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Sampa Guide
01-01-06, 19:23
I heard rumors of a new club, that's going to start activities in the beggining of this year.

I don't have the information about it's name yet, but it will be in the region of Moema (where Bahamas and other clubs are located).

An escort told me it's going to be as good as Bahamas, as soon as I get more information I'll post here.

And since I'm on vacation (from the university), my services will be avaliable almost every day in january.

For those who don't know, I'm a guide (for escort seekers) here in São Paulo and I got good reviews, for more information send me a PM or check my topic at http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=383988&postcount=2100

Thanks, and I wish the best for you all in 2006

Tommy America
01-03-06, 00:58
Does anyone know if Donna Caffe has ever reopened? Or (more importantly) what club have all the regulars who used to be at Donna moved on to? I will be back in SP next week and would like to renew some "old acquaintances".

Thanks for any information you might have.

Tommy America
01-03-06, 01:04
I heard rumors of a new club, that's going to start activities in the beggining of this year.

I don't have the information about it's name yet, but it will be in the region of Moema (where Bahamas and other clubs are located).

An escort told me it's going to be as good as Bahamas, as soon as I get more information I'll post here.I will be returning to Sao Paulo next week. Please let us know what you discover about the new club. I used to be a big fan of Donna Caffe before it closed. The other clubs are fun, but I still think Donna was best for live music and dancing until early morning!

Full Throttle
01-03-06, 01:11
Warning: The Grey Poupon crowd should skip this post.

Spent the last couple of days in Sampa. Missed the New Year’s Eve festivities, but were able to enjoy the light displays along Paulista. Anyway, who cares?

It was January 1st, and a Sunday to boot. On the street next to Kilt, no creatures were stirring, everythig was mute.

O’Malley’s was open, Bloody Mary’s were cheap, which is good you would think, but they tasted too horrible to drink. The band had no singers, and the bar lacked any ringers.

By the middle of the night, it was time to search for what the Brazilians call a “fight.” Deep down Augusta we went, my friends calling me “low rent.” Unabashed and bold, I told them to put their opinions on hold.

Into Maison we went, their noses in the air were bent. Maison Nova was tried, but there was no worthy bride. Very hot and muggy was the Balneiro Club, and there was only one girl to give you a rub.

Please show patience, I told them, eventually we would find an acceptable fem.

Bouncing from place to place, the $5R beers helped us keep pace.
The biggest surprise was a place called Night House, too clean for a rat, just right for a mouse. Free food for all, and many girls to ball.

In Maison there was a little blond girl in a dress, and only my friends and I to impress.

First one then the other spent an hour, their cost not much more than a New York Flower. 60R + 22R for the room, a bit less than WE, I assume.

Vanessa is the little spinner's name; she'll make you happy or you will have me to blame.

Today was for Clinica Kin, the best place, plus I have an “in.” More than one beautiful girl to take for a whirl. A great place and the madam has a smiling face. 120R the total price, and that includes almost EVERY vice.

Wishing everyone a Happy New Year– and rhyming is not only the art of a queer!

FT

Truant
01-05-06, 18:38
She is Millenna. http://www.ellass.com.br/modelo.asp?pid=846
Photos on the site seem OK but the product that shows up at your doorstep is an overweight slob. She does have the green eyes and pouty lips but with a trailer trash attitude after she gets down to business. She began the negotiations on the phone at R$350 and easily came down to R$150 for one hour in my room. What a waste of Reis no matter how much you pay her.

Do not recommend and would not repeat.

MoonDog
01-07-06, 08:33
Full Throttle,

Rua Augusta can be an absolute blast. Thanks for the recap.

Moondog

Pluto2
01-10-06, 18:19
Was doing some homework on a different topic, and read the US Consulate's web site on Brazil. There were the usual warnings about Rio.

I was surprised to see that the consulate has a warning about R. Augusta stating that some number of Americans have been robbed here by garotas slipping drugs into their drinks at the "bars". Also, a warning about the Praca de Se' area for pick pockets and I think strong-arm.

I think Bubba Boy's suggestion of linking up with like minded brothers when visiting R. Augusta and Centro is probably good advice. I had no problem linking up with some great people from this site that made my time in SP memorable.

Enjoy!
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1072.html

Sui Generis
01-10-06, 19:19
I think Bubba Boy's suggestion of linking up with like minded brothers when visiting R. Augusta and Centro is probably good advice. I had no problem linking up with some great people from this site that made my time in SP memorable.

Enjoy!

Very good advice, Pluto2.

Even if I am build like an American football running back I never dare to venture alone in this part of the town. The idea to team up with another hobbyist (preferentially with experience) is a very good one.

My first trip in SP was very pleasant because I was helped by an experienced Brazilian hobbyist (and still very active on another board with more than a thousand posts).

The next time I'll travel to SP I will let you know and I will be pleased to share my knowledge with a newbie...

Full Throttle
01-10-06, 21:23
I was surprised to see that the consulate has a warning about R. Augusta stating that some number of Americans have been robbed here by garotas slipping drugs into their drinks at the "bars".

The only possibility would be Love Story, and that's not even on R. Augusta. I did have a street girl offer me a sip of what she was allegedly drinking, which I pretended to do. I never did see her drink it herself, but I'm 90% sure there was nothing sinister.

In the clubs, the girls really don't have that much to gain from drugging you. because the services are on-site and standard. Maybe there is a clip joint or two I don't know about.

I'm sure the government publishes some good warnings, and I think a guy could get in trouble on R. Augusta (outside), but MY OPINION is that the club warning is nonsense.

FT

JohnnyBlazze
01-12-06, 09:37
All,
I will be in Piracicaba in Feb. Has anyone heard of this place? I was told that it is about an hour outside of Sau Paulo. I will be there for work, and so would like to have some evening activities. Are there any Termas or Clinicas, Clubs. Anything at all?

Thanks,
Johnny B

Sui Generis
01-12-06, 18:59
all,
i will be in piracicaba in feb. has anyone heard of this place? i was told that it is about an hour outside of sau paulo. i will be there for work, and so would like to have some evening activities. are there any termas or clinicas, clubs. anything at all?

thanks,
johnny b

hi johnny b.

for escorts, you can try this agency (which is located in campinas):

http://www.aonde.com/clique/clique.php?id_site=7537&url=http://www.gatasdecampinas.com.br/

you need to book at least two days in advance with the girls. are the pictures accurate? is this a bait and switch? i don't know....

[the distance between são paulo and piracicaba is 162 km (just a little less than 100 miles) and it is of 72 km (just over 40 miles) between campinas and piracicaba.]

in piracicaba you can find two boates:

felinas night club
rodovia do açucar

and genaro

there is one privê: 19: 3433-8967.

for tourism, you can visit these sites:

museu prudente de moraes
parque do mirante

and, finally, here's a list of retaurant:

aquarius rua boa morte, 1004. tel.: 3434-1235. 180 lugares. aberto diariamente, das 11h às 14h30. cc.: redeshop, visa e visa electron. t.: valeticket, tr, vr, visa refeição e cheque cardápio. estac.: na rua. sistema self-service (r$ 12,80 durante semana e r$ 14,80 sáb., dom. e fer.). destaque para carnes na brasa, massas e feijoada. aberto desde 1990.

árabe do issa rua tiradentes, 740. tel.: 3434-5019. 15 lugares. aberto diariamente a partir de 8h até o último cliente. cc. t.: não aceita. estac.: na rua. pratos típicos da culinária libanesa. sugestão: carneiro recheado (r$ 12). ambiente aconchegante. aberto desde 1974.

balalaika rua do porto, 1367. tel.: 3434-8509. 450 lugares (dois ambientes). de ***. à dom. a partir das 10h até o último cliente. cc.: mastercard. t.: todos. couvert; sex., sáb. e dom. (r$ 2). uma das especialidades da casa é a moqueca de peixe (r$ 23,90, para três pessoas). chope germânia (r$ 1,90). no domingo à tarde, o local se transforma em point de jovens, que se aglomeram na rua do porto para ouvir música e paquerar. aberto desde 1997.

bistecão pça. da catedral, 1045. tel.: 3422-4718/3432-2216. 80 lugares. aberto de seg. a sex. das 7h às 21h; sáb. das 8h às 12h; dom. das 8h às 12h. t.: todos. estac.: conveniado. o prato principal leva o nome do tradicional restaurante piracicabano (r$ 9,80 a r$ 16). aberto desde 1983.

bravíssimo rua gomes carneiro, 1080. tel.: 3402-6336. 55 pessoas.
cc.: não aceita. t.: não aceita. funciona de qua. à sex., a partir das 18h (com happy hour) até o último cliente. sáb. e dom., a partir das 12h até o último cliente. estac. na rua. o coração do restaurante é a cozinha italiana, que fabrica suas próprias massas. o destaque vai para o ravioli com recheio de abóbora e pancetta com molho de manteiga e aromatizada com sálvia (r$ 20, para duas pessoas). atendimento ao mesmo tempo vip e descontraído. recém inaugurado.

café lisboa rua do rosário, 500. tel.: 3402-2888. 120 lugares. funciona de seg. a qui., das 10h às 23h. sex. e sáb, das 10h à 0h. dom., das 11h às 15h30. cc.:visa, credicard. t.: tr e vr.. estac.: com manobrista (r$ 5). couvert: r$ 4. recém-restaurado, o prédio abrigava a sede da sociedade beneficente portuguesa. hoje funciona como um centro gastronômico, cultural e de lazer com livraria, cafeteria, cyber, lojas de cd e dvd, além do restaurante, que serve pratos como o filé mignon ao molho mostarda (r$ 22). aberto desde 2003.

casaretto rua aquilino pacheco, 412. tel.: 3433-6785. 90 lugares. almoço das 11h às 14h30 (***. a sex.). jantar das 18h30 às 23h30 (***. a qui.). sáb. das 11h às 15h e das 18h até o último cliente. dom. das 11h às 15h30 e das 18h30 às 23h. cc: todos. t.: não aceita. estac.: na rua: ambiente aconchegante e excelente culinária italiana. sugestão: talharim à moda polpa de tomate, tiras de filé mignon, azeitonas pretas e champinhon (r$ 18). aberto desde 1990.

chicken house av. limeira, 722 (shopping piracicaba). tel.: 3421-5963. aberto diariamente das 10h às 22h30. sáb. até as 23h e dom., das 12h às 22h.cc.: não aceita. t.: vr,tr, transcheck, cabesp e cheque cardápio. estac.: no shopping. serve lanches e pratos rápidos, com destaque para o frango xadrez (r$ 7). aberto desde 1987.

cupim do tchê av. independência, 1086. tel.: 3411-4445. 400 lugares. aberto diariamente para o almoço, das 11h às 15h (bufê e rodízio) e das 17h30 até o último cliente. cc.: mastercard e redeshop. t.: vr. estac.: próprio com segurança. happy hour das 17h30 às 18h30 (r$ 1,50). chope brahma (r$ 2,10). a especialidade da casa é o cupim do tchê (r$ 16,90). ambiente descontraído. opção para um pit stop no final da tarde. aberto desde 2002.

empório da batata rua alferes josé caetano, 687. tel.: 3422-4488. 60 lugares. aberto diariamente a partir das 18h30. sáb. e dom. a partir das 12h. cc. e t.: não aceita. estac.: com segurança. a proposta do restaurante são os pratos à base de batata. a sugestão é o nhoque ao sugo (r$ 9,50). música ambiente. aberto desde 2000.

galo de ouro rua do rosário, 2169. tel.: 3422-4351. 130 lugares. aberto diariamente, das 11h às 14h30 e das 18h às 23h. cc.: mastercard e rede shop, diners, maestro. t.: não aceita. estac.: próprio. self-service com oito tipos de saladas e 17 pratos quentes (r$ 5,50 por pessoa, de seg. a sex.); sáb. (r$ 5,90) e dom., r$ 6,50. lugar amplo, com decoração rústica. aberto desde1984.

habib’s av. independência, 1929, tel.: 3422-8777. 180 lugares. aberto de dom. a qui.. das 11h à 0h; sex. e sáb., das 11h às 2h. t.: vr, tr e cheque cardápio. estac.: próprio. além das famosas esfirras a preços camaradas, também faz sucesso o prato primavera, com charuto de repolho, uva, cafta e abobrinha recheada (r$ 6,50). em 2000, a filial de piracicaba ganhou o prêmio de melhor restaurante da rede habib’s. aberto desde 1995.

hobby’s bear av. limeira, 722 (shopping piracicaba). tel.: 3421-5270. 30 lugares. funciona diariamente das 10h às 22h. cc.: todos. t.: vr,tr e cheque cardápio. estac.: no shopping. o frango xadrez é um dos pratos do sistema self-service (r$ 15,80 o quilo), que também apresenta variedade em carnes, massas e saladas, além de pizzas, lanches e porções. o local também tem mesas de confraria, um convite para o final de tarde com os amigos. chope (r$ 2,30). aberto desde 1988.

le gourmet rua são josé 1.164. tel.: 3433-4672. 120 lugares. funciona de seg. a sex., das 6h30 às 9h30; das 11h30 às 14h30 e das 19h às 23h. sáb. e dom. apartir das 11h para almoço edas 19h às 24h para o jantar. cc.: todos. estacionamento próprio. inaugurado recentemente, o mais novo restaurante da cidade oferece café da manhã e um cardápio com 25 pratos de excelente culinária internacional. destaque para o cordeiro le gourmet, um mix de cordeiro com molho à base de tomilho, com guarnição e cuzcuz marroquino. ambiente sofisticado.

luíno rua luiz razera, 550. jardim elite. tel.: 3411-7445. 160 lugares. funciona de ***. a sáb. a partir das 17h até o último cliente. almoço aos dom., das 11h às 16h. cc.: visa. t.:não aceita. estac. s/manobrista. oferece massas, grelhados, peixes, porções e sobremesas feitas na casa. chope antárctica (r$ 2,30 e r$ 1,60 no happy hour) e carta de vinhos. ambiente simples e elegante, área interna e externa com jardim. música ambiente. sugestão: torteloni da casa (recheado com bacalhau, rúcula e catupiry, r$ 18). aceita reservas. aberto desde 2002.

mirante pça antônio benitez, s/n. tel.: 3421- 4000. 200 lugares. aberto diariamente das 11h às 23h. cc.: visa. t.: não aceita. estac.: sem manobrista. couvert (não divulga o preço). um dos restaurantes mais tradicionais da cidade, à margem do piracicaba. é conhecido pelo famoso pintado na brasa (não divulga o preço). aberto desde 1963.

pantanal av. carlos botelho, 870, tel.: 3434-4472/3433-7376. 300 lugares. aberto diariamente a partir das 11h. cc.: todos. t.: todos. estac.: sem manobrista. no almoço, self-service com 120 tipos de pratos (r$ 7,50 por pessoa) à vontade. no jantar, rodízio de pizzas com 60 sabores acompanhando mesa de frios, bufê de massas, saladas e salgadinhos, tudo incluso no preço. sex. e sáb. (r$ 11,50 por pessoa) de dom. a qui. (r$ 10,50 por pessoa). ambiente temático, com playground, carep001a artificial e aquário. aberto desde 2000.

ponto 71 av. carlos martins sodero, 71, tel.: 3422-6213. 150 lugares. aberto diariamente das 11h às 15h e das 18h à 1h. cc.: todos. t.: todos. sugestão: filé ponto 71 (r$ 19). chope brahma. três ambientes amplos com varanda, área coberta e descoberta. aberto desde 1988.

rasscass rua bom jesus, 54, tel.: 3435-7505 e 3422-4777. 100 lugares. aberto de ***. a sex. a partir das 19h. sáb. e dom. no almoço e jantar. cc.: american express, mastercard, visa e diners club. t.: não aceita. couvert: r$ 5,30. estac.: com manobrista. com requintada cozinha internacional. sugestão: filé ao molho de mostarda e risoto de aspargos (r$ 29). ambiente refinado e com decoração contemporânea. aberto desde 2000.

petisco e cia av. alidor pecorari, 33. tel.: 3432-4414. aberto de ***. a sex., das 16h à 24h. sáb. e dom., das 9h à 24h. aceita reservas. cc.: não aceita. t.: vr, tr, cheque cardápio e transcheck. estac.: s/ manobrista. a especialidade da casa são os peixes, mas o cardápio também traz opções de pratos à base de aves e carnes vermelhas. de ***ça a sexta, a partir das 16h e no almoço de sábado, o restaurante oferece rodízio de peixes e frutos do mar. a melhor água de coco da cidade.

pravda music lounge. avenida armando de salles oliveira, 2280. tel.: 3433-1144. 600 lugares. aberto de ***. a sáb., a partir das 17h30. sáb., happy hour apartir das 18h. cc.: vida e credicard. estac. em frente ao local. (r$ 6). a mais nova casa noturna da cidade é moderna, requintada e aconchegante. sua estrutura é composta por três ambientes: uma pista de dança com capacidade para 200 pessoas, restaurante também para 200 pessoas, um espaço destinado a eventos sociais, e outro a quem gosta de degustar um bom charuto. o restaurante, comandado pelo chef christiano nasser, oferece pratos como o baby back ribs ao molho barbecue (r$ 21), que acompanha batata assada e salada. entre os drinks, destaca-se o black iceberg (blavod, curação blue e soda, r$ 9). aberto desde 2003.

são paulo av. são paulo, 81. tel.: 3434-0739. 55 lugares. aberto de seg. a sáb., das 7h às 17h. aceita todos os tickets-restaurante. sugestão: virado à paulista (r$ 7,30). comida 100% caseira em ambiente familiar. aberto desde 1980.

tratoria de piero rua dona eugênia, 2239, vila independência. tel.: 3433-5451. cc.t.: não aceita. aberto de quin. a sáb., das 18h às 23h. sáb. e dom. aberto para o almoço. estac.: s/ manobrista. ar-condicionado. as massas são a especialidade do restaurante, que também oferece pratos à la carte e saladas. na sex. à noite, sáb. e dom. no almoço, o restaurante oferece rodízio com sete tipos de massas e mesa de saladas. uma das especialidades da casa é fettuchini ao funghi porcini (massa acompanhada de medalhão de filé mignon). aceita reservas.

vida leve rua são joão, 252. tel.: 3434-9703. 80 lugares. funciona de seg. a sex., das 10h às 23h. sáb. e dom., das 16h às 23h. cc.: não aceita. t.: todos. estacionamento próprio. o restaurante oferece um bom cardápio de sucos (50 tipos) feitos com frutas naturais, vitaminas e o famoso açaí na tigela, além de lanches naturais como o piamonteze, com peito de peru, rúcula, tomate seco e queijo provolone, no pão sírio (r$ 5). disk entrega. aberto desde 2001

enjoy your trip.

Prosal
01-12-06, 19:51
Good info SG.

I'd add that Piracicaba is in the heart of the 'brasilian Texas', between Americana and Bauru. There's a LOT of Texas imitation in this area, with rodeos (the world's biggest rodeo event is held in Barretos), good country -sertaneja- music, tons of classy model-type 'country girls', and a VERY good nightlife.

Sui Generis
01-12-06, 20:32
... tons of classy model-type 'country girls', and a VERY good nightlife.

It's the paradise of what we call in Brazilian slang (gíria) Maria Breteira: girls who loved farmers, cowboys and rodeo artists.

Giddy up!!!!!!!!!

JohnnyBlazze
01-12-06, 20:51
Sui G - I really appreciate the info. Thanks for taking the time. Could you tell me what a boates is? is it like a terma? what would be the rates, and are there a lot of girls there. Are the clubs you listed like Helpe in Rio?

Thanks,
Johnny

Sui Generis
01-12-06, 22:21
Could you tell me what a boates is? is it like a terma? what would be the rates, and are there a lot of girls there. Are the clubs you listed like Helpe in Rio?

Thanks,
Johnny

Boate is a Brazilian word coming from the French word: boîte. The meaning of this word [boîte/boate] is night club.

In France they say: Ce soir je vais (ou «je sors») en boîte [Tonight I'm going to a night club]

In Montreal we say: Ce soir je vais dans un club (We don't use the word «boîte»)

So, to wrap it up, Boate = Night Club.

Erotika, Barbarella, Frank's, Gunga Djin, Scheherazade, (in RJ) and Bahamas, Café Photo, Bomboa, (in SP) are all boate.

To answer your second question. No, it is not like a terma.


Expect to pay over R$100 for Felinas. It is described as the best club in town.
Inside, the girls ask for R$150. Never pay more than R$200.

Genaro (Piacicaba/Limeira). Expect to pay R$100 to R$150 for a girl.

RexG
01-13-06, 04:19
Boate is a Brazilian word coming from the French word: boîte. The meaning of this word [boîte/boate] is night club.
...
To answer your second question. No, it is not like a terma.Maybe a "boate" is not like a terma, but most termas call their bar/lounge/stripclub room a "boite".

Rex

Sui Generis
01-13-06, 06:56
First thing: The meaning of the word Piracicaba. This word comes from the tupi-guarani dialect and means: «place where the fishes stop»

The exact location of the city of Piracicaba is the following one:

Latitude: 22º43'31" (South)
Longitude: 47º38'57" (West)

The distance from São Paulo (centro) is 164 km. = 101.905 miles. I cannot be more precise than that!

In 2004, the city had 355 039 inhabitants.


I have the exact adress of Felina's:

Rod. do Açúcar, km 157,5 - Phone: (19) 3424-2754

and Genaro:

Av. Cruzeiro do sul, s/n - Phone: (19) 3421-4637

Davis150
01-18-06, 04:23
I stayed at the Hotel Cadoro last trip, had a huge room, and no guest charge because I was paying for the suite, but I'm wondering about the Mercure Jardins (?). What I liked about Cadoro is that it was well lit, huge rooms, no guest hassles, and within walking distance of Kilt and Big Bens. Any other hotels similarly situated and maybe a little cheaper? Thanks in advance.

Latina Addict
01-18-06, 20:53
For those multitudes the are PMíng me for the working mans locations, 8 floors, what is a boite, where is "wild eye", etc..... May I recommend doing a search for Latina Addict´s reports, and all is there for easy access and reference, as well as any other members posts that you desire to reference.
Just a suggestion for the ISG rookies.
Latina Addict

Lacamer
01-19-06, 15:55
I went last afternoon at about 4 pm to Eu &Elas. There were already about 10 to 15 girls. I will rate them from 7 to 9, there was one 10 but she did not look very friendly, poor smile.

I feel the atmosphere far not as good as in the Rio Terma, for example L’Uomo. Here the girls are just sitting at tables and wait, no one dance, rather quiet. Maybe the set up is not adapted to crate a nice atmosphere. It is also not so clean. Buffet was nice, but it was not the purpose of my visit. I start with a false blond of 27, she had nice body with real Brazilian ass. She makes me a fantastic bbbj and we continued with all the traditional positions. A good time but was a little unsatisfied. One hour later after some beers I decide to test another one. I had very nice eye contacts with a dark hair girl. She has a fantastic smile, nice tits and nice ass. She is 21 and her name is Raphaela. I had a more satisfying time with her. She likes to sucked and to be sucked. Again all the traditional positions have been applied. She was very active and not in a hurry. IT was good

This visit was good but I had better in Rio. I paid for each girl 150, plus 50 for the room. Entrance fee is 79.

Prosal
01-20-06, 14:13
I stayed at the Hotel Cadoro last trip, Any other hotels similarly situated and maybe a little cheaper? Thanks in advance.

The former Mercure Centro on rua Araujo. It's now managed by Atlantica and named 'Comfort Hotel Downtown'.

Pro

Kendo
01-21-06, 23:32
I was in Sao Paulo a couple of weeks ago and had a chance to take some customers out to the clubs. We tried Cafe Millinium on the advice of a friend. It had very high quality girs that you can take up to the rooms there for 200 R. The room cost another 70 R and the entrance is like 80 R. But did I mention that quality is high 7s, 8s, maybe 9s.

Another night we went to KILT. The chick there were older, harder looking, and were overly pumped up silicon sisters. Not my kind of place. I'd rather pay a little more for younger, hotter chicks like Millinium.

Surfing71
01-26-06, 22:13
On Monday 23rd of January 2006, I was in SP and got some time to kill. Despite the uncertainty on wether Bomboa was a still a good place or not, I decided to check it by myself. So went to Bomboa at around 5 PM. Some few girls ranging from 3 to 6. real pros. stayed there and had some beers and listened to the live band (good). at around 7PM there were more people (men and Garotas) and some garotas flirting with 8 on the scale.

I discussed with some girls until 8PM, still a dead place as compare to Bomboa at the great time (7 month back in time, to my personal experience).

I had finished my six beer (at around 9PM) when I spotted a brunette (Face: 8,5/10, body 10/10). shes name is Luciana. I asked her to get out from the club with me. As it was very early and she just arrived, we agree on 300 reais plus taxi, without a Limitation in time. I paid the 100 R$ to get her out from Bomboa and we went to a churrascaria called Jadiniera Grill. I speak no portuguese, she speaks no english, my spanish is very poor and shes as well, but we found a way to com***icate (we even discussed about the God existence while have meat!!!). She also told me that she is student at the university and that it was her first week to work in Boate.

We went back to my hotel (Gran estanplaza which is by the way very girl friendly). Had a good sex session (uncovered BJ plus normal sex). Performances in Bed: 7,5/10, a bit passive to my taste.

On wednesday night and was tired and did not wan to got in a Boate, so, called Luciana. She arrived one hour later. we had a drink and she stayed the whole night. average sex session (she is passive as said before).

I gave her 220 R$ in the morning. she was a bit desappointed and I promised to call here again and that I will do better the next time. Not so sure I will call her.

On Bomboa, it is still open, but it is only the "shadow" of the bomboa as it use to be. If you knew Bomboa before, you will certainly be desapointed.

On Luciana, Overall, very GFE, costly anyway, and average/good performances in bed (not excellent).

PM me should need her phone

Surfing71

Davis150
01-27-06, 03:32
Has anyone been to both Hotel Ca'd'Oro and Mecure Jardins and can tell me the +'s and -'s of both? Is Mecure Jardins within walking distance of the action? Thanks.

Member #4643
01-27-06, 03:47
Has anyone been to both Hotel Ca'd'Oro and Mecure Jardins and can tell me the +'s and -'s of both? Is Mecure Jardins within walking distance of the action? Thanks.

No. It is within taxi distance of all of Sao Paulo, and very, very girl friendly. In addition, the internet access is excellent. And its not expensive, a real plus for a businessman like me (I am the boss, so every penny I spend on the company is money that I personally lose).

I go to Sao Paulo on business, and spend my nights pursuing the ladies. The Mercure is perfect for this combination of needs. But for a pure mongering trip, you can probably find a better place. I should add that if you have the money, you will never find a better place than Sao Paulo for mongering. And its still 1/3 the cost of New York.

One word of warning. There are no hotels that are within walking distance of the action in Sao Paulo. Its simply too dangerous to walk on the streets of Sao Paulo at night.

Surfing71
01-29-06, 16:35
Saturday is not a good day for mongering. It is kind of family day when brazilians go out with their wives. I discovered that yesterday, unfortunately. I went to Bomboa yesterday (I am nostalgic) at 4PM and it was completely dead: less that 12 girls of which 1 top Model.I asked for her rete and she said R$800!!. I offered R$400 plus a good dinner and she declined.

I then took a taxi to Cafe Millenium, for my very first time. There were more people than Bomboa, some nice girls. The girls look more aggressive here. I spotted a tall blond girl with black eyes, not really a top model, but she looked nice and friendly. she offered her service for R$500 TLN, we bargained down to R$300. The deal was R$ 300 mini, plus incentive, depending on the Service Level.

We went back at the hotel, good dinner (room service). Then she gave me the best BBBJ ever and good fuck. She does not offer Anal, but it was OK.

She gave me another wake up BBBJ in the morning, and again very good fuck.I gave her R$340, which is good amount for the service and friendship provided.

This girl has the smallest tits I have ever seen in Brazil. She is thinking at enhancing her tits, which to me is not a great idea, I think it will destroy the harmony of her body and she will become just another girl with enhanced tits.

That my opinion.

Surfing71

Member #4643
01-29-06, 19:39
I am beginning to gear up for my winter trip to Brazil. This will be trip number 11 in a little over two years. As I will be passing through Sao Paulo on Thursday night (by far thebest night of the week in Sao Paulo), not much research is necessary Milennium is on my schedule, although I may spring for the big bucks and check out Cafe Foto- never been there. Or, Bahamas, where the last time I went I practically needed a second mortgage to pay for my excesses (dinner, muito scotch whiskey and my first foursome).

My days in Sao Paulo usually involve some intense work and then a lunch break involving a Garota de Programa from one of the Sao Paulo web sites. This lady, Gabriela Lins, is amazingly well reviewed on the Brazilian boards, but I could not find a real photo of her. Has anyone on the board driven her, and if so is she worth the ride? Its not that I don't trust GPGuia.net, but the Brazilians mark anybody up a few grades just for doing anal sex. I on the other hand, am interested in the complete package (beauty, great BBBJ, natural lubrication that leaves the bed soaking, willingness to do anything I ask, sense of humor, etc). Please pm me or respond on the board if you know her. Suggestions for other GPs are welcome. Many thanks!

Davis150
01-29-06, 21:18
Sabrina Love a.k.a Sabrina Coutch
Bruna Spynelli
Karen Roche

You can find their numbers via GPGuia.

Starfe
01-31-06, 18:29
http://www.cnn.com/2006/TRAVEL/01/31/oslo.cost.reut/index.html

In Latin America, the two biggest jumps came in Brazil, with Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo climbing 22 places to joint 87th on the back of a 25 percent rise in the currency and rising consumer prices.

Euro100
02-01-06, 02:53
http://www.cnn.com/2006/TRAVEL/01/31/oslo.cost.reut/index.html

In Latin America, the two biggest jumps came in Brazil, with Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo climbing 22 places to joint 87th on the back of a 25 percent rise in the currency and rising consumer prices.

Oh yes, that makes sense. I gues you will go mongering in Tehran now, which is in 130th place, according to the same list ;)

Let's see: bunda on the beach, terma in the evening, and an all-nighter with take-home from Help! in the 87th most expensive city :) or burka-covered female and death penalty for mongering in the 130th most expensive city :( Hmmm, that's a tough call.

euro

Full Throttle
02-01-06, 21:27
Actually, Iran wouldn't be so bad.

They're into kinky stuff. They have you put on a blindfold and expertly tie your hands behind your back. Sessions go on for days and weeks at a time. Sometimes, they videotape you and broadcast it. Best, you don't have to pay until the end of the session. For info, www.infidelsextours.com

FT

JohnnyBlazze
02-04-06, 05:14
I went last afternoon at about 4 pm to Eu &Elas. There were already about 10 to 15 girls. I will rate them from 7 to 9, there was one 10 but she did not look very friendly, poor smile.

I feel the atmosphere far not as good as in the Rio Terma, for example L’Uomo. Here the girls are just sitting at tables and wait, no one dance, rather quiet. Maybe the set up is not adapted to crate a nice atmosphere. It is also not so clean. Buffet was nice, but it was not the purpose of my visit. I start with a false blond of 27, she had nice body with real Brazilian ass. She makes me a fantastic bbbj and we continued with all the traditional positions. A good time but was a little unsatisfied. One hour later after some beers I decide to test another one. I had very nice eye contacts with a dark hair girl. She has a fantastic smile, nice tits and nice ass. She is 21 and her name is Raphaela. I had a more satisfying time with her. She likes to sucked and to be sucked. Again all the traditional positions have been applied. She was very active and not in a hurry. IT was good

This visit was good but I had better in Rio. I paid for each girl 150, plus 50 for the room. Entrance fee is 79.

Lacamer,
I will be in Sau Paulo 2nd week in Feb, I have been to Rio before and loved the Terma's there. Could you get me info on where Terma Eu & Elas is located. Also are there any other Termas in SP that you would recommend.

Thanks,
Johnny B

Sir Charles
02-04-06, 17:36
So I'm looking at this webiste http://www.erosguide.com.br/HOME.htm and the lion's share of the babes are fine as hell. Has anyone tried this agency? Do tell, is it real or bait and switch? Are there any ladies you would recommend?

Andre3000
02-05-06, 02:56
I'm sure most of you guys heard this story many times but..I met a girl in Bomboa on my last night in SP. I suddenly felt those butterflies in my stomach. She's my age (we're pretty young), gorgeous.. A good girl, I can tell.. Anyways, here comes the problem part I was trying to avoid the whole trip; although all of the working girls I've been with Brazil were 100% GFE and 8's-10's, I've never experienced anything like this before. My whole life. This was maybe too GFE for me.. I've never had a real GF looking at me with those eyes before. And she did not look desperate. She actually looked very cool to me. We spent the night together.. She speaks '0' English, I speak no Portuguese. So that was tough. She knew I was leaving in the morning. I gave her 200R (I know it's not much for the most amazing night of my life but it actually hurt even to pay for that at that time) before we said goodbye. She took my numbers as if I'd understand what she says if she ever calls me and gave me her cell and home number (do they ever give their home numbers?).

So people, how do you tell if a Brazilian girl is actually in love? I'm 10000 miles away from the girl and it still hurts. She knows I'm young, she knows I don't have much to give to a working girl.. I'm very confused. I'd appreciate your comments but please keep in mind that I already know it's not a good thing to fall in love with a hooker but still I'd not give a damn as long as we're happy together.

Obrigado,

A.A

Mahal
02-06-06, 04:04
Hello Andre Alfani,

I was intrigued by your last report. Sounds like the classic beginner falls in love with working girl stuff, but on the other hand this shit happens, trust me I know. Depends how old you are and how experienced (25 years in Istanbul you said?) and how smart she is.

I have met girls who cried when I left, that I never heard of afterwards, girls who did not care but wrote to me because they figured I was an easy customer and then a couple who I have not seen in years, who still write to tell how much they care. One of them is Brazilian, does not speak english, was a pro when I met her (now married and no longer working) and made sure she spent the last night before her wedding, with me... She is in love, although I have told her many times I am not.

...And of course they give their home number, they are human and the truth is that many of the girls who have not been in the business for long will quit for the right opportunity. Not all of them love their jobs, in spite of the fact that we are all casanovas. But then, beware of Piranhas, they will spot the sentimals and suck them to the bone, if you see what I mean.

Time and distance can be good tests imho. You will find out when you see her again, when it hurts to think of what she's been doing in the interim, by her answer when you ask her to quit... It's your story, no one can tell you how to live it, sometimes the girls are sincere and sometimes they are not. Ask her to quit her job, that is the #1 reality check. Same thing as when a married guy falls in love with a younger girl and she asks him to divorce, reality check, "sorry honey bunny, I love you so much but I can't".

The most likely comments you will draw on this site, coming from my fellows experienced mongers are "runaway"! They are right, but sometimes you just don't want to. And it's nice to see the same girl again, you can skip all the BS and resume where you left the last time, that is kind of the perfect setting for sentimentals. The only problem can be that fine line between love and GFE as you said. I have crossed it many times, I am almost living on the other side now, the problem is that both are addictive.

I will be in Sao Paulo tomorrow, which is why I was reading this thread, does anyone know a good place to go mongering near Garulhos (staying at the Sofitel Ibirapuera)?

Thanks

Mahal

Perkele
02-06-06, 07:09
So people, how do you tell if a Brazilian girl is actually in love? I'm 10000 miles away from the girl and it still hurts.

Yes she's definately in love, with your wallet and next guy's wallet and next guy's wallet and so on.

Reality check please. Let's put together some facts about brasilian working girls. 99,998% of them are doing their best to make their customers to think that girl is in love with them. This is because some fools actually beleive these girls and keep sending money to them while they are away. It doesn't matter how little they can squeeze out of you because they get it without doing anything. Trust me she doesn't love you, just your money.

You also say that you don't care about her being a ho. Well yeah you're "in love". Think about the day when you wake up realising that your "girlfriend" is doing anything between 5 - 10 guys per week, minimum. Multiply that with numbers of the weeks in a year and you get a number of the different guys she's been with while you were away. Nevertheless that will be hundreds of customers.

Its hard now, but trust me next time you'll find another ho just like her and then another and another. So don't go there and beleive in her love to you. There is plenty of fish in Brasil and if you really want, you can find a girl who wouldn't fuck for money and with whom you might be able to have a normal relationship.
Study portuguese, go back and find a normal girl. They are everywhere...

Prosal
02-06-06, 09:39
does anyone know a good place to go mongering near Garulhos (staying at the Sofitel Ibirapuera)?

Sofitel Ibirapuera is near Congonhas. There's some good options in Moema, like Bahamas.

Pro

Lacamer
02-06-06, 09:43
Lacamer,
I will be in Sau Paulo 2nd week in Feb, I have been to Rio before and loved the Terma's there. Could you get me info on where Terma Eu & Elas is located. Also are there any other Termas in SP that you would recommend.

Thanks,
Johnny B

Hi,
I am not very familiar with SP Termas. It was my first time mongering in SP. There are some good reports summerizing all the SP options. Eu & Elas is located 494 rua Pires da Mota, near Metro Verguera, near Centro Cultural de SP, but I will not recommand to go by foot. I would not feel very comfortable walking through this rather quiet area. Better, from the metro station take a taxi, it is a short drive. To come back the Eu & Elas people will order a taxi for you. There are also radio taxi in SP.It is good to have their phone number with you, it can help. Beginnig of March I will be in SP again and I will surely go again there...... There are quite nice chicas.........

Ray

Andre3000
02-06-06, 17:50
Dear Mahal,

Thank you very much for your comments. It helped a lot because you've read my post carefully and told about your own experiences.

I was actually expecting such BS comments from other fellows here. By the way, FYI; the girl called me yesterday and we talked (tried to talk) for about 10 minutes. She was calling my local cell from his local cell so that must cost around R$3 or something/minute. Ohh so I squeezed a little out of her, wow. Now why would I ever think like that? Why would you think I'd send her money? I never said I knew her. Please read the posts carefully. I never told anyone I was rich or I have a thick wallet (I don't). I was just wondering if anyone of you had sentimental experiences like that. And I'm sorry but I'm not into fish! I love women -as long as they're sincere-. No matter where they come from and what they do. And I have English-speaking girlfriends also in Brazil. It's not the first time I fell in love. It's not about that. I still think it's a very interesting thing.

Now I know better. Not every girl is the same and I've seen more fucked up guys than girls in those clubs believe me. Every person has a story, every person has his/her lies. My story might be different than yours. And probably is..

Thanks for your time anyway,

A.A

Lancer520
02-07-06, 21:47
I sent you a PM in regards to your dilema as I have a similar story. All I will tell you is trust your instincts. Usually a girl will not call you 10,000 miles away if there's not something there. The fact that she called you to me says a lot. Good luck, and I hope it works out for you.

Starfe
02-11-06, 16:12
Sao Paulo is becoming a distant memory. I'm so glad I got my licks in.

Starfe

John Corey
02-13-06, 01:43
I passed thru SP twice in the past two weeks, stopping one night each time. Aside from Bahamas, it is all downhill. The quality at Bahamas beats Cafe Photo hands down. I have had great experiences from Mcclass and Ellas and Chantilly, however, after this trip I think I will seek other destinations. I was quoted some real absurd numbers.

BTW, bait and swicth is rampant, even the famous Sabrina Coutch pulled that on me a few days ago! Caveat Emptor when it comes to Sabrina Alves, everything is covered and there is a stopwatch embedded in her little head, a real thumbs down on her.

JC

JohnnyBlazze
02-14-06, 01:48
Guys,
I was in SP Sunday nite and went to Bahamas. I paid 125R to get in, 99R for a room and 300 for a girl. The girl was hot as hell, but I did not much of a GFE feel out of it. I think this was really expensive, the girl wanted 400 and I talked her down. Is this the kind of prices I should expect for an hour of lack luster play? Is there any place in SP that resembles Help (Rio) where I can take a girl back home for the nite for 300R? This is what I was hoping for, if not, then I am going to skip the weekend and fly back home early. Any insite would be most helpful. Would hate to leave Brazil so early and disappointed.

Thanks,
Johnny B

Ee2002
02-14-06, 02:34
Johnny B,

I can't help you as far as Sp action,but If I were you I would buy an open end round trip ticket from CONG to SDU(rio domestic airport) for the weekend and come back to Sp right before you head back to the states.International to international (GRU-GIG) may be cheaper but fewer flights.

I'm not much of an SP expert but have you checked out Love story? That might be cheaper than those expensive SP boates.

Full Throttle
02-14-06, 15:11
You can do a search for my posts. I've never paid a girl more than 200 for TLN. I'm not necessarily an expert, but I don't sifting through a lot of riff-raff to find a deal that is palatable to me.

In short, you can do that well at any of the Strip clubs around Kilt. Girls there readily go for 150-200, and will happily agree to extended time, or tln. Add about 80 in your drink and hers.

Maison, the New Maison, Night House, Balneiro Club and the one next to that are much cheaper on-site, and a bit complicated for takeout. For some reason, they think you should pay for everything before you leave.

EU and Elas seems like about 60% of the termas quality, and about the same price.

ALL of the massage parlors I have tried have been very good to fantastic. Price 80-150 reals.

Short of that, hang around, eat beef, look at pretty girls and enjoy the weather. Home will still be there in a few days!

FT

Member 9578
02-14-06, 15:43
Johny,

Sunday is always slow, the city is much better Monday-Thursday

Bahamas is full of sharks you have to screen girls very carefully. I normally dont go up to the rooms there, if I find a girl I like will meet her outside of there.

A more reasonable place close to Bahamas is American show. Not as high end as Bahamas but can find lots more down to earth girls.

http://www.americanshow.com.br/2005/eng_index.htm
av. dos carinás, 318 - MOEMA
5042-3579 / 5042-3593
Cant remeber price of entrance, but it included several drinks. Girls were around 100R. I am sure you can get out of there under 200R including drinks

Love story is probably the closest thing to Help. My experience is its a little rough late at night.

Good Luck

Bandy
02-14-06, 17:42
Guys,
I was in SP Sunday nite and went to Bahamas. I paid 125R to get in, 99R for a room and 300 for a girl. The girl was hot as hell, but I did not much of a GFE feel out of it. I think this was really expensive, the girl wanted 400 and I talked her down. Is this the kind of prices I should expect for an hour of lack luster play? Is there any place in SP that resembles Help (Rio) where I can take a girl back home for the nite for 300R? This is what I was hoping for, if not, then I am going to skip the weekend and fly back home early. Any insite would be most helpful. Would hate to leave Brazil so early and disappointed.

Thanks,
Johnny B
JB,

You ended up picking an expensive club. For a high end club, you didn't do too bad. I actually took out one from Bahamas for 300 Real for TLN. She happened to stay more than 14 hours. I also did an onsite encounter in Bahamas and paid 200 Real.

As FT said, for less money, concentrate on centro clubs. I usually paid 150 -200 Real for TLNs from Kilt, My Love and others. I normally don't partake on site in these clubs. But that can be done for 100 Real per hour.

Love Story in centro will be a very distant second to HELP. But be careful there. It does not really start before 4 AM, very loud and lots of drug users. However, you can make cheap deals, 100 -150 Reals.

Bandy

Royalflush
02-14-06, 19:10
It's not like Help, but they have good music, dancing, and lots of girls. Prices may have gone up, but I took a girl (Anna Paula) out of Bomboa a year and a half ago for R200, which is a reasonable price. There was no negotiation. My offer of R200 was accepted immediately. She was young, hot, and willing to do everything. Great sense of humor. In fact, she wanted to spend the next day with me. Also wanted to do anal first thing in the morning. Left me her panties as a souvenir.

Bomboa was fun with a very festive atmosphere, and I thought the management was helpful. They initially sent over a pretty, slim, English-speaking girl to me, without me even asking. She was very friendly, kissing, grabbing, but I traded her in only because she had plans to go away for the weekend early the next day (I wanted to have the option to stay with someone more than one day). I do speak some Portugese, so English skills were not required. The whole experience was quite positive. Sounds like an ad for Bomboa, but I really did have a great experience.

Bandy
02-14-06, 20:04
Entrance to Bomboa is now 132 Real (includes bunch of drinks) and exit fee for the garota is 100 Real. I took out one last August, just because the club was closing and Vaderley waived the exit fee. I paid the girl 150 Real for few hours. Bomboa has lots of girls but, if you are looking for eye-candies, they are certainly several notchs below their counterparts in Bahamas, although fun can be had, regardless. The bottom line is that clubs in Sao Paulo are generally getting very expensive. However, if you can speak the language a little, you have a good chance to do much better than the average mongers in terms of garota price. Nothing you can do about the covers, though. Just avoid the expensive clubs. I totally agree with John Corey (few posts below) regarding Cafe Foto (entrance 190 Real). A highly overhyped place, at this point. Garotas are quoting arms and legs and they are not that desirable. These are all my personal reflections of these places. Your opinions can be totally different.

Bandy

Pluto2
02-14-06, 20:35
Read the directory in the SP Directory thread.

SP has hundreds of locations you can hit. Photo and Bahamas are two of the most expensive in a town with a lot of money. There is no Help in SP.

Across the street from Kilt the clubs are more reasonable.

There are probably 30 great massage parlors which don't exist in Rio. These are clean, safe, nice staff and the prices are good. There are many stars working in these places.

I thought the termas were OK but not great. Compared to the FKKS in Germany, the FKKs are better. Not to say Termas are bad.

Strongly suggest you check out the clinicas, many great ones.

If you want to go out for a beer after or dinner, there a thousand great places some of which cater to English speakers and are repeatedly listed below.

JohnnyBlazze
02-15-06, 01:46
Guys,
It sounds like Love Story is the only place I can go to that is a dance club that has girls that do not work for the house. Meaning all the girls are take out service. This is exactly what I am looking for, if there is no other place like this in SP, then I will be going there Thursday nite, I hope to have a safe and happy report to you. If anyone else is planning on going there, please let me know. There is safety in numbers. Man I miss Help.

Johnny B

Full Throttle
02-15-06, 15:48
Guys,
It sounds like Love Story is the only place I can go to that is a dance club that has girls that do not work for the house. Man I miss Help.

Johnny B

Remember, there are some big advantages to the girls having some ties to the house. Kilt, My Love, Cocktail and (probably) Big Ben DON'T really get you too bad for takeout. They make their money from drink sales, which you can avoid other than the one that comes with your entrance and the compulsory one for the girl. Cocktail has instituted a program where they want you to buy 2 drinks, but I've declined both times, and they have not balked.

In fact, the clubs that I just mentioned may actually be more like Help than LoveStory. While I love it there, LoveStory is way, way too loud, too late, there are too many non-pros, and too many scammers. And, on the weekend, it is a catastrophic inferno waiting to take place. It took me 20 minutes to get to the stairs to go to the bathroom one night-- a 40' walk. And, did I mention that the DJ yells "LLLOOOVVVEEE SSSSTTTTOOOORRRRYYYYY" into the mic before, during, and after every song?

All this said, I'll probably be there next opportunity....

FT

QuackUp
02-16-06, 01:18
Does anyone know if there are any love hotels or decent hotels near the international airport? I won't be going back until August but I do have a 5 hour layover before going to Rio and would like a little play time to kill the time. Thanks in advance.

Q

J Wadd
02-16-06, 01:52
There are a lot of them (of both kinds). The international hotels start about 1-2 miles outside of the terminal, and the love motels (and by the way, "motel" should suffice to distinguish one to a taxi driver) start a little further out. Both are doable in 5 hours -- problem is finding the garota. Sorry I don't have any names for the motels -- but I remember seeing them frequently in the 20 or so times I've made the drive from downtown.

Happy Hunting,
JWadd

Kinesics
02-16-06, 03:55
J Wadd,

It is good to see you back here. I've been laying low somewhat lately. I have changed my ID as I had a hunch that someone had tried to id me through my previous ID and other contacts throught the board. Nothing major. We still have to hook up one of these days.

QuackUp
02-16-06, 14:14
Thanks J wadd. Can you recomend one or are they all pretty good?

Q

J Wadd
02-18-06, 03:41
Hi, guys. I check the site every day. Most of the info/posts are pretty routine, so I don't really input much.

I hope to get back down there this summer. I'm still trying to beat my record from the second-to-last trip of 77 women in 60-ish days. Haha. Really. Ahem...

Anyway, I can't remember any of the hotels specifically. It seems almost all of the international chains are represented within 10 minutes down the freeway once outside the terminal.

As for love motels, they're all named with a suitably erogenous title. They're close too -- but not "next door" as the international ones are. (Maybe there are ones right next to the airport off the freeway a little. Dunno.)

Happy Hunting,
JWadd

JohnnyBlazze
02-20-06, 01:05
This is a shout out to khunjbl. He went out of his way to show me the ropes in SP. Opened my eyes to the Millenium club, which is an awesome club by the way, never paid more than R200, always got at least 2 pops. Helped me get take out (did all the negotiations). All in all I had a great time. Thanks again Bro, this is exactly what this board is all about.

Johnny B

Khunjbl
02-20-06, 05:19
JB,

My pleasure Bro... glad you had a goodtime. The talent is pretty strong at Cafe Millenium right now, no doubt.

Starfe
02-20-06, 14:14
I read on this board when it comes to prices and pops.

Starfe

JohnnyBlazze
02-20-06, 23:09
Believe what you want bro - its a free world. I have absolutely no reason to lie or exagerate.

Johnny B

Bandy
02-21-06, 17:08
Believe what you want bro - its a free world. I have absolutely no reason to lie or exagerate.

Johnny B
JB,

I have no choice but to believe you, because that's exactly what I paid. I wrote a detailed report about it during August '05. It is a very common on-site price, if you can speak the language a little.

Just a reminder for the mongering crowd---this is the only club I remembered that required to see my ID. So don't go to this place without it.

Bandy

Dancesw/Chicas
02-21-06, 20:55
Dear friends,
I need some info please.
I will be traveling from Miami to Guaruhlos arriving to SP at 8:15 pm
with Tam airlines. At 9:10 I am connecting to Porto Alegre with Varig.
Now, Do you guys think it is possible to do this schedule? How long on
average Americans expend waiting to pass airport checking? Do they
still take pictures and fingerprints?
I dont know if 55 minutes will b enough time...
Thanks

DWC

RexG
02-22-06, 03:23
Dear friends,
I need some info please.
I will be traveling from Miami to Guaruhlos arriving to SP at 8:15 pm
with Tam airlines. At 9:10 I am connecting to Porto Alegre with Varig.
Now, Do you guys think it is possible to do this schedule? How long on
average Americans expend waiting to pass airport checking? Do they
still take pictures and fingerprints?
I dont know if 55 minutes will b enough time...
Thanks

DWC

IMHO, you are cutting it too close, especially with the airline change. I'm not sure where you'll be required to clear passport control/customs. If in SP, you have little chance of making the connection. Don't check your bags.

Houston Player
02-22-06, 04:43
I tend to agree with RexG, 55 minutes is not much time for a connection even without customs. However I would call either Tam or Varig and confirm this but I think I remember that if you are connecting there is a seperate line to clear customs. I remember seeing signs and even a couple of airport employees directing people with connections to a different area. I was never connecting so I don't have personal experience with the process.

I also agree no checked bags. Although in my experience Sao Paulo is very fast in processing baggage.

Jean B
02-22-06, 23:34
Are there any places near GRU airport which are open reasonably early? I have a flight from GRU at 10pm and will arrive in the afternoon which means I have 5-6 hours to kill. I don´t fancy going into the city center though.

Genghis Khan
02-23-06, 15:13
I heard rumors of a new club, that's going to start activities in the beggining of this year.

I don't have the information about it's name yet, but it will be in the region of Moema (where Bahamas and other clubs are located).

An escort told me it's going to be as good as Bahamas, as soon as I get more information I'll post here.

And since I'm on vacation (from the university), my services will be avaliable almost every day in january.

For those who don't know, I'm a guide (for escort seekers) here in São Paulo and I got good reviews, for more information send me a PM or check my topic at http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=383988&postcount=2100

Thanks, and I wish the best for you all in 2006

Sampa Guide asked me to post this for him:
"As requested, the name of the new club is "Solid Gold". It will be located at Av. Ibirapuera (sorry, i don't know the number) in the region of Moema. They're having several delays to open, I have no idea why."

GK

Sampa Guide
02-27-06, 23:12
Sampa Guide asked me to post this for him:
"As requested, the name of the new club is "Solid Gold". It will be located at Av. Ibirapuera (sorry, i don't know the number) in the region of Moema. They're having several delays to open, I have no idea why."

GKThanks for posting this for me, Genghis. Looks like my account is back to normal and I'm able to post again.

I was just passing by and saw the place, seems like an upscale club, but it needs some work to look like a finished building. Looks like it will take some more time. By the way, it's very close to the Church square at moema.

Sampa Guide

Sampa Guide
02-27-06, 23:17
Are there any places near GRU airport which are open reasonably early? I have a flight from GRU at 10pm and will arrive in the afternoon which means I have 5-6 hours to kill. I don´t fancy going into the city center though.Probably the Connection Night Club is the closest good option that you can try from GRU.

If you need my help, just send me PM. I could pick you up at the airport and bring you back after you're done.

Bundaboy3
02-28-06, 00:11
With a 4 hour layover at Guarulias airport, where is the best place to find some quick action in the late afternoon. I am trying to determine whether or not it is worth pursuing.

I Jags
02-28-06, 07:12
Anyone knowing a good translator in Sao Paulo, let me know. English and Port speaking. Thanks. I will be there in May or June.

I Jags
02-28-06, 07:17
Feel free to private message me.

Genghis Khan
02-28-06, 07:23
Thanks for posting this for me, Genghis. Looks like my account is back to normal and I'm able to post again.

I was just passing by and saw the place, seems like an upscale club, but it needs some work to look like a finished building. Looks like it will take some more time. By the way, it's very close to the Church square at moema.

Sampa Guide

http://www.solidgold.com.br/e_resp.htm
Sounds like a strip club to me.

GK

Sampa Guide
02-28-06, 07:48
http://www.solidgold.com.br/e_resp.htm
Sounds like a strip club to me.

GKIndeed, that's the club. On this website they're saying it will start activities on March 6th. I will take a look in the first half of march, and post a report here.

Genghis Khan
02-28-06, 12:01
Sampa Guide,

May I ask what you know about this club? From the description on their webpage, it seems that this is a strip club - like a strip club in the US where you pay for lapdances. That is quite different from Bahamas - isn't it?

GK

Pluto2
02-28-06, 17:56
If it were me, I would walk up to a taxi driver that looks on the ball and ask what is close by that is "first class", open and very close. I have had great luck getting restaurants and other good locations this way. If you are not shy, ask the group of cabbies and see what you get. You can limit it to "no mas de cinco minutos de aqui" (sp)


One time in Ft. Lauderdale, the taxi drove me out of the airport, straight across the street and into the driveway of a stand alone business with no sign. 1 min from airport good quality and price. FTL was small time then but much better than today.

If you are not sure, have the taxi wait while you check the place out or ask him in with you then pay him; or pay him to wait for you at the restaurant across the street or next door.

Rua Maria C. De Mesquita 383- Centro - Guarulhos (Perto da Guaru Car)
Tel:6409-1089
Preço: $20 - 30 mim.
Casa pequena tem apenas dois quartos

Bruna = 9387-0124
Fotos: www.brunaguarulhos.********.com

Name: Michelle
Telephone: (11) 8506-9062
Price: R$ 200,00
Duration: 1:30 min
http://www.mclass.com.br/scripts/mclass...;retorno=1

Bbilly
02-28-06, 19:08
Anyone in SP want to go out tomorrow. I don't know the places here, I'm thinking of hiring the guide here on the board but maybe we could split it or go out together solo. My number here in SP is 81001321. Possibly tonight or Wednesday night is best. I'm fun and like to pick up regular girls too.

Sampa Guide
03-01-06, 17:48
Sampa Guide,

May I ask what you know about this club? From the description on their webpage, it seems that this is a strip club - like a strip club in the US where you pay for lapdances. That is quite different from Bahamas - isn't it?

GKAs I see on their website, it's "officially" declared as a strip club. But since we're on Brazil, it will surely be directed also for escort sexual services.

Anyway, it seems they will be the best club for lap dancing, because we don't have great strip clubs in São Paulo.

Sampa Guide

Bundaboy3
03-04-06, 20:42
With a 4 hour layover at Guarulias airport, where is the best place to find some quick action in the late afternoon. I am trying to determine whether or not it is worth pursuing.Is there any lunch time action worth pursuing? If so, I would appreciate any suggestions / reccommendations. Motels, clubs, boites, gatinhas, etc.

Truant
03-09-06, 04:30
This boite has changed its pricing structure--and is still a good value, especially compared to Bomboa. You pay for drinks individually, R$15 for sucos, R$20-35 for alcohol. The entrada is R$60, but this will pay for a cabine, so it encourages you to get a girl. On a recent Monday night, many girls were asking for R$200 and accepting R$150 for the hour in the room. Live band -- very good music, mostly rock e roll. Food buffet was included (about 6pm it was put out) Sauna and steam room were R$15 extra--some customers were in robes in the bar. Girls were very friendly, simpatica, not agressive, alot of girl next door types. I spent R$249 for the night compared to usually close to R$400 at the now out of my price range Bomboa. And Coniff is in the same neighborhood--just on the southwest corner of the Sao Paulo cemetery in Pineiros.

Intransit
03-10-06, 16:43
Prostitutes in the Brazilian city of Salvador are starting up their own radio station.

The Association of Prostitutes of Bahia state has won government permission for the project, enabling FM station Radio Zona to start broadcasting in the second half of the year, project coordinator Sandro Correia said on Thursday.

"We are not going to apologize for prostitution but we are going to struggle for the dignity of the profession," Correia told Reuters.

The aim was not to attract women to the business. The station will feature programs about the trade but will also discuss issues such as human rights, social questions, and sexual abuse, Correia said.

"The idea is that we have diverse programs that look at health issues, AIDS prevention, and racism, for example," he said.

Working girls and media professionals such as Correia will staff the station and will give prostitutes training in an alternative job. Funding will come from association funds, advertising and sponsorship.

Prostitution is widespread in Brazil, especially in Bahia state and other parts of the impoverished northeast.

International rights organizations have criticized the country as a destination for sex tourism and child prostitution.

Prosal
03-10-06, 18:15
Just for the anecdote, Conniff (rua Horacio Lane 59, Pinheiros) is where the brothel's sequence of the VERY good brasilian movie ' O Invasor ' was filmed ....

http://www2.uol.com.br/oinvasor/fotos.htm

Pro

Member #4643
03-12-06, 05:33
i don't usually go with the independents, but I just met Sara, and she is wonderful. Sadly, I lost my camera last week in Salvador and did not get a photo, but she has a web site (www.saramineira.zip.net). Beautiful face, nice body, OUTSTANDING attitude. Best of all was her enthusiasm. Fantasticly talented between the sheets. The menu included everything although I do not care for anal myself. She does not speak English, but she is probably pretty good with non-Portuguese speakers nevertheless.

Ask her to dance for you! She gets a 10 in the "willing to please category". Her telephone is (11) 7668 1865.

Mangera
03-12-06, 05:41
How much was the damage? $

Pacific1
03-12-06, 21:12
Hi,

I have the choice of staying at one of these hotels:

Hilton Morumbi
Gran Melia WTC Sao Paulo Hotel
Gran Estanplaza

Does anyone know if these are girl friendly? Any idea if there are any good spots to meet GDP's close to them (or in them)? Which one has the best service? Also, I would prefer not to pay a "guest fee".

Any help would be much appreciated.

If any fellow mongers want to meet up for beers between Mar 21 - 24, send me an IM.

Thx

Genghis Khan
03-13-06, 10:48
Pacific1,

I can recommend Gran Estanplaza. Great service. Garota friendly and
good spacios suites with balconies at good prices.

It is located in the Berrini neighbourhood though - a bit away from the
main "monger" sites, but the Cafe Gauguin is next door.

GK


Hi,

I have the choice of staying at one of these hotels:

Hilton Morumbi
Gran Melia WTC Sao Paulo Hotel
Gran Estanplaza

Does anyone know if these are girl friendly? Any idea if there are any good spots to meet GDP's close to them (or in them)? Which one has the best service? Also, I would prefer not to pay a "guest fee".

Any help would be much appreciated.

If any fellow mongers want to meet up for beers between Mar 21 - 24, send me an IM.

Thx

Starfe
03-13-06, 14:55
Very girl friendly. Beautiful rooms. Killer bathrooms.

In the middle of nowhere

Starfe

Sui Generis
03-13-06, 22:18
How much was the damage? $

Sara Mineira is R$200.

She works freelance since December 2005. Before that she was working in these venues: Pyramide, 150 Club and Quatro Estações.

She lives not far from the Lido Motel.

Davis150
03-14-06, 02:08
While we're on this topic, my choices are Mecure Jardins which I believe is in Centro or Hotel Century Paulista which may be in Paraiso(?) . Any thoughts? Does anyone know how far away the Mecure Jardins is from Hotel Ca'D'Oro?

Thanks.

RexG
03-14-06, 05:38
While we're on this topic, my choices are Mecure Jardins which I believe is in Centro or Hotel Century Paulista which may be in Paraiso(?) . Any thoughts? Does anyone know how far away the Mecure Jardins is from Hotel Ca'D'Oro?

Thanks.

Mercure Jardins is in the Jardins area of SP, not Centro. I did walk one time from Mercure Jardins to Centro, and it is a long walk (perhaps 30 minutes) on Rua Augusta that starts with a climb of a San Francisco-sized hill. The walk from Mercure Jardins to Hotel Ca'D'Oro in Centro is also a good 30 minutes. There was an Accor hotel in Centro (Mercure Downtown), but it has changed hands. I can't remember the name of the new operator, but the information is somewhere in this thread.

Opinions differ, but I find Jardins to be much more livable than Centro, and the Mercure Jardins is a very acceptable place to stay.

Rex

Sui Generis
03-14-06, 21:01
I've just seen on another forum (GP Guia) that Sara Mineira offers a promotion until April:

R$150 for two hours....

Unfortunately you must be a member of that forum.

Lacamer
03-16-06, 16:35
Hi,

A week ago I went to Eu & Elas at about 4 pm. From my last visit a month before I had noticed a fantastic blonde but unfortunately it was when I was leaving the terma. So, I decide that at my next visit I will spend some time with her. Her name is Kelly, she is in fact a false blonde, she is 21, speaks good English. We started slowly by discussing in the relax room then we went to the bar for a drink and we negotiate for 40 min at 150 BLR. We take our time to finish our drinks and we went to the room. She doesn't push at all.

This girl has also a fantastic body, not to big boobs, a round ass but not as the other bresilian girls, just a little. She starts slowly by massages and then a fantastic bbbj, then 69 and I cant discribe the rest, it was so hot. She was very GFE all the time until the waiter knocked at the door.

This girl is really fantastic, she surely loves sex.

Total damages: 260 BLR

(see also my report in Rio)

Joe47
03-16-06, 17:16
I heard we can find special providers for top models ,of course the price is 1000US$ and more for one night in Sao Paulo . Any guy has any information on that ,I will be next month in Sao Paulo for business and I would like to use this type of service.

Spike 699
04-02-06, 19:52
Joe,

Go to Cafe Photo. Pick out what you want. You will not be dissappointed!

Kartango
04-02-06, 20:26
Hi Guys,

Is anybody in Sao Paulo today, or do you have an idea for a nice place for a person with a low budget?

Kartango

Madhatteruk
04-06-06, 11:22
Hi,

Has anyone ever met or had Carmi from Sao Paulo - I found her on the internet at http://www.asprimas.com.br/carmi.htm and she looks incredible as per pics attached. Just wondering if she is real and what her charges are. If anyone has any info please advise.

Thanks

Sui Generis
04-06-06, 19:41
Hi,

Has anyone ever met or had Carmi from Sao Paulo - I found her on the internet at http://www.asprimas.com.br/carmi.htm and she looks incredible as per pics attached. Just wondering if she is real and what her charges are. If anyone has any info please advise.

Thanks

Madhatteruk,

I'm sorry man, but the site asprimas, where you find Carmi, is on the black list of sites that must be absolutely avoided by each and every hobbyist.

Here's the list in question:

www.041vip.com.br
www.asbelissimas.com
www.asprimas.com.br
www.assapecas.com
www.belasproibidas.com.br
www.belasvip.com
www.belissima.clic3.net/
www.braziliansexy.com/frame-girls.html
http://cama.blig.ig.com.br/
www.Ciadoprazer.com
http://classificados.blig.ig.com.br
www.deliciosasonline.com
www.encontrosproibidos.com.br/
www.frenesy.com.br
www.gatinhasacompanhantes.com/
www.garotastv.com
www.Gatadelivery.com
www.gpsp.com.br
http://perfeicaosp.blig.ig.com.br/
www.prazerescasuais.com
www.pulacerca.com
www.soelas.com.br
www.sofazao.com.br
www.sogatinhas.com.br
www.soprazer.net
www.sperotico.com.br
www.todaboa.com
www.vitrinebook.net/

The reasons are diverse: bait & switch; photoshop; pictures of european models; etc......

If you dial Carmi's number you have also access to these other girls and, believe me, this is an indication that something strange is going on:

Joana:
http://www.sogatinhas.com.br/joana.htm

Raiza:
http://www.sogatinhas.com.br/raiza.htm

Cacau:
http://www.soelas.com.br/cacau.htm

Franciele:
http://www.soelas.com.br/franciele.htm

Astrid:
http://www.ciadoprazer.com/astrid.htm

Bea, Bani, Biba
http://www.ciadoprazer.com/beabanibiba.htm

I think it answers right away your question......

Sampa Guide
04-07-06, 11:40
If you dial Carmi's number you have also access to these other girls and, believe me, this is an indication that something strange is going on:

That's what we call "agencies", and in most cases these agencies will send you a girl that is different (always a lot uglier) than the one in the picture. My recommendation to avoid this is ALWAYS take a look (google may help) around to check if the phone number of the girl you liked is on another website, specially for a different girl.

Member #4643
04-12-06, 14:32
In the past, whenever the night got late and I was still alone, I would try calling various agencies. I probably did this 3 or 4 times my first two trips to Brazil. On each occasion I was ripped off. The girl was NEVER the same, the service was NEVER what I requested and the girls ALWAYS requested more money than the agreed upon figure. I recommend unequivocally that agencies be avoided, just as my colleague Sampa Guide suggested.

If you get desperate in Sao Paulo, go to Kilt. Its open 7 days a week and there are always one or two pretty girls at a minimum (and often many more) to relieve the pressure. I agree with the guys who say you can do better than Kilt, but not on a Saturday night when none of the internet girls are picking up the phone! Or on a Sunday, when Millenium is closed (although my favorite club, Bahamas, is open on Sundays. Beware- if you think Kilt can get pricey, the bills at Bahamas can reach into the stratosphere).

But, only use an agency if you feel the need to be punished.

Sui Generis
04-12-06, 19:00
Forest, How about sites like GPguia that give results of performances? A few people have used the websites with sucess but there are only a few legit ones out there. Plus I think calling the girl before you arrive and set something up would be better but there is always a chance something can go wrong.


Funkignitor,

I have used some of the sites listed on the GPGuia. Some of them are reliable, or even very reliable. The only thing that I don't like with escorts sites in Brasil (or I should rather say in São Paulo, because I haven't used them in other towns or locations in Brazil) is that you have to describe eveything you want in advance.

Bandy
04-14-06, 05:41
Mongers on ground----are any of the major clubs open on this Saturday and Sunday? I will be there for a week starting Saturday. Then to Rio and Buenos Aires.

Bandy

Tommy America
04-16-06, 02:18
I have heard from a local friend in Sao Paulo that a new club has opened in the same site/building where Donna Caffe once was. I believe the name is "Paris". Has anyone heard anything similar or, better still, visited this new club?

Bandy
04-16-06, 16:14
Saturday (11/15/06) was pretty much business as usual although some of the clinicas we tried (Cherry and Berini) were closed due to Easter holiday. I wanted to visit TERMAS EU & ELAS last August, but ran out of time. So this time , I wanted to start my trip here. We called them up before going and they said they were open.

Ceylon1 had an extensive report on this place (Report#785, 11/14/05). I have nothing to add on this, except to point out that they had an option of a suite which costs 59 R.

Being the holiday weekend, the number of girls were less (about 15). However, the number of clients were very few (may be 6). I immediately spotted a gorgeous girl . She had a very attractive face and a beautiful figure. Moara, a morena, who just turned 21 couple of days ago. Never married and has no children. She works only three days a week. Lots of actions inside the terma and finally we went to the room. The service was impeccable. BBBJ, DATY, no cola (I had no interst). She is new in the business. Very young pussy and very tight. DATY was wonderful. The girl was quite a trooper. we tried in every position and she let me finish all over her face and mouth. Total cost, 100 R for the hour.

After we came down, she still spent a number of hours with me. Bought some drinks (soft drinks 5 R, Beer 7 R). She gave her number and wanted to spend the night tomorrow (Sunday the terma is closed) at my hotel. In total, we stayed about 5 hours inside the terma. Nice relaxed atmosphere and I couldn't be happier. Although this is not quite like the termas in Rio, still it is not too far behind in actions. Lots of free contacts inside the terma and an open air sex acts by the clients almost all the time (I never saw that in Rio termas). Nelson, the manager at the entrance, was very helpful (some knowledge in portuguese will be very helpful at this place). If you like cheese, you will aprreciate the free buffet more. The soup was good. A Big recommendation all the way!

A nice welcome back reception at SP.

Bandy

PS: Total expense:

Entrance 79 R (includes 2 drinks and free buffet)
Garota 100R
Room and bunch of drinks 77 R

A grand total of 256 R ( Today we exchanged money 2.14 R per USD)

Bandy
04-17-06, 16:21
It is Sunday, pouring outside and I wanted to chill out. So it is the escort time! I called Ana and as it turned out, she was available. I made an appointment for 10 PM.

Ana Luiza advertises in Contatos and Sex Dream.

http://www.contatos.com.br/nome.php?nome=analuiza

Bimbo Boy had a report on her in the Photo Gallery section (Report #12, 1/8/06). I liked what I read and Ana did not disappoint me. Extremely tall, extreme GFE, extremely sexy, and-------------- extremely talkative. That was the only negative for me. Otherwise, she is a dream model!

About two hours and two shots later, said good-bye to her. Priced really good, at least by SP standard. 150 R total damage!

Bandy

Bandy
04-17-06, 17:01
Those who are fan of staying in Mercure Jardins (including yours truly) now have a good alternative.

TRYP PAULISTA

http://www.solmelia.com/solNew/hoteles/jsp/C_Hotel_Description.jsp?codigoHotel=5857

This hotel is just two blocks from Av. Paulista on Haddok Lobo on the other side of the hotel Mercure Jardins.

There are many positives:

Rates for the double room are USD 48 in the weekend and USD 62 in weekdays (a savings of more than 30 USD per night compared to Mercure hotel). Breakfast always included as opposed to only for the weekend at Mercure Jardins.

You must book through the internet to get the rates.

We took a tour of the hotel yesterday. This is a newer hotel. A better area. Only two blocks to Av. Paulista. All amneties including exercise room , sauna etc. are available. Swiming pool is very small.

The ONLY NEGATIVE: Rooms are smaller (about 20%) than the Mercure hotel. But they are stlll very good and the bathroom even has a bidet (a plus for this hotel). The in-room safe,the refrigerator, furnitures are exactly same as available in Mercure Jardins. In fact, at times, I felt I am in my room at Mercure Jardins.

I talked to the front desk girl. When you book a double room, you don't pay any extra for garotas. Garotas must register at the front desk.

Next time I am definitely staying here!

Bandy

RexG
04-18-06, 03:14
Great reports Bandy. When Bimbo Boy wrote about Ana Luiza several months ago, I immediately PMed him for her phone number. She is definitely on my list for my mid-May visit. The new hotel sounds very good as well, a lot cheaper than Mercure Jardins. I'll be visiting SP and Rio next month. I have yet to decide on how long I'll spend at each place. I look forward to your reports to help me decide.

Genghis Khan
04-18-06, 12:17
I landed at Guarulhos airport on a Saturday at around 18:00. The airport was virtually empty and the lines for the passport control was unusually short. The soccer match Barcelona vs. Real Madrid was shown on television and it seemed most Brazilians were busy watching the game. That was fine with me because I was in a bit of a hurry. I needed to go to the duty free shop on the airport and pick up a bottle of champagne, a bottle of whisky and a gift for my date this evening. She was supposed to show up around 21:30. Before that I needed to take a taxi to my hotel, unpack and shower. At around 21:00 the madame was arriving at my hotel to pick up the airfare for the girl I was having flown in from Rio de Janeiro on Monday, but before that Vatel69 was going to show up at my hotel and help me arrange exchange of the US dollars I had brought to reais. At 22:00 Miss F and I had a dinner reservation at the Japanese restaurant Shundi e Tomodachi. Everything was planned to minute details but the schedule was very tight - even a small delay could make everything fall apart.

Vatel69 proved to be extremely useful on this trip. He set up all the dates I had planned before I had even arrived in Sao Paulo in addition to making all the restaurant reservations I wanted. He took care of the negotiations with the girls and madams and helped me translate or even make complaint when I needed to. He was the best tour guide I could ever hope for and probably worth more than I paid him. So I had no problems as a return favour to let him meet the girls I had dates with or share their phone numbers with him.

If you have read my previous reports on this forum you might remember that I set up a date with a high end madame to send me a girl I called Miss F one night during my trip in October last year. She proved to be a perfect match for me. She has got the sweetest and most down to earth personality you can imagine but with the body wet dreams are made of. Some of the comments from friends I have shown her pictures to have been that she seems a little muscular. I wouldn't actually say that she looks like a muscle girl, but she is fit and has got a curvy figure - just the way I like it. That makes a perfect combination with her attitude which is very far from the aggressive prospect such a body could give the impression of. She loves sex and is very eager to please.

Miss F was my date for tonight and I had been dreaming wet dreams about her for a week before my arrival to Sao Paulo. As you might remember from the report, I was a little nervous or afraid about going out with a famous girl. That made me have some drinks before she showed up. This time was very different. I knew her now and the facts that she seemed to have a good time on our last date and that Vatel69 had gotten the impression that she was happy to see me again, only added to my excitement of seeing her again.

After I had bought whiskey for myself and champagne and chocolate for Miss F, I hurried through passport control and found the taxi driver Marglo had set up for me waiting. He took me to my hotel where Vatel69 was waiting for me in the lobby.

After unpacking, showering and shaving we got the money exchange settled. Vatel69 and I had a drink while we waited for the madame to show up. This madame was a different madame than the one I used in October to set up the deal with Miss F. I will call this one Madame L while I will call the madame from October Madame G. Madame L had set me up with a cover girl from the magazine Sexy Premium. I will call this girl Miss D. Miss D was going to be the most expensive girl during this trip. In fact she was the most expensive girl I had ever had. I have shown her photos to a few members on this board and most of them have dropped their jaws to the floor when seeing her pictures. I was really excited about that date but that was not until Monday. Today was Saturday.

After a while the phone rang. Vatel69 and I went down to the reception to hand over the airfare for Miss D to Madame L. While talking to Madame L outside the hotel time started to get close to Miss F was supposed to show up so I went back up to my room and waited. The last time Miss F came to my hotel, she showed up more than an hour late. This time she appeared early. The phone rang in my hotel room and the receptionist informed me that Miss F had arrived. I went down to the reception where Miss F was waiting for me. I was equally stunned by her physical beauty this time as the last time. I approached her and her incredible smile welcomed me followed by a kiss on each cheek. Vatel69 had already told her we were going to have dinner at a Japanese restaurant. He was still out on the street talking to Madame L and I knew he wanted to meet Miss F, so I asked her if she wouldn't mind waiting for him before we headed off to the restaurant. Just as I spoke those words Vatel69 showed up. By the look on his face it seemed that he was a little surprised by how good Miss F looked in person. He had seen her in pictures and I know he too liked her personality from having spoken to her several times on the phone while setting up this date.

After Vatel69 had left us, my taxi driver took Miss F and me to the Japanese restaurant Shundi e Tomodachi. I had been a bit stressed up until now because of the tight schedule. The fact that everything worked out, the drink I had at the hotel and Miss F's calm and friendly attitude now had me totally relaxed. She took my hand in the backseat of the car and asked me how I had been since our last date. She asked me if I had brought my dictionary. I suddenly realized that I had forgotten the dictionary this time. She assured me that since we didn't use the dictionary that much the last time, we would probably be fine without it this time.

When we arrived at the restaurant we were shown a table in what has to be described as the best looking part of the restaurant with glass walls where water was running down the walls. The meal was very good and we managed to communicate very well without the dictionary. What pleased me very much was that she remembered so much from our last date in October - more than I did. Which is kind of strange as I consider that date as one of my best ever and that fact made me remember what I thought was every detail. I turned out I didn't remember everything. She remembered things we had talked about which I didn't remember myself.

After the meal my taxi driver took us back to the hotel. This might sound a bit strange but one of the things Miss F does so very well is to make me relax when there is nothing natural to say to each other. The sometimes awkward silence that can happen when communication or language problems are an obstacle. A typical situation is when sitting in the backseat of a taxi with a driver in the front seat understanding every word said in Portuguese. Miss F just has this special way about her that makes me relax. Everything about her smile and personality just radiates friendliness. At this point of the date there was nothing indicating that we were about to have sex when we got back to the hotel. It was as if she picked up on my sometimes a little reserved nature and made me feel as if she was a very good friend.

When we got back to the hotel room it was as if she switched personality totally into a sexual creature. After having showered she seduced me by rubbing her body against mine and running my hands all over her body. In no time at all she had gotten me so aroused that I just tore off her clothes while she took care of mine. The only minor detail I didn't like about our last date was that she didn't allow me to go down on her. This time it was prearranged. There was an agreement that this was going to be allowed if I wanted to - and boy did I want to! She was obviously turned on too because she was dripping wet already at the point when she was running my hands over her body. When I started going down on her it was as if she ran over with bodily fluids. After a long while going down on her, I wanted her to return the favour and she did so expertly without condom. While we had sex she kept her high heels on. I was more tired from the flight than I imagined and with her immense physique, it was hard for me to keep up with her in bed. After a couple of hours I was totally exhausted and I hadn't managed to pop yet. She retired to the bathroom for a while before returning and asked me what I would like her to do to make me pop. I told her that I usually come easier from a BJ than anything else but that she didn't have to take the load in her mouth if she didn't want to. She just ignored my comment and started giving me head again. She kept going until I knew that this was not my day and pulled away. She seemed a little sad that I didn't reach an orgasm but I got her good spirit back when I told her that the jetlag, little sleep and the alcohol might be to blame and that it certainly was not her fault.

I gave her the box of chocolates I bought at the airport and told her that this was the first time I had ever bought a present for any of the girls I had met in Brazil. The reason why I had bought it for her was that she was special to me. I also told her that I might want to set up another date with her later on during this trip and she was all for the idea. I told her that I would have Vatel69 call her when I knew how to fit our second date into my schedule.

I paid her (half price compared to the last time we met) and sent her on her way into the night. I manged to think that this is a really special girl before I dozed off.......

GK

Tricksta
04-18-06, 17:25
GK,

Your excellent and titillating reports are one of the things that make this forum great. In fact, I look forward to your reporting almost as much as I look forward to my next annual pilgrimage to SP and Rio in November. Please keep up the excellent reporting.

Bandy
04-18-06, 18:23
Monday night we planned to visit the centro clubs. During our last trip, we happened to discover a gem of a taxi driver, Nilton. Yesterday we tried to call his number, but could not reach him. When we got back to the hotel after dinner, guess who we met again in front of our hotel----Mr. Nilton Santos. With a big grin on his face , he put us through some bear hugs. We found out Nilton changed his cell phone. He gave us his new card.

This is a guy, who has all the mongering information in his back pocket. When we expressed desire to visit the centro clubs, he just convinced us to go to Millenium. He said that the club, is now as good as Bahamas in terms of garota qualities and we should definitely pay a visit there first.

Nilton, our man, was right on the spot. There were lots of attractive girls. They even had a live band, which I did not see last August. The place was really buzzing, considering it was a Monday night.

There were lots of girls to choose from and I was taking my time nursing my drinks. However, within fifteen minutes, I spotted a girl in a corner. She smiled and I was toast. A gorgous beauty. I tried to avoid her and still wanted to take some time. I stood way further from the girl to avoid any contact. But this was not meant to be. She finally came to me. What a beauty! Tall, slim, not an ounce of fat. All that great italian look that I really dig among Brazillians. While talking to her, all of a sudden there was a power failure. I think the band short circuited something. In a pitched black silence, we found ourselves in each other arms, liplocked! Power came back within 30 sec., but it seemed like eternity.

Her name is Fabiana. A student, who is doing this part time (3 days a week). Soon we went upstaires and the things only got better and better. Except cola (not interested), everything was on the menu. I will definitely remember this experience. Negotiated price was 150 R for the hour.

She is willing to spend the whole night at my hotel on Wednesday, her off day. We excanged numbers. I rarely repeat, let's see what the future holds!

Came down to the boliche. We took some drinks and food and she spent rest of the time with me until I left around 4 AM (Millenium was also kind of closing).

Expenses:

Entrance 90 R (includes six beers or three whiskeys)
Room 70 R
Garota 150 R

Taxi from Mercure Jardins 50 R (round trip with tips)


Bandy

Bandy
04-18-06, 18:45
Great reports Bandy. When Bimbo Boy wrote about Ana Luiza several months ago, I immediately PMed him for her phone number. She is definitely on my list for my mid-May visit. The new hotel sounds very good as well, a lot cheaper than Mercure Jardins. I'll be visiting SP and Rio next month. I have yet to decide on how long I'll spend at each place. I look forward to your reports to help me decide.
Rex,

You will definitely like this hotel. Yesterday, we took a walk from Mercure Jardins to all the way to Edifico Italia, in centro ( about 40 min walk). We visited many hotels on the way. Hotel Branson, Comfort inn (former Mercure downtown) etc. Checked out the rooms. They can not hold candles to TRYP PAULISTA.

By the way, for some non-mongering activity, go all the way up to the top floor (41st floor---first elevator to 37th floor and the next one to the 41st floor) of Edifico Italia. There is a restaurnet at the top. Highly rated I was told. You can enjoy a spectacular view of the city of Sao Paulo from the open air observation point. We spent about half an hour on top to appreciate the beauty of the city.

My trip is already fixed: One week in SP, One week in Rio and 10 days in Buneos Aires.

Bandy

RexG
04-19-06, 02:29
This thread has been pretty quiet lately, and, by contrast, the Rio thread has been flooded with content-free posts. It's great to see some of the old pros back in action here. Just in time for my Brazil visit next month. Thanks Bandy. Thanks GK. Great reports.

Rex

Bandy
04-19-06, 17:49
IMHO, if you want to visit at least one high end club in SP, this should be your first stop. May be the only stop! Don't waste money in Cafe Photo, way more expensive and quality (unless older garotas are your cup of tea) is definitely not as good as Bahamas. This is strictly my observations after visiting both clubs. I never had any interest to visit W, so I am not in a position to compare Bahamas to W. The set up of these two clubs is way different to compare. Cafe Photo may be compared to W , although, I am not too sure.

To-night, Nilton was right on time and we left for Bahamas ariound 11 PM. You want to talk about garota quality! Many, many to choose from. A lots of them are from Rio Grande de Sul. White skin, blond girls. This time I met many new girls, who just started working at this place. I really like the energy at Bahamas. I visited many times and each time tops the other. Also, their live shows are really fantastic!

So many to chose from, I was really having a hard time. Finally, I selected a real cutie, Andressa, 22 yr old , with a face to die for. In the room, I almost forgot to fuck her. Mostly, I was looking at her face, especially during BBBJ.

If you have no language skill, they might take you to cleaners. You must negotiate. I think, almost everybody will eventually take 300 R for one hour of on-site romp. However, my price is always 200 R and I never had a problem to get it.

We left the place at closing time, little after 4 AM.

Bahamas --- where your dreams come true. (Mangement should pay me for promoting this place).

Expense:

Entrance 121 R (No drink included)
Room 99 R
Beer 18 R
Soft drinks 8 R
Garota 200 R (This figure is totally flluid and needs your negotiating skill)

Taxi 60 R ( round trip including tip from Mercure Jardins)

Bandy

Bandy
04-19-06, 18:17
On our way to Bahamas (see report below), Nilton was talking highly about another boliche "American Show", not too far from Bahamas. We told him to stop by there first, just to take a look.

Guy at the door, gave us two minutes to look inside. Nothing great, but not too bad either. Not too big, a small dance stage. About 30 -40 garotas, around midnight. Garota quality was more medium to lower end and looked like more local patrons rather than tourist visit this place. May be two or three would have been piqued my interest, had I decided to stay there.

Pricing is affordable: Entrance 70 R (includes drinks, may be 3 or 4), 75 for the room, Free buffet and garotas you have to negotiate. Looking at them, I don't think, you will have any problem to have them under 150 R.

My suggestion, go to Millenium instead of this. Millenium is really high end compared to this place.

Our two minutes were up and we were on our way to Bahamas.

While driving, a car with two real cute girls (one was the driver), was driving side by side to our car. Nilton immediately spotted them as P4P items. He told us that during the holiday period many college girls drive by the major boites and try to pick up tourists. I really like the passenger girl. Nilton honked, they slowed down and rolled down the window to talk. The girl was a real cutie. We were kind of in a dilema. Our primary target was Bahamas and my friend really was not willing to try something else. If I were alone, I would have definetly explored the possibility. Well, Bahamas won!

Bandy

Bubba Boy
04-19-06, 20:07
Does any know of a club(s) that has predominantly "morenas" in Sao Paulo as opposed to most clubs that have more "white" looking GDP's?

Genghis Khan
04-19-06, 21:45
I woke up to a magnificent sunshine outside at around 11. I showered, got dressed and waited for my taxi driver to pick me up at around 12. I originally had plans to go to the restaurant Santi to have lunch, but this seemed like the perfect time to go to a local place called Juarez in Moema.

Juarez is more a cultural experience than a great culinary experience. The place has got real Brazilian character. Vatel69 and Nickster53 took me there one afternoon during my stay in October and I really wanted to go back and repeat the experience. Back in October Vatel69 called some of his many girlfriends to come over to Juarez and join us for a drink and some light food. Vatel69 had promised me to do so this afternoon too. Juarez really is a bar and not a restaurant and they adopt the whisky club concept which is normal in Sao Paulo. http://www.bardojuarez.com.br

I had a dinner reservation at the restaurant La Tambouille at 19:00 and then I had set up an appointment with Miss R arranged through Madame G at around 23:00 tonight. The deals with all the girls set up through the madams were agreed to be all nighters including DFK, BBBJ and DATY. The girl I had set up a date with tonight was a Paulista well known for her samba shows and TV performances.

At around 12:30 the taxi driver took me to Vatel69s apartment and waited for us while I went up to his place to take a look at photos of some girls he thought I might be interested in seeing. A few minutes later and we were on our way to Juarez. Vatel69 and I had agreed to have a light lunch and a few drinks before he would call for the girls to show up. I had no idea what so ever what girls he was going to call and if they would be willing to show up, so this was kind of a gamble. It would however no matter how it turned out kill the time before dinner and my date with Miss R.

After we had finished our food and I had finished my bottle of wine a morena showed up. This was apparently and old girlfriend of Vatel69. She was not of interest to me anyway but it was clear that she was hands off for me. She didn't speak any English so I had trouble getting involved in the conversation. After a while another morena showed up and this too was apparently someone for Vatel69 and she didn't speak English either. I am not sure why but when two or more people speak Portuguese among themselves I have a hard time understanding the conversation, but when someone tries to speak Portuguese to me I usually manage to a limited degree.

Time passed and the girls Vatel69 had in mind for me didn't show up. He did several attempts to call them but they were not willing to show up unless I could give a guarantee that I would take her back to the hotel and pay for her time. In the end as a result of a the total frustration of the situation of not being able to communicate with the others present at the table and the minutes turning into several hours, I told Vatel69 that if one of the girls (a blonde called Dani) would show up, I would guarantee to take her back to the hotel for an agreed fee. By now we had become hungry again and had some more food. We had also been drinking quite a bit and I was becoming a little drunk. I had decided to drop my dinner reservation at La Tambouille because I was not that hungry and the time left until my reservation made me unable to go back to the hotel and change before going to the restaurant. We waited more than 2 hours for Dani and she didn't show up. I was now quite drunk and told Vatel69 that this had been a complete waste of my time and that I needed to get a clear head and some rest before my date with Miss R. Vatel69 agreed and we took my taxi back to my hotel, dropping Vate69 off at his apartment on the way.

The time difference between my country and Sao Paulo is 5 hours. I had not slept a full night’s sleep last night. In addition to that my flight from my country departed at 5:30 in the morning the night before that. I decided not to sleep the night of my flight in order to be sure to get up for my flight. I thought I would be better off sleeping during the 13 hour flight to Sao Paulo. In the end I didn't manage to sleep much during the flight.

When I got back to the hotel I was quite drunk and retired to my room for some rest. The time was around 20:30 and I had about two and a half hours until Miss R was supposed to show up.

I woke up by the door to my hotel room opening and a bell boy shouting out at me to wake up. I had a visitor in the reception and they had tried to call my room for more than two hours. I looked at the time and it showed 23:15. SHIT!!!!! This was not good. The bell boy told me that a woman was waiting for me downstairs. My head was spinning and I was still not really awake. The phone rang and I picked up. It was Vatel69. He demanded to know where the hell I had been. He and the hotel staff had been trying to call my phone for two hours. Vatel69 had been communicating with Madame G and Madame G had been communicating with Miss R. Vatel69 assured them that I was in my hotel room but that I was probably sleeping. In the end Vatel69 had told the hotel staff that he wanted them to open the door to my room and check if I was okay because he was a bit worried. Apparently Miss R had shown up almost two hours early and was waiting for me in the reception where she had been for almost two hours.

I went down to the reception with my head still spinning and not at all prepared for a long night of sex. What the hell had I been thinking? I should have been using this day to relax and catch up on some sleep and not gone out drinking. Still dizzy I entered the lobby and Miss R was nowhere to be seen. I asked the reception if my visitor had left and the answer was that she had just been here and gone outside. I went outside to look for her but Miss R was nowhere to be seen. I went back inside and looked around once more before going outside again. This time I took a walk out to the street in front of the hotel and looked in both directions but Miss R was nowhere to be seen. I gave up and went back to the hotel. On the way back a black Audio pulled up next to me and slided down the window. My mind was still not clear, so I didn't recognize Miss R. She asked me if I was Mr. GK and I confirmed. She told me that she had been forced to go outside and wait in her car because several people at the hotel had recognized her and she didn't like that. She told me to go up to my room and she would follow me after she had parked her car.

I went back up to my room and within a few minutes there was a knock on my door. I showed Miss R inside and she told me that she really didn't want anybody to see that she was here. I offered her my apologies for not waking up and told her that I had not been expecting her until 23:00. She said it was no problem and asked me if I had any condoms because she hadn't brought any of her own. I have brought a stack of condoms every time I have been to Sao Paulo in the past but only once have I ever needed them. This time I had decided not to bring any because the girls always bring their own. Here I was without any with a girl who was actually stunning to behold. She told me not worry, simply call the reception and ask them if they could get me some condoms. I called and the receptionist informed me that they didn't have any condoms at the hotel and that he was the only one on watch at the moment so he could not go out to get some for me. I suddenly remembered the gas station a block away from the hotel and thought they might have condoms there. I told Miss R that I would go there and get some and she replied that it was no problem she would take a shower while I was gone. Miss R told me that she didn't want to open if I knocked on the door when I got back. She was scared that somebody knocking could be somebody from the reception and she didn't want to be recognized. She left me no choice but to bring the key to my room with me when I left.

When I got to the gas station they had only one pack of condoms left. It contained four condoms. I was sure that would be sufficient considering the state of mind I was in at the moment and bought it and hurried back to the hotel. When I got back to the hotel room Miss R was a bit upset because when I took the key to my room it cut electricity to the room and all hot water. She had been showering in complete darkness with only freezing water. I offered my apologies again and told her that I needed a shower too.

When I got out of the shower she turned off the lights before removing her towel. Because of this I really never got a clear look at her naked body. I was not going to argue with her though. She had gone through so much to fulfil her part of the deal now so in order to get her in a good mood before sex I didn't object to any of her wishes.

Sex with Miss R was quite good with an excellent BBBJ and she loved receiving DATY. That is about all I remember from that experience except that she kept trying to stick a finger up my ass. I don't care for that and pulled her away, but she kept trying. In the end I couldn't pop today either. This was not a surprise considering that I was still so tired and my head had still not come out of sleeping mode.

Miss R shaked my dick and said "not working". I told her what had happened and she answered that she understood. Then she asked me if I came to Brazil often and if she was the first girl from Madame G. I told her that I had been to Brazil a few times and that she was the second girl I had arranged from Miss G but that I probably had been with more than 50 different Brazilian women during the last two years. Miss R got really upset about that and kept muttering repeatedly about the 50 women before going into the shower. When she returned she told me that her parents were waiting for her in her apartment and that she couldn't stay the night. So she left me.

The next day I complained to Vatel69 that Miss R had not stayed the entire night as agreed and he called Madame G. The answer Miss R had given to Madame G was that I had told her I had been with 5 women earlier that day and that I was not being able to perform and had agreed for her to go.

GK

Genghis Khan
04-19-06, 21:45
Does any know of a club(s) that has predominantly "morenas" in Sao Paulo as opposed to most clubs that have more "white" looking GDP's?

Try Bahamas.

Bandy
04-20-06, 18:39
Nilton showed up right on time at 11:30 PM. We were planning to go to Millenum for a repeat visit. However, he told us of a club, Excaliver, which was nearby. He said that he heard nice things about this club and since it is close by to our hotel, it does not hurt to take a look. If we didn't like it, we will continue to Millenium.

To be frank, I was quite apprehensive at first. I thought, it was a strip club and will hit us for lots of money for drinks and lap dances. However, I also had tremendous faith on Nilton's judgement and decided to take a look.

It was only a 10 min ride form our hotel. Nilton pulled over and asked the guys that we are only interested in looking. They had no objection and soon we entered the place.

I was pleasantly surprised. At first sight, I thought the place has lots of promise. The guys took us to the owner of the club, Avitium, who was entertaining other clients. An older gentlemen, who retired from the police force recently, bought this place from the owners of Bomboa about a year ago. He welcomed us with open arms and won't let us leave (in a very nice way). I started feeling comfortable and got the sense that it is not a place where they try to separate you from your money in every which way they can (like Romanza).
We decided to try it out and went back out and paid Nilton and told him to come back next night.

This is not a big club, but still lays out pretty well. Has a stage where live shows go on. About 50 + garotas. About half of them were average, nothing to write home about, but the other half is really doable. And of course, there were a few standouts. Most of the girls are very young, late teens to early twenties.

The owner insisted that the first drink will be on the house. Who are we to argue? Soon we started to blend in. Girls are coming around, some heavy contacts, etc etc.

Main customers of this club are local guys. We probably were the only tourist at this place last night.

The feature dancer was on the stage. Abraham made us sit in front of the stage. Once the dance was over, the dancer was all over us giving lap dance. I must say they treated us well.

It did not take me long to find my girl. Our eyes met and I knew instantly that I was in trouble. A Katherina Witt look alike, 20 yr. old from Curitiba. I had no doubt that I will go home with her to-night. An absolute gorgeous girl in every sense of the word.

She was extremely affectionate, great DFK inside the club and a pair of natural tits to die for. Avitium came to me and congratulated me on my taste. He pointed out her legs ( a beautiful long pair with a feel of baby skin). However, I pointed him to her eyes, which did me in. Suzy, agreed to do the TLN, my only requirement for to-night. This trip, I was sleeping alone so far. I am a TLN fan and to-night I have exactly what I needed.

As the night progressed, many cute girls started to come in. So my recommendation will be to go after 1 AM for a better selection.

The clubs have rooms in the back for on site romp. My friend did the feature dancer on site. After he finished, we left the club with Suzy around 2:45 AM.

Details about the club

EXCALIBVR
Rua Rui Barbosa, 287
Bela Vista- Sao Paulo

(11) 3171-3993

When you enter, they give you a card where they write your name. Hold on to this. Evereytime you order drinks, they put a check mark on it and give the card back to you. Look carefully for any discrepancy.

Price info

Entrance 50 R (No drink included)
On site room 50 R ( My friend said that the facility is nice)
To take garota out 50 R
Drinks: Soft drinks 6 R, Beers 14 R and ask for the price for other drinks.
On site garota fee: Negotiate, between 150 R to 200 R for an hour of on site romp.

I paid 300 R for TLN, ( she came at 3 AM and left at 1 PM). I was not in a mood for hard negotiations, I wanted her for to-night and so be it. She repeatedly pointed out that she charged 200 R for 1 hour on-site ( not with me, I told her). Anyway, she got kind of attached to me also and everything fell into pieces. At my hotel, things were spectacular. We made love for more than two hours. What a body! What an experience!

In a way, I lucked out. She is here only for a month. She is having a terrible time in SP. She became very home sick. So she is going back to Curitiba on Friday morning. She waited long enough, to attend me!

BIG NEGATIVE ABOUT THIS PLACE

The girls constantly push for drinks. And drink prices may sky-rocket. Even my darling Suzy ordered mixed drinks which cost 40 R. Avitium told me earlier that the girls get 20% from the drink price. So watch out! Make sure what they are ordering and how much it cost, before you approve.

Otherwise, I recommend this place big time.

Bandy

Bandy
04-21-06, 00:54
Prior to my visit at SP, I picked out couple of escorts to fill up my days. One of them was Ana Julia.

http://www.ellass.com.br/modelo.asp?pid=941

I called Ana around 5 PM today for a date at 6 PM. She sounded really nice on the phone and I had no problem to finalize the things. She asked for 300 R, but soon settled for 200 R for 90 min, plus taxi. I told Wagner at the front desk that to send her up when she comes in.

Right around 6 PM, I heard a knock on my door. I opened the door and she jumped on me and started kissing me. I could not believe what I was seeing. She is simply a goddess! And when she disrobed, I almost came looking at her naked body. Oh those absolutely perfect natural breasts with pink nipples! Her skin is so white that the flash in my camera was making the pictures overexposed.

She is simply full of energy. I had one of the best interactions with an escort in my life. Ana, 21 yr. old, is a model and studying for a degree in Journalism. She is very easy going and you will have a time of your life.

CBJ, Daty, (no cola), DFK, GFE all were on the menu. She loved the pocket rocket. Time just flew by in an instant. Everybody says, and rightfully so, not to dabble on the escorts. Because odds are not in your favor to have positive experience, especially due to the bait and switch symptoms. But, so far, I am quite lucky in this front. And I get a real rush of a blind date when that knocks eventually comes. These are the escorts that I live for. Escorts like Ana can really light up your day.

I had a lot of talk about her personal life. I was joking with her all the time and she is not the one to hold back. she has a great sense of humor. I did all my appointment in Portuguese. When she came in, I had a Lionel Richie CD in my stereo. I was surprised that she knew few of the words. So, probably she will be able to converse in broken English with some you who are language challenged.

When I went down to the front desk little bit later, Wagner could not stop talking about her beauty.

She is getting married in December. Try her before she is gone.

Bandy

Bandy
04-21-06, 20:56
I simply dislike privados. Mostly, because of the bathroom and overall facility issues. If the privado offers high standard, they usually costs more and you are better off getting an escort in your hotel room. So these days, I rarely visit a privado.

Couple of days ago, at the end of our walk of about hour and a half, we found ourselves on Al. Jaú, not too far from our hotel. My friend collected some addresses from the guide compiled by Pluto 2 and he wanted to check out the following one.

FASCINAÇAO
Al. Jaú,480 ~ Jardins (about 10 min walk from Mercure Jardins hotel)
TEL:3284-7981
80 R 30 min, 100R 1hr FS

Before you walk up to the steps, there is a buzzer on your right. Buzz it, walk up and somebody will open the door for you.

We were right inside the sitting room once the door was opened. The girl, Luana, who opened the door was quite cute. Right then , I got a glimpse of a room. The room looked quite nice, considering my apprehension about these kind of places.

There were 8 girls available. I was dead tired from the walking and I never thought that I will try to do anything at this moment. However, when the line up started and the first girl walked in, I wanted to do her right away. She was Gaby, a 20 yr. old, white skin, blond (colored) with a very nice face and figure. I went through the line up just for the motion. My mind had already been made up. Only one other girl, Bruna (a negra) was kind of interesting to me. Rest of the girls were average, certainly doable if you are in a mood for a release.

Room was small, but nicely decorated. A small stand-in shower, but in good working condition with a nice hot water supply. They give you a sealed towel, soap. I enjoyed a long shower after the walk, while watching Gaby undress. Gaby also took a shower and we were in business pretty soon.

Gaby, what I call a "three-in-one" girl. Tongue-pierced, belly-button-pierced and a nice ring through her clit. She has a son and her breasts were kind of saggy. And she had one other negative for me--- her legs were not well shaved and those small stubbles bothered me a bit. Otherwise, she was great all around.

She gave a BBBJ more than 20 min including AR, and the girl was really great at it. All other options were on the table, except cola. At the end of the hour, I was a fully satisfied customer. Gaby told me that she just came in 20 min. ago and I was her first customer of the day. I felt like a real winner. I don't have to think about how many she went through before me!

Nice place for an afternoon romp, if you are in a mood.


Recommendations of the day:

Gaby (Loira)
Luana (Morena- my friend said she was great)
Bruna (Negra - another customer's recommedation who just did her)

Bandy

Bandy
04-22-06, 21:25
TAM is running a special fare between SP and Rio. 79 R each way + tax. Total comes about 197 R round trip. However, as with any cheap fare, flights for this price is very limited. Sample flights for this price

CGH (10:55 AM) - GIG, (11:55 AM)


GIG (7:20 AM) - GRU (8:20 AM)
GIG (05:30 AM) - CGH (06:30 AM)


Normal round trip price with tax is well over 400 R (via GOL)

Bandy

RexG
04-22-06, 23:37
Bandy, since you are staying in Mercure Jardins, you might wander down to Oscar Freire. Taking Augusta away from Centro, you'll come to Oscar Freire (a cross street) in 5 or 6 blocks. Turning left on Oscar Freire, you'll pass some decent cafe's and restaurants. One in particular that I remember was a partially open air place that was staffed by college age waiters and waitresses. I don't recall the name (seems like it had "Gras" in the name). Walking further you'll come to All Black, a decent pub. Also, you can turn right on Oscar Freire (from Augusta), and there are restaurants in that direction as well. Nothing spectacular or must see on Oscar Freire, but the street has a nice ambiance. A tiny bit upscale. I walked from there to Mercure Jardins on a couple of nights. Probably stupid but I survived.

Aunsa
04-23-06, 00:14
Hello everyone!

I will be going to Sao Paulo for a few days next week for business, have booked into the Radisson Hotel Sao Paulo Faria Lima. Please advise if it is girl friendly.

Also, if anyone has any direct contact numbers for any girls that have offered a good service, drop me a line directly.

Many thanks in advance!

Java Man
04-23-06, 04:46
i've searched high and low, here and elsewhere, it's not listed on the acronyms nor abbreviations list. and i keep seeing it. WTF is "COLA?"
thanks

Bubba Boy
04-23-06, 04:56
Cola=anal sex

Sampa Guide
04-23-06, 06:53
Hello everyone!

I will be going to Sao Paulo for a few days next week for business, have booked into the Radisson Hotel Sao Paulo Faria Lima. Please advise if it is girl friendly.

Also, if anyone has any direct contact numbers for any girls that have offered a good service, drop me a line directly.

Many thanks in advance!They charge a fee to take a girl upstairs, according to my last client that stayed at this hotel. I remember the fee was around R$50.

Bandy
04-23-06, 22:11
i've searched high and low, here and elsewhere, it's not listed on the acronyms nor abbreviations list. and i keep seeing it. WTF is "COLA?"
thanks
There are lots of variations of the word. Generally, here in ISG, we refer it as COLA. However, I was surprised that some of the garotas did not get the drift at first. So use, CULO or COLITA also. If everything fails, use "BUNDA", a full proof term for these garotas!

Bandy

Pelicano
04-23-06, 23:14
Cola in Brazil means simply "GLUE" Thus the blank stares when you ask for cola, or at best, she might think you want to sniff some glue.

Portuguese to Spanish and Spanish to Portuguese don't always translate literaly and sometimes the literal translation actualy will mean something completely different and at times even offensive.

Pelicano

Bandy
04-24-06, 01:57
Bandy, since you are staying in Mercure Jardins, you might wander down to Oscar Freire. Taking Augusta away from Centro, you'll come to Oscar Freire (a cross street) in 5 or 6 blocks. Turning left on Oscar Freire, you'll pass some decent cafe's and restaurants. One in particular that I remember was a partially open air place that was staffed by college age waiters and waitresses. I don't recall the name (seems like it had "Gras" in the name). Walking further you'll come to All Black, a decent pub. Also, you can turn right on Oscar Freire (from Augusta), and there are restaurants in that direction as well. Nothing spectacular or must see on Oscar Freire, but the street has a nice ambiance. A tiny bit upscale. I walked from there to Mercure Jardins on a couple of nights. Probably stupid but I survived.
Rex,

I am already in RIO. God, how times fly when you are having a good time. The only regret of this trip is that I did not have enough time to do a Japanese beauty. Her kimono clad figure is still haunting me!

I still have to do last two days of report. I discovered a high end club on my last day. When you will be there, you may want to try it out.

Bandy

Java Man
04-24-06, 05:02
WTF...i thought it was an acronym for something. (Cums On.....or involving coca-cola) LOL :)
my spanish side of my brain failed to realize "COLA" was in spanish. COLA translates to tail, line, (as in waiting in a) and glue, depending on it's usage. IMHO "CULO" would be more accurate when referring to anal. as "CULO" means ass.
as a spanish speaker, when i hear someone say they got "no cola" i take that to mean they got no tail; didn't get laid.
so, when i go into Don Juan mode and whisper in her ear, " qiero tu culo" she knows i want the ass. :D
thanks to bubba boy, bandy and pelicano for clearing that up.

Genghis Khan
04-24-06, 20:32
I woke up bright and early at around 9 and immediately called Vatel69 and complained to him that Miss R had not stayed the night as agreed. He promised to call Madame G and find a solution. He also invited me over to his apartment at around 11 to discuss further actions on the matter.

I showered, shaved and got dressed before walking over to Shopping Higienopolis to buy some cans of juice to put in the hotel minibar. I also stopped by the pharmacy and bought some mouth spray. After I had returned to the hotel with what I had bought, I walked over to Vatel69's apartment. He told me that he had called Madame G and that she wanted to talk to Miss R before deciding what to do. Apparently Miss R had not been in contact with Madame G since she left me last night. Vatel69 told me that he was expecting another friend of his from the US this afternoon and had agreed to meet Ramrod at Vento Haragano for lunch. He invited me to come along too. Instead of taking a taxi to Vento Haragano we ordered their van to come pick us up. It’s a free and really nice service provided by the restaurant.

When we arrived at Vento Haragano, Ramrod was already waiting for us. The lunch at Vento Haragano was a disappointment. This is supposed to be one of the top churrascarias in Sao Paulo but the meat was overcooked and didn't look fresh. I have had better meals at the much cheaper Angelica Grill not far away.

Ramrod wanted to explore a daytime high end club. I suggested we should go to Bahamas and since Vatel69 had never been there himself because he didn't like the setup there, I managed to convince them that everybody should at least have tried to go there once. Besides there are not that many high end options open during the afternoon. We could have gone to Francebel or The Palms which was my first suggestions, but the other guys didn't want to go to a clinica. They wanted to go to a club. I really wasn't interested in drinking too much or get involved with a girl myself. I had learned my lesson from yesterday about drinking early when I had a date at night and I needed to preserve my energy for Miss D. I also had a dinner reservation at the Japanese restaurant Kinoshita where I most likely would drink a little. Vatel69 was not interested in taking a girl either, so we helped Ramrod find someone instead. Since we had been invited to drinks at the newly resurrected W on Rua Alvorada 550 in Vila Olympia (now with Beto as the owner - one of the owners from the "good old days") prior to their opening hours to be there alone with some of their girls, we didn't want to or have the time to bring any girls out or go upstairs with any girls. There were about 15-20 girls present at Bahamas. None of them would have been interesting to me but Ramrod found a girl he liked and he set up a date with her to meet her later that night when I had my date with Miss D.

We were welcomed at W by the hostess Clelia. She used to be the hostess at Jardim America and at Cafe Photo too. She showed us to a table in the garden area of the club/restaurant. We were soon surrounded by five girls. I had one morena on each side and one of them said she recognized me from W.E. where she also worked. The other morena was called Cacau and I started talking a bit with her because she spoke some English but my real interest was with the blonde sitting beside Cacau. I don't know why I liked her. She was not my normal type. She was blonde, had blue eyes, full lips and was very skinny. She had nice curvy hips and big, fake tits. I think it was the curves that made me want her in addition to her tanned flat stomach which she showed off below a low cut top. Time was flying and I was running late for my dinner reservation at Kinoshita, so I asked Vatel69 if he could call the restaurant and tell them that I would show up at around 20:30 instead of 19:00 which was the original reservation. When Cacu soon left us for a short visit to the bathroom, I asked the blonde Lais to move in closer. We talked for a while since she too spoke some limited English and soon she had her tongue down my throat. I told her that I was busy all day today but would like to meet her for lunch the next day. We set up a deal that I should call her when I was ready to go to lunch and we would discuss the price then.

After the visit at W, Ramrod returned to his hotel to meet the girl he had set up a date with from Bahamas. Vatel69 returned to his apartment to do some work and I took a taxi to have my dinner at Kinoshita. The chef recognized me since this was my third time sitting at the sushi bar in front of him having the menu degustacao. This restaurant is my favourite in Sao Paulo now and if you like Japanese food, you have definitely missed something if you haven't tried it.

A taxi took me back to my hotel around 22:00 and I showered and changed to get ready for my date with Miss D. She was arriving with a plane from Rio de Janeiro and was supposed to show up at my hotel around 23:00.

Miss D was at least prior to meeting her planned to be the highlight of this trip. She was three times as expensive as any Brazilian girl I had been with up until now. Her pictures from the last issue of magazine Sexy Premium was really hot. I suspected that the photos were probably edited to some degree. The question was how much. Another issue was of course her personality and sexual temperament. In an interview I have read about her, she says that she likes men to pop in her mouth. I can't say how much truth it is to that statement. I never asked because I didn't read the interview until after I had met her. In my opinion Miss D's pictures in Sexy Premium looks absolutely amazing. She is a morena with a perfect body, an angelic face and beautiful eyes. If you expect to meet this kind of girl in a club - forget it. You will not be able to find it. Beauties like this obviously know they are worth more than they can get from the clubs. So if Miss F was a 10, Miss D redefines my scale and rates an 11. I am referring to my opinion based on her looks alone prior to meeting her.

After I had showered, shaved and changed I had time to finish two drinks in my room before the phone rang and the receptionist informed me that Miss D had arrived. I went down to the reception with butterflies in my stomach. I was prepared for her real life appearance to be very different from the pictures. When I entered the reception area, nobody was present. I asked the receptionist where Miss D had gone and he told me that she was on her way up to my room. I hurried back into the elevator and pushed the button for floor 13.

When I got up to my room I met Miss D waiting outside my room. She was not as dressed up as Miss F or Miss R had been and she had no make up on. I can only assume she didn't want to be too dressed up on the flight from Rio and had planned to freshen up and change once she got to my hotel. I could already notice that the scar she had on her chin had been edited out in the Sexy Premium photos. After having welcomed her and given her a glass of champagne in the room, she asked me if I had any condoms. As I wrote in an earlier report, I didn't bring any condoms on this trip. I had now learned my lesson and told her that if she wanted to take a shower I would hurry outside for five minutes and get condoms at the gas station a block away from the hotel. I just prayed that they had refilled their stock because I bought the last pack they had yesterday. This time I didn't bring the key card to my hotel room though. I told Miss D that I would knock on the door when I returned.

When I got to the gas station they had luckily refilled with condoms and I bought five packs in order to have a stock for the next days in my hotel room. I hurried back to my hotel room again and knocked on the door. It took a while before the door opened but the sight that met me made the wait worth it. She welcomed me with a kiss on the mouth. Her dark, almost black hair was dripping wet and she wore only a towel. Her well shaped legs were visible beneath the towel. She told me it was my turn to shower. I had just had a shower before she arrived but she insisted, so who was I to contradict her. Into the shower I went again.

When I got out of the shower with a towel around my waist, she had removed her towel and was standing naked on the balcony waiting for me. Her nipples were long and erect. I noticed that her butt had been edited to a small degree in the Sexy Premium shoot too. Her butt in real life was to a small degree less firm, but that was nothing really noticeable. When she noticed I had finished showering, she simply approached me, took off my towel, went down on her knees and started giving me a BBBJ. This girl really knew how to give head. After a while she stood up and gave me a DFK before offering me her breasts. While kissing them I lifted her up and carried her to the bed while she wrapped her legs around my waist. I put her carefully down on her back and returned the oral pleasure she has just given me. By the amount of bodily fluids, her sounds, her movements and reactions it seemed to me that she really liked the return favour.

Miss D turned out to be great. She obviously liked sex and wanted to have sex just as much out of the bed as inside it. After a couple of hours of sex with some breaks in between we fell asleep exhausted. Before that I had asked her if it would be possible to see her again another time since I visited Sao Paulo several times every year. She gave me her phone number and told me to just call her if I ever was in Sao Paulo or Rio.

The alarm on her cell phone woke us up at 5:30 in the morning. She showered and I paid her before she took a taxi to the airport where her plane to Rio was departing at 08:00.

The next day I really didn’t think as highly of Miss D as I do now. I guess I was a little disappointed about the photo editing and my expectations had been a little too high. Now I think that Miss D is definitely the girl I have been with that I regard highest. Her looks combined with her great performance in bed is unbeatable so far among the women I have had. Miss F is a very close second, but at one third of the price compared to Miss D she probably gives the best “bang for the buck. He-he.

GK

Sperto
04-24-06, 21:10
GK, nice post.
I think your detailed reports would have even more value if you would include the prices of the GP.

Genghis Khan
04-24-06, 21:26
GK, nice post.
I think your detailed reports would have even more value if you would include the prices of the GP.

Sperto,
I used to include prices in my reports, but if you read back you will learn why I now have left it out.

GK

Sperto
04-24-06, 21:49
Sperto,
I used to include prices in my reports, but if you read back you will learn why I now have left it out.
GK
Some people might think it's crazy to pay like R$ 2000 (?) for a GP. Just as crazy as when I take a R$ 15 GP. We're all different and have different values of what it's worth to have sex.

I might never go to the clubs that you frequent, just as you would never go to VM (in VM you can't find any Sexy Premium models). Still I think it's fascinating with an insight to these places. That's why I was interested in the price-range.

Comgo
04-25-06, 02:44
GK, nice post.
I think your detailed reports would have even more value if you would include the prices of the GP.

He did include the price. You just have to do some math. He paid 3x the amount which was the most he paid for a GDP in Brazil which was 2000R in an older report and I'm guessing he paid about 400R for airfare between Rio and SP for the GDP, so roughly 6400R.

Starfe
04-25-06, 03:36
There are just some things in life that are "near" flawless & this vixen just might be one. So lets assume he got away with a bargain:

http://www.platinum-diamond-jewelry.com/images/surfaceflaw.jpg

starfe

Full Throttle
04-25-06, 15:24
I've come to enjoy GK's posts. He overpays beyond belief, but he does it with eyes wide open. I got a kick out of the idea that he went to the grocery store to replace the juices!

For those of you with budgets in a more rational realm, I'll be in SP for a few days. Tomorrow (Wednesday), I plan to spend the afternoon and evening at Eu y Eles. I think I can walk from my hotel, or, if necessary, a $2R bus.

In the unlikely event I still have energy later, off to R. Augusta.

Thursday, probably All Black or Bourbon Street, then to R. Augusta.

Clinica Kin both Thu. and Fri. afternoon.

PM if around!

FT

PS Vento is the most over-priced, overrated food venue in SP, I think. Up to US $27, I think.

Bubba Boy
04-25-06, 15:44
I got a kick out of the idea that he went to the grocery store to replace the juices!

I think this shows that GK knows the value of a dollar. An orange juice is an orange juice and not worth USD$5 that a 5 star hotel wants to charge. On the other hand if it was freshly squeezed in front of you, I am thinking GK would be prepared to pay more for this service. All about value or at least perceived value for dollar to the consumer paying for that service.

Full Throttle
04-25-06, 16:14
I don't disagree with your analogy, Bubba Boy.

I submit that I spend a lot of time getting freshly squeezed juice for the price of unsweetened Kool-Aid. But, like I said, I appreciate GK's experiences. He's not messing up the market for me, anyway.

Back to my original post...

Maybe EU y Elas Wednesday, then Millinium on Thursday.

Decisions, decisions...

FT

Exec Talent
04-25-06, 16:28
I've come to enjoy GK's posts. He overpays beyond belief, but he does it with eyes wide open. I got a kick out of the idea that he went to the grocery store to replace the juices!

I have found that most of my self-made millionaire friends all have the same perspective on money. They will pay $110,000 for a luxury car because they see the value in owning something unique. However, they cringe at the thought of paying $2.00 for a Coca-Cola® because it is a commodity. They hate to be scammed, but are generous beyond belief to those truly in need.

Personally, the last thing I do before leaving a hotel is restock the mini-bar.

Bandy
04-25-06, 17:58
It was late Thursday night and we came back from Milleneium to Excalivur to pick up our TLN dates for tonight. My friend got the feature dancer, Reneta, and I had her friend, Kelly, from Curitiba.

It was around 2:30 AM and my friend wanted to visit LOVE STORY, the famous disco in centro. However, we were quite apprehensive of this place. Reneta took full responsibility and told us not to worry about anything. She promised us a definite good time. I can tell you that without Reneta's expertise I would have never set foot in that zoo.

We reached Love Story around 3 AM. Because the next day is a holiday, the place was jam packed. Reneta held our hands, said something to the security guards and we were led upstaires to a private booth by the guards. Reneta made sure that we were constantly being escorted by the security guards, even in the bathroom. Reneta apparently comes here often and knows all the key players. And she is only 19.

For the next two and a half hours, we were having time of our life. The drinks were flowing freely and we were dancing away with our girls at our heart's content.The security guard was watching the booth and did not allow anyone to come inside our space. Reneta took my friend inside the DJ booth for some personal announcement. We were watching the jungle scene downstaires from the top. I told my friend that I would never ventured to come to this place without a person like Reneta. Kelly pointed out a famous Brazillian singing group among the crowd downstaires. I knew, this previlege of VIP treatments will cost us money. The expense was mostly for the mixed drinks and generous tips.

Finally around 5:30 AM, we decided to leave the place. Although we had escort, but at this point nobody can help us. This was simple a human wall where even an ant can not go through. Both Reneta and Kelly held our hands tight, told us to protect our wallets and moved for the end zone. After 10 miniutes of constant pushing through the crowd, we found ourselves outside of Love Story in front of a waiting cab. After some generous tipping to the guards, we were on our way to the hotel with our girls in tow.

It was an expensive way to experience this place. However, if I were to repeat it, I would only opt for this option. The entrance to the Love Story was 50 R for four of us. There were plenty of eye candies as well as standard druggies. Very loud, very crowded, very unique!

Bandy

Bandy
04-25-06, 18:04
Today was a Friday, a holiday here. So we knew the pickings will be slim. However, this is our last night here for this trip and we wanted to cover as much ground as we could.

Night started with a suggestion from Nilton. A new club in Jardins.

Aenchanter
Av. 9 de Julho, 5732
Sao Paulo
(55-11) 3062-4115

(This club is almost next to Romanza)

We did not have much time. But as Nilton always points out "para conocer", we thought what the heck! However, when we went there (around 10 PM), the guys up front told us that there was hardly any garota at this hour due to the holiday. So we did not take the tour. The club from the outside looked "high end". May be some other monger want to explore it further.

Our next goal was to visit Connection Night Club. We reached there around 11 PM. This club was the furthest from our hotel (100 R round trip) on the otherside of the town. The club was deader than dead tonight. I am sure it had something to do with the holiday. The club is the counterpart of Milleneum, but somewhat lower in prices. Huge floor space , but only 12-14 garotas, tonight. We immediately knew, we had nothing to do here. So we managed to gulp our drinks. Two girls approached us. Mine was a cute 20 yr. old morena with great natural tits. I bought a beer for her, took her in a dark corner, and felt her up. She popped open her natural tits and put my hand on those, when I questioned their fakeness. Very soon we exited that place.

Current price sturcture at Connection:

Entrance 60 R (includes drinks upto 60 R, Beer 12 R, Water, Juice 7 R, Red Bull 20 R, etc.)

Program : 250 R for one hour including room and garota. (no haggling with price with the garotas)

This trip we never visited the centro clubs. So we came back to KILT area.

First stop My Love. They all let us in free for a look. Things were terrible. The girls barely looked alive on the dance stage.

Next Stop OCEAN CLUB ( former Cocktail). May be 10 garotas. Management apologized.

Last stop KILT. Things could not be better. Full of energy, lots of girls. Soon I picked out a 21 yr. old tall University girl. Loira with a great figure. My friend also picked up a beautiful Morena.

Current prices at KILT

Entrance 35 R at the Bar (includes one drink)
Entrance 45 R at a table (includes one drink)

Garota exit drink 35 R

They put an additional 10% surcharge on the total bill

Very soon, we arrived at our hotel for our last romp in SP. I had one of the finest experiences with this girl. Too bad we had to leave for the airport by 9 AM. Otherwise, I would have kept her for a TLN. She left around 4:30 AM and I hit the sack for a couple of hours of sleep.

A nice end of the SP tours. Visited lots of new places this time. Also included some old favorites. I tried to update the price as much as possible. Hope the current mongers benefit from my reports.

A word of caution! Girls are all individuals and everybody likes different girls. So when I say that one particular girl was fantastic, it is strictly my experience with her. Yours can be totally different and you might actually hate her. So visit these places with open mind and have fun.

Bandy

Sperto
04-25-06, 18:37
Bandy,
I've never been to Love Story. It sounds like a war-zone when you describe it. Security-guards escorting you, Renata leading you by the hands and guards not letting anybody inside your booth. In what way is it like a zoo?

Genghis Khan
04-25-06, 18:59
I've come to enjoy GK's posts. He overpays beyond belief, but he does it with eyes wide open. I got a kick out of the idea that he went to the grocery store to replace the juices!


I didn't go to the grocery store to buy replacement juices. I replaced the Sprites, Coca Colas and Fantas with some healthier alternatives.
The hotel I stay at don't have a very well stocked mini bar. Juice is not part of the stock and I don't like to go down to the bar every time I want something to drink.

BTW, I thought this forum was about mongering and not about what I put in the minibar. I don't take offense from your post but it turned into a discussion with three or four posts about why I would restock the minibar which will only clutter the forum and occupy unwanted space.

I would also like to add that I have been asked by Vatel69 as a request from the madames not to put up the prices so I will not confirm any calculations on the price and certainly not the calculation given below.

GK

Full Throttle
04-25-06, 19:02
Great reports, Bandy. With drinks at Love Story $25 each (they will let you in for $25, but you get only get one drink), I bet you guys DID spend a fortune.

Went to Kilt last week. It was very good. A great mix of girls and guys. A handful of the girls were truly topnotch.

I went to Oceano after Kilt. In contrast, it was dead. Why even bother opening the doors for business? Hardly a girl to be seen, and those that were there weren't worth a look. I barely had time to argue with a girl about the purse release tip. It's some thing they started at Cocktail, and I guess the policy persists at Oceano, where AFTER you buy the TWO exit drinks for your girl, they ask you for 10R to pay for purse storage. I didn't even want this girl, so we were arguing the merits of the policy. Ridiculous.

Stopped in My Love next. Not many girls, but those that were in attendance were quite enthusiastic. Most were dancing on the little stage near the front.

Big Ben was my next stop. I found the atmosphere to be quite nice there, but very few girls or guys there. This was around 1:00AM on a Monday night, I think.

Finally, I made it to my more comfortable environ -- the red-neon district of R. Augusta. I made the circuit, stopping at Maison (New Maison was closed), Night House, Balneiro Club, the one to the right of Balneiro Club that has the bar-type counter in front and the club on the street level, and a couple more.

The best talent was at Night House.
The best atmosphere was the place next to Balneiro, but they also have the pushiest girl in history.
Maison was right in between. The girls there often seem a little bored, but I did manage to be accosted by two drunk ones. For the price of a beer and the potential of a back-room jaunt, the two girls competed vigorously but graciously in a handjob olympic event for about 30 minutes.

Since I drank the obligatory beer at each of my stops, and I was glowing from my Clinica Kin experience earlier in the day, I walked the last mile to the hotel alone and slept. Kinda' whimpy, but it was 4:15, after all.

Speaking of Clinica Kin, still my favorite stop in Sao Paulo. I know that few of you will take the advice, but if you do, choose Cleo, Stephanie, Carol, Larissa or Camila. 120R includes a pre-drink, the girl, the room, 2 showers, and a goodbye drink. The girls are sweethearts. Never had a CBJ from anyone in my 18 months of visiting.

For other cheap bastards, bus 669 "Sto Amaro" takes you within 3 blocks (Enrique Petroni Jr. stop), and the "Princesa Isabel" bus goes the opposite way.

So, AGAIN, if anyone would like to try EU Elas tomorrow, let me know.

FT

Full Throttle
04-25-06, 19:16
Bandy,
I've never been to Love Story. It sounds like a war-zone when you describe it. Security-guards escorting you,

I've litterally been dragged around by my very enthusiastic little head through the place. Never been pick-pocketed, drugged, deceived, or even had a bad experience with the girls once home. The doormen and the taxi drivers can kiss my behind, which I'm bold enough to say 4,500 miles away.

FT

Prosal
04-25-06, 20:19
I've been a regular in LS for years and I've never had a problem and felt the need to have a security Hulk close to me.

Anyway the real VIP area in Love Story are the few tables downstairs facing the podium and the dance floor, just before the stairway. There's only about 12 "good" tables and each are occupied by people who "count" : football players, well known singers or ... main drug dealers. To have a table there, you need to ask to the 'gerante', and order at least one bottle (+/- 300 R, depends if you're a regular or not. I pay mines 250 R) and a few 'refrigerantes'. Large tips to the gerante and to your waiter are expected. Be also ready to largely dispense your wiskey and to buy MANY Tequila shots to the girls who will appear out of nowhere like fireflies. At those table you'll dive into a maelstroem of full-sized butts, gorgious faces and flat naked stomachs. It's paradise.

Love story is IMO the best disco on the planet.

Pro

Bandy
04-25-06, 21:07
Bandy,
I've never been to Love Story. It sounds like a war-zone when you describe it. Security-guards escorting you, Renata leading you by the hands and guards not letting anybody inside your booth. In what way is it like a zoo?
Sperto,

Don't take my report too literally. I hate very congested place. It was so congested downstaires, that it was extremely difficult to move around without pushing people. And that's not my kind of thing!

This is not my kind of place. But I am quite aware that people generally have good time there. And as I said, there were many attractive girls, that normally I would be very interested in, under different circumstances. The fact was that our girls were more aware of our apparent vulnarability and constantly looked after us.

You certainly don't need the help of a security guard to go there. Just watch out little more than the other conventional clubs and have a good time.

My personal taste for Disco is place like HELP (in Rio), where I am frequenting every night and having a time of my life.

Again, my report should not deter you from going to LOVE STORY. That will be a shame! You should at least experience it once. And that's exactly what we intended to do.

Bandy

Comgo
04-25-06, 21:29
I would also like to add that I have been asked by Vatel69 as a request from the madames not to put up the prices so I will not confirm any calculations on the price and certainly not the calculation given below.

GK

Makes sense. Since no one knows the slightest things about the madames you're referring to telling some of their prices would seem detrimental to them. (read: sarcasm) So while you don't want to reveal such precious information as prices of totally unknown and unnamed madames (pimps), you do want to imply my calculations were wrong. If that is so, then you are the one providing misinformation because you stated you paid 2000R previously and now you stated you paid 3x that amount for this new GDP. Here are your exact words: "I also needed to change the US dollars I had left to have enough cash to pay Miss F the agreed fee of R$2000"; and in regards to this new GDP: "She was three times as expensive as any Brazilian girl I had been with up until now." Now, the other way you could be implying the calculations are wrong is that the amount is even MORE than this, in other words you paid more than 2000R previously to some other GDP so 3x that would be obviously more. If that's the case, wow...just wow. You do realize for these amounts you can have TLN with US/European top porn stars, right? When I made the original calculation post, I just wanted to make it clear the amount you paid to members who didn't want to figure it out themselves without throwing in my opinion, but since you want to "certainly' not confirm it, I'm going to give my opinion. I think you pay absurd amounts. If you'd ever like to buy anything, I'd appreciate you contacting me, I'd be more than happy to charge you 10-100x actual value. Actually though, I think I'd rather the poor GDP have your money than you, unfortunately the pimps are getting a lot of it too. To all the people mistakenly praising GK for restocking his mini-bar to save 10R, you're not very bright either. If someone pisses the large (relatively speaking) amounts of money away like he does, why would he waste 5 minutes to save such little amounts. It'd be penny-wise, pound-foolish.

Genghis Khan
04-25-06, 21:38
Makes sense. Since no one knows the slightest things about the madames you're referring to telling some of their prices would seem detrimental to them. (read: sarcasm) So while you don't want to reveal such precious information as prices of totally unknown and unnamed madames (pimps), you do want to imply my calculations were wrong. If that is so, then you are the one providing misinformation because you stated you paid 2000R previously and now you stated you paid 3x that amount for this new GDP. Here are your exact words: "I also needed to change the US dollars I had left to have enough cash to pay Miss F the agreed fee of R$2000"; and in regards to this new GDP: "She was three times as expensive as any Brazilian girl I had been with up until now." Now, the other way you could be implying the calculations are wrong is that the amount is even MORE than this, in other words you paid more than 2000R previously to some other GDP so 3x that would be obviously more. If that's the case, wow...just wow. You do realize for these amounts you can have TLN with US/European top porn stars, right? When I made the original calculation post, I just wanted to make it clear the amount you paid to members who didn't want to figure it out themselves without throwing in my opinion, but since you want to "certainly' not confirm it, I'm going to give my opinion. I think you pay absurd amounts. If you'd ever like to buy anything, I'd appreciate you contacting me, I'd be more than happy to charge you 10-100x actual value. Actually though, I think I'd rather the poor GDP have your money than you, unfortunately the pimps are getting a lot of it too. To all the people mistakenly praising GK for restocking his mini-bar to save 10R, you're not very bright either. If someone pisses the large (relatively speaking) amounts of money away like he does, why would he waste 5 minutes to save such little amounts. It'd be penny-wise, pound-foolish.

When I wrote 3x the highest I have ever had before, I forgot about the R$2000 you are referring you - I am sorry about that.

Secondly I think I am withdrawing from posting again on this forum. You and a couple of other members are constantly at my throat for something which is not your business. I actually didn't post any reports from my trip in January because of this. I had not intended to post from this trip either but some members knowing I was on my way to Sao Paulo now convinced me to post anyway. I really should not have done that. It just turns this forum into an arena for verbal fighting. This is not what I want.

What I don't understand I what motivates you to post like the qoute above. What have I ever done to you to provocte this kind of reaction? We have never even met. Why don't you just put me on your ignore list?

GK

Comgo
04-25-06, 21:43
In regards to the posts about Love Story, I've been there a couple of times. It's not like Help in Rio, very different atmosphere. There are a lot of young local guys/girls there not in the GDP scene (at least that's how it seemed to me). It's a lot like an American rave party in a warehouse with a lot of very loud repetitive music. It's not scary, but it's not as easy as Help in picking up GDP's and I don't even like Help. The prices for GDP's at LS are on the lower side though which is a plus.

Comgo
04-25-06, 21:45
When I wrote 3x the highest I have ever had before, I forgot about the R$2000 you are referring you - I am sorry about that.

GK

It's no problem, but I thought I was providing accurate information with my calculations. Why not give a ballpark to satisfy everyone's curiousity?

Comgo
04-25-06, 22:04
When I wrote 3x the highest I have ever had before, I forgot about the R$2000 you are referring you - I am sorry about that.

Secondly I think I am withdrawing from posting again on this forum. You and a couple of other members are constantly at my throat for something which is not your business. I actually didn't post any reports from my trip in January because of this. I had not intended to post from this trip either but some members knowing I was on my way to Sao Paulo now convinced me to post anyway. I really should not have done that. It just turns this forum into an arena for verbal fighting. This is not what I want.

What I don't understand I what motivates you to post like the qoute above. What have I ever done to you to provocte this kind of reaction? We have never even met. Why don't you just put me on your ignore list?

GK

You apparently edited and added to your post after I already replied once. So, I'll reply again to your new edited post. First, I said what I said IF you had in fact paid 6400R for a few hours with a GDP in Brazil, you now say you didn't so what I said doesn't really apply now does it? So, you shouldn't take offense to it. Second, you should post what you want regardless of others. I never said you shouldn't post what you like, just as I post what I like and I think is helpful to others. We're all here to communicate with each other afterall. Third, like I said before I didn't give my opinion on the amount you paid until you made a snide comment about my calculations "certainly" being wrong when I was just trying to help other members know the price you seemed to have paid from what you said. Lastly, I don't need to put anyone on my ignore list, I'm a big boy.

Bubba Boy
04-25-06, 23:25
Secondly I think I am withdrawing from posting again on this forum.

I wish people would think very hard before making negative comments about a poster that contributes to this forum with the same detail as GK. Until you actually write something of that length people don't realise how long it takes. When one hears a negative comment after sitting down for 10+ hours and writing (10 days reporting from GK) it basically makes you think "why the fuck should I bother".

For what it is worth GK, I love reading you reports. I would rather read your lengthy reports of your trips than most of the garbage in magazines that I actually pay for. Don't worry about the 1% that make negative comments, I would guess 99% of people that read this forum think your posts are very special.

Starfe
04-25-06, 23:33
Classless slob. Talk about a waste of time and space on this board....... Who cares what the f#ck he paid, its out of your league anyway. Will leave the bus stations and railways for you to post about it.


Starfe

QuackUp
04-26-06, 00:14
I had a similar experience in Love Story as Brandy. I too see the similarities with help with one big exception. Help has alot more floor space. In ls the place is small and it is always packed. The girl I was with also had the help of the guards to get us out. We also went out hand in hand, there were four of us. These guards must make out big time with the tips.

It's funny, we got there about 3:00 also and it was jammed packed. We left at 06:00 and it was like nobody left. The problem with ls, because it is so packed, you can't stroll around like you can at help. If there were to be a stunner on the other side of the room, you may never see her. If by chance you do see her, it may take 10 to 15 minutes to reach her. I'am not trying to discourage anyone from going because I had a great time there, but if you are not into crowds, you may not like it.

By the way, the guards are not only big, but they are wide. They just push there way out to the exit. It's like following your lead blocker to daylight. Hope this helps.

Comgo
04-26-06, 01:24
I wish people would think very hard before making negative comments about a poster that contributes to this forum with the same detail as GK. Until you actually write something of that length people don't realise how long it takes. When one hears a negative comment after sitting down for 10+ hours and writing (10 days reporting from GK) it basically makes you think "why the fuck should I bother".

For what it is worth GK, I love reading you reports. I would rather read your lengthy reports of your trips than most of the garbage in magazines that I actually pay for. Don't worry about the 1% that make negative comments, I would guess 99% of people that read this forum think your posts are very special.

Bubba Boy, we're all grown men here and shouldn't be so thin-skinned to run away at the first provocation from another. I'm not gonna mindlessly kiss some guy's ass no matter how entertaining his stories are. We should all share our information and expect it to be discussed in positive and negative ways. The truth of the matter about GK is for all the "extra" money he spends, he still gets ripped off, poor service, and girls that aren't perfect physically. I'm talking about older reports not just the new ones. So what's the point of paying so much more? So some pimps(madames and owners of places like WE) can get rich? I don't like pimps. Anyhow, I told him that he shouldn't stop posting because of me.

Comgo
04-26-06, 03:35
This is for all you people talking bad about genghis kahn

What is the problem with you people? This guy cant even post his reports without some clowns jumping up talking about "Well he overpays" It's none of you damn business what he pays why does that concern you? You people are ruining this board cant you see that? The ones talking trash dont even contribute to this board are the first ones to cry about someone else's money. That makes no damn sense. This is unbelieveable to read you people are worthless.

Wow, I'm guessing you have somewhere between [Deleted by Admin]. You're right, it's not my business what he pays....until it was posted on this board that I'm a member of and have a right to write on. I'm not arresting the guy or throwing stones at him, I'm stating my opinion. Go be a Nazi/Bush supporter somewhere else because you obviously can't stand to hear anyone else's opinions if they differ from yours or the ones you ass kiss. If you honestly think his reports of paying thousands of US dollars to Brazilian pimps helps you monger better, then you're delusional as well as stupid.

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Starfe
04-26-06, 03:41
You set the bar so high for the rest of us its become difficult to meet your high posting standards.



Thanks

Starfe
04-26-06, 03:52
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/search.php?searchid=1247449

Now its over to Bueonos Aires again

I hardly get out

starfe

Starfe
04-26-06, 04:20
Would someone please post one trip report from this clown? I can't find one in any search on WSG.

thanks in advance

starfe


I found one on the highly regarded Nibu site. Sorry. Now we know who he relates to .

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Comgo Did You Ever Make it to Brazil????



I haven't returned since December. The Real is so strong and the prices are so high, that's it's not as tempting as before so my next trip to Brazil might not be for a while. How is Medellin? Is it safe? How's the food/area? How long are you staying there and did you get an apartment or hotel? I've looked at the Columbia forum and I'm thinking about trying Medellin. How are the ladies' prices in American dollars? Hope you're having fun.
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Are you sure you need a stamp when you leave Brazil? Because the Federal Police just took my arrival/departure slip, looked at my passport, and handed it back at the airport before I left last time. They didn't stamp it and when I was sitting at the terminal, I checked and there was no stamp. I asked all the people that check your passport, ticket, etc. before you get on your plane and they said it's fine and I'll have no trouble coming back as long as they took my arrival/departure slip, it'll be in the computer okay or something to that effect. The reason I kept asking is because of your story and also they did stamp my other times leaving Brazil (always Rio including this last time that they didn't stamp). So should I be worried and when will I know if it's trouble, when I actually try to go through immigration in Brazil again?

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Sorry Liucio. Can Not Do It. I am in Medellin Colombia now. Maybe in Feburary 2007 I return To Brazil....
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On any given night in Copa, low season, there are probably 500 gringos. High season that might go up to 10 times that. The average tourist stays in Brazil for 10 days. So...

High season (10 x 5000) + Low season (26 x 500) = 63,000 gringos out on Copa looking for cootch every year.

Now, as I said above, most of these guys aren't mongers. In fact, given my research, I'd say at least 2/3rds of them would be here anyhow. So let's say 21,000 mongers visit Rio in a year. The average monger seems to spend about 6000 reais while he's here, so that monger dollar comes to about USD 63,000,000 a year.

Now that's a significant chunk of cash. But Rio de Janeiro receives some 750,000 tourists a year, who spend an average of USD3000 while they're here. Rio's total income, then, is 2,250,000,000 dollars from tourism. Rio's GdP is around 20,000,000,000 dollars annually. So this makes sexual tourism less than 3% of the total tourist dollar here and only about .3% of the total income of Rio.




Mac, your math and economic theory suck, stick to anthro. You think average mongers spend 6000R or about 2800USD but regular tourists spend 3000USD? Are you crazy? You think regular tourists spend more? You think regular tourists who probably come for no more than a week spend 3000USD? There are more mongers than the numbers that you're pulling out of your ass and they spend more than you think. My personal budget is much more than you estimate and I know many other mongers' budgets are as well more. You think that money stays concentrated? Those GDP's inject almost all of that money into your little economy (your economy is little to the 11+ trillion US economy). Even if all the monger money is a few percent of the income of the area, taking it away would have LARGE consequnces, much greater than the percentage it represents because of the ripple effect. I'd actually like for all monger money to stop going to Brazil so you could see what a large negative effect it would have on many local economies there, but keep telling yourself it's trivial.
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04-26-06, 04:44
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=411837&highlight=comgo#post411837

Like a broken record of complaints about prices!!!!!
Try writing just 1 report.

JUST 1

starfe

Comgo
04-26-06, 04:49
You have a mean streak a mile wide. Jackson asked us not to make this into a chat line so I will leave it that.

But I am still looking for some reports of your that i can't seem to search out? funnyWell [Deleted by Admin], I just posted today about Love Story in this very thread. You do know every report doesn't have to be [Deleted by Admin]. I have many reports with useful information, if you can't find them, then learn to read better.

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Full Throttle
04-26-06, 05:07
Well, I got no responses from anyone about going to Eu y Elas tomorrow. Good thing, as my flight was canceled. Happily, I have a first-class seat reserved tomorrow night, and will have Thursday and Friday to mess around in Sampa.

New schedule includes EU y Elas Thursday afternoon, then the clubs LATE Thursday night.

Somebody sell a bunch or Reals to make the exchange better. HURRY!

FT

Genghis Khan
04-26-06, 09:34
Comgo,

I think you should take a long look in the mirror and think about how you want to be perceived on this forum. Keep in mind that most people have not met you and don't know the real you. We can only form an opinion of you from what you write.

Even though you are hidden behind a computer somewhere unknown in the world with an anonymous name I assume you are a member of this board for a reason. I can only assume the reason might be that you want to learn and share information. When you behave like you do, you will not be taken seriously and by that probably not getting what you want out of your membership on this board.

The language you use witness a total disrespect of other people and a total lack of character, manners and education. Is that how you want to be perceived?

You keep referring to the fact that you have a right to speak your opinion about the prices I pay because I posted them on a board you are a member of. I respect that although not the way you bring those opinions forward. As a reason for understanding that you are allowed to speak your opinion about the prices I post, I left the prices out this time. Still you start an argument about it. I think you should show me some respect when I clearly want to avoid the subject. I have put in a lot of effort to share as much as I possibly can about my experience (which is more than I can say about the contributions you have made) and I expect that you respect that the prices is no longer an issue up for discussion as long as I have not posted them here. Bringing the price issue up will not help anyone. I haven't posted the name of the madame or the girl anyway, so the price information is totally useless to anyone but myself. it will only open up a can of worms and pollute this forum with trash posts.

I didn't make a "snide" comment about your calculation being wrong. I wrote that I would certainly not confirm that as the price I paid. That is a major difference and can not be seen as an attack on you no matter how you look at it.

There is also a major difference between stating your opinion and what you do. You lash out at people with language seldom used by normal, educated people and then you don't understand why people get offended. I wonder who is the real idiot here???????

I hope Jackson can check IP addresses too because your suggestion that Starfe and I are the same person is totally absurd and you have nothing to base that on what so ever. It just proves what kind of person you are. Do you think that the others posting different opinions and reactions to your behaviour is me too? There is a name for that - PARANOIA!!!!

You wrote that you don't need to put anyone on your ignore liste because you are a big boy. Well, I think you have actually proved that you are not a "big boy" and if Jackson doesn't give you a warning for your behavour I ask of you to put me on your ignore list - or could it possibly be so that you actually like picking fights like this?

Since you have been so obsessed about stating your opinion about me even though I didn't want it, I would like to return the favour and give you some advice even though it is probably unwanted. Why don't you treat people like they were standing face to face with you and you were not able to hide behind the screen of your computer? If you start showing people respect it will give you respect in return. Don't convince yourself that you know what is best in every situation for other people, especially people you know so little about as me.

I would also like to make a comment to Jackson. Is this the kind of posts you want your board cluttered with? If not, why don't you do something about it? If this board is about sharing information I am still going to participate but if you allow this kind of trash to ruin the board - I am out.

I would like other members who actually contribute on this board and share my opinion that people behaving like this should get a warning and then if they don't improve their behaviour - get kicked out, to speak their mind to the moderators too. It is contributing members like us that have the real power in here. Without us there would be no forum and no money for the owners.

Here are a few quotes of comments made by Comgo the last 24 hours:

Post 155:
"I think you pay absurd amounts. If you'd ever like to buy anything, I'd appreciate you contacting me, I'd be more than happy to charge you 10-100x actual value. Actually though, I think I'd rather the poor GDP have your money than you, unfortunately the pimps are getting a lot of it too. To all the people mistakenly praising GK for restocking his mini-bar to save 10R, you're not very bright either. If someone pisses the large (relatively speaking) amounts of money away like he does, why would he waste 5 minutes to save such little amounts. It'd be penny-wise, pound-foolish."

Post 163:
"Starfe, pathetic ass kisser. Trust me, it's you who will never be in my league, and you illiterate, someone asked what the prices were and I tried to help. I believe it was Sperto. So, I'll let you get back to providing beijos negros to your favorite guys. To point it out for the rest of you, I was attacked and called a named and only responded and clarified about someone else asking prices before you run to this idiot's rescue."

Post 167:
"Wow, I'm guessing you have somewhere between a 3rd grade and 4th grade education. You're right, it's not my business what he pays....until it was posted on this board that I'm a member of and have a right to write on. I'm not arresting the guy or throwing stones at him, I'm stating my opinion. Go be a Nazi/Bush supporter somewhere else because you obviously can't stand to hear anyone else's opinions if they differ from yours or the ones you ass kiss. If you honestly think his reports of paying thousands of US dollars to Brazilian pimps helps you monger better, then you're delusional as well as stupid."

Post 168:
"Yes, I want you to kiss my ass(sarcasm). I defy you to prove that I've contributed NOTHING to this board. I post as I please, not the way that you wish or will be entertained by. Also, I most certainly know my ass from my elbow, my ass is where you're trying to kiss and my elbow is what's knocking you off me."

Post 172:
"I'm not sure where this Bueonos Aires place is; I'm also not sure why you made a post, and edited and added to it one minute later. Why not get all your little thoughts typed down and post it all at once? Finally, I'm not sure what you're proving with this post; I didn't say you don't contribute, I asked what does posts like the previous few in this thread by you contribute? Perhaps English is not your first language."

Post 177:
"Well moron, I just posted today about Love Story in this very thread. You do know every report doesn't have to be a pornographic story-telling for you to jerk yourself off to, you pathetic shitbox. I have many reports with useful information, if you can't find them, then learn to read better."

Post 178:
"So taking up all this space, quoting irrelevant posts of mine is what you think Jackson wants? Why don't you PM me with this crap if it's so important to you, little boy?"

GK

Full Throttle
04-26-06, 14:43
Hi guys,

GK, you've made your point. Virtually everybody agrees with you. Just forget about the attacks and continue to contribute. The vast majority of us who question whether you overspend is just a matter of benign opinion. I think my favorite football team runs too much on 1st down and is unimaginative on 3rd down. It's fun to have and share opinions. It's also fun when people are a tad irreverent at times. Both can be a part of healthy discourse when done correctly. When it isn't done right, even BIG BOYS choose "Ignore."

So, who has been to both EU y Elas and Millenium, and who has an opinion which is more fun?

My new schedule only allows for 1 evening activity, I'm not coming back for some months, and I'm torn!

FT

Starfe
04-26-06, 15:59
www.thepalms.com.br/

My favorite hands down but for some reason the site is not coimg up. Keep checking back. 7 or 8 girls with a wonderful setting. I have never has a bad experience there.

starfe

Genghis Khan
04-26-06, 17:09
Hi guys,

GK, you've made your point. Virtually everybody agrees with you. Just forget about the attacks and continue to contribute. The vast majority of us who question whether you overspend is just a matter of benign opinion. I think my favorite football team runs too much on 1st down and is unimaginative on 3rd down. It's fun to have and share opinions. It's also fun when people are a tad irreverent at times. Both can be a part of healthy discourse when done correctly. When it isn't done right, even BIG BOYS choose "Ignore."

So, who has been to both EU y Elas and Millenium, and who has an opinion which is more fun?

My new schedule only allows for 1 evening activity, I'm not coming back for some months, and I'm torn!

FT

I have no problem what so ever with a difference of opinion but there is a right and a wrong way to adress that opinion. I will not accept the way this has been done.

GK

Full Throttle
04-26-06, 20:59
Of course, GK. The recommendation doesn't apply the the current unfortunate situation. But, you hinted that you would stop posting, and I'd hate to see that.

SO, The Palms, huh? No prices mentioned on the internet site. They'd have to work awfully hard to unseat Clinica Kin in my book.

Still wondering about Eu y Elas vs. Millineum, but maybe they don't cross-polinate.

I'll report after tomorrow on Eu y Elas.

FT

Comgo
04-26-06, 21:39
Comgo,

I think you should take a long look in the mirror and think about how you want to be perceived on this forum. Keep in mind that most people have not met you and don't know the real you. We can only form an opinion of you from what you write.

Even though you are hidden behind a computer somewhere unknown in the world with an anonymous name I assume you are a member of this board for a reason. I can only assume the reason might be that you want to learn and share information. When you behave like you do, you will not be taken seriously and by that probably not getting what you want out of your membership on this board.

The language you use witness a total disrespect of other people and a total lack of character, manners and education. Is that how you want to be perceived?

You keep referring to the fact that you have a right to speak your opinion about the prices I pay because I posted them on a board you are a member of. I respect that although not the way you bring those opinions forward. As a reason for understanding that you are allowed to speak your opinion about the prices I post, I left the prices out this time. Still you start an argument about it. I think you should show me some respect when I clearly want to avoid the subject. I have put in a lot of effort to share as much as I possibly can about my experience (which is more than I can say about the contributions you have made) and I expect that you respect that the prices is no longer an issue up for discussion as long as I have not posted them here. Bringing the price issue up will not help anyone. I haven't posted the name of the madame or the girl anyway, so the price information is totally useless to anyone but myself. it will only open up a can of worms and pollute this forum with trash posts.

I didn't make a "snide" comment about your calculation being wrong. I wrote that I would certainly not confirm that as the price I paid. That is a major difference and can not be seen as an attack on you no matter how you look at it.

There is also a major difference between stating your opinion and what you do. You lash out at people with language seldom used by normal, educated people and then you don't understand why people get offended. I wonder who is the real idiot here???????

I hope Jackson can check IP addresses too because your suggestion that Starfe and I are the same person is totally absurd and you have nothing to base that on what so ever. It just proves what kind of person you are. Do you think that the others posting different opinions and reactions to your behaviour is me too? There is a name for that - PARANOIA!!!!

You wrote that you don't need to put anyone on your ignore liste because you are a big boy. Well, I think you have actually proved that you are not a "big boy" and if Jackson doesn't give you a warning for your behavour I ask of you to put me on your ignore list - or could it possibly be so that you actually like picking fights like this?

Since you have been so obsessed about stating your opinion about me even though I didn't want it, I would like to return the favour and give you some advice even though it is probably unwanted. Why don't you treat people like they were standing face to face with you and you were not able to hide behind the screen of your computer? If you start showing people respect it will give you respect in return. Don't convince yourself that you know what is best in every situation for other people, especially people you know so little about as me.

I would also like to make a comment to Jackson. Is this the kind of posts you want your board cluttered with? If not, why don't you do something about it? If this board is about sharing information I am still going to participate but if you allow this kind of trash to ruin the board - I am out.

I would like other members who actually contribute on this board and share my opinion that people behaving like this should get a warning and then if they don't improve their behaviour - get kicked out, to speak their mind to the moderators too. It is contributing members like us that have the real power in here. Without us there would be no forum and no money for the owners.



GK

I'm only quoting what you actually wrote for brevity's sake; although, I'm going to address the quotes of mine you put up as well. This started when Sperto and others expressed interest in knowing the prices you paid. Since I thought you wrote what you meant, I thought that I could address the question for him and thus did. Your response to this was an arrogant dismissal that the calculation was incorrect and you won't provide the actual number to satisfy some namesless pimps (madames). I then responded and explained how I did my calculations from what you said and then gave my opinion that if indeed you had paid 6400R for about 5 hours with a Brazilian GDP that you paid an absurd amount. I was then attacked and called many names from "classless slob" to "clown" without ANY provocation from me to these people other than their perceived fear that you would stop posting because I dared to say something even slightly negative about your posts. ALL THE POSTS THAT YOU QUOTED FROM ME ARE OUT OF CONTEXT AND ONLY IN DIRECT RESPONSE TO SOMEONE ATTACKING ME FIRST IN THE SAME MANNER, and thus I turned it on them. SHOW ME WHERE I CALLED *YOU* GENGHIS KHAN, ONE DEROGATORY NAME IN ALL OF THESE POSTS OF THE PAST 24 HOURS. I'm capitalizing because a lot of you seem thick and don't understand the situation even though it's right in front of you in black and white. Read from my calculation on in this thread and you'll see what happened. GK, perhaps you didn't think you're being arrogant and making a snide comment, but coupling your dismissal of my calculation and saying you won't answer the question most certainly seemed that way to me. If you wanted it not to be then perhaps you should have said something along the lines of "The calculations below aren't correct because I forgot about the 2000R GDP so this new one wouldn't be 3x as expensive as my previous most expensive," or "The amount from the calculations isn't right, but I can't tell you how much because the madames asked me not to." There is a difference in wording that makes a huge difference in tone when read. Perhaps you're not familiar with such things. The reason I think there is a possibility that Starfe and you,GK, are one person is because when you read through your and his posts, he hangs off your nuts, he's always there with you, defending you like you're his husband. Perhaps he's just that pathetic, but I thought it more reasonable that you're one person using two names since this is the INTERNET. Starfe has done the same thing in regards to you in more than just this year. Either way, a simple IP log check would answer the question quickly. I think you should take your own advice and take a long look in the mirror and let me be clear if I was spoken to like I was on this board I most certainly would respond as I have written in person and would be quite happy to physically defend myself if needed. You DO NOT know me in real life, is the one true thing you can say.

Comgo
04-26-06, 21:48
Of course, GK. The recommendation doesn't apply the the current unfortunate situation. But, you hinted that you would stop posting, and I'd hate to see that.

SO, The Palms, huh? No prices mentioned on the internet site. They'd have to work awfully hard to unseat Clinica Kin in my book.

Still wondering about Eu y Elas vs. Millineum, but maybe they don't cross-polinate.

I'll report after tomorrow on Eu y Elas.

FT

Even though you seem to be siding with GK on this issue, at least you've been civil, I'll answer your question for you, the Palms will run you 300+R for an hour. The girls are higher quality than the other clinicas and if you need a convenient place to go with higher end girls to get it done and leave, it's not bad. Otherwise, you might as well go to Bahamas or the such since you'll pay a little more but get the whole club atmosphere and get to test your chemistry with the girls and spend more time with them overall. I like Clinica Kin as well, Clinica Quatro E. wasn't bad either when I went (I can get the full spelling for you if you want, it was 150R/hr I believe).

Genghis Khan
04-26-06, 22:26
I'm only quoting what you actually wrote for brevity's sake; although, I'm going to address the quotes of mine you put up as well. This started when Sperto and others expressed interest in knowing the prices you paid. Since I thought you wrote what you meant, I thought that I could address the question for him and thus did. Your response to this was an arrogant dismissal that the calculation was incorrect and you won't provide the actual number to satisfy some namesless pimps (madames). I then responded and explained how I did my calculations from what you said and then gave my opinion that if indeed you had paid 6400R for about 5 hours with a Brazilian GDP that you paid an absurd amount. I was then attacked and called many names from "classless slob" to "clown" without ANY provocation from me to these people other than their perceived fear that you would stop posting because I dared to say something even slightly negative about your posts. ALL THE POSTS THAT YOU QUOTED FROM ME ARE OUT OF CONTEXT AND ONLY IN DIRECT RESPONSE TO SOMEONE ATTACKING ME FIRST IN THE SAME MANNER, and thus I turned it on them. SHOW ME WHERE I CALLED *YOU* GENGHIS KHAN, ONE DEROGATORY NAME IN ALL OF THESE POSTS OF THE PAST 24 HOURS. I'm capitalizing because a lot of you seem thick and don't understand the situation even though it's right in front of you in black and white. Read from my calculation on in this thread and you'll see what happened. GK, perhaps you didn't think you're being arrogant and making a snide comment, but coupling your dismissal of my calculation and saying you won't answer the question most certainly seemed that way to me. If you wanted it not to be then perhaps you should have said something along the lines of "The calculations below aren't correct because I forgot about the 2000R GDP so this new one wouldn't be 3x as expensive as my previous most expensive," or "The amount from the calculations isn't right, but I can't tell you how much because the madames asked me not to." There is a difference in wording that makes a huge difference in tone when read. Perhaps you're not familiar with such things. The reason I think there is a possibility that Starfe and you,GK, are one person is because when you read through your and his posts, he hangs off your nuts, he's always there with you, defending you like you're his husband. Perhaps he's just that pathetic, but I thought it more reasonable that you're one person using two names since this is the INTERNET. Starfe has done the same thing in regards to you in more than just this year. Either way, a simple IP log check would answer the question quickly. I think you should take your own advice and take a long look in the mirror and let me be clear if I was spoken to like I was on this board I most certainly would respond as I have written in person and would be quite happy to physically defend myself if needed. You DO NOT know me in real life, is the one true thing you can say.

How am I arrogant when I simply told that I certainly was not going to confirm your calculation. I didn't say that your calculation was wrong. I simply stated that I certainly would not confirm it as the price I paid. I don't see where that is arrogant. Please enlighten me!

You were not called a classless snob without provocation. The provocation you brought on was this: "I think you pay absurd amounts. If you'd ever like to buy anything, I'd appreciate you contacting me, I'd be more than happy to charge you 10-100x actual value. Actually though, I think I'd rather the poor GDP have your money than you, unfortunately the pimps are getting a lot of it too. To all the people mistakenly praising GK for restocking his mini-bar to save 10R, you're not very bright either. If someone pisses the large (relatively speaking) amounts of money away like he does, why would he waste 5 minutes to save such little amounts. It'd be penny-wise, pound-foolish."

To make it quite clear - you started this by the comment I just quoted and the fact that others are mostly siding with me and some (Starfe) even reacting quite strongly to your behavoiur should indicate to you that the problem here is you.

Secondly you talk to me about difference in wording that makes a huge difference in tone when read - but take a look at what you have posted yourself. If anyone should rephrase themselves it should be you and I don't care if you didn't make the comments to me. That kind of behaviour is not something I want to be part of. So if this is not dealt with in a proper manner I have written my last report on this forum.

...and don't pretend to be so innocent. The reason why I have left out the prices from my reports is because you started just the same verbal fight the last time I posted too. Given that context I can't but believe that your initial calculation was nothing but a of way telling people I was stuid (later proved by yourself in the quoted text above). You may have the right to state your opinion on this board but the posting rules clearly says that you are not allowed to post insults. Given the language used in your remarkes I can't even with the best frame of mind come to another conclusion that your posts have been nothing but a way to insult me.

GK

Comgo
04-26-06, 22:44
How am I arrogant when I simply told that I certainly was not going to confirm your calculation. I didn't say that your calculation was wrong. I simply stated that I certainly would not confirm it as the price I paid. I don't see where that is arrogant. Please enlighten me!

You were not called a classless snob without provocation. The provocation you brought on was this: "I think you pay absurd amounts. If you'd ever like to buy anything, I'd appreciate you contacting me, I'd be more than happy to charge you 10-100x actual value. Actually though, I think I'd rather the poor GDP have your money than you, unfortunately the pimps are getting a lot of it too. To all the people mistakenly praising GK for restocking his mini-bar to save 10R, you're not very bright either. If someone pisses the large (relatively speaking) amounts of money away like he does, why would he waste 5 minutes to save such little amounts. It'd be penny-wise, pound-foolish."

To make it quite clear - you started this by the comment I just quoted and the fact that others are mostly siding with me and some (Starfe) even reacting quite strongly to your behavoiur should indicate to you that the problem here is you.

Secondly you talk to me about difference in wording that makes a huge difference in tone when read - but take a look at what you have posted yourself. If anyone should rephrase themselves it should be you and I don't care if you didn't make the comments to me. That kind of behaviour is not something I want to be part of. So if this is not dealt with in a proper manner I have written my last report on this forum.

GK

Ok, let's discuss why your statement was arrogant. Here's what you said, "I would also like to add that I have been asked by Vatel69 as a request from the madames not to put up the prices so I will not confirm any calculations on the price and certainly not the calculation given below." First, you refuse to answer the question, fair enough, then you dismiss the calculation given below, also in and of itself ok, but writing "certainly" adds arrogance and then when re-coupled with the refusal to give information on a board where you're supposed to (because of pimps asking you not to) and dismissing information (the calculation) without stating it's your fault it's wrong (you forgot about your 2000R GDP from two months ago, which frankly I don't see how you could forget when you spoke of her in these recent reports again, I think you just wanted to say 3x as expensive for grandeur even if it wasn't the case). I didn't call you any names, I said you pay absurd prices (most would agree it's true) especially when it seemed you paid 6400R for 5 hours with a Brazilian GDP, I then made a joke that I'd like to sell you things since you seem to like to pay inflated prices, and then I remarked on others mistakenly thinking you re-stock your mini-bar for 10R savings. For all this, I got called names from "classless slob" to "clown" etc. Notice, I had called no one a name. Let me address something else, you seem to think because many members support your side for whatever reason that must mean you are right, so I guess Bush was right about WMD's in Iraq also since the majority of people in the US supported him for whatever their reason before the US went to war. That's not how things really work. Also, I'm quite aware of my tone in my posts and it's deliberate.

Genghis Khan
04-26-06, 22:56
Ok, let's discuss why your statement was arrogant. Here's what you said, "I would also like to add that I have been asked by Vatel69 as a request from the madames not to put up the prices so I will not confirm any calculations on the price and certainly not the calculation given below." First, you refuse to answer the question, fair enough, then you dismiss the calculation given below, also in and of itself ok, but writing "certainly" adds arrogance and then when re-coupled with the refusal to give information on a board where you're supposed to (because of pimps asking you not to) and dismissing information (the calculation) without stating it's your fault it's wrong (you forgot about your 2000R GDP from two months ago, which frankly I don't see how you could forget when you spoke of her in these recent reports again, I think you just wanted to say 3x as expensive for grandeur even if it wasn't the case). I didn't call you any names, I said you pay absurd prices (most would agree it's true) especially when it seemed you paid 6400R for 5 hours with a Brazilian GDP, I then made a joke that I'd like to sell you things since you seem to like to pay inflated prices, and then I remarked on others mistakenly thinking you re-stock your mini-bar for 10R savings. For all this, I got called names from "classless slob" to "clown" etc. Notice, I had called no one a name. Let me address something else, you seem to think because many members support your side for whatever reason that must mean you are right, so I guess Bush was right about WMD's in Iraq also since the majority of people in the US supported him for whatever their reason before the US went to war. That's not how things really work. Also, I'm quite aware of my tone in my posts and it's deliberate.

My first date with Miss R. was in October last year - thats half a year ago. I don't think anyone on this forum thought or even now believe that you were joking in your remark about selling things to me - especially if you look back at what you have written about me and what I pay in your earlier posts.

The "certainly" was not put in my post to dismiss you but simply a way of saying that you were way off target of what I actually paid.

You also write that I almost have an obligation to post my prices on this board because it is a place for sharing information. To that remark I would simply like to ask you which one of us have contributed the most and since you then hold back more than I do - why do you request more from me than you do yourself.

GK

Comgo
04-26-06, 23:12
You also write that I almost have an obligation to post my prices on this board because it is a place for sharing information. To that remark I would simply like to ask you which one of us have contributed the most and since you then hold back more than I do - why do you request more from me than you do yourself.

GK

I'm going to address this here since I think it's relevant, but the rest I've PMed you about. When I write a "report", I give the place, price, etc. Things that are useful to other members to monger. I don't give details like what positions I did with the girl because I don't think it's helpful except to perhaps Starfe who likes to touch himself while he reads these reports (one more zing for Starfe...it's a joke, calm down). Thus, I don't expect more from you, just the same important things we should all be forthcoming about like location, prices, type of girls available, etc.

Genghis Khan
04-27-06, 06:57
I'm going to address this here since I think it's relevant, but the rest I've PMed you about. When I write a "report", I give the place, price, etc. Things that are useful to other members to monger. I don't give details like what positions I did with the girl because I don't think it's helpful except to perhaps Starfe who likes to touch himself while he reads these reports (one more zing for Starfe...it's a joke, calm down). Thus, I don't expect more from you, just the same important things we should all be forthcoming about like location, prices, type of girls available, etc.

There you go with more of the same insulting tone. How could you possibly know that about Starfe. Maybe you like to watch and have been there seeing him? There is no point in hiding behind a statement claiming it was a joke when you so obviously have followed the same line of posting several times before without it being a joke.

You are not at liberty to tell other people how to post and I did post prices in the past, but your behaviour put a stop to that so look in the mirror again and see the reason why I am not posting prices now. If you did a poll on the forum if the members preferred my way of contribution or yours - I think we both know what the result would be.

I did not think you actually meant to sell me anything, but the comment was no joke. It was figurative speach and you meant every word you said because your main purpose was to insult me. You even wrote this to point out that this was your opinion: "I just wanted to make it clear the amount you paid to members who didn't want to figure it out themselves without throwing in my opinion, but since you want to "certainly' not confirm it, I'm going to give my opinion." So you don't only insult me you also lie to me by writing you were joking!!!!

...and by the way you challenged me to "SHOW ME WHERE I CALLED *YOU* GENGHIS KHAN, ONE DEROGATORY NAME IN ALL OF THESE POSTS OF THE PAST 24 HOURS". Does this quote sound familiar: "Starfe, pathetic ass kisser. Trust me, it's you who will never be in my league, and you illiterate, someone asked what the prices were and I tried to help. I believe it was Sperto. So, I'll let you get back to providing beijos negros to your favorite guys. To point it out for the rest of you, I was attacked and called a named and only responded and clarified about someone else asking prices before you run to this idiot's rescue." I assume idiot is "derogatory" where you come from too, unless you have been raised in the sewers.

...and if you look closer you will find that Starfe has actually mostly defended me when you have been involved!!!!!

GK

Vatel69
04-27-06, 11:43
Makes sense. Since no one knows the slightest things about the madames you're referring to telling some of their prices would seem detrimental to them. (read: sarcasm) So while you don't want to reveal such precious information as prices of totally unknown and unnamed madames (pimps), you do want to imply my calculations were wrong. If that is so, then you are the one providing misinformation because you stated you paid 2000R previously and now you stated you paid 3x that amount for this new GDP. Here are your exact words: "I also needed to change the US dollars I had left to have enough cash to pay Miss F the agreed fee of R$2000"; and in regards to this new GDP: "She was three times as expensive as any Brazilian girl I had been with up until now." Now, the other way you could be implying the calculations are wrong is that the amount is even MORE than this, in other words you paid more than 2000R previously to some other GDP so 3x that would be obviously more. If that's the case, wow...just wow. You do realize for these amounts you can have TLN with US/European top porn stars, right? When I made the original calculation post, I just wanted to make it clear the amount you paid to members who didn't want to figure it out themselves without throwing in my opinion, but since you want to "certainly' not confirm it, I'm going to give my opinion. I think you pay absurd amounts. If you'd ever like to buy anything, I'd appreciate you contacting me, I'd be more than happy to charge you 10-100x actual value. Actually though, I think I'd rather the poor GDP have your money than you, unfortunately the pimps are getting a lot of it too. To all the people mistakenly praising GK for restocking his mini-bar to save 10R, you're not very bright either. If someone pisses the large (relatively speaking) amounts of money away like he does, why would he waste 5 minutes to save such little amounts. It'd be penny-wise, pound-foolish.Comgo,

Honestly you are one of the reasons people are writing their reports less and less in forums in general. If the guy wants to restock his mini bar from the convenience store, its his problem. Maybe he doesn´t want the stuff the hotel has to offer. I know for instance that GK likes to stock on Red Bull but the hotel doenst have it. So he won´t drink what he wants because he is not supposed to go to the convenience store?

Another answer for you about the prices given to GK for certain girls are because GK do get a different prices for certain girls because of the number of bussiness I bring to them(madams). The prices are different for different people and different times.

I know of cases of people that have paid 100.000 reais for 3 hours with a famous woman in Brazil. I personally know guys whom have spent 10,000.00US for 2 hours with used to be famous actress. Same way people spend 1000000US$ to get a car and take them from point A to point B.
If you want to find out the prices for high end girls, I do have a sugggestion, call the madams and ask them yourself.

The major difference being that in boites, termas and clinicas the prices are fixed. At the high end level, there are several things that can influence the prices.

And one last thing. Who is anybody to tell anyone about how people spend their money? I myself don´t like places where they charge 20 reais for time with girls but hey I got friends who loves them. Who am I to criticize them?
I went thru your posts and the majority is that you are looking for the best bang for the buck. That´s ok in my books. We all agree that the best bang is the free one, right? Who are we to criticize each others choice?

I myself at first tried to tell GK not to take Miss F first time he wanted but he wanted so much that I just gave up. He has been with her 3 times and loves it more everytime. Do I think he spend too much on high end? Yes and he knows it. Do I give him a hard time about it? No. Why? It´s his money and he knows how much work it takes to get the girls. Does he have fun? I hope so for the the amount of money he spends. Is it worth? I think it is, since next day we always have talks about it and he seems pleased most of the time. Just as does nickster53 when he comes down here and I take him out and set him up with girls at lower fees compared to GK. He gets his kick from different girls. Who are you to critisize whoever take who.

If anybody wants to find out how much a high end agency girls cost, I think most of the members here are smart enough to figure out or they know who to ask about it.

Last but not least, CARPE DIEM.

Comgo
04-27-06, 16:52
Comgo,
Honestly you are one of the reasons people are writing their reports less and less in forums in general. If the guy wants to restock his mini bar from the convenience store, its his problem. Maybe he doesn´t want the stuff the hotel has to offer. I know for instance that GK likes to stock on Red Bull but the hotel doenst have it. So he won´t drink what he wants because he is not supposed to go to the convenience store?
Another answer for you about the prices given to GK for certain girls are because GK do get a different prices for certain girls because of the number of bussiness I bring to them(madams). The prices are different for different people and different times.
I know of cases of people that have paid 100.000 reais for 3 hours with a famous woman in Brazil. I personally know guys whom have spent 10,000.00US for 2 hours with used to be famous actress. Same way people spend 1000000US$ to get a car and take them from point A to point B.
If you want to find out the prices for high end girls, I do have a sugggestion, call the madams and ask them yourself.
The major difference being that in boites, termas and clinicas the prices are fixed. At the high end level, there are several things that can influence the prices.
And one last thing. Who is anybody to tell anyone about how people spend their money? I myself don´t like places where they charge 20 reais for time with girls but hey I got friends who loves them. Who am I to criticize them?
I went thru your posts and the majority is that you are looking for the best bang for the buck. That´s ok in my books. We all agree that the best bang is the free one, right? Who are we to criticize each others choice?
I myself at first tried to tell GK not to take Miss F first time he wanted but he wanted so much that I just gave up. He has been with her 3 times and loves it more everytime. Do I think he spend too much on high end? Yes and he knows it. Do I give him a hard time about it? No. Why? It´s his money and he knows how much work it takes to get the girls. Does he have fun? I hope so for the the amount of money he spends. Is it worth? I think it is, since next day we always have talks about it and he seems pleased most of the time. Just as does nickster53 when he comes down here and I take him out and set him up with girls at lower fees compared to GK. He gets his kick from different girls. Who are you to critisize whoever take who.
If anybody wants to find out how much a high end agency girls cost, I think most of the members here are smart enough to figure out or they know who to askt about it.
Last but not least, CARPE DIEM.
PS.: COMGO= VSF

Vatel, I know that you're living in SP and of Asian descent I believe, so perhaps English really isn't your first language. Re-stocking your mini bar is when you eat from the mini-bar and then go to the grocery store and buy the same things and replace them so the hotel doesn't charge you the high hotel mini-bar rates. I was stating that I doubt GK does this and it would be a waste of time for him since he spends so much on other things. Also, I think I have the right to criticize on this message board, GK shouldn't be such a baby. So what's a VSF stand for, I'm sure something bad. GK, I've PMed you in response to your post. Everyone take this to PM with me if you want to continue it.

Genghis Khan
04-27-06, 17:05
PM from Comgo:
"Perhaps you missed my last PM. I'm trying not to clutter the SP thread with this anymore. The "idiot" I was referring to not being rescued was STARFE not you. Perhaps because you're a Mongol, you don't understand English well. I didn't lie at all. I said I wasn't going to give my opinion until you arrogantly dismissed my calculations, I never would sell you anything either way. I have no need to."

I am not Mongol and I understand perfectly well what you meant. How could it be misinterperated. This is what you wrote in a post to Starfe: "To point it out for the rest of you, I was attacked and called a named and only responded and clarified about someone else asking prices before you run to this idiot's rescue." Since it is Starfe that you think is running to an idiot's rescue. That idiot certainly can't be himself or is it you who can't express yourself in clear terms in English?

GK

Genghis Khan
04-27-06, 17:08
Vatel, I know that you're living in SP and of Asian descent I believe, so perhaps English really isn't your first language. Re-stocking your mini bar is when you eat from the mini-bar and then go to the grocery store and buy the same things and replace them so the hotel doesn't charge you the high hotel mini-bar rates. I was stating that I doubt GK does this and it would be a waste of time for him since he spends so much on other things. Also, I think I have the right to criticize on this message board, GK shouldn't be such a baby. So what's a VSF stand for, I'm sure something bad. GK, I've PMed you in response to your post. Everyone take this to PM with me if you want to continue it.

No, re-stocking the min-bar could also mean that the contents are removed to be replaced by something else, and I am no baby even though I will not let you insult me.

You don't respect the posting guidelines and you don't respect the fact that I don't like to be called an idiot and a baby. You are not able to make a single post where you disagree with someone without throwing in an insult on the way. Just look at the post to Vatel69 too - he understands English perfectly!!!

GK

Sui Generis
04-27-06, 17:09
So what's a VSF stand for, I'm sure something bad.

Not sure, but VSF could probably means «Vai se foder!» (Go f**k yourself!)

I' m just reporting the meaning of VSF. I'm not taking part (nor position) in this personal quarrel.

Peace!

Vatel69
04-27-06, 19:13
Vatel, I know that you're living in SP and of Asian descent I believe, so perhaps English really isn't your first language. Re-stocking your mini bar is when you eat from the mini-bar and then go to the grocery store and buy the same things and replace them so the hotel doesn't charge you the high hotel mini-bar rates. I was stating that I doubt GK does this and it would be a waste of time for him since he spends so much on other things. Also, I think I have the right to criticize on this message board, GK shouldn't be such a baby. So what's a VSF stand for, I'm sure something bad. GK, I've PMed you in response to your post. Everyone take this to PM with me if you want to continue it.

Perhaps my english is not the best but........................
Forget it. It is a waste to use my time with you.
No, I don´t think you have the right to criticize anyone in this forum.

Carrib
04-28-06, 01:16
GK

I have never posted in this forum but I've enjoyed reading your reports. This is why I feel compelled to say something. I sure hope that you make full use of the IGNORE option and continue your reports. There are different levels of mongering--some guys love to go with street level skanks while others--bargain shop...then there is the upscale monger. Most of the time these guys will never post in a forum like this, so I think I can safely say that everyone agrees with you and appreciate your contribution to this board.

I look forward to your future posts---the restaurant reviews..keep posting and stop this bantering.

for those of u who dont remember

CLick on USER CP
on the bottom left, under MISC you should see Buddy/Ignore list

Marglo
04-28-06, 01:51
I know the Sao Paulo extremely well both at the highest levels and the Augusta walk. Everyone should appreciate Gengkis Khan because his reports are spot on. There is absolutely no exaggeration. This is the world of the Sao Paulo high end. The woman and service are nonpariel. Does that mean someone cannot have an equally great experience at Kilt, no. In fact, the best, wildest, most fantastic time I ever had was with a woman I picked up on Augusta. She had no phone and I never found her again. When I first noticed her, she was so beautiful that I had difficulty believing she was working.

The mini-bar discussion I find funny because I always restock mine. I like to eat and drink what I want when I want. I can afford a $5.00 bag of nuts at The Four Seasons, but it still bothers me. I define ripoff as the price of laundry at a hotel. I will spend $2000 dollars for a model in Sao Paulo without regret. Also, know that my favorite waif charges me $200 reals for the night. Both are equally great experiences. For the $5.00 the hotel charges for a coke I prefer to buy my own.

Gengkis Khan is my Magellan. Ultimately, money is bullshit and the real prize is the experience.

Genghis Khan
04-28-06, 07:51
GK

I have never posted in this forum but I've enjoyed reading your reports. This is why I feel compelled to say something. I sure hope that you make full use of the IGNORE option and continue your reports. There are different levels of mongering--some guys love to go with street level skanks while others--bargain shop...then there is the upscale monger. Most of the time these guys will never post in a forum like this, so I think I can safely say that everyone agrees with you and appreciate your contribution to this board.

I look forward to your future posts---the restaurant reviews..keep posting and stop this bantering.

for those of u who dont remember

CLick on USER CP
on the bottom left, under MISC you should see Buddy/Ignore list

Carrib, I have to ask you this - do you think it is fair that I should put up with Comgo's insults? I am willing to share my experiences on this forum which is what this forum should be about. He thinks he can critizise and insult me just because I shared my experience on this forum for all to read as if I were running a company and it was an advertisement I put up. Keep in mind that what I am sharing really is very personal information. I am doing you guys a favour here because I can just as easily not post - and if my posts are not really that interesting because you think I overpay or if my posts only provoce anger maybe that is for the best. I think however that sharing is part of what is fun with this hobby and guys like us that don't live in Sao Paulo learn a whole lot from this kind of forum. Since we all rely on the sharing of information for this board to be of use, I think it is only logical that we should treat each other with respect and well behaved manners - not with insults. Otherwise there will not be members left to share that information. Nobody has got a right to critize or insult, but sharing opinions are another matter. Its all about how those opinions are brought forward.

Comgo has been throwing insults at me when I have written reports as long as he has been a member - and then I am the one who should use the IGNORE function? His insults will not disappear just because I ignore him. He will probably insult others then - because this is the way he is. Look at the posts to Starfe and Vatel69. This guys behaviour will not go away just because I ignore him.

...and no there will be no more reports from me until either Comgo himself or one of the moderators promise that no more insults from Comgo will apear on this forum.

I am again calliing on the moderators to have a look at this because he has clearly violated the rules this forum is based on with several members and with me when I have been reporting ever since he became a member.

GK

Genghis Khan
04-28-06, 08:27
Ultimately, money is bullshit and the real prize is the experience.

I couldn't agree more.

GK

Tommy America
04-28-06, 14:51
GK,

I agree with the prevailing opinions here. Your reports are honest and refreshing. I have been traceling to Brazil for 15 years now. I do not contribute a smuch as I would like, but your posts are extremely valuable.

Do not let others wear you down!

Obrigado!

Full Throttle
04-28-06, 16:44
in the spirit of multi-cultural and multi-budget experiences, and just for the hell of it, i had a very busy day, yesterday.

first, i went in search of eu y elas. i took the subway to paraiso, which turned out to be a minor mistake, as i get completely turned around when exiting a metro station. i went every direction before figuring out the correct way, then the picture i took on my phone of the website map cutout made it seem like you could hop right off 23 de mayo. it turns out you actually have to go of verquero, or whatever. so, 1.5 hours of walking later, i found the place.

the plan was to take a look and then bring back my colleagues around 6:30. unfortunately, the dweeby little doorman wouldn't let me take a look without paying the $59 reals entrance. it seemed like a great place, far more classy from the outside than the rio termas i've been in. but, i wasn't going to pay twice, so i left. i found a bus stop right across the street on aclmicao (or whatever), and a bus arrived shortly to take me back to paulista ave. and the metro stations. man, the buses get crowded in sao paulo!

my colleagues were rather lethargic and non-committal, so drifted into the deadzone-- that time when it is too early to enjoy the centro clubs and too late for eu y elas. after prying them away from the ridiculous hotel bar, we went down to that street the buses all take to go from paulista down to park ibiriapuera. there are about 5 indoor-outdoor bar/restaurants, anchored by rascals, a fairly nice restaurant. had some beers and sandwiches and enjoyed the thursday night crowd.

after much discussion, we decided on café millennium. i've got to say that the place is quite impressive. the layout is very nice, as everything flows. the pool area adds a nice touch. we watched the bachelor stage show from above, saw the well-equipped gymnasium, observed diners enjoying some rather appealing dishes in the restaurant, and appreciated the pleasant attitude of the 100+ girls in attendance. however, we didn't stay. i tipped the giant doorman who gave us the 15 minute tour, and we left.

now, i know you think this is another example of my cheapness, but it was actually my colleague's fault that we didn't stay. he wanted take-out, and the 200 or 250 real fee was unappealing. i understand that bringing girls to your hotel has some advantages, but i have come to appreciate on-site activities of late.

so, off to centro. went to hotel vergero or whatever. across from kilt. they waived the 20r cover, which didn't seem to be unusual. if you pay it, you might be the first. the sex show was going on. like watching a porn movie in ultra high-speed. a new position ever 20 seconds or so. it was the same couple i have seen at cocktail and kilt in the past. somebody said they were married. very lame, but the girls seem to like it. also, in the background, the porn movies were playing as usual, but the genre of the night was [CodeWord118] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord118), which i don't think i've seen in a public venue.

there were 4-5 very doable girls among the 20+. i liked the atmosphere, and the girls seemed nice. however, one of the guys insisted on kilt.

not much to report. there were many. the guy that wanted to go immediately hooked up with a repeat girl. the other managed to extricate himself from his and find somebody new. i had a couple of nice discussions, but only got to the issue of price once. 300r was her opening offer. i didn't counter, so she did. 200r plus 50r taxi. i asked her if she commuted to rio.
i figured i could have gotten her down to 200r all-in easily enough, then i considered her 40-50r drink and the fact that i had a perfect buzz going and wanted to mess around some more. i told her another time.

once alone, i left for "deep augusta." first stop maison. lots of girls and guys this night. i think there were even a few gringos. the girls here are a little weird. they are either overly aggressive or too passive. they won't even make eye contact sometimes. i think when the shy ones see how quickly i blow-off the aggressive ones, they just give up.

i chose a little blond spinner. we'd talked earlier, and now i sat down next to her. she immediately got affectionate and we got all of the pleasantries out of the way. at one point, she got up to get a glass of water, and an aggressive girl from earlier sat down. apparently, the little blond didn't like this, and left. i tried to make friendly gestures to her twice more, but she sort of smiled at me pathetically. so, i left. the let me bring in my 2r beer from the gas station, then i bought one 7r beer there. oh, yes, and there was both a lesbian and a straight sex show while i was there. it was hard to tell the difference, because one of the lesbians very closely approximated a man.

next stop, night house. this has become my favorite dive. there were 3-4 very pretty girls, including 2 stunners. they have the same attitude in there as maison, except there are very few aggressive ones. that is a good thing, i've decided.

eventually, i sat next to a beautiful 24-year old girl with straight, soft blond hair. her smile and her eyes were unreal. while slow to be affectionate, i could sense that she was warming up to the idea of "us." apparently, i'm muy simpatico.

i weighed the idea of an on-site versus the take-out option. the house wanted 75 for takeout, and she (laura) wanted 150. on-site, i thought it was 110 total, but actually 101r. i figured i owed it to everyone here to try out the on-site facilities and report back.

for 2r extra, i got the suite, which means there is a shower in the room. it was rather austere, but on the clean side of disgusting. the bed was the ubiquitous low-grade plastic, but at least they gave her a sheet to put over top. note to management: a fitted one might be better.

the experience was awesome. she started slowly but got so into dfk. her bbbj was superior, and she went crazy over daty. the bell came a little early, but there seemed to be no pressure to leave.

so, a great day. i spent $100 us including lunch, dinner, eu y elas recon, millennium tour, kilt, verguero, maison and night house. in a few minutes, i'm off to clinica kin, then to rio several times next month. maybe i'll go to help for its last night on copa?

ft

Bubba Boy
04-28-06, 17:39
Ft,

what time did you go to the low end clubs ar Rua Augusta? What time do these places generally have the best numbers?

Sperto
04-28-06, 17:42
Next stop, Night House. This has become my favorite dive... On-site, I thought it was 110 total, but actually 101R.
FT
FT, Night House is one of my favourites on Rua Augusta. Last year the on-site price was room R$ 20 and girl R$ 40, total R$ 60. Seems like they raised the price a lot.

Latitude Cruz
04-28-06, 20:17
Can someone tell me if ellas serves Sao Paolo or Rio? The web site doesn't say and I can't identify the city code in the various phone numbers for the various ladies.

Any help is greatly appreciated!

LC

Sui Generis
04-28-06, 20:29
Can someone tell me if ellas serves Sao Paolo or Rio? The web site doesn't say and I can't identify the city code in the various phone numbers for the various ladies.

Any help is greatly appreciated!

LC


As showned by the area code, 011, Ellass is definitely a São Paulo site.

http://www.ellass.com.br/

Admin
04-28-06, 22:08
Greetings everyone,

In recognition of his many great contributions to the Forum, I have given Comgo his own thread titled "Comgo in Brazil".

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2448

Those of you who wish to join him in the discussions in his new thread are welcome to do so.

Thanks,

Jackson

Carrib
04-29-06, 00:31
"Carrib, I have to ask you this - do you think it is fair that I should put up with Comgo's insults?"

No-you do not..Jackson took care of the problem!...LOL...Again GK I look forward to your informative posts.

Bandy
04-29-06, 18:43
I did not take part in the recent discussions regarding GK vs Comgo. Actually, I wrote a long summation, but later on decided not to post since I was going to see Jackson very soon.

Yesterday, I arrived in Buenos Aires and met Jackson. After some time, I brought the issue of Comgo. I said that he has to ban him. Jackson started laughing. "Say no more Bandy, I just did". Characters like Comgo can not live without being argumentative. They have ruined all the forums. Hope this thread will be better now.

Bandy

Genghis Khan
04-29-06, 21:31
It seems like things turned out like I hoped for. I will naturally continue posting from my trip.

BTW, thanks for all the support received on e-mail.

GK

RCA Knight
04-29-06, 23:29
This time in Sao Paulo, I discovered some really low end plays. My cousin's local friend took us to these local brothel houses. There are many near Ipiranga and Mooca areas. We checked out quite a few houses and actually there are some hidden gems.

These are very normal private houses with girls living and working there. Some houses have about 10 or more girls and some have very few. We settled on one I think it's in Mooca that has several young cuties.

They have rooms that the girls actually live there. I got a good deal. I found a young 20 years old cutie from Pernambuco. She said she just came to SP for 1 month, still very fresh. My cousin had an older girl of 27 yaers old but still quite sexy with big tits.

It's really economy screw. I think these places only get local customers. My girl said she never had a foreigner before. I only paid 60 reais for this cutie. Gave her another 20 for hard work she did. Some lesser nice girls cost even cheaper something like 50 reais or less.

I was surprised that the local brothel houses do have some nice cuties. But to get to them need a local friend to take you, and thats the only trouble. My cousin's friend also told us there are lots of brothel houses in the suburbs like San Bernardo do Campo, Santana, Santo Andre ect and have nice young cuties for about 50 reais and less.

Starfe
04-29-06, 23:49
Come over to the Comgo thread.

It's where its happening. Free giveaways in the next few weeks so stay up on current posting to win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

starfe

Sperto
04-30-06, 00:03
This time in Sao Paulo, I discovered some really low end plays. My cousin's local friend took us to these local brothel houses. There are many near Ipiranga and Mooca areas. We checked out quite a few houses and actually there are some hidden gems.

Do you have any addresses?

Admin
04-30-06, 04:32
Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

Let's get back to the subject.

Thank You,

Jackson

J Wadd
04-30-06, 04:35
RCA Knight:

Thanks for the good intel. Do you by chance remember names, streets or addresses? I know these type of low-end places are off the map, and remembering them can be tough. Anything would be a help -- I love those fresh little catches from the country!

Happy hunting,
JWadd

Full Throttle
04-30-06, 18:41
Ft,

what time did you go to the low end clubs ar Rua Augusta? What time do these places generally have the best numbers?

Hi BB,

My perception is after midnight, or perhaps 12:30. However, I'd rather get there a tad early than a tad late as it takes a while to determine who the highest quality girls are, and the guys begin to fill the places up after 1-2 A.M. Be using your guide a lot (again) in May. Need to add Bononias to the terma list.

ft

Bubba Boy
04-30-06, 20:57
Thanks FT, I am in Rio now, been here for 2 months. I am never sure if Boronia is open or closed, it has definitely been closed down a few times. What is the current status?

RCA Knight
05-01-06, 18:30
Quote J Wadd: Thanks for the good intel. Do you by chance remember names, streets or addresses? I know these type of low-end places are off the map, and remembering them can be tough. Anything would be a help -- I love those fresh little catches from the country!



I am sure these brothels are all over the city and all over Brasil, especially in blue collar areas. Actually I am in Thailand now and I can only give some general discriptions. On that day, the Brasilian friend took us around the areas of called Ipiranga and Mooca. We checked out quite a few houses about 7 or so. Some of them are quite close to the huge monument but they are all in residential streets and not far from each others. But I have no ideas the street name or numbers.

We later found a house with some young cuties in area called Mooca. I just remember it was in a residential street and I think not far from the Tatuape station. I don't recall any of these houses have any signs so I think only the locals would know. And they will look at you at the intercom or door hole before they open the door and let you in.

I only recommend foreigners to go with a local person. First foriegners will have hard time to find them and second these places speak zero English and may have problems in communication if you don't know any Brasilian language. And also they always talk to you in the intercom and look before they open the door so if you are completely stranger with very weird Portuguese or no Portuguese, they may not open the door. Sorry I have no ideas about the exact addresses of these places because they are all ordinary houses in the residentail streets. I was completely lost too in these particular parts of town.

Full Throttle
05-02-06, 14:35
FT, Night House is one of my favourites on Rua Augusta. Last year the on-site price was room R$ 20 and girl R$ 40, total R$ 60. Seems like they raised the price a lot.

I don't think the girls are a set price. The rooms were either 20 or 22, depending if you wanted a shower or not. I think I paid her 70.

Besides the ultimate value, Deep Augusta is just fun. If you run into an annoying mosquito girl in one place, you simply leave. You can bring your beer with you.

BTW, most places want to charge you $10 up front which covers 2 beers. I just ask them to come in for 1 beer. NEVER had them balk.

FT

Genghis Khan
05-03-06, 12:46
I woke up at around 10 by the phone ringing. It was Vatel69 calling. He was curious how Miss D had been. I told him that I thought she was great and that I was pleased. Vatel69 then asked me to come over to his apartment around 11:30. Ramrod and the girl he had been friendly with during yesterday afternoons visit to W, would arrive around that time too. We would then call Lais who I met at W last night and we would all go to lunch.

I showered, shaved and got dressed and since I had nothing else to do that morning - I walked over to Vatel69's apartment and arrived about half an hour earlier than planned.

Vatel69 and I discussed a few details about my date with Miss M the next day (Wednesday). She had told Madame G that she would only be available for a daytime meeting even though we had originally planned and agreed on an all night date. She cut the price down by 1/4.

My date this night was with Miss B. She is a tall, blonde quite famous girl in Brazil. She is a little more voluptuous than the other women I had been seeing so far on this trip. She is apparently a bit more energetic and wild in bed than the others. This was a good thing because I was getting a bit tired and heavily jetlagged by this time and a bit afraid that it could affect my own performance. I needed someone who really got me turned on.

Around 11 Ramrod turned up and shortly after that, his tall morena from W arrived too. We then called Lais, but she didn't answer her phone. We decided to be a bit more patient and discussed where to have lunch while waiting for another try phoning Lais. We decided on going to a French restaurant called La Brasserie Erick Jacquin. The chef Erick Jacquin used to be the chef at Le Coq Hardy before he left that restaurant and became the chef at Cafe Antique. About a year ago he left that restaurant too and opened his own restaurant. All the restaurants he has been working at so far have been among the best in Sao Paulo. His new restaurant is a bit more low key and less pricey, but the food is supposed to on the same level. The morena Ramrod had invited (I don't remember her name) thought Vatel69 should have some company for lunch too. She called her friend Bruna who normally works at Cafe Photo to come over as Vatel69's company for lunch.

About 15 minutes later a tall, slim morena with long curly hair, a nice smile and really nice eyes showed up. She was quite a bit better looking than both Lais and Ramrod's girl. Vatel69 called Lais again and this time she answered. She was still in bed. She told Vatel69 that she would be at his apartment in about half an hour. One hour passed and no sign of Lais and no phone calls to tell us she was late. We decided to go to the restaurant without her and leave a message for her with the security guard in the building that she should go directly to the restaurant to meet us there. She never showed up though.

We took a taxi to La Brasserie Erick Jacquin. The restaurant is really nice and the prices were not really that bad although I don't remember exactly how much we paid. I had the Foie Gras as a starter and a special Brazilian fish as the main course. I ordered a bottle of wine, but the girls wanted Caipirinhas. Vatel69 showed no interest in Bruna so I asked him if he would mind if I tried my luck with her since it was obvious by this point that Lais would not show up. Vatel69 didn't mind. I wasn't going to do the same mistake as two days ago and was a bit careful about my alcohol consumption. Bruna started feeling me up under the table and we had to tell her to calm down because some other guests inside the restaurant were showing signs of not appreciating what happened. This kind of reminds me of a visit to the Japanese restaurant Shintori back in January, when I had brought two girls from W.E. and the waiter had to find a table for us in a separate room because the girls was all over me during dinner. I planned on not bringing up the subject of taking Bruna with me to the hotel. I assumed that if she thought I might not take her, she would lower her price. When we had paid the bill and went out of the restaurant to wait for a taxi, she asked Vatel69 if I was willing to take her to the hotel for four hours for R$500. I told her that it was too much but I would go along with R$400. She accepted this and we took a taxi with Vatel69 while Ramrod and his girl took a separate taxi. We dropped Vatel69 off at his apartment before going to the hotel.

Bruna was a real wild cat. The attitude shown at the restaurant continued in the bedroom. We first had one round of great sex. Everything was on the menu - BBBJ and anal, but I didn't do anal because I am not a big fan. After sex we talked for a while and she turned out to be a really nice girl. She understood some English but we had to use my dictionary too. Vatel69 called me about two hours after we arrived at the hotel and asked me if it was a convenient time to talk. He didn't interrupt anything so I had no objections. Madame G had called and wanted a confirmation on my girl for tomorrow (Miss M) for daytime instead of nighttime as originally planned. Vatel69 was on the phone with Madame G on his cell phone while talking to me and Madame G was on her cell phone with Miss M while talking to Vatel69 on her other phone. Miss M had locked herself into her bathroom while talking to Madame G to get away from her boyfriend. Some situation with her boyfriend had apparently made it impossible for Miss M to go through with an all night date. While all of this was happening Bruna was naked beside me on the bed and seemed a little bored by our conversation which I don't think she understood a word of. So Bruna started giving my head while I was on the phone with Vatel69. I was about to accept Miss M for a daytime date but wanted a lower fee than Madame G offered, but Bruna's BBBJ made it impossible for me to have a clear head in the negotiations. In the end I had to tell Vatel69 what was going on and that I would agree to a daytime date with Miss M tomorrow but I needed to call him back to agree on a fee. He also told me to come by his apartment with Bruna after we were finished because he wanted to talk to her.

After sex Bruna and I took a taxi to Vatel69's apartment again. Apparently Bruna wanted to do some plastic surgery and wanted some opinions from Vatel69. I wanted to set up an all night date with Bruna on Friday because I had already cancelled with girls from the madams on the last two days of my trip. I cancelled Miss V because I got some negative feedback on her from Miss F and Miss A had to cancel too because she was sent to the hospital for some reason. So now I had the last two nights of this trip available. I wanted to do a repeat with Miss F on Thursday, so that left Friday night available for Bruna. Vatel69 set up the date with Bruna and she left his apartment. Later Vatel69 called Miss F and set up the date with her for Thursday as well. Vatel69 then called Madame G and confirmed the appointment with Miss M tomorrow for a lower price than she originally wanted. We were invited to a party at W tomorrow evening, so since Miss M wouldn't be my date that night I didn't set up a new date with someone else. I wanted to go to that party and Ramrod had told Vatel69 that he wanted to go too.

Vatel69 and I decided not to go to dinner this night. The lunch had been enough food. I had a reservation at the Japanese restaurant Kinu. A new chef called Adriano Kanashiro had recently started working there and I really wanted to try out some of his food, but I couldn't manage after the heavy lunch.

A friend of Vatel69 came over along with Cacau and the other morena sitting beside me at W yesterday afternoon. We shared a few drinks and relaxed waiting for Miss B to show up. She was supposed to show up at Vatel69's apartment with a photographer from a major gentlemen’s magazine in Brazil first and then the photographer would drive Miss B and me to my hotel.

When Miss B finally appeared, the others present in the room turned silent for a short while - even the girls. Cacau even said that she was almost stunned by Miss B's appearance - and she was indeed stunning to behold with one minor (major) flaw - her legs were not shaved! I guess this is a Brazilian thing, but I really prefer shaved legs as any European or America would probably be used to. She apparently had no underwear on but we were not able to see anything we shouldn't have below her low cut dress. She approached me and kissed me on the chin before telling me that Miss F had highly recommended me (whatever that means).

The photographer took Miss B and me back to my hotel and agreed to call Miss B before picking her at 08:00 the next morning. When Miss B and I came up to my room she lifted her dress up to show me she had no underwear on. Then she wanted to know if I had any whisky and Red Bull. This is what I usually drink too besides Caipirinhas and I had been warned prior to our date that Miss B would probably want to drink that. So I had stocked up on Red Bull and still had quite a bit left on my bottle of Red Label.

We had a couple of drinks and got to know each other a little bit before we went to the shower separately. When I returned from the shower, she was naked on the bed and just motioned me to come over. She removed my towel and started giving me head with me standing beside the bed while she was lying in it. She knew how to do a real deep throat - everything was gone. When I went down on her, she became so wet that I needed to put my towel beneath her. After my DATY she wanted to take a break.

We managed quite well with just a little use of the dictionary. She told me that she was a mix between black and Portuguese. She had the body of a black woman but with blonde, hair, white skin and blue eyes.

We had sex several times that night. There was not much time for sleep and we were still going at it when Miss B's cell phone rang and her driver was ready to pick her up. Before she left, I told her that I definitely wanted to see her again when I returned to Sao Paulo in August.

She was probably the best sexual performer on this trip and her BBBJ was the best I have ever had. Overall I would rate her between Miss F and Miss D. I think she is not quite up to the level of Miss D because of Miss D's even better looks.

GK

Bubba Boy
05-07-06, 15:23
Can someone let me know what the current entrance price is for Cafe Photo?

Genghis Khan
05-07-06, 17:56
Can someone let me know what the current entrance price is for Cafe Photo?

R$190

GK

Starfe
05-07-06, 22:33
Where can i get some video footage on dvd of the city of sao paulo? Does the dish network have any tv stations from the sao paulo area.

thanks

Add 20 million more cars

http://www.travelago.com/generalcity.asp?c_id=171100&country_id=BRA&r_id=2

Jose Lima
05-07-06, 23:15
Anyone going to be in SP next the week of the 14th? I'm going do with a bunch of oldtimers and am tryin to find someone with bit more energy and apetite for the GP scene. PM me

Vatel69
05-08-06, 01:52
Can someone let me know what the current entrance price is for Cafe Photo?

190,00 reais and it includes 4 drinks.

SkmSteve
05-09-06, 08:14
Monday 3d April..first night in SP.

Monday night I decided to visit an old haunt of mine. This place has small rooms /cubicles(R$50), but I normally come here for takeout.
I ended up taking out a young lady called Ana. She cost me R$150 for 3 hours. I gave her R$50 for a tip for the photos we made. When she saw my camera she decided to model for me. She was great fun, and will look her up next time I am in tow.

Phone: 258 7207
http://www.kiltshows.com.br


Entrance cost R$ 30,00 with one drink at the bar

Sitting at a table costs x/tra: R$ 10 for a person Paying to one To take a girl out you need to buy one drink for the girl
Values of programs: it has of everything

The club has 3 floors:
First - Bar, second, rest rooms, bar, and pool tables. Third floor,

SkmSteve
05-09-06, 08:39
Sorry here are some photos for Ana from Kilt.
Tried sending video, but too big.
steve

SkmSteve
05-09-06, 08:55
Tuesday 4th April
Went to Bahamas one the 4th April. Entrance was of R& 97,00. Rooms cost R$50. Girls were anything from R$ 200 to 400 depending upon your negotiation skills. Sorry the only photo I have here is from behind.

Address: R. of the Chanés, 571 - Moema
Telephone: (11) 5542-2748
http://www.cyberbahamas.com.br

SkmSteve
05-09-06, 09:02
Wednesday 5th april

This night I choose to go to Café millennium. It’s a place I had been trying to get to in a while, and with hindsight it was a good decision.
The entrance with one free drink was R$70

I ended up choosing two girls. I went with one first for an hour, in a nice room with a Jacuzzi, Afterward, I came down, found another girl who was dancing on the stage, we hit it off, made a deal, and went with for round two. In both case’s had to negotiate a fee with the girl. I ended up paying the one r$150, and the other R$200 .The rooms were R$70 for which I paid on my credit card on the way out. Up until I visited this place I was a Bahamas fan, but all I can say is I was convert within two minutes of walking into this club. The atmosphere was more fun, there seemed to be a younger crowd, wall-to-wall women, and would say that 80% where very attractive indeed

I ended up getting the numbers of the girls, and met them outside of the club a few days later.

Millenium coffee
Street Colonel Diogo, 1199 - Jd. of the Glory (Ipiranga)
Tel: (11) 6166-2700
Site: http://www.cafemillenium.com.br

Full Throttle
05-10-06, 05:12
Maybe they changed it after you were there and before I was there, but the price was 80 (or 90, but I think 80), and it included 6 beers or 3 whiskeys. That was a Thursday night around the 27th of April, I think.

Agree with your sentiments.

FT

Squib Boy
05-10-06, 08:06
I recently completed my first visit to SP, and since I don't speak Portugese I enlisted the services of Fernando "Sampa Guide". Let me tell you, his knowledge and experience was invaluable to me, and as a first timer and non-native speaker I don't think I could have mongered without him. He took me out on 2 separate nights, both time to Cafe Millenium. He felt that Millenium would be the best choice for me, mainly because of the variety of girls (I tend to like Brunettes and he thought Bahamas was too blonde-heavy) plus the fact that he has a deal going with Millenium where they don't charge an entry fee for him. In fact, he seems to be somewhat of a minor celebrity there, as all the workers and many of the girls seem to know him well. Anyway, on the 1st night he helped me pick out and negotiate with a girl, and we did the standard one-hour thing in one of their rented rooms. I won't go into details, but I came out thoroughly satisfied. The 2nd night I decided I wanted to take a girl back to my hotel for the night, and once again Sampa Guide came through and negotiated a great price both with the girl as well as with the Cafe management in order to "release" for the night. Again, I won't go into details, but this was one of my all time best mind-blowing, sex-filled nights that I can recall, and the girl ended up staying in my room until nearly noon the next day! I was also a bit nervous about bringing her in/taking her out of the hotel, but this ended up being no big deal. The hotel management (I stayed at the Mercure Ibirapuera) made her show her id when she came to the hotel, and they charged me a very nominal "guest fee". No smirks or gestures from them at all. I guess this is the way it should be, not like here in the uptight US :-)

All in all I had a great time, and I can highly recommend the services of Sampa Guide. SP is now one of my favorite mongering cities, right up there with Macau, and I hope to be back soon!

Bubba Boy
05-10-06, 14:02
skmsteve posts were a good effort but lacked a little accuracy in the prices he quoted. I did not necessarily want to crticise his posts because people that take the time and effort to share their experiences should be ecnouraged. However

Café Millineum

Prices: May, 06
Entrance/Consumption R90. Beers are R15. Can count food towards this.
Room R70. (cannot count this towards the consumption).
Garota R150-R200. (Need to negotiate: R150 is absolute minimum, R200 max)

Bahamas

Prices: April, 06
Entrance R121 (No drinks included, beers are R18)
Room R99
Garota R200-R300 (Need to negotiate: R200 is absolute minimum, R300- R350 max, although some girls, namely the superstars will try and get a lot more.)
Open: Mon-Sunday from 16:00 until late (5am ish) , one of the good Sunday options in Sampa.
Taxi from Republica Metro Station: R30 (May 06), virtually next to the local airport Congonhas.

Kilt

Entrance is R35, then beers are R20 there after.

I have just been in Sampa, have notes will post something soon.

Bandy
05-10-06, 16:51
Bubba Boy,

You are absolutely right. Where did skmsteve got all these prices? I also listed all the prices in my April reports and that clearly match with yours.

As I mentioned in my report (#148), Kilt will charge you 10 R extra for entrance, if you opt for a table instead of the bar. They also add 10 % service charge on your total bill.

Bandy

Sperto
05-10-06, 16:59
Kilt
Entrance is R35, then beers are R20 there after.
R$ 20 for a beer! Outrageous! You can get laid for R$ 20. :)

Bubba Boy
05-10-06, 17:18
Thats why Brasilian guys and cheap gringo's like me nurse their beers all night.

Full Throttle
05-11-06, 00:43
Thought I was right on the Millineum price...

Squib Boy,

Thanks for posting. You don't need to kiss and tell completely, but a little bit of information would be helpful, particularly the price you paid for "release," as you put it. Words and phrases like "minimal," "nominal," and a great price," are completely meaningless when you have people like me, Bubba Boy and GK on such different wave lengths!

Also, there are plenty of brunettes at Bahamas.

Did anyone use the pool area the nights you were there? That would be a fun diversion if so.

FT

Squib Boy
05-11-06, 08:03
Re: pricing, I think I paid $150R for the standard one-hour session with the girl (can't remember her name), and I know that Sampa Guide also negotiated for a slightly lower room rate. The all-nighter was with a girl named Debra, and she only asked $300R. She was only 2 weeks on the job at the time, so by now I'm sure she's asking for a bit more. Since she stayed in my room for close to 10 hrs. in total, plus I was blown away by her services, I gave her $200 USD...she was thrilled.

Full Throttle
05-11-06, 14:12
...I gave her $200 USD...she was thrilled.

I bet she was. Did Sampa Guide recommend you pay her that??

Thanks for the quick reply. Our understanding was that the club got an exit fee in the neighborhood of 270R. Is that close to what you paid?

FT

SkmSteve
05-11-06, 17:11
Guys,

The prices were what they were. I was with a shipper of mine. He knew some people there. I dont know if that made a differance. IN any event i stand by my report.

Steve

Squib Boy
05-11-06, 18:03
I bet she was. Did Sampa Guide recommend you pay her that??

Thanks for the quick reply. Our understanding was that the club got an exit fee in the neighborhood of 270R. Is that close to what you paid?

FT

Sampa Guide did not make any recommendations on tipping; the only thing he asked was that I give her $20R for taxi fare afterwards. I gave her the generous tip mainly on the quality of her performance and her willingness to stay however long I wanted; in fact, she would have even stayed past noon but I had other things to do that day, like head home :-) It's not too often you find somebody relatively new and "fresh", and who provides great service. For a lot of women, once they do this for awhile they become a bit tainted and their service and enthusiasm wanes over time. The other reason for the nice tip was because I didn't have much local currency on me at the time, and all I had were hundred dollar bills!

Regarding the exit fee, I just checked my credit card statement and it looks like I paid the club $300R in total, including the admission/consumption fee. I recall Sampa Guide negotiating with the club on this, because I don't think we had ordered much food/drinks that evening.

Sampa Guide
05-12-06, 02:34
I recently completed my first visit to SP, and since I don't speak Portugese I enlisted the services of Fernando "Sampa Guide". (...)

All in all I had a great time, and I can highly recommend the services of Sampa Guide.

Hello Squib Boy, thank you very much for using my services and I am happy that you enjoyed your trip here in São Paulo.

For those who seek my help here in São Paulo, please look at my post at http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=383988&postcount=575

You can send me a PM as well.

Regards,

Genghis Khan
05-12-06, 10:37
skmsteve posts were a good effort but lacked a little accuracy in the prices he quoted. I did not necessarily want to crticise his posts because people that take the time and effort to share their experiences should be ecnouraged. However

Café Millineum

Prices: May, 06
Entrance/Consumption R90. Beers are R15. Can count food towards this.
Room R70. (cannot count this towards the consumption).
Garota R150-R200. (Need to negotiate: R150 is absolute minimum, R200 max)

Bahamas

Prices: April, 06
Entrance R121 (No drinks included, beers are R18)
Room R99
Garota R200-R300 (Need to negotiate: R200 is absolute minimum, R300- R350 max, although some girls, namely the superstars will try and get a lot more.)
Open: Mon-Sunday from 16:00 until late (5am ish) , one of the good Sunday options in Sampa.
Taxi from Republica Metro Station: R30 (May 06), virtually next to the local airport Congonhas.

Kilt

Entrance is R35, then beers are R20 there after.

I have just been in Sampa, have notes will post something soon.

Bubba Boy,

Bahamas opens much earlier - don't know the exact hour, but I think it is around noon.

GK

Sampa Guide
05-12-06, 17:45
Bubba Boy,

Bahamas opens much earlier - don't know the exact hour, but I think it is around noon.

GK

Hi GK,

Opens at Mid-day

Bubba Boy
05-13-06, 21:14
I am sure most people that watch CNN or BBCnews will know that Sao Paulo has had some serious events overnight. Approximately 20 police were killed by gangs in what looks like a well planned criminal operation. This is serious even for a county used to violence, the scale of the killings has shocked the locals. The Police retaliation over the next few weeks will make the city a nervous place to be. Apparently the prisons are starting to riot.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4768491.stm

Pelicano
05-15-06, 17:33
According to Reuters headline on the Yahoo Brasil web page, url]http://br.news.yahoo.com/060515/5/14q55.html[/url]
In Sao Paulo capital and interior, from Sunday thru Monday morning 42 buses were burned, 10 banks were destroyed and 74 persons were killed. Mostly Police officers and criminals, but also a few civilians.

Be very carefull in SP capital and interior of the state and observant in other major cities, since this activity could spread. Plan on avoiding areas under attack; ie buses and banks and have a plan for getting out of any problem area.

Stay Safe: pelicano

Sampa Guide
05-15-06, 22:53
I've never seen São Paulo like this since Sep 11.
Most of the panic is caused by hoaxes, the attacks are concentrated in police depts., most of them in the outer regions of SP.

It's dangerous, but regular people should not be so scared: only 4 non-police were killed. All the hoaxes and panic resulted in the worst traffic of the year, by far.

Most of the clubs and massage houses are closing for today, and the girls are scared too.

I'll report here when things get back to normal.

Bonhead
05-16-06, 02:18
For everyone in Sampa, please be safe. Get some beers, flick on the TV and keep out of sight until this all dies down.

Dsmurth
05-17-06, 02:36
Here today, and frequent visitor but apprehensive about trip based on news etc. Things today felt back to normal, much quieter than weekend and people were out as normal at malls etc. Several police funerals tied up traffic, sad. Dont know if Bahamas is open today but will check tomorrow. Maybe everyone just needs to go get laid and use different kind of ammo.

Sampa Guide
05-17-06, 23:37
Yesterday people were still scared, today was almost normal, and unless something new happens everything will be back as it was before.

Truant
05-22-06, 15:21
Had a nice experience with this escort last week: http://www.clubmodel.com.br/luize_muller/
I was expecting the worse as these pictures look very well airbrushed. But to my amazement, they were quite accurate. Her skin really is very soft and smoothe. Actually, the pictures do not do her justice. She has a great Flat near the corner of Alameda Santos and Leoncio de Carvalho in Jardins. It was easy to make an appointment with her in my broken Portuguese. Very easy to get through the lobby to the apartment. The whole experience was really too good to be true. She is a beautiful women for sure. Natural titties, great bunda, delicious lips, what more could you ask for. She greeted me in a bikini, with her little white dog she lives with. She had rock and roll videos playing on her TV. Her apartment, or flat, is very high end. Her blow job was uncovered and very sloppy and tight. Her hair was clean and perfumed, not matted and dirty as you find a lot of these hookers. Her pussy was very clean smelling and sweet tasting somehow, as if she added something to it. I could tell she was very clean and fresh from the expensive toiletries in her bathroom. But she only wanted R$200 for 1.5 hours. I would say good value and I am a value monger. She said she was in college for a few years in economics and law. Got tired of it. She is from Porto Alegre. I did not ask if she was willing to do outcall. Will repeat.

Truant
05-22-06, 16:25
Here is the homepage:
http://www.clubmodel.com.br/
but right now it says they are testing it, so I don't know when it will be back up.

Euro100
05-22-06, 22:48
http://www.clubmodel.com.br/luize_muller/
But she only wanted R$200 for 1.5 hours.

OUTSTANDING!!!

Truant
05-27-06, 15:08
Clinica Cherry-good value for the money--R$130 for an hour.
http://clinicacherry.com.br/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1
Web site shows hours and location--close to Congonhas Airport. Free drink. Photo books in waiting room. I tried Aline-from Santa Catarina. Book photos matched her appearance. No wait. She has good reviews on gp guia. Showered together first, then massage (OK, nothing great), then full menu of positions, BBBJ, more massage, she seemed to be into it, as other mongers wrote about on gp guia. There were 10-12 girls in the book to choose from, all seemed doable. This clinica is very close to Clinica Francebel, reviewed here many times in the past. Could make a day of it, if you had the time. Then go catch your flight five minutes away.
Truant

Full Throttle
05-28-06, 23:36
I still think Clinica Kin - www.clinicakin.com.br - I think - receives the absolute best reviews on GPGUIA, and, in my 10+ visits enjoying 8-10 girls, I can't argue.

It's a tiny bit hard to find, but only 100 yards off a major road. 120R, before and after drink, never had a cbj, most do anal, although I usually pass (only because I want to enjoy at least HALF of the hour I paid for). 150R for 4-hands.

FT

One Eyed Man
06-05-06, 05:16
I'm planning to visit São Paulo in November and have been reading the Forum, but have yet to find a good guidebook.

Is there a particularly good neighborhood in which to stay in São Paulo, that's interesting to walk around in during the day? (I've found out so far that SP is dangerous at night and no one hotel is within walking distance of the key mongering locations.)

Which hotels are hip and girl friendly? I've been reading that people like the Mercure Hotel São Paulo Jardins.

I'd appreciate any ideas and opinions.

OEM

Royalflush
06-06-06, 00:19
The Renaissance is quite nice. It's also in Jardims, and is walking distance to Kilt and Bomboa. There might be other places to visit in-between. They seemed pretty girl-friendly to me, not even asking for a guest fee or an ID when I brought someone back.

RexG
06-06-06, 06:37
I recently spent a few days (10 - 14 May) in Sao Paulo during the recent troubles there. Although I was aware of the riots, I was fortunate and experienced no problems. Here is a summary of my short stay.

Escorts:

I tried an independent (Sara Mineira) who has at least one great review on this board. After some language difficulty (my lack of Portuguese), a meeting was arranged at my hotel for 16:00 on the day of my arrival. Alas, the designated hour came and went and no Sara. At ~17:00, I called her again. This time she told me something in Portuguese that I did not understand, and this conversation was unlike the previous one where we painstaking tried to understand each other. When I hung up the phone, I honestly did not know whether or not she was coming. I hung around the hotel for about another hour, then I headed over to Millenium. I have come to the conclusion that escorts are not my cup of tea. Over my past five visits to Brazil, I have tried escorts about 6 times. Two have been great. Two have been OK, but either their appearance or their performance was not up to snuff. Two experiences, including this recent no-show, have been very bad. Having to wait alone in a hotel room for an escort to show up, especially when she doesn't show up, is a terrible way to spend a vacation. And in a city like Sao Paulo, an escort will likely be late. It's much more fun to hang out in some nightclub like Millenium where the ladies can be checked out in the flesh.

Nightclubs:

Millenium gets two thumbs up. I visited twice during this trip. The rates, as previously reported, are R$90.00 to get in, plus R$70.00 for a room. A sufficient number of drinks (for me) are included in the entry fee. The staff is courteous and there was an English speaking waiter (Fernando?) who really helped me out when I ran into communication problems. It was here that I met "Eureena" (don't really know how to spell her name), a slim, dark skinned, beauty. I believe she is the most beautiful girl that I encountered during this visit to Brazil (SP & Rio). She wore the briefest string bikini and she totally turned me on by sitting on my lap and asking me if I liked to kiss. Then she rose up slightly and adjusted her bikini bottom just inches away from my face. I was soon ready for a room. The BBBJ was pretty uninspired, but everything else was first rate. Lots of DFK and very unrushed GFE-type sex. I felt she was worth a repeat visit, so I met her again the next night.

Bahamas gets a thumbs down for this trip, although I have previously enjoyed this place. I visited on a Saturday, which is perhaps a slow night. The entry fee was R$121.00, drinks not included. A room cost R$99.00. I felt that the selection was marginal, not as good as Millenium. I did talk to one beauty, Angelina, who spoke some English. Her asking price started at R$400.00 and I countered with R$200.00. She did not seem willing to go below R$300.00, so I passed. She kept telling me that R$300.00 was her "bare minimum", and I started to get the impression that the service would be bare minimum as well. I did hook up with another gal. This girl was really small, but cute. I don't recall her name, and the service wasn't memorable. What really pissed me off about Bahamas was that this second girl ordered a Red Bull. When I paid my bill, I realized that I had been charged R$35.00 for an "energizer drink". That's outrageous, and I think I'll never return because of it.

Bomboa deserves at least one thumb up. On day #2, I picked up a copy of Sao Paulo "Magazine" from the hotel lobby, and turned to the adult section. I was interested in finding a place within walking distance of my hotel in Jardins that I could visit during the daytime. Of course, Sao Paulo is a huge place, and it's not easy to find places that are close to your hotel. Bomboa was, however, only a 20-minute walk through nice areas of Jardins and Pinheiros. So I walked there, arriving about 13:00. I was a little disappointed that they wanted the full R$150.00 entry fee (same as their nighttime charge). The room charge was R$40.00 on a Friday afternoon. (On Saturday it was R$80.00.) The entry fee did include a buffet-style lunch and, as I recall, it included some drinks. Anyhow, I grudgingly agreed to the entry fee, which seemed very high to me, and entered the club. For about an hour, I was the only customer. The night club area was closed off. Only the bar area was open. There were about 15 or 20 girls there by 14:00. This shift worked until 20:00. I ate a leisurely lunch, and it was a relaxed and pleasant time. Frequently a girl would approach and chat. Some spoke English. There was no pressure. The managers came over and chatted with me in English. They made me feel very welcome. None of this was enough to justify the R$150 entry fee, but then I spotted Solange. She is a big girl. Not at all fat. Her stomach is very flat. She just has a large frame. She has a very (Brazilian) exotic look. She is multi-lingual, very intelligent, and an extremely easy girl to talk to. Her breasts are smallish in the Brazilian tradition, but very nicely firm. Her ass is Brazilian as well. She is great in bed. When I left, she kissed me and said she would be there at 14:00 the next day if I was interested. I mulled it over, and the next day it seemed like a great idea to walk over and visit Solange again. About two blocks from Bomboa, someone called my name. I turned around and it was Solange. We Americans can be so clumsy in our social graces, and Solange gently reminded me to greet her with the appropriate kisses. I was struck by how great she looked in street clothes, and she seemed thrilled to walk with me down the crowded streets to the club, even though I am very much older than she. The sex this day was even better than the previous day. Solange was perhaps my overall favorite for this trip.

Hotels:

I stayed at Mercure Jardins again, although I was sorely tempted to try Bandy's new recommendation (Tryp Paulista) in the same area. As always, Mercure Jardins provided for a very pleasant stay, and the neighborhood is almost as pleasant.

Tips/Recommendations:

If you are flying domestically, do use Gol Airlines and Congonhas airport. This domestic airport is surprisingly user-friendly and Gol flies shiny new Boeings. The airport has interesting photo displays dating back to its construction in the early fifties. Gol offers small amenities including your choice of snacks (including peanuts). I found, somewhat unexpectedly, that the best Gol fares to Rio were from Congonhas to GIG, the international airport in Rio. The fare to the domestic aiport in Rio was R$100.00 higher (unless you chose an early or late hour to make the flight.)

Avoid taking a taxi in Sao Paulo between 17:00 and 20:00 hours. Otherwise, you'll likely sit in traffic.

Avoid complacency. This was my fifth trip to Brazil. The first four came off without a hitch. This time I picked up a rather nasty E. Coli infection just before returning home. I wasn't prepared and suffered very uncomfortable return flights to my home. A simple visit to my doctor prior to my trip, and a little more care in what I ate/drank would have saved me major discomfort. Then in the midst of my discomfort, I got searched by customs at IAD. That never happened to me before. Because I was careless, I had failed to discard the notes that I cut/paste from this board pertaining to new places/things I wanted to try in SP & Rio. The customs agent spent a long time reading this material, and it made me feel pretty uneasy. The agent also went through all my digital photos. I'm glad I didn't have any bunda shots.

Full Throttle
06-06-06, 14:38
A bit of a weird trip, huh?

I can't imagine anyone who reads this board going to Bahamas anymore. Thanks for helping to solidify that point. Exchange rate would have to go to 500X1 with no inflation.

Did you/ could you consider meeting the repeat girls elsewhere? They'd make more money and you'd spend less.

Did anyone use the pool at Milenium?

Was the customs thing random in IAD? Were they looking for something in particular? I've never heard of such a thorough inspection. Looking through the digital pictures? That's crazy. Reading through notes from the board? Their job is to prevent unlawful import of commercial merchandise, import of banned items, security threats and disease. They obviously determined your citizenship and likely discounted any security threat immediately, which makes looking through your pictures reprehensible. Information about what you planned to do in a foreign country for personal gratification is not their business or contained in their charter. I'm ticked off for you. Have you thought about contacting them and speaking with a supervisor?

FT

Bandy
06-06-06, 18:05
It is not unusual for US Customs to go through the digital pictures these days. I guess they have some set profile, depending on the country you visit and your marital status. Recently my friend was returning from Thailand and they went through the whole memory card. And he did have some naked shots. The agent told him that they are looking for child pornography.

Bandy

Fast Eddie 48
06-06-06, 22:19
It is not unusual for US Customs to go through the digital pictures these days. I guess they have some set profile, depending on the country you visit and your marital status. Recently my friend was returning from Thailand and they went through the whole memory card. And he did have some naked shots. The agent told him that they are looking for child pornography.

Bandy


to bandy

US custom will even have you turn on your lap top to check your file for porno
and other illegal material in your hard drive.



fast eddie 48

Freddy5440
06-07-06, 01:59
I hope to be going to SP in july.Can you give me more information about the nightclubs, such as, are older guys welcome or do they cater mainly for youger cliental,also the cost of the girls,you told us how much the one you did not go with but not how much for the good ones.Any information would be a great help

Truant
06-07-06, 03:51
RexG wrote: ................

Nightclubs:

Millenium gets two thumbs up. I visited twice during this trip. The rates, as previously reported, are R$90.00 to get in, plus R$70.00 for a room. A sufficient number of drinks (for me) are included in the entry fee.




I visited Millenium this week and they have raised their entrada to R$100 as of the last week of May. It will cover about 6 standard drinks or 5 for you and one for a girl, but this inflation shit is getting out of control. It wasn't four months ago the entrada was R$70. Rooms are still R$70 for an hour and the girls are asking for R$2-300 but accepting R$150 or some even R$125 (an average girl). Still a better value than Bomboa but the difference is getting smaller and smaller. www.cafemillenium.com.br Lots of nice ass in there, pole dancers, large screen videos, food if you want it, gym, and a pool nobody ever uses.
Truant