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01-01-08, 02:00
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Abzsafado
01-01-08, 02:02
Hey monger brothers,

I work for an airlines and obviously travel for free or at a minimal. I plan on going to Rio on 26 FEB 08 but there is only one flight per day to Rio on the airline that I plan on traveling on. I was wondering was there a shuttle from GRU ( Sao Paulo) to GIG ( Rio) and if so who runs it? How much? And how often do they run. Since I would have no problem getting into Sao Paulo.
I would seriously consider stopping off in Sao Paulo for a night or two, then fly from Congonhas airport to Santos Dumont, the domestic airports for the two cities. Sao Paulo has some great action.

Bubba Boy
01-01-08, 02:03
first time visitor.

for a first time visitor i would go to rio. first stop would be the termas. the prices are fixed, the quality is high and the service is very high by world standards. i mean where else in the world will most girls call anal and bbbj standard? all for a set price. all receptionist's speak english. the hooks will know enough english to get by or at least have enough experience to be dealing with someone that doesn't speak that much porto. a language course is a great idea. those few words you will know will mean a lot.

after a couple of pops in a terma you will know what the standard is. then you will be less likely to be ripped off by some of the hardened pros in and around copacabana. second visit would have to be help. the biggest disco in south america. full of 200+ pros. prices are not fixed and one needs to be more aware of oneself. most helpee girls speak some english.

carnaval is a great once in a life time experience, but the prices are rediculous, the service way down and not a great time to be mongering. i think a month after carnaval to be a good time, weather is still warm, most of the tourists are gone and the girls are more realistic.

check out the "bubba guide" for a good start to your planning. scroll down the topics and you will see it.

Rio Regular
01-01-08, 02:04
Hey monger brothers,

I work for an airlines and obviously travel for free or at a minimal. I plan on going to Rio on 26 FEB 08 but there is only one flight per day to Rio on the airline that I plan on traveling on. I was wondering was there a shuttle from GRU ( Sao Paulo) to GIG ( Rio) and if so who runs it? How much? And how often do they run. Since I would have no problem getting into Sao Paulo.Parkwood,

There are flights every 20 minutes from CGH to SDU on Varig, Tam, and Gol. It is more expensive and less frequent to go from GRU to GIG. Go to any travel agen in any mall. Their comission is ususally in the price of the ticket so it will be the same price as at the airport. They can find what time and what flight is cheapest. The other option is to go to the airport and shop the three big names for the cheapest flight at that time.

It is also cheaper to fly from CGH to SDU because you don't need to take the cab all the way out to the international airports (GIG/GRU). Both SDU and CGH are the local in town airports and are much closer.

Hope this helps. I will be in Brazil for 3 weeks at the end of January. I would love to catch up with some fun people to go out.

RR

Mr Enternational
01-01-08, 06:22
Parkwood,

There are flights every 20 minutes from CGH to SDU on Varig, Tam, and Gol.

It is also cheaper to fly from CGH to SDU because you don't need to take the cab all the way out to the international airports (GIG/GRU). Both SDU and CGH are the local in town airports and are much closer.
RR
You can also take the bus between airports in Sao Paulo (departs every 30 minutes) or to the Rua Augusta action (departs every 1h10m). The cost is R$27 http://www.airportbusservice.com.br/, as opposed to the R$6 cost of the same type bus service in Rio. http://www.rioonibus.com/guia_de_itinerarios/consultas/consulta-numero.asp?numero=2018&ts=A

One Eyed Man
01-01-08, 17:26
You can also take the bus between airports in Sao Paulo (departs every 30 minutes) or to the Rua Augusta action (departs every 1h10m). The cost is R$27 http://www.airportbusservice.com.br/, as opposed to the R$6 cost of the same type bus service in Rio. http://www.rioonibus.com/guia_de_itinerarios/consultas/consulta-numero.asp?numero=2018&ts=A

The Brazilian airline TAM provides a free shuttle between the domestic and international airports in São Paulo--it's just right outside the counters.

El Austriaco
01-01-08, 23:03
Thanks Austriaco! Question...when is the "Brazilian Winter" you mentioned?

Rodeo
June, July, and August. Just the opposite of winter in the Northern Hemisphere, actually.

EA

Icyhoteric
01-02-08, 03:45
Just for everyone's info, Help was open on the 25th and actually was better than decent, I've never it like the 30th, I saw the fireworks from the runway on the 31st. Termas closed on the 25th and 31st, open the rest of the days, not so busy on the 30th but the 30th was the most ridiculous beach day I have ever seen on planet earth.

Question on two Brazilian songs I'm searching for, the first I hear in the termas and boates and second in every termas, taxi, help, etc.

1) It's an upbeat song and the main lyrics of the chorus are "na praia que normal vesol. Carnival. Futbol (foo-chee-ball)". Kind of fast paced. Does anyone know where I can find the song or perhaps a link on youtube or something?

2) There is this one song, my one friend called it favela trash, my favorite girl and Centaurus said she doesn't like it because it's way too dirty, it has a deep beat and a pretty annoying guys voice. Often going ehhhhhhhhhh. Ehhhhhh. And there's a word repeated over and over and over. And then the same word only it's repeated like 30 times in a row but faster. And again but faster. For those of you familiar with the place, you will probably laugh at how bad of a job I did at explaining this song but you will know it because it is truly ubiquitous. Any help is greatly appreciated. It truly is the Rio anthem of my four trips since Dec 15 2006.

This time around, I've never seen a lineup that could match that of Centaurus on planet earth, but they also jacked it up to 400 R. I didn't care, I spent 7 hours there on Friday. And Saturday. To me, L'Uomo and Solarium were both down, but many of everyone's fav's were there so I was fine, 4x4 was standard, never really a favotire of mine and some key girls missing, Boate Florida was up and is undoubtedly the best bargain in town if you get one of the top girls there, hell I took too but I'm greedy! For 150R for a dupla, I figured I would be silly not too. Monte Carlo was standard, pretty good. But the thing that got me about this trip was the beach, Cesar Park area, the massage girls we know, that everyone probably knows, said they never saw the beach that way, wall to wall all the way to the barracas, and there were no chairs left! Tons of termas girls on the beach, although both of my favs go to "Posto Gay" because they are so hot they get bothered way too much. They told me I could go one day with them, they will protect me because I look like a "Go-go boy" and there are so many hot women there just hiding, but I passed. Maybe If I had a pile of Centaurus girls on me. But no Posto Gay.

Back to Portuguese school, hope to be living there after 3 more bonuses collected, Spring of 2010.

Obrigado por algun ajuda com a musica.

Thanks for any HELPE with the music.

Lancer520
01-02-08, 07:55
So I'm planning my trip to Rio for the third week in february. My dilema is whether to stay in an apartment or a hotel. My last trip i stayed at the Princess Copacabana which I loved but since my last trip, there rates have almost tripled. Does anyone have any suggestions for a good girl friendly, nice place right around the Help area. Or should i stay in an apartment??

Ryjerrob
01-02-08, 07:58
Does anyone have any suggestions for a good girl friendly, nice place right around the Help area. Or should i stay in an apartment??

I've never stayed at a hotel, only apartments. That would be my suggestion. As for which one, that's a whole different story.

ryjer

Jesuscola
01-02-08, 10:01
1) It's an upbeat song and the main lyrics of the chorus are "na praia que normal vesol. Carnival. Futbol (foo-chee-ball)". Kind of fast paced. Does anyone know where I can find the song or perhaps a link on youtube or something?




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u9H8mQDmRc

Insolaçao do Coraçao by Babado Novo

Rio Lover #2
01-02-08, 12:50
2) There is this one song, my one friend called it favela trash, my favorite girl and Centaurus said she doesn't like it because it's way too dirty, it has a deep beat and a pretty annoying guys voice. Often going ehhhhhhhhhh. Ehhhhhh. And there's a word repeated over and over and over. And then the same word only it's repeated like 30 times in a row but faster. And again but faster. For those of you familiar with the place, you will probably laugh at how bad of a job I did at explaining this song but you will know it because it is truly ubiquitous. Any help is greatly appreciated. It truly is the Rio anthem of my four trips since Dec 15 2006.



Is it maybe this one: Mc CATRA - Adulterio?

Jesuscola
01-02-08, 13:31
2) There is this one song, my one friend called it favela trash, my favorite girl and Centaurus said she doesn't like it because it's way too dirty, it has a deep beat and a pretty annoying guys voice. Often going ehhhhhhhhhh. Ehhhhhh. And there's a word repeated over and over and over. And then the same word only it's repeated like 30 times in a row but faster. And again but faster. For those of you familiar with the place, you will probably laugh at how bad of a job I did at explaining this song but you will know it because it is truly ubiquitous. Any help is greatly appreciated. It truly is the Rio anthem of my four trips since Dec 15 2006.



I think this is the song you're talking about:

http://www.mp3tube.net/br/musics/Mc-Crew-Danca-Do-Crew/84481/

Dança do Crew by MC Crew

Rio Lover #2
01-02-08, 14:29
Maybe this one: Mc Catra - Ela quer, ela quer dà.

RL

Ryjerrob
01-02-08, 14:38
I think this is the song you're talking about:

http://www.mp3tube.net/br/musics/Mc-Crew-Danca-Do-Crew/84481/

Dança do Crew by MC Crew


That's the song. I hear it about 10 times a day, everywhere I go.

ryjer

Professor 1
01-02-08, 22:14
So I'm planning my trip to Rio for the third week in february. My dilema is whether to stay in an apartment or a hotel. My last trip i stayed at the Princess Copacabana which I loved but since my last trip, there rates have almost tripled. Does anyone have any suggestions for a good girl friendly, nice place right around the Help area. Or should i stay in an apartment??

I stayed at the Hotel Aproador several years ago. It was nice, and friendly.

Euro100
01-03-08, 00:53
So I'm planning my trip to Rio for the third week in february. My dilema is whether to stay in an apartment or a hotel. My last trip i stayed at the Princess Copacabana which I loved but since my last trip, there rates have almost tripled. Does anyone have any suggestions for a good girl friendly, nice place right around the Help area. Or should i stay in an apartment??

There is a hotel/apartment section in this forum, and you shoudl be able to find a decent recommendation there. To save you the work, I would suggest this one, the Premier Copacabana:
http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=653128
Walking distance to Help. But very very close to L'uomo!

Trippleecks
01-03-08, 12:04
Apartment, Apartment, Apartment...... forget Hotels..

Loso69
01-03-08, 21:30
Apartment Reservation

A few days before I left on this trip, I tried to make reservations for an apartment with a Jacuzzi. David from Gringo Management confirmed the apartment was available, so I paid a deposit through PayPal. When he received the payment, David said he would send me the confirmation letter later that day. Instead, I got an e-mail saying: “I misread my calendar and the apartment is actually not available”. Bloody idiot!

When I enquired about another apartment, David said he’d get back to me tomorrow. Six days later, when I was already in Port Alegre, I finally got a reply. I didn’t like any of the alternatives David had to offer me. Not to waste my precious time, I finally agreed to switch to an apartment that looked damn ugly to me. But David assured me that the place looked much better than the pictures...

Airport Bus

After having a smoke, I hopped on the airport bus to Copacabana. As we were driving along Avenida Atlantica, I was looking where to get off. The bus driver asked for my destination and dropped me off right by my apartment. Door to door service for just 6 BRL.

Apartment

Someone from Gringo Management showed me to my apartment and... left straight away. I didn’t like the Internet pictures and I hated the actual apartment. Apart from a sofa and the bed, the place was totally bare. The walls were totally bare. The bedspread looked as if it was older than I am. This was the kind of place you’d be ashamed to bring a girl to!

There was no safe. When I took a shower... there was no hot water. :mad: But at least the Internet connection worked, so I could complain about this dump.

Karla Models

Phone Card!

By the time I’d unpacked, showered, done some shopping and had dinner, it was too late to visit a Centro termas. Plan B was to call Karla Models. Daiana Lorenz, Cecilia Deruiz & Pamela Negrete were available. But as I was checking out their pictures, I ran out of credit on my phone.

I rushed out to buy a phone card, but couldn’t find a place that was open at this time of night. Pussy was just a phone call away, but I was unable to make the call. Would I strike out again on my first night in town? Not in Rio!

After walking around aimlessly for about an hour, I finally found the coveted phone card. I was saved! I rushed back to my apartment and called Karla Models again. At the 2nd attempt, Cecilia Deruiz & Juju Lincon Jones were available. I picked Cecilia...

Cecilia Deruiz

When I checked Cecilia’s current Internet pictures, I noticed she’d changed her look. She had curly, orange-brown hair in the pictures I’d downloaded before the trip. She now seemed to have straight, blonde hair. I liked it!

http://www.karlamodels.net/cecilia_deruiz/fotos.htm

For a Karla Models girl, Cecilia looked pretty good. Cute young face. Great little body. Perky little tits. No kids. Just what the doctor ordered after a week in Buenos Aires.

I didn’t relish another cold shower, but my clean dick was rewarded with a BBBJ that lasted until I shot my load in Cecilia’s mouth. After playing around for a while, it was time for a camisinha. Strangely enough, Cecilia wouldn’t sit on my dick. A Brasileira who won’t do cowgirl? :confused: While I was pounding her quatro, I had a nice view of Cecilia’s great little ass. And, of course, I wanted to fuck her little ass. :D

Cecilia wouldn’t take it up the bunda. She said my dick was too big! :eek: Chinese girls complain about my size all the time, but not Brasileiras! She said she never offered and her customers never asked. Well, I did! And I got what I wanted. She wasn’t all that tight, but I believe her back side doesn’t see much action. It was messy! :rolleyes:

Out of interest, I checked if Cecilia had any reviews on GP Guia. The Rio section isn’t nearly as active as the São Paulo section, and there are few escort reviews. But Cecilia has one review... a negative one. No surprise there!

BTW, when I wanted to take pictures of the book, I wasn’t allowed to. Is that normal these days? I noticed that the Karla Models site no longer states that all the girls are completa. Is it still true?

Big Day!

After processing my pictures, it was time to go to sleep. Tomorrow was a big day. My long overdue return to 4x4!

Loso

Hitmanm3
01-03-08, 22:05
Apartment Reservation

A few days before I left on this trip, I tried to make reservations for an apartment with a Jacuzzi. David from Gringo Management confirmed the apartment was available, so I paid a deposit through PayPal. When he received the payment, David said he would send me the confirmation letter later that day. Instead, I got an e-mail saying: “I misread my calendar and the apartment is actually not available”. Bloody idiot!

When I enquired about another apartment, David said he’d get back to me tomorrow. Six days later, when I was already in Port Alegre, I finally got a reply. I didn’t like any of the alternatives David had to offer me. Not to waste my precious time, I finally agreed to switch to an apartment that looked damn ugly to me. But David assured me that the place looked much better than the pictures...

Airport Bus

After having a smoke, I hopped on the airport bus to Copacabana. As we were driving along Avenida Atlantica, I was looking where to get off. The bus driver asked for my destination and dropped me off right by my apartment. Door to door service for just 6 BRL.

Apartment

Someone from Gringo Management showed me to my apartment and... left straight away. I didn’t like the Internet pictures and I hated the actual apartment. Apart from a sofa and the bed, the place was totally bare. The walls were totally bare. The bedspread looked as if it was older than I am. This was the kind of place you’d be ashamed to bring a girl to!

There was no safe. When I took a shower... there was no hot water. :mad: But at least the Internet connection worked, so I could complain about this dump.

Karla Models

Phone Card!

By the time I’d unpacked, showered, done some shopping and had dinner, it was too late to visit a Centro termas. Plan B was to call Karla Models. Daiana Lorenz, Cecilia Deruiz & Pamela Negrete were available. But as I was checking out their pictures, I ran out of credit on my phone.

I rushed out to buy a phone card, but couldn’t find a place that was open at this time of night. Pussy was just a phone call away, but I was unable to make the call. Would I strike out again on my first night in town? Not in Rio!

After walking around aimlessly for about an hour, I finally found the coveted phone card. I was saved! I rushed back to my apartment and called Karla Models again. At the 2nd attempt, Cecilia Deruiz & Juju Lincon Jones were available. I picked Cecilia...

Cecilia Deruiz

When I checked Cecilia’s current Internet pictures, I noticed she’d changed her look. She had curly, orange-brown hair in the pictures I’d downloaded before the trip. She now seemed to have straight, blonde hair. I liked it!

http://www.karlamodels.net/cecilia_deruiz/fotos.htm

For a Karla Models girl, Cecilia looked pretty good. Cute young face. Great little body. Perky little tits. No kids. Just what the doctor ordered after a week in Buenos Aires.

I didn’t relish another cold shower, but my clean dick was rewarded with a BBBJ that lasted until I shot my load in Cecilia’s mouth. After playing around for a while, it was time for a camisinha. Strangely enough, Cecilia wouldn’t sit on my dick. A Brasileira who won’t do cowgirl? :confused: While I was pounding her quatro, I had a nice view of Cecilia’s great little ass. And, of course, I wanted to fuck her little ass. :D

Cecilia wouldn’t take it up the bunda. She said my dick was too big! :eek: Chinese girls complain about my size all the time, but not Brasileiras! She said she never offered and her customers never asked. Well, I did! And I got what I wanted. She wasn’t all that tight, but I believe her back side doesn’t see much action. It was messy! :rolleyes:

Out of interest, I checked if Cecilia had any reviews on GP Guia. The Rio section isn’t nearly as active as the São Paulo section, and there are few escort reviews. But Cecilia has one review... a negative one. No surprise there!

BTW, when I wanted to take pictures of the book, I wasn’t allowed to. Is that normal these days? I noticed that the Karla Models site no longer states that all the girls are completa. Is it still true?

Big Day!

After processing my pictures, it was time to go to sleep. Tomorrow was a big day. My long overdue return to 4x4!

LosoSorry to hear that the apartment was not what you where looking for. We should start a section just on apartments and who to trust when it comes to apartment rentales, we should look out for one another in terms of who we should be able to trust when it comes to renting apartments. Monglers should be able to trust each others recomendation. So maybe it would help if we start some type of forum on this topic and up date it everytime we make a reservation and rate them according to how everything works out.

Bravo
01-03-08, 22:41
Loso in the future, just take pictures of the book, while the girl is in the shower.

Spivvv
01-03-08, 22:48
Just remember that whatever is acceptable behavior at MP, Balcony, TA, Help, or the termas is one thing, and doing the same thing with regular women is an entirely different story.

EAExcellent advice, no matter where we are on the planet.

Mike in Brazil and other "films" do not accurately reflect the state of the world. In fact, that's the whole point of them.

Dp Gumbypgh
01-04-08, 00:51
Hilário de Gouveia 66, apt 1103, is closed.

I would rather walk 1 block away to the metro station and head to centro.Praca Serzedelo Correia 15, room 1104 is also closed.

Av Nossa Copacabana 583, apt. 204 , Clube 204 is charging R$55 for 20min.They probably have the youngest girls all 18-20 years old Termas Copacabana, Av Nossa Copacabana 583, apt. 203 charges around R$85 for a 20min session but is the cleanest and most professional of the cheaper places. The girls there are older but of a higher standard too. BBBJ can be negotiated with the girl in advance for no additional cost at all of the places.

Another cheap place is Rua Toneleiros, 173 Sobrado (above) same prices as Clube 204, Girls are not quite as nice or as young though.

Rua Siqueira Campos, 22 also has a R$55 for 20mins but may also charge an entrance fee of R$10-20 or will waive it completely if you are a regular. Inside they have pool table (if you can play in the dark), so you can interact the the girls a little which generally can help you make you choices. Mondays and Tuesdays seem to be new girl tryout night and therefore have more girls available with less customers. Beer is only R$10 for three small latas so I found a relatively cheap place to sit around and drink early evenings. It is open till midnight everyday except Sunday.

Mr Enternational
01-04-08, 01:51
Looks like the man who taught me all about this little devil is back in action!

Bad Boy Billy
01-04-08, 02:39
Sorry to hear that the apartment was not what you where looking for. We should start a section just on apartments and who to trust when it comes to apartment rentales, we should look out for one another in terms of who we should be able to trust when it comes to renting apartments. Monglers should be able to trust each others recomendation. So maybe it would help if we start some type of forum on this topic and up date it everytime we make a reservation and rate them according to how everything works out.

Guys Guys Guys - RTFF

There is a whole thread in the Brazil forum dedicated to the deceitful / unprofessional / dodgy practices of Gringo Management in terms of apatment rental.

That thread was started by a friend of mine after we had our 'pants taken down' by Gringomanagement when we rented a apartment from them in June 2006.

We were bitten once - NEVER EVER AGAIN. And we try t warn as many a possible .

All you guys do yourself a favour - DO NOT DEAL WITH GRINGO MANAGEMENT

Jan 156
01-04-08, 03:05
Jobim,

Are you sure that email is correct? I tried sending her a note and it got rejected.

Thanks.

I've stayed there a couple of times and it's quite nice. 100% girl friendly and you get a maid thrown in to clean up every day (they don't look like it but some of them do tricks discretely - I called my maid the year after and she gave me excellent service for 100R).

The balcony views towards Corcovado are kinda impressive when you take chicks back. I think there's also a pool somewhere though I've never used it.

I've rented from a guy in the letting agency on the 2nd floor. You sit and haggle over a cup of coffee in his office. The main prob with aparthotel for me in the past has been gas supplies. They'll claim it affects the whole city which is patent nonsense. Not the end of the world, but rather annoying when you're paying for a nice gas kitchen.

Still more expensive than an equivalent (non-serviced) apartment, but quite good value if you like hotel comforts at less cost.

Romello
01-04-08, 03:23
Hey Mates.

I spent 3wks in Brasil (2wks in Rio, 1 wk in Salvador).

Was my 2nd trip to Rio. Man do I love this place.

Me and my cousin rented a 2br apt thru: http://www.copacabanapt4rent.com

(Franco, he's a good guy.)

Apt was in good shape, had no problems.

http://www.copacabanapt4rent.com/page3.html (#202) $90/night

Websites that I used to meet some chicas before arriving: badoo.com, brazilcupid.com, orkut.com.

I chatted with alot of girls from those sites, but only had a chance to meet a few of them in person.

This trip I only went to HELP a few times, since I did alot of clubbin at the local spots. Most I paid for TLN from HELP was 200 reals.

Favorite termas.

1. Monte Carlo (had the best time there, met a stunner, had a VERY good session) also the DJ played some samba music for about 30mins, and every girl that wasn't in a session was dancing too it, so, I just sat back and enjoyed the few.

2. 4X4. Had the best line-up. About 50 girls were there around 6pm went there twice, each time had alot of girls.

Had one GREAT session, and one session where this tall blonde didn't let me do much, since she just got her tits done. So, was a waste of my time.

3. LuMomo's. Had a good session there, but the selection was not good.

I'm working on the pics, need to resize them to attach here.

Loso69
01-04-08, 03:57
Bravo,

I was allowed to take pictures of the book last time & didn’t expect it to be a problem this time. If I remember correctly, we showered together. :)

Bad Boy Billy,

I knew about the Gringo Management thread. But there’s more to come... I’ll post the complete apartment saga in the appropriate thread later.

Mr. Enternational,

I’m back in action... writing reports. :) This is the belated report of the trip when we met at R. Buenos Aires 85, went to Cancun & checked out a low budget place. It was great to meet you!

You found my “La Boca” vibrator! :) Has it seen any action?

Loso

Sunset
01-04-08, 04:05
Rio - A partir de junho de 2008, a orla de Copacabana, na Zona Sul do Rio, vai receber uma das mais recentes tendências mundiais: o sistema de Internet em banda larga a céu aberto, totalmente gratuito, mais conhecido como wi-fi.

O governador Sérgio Cabral, acompanhado do secretário de Ciência e Tecnologia, Alexandre Cardoso, lançou, na manhã desta quinta-feira, o projeto Orla Digital, que começa a ser operado ainda neste primeiro semestre. O próximo passo será estender o serviço a todos os municípios da Baixada Fluminense

A partir da implantação do wi-fi, moradores, turistas e quem mais passar pelos pontos que estiverem munidos com os computadores poderão navegar de graça pelo mundo virtual. Inicialmente, o fornecimento de Internet sem fio cobrirá toda a Avenida Atlântica. O governador lançou o desafio de fazer do estado do Rio o primeiro do país a *** cobertura digital em todo o território.

Segundo Alexandre Cardoso, o sistema wi-fi chegará a todo estado em, aproximadamente, 18 meses, totalizando um investimento de mais de R$ 40 milhões.

O wi-fi permite acessar muitas aplicações e serviços, com diversas finalidades e utilização por milhares de indivíduos, localizados em ambientes remotos com diferentes características e objetivos. Por exemplo, na transmissão de vídeos educacionais, profissionalizantes, culturais, comerciais e de entretenimento até a casa, escola ou local de trabalho de cada interessado.

HoleRanger
01-04-08, 15:14
I can second the motion using www.copacabanaapt4rent.com
I used this company on my last trip and have a place now booked for my upcoming Carnival trip. Franco takes the time to make sure you are comfortable, exchanges my money getting the best available rates and for those new to the area, he will educate you on using street sense in the area.

Enjoy!

Vikingss
01-04-08, 20:46
hello people!

well time for me to jump into this forum, i am not a "rookie monger" i been living in brasil 3-4 mnths a year last 3 years, before that i was on regulary 3 weeks trips since 99.

i been reading a lot in here, first of all its so fun to see what other experience as i have done myself last 6 years going to sp and rj.

i remember my first trip, it was holidays and it was bad weather, we was sick of going out here in scandinavia and i said, hey lets go to the airport take a flight to london, and go from there, looked at each other, damn lets go, taxi, visa cards and master cards, some clothes, 2 hours later we was in the flight to london, i went to ba and asked which flights is going tonight at 2200, egypt, cuba, mallorca, and some other countries, then she said, been to brasil before? nope we haven't, lets go, well 14 hours later we arrived to rio de janeiro, oh man, i had my hair straighten straight up when we drive in to macarena and after some minutes we saw copa, damn we are in copa, unbelivabel.

i was like a child on the xmas evning, i am a huge soccer fan, so this was the big shit for me, we went to rio othon palace, checked in, it was still early and we went to sleep, at 11 we woke up, the beach was getting more and more people, we went over, we was white as paint hehe, damn, i was so happy, started to drink, got to know some girls and we was on, the game was on, used the same game plan as home, me and my friend always been lucky to get girls, so we was in heaven, then we was ready to get of the beach, went to mp and had a few beers, then i started to wonder, whats this shit? hehehe.

remember we haven't no info about rio at all but we would very soon!

meet one beautuful morena and one unbelivabel mulata, who got attention from anyone from taxi drivers to tourist.

we went on to rio othon, moved out got a nice penthouse appartment in ipnema, and we throw a crasy party there, those girls had with them 5 gfs and we rocked and drinked and had so much fun, we went to the pool, then one of the girls (morena) drag me inside to the bathroom, had a view all over ipanema beach, unbelivabel, she started to kiss me and was whispering "gostoso" all the time, and told me how much she liked my cologne (d&g) i was in heaven, amazing ass and a rack i could lick all night long, fucked her 2 times, and i was like, wtf hehe so early and already been fucking like a rabbit.

i went out of the room, and my friend was just looking at me, and he couldn't hardly speak, he had been looking at 2 of them go on each other, and then he did get a blowjob and was like, wtf is going on, where are we, i was high (not on drugs, but on the athmosphare and life)

we drink a few drinks more, and suddenly, 3 of the girls says, hey we have to go to work, i said work? you are all dressed up, and are about to get drunk, they just laughed and said: you scandinavians are cute and funny, well i laughed and said i guess we are.

girls laughed so hard, so you never been to rio serious? i said never, they laughed more, oki guys we are going to a disco called helpeeee we was like, cool, a disco, perfect.

some of the girls splitted up outside and we was like, damn, looks huge, lets go, payed in, and went up, clock was around 0030 in the morning.

and i was in shock, hahaha, fucking unbelivable, a disco with tons of girls who was rockin and shouting and i went into totaly shock, what was this?

the morena laughed and said its our job from time to time, then we looked at each other, did we just fuck some hookers for free man, hahaha, it was so funny, we rocked that place for 3 weeks and we went crasy, absolutely crasy. i even got a new name there, it was "disco boy" and i become friends with people who worked there, damn, they even let me in the kitchen for order if it was to packed there, after that we had table there every night.

well that was my first meeting with rio and brasil, i have tons of stories to tell from non pro to party with ronaldo, to go out with an brasilian playboy model, to heng out with "9" girls from help, to fall in love with an barbarella girl, i didn't know she worked there, meet her on a private party to hang out with over class, to eat dinner in favela, ohhhhhh been amazing 6 years guys, got so many friends, today i still meet from time to time, girls from rio in oslo, with babys and husband on the street, and they blushes, one i have very much contact with is an veteran in helpee, i haven't fucked her, just friends for 6 years, and she tells me everything what going on in rio, i mean everything.

hope to meet some of you guys in rio, going there in march for 2 weeks, anyone planning, let me know. , .

oh man, i just love those bundas, i am addicted, can't get them out of my head hehe

well nice to meet you all, and have a happy new hunting bunda year.

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Tawan
01-05-08, 11:56
I have some friends visiting me here in Rio this week and so far we've made it to two termas.

LUOMO

The talent level at Luomo was pretty high. Mostly new faces, and the vibe in the bar area was great too, lots of dancing, groping, kissing, etc.

The best news of all was that Sue Ellen came back to Luomo a couple days ago. As noted before in this forum Suelen is beautiful and loves sex. She basically hates to miss an opportunity to reach orgasm and the experience of getting her there is unforgettable. What makes Brazil and especially Rio amazing is the number of GDPs who actually manage to enjoy their jobs, at least sometimes, but Sue Ellen is truly special in this regard. I know her well and she is definitely not faking. She is greedy about pleasing herself and may complain if you don't cooperate.

The rest of her service is not necessarily the most generous or creative in terms of foreplay or varying positions or whatever unless you request stuff. No problem with anal if that's your thing. But personally I find all that besides the point. The point is you are going to have real sex with an amazing 20 year old who is more genuinely excited about this prospect than any of your girlfriends ever was. I'd known Sue Ellen on and off for 2 years and had lost touch with her so I was delighted to see her stroll into the boate. These days she has longish, straight black hair. Medium height, full sexy lips, and a fish tatoo on her right hip. I can't avoid mentioning her breasts: they're phenomenal "teenage" firm and worth sampling in the bar area. Unfortunately she may be leaving the business again around carnaval.

I did 2 consecutive sessions with Sue Ellen before leaving and didn't spend much time in the bar, but when we left around 8pm the girl to customer ratio was still over 2 to 1 and everyone seemed happy.

CENTAURUS

It's impossible to love this place when every employee seems trained to disprespect the customers, from the apes guarding the door outside to the guy at the front desk who can't even make change. The price was already the highest in Rio at like 350 a few years ago, now it's 500!

So why did I even bring my friends here? The thing is, there are usually at least a couple girls working at Centaurus who are a little different from what you can find in any other termas. Let me be clear: most of the talent is at the same level as the other zona sul casas and many girls worked at those same casas before, which makes paying the higher prices here silly. But a couple girls will be at a level the other termas can't attract. Remember that well dressed 20 year old middle class, and totally unapproachable hottie you drooled over while shopping at Barra Fashion Mall? You might just score one like her at Centaurus.

A good example is Clara, a young, tall morena with an awesome model-type figure. She gently seduced me without seeming to try. She's personable, witty and educated, we talked for over an hour before getting a cabine. She also complained about the idiotic manager Najara who marches around openly hounding the girls (apparently she's an ex-puta herself and the owner's girlfriend). Upstairs Clara was attentive, passionate and aimed to please but she was never fake. Just perfect. I got her number and am currently plotting my next move. Everyone managed to scope an 8 or 9, hard to miss at Centaurus but you need to take your time and fight off a couple 5s or 6s, the girls can be pushy, unlike at Luomo.

By the way, the fantasy of meeting a "universitaria" in a termas is usually just a fantasy. Termas girls are usually a couple steps ahead of their clients: they're well aware of fantasies like this and are experts at exploiting them. In most cases, the "college girl" is not really at university at all or maybes she's taking one class at some cheap trade school. But I have met a few girls at Centaurus who were definitely on track to be professionals. Clara is studying to be a biologist. I'm thinking it would be really hot to run into her later on in life working as a doctor!

Centaurus was pretty quiet this week which seems strange, maybe there's just not enough people willing to be overcharged and treated like idiots.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Balluba
01-05-08, 12:54
You are all dressed up, and are about to get drunk, they just laughed and said: You scandinavians are cute and funny, well I laughed and said I guess we are.


A lovely story describing the culture shock when naive, frosty Scandinavians meets with hot latinas. One report as makes me smile, as tons of snow are falling down outside my window.

Look forward to see more from You,

from one Viking to another,
Balluba

Vikingss
01-05-08, 15:28
A lovely story describing the culture shock when naive, frosty Scandinavians meets with hot latinas. One report as makes me smile, as tons of snow are falling down outside my window.

Look forward to see more from You,

From one Viking to another,

BallubaHi Balluba,

Cool to meet an fellow Viking indeed

Yeah I laugh hard everytime I think of it still, best trip ever, because we didn't know anything, went back 4 weeks later and stayed for 3 more weeks, the girls thought we was crasy, I mean we was in disco from 2200 to 0600 everyday hehe, (did the pussy in the daytime for the most, when we was sober and had plenty of time)

Have tons of story to tell, I see almost everybody has bad luck in Buzios, I can't just not understand that, scored a lot there of non pros from SP and RJ, from lawyers to school teachers, only 9 r's I mean stunning sexy hot bodied good looking garotas, well another story

Pm me if you are going down this year, I am all in for it!

Icyhoteric
01-05-08, 15:54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u9H8mQDmRc

Insolaçao do Coraçao by Babado NovoYes yes yes! Thanks! This is the live version, sounds a bit different, but this is it. The garotas crack up when the gringos sing it.

Icyhoteric
01-05-08, 16:03
i think this is the song you're talking about:

http://www.mp3tube.net/br/musics/mc-crew-danca-do-crew/84481/

dança do crew by mc crewyes.

you guys are great thanks. gotta love in help when this song comes on the speeds up and the girls that can really dance get dirty. oh man. it's freezing in ny right now. i need me some bundao!

Spinnerman
01-05-08, 18:05
Speaking of Music:

What's the name of the Brazilian Funk song that 90% of the GPDs have as a ring tone? They all spill their Vodka Hedgie-Boos answering their mobiles whenever the DJ spins it.

Off Road
01-05-08, 23:37
Last night went with a gal I know on a tour of Franks, Ciccolina and Sensoo.
All are located on Princess Isabel, close to Ave. Atlantica.

Franks - R$60 for both of us to enter 2 drinks each included. Two topless girls dancing, with poles, sort of like american strip bars. One out of maybe 10 of them was worth looking at. The bar is the smallest of the 3 from what I saw. There were plenty of girls, not too many guys. The girls are all take-out. Not many good looking ones. We had one drink and decided to go next door. I think there was a show later but we did not stay.

Ciccolina - R$55 for both of us to enter and 2 drinks each included. Again, two topless girls dancing, about the same quality as Franks. Same for the girls around. About 1am there was a show. Several strippers came on one at a time, stripped nude. Some were just nude for 5 seconds, others for a minute or two. A few of them did a good strip, one was a cowgirl type of outfit, did a great job, good tease too. After about 10 girls, two girls came on and did a lesbian show. One of them was the cowgirl. They did a show for about 10 minutes, totally nude, kissing, sucking, licking everywhere. They even cleared off a few of the tables and did the deed on them. It was a good show. After it was over, back to the topless dancers. We had our 2 drinks and left.

Sensoo - R$110 for both of us to enter and 2 drinks each. There is one girl dancing topless. This place is bigger and the girls were somewhat nicer looking. Plenty of them. Ran into a few buddies there too. It is also brighter than Franks or Ciccolina. I am not sure if they had a show earlier.

I have been to Barbarella before, the girls there are much better looking, but I belive it is more expensive.

I do not know what the takeout costs for the girls was.

If I were to go again, Sensoo for the girls, Ciccolina for the show.

I have been back to the 3 above and also Erotika.

La Ciccolina is fairly dark and I do not like the layout that well.

Franks is organized better, but have not seen a show there yet, dark also.

Sensoo is brighter so you can really see the girls better. They have one girl dancing topless until the show starts about 1:30. Then there are about 6 strippers from fair to good performance. Then they have a samba dance routing with 6 gals, they drag a couple guys from the audience and get them to dance on stage (like a dancing lapdance). I like the quality of the girls there. Girls were asking R$300 for all night takeout for a threesome. My buddy said he took out out for R$100. Oh, there were next to no guys in the place. It was so funny to watch the action, the girls are sitting around the stage, when the door opens and a guy comes in, they all jump up and start to dance. When he gets occupied or leaves, they all sit back down. I think at one point there were only 3 clients and 20 girls.

Erotika on Prada Junior was R$50 each including 2 drinks. They have one small area with one topless dancer, and then a larger stage area where they promised there would be a show. Trouble was it was 11:30 and no topless dancers, only a large area with a lot of tables and guys and girls. There were more girls here than the other 3. But we wanted to see topless and a show, and not wait 2 or more hours, so we felt boring for us and went to Sensoo.

So my two choices are Sensoo and La Ciccolina. but they are getting kinda boring now. My GF did wonder why the girls did not work in Help, because they were better looking and great dancers/strippers.

Loso69
01-06-08, 06:17
Wallpaper

Ever since my 1st visit to Rio, a 4x4 garota has graced my phone. Even though Evelyn’s picture served as a constant reminder and evoked wonderful memories, it would take 2 long years before I revisited Rio. But today was the day of my long overdue return to that magical place...

I slept way too long. I had to drop off my laundry. I could have taken the metro, but I simply couldn’t wait to get there, so I hopped into a taxi. The anticipation...

The walk down the corridor. The first glimpse of the garotas as I made my way to the dressing room. The 4x4 robes fit me like a glove. Simply donning the robe is enough to put a big grin on my face...

Dezoito

Finally... the boate. It seemed to be more crowded than usual at this time of day. All the girls were wearing the same outfit. There was a festa at 4x4!

The first girl to approach me was Jackie. I loved the little spinner, but I wanted to get a good look at the selection first. I excused myself, ordered a beer and started mingling. You’re always spoilt for choice at 4x4 and it’s often difficult to pick a garota.

Suddenly, my eyes fixated on a garota towering above the girls she was dancing with. Wearing high heels, Rupia was as tall as me. Her radiant smile. The youthful glow on her face. Her flowing brown locks. I grabbed her waste and started dancing with her...

After exhausting ourselves on the dance floor, we took a breather and sat down. When I asked Rupia how old she was, she shyly replied: “Dezoito”. After spending a week in Buenos Aires, you can’t imagine how sweet that sounded. :)

Rupia and I spent about an hour chatting, flirting & kissing. She seemed almost embarrassed to tell me she was in fact “working”. Of course I wanted to do a programa with this total sweetie!

Surprisingly, Rupia wanted to give me a CBJ. Probably because she has a tongue stud. But she didn’t insist. She looked like a tigress teasing her prey as she started licking my dick until suddenly... she really went for it. Wow!

Rupia breathed a huge sigh as my dick disappeared inside her, and gave her thigh muscles a great workout as she was pumping and grinding my dick. She was wet. She was passionate. We were totally in sync. Wonderful girl!

Rupia asked me for a CD with her pictures. I brought it for her the next day, but there was no sight of Rupia. I didn’t see her on any of my subsequent visits to 4x4 either. Maybe she was imported for the festa...

Familiar Faces

Since I hadn’t visited Rio in 2 years, I didn’t expect to see any familiar faces. Drica was the first girl I ever talked to in 4x4. She was the only 4x4 girl who refused having her picture taken on my last trip. She lost the blonde stripes in her hair and her face looked rather dull. She calls herself Vitoria these days and even though I never sessioned with her, she remembered me.

Cindy remembered me as well. She looks great as a blonde! I planned to take her for another spin, but never got round to it.

My favorita Evelyn is no longer working. Apparently, she got married... :(

Garota Net

Since I posted pictures of all my 4x4 conquests in my 2005 report, I was a little worried. The Garota Net is all powerful! Carolina definitely remembered my pictures. She has paper copies of them. I breathed a sigh of relief when it turned out she never found out about the Internet pictures.

Carolina may be 2 years older, but she looks better than ever. Her hair is longer and a lighter shade of blonde. She’s lost some weight. Carolina is totally my type and I find her utterly irresistible. Of course, we ended up having another wonderful session together. I took plenty of pictures, and burnt a CD for Carolina.

Six days later, Carolina called me over and called me a “mentira”. Her pictures were posted 2 years ago. For 2 long years, she didn’t know about it. But while I was in town, someone showed her the pictures and warned her about me. That is fucking low! :mad:

I won’t shoot myself in the foot again. This report on Rio will not contain any pictures of termas girls.

Jackie

Jackie was the first girl to approach me in 4x4. She’s a mulatta spinner with an adorable face who seems to specialize in the foreign trade. Us gringos often like the spinners and Jackie lacks the bunda the locals are so fond of.

I liked the look of her! But when I approached her later on my first night, Jackie seemed to be of the wham bam variety. I simply told her: ”Não beijos. Não companhia. Não programa”. Jackie sulked...

The second day, Jackie was once again a girl in a hurry. I repeated what I told her the previous day and left her hanging. Jackie finally got the message. She sat down on the couch with me and rolled her tongue around in my mouth. Sweet! But Jackie’s family doesn’t know what she does for a living and she sure as hell doesn’t want them to find out. She wouldn’t agree to pictures.

No pictures!

On my first trip, only Drica refused pictures. My second day in 4x4, my request for pictures was greeted with a cold “Não” by 4 girls in a row!

First, there was Emmanuelle, a gorgeous creature with curly blonde hair. She’s married! Then there was Jackie. Next up was the beautiful morena Monique. When yet another girl turned me down, I figured I was never going to get laid. I’d been in 4x4 for 4 hours already and still hadn’t done a single programa. :eek:

Luckily, the trend wasn’t continued. After missing out on 4 girls, all the garotas I approached were happy to star before my lens. But the Garota Net does work! On subsequent visits, one girl I was after was clearly avoiding me. Other garotas advertized the fact that they were into modeling.

Jekyll and Hyde

Late on my first night, I started dancing with a pretty blonde. Karen was not in the party mood and wanted to head up straight away. When I told her to slow down, she said she’d be going home soon and it was now or never. She was lying...

The next day, I was surprised when Karen came on to me. She threw her arms around me and we started moving to the beat. Soon after, her lips were caressing mine. What happened? How come the ice queen from yesterday suddenly turned into a real sweetie?

Karen explained that a few guys had wasted her time yesterday, which left her in a foul mood. Today, she was in no hurry whatsoever and we ended up having a great session.

Porn Star Lorrane

Lorrane is one of the stars of 4x4. Her sculpted and rock hard body is sheer perfection. The huge tattoo of a snake on her back is an indication that she’s a nasty girl. Lorrane fucks like an Olympic gymnast and is one wild ride!

Lorrane also stars in quite a few porn flicks. The scenes were originally shot for Brasileirinhas movies, but have also been included in the “Two In One” series by Oftly Gold. Lorrane features on the cover of Teil 1 and 3.

Lorrane has curly hair these days, which really suits her. She no longer has the angelic face from “Teil 1” and looks damn hot!

Quatro Dias

Interrupted by a local holiday and a weekend, I spent 4 entire days at 4x4. Except for my last visit, I arrived in the afternoon and stayed until closing time. 4x4 is not only a great place to get laid. Its party atmosphere also makes it a great place to hang out & enjoy yourself.

Over 4 days, I had 7 ST and 2 LT encounters with 4x4 girls. Each and every garota provided the most wonderful service. 4 days in 4x4 equals 4 days of total bliss!

Number One!

In my previous report, I concluded that you hadn’t lived life to the fullest until you’d danced wearing a robe in 4x4. I’ve visited 20+ countries since then. As a single P4P venue, 4x4 remains the undisputed number one. There’s simply no place like it.

Loso

Brazilman
01-06-08, 12:23
When did Centaurus go to 500 reals? I quit going about 2 years ago but i heard they were up to 330 reals- not 500. Can another monger verify this. I find it hard to believe that even that piece of shit place would charge that much. Why do you guys still go there.

Spinnerman
01-06-08, 22:50
500 Reals for Centaurus is a bit much. You can get banged 20 times at Villa Mimosa for that.

Loso69
01-07-08, 02:37
Public Holiday

June 7 was Corpus Christi, a public holiday in Brazil. Don’t these people ever work? After spending 2 glorious days in 4x4, I had to look for alternatives. The Centro termas were closed.

Karla Models

Just like my first night in Rio, plan B was to give Karla Models a call. Luckily, they were open for business. I was given a choice of 5 girls.

I wasn’t allowed to take pictures of the book when Cecilia came by. I had taken note of my favoritas (Raica Ximenes, Mel Casting, Daiana Lorenz), but none of them were available. Who to pick? I like blondes & Pamela Negrete seemed to have a nice figure. Pamela no longer appears on Karla’s website, so I've attached one of her Internet pictures.

The girl who turned up at my apartment... was a real butter face! :( I wasn’t attracted to Pamela, but she seemed really enthusiastic, as she stuck her tongue down my throat straight away.

After more DFK while we showered together, I lay down on the bed and lit up a smoke. Pamela started smoking... my cigar. I loved the way she rubbed my dick against her cheeks and she couldn’t seem to get enough of my wiener, so I lit up again... and again. So relaxing to have a smoke while you’re having your dick sucked. :)

Pamela was happy to play the cowgirl and rode my dick with plenty of enthusiasm. On to quatro... first up the buceta, then up the bumbum. Pamela was described as an anal queen. :)

I drilled her ass as long and as hard as I could, until I ran out of steam. After taking a break, Pamela endured another anal pounding. I still couldn’t come! Pamela ripped off the condom and sucked my dick until I unloaded my protein shake in her mouth.

I glanced at the clock. Not much time left. I was spent anyway. My bed was soaking wet. Fuglies are great exercise! :) Pamela wasn’t pretty, but she took it up the ass for about an hour and was an all-round great performer. Typical Karla Models girl.

Malu Models

I had some dinner and took a leisurely walk over to Monte Carlo. They were closed as well. No termas today.

I strolled back to my apartment and pondered which agency to call next. I had a few pretty girls from Malu Models last time around, so I dialed their number. Seven girls were ready to hop in a taxi. Instead of making a selection based on faceless Internet pictures, I asked the operator to recommend a pretty face. Heloisa! Send her over!

According to her Internet bio, Heloisa was 167 cm. She’s actually 162 cm. According to the Malu Models site, she was 19 yo. She’s actually 24 yo. Subtract 5 cm and add 5 years. :) Heloisa was supposed to have a university degree. She never graduated. But her luscious brown hair was natural and her face was way prettier than Pamela’s.

Heloisa told me she’d been working for 1 month to settle her debts. She was going to stop working soon. Indeed, she’s no longer featured on the Malu Models site. Once again, an old Internet picture has been attached.

Heloisa’s ultra-sweet disposition really turned me on. She wasn’t completa, but we had 2 wonderful rounds of slow, intimate sex. The perfect GFE.

Loso

Jan 156
01-07-08, 03:07
500 Reals for Centaurus is a bit much. You can get banged 20 times at Villa Mimosa for that.

Only if you take your own condoms . . . ;-))))

Then of course, you have to add on the bus fare . . .

Exec Talent
01-07-08, 09:08
L'uomo now charges R$20 per session all the time if you want to use a credit card to pay the girl's fees. Previously, on Saturday and Sunday you could pay everything, without additional charges, with your credit card.

Credit card: Entrance R$60, Suite R$290, Cabine R$220. You still get a whopping R$10 discount if you have a session.

Sperto
01-07-08, 15:11
Speaking of Music:
What's the name of the Brazilian Funk song that 90% of the GPDs have as a ring tone? They all spill their Vodka Hedgie-Boos answering their mobiles whenever the DJ spins it.
Maybe
Dança do Créu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lVn8ZhhwDQ

Loso69
01-07-08, 20:42
Gringo Management

I hated the totally bare apartment I was staying at. My first 2 days in 4x4, I was hesitant to ask a garota to spend the night with me. I didn’t fancy bringing a girl to this ugly apartment with the cold water shower.

Apparently, Nubia & Edna came round quite a few times to investigate the hot water situation. They never found me home. I basically live in the termas, and my apartment is only a place to sleep... preferably not alone. :)

Since the person who let me into the apartment left straight away, I’d only paid the deposit so far. David was sending me e-mails requesting to get paid in full. Not gonna happen! I wouldn’t pay up until the hot water problem was resolved. Even with hot water, I didn’t want to stay in this apartment for the full 9 days. I was already looking into other options.

David preferred to be paid by credit card. Not gonna happen! When I last rented an apartment from Gringo Management, the apartment was just fine. But after I got home, David tried to charge me extra for missing towels and cleaning a stain on the floor. I actually bought extra towels and left them in the apartment! And neither I nor any of my girls stained the floor. If David had my CC details, he could have put the extra charges on my card. Since I paid in cash, he didn’t have that option. I definitely didn’t want to give him the opportunity to put bogus charges on my card.

On Corpus Christi, the termas were closed, so I spent most of my time in the apartment. The doorman finally explained about the hot water. If I opened the shower at full blast, the water was cold... because the water heater wasn’t powerful enough. If I opened the water just a little, the water was... lukewarm.

So I had hot water... if only a little. But I still didn’t want to stay in this apartment any longer. Just when I’d decided to move to a hotel, I received an e-mail from David. The apartment with the Jacuzzi I’d originally made reservations for would be available from tomorrow. Great!

The following morning, I paid the balance for the apartment by PayPal and packed my bags. The girl from Gringo Management came by to pick up the keys. I specifically told her that I didn’t want to wait outside with my luggage. She assured me the taxi would be waiting to bring me to my new apartment. When we got downstairs, she rushed off with the keys and... left me stranded with no taxi in sight. :mad:

I tried to contact Nubia, but couldn’t get through to her. I soon got fed up with waiting and hailed a cab. I never heard from Gringo Management again...

Centro!

At the end of my previous report, I suggested I would prefer to stay in Centro. Since I spend all my time in Centro anyway, it would be a lot more convenient to stay there. People advised against it. Centro is deserted and dangerous at night and on weekends. There are no decent places to stay.

Fuck that! Centro is where I wanted to be. Centro is where I was going! I had a big grin on my face the whole time I was in the taxi. This may be the most symbolic taxi ride I’ve ever taken. By getting into that cab, I became a Centro man through and through. I may never set foot in Copacabana again. It has nothing to offer me.

Ibis Hotel

The taxi dropped me off at the Ibis Hotel. This brand new hotel opened its doors in May. The rooms are small, but pretty. There’s a safe to store your valuables. The water is hot. You get clean sheets and towels every day. Most importantly, there is no joiner’s fee, unlike in many hotels in Copacabana. And it was cheaper than that bloody apartment.

After unpacking my bags, I was able to walk to 4x4! Unlike on my previous visits, I had no intention of going home alone. Even though Friday is probably the most difficult night to find LT company at 4x4, I didn’t sleep alone. :)

Saturday

After my 4x4 girl jumped on a bus to Campo Grande, I was alone... in Centro... on a Saturday afternoon. I was a little apprehensive to head out into the supposedly deserted and dangerous Centro streets over the weekend, but ventured out anyway. I had to find out what the fuss was all about...

The streets aren’t as crowded as on weekdays, but there were plenty of people around. Many places were closed, but a few cheap restaurants were open for business. The locals seemed surprised to see a foreigner in Centro, but I encountered nothing but smiling faces.

I had another stroll around the neighborhood after dark. There were still people out and about. I was approached by a few streetwalkers on Avenida Passos. Programa? No, thanks, grandma! :) Centro may not be kicking, but it is alive on weekends. Dangerous? No more than Copacabana.

Loso

Lorenzo
01-07-08, 21:22
Most importantly, there is no joiner’s fee, unlike in the hotels in Copacabana. And it was cheaper than that bloody apartment.

Loso
Please explain. I've stayed at many hotels in Copacabana and have never heard of a joiner's fee. What are you talking about?

Loso69
01-07-08, 21:42
Please explain. I've stayed at many hotels in Copacabana and have never heard of a joiner's fee. What are you talking about?

Many Copacabana hotels charge joiner's fees, but some don't. Anyway, I no longer have any interest in Copacabana. I'm not into beaches. I avoid tourist putas like the plague. And knowing I can stay within walking distance of the Centro action, I'll never look back.

Loso

Cho 637
01-07-08, 22:22
Maybe
Dança do Créu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lVn8ZhhwDQ

Great video! I also like the song! (hehe!) Does anyone have the song on mp3 or know where I can download it? I don't know if this is the same song but this is the one that I want.

Originally Posted by Jesuscola
I think this is the song you're talking about:

http://www.mp3tube.net/br/musics/Mc...-Do-Crew/84481/

Dança do Crew by MC Crew

Spinnerman
01-07-08, 22:29
Maybe.

Dança do Créu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lVn8ZhhwDQNope that's not it, although I do admit it's almost as bad.

RSrsrs

Jan 156
01-07-08, 23:13
Great video! I also like the song! (hehe!) Does anyone have the song on mp3 or know where I can download it? I don't know if this is the same song but this is the one that I want.


If you're using windows just start sound recorder as you play it on youtube and it saves it as a wma file.

Chuchuma
01-08-08, 04:28
L'uomo now charges R$20 per session all the time if you want to use a credit card to pay the girl's fees. Previously, on Saturday and Sunday you could pay everything, without additional charges, with your credit card.

Credit card: Entrance R$60, Suite R$290, Cabine R$220. You still get a whopping R$10 discount if you have a session.Could you please elaborate? Is that Cabine R$220 total, including Entrance and Garota fee? or is that on top of the entrance fee and the Garota?

Thanks

Pipe Layer99
01-08-08, 06:10
L'uomo now charges R$20 per session all the time if you want to use a credit card to pay the girl's fees. ...
Credit card: Entrance R$60, Suite R$290, Cabine R$220. You still get a whopping R$10 discount if you have a session.

Did the rate for the girl and room go up too?

It was 130 for the girl + 60 room = 190 (not 220).

Thanos
01-08-08, 06:21
Could you please elaborate? Is that Cabine R$220 total, including Entrance and Garota fee? or is that on top of the entrance fee and the Garota?

ThanksIf you pay cash its 260R total for a 40 minute session.

If you use a credit card to pay its 280R.

JohnnyBraz
01-08-08, 08:37
Rio Joe,

This is one off the best reports that I have read. Brilliant report.

Was it once published in a hustler porn magazine? Slightly different but I think it's the same, not in as much depth as this.

Cho 637
01-08-08, 09:54
If you're using windows just start sound recorder as you play it on youtube and it saves it as a wma file.

It's the second version that I want to record. Its not Youtube, its mp3. Sound recorder won't record the whole thing, it only does about 30 or 40 seconds at a time.

http://www.mp3tube.net/br/musics/Mc...-Do-Crew/84481/

Jesuscola
01-08-08, 11:24
Did the rate for the girl and room go up too?

It was 130 for the girl + 60 room = 190 (not 220).

It's been 140 for the girl plus 60 for the room for a long, long time now...

Loso69
01-08-08, 19:12
Saturday Night

Tourist Termas

When I arrived at Solarium around 7 PM on a Saturday night, the place was pretty crowded. There was a big contingent of foreigners. The big-spending president of Fluminense FC had brought his posse.

At the Centro termas, all the girls will address you in Portuguese. At Solarium, everyone spoke English to me. Plenty of girls approached me and some of them were real cuties, but they all wanted to head straight upstairs.

My one and only previous visit to Solarium was also on a Saturday night. I didn’t like the attitude of the Solarium girls then either. But in the end, I hooked up with a great girl. Katia still works at Solarium. Her hair is shorter now and she put on quite a bit of weight.

I was in no rush. I had a few drinks; I danced; I observed the scene. When I got my vibrator out, one of the garotas seemed truly enamored with “La Boca” and had a “private session” with it. :) There was enough talent around, so I knew I’d eventually connect with that “special garota”.

Dara

As I sat down next to a cutie wearing a revealing black outfit, her friend was quick to point out that she didn’t speak any English. Muito bom! Dara and I hit it off straight away. She said she was shy. But she soon had her hand on my dick and her tongue in my mouth. She talked about the nasty things she liked to do, but seemed in no hurry to head upstairs. Dara loves to tease. I held on in the boate until my dick was screaming for action.

Dara had a rock hard Brazilian body and knew how to use it. After a great BBBJ, she sat on my dick and rode me like a rodeo pro. When she turned around and showed off her “bumbum redondo”, I wanted to fuck her doggy style. Dara assumed the position and I drilled her tight, wet snatch. I followed up with long, deep strokes in her ultra-tight asshole. Cries of “Sou puta! Fode a puta!” as I was pounding her ass added an extra dimension. I love a girl who talks dirty! :) My explosion was as violent as a volcanic eruption.

After snapping a few more pictures, Dara was quick to stick my dick back in her mouth. I was right horny and simply jumped her bones. But as I’d only booked a 40 minute session, there wasn’t enough time to blow a second load. Still, a stellar performance from a super horny garota.

Eduarda

A mulatta with wild multi-colored hair had caught my eye. The grey lenses she was wearing created a very exotic look. But she was occupada...

After my programma with Dara, I finally got the chance to talk to her. She was interested in coming to my room and was going to give me her number. As I went back to the dressing room to get my phone, I got talking to some fellow mongers. By the time I got back to the boate, it was deserted. Shit!

I was hoping to meet Eduarda outside the termas, but couldn’t be too obvious about it. I failed to spot Eduarda coming out. Double shit!

Sunday Night

Eduarda

As soon as she spotted me, Eduarda was all over me. I loved her sweet kisses. She wanted to do a programa. I preferred to take her home. We arranged to meet at the little restaurant on the corner where I had dinner the night before. A long sloppy kiss sealed the deal.

When she saw me with another girl, Eduarda seemed jealous. I called her over and explained that I wanted to do a programa with Lorrane, but still fully intended to spend the night with her. That put a smile back on her pretty face.

Different Attitude

On Sunday night, there were many hot girls I hadn’t seen the night before, and the girls’ attitude was totally different. Nobody seemed in a hurry. The girls were happy to chat and dance with me. While I didn’t think much of Solarium on a Saturday night, I simply loved the place on Sunday night. Of course, it wasn’t nearly as crowded on Sunday.

Lorrane

When I saw Lorrane perform her show the night before, I wanted her badly. But she was with the guy wearing the black belt – the president of Fluminense FC. Can’t compete with the likes of them!

Lorrane took her time before making her entrance tonight. She seemed to know everyone. It took a while before she responded to my signals, but she finally ended up in my lap. Just like her namesake at 4x4, Lorrane has a huge tattoo of a snake on her back. She isn’t that young, but Lorrane has star dust in her eyes. I found her totally irresistible. Her kisses were full of passion. She was telling me how badly she wanted my dick up her ass. What could I do? The flesh is weak... but my dick sure wasn’t. :)

I wanted a full four with Lorrane, so I opted for a suite. While the cabinas at Solarium are claustrophobic, the suites are huge and feature a Jacuzzi and a sex chair.

After letting the water run, Lorrane started with a long, sloppy BBBJ. After donning a condom, Lorrane moved straight into reverse cowgirl, which seemed to be her favorite position. The girl sure has some moves! The view of her ass wriggling about as she was pumping my dick was simply spectacular!

After rotating through the various positions, Lorrane asked if I was ready for her bumbum. Doggy & sideways are the most common positions for anal, but Lorrane preferred missionary. Feeling my dick deep inside her ass while rolling my tongue deep inside her mouth was heavenly!

After a violent explosion, I relaxed in the Jacuzzi. Lorrane soon got back to sucking my dick. But she wouldn’t fuck in the Jacuzzi, as she was afraid the condom might slip off. Back to the bed, where we ran the gamut of positions again. Lorrane was rubbing her clit as I was drilling her. Her butt in reverse cowgirl was once again a sight to behold. Finally, Lorrane ripped the condom off. She wanted me to stick 2 fingers up her pussy while she was playing with her clit and sucking my dick. The ultimate porn star experience. Phenomenal!

BTW, I totally forgot about the sex chair. But I did take a picture of the “manual”. I’ll have to experiment with the chair one of these days.

Eduarda

When I got back to the boate, there was no sight of Eduarda. I figured she was doing a programa. There were plenty of girls and hardly any customers. The garotas were singing and dancing. They put me up on stage and danced all around me. I felt like a birthday boy and had a blast!

But time goes fast when you’re having fun. Suddenly it was closing time. Where was Eduarda? When I asked another girl, I couldn’t believe my ears when I heard her reply: “Ela bora. Não trabalha aqui mais. Não trabalha bem”. Eduarda was fired while I was doing a programa with Lorrane? :confused:

I was shocked! For the second night in a row, I missed out on Eduarda. :( Since I neglected to get her phone number, there was no way I could get in touch with her. I went to the little restaurant on the corner where we were supposed to meet, and reflected on what could have been...

Loso

Crypton
01-08-08, 19:47
Loso,

From the DVD cover pics you posted of Porn Star Lorrane, she seems to have a huge clit. How big was it in real life? Is that why she is called "two-in-one"? IN general Brazilian girls seem to have thick lips and larger than average clits.
Great reports by the way - sounds like you had a lot of fun.

Cheers,

Jasss
01-09-08, 01:39
Hi guys,

Can anyone help me out on any short time walk ups around the Copa area?

Jesuscola
01-09-08, 01:43
Loso,

From the DVD cover pics you posted of Porn Star Lorrane, she seems to have a huge clit. How big was it in real life? Is that why she is called "two-in-one"? IN general Brazilian girls seem to have thick lips and larger than average clits.
Great reports by the way - sounds like you had a lot of fun.

Cheers,

The huge clit means steriods. They take it to get that famous "brazilian bunda." A former favorite of everyone's out at Luomo actually had silicone implants in her ass, but she never told.

Carrib
01-09-08, 01:58
The huge clit means steriods. They take it to get that famous "brazilian bunda." A former favorite of everyone's out at Luomo actually had silicone implants in her ass, but she never told.

that is correct...she initially worked at Centaurus and moved to 4X4....

Loso69
01-09-08, 02:27
Thais

When I got back to my hotel after visiting Solarium on a Saturday night, I was still hungry for more. I called Cassia Scort. 3 girls were available (Thais, Elaine & Micaela). I didn’t have pictures of all the girls, so I asked the operator for a “rosto bonito”. Thais was my girl.

http://www.imaginart.com.br/cassiascort/thais

After a while, I went down to the hotel lobby. I noticed a girl getting out of a taxi and... going into the Formula 1 Hotel next door. Thais went to the wrong hotel, but she was my girl... minus the pretty face. :(

When we got to my room, Thais wouldn’t agree to pictures. That suited me just fine, as it gave me an excuse to send her back. I wasn’t attracted to her anyway.

Layne

When Thais called the agency, the operator recommended Layne as a replacement. When she came knocking on my door, I was much happier. She was still no beauty queen, but attractive enough to turn me on. And her attitude seemed great, as we were lip locked within seconds.

http://www.imaginart.com.br/cassiascort/layne

Layne couldn’t wait to get my clothes off. Once she had my dick in her sights, it soon disappeared into her mouth. Layne employed the “No hands” technique I so adore, and her sweet lips never lost touch with my dick until she tasted my leite. Excellent start!

I repaid her the favor by eating her pussy until she came. When Layne sat on my dick, her wet pussy felt great at first. But over time, Layne got so wet that I lost feeling and it was extremely difficult for me to shoot another load. Is one allowed to bi*ch about a girl having too many orgasms? :) I’m not complaining – it felt great to be able to fuck her so hard and so long. We went way into overtime, and Layne simply wouldn’t give up until she got another dose of my leite. In the end, she sucked it out of me – literally! :)

Loso

Loso69
01-09-08, 04:01
Rua Buenos Aires 85

On Monday afternoon, I met up with Mr. Enternational... outside Rua Buenos Aires 85. After having lunch at a nearby restaurant, Mr. Enternational had some unfinished business to attend to. :)

I’d never been to a 1 BRL/minute place and figured it would be an interesting experience. We made our way up the crowded spiral staircase, and inspected the offerings on each floor. Not surprisingly, there wasn’t a single girl I fancied.

Mr. Enternational’s girl worked on the 3rd floor and he wasted little time before taking her to a cabina. I ordered a beer and observed the scene. As on the other floors, the girls were old, fat or ugly. Most were all of the above. :)

There was one exception, though. One garota was constantly walking around, often talking to the cashier. Since it didn’t seem as if she belonged there, I figured she was the receptionist or something. When she finally stopped moving, I said “Ola!” To my surprise, she walked up to me, and said: “Programa?” I could fuck this beauty for 20 BRL? :eek:

At that point, Mr. Enternational came back from his session. “Are you gonna take her? Yep!” I paid the cashier 20 BRL and we were off...

Daniely opened the curtain and showed me into a small cabina with a single bed, which seemed clean enough. While waiting for her to come back, I got my camera out of my bag and got undressed. Daniely was wearing a sexy top & skirt, but came back wearing nothing but a towel, which she dropped straight away. Probably not the best time to ask if I could take a picture.

Daniely wrapped her arms around me and we started French kissing. She gave me a BBBJ for a couple of minutes. Fucking this beauty queen in this curtained off cabina really turned me on. I only had 20 minutes, but easily managed to blow my load within the allotted time. :)

Daniely disappeared again. When she came back, I finally asked her if I could take a picture. I didn’t figure a 20 BRL GDP would refuse to have her picture taken, especially since I was prepared to give her a big tip. I was wrong! Daniely didn’t wanna know and simply stormed off!

I had a 20 BRL trophy fuck and I failed to get a picture for my collection. Shit! Shit! Shit! :mad: Still, the fact that I could find a truly beautiful girl in a 1 BRL/minute place was a real eye opener.

Rua Almeida Martins 5

After having a drink at Cancun, we walked over to Rua Almeida Martins 5, which had been recommended by Christopherd. Unfortunately, they were redecorating and closed for 3 days.

So Gatas

Before heading off to meet a non-pro, Mr. Enternational showed me the way to So Gatas. Many thanks for the guided tour, Mr. Enternational!

I spotted 2 girls I really liked, but they were sitting with someone. And those bloody guys simply refused to leave!

I talked to Roberta, a pretty platinum blonde. She did “todo”... except pictures. I got impatient and went back to my stomping ground 4x4, to find ST and LT company. But I had a taste of fast foda today, and I’d be back for more tomorrow!

Loso

Pipe Layer99
01-09-08, 05:36
There are actually 2 girls that go by that name - Lohanni (spelling?).
One works at 4x4 and the other works at Solarium.

Both look similar and both have that big dragon/snake tattoo on their back.

4x4 girl - is a little bit taller (and displays a bit of an attitude). She will pull away and act hard to get, then take her time coming over to you. She did it to my boy last Jun, but ended up doing a session with him. Then she did it to me back in Nov. Soon afetr I talked to her again and she was good to go but had a strip tease to do. After her show I decided to pass and took another honey. I love that place.

Solarium girl - real name is Simone and she is simply a tigress in bed. In fact thats the nick name I gave her on my last trip.

Loso69
01-09-08, 06:16
There are actually 2 girls that go by that name - Lohanni (spelling?).
One works at 4x4 and the other works at Solarium.

Both look similar and both have that big dragon/snake tattoo on their back.

4x4 girl - is a little bit taller (and displays a bit of an attitude). She will pull away and act hard to get, then take her time coming over to you. She did it to my boy last Jun, but ended up doing a session with him. Then she did it to me back in Nov. Soon afetr I talked to her again and she was good to go but had a strip tease to do. After her show I decided to pass and took another honey. I love that place.

Solarium girl - real name is Simone and she is simply a tigress in bed. In fact thats the nick name I gave her on my last trip.

Yep, and I fucked them both. The name is pronounced Lohainy. When I saw her write down her name at 4x4, I thought it was spelled Lorrayne, but her screen name is definitely Lorrane.

They both have a snake tattooed on their back. The one from 4x4 is in full color. The one from Solarium is only an outline. The 4x4 girl is a morena. The Solarium girl is a loira. The 4x4 girl seemed quite a bit younger than the Solarium girl. They don’t look alike to me, but both are completa & great fucks.

Both girls were happy to spend time with me & do a programa. The one from Solarium was a little more difficult to get. Not that she’s stuck up. She’s just very popular.

Loso

JohnnyBraz
01-09-08, 09:13
The huge clit means steriods. They take it to get that famous "brazilian bunda." A former favorite of everyone's out at Luomo actually had silicone implants in her ass, but she never told.High testestorone production in women will enlarge the clitorus, but will also have damagening effects on the rest off her body. Deepning off the voice, facial hair ec t. Also alot safer for women, is high levels of growth hormone, which will cause enlargment off every cell in her body, and will also slow down the rate that her body will age also, clean all mayjor organs. But I supose this would be far to expensive for any brazilian gdp. Without the main hormone thing, alot off people don't realise that the pill is synthetic estogen, which causes the female body to run off synthetic estogen levels insted off natural ones, there for it becomes 98% effective off stoping her falling pregnent, due to her natural estogen levels falling, because her body is running off synthetic ones. The same for when a man is taking testostorone injections, his natural testostorone levels will slowly decreese, working the same as the pill.

JohnnyBraz
01-09-08, 09:42
Rio joe,

Do you have any photos of juliana? I read the article in the australian hustler in 2005. That was waht sent me to Rio. Also where did she live in a favela, out off Rio?

Jesuscola
01-09-08, 14:11
High testestorone production in women will enlarge the clitorus, but will also have damagening effects on the rest off her body. Deepning off the voice, facial hair ec t. Also alot safer for women, is high levels of growth hormone, which will cause enlargment off every cell in her body, and will also slow down the rate that her body will age also, clean all mayjor organs. But I supose this would be far to expensive for any brazilian gdp. Without the main hormone thing, alot off people don't realise that the pill is synthetic estogen, which causes the female body to run off synthetic estogen levels insted off natural ones, there for it becomes 98% effective off stoping her falling pregnent, due to her natural estogen levels falling, because her body is running off synthetic ones. The same for when a man is taking testostorone injections, his natural testostorone levels will slowly decreese, working the same as the pill.

Fair enough. But steriods are very common in Rio and easy to get. And I have personally known a lot of GDPs who used them to try to get that "perfect bunda." I think it's ridiculous, but they usually don't listen. They call it "bomba."

I was seeing a girl, and she started going to the gym. She came home one day and said that a girl told her she just needed to take "bomba," and had given her some. I explained to her that they were steriods and would make her voice drop, give her a square jaw, and make her clit huge. She literally had no idea. Anyway, she threw the stuff away. But that's how common it is, and how easy it is to aquire--and about how much the girls know when they get started.

Bravo
01-09-08, 16:04
Lorrane from solarium is back at 4X4. She has changed her hair back to black and she stopped using the steroids because she is much smaller in size. (Both lorrane's have dragon tattoos on thier backs)

American Warrior
01-09-08, 23:00
Donnie D.

Solarium girl - real name is Simone and she is simply a tigress in bed. In fact thats the nick name I gave her on my last trip.[/QUOTE]

Was Simone at one time blonde? Any pictures of her face? I believe I was with her in 2006 and I am excited that she is there because I believed she at one time quit (lol); do they ever quit? Anyway I will find out for myself next week with my brother as my side kick

Loso69
01-10-08, 01:19
Was Simone at one time blonde? Any pictures of her face?

She was a blonde in June 2007. No face, though.

Loso

Bravo
01-10-08, 01:53
Donnie D.

Solarium girl - real name is Simone and she is simply a tigress in bed. In fact thats the nick name I gave her on my last trip.

Was Simone at one time blonde? Any pictures of her face? I believe I was with her in 2006 and I am excited that she is there because I believed she at one time quit (lol); do they ever quit? Anyway I will find out for myself next week with my brother as my side kick[/QUOTE]

Lorrane has done porn and been a model for a number of websites, I highly doubt if she would mind a foto of her face. This is her, she is back at 4X4, so now you can get her for 180R instead of 290:-)

Loso69
01-10-08, 03:13
Lorrane has done porn and been a model for a number of websites, I highly doubt if she would mind a foto of her face. This is her, she is back at 4X4, so now you can get her for 180R instead of 290:-)

Would you mind giving some more details? Sites she's appeared on? Movies she's appeared in? I collect DVDs of porn stars I've fucked. :)

Loso

Pipe Layer99
01-10-08, 03:23
Nice pics of the honeys. Brings back sweet memories. Now I remember why I call the one from Solarium 'Tigress' - its that big ass cat on her lower back. Yeah baby!


Yep, and I fucked them both. The name is pronounced Lohainy. When I saw her write down her name at 4x4, I thought it was spelled Lorrayne, but her screen name is definitely Lorrane.

They both have a snake tattooed on their back. The one from 4x4 is in full color. The one from Solarium is only an outline. The 4x4 girl is a morena. The Solarium girl is a loira. The 4x4 girl seemed quite a bit younger than the Solarium girl. They don’t look alike to me, but both are completa & great fucks.

Both girls were happy to spend time with me & do a programa. The one from Solarium was a little more difficult to get. Not that she’s stuck up. She’s just very popular.

Loso

Pipe Layer99
01-10-08, 03:36
I've only seen them both with dark hair. As you know, they can change their hair at any time.
Check out Loso's pics of them below - the bad ass honey from Solarium is shown with blonde hair.
Have fun and let me know how she was this trip. And save some for me!!! Donnie


Donnie D.

Solarium girl - real name is Simone and she is simply a tigress in bed. In fact thats the nick name I gave her on my last trip.

Was Simone at one time blonde? Any pictures of her face? I believe I was with her in 2006 and I am excited that she is there because I believed she at one time quit (lol); do they ever quit? Anyway I will find out for myself next week with my brother as my side kick

Loso69
01-10-08, 06:37
Prelude

The “Dia das Namorados” would be my last day in Rio. After getting a taste of fast foda yesterday, I planned on getting an overdose today...

Club 81

Ellen

My first stop was Club 81, which Mr. Enternational had shown me the previous day. My eyes soon fell on an adorable-looking ebony beauty. When I talked to Ellen, it turned out this cutie pie was only 18 yo. She seemed to be a real sweetheart and we were soon headed upstairs.

Ellen wouldn’t kiss me in the boate, but our tongues were soon intertwined once we were inside the room. Her pectoral assets were barely concealed by her skimpy bra, and when she took it off... those gravity-defying tits sure had the wow factor.

Ellen spent quite some time with my dick in her mouth, but still had to learn proper blowjob technique – she only wrapped her lips around my dick and failed to caress it with her tongue. She was an energetic fuck, though.

As I was drilling her quatro, I wanted to try the extra hole as well. Ellen told me she was completa in the boate, but now she wanted an extra 50 BRL to open her back door. :mad: Fuck that! I just drilled her pussy until I exploded.

After snapping a couple more pictures, it was time for round 2. After another long BBBJ, I drilled her tight pussy until the bell rang.

Sofia

Just as I was ready to head upstairs with Ellen, I spotted a really cute blonde. You know the saying: “Love the one you’re with!” But on this “Dia das Namorados”, I was ready to spread my love around. When I noticed Sofia sitting alone as I came back from my programa with Ellen, I sat down next to her...

I explained that I’d just finished a programa, but wanted another session with her, provided she could wait. No problem! I had a couple of beers left. We spent the next hour chatting and drinking.

Sofia had fire in her eyes. But she still wouldn’t kiss me in the boate. From my experience, intimate foreplay in the boate is limited to the upscale termas. But once the door was closed, the tigress in her came out. Sofia literally jumped on me. The way she kissed me, you’d have thought she just spent a year in jail and was dying to feel a hard dick inside her. In fact, Sofia used to have an Italian boyfriend... but hadn’t been with a foreigner since they split up. :)

I managed to keep Sofia away from my pants long enough to snap a few pictures, before I unleashed the little devil. She practically ripped my clothes off and started sucking my dick straight away. Unlike Ellen, Sofia didn’t have anything to learn... she’s a certified blowjob instructor. :)

Sofia pumped and grinded my dick until she had a violent orgasm. I drilled both holes with everything I had. Sofia seemed to love every minute if it, as she was spurring me on to fuck her harder and faster. A monster fuck with this amazingly horny creature left plenty of wet spots on the bed... mostly my sweat. :)

After drying off with a towel, Sofia got straight back to sucking my dick. Even though I was thoroughly drained, I was so horny for Sofia that I wanted to get straight back in the saddle. The bell prevented further loss of fluids. :)

Whiskeria Aquarius

Thais

After 2 sessions at Club 81, I needed some fast foda of a different kind... McDonald’s. My next port of call was Whiskeria Aquarius. A few of the garotas were doable, but Thais was the undisputed star. As she walked from one side of the boate to the other, I intercepted her and escorted her to my seat.

As Thais was wearing a flowery tiara, I called her “Minha princesa”. We were getting along great... until I asked her if I could take pictures.

Thais told me the story of a girl who lost custody of her kids when her ex-husband used Internet pictures to prove she was a GDP. She was terrified her daughter’s father would see the pictures. Since I wasn’t able to sweet talk her, I had to bribe her.

When we got to the room, I couldn’t believe my eyes. The rooms were bigger and nicer than the suites at 4x4! Hot water shower, toilet, great-working A/C. Wonderful facilities!

Thais started with a good BBBJ. She wanted me to penetrate her first. She was tight! Thais soon took over and grinded my dick hard, pursuing her own orgasm. I drilled her in a variety of positions and finally came... after the bell... leaving another bed full of wet spots.

Florida Club

Bruna

More protein intake was required! I had a couple of sandwiches at the Florida Bar on Praça Maua, before heading into the Florida Club. To my surprise, the place looked pretty upscale, with rotating lights and a laser show.

When Bruna appeared on stage, my eyes popped. She was tall & slender, with flowing dark hair & (natural) blue eyes. She looked like a goddess to me, yet the locals showed no interest in her whatsoever. Não bunda! Once she was by my side, Bruna told me that virtually all her customers are foreigners. When I enquired why a beauty like her didn’t work in a more upscale place with more foreigners, she replied that her relatives visited places like 4x4. They never came here.

Bruna adores dancing. Her exemplary figure is testament to that. We spent over an hour dancing together; Bruna never even mentioned a programa. In the end, I asked her...

The rooms at the Florida Club are in the attic. Tilted ceiling. Fluorescent lights. Hard bed. Bruna loved to kiss, but would only give me a CBJ. 9 days and 18 girls. My final garota blemished my perfect record. Since there were no shower facilities, I couldn’t really blame her.

Bruna fucks the way she dances – with tons of energy. Even though it was my 4th programa of the day, I came easily. Those fabulous blue eyes...

Epilogue

Between 4 PM and 4 AM, I did 4 programas. My last day in Rio was both an adventure and a resounding success. But after a couple of hours of sleep, I’d be catching a bus back to São Paulo.

Loso

Jan 156
01-10-08, 18:12
Following Loso´s excellent report I thought I´d do a bit more to publicise this area.

Ibis is now 119R weekdays and a bit cheaper at weekends. It goes to 269R at Carnaval. The place next door which Loso pointed out to me called Formule1 and is part of the same group. The daily rate (in spite of the internet showing 40R) is 99R, and this will go up to 155R in Carnaval. The Formule is more homely than Ibis, has a sort of student feel to the rooms (a room for three has a bunk bed over the top of the double bed). No fridge or air con but otherwise similar in many respects. You can even use the same internet card (10R an hour) in both. WiFi in both for those that like it.

The Ibis is a good solid hotel up to Western standards and more or less on a par with their other international ones, ie good but basic. There´s an empty fridge, a tv, a first rate shower, a mini safe that you programme, but no hairdryer that I´ve seen or trouser press, no tea or coffee maker or even a kettle. A basic breakfast is 9.5R. Dry cleaning service (I´ll wash my own thanks - or use the lavadrio nearby). Both Ibis and Formule are cool with guests it seems.

Unlike Belas Artes. This is a lovely hotel about 100yds away on R. Visconde do Rio Branco (which is a continuation of Rua Carioca out past Praca Tiradentes). It´s cheap and respectable about 65R if I remember right but they have a no guests policy stressing it is a family hotel. There are several by-the-hour places like Hotel Universo (also on ViscoBranc.) They charge 30R a day and I think it was 12R for the hour. Hotel Concordia was R12 an hour or 45R a day.

My landlady has let my usual flat out and her mates have doubled their asking rate in tresponse to Carnaval. I´ll buy her lunch and remonstrate a bit but kinda like it here in Centro.

Anyway, have checked in and got on with essentials like money (GBP was 3.65R at the cambio on Miguel Couto, and I noticed the dollar was 1.77 with no commissiojn fee.), topping up my Brasilian SIM and cheap drugs. Then a quick whiff of the Uruguiana knock-shop to remind me I am in Rio (several do-ables but I am still recovering from a very hassle-filled flight).

Loso has to walk a bit further to his posh knock shops whereas two of my faves (Carioca 59 and Casarao) are almost on the doorstep here. And there´s buses from R.Carioca to Mimosa, so excuse me if I sound like a pig in sh*t . . . .

(by the way, I apologise for saying not long ago that the airport cambio was good value. It used to be. Today it was quite a bit lower than the Centro one. You could always phone the Centro one for rates - no. is 2109-8900. Miguel Couto is just off the middle of Rio Branco, Uruguiana side.)

Loso69
01-10-08, 19:11
Ibis is now 119R weekdays and a bit cheaper at weekends.


99 BRL on weekends and 119 BRL on weekdays is exactly what I paid in June. The Internet site seems to indicate that the rates have gone up to 119 BRL and 139 BRL, respectively.

http://www.accorhotels.com/accorhotels/fichehotel/gb/ibi/5534/fiche_hotel.shtml



The place next door which Loso pointed out to me called Formule1 and is part of the same group. The daily rate (in spite of the internet showing 40R) is 99R.


http://www.accorhotels.com/accorhotels/fichehotel/gb/for/5521/fiche_hotel.shtml

The Internet site does state: “depending on country”. Is 99 BRL the special rate for “rich Brits”? :)



WiFi in both for those that like it.


12 BRL/24 hours.



Both Ibis and Formule are cool with guests it seems.


The Ibis hotel does not charge joiner fees. I called them to confirm that before I checked in. I had escorts turn up at reception. I had girls spend the night with me. No extra charge.



Loso has to walk a bit further to his posh knock shops.


I wish I could walk to a posh knock shop right now. Or even hop on a bus to VM with you. :) Since I’m back home now, that’s not an option. The good news is that I’ll be flying to Asia for a 2 month trip next Monday.

Have fun out there! And send Sofia from Club 81 my love if you have the chance. You may even wanna splash out and do a programa with her. You may consider my posh knock shops expensive, but you won't regret it if you spend 50 BRL on her. :)

Loso

Pelicano
01-10-08, 20:34
Loso69:
Great series of Centro reports, for which I am sure, you had a great time gathering the material.

Just to add a little to the topic, I am sending a scan of the cards distributed on the street, with the info on some of these Centro places we visited in November. Gatas Vips was the best one of them, with ample rooms, good lighting in the bar area and a good selection of garotas.

There was a slight difficulty in locating the place, located on Imperatriz Leopoldina #8 upstairs. I is on a dead end street, which starts in the middle of Praca Tiradentes. (See attached map.)

Return soon to continue discovering the Centro and keep on sending these great reports.

Jan 156
01-10-08, 22:12
99 BRL on weekends and 119 BRL on weekdays is exactly what I paid in June. The Internet site seems to indicate that the rates have gone up to 119 BRL and 139 BRL, respectively.

http://www.accorhotels.com/accorhotels/fichehotel/gb/ibi/5534/fiche_hotel.shtml

Oh bugger - that´s what I meant - sorry folks!



Have fun out there! And send Sofia from Club 81 my love if you have the chance. You may even wanna splash out and do a programa with her. You may consider my posh knock shops expensive, but you won't regret it if you spend 50 BRL on her. :)
Loso

Thanks - I might splash out. Thanks also to Pelicano who pointed out another bargain shop nearby. I popped over to see some mates in Copa and was amazed at how much walking you have to do in that place. Here it is more on tap (except for late evenings - though one can walk up to the Rua Acre area which has places open very late or go to the posh ones I suppose.)

I´ll post some other stuff on accomm in the appropriate thread

Leblon
01-11-08, 00:04
Fair enough. But steriods are very common in Rio and easy to get. And I have personally known a lot of GDPs who used them to try to get that "perfect bunda." I think it's ridiculous, but they usually don't listen. They call it "bomba."

I was seeing a girl, and she started going to the gym. She came home one day and said that a girl told her she just needed to take "bomba," and had given her some. I explained to her that they were steriods and would make her voice drop, give her a square jaw, and make her clit huge. She literally had no idea. Anyway, she threw the stuff away. But that's how common it is, and how easy it is to aquire--and about how much the girls know when they get started.Wow, every day you learn something new. I know a girl from Copacapana (*****) beach, who has what I think perfect body, especially bunda (ass). But I was afraid to go with her, because her voice is so slow, I was thinking that maybe she is not woman after all. When I finally started to doing sex with her (I am glad that I did), I was surprised how come her clithoris is so big.

This explains everything.

Kcrl01
01-11-08, 01:33
Loso69:

Great series of Centro reports, for which I am sure, you had a great time gathering the material.

Return soon to continue discovering the Centro and keep on sending these great reports.This might help you a bit.

Romello
01-11-08, 04:00
EllenIs definately a hottie!

Loso69
01-11-08, 04:42
Timing

I was in Rio de Janeiro:

June 4 - June 12 (9 nights)

Statistics

During my 9-day stay in Rio de Janeiro, I had:

ST: 18
LT: 2
Girls: 19

Upscale Termas

Quatro por Quatro

Information

- Address
* Rua Buenos Aires 44

- Entrance Fee
* 40 BRL
* Waved if you do a programa before 5PM.

- Programas
* Cabina - 40 min - 160 BRL
* Simple Suite - 60 min - 180 BRL

- They also offer more expensive programas in special suites, but I didn't take note of the prices.
- Compared to 2 years ago, prices have gone up by just 10 BRL.

Observations

As I was sitting in the metro on the way to my second visit, I suddenly realized: “I’m not carrying a map. I haven’t walked to 4x4 in 2 years. Will I be able to find the place?” I instinctively made the right turns. It was as if the 4x4 babes’ magnetic shield was drawing me in. 4x4 occupies a special place in my heart. That explains why I spent almost 4 entire days in 4x4. Bliss!

4x4 still has plenty of hotties on offer. The garotas still provide great service. It’s still a great place to party. 4x4 retains its crown as the greatest P4P venue in the world!

A few negatives, though. Compared to 2 years ago:
- The girls seemed less eager to spend time with you in the boate.
- The garotas were less inclined to agree to pictures.
- They redecorated. The photogenic wood/mirror background is a thing of the past.

Cancun

Information

- Address
* Rua do Carmo 64

- Entrance Fee
* 30 BRL
* My beer was free.
* Mr. Enternational had to pay for his caipirinha. They even tried to overcharge him!

- Programas
* Cabina - 40 min - 160 BRL
* Suite - 60 min - 180 BRL
* Royal Suite - 90 min - 300 BRL

Observations

Mr. Enternational and I visited Cancun on a Monday afternoon. The boate seemed empty. I counted 17 girls and a handful of customers. The place looked great, but lacked atmosphere and felt sterile. The girls weren’t nearly as friendly as in 4x4 either. I was interested in a hot mulatta, but she didn’t give me the right vibes.

Neither Mr. Enternational nor I were impressed. Then again, maybe we visited the wrong day of the week. Or maybe we were too early.

Solarium

Information

- Address
* Rua JJ Seabra 21

- Entrance Fee
* 60 BRL

- Programas
* Cabina - 40 min - 60 BRL (Room) + 130 BRL (Garota) = 190 BRL
* Suite - 60 min - 80 BRL (Room) + 200 BRL (Garota) = 280 BRL

At Solarium, there’s a huge difference between the cabinas and the suites. The claustrophobic cabinas are smaller than a double bed and have no en-suite facilities. The colored ceilings make photography difficult. The suites are absolutely huge and feature a Jacuzzi, a sex chair, a shower, a toilet and white ceilings.

Observations

All the girls seemed to speak English. I didn’t like their "Vamos" attitude on a Saturday night. But I still ended up meeting a real winner.

On Sunday night, it seemed like a totally different place. Change of girls. Change of attitude. The place had a real party atmosphere, even though there were few customers. I had a ball, both in the boate and in the suite with Lorrane.

And then there was Eduarda. Such a shame we failed to hook up. Too bad if she got fired for agreeing to meet me outside. Hopefully, we’ll meet again...

Lower End Places

Rua Buenos Aires 85

Information

- Entrance Fee
* None

- Programas
* 1 BRL/minute

Observations

For the locals, it’s the stairway to heaven. Most foreigners would probably consider it the stairway to hell. It’s difficult for 2 people to pass on that spiral staircase, so don’t expect a smooth passage. But you can take a break on each floor and check out the talent.

The cabinas are only separated by curtains, which lends the place a false air of exhibitionism. The facilities are obviously basic, but seemed clean enough.

1 BRL/minute is as cheap as it gets in Rio, and it shows – the overall quality of the garotas is very low. But in between the rubble, you may discover a true gem. I wish I could show you my 20 BRL trophy fuck. If anyone has managed to snap a picture of Daniely, I’d be eternally grateful.

Club 81

Information

- Address
* Rua da Quitanda 81

- Entrance Fee
* 10 BRL
* Includes 3 cans of beer or soft drinks

- Programas
* 30 min - 50 BRL
* 60 min - 100 BRL

Add 10 BRL for kit (towels, soap, condoms)

Observations

There were about 10 girls on duty when I visited, 2 of which were really cute. Ellen was an inexperienced 18 yo Ebony beauty. Blonde Sofia totally rocked my world.

All the rooms are different and many look kinda funky. Pink walls with white hearts, multi-colored splashes of paint combined with surreal art... The showers more or less have hot water. The A/C more or less works. It ain’t the Ritz, but the place has character.

Whiskeria Aquarius

Information

- Address
* Rua Acre 61

- Entrance Fee
* 10 BRL
* Includes 2 small draft beers

- Programas
* 20 min - 50 BRL
* 30 min - 70 BRL
* 40 min - 90 BRL
* 60 min - 110 BRL

Add 5 BRL if you pay by CC.

Observations

Whiskeria Aquarius is attached to Termas Aquarius, but I only checked out the whiskeria. There were about 10 girls present. Several of them were doable, but Thais was the undisputed star.

A huge plus are the magnificent facilities. The rooms are 3 years old, but look brand new. The large rooms feature a hot water shower, a toilet and great-working A/C and are better than in most of the upscale termas.

Club Florida

Information

- Address
* Praça Maua 9

- Entrance Fee
* 10 BRL minimum consumption
* Beers are 4 BRL

- Programas
* 30 min - 50 BRL
* 45 min - 70 BRL
* 60 min - 100 BRL

Their price structure doesn’t make any sense, but those are the prices that were displayed on the board.

Observations

Club Florida is an upscale-looking club with rotating lights and laser shows. The girls dance on an elevated stage. The only girl who tickled my fancy was Bruna. Gazing into her blue eyes was a slice of heaven.

While the club looks upscale, the rooms definitely aren’t. The attic rooms have tilted ceilings, fluorescent lighting and a really hard bed. There are no shower facilities.

One interesting thing I noted is that Florida Club is open on Saturdays! :)

General

I thought that looking for a beautiful girl in the lower end places would be like looking for a needle in a haystack. I couldn’t have been more wrong. Every single venue I visited had at least one girl I was happy to do a programa with. And I’m pretty picky in Rio!

Of course, the overall quality is lower. If I went to 4x4 every day for a week and fucked 3 girls a day, I would be in no danger of running out of girls to fuck. The lower end places generally only had 1-2 girls I really liked. But that’s all you need!

Many of the lower end places may only merit a single visit, but since Centro is littered with them, that still represents a great number of top notch garotas available at bargain prices. For my next trip, I’ll be preparing a long list...

Surprisingly, the garotas in the lower end places were in less of a hurry to head upstairs then the girls in the upscale places. On the other hand, the upscale girls got a lot more intimate in the boate than their sisters from lower end places. In the fast foda places I visited, French kissing in the boate seemed to be a non-no. In the upscale termas, I require a good make-out session in the boate before agreeing to a programa.

Overall, I would say the upscale termas girls had an edge in terms of service as well. In some ways, you get what you pay for. But the girls from the lower end places are still great value, especially if you opt for the shorter programas.

Escort Agencies

Karla Models

- Web Site
* http://www.karlamodels.net

- Prices
* 100 BRL for 2 hours
* 50 BRL for taxi to Copacabana

Malu Models

- Web Site
* http://www.malumodels.com

- Prices
* 100 BRL for 1 hour
* 150 BRL for 2 hours
* 35 BRL for taxi to Copacabana

Cassia Scort

- Web Site
* http://www.cassiascort.com

- Prices
* 100 BRL for 2 hours
* 300 BRL overnight
* 30 BRL for taxi to Centro

General

On my last trip, I fucked a lot of escorts. On this trip, I only called the escort agencies when there were no other alternatives. 2 years ago, I was disappointed with the girls’ looks on occasion, but I also had some real beauties knocking on my door. This time around, I had the feeling that the quality had gone down. Of course, this conclusion is based on a small sample size. As before, I had few complaints about the service provided by the agency girls.

Resolutions

At the end of my previous trip report, these were my resolutions:

- Look into the possibility of renting an apartment in Centro (or finding a hotel).
- Spend (even) more time in the termas in Centro.
- Invite termas girls to spend the night with me.
- Check out the budget termas and cheap brothels.
- Still use the escort agencies, but not as much as on this trip.
- Try and see more of the tourist attractions.
- Never go anywhere near Copacabana.

On this trip, I did all of the above. Well, except for the tourist attractions. I am a monger at heart. :) I avoided the tourist putas like the plague. By doing so, this trip was 100% hassle-free. I had a blast in the Centro termas. I had a great time exploring the lower end places.

The LT statistics were disappointing (2 out of 9). The crummy apartment, the public holiday and the bad luck with Eduarda are to blame for that.

My resolutions for the next trip:
- Stay in Centro.
- Party in the upscale Centro termas.
- Spend a lot more time exploring the lower end places in Centro.
- Bring a termas girl home every night (upscale or lower end).
- Check out the Lapa clubs.
- Only use the escort agencies in emergencies.
- Try and see more of the tourist attractions.
- Don’t wait for another 2 years before returning to Rio.

Yep, I kept the tourist attractions in. I like to be ambitious. :) Copacabana? Not even worth mentioning.

Final Words

After visiting 6 countries in the Caribbean & South America, only the Cidade Maravilhosa has earned its place on the A-list. The Centro termas still rock. There’s a whole world of budget places waiting to be explored. I’ll be back!

Loso

Smokers Rule
01-11-08, 05:04
Loso -- I would like to THANK YOU for your informative, detailed, well-organized reports. I am planning my first trip to Rio in a few months, and your info will save me hours and hours. Good work!

Jan 156
01-11-08, 05:23
spent 45mins phoning and texting a regular Copa GDP (boite girl) who usually stays all night and till I kick her out. I always pay her 100R. (and nothing if we go out for fun with no sex involved). She has Carnaval fever. Shocked I would only pay her that now. When I eventually haggle her down, I have lost interest. At least she paid for the call.

Mimosa. Will take the first good looking girl that gives me a rise. It is heaving with beauties tonight. Which is good cos I spent nearly 10R on a taxi. I need some TLC and am looking for someone I might know. Chatting to a guy I always chat to who has a food stall. Karen accosts me. Grabs my cock thru my trousers, comments on the size to her pal, butts me with her arse (I am still trying to chat to the food stall guy who´s a nice honest bloke.) Karen yanks her bottoms down and repeats the attack on my trouser-front with bare cheeks. I kind of remember that the last (and only) time I had her she was a bit temperemental so would normally avoid her, but I had promised myself . . .

In the cabin she is incredibly energetic, eager to do do several positions and throwing in less than convincing ´orgasms´ if I as much as wimper enjoyment. And so on. Sure enough, after the sex she starts hassling for a tip of 10 or 5R which really pisses me off. Needless to say she doesn´t get it (though I do go back a little later and give her a little something nice (non-financial) to appease he huffiness - I like to get on with folk.)

A bit later and I see Brenda. Now Brenda is gorgeous. Gorgeous body and gorgeous personality. Very petite, a smile that melts you in half, eyes that light up your day. She doesn´t say anything, just stands there and *twinkles*. She speaks no English and her Portuguese is too fast for me. But she does remember I did a nice photo for her last year. I am pleased to see her. I´m not sure if she is being friendly or wants to f*ck (yes, duh, I know, but there are many many Brasilian young hunks about tonight and I am not feeling super-confident). I ask if she would like a drink or sex. She settles for the latter, seems genuinely thrilled. A bit reserved initially. I kiss every part of her tiny body that she allows and gradually she lets me down to her large beautiful clit. Now how do you tell someone who´s giving head that they are doing it right (without giving verbal)? An ex of mine suggested lots of ´mmmm´s at the right places (this might sound backward to Americans but we Brits can be a shy lot and also find too much talking - rather than intuitive communication - a turn off. Or at least I can). Eventually I get the caressing hand on the head. I quickly memorise the rate and angle I am flicking her clit with the end of my tongue. I have just started some exploratory pressure on the area just above the pubic bone (which seems to do it for some ladies) so continue with that. Then I try a little finger moving quickly at the entrance of her hole (I saw this one on a porn movie - amazing what smut can teach one lol). After a while there are occasional jerks of her body. Another few minutes and her body seizes into an arc with a sound as if she is gripping the edge of a cliff and hauling herself back. I time it till she is starting to relax, slowing my tongue movements and making them softer and more caressing. She eyes me, realising we are over time and my cock is still un- seen to. I enter her gently. Brenda has one of those faces and bodies that is wonderful and inspiring to look at while doing the business down there. I try to examine every millimetre of her with my eyes, inhaling the privilege of shagging such a beautiful chick. Then there´s this bit I always find worrying when I don´t know a girl very very well - is she going to come a second time or would she rather I get on with it, so to speak? Well she is working so I think it is more gentlemanly to get on with it and just give myself up to the sensations of her beautiful warm hole squeezing my manhood. F*ck it. I go home happy.

(I have stupidly not figured out what bus to get back from Mimosa - ie Praca Bandeira. I am about to give up when I see something with ´Tiradentes´ on the front and lurch hazardously into the traffic to stop it. Cool.)



ps I can´t remember the number of the bus back - it was a 2.10R one - will have to look it up in the Ruas in case it usually goes further than Tiradentes except at that time of night or something. But for others staying in that part of Centro who want to get public transport to VM, the bus *going* is a 226.

Hitmanm3
01-11-08, 06:22
This might help you a bit.Is this map in any of the forums?

I would like to check it out and print it for my next trip.

JohnnyBraz
01-11-08, 08:51
Fair enough. But steriods are very common in Rio and easy to get. And I have personally known a lot of GDPs who used them to try to get that "perfect bunda." I think it's ridiculous, but they usually don't listen. They call it "bomba."

I was seeing a girl, and she started going to the gym. She came home one day and said that a girl told her she just needed to take "bomba," and had given her some. I explained to her that they were steriods and would make her voice drop, give her a square jaw, and make her clit huge. She literally had no idea. Anyway, she threw the stuff away. But that's how common it is, and how easy it is to aquire--and about how much the girls know when they get started.What alot off these women don't realsie is that high test levels will actually decrease the size off there arse, but if they increace estogen levels with high sodium levels it will cause there electrolyte balance to work overboard increasing water retention to fatty deposits ie. Arse, thighs ect. Where estogen carries in women. But the masculan side effects in women are irreversible. Foolish un educated women.

Rio Lover #2
01-11-08, 12:50
Loso,

THANKS for all your detailed posts. All of them with very useful information

RL

Piper1
01-11-08, 13:55
Loso,

THANKS for all your detailed posts. All of them with very useful information

RLI second that. Great research. ;) I'll be printing it out, binding it, and carrying the book with me in Rio in July. Thanks Loso.

Thanos
01-11-08, 18:15
What alot off these women don't realsie is that high test levels will actually decrease the size off there arse, but if they increace estogen levels with high sodium levels it will cause there electrolyte balance to work overboard increasing water retention to fatty deposits ie. Arse, thighs ect. Where estogen carries in women. But the masculan side effects in women are irreversible. Foolish un educated women.They know exactly what they are doing. They are like athletes who take steroids for the short term benefits of making more money. Bigger butt. Bigger legs equal bigger paydays. They are gdps. Do you really think they worry about steroid side affects 10 years down the line?

Jan 156
01-11-08, 19:15
Although I agree with Loso´s facts, I disagree with his assessment, but as everyone will have gathered there are two main camps on the board - those that mainly prefer upmarket places and those that like cheap and nasty as they are referred to.

My own estimation of places like 4x4 is that they are a phenomenon - I always visit from time to time. But it is like going to a hotel - if I´m staying in a cheap motel I don´t complain too much; if I´m paying Sheraton prices I expect things to be done rather better.

4x4 is great and no monger visiting Rio should miss it. But I find the quality of service very variable (though not as variable as Aquarios). The rooms in upmarket termas are often far too cold for my liking. And the girls often remind me of those upmarket pre-packaged meals you can get from better supermarkets. Their fingernails are done to perfection. Their smiles are practiced. Some of them speak a bit of English. Some of them have a smattering of education.

But I will give anyone this challenge. I know fellow mongers like to see photos and I don´t post recognisable photos of girls on the web. But I´ve put a slide show collection of some of the best on the photo feature of my phone for anyone who´s here and wants to meet up. It´s just of the most recent 2 to 3 yrs max - and I haven´t tried to emphasise one venue over the other. But if you made a top ten of looks, most of the 4x4 and other top terma girls would not be on it. It´s also my own opinion, based on several hundred girls from all pricing levels. The expensive ones are nicely packaged, but you cannot, IMO, beat getting your food fresh from the market and preparing it yourself ;-)

Of course, for some people it is not the body or attitude that is most important. They require fresh sheets, clean smelling rooms and so on. They like a nice glass of wine at the bar first. And they like all the possible choices to be of a certain minimum quality. In which case you cannot beat 4x4. But I cannot stand to see people slyly knocking fabulous girls from cheap parlours when they have made limited effort to penetrate the best parts of such places or get to know the best girls. To each his own.

Thanos
01-11-08, 19:58
Although I agree with Loso´s facts, I disagree with his assessment, but as everyone will have gathered there are two main camps on the board - those that mainly prefer upmarket places and those that like cheap and nasty as they are referred to.

My own estimation of places like 4x4 is that they are a phenomenon - I always visit from time to time. But it is like going to a hotel - if I´m staying in a cheap motel I don´t complain too much; if I´m paying Sheraton prices I expect things to be done rather better.

4x4 is great and no monger visiting Rio should miss it. But I find the quality of service very variable (though not as variable as Aquarios). The rooms in upmarket termas are often far too cold for my liking. And the girls often remind me of those upmarket pre-packaged meals you can get from better supermarkets. Their fingernails are done to perfection. Their smiles are practiced. Some of them speak a bit of English. Some of them have a smattering of education.

But I will give anyone this challenge. I know fellow mongers like to see photos and I don´t post recognisable photos of girls on the web. But I´ve put a slide show collection of some of the best on the photo feature of my phone for anyone who´s here and wants to meet up. It´s just of the most recent 2 to 3 yrs max - and I haven´t tried to emphasise one venue over the other. But if you made a top ten of looks, most of the 4x4 and other top terma girls would not be on it. It´s also my own opinion, based on several hundred girls from all pricing levels. The expensive ones are nicely packaged, but you cannot, IMO, beat getting your food fresh from the market and preparing it yourself ;-)

Of course, for some people it is not the body or attitude that is most important. They require fresh sheets, clean smelling rooms and so on. They like a nice glass of wine at the bar first. And they like all the possible choices to be of a certain minimum quality. In which case you cannot beat 4x4. But I cannot stand to see people slyly knocking fabulous girls from cheap parlours when they have made limited effort to penetrate the best parts of such places or get to know the best girls. To each his own.While I agree that fabulous girls (subjective because one guys fabulous might be another guys pig) can be found in even the cheapest of venues the quality X quanity of girls is not even close in true upmarket places vs the cheaper venues. 4x4 is not upscale. It may be compared to places like the VM whom even the brazilians refer to as an Area Trash on gpguia.net. But there are much better venues when it comes to the facilities. Bahamas and Bamboa in SP are true upscale places and it would be no contest if you lined those girls up against the girls from the cheap parlors. Same with Barbarellas. There's always going to be that one girl at the VM who could easily match up against any girl anywhere. That diamond in the rough but overall the girls at more upscale places are better looking. Rio antigo maybe being the exception. Now I know that's a matter of tastes because some guys like a little chipped nail polish or a battle scar here or there but for most guys having to sift through 50 dogs to find one beauty is not their idea of a good night while for others finding that pearl is heaven. If you really made a top ten of looks regular non-gdp girls would win out hands down. It seems that the tastes of alot of mongers has drifted to thin girls with small bundas, nice breasts and cute faces. Essentially california girls. They don't find the traditional brazilian big bunda girls attractive and thus don't find termas girls attractive because the big bunda girls are who the termas employ. I've seen the photos recently in the photo section. Guys are raving over thin girls with cute faces some of whom don't even look brazilian.

Euro100
01-12-08, 01:16
.. I spent nearly 10R on a taxi ...

You ... taking a taxi to VM? That doesn't sound like the Chris I know. I thought 2.1R was your max for a trip to VM. :D

Great report on the encounter with Brenda, by the way! You are a much braver man than I to go for DATY at VM. ;)

Jan 156
01-12-08, 06:14
You ... taking a taxi to VM? That doesn't sound like the Chris I know. I thought 2.1R was your max for a trip to VM. :D


Yeah, I know. But the transport links from Tiradentes suck compared to Isabella where there´s buses to almost anywhere at any time of day or night and mostly using the expressway. Don´t get me wrong - Tiradentes has plenty of buses, just that most of them are stuck in traffic ;-)



Great report on the encounter with Brenda, by the way! You are a much braver man than I to go for DATY at VM. ;)

She´s one cool chick. But last night was exceptionally well stacked. Tonight looked like ugly city when I got there and I had to do a bit of digging. Eventually got a girl who - no other description for it - made tender lurrrve.

Regarding DATY I always judge it by the chick, not by the venue. Someone posted a photo of a 4x4 girl recently with a blister. I go in very slow and carefully check smell, taste and visual.

Someone just asked me to compare my top ten with non-GDPs which I think is a bit pointless. Most non-GDPs radiate something that GDPs don´t. Personally I don´t look for non-GDP in Rio unless it just happens (as it does sometimes). After all, why the hell come? Top terma girls might do their appearance more like Rio Sul shop assistants but they rely on a dazzle effect IMO - look at the photos in the cold light of day they are just pretty ok most of them. While I´ve had 4x4 or Aquarios girls that seem to stand out for the time I´m with them, I´ve forgotten them a week later (and they me). Which wasnt the case with Brenda, or a number of other girls I´ve met in VM or Prado.

I´m writing from Prado at this minute. Nothing like it to keep you on your toes, especially at 3am. A nice sandwich at Cervantes, checking out the Prado dive for all the crims pretending to be straight, ogling and flirting with the dangergirls-on-cars outside Barbarellas (by the way - last poster - I would not touch a Barb girl with a barge pole and I have knocked one or two back as soon as they said they used to work at Barbies - I´d rather have Kate Moss on drugs than those evacuated slot machines). Thought I´d chill in here for a minute. Theres a lovely blonde two computers away but she looks like she´s doing college work - damn!Will have a quick trawl of the area to see if there´s any mates around then hit Nog and let the music rip till after dawn. The nightlife here certainly beats Tiradentes.

Lorenzo
01-12-08, 06:21
After visiting 6 countries in the Caribbean & South America, only the Cidade Maravilhosa has earned its place on the A-list.

Loso
On this point I couldn't agree with you more. I would go even further; Rio is the pussy capital of the world.

Thanks for your great reports, all of which I enjoyed reading. I know a lot of work went into them. I'm going to nominate the latest one for Reports of Distinction, unless somebody else has already done so. I can't say that I agree with you on staying in Centro--Copa/Ipanema/Leblon have the best places to stay and to eat--but to each his own. Thanks again.

L

Lorenzo
01-12-08, 06:33
if I´m paying Sheraton prices.............


They require fresh sheets, clean smelling rooms and so on. They like a nice glass of wine at the bar first. And they like all the possible choices to be of a certain minimum quality. In which case you cannot beat 4x4.....To each his own.
Regarding your first point, if you're into hotels, the Sheraton is the best bargain, dollar for dollar, in Rio. It's a 5-star hotel at 3-1/2 star hotel prices. At the Sheraton, you'll pay less than half what you would at the Copacabana Palace or Caesar Park. And it's girl friendly. The only negative is the location.

Regarding your second point, I'm one of the clean sheets, glass of wine guys, but I have no problem with those who like the down and dirty places. I was once one of them myself. As you say, to each his own. I like the motto of the Fox News Channel: "we report, you decide." I think that would be a good motto for this board. We contributers report, let those who read our reports decide.

L

Sprite13
01-12-08, 09:11
You can also take the bus between airports in Sao Paulo (departs every 30 minutes) or to the Rua Augusta action (departs every 1h10m). The cost is R$27 http://www.airportbusservice.com.br/, as opposed to the R$6 cost of the same type bus service in Rio. http://www.rioonibus.com/guia_de_itinerarios/consultas/consulta-numero.asp?numero=2018&ts=A

Just out of curiosity, how long is the trip between Guarulhos and Congonhas taking this bus shuttle service?

Thanks.

Rio Lover #2
01-12-08, 12:06
Just out of curiosity, how long is the trip between Guarulhos and Congonhas taking this bus shuttle service?

Thanks.


Average time of the trip is around 60 mins. Obviously it depends on the amount of traffic.

Jan 156
01-13-08, 14:58
Regarding your first point, if you're into hotels, the Sheraton is the best bargain, dollar for dollar, in Rio. It's a 5-star hotel at 3-1/2 star hotel prices. At the Sheraton, you'll pay less than half what you would at the Copacabana Palace or Caesar Park. And it's girl friendly. The only negative is the location.

L

(I´ll reply on the accomm thread)

Exec Talent
01-14-08, 14:12
I was at a termas and a guy came back and said he had canceled a session. I have never been in that situation so have no idea the amount of time that is allowed or an appropriate reason. Does it vary by termas?

Could some of the termas experts comment?

Prosal
01-14-08, 16:55
Rio is the pussy capital of the world.
You guys cracking me up.

Copa's P4P scene is only a handful of termas, 5 or 6 nasty bars, one disco, and a few seedy cafes. Period.

There's of course also the brothels of VM which are the last step for animal-faced dirty black skanks who probably have had more than a few dozens thousands filthy mongers loads of putrid splooge in their gaping pie holes, the Centro termas and their disgusting waste baskets full of used condoms and cum-soaked tissues next to the beds, the av Atlantica SWs with who give you a disease just looking at them and the Passeo Publico trannies.

"Pussy capital of the world" ? .... come on.

Sao Paulo is 10 000 times better than Rio in term of women attractiveness, nightlife possibilities, P4P quality/variety and non-pro opportunities.

Some other countries are 100 times better than Brasil also, but this is another topic.

:)

Jesuscola
01-14-08, 17:58
I was at a termas and a guy came back and said he had canceled a session. I have never been in that situation so have no idea the amount of time that is allowed or an appropriate reason. Does it vary by termas?

Could some of the termas experts comment?

I don't think there's a hard and fast rule at any particular termas. It's up to the discretion of the manager as to how long you were back there, and what your reason for leaving was. You might complain that you agreed on BBBJ, and after 5 minutes of kissing, she wanted to use a condom for the BJ, and get your money back. On the other hand, you might have completed 20 minutes of your session, having done everything else, and she wouldn't allow anal, although she agreed to it in the boite. At that point, it's your word against hers--and she will lie if she's gone this far--and you will likely end up paying for the session.

But you always stand a better chance of getting something back if you walk out early.

I know a guy who stayed with a girl in Luomo. After he popped--around 20 minutes in--she told him the session was up and led him back to the boite. He didn't want to complain to management--although he felt cheated--but I did. Essentially, management wouldn't refund his money, as he had technically had sex with the girl, but they did offer him another session of equal time for free--but it had to be with the SAME girl. Needless to say, he wasn't interested. But management was at least willing to make sure he got the full time he'd paid for.

I also know a guy who stayed with a girl in 4x4. According to him, she fell asleep while he was showering in the room before the session. It was his first time in Rio, and he wasn't sure what to do. He let her sleep, figuring that if he woke her, she wouldn't be much in the mood for sex (yes, I know, but newbies can be intimidated the first time--especially not speaking Portuguese). She slept until the phone rang. He came back to the boite complaining that he hadn't had sex at all.

I translated for him with the owner, Tino. The girl, of course, lied and said she'd done everything he wanted. Tino's point was, if he had walked out as soon as the girl fell asleep, he would get a full refund. No problems. But given that he stayed the whole time, he would have to pay something. Tino was willing to wave the entrance, the house fee for the cabine, even the drinks the guy bought. But since the girl had spent 40 minutes in a room, Tino would have to pay the girl. Therefore, he requested that the client just pay that amount. R$100 reals at the time.

The client, however, was mad that the girl lied, and was willing to pay the entrance, and cabine fee, and drinks, but he didn't want the girl to be paid. In the end, Tino got frustrated and said he would wave the entire bill, even though he would still have to pay the girl out of pocket. The client insisted on paying something like R$100 or so reals, out of his sense of fairness. In the end, everyone went away fairly happy--particulary the girl who got paid for sleeping, but that's Tino's business.

Basically, all the managers/owners I've dealt with on this issue have been pretty reasonable. As long as you're pretty reasonable in what you expect from the girl, and from the management, I think they'll deal pretty well with you. But you definitely should walk out during the first 10 or 15 minutes of a session--with a reasonable complaint--if you expect a reasonable refund. Management will take a girl's track record into account in their estimations as well.

As for the afore-mentioned Luomo girl, I'd heard 2 or 3 similar complaints about her during the few weeks she had been working. I started a personal campaign--literally pointing her out to everyone I knew in the bar and advising that they not stay with her. I did it right in front of her. She asked if that was what I was doing, and I said, yes, I was, and would continue to do so until at least one person returned from a full session with her and said he'd had a good time.

She was gone within a week. What's more, I think she actually admired me for it.

Lorenzo
01-14-08, 18:15
Rio's P4P scene is only a handful of seedy thermas with their disgusting waste baskets full of sperm-soaked tissues next to the beds, 5 or 6 dull strip bars, one over-rated disco and a few cafes, all filled with hardened, greedy and often ugly tired faveladas who are there since years and who gulp down each month liters of cum.

There's of course also the nasty brothels of Centro and VM which are the last step for animal-faced dirty black skanks who probably have had more than a few thousands filthy mongers loads of putrid splooge in their gaping pie holes. Bon appetit to the guys like Christopherd who DATY them. As everyone knows, brasilian low-cost prostitutes are practically fanatical about their intimate hygiene. lol

Oh, I forgot about av Atlantica SWs with who you catch a disease just looking at them, the Passeo Publico trannies and the non-pro scene which is average at best.

Nice "pussy capital of the world" indeed.
You are a total ignoramus without the first clue as to what you are talking about. Obviously you have never experienced the high end termas in Copa/Ipanema/Leblon/Lago and in Centro. The Super Suite at L'uomo and the high end suites at 4X4 are experiences not to be missed. There are also the high end escort services who often send out stunning beauties who provide first class service. Help! is not my thing, but for those who have posted their experiences there and posted pictures, they seem to score with gorgeous girls who provide first rate service at a reasonable price.

Of course there are low end termas and brothels, just as there are in any big city, and I have no quarrel with those who frequent them. I was once young and on a tight budget too. As for SWs, I can't recall ever reading a post by anyone who went with one in Rio. Why on earth would you, when there is so much available elsewhere? Besides, every experienced monger knows that SWs are the bottom of the barrel, anywhere in the world. You monger with a SW only if you have no other choices.

So I stick by my original statement: Rio is the pussy capital of the world. For quality and variety of girls, quality and intensity of the sexual experience, and the quality of the setting in which you can enjoy the experience, Rio is without parallel. Rio's only serious rival is Bangkok.

Lorenzo

Jesuscola
01-14-08, 18:17
I don't think there's a hard and fast rule at any particular termas. It's up to the discretion of the manager as to how long you were back there, and what your reason for leaving was. You might complain that you agreed on BBBJ, and after 5 minutes of kissing, she wanted to use a condom for the BJ, and get your money back. On the other hand, you might have completed 20 minutes of your session, having done everything else, and she wouldn't allow anal, although she agreed to it in the boite. At that point, it's your word against hers--and she will lie if she's gone this far--and you will likely end up paying for the session.

But you always stand a better chance of getting something back if you walk out early.

I know a guy who stayed with a girl in Luomo. After he popped--around 20 minutes in--she told him the session was up and led him back to the boite. He didn't want to complain to management--although he felt cheated--but I did. Essentially, management wouldn't refund his money, as he had technically had sex with the girl, but they did offer him another session of equal time for free--but it had to be with the SAME girl. Needless to say, he wasn't interested. But management was at least willing to make sure he got the full time he'd paid for.

I also know a guy who stayed with a girl in 4x4. According to him, she fell asleep while he was showering in the room before the session. It was his first time in Rio, and he wasn't sure what to do. He let her sleep, figuring that if he woke her, she wouldn't be much in the mood for sex (yes, I know, but newbies can be intimidated the first time--especially not speaking Portuguese). She slept until the phone rang. He came back to the boite complaining that he hadn't had sex at all.

I translated for him with the owner, Tino. The girl, of course, lied and said she'd done everything he wanted. Tino's point was, if he had walked out as soon as the girl fell asleep, he would get a full refund. No problems. But given that he stayed the whole time, he would have to pay something. Tino was willing to wave the entrance, the house fee for the cabine, even the drinks the guy bought. But since the girl had spent 40 minutes in a room, Tino would have to pay the girl. Therefore, he requested that the client just pay that amount. R$100 reals at the time.

The client, however, was mad that the girl lied, and was willing to pay the entrance, and cabine fee, and drinks, but he didn't want the girl to be paid. In the end, Tino got frustrated and said he would wave the entire bill, even though he would still have to pay the girl out of pocket. The client insisted on paying something like R$100 or so reals, out of his sense of fairness. In the end, everyone went away fairly happy--particulary the girl who got paid for sleeping, but that's Tino's business.

Basically, all the managers/owners I've dealt with on this issue have been pretty reasonable. As long as you're pretty reasonable in what you expect from the girl, and from the management, I think they'll deal pretty well with you. But you definitely should walk out during the first 10 or 15 minutes of a session--with a reasonable complaint--if you expect a reasonable refund. Management will take a girl's track record into account in their estimations as well.

As for the afore-mentioned Luomo girl, I'd heard 2 or 3 similar complaints about her during the few weeks she had been working. I started a personal campaign--literally pointing her out to everyone I knew in the bar and advising that they not stay with her. I did it right in front of her. She asked if that was what I was doing, and I said, yes, I was, and would continue to do so until at least one person returned from a full session with her and said he'd had a good time.

She was gone within a week. What's more, I think she actually admired me for it.

I suppose it's probably not far wrong to say, virtually across the board, once the sex has begun in earnest, you're likely going to have to pay for at least the girl. I can assume there would be exceptions, but the above is not a bad rule of thumb.

Prosal
01-14-08, 18:20
You are a total ignoramus ... Rio's only serious rival is Bangkok.
I won't argue with such an experienced, enlightened and well-informed pioneer elite monger.

ROFLMAO

Professor 1
01-14-08, 18:26
Other countries are 100 times better than Brasil also, but this is another topic.

:)

Please share with the group regarding the other countries.

Jose Lima
01-14-08, 19:40
You are a total ignoramus without the first clue as to what you are talking about. Obviously you have never experienced the high end termas in Copa/Ipanema/Leblon/Lago and in Centro. The Super Suite at L'uomo and the high end suites at 4X4 are experiences not to be missed. There are also the high end escort services who often send out stunning beauties who provide first class service. Help! is not my thing, but for those who have posted their experiences there and posted pictures, they seem to score with gorgeous girls who provide first rate service at a reasonable price.

Of course there are low end termas and brothels, just as there are in any big city, and I have no quarrel with those who frequent them. I was once young and on a tight budget too. As for SWs, I can't recall ever reading a post by anyone who went with one in Rio. Why on earth would you, when there is so much available elsewhere? Besides, every experienced monger knows that SWs are the bottom of the barrel, anywhere in the world. You monger with a SW only if you have no other choices.

So I stick by my original statement: Rio is the pussy capital of the world. For quality and variety of girls, quality and intensity of the sexual experience, and the quality of the setting in which you can enjoy the experience, Rio is without parallel. Rio's only serious rival is Bangkok.

Lorenzo

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..........I have to agree with prosal on this. If you think that Rio can shake a stick to the P4P scene in SP then you are yet a puppy in the game of P4P. Still wet behind the ears.

High end like Cafe foto which is $R200 entrance and sports a gormeut chef along with a superb cigar bar and live band? Oh maybe The Coniff which sports 40 large screen plasma tvs, two live bands 4 bars with all the finest in liquor and 2 bands?? Bahamas, bomboa, mulon rouge, millinium, ele $ elas, etc etc etc.

As for upscale, Rio can not compare to SP. SP has the best restarants, shopping, and hotels in Brazil.

I am sure that if prosal wanted to he could take you to a different upscale P4P house everynight for 6 months and never repeat, not to mention hmmm 3 different massage parlors during the day and 2 regular clubs after dark.

Saying that rio is the capital of P4P in Brazil is really a rediculous statement.

Prosal
01-14-08, 20:00
Please share with the group regarding the other countries.
I was refering to the non-pro scene, which is not that great in Brasil (and particularly in Rio) but still out-of-this-world in some other countries.

If you need more infos, maybe you could browse the forum and make your homework Professor ;)

Anyway for P4P quality and variety NO other place in the world can hold a candle to Sao Paulo, there is no way to deny it.

Lorenzo
01-14-08, 20:27
As for upscale, Rio can not compare to SP.
Cariocas tell me that a paulistano's idea of fun is to exchange business cards with the driver stuck next to him in a traffic jam. It has been driven home to me so many times what an unpleasant, smog-choked place SP is that I have never had the slightest interest in visiting there. Perhaps you are right about the mongering scene, but I guess I'll never know. :(

L

Danadinho
01-15-08, 00:01
I had heard many of the same things about Sao Paolo and so chose to live in Rio for two years before moving to Sao Paolo for the next two. Rio is beautiful but its a smaller pond - Sao Paolo has many more venues at every price point. Also it is much nicer being a gringo in any Brazilian city other than Rio as far as non pros go - you aren't tarred with the turismo sexual brush as much.

Canuck9970
01-15-08, 02:23
I returned to the U.S. from Sao Paulo several days ago and already miss it. I must admit I have enjoyed reading the recent arguments regarding Rio versus SP and even Brasil versus the rest of the mongering world.

I think that is one of the most alluring aspects of Brasil. Brasil is a place where a person can find exactly what they seek.

If you are on a budget or you do not speak Portuguese then there is a place to go.

If you prefer more top end establishments then those places are plentiful as well.

If you speak Portuguese and can get around in SP then you have access to it all, including non-pros.

I admit to being biased. I own a place in SP and since that is where I spend most of my time while I am in Brasil then that is where I am most comfortable. I like Rio....but love SP. That being said, I will probably retire to the NE of Brasil where people really know how to live.

I tend to spend most of my time in Zona Sul simply because I can access everything that I want without spending half the day in the car. I was like a kid in a candy shop when I first arrived in Sao Paulo some years ago. Bahamas and Cafe Foto seemed quite reasonable with the exchange rate at the time. Now I tend to frequent the clinicas as they have good value and are quietly operating outside of the politically-motivated crackdown on the higher end clubs.

Being away from Brasil makes me realize how much I love Brasil....and Brasileiras!

Carrib
01-15-08, 03:11
I was in Thailand a few weeks ago...Brazil is still the platinum standard for P4P.

As for Sampa vs Rio, Sampa hands down on upscale P4P

Euro100
01-15-08, 05:01
Do we really need this pissing contest on what's better, Rio or Sampa? Make your choices, report on them, and be happy about it! There is no need to diss other mongers' tastes and experiences. To me it is clear that both cities have to offer a hell of a lot, and that you can find whatever you want in both of them, P4P and non-pro, both.

A few months ago I spent two really enjoyable days with Christopherd. It became very clear that he and I have totally different tastes in mongering, even though our tastes in food have a huge overlap. I like the easy and safe thing at the upscale termas, where my sport is to score a girl to spend the night with me without charge after leaving the terma. Chris likes to visit the underbelly and dig up a gem. I respect his choices and had a fantastic time exploring his hunting grounds. (well, OK, so there was the problem of not being able to find toilet paper in VM ;) - but I digress).

To me it's all about collecting different experiences. Live and let live.

Peace out, and all that good stuff :D
euro

Thanos
01-15-08, 05:07
Cariocas tell me that a paulistano's idea of fun is to exchange business cards with the driver stuck next to him in a traffic jam. It has been driven home to me so many times what an unpleasant, smog-choked place SP is that I have never had the slightest interest in visiting there. Perhaps you are right about the mongering scene, but I guess I'll never know. :(

LIts definitely a matter of taste as to which venue one might find more appealling. If your tastes run towards the white european/american look in women then SP is definitely the best place to be. If you want to sample all flavors of the brazilian spectrum of women then Rio will be more to your liking. Also spending habits come into play as well. For those who feel that no gdp is worth spending 300-1000R most of the high end places in SP will not be for you because just walking in the door of some of these places will set you back 200R, whereas for those who feel that you, "get what you pay for" go right ahead. Either way its what makes Brazil such a great playground. There's something for everybody.

Mr Enternational
01-15-08, 05:17
I also know a guy who stayed with a girl in 4x4. According to him, she fell asleep while he was showering in the room before the session. It was his first time in Rio, and he wasn't sure what to do. He let her sleep, figuring that if he woke her, she wouldn't be much in the mood for sex (yes, I know, but newbies can be intimidated the first time--especially not speaking Portuguese). She slept until the phone rang. He came back to the boite complaining that he hadn't had sex at all.

I translated for him with the owner, Tino. The girl, of course, lied and said she'd done everything he wanted.

Why didn't Tino just go back to the room and look for the used condom or empty wrapper?

Thanos
01-15-08, 05:29
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..........I have to agree with prosal on this. If you think that Rio can shake a stick to the P4P scene in SP then you are yet a puppy in the game of P4P. Still wet behind the ears.

High end like Cafe foto which is $R200 entrance and sports a gormeut chef along with a superb cigar bar and live band? Oh maybe The Coniff which sports 40 large screen plasma tvs, two live bands 4 bars with all the finest in liquor and 2 bands?? Bahamas, bomboa, mulon rouge, millinium, ele $ elas, etc etc etc.

As for upscale, Rio can not compare to SP. SP has the best restarants, shopping, and hotels in Brazil.

I am sure that if prosal wanted to he could take you to a different upscale P4P house everynight for 6 months and never repeat, not to mention hmmm 3 different massage parlors during the day and 2 regular clubs after dark.

Saying that rio is the capital of P4P in Brazil is really a rediculous statement.I think when some refer to Rio as the capital of P4P they see the more reasonable rates in Rio as part of what makes it the capital. After all for most guys part of the original attraction to Brazil was that beautiful girls could be found much cheaper in brazil than in the states or europe and alot of guys figure if you're going to pay 200-300 U. S. Dollars for a girl you can save the airfare and do that back home. So I definitely think price plays a major factor in guys determining which venue is better. But I have to agree if we're talking upscale, money no object; SP wins hands down.

Jan 156
01-15-08, 05:50
OK, if you´re here before Carnaval or are here for Carnaval but don´t have tickets, here are the remaining times and dates for you to see the real thing.

All events are at Sambodrome. It is almost walking distance from Centro - about halfway to VM. You could take a taxi there or get any bus along Vargas and get off when the traffic gets blocked (the crowds for these are about 10 to 20,000 so you want to get there a bit early if you want a seat). Or the nearest metro is probably Praca Onze. You don´t need to book - just turn up.

Each show is a practice - dress rehearsal - by one of the First League Samba Schools that are competing in Carnaval. I´ve put the name of the school in brackets in case you have a favourite (Beija Flor are the current champions). Each has a different theme for their entry.

18th Jan 9pm (Mocidade)
19th Jan 7pm (S.Clemente); 9pm (Portela)
20th Jan 7pm (Grande Rio); 9pm (Unidos da Tijuca)

25th Jan 9pm (Salgueiro); 10.30pm (Vila Isabel)
26th Jan 9pm (Imperatriz)
27th Jan 7pm (Beija-Flor)

I know this is a sex forum, guys, but in Rio you can do two to four chicas a day easily and still have time for culture. And the samba is the reason you are paying high season prices so why not check it out?

One Eyed Man
01-15-08, 06:47
Some other countries are 100 times better than Brasil also, but this is another topic.

:)

Which countries would that be?

Tercar 66
01-15-08, 11:19
I have mongered in almost 30 countries and still travelling every six months to a different countries. I have stayed in COPA RIO for a week and it was my best mongering experience so for. I was told by my friend that Salvador is better and cheaper than Rio. I have not been there so I do not know, but while in Brazil I learnt a very important lesson in life:

MONEY CANNOT BUY LOVE , BUT IT CAN BUY YOU EXCELLENT SEX!!!!


Which countries would that be?

Jesuscola
01-15-08, 11:37
Why didn't Tino just go back to the room and look for the used condom or empty wrapper?

I'm not sure why he didn't think of that, but it's not a solution I would have been comfortable with. First, the maid could have already started to clean the room to turn it over--if not finished cleaning. Second, I can recall seeing a used condom in the corner of a cabine at 4x4 on at least one occasion that the cleaning lady had missed--it wasn't mine. Third, while it's certainly not frequent, sometimes bareback DOES happen in the rooms. I hear about it. So anyway, whatever was or wasn't there could have been circumstantial and wouldn't necessarily have proven anything.

Jesuscola
01-15-08, 11:48
I know this is a sex forum, guys, but in Rio you can do two to four chicas a day easily and still have time for culture. And the samba is the reason you are paying high season prices so why not check it out?

Also likely helpful to mention that there are at least 2 free major Carnaval parties/parades--everyone is invited to show up and march down the street with the drunk Cariocas. The first starts Saturday Feb 2nd at Casa da Matriz, Rua Henrique Novaes, 107 in Botafogo. The other starts Sunday the 3rd at 9am on Rua do Mercado in Centro.

Exec Talent
01-15-08, 12:37
I think it is worthwhile for people to discuss WHY they like a certain city over others. I think that is why we are here -- to learn from other people's experiences. Just stating that you prefer one city over another is not very helpful. The WHY is important.

VM might not be for me, but it is interesting hearing about it and it may be for others. The more options, the better.

Speaking of options, I would suggest at least stopping by NS Copacabana 583, #203 which is open from 11:30 - 11:30. Some of the main termas girls got their start there and right now there are a couple of lookers working.

Bravo
01-15-08, 19:15
OK, if you´re here before Carnaval or are here for Carnaval but don´t have tickets, here are the remaining times and dates for you to see the real thing.

All events are at Sambodrome. It is almost walking distance from Centro - about halfway to VM. You could take a taxi there or get any bus along Vargas and get off when the traffic gets blocked (the crowds for these are about 10 to 20,000 so you want to get there a bit early if you want a seat). Or the nearest metro is probably Praca Onze. You don´t need to book - just turn up.

Each show is a practice - dress rehearsal - by one of the First League Samba Schools that are competing in Carnaval. I´ve put the name of the school in brackets in case you have a favourite (Beija Flor are the current champions). Each has a different theme for their entry.

18th Jan 9pm (Mocidade)
19th Jan 7pm (S.Clemente); 9pm (Portela)
20th Jan 7pm (Grande Rio); 9pm (Unidos da Tijuca)

25th Jan 9pm (Salgueiro); 10.30pm (Vila Isabel)
26th Jan 9pm (Imperatriz)
27th Jan 7pm (Beija-Flor)

I know this is a sex forum, guys, but in Rio you can do two to four chicas a day easily and still have time for culture. And the samba is the reason you are paying high season prices so why not check it out?


Great Info! Any idea how much the tickets are?

Chris H
01-16-08, 17:01
I think it is worthwhile for people to discuss WHY they like a certain city over others. I think that is why we are here -- to learn from other people's experiences. Just stating that you prefer one city over another is not very helpful. The WHY is important.

VM might not be for me, but it is interesting hearing about it and it may be for others. The more options, the better.

Speaking of options, I would suggest at least stopping by NS Copacabana 583, #203 which is open from 11:30 - 11:30. Some of the main termas girls got their start there and right now there are a couple of lookers working.

ET is that apt 203 or 204 in building 583?

Chris H

Exec Talent
01-16-08, 17:32
ET is that apt 203 or 204 in building 583?

Chris H

I really am not too fond of 204 though a friend of mine found a girl he liked there. 203 has some lookers although the facilities are not that great. However, you only have to go one time since the girls there have had no problem giving me their numbers.

Jan 156
01-16-08, 18:55
A few months ago I spent two really enjoyable days with Christopherd. It became very clear that he and I have totally different tastes in mongering, even though our tastes in food have a huge overlap. I like the easy and safe thing at the upscale termas, where my sport is to score a girl to spend the night with me without charge after leaving the terma. Chris likes to visit the underbelly and dig up a gem. I respect his choices and had a fantastic time exploring his hunting grounds. (well, OK, so there was the problem of not being able to find toilet paper in VM ;) - but I digress).


You’re exactly right, of course. I enthuse occasionally both to keep a balance but also as first timers in the dives maybe need a bit more help and encouragement, so I try.

But for many, it will also depend on the time available. One extreme – someone on their first trip to Rio and only staying for a week, they’d probably be crazy to spend time messing around in Mimosa. And crazy not to try Help and 4x4, which are landmarks like Corcovado.

The cheaper shops are very much a numbers game. I reckon I average one gem in three pops at VM. One other will be a waste of time and another might be ok but not what I want. So if you look at it like that it isn’t so cheap either. But if you are around for a few weeks you can soon make a short list of ones worth going back to or spending more time with off-premises.

On Sperto´s map, he made a useful distinction between the roughest of rough and the ´quite nice rough.´ Casarao, for instance, charges you 30R for 20mins, more than the cheapest places, but you generally get a reasonable time if you can find a pretty girl in the bar. Club 81 Quitanda goes a bit further – 50R for 20mins. At this level you usually start to get a degree of reliability – the full 20mins (but no more) and a reasonable level of skill. So for anyone on a short time leash they are quite a good cheap end bet.

Btw Sperto´s map should really be bundled with Bubba´s guide, or given a thread of it’s own. If it is editable (I can’t remember), people can update it themselves as they go thru the forum. The trouble with it just being somewhere way back in the posts of distinction, many people will not find it when in fact it is the most complete listing and guide to Centro that’s been on the forum yet afaaik.

Going back to Quitanda 81 – I had a girl there this morning who was 19yrs old, pretty, charming and so on. Energetic, gave good BBBJ, scrupulously clean. The room had air-con. I was encouraged to buy 2 cokes at an outrageous 10R each first, so the real bill was 70R, but it was quite good value. But this lovely lady’s polished performance didn’t compare with the unrehearsed passion of a 19yr old at VM last night. But to get her I had waded through a) a girl who looked gorgeous but was very unskilled at sex, b) a girl whose main interest was getting me to do a line of coke with her while we had sex, c) a girl who was technically quite good but non-empathetic, and d) a girl who was more of a gymnast than a lover. But I had an enjoyable time digging around, drinking cheap beer or guaravita, listening to music, flirting and enjoying and reciprocating wind-ups. It’s a slice of life. At Club 81 my guess is she either had an orgasm or faked it, but I didn’t mind either way. My gem at VM wouldn’t have known how to fake. Although some girls there do, for 20R most don’t bother – why would they . . .

I checked out Lazer 5 Leandro Martins again today. My gorgeous little chica Flavia is still there (she can do amazing things with her internal muscles – check her out). It is also one of the more relaxed places – like Leopoldina only bigger. Good place for having a beer and chatting to a mate. Unlike the nearby Leandro Martins 3 (horrid, lit by a couple of UV lights so you can see zilch – like the nearby Afrodite and MF1 – see Sperto´s map for addresses and location of all of these). But they are a different flavor again to BA85. There you need to practice being able to gird your loins for battle in a matter of moments; but do note that there is a *big* difference between the cabins on different floors. Floor 2 is the one to miss IMO.

I nearly went into 4x4 this afternoon but guessed I’d be there for the day if I did so held back. Don’t get me wrong – I love the place – but Euro is more the man to sing it’s praises as he knows it better. I’d like to see it as an adjunct to any good European airline Business Lounge (maybe run by the French as they are hardly allowed to run their own affairs any more haha). Last time I was there, my chica gave me lots of TLC and almost persuaded me to move in with her. (I said no as she lived in Barra which is too far away for my liking).

Come to think of it – could someone post a comprehensive report on 4x4? – I’m sure it is well overdue. It would be good to have a full run down, all the facilities, options and so. Make a good reference file. And it *is* one of the phenomenon’s that makes Rio such an amazing place!

Chris H
01-16-08, 22:59
You’re exactly right, of course. I enthuse occasionally both to keep a balance but also as first timers in the dives maybe need a bit more help and encouragement, so I try.

But for many, it will also depend on the time available. One extreme – someone on their first trip to Rio and only staying for a week, they’d probably be crazy to spend time messing around in Mimosa. And crazy not to try Help and 4x4, which are landmarks like Corcovado.

The cheaper shops are very much a numbers game. I reckon I average one gem in three pops at VM. One other will be a waste of time and another might be ok but not what I want. So if you look at it like that it isn’t so cheap either. But if you are around for a few weeks you can soon make a short list of ones worth going back to or spending more time with off-premises.

On Sperto´s map, he made a useful distinction between the roughest of rough and the ´quite nice rough.´ Casarao, for instance, charges you 30R for 20mins, more than the cheapest places, but you generally get a reasonable time if you can find a pretty girl in the bar. Club 81 Quitanda goes a bit further – 50R for 20mins. At this level you usually start to get a degree of reliability – the full 20mins (but no more) and a reasonable level of skill. So for anyone on a short time leash they are quite a good cheap end bet.

Btw Sperto´s map should really be bundled with Bubba´s guide, or given a thread of it’s own. If it is editable (I can’t remember), people can update it themselves as they go thru the forum. The trouble with it just being somewhere way back in the posts of distinction, many people will not find it when in fact it is the most complete listing and guide to Centro that’s been on the forum yet afaaik.

Going back to Quitanda 81 – I had a girl there this morning who was 19yrs old, pretty, charming and so on. Energetic, gave good BBBJ, scrupulously clean. The room had air-con. I was encouraged to buy 2 cokes at an outrageous 10R each first, so the real bill was 70R, but it was quite good value. But this lovely lady’s polished performance didn’t compare with the unrehearsed passion of a 19yr old at VM last night. But to get her I had waded through a) a girl who looked gorgeous but was very unskilled at sex, b) a girl whose main interest was getting me to do a line of coke with her while we had sex, c) a girl who was technically quite good but non-empathetic, and d) a girl who was more of a gymnast than a lover. But I had an enjoyable time digging around, drinking cheap beer or guaravita, listening to music, flirting and enjoying and reciprocating wind-ups. It’s a slice of life. At Club 81 my guess is she either had an orgasm or faked it, but I didn’t mind either way. My gem at VM wouldn’t have known how to fake. Although some girls there do, for 20R most don’t bother – why would they . . .

I checked out Lazer 5 Leandro Martins again today. My gorgeous little chica Flavia is still there (she can do amazing things with her internal muscles – check her out). It is also one of the more relaxed places – like Leopoldina only bigger. Good place for having a beer and chatting to a mate. Unlike the nearby Leandro Martins 3 (horrid, lit by a couple of UV lights so you can see zilch – like the nearby Afrodite and MF1 – see Sperto´s map for addresses and location of all of these). But they are a different flavor again to BA85. There you need to practice being able to gird your loins for battle in a matter of moments; but do note that there is a *big* difference between the cabins on different floors. Floor 2 is the one to miss IMO.

I nearly went into 4x4 this afternoon but guessed I’d be there for the day if I did so held back. Don’t get me wrong – I love the place – but Euro is more the man to sing it’s praises as he knows it better. I’d like to see it as an adjunct to any good European airline Business Lounge (maybe run by the French as they are hardly allowed to run their own affairs any more haha). Last time I was there, my chica gave me lots of TLC and almost persuaded me to move in with her. (I said no as she lived in Barra which is too far away for my liking).

Come to think of it – could someone post a comprehensive report on 4x4? – I’m sure it is well overdue. It would be good to have a full run down, all the facilities, options and so. Make a good reference file. And it *is* one of the phenomenon’s that makes Rio such an amazing place!

What is the best way to get to the spots on Spertos map from Copa? If I was to take the metro, what stop would I get off at. Back in Nov. I took the metro to 4x4, but did not know how to get to the other spots on the map.If you or anyone else could recommend the best way to get round to the places on the map, please let us know. And I am talking about coming from Copa or maybe 4x4 if that is easier to explain.

Chris H

El Austriaco
01-16-08, 23:35
What is the best way to get to the spots on Spertos map from Copa? If I was to take the metro, what stop would I get off at. Back in Nov. I took the metro to 4x4, but did not know how to get to the other spots on the map.If you or anyone else could recommend the best way to get round to the places on the map, please let us know. And I am talking about coming from Copa or maybe 4x4 if that is easier to explain.

Metro:

For 4 X 4, 502, BA 85 and almost all others, it's Uruguaiana.

Some of the other places on Sperto's map (1 through 5, 18, 20), Carioca is probably closer.

Here's Sperto's map, for easy reference:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=82884

EA

Mr Enternational
01-17-08, 05:06
I nearly went into 4x4 this afternoon but guessed I’d be there for the day if I did so held back. Don’t get me wrong – I love the place – but Euro is more the man to sing it’s praises as he knows it better. Last time I was there, my chica gave me lots of TLC and almost persuaded me to move in with her. (I said no as she lived in Barra which is too far away for my liking).

I know what you mean. I have one at 37 Travessa who wants me to move in. Has an apt on the beach and all. But that Barra is a mf.

One Eyed Man
01-17-08, 05:42
Great Info! Any idea how much the tickets are?

Last year, prices ranged from R$575 to R$2750, depending whether you're standing, have a reserved seat, are under an awning, and of course increase the closer you are to the street.

Pipe Layer99
01-17-08, 05:43
What is the best way to get to the spots on Spertos map from Copa? If I was to take the metro, what stop would I get off at. Back in Nov. I took the metro to 4x4, but did not know how to get to the other spots on the map.If you or anyone else could recommend the best way to get round to the places on the map, please let us know. And I am talking about coming from Copa or maybe 4x4 if that is easier to explain.

Chris H

Give me a call. I'll tell you and you can write it down.

I know I showed you the way to get to the centro Termas back in Nov. I guess you were just going along for the ride and note taking notes. But its pretty easy.

BrasilForever
01-17-08, 09:42
I have been seeing a Brasilera since 2005, she lives in Minas Gerias. I have been making a trip down about every three months since 2005, and our relationship is getting pretty serious. Talking about getting hitched and her moving to the U. S. With me. She does not come from a wealthy family.

To the best of my knowledge, she is not a GDP. However, having been an avid reader of this site, I am now getting a little paranoid. I know that alot of these girls from poor familes come from the interior of Brasil and go to Rio to make some cash in the summer months. I know that my girl spent time in Rio in late 2005 and early 2006, and she has girlfriends from Minas that live in Rio now.

I just returned from Minas Gerias last month, and now I am having trouble getting in touch her. I have a suspicion she is in Rio now. As it is summer time and Carnaval is around the corner. I spoke to her this Monday and she said she was in Minas, but I could not verify b/c the number was blocked.

Are there any ISG members living in Rio now that are Help regulars? If yes, I would like to PM her photo to see if my fears are legit. Or if I am just way too paranoid. I do not think it would be cool to post her photo on this site if in fact she is not a gdp.

I know this is a strange post, but I am just trying to get some peace of mind b/f I make any big mistakes. Like get hitched to a gdp.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can assist.

Jan 156
01-17-08, 14:18
What is the best way to get to the spots on Spertos map from Copa? If I was to take the metro, what stop would I get off at. Back in Nov. I took the metro to 4x4, but did not know how to get to the other spots on the map.If you or anyone else could recommend the best way to get round to the places on the map, please let us know. And I am talking about coming from Copa or maybe 4x4 if that is easier to explain.

Chris H

I think others have already answered this, but all the Centro spots really are walking distance from each other, even if it doesn´t seem like it! The first time I hit Rio my buddy and I walked in circles in Centro till our feet ached.

Rua Uruguiana (North-South)
Armed with the map, start to get a few landmarks and a sense of direction and it can help a lot. If you get off at Uruguiana or Carioca you are pretty well on the street called Rua Uruguiana. There´s street magicians and stuff in this partly pedestrianised section of the road if you´re there during the day, and then an enormous market surrounding Uruguiana called Saara. Just north of the market is a massive dual carriageway called President Vargas.

Rio Branco (North-South)
Rio Branco is the main street. It runs parallel to Rua Uruguiana. The traffic runs south (towards Copa, away from Vargas). Uruguiana is over to the west of Rio Branco, together with most of the very cheap termas. The side of the city to the east of Rio Branco is overall very slightly more upmarket. It includes 4x4.

Presidente Vargas (East-West)
If you cross Vargas (which means crossing many lanes of traffic), Rua Uruguiana continues north into another part of Centro that is quite separate. At the top of Uruguiana, at the north end, are several small clubs like Afrodite, MF1, the Leandro Martins places and so on. If you keep going you get to Praca Maua. Along the way there are also several fairly upmarket termas like Aquarios.

Buenos Aires (East-West)
Buenos Aires runs parallel to Vargas, fairly close and to the south of it. It crosses Rio Branco (BA85 to the west, 4x4 to the east). It also passes Metro Uruguiana and keep going all the way to a nice big park where you can chill out and watch the peacocks.

Rua da Carioca (East-West but not right across)
This is a small street that changes its name along its route, but basically runs parallel to Vargas and Buenos Aires only further south again. It starts at the bottom (south) end of Rua Uruguiana, where the Metro Carioca station is, and heads west. There´s several small places a few yards from the Metro, such as Rua da Carioca 59, the porno cinema, or the slightly more refined Casarao across the road (do try to go for the rooms opening onto the street - they are nice and quiet and secluded and you get the summer breeze).


So if you can imagine a street grid in your head - BA and Vargas going east-west and Uruguiana and RioBranco going north-south, you can fit places onto the squares.

Some of the places on the map require almost an act of faith. Carioca 59 usually has leafleters outside, but the Uruguiana 24 terma-stairwell is almost hidden behind a newsstand, squashed next to a Sucos bar. There may be a guy sitting on the steps and you could be forgiven for thinking it was a private stair. Just ignore him and walk past.

If you get lost, you wil probably hit Rio Branco or Vargas at some point to get your bearings again - these are the big busy streets.

Rio Branco has a slight incline so south is downhill, but it´s barely perceptible - just remember the way the traffic is flowing is south.

Another useful pointer maybe (I´ll check the map later in case I´m wrong) is that street numbers go from south to north (ie lower numbers further south) and from east to west.

Vargas - just look in each direction - there´s a big church in the middle of the road near the eastern end.

(NB I´ve used points of the compass in an approximate way and the way maps are laid out. True north is slightly different.)

Jan 156
01-17-08, 14:29
While Centro has everything from cheap to fancy termas, it´s maybe worth mentioning to anyone hitting the former for the first time that, when you walk in and have a quick look round, most of the better looking girls may well be working (this goes for VM too). You might be lucky, or you may have to wait - have a beer and chill. But many people walk in and think, ´Wow! they are so ugly here!´ - when in fact the good lookers may just be busy or taking a rest.

Of course, it may just be that there are no good lookers to be had that day or at that time. Tough luck. But persistence generally pays.

Only the more expensive termas kick girls out for being ugly lol.

Jesuscola
01-17-08, 15:13
come to think of it – could someone post a comprehensive report on 4x4? – i’m sure it is well overdue. it would be good to have a full run down, all the facilities, options and so. make a good reference file. and it *is* one of the phenomenon’s that makes rio such an amazing place!

okay:

quatro por quatro, rua buenos aires 44, centro

entry: r$40 reals (waived if you take a girl to a room before 5pm)

40 m: r$160 reals
60 m: r$180 reals

these are the same rooms, basic cabine, small bed, shower.

super suite 60 m: r$230 reals

much bigger room, gigantic bed, jacuzzi, shower, toilet. jacuzzi water is usually cold at first. best to get the water running as soon as you hit the room, have your fun, and hit the jacuzzi afterward.

king's suite 90 m: $320 reals

basically, a super suite, but for 90 minutes.

sultan's suite 90 m: $370 reals

more or less the same as the king's suite. fancier decor, filmy curtains draped around the bed, bigger jacuzzi with a waterfall of sorts. it is a bit nicer, but unnecessary.

above prices include both the room and the girl. 4x4 does not break down costs for each individually, and everything can be charged to your credit card without a fee.

if you want to do a dupla, you must do at least 1 hour in a regular cabine. charges are not separated, so double the regular rate (ie. r$180 x 2). i personally find the beds in the regular room a bit cramped for 3 people. it'll do, but you can't do anything too fancy without someone having to curl into a ball, stretch their legs up the wall, getting a shelf in their back, etc. the super suite has a great bed for duplas, lots of room for every position, etc., if you don't mind springing the extra r$100 reals...

there are a lot of different social cliques at 4x4, so the best way to select a pair for a dupla is to pick your first girl, then let her pick the second. this way you won't end up with 2 girls who hate each other and wind up with a lousy dupla.

3 bars in 4x4. the main bar (next to reception) contains the most girls--and guys. this is really where you want to spend most of your time. there is a "vip lounge" on the other side of the terma, and up one flight of stairs. it's a bit quieter, and smaller, but you won't find many girls hanging out in here. if you're looking for somewhere quiet to talk, find a girl in the main bar, and pull her to the vip. also, a whiskeria on the ground floor (this is where the firepole in the main bar leads). you wear normal clothes down there, but it's not often very crowded, and the girls really don't like to spend much time there, so, again, you'll see a greater variety of women in the main bar. also, if you've got your eye on a cutie, and she slides down the firepole, don't worry. more than likely, she's just gone to use the bathroom and will be back shortly.

free strip shows nightly, starting at 7pm. schedule is as follows:

7pm: vip
7:30 whiskeria
8pm: main bar
8:30 vip
9pm whiskeria
9:30 main bar

usually 4 girls per show, sometimes different girls per show. doing strip shows is voluntary, so don't hope that the one you've had your eye on will do one, but every girl who dances is available for a session.

also, on thursday and friday, the final strip show in the main bar is followed by a shower show. 2 or 3 girls get naked in the shower on the wall about halfway down the main bar, and perform on one another in various graphic ways...

the terma has a "relax room," on the floor just above the main bar. it includes a television, wet sauna, dry sauna (currently under maintainence), hot showers (the first showers on the right), and cold showers (directly in front of you on the other side of the room as you enter). there is another smaller sauna and showers virtually hidden on the upper floors on the other side of the house above the vip bar. most people don't know this, but i wouldn't go searching unless you're feeling adventurous. it's not much to see, just a little quieter. also, the house currently has no massagista.

house is open from 2pm until 12am. pickings at 2pm are fairly slim. new girls arrive basically every hour until 7pm. there are quite a lot of lookers, so don't be surprised if you take a girl before 5pm to get the discount, then come down afterward to find several stunners who weren't on the floor before.

the house gets busiest around 7pm, when all the brazilians are getting off work, until 10pm, after the free shows are over. the crowd turns a lot of guys off, but the brazilians really don't have sex that often. they come in for the strip show, play grab ass, and waste the girls' time. the girls privately refer to them as "pentelhos." so more guys doesn't always mean fewer girls.

my advice is to get there around 4pm, have a couple of drinks and decide if you want to go before 5, or wait to see what's on the later shift. thursdays and fridays are usually busier than monday, tuesday, and wednesday, and the beginning of the month is generally busier than the end of the month. if you're just turned off by large crowds, go around 4 on a tuesday, and you should find a good balance of girls to guys (unless it's the first tuesday of the month--always a party, and it will be very busy). also, a lot of guys find the girls around 4pm to be a bit bored looking. as the night goes on, they will get more animated. plus, they're bored because they just got to work. generally, if you approach her, smile, get her a drink, she'll warm up a lot. and most of them get great reports in the cabines.

also, there's not nearly as much making out, etc., in the bar at 4x4 as in some of the other termas. this does not mean that the girl will be a cold fish in the cabine. they're used to brazilian guys who will try to get as much as they can for free, and so they don't usually loosen up until you're in the room.

okay, that's about all i can think of. 4x4 is one of my two favorite houses in rio, and should definitely not be missed. current girl count, as of last night, is reported at 162. there's something here for everyone ;o)

Exec Talent
01-17-08, 15:50
While Centro has everything from cheap to fancy termas, it´s maybe worth mentioning to anyone hitting the former for the first time that, when you walk in and have a quick look round, most of the better looking girls may well be working (this goes for VM too). You might be lucky, or you may have to wait - have a beer and chill. But many people walk in and think, ´Wow! they are so ugly here!´ - when in fact the good lookers may just be busy or taking a rest.

Of course, it may just be that there are no good lookers to be had that day or at that time. Tough luck. But persistence generally pays.

Only the more expensive termas kick girls out for being ugly lol.

Christopherd -- I am sure I speak for many when saying your myriad contributions to furthering the understanding of the seemingly unlimited options Rio has to offer are greatly appreciated. Always look forward to your posts. Thanks.

Jan 156
01-17-08, 16:12
Last year, prices ranged from R$575 to R$2750, depending whether you're standing, have a reserved seat, are under an awning, and of course increase the closer you are to the street.

That´s for Carnaval proper no doubt. Whereas the stuff that I mentioned and Bravo presumably asked about is free, same as the stuff Jesuscola posted. These are pre-carnaval events - still huge - but mostly featuring one samba school at a time rather than the whole lot in competition together (Carnaval).

It´s also something to talk about with your chica. I spent the semi-obligatory chatting up period over colas at Club 81 yesterday arguing the merits of Beija-Flor over Grande Rio (Beija-Flor wins of course haha).

It´s a good time of year to see them as they are performing centrally, rather than say the two hour drive to Nilopolis or other places you maybe don´t want to go to. Or the over-refined conclaves of Samba City.

There´s a reasonable amount of security on duty but usual stuff - dress down (unless you´re in festive gear haha) and leave the pickpocketables at your hotel or apartment.

Bravo
01-17-08, 16:51
Brasilforever, i am headed to Rio tonight for a 12 trip. (Your PMs are turned off, I couldnt send you a privare message) Hit me up on the PM and I will give you a email address you can send the picture to.

El Austriaco
01-17-08, 16:56
I have been seeing a Brasilera since 2005, she lives in Minas Gerias. I have been making a trip down about every three months since 2005, and our relationship is getting pretty serious. Talking about getting hitched and her moving to the U. S. With me. She does not come from a wealthy family.

To the best of my knowledge, she is not a GDP. However, having been an avid reader of this site, I am now getting a little paranoid. I know that alot of these girls from poor familes come from the interior of Brasil and go to Rio to make some cash in the summer months. I know that my girl spent time in Rio in late 2005 and early 2006, and she has girlfriends from Minas that live in Rio now.
Some questions that immediatley come to mind would be:

1) How did you meet her? Where? In person, via the Internet, through friends?
2) Does she speak English? Do you speak Portuguese?
3) What does she do for a living? You've been going to MG so much, you must know.
4) When she went to Rio, what was the reason for that (I mean, the reason she told you). Did you ever visit her in Rio? Where did she live?

Maybe we can get a better idea of the situation.

EA

BTW: I was in Rio in early 2006 (February through May, i.e. during Carnaval), so if you want to PM the picture, that's fine... I'll take a look :)

Hitmanm3
01-17-08, 16:58
Going back to Quitanda 81 – I had a girl there this morning who was 19yrs old, pretty, charming and so on. Energetic, gave good BBBJ, scrupulously clean. The room had air-con. I was encouraged to buy 2 cokes at an outrageous 10R each first, so the real bill was 70R, but it was quite good value. But this lovely lady’s polished performance didn’t compare with the unrehearsed passion of a 19yr old at VM last night. But to get her I had waded through a) a girl who looked gorgeous but was very unskilled at sex, b) a girl whose main interest was getting me to do a line of coke with her while we had sex, c) a girl who was technically quite good but non-empathetic, and d) a girl who was more of a gymnast than a lover. But I had an enjoyable time digging around, drinking cheap beer or guaravita, listening to music, flirting and enjoying and reciprocating wind-ups. It’s a slice of life. At Club 81 my guess is she either had an orgasm or faked it, but I didn’t mind either way. My gem at VM wouldn’t have known how to fake. Although some girls there do, for 20R most don’t bother – why would they.

Next time iam in Rio I will send you a PM so that we may meet I haved been to Rio but yet to go to VM due to the fact that every person I go with is scared to venture out of the safe perimeters. If you are in Rio I would venture with you to VM and other places.

Thanos
01-17-08, 20:43
I have been seeing a Brasilera since 2005, she lives in Minas Gerias. I have been making a trip down about every three months since 2005, and our relationship is getting pretty serious. Talking about getting hitched and her moving to the U. S. With me. She does not come from a wealthy family.

To the best of my knowledge, she is not a GDP. However, having been an avid reader of this site, I am now getting a little paranoid. I know that alot of these girls from poor familes come from the interior of Brasil and go to Rio to make some cash in the summer months. I know that my girl spent time in Rio in late 2005 and early 2006, and she has girlfriends from Minas that live in Rio now.

I just returned from Minas Gerias last month, and now I am having trouble getting in touch her. I have a suspicion she is in Rio now. As it is summer time and Carnaval is around the corner. I spoke to her this Monday and she said she was in Minas, but I could not verify b/c the number was blocked.

Are there any ISG members living in Rio now that are Help regulars? If yes, I would like to PM her photo to see if my fears are legit. Or if I am just way too paranoid. I do not think it would be cool to post her photo on this site if in fact she is not a gdp.

I know this is a strange post, but I am just trying to get some peace of mind b/f I make any big mistakes. Like get hitched to a gdp.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can assist.This is hardly a strange post. These same thoughts run through the minds of a few hundred guys a year who wonder if their girl is a GDP. I understand you wanting peace of mind but the truth of the matter is that she can just as easily "work" in Minas. So you're not being paranoid at all. its better to check these things out before you make a major commitment.

Jan 156
01-17-08, 23:26
64 Praca Tiradentes.

That´s the opposite side of Tiradentes Sq to Rua da Carioca and Ibis hotel. The continuation of Rua da Constitucicao.

This one is so cheap they are even using generic flyers outside - same flyer that Carioca 59 has. Entrance next to the hamburger joint. Next block to Leopoldina that someone mentioned.

Behind it, btw, is a very lively bar (in Rua Goncalves Ledo). As lively as the Leopoldina bars only a bit more genuine in its appreciation of music perhaps (which in Leopoldina is used largely as a distraction perhaps from the jam tarts continuing work outside No.8).

One Eyed Man
01-18-08, 03:16
That´s for Carnaval proper no doubt. Whereas the stuff that I mentioned and Bravo presumably asked about is free, same as the stuff Jesuscola posted. These are pre-carnaval events - still huge - but mostly featuring one samba school at a time rather than the whole lot in competition together (Carnaval).

Anybody know of a website that lists the free events, for example the parade in Ipanema? After paying out the nose for the touristy stuff, I came to the conclusion that the free stuff was probably better (and with better chances of meeting normal Brazilians.)

Country Counter
01-18-08, 05:17
Anybody know of a website that lists the free events, for example the parade in Ipanema? After paying out the nose for the touristy stuff, I came to the conclusion that the free stuff was probably better (and with better chances of meeting normal Brazilians.)Ipanema.com has a bunch of carnival resources. They have a list of street parties, balls, etc. Enjoy.

Java Man
01-18-08, 06:51
Look in the Carnaval Thread. Also Google, Google...

JohnnyBraz
01-18-08, 08:33
Jesuscola,

Can't wait, going to spend my 2nd day off my 3 week trip in 4x4. Will get there early afternoon and have a hour session with a couple off girls, then maybe a dupla early evening. Talent depending ofcourse.

Jan 156
01-18-08, 21:18
19 Coneceico

This is in the market-like streets between Tiradentes and Uruguiana. As you go up the stairs, and enormous mirror reflects the main floor so you get an advance view of some of the girls. Nice large space for the chill out area, relaxed and ok ambience. The chica I wanted was a bit busy so I didn´t stay but can´t see it as being in anything other than the 1R a minute range.

Jan 156
01-18-08, 21:58
Tiradentes Square is a bit confrusing as the buses are going in so many directions. But the numbers of buses going to VM from here are:

217, 226, 240, 249, 268, 383, 391

Now if you can´t find the best place to stand, you can walk along a little bit till you are opposite the fire station, that awesome red brick building. There is a stop there just for buses going to Praca Bandeira, which is what you want. Of course, you can just look at the list of destinations posted on the front of the bus as it stops at traffic lights. Pr.Bandeira (pronounced Band-Hair-a with the accent on the second syllable - roll the r a bit) is usually listed if they are going there.

Of course, if you are over the other side of town, just grab a bus from Praca XV.

I can´t believe everyone else going to VM is so institutionalised as to use taxis over local transport . . .

Euro100
01-19-08, 03:03
Tremendous summary of 4x4, Jesuscola! Really well done. I agree with just about everything you said in this report.



Also, on Thursday and Friday, the final strip show in the main bar is followed by a shower show. 2 or 3 girls get naked in the shower on the wall about halfway down the main bar, and perform on one another in various graphic ways...

Yes, this is an absolute must-see. When the girls get into it in the shower, you can cut the horniness in the boite with a knife :D



Also, there's not nearly as much making out, etc., in the bar at 4x4 as in some of the other termas.
I respectfully disagree with this one. Yes, early in the evening, there is not much going on in the main bar. But as the evening progresses and the girls have a little more booze in them, many of them go all out. In this situation it actually helps if you are obviously a foreigner. This way they know there is a good chance you will take them to the cabina, and they really work you hard to get you to go there. Plus, the music is playing hard, and buying a couple of rounds of Vodka+Red Bull helps as well. I have had some of my all-time best make-out sessions in the main bar at 4x4.

Trelele
01-19-08, 04:14
Current girl count, as of last night, is reported at 162. There's something here for everyone ;o)162 girls at 4x4 ? OMG. It´s Heaven on Earth!

Mr Enternational
01-19-08, 04:25
I have been seeing a Brasilera since 2005, she lives in Minas Gerias. I have been making a trip down about every three months since 2005, and our relationship is getting pretty serious. Talking about getting hitched and her moving to the U. S. With me. She does not come from a wealthy family.
To the best of my knowledge, she is not a GDP. However, having been an avid reader of this site, I am now getting a little paranoid. I know that alot of these girls from poor familes come from the interior of Brasil and go to Rio to make some cash in the summer months. I know that my girl spent time in Rio in late 2005 and early 2006, and she has girlfriends from Minas that live in Rio now.
I just returned from Minas Gerias last month, and now I am having trouble getting in touch her. I have a suspicion she is in Rio now. As it is summer time and Carnaval is around the corner. I spoke to her this Monday and she said she was in Minas, but I could not verify b/c the number was blocked.
Are there any ISG members living in Rio now that are Help regulars? If yes, I would like to PM her photo to see if my fears are legit. Or if I am just way too paranoid. I do not think it would be cool to post her photo on this site if in fact she is not a gdp.
I know this is a strange post, but I am just trying to get some peace of mind b/f I make any big mistakes. Like get hitched to a gdp.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can assist.

There is only one two part question that you need to ask yourself: Do you give her money when you go see her in MG?/ Does she accept money from you? If so, then I would give it 95% that she is a GDP. We have said too many times that non-gdps RARELY (to cover the 5% of gold diggers etc that will) want money from you, no matter what their family's economic situation may be.

I have a hard time getting my girlfriend to let me buy her a Hard Rock Cafe t-shirt when we visit different cities. She would never consider accepting money from me. It seems that if you have to come to a board of mongers in hopes of getting peace of mind then you really don`t know this woman at all, or at least enough to be talking about marrying her.

Model Chaser
01-19-08, 09:14
Thursdays and Fridays are usually busier than Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, and the beginning of the month is generally busier than the end of the month. If you're just turned off by large crowds, go around 4 on a Tuesday, and you should find a good balance of girls to guys (unless it's the first Tuesday of the month--always a party, and it will be very busy).What is it about early in the month that makes a terma more crowded than later in the month? Just curious, as in N. America it's usually later in the month when rent is due where clubs and escort services are better-staffed.

Thanos
01-19-08, 09:23
Tiradentes Square is a bit confrusing as the buses are going in so many directions. But the numbers of buses going to VM from here are:

217, 226, 240, 249, 268, 383, 391

Now if you can´t find the best place to stand, you can walk along a little bit till you are opposite the fire station, that awesome red brick building. There is a stop there just for buses going to Praca Bandeira, which is what you want. Of course, you can just look at the list of destinations posted on the front of the bus as it stops at traffic lights. Pr.Bandeira (pronounced Band-Hair-a with the accent on the second syllable - roll the r a bit) is usually listed if they are going there.

Of course, if you are over the other side of town, just grab a bus from Praca XV.

I can´t believe everyone else going to VM is so institutionalised as to use taxis over local transport . . .I think its more uneasiness that some guys don't want to take that 2-3 block walk through the hood to get to the VM.

Jan 156
01-19-08, 19:01
Rua Luiz de Camoes 60

This is another one in the Praca Tiradentes area of Centro. Another ´bottom of the barrel´ and when I went up they had seemingly dispensed with electricity, so the girls were in almost total darkness. Only two or three and nothing that took my fancy.

But things are slim in Centro on Saturday. Uru 24 shuts about 3pm, BA85 only had the 2nd floor open (the one with the torn plastic sheet cubicles). The nicest one I looked in was Leopoldina - although only because it had reasonably fresh air, tables and chairs, and the option to drink a beer in something less than the sweltering heat outside. About three girls there, only one faintly doable.

Apparently many girls think they should have a day off on Saturday like evryone else <g>. Most of the places I looked in were at the lower end of low end. Better to a) get in early or b) spend proper money or c) go to VM.

I know some folk who will find the large number of stairs to climb in Centro (for relatively few girls) a little off-putting. If so, Casarao (slightly more expensive at 30R for 20mins - not open weekends) is a decent bet. One flight of stairs only, then at busy times there will maybe 30 girls on. Or you could always cross the road to the cinema - no stairs necessary and you can get sucked off in your seat.

Cho 637
01-19-08, 19:19
Rua Luiz de Camoes 60

This is another one in the Praca Tiradentes area of Centro. Another ´bottom of the barrel´ and when I went up they had seemingly dispensed with electricity, so the girls were in almost total darkness. Only two or three and nothing that took my fancy.

But things are slim in Centro on Saturday. Uru 24 shuts about 3pm, BA85 only had the 2nd floor open (the one with the torn plastic sheet cubicles). The nicest one I looked in was Leopoldina - although only because it had reasonably fresh air, tables and chairs, and the option to drink a beer in something less than the sweltering heat outside. About three girls there, only one faintly doable.

Apparently many girls think they should have a day off on Saturday like evryone else <g>. Most of the places I looked in were at the lower end of low end. Better to a) get in early or b) spend proper money or c) go to VM.

I know some folk who will find the large number of stairs to climb in Centro (for relatively few girls) a little off-putting. If so, Casarao (slightly more expensive at 30R for 20mins - not open weekends) is a decent bet. One flight of stairs only, then at busy times there will maybe 30 girls on. Or you could always cross the road to the cinema - no stairs necessary and you can get sucked off in your seat.

I have got to try the cinema! :)

Chris H
01-20-08, 02:35
Or you could always cross the road to the cinema - no stairs necessary and you can get sucked off in your seat.

Are you saying that there are cinemas in centro that you can get a BJ while watching a movie????


Chris H

Jan 156
01-20-08, 05:55
Are you saying that there are cinemas in centro that you can get a BJ while watching a movie????

Chris H

Well I meant it like I said it rather than the way you said it lol.

The ´cinema´ in Rua Carioca is not exactly listed with the ones showing Atonement and Bee Story.

It rarely closes. It shows continuous low grade hard porn. Every so often, the movie is interrupted for a striptease on stage by a lady past her best. During the films (which are otherwise less than interesting), ladies patrol the aisles. If you show an interest (or sometimes if you don´t) they will offer to take you upstairs. But maybe some people can´t climb stairs. I have seen a number of times in the middle of rows someone getting sucked off. This is a bit distracting if you are trying to watch the film <g> unless, I suppose, you happen to be the suckee. What is even more distracting, is that some of these ladies (not all) have penises. So if you want to know the lower anatomical disposition of your sucker you need to be wary. Letting your eyes get accustomed to the darkness is hard enough - standing at the back so you get glimpses of the workers as new customers part the entrance curtians helps. And of course, if you see them coming out of a cubicle in the gents you may see more than you bargained for, and the bright lights and lack of ambient noise mean not much is covered up there.

This is not some super suckee bar from the Far East - it is an extremely dodgy dive. But if you find Carioca 59 (a couple of doors along) a bit full on, you can sit and watch porn for a few minutes and a few reals till you have a nice stiffy. After that you may opt for the certainty of the (usually) low grade girls next door - or the mental challenge of working out if your lady of the darkness packs a penis or not. Casarao, for the extra ten real, is a better option, but it´s kinda fun to look at the options sometimes ;-)

Although run down, like many in that street it is actually quite an interesting historical building.

Jan 156
01-20-08, 05:58
I think its more uneasiness that some guys don't want to take that 2-3 block walk through the hood to get to the VM.

Personally I recommend it unless you are a newbie to Rio. It helps you to distinguish between what is threatening and what is just badly lit and full of potholes.

Jan 156
01-20-08, 06:04
Is it Baraios? That heavy metal bar with the skull and bike-parts outside? *
Anyway it has had really excellent bands the past two nights. It reminded me I wanted to look up a friend I´ve hung out with on and off for a few years (in a non-sexual way) and I don´t have her new phone number since my phone crashed with all the new numbers.

Someone on the board met her a while back - her (working) name is Geovana and she lives in Niteroi. If anyone would be willing to forward me her number (or send her mine) I´d aoppreciate it.

Thanks



*The one you pass on the way to VM

Thanos
01-20-08, 06:47
Personally I recommend it unless you are a newbie to Rio. It helps you to distinguish between what is threatening and what is just badly lit and full of potholes.That's because you've been there a million times. To alot of guys, badly lit and full of potholes IS threatening. I had business at the fed. Police building and I took two friends that had never been to that area with me. They had on shorts so they had to wait outside. I went in for about ten minutes and when I returned they were nowhere in sight. I called their cell and they were in a taxi on their way back to Copa. They had gotten nervous just standing outside the fed police building so they left. For alot of people the realer side of Rio is a bit much.

Chris H
01-20-08, 08:55
Well I meant it like I said it rather than the way you said it lol.

The ´cinema´ in Rua Carioca is not exactly listed with the ones showing Atonement and Bee Story.

It rarely closes. It shows continuous low grade hard porn. Every so often, the movie is interrupted for a striptease on stage by a lady past her best. During the films (which are otherwise less than interesting), ladies patrol the aisles. If you show an interest (or sometimes if you don´t) they will offer to take you upstairs. But maybe some people can´t climb stairs. I have seen a number of times in the middle of rows someone getting sucked off. This is a bit distracting if you are trying to watch the film <g> unless, I suppose, you happen to be the suckee. What is even more distracting, is that some of these ladies (not all) have penises. So if you want to know the lower anatomical disposition of your sucker you need to be wary. Letting your eyes get accustomed to the darkness is hard enough - standing at the back so you get glimpses of the workers as new customers part the entrance curtians helps. And of course, if you see them coming out of a cubicle in the gents you may see more than you bargained for, and the bright lights and lack of ambient noise mean not much is covered up there.

This is not some super suckee bar from the Far East - it is an extremely dodgy dive. But if you find Carioca 59 (a couple of doors along) a bit full on, you can sit and watch porn for a few minutes and a few reals till you have a nice stiffy. After that you may opt for the certainty of the (usually) low grade girls next door - or the mental challenge of working out if your lady of the darkness packs a penis or not. Casarao, for the extra ten real, is a better option, but it´s kinda fun to look at the options sometimes ;-)

Although run down, like many in that street it is actually quite an interesting historical building.


LOL....You are crazy!!!!! Thanks for the info regarding what kind of person that may be giving the BJ in the cienma. I thought maybe it was like the BJ bars that I visited in BKK a few years ago, but obviously it is not even close to that.

Chris H

Cho 637
01-20-08, 10:43
Well I meant it like I said it rather than the way you said it lol.

The ´cinema´ in Rua Carioca is not exactly listed with the ones showing Atonement and Bee Story.

It rarely closes. It shows continuous low grade hard porn. Every so often, the movie is interrupted for a striptease on stage by a lady past her best. During the films (which are otherwise less than interesting), ladies patrol the aisles. If you show an interest (or sometimes if you don´t) they will offer to take you upstairs. But maybe some people can´t climb stairs. I have seen a number of times in the middle of rows someone getting sucked off. This is a bit distracting if you are trying to watch the film <g> unless, I suppose, you happen to be the suckee. What is even more distracting, is that some of these ladies (not all) have penises. So if you want to know the lower anatomical disposition of your sucker you need to be wary. Letting your eyes get accustomed to the darkness is hard enough - standing at the back so you get glimpses of the workers as new customers part the entrance curtians helps. And of course, if you see them coming out of a cubicle in the gents you may see more than you bargained for, and the bright lights and lack of ambient noise mean not much is covered up there.

This is not some super suckee bar from the Far East - it is an extremely dodgy dive. But if you find Carioca 59 (a couple of doors along) a bit full on, you can sit and watch porn for a few minutes and a few reals till you have a nice stiffy. After that you may opt for the certainty of the (usually) low grade girls next door - or the mental challenge of working out if your lady of the darkness packs a penis or not. Casarao, for the extra ten real, is a better option, but it´s kinda fun to look at the options sometimes ;-)

Although run down, like many in that street it is actually quite an interesting historical building.

Thanks for the info. I think I'll skip the cinema.

Perkele
01-20-08, 12:55
Is it Baraios? That heavy metal bar with the skull and bike-parts outside? *


Its Balaios, the oldest motorcycle club in Brasil.

The bar is called Heavy Duty.

Owner says that they have worst service in the world.

Jesuscola
01-20-08, 15:10
What is it about early in the month that makes a terma more crowded than later in the month? Just curious, as in N. America it's usually later in the month when rent is due where clubs and escort services are better-staffed.

It has been explained to me that Brazilians get paid at the beginning of the month, therefore they have more money at that time...

Jesuscola
01-20-08, 15:15
Tremendous summary of 4x4, Jesuscola! Really well done. I agree with just about everything you said in this report.

Thank you.



I respectfully disagree with this one. Yes, early in the evening, there is not much going on in the main bar. But as the evening progresses and the girls have a little more booze in them, many of them go all out. In this situation it actually helps if you are obviously a foreigner. This way they know there is a good chance you will take them to the cabina, and they really work you hard to get you to go there. Plus, the music is playing hard, and buying a couple of rounds of Vodka+Red Bull helps as well. I have had some of my all-time best make-out sessions in the main bar at 4x4.

Yeah, for sure. I just included that bit because I've seen lots of guys come in early evening and they complain that the girls seem bored, don't seem to want to kiss, etc. But that's just the way it is at that time, and doesn't have any bearing on their performance.

In a terma like Luomo, it's pretty standard for a girl to make out a lot, reach under the robe, etc., in an effort to close the deal. Therefore a guy kind of comes to expect that. In 4x4, particulary early, that's not so common, so newer guys can tend to assume that the girls are less friendly/more professional. But it's really not the case. So it was just a sort of disclaimer to give the girl a shot, stick around longer, you may be surprised, kind of thing.

Thanks--to everyone--for the good words.

Jesuscola
01-20-08, 15:17
Jesuscola,

Can't wait, going to spend my 2nd day off my 3 week trip in 4x4. Will get there early afternoon and have a hour session with a couple off girls, then maybe a dupla early evening. Talent depending ofcourse.

Yeah, I think 4x4 is probably the best place for duplas, due to price, room options, etc. It's a great place.

Glad you liked the report.

Fksinrio
01-20-08, 18:46
Long time monger, first time poster.

Why do I like Rio? Young girls, low prices, enthusiasm!!

My favoriye: VM. Wonderful young mulattas, everyone is in a party mood. Have you ever been to a German RLD? Guys look at the floor, ladies uninterested, in VM everyone parties, lots of eye contact, girls show their titties and what titties. I cant get enough of their brown titties. Have a beer, chat with the ladies, go for a round, have another beer, repeat. I always get good service, treat the ladies nice, they will treat you nice. Sheets dirty, so I let the lade lay down , me on top, gentleman that I am. Stand up BJ, or if I am really enthusiastic, I do not care and lay down. Then doggie, doggie, doggie.

Other favorites: Ave Copacabana 543, apt 203 and 204. 203 gives you shower, a tiny bit more upscale, 1 hour 80 - 90 reals. Young (but 18 and up only!), tight, new in the game, anxious to please, and please thet do. Had a 19 yr ols fake blond, nice firm titties, tight. 204 a bit cheaper, no shower, did a nice 22 yr (?) mulatta spinner, she knew what to do. Befiore the action you sit in a room with 10 girls, many guys, no tourists except for me, drink beer, do test drives. Dirty and fun.

BUT: I have never got a BBBJ at either place, not in VM , not in Copa. Good that the girls takecare of themselves, but I miss it. High end termas always give BBBJs.

Exec Talent
01-21-08, 16:59
One question I still get asked a lot is about Monte Carlo.

http://www.termasmontecarlo.com.br/

Guys who have never been nor have not been there in awhile should try it. The new manager has made a lot of changes including bringing in a lot of hot girls who used to work elsewhere. The receiptionists all speak English and are very helpful.

With the exchange rate being so low, it is easy to spend R$500 before you know it. MC has a frequent visitors program. You do not have to give them your real name, but you do have to let them record your fingerprint so the next visit they will ask you for your finger. Spend 500 Reais and your next entrance is free.

They also have a Tuesday promotion.
http://www.termasmontecarlo.com.br/promocao/terca.php

All you have to do is put in an e-mail address and click OK. Then go to that e-mail and print out the e-mail and take it with you for a free Cabine on Tuesday. I usually just go to any internet cafe to print.

Cenoteguy
01-21-08, 17:10
We are now The Global Brotherhood.

Let me know how you all feel about this?

It is all about having more fun!

Cenoteguy

Exec Talent
01-21-08, 17:54
Other favorites: Ave Copacabana 543, apt 203 and 204. 203 gives you shower, a tiny bit more upscale, 1 hour 80 - 90 reals. Young (but 18 and up only!), tight, new in the game, anxious to please, and please thet do. Had a 19 yr ols fake blond, nice firm titties, tight. 204 a bit cheaper, no shower, did a nice 22 yr (?) mulatta spinner, she knew what to do. Befiore the action you sit in a room with 10 girls, many guys, no tourists except for me, drink beer, do test drives. Dirty and fun.

BUT: I have never got a BBBJ at either place, not in VM , not in Copa. Good that the girls takecare of themselves, but I miss it. High end termas always give BBBJs.

I think you mean NS Copacabana 583 not 543.
You can pay with MC and Visa at #204 where the prices are:
R$75 for 30 minutes, R$125 for 1 hour. Add R$5 for CC

Prices at #203 which no longer accepts CCs:
R$95 -- 20 minutes
R$115 -- 30 minutes
R$135 -- 40 minutes
R$175 -- 1 hour

My recent experience at #203, unlike the quoted poster, was the same as in a high-end termas. Very cute morena. There also was a couple of good looking blondes in the waiting area while I was there.

Thanos
01-21-08, 18:43
We are now The Global Brotherhood.

Let me know how you all feel about this?

It is all about having more fun!

CenoteguyNoble thought but it ain't happening. Because in the end when you break it down its a free market and its every man for himself and the best way to be in Rio is as a free agent. Its like going to an auction and bidding on a painting. Of course its not worth a million dollars and you and I might both agree that its stupid for someone to bid that kind of money but that's not going to stop someone from bidding a million bucks or more if they want it bad enough. The same way you can't make the other bidders keep their bids low to force a cheap sale you can't make guys offer only 200R in Help. Sure you can suggest it and its a great suggestion but the Copa/Help scene is too vast for price fixing. Most guys come to Rio for a short visit with a certain amount of cash to spend and most times they spend to the limit. Plus the playing field is too uneven for everyone to pay the same. If every guy stuck to his guns and only offered 200R; who would get the girl: the 30 yr old guy or the 60 yr old guy? In Copa its about having options. For the guys who only go to Pataca and Help the options are limited and they have to pay or go solo. For the guys who branch out a little further to the termas and escort services they can find cheaper prices and for the guys who venture out to the VM and places like 85 there are even cheaper prices to be found.

Like I said its great for you to sound out on the issue but just like with the guy who screamed; 175R tops! And before him the guy who called for 150R! And even before him the guy who said that 100R was the most anyone should pay when all is said and done if you can keep down to your own max you're doing pretty good.

Fksinrio
01-21-08, 20:33
Et:

Many thanks for the corrections!

I am very grateful for those who have posted about cheap places in Centro. It is an adventure! Sometimes I want a high class experience and the high end places take care of this. It is sooooo civilized to sit there, a beer in one hand, pretty garots in the other, massaging my Johnson. And it is safe, safe, safe. I am always treated nicely there, no suprise with pricing, no negotiating, just fun. But now, with the Real so strong, it is getting expensive, at least if you remember the old days. And also, sometimes I want dirty sex, something a bit wilder.

So, I walk the streets in Centro, with my another forum lists, climb stairs, see many non-doable girls. And also many eminently doable. Music is loud, very loud. Lots of sweaty guys. Business is brisk. The girls like to shower after the session, but only one shower, so to dry off, they come out among the mongers with just a towel while the next garota uses the shower. So I sit there, and one of them, freshly showered, comes out, sits down to next to me, topless. She has some metal in her lip, so after the usual whats your name, where do you live. I have to ask her if she has pierced her other lips also. No way she says, removes her towel, and shows me they are indeed untouched (by metal, that is). All the time mongers walk by, watch with me, agree they are not peirced. You do not do that in a high class Terma! So her friend comes around, equally charming, we start to discuss a session. But then they say, why don't you take her and over comes a 19 yr. Old, who has been standing over in a corner. They explain she is new, needs business, would I be interested? This one is quite a looker, and for the good cause of her financial situation, I agree. We walk upstairs and I immediately get a place in her heart: Instead of the usual $21 (20 minutes plus condom), I want the luxurary course, $31. She is so happy. In we go in the cabine and it is primitive. A bed, but the walls do not go all the way to the ceiling. The loud music helps. People outside will have to listen very carefully if they want to hear us. So we boing away. The bed starts moving when we do doggie and bangs into the walls. People outside can hear our rythm. The banging gets louder and louder, I enjoy (and she seems to also).

Not everyone of course thinks this is a turn on, but for me it is. Great service, great environment, super garota. So far, never a problem, but I watch my back walking the streets.

I have done many high-end termas, done MP, Balcony, never Help. Too late for me. By midnight I would like to be in bed, if you see what I mean.

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Jan 156
01-22-08, 02:42
We are now The Global Brotherhood.

Let me know how you all feel about this?

It is all about having more fun!

Cenoteguy

Sorry, I think this is wishful thinking. For every monger on ISG there are dozens and dozens - probably hundreds or thousands - that are not. Neither do I feel any sense of ´brotherhood´with people I do not know simply cos they screw women and pay them.

Set an example - that´s all you can do. And maybe post reports instead of philosophy in these threads? Your request that everyone read your Fortaleza post is a bit OTT. People should read that thread for reports on miongering in Fz. No reason to read it if they are not thinking of going there. And to ask them to read it when you are not even posting a report . . .

Sorry, I´m not having a go at you. Just that this Forum serves a very useful purpose as it is. You cannot IMHO use it as a platform for yuor own cause, however justified.

Jan 156
01-22-08, 02:51
I have seen a particular VM girl repeatedly over a couple of years or so and she has never been less than awesome. Recently I posted a detailed report about her. Nothing to identify her to a third party (except her name, which is not that unusual) but a great amount of intimate detail. A few days later and she was avoiding me. This went on for a week. Tonight (a quiet night) she gave me service but was extremely distant and unresponsive, the first time ever. If she reads this (or gets someone to read it for her) I hope she knows I am sorry. Even if it just coincidence (as it probably may be), I guess I was more personal than needs be, even if it was all complimentary.

The only thing that made the night rather good was a much better than expected experience at 4x4. (I tend to be a fan of VM more than 4x4).

It struck me how much difference a good shag makes of one´s opinion of a place (I came out singing along the street . . .)

Jan 156
01-22-08, 03:04
That's because you've been there a million times. To alot of guys, badly lit and full of potholes IS threatening. I had business at the fed. Police building and I took two friends that had never been to that area with me. They had on shorts so they had to wait outside. I went in for about ten minutes and when I returned they were nowhere in sight. I called their cell and they were in a taxi on their way back to Copa. They had gotten nervous just standing outside the fed police building so they left. For alot of people the realer side of Rio is a bit much.

Well not millions, but it might be getting on for a few hundred I suppose.

But I do like to push the boundaries precisely to find (safely) the limits of safety.

Always playing safe (by Western caution rules) will not necessarily protect you from getting robbed in Copacabana for instance, and living in a cocoon can (to the adventurous - and I assume you have some spirit of adventure to come here!) be a little stifling eventually.

There is a difference between what is frightening (in your friends´case, dimly lit streets and potholes) and what is dangerous. Prudence suggests it is better to be afraid (or at least try to guard against) what is dangerous rather than what is frightening, as they may not be the same.

You can get robbed in broad daylight in Copa on a busy street. It looks safe.

In the West we associate the ´potholes´scenario with violent areas or whatever and don´t always have to put much thought intio who and what repfresents a real risk. When you first come to RJ, anyone who looks (to us) poor, unrefined and so on maybe seems dangerous. Working out who and what is a danger tends to be different IMO in each country.

The quickest way to learn is to get mugged. I am suggesting learning to read people - I think people may find that nmore attractive. You can do this by immersing yourself a bit at a time in the culture. You learn then to read the body language. Then you learn to avoid danger - when you see a real potential threat, you cross the street, go in a shop, turn and run - whatever you have to do.

Wall Street probably does not requuire too much thought (neither does Rio Branco). But the first time I went into Brooklyn it felt dangerous. I know it is maybe not 100% safe, but it´s a hell of a lot safer than the Bronx, and there´s a lot of great stuff to experience in Brooklyn.

Same with Rio. The place you mentioned (or the walk from the main road past the bike club to VM) is not a favela. It´s just a poor district.

Jan 156
01-22-08, 03:47
I asked at Reception in 4x4 today and they said they´re shut for Carnaval.

And for my good friend Euro, who constantly reminds me about it <g>, the casa in VM with the nice clean hygeinic toilet is Casa 62.

Thanos
01-22-08, 03:53
Well not millions, but it might be getting on for a few hundred I suppose.

But I do like to push the boundaries precisely to find (safely) the limits of safety.

Always playing safe (by Western caution rules) will not necessarily protect you from getting robbed in Copacabana for instance, and living in a cocoon can (to the adventurous - and I assume you have some spirit of adventure to come here!) be a little stifling eventually.

There is a difference between what is frightening (in your friends´case, dimly lit streets and potholes) and what is dangerous. Prudence suggests it is better to be afraid (or at least try to guard against) what is dangerous rather than what is frightening, as they may not be the same.

You can get robbed in broad daylight in Copa on a busy street. It looks safe.

In the West we associate the ´potholes´scenario with violent areas or whatever and don´t always have to put much thought intio who and what repfresents a real risk. When you first come to RJ, anyone who looks (to us) poor, unrefined and so on maybe seems dangerous. Working out who and what is a danger tends to be different IMO in each country.

The quickest way to learn is to get mugged. I am suggesting learning to read people - I think people may find that nmore attractive. You can do this by immersing yourself a bit at a time in the culture. You learn then to read the body language. Then you learn to avoid danger - when you see a real potential threat, you cross the street, go in a shop, turn and run - whatever you have to do.

Wall Street probably does not requuire too much thought (neither does Rio Branco). But the first time I went into Brooklyn it felt dangerous. I know it is maybe not 100% safe, but it´s a hell of a lot safer than the Bronx, and there´s a lot of great stuff to experience in Brooklyn.

Same with Rio. The place you mentioned (or the walk from the main road past the bike club to VM) is not a favela. It´s just a poor district.I know its just a poor district and you know that but take a couple of guys from a wealthy area of california and asking them to walk through there is like asking them to walk through a war zone. Some people don't walk through the impoversed areas in their home cities because of some type of fear so its difficult for them to put that fear behind them in a foreign country. You know how it is. Some guys you say; "we're going to the City of God" and they say let's go! Other guys don't want to be within twenty miles of the place in a tank. But its great that you get out and explore. I tell friends all the time its enlightening to see all of the sides of Brazil.

Mr Enternational
01-22-08, 05:13
The only thing that made the night rather good was a much better than expected experience at 4x4. (I tend to be a fan of VM more than 4x4).
It struck me how much difference a good shag makes of one´s opinion of a place (I came out singing along the street . . .)
Shit, I'm usually singing by the time I come out into the hallway.

El Greco
01-22-08, 08:06
I asked at Reception in 4x4 today and they said they´re shut for Carnaval.



All termas are closed from Friday to Tuesday inclusive.

I remember the only one that was open on Friday was Monte Carlo in Copa.

On Wednesday not all the girls will show up. It will be worst than a Monday.


El Greco

Jesuscola
01-22-08, 08:32
All termas are closed from Friday to Tuesday inclusive.

I remember the only one that was open on Friday was Monte Carlo in Copa.

On Wednesday not all the girls will show up. It will be worst than a Monday.


El Greco

Luomo will be open every day of Carnaval. It will be the only terma open.

Exec Talent
01-22-08, 18:22
Luomo will be open every day of Carnaval. It will be the only terma open.

Actually, Monte Carlo is open all days of Carnaval. Solarium also is open.

Exec Talent
01-22-08, 18:28
I just talked with the manager from Monte Carlo to check if they were open for Carnaval and she said they were. She also told me that unlike L'uomo, which charges R$20 for each session if you pay the session fee with a credit card, all charges can be paid at MC with a credit card with no extra charges.

Also, if you are depending on L'uomo for dinner, you might want to be aware that at least one night a week, there is no free buffet. The girls are not too happy about it either. Last night they got served sandwiches.

L'uomo has been having trouble keeping receptionists and now is down to one per night. Really a pain when it comes to checkout time.

Jesuscola
01-22-08, 18:31
Actually, Monte Carlo is open all days of Carnaval. Solarium also is open.

Interesting... Thanks for the info.

Mexidan
01-22-08, 19:54
Hi everyone,

As I wind down my trip here, and realize that I am already behind on one trip report, I will try to write this one before I leave country. I will update on my experiences in Rio now as compared to July 2007.

==============================================

Real. Wow, real has taken a hit here since last time I came. As of 1/5/08, the real was down to $R1.73/$1 USD compared to $R1.98/$1 USD that I got in July. I really think its possible to see $R1.5 or less sometime later this year the way things are going.

Airport Shuttle. While waiting for Real Bus to take me to Copacabana ($R6), a van driver pulled up and offered ten of us tourists rides for $R10 per rider. Rather than wait for 30 more minutes for the bus, we all jumped at the chance to go earlier. Arrived without incident at my destination.

Termas. I just cannot say anything else about how great L'uomo is. At this time, they have the best girls, the most outgoing girls, and the most energetic girls. I again tried Monte Carlo, Solarium, etc., and just got sick of the girls sitting around looking bored. After an hour or more, I'd tell myself' "Who am I fooling here?" and would go back to L'uomo for one of several amazing experiences. All my experiences here were awesome. Ingrid and Giselle were my personal favorites this time around. The free buffet here has been even better lately as they celebrate Revellion.

It took me a couple of visits, but 4x4 later was added to my list of Favorite Termas. I dont like how packed it gets, but I would get there at 4 and get settled in. Session before 5 and your entrance fee is waived. There are some beauty queens in there too. English is less prevalent here, and the spectrum of women really does span from 4s-9s though there is also a hundred women working. It was in my last days that I became really happy with this place. One thing: the hustle from the waitstaff is greater here for tip. Tell them you will tip them at the end of the night, otherwise they will ask for a tip everytime you order a round. The tips are added to your tab, and I just didn't like being solicited for a tip.

I can't bring myself to spend the $R400 on Centarius requires just walking in the door. How much better can the women here be, especially for the price?

My next trip: Start at 4x4, wait a couple of days, then onto Luomo, and end with 4x4 again. That will keep these places fresh for me.

Travel Around Town. I never paid for a taxi by choice. If I was going somewhere with someone, I paid because I was taking someone out somewhere. Otherwise, I rode the Metro ($R2.30) or just walked. I walked at all hours of the nite, alone, and had no problems. I don't necessairly recommend this for everyone, but for me and others who have this comfort level in Rio, there is no problems.

Accomodations. I stayed with Amerioca Tours http://www.amerioca.net/ this whole trip. Paid $80 USD/nt for an apt next door to Meia Pataca on Avenida Atlantica, a block away from Help. Don and Ken are two very awesome guys who will do whatever it takes to make your trip a success. Ken always volunteers to tag along to the Termas and Don, well Don looks out for everything else! More on this later.

On my last nite, I needed a place (due to flight cancellation). The place I found fast and reasonably priced was a hostel on Avenida Atlantica (the name escapes me). It cost me $R55 and included a free buffet breakfast.

ATM. Citibank should advertise itself as the Monger's Bank, as their banks are in every major monger destination! Save on all fees, just open a checking account here and use the ATMs fee free. They give an excellent rate of exchange, and with the exception of a 1% conversion fee, everything else is very convenient.

Help. Tis the season, and in high season, girls have also increased their prices. Regular going rate minimum here is $R200 to take a girl home, even at 3-4 in the morning. I couldn't believe it. For the first time, I had an average girl here ask me for $R500 for the night, to which I couldn't stop laughing. One reason for this is that, for Revellion, most Brazilians travel to Rio and most Cariocas seem to travel elsewhere. There were very few regular faces in Help this time around, and whenever you asked a girl where she was from, most said a location other than Rio. I almost felt that these girls were tourists that spent way too much money for Revellion and were now working to continue their vacation or make money to go home.

I found the best bet is to pick up a girl from Terrazo Atlantico if you wanted a Help girl. Just make sure to get her before she gets too drunk, otherwise sloppy sex is a coming!

Safety Warning. Even experienced mongers can have safety problems. http://**************.com/vip/root.php?cat=6&ini=0 Pic ID 8096

Had a girl try to renegotiate during sex from $R200 to $R500. I said no, take your money and leave, and she proceeded to get violent, tore up my apt, stabbed me with a broken door handle, etc., and then laughed about it, even when the police showed up.

Way to save yourself from being extorted by police. Say over and over again that you want to talk to your consular representative to make a report. Pull out your camera and start taking pictures right away. Tell them that you are required to make a report as soon as that you leave the police department. Demand to speak with your consular representative. When I did this, the military police (which for sure would have extorted me) turned this whole thing over to the tourist police. I did the same thing in front of them, and was then transported with her to the Tourist Police station in Leblon, where my english speaking detective made a big scene at yelling at her, calling her an idiot, etc.

Don from Amerioca Tours was walking by at 5am as the police were in front of my building, and took a taxi to Leblon police station. He translated everything, etc. The girl got visibly shaken and that smile was wiped off of her face when Don showed up and said that he or his lawyer-friend would go to court on my behalf. According to the detective, the fine she will receive is $R1000 ($R575) since I am not going to appear. Don is going to see this thru on my behalf because he is pissed about what she did in the APT and how she tried to break his stuff (this apt and its furnishing was his former in-living apt before he decided to rent it out to us friendly-mongerers.)

Travel from Rio to Sao Paulo. My flight was cancelled, other flights were full. I decided to go to Sao Paulo to catch a flight home. Bus to Rodovaria ($R2.50) took me to the main bus terminal. Caught a bus from Rio to Sao Paulo ($R70 for 7 hour ride). Buses were really clean, really plush. Once at the main terminal, caught another bus to the airport. Made a flight home that nite! Woohoo, America!

All in all, a great experience and a humbling experience. Im an experienced monger, but this reminded me that things can get crazy from time to time. Will I be back to Brazil? Hell ya I will be! Hopefully soon! Hopefully tommorrow! Hopefully to stay forever! HOOAH!

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El Austriaco
01-22-08, 20:48
We are now The Global Brotherhood.

Let me know how you all feel about this?

It is all about having more fun!

Cenoteguy
Cenoteguy,

I think you would get more responses if you actually posted direct links to your reports rather than just tell people to look for them in the Fortaleza thread. But anyhow.

Here's why I think that what you are trying to do will NOT work:

1) Any attempt at "collusion" (or price-fixing, to use Thanos' terminology) in any industry, whether on the supply or on the demand side, only has a chance of succeeding whenever there are few, very few players on one side who communicate directly and both have a vested and similar interest in making that arrangement work. With thousands and thousands of mongers and thousands and thousands of P4P providers, this is as far from the above scenario as it could possibly be. Especially as mongers, we are far too many and far too diverse in far too many individual aspects (time constraints, budget constraints, personal likes and dislikes, etc. etc.), and while we are communicating and exchanging information more effectively than before (e.g. via ISG), there is still nothing resembling any consensus on ANYTHING among mongers (BTW, I don't think that there should be any consensus).

2) Price-fixing on the demand side (i.e. us clients) stands a much better chance of succeeding whenever, on the supply side, we are talking about highly standardized and therefore ultimately randomly exchangeable commodities. Nothing could be farther from that than a service like P4P, where some mongers place an especially high premium on looks (which are entirely subjective) or attitude (even more subjective, probably).

3) If anything, the supply side (i.e. girls) would stand a much better chance than we do as mongers to come to any kind of price-fixing arrangement, simply because they 1. care relatively little about who buys their services and 2. communicate much more effectively (GDP network!). Even in that case, this only works "somewhat" in certain, well-defined areas (say, Copacabana) and with a certain, well-defined target customer group (inexperienced tourists who speak no Portuguese), as GDS are effectively able to skew/limit the market perception of these customers to make their service offering look good. In other words, these GDPs are attempting to "brand" their services to certain customers the same way any other service provider in any other industry would to obtain a premium. And just like anywhere else, as long as you buy that, you pay more.

4) Instead of telling people that they "shouldn't" pay more, it would be much more fruitful to show people that they "don't have to". How? The same way that budget mongers like Sperto, Christopherd, Ibiza et al. (I might include myself in that list) have reported on lower-priced options in Rio and elsewhere, thereby increasing the P4P market transparency: by reporting on cheaper options, by exploring new territories beyond Copacabana, beyond the reach of the Copa sharks. By mapping all different segments of the supply side (from 1 R$ per minute fast-foda places to the highest of the high-end joints/escort agencies), all of us are becoming smarter consumers, as simple as that. And as a matter of fact, this runs directly counter to the intentions of the typical Copa GDP who tries to tell newbies that "well, R$ 200/R$ 300, that's what sex costs in Rio!". This has been shown to be untrue... over and over again.

So instead of trying to get everyone onboard to pay no more than whatever (and BTW, I personally think that even R$ 250 TLN is too high), just stop paying those prices, seek out cheaper or better options, and report on them here, just like many other ones have done. And whenever you meet other mongers in real life, tell them about other options and show them, the same way an American expatriate showed me cheaper options in Centro back in 2004. That's brotherhood in real life :)

EA

Carrib
01-23-08, 02:17
very well said EA

Smokers Rule
01-23-08, 03:09
Plus, the whole brotherhood thing is kinda creepy as proposed in the Fortaleza thread ;)

Thanos
01-23-08, 05:22
Mexidan,

Who was the girl? Any pics of her? What did she look like?

Cenoteguy
01-24-08, 04:05
So much for my political aspirations.

No, really. It was a good thought and it provoked some interesting discussion.

Anyhow, we plan on having some fun and will of course keep studing, learning, and benefiting from this Web Site via sharing.

Thanks for the input. Can't wait to post some very hot pics via our future travels.

Cenoteguy

Jan 156
01-24-08, 16:05
It just struck me (mindful of a monger I met last year who had difficulty climbing stairs) that although most of the Centro venues require you to climb at least one flight, Carioca 59 has a lift. It´s a bit old - you have to remember to close both iron grilles. But a lift has another advantage: you can start at the top and work your way down (rather than passing by girls on lower floors).

Some visits may be duds though.


Another option - and a very different style of experience - is the tower block apartments. There is no rush, plenty of privacy, and generally a degree of peace and quiet rather than the blaring music of the walk-ups.

On the other hand, the elevator system can be a trial. In tall buildings like Rio Branco 156 (adjacent to Carioca Metro Station), there are sets of lifts dedicated to different floors, sometimes with queues. You may go through several different addresses (I tried 3 doors before I got a reply) in the same block and then find no girls that you like. But they are at least modern elevators in an air-con environment.

Today I tried Rio Branco 156, apartment numbers 506, 1706, 1825 and finally got in at 1833 (It helps to know what you are going to say maybe if someone answers and it is no longer a terma.) This one had about 8 girls on today. It was like a mid-range from Carioca 59, no absolute beauties but no uglies either. They are shown in to a cabin to greet you individually (quite common in apartments and a bit like some Australian parlours). Then you indicate by name the girl of your choice. Reasonable room, fan and fridge (colas were 2 for 5R - I can´t recall the price of beer). Double bed. You´d maybe put it in the ´upper lower-end´ like Casarao, but different atmosphere.

Cost was 45R for 30mins. Payment at the end.

If you do these blocks and are on a high floor, it´s worth checking out the view from the window while you wait for the lifts.

Jan 156
01-24-08, 16:09
Anyhow, we plan on having some fun and will of course keep studing, learning, and benefiting from this Web Site via sharing.
Cenoteguy

But who is the ´we´?

I have a great problem with any ´us and them´ philosophy. Globalisation would be fine if it weren´t for ´us and them´ attitudes. My only aim in megotiating prices is to get a fair price, not to push someone further down in the rut they´re in, or chisel them out of a fair price. If a woman has too much of a ´start high´attitude I usually avoid her anyway.

American Warrior
01-24-08, 19:20
So much for my political aspirations.

No, really. It was a good thought and it provoked some interesting discussion.

Anyhow, we plan on having some fun and will of course keep studing, learning, and benefiting from this Web Site via sharing.

Thanks for the input. Can't wait to post some very hot pics via our future travels.

Cenoteguy

I was your Al Gore on the matter. At first I wanted to be President till the mongers rejected my same idea of price fixing. I was weilling to jump on as your VP like the Democrats did Al Gore via Clinton. But lets Keep Hope alive, now I sounding like Jesse. Now all we need a a Barack preaching change in Rio (any volunteers).

Jazzy Daddy
01-24-08, 20:47
I arrived via a continental flight on Thursday the 17th. I hadn't really planned to go to Rio as I have a 3 week trip to Asia(PI,BKK,Cambo) at the end of February but after reading Cristophered's very visual accounts in Belo Hor. I couldn't help myself and I cashed in 135k miles and got a 1st class ticket to Rio for 5 glorious days.

The flight touched down around 12:30pm, cleared customs, I got some reis from a porter and made my way upstairs to the departure level and grabbed a cab(R28).Checked into Hotel Ibis in Centro. This Hotel is really great if you want to be smack dab in the heart of working class of Rio. Clean rooms, great shower and good service from the staff(knowing Portuguese is a plus IMHO).

I had some difficulty trying to call the US on my global phone but after asking instructions from the 3 different hotel staff, I finally got the right combination of numbers to call out, they are 00211-area code-seven digit number(00211-999-222-2222).

I gave Christophered(an extremely knowledgeable and a great connoisseur of the delicacies that centro has to offer) a call and we met up late afternoon. Went to a nearby restaurant and soon he was showing me some of the nearby casas. We went to Casarao on Rua Carioca went up one flight to a small bar. As we walked into the dimly lighted bar 2 morenas were talking near the entrance, I walked up to the 1 that appealed to my criteria(well propornioned body and phat bunda)started talking and after a few moments we decided to leave and I told her I'd be back soon. Cristophered and I left but I kept thinking about that bunda and I told him we'd meet up later.

Before he left I asked the price at Casarao he said R1 for 1 min. I went back upstairs and the girl was talking with a local but when she saw me she came right over and we sat down. She opened up at R100 for an hour I thought WTF. We continued to discuss the price and got her down to R50 for 40 min. I was under the impression that it was R1 for 1min. so I told her I would see her later, she seemed stunned. We kissed each others cheeks and I was gone. Later I found out from my good friend Christophered that the price at R50 for 40 min was their actual prices,he had made a slight error.

I made my way down to Rua Buenos Aires and the famous 85. Walked the way too narrow spiral staircase passing floor after floor of rooms with somewhat ugly garotas, still looking for that gem I knew had to be there. Sure enough when I got up to the top floor a beautiful morena was at the railing talking with some local. The bar was empty but she met my criteria perfectly. I waited patiently for the guy to leave. Finally out of desperation I waved her over. I asked the price for 40 min she cooed back R40 I asked completa she says mais ou menos. The next 40 min were spent in absolute sensual abandonment. Welcome back to Rio...

Bravo
01-24-08, 23:14
I guess I learned this lesson the hard way!! ALWAYS sign out when you view this board from the internet cafe!! Dude, who ever you are, you are a f*cking a**hole!!! Not only did you use my name to post a response, you also went into my PMs to grab the info.

Post number #1720 under the general info thread was not me!! Sorry if anyone was offended!!

Cenoteguy
01-25-08, 05:19
Christophered:

The "we" is me and my buddies.

There is no "attitude" (global or non global) associated with my use of words or secret message that you may have sensed? But more importantly. Aside from the psyco babble.

My plan is never to chizel a girl down, but to play the game as they play with some of "us". Oh, shit, I used "us".

I really don't give a crap about their "bad luck" due to bad decisions and how they may be poor and needy. Shall I play the violins in the background? I don't feel sorry for some idiot trying to hustle is a sea filled with sharks. It is dog eat dog and "we" should be guided to the best possible market at that given time.

Everyone deals with things differently. I am basically a "group leader" on most trips and my opinion and judgement calls are usually followed by my comrades. Thus I use WE and US terminology. Nothing personal.

Hitmanm3
01-25-08, 14:22
Christophered:

The "we" is me and my buddies.

There is no "attitude" (global or non global) associated with my use of words or secret message that you may have sensed? But more importantly. Aside from the psyco babble.

My plan is never to chizel a girl down, but to play the game as they play with some of "us". Oh, shit, I used "us".

I really don't give a crap about their "bad luck" due to bad decisions and how they may be poor and needy. Shall I play the violins in the background? I don't feel sorry for some idiot trying to hustle is a sea filled with sharks. It is dog eat dog and "we" should be guided to the best possible market at that given time.

Everyone deals with things differently. I am basically a "group leader" on most trips and my opinion and judgement calls are usually followed by my comrades. Thus I use WE and US terminology. Nothing personal.People,

I joined this site for the information and stories that all the great OG monglers have to share with us new monglers, so if you are sensitive about what is said on a thread or forum take a sensitivity course and lets move on to what is important to all of us here, wich is BUNDA and the stories that come with it. Please lighten up.

Mexidan
01-25-08, 15:07
Mexidan,

Who was the girl? Any pics of her? What did she look like?I picked up this girl at Help Disco. She is always there! But that violent temper once you get to the room.

Jan 156
01-25-08, 15:28
Inspired by a few Skols, I did some more research on behalf of my good buddy Euro . . . <g>

While the best latrine (complete with seat, bright light etc), as already mentioned, is in Casa 62, etiquette requires you there to at least ingratiate yourself by drinking, dancing or dipping your dongleur (it´s a friendly sort of casa, nice ambience, main strip, same side as Praca Bandeira - good to get to know the people there).

But what if you require a more ready made option?

In Casa 20 they offer use of the latrine to non-customers for 1R, which is quite reasonable. For that, at least, you can ask for paper.

Casa 20 is the one with pink and UV strip lights. It connects both sides of the U-street with a little gate on the east side that appears to be padlocked but isn´t. They also tend (on most nights) to have a very reasonable quality of girls (which makes it even easier to save on 1R lol). Cabines are reasonable - about mid-quality for VM, not as rough as the ´cage´ bar or Casa 56, but not as ´plush´ as one or two options that have double beds and slightly cleaner and fresher looking covers. Beer prices ok and a reasonable video juke box that you can sit and watch.

Or you could go for the executive option . . . .

(Which is: don´t take a dump in Mimosa!)

Jan 156
01-25-08, 15:33
Christophered:
The "we" is me and my buddies.

Everyone deals with things differently. I am basically a "group leader" on most trips and my opinion and judgement calls are usually followed by my comrades. Thus I use WE and US terminology. Nothing personal.

no worries mate - i wasn´t clear on your meaning and it hit a raw nerve. Hope to see some posts on your adventures some time.

take care, and all the best

Christopherd

Kcrl01
01-25-08, 18:35
I picked up this girl at Help Disco. She is always there! But that violent temper once you get to the room.Guys, is he talking about Flavia? Match the fotos!

Kcrl01
01-25-08, 18:42
I picked up this girl at Help Disco. She is always there! But that violent temper once you get to the room.Ran the foto thru Office Foto, cleaned it up a tad. It is Flavia! She got violent, eh? Good to know, I almost hooked with her on my last Hio Hop!

Mr Enternational
01-25-08, 19:20
Inspired by a few Skols, I did some more research on behalf of my good buddy Euro . . . <g>
In Casa 20 they offer use of the latrine to non-customers for 1R, which is quite reasonable. For that, at least, you can ask for paper.

Casa 20 is the one with pink and UV strip lights. It connects both sides of the U-street with a little gate on the east side that appears to be padlocked but isn´t. They also tend (on most nights) to have a very reasonable quality of girls (which makes it even easier to save on 1R lol). Cabines are reasonable - about mid-quality for VM, not as rough as the ´cage´ bar or Casa 56, but not as ´plush´ as one or two options that have double beds and slightly cleaner and fresher looking covers. Beer prices ok and a reasonable video juke box that you can sit and watch.

Am I sitting and watching from the throne?!

Rio Bob
01-25-08, 21:54
I have been going to Help for the past 8 nights, I have never seen this place have so many beautiful girls there like this year. I didn take one home last night because I stopped there at 3:30 AM after being in the swing club in Copa but I had the most beautiful girls coming up to me and offering duplas at 200 a head.

I say 200 a head as if itś cheap because during the week I have heard quotes of 600, 500, 400 and of course 300 but I never paid more than 200. I told the girls that itś not Carnaval yet so you can be charging Carnaval prices.

So I left Help last night about 4:30 AM, the tables and chairs near the exit were full of girls just sitting there alone, there were so many beautiful girls alone there it was amazing but I had nothing left for the night.

Jan 156
01-25-08, 22:37
Am I sitting and watching from the throne?!

Dunno . . . I tried not to look to closely at who was on it . . . <g>

But if you´re up there tomorrow night maybe meet for a beer? I´ll probably head up after Sambodrome

Ohp1972
01-25-08, 23:12
I picked up this girl at Help Disco. She is always there! But that violent temper once you get to the room.Man,

There have been reports on her on this forum & others about her! I have had Drama with her too. Not as extreme as yours but drama non-the-less! Thanx on behalf of the forum for giving a face with the DRAMA!

HoleRanger
01-26-08, 01:11
I have been going to Help for the past 8 nights, I have never seen this place have so many beautiful girls there like this year. I didn take one home last night because I stopped there at 3:30 AM after being in the swing club in Copa but I had the most beautiful girls coming up to me and offering duplas at 200 a head.

I say 200 a head as if itś cheap because during the week I have heard quotes of 600, 500, 400 and of course 300 but I never paid more than 200. I told the girls that itś not Carnaval yet so you can be charging Carnaval prices.

So I left Help last night about 4:30 AM, the tables and chairs near the exit were full of girls just sitting there alone, there were so many beautiful girls alone there it was amazing but I had nothing left for the night.I don't think most of the girls factored in the currency market changes. Many are selecting destinations other than Rio.The girls all come for a piece of the pie but so did many others. I will be there in four days and I hope the asking prices continue to take a downward turn. Either way I come to play:)

Enjoy!

American Warrior
01-26-08, 01:31
Ran the foto thru Office Foto, cleaned it up a tad. It is Flavia! She got violent, eh? Could to know, I almost hooked with her on my last Hio Hop!
It is amazing how these girls have split personalities. I promise you last week while my brother and me were there, she help me out with several garotas, telling them that I was cool. She always cosigns for me. Sorry for your experience with her.

Chris H
01-26-08, 03:37
It is amazing how these girls have split personalities. I promise you last week while my brother and me were there, she help me out with several garotas, telling them that I was cool. She always cosigns for me. Sorry for your experience with her.

Gotta 2nd that one by Qdog, Flavia has always been real cool towards me. Just goes to show, you cant trust these hoes!!!

Chris H

Romello
01-26-08, 04:48
Guys, is he talking about Flavia? Match the fotos!Yup. She's gained weight.

She tried to kidnap my cousin back in December. Hah

JohnnyBraz
01-26-08, 09:40
Yup. She's gained weight.

She tried to kidnap my cousin back in December. HahIt is amazing how desparate gdp's become when they gain weight.

Rio Bob
01-26-08, 14:00
I picked up this girl at Help Disco. She is always there! But that violent temper once you get to the room.

I was tempted to take this girl past couple of nights simply because of that YouTube of her coming out of the water video, we spoke about the video, she told me she has never seen it but her friends have told her about it. Thanks for the heads up.

Jan 156
01-26-08, 14:22
I arrived via a continental flight on Thursday the 17th. I hadn't really planned to go to Rio as I have a 3 week trip to Asia(PI,BKK,Cambo) at the end of February but after reading Cristophered's very visual accounts in Belo Hor. I couldn't help myself and I cashed in 135k miles and got a 1st class ticket to Rio for 5 glorious days.

I gave Christophered (an extremely knowledgeable and a great connoisseur of the delicacies that centro has to offer) a call and we met up late afternoon. Went to a nearby restaurant and soon he was showing me some of the nearby casas. We went to Casarao on Rua Carioca went up one flight to a small bar. As we walked into the dimly lighted bar 2 morenas were talking near the entrance, I walked up to the 1 that appealed to my criteria(well propornioned body and phat bunda)started talking and after a few moments we decided to leave and I told her I'd be back soon. Cristophered and I left but I kept thinking about that bunda and I told him we'd meet up later.

Before he left I asked the price at Casarao he said R1 for 1 min.

Sorry you never made it to BH. It took me several attempts as going via RJ seems to be near fatal! But it was good to meet a like minded person who enjoys the music and culture of Rio as well as the other services. Especially when Centro is so full of great theatres, bars and music venues.

btw sorry about the Casarao thing. I sometimes tend to slip into a Brasilian definition of accuracy after a few days here without resisting too much. I maybe said ´they´re all around 1R a minute´ as I think of CR in that category (30R or 40R for a half hour, no big difference) as opposed to upmarket. Forgot to mention it was fixed price, just assumed you knew. But it made a great story hearing how you tried to haggle the girl down!

Hope you´re enjoying Asia. I made another trip to 4x4 last night, spurred on by your ecstatic story of duplas there. But I couldn´t quite bring myself to spring the prices on this occasion. I was looking at my watch, thinking there´s too many guys here tonight, at least as many as chicks. Vila Isabel is doing Sambodrome at 10.30pm - shall I just pay my entrance fee and quit? Then I started laughing and getting heavily into a petite brown girl who changed my mind (I even spent the extra 20R for the hour). I was her last customer, and as I gazed into her deep brown eyes and she pouted, telling me of the 40-minute bus ride back to Caixas, I was soooo tempted to ask her back to the hotel conveniently along the road, but then I guess I like my independent space a lot of the time. (Too many lovely women, always too little time.)

I was surprised to see Casarao was still open as I walked back around midnight (it usually closes early). Maybe the girls are packing things in (no pun intended) before things shut down for Carnaval . . .

Scotob
01-26-08, 14:27
I have been on vacation to Rio many times since 1986, and I just returned from a 12 day long stay there. Over the next few weeks, time permitting, I would like to post some obervations and reflections on my past trip. My beach time was always spent relaxing on the beach in Ipanema in front of Ceasar Park Hotel, actually just a few steps more towards Leblon. It is a wonderful and safe place to park oneself, and Jorge runs the best (and quite possibly) the cheapest barraca on Ipanema beach. The first few days, I bring a book to read, but I have never once opened them, so I usually stop bringing one after the 2nd or 3rd day. Watching the interactions amongst the tourists, the garottas on the program and the regulars are enough entertainment to keep one busy the entire afternoon. I usually arrive around 1pm and stay till 7pm, weather permitting. I ended out with an incredible tan, although never once did I sit directly in the sun. Always, I sat under an umbrella until at least 5:30pm. Be careful with the sun, as it can be brutal!

As an experienced Rio regular knows, some of the women on the program do all there business via the beach, and would never be caught in Help. There is always a great assortment there to interact with. Others do the beach thing during the day, and Help at night. I have much more to share with all and I look forward to the next few weeks posting my views. I hope I don't offend anyone over the next few weeks, as I have always found this board to be both entertaining and informative.

Scotob
01-26-08, 17:41
Out of 11 nights, I went to Help 4 times. Believe it or not, it seemed as if the worse night was Saturday, and the best display was on Thursday. There was something have to do with Carnival and some performances in Lleblon on Saturday, so that may have had something to do with the weak night. The beginning asking price was normally 300R and I brought it down to either 200 or 250. I do speak decent Portuguese, and I was not going to haggle over 50R. Remember my friends, although the price most often does go down as the night gets later and later, the quality of service may also go down as quite often the garottas are quite drunk by this late time, and there performance does suffer. Once, I told the garotta to sleep it off, and we shall continue in the early afternoon, which she happily agreed to. It seems as if the women with the pure European look, often from Sao Paulo begin at either 500R or 400R, and often will not negotiate. Two stunners would not even entertain 300R at the 1PM hour, which I guess isn't much of a surprise. A funny experience happened once when I made eye contact with one I considered a real beauty and as most know, once eye contact is made, they give you many smiles as well as an incredible and erotic dance performance just for you to observe. Well, I got the entire royal treatment, and her price was 300R. I decided to pass and maybe wait. Well, this night went till 5:15pm, and I decided to take a cab home by myself. No great loss. She was my favorite, but I didn't see her past 5PM, so I figured she had left alone. Well, low and behold, on my cab ride home, there she is walking with some of her friends back to her apt. I had the cab stop next to her, and I pulled down the window and proceeded to reintroduce myself. She gave me a huge smile, and I asked her to come back for 200R for a few hours. She insisted that she still wouldn't budge below 300R. I reminded her of the time, yet she still would not budge. So, she received nothing from me but many compliments throughout the evening. She ended out with zero for her evenings work. What kind of business woman is that, I ask?

Be careful if one of the women who you have befriended, asks you for a drink. Often before you know it, they are also asking you for a drink for there friend too, and more often than not, the friend of a stunner is often one that is not too great of a looker. Also, if you do agree, make sure its only for 1 drink. Twice, I went in line with the woman, and I would give the cashier a 20R bill for 1 drink, and the friend would quickly shout for 2 or 3 tickets of the same drink before I could say no. Never give more than a 5R bill or definitely no more than a 10R bill!

The dancing amongst the women is incredible and I enjoy myself everytime I go, whether I bring someone back with me or not.

From what I have been told by some of my Help regulars who have become my friends over the years, be careful if you spot a woman just drinking Red Bull. Sometimes they are the ones doing cocaine in the bathroom. As many know, what goes on in the girls bathroom is quite wild. Drugs, fighting amongst themselves over a guy, as well as the many lesbions who go there to reaquaint themselves with there female friends are just some of the things that go on in there.

I hope this provides some information to everyone, although I am sure most is already known.

Jan 156
01-26-08, 19:08
As most of you will know, finding hottie in Centro at weekends can be something of a damp squib. Most places are closed. Get the phone out or get out and look? I opted for the latter.

A facefull of food at the best of three nearby kilogrammas first. I’m not denying there are some excellent restaurants in Rio, or that there isn’t an abundance of basic good food. But the average eaterie is just that – basic. When it comes to combining ingredients or using any refinement of culinary skills, Brasil would not make my top ten. Undercook it, overcook it, keep it luke-warm for as long as possible, add too little (or usually too much) seasoning and, never use delicate herbs or cooking alcohol (let’s face it, the salt was a bit hit and miss so let’s not get complicated). But I need protein for the day, so gorge on chicken (how does the same chef cook it well on Tuesday and awful the rest of the week??) and salad. And at that price one can hardly complain (well, I can if you insist – Estacio Kilogramma - the Botafogo one, not the one of the same name in Copa - challenges some of the best of the expensive restaurants. Yesterday I had three courses, starting with excellent sushi, and still had change from 15R. I did send back the margarita - and remarkably they didn’t charge. I had to explain amicably about three times how to make a this cocktail, how it didn’t include green colouring, how it should not bear a striking resemblance to a slush puppy, however pretty. It was a shame. The barman was evidently very proud of his creation.

Back to Centro. Carioca 59 sports a single floor. Uru24 had a couple open (this is early afternoon – they shut at 3pm) but the girls looked exceptionally unenthusiastic about their vocation. I headed across Vargas for a haunt I have a soft spot for – Leandro M No.5 – but my fave garota was having a day off. (No wonder – she is earning good money these days to judge by her new LG phone). A big bunda´d lady gets me up to dance – except she can’t dance and I hate being humoured. Especially without a cerveja. Good pickings otherwise – about 8 do-able girls on and only one or two guys. The other girls hang back to give Big Bunda a chance. But I don’t know the Portuguese for, ´Although I like variety, I generally prefer my girls to be capable of squeezing into a tube of toothpaste.´ Anyway, I always think good manners takes precedence over linguistic skills (except DATY of course . . . )

I go a block or two further west. Music blaring and a few saggy red balloons suggest a place of ill-repute. (If you wanted to find this particular one, stay on Uruguiana as you cross Vargas, then turn left onto Rua Teofilo Otoni – it´s a walk-up a few yards along on the right between 162 and 170.) A sullen Brasilian blocks the entrance. I ignore him and walk up. All the girls come up and introduce themselves one by one, which is kinda posh for a cheap joint. My toothpaste tube girl is last but one and exchanges a sort of knowing smile from the corner of her eyes. A good start. We start to chat over a couple of soft drinks. Nice tables. Loud music makes talking almost impossible so I just joke and tease her. 40R for the half-hour. The music stops abruptly and I suggest we pay and go upstairs. The fat gentleman at the cash desk / refrigerator starts giving my gyp. Firstly he tries the ´Brasilians only´ crap, then wants to know if I would like to pay extra for ´music in the room´. I have my own camisinha but he still wants an exorbitant extra 5R for the room and accessories. I pay him to get shot of his unsavoury face.

The ´rooms´ are just average cubicles, curtained off. Toothpaste girl uses her shoes to fix the bottom of the curtain to the floor to make it more like a door. The jukebox starts again but we can talk over it now. Toothpaste girl is fairly passive but ok. I don’t totally trust this crowd – maybe just my imagination – but I’m not keen to stay too long. As I start to leave people start hassling me for money. I wave them aside and split, thanking the casa mama at the entrance profusely.

Round the corner on Vargas, I’m sipping one of the worst acai’s I’ve had for days. Five minutes later the casa mama comes up, very polite. Says I never paid for the drinks. I assure her I did. She assures me I didn’t. I’m thinking it’s only 6R, what the heck; but then I remember it was a tab-at-the-door joint. Sh*t. I feel in my pocket – there it is – my unpaid tab. I apologize profusely – sinto muito – they weren’t hassling me after all.

Wander back to Tiradentes through Uruguiana market. People are queuing up for the best of the sizzling steaks. The air is filled with smoke and festa and tea shirts you would only wear once. Saturday’s not so bad a day after all . . .

Madd Love
01-26-08, 20:27
I met a GDP in Brazil and seen her in the states. She was speaking with me and comparing prices for Sx. She told me some guy she met told her prices here in the U.S. And the girl went off telling her friends in Rio. She also said a lot of Americans Speak Sht. About money etc....

I think this does take into account of the girls quoting ridiculous prices in Help.

Also she told me a lot of guys bragg about things they got and how much money they make etc...

This also adds to the effect of them quoting high prices.

I just want to say be careful what you say to GDP. Your job, how much you make, prices in America, Europe, etc.... just don't tell them.

You are only there for a service they are GDP's and like some other guy on here said you would not take a prostitute working in your city home to your mother would you?

Prices should be R250 MAX on regular nights no more. Whats the deal with guys over paying? Are you that desperate, there is pssy elsewhere besides help, and I am sure there are other GDP's in help that would gladly take R200-R250 for all night. This is half's month income for average Brazillians.

Look it up on wikepedia.

Average anual salary is $5,000-$7,000/ year.
Cost of living is different.

DON'T TELL A GDP OF THIS SITE OR HOW MUCH YOU MAKE, AND LIE ABOUT YOUR JOB. ETC...........................

I just don't want things to get out of hand with quotes like R350-R600.
When you can bang a hot chick in your own country for those prices

Madd Love
01-26-08, 20:33
Because of earlier incidents there are GDP's reading the board, because of a few guys that think they have girlfriends in Help or the termas told them about it, and they told some of their friends. I can't count the number of them now, there was about 4 I know of who actually told their friends about this forum.
Word spreads quick.

NEVER TELL A GDP of this site.

What are some of the guys that told the GDP's about this forum were thinking?

RxHammer
01-26-08, 21:36
Hey Guys

Just a heads up if you fly to Rio from the US.....Continental has dropped fares to the lowest I have seen in a while. West coast departures around $750 for March and April dates. I grabbed March 3rd-12th for $751..

Not bad, last time I paid over $950..

Hammer

Professor 1
01-27-08, 02:49
I just want to say be careful what you say to GDP. Your job, how much you make, prices in America, Europe, etc.... just don't tell them.

You give good advice. I tell the girls that I am a graduate student or junior faculty member at a small community college. I would certainly not reveal the real job, for obvious reasons, of my city. I am fortunate that I have lived in several places during my academic life, and can talk about different places.

DJ FourMoney
01-27-08, 08:22
I met a GDP in Brazil and seen her in the states. She was speaking with me and comparing prices for Sx. She told me some guy she met told her prices here in the U.S. And the girl went off telling her friends in Rio. She also said a lot of Americans Speak Sht. About money etc....

I think this does take into account of the girls quoting ridiculous prices in Help.

Also she told me a lot of guys bragg about things they got and how much money they make etc...

This also adds to the effect of them quoting high prices.

I just want to say be careful what you say to GDP. Your job, how much you make, prices in America, Europe, etc.... just don't tell them.
You are only there for a service they are GDP's and like some other guy on here said you would not take a prostitute working in your city home to your mother would you?

Prices should be R250 MAX on regular nights no more. Whats the deal with guys over paying? Are you that desperate, there is pssy elsewhere besides help, and I am sure there are other GDP's in help that would gladly take R200-R250 for all night. This is half's month income for average Brazillians.

Look it up on wikepedia.

Average anual salary is $5,000-$7,000/ year.
Cost of living is different.

DON'T TELL A GDP OF THIS SITE OR HOW MUCH YOU MAKE, AND LIE ABOUT YOUR JOB. ETC...........................

I just don't want things to get out of hand with quotes like R350-R600.
When you can bang a hot chick in your own country for those prices

I couldn't agree more!

Be smart, if you read this forum, do not regurgitate things you read here, women are women all over the world and they all act the same around MONEY and even if they are HOES, they don't like to be reminded of it.

I blame this on fools that struggle dating in real time at home and there for their vacations are sexual fantasies come true, get emotional and spill the beans after some GDP has given them the fucking of their life.

I don't think it would equal a general price hike, just more careful shopping and maybe less time spent in places like Help.

Rio Bob
01-27-08, 15:05
Out of 11 nights, I went to Help 4 times. Believe it or not, it seemed as if the worse night was Saturday, and the best display was on Thursday.

Yes I felt the same way, Thursday nigths in past 2 weeks were full of beautiful girls that I couldn´t believe it. Last night Saturday night even though I made a good choice the whole quality of the girls in general inside Help was no way near what it was on Thursday, I find that to be very strange as I used to think Saturday was the better night.

Lonzof
01-27-08, 15:31
yes i felt the same way, thursday nigths in past 2 weeks were full of beautiful girls that i couldn´t believe it. last night saturday night even though i made a good choice the whole quality of the girls in general inside help was no way near what it was on thursday, i find that to be very strange as i used to think saturday was the better night.


i agree. thursday the best night for helpee. i just returned from rio on yesterday and helpee was jammed packed with stunners, some usual faces and lots of new ones. i also went sunday and monday and both days were fantastic. although i have mixed opinions of helpee, i damn sure meet some hot women there this trip. maybe it's because carnival is next week.

also, someone reported earlier that carnival prices have already kicked in. this is very false. i did not, nor did i intend on paying carnival prices. i was quoted typical prices and in two occasions i was not quoted at all. the ladies simply stated "whatever you give me." i also banged a semi-gdp lol from helpee whom i meet two years ago and i gave her the same amount as two years ago. she was ok with it since i was more or less her boyfriend. that's has changed now that i only saw her just once this trip. there were entirely too many women all over zona sol and rio to be o lock down.

lonzof

Lonzof
01-27-08, 15:40
Because of earlier incidents there are GDP's reading the board, because of a few guys that think they have girlfriends in Help or the termas told them about it, and they told some of their friends. I can't count the number of them now, there was about 4 I know of who actually told their friends about this forum.
Word spreads quick.

NEVER TELL A GDP of this site.

What are some of the guys that told the GDP's about this forum were thinking?

Madd Love,

Guys who inform gdps of this site and others are just plain stupid. I met several gdp in zona sol and asked for their photos to not appear on the internet. Three years ago this was not the issue since most gdps allowed me to take their photos without issue.

Guys remember, this is a secret fraternity and when you tell gdps you have broken the oath and are now banded from this site. I really wish we could find out who the a-holes are. Maybe the poor usd/real exchange rate will keep most a-holes away. I noticed last week that there were fewer flashy Americanos and other foreigners.

Lonzof

Ryjerrob
01-27-08, 20:04
Hey Guys

Just a heads up if you fly to Rio from the US.....Continental has dropped fares to the lowest I have seen in a while. West coast departures around $750 for March and April dates. I grabbed March 3rd-12th for $751..

Not bad, last time I paid over $950..

Hammer

After reading your post, I did a little research.

From Midwest, May/June

Continental $820 RT plus fees
NWA $850 RT plus fees
Delta - Not worth mentioning

Allcheapfares.com $820 RT plus fees
Flycheapabroad.com $880 RT fees included

I guess if I did more of a detailed search I might find something cheaper.

ryjer

Chi Town Hustler
01-27-08, 22:06
After reading your post, I did a little research.

From Midwest, May/June

Continental $820 RT plus fees
NWA $850 RT plus fees
Delta - Not worth mentioning

Allcheapfares.com $820 RT plus fees
Flycheapabroad.com $880 RT fees included

I guess if I did more of a detailed search I might find something cheaper.

ryjerBrol.com

From ORD to GIG on American $777.30 leaving 2/27

George90
01-27-08, 22:20
I guess if I did more of a detailed search I might find something cheaper.

ryjer

I think those fares are about right for that time of year. I doubt you will find much cheaper. Our summer is the slow period and fares are reduced. Given the price of jet fuel, anything under $1,000 rt to Rio or SP, with no connections, is a pretty good fare.

I usually fly TAM. My most recent low-season fare (last March) was $850 to Salvador via SP.

Chris H
01-27-08, 23:03
After reading your post, I did a little research.

From Midwest, May/June

Continental $820 RT plus fees
NWA $850 RT plus fees
Delta - Not worth mentioning

Allcheapfares.com $820 RT plus fees
Flycheapabroad.com $880 RT fees included

I guess if I did more of a detailed search I might find something cheaper.

ryjer
By the way, NW does NOT go to GIG. They sale seats for CO on their website, it is a codeshare type thing.

Chris H

Scotob
01-27-08, 23:21
I was recently told by a Help regular that the difference between now and a few years ago is that now, guys want a different gdp every night, while a few years ago, they would hang with 1 gdp for quite possibly a few days which would include beach/pool time, nice dinners, and quite possibly a few hours shopping all to be included in the days spent together. Just an observation by her.

Cho 637
01-28-08, 10:12
I was recently told by a Help regular that the difference between now and a few years ago is that now, guys want a different gdp every night, while a few years ago, they would hang with 1 gdp for quite possibly a few days which would include beach/pool time, nice dinners, and quite possibly a few hours shopping all to be included in the days spent together. Just an observation by her.

A few years ago, they didn't expect to do all of that AND get paid too!

American Warrior
01-28-08, 22:24
QUOTE=Lonzof]Madd Love,

Guys who inform gdps of this site and others are just plain stupid. I met several gdp in zona sol and asked for their photos to not appear on the internet. Three years ago this was not the issue since most gdps allowed me to take their photos without issue.

Guys remember, this is a secret fraternity and when you tell gdps you have broken the oath and are now banded from this site. I really wish we could find out who the a-holes are. Maybe the poor usd/real exchange rate will keep most a-holes away. I noticed last week that there were fewer flashy Americanos and other foreigners.

Lonzof[/QUOTE]



Alot of gdps know about this site and it is due to you guys catching feelings for them. When they tell me of this site I act dumbfounded and say I know nothing about it. By the way I was over a gdps apartment and her television was bigger than my two 37 inch tvs. She wanted to think the sucker I mean monger for it, so do I, it was quite nice. I can not question how a man spends his money but it is when they catch feelings then they believe their gdps have quit the business and seeing her picture on this site I guess causes them to cry to gdps but I seen your picture on such and such site (wah, wah Wah). Quit crying and take it as a lost. Many of my gdps have multiple sponsors and I would like to encourage all to continue giving cuase it is benefitting me.
Its call psychology 101, they show me emails and letters from their European and American sponsors, we laugh. I fuck them and than when they ask for money I say that you have more money than me you just received 1000R from Joe blow, I just viewed the letter with you.
So you sending a gdp 1000R cost you 1000R
Me fucking them for free -priceless.
I thought pimping was illegal.

It is IMHO that guys sending money are deseperate back in the place in which they orginate or they just have money to blow. Since I am a nice guy I am offering the following: Send me the 1000R per month and when you make it back to Rio I will be more than happy to have a girl of your taste there for you. I thought that that sounded stupid.

Jake993
01-29-08, 01:52
It is IMHO that guys sending money are deseperate back in the place in which they orginate or they just have money to blow. Since I am a nice guy I am offering the following: Send me the 1000R per month and when you make it back to Rio I will be more than happy to have a girl of your taste there for you. I thought that that sounded stupid.You bring up a good, but complicated point. A lot of guys fall hard for GDP's and sometimes they can't help it. Are they fools? Perhaps. What's their motivation for sending money to a GDP and getting nothing in return? Who knows.

But the bigger fool is the loud mouthed GDP who blabs to you and me about her idiot sponsor who sends her money. What the f**k is all THAT about. If she was as smart as she thinks she is, she would keep her trap (mouth not pussy) shut and get your money too!

You have to believe that there's a ration of guilt there, otherwise why would they spoil the gravy train? The REALLY smart ones are those who look like a million bucks, have a few thousand Reais coming via Western Union every month and hold out for for big bucks every night. If they go home empty 3 nights a week. Who cares? They have mailbox money coming. They maintain their self esteem, conserve their bodies, their reputation and can afford to hold out for $R700 while the skanks settle for $R200 or less.

Then there are the semi pros. During the month of January, 30%. 40% of the girls at HELP! Are from out of town. They are teachers, students, book keepers, and travel agents who all come to Rio for vacation and to HELP! To make some money. They come from Curitiba, SP, Recife, Belo Horizonte and countless other towns to make a little extra dough. For these girls, it's all about how much they can make in 30 days. BTW. It's the same deal in Moscow during the month of June. IMHO. If you go to HELP! During vacation season, you are crazy to go home with a Carioca. Much better deals with out of towners. A few weeks ago I met a babe in HELP! From Curitiba who makes $R1500 a month as a school teacher. She told me her goal for the month was R$3, 000. Two months pay. I asked her if she was on the program in Curitiba and she flatly said, "no way". Too dangerous. Too much risk in being recognized. The girl had a quota and was on a time limit. Highly motivated and willing to negotiate. Going home alone was a lost opportunity.

Of course. No rant would be compete without supporting Lonzof's point. What would possess a guy to tell a GDP about this or any other site? I just don't get it. Tell them you want to put a picture under your pillow, tell them you want one to spunk all over when you get home, tell them ANYTHING but for crying out loud DON'T tell them about the web sites.

I had a very nice session last July with a gal at LH. I enjoyed it so much that after a 30 minute break I did a repeat with her and her friend. And then I came back two days later and did her again. She was incredible. Of course, being a good monger I wrote all about it on the Internet (not this site. Different one). So what was my reward? You guessed it. Some dipstick decided to print out the whole epistle in full detail and showed to her. Thanks a heck of a lot. You can imagine the ration of shit I got from her when I returned a few months later. I will never, never understand why guys do this. They are a disgrace to the community and should be ordered to surrender their "man card". Bloody pussies. Fucking traitors. Ok, I guess I am getting a little carried away. But you get my drift.

So the next time one of you feel compelled to blab about what you have seen on this or any other site to a GDP, grow a pair of testicles and keep this info to yourself. It's getting hard enough out there with the soft dollar, we don't need anything else driving the price of pussy up.

OK. I feel better now. Thanks for letting me rant.

Those of you going to HELP! Tonight. Remember, find out where they are from. The best deals are from the out-of-towners.

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Lonzof
01-29-08, 02:05
QUOTE=Lonzof]Madd Love,

Guys who inform gdps of this site and others are just plain stupid. I met several gdp in zona sol and asked for their photos to not appear on the internet. Three years ago this was not the issue since most gdps allowed me to take their photos without issue.

Guys remember, this is a secret fraternity and when you tell gdps you have broken the oath and are now banded from this site. I really wish we could find out who the a-holes are. Maybe the poor usd/real exchange rate will keep most a-holes away. I noticed last week that there were fewer flashy Americanos and other foreigners.

Lonzof



Alot of gdps know about this site and it is due to you guys catching feelings for them. When they tell me of this site I act dumbfounded and say I know nothing about it. By the way I was over a gdps apartment and her television was bigger than my two 37 inch tvs. She wanted to think the sucker I mean monger for it, so do I, it was quite nice. I can not question how a man spends his money but it is when they catch feelings then they believe their gdps have quit the business and seeing her picture on this site I guess causes them to cry to gdps but I seen your picture on such and such site (wah, wah Wah). Quit crying and take it as a lost. Many of my gdps have multiple sponsors and I would like to encourage all to continue giving cuase it is benefitting me.
Its call psychology 101, they show me emails and letters from their European and American sponsors, we laugh. I fuck them and than when they ask for money I say that you have more money than me you just received 1000R from Joe blow, I just viewed the letter with you.
So you sending a gdp 1000R cost you 1000R
Me fucking them for free -priceless.
I thought pimping was illegal.

It is IMHO that guys sending money are deseperate back in the place in which they orginate or they just have money to blow. Since I am a nice guy I am offering the following: Send me the 1000R per month and when you make it back to Rio I will be more than happy to have a girl of your taste there for you. I thought that that sounded stupid.[/QUOTE]

Quedog,

You're spot on. Dudes fall in love and tell gdp's about picture postings. Last week I bought a brand new iphone from gdp which was sent from Cali. I paid $150 reals!!! Since iphones are locked to att, she had no use for. First, I would like to thank the monger. Thank you bro. Next time I see her maybe she'll have a laptop for sale.

I too want part of the $1000 real per month.

Lonzof

RonnyRon
01-29-08, 02:37
Quedog,

You're spot on. Dudes fall in love and tell gdp's about picture postings. Last week I bought a brand new iphone from gdp which was sent from Cali. I paid $150 reals!!! Since iphones are locked to att, she had no use for. First, I would like to thank the monger. Thank you bro. Next time I see her maybe she'll have a laptop for sale.

I too want part of the $1000 real per month.

Lonzof

He must have lost his mind. I just don't know about some of these guys. Lack of pu$$y will make a man do some strange things. If, I ever do PLEASE slap me! Lonof, sound like you got part of it. LOL.

RR

David 35
01-29-08, 03:18
I just returned from my virgin trip to Rio and and boy it was a blast. First of all let me thank fellow mongers for thier support by informing well in this forum. My thoughts are personal and my opinion might not be common to all.

I stayed in an apartment in Ipenema and it was girl friendly and good security. I felt very much safe than new york city at night and my home country.

Apartment was nice and comfortable even thought slightly expensive.

I divided the time for sight seeing as well as termas.

I was in a tight schedule and wanted to experince the common peoples life as well.

Call Girls

Sampled the hotside.com. Br and ciaplus, and Karlas models. All aperated from favelas, from Rocinha favela, believe it or not.

Karlas girls are accurate and so the ciaplus. Hot side girls are waste of time and money.

In general its a hit and miss. Most girls are young but experienced. I had woderful morena by the name of dianne, one of the best escort girls.

They are difficukt to handle if you do not speak portugues adequately but with my littel porta I managed to get few of them.

Acenva
01-29-08, 04:46
Lonzof[/QUOTE]Alot of gdps know about this site and it is due to you guys catching feelings for them. When they tell me of this site I act dumbfounded and say I know nothing about it. By the way I was over a gdps apartment and her television was bigger than my two 37 inch tvs. She wanted to think the sucker I mean monger for it, so do I, it was quite nice. I can not question how a man spends his money but it is when they catch feelings then they believe their gdps have quit the business and seeing her picture on this site I guess causes them to cry to gdps but I seen your picture on such and such site (wah, wah Wah). Quit crying and take it as a lost. Many of my gdps have multiple sponsors and I would like to encourage all to continue giving cuase it is benefitting me.

Its call psychology 101, they show me emails and letters from their European and American sponsors, we laugh. I fuck them and than when they ask for money I say that you have more money than me you just received 1000R from Joe blow, I just viewed the letter with you.

So you sending a gdp 1000R cost you 1000R

Me fucking them for free -priceless.

I thought pimping was illegal.

It is IMHO that guys sending money are deseperate back in the place in which they orginate or they just have money to blow. Since I am a nice guy I am offering the following: Send me the 1000R per month and when you make it back to Rio I will be more than happy to have a girl of your taste there for you. I thought that that sounded stupid.

I would have to agree please stop sending money. ( no keep sending it I enjoy watching the clear flat screen TV and eating all the free food and getting free pussy.) I have been to quite a few GDP's apartments and watched the large flat screen TV that they brag about their sucker (boyfriend) back home paid for it. I will be back in March, so send your GDP's Direct TV so I can watch March Madness.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Voyajer1
01-29-08, 08:59
No kidding. When I was in Rio and Sao Paolo just recently, every gdp I spoke to seem to know not only about the internet. They knew about our little secret and they all asked me (For the last 3 years) not to post their photos here. I have a few hundred photos that I cannot share because of this. Remember, just as in Brazil, the mongers have united and post gdp performance in their own little network(s). Those on the know know what I'm talking about. They rarely post photos of the providers; however, like us, they describe gdps performances in detail. In this site, we post photos to back up our adventures. This is insider's information. The fact that people take this inside knowledge and blabber it to a 10 to 20 client a day provider because they fell in love is astounding. How many of you go to a strip club and fall in love with a dancer? Yeah, right. On the rare occasion that it happens, you have to know that you are dealing with damaged goods, so why bring the entire membership down with selfish interests? Women talk. Furthermore, gdp's have their own little insider's network. We all know it. So the more fools fall in love with gdps, show this website and blabber about us, it is only a matter of time before we all pay for their feelings. I am hopeful that no one gets the crap beat out of them to send a message. Trust me, I know it is coming. So be safe, careful and respect their privacy. Above all, STOP SHOWING GDPS THIS WEBSITE. Off my soapbox I go...

He must have lost his mind. I just don't know about some of these guys. Lack of pu$$y will make a man do some strange things. If, I ever do PLEASE slap me! Lonof, sound like you got part of it. LOL.

RR

Member #4156
01-29-08, 10:02
I guess I learned this lesson the hard way!! ALWAYS sign out when you view this board from the internet cafe!! Dude, who ever you are, you are a f*cking a**hole!!! Not only did you use my name to post a response, you also went into my PMs to grab the info.

Post number #1720 under the general info thread was not me!! Sorry if anyone was offended!!

I can only imagine that you used the one on Tudo é Facil on Xavier e Bolivar? Uh huh? Refer to my post from this summer.

Post #1154 (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=605954&postcount=1154)

Exec Talent
01-29-08, 12:04
I can only imagine that you used the one on Tudo é Facil on Xavier e Bolivar? Uh huh? Refer to my post from this summer.

Post #1154 (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=605954&postcount=1154)

How it happens:

In the left corner is the logon section. There is a option which is selected by default -- "Remember Me?" The first thing I do when I logon from an internet cafe is uncheck that box. Right unneath it is the logout option. Before I leave, I make sure I logout and get confirmation of the cookies being cleared. Then I open a new session of ISG and make sure it does not automatically log me in.

The reason this happens is because when the "Remember Me?" option is selected, the ISG site writes a cookie (a small text file which retains the logon information) onto the computer. When the next person logs in, they automatically retrieve that information from the cookie.

I was in an internet cafe earlier this year and opened up ISG and it came up with someone else logged in. I sent them a PM letting them know about this and logged their account out.

Jackson might consider unchecking the "Remember Me?" option and thereby not making it the default.

Ee2002
01-29-08, 12:15
You guys gotta clear the cookies and history on those computers at the internet cafes. I have personally used a computer and found that someone failed to log off or delete the history from a monger site.

Also Brazilians have access to these sites too. I was with a garota who told me her ex (Brazilian) saw her on the internet. This girls ex lived in the interior of Brazil not Rio or SP. She told me the only photo she took was for a "gringo" and she described the particular photo. It turned out to be the same photo I saw on this website prior to her telling me this (of course I played dumb). I don't usually buy what these girls say, but its food for thought. Bottom line is that the cats been out of the bag for a while now and guys are gonna have to be more careful and use more discretion when posting photos. This isn't the pre 2003 days anymore, these girls are a lot more knowledgible in what we do than ever before. Thanks to the world wide web, gdp net and big mouth suckers.

American Warrior
01-29-08, 15:59
Lonzof

I would have to agree please stop sending money. ( no keep sending it I enjoy watching the clear flat screen TV and eating all the free food and getting free pussy.) I have been to quite a few GDP's apartments and watched the large flat screen TV that they brag about their sucker (boyfriend) back home paid for it. I will be back in March, so send your GDP's Direct TV so I can watch March Madness.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.[/QUOTE]

Acenva, it sounds like you are watching the same tv that I am watching, you playing with my money man, I am the only illegal pimp here; lol. Actually Im must confess after leaving two weeks ago I let the gdp take all the skol beer and Patheon that I was not taking back on the plane. You probably drank my liquor, I have been played (lol). What next I guess that how it starts from giving alcohol next to gving 1000R, please help me.

Jake993
01-29-08, 15:59
believe it or not the gdp's have their own website where they post naked pictures of all the mongers LOLAre you serious or just kidding?

If you are serious then THAT would be some good counter intelligence to get a hold of.

Rio Bob
01-30-08, 01:22
I picked up this girl at Help Disco. She is always there! But that violent temper once you get to the room.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwdTGwIYtwc&feature=related

I had seen this video of her and someone asked me to post it.

Gatorman
01-30-08, 03:20
http://noticias.terra.com.br/brasil/interna/0,,OI2287721-EI8139,00.html

There is a report in another forum today that Club Help is being taken over by the government of the state of Rio de Janeiro. It says they intend to convert the building into a museum for image and sound. Anyone have more info on this? I hope it isn't true. If so, a little tear rolls down my face.

Buckwheat
01-30-08, 04:01
http://noticias.terra.com.br/brasil/interna/0,,OI2287721-EI8139,00.html

There is a report in another forum today that Club Help is being taken over by the government of the state of Rio de Janeiro. It says they intend to convert the building into a museum for image and sound. Anyone have more info on this? I hope it isn't true. If so, a little tear rolls down my face.I found the same info.
http://odia.terra.com.br/rio/htm/predio_da_boate_help_e_desapropriado_147906.asp

Basically it says. Club Help Closing

Reported Tuesday January 29, 2008 in the Diario Oficial declaration of public utilites, the building that is home to club Help has been dispossessed, meaning that the current owner (s) has been been relieved of the property.

The intention of Rio Governor Sergio Cabral is to install the Museum of Image and Sound which is currently housed in Centro.

I don't know if club Help has a number of days or months to operate.

Will club Help relocate to another location? We'll have to wait and see. Story developing.

Mr Enternational
01-30-08, 04:51
I was in September 2.006 in Rio during only 3 nights but I visited Help disco and I found some exciting girls.
Here I put a photo of a girl called Josiane. Really sexy and great ass.
And the better: 300 reais all night long.

Hotmann, i am glad you took her back to the room. Josy (Queen Latifah) has been known to cause alot of problems for mongers who talk with her for more than 30 minutes and dont take her. Her attitude is "If she spends time with you, than you should pay her for her company". A number of times Ive seen her in Help telling guys they owe her 200R, for talking/dancing and drinking!!

Well mate, she hardly looks athlectic from that photo. But josi queen bee has added on the pounds over the years and from the sounds off it added the price up as the pounds go on.

I know Josie and you definitely should have negotiated. No more than 150 Real all night with her. She's a cool chick but don't EVER pay more than 200 real out of help and she better be a stunner.


Word around the campfire is that she is now gravida (pregnant). Hotman couldn't be the pappy because his encounter was in '06. Are there any other takers on this board? She says it belongs to an American, but others say it belongs to a Brasileiro.

Madd Love
01-30-08, 05:18
http://noticias.terra.com.br/brasil/interna/0,,OI2287721-EI8139,00.html

There is a report in another forum today that Club Help is being taken over by the government of the state of Rio de Janeiro. It says they intend to convert the building into a museum for image and sound. Anyone have more info on this? I hope it isn't true. If so, a little tear rolls down my face.


I AM RIGHT WITH YOU. I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY ARE GOING TO CLOSE HELP.
I HOPE THEY OPEN ANOTHER CLUB LIKE HELP. I JUST READ THE REPORT.

DAMN I AM GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF MEMORIES THERE.

SAY IT AINT SO

Off Road
01-30-08, 09:33
I have been told some of the history. Help and Terraço Atlantico (the restaraunt/bar in front of help) are owned by the same person, you will see him sitting inside the purse room of Help some nights.

The land there is owned by an older woman. She leases the land to Help/TA on a yearly basis. Yearly she theatens to do something else with the land. She has the owner of Help/TA by the $$. He has to pay more and more each year to her. However, I dont think any of us need to be crying for him..

May not be true, but it was a reliable source. So this story could be part of the scheme to get more rent from H/TA.

(I posted this on another board too).

Chris H
01-30-08, 11:14
Word around the campfire is that she is now gravida (pregnant). Hotman couldn't be the pappy because his encounter was in '06. Are there any other takers on this board? She says it belongs to an American, but others say it belongs to a Brasileiro.

Yeah she is pregnant. I was told this by my friend that went with me to Rio in Nov. and the girl that he stays in contact with is good friends with her mom. Back in Nov. she did have a guy from the states come visit her that she was calling her boyfriend, so it might be his, who knows.

Chris H