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JW Capps
05-28-07, 20:48
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]I agree with BB, this Sarah Couto is a very nice person. I know her on a personal basis (she's the best friend of two girls I know: Fernanda Moreno and Letícia Lima). Because I have a special relationship with Letícia Lima I feel uncomfortable to go out with Sarah.

Hi SG. Since you mentioned you have a special relationship with Leticia Lima, I would like to ask you advices on " special relationshp " with a working girl in SP.

As I have mentioned in my first report in the Forum about my visit of SP last week, I have encountered a few escorts in SP. Surprisely, I have found myself in front of opportunities to develop a special relationship with two of them.

For one girl, I called her to visit me (a repeating visit) after my soccer team Liverpool lost the battle of Champion League to AC Millain. In the phone conversation, she said she wanted me to drink with her in my room that night, I said OK! We previosuly agreed that she would come to my hotel at around 10: 30pm after my business dinner. I waited and waited till 1:00 am, she called the front desk of the hotel and asked the night staff to tell me she was on her way. She finally arrived at 2:30am! When I opened the door for her, I immediately joked to her that she wanted me to enjoy the night scene of " the city never sleep ". (Sao Paulo)

After a brief conversation, she picked up the phone and ordered drinks for both her and me. Then, there was a long, long conversation about her life since she was thirteen. We did not get to bed for actions till almost 4:00am. I was totally exhausted. Then, she asked me to sleep with her like " a train "! Man, honestly I did not even think about to ask her to stay overnight with me. But it was great and I got a TLN experience. She left the hotel with me at 12:00pm the next day when I have to check out to move to the Marriott at Guaruhols. Having said that, she even dropped tears in the morning when I told her I have to switch hotel that day and leave for US on Friday. I did not ask her to come with me to Guaruhols since I knew she supposed to have a doctor appointment on Thursday. But we did have a very moving phone conversation on Friday right before I headed to the airport.

Since this is my first encounter on this type of situation in the mongering scene in SP, I would like to ask your insights on what is going to happen from this point on between me and her and how I should proceed if I do decide to continue to develop the relationship with her.

I feel there is a chance that you might not want to comment in full extend on my questions. If you feel that way, I will give you my personal email address for your great comments as always so that you will feel more comfrotable that any your comemnts will not interfere your current relationship with Leticia.

Thanks as always,

Simon

JW Capps
05-28-07, 21:29
to the members of this great forum.

i landed on saturday may 26 at newark liberty which marked the end of my field trip to sp from may 20 to may 25. the trip has a mix purpose of work and fun. funs occupied pre-dominately thsi time. as a new member of this forum, i have benefited from the infromation and greta reports contributed by many long-time members and reguialr members. i feel that i owe the forum a lot if i do not make my onwn contribution when the right time comes.

actually, i have made two posts during my stay in sp last week. to sum my whole trip up, i would like to contribut the followings:

day 1. arriving gru after the 9-hour flight by continental from newark, i met my friend at the gate. he is my best friend in a us comapny i used to work for in guaruhols. before we left for the parking lot, i went to the bradesco window to exchange are$. the rate was terrible. are$1. 85/us$ but i negotiated with the girl to get it are$1. 9/$. i exchanged for $1, 000. then i had a quick breakfast with my friend in a nice neighbour at jardins area where my hotel is located. after that, i stopped by his newly purchased and renovated apartment and met her girlfriend. my next stop is the hotel and i wanted to check in by 12:00pm and started my adventure as early as possible.

i stayed in quality jardins on av. campinas. the hotel looks old and are under a project of " face lift ". i pay are$203 for a luxo apartment. the room is decent with a king size bed, a working desk and free high-speed internet access. the reason why i selected this hotel is its location to the area of moema, where many escorts have their flats there. it turns out my strategy working quite well.

i quickly settled down and then turned on my computer to do my research. i know i will only call english-speaking escorts since i speak none portuguese. i simply went to websites such as clubmodel, sexstream, erosguide etc. to single out who " claim " to speak english. at the end, i came up a list of 15 girls from different websites. next, it is the phone interview process. i think i must spend some money on making lots of calls. please pay attention here. most of the working girls use list their cell phones on the site, you have to pay roaming charges (i guess) when you call from a land line. no matter what, that was what i had done in my hotel room. my questions are simply. what is your name, how old are you, how much do you charge and how far are you from jardins. if they survided my questions, they are on my follow-up list!

i do not have a hig expectation on sunday in sp. i know from my previous business trips to sp that the mongering scence is dead on sunday. it is a typical family date for brazilains. that is ok. i just wanted to tried my luck. i did get a few girls on the phone and i even set up an apponintment at 8:00pm with one girl.

the girl came on time. following by a quick section, i knew i have to call for a day. she understood a little english and somehow slipped through the interview process. after the first round, she told me she needed to go home to take care of her baby. that was bs to me and really runined my interest on a 2nd round with her. i left her out the door right away!

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JW Capps
05-28-07, 22:02
Day 2 ) - After a good night sleep, I felt I was going to have a great start on Monday. My strategy is to make calls to the girls in the morning and then lock in the appointments for the day. One comment I like to make here is to make the calls to the girls in the mornign by 12:00am because that will increase the odd of your success. The logic I think is that she should have been booked in full by either 12:00 pm or early afternnon if she is a good quality one in the field. This works even more on those girls who speak decent english. On the other hand, do not make calls before 10:00 am because most of the girls who work till late night are still in beds. My strategy works. I hit three targtes on my first trial of the day. I booked a girl called Fernanda at 12:00pm and then Luize at 4:00pm. If you have read my previous report on this Forum, I have made comments on my encounters with these two girls. Overall, I had a great time. Actually, these two girls had become my favorites during my trip and even allowed me to receive the sort of GFE towards the second half of my stay !!! Stay tune for my experiences.

3) Day 3 - I booked a girl called " Elktra " on Monday for a section at 12:00 pm on Tuesday. She and the other two girls I met on Monday are all listed on Clubmodel website. Although there is a bit photopolishing on the web, the real persons are still very clsoe to the photos. The site is reliable. Elktra is also one of the girls highly recommended on GPGuia.net ( a local Brazilain Forum about GPs ). I confirmed the appointment on 11:00am with her. She arrived on time. She is a brunette and beautiful with a good body. We had a great section. One interesting things to mention here is that she asked me whether I have condons before she went for shower. Of course, my answer is yes and I have a full box !! Later, I found out from our conversation that she came to see me when she was on a lunch break. She works as a marketing person for an internet company during the days. That is probaly why she did not have a condons in her handbag !!!! Overall, I had a good section with her. One thing I did have a problem or not used to is her stingy smell from her bottom ! After a brief foreplay, I can felt her bottom was so f___king wet and smelly. That became even more obvious when I rode her from her back. After she left, I even had to call the front desk to ask for changing my bed sheet again - I am afraid my second to come will feel uncomfortable when she experience the smell. What a story !!!

One more ineresting point to share about Elktra is : she used to have a boyfriend , a rich one who owned a farm. They dated for seven years and then her boyfriend died in a private plane crash. Since then she was hestitate to have a new one ( would you believe that ). Anyway, I certainly hope some of our senior members ( in particular those master portuguese well ) can crack this gold mine or warm her " cold " heart. Please share your experience if you do so.

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Almotu
05-29-07, 01:52
Looking for fun . . . other newbies. I think you have to sign up for the subscription before anyone can send you Private Messages. Exchanging PMs is the best way to meet up with like minded travellers when in town.

I am by no means an expert on Sao Paulo but I can have a good time on a shoe string. Send me an e-mail once you are all set up.

I arrived today (Monday - May 28) Just wanted to report in on some basic details on the afternoons activities. I went to two cambios to exchange USDs 1) in Shopping Paulista - 1 level down from street level $1usd=R$1.90! then I went to 2) my favorite cambio in the office mall across from the MASP museum (its on the side of the tree park (Trianon) on Paulista) ASTOR cambio is on street level immediately on the right side once you enter this office mall. they gave $R1.93. The dollar continues to suck!

I wanted to session at the famous Clinica Kin. I followed Full Throttle's advice and got on the "Term Sto Amaro" bound 669A bus on Av Paulista. There are two convenient bus stop clusters to get on this bus. One is right in front of the Trianon park and the other is the bus stops right after the Citibank. The bus turns off Av Paulista at Brigadeiro so this is the last stop on Paulista to get on. After about 40-45mins, you will be on Saint Amaro and should get off before it crosses Av Roque Petroni Jr. (this is major thoroughfare) Once you get off, cross Av Roque Petroni and turn right . The first little street you come to will be Dr Jose Marques da Cruz, turn into this street about 4 blocks is Clinica Kin (#235).

I arrived at about 5:45pm and was introduced to about 7/8 girls. Each girl came out to the reception area and gave me a little kiss and told me their name. The damage is $R120 for an hour session. I liked several of them and picked Juliana. She just got her photos in their book, so she is not on the website yet. I liked her, she was cute. She was a receptive partner but not a firecracker. BBBJ and kissing which I like. I will definitely return to try out some of the others in the lineup that caught my eye . . . Larissa, Jackeline, Dani, Mel and Marina's fotos look promising as well.

One downside about this busy Clinica as I observed, not five minutes after I finished with Juliana she was back in the reception area doing the meet and greet with new clients. Bingo, she got picked again and off she went. Don't get me wrong, I certainly did not wear her out . . . I am a lightweight. But I figure she must get pretty tired and desensitized by the whole ordeal soon if they are worked that hard. (Maybe her choice?) Once I used to be friendly with a few girls that worked at Antares, and they told me they get a half hour break (sometimes longer) to regroup after a session unless there were absolutely no girls available for a waiting client. Kin had a ready stable.

Mahal
05-29-07, 15:15
First time at Kilt, I liked the setting, a bar with girls hanging around and one on a swing. They do not approach you unless invited, as seems to be the case at the other clubs I have been to in SP. There is an actual sex show involving a couple engaging into sex acts on stage, I was told Kilt is the only place on Nestor Pestana that has that kind of show.

Price for a toltal of 5 drinks including 2 for the girl and the entrance fee was about R130, the only thing that bothered me is that the waiter asked for a tip, which is unusual.

Paula smiled at me and I invited her for a drink. Very sweet girl who usually works at Cafe Foto where she explained prices are much higher. We agreed on R400 for TLN and she did stay until I had to kick her out to go to work in the AM. Overall very friendly provider with a great GFE attitude. Not a sex queen but still a good experience.

Mahal
05-29-07, 15:41
Cafe Gauguin is very convenient for anyone staying at the Hilton, Gran Estanplaza or WTC hotels since it is about a 2 minute walk from the Hilton and directly across the street from the Gran Estanplaza, which by the way appears to be a very nice hotel for less than half the price of the Hilton.

I walked to CG at about midnight on Monday night. Entrance fee of R$120 was discounted to R$80 by the girl at the door, without even asking, including 2 drinks. Once inside it is like a disco with a stage and a strip show. But the ratio of girls to customers was fantastic, I counted 20 girls and 4 customers. I had at least 7 girls competing for my attention at all times.

Picked Isadora, a Britney Spears look alike, but with hair. I picked her because of her sexy dancing in a short red dress and hot looks. She did not speak English and I do not speak Portuguese, yet, there was not a dull moment. We left the bar at 2:00AM (place was getting ready to close by the way) after agreeing to R400 for all night at the Hilton.

On the way to the hotel I was afraid I made a mistake, she did not hold hands, did not talk, nothing. But once in the room though she turned into this hot bombshell that would make the real Britney blush. We had 3 hours of uninterrupted, torrid, just incredible sex, I can't even find the words to describe it, let's just say she was a real bomba, that her BBBJ was great and that she appeared to enjoy the session which was really nice.

She ended up staying 8 hours although she did attempt to leave at 5:00AM, which kind of broke the mood. I told her fine but I would not pay her the same for 3 hours than for TLN, so she stayed. I did not make a very big deal about it because she had been such an excellent performer.

I can't comment on whether the quality at CG is up or down since it was my first time there, but I would say 80% of the girls were doable, 50% were 7s or above and I saw 6 girls I would rate 8 and above, including Isadora.

The only thing I did not like about CG is that the bartender tried to open a R$350 half bottle of Veuve Cliquot without clearly asking me or mentioning the price. Got Isador a R$40 glass of wine instead.

I am planning to go to Clinica Kin this afternoon, I am wondering if I can walk there from the Hilton, since they are both in Brooklin, I spent over R$600 in taxis since I arrived 2 days ago, Brazil is definitely not cheap.

Timi Soara
05-30-07, 08:06
Any body been there recently? What is the situation. It used to be great after hours club. Is it still?

Bambino
05-31-07, 03:49
Guys,
I will be in Sao Paulo 7/13. The plan was 4d in SP, 8 in Rio, then4 more in SP. I find that the Pan Am games are in Rio at that time. The hotels are "practicing special pricing".
One side of me says, go for the best accomodations I can (my regular hotel (Sol Ipanema) is twice as expensive for this time...OR; just stay in SP and really get to know the place for 2 weeks.
Another option is to go north for some time. (Salvador, Natal, Forta., Recife). But I need optimal mongering possibilities.
Anybody got any thoughts?
It might even be cool to check out the games, but I'm afraid everything will be "priced-up" for the occasion.

Almotu
05-31-07, 15:37
Bambino,
Unless you have a special friend in Sao Paulo, I don't suggest coming here. Places are very spread out, taxis can kill you. Read Mahal's post below.

I arrived on Monday and could not get in touch with my special friend until she e-mailed me TODAY. I have been mongering on a backpackers budget this week. You can find cheap and good value during the daytime and afternoon if you stick to going to the Clinicas (MPs) (average $R120 per hour includes the cabine/room)

Night time Boites have high entrance fees ($R50-R150) some include drinks and food (like Bomboa). I went to Connection VIP last night for the first time and the place had possiblities. Had over 30 GDPs in hot revealing outfits and some did striptease routines. But it was full of guys, making the ratio probably 4 to 1. (GDPs to clients) I researched and got there from Jardins area via Metro & Bus for under $R10 but getting back to my hotel around 3:30am cost me $R50! The entrance fee was $R60 I think, but if you take a chick upstairs for 1 hour it is $R240 all inclusive (girl + room) and the entrance fee is waived. I would go back if I can arrange to share the cab ride back with someone.

Of course, you like reading on a quiet beach . . . there is none in Sao Paulo. But for the time that you'll be arriving, I am not sure how warm it will be in Rio anyhow. Remember it is their Fall/Winter. Last night it was 10ºC here in Sao Paulo, you would not believe how many women were bundled up in turtenecks and fluffy jackets! I would try to find a less expensive option than staying at the Sol Ipanema and just stay in Rio for the whole time.

I have not stayed here but a friend sent me this link. Maybe it's already booked during the Games but I think worth it to contact them.
http://www.riodreamapartment.com/flash_content/flash_content.html

Actually looking at your last post $R350 per night is probably not crazy high. There are guys on this board that stay in hotels in Sao Paulo for $250USD and up per night. Not my cup of tea.

BTW, I found the GDPs I met in Rio were hotter f*cks than the ones I met in Sao Paulo. Just my personal experience.

Helenasp
05-31-07, 18:12
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Bambino
06-02-07, 05:17
Almotu,
Thanks, buddy, for the informative words. I DO have a friend in SP. I'll be there to spend some time with him and his family.
As far as SP in general. I have been there 8 times in the past 3 yrs. And am now essentially fluent. But I know what you mean. My regular travel buddy refuses to go to SP with me. I like it because it's like NYC to me, and I'm a city boy. I love all the museums etc.
I may go up to Fortaleza for a few days. But the more I think about it, I may stay in SP. There really is so much to do.
Agreed; the cariocas are "warmer". And that spirit, there will keep me coming back for some time. I just don't think I want to be "in the mix" during the PanAm Games.
I've had some pretty good luck with awesome experiences in SP. I don't think I will have anything to regret.

Tchao...

Jonathan76
06-03-07, 01:45
Hello all,

Here are 2 photos of the type of woman I love.

She's around 55.

The only problem with her is that she's not voluptuous enough. A little bit plumper and larger would be nicer.

But her face and hair I love.

Can I find this type in Limeira or Andrades or the cheap bars ?

Thanks,

J.

Heroic
06-03-07, 18:19
If you don't have luck in Limeria then also consider this website:

http://www.contatos.com.br/

After you enter click through in this order: (1) "Acompanhantes"; (2) "Sao Paulo"; (3) "Femininas"; (4) "Loiras" and then (5) "Acima de 40 anos" (over 40).

The women are usually little older and plumper than what they post - placing them in their mid 50s. I personally have never tried them, but they are probably right up your alley.

Bambino
06-03-07, 19:41
Jonathan,
If that is what you're looking for I would consider the southern states. Lots of eastern european, poles, germans in Sta. Catarina. Rio Grande do Sul has more Italians (based on my humble experience)... But is VERY HELPFUL if you speak a bit of portugese.

Bananarama69
06-04-07, 17:26
I just can really recommend that place! If you really want a special experience ask for "Cleo"!!! :)

Have fun!

Daved
06-05-07, 01:16
Does anyone happen to know if the Grand Hyatt in SP is girl friendly? There appears to be a lot of security.

Also any places within a safe distance to meet up with some ladies?

Thanks.

Genghis Khan
06-05-07, 06:33
Does anyone happen to know if the Grand Hyatt in SP is girl friendly? There appears to be a lot of security.

Also any places within a safe distance to meet up with some ladies?

Thanks.

Yes, all hotels are girlfriendly in SP as long as you bring only one girl. The Grand Hyatt is no problem.

GK

Daved
06-05-07, 19:51
Sorry to be a pest guys, but this forum is to help each other out right?

Anyway, I am striking out calling places looking for english speaking ladies or even the operators for that matter.

Any leads on a provider I can call that speaks english? A webpage to their service would be helpful too.

Thanks!

Jonathan76
06-07-07, 04:52
Jonathan,

If that is what you're looking for I would consider the southern states. Lots of eastern european, poles, germans in Sta. Catarina. Rio Grande do Sul has more Italians (based on my humble experience)... But is VERY HELPFUL if you speak a bit of portugese.
If you don't have luck in Limeria then also consider this website:

http://www.contatos.com.br/

After you enter click through in this order: (1) "Acompanhantes"; (2) "Sao Paulo"; (3) "Femininas"; (4) "Loiras" and then (5) "Acima de 40 anos" (over 40).

The women are usually little older and plumper than what they post - placing them in their mid 50s. I personally have never tried them, but they are probably right up your alley.Bambino and Heroic,

Thank you for those suggestions.

Since I am fluent in Spanish, mastering the basics of Portuguese shouldn't be difficult at all.

I will be spending all of my time in Sao Paolo because I simply have no desire to get up and travel around Brazil. I've heard that SP is a big city with many possibilities so I'm not worried.

I am confident that between:

1) the 2 low-end buildings.

2) the Praca de Republica nighttime streetwalkers.

3) and the porno cinemas which have ladies walking up and down the aisles offering BJ, HJ and sex in the backroom..

.... that I will be able find at least 20 voluptuous, mid-fifties, big-assed women in these places combined.

Thanks again.

J.

Sui Generis
06-07-07, 09:14
.... that I will be able find at least 20 voluptuous, mid-fifties, big-assed women in these places combined.



Jonathan76

Here's one for you.

http://www.contatos.com.br/nome.php?nome=vanessavanelli

Loso69
06-07-07, 10:24
Daved,

Try Patricia:

http://www.chantily.com.br/saopaulo/garotas/loiras/patriciakimberly.htm

She used to be an English teacher, but being a porn star and escort pays better. :)

She looks like a redhead in her pictures, but she's actually a blonde. Amazing service! Great girl!

Loso

Mangera
06-07-07, 13:44
Jonathan76

Here's one for you.

http://www.contatos.com.br/nome.php?nome=vanessavanelli
I almost vomited, lol.

Jonathan76
06-07-07, 14:11
Hi Sui Generis,

The pic you posted is decent, I suppose.

But I'm looking for someone more like this:

Antgreg
06-07-07, 15:44
Hi guys,

I have made up my mind to visit Sao Paulo instead of Rio. I have a few questions I would like you guys to help me out with. What is the best hotel or hotls to stay at and what area is better? Where do I find the girls at which termas, which clubs and prices? I appreciate all the info as this will be my first time in Brazil, however I've been to other places.

Thanks

Jonathan76
06-08-07, 06:20
A few more I hope to find:

Badis
06-10-07, 19:22
So where do one turn when one need good info about a place far, far away? ISG Of course!

So am planning to fly down and see the F1 in October.

Anyone been there before and can share info about where to stay (in SP or at the track) or where to buy tickets and what stands are the best?

Any other useful info to think about while attending the F1 or about what to do while I'm there is more than welcome.

B

Bambino
06-11-07, 05:57
Gentelmen,

I am on the way back!

I will be spending the whole time in Sao Paulo. Possibly heading up to Goiania to visit a friend ( and possibly confirm some good things I have heard from a co-worker from SP) for a few days. There are some good things on gpguia also, about Goiania.

But while in S.P. I plan to "do it all" many times. The whole reange of prives, casas, "casas noturnas", escorts, and some non-pro playing around.

If anyone is going to be there at the time, I could use a wingman for some of this.

Lemme know...

Sui Generis
06-12-07, 16:52
Hi Sui Generis,

The pic you posted is decent, I suppose.

But I'm looking for someone more like this:

I guess then that Fofa devora should be perfect.

http://www.contatos.com.br/nome.php?nome=fofadevora

Good luck!

Johan
06-13-07, 18:29
I concurred with Almotu on his assessment of Rio vs. SP. I did some research of SP for about 1 week in 2003 (after visiting Rio for over 10 years regularly). Based on Almotu's report, seems like things remain the same since 4 years ago.

In 2003, I followed the intelligence lead as provided by this board and checked out as much as the scene given my limited time of one week. Almotu is right. SP is a huge city and things are spread out ala LAX. So, getting point A to point B involves time and $. Cab fare is expensive, even travel for short distance (due to the constant stop and go in SP huge traffic jam, the city seems to be in 24/7 traffic jam - except the weekends). Indeed there are lots of "clinics" but the best clinics do not offer the same level of service ala Termas in Rio. There are lots of clubs/boates and indeed they are very nice, Cafe Foto and the like. However, the entrance fee is high and the expense with the girls is even higher. Of course, everything is relative, if you live and work in SP and have lots of time, I think SP would be a lot of fun. However, if you are on a tight budget and even more tighter time available, SP may not be the best place to spend your time. Definitely visit SP for the experience but be realistic with your expectation.

Jonathan76
06-14-07, 01:10
I guess then that Fofa devora should be perfect.

http://www.contatos.com.br/nome.php?nome=fofadevora

Good luck!Sui Generis,

Thank you SO MUCH! That is what I'm looking for. Too bad she's not 55 yet but that's o. K.

And I converted her measurements too: she's 5 foot 2 inches and weighs around 170 pounds.

The only problem for me now is having to wait until the end of July for my trip.

Thanks again.

J.

Sui Generis
06-14-07, 08:53
Almotu and Johnatan76,

Both of you are right! São Paulo is a huge city and sometimes we can have the impression of being overwhelmed by its dimension. The first time I was in Sampa I hated the city so much because I was unable to find my way and, consequently, I felt opressed. For a moment, I thought I was the personification of a character (Pa) in an old Charles Lamont's movie I saw when I was a child : Ma and Pa Kettle Go to Town (1950) : a moron in a big city.


In São paulo you have to deal with the immensity of the town but as wrote the poet Glauco Mattoso in Urbaniversado (2002) : "o imenso não é feio nem bonito" (immensity is neither beautiful nor ugly). Immensity is a fact and you have to accept it. Once it's done you will have to live with it. Even the paulistanos have to accept this; it's part of their daily life.

I remember once that I saw a dating game on a TV chanel in São Paulo. At a certain part of the game the female contestants were able to pick up the male contestant they liked the most. They had then a chance to talk to each other (in an secluded place) in order to discover if there was some compatibility between them. After a while, they asked the momentary paired contestants if the match was perfect or not. Believe it or not, the major reason they gave to explain why there was an incompatibility between them was the distance between their respective dwelling place. «Oh, I like him a lot. It think he's perfect but you know I live in Moema and he lives in Tucuruvi...the distance is too big between us!» Damn!!!!

As wrote the poet Luiz Roberto Guedes São Paulo is "a cidade em fugua". We can play here on the polysemy of the locution "em fugua" (en fugue, in French). "Em fugua" can be translated (roughly) as runaway in the sense of "out of control", "enormous" or "which has fled". People in São Paulo are "em fugua" in the sense that they are always moving from one place to another in order to escape their plight. Runaway (enormous) São Paulo induces the feeling of running away (em fugua) from it.

In another poem Guedes wrote:

Branca, negra ou amarela,
passa gente na calçada:
assim vejo, aglomerada,
São Paulo, pela janela.
A visão que tenho dela
se turva quando me molha
a lágrima, e se desfolha
no outono da minha vida.
Saudosa da cor perdida,
tem a cara de quem olha.

White, black or yellow,
pass people on the sidewalk:
thus I see, squezzed up,
São Paulo, through the window.
The vision I have of it
becomes blurred when a tear
wets my eyes and defoliates itself
in the autumn of my life.
Melancholy of the lost colour
has the face of the person who looks.


This being said, is São Paulo really inimical to mongering?

No, not at all. But before leaving, you should try to figure out IN ADVANCE the places (privês, boates, clinics, freelance escorts) you want to visit.

I'm always surprised to see that almost all members on this board head to Jardim. What's the deal with Jardim? You're close to downton (centro), yeah and so what? Big deal! When comes the night there nothing to do there and when you want some action you are obliged to spend money on expensive car rides.

I prefer to stay in Moema. There's a lot of restaurants, clubs amd bars and the neibourghood is very safe. Many escorts live there, so I don't have to spend expensive taxi fares. If I want to visit a clinic or a privês or spend the night in a boate everything is close to Moema...so why stay in Jardim?

Just my two cents.

Sui Generis
06-14-07, 09:07
Sui Generis,

Too bad she's not 55 yet but that's o. K.

J.

Jonathan76, don't believe everything you read on these ads. She's not 38, she's definitely in her late 40's or early 50's.

When a GDP says she's 20, always add 3 or 4 years.
When a GDP says she's 25, always add 5 to 7 years
When a GDP says she's 30, always add 10 years
When a GDP says she's 40, well me prefer not to know! LOL

Mangera
06-14-07, 11:31
Almotu and Johnatan76,

Both of you are right! São Paulo is a huge city and sometimes we can have the impression of being overwhelmed by its dimension. The first time I was in Sampa I hated the city so much because I was unable to find my way and, consequently, I felt opressed. For a moment, I thought I was the personification of a character (Pa) in an old Charles Lamont's movie I saw when I was a child : Ma and Pa Kettle Go to Town (1950) : a moron in a big city.


In São paulo you have to deal with the immensity of the town but as wrote the poet Glauco Mattoso in Urbaniversado (2002) : "o imenso não é feio nem bonito" (immensity is neither beautiful nor ugly). Immensity is a fact and you have to accept it. Once it's done you will have to live with it. Even the paulistanos have to accept this; it's part of their daily life.

I remember once that I saw a dating game on a TV chanel in São Paulo. At a certain part of the game the female contestants were able to pick up the male contestant they liked the most. They had then a chance to talk to each other (in an secluded place) in order to discover if there was some compatibility between them. After a while, they asked the momentary paired contestants if the match was perfect or not. Believe it or not, the major reason they gave to explain why there was an incompatibility between them was the distance between their respective dwelling place. «Oh, I like him a lot. It think he's perfect but you know I live in Moema and he lives in Tucuruvi...the distance is too big between us!» Damn!!!!

As wrote the poet Luiz Roberto Guedes São Paulo is "a cidade em fugua". We can play here on the polysemy of the locution "em fugua" (en fugue, in French). "Em fugua" can be translated (roughly) as runaway in the sense of "out of control", "enormous" or "which has fled". People in São Paulo are "em fugua" in the sense that they are always moving from one place to another in order to escape their plight. Runaway (enormous) São Paulo induces the feeling of running away (em fugua) from it.

In another poem Guedes wrote:

Branca, negra ou amarela,
passa gente na calçada:
assim vejo, aglomerada,
São Paulo, pela janela.
A visão que tenho dela
se turva quando me molha
a lágrima, e se desfolha
no outono da minha vida.
Saudosa da cor perdida,
tem a cara de quem olha.

White, black or yellow,
pass people on the sidewalk:
thus I see, squezzed up,
São Paulo, through the window.
The vision I have of it
becomes blurred when a tear
wets my eyes and defoliates itself
in the autumn of my life.
Melancholy of the lost colour
has the face of the person who looks.


This being said, is São Paulo really inimical to mongering?

No, not at all. But before leaving, you should try to figure out IN ADVANCE the places (privês, boates, clinics, freelance escorts) you want to visit.

I'm always surprised to see that almost all members on this board head to Jardim. What's the deal with Jardim? You're close to downton (centro), yeah and so what? Big deal! When comes the night there nothing to do there and when you want some action you are obliged to spend money on expensive car rides.

I prefer to stay in Moema. There's a lot of restaurants, clubs amd bars and the neibourghood is very safe. Many escorts live there, so I don't have to spend expensive taxi fares. If I want to visit a clinic or a privês or spend the night in a boate everything is close to Moema...so why stay in Jardim?

Just my two cents.

I am in Rio now, and was thinking about heading over to SP for a 3 or 4 day stay. But I am not that familiar with SP. My concern all along has been trying to find a location that does not require all of this traveling time back and forth. Yes, taxi money is an issue, but time is even a bigger factor. Thanks for your input about Moema. Could you please suggest any particular hotel that are not expensive, or cheap, just overall good value. Examples of clinicas or similar places near by. Any info. would be much appreciated.

Euro100
06-15-07, 00:34
Jonathan76, don't believe everything you read on these ads. She's not 38, she's definitely in her late 40's or early 50's.

When a GDP says she's 20, always add 3 or 4 years.
When a GDP says she's 25, always add 5 to 7 years
When a GDP says she's 30, always add 10 years
When a GDP says she's 40, well me prefer not to know! LOL

Yes, true, but I am not 35 either...

Sui Generis
06-15-07, 08:26
First of all, a word of caution.

I prefer Moema but I am perfectly aware that this district is not a kind of Shangri-La or mythical Eldorado. It only suits my needs (which, all things considered, are quite modest).

I'll try to explain in few words my I prefer this district to any others in São Paulo.

THE DISTRICT

1) The district (formerly called Indianopolis) is relatively quiet (however, we should never loose sight of the fact that we are still in São Paulo). In general, the tree-shaded streets are safe at any time of the day. I often walk at night. It's mainly a residential district. The avenida Ibirapuera cuts the district in the middle. Close to the Avenida Ipirapuera there's streets with a lot of restaurants, bars, cafés, padarias and shops.

In the southern part of the district, there's also individual houses. Near avenida Eucaliptos, and Juauapueri (close to the praça Paul harris) for example, you almost have the feeling that you are in the country.

http://www.vippapers.com.br/produtos/images/fachada_ok.jpg


RESTAURANTS

2) As I mentioned there's a lot of restaurants in this district.

My favorite ones are:

For lunch:

Empório Moema Pães e cia.
Rua Canário, 850 esq. Av. Macuco
Tel: 2101-4000
http://www.emporiomoema.com.br/

http://www.guiasp.com.br/guiasp/site/gastronomia/despliegue.cfm?mn=3&id_conteudo=94157


For informal diner:
Bar du Cais
Av. Lavandisca, 717 esq. Al. Dos Arapanés
Tel: 5051-7235 5056-0922

Favela Moema
Av. Lavandisca, 590
Tel: 5055-2892 5055-3281


For steaks (parilla argentina)
http://www.villaalvear.com.br/abre.htm

Brazilian Cuisine (from Minas Gerais)
http://www.donalucinha.com.br/

and many more....there's virtually a restaurant at each corner.


HOTELS: There are many hotels in Moema. Here's a small sample:


Blue Tree Convention Ibirapuera
2, 927 Av Ibirapuera

Blue Tree Towers Ibirapuera
2, 577 Av Inirapuera

Estanplaza Ibirapuera
501, Avenida Jndira.

Merak Hotel
262 Lavandisca

Travel Inn Ritz Flat
711, rua Araguari

Quality Moema
57, Avenida Rouxinol

Mercure Le Corbusier
365 Avenida Lavandisca

Habitually, I stay in this hotel. It is almost half the distance between Santo Amato and Avenida Ibirapuera. On Sundays, there's a market on the street.

It's not far from the Nossa Senhora Aparecida Square.

http://www.paroquiamoema.org.br/

Each Sunday, there's also a fair there. I like this square because there's also a lot of Sebos (used books stores).

If you take the bus on Lavandisca, within 15 minutes you're at the Santa Cruz subway station.

If you're looking for an Internet Cafe there's one nearby:
Gamenetx: 2469, Avenida Lavandisca.

Hobbying:


BOATES

Moulin Rouge Night Club
2, 217 Av. dos Bandeirantes, 2.217 - Moema
(Av. dos Bandeirantes with Av. Santo Amaro)
Entrance Fee : R$ 45
GDP 145 R$ + R$ 65 for the room (1 hour).

PANTHER'S NIGHT CLUB (Not far from Moema)
http://www.panthersnightclub.com.br/

Entrance Fee: R$ 30 (entitles you to 3 drinks)
GDP (with room included) R$ 170.

AMERICAN SHOW
http://www.americanshow.com.br/

Entrance : R$ 80
Room: R$ 70
GDP : between R$ 150 and R$ 300 (be ready to negotiate)

SOLID GOLD
http://www.solidgold.com.br

Entrance Fee: R$ 75
Room (between R$ 50 and R$ 70)
GDP : between R$ 150 and R$ 400 (be ready to negotiate)

BLACK MOON CAFE (not far from Moema)
558, Avenida Santo Amaro

Entrance Fee : R$ 12 (entitles you to two beers)
Room: R$ 60 (1h)
GDP: R$ 100 (1h)

CAFE PHOTO
(There's enough information on this site. Search the threads)

BAHAMAS
571, rua dos Chanés
http://www.cyberbahamas.com.br

Entrance Fee : R$ 123
Room : R$ 100
GDP: between R$ 250 and R$ 400.


CLINICS (most of the good clinics are close to Moema)

Clinica Cherry
http://www.clinicacherry.com.br

Clinica La fleur de jour
http://www.lafleurdejour.com.br

Clinica Zen
www.clinicazen.com.br

Clinica Quatro estaçoes
www.quatroestacoesvip.com.br

and many more.....

GDP?
There's a lot of GDP receiving in their flat. Between R$ 150 to R$ 300. Some of them are not clock watcher.

Mangera
06-15-07, 12:33
Quick, concise, informative and excellent report.

Prosal
06-15-07, 13:41
Mangera.

Staying in Moema requires a minimum daily taxi budget of 120/140 reals if you want to partake Sao Paulo's frenzy nightlife and wander every night around Zona Sul, Pinheiros and Centro, and more if you want also visit more remote places like Gauguin in Brooklin, Connection in Tatuapé, Millenium in Ipiranga, ect. The only ride back from Love Story in Centro to your hotel in Moema will cost you around 40 reals.

For anyone who comes to Sao Paulo to party and hit the best boites and clubs (is there another reason to come to SP ?!?), there's no sense to stay in such a remote neighborhood. Better choose Itaim/V.Olimpia, which is the regular nightlife's epicenter, Jardins or Pinheiros. Yet IMO Centro is the best location if you stay only a few days and want to optimize your time without ruining yourself in taxi fares.

Nevertheless, for the older guys who are not interested by bars/boites/clubs hopping, but only by daytime appointments with GdPs and don't really need to move at night (as obviously Sui G), Moema and its quiet residential atmosphere is a good location I agree.

Bimbo Boy
06-15-07, 15:33
Mangera.
Nevertheless, for the older guys who are not interested by bars/boites/clubs hopping and don't really need to move at night, Moema and its quiet residential atmosphere is a good location I agree.
Plus the fact that many independent girls live and work in Moema. There even a few famous buildings where the garotas de programa congregate and where the porter sees a continuous flow of clients all day long.
For example, in avenida Miruna.
Sometimes, clients are 4 or 5 waiting downstairs in the lobby, and we are all eyeing each other because we all know why we are there. Then the elevator comes and a superb girl comes and takes away one of us ... Such nice memories ...
BB

Sui Generis
06-17-07, 07:46
Nevertheless, for the older guys who are not interested by bars/boites/clubs hopping, but only by daytime appointments with GdPs and don't really need to move at night (as obviously Sui G), Moema and its quiet residential atmosphere is a good location I agree.


As I'm not the third member of the infamous Butabi brothers (in the movie A Night at the Roxbury), I don't like to go out in clubs like the ones that are located in Centro. I prefer the cozy atmosphere of jazz clubs like Bourbon Street, in Moema. By the way, Bourbon Street is a great place to spot non-pros.

I also like the residential atmosphere of Moema because I can roam carefree the streets with my wheechair.




For anyone who comes to Sao Paulo to party and hit the best boites and clubs (is there another reason to come to SP ?!?), there's no sense to stay in such a remote neighborhood. Better choose Itaim/V.Olimpia, which is the regular nightlife's epicenter, Jardins or Pinheiros. Yet IMO Centro is the best location if you stay only a few days and want to optimize your time without ruining yourself in taxi fares.

.

Finallly, Zona Sul, Itaim Bibi and Vila Olimpia are closer to Moema (which is Zona Sul Oeste) than Centro or Jardim. They are adjacent to it! So, I don't really get Prosal's point when he mentioned that it will cost R$ 120 in taxi fares if you want to party from Moema. At most it's a R$ 20/25 trip...

Prosal
06-17-07, 10:49
Finallly, Zona Sul, Itaim Bibi and Vila Olimpia are closer to Moema (which is Zona Sul Oeste) than Centro or Jardim. They are adjacent to it! So, I don't really get Prosal's point when he mentioned that it will cost R$ 120 in taxi fares if you want to party from Moema. At most it's a R$ 20/25 trip...
I mentionned Itaim as it's the epicenter of Sao Paulo's regular nightlife and a convenient bairro to stay, both for its numerous non-pro venues and, as you say, its proximity of Pinheiros and Centro. Actually, you noticed that maybe 80% of the reports in this thread concern venues located in Pinheiros (Bomboa, Conniff, ect), Centro (N.Pestana and Augusta strip bars, Love Story), Aclimacao (Eu & Elas), Tatuape (Connection, ect), Brooklin (Gauguin), Ipiranga (Millenium), ect.

My "point" is that all those neighborhoods are all a +/- 40 reals one way trip from Moema. As i said there's no sense to stay in such a remote neighborhood. A hobbyist who wants to blend in one night let's say Gauguin, Bomboa and LS (my personnal daily schedule was usually much more complicated) will spend a minimum of 130 reals in taxi fares if his base is Moema. At today's exchange rates, it's an outrageous expense of us$70/day.

Anyway as usual, to each his own. Sao Paulo, and more generally Brasil, is now too pricey and out of market for me. In Chisinau taxi fares are $1,5 whatever the length of the ride.


;)

Craps7
06-18-07, 19:55
I am a senior member of the US board and will be arriving in SP late the night of 6/24 (Sunday) and staying at the Hilton. I have a quiet day planned for Monday and would like to entertain a hot provider.

Any recommendations on barbie doll type i.e. tall, slender, gfe, greek and discreet enough for the hotel? Unfortunately I speak no Portugese so contacting agencies is probably not going to work.

If no outcall what about Termas? Do they exist in SP?

Thanks

Tommy America
06-18-07, 23:39
Does anyone know if any of the better clinicas / massage parlors are open on Sundays?

Peter Den
06-19-07, 01:59
Most clinicas are not open on Sunday. I did find one that was open on Sundays (that was early this year) . It is called Clinica New Tokio (http://www.newtokio.com.br/). I am not sure if they are open on Sundays anymore.


Does anyone know if any of the better clinicas / massage parlors are open on Sundays?

Lossapenny
06-19-07, 01:59
craps7, You can have someone from the hotel your at call the escort of your choice from malicia chantily erosguide.Just one question, is it safe to call a indenpent SP into the hotel room?

Prosal
06-19-07, 15:16
I am a senior member of the US board and will be arriving in SP late the night of 6/24 (Sunday) and staying at the Hilton. I have a quiet day planned for Monday and would like to entertain a hot provider. Unfortunately I speak no Portugese so contacting agencies is probably not going to work.
You can try Cafe Gauguin in the evening. It's a nice upmarket club located rua Arizona (near Berrini, a few minutes taxi ride from your hotel), and you will find there some english speaking garotas as the place caters to the international clientele staying in Morumbi.

I think someone has posted a report about Gauguin a few weeks ago.

Sui Generis
06-19-07, 15:54
Just one question, is it safe to call a indenpent SP into the hotel room?

Lossapenny,

Yes, it is very safe to call an indy to your hotel.

You must be aware that most Brazilian Internet sites are not agencies in the North American sense of the term. In fact, it's better to deal with indies than with agencies. With agencies there's always the problem of bait'n switch and the time you spend with the GDP is limited. You can recognize agencies because there's only one phone (or very few) number for all the girls that are displayed on the site. Habitually the pics of the girls are from European models (or american porn stars)., Stay away from agencies....they are run by cafetãos (pimps!)
I don't know how they split the money in Brazil, but here in Montreal if you pay $CDN 180 for an escort, it will be divided between the girl ($100), the owner of the agency ($60) and the driver ($20). Most agencies are run by mobsters (bikers like Hell's Angels or Haitian gang members like Bo Gars or CDP (Crak Down Posse).


The other sites are deserving indies. Garotas pay a monthly fee (or a package deal) to sites, such as Eros Guide, for example. In return they take their pictures and they publish them of their site. There's no time limitation with indies. If there's chemistry between both of you....well, you can stay almost as long as you want. Most indies receive John's in their apartment, which is quite cool.

Lossapenny
06-19-07, 21:07
Hi Sui Generis,

Thanks so much for the information and to be honest, I found the $$ posted by the agency is so cheap (+/- R$110 + taxi) and I almost give them a try. Fortunately just got the info from you and for sure I'll stay away now.

Thanks again!


Lossapenny,

Yes, it is very safe to call an indy to your hotel.

You must be aware that most Brazilian Internet sites are not agencies in the North American sense of the term. In fact, it's better to deal with indies than with agencies. With agencies there's always the problem of bait'n switch and the time you spend with the GDP is limited. You can recognize agencies because there's only one phone (or very few) number for all the girls that are displayed on the site. Habitually the pics of the girls are from European models (or american porn stars)., Stay away from agencies....they are run by cafetãos (pimps!)

I don't know how they split the money in Brazil, but here in Montreal if you pay $CDN 180 for an escort, it will be divided between the girl ($100), the owner of the agency ($60) and the driver ($20). Most agencies are run by mobsters (bikers like Hell's Angels or Haitian gang members like Bo Gars or CDP (Crak Down Posse).

The other sites are deserving indies. Garotas pay a monthly fee (or a package deal) to sites, such as Eros Guide, for example. In return they take their pictures and they publish them of their site. There's no time limitation with indies. If there's chemistry between both of you....well, you can stay almost as long as you want. Most indies receive John's in their apartment, which is quite cool.

Craps7
06-20-07, 04:27
Took way to much time today and read every post from this year. I now fell armed and ready for my flight on Sunday. Man there is a lot of good info.

I am 99% sure that I am heading to Clinica Kin on Monday. Camilla is my 1st choice. Berrini is back up with a coupe of hotties.

Couple questions as I am staying at the Hilton Morumbi:

1) How far is CK & Berrini from Hilton? Public trans or taxi?

2) In regard to Hilton, if time persists where is the Rue Augusta, Love Story and AMCenter?

3) Many Clinics in SP and Termas in Rio accept credit cards. What is thoughts here as enough cash may be difficult to come up with?

Thanks. Reports to follow.

Sui Generis
06-20-07, 16:34
1) How far is CK & Berrini from Hilton? Public trans or taxi?

3) Many Clinics in SP and Termas in Rio accept credit cards. What is thoughts here as enough cash may be difficult to come up with?

Thanks. Reports to follow.

Craps7,

Berrini : 245 Av. Roque Petroni Jr. (Campo Belo) is only 3.47 km (just 2 miles) from Morumbi Hilton

Clinica Kin (235 rua Prof. José Marques da Cruz) is very close to Berrini and it's even closer to Hotel Morumbi (wow you gain 70 meters!). The distance between your hotel and Kin is only 3.4 km.


It seems that you can walk the distance. If you don't want to walk, a taxi ride will be inexpensive.

Question 3. I used my credit card in PHQ1 and in Privé da rua Jaceru. There's no problem with that mode of payment.

Have a nice trip.

SG

Peter P
06-22-07, 00:45
After quite a long period of absence, I managed to have stay a few days in Sao Paulo and Rio last week. I must say that things have become expensive. Cafe Foto prices seemed to have gone up since a year or so ago. I also tried a few garotas from the respected ellass.com.br Some quick feedback:

Nataly : beautiful in the pic, far cry in person. also, not as young as she claims. BRL 300 for 1.5 hrs. lack lustre performance, highly NOT recommended.

Silvia Mendes : EXXXCELLENT. BRL 300, no keeping of time, above expectations, 5 stars for me :)

Dany : Again, not the GFE I was expecting, seemed really bored, and a little blurry eyed, looks like she's on drugs...just my guess. For 250 BRL, wanted to end quickly and get it over the done with. NOT recommended

I also found a good taxi driver in Rio. Reliable and knowledgeable, english speaking, very friendly. Anyone who needs contact let me know

Best
PP

Mahal
06-23-07, 18:57
I wish I had posted earlier, I went to the clinica almost a month ago and can't remember some of the important details. Anyway you cannot walk there from the Hilton, even though it is in Morumbi it is actually quite far away. I went mid-afternoon mid-week without an appointment and waited an hour. The wait was pleasant though, the hostess offered a drink and to consult the catalogue and the girls came to introduce themselves from time to time between two customers.

Everything was as described in other posts in terms of quality and service. I picked 2 girls but one of them was new and the other one offered to bring another girl instead. I accepted, they worked together as a team and it was a great experience.

A couple remarks though: first the hour did not actually last an hour, more like 45 minutes and second, the hostess quoted me a price than was about 60 or 80 reals higher than what has been reported on this forum. I told her I read the price I had read on the internet and she said she did not know what I was talking about. I am sorry I cannot provide the exact numbers. However when I checked out the hostess returned the difference and said she would honor the price I had read about on the Internet. That was a satisfactory resolution but I am wondering if anyone else has had this experience at Clinical Kin.

Besides that, it is a great place and the girls are very friendly and professional.

Mahal

Caimani
06-25-07, 00:02
Hi everybody,

I'm going to SP next week and I'd like to have some leisure meetings with hot Brazil chicas. Surfing on the internet I ventured into this site
(www.mclass.com.br) where the girls are all very good looking... even TOO MUCH good looking.

Do you think it's reliable? Or is it just a scam?

Peter Den
06-26-07, 06:53
I found this useful website. It has a lists of the clinics with addresses and phone numbers in each neighborhood in Sampa.

http://nossoforum.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6049

Blkdragon
06-26-07, 12:25
I've been to many countries in Asia and would like to make a future trip to SP and Rio. I've read that SP-Liberdade has the most Japanese living there outside of Jpn.

I plan to sample all flavors of females while in Brazil but the info on Japanese or part Jpn chikadees here is sparse. SP veterans where to go to hook up w/ the Japanese gals? Clinica, madam ph:, boite, freelancer p/up joint, uni gal nightclub?

Names / address of establishments please.

Peter P
06-26-07, 13:10
Hi everybody,

I'm going to SP next week and I'd like to have some leisure meetings with hot Brazil chicas. Surfing on the internet I ventured into this site
(www.mclass.com.br) where the girls are all very good looking... even TOO MUCH good looking.

Do you think it's reliable? Or is it just a scam?

Mostly photoshopped

Craps7
06-26-07, 14:29
Got in late Sunday night. Worked Monday but coworker was beat and headed for bed. I took my print out of the address for Clinica Kin and Berinni Massage to hotel lobby. Hilton bellman got me a cab and asked where I was going. A little embarrased I showed him the print out for Berrinni. He said ahhh, massage and barked instructions to driver.

Drive was short but traffic crazy. It was about 6 PM. Got to Berrini and went in. Pretty cool set up. First actual cat house experience for me. In the US we would call it an end unit town house. I guess in the city more of a row house.

You walk into the lobby. Well appointed room with tables, chairs, couches, tv etc. Front desk lady comes over and when she realized I speak no Portuguese said uh oh and muttered ladies will come and introduce and gave me a beer.

She went back to her desk and pushed a button on the wall for an intercom. One by one the available ladies came out, looking fine in skimpy dresses and heels, said hello, gave a kiss on the check, said there name and left for the next.

Quick diversion here. If you love hot dark haired ladies, Sampa is unreal. I personally go more for blondes and brunettes. All but one of the hotties that I was introduced to had black hair. Photos of all the girls were also on the wall. After the ladies came out the desk lady came and asked you who you liked and the girl would come back out with her bag of goodies and off to a room. The girls were hot and the only dark haired girl I was leaning toward got scooped up by another guy getting introductions too. I went to wall and pointed to 2 blondes that I liked Duda and Brenda. She said Duda off today, Brenda busy for 30 minutes. I chose to wait which was kind of strange for me as I always hope that I am their first.

Wait was only about 20 minutes, but got to have another beer and watch the goings on. First when the girl and guy are done they come down say good bye and the guys settles up with the desk lady just like he is checking out of a store. Got to see a couple of other girls that were not available for my intro go back to the room that they wait.

I recognized Brenda bring her John back and she disappeared into their waiting room for about 5 minutes and came out and got me and we were off to a massage room upstairs. She spoke no English so that was a definite draw back but she looked incredible hot in her short skirt, open top and heels.

She kissed lightly and said ok and pointed to my lips. Not totally sure what she meant but I said Se. Found out she meant DFK and she locked on. I started the teenage coping a feel of her boobs and butt under skirt and she started rubbing my johnson.

Now the only negative. The room is tiny with a massage table and an extra mat. When we unlocked DFK we undressed and she got the mat off the table and put it on the floor and a sheet on it. When she started to take her heels off I tried to stop her but she did not get what I meant and they came off. She motioned me to lie on my back she climbed on top DFK and working her way down to an incredible BBBJ. BBBJ & BLS for a long time. Then she slid around putting her pussy up close to me which I began massaging and digit insertion. She was soaked but not sure if that was natural or lube. I was tempted to DATY, but not sure if she was clean following her previous liaison.

She stopped for a second and said sexo? I said se. She stood up and leaned over the massage table and started fumbling around her bag I couldn't resist the sight and got behind her little body groping her chest and rubbing her P. I could she she was getting a jimmy out but she reached down and grabbed my cock and held it tight against her P and gyrating back and forth. It felt so good, I thought I was inside her and that freaked me out a bit. I wasn't. She kneeled down and put the condom on and back over the table to take it from behind. It was awesome. After a couple of minutes she spun around and climbed up on the table for me to bang her mish. That is one hot body.

While still inside she put her arms around my neck and I lifted her up and tried to pump a couple times standing like in the movies. Guys, leave that for the professionals! Instead I layed her down on the mat and about 3 pumps later blew my load.

She hopped up removed the condom and asked if I wanted a massage. Nice back and shoulders and then she said to roll over. I did and she massaged both feet and that was it. Not really sure of the point. She pointed to the shower and I said yes. I took my shower and then she took one too which made me feel good that she had one before me.

We went down stairs said good bye and she left me at the desk. The desk lady wrote down 120 and I said no and wrote 100. She said ok and I pulled out $100R. Might have been my error in price as I have no idea what the services and prices on their web page mean. Some are 100/hr others are 120/hr. Either way it worked out fine and for less then $50 USD for almost an hour with a GFE hottie. Had hoped to try Greek but obviously not possible. I should have rubbed one out first!

Desk lady called a taxi that was there in about 2 minutes.

I highly recommend the clinic, especially for the language challenged as there is no negotiating etc. The room wasn't great, mostly f'ing on the floor on an exercise mat with a sheet on it was not my favorite but overall a great value.

I hope to sneak away from my coworkers again this week and may go back for Duda or to Clinica Kin for a try.

Thanks for all the help and for the great board.

http://berrinimassagem.com.br/massagistas.htm

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Almotu
06-27-07, 00:47
. . .She motioned me to lie on my back she climbed on top DFK and working her way down to an incredible BBBJ. BBBJ & BLS for a long time.
Then she slid around putting her pussy up close to me which I began massaging and digit insertion. She was soaked but not sure if that was natural or lube. . . .
I could she she was getting a jimmy out but she reached down and grabbed my cock and held it tight against her P and gyrating back and forth. It felt so good, I thought I was inside her and that freaked me out a bit. . . .

While still inside she put her arms around my neck and I lifted her up and tried to pump a couple times standing like in the movies. Guys, leave that for the professionals! LOL! Almost too funny :D The part about f*cking standing up. What is BLS?
Sounds like you had a great time!
You got lucky pulling Brenda who was OK with BBBJ. This must be her - http://berrinimassagem.com.br/brenda.htm Did she have breast implants? Many girls working at clinicas only CBJ.
Next time try Clinica Kin. The madame is very gringo friendly . . . definitely a MILF. Good selection of girls as well & have good reputation for giving BBBJs.

Craps7
06-27-07, 03:05
Thanks Almotu

Yes that is the Brenda I saw. Not positive on the implants but probably. They were not big by implant standard but solid.

BLS is a term we use in the US for Ball Licking and Sucking for playing with the boys during a BBBJ.

I will probably try to make it to Clinica Kin tomorrow if possible. Going to Rio for the day for business so I may get back to late. Saw on my way back from dinner tonight that Cafe Gauguin is very close. May check it out if too late for the clinica kin. Or may take chance for an escort visitor.

Great city though. Sampa rocks. Wish there would be an opportunity to play in Rio but traveling with business associate.

Prosal
06-27-07, 10:06
Hi everybody,
I'm going to SP next week and I'd like to have some leisure meetings with hot Brazil chicas. Surfing on the internet I ventured into this site
(www.mclass.com.br) where the girls are all very good looking... even TOO MUCH good looking.
Do you think it's reliable? Or is it just a scam?

Maybe I've been lucky, but the only accompanhante from Mclass I fucked (her "nome de guerra" was Estrela and her real name Anna Paula, but she's no more on the site) was even more beautiful in flesh than on her pics.

Bonhead
06-28-07, 01:01
Does anyone happen to know if the Grand Hyatt in SP is girl friendly? There appears to be a lot of security.

Also any places within a safe distance to meet up with some ladies?

Thanks.

When I stayed at the GH in 2005 it was definitely girl-friendly. The bell-hops would even made the calls and negotiate for me. I tipped them $10 for their help and there was never a joiner fee.

Surferr3
06-28-07, 06:14
I am convinced that ALL bellhops at all of the hotels will gladly make phone calls to garotas. Make sure to tip them well and they will be knocking on your door to set up your daily activities.

Sjo Rio
07-03-07, 19:35
Got stuck in Sao Paolo coming from Rio and no 0 about Sao Paolo. Any Terma like places or ??? to kill 6 or 7 hours while I am here near the Renaissance Hotel in SP? I do not have a room so I am looking for something like a Terma ideally.

Thanks

Almotu
07-04-07, 14:46
What hours are you there? I have not been to Eu & Ela which is the closest to a terma that Sao Paulo offers so I can not recommend it but there are some positive posts here in this forum. I would go to Bomboa, they are open by 2/3pm with a small lineup of girls which I have not partaken. Entry is expensive, I think $R150 but you can have food & drink with it as your minimum consumption. You can try going to Clinica Kin. It is highly recommended here but quite far from Paulista. Do a search. The third possibility is just poke your head in some of the Rua Augusta places. Quality is hit or miss and action don't start until late . . . 9/10pm. Traffic is Sao Paulo is horrendous so you will probably only have time for one stop. Good Luck to you.

Monger X
07-06-07, 00:40
I'm headed to Sao Paolo next month for one week on business. This is my first ever trip to Brazil and I have been informed I will be staying in Alphaville at the Quality Suite hotel. I did a search on the board and only found one hit from 2002(!). Can anyone offer any info about the area regarding how girl-friendly this hotel is and the opportuniuties available to partake in our hobby in this area?

Much thanks in advance!!

Johan
07-06-07, 19:26
1. In the past, Varig offer non Brasilian tourists 21 days Airpass good for 6 stops for US$500-. Varig is out of business, any new carriers offering Airpass to tourists?

2. The TAM and Gol airlines' website allow ticket purchase online. However, seems like they need a certain Brasilian ID (something like the SSN in US). Anyone of you (non Brazilian) who purchase ticket online without having to put in the SSN#?

3. Which is cheaper? Purchase ticket at the airport or online?

4. Which is cheaper? Advance 21 days purchase or Purchase at the airport and fly on the same day? Sounds like a dumb question but in the past, I have found 14-21 days advance purchase is the same fare as fly on the same day.

Thanks a lot.

Oliver Queen
07-07-07, 06:08
Hi everybody,

I'm going to SP next week and I'd like to have some leisure meetings with hot Brazil chicas. Surfing on the internet I ventured into this site
(www.mclass.com.br) where the girls are all very good looking... even TOO MUCH good looking.

Do you think it's reliable? Or is it just a scam?Hi there, I used mclass several times. The girls are beautiful. And in the photos they used photoshop.

But. I reccomend.

Try manuella (manoela). A blond girl. She is amazing

Vatel69
07-07-07, 08:06
Johan,
I dont know of any company offering airpass anymore.
To buy online from Gol, I think the only credit card they accept for foreigners is AMEX.
An as anywhere, to buy in advance is always better.

Peter Den
07-07-07, 17:27
1. In the past, Varig offer non Brasilian tourists 21 days Airpass good for 6 stops for US$500-. Varig is out of business, any new carriers offering Airpass to tourists?

2. The TAM and Gol airlines' website allow ticket purchase online. However, seems like they need a certain Brasilian ID (something like the SSN in US). Anyone of you (non Brazilian) who purchase ticket online without having to put in the SSN#?

3. Which is cheaper? Purchase ticket at the airport or online?

4. Which is cheaper? Advance 21 days purchase or Purchase at the airport and fly on the same day? Sounds like a dumb question but in the past, I have found 14-21 days advance purchase is the same fare as fly on the same day.

Thanks a lot.Johan: Try the TAM website (http://www.tam.com.br/b2c/jsp/default.jhtml?adPagina=162&adArtigo=9611)

They do offer Brazilian airpass. I bought a ticket with them last year, but had to call the office here in the US since their website only takes Brazilian credit cards.

Good luck!

Devil Hunter
07-11-07, 15:24
Hi Guys,

Next month I will be in SP for a week. Can you guys suggest which other club I can visit than Cafe Photo? I have been cpl of times to Cafe Photo and like quality of girls but I wanna try another club with same quality.

Thx

Genghis Khan
07-11-07, 20:45
Hi Guys,

Next month I will be in SP for a week. Can you guys suggest which other club I can visit than Cafe Photo? I have been cpl of times to Cafe Photo and like quality of girls but I wanna try another club with same quality.

Thx

I would suggest Bahamas, Garden Club or W.E.

GK

TheNoop
07-11-07, 22:34
Hello Gents!
It has been a long time but I am finally getting to return to SP. My agent is wanting to put me up in the Melia Comfort Berrini Hotel. Has any one heard of this place? Is it close to anything??? Any and all advice is greatly appreciated!
Thenoop

Bambino
07-12-07, 05:01
My personal fave is Bomboa!

But I don't have experience with the others mentioned.

I leave in the morning, and plan to check out W.E. straight away. It gets awesome comments here.

Vatel69
07-12-07, 08:43
Hey let me know when you will be in town.
I will be in SP from the 8th to the 12th.
cheers,


Hi Guys,

Next month I will be in SP for a week. Can you guys suggest which other club I can visit than Cafe Photo? I have been cpl of times to Cafe Photo and like quality of girls but I wanna try another club with same quality.

Thx

Tommy America
07-12-07, 18:11
I'm headed to Sao Paolo next month for one week on business. This is my first ever trip to Brazil and I have been informed I will be staying in Alphaville at the Quality Suite hotel. I did a search on the board and only found one hit from 2002(!). Can anyone offer any info about the area regarding how girl-friendly this hotel is and the opportuniuties available to partake in our hobby in this area?

Much thanks in advance!!Alphaville is about an hour in "average traffic" from the center of most things in Sao Paulo --- west of Sao Paulo I believe. Unless you are very fluent in Portuguese, you will likely not find much in Alphaville. Traveling to SP at night would not be too unreasonable, but I would make sure I had a private driver (or a taxi chartered by the hotel) to go back and forth.

Monger X
07-12-07, 21:53
Thanks Tommy! No I'm not fluent in Portuguese but was hoping the bellmen at the hotel would be able to help me out (for a tip of course). Someone here said it is 30 km west of SP. Geez 18 miles in an hour of "average" traffic sounds like L.A.!! LOL I read on another forum that $120R would be an appropriate amount to keep a driver for about 4 hours..is that accurate?


Alphaville is about an hour in "average traffic" from the center of most things in Sao Paulo --- west of Sao Paulo I believe. Unless you are very fluent in Portuguese, you will likely not find much in Alphaville. Traveling to SP at night would not be too unreasonable, but I would make sure I had a private driver (or a taxi chartered by the hotel) to go back and forth.

Tommy America
07-14-07, 01:34
Thanks Tommy! No I'm not fluent in Portuguese but was hoping the bellmen at the hotel would be able to help me out (for a tip of course). Someone here said it is 30 km west of SP. Geez 18 miles in an hour of "average" traffic sounds like L.A.!! LOL I read on another forum that $120R would be an appropriate amount to keep a driver for about 4 hours..is that accurate?Sounds reasonable. Again, the hotel should be able to set you up with what you need.

Scotch
07-18-07, 15:06
TAM had a big Airline crash on the Runway killing over 200 it hit a TAM building at SP airport Tuesday 17, 2007.

Tigers787
07-18-07, 16:56
Very sad day yesterday for the families of the ones past away on that horrible airline disaster in SP airport. At least to me it looks like another pilot error. Combination of bad weather and short runway we have a major problem if the pilot is new.

Same kind of accident happened in Burbank airport many years back. Southwest overshot the runway and ended up on Hollywood way 20 feet away from chevron gas station.

Take care everybody,

Tiger

Monger X
07-18-07, 20:18
TAM had a big Airline crash on the Runway killing over 200 it hit a TAM building at SP airport Tuesday 17, 2007.Just tell me they don't use that runway for 757's and 767's.

RexG
07-19-07, 17:22
I thought that the CNN coverage of the TAM accident was a bit over the top; especially when it said, in describing CGH, "imagine an airport in Central Park". (Chicago Midway might have been a more apt comparison.) And I thought CNN was wildly wrong when it reported that Congonhas was the busiest airport in Brazil and, indeed, all of South America. But I was mistaken. I was stunned to find out that this tiny airport is, in fact, the busiest airport in Brazil for passenger traffic.

Jonathan76
07-20-07, 15:03
What I didn't know is that TAM ranks as the world's worst airline.

Read here:

http://www.slate.com/id/2170727?gt1=10238

Timi Soara
07-21-07, 06:54
Is Love Story still a " Story"? Is it as good as it used to be? Is there something else that has replaced Love Story? Appreciate any input.

BionicMan
07-22-07, 08:38
Have been experiencing on repeated basis a Clinica with very good results.

Some of those girls are really 9's and I was wondering whether there is a chance to take them out after their working hours or even book them for a few evenings (and nights).

The clinica usually closed at 9.30/10pm: will the girls still be willing to add more pri vate working hours?

My portuguese speaking is working but limited, so if any of you had the opportunity to get one of those ML for private, leet me know. This will save quite some "difficult" conversation to explain what I am about and then that is not in the menu!

Bimbo Boy
07-22-07, 13:27
What I didn't know is that TAM ranks as the world's worst airline.
Read here:
http://www.slate.com/id/2170727?gt1=10238
Not true. The Slate article is just one unhappy traveller bitching out. That doesn't mean that TAM is a bad airline. I f have been flying with them for a long time, and only just recently has the situation been awful, because of the recent traffic control problems. On the contrary, their staff has always been very pleasant and nice, as opposed to Lufthansa, Air France, British Airways, etc.

Bambino
07-24-07, 19:49
The whole thing has been a little unsettling for me.

I arrived july 13th. and was staying at the Sonesta (on Av. Iberipuera. 4 blocks from Shopping Ibiripuera; in Moema). I just wanted to get the feel of another neighborhood.

You see flights coming and going right over your head.

I cancelled my plans for Fortaleza the day before the crash. And I would have returned yesterday. ALL flights are now cancelled from Congonhas. And it is playing hell with cancellations all over the country.

60% of flights were cancelled from Porto Alegre yest.
I´ve heard lots. But what seems to be a big problem is that the military and civil branches share and overlap many responsibilities. And there is animosity between them. Not to mention communications issues.

A flight from the US had to return yesterday because when he entered brazilian airspace (zone 4, in the north west|). he lost all tower contact. Apparently he announced to the cabin that in 30 yrs., he has never been in such a position.

And the kicker, it´s been raining, and the other side of the same runway as the crash is experiencing a land/mud slide as we speak. The firemen and engineers are all out there oogling the slide.

BTW The Sonesta was 63USD per night if paid in advance, no refund. It is clean, has a hip bar/restaurant. And the rooms are clean and modern. Sliding door balconies. However, it was cold. No heating. No significant amenities. The business ctr. is only avail. during the week.

I moved to the Pestana. It´s much better positioned to everything. Of course Gaugin, Photo, and clinica Kin are close.

Bambino
07-24-07, 20:02
The Pestana is a solid 4 star hotel (so was the Sonesta, but this a step up; but somehow still not a 5 star).

It´s in Jardines, at the end next to Paraiso. Much more accessable to Centro and all else. Although only 4 blocks from Paulista, it´s a butt busting climb. And I did it yest. at night. I found it a bit intimidating. I won´t do it again at night.

Parque Ibiripuera ia a 5-6 block walk, downhill. You end up at the lagoa. Opposite end of the park from the modern art museum (Bienal). It´s a bit too much of a walk all the way around, so I took a short cab. Be sure to check out all 4 or 5 museums on the site. Don´t go on the weekend. It´s packed, with lines. Not during the week.

I think I will stay in Jardines nextime, but closer to the other end (near Agusta). I have been pleased with the Estanplaza in the past (on al. Jau, between Pamplona e Campinas).

Excellent Samba club on Angelica (#2333). It´s a bit "yuppy", but fun.

Bambino
07-24-07, 20:14
I can´t believe I´ve been here 7 times and have never been to Kilt. I got involved at Vagão once, before making it next door to Kilt.

Kilt is freakin unbelievable. MANY 9´s and some 10´s. Plenty of 8´s. a table. 30R for general admittance. Drinks v. reasonable.

I met a guy from NY (photographer) who has moved here for 4-6 mos. He is photographing the girls and fucking everything in site. He is so spoiled that the one girl he had sights on hooked up with another guy. He just couldn´t do anything else. There is just so much here. I left with this gal that was so fucking beautiful, it made it hard for me psycologically! I´m not kidding. And I´ve been at this for about 20 yrs. It hasn´t happened before. She came back the next afternoon. $250 BRL each 90 min. (my photographer says normal is more like 200 for TLN).

Met a Swiss dude. We met at a couple places. He had never been to Photo. I had plans at Bomboa. He came later to meet me. He said thte girls at Photo are taalking 500-700 BRL and not necesssarily for the whole night.
I still haven´t been to Photo. He said the eye candy was awesome, but I just don´t think I have to go to those economic lengths for awesome....

Bambino
07-24-07, 20:25
When I was still in Moema, at the Sonesta, I took a trip to the "hinterland". A place spoken well of on 2 of the brizilian forums.

I found it similar to Kin (the ONE time I´ve been there). Girls were 5-7´s. Oral covered. Very good sex.

In general, I just don´t think the clinicas are for me. I hate throwing a plastic mat onto the floor for sex.

I have heard the Palms is unique among the Clinicas.

I am going to blow off my friend and his wife for a late lunch, and check it out today. Hell, I´ll see them again before I go. And I have to remember the "Prime Initiative"...in the words of some famous monger here whose name escapes me ..."to fuck until your prostate hurts!".

As much fun as I´m having , I´m already dreading coming home in 5 days...

Bambino
07-24-07, 20:28
I finally found out that those born in the city of Sao Paulo are "Paulistanos", those born in the STATE of SP are "Paulistas".

Those born in Rio proper are "Cariocas", those born in the STATE of Rio are "Fluminense"...

And Botafogo is kicking everyones ass at the moment.

Bambino
07-24-07, 20:37
Went there night # 2, in the early afternoon day 5, and did 3 "rounds" there last night.

They open at 2 pm. There is a very laid back attitude then. The "club" area is closed. And there are about 10-15 garotas milling about. All in pretty nice spirits. I did the first "dupla" I have done in a year, with these 2 Bahianas. It was a life altering experience. I have to say; although I totally dig the "Gaucha" thing, I find them to be routinely more "reserved". It´s like the further north you go, the hotter the girls are. (but I totally fucked "Fergie" last night).

Last night was amazing. The management is friendly, the girls are not pushy, the management tells them to not go around chewing gum. The rooms upstairs are quite nice.

Bambino
07-24-07, 20:43
Went there night #1

The garotas are mostly 7´s to 9´s. The energy is not so good. It was like that last yr. also. The girls will ask 500 BRL. I finally setteled on 300 (considering it a mistake). I had to be firm about not doing her AND her hot Gaucha friend. Too expensive for me, on a first night.

She was actually quite worth the time. A 6 foot morena, with the most beautiful face, green eyes (real ones) and a bunda that cannot be described in words (Tania, is her name). Not too big, nice shape, a bit of a "bubble" thing happening...(both gave numbers and offered a hotel visit).

Bambino
07-24-07, 20:56
I last went to Mellinium 4 yrs. ago. I also went there 12 mos. ago. I don´t remember anything spectacular about the sex I had, but it is fun to be in a straight-up disco/club scene. It´s sorta the "Help " of Sao Paulo (perhaps a half step up.

The girls are very young, and are playing all kinds of games.

My first choice; I said Oi, we chatted a moment, I offered her a drink, and before I knew it, I was at a table out next to the pool with her ugly friend. They proceed to order food and champaigne. NOT THIS motherfucker!!!, I say to myself.

I went to the speak with the Garçon, and asked what exactly I am paying for. He said "everything" ;eventhough the girls gave their "red cards" and I gave my "black card".

I told him to cancel everything immediately. I had to speak with the manager too.

So, I left my cigs and lighter on the table and went back into the club. I eventually found an unspectacular sweetie (she is moroccan and indian; totally beautiful, with a hard, curvy body) to salvage the night.

There was an hour wait for a room (although the rooms are nice). She was good (+camisinha), but a bit young and silly.

Upon checkout, I checked the bill, and the food and champaigne were still on the bill. Again, I protested and made the manager take the charges off. Of course I was surprisisngly professional and matter of fact about it. There wasn´t much he could do.

I think the girl got a talking to. My buddy also has a very unspectacular time in the cabine, after spending a couple hrs. and drinks on a hottie.

Bambino
07-24-07, 21:00
It just starts too late for me. It´s across from Kilt. It seems many of the garotas from the neighboring clubs go there from 2-5 am.

Tommy America
07-24-07, 22:50
It just starts too late for me. It´s across from Kilt. It seems many of the garotas from the neighboring clubs go there from 2-5 am.The club across from Kilt is "My Love" (IMHO, quite a step below Kilt, Ocean, or most of the other son the same street)..."Love Story" is several blocks away on Rua Araujo (as I recall). I was there in June and it was still going strong, but do not bother showing up before 3:00AM.

Msands
07-28-07, 22:07
Finally! I'll get to see SP. I have 2 'free' nites. Sat Aug 4th and the following Wed. Staying at the Hyatt and no Portuguese skills, but fluent in Spanish.

So, here are my questions for the Sampa sages out there:

1. Based on location, good places to go on Sat and Wed nites without being in a cab for 3 hrs (30 mins max?). I've heard of club foto, gaugin, and kilt. Not on a tight budget, but not going stupid either. Suggestions?

2. What about a good club to meet local hotties (late 20s/early 30s)? I love to meet women from other countries, even if it's harmless flirting without hooking up. Is Spanish prevalent enough to get by? Maybe an argentina hangout?

3. I would like to see some of the city in the daytime. Any must do's? Not big on museums, would rather see locals in their element (street markets, festivals, live music, etc)

Any advice welcome!

Thanks for your time!

Bambino
07-31-07, 13:26
I just got back yesterday. I was in SP for 18 days. My 7th. time there, and my Portugese is essentially fluent by now.

It's been 4 years, now, of this relationship with Brazil. I think I finally have a good feel of many of the significant spots spoken of here on the forum, as well as on gpguia and nossoforum.


Spanish will help. My first trip (to Rio) I only spoke Spanish. It didn't help quite as much as I had hoped. Thats why I went for Portugese. But I find that many more of the gals in SP speak Spanish than in Rio. As a matter of fact, at least 5 times this trip, I was hanging with a garota who asked if I spoke Spanish. Many of them go to Spain to work for a few months at a time. So I think they want to practice.

I never made it to Cafe Gaugin. It is very well spoken of here. I was staying at the Sonesta Hotel (on Ave. Iberipuera, in Moema). Quite close to where you will be, on Ave. das Nacoes Unidas. It opens at 8 pm. But I never made it. It is in Moema, so a good bet for you to try.

I would avoid Cafe Photo. I have never been. I am aware thaat the garotas there are quite hot. But my buddy went there one night (while I went to Millenium) and he called me from there saying they are all asking at least 500 BRL for an hr. or two. I have heard other accounts of them asking 600 or 700 also. If you want to check it, please report back. But my Swiss buddy, who is loaded, left.I think Photo is also in the Moema area.

The best "clinica", IMHO is The Palms. All the other clinicas I have been to have a good selection of 6's, 7's, and maybe an 8. (Clinica Kin, and Assahi, in Morumbi, and one other that I forget) But they all have massage tables; the mat goes onto the floor, and there you go. The Palms had the hottest gals I have seen in any clinica (all at least 8 or 9's), and the rooms are awesome. Huge showers, etc. The guy who is sort of the "host" makes sure you get a good idea of the personalities of the girls in the "book". I don't think you can go wrong there. I believe the Palms is open by mid-afternoon. It is not crazy expensive. An excellent value.

I have been to Millenium 3 times over the years. I won't go again. I will be posting more about my time there, as well as another friend's. It's a big club, sorta like a "disco". But there is little or no "quality control" of the gals by management. The gals there are much younger, and are playing typical 20 something games. I have had ok times there before. But I think I was just "fresh" at the time. So with little time, don't waste it there. Also, it's up in Aclimacao (about a 20-30 min ride from you).

Millenium has a sister club called Connection (in Vila Olimpia. The same deal, and further away).

I would suggest STRONGLY, that you get to know Bomboa. It's on the other side of "Jardines" from you. But don't let distance get between you and there! It is one of my 2 favorites now. It is open during the day (at 2 pm). The larger area opens at 5 pm, with a live band (very good), a Sushi bar, and a full menu. The gals are 7-9.5. They are consistently high quality time. The management is very involved with your having a good time. Staff is v. friendly. And the gals aren't too aggressive. They all asked 300 at first, and I always had my counter of 250 BRL accepted. The rooms are nice. Open till 4.

I will chime in more soon; but my other STRONG suggestion is Kilt. It is in Centro ( a 20-30 min drive for you) longer in the killer rush hour traffic. It doesn't open until 10. But the girls are 7-9.5. The energy is great. The gals a re a bit more "mercenary", but I had two very good experiences there. One came over to the hotel a couple times ( by that time I had moved to the Pestana Hotel in Jardines. A much better location to everything). They have rooms on site, but I hear they suck. The option most choose, is to take out. My buddy consistently gets 200 there. I got 250 BRL. And it was worth it.

Kilt also has these wild "sex shows" op on stage. That's why it's called "Kilt Shows".

All these places are in a little paperback booklet you get at Reception. The back section has it all. But you can get all the info you need here. (locations and numbers). But most of the cab drivers posted at your hotel should know all these.

DO NOT let of the cabbies steer you to any other destination, no matter how good they say it is.

And by all means STAY AWAY from a club called Romanza. It is the biggest rip off in the city.

OH, I've got some good things to say about Bahamas also, but I gotta get into bed...

Almotu
07-31-07, 14:00
Bambino, could you update about this place? Do the girls come out for a meet and greet or is it just the photo book? The payment is $R130 for the massage and then you have to negotiate separately for FS with the girl? Usually $R100 to $R150 that you pay the girl in the cabine? Are you saying that they have full beds instead of the usual mat on the floor?

Thanks for sharing. I was in Sao Paulo at the end of May and I can tell you that Connection Club was well worth my visit. The cab ride is killer though $R50 each way but there is a bus that stops right across the street if you are adventurous enough. I believe you pay $R240 for a 45min session with one girl and the entrance fee is included. I know they have the same owner as Cafe Millenium but the atmosphere at Connection was a cross between Bomboa and Bahamas. The rooms are very nice, just like Millenium. Like you, I liked Bomboa but the entrance fee now is like $R180, right? . . . so with a session you are spending $R330-$R380.

Msands
07-31-07, 22:29
Bambino, thanks for the excellent post! Appreciate your sharing the wealth.

Sounds like Kilt, Bomboa and Bahamas are your faves. Is there a best time you recommend to getting there on a Sat or Wed nite? Also, what are the dress codes in these places, are nice jeans OK?

As for regular bars, I've read O'Malleys and All Blacks may be good bets. Thoughts?

As for dumb questions, are ATMs with US networks pretty common? I heard travelers checks are no bueno.

Obrigado!

Routard
08-01-07, 04:49
Coming from the Rio thread:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=626841&postcount=4052

Next morning I took my TAM plane to Sao Paulo Congonhas. I guess few people have witnessed major airplane crash, firemen where still trying to control the fire when I landed. Here some pictures of the crash scene I can’t share with anybody else as I was not supposed to be in Brazil. Yes, this plane crash had shocked me not only because I have witnessed it and because I landed in the same airport with the same airline, but because nobody was aware of my trip in Brazil, except you guys on the board.

I was supposed to stay only one night in Sao Paulo, I had no time to get myself a complete idea of the scene. Sao Paulo is huge, so I decided to simply try the best club. Most people would rate Photo to be the best and most expensive club in Sao Paulo. Unfortunately, this club has no rooms on site which makes it not very convenient. So I decided to go for the next greatest club Bahamas. I discovered that this club was right next the airport. It looked convenient, but I realized the club was only at 200m from the crash area. This was weird, going to a brothel to have fun while there are 200 people still buried in a major crash at only 200m! I walked along the crash scene towards Bahamas. All the international press was on site, I tried to avoid the cameras, didn’t want to appear on TV while I was supposed to be thousands of km from Sao Paulo. I could easily find Bahamas and entered.

Bahamas Rua Dos Chanés 571 www.cyberbahamas.com.br Opens daily from 14H00 till 2H00. Entrance is 121R, room is 99R, and the girl’s fee is not fixed, between 400 to 600R. I got the usual explanation and a number for my account. I was looking for the usual locker’s key when I remembered I was not in a Terma anymore. People keep their clothes on. Fortunately I was enough dressed for this place. This is the most upscale club of Brazil, all the stars come here. It’s all but wood, marble, stones and plants, waterfall, pool, staff in smoking and guest mostly Brazilian businessmen in suits and ties. The upscale facilities leave the German top FKK for dead. The girls are probably one of the most amazing line-up I have ever seen in my life, and I did the best clubs around the world. I guess the upscale atmosphere, the sexy outfits helps to see them more beautiful, but still. About 60 to 80 girls all very beautiful, most blondes. Entrance is worth only to look at the line-up. On the wall, there are press copies of articles about Bahamas, pictures of the most famous guests like Mike Tyson together with Oscar the manager of Bahamas. A few copies of the local Playboy with Bahamas girls as playmate of the month. There is also a funny list of couples having met each other in Bahamas and are now married. I was intrigued by two girls in front of a camera and laptop. Yes, Bahamas is on Internet and you can watch life the girls on their pay site. I noticed only after a while that there was also an area downstairs with sauna and relax room to watch TV.

It’s hard to make up any choice. Louisa approached me. She is easy to recognize, she looks just like Salma Hayek in her red dress. She speaks fluent Spanish and has exactly the dynamic attitude of Salam Hayek, I was bluffed. We discussed for a while, she speaks very fast and can’t stay on the same place. She went to the pool table, took a stick, watched at me straight in my eyes, firmly standing on her two feet spread and defied me for a game. If I win, I could have her for free, if she wins I had to go to the room at her price. I nearly felt myself as in a movie. Deal! A few people were following the game. She fought like a lion, which is her sign by the way. But I was a gentleman, so I let her win. Kidding of course, she simply plays way better than I do. She enjoyed her victory, took my hand and walked with me proudly on her high heels with her prey towards the ATM downstairs. I entered my Credit Card, did my secret code and let her type her amount. Yes, guys, all this is true, and I knew I was Brazil’s most expensive club, so she could have killed me. But she did not, she entered 400R. She laughed when she watched my face, how grateful I was she “only” robbed me of 400R. It was still the most expensive fuck of my mongering career, but what the hell. I was with Salam Hayek in the most upscale club of Brazil, things just couldn’t go wrong.

Well, it went actually. I was too confident and let her take the leadership. She did it on her way, definitely not my style. She was not much into kissing and tenderness, more a PSE. Condom went on very soon. She asked me to fuck her hard and she chose the positions she liked. When I tried to do it on my way, she answered: “Don’t you want me to come?”. Her favorite position was doggy style. It allowed her to stimulate easily her clito with her hand. She asked me to fuck harder and harder. The b.i.t.c.h. was indeed just looking for her own pleasure. I felt her becoming wetter and wetter and she had her orgasm very quickly. There was no faking, her pussy was simply so wet I just couldn’t feel anything anymore. I had lost all lust, and she asked me what was wrong. She offered me to finish by hand. I wasn’t into having a next session in this expensive club, so I let her do. But this was the very first time a girl finished me by hand, I found it so embarrassing. I didn’t say very much anymore, and she noticed it. She asked if there was anything wrong. I’m pretty sure she intentionally didn’t try to give bad service, it’s just her style and personality. Maybe Salma Hayek isn’t simply that good in bed.

I took a last drink and leaved the club disappointed, with a last surprise, the bill. There where another 400R for the club. Everything is expensive here, the drinks are en times higher than in an average Rio Terma and even the pool is additional. Time to go back to my hotel room as I had an early morning flight to Bogotá.

Next in the Bogota thread:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=626851&postcount=1005

Euro100
08-02-07, 11:27
Holy shit, Routard! When you landed right after the crash of the other plane, did you ever think "This could have been my plane!"? I am glad you got into and out of Sampa safely. I was just there last month, and it never occurred to me that this was such an unsafe airport.

Bahamas sounds like a lot of fun. I'll have to give it a try next time.

BTW, I love your style of chain-linking reports in different cities and countries. Perhaps I will shamelessly copy that style element next time I come down to Brazil and file reports.

Off Road
08-02-07, 20:19
Bambino, thanks for the excellent post! Appreciate your sharing the wealth.

Sounds like Kilt, Bomboa and Bahamas are your faves. Is there a best time you recommend to getting there on a Sat or Wed nite? Also, what are the dress codes in these places, are nice jeans OK?

As for regular bars, I've read O'Malleys and All Blacks may be good bets. Thoughts?

As for dumb questions, are ATMs with US networks pretty common? I heard travelers checks are no bueno.

Obrigado!
Kilt is one of my favorites, smaller, older club. Bahamas is newer more girls and more upscale.
O'Malleys is a nice Irish Pub, not too many working girls there, when I have been there.
Some ATMs are connected. CitiBank, Bradesco are the ones I use.

Java Man
08-04-07, 17:58
Oglobo online reporting that Boate Bahamas was closed by the city for being a house of prostitution, exploitation of prostitution, internal traffic of people, (women coming from other states to work in prostitution), and forming of a prostitution group.
Looks like the owner of Bahamas, Oscar Marone, put his foot in his mouth by declaring on TV that Bahamas was a luxury house of prostitution. Pissed off city hall, he did.

http://oglobo.globo.com/sp/mat/2007/08/03/297101945.asp

Sui Generis
08-05-07, 05:44
Oglobo online reporting that Boate Bahamas was closed by the city for being a house of prostitution, exploitation of prostitution, internal traffic of people, (women coming from other states to work in prostitution), and forming of a prostitution group.
Looks like the owner of Bahamas, Oscar Marone, put his foot in his mouth by declaring on TV that Bahamas was a luxury house of prostitution. Pissed off city hall, he did.

http://oglobo.globo.com/sp/mat/2007/08/03/297101945.asp

You should also know that Marone is also the owner, among other things, of the Queen's Hotel. This hotel is located just besides the TAM building that made the headlines a couple of weeks ago when a TAM plane crashed down in Congonhas.

http://noticias.terra.com.br/brasil/int...06,00.html

http://terratv.terra.com.br/templates/c...tid=177724

Voyajer1
08-06-07, 01:25
Here is the translated version of the Noticias Terra about the closing of Bahamas:
Boate where it would have “luxury prostitution” is closed (3 Aug 07)

The subprefeitura of Vila Mariana sealed up, in the end of the morning of today, boate Bahamas, that is in the street of the Chanés, Moema, the south zone of São Paulo. Boate was interdicted because the proprietor would have said in a TV program that in the place has “luxury prostitution”.
” It sees the video
” vc reporter: it orders photos and notice
In accordance with the subprefeitura, the owner of boate, Oscar Marone Son, would have affirmed that “yes, it is luxury prostitution yes, we do not go to be hypocritical, does not go to be false”, in last day 31, the program Periodical of the Night of the TV Bandeirantes.
According to subprefeitura, boate has the Term of Consultation of Funcionamento (TCF) that it permits it for the activity of service and lodging (hotel), restaurant and boate, but, in the case, the activity “it marries of luxury prostitution”, defined for the owner of the place, is not permitted by the city hall.
Beyond purpose shunting line the house also will be closed for the practical one of the pimpery crime (prostitution), according to Brazilian Criminal Code.
The Subprefeito of Vila Mariana, Fabio Lepique, determined the cancellation of the process of license of activity of boate and the immediate interdiction of the place.



You should also know that Marone is also the owner, among other things, of the Queen's Hotel. This hotel is located just besides the TAM building that made the headlines a couple of weeks ago when a TAM plane crashed down in Congonhas.

http://noticias.terra.com.br/brasil/int...06,00.html

http://terratv.terra.com.br/templates/c...tid=177724

Java Man
08-06-07, 05:48
That translation sounds, and looks like, one of those nonsensical spam e-mails I get. LOL

Bambino
08-06-07, 14:03
I guess you already had your night of the 4th.
But if you are still there;

You were asking about non-mongering things to do. I recommend a club called Tom Jazz. They have excellent live music. Many hotties, of the middle/upper class type. It's in Higienopolis (just north of Ave. Paulista, about 2-3 blocks, on Ave. Angelica).

I'm a bit pissed I didn't have more time. One honey I met at Bomboa was going to take me to some clubs that would be better for actually meeting local gals than Tom Jazz. But my "furlow" from "Sex Prison" had come to an end...

Other suggestions (from a VERY reliable source:

Hip Hop: tuesdays. 765 Rua Agusta , Consolacao (3231-3705
"Urbano": 614 Rua Cardeal Arcoverde , Pinheros (3562-4535)
"Black Music": best on mondays. "Mood Club" 1109 Rua Teodoro Sampaio, Pinheros.(3060-9010) But for some reason my notes say "fri. and Sat. only".

Also, for arts (and not just museums, since you said you weren't interested) I would go to SESC at the far end of Paulista (I think the address is 112), at the end near Brigadero Luis Antonio. Lots of events from dance to all sorts of music (as well as fine arts).

Bambino
08-06-07, 14:09
Thanks for the translation. Sorry you were criticized by another member. But I read the article, and you did provide the "jist" of it.

It's a shame too.

I may have given the impression I didn't like Bahamas that much. In fact I think it's the best bet for a slight move "upscale". The girls do ask like 500 (which I immediately counter with 400). But the re is consisstency of quality. Unfortunately (as any monger will learn) money does not always paralell quality.

I would certainly go back to Bahamas before Foto.

And I'm not too worried. I bet Bahamas is back up and running within 4 months. The guy just needs to let this dust settle, and pay off the right people.

Bambino
08-06-07, 14:22
Here is a picture of the SESC on Paulista. And the installation art piece outside the entrance.

I'm not sure if I remember what SESC stands for. But the location in Jardines had Blue Man Group when I was there last week.

Bambino
08-06-07, 14:31
Saudades...

Genghis Khan
08-06-07, 17:00
I would not take the closing of Bahamas too seriously. Bahamas has been closed several times in the past too and the owner has even been sent to jail for storing illegal weapons inside Bahamas.

This guy knows how to make a deal with the police, so he has always managed to keep out of jail and keep Bahamas open.

I am sure Bahamas will reopen very soon.

GK

Java Man
08-06-07, 17:02
My post was tongue in cheek, not a criticism, to demonstrated the inaccuracy of online translation programs.

Now that I have more time, allow me to translate the Oglobo report:

"Subprefeitura da Vila Mariana empareda a boate Bahamas

Publicada em 03/08/2007 às 18h23m
O Globo Online

SÃO PAULO - A Subprefeitura de Vila Mariana lacrou a boate Bahamas, localizada na Rua dos Chanés, número 571, no Campo Belo, zona sul de São
Paulo. A boate foi emparedada por homens da subprefeitura de Vila Mariana, da Guarda Civil Metropolitana e da pm. O promotor de Justiça José Carlos Blat ofereceu denúncia à Justiça contra o proprietário Oscar Marone. As acusações são de formação de quadrilha, facilitação à prostituição, exploração de casa de prostituição e tráfico interno de pessoas (vêem de outros estados para trabalhar na prostituição). A denúncia foi encaminhada à 5ª Vara Criminal e será apreciada pelo juiz Edson Aparecido Brandão.

Para lacrar a boate, a Prefeitura de São Paulo alegou que, no dia 31, em matéria veiculada na TV, Oscar Marone, admitiu que o Bahamas é uma casa de prostituição. Segundo transcrição da fita, Marone diz: "Sim, é prostituição de luxo sim, não vamos ser hipócritas, não vamos ser falsos". A Prefeitura alega que desconhecia os fins comerciais da boate, apesar do site do Bahamas deixar explícito o ramo de atividade da casa.

De acordo com a Prefeitura, o estabelecimento tem um Termo de Consulta de Funcionamento (TCF), deferido no dia 13 de outubro de 2004, para a atividade de "Serviço de Hospedagem - Hotel - Restaurante e Boite". A atividade 'casa de prostituição de luxo' não é licenciável pela Prefeitura.

Marone também é proprietário do Oscars Hotel, que fica a 500 metros do Aeroporto de Congonhas, e teve o alvará de construção suspenso pela Prefeitura. O prédio poderá ser demolido. Além de prática de desvio de finalidade do local, o empresário pode ser condenado por crime de lenocínio, ou seja, facilitação da prostituição."

To the best of my abilities:

São Paulo - The town Hall of Vila Mariana sealed up Bahamas Nightclub, located on Chanés St, number 571, in Campo Belo, south district of São Paulo. The Nightclub was closed by men of Vila Mariana Town Hall, Metropolitan Civil Guard and the Military Police. Attorney General Jose Carlos Blat filed a Justicial Complaint against the proprietor Oscar Marone. The accusations are formation of a gang, facilitation of prostitution, operation of a house of prostitution and internal traffic of people (they came from other states to work in prostitution). The charges will be held at the 5ª Criminal Court and will be heard by Judge Edson Aparecido Brandão.

In order to close the Nightclub, São Paulo City Hall alleges that on the 31st, Oscar Marone admitted on TV that Bahamas was a House of prostitution. According to transcripts, Marone states: "Yes, it's luxury prostitution, we're not going to be hypocrites, we won't be false". City Hall states they were unaware of Bahamas activities, even though Bahamas website states the nature of the activities found there.

According to City Hall the establishment has a A Service Lodging License-Hotel, Restaurant, Nightclub, issued on Oct 13, 2004. A luxury House of Prostitution is not licensed by City Hall.

Marone also owns Oscars Hotel, which is 500 meters from Congonhas Airport, which had it's construction permit suspended. The building may be demolished. Depending on the outcome, Marone may be found guilty of Pandering or Facilitating Prostitution.

Voyajer1
08-06-07, 18:18
Thank you. Hecklers don't bother me.

Thanks for the translation. Sorry you were criticized by another member. But I read the article, and you did provide the "jist" of it.

It's a shame too.

I may have given the impression I didn't like Bahamas that much. In fact I think it's the best bet for a slight move "upscale". The girls do ask like 500 (which I immediately counter with 400). But the re is consisstency of quality. Unfortunately (as any monger will learn) money does not always paralell quality.

I would certainly go back to Bahamas before Foto.

And I'm not too worried. I bet Bahamas is back up and running within 4 months. The guy just needs to let this dust settle, and pay off the right people.

Boozer
08-07-07, 00:58
Too bad about Bahamas, I was planning to visit this Sunday (timing is everything!). I don't think Bomboa is open Sunday, but Kilt may be - any other suggestions or would I be better off trying the escort route?

Timi Soara
08-07-07, 08:15
bambino:

how much was the the room at pestana? does it have free high speed internet?

is it close to love story? is love story still good?

thanks


the whole thing has been a little unsettling for me.

i arrived july 13th. and was staying at the sonesta (on av. iberipuera. 4 blocks from shopping ibiripuera; in moema). i just wanted to get the feel of another neighborhood.

you see flights coming and going right over your head.

i cancelled my plans for fortaleza the day before the crash. and i would have returned yesterday. all flights are now cancelled from congonhas. and it is playing hell with cancellations all over the country.

60% of flights were cancelled from porto alegre yest.

i´ve heard lots. but what seems to be a big problem is that the military and civil branches share and overlap many responsibilities. and there is animosity between them. not to mention communications issues.

a flight from the us had to return yesterday because when he entered brazilian airspace (zone 4, in the north west|). he lost all tower contact. apparently he announced to the cabin that in 30 yrs., he has never been in such a position.

and the kicker, it´s been raining, and the other side of the same runway as the crash is experiencing a land/mud slide as we speak. the firemen and engineers are all out there oogling the slide.

btw the sonesta was 63usd per night if paid in advance, no refund. it is clean, has a hip bar/restaurant. and the rooms are clean and modern. sliding door balconies. however, it was cold. no heating. no significant amenities. the business ctr. is only avail. during the week.

i moved to the pestana. it´s much better positioned to everything. of course gaugin, photo, and clinica kin are close.

Timi Soara
08-07-07, 08:17
Where is The Connection Club? How far from Vila Olimpia?

Can you do "Take- Out"?

Were there a lot of "Fresh" girls?

Thanks


Bambino, could you update about this place? Do the girls come out for a meet and greet or is it just the photo book? The payment is $R130 for the massage and then you have to negotiate separately for FS with the girl? Usually $R100 to $R150 that you pay the girl in the cabine? Are you saying that they have full beds instead of the usual mat on the floor?

Thanks for sharing. I was in Sao Paulo at the end of May and I can tell you that Connection Club was well worth my visit. The cab ride is killer though $R50 each way but there is a bus that stops right across the street if you are adventurous enough. I believe you pay $R240 for a 45min session with one girl and the entrance fee is included. I know they have the same owner as Cafe Millenium but the atmosphere at Connection was a cross between Bomboa and Bahamas. The rooms are very nice, just like Millenium. Like you, I liked Bomboa but the entrance fee now is like $R180, right? . . . so with a session you are spending $R330-$R380.

Tawan
08-07-07, 12:12
Too bad about Bahamas, I was planning to visit this Sunday (timing is everything!). I don't think Bomboa is open Sunday, but Kilt may be - any other suggestions or would I be better off trying the escort route?Bahamas will probably re-open before long, once Marrone shows some respect (and increases his bribes).

But you don't want to go to Bahamas on Sunday anyway. The lineup is way different and it can feel absurdly overpriced for the talent level. Many of the prettiest girls take the weekend off - some travel back to their hometowns 1-2 hours away.

The best times to visit Bahamas are (or at least were) Tuesday through Thursday night.

Boozer
08-07-07, 21:49
Bahamas will probably re-open before long, once Marrone shows some respect (and increases his bribes).

But you don't want to go to Bahamas on Sunday anyway. The lineup is way different and it can feel absurdly overpriced for the talent level. Many of the prettiest girls take the weekend off - some travel back to their hometowns 1-2 hours away.

The best times to visit Bahamas are (or at least were) Tuesday through Thursday night.

I agree, I usually have gone to Bahamas on the 'good' nights, I've had much better luck there than Photo. It's rare I have free time on a Sunday evening, so I was going to give it a try. I'll have to work on a plan B or take a break.

I assume the Bahamas ladies will keep themselves busy at other venues like Photo or Bomboa or Kilt until Bahamas is able to reopen.

Josse
08-08-07, 17:03
Last time I did visit Sao Paulo(3-4 of months ago) I did go to Clinica Kin again.
Very friendly even if I did have to wait for 40 minutes but a nice service and some nice company from the personal did it to some pleasant 40 minutes.

First day I did go for a safe card that I have meet before Sabrina and she was fantastic as usual, nice massage and fantastic body.

Two days later I did go for Camilla and she was also very good, some more kilo on her body but a nice ass and big boobies that compensate that.

I strongly recomend Kin and will go there again for sure.

Question: do anyone know any clinica that is open on sundays?

Saludos

Peter Den
08-09-07, 04:37
Last time I did visit Sao Paulo(3-4 of months ago) I did go to Clinica Kin again.

Very friendly even if I did have to wait for 40 minutes but a nice service and some nice company from the personal did it to some pleasant 40 minutes.

First day I did go for a safe card that I have meet before Sabrina and she was fantastic as usual, nice massage and fantastic body.

Two days later I did go for Camilla and she was also very good, some more kilo on her body but a nice ass and big boobies that compensate that.

I strongly recomend Kin and will go there again for sure.

Question: do anyone know any clinica that is open on sundays?

SaludosYou can try Clinica New Tokio. Early this year, they were open on Sundays. Not sure if they are anymore. Here is their website: http://www.newtokio.com.br/index.htm

Almotu
08-09-07, 07:10
Where is The Connection Club? How far from Vila Olimpia?

Can you do "Take- Out"?

Were there a lot of "Fresh" girls?

ThanksIt was my first and only time there. You have to google search for the address but this club is in the middle of nowhere IMHO. It cost $R50 by taxi for me to get back to the Ave Paulista area. I don't think there is take-out, like Bamboa or Cafe Millenium it is not set up for take-out (at least not inexpensively . . . like Kilt, etc.) There were a lot of nice-looking, cute girls there. Since it was my first and only time there, I don't know what the turnover is like. I just remember it was Bingo night and it was a lot of fun with many local Brazilian customers and yet many GDPs were still available. Nice strip shows as well.

Jonathan76
08-10-07, 02:47
Hello all,

I depart for Sao Paolo on Sept 21 and would greatly appreciate any info on the street scene there. This topic I'm sure has been covered repeatedly here and I'm sorry to bring it up again but since I'm completely new to Brazil and have not found anything through the search engine, I'd like a fresh update if possible.

As you probably know by now, I prefer white women with a lot of mileage (mature/old) and more than a few extra pounds. Mulatto ladies are good too but my first preference is for white ladies.

One member was kind enough to inform me via PM of the central square called 'Praca da Republica'. He said that some can be found in a couple of the side streets.

Any more specific information about 'Praca' or other areas in the city would be very much appreciated, (either here on the forum or via private message)

Kind regards,

J.

Sui Generis
08-10-07, 07:07
Hello all,

I depart for Sao Paolo on Sept 21 and would greatly appreciate any info on the street scene there. This topic I'm sure has been covered repeatedly here and I'm sorry to bring it up again but since I'm completely new to Brazil and have not found anything through the search engine, I'd like a fresh update if possible.
Kind regards,

J.

Jonathan76

You will find a lot of SW around (and inside) Parque da Luz. You will find there what you are looking for : older and plumpier GDP. Most of them are what we call «vintoes» = 20 reais GDP. Expect to pay 10 reais for a nearby « hotel ».

Beware : most of them are crackheads.

Praça is probably « praça da luz »

Parque da Luz
http://www.sampa.art.br/SAOPAULO/parque%20da%20luz.htm

http://ww2.prefeitura.sp.gov.br/mapa_verde/asp/pq_luz.asp

Jonathan76
08-10-07, 14:17
Sui Generis,

Thanks very much ! That park looks nice too although I'm not happy about the possible drug use there.

What about Praca da Republica ?

I'll be spending 9 days in SP and then I'm off to Barcelona for another 6 days.

Unfortunately, when I file my detailed report it will most likely not interest any of you since most everyone here seems to like only young and slender women.

I'm also preparing my camera for all of those moderately plump mothers I hope to find.

One more question : Would it be inappropriate to ask a taxi driver about other street scene areas in the city ?

Thanks,

J.

Sui Generis
08-11-07, 10:31
Sui Generis,

Thanks very much ! That park looks nice too although I'm not happy about the possible drug use there.

What about Praca da Republica ?

I'll be spending 9 days in SP and then I'm off to Barcelona for another 6 days.

Unfortunately, when I file my detailed report it will most likely not interest any of you since most everyone here seems to like only young and slender women.

I'm also preparing my camera for all of those moderately plump mothers I hope to find.

One more question : Would it be inappropriate to ask a taxi driver about other street scene areas in the city ?

Thanks,

J.

There’s a lot of SW working on Rua Augusta, Centro, especially between Caio Prado and Avenida Paulista. The activity usually starts around 10 pm and it can last until 4am or 5am.

There’s also some activity on rua Bela Cintra, rua Fernando Albuquerque, rua Martins Fontes. Another good location is the rua Nestor Pestana, near the clubs and the “boates”.

Habitually the girls bring their « preys » to the hotel Destak, 46 rua Haddock Lobo, Itamar, Grant’s, Savoy Palace, Metropolis, Turim

Other famous spots, not too far from the aforementioned sites, are Praça Paissandu, Santa Efigenia, Praça do Correio, Anhangabú.

Praça da República is close (almost central) to all these districts in São Paulo.

A little off centro, there’s also SW activity on avenida Indianópolis, on Santa Eulália and, finally, near the Jockey Club. On the other side of the Pinheiros river, there’s activity on Butantã.

It’s always risky to venture in these districts at night and the SWs are, generally, below average.

In my humble opinion, there’s nothing good to find there.

Jonathan76
08-11-07, 16:43
Sui Generis,

Thanks.

In 2002/2003 I visited 2 red-light streets and never felt unsafe, day or night : Madrid's Calle Montado in the center just off the Gran Via thoroughfare and Calle Ramon in Barcelona, a few blocks behind the Teatro Liceu.

But yes, I've heard that SP is different.

Btw, I came across the following yesterday in a tourism guide online:

"In SP there are lots of prostitutes, openly plying their trade. Prostitutes in São Paulo are often young and extremely good looking, but those in Parque da Luz are older and have seen better days. I suspect their clients are single Northeasterners with little money to spend who cannot be choosy....."

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If the ladies on the streets you listed are not at least 45 then I will look elsewhere.

There are 3 attributes in women that completely turn me off: slenderness of body, thinness in face and, to a lesser extent, youth.

Of course, fatness is ugly too.

But it's that lovely shape/figure that we call moderate to normal plumpness in the RIGHT places. Some rolls in the belly. Normal size waist but wide hips and thighs, and most important a wide, meaty ass that protrudes and jiggles and sways, topped off with some dimples and cellulite.

Heaven.

Thanks again and I hope to god that I find this type in SP.

J.

Sui Generis
08-12-07, 05:14
Sui Generis,

Thanks.


but those in Parque da Luz are older and have seen better days.

But it's that lovely shape/figure that we call moderate to normal plumpness in the RIGHT places. Some rolls in the belly. Normal size waist but wide hips and thighs, and most important a wide, meaty ass that protrudes and jiggles and sways, topped off with some dimples and cellulite.

Thanks again and I hope to god that I find this type in SP.

J.


Jonathan76,

There's a picture of a SW working in Parque da Luz. See in the Photo section post No. 1690 (Bambino's picture). She seems to be plump and over 30. I'm sure you will find something in Parque da Luz.

Jonathan76
08-12-07, 12:44
Sui Generis,

Thank you.

Wow, she looks nice ! She's also very fair-skinned ! A little meatier would be better but she's still very nice.

Actually, from first impressions she appears to be quite refined. (Her bearing, etc)

Oh dear, now I have to wait over a month to arrive.

I've been working non-stop for 2 years (well come sept 18 will be exactly 2 years) without taking a single vacation. I know, it's insane, but that's what happens sometimes when you live in the New York metropolitan area.

I'm a bit worried that the streetwalkers will dwindle in number come late September/early October when most tourists have left. I don't know, I'm simply guessing since it will be autumn and quieter (?)

J.

Sui Generis
08-13-07, 15:05
I'm a bit worried that the streetwalkers will dwindle in number come late September/early October when most tourists have left. I don't know, I'm simply guessing since it will be autumn and quieter (?)

J.

Autumn? Tilt! Wrong answer...it will be spring down there.

Don't worry about the tourists thing. São Paulo is not relaly a touristic destination : no beaches, no termas....it's just a goddam big city. But I guess that you're not afraid of this metropolitan configuration since you're coming from N.Y. (By the way, hello! I'm from Montreal...just a couple of hours (8 hours by car) from the Big Apple).

If you visit Parque da Luz pay a visit to the museum (pinacoteca) and to the famous Estação da Luz (that was built by the British, if am not wrong). If you were fluent in Portuguese, I would also advise you to visit the Museu da língua portuguesa.

Don't worry there's also activity around Parque da Luz during the day time...a lot of school busses bring young - and older - children to visit the museums.

Avoid this district at night...it's called cracolandia (crackland). There's a municipal project (lead by Kassab) to revigorate this district, to «gentrify» this borrough. The same thing happen with Harlem in NY, if you remember or with 42nd street....shit...I still have found memories of this place in the late 70's and the early 80....

Have a good trip!

Hulk
08-15-07, 03:21
I sure hope this isn't a sign of the moral majority coming to Brazil. I hope this guy just forgot to payoff his friendly neighborhood cop this month. Here's the story in Portuguese for those who can read it. In a nutshell it says he was arrested for the always popular charge of racketeering and facilitating prostitution:

http://br.noticias.yahoo.com/s/14082007/25/manchetes-maroni-espera-julgamento-habeas-corpus-pelo-stj.html

Jonathan76
08-15-07, 04:39
Hey Sui Generis,


Autumn? Tilt! Wrong answer. It will be spring down there. Awesome. I forgot about this.


Don't worry about the tourists thing. São Paulo is not relaly a touristic destination: no beaches, no termas. It's just a goddam big city. But I guess that you're not afraid of this metropolitan configuration since you're coming from and. Y. (By the way, hello! I'm from Montreal. Just a couple of hours (8 hours by car) from the Big Apple). Oh really? I visited Montreal for the first time just this past May. The weekend of May 25-27. With one of my sisters and a cousin. A great city. I was surprised at just how prevalent French is there. Only one hour outside of the States and you could swear you were in France.


If you visit Parque da Luz pay a visit to the museum (pinacoteca) and to the famous Estação da Luz (that was built by the British, if am not wrong). If you were fluent in Portuguese, I would also advise you to visit the Museu da língua portuguesa. Will do, although I am fluent in Spanish only.


Don't worry there's also activity around Parque da Luz during the day time. A lot of school busses bring young. And older. Children to visit the museums.
Avoid this district at night. It's called cracolandia (crackland) I do not intend to search for street ladies at night. Instead I'll visit the porn cinemas that I've heard so much about.

Is it true that one can sit down in the theatre and have ladies walking up and down the aisle offering sexual services right on the spot, in the open, in the comfort of your seat?

I do not enjoy viewing hardcore porn (not my cup of tea). But the idea of having a woman walk up to you and offer sexual services in a public setting can really enhance the excitement and will make me want to visit every cinema.


There's a municipal project (lead by Kassab) to revigorate this district, to «gentrify» this borrough. The same thing happen with Harlem in NY, if you remember or with 42nd street. Shit. I still have found memories of this place in the late 70's and the early 80. Well I was just a kid in the late 70's but all throughout the nineties I witnessed the "Disneyfication" of those areas. It's a shame. I tell ya, I absolutely cannot stand the American attitude towards sexuality. Oh yes, they want their guns, they want their booze, they want their often dangerous sports. But sex and sexuality any way one wants it. Oh no, that's 'immoral' and we must place restrictions on that.

It is absurd that in the year 2007 prostitution is not yet decriminalized.

These are very trite questions, I know, but I just feel like saying it again

My question to the Supreme Court:

WHO the heck has the right to know which persons are engaging in private, consensual sexual behavior?

And whether or not one of them is getting paid for it?

WHO?

The whole situation is so ludicrous.


Have a great trip!

Thanks and I hope to be able to post some photos when I return.

J.

Al Zachrison
08-15-07, 13:41
Hey guys,

I am really really dying to sample some of that famous Braziliian ass but im very concerned about the safety situation in Rio, do you think Sao Paulo is a safer alternative?

Are the prices and working girls a little less then Rio?

thanks.

AL

Euro100
08-16-07, 02:19
Hey guys,

I am really really dying to sample some of that famous Braziliian ass but im very concerned about the safety situation in Rio, do you think Sao Paulo is a safer alternative?

Are the prices and working girls a little less then Rio?

thanks.

AL

Yes, Sampa is a little safer, because the favelas are not located right next to the main tourist areas, like they are in Rio.

But you pay quit e abit more on average for pussy in Sampa than Rio. In my mind Rio is definitely worth the added risk.

Rio D
08-16-07, 04:18
Jonathan76,

There is an eight storey place in SP near the Centro/República area you should visit. The address: R. Barão de Limeira, 134.

It has a wide variety of females, some are of the type you prefer. The more mature women are usually on the first floor. You can do the deed on premises, R15 for around 15 minutes, or arrange to meet them outside.

Orca11
08-16-07, 04:28
Jonathan76,

There is an eight storey place in SP near the Centro/República area you should visit. The address: R. Barão de Limeira, 134.

It has a wide variety of females, some are of the type you prefer. The more mature women are usually on the first floor. You can do the deed on premises, R15 for around 15 minutes, or arrange to meet them outside.Is this in a safe location?

Orca11
08-16-07, 04:30
Jonathan76,

There is an eight storey place in SP near the Centro/República area you should visit. The address: R. Barão de Limeira, 134.

It has a wide variety of females, some are of the type you prefer. The more mature women are usually on the first floor. You can do the deed on premises, R15 for around 15 minutes, or arrange to meet them outside.Is this place in a safe location and is it close to Jardins?

Sui Generis
08-16-07, 06:50
Is this place in a safe location and is it close to Jardins?

Not too far from Jardins....but don't expect to find there young and beautiful GP.
A brazilian hobbyist once wrote in a national forum that when you go there you must be ready to act like a « garimpeiro » : to stir a lot of mud in order to find once in a while - if you're lucky ! - a gem.

Orca11
08-16-07, 13:13
Not too far from Jardins....but don't expect to find there young and beautiful GP.

A brazilian hobbyist once wrote in a national forum that when you go there you must be ready to act like a « garimpeiro » : to stir a lot of mud in order to find once in a while - if you're lucky ! - a gem.Thanks Sui Generis. I have been reading your post and are a find purveyor of beautiful women. I am interested in meeting a real model like girl. I am not too concerned with the money. Can you recommend a good madam or anyone who I can call?

Thanks

Canuck9970
08-17-07, 03:46
I first visited Brasil in 2003. I immediately fell in love with the country. And more specifically with Brasileiras. I now am married to a Brasilian woman, conduct business there and own some property. I often see comments back and forth on this board among old hands and newbies. From my perspective:

1) Places like Bahamas and Foto are great. But very expensive relative to other readily available options in SP

2) Clinicas de massagem, combined with using the google translator to be able to read "test drive" information from the GPguia site are very good value and with proper research you will rarely be disappointed. An added bonus is the places are clean and secure

3) I would never touch a SW or even visit the down-town area. To me it is tempting fate in an already potentially dangerous city to spend time in an area that is known to have problems. That is my personal choice and not a criticism of those that like that type of scene.

4) Sao Paulo is a city of almost 20 million people. There is a very limited social safety net and as a result there is a large proportion of desperate people. They want to eat and taking what you have may help them to do that. Using simple common sense will probably ensure that you never have a problem in SP. (take taxis at night, don't walk around in areas where no people are evident, don't flash a wallet or alot of cash. I always carry a photocopy of my passport, one credit card and leave 20 or 40 Reais in cash in my front pocket that I intend to give it up if ever confronted)

5) I can get by in Portuguese now and speak French and English fluently; Language is not an issue as men and women always find a way to communicate where sex is involved. (and let's face it. It is refreshing sometimes to not have a woman turn around and say "let's talk". LOL)

To the newbies. Relax, be aware of your surroundings. And just have fun!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Sui Generis
08-17-07, 10:06
Thanks Sui Generis. I have been reading your post and are a find purveyor of beautiful women. I am interested in meeting a real model like girl. I am not too concerned with the money. Can you recommend a good madam or anyone who I can call?

Thanks

Hi Orca11

Sorry, but I don't know any madams in São Paulo. Paying R$2000 / R$ 3000 is not really my cup of tea. I concentrate my activities with freelance GDP and sometimes I like to visit privês.

There's this site advertising «coelinhas» (playmates) but I'm not sure if it's reliable. Expect maybe to be viticm of a bait'n switch.

http://www.gatas1000.com.br/nova.asp?pagina=1&qtda=12

Spazzio
08-17-07, 21:04
Did anybody know what happen`s in SP . I speak whit a woman in Milenium yeserday, She told me they wait that plces bill closed of the police. She told me taht the Fed Police are going to clean up all clubs in SP , And Clubs like Bahamas, cafè for and Millenium whit more.. will be finich in short time.

Anybody some know more about this.

Loso69
08-17-07, 21:21
Arriving...

My Lufthansa flight arrived at Guarulhos airport around 7PM on a Thursday evening. After visiting an ATM machine and a nicotine overdose, I caught the airport bus to Praça da Républica. The taxi to my hotel was my first experience with the notorious São Paulo traffic... hell on wheels!

Checking in...

Based on forum recommendations, I’d made reservations for a double room to avoid any joiner fees. When I checked into the Mercure Apartments Central Towers in Paraíso, the friendly receptionist announced that I wouldn’t have to pay the double rate unless I actually received visitors. An unexpected bonus! Of course, I actually wanted to pay the double rate. :)

Dialing...

After unpacking, I set up my laptop on the oval table and started perusing profiles of São Paulo escorts. I’d downloaded hundreds of escort pages in preparation for this trip, but didn’t have time to make my final selection.

The collection of babes on sites like M Class is simply mouth-watering. I spent a few hours admiring pictures of goddesses, while checking their reviews on GP Guia. A few girls seemed to combine amazing looks with wonderful service. But when I dialed the magic digits... the phone was disconnected. :(

I totally lost track of time... When I noticed the clock and realized the futility of trying to call an escort at this late hour, I jumped into the shower, changed my clothes and whizzed down the elevator...

Millennium

I caught a taxi to Café Millennium, which some regulars visitors consider to be the best boate in São Paulo. The cover charge is steep (100 BRL), but at least it’s consumable.

The receptionist asked me for ID. I wasn’t carrying any. She asked for a credit card. I wasn’t carrying one. When she asked me how I intended to pay, I showed her some cash. That put a smile on her face and a key card in my hand. No robe, though. And no locker!

When I walked into the boate around 1AM, the place was totally packed. Even though there were plenty of girls, they were still way outnumbered by the guys. A couple of average-looking English-speaking girls tried to latch on to me, but I shook them off and started cruising the boate, checking out the talent. The quality was high, but nothing out of the ordinary. Definitely no better than an upscale Rio termas. And, of course, all the hot babes were occupada...

Since I had to meet the minimum consumption, I went into the restaurant and ordered myself a steak dinner. After replenishing my energy levels, I walked back into the boate and positioned myself next to the stage. When I exchanged smiles with a hot dancer, she started rubbing her ass and pussy in my face. Vai, safada! When she finished her routine, we spent some time dancing together before retiring to a sofa...

Natasha was a hot dark blonde with a gorgeous face and a cute, straight and pointy nose. But her most distinguishing feature was her right pinky... which was missing. When Natasha showed me how carinhosa a Brasileira can be, I ordered her a small bottle of wine. After a while, Natasha enquired whether I was interested in in-call or take-out. She seemed to like the idea of spending the night with me...

We spent an hour chatting and exchanging sweet kisses before Natasha got to the crunch. When I enquired about her presentinha, she asked for 1000 BRL. :eek: I offered her 300 BRL, the top of the range for a ST at Millennium. I was willing to negotiate, but she wouldn’t budge. When I repeated that I wouldn’t pay 1000 BRL, Natasha got up, offered me her cheek and walked straight out...

I hooked up with another hottie. She was unwilling to come to my apartment. I fooled around with a group of girls on the dance stage. They loved to play with my pocket rocket, but didn’t fancy accompanying me home...

Around 5.30AM, I called it quits and headed for the reception area. My final attempt to convince a girl to come home with me was also unsuccessful. When I checked out, I’d just managed to pass the minimum consumption.

I did have fun at Millennium. But since I didn’t make it into the end-zone, it was still a wasted night. Most of the Millennium girls seem to be unwilling to do out-call. I wasn’t interested in fucking the girls on-site. I don’t like to take pictures with a crappy compact camera. I don’t wanna lug a bulky SLR camera around a boate either. I guess boates are not my style. If only they provided lockers, like the termas... :cool: Anyway, it was a lonely ride back to my apartment. Still, there was one bright side – my room was cheaper. :rolleyes:

Loso

Brugal8
08-17-07, 22:36
Any news about bahamas?

Last news I had the owner had gone to jail!!!!!!!!!1

Smokers Rule
08-18-07, 00:17
Am I correct in reading that the Millennium chica wanted 1000 BRL for ST? As in $500?

Voyajer1
08-18-07, 01:27
I haven't laughed this hard at a report in a long time. Thanks. Better luck next time!

Arriving...

We spent an hour chatting and exchanging sweet kisses before Natasha got to the crunch. When I enquired about her presentinha, she asked for 1000 BRL. :eek: I offered her 300 BRL, the top of the range for a ST at Millennium. I was willing to negotiate, but she wouldn’t budge. When I repeated that I wouldn’t pay 1000 BRL, Natasha got up, offered me her cheek and walked straight out...


Loso

Sui Generis
08-18-07, 08:19
did anybody know what happen`s in sp . i speak whit a woman in milenium yeserday, she told me they wait that plces bill closed of the police. she told me taht the fed police are going to clean up all clubs in sp , and clubs like bahamas, cafè for and millenium whit more.. will be finich in short time.

anybody some know more about this.

i've also heard through the grapevine the same story. in fact 17 privês, clinics, boates in the same region where bahamas was located (vila maria - moema) are under investigation. will we assist to the rise of a new whitch-hunt? the web sites of clinic cherry and abbobora are under construction. is it related to the fear of being caught as a prostitution house?

as far as i remember, a couple of years ago, there was an ongoing war between bomboa and the authorities. bomboa is still open, isn't it?

i firmly believe that the things will calm down by themselves.

Java Man
08-18-07, 09:44
When I get a little more time tomorrow I'll translate.
The gist of the article:
SP City Hall is complaining that it's impossible for them to know if a club is involved in prostitution and that they rely on complaints. They're more interested in finding clubs that promote child prostitution.
They've also closed 13 hotels in Largo da Batata, Pinheiros because of prostitution complaints.

http://oglobo.globo.com/sp/mat/2007/08/15/297278217.asp

Heres a link for the Portuguese Readers to all the Oglobo reports on this mess. Looks like a media feeding frenzy:

http://oglobo.globo.com/busca/default.asp?q=boate%20Bahamas

Java Man
08-18-07, 10:03
Owner of Bahamas Oscar Marone-in custody

Brain666
08-18-07, 11:13
Friends of Sao Paulo,

I have to carefully prepare a business trip in September and/ or October and will be a newcomer in this side of the world, but not a new monger of course.

I have started to dig into all the 68 pages of this forum (RTFF not yet finished) and also read the reports of distinction, however while I would have been finished with my schedule when going to Rio, the information about Sao Paulo is rather thin. Further it seams to be that there is a huge change/ close or such in some famous clubs.

While continuing searching, if anybody could help here listing the key websites for escorts, cubs etc. and probably could give some other hints (massages or such) would be rather helpful. The Report of distinction is as well suffering from some comprehensive Sao Paulo information.

If somebody feels obliged for help, I will return if ever coming to Seoul, Korea, which isn't an easy area either.

Regards

Brain666

Peter Den
08-18-07, 16:26
Friends of Sao Paulo,

I have to carefully prepare a business trip in September and/ or October and will be a newcomer in this side of the world, but not a new monger of course.

I have started to dig into all the 68 pages of this forum (RTFF not yet finished) and also read the reports of distinction, however while I would have been finished with my schedule when going to Rio, the information about Sao Paulo is rather thin. Further it seams to be that there is a huge change/ close or such in some famous clubs.

While continuing searching, if anybody could help here listing the key websites for escorts, cubs etc. and probably could give some other hints (massages or such) would be rather helpful. The Report of distinction is as well suffering from some comprehensive Sao Paulo information.

If somebody feels obliged for help, I will return if ever coming to Seoul, Korea, which isn't an easy area either.

Regards

Brain666Hi Brain: here is a few websites for clubs and massage clinics in Sao Paulo. I have not tried any escort agencies in Sao Paulo.

Clubs:

Cafe Millenium: www.cafemillenium.com.br - My favorite club in Sao Paulo. Entrance fee is R$100, which is used for consumption. For example, beer cost is R$7. Room for 1hour is R$70. The ratio of women to men is usually at least 2:1.

Bomboa (222) American Bar: www.bomboa.com.br - It is more expensive than Millenium. The quality of girls are equal or slightly better than Millenium. The club is smaller than Milenium.

Massage clinics:

Clinica Antares: www.clinicaantares.com.br - R$130

Clinica Cherry: www.clinicacherry.com.br - R$130

Clinica Dra. Oyama: www.dra-oyama.com.br - Expensive - R$150 + presentinho (R$100) - very nice facilities

Clinica Quatro Estacao - www.quatroestacoesvip.com.br - R$130 -

Loso69
08-18-07, 17:00
Am I correct in reading that the Millennium chica wanted 1000 BRL for ST? As in $500?

No, she wanted 1000 BRL for LT in my apartment. ST on-site was a mere 300 BRL (+ 70 BRL for the room).

Loso

Smokers Rule
08-18-07, 21:16
$150 ST seems like a lot to me. I have not been to Brazil but if this is what prices are like I will never go.

Loso69
08-19-07, 01:02
dialing...

i went to bed after dawn, but couldn’t afford to sleep all day. afternoons are prime time if you wanna get through to são paulo escorts, so i dragged my lazy ass out of bed around 2pm.

after a quick lunch, i was back on the phone. but just like last night, i encountered nothing but wrong numbers. something was awry...

i went down to hotel reception and asked the girl to listen to the message. she asked what number i was dialing. i explained that i had a rio phone number (021) and was dialing a são paulo number (011). wrong! the correct way to dial is (021 11) nnnn-nnnn. fuck me for not doing proper research on brazilian phone etiquette!

back in my room, i was finally able to get through to someone. she wasn’t working. when i tried to call another girl... i’d run out of credit. shit! back to hotel reception, where they told me i could recharge my phone at the pão de acuçar store on the corner. it took them a while, as they had little experience with “foreign” numbers, but they finally got the job done.

back in my room... i still didn’t have any credit. double shit! yet another trip to hotel reception revealed that it can take up to an hour for electronic recharges to register. triple shit! this reeked of sabotage! :mad:

susy santhiago

having wasted the entire afternoon, it was late by the time i finally got through to an escort who was working and available on a friday night:

http://www.mclass.com.br/scripts/mclass.dll/det?codaco=1525&retorno=0

her stats on gp guia read:

td positivo: 27 (71%)
td neutro: 2 (5%)
td negativo: 6 (16%)
pisada na bola: 3 (8%)

anal: 8 sim (33%) - 16 não (67%)
oral sem: 25 sim (74%) - 9 não (26%)
beija: 31 sim (86%) - 4 não (14%)

a programma with susy was supposed to be 200 brl (in-call), but susy wanted 250 brl to visit my apartment, and an extra 50 brl for the taxi. she readily agreed to dfk and bbbj, but wouldn’t do anal.

susy sent me an sms as she was getting near my hotel and i went down to meet her. her face looked just like in the pictures, but her luscious and natural-looking goldilocks were replaced by fake-looking platinum-blonde hair in a pony tail. and she seemed to have gained some weight...

once we got to my room, susy soon got friendly. but disaster struck when she refused to let me take any pictures. this really wasn’t my day! :mad: i argued that she showed her face on the internet and that anyone could download her pictures for free. a punter who’s paying good money for the pleasure of her company should surely be allowed a souvenir of the encounter. susy kept sulking, but when i grabbed my wallet, handed her taxi money and invited her to leave, she suddenly saw things my way. :)

after bullying her into agreeing to pictures, i wrapped my arms around her and assured her that she looked beautiful, while showering her with sweet kisses. that seemed to do the trick – the mood changed and a smile magically appeared on that pretty face of hers.

susy wasn’t dressed sexily, but looked a lot more impressive when she took her clothes off. she may be a little chubby, but has a hard body with huge silicone tits. they were fun to play with as we showered together.

once on the bed, susy wanted to give me a cbj. i reminded her that she agreed to perform a bbbj on the phone. she played around with her tongue on my dick, but seemed to hold back while sucking it. she probably wanted to avoid cim, but didn’t realize i hadn’t had a live one for a while... :d

eating her pussy and bringing her to orgasm must have earned me some brownie points. susy volunteered for a couple of naked pictures and rode my dick with a passion. seeing her huge melons bouncing around was a visual delight. and i love it when a girl is rubbing her clit as you’re slamming her hard – a brazilian specialty. :cool:

susy’s ad mentions “destaque sexyclube do mês de maio/2007”. i know of the magazine sexy (revista sexy in portuguese), but am not sure what sexy clube means. is it the online equivalent of the magazine? where can her pictures be found? what’s susy’s name on sexy clube? i’d be grateful for any information.

btw, susy has had nothing but bad press on gp guia since she appeared on sexy clube (2 td negativo & 2 pisada na bola). maybe the fame has gone to her head?

epilogue

after susy left, i tried to call a few more escorts, but couldn’t get through to anyone. i made it to mcdonald’s just before they closed at midnight. when i came back, i set my alarm for 3.30am, intending to visit love story. but i couldn’t be bothered to wake up when my alarm went off. i was pooped after a tough day at the office...

loso

King Of Crunk
08-19-07, 02:16
Hi Brain: here is a few websites for clubs and massage clinics in Sao Paulo. I have not tried any escort agencies in Sao Paulo.

Clubs:

Cafe Millenium: www.cafemillenium.com.br - My favorite club in Sao Paulo. Entrance fee is R$100, which is used for consumption. For example, beer cost is R$7. Room for 1hour is R$70. The ratio of women to men is usually at least 2:1.

Bomboa (222) American Bar: www.bomboa.com.br - It is more expensive than Millenium. The quality of girls are equal or slightly better than Millenium. The club is smaller than Milenium.

Massage clinics:

Clinica Antares: www.clinicaantares.com.br - R$130

Clinica Cherry: www.clinicacherry.com.br - R$130

Clinica Dra. Oyama: www.dra-oyama.com.br - Expensive - R$150 + presentinho (R$100) - very nice facilities

Clinica Quatro Estacao - www.quatroestacoesvip.com.br - R$130 -I have a question about the clinicas in Sao Paulo, I went to Sao Paulo last year but didnt get to visit one, are those prices with or without intercourse, and if you want intercourse is the tip customary or mandatory. Let me know.

Thanks

Brain666
08-19-07, 04:40
Hi Brain: here is a few websites for clubs and massage clinics in Sao Paulo. I have not tried any escort agencies in Sao Paulo.

Clubs:

Cafe Millenium: www.cafemillenium.com.br - My favorite club in Sao Paulo. Entrance fee is R$100, which is used for consumption. For example, beer cost is R$7. Room for 1hour is R$70. The ratio of women to men is usually at least 2:1.

Bomboa (222) American Bar: www.bomboa.com.br - It is more expensive than Millenium. The quality of girls are equal or slightly better than Millenium. The club is smaller than Milenium.

Massage clinics:

Clinica Antares: www.clinicaantares.com.br - R$130

Clinica Cherry: www.clinicacherry.com.br - R$130

Clinica Dra. Oyama: www.dra-oyama.com.br - Expensive - R$150 + presentinho (R$100) - very nice facilities

Clinica Quatro Estacao - www.quatroestacoesvip.com.br - R$130 -
Thanks for the info Peter.
Your PM system isn't active so I have to ask this rather basic question in public, but just to make sure, but sorry if others feel bothered.

Question: Knowing several setups in other worlds, how is the setup in Sao Paulo:
1) The massagista's price includes the full service, lets say similar to a Thai Soapie? Or will there be an extra agreement required, like thai oil massage?
2) any tips recommended in case of 'all inclusive'. What is the best practice.
3) I know that anal is not that exeptional in Brazil. How about in such Massage place?

Regards

Brain666

regards

Peter Den
08-19-07, 09:01
Brain666:

(1) Full service is included as part of the price depending on the clinic. Of the four clinics that I have listed, Full service is not included for the Dra. Oyama clinic, where a handjob is included with the price. Oral costs additional are$50 and FS with oral will cost are$100. If you don't know portuguese, some of the girls will try to charge more. I went with a friend who did not know portuguese and he was charged are$150 for FS + oral. He just agreed to what the price she was quoting. Make sure to bargain with the girls. The other three clinics (Antares, Cherry, and Quatro Estacao) includes full service as part of the price. It usually starts with a massage, but sometimes the massage is skipped. The massage at these three clinics is pretty weak. If you are interested in a good massage, I would recommend Dra. Oyama. All the girls that I tried there give excellent massage. I am not sure if a massage class is part of the requirement of the girls at Dra. Oyama.

(2) No tips are required for the all inclusive ones. I have not had a girl request tips in any of the clinics. It is definitely a more pleasant experience than in Thailand where the girls are all expecting a tip afterwards.

(3) As far as anal, it will depend from girl to girl. They will request extra or a "presentinho" (presentinho in portuguese means little gift).

Hope this helps.


Thanks for the info Peter.
Your PM system isn't active so I have to ask this rather basic question in public, but just to make sure, but sorry if others feel bothered.

Question: Knowing several setups in other worlds, how is the setup in Sao Paulo:
1) The massagista's price includes the full service, lets say similar to a Thai Soapie? Or will there be an extra agreement required, like thai oil massage?
2) any tips recommended in case of 'all inclusive'. What is the best practice.
3) I know that anal is not that exeptional in Brazil. How about in such Massage place?

Regards

Brain666

regards

Voyajer1
08-19-07, 14:25
The majority of clinics I've visited do include intercourse in the price. You may have to include a tip for anal intercourse depending on the clinic you select. The term "Massagem Completa" service means the deed is included. That would be in about 95 out of every 100 clinicas if you check out sites such as gpguia. The service is nearly always great as the ladies make a fairly decent living in decent conditions. Make sure to research before you go. Enjoy!

Thanks for the info Peter.
Your PM system isn't active so I have to ask this rather basic question in public, but just to make sure, but sorry if others feel bothered.

Question: Knowing several setups in other worlds, how is the setup in Sao Paulo:
1) The massagista's price includes the full service, lets say similar to a Thai Soapie? Or will there be an extra agreement required, like thai oil massage?
2) any tips recommended in case of 'all inclusive'. What is the best practice.
3) I know that anal is not that exeptional in Brazil. How about in such Massage place?

Regards

Brain666

regards

Msands
08-19-07, 18:53
Ok, guys. I usually don't like to kiss and tell. But since I got some help on this board, I feel I owe a contribution.

I was in SP and POA 2 weeks ago. I didn't party in POA, but I must say it has some of the most beautiful women I've ever seen anywhere. And I've traveled extensively thru Europe, Asia, and LatAm. As I told my buddies back home, even the 40-50 yr old women are hot! Only place I know of where a pharmacy assistant looks like a blond supermodel (yes, I bought a lot of cold medicine and asked her lots of questions: )

In SP, I went to Bomboa and Romanza. First, Bomboa on Sat nite was a little slow. Maybe 30 girls and about 15 customers. Supposedly Wed is their best nite. I agree with everyone that they do take care of customers and you sign everytime you order drinks to avoid surprises. There were some extremely hot girls there, but also some really nice and friendly ones. I hooked up one that wasn't the best looker, but super nice and loved to kiss passionately. Anyways, she came back with me to hotel and spent the nite. The next day she took me to 2 street fairs, one in the Japanese district. She even showed her new apartment that she was buying the next week. More than the sex, I enjoyed her showing me SP like a local. She even invited to stay with her if I came back to visit!

Romanza on a Wed nite was a little different. Much larger place and more variety in the girls. This is more like a dance club where you mingle with the girls and ask them to dance or chat. Got there kind of late, but still nice selection. Then I was struck by She Who Could Send Men to War. Half Brasileira, half Colombiana. I called her the Morena Perfecta. I won't go into details, but let's just say she looked better naked than with clothes on. She wa unreal. She came back with me as well and no letdowns. Unfortunately, she had to wake up in a few hours for work but also offered to meet next time I'm in town. Like my Bomboa girl, she had bigger and better plans for her life than escorting. As for Romanza, I recommend but it could be intimidating without a local contact.

Brasil has some of the nicest, friendliest and most hospitable people I've met anywhere. The food is great. Based on my experience, many of the girls there are truly nice people and deserve to be treated like ladies. So don't forget this. Especially since the girls I met complain that Brasilian men don't treat them well. (Hint, hint) Also, spend 15 mins and learn 5-10 phrases in Portuguese. It will be your best time investment.

Hope this helps.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Member #4643
08-19-07, 21:13
It looks like a lot of the Bahamas girls are at Cafe Photo. I had avoided the place for years, but last night decided to give the place a try. It was exceptional. There were lots of EXTRAORDINARILY PRETTY women. Yes, you can weed out such beautiful women in Millenium, but the percentage of beauties exceeded anything I had experienced yet in Brazil.

Two women befriended me. I was interested in finding a bisexual woman who would stay the night and have sex with me and my Sao Paulo girlfriend (who was out of commission last night) in the morning. For this I was charged 500 reals.

Everything lived up to expectations. The girl I took home was a beautiful skinny blonde- just the way I like my girls. [ Incidentally, plenty of bubble butted big titted girls were there too.] She was total GFE for four hours, and definitely into the morning action after we had a bit of sleep. My girlfriend arrived two hours late, but my Cafe Photo girl and I killed the time with a little morning sex, breakfast and more sex. Of course, watching the two of them together was a real porno experience. Somehow, I managed to have sex with them both, and came all over their pretty little faces.

I just got a phone call from my new friend. Its Sunday night, and Photo is closed. We are going out for Pizza. I doubt I have any energy left for another session, but this was a truly worthy experience.

By the way, my friend said a lot of the same girls work W, and charge twice as much there. I have no idea if this is true, but one needs to be really picky to spend the extra cash considering the quality of the girls at Photo. One more interesting fact is that Photo cost me slightly less than my typical visit to Millenium (which I love).

Member #4643
08-19-07, 21:57
I suspect my report about last night was a bit tooo upbeat.

I called the other of the girls who befriended me at Photo. I asked her over for the night. She wanted 500 reals for a "session" (in Brazil, this is typically 90-120 minutes in a hotel) and 1000 reals for the night.

I guess my Photo girl simply liked me and stayed the night for free (and had sex with mygirlfriend for free too. The latter event was something it was clear she wanted to do more than have sex with me!).

Sometimes I forget about my amazing charm, :-))

Loso69
08-19-07, 22:48
Prelude

On Saturday, I woke up in the morning, which is quite unlike me. After pigging out at the buffet breakfast and raiding my bank account, my mouse and my cell phone were the familiar tools of the trade. But I must have woken up too early, as I got nothing but answer phones...

Pamela Butt

The first girl to answer my call was one of the biggest stars in the Brazilian porn industry: Pamela Butt.

http://sexdreams.com.br/acompanhantes/ac002655/index.php

Impressive stats from GP Guia:

TD Positivo: 15 (88%)
TD Neutro: 1 (6%)
TD Negativo: 1 (6%)
Pisada Na Bola: 0 (0%)

Anal: 16 Sim (100%)
Oral Sem: 17 Sim (100%)
Beija: 17 Sim (100%)

Unfortunately, Pamela was just getting ready to visit her home town of Porto Alegre. She’d be back in São Paulo on Monday. I dialed her number quite a few more times, without having the pleasure of talking to her again. :(

Andréa Lins

Andréa was the next girl to pick up the phone:

http://www.clubmodel.com.br/perfil.php?id=78

http://www.erosguide.com.br/Andrea_Lins/Andrea_free.htm

http://www.sexdreams.com.br/mini_book.php?id=ac002620

http://www.chantily.com.br/saopaulo/garotas/loiras/andrealins.htm

http://www.meianove.com.br/loiras/andrealins

Great stats on GP Guia:

TD Positivo: 10 (77%)
TD Neutro: 2 (15%)
TD Negativo: 0 (0%)
Pisada Na Bola: 1 (8%)

Anal: 10 Sim (100%)
Oral Sem: 12 Sim (100%)
Beija: 12 Sim (100%)

Prices for a programma with Andréa are all over the place. Even the GP Guia moderator commented about them. She wanted 300 BRL for a 90 minute programma at my apartment, including DFK, BBBJ and anal.

Andréa was supposed to show up at 1PM. When there was no sign of her at 1.30PM, I called again. She could be at my apartment in 1 hour. Não aguardo mais, meu amor! Pisasa na bola, as the Brazilians say! :p

BTW, if I’d known that she’d appear on the cover of the Brazil Sex Magazine a month later, I may have waited for this extremely popular girl.

Carollini Ferraz

I was totally in love with the vision of loveliness in the attached picture. Carollini looked like the Mexican girl I’ve never had.

http://www.erosguide.com.br/Carollini_Ferraz/Carollini_free.htm

http://www.vipcast.com.br/detalhes.php?id=44&nomealbum=Carollini%20Ferraz

At the time of my visit, her GP Guia stats read:

TD Positivo: 4 (100%)
TD Neutro: 0 (0%)
TD Negativo: 0 (0%)
Pisada Na Bola: 0 (0%)

Anal: 1 Sim (50%) - 1 Não (50%)
Oral Sem: 4 Sim (100%)
Beija: 4 Sim (100%)

Carollini wanted 200 BRL for a 90 minute programma at my apartment (+ 50 BRL for the taxi). DFK & BBBJ were included. The “Taxo do anal” was an extra 50 BRL.

Carollini was a new girl on the scene. According to her reviews, she was an inexperienced, but enthusiastic 18 yo. Sounded good to me!

She called me as she was getting into the taxi and asked me to wait for her outside my hotel. When she showed up, she looked a little different from her pictures. Her hair was wavy, rather than curly, with blonde highlights. Looked great! Her face wasn’t quite as pretty. Her nose was obviously Photoshopped in my favorite picture. Still, Carollini looked absolutely yummy!

I really wanted to jump her bones, but as she seemed a little shy and apprehensive, I went the slow route. I put on some music and loved the tender kisses from her luscious lips as we were dancing. After undressing each other, we hopped in the shower together.

Carollini tried for the CBJ, so I had to remind her of our deal. Her BBBJ was deep, with plenty of saliva and great tongue action. I knew I would eventually pop in her mouth, but she absolutely didn’t want me to. When I promised to give her an advance warning, she agreed to “chupar até o final”.

Even though she was wet, I still needed some extra lubrication to get inside her. Carollini’s tight! I loved the way she moved her hips as she was dancing on my dick. I adored it when she was holding me tight and passionately kissing me as we moved perfectly in sync. Making love to Carollini was a sheer delight!

The only negative about Carollini was the begging for regalos. She wanted my iPod, my laptop, the Pringles from the hotel... In more ways than one, Carollini reminded me of a Cubana. :)

Loso

Genghis Khan
08-20-07, 06:34
Dialing...
Susy’s ad mentions “Destaque SexyClube do mês de Maio/2007”. I know of the magazine Sexy (revista Sexy in Portuguese), but am not sure what Sexy Clube means. Is it the online equivalent of the magazine? Where can her pictures be found? What’s Susy’s name on Sexy Clube? I’d be grateful for any information.
Loso

Loso,

SexyClube is the website for the magazines Sexy and Sexy Premium. www.sexyclube.com.br

GK

Genghis Khan
08-20-07, 06:40
By the way, my friend said a lot of the same girls work W, and charge twice as much there. I have no idea if this is true, but one needs to be really picky to spend the extra cash considering the quality of the girls at Photo. One more interesting fact is that Photo cost me slightly less than my typical visit to Millenium (which I love).

W is history. It was closed several years ago.

GK

Brugal8
08-20-07, 17:16
W is history. It was closed several years ago.

GK


Dear GK,

Glad to see you're back my friend.

I think that W Club is now garden night....

Loso69
08-20-07, 21:43
My thanks to Genghis Khan for helping me locate Susy's Sexy Clube pictures. I had to wade through dozens of Brazilian babes before I found Susy's alter-ego. :) Google and thy shalt find pictures and a video of Tatiana Pagano.

Loso

Genghis Khan
08-21-07, 06:39
Dear GK,

Glad to see you're back my friend.

I think that W Club is now garden night....

There is a new club at the same address called Garden Club - yes, but everything is changed. For instance you now pay only an exit fee to the club and handle everything else directly with the girl. I doubt the same girls charge more at Garden Club. The prices at GC is more reasonable compared to Cafe Photo. Check gpguia.

GK

Tommy America
08-21-07, 21:39
There is a new club at the same address called Garden Club - yes, but everything is changed. For instance you now pay only an exit fee to the club and handle everything else directly with the girl. I doubt the same girls charge more at Garden Club. The prices at GC is more reasonable compared to Cafe Photo. Check gpguia.

GKThat was my experience there back in June. It is not the old "W" price model.

Boozer
08-22-07, 05:59
I had a free Thursday night in Sampa two weeks ago and ended up at Bomboa, mostly because I was not in a position to go for takeout, and I wasn't willing to trek out to Millenium or Connection. I had been there three times in the last 3 years with generally good results. I arrived around 10pm and the place was in full swing with a live band a pretty full house (though I've seen it more packed).

I thought the talent level was as good as I'd seen it, mostly 7's to 9's with lots of 8's. As I got my first beer one of the waiters pegged me as a gringo and in English offered to hook me up with one of their 'beautiful, english speaking girls' - I was not keen on this as I figured it would require a cut for him one way or another.

After circling the floor a few times, I was hanging by the front bar (away from the band), which was pretty quiet. I was soon approached by one of the many 8's in the place, I think her name was Marina (not sure about this). Many experienced readers know that an important rule in one of these places is not to let the girl pick you - I try to follow the rule but it was my first night in Brasil and I slipped up. She wanted 300 reais and offered anal, but she was being evasive on my insistence that she provide BBBJ. So I told her there was no way I would go above $R200 (I wrote it down just to be sure). Business must not be good, as she quickly agreed.

The session was OK, probably a 7 - she never truly managed a BBBJ, but did go 2 rounds and dutifully managed greek even though she insisted I was 'too big'. I also found out that she normally worked at Bahamas, and noticed she also carried a WE card. She told me that her home was a four hour commute and she was clearly available for all nighters as a result. I took a pass and didn't take her number.

So it's my first night in Brasil, possibly my only free night in Sampa, and I'm less than satisfied with the result (never let the girl pick you!).- I decided to hang around and see who else was available.

I soon spotted Mickhaela, who I had noticed early on. She's a tall (1.80 meters without heels) raven haired 20 year old whose bunda was clearly world class even when covered (snugly) by a pair of camoflauge pants. I got her attention and started to negotiate, she wanted 350 (these ladies aren't shy). We ended up at 250, but I had made sure to get agreement on the BBBJ this time.

Mikhaela turned out to be a real doll, probably an 8.5 in the sack. For some reason I did not get her number, and she only works limited days but I would definitely repeat.

All in all, I think Bomboa remains a solid spot, especially with Bahamas out of commission. In general, the girls are less pushy than in the Bahamas environment and you can still get good sessions for 200-250 (maybe less if you negotiate harder or speak the language). It is a big party atmosphere and if you don't like that environment it may not be right for you (or go on a quieter day).

I did not hear any talk of any impending crackdown, but there are others on this board who would have better info as I do not speak much Portuguese.

Loso69
08-22-07, 22:52
Termas

I love the Rio Centro termas! 4x4 remains my favorite place in the whole wide world. In São Paulo, the action is concentrated in boates & clinicas, which aren’t really my cup of tea. But Eu & Elas is a bone fide termas! And donning the robe makes me happy. :)

In Rio, Eu & Elas would probably be considered a 2nd tier termas... with 1st tier prices. The facilities aren’t as luxurious as in the upscale Rio termas. The garotas aren’t as stunning either. But that doesn’t mean you can’t have fun...

Since it was my first visit, I was given the grand tour... by a gorgeous black girl. I really liked her, but when I came out of the locker room, Simone was nowhere to be found...

Jacqueline

Saturday nights are slow in São Paulo and the selection wasn’t that impressive. But a platinum blonde caught my eye and she was soon sitting on my lap. Jacqueline wasted little time before grabbing my joystick. I didn’t think she’d stick it in her mouth... at least not in the boate... while the other girls were watching... but Jacqueline loves to be in the limelight. :)

After Jacqueline’s passionate kisses & constant teasing had my dick pointing to the ceiling for over half an hour, I couldn’t hold out any longer. I wanted to devour her! The open room looked damn inviting. Fucking Jacqueline’s brains out in public strangely appealed to me. But since I wouldn’t be allowed to take pictures in the open room, I opted for a private room instead...

After some nude modeling, Jacqueline soon had my dick in her mouth again. She was seductively looking into my eyes as she was teasing me and combined the foreplay with deep & hard sucking. I moved her into the 69 position and started caressing her clit. Jacqueline soon started moaning and I could see the sparkle in her eye as she sat down on my dick and uttered: “Fode me!” I shook her ass all about and then pulled her close to feel her sweet kisses as I exploded.

After a cigarette break, Jacqueline soon maneuvered herself on top of her. After she got her rocks off, I pounded her with all my might until I got too hot. As I took a breather, Jacqueline was quick to rip off the condom and give me a BBBJCIM. What a gal!

BTW, you’re supposed to negotiate a fee with the girl, but Jacqueline made it sound as if the price were fixed. Since 150 BRL is the standard presenta, I didn’t argue.

Simone

My tour guide was disappointed when she saw me getting friendly with Jacqueline as she returned to the boate. But even though I had company, we kept flirting from a distance...

As I was heading upstairs with Jacqueline, I stopped to have a quick chat with Simone. When I asked whether she’d be interested in spending the night at my apartment, she immediately gave me a big smack on the lips and said she’d wait for me...

When I met up with Simone again after my session with Jacqueline, she only wanted 250 BRL for the night. Since she quoted me a fair price, I didn’t bother to negotiate. I wasn’t too happy that she insisted on leaving at 9AM, but reluctantly accepted.

Simone stood by me as I checked out and didn’t make a secret of the fact that she was going home with me. Whereas you have to sneakily meet outside if you wanna take a Rio termas girl home, everything was out in the open in São Paulo.

We spent some time dancing and taking pictures while Simone kept raiding my fridge. She dearly loves Skol – a powerful aphrodisiac! :)

Simone turned out to be another BJ artist. Her studded tongue, amazing eyes & wonderful technique will send shivers down your spine. Seeing my dick slide all the way in and out of her black hole was a sight to behold. After pumping my dick, she started grinding me hard, pursuing her own orgasm. She was spurring me on as we went through the various positions until I finally came while holding her long black legs in the air.

After waking up early and shooting 5 loads with 3 different girls, I was ready to go to sleep. Simone wouldn’t hear of it... After she played with my dildos for a while, we took it in turns to fuck each other’s brains out. Simone’s pussy is tight, but industrial strength. You can’t possibly fuck her long or hard enough. I didn’t think I had another shot in me, but Simone was oh so horny. When we came together after a monster fuck, both of us simply collapsed. Simone actually fell asleep on top of me! :eek: I soon dozed off as well...

When we woke up around noon, our arms and legs were soon entangled again and another round of passionate sex ensued. Simone wanted to go home, but decided to have lunch with me anyway.

Most restaurants are closed on Sundays and we ended up walking to Habib’s. We acted like lovebirds, as we were kissing and cuddling in our booth. After lunch, we shared a couple of sorbets from McDonald’s. After a final make-out session on a street corner, I had to say goodbye to my princesa negra. The goldilocks catch my eye. But it’s often the black girls who manage to capture my heart. :cool:

Loso

King Of Crunk
08-23-07, 04:18
Loso69,

Wow, great report I thought Eu E Elas would be considered a 1st tier compared to the Rio Termas, but anyways can you breakdown the pricing structure.

1. Entrance cost
2. Cost of private room
3. Starting price of negotiations
4. Any Japanese-Brasileiras in there
5. How far is this place from teh Vergeiro Metro Station ( not sure of the spelling of that )

I will be down there 8/24 sharp ready to report for duty..

Loso69
08-23-07, 18:57
King of Crunk,

1) Entrance: 79 BRL
Includes 2 drinks, food buffet & use of the facilities.
2) Private room: 59 BRL
The open room is free!
3) Starting price: 150-250 BRL (according to ISG reports). Aim to pay 100-150 BRL.
4) I didn't notice any Japonesas, but many girls don't work on Saturdays.
5) Address: Rua Pires da Mota 494. Corner with Av. da Aclimação (name not mentioned on map). Just before R. Pais de Andrade (on map). Walking distance or short cab ride from Vergueiro metro station.

Loso

Member #2964
08-23-07, 22:41
How many BTR to the dollor?

Loso69
08-23-07, 22:59
Member #2964,

There's an entire thread devoted to the exchange rate!

Loso

Loso69
08-24-07, 23:28
Sunday Options

São Paulo is dead on Sundays. Most escorts aren’t working. Very few P4P venues open their doors. The Sunday options I was aware of were:

- Bahamas
* Beyond my budget.

- Kilt Shows
* Simone (from Eu & Elas) told me she worked there on Sundays. As wonderful as she was, I wasn’t in town long enough to do repeats.

- Rua Augusta
* The low budget option I wanted to check out.

Balnéario

General

I took a taxi to Rua Augusta (Centro) and asked to be dropped off when I saw some bright lights. Boate Balnéario was on the list of recommended places, so I decided to have a look inside.

Balnéario is in fact a budget termas/sauna. The entrance is either 10 BRL (including 2 drinks) or 20 BRL (including 1 drink & use of the sauna).

The cost of the room & kit (towel, soap, condoms) is 20 BRL. The rooms are small, but clean and feature a shower, but no hot water. You pay for the room when you check out, but give the garota her presenta at the end of the programma.

Garotas

The girls in Balnéario are mostly older and not very attractive. I didn’t see any gems, but a few of the girls were doable. The first girl to approach me was a platinum blonde wearing glasses and a student outfit who spoke great English. I had my eye on someone else...

The object of my desire was Josi, a cute 21 yo mulatta spinner. She was fun to chat with, but seemed shy. She agreed to DFK & BBBJ, but refusing pictures was the kiss of death.

I moved from the bar to a sofa and checked out the girls as they were walking past. A pretty blonde caught my eye, but she was an extremely popular girl, doing one programma after another...

Duda

A tall, curly-haired morena was also a busy girl. Still, she was happy to sit with me and seemed in no hurry to head for a room. She seemed really passionate as she was kissing me and biting my neck. When she agreed to pictures, I ordered a kit...

Duda had the suction power of an industrial strength vacuum cleaner. Wow! I didn’t appreciate it when she tried to stick her finger up my ass, though. :p Duda loved having her pussy eaten and rode my dick with the grace of an Amazon. I flipped her over and fucked her doggy style before giving her the orgasm she was craving by drilling her hard & fast in the missionary position.

When I asked her to finish me off with a BBBJ, Duda didn’t want me to come in her mouth. Her magic lips got the job done anyway. :) An inspired performance well worth 50 BRL!

Blondie

The great experience with Duda tasted like more. I would have loved to spend some quality time with the loira I’d previously spotted, but she had too many regular customers. :( In the end, I gave up on her and decided to try my luck elsewhere...

Casarão

General

I didn’t have to walk very far. Right next-door to Balnéario is Casarão, another place that gets good reviews. Unlike Balnéario, Casarão is a boate, where the 10 BRL entrance fee buys you one beer.

Casarão had recently been remodeled and looked pretty upscale. It was totally deserted, though. The saunas are busy and fully staffed in the afternoon, whereas the boates don’t get going until late. One loira, still in her street clothes, had shown up for work early. But she was way past her sell-by date...

I sat down at the bar and observed the garotas trickling in, heading upstairs to change their clothes and apply their make-up, before making their appearance in the boate. The Casarão girls present themselves a lot better than the Balnéario girls, but aren’t younger or better looking than their neighbors.

Leia

Fucking a Japonesa was on my to-do list, but I had been unsuccessful in trying to contact my favorite Asian escort. When I spotted a Japonesa and smiled at her, she was soon all over me...

Leia was no stunner and past her prime, but seemed really enthusiastic. When I indicated that I was getting hungry, she went outside to order me some food. The way to a man’s heart is through his stomach. :) When Leia passed the interview stage, we discussed her compensation. She asked for 80 BRL for a 40 minute programma, but settled for 60 BRL. Then it went back up to 80 BRL, including anal. Deal!

In Casarão, you have to go outside and pay for the room (22 BRL) and the girl in advance. When I got my kit, we were headed upstairs...

Leia had agreed to pictures in the boate, but insisted on hiding her face when I got my camera out. She’s married and was worried her husband would find out about her extra-curricular activities. :eek: In the end, I got the picture I wanted, but Leia’s antics irritated me and wasted valuable time.

When I invited Leia to suck my dick, she refused. WTF! I put a condom on, so I could fuck her. She starts giving me a CBJ. That wasn’t what we agreed on! Even though I paid extra for the privilege, she wouldn’t take it up the ass either. I tried to ram it up her bunda anyway, but couldn’t manage to squeeze it in. And, of course, Leia wasn’t carrying lubrication...

Pictures without face. CBJ. No anal. Leia was a total lying bi*ch! I had some time left, but I would never be able to come with this uncooperative **** anyway. Leia wanted me to continue fucking her pussy, but I put my clothes on and simply left...

Epilogue

After warning Leia that her pictures would end up on the Internet, I stormed out. There were plenty of other places to explore on Rua Augusta, but it was after midnight already and I decided to call it a night. The dreaded weekend was over and I had big plans for tomorrow...

Loso

Orca11
08-25-07, 04:58
Hey Loso,

How is Rual Augusta? Is it safe to walk around the area?

Vatel69
08-25-07, 08:18
Hello all.
Some of you might know that I know dont live in Brazil anymore.
I was in Sao Paulo for a few days 2 weeks ago. In my first day, I went to Clinica Abbobora and had a session with Angelica. The regular price is 120 if paid in cash. She was an old fling so it was a good time for 1 hour. On the way out I saw some of the other girls that work there and Tais caught my attention. I wish had time but I was short in reais and had to catch a flight.
At the airport because of the flight delays, I found myself with 2 hours to kill, so I decided to visit my friend that owns PHQ II which is only across the street, 2 blocks down from the Congonhas airport. He wasnt there so I decided to sample the goodies and took a mulata for the first time in my life. She was awesome. Full service and only for 60 reais I think.
After my short flight, I checked in the hotel aand went out for dinner. After dinner, went back to the hotel. And believe it or not but at the reception, my Ho alarm went on. So I followed this girl to the elevator and assuming that the wost that could happen would me getting slapped on the face, I asked her if she was a working girl. The conversation went more or less like this:
ME - "Excuse me, but any chance you are here for work?"
Her - "Yes"
ME - "How long are going to be busy"
Her - "1 hour"
ME - "So why dont you come to my room afterwards?"
Her - "OK"
ME - "Im in room #(I dont remember but it was the first floor)"
And I left at the first floor. After more or less 1.30hrs she knocks on my door. She asked me 100 reais for 1 hour but all I had was dollars and told her if 40 would be ok and she was ok. Lets say she wasnt the best looking but she was good enough to help me unload my last few drops left in the tank. She was so pleased afterwards that she wanted to comeback the next day but I was already busy meeting friends and an ex-girlfriend.
I went back to SP 2 days later and went out for dinner with friends and later met a friend and we went to Garden Club. It was dead but it was good because I met the formal hostess from Jd America. And some of you might know her. She is very hot now. And I promised her that someday I would get to nail her. GC been so dead we decided to go to the New Romanza. I think it has a different name. It was packed. Lots of 7-8s but I end up meeting a girl that I thought was retired. Her name is Barbara and we went back to my hotel and spent the night having loads of fun. I felt sorry for the cleaning ladies afterwards. We never negotiated a price but she only asked for 250 reais when she left.
Afterwards I spent a few more days in town but no mongering since my real girlfriend kept me on a tight rope until I left.
I need to time my trip better next time because almost every girl I had the pleasure to spend time with either did get their periods when spending the night with me or they were about to get it. The bed covers o my bed had blood stains almost every morning.
I will be back end of Oct.

Loso69
08-25-07, 17:51
Hey Loso. How is Rual Augusta? Is it safe to walk around the area?

Seemed safe enough to me, but I didn't have to do much walking.

Loso

Nrlmus
08-26-07, 18:03
I used to see her 3 years ago. Anyone knows whatever happened to her? How does look now and is she still working?

Loso69
08-26-07, 18:28
Karen Roche

Ever since Moondog posted pictures of her, Karen Roche had been at the very top of my world-wide to-do list. It took 2 long years before I finally made it to São Paulo. Luckily, she was still working...

Karen was the first girl I called when I arrived in São Paulo on Thursday. I was dialing wrong... She was the first girl I called once I discovered how to dial correctly. I got to hear Karen’s sweet voice, but she wasn’t working on Friday... or Saturday... or Sunday.

Today was the day I was finally going to meet the perfect specimen. Karen answered the phone; she was available; she was willing to come to my apartment. Dreams can come true! :)

Karen may have gotten a rave review from Moondog, but her statistics on GP Guia are not exactly impressive:

TD Positivo: 26 (49%)
TD Neutro: 12 (23%)
TD Negativo: 15 (28%)
Pisada Na Bola: 0 (0%)

Anal: 3 Sim (9%) - 32 Não (91%)
Oral Sem: 8 Sim (21%) - 30 Não (79%)
Beija: 17 Sim (46%) - 20 Não (54%)

Considering those stats, I wondered how Karen would respond to my little questionnaire. She agreed to DFK. BBBJ depends on your hygiene. Her ad clearly mentioned that anal was not an option. Karen charges 250 BRL for 90 minutes if you visit her apartment. Out-call is 100 BRL extra.

When Karen called me to say she was leaving, I went down to wait for my princess. I expected her to show up in a taxi, but Karen drives her own little car. She was elegantly dressed and looked just as beautiful in real life as in her Internet pictures.

Karen doesn’t like smokers! :eek: Luckily, I always have some chewing gum handy. After taking some pictures, Karen disappeared into the bathroom and came out butt-naked. And since all traces of tobacco had been replaced by a sparkling mint flavor, she was happy to kiss me. :)

After I undressed, we moved to the bed for more TLC. Without hesitation, Karen gave me a BBBJ. Her oral technique isn’t that great, but she’s a lot better at fucking. Seeing this exquisite beauty bobbing up and down on my dick felt amazing. Quatro is her favorite position and I shot my first load while staring at what Brasileiros consider to be the perfect bunda.

After chatting for a while (no cigarette :rolleyes: ), Karen initiated the 2nd round. This time, I preferred positions in which I could taste her sweet kisses and gaze at what I consider to be the perfect face. The sex with Karen wasn’t mind-boggling, but my Barbie doll was a total sweetie.

When I was looking for additional pictures of Karen just a few weeks ago, she was still advertising on 4 escort sites. When I wanted to include the links in this report, I couldn’t find her on any site. As usual, GP Guia provided the answer. Karen now calls herself Cindy and works at The Palms, São Paulo’s most exclusive clinica.

http://www.thepalms.com.br

Karen also worked at W.E., São Paulo’s most expensive boate. But since she couldn’t stand the smoke, she only stayed for 2 days.

Through Moondog’s old posts, I also discovered that Karen was once a coelhinha. The attached picture was scanned from my very own copy of the June 2004 issue of the Brazilian Playboy. Loso fucked a bona fide Playboy bunny! :cool:

Loso

Loso69
08-28-07, 21:18
lana

after running some errands and having dinner, i called lana:

http://www.mclass.com.br/scripts/mclass.dll/det?codaco=1500&retorno=0

lana looks damn hot and her gp guia stats are pretty impressive as well:

td positivo: 22 (65%)
td neutro: 4 (12%)
td negativo: 4 (12%)
pisada na bola: 4 (12%)

anal: 14 sim (82%) - 3 não (18%)
oral sem: 27 sim (96%) - 1 não (4%)
beija: 27 sim (100%)

lana wouldn’t come to my hotel, so i had to make my way to her apartment. she lives in the upscale la residence paulista building in jardim paulista, on the corner of alameda jaú and rua lobo haddock.

when i entered her building, the security guard asked me for id. i explained that no tourist would be stupid enough to carry his passport around. he called lana to see if it would be alright to let me up without id. the answer was: “não!”

a puta who requires her customers to show id? how fucking ridiculous!

luckily, both my hotel and her apartment were close to a metro station, so i only wasted my time on this stuck-up bi*ch. :mad:

patrícia kimberly

by the time i got back home, it was almost 11pm. i started calling escorts, without expecting anyone to be available at this time of night. but none other than porn star patrícia kimberly answered my call.

patrícia may be the girl with the highest internet presence in são paulo. even this long list is probably incomplete.

http://www.meianove.com.br/loiras/patriciakimberly/imagens_modelo.htm

http://www.erosguide.com.br/patricia_kimberly/patricia_free.htm

http://sexdreams.com.br/acompanhantes/ac002445/index.php

http://www.chantily.com.br/saopaulo/garotas/loiras/patriciakimberly.htm

http://www.contatos.com.br/nome.php?nome=patriciakimberly

http://www.malicia.com.br/free/acompanhantes/freegirls/show_girl.php?id=4941

http://www.abusa.com.br/patricia-kimberly-free.htm

http://www.censurado.com.br/nome.php?nome=patriciakimberly

http://www.lesexy.com.br/acompanhantes/garotas/sao-paulo/patricia-kimberly

http://www.sensual.com.br/ssmodelo.php?id=04941

http://english.sexinoff.com/fotos.asp?id=181

http://www.sogarotas.com.br/garota_2005.php?id=513

patrícia’s stats on gp guia are as good as it gets.

td positivo: 91 (95%)
td neutro: 2 (2%)
td negativo: 1 (1%)
pisada na bola: 2 (2%)

anal: 91 sim (99%) - 1 não (1%)
oral sem: 93 sim (100%)
beija: 91 sim (99%) - 1 não (1%)

patrícia is a redhead in her older internet pictures, but looks exactly like the dark blonde in the more recent pictures. she charges 200 brl for 90 minutes (+ taxi for out-call). and boy oh boy, is she ever worth it!

patrícia oozes sexuality and has an insatiable appetite for hard cocks. if she weren’t such a popular escort, she’d probably be [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) guys on the street! :)

i remember patrícia stripping during the photo shoot. after that, it’s all a bit of a haze. with a seldom seen passion and enthusiasm, this amazing little fucking machine relentlessly stuffed my dick in all 3 of her holes, brought me to ecstasy and left me totally drained and exhausted. at the end of the session, i felt as if i’d been hit by a bulldozer!

after recuperating from the fuck-fest, we started chatting. we talked in portuguese before, but patrícia turned out to speak good english. before discovering her true vocation, she used to be an english teacher. :)

patrícia is one of the rising stars of the brazilian porn industry and has already starred in movies distributed by major us labels. the fact that she speaks english will definitely help her career. i’ve collected 16 of her dvds so far and have seen her do the weirdest shit! :eek: “safada ão extremo”, as she’s been described. new dvds are being released at an alarming rate, and patrícia is sure to give me years of collecting pleasure. this porn star extraordinaire definitely gets a five star rating from me!

epilogue

on my final day in são paulo, i reached 2 of my primary objectives. after fucking a playboy bunny and a major porn star, i fell asleep with a big grin on my face. :) the next day, i’d be catching a flight to porto alegre. but i’d be back in são paulo at the end of my trip... for the grand finale.

loso

Benjoe
08-28-07, 23:32
Patrícia Kimberly


She's also somewhere on this website giving head to a dick stuck through a glory hole: Cabine Erotica (free video trailers). http://www.cabineerotica.com.br/v2/entrada.php

Loso69
08-28-07, 23:50
She's also somewhere on this website giving head to a dick stuck through a glory hole: Cabine Erotica (free video trailers). http://www.cabineerotica.com.br/v2/entrada.php

Patricia is on a few of the other Rede Sexo sites as well: Clube do Sexo, Fetiche Total & Ninfetas Brasil.

She's also on Mike in Brazil and Lil' Latinas. Check out this blog:

http://patriciakimberly.********.com

BTW, if you find her on any other sites, let me know. :)

Loso

Latitude Cruz
08-29-07, 00:02
At the airport because of the flight delays, I found myself with 2 hours to kill, so I decided to visit my friend that owns PHQ II which is only across the street, 2 blocks down from the Congonhas airport.
Vatel,

I am not familiar with PHQII. This might be a good place to know, as I transit Congonhas airport semi-frequently. Can you offer some info (maybe a web site)? There was one I remember a while back (I think Bahamas?). They were accustomed to airport transiting business travelers. They would store your luggage while you visited their establishment. Very nice and professional.

As an aside, how were things at CGH airport? Have they normalized at all, or are almost all the flights still very late?

LC

Jonathan76
08-29-07, 00:09
Hello all,

Here are some more words of wisdom from American author, professor and cultural critic, Camille Paglia.

I think this fits in nicely with the Brazilian view on sex workers.

*******

"White middle-class feminist rhetoric has been produced by professional women, lawyers, bookworms, and paper pushers who can't stand the fact -- it's unbearable to them -- that most men will still turn their heads and gasp when a beautiful women walks into the room and exposes a little tit and ass. It's a white, bourgeois prejudice to find the seductive wiggling of a butt degrading.

People go to strip clubs to see beauty and it's fucking elitist for people who go to museums to look at paintings and statues of beautiful bodies to denigrate strip clubs. These museum goers are staring at beautiful nude bodies for pleasure, and it's supposedly high art. The educated and rich get their kicks in museums. Most people who come to these mid-level or sleaze-level clubs are usually not highly educated literati. It's perfectly legitimate for them to want to look at beautiful female bodies. I don't want a culture that says that a woman exposing her breasts is degrading. That's white middle-class bullshit.

College women are being trained in women's studies courses to say that when men focus on a woman's breasts and buttocks, they are reducing women to dead parts. This is absolute bullshit. I'm radical on this. I'm militant. I know I'm really extreme, and most women probably can't feel what I feel. I say there is nothing degrading in the exhibit of any naked form, in whole or in part, male or female.

*******

Best wishes everyone,

Jonathan

Brugal8
08-29-07, 04:53
Any monger with info about the bahamas situation??

Bubba Boy
08-29-07, 07:55
Have to agree with this statement, a perfect round Brazilian bunda is every bit as beautiful as any painting, and the best thing - you can actually play with a bunda, can't do that with a 500 year old painting!

Mangera
08-29-07, 12:12
Have to agree with this statement, a perfect round Brazilian bunda is every bit as beautiful as any painting, and the best thing - you can actually play with a bunda, can't do that with a 500 year old painting!
You can bite, lick, slap, or finger a painting, but it just does not have the same allure or charm as a brasilian piece of ass :)

Sui Generis
08-29-07, 15:15
Vatel,

I am not familiar with PHQII. This might be a good place to know, as I transit Congonhas airport semi-frequently. Can you offer some info (maybe a web site)?
LC

http://www.phq.com.br/

Almotu
08-30-07, 06:13
I have put your recent reports in the Reports of Distinction thread, as where they belong. Keep them coming :D

Vatel69
08-30-07, 06:47
Vatel,

I am not familiar with PHQII. This might be a good place to know, as I transit Congonhas airport semi-frequently. Can you offer some info (maybe a web site)? There was one I remember a while back (I think Bahamas?). They were accustomed to airport transiting business travelers. They would store your luggage while you visited their establishment. Very nice and professional.

As an aside, how were things at CGH airport? Have they normalized at all, or are almost all the flights still very late?

LC

I think I got lucky because I took a late afternoon flight. Just avoid the busy hours and chances of delayed flights are smaller.
Close to CGH I would recomend Abbobora and PHQ.
www.abbobora.com.br
www.pqh.com.br
cheers

Loso69
08-30-07, 22:33
I have put your recent reports in the Reports of Distinction thread, as where they belong. Keep them coming :D

Thanks! My reports will continue (Porto Alegre, Montevideo, Buenos Aires, Rio & back to SP)... but will be interrupted by a trip to Russia (SPB) & the 3 Baltic countries.

Loso

SE Asia Joe
08-31-07, 09:15
There is a new club ......
GK

Hi Genghis Kan:
Let me start this PM with an apology for perhaps the intrusion, but the reason I am writing to you is in regards to a Regular ISG member by the handle "Marglo." I tried to PM you but apparently your PM box is full as I get this when I tried:

..."Genghis Khan has exceeded their stored private messages quota and can not accept further messages until they clear some space."..

Anyway Marglo has at least a couple times been telling us on the Hong Kong General Info thread to "Check with Genghis Khan"

This Marglo has been writing complete diatribe as to the real state of affairs in Hong Kong which not only will misinform those trying to get information on my fair city - but worse, could easily steer many prospective visitors away from coming to Hong Kong.

He writes about Hong Kong as popularly depicted in all those schlock triad/kung fu type movies and makes it seem as if the whole place is run over by gangs, crooked cops and Big Bosses above all law i.e. He and all his Hi-So friends carry guns whilst in actual fact, even the possession of a gun here is a strict no-no.

OK - For all I know, you could perhaps be Marglo himself but still I am herewith writing to you to ask you if you do know this Marglo PERSONALLY and can vouch for him or is this some more of his diatribe?

Thank you for your patience and attention - I hope to hear back from you as once and for all I would like to clear up his misallignment of Hong Kong.
We have the rule of law, our Police force is known as Asia's best and their conduct compares very favorably with any Law enforcement agency anywhere in the world - whilst at the same time still making it quite easy/enjoyable and relatively cheap for us punters to practice our hobby
SE Asia Joe

Genghis Khan
09-02-07, 13:54
Hi Genghis Kan:
Let me start this PM with an apology for perhaps the intrusion, but the reason I am writing to you is in regards to a Regular ISG member by the handle "Marglo." I tried to PM you but apparently your PM box is full as I get this when I tried:

..."Genghis Khan has exceeded their stored private messages quota and can not accept further messages until they clear some space."..

Anyway Marglo has at least a couple times been telling us on the Hong Kong General Info thread to "Check with Genghis Khan"

This Marglo has been writing complete diatribe as to the real state of affairs in Hong Kong which not only will misinform those trying to get information on my fair city - but worse, could easily steer many prospective visitors away from coming to Hong Kong.

He writes about Hong Kong as popularly depicted in all those schlock triad/kung fu type movies and makes it seem as if the whole place is run over by gangs, crooked cops and Big Bosses above all law i.e. He and all his Hi-So friends carry guns whilst in actual fact, even the possession of a gun here is a strict no-no.

OK - For all I know, you could perhaps be Marglo himself but still I am herewith writing to you to ask you if you do know this Marglo PERSONALLY and can vouch for him or is this some more of his diatribe?

Thank you for your patience and attention - I hope to hear back from you as once and for all I would like to clear up his misallignment of Hong Kong.
We have the rule of law, our Police force is known as Asia's best and their conduct compares very favorably with any Law enforcement agency anywhere in the world - whilst at the same time still making it quite easy/enjoyable and relatively cheap for us punters to practice our hobby
SE Asia Joe

Mr. SE Asia Joe,

There are a couple of things I need to let you know.
1) I don't like the contents of PM's sent to me published on the public forum.
2) I have known Marglo for a number of years. In my opinion he is amont the most trusworthy persons on this entire website.
3) I don't think this is the place for a personal quarrel about something as off topic as the police force in Hong Kong. We are in the Sao Paulo thread here.

If there are anything else I can help you with let me know. I have never been to Hong Kong, so I can't tell what I think Hong Kong or their police force is like.

GK

Brugal8
09-02-07, 22:45
The bahamas eeffect continued with cafe millenium!!!!

What the hell is going on, are they trying to close every good f@#$ house in Sao Paulo?

Sui Generis
09-03-07, 05:25
Here's the news:

http://g1.globo.com/Noticias/SaoPaulo/0,,MUL96624-5605,00-PREFEITURA+DE+SP+INTERDITA+CAFE+MILLENIUM.html

Java Man
09-03-07, 11:10
http://oglobo.globo.com/sp/mat/2007/08/14/297266787.asp

Condepe: Conselho Estadual dos Direitos da Pessoa Humana
If I understand this report correctly, Condepe is a State Human Rights Commision, that may be the driving force behind the boate closures. According to Condepe, there is a house of prostitution on every corner of SP, (WOW!!) Condepe accuses the SP Authorities of turning a blind eye to this problem and issuing licenses to bars and nightclubs that are in fact w*ore houses. The report names Cafe Photo, Romanza, as well as Millenium and Bahamas.
How soon before prostitution is illegal in Brazil?

BTW, there is video of the Bahamas Raid on the link Sui Generis posted.

Chris Gomez
09-05-07, 21:08
Gents,

I'll be in Sao Paulo for the very first time. I don't speak Portuguese, so I am in need of some help getting around, if you know what I mean. I'll be staying at the Blue Tree Faria Lima. The address of the hotel is: Av. Brigadeiro Faria Lima, 3989, Vila Olímpia.

Anything nearby that I can check out that speaks English? Or am I better off calling in for room service?

Any assistance is greatly appreciated. Many thanks.

Robertlopes6071
09-07-07, 01:10
Chris,

I just registered to answer your question. I've been a long time visitor to the ISG, but never contributed. But man, your question about Sao Paulo really deserves a good answer! This is really Sin City!

I've been in Sao Paulo several times and my recommendation is that you call the girl to your hotel room. There're a lot of good options in sites like Malicia (http://www.malicia.com.br/), with tons of beautiful garotas. Now, if you want to hear my recommendation, I would suggest this girl. She is not only gorgeous, but also great, very sweet, and she does everything you can dream of (great oral, great anal, great conversation too...)

http://juliagualter.freehostingz.com
http://www.classybrazil.com/julia/

Now, I don't know if she speaks English, although her website has an English version. Good thing is that you can contact her by email and check (I am pretty sure it's in her website). A portuguese dictionary may not be a bad idea, anyway. If you want more information (you or anyone else in the forum) just ask me, send me a private or something. I can send you a list of useful words :-D

Best,

Robert

Sgt Bilko
09-07-07, 15:37
Fyi gents, the strange saga of São Paulo nightclub and brothel owner Oscar Maroni made the front page of the Wall Street Journal on Wednesday, September 5, 2007. It seems the mayor of São Paulo is using "air safety" as a reason to keep Mr. Maroni from building a new annex to his famous Bahamas Club. It's an interesting article.

Robertlopes6071
09-11-07, 23:23
Sorry man, I contacted her by email and she understood all my indications. Then, when she was in my hotel room, I used a mix of my limited Portuguese, my limited Spanish and my limited English. She seemed to understand very well what I was saying :-) Although, as you may understand, in those circumstances you don't need to use a very broad vocabulary :-)


I tried to contact Julia via mail and got her. But she does not speak english at all.

Does anybody know in SP some nice GP who speak english so I can at least visit a bit the city with a real escort who is also wild in the bedroom?

Thanks a lot. I have some goo tip in Rio but this is my first time in SP.

Any club in SP like "Help" in rio ?

Chris Gomez
09-12-07, 21:59
On my 4th night in SP, finally got someone to come over to my hotel. I was charged R$ 200 + $20 USD for taxi. The girl advertised in the link below was too hot to pass up and I was able to get through to someone that spoke English. The girl that came over (it wasn't Carol, but pretty close) had a smoking body, pretty typical of any Brazilian woman - big ass rump.

I was a bit disappointed that I got the typical switch, but given that I hadn't had any for the past few nights, it wasn't a big deal.

Girl promised 30 minute wait, but took a little over an hour. BJ was done in five minutes and the rest was history within 20 minutes. Nothing exciting, just a few position, finished it off doggy. I went in to the bathroom to wash my hand and by the time I came out, she was dressed already ready to go.

Mongering is quite expensive down here in SP. I thought it would have been a bit more economical. I'm comparing this to other Latin American Countries and Asia Pacific.

http://www.erosguide.com.br/Carol_Perez/Carol_free.htm

I really got a thing for massages with happy endings. Can anyone recommend any good ones?

Robertlopes6071
09-13-07, 23:13
Yes you are fight but I am 100% sure that she is not answering the mails herself because the writting english is very good and no web tranlator cI didn't even notice. I told her where I was by email, and she was there right in time. After that, I just used a bit of Spanish, some words in Portuguese and a few in English, and it worked out pretty well. Learning some key words in Portuguese helps a lot, of course. Anyway, I hope that you'll find what you're looking for!

Ekios
09-15-07, 01:06
Hi all,

And first of all, thank you for all these reports. I'll be happy to write one if I find something interesting. :)

I just arrived in Sampa, and I am quite impressed by the size of the city, and what I heard about it (insecurity and violence) ! My hotel is near the Avenida Paulista, so I walked along the rua Augusta. But I didn't find the ambiance and the bars very attractive (it sounded like traps). But I may be wrong ?

My big problem is I can't speak a word of Portuguese, so I am looking for some kind of house where prices would already be "negociated", or at least where I could speak English. An "all in exclusive" massage would be perfect, for example !

Best regards,

Ekios.

Tommy America
09-15-07, 06:22
Both Kilt and Bomboa will help you find girls that speak English. For a massage, the Palms and Cherry do too.


Hi all,

And first of all, thank you for all these reports. I'll be happy to write one if I find something interesting. :)

I just arrived in Sampa, and I am quite impressed by the size of the city, and what I heard about it (insecurity and violence) ! My hotel is near the Avenida Paulista, so I walked along the rua Augusta. But I didn't find the ambiance and the bars very attractive (it sounded like traps). But I may be wrong ?

My big problem is I can't speak a word of Portuguese, so I am looking for some kind of house where prices would already be "negociated", or at least where I could speak English. An "all in exclusive" massage would be perfect, for example !

Best regards,

Ekios.

Voyajer1
09-15-07, 09:48
If you are that close to Rua Augusta, the place to visit is New Maison (650 Rua Augusta). The place is cheap, clean, rooms with shower. The ladies, are relatively inexpensive (Room with shower I think is R22, the girl gets R70 for an hour of fun). Been there everytime I've been to Sampa and it doesn't dissapoint. The doorman can help since he speaks some English. Good luck.

Hi all,

And first of all, thank you for all these reports. I'll be happy to write one if I find something interesting. :)

I just arrived in Sampa, and I am quite impressed by the size of the city, and what I heard about it (insecurity and violence) ! My hotel is near the Avenida Paulista, so I walked along the rua Augusta. But I didn't find the ambiance and the bars very attractive (it sounded like traps). But I may be wrong ?

My big problem is I can't speak a word of Portuguese, so I am looking for some kind of house where prices would already be "negociated", or at least where I could speak English. An "all in exclusive" massage would be perfect, for example !

Best regards,

Ekios.

Chris Gomez
09-16-07, 00:57
Thanks to Peter Den's informative post (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=633345&postcount=1012), I was able to check out the massage scene in SP. Having extensively travelled in Asia Pacific, where massage parlors are everywhere, I was in the mood for a massage with a happy ending. I've bee in SP for a week now and the 3 escort agencies that I've used this past week have been quite disappointing. Do the deed and get out.

I called all four massage clinics in Peter Den's post. Clinica Antares and Clinica Cherry were easily removed on the list as noone spoke a lick of English there. My Portuguese is quite shaky, as I base it purely on my minimal knowledge of Spanish.

After having called Clinica Dra. Oyama and Clinica Quatro Estacao to ensure that someone there had some English, I made my way. Taxi from my hotel (Villa Olimpia area) was less than are$ 20, taking about 20 minutes.

My first stop was Clinica Dra. Oyama. I was quite impressed at the establishment, very clean, the person in front spoke some English, could carry on a conversation. Once again, my Portuguese is shaky, so I stuck out like a sore thumb and was immediately given the foreigner price are$ 250. I knew that Clinica Quatro Estacao was within walking distance, so I passed.

Clinica Quatro Estacao (www.quatroestacoesvip.com. Br) is actually a house in what seems like a residential neighborhood. The entrance is on the side of the house. The person that I spoke to on the phone introduced herself as Sarah, knew quite a bit of English. The Saturday price was are$ 130 and I was sold. She took me to the living room where there was six people waiting and told me that there would be about a 45 minute wait as all the rooms were taken. One of the walls in the living room had pictures of the girls, and Sarah pointed to the ones that were available. I chose LETÍCIA (http://www.quatroestacoesvip.com.br/fotos.asp?cod=20&foto=1).

I only ended up waiting 20 minutes and Sarah walked me into the room. While you are waiting, they provide drinks (water, soda, and I think I saw beer in their fridge) and also in the massage room. This being my first time, I really didn't know what to expect. When Leticia came in the room, I was a bit disappointed. The pictures are definitely Photoshopped to death, but I guess that is what you get with glamour shots. I've fallen in love with Brazilian women, so it didn't really matter. Her tits were perky, ass was just perfect, not too slim, not too big. Took a shower, then Leticia took a shower. I was told to lie down on the massage table, and she did her work. Massage was decent, but nowhere close to what I am used to in Asia Pacific. She then moved on to playing with junior and CBJ. She told me she doesn't do BBBJ. After a few minutes of the CBJ, she mounted me for several minutes, then we went to doggy, then finished it off with missionary. I had a hard time cumming as my buddy and I were out till 6 am last night and only got a couple hours of sleep. We were at it for what must have seemed at least 30 minutes. You get a full hour for the are$ 130. We only had a few minutes left after the deed, took a quick shower and that was it.

I must say that Sarah (the front receptionist) and Leticia made me feel very comfortable. Not knowing how to speak Portuguese in Brazil can be very intimidating. I would give this place a thumbs up and definitely a place to check out. The six people that I saw waiting in the living room were all locals, and didn't pay any attention to me at all. In some places that I have been to (like Malaysia), the locals don't like foreigners dipping their toes in their local spa.

Clinica Quatro Estacao is a couple of blocks away from the Metro Santa-Cruz Shopping Center. I think it's a subway station too? So if you are interested in finding this place and don't want to blow your cover, just tell the taxi to take you to the Metro Santa-Cruz Shopping Center.

Lastly, Sarah told me that she can have one of the garotas visit me in my hotel room for are$ 250. I may do this later this week as I may not have time to get to their establishment. Their are$ 130 rate is all inclusive and they didn't ask for a tip. Although, I did give Leticia and Sarah are$ 25 each for tip.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Global Exec
09-16-07, 13:01
Please tell me your pricing is Reals and not USD.


Thanks to Peter Den's informative post (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=633345&postcount=1012), I was able to check out the massage scene in SP. Having extensively travelled in Asia Pacific, where massage parlors are everywhere, I was in the mood for a massage with a happy ending. I've bee in SP for a week now and the 3 escort agencies that I've used this past week have been quite disappointing. Do the deed and get out.

I called all four massage clinics in Peter Den's post. Clinica Antares and Clinica Cherry were easily removed on the list as noone spoke a lick of English there. My Portuguese is quite shaky, as I base it purely on my minimal knowledge of Spanish.

After having called Clinica Dra. Oyama and Clinica Quatro Estacao to ensure that someone there had some English, I made my way. Taxi from my hotel (Villa Olimpia area) was less than are$ 20, taking about 20 minutes.

My first stop was Clinica Dra. Oyama. I was quite impressed at the establishment, very clean, the person in front spoke some English, could carry on a conversation. Once again, my Portuguese is shaky, so I stuck out like a sore thumb and was immediately given the foreigner price are$ 250. I knew that Clinica Quatro Estacao was within walking distance, so I passed.

Clinica Quatro Estacao (www.quatroestacoesvip.com. Br) is actually a house in what seems like a residential neighborhood. The entrance is on the side of the house. The person that I spoke to on the phone introduced herself as Sarah, knew quite a bit of English. The Saturday price was are$ 130 and I was sold. She took me to the living room where there was six people waiting and told me that there would be about a 45 minute wait as all the rooms were taken. One of the walls in the living room had pictures of the girls, and Sarah pointed to the ones that were available. I chose LETÍCIA (http://www.quatroestacoesvip.com.br/fotos.asp?cod=20&foto=1).

I only ended up waiting 20 minutes and Sarah walked me into the room. While you are waiting, they provide drinks (water, soda, and I think I saw beer in their fridge) and also in the massage room. This being my first time, I really didn't know what to expect. When Leticia came in the room, I was a bit disappointed. The pictures are definitely Photoshopped to death, but I guess that is what you get with glamour shots. I've fallen in love with Brazilian women, so it didn't really matter. Her tits were perky, ass was just perfect, not too slim, not too big. Took a shower, then Leticia took a shower. I was told to lie down on the massage table, and she did her work. Massage was decent, but nowhere close to what I am used to in Asia Pacific. She then moved on to playing with junior and CBJ. She told me she doesn't do BBBJ. After a few minutes of the CBJ, she mounted me for several minutes, then we went to doggy, then finished it off with missionary. I had a hard time cumming as my buddy and I were out till 6 am last night and only got a couple hours of sleep. We were at it for what must have seemed at least 30 minutes. You get a full hour for the are$ 130. We only had a few minutes left after the deed, took a quick shower and that was it.

I must say that Sarah (the front receptionist) and Leticia made me feel very comfortable. Not knowing how to speak Portuguese in Brazil can be very intimidating. I would give this place a thumbs up and definitely a place to check out. The six people that I saw waiting in the living room were all locals, and didn't pay any attention to me at all. In some places that I have been to (like Malaysia), the locals don't like foreigners dipping their toes in their local spa.

Clinica Quatro Estacao is a couple of blocks away from the Metro Santa-Cruz Shopping Center. I think it's a subway station too? So if you are interested in finding this place and don't want to blow your cover, just tell the taxi to take you to the Metro Santa-Cruz Shopping Center.

Lastly, Sarah told me that she can have one of the garotas visit me in my hotel room for are$ 250. I may do this later this week as I may not have time to get to their establishment. Their are$ 130 rate is all inclusive and they didn't ask for a tip. Although, I did give Leticia and Sarah are$ 25 each for tip.

Robertlopes6071
09-16-07, 15:35
As the girl I recommended to Chris Gomez (#1060), Julia, turned out not to speak English very well (see Fredyann's #1062 and #1064), Chris had a so-so experience with a (in my opinion) too expensive garota (#1065). I felt really, really bad about Chris and Fredyann, so I decided I should contact her again to see what was going on. I also met a different garota, to have a fresh Sao Paulo report to share.

I found out that Julia answers her emails herself, but she has a friend (another girl, but not a garota de programa) translate them. That's the reason I didn't have any trouble communicating with her at first. It usually takes her some time to answer, as well, because she doesn't have Internet at home. She must be using an Internet cafe or something like that.

Anyway, Julia came to my hotel on Thursday and I paid $140 for more than three hours of fun. Again, I talked to her using a little Portuguese and quite a bit of Spanish (btw, in Sao Paulo they call that bizarre combination of languages "portunhol": portuguese+espanhol). I was really looking forward to seeing her after my amazing first experiences.

It was not disappointing at all: her kisses are deep, and she truly enjoys what she does. I worked on her pussy for nearly half an hour and she came twice (no fake). Then, she rewarded me with a couple of blowjobs with happy endings in her mouth. We also did some anal, although I enjoyed kissing her so much that we spent a lot of time in the missionary position (vaginal). I managed to come three times. After that, I had dinner with her in a restaurant not far from my hotel. You have her info in http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=641177&postcount=1060.

I also had time to try another GP on Friday, before coming back to the US, Livia Andrade, who is also my kind of garota: young-looking, well-educated, pretty face, and great body. She doesn't do anal, but that's not a big deal because her oral is fantastic and she is really good in bed. I would not recommend her over my first choice, but she is still another good option if you drop by Sao Paulo. She DOESN'T speak English, though, sorry :-)

http://www.sexlog.com.br/sexlog.php?id=liviaandrade
Her contact info is here (first message, at the bottom): http://www.gpguia.net/phpbb/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=43171&highlight=livia+andrade

Some friends have talked about massage parlors and clubs, and I don't really have information on those. What I usually do in Sao Paulo is to call the GPs to my hotel room. It is easier, more private, and more fun :-) If you have trouble with portuguese, you can visit these websites, that offer not only useful "survival" sentences, but a few also include mp3 files with their pronunciation:

http://www.sonia-portuguese.com/text/phrases.htm
http://www.smartphrase.com/Portuguese/po_general_words_phr.shtml
http://help.berberber.com/forum65/8634-vocabulary-english-portuguese-survival-sentences-portuguese-part-1-a.html

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Mangera
09-16-07, 18:40
I have read so many reports about massage places in SP, its just amazing how many establishments of this kind exist in such a large city such as SP. I think creating a thread for SP massage parlors would be very helpful. It would be helpful in the process of comparing them. Just a thought.

Mangera
09-16-07, 18:47
I really don't know much when it comes to SP as compared to other cities I have visited in Brasil. One thing is for sure, its more expensive for the hobby as compared to the rest of Brasil for the most part.

Just curious as to know if there are any special events ( e.g. festivals, local elections )going on in November that would either make my trip even better or worse during the week of Thanksgiving. I know Brasilians do not celebrate our Holiday, thats a given, just mentioned it as a point of reference because thats when I am planning on going.

Any other member I know planning on also being there during that time? Thanks, laters!

Off Road
09-16-07, 21:46
I was in Kilt friday night, no topless dancing and just strip show. The girls in there were saying that all the clubs with rooms in them have been shutdown by the government (Bomboa, Bahamas, and others). They also said Cafe Photo was closed. Not sure if this is really true, but they seemed concerned.

Sui Generis
09-17-07, 04:52
Any other member I know planning on also being there during that time? Thanks, laters!

I'll be there the first two weeks of November.

Peter Den
09-17-07, 06:08
Hi Chris:

Glad the clinic information was helpful. What they charge at Dra. Oyama is $R150 for massage which includes a "manual release". For FS, the girls will charge you another are$100 which you pay directly to them. Are$250 is what they charge the locals. I like Dra. Oyama because it is a first class establishment, very clean. It is one of nicest massage place I've been to. Dra. Oyama is the closest massage clinic that I've been in Brasil that is comparable to Thailand, but Thailand is better. You should try Dra. Oyama at least once. You will find the service to be better. :.)

As far as tipping, they are no tipping in Brasil at these massage clinics. That is one of reasons I like Brasil over Thailand. The girls are not all over you either before or afterwards begging for a tip.

Later


Thanks to Peter Den's informative post (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=633345&postcount=1012), I was able to check out the massage scene in SP. Having extensively travelled in Asia Pacific, where massage parlors are everywhere, I was in the mood for a massage with a happy ending. I've bee in SP for a week now and the 3 escort agencies that I've used this past week have been quite disappointing. Do the deed and get out.

I called all four massage clinics in Peter Den's post. Clinica Antares and Clinica Cherry were easily removed on the list as noone spoke a lick of English there. My Portuguese is quite shaky, as I base it purely on my minimal knowledge of Spanish.

After having called Clinica Dra. Oyama and Clinica Quatro Estacao to ensure that someone there had some English, I made my way. Taxi from my hotel (Villa Olimpia area) was less than are$ 20, taking about 20 minutes.

My first stop was Clinica Dra. Oyama. I was quite impressed at the establishment, very clean, the person in front spoke some English, could carry on a conversation. Once again, my Portuguese is shaky, so I stuck out like a sore thumb and was immediately given the foreigner price are$ 250. I knew that Clinica Quatro Estacao was within walking distance, so I passed.

Clinica Quatro Estacao (www.quatroestacoesvip.com. Br) is actually a house in what seems like a residential neighborhood. The entrance is on the side of the house. The person that I spoke to on the phone introduced herself as Sarah, knew quite a bit of English. The Saturday price was are$ 130 and I was sold. She took me to the living room where there was six people waiting and told me that there would be about a 45 minute wait as all the rooms were taken. One of the walls in the living room had pictures of the girls, and Sarah pointed to the ones that were available. I chose LETÍCIA (http://www.quatroestacoesvip.com.br/fotos.asp?cod=20&foto=1).

I only ended up waiting 20 minutes and Sarah walked me into the room. While you are waiting, they provide drinks (water, soda, and I think I saw beer in their fridge) and also in the massage room. This being my first time, I really didn't know what to expect. When Leticia came in the room, I was a bit disappointed. The pictures are definitely Photoshopped to death, but I guess that is what you get with glamour shots. I've fallen in love with Brazilian women, so it didn't really matter. Her tits were perky, ass was just perfect, not too slim, not too big. Took a shower, then Leticia took a shower. I was told to lie down on the massage table, and she did her work. Massage was decent, but nowhere close to what I am used to in Asia Pacific. She then moved on to playing with junior and CBJ. She told me she doesn't do BBBJ. After a few minutes of the CBJ, she mounted me for several minutes, then we went to doggy, then finished it off with missionary. I had a hard time cumming as my buddy and I were out till 6 am last night and only got a couple hours of sleep. We were at it for what must have seemed at least 30 minutes. You get a full hour for the are$ 130. We only had a few minutes left after the deed, took a quick shower and that was it.

I must say that Sarah (the front receptionist) and Leticia made me feel very comfortable. Not knowing how to speak Portuguese in Brazil can be very intimidating. I would give this place a thumbs up and definitely a place to check out. The six people that I saw waiting in the living room were all locals, and didn't pay any attention to me at all. In some places that I have been to (like Malaysia), the locals don't like foreigners dipping their toes in their local spa.

Clinica Quatro Estacao is a couple of blocks away from the Metro Santa-Cruz Shopping Center. I think it's a subway station too? So if you are interested in finding this place and don't want to blow your cover, just tell the taxi to take you to the Metro Santa-Cruz Shopping Center.

Lastly, Sarah told me that she can have one of the garotas visit me in my hotel room for are$ 250. I may do this later this week as I may not have time to get to their establishment. Their are$ 130 rate is all inclusive and they didn't ask for a tip. Although, I did give Leticia and Sarah are$ 25 each for tip.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Genghis Khan
09-17-07, 12:47
I was in Kilt friday night, no topless dancing and just strip show. The girls in there were saying that all the clubs with rooms in them have been shutdown by the government (Bomboa, Bahamas, and others). They also said Cafe Photo was closed. Not sure if this is really true, but they seemed concerned.

Can anybody confirm this? Nothing about this on the gpguia. I am planing my next trip to SP shortly but will cancel if this rumour proves to be true.

GK

Brugal8
09-17-07, 15:14
It seems that the government is on a crusade to close down all the boates.

Hopefully, they will all reopen because as you all know this is not the first time they have closed them.

The thing is all of these boates represent big business so eventually I think they will open again because if they continue to do what they are doing and kill de p4p scene in sao paulo the tourism in that city is going to suffer a lot.

Genghis Khan
09-17-07, 16:55
Apparently Cafe Foto and W.E. are not closed down.

GK

Chris Gomez
09-17-07, 22:38
Please tell me your pricing is Reals and not USD.Yes, the prices that I've quoted are R$.

BrasilForever
09-18-07, 10:25
Has anyone had to commute be/t Guarulhos and Congas to catch a flight? I am flying into Guarulhos on a Sunday, and need to catch a flight from Congas. I have about 6 hours to kill. First, is a cab ride a good idea? Second, any advise on how to kill a few hours on a Sunday afternoon?

Thank you for your help.

Oralover
09-18-07, 18:09
Has anyone had to commute be/t Guarulhos and Congas to catch a flight? I am flying into Guarulhos on a Sunday, and need to catch a flight from Congas. I have about 6 hours to kill. First, is a cab ride a good idea? Second, any advise on how to kill a few hours on a Sunday afternoon?

Thank you for your help.TAM Airlines transfered a bunch of us between the two last week because of a delayed flight. They said it would be 40 minutes, took about 70 minutes in a van.

Loso69
09-18-07, 20:06
E Garcia,

There are buses from Guarulhos to Congonhas airport. If you wanna get laid during your layover, you'll have to decide where to go and find out how best to get there.

Loso

Rio Regular
09-19-07, 21:10
Can anybody confirm this? Nothing about this on the gpguia. I am planing my next trip to SP shortly but will cancel if this rumour proves to be true.

GK

Confirmed. I was just there last night.

Brain666
09-19-07, 21:44
first time ever in brazil and hit a 10 in my eyes – wow

this is my first monger report in the south america section, brazil and sao paulo as i just had my first business trip to this country. thanks for answering some basic questions i had.

of course i will reward this with a report here.

i am usually active in the asian region where i am a ‘western’ resident. i like asian girls as my favourite taste is rather slimmer then wider and don’t care of smaller tits if they fit to slim bodies. the overall composition of the slim (not thin) girl with long legs is what drives me crazy usually. i rtff’d the forum and had a look at the pictures. usually the rio girls are more my taste then what i have seen in sao paulo, but only about 20% hit my specification.

still good enough to try, as for sure i wanted to sample ‘brazilian experience from the origin’ during the trip. for safety reasons i didn’t bring my private computer in addition to the business computer (i never use my business computer for any mongering activities – just to be clean there, so i had to prepare carefully.

found recent loso69 reports interesting (thanks loso) and decided to follow his tracks.

my time limited and also filled with business churrasceria meals until late night i started right in the second night after arrival (first night i had to compensate some of the 12 h time difference and 30h flight time).

dialled the number of patricia kimberly, the porn star that gave loso69 such a great experience. unfortunately not successful. she is busy for sure.

then checked the termas prepared and decided to give eu & elas my first try ever in a brazilian termas. knowing german fkk, now this is first impression of a newcomer in brazil. i found out (probably not new to the experts here) that the setup is exactly the same as in those german fkk’s (but i think termas have been first, so the germans copied and this very well – thanks).

taxi found it easy (showed internet print) and from downtown hotel it was just 17 reais.
safety guard in front. you are welcomed.
i went in and got a wristband with a number and key for safety box without paying anything. you can decide to go to sauna (bathrobe) or just sit there in your street clothes in the bar room and watch the scenery. as a newcomer i settled down at the bar, a beautiful dark skinned girl catched my eye, we started to communicate, but i don’t speak any portuguese and she doesn’t speak any english. so she sat down 2 meter away. ordered a caipirinha.

checked the room and the buffet, took some of the snacks and watched the scenery.
rooms are not so large and look a bit like a run down fkk. the girls are average to beauty. my star was the black skinned one who greeted me first and exactly matched my taste. with clothes promising for 8-10, depending what was under the hot pants and t-shirt. some with a bit too much butt for my taste (but maybe hitting others taste).
tried to communicate in english unsuccessfully and finally asked another girl to show me around. nothing really great fancy, but clean. sauna, tv room, relaxes room and upstairs many private rooms.

settled back to the bar, ordered my second drink (included in the 75 reai’s entrance fee).
after settling the girl who showed me around joined me. tried to talk also to another girl next to me, but also no english. after a wile they asked if it was ok to still join me. as all didn’t speak english, i asked my black beauty to join me as well. she came next to me. after a while the other girls ‘asked’ if i wanted to join with more then one, but my gesture made clear i wanted to sit with the beauty who introduced herself as miss s.
the other girls stepped back a bit and i offered miss s a drink.
while we both had a drink i moved her chair closer to mine. i tested a bit the water and gfe (little) and got confident that she may dfk.

we somehow communicated pricing and time: 150 reais for 1 h. seemed to be house standard like a german fkk, so didn’t bother to negotiate knowing that looso69 paid the same. we agreed and she picked up a kit with towel and condom.

in the room we started slowly and i slowly revealed piece by piece the clothes incl. kissing. wow what a choice: it turned out that she was my personal 10 or close to it.
exactly as i like them! slim body, perfectly fitting b cups (looking like b+ at the small body) – exactly how i like it and an ass, i am always dreaming from. in addition a nice face. almost black skin, which doesn’t stop me, it is rather a rare alternative.

the flight, time zone change and the long business day still in the bones, i was not up for acrobatics and rabbit like fucking, slow was the pace i wanted (and needed).
during and after the shower it turned out that she was the total gfe and probably liking the slow pace and kissing she got wetter and wetter the more i kissed her, her dfk turned into a ‘[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) ddddfk’). she made a short and intensive blow, but was already exited enough to put it in (covered quickly) cowboy style. she enjoyed it we changed positions; i enjoyed the slow pace with a dream girl to fuck got control about her. she breathed and breathed, actually i don’t know if she could come, it seamed so, but not sure. i finally couldn’t hold myself anymore with this beauty and pumped into the rubber.

we removed the condom and stayed together still kissing. she kissed (almost eating me) more and more (like i enjoy to do with the girls), she felt comfortable more and more.
we (she) ignored 2 time knocking at the door (75 min already passed). finally we got dressed under a lot of kissing. i asked for the phone number and got it. she got her 150 reais. coming down the stairs we have been the last couple, all girls gone already (around 0:15 h). i paid 15o reais at the counter. (i guess: 75 entrance with 2 drinks, 1 girl drink 25 and 1 ‘kit’ 50 ??).

qow wow wow, what a dream girl the first girl ever in brazil.

next night was again business night and i returned back to the hotel 22:00h. didn’t want to look for new one, wanted to try her over night. i phoned her, could reach her, but we couldn’t understand. wanted to have her at my hotel directly. miss-communication and misunderstanding. so i headed to the club to pick her up, as i understood she was there. arrived and ------ sh.t, she was not there. first thought she might be busy and i started to communicate to other girls to ask for miss s.

it turned out she wasn’t there. they told me she is not here today. then i motivated the other girl to call her and ask her to come. they enjoyed this and ‘asked’ if i was in love. i admitted and they enjoyed more. then the next question took me another 5 minutes to understand. i was asked if i would pay her entrance fee, which i confirmed. (so the setup is like fkk, where also the girls pay entrance like males and therefore can keep all the money for themselves). i offered the other girl helping to communicate a drink several times but she refused all the time. she just wanted to know if i was thinking for e 3 some or 2 some. anyhow nice touch as i like in general the house rules which probably allow the girls to approach only of customer request by gesture.

after about 10 minutes she arrived and greeted me with big dfk kiss. the other girls enjoyed and she probably she felt proud that she got so requested. i ordered a drink for her. we communicated and i made a paper offering 250 reais for overnight until 6:00h (when i had to get up). she agreed happily (probably 200 r also ok).
i paid 75 reais entrance fee (expected 150, but she probably managed to get in for free)

we returned by taxi she took my hand while walking the ‘walk of shame’, but not too many people at reception an as well not too many other guests. the night manager saw us, made slightly ‘knowing eye role’, but didn’t bother. (renaissance hotel)

in the room we again started slowly. shower was more separate due to space but we enjoyed each others towel service.

don’t go to more descriptive details, but it turned out that miss s was the best and excited gfe i had over years. she was like a little cat in my arms. she felt totally comfortable and so did i. lots of kissing. as well she enjoyed the sex. we did two rounds over night (one after shower and one in the morning). she was open for photos (see attached). what a pleasure to have such a beautiful exciting body next to me.
could almost fall in love. this was a top notch ‘bull’s eye’ experience. can’t believe that this can go any better.

enclosed are some pictures. as i couldn’t confirm with her i am reluctant to show the face (which i rate a 9 on my scale). but what you see o body is a 10 for my taste. 100 % match. i love brazil. in 4 weeks i am back.


regards
brain666

now to the pictures:

01: how i met her in the club –this is my type
02: great view from the rear and long hair
03: breast size perfectly fitting to body (my taste!)
04: natural b (+?) under shower. i like this size – may never fall
05: front view perfection
06: all the beauty under shower – this is my personal 10
07: i love this body
08: close up pussy and hips
09: beautiful ass with pants
10: naked ass with pants – ass perfection (my ass taste!) – i love this ass.

Brain666
09-19-07, 21:50
Dear mongers,
in addition to the below (last) article I want to give you more views of my lovely most beautiful personal 10 as I could enjoy in the hotel room.
Can’t believe that this is beatable. Considering that this beauty was a perfect mega GFE I am heading for clear repeat during next stay. This is body language for perfection. We promised that I will study Portuguese and she will study English. Lets see. We are talking body language now.

11: arriving in the hotel front view
12: arriving in the hotel rear view
13: during the deed
14: My personal 10 on my bed – she smiles – does she love me as I love her?
15: I can take hundreds of pictures of this lovely
16: My dream body – was under my pillow – was snuggling like a young cat
17: Side views – please see this legs how they fit to the rest of this body
18: She smiles as I am nice to her – you can only be nice to such a beauty
19: The pussy close up from the front.
20: Close up Ass with pussy- Ass for perfection – can everybody belive how I enjoyed?


Regards

Brain666

Piper1
09-19-07, 22:08
Great report and pics Brain666. Thanks for the details - seems the place works much like Showboat and other "sex clubs" I visited in Amsterdam i.e., Locker, towel, armband, buffet, girls, girls, girls ...

Looks like your girl loves you long time. ;)

All going to plan, I'll be in Rio next year, and there are now direct flights from Dubai to Sao Paulo, so I might stay a night or two in SP on the way, to kill the jetlag before I start business (and to find your sweetie). ;)

Maybe on future trips you can shorten your travel time and jet-lag by flying from Asia to SP via Dubai (even better, have a couple of nights lay-over in Dubai for extra fun, especially if you like slim black women).

Mangera
09-19-07, 23:56
first time ever in brazil and hit a 10 in my eyes – wow

this is my first monger report in the south america section, brazil and sao paulo as i just had my first business trip to this country. thanks for answering some basic questions i had.

of course i will reward this with a report here.

i am usually active in the asian region where i am a ‘western’ resident. i like asian girls as my favourite taste is rather slimmer then wider and don’t care of smaller tits if they fit to slim bodies. the overall composition of the slim (not thin) girl with long legs is what drives me crazy usually. i rtff’d the forum and had a look at the pictures. usually the rio girls are more my taste then what i have seen in sao paulo, but only about 20% hit my specification.

still good enough to try, as for sure i wanted to sample ‘brazilian experience from the origin’ during the trip. for safety reasons i didn’t bring my private computer in addition to the business computer (i never use my business computer for any mongering activities – just to be clean there, so i had to prepare carefully.

found recent loso69 reports interesting (thanks loso) and decided to follow his tracks.

my time limited and also filled with business churrasceria meals until late night i started right in the second night after arrival (first night i had to compensate some of the 12 h time difference and 30h flight time).

dialled the number of patricia kimberly, the porn star that gave loso69 such a great experience. unfortunately not successful. she is busy for sure.

then checked the termas prepared and decided to give eu & elas my first try ever in a brazilian termas. knowing german fkk, now this is first impression of a newcomer in brazil. i found out (probably not new to the experts here) that the setup is exactly the same as in those german fkk’s (but i think termas have been first, so the germans copied and this very well – thanks).

taxi found it easy (showed internet print) and from downtown hotel it was just 17 reais.
safety guard in front. you are welcomed.
i went in and got a wristband with a number and key for safety box without paying anything. you can decide to go to sauna (bathrobe) or just sit there in your street clothes in the bar room and watch the scenery. as a newcomer i settled down at the bar, a beautiful dark skinned girl catched my eye, we started to communicate, but i don’t speak any portuguese and she doesn’t speak any english. so she sat down 2 meter away. ordered a caipirinha.

checked the room and the buffet, took some of the snacks and watched the scenery.
rooms are not so large and look a bit like a run down fkk. the girls are average to beauty. my star was the black skinned one who greeted me first and exactly matched my taste. with clothes promising for 8-10, depending what was under the hot pants and t-shirt. some with a bit too much butt for my taste (but maybe hitting others taste).
tried to communicate in english unsuccessfully and finally asked another girl to show me around. nothing really great fancy, but clean. sauna, tv room, relaxes room and upstairs many private rooms.

settled back to the bar, ordered my second drink (included in the 75 reai’s entrance fee).
after settling the girl who showed me around joined me. tried to talk also to another girl next to me, but also no english. after a wile they asked if it was ok to still join me. as all didn’t speak english, i asked my black beauty to join me as well. she came next to me. after a while the other girls ‘asked’ if i wanted to join with more then one, but my gesture made clear i wanted to sit with the beauty who introduced herself as miss s.
the other girls stepped back a bit and i offered miss s a drink.
while we both had a drink i moved her chair closer to mine. i tested a bit the water and gfe (little) and got confident that she may dfk.

we somehow communicated pricing and time: 150 reais for 1 h. seemed to be house standard like a german fkk, so didn’t bother to negotiate knowing that looso69 paid the same. we agreed and she picked up a kit with towel and condom.

in the room we started slowly and i slowly revealed piece by piece the clothes incl. kissing. wow what a choice: it turned out that she was my personal 10 or close to it.
exactly as i like them! slim body, perfectly fitting b cups (looking like b+ at the small body) – exactly how i like it and an ass, i am always dreaming from. in addition a nice face. almost black skin, which doesn’t stop me, it is rather a rare alternative.

the flight, time zone change and the lung business day still in the bones, i was not up for acrobatics and rabbit like fucking, slow was the pace i wanted (and needed).
during and after the shower it turned out that she was the total gfe and probably liking the slow pace and kissing she got whether and whether the more i kissed her, her dfk turned into a ‘[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) ddddfk’). she made a short and intensive blow, but was already exited enough to put it in (covered quickly) cowboy style. she enjoyed it we changed positions; i enjoyed the slow pace with a dream girl to fuck got control about her. she breathed and breathed, actually i don’t know if she could come, it seamed so, but not sure. i finally couldn’t hold myself anymore with this beauty and pumped into the rubber.

we removed the condom and stayed together still kissing. she kissed (almost eating me) more and more (like i enjoy to do with the girls), she felt comfortable more and more.
we (she) ignored 2 time knocking at the door (75 min already passed). finally we got dressed under a lot of kissing. i asked for the phone number and got it. she got her 150 reais. coming down the stairs we have been the last couple, all girls gone already (around 0:15 h). i paid 15o reais at the counter. (i guess: 75 entrance with 2 drinks, 1 girl drink 25 and 1 ‘kit’ 50 ??).

qow wow wow, what a dream girl the first girl ever in brazil.

next night was again business night and i returned back to the hotel 22:00h. didn’t want to look for new one, wanted to try her over night. i phoned her, could reach her, but we couldn’t understand. wanted to have her at my hotel directly. miss-communication and misunderstanding. so i headed to the club to pick her up, as i understood she was there. arrived and ------ sh.t, she was not there. first thought she might be busy and i started to communicate to other girls to ask for miss s.

it turned out she wasn’t there. they told me she is not here today. then i motivated the other girl to call her and ask her to come. they enjoyed this and ‘asked’ if i was in love. i admitted and they enjoyed more. then the next question took me another 5 minutes to understand. i was asked if i would pay her entrance fee, which i confirmed. (so the setup is like fkk, where also the girls pay entrance like males and therefore can keep all the money for themselves). i offered the other girl helping to communicate a drink several times but she refused all the time. she just wanted to know if i was thinking for e 3 some or 2 some. anyhow nice touch as i like in general the house rules which probably allow the girls to approach only of customer request by gesture.

after about 10 minutes she arrived and greeted me with big dfk kiss. the other girls enjoyed and she probably she felt proud that she got so requested. i ordered a drink for her. we communicated and i made a paper offering 250 reais for overnight until 6:00h (when i had to get up). she agreed happily (probably 200 r also ok).
i paid 75 reais entrance fee (expected 150, but she probably managed to get in for free)

we returned by taxi she took my hand while walking the ‘walk of shame’, but not too many people at reception an as well not too many other guests. the night manager saw us, made slightly ‘knowing eye role’, but didn’t bother. (renaissance hotel)

in the room we again started slowly. shower was more separate due to space but we enjoyed each others towel service.

don’t go to more descriptive details, but it turned out that miss s was the best and excited gfe i had over years. she was like a little cat in my arms. she felt totally comfortable and so did i. lots of kissing. as well she enjoyed the sex. we did two rounds over night (one after shower and one in the morning). she was open for photos (see attached). what a pleasure to have such a beautiful exciting body next to me.
could almost fall in love. this was a top notch ‘bull’s eye’ experience. can’t believe that this can go any better.

enclosed are some pictures. as i couldn’t confirm with her i am reluctant to show the face (which i rate a 9 on my scale). but what you see o body is a 10 for my taste. 100 % match. i love brazil. in 4 weeks i am back.


regards
brain666

now to the pictures:

01: how i met her in the club –this is my type
02: great view from the rear and long hair
03: breast size perfectly fitting to body (my taste!)
04: natural b (+?) under shower. i like this size – may never fall
05: front view perfection
06: all the beauty under shower – this is my personal 10
07: i love this body
08: close up pussy and hips
09: beautiful ass with pants
10: naked ass with pants – ass perfection (my ass taste!) – i love this ass.

i think the enthusiasm and passion for from your brazilian experience comes to light when reading your report. sir, the high you are feeling is what many brasil lovers have felt their first time around in paradise, and its like a drug, it just keeps you comming back for more. no need for rehab on this one.

i am glad you had a wonderful time and all i can add or suggest to help you surpass your newbie experience to brasil, would be to learn the basics of the language and hopefully more down the line. its going to enhance your experiences to the tenth power. thanks for the report, and be safe. laters!

Oralover
09-20-07, 07:30
Just wanted to thank everyone for all their information. It is so helpful to have all your years of experience to rely on.

I am in Brazil for a few weeks with coworkers who would not look kindly on me bringing a garota to my room. I have been waiting for when we get to Rio to try the termas everyone talks about; but for now I am in Sao Paulo in Villa Olimpia.

After reading all the SP reports, I realized The Palms was only blocks from my hotel. I heard that all the women there were gorgeous, and the reports weren't wrong. I know it costs a bit more (now R$170 for enterance and room for 1 hour, and an extra R$150 for the girl) but still not bad in comparison to prices back home.

I picked Naomi, who was the best looking Morena in the book that was available. The book says she is 22, but she told me she was 25. When she came into the room, I couldn't believe it. She was gorgeous....better looking than her photos in the book. I was in heaven. Sexy smile, gorgeous face, fit with a nice round but firm ass, and the most beautiful mocha skin colour.

though her BBBJ left allot to be desired, the rest was amazing.

That was probably the sexiest woman I have ever had the pleasure of being with, and I've played around allot in Holland and Germany. So once again, thank you all for helping me find what I was looking for.

I may even go back tomorrow for lunch :-)

The only regret is that I forgot my camera; and now the Palms doens't show their girls on their website. Does anyone have pics of Naomi, or know links to sites that do?

Genghis Khan
09-20-07, 10:51
Confirmed. I was just there last night.

What is confirmed? That Bahamas and Cafe Millenium are closed or that other clubs are closed too?

GK

Almotu
09-21-07, 05:33
If you are that close to Rua Augusta, the place to visit is New Maison (650 Rua Augusta). The place is cheap, clean, rooms with shower. The ladies, are relatively inexpensive (Room with shower I think is R22, the girl gets R70 for an hour of fun). Been there everytime I've been to Sampa and it doesn't dissapoint. The doorman can help since he speaks some English. Good luck.When is the best time to go there? The line-up was pretty disappointing to me when I went there 2 months ago. But I did go there around 9-10pm. I have heard that Augusta gets hopping after midnight, but I prefer to get a nut off earlier in the night otherwise I get too tired.

Surferr3
09-21-07, 06:25
I have the same experience every time I travel to SP. I think that EVERY girl I hook up with is the best of my life. There are sooooooo many options in the city. You are a lucky man to be there for a few weeks. I think you need to come down with a "stomach flu" one night and skip the dinner with your work associates. Then you should head out to Bahamas or another high end club and sample the nightlife.

Voyajer1
09-21-07, 06:34
I am there usually after 11:00pm when their staffs are at full strenght. I can remember my very first trip to Brazi back in 2005, that was the first spot I hit. I landed at the airport and walked from the Crown Plaza to the New Maison. Once there, the doorman (Who is still there by the way) explained the details of the place and unable to speak any Portuguese ( I do speak Spanish) sessioned twice in one hour with a 5'10 Amazonian named Rafaela (Measurements about 34"B, 25, 34, not an ounce of fat and a six pack to boot!) who I am still unable to locate for a repeat performance. After that initial encounter, I was hooked! Ever since, this has been the first spot I hit anytime I visit Brazil (I go through Sao Paolo usually). In addition, there are so many choices in Augusta that you just can't go wrong. Just get there a little later when the establishments begin to hop. Good luck.


When is the best time to go there? The line-up was pretty disappointing to me when I went there 2 months ago. But I did go there around 9-10pm. I have heard that Augusta gets hopping after midnight, but I prefer to get a nut off earlier in the night otherwise I get too tired.

Almotu
09-21-07, 06:46
I found out that Julia answers her emails herself, but she has a friend (another girl, but not a garota de programa) translate them. That's the reason I didn't have any trouble communicating with her at first. It usually takes her some time to answer, as well, because she doesn't have Internet at home. She must be using an Internet cafe or something like that.

Anyway, Julia came to my hotel on Thursday and I paid $140 for more than three hours of fun. Again, I talked to her using a little Portuguese and quite a bit of Spanish (btw, in Sao Paulo they call that bizarre combination of languages "portunhol": portuguese+espanhol). I was really looking forward to seeing her after my amazing first experiences.Hey Robert, I had stumbled across Julia's ad on various GDP sites and found her photos alluring. Did you take any photos of her that you don't mind sharing? I also visited the links that you posted. So, she sticks to the pricing on her website - $R200 + $R80 for the extra hour? Was she a clockwatcher? Was the BBBJCIM, her idea or did you negotiate for it? She seems to still be relatively new to the 'game' because she had not too many reviews on GPguia. I am looking forward to trying her out in late October. Thanks in advance for any additional thoughts about her that you can post.

Oralover
09-21-07, 23:13
Well, I said I may go back to the Palms for lunch the next day, and I did.
I have to admit that I have nothing else to compare it to in Brazil (so far); but I really like the establishment. Has a spa like feel to it... very clean, very relaxing. One of the guys who works there (I think his name is George) speaks english and is very helpful. He can also suggest good restaurants in the neighbourhood.

I was on a really tight schedule this time, so I wasn't able to wait for any of the girls who were busy (which included Naomi and Luxo who had caught my eye the day before). But then I saw that Cindy was available and remembered that Loso69 had said that Karen Roche was now working at The Palms under the name Cindy.

Cindy doesn't speak much english, but my basic spanish and very limited portuguese allowed us to communicate quite well. She is incredibly beautiful and watching her in the mirror while you're fucking on all fours is like watching a porn film. Though Cindy did agree to BBBJ, her technique was pretty bad and it was the first time I ever wished a girl would stop sucking my cock.

Overall, I would say Cindy is playful, fun and quite beautiful. And though I am happy I had the opportunity to (as Loso said) fuck a bona fide playboy bunny; if I ever find myself at The Palms again, I would probably give her a pass.

Surferr3: I'm actually not in Sp for the rest of the trip, I left there today. Travelling around brazil until Oct 8th.

Chris Gomez
09-23-07, 19:22
I'm back home to the western world and I'm going through withdrawals. I've traveled to 30+ countries in my lifetime and have tasted a bit of each country, with only one exception (Saudi Arabai). I've never gone through such withdrawals. I miss the garotas, the food, and did I mention, that I miss the garotas. I can't wait to go back. Here is a recap of my last few days in SP.

http://sexdreams.com.br/acompanhantes/ac002586/index.php

I really fancy the massage scene, but couldn't make it there one night. I ordered room service and decided to give Carol Mendes a try. Waited an hour and a half, and was charged R$250 + $40 USD for taxi. She got to my hotel pretty late, so the hotel escorted her to my room (an embarrasing moment) and I got tacked another $50 USD for having someone stay over in my room. As with my previous 5+ room service experience during my stay at SP, I got the typical bait and switch. The girl that I got was not the girl advertised. Pretty disappointing experience, especially for what I paid. The only consolation here was that the garota did allow DATY and plenty of tongue action.

So for my last three nights in SP, I just had to make a trip to my favourite massage parlor - www.quatroestacoesvip.com.br. I usually prefer loira's over morena's, but this one night, I was recommended by Sarah (the receptionist)to give Camilla a try as her speciality is to provide a great massage.

Oh boy, was I not disappointed. Not only did Camilla give a great massage, but she is truly a GFE. Allowed DATY, plenty of DFK, BL and AR. What really threw me over the edge was the body massage. It is quite comparable to what I normally get in Thailand. The next two nights, I ended up sticking with Camilla and she didn't let me down (no pun intended here).

Thanks again Peter Den for showing me this great place!!!! I didn't make it to Clinica Dra. Oyama this time around, but it's definitely a place that I must check out the next time I am in town.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

BionicMan
09-24-07, 19:05
Hi Folks
as anyone ever experienced to girls said to hang around Cafè Foto, asnwering at the names of Cleia or Luiza (black long hair, in her mid 20's) and Paula (21yo, paulista)
A friend recommended the first one, but sounded a bit too enthusiast (it was his first ever mongering experience in Brazil) as I might meet one or both of them shortly, any feedback on her/their behaviour in action on the bed is more than welcome.
I never experienced Cafè Foto girls, but other freelancers, including a nice GFE with Mel from M-Class (to return the feedback favour!)
I should be able to get PM's in a some 10 days as soon as my account is activated (it will!)
B.

Periander
09-24-07, 23:00
Went there twice. Great place! The deal is that you get 1 hour at 100R or 1/2 hour at 80R, but must be there before 5 pm for the 80R offer. First day only had 3 to choose from, but second day had 7. Chose Camila the second day (can't remember who I had the first day, but she was tall and very good as well). Camila has an excellent rack, although a little on the chunky side, but definitely not in a bad way. I was only offered CBJ both times, and was told by Camila that the back door is not open for business. Did DFK, 69, and DATY on both occasions.

Each room has a massage table, and area on the floor to place the mat, and a shower. I never used the table, and the mat can be somewhat uncomfortable.

You can walk to Kin from the Morumbi Hilton. I did the roundtrip twice, but it's about 1. 5 miles each way. As you go down Petroni look for the Shell station on the right, about 3/4 mile from the Morumbi shopping mall. Turn right just after the Shell station (the road sign is very hard to see). Go one block to the cross street and you will see an umbrella on the corner to the left. There will be one or two guys outside at the umbrella who will make sure you get in ok.

Almotu
09-25-07, 03:32
Well, I said I may go back to the Palms for lunch the next day, and I did.
I have to admit that I have nothing else to compare it to in Brazil (so far); but I really like the establishment. Has a spa like feel to it... very clean, very relaxing.May I ask what was the total cost each time you went there? Include the house costs, what you paid the individual girl plus R/T taxi costs? I have read all the raves about The Palms here … so I guess I will be stopping by when I get into town in late October. But I have always enjoyed myself at less expensive MPs like Clinica Kin, Cherry and Antares.

Oralover
09-25-07, 08:36
May I ask what was the total cost each time you went there? Include the house costs, what you paid the individual girl plus R/T taxi costs? I have read all the raves about The Palms here … so I guess I will be stopping by when I get into town in late October. But I have always enjoyed myself at less expensive MPs like Clinica Kin, Cherry and Antares.The cost was are$170 to the house and are$200 to the girl (paid in the room) I love walking, and it wasn't that far. So no taxis. I didn't have the time to check out the other clinics. I am now in Rio checking out the termas. Amazing how the scene is so differnet in the same country.

Almotu
09-26-07, 16:11
Which means about $175US for the hour FS? Did you get BBBJ? I remember I went to Francebel once which WAS the high end MP a couple of years ago and even with the 'gift' the girl would only CBJ - saying it was the hygenic rule of the house.

Oralover
09-26-07, 17:24
Which means about $175US for the hour FS? Did you get BBBJ? I remember I went to Francebel once which WAS the high end MP a couple of years ago and even with the 'gift' the girl would only CBJ - saying it was the hygenic rule of the house.Well, Naomi said no to BBBJ when I first asked at the beginning of the session; but she ending up kissing an licking my cock and balls for a good little while (very sexy when she was staring up at me). She wouldn't suck on it or deep throat it though. It was more than I expected form someone who said no to BBBJ, so I was pleasantly surprised.

Cindy however said yes to BBBJ and her performance was boring. Not sexy at all. Felt more like a clinical exam than oral sex.

by the way. The palms has closed the link to the pic page of their girls, but the page still exists if you type it in.

www.thepalms.com.br/Volimpia/html/massagistas.html

Both girls I had were better looking in person than in these photos.

BionicMan
09-26-07, 18:07
As one can read few messages below I am not a particular fan of the Clubs, but I heard that Café Photo was closed too.
Reason for the interest is that maybe the scene is changing a bit, as I can't imagine all those girls are retiring.

So they might be split all over the city.

As a friend of mine commented yesterday, take care about girls at the shopping center, probably are hookers improving their distribution channel !!!

B.

Tommy America
09-27-07, 00:18
I just got back from spending the last 10 days in Sao Paulo. Here is the status based on personal observation:

Open: "New" Romanza (under new management and MUCH better); Solid Gold; Kilt (although without full nude dancers) and all the other clubs on the same street; Cafe Photo (at least as of last Friday, but one girl did tell me they were the next "target")

Closed: Garden Club; Bahamas

I was told Bomboa had been closed but was now open again, but I cannot attest to that personally.

In general, the clubs being targetted are the ones with "rooms" or "cabines" on site. I suppose it is much harder to "fence" something that is basically a bar for all intents and purposes (like Photo) and keep it closed.

I'll be back again in a few weeks...it will be interesting to see how many of the closures are temporary.

Orca11
09-27-07, 02:51
I am planning to go to Curitiba from Sao Paulo. Does anyone have any idea the time it will take by bus and the website of the bus schedule?

Thanks

Almotu
09-27-07, 05:56
Well, Naomi said no to BBBJ when I first asked at the beginning of the session; but she ending up kissing an licking my cock and balls for a good little while (very sexy when she was staring up at me). She wouldn't suck on it or deep throat it though. It was more than I expected form someone who said no to BBBJ, so I was pleasantly surprised.

Cindy however said yes to BBBJ and her performance was boring. Not sexy at all. Felt more like a clinical exam than oral sex.

Both girls I had were better looking in person than in these photos.Thanks for posting the link to the hidden photo page to the Palms website. The cost is still higher than I would like but thanks to you I will probably splurge on my next visit. I liked your choice of Naomi, she looked good to me too. Sandrine, Luxo, Prada & Maui also looked interesting. I had Cindy @ her place, her performance was nothing to write home about but I was just so taken with her beautiful face and great boobs plus she signed my copy of Brazilian Playboy so I gave her a passing grade.

Did you give either girl the chance to deep throat you with a condom? I have had some pretty wild CBJs from Brazilian chicks in the past. Some of them can definitely wake the dead LOL! But in general, I find myself get too sensitive for BJs after mongering on a long trip. But I do need DFK.

As for the Palms, did you choose from a photo album or did the available girls come out for a meet & greet with you? Oh one last thing, did the rooms have real beds or just a mattress (or worse, exercise mat) on the floor?

Thanks for sharing.

Sui Generis
09-27-07, 06:03
I am planning to go to Curitiba from Sao Paulo. Does anyone have any idea the time it will take by bus and the website of the bus schedule?

Thanks

It's a 6h to 6h 30 ride. It will cost you between R$52 and R$69, depending on the time of the day.

http://www.emsampa.com.br/busjan/pr_499.htm

Peter P
09-27-07, 12:40
I'm glad to report that the classic establishment, Cafe Photo, is still open for business. I was there last Thu and it was buzzing. However, noticed many asian men, and that the quality of the girls seem to have dropped since my last visit. In fact, I had a hard time locating a really satisfactory candidate to award a 'presente' for the night, i was up to my last of the 4 drinks...till I finally found lovely Miss V. Tall, blonde, slim, very much model like, and yet very friendly. She volunteered TLN, and very much everything else less anal. Her GFE really melted my heart, and it will likely remain one of those nights that would last a long time in my memory.
I have a theory, that the seeming shortfall in quality may have to do with the better economic situation in Brazil. Less unemployment, better paying jobs, and so less need to be a GDP. Good for the country, but not so good for us. Hope my theory is wrong, or that good-old Brazil continues to be a springwell of beautiful GDPs in the years ahead, regardless of its economy :)

Oralover
09-27-07, 14:10
Thanks for posting the link to the hidden photo page to the Palms website. The cost is still higher than I would like but thanks to you I will probably splurge on my next visit. I liked your choice of Naomi, she looked good to me too. Sandrine, Luxo, Prada & Maui also looked interesting. I had Cindy @ her place, her performance was nothing to write home about but I was just so taken with her beautiful face and great boobs plus she signed my copy of Brazilian Playboy so I gave her a passing grade.

Did you give either girl the chance to deep throat you with a condom? I have had some pretty wild CBJs from Brazilian chicks in the past. Some of them can definitely wake the dead LOL! But in general, I find myself get too sensitive for BJs after mongering on a long trip. But I do need DFK.

As for the Palms, did you choose from a photo album or did the available girls come out for a meet & greet with you? Oh one last thing, did the rooms have real beds or just a mattress (or worse, exercise mat) on the floor?

Thanks for sharing.Namomi was a great passionate/sensual kisser. French kissing but no tonsillectomy. When you enter, they give you a list of who is availalbe at the time. Some girls work 11:00Am till 7:00 PMand others from 5:00 till 11:00 PM. So the overlap is 5:00. 7:00 when all will be there. You can also make a reservation by phone. Once you have the list, you crossreference the names with the book of photos they give you and choose your girl.

The rooms are nice and large with showers. Both rooms I used had large raised platforms with a matress sunk into the middle, so you have soft and firm surfaces to play on. Their set up is peace and tranquility. You walk past zen sand gardens, and from my last room I could hear a fountain bubbling away.

Hmmmm wishing I could make a ptstop on my way back out of Brazil

Oralover
09-27-07, 23:29
I know this has been asked before, but most of the info was old and the links were dead.

I have a 5 hour layover at Guarulhos and I really find that airport boring.

I would love to get in one more session instead of sitting in the airport.

It will be on a Sunday in the early evening.

Anyone know of any clinics or prives near by?

If not, any hotels close by to order in?

Orca11
09-28-07, 02:07
Sui Generis,

Thanks for the bus schedule. Have you gone to Curitiba? If so, would you recommend going there for the P4P or would you recommend another city like Belo Horizonte?

Robertlopes6071
09-30-07, 14:51
Hey Robert, I had stumbled across Julia's ad on various GDP sites and found her photos alluring. Did you take any photos of her that you don't mind sharing? I also visited the links that you posted. So, she sticks to the pricing on her website - $R200 + $R80 for the extra hour? Was she a clockwatcher? Was the BBBJCIM, her idea or did you negotiate for it? She seems to still be relatively new to the 'game' because she had not too many reviews on GPguia. I am looking forward to trying her out in late October. Thanks in advance for any additional thoughts about her that you can post.No, I didn't take photos of Julia (next time I will!), but she looks more or less the same as in her pictures. In some of them she looks more "like herself", though, if you know what I mean. For example, she looks more like this:

http://www.juliagualter.com/paginas/espanol/g13e.html

Than like this:

http://www.juliagualter.com/paginas/espanol/g7e.html

She is very pretty, anyway. In fact, I am going to see her again in early November, and I cannot wait. She charged me 280 plus taxi (around 20-30 extra reais, but remember that this extra depends on how far your hotel is) for three hours, yes, and she is NOT a clockwatcher. She is extremely professional, but in the sense that she makes you feel great, and if she has to stay a bit longer for that, she will. The BBBJCIM was my idea, but I didn't have to negotiate at all. Same can be said about anal. You just ask for it.

I took a look at the reports at GPguia and I can see that many friends agree with me :-) She doesn't have a single negative review :-)

Sui Generis
10-02-07, 21:48
It seems that bad uncle Oscar is out of jail...

http://noticias.bol.uol.com.br/brasil/2007/10/02/ult4469u12030.jhtm

What can we expect from the «former king» of the night in São Paulo?

Is it possible that Bahamas will reborn from its ashes?

I'll report live from Sampa because I'll be there in November....

Seqoya
10-03-07, 15:15
Check out www.mclass.com.br

Nice ladies. Don't know if you guys know this site. But a friiend from sao paulo giive me this site. And it looks good I say