ 60/30 min, R$ 80/40 min, R$ 80/60 min

2. Avenida Rio Branco 185:
- Apto 2114: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=13, WV=B
R$ 60/30 min, R$ 80/60 min
- Apto 1829: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=4, WV=C
R$ 50/30 min, R$ 70/60 min

3. Avenida Rio Branco 181:
- Apto 1506: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=6, WV=B
R$ 60/30 min, R$ 90/60 min
- Apto 210: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=C, Number=4, WV=C
R$ 50/30 min, R$ 70/60 min

4. Rua México 148:
- Apto 804: Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=C, Number=3, WV=C
R$ 60/30 min, R$ 70/40 min, R$ 100/60 min

5. Rua Almirante Barroso 6:
- Apto 305: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=C, Number=4, WV=B
R$ 70/40 min, R$ 100/60 min

6. Rua Santa Lucia 405:
- Apto 429: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=C, Number=C; WV=C
R$ 30/1 pop no time

7. Rua da Carioca 59: 3 floors, 5 casas.
Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=C, Number=20, WV=B
R$ 1/min
Rec: Crystal (20 y, big tits), Viviane (20 y, big tits)

8. Rua da Carioca 40: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=15, WV=B
R$ 15/10 min, R$ 30/20 min, R$ 40/30 min

9. Rua Uruguaiana 24: Several floors.
Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=C, Number=20, WV=C
R$ 15/10 min, R$ 20/20 min, R$ 30/20 min

10. Rua do Ouvidor 130:
- Apto 911: Cabin=B, Service=C, Standard=C, Number=3, WV=C
R$ 20/20 min, R$ 30/30 min
- Apto 707: Cabin=B, Service=A, Standard=B, Number=6, WV=A
R$ 20/1 pop no time
Rec: Kelly (20 y, wonderful), Juliana (21 y, beautiful)

11. Rua Buenos Aires 85: 5 floors.
Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=35, WV=A
R$ 1/min
Rec: Evelyn (19 y, beautiful), Melissa (18 y, morena), Michelle (24 y, hot mulatta), Milena (19 y, big tits, mulatta)

12. Rua Buenos Aires 93:
- Apto 513: Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=C, Number=3, WV=C
R$ 70/30 min, R$ 90/60 min

13. Rua Buenos Aires 113: Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=C, Number=20, WV=C
R$ 1/min

14. Travessa do Ouvidor 37: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=20, WV=B
Entrada=R$, R$ 30/20 min, R$ 50/30 min, R$ 70/40 min

15. Rua da Quitanda 81 (Club Gatinha): Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=20, WV=B
Entrada=R$ 10, R$ 70/30 min, R$ 110/60 min

16. Avenida Presidente Vargas 633:
- Apto 1608: Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=C, Number=3, WV=C
R$ 10/10 min, R$ 20/20 min, R$ 30/30 min
- Apto 417: Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=B, Number=6, WV=C
R$ 15/10 min, R$ 20/20 min, R$ 40/30 min

17. Avenida Presidente Vargas 590:
- Apto 1005: Cabin=A, Service=A, Standard=B, Number=2, WV=B
R$ 40/30 min, R$ 60/60 min
Rec: Adriana (29 y, big tits)

18. Rua Conceicao 116: Cabin=C, Service=B, Standard=C, Number=15, WV=C
R$ 30/30 min, R$ 50/40 min, R$ 70/60 min

19. Rua do Acre 120: Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=B, Number=4, WV=B
R$ 15/10 min, R$ 20/20 min, R$ 30/30 min
Rec: Veronica (25 y, big ass, big tits)

20. Rua Leandro Martins 3: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=C, Number=9, WV=C
R$ 20/20 min, R$ 30/30 min

21. Rua Leandro Martins 5: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=15, WV=B
R$ 15/15 min, R$ 20/20 min, R$ 30/30 min

22. Rua do Acre 61 (Whiskeria Aquarius): Number=20, WV=B
R$ 70/20 min, R$ 90/30 min, R$ 110/40 min, R$ 130/60 min. (Cheaper before 4PM).

23. Praca Mauá, Florida: Stripclub with cabins. Cabin=A, Service=A, Standard=A, Number=15, WV=A
Entrada=R$ 10, R$ 65/30 min, R$ 110/60 min.

24. Praca Mauá, Escandinavia: Stripclub. WV=B

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* Vila Mimosa: 72 casas.
Cabin=B and C, Service=C (some B), Standard=C, Number=roughly 1500, counting all shifts and weekendworkers. WV=A
Gems to be found.
R$ 25/30 min, R$ 1/condom
Some casas with better cabins will cost you R$ 2 more.
Hotel Canário (motel)=R$ 25/4 hs. Girl will charge you R$ 40-60/2 hs at Canário.

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It's very annoying visiting addresses where the casa has moved, closed or the address doesn't even exist. It can cause quite embarrassing situations when you knock on a door expecting to find a casa de massagem and it turns out to be a lawyers office or a dental clinic.

I've made a list of addresses of casas, that has been earlier reported on this forum as casas de massagem, which has now moved, closed or never existed. At least that was the case when I passed by.

Not working addresses:

* Avenida Rio Branco 156, Edificio Central:
- Apto 1833: Doesn’t exist.
- Apto 1829: Doesn’t exist.
- Apto 1825: Closed.
- Apto 1706: Moved to 1703.

* Avenida Presidente Vargas 590:
- Apto 1317: Closed.

* Avenida Presidente Vargas 633:
- Apto 1307: Closed.
- Apto 1408: Closed.

* Rua 13 de Maio 47:
- Apto 1413: Doesn’t exist.
- Apto 2408: Closed.

* Rua Evaristo Veiga 47:
- Apto 501: Closed.
- Apto 502: Closed.
- Apto 701: Closed.
- Apto702: Closed.

* Rua Marechal Floriano 1:Closed.

* Rua Uruguaiana 145: Closed.

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I have made a new updated Centro map. Because of the size limit for posting pictures/JPG is 640x480 I couldn't do the map in JPG-format. I did it in PDF-format. Unfortunately the size limit for posting PDF is 390,6 kb. Because of this the map is a little bit blurry.

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As I earlier posted various maps in this forum it can be a bit confusing which map that's the latest and most updated one. Because of this I also attach the most updated Vila Mimosa and Copacabana maps in this report.

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Attached:
- Sperto, Centro, Map, Updated March 2008
- Sperto, Vila Mimosa, Directions, Map, PDF
- Sperto, Vila Mimosa, Directions, Map, JPG
- Sperto, Vila Mimosa, Detailed Alleys, MAP
- Sperto, Copacabana, Map, PDF

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Finally, as I said in the beginning: all info and ratings are based on MY experiences, in March 2008. Things changes very quickly. Your experience of these casas might be totally different. This list is just meant to be a help in your exploring of Centro. Hopefully you can add many more places.

Cheers
Sperto

P.S THE CENTRO MAP IS THE FIRST ATTACHED PDF-FILE!
The one named "Sperto, Centro, Map, Updated March 2008.pdf".
The other four maps are the latest versions of my other maps, already posted before.

JohnnyBraz
05-16-08, 11:23
Sperto,

Evelyn from ba 85, did you find her on the top floor always around by the lift area? I done her each morning I visited there in March. She used to start work pretty much when it opened at 10: 30, looking through my brazilian numbers I have hers and she is very pretty for ba 85.

Bubba Boy
05-16-08, 14:27
I have already added it to reports of distinction. An absolute must print out and take with you to Rio.

Exceptional report from an exceptional monger.

Azn Safado
05-16-08, 16:03
Azn Safado,

Since you asked for Termas Cancun info, here is my report from last year.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=578199#post578199Termas Time,

Thanks for the link. Since today is Friday, I will skip Cancun and try it next Tuesday.

Azn Safado
05-16-08, 16:14
I still have 10 days left in Rio, so I hope somebody can answer these questions for me.

1) I went to Florida Stripclub at 6:30p on a Thursday night and it was totally dead, with only 2 girls and no music playing. What is a good day and time to go, where all of there girls will be working?

2) For Aquarius on Rua Do Acre 61, I've heard the term Whiskeria Aquarius used and also someone on the forum mentioned Termas Aquarius being next door or something. When I went there, I went into some boite where there were about 20 girls. No changing into robes or anything. Is there a Termas Aquarius connected next door or something?

Sperto
05-16-08, 21:40
Sperto,
Evelyn from ba 85, did you find her on the top floor always around by the lift area? I done her each morning I visited there in March. She used to start work pretty much when it opened at 10: 30, looking through my brazilian numbers I have hers and she is very pretty for ba 85.
I think I chose almost all my BA 85 girls on the fourth floor, second to the top floor. Evelyn was a great girl with a nice attitude.

Sperto
05-16-08, 21:51
I went to Florida Stripclub at 6:30p on a Thursday night and it was totally dead, with only 2 girls and no music playing. What is a good day and time to go, where all of there girls will be working?
A good time to go is when there is foreign ships in the harbour. Florida will be crowded with girls and philippine sailors. The sailors don't seem to care about going upstairs with the girls. They just sit there drinking, smiling and looking happy.

Before entering Florida you can measure the temper by visting the "Phillipine Bar" across the street. If that bar is crowded with sailors and ho's then Florida will be good.

You can also ask some Praça Mauá GPs about the best days. They could substitute the harbour captain as they know all the ships that will arrive.

If you go there on a bad day the place will be deserted.

I usually go to Florida much later, after 10 PM.

2) For Aquarius on Rua Do Acre 61, I've heard the term Whiskeria Aquarius used and also someone on the forum mentioned Termas Aquarius being next door or something. When I went there, I went into some boite where there were about 20 girls. No changing into robes or anything. Is there a Termas Aquarius connected next door or something?
It's more than one floor. You should ask Full Throttle, he's the Whiskeria Aquarius-expert.

JohnnyBraz
05-17-08, 08:31
I think I chose almost all my BA 85 girls on the fourth floor, second to the top floor. Evelyn was a great girl with a nice attitude.I usually use the 3rd floor, the one with the pole in the middle off the sitting area. And it cost's slightly more to buy a beer on that floor. Did evelyin have a tatto on her arse, one that was scared as it had not been done with a tattoo gun, maybe a razor? A swallolen tattoo.

JohnnyBraz
05-17-08, 09:13
Update on Casas de Massagem and Termas in Centro, pricerange R$ 10-85. **********Note: An updated list of cheap Centro Casas might be very useful to many of us. I know that Christopherd, Full Throttle, Ibiza, El Austriaco, Bubba Boy and other Centro fans will help updating the list and adding new places. All of you other members who use the list, please, try also to help updating the list. Don’t be a miserable lurker that only takes and gives nothing back. OK?**********All the info and ratings are based on my experiences, in March 2008. Your experience of these casas might be totally different. In these casas the number of girls and the standard can change very quickly. Some might also close or move.I've also made a new updated Centro Map,attached.**********I rated them A, B and C. A being over average, B being average and C under average. Cabin:A= Clean cabin, big bed, new sheets, A/C and shower possibility.B= Decent cabin, small bed, A/C or ventilador.C= Fast-sex-cabin, simple, dirty, smelly and noisy. No showers.Service::A= Receives visitors in a very nice and discreet way, girls presenting themselves in pleasant way, girls doing their best in the sex-act. Allows multiple pops.B= Receives you fairly well. Girls giving a good service.C= Girls lined up. Girls might be ignorant or having a bad attitude. Take a pick, fuck and leave.Standard (on the girls):A= Better than average, sometimes with some stunners. B= Average standard. C= Low end. Majority ugly with few exceptions. Number:The number of girls available. This number depends on the day of the week and the time you go there. WV (Worth a Visit):A= Definitely worth a visit. A very good chance of finding a nice girl.B= Worth a visit if you have plenty of time. Don't have to high expectations. Might find something you’ll like.C= Not worth a visit. Very small chances of finding a nice girl.Rec (Recommended):Girls whose performances were good and deserves special recommendations. **********Casas de Massagem and Termas, R$ 10-85.1. Avenida Rio Branco 156, Edificio Central:- Apto 3320: Cabin=A, Service=A, Standard=A, Number=15, WV=AR$ 85/40 min, R$ 100/60 minRec: Poliana (18 y, incredible), Erika (19 y, wonderful). Alessandra (21 y, very sweet)- Apto 2622 (old 3330): Cabin=A, Service=A, Standard=A, Number=8, WV=AR$ 65/40 min, R$ 85/60 minRec: Paola (23 y, big tits), Luisa (20 y, big tits), Graciella (24 y, mulatta)- Apto 2114: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=4, WV=BR$ 65/30 min, R$ 85/60 min, R$ 95/dupla 30 min, R$ 125/dupla 60 min- Apto 1839: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=C, Number=3, WV=BR$ 60/30 min, R$ 80/60 min- Apto 1703 (old 1706): Cabin=A, Service=A, Standard=A, Number=11, WV=AR$ 60/30 min, R$ 80/40 min, R$ 80/60 min2. Avenida Rio Branco 185:- Apto 2114: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=13, WV=B R$ 60/30 min, R$ 80/60 min - Apto 1829: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=4, WV=C R$ 50/30 min, R$ 70/60 min3. Avenida Rio Branco 181:- Apto 1506: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=6, WV=BR$ 60/30 min, R$ 90/60 min - Apto 210: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=C, Number=4, WV=CR$ 50/30 min, R$ 70/60 min4. Rua México 148:- Apto 804: Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=C, Number=3, WV=CR$ 60/30 min, R$ 70/40 min, R$ 100/60 min5. Rua Almirante Barroso 6:- Apto 305: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=C, Number=4, WV=B R$ 70/40 min, R$ 100/60 min6. Rua Santa Lucia 405:- Apto 429: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=C, Number=C; WV=CR$ 30/1 pop no time7. Rua da Carioca 59: 3 floors, 5 casas. Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=C, Number=20, WV=BR$ 1/minRec: Crystal (20 y, big tits), Viviane (20 y, big tits)8. Rua da Carioca 40: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=15, WV=BR$ 15/10 min, R$ 30/20 min, R$ 40/30 min 9. Rua Uruguaiana 24: Several floors. Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=C, Number=20, WV=CR$ 15/10 min, R$ 20/20 min, R$ 30/20 min10. Rua do Ouvidor 130:- Apto 911: Cabin=B, Service=C, Standard=C, Number=3, WV=CR$ 20/20 min, R$ 30/30 min- Apto 707: Cabin=B, Service=A, Standard=B, Number=6, WV=A R$ 20/1 pop no timeRec: Kelly (20 y, wonderful), Juliana (21 y, beautiful)11. Rua Buenos Aires 85: 5 floors. Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=35, WV=AR$ 1/min Rec: Evelyn (19 y, beautiful), Melissa (18 y, morena), Michelle (24 y, hot mulatta), Milena (19 y, big tits, mulatta)12. Rua Buenos Aires 93:- Apto 513: Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=C, Number=3, WV=C R$ 70/30 min, R$ 90/60 min13. Rua Buenos Aires 113: Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=C, Number=20, WV=CR$ 1/min14. Travessa do Ouvidor 37: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=20, WV=BEntrada=R$, R$ 30/20 min, R$ 50/30 min, R$ 70/40 min15. Rua da Quitanda 81 (Club Gatinha): Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=20, WV=B Entrada=R$ 10, R$ 70/30 min, R$ 110/60 min16. Avenida Presidente Vargas 633:- Apto 1608: Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=C, Number=3, WV=CR$ 10/10 min, R$ 20/20 min, R$ 30/30 min- Apto 417: Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=B, Number=6, WV=CR$ 15/10 min, R$ 20/20 min, R$ 40/30 min17. Avenida Presidente Vargas 590:- Apto 1005: Cabin=A, Service=A, Standard=B, Number=2, WV=BR$ 40/30 min, R$ 60/60 min Rec: Adriana (29 y, big tits)18. Rua Conceicao 116: Cabin=C, Service=B, Standard=C, Number=15, WV=CR$ 30/30 min, R$ 50/40 min, R$ 70/60 min19. Rua do Acre 120: Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=B, Number=4, WV=BR$ 15/10 min, R$ 20/20 min, R$ 30/30 minRec: Veronica (25 y, big ass, big tits)20. Rua Leandro Martins 3: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=C, Number=9, WV=CR$ 20/20 min, R$ 30/30 min21. Rua Leandro Martins 5: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=15, WV=BR$ 15/15 min, R$ 20/20 min, R$ 30/30 min22. Rua do Acre 61 (Whiskeria Aquarius): Number=20, WV=BR$ 70/20 min, R$ 90/30 min, R$ 110/40 min, R$ 130/60 min. (Cheaper before 4PM).23. Praca Mauá, Florida: Stripclub with cabins. Cabin=A, Service=A, Standard=A, Number=15, WV=AEntrada=R$ 10, R$ 65/30 min, R$ 110/60 min. 24. Praca Mauá, Escandinavia: Stripclub. WV=B*********** Vila Mimosa: 72 casas.Cabin=B and C, Service=C (some B), Standard=C, Number=roughly 1500, counting all shifts and weekendworkers. WV=AGems to be found.R$ 25/30 min, R$ 1/condomSome casas with better cabins will cost you R$ 2 more.Hotel Canário (motel)=R$ 25/4 hs. Girl will charge you R$ 40-60/2 hs at Canário.**********It's very annoying visiting addresses where the casa has moved, closed or the address doesn't even exist. It can cause quite embarrassing situations when you knock on a door expecting to find a casa de massagem and it turns out to be a lawyers office or a dental clinic.I've made a list of addresses of casas, that has been earlier reported on this forum as casas de massagem, which has now moved, closed or never existed. At least that was the case when I passed by.Not working addresses:* Avenida Rio Branco 156, Edificio Central:- Apto 1833: Doesn’t exist.- Apto 1829: Doesn’t exist.- Apto 1825: Closed. - Apto 1706: Moved to 1703.* Avenida Presidente Vargas 590:- Apto 1317: Closed.* Avenida Presidente Vargas 633:- Apto 1307: Closed.- Apto 1408: Closed.* Rua 13 de Maio 47:- Apto 1413: Doesn’t exist.- Apto 2408: Closed.* Rua Evaristo Veiga 47:- Apto 501: Closed.- Apto 502: Closed.- Apto 701: Closed.- Apto702: Closed.* Rua Marechal Floriano 1:Closed.* Rua Uruguaiana 145: Closed.**********I have made a new updated Centro map. Because of the size limit for posting pictures/JPG is 640x480 I couldn't do the map in JPG-format. I did it in PDF-format. Unfortunately the size limit for posting PDF is 390,6 kb. Because of this the map is a little bit blurry.**********As I earlier posted various maps in this forum it can be a bit confusing which map that's the latest and most updated one. Because of this I also attach the most updated Vila Mimosa and Copacabana maps in this report.**********Attached:- Sperto, Centro, Map, Updated March 2008- Sperto, Vila Mimosa, Directions, Map, PDF- Sperto, Vila Mimosa, Directions, Map, JPG- Sperto, Vila Mimosa, Detailed Alleys, MAP- Sperto, Copacabana, Map, PDF**********Finally, as I said in the beginning: all info and ratings are based on MY experiences, in March 2008. Things changes very quickly. Your experience of these casas might be totally different. This list is just meant to be a help in your exploring of Centro. Hopefully you can add many more places.CheersSpertoP.S THE CENTRO MAP IS THE FIRST ATTACHED PDF-FILE!The one named "Sperto, Centro, Map, Updated March 2008.pdf".The other four maps are the latest versions of my other maps, already posted before.Sperto,

Thanks for your great efforts to keep us all informed on centro and vm. On my last trip I never took my lap top with me, and all I new was ba 85, uraguaina 24 and also 4x4 and cuncun in centro. I had some great times in centro, I found the women at ba 85 to be better and more fun (and alot cheaper) than the women at ta and mp. Same quality. I spent a full week in ba 85, all the women new me, the people who run it new me and it was cool, quite a few women wanted to meet me after work, one asked if she could leave early to come to copa with me, they let her. But that turned into a nightmare, but it's another story. Because ba opens at 10: 30 I would go there check it out do a women then head to 4x4, then back to ba. And on the way back to carioca metro always check out uraguianna 24 (what a dump. But I still fucked 2 women in there, standing up.) I am presently planing my next trip, around August it was going to be for 2 to 3 weeks, but have decided it will be for 4 to 5 weeks as I want to explore all off the termas /real min spinners on your list.

Sperto
05-17-08, 19:04
I usually use the 3rd floor, the one with the pole in the middle off the sitting area. And it cost's slightly more to buy a beer on that floor. Did evelyin have a tatto on her arse, one that was scared as it had not been done with a tattoo gun, maybe a razor? A swallolen tattoo.
She had a couple of butterflies tattooed on her arse (almost like they were flying out of her second hole). More tattoos on her ankles. Waistlong hair, 19 years, small firm tits and a big smile.

ADDING: She's now in the Photo section.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=95588

Fitnfun
05-18-08, 03:41
Hi,

Thanks all for the great information.

I will be in Rio next week, I was wondering , what is the best time to go to the termas ?

1 weekdays
2 weekends
3 in centro
4 in a place like 4x4

From what I gather , some of these are dead at the wrong time or are filled with too many men at others

What is a good balance?

Thanks, and I will post my report once I have done my mongering,

Euro100
05-18-08, 05:08
Sperto,

Excellent Centro update!!! Bubba Boy already put your report into ROD; otherwise I would have done it. In a few weeks I am in Rio again, and your report and maps will be printouts in my back pockets. A big thank you!

euro

Azn Safado
05-18-08, 05:29
So I was at Solarium last Monday and sessioned with this one girl. In the cabine, I asked her how much to come to my apartment. She said 300R for 2 hours and 700R for TLN. I laughed it off and got her number anyway.

So tonight, which is Saturday she comes to my apartment. I figured she was trying to high-ball me at the Terma. So we negotiate and the she sticks to her guns of 300R for 2 hours. She said she'll go 200R for 1 hour and said if I didn't want it, I could go find a Help girl. She also added that someone gave her 1500R for TLN the other night. I said "Well, you hit the lottery sweetheart. You should marry that idiot tourist. I'm not stupid, it's idiots like him that drive up the market". So I was looking for 100R for one hour or 250R TLN. I've gotten that from Luomo/MC girls before. So neither of us budged and called it a night. She was cool about everything, didn't throw any kind of tantrum like most Brasilerias would. I gave her 15R for a cab and said boa noite.

Anybody ever have that happen to them with a Terma girl? Where she just would not budge on price and you sent her packing?

JohnnyBraz
05-18-08, 08:41
So I was at Solarium last Monday and sessioned with this one girl. In the cabine, I asked her how much to come to my apartment. She said 300R for 2 hours and 700R for TLN. I laughed it off and got her number anyway.

So tonight, which is Saturday she comes to my apartment. I figured she was trying to high-ball me at the Terma. So we negotiate and the she sticks to her guns of 300R for 2 hours. She said she'll go 200R for 1 hour and said if I didn't want it, I could go find a Help girl. She also added that someone gave her 1500R for TLN the other night. I said "Well, you hit the lottery sweetheart. You should marry that idiot tourist. I'm not stupid, it's idiots like him that drive up the market". So I was looking for 100R for one hour or 250R TLN. I've gotten that from Luomo/MC girls before. So neither of us budged and called it a night. She was cool about everything, didn't throw any kind of tantrum like most Brasilerias would. I gave her 15R for a cab and said boa noite.

Anybody ever have that happen to them with a Terma girl? Where she just would not budge on price and you sent her packing?1500R for tln in Rio, must be italian. Some how I find that ridiculas as it works out more expensive than the terma. Must have been bareback full sex.

Wandering Fool
05-18-08, 15:15
Reading your comparison I pretty much agree with your assessment.

I spend quite a bit of time in all 3 countries.

Colombia ... best chicas to fall in love with.

Brazil ... best to have wild and passionate sex.

Argentina ... like you said, nice, inexpensive, DAYTIME fun. I agree also, my favorite chica in BA is from Paraguay.

Good luck !!


This is very interesting as several people seemed to echo the same sentiment. I realize we are dealing with wide sweeping generalizations here but I've found Columbians to be a little less fun loving than the Brazilians. My experience with non pros is they tend to have a little more of the "I cut you with my knife" thing going. Their country has endured great hardship and cruelty, kidnappings etc and the personalities seem to reflect that with a certain seriousness. The brazilians seem more light hearted and fun loving.

I've been to Brazil, Argentina but not Columbia. I've seen many Columbian and brazilian pros here in the US as well as dated many non pros from all three countries.

So what I'm asking is, why are people feeling that Columbians are the better girlfriends, better looking etc?

Azn Safado
05-18-08, 17:30
This is very interesting as several people seemed to echo the same sentiment. I realize we are dealing with wide sweeping generalizations here but I've found Columbians to be a little less fun loving than the Brazilians. My experience with non pros is they tend to have a little more of the "I cut you with my knife" thing going. Their country has endured great hardship and cruelty, kidnappings etc and the personalities seem to reflect that with a certain seriousness. The brazilians seem more light hearted and fun loving.

I've been to Brazil, Argentina but not Columbia. I've seen many Columbian and brazilian pros here in the US as well as dated many non pros from all three countries.

So what I'm asking is, why are people feeling that Columbians are the better girlfriends, better looking etc?I can't really speak about Colombianas being better girlfriends. I went out with the same Pro for the week I was there and she was cool, but not that much different from any other Pro as far as personality and greed for money goes. I also went out with a non-pro Colombiana. She was beautiful but a bit on the reserved side. Needless to say, I didn't get in her pants in the 2 days I knew her.

As for looks, I think the Colombians have the prettiest faces of all the 3 countries I visited. Unfortunately, a lot of the pro's have breast implants, which I hate. I prefer the all natural body of Brasileiras anyway. With that being said, I have been hanging in Centro as of late and just seeing the women in their business suits walking around and on the subway, there are some drop dead gorgeous Brasileiras around too. So my opinion is starting to sway a bit on who has the prettier women. I guess percentage-wise, maybe Colombia still.

Wild Cherokee
05-18-08, 19:39
Gentlemen,

I've been contemplating whether or not to create an MS Excel spreadsheet with all of the termas listed (in rows) and various columns for locations, hours, days of the week, costs, etc. so that the user can sort data (termas) by street location, cheapies, hours, etc. I envision that it could be a great resource when planning daily adventures. Has anyone done this yet? If I were to create something like this (with the input of board members of course) , how many would actually find it useful? Just curious.

Regards,
WC

Mario Veneto
05-18-08, 20:01
Gentlemen,

I've been contemplating whether or not to create an MS Excel spreadsheet with all of the termas listed (in rows) and various columns for locations, hours, days of the week, costs, etc. so that the user can sort data (termas) by street location, cheapies, hours, etc. I envision that it could be a great resource when planning daily adventures. Has anyone done this yet? If I were to create something like this (with the input of board members of course) , how many would actually find it useful? Just curious.

Regards,
WC

Hi WC,
that's an excellent idea !
I just came back from Rio and could give you some input regarding the folowing termas: Monte Carlo, 4 por 4, Solarium, l'Uomo.

As you might know termas have different policies for their entrance: free if you hv been in the room 3 times, or if you have spent more than 700 R$ during your last visit. Solarium and l'uomo use finger print database to identify their customers.

Mangera
05-18-08, 20:25
Hi WC,
that's an excellent idea !
I just came back from Rio and could give you some input regarding the folowing termas: Monte Carlo, 4 por 4, Solarium, l'Uomo.

Solarium and l'uomo use finger print database to identify their customers.
Finger printing? What the hell does that mean? You have got to be kidding me. Even though I may value Termas more than the Pentagon, I certainly do not think it would be wise for them to use this method.

Whats next, dipping your nut sack on the tray with the ink sponge and setting them down on the center of a sheet of paper.

Exec Talent
05-18-08, 21:23
Finger printing? What the hell does that mean? You have got to be kidding me. Even though I may value Termas more than the Pentagon, I certainly do not think it would be wise for them to use this method.

Whats next, dipping your nut sack on the tray with the ink sponge and setting them down on the center of a sheet of paper.

They have a PC based system and it identifies you when you put your finger onto a touch device. Just give them a fake name for the system like I did. They system tracks how much you spend and when you get to R$500 (which doesn't take long these days), you get a free entrance.

Candidly, I worry much more about the false comfort level people get when they see Hugo's Bar on the L'uomo charge receipt and when they go to their online statement and it identifies it as a termas L'uomo. All one has to do is Google termas.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Termas

Benjoe
05-18-08, 21:50
They have a PC based system and it identifies you when you put your finger onto a touch device. Just give them a fake name for the system like I did. They system tracks how much you spend and when you get to R$500 (which doesn't take long these days), you get a free entrance.

Candidly, I worry much more about the false comfort level people get when they see Hugo's Bar on the L'uomo charge receipt and when they go to their online statement and it identifies it as a termas L'uomo. All one has to do is Google termas.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Termas
It's up to 700R for a free ingresso now.

Mario Veneto
05-18-08, 22:01
Finger printing? What the hell does that mean? You have got to be kidding me. Even though I may value Termas more than the Pentagon, I certainly do not think it would be wise for them to use this method.

Whats next, dipping your nut sack on the tray with the ink sponge and setting them down on the center of a sheet of paper.


No I am serious ! They have a finger print digitizer (like the US customs) to check your index finger print and see if you have already been there and if yes how much did you spend the last time. If you have spent more than a certain amount then you get free entrance. I guess this is not mandatory and you can refuse getting in their database but then you won't get your free entrance.

Wandering Fool
05-18-08, 22:23
No I am serious ! They have a finger print digitizer (like the US customs) to check your index finger print and see if you have already been there and if yes how much did you spend the last time. If you have spent more than a certain amount then you get free entrance. I guess this is not mandatory and you can refuse getting in their database but then you won't get your free entrance.

Man, this just seems like it's asking for trouble. I mean, your fingerprint is a completely unique identifier and once they have that, you are officially on record as a visitor there. That is way too incrminating!

I realize it seems safe and isloated right now, but the world is fast becoming a very small place. That info could be hacked, sold, or in some other way leaked onto the internet (even by some pissed off GDP), and with everything now moving towards fingerprinting machines (airports, banks etc) your fp is going to end up in other places soon enough. It's just a matter of cross referencing to nail your ass to that terma on various dates.

Don't you think customs would love that info so they know who is entering the country for mongering? As soon as a termas gets busted now any official in Brazil (customs, police etc) has access to those prints.

Mangera
05-18-08, 23:56
No I am serious ! They have a finger print digitizer (like the US customs) to check your index finger print and see if you have already been there and if yes how much did you spend the last time. If you have spent more than a certain amount then you get free entrance. I guess this is not mandatory and you can refuse getting in their database but then you won't get your free entrance.

I will be arriving in Rio in a couple of weeks and I will be looking into this matter. I go to Termas with much less frequency now than in the past, but even so, I tend to agree with Wondering Fool comments on the subject.

I am not married, and prostitution is legal in Brasil, so its not that big of a deal, yet it can have some possible consequences down the line. Now I am beginning to wonder if any other Termas such as Sol., 4 x 4, MC, and Cent. will follow the lead from Luomo's.

Ex. Talent.........I think your strategy of given a false name will work only if you pay in cash, because if credit card is used........that pretty much gives you away.

Wanderer1000
05-19-08, 00:11
I've always paid cash at the termas, because I don't want any electronic record that can trace me there. It's just a precaution - you never know. I don't know about video cameras in the termas, at reception, etc., but I do what I can to control any record of my being there.

If a fingerprint was required of me, I'd leave. I think there'd be a lot of guys who would say no way to this. It would have to be offered as an option only, or I would think they'd be losing business.

Johnath12
05-19-08, 00:31
Whats next, dipping your nut sack on the tray with the ink sponge and setting them down on the center of a sheet of paper.LOL, fucking funny:)

Exec Talent
05-19-08, 02:18
I've always paid cash at the termas, because I don't want any electronic record that can trace me there. It's just a precaution - you never know. I don't know about video cameras in the termas, at reception, etc., but I do what I can to control any record of my being there.

If a fingerprint was required of me, I'd leave. I think there'd be a lot of guys who would say no way to this. It would have to be offered as an option only, or I would think they'd be losing business.

It is totally optional at Monte Carlo and Solarium. If you want to join the frequent visitors program, then that is how they keep track of the money you have spent.

Poucolouco
05-19-08, 03:11
i've always paid cash at the termas, because i don't want any electronic record that can trace me there. it's just a precaution - you never know. i don't know about video cameras in the termas, at reception, etc., but i do what i can to control any record of my being there.

if a fingerprint was required of me, i'd leave. i think there'd be a lot of guys who would say no way to this. it would have to be offered as an option only, or i would think they'd be losing business.i chuckle at the irony of this concern. in today's society we live under the suspicious eyes of the government. our bodies are transparent. anyone who has served in the military has had to provide fingerprints. anyone who has held a government security clearance has had to provide fingerprints. sometimes immigration clearance requires fingerprints. sometimes fingerprints are requires to cash checks. fast-pass applications to speed up airline screening now require iris matching. biometric data will increase in the future.

people are concerned about computer recording of their fingerprint in a terma. hey, what about the dna in 2. 5 ml of ejaculate in the condom they leave behind? i guess guys will now start pocketing their evidence to discard later.

Azn Safado
05-19-08, 05:51
It is totally optional at Monte Carlo and Solarium. If you want to join the frequent visitors program, then that is how they keep track of the money you have spent.I was at Solarium today and asked them about this frequent visitor's program. They said it was only for BRAZILIAN LOCALS, ie, they don't even let turistas use this program, so relax everyone.

Wild Cherokee
05-19-08, 11:52
Hey, what about the DNA in 2. 5 Ml of ejaculate in the condom they leave behind? I guess guys will now start pocketing their evidence to discard later.

While many may dismiss this, it is actually an excellent point to ponder. Does anyone else hear the Rockwell music playing in the background?

WC

Lorenzo
05-19-08, 17:21
My, but you guys are paranoid. I suggest everyone lighten up. Unless you're an elder in a fundamentalist church, who cares if people find out that you visited a brothel in Rio? Why do people think you go to Rio in the first place, to visit the Jardim Botanico? These days visiting a termas wouldn't even disqualify you from getting elected to public office!

Exec Talent
05-19-08, 21:42
I was at Solarium today and asked them about this frequent visitor's program. They said it was only for BRAZILIAN LOCALS, ie, they don't even let turistas use this program, so relax everyone.

I am not a Brazilian. I make frequent and extended visits, but I am not local. I use the system.

George90
05-19-08, 23:30
My, but you guys are paranoid. I suggest everyone lighten up. Unless you're an elder in a fundamentalist church, who cares if people find out that you visited a brothel in Rio?

The feminazis care!!!! There are now more legal hurdles for US men to meeting and marrying foreign women using agencies. They are working on getting legal barriers to US men meeting foriegn women for sex. You should check out the Tahirih Justice Center website. Facism is alive and well!

The Watcher
05-20-08, 03:45
I was at Solarium today and asked them about this frequent visitor's program. They said it was only for BRAZILIAN LOCALS, ie, they don't even let turistas use this program, so relax everyone.

I would like to agree with Exec Talent on this matter but with respect to Monte Carlo. I am not a Brazilian and I go to Rio three, four or five times a year. I was offered the opportunity to participate in the fingerprint program but I declined. I may have been made that offer because they know me and know that I am always there a couple of times a year. In other words, maybe my frequent visits qualify me (as well as Exec Talent) for Brazilian Local status.

One Eyed Man
05-20-08, 03:58
I have been hanging in Centro as of late and just seeing the women in their business suits walking around and on the subway, there are some drop dead gorgeous Brasileiras around too.

I wholeheartedly agree. You see the prettiest girls--far cuter than any beach babes or Therma girls--walking around at Centro at rush hour. Where are they all going? I'm making it my mission to find out...

Rio Bob
05-20-08, 13:32
I wholeheartedly agree. You see the prettiest girls--far cuter than any beach babes or Therma girls--walking around at Centro at rush hour. Where are they all going? I'm making it my mission to find out...

Well one place you might find them is in Centro bars and clubs after work. I have been to Symbol which is very popular full of young professional women who work in the area. Another place that I have not been to is Nuth in centro which only opened up recently.

Off Road
05-20-08, 13:42
Equipe 1 acadamy REQUIRES your fingerprint, and photo to match, to join and enter. I also belong at MC. I am not worried about anyone knowing I went in these places. Banks and other security aware industries are requiring more than one form of authentication to access information. And more in the futire, for example Bradesco here now requires your PIN and a secret code that changes day to day on a separate card, to access your money, a bit more advanced than the states in this regard (they issue a callenge number and you have the rersponse code to get through). So I wonder the value of them sharing a digital form of your fingerprint for fraud at this point.

Bravo
05-21-08, 01:09
I saw crazy ass Flavia last week (the half japonese/half bahia Help Girl) She was walking around Meia Pataca with her teenage daughter on saturday!! I always thought her daughter live din bahia, so she must have came down to visit. The daughter is a serious cutie and I was thinking for a second that i might finally be able to live out my last sexual taboo. A hot mother/daughter combination!!! (I have been trying to accomplish that one for the past 10 years but I havent found that combo in Brazil yet)

Fortunately or unfortunately, however you want to look at it, her daughter was only around, to hang with mom for a few days. (Although I did find it a bit odd that Flavia took her to MP and introuced her to the other GDPs and a few Americans.

Poucolouco
05-21-08, 01:39
I saw crazy ass Flavia last week (the half japonese/half bahia Help Girl) She was walking around Meia Pataca with her teenage daughter on saturday!! and I was thinking for a second that i might finally be able to live out my last sexual taboo. A hot mother/daughter combination!!! (I have been trying to accomplish that one for the past 10 years but I havent found that combo in Brazil yet)

Ha ha! Do you suppose you should nominate this one as an addition to the Acronyms List, MDILF?

Azn Safado
05-21-08, 02:54
I would like to agree with Exec Talent on this matter but with respect to Monte Carlo. I am not a Brazilian and I go to Rio three, four or five times a year. I was offered the opportunity to participate in the fingerprint program but I declined. I may have been made that offer because they know me and know that I am always there a couple of times a year. In other words, maybe my frequent visits qualify me (as well as Exec Talent) for Brazilian Local status.Well, I stand corrected then. I guess the receptionist at Solarium figured me for a one-trip wonder, so she gave me that blow-off answer.

Rio Bob
05-21-08, 13:18
I saw crazy ass Flavia last week (the half japonese/half bahia Help Girl) She was walking around Meia Pataca with her teenage daughter on saturday!! I
Fortunately or unfortunately, however you want to look at it, her daughter was only around, to hang with mom for a few days. (Although I did find it a bit odd that Flavia took her to MP and introuced her to the other GDPs and a few Americans.

I guess it was like a: Take your daughter to work day.

I have seen this before several times and spoke about it with them. The way they look at it is that it clothes them and puts food on the table so it's acceptable work unlike here in the US.

Funny that you say she is half Japanese, I only met her once this past February for the first time, I thought she was more Indigenous. But this clears something up for me because I have had in the past a discussion with a member on this board about a Japanese GDP from Help who I knew years ago, she doesn't go there anymore, she used to dress up like a cheerleader and spoke perfect English, I don't remember her name. Well anyway this member thought I was talking about this Flavia here and I always had to scratch my head every time he said that I knew Flavia and I never met her, it was another GDP.

Jimmy Boy 99
05-22-08, 06:04
I was at Solarium today and asked them about this frequent visitor's program. They said it was only for BRAZILIAN LOCALS, ie, they don't even let turistas use this program, so relax everyone.

They lied to you for some reason. I am a member of both the Solarium and Monte Carlo programs and I am certainly no local, although I have been going there twice a year for several years. Try again and tell them that you know Americans who are members and don't live there.

Azn Safado
05-23-08, 05:51
So I was at Solarium last Monday and sessioned with this one girl. In the cabine, I asked her how much to come to my apartment. She said 300R for 2 hours and 700R for TLN. I laughed it off and got her number anyway.

So tonight, which is Saturday she comes to my apartment. I figured she was trying to high-ball me at the Terma. So we negotiate and the she sticks to her guns of 300R for 2 hours. She said she'll go 200R for 1 hour and said if I didn't want it, I could go find a Help girl. She also added that someone gave her 1500R for TLN the other night. I said "Well, you hit the lottery sweetheart. You should marry that idiot tourist. I'm not stupid, it's idiots like him that drive up the market". So I was looking for 100R for one hour or 250R TLN. I've gotten that from Luomo/MC girls before. So neither of us budged and called it a night. She was cool about everything, didn't throw any kind of tantrum like most Brasilerias would. I gave her 15R for a cab and said boa noite.

Anybody ever have that happen to them with a Terma girl? Where she just would not budge on price and you sent her packing?I guess the story above didn't quite end after I sent this terma girl packing last week. This same Solarium girl had been texting me all week, so I decided to have one more session with her in the cabine at her work. This session occurred this past Monday, which was "free cabine night for the first session" with a coupon I got from the Solarium website.

Today is Thursday and it is Corpus Christi holiday, which means practically every terma is closed except for Luomo. So I texted this girl to see if she wants to come over to my apartment so we can go out to dinner. She agrees and decides she doesn't want to go to a restaurant. We end up ordering in and ate Chinese food in front of the TV.

After we eat, we lay in bed for a bit and then start kissing and then this led to sex. After the sex, she then fell asleep for 2 hours, wakes up and says she has to go home and sleep. I walk her out and of course I'm waiting for the old "you owe me 200R" or some crap like that. It never happens. So I put her in a cab and say boa noite. It's always nice to get a freebie every once in awhile! (Well, technically I bought her dinner for 26R but still.)

Rss910
05-23-08, 22:52
I saw crazy ass Flavia last week (the half japonese/half bahia Help Girl) She was walking around Meia Pataca with her teenage daughter on saturday!! That girl is crazy. Always trying to raw dog somebody. I never went with her but two of my colleagues did. Crazy, but fun and nice.

Ken_Apples
05-24-08, 00:00
I guess the story above didn't quite end after I sent this terma girl packing last week. This same Solarium girl had been texting me all week, so I decided to have one more session with her in the cabine at her work. This session occurred this past Monday, which was "free cabine night for the first session" with a coupon I got from the Solarium website.

Today is Thursday and it is Corpus Christi holiday, which means practically every terma is closed except for Luomo. So I texted this girl to see if she wants to come over to my apartment so we can go out to dinner. She agrees and decides she doesn't want to go to a restaurant. We end up ordering in and ate Chinese food in front of the TV.

After we eat, we lay in bed for a bit and then start kissing and then this led to sex. After the sex, she then fell asleep for 2 hours, wakes up and says she has to go home and sleep. I walk her out and of course I'm waiting for the old "you owe me 200R" or some crap like that. It never happens. So I put her in a cab and say boa noite. It's always nice to get a freebie every once in awhile! (Well, technically I bought her dinner for 26R but still.)

The above posting is a good example on how to not be played by the girls, but instead play them in your favour.

First, If you have time, you can pull this off:
Be nice, be persistent and don't bulge to their $$$ demand. Just turn down the offer in a nice way and find someone else you like for the moment.

Secondly, after all: Girls will be girls, and if she find you to be a good guy, chances are that she will stay with you for free - just like in Azn Safados case. If she continue to give you the "cold heart" after some atemps to melt her ice, then you don't want to end up in the bed with her anyway - so you will always come out as the winner as long as you don't let yourself be provoked or played.

Third and final:Remember, We are the guys with cash and options, and they are the one that need this work for a living. They need us more than we need them. As long as you send out that confidence, no girl will have power over you. And you will also score freebees, just like Azn Safado did.

Happy hunting, Ken Apples

Azn Safado
05-24-08, 00:31
The above posting is a good example on how to not be played by the girls, but instead play them in your favour.

First, If you have time, you can pull this off:

Be nice, be persistent and don't bulge to their $$$ demand. Just turn down the offer in a nice way and find someone else you like for the moment.

Secondly, after all: Girls will be girls, and if she find you to be a good guy, chances are that she will stay with you for free - just like in Azn Safados case. If she continue to give you the "cold heart" after some atemps to melt her ice, then you don't want to end up in the bed with her anyway - so you will always come out as the winner as long as you don't let yourself be provoked or played.

Third and final:Remember, We are the guys with cash and options, and they are the one that need this work for a living. They need us more than we need them. As long as you send out that confidence, no girl will have power over you. And you will also score freebees, just like Azn Safado did.

Happy hunting, Ken Applesery well said Ken,

Thanks

Chris H
05-24-08, 23:40
That girl is crazy. Always trying to raw dog somebody. I never went with her but two of my colleagues did. Crazy, but fun and nice.

You are correct...she is always attemping to get some raw dog sex.

Bravo
05-25-08, 00:44
You are correct...she is always attemping to get some raw dog sex.

She told me I was the only one!!!! Damn!!!!!

Junior
05-25-08, 07:01
I am planning a trip to rio in dec. I have a few questions to ask the room.

1. Would you recomend getting a room for a week or renting a apartment?

2. How easy is it to find lets say the other pleasures of a south american country i.e the white or green (carlos escobar)? I dont want to get robbed going into the ghetto i have heard brazil is a dangerous place.

3. What is the most i should pay for tln?

4. What is a good amount of money to bring for the week? Girls and party favors included.

5. Would you recomend renting a car or using taxis?

Thanks for the help guys


1: On my first trips I used hotels, but now I rent an apartment. If you are new to Rio go for a hotel, if you are experienced apartments are a better deal.

2: Not my thing, but it is widely available. try the beach vendors during the day.

3: I have paid anywhere from R200-1000 - it depends very much on the girl you want. What is the normal rate? Does she have to skip work at the terma? Does she want to be with you? etc....

4: There more money, there more fun. It really depends on what kind of holiday you want. Are you happy with girls from Mabs, TA, VM or similar and cheap food or do you prefer to spend all your time at Centaurus and eat at the high end restaurants every night?
I go for the latter option and spend app. us$3-5000 a week.

5: Use taxis and metro. Only rent a car if you plan to take a trip outside the city.

Junior

The Watcher
05-25-08, 07:18
2: Not my thing, but it is widely available. try the beach vendors during the day.


This is not my thing either; however, trying a beach vendor is very risky. I personally know someone who used a beach vendor and the police were after him within a few hours. Fortunately, he avoided arrest. He was lucky - you might not be.

Sperto
05-25-08, 08:02
2. How easy is it to find lets say the other pleasures of a south american country i.e the white or green (carlos escobar)? I dont want to get robbed going into the ghetto i have heard brazil is a dangerous place.
2. My only drugs are beer and women, other drugs are for losers. Anyway, I'm sure there will be plenty of people eager to "help" you buying drugs. Try the beach-vendors, GPs, the hippies etc. All of them eager to rip you off.

4. What is a good amount of money to bring for the week? Girls and party favors included.
Don't forget to bring a big amount of extra money so you you can pay of the cops after they catch you buying drugs. The sellers might just set you up.

Sprite13
05-25-08, 08:57
Which termas are open on saturdays and sundays? I'lll be arriving in Rio a Saturday and I'd want to know my options.

Thanks.

Junior
05-25-08, 10:14
Which termas are open on saturdays and sundays? I'lll be arriving in Rio a Saturday and I'd want to know my options.

Thanks.

Saturday: All in Zona Sul + solarium
Sunday: Luomo, Solarium, Monte Carlo(??)

Junior

George90
05-25-08, 19:15
Regarding the post that ThaCTJohn made about his upcoming trip, is anyone else suspicious of it? I am sort of paranoid. I see ulterior motives when people ask for advice in committing crimes.

ThaCTJohn has made the identical posts in the Dominican Republic and Costa Rica threads. (No responses yet.) I wonder if he is phishing for a patsy. I say that because this tactic is frequently used by law enforcement to entrap innocent citizens. Undercover cops will ask a passerby where they can buy an illegal drug. When the person answers that drugs are available in some park or on some corner a block away, that person is arrested for sending customers to those drug dealers.

I suspect that something similar is behind ThaCTJohn's posts. It is an attempt to identify posters who know about buying illegal drugs in Rio. Given that we are mongerers, not drug addicts, I feel posts about illegal drugs should be banned. Until then, we should not respond to such bait.

Chi Town Hustler
05-25-08, 19:18
She told me I was the only one!!!! Damn!!!!!Don't Understand The Way You Think
Saying That Skeezer is Yours Not Mine
Sending Roses And Your Silly Dreams
Really Just A Waste Of Time


Because the Skeezer is Mine
The Doggone Skeezer Is Mine
Don't Waste Your Time
Because The Skeezer Is Mine

Chi Town Hustler
05-25-08, 19:40
That girl is crazy. Always trying to raw dog somebody. I never went with her but two of my colleagues did. Crazy, but fun and nice.Not only does she raw dog but she takes [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in the mouth and eat the azz she is just NASTY.

If anyone likes getting drunk and want one of the nastiest, craziest Skeezer on Ground Zero this is the girl.

She really likes getting Nasty and don't have any shame this what makes her fun but try switching her the next day then Crazy Flavia her split personality will appear.

Poucolouco
05-25-08, 20:37
Regarding the post that ThaCTJohn made about his upcoming trip, is anyone else suspicious of it? I am sort of paranoid. I see ulterior motives when people ask for advice in committing crimes.

ThaCTJohn has made the identical posts in the Dominican Republic and Costa Rica threads. (No responses yet.) I wonder if he is phishing for a patsy. I say that because this tactic is frequently used by law enforcement to entrap innocent citizens. Undercover cops will ask a passerby where they can buy an illegal drug. When the person answers that drugs are available in some park or on some corner a block away, that person is arrested for sending customers to those drug dealers.

I suspect that something similar is behind ThaCTJohn's posts. It is an attempt to identify posters who know about buying illegal drugs in Rio. Given that we are mongerers, not drug addicts, I feel posts about illegal drugs should be banned. Until then, we should not respond to such bait.George,

You raise an interesting point. I made similar observations about THC-John but I decided to just write him off as a TROLL.

His name is a derrivation from THC (pot.) He refers to Escobar (former Medellin drug czar) for cocaine. His stupid questions are spacy.

Although he has only 22 posts, his join date is Nov 2002. He only asks questions and he never offers any information in return. I doubt if he has ever completed any of the trips he said he was planning. Based on the substance of editing his posts for over two years, the guy obviously has difficulty writing a complete sentence.

Should the board prohibit discussion of illegal drugs? In my opinion, no. Illegal drugs are just that, Banned. Dicussing drugs is not illegal any more than discussing prostitution. Those who have responded to THC-John have discouraged drug use period. I generally oppose content censure because it stifles free discussion. Besides, in this particular case it would place an undue burden on the board moderators to police it. ThC-John’s posts have been routinely monitored because he has fewer than 25 postings. Above this threshold he would not be watched so closely. This is a board for mongers not mules.

Bottom line: He’s harmless. Just ignore him

Be careful out there.

Watchman4400
05-25-08, 20:37
Men,

I was in Rio last week and after another successful night of hunting with my wingman at Help we took a cab back to the apartment. We were stopped at AR-15 gun point by the police in Brazil. The poilice made all four of us get out of the cab and he told us in broken english that he was searching for drugs. We had no so we said no problem. He searched us and let us go on our way. The only thing I could think is if I did have drugs I would be going to a Brazilian Jail and that would suck big time!

On a side note, when the police stopped us I just knew he would take all the Real we had on us. I counted it a loss but I would be happy if he did not take me to jail. He searched all my pockets and but his hand in the pocket that I was carrying about R$400 and he did not take anything. I was pleasantly suprised.

Sprite13
05-25-08, 21:01
Saturday: All in Zona Sul + solarium
Sunday: Luomo, Solarium, Monte Carlo(??)

Junior

Thanks Junior. Is 4X4 open on saturdays?

Mangera
05-25-08, 21:34
Thanks Junior. Is 4X4 open on saturdays?
Closed on Sat. and Sundays.

Euro100
05-26-08, 03:06
Regarding the post that ThaCTJohn made about his upcoming trip, is anyone else suspicious of it? I am sort of paranoid. I see ulterior motives when people ask for advice in committing crimes.

ThaCTJohn has made the identical posts in the Dominican Republic and Costa Rica threads. (No responses yet.) I wonder if he is phishing for a patsy. I say that because this tactic is frequently used by law enforcement to entrap innocent citizens. Undercover cops will ask a passerby where they can buy an illegal drug. When the person answers that drugs are available in some park or on some corner a block away, that person is arrested for sending customers to those drug dealers.

I suspect that something similar is behind ThaCTJohn's posts. It is an attempt to identify posters who know about buying illegal drugs in Rio. Given that we are mongerers, not drug addicts, I feel posts about illegal drugs should be banned. Until then, we should not respond to such bait.

I agree completely. ThaCTJohn has not made a single post with a report in in in the several years that he has lurked on this forum, and most of his posts are of the same kind. This forum is about girls, not drugs.

El Austriaco
05-26-08, 06:04
i am a 26 year old who just graduated from college looking to have a good time while on my vacation. i wrote in both forums because i am still trying to decide where to go. i dont post because i have never been out of the country. this will be my first time i am not le. they are not going through the trouble of arresting you for giving somebody info on another country, think about it. that is not economical they have budgets just like everybody else. if you feel offended by my questions i appoligize.
you've still never been out of country????? well, then rio is definitely not for you. regardless of where you are going on your first trip, trying to score drugs there would be a very stupid thing to do so (unless you are in amsterdam or another drug-friendly place, if there is some). with all the multiple problems one ultimately can't entirely avoid in rio, looking for drugs outright like you are planning is tantamount to actively looking for trouble. read up on the crime and safety section in rio, learn about the multiple setups that girls have for guys who don't even want to score drugs, the rigged shakedowns by police setting up people with drugs, read about boa noite cinderella, etc. etc. do your homework, man. read the story omegaman1993 just posted:


(...) the police made all four of us get out of the cab and he told us in broken english that he was searching for drugs. we had no so we said no problem. he searched us and let us go on our way. the only thing i could think is if i did have drugs i would be going to a brazilian jail and that would suck big time!

on a side note, when the police stopped us i just knew he would take all the real we had on us. i counted it a loss but i would be happy if he did not take me to jail. he searched all my pockets and but his hand in the pocket that i was carrying about r$400 and he did not take anything. i was pleasantly suprised.
these are routine police operations all over rio, and most of them very are conducted in a very professional manner (i have been involved in one, too, just the way you described). now, if you actually had drugs on you, i think you would be very lucky if the police officer(s) just took the r$ 400 and let you go without further ado. much more likely, corrupt cops would ask for much more. in the worst case scenario, they wouldn't be corrupt... and you'd go to jail.

are you listening, thactjohn? but hey, if you still want to go ahead with your plan, just keep in mind that it might be your first and only trip out of the country for a while, because you are running a very real risk of spending a long long time in a brazilian jail. does that fit your definition of "having a good time"? if not, stay clear of rio.

whatever you do and wherever you go, good luck.

ea

p.s.: i agree with george on this issue, and i disagree with pocoulocou. we shouldn't help people who are deliberately planning on violating the law anywhere, whether sex-related or not. people who are seeking information on prostitution in brazil are not investigating any illegal. that's different from people who are seeking information on **** sex, because they are asking for help in engaging in something that is clearly against the law, and discussing it is banned on this board. people who are seeking information on how to score weed or cocaine in brazil are also asking you to provide information on how to best commit a crime. i really don't see a difference between the last two, pocoulocou.

Poucolouco
05-26-08, 16:13
p.s.: i agree with george on this issue, and i disagree with pocoulocou. we shouldn't help people who are deliberately planning on violating the law anywhere, whether sex-related or not. people who are seeking information on prostitution in brazil are not investigating any illegal. that's different from people who are seeking information on **** sex, because they are asking for help in engaging in something that is clearly against the law, and discussing it is banned on this board. people who are seeking information on how to score weed or cocaine in brazil are also asking you to provide information on how to best commit a crime. i really don't see a difference between the last two, pocoulocou.george90's original proposal was:
i feel posts about illegal drugs should be banned. under the proposed rule, omegaman1993's post and even your post would be disallowed because they are posts about drugs. i have seen posts where someone states he "smoked a joint before sex," would this colorful language need to be censored? i am not offended by such a posting. out of curiosity, i did a board search on the word “drugs.” there were 502 postings on this word alone. weed gave me 6,068 reports.

i fully agree with you, el austriaco, that we shouldn't help people who are deliberately planning on violating the law, therefore i did not respond to thc-john.

i repeat my response for clarity. i generally oppose content censure because it stifles free discussion. besides, in this particular case it would place an undue burden on the board moderators to police it.

note, while the board currently has no rule against posts about drugs, there is a rule against proselytizing.

Craftyone
05-27-08, 02:19
It's been a while since I've posted, so here's my latest upates. Sorry for any spelling errors. Its been a long day.

The 400 club in Barra seems to have found some decent looking chics over the past few months. Would recommend Barbara (from Petropolis) or Ana Carolina (Copa) for full service in-house with no hassle and a good call-out for those swing nights.

Ancora do Recreio is looking up as well. Last year you could not have paid me to go in there but the scenery is much much nicer and tighter nowadays. They have this 6'3" (with pumps of course! ) amazon black chic that is fking smoking as well and a chic that could pass for Adrianna Sage (latino prnstar) in a heartbeat. Lotsa young chics too.

Paris Cafe is sucking big wind and I can't understand why they are soooo packed from time to time. Most of the good looking chics are gone or have moved on.

Barbarella's has always been my high end baseline to get a feel for what's hanging around that end of the city. No big whoop here though and I'm seeing that alot of drug users are getting in more than usual. The girls just don't seem to have the motivation tis time of the year or something. There is a pretty regular tight chic there that is from Vitoria (long blonde hair, smooth creamy skin, wears a dress and the club most of the time and has a very mousey voice). Damn if I can't remember her name and I've had her twice in two years.

Copa Mar hotel has been skimming some cc cards lately. Heard two stories about mongers getting hit with $5K USD or greater on their cards after visiting this love motel.

Picked up some non-pros in Shenanigans (Ipanema) during the holidays. The local chics are starting to hang out there more and the service and food is getting better.

Thinking about giving Marcella a try later this week. Anyone know about www.altonivelclub.com or if they are bait-switch, etc. Will report out on later.

Anyone have anything to say about www.barravipsrio.com as well. Thinking about giving Fernanda a try. Think I read something about her here lately.

Later. C1

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Craftyone
05-28-08, 23:20
Craftyone,

What was the name of the 6'3" Amazonian Black girl at ADR??? Thanks.Either Gisele or Gabriella. Not sure from what I can remember. My wing dude made it with her and didn't get her name/number before she walked off with someone else. Just one of those nights. She really is quite cute for ADR and I don't even think her hair (curly & long) has extensions like most of these chics wear. And damn if I can't stand fake hair.

But I can assure you that if she is there you will know. I've done quite a bit of mongering from one end of Rio to the other over the past two years and I have NEVER seen a chic that tall down here.

I'll be back Thursday nite and will try to get the lowdown.

Walked down to the Club 400 (Barra) Monday night after I logged off and I have to say they are kicking ass and taking names there. The girls were all dressed up like mermaids and they had the place decorated pretty cool. The owner has to be pulling in more money than usual to go out for that expense. Not that many locals either. Just some gringos that came in from a drilling rig that day.

C1

Exec Talent
05-30-08, 12:25
You guys are a perfect example of why we need search engines to find anything.

On my current business trip to Rio about 80% of the passengers on the plane from the US were Brazilians. I am a frequent visitor and now find this typical. The lack of tourists has not been lost on the top girls. The hotest Brazilian girl I was with last year was not in Brazil. If you want to be with the best looking Brazilians (from all over the country), go to Europe where most of them are now working. With the US exchange rate factored in, the price is about the same.

Also, if you are living in the US you may not even have to travel. I find Brazilians on Craigslist, Eros and major agency sites all the time.

Dollars
05-30-08, 13:41
Either Gisele or Gabriella. Not sure from what I can remember. My wing dude made it with her and didn't get her name/number before she walked off with someone else. Just one of those nights. She really is quite cute for ADR and I don't even think her hair (curly & long) has extensions like most of these chics wear. And damn if I can't stand fake hair.

But I can assure you that if she is there you will know. I've done quite a bit of mongering from one end of Rio to the other over the past two years and I have NEVER seen a chic that tall down here.

I'll be back Thursday nite and will try to get the lowdown.

Walked down to the Club 400 (Barra) Monday night after I logged off and I have to say they are kicking ass and taking names there. The girls were all dressed up like mermaids and they had the place decorated pretty cool. The owner has to be pulling in more money than usual to go out for that expense. Not that many locals either. Just some gringos that came in from a drilling rig that day.

C1How do you get to ADR or Club 400 from Copa (Ave Atlantica)?

Thanks

Dollars
05-30-08, 13:42
Craftyone,

What was the name of the 6'3" Amazonian Black girl at ADR??? Thanks.How do you get to ADR?

Doggus
05-30-08, 18:37
I have just spent a few days in Rio and am now back in SP (first trip to Rio since 2004).

OK, I have no hesitation in giving this place a glowing report. I walked straight into the Edificio Central shopping mall and on the first floor I caught the elevator up to floor 32. I then changed elevators and went up to floor 33 and made a beeline for apt 3320.

Very friendly greeting by receptionist and initial impressions about the place were good. I was led to a room where i was told to wait for the girls.

One by one the girls came in and introduced themselves individually with the usual Brazilian greeting (com beijos) - it's almost as if they each have 30 seconds to shine and make an impression on you.

Barbara was the only girl that spoke English and so she explained the drill. R95 for 40 mins or R115 for 1 hour. Or 2 girls for R180 (40 mins) and so on. Barbara told me that she was the only girl in the place who did CIM. She did say that some of the other girls would allow on the face but not in the mouth. Now, she could well have been telling me this merely to put herself in pole position - I'll never know and am not really too bothered.

Barbara is quite tall, slim and B cup breasts (But with enormous nipples) You could probably hang 4 Picassos on each one - I kid you not. She started off with a 20 min massage and her technique is sensational - highly recommended. Finished with CIM as promised. (Body 8/10, Service 9/10, Overall 8/10)

Carol is a bit of Nelly Furtado lookalike. Beautiful girl with a slim body and large natural breasts. Very sensual and a fantastic kisser. Those breasts were a joy to kiss. No CIM but definitely worth a visit. (Body 9/10, Service 8/10, Overall 8/10)

Brenda is an absolute honey. Smallish, slim dark skinned girl with small breasts but this girl is an absolute sweetheart - what a great smile this girl has. Very intimate and sensual girl - highly recommended. (Body 8/10, Service 9/10, Overall 9/10)


Couple of very minor downsides were the lack of boite (i prefer this as a means of socialising with the girls) and the fact that the beds are made up of cushioned chairs pushed together - not really a major problem to be honest.

Overall, given the prices and the quality of the girls this place is well worth a visit.

Java Man
05-30-08, 18:55
http://www.ancoradorecreio.com.br/principal1.asp

I've never visited this termas, but believe it's in Barra. Of the names, Craftyone mentioned, only Karol has pics.

El Greco
05-30-08, 19:51
http://www.ancoradorecreio.com.br/principal1.asp

I've never visited this termas, but believe it's in Barra. Of the names, Craftyone mentioned, only Karol has pics.

Beyond Barra on Avenida Americas at RECREIO on the left going away from Barra. Had big signs.

ABERTA A PARTIR DAS 17:00h
Américas, nº 13.081 Km 14 - Recreio -RJ
Fone: 55 (21) 3326-3334 / 3387-7303

Nice place with a small boite and a swimming pool with rooms around it.
Have been there a few years back. Normal pricing as I recall.
Call them for update

El Greco

Sperto
05-30-08, 19:53
Couple of very minor downsides were the lack of boite (i prefer this as a means of socialising with the girls) and the fact that the beds are made up of cushioned chairs pushed together - not really a major problem to be honest.
Doggus, very nice report!

In a casa de massagem you go and take your pick, choose the girl and the desired session, f**k, shower (if they have this possibility) and leave. Most customers just want a quickie. The socializing part you have in the two minutes she's spreading the sheet and taking of her clothes.

3320 is the most expensive casa in Rio Branco 156. They have nice rooms, background-music, walls that goes all the way to the roof, nice ladies and good service.

This doesn't necessary mean that they have the nicest ladies in the building, but if you're in a hurry, want to get rid of some steam and don't mind paying some extra then 3320 is a good choice.

BTW, Barbara lied about she's the only one doing CIM.

Doggus
05-30-08, 20:37
Doggus, very nice report!

In a casa de massagem you go and take your pick, choose the girl and the desired session, f**k, shower (if they have this possibility) and leave.

BTW, Barbara lied about she's the only one doing CIM.

Thanks for the info Sperto - you may have guessed that's my first visit to a casa de massagem. I can now see it's a different type of outlet to the termas. Having a sauna, boite and other facilities is obviously reflected in the higher price of a terma.

I did consider it highly probable that Barbara was spinning me a yarn with the CIM claim. I'm not too upset as she did give pretty good service. Guess I can ask each girl directly in Portuguese next time.

Cheers

Phunluv
05-31-08, 21:08
Just wanted to thank here Don & Ken at Amerioca for making my first trip to Rio a pretty smooth experience.

It was a very short trip so there's not much for me to add. My impression of course is very positive. I think the quality and the intensity of the sessions here can be pretty good, whether at a terma or takeout at Help. Maybe Cuba comes close in terms of the passion of the girls. Colombia can be hit or miss in that regard although colombianas have other endearing qualities.

Had one bad session at Monte Carlo although my 2nd try was fantastic; so as reported here and in other boards MC can be iffy, and yes they did try to overcharge someone in our group although I think he overreacted and didn't handle it properly, it was just 6R difference, even with today's exchange rate no need to get into a tizzy. I paid for one extra beer at Luomo's, again 6R, I pointed it out to the receptionist but I let it slide because it was my fault for not keeping track of the girls when they ordered a drink (although I let her know if there's a next time, I wasn't going to be as forgiving).

[It balanced out anyway because they forgot to charge me a beer at Cuatro one night.]

Had some fun with some spinner-type cuties at Luomo's and Cuatro is definitely a monger institution that everyone should visit at least once in their life. Had a very intense dupla at Cuatro.

Someone below mentioned CC skimming at Copamar motel. Thanks for the warning! I stayed there one night with my Help takeout. Made a precautionary call to my CC company, everything was ok, and I warned them to keep an eye out on that business.

By the way, Copamar seems to have ripoff prices besides the other ripoff dangers. 600R for the top suite!! 180R for the normal suite I chose was more than enough for me. I did a little web browsing afterwards and found several motels with their top suite going for under 300R.

My mistake for not researching this before and relying on my girl. If anyone has any suggestions for a love motel near Copa or Ipanema, I'm all ears.

I do give a thumbs up to Hotel Corinto, just 70 reals for 6 hours but it's very far away from Help. I went there because me and my Help date were club hopping in Ipanema and she had to be way south the next day.

Besides the street urchins around Help late at night, I didn't run into or see any trouble, although my behavior was pretty staid this first time around.

Found a hostel right around the corner from Amerioca and just steps away from my apt. building. Could be a good idea to save money. I have enough FF miles for 2 more Rio trips, then I can stay at a hostel and go to the termas during afternoon/early evening. You can take all the showers you want at the terma, lol! :) If I can find some economical love motels near Copa, then I'm set and I don't have to worry about security issues of a Help take-out freaking out in my apt. or trying to steal stuff. . .

Thanks to today's economy and exchange rates, any way to save $$ is important. Why pay $120+ a night for an apartment if you're going to be worried about your take-out stealing your shit or breaking stuff?

So I will go back to Rio but NOT until I learn some Portuguese. My main regret was being lazy and not applying myself to the Pimsleur (which I had). Will definitely force myself to go through the 3 levels before I even book my next trip.

In my travels to Cuba and Colombia, I'm used to talking to the locals and the chicas and gaining some rapport that way. I've felt like I only scratched the surface on this trip so I will have to work harder to make the next trip more rewarding than the first.

Java Man
06-01-08, 06:28
A Goldmine of Information I found elsewhere. It has just about everything: Termas, Boates, Prives, Massagem; in Centro, Copa, Barra, and elsewhere in Rio. Shows where the Puteria is located on the Map. Includes Address and Phone numbers, Average Cost and links, (in Portuguese.)
And because it's a Google map, you can zoom in and out.
I have NO idea who created it, possibly a group effort done over time.

(Only error I caught was the location of the Ave Prado Junior Boates. There's a street with the same name near Santa Cruz, RJ.)

http://maps.google.com/?q=http://bitchmaps.com/rj

El Greco
06-01-08, 08:14
A Goldmine of Information I found elsewhere. It has just about everything: Termas, Boates, Prives, Massagem; in Centro, Copa, Barra, and elsewhere in Rio. Shows where the Puteria is located on the Map. Includes Address and Phone numbers, Average Cost and links, (in Portuguese.)
And because it's a Google map, you can zoom in and out.
I have NO idea who created it, possibly a group effort done over time.

(Only error I caught was the location of the Ave Prado Junior Boates. There's a street with the same name near Santa Cruz, RJ.)

http://maps.google.com/?q=http://bitchmaps.com/rj

There is an old Greek say that goes like that...
"I grow up always learning (something new)"
Very well done.
Thank you

El Greco

Wandering Fool
06-01-08, 16:30
You guys are a perfect example of why we need search engines to find anything.

On my current business trip to Rio about 80% of the passengers on the plane from the US were Brazilians. I am a frequent visitor and now find this typical. The lack of tourists has not been lost on the top girls. The hotest Brazilian girl I was with last year was not in Brazil. If you want to be with the best looking Brazilians (from all over the country), go to Europe where most of them are now working. With the US exchange rate factored in, the price is about the same.

Also, if you are living in the US you may not even have to travel. I find Brazilians on Craigslist, Eros and major agency sites all the time.

Sadly, once they get up here, the garotas learn our ways all too quickly. Pay up front, lesser quality service, always on the clock, Todo la noche for $1000, $3000, $5000 sky's the limit. Some revert to massage only (no full service). In general the brazilians tend to provide more gfe service than other nationalities (with many exceptions, of course) but it's never the same as down in Rio, that's for sure.

What do you find in Europe? What's their visa situation for getting over there? What are typical charges?

Sperto
06-01-08, 16:41
What do you find in Europe? What's their visa situation for getting over there? What are typical charges?
I limit my P4P to Brazil, but I just chatted with a friend on MSN, an ex-Barbarellagirl. She's done more than a dozen trips to Europe to visit her sugar-daddys. She has never worked in Europe but told me she was now thinking of working in Spain earning 300 euro/hour. I can't recall the name of the place... some sort of VIP-place. Sounds very expensive. :(

Exec Talent
06-01-08, 17:07
Sadly, once they get up here, the garotas learn our ways all too quickly. Pay up front, lesser quality service, always on the clock, Todo la noche for $1000, $3000, $5000 sky's the limit. Some revert to massage only (no full service). In general the brazilians tend to provide more gfe service than other nationalities (with many exceptions, of course) but it's never the same as down in Rio, that's for sure.

What do you find in Europe? What's their visa situation for getting over there? What are typical charges?

I have been with many women throughout Europe, almost without exception (except for the Germans) I have had the same experience as I have had in Rio. Prices were not that much different from Copa termas prices and in my opinion, the talent was head and shoulders above the Copa termases. The best looking girls from throughout Brazil, not just Rio travel to Europe.

Full Throttle
06-01-08, 22:14
after a hiatus of several months, i’ve enjoyed 8 days in rio spreading over the last 4 weeks. some are encumbered with work, but i’ve managed to do a little exploring and have some new opinions...

i had mainly positive events, and feel more confident than ever stating that, in terms of gfe’s, rio lacks peers. i’m sure you can find servitude in parts of asia, but, in terms of experiencing mutually-selfish, intense sexual sessions with professional girls, rio is unparalleled.

i made the trek from leblon to centro far too many times, cursing the exchange rate with every whiff of blue smoke along n/s copa cabana. i miss the leisurely walk from the beach to monte carlo or l’uomos of yesteryear. but, the allure of superior service and somewhat reasonable prices consistently led to traversing the many “walking streets with cars,” avoiding the temptations of buying microsoft office for $10r, eating at terrific “por kilo” restaurants, and strategizing on how to get home without being crammed among hundreds in a 60-passenger bus or waiting for several subway trains until it was my turn to be compressed into the middle of a car.

after corresponding with sperto, i intended to re-visit some of the lower-end venues from months and years past, then try a new recommendation or two. without an enthusiastic accomplice (where’s ibiza007 when i need him?), i found this effort fruitless. i visited a handful of $20r and under establishments. even when i ran across some strong recommendations on quitana 130, i couldn’t pull the trigger. perhaps if i was going to be in town for more than 3 days straight, or if was truly down to my last 20r, or if i had never enjoyed the higher-quality girls of rio, i could have done it. after all, i’m the guy who helped pioneer visits to the $11 costa rica brothels and always start with the $6.50 quito choices before splurging on the $8.00 girls.

but, being away caused me to long for the quintessential rio experiences in the termas, and the high-end budget events in the nicer massage venues.

even the massage apartments caused me consternation. i sought old flames from rio branco 156 in apartments 1825, 1733, and in the 181 building. some doors went unanswered while others were opened by unfamiliar girls. prices have gone up a little, now $80r-110r, but the facilities pale in comparison to their sao paulo counterparts.

in the 156 building, i settled for a pleasant girl at 2622. i have forgotten her name, which is disappointing only in that i would like to warn everyone off. i’m sure i sound jaded when i would do such a thing to a girl who gave a very nice bbbj, but here attempt to extort $50r just for anal or finishing on her left me quite annoyed. also, the facilities there leave something to be desired. the massage table was accompanied by a couch-looking device that can only be intended to enhance the chiropractor’s business next door. the choice of girls was only okay, and mine had dirty peasants’ feet.

i later went to the help veranda. while my fear of being confronted by my “almost girl” several weeks before turned out to be a non-issue, the available girls was not particularly favorable. i probably only recognized 25% of the girls, all of whom have questionable reputations and are masters at the art of persuasion. with very minor exceptions, the temptation to contract for services was absent.

the following day marked the turning point. i decided to visit cancun. my first rio experience involved termas, namely monte carlo and solarium back in 2002. while the cost has risen from less than $50 all-in to nearly $200, the terma atmosphere offers a uniquely wonderful rio experience that represents all that is great about the culture’s freedom of expression, that, happily, can be so sexual in nature.

cancun has now emerged as my favorite venue. the pricing is identical to 4x4, 160r/ 40 minutes with a 30r cover charge. sessions initiated prior to 5pm result in the cover being waived. unlike 4x4, there are daily themes that offer additional fun or reduced prices. tuesdays are my favorite: either “festival of beers night” or “wedding night.” 6 free beers are included with the 30r cover on beer night. the “wedding night” is more fun than it sounds as the facility is decorated with balloons and streamers to celebrate the life-long (or 40-minute) union of lovers. the girls wear traditional wedding attire—crisp white veils, high-heeled shoes, and soft white bikinis.

there are around 35 girls working at a time, maybe a few more. i think that’s more than l’uomos and about the same as monte carlo. of the 28 girls i evaluated at one point, more than 15 were doable and a handful could be considered knockouts. the remaining 7 were otherwise occupied consummating their wedding vows.

after an hour of keeping a low-profile, i hung out with mirela, a sweet girl who i would recommend. she has a facial structure similar to goldie hawn, with blond hair done up like farah faucet’s. her smile was radiant. her body was 24-year old feminine, firm but soft to the touch.

our courtship lasted about 45 minutes. my plan was to bring a friend back the following day, so i tried to avoid having a session. i almost did. the tongue-in-ear trick didn’t get me. the kissing was nice, but wouldn’t have closed the deal. her attention to my robe and all things beneath was expected. when she asked me if i liked the cola, i knew my defenses would be challenged, but not ruined. however, when she responded to her own question by rolling her eyes in her head saying that she “loved it,” i was done.

mirela did not disappoint. she was passionate and compassionate. after 25 minutes of rigorous foreplay, as promised, she covered me then guided me in. her earlier proclamation about loving such a thing as that was not part of the wedding night bait and switch, but a genuine expression of want and need. wow.

in subsequent days, i tried different venues. lazer 502 is still loud and the bar area is not clean and smells worse. however, the girls have gotten more friendly over the years and my buddy had the time of his life with a beautiful little 19-year old girl. the price has gone up from 112 to around 135 for an hour. cover is 15r, but includes 3 beers. in the category of drama (and there is always drama), a bi- or tri-lingual girl accused me of hiding my ability to speak portugese. i suppose i happened on a spanish sentence that sounded exactly like the native language. but, there was no convincing her, or the other 5 girls that gave me extreme attitude as we made our way out of the closing bar. even in street clothes while waiting for the bus, they lit into me for deceiving them. i still can’t figure out what my angle could have been in lying about such a thing, but i will contemplate further.

the next great surprise of the visit was the resurgence of 4x4. i haven’t been reading the thread much, so maybe i’m the last to know. my last two visits were very average. we arrived around 3pm expecting a skeleton crew of the below-average girls. instead, we were treated to nearly 50 girls who seemed to exhibit happy, affectionate attitudes to all of the guests. here, i went with rafaella, an extremely fit young lady who doesn’t drink or smoke (please don’t ruin her natural high be revealing to her that we all smoke when in 4x4). boy, does she kiss, though. and, for the 2nd time in the matter of days, i only used 2 entry points during the session, neither being the natural one. she insisted and who was i to argue?

my buddy’s experiences there and in cancun (2 over a 3 hour period) were excellent. he chose a rather large-boned girl in cancun who was quite physical. there was a lot of light slapping, pulling, pushing, erotic spitting, biting and stuff. i think he was on the receiving end of 70%.

so, the resultant policy change after this past month may be to sacrifice quantity for quality. i haven’t ruled out sucking it up and going to monte carlo twice at full-price, then skirting the entry fee forever more (or until they decide to cancel the membership plan). that would bring the price down to 190r all-in, plus drinks. if i subtract transportation time and cost, a strong argument could be made.

other notes:

le palace is no longer. it is now san marino. 50r entrance plus 160r/40 minutes. unless it has improved 5-fold, they’re screwed.

lapa is very cool for non-pro and, maybe, semi-pro fun. i did that 3 nights. there is an on-off bus that goes right down riachelo, so transportation to copa is only $2r. i took it as late as 1am.

monchique is 75% as good as carretau, but barely half the cost (17+r weekdays, 19+r weekends, i think). on n/s copa cabana closer to miguel lemos than siguera campos.

Shemp
06-02-08, 01:26
"When she asked me if I liked the cola, I knew my defenses would be challenged, but not ruined. However, when she responded to her own question by rolling her eyes in her head saying that she “loved it,” I was done"

what exactly are you refering to in this statement?






shemp

Mark_Simon
06-02-08, 02:37
Tweaky?


"When she asked me if I liked the cola, I knew my defenses would be challenged, but not ruined. However, when she responded to her own question by rolling her eyes in her head saying that she “loved it,” I was done"

What exactly are you refering to in this statement?

Shemp

Ejam06
06-02-08, 03:17
Have anyone heard of a swingers club in Centro at Hotel IBIZA? I think the of it is FESTA 18A.

Rock Harders
06-02-08, 05:36
Mongers-
I just got back from a short, two night weekend trip to Rio and its time to report my experiences.

TRAVEL/ACCOMODATIONS
I got a last minute (bought thursday night, depart friday morning) flight on GOL between Buenos Aires and Rio de Janeiro for just under $400 USD. I called up David from Gringo Management late thursday night and sure enough, he hooked it up with a two bedroom, oceanfront (Copacabana, Rua Souza Lima 16) apartment for $130 USD per night. The apartment was pretty basic but sufficient and was in a perfect location, four blocks from HELP and one block from all the action on Avenida Cobacabana. This was my second time using Gringo Management and both times everything went exactly as expected with no problems and no bullshit. I arranged to have Bruno the driver waiting for me and my buddy at the airport and he was there as arranged, for R$65.
I would not recommend flying on GOL between Buenos Aires and Rio de Janeiro because the stop in Sao Paolo causes big time delays. My flight was delayed two hours leaving Buenos Aires AND Rio de Janeiro, AND an hour and a half in Sao Paolo before arriving in Rio. Aerolineas Argentinas, TAM, and probably Varig all fly non-stop between EZE-GIG and I would rather pay a bit more than deal with the headaches of making the stop in Sao Paolo.

CHICA EXPERIENCES
Anyway, upon arrival I was famished so we went to Porcao Rio's with the view of Pao de Acucar and it was excellent as always. Unlimited prime-quality beef and sushi, among other things, for R$80. After resting up a bit we went over to HELP around 12:45 AM. HELP was as good as I have ever seen it, there were at least 10-15 girls I would rate solid 8/10 or higher. I did not waste any time and after a few drinks I made a deal with a beautiful blonde from Belo Horizonte. 22 years old, has a regular job at Localiza car rental agency in Belo Horizonte, comes to Rio once in awhile to make some cash. This girl was a true 9 (very rare for me to award that high a score), nice medium size very well done fake breast, perfect body, conversational english (not important in my case, but worth mentioning). Without a doubt in the top 1% you will ever see in Help, she asked for R$400 for the entire night; I offered her R$300 and explained to her since I am such a strapping young stud she should take that deal, at that point she countered with R$350 and I held firm and she took the R$300 with no further discussion.
Back at the apartment the experience was just as good as I expected, as this girl made love as only a 9/10 Brasieira truly can. We spent an hour or two talking and getting to know each other, as this girl was of the level that I did not want to just get my rocks off and kick her the fuck out. After a few drinks and lots of conversation, we went to the bedroom and began the first of several sessions of sensual love-making. Lots of sensual kissing, BBBJ, an experience as if we had been lovers for years. The only downside was that she was reluctant to do BBFS, so I relented and put the condom on. After about 40 minutes of sex in many positions, I was unable to cum with the condom, so she delightfully took it off and finished me off with a BBBJ with CIM. After a few hours of sleep, we woke up and had sex 3 more times between 11am and 2pm. Overall, one of my top 5 mongering experiences ever.
Saturday night my buddy and I went back to Help and found it very crowded but lacking big time in quality. There was no girl in there any higher than a 5 or 6, so we left and tried Barbarella's, which totally sucked. The girls in there were very mediocre and asked for R$500; I got one down to R$300 but decided she wasn't worth even R$150 so we left. In general Barbarella's is a ripoff and I don't think I will be going back there ever; why pay R$30 for a Bacardi in Barb's when you can pay R$8 for one at Help? Anyway, I ended up going going home alone Saturday night, although some interesting street walkers harassed us on the walk from Barb's back to Help; they wanted R$70, were very aggressive and probably were transvestites.

GENERAL OBSERVATIONS

Overall I had a great time in Rio and I think that things have actually improved here compared to September 2007. I noticed that Copacabana has been significantly cleaned up (almost no bums along Avenida Atlantica, a large police presence) and that all establishments made a real effort to be friendly and helpful. I also noticed that nearly every girl I encountered in Help and Barbarellas spoke conversational English, even though I did not require, expect, or even want to be spoken to in English, as my Portuguese is serviceable and I speak fluent Spanish. Regular restaurants all had people that made an effort to speak English as well, again even though I did not need it. Just as an experiment in Help, I would speak to the girls in Spanish after they first spoke to me in English and they would give a disgusted look and ask if I spoke English; I asked if they spoke Spanish and they gave me a "yeah fucking right" look as if why would they ever bother learning Spanish, all very amusing and interesting. Another observation is that the really hot girls I have seen in Rio are not from Rio, but from other places, Minas Gerais, Santa Catarina, or Parana.
The experience again really makes we want to open a bar in Rio as soon as possible, ahead of the September 2009 target date. I am getting tired of the endless bullshit involved in running a business in Argentina and I think its time to give Brasil a try, and this trip reinforces this idea.
Suerte,
Rock Harders

Abzsafado
06-02-08, 05:40
I see the smoking ban is up and running , no more smoking inside bars. Makes it interesting in the boates, half the women are now hanging round outside the door. Lets you see whats available before you go in. Not sure how this will affect the termas' , will we be seeing crowds off men in bathrobes having a smoke in the street?

Java Man
06-02-08, 06:36
Have anyone heard of a swingers club in Centro at Hotel IBIZA? I think the of it is FESTA 18A.

http://www.fantasiasdecasados.com.br/

I have not visited, but from the site: $R100 for single guys, (20% discount before 9p,) single guys must call to make reservation, (number of single guys is limited.) Every Thursday from 8p to 2a.

Your hostess is Alice, (she looks hot.)
http://www.fantasiasdecasados.com.br/fc_fotos_alice14.html
Guy on another board was raving about her BBBJ skills.
(If you can find the blog spot link, you'll be rewarded with more pics of this exhibitionist babe and her friends.)

Contact Alice to make reservation, phone number is on site.

JohnnyBraz
06-02-08, 08:22
Rock Harders,

Any photo's off the girl from belo horozonte? I find women from there are the best looking in the world. Also most are reasonably educated.

Bubba Boy
06-02-08, 12:22
I have been with many women throughout Europe, almost without exception (except for the Germans) I have had the same experience as I have had in Rio. Prices were not that much different from Copa termas prices and in my opinion, the talent was head and shoulders above the Copa termases. The best looking girls from throughout Brazil, not just Rio travel to Europe.

I split my time between Europe and Brazil. I find the Brazilians in Europe to be significantly less service friendly than they are in Rio. Even in Rio, around carnaval time you will see a drop in service and increase in price, it is just supply and demand. In Europe the supply and demand equation is even more stacked in the girls favor and hence their service is worse.

In Brazil even an ugly guy with bad hygene can be treated like a king, with many girls willing to sleep with him, maybe even for free. In Europe the same guy would be treated just like another ugly John with bad hygene and would be serviced accordingly. It is just a supply and demand thing. Of course the service is worse in Europe.

Full Throttle
06-02-08, 13:59
"When she asked me if I liked the cola, I knew my defenses would be challenged, but not ruined. However, when she responded to her own question by rolling her eyes in her head saying that she “loved it,” I was done"

what exactly are you refering to in this statement?
shemp

She doesn't just tolerate anal to improve business, she "loves it," which turned out to be a fact.

Exec Talent
06-02-08, 15:04
I split my time between Europe and Brazil. I find the Brazilians in Europe to be significantly less service friendly than they are in Rio. Even in Rio, around carnaval time you will see a drop in service and increase in price, it is just supply and demand. In Europe the supply and demand equation is even more stacked in the girls favor and hence their service is worse.

In Brazil even an ugly guy with bad hygene can be treated like a king, with many girls willing to sleep with him, maybe even for free. In Europe the same guy would be treated just like another ugly John with bad hygene and would be serviced accordingly. It is just a supply and demand thing. Of course the service is worse in Europe.

Although this is a Brazilian forum, my experience in Europe applied to all the nationalities, not just Brazilians. The exception seemed to be Germans who try to simulate acts. Otherwise I had no problem getting the GFE from the girls including the many Brazilians there.

I have seen many times in Rio where ugly, severly overweight guys are totally ignored by the girls. For some reason guys think the girls in the termas must take on all comers; that is not true. They can refuse to see a guy, and do.

Bravo
06-02-08, 15:21
I have been with many women throughout Europe, almost without exception (except for the Germans) I have had the same experience as I have had in Rio. Prices were not that much different from Copa termas prices and in my opinion, the talent was head and shoulders above the Copa termases. The best looking girls from throughout Brazil, not just Rio travel to Europe.


Really? The price in Europe is the same as the prices in Copa?!! I really am shocked! Every girl I have ever talked to that went to europe comes back bragging that they make between 2-400Euros for only 2 hours. I met one girl on my last trip who told me she used to make 80euros for 20 minutes in Switzerland. Are you saying that they are lying and only make like 2-300R for all night like they do in Copa or am I misunderstanding you.

George90
06-02-08, 15:59
She doesn't just tolerate anal to improve business, she "loves it," which turned out to be a fact.

Perhaps this should be in the Phrases thread; cola = anal?

Fazer pela cola / encolar = to do anal?

I have never heard the word 'cola' used in Brazil referring to anal sex.

Ejam06
06-02-08, 16:01
Thanks for the reply Chingon.


http://www.fantasiasdecasados.com.br/

I have not visited, but from the site: $R100 for single guys, (20% discount before 9p,) single guys must call to make reservation, (number of single guys is limited.) Every Thursday from 8p to 2a.

Your hostess is Alice, (she looks hot.)

http://www.fantasiasdecasados.com.br/fc_fotos_alice14.html

Guy on another board was raving about her BBBJ skills.

(If you can find the blog spot link, you'll be rewarded with more pics of this exhibitionist babe and her friends.)

Contact Alice to make reservation, phone number is on site.

George90
06-02-08, 16:13
In Brazil even an ugly guy with bad hygene can be treated like a king, with many girls willing to sleep with him, maybe even for free. In Europe the same guy would be treated just like another ugly John with bad hygene and would be serviced accordingly. It is just a supply and demand thing. Of course the service is worse in Europe.

Are you saying that the demand for pro sex in Rio / Brazil has fallen sufficiently for the GDPs to notice and actually adjust their offerings accordingly?

That is surprising, especially at the high end. I think that it is more credible that the hottest GDPs are going to Europe or the US, (assuming they have visas) and earning more money there. The GDPs who remain in Rio would maintain their prices as there is less competition.

For prices to fall and service quality to rise must mean that GDPs are starving for customers. Help and the termas would have to be nearly empty most days for that to happen. The reports I have read suggest that there are fewer customers but not no customers. Have I misread something?

Piper1
06-02-08, 16:54
I have never heard the word 'cola' used in Brazil referring to anal sex.Maybe the word was actually 'culo' (backside). I used the word many times when I was in CR.

July Gan
06-02-08, 17:43
Maybe the word was actually 'culo' (backside). I used the word many times when I was in CR.

Apart from the word bunda, there are plenty of slang terms to refer to the arse in Brazil. The most common are "cú" and "rabo". The verbs "esculachar" or "enrabar" are derived from this. "cola" is slang used in Spanish speaking South & Central American countries.

Abzsafado
06-02-08, 19:57
Help and the termas would have to be nearly empty most days for that to happen. The reports I have read suggest that there are fewer customers but not no customers. Have I misread something?

l was in Help last night and it was almost empty, there were more people in Erotika on Saturday night. The customers in Erotika were mainly brasilians,
the exchange rate doesn't affect them or the girls who work for them.

Jake993
06-02-08, 20:07
For prices to fall and service quality to rise must mean that GDPs are starving for customers. Help and the termas would have to be nearly empty most days for that to happen. The reports I have read suggest that there are fewer customers but not no customers. Have I misread something?

I think you guys are pretty much saying the same thing. I'm not sure demand has dropped off significantly in Brazil these days but you can bet that supply has not dropped off a great deal either. Sure there is seasonal fluctuation and prices go up and down a little with holiday season and carnival. But relatively speaking, Brazil is still a pretty good deal when compared to Europe when you look at price AND performance. I don't think the economy has pick up so much to dissuade bus loads of GDPs coming to Rio from Fortaleza and Maceio to make money turning tricks. For every high end GDP who goes to Europe or the USA, there's at least one coming into town to take her place.

I have yet to go to HELP and see more guys that girls. When the number of girls in the place is less than the number of guys, it's time to find a new place.

I trade emails occasionally with a hot high-end Brazilian GDP who moved to Europe working in a place. She tells me that she makes 900 - 1,300 Euros a day. In her first few days she made 400 Euros but quickly things picked up and she hasn't looked back. She says that she makes more money and doesn't have to work as hard (fewer programs) than she EVER did in Brazil. Work less - make more money. Sounds to me like the demand for her services in Europe are higher. Granted, she has a smoking hot body and has all of the moves. Her GFE is second to none - what an actress. No wonder she's making money. She says 50% of her business is repeat and another 20-25% is referral. She's good at what she does and wanted to move up to the majors while she still has her "pitching arm".

Bubba Boy
06-02-08, 20:21
The point i was trying to make is I that I am in no doubt that the service and experience is way better in Rio than it is in Europe. In Rio it is very easy to get the girls to hang out with you after the Terma is closed or hang around for free, it is actually quite difficult to get rid of them sometimes. This happens to nearly everybody that spends more than a few days there, and one does not have to be a Brad Pitt lookalike or have the money of Bill gates. The girls tend to give it there all.

This type of thing just doesn't happen in Europe. It is much more of commercial transaction.

El Austriaco
06-02-08, 20:22
In Brazil even an ugly guy with bad hygene can be treated like a king, with many girls willing to sleep with him, maybe even for free.
Over the ten months that I spent in Brazil from 2002 through 2006, this was certainly my impression, and when talking about P4P, it certainly isn't any problem to get laid for anyone, regardless of how bad in shape they are.

In 2004, I was walking around in crutches for two-and-a-half months, was that any problem to get laid? Certainly not. As a matter of fact, both the girls and the staff would make sure that I would get rooms at the ground floor of the love motels, so that I didn't have to walk up the stairs and overextert myself :)

I distinctly remember a guy that was hanging out in MP all the time, who was in even worse shape than I was (i.e. permanently disabled), who didn't have any problem pulling the garotas, though he could hardly walk at all. I remember some of my acquaintances, one of whom looked like Papai Noel, another one who was drinking heavily pretty much all the time, and tons of obnoxious, out-of-shape guys all over Copacabana. Did this stop them from getting laid? Not at all. So IMHO and in my experience, about the only thing that will ever get your rejected by a P4P provider in Rio is a lack of cool cash or your unwillingness to part with it :).

EA

Holland Connect
06-02-08, 21:04
Hey everyone!

For a long time I have been a lurker at this site, and I thank everyone for the very valuable information. It is my first trip to Brazil and after a few days of running through women I found an exceptional, high-quality independent GDP from Ipanema! She is really perfect, and I adored her so much that I ended up with her staying with me for a total of four days on this trip! Last night I was so happy because of her that I woke up in the middle of the night and just wrote and wrote and wrote. So that that will not go to waste and all that, I am sharing it with you. She is so hot, I am like wow, wow, wow!!!!! I had the best time of my life with her and so of course you should expect my accounts to be subjective :)

Holland Connect
06-02-08, 21:11
Words don't exist to describe this muse. I came to Brazil having very high expectations, and I thought there are many beautiful women in Brazil, but Viviane is of a much much much higher caliber. I would say that being with her is an experience that changes your life. Some people escalate the Mount Everest or go to the moon to feel their life is complete, but the true way to do it is actually to be with Viviane, and I am not joking.

I looked aroung GPguia and looked around the best GPs here. Viviane caught my attention so much that I planned to meet her a week already before arriving to Brazil. The way she talks is very sensual, very sexy, you know you are talking to a women full of feminine hormones. And she is a beautiful woman with an amazing personality, I actually spent around 20 minutes talking to her two times (a total of 40 minutes). The first time I just was calling around GPs to know about them, their personality, the way they are. The second time is because after talking to the other ones and feeling how many are bureaucratic, or not very accomodating, or suspicious, or not as good, I knew that I had to call Viviane back.

I arrived here to Rio and went directly to sleep. The next day, as I told her, I called her back at 09h30 of the morning to confirm our encounter that will happen at 12h00 (mid-day). I knew this was going to be exceptional, and I wanted to take advantage of every minute I passed with her, so I asked her to bring some of her sexy clothes.
She arrived in front of my apartment, and I went down to pick her up from the driver's car. Wow, Wow, Wow, it is a vision to be seen. She is SO BEAUTIFUL, a classy young thing with beautiful face, beautiful hair, and exceptional body. I know that brazilian women have bunda, but truly this is the ultimate bunda. And her thighs, did I talk about her thighs? I mean her thighs!!!!! I walked her to the door and everyone around us stopped just to look at her, she is incredible! Some even were yelling "Creu" because she is reminiscent of the girl that dances in Creu but with better ass in my opinion which is something unbelievable! This is not joke guys. I really know that she is the one and only true world wonder. Something that you never though existed, and thought she would need photoshop to look like that, but she is all natural like that!

I never thought women like her exist. She is note physically, and her personality is just great note.

She arrived, and made me feel directly at ease, like I knew her since before, like we are used to having the best sex of our lives together! We kissed a lot, she is such a good kisser! And I adored caressing her beautiful face, her beautiful hair, her beautiful perfect skin, and just grabbing that Bunda. Every time she stood up or I just see her bunda, I have a natural urge to just jump on it and grab it and just be smothered under it, she smells so good! And did I talk about her pink pussy and tight asshole? Did I talk about her small small waist? I love it that when you see only her upper part, you would never imagine she has such a fit and big thighs and ass! She is fit and small in the upper part, and kadooooom big and fit in the lower part, just like in your dreams!

We kissed a lot, A LOT, and we hugged and she danced for me, and I was ready very fast. It is so great how this super-women inspires me. Even though I was tired, I didn't feel it at all! I was full of energy and all ready and prepared. We talked sexy talks, and she is so passionate and educated. I was ready and I wanted her in all positions. She started wearing the clothes she brought one of the other: WOW she looks AMAZING in shorts, and she told me she uses those shorts to run around on the beacy?!?!?!? Lucky people those that are arounf when this happens! You really really really have to see her in shorts! You will never forget it, you will want to take a picture and put it as a background on your phone and computer! Or her in jeans. I mean what is that!!!!! It is more than great! More than incredible! I can't believe she walks around in those jeans, it must be a crime somewhere because it will distract the whole road! She danced for me using many of her clothes, talked sexy to me (I really love how she talks, it makes your penis really hard even before you see anything, she is very good at this! ). We went directly to the shower and I enjoyed touched all of her beautiful sun-tanned skin while I used the liquid soap on her. Her skin is so soft, and she smells so good, and she kissed and hugs and touches me and washed me SO WELL! I couldn't wait so I took her to the bed. We started and her pussy is wet and tight! I used my imported condoms because I heard the brazilian condoms are not that good. You can feel how warm and tight her pussy is, and the walls of her vagina SO MUCH! I fucked her PPMM exceptional while I grabbed her bunda, I fucked her D4, she went on top of me on both directions, and then I finished fucking her tight asshole flat-doggy (The position she is in when she is tanning on the beach) and she didn't have any problems when I started fast! I was so tight and good and everything that you could imagine and that you can never imagine at the same time! She was begging me to feed her my sperm (she said she needs it, she loves swallowing and I love that about her!) I came in her mouth and she swallowing it all and pleasure was on her face.

Having a woman next to you, and exceptional woman like Viviane, that is so full of female hormones does things to you! This never happened to me but after ejaculating, my penis stayed duro! It didn't want to go down at all! I asked her to go to the shower again because I love showering with her! She is so nice and great and lovely! And still my penis stayed duro, I couldn't beleive it, she has such a great effect on me! That is why we went for the second time again! She started sucking my dick, and wow she is good! She does it so well and nice and warm and full of pleasure that you could just have an appointment with her just for this!

And then doggy again but this time with her legs together. WOW!!!!! I fucked her, fucked her. fucked her! I couldn't tell which one is tighter her pussy or her ass!!! I felt that I will come soon so I asked her to fuck D Pe in front of the mirror. WOW, I LOVE LOOKING AT MYSELF FUCKING HER ON THE MIRROR.

I came again in her mouth and she loved it!!!!! I was so happy and tired after it that after we hugged for a while and I started to fall asleep, I asked her to go but I will miss her. When she stood up and I could see her bunda again, I felt full of energy again!!!!!! She is so beautiful with her face and bunda and skin abd beautiful tight breasts and all that! So I stood up and wore my clothes and went walking around in the streets with her until the driver's car. EVERYONE stopped doing everything and just looked at her like "Who is that?!?!?!?!?!?!" I adore her SO MUCH!

I went home and slept all happy, and for the next few days I had sex with other highly graded GPs from GPguia, went to the terma 4X4, and went to the beach but after Viviane, my standard of quality became so much higher! I couldn't not find or think of another women that matches how amazing VIVIANE is! You really need to at least be with her once, I guarantee that you will think that you wasted your life before her. It is a great and calming feeling to know that you can enjoy her company and all you need is just one phone call! You will not have any problems with any other women because you will know that they do not vale a pena, Viviane is much better and you can have her!

After trying other women, I knew all I needed is Viviane. I called her back and said that I have three days left in my trip and I want you to be with me during these three days! I know I will not find anyone better than her!

Today I did my second encounter with her which was amazing! She came over to my apartment all linda and gostoza! I bought food for us, and enjoyed hugging her while eating and she fed me and gave me juice mmmm..... I share a secret with you, her favorite juice is orange juice :)

I couldn't eat much because I was busy kissing her all over her perfect skin. She tastes so good, smells so great, and is all formosa when she sits and when she stands!

I stopped in the middle of the meal and said I can't wait anymore! Let's go to bed! I loved seeing her walk in front of me in a thong, she walks SO SEXY and her bunda is a vision to be seen!

We went to the bed, and we started the amazing time! Every time I looked at her I was thinking "WOW! I am next to this hot young thing jeitosa gostosa?" It is amazing how when I am next to her I have SO MUCH energy, but with other women I felt the effects of being in a different fuseau horario. I had so much energy although I did not sleep the night before! I think my brain recognizes that she is exceptional, that this does not normally happen to other human beings, so it gives me energy pushes to take advantage of this!

I fucked her tight pussy D4 looking at her in the eyes and enjoying the sexy talk we have together. She was enjoying it as much as I was loving it! She is so hot! Just how life is supposed to be and how life should be! I enjoyed her pussy and then came in her mouth and she loved every second of it! Of course, she swallowed!

After this I layed next to her for a bit. After it, she wore her sleeping gown and she is SO SEXY AND HOT! I just jumped and got fully of energy again which never happens normally! The vision of her bunda just made me wanna bury my face in it, and then I used her bunda as a pillow, and it felt SO GOOD!

Very fast I was ready again, amazed that I can be ready again while I was tired, and put a condom. This time I wanted to enjoy her bunda, so I put it in, and it was so easy with no problems! I fucked her ass again, and again, and again, and socai and she loved it! It was so tight my penis felt in heaven I was like wow! And then she started doing anal pompoarismo. It was AMAZING! She said I can come in her ass if I liked but that she would aodre it if I gave her my sperm to swallow! When I was almost going to ejaculate, I went out of her ass, and looking at her perfect breasts, I wanted to fuck them espanhola. I fucked her breasts, and it felt so good, and she talked to me sexy, and she was looking at me with the look in her eyes full of lust! It was sooooo good!!!!!! I loved fucking those beautiful perky perfect breasts looking at her face de gatinha. Very beautiful! When it was time to ejaculate, I started fucking her mouth and I came inside her mouth while she swallowed everything!!! I love it!!!
We hugged for a while, talked for a while, felt like I knew her for ever and felt very happy that the next day she will be here! I loved it how she walked aroung my apartment naked, how sexy she talks, and how great it feels to be around her!!!

In final, if you want a yound women with perfect big thighs and ass, and branca features, and that has perfect markinha de bikini, that knows how to have sex like nobody else can, that loves to swallow and be fucked in her pussy and ass and espanhola, and if you want to really change your perspective on life and want a GP that when you remember her you will be smiling all happy even when your day is going mal, call Viviane. Leave some for me though guys, I don't want the fila to take all her available time and leave me alone ;P

Face: Perfection! I love her face, her beautiful eyes, sexy lips, beautiful nose, and her hair that looks and smells so good! You will not regret it

Breasts: Perky and round and tight and nice! Loves how they look, how they feel in my mouth, and wrapped around my penis. SHE IS PERFECT! A COMPLETE PACKAGE!

Waist: So small and fininha, I love holding it D4, it is so amazing!
Bunda and Coixa: Exactly how a real woman should be, formosa, with perfect shaped bunda and coixas and beautiful skinn all great! And I love how the color of her pussy and asshole are pink! I can sleep in there all day and fuck it all night and love it a lot!

Oral: passionate, good, and she enjoys it so much! Your penis will thank you for this! Nota: perfect!

Vaginal: tight and warm and everything that it should be! Never felt anything as tight as this. Full of sensations using condoms! Loved it!

Anal: Just look at her bund and you will understand that no number and no words are enough to describe how great she does this! JUST PERFECT, MARVILLOUS, AMAZING, WITH POMPOARISMO.

Short version: what are you doing? Just call her and your life will be different, much better because of her! She is the best GP is Brazil, no doubt about it, so you ower this to yourself Try her before she knows that she deserves more than 1000 reais/hora. Now we are still getting a cheap price 300 reais / 2 horas + 50 motorista. She vale a lot more than that She is the perfect mixture between GFE and PSE

I think I am in love with her I am SO LUCKY!

28 years, very ponctual, very bonita and gostoa! I could not recommend anything more than her!

31/05/2008

Viviane continues to amaze me. She arrived today all discrete wearing jeans and she looked so beautiful! I walked with her to the apartment holding hands and felt so much passion with her.

We went in, and ate lunch together. Chicken and orange juice for her, she gets satisfaita after eating a small amount : I discovered also that na academia, she lifts 200 kg with her bumbum and legs : I adore all this :

We talked, she is very small and well educated and knows how to converse. Every now and then, I would take out a piece of her clothes because I cannot wait : She is a women full of class and elegance, and she knows how to dress. All of her underwears are so sexy and elegant!

She told me a lot of very interesting facts about herself. She told me that during puberty, her Bunda very fast became 90cm! She told me it looked incredible to be a kid with such a body. She said all the kids at school whenever they see her will just follow her around :

She told me that until now, many tell her that she is not a woman with bunda, but a bunda with a woman attached to it : She is very witty though and with a great personality, so it is a pleasure to just talk to her and spend time with her. She told me something that makes me understand why, as a man, I cannot help it but be incredibly attracted to her as soon as she is close to me! She said that her doctor tells her that she is full of female hormones A LOT more than the normal! That is why as soon as I see her I become crazy! It is a great feeling that you cannot just feel when you see her in pictures. You penis understands these things a lot more than your brain and will point into her direction immediately : She is a lot more of a woman than other women! Trust me, your penis will be ready a lot faster with her : In my case it stayed hard even after I ejaculated!

When I couldn't wait anymore, we went to the bed. We played our favorite game of seeing her change clothes : She has so many sexy clothes, and she knows how to wear them! I appreciated having my own modelling show :

I loved looking at her in front of the mirror. I could see her frontside, with her beautiful face, her formosa body and breasts, and her ass! Did I already talk about her bunda? I mean HER BUNDA!!!!!! Her bunda, her bunda, her bunda! Never seeing anything equal! You owe it to yourself to see her naked at least once. And her D4? I mean her D4! With those thights and the bunda and everything! I miss her so much! Why isn't she here now?!?!?!?! I should call her again!

I played with her hair while she sucked my dick. I asked for it to be slow and she did it so well! You can feel that she is full of lust and loving what she is doing! The way she breaths, the way she moves slower, the way she is horny makes you just wanna bend her over and fuck her like there is no tomorrow! I did that! Put the condom one, no need for lube because her pussy gets wet naturally, she loves sucking penis !
I started fucking her while I grabbed her incredibly small waist. Her bunda is SO CONFORTABLE! I tried sleeping on her bunda a little, and it is the best pillow I ever had : So back to our story. I fucked my muse slowly at first and gradually faster and my penis was singing from pleasure. It felt SO GOOD! Was like wow! I need to take her with me in my bag when I travel! I need this! I need her in my life! She should come live with me! Viviane, please come live with me!

So I fucked her, and I fucked her, and I couldn't tell whether her bunda and thighs D4 looked better in front of me or in the reflection on the mirror. She is sexy, sexy, sexy, sexy!!!!! And she talks sexy and acts sexy and makes sex with her an epiphany! An experience out of this world. It makes you feel that you accomplished all you need to accomplish in your life, and can rest happy! Afterwards I switched to fucking her bunda in the same position. She has no problems, It is very easy to fuck her and she loves it! I put her knees together and fucked her ass faster and faster and faster!!!! It was a concentration of pleasure, I just wanted to bite a piece of her to take with me, I cannot live without her, and that's the truth! I said I want to ejaculate in your bunda and she said that she loves it! I socei faster and faster and it got hotter and hotter and I sweat from the intensity and I felt teleported in another dimension and I loved it and I loved it and I ejaculated!!!! She is so good!!!! SHE IS So good!

I hugged her and kept breathing to recuperate after our sport session! From now on, she is my personal trainer when I am in brazil : She really knows how to do it slowly when I want to, and gives me a real training when I want to!

I ended up enjoying every moment with her on the 26, 30, 31st of may and 2nd of June! I am too tired to tell the accounts of today yet but all that you should know is that she brings the passion since day one!!! Best woman ever!

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Holland Connect
06-02-08, 21:15
Well, if you wanna check out her pictures, this is her website www.vivianesensual.com

For those that want their stuff translated, hehe, you can go here
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://www.vivianesensual.com&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&langpair=pt%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

And since it is SO UNBELIEVEABLE you can check out what other ppl said about her in the brazilian forum (she is one of the top Rio GDPs there)
Translated for your enjoyment

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://www.gpguia.net/phpbb/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=63794&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&langpair=pt%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

Holland Connect
06-02-08, 21:16
I have been looking for the sushi restaurant Rakan (www.rakan.com.br) does anyone know whether it still exists or anything? I called them but the phone numbers don't work. I want a place where sushi is as good as Haku San without needing to go all the way to the centro.

Thanks!

Rio Bob
06-02-08, 21:25
In the category of drama (and there is always drama), a bi- or tri-lingual girl accused me of hiding my ability to speak Portuguese. I suppose I happened on a Spanish sentence that sounded exactly like the native language. But, there was no convincing her, or the other 5 girls that gave me extreme attitude as we made our way out of the closing bar. Even in street clothes while waiting for the bus, they lit into me for deceiving them. I still can’t figure out what my angle could have been in lying about such a thing, but I will contemplate further.

How about eavesdropping ? They could have thought that because you didn’t reveal to them that you know the lingo that you were trying to eavesdrop on their conversations. Maybe they were talking about you.

Mervon
06-03-08, 01:17
Hello Gents,

Did'nt realize there were so many ISG folks down here this week. I was in Help last night too and it was slow. There were a few gems to be had, but nothing like Nov 06. Back then there must have been 300+ girls in there. I have been sticking to the ternas mostly, but will likely check out the help scene again for sh!ts and giggles!!

Anybody seen Marcela?

Chris H
06-03-08, 02:00
I see the smoking ban is up and running , no more smoking inside bars. Makes it interesting in the boates, half the women are now hanging round outside the door. Lets you see whats available before you go in. Not sure how this will affect the termas' , will we be seeing crowds off men in bathrobes having a smoke in the street?

Does this include HELP?

Edward M
06-03-08, 02:27
I see the smoking ban is up and running , no more smoking inside bars. Makes it interesting in the boates, half the women are now hanging round outside the door. Lets you see whats available before you go in. Not sure how this will affect the termas' , will we be seeing crowds off men in bathrobes having a smoke in the street?I hope the ban applies to termas although something makes me doubt it. Can anyone verify?

Amerioca
06-03-08, 02:29
Does this include HELP?

Are you serious? No smoking? When did this happen?

Rock Harders
06-03-08, 04:59
Mongers-
I was in both HELP and BARBARELLA'S this past weekend, and both were completely NON-SMOKING. Help now has an outdoor smoking area located in the back left corner of the disco, behind the far-side bar and to the left of the bathrooms. The girls of Barbarella's were outside in front smoking their cigarettes. I observed one bouncer at Help giving one of the garotas shot for lighting up inside.
Suerte,
Rock Harders

Java Man
06-03-08, 05:45
Started Saturday. It's a local ordinance. Porcão in Ipanema was fined $R2 thousand on Saturday when the municipal law that prohibits smoking in enclosed public premises, public or private, entered into force. A customer was found smoking within the restaurant.
Looks like it's targeting the businesses instead of the smoker.
http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mat/2008/06/01/churrascaria_multada_por_nao_cumprir_lei_do_fumo-546611446.asp

http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mat/2008/06/02/fumodromos_sao_mantidos_no_rio_apesar_de_proibicao-546629578.asp

Dub624
06-03-08, 07:01
I see the smoking ban is up and running , no more smoking inside bars. Makes it interesting in the boates, half the women are now hanging round outside the door. Lets you see whats available before you go in. Not sure how this will affect the termas' , will we be seeing crowds off me tn in bathrobes having a smoke in the street?As a non smoler, I think this is great. I rate smoking as one of the biggest hazards of Rio. This will definitely reduce my Vizine usage.

Piper1
06-03-08, 10:32
After much reading here, looking forward to the Rio-newbie trip next month. Have to say thanks to the members who posted incredibly useful info (and great reads), including Bubba Boy, Sperto, Christopherd, Loso, Euro100, Tung and many others.

I was reading up on Vila Mimosa last night - that is a must-visit place on my list (as well as 4x4 and other termas, Help, a swinger's club or two, and maybe a beach pick-up if I'm lucky and if there's actually any girls on the beach in July). Along with a few days work and a bit of sight-seeing, that should keep me busy enough for the seven days.

A quick question: what is the best way to get to and get around Vila Mimosa? Local cab? (and how long does it take to get there from Copa?)

BTW - in case this hasn't been posted before - some rare old footage of VM:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=391_1179346815
(If the link doesn't work due to my proxy server, just google: Vila Mimosa rare footage).

Perkele
06-03-08, 12:13
BTW - in case this hasn't been posted before - some rare old footage of VM:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=391_1179346815
(If the link doesn't work due to my proxy server, just google: Vila Mimosa rare footage).

Very interesting. Though this not today's VM. 1953 VM was in different place. If I'm not wrong VM moved to its current location in early 1990.

Piper1
06-03-08, 12:32
Very interesting. Though this not today's VM. 1953 VM was in different place. If I'm not wrong VM moved to its current location in early 1990.Apparently it moved neigborhoods twice in the 1990s. Here's a snip from a 1996 news article 'Adios Vila Mimosa'.

RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil - Near dawn, the last of countless clients had gone, and the bulldozers came to evict the working women of Vila Mimosa. Within hours yesterday, the oldest red-light district in South America was extinct. As wrecking crews moved in to raze the compound of 67 brick-and-board shacks where some 1,500 prostitutes made their living, a part of Brazil's history passed with it. Vila Mimosa was all that remained of a sprawling Bohemian district that dated back to the 1700s, when Brazil was a Portuguese colony, and Rio was its capital.

Far from the city's center, the district then was in an undesirable and unhealthful region known as the "zona do mangue," Portuguese for mangrove zone... Many of the women of Vila Mimosa lost all they owned when the bulldozers came. "I don't where I'll go now, or what I'll do," said Edith Alves, a regular of Vila Mimosa. "This was all I had." "Ah, you could make good money here," said Claudia, who couldn't remember how many clients she entertained on a busy night. "Friday and Saturday alone were enough to make your week."
On those nights, thousands of construction workers would cram the dead-end street, lined with one-story houses in faded orange, yellow, red, green and blue. Each house had a narrow ladder leading up to a rickety loft with a bed, where a 10-minute "programa" cost $15 to $20.

"Those who had money went to Copacabana. Those who didn't came to Vila Mimosa to find happiness," said Gilberto dos Santos, who sold sandwiches to clients of Vila Mimosa. Cristina de Oliveira sat glumly on a stoop, staring at the litter of a life: a pair of abandoned shoes, keys to vanished doors, a broken bed frame. "It's not fair to put us in the street," she said. "For better or worse, people need this."

MagiDish
06-03-08, 14:08
Mongers,

Be careful, this is a complete lie and a trap that I also fell into.


Words don't exist to describe this muse. I came to Brazil having very high expectations, and I thought there are many beautiful women in Brazil, but Viviane is of a much much much higher caliber. I would say that being with her is an experience that changes your life. Some people escalate the Mount Everest or go to the moon to feel their life is complete, but the true way to do it is actually to be with Viviane, and I am not joking.

I looked aroung GPguia and looked around the best GPs here. Viviane caught my attention so much that I planned to meet her a week already before arriving to Brazil. The way she talks is very sensual, very sexy, you know you are talking to a women full of feminine hormones. And she is a beautiful woman with an amazing personality, I actually spent around 20 minutes talking to her two times (a total of 40 minutes). The first time I just was calling around GPs to know about them, their personality, the way they are. The second time is because after talking to the other ones and feeling how many are bureaucratic, or not very accomodating, or suspicious, or not as good, I knew that I had to call Viviane back.

I arrived here to Rio and went directly to sleep. The next day, as I told her, I called her back at 09h30 of the morning to confirm our encounter that will happen at 12h00 (mid-day). I knew this was going to be exceptional, and I wanted to take advantage of every minute I passed with her, so I asked her to bring some of her sexy clothes.
She arrived in front of my apartment, and I went down to pick her up from the driver's car. Wow, Wow, Wow, it is a vision to be seen. She is SO BEAUTIFUL, a classy young thing with beautiful face, beautiful hair, and exceptional body. I know that brazilian women have bunda, but truly this is the ultimate bunda. And her thighs, did I talk about her thighs? I mean her thighs!!!!! I walked her to the door and everyone around us stopped just to look at her, she is incredible! Some even were yelling "Creu" because she is reminiscent of the girl that dances in Creu but with better ass in my opinion which is something unbelievable! This is not joke guys. I really know that she is the one and only true world wonder. Something that you never though existed, and thought she would need photoshop to look like that, but she is all natural like that!

I never thought women like her exist. She is note physically, and her personality is just great note.

She arrived, and made me feel directly at ease, like I knew her since before, like we are used to having the best sex of our lives together! We kissed a lot, she is such a good kisser! And I adored caressing her beautiful face, her beautiful hair, her beautiful perfect skin, and just grabbing that Bunda. Every time she stood up or I just see her bunda, I have a natural urge to just jump on it and grab it and just be smothered under it, she smells so good! And did I talk about her pink pussy and tight asshole? Did I talk about her small small waist? I love it that when you see only her upper part, you would never imagine she has such a fit and big thighs and ass! She is fit and small in the upper part, and kadooooom big and fit in the lower part, just like in your dreams!

We kissed a lot, A LOT, and we hugged and she danced for me, and I was ready very fast. It is so great how this super-women inspires me. Even though I was tired, I didn't feel it at all! I was full of energy and all ready and prepared. We talked sexy talks, and she is so passionate and educated. I was ready and I wanted her in all positions. She started wearing the clothes she brought one of the other: WOW she looks AMAZING in shorts, and she told me she uses those shorts to run around on the beacy?!?!?!? Lucky people those that are arounf when this happens! You really really really have to see her in shorts! You will never forget it, you will want to take a picture and put it as a background on your phone and computer! Or her in jeans. I mean what is that!!!!! It is more than great! More than incredible! I can't believe she walks around in those jeans, it must be a crime somewhere because it will distract the whole road! She danced for me using many of her clothes, talked sexy to me (I really love how she talks, it makes your penis really hard even before you see anything, she is very good at this! ). We went directly to the shower and I enjoyed touched all of her beautiful sun-tanned skin while I used the liquid soap on her. Her skin is so soft, and she smells so good, and she kissed and hugs and touches me and washed me SO WELL! I couldn't wait so I took her to the bed. We started and her pussy is wet and tight! I used my imported condoms because I heard the brazilian condoms are not that good. You can feel how warm and tight her pussy is, and the walls of her vagina SO MUCH! I fucked her PPMM exceptional while I grabbed her bunda, I fucked her D4, she went on top of me on both directions, and then I finished fucking her tight asshole flat-doggy (The position she is in when she is tanning on the beach) and she didn't have any problems when I started fast! I was so tight and good and everything that you could imagine and that you can never imagine at the same time! She was begging me to feed her my sperm (she said she needs it, she loves swallowing and I love that about her!) I came in her mouth and she swallowing it all and pleasure was on her face.

Having a woman next to you, and exceptional woman like Viviane, that is so full of female hormones does things to you! This never happened to me but after ejaculating, my penis stayed duro! It didn't want to go down at all! I asked her to go to the shower again because I love showering with her! She is so nice and great and lovely! And still my penis stayed duro, I couldn't beleive it, she has such a great effect on me! That is why we went for the second time again! She started sucking my dick, and wow she is good! She does it so well and nice and warm and full of pleasure that you could just have an appointment with her just for this!

And then doggy again but this time with her legs together. WOW!!!!! I fucked her, fucked her. fucked her! I couldn't tell which one is tighter her pussy or her ass!!! I felt that I will come soon so I asked her to fuck D Pe in front of the mirror. WOW, I LOVE LOOKING AT MYSELF FUCKING HER ON THE MIRROR.

I came again in her mouth and she loved it!!!!! I was so happy and tired after it that after we hugged for a while and I started to fall asleep, I asked her to go but I will miss her. When she stood up and I could see her bunda again, I felt full of energy again!!!!!! She is so beautiful with her face and bunda and skin abd beautiful tight breasts and all that! So I stood up and wore my clothes and went walking around in the streets with her until the driver's car. EVERYONE stopped doing everything and just looked at her like "Who is that?!?!?!?!?!?!" I adore her SO MUCH!

I went home and slept all happy, and for the next few days I had sex with other highly graded GPs from GPguia, went to the terma 4X4, and went to the beach but after Viviane, my standard of quality became so much higher! I couldn't not find or think of another women that matches how amazing VIVIANE is! You really need to at least be with her once, I guarantee that you will think that you wasted your life before her. It is a great and calming feeling to know that you can enjoy her company and all you need is just one phone call! You will not have any problems with any other women because you will know that they do not vale a pena, Viviane is much better and you can have her!

After trying other women, I knew all I needed is Viviane. I called her back and said that I have three days left in my trip and I want you to be with me during these three days! I know I will not find anyone better than her!

Today I did my second encounter with her which was amazing! She came over to my apartment all linda and gostoza! I bought food for us, and enjoyed hugging her while eating and she fed me and gave me juice mmmm..... I share a secret with you, her favorite juice is orange juice :)

I couldn't eat much because I was busy kissing her all over her perfect skin. She tastes so good, smells so great, and is all formosa when she sits and when she stands!

I stopped in the middle of the meal and said I can't wait anymore! Let's go to bed! I loved seeing her walk in front of me in a thong, she walks SO SEXY and her bunda is a vision to be seen!

We went to the bed, and we started the amazing time! Every time I looked at her I was thinking "WOW! I am next to this hot young thing jeitosa gostosa?" It is amazing how when I am next to her I have SO MUCH energy, but with other women I felt the effects of being in a different fuseau horario. I had so much energy although I did not sleep the night before! I think my brain recognizes that she is exceptional, that this does not normally happen to other human beings, so it gives me energy pushes to take advantage of this!

I fucked her tight pussy D4 looking at her in the eyes and enjoying the sexy talk we have together. She was enjoying it as much as I was loving it! She is so hot! Just how life is supposed to be and how life should be! I enjoyed her pussy and then came in her mouth and she loved every second of it! Of course, she swallowed!

After this I layed next to her for a bit. After it, she wore her sleeping gown and she is SO SEXY AND HOT! I just jumped and got fully of energy again which never happens normally! The vision of her bunda just made me wanna bury my face in it, and then I used her bunda as a pillow, and it felt SO GOOD!

Very fast I was ready again, amazed that I can be ready again while I was tired, and put a condom. This time I wanted to enjoy her bunda, so I put it in, and it was so easy with no problems! I fucked her ass again, and again, and again, and socai and she loved it! It was so tight my penis felt in heaven I was like wow! And then she started doing anal pompoarismo. It was AMAZING! She said I can come in her ass if I liked but that she would aodre it if I gave her my sperm to swallow! When I was almost going to ejaculate, I went out of her ass, and looking at her perfect breasts, I wanted to fuck them espanhola. I fucked her breasts, and it felt so good, and she talked to me sexy, and she was looking at me with the look in her eyes full of lust! It was sooooo good!!!!!! I loved fucking those beautiful perky perfect breasts looking at her face de gatinha. Very beautiful! When it was time to ejaculate, I started fucking her mouth and I came inside her mouth while she swallowed everything!!! I love it!!!
We hugged for a while, talked for a while, felt like I knew her for ever and felt very happy that the next day she will be here! I loved it how she walked aroung my apartment naked, how sexy she talks, and how great it feels to be around her!!!

In final, if you want a yound women with perfect big thighs and ass, and branca features, and that has perfect markinha de bikini, that knows how to have sex like nobody else can, that loves to swallow and be fucked in her pussy and ass and espanhola, and if you want to really change your perspective on life and want a GP that when you remember her you will be smiling all happy even when your day is going mal, call Viviane. Leave some for me though guys, I don't want the fila to take all her available time and leave me alone ;P

Face: Perfection! I love her face, her beautiful eyes, sexy lips, beautiful nose, and her hair that looks and smells so good! You will not regret it

Breasts: Perky and round and tight and nice! Loves how they look, how they feel in my mouth, and wrapped around my penis. SHE IS PERFECT! A COMPLETE PACKAGE!

Waist: So small and fininha, I love holding it D4, it is so amazing!
Bunda and Coixa: Exactly how a real woman should be, formosa, with perfect shaped bunda and coixas and beautiful skinn all great! And I love how the color of her pussy and asshole are pink! I can sleep in there all day and fuck it all night and love it a lot!

Oral: passionate, good, and she enjoys it so much! Your penis will thank you for this! Nota: perfect!

Vaginal: tight and warm and everything that it should be! Never felt anything as tight as this. Full of sensations using condoms! Loved it!

Anal: Just look at her bund and you will understand that no number and no words are enough to describe how great she does this! JUST PERFECT, MARVILLOUS, AMAZING, WITH POMPOARISMO.

Short version: what are you doing? Just call her and your life will be different, much better because of her! She is the best GP is Brazil, no doubt about it, so you ower this to yourself Try her before she knows that she deserves more than 1000 reais/hora. Now we are still getting a cheap price 300 reais / 2 horas + 50 motorista. She vale a lot more than that She is the perfect mixture between GFE and PSE

I think I am in love with her I am SO LUCKY!

28 years, very ponctual, very bonita and gostoa! I could not recommend anything more than her!

31/05/2008

Viviane continues to amaze me. She arrived today all discrete wearing jeans and she looked so beautiful! I walked with her to the apartment holding hands and felt so much passion with her.

We went in, and ate lunch together. Chicken and orange juice for her, she gets satisfaita after eating a small amount : I discovered also that na academia, she lifts 200 kg with her bumbum and legs : I adore all this :

We talked, she is very small and well educated and knows how to converse. Every now and then, I would take out a piece of her clothes because I cannot wait : She is a women full of class and elegance, and she knows how to dress. All of her underwears are so sexy and elegant!

She told me a lot of very interesting facts about herself. She told me that during puberty, her Bunda very fast became 90cm! She told me it looked incredible to be a kid with such a body. She said all the kids at school whenever they see her will just follow her around :

She told me that until now, many tell her that she is not a woman with bunda, but a bunda with a woman attached to it : She is very witty though and with a great personality, so it is a pleasure to just talk to her and spend time with her. She told me something that makes me understand why, as a man, I cannot help it but be incredibly attracted to her as soon as she is close to me! She said that her doctor tells her that she is full of female hormones A LOT more than the normal! That is why as soon as I see her I become crazy! It is a great feeling that you cannot just feel when you see her in pictures. You penis understands these things a lot more than your brain and will point into her direction immediately : She is a lot more of a woman than other women! Trust me, your penis will be ready a lot faster with her : In my case it stayed hard even after I ejaculated!

When I couldn't wait anymore, we went to the bed. We played our favorite game of seeing her change clothes : She has so many sexy clothes, and she knows how to wear them! I appreciated having my own modelling show :

I loved looking at her in front of the mirror. I could see her frontside, with her beautiful face, her formosa body and breasts, and her ass! Did I already talk about her bunda? I mean HER BUNDA!!!!!! Her bunda, her bunda, her bunda! Never seeing anything equal! You owe it to yourself to see her naked at least once. And her D4? I mean her D4! With those thights and the bunda and everything! I miss her so much! Why isn't she here now?!?!?!?! I should call her again!

I played with her hair while she sucked my dick. I asked for it to be slow and she did it so well! You can feel that she is full of lust and loving what she is doing! The way she breaths, the way she moves slower, the way she is horny makes you just wanna bend her over and fuck her like there is no tomorrow! I did that! Put the condom one, no need for lube because her pussy gets wet naturally, she loves sucking penis !
I started fucking her while I grabbed her incredibly small waist. Her bunda is SO CONFORTABLE! I tried sleeping on her bunda a little, and it is the best pillow I ever had : So back to our story. I fucked my muse slowly at first and gradually faster and my penis was singing from pleasure. It felt SO GOOD! Was like wow! I need to take her with me in my bag when I travel! I need this! I need her in my life! She should come live with me! Viviane, please come live with me!

So I fucked her, and I fucked her, and I couldn't tell whether her bunda and thighs D4 looked better in front of me or in the reflection on the mirror. She is sexy, sexy, sexy, sexy!!!!! And she talks sexy and acts sexy and makes sex with her an epiphany! An experience out of this world. It makes you feel that you accomplished all you need to accomplish in your life, and can rest happy! Afterwards I switched to fucking her bunda in the same position. She has no problems, It is very easy to fuck her and she loves it! I put her knees together and fucked her ass faster and faster and faster!!!! It was a concentration of pleasure, I just wanted to bite a piece of her to take with me, I cannot live without her, and that's the truth! I said I want to ejaculate in your bunda and she said that she loves it! I socei faster and faster and it got hotter and hotter and I sweat from the intensity and I felt teleported in another dimension and I loved it and I loved it and I ejaculated!!!! She is so good!!!! SHE IS So good!

I hugged her and kept breathing to recuperate after our sport session! From now on, she is my personal trainer when I am in brazil : She really knows how to do it slowly when I want to, and gives me a real training when I want to!

I ended up enjoying every moment with her on the 26, 30, 31st of may and 2nd of June! I am too tired to tell the accounts of today yet but all that you should know is that she brings the passion since day one!!! Best woman ever!

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Bravo
06-03-08, 15:00
Words don't exist to describe this muse. I came to Brazil having very high expectations, and I thought there are many beautiful women in Brazil, but Viviane is of a much much much higher caliber. I would say that being with her is an experience that changes your life. Some people escalate the Mount Everest or go to the moon to feel their life is complete, but the true way to do it is actually to be with Viviane, and I am not joking.

I looked aroung GPguia and looked around the best GPs here. Viviane caught my attention so much that I planned to meet her a week already before arriving to Brazil. The way she talks is very sensual, very sexy, you know you are talking to a women full of feminine hormones. And she is a beautiful woman with an amazing personality, I actually spent around 20 minutes talking to her two times (a total of 40 minutes). The first time I just was calling around GPs to know about them, their personality, the way they are. The second time is because after talking to the other ones and feeling how many are bureaucratic, or not very accomodating, or suspicious, or not as good, I knew that I had to call Viviane back.

I arrived here to Rio and went directly to sleep. The next day, as I told her, I called her back at 09h30 of the morning to confirm our encounter that will happen at 12h00 (mid-day). I knew this was going to be exceptional, and I wanted to take advantage of every minute I passed with her, so I asked her to bring some of her sexy clothes.
She arrived in front of my apartment, and I went down to pick her up from the driver's car. Wow, Wow, Wow, it is a vision to be seen. She is SO BEAUTIFUL, a classy young thing with beautiful face, beautiful hair, and exceptional body. I know that brazilian women have bunda, but truly this is the ultimate bunda. And her thighs, did I talk about her thighs? I mean her thighs!!!!! I walked her to the door and everyone around us stopped just to look at her, she is incredible! Some even were yelling "Creu" because she is reminiscent of the girl that dances in Creu but with better ass in my opinion which is something unbelievable! This is not joke guys. I really know that she is the one and only true world wonder. Something that you never though existed, and thought she would need photoshop to look like that, but she is all natural like that!

I never thought women like her exist. She is note physically, and her personality is just great note.

She arrived, and made me feel directly at ease, like I knew her since before, like we are used to having the best sex of our lives together! We kissed a lot, she is such a good kisser! And I adored caressing her beautiful face, her beautiful hair, her beautiful perfect skin, and just grabbing that Bunda. Every time she stood up or I just see her bunda, I have a natural urge to just jump on it and grab it and just be smothered under it, she smells so good! And did I talk about her pink pussy and tight asshole? Did I talk about her small small waist? I love it that when you see only her upper part, you would never imagine she has such a fit and big thighs and ass! She is fit and small in the upper part, and kadooooom big and fit in the lower part, just like in your dreams!

We kissed a lot, A LOT, and we hugged and she danced for me, and I was ready very fast. It is so great how this super-women inspires me. Even though I was tired, I didn't feel it at all! I was full of energy and all ready and prepared. We talked sexy talks, and she is so passionate and educated. I was ready and I wanted her in all positions. She started wearing the clothes she brought one of the other: WOW she looks AMAZING in shorts, and she told me she uses those shorts to run around on the beacy?!?!?!? Lucky people those that are arounf when this happens! You really really really have to see her in shorts! You will never forget it, you will want to take a picture and put it as a background on your phone and computer! Or her in jeans. I mean what is that!!!!! It is more than great! More than incredible! I can't believe she walks around in those jeans, it must be a crime somewhere because it will distract the whole road! She danced for me using many of her clothes, talked sexy to me (I really love how she talks, it makes your penis really hard even before you see anything, she is very good at this! ). We went directly to the shower and I enjoyed touched all of her beautiful sun-tanned skin while I used the liquid soap on her. Her skin is so soft, and she smells so good, and she kissed and hugs and touches me and washed me SO WELL! I couldn't wait so I took her to the bed. We started and her pussy is wet and tight! I used my imported condoms because I heard the brazilian condoms are not that good. You can feel how warm and tight her pussy is, and the walls of her vagina SO MUCH! I fucked her PPMM exceptional while I grabbed her bunda, I fucked her D4, she went on top of me on both directions, and then I finished fucking her tight asshole flat-doggy (The position she is in when she is tanning on the beach) and she didn't have any problems when I started fast! I was so tight and good and everything that you could imagine and that you can never imagine at the same time! She was begging me to feed her my sperm (she said she needs it, she loves swallowing and I love that about her!) I came in her mouth and she swallowing it all and pleasure was on her face.

Having a woman next to you, and exceptional woman like Viviane, that is so full of female hormones does things to you! This never happened to me but after ejaculating, my penis stayed duro! It didn't want to go down at all! I asked her to go to the shower again because I love showering with her! She is so nice and great and lovely! And still my penis stayed duro, I couldn't beleive it, she has such a great effect on me! That is why we went for the second time again! She started sucking my dick, and wow she is good! She does it so well and nice and warm and full of pleasure that you could just have an appointment with her just for this!

And then doggy again but this time with her legs together. WOW!!!!! I fucked her, fucked her. fucked her! I couldn't tell which one is tighter her pussy or her ass!!! I felt that I will come soon so I asked her to fuck D Pe in front of the mirror. WOW, I LOVE LOOKING AT MYSELF FUCKING HER ON THE MIRROR.

I came again in her mouth and she loved it!!!!! I was so happy and tired after it that after we hugged for a while and I started to fall asleep, I asked her to go but I will miss her. When she stood up and I could see her bunda again, I felt full of energy again!!!!!! She is so beautiful with her face and bunda and skin abd beautiful tight breasts and all that! So I stood up and wore my clothes and went walking around in the streets with her until the driver's car. EVERYONE stopped doing everything and just looked at her like "Who is that?!?!?!?!?!?!" I adore her SO MUCH!

I went home and slept all happy, and for the next few days I had sex with other highly graded GPs from GPguia, went to the terma 4X4, and went to the beach but after Viviane, my standard of quality became so much higher! I couldn't not find or think of another women that matches how amazing VIVIANE is! You really need to at least be with her once, I guarantee that you will think that you wasted your life before her. It is a great and calming feeling to know that you can enjoy her company and all you need is just one phone call! You will not have any problems with any other women because you will know that they do not vale a pena, Viviane is much better and you can have her!

After trying other women, I knew all I needed is Viviane. I called her back and said that I have three days left in my trip and I want you to be with me during these three days! I know I will not find anyone better than her!

Today I did my second encounter with her which was amazing! She came over to my apartment all linda and gostoza! I bought food for us, and enjoyed hugging her while eating and she fed me and gave me juice mmmm..... I share a secret with you, her favorite juice is orange juice :)

I couldn't eat much because I was busy kissing her all over her perfect skin. She tastes so good, smells so great, and is all formosa when she sits and when she stands!

I stopped in the middle of the meal and said I can't wait anymore! Let's go to bed! I loved seeing her walk in front of me in a thong, she walks SO SEXY and her bunda is a vision to be seen!

We went to the bed, and we started the amazing time! Every time I looked at her I was thinking "WOW! I am next to this hot young thing jeitosa gostosa?" It is amazing how when I am next to her I have SO MUCH energy, but with other women I felt the effects of being in a different fuseau horario. I had so much energy although I did not sleep the night before! I think my brain recognizes that she is exceptional, that this does not normally happen to other human beings, so it gives me energy pushes to take advantage of this!

I fucked her tight pussy D4 looking at her in the eyes and enjoying the sexy talk we have together. She was enjoying it as much as I was loving it! She is so hot! Just how life is supposed to be and how life should be! I enjoyed her pussy and then came in her mouth and she loved every second of it! Of course, she swallowed!

After this I layed next to her for a bit. After it, she wore her sleeping gown and she is SO SEXY AND HOT! I just jumped and got fully of energy again which never happens normally! The vision of her bunda just made me wanna bury my face in it, and then I used her bunda as a pillow, and it felt SO GOOD!

Very fast I was ready again, amazed that I can be ready again while I was tired, and put a condom. This time I wanted to enjoy her bunda, so I put it in, and it was so easy with no problems! I fucked her ass again, and again, and again, and socai and she loved it! It was so tight my penis felt in heaven I was like wow! And then she started doing anal pompoarismo. It was AMAZING! She said I can come in her ass if I liked but that she would aodre it if I gave her my sperm to swallow! When I was almost going to ejaculate, I went out of her ass, and looking at her perfect breasts, I wanted to fuck them espanhola. I fucked her breasts, and it felt so good, and she talked to me sexy, and she was looking at me with the look in her eyes full of lust! It was sooooo good!!!!!! I loved fucking those beautiful perky perfect breasts looking at her face de gatinha. Very beautiful! When it was time to ejaculate, I started fucking her mouth and I came inside her mouth while she swallowed everything!!! I love it!!!
We hugged for a while, talked for a while, felt like I knew her for ever and felt very happy that the next day she will be here! I loved it how she walked aroung my apartment naked, how sexy she talks, and how great it feels to be around her!!!

In final, if you want a yound women with perfect big thighs and ass, and branca features, and that has perfect markinha de bikini, that knows how to have sex like nobody else can, that loves to swallow and be fucked in her pussy and ass and espanhola, and if you want to really change your perspective on life and want a GP that when you remember her you will be smiling all happy even when your day is going mal, call Viviane. Leave some for me though guys, I don't want the fila to take all her available time and leave me alone ;P

Face: Perfection! I love her face, her beautiful eyes, sexy lips, beautiful nose, and her hair that looks and smells so good! You will not regret it

Breasts: Perky and round and tight and nice! Loves how they look, how they feel in my mouth, and wrapped around my penis. SHE IS PERFECT! A COMPLETE PACKAGE!

Waist: So small and fininha, I love holding it D4, it is so amazing!
Bunda and Coixa: Exactly how a real woman should be, formosa, with perfect shaped bunda and coixas and beautiful skinn all great! And I love how the color of her pussy and asshole are pink! I can sleep in there all day and fuck it all night and love it a lot!

Oral: passionate, good, and she enjoys it so much! Your penis will thank you for this! Nota: perfect!

Vaginal: tight and warm and everything that it should be! Never felt anything as tight as this. Full of sensations using condoms! Loved it!

Anal: Just look at her bund and you will understand that no number and no words are enough to describe how great she does this! JUST PERFECT, MARVILLOUS, AMAZING, WITH POMPOARISMO.

Short version: what are you doing? Just call her and your life will be different, much better because of her! She is the best GP is Brazil, no doubt about it, so you ower this to yourself Try her before she knows that she deserves more than 1000 reais/hora. Now we are still getting a cheap price 300 reais / 2 horas + 50 motorista. She vale a lot more than that She is the perfect mixture between GFE and PSE

I think I am in love with her I am SO LUCKY!

28 years, very ponctual, very bonita and gostoa! I could not recommend anything more than her!

31/05/2008

Viviane continues to amaze me. She arrived today all discrete wearing jeans and she looked so beautiful! I walked with her to the apartment holding hands and felt so much passion with her.

We went in, and ate lunch together. Chicken and orange juice for her, she gets satisfaita after eating a small amount : I discovered also that na academia, she lifts 200 kg with her bumbum and legs : I adore all this :

We talked, she is very small and well educated and knows how to converse. Every now and then, I would take out a piece of her clothes because I cannot wait : She is a women full of class and elegance, and she knows how to dress. All of her underwears are so sexy and elegant!

She told me a lot of very interesting facts about herself. She told me that during puberty, her Bunda very fast became 90cm! She told me it looked incredible to be a kid with such a body. She said all the kids at school whenever they see her will just follow her around :

She told me that until now, many tell her that she is not a woman with bunda, but a bunda with a woman attached to it : She is very witty though and with a great personality, so it is a pleasure to just talk to her and spend time with her. She told me something that makes me understand why, as a man, I cannot help it but be incredibly attracted to her as soon as she is close to me! She said that her doctor tells her that she is full of female hormones A LOT more than the normal! That is why as soon as I see her I become crazy! It is a great feeling that you cannot just feel when you see her in pictures. You penis understands these things a lot more than your brain and will point into her direction immediately : She is a lot more of a woman than other women! Trust me, your penis will be ready a lot faster with her : In my case it stayed hard even after I ejaculated!

When I couldn't wait anymore, we went to the bed. We played our favorite game of seeing her change clothes : She has so many sexy clothes, and she knows how to wear them! I appreciated having my own modelling show :

I loved looking at her in front of the mirror. I could see her frontside, with her beautiful face, her formosa body and breasts, and her ass! Did I already talk about her bunda? I mean HER BUNDA!!!!!! Her bunda, her bunda, her bunda! Never seeing anything equal! You owe it to yourself to see her naked at least once. And her D4? I mean her D4! With those thights and the bunda and everything! I miss her so much! Why isn't she here now?!?!?!?! I should call her again!

I played with her hair while she sucked my dick. I asked for it to be slow and she did it so well! You can feel that she is full of lust and loving what she is doing! The way she breaths, the way she moves slower, the way she is horny makes you just wanna bend her over and fuck her like there is no tomorrow! I did that! Put the condom one, no need for lube because her pussy gets wet naturally, she loves sucking penis !
I started fucking her while I grabbed her incredibly small waist. Her bunda is SO CONFORTABLE! I tried sleeping on her bunda a little, and it is the best pillow I ever had : So back to our story. I fucked my muse slowly at first and gradually faster and my penis was singing from pleasure. It felt SO GOOD! Was like wow! I need to take her with me in my bag when I travel! I need this! I need her in my life! She should come live with me! Viviane, please come live with me!

So I fucked her, and I fucked her, and I couldn't tell whether her bunda and thighs D4 looked better in front of me or in the reflection on the mirror. She is sexy, sexy, sexy, sexy!!!!! And she talks sexy and acts sexy and makes sex with her an epiphany! An experience out of this world. It makes you feel that you accomplished all you need to accomplish in your life, and can rest happy! Afterwards I switched to fucking her bunda in the same position. She has no problems, It is very easy to fuck her and she loves it! I put her knees together and fucked her ass faster and faster and faster!!!! It was a concentration of pleasure, I just wanted to bite a piece of her to take with me, I cannot live without her, and that's the truth! I said I want to ejaculate in your bunda and she said that she loves it! I socei faster and faster and it got hotter and hotter and I sweat from the intensity and I felt teleported in another dimension and I loved it and I loved it and I ejaculated!!!! She is so good!!!! SHE IS So good!

I hugged her and kept breathing to recuperate after our sport session! From now on, she is my personal trainer when I am in brazil : She really knows how to do it slowly when I want to, and gives me a real training when I want to!

I ended up enjoying every moment with her on the 26, 30, 31st of may and 2nd of June! I am too tired to tell the accounts of today yet but all that you should know is that she brings the passion since day one!!! Best woman ever!

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You wrote this huge novel dedicated to this woman and you dont post one picture or a link to her website ad?

Holland Connect
06-03-08, 15:12
Well, if you wanna check out her pictures, this is her website www.vivianesensual.com

For those that want their stuff translated, hehe, you can go here
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://www.vivianesensual.com&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&langpair=pt%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

And since it is SO UNBELIEVEABLE you can check out what other ppl said about her in the brazilian forum (she is one of the top Rio GDPs there)
Translated for your enjoyment

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://www.gpguia.net/phpbb/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=63794&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&langpair=pt%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_toolsNo problems Bravo. I alredy pasted the links to that incedible woman in one of my messages but I guess it was not clear.

Her website is www.vivianesensual.com Her pictures are there but really she is SO MUCH HOTTER IN REAL LIFE! I told her she should make a video of herself because it shows better how she really is, just incredible.

I am leaving Rio in a few hours. I couldn't resist but spend the whole of yesterday and last night with her and it was amazing. You will see in my upcoming report on these days although what more can I say than what I have already said? If you want to get a feeling for how she is, just call her, she is a great person to talk to and very educated. She was a dancarina and she has a body and face and attitude and wittiness to die for!

In my quote there is the link that translates immediately her website to english so that you don't have to worry about that.

El Greco
06-03-08, 15:37
You wrote this huge novel dedicated to this woman and you dont post one picture or a link to her website ad?

One post upwards from his original post he did post all the info.

Here you go

http://www.riosexsite.net/d_pagina.asp?c=387&n=Viviane

http://www.vivianesensual.com/

After such a report she is a must for me next time in RIO. Enjoy her until then.

El Greco

El Austriaco
06-03-08, 16:18
http://www.riosexsite.net/d_pagina.asp?c=387&n=Viviane

http://www.vivianesensual.com/

After such a report she is a must for me next time in RIO. Enjoy her until then.

El Greco

Just for info (from GPGuia.net), since her rates get somewhat lost in the original lengthy post by Holland Connect (had to read them three times to find them) and her website doesn't specify prices. From a recent post by a guy on May 26, 2008:

R$ 200.00 for 1 hour, R$ 300 for 2 hours, plus R$ 50.00 for the driver.

And another one (May 24, 2008)

R$ 300.00 (the girl for 2 hours) + R$ 100.00 (extra hour) = R$ 450.00, we stayed together for 3 hours. Travel R$ 50.00 (the garota has her own driver with a fixed rate)

And for daily rates/travel (post dated May 16, 2008)

R$ 1,000.00 per day - 3 days R$ 3,000.00
Plus expenses, of course.

Those of you who will check out GPGuia.net will notice that the most recent entries on her performance are Portuguese versions of the stories posted here by Holland Connect. Just something to keep in mind (especially for those like me who got the impression that this whole post just sounded a loooooooot more like a sales pitch rather than a report).

EA

Holland Connect
06-03-08, 16:35
Just for info (from GPGuia.net), since her rates get somewhat lost in the original lengthy post by Holland Connect (had to read them three times to find them) and her website doesn't specify prices. From a recent post by a guy on May 26, 2008:

R$ 200.00 for 1 hour, R$ 300 for 2 hours, plus R$ 50.00 for the driver.

And another one (May 24, 2008)

R$ 300.00 (the girl for 2 hours) + R$ 100.00 (extra hour) = R$ 450.00, we stayed together for 3 hours. Travel R$ 50.00 (the garota has her own driver with a fixed rate)

And for daily rates/travel (post dated May 16, 2008)

R$ 1,000.00 per day - 3 days R$ 3,000.00
Plus expenses, of course.

Those of you who will check out GPGuia.net will notice that the most recent entries on her performance are Portuguese versions of the stories posted here by Holland Connect. Just something to keep in mind (especially for those like me who got the impression that this whole post just sounded a loooooooot more like a sales pitch rather than a report).

EAHey EA,

Yes those are the rates. I paid for last night alone though 1000 R. These are not sales pitches, she is truly great but I understand how it could sound like it: smile: I posted my reports also in GPGuia. I actually discovered her through there and I would not be stupid to link to my own reports in GPGuia if I thought there is anything wrong with that. I learnt a lot from that forum, as I did from here, and I am contributing back that is all.

I put both the english and the translated to portuguese (through babelfish) versions of my encounter, and the moderators there deleted the english versions.

Enjoy Rio! It is sad to know It is my last hour in my apartment and the last few hours in this beautiful country.

El Austriaco
06-03-08, 16:47
A quick question: what is the best way to get to and get around Vila Mimosa? Local cab? (and how long does it take to get there from Copa?)
VM is roughly in the area of Maracanã stadium/Quinta da Boa Vista in Zona Norte, more or less.

For a newcomer, it's probably easiest to take a cab from Zona Sul, which should run more or less R$ 25.00 these days. Once you get out of the Rebouças tunnel in the Rio Comprido area, you are more than halfway there. Travel time depends on traffic conditions and which area of Zona Sul you are traveling from, of course, but should generally be 20 to 30 minutes.

Public buses and metro are another option. By metro, the station to get off would be São Cristovão. Take a look at this post by Sperto, which explains (shows) how to walk from there: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=663532&postcount=4656

As you can see from this map, VM is not all that big, so while you are there, there is no need for transportation, and just walking around is best.

For public buses, I think Christopherd has explained how to get to VM, but can't locate the info right now. Maybe Christopherd can repost :)

Hope this helps,

EA

Piper1
06-03-08, 17:06
El Austriaco,

Thanks - very practical and useful info. Amazing that you found my one-line question from today buried amongst the novella twice published today. ;)

cheers

Piper

MagiDish
06-03-08, 18:13
This is a fare report about her from gpgia.

I am sorry thet I did not see it befor I marked her .

"Anal: Yes Oral Without: Yes Beija: Yes

Após ler vários relatos positivos sobre Viviane aqui no GPGuia resolvi marcar um programa com ela. After reading several positive reports on Viviane GPGuia decided mark here in a program with it. O TD foi realizado no dia 16/05/2008. The TD was held on 16/05/2008.

O atendimento ao telefone foi perfeito. The customer service phone was perfect. Foi atenciosa ao telefone, me explicou claramente sobre o preço e forma do atendimento. He was courteous on the phone, I explained clearly on the price and form of care.

Ela chegou 20 minutos após o combinado, atraso que considero aceitável. She arrived 20 minutes after the combined, behind which I consider acceptable. Ao abrir a porta fiquei decepcionado. By opening the door I was disappointed. Ela é muito mais velha do que os 27 anos anunciados, tem pelo menos uns 35. She is much older than the 27 years announced, has at least a 35. A pele dela está toda manchada de tanto tomar sol. The skin of it all is tarnished, both sunbathe. A moça adentrou o recinto, sentei na cama e ela foi logo sentando no meu colo. The girl adentrou the site, sat in bed and she was just sitting in my lap.

De fato ela é extremamente atenciosa, faz de tudo para agradar e esse é o motivo de eu não negativar a moça. In fact it is extremely courteous, does everything to please and that is why I do not negativar the girl. Ao sentar no meu colo comecei a alisar as coxas dela. To sit on my lap I began to smooth the thighs it. Percebi que não eram lisas, não estou falando de celulite (que ela tem muito sim mas isso não me incomoda), tinham pequenas bolinhas, uma espécie de verruga só que sem o aspecto enrrugado das verrugas. I realised I was not smooth, I am not talking about cellulite (which it has so much but that's not me), had small balls, a kind of wart only enrrugado that without the appearance of warts. Isso me deixou bem frustrado. That left me frustrated as well. Ao tirar a roupa, percebi que na aureola de um dos seios (agora não me lembro se era o esquerdo ou o direito) ela também tinha uma dessas bolinhas, isso inviabilizou a possibilidade de eu chupar os seios dela. When taking the clothes, realized that the aureola of one of the breasts (now I do not remember whether it was the left or the right) it also had one of those balls, it prevented the possibility that I suck the breast of it.

A moça então partiu para o boquete que de fato, como em relatos anteriores, é molhado e sem capote. The girl then left for the boquete that in fact, as in previous reports, is wet and without capote. Muito bom o boquete dela. Thank the good boquete it. Quando eu estava quase gozando, pedi que ela parasse um pouco porque não queria gozar naquela hora. When I was almost enjoying, asked that it settled a bit because I would not enjoy that time. Ela então ficou de quatro na minha frente com a cara colada no lençol, só o bundão para cima e enfiou o dedo no cú. She was then four in front of me with the guy stuck in the water, only the bundão up and enfiou the finger in cú. Realmente a cena foi bonita. Actually the scene was beautiful. Ela tem um bundão eo cuzinho bonito. She has a bundão and cuzinho beautiful. Resolvi meter a mão também. Resolvi put his hand too. Enfiei o dedão da mão esquerda na buceta eo dedão da mão direita no cu dela. Enfiei the dedão the left hand in buceta and dedão the bottom right hand in it. Pude notar que a buceta dela fica molhada rapidamente. I have noted that it is wet buceta quickly.

Pedi então que ela encapuzasse meu pau e ficasse novamente naquela posição, avisei que queria comer o cu dela. Then she asked encapuzasse my stick and put in that position again, warned that wanted to eat the bottom of it. Fui prontamente atendido. I was promptly attended. Ela lambuzou o cuzinho com lubrificante e ficou na posição que pedi. She lambuzou the cuzinho with lubricant and was in position to ask. Enfiei a piroca sem dó. Enfiei the piroca without dó. Ficamos naquela posição até eu gozar. We're in that position until I enjoy.

Tendo posto o leite para fora, ela retirou a camisinha com todo cuidado e eu fui tomar banho. Having put the milk out, she withdrew the condom with all care and I was bathing. Voltei do banho, paguei a conta e fomos embora. I came back from the bath, paid the bill and went away.

Jake993
06-03-08, 18:40
This type of thing just doesn't happen in Europe. It is much more of commercial transaction.

You make a very good point there BB. I don't know if it's cultural or what. But it's hard to beat the GFE that you get from the GDPs. While it may all be just an act, they seems to have mastered the art of the illusion and, if only for a brief while, you feel like a King.

That element just seems to be missing the from the repertoire of the European girls. The Russian girls are on the right track but still, the post coital period still seems a tad clinical when compared to the girls from Brazil.

Maybe that's why we are seeing so many Brasileiras showing up in Europe.

El Austriaco
06-03-08, 19:00
Mongers,

Be careful, this is a complete lie and a trap that I also fell into.
Care to elaborate?

EA

Bubba Boy
06-03-08, 19:38
When I started to read the report I got the impression a woman wrote it. Men and women write very differently, particularly about sex. Adding to this first concern, the particular poster has only 7 posts, all are about this particular vivian - another doubt is raised. I also note other members here with a good deal of experience, also have a doubts.

Adding to this, why would anybody bother to pay quite high rates for a 28 year old GDP of average looks in Rio. You can get much cuter, younger girls, with excellent service for less.

To sum, if it looks and smells like shit, it probably is shit.

My opinion - fake.

Bubba Boy
06-03-08, 19:40
He even put his own post in the reports of distinction section? Hey, I thought somebody else had to think a post is worthy to link it up there.

Jackson, can we get this crap deleted. It is really spammy?

MagiDish
06-03-08, 21:55
Care to elaborate?

EAEA

I followed the recommendation at gpgia and met her in April ,great disappointment. from the hundreds of gdp that I had in Rio in the last 4 years she is no more then 4/10

the photos at www.riosexsite.com are completely different then her actual appearance.

take care

Gfechaser
06-03-08, 23:34
This was my first trip to Brazil and I had the best time I have had on a vacation ever. I flew out Friday and arrived in Brazil on Saturday. I immedidatedly hit the ground running. I first met up with Don and Ken of http://www.amerioca.net/ tours. Bubba rated their service highly and I must admit that I agree 100% with his recommendation.

What makes http://www.amerioca.net/ so great is that both Don and Ken are so down to earth. They hooked me up with a tour, picked me up from the airport, and shuttled myself and other fellow mongers around to various termas. However, what I found to be the most serendipitous was the fact that many mongers utilize the Amerioca office as a type of hub to meet, greet, and network with one another. Therefore whether you are an experienced hobbyist or a novice to Brazil, like me, chances are you will meet up with someone cool to hang out with.

But I digress-Later that Saturday night it was decided that a group of us should go to Monte Carlo terma. When I first stepped into the establishment I was a little taken aback. After about an hour of trying to compose myself I took a beautiful girl with a cinnamon tan back for a session. At the end of the session I could tell why so many believe that RIO women provide the best GFE service in the world. I was so enamored by my first session that I decided to session with another girl that sort of resembled Mila Jovovich in the face. This session was fantastic and it was from that moment on that I made a deal with myself to session with at least two girls at each terma I visited for the rest of the entire week.

Now I can not remember if we went to the Brazilian steakhouse after Monte Carlo of the following day but this steakhouse has some of the best meat I have ever tasted. What can only be described as a Brazilian form of dim-sum only potstickers are replaced with large portions of meat, patrons are encouraged to grab appetizers and salad from the salad bar just before you are bombarded with an onslaught of differing shish kebab meats that are brought to the table about every five minutes or so it seemed. They had lamb, pork, beef you name it. Best meat I ever tasted

Ok so after I stuffed myself we all decided to go to Help. Now I was excited to go to Help but after observing the atmosphere for a couple of hours Help just seemed like a place to go if you are still into the club scene and enjoy the thrill of taken women out of the club. Though this novelty can be entertaining I found the termas to have higher quality women that are better service oriented. That being said I picked up a girl and got her back to the hotel and then she wanted the money upfront. I remembered Bubba’s guide and after about an hour of wrangling I kicked her out.

Throughout the course of the rest of the week I went to 4x4 and L’uomo a couple of times, and even managed to hit up Centaurus. I would recommend staying away from Centaurus. What Bubba details about this place in his report are true and the girls are not any better looking than girls at other termas.

Long story short-I can not wait to go back. RIO is amazing. I highly recommend for anyone who has the money to take a trip down there and experience the culture.

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RonnyRon
06-04-08, 00:59
This appears to be a complete sham/spam. Jackson you should make it a rule that ONLY members are allowed to submit reports to the Reports of Distinction section by another member. Pictures on her website are not very interesting. One would think for the prices posted, Holland Connection would actually provide real photos. Hell, I post them and don't pay nearly that much. LOL.

RR

Ardgneas
06-04-08, 02:11
Those of you who will check out GPGuia.net will notice that the most recent entries on her performance are Portuguese versions of the stories posted here by Holland Connect. Just something to keep in mind (especially for those like me who got the impression that this whole post just sounded a loooooooot more like a sales pitch rather than a report).

EAAt those rates it's immaterial to me how good she is particularly for what looks like a flabby bunda. I found it interesting that a Dutch guy typing in English would mistakenly type "confortable" which is reminiscent of the portuguese spelling. All the stranger when the guy appears to be a natural linguist having picked up words such as "POMPOARISMO" on his first trip to Brasil.

Abzsafado
06-04-08, 03:12
At those rates it's immaterial to me how good she is particularly for what looks like a flabby bunda. I found it interesting that a Dutch guy typing in English would mistakenly type "confortable" which is reminiscent of the portuguese spelling. All the stranger when the guy appears to be a natural linguist having picked up words such as "POMPOARISMO" on his first trip to Brasil.
A reportfrom a dutchman with nothing about his fadjer or a smoke and a pancake must be bollocks. Although I must admit it had a very euro porn writing style.

Jan 156
06-04-08, 03:21
He even put his own post in the reports of distinction section? Hey, I thought somebody else had to think a post is worthy to link it up there.

Jackson, can we get this crap deleted. It is really spammy?

I have to agree. For a first trip to Brasil and to get blown over at such incredible length by one average looking GDP and not a sausage about anything else you'd think they were in short supply.

BrasilForever
06-04-08, 04:02
I also was at Erotica this past Saturday night, followed by La Cicciolina. Both were non-smoking, and it was great. I didn't even realize what was going on until the next day when I was not stuffed up due to second hand smoke.

Erotica was pretty crowded initially, but no real stunners. The best looking garota requested for $500 for TLN, I respectfully declined. As the crowd thinned, I then walked to La Cicciolina, which was packed at about 3. 4 a. M. There were some real lookers in there drinking and dancing, quoting $250r to $350r. This was my first time at this bar, and if this is a typical Saturday night, I would definitely repeat. Cost was $25r to enter, and it included two beers. The mosso was pretty cool too! My two cents.