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Andre3000
06-08-06, 00:54
Could anyone recommend a hotel/apartment service near Rua Oscar Freire in Jardins?

Thanks,

A.A

RexG
06-08-06, 06:22
Here are some responses to questions asked about my recent trip report.

1. Did you/ could you consider meeting the repeat girls elsewhere? They'd make more money and you'd spend less.

Yes, of course, I consider this, and I've done it frequently with termas girls in Rio. It just didn't work out in SP this time.

2. Did anyone use the pool at Milenium?

I did not see anyone in the pool.

3. Was the customs thing random in IAD?

No, it wasn't random. I think the passport control agent thought it notable that I was vacationing alone and not visiting anyone in particular in Brazil. He asked me some questions about this, and his tone suggested that he thought it was a little strange. Not hugely strange, but strange enough to consider a search. I think he was the one that made the decision to have my belongings searched, not the customs agent. And I think the suspicion was around sex trafficking or child porno, not drugs or terrorism. Or perhaps it was what I was wearing (brown shoes, black socks, dirty trenchcoat, fake Rolex).

4. Can you give me more information about the nightclubs, such as, are older guys welcome or do they cater mainly for youger cliental,also the cost of the girls,you told us how much the one you did not go with but not how much for the good ones.

Sao Paulo is a little more "uptown" than Rio/Copacabana. Leave your white socks and tennis shoes at home. (Don't take them to Rio either.) You can still wear jeans and a tee shirt to Millenium, but you'll be better off if they are clean, free of holes, and nice looking. A funny thing about SP in May is that the locals think it is pretty cold. The nightclubs have lots of security guards. Some of them were tall black guys looking very sharp in long navy blue topcoats (and a few were even wearing scarves). But it was 15 degrees centigrade outside, and I felt perfectly comfortable in my tee shirt. I think older guys are welcome everywhere in Brazil including SP nightclubs. I'm over 50 myself, and I have never felt out of place in a nightclub, terma, MP, Help or anywhere. This last trip I met a girl (Ellen) outside of Help who told me she had recently split with her Swiss boyfriend because she caught him cheating on her. Then she told me he was 73 years old.

In the SP nightclubs, I was prepared to pay up to R$200.00. I don't like bargaining very much, especially when there is a language barrier. If I thought the girl was really hot, I didn't bargain at all. R$200.00 was my first and final offer. I know some of you are pissed at me for paying too much. Please keep your flames civil, and I already know the "you are ruining it for everybody else" argument.

RexG
06-08-06, 06:32
Could anyone recommend a hotel/apartment service near Rua Oscar Freire in Jardins?

Thanks,

A.A

Mercure Jardins (Alameda Itu & Augusta) is quite close. From this hotel, walk ~5 blocks (away from Centro) on Augusta, and you'll come to R. Oscar Freire.

Full Throttle
06-08-06, 14:18
In the SP nightclubs, I was prepared to pay up to R$200.00. I don't like bargaining very much, especially when there is a language barrier. If I thought the girl was really hot, I didn't bargain at all. R$200.00 was my first and final offer. I know some of you are pissed at me for paying too much. Please keep your flames civil, and I already know the "you are ruining it for everybody else" argument.

Thanks for answering my other questions. From my experience, 200R is quite fair in the night club venues. I like the 200R or nothing strategy. Haggling for a sombrero or a blanket you don't need while waiting to cross the border from TJ is okay, fighting with a girl you want to love you dearly in a matter of minutes isn't always the best idea.

Now, some girls HAVE to test the 300-400R waters. In those cases, I usually don't even counter directly, I just tell them that's more than double what I'm comfortable paying. They either counter their own offer or leave. Either way, we didn't argue.

In LoveStory, I've paid 100 (each for a dupla), 150 3 times, 200 twice. All tln, or whatever all morning is. Frankly, I haven't picked the stunners. They've been young, cute, fun, energetic and in shape, but I'll leave the girls who only negotiate in dollars to you guys.

What other night clubs are you referring to?

FT

Jasss
06-08-06, 19:40
can anyone of you experience mongers give me advice or names of hotels in santos, sao paulo.

cheers

RexG
06-11-06, 04:52
What other night clubs are you referring to?
FT

For some reason, I have tried only the nightclubs in Sao Paulo that have rooms on site. These include Millenium, Bomboa and Bahamas. I started to go to Eu & Elas once, but changed my mind on the way. Went to Millenium instead. I have never tried Kilt or Love Story. Maybe next time.

Rex

Palmisano
06-15-06, 09:50
I will be in Brazil soon and make a short stop in Guarulhos airport. I'll arrive early in the morning and I will have minimum 7 hours (probably ~15) stop at the airport.
Is there anything close to monger that you can recommend? I don't think I'll be very successful with nightclubs at this time and I also don't want to drive very long.
The best would be a nice Hotel or Motel close to the airport with an escort girl. There I can relax, take a shower, get a massage and enjoy ~4-10 hours with the girl. Can somebody recommend something that is close to Guarulhos Airport?

Maybe there's also some kind of "Service-Provider" for such long stops, I guess I'm not the first one who doesn't want to wait for the connection flight alone. However, I couldn't find anything here so far :-( .

So if you have a Motel, good website with Motels or Hotels, escort site for Guarulhos and price infos, please post it to me.

Starfe
06-16-06, 01:13
I will be in Brazil soon and make a short stop in Guarulhos airport. I'll arrive early in the morning and I will have minimum 7 hours (probably ~15) stop at the airport.
Is there anything close to monger that you can recommend? I don't think I'll be very successful with nightclubs at this time and I also don't want to drive very long.
The best would be a nice Hotel or Motel close to the airport with an escort girl. There I can relax, take a shower, get a massage and enjoy ~4-10 hours with the girl. Can somebody recommend something that is close to Guarulhos Airport?

Maybe there's also some kind of "Service-Provider" for such long stops, I guess I'm not the first one who doesn't want to wait for the connection flight alone. However, I couldn't find anything here so far :-( .

So if you have a Motel, good website with Motels or Hotels, escort site for Guarulhos and price infos, please post it to me.

I have never seen a sure bet escort . They are at best hit or miss as to whether they will knock at your door. If you have the money( because you sure have the time ) take a cab to Francebel and grab 2 girls that are a sure thing. Or go to my favorite place http://www.thepalms.com.br/. 8's or better always.

An hour into the city an hour back to the airport leaves you plenty of time.

Starfe

Mauver
06-17-06, 20:45
Fellow comrades,

Arrived in SP yesterday. I am wondering if someone wants to hook up to explorer some of the night clubs\bars. I am a brazilian who live in the UK and every two years I travel to Brazil.

Rgds,

Mauver

Starfe
06-19-06, 19:34
Hey, what are the costs for this place, thepalms, the girls on the site look as if they are all supermodels! Dam they hot, will be in sampa shortly. Thanks for the advice!

157 real for 1 hour + tip.( if I remember ) It's a small place but they usually have 6 to 8 girls there all the time. I never paid more then 130 real for sex, so count backwards for less.

Dr Strangelove
06-20-06, 23:39
For how long will you be there?


Fellow comrades,

Arrived in SP yesterday. I am wondering if someone wants to hook up to explorer some of the night clubs\bars. I am a brazilian who live in the UK and every two years I travel to Brazil.

Rgds,

Mauver

Dr Strangelove
06-22-06, 00:00
Anybody in Sao Paulo End of July? Would be great to have somebody to explore the nighlife with.

Tommy America
06-25-06, 18:24
Just back from SP: found a new club named AEnchanter (pronounced like the French word Enchante') Almost right next to new Romanza. The owner is a young lady named Sylvia who was the original owner of Romanza before she sold it several years ago (i.e. before it became a rip-off place).

The new club is very nice: live music, great service, with a few rooms upstairs. Many of the girls are former Donna Caffe. No admission charge: best deal, as in other places, is to buy a bottle of scotch and leave it there for when you come.

I was there most days last week. Very good every time. Highly recommended.

Tommy America
06-28-06, 03:03
What about the girls???Good mix (IMHO). Mostly 6s to 9s. All extremely nice and friendly. Great way to spend the evening sharing a few drinks (and more).

Tommy America
06-29-06, 16:34
Is that a safe area around romanzia?Yes. It is generally a good area with many fine restaurants nearby.

Spazzio
07-01-06, 17:35
Hi,

I go ST this week , and my this is my first time in SP but not in Brazil .

Can some body give we short update aboute the scene in SP.

Clubs , disco for pro girls.

Nice escort ageny you can trust.

And if somebody have some good report about DUO girls togheter is will be nice.

And what is the average price level in SP know.

Andy have some news about cafe foto or some simular ?

Thank you

Member #4643
07-03-06, 04:02
Does anyone know of an escort in Sao Paulo who will do porno with her cutomers (for a fee of course)?

King Of Crunk
07-06-06, 01:06
Hello all,

I was wondering if anyone has any information about transportation from GRU International Airport in Sao Paulo to Centro besides taxis are there any buses, shuttles, trains and if so whats the schedules and prices and the safety issue when looking like a tourist in one of those things any input is appreciated.

Thanks.

Peter Disco 200
07-06-06, 15:39
Hi Crunk King,

Busses every half hour, from Gru to Centro. 16 Reais.

Buy ticket first, downstairs.

Vatel69
07-06-06, 18:51
Hello all,

I was wondering if anyone has any information about transportation from GRU International Airport in Sao Paulo to Centro besides taxis are there any buses, shuttles, trains and if so whats the schedules and prices and the safety issue when looking like a tourist in one of those things any input is appreciated.

Thanks.

It will depend on where you wanna go to. There is a bus that will take you to the downtown airport. In the past they used to have a bus that stopped at Praca da Republica and Paulista on the way to the other airport.

Member #4643
07-06-06, 22:03
I was sitting in my hotel room this afternoon and the levitra from this mornings encounter with my "namorada" was still kicking in. Around noon, I decided to cool things off with a quickie. I took a look back in the last few days of notes and discovered an inexpensive option called the Clinica Kin (http://www.clinicakin.com.br/). Even though a few other massage places had fancier surroundings, I have an expensive night date with two girls and I was not interested in big dollars.

The only down side to Clinica Kim is that it is 25 minutes by taxi from the Mercure in Jardins.

I arrived and was served a beer in a small waiting room. If you need privacy when shown a line up, this place is not for you. Meanwhile, the girls came in one at a time letting me know what a pleasure it was to meet me. The Madam at the desk also handed me a book of photos. Prior to leaving the hotel, I had spent 15 minutes doing my homework on WWW.GPGUIA.NET, and knew which girls to avoid (of the girls who are reviewed, only one got a bad review because she refuses to kiss/oral without/anal; as far as I could tell, this is on the menu for all of the other girls, except that anal is extra).

I chose a really beautiful girl named Luana, age 24, great body and beautiful face. I think most guys on this board would give her an 8 although I always withhold my own ratings until after the blow job. So, she is now a 10.

When we got up to the room, I was expecting a message with a happy ending. Nope. She immediately started DFK and after about 3 minutes politely requested that I also invite her friend Isa in the room (they are best friends, and made a pretty good show at lesbianism, but I doubt either is really bi). The cost for one girl was 130 BR and 180 BR for two so I caved in to this upselling. Isa joined us and before you knew it the two of them were affectionately using their mouths in ways that most guys never experience. Things progressed, I got myself covered and in about 15 minutes I was in need of some time to recuperate. At this point, they did oral on each other. I think Isa actually had an orgasm while Luana faked hers, but they were clearly having fun. After another 15 minutes of watching I joined in and killed the rest of the hour trying every position that I could think of. The possiblities with two girls make this exercise particularly interesting.

Total damage: 180 for the girls, 20 for the beers, 48 for round trip taxi. Of course the fun I had was priceless.

I have to admit that this was one more example about how the amount one spends never seems to translate into the quality of the fun. If I had been at Bahamas, and had spent 1000 BR (as I did my last time there), I would not have been any happier whatsoever. Clinica Kin is a relatively cheap way to have a lot of fun.

Bandy
07-11-06, 19:25
Just back from SP: found a new club named AEnchanter (pronounced like the French word Enchante') Almost right next to new Romanza. The owner is a young lady named Sylvia who was the original owner of Romanza before she sold it several years ago (i.e. before it became a rip-off place).

The new club is very nice: live music, great service, with a few rooms upstairs. Many of the girls are former Donna Caffe. No admission charge: best deal, as in other places, is to buy a bottle of scotch and leave it there for when you come.

I was there most days last week. Very good every time. Highly recommended.
Tommy America,

I had mentioned this place on my report of 4/25/06

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=457700&postcount=148

Could you please review the place in detail regarding prices, like how much the girls cost; take out options, if any; onsite prices; drink prices; etc etc. Because of time constraint, I could not actually visit the place but thought it certainly had the potential.

Bandy

Niouts
07-13-06, 23:28
Hello,

What about the street action in Sao Paulo?I didn't find anything on the forum. Where does it take place?

Thanks,

Niouts

Clomonger
07-15-06, 23:22
Just wanted to supplement Forest's fine report a few posts down.

This place can be hard to find, what with street names changing as you drive through SP. Even Map 24 gave some confusing information, and it can be a real challenge for Taxi drivers. In brief, from Avenida Roque Petroni Jr, you turn onto Rua Rondel. This street is only one block long, and it dead ends at Prf. Jose Marques Da Cruz, which is where Clinica Kin is located. As you head down Rua Rondel, you will see a large house number "235" on the cross street where it dead ends, which is the place. There are usually a few parking attendants around there, and a table with an umbrella out in front. But there is no sign, just the number 235 in big red letters.

Also, I experienced slightly different pricing. $120 for one girl, $160 for two, at least that was what was offered at the front desk. A local guy did some translating for me, and if you're reading this, thanks much! I also wasn't charged for the beer.

I had one session with Camilla and one with Sabrina (two different days). Both were great, despite the language barrier. Both happen to be enhanced, which isn't my preference, (Camilla's was done quite recently), but when they come out in the line-up, they're wearing (brief) clothes, so it's hard to tell. Anyway, a super experience, and regardless of which price you get, it's a very pleasant place, including the people who run it.

You pay on the way out. It appears that Credit Cards are accepted, although I preferred not to go that route!

Member #4643
07-20-06, 01:29
i don't want to get too deep into clinica kin, as i know there are at least a dozen other similar massage parlors/ ***** houses in sao paulo, but there is a blue tree hotel a few blocks nearby in novo brooklin.

has anyone been there? does it have high speed internet access? is it "girl friendly", etc? being in the congonhas area might be a great advantage for the working traveller- there are simply lots of places nearby for midday entertainment.

Bobo5
07-20-06, 06:28
i don't want to get too deep into clinica kin, as i know there are at least a dozen other similar massage parlors/ ***** houses in sao paulo, but there is a blue tree hotel a few blocks nearby in novo brooklin.

has anyone been there? does it have high speed internet access? is it "girl friendly", etc? being in the congonhas area might be a great advantage for the working traveller- there are simply lots of places nearby for midday entertainment.if you mean the blue tree mourumbi - yes it is girl friendly, yes it has high speed internet but i found it of a lower standard than other/newer blue tree htls. my roomm was small and a bit run down. hilton murumbi is another story, and another price!

Full Throttle
07-21-06, 13:24
I hope it was my reports way below that prompted the visits. They deserve the business.

There are dozens and dozens of massage places, but none has higher reviews than Kin.

The bus is only 2R each way and takes about 10 minutes longer.

I've never been charged for drinks. Either that's new or I have finally achieved VIP status somewhere in the world.



FT

Tommy America
07-23-06, 20:08
Tommy America,

I had mentioned this place on my report of 4/25/06

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=457700&postcount=148

Could you please review the place in detail regarding prices, like how much the girls cost; take out options, if any; onsite prices; drink prices; etc etc. Because of time constraint, I could not actually visit the place but thought it certainly had the potential.

BandySorry for the delay in responding, but I have been travelling.

Let's take your questions in order:

- "how much the girls cost": Price (while always negotiable) is similar to what I saw at Donna Caffe and Movie Cafe. "Quotes" begin at 400 reals and drops quickly. Both times I met young ladies there, I paid 300 reals --- once for all-night take-out and once for on-site.

- "take out options, if any": There did not seem to be any "take-out" charge (again, just like was the case at Donna and Movie).

- "onsite prices": There are 3 on-site rooms. Two of them have large king-size beds in them. The third has an absolutely huge bed that (so they tell me) can accomodate 5 couples easily. I spent some time in one of the smaller rooms with a young lady one evening. The only charge appeared to be what I negotiated directly with that young lady. There did not appear to be a separate charge for "on-site". I do not know for sure if that is "standard policy" or not --- perhaps I was just lucky that night!

- "drink prices": I find drink prices to be about the same as at most similar clubs. The best bet appears to be to buy your own bottle and keep it there. I purchased the "standard bottle of Johnny Walker Red" for about 200 reals (although I heard higher prices quoted sometimes). There is no time limit to how long they will keep/maintain the bottle for you. After you have a bottle, all you pay for are ice and set-ups (soda water, etc.). A full night drinking from an already purchased bottle might cost 30 reals tops including tip for the waiter. When girls drink from your bottle, there does not appear to be any separate or additional charge.

Again, as I said earlier, I spent 4 nights straight there last time I was in Sao Paulo. I found the girls to be very gracious and attractive. Both the owner and staff were very friendly and accomodating. The live music was very good too.

Highly recommended.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.

Almotu
07-24-06, 03:50
I posted in the Travel Plans area already but here goes . . . I will be in Sao Paulo for about 1 week beginning August 8th. (then 1 week in Rio) Probably will be staying at Comfort Hotel Downtown*on Rua Araujo. If any guys will be in town, maybe we can hang and share some costs. (ie. taxis, etc)

I am also interested to know if anyone know about inexpensive managed apartments for rent. Probably not much difference in price versus the aparthotels or hotels (since Sao Paulo is relatively cheap compared to Rio)
Maybe someone knows of a huge Playboy mansion type place that rent out rooms or short time hotels like Vips that can hold mini orgies. Would be an eye-opener to check out.

Much thanks,
Almotu

King Of Crunk
07-24-06, 21:32
I posted in the Travel Plans area already but here goes . . . I will be in Sao Paulo for about 1 week beginning August 8th. (then 1 week in Rio) Probably will be staying at Comfort Hotel Downtown*on Rua Araujo. If any guys will be in town, maybe we can hang and share some costs. (ie. taxis, etc)

I am also interested to know if anyone know about inexpensive managed apartments for rent. Probably not much difference in price versus the aparthotels or hotels (since Sao Paulo is relatively cheap compared to Rio)

Maybe someone knows of a huge Playboy mansion type place that rent out rooms or short time hotels like Vips that can hold mini orgies. Would be an eye-opener to check out.

Much thanks,

AlmotuYo man I will also be down there for the date posted above definately down to share cost for taxis Sao Paulo is a huge city 3rd largest in the world and I'm not sure where everything is at, I'm staying in downtown also so get at me if your into the night club scene too because I'm trying to meet regular girls and ho's too.. peace

Brugal8
07-25-06, 14:46
Got the info from a very good source that the famous club w reopened his doors in the beginning of this year.

My source also tells me they a lot of girls from rio grande do sul, this state is where the most beautiful women in brazil come from.

I hope the mongers located in sao paulo can go and check it out.

Genghis Khan
07-27-06, 09:28
Got the info from a very good source that the famous club w reopened his doors in the beginning of this year.

My source also tells me they a lot of girls from rio grande do sul, this state is where the most beautiful women in brazil come from.

I hope the mongers located in sao paulo can go and check it out.

Brugal8,

Its all true. I was there in April. The old owner Beto has reopened.

GK

Harry58
07-27-06, 12:16
Brugal8,

Its all true. I was there in April. The old owner Beto has reopened.

GKHi GK,

I'll be in SP on 10th August could you give me the adress of this club?

Many tks,

Harry

Genghis Khan
07-28-06, 07:47
Hi GK,

I'll be in SP on 10th August could you give me the adress of this club?

Many tks,

Harry

Rua Alvorada 550, Vila Olympia.

Have fun,
GK

Drc037
07-29-06, 00:06
Hey,

A quick question. I'm going to be in Sao Paulo for the day, but that day happens to be a Sunday. I would like to do a clinic but it looks like they are closed on Sunday, and I won't have time for a nightclub. Any suggestions would be appreciated.


Thanks

Almotu
07-29-06, 02:17
I usually have a few mobile numbers to try by the time Sunday rolls around. If you are going to be there only for 1 day during the day, I would keep your expectations low so when something happens you'll be pleasantly surprised.

Your options are . . . a) clinicas by the airport that might cater to the traveller and therefore open on Sundays (personally I don't know one)
b) try trolling Rua Augusta and Kilt Show area. Those clubs will be open Sunday night but might be open by 4 or 5pm so you can still partake but don't expect the best quality.
c) the prives or casas - I would like to try this myself, never been to one. Do a search in this forum and you'll find a lot of addresses - I can think of Chingon doing a big write-up several months ago.
d) call the website escorts . . . SexDreams.com.br, MClass.com.br, Chantily.com.br, etc. YMMV.

Good Luck, and if possible just change your plans to stay a couple of more days = at least Sun thru Wed.

Genghis Khan
07-29-06, 08:21
Hey,

A quick question. I'm going to be in Sao Paulo for the day, but that day happens to be a Sunday. I would like to do a clinic but it looks like they are closed on Sunday, and I won't have time for a nightclub. Any suggestions would be appreciated.


Thanks

Bahamas and Kilt are open.

GK

Drc037
07-29-06, 16:44
Thanks for the info guys; if anyone is around SP on Aug. 20th, PM me & maybe we could hook up

Java Man
07-29-06, 20:00
not me, i didn't do it...at least i dont think so...lol
my reports are mainly about Rio. i have limited knowledge about SP, having only visitied this immense city once.

Danield
08-01-06, 14:19
Hi Guys! I'm new to the site but not to Brazil! My favourite place in SP is Bahamas.

Also you guys should try the club Azucar where you can find pro's and semi-pro's. It's quite fun.

I will be in SP for the next couple of weeks (work & Play). If anyone is around please PM me and we can get a couple of beers. The good thing is that I do speak Portuguese and that my friends, always helps.

Cheers

Almotu
08-01-06, 18:59
I made a mistake, it was Ceylon1 who made the write up on the prives.

Almotu
08-01-06, 19:08
Danield, I will definitely PM you when I get in. Having been away for so long I wanted to get some current info (preferably, less than a month old - even better if from someone there NOW) on some of my past spots (quality & quantity of the talent)

Big Ben
Vagao
Clinica Antares
Cafe Gauguin
Carmenssita's
Bomboa
Clinica Vison

never been but was always curious
Connection Night Club
Ravena's
Mirunas 644
Clinica My Way
Musas

Thanks gentleman, hope to report back when I can.

Rdy Two Go
08-03-06, 20:00
Does anyone know what appened to the Hilton on Ipiranga? Did it chnge names? Any contact info.

Thanks for any help

Clavote
08-03-06, 21:23
I have been reading these threads and I have nothing but gratitude for everyone posting this great information.

I am currently in Sao Palo in Murumbi and I am staying at the Hilton. It's very nice and I am a repeat visitor here.

I would love for anyone to give me some guidance. Would you go to a club like Bomboa (been there before and had a good time), do a Clinica or maybe get a girl privately for the weekend?

My portuguese is not great, but I can get by quite well. I am looking for something local to Murumbi.

Your suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Clavote
08-04-06, 00:00
That must have been a while ago. The only Hilton property in SP is the Morumbi Hilton. And it's a really good one!


Does anyone know what appened to the Hilton on Ipiranga? Did it chnge names? Any contact info.

Thanks for any help

Clomonger
08-04-06, 02:40
[QUOTE=Clavote]
Your suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


It depends a lot on your taste.

From the Murumbi Hilton, You're a 10-minute taxi ride to Clinica Kin. That would be my choice for an afternoon's enjoyment: One hour/one girl for 120 rs, one hour/2 girls for 160. Plus if you'd like a beer or two, no charge for that. You can see the lineup and select what might appeal to you.

Clubs are going to be more expensive and likely the action will be better a little later in the evening. I need my beauty sleep!

Escorts seem to be risky: What you see may not be what you get. The non-pro alternative may take more time to develop a GFE than you have to spend.

Clinicas seem to provide high quality without a huge expenditure, and no potential hassles with hotel security (which may or may not be an issue with the Hilton; I didn't stay there, but at another hotel in the same complex).

The ladies of Clinica Kin get consistently high reviews, as does the establishment itself.

Again, your preferences should be the guide. But whatever your choice, your feedback here would be appreciated!

Full Throttle
08-06-06, 03:57
I was doing a little impromptu research for a monger today. Of the reviews on a local board, Clinica Kin girls provided BBBJ 480 out of 550 times (roughly). Another high profile clinic that gets generally favorable reviews revealed that only 75 of 450 girls gave the BBBJ.

As soon as I find a clinic with a better ratio for positive experiences, BBBJ vs. CBJ, anal and DFK, I'll let you know. Meanwhile, where's the Sto. Amarro bus 577?

For the weekender: All the clinicas are closed Sunday that I've found. Not sure about Francebel.

FT

Stormalong
08-06-06, 23:51
I visited Clinca Kin yesterday (Saturday). It was a bit difficult for the taxi driver to find, but I had complete directions for him.

Gloria (the Manageress) was extremely kind and helpful, although english was not in the cards. After bringing me a drink, I was presented with all the available ladies. I was intrigued by both Camilla and Luana, so I decided to arrange for both at a price of R$160.

The one-hour session was outstanding. Both ladies are beautiful and enthusiastic. Luana, expecially, was a breath of fresh air. BBBJ is the standard fare to get things going. It was certainly a unigue experience to watch them both competing for "Jr", and then to watch them playing with each other.

I strongly recommend this Clinica, You will not be disappointed.

By the way, taxi fare from my hotel in Jardins, was about R$30 each way and took about 30 mins.

J Wadd
08-07-06, 03:23
Check out Rua Augusta for Sunday action. Most clubs are closed, but a few are open (try, also, street that Kilt is on).

It's been a long time since I posted, bros. Got some pics to develop and post -- they're good. Probably won't be down Brasil-way for (yet) another year. : (
Still Planning on moving there, though. Keep the faith!

Happy Hunting,
JWadd

Almotu
08-07-06, 06:00
Will arrive on a Tuesday. Can anyone suggest when is the best time to check out Rua Augusta? Besides Clinica Kin, which other massage parlour is worth going to?

Thank you all.

Full Throttle
08-07-06, 12:32
Many of the establishments open around 5PM, but I wouldn't bother until 10pm at the very earliest.

Regarding Kin, a couple of things I should mention. Typically, I'm able to go there early afternoon. The ratio of customers to girls is perfect. There are just enough patrons to keep a healthy flow, but 75-90% of the talent is available. Once, I arrived around 7PM. Totally different. Too many guests.

Also, to avoid the 30R taxi each way, consider the Sto. Amarro bus that goes down Paulista Ave. Get off at the Enrique Petroni Jr. stop (about 30 minutes vs. 20 in a taxi). The return bus says "Term Princesa Isabel." Net savings 56R. I've made the walk, also. Around 8 miles is my guess, but mostly down hill. When you get to Ibiripuera Park, you're about 35% of the way. So far, my bus hasn't been blown up, but YMMV.

Regarding other clinicas, I find the ratio of BBBJ vs. CBJ as reported on the local forum most helpful. It's not just the BBBJ itself that is important, it is the gage for how wild the overall event will be. I think it is indicative of how much they will enjoy DATY, resistance to fingers, DFK, etc. So, based on that, here are some ratios:

BBBJ:CBJ
The Palms 80:60
Berrini (across the street from Kin) 37:299
Allure 134:124
Abbobora (been there, nice place) 156:129
Francebel (if I could figure out pricing, I'd try)
28:58
Aneesh (Pompei) 244:48
Four Stations (Santa Cruz) 126:229
Antares (beautiful girls) 171:459
Cherry Clinic 866:676
Pyramid 271:309
Kin 479:84
Brookylin 76:559

(continued)



FT

King Of Crunk
08-08-06, 03:15
Yo I'm just writing here to see if there are any cats that are gonna be in Sao Paulo during August 11-14 see if you down to hit the night clubs or monger spots and share intel this is my 1st time in Sao Paulo and i dont know much so if you down then holla at me.

Member #4643
08-08-06, 22:48
i spent the morning working in my hotel room, and when my neck got stiff, i decided that it was time to get out and see the world.

my original intentions were to try a new clinica, but other than clinica kin, they all struck me as either too expensive, or the girls were simply a little to into "covers" for my taste. i spent 30 minutes perusing through www.gpguia.net when i came across a little girl named michelle. michelle had one solitary review, but it was extraordinary. in the spirit of this web site, i decided to take a risk and meet michelle.

michelle lives with [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) (both can be seen at http://www.erosguide.com.br/) . i gave her a call, and a meeting was scheduled at her small but very nice apartment in jardins, about a 30 minute walk from the mercure jardins. she quoted me $200br, which i accepted knowing that this was $50br more than the brazilian price (according to her review). however, my meeting with her was close to two and a half hours.

michelle turned out to be tiny: about 5' 1", 110 pounds. she has a very pretty face and beautifully colored eyes, which are well documented on erosguide web site. her breasts are small, and she does not have a brazilian bunda. in short, she was my ideal woman (although i might have added an inch or two of breasts).

she is a veterinary student, who is quite easy to talk with. more important than her conversational skills were her skills in bed- she got very high marks from me. she is a terrific kisser, and although her bbbj had a tiny bit of teeth, i kind of got into her telling me repeatedly that she wanted me to come in her mouth (i obliged her on two occasions). she was very tight, and was willing to do anal (i don't do anal with girls who aren't enthusiastic. i don't get off on seeing their pain. chacun a son gout). she does all of the requisite positions with gusto.

overall, this girl could be pulling in $350+ an hour in the states with her incredible attitude, very good looks and excellent skills. she gets a strong recommendation from me, which is why i am writing this report.

incidentally, michelle lives with [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901), whom i saw on my way in (they share the room for business and sleep together at nights. sadly, they are not lovers. in fact, michelle says she has never kissed a woman). [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) is quite different from her photos- bigger breasts, darker skin. i thought she looked pretty hot, but i rarely take on a girl with no reviews whatsoever.

Surferr3
08-09-06, 06:29
Great report Forest.

Will have to look that one up on next visit. Thanks for the share.

Almotu
08-09-06, 06:39
August 8, 2006 = just wanted to state some brief facts.
Arrival on Continental was pretty much on time (8:50am) however the line at passport control was horrendous. No photo or fingerprint but as usual Brazilian passport holders got breezed through while foreigners including yours truly waited close to 1 hour before able to retrieve my lugguage! This is made worse because of many incoming flights that arrive at that time. I saw passengers from the AA flights from JFK and MIA, there was a DELTA flight and I was pretty sure of a VARIG one besides our CONTINENTAL flight from EWR.

If you travel light and stay at the major landmark hotels nearby Av Paulista, try the Airport Bus Service which has a route that does drop offs at the Parque Republica, the cheaper hotels around Augusta, then the Blue Tree Paulista, Crowne Plaza, Hotel Ibis, the Renaissance, Gran Melia Mofarrej, the Intercontinental, etc. The Mercure is pretty close to the Renaissance so you could probably walk or they might even stop there. ONLY $R24.00 in a luxury air-conditioned bus with reclining seats. The schedule is kind of sparse, you'd be lucky to make the 9:30am. I made the 10:40am and the next one runs at 12noon.

I missed my old Cambio place which used to be on the 2nd floor in an office building on Av Paulista near the Consolacao metro station. They used to give the best rates on Paulista and would add a few points for large exchanges ($500+) Alas they don't seem to be in business anymore (at least not in that same building) So I had to go all the way almost to the end of the ave and made my exchange at SHOPPING PAULISTA = $R2.15 to the dollar today. (sigh)

Full Throttle
08-10-06, 19:12
If you travel light and stay at the major landmark hotels nearby Av Paulista, try the Airport Bus Service ... ONLY $R24.00 in a luxury air-conditioned bus with reclining seats.

I agree 100%. More comfortable than a taxi and safer unless you get blown up.



I missed my old Cambio place which used to be on the 2nd floor in an office building on Av Paulista near the Consolacao metro station.

Are you referring to the one in the building on the west side of the street between Frecaneica and Augusta? If so, bummer. If not, it's practically an extension of the crosswalk, between the two coffee shops, down the hall and to the left.

Polvo
08-10-06, 19:32
imichelle lives with [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901). michelle turned out to be tiny: about 5' 1", 110 pounds.forest,

great review and good writing! can you clarify for me please, as i have a sp trip coming up in november, was that michele matos rather than michele silk?

thanks

polvo

Sui Generis
08-10-06, 23:12
Forest,

Great review and good writing! Can you clarify for me please, as I have a SP trip coming up in November, was that Michele Matos rather than Michele Silk?

Thanks

Polvo

Polvo,

I think it's probably Michele Matos because the description of Michele Silk (1m75, which is 5'8'') doesn't fit with the description given by Forest. Michele Matos is 1m65 (but it's still a little bit taller than 5'1'')

However, there is still something disturbing. In fact, there is only one report (on the Brazilian Forum) of that Michele Matos but it is a pisada na bola (you go to visit the girl a her place and when you arrive there she doesn't want to attend you anymore).

There is a Michele that partly fits the description of the mysterious Michele. It's Michele Moraes: she is definitely 5'1''. The only problem is that she lives on Miruna Av, near the Ibirapuera Shopping Center, in Moema.

I'll be also in São Paulo in November. If you need some help there, just PM me.

Bambino
08-14-06, 05:40
Hey guys,

I'm gearing up for the Nov. trip, and came up with a question.

Does anyone have experience with meeting a "keeper" at a Clinica, and successfully getting her to come over to the Hotel some other time?

Fats
08-14-06, 08:00
there are three michelles on the erosguide site posted by forest. michelle with no last name is listed as 1.55m which is right about 5'1''

http://www.erosguide.com.br/michelle/michelle_free.htm



the following is a google translation of a brazilian review of her:


michelle (erosguide) 7405-2477 - r$150,00/hour and stocking with discounting


i marked in the eve and i confirmed one hour before. i cried and it lowered of 200,00 for 150,00. she takes care of in flat grand i know there what, in the leôncio de carvalho 201 almost with al. saints between brigadier general and rafael de barros. i did not like to make fiche to go up, but as the attendance of the michelle was good and of the recepcionista also without problems. flat of expensive, luxurious, the spacious one with a fenomenal bathtub. i was the foot then i do not know of parking that has in the place this everybody knows. together with it was gp [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) 8339-2811, that she left quickly with plus another girl. in the end of the program it bound “to inform” the hour, but she did not arrive to confuse, for the the opposite goes for wish list.

style: ninfeta agile namoradinha so great p
biotipo: colored person of 20anos, 49kg, ring-shaped hair, 80x60x90 with 1,55m, green eyes, skin lisíssima and browner than the photo
body: corpinho de ninfeta magrinha
chests: peitinhos de adolescent ninfetinha
bunda: teeny, lindinha, proper for light filling
vaginal: of course lubricated, classic delicate clitoris, perfect rósea color, piscante, humid grotto
felatio: molhadérrimo until the end, adores one pricks, is gulosa
cunilingus: gostoso, saborosíssima adored to be absorbed
it enjoyed: yes, as much that we try the anal
anal: so pressed that i did not obtain to penetrate it, however the girl if made use with love for the adventure
similarity with the photo: 55% compensated when putting
palavrão: it speaks if stimulated and she is one gracinha saying “fulls mine buceta of porra”

he counted that he was beginning of two weeks, of the interior, university student. legal, likeable papo, educated, was spontaneous and involving. we try a kama-sutras, 69, of four (i pulled hair and i asked who ordered - it was delirious), of front, in the bed, in the bathtub, i absorbed in the total 30minutos therefore the mine is very gostosa in this question, knows to pompoar, but still it is learning. although to be namoradinha it does not make love, same climb. i enjoyed the first one in boquinha during the bath and later that it already had enjoyed in the first one and second time, i did not obtain to enjoy mine second. tired and all sweated it it gave a memorable key to me of buceta, but i fell down and i rested, why the business is not summarized to one day alone. i come back but i ask for 200,00 table discounting therefore is and this price not coaduna with the reality of brazil.
fuck 10, bitotipo 8, photos 5,5, average 8,0 with louvor

Polvo
08-14-06, 13:27
There are three Michelles on the Erosguide site posted by Forest. Michelle with no last name is listed as 1.55m which is right about 5'1''
Fats,

Thanks for clearing this up! (I would have sworn that when I checked there were only two listed!!) It does seem to fit with Forest's description and certainly one to remember.

Regards,

Polvo

SkmSteve
08-15-06, 11:37
I will be in SP in Sept. Polvo Does your Michelle speak English, or dose she have an email Address?



http://www.erosguide.com.br/Michelle/Michelle_free.htm

Thanks in Advance Steve.

Kostaboda
08-15-06, 12:15
Hi guys,

I came up with a question.

Does the 120-150 BR $ fee really means one hour or only one pop ? In other words are you allowed a second pop if your time is not finished (as in the Rio thermas +++) ?

Thanks,

Kosta

Almotu
08-16-06, 13:37
I think it depends on the Clinica as in Rio it depends on the Terma (I believe more than one pop is allowed at a place like 4x4 but not at Centaurus) So comparably would be saying that it might OK at Antares, Cherry & Kin but not alright at FranceBel. Secondly, it depends on the girl. If they are into you, you might get a break. I have had girls that say "bye bye" right after the pop and then I had girls that gave me extra minutes to finish and did not tell the management.

I can't confirm this on a personal level because it takes me usually the full session (40-60mins) to do one pop - I don't like to be rushed. And takes me a while to recoup.

Unfortunately, I did not partake in any Clinica activities last week when I was in Sao Paulo. Did see the line up at Clinica Kin and sadly most of the talent there did not live up to the photos on their site.

Pluto2
08-16-06, 21:00
WWW.terracojardins.com

I was doing a little window shopping and noticed this place, I know there are plenty of clinicas not on our site, but this one caught my eye.

If I were in town, I would do a little more research and head over to meet Thais.

Genghis Khan
08-16-06, 21:10
WWW.terracojardins.com

I was doing a little window shopping and noticed this place, I know there are plenty of clinicas not on our site, but this one caught my eye.

If I were in town, I would do a little more research and head over to meet Thais.

It should be www.terracojardins.com.br

GK

Polvo
08-16-06, 21:23
Polvo Does your Michelle speak English, or dose she have an email Address?I do not have her e-mail address and her linguistic skills are marginal - although she does not talk when her mouth is full. Always a good sign.

If you want English - then Gabriela is OK. Devastating eyes!!

http://www.erosguide.com.br/Gabriela/Gabriela_free.htm

Polvo

SwissGentleman
08-16-06, 22:04
Hello,

I am new here will trave to sao paolo in September and looking for advice.

On the net I have found the following nice loking girls:

Luka
http://www.gatadelivery.com/pagina2luka.html

and

Eduarda Lima
http://www.vitrinebook.net/fotos.php?t=acomp&id=165

Who can tell me something about them? And what is the best way to spend a good night, I don't have more in SP? Any other advise of whom to hire for a night?

Thak you for your information

SwissGentleman
08-16-06, 22:30
Hello,

I will be in Sao Paulo for one night in September, what should I do what is a fair prize for a whole night?

I contacted girls from the US and they ask 800R$, isnt that too much? Who can help me maybe as guide?

Regards

Pluto2
08-17-06, 03:04
It really depends on what you are looking for, the range in SP is as big or bigger than any place that I have been.

Do you know where you are staying?

How much do you want to spend?

Do you like the club scene with take out or eat in? Budget 300-400R for the evening and two hours at the hotel

Do you like the clean and orderly massage parlor (clinica) type places? Budget 100-150R for 1-1.5hrs

Do you like the sea port atmosphere that the older clubs on the R. Augusta strip have? Budget 80-100 a pop with beer

Do you want to go somewhere nice for dinner before or after? SP has great resturants

Do you like the German FKK style places with public sex and multiple garotas over a few hours.

How many garotas do you want to pop in one day? Some places offer 1R per minute and have an army on the premesis.

For some of the guys, anal is must? One third of the garotas offer anal some want a premium for it. Oral with or without depends on the garota, CIM depends on the garota, F is always with a condom. Ask in advance and get clear answers.

At the clinicas, you can search the web sites and reserve them days in advance for your date and time. The prices run around 120R for an hour and if you have the stamina, some of these places have 18 girls on the floor half of whom (always have trouble with usage on this one) are very doable. Rovnak and others have done some pretty good reviews. Look in the SP directory section for lots of links and some global reviews.

If the girls know you are in town for one day, that is how you will be treated. If they beleive you will be in town regularly and are staying for a couple of weeks this time, you will get better service and attitude.

At the clubs and clinicas, if the garota does not speak English, she will find someone that does. Spanish works too.



SP has it all and more.

SwissGentleman
08-17-06, 05:06
Thank you for your answer.

What I am looking for is a wonderful girl in all respects for a wonderful night. Best she should come to the hotel, but we would go out first and then she would stay for the rest of the night. I have included before two links, do you know about these girls? I do not want to bargain about the price, as it is one night, I don't care about +/- 200r$ if the experience is worth it.


It really depends on what you are looking for, the range in SP is as big or bigger than any place that I have been.

Do you know where you are staying?

How much do you want to spend?

Do you like the club scene with take out or eat in? Budget 300-400R for the evening and two hours at the hotel

Do you like the clean and orderly massage parlor (clinica) type places? Budget 100-150R for 1-1.5hrs

Do you like the sea port atmosphere that the older clubs on the R. Augusta strip have? Budget 80-100 a pop with beer

Do you want to go somewhere nice for dinner before or after? SP has great resturants

Do you like the German FKK style places with public sex and multiple garotas over a few hours.

How many garotas do you want to pop in one day? Some places offer 1R per minute and have an army on the premesis.

For some of the guys, anal is must? One third of the garotas offer anal some want a premium for it. Oral with or without depends on the garota, CIM depends on the garota, F is always with a condom. Ask in advance and get clear answers.

At the clinicas, you can search the web sites and reserve them days in advance for your date and time. The prices run around 120R for an hour and if you have the stamina, some of these places have 18 girls on the floor half of whom (always have trouble with usage on this one) are very doable. Rovnak and others have done some pretty good reviews. Look in the SP directory section for lots of links and some global reviews.

If the girls know you are in town for one day, that is how you will be treated. If they beleive you will be in town regularly and are staying for a couple of weeks this time, you will get better service and attitude.

At the clubs and clinicas, if the garota does not speak English, she will find someone that does. Spanish works too.



SP has it all and more.

Argio
08-17-06, 12:45
I'll be headed to SP in early September. Is there a girl-friendly hotel I can stay at around $100 / night with decent quality? Thanks!

Sui Generis
08-17-06, 16:20
Hello,

I am new here will trave to sao paolo in September and looking for advice.

On the net I have found the following nice loking girls:

Luka
http://www.gatadelivery.com/pagina2luka.html

and

Eduarda Lima
http://www.vitrinebook.net/fotos.php?t=acomp&id=165

Who can tell me something about them? And what is the best way to spend a good night, I don't have more in SP? Any other advise of whom to hire for a night?

Thak you for your information


These sites are unreliable, like most «agências» in Brazil. Beware, because most of the models that are supposedly advertised on these sites are, in fact, European or American models. There's no comparison with what you will get at your door. Yeaks!

I have no clue whatsoever to what is a fair price for a TNL in São Paulo. Last year I had two TNL for 150R$ (plus a taxi fare for the girl). I know however that it is an exception and that I was very lucky.

I checked the site of a very respected GDP in São Paulo, Elektra Stocklos, and her rate for the night is 400$US, which is more or less 800R$, if i am not wrong.

She speaks English and I had a very satisfying session with her last year, in September. I know however that she is very «picky» because she selects her clients. Another problem is that she prefers to have clients that are posters on the GP Guia (which I am). But as her site is intended to an international clientele (the site is relatively new, I guess) I think you can try to book her.

http://elektra-stocklos.rare-escort.com/inside.php

God luck and happy mongering.

Full Throttle
08-17-06, 16:44
Thank you for your answer.

What I am looking for is a wonderful girl in all respects for a wonderful night. Best she should come to the hotel, but we would go out first and then she would stay for the rest of the night. I have included before two links, do you know about these girls? I do not want to bargain about the price, as it is one night, I don't care about +/- 200r$ if the experience is worth it.


Great, we have another GK on our hands! Read his posts and you will have everything you need. He chooses top girls from top agencies and spends the evening and the night with them. Sounds great, but out of my price range.

FT

SwissGentleman
08-17-06, 16:49
Great, we have another GK on our hands! Read his posts and you will have everything you need. He chooses top girls from top agencies and spends the evening and the night with them. Sounds great, but out of my price range.

FTHi,

Thanks for the comments.

You see, when you have only one night to spend, you would have rather things organised before instead of spending hours and money for the search.

However I do not want to ruin the market, so this is the reason why I am looking for advice here

What is GK? I am absolutely new here

Genghis Khan
08-17-06, 21:34
Great, we have another GK on our hands!
FT

What the hell do you mean by that??????

GK

Cunnilinguist
08-17-06, 22:47
Hi,

Thanks for the comments.

You see, when you have only one night to spend, you would have rather things organised before instead of spending hours and money for the search.

However I do not want to ruin the market, so this is the reason why I am looking for advice here

What is GK? I am absolutely new hereGK stands for “Genghis Khan” an esteemed member of our board, who is well known for his “legendary” spending on Celebrity and TOP escorts (USD$500 - $1,500+ per woman). I think he will have some pretty good info to share if you direct the question to him.

Please don’t be worried about “ruining the market” (thank you for your concern) Sao Paolo is a city of 12 million+ people, your 1 night of sexual bliss at USD$100 or 1,000 won’t make a difference.

Concentrate on finding the right lady for the night, you’re doing the right thing in doing your research before you get there being that your time will be very limited and hence precious. You may also want consider having a couple of backup ladies just “in case”.

There is a great site gpguia.net, with reviews of sex providers throughout Brazil, look for the Sao Paolo thread. Take the name of a girl you’re interested in run it through their search feature and the reviews will pop-up.

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://www.gpguia.net/phpbb2/index.php&langpair=pt%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off

This link is to an English translated site (not great but it helps.).

Best of luck to ya.

The CunningLinguist

Kostaboda
08-17-06, 22:55
Hi guys,

Based on 2 nice reviews on this site, I decided to visit Eu & Elas 2 nights ago (obviously the only Therma in Sao Paulo).

You pay an entry fee of 79 Br$ (one of the guys at the front desk is a bastard, don't pay attention to him) which allows you two free drinks (since I chose beer I don't know if they allow caipinrinha or other cocktails). You enter the house through the bar area and can either first have a drink and enjoy the buffet or go directly upstairs to undress and use the shower + sauna. The buffet is nothing special as mentionned previously by a fellow monger, and mainly consists of slice of cheese ...

Now, this was a really special experience since there was a strike of metro on that day so that we were only 3 customers (and one of the two others left soon after I arrived) for 7 garotas. Such a limited company never happened to me in Rio.
However I was lucky enough since the I would rate the garotas 5, 5, 6, 6, 7, 7, 8 (and I am really picky).

The 8 (Duda, caucasian, nice model face) came to me while I was eating and complemented me on my perfume. Nice attitude. Absolutely not pushy. Nice brazilian butt but enhanced breasts which is not really my type. Moreover I wanted to enjoy so I declined her proposal.

I checked the facilities to discover a TV room, a shower room and a little sauna (nothing special). While on my way back to the bar area, I discovered a little salon with a TV playing a porn movie and one of the 7 (Claudia, 24, 5'7'', mulatta, nice face, nice butt) doing a slow BBBJ to the only other guy, which instantly gave me a hard-on . So I decided to enter the room (normally not my style !). Unfortunately, it turned out that the guy was rather shy and so they left a few seconds after.
I watched the movie for a while and went back to the bar (plenty of eyes contacts and chit chat with the girls). After 20', I decided to venture upstairs to discover the guy and Claudia both nude and obviously at the end of their session. Claudia immediately waved at me discretly.

I headed back to the porn TV salon and soon after she joined.

She turn out to be a real sweet girl with a nice personnality. So we had a nice conversation. She told me the other guy finally felt guilty because of his wife and only settled on a massage. So she was ready for a full session.

We cuddled with a lot of DFK and breasts and pussy touching (she was so wet ...). She soon took care of my little brother and did what I expected i.e. an open-air fellatio (first time in my life ...)

Then came the time for negociation. Before I had asked if she was "cumpleta" and the answer was "yes". So my offer was 100 Br$ for a one hour session including anal. She was OK for the price and time but not for anal. She wanted 200 but immediatly discounted to 150. I did not move from my initial offer which she wasn't too long to happily accept and we finally settled to 100 agreeing that only one pop would be in her butt. (I had made sure to obtain two pops during my one hour time).

Claudia asked me if I prefered the open-air bed (free) or one of the private (40 Br$)

I swear I am not a cheap bastard and the is only the perspective of the unknown experience that made me chose the first option. Also it was about midnight and this assistance rather limited, as I mentionned above, so I decided to have a go and try the experience of the open-air bed.

Claudia proudly showed me a dildo saying that she had to prepare herself. However a lot of French kissing and cuddling ultimately made this unecessary and I entered her spectacular mulatta ass which I fucked with passion.

Shower and a nice back massage during 20' while chatting about her childhood.
Then we kissed again and I was ready for another session during which she did DFK + a slow BBBJ to which being a gentleman I responded by DATY (nice pink pussy, nice smell).

I fuck her (covered) about 30' to reach my time and exploded in her pussy.

However this was still to quick for this safada !!! and something then happened that I had never experienced : she tall me she needs to make love or masturbate 4 times a day and that she wanted to come right now (the guys taking care of the towels was waiting for us since it was already 1:10 and the house normally closes at 1:00 am)

She ask for my help in grabbing her tits while she started masturbating like hell, telling me she was thinking of me when I was fucking her butt.

After a couple of minutes, she suddenly cried and collapsed in a spectacular orgasm.
Now guys I have had something like 500 providers in my life but I have never encountered such a safada ! I could not believe it and had to laugh so much ...

Another shower, I tipped her 10 Br$ and I was ready to leave (1:20 am).

Claudia gave me her phone number since I have read on that forum that week ends can be though in SP with most of the clinicas closed and anticipate to bring a girl to my hotel room on sunday. (By the way Claudia mentionned that there are currently a lot of clinicas and so many girls everywhere that some days most of the garotas have no client at all.)

Definitely a recommended place (photos unfortunately prohibited).

I hope you enjoyed the report.

Kosta

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Full Throttle
08-18-06, 00:10
Oh, good, have you both right together...

Now Swiss, read all of GK's reports. He doesn't monger every week like some of us have to, so, when he does, he goes all out. Based on your question, GK's evenings are the prototype for what you seek: GFE's that include drinks, sometimes dinner, all-night affairs, and hassle-free, reliable bookings from top-notch services.

Hope that answers both of your questions.

FT

Pluto2
08-18-06, 04:10
Swiss,

IMHO you are over reaching.

As in life, one mans dream boat may be another mans nightmare. Your chances of having a great all nighter with a call girl that you don’t know are near zero, chemistry is chemistry and acting will not carry a garota (or you) for 12 hours. Assuming it is the same girl in the photo, and untouched for that big scar from the emergency operation.

My suggestion is to go to one of the high end clubs like Bamboa or We and see if you can click with one of the garotas. At Bamboa or some of the other top clubs like Gogaun you can probably score TLN for 400-500R for a top girl. The clubs don't get going until 10 PM. There are a lot of postings on this board for the clubs that you should read.

On the other hand, if you are arriving early in the day, you could pop at a clinica, catch a great dinner solo or with one of the guys from the board then head off to one of the clubs to see if something roasts your potato. Most of the guys on the board like to run with partners and we all have to eat.

Good hunting.

If it were me, and I wanted to drop 800R in one day; I would check into a top clinica at opening and negotiate 7-8 girls for one hour each with the front desk, I'm sure they would throw in a sandwich and a beer for you when you come up for air.


Thank you for your answer.

What I am looking for is a wonderful girl in all respects for a wonderful night. Best she should come to the hotel, but we would go out first and then she would stay for the rest of the night. I have included before two links, do you know about these girls? I do not want to bargain about the price, as it is one night, I don't care about +/- 200r$ if the experience is worth it.

SwissGentleman
08-18-06, 15:35
Hello to everybody,

Thank you that helps a lot. I have read about BAHAMS club. How is it there? Who would be ready to be a wingman?

Polvo
08-18-06, 17:21
I have read about BAHAMS club...... Swiss,

I have been following your thread and your time constraints!! My suggestion is that you do go to the Bahamas Beach Club as you can check out the girls on-site. If one takes your eye you can take her upstairs on the premises. In fact, you can do that several times with several different ones in one night!! Your budget will stand it and it is top-notch talent. The other alternative is Cafe Photo where you also have a lot of choice of high quality talent but you have to go next door to slip the sausage.

I think Pluto2 has given very good advice and the chance of a "problem" are high if you book TLN on an unknown girl. If you check the merchandise out at the above clubs you can do them there - or decide to repair back to your hotel. BUT I advise sampling first!

Good luck

Polvo

Almotu
08-19-06, 01:02
SG,
Exactly how much time to you have to devoted to 'a wonderful girl in all respects' - what hours are you going to be in Sao Paulo exactly? Is your TLN . . . from 6pm - 12mid or from 11pm - 7am?

I think the W.E. guarantees TLN (until the next morning, not just until 4 or 5am but at least 9am) for $R1,000 which might be negotiable. Short time, 2 or so is $R600 I think. I have no experience with this place so YMMV. Search the board for reporting on W.E., I think many of them are by Genghis Khan. You will have time to get acquinted with the 'nice girl' before sealing the deal.

Personally, I would go to a Clinica to try to find your dream girl. Most will present the girls to you one by one - they come out in skimpy outfits and give the traditional Brazilian greeting - kisses on both cheeks! The clinicas are usually quite well lit so you can see exactly what you are getting (almost - I wish the lineups were naked LOL!) Have a nice hour long session with her which they will gladly extend and if the chemistry is right and she is into you get her cell phone number to make a dinner date and possibly more after she gets off work at about 10pm !

My 2 cents,
Almotu

Full Throttle
08-19-06, 18:06
Personally, I would go to a Clinica to try to find your dream girl. Most will present the girls to you one by one - they come out in skimpy outfits and give the traditional Brazilian greeting - kisses on both cheeks! ...

Almotu

Almotu,

Good advice for most. One thing I've noticed is that the Sao Paulo girls often only kiss on one cheek rather than two. At least, that's what Ibiza and I decided after visiting several places. Our theory is that there isn't time for both cheeks in Sao Paulo 'cause it's so busy.

IMHO, I don't think Swiss wants to make the effort to go to an MP or 3 to do research in the afternoon. I think he wants the fantasy of the girl of his dreams showing up to his hotel, leaping into his arms like a long, lost lover, then sharing a perfect evening of romance.

The best possiblity for that would be a girl from GK's semi-secret escort group or a specific garota recommendation from this board.

I would assume that any of the massage girls who we've encountered would melt into his arms and his world for R600-700. There are a couple from Kin I'd recommend in a heartbeat.

Whatever Swiss decides, there is no accounting for every variable. There will be risk matter what. That's why most are encouraging him to do a little footwork, but that kinda' messes up the plan. A paradox of sorts.

FT

KoreanGuy25
08-20-06, 04:29
Hello,

Here is my 50cents,

Last year in California, I enjoed a Companion from Brazil!

A Unique, Italian/Argentinian mix, The Quin, Very Upscale, Real GFE, File Minyon, Fluent English and Portuguese !, Hidden jemused to Diplomates and Exlusive VIP's, said will come to most countries.

In Sao Paulo now !!! Very Selective, Very educated, and I do have the contact info...

All the Best

Koreanguy25

KoreanGuy25
08-20-06, 09:51
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KoreanGuy25
08-20-06, 11:02
Thank you again Mr. GK

We had a great time, she has an exeptional sence of humor and is a very classy, high end material.

It was so nice to be with her. 100% GFE. Her parfumes and body oils, drove me crazy! We also took a short trip to Las Vegas. What a Babe, no American or European b**ch can even come close. A rare find from Brazil.

Koreanguy25

Almotu
08-20-06, 15:48
Looks like she's got breast implants. 25+ years old? How much did she charge? How much did you end up paying in total?

Just curious.

One Wing Low
08-20-06, 16:13
Would love to fuck her.

Please give me her contact info.


Hello,

Here is my 50cents,

Last year in California, I enjoed a Companion from Brazil!

A Unique, Italian/Argentinian mix, The Quin, Very Upscale, Real GFE, File Minyon, Fluent English and Portuguese !, Hidden jemused to Diplomates and Exlusive VIP's, said will come to most countries.

In Sao Paulo now !!! Very Selective, Very educated, and I do have the contact info...

All the Best

Koreanguy25

DrLudo
08-20-06, 18:21
Hi guys,

This is my first quote.

I have read quite a lot about boate like Bamboa in Sao Paulo. I will be visiting the city in the next couple of months. Could you tell me where is Bamboa and any other boate of the same type?

Thanks for your help!

Dr Ludo

Java Man
08-20-06, 18:46
Koreanguy:
curious on how you got her into the US? or did she already have a US Visa?

KoreanGuy25
08-20-06, 20:58
Another nice pick.

Does anyone also ever met her?

Have a pick?

Please share your story.

Koreanguy25

KoreanGuy25
08-20-06, 23:06
Koreanguy:

curious on how you got her into the US? or did she already have a US Visa?
As far as I know, she has a green light to go to most countries. I got her to LA in 10 days.

But she is very picky about her company.

KoreanGuy25
08-20-06, 23:36
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KoreanGuy25
08-20-06, 23:52
Please enjoy the picks,

I ceirtainly do!

P.S. (then we took a quick 5 day trip from LA to Mexico by ship)

Koreanguy25

KoreanGuy25
08-21-06, 01:52
One famous Monger from Central Asia once wrote :

"This is not your average GDP - This is a WORLD of Unbelivable Fun and Sweet Memories...

Enjoy,

Koreanguy25

KoreanGuy25
08-21-06, 02:17
Would love to fuck her.

Please give me her contact info.I agree with you,

Me too.

Enjoy the picks for now.

Koreanguy25

Death444
08-21-06, 11:23
I'm going to Sao Paulo next month.

I'm looking for Club Bahama.

The place is famous from other guys.

But I don't know where located in Sao Paulo.

Does anyone know exact address and name of street plz.

This is a little important to me. At first I should know the place.

Then I will book hotel or could you recommend me other good bars?

Sui Generis
08-21-06, 18:23
I'm going to Sao Paulo next month.

I'm looking for Club Bahama.
Does anyone know exact address and name of street plz.

Then I will book hotel or could you recommend me other good bars?

Club Bahamas: R. dos Chanés, 571- Moema
Phone: (11) 5542-2748
http://www.cyberbahamas.com.br

This club is located in Moema, which is my favorite part of São Paulo (with Jardins).

You want a bar in Moema? Here's a short list of several bars:

Vila Vitória
Rua Cotovia, 295
Tel: 5044-0180

Rocky Point
Av. Miruna, 189
Bar and coffe

John and Jack
Av. Pavão, 454
Tel: 5536-9779, 5536-9227
Evenings with live bands playing rock, blues or pop.

Troppo
Rua Tuim, 91
Tel: 5535-0744

Villa Alvear
Rua Cánario, 408

Mercedes Café
Rua Canário, 566
Tel: 5051-2322 5051-2339

Açai Beach
Av. dos Imarés, 255
Tel: 5543-7322 5094-1676
Bar and restaurant

Nostrum Bar
Al. dos Imarés, 457
Tel: 5542-7768

Café Journal
Al. dos Anapurus, 1121 (Esquina com Av. Jandira)

Choperia e Restaurante Magic Chicken
Al. dos Nhambiquaras, 1360

Nicola
Rua Graúna, 87
Tel: 5094-1777

Cachaçaria Vila Brasil
Al. dos Nhambiquaras, 1055

Stop Dog
Av. Sabiá, 748
Tel: 5051-1760


João Sehn
Avenida Lavandisca, 765
Tel: 5051-9162

Dona Flor Bar
Rua Canário, 480
Food and live bands

Le Petit Marche
Rua Canário, 1014

Planeta Aquárius
Al. Jauaperí, corner of Avenida Pavão
Tel: 5542-6520

Chopp do Miguel
Avenida Moema, 829, corner of Rua Guaramomis.
Tel: 5052-4102 5051-8732

Mohema Bar
Av. Ibirapuera, 2563
Tel: 5055-2303

Ton Ton Jazz Music bar
Al. dos Pamaris, 55
Tel: 5094-0589 5044-7239

Bar Nacional
Av. Lavandisca, 457


A Estalagem Chopperia
Largo Moema, 2
Tel: 5051-8415 5051-2857

Bar do Juarez
Av. Jurema, 324
Tel: 5052-4449

Açaí Beach
Av. dos Imarés, 255 (corner of Alameda dos Jurupis)
Tel: 5543-7722 5094-1676

Lanchonete Frederico
Av. Aratãs, 578, corner of Al. dos Anapurus
Tel: 5042-1371

Armazén Paulista
Al. Jauaperi, 570

Bar do Giba
Av. Moaci, 574
Tel: 5535-9220

Giffa''s Bar e Videokê
Al. dos Arapanés, 354
Tel: 5543-8472

Maracá
Al. dos Nhambiquaras, 1147
Tel: 5055-3041

Forno Brasile Choperia
Al. dos Anapurus, 1491
Tel: 5044-8209

Beverly Hills
Av. Juruce, 1001 (corner of Al. dos Guaramomis)
Tel: 5054-3815

Senhor Camarão
Rua Canário, 622
Tel: 5054-0801 5054-0063 5054-2885


El Kabong Bar
Al. Jauaperi, 626

Willi Willie
Al. dos Pamaris, 30
Tel: 5533-0020 5531-1061

Knuckhead
08-22-06, 05:08
Greetings, my fellow São Paulo gentelmongers!

Sexplorer has now officially ended his first day (ever) in São Paulo and is filing his field report. Despite deviating from his original plan, he is happy to report that all went well on his first day.

To begin with, let me mention that this “stop” in São Paulo was completely an afterthought, and a mere result of (non)availability of mileage award tickets and as such only hastily researched. Sexplorer was simply checking for mileage award tickets to Buenos Aires and found out that on his preferred return date, no direct flights from Buenos Aires were available whereas one was available from São Paulo. Arrangements were then made to spend today, tonight and the entire day tomorrow here before heading back home around 10pm tomorrow night. I am glad things worked out this way.

Thanks to the direct and to the point recommendation of our friend Bandy (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/search.php?do=finduser&u=11103) on this board and also in person, I had arranged for (and am now sitting in) a very nice, new, and modern (albeit rather small) room in Meliá Confort Paulista hotel. Even taking into account that Sexplorer has no previous experience in this city and hence no real frame of reference beyond what is said in this board, he still thinks that at US$62 a night (breakfast included) and only one block away from Avenida Paulista, this hotel is an excellent value.

Unfortunately, given that my flight to here from Buenos Aires was at 6:30 in the morning, and that no self respecting monger on a mongering trip to Buenos Aires ever goes to sleep before 4 am, I had made the grave mistake of not sleeping at all the night before, and hanging out with the crowd at the Argentina Private mansion until 4:30 in the morning when I was picked for the airport. Unfortunately, 5 chicas in the prior 24 hours and no sleep took their toll on me, and on the 2 hour TAM flight from B.A. to here I might just as well been hit with a sledge hammer. I simply crashed and allowed my corpse to make it into town. At 9:10 am, having gotten off the plane a complete zombie, I made my way to the pre-paid taxi stand outside of the arrivals hall. Incidentally, I thought pre-paid meant just that, but it turns out that the ride is rather “fixed price” as opposed to pre-paid. One simply pays the driver a set amount upon reaching his destination, which in my case (Jardins) was 75 Reais. I can certainly see why this system has been developed, having been offered rides into town from Rio for twice what the metered price ended up being.

On the ride from the airport, the young friendly taxi driver reaffirmed his suspicions of the mongering intention of the zombie he was carrying in his back seat, and offered a suggestion for later in the day. His suggestion was Berrini Massage (http://www.berrinimassagem.com.br); more on that later. The Sexplorer zombie was then dropped off at the hotel. As soon as he took a shower, he realized that he is in no shape to follow the rigid, detailed itinerary suggested to him by his friend Bandy, and that he will simply not be doing any sightseeing this trip either. He went right to sleep, waking up around 4pm still quite tired. An escort delivery to his room seemed like a bright idea given his absolute lack of stamina at this point, and as such, he decided to act on his fantasy of the last 10 days.

The fantasy was in the form of a bubbly, little, and just ever so pleasantly plump blonde (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=51057), of the type of which, by the way, Sexplorer can simply never get enough. He had just chanced upon her pictures during a cursory review of these pages. This garota’s name was Gabriella, and her pictures appeared in the Eros Guide. Somewhere here there was a mention of her speaking English. Well, it ended up that my pathetic kindergarten Portuguese was probably better than her English. Still, she was very eager to accommodate me on the phone and we were able to make the arrangement for her to come to my room in 30 minutes. Sure enough, in 30 minutes there was a call from the front desk, and she arrived in my room nice, perky, fresh from the shower, and with a great smile. Now, Sexplorer is used to the escort pages such as Platynum and EscortsBaires when he goes to Buenos Aires, where in general one should take 3-4 points off from the picture to arrive at the “real” girl who shows up in flesh. Well, let me say that I was pleasantly surprised when she showed up. I would say the difference between the pictures and the real Gabriella was only about one point. Somewhere along the way the two of us had completely skipped the part about discussing the price, and although I know better to handle the situation differently, I simply decided to ask for it. She asked for 250 Reais, and not having any meaningful frame of reference I accepted. Now that I am a little bit less of a zombie and my head is cleared, I would say that the price above probably included at least 50 Reais worth of Gringo up-pricing. Please do give me feedback on this! The performance was wonderful, offering BBBJ, lots of DFK, multiple positions (and pops), and lots of tender conversations. I am sure that part of me enjoying myself that much was the fact that I simply adored this type of girl. About an hour and a half later she was out the door and Sexplorer was hungry.

Gabriella had suggested a nice churascaria. This restaurant was Vente Horagano, a rodizio style churascaria where the accordingly gaucho dressed waiters bring loads of various cuts of meat to the table until you simply explode. There was an enormous salad, cheese, and cold cuts buffet, in addition to the 7-8 types of very yummy accompaniments that they brought to the table. The meats, the fish, and the barbecued chicken were fantastic. I also had a caipirinhia, and later a papaya pudding type desert (mediocre) and a cup of coffee. My bill including the service charge was 110 Reais. Again, despite not having any prior frame of reference , I think this was rather on the high end, but the quality and the sheer quantity of the food justified it.

Later, having been fed to the point of explosion (mind you, I wasn’t exactly starving in Buenos Aires in the days prior either), I got back on the street and hailed a cab. I told him the address of Berrini Massage (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=51479&stc=1), Av. Roque Petroni Jr, number 245. To him, the address might just as well have been on the moon. He had no idea, and also had no maps or any other idea how he can find out. I hailed the second cab and got a similar reaction. I said to him why don’t you ask your dispatch! Long story short, he finally found out where this very large, obvious street was, and drove me there (God bless the taxi drivers in Buenos Aires, they seem to know the smallest little streets and are about a third of the price of the taxis in Brazil). The ride took about 25 minutes and cost 35 Reais.

Once inside, the receptionist offered to explain thing to me in English (not something that I usually volunteer for, but I did appreciate her effort). For massage alone the rate was 60 for half an hour and 80 for the hour. For massage and sex the rate was 100 for half an hour and 120 for the hour. They presented at least 10 garotas, all of whom Sexplorer found imminently doable. Of special interest to him was a gorgeous mulata, Bruna. We went upstairs to a common hall which opened into 7-8 average sized massage rooms, each with a small bathroom and shower. There was a massage table in the room, but there was absolutely no pretence of a massage at all. Bruna’s attitude couldn’t be better. This girl was simply a delight, and absolutely tried hard to please me as much as possible, She apologized, saying that the place usually closes at 10 pm (I had arrived there at 9:55pm), and that even though we will be spending more than half an hour they will still charge me only for half an hour. We did lots of DFK, BJ (CBJ…alas), multiple positions on the floor, standing against the wall, leaning on the massage table, etc, and finally the “delivery” was made. I gave her a 20 Reais tip (Again, please do comment on this; is it expected? She did certainly more than earn it), and went together with her downstairs. There, the receptionist asked for the half an hour price of 100 Reais (altogether we had spent about 50 minutes). They then called a taxi for me and I left. Overall, recommended.

That is all for tonight, friends. Thanks for the great reports and your insights so far. Although I offered no real new information, I hope some of you enjoyed reading this.

Sexplorer

Almotu
08-22-06, 14:51
If this was your first time in Sao Paulo, you did well. Better than I did about 1 week ago. I found the boites expensive when you add the entrance fee, room fee or takeout fee, drinks = bottles, etc. Even if you stick with the 150-200 price range for the girls, you will still end up with a 300-400 tab for about 60-90mins of sex. Of course, you might find some exceptions but while I was in Sao Paulo, none of the girls I was with wanted TLN.

You lucked out with Gabriela, did you take any photos of your own that you can share? The photos on the website seem to me heavily retouched, but since you liked what arrived at your door and you had good chemistry . . . that's all that matters.

I missed sessioning at the massage parlours because I did not prioritize my schedule. I did check out Berrini and Kin which is opposite each other on the same street. I found the Berrini's lineup prettier but supposedly at Kin you get a lot more BBBJ! If you don't mind on premises sex, the clinicas are a great economical option.

As far as you worrying about people commenting on your paying a bit more, don't even worry about it. I believe it truth in reporting but when in doubt leave it out those specific details. Who needs to flamed for that. There are always going to be guys that will nickel and dime themselves out of a good time. P4P pricing averages out, right now the Euro is stronger so the European mongers will probably pay more because they can afford to. There are going to be spikes in the pricing so paying more on a few occasions will not 'ruin' the whole city across the board.

One recommendation that I have is to visit the Ocean Club which is the spot where Cocktail used to be (on Rua Nestor Pestana). I found some nice talent there and there are nice comfortable rooms next door for $R57=60mins next door. My second favorite is My Love followed by Kilt on this street. Never did make it to the lower priced options on Rua Augusta.

Enjoy yourself, thanks for the reporting.

Polvo
08-22-06, 16:08
Sexplorer has now officially ended his first day Sexplorer - are you AKA skmsteve?

And as for costs - who cares!! The value is in the eye of the beholder - your opinion is the only one that counts. (My $0.02 is that you got great value!! Hmmm isn't that a contradiction to my last statement?)

Regards

Polvo

Knuckhead
08-22-06, 16:30
Almotu, thanks for the kind words.

Gabriella's pictures are about accurate, and as I said, you can take off about one point in general to arrive at reality. I have found, over the years, that my taste is more for the "pleasanly plump" type, of which she is certainly one. Most North American mongers prefer the taller, leaner type, so to each his own! I did take one picture which really made her uncomfortable, and since it really doesn't add much I'll probably just keep it private.

One more thing: although she speaks very little English, I found out (quite by accident when a few words slipped out) that she speaks Deutsch very well. My Deutsch is certainly a lot better than my Portugese, and that was how we communicated.

I too am not much of a "club" person either. For one thing, I do not like smokey and lound environments, and as you said, once you tack on the entrance, drink, and room prices, things add up quickly. A lot of that money goes towards things and people who do not matter to me (i.e. the club owner), and as such I usually prefer the escort (or take out from privados) type of mongering.

And thanks for the recommendations. I have exactly 9 hours and 20 minutes until my flight leaves for the Sex Prison, and I will probably write the next report when I am securely re-confined to my Sex Prison life.

Sexplorer

Joder2
08-23-06, 06:48
I saw in this section the services offered by sampa guide named in some post.

I asked GK for advice and he recommended his services.

I have come to Sao Paulo several times and I know my way around, but I decided to call Sampa Guide to see if he could help me learn a few new tricks.

He delivered.

He was puntual, very polite, honest and very attentive.

A friend and I had dinner with Sampa Guide (he picked us up at our hotel at 9 pm) and he gave us all the information you would have taken a long time to gather in less than 2 hours.

He new everything by club, prices, quality of girls, quantity of girl, cost to enter each club, how many drinks are included in the entrance fee, how much for those clubs that have rooms inside, how much to take girls out for LTN.

It would take you serveral hours of analysis and reading reports to figure out half of the information he can provide.

In addition, he drives you around and helps to translate everything. I do not need translation since I can communicate in portuguese but still he was very helpfull.

The cost for 2 people total 200 R (100 usd).

The cost of a hotel taxi to take you around for the same amount of time ( from 9 pm to 2 am) much higher and no information. (I mean if you use the hotel taxi and have him wait for you in every place which if you have the money I recommend it since Sao Paulo is not a safe city.

I recommend Sampa Guide to any body that wants a crush course in Sao Paulo. Then you do not need to read a lot of posts and you save time and money. He can get you a nice hot girl and take her to your hotel or he can take you around and show you the therma, massage places and clubs.

By the way I brought with me the list of restaurants created by GK and is excellent I tried 3 restaurants out of this list and the 3 of them where good restaurants. Thanks GK

Thanks Fernando

Genghis Khan
08-23-06, 07:34
Joder2,

May I ask what restaurants you tried?

GK

Joder2
08-23-06, 16:46
Joder2,

May I ask what restaurants you tried?

GKGK,

Hi, I hope everything is well.

I went to Cantaloup, Shimo (they had very good tiradito and ceviche, but they do not have picanha no misso anymore), A figueira Rubaiyat (the lubina is very good)

One question. which Japanese restaurant do you consider the best?

Take care

Joder2

Genghis Khan
08-23-06, 18:23
GK,

Hi, I hope everything is well.

I went to Cantaloup, Shimo (they had very good tiradito and ceviche, but they do not have picanha no misso anymore), A figueira Rubaiyat (the lubina is very good)

One question. which Japanese restaurant do you consider the best?

Take care

Joder2

The two best Japanese restaurants are without a doubt in my mind Jun Sakamoto and Kinoshita but it is of the greatest importance to reserve the menu degustacao a day ahead at both places - the bill with sake, dessert and coffe will be about R$400. You will get the chefs full attention at the sushi bar.

GK

Full Throttle
08-23-06, 18:49
Hey Buddy, nice report.

I trust you had a good time in BA with the mansion boys. That's pretty late for DH to be up unless something very good is going on. So, I shall read, and then I shall ask when I see them next week.

You asked for comments, so here goes.

Your were 30' from CLINICA KIN when you went into Berini's!! 30' from the best MP I've found! I did a post recently detailing the BBBJ vs. CBJ ratio as reported by GPGUIA posters. Kin is about 90/10, Berini about 10/90 as I recall. I think the girls are just as good looking in Kin, as well. And the receptionist... well, no comparison. Anyway, I'm glad you enjoyed the MP experience. For those who have grown wary of such places worldwide, I can assure them that the SP versions are quite nice. NO TIPPING. Only gringos tip at those places. For spectacular service, I have tipped, but always as a present for her baby or mother or for her taxi or someting. Even then, I felt icky!

250R for a good internet girl is not a gringo ripoff, but you definitely paid the gringo price. The only way she screwed you was by recommending Vento, which is ridiculously overpriced.

Enjoying your posts... thanks!

Sui Generis
08-23-06, 19:34
NO TIPPING. Only gringos tip at those places. For spectacular service, I have tipped, but always as a present for her baby or mother or for her taxi or someting. Even then, I felt icky!

250R for a good internet girl is not a gringo ripoff, but you definitely paid the gringo price. The only way she screwed you was by recommending Vento, which is ridiculously overpriced.

Enjoying your posts... thanks!

As usual, I like your posts Full Throttle. Moreover, I'm very glad that you bring this topic on this forum: tipping.

In SP, local mongers never tip and, to tell the truth, those who are tipping (or buying gifts) are a subject of mockery. They are referred as BOP (baba ovo de puta). On the GP Guia there's even a whole section devoted to this topic and (some) GDP voice their contempt of mongers who are tipping or buying gifts. When you're in Rome do like the Romans....

Internet girls = they are between 150 and 200R$.

Joder2
08-23-06, 21:47
The two best Japanese restaurants are without a doubt in my mind Jun Sakamoto and Kinoshita but it is of the greatest importance to reserve the menu degustacao a day ahead at both places - the bill with sake, dessert and coffe will be about R$400. You will get the chefs full attention at the sushi bar.

GKHi GK,

I tried this restaurant today, basically because it was close to a meeting I had after lunch.

The place was very good just one comment on your list the telephone reads 3079-7533 I called this number but it is not the restaurant's the restaurant's number is 3079-7553. Just a small typo.

I liked the restaurant it was full, is small and many japanese brazilians clients we were the only foreiners.

Following your recommendation I will try Jun Sakamoto or Kinoshita since I am leaving tomorrow. Thanks for the tip.

Thanks again for your list of restaurants is very good.

Take care

Kent747
08-23-06, 23:51
Does anyone know if Bomboa is still open for biz?

Knuckhead
08-24-06, 05:01
Sexplorer often wonders how his life would be different, if only upon waking up each day he knew what would be in store for him later that day. The sad truth is that on many, if not most days this knowledge would make little or no difference to most of us. That is, on many, if not most days…

Sexplorer’s second day in São Paulo, my friends, was not one of those days!

At around 10am Sexplorer woke up to the tune of his alarm clock and immediately noticed the tremendous “tipi tent” effect under the bed sheets. In that “oh not quite awake, oh not quite asleep” twilight zone, the image of Gabriella’s butt from yesterday flashed across his visual cortex and the tipi continued to get larger. His tired mind, desperately clinging to a few more precious moments of slumber, kept replaying that image just as a television station would do in the case of an “instant replay” during a football match. Oh, what a fun time it was… Oh, I would do it again in a heartbeat if I were still there… BUT WAIT!!!! I AM still here in Brazil! I have one more day left! I won’t have to go back to Sex Prison until later tonight, and with these reassuring thoughts, Sexplorer jumped out of bed and picked up the phone and called the same girl. For some reason she just couldn’t believe that I wanted to see her one more time. She asked that this time I go to her place.

So, Sexplorer went downstairs and availed himself of the already included breakfast buffet, came back up, showered, dressed, and off he went to Gabriela’s place. The taxi driver knew what the street was, but had no idea what the numbering scheme was like. She crossed Avenida Paulista 3 times before finding the exact number. These taxi drivers are amazingly clueless for such a big city! Finally she let me out in front of her building, which on the way back I discovered was only about 3-4 minute walk(!!) away from my hotel. The building was a akin to an extended stay hotel with a reception desk, etc. As directed I went to the receptionist and after a few minutes she put her card in the elevator and sent me up to the 21st floor. There she opened the door wearing a nice one piece dress and smiling as bubbly as yesterday.

After a little bit of chit chat, I got right back to the action and went through the alphabet soup of mongering, BBBJ, FS, Doggy, CG, RCG, etc… and finally delivered a load, while looking into those amazingly beautiful eyes. I lay there on the bed beside her and we talked for a while. Then the two of us dressed to go down, and I forgot to pay her!!! Those of you who have read my Argentina reports may recall there was a particular girl I would routinely forget to pay trip after trip, and this was just another situation like that. The sex was good (not great, just good), and somehow my pathetic brain must have bypasses that critical step of payment. Of course, this fact was not lost on the girl who in a sweet and perplexed manner asked if I would pay her the “gift”. She was paid her 250 Reais as a token of my appreciation and as a donation to her college fund.

Now that I am looking at it in retrospect, had my day ended at that point in time, I would have been content. I would have simply dragged myself back to Sex Prison and kept the memory. Luckily for me, the day didn’t end there; it just kept getting better and better, to the point that had I know what is in store for me that afternoon, I would have very gladly skipped this encounter and continued to get a few more hours of sleep and saved 250 Reais.

Surferr3
08-24-06, 06:47
I love Sexplorer's reporting style.

It is very informative.

Please keep it up!

Genghis Khan
08-24-06, 07:00
Hi GK,

I tried this restaurant today, basically because it was close to a meeting I had after lunch.

The place was very good just one comment on your list the telephone reads 3079-7533 I called this number but it is not the restaurant's the restaurant's number is 3079-7553. Just a small typo.

I liked the restaurant it was full, is small and many japanese brazilians clients we were the only foreiners.

Following your recommendation I will try Jun Sakamoto or Kinoshita since I am leaving tomorrow. Thanks for the tip.

Thanks again for your list of restaurants is very good.

Take care

Joder2,

Thanks for the correction. I will revise the restaurant list soon.

Concerning the restaurants Kinoshita and Jun Sakamoto - if you like sushi I would recommend Jun Sakamoto. The menu degustacao includes two starters, otherwise the rest is sushi. The menu degustacao at Kinoshita includes a number of small courses including other items than sushi. Both chefs speak English.

GK

Euro100
08-25-06, 04:37
Hey Sexplorer,

let's us have it with the second part of day 2. In the meantime, I have enshrined your first two posts on this adventure into the Distinction thread. Good stuff; kep it coming (pun intended).

BTW, I also love the rodizio places. Even at the price you paid, it's still good value. And 250 for Gabriella does not strike me as a rippoff either. I'll give her a spin on my next trip to Sampa.

euro

Joder2
08-25-06, 12:27
Joder2,

Thanks for the correction. I will revise the restaurant list soon.

Concerning the restaurants Kinoshita and Jun Sakamoto - if you like sushi I would recommend Jun Sakamoto. The menu degustacao includes two starters, otherwise the rest is sushi. The menu degustacao at Kinoshita includes a number of small courses including other items than sushi. Both chefs speak English.

GKGK I went to Baby Beef Rubaiya and it was closed I think they are reforming the place.

El Greco
08-25-06, 20:39
Did you ever think of writing a book?

The title could be "Latin America Sexplorations?

I bet you could make a fortune!!!

Great posts, keep it up.

Thanks,

El Greco

Genghis Khan
08-25-06, 21:33
GK I went to Baby Beef Rubaiya and it was closed I think they are reforming the place.

Yes, I know. They have two addresses and unfortunatly the address on my list closed for reforming a couple of weeks ago. The other address however is still open. Avenida Brigadeiro Faria Lima 2954, Itaim Bibi. 3078-9488

GK

KoreanGuy25
08-26-06, 03:33
Hello, Dear Felow Mongers of the World Association !

I appreciate all for posting such a wonderful information and detailed reports. I also appreciate the Staff for exellent work.

Also, I think its trully an Art to be a Monger and it should be recognized in the community as a Legitimate Organization!

I hope that all of you eat some pussy today, but if not , then its allways tomorrow... Also I allways enjoy to at least see and appreciate a cute Brasileras face and no photoshops involvement. Its like in here, and you can see the real beauty of her soft skin. My dick is hard as wood and ready to go, just loking at her face and dreaming to see her again...

I would love to be in Sao Paulo to bang sweet ass again.

O Ale.. Ale...

Some time I take her to LIDO and we do some craZZy shit... Its very nice there and last year we did 3some there, lots of fun.

But then again, you can't have it everyday ( we are in sexprison here ... )

So - Enjoy what you can and when you can.

KoreanGuy25
08-26-06, 07:28
She loves Lax sanwiches.

Me too.

KoreanGuy25
08-26-06, 10:43
I would highly reccomend to any self respecting Monger to treat a favorite garota to the cruise.

The only things to do on the cruise is :

1) Fuck
2) Eat
3) Drink
1) Fuck
2) Eat
3) Drink
1) Fuck
2) Eat
3) Drink

SWEEET !

Knuckhead
08-26-06, 22:39
first and foremost, sexplorer wants to express his appreciation for the all the kind words of this fine community of regulars. thanks for putting up with the musings of this newbie.

second, for the benefit of those of us who have to speed read the forum for useful information (just as i had to do before coming), i’ll have to mention that the report below is simply a long narrative some might enjoy reading. it does not contain any significant new factual information.

continuing on where (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=498814&postcount=377)we left gabriella’s apartment around noon, a 3 minute walk put sexplorer smack in front of sol meliá, as though he was caught in a time warp. what had earlier taken him about 15 minutes in a genuinely clueless taxi and on the previous day, a 30 reais round trip “taxi fare” (ka-chingggg$$$) for gabriella, ended up being so close that it would have probably been meaningless to get there by any other means than just plain walking.

after a quick shower and change of clothes, sexplorer’s sense of guilt for not having done absolutely anything outside screwing and eating, along with his lack of any “sightseeing pictures” finally convinced him to go downtown for lunch and a quick walk. for all of you like minded mongers who would rather not waste any time taking photographs, feel free to use mine (below) to show your friends, significant others ,etc so that they will realize that your only purpose of visiting são paulo was to broaden your horizons, get out and see the world, and immerse yourself in the local culture. personally, i would rather “immerse” parts of myself in something a little more juicy and inviting ;), which i was about do later that day.

so, off went sexplorer to his first são paulo metro ride starting from the paulista-consolação metro station, less than a 2-minute walk from his hotel. the metro system of this city is phenomenal. not only is it clean and rather new, but most importantly, very efficient. sexplorer’s ride from paulista-consolação station to república station involved three metro lines and 2 transfers, yet it took less than 25 minutes. the frequency of trains in mid-day, was even better than that of paris. in essence, sexplorer didn’t have to wait for a train more than one minute at each transfer point. if there is a metro station nearby where you are going, sexplorer highly recommends this mode of transport, not because of the money, but rather because of the time savings involved.

at the república station, sexplorer left the metro system and visited edificio itália (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=51451). he went up to the top floor to the building, to the rather touristy terraço itália (http://www.terracoitalia.com.br/eua/default1.htm) restaurant. they featured an o.k. lunch buffet, but that was almost beside the point of this restaurant, for the expansive views were absolutely astounding. sexplorer nursed a caipirinha while enjoying the milanesa of veal, the one item he found most tasty among the other mediocre offerings in the buffet. the bill was 67 reais, certainly reflecting the touristy nature of this place. nonetheless, the overall experience was very pleasant, and after lunch he went outside to the terrace and watched the fantastic skyline (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=51452) abuzz with helicopters ferrying the (undoubtedly mongering) executives from one building roof to the other.

descending from the heavens, sexplorer walked around downtown a little bit more and took some pictures (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=51453&stc=1) as alibi for the serious nature of his trip. before long, he could no longer hide his true self and the ferocious, sick beast inside him, let alone the other “cialis”ly emboldened one in his pants. out came the printout of bandy’s pm, and down he went back inside the metro station at república. he back-tracked to the vergueiro station, where a 5-minute cab ride took him to termas eu e ellas (http://www.sperotico.com.br/eu/index.htm), at rua pires da mota 494 (http://www.sperotico.com.br/eu/loca.htm). at 4 pm, sexplorer had about 3.5 hours to avail himself of the multitude of the garotas of the house, rush back to sol meliá, dump everything in his suitcase, and be in a cab to the airport for his 9:50pm flight back to sex prison. with that time frame in mind, he paid the 79 reais entrance fee and was ushered upstairs by the friendly guy at the front desk while all the rules of the casa were explained to him.

upstairs at the dressing room, sexplorer was given a rope and a pair of slippers, and the key to a locker. at this point sexplorer made the incorrect assumption that as in rio termas, the payment for everything, including the garotas, is made at exiting the facility, where in reality the model is much more like a german fkk, where the girls are paid separately at the end of each session. he walked around the facility, visiting the sauna and vapor rooms and the porno room. there was a light buffet at the bottom of the stairs, but sexplorer had already eaten and he did not partake. sexplorer's preliminary garota count at about 4pm on that tuesday was about 25. with so many pleasant choices, he took care to avoid his usual pitfall of not being able to say “no” to any garotas and being snatched by one of the first few approaching him. as such, he "interviewed" many candidates, none of whom he found objectionable. however, unlike in sex prison where the choices range from pathetic to horrible to bad, in eu e ellas the choices ranged from good to better to fantastic. finally, a rather pleasantly aggressive morena of at least 1.75m height approached him and without any introduction, took his hand and put it on her breasts, and stuck her tongue down sexplorer’s throat. otimo! was the thought that went through sexplorer’s mind. glad to meet you too! her name was talia and she appeared to be about 22-23 years old. she tried in vain to utter (or rather parrot) a few words of english, which sounded worse than an antique gramophone. sure, honey, thanks for the gesture, but we’ll stick to my shamelessly poor portuguese.

sexplorer wasted no time at declaring his indecent intentions to his bride for the hour, and in three minutes the two lovebirds were inside one of the rooms upstairs. i started with a gentle kiss and caressing her nice, curvy back, and lightly touching her shoulders. this treatment rather took her by surprise, and from that point on the performance was simply fantastic. lots of dfk were exchanged, bbbj was volunteered and expertly performed, and an extended session of fs in multiple positioned ensued. somewhere along the line came an invigorating orgasm on her part, and on continuation i switched her to the doggie position and shortly thereafter delivered a seismic load. we showered together, with another very hot and heavy making out session while under the shower, and then came the knock on the door. the two of us came downstairs and sat in the atrium next the sauna, nursing a caipirinha while intermittently dfk’ing. she mentioned that in november she will be turning 20. if true, kudos to her for being so experienced. a 19 year old (exactly for this reason) wouldn’t usually be one sexplorer would go for automatically, as he likes them a little older. in any case, i had no idea that the girl was simply hanging around to get paid! i thought i would simply pay once at exiting. the other point was that i also didn’t realize that although 100 reais is the norm, the price needs to be agreed upon in advance! the garota simply just sat there dfk’ing me, and i’m sure down below she was thinking why the heck isn’t she getting paid?

after a little bit of conversation, i asked talia to introduce me to another friend of hers, one that would be as good as she was. she took this as a complement, and after a few minutes grabbed a bottle blond, brown-eyed girl-next-door type cutie and introduced her to me. her name was jacqueline, and she was fresh out of shower with a towel wrapped around her. i don’t want to think where she had come from immediately before, maybe she just took a shower because she had just come in? or perhaps she took a shower just to get fresh for sexplorer? who knows, but it couldn’t possibly be because she had come back from another session. no sir, impossible ;)!

jacqueline was a little baffled by this handover at first, something that sexplorer didn’t quite understand. the two garotas talked amongst themselves and talia kept saying something to the effect that it was o.k... in retrospect, i suppose jacqueline was asking talia why the handover without getting paid? i don’t know. i gave my last temporary bride one last goodbye kiss, and was escorted by the new love of my life to the same:o room! at his point, sexplorer will try to remain as objective as possible, and report the happenings with sincere journalistic integrity. he will certainly not allow subjective interpretations to get in the way of reporting the cold, hard, facts…but…oh my god, oh my god, oh my god!!, was this such an incredible experience!

the following two paragraphs only deatil sexplorer's subjective experience and truth be told, border on being cheesy. having said this, putting his memories in writing helped sexplorer relive this one of the kind, rare one hour of his life where by sheer chance, he was put at the right place at the right time. i do realize that it would be highly unlikely for sexplorer to be able to replicate this even with the same girl. so, with that disclaimer in mind, here it goes:

when in the room, it immediately became apparent that somehow it was going to be just perfect between the two of us. everything just fit right. the two of us were of proportionate heights in respect to one another, our bodies fit perfectly, we both took an immediate liking to the other, and the look in her eyes soon turned into one of sheer feminine charm. suffices to say that for an incredibly jaded and disillusioned monger like sexplorer (who just in the last 5 days had been through 15 partners), and a decidedly high volume girl one would find in a terma, the stars must have been aligned precisely right to find such a good fit.

for the next hour sexplorer forgot where he was. he just concentrated on the girl in front of him, and the garota clearly did the same. so many long, passionate, and tender kisses were exchanged, and so much caressing was done by both. bbbj was clearly a labor of love, and just seconds after starting fs in missionary position jacqueline first became as red as a traffic light in the face, then profoundly apologetic, repeating “out of my control” over and over, squeezed me as hard as one could imagine, and came to climax. the whole thing obviously embarrassed her greatly. sexplorer let out a sigh, kissed the garota, and reassured her that everything was fine. jacqueline proceeded to get on top, starting to grind herself around sexplorer’s flagpole, and the two of them had a rare moment of mutual orgasm. this was the third load of the day for sexplorer, and he was completely drained and really needed to just call it the day. instead, jacqueline simply kept her arms wrapped around sexplorer, whispering in his ears “i want more, please, i want more now”. she reached down, took the condom off, and gently put sexplorer’s beat up “organ” in her mouth. for about 10 minutes, she continued to gently tease sexplorer as such, while at the same time using her hand to keep herself aroused. after about ten minutes of this she hopped on top, violently grinding herself against the now beat up sexplorer considering the face value of his life insurance policy and cursing himself for not having made a will yet... in no time she tensed up, had yet another orgasm, and just fell to the bed sweating and panting as though she had just finished a triathlon. immediately she realized that she has a “job” to do, and asked sexplorer to give her a pearl necklace. what a sight, as sexplorer’s junior slid between her (medium sized) breasts only to meet with her sweet mouth. necklace…delivered!

at this point it was already 6:50pm and sexplorer was short on time, not to mention short of breath and energy. all the stamina of the world had simply been drained from him. as he was running out of the room, in the most apologetic way jacqueline asked to be paid. at this point it hit me! the girls are to be paid separately, and the price was to be negotiated, which of course i hadn’t done with either one of them. so, i asked her to wait, went to my locker, and got her and talia 120 reais each. i absolutely hate paying over the “going rate”, at the same time, i am sure this service was beyond the ordinary, and hence the extra 20reais each was earned.

i descended the stairs, and went out to the reception desk and was handed a bill for 121 reais (two hours at 59 reais each, and a caipirinha). as i paid and was leaving the building, jacqueline opened the door of the boite, jumped out, and gave me a nice, long kiss. i was then back on the street, and the taxi driver mentioned that at this hour (7pm) it may take as long as half an hour to make it to the jardins. i therefore asked him to drop me off at the paraíso metro station. from there the ride to the pulista-consolação station only took 5 minutes, and i was in my hotel room by 7:15. god bless the metro!

i took a shower, dumped everything in the suitcase, and came down to pay my bill. unfortunately, even though i had reserved a “double”, they had charged 20reais “joiners’ fee” when gabriella had visited me yesterday. sadly, i was simply not in a frame of mind to discuss with the nice looking receptionist girl why they had charged me a “hooker’s fee” in front of others standing in the lobby. i let it go, and i’m absolutely certain that is exactly why they had charged this fee in the first place. still, i consider the hotel to have been an excellent value.

at 7:40pm i left the hotel in a taxi, having negotiated a flat 80 reais fee. we hit a few small pockets of traffic, but overall the ride went smooth and i was at the airport by 8:30pm. i was traveling first class (on miles, of course!), so there was nobody in front of me in the line and i had my boarding pass in my hand in less than 2 minutes. it took about 35 minutes to get through the security, and i was at the gate around 9:10pm. i boarded the plane, settled in my seat, and fell asleep. about an hour later the flight attendant woke me up for some food, which having worked up a good appetite i needed and enjoyed. i am usually a united flyer, but this time i was flying american and i really liked their first class product to south america compared to that of united. thanks to the flat bed, i slept comfortably until literally 5 minutes before landing in miami.

and then, just like that, i was back in the sex prison, and it was all over :(.

Polvo
08-26-06, 23:03
At his point, Sexplorer will try to remain as objective as possible, and report the happenings with sincere journalistic integrity. He will certainly not allow subjective interpretations to get in the way of reporting the cold, hard, facts…but…oh my god, oh my god, OH MY GOD!!, was this such an incredible experienceI am out of breath reading this superb report, let alone doing it!! Sexplorer are you a God?

Nominated as a report of distinction.

Polvo

Java Man
08-27-06, 00:02
terraco Italia has a multi lingo website, check out the panoramic view of SP.

http://www.terracoitalia.com.br/

Surferr3
08-27-06, 05:55
Outstanding report.

I loved the details of your last day. Your comments about the helicopters carrying exec's ("obviously mongerers") cracked me up.

Thanks for sharing.

Genghis Khan
08-27-06, 08:55
You certainly are a very good writer. I hope your trip to Sao Paulo has tempted you of a return, and if you do return please treat us to another series of reports like this.

GK

Knuckhead
08-27-06, 18:41
Fellows, thank you all for the kind words. I know I didn't really have too much in the way of substantial information to contribute, but I thought given that I had learned so much from this board I'd spend some time writing a few reports with at least some entertainment value. I'm glad you enjoyed them, and that is exactly why I spent the time writing them.

Of course, having now experienced this wonderful city first hand, I'd be sure to return and would be glad to meet with anyone in town at that time.

For now, Sportsman and I are booked for Rio November 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th.

Sexplorer

Devil Hunter
08-30-06, 00:24
Fellows, thank you all for the kind words. I know I didn't really have too much in the way of substantial information to contribute, but I thought given that I had learned so much from this board I'd spend some time writing a few reports with at least some entertainment value. I'm glad you enjoyed them, and that is exactly why I spent the time writing them.

Of course, having now experienced this wonderful city first hand, I'd be sure to return and would be glad to meet with anyone in town at that time.

For now, Sportsman and I are booked for Rio November 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th.

SexplorerHello There,

I have read ur reports and they r really good. Well i just need sum extra information. I'm going to Sao Paulo next week for sum wk and like to have good fun in nite time. I checked Mclass web site and Man Brazilian gurls r really HOT. I tried to call on sum numbers but was disappionted as non of girls speak english and i cant speak portuguese.

Can you give number of any Hot brazilian girl who can as well speak english.

Thanks

KoreanGuy25
08-31-06, 14:50
From Italian board:

A comedy.

19 years old, fresh from Africa, not yet contaminated by the European pollution!

WHAAT ?
JUST LOOK AT HER FACE MAN !?!
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=501337#post501337

Polvo
09-01-06, 02:50
Hello There,

I have read ur reports and they r really good. Well i just need sum extra information. I'm going to Sao Paulo next week for sum wk and like to have good fun in nite time. I checked Mclass web site and Man Brazilian gurls r really HOT. I tried to call on sum numbers but was disappionted as non of girls speak english and i cant speak portuguese.

Can you give number of any Hot brazilian girl who can as well speak english.

ThanksWhat is your primary language?

Robert Munich
09-01-06, 03:34
... by day , you work - - - but by night ? ? ?

So, after long hours of work, and some eye-catching and thus stimulating girls at nearly every booth on the exhibition, I couldn't stand the heat any longer and left for Eu & Elas yesterday night.

The taxi driver had no idea where it is, but thanks to my last year's visit, I new the direction. Finally he dropped me and I entered the etablissement.

I intended just to take a towel for the preliminary chit-chat, but the temperatures inside the barroom were similar to outside in the streets, so I got myself a bathrobe in order not to loose my heat ;-)

Some girls approached me with a kiss, told me their name, but I did not hook up. I sat with my drink, took my time to look around ( I love the picking up of contact with the eyes first ).

And there she was, nearly opposite of me sat a tall girl with dark long hair, slim but not skinny, nice breasts and a firm "bumbum" and with a smile to die for.

So I got up, left the barroom and gave her a look to follow me - which she did immediately. We met a few meters away, embraced and started kissing immediately - it was the beginning of a pure GFE.

First, we stayed in the movie room for more kissing, then we went upstairs onto the "public" round bed, where another couple was already active. This really turns me on, to have more people fucking aside of me.

And off we went - DFK, 69, BBBJ, and then FS in various positions until we finished totally exhausted. We stayed some more time on the bed just kuddeling and still kissing.

We then had another drink together and I left absolutely satisfied. Her name is Giselle and to me, she was really lovely ! Total damage was about 300 R$ for everything.

Tonight, I thought to follow the steps of Sexplorer to Massagem Berrini, but that was not the best.
Maybe I was not in the perfect mood also.

So, the reception is very nice, the receptionist was really a funny girl, we laughed a lot.
The line-up then was optically very good, some 7, some 8 and a 9.
I chose the 9 - Pamela - a Playboy of Brazil model simply because she is a beautiful girl, and I never had a real bunny before.

Well, her service was ok, but she was not much into it, so we made the long story short and finished relatively quickly. BBBJ was 150 R$ extra - which seemed to me very much, but I didn't want any hassle and paid. To my surprise, she offered me a massage then, which I accepted. She was amazingly skilled in that so that I took profit from that.

Later, back at the reception, I took a beer to relax before heading back to the hotel. Then, the receptionist approached me and after a short discussion, she gave me 100 R$ back ! It was a misunderstanding due to my no-Portugese and her no-English !

I must say, this is a remakable case of correctness which I honour very much.

So long

RM

Full Throttle
09-01-06, 14:24
...
Tonight, I thought to follow the steps of Sexplorer to Massagem Berrini, but that was not the best....

So long

RM

Beririni? You were across the street from the best massage place in Sao Paulo, and you chose Berrini??? Don't take my word for it, consider these GPGUIA stats:

Clinica Kin:
Overall: NEUTRAL (65) POSITIVE (654) NEGATIVE (28)
That's 87.6% Positive and 03.7% Negative
Anal: Yes (142) Not (139) 50.5% do anal
BBBJ: Yes (518) Not (84) 86% do BBBJ vs. CBJ
DFK: Yes (516) Not (56) 91.8% DFK

Berrini:
Overall: NEUTRAL (59) POSITIVE (321) NEGATIVE 49)
That's 74.8% positive and 11.4% Negative
Anal: Yes (31) Not (176) 14.9% do anal
BBBJ: Yes (41) Not (316) 11.5% do BBBJ vs. CBJ
DFK: Yes (180) Not (172) 51.1% DFK

88% vs. 75%?
51% vs. 15%?
86% vs. 12%?
92% vs. 51%?
3% risk vs. 11% risk?

And these are based on reports by 1,200 demanding Brazilian guys.

I'm not on the take or anything at Kin. I do unabashedly point out to the madam that a good percentage of the gringo business she gets comes from me. That may not be true, but I suspect I get stronger drinks and theorize that she tells the girls to treat me right. That's my high-roller, VIP fantasy, anyway.

But, I write about Kin and every girl that I recommend in the spirit of everyone getting as big a bang for the buck as possible. If you don't believe me, check my postings here, Rio, BA, and elsewhere. I ALWAYS include names of girls and where to find them when I recommend them. I've never kept one "just for myself." My theory is that they provide good service so that they can increase business, now decrease it.

So, take my advice OR play the unbiased odds. Either way, don't go 4,000 miles south and end up short of the best massage place by 50'!!

Glad to hear about Eu & Elas. You know, the tab at the Rio termas is around 300R now, as well, so there is little advantage to Rio in terms of price. And, the facade of Eu and Elas is top notch-- nicer than any of the Copa termas. So, maybe I'll take a night off from "Deep Augusta" and spend some money at Eu & Elas.

FT

Devil Hunter
09-01-06, 23:05
What is your primary language?I speak english. I'm from UK. Do you know any girl speak english in Sao Paulo? Please let me know as my flight is on Monday.

Thx

Sui Generis
09-02-06, 08:05
I speak english. I'm from UK. Do you know any girl speak english in Sao Paulo? Please let me know as my flight is on Monday.

Thx

I know two of them that speak English:

Bellaxxx (220R$)

http://www.malicia.com.br/free/4914
http://www.chantily.com.br/saopaulo/gar.../bella.htm
http://www.escortsp.com.br/site/index.p...&id=93
http://www.bestmodel.com.br/detalhes.asp?id=16
http://www.erosguide.com.br/Bellaa/Bella_free.htm
http://www.pimp.com.br/index2.php?link=...odelo=1428
http://www.sexdreams.com.br/acompanhant.../index.php
http://www.gatadasemana.com.br/gatadase.../index.php


Elektra (200R$)

http:// www.elektrasp.fotoblog.uol.com.br
http://www.clubmodel.com.br/perfil.php?id=12

KoreanGuy25
09-02-06, 20:42
I speak english. I'm from UK. Do you know any girl speak english in Sao Paulo? Please let me know as my flight is on Monday.

ThxHey Man,

This one speaks fluent English and is Sao Paulo now,

she also speaks ok Japanise, good Korean and ok Italian!

Give it a spin, see whasaap, and please post some picks 4 us!

Peace,

KG

Devil Hunter
09-02-06, 23:39
Hey Man,

This one speaks fluent English and is Sao Paulo now,

she also speaks ok Japanise, good Korean and ok Italian!

Give it a spin, see whasaap, and please post some picks 4 us!

Peace,

KGThx Koreanguy for the information. Sure will post some pics if she allowed to take sum pics. Please give me her contact number or web site from where I can get more information.

Peace

Devil Hunter
09-02-06, 23:42
I know two of them that speak English:

Bellaxxx (220R$)

http://www.malicia.com.br/free/4914
http://www.chantily.com.br/saopaulo/gar.../bella.htm
http://www.escortsp.com.br/site/index.p...&id=93
http://www.bestmodel.com.br/detalhes.asp?id=16
http://www.erosguide.com.br/Bellaa/Bella_free.htm
http://www.pimp.com.br/index2.php?link=...odelo=1428
http://www.sexdreams.com.br/acompanhant.../index.php
http://www.gatadasemana.com.br/gatadase.../index.php

Elektra (200R$)

http:// www.elektrasp.fotoblog.uol.com.br
http://www.clubmodel.com.br/perfil.php?id=12

Thanks man for the information. will contact Elektra as Bella is abit old. I will post sum pics.

Peace

KoreanGuy25
09-03-06, 06:38
GANG,

Please post a feedback and Picks of Garotas I

Used and reccomend.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=52028

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=52029

All the best,

KG

Almotu
09-03-06, 08:09
DH: Not sure why you would need an English speaker. As any punter will tell you money and hand gestures will get you the sex that you require most of the time. But if you still need someone that speaks English then you should pay a visit to the club, Kilt. They cater to foreigners and on most nights you'll find English speaking garotas there.

Have fun!

Almotu

GabrielSilva
09-03-06, 13:13
From Italian board:

A comedy.

19 years old, fresh from Africa, not yet contaminated by the European pollution!

WHAAT ?
JUST LOOK AT HER FACE MAN !?!
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=501337#post501337Hi Koreanguy,

Damn it man! But how on earth didn't you know that Italians are the masters of bizarre comedy! Your comment did actually make laugh a hell of a lot as I actually did see that precious unpolluted gem s face a few minutes before your lovely and well targeted comment. Greetings to you from Sweden. Or Do you hope that I show you another unpolluted jewel from the Hookers street in Gothenburg. I think you will pass. On this one.

A praise to italian comedy. From the italian comedy fan club in Sweden

Greetings,

Gab

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09-03-06, 17:06
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Robert Munich
09-03-06, 21:15
Hi man, from your statistics you are certainly right, and especially in my case ...

However, statistics is not all, and maybe I simply chose the wrong girl - well - shit happens !

But I just wanted to post that they are absolutely correct - which is not the governing rule in the red light districs.

Finally - as for Eu & Elas : this is really a good recommendation from me as a demanding foreigner ! I have been there already last year and was totally happy - I mean that the athmosphere adds to a good mood for the evening / night.

Keep the iron high !

RM

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09-04-06, 00:54
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Sprite13
09-04-06, 03:12
I know two of them that speak English:

Bellaxxx (220R$)

http://www.malicia.com.br/free/4914
http://www.chantily.com.br/saopaulo/gar.../bella.htm
http://www.escortsp.com.br/site/index.p...&id=93
http://www.bestmodel.com.br/detalhes.asp?id=16
http://www.erosguide.com.br/Bellaa/Bella_free.htm
http://www.pimp.com.br/index2.php?link=...odelo=1428
http://www.sexdreams.com.br/acompanhant.../index.php
http://www.gatadasemana.com.br/gatadase.../index.php

Elektra (200R$)

http:// www.elektrasp.fotoblog.uol.com.br
http://www.clubmodel.com.br/perfil.php?id=12

Sui Generis and everyone else:

I was thinking for a long time to visit SP but due to the recent not so safe environment in Sampa, I have decided to postpone it till now where I was sticking mostly to Rio. After checking the sites kindly posted in here, I am truly just louco to go to SP. Now, a couple of questions gents:

a) how accurate are the pics of the girls on the above-mentioned sites?

b) How much are the services of these gatas? and for how long? Am I safe to assume it'd be around 2-250/2 hours as it's usually the norm in Brasil?

Valeu. :)

P.S. English speaking gatas are not required, at the very opposite as I do speak Portuguese. ;)

Rodney Houston
09-04-06, 07:15
I will be in Sao Poulo in mid-november for about a week and am looking for a guide to help with communication and getting around town does anyone have any helpful suggestions.

Surferr3
09-04-06, 08:11
FYI


I saw Bella last trip. She is in her thirties. I prefer younger but she spoke fluent English. If anyone is looking for an ENGLISH speaking garota she is an easy fix with a great session. I would highly reccommend and I rarely repeat and I plan on calling her my next trip to Sampa.

She was a blast.

DrLudo
09-04-06, 10:08
[QUOTE=Sprite13]Sui Generis and everyone else:

I was thinking for a long time to visit SP but due to the recent not so safe environment in Sampa, I have decided to postpone it till now where I was sticking mostly to Rio. After checking the sites kindly posted in here, I am truly just louco to go to SP.[QUOTE]Hi,

Sao Paulo can be dangerous if you go to certain places at a certain time and wearing certain clothes... But it is FAR LESS dangerous thatn Rio! I spend about 6 months a year in Sampa and, if you are careful not to exhibit to many expensive items, nothing should happen to you.

Have a sfe trip and keep us posted!

Dr Ludo

Rodney Houston
09-05-06, 01:48
I would like input on what are the best hotels for my stay in Sao Paulo money is not a factor.

Breast Is Best
09-05-06, 09:40
You seem to be very single topic focused. Ie SweetAle. I do hope you are genuine on the board. And not SweetAle herself taking on an alias.

Only joking but. But to fellow mongers. You never know guys.

I was going to see SweetAle in SP myself tonight but did not like the vibe at all in the correspondence. Viz. 'I really don't care if I see you or not' having come on real strong. Yada yada. Life's just too goddamn short. And when I terminated it she got nutso saying (and I paraphrase) 'I may just be a hooker but I still take cash from dum idiots like you'. I was not proud of myself in replying to her in kind but did immediately send an apology.

I'm a pretty high roller and money genuinely is not an object for me so I often seek out and am happy to pay for special experiences and I can smell a bad one a mile off. Her loss. No invite to the yacht in Sth France this summer for her.

KoreanGuy25
09-05-06, 12:42
I look forward to other members reports and picks of her.

Enjoy,

KG

Genghis Khan
09-05-06, 19:47
I look forward to other members reports and picks of her.

Enjoy,

KG

KoreanGuy25,

As another member suggested you are coming on too strong about this and you don't post about anything else. You need to build up a trustworthy relationship with this board before you can come on as strong as you do.

For a start why don't you post your experiences with the girls you recomend. That would really be worth something.

GK

KoreanGuy25
09-05-06, 20:34
KoreanGuy25,

As another member suggested you are coming on too strong about this and you don't post about anything else. You need to build up a trustworthy relationship with this board before you can come on as strong as you do.

For a start why don't you post your experiences with the girls you recomend. That would really be worth something.

GKShe is my favorite,

If I had a ***** House, I would post all of them.

We allready had this issue come up with you.

So don't look at my post, and mind your own bisiness, ok?

Devil Hunter
09-05-06, 22:40
I look forward to other members reports and picks of her.

Enjoy,

KGHello KoreanGuy,

I arrived Sao Paulo last nite. Tried loads of numbers from Mclass but no luck as non of gurl speaks english.Anyways can u give contact number of dis girl as u said she speaks english.

Thx alot.

KoreanGuy25
09-06-06, 02:35
Hello KoreanGuy,

I arrived Sao Paulo last nite. Tried loads of numbers from Mclass but no luck as non of gurl speaks english.Anyways can u give contact number of dis girl as u said she speaks english.

Thx alot.I just PM you her number a few minutes ago.

Take some nice picks.

Enjoy,

KG

Bubba Boy
09-06-06, 04:58
So don't look at my post, and mind your own bisiness, ok?

Half of your posts have been deleted, a number of senior members have issues with your posts, that would be a good indication that you need to adjust your posts rather than assuming you are the one in the right.

KoreanGuy25
09-06-06, 07:20
Half of your posts have been deleted, a number of senior members have issues with your posts, that would be a good indication that you need to adjust your posts rather than assuming you are the one in the right.Fellas,

I just realized that Devil Hunter, Mr. An.. from London and some Senior members who own some adult entertainment establishments are one person! We are being fooled here! I do not know what kind of sick games they are playing, but If somebody needs the proof of our PM communication, I can email you that. Get off my case Freaks!

Or please call me, if you have something to talk about.

KoreanGuy25

KoreanGuy25
09-06-06, 07:23
Half of your posts have been deleted, a number of senior members have issues with your posts, that would be a good indication that you need to adjust your posts rather than assuming you are the one in the right.Baba, please kindly reffer to the pick.

I hope you got it!

Sweet

Diabolos88
09-06-06, 07:31
Its been almost 2 years now since Ive been in SP, but am planning a visit in te next few weeks. Anyone know if Cafe Photo is still open? My experience there was quite good and would like return to capture some of that high quality crazy bundha:)

Diabolos88
09-06-06, 07:36
Does anyone know if Cafe Photo is still open for business?

KoreanGuy25
09-06-06, 08:08
You seem to be very single topic focused. Ie SweetAle. I do hope you are genuine on the board. And not SweetAle herself taking on an alias.
Only joking but. But to fellow mongers. You never know guys.
and am happy to pay for special .. No invite to the yacht in Sth France this summer for her.Hey Man, First of All look at your unedited PM :
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08-24-06 at 11:14
Paul02
Regular Member
Reports: 2
Re: SP Girl
Koreanguy,

I am a veteran member of the board and have been to Brazil 18 times. I would never mention your affiliation with the board. I also have no problem with not mentioning your name. However, I am sure she will ask how I obtained her contact information. How should I answer the question?

Thanks

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Ok, Paul02 who been to Brazil 18 times. And forgive me for asking but how many veteran members do you pretend to represent? I mean besides the ones who attacked me?

And now you are a BrestisBest. Great, and now please kindly reffer to last pick. KG.

QuackUp
09-06-06, 09:25
Get into S/P around 8:00 pm.. I'am staying at the Parthenon in Moema which is now called the Mecure hotel in Moema. It is still girl friendly, no charge for guess and it is only 5 minutes away from the airport.

I check in and wait for my buddies to get in. I'am a little hungry since all I had was the lunch at the by the kilo place back in Rio. I walk out the hotel and to my right is a pizza place call Saturno. I noticed it on my last trip because it has a great big brick oven which they cook the pizzas in. Pizzas are not my favorite dinner but since the guys will be here shortly, might as well give it a try.

I got the large pepperoni and it was very good. It is a thin crust pizza and I guess I was more hungry than I thought since I ate half the pizza.

At around 11:00 pm. I got worried since my friends have not showned up yet. They finally arrived at the hotel around midnight. Their flight was delayed and since planes can't land at Congohas after 10:00 pm., they had to go to the int. airport, then bussed into Congohas.

I was just about sleeping when they called. They still wanted to go out so I said let's go to Bahamas. It is in Moema but it might be a little upscaled.

We get to Bahamas around 1:00 am and since it was our first time there, we asked the receptionist what the prices were. It was r$123 to get in with no drinks included. She said the girl asking prices started at r$300 and up. From the doorway I could see some of the hotties inside but my buddies didn't want to come in because of the entry fee and no drinks included.

We told the doorman we would come back tomorrow only we would be there earlier. He said no problem and gave us cards for a free drink when we came back. Pretty cool on his part.

We then went to Akaza. We were there last year and the place was packed with a party going on. What a difference a year makes. Last year the price to get in was r$79 with 8 drinks included. This year r$80 with only two drinks included.

The guys wanted to stay so they could chill and drink some beers. From what I saw, there were only two doable women. One was with a customer, the other with a friend of mine.

To make a long story short, we closed the place down. My friend was going to take the chick back to the hotel but she wouldn't come down from the r$400 she was asking for. At the end we all went home without any company.

I was the first to the cashier when I noticed my bill was more than the r$80. I didn't drink more than my limit so I asked my friend who speaks perfect Portuguese, to ask the cashier why my bill was so much.

The cashier said it was a service fee. I then asked what the heck is a service fee. It turns out, this is a tip for whoever it goes to. The cashier saw my look and then immediately said it is not mandatory and she could take it off. I said yes take it off. In fact everyone took the service fee off but don't worry we still left a tip in cash. Just not an outrageous one. After this, every club we went to we made sure there were no hidden service charges.

Took a quick cab back to the hotel and rested up for day 2 in S/P.........

QuackUp
09-06-06, 09:27
Today one of our members isn't feeling to good so he decides to stay in and sleep. Around 1:00 pm we leave the hotel and head for eu & elas. There was hardly any traffic and when we pulled up something didn't look right.

The place wasn't opened yet. It opens at 3:00 pm.. To kill time we went to the restaurant across the street and had lunch. The lunch was actually pretty good. There were many locals in this restaurant which is always a good sign in my book. For r$11.00 I had a pichana plate which included salad, fries and rice. Very tasty. By the time we finished, it was now 3:10.

We enter the building and the prices are the same as last year. r$79 to get in and r$100 for the girl and r$59 if you use a private room.

They change things up since the last time I was there. The open room is now on the other side of the stairs and where the open room use to be, it is now the mens locker room. The womens lockers are now located upstairs also. It is kind of cool to see the girls changing. They are not bashful in the least.

Besides the pricing, what I like about this club, the feel of an orgy going on. When I took my girl upstairs to the private room, there were two couple in the open room getting it on. When we finished, as we past the open room again, a girl was giving a guy some head.

After going downstairs I went to the bathroom in the back. walking past the movie room where they play constant pornos, I see a girl giving a guy a hand job.

Still going to the bathroom near the sauna, a guy is going down on a girl on those lounge chairs. Then finally, reaching the bathroom, a guy is fucking the shit out of a girl at the hand wash counter. Unreal.

By the way, the girl fee is negotiable but all the girls I took up were more than happy with the r$100.

The girl I took up was probably the same one sexplorer had on his earlier post, Jacqueline. She was wearing a yellow bikini and as sexplorer stated, the girl next door look. A very good session.

By the time my friends got through with their girls, it was now about 9:00. At this point we decided to go back to the hotel and see what was next.

Back at the hotel, the guys didn't want to spend money on a high end place like Photo's or w.e.. They also didn't want to spend money at Bahamas because no drinks were included in the entry fee even though we had free drink coupons.

Since they liked help alot, I suggested love story. I told them it didn't open up until 1:00 a.m.. They like the idea of going to a smaller version of help. They said they would leave around 12:45. I was tired so I told them I would stay at the hotel and rest up.

I didn't see them until the next day when they told me love story didn't open until 4:00 a.m.. I could have sworn the place opened at 1:00 last year.

Anyways, the guys didn't want to wait around so they ended up at Kilts. They said a barker told them it was r$35 to get in and it included two drinks. When they got the bill, not only were they charged the entry fee, but they also got charged for every drink they had. The drinks were not included with the entry. They also said there were some hot women in there and the live sex shows were cool, but they felt very ripped off when it came time to pay the bill. By the way, in the s/p directory, it does state, if you like to drink, don't go to kilts.

KoreanGuy25
09-06-06, 13:17
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Sui Generis
09-06-06, 15:45
Sui Generis and everyone else:

I was thinking for a long time to visit SP but due to the recent not so safe environment in Sampa, I have decided to postpone it till now where I was sticking mostly to Rio. After checking the sites kindly posted in here, I am truly just louco to go to SP. Now, a couple of questions gents:

a) how accurate are the pics of the girls on the above-mentioned sites?

b) How much are the services of these gatas? and for how long? Am I safe to assume it'd be around 2-250/2 hours as it's usually the norm in Brasil?

Valeu. :)

P.S. English speaking gatas are not required, at the very opposite as I do speak Portuguese. ;)

The issue of Rio vs São Paulo is continuous and unending. But I agree with almost everybody that Sampa is far less dangerous than Rio. It is true that there were three or four waves of terror conducted by the PCC since mid May, but it is are relatively quiet and safe right now.

When I was younger, im my early twenties to be more precise, Rio was my by far my favourite destination. But Rio of the early 1980 is not the Rio of today...the crime rate is higher nowadays, more American and European tourists flock to Rio, the beaches are polluted (I wouldn't dare to swim in Copacabana today!!!!), and so on...

São Paulo is a monstruous city...but you can find there fine restaurants, fine hotels, a vigourous intellectual life (museums, shows, bookstores, cinemas, etc.).

Finally, I prefer the GP in Sampa because, in general, there are more good looking and very educated. I know that to some of you it doesn't make a difference if a girl has an university degree or not (sex is the most importan tpoint) but when you spend a TNL a girl with culture and a good conversation is a must for me.In Rio, there is more party girls or B-girls...since I am in my late 40 this is not really my cup of tea...or my glass of pinga I should say!

2- Concerning the accuracy of the pics on the sites. Not all the sites are reliable. As I don't want to do publicity for any of theses sites, the only thing I can tell you is to spot the name of the girl you prefer and do a search on the GP Guia, the most reliable source of information. You can also type her phone number and do a search on the Web...if this number pertains to several girls, beware! this is a scam or what we call a bait'n switch.

In Sampa, the price for a decent girl is between 150R$ and 200R$

QuackUp
09-06-06, 20:34
Today we are going to try something different. Since we went to Somalia in Rio ( see my rio report ) we decided to go to the famous 8 story apartment, which is really 10 stories.

We take the metro and get off on Republica. A short walk later, into the doorway we go. Since none of us had been there before, it was quite exciting to see what awaits us.

As you enter the building a women sitting at a desk waves us in. Up ahead is a spiral staircase. Two steps up and we see the first of many gdp. You walk up one side of the stairs while the girls are up against the wall on the other side of the stairs. It kind of reminds me of the street girls in tj. When you walk past the girls, they grab your shirt or crotch trying to get your attention.

Since I was in front, I just kept walking checking out all the ladies until I reached the 10th floor. Some of my guys were out of shape and needed a rest there. We tried to buy some drinks, but all the lady had was beer. So instead of buying the beers, I gave my guys a little time to catch their breaths and headed down two floors.

On the 8th floor, the lady there had water, beers and sodas. We stop to have a drink on this floor. As we were drinking our refreshments down, we called over one of the girls so she could explain the place.

Basically all the girls have a territory in the building. They cannot go up or down a floor once they have a spot picked out. The going rate is r$1.00 per minute with a 15 minute minimum. She also showed us the small rooms they use. We gave her a small tip and started to walk down.

Up to this point, there were a few douable girls but nothing spectacular. Going back down, I was now at the rear of the gang.

As we were going down, at the corner of my eye I see a beautiful girl coming out of the hallway. This girl was stunning. I called one of my buddies who was in front of me and he agreed, absolutely gorgeous. The way she was dress didn't match the apartment girls, but rather a club girl. She would have been impressive at w.e..

My friend wanted her bad but the other guys were way ahead of us going down. So my friend asked for her phone number and tried to arrange a meeting with her for the next day. She said she would meet at the hotel for r$150 for a couple of hours plus taxi. My friend said he would call her the next day.

I can't remember her name but she told me she is on the 5th floor #2. If you see her, you will know who we are talking about because she just looked so out of place there.

After reaching the bottom, the rest of the guys wanted to know what took us so long. We told them and they still can't believe someone as good looking as her would work in a place like that.

Once away from the 10 story building, we went walking around. After 5 minutes we are in front on the theaters Globo and something else. A couple of my friends were curious so they went in. I stayed outsided because there were two girls outside the theater handing out flyers for the theaters. From far away they looked pretty good, but up close, they looked more manly.

When my friends came out they were smiling. I guess some girl jack them off in the bathroom, at least I hope it was a girl. From there we went to a street called 24 Marzo.

Here the guys did some shopping. Many stores here at reasonable prices.

After the shopping we decided to go back to eu & elas. We got our bracelets and went in. Not one girl from yesterday was here today. That in my opiniow was a good thing.

My first stop was the bathroom. Walking back, I hear my name being called. I look back and it's a girl I met a year ago but did not take up. Her name is Isis. She isn't the prettiest, but she is one of the friendliest. Blond hair and skinny. We got reaquainted and took her up to the private room. She was as good upstairs as she was downstairs.

Talking with all my friends Eu & Elas rates an a+ for perfomance.

After Eu & Elas we headed for dinner at Fogo de Chao. What a great place to eat. Another churasco with impecable service. Once done with dinner three of my buddies were meeting up with the chicks they had just done at e&e. back at the hotel. That left three of us to ponder, what should we do now.

I said lets go to Cafe Gaguin. I never been there and I know some from this board recommended it, so off we went.

QuackUp
09-06-06, 20:36
Once at c/g the receptionist told us it was r$120 to get in and it did include two drinks. I believe she said the rooms were r$80 for the hour.

This place was more like an american strip bar. It was kind of like photo's where the girls can't sit with you unless they are called over to you. I kind of like this method.

The girls here were definitely my type. Tall thin and beautiful. There were about 20 girls in the club and about 15 were my type. First 15 minutes the three of us just relaxed and shot the bull. After that I called over a hottie and again, I can't remember her name.

She was tall, thin, dark and young. She had the look I would have paid anything to have her, but I still negotiated. She wanted r$400 but I told her I wouldn't go higher than r$300. After a while she said okay and we were going to the hotel but first had to pay the bill.

Again the service fee. We told them to take it off and one of the mgrs. came over and said we should tip something. We said we agreed but we would pay the tip in cash. He didn't like that answer but oh well.

Now it is pouring outside but the good news is, the girl has a car. We get to the hotel and because she is so hot, I thought I would get the trophy fuck treatment. Instead, it was a good time from start to finish. She stayed for about 2 hours and I have to admit, she is the hotest girl I have had in Brazil up to this point.

Tomorrow, my date with Ale. Is she for real?

Sperto
09-06-06, 21:13
Kind refferal. Hey man, do you sail your yacht in Sth France of Villa Mimosa in Rio? I bet you have lots of $10 bucks passengers on your Love Rocking Boat?
If I was a billionaire, I would build a channel from Baía de Guanabara all the way to my beloved Vila Mimosa. Then I would sail my big Love-yacht to VM and fill her up with sweet $10 bundas.

Polvo
09-06-06, 22:05
Tomorrow, my date with Ale. Is she for real?Good Man!! This will put everything to bed (excuse the pun)!! And if she is for real - good luck.

Great posts - great lessons.

Polvo

KoreanGuy25
09-07-06, 07:10
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QuackUp
09-07-06, 08:04
Today is the day I'am suppose to meet with koreanguys ale. We were suppose to meet a day before but she had to cancel for whatever reason. I was wondering if she really did exist. The bad news was, because this was the last night in s/p, I told my guys this would be the night we go to at least one high end night club. That meant, if I did see Ale, my time with her would be limited.

I start off the day by going to the mall and having lunch with my buddies. This was kind of a do whatever you want day for all the guys. It was a late lunch and after I went to work out in the hotel gym.

When I got back up to the room I got a call from Ale. She said she had some business to take care of but would be at the hotel at 6:30 pm, when we could go out to dinner. So I took a nap and waited.

At 6:00 I get a call and it is Ale and she is waiting downstairs. I go down and get her and bring her up to the room to get acquainted. She looks just like her pictures and is a very nice person.

About a half hour later, we meet with my friends and we go to dinner. We ended up going to the Jardinera grill. Another fine dinning experience. Ale is a very social person and all my friends were impressed, and we all had a great time at dinner.

Back at the hotel, I told Ale my time was limited because I promise the guys I would take them to a club and since we had newbies , I wanted to keep my promise to them. She actually looked saddened but understood.

She is just as sweet in bed as she is outside of it. I had a great time with her. But now the surprise. Due to some miscommunication, I thought her rate was $500usd for half a day and $1,000 for the whole day. She told me it was $250 per hour including the time we spent at the restaurant.

Now usually in Brazil, the time spent at a restaurant or movie is not counted. In fact when a girl down there says so much for an hour, it isn't a strict hour. Most of the time the hour turns out to be 3 to 4 without any mention of extra pay. Ale scale is more slated to the American pricing. Nothing wrong with that except I'am in Brazil where you can get exceptional value for the dollar.

Do I regret seeing Ale? No, I had a great time with her, I just wish she would adjust her pricing especially in Brazil.

Since time is running out I only had time for one pop. We said our goodbyes and she left. I met up with my guys looking for a highend club to go to.

I do have to mention, she did say if we met up back in L.A. she would make up the time I lost with my friends and she would adjust her pricing a little bit. So if that happens, that would be pretty cool.

QuackUp
09-07-06, 08:06
I decided to take them to w.e.. I had a good time there last year. We get there about 11:30pm and one of the guys in front approaches our taxi and says they are closed. They said it was a slow night and they were closing early. At least they let us know outside instead of paying entrance and then finding out there were hardly any girls there. This still is a class joint.

So we then decided to go to Bomboa's. I haven't been there since they were closed last year. It looks the same. Entrance was r$150 but you could drink up to that amount before getting charged anything extra. Rooms went for r$80 and if you wanted take out, the bar fine was r $100.

You negotiate with the girls and since this was a slow night, most of the girls were happy with r$200.

As it was, there were three girls that I wanted and of course they were with a customer. Later I see them walking out the door with the customers so I guess I'am shit out of luck. All my friends hook up, but for me, it wasn't meant to be.

I do give this club two thumbs up. I did speak to a guy named Vanderly. He speaks English and I told him how my last visit was about 4 years ago. He said he has been with the club the last 2 years. Very friendly guy and for those of you new to Brazil and can't speak the language, he will go out of his way to help you.

We leave the club about 4:00 a.m.. All the guys used the rooms at the club and three of my lucky friends got freebies after we left. The three guys brought their girls back to the hotel and the girls charged them nothing.

I start packing before going to bed as I ponder going back home later that night....

Harry58
09-07-06, 08:22
Does anyone know if Cafe Photo is still open for business?I was there in August. Very very good!

In my opinion the best place in SP.

Harry

QuackUp
09-07-06, 08:36
Last day in Brazil. I had arraigned a meeting with Leticia, I got her number from Sui generis a year ago but ran out of time to see her. Her apartment was just 4 blocks from my hotel and we were to meet at 3:00 pm..

I get there right on time. She offers a drink then a shower. She is another fun girl to be with but my time with her is limited because after our meeting, the last stop before I go to the airport is Bahamas with the guys.

The reason why I wanted to see her was because of the report she was a squirter. I had one girl in tj who was a squirter and let me tell you, if you have a squirter, it's like being in your own porno movie but better.

Alas, I'am not the man Sui is, I couldn't get her to squirt. She did get plenty wet though and again she was alot of fun to be with. I only stay with her for an hour and when I went to shower she wanted me back on the bed after.

I told her I had to go so she gave me her email address because she said she was getting out of this business and would soon be changing her number. She said she only gave out her email address to people she liked. True or not, it made me feel good. Thanks Sui for the recommendation.

I get back to the hotel, gather my friends and head off to Bahamas. It is roughly 4:45 when we get there. I can stay there no later than 6:15 so I can pick up my luggage and head to the airport.

Once inside of Bahamas, there are about 15 girls there. It is still early. At least 7 were my type with one being very hot. Since this was the first time there I wanted to check out the facilities. There are at least two floors to walk around with the lockers being downstairs and pool table and bar upstairs. I believe the rooms are somewhere up above so there must be three floors.

My buddy had the hots for the hottie so I let him hook up with her. I went walking around flirting with alot of the girls not sure if I wanted to go upstairs or not. Leticia took care of my urges earlier.

Finally another hottie comes from downstairs to the bar area upstairs. I didn't see her the first time so she must have just started work. Bad news is, it is now 5:40, less than an hour to go. We spoke for a little while, made out for a little while and she asked if I wanted to go to the room.

I told I wanted to but I only had a half hour to go before I had to leave. She said no problem, she would take care of me. I told her no, I like to take my time especially in the company of a beautiful woman like her.

She must have liked what I said because the next half hour, we just made out like horny little teenagers. Just dfking her was worth the price of admission. This was a great way to end my trip without getting laid. Before I left, since I had a great time with her, I gave her r$20.00 as a tip.

I checked the bill, no service charge. Next time in s/p, this will be a regular stop for me. One last add, the hottie with my friend, asked and wouldn't go lower than r$400.00. Not sure what the regular pricing is but that seemed a little high especially being so early in the night. Maybe someone can inform us what the going rate at Bahamas should be.

So it ended here. Had an uneventful trip to the airport, and an uneventful trip back home. Until next year....

KoreanGuy25
09-07-06, 10:02
1) All my friends were impressed !!!

2) We all had a great time !

3) She is just as sweet in bed as she is outside of it !

4) I had a great time with her !

5) I do have to mention, she did say if we met up back in L.A. she would make up the time I lost with my friends and she would adjust her pricing a little bit. So if that happens, that would be pretty cool.Hey,

So, at least there is one happy monger came back with good memories and hoping to repeat?

In my book - it means she is the best!

KoreanGuy25

Breast Is Best
09-07-06, 11:23
stayed in very nice hotel in jardins 2 nights ago. nice place. had my two ladies (sadly can not disclose identities as neither do this other than with a few guys--i met them through a guy i know in sp who knew one of them as a kid) arrive right on queue. no photos but by way of general salutation i just share with you these thoughts/flashes of memory on why this country rocks.

-within 3 minutes of getting in the door the 2 hotties were properly making out with each other draped right over me.

-within 4 minutes my dick was where it needed to be, getting orally administered.

-at same time lots of three way dfk.

-ever had a champagne blow job? me neither until one of the ladies took the initiative and cracked it open from the mini-bar and blew me with mouthfuls of champagne but making sure she passed every drop me me by dfk as it warmed up.

-oh. and this is all happening in the living room of the suite. we've not made it to the bedroom yet.

-and then on into the bedroom where it just goes nuts girls down on each other, me, me on them, every combination and permutation, all getting v steamy but having a huge amount of fun too, laughing a joking lots especially when one of the girls finishes her beer, gives me the most mischevious look and starts fucking her friend with it.

-i get ongoing oral attention from both at same time with much eye contact.

-one of the honnies asks me to fuck her in the ass. and the other complains (i swear to god! ) that she wants it on her face. i opt for the latter and oblige in what looks like an industrial yoghurt accident.

-the bodies on these 2 were genuine porn star material and one has the most magnificent pair of natural tits you have ever seen in your life.

-and so it continued for about 3 hours and all in a spirit of great fun with much laughter and respect. i mean guys. this place. when god rested on the 7th day i'm sure he woke up on the 8th and said. '. man i forgot something. '

at the end of the session one of the girls (who is a friend i've seen a bunch of times) insists she wants to hang out for the weekend with me in buenos aires. no fees at all but i of course offer to cover her airfare. she spends all the next morning trying to get a flight but can't as its national holiday weekend in brazil and flights back on sunday are impossible so we call it a day. we're both genuinely sad not to be able to send more time together. she is such a honey.

you can keep columbia, russia, czech rep, thailand and anywhere else on this planet man. this country is ground zero.

Bubba Boy
09-07-06, 13:44
But I agree with almost everybody that Sampa is far less dangerous than Rio.
Just to qualify this statement. Sampa is just as dangerous as Rio but the difference is most of the trouble occurs away from the areas you are likely to stay in Sampa. Rio is a strange city in that the wealthier suburbs are surrounded by favelas which in turn, because of the related poverty, bring crime to the areas a tourist is most likely to stay. Sampa has the more normal city layout in that there are nice middle/upper class areas away from the slums and hence just as safe as a normal suburb in a big American city.

Sui Generis: I am in no way criticising your post, your posts are excellent, I am just illustrating the difference to those that may have only travelled to Rio or Sampa and not both.

KoreanGuy25
09-07-06, 14:05
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Bubba Boy
09-07-06, 17:04
that she wants it on her face. I opt for the latter and oblige in what looks like an industrial yoghurt accident.


That is one of the funniest things I have heard in a long time. Nice post.

Breast Is Best
09-07-06, 17:27
I tell you Bubba..it was a magnificent moment..when my whole life flashes before my eyes. That may well be the final 'fade' shot in the movie reel of my memory.

On a slightly different topic. Anyone got any suggestions for Rio on Sunday night? I have a lay-over there and want to go large before flying home.

Sui Generis
09-07-06, 17:48
Just to qualify this statement. Sampa is just as dangerous as Rio but the difference is most of the trouble occurs away from the areas you are likely to stay in Sampa. Rio is a strange city in that the wealthier suburbs are surrounded by favelas which in turn, because of the related poverty, bring crime to the areas a tourist is most likely to stay. Sampa has the more normal city layout in that there are nice middle/upper class areas away from the slums and hence just as safe as a normal suburb in a big American city.

Sui Generis: I am in no way criticising your post, your posts are excellent, I am just illustrating the difference to those that may have only travelled to Rio or Sampa and not both.

Hey BB!

I totally agree with you...my comments, peremptory and bombastic as they may sound, need qualifications sometimes. (Anyway I like criticism...being a professional philosopher I can live without it!) Lol.

You're absolutely right, outside the middle/upper class areas it can be very risky for a gringo to go there. Last year I visited the brother of a friend of mine (she does her Ph.D in Montreal) in the Fim de Semana favela. As you can imagine I wasn't alone. I wouldn't go there by myself...too scary man!

On the other hand, I walked alone at 3h00am in Jardins and Pinheiros. But all things considered, today I think that I was not very "bright" to do so...even if I am built like an American running back, ya know..a gun (um berro!) is a gun.

I bought my ticket this morning. I'll be in SP the first half of November.

Bubba Boy
09-07-06, 18:17
Not to mention the Police executions they had a few months back. Again, for the benefit of newcomers and casual readers, in an hour 30 Police were killed in different places around the city in a very well cordinated set of attacks. Some were just blown away while at roadblocks, some were killed at or around stations. The same thing repeated itself over the last few months, less Police were killed becuase they were somewhat prepared on those nights. Scary shit.

Polvo
09-07-06, 21:53
In my book - it means she is the best!

Well, speculation is put to rest, except for a question that nags me.


I thought her rate was $500usd for half a day and $1,000 for the whole day. She told me it was $250 per hour including the time we spent at the restaurant.Is the US $500 and US$ 1000 accurate for the time quoted or is it more?

Polvo

P.S. More power to Quackup, not only can he write - he can afford, and is happy, to buy quality. Lucky man.

Genghis Khan
09-08-06, 07:49
I know this might sound strange coming from me, but I will try to explain why that post made me speculate even more than before.

US $500 for half a day or US $1000 for the whole day is not a rate normally charged by freelancers who don't have a known name or have a spread in a magazine in Brazil. It could very well be a reasonable price for her in the US, but once she is back in Brazil her market value will drop. Freelancers without a magazine spread or a known name charging this much in Brazil usually have to pay a fee to a pimp/madame or club. That is part of the reason why the prices are at that level.

This girl might have a magazine spread or be a semi-celebrity, but we have not been informed of this. She might also be working out of a club or from a pimp/madame, but we have not been informed of this either. If that was the case I would like to be in personal contact with the pimp/madame/club every time I wanted company from this girl. That way I could work up a personal relationship with her boss and that could lead to discounts or improved service in the future.

I certainly agree that she looks good from the photos posted and it seems that Quackup had a good time with her but my radar would really be on high alert on this one, especially since she changed her price to a higher one after they were finished without informing of this before the session.

GK

QuackUp
09-08-06, 08:07
Maybe this will explain a little more about why I took a chance with ale. I live in L.A. and I figured if I met up with ale in Brazil, when she came back to L.A., I could have that gfe right in my back yard. At $250 an hour in L.A., that is pretty reasonable.

I tried to stress the money was more than I usually pay in Brazil. Gk, it was from your great reports I found w.e. and last year when I went, I paid r$800. At the time I thought that was alot. But the bottom line was, on both occassions I had a great time.

Like I stress to my friends who came along with me on this trip, no regrets. I do have to admit, if ale doesn't change her pricing in Brazil, there are too many alternatives to turn to.

Hope this helps.

Q

KoreanGuy25
09-08-06, 12:31
I know this might sound strange coming from me, but I will try to explain why that post made me speculate even more than before.

US $500 for half a day or US $1000 for the whole day is not a rate normally charged by freelancers who don't have a known name or have a spread in a magazine in Brazil. It could very well be a reasonable price for her in the US, but once she is back in Brazil her market value will drop. Freelancers without a magazine spread or a known name charging this much in Brazil usually have to pay a fee to a pimp/madame or club. That is part of the reason why the prices are at that level.

This girl might have a magazine spread or be a semi-celebrity, but we have not been informed of this. She might also be working out of a club or from a pimp/madame, but we have not been informed of this either. If that was the case I would like to be in personal contact with the pimp/madame/club every time I wanted company from this girl. That way I could work up a personal relationship with her boss and that could lead to discounts or improved service in the future.

I certainly agree that she looks good from the photos posted and it seems that Quackup had a good time with her but my radar would really be on high alert on this one, especially since she changed her price to a higher one after they were finished without informing of this before the session.

GKAgree on most except,

In Quackups PM I understood that money was not an issue.

So I felt comfortable to give him her email address.

I expain several time her background and said She is not Cheap ! Well can you just read my PM to him , and if I made this up, then Ask Jackson to pull this from the server records.

I would ask you and quackup to hold your breath !

Because my next extensive post is about Her market value

And whether it will drop as you requesting ?

So, in my first post I did explain her background work,

so thats takes care of a magazine and madame issue..

I explained that she is an International High End, and not Brazilian,

She does not need a Pimp. It’s a different species. Its not the honeys from 8th story building.

She is above Pimps, Bahamas, WE and other local establishments. She is International!

The real one that travels and not the one who advertise as “Will travel… etc”, That’s why you all start tripping when I showed her photos around the world… You did not trust me that she Fluently speaks several languages. She makes all the money to her self, and she invests in property and bulls.

She is very intelligent, that’s why we enjoy to be with her and we happily pay as Quackup say’s. As I said she travels in Any directions with me or Alone. And about High Alert I would not bother at all because here is the deal, that I agree with Quackup before he left on his trip :

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PM from KoreanGuy25 to Quackup

KoreanGuy25
Regular Member
Reports: 40
Private Message:
Re: contact info.
08-23-06 at 18:49
Quackup,
I know that she only meet a few guys a month, So in SP I can get her for 500usd /12 hr,
but if YOU invite here than its by day...
Also I don’t think she ever charge less than 250us / hr,
with 2 hr minimum including a delivery. Here is her email address… Send me a review afterwards, ok ?
KoreanGuy25
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And about Quackups dream of screwing her in his LA backyard. Please read the following post, because she is indeed coming to LA in a month! For 3 months stay till Dec.

And also Quackup, You told me you hiding that photo you took in the restorante with your amigos, can you just crop it and let us see how she looked that night? Don't worry, its not gonna cost you a penny.

KoreanGuy25

Bubba Boy
09-08-06, 12:36
it seems that Quackup had a good time with her but my radar would really be on high alert on this one, especially since she changed her price to a higher one after they were finished without informing of this before the session.GK

I would be on more than high alert. The whole thing with KG promoting her and her being way over the money on pricing leads me to think the whole thing is a scam. Kudos to quackup for giving her a "test run" but other than novelty value there are much better options on Sampa.

Genghis Khan
09-08-06, 12:45
Maybe this will explain a little more about why I took a chance with ale. I live in L.A. and I figured if I met up with ale in Brazil, when she came back to L.A., I could have that gfe right in my back yard. At $250 an hour in L.A., that is pretty reasonable.

I tried to stress the money was more than I usually pay in Brazil. Gk, it was from your great reports I found w.e. and last year when I went, I paid r$800. At the time I thought that was alot. But the bottom line was, on both occassions I had a great time.

Like I stress to my friends who came along with me on this trip, no regrets. I do have to admit, if ale doesn't change her pricing in Brazil, there are too many alternatives to turn to.

Hope this helps.

Q

Quackup,

If you think she was worth it, I don't think anybody can blame you for anything. My high alert has got nothing to do with you or what you did. In fact I find it very helpful that you in fact tried her and gave your feedback here. Everything you did is fully understandable as she looks very good from those pictures.

My high alert is raised towards Ale and KoreanGuy25. The high price, her increased pricing after the session and the agressive "advertising" on this board is what makes me react to this.

Thanks for helping us out to understand,
GK

Kwmartin
09-08-06, 14:20
First let me say thank you for your reports, both here and in the Rio forum. I found them to be insightful and well written. I will read them again when I finally make my trip down to Brazil.

As to KG and Ale, after his third or fourth post pimping this girl. I began to have an un-easy feeling about this. nothing I have read to date has changed that feeling. Thank you for giving her a twirl and taking one for the team. Kwm

KoreanGuy25
09-08-06, 14:55
Today is the day I'am suppose to meet with koreanguys ale. The bad news was, because this was the last night in s/p, I told my guys this would be the night we go to at least one high end night club. That meant, if I did see Ale, my time with her would be limited.

At 6:00 I get a call and it is Ale and she is waiting downstairs. I go down and get her and bring her up to the room to get acquainted.

She looks just like her pictures and is a very nice person.

About a half hour later, we meet with my friends and we go to dinner. We ended up going to the Jardinera grill. Another fine dinning experience.

Ale is a very social person and all my friends were impressed, and we all had a great time at dinner.

Back at the hotel, I told Ale my time was limited because I promise the guys I would take them to a club and since we had newbies , I wanted to keep my promise to them. She actually looked saddened but understood.

She is just as sweet in bed as she is outside of it.

I had a great time with her.

But now the surprise. Due to some miscommunication, I thought her rate was $500usd for half a day and $1,000 for the whole day. She told me it was $250 per hour including the time we spent at the restaurant.

Now usually in Brazil, the time spent at a restaurant or movie is not counted. In fact when a girl down there says so much for an hour, it isn't a strict hour. Most of the time the hour turns out to be 3 to 4 without any mention of extra pay.

Ale scale is more slated to the American pricing. Nothing wrong with that except I'am in Brazil where you can get exceptional value for the dollar.

Do I regret seeing Ale? No, I had a great time with her, I just wish she would adjust her pricing especially in Brazil.

Since time is running out I only had time for one pop. We said our goodbyes and she left. I met up with my guys looking for a highend club to go to.

I do have to mention, she did say if we met up back in L.A. she would make up the time I lost with my friends and she would adjust her pricing a little bit. So if that happens, that would be pretty cool.After detailed examination of this post, I determine that you are an honest about Ale being a 10 +++ and that is because you praise her more than any other girl in your trip! In addition, I do not remember hearing so much good stuff about a provider for a while on this forum.

However, I would have to disagree and would like to discuss the service fee issue as follows:




Today is the day I'am suppose to meet with koreanguys ale.
if I did see Ale, my time with her would be limited.
==>> At 6:00, I get a call and it is Ale and she is waiting downstairs.

1) She looks just like her pictures and is a very nice person.
2) Ale is a very social person and all my friends were impressed,
3) We all had a great time at dinner.
4) She is just as sweet in bed as she is outside of it.
5) I had a great time with her.

But now the surprise. Due to some miscommunication (on your part Mr. Q! read my PM to you, below!) I thought her rate was $500usd for half a day and $1,000 for the whole day. She told me it was $250 per hour including the time we spent at the restaurant.

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LOOK MY PM TO YOU !

PM from KoreanGuy25 to Quackup

KoreanGuy25
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Reports: 40
Private Message:
Re: contact info.
08-23-06 at 18:498
-23-06 at 18:49

I know that she only meet a few guys a month, so in SP I can get her for 500usd /12 hr, But if YOU invite here than it’s by day. Also I don’t think she ever charge less than 250us / hr,

With 2 hr minimum including a delivery. Here is her email address.
Send me a review afterwards, ok ?

KoreanGuy25
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Now usually in Brazil, the time spent at a restaurant or movie is not counted. In fact, when a girl down there says so much for an hour, it is not a strict hour. (That is not correct, she don’t own you anything, only if she have a good time and enjoy)

Most of the time, the hour turns out to be 3 to 4 without any mention of extra pay.
(I WOULD HAVE TO DISAGREE, BECAUSE I DO NOT SEE THIS AS USUAL ENCOUNTER OF YOU OR YOUR COWORKERS)

Ale scale is more slated to the American pricing. (Did you mean East LA Hookers by comparing a 10 +++ Stunner to them?)

Nothing wrong with that except I am in Brazil where you can get exceptional value for the dollar.

(Definitely aware of an 8 story building where you got that special treatment for)

Do I regret seeing Ale? No, I had a great time with her; I just wish she would adjust her pricing especially in Brazil.

(Read on)

Since time is running out, I only had time for one pop (how long for pop?). We said our goodbyes and she left. I met up with my guys looking for a high-end club to go to.

I do have to mention, she did say if we met up back in L.A. she would make up the time I lost with my friends and she would adjust her pricing a little bit. So if that happens, that would be pretty cool.

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Ok, So you were going to pay her US$40 per hour for ==>> (She is just as sweet in bed as she is outside of it.)

And US$80 for another 2 hours at the restaurant for -->> (Ale is a very social person and all my friends were impressed, we all had a great time)

Because the way you calculate $500 divide by 12 hours and for the price of 1 hour or $40 bucks you would use her for 3 - 4 hours, and you would think that its OK, and there is no reason to negotiate or get in to Verbal Agreement, not only about fuck, but also about pay! Therefore, did you actually intended to use her for 3-4 hours and pay for one hour?

And wanted tryed an old trick to ask afterwards ? And you estimated it would be reasonable to give her FORTY BUCKS for 3-4 hours with you. She said it was a rainy day, traffic jam at 6PM (your request) so it was 1+1 more hours for her for the road. A total of 5-6 hours of her time, you wanted to buy for Forty bucks?

Read on,

Koreanguy25

Breast Is Best
09-08-06, 16:44
Maybe I'm tuned into a different frequency here but..erm..is it not painfully obvious that 'KoreanGuy' and Ale are one and the same?

I really don't think one needs to be a Nobel prize winner to figure that one out.

Frankly I don't have a religious view on this practice but I do get bummed by all the bad juju. Its like everyone and anyone getting it in the neck from a mamasan in Manila everytime someone queries Ale! Enough already, surely?

Bubba Boy
09-08-06, 16:48
Q. What is the difference between a $10 "h**ker" and a $1000 "h**ker" "?

A. Supply and demand.


Quite simply the supply of girls in Sampa far outweighs the demand of mongers willing to pay western rates. The only way a girl like "ale" would get that much money in sampa would be if some guy promoted the shit out of her on a gringo only board. No Brazilian would be silly enough to put up with her crap for that cash. The true well travelled Brazilian working girls don't work in Brasil, why the hell would they bother when they can earn 300 euros an hour in Europe.

KoreanGuy25
09-08-06, 17:03
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KoreanGuy25
09-08-06, 17:36
Quackup,

If you think she was worth it, I don't think anybody can blame you for anything. My high alert has got nothing to do with you or what you did. In fact I find it very helpful that you in fact tried her and gave your feedback here. Everything you did is fully understandable as she looks very good from those pictures.

My high alert is raised towards Ale and KoreanGuy25. The high price, her increased pricing after the session and the agressive "advertising" on this board is what makes me react to this.

Thanks for helping us out to understand,

GKI think that it would be reasonable for her and it would make sense to ask at least US $ 250 an hour with 2 hour minimum, (this is what Bahamas Garota will cost you) only in Bahamas you use their facilities / cabins and in this case you enjoy her in the privacy of your hotel. Therefore, it is reasonable. In addition, for mongers it would make sense to give a US $ 1, 000 for the whole 24 hours. Again, that is very reasonable and not expensive at all for Sao Paulo or LA. Lets see, if you spend US $ 1, 000 (you go out together, she entertains your friends, all go eat, drink, sex, sleep, whatever). And for a pleasure to with a Best rated girl, like that a 10+, You would Use her for 24 hours and you divided $1, 000 by 24 hours = US $41 So, for $41 Bucks Quackup (no offence), offered to Princess, a pleasure of his company for two hours in the restaurant by impressing his co-workers with her unique Entertainment Qualities, Fluent English, and Exotic Beauty. Then he expected the FUN to continue to his hotel.

Where in deed he also Expected and Received! Form her the best 2 hours of fucking memories of his trip. In addition, the guy proposing that a Lady should stay a total of 3-4 hours (hey man, it would be nice, but it's not a rule, if she enjoy with you, its different! Also, how old are you? )

For a filthy $41 bucks. He says its normal in Brazil and it looks like about $10 bucks an hour. Hey all, Am I wrong in my calculations? And if I'm correct, then the guy just really insulted the Lady with his offer and also he did that after he ask her to suddenly go home. (Did not negotiate and agree on the plan and the cost beforehand and did not tell her what to expect) On the other hand he already knewthat he has other obligations to go to Bahamas with his coworkers. That means, that he intended to:

1) Meet with her,
2) Take her to his room to get acquainted,
3) Go with her to the restaurant (so that she will impress all friends, as his pray and food was so good discussing the followed and expected GFE, Hey man, they all must have been drooling, Isn’t that truth? I know, they did! She saw their looks! )
4) Impress his coworkers,
5) Walk together
6) Come back to hotel,
7) He made his pop as he said, by screwing the shit out of her,
8) Then, he sends her home with $41 bucks and 4 hours later…
Unfortunately, $41 would not even cover her taxi cost. However she did not bought his “Surprise”. In addition, he looked sad.

One of Quackup, poor friends whom paid are$400 for a mechanical Bahamas Garota (No Engleso) plus at least another are $150 + for fees ended up very happy. Therefore, I see that the friend spend (are $ 550) or US $250 for a 1 hour Bahamas adventure, and that is normal. I do not consider it is a Big time spender, but rather Ok and he have a good memory for a lifetime. For the guy it was a high-end club, but comparing the girls there with my Lady, you will not find a comparable. Because I do not remember any monger here, who describes any lady in Sao Paulo or Rio with similar qualities, incredible GEE and get an A+++ rating. In Quackup recent post, he described the 8 story building filthy *****s. The poor guys do not know that he was in Somalia. People are being killed there very often, Ask locals! You will see. So if a Mr. Big Spender paid US $ 30 for an hour with the dirtiest hook's of Sao Paulo in the 8 story building (converted to 10) and in the War Zone, with military presence around the buildings and snipers on the roofs. He decided that it would be reasonable to pay US $ 11 (eleven bucks more) for a company of my referral. In addition, by doing so, he intended to slide in to a category of big spenders, sort of like: Sao Paul02, TitsIsForLess, Majik David, etc. All these guys are a "One - Man - Show" of a monger who is as he describes himself as big shot and been to Brazil 18 times. You know dude, I been to Brazil more then 18 times. More over, I am a Brazilian Resident. And having more than 18 trips under my belt, I can say - Eu falo Umpoku ge Portuguese, and I don't ever look for English speaking garotas to Help me use Her. Like some does. When I go for 2 weeks down there, I generally spend about 10 grand. In addition, Breastisbest can you please post some picks from so called high rolling party at Fasano. Or on the 19 Th trip to Brazil you accidentally forgot your camera? Yeh right, No Fasano, No party, No Yacht in St. Frances because he have Nada. Just about 5 aliases and a wild imagination.

So, Quackup, do you still wanted to pay her $250 for incredible 1 hour fuck in LA, huh?

In the market, where we call any cheap escort and they show up requesting US $250 for just walk in the door. If we want any striping action, it would be $100 more and if he wants intercourse, well its Illegal in California and you WILL end up in Los Angeles County Jail. Downtown, you know? So he cannot get that Beauty here even for 1 or 2 Grand in LA! (moreover he can face an attemp for soliciting a prostitution with some very undesireble results. So I would ask him to stay put! ). Quackup must be thinking that he is a good negotiator, right? So, how about my instructions about the cost of the deal in the PM that I send to him, but he still just tried to pull the fast one. Why don't he go to BA and start negotiating with Jackson's girls at the Mansion? For pennies on the dollar? Do you think, you will create some nice memories doing that? Ok, here is my recommendation; you find me a COMPARABLE (means apple to apple and not sausage to banana) quality Brazilian Garota in Sao Paulo for US $41 (Total 3-4 Hours, Everything included) or in LA for $250 per hour of intercourse! (And I do understand How horny we get sometimes (because we live in the sex prison), so he would probably stick in her as hard and as much as his 60 minutes allow him to stick in her. In addition, he would be incredibly happy to humiliate an Intelligent, Sweet, and Beautiful lady in LA for filthy $250 bucks.) Then he would introduce her to his co-workers, and Quackup think it would show them that he is a part of a Superior and smart Specie's? I don't think he have a chance, Amigo's. So I wish he were selling some part of his body one day, you never know. Then the buyers will negotiate and offer him the same price as 8-story building with cheapest ***** prices. Then I hope he will understand a power of negotiation in Big Deals, and he will pay, - AND HE WILL GET WHAT HE PAID FOR! Now, if you still want to make that deal with Ale in LA or NY, Paris, Seoul, Tokyo or any other location, please let me know. It will be 1 hour of a companionship in any upscale place for US $1, 000 and no SEX! , Plus the shipping and gifts. What about that for a quality time? But then again, there is always East LA OR dirty hookers of streets of TJ or Somalia or VM.

All, Do not ever bother me with her info, cause you will not get any.

KoreanGuy25

Genghis Khan
09-08-06, 17:50
I think KG's posts below quite clearly shows that his involvement in this has got to be more than just a recomendation of Ale. Why would he put all that effort into promoting her and defending her if she was just a recomendation?

About every other guy on this board knows that the chemistry between the girls and the mongers are important for getting a good time. So no girls in Sampa is a guaranteed good experience. It depends on the chemistry.

KG is coming on so strong and never highlights this aspect. He is rather trying to defend her faults instead of as other members honestly do simply state that your milage might vary.

GK

Sperto
09-08-06, 17:53
After detailed examination of this post, I determine that you are an honest about Ale being a 10 +++ and that is because you praise her more than any other girl in your trip! In addition, I do not remember hearing so much good stuff about a provider for a while on this forum.
Koreanguy25
"Provider"? Who is the provider? Ale who is offering her services to an outrageous price, or is it you that provide us with Ale and the other girls? If it's the last option I would say that "provider" is equal to pimp.

The day I'll need a "provider" for helping me find a expensive pro in Brazil, will also be the day I'll need a map to show me where to find a sandy spot on the beach.

Genghis Khan
09-08-06, 17:56
In addition, I do not remember hearing so much good stuff about a provider for a while on this forum.


That is a lot of bullshit!!! If you think that a girl raising her price after the session is completed is good stuff - I think you need to learn how this business works in Sampa - my friend!



And US$80 for another 2 hours at the restaurant for -->> (Ale is a very social person and all my friends were impressed, we all had a great time)


Shouldn't be paid additional according to normal Sampa standards if Quackup paid for the dinner.



She said it was a rainy day, traffic jam at 6PM (your request) so it was 1+1 more hours for her for the road. A total of 5-6 hours of her time, you wanted to buy for Forty bucks?


Shouldn't be paid additional according to normal Sampa standards. It is not Quackup's fault it is a rainy day with heavy traffic either.

GK

KoreanGuy25
09-08-06, 18:18
EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted in accordance with the Forum's Zero Tolerance policy regarding reports containing any personal attacks or derogatory comments directed towards another Forum Member or the Forum Membership in general.

Genghis Khan
09-08-06, 18:19
I explained that she is an International High End, and not Brazilian,

She does not need a Pimp. It’s a different species. Its not the honeys from 8th story building.

She is above Pimps, Bahamas, WE and other local establishments. She is International!
KoreanGuy25

Noen of this increases her market value above normal levels in Brazil.

GK

Kwmartin
09-08-06, 19:23
46 post all about one girl. even with my short time on this board, that has got to be a record. Kwm

Bubba Boy
09-09-06, 03:12
I personally think Jackson does an excellent job, under sometimes difficult circumstances, but really there should be some policy just to ban posters like KG.

Genghis Khan
09-09-06, 03:52
First - there is something you don't understand. You are trying to push an "international girl" with "international pricing" in Sao Paulo - Brazil. This must be a top five city in the world as far as price vs. performance/beauty is conserned. US or Euro pricing doesn't apply here unless you have something special that makes your market value rise in Brazil (not in Europe or the US).

Second - you are trying to convert her price into an hourly rate. In Brazil the hourly rate is commonly dropped when you go for a longer session. They normally have several rates - hourly, several hours and TLN. The competition among the girls in Sao Paulo is hard. So if she senses that the customer has got a good time with her, she will not be strict about the time. One or two hours agreed time will then normally lead into several hours if the customers want to.

Third - you don't pay for her time during dinner if you pay for the meal.

Fourth - you pay what a taxi would cost to your location. You don't spend time with her during transportation, so you don't pay the hourly rate for that time.

Fifth - you never charge a customer USD in Brazil.

Sixth - what you get for your prices at Bahamas or any other high end club is as you correctly put it access to their facilities but you forgot one important aspect. If you don't have a good time with the girls, you have the opportunity to made a complaint with the manager at club. If the chemistry doesn't match with Ale and the performance isn't up to my expectations, where do I make a complaint to get some money back or a discount on my next girl - to you?????

Seventh - if you took the time to read the posts on this forum you would find many girls even more highly recomended than Ale by other members. We don't operate with a fixed rating system here. So it could possible be that nobody has rated their girl an A+++, but if you read the actual reports written on them you will find many more girls not charging for time spent during meals, time spent during transportation and certainly not raising the price without prior notice after the session is completed. These facts actually doesn't make this even a GFE in my opinion. She might provide a GFE in bed, but there is more to it than that.

...and for the record - after this I am quite sure not that many from this forum would want to be with her. So don't worry about that. You can have your diamond all by yourself!

GK

Buko Max
09-09-06, 04:12
I personally think Jackson does an excellent job, under sometimes difficult circumstances, but really there should be some policy just to ban posters like KG.
KG25 was just banned so good riddance.

Polvo
09-10-06, 01:04
Quackup:

Just want to let you know that I have no issue with what ever sum you, or anybody, decides to pay anybody at any time, although I do agree that for a second round Ale would have to be exceptional to overcome the local Brazilian competition. (LA is a different matter - and doesn't the US suck for this hobby!!)

Again, great writing and thanks for sharing!

Polvo

Sui Generis
09-10-06, 03:34
I do agree that for a second round Ale would have to be exceptional to overcome the local Brazilian competition. (LA is a different matter - and doesn't the US suck for this hobby!!)

Polvo

Polvo, I fully agree with ya....

My home town, Montreal, is considered by many connoisseurs as one of the best places in the world for our hobby. But it doesn't compare with Brazil in terms of YMMV (your mileage may vary). Even if most of the girls in Montreal (especially the French Canadians) are very liberal and offer GFE service they don't «stop the clock» like the Brazilians GDP do. Brazilians GDP are not «clock watcher». If a Brazilian GDP feel confortable with you, you can stay with her (free of charge) as long as you want (or as long as she want to stay with you).

Then I concur with Polvo that Ale's behaviour detonates with the practice in Brazil. But the most importrant thing is that Quackup had a good time.

QuackUp
09-10-06, 05:40
To Polvo and everyone else. Don't worry I didn't take offense to what you wrote, in fact it sounded like you were defended me. Thank you.

I just wanted to give everyone a better picture of why I took a chance with Ale. In L.A., her prices are more than reasonable. In Brazil, that's a whole different ballgame. Since I was in s/p anyways, I figured if I met her here, at least I would have the hook up back in L.A.. It looks like it doesn't matter now. But like I told all my friend that I took to Brazil, whatever we do, no regrets.

This will be the last comment on this issue from me. Time to move on.

Thanks,
Q

Member 9578
09-10-06, 05:51
I am sure anyone that goes to Brasil only wont worry about it.

To put out some good vibes, I think American Show is still a great deal. Rates are still under R200, and I think for an alternitive to Bahamas and Kazaa its great.

In Sao Paulo supply is so high no need to fret with one provider, Ale is not all that lots of girls that would blow her out the water.

Kos

Komakino
09-10-06, 13:05
This is my first time posting a question on the Brazil board. I've spent most of my mongering time in China. Latin America is totally new to me, so I appreciate your advice.

Questions:

1) You're in SP for 12 hours, have a hotel room, what do you do for in-room massage by the airport?

2) You're in SP for one Saturday night? You have hotel room. What is your night's itinerary?

3) Any Asian (Korean, Japanese) massage style places in SP?

Thanks in advance for your help. Promise to respond with good post-trip post.

Argio
09-10-06, 13:22
I've seen a number of reports on here about these two clinicas, some who disagree. I went to both this past week, and thought I'd add my 2 cents.

Berrini is easy to get to, and has a nice staff, but the girls are only in the 5-8 range. Also, the facilities are old, not very clean, and there's kind of an assembly line atmosphere. I had one session with one girl, who was very nice, but didn't do BBBJ. I forget the cost, maybe $129R

Kin, on the other hand, is the best clinic I have ever been to, bar none. I've been to Antares, Ameri-Center, Aneesh, etc. First of all, the prices were great. $120R/hr for one girl, $160R/hr for 2....and when you see all the girls (all 7-10 range) you ask yourself "why WOULDN'T I take 2 for just $40R more?!?", so I did.

The first session was with 2 girls (names I forget), who were incredibly hot and fun, each taking turns giving long BBBJ's. But the second session on Saturday afternoon was even better. I had Jessica and Luana and they created the best threesome of my life. The first half hour was a double BBBJ, during which they kissed, worked each side in coordinated action, and even fought over "junior". Then Luana decided to eat Jessica out, wich came as a suprise to me.

Things only improved wit the fucking. Unlike most duplas, where the girls simply take turns either riding, or watching....these two fully participated in the action at all times. When one was riding me from up top, the other was massaging the base of my dick, my legs, etc. DFK's all the while.

After the second pop, I looked around the room (the master sala, which is huge, clean and very classy) and quickly surmised that I would probably not find a better pair of girls, in a better room, for a better rate, at any other place in SP, so I bought another hour for another $160R. Money well spent as these two did not "coast". They spent an amazing 30 minutes on another double BBBJ.

So, I think my vote is clear. Prior to Kin, I'd gotten 2 BBBJ's in about 14 visits to other clinicas. At Kin, I got BBBJ's from 4 out of 4 girls. I definately recommend!

QuackUp
09-11-06, 09:01
First off, thanks euro100 for thinking my reports were good enough for r.o.d.. I know I don't write as well as you and the countless others but I apprecitate it.

Last add for my s/p report. I forgot, since alot of us use credit card at the clubs, I just wanted to warn you that some clubs charge a riducules fee to use them. At least two, Cafe Gaguin and Club Bahamas will let you use the c/c for everything but the girls. If you do need to use your c/c at these clubs for the girls, they add on a 30% fee for that portion.

So now, not only look for the service fee I wrote about in my reports, but also this extra high fee to use your c/c. It's probably better to get a cash advance and pay the girl in cash.

Q

Polvo
09-11-06, 15:46
If you do need to use your c/c at these clubs for the girls, they add on a 30% fee for that portion.

So now, not only look for the service fee I wrote about in my reports, but also this extra high fee to use your c/c. It's probably better to get a cash advance and pay the girl in cash. QThere is an increasing amount of card scamming going on - typically by cloning/swiping in an authorised card reader. In South America, now, I would recommend that you never use a credit card connected to this hobby - probably not at all if possible except for "normal" hotels. Apart from a forensic trail, it is wide open to abuse by less moral people (how is that for a contradiction)!
Cash is king.

Polvo

RexG
09-11-06, 20:07
Last add for my s/p report. I forgot, since alot of us use credit card at the clubs, I just wanted to warn you that some clubs charge a riducules fee to use them. At least two, Cafe Gaguin and Club Bahamas will let you use the c/c for everything but the girls. If you do need to use your c/c at these clubs for the girls, they add on a 30% fee for that portion.


Quackup, thanks for your great reports. I am a little confused about cerdit card use at Bahamas where I have always [negoitiated and] paid the fee directly to the girl. I didn't think the club got involved with the girl's fee in any way. But it sounds like you can negotiate a price with the girl and, if you are a little short on cash, the club will process a charge for you. In that context, maybe the 30% service charge is not quite so outrageous, because the club does not normally handle the girls' money. On the other hand, I am still very pissed at Bahamas for charging me R$35 for the Red Bull "energizer drink" that I bought for one of the girls.

Rex

QuackUp
09-12-06, 07:46
Rex,

You can pay by credit card everything but the girls without having the extra 30% tagged on. If you are short on cash, they will let you put the girls fee on the c/c, but that is when they will add on the 30%. And yes, the girls pricing there is negotiable. From talking with the girls, Saturday is the best time to monger. It is slow in the club and the girls will come down in prices. Not only is the red bull expensive, this is the only club so far that didn't include any drinks with admission.

Komakino,

Near the international airport is a club called Cafe Monik. The address is R. Estrela de Zeraibe, 42 - centro - Guarulhos. Their telephone number is 6408-3800.

Q

Full Throttle
09-15-06, 19:53
Cutting and pasting from their website:
Rua Estrela H. Zeraibe - 34 - Centro - Guarulhos - São Paulo - Fone : 011 6408-3800

Dr. Q could be more correct about the number. Either way, it is very likely somewhere between 34 and 42 on Zeraibe.

It also says it is open 24 hours. Interesting since the pictures of the club show it to be completely empty. I'll test the theory one late morning this week.

I need to see a bigger map to tell exactly where it is, but it looks fairly straight forward.

The very weird website is www.cafemonik.com.br.

No mention of pricing that I could find.

Under services, it lists: • Beijo Grego

What's that? Greek kiss? Sounds intriguing...

FT

Euro100
09-16-06, 14:08
I checked out th eweb site, and this place looks interesting. FT, if you can provide a test report with prices, that would be great.

euro

DrLudo
09-17-06, 10:39
Under services, it lists: • Beijo Grego

What's that? Greek kiss? Sounds intriguing...

FTBeijo Grego, perfectly translated as Greek Kiss, means she is gonna kiss your ass!

And, properly done, an anal kiss is something absolutely delicious!

I hope this helped.

Rodney Houston
09-18-06, 03:28
I will be in Sao Paulo in Mid-November and would like something bigger than a hotel room does anyone know of shot-term vacation property. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Full Throttle
09-19-06, 17:14
No update yet, but I did call them.

They open at 1700hrs., open late. 30R entrada. She wouldn't tell me the prices for the programs. Told her I wan't picky, just wanted the beijo greigo for an hour, or so.

I'll report back after a visit tomorrow.

FT

Andre3000
09-21-06, 00:01
I arrived in SP yesterday and the best exchange rate I could get (at the airport) was 2.08 to USD!! It was 2.7 when I first came here in 2005. It felt kind of cool back then. Anyone has an idea if it's going to get any better for us in the near future?

By the way I'll be heading to Rio to check out my favorite terma scenes in a couple of days. I don't know exactly why but I'm kind of uncomfortable mongering in SP. I tried Bomboa last time and I was a bit dissappointed. I read a lot about the other options but I'm not sure..but after Rio. Anyone feel the same way?

A.A

Full Throttle
09-22-06, 15:08
First, do not be troubled... Real popped 3+% yesterday. Should get better than 220/1 via exchange or ATM.

Second, I didn't make it to Moniq. Had to work too long during the day. I suppose I should be grateful, 'cause without that, there would NEVER be anything to post.

I'll be downtown Saturday and Sunday. NO WORK and ALL PLAY, so, hopefully, I'll find something new to talk about. Sorry about the Moniq tease, though.

For those occasionally sequested near the Int'l Airport, I did find a few clubs while surfing on work breaks. I'll try and paste them.

FT

SlimHoleDrill
09-23-06, 18:03
No update yet, but I did call them.

They open at 1700hrs., open late. 30R entrada. She wouldn't tell me the prices for the programs. Told her I wan't picky, just wanted the beijo greigo for an hour, or so.

I'll report back after a visit tomorrow.

FTGave it a try during a long layover. Despite web site saying "open 24 hours" it was very closed. Looking through the door, it looked worse than just not open on Sunday -- called the phone number, no answer for a long time, finally a guy answered and said something like "no funcionado" which, again, sounds worse than just closed but my Portuguese is pretty bad. My mistake, I just jumped in a cab and didn't call first. Anyway, I thought the driver would have some other place, but no luck there either.

Sunday afternooon layovers in GRU still look like a bust to me.

Good luck.

RexG
09-23-06, 19:15
As I prepare for my trip to Brazil in November, I am once again drawn to those incredibly beautiful escort ads for ladies in Sao Paulo. As I have reported before, I have not had a particularly high success rate with escorts, and I have said "never again" at least once in this thread. But those ads are so hot that I am irresistibly drawn to them, even though I know the photos are airbrushed. Several posters have recommended that the gpguia site (www.gpguia.net) be used for escort review information. Not speaking portuguese, I have always shied away from that site. But this year I am using it as a reference, and it is surprisingly easy to find summary information on many, perhaps most, of the girls.

There have also been posts from time to time inquiring about escorts who speak English, and one of my problems with SP escorts has been arranging (in portuguese) an appointment over the phone.

Anyhow, my research for my November trip has uncovered the following escort. The chantily website (below) indicates that she speaks English, although none of the other websites say that. Hopefully she speaks enough English to make an appointment. The reports on gpguia are overwhelmingly positive (41 positive, 1 neutral, 1 negative; yes to "oral without" and yes to anal) and very recent. (This sweet looking girl has sure fucked a lot of guys. :-<)

I am not trying to promote this escort, although I must admit that this post might be interpreted as such. I have had no personal experience with her, but I'll probably call her in November.

Patricia Kimberly
http://www.malicia.com.br/4941
www.procuradas.com.br/procuradas/ac002445/index.php
http://www.sexdreams.com.br/acompanhantes/ac002445/index.php
http://www.chantily.com.br/saopaulo/garotas/ruivas/patriciakimberly.htm
http://www.erosguide.com.br/Patricia_Kimberly/Patricia_free.htm

As I write this message, Patricia's banner is splashed across the top of the sexdreams homepage. If you click on her banner, you will see more of her [airbrushed] photos than a non-member would normally see.

Sui Generis
09-23-06, 19:41
[QUOTE=RexG]

Anyhow, my research for my November trip has uncovered the following escort. The chantily website (below) indicates that she speaks English, although none of the other websites say that. Hopefully she speaks enough English to make an appointment. The reports on gpguia are overwhelmingly positive (41 positive, 1 neutral, 1 negative; yes to "oral without" and yes to anal) and very recent. (This sweet looking girl has sure fucked a lot of guys. :-<)

I am not trying to promote this escort, although I must admit that this post might be interpreted as such. I have had no personal experience with her, but I'll probably call her in November.

[QUOTE]

Hi RexG

It's kind of funny, because Patricia Kimberly is also on my wishlist (and I'll be there in November).

I think that the photos on these sites are quite accurate, because I have another set of photos and they are not photoshopped.

http://flog.clickgratis.com.br/gpguiapics/195700

(See the pictures 80 to 90)

Patricia is a porn actress and she attends in a flat which is located downtown (Flat São Paulo).

I don't know if she speaks English.

Toshw2
09-23-06, 20:43
As I prepare for my trip to Brazil in November, I am once again drawn to those incredibly beautiful escort ads for ladies in Sao Paulo. As I have reported before, I have not had a particularly high success rate with escorts, and I have said "never again" at least once in this thread. But those ads are so hot that I am irresistibly drawn to them, even though I know the photos are airbrushed. Several posters have recommended that the gpguia site (www.gpguia.net) be used for escort review information. Not speaking portuguese, I have always shied away from that site. But this year I am using it as a reference, and it is surprisingly easy to find summary information on many, perhaps most, of the girls.

There have also been posts from time to time inquiring about escorts who speak English, and one of my problems with SP escorts has been arranging (in portuguese) an appointment over the phone.

Anyhow, my research for my November trip has uncovered the following escort. The chantily website (below) indicates that she speaks English, although none of the other websites say that. Hopefully she speaks enough English to make an appointment. The reports on gpguia are overwhelmingly positive (41 positive, 1 neutral, 1 negative; yes to "oral without" and yes to anal) and very recent. (This sweet looking girl has sure fucked a lot of guys. :-<)

I am not trying to promote this escort, although I must admit that this post might be interpreted as such. I have had no personal experience with her, but I'll probably call her in November.

Patricia Kimberly
http://www.malicia.com.br/4941
www.procuradas.com.br/procuradas/ac002445/index.php
http://www.sexdreams.com.br/acompanhantes/ac002445/index.php
http://www.chantily.com.br/saopaulo/garotas/ruivas/patriciakimberly.htm
http://www.erosguide.com.br/Patricia_Kimberly/Patricia_free.htm

As I write this message, Patricia's banner is splashed across the top of the sexdreams homepage. If you click on her banner, you will see more of her [airbrushed] photos than a non-member would normally see.This girl currently on the ************ site can't remember if she goes under the same name but I'm sure you'll recognise her if you have a look.

Andre3000
09-23-06, 23:04
Anybody has information about Cafe Gaugin, like the prices or the best days?

A.A

Kent747
09-24-06, 01:27
Just came back from my trip to Rio and Sampa. Here are some of infos people may want to know:

1. Bomboa is rocking as usual. I guess their little problem last year did not effect their business. Current price: R$ 120 for house, R$ 80 for room, R$ 200-250 for the girl.

2. Went to Cafe Millenium for the first time. A big boate with maybe about 100 garotas. I found the girls to be a tad below Bomboa standard but very comparable. Milenium is located about 20-25 minutes from Moema (about R$ 20-25 taxi). Price: R$100 (I had 4-5 drinks but didn't add to my bill; not sure whether the drinks are included in entrance fee) for house, R$ 70 for room, and R$ 200 for the girl. The room I had was pretty decent sized with a jacuzzi tub inside.

3. Went to The Palms massage parlor for the first time. Located in Vila Olimpia (very close to Moema). Looked fairly new with man made water streams inside and nice big rooms. I wanted to go with Angelina (her picture from their catalog looked hot) but she didn't work before 5:00 PM or so (I arrived about 3 PM). Went with another girl and costed me R$ 200 to the girl and R$ 155 for the house. I found the Palms to be compable to other Clinicas except the price.

4. Stayed at Mercure Priviledge (formerly the Parthenon) in Moema. Not as nice as Mercure Times Square on Av. Jamaris on other side of Moema, but still has the seperate bedroom and same amenities as Merure Times Square. BTW, all the Parthenons have changed their names to Mercure.

5. Guarulhos Airport is about one hour (if reasonable traffic) from Moema. Taxi fares should be about R$ 80.

Surferr3
09-24-06, 08:57
RexG,

Have you looked at Bella? She is listed on gpguia as well and has 109 positive and 1 negative reviews. I saw her my last trip and would repeat (even though she's not totally my type) in a heartbeat.

More importantly, she speaks fluent English. I stayed at the Hotel Unique and spent an hour before and after the session having a drink with her at the bar. She was great conversation and it's sometimes nice when you can have a conversation with a garota that understands everything you say. If you meet her call in advance as she takes off random days from time to time.

I'm not her pimp... I actually reccommended her a while back for someone looking for an engish speaking girl. It just makes the phone call so much easier for those that don't speak portuguese.

http://www.erosguide.com.br/Bellaa/Bella_free.htm
http://www.bella-home.com/

Have fun on your trip.

The Guy
09-24-06, 17:33
Went there for the first time last Thursday. One of best experiences in Brazil. Girls 6-9 with very good attitude, professional management, great rooms. For R120 (drinks included), it's one of the best price/value ratios in Brazil, in my opinion. I took a girl (Jessica was her name, I think) who just turned 22. I rate her a 9 in looks, with only a slight downgrade due to my preference for model figures.

Full Throttle
09-24-06, 21:39
Guy: Glad you liked Kin. Went there yesterday with Ibiza007. FULL debrief for our day/night to follow...

QuackUp
09-25-06, 05:22
Aa,

Entrance into C/G is r$120 which includes two drinks. I have only been there once so I can't tell you what the better days are. They did have some hotties the night I went and I did pull one out of there for r$300.

Ft,

At c/m, I paid r$150 for the girl. I believe the price range is between r$100 to r$200. Remember it is a smaller club.

Hope this helps,

Q

Full Throttle
09-25-06, 16:18
I assume that most members who read the Sampa thread also spend some time on the Rio side as well. For those that don’t cross-pollinate, I should probably explain that Ibiza and I became friends in Rio. Though an Ex-Pat through and through, he lives there while I get to visit there 2-4 times per month. We’ve had a great time exploring the lesser-known opportunities in Rio, particularly downtown/ Centro. Ibiza’s prettier, more charming, speaks much better Portuguese, and, based on his last 10 days, far more prolific. But I type faster, so I’ll report on our day in Sampa.

I arrived by plane Saturday morning. Ibiza arrived by bus mid-afternoon. The big decision was Eu & Elas in the afternoon or Clinica Kin. Neither of us had been to Eu & Elas (truth be told, this was Ibiza’s first mongering mission to SP). But, E&E is essentially a terma, so that part of the experience wouldn’t be new to us, we were expected for dinner at 7PM, and I do like my rock star status at Clinica Kin. So, Kin won.

Kin is totally different in the evening than in the day. During my previous 15+ visits there, I typically shared the common area with 0-2 customers. This time, there were 7-10. The girls came out presently. The famous Cleo said hello on her way to a session, so she was ineligible. Of the remaining 8 girls who were not occupied, a couple were quite attractive, several doable, and a couple not so appealing. Honoring the courtesy Ibiza extends to me while in Rio, I yielded to his first choice-- Kelly, I think. I wanted to choose between Melissa, who I had no research data on and Camila, who was just coming off session. While she doesn’t fit my typical spinner, cutesy profile, Camila receives superior internet reviews. She is fairly short, soft blond hair, a bit stocky but extremely firm, and has DD bolt-ons. She has a very pretty, genuine smile. (See attached low-res pictures)

She lived up to the Kin standard that I have reported here many times. She was a tremendous GFE, starting with a teenage make-out session, enthusiastic BBBJ, then a serious DATY with multiple digits exploring multiple orifices. Since I took a little time to decide, I opted for the 30 minute session (90R vs. 120R). So, when Camila (apparently) finished, she went right back to work on me. She started to put the condom on, but I indicated that wouldn’t be necessary. So, she resumed, but placed herself in such a way on all fours that I couldn’t help but to revisit side B with my fingers. She responded with an inviting moan, prompting me to ask about finishing in the bunda. BIG smile and an exaggerated “SI!!”

So, on went the condom and in I plunged. It’s amazing… I’ve only been “into” the bunda thing for a short while, but it’s shaping up to be an enduring aspect of my hobby. So, skipping the buceta completely, I lasted all of 3 minutes in the bunda, which was perfect as the phone rang even as I made my way to the shower. I gave her a 10R to buy an ice cream for her 5-year old, which she accepted with great appreciation.

Ibiza also had a fantastic session, although his superior libido required the full hour with Kelli, more than half of which was spent in side B. Since I’m the world’s biggest proponent of Kin, I have to be forthcoming and share that Kelli, fairly new to Kin, attempted to up-sell Ibiza for complete-- AFTER the fact. This is totally unacceptable. I/we discussed this with the madam, but I’m not convinced she understood the situation. I should emphasize that Kelli is quite beautiful and a fantastic performer and even called Ibiza the following day to attempt to get together, so all ended okay. But, if that happened one of my first visits, I never would have gone back which would have been a shame.

So, we were a little late, but we met up with colleagues for dinner at the Angelica Grill. Ibiza pointed out that it reminded him of the glitzy buffets in ‘Vegas in that the façade of a really nice restaurant quickly gives way to very average food. The entire meal and drinks probably cost less than an appetizer at a GK-approved restaurant, but I don’t think I’ll go back.

Around 10PM, we went to All Black, a cool Irish Pub owned by a very nice girl and her New Zealander husband. Peixoto Gomide 1972 and R. Oscar Freire 137-163 block. Though shocked by the 25R cover charge (15R for women), the beer is good, the service excellent, and the classic rock band sounds like the original artists. By midnight, the place was packed with people, including dozens of beautiful girls. Historically, this place has been inhabited by semi-pros, but that really didn’t seem to be the case this night.

We then parted ways with my colleagues, and headed down to “Deep Augusta.” I know there is something wrong with me, but I really love this area. We only went into The Balneiro Club and the place to its right. While they all want you to commit to two beers on your way in, they always settle for one. I’m sad to report that beers have gone from 5R to 7R. Nova Maison and Night House are the two best places, but we skipped them for the time being and headed down to Kilt. It’s interesting that there are a number of places (My Love, Vergao [or something], Oceano [formerly Cocktail] and others), but Kilt is busier than all others combined. There were tons of girls and many guys.

Talent was so-so and prices were sky high. Entrada is listed as 45R including 1 beer. Subsequent beers are 20R or 25R, meaningless numbers since I would never buy a second drink at those prices. Ibiza managed to extricate himself from a pushy, chubby girl. I had a great make-out session with two dark girls. I liked the spinner, but the taller one was more assertive. The PLAN was to go to Love Story, so I used Ibiza’s first visit to Sampa as reason not to take any girls. This backfired when Ibiza stopped by to say hi on his way to the onsite rooms with a girl. Great.

So, I had to be more honest and tell the girls that I wasn’t half the man that Ibiza was and couldn’t session there AND go to Love Story. I also ran into Ana Carolina whose pictures were placed by someone in this thread or in the Photos. She is as cute as a button and has a funny, biting sense of humor. One of these days, I’ll see how good she is.

Around 4AM, Ibiza FINALLY finished with his girl. He made up for his up-sell experience in Kin by compressing her financial request from 200R + extra for completo to 100R all-inclusive. This is a near unbelievable accomplishment for a gringo in Kilt—even one who claims to be a Carioca.

When we met in front of Love Story, Ibiza told me he was “spent… completely done.” Love Story is now 60R entrada including 2 drinks, and I assume you can still go in for 30R and 1 drink. I say assume because we decided to blow it off. Instead, we were going to walk back to Deep Augusta where I would session in Balneiro Club while he got his 2nd legitimate massage of the night from “Kelli 2.” Along the way, we passed many girls walking from Kilt and the other strip joints. Ana Carolina smiled as she walked by, but we were talking to one of the dark girls who was visibly upset that we were walking AWAY from Love Story. Oh, well. For strategy purposes, one could probably do well by choosing a girl at Kilt, then lying in wait for her between there and Love Story. One could avoid the exit drink that way.

The Balneiro club was slowing down. Kelli2 the masseuse was available for here 30R massage for 30 minutes. Kelli2 is a converted provider who I enjoyed a couple of years ago. She tosses salad as well as anyone I’ve had, which is one of my favorite provider services. She continues to hang out topless and, for a 40-year old, has a very nice body with perky B-cups.

My choice was Brenda or Brenda, and even then I had to wake her up from her snooze on the lounge chairs. I was with her once before about 18 months ago. My recollection was that she had a rock hard body and a pleasant face. Since then, someone apparently took her to Bob’s one too many times and beat her senseless with the ugly stick. Or, perhaps, I was a bit more sober this time, an unlikely possibility given that I was in my 13th hour of drinking beer. Still, her body was pretty nice and her demeanor is definitely pleasant. She asked for 100R for a session. I said, “Ok, but that includes the room (22R).” She agreed but added that if I decided to do the bunda, then I pay for the room.

While I’ll never do her again due to facts mentioned above and a suspicion that her hygiene is not all that it could be, I have to say that her BJ skills are as good as good can be, although she diverted most of the damage at the last moment. And yes, I paid for the room.

As spent as Ibiza was, Kelli2 managed to use her special lingual skills to finish him off one last time. In fact, for the third time that day, I had to wait for him to finish with his girl. One interesting thing is that, while I waited for Ibiza, girls streamed in to the club and checked out blankets, then made their way to the monger rooms onsite. One eagerly waited for Ibiza to finish so she could sleep in his room. I hope she got a discount.

So, after a 10-hour flight and 5-hour bus ride (respectively), and 15 hours of drinking and chasing, we headed back to the hotel for a much-needed rest around 7:00AM. Taxi to and from Kin, to the restaurant, to All Black, then back to Deep Augusta, food, drinks everywhere all the time, entradas, 2 sessions, lunch the next day, and a bootleg movie all cost $480R. That’s a veritable fortune in my book, but a lot of fun. It does explain why I did no more mongering on day 2, however. Well, that and we need time to regroup in anticipation of our next “excellent adventure,” currently slated for 10/15 in Rio.

Bobo5
09-29-06, 13:22
What would you suggest?

Is Bomboa open on Sundays?

Pistol Pete
10-02-06, 03:47
Made my first trip to Brazil and I can't wait until I return. The Brazilian garotas are the best in the world.

I arrived on Saturday morning and made an appointment with Sampa Guide Fernando. It was well worth the R$ 150 and we met at 9 PM and headed for the Cafe Millenium. Cab fare is about R$30 from the Jardins district where I was staying to the club. Having someone to translate is helpful to a quality time, even though it is not essential. I thought hiring was Fernando was worth it and would recommend it to any visitors. Fernando is a very charming fellow and a good companion. He also does tours of the city and helped me find a good hotel. I regret that I did not have time for the day tour with him.

I was very impressed walking into the cafe. It was about R$ 100 at the door. I had not eaten dinner so we ordered one of the appetizers which was this huge plate of filet mignon, which I only ate a third of and gave away the rest to the girls. You can spend out your entrance fee. Saturday night is one of the offnights for Cafe Millenium with the midweek being the best time.

However, after 11 PM there are some pretty quality girls in there, so try to hold out until then.

Anyway, we were joined by a girl named Julia who had a real nice body and incredible breasts, but she was pretty young and had braces which resembled the jaws of life. I settled in with her and brought her back to my hotel. I can't remember the costs but Fernando got us a discount on the exit cost of the gir (normally is $150) and she originally asked R$ 600, but we settled on R$ 550 for full service. Fernando thought that this was a good price, but I found that on a Saturday you can probably do much better with bargaining the price down so long as you do not lose out on the services.

We went back to our hotel where I had a bottle of Brazilian champaign. It is a nice touch because the hotels will give you a nice silver ice bucket and glasses for free. The champagne was about R$20 R but as you will see well worth it. Julia like most girls did not speak any English and my Portuguese was minimal. We both had a good buzz going to the hotel and she liked to party. The sex was pretty wild. The highlight was her laying on the bed and deep throating me as I stood over her. However, at one point I was surprised when Julia ripped off the condom and climbed on top of me and we were barebacking it. I should have pulled out immediately, but I had too much of a buzzing going and ended up firing a load out on her thigh.

I wanted to go anal, but she immediately started complaining that I was too large and hung like a negro, which is not true at all. I felt like asking for some money back. At least in my case this is a flimsy excuse not to go anal and I would avoid any girl that has this as a caveat. However, she was pounding the champagne and at the end of the night around 4 AM, she let me massage her ass and then succumbed to some really good anal sex. She seemed to climax at the end of it and we both fell asleep.

It turns out the next morning she had her period and got blood all over the towels. She was saying Nao Sexo, because she was too drunk and had anal, but the truth was that she was a bloody mess with her period. She also was suppose to take a bus back home at 5 AM, but missed it because she drank too much. I can't remember where her home was but it was a 14 hour trip from SP.

I found her period to be very disturbing after having had a brief bare back encounter. Anyway, she wanted breakfast and taxi fare, but I walked her to the taxi. I was a little disappointed in her anal attitude and making such a mess in the morning. It was funny when I kissed her on the cheek as she left she gently elbowed me in the stomach.

Friday night I went out with some friends in Campinas. We partied out a bar and I met a really beautiful Brazilian girl, but when she started telling me that I really want to kiss you, but I can't. I knew it was time to leave.

My friend took me to the outskirts to a club called Las Vegas. This area is kind of scary because it is really run down but seems to be full of brothels. We arrived at the club around 5 AM and it still seemed to be hopping. The girls were not too bad, but there clothes were either dirty or had holes in them which gave them a really slutty appearance. Our waitress was really cute with very large breasts and there was another girl who was really hot. The waitress only want R$135 for an hour of sex and the cute girl wanted R$200 but she had this stuck up attitude. After waiting too long for the cute one to show up, I settled on our waitress. I think she may have cut the time short, when she said that we ran out of time. I was up all day, totally drunk, and the sun was up, so I did not care. The sex was OK, for anal it would have been R$400 and my friend thought that this was too exorbitant to pay.

Saturday, I met up with Fernando again. He recommened a new club, but I wanted to go back to Cafe Millenium, because another girl had caught my eye. Note, there seems to be an influx of hot women around 11 PM so you don't want to commit too early. Anyway, I saw this girl and I immediately requested her company. Her name was Nicoli and she was older 30, but looks young if you don't look too carefully (I had left my glasses in the back in the hotel). We ended up settling on R$ 500 and she came back to my hotel. She was wonderful, but did not have as much energy as Julia. She also was not as talented with the BJs but did a really good job with anal.
Around 2 AM she wanted to go to sleep. I liked her very much and sex in the morning was very good but not spectacular. I really have to learn some Portuguese before I come back.

Both girls from SP were really good with the GFEs.

It is also interesting to note that Julia snuck up with me to my hotel room, while Nicoli registered at the front desk. It did not cost me anything at my hotel for Nicoli, but it would have been an extra charge of $30 for Julia at that hotel. I am not sure if these girls have the hotels sussed out in terms of which ones charge and which ones don't.

Pete

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Orgasm Donor
10-03-06, 03:59
I am in Sao Paulo right now and I want to hook up with some girls from an escort site. I am at a somewhat luxury hotel in Santo Amaro, got a Claro chip in my phone, somewhat poor portuguese language skills. I got my eyes on some garotas on a Sao Paulo website...

So, what do I do? first question is would it be a bad idea to have a garota come to a fairly swank hotel? Or, is this something that is not really a problem? What if she gets turned away?
Or should I find a Motel? and if I find a Motel, do I call a garota from there? or ask to meet her there at a certain time? and where would we meet at the Motel?

Where Im at is not a hotbed of pussy like RJ, please show me the ropes so I can get my rocks off.

Im also open to other suggestions. Boites, Termas etc. and what I can expect to pay.

Ive searched thru the forums and didnt find much to answer my questions.

Thanks guys...
O.D.

Polvo
10-03-06, 07:16
Where Im at is not a hotbed of pussy like RJ, please show me the ropes so I can get my rocks off.

Im also open to other suggestions. Boites, Termas etc. and what I can expect to pay.

I've searched thru the forums and didnt find much to answer my questions.

Thanks guys,

O.D.Dear Senior Member:

My suggestion is that you do go to the Bahamas Beach Club as you can check out the girls on-site. If one takes your eye you can take her upstairs on the premises. In fact, you can do that several times with several different ones in one night!! Your budget will stand it and it is top-notch talent. The other alternative is Cafe Photo where you also have a lot of choice of high quality talent but you have to go next door to slip the sausage.

If you check the merchandise out at the above clubs you can do them there - or decide to repair back to your hotel. BUT I advise sampling first!

Good luck

Polvo

Supafly
10-03-06, 11:17
I just read the Sao Paolo directory contribution from Gengis Khan. It is a complete piece of gold, I am immensely grateful for his work.

I do have a precise question, as I am very new about all this lifestyle. So please, anyone? Keep on reading below.

I will be in Sao Paulo for the F1 race week, 16-23 october.

Could I please ask you the best ways to gain access to the swinging scene? Nefertitti for example: I will be alone, as you can easily imagine.

Do I simple need to bring an escort with me or is it not enough? Am I allowed to step inside as a single man?

Thank you!

Sui Generis
10-03-06, 15:34
I am in Sao Paulo right now and I want to hook up with some girls from an escort site. I am at a somewhat luxury hotel in Santo Amaro, got a Claro chip in my phone, somewhat poor portuguese language skills. I got my eyes on some garotas on a Sao Paulo website...

So, what do I do?

OD,

It's not a problem to find an escort in SP, at an affordable price. Sure, the girls can visit you to your room. Most of them have their own car. In that case they often park in the basement of the hotel and they take the elevator without going thru the front desk to register. If the escort you book doesn't have a car, she will take a cab, and in that case you will pay a little supplement (around $R50).

Your knowledge of Portuguese is poor? Hum... this may be a problem. Anyhow, read my former posts where I mention the name of some English speaking escorts. (I don't want to make free publicity)

An other option is, as you mentioned, to rent a motel room. A popular one is Motel Lido in Liberdade. Most of the girls know this place. Mention on the phone the number of your room and the girl will knock at your door before she will knock you of your feet (if she is stunning!).

MOTEL LIDO:

http://www.nomotel.com.br/web/DetalhesMotel.aspx?motelID=718

Another option (my favorite) is to visit the girl at his place. Sometime you will have to show your ID at the front desk. In this case I think it's better to speak fluently Portuguese..it smooths the process.

Good hunting

Orgasm Donor
10-03-06, 16:18
Do not ever go to Santo Amaro area of SP. There is NOTHING here! Went for a walk at 1am to see if I could find a bistro or bar for a late drink. I walked for an hour and NOTHING was open, and I think 2 service trucks passed me on the main street after walking an hour! other than that, I didnt see a soul.
I surfed an escort site that listed the area that the escorts lived. I would say 95% of them lived in Jardim. Perhaps it was just that site that had mostly Jardim escorts. but there was well over 300 ads on that site, so that must say something. My portuguese isnt that bad, but gets worse if someone is getting impatient with me. These garotas are in business, so I dont think they will get impatient if a prospect calls. I had to jack off to fotos on the escort site last nite. isnt that pathetic?
How much you think it would cost to get completa from an escort here? I will call an english speaking escort first and maybe she can show me how its done. It may be a bit expensive, but I think it will get me rolling.

O.D.

Sui Generis
10-04-06, 15:04
I would say 95% of them lived in Jardim. How much you think it would cost to get completa from an escort here? I will call an english speaking escort first and maybe she can show me how its done. It may be a bit expensive, but I think it will get me rolling.

O.D.

This is not quite true. Not all the escorts live in Jardim (even if a lot live there). I should rather say that the district with the most «pussy to bang per square inch» is Moema.

The price for a completa? It ranges from R$150 to R$250 for 1h 1/2 to 2h...and even more if the chemistry rolls.

Orgasm Donor
10-05-06, 23:34
Just out of curiosity, on what do you base that Moema has more PPSI than Jardim Paulista Sui? I only drew my conlusion after scanning one escort site with over 300 profiles and Id say 95% were in Jardim. Tell us what you know Sui! Is Moema really the "Bang Town" of Sao Paulo?

O.D.

Sui Generis
10-06-06, 04:54
Just out of curiosity, on what do you base that Moema has more PPSI than Jardim Paulista Sui? I only drew my conlusion after scanning one escort site with over 300 profiles and Id say 95% were in Jardim. Tell us what you know Sui! Is Moema really the "Bang Town" of Sao Paulo?

O.D.

My statement is based on information provided by my friend (I could even say my ''mentor'') in São Paulo and, partly, on my own experience (which is quite limited, I should confess).

This friend is a first class putanheiro, knowing virtually everybody and every girls in this business (by the way, he is a moderator on the famous Brazilian forum). On my last trip, I had the chance to meet him and he introcuded me to several girls...

He wrote on the Brazilian forum (I think I can quote it, because it is public domain, isn't it?)

''em Moema, pertinho de lá onde você vai se hospedar na tua próxima viagem (perto de um monte de flats de putas também)''

(In moema, very close to where you will stay on your next trip (also close to a lot of apartment buildings full of *****s).

So many girls live in Moema: Elektra, Meyre Gueixa, Leticia Lima, Fernanda Moreno, Sarah Couto, Tatiana Amaral, Monique Sat, Larissa Myage, Dominique Castro, Gabriela Fernandes, Barbara Ferraz, Tuliane Ferraz, Danielli Ferrari .....

I will report ''live'' in a month (I will land November 5th)

Full Throttle
10-07-06, 22:59
...i arrived on saturday morning and made an appointment with sampa guide fernando. it was well worth the r$ 150 ...


...saturday night is one of the offnights for cafe millenium with the midweek being the best time. ...


anyway, we were joined by a girl named julia who had a real nice body and incredible breasts, but she was pretty young and had braces which resembled the jaws of life. i settled in with her and brought her back to my hotel. i can't remember the costs but fernando got us a discount on the exit cost of the gir (normally is $150) and she originally asked r$ 600, but we settled on r$ 550 for full service....

... fernando thought that this was a good price, but i found that on a saturday you can probably do much better ...




...i wanted to go anal, but she immediately started complaining that i was too large and hung like a negro, which is not true at all..



...saturday, i met up with fernando again. he recommened a new club, but i wanted to go back to cafe millenium, because another girl had caught my eye...

the board seems to liven up with disagreement, so perhaps this will be therapeutic.

-150r for a guide is ridiculous under any circumstanes. i'm appalled.
-10r for what fernando did for you would be too much:
--take you to a common american tourist club that any taxi driver on between patagonia and equador could find?
--on a saturday night that you acknowledge is the worst?
--allowing you to negotiate 500+r to bring home a girl? or should i say "helping" you negotiate 10% off her ridiculous asking price? you could probably get the same discount joining aaa.
--meeting up with you a second time to go to the same club (i know he wanted to go somewhere else, but how descriptive/persuasive was he, and i wonder which club it wa? i'm guessing it's another one that he gets commission from.)?
--did he mention that the vast majority take girls on-site at cafe m? for about 1/2 what you paid? and the bloody mess is somebody else's problem? that kilt and other places are more suited for take-out? 200r/night + 1 40r drink?

perhaps sampa guide's services are varied. the value of such a companion would only be to get you into places you wouldn't find or wouldn't be welcome otherwise. even then, 150r is absurd. i had no idea he was charging that. if he had his own car and drove you around, 1/2 of that might be appropriate. this board is supposed to prevent people from spending that kind of money, not facilitate it!

so, this is not supposed to criticize the original poster. perhaps he deserves some harassment for returning escorted to cafe m, but that would be good-natured. my criticism is pointed at sampa guide who originally "advertised" on this board as someone who would show you some unique spots for a reasonable price. he did neither for this poster.

also, i'm stuck going to chile tonight-- a nice country but the very worst in the hemisphere for p4p.

ft

Andre3000
10-08-06, 01:21
-150R for a guide is ridiculous under any circumstanes. I'm appalled.
-10R for what Fernando did for you would be too much:
--take you to a common American tourist club that any taxi driver on between Patagonia and Equador could find?
--on a Saturday night that you acknowledge is the worst?
--allowing you to negotiate 500+R to bring home a girl? Or should I say "helping" you negotiate 10% off her ridiculous asking price? You could probably get the same discount joining AAA.
--Meeting up with you a second time to GO TO THE SAME CLUB (I know he wanted to go somewhere else, but how descriptive/persuasive was he, and I wonder which club it wa? I'm guessing it's another one that he gets commission from.)?
--Did he mention that the vast majority take girls on-site at Cafe M? For about 1/2 what you paid? And the bloody mess is somebody else's problem? That Kilt and other places are more suited for take-out? 200R/night + 1 40R drink?

Perhaps Sampa Guide's services are varied. The value of such a companion would ONLY be to get you into places you wouldn't find or wouldn't be welcome otherwise. Even then, 150R is absurd. I had no idea he was charging that. If he had his own car and drove you around, 1/2 of that might be appropriate. This board is supposed to prevent people from spending that kind of money, not facilitate it!
I totally -and personally- agree on this. I wouldn't say no to a local friend who'd go around with me to all these American bars (and I'd pay for the drinks), but in this case he's become a professional mongering guide and this could ruin the possible GFE in the first place. On the other hand if you don't understand Portuguese, you're going to have some difficulty anyway with or without him. English is spoken in many of these places. There's either a manager or a bartender willing to help. As for negotiations with the girls, a pen and a napkin will help. Don't forget to watch her moves and use some common sense. And always smile, act friendly and try to be your own guide.

Cheers,

A.A

Member #4643
10-08-06, 03:35
i always stay in jardins because i like to go to the museum and antique fair on sunday morning. however, i have a midweek one night layover, and will be looking for an 11 am rendevous in an mp prior to my flight to rio. as the best mps are in moema (and i am leaving on a 3:30 pm plane from congonhas), i am looking for a nice friendly hotel with high speed internet access in moema.

can someone give me the name of such a hotel near francebel or clinica kin? thanks

Phreeman69
10-09-06, 04:33
I dropped by Bomboa around 10:30 and the place was cooking. There were about 40 guys and twice that many women with a band playing. The assistant manager was very helpful, as it was my first time there he explained everything in perfect English. The place is very user friendly, no money hassles and the rooms upstairs are very clean with private baths, fresh towels, etc.

The R$150 entry includes ~6 drinks. A room costs R$80 for an hour, or you pay an exit fee to take a girl home before 3:00 AM of R$100. The girls are negotiable, supposedly with a R$200 minimum, probably R$200-300 for an hour inhouse typically. (roughly half the R$ amounts to get US dollar equivalents)

The girls were mostly 6 to 8s, walking around in bikinis or short skirts. Some of them spoke English. It seems a lot are students, they get to leave early if they have classes. Sweet, horney girls out to have fun and make a few bucks.

There was a dark beauty from Rio named Vivian. She took R$250 for an hour of BBBJ and just about everything else...totally laid back and friendly. She speaks English as well. Highly recommended.

Bomboa
Rua Capote Valente 222

Sui Generis
10-09-06, 16:06
i always stay in jardins because i like to go to the museum and antique fair on sunday morning. however, i have a midweek one night layover, and will be looking for an 11 am rendevous in an mp prior to my flight to rio. as the best mps are in moema (and i am leaving on a 3:30 pm plane from congonhas), i am looking for a nice friendly hotel with high speed internet access in moema.

can someone give me the name of such a hotel near francebel or clinica kin? thanks


forest,

here's a partial list of what you are looking for.

i hope it may help you.

in moema, close to congonhas airport you can find these mps



abbobora:

adress: 644 av. miruna - moema
phone: 5092-5787 / 5092-4168

www.abbobora.com.br



kin:

site: http://www.clinicakin.com.br/

phone: 5181-9026 / 5182-9528
adress: 235 rua prof. josé marques da cruz,
(between campo belo and brooklin paulista, near av. roque petroni jr.)



clinica cherry

adress: 2019 rua pascal - campo belo

phone: (11) 5041-2119 / 5044-5696

site: http://www.clinicacherry.com.br



la fleur de jour

adress: 471 rua baronesa de bela vista, vila congonhas
phone: 5561-0126 / 5533-5030

site: http://www.lafleurdejour.com.br

(this one is very close to the congonhas aiport_



clínica carinás

adress: 439 av. das carinás, moema
phone: 5044-2044

site: http://www.clinicacarinas.com.br



clínica francebel

adress: 1634 rua pascal, campo belo
phone: 5533-6955

site: http://www.francebel.com.br



hotels:

blue tree convention ibirapuera (moema)

adress: 2,927av. ibirapuera, moema
tel.: (11) 2161-2200
fax: (11) 2161-2201
(3 km from the airport)

http://www.bluetree.com.br/hoteis/hoteis_localizacao.asp?hotel=20



bristol multy qi ibirapuera hotel

adress: 364 av. ibijau
phone: (11) 5054-4422

http://www.bristolhoteis.com.br/index.php?a=5&c=4&h=35


comfort moema - atlantica

adress: 825, av. sabiá
phone: (5511) 50547200 /fax: (5511) 50547201

http://extranet.pmweb.com.br/wiz_atlantica/hoteis/estrutura.asp?numfuncionalidade=292&numhotel=33&cidade=são%20paulo&titulo=apresentação


intercity premium ibirapuera


adress: 2577 av. ibirapuera, moema

http://www.dilos.com/hotel/7440



merak hotel
http://www.merakhotel.com.br/



travel inn ritz

http://www.travelinn.com.br/hoteis/index.asp?cod_hotel=7




quality moema - atlantica

http://www.atlanticahotels.com.br/atlantica_ing/hoteis/estrutura.asp?numfuncionalidade=292&numhotel=55&cidade=s%c3%a3o%20paulo



quality suites congonhas - atlantica

http://www.worldexecutive.com/directory/brazil/sao_paulo/hotels/br031.html


sonesta são paulo ibirapuera

http://www.sonesta.com/saopaulo/

Prosal
10-10-06, 15:39
The two former Parthenons (Privilege and Times Square) in Moema, now named Mercure Apartments, are also a VERY good alternative. Times Square is newer and more confortable.

http://www.accorhotels.com.br

Sui Generis
10-10-06, 16:21
The two former Parthenons (Privilege and Times Square) in Moema, now named Mercure Apartments, are also a VERY good alternative. Times Square is newer and more confortable.

http://www.accorhotels.com.br

I concord.

In fact, I will stay at Le Corbusier on Lavandisca Avenue, another former Parthenon. I like the Mercure Apartments because you have a microwave oven in your room and it is close to where my friends (paulista hobbyists and some GP) live.

Member 9578
10-10-06, 16:29
Does anyone know of any 2 or 3 bedroom nightly apartment rentals in Sao Paulo?

Would like to be in the Moema or Villa Olympia area, close to the ipuepuera(?sp) mall if possible. Thanks

Kos Hunter

Prosal
10-11-06, 09:53
KH

You'll find two-bedrooms apartments in the Mercure Apart Times Square Colonnades, which is located Rua Jamaris in Moema (at the same location you'll find also the Times Square Diamond which is a few clicks behind). It's from what I know the most luxurious Mercure Apart in town.

The apartments are bright and clean, with wooden floors, nice bathrooms, modern furniture, safety boxes, ect .... really nice. Yet swimming pool is so-so and shaded.

It's in front of the Music Hall where there's often good MPB concerts, and at walking distance to the Ibirapuera ;) Mall, very convenient for day-time strolls.

You can't be wrong with the location.

The Mercure Apart Privilege is on the other side of the av Ibirapuera, and even closer to the Mall. A bit older but nice, with a convenient 24 hours italian restaurant (EXCELLENT feijoada on Saturdays) on the ground floor. Yet I don't think they have two-bedroom aparts.

Hope this help.

Spazzio
10-14-06, 20:30
Any some have more inforamtion about the boat trip any links?


I would highly reccomend to any self respecting Monger to treat a favorite garota to the cruise.

The only things to do on the cruise is :

1) Fuck
2) Eat
3) Drink
1) Fuck
2) Eat
3) Drink
1) Fuck
2) Eat
3) Drink

SWEEET !