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Admin
01-01-07, 02:00
Thread Starter.

Sui Generis
01-01-07, 02:01
Happy New Year 2007 to all the posters on the São Paulo's thread.

My wishlist for 2007?

To see more posts describing new garotas, new places. I'm kind of tired to see the same clinics and the same boates. I've tried in 2006 to contribute with something new: Akaza, Privê do jaceru, Privê do hector, Gabriella Alves.

I'll do the same thing in 2007. Try new places, staying away from tourist traps.

My wishlist for 2007:

Livia Assunção, Paloma, Brenda (Privê do Jaceru),

Tommy America
01-01-07, 02:02
I will be back in Sao Paulo the week of January 15 after a 6 month absence. I have heard about a few new clubs (new to me at least) that I have not heard much discussion about. I would appreciate any feedback anyone has on any of these clubs as they appear to be quite promising:

150 Club: Rua Correia Dias, 150 - Paraíso - São Paulo, http://www.150club.com.br

Diva Club: R. José Getúlio, 419, http://www.odiva.com.br

Beach Club: Av. Prof. Vicente Rao, 2.310, http://www.beachclub.com.br/

Thanks to all!

Genghis Khan
01-01-07, 12:33
NEW WEBSITE www.abusa.com.br

www.abusamodels.net

There is a girl on this site called Gisely Gucci. She also works at W.E. but she calls herself Gaby Gomes there. She has done a couple of porn movies. She has a body builder type boyfriend who she does porn shows with too. Anyway I would advice everyone to stay away from her. After I refused to pay her when she didn't want to have sex with me, her boyfriend threatened to kill me.

GK

Sui Generis
01-02-07, 15:38
I did not want to be the first one to bring that up on this board. Thanks GK, you broke the ice for me.

Abusamodel.
The first day I saw their add on this forum, my reaction was to inspect some Brazilian forums in order to know what they have to say on this agency. I found nothing. So, I phoned somebody in SP and that person (which is very reliable) said to me that this agency was under investigation. He mentioned that some of the girls weren't reliable. I was a little bit surprised because Bella is on this site. I don't want to cause any trouble to this agency, but I think it's mandatory to inform the members of this forum that this agency seems to be suspect.

To put it in a nutshell: Wait to read report on this agency before booking a girl. GK gave us an invaluable information here.

George90
01-02-07, 17:47
Thanks for the heads up, SG.

Fats
01-02-07, 18:11
I was a little bit surprised because Bella is on this site.

I'd be a lot suprised if Bella wasn't on this site, she's on every other SP site I've ever seen!

Sui Generis
01-02-07, 20:13
I'd be a lot suprised if Bella wasn't on this site, she's on every other SP site I've ever seen!

LOL!
I didn't mean the frequency. I thought she was a garota of integrity. Is this an oxymoron? A garota de programa with integrity??????

Toshw2
01-02-07, 21:59
There is a girl on this site called Gisely Gucci. She also works at W.E. but she calls herself Gaby Gomes there. She has done a couple of porn movies. She has a body builder type boyfriend who she does porn shows with too. Anyway I would advice everyone to stay away from her. After I refused to pay her when she didn't want to have sex with me, her boyfriend threatened to kill me.

GKWhats the full name \ address of W.E. as I'll be in sampa in a few weeks and she's on my hit list! Maybe I'll have better luck! By the way I've read some other reviews of this girl in gpguia and from what I've made out the reviews on her seem to be pretty positive seems like a bit of bad luck on you part.

Full Throttle
01-03-07, 03:48
Do anyone know any massage clinica close to Paulista? Should have same quality as Clinica Kin.

Thanks.

All I can say is that I stay on Paulista but make the 20+ minute ride to Clinica Kin every time. Antares is only a few subway exits down and they have beautiful girls, but the service isn't the same. I've searched and searched without any luck, but I encourage you to keep looking AND report back!

Everybody should remember that Kin has devoloped a cult following on this board due to strong recommendations by a few of us. On the local boards, there are a handful that are reviewed regularly and positively. I'm SURE there are other opportunities just as good, we just need to find out where. I'll try a new place next week.

FT

Genghis Khan
01-03-07, 08:40
Whats the full name \ address of W.E. as I'll be in sampa in a few weeks and she's on my hit list! Maybe I'll have better luck! By the way I've read some other reviews of this girl in gpguia and from what I've made out the reviews on her seem to be pretty positive seems like a bit of bad luck on you part.

I can agree to the fact that not everybody will have a good time with all girls, but to call a threat on my life as a bit of bad luck and then disregard it and then fully intending on seeing her seems a bit naive on your part.

BTW, The incident I described happened on the second date with her. I was with her the day before too and she did have sex with me then. Nothing to write home about though. The full name of W.E. is W.E. and the address is Rua Peixoto Gomide 263, Consolacao. I bet she doesn't work there anymore as this incident happened in April last year.

GK

Sui Generis
01-03-07, 10:13
Since yesterday, the 150 CLUB is a clinic and not a boîte (nightclub) anymore.

The managers are Andreia and Shindão, formerly from Clinica Cherry.

150, Rua Correia Dias, - Paraiso
Phone: 5549-2288/5083-9553
From 11:00 hs to 22:00 hs

1 hr for R$ 150,00

Mastercard, Rede Shop, Amex, Visa, Visa Electron and cash money.

www.150club.com.br

Joe Boy
01-08-07, 04:50
Hi,

I'll be in Sao Paulo soon and was curious if anyone had used this site:

http://www.contatos.com.br/acompanhantes.php

Are these agencies or private people? How reliable are they?

Have never been in Brazil before. Is there such a thing as a women working out of her own home?

Thanks.

Joe Boy

Sui Generis
01-08-07, 22:38
As far as I know, contatos seems to be a reliable site. A thing is obvious: they don't use Photoshop.

Before calling a girl always check her phone number with the «busca telefones» function. If the names of severals girls come up as a result of your search, don't even waste your time: it's a bait and switch agency.

Tommy America
01-13-07, 01:07
I am going to be back in Sao Paulo next week for the first time since June. I was thinking of stopping by Bomboa while there. Has anyone been there recently that might be able to give a current update --- entrance fee, sample pricing, quality, etc.?

Thanks

Spazzio
01-16-07, 14:29
Can anybodu give me update for swing clubs in SAO PAULO.

The best clubs some are open for singel men.

Thanks friends.

Thelastmoppet
01-17-07, 08:18
I would like to thank everyone on this board for the insightful posts. Will be travelling to Sampa soon and want to try out some of the sites like Club Model and Eros. Am I dealing with the girl directly or a madam? Will it be a problem if I speak no Portuguese? Promise to write a full report of my experience, Moppet's honor.

Moppet

Sui Generis
01-18-07, 09:47
...want to try out some of the sites like Club Model and Eros. Am I dealing with the girl directly or a madam? Will it be a problem if I speak no Portuguese?

Moppet


In most cases, you deal directly with the girl. It can be a problem if you don't speak Portuguese because you will have to ask for the price, the options she offers, her adress (if you visit) or you will have to tell her where you want her to meet you (in your hotel, in a motel?). If she is visiting you, she will probably ask you to pay her taxi, and many more details like these one. To avoid this kind of trouble, just ask somebody working in your hotel to make the appointment for you. (I never did this but I'm sure that it can be done)

Big Bug
01-18-07, 17:46
Well after so many recomendations and favorable comments I called her in.

Lets go for personal impression on body
-Yes she is pretty, no she is not stunning. There are a lot of girls with better body. Gabriela is wide in the hips and heavy in the arms/sholders. OK after the "social workers" we have in USA she is great. But compared to the girls in Bahamas o Photo.... she is not tops by far (my personal taste)


in bed:
- She must have been busy today. We had 2 pops. The first very mecanical, though the BJ was fantastic at the begining it bacame routine. for the second I took my time to get her going, she loves doggy style!!! Insatiable. She was very distant and the damm phone rings every 5 min qih each one of you quoting prices... give me a break, pls dont call my girl when she is in bed with me!!!!!!!! 8D

GFE:
- today was not her day, she did not even take the condoms of me or clean the mess...... Well you guys calling every 5 min, didnt really improve the situation

Bug

Thelastmoppet
01-19-07, 03:23
Thanks Sui. Your posts on Sampa have been very useful.

I guess I'll just keep calling until I talk to someone who speaks some English. Will of course post here the results of my "survey" to help my fellow portuguese-challenged mongers.

BTW, from reading the posts here I don't think I should have a problem with clinicas or am I wrong? Anyone have suggestions on english-friendly boites?

Member #4170
01-24-07, 18:46
Irishpussyman had a bad night in Sao Paulo, it started of with a visit to Bahamas which is well out of my price range, they charge entry of R123 which includes 0 drinks, yes that is not a typo error that is zero drinks for a fee of R123, R10 for a coke R18 for a beer and they charge R101 for a room for one hour, now to be fare the line up was pretty impressive with a lot of 8s 9s and even a few 10s but with an average asking price of between R400 to R800 that was to much for my bank account.

Now comes the big warning

WARNING AVOID WARNING AVOID

ROMANZA
AV. Nove De Julho 5836

This place is the biggest rip off anywhere in the world, the entry is R150 but if you complain about the price they will lower it to R120 with 3 drinks, the line up is so so with mostly 6s 7s and a few 8s, but now for the big rip off some of the better looking girls will only drink champagne, OK far enough you might think until you witness the waiters removing full glasses of the stuff from the girls hands and emptying them in to a bucket only to go back to the table and refill the glasses again making it look like that the bottle is been drank so quick that the guy has to buy another one, I saw a waiter empty a glass twice from the same girl within five minutes, he know that I had seen what he did and did his best not to smile to much. they also pour your beer in to a glass and will throw away half a can each time. I had two of my drink used one for a girl and then left, was wondering what tricks the girls would get up to if this is what the waiters are doing.

The night finally ended with more problems, when to cafe Guigan, they charged me R80 entry including 2 drinks but not for girls, you have to pay R35 for there drinks, anyway after a short while a spotted a very nice looking girl with everything in the right place, we started to smile at each other and with in five minutes we had agreed a price of R250 for 3 hours and were leaving to go the the hotel, not before a barman did his best to open a half bottle of Champagne which I told him where to shove and then when I am paying the bill which is the R80 entry and a two drink fee to release the girl 2 X R35 bring total to R150 the same barman with the half bottle has gone a put on a service charge of R15 for himself, after telling him I do not believe this bull shit and if I am going to give ant tip it would be for the girl and not to him, anyway when we get back to the hotel things go from bad to worse for me when the girl starts insisting on money upfront, I tell her no way I will pay her after, she says lets out the money on the shelf where she can see it, which I agree to, when I get the money she counts it and asks where is the rest telling me that she now wants R400 I tell her no way and ask her to leave now she says OK OK R250 will do, I am having none of it because I know the session will last 30 minutes and she will be off, anyway after the help of the hotel staff she was on her way, not before threatening me with the police for what I am not sure.

I think it will be back to Millennium for me today, had a good time there on Monday night, entry R100 which can be used for food and drink for you or the girls, rooms R70 for the hour and you can get the girls for between R200 and R300.

Don't forget watch for the champagne ripoffs and barmen service charges and stay away from Romanza.

Happy mongering

Irishpussyman

Sui Generis
01-24-07, 22:45
Great report IrishPussyman!

Bahamas should be renamed Bermuda Triangle....a strange place where your money quickly dispears. Yeaks!!!!!!

When I read reports like this one, it confirms my intention to stay away from these kinds of places.

Jajalamb
01-25-07, 15:32
Hey everyone lets face it! Sao Paulo is expensive place to monger.

Numpty
01-26-07, 02:43
Hi guys,

First of all I have been reading this board for only 2 days but the breadth of advice and dare I say it comradery is amazing. So I had to join. And would appreciate any advice for a newbie. Here's the deal. I am off to Sao Paulo next weekend arriving on Sunday leaving on Wed. I don't speak a word of Portuguese (tho am working on a few key phrases. 'a beer please' being the first:). I am Irish with accent don't know if thats good or bad and appreciate advice pointing me in any direction that may allow me to 'Iorish' it up:). Staying at a Transamerica flat at Jardim area. Good or bad for bringing the ladies back? . I was thinking I shud grab a 'guide' for a few days. Any reccomendations. Maybe it sounds mad. But a female guide wud be fun. If she were cool about helping with hook up advice etc. So the plan is to arrive on Sunday morning. Grab a few hrs of sleepo and then put the mongering pants on and explore. Appreciate any advice on a Sunday afternoon bar like place (in / near Jardim) where pretty easy to strike up a conversation and hopefully take a rather tasty local femme back to my hotel for an afternoon session. Or longer. Also appreciate up to date advice on nearby club. Love story. Kilt etc seem to be well reviewed. Looking for a laid back pick up bar scene. And of course if I'm not asking too much a good spot to pick up a 'new' girl to the scene. Not asking too much am I:)). Plan to give a decent report and pics when I get back. Thanks in advance guys

Off Road
01-26-07, 04:55
Hi guys,

First of all I have been reading this board for only 2 days but the breadth of advice and dare I say it comradery is amazing. So I had to join. And would appreciate any advice for a newbie. Here's the deal. I am off to Sao Paulo next weekend arriving on Sunday leaving on Wed. I don't speak a word of Portuguese (tho am working on a few key phrases. 'a beer please' being the first:). I am Irish with accent don't know if thats good or bad and appreciate advice pointing me in any direction that may allow me to 'Iorish' it up:). Staying at a Transamerica flat at Jardim area. Good or bad for bringing the ladies back? . I was thinking I shud grab a 'guide' for a few days. Any reccomendations. Maybe it sounds mad. But a female guide wud be fun. If she were cool about helping with hook up advice etc. So the plan is to arrive on Sunday morning. Grab a few hrs of sleepo and then put the mongering pants on and explore. Appreciate any advice on a Sunday afternoon bar like place (in / near Jardim) where pretty easy to strike up a conversation and hopefully take a rather tasty local femme back to my hotel for an afternoon session. Or longer. Also appreciate up to date advice on nearby club. Love story. Kilt etc seem to be well reviewed. Looking for a laid back pick up bar scene. And of course if I'm not asking too much a good spot to pick up a 'new' girl to the scene. Not asking too much am I:)). Plan to give a decent report and pics when I get back. Thanks in advance guys
I am not sure when it opens but O'Malleys bar is close and they speak english. You will find some GDPs there later in the day for sure. This is a bar for english speakning guys. You can always go in, check it out, then go somewhere else. Kilt and such will not open until like 10, Love Story like 3am..
Escort might be your best bet to get a taste..

Surferr3
01-26-07, 06:47
Irishpussyman.....

Thanks!! Awesome report.

Ironically, I will always keep Bahamas as my MUST see place in Sampa. YES, it's spendy. I know when I go there I will shell out cash. In addition, I KNOW I will pull a model out of there. Again, thanks for the report.

Numpty:

I echo what Off Road said. O'Malleys is a great time. Talk to the conceirge at your hotel. You will find a few Irish pubs in Jardins. I've been to two (O'Malley's and another...forgot the name)/ You'll have fun.

Have a good trip!

Almotu
01-26-07, 07:05
Sundays are dead. Since you are in Jardins you should definitely check out Rua Augusta. Pretty dive-y places but I think they are at least open. Some diamonds in the rough to be found.

Your Irish accent! I speak American English and sometimes I can't understand you guys LOL. Hand gestures and pointing are OK! Hee Hee.

I know KILT is open for sure and maybe a few of the other club on that Nestor Pestana street (like Ocean Club, My Love, etc) The girls may hold out for inflated rates because there are less options on a Sunday.

Did not know GDPs worked the pubs too, must check it out on my next visit.

Good Luck.

Sui Generis
01-26-07, 16:22
Sunday is the worst day because the garotas spend it with their family, their friends or they simply take a rest. Most boates are closed and all prives are closed.

Speaking of O'Malley's, the tall Fabiana Mulata (Mariana) was spotted there (with another girl) earlier this week.

http://www.malicia.com.br/5215

http://www.sexdreams.com.br/acompanhantes/ac002720/index.php

Numpty
01-27-07, 00:52
Hey guys thanks for the advice. I'll take my chances on Sunday and let you know how its goes. Def stop for a quick 'settler' at O'Malleys. Then will check out the talent along Rua Augusta. Any suggestions for a guide?

Infamous1
01-27-07, 03:34
Hi,

I'm going to be spending only 1 night in Sao Paolo, my layover from Rio back to NY. Any recommendations on an inexpensive hotel with 2 double beds (around $50US). Something thats close to action and airport.

Sui Generis
01-27-07, 16:11
Hi,

I'm going to be spending only 1 night in Sao Paolo, my layover from Rio back to NY. Any recommendations on an inexpensive hotel with 2 double beds (around $50US). Something thats close to action and airport.

This hotel is very affordable and close to the airport. I'm not quite sure however that it is close to action.

http://www.accorhotels.com.br/guiahoteis/IBIS/hotel_main.asp?cd_hotel=150

Tommy America
01-27-07, 19:31
Agree on Romanza. Next door to Romanza though is Aenchanter run by the former owner of Romanza. Much nicer (place and girls) and not a blatant rip-off. No cover (that saw at least), great music, and many very friendly girls. I was in there Tuesday January 16 and had one of the best times ever in SP.

Sui Generis
01-27-07, 21:46
AEnchanter – Jardins

5732, Avenida 9 de Julho(former Romanza). There's another entrance on Rua Baviera.

Phone: (11) 3062-4115

Jose Lima
02-01-07, 13:31
One of my fav spots in Sampa is a place called Cafe Moulin Rouge in moema. Its nice and always has very pretty girls. Also the Conniff is my all time fav spot. The best girls are there. The great thing about these places is that they are both Fixed rate. So there is no hagling involved.

Sui Generis
02-01-07, 16:28
Moulin Rouge Night Club

Adress: 2,217 Av. dos Bandeirantes - Moema
(Av. dos Bandeirantes on the corner of Av. Santo Amaro)

Phone: (11) 5535-7620

Web site: none

Schedule;
From Monday to Saturday.
Sunday: closed

Entrance Fee: R$ 45,00 (with no drinks)

Car valet service R$ 8,00


Prices:
R$ 100,00 for 1/2h + R$ 45,00 for the room
R$ 150,00 for 1 h + R$ 65,00 for the room

BionicMan
02-05-07, 19:55
For the guy having an overnight at GRU:

There is no much action around the airport.

You might want to go through some escort service.

There are some reliable ones in SP and with GFE as well!

It Travel
02-06-07, 10:51
if it has to be of help for somebody…

in sa paulo i usually go to estanplaza paulista… depending on dates you can buy an executive room (with everything you need even free high speed internet) from 65 to 95 usd.

it’s very central located behind avenida paulista, and have always taxi in front. they are all very kind and the hotel up to when you are discreet will allow anybody in your room with no hassle :) . even big safe for lap top or cameras…

and the general standard is that of a real four star. but for getting those prices you have to buy it on expedia.


it

Thelastmoppet
02-08-07, 03:21
This is moppet’s first report on ISG.

Went to Clinica Kin last night after reading all the reviews on this board. Like someone said earlier, they don’t speak English but will try their best to help you. The hostess, a cute slim blonde named Valeria, and her assistants are all very friendly and will make you feel at ease. After offering me a beer, I was given the book.

After thumbing through pictures of the 10-12 girls in the book, Valeria made a phone call and the girls came out to greet me with a kiss on the cheek two or three at a time. I need to mention that the book is misleading and some of the girls on the book do not show up and some girls who show up are not in the book. You should also expect a 2 point drop from the pictures in the book to the actual girl who greets you.

My first choice for that night was Dani, a petite morena who had greeted me enthusiastically. Unfortunately, a regular of Dani’s came in at that exact moment (can you believe that!!) and I was bumped. Rather than wait, Valeria suggested Cleo after she learned it was my primeira vez. I need to make a disclaimer here that I had never seen the famous Cleo before tonight so I couldn’t put a face to the girl mentioned on the boards.

I had a quick shower after getting into the room and Cleo showered quickly after. When she got out, she asked me what I wanted. Unfortunately, I didn’t speak any Portuguese and she didn’t speak any English. After some funny hand gestures, she got down to business with her mouth. Let me tell you, this girl can really suck. She went on for a full 6-7 minutes while I fingered her in all openings before I told her to stop and put on the party hat. We tried several positions and her moans sounded genuine, if a bit loud at times. Did I mention that she likes her job :)

I then asked for culo and was warmly received. I fingered her the same time I went in her and the look of ecstasy on her face was priceless. Taking it like a trooper, she endured 7-8 minutes of pounding in several positions before I asked for bbbjtc which she willingly obliged. To be honest, I think she thought I would cum the moment she went to work but I held out for a good 4-5 minutes and made her work her fingers and mouth hard. Needless to say, the ending was spectacular.

After cleaning me up, she tried to make some small talk. I could tell she was amazed I lasted that long and didn’t cum when we did anal. I had a portuguese-english phrasebook with me which made her very curious. We spent the rest of the time talking and joking with each other. To be fair, she felt a little guilty and asked me if I wanted a second shot on goal or a bj but after the fantastic experience, I declined. I like to take my time and don’t like 5-minute rushjobs.

Shortly after, the phone rang and Cleo told them something in Portuguese which I think meant I wanted to have a shower before I left. The phone rang again a few minutes later and Cleo took that opportunity to use some of the new English words she just learned. She picked up the phone and shouted “F*** YOU” into the receiver and started giggling like a little girl. That totally cracked me up and I gave her a 30 reals tip before heading out.

In the waiting room, Valeria greeted me and asked me what I thought. I gave her the thumbs up. Total damage was 120 reals. There was a Brazilian guy who spoke English in the waiting room so I struck up a conversation with him. After a while, Valeria joined us. I told her she was famosa (famous) since I had heard about her from some other forums. She was extremely delighted to hear this and give me a huge kiss and hug. Afterwards, she called a taxi for me and even walked me to the taxi in the pouring rain. All in all a beautiful way to spend a day in Sao Paolo.

If any of my fellow mongers should visit Clinica Kin, say Hi to Valeria and tell her the gringo who said she was “famosa” sent you :)

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Joe Boy
02-09-07, 22:55
Hi,

Am in Sao Paulo. Saw a Garota Da Programma. Things were very passionate. Too passionate. Had three BBFS sessions with her stating that she had a clean checkup, though I suspect it was months back. I did see the paper, but I truly suspect it was mid 2006.

Freaking out a little thinking about going home and possibly passing something on to my wife. Know I wasn't too bright. Lost in the moment. Still debating if I come clean with the wife since it will look weird if I suddenly want to use a condom with her until I am tested.

Is BBFS with a Garota Da Programma common in Sao Paulo or Brazil? How much should I be freaking out?

This can e moved to the Safe Sex section too, but I have never had this happen in the US or Israel which is why I am putting it in the Brazil section.

Bubba Boy
02-12-07, 07:27
Can someone please give me an update on the entrance price for Café Photo.?

Genghis Khan
02-12-07, 08:36
Can someone please give me an update on the entrance price for Café Photo.?

Bubba,

The entrance is R$190. This awards you four drink tickets. Beware however if you order a drink with several ingredients - they will take one ticket for each ingredient. For instance whisky and Red Bull (which many girls prefer) will cost you two drink tickets.

GK

Almotu
02-13-07, 04:10
Don't know which city you are from but you should be able to get a rapid HIV/Aids test from your local dept of health. They will tell you if you have the HIV antibodies in a hour or two.

But other STDs will be trickier and test results take a week or so. You should delay having BB sexual contact with your wife until you know what you are up against. Tell her you are tired, etc. Otherwise come clean. It's your funeral.

Yes, BBFS is dangerous for sure especially with a sex worker. I am praying for you.

Bubba Boy
02-13-07, 04:59
Can some body tell me the address for the 8 floors of *****s in Sampa?

Thanks GK

Sui Generis
02-13-07, 16:39
Dear BubbaBoy,

You must be probably speaking of the prédio Itatiaia:

Prédio Av. Conselheiro Furtado, 151 - Liberdade

Voyajer1
02-13-07, 17:10
Can some body tell me the address for the 8 floors of *****s in Sampa?

Thanks GKBubba: There are two separate 8 story buildings within walking distace of one another:

Barao de Limeira 134 (Building has an Italian name if memory serves me correctly)
Rua dos Andradas 69 (It actually has 8 floors and a mezzanine)

Sui Generis
02-14-07, 15:44
I made a mistake,

Prédio Itatiaia is the one located in Santa Cecilia

134 Barão de Limeira.

Hey guys, don't expect to find good looking girls down there.

Jose Lima
02-15-07, 15:48
I made a mistake,

Prédio Itatiaia is the one located in Santa Cecilia

134 Barão de Limeira.

Hey guys, don't expect to find good looking girls down there.


You seem to know a lot about the Sampa P4P scene. Everytime someone needs info you seem ot have the address and phone number withen 5 minutes. I am curious to know what your top 5 spots in Sampa are. Taking into consdieration: Price, Beuety, location, and casa apeal.

Sui Generis
02-15-07, 21:12
You seem to know a lot about the Sampa P4P scene. Everytime someone needs info you seem ot have the address and phone number withen 5 minutes. I am curious to know what your top 5 spots in Sampa are. Taking into consdieration: Price, Beuety, location, and casa apeal.

Thanks bro! I don't know that much...I just do my homeworks....or fieldworks...or bedworks! (if I could say so) Lol.
It means that I read local forums and stay in contact with my paulista friends (hobbyists and some gals that are dear to me). I'm maybe the only gringo (I mean living outside Brazil) who is contributing to a brazilian forum on a regular basis (with more than 250 posts). I am also a «close» friend of one of the most colourful (and experimented) hobbyist (who happens also to be a moderator) on that same local forum. Finally, as I do speak fluently Portuguese (with an accent of course) I can go everywhere I want and experiment things that are different.

When I travel to Sampa, as far as possible, I try to experiment new places. For example, I went to privês (like PHQ1 and Jaceru on my last trip) and I even did some «anthropological» (or anthroputological!) fieldwork on the trash area of Sampa (Boca da Luz district, near the Estação da Luz and in the Santa-Ifigênia/Santa Cecilia district).

What are my my top five? As I didn't experiment personally everything, my answer will be partial and it's based on a particular geographical location when I reside in São Paulo (I like Moema, period!).

1- Freelance escorts. I'm fortunate enough to received direct help from my friend in São Paulo. Before leaving my country I usually have a wishlist. On my arrival I meet my friend and, while drinking cafezinhos, he gives update on garotas, supplying me with an array of private information, phone numbers and he can even make a preliminary contact for me (calling the garotas on his cell phone). I like to go out with freelance escorts because there is no hassle. If there's good chemistry between you and a garota «petit train va loin!» (your mileage may vary).

2- Privê do Hector (PHQ1). This place is insane! Beautiful garotas and it's inexpensive. Hector himself is a colourful and very friendly manager and the receptionist, Camilla...mama mia! gee! I would like to bang her. It's located in a quiet district (Brooklin) on a small and discrete street. My first pick for a scheduled escapade.

3- Massage parlor: Clinica Cherry.

4- Pick up a Non-GP on a bar (I always to this, at least once): Bourbon Street (live music, jazz club) in Moema.

5- My last choice are boates, As I don't know all of them I cannot give you an enlightened answer here. On my last trip I liked Akaza (Moema) but I was there for a private party organized by some members of the GP Guia.

Golden Rule: I always consult local forums before hunting a garota de programa.

I hope it will help ya!

Surferr3
02-16-07, 07:46
I have posted and shared info occasionally.......

I have reaped a TON of info from Sui's posts. He is definately "in the trenches" and better yet..... he shares the info on this board.

Obrigado!

Orang05
02-17-07, 01:07
Anyone know the address/phone of this S.P. prive? Sui Generis mentions it in his recent post, and I cannot get a bead on it. Might it be open on Saturdays?

Thanks gents!

Voyajer1
02-17-07, 03:47
Anyone know the address/phone of this S.P. prive? Sui Generis mentions it in his recent post, and I cannot get a bead on it. Might it be open on Saturdays?

Thanks gents!There are two units. The address, phone number and schedule are posted on their link: http://www.phq.com.br/ . Enjoy!

Todo Poderoso
02-17-07, 06:35
I agree with Sui Generis, do not expect to find dimes in this place. However, I am a sucker for a good deal. Also, there are diamonds in the rough. on Tuesday I went to the 8th story(is actually 7 but who's counting?) buldilng located on Conselheiro Furtado, 151. This place is only a couple of blocks south of the Liberdade train station. I visited almost every apartment in the building(I worked my self up from the 2nd floor up) and most of the girls there I woundnt not even fuck if they paid me but i digress. I ended up hooking up with two providers. The first one was from apartment 41. She looked like she was at least 35+ years old. However, she had a firm bouble butt that I love so much so I just couldn't let it pass. She was very friendly and liked to talk, too bad i couldnt understand a word she was saying. She proceeded to give a very slow and sensual BBBJ then she put on the condom and I ended up finishing with doggy style.
I felt good about the session especially since it was only $20 Reals. After finishing with the Garota I went up to check the last three floors. On the last one apartment 73, a light skinned black cutie opened the door. I went inside and sat on the bed while the rest of the girls came into the room and introduced themselves.I already knew who I wanted but I went with the drill . I chose the gril who opened the door. I asked her cuanto and she said $20 Reals. I definetly belive she was selling herself short. We went on with the session and it was boring and almost like fucking a corpe. Nevertheless, for 10 bucks it was quite a steal.

Later that night, I went on to Rua Agusta to check out the clubs. Yhe first spot I visited was Nova Maison. The guy at the door spoke perfect english and told me to walk in and if i see something I like to let him know. I like the way that he wasnt pushy and was confident about the spot he was working for. I went in around 11:30pm and there was like 10 very fat to plain ugly looking girls in there. I went back outside and asked the bouncer if that's all he had. he told me that the quality is going to get better later on at night. I left then I went to check the rest of the clubs. However, the quality of girls was not much better and some of the girls at the 7th story buldling actually looked better than some of the chicks at those clubs. Also, to my fellow mongers some of those clubs want you to pay 5-10 Reals just to get into the club with out even leting you see what type of girls they have inside. do not agree with to this bullshit, if the dude at the door doesnt know let you see the goods with out you paying him first, just walk away and charge that club to the game. I went back to Nova Maison and just like the bouncer promised the place was jumping. However, that night they seemed to have mostly blondes with small asses something that i am not terribly atracked too. then i saw exactly what i was looking for. she told me her name was naomi and that she doesnt do this often and just wants to pay for school. ´she wanted 150 Reals plus the room. after i told her that i'll see her later she droped her price to 100 Reals with room included, i guess it must have been a slow night. we went upstairs where they had a pretty decent looking room with a shower that actually has hot water that works. we quickly went down to business she gave me a kinda of rushed CBJ. she was a season pro and everything was very robetic. it made me glad that i wasnt dumb enough to pay her the 150 reals.

Sui Generis
02-17-07, 07:00
Anyone know the address/phone of this S.P. prive? Sui Generis mentions it in his recent post, and I cannot get a bead on it. Might it be open on Saturdays?

Thanks gents!


PHQ I

Adress: 88A Rua Novo Cancioneiro, 88 - Brooklin

Phone: (11) 5041-3700 / 5536-4042

Site: http://www.phq.com.br/

Schedule:
From Monday to Saturday: 10:00h to 22:00h

R$ 60,00 for 1/2 h
R$ 80,00 for 1 h

Credit Cards are accepted

It's easy to go there.

From Moema, just take Santo Amaro in a south direction up till Avenida Roque Petroni Junior, then your turn right (on Avenida Roque Petroni). Drive a quarter of a mile and you turn right on Santa Arcádio. Drive 300 feet and then turn right on Novo Cancioneiro. Drive 150 feet and on your left you will find PHQ1. The adress is 88A. This is a residential area with beautiful houses. There's always somebody in front of PHQ1 welcoming the customers. He will buzz the door for you.

The premises are clean and, if you're lucky enough, Camila will be at the reception desk. She's a former garota and she will make feel you at ease. A beautiful smile and a nice pair of racks too! The selection of girls is habitually good.

There are several rooms (on 2 storeys). Camila will give you a clean (and wrapped) towel. The rooms are okay and clean. Some rooms are equiped with a jacuzzi.

You have two options: 1/2 h for R$60 or R$80 for a complete hour. At the end of the session the phone will ring to tell you that the time is over. If you want to keep the girl longer she will tell the reception on the phone.

Sui Generis
02-17-07, 08:27
Awsome reports. I always wanted to atend a GPGUIA party. I am a member there but only have a couple of post. I want to try to plan my next trip around one of there parties.

Sui generis- Are the GPGUIA parties fixed price for the girls? Is it a intrance fee then you take care of the negociations? Whats the guy/girl ratio?? I am sure the women are of good quility.


I'll try to be informative as possible.

There are several GPGUIA parties.

First, I will report from my own experience. Up to now, I went to two of these parties.

The first one was a private party; it was not advertised on the Web. I was invited there by a GPGuia moderator. It was held on a bar in Vila Olimpia: Bar Moça Bonita.

http://www.baressp.com.br/detalhe.asp?n=468&canal=1

There were no entrance fee because it was more a relaxed social diner with friends than a sex party. There were several hobbyists and a couple of garotas. I remember that Meyre Gueixa, Bellaxxx, Elektra, Gabrielle ruiva (with a non-GP girlfriend of her) were there.

We were sitting on the same table, on the terrace. I spoke with the wife of my friend (she's Brazilian but she speaks a very cute French) and I had a good conversation with Gabrielle ruiva and Meyre Gueixa. Gabrielle is a very nice person with a good personality, but she is not my type. At the end of the evening, slightly inebriated, I was a little bit sexually attracted to Meyre Gueixa

http://www.sexdreams.com.br/acompanhantes/ac001247/

But I changed my mind because she is not really my type after all. She is a Japanese garota with blonde hair. Her face is so-so. Small breasts, but a very nice ass. I could have her for R$150. I was more interested in Elektra, but I banged her the day before and when I left she was engaged in a deep conversation with a fellow hobbyist, so I left alone.

My second party was held last November at Akaza, in Moema (not far from the Ibirapuera Shopping Center).

http://www.akaza.com.br

There was an entrance fee, but it was the half of the habitual price. I paid R$50 instead of R$100. Inside I negociated with the garota. I was told that the girls charge between R$200 and R$400. The first girl I met, Renata, was my type. A beautiful morena from Rio de Janeiro. Very good manners, sophisticated, good conversation. I didn't have to negociate because her price was R$200. For the party, there was a promotion. The suite was free for the two or three (I don't remember exactly) first customers. As I was the first one to go into a suite with a garota, I didn't have to pay.

What was the ratio? To be honest, it was a small party: Manuela Lima was launching her Web site. I was a little bit dissapointed because there were not too many fellow members, maybe just 10 of them (it was a Wednesday night). How many girls? Hugh! Not sure about that, maybe eight or ten. The quality was not exceptional, but it was good.

Other types of party.

The big ones, like the GPGUIA anniversary party in September. You have to register in advance. Entrance fee and you negociate with the girls. Habitually there's more hobbyists than garotas. I've heard that it can be fun.

Swinger parties. You must go there with a garota. Entrance fee. As you must be accompanied the ratio is perfect. I almost attended Sheyla Dantas swinger party, but I changed my mind.

http://sheyladantas.fotoblog.uol.com.br/

Private parties. They are not advertised. You must be invited by somebody. I was invited to such a party at PHQ1. They did a churasco and for desert you eat a girl. I dind't go. Next time I will. I've heard the the ratio is good.

Boratsexytime
02-17-07, 12:56
Does anybody know of any English speakin escort agencies in Sao Paulo or Rio that are worth recomending, will be there in March, would be interested on any advice any one has out there.

BionicMan
02-23-07, 00:51
Does anybody know of any English speakin escort agencies in Sao Paulo or Rio that are worth recomending, will be there in March, would be interested on any advice any one has out there.Try www.mclass.com.br

Sometime you get some expensive but valuable girl , sometime you get a very nice student for a great GFE.

Girls are indipendent from the site as it acts mainly as an attracting webpoint.

You browse, select, and contact the girl.

Then do the deal with her.

Pictures are quite accurate but expect some minor photoshop, often to disguise the girl from friends or relatives in case they bump into the site.

RexG
02-23-07, 03:02
Does anybody know of any English speakin escort agencies in Sao Paulo or Rio that are worth recomending, will be there in March, would be interested on any advice any one has out there.

I'm not certain about agencies, but I have started to compile a new list of English-speaking escorts in preparation for my next trip. I intend to look these gals up on www.gpguia.net but I haven't gotten that far yet. So I have no idea what these ladies are like. Also, there have been several prior posts about English speaking escorts (like Patricia and Bella in SP).

In Sao Paulo:

At http://sexdreams.com.br
Alê :: (11) 8632-1030
Nina Sanches :: (11) 7315-5155
Andrea Lins :: (11) 8520-0914
Karla Lopez :: (11) 7664-9270
Renata Didóne :: (11) 8398-0612
Aiumy :: (11) 9252-1742
Vivi Araújo :: (11) 8638-0399
Silva Saenz :: (11) 7842-9251 | (11) 5052-9135
Aretha Beck :: (11) 9637-0659

At http://www.erosguide.com.br
Duda Bittencourt :: (11) 7171-9853

In Rio:
At http://hotside.com.br
Camila Vitoria (021) 8838-3936
Juliana Martins (21) 9255-1033
Larissa Melo (021) 8753-2133/ 9403-3440/ 9718-2476
(There are many more English speakers at hotside.)

Sui Generis
02-23-07, 10:28
This is a recurring (and I guess legitimate) demand on this forum.

As I see it, the problem with this kind of linguistic criteria is that it is difficult to evaluate beforehand if the coveted garota really speaks English. When you call her on the phone in order to make an appointment, she may be able to mumble «yes» and «no» without really mastering the language. On the other hand, she could have the capacity to understand everything you say to her without being able to reply in an proficient way in English. For example, she could understand (and ideally participate in) a «small talk» conversation without being able to understand a poem like Ezra Pound's The Seafarer. I wonder if that would be really a loss.

A subsidiary question, related to the first one, is the following one: what is the degree of fluency you are looking for? This last criteria is hard to evaluate. I Rio, it is well know, few garotas speak English properly but despite that they still have the ability to communicate with gringos. We may concede, however, that paulista garotas are less exposed to strangers and it follows from that that their capacity to guess what you want to say is less than perfect. This "quasi-sociological" fact does not impede that I once met and took out a NGP working in the Iguatemi Shopping Center who was proficient in English.

In fact, I have always some qualms about the answer garotas put under the rubric "idiomas" (languages). Is it a marketing thing or does it always reflect the reality? I remember my experience with Elektra (who apparently is supposed to speak English). I tried once to test her English abilities. I switch from Portuguese to English but she did not answer in English. She simply smiled at me without saying a damn English word. It's hard to me to tell if she speaks English or not.

I can vouch for Bella. She's even a private English teacher. The problem with her is that she look too european to me.

Jose Lima
02-23-07, 18:56
I agree with Sui Generis, I have spent lots of time in Rio and before I knew any portuguese it was very easy to find a GP that spoke good english, this was back in 1998-1999. I was recentley in Help last month and it seemed that most of the girls spoke broken english. As a matter a fact one girl got mad at me becasue she said that i was a brazilian faking to be an american. She got pissed and didnt want to leave with me. If your looking for english speakings chicks Rio is the spot.

Sao Paulo is a different story. I have not met a single monger in SP soley to monger. Not one gringo in SP just to monger. Its always a business trip or some other reason. Long story short the GP's in SP dont have an insentive to learn english. 90% of their clients are Brasilian 5% are japenese and the rest are indifferent.

Pirruris
02-24-07, 07:13
In the past I have heard worderful things about Club W but have never had the time to explore the place. I am a Cafe Photo regular but I am willing to explore new things.I am planning to be in Sampa nextweek for a cuple of days. Can somebody tell me if Club W is still operating and if it is worth?

Also, please provide directions to it.

Thanks.

Cho 637
02-24-07, 09:26
I agree with Sui Generis, I have spent lots of time in Rio and before I knew any portuguese it was very easy to find a GP that spoke good english, this was back in 1998-1999. I was recentley in Help last month and it seemed that most of the girls spoke broken english. As a matter a fact one girl got mad at me becasue she said that i was a brazilian faking to be an american. She got pissed and didnt want to leave with me. If your looking for english speakings chicks Rio is the spot.

Sao Paulo is a different story. I have not met a single monger in SP soley to monger. Not one gringo in SP just to monger. Its always a business trip or some other reason. Long story short the GP's in SP dont have an insentive to learn english. 90% of their clients are Brasilian 5% are japenese and the rest are indifferent.There aren't many of us going to sp strictly for mongering but we are out there. As a matter of fact I'll be there next month!

Cho 637
02-24-07, 09:34
In the past I have heard worderful things about Club W but have never had the time to explore the place. I am a Cafe Photo regular but I am willing to explore new things.I am planning to be in Sampa nextweek for a cuple of days. Can somebody tell me if Club W is still operating and if it is worth?

Also, please provide directions to it.

Thanks.Here is the address and website:

Rua Alvorada, 550 - Vila Olimpia
Sao, Paulo

Tel (11) 3044-5174

www.wclub.com.br

Genghis Khan
02-24-07, 10:26
Here is the address and website:

Rua Alvorada, 550 - Vila Olimpia
Sao, Paulo

Tel (11) 3044-5174

www.wclub.com.brThanks for the website. I have been a regular there but have never known they had a website. I do think that the website is a bit out of date since the name of the club isn't W anymore. They club has been renovated and changed its name to Garden Club. Otherwise everything is the same. It was an article about it in one of the latest issues of Sexy Premium.

GK

Big In ATL
02-24-07, 21:38
There aren't many of us going to sp strictly for mongering but we are out there. As a matter of fact I'll be there next month!Amen heading there next week.

Pirruris
02-24-07, 22:08
Thanks for the website. I have been a regular there but have never known they had a website. I do think that the website is a bit out of date since the name of the club isn't W anymore. They club has been renovated and changed its name to Garden Club. Otherwise everything is the same. It was an article about it in one of the latest issues of Sexy Premium.

GKThanks for the info and directions.

What is your opinion of this place? How wouuld you rate it vs others : Cafe Photo & Bahamas?

Genghis Khan
02-25-07, 15:13
Thanks for the info and directions.

What is your opinion of this place? How wouuld you rate it vs others : Cafe Photo & Bahamas?Pricing is about the same as in Cafe Photo / Bahamas, but the atmosphere is a bit more relaxed. Like a garden party in someones backyard. The girls are mostly from Porto Alegre (blondes - European types). The difference from earlier years is that now you negotiate the fee directly with the girl and pay an exit fee to the club or take her to one of the two VIP rooms in the club. Earlier the prices for the girls were fixed and paid to the club.

They also have the so called whisky club concept here. If you buy a bottle of whisky you will have free entry for you and your friends as long as you have the bottle. Otherwise there is an entry fee. I am not sure how much it is now.

You should also be aware that although this is the same place as the well regarded W from severral years ago, the owners and the girls from the past has moved on to another club called W.E. on Rua Peixoto Gomide 263, Consolacao. This club is an old hotel renovated into a club and they still operate by the same priciples as the old W. This is in my opinion the best club in Sao Paulo, but the prices are quite high. 600 for 2-3 hours in a room in the club, 800 for 2-3 hours take-out and 1000 for take out all night. These prices are paid directly to the club and are non negotiable. They sometimes bring in some special girls too with a higher price. The atmosphere here is a little more noisy and the club itself (the old lobby and restaurant of the hotel) is smaller than at Garden Club, but the girls here are in my opinion a notch above Garden Club.

Both Garden Club and W.E. are closed on Saturday and Sunday and will be open from 7 - midnight. The peak times are around 9. Go early to beat the crowd and get the best girls.

GK

Genghis Khan
02-26-07, 00:27
Anybody in SP during late April?

GK

Kcrl01
03-03-07, 06:52
I met a girl from Sorocaba, has anyone been there? She's invited me to stay the weekend with her when I'm in Brasil in early APR.

Would there really be anything to do there other than fuck?

Sui Generis
03-03-07, 09:36
I met a girl from Sorocaba, has anyone been there? She's invited me to stay the weekend with her when I'm in Brasil in early APR.

Would there really be anything to do there other than fuck?Here's a link to Sorocaba

http://www.sorocaba.com.br/

It's about the same distance as Campinas, that is to say 45 minutes from Sampa (52 miles or 85km).

The main industry was once textile. Now it's more diversified. It's the third largest city of the interior (state of São Paulo). There's two football clubs and 5 universities. I went there once (Universidade Estadual Paulista) to deliver a lecture. Not the best place on earth, but it's ok.

Between your love sessions with your namoradinha you will be able to find a respectable restaurant or - if you have enough stamina - visit a massage parlor!

Chris 007
03-05-07, 04:42
I'm going to Sao Palo in a couple weeks. Can enyone recommend where I can find the very best, most exclusive, most beautiful, european looking girls?

Sui Generis
03-05-07, 06:53
I'm going to Sao Palo in a couple weeks. Can enyone recommend where I can find the very best, most exclusive, most beautiful, european looking girls?

I would like to help you but your question is too vague. What do you mean by «european looking girls»? Now, with the configuaration of the new Europe almost every countries from Portugal to Russia and from Cyprus to Finland are included in this political entity.

Are you looking for a blonde with blue eyes (nordic type)? Or a sultry brunette (mediterranean style)? Or a red-haired with an ivory complexion (Irish)?

I know several garotas that have an European origin, like, for example, Tatiana Amaral and Luize Muller (German descent), Bellaxxx (Italian descent) and another one that is from Polish descent.Have a scout round the different Web sites, you will find what you are looking for. But according to me, the best advice would be to go to a high end club like Bahamas, Cafe Photo, Jardím América. You will feel like a little boy in a candy store.

Genghis Khan
03-05-07, 09:45
I would like to help you but your question is too vague. What do you mean by «european looking girls»? Now, with the configuaration of the new Europe almost every countries from Portugal to Russia and from Cyprus to Finland are included in this political entity.

Are you looking for a blonde with blue eyes (nordic type)? Or a sultry brunette (mediterranean style)? Or a red-haired with an ivory complexion (Irish)?

I know several garotas that have an European origin, like, for example, Tatiana Amaral and Luize Muller (German descent), Bellaxxx (Italian descent) and another one that is from Polish descent.Have a scout round the different Web sites, you will find what you are looking for. But according to me, the best advice would be to go to a high end club like Bahamas, Cafe Photo, Jardím América. You will feel like a little boy in a candy store.

SG,
Wasn't Jardim America closed a long time ago? At least the management and the girls from the glory days has moved on to W.E.

Chris007,
Take a look at the post on Garden Club and W.E. further down on this page too. Very nice girls (a bit expensive though) and what is typically referred to as "European types" (slender blonde model types as opposed to the "Brazilian types" - dark skinned and curvy).

GK

Sprite13
03-06-07, 07:07
I'll be in SP in April, arriving at GRU at 10am with a connecting flight to the interior of Brasil at 8pm. Is it realistically possible with the big traffic of SP to get to a close by restaurant to eat lunch and then relaxar a bit. What would you experts advise to be the best way to go:
a) going into a close by clinica such as Kin from which I have read a lot of praise on this board.
b) go to a motel/hotel and order an escort.
Speaking of escorts, the pics on the various Sampa sites are very beautiful, almost looking too good to be true. Girls on sites like mclass, sexdreams and erosguide, how much do they charge and for how long? And how reliable are the pics on those sites?

Can anyone recommend an hotel/motel located close-by GRU as well as some good and fun clinicas for some afternoon fun in between 2 flights?

Valeu.

Russelinosb
03-06-07, 16:55
Gentlemen,

For thoose that are looking for nothing but the best, this is the spot.

www.thepalms.com.br (check-it!)

Located in Vila Olimpia, this house is truly a five star regarding massage houses, All the girls on the website all work there, some speak English fluently, (Angelina and Yumi). They are open (Mon-Sat) from 11am to 11pm, take a look at their website the girls are amazing. I would recommend a reservation to be made, enjoy!

Jose Lima
03-07-07, 18:47
Gentlemen,

For thoose that are looking for nothing but the best, this is the spot.

www.thepalms.com.br (check-it!)

Located in Vila Olimpia, this house is truly a five star regarding massage houses, All the girls on the website all work there, some speak English fluently, (Angelina and Yumi). They are open (Mon-Sat) from 11am to 11pm, take a look at their website the girls are amazing. I would recommend a reservation to be made, enjoy!


Whats the cost? Service? Atitude of the girls?

Sui Generis
03-07-07, 19:20
I'll be in SP in April, arriving at GRU at 10am with a connecting flight to the interior of Brasil at 8pm. Is it realistically possible with the big traffic of SP to get to a close by restaurant to eat lunch and then relaxar a bit.
Can anyone recommend an hotel/motel located close-by GRU as well as some good and fun clinicas for some afternoon fun in between 2 flights?

Valeu.

I think you'll have time (not a lot, but enough) to visit Kin's clinique. However, you have to take in consideration that if your flight is at 8pm, it means that you should leave the city around 4pm, or even 3,30pm. Traffic jams are always possible (no, I should rather say: they are a reality!) in Sampa.

There's one escort working in Guarulhos
http://www.beatriceguarulhos.********.com/

Several privês (all of them are not recommendable) This one seems to be good Privê: 108 Rua Olinda de Albuquerque (R$50 for 1h)

A clinica: 3176 Av. Marechal Humberto de Alencar Castelo Branco- Guarulhos - SP
Phones: (11) 6422-1986 / 7622-4191
Site: http://www.clubg.com.br

Here’s a link for Motels in Guarulhos
http://www.guaru.net/guarulhos/imoveis/moteis/

I won't advise you to call an escort (Eros Guide, MClass, etc). Habitually the pics are heavily photosphopped and there's a lot of bait'n switch. On the other hand, sometimes it's hard to contact a garota at the last minute.

Russelinosb
03-07-07, 20:55
Au contraire,

The Borg (guajira) opens at 10am with a girl or two, useful for a morning quickie.

Indeed, the full set usually arrives only at noon or so.

Murilloa
03-08-07, 08:52
José Lima:

Quite expensive, it would seem: R$400 to 500, around the £100 mark for us Londoners, who would have to pay £150 to £200 for something like this. Still, The Palms is certainly pricey by Brazilian standards.

But if you don't read Portuguese, rest assured that most of the punters are saying it is value for money and that the girls provide all services with a great attitude.

http://www.gpguia.net/phpbb/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=1670&start=230

Willie Wonkers
03-09-07, 21:35
I would like to help you but your question is too vague. What do you mean by «european looking girls»? Now, with the configuaration of the new Europe almost every countries from Portugal to Russia and from Cyprus to Finland are included in this political entity.

Are you looking for a blonde with blue eyes (nordic type)? Or a sultry brunette (mediterranean style)? Or a red-haired with an ivory complexion (Irish)?

I know several garotas that have an European origin, like, for example, Tatiana Amaral and Luize Muller (German descent), Bellaxxx (Italian descent) and another one that is from Polish descent.Have a scout round the different Web sites, you will find what you are looking for. But according to me, the best advice would be to go to a high end club like Bahamas, Cafe Photo, Jardím América. You will feel like a little boy in a candy store.Have you ever been with either Tatiana Amaral and Luize Muller? The reports on gpguia are amazing, though slightly better for Tatiana? Any recommendations? Thanks.

I am going to be in Lima in April and am trying to decide whether to just explore there or stick to my favorite brasil and hop over to Sao Paolo on Gol for $285 bucks!

Sui Generis
03-10-07, 07:47
Hi Willie Wonkers,

To be honest with you, I have never been with Tatiana Amaral. However, the last time I was in São Paulo, the first thing I did (after calling my girlfriend) was to meet my friend (who happens to be a moderator on the Brazilian forum and still an active monger).

He had only words of praise for Tatiana Amaral (and a certain Paloma). I didn't visit Tatiana (Quality flat on Rouxinol) because she lives just across the street where my girlfriend lives. Just too bad. My friend mention that Tatiana was a PSE (Porn Star Experience). She raised her price to $R250 but, as you mentioned, she is very estimated by the Brazilian hobbyists.

http://www.clubmodel.com.br/perfil.php?id=11

Jetmasterx
03-17-07, 00:50
Hi,

I am traveling to SP next week and am looking for english speaking girls that would do an visit to my hotel. Any suggestions of good looking options?

Thanks

Norhead
03-18-07, 13:43
I was in Sao Paulo two years ago, and visited an a-go-go called My Love. Had some nice and friendly girls. Remember we had some action behind the curtains, and the action continued in the hotel.

But I have forgot the location and adress. There were a few other girliebars in the same quarter. Can somebody help with adress/location?

Prosal
03-18-07, 14:58
Rua Nestor Pestana, in Centro. It almost faces Kilt.

Full Throttle
03-19-07, 02:05
One of the (few) low-cost things I haven't done in SP is the Cinema. Can anyone provide directions to it from Paulista or Kilt or LoveStory. I think I saw it a block off of Augusta driving in one day, but I might be mistaken.

Prosal
03-19-07, 17:24
FT

Just stroll in the few blocks north of Praça da Republica (behind the bus terminal for Guarulhos). There's some cines in this area.

Also I've been told that there is one somewhere on av Ipiranga, the avenue which leads to the south side of the Praça, yet I don't know the exact location.

Ajordan
03-21-07, 21:46
Any tips for day mongering, and then night mongering.

FIrst time to Sao Paulo.. have been to RIO. Love the termas..

Staying at this location/area..
Braston São Paulo
Rua Martins Fontes, 330 -
Barrio Consolação
CEP: 01050-000 - São Paulo/SP
Fone: (55-11) 3156-2400
Fax: (55-11) 3258-5812

All advice appreciated. I dont speak portugeese however fluent in spanish.

Looking to have a good time and not over pay.. PLEASE Send replys..

Thanks,

Ajordan

Devil Hunter
03-22-07, 00:11
Hello Sao Paulo,

Guys I'm in SP now. Just need information is there any other club similar to CAFE PHOTO. I mean same quality of girls but cheaper than Cafe Photo.

Last time when I was in SP I went to cafe photo. Really nice place with best girls you can find but was very expensive. I end up paying are$ 500 to girl for cpl of hours.

Anyways. Any suggestions of good looking options?

Thx

Jeronimo42
03-22-07, 04:59
Hello,

Great information on this board, thanks guys! I am new here and will spend a little time in Sao Paolo, and I have - after literally hours of stimulating reading - have some questions. And yes, I prefer to pay a bit more if the quality is better.

Clubs:

Cafe Millennium seems to be recommended by many - price still at around 100 R$ including some drinks? didn't find a website, do they have one?

Cafe Photo seems less appreciated, more expensive, but Bahamas could be an interesting although expensive option? And Jardim America?

The Palms is high quality as well, but more of a massage club.

Are there any "strip clubs only", where just chilling out and watching a few shows is good?

Did anybody try the new "swing clubs" which seems to become quite popular? Men and women pay to get in, women disguised according to theme rooms, and anything is possible?

Can you get by without portuguese in these clubs?

Escorts:

I have read a lot about photos which would not correspond to the girl etc. Any trustworthy websites, where you can find englsih speaking girls?

And, a bit off-topic, if anybody could recommend nice bars with beautiful people who do not speak portuguese only, that would be highly appreciated.

I guess walking around at night in SP is highly discoured, alhough in some areas this shouldn't be a problem.

*****

I have tried to summarize what I got from the posts dating about 12 months back. Thanks for answering if any of the above is wrong or outdated.

Thanks so much,

Ed.

Sui Generis
03-22-07, 10:15
Hello,

1- Are there any "strip clubs only", where just chilling out and watching a few shows is good?

2- I have read a lot about photos which would not correspond to the girl etc. Any trustworthy websites, where you can find englsih speaking girls?

3- And, a bit off-topic, if anybody could recommend nice bars with beautiful people who do not speak portuguese only, that would be highly appreciated.

4- I guess walking around at night in SP is highly discoured, alhough in some areas this shouldn't be a problem.

*****

Ed.

For a strip club (American style) there's always Solid Gold, in Moema

http://www.solidgold.com.br/indx.htm

2- Trustworthy websites are: ClubModel, Sexdreams.

3- Bars? It depends where you will stay. I like bars in Moema, Vila Olimpia., Pinheiros.

4- It's not a problem in Moema

Voyajer1
03-22-07, 13:09
Any tips for day mongering, and then night mongering.

FIrst time to Sao Paulo.. have been to RIO. Love the termas..

Staying at this location/area..
Braston São Paulo
Rua Martins Fontes, 330 -
Barrio Consolação
CEP: 01050-000 - São Paulo/SP
Fone: (55-11) 3156-2400
Fax: (55-11) 3258-5812

All advice appreciated. I dont speak portugeese however fluent in spanish.

Looking to have a good time and not over pay.. PLEASE Send replys..

Thanks,

AjordanYou are less than a a mile from Rua Augusta. There are plenty of budget minded places with a lot of good looking girls on this street. My personal favorite is New Maison at 650 Rua Augusta. However, if you don't like what you see there, there are a lot of many other options right in the same area (Check out Bubba Boy's Guide for other locations). They are almost right on top of each other. You are so close, you don't even have to take a taxi, depending on how hammered you want to get. Yes, spanish will get your message accross, for whatever you want to do, trust me. Enjoy yourself.

Almotu
03-22-07, 15:41
Hey folks,
Will be returning to Sao Paulo first week in APRIL. Have stayed in Paulista/Jardins area - and once in Moema @ the Mercure Priviledge. All pretty decent with wireless Internet. I would like to visit KILT, Bomboa, Cafe Millenium, and some of Clinicas (especially Kin).

Any recommendations on a budget hotel centrally located to the ACTION? Less than $100/night. I have been looking into the Mercure, Tryp and Golden Tulip chain. Private rental apartments with maid service would also be considered.

Thanks in advance!

Prosal
03-22-07, 16:18
Almotu

I agree that the choice of the 'right' location is important in Sao Paulo. This city is HUGE. I also stayed a few times at the Mercures in Moema and had average taxi expenses of +/- 150 reals each night (usually I began with Cafe Gauguin in Brooklin, then Bomboa in Pinheiros, then some regular bar in Itaim or V.Olimpia, then Love Story in Centro, and then back to Moema at dawn). It wasn't a problem when the real was at 3.5 or 4, but now it's VERY different. Moema is definitely too far.

Anyway if your favorite 'action' is around N Pestana and Augusta, then the best option is IMO the former Mercure Centro on rua Araujo (where Love Story is located).

It's now managed by the Atlantica chain and named Comfort Hotel Downtown.

Atlantica Hotels website (www.atlanticahotels.com.br/atlantica/hoteis/busca.asp?NumFuncionalidade=17&busca=ok&Cidade=São%20Paulo).

Full Throttle
03-22-07, 20:50
My SP mongering has become quite limited in scope. I once considered Cafe' Photo a decadent, but reasonable option. $400R was expensive, but, at 3.3R/ 1$, one could justify the occasional treat. Bomboa was the inexpensive preference, at 80R entrada (including 6 beers), 30R rooms before 3pm and girls would go for 150R. One could usually stay under $100US, and would never get over $150. But now? $120 entrada, 60R rooms, 200-300R girls, and the prevailing exchange rate of $2.05R/$1US? You can't get out of experience for less than $220US!

I understand that things change and I'm not angry with Lula or Bush or the girls or any of you. Still, this dramatic rise in prices has occurred over 30 short months!

So, I find myself drawn to Clinica Kin practically every visit. In fact, every non-Sunday visit. This week, after several months away, was no exception. It is a ways away on Dr. R. Dr. Jose Marques da Cruz 235. The street intersects Roque Jr. a tiny bit nw of the Roque Jr. and Sto. Amarro intersection. It is essentially two houses attached by a courtyard and a common garage. There are around 8 rooms total, all modeled with new floors, massage tables and/or futons. I've never been on a massage table there. Sessions described are 60 minutes.

The clinic opens at noon. By 2PM, the entire staff is in place to serve you. On both days, the lineup featured 9-12 girls. Unlike Berrini's across the street, the introductions are personable and sweet. There were a couple of girls with some infrastructure to support formidable racks, but most are petite. Currently, only one morena is on staff-- the highly-reviewed Valeria (rhymes with "maleria"). There are 3 blonds: Bia, http://clinicakin.com.br/massagistas_camila_01.htm and Sabrina. The prettiest are Jade, Jessica (http://clinicakin.com.br/massagistas_jessica_01.htm), Ellen (http://clinicakin.com.br/massagistas_ellen_01.htm) and Dani http://clinicakin.com.br/massagistas_dani_01.htm , in no particular order and according to most people's tastes. The best performers are Ellen, Jessica, Camila, Dani (although no anal) and the ubiquitous Cleo who has set the gold standard for years.

This trip, my wingman took Jade and Stephanie on day one. The dupla price is only 160R compared to 120R for the single. Like everyone else who I have brought to this place, he found himself in comfortable amazement with the experience. He, by the way, is a very experienced monger in his own right.

The madame and I have a fun relationship. She’s nearly 50, but is attractive, fit, personable and professional. Everyone I have brought wants to do her though we are in the presence of beautiful young women. I usually take her recommendations when not repeating, and did so with Dani. This young girl of 22 has a beautiful, unpretentious smile to accompany her very happy demeanor. As I mentioned, she is reputed not to do anal, but seemed receptive of digital play. Even after 30-40 minutes of foreplay, she has the distinction in my book of having the tightest pu$#y I have ever entered. Keep in mind, I am of Scottish/ Irish descent, and am many inches from being intimidating.

On day 2, I took her advice once again and chose Sabrina—a 4’11” blond, 24-year old with a dimply-smile and a mediocre boob-job. She was very comfortable with her body and was enthusiastic with everything we did.

My buddy took Jessica who is a wonderfully oral girl with a sweet disposition. Her GPGUIA record is 33-0-0 (33 positive, 0 neutral, 0 negative). Add my experience last year and my wingman’s experience yesterday to the positive side.

I should mention that I do not receive anything from Kin for promoting them. In fact, it detracts from my experience as I am no longer the American novelty I once was. I share only because they deserve it and this board will only work if we share our best finds all of the time.

The night between Kin visits consisted of some beers on Paulista next to Trianan Park which is always a nice outdoor vantage point, dinner at Bovino’s (highly recommend at 20R), drinks at All Black on Oscar de Freir.., and a couple of drinks in what I call “Deep Augusta.”

Deep Augusta is the neon section of R. Augusta on the Paulista side of Kilt and Big Ben. There was an absolute beauty at Maison (taken, of course). She could compete with anyone at Kilt or Bomboa, and could be had on-site for around 100-120R including the room.

Balneiro Club has become a hangout for listless girls. A pretty blond gave me some attention. She was definitely cute enough but she was shit-faced. That’s not so bad in and of itself, but it seemed to affect her dedication to hygiene for the day, so I passed.

My wingman went down to My Love (which may have changed names to Cocktail, which was the name of Oceano…). He pulled a hot little blond out of there for $150R plus the drink penalty. She stayed for a couple of hours. SP has to be one of the few cities in the world where traditional strip joints are less expensive than most other venues.

Speaking of that, I ran across WE for the first time. It looks like a nice place, but I suspect I’ll never see the inside of it.

FT

Surferr3
03-23-07, 00:40
Great report.

I asked jackson to add it to reports of distinction.

Others asking about hotels "in the area"..... Im not familiar with Rua Augusta but Mercure Jardins was ALWAYS reviewed well previously and its less than 100 US. Great location as well.

Ajordan
03-23-07, 00:48
Does anyone have a map to post? I have no clue where Im going. However I hear that the Brooklen is far for me.

Look below for where Im staying and any recommendations are greatly appreciated.

Regards,

Ajordan

Voyajer1
03-23-07, 14:01
Does anyone have a map to post? I have no clue where Im going. However I hear that the Brooklen is far for me.

Look below for where Im staying and any recommendations are greatly appreciated.

Regards,

AjordanUse the link http://br.mapas.yahoo.com/ and it will tell you directions from your location to any destination, including cabfare. Good luck.

Prosal
03-23-07, 15:37
PLEASE Send replys..Thanks

Consolaçao begins in Centro and finish in Jardins so you don't have to worry, it's a very central location.

If your hotel is located in Jardins, as I suppose, then Pinheiros (Bomboa) is just a few blocks north, and the taxi ride to N.Pestana/Augusta strip bars will not take more than 10 minutes.

Brooklin is not THAT far.

Almotu
03-24-07, 01:15
Thanks FT, for an informative report on Clinica Kin and Deep Augusta.

I will be in Sampa next week and Kin is on the top of my list. I was there last August, saw the line up but did not partake. I went across the street to Berrini and saw the line up there as well, for my taste the girls looked hotter there than Kin but they are less friendly so performance might be sub-par. Again unfortunately I did not partake. I had the hots for this redhead, Jack . . . but alas it looks like she is no longer there . . . http://berrinimassagem.com.br/massagistas.htm At $R100 = 1hr, it is worth a look.

Because I respect your insight, what would you say are the places with the best options on deep Augusta. What would be the central drop off point so that you can walk around and hit all the pertinent places.

I agree with you that Sao Paulo is more expensive than Rio. I go there to see one of my regulars. As the USD continue to sink, at some point would you not come to Sao Paulo period? and redirect your energy & dollars to Buenos Aires, let say?

Can you recommend other off the beaten path places in Sao Paulo that would be entertaining? Any intel on prives?

Thanks as always. I will enjoy putting to use your reports on the local Termas in Centro, Rio on this trip!

Jeronimo42
03-24-07, 15:03
Thanks Sui Generis for your answer and information.

Went to Millenium, prices are still what they were reported here: 100$ at the door which includes 6 beers (or 3 stronger drinks), 70$ for a room, and the present for the girl. I was with Laura, a tall dark haired beauty from SP. She started at 300$, we settled for 200$. A bit young for my taste, some basic english, but man what a body! If you meet her, treat her nicely.

Nothing to worry about re safety. Taxi brings you right to the door / to the garage (30$ from Bela Vista).

The reports here were very helpful, thanks again.

Later,

Ed

Wandering Fool
03-24-07, 15:04
Hi,

With many of the escort sites like:

http://www.mclass.com.br/scripts/mclass.dll/main

You can only view one photo of a girl. Can you join these sites using a US credit card? Is it secure?

Thanks

Wandering Fool
03-25-07, 01:45
Ok, two questions in a row...

Do you think, if you're looking for the highest absolute level of girls, that SP beats Rio?

I have the option for the last 3 days of my trip next week to spend it in Rio or SP. I've done Rio 4 times, never SP. What I do notice is that looking on the escort sites, it does look like there might be more super hotties in SP (just based on pics -then again maybe the photoshop editors are better in SP). I have heard some mongers say they think SP has the better looking girls.

So my questions are:

1. If you are looking for the best of the best in SP does that mean W.E. and Bahamas, or is there an agency that can beat them?

2. Do the girls at the above places beat the top Termas girls in Rio?


For looks, this is what I go for, narrow waist, round bunda, hair color doesn't matter:

http://sexdreams.com.br/mini_book.php?id=ac001908
http://sexdreams.com.br/mini_book.php?id=ac002705

Almotu
03-25-07, 03:45
WF,

IMHO, there is a more professional quality to the girls working the clubs in Sampa. More 'distance' than the pure unadulterated action in a Rio Terma. In Sampa you have to work harder to find the right girl and spend more money period. I would not trust the photos on websites, mclass is one of the worse offenders. Most times you will get the bait and switch and won't get the girl in the photo. It is not easy to get a hold of the GDP, no shows and being late for the appointment are common.

I enjoyed the atmosphere of Bahamas and Bomboa but with all the charges (entrance, drinks, room charge) you are likely to spend $R150-$R200 w/o counting the cost of sex!

That said, I think you should experience Sao Paulo at least once. It is a cosmopolitan business center with sophisicated taste in restaurants, etc. But with only 3 days to play with, I would not count on finding a 10 in appearance and performance.

You could start with her. Her photos are accurate and she get decent reviews in the Brazilian forums, she may have a fuller figure now but she is a good provider. ELLEN is probably 23 y. O. Now.

http://www.ellass.com.br/modelo.asp?pid=1392

I have no opinion about W. E. , I don't think I've been there. Cafe Photo should be experienced but W & Enchanter is nothing special. They have the atmosphere of a cozy cigar lounge.

I feel that the girls you get in Sao Paulo are more conscious that they are hooking versus the HELP freelancer that don't go all the time but only occasionally to make some petty cash to buy the latest hot looking cellphone, shoes, etc. Believe or not, the website charge the girls to advertise on their sites. They have to pay for professional photo shoots etc.

Another minus for Sao Paulo is that the women in the streets are dressed conservatively most of the time, in professional pant suits, bulky sweaters as soon as the weather hits 60 degrees, not much for eye candy. But if you can pick up women in your native locale, you can definitely score in Sao Paulo. But may take longer than 3 days.

Hope this helps, last time I was in Sao Paulo was August 2006.

Almotu

Surferr3
03-25-07, 12:39
To each their own. I've been to both Rio and SP and I would take SP ANY day of the week over Rio. Of course, there are many members here who would say the exact opposite.

SP (Jardins area) is such a great experience. The culture and vibe is different than Rio and the girls in SP (IMHO) win hands down.

I've been many places buit I consider Bahamas in my top 3. It is always a must visit place when I travel to Brazil. It is very expensive but I dont mind the extra dinero for a target rich environment where I have trouble choosing a girl.

Surferr3
03-25-07, 12:44
It sounds like you've been to Rio quite a few times. If that is the case you should definately sample SP for a few days. Hell, the excitement of visitng a new city is reason enough.

Three hotels I would reccommend in the Jardins area based on various costs:

Mercure Jardins Less than 100 US
Renaissance (1 block from Mercure) less than 200 US
Hotel Unique (few miles away) 300 US or so. If you have the cash to burn, stay there. I grabbed a chica out of Bahamas and when I told her I was staying there she said she'd spend the night for free as she wanted to experience the place. It is ultra hip, modern, and the roof top bar has the best view of the city. The bellman are more than happy to call interent girls for you from your room. Just tip them well:)

Have fun and report back on Bahamas if you go.

Jose Lima
03-25-07, 15:08
Ok, two questions in a row...

Do you think, if you're looking for the highest absolute level of girls, that SP beats Rio?

I have the option for the last 3 days of my trip next week to spend it in Rio or SP. I've done Rio 4 times, never SP. What I do notice is that looking on the escort sites, it does look like there might be more super hotties in SP (just based on pics -then again maybe the photoshop editors are better in SP). I have heard some mongers say they think SP has the better looking girls.

So my questions are:

1. If you are looking for the best of the best in SP does that mean W.E. and Bahamas, or is there an agency that can beat them?

2. Do the girls at the above places beat the top Termas girls in Rio?


For looks, this is what I go for, narrow waist, round bunda, hair color doesn't matter:

http://sexdreams.com.br/mini_book.php?id=ac001908
http://sexdreams.com.br/mini_book.php?id=ac002705


There is no way that you can compare Rio to SP in terms of perfect 10's or meeting hot GP or regular girls. I dont know how people can actually compare the 2 cities in terms of anything besides beaches. I have been to rio more times then i can count and SP a good 7 times now. There is no comparision in the catagories of women, GPs, regular clubs, restaruants, bars, luxury, nothing. Rio has only a handfull of termas SP has hundreds, Rio has a handfull of really good clubs SP has hundreds. There is always a new termas, casa, message house, regular club, or new hot spot opening daily.

I love rio for the beach but dat about it.

If I was on a budget I probley would have more fun in Rio...maybe.... but i doubt that highly. Shit I would rather check out goiana then Rio for 3 days.

my 2 cents

El Greco
03-25-07, 16:27
Hi there,

I have been passing from SAO/GRU several times (on my way to Buenos Aires, Rio, Belo Horizonte etc ) but never had the chance of an overnight stop.

This time I arranged my arrival from Rio, on my way home, on a Saturday afternoon and my departure on Sunday afternoon.

I will be staying at the Mercure apartments at Guarulhos.

My plan is to visit Clinica Kin and/or Berrini.
Can somebody advise me if they are open on Saturday evenings and till what time and if there is an alternative way to go near them from Guarulhos apart from taxi.
I mean a regular luxury bus service from GRU to downtown SAO similar to the REAL bus service of RIO/GIG. Is there a metro station near them?

In their sites they do not mention hours of operation.

Thanks

El Greco

Bubba Boy
03-25-07, 16:30
The number one reason you will decide which is better for you out of rio or sampa is what look of the women you like. You will of course find all looks in both cities, but a "white" look predomintes in Sampa, particularly at the higher end places. While in Rio the more mixed color, darker skin looks predominates. I personally prefer the morena, mixed color skin, hence Rio rules for me, I can find it difficult to find my ideal look in Sampa - but then the more times I go to Brazil the fussier I get.

Rio rules for me but I cannot live there because of the crime in your face everyday and a few other reasons associated with a third world country.

Jose Lima
03-25-07, 17:18
The number one reason you will decide which is better for you out of rio or sampa is what look of the women you like. You will of course find all looks in both cities, but a "white" look predomintes in Sampa, particularly at the higher end places. While in Rio the more mixed color, darker skin looks predominates. I personally prefer the morena, mixed color skin, hence Rio rules for me, I can find it difficult to find my ideal look in Rio - but then the more times I go to Brazil the fussier I get.

Rio rules for me but I cannot live there because of the crime in your face everyday and a few other reasons associated with a third world country.


I truely respect everyones comments on this board. And every man has the right to his own honest opinion. I just can never understand why people enjoy rio more then Sampa. Whatever type of girl(Dark, Light, White, Asian) whatever type of food(Brazilian, Asian, Indian, American) whatever type of club(High end hip hop/techno, Local bar/pub, Low end, or quiet chill spots) and whatever type of GP(Black, white, skinney, morena, large butt, tiny waist) you would ever have the desire for is there. For me it is like Rio times 20. I loved rio when I first started going there back in '99. I went 6 times a year for 4 years straight. I just got bored with going to the same places and seeing the same girls. Help, Barbs, 4x4, Centarous, luamos, franks, and VM on the low end. Thats the GP scene in Rio in a nutshell. Club scene you got Barronitti, Nuth, bombar, Catwalk, shenanigins pub, melt, and the jockey club. Shopping you got barra shopping, rio sol, ipenema and leblom which is mediocre. A handfull of good restaraunts. oh yea and the famous COPACABANA. With the lone mia pateca sitting in the wind. Thats the rio scene.

In SP you can go to a different message parlor, great restaraunt, discoteca, pub, and GP boate, and late night club/puteria every night of the week for 6 months and never repeat the same place. Like I said I loved rio but SP is Rio ten times over. I would really like to know some of the actual facts that go into saying that rio has something-anything over SP besides the beach.

Bubba Boy
03-25-07, 17:42
Everyone is different and has different opinions, thats what makes the world a fun place to be in.

Prosal
03-25-07, 18:00
Rio's P4P scene is largely over-rated.

After all, it's just two or three terraces cafes, one disco, a handfull of strip bars, some MPs, a few hundreds of hardened faveladas who have all had miles of cocks ... and nothing else.

Wandering Fool
03-25-07, 18:38
Thanks guys for some very helpful responses. I'm definitely tempted to try SP for the last leg of my trip -if just to experience another city.

I didn't want to mention money because I don't mind spending it if it's a sure thing with a 9 or 10, but with the current xchange rate, the prices I'm seeing for a top girl in SP is not too far off from the US (when you factor in the hotel and flight it's more expensive). As soon as you are talking 800r-1200r for a girl, in the US you can find an indy girl for $400-$600 who is hot (and GFE) -some are brazilians. Go to $700-$750 and she can be stunning. That's one thing that discourages me from SP, not so much the price but that it's getting close to what I could get in the US.

In terms of any advantage of GFE attitude, as Almotu indicates, the SP girls have a bit more of a pro attitude -once again, that is sounding more like the US.

A while back I was working out in my gym here in the US and saw a hot girl on one of the machines -great body, pretty face. Talked her up a bit (turned out she was Paulista) but she was in "I'm here to work out, not meet guys" mode so I backed off. I watched her for a moment bending and stretching, knowing it wasn't going to happen, and thought to myself, "Man, some lucky guy is going to tap that girl, what a body!" (for reference I do get some play but this one was NOT having it). The next day I go to see a pro who's pics on Eros looked good (no face shot). I walk in to the apartment and....it's the SAME GIRL! We both laughed recognizing each other. It was incredible to be able to live out my desires for her. She was GFE and because of the way we met, it seemed more like a date than a pro situation?

Why do I mention this? Because she is my reference standard. At any time, for $350us I can see this Brazilian gfe not to far from where I live. Her face is 8 and body 8.5. Despite that, spending an afternoon at Centaurs in Rio with a room full of girls who look like her (and some hotter) and nailing them 3 in a visit for around $100us a pop was always no brainer (when the xchng was 3 to1). Going to SP now and spending $400-$500us a pop for the same thing (with possibly less enthusiastic perfomances) would only be worth it with solid 9.5-10's.

Bubba Boy
03-25-07, 19:40
It is a shit load more expensive in Sampa. I am thinking the top girls are at leasts twice as expensive, maybe 3 times in Sampa than in Rio. They are also in my opinion less down and dirty than there Rio counterparts, or at least the girls that are in Rio (many are from sampa).

I have been to sampa maybe 10 times now and just can't get into it.

Sui Generis
03-25-07, 20:06
Porra!

There's no way to compare São Paulo and Rio because the two cities are too different and one is not better than the other. This is not - and it should not be - a contest between two style of hobbying because too many different aspects enter into consideration here. To be polite, we can say that both city have their strenght...but I guess that it doesn't rest the case. So, respectfully, I'll also take position.

As you may know, personally (and I put an emphasis on that word), in general I prefer São Paulo but this not mean that I don't like Rio.

Here are some reasons why I prefer São Paulo over a cidade maravilhosa.

1- Even if Rio is probably the most beautiful city of the world, I have always a feeling of oppression, being stuck between the sea and the mountains. This feeling is particularly exacerbated in Copacabana. There's no room to move! The sea, Avenida Atlantica, Avenida Nossa Senhora de Copacabana, Av. Barata Ribeiro and then Av. Pompeu Loureiro. Or, in Ipanema, the sea, Avenida Viera Souto, Av. Prudente Morais, AV. Visconde de Piraja, Av. Epitacio Pessoa and - big deal! - the lake!!!! There's no need here to list all the streets of the city because all districts have almost the same geographical setting....being ensconced between the sea and the morros.

This is a major defect for me. But, on the other hand, I think this is probably the reason why so many hobbyists/tourists like the city. It is reassuring to know that your hobbying playground is limited in that way. Copacabana is like a «sandbox of hobbying». It is easy to practice our hobby in Copacabana: everyone is on the automatic pilot there. A «rookie in hobbying» will easily find his way.

In São Paulo, when you don't know the city, you can have the same feeling of oppression. But once you know your whereabouts the city is a huge playground....almost offering endless possibilities. However, this feeling of liberty comes with a price: you must be ready to take some risks and (alas!) be ready to travel quite a distance between your favorite fun spots.

To put my comparison between the two cities in a nutshell, I should say that Rio is like fishing alevins in an artifical pound (you are sure to catch a fish) while in São Paulo you are fishing a swordfish on the open sea (this liberty comes with a price: you may eventually come back empty handed).

So, for me, São Paulo 1 Rio 0 but objectively speaking - if I am honest - it could be Rio 1 São Paulo 0. My advice: if you are a tourist, our with a limited knowledge of Portuguese Rio wins over São Paulo.

2- I prefer São Paulo because there's a lot of restaurants, museums, shopping centers, concert halls, shows, libraries, bookstores and sebos (used book stores). Your choice is limited in Rio. There's always something new in São Paulo. Fo example, the last time I was there they opened a new Shopping center in Morumbi. São Paulo 1 Rio 0

3- The girls. Oh boy, this is a tough one....Yeah, at first sight there are more morenas in Rio. But I guess this is an optical illusion. In fact there seem to be more because they are all located in the same spots: the «Copacabana sandbox»/«artificial pound». Put 200 morenas in a disco and put the same morenas in Maracana (in different sections of the stadium). In the first place they would appear like a million morenas, while in the stadium we won't notice them.

One problem is that a famous forum in São Paulo give the impression that there are more blondes or whites GP than morenas or tupiniquins. This distortion occurs because native hobbyists prefer to bang with white GDP (don't forget it is a fantasy world. At home they have a morena as a wife and their fantasm is to bang a white chick!) Read all the reports (not only those of the popular GDP) and you will notice that there is a huge variety of GP to choose from.


On my last trip I only met morenas! (paulistas da gema and paulistas from Rio, Ceara, Minas Gerais, Bahia, Porto Allegre). The selection is large in São Paulo and you can find different type of GP: blondes, morenas, nisseis (not too many. Oh by the way nisei = is half japanese half brazilian), indians. The problem in São Paulo is again the distance between the fun spots. Sometime you will have to ride quite a distance to find the girl of your dream while in Rio you just have to cross the street.


4- I prefer São Paulo because - God be blessed! - I was adopted by a bunch of crazy brazilian posters from a Brazilian popular forum (based in São Paulo). It means that when I am there I always meet these seasoned and expert hobbyists in social settings : bars, restaurants, private parties, swing clubs. Not only I have special informations (not even disclosed in the forum) but several GDP attend these meetings, so I have the opportunity to spend the evening with them (in a social setting) and there is always the possibility to make a deal with one of them and spend the night (or a couple of hours) in my hotel room or at their flat. I'm maybe an antypical hobbyist but I don't feel the pro-attitude of the garotas with me. Many pernoite (the night long) with GP for $R150-$R200. I have a golden rule: never pay more than $R200.

In Rio I am a total stranger...nobodies know me (anymore....).

To sum it up: I prefer São Paulo. This is a personal preference based on some subjective and some objective facts. Other people can have another perception. But I think overall that Rio would be a better place to hobby than São Paulo JUST IN CASE IF YOU ARE A ROOKIE IN THIS HOBBY OR LESS PRONE TO TAKE SOME RISKS.

My two cents

valeu!

PS. Bubba
When it comes to garotas Sampa is not more expensive than Rio: the avergae price is R$150- R$200 for a couple of hours or more. Restaurants can be expensive though...but when I travel I also like to indulge a little bit!

Genghis Khan
03-25-07, 20:34
The diversity of the SP scene is what brings me back and Rio can't match that. I have only gone to Rio once, so I don't know all the options available but SP is unique in this regard.

One argument pro Rio here has been that some guys like the darker skinned girls and that the girls in SP tends to have a lighter skin color. Although the SP girls are predominantly lighter skinned, there has got to be more dark skinned girls in SP than in Rio.

The less professional attitude of the Rio girls has also been mentioned as a pro Rio argument. I think this is a cultural issue. The people in SP are brought up to have a more professional and work related attitude than in Rio. SP does however have a lot of GPs from all over the country. If the professional attitude is a turnoff, look for a girl from Porto Alegre, Santa Catarina or even Rio for that matter. There are a lot of them in SP too.

The higher SP prices has been mentioned as a pro Rio argument, but in SP you will find girls in all price categories. The places mentioned on this board however tends to be the higher priced ones.

I think the Rio GPs are more accustomed to the international traveller and monger. The SP girls are mostly used to Brazillian guys. So if you don't look like a typical Brazillain, you will be treated like royalty by the SP girls. The Rio girls will only try to squeeze more money out of you.

If you are looking for the highest level of girls, Rio can simply not compete with SP.

My two cents.
GK

BTW, Anyone in SP last two weeks of April? I will be there and would like to meet anyone interested in continuing this discussion or just for a drink.

Wandering Fool
03-25-07, 23:48
This is a really great discussion on the good and bad points of each city. Thanks again everyone!

I may end up in SP at this point.

Does anyone know where Sampa Guide or someone like him can be contacted? I want a local wingman for this trip with a car preferably. I want to meet non pros as well and have a translator nearby to help me with my basic Portuguese as well as help with introductions. I emailed Sampa Guide but it was returned.

Bubba Boy
03-26-07, 01:57
I can't get where Sampa is on average the same price as Rio. If you compare the top end places in Sampa compared to the Top end places in Rio, the sampa places are 2 or 3 times as expensive. The overwhelming majority of Tourists go to the top end places and hence will pay considerably more in Sampa.

The places in Sampa where you pay R200, would be considered second tier places. Second tier places in Rio would be maybe R100-R150 max. Only experienced mongers would go to second tier places, a minority I would think.

When you get to the cheap and nasty places in Centro the prices are similar in both cities.

Genghis Khan
03-26-07, 07:09
I can't get where Sampa is on average the same price as Rio. If you compare the top end places in Sampa compared to the Top end places in Rio, the sampa places are 2 or 3 times as expensive. The overwhelming majority of Tourists go to the top end places and hence will pay considerably more in Sampa.

The places in Sampa where you pay R200, would be considered second tier places. Second tier places in Rio would be maybe R100-R150 max. Only experienced mongers would go to second tier places, a minority I would think.

When you get to the cheap and nasty places in Centro the prices are similar in both cities.

Bubba,

First you compare the average prices and then you try to prove that point by comparing the top places. That is two very different comparisons.

I think you are wrong about the average price level. I don't think SP is more expensive on average. The Rio chicas are getting paid by the western tourists while the SP sisters mostly have Brazillian customers.

What places in Rio do you think of as top tier? It must be Barbarella, Centaurus, 4x4, Help, Cancun, Solarium, Monte Carlo, L'uomo and maye a couple of others. In SP these places would not be top tier. They are not on the same level as W.E., Cafe Foto, Bahamas, Garden Club, Bomboa, Cafe Millennium, Akaza, Cafe Gaugin, Francebel and The Palms. If you go to places like Kilt, My Love, Vagao Palace and Love Story, we are more on the same tier as the Rio top places and I don't think the prices in these places are much higher than the top tier in Rio. If you browse through gpguia and look at all the places not reported on here and their prices - you will find most prices are at Rio level.

When I "rate" a club top tier or not, I take more into consideration than just the quality of the girls. Where in Rio would you find a club with localities like Cafe Foto, Bahamas or W.E.? The owners have to cover the cost of such a place and that is where the extra money goes (entrance fees, room rentals, drinks, food, exit fees etc.) and I don't think it is fair to calculate that into the girls prices. A well known strategy for not having to pay for room rentals and exit feeds are to go to the club once and gather phone numbers - then call the girls you like later. The prices you pay is all about how you play the game.

You are probably right about the price difference for the top places, but it is in my opinion not fair to compare the top places in Rio to the top places in SP. They are so different and the top SP places are a couple of leves above the top places in Rio.

The culture in Brazil is very different than in the western world. A lot of the really beautiful and sometimes famous girls you wee on TV and in magazines are avilable for a price if you have the right contacts. These girls are of course very expensive, but most of the contacts that can provide these girls are based in SP. This is as far as I know something Rio can't even offer.

I can come up with three points where Rio is better than SP:

If you like the terma experience, there are not more than a couple of termas in SP and they are not in the same class as the Rio termas. In SP they have some nice clinicas, but that is not the same thing as a terma.

The Rio mongering spots are located more in clusters. You don't have to travel very far from one place to the next.

Rio is a much more beautiful city and have more tourist attractions. SP on the other hand has got more cultural activities to offer.

GK

BTW, The Rio restaurants have gotten an undesrerved bad reputation. There are a whole lot more restaurants to choose from in SP, but the very top end restaurants in Rio are just as good as the best in SP. I will post a restaurant guide for Rio (like I did with SP) when I get the chance. PM me if any of you would like some recomendations.

Lossapenny
03-26-07, 17:21
Almotu

I agree that the choice of the 'right' location is important in Sao Paulo. This city is HUGE. I also stayed a few times at the Mercures in Moema and had average taxi expenses of +/- 150 reals each night (usually I began with Cafe Gauguin in Brooklin, then Bomboa in Pinheiros, then some regular bar in Itaim or V.Olimpia, then Love Story in Centro, and then back to Moema at dawn). It wasn't a problem when the real was at 3.5 or 4, but now it's VERY different. Moema is definitely too far.

Anyway if your favorite 'action' is around N Pestana and Augusta, then the best option is IMO the former Mercure Centro on rua Araujo (where Love Story is located).

It's now managed by the Atlantica chain and named Comfort Hotel Downtown.

Atlantica Hotels website (www.atlanticahotels.com.br/atlantica/hoteis/busca.asp?NumFuncionalidade=17&busca=ok&Cidade=São%20Paulo).On my trip in Sao Paulo, I always stay at Quality Jardins where locate at Alameda Compinas / Alameda Santos; do you guys have any idea if there's any MP is close to the area and/or within walking distance? BTW, is there any SP could understand English for escort to my hotel? Appreciate very much for your comments?

Bubba Boy
03-26-07, 23:13
I agree with pretty much everything you said GK, I think we are debating small points rather than the overall picture. In a nutshell it is hard to compare prices between Rio and Sampa.

My definition of a top end place in Rio is the terma scene. Yes the facilities would not rate them Tier 1 in Sampa, but the woman there would be very much the top tier and would more than compare to their counterparts in Rio. The facilities in Rio, as you rightly stated, just don't compare with Sampa. The big clubs in Sampa have fantastic facilities. Rio facilities kind of suck, more your down and dirty type stuff. I think the woman in the top end termas in Rio are pound for pound as hot as the girls in the better Sampa clubs. Yes, the clubs need to charge for the fantastic facilities in Sampa, but I choose to bang a hot babe in a down and dirty Rio T, don't really need to spend R150 entrance and R100 for a room, I can get in and out of a Rio T for that with everything, including banging one of Rio's finest.

My point about the average price is reasoned as follows. Your average tourist will hit the top end places in Sampa and Rio. Ie in Rio the termas are probably the average price and in Sampa Bahamas would be an average price that you average tourist would pay. Yes there are cheaper places in both cities, but your average tourist stopping by for a few days or a week will probably hit these places on average. The average tourist would spend a lot more on average than your average local. Yes I know some locals in Rio and Sampa have a shitload of cash, but they are a very small minority.

One point I can't by is that your average tourist in Rio will not spend less than your average tourist in Sampa, on a per bang basis.

Genghis Khan
03-27-07, 10:50
Agreed.

GK

Sui Generis
03-27-07, 12:53
Akaza, in Moema, will reopen this weekend with a new management (with the ex promoters of the Club Vogue) and a new «vocation» (Privê during the day time, swing during the night).

As I wrote in the gp guia: this is a good thing because I will be able to entertain myself there during the daytime and, to recover, take a meal at the chinese restaurant just across the street!

Jardim de Lotus

http://www.guiadasemana.com.br/detail.asp?ID=2&cd_place=351

Sui Generis
03-27-07, 13:01
Good! Now that the quarrel Rio/Sampa is - seemingly - settled, I'd like to bring it to a new ground (literally speaking!)

It seems that the vast majority of the Sampa aficionados prefer Jardim over Momea. Why ist it so?

I'll come back later today (or tomorrow) with an answer. I have no time right now because I'm on my way to meet a new brazilian (so they say!) escort working for Satin Dreamz in Montreal. 5'10, 25 years old...I'm very curious. The «Brazilian buster» is on a new mission....I'll post my review on the Montreal section of the ISGF

Genghis Khan
03-27-07, 13:19
SG,

Where is Akaza located?

GK

Sui Generis
03-27-07, 13:41
Akaza is located on 83 Alameda dos Pamaris

It's very close to the Shopping Ibirapuera. In fact you can go there by driving (or walking) on Ibirapuera (going South) and it's the first street after the Shopping Ibirapuera: th name of the street is Av. Imarés. You turn left (going East) on Av. Imarés and you drive until Alameda dos Pamaris (it's just a few feet from the main street). The street is quiet.

They have a web site: www.akaza.com.br

I was a guess in that club in November because my friends of the guia had a party there (for the launching of a GP website). The premisses are A-1!Just too bad I recieved a free pass for the next visit...I don't know if it will be honored by the new owners.

You can read my report on this forum (with Renata). I also wrote a report in Portuguese for the guia (my nick is Xana-town). My nick is a pun : Xana-Town sounds like Chinatown. I'm not Chinese (I'm French Canadian!). Tabarnak!

Almotu
03-27-07, 14:43
I don't believe there is a massagem close to the Quality. BTW, do they have wireless internet in the rooms now? How do you normally book the room, via the Atlantica website? How much per night?

Back to the story, I believe if you dig deep into the Sao Paulo thread, you might be able to find a list of prives that are located in the Jardins area. They are basically mini *****houses but I have never gone to one. There are more knowledgeable ISG mongers that have more intel about them.

You can get on the Metro and get to any number of Clinicas. I have gone to Antares and American Center that way. My experiences at both places have been hit/miss. American Center is on the lower end. Pricing as of 2006 was $80R/hour at American Center and $120/hour at Antares.

http://massagem.clinicaantares.com.br/
http://www.amcenter.com.br/massagistasE.htm

Antares used to be mentioned a lot here, have the quality dropped so much that no one goes there anymore? I would be interested.

Hope this helps,
Almotu

Almotu
03-27-07, 15:02
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]Porra!

Many pernoite (the night long) with GP for $R150-$R200. I have a golden rule: never pay more than $R200.

Where oh, where are these GDPs? At Bomboa, you get quoted this price range for 60 mins then add in exit fee or room fee and entrance fee plus drinks and you are at $R450-500, no?

Trying the escorts when you are a short time player (10 - 20 days max) can be frustrating. Playing phone tag, leaving voice mails, bait & switch, no time to make out and get acquinted before the deed (a la Termas). I have had a couple of lucky breaks hooking up with Karen Roche and a girl who is out of the scene, Adylla Porto.

That being said, I will definitely continue to visit Sao Paulo especially for the change of pace. I think my experience would be 100% better if I have the inside track like you do.

Keep on posting!

Almotu

Sui Generis
03-27-07, 20:27
Trying the escorts when you are a short time player (10 - 20 days max) can be frustrating. Playing phone tag, leaving voice mails, bait & switch, no time to make out and get acquinted before the deed (a la Termas). I have had a couple of lucky breaks hooking up with Karen Roche and a girl who is out of the scene, Adylla Porto.

Keep on posting!

Almotu

I agree with you, It can be frustrating when you visit on a short time period.

I remember that I had once the hell of a trouble to get in touch with Elektra. Many emails send from my home here in Montreal, before leaving for Brasil. From my hotel room (which was in Pinheiros) I left several messages on her cell phone...she never called me back. Then, an afternoon, I was talking on the phone with my friend in Sampa (the moderator from the Brazilian forum) and he said to me that he was chatting with Elektra on msn. I said to him that I had trouble to get in touch with her. He offered to help me. Twenty second later the phone rang in my room. Voilà! It was her....I had to be introduced by someone she already knew...... frustrating, isn't it!!!!!!!


On another occasion, I went to a restaurant, in Moema, with my friend. It was my way to thank him for his help. After the dinner (Koi on Av Pavão) we went to the bakery Santa Labouré (corner of Rouxinol and Pintasilgo). He called a girl he knew (Letícia Lima). At first, she was a little bit reluctant to join us (because she was dressing casual and without her hair done) but finally she came to meet at the padaria Santa Labouré (her flat is just besides the Santa Labouré). I guess I was lucky again. I had the opportunity to talk with her and her friend Sarah Couto for more than two hours. No stress...like in a terma. I have to admit that my friend is very helpful!

On my last trip I didn't have TLN for $R150 or R$200. I diversified my activies: I was investigating privês.

I'll be glad to let you know when I will be in Sampa the next time. Probably in November (2007) or January/ February (2008)

Peace!

Prosal
03-27-07, 21:08
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]

Where oh, where are these GDPs?

Love Story.

I met in Love Story not only numerous freelancers but also lots of girls from Gaugin, from Romanza, from Bomboa, from Kilt, from Bahamas, from clinicas, ect, and never paid more than 150/200 reals a noite inteira (often till 2/3 pm). Some were even freebies.

Yet most girls go there FIRST to party, and THEN additionally to find a customer, so you have yourself to be in a party mood. Also be ready to sleep late, as it's a total morgue until after 3am, and then it rocks til 8am.

Almotu
03-27-07, 21:41
Prosal:
Never did get the opportunity to go to Love Story. 3am-5am is just too late for me to start the hunt. I am usually wiped out by then. Some suggested some sleep then wake up at midnight to go out which I would try if I had a wingman. And I even like the club music that they play but I am told you need to go there with someone that knows the doorman. It is not easy to gain access and once inside like any typical club it is jam-packed and dark. Props to you for hooking up nice, with my luck I'll pull some drunk girl that gets useless in bed.

Sui Generis: Which board does your friend moderate? It is always good to have someone native that can help you cut through the clutter. I will definitely keep your offer in mind. Maybe late Oct / early Nov. I can meet up with you for a portion of your trip so I can see how a pro does Sao Paulo. Any special prive finds are duly appreciated.

I am debating the lesser of two evils, Easter weekend in Sao Paulo or Rio. I am currently in Rio but wanted to see a sweetheart (from previous trips) in Sao Paulo but have commitments until next Tuesday. If I go to Sao Paulo Tuesday should I stick around into the Easter weekend or get my ass back to Rio pronto. I assume either city will have less talent because of the holdiay. Any thoughts?

Thanks guys,
Almotu

Prosal
03-27-07, 22:27
I am told you need to go there with someone that knows the doorman.

No problems to access into Love Story. There's a 50 reals entrance fee which gives you two drinks. You can also order a bottle at the door to avoid the entrance fee. You 'll be charged +/- 300 reals, depending if you're a regular or not. I pay 250 reals for a Red Label with two free jugs of 'refrigerantes'. A tip to the gerente (manager), who will then attribute you a table overlooking the dance-floor, is expected.

Prosal
03-27-07, 23:07
Bob

The best nights in Love Story are definitely Monday-Thursday.

Bubba Boy
03-28-07, 01:44
Bob, don't expect Love Story to be another Help. They are completely different. Love story is tiny in comparison and usually so crowed you cannot move, as crowded as 4x4 gets. I also find there are more girls not working in Love Story as opposed to Help where 99% of the girls are available and actively seeking someone. I couldn't say the exact percentage that don't work in Love Story, but it is a lot less than 99%, most girls seem to have the attitude that they are there with friends unless they find something interesting, the girls do not aggresively seek you out like they do in Help. I get the impression a lot of young Brazilian dudes go their to pick up a freeby, and hence can cramp your style

If you are going specifically to see Love Story, stay at the
Comfort Hotel Downtown, (formerly Mercure Downtown)
Rua Araújo, 141
(5511) 2137-4600
http://www.atlantica-hotels.com

They allowed guests when I was there, didn't charge extra although that can never be guaranteed. Good basic level of 4 star accomodation at R120 per night if booked in Brasil. If you book from the US they up the price, don't know why. It is located accross the street from Love Story and down about 100 yards. You can also walk to Kilt, and all the clubs next to them in about 5 -10 minutes. The area is dangerous compared to the rest of sampa, but way safer than walking home from Help at night. To get to Kilt, simply turn left as you leave the hotel and walk up that street until you pass Love Story on the right and continue until you can't go any further. You will see Kilt and all the associate clubs along the way. Maximum of 10 minute walk.

Prosal
03-28-07, 09:01
Yes i find that interesting that Sao Paulo doesn't happen on the weekend

LS is incredibly crowded Fri-Sat, I mean full packed wall-to-wall, which can be a bit annoying if you don't have a table. By the way, if you want to buy a bottle and be strategically seated in the VIP area, don't arrive too late, before 3am, and ask for the 'gerente' at the door. His name is Raoul. Personally I can't even imagine myself without a table in Love Story, especially on weekends.

Music is good every night (lots of carioca funk remixes).

Jose Lima
03-28-07, 23:23
Bob, don't expect Love Story to be another Help. They are completely different. Love story is tiny in comparison and usually so crowed you cannot move, as crowded as 4x4 gets. I also find there are more girls not working in Love Story as opposed to Help where 99% of the girls are available and actively seeking someone. I couldn't say the exact percentage that don't work in Love Story, but it is a lot less than 99%, most girls seem to have the attitude that they are there with friends unless they find something interesting, the girls do not aggresively seek you out like they do in Help. I get the impression a lot of young Brazilian dudes go their to pick up a freeby, and hence can cramp your style

If you are going specifically to see Love Story, stay at the
Comfort Hotel Downtown, (formerly Mercure Downtown)
Rua Araújo, 141
(5511) 2137-4600
http://www.atlantica-hotels.com

They allowed guests when I was there, didn't charge extra although that can never be guaranteed. Good basic level of 4 star accomodation at R120 per night if booked in Brasil. If you book from the US they up the price, don't know why. It is located accross the street from Love Story and down about 100 yards. You can also walk to Kilt, and all the clubs next to them in about 5 -10 minutes. The area is dangerous compared to the rest of sampa, but way safer than walking home from Help at night. To get to Kilt, simply turn left as you leave the hotel and walk up that street until you pass Love Story on the right and continue until you can't go any further. You will see Kilt and all the associate clubs along the way. Maximum of 10 minute walk.


I fully agree with this. Love story is not Help. I repeat is not Help. I was in LV last march and it was great. I scored a really hot girl for $R150 all night. But I was there in January '07 and it was totaly different. Its was packed wall to wall and the guy to girl ratio was strongly on the guy side. Lots of young brazilian kids trying to cop a feal on the local girls. We left withen 20 minutes. My buddy who lives down there for 10 years now says that it is no good anymore for anything.

SP on the weekend is pretty dead. Why dont you take a flight out to Goiana for the weekend. It would be better then staying in Sampa and much better then Rio for the weekend.

Prosal
03-29-07, 12:35
It seems that the vast majority of the Sampa aficionados prefer Jardim over Momea. Why ist it so?

My favorite bairro is Pinheiros. There's a very particular laidback atmosphere. I also like the fact that there's in Pinheiros many barzinhos, small restaurants, friendly live music venues and places to go dancing. It's strategically located, close to Centro, Jardins, Itaim (my second fav bairro) and V Olimpia, with an easy access to Morumbi/Brooklin by the Marginal Pinheiros.

Jardins is a very nice neighborhood, specially the area around Oscar Freire, Bela Cintra and H. Lobo, but it suffers IMO of a lack of nightlife.

I like a lot Moema, but it's definitely too remote.

Sui Generis
03-29-07, 14:23
I like Pinheiros too, especially where there's a lot of sebos (used book stores).

There's also a good privê there: Misterium (formerly known as Coniff American bar)

32 Rua Edson Dias, Near avenida Pedroso de Moraes, just facing FNAC (the bookstore)
Phone: 3813-0364

Unfortunately not too many good restaurants in that area (Consulado Mineiro?) Anyways, each time that I visit Sampa I spend a day in Pinheiros.

Prosal
03-29-07, 16:58
There's also a good privê there: Misterium (formerly known as Coniff American bar).On a cultural note, Conniff is where the *****house's scenes of the GREAT brasilian thriller 'O Invasor' (aka The Tresspasser) were shot.

" .... In this devastating thriller, businessmen Giba (Borges) and Ivan (Ricca) decide to do away with their partner by hiring hitman Anisio (Miklos). But once the job's done, Anisio proves impossible to get rid of. Straight out of the slums of Sao Paulo, Anisio's decided that these white-collar boys are going to be his meal ticket into the city's middle class, and it's not long before he's mixed up with Marina (Ximenes), the daughter of the man he whacked, to the horror of all concerned.

Moving through Sao Paulo's *****houses, bars, and clubs (the lengthy rave sequence is remarkable), Brant turns "The Trespasser" into a blistering political drama as Anisio tries to create his own gangster's paradise, working his way up from slum to suburbs with nothing more than his menacing presence.

Foregrounding the clash between the ghetto and the corruption of the "respectable" world, "The Trespasser" is a fiery Latin time bomb, with an underlying political message that's summed up in the blistering lyrics of gangsta rapper/actor Sabotage ....".

My personnal fav brasilian movie.

DrLudo
03-29-07, 20:53
Hello friendly visitors!

DrLudo will be back in Sampa between the 9th and the 24th of April. Be prepared for some "straight-to-the-point" reports!

And if anybody wants to share the fun, let me know: I will be happy to visit some hot places with some good company.

By the way, it seems that my favorite place, Eu & Elas, doesn't come out that often in the reports. Any particular reason? You guys should really pay this place a visit.

Have fun!

Dr Ludo

Lossapenny
03-29-07, 22:34
I don't believe there is a massagem close to the Quality. BTW, do they have wireless internet in the rooms now? How do you normally book the room, via the Atlantica website? How much per night?

Back to the story, I believe if you dig deep into the Sao Paulo thread, you might be able to find a list of prives that are located in the Jardins area. They are basically mini *****houses but I have never gone to one. There are more knowledgeable ISG mongers that have more intel about them.

You can get on the Metro and get to any number of Clinicas. I have gone to Antares and American Center that way. My experiences at both places have been hit/miss. American Center is on the lower end. Pricing as of 2006 was $80R/hour at American Center and $120/hour at Antares.

http://massagem.clinicaantares.com.br/
http://www.amcenter.com.br/massagistasE.htm

Antares used to be mentioned a lot here, have the quality dropped so much that no one goes there anymore? I would be interested.

Hope this helps,

AlmotuHi Almotu,

Thanks for the information and actually, I usually book the hotel through my local colleague and in 2006, the price is R$89/night but you've to add R$60 for internet connection (30days) but at 2007, price raise up to R$125/night but internet is free.

Tommy America
03-31-07, 16:54
I like Pinheiros too ... Unfortunately not too many good restaurants in that area (Consulado Mineiro?) Anyways, each time that I visit Sampa I spend a day in Pinheiros.One of the better churrascarias (to my taste) in Sao Paulo in in Pinheiros on Reboucas --- Vento Hergano (web site http://www.ventoharagano.com.br/ )

It is very close to Bomboa (short walk) and a short taxi ride to Misterium (former Coniff). In fact, the restaurant also runs a van service and will happily take you to either place after dinner for free (but you should tip the driver).

Prosal
04-03-07, 12:43
Consulado Mineiro

If you like 'comida tipica' from Minas one of the best option is IMO Dona Lucinha, Av Chibaras, in Moema. The dishes are simply delicious, especially the Feijao Tropeiro. :)

It's one of the paulista branch - the other is in Jardins - of a famous restaurant in Belo Horizonte.

Sui Generis
04-03-07, 14:37
Thanks Prosal,

I know that restaurant as well. I liked it but my mineira GF didn't.

I'm guess that I'm lucky because my GF, as I mentioned, is a mineira. When I travel to SP she always cook me different mineira dishes. I still remember her famous fruit salad with big chunks of açai.

We have all our «pêché mignon»....mine is CARNE (meat), churrasqueiro style . Still in Moema, I like the argentinian restaurant Villa Alvear, 408 rua Canário.

http://www.villaalvear.com.br/

The speciality of my GF is not churrasqueiro but CHUPASqueiro....I let you figure out what it means. LOL!

Genghis Khan
04-07-07, 16:09
Hello guys,
I am in need of a fluent Portuguese speaker on the ground in Sao Paulo to help me with a phone call. It's important that your accent isn't very obvious. If you are able to help me - send me a PM.
Sincerely,
GK

Mr Dogs Bollocks
04-15-07, 23:00
Hello to all Sampas Lovers,

I am Austrian and I really would appreciate to meet other foreigners in Sao Paulo to go out with. The centro of Sao Paulo seems to be less international than I thought. Nationality doesn't matter. I found out, while I was reading some of the postings in this thread, that there are many Americans here. Even Americans are welcome :-))) Any Pool Billiard players here for 8-Ball and 9-Ball?

I arrived yesterday in SP and checked into a hotel in the centro. It's very close to Av. Ipiranga and Love Story. Last night I visited Love Story my first time and I wanna go there Monday morning again. I stay at least until May 13th in Sao Paulo.

Just send a PM!


Mr Dogs Bollocks

Reggie Brazil
04-16-07, 13:51
Hello there!

My name is Reggie, I'm brazilian and have 28yo. I live in Jardins, near by Oscar Freire.

I realize there are many of you that are coming to visit the second largest city in the world (São Paulo). My exciting city, but may be a lil' put off by the language barrier, insecurity, etc.

I am a charming guy, extremely reliable and honest, and I would be very happy to be your assistant in this big city. If you need help finding your way around (bars, hotels, guidance) or get the right property (time share, rental, sublet, real state) just talk to me. I obviously speak good english and I also work as INTERPRETER, Portuguese Tutor, Translator.

I can unsure you that you could have a great time and discover a lot more of the city than you would do on your own.

I would be very happy if I could be useful to you out there, whoever you may be.

Send me an email specifying your needs.

The charges and fees varies depending upon your request. Sometimes they're free.

Thanks for you're time reading the add and don't think twice before contacting me.

Mr Dogs Bollocks
04-17-07, 18:40
Hello there!

My name is Reggie, I'm brazilian and have 28yo. I live in Jardins, near by Oscar Freire.

I realize there are many of you that are coming to visit the second largest city in the world (São Paulo). My exciting city, but may be a lil' put off by the language barrier, insecurity, etc.

I am a charming guy, extremely reliable and honest, and I would be very happy to be your assistant in this big city. If you need help finding your way around (bars, hotels, guidance) or get the right property (time share, rental, sublet, real state) just talk to me. I obviously speak good english and I also work as INTERPRETER, Portuguese Tutor, Translator.

I can unsure you that you could have a great time and discover a lot more of the city than you would do on your own.

I would be very happy if I could be useful to you out there, whoever you may be.

Send me an email specifying your needs.

The charges and fees varies depending upon your request. Sometimes they're free.

Thanks for you're time reading the add and don't think twice before contacting me.Hello Reggie Brazil,

I don't think, I can send you an e-mail or a PM. Normally you can do this things with PHP Buletin boards but the administrator of this board disabled it. This board is commercial and PM and e-mail seems to be available only for subscribers.

If you want, we can meet us today in the evening close to Rua Augusta for a little conversation. I have a concern and perhaps you can help me.

Just look at this map:

http://*******.com/2zrab8

I will be there between 7 and 8pm at Rua Avanhandava and sit outside at a place next to a coffeeshop. Enter from R. Martins Fontes. It's the second or third shop on your right hand side. (Beetween a restaurant and a coffeeshop.)

I am 6ft2 (1,89 m) tall, german looking and blond. My enemies say I got thin hair but this is not true. I will definitely drink a big bottle of beer, which is covered by a wrapper.

If you read this to late, just post a message for me. I will check tommorow again. You can also recommend a meeting place in your area.

I am looking forward to meeting you.

The Dog's Bollocks

Mr Dogs Bollocks
04-17-07, 19:06
Last night I went to the Kilt. I already was there at 9.00 pm, when they opened. I stayed there only 30 minutes and my consumption was two small cans of beer. The damage was 71 Reals. The cover charge was 45 Reals for the entrance and a can of beer, 20 Reals for the second beer and 6 Reals for services. 71 Reals seems to be extortionate to me, because some of the bars opposite charge only between 15 and 20 Reals for a beer. No extra services and no cover charge. The quantity and quality of the girls is the same.

The Kilt seems to be a place for business people. Almost all of the customers I saw, were pretty old or Japanese. Although they didn't have a show, the shows they usually have seem to be from the boring and old-fashioned Paris or Las Vegas type.

I can not recommend the Kilt. Go opposite!

DrLudo
04-18-07, 02:35
Dear mongers, dear friends and dear friends of yours,

I have been in Sao Paulo for a week now and have been definitely too busy (work wise) to fully "enjoy" the city until... tonight!

After a nice sushi dinner, I was hesitated between my favorite place (Eu&Elas) or Gabi Torres from ErosGuide.com.br.

The day has been too good at work and I have no idea whatsoever why the hell I decided to invite Gabi instead of visiting the best place in town (and maybe in the world in my opinion).

She arrived 45 min late and has absolutely NOTHING to do with the pictures on the web! I have just spent the last 40 min trying to find something that would tell me she actually was Gabi and, unfortunately, I came to the conlusion that she was her but... a few years older and, man!, some noticeable years!

Anyway, I paid $R250 for 1 and 1/2 hours in my hotel and I decided to send her home after the first game. Noisy, some good ideas but no implication, too false... in a few words: Not worth it.

I WILL try and get some better inspiration in the next few days and, of course, will let you know!

You guys have a good night.

Dr Ludo

Almotu
04-19-07, 00:17
Personally, I have been gun shy about using the GDP websites for booking. If a girl tickles my fancy, I try to search GPguia.net to see if she has any good reviews. I use the Google translation tools & though not perfect you can get the gist of the reporting. Even if the girl pass this test, I always have an ordeal getting them on the phone. It is usually right to voicemail. I prefer up close personal contact to determine if I want to session with a GDP.

Gabi's photos on the ErosGuide website had heavy photoshop retouching to them so I am not surprised that you were disappointed. A real shame because she looks GREAT. I, too have admired her looks from long distance. The GDPs (especially in Sao Paulo) get professional photo shoots done for these advertisements. And of course they lie about their age for sure.

Perusing the ErosGuide site, I like the photos that girls like Jully and Sayuri have up. They are all dolled up and professionally posed/photographed but there appear to be little to no photoshop retouching to them. You must also pay attention to the poses and clothing . . . the girls can certainly hide their flaws.

Member #4643
04-19-07, 01:46
My girl in Sao Paulo wants to go out to dinner and find a girl to bring back to our hotel. We have done this at Bahamas and a few other clubs. Its always fun (sadly, always expensive). She is kind of bi (she denies this, but this is always what she wants to do when I see her in Sao Paulo).

I have never been to Cafe Foto, and would like to go there before the viagra no longer is capable of doing its trick.

Would you old timers recommend Cafe Foto for arranging a threesome? If not there, where?

Tommy America
04-19-07, 16:48
Last night I went to the Kilt. I already was there at 9.00 pm, when they opened. I stayed there only 30 minutes and my consumption was two small cans of beer. The damage was 71 Reals. The cover charge was 45 Reals for the entrance and a can of beer, 20 Reals for the second beer and 6 Reals for services. 71 Reals seems to be extortionate to me, because some of the bars opposite charge only between 15 and 20 Reals for a beer. No extra services and no cover charge. The quantity and quality of the girls is the same.

The Kilt seems to be a place for business people. Almost all of the customers I saw, were pretty old or Japanese. Although they didn't have a show, the shows they usually have seem to be from the boring and old-fashioned Paris or Las Vegas type.

I can not recommend the Kilt. Go opposite!I have been to Kilt many times over the years and have always had a good time. The difference may be that I never show up before 11:00PM as most of the girls do not start arriving in volume until then.

Mr Dogs Bollocks
04-20-07, 14:59
I have been to Kilt many times over the years and have always had a good time. The difference may be that I never show up before 11:00PM as most of the girls do not start arriving in volume until then.It was only my first impression but it's probably a nice club. I felt a little bit ripped-off, but that's not so different compared to other clubs when you get there first time. I am sure they treat regular customers very well.

Jose Lima
04-21-07, 15:30
My girl in Sao Paulo wants to go out to dinner and find a girl to bring back to our hotel. We have done this at Bahamas and a few other clubs. Its always fun (sadly, always expensive). She is kind of bi (she denies this, but this is always what she wants to do when I see her in Sao Paulo).

I have never been to Cafe Foto, and would like to go there before the viagra no longer is capable of doing its trick.

Would you old timers recommend Cafe Foto for arranging a threesome? If not there, where?

The quality and price of Cafe foto and bahamas are the same. The girls in Cafe Foto will be more classy looking with dressses but its dark and you dont know what under those clothes. At least at Bahamas they wear sexy clothing and they have a sauna. Cafe foto is just OK. My Dad dragged me in there once and the only reason I went was becasue he paid my entrance. Its very how can I say "Snobby". But as for the threesome I would rather go with a Bahamas girl they just look like brickhouses.

Mr Tee
04-22-07, 12:23
Hi,

I'll be in Sao Paulo next Saturday and Sunday nights at least. Maybe longer. Anyone around for a beer or 10? I'm English mid-thirties.

Don't speak Portuguese and not financially constrained too much so from what I've heard Bahamas, Cafe Photo and Bomboa's may be my best bets. But anyone know other places with quality at the moment?

Hotel advice also welcome. Gran Melia Mofarrej has been recommended. Any others of similar quality? Sorry, if I seem a little lazy but this trip has been arranged at short notice so I havn't had time to do much research.

Regards,

Mr Tee

Member #4643
04-22-07, 16:37
Did a test drive on a girl who was written up on GPIGUIA as very good. She wasn't my first choice, but she did answer the telephone at 1:30 am. The one guy who didn’t give her a positive review loved her service, but not her looks (he gave her a neutral review).

Her photos can be seen at MClass.com.br

In reality, her face and body look the same, but she has orthodenture (never a turn on for me) and her augmentation mammoplasty is not a real good one (a bit lumpy). She is not a real tight body.

So, while her photo suggests a real "avião", she is not. On the other hand, she is not displeasing either. Probably a solid 7 for most guys.

In contrast, she is a 10 on performance. I got a great BBBJ, she did any position I wanted laughed a giggled, anal was on the menu, she interrupted sex to ask me for more oral (she really got into the sex), etc. Pure enthusiasm. When I had trouble finishing the deed, since she was my fourth girl in less than 24 hours, she insisted that I would not sleep well unless I came. She decided to give me vigorous and long BBBJ until I was finished.

As she wiped her mouth, she said to me, "wasn't this worthwhile waiting for"? I couldn't have agreed more.

GPGUIA gives her cost as 200; she charged me 250 and I did not negotiate. I would certainly repeat. Recomendo.

Mangera
04-22-07, 19:26
I am glad to see you made it back to Brasil. This is a long way from Santo Domingo my friend.

I will be in Brasil for the entire month of June, hopefully you will be there. Thanks for the report on this GPguia garota.

Genghis Khan
04-23-07, 15:48
I am currently in Sao Paulo - if anyone would like to meet for a drink at a club - please let me know.

GK

Mr Dogs Bollocks
04-23-07, 15:59
Hi,

I'll be in Sao Paulo next Saturday and Sunday nights at least. Maybe longer. Anyone around for a beer or 10? I'm English mid-thirties.

Don't speak Portuguese and not financially constrained too much so from what I've heard Bahamas, Cafe Photo and Bomboa's may be my best bets. But anyone know other places with quality at the moment?

Hotel advice also welcome. Gran Melia Mofarrej has been recommended. Any others of similar quality? Sorry, if I seem a little lazy but this trip has been arranged at short notice so I havn't had time to do much research.

Regards,

Mr TeeOi, tudo bem?

There is a nice Hotel in the centro, which is well located, not to expensive and very clean called Joamar Hotel. One Night is 42 R and includes Breakfast.

http://www.hoteljoamar.com.br/i_index.htm
Metro station: Republica

Here's the map:
http://*******.com/34hhob

In my area, there are many of the places, which were often mentioned in this forum, like the famous "Love Story" which is a kind of club or disco, The Kilt, Big Ben etc. are within walking distance. Although at night, I would highly recommend you to take a taxi.

On Saturday I will go to Love Story for sure. They open at 1.00 o'clock until 9 or 10 o'clock. The hookers come in normally after work, between 3 and 6 o'clock. Yesterday, I went there after sunrise. It's only three minutes away but at this time of the day it is often not so easy to get a taxi quickly. Everybody recommends not to walk late at night.

I am Austrian and 40 y.o. and if you want we can have a beer or two or three. Just let me know when you arrive on Saturday, and if you are going to check into the hotel, I mentioned above. I don't speak Portuguese either and absolutely no one here speaks English let alone German. Unfortunately there are no billiards places around.

The Dog's Bollocks

Mr Dogs Bollocks
04-23-07, 16:07
I am currently in Sao Paulo - if anyone would like to meet for a drink at a club - please let me know.

GKHello Genghis Khan,

In which area are you? I am in the Centro. Just suggest a meeting place, if you want.

The DB

Dollar Bill
04-23-07, 17:18
I am currently in Sao Paulo - if anyone would like to meet for a drink at a club - please let me know.

GK

Hi Genghis,

I sure I speak for all of those on this board that we are looking forward to reading your adventures in SP. You reports have always made us envious of your travels!!!

Take care, have fun, stay safe, and warm up those typing fingers (please)!!!!

$Bill

Genghis Khan
04-23-07, 21:34
If you would like to join me to W.E. - Rua Peixoto Gomide 263, Consolacao at around 21:30 - I can get you in for free.

GK

Almotu
04-23-07, 23:50
db,

sounds interestingly inexpensive. are there safes in the rooms? how about high speed internet access? cyber cafe in the hotel or nearby?

i won't be able to get to sao paulo until later in the year but this info will come in handy. btw, i tried to pm you about this but you are not accepting?

thanks,
almotu

Mr Dogs Bollocks
04-24-07, 14:15
db,

sounds interestingly inexpensive. are there safes in the rooms? how about high speed internet access? cyber cafe in the hotel or nearby?

i won't be able to get to sao paulo until later in the year but this info will come in handy. btw, i tried to pm you about this but you are not accepting?

thanks,

almotuhello almotu,

there are several cyber cafes just 2 minutes away. don't worry.

i think pm was disabled by the administrator and is only available for subscribers.

unfortunately there are no safes in the room. there is a wardrobe but it cannot be padlocked. i have a trolley (hard-top case) which i can padlock. this is not the most perfect protection but it is enough to my mind. if you can, get yourself a padlock like this:
http://*******.com/39jvkq

there is one thing you should know about this area. it is pretty dangerous at night and has a bad reputation. it's really ok during the daytime. at night you should take a cab even for short distances.

Mr Dogs Bollocks
04-24-07, 19:21
Now, I've been here in Sampas for about 10 days and almost every day I went to Big Ben at Rua Augusta. The clubs in this area are quite OK but there are never many visitors and the only thing you can do is paying drinks for a conversation with a girl or shag her. There is actually nothing wrong with that but can anyone recommend a club like they have in Bangkok's Patpong Road or in Pattaya or like on the Phillippines in the early 90ies. I mean I would like to see people performing sex on stage and crowds who watch it.

Are there swinger clubs which can be recommended?

Q: What are clinicas? Are clinicas something like an SM-Studio? Can someone recommend bizarre clinicas or girls?

@GK

If your last posting is also addressed to me, I would really like to meet you. If yes, wouldn't it be possible to meet already in the afternoon? It doesn't have to be on Saturday but it's up to you. I would prefer a quite place without girls or a billiard hall, in case you are a pool player.

Genghis Khan
04-26-07, 15:21
@GK
If your last posting is also addressed to me, I would really like to meet you. If yes, wouldn't it be possible to meet already in the afternoon? It doesn't have to be on Saturday but it's up to you. I would prefer a quite place without girls or a billiard hall, in case you are a pool player.

I am busy all afternoons and I will not be in Sampa on Saturday. In fact the last night will be tonight.

GK

Mr Dogs Bollocks
04-26-07, 23:42
I am busy all afternoons and I will not be in Sampa until Saturday. In fact the last night will be tonight.

GKI came back from Santos today and was very busy. I just before lost my brandnew 4 GB USB-Stick. At the moment I must change all my passwords. The problem is that I use Portable Apps so the new owner can read my e-mails from the last three years, order confirmations and has all my bookmarks too. It is very advantageous to use Portable Apps, because you sit in an internet cafe like on your own PC at home. Unfortunately some things were not password-protected and now it doesn't leave my mind.

Sorry GK, but I hope we can meet when you are back.

BTW: I had a great girl in Santos. She's a blond 19 y.o. porn actress. I wanna go there next week again.


If you don't mind, we can meet here next time. It is really nice and there are many good restaurants too.

See the map
http://*******.com/2zrab8

Rua Avanhandava and sit outside at a place next to a coffeeshop. Enter from R. Martins Fontes. It's the second shop on your right hand side. (Beetween a restaurant and a coffeeshop.)

Almotu
04-27-07, 06:38
I for one, am looking forward to seeing any photos that you may have taken of your Santos blonde. What is her stage name for porn films? How and where did you meet her?

Give us a nice report on her and Santos' beaches when you get a chance.

Mr Dogs Bollocks
04-27-07, 21:07
I for one, am looking forward to seeing any photos that you may have taken of your Santos blonde. What is her stage name for porn films? How and where did you meet her?

Give us a nice report on her and Santos' beaches when you get a chance.Oi,

I think this must be one of the first reports about Santos here in this forum.

There's a street named Ave Feijo (see map) and in the middle of the street, there is a hotel named Feijo. Here I met the 19 year old blonde. The prices are unbelievable: 30 min are 30 Real and 1 hour is 50 Real. I forgot her name but she said that she did 4 porn movies and was called Nicole in the movies. She said some of theme are called Sexdreams but on the internet I only found a website called sexdreams. She also said that she did two movies in Campinas, which are very hard and normally come from Europe. (Don't want to tell the gory details :-)

The girl was really nice. At the motel she asked me for more money and I said that this was not OK. Then she offered me to have sex with her only 30 minutes and I agreed. Nevertheless we did it approximately one hour and she was absolutely posessed by anal sex. After I finished first time, we took a shower. After she had dried her with a towel, she bend forward again and showed me her ass. Of course she couldn't know that I am Austrian who was powered by Cialis® and so I shagged her deep into her ass again. I am sure she was very impressed. That's the End of the story but the details I always keep for myself.

There's a motel named Ping Pong Motel [pronounce: Pinge Ponge] at Rua Constituiçao. You pay per hour but I normally always booked one day which is 100 Real. It is clean, has mirrors on the ceiling, porn movies, a menu and a phone. So you can order drinks for a normal price, which come through a hatch. Sounds a little bit like Hotel California, doesn't it? - Breakfast is included.

There are many hookers at Ave Feijo and around the corner at Joao Pessoa there is a nightclub named Nitfas or something like that. 2 beers is 20 Real although someone had told me before, it should be only 10 Reals. I drank two beers and talked to a very nice girl. Unlke Sampas she didn't ask for a drink. Anyway, after I left, because I do not really like nightclubs. They are a wate of time and a waste of money to my mind.
I was told there are other areas in Santos called Sao Vincente and Gonzaga, where good girls are to find.

Santos has many beaches as much as I know. Last time I went there was in 1995 and 1996. The beaches were not very clean.

Fazit:
The girl are as beautiful as in the Sao Paulo Nightclubs, friendlier and cost a fifth.

The problem in Santos are:

1: The drugs. I remember reports from the 90s, which said that Santos is not only the biggest port for coffee but also for cocaine and crack. I saw some girls on drugs but I never saw girls on drugs here in the clubs of the Rua augusta area.
2: Santos is very run-down and at night as dodgy as Praça da Republica.
3: There is not much to do during daytime.
4: I was in 1995 on a Santos beach and this one was really dirty. I hope they look nicer now.

I wanna go there next week again. If someone wants to join, just ask me but I cannot promise, because I want to meet someone here in Sampas and still don't know which day.

How to get to Santos:

Take the North/South Metro. The Metro terminates at Jabaquara in the South of Sao Paulo. From there you take a bus to Santos. It is 75 km (about 45 miles) away and takes one hour. The fare is 14 Reals. The bus terminal is attached to the Metro station. Everything is clean and safe. Don't worry.

Here's the map from the area I was. Zoom out to find the others.

http://*******.com/2nogcv

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Member #4156
04-29-07, 18:13
Hi all,

What's it like on the weekends in Sampa? I'm going to be in Rio from june-1 til july-1 and the only time I'll have to myself is on the weekends. I'd like to finally see what SP is like but I heard Fri-Sun are pretty much dead. Is this true?

Mr Dogs Bollocks
04-30-07, 13:24
Hi all,

What's it like on the weekends in Sampa? I'm going to be in Rio from june-1 til july-1 and the only time I'll have to myself is on the weekends. I'd like to finally see what SP is like but I heard Fri-Sun are pretty much dead. Is this true?Last weekend was my third weekend in Sampa. My area is Praça da Republica and from Saturday evening until Monday morning, there are only a few lanchonettes, where you can go. If possible for you, you should avoid to go to São Paulo on a weekend. It is really boring, especially on a sunday.

Genghis Khan
04-30-07, 15:32
After a year of fighting cancer with surgeries and chemo therapy I am now totally recovered and decided to celebrate this with a ten day trip to my favourite hunting ground Sao Paulo. I had really looked forward to go with Nickster53 but unfortunately he had to cancel his trip so I was ready to go on my own.

I landed at Guarulhos airport at 06:20 on a Wednesday. I was really tired after a 13 hour flight and two hours in line at the immigration control. I picked up my luggage, exchanged some money and went outside the terminal for a taxi. Fortunately there was no taxi line. On this trip I had chosen to treat myself to a better hotel than on my previous trips and made a reservation at the Gran Estanplaza in Berrini. The taxi ride from Guarulhos to the hotel is a nightmare though and I arrived at the hotel at around 10:00.

I think the location of the hotel is quite good. Shopping D & D and Shopping Morumbi is quite near. Shopping D & D is in fact within walking distance. Café Gauguin was next door to the hotel and Moema, Vila Olimpia and Itaim are only a short taxi ride away with its many restaurants and bars. The hotel is both new and stylish. All the rooms have spacious balconies. The staff was very friendly and service minded both to me and the girls and no extra fees were added to the hotel bill for bringing the girls to the room. The hotel advertises that the suites have bathrooms with jacuzzis too but the jacuzzi was a joke. It was so small only a child would fit into it. On average though the facilities and service of the hotel is on par with the best I have tried before.
http://www.estanplaza.com.br

I had made it clear when making the reservation that I would need an early check in but the hotel had not taken any notice to this, so when I arrived my room was not ready yet. My plan was to send some clothes for laundry, shower and get some sleep before having lunch and going to The Palms for a massage and some fun. Since the hotel needed about an hour to clean the room before I could check in, the planned sleep would not happen though.

To be as efficient with my time as possible I chose to have lunch at a French restaurant close by at the Grand Hyatt Hotel. The restaurant is called Eau and was voted best French restaurant in Sao Paulo by the magazine Veja Sao Paulo last year. To my disappointment the a la carte menu on their website was not available for lunch. For lunch they only offer a fixed price three course menu with only a few choices available. I chose the tuna as a starter and slightly grilled beef tartar as the main course with a bottle of white wine. Dessert was a small piece of chocolate cake. This restaurant offers good food in a comfortable and relaxed setting but to me it was a disappointment that the a la carte menu was not on offer. The price was R$160 for the three course menu.
http://www.eau.com.br

After the lunch, a taxi took me back to my hotel where I called The Palms to make a reservation with Marcy. Marcy is an old acquaintance of mine from W, Jardim America and W.E. where she used the name Najla. She has also been a playboy playmate back in 2005 and a feature at the website dreamcam. Marcy is fluent in English. The picture of her on The Palms website doesn’t do her justice. Making a reservation at The Palms is no big issue since they have people available who speak English. So when I asked for Marcy, they told me that I could have an appointment in one hour. They warned me though that if I were more than 10 minutes late they would cancel the reservation. I put my razor and some shaving cream in my bag and went down to the lobby asking for a taxi. The taxi ride to The Palms was shorter than anticipated so I arrived quite early even though the taxi driver had some trouble finding the location. So when I arrived I had to wait a while in their waiting room. This gave me a chance to look thoroughly through their book. This place has got a lot of very good looking women on offer. The receptionist told me that the price for one hour of massage was R$170 and then she handed me a note. The note said in both Portuguese and English that The Palms only offered plain massage and no other services would be available to the clients. The receptionist winked her eye at me, smiled and took the note back. Marcy told me later that this is the way the owners avoid doing anything illegal. The Palms officially only offers massage and that is the only money the owners get. What then goes on in the room is private and the money exchanged for this goes directly to the girl. If however a girl is a bit sloppy when she cleans the room and forgets to remove a condom, this could lead to big trouble for the owners. The girl will be fined R$500 if something like that happens.

After the receptionist had offered me a beer and I had looked through their book Marcy appeared and showed me to the room we would use. She obviously didn’t recognize me, so I asked her if she didn’t remember me. She looked puzzled for a moment and then told me that she did remember me. To prove this she told me about our two previous encounters. What happened then in the room was disappointing. The staff didn’t inform me or Marcy that she had another reservation and that an extension on my part would not be possible.

After we in turn had taken a shower each, I asked her to do me a favour. I always ask my first girl on every trip to do this favour for me. I like to have my balls shaved. I don’t like to do it myself so I ask the first girl to do it and they usually think it is fun. Marcy had no problems doing it either. What turned out to be a problem though was that when she had finished there was no time left for anything else and when we called the reception to get an extension on our time, it wasn’t possible because she had another reservation. Marcy gave me her phone number though and told me to call her later in the evening and she would come to my hotel and stay the night for R$300. I dressed and went out to the waiting taxi R$170 and some pubic hair short of what I had when I entered.
http://www.thepalms.com.br
http://playboy.abril.com.br/galeriast/galeria_18587_0.shtml
http://www.dreamcam.com.br/MarciaCavalcanti

When I got back to the hotel I showered, changed my clothes and got ready for my dinner at the restaurant D.O.M. They require a reservation one week in advance, so that was taken care of prior to leaving my country. Restaurant D.O.M. is generally considered as the best restaurant in South America and the chef Alex Atalla (who used to work as a DJ before becoming a full time chef) has got his own show on TV. I have been to this restaurant twice before and enjoyed it immensely.

The taxi ride from Berrini to the restaurant in Jardins was more time consuming than I had expected and I was running late. They called me while I was on my way though to make sure I was coming. When I arrived I was the first guest in the restaurant – just the way I like it. In addition to the a la carte menu, the menu now also offered two different tasting menus – one with four courses and one with eight courses. I chose the latter accompanied by glasses of wine chosen by the restaurants sommelier. The meal was a little disappointing though compared to my other experiences at this restaurant and I promised myself that the next time I was here, I would chose from the a la carte menu. The bill was R$600 for one caipirinha, eight glasses of wine and the eight course tasting menu.
http://www.restaurantedom.com.br

My mind was set on one of two options now. I could either call Marcy and take her up on her offer for R$300 for the night or I could go to Garden Club as originally planned. I decided that Wednesday is a pretty good night at the clubs and I could always call Marcy and arrange a date with her during the weekend or on Monday. So I asked the taxi driver to take me to Garden Club.

Garden Club is the new name of the old W on Rua Alvorada 550, Vila Olimpia. The old owner Beto is back and the place is run by a former manager from Donna Café and Jardim America called Jorge. The magazine Sexy Premium had an article in December about Garden Club which has been renovated. The club now features a stage and has strip shows at irregular intervals during the evening. The name is also changed from W to Garden Club. The second floor has been opened and has a long corridor of rooms with showers available to the clients. Previously W only had two V.I.P. rooms available to clients who didn’t want to take the girls out.
When I arrived at Garden Club it was almost 22:00. The ideal time to arrive is around 21:00. The place was filled with people – almost as many clients as girls. The girls were more of the girl-next-door type than at Café Foto or W.E and they dress more towards that style too. That doesn’t have to be a bad thing though. The most important thing is that you can get an impression of what she might look like without the clothes on and if her attitude and personality is “a match”.

I was welcomed by the hostess who insisted on taking me on a tour around the premises although I told her that I had been to W many times in the past. I asked if Beto was present and she told me that she would tell him that I had asked for him. After she had given me the tour, she followed me downstairs to the club area and showed me to a table by the entrance where I could follow all the comings and goings of the girls from either outside or the rooms upstairs.

I saw two girls that appealed to me. Both were blondes. One wore a red loose red dress which kind of clung to her body when she walked and showed off her great rear end. The other one wore a short pink dress and had legs that ran forever. The latter girl was slimmer with less curves but with a beautiful face. She was occupied with another client though. The girl in the red dress was not occupied.

My first choice would have been the girl in the pink dress. Since she was occupied, I tried to get the attention of the girl in the red dress. She seemed a little occupied talking to some of the other girls though. While I was waiting two girls suddenly sat down at my table and started chatting. I didn’t like any of them, so I quickly sent them away. The hostess came over and told me that Beto had left the club for the night.

I ordered a caipirinha and watched the strip show which started on stage. The girl in the pink dress and her friend were still occupied with two clients. While I patiently waited for one of my two favourites to become available, several girls came over and introduced themselves. Some sat down and chatted a bit with me too. After a while the two male clients with the girl in the pink dress and her friend left Garden Club and I immediately asked one of the waiters to call the girl in the pink dress over to my table. She kissed me on each chin and introduced herself as Juliana with an incredible smile. Her long, curly, shiningly blonde hair was dancing around her head while she talked energetically. She told me that she was indeed a Gaucha as most of the girls present and I didn’t have to talk to her for long before realising that she was what I were looking for tonight. After about half an hour getting to know each other I asked her if she would join me to my hotel. She accepted and we went outside to the taxi after I had taken care of the bill. Juliana was R$1000 for all night.

In the hotel room she first wanted to have something to eat. I didn’t object to this and hoped she would return the favour with a grand performance in bed. After she had finished she wanted us to shower together which is always nice. We took turns washing each other before retiring to the bed. She liked my newly shaved balls and licked me but wouldn’t let me enter her mouth without a condom. I returned the oral pleasure and then we had sex first with her on top and then doggie style. She was a really wild chick. If you have read some of my previous reports you will know that I hardly ever pop without a BBBJ and this time was no exception. I really liked this girl though with her energetic, fun loving attitude and she was great in bed. No doubt about that. She told me that she had only been working at Garden Club for a week and that showed in her unprofessional, affectionate attitude. After a second round of sex we fell asleep.

The next morning she woke me up at around 08:00 and kissed me before telling me she had to go. She couldn’t find her panties though, so she had to leave in her really short dress with nothing beneath. Her private parts were easily visible when she walked down the corridor from my room to the elevator. She blushed when noticing that I had no problems getting an eyeful.
http://www.wclub.com.br (the name of the webpage has not changed after the name of the club changed)

I wonder how those panties ended up in my safe. Very strange……. ;)

GK

Sperto
04-30-07, 15:44
Great report!
Your mongering is on a totally different level than mine. I can't say I want to change place with you, but I truly enjoy your reports. I'm looking forward to Day 2.

Prosal
04-30-07, 16:21
Thanks for the Day 1 report GK.

I'm looking forward your report about Cafe Gauguin, which has always been a favorite of mine. It has been said that it went downhill, and I'd be interested to know if it's the truth or just rumors.

Genghis Khan
04-30-07, 17:37
Thanks for the Day 1 report GK.

I'm looking forward your report about Cafe Gauguin, which has always been a favorite of mine. It has been said that it went downhill, and I'd be interested to know if it's the truth or just rumors.

Sorry, I didn't go there.

GK

Carrib
05-01-07, 00:33
Once again a truly exceptional report, looking forward to the rest. I have a question re the Palms. Do you have to neg for extras or is the R170 all inclusive?

Looks like I need a trip to Sampa...the girls on the Palms site are stunning!!


Welcome back!!

Jose Lima
05-01-07, 00:41
Sorry, I didn't go there.

GK

I have read and heard of some baller stories in Sampa but that my friend takes the cake. That was a 6 Star day/night. Very nice report. My hat is off to you

Almotu
05-01-07, 01:46
Genghis,
I congratulate you on beating your cancer. It looks like you did not skip a beat and has returned to Sao Paulo with both guns blazing!

I had the pleasure of hanging out with the Nickster last August. Unfortunately I was also involved with Pasquale, the so-called 'expert guide to Sao Paulo'.

For your first day in Sao Paulo, you probably spent more than I spent in 5 days in Rio just a couple of weeks ago.

I really enjoy your reports . . . they are full of details and written with care. If I was a foodie, I could truly use your recommendations on restaurants.

But, without taking into account the cost of cabs and your upscale hotel room your tally for Day 1 was $R2,034 = $1,017 USD. I wish I didn't have to worry about money like you! and I would love to hang out with you one day in Sao Paulo . . . I'll let you put up the tab of course! (kidding) I would get a kick out of seeing how Donald Trump lives! How can you stand the b.s. exchange rate at $R2.00 to the dollar?

This being said, I feel that you owe it to yourself to "slum it" for just one day and see how the rest of us monger. I know you read this board why don't you try some of the other places recommended here that you never seem to have gone? For example,

Bomboa
Cafe Millenium
Clinica Kin
Clinica PHQ
Eu e Ela
Connection Club
American Show
Moulin Rouge
Ocean Club (Nestor Pestana)

I think you would not TOTALLY HATE it! Gosh, with all the money that you spent on Day 1 you sure had many "disappointments"! Your expectations are probably much higher than mine but I guarantee you - you can have a decent time at a fraction of the cost. $R1,000 for TLN with your Garden Club girl yet still no BBBJ?!

Voyajer1
05-01-07, 02:18
After a year of fighting cancer with surgeries and chemo therapy I am now totally recovered and decided to celebrate this with a ten day trip to my favourite hunting ground Sao Paulo. I had really looked forward to go with Nickster53 but unfortunately he had to cancel his trip so I was ready to go on my own.

I wonder how those panties ended up in my safe. Very strange……. ;)

GK
First, I have to congratulate you on your fast recovery from cancer; I know that had to be tough. Second, you just showed an old dog a new trick, I'm looking forward to using it ;). Third, straight up, YOU ARE THE MAN!!! My next trip is to the DR, but I can't wait till my next trip down there. Looking forward to your next post. Have fun...

Surferr3
05-01-07, 06:25
Glad to hear you kicked the cancer. Hope it stays away.

Wish I could have been there to help you celebrate!!!

Genghis Khan
05-01-07, 10:52
Once again a truly exceptional report, looking forward to the rest. I have a question re the Palms. Do you have to neg for extras or is the R170 all inclusive?

Looks like I need a trip to Sampa...the girls on the Palms site are stunning!!


Welcome back!!

Carrib,

I tried to explain in the report that the R$170 is for the massage. Sex is extra and has to be negotiated and paid directly to the girl. Since I didn't have any sex, it was only R$170 for me.

GK

Genghis Khan
05-01-07, 11:05
Genghis,
I congratulate you on beating your cancer. It looks like you did not skip a beat and has returned to Sao Paulo with both guns blazing!

I had the pleasure of hanging out with the Nickster last August. Unfortunately I was also involved with Pasquale, the so-called 'expert guide to Sao Paulo'.

For your first day in Sao Paulo, you probably spent more than I spent in 5 days in Rio just a couple of weeks ago.

I really enjoy your reports . . . they are full of details and written with care. If I was a foodie, I could truly use your recommendations on restaurants.

But, without taking into account the cost of cabs and your upscale hotel room your tally for Day 1 was $R2,034 = $1,017 USD. I wish I didn't have to worry about money like you! and I would love to hang out with you one day in Sao Paulo . . . I'll let you put up the tab of course! (kidding) I would get a kick out of seeing how Donald Trump lives! How can you stand the b.s. exchange rate at $R2.00 to the dollar?

This being said, I feel that you owe it to yourself to "slum it" for just one day and see how the rest of us monger. I know you read this board why don't you try some of the other places recommended here that you never seem to have gone? For example,

Bomboa
Cafe Millenium
Clinica Kin
Clinica PHQ
Eu e Ela
Connection Club
American Show
Moulin Rouge
Ocean Club (Nestor Pestana)

I think you would not TOTALLY HATE it! Gosh, with all the money that you spent on Day 1 you sure had many "disappointments"! Your expectations are probably much higher than mine but I guarantee you - you can have a decent time at a fraction of the cost. $R1,000 for TLN with your Garden Club girl yet still no BBBJ?!

Almotu,

I have tried many of the places on your list like Kilt, Connection, American Show, Moulin Rouge, Bomboa and Cafe Millenium before I found places like Bahamas, Cafe Foto, Garden Club and W.E. I didn't write reports though. These places can be good but two things bother me. The girls are too agressive (which really turns me off) and it is always really crowded. The crowd bothers me because I am really too picky about what girl I want. If I can't have the best looking girl in the house, I usually leave empty handed. In a crowded place the chance of getting to the best looker before anybody else is very slim. In a place like W.E. or Garden Club where they know me, I can just ask the manager for the girl I want and he will send her over to me. Most girls occupied will become available in these clubs because the clients are mostly brazilians and they rarely do TLN.

Secondly I did have a very good time with Juliana even though she didn't do BBBJ. I am sure I could have pushed the matter more firmly, but I liked her performance and I think being more persistant could have turned her into a negative experience. So I wouldn't say that she was a disappointment. The restaurant Eau was a disappointment (not because of the food - which was very good - but because of not offering what I wanted) and so was The Palms (but not Marcy who I know is a keeper and a good performer).

I have also edited my report because looking through my receipts again I realised that the bill for the restaurant D.O.M. was not the amount I put in the report. The actual amount was R$600 including a tip and not R$704 (which was the bill for another restaurant later on during the trip).

I am not an American so the exchange rate for the dollar is of no concern to me.

GK

Almotu
05-01-07, 15:57
You are one of the best contributors to this Sao Paulo thread, I hope you continue to give us all the blow by blow reporting.

Yes, I understand you approach concerning getting the "best looking piece in the joint". Personally I find that sometimes the best looking girls tend to be the laziest in the bedroom. They know they are hot so they don't try as hard to please. Of course there are exceptions but I prefer to find someone with great attitude.

For the hot girls at the Palms, how much do you normally pay for the "extras" during your massage?

Genghis Khan
05-01-07, 16:53
For the hot girls at the Palms, how much do you normally pay for the "extras" during your massage?

I don't know - this was my first time at The Palms. Starfe from this forum should probably be able to give you a better answer. I understand that he at least used to be a regular.


Yes, I understand you approach concerning getting the "best looking piece in the joint". Personally I find that sometimes the best looking girls tend to be the laziest in the bedroom. They know they are hot so they don't try as hard to please. Of course there are exceptions but I prefer to find someone with great attitude.

I agree the best looking girls tend to be the laziest in the bedroom. That is why the interview is so important. For me to leave with the girl she has to be the best looker, the attitude has to be good and her personality must be according to my taste. I am a hard guy to please. I rarely do repeats and I hardly ever pop. So I actually often left empty handed from the clubs you mentioned.

GK

Big In ATL
05-01-07, 20:51
Is anyone in Sampa next week?

I arrive on Tuesday and staying at the Gran EstanPlaza.

Euro100
05-01-07, 22:00
After a year of fighting cancer with surgeries and chemo therapy I am now totally recovered and decided to celebrate this with a ten day trip to my favourite hunting ground Sao Paulo.

Great to have you back posting, GK! Nothing put the important things more into perspective than wrestling with death.

euro

Genghis Khan
05-02-07, 14:51
After a long flight yesterday with almost no sleep, I slept late this morning and woke up to beautiful sunshine outside at around 11:00. My plan for today was first to have lunch at the French restaurant Parigi, then to have an old acquaintance of mine visit me at my hotel room for some fun for a couple of hours, then dinner at the Italian restaurant Fasano before finally ending the evening at W.E. This was a Thursday and I didn’t want to miss the week’s best night at W.E. It was almost a year since I had been there. As you might have noticed I have changed my daily routine from my previous trips. Now I wanted both an afternoon session and an evening session with a garota.

I showered and shaved before going down to the reception where I asked for a taxi. Parigi is located in Itaim and only a short taxi ride from my hotel. When I arrived it was still fifteen minutes until it would open.

There was a bench outside the restaurant where I sat down and watched the people go by while I waited for the restaurant to open. Whenever I am in Sao Paulo I am amazed at how well the women take care of themselves and how good they look. Brazil is a third world country with immense poverty, but in the better neighbourhoods of Sao Paulo that is nowhere to be seen. On average the women here look and dress as good as women anywhere else I have been including Paris, Rome, Milan, New York and London. It might be just my preference for the Brazilian look, but I think these women dress equally chic as their sisters in the before mentioned cities. I am not talking bodies here because in this regard the Brazileiras could dress up in any rag and still be the most desirable women in the world. What I am referring to here is the way they take care of themselves and how they dress. I guess living in the macho Brazilian society the only way for a girl to achieve any status is to look really good. I discussed this with the girl I took home from W.E. later in the evening too but more on that later.

Parigi is a great looking restaurant with equally great food which is a mix of French brasserie cuisine and Italian food. I ordered ravioli filled with foie gras and truffle sauce as a starter and the tornedous Rossini as the main course. With two glasses of red wine, the chocolate soufflé as dessert and a cup of coffee the bill was R$278. The chocolate soufflé is the same they serve in the mother restaurant Fasano and it is absolutely wonderful.
http://www.fasano.com.br/homeSp_br.php

When the taxi had returned me to my hotel the time was 13:30 and my date for this afternoon would show up in half an hour. I ordered two caipirinhas from room service and drank them in a hurry before taking a shower and changing my clothes.

Precisely on time 14:00 the phone rang and the receptionist informed me that my date had arrived. I asked the receptionist to send her up to my room. Two minutes later she was standing in my room as stunning as I remembered her from one year ago despite having had a child during the elapsed time. This girl is a long haired loira from Sao Paulo with blue eyes and a very curvy body. Her face looked a little more tired and jaded than I remembered but it might be just my recollection being clouded by too many whiskies and red bulls one year ago.

When I met her last year she was the first brazileira I had met who gave me a deep throat. She told me that her curvy figure was a result of her mother being black whereas her blonde hair and blue eyes where features from her father. She looks like a blonde, blue eyed, white skinned black girl. That is a perfect combination in my opinion. Last year she turned out to be really wild and horny in bed too. Today was no different. I had three hours at disposal with her and we used the whole first hour to catch up and having a few drinks. This girl loves whisky and red bull. She left for the shower while I retired to the bed watching some television while she dolled herself up.

She returned from the shower with a lewd smile on her face, jumped into the bed and kissed me on the mouth. Then she undressed me before repeating the amazing bare back deep throat from last year. I have no problems describing this as the best blow job I had ever had up to this point. I was to meet a girl on day 9 (a former Miss Bolivia) that blew my horn in a way that I previously didn’t thought possible, but that is a story for later. The current girl loved to receive oral sex too and became so wet I needed a towel to wipe my dripping face when I was finished. A big wet stain on the bed clearly gave evidence of her pleasure.

After the previous session she had complained a little that I had drilled her all night. This time I told her that since we only had a short time at our disposal she should be ready for a wild time and she seemed all for the idea too. We had sex in a lot of different positions and her love for receiving it from behind was certainly something I didn’t object to. She has an amazingly tight yet big and round bunda – just like a well trained black girl. Imagine this on a tanned blonde with a nice tan line. We also tried her on top and the reversed cowgirl position. It seemed to me that she enjoyed everything as much as I did. Again though the condom proved to be my enemy and I couldn’t pop. I told her that I usually don’t pop and she shouldn’t necessarily think of that as her fault or that I didn’t like her. She was certainly one of my favourites.

She gave me her phone number and e-mail address (my computer with all the phone numbers to my brazilian namoradas were lost when my computer was stolen a couple of months ago) before showering and leaving.

I had about an hour and a half until my dinner reservation at Fasano, so I called the reception and asked them to wake me up in about half an hour.

When the phone rang and woke me up my head was spinning. The five hour time difference and jetlag was getting to me. I took a cold shower, which helped, changed my clothes and went down to the reception where I called for a taxi.

The taxi ride from Brooklin to Jardins (where the Fasano restaurant is located) is long and during the rush hour around seven or eight it is a nightmare. Like yesterday I was late for my dinner reservation. When I arrived it wasn’t a problem though as I again were the first guest to dine in the restaurant. The Fasano restaurant is one spectacular place. The floor is in black Italian marble and the walls and roof are made of dark wood. Black leather seats and dark wood tables accompanied with dim lighting and an amazingly high ceiling creates a majestic, formal yet romantic atmosphere. This is supposed to be a place to see and be seen by the Paulistano celebrity. I was there for the food though which is equally impressing. I ordered a caipirinha while looking through the menu. The starter I chose was a big ravioli filled with ricotta cheese accompanied with truffle sauce. The second course was lobster with tomatoes, mushrooms and rosemary cooked in a paper bag. The third course was lamb chops filled with foie gras accompanied with mashed, truffled potatoes. This was certainly the best meal I have had in Sao Paulo and the lobster might even be the best I have ever eaten. I had one bottle of a wonderful Barolo wine and the total bill was R$903. I admit this was a bit over the top but certainly worth every penny to a post cancer patient who hasn’t eaten anything but crap for one year. I have dined at this restaurant once before and then the bill was R$1200, so compared to that this was not as bad as could be feared. I will not forget this meal in a long time.

I asked for a taxi and went outside the restaurant for some fresh air. Looking at the people entering and the cars outside the hotel this restaurant is located in it is not difficult to understand that this was a place for people watching.
http://www.fasano.com.br/homeSp_br.php

The taxi ride to W.E. is not long but since I was late for my dinner reservation I was now late for W.E. too. The best time to arrive is before 21:00 and the time was now 22:00. Thursdays are the best days at W.E. More girls are present but also more clients. Before entering I feared that it would be too late to have a chance to first get a good overview of the girls present and then choose the one I wanted without having to deal with the fact that she was occupied.

When entering the hostess Josie was sitting at her usual chair by the entrance door. She recognized me immediately and came over to give me a kiss. Edson sitting at the table right beside the entrance came over too and shook my hand and said that it was a long time since he had seen me. I told him that I had been sick for a year but he could be sure to see me more in the future than during the past year. Most of the waiters recognized me too and came over to greet me welcome.

As I feared most tables with a good view of the comings and goings of the girls were occupied so I took a chair at the bar where most girls available usually are seated. This place also gives a view of the entrance in case any new girls arrive. In W.E. the girls will not aggressively approach you, so sitting at the bar with the available girls was no big problem.

I saw three really great looking girls that I thought would be possible candidates for the night. One was a short blonde with blue eyes, a small, round and tight bunda and a really tight stomach. She had a very sexy swinging of her hips when she walked. She was my number one choice. The number two choice was a tall morena wearing jeans and green top covering her stomach. Her clothing wasn’t very revealing but she certainly was slim and her angelic face was a borderline ten. Her long, curly hair was so intensively black it was almost shining in shades of blue. My third choice was a tall blonde wearing really tight jeans and a very short top revealing her stomach and a very sexy tan line around her hips. The number two and three choices were occupied though. The number one choice was walking around the club with her two friends greeting customers she knew. It was obvious she had just arrived too.

I asked one of the waiters what the name of my number one choice was and was told her name was Pamela. I could definitely see the resemblance to Pamela Anderson in her face although Pam’s two big guns were nowhere to be seen. The waiter told me that another client had called for her though, so she would be busy. Damn! This was what I had feared.

While waiting for one of them to become available, I took a walk around the club to check out if anybody else would be appealing. I didn’t find anyone that could match the three, but I did find out that W.E. had been renovated since the last time I had been there. The terrace outside the first floor isn’t there anymore. That fist floor has been expanded and the space that used to be the terrace is now a part of the first floor. The second floor was closed with a guard standing outside. Previously there was no door on the top of the stairs leading to the second floor and certainly no guard. I tried to go upstairs, but the guard stopped me and grunted something in Portuguese I didn’t understand.

I walked back down and found my seat at the bar again. Patricia, one of the girls I had met before came over to say hello and brought with her my number two choice. She had obviously become available. We talked for a while and I told them I liked my number two choice but I had my eyes set on someone else. At this point I didn’t get the name of my number two choice though. The girls told me to call for them if I changed my mind and then they left.

Within a short while Pamela and her friend came over to the bar. Pamela’s friend said hello to a client sitting at a table right beside the bar. I took the opportunity to get Pamela’s attention and asked her if she would like to join me for a drink. She looked at me, smiled and simply answered – “No. No drink.” and then both the girls left. What the hell was this? I wasn’t used to being turned down in W.E. Were things changing here or what the hell just happened?

Within a short time again all my three possible choices for the night were occupied. A long time passed and none of the three girls I wanted became available. I was starting to fear that this would be the first night I would ever leave W.E. without any company. Washington came over to my table to greet me welcome and told me to just relax. Edson noticed my dismay and came over to the bar and sat down beside me. “No namorada?” he asked me. “Not yet” was my reply. He pointed over to a blonde sitting at the table beside the entrance and said that she gave the best blowjob in the entire club. Would I be interested in talking to her?

Put yourself in my position. Of my three possible sessions so far only two turned into sex. Of those two sessions only one was including BBBJ which is pretty much a requirement for me to pop and that one session didn’t end up with a pop on my part. Here in paradise of blowjobs (the percentage of girls providing BBBJ in W.E. is far higher than any other club I have visited in SP) I was given the proposition to have the girl with the best blowjob skills. What do you think my answer was? YES, YES, YES, YES!!!!!!! :D

The girl was actually quite good looking. Why hadn’t I noticed her before? My mind was too firmly determined to get one of my three first choices I hadn’t noticed this girl before. She didn’t look as good as the three first choices, but she wasn’t far behind.

Edson showed her over to my table where she kissed me on both chins and told me her name was Araziella. I thought to myself that her name was going to be hard to remember. Edson left us and Araziella asked me if I would like to get us a table where we could sit a bit more comfortably. I agreed and a waiter showed us to a table by the stairs to the second floor. When seated I asked Araziella what had happened to the second floor and why there was a guard outside. She told me that the second floor was now a V.I.P. floor with entrance for V.I.P. members only. She also told me that V.I.P. members have no minimum consumption fee for themselves and two accompanying friends. A bottle of Johnnie Walker black label and access to the V.I.P. floor and the presidential suite is included in the membership. The girls present on the V.I.P. floor are different from downstairs. The membership cost R$2200 for one year. Well, guys – you know me. I couldn’t say no. Araziella called for the hostess Josie to help me with the membership.

Josie is very friendly and helpful. She is also the only person on staff at W.E. who speaks English. She is a big flirt too and whenever there is something I want, I prefer speaking to her over Edson and Washington.

Araziella and Josie led me upstairs to the V.I.P. floor where I signed the papers for the V.I.P. membership, chose my membership number, were given my bottle of Black Label (which I signed with GK, so they can keep it until I show up the next time) and given the V.I.P. membership card. Josie left us and I had a chance to look around. The second floor is air conditioned in a much better way than the first floor which is a big plus in my book. There is a separate bar on the second floor and a much nicer bathroom. Otherwise the facilities are just the same as before the second floor turned into a V.I.P. room.

I looked around and saw at least ten girls and maybe three or four clients. I wouldn’t say that all the girls were better looking than the girls downstairs. In fact my three first choices downstairs were better looking than all the girls upstairs except for two outstanding ones. The best looking of these two was a big surprise – the girl I had at my hotel this afternoon. I had no idea she was working at W.E. She is a quite famous magazine model with her own webpage. The other good looking woman was her friend and she is also a famous magazine model. I didn’t much care for the fact that she hadn’t told me she worked her. In fact she had asked me what clubs I used to frequent when in SP and I had told her Garden Club, W.E., Café Foto and Bahamas. She had then told me that she didn’t like W.E. and that she would recommend Café Foto – as if trying to keep me away from W.E. I never asked what her price was in W.E. but from the way she acted I am sure it was below what I had paid her this afternoon. I called her over and she came over to my table pretending to be surprised. I just smiled and told her that I had a new girlfriend for the night. She obviously felt uncomfortable and sat down at another table.

After about half an hour of getting to know each other, kissing and a bit of fondling, I told Araziella I would like to bring her to my hotel for the night. She said it would be no problem and she would stay until the morning. She had her own car so she could drive us to the hotel.

We went down to the first floor and I took care of the bill which was R$3200. Araziella was R$1000 and the V.I.P. membership was R$2200. After the bill was settled, Araziella left me for a short while to get her coat and bag. While she was gone my number two choice morena walked past my table and I grabbed the chance to talk to her a little bit before leaving. She told me her name was Graziella and Josie came over too and said that Graziella had been a playboy coelinha not long ago. I haven’t checked this yet, but I will. Araziella soon returned and I had to say goodnight to Graziella although not without a little regret. Josie came over and asked if I would be interested in two girls but I told her that I would come back and ask for Graziella another time. Edson came over and thanked me for the business.

Araziella drove us back to the hotel where we had a caipirinha each at the bar before retiring to my room. She told me that she had been working with Edson for a long time – ever since Edson was the manager at W on Rua Alvorada. She asked me how often I was in Sao Paulo because Edson and most of the staff at W.E. seemed to recognize me. I told her that I come to Sao Paulo two - three times a year but just to have fun - no work. She then asked me why I preferred brazileiras and I told her that I think the women in the western world are too complicated to get in bed. She laughed a little at this and asked me if this was not the case with brazileiras. I answered truthfully that they indeed were of a different breed. Araziella then told me that for many brazilian women it is considered a big status to be desired by many men and that is the reason why so many famous garotas are avilable too.

I showered first and then she showered while I waited for her on the bed with a robe on. When she returned to the bed naked she undressed me and immediately started a very good BBBJ. I was a little drunk though so I don’t remember all the rumblings in the bed, but I do remember that blowjob as very special. I was too drunk to pop though and the next morning I didn’t press the issue of a repeat performance. I wanted to save the effort for the afternoon girl coming up.

When Araziella was ready to leave she couldn’t find her panties anywhere. She too had to leave in a really short dress with no underwear on. Like yesterday I could easily get an eyeful of her private parts when walking her down the corridor from my room to the elevator.
http://www.weflat.com

Very strange about those panties again. Could it be a coincidence that this happened two nights in a row……. ;)

GK

Nickster53
05-03-07, 01:33
GK,

I returned from Asia (China and Singapore) earlier this week and was wondering how your trip went. I will share some of the experiences on the appropriate forums but I assure you the trip was not as good as yours and my reports will not be the same quality as yours. It sounds like you had a great time in Sampa, I will take SP over Asia just about any day.

Once again your reports are a model for the rest of us and your budget is something we all aspire to. I hope to catch you on a future trip, maybe we can hit Puerto Alegre next time. I will save my money.

Again, welcome back and keep the great stories coming.

Nickster

Genghis Khan
05-03-07, 06:56
GK,

I returned from Asia (China and Singapore) earlier this week and was wondering how your trip went. I will share some of the experiences on the appropriate forums but I assure you the trip was not as good as yours and my reports will not be the same quality as yours. It sounds like you had a great time in Sampa, I will take SP over Asia just about any day.

Once again your reports are a model for the rest of us and your budget is something we all aspire to. I hope to catch you on a future trip, maybe we can hit Puerto Alegre next time. I will save my money.

Again, welcome back and keep the great stories coming.

Nickster

Nickster,

I have to admit that I really missed you on this trip but I still managed to have a good time. We will catch up one day and POA might be a good choice.

GK

Fourvip
05-03-07, 12:42
The best clinic massage in Brazil, beautiful girls.

www.4vip.com.br

Thanks

Four vip

Jonathan76
05-03-07, 14:57
This is my first time here so please forgive me - I know absolutely nothing about Brazil:

Two quick questions:

1. Does street prostitution exist in Sao Paolo ?

2. Is it possible to find chubby, white older women (40's - 50's) in this city ?

Any information is greatly appreciated.

Jonathan

Java Man
05-04-07, 02:36
2. Is it possible to find chubby, white older women (40's - 50's) in this city ?
Jonathan

You're joking, right?
I leave the states to get away from chubby women. LOL
IMHO, chubby women are few and far between in Brazil, thats why I go there. :D

Jonathan76
05-04-07, 03:19
You're joking, right?

I leave the states to get away from chubby women. LOL

IMHO, chubby women are few and far between in Brazil, thats why I go there. :DHello Chingon,

Thanks for the info, and yes I was serious.

I've been browsing the Brazil section photos and have yet to find either a gentle-faced mature women or a full-figured/voluptuous woman; They are all simply TOO young and too skinny for my taste.

I'm 34 and attracted to females in their mid to late fifties.

Any other suggestions on where to find my type ?

Should I simply forget Brazil altogether ?

Thanks,

Jonathan

RexG
05-04-07, 04:12
I'm interested in visiting Clinica VIP. After some searching of this board, I came up with very little info on this place. It is located far to the south of the city center in Jardim Santo Andre. Looks like a very difficult place to reach.

Anyone have any info on Clinica VIP (and the best way to get there)? Maybe the subway?

Thanks,
Rex

Java Man
05-04-07, 07:13
I'm 34 and attracted to females in their mid to late fifties.
Jonathan
Like fine wine.....
You're looking for P4P in that age group? That may difficult to find.
Generally speaking, Brazilians are narcissistic, especially in Rio, very body conscience. The P4P scene in Brazil is YOUNG, thin and fit.
IMHO, maybe if you play where the locals play or outside of SP or Rio, you may find some that are not so fit, maybe a lil older, but fifty? I would say not.
I think you may have better luck in a swing club, MAYBE.
I went to swing club 2a2 in Rio and saw a couple ladies that could fit your description. Swing clubs usually do not admit single men though, you'd have to bring a female.
If you spoke Portuguese, odds are, you could pick up a woman that interests you.

Sui Generis
05-04-07, 10:38
Older women are called «coroas».

There's Meyre Gueixa who is 45 (not 31 like in the ad)

http://www.abusado.com.br/nome.php?nome=meyregueixa
http://www.sexdreams.com.br/acompanhantes/ac001247/

Here's the name of older garotas (over 40) in São Paulo

Gisele Coroa
http://www.contatos.com.br/nome.php?nome=giselecoroa

Valquíria Treviani (36), Dana, Suzi Martini

Peter Den
05-04-07, 14:27
I'm interested in visiting Clinica VIP. After some searching of this board, I came up with very little info on this place. It is located far to the south of the city center in Jardim Santo Andre. Looks like a very difficult place to reach.

Anyone have any info on Clinica VIP (and the best way to get there)? Maybe the subway?

Thanks,

RexHere is their website:

http://www.clinicavip.com.br/centro.asp

Sorry, I haven't been there. Please let us know how it is. :-)

Almotu
05-04-07, 18:06
Jon:
Are you looking to hook up with a lot of older GILFs . . . Grandmas ;-0 . . . or just a couple? I would suggest hitting the beach on the weekend and checking out the more mature women there with their families. You could certainly hit the dating websites and just search for the older women who want to hook-up. But they would be relationship minded I believe . . . you'll have to pick them up like regular women. I would think that they would be flattered to gain the attention of a young 'stud' like yourself.
Probably not many p4p garotas in this category to cater to your fetish. Maybe try craigslist or newspaper adverts.

Almotu
05-04-07, 18:10
I am making a short visit to see my GFE from May 28 through June 4. Anyone in town then are welcome to show me around (always new places to visit and old places to explore) and we can share some hobby expenses. I can receive PMs.

Jonathan76
05-07-07, 04:10
Jon:
Are you looking to hook up with a lot of older GILFs . . . Grandmas ;-0 . . . or just a couple? I would suggest hitting the beach on the weekend and checking out the more mature women there with their families. You could certainly hit the dating websites and just search for the older women who want to hook-up. But they would be relationship minded I believe . . . you'll have to pick them up like regular women. I would think that they would be flattered to gain the attention of a young 'stud' like yourself.

Probably not many p4p garotas in this category to cater to your fetish. Maybe try craigslist or newspaper adverts.Almotu, Sui and Chingon

Thank you for the suggestions.

First of all, I'm not looking for grandmas. ;.). You know, women like your mom's friends. Mid 40's to mid 50's.

The reason I ask is that I visited Barcelona in 2006 and was pleasantly surprised to see a fair number of middle-aged, chubby women working on the streets (small streets off Las Ramblas thoroughfare). And where were they from? . BRAZIL! I spent 2 days there and found about 7 Brazilian ladies. They were extremely friendly and exactly my type: big hips and thighs with large, round butts.

So, Almotu, is the beach a real option? I'm white but with dark brown hair and brown eyes and I do speak Spanish so learning a few phrases in Portuguese shouldn't be a problem for me.

How would I approach them if they are with their families?

What about street prostitution in Sao Paolo? . Is that an option?

DJ FourMoney
05-07-07, 05:01
Hello Chingon,

Thanks for the info, and yes I was serious.

I've been browsing the Brazil section photos and have yet to find either a gentle-faced mature women or a full-figured/voluptuous woman; They are all simply TOO young and too skinny for my taste.

I'm 34 and attracted to females in their mid to late fifties.

Any other suggestions on where to find my type ?

Should I simply forget Brazil altogether ?

Thanks,

Jonathan

Not to poke fun at your expense, but....

You don't have to leave North America to find mature BBW's

There plenty of "pass the due date" and "overweight" women in the US, in all shapes, sizes and colors, most available for no more than a few dates out.

I say YES you should forget Brazil, waaay too many skinny women for your liking and I really don't wanna read about how "bad" it was because what you want isn't what's in LINE with what's available.

If you really want to travel away from the US; England would be my first choice and plenty of mature, overweight women there and you don't have to pay for it and you don't have to learn any Portuguese.

Jonathan76
05-07-07, 05:42
Not to poke fun at your expense, but....That's quite all right my friend, I'm used to it..... ;-)


If you really want to travel away from the US; England would be my first choice and plenty of mature, overweight women there and you don't have to pay for it and you don't have to learn any Portuguese.Wow really? England never occurred to me, thought it was more conservative. Also, aren't British women generally slim and slender?

Have you been there? Like I said I'm only interested in older and voluptuous 'housewife' types.

Why do you say it's not necessary to pay?

Genghis Khan
05-09-07, 10:24
When Araziella had left around 08:00, I went back to sleep for a couple of hours. I wanted to be fully rested when the girls for today showed up. This day was supposed to be the highlight of this trip. I had set up a meeting with two cariocas. One was a very recent Playboy cover and she was also voted the sexiest woman in Brazil in another magazine last year.

Since the madame I have used on my previous trips is no longer available, I used considerable time prior to leaving for Sao Paulo to locate a new madame I could trust. I had been in contact with a couple of alternatives but they either couldn’t get the girls I wanted or they wanted money before talking to the girls. None of these options were acceptable to me, but a guy called Joe Sampa helped me arrange most of my daytime dates on this trip. The girls I was going to meet today was not arranged through him though. One of the madams I was in contact with introduced me to a girl from Rio on messenger and she claimed to know a lot of the magazine models from Rio since she worked for a promoter/agent. We had become quite good friends over the last weeks before I flew to Sao Paulo. She had sent me some pictures of herself and she was very attractive too. So I had agreed with her that I would meet her and my “dream girl” from Rio today. They would arrive with a plane around 12:00 and spend the entire day with me before leaving around 23:00. The “dream girl” is a famous dancer and a very recent Playboy cover. The date with these two girls would be the most expensive date I had ever had. I hoped it would be worth it though because this particular Playboy cover looked amazing.

I woke up again around 10:00 and showered, shaved and got dressed before I took the remaining dollars I had in the safe and strolled over to the cambio close by. I needed more cash to pay for this date and the exchange rate they provided was better than at the airport so I decided to exchange the rest of my dollars.

After taking care of the money exchange I returned to the hotel and ordered two caipirinhas from room service. It was now half an hour until the girls were supposed to show up.

When the time showed 11:50 the telephone in my room rang. It was the girl from Rio. She told me that their plane was overbooked and they would not be in Sao Paulo until 15:00. I asked her if this would mean that I got a lower price since the time now would be shorter and she told me that they would stay the night with me.

Since there was no point in waiting for the girls before going to lunch, I walked over to Shopping D & D and had lunch at Barbacoa. Barbacoa is a chain of restaurants (I think two or three restaurants) in Sao Paulo. The most famous and best of these is the one located in Itaim. It is one of the best churrascarias in Sao Paulo. The Barbacoa located on the first floor at Shopping D & D is not a churrascaria but more of a steak house. They have the same magnificent salad buffet but you order your meat from an a la carte menu instead of the traditional churrasco style dining. I had the Picanha with creamed corn, fried potatoes and two glasses of red wine from Argentina. The bill was R$86 including the buffet.

When I returned to the hotel, the time was 14:00 and with nothing to do until the girls arrived I went down to the bar and had a couple of caipirinhas to kill the time. I informed the reception that I was sitting in the bar in case the girls would call med with more news.

The minutes flew by and became hours. One caipirinha became several caipirinhas and several beers. When my watch showed 17:00, I called the girls but the cell phone was turned off. This could mean several things; they would not arrive and didn’t want to talk to me, the battery on the cell phone had died or they were on the plane to Sao Paulo. I decided to wait until 19:00 before considering other options for the night.

Two hours and several caipirinhas later I was starting to get a little drunk and no girls to be seen. So I went up to my room, took a shower and was preparing to leave for dinner and then either go to Café Foto or Bahamas. Before walking down to the reception and calling for a taxi, I decided to try one last phone call to the girls. This time the phone was on and it started ringing. A sweet and sexy voice on the other end said: “Hello, darling. We are in Sao Paulo now and on our way to your hotel. The next flight was fully booked and the flight we managed to get landed at Guarulhos. We will arrive at your hotel in about 15 minutes.”

I called the reception and asked them to make a reservation at the seafood restaurant Porto Rubaiyat for three people since we had agreed earlier that we would have dinner at this restaurant. Then I went back down to the reception and told the receptionist I was expecting visitors and would be waiting for them in the bar. Since the girls now would be spending the night, I wanted to be down in the reception when they arrived and talk to them prior to going upstairs to my room because I wasn’t sure if the hotel would allow three people in my suite.

45 minutes later a bellboy came over to me in the bar and told me that my visitors had arrived. When entering the reception area, I met two girls. One was a typical carioca morena with dark skin tone and the other was a short, slim girl with hazel coloured hair and brown eyes. At this point I was a little drunk but managed to realize that the morena looked a little different then the photos of her in Playboy. Both girls were very good looking though. The morena didn’t speak a word of English but her friend spoke fluent English.

Since the girls now would be spending the night, they had brought bags with them. We were standing in the reception area and discussing if they should send the bags up to my room before we went for dinner or if they should just leave the bags in the reception, when the receptionist burst out in a loud voice “Sir, If you want two girls you need to open up a second room!” I am sure all the people in the reception area could hear her. This incident, which I don’t think was minor, was the only complaint I have against the hotel. I am sure she heard what we were talking about and wanted to avoid us sneaking two girls up to my room, but I think she could have handled it in a more discrete way. I simply answered her “Yes”, and told the girls to leave the bags at the reception and we would take care of this when we returned from dinner.

The taxi ride from my hotel to the restaurant was short so the conversation in the taxi only turned into some apologies from the girls for being so late.

When we arrived at the restaurant, the place was almost full. We were shown to a table in the middle of the dining room. We would have preferred at more private table but this was not possible. Porto Rubaiyat is a recently opened restaurant in the same chain as the restaurants A Figueira Rubaiyat and Baby Beef Rubaiyat. Porto Rubaiyat is a seafood restaurant and they get fresh seafood flown in from Spain several times every week. The dining room resembles the style of A Figueira Rubaiyat but without the huge fig tree. Several large tanks with living seafood and fish are located around the restaurant. These are not just for display but contain some of the ingredients found on the menu.

When had been shown to our table, the morena showed me photos she had on her cell phone of herself. These were shots I had seen of her on Internet too. I told myself that the photographers certainly did a good job because she looked quite different in those photos. She also told me that a man sitting at a table opposite us bothered her. She said that he was eyeing her constantly and had obviously recognized her. I was sitting with my back to this person, so I was not able to see if he was staring at her or not.

The girls ordered lobster and shrimps while I had a casserole with assorted seafood which was one of the restaurants specialities. I also ordered a bottle of Chablis. I think we only stayed in the restaurant about 40 minutes because the morena was so annoyed with the diner at the opposite table. The girls told me that they were aware of the fact that I probably would want to go to a nightclub and see the morena dance. She is part of a famous dance group. The morena told me that since I was paying to see her, she would be willing to do that even if it was a bit uncomfortable since she most likely would be recognized at the nightclub. At this point I was not in the mood to go to a nightclub and told them that I would prefer going back to the hotel. The bill at the restaurant was R$446. This restaurant gets my highest recommendation. I think it must be the best seafood restaurant in Sao Paulo.

Back at the hotel I opened up another room for the girls. It was R$310. They went up to their room to freshen up and we agreed that they would come up to my room when they were ready.

When the girls came up to my room we had a few drinks from the mini bar and talked for about half an hour before the English speaking girl told me that the morena would prefer to be with me alone. The English speaking girl told me she would come up to my room tomorrow morning and we would have a nice time then. The morena didn't understand English, so she wasn’t comfortable with me and the English-speaking girl speaking English.

After the English-speaking girl left, the morena started kissing me passionately. She led me out to the balcony where she proceeded to give me a BBBJ. The balcony was visible from several other rooms in the hotel. Even though it was a big thrill, I didn’t want to risk the chance of being thrown out. So I led her back into the room and undressed her.

At this point the effect of the alcohol had started to ease off and when the girl was fully naked I realized that this could not be the girl I had agreed to meet. This was not the girl from the Playboy cover. A plan started to grow in my mind. I was kind of glad now that I had opened up another room for the girls. The suite I had booked is on the top floor of the hotel. This floor is not accessible to the guests living on the lower floors where the girl’s room was located. They would either need the key card to one of the rooms on the top floor or help from someone at the hotel to get the elevator to reach the upper floor. Since the girls obviously had planned to set me up, I wanted to take advantage of the situation. I decided to have sex with the girl and don’t tell her anything. When she went down to their room, I would call the reception and tell them not to let the girls back up to my floor. Then I would leave the money I thought was fair for the performance the girl provided and a note in the reception explaining that I had discovered their secret.

The sex with the girl wasn’t overwhelming. She provided BBBJ but I really wasn’t in the right frame of mind to have good sex now anyway. I noticed a tattoo on her leg, which the Playboy cover girl hasn’t. I told her that I hadn’t noticed the tattoo in the Playboy photos. She seemed a little puzzled and answered that it was new. She seemed a little worried now and told me that she had to go down to her room to brush her teeth. When she had walked out the door I called the reception and told them not to let the girls back up to my room. Then I dressed and took R$200 out of the hotel safe put them in an envelope along with a not telling them that I knew the girl wasn’t the girl I had agreed to meet and that I thought her performance earned her the amount in the envelope. I hurried down to the reception with the note and asked them to give it to the girls when they checked out of the hotel next morning.

Then I went up to my room again and went to sleep.

The next morning at around 10:00 the phone in my room woke me up and the receptionist on the other end told me that the girls were in the reception and wanted to talk to me. Was it okay if the receptionist put them through? It seemed to me that the hotel also had blocked their room from calling my room directly and that they needed to go down to the reception to make this call. This was a very nice feature and help from the hotel. I told the receptionist that it would be okay. It was the English speaking girl on the other and she told me that she had no idea that the girl was not the Playboy cover and that she didn’t know her personally but had managed to get her from a contact of hers. She told me that the girl had shown her ID to prove her identity and it was strange if she wasn’t the girl I had agreed to meet. I told her about that tattoo and about a tattoo the Playboy cover has got on her back that this girl didn’t have. The girl answered that she hadn’t seen her naked and didn’t know these details. She also told me that the morena had left the hotel and was really pissed off. She wanted to know if I would be willing to pay the taxi expenses the girls had and their plane tickets. I told her that I really shouldn’t have paid them anything after the stunt they tried to pull but since I had sex with the morena I had decided to pay them what I thought was fair for her performance. I wouldn’t pay them more. She answered that she was too sophisticated to argue about money. She would accept my decision but she was worried about her reputation. She told me she had really no idea that this wasn’t the girl we had agreed on. I told her I wouldn’t tell anybody about this to get her off the phone without too many arguments. She was after all talking from a phone in the reception. She then told me she would leave and hung up. Two minutes later the receptionist called me again and told me she had left the hotel.

I am sure that the morena didn't find her panties when she unpacked her luggage though.;)

GK

Tjones
05-11-07, 09:12
First, this is a great board. But there is so much information and I haven't figured out which information is the signal, and which is the noise.

I'll be there in SP for about 5 days and staying at the Renaissance on Alameda Santos. For someone with limited time.- evenings only.- what is the best strategy to follow? Is there anything relatively nearby? Are the massagistas good, or is it best to try something like Ellass or Mclass? How do I communicate in English only?

Thanks for any pointers!

Tom

Raiders
05-11-07, 13:37
First, this is a great board. But there is so much information and I haven't figured out which information is the signal, and which is the noise.

I'll be there in SP for about 5 days and staying at the Renaissance on Alameda Santos. For someone with limited time.- evenings only.- what is the best strategy to follow? Is there anything relatively nearby? Are the massagistas good, or is it best to try something like Ellass or Mclass? How do I communicate in English only?

Thanks for any pointers!

TomIf you want to go the escort route you should be able to get a bell boy to help you make the calls for you and make sure the price is agreed to before they arrive. There was also some recent threads on a few of the English speaking escorts.

On the high end WE is nearby although English is not spoken there by most of the staff there is usually someone there that knows enough that you can get by. WE is easily within walking distance from the Rennaissance and Jardins is relatively safe at night but if it your first time in Sampa you probably should take a taxi as it is only a 5 min drive.

Some of the other clubs like Bahamas in Moema are not that far from Jardins and shouldn't take more than 30 mins if you go out later, after 8:30 to 9pm. when the traffic is lighter.

John Corey
05-11-07, 20:20
I will be in Sampa next week and need a transltor who can assist me in making appointments. Any recommendations?

Thanks.

Big In ATL
05-12-07, 22:53
Sorry, I didn't go there.

GKI actually checked it out this past week and the place is very high priced. The girls are very nice not spectacular but nice. I did talk to 2 girls there that wer twins. Bianca and Barbara. I settled on Barbara which was a good choice on my part! Total cost including club charges $450 US.

Genghis Khan
05-13-07, 09:37
I actually checked it out this past week and the place is very high priced. The girls are very nice not spectacular but nice. I did talk to 2 girls there that wer twins. Bianca and Barbara. I settled on Barbara which was a good choice on my part! Total cost including club charges $450 US.

You paid in USD?

GK

Big In ATL
05-14-07, 20:45
You paid in USD?

GKI paid her in USD and the club charges were via AMEX. She was 200 USD for 3 Hours.

Keyser Soze
05-14-07, 20:57
I am in Sao Paulo for a few days this week, if anyone wants to meet up.

Staying in Jardins area. Here on business and just looking for a beer buddy to take in the local clubs/sights.

Let me know.

Best,

Keyser

Sukky11
05-15-07, 06:30
I've been Sao Paulo 2005, and I met a girl in Vagao.

Had a good time w/ her in my hotel room. (250R$ I guess)

Also she gave me a phone number that day to call her later if I want. I would like to call her at nexy visit on brazil but I don't know how to start the conversation in phone call.

What should I say? Would you meet me? Or are you still going out for vagao plaza? Or would you go out with me instead of going vagao today?

Recommend me please.

PS: She can speak english well.

Bimbo Boy
05-15-07, 08:45
Well guys, I have made a memorable trip to one of the famous buildings full of *****s in Sampa.

The building is on Barao de Limeira 134 (Edifício Italia), in the rundown Centro area. Ones goes up a narrow staircase lined up with ugly *****s that try to attract your attention by gripping on your clothes. When ones get on a floor, one can see ugly pot bellied Brazilian men patting the ugliest women I have ever seen in my life. In the apartments, there is usually a small lobby for drinking beer while waiting for the small booths to get free. These booths just have room for a small bed with dirty sheets. Only small wooden panels separate the booths, not even reaching up to the ceiling, so that one can enjoy as well the sound and sights of other clients banging their provider.

There is a total of 8 floors. Probably over a hundred women working at any given time.

Of course, out of a hundred girls, 2 or 3 could be said to be good looking. However, the whole place reeks of filth. It must be the perfect breeding ground for any sickness since many clients are truck drivers that would never use condoms, and that bang all the road *****s on the Amazonian highways.

Needless to say, I did not play there.

What strikes me is that place is probably far from being the lowest step on the ladder. After all, this Centro area is middle class, with standard shops, and is very far from being a favella or slum. For the courageous, I think that there is still room for exploration in even bleaker districts of Sampa or Brazil.

The taxi driver told me that there are a lot of street walkers at night, many of them transvestites. As I left the district around 6pm, I already could see some of them walking to work. Well, I wish I could have taken pictures ... these poor people are absolute monsters worthy of a circus. Beggars sleep in the streets during the day and keep awake at night, because they do not want to be beaten by the gangs of thugs that roam at night. This place ain't for the faint of heart.

Regards. BB.

Jonathan76
05-15-07, 14:53
Well guys, I have made a memorable trip to one of the famous buildings full of *****s in Sampa.

The building is on Barao de Limeira 134 (Edifício Italia), in the rundown Centro area. Ones goes up a narrow staircase lined up with ugly *****s that try to attract your attention by gripping on your clothes. When ones get on a floor, one can see ugly pot bellied Brazilian men patting the ugliest women I have ever seen in my life. In the apartments, there is usually a small lobby for drinking beer while waiting for the small booths to get free. These booths just have room for a small bed with dirty sheets. Only small wooden panels separate the booths, not even reaching up to the ceiling, so that one can enjoy as well the sound and sights of other clients banging their provider.

There is a total of 8 floors. Probably over a hundred women working at any given time.

Of course, out of a hundred girls, 2 or 3 could be said to be good looking. However, the whole place reeks of filth. It must be the perfect breeding ground for any sickness since many clients are truck drivers that would never use condoms, and that bang all the road *****s on the Amazonian highways.

Needless to say, I did not play there.

What strikes me is that place is probably far from being the lowest step on the ladder. After all, this Centro area is middle class, with standard shops, and is very far from being a favella or slum. For the courageous, I think that there is still room for exploration in even bleaker districts of Sampa or Brazil.

The taxi driver told me that there are a lot of street walkers at night, many of them transvestites. As I left the district around 6pm, I already could see some of them walking to work. Well, I wish I could have taken pictures ... these poor people are absolute monsters worthy of a circus. Beggars sleep in the streets during the day and keep awake at night, because they do not want to be beaten by the gangs of thugs that roam at night. This place ain't for the faint of heart.

Regards. BB.Hi BB,

Good report.

One question:

Did you see any big-assed older, middle-aged women at Barao de Limeira or were they all young and thin.

Thanks.

Sukky11
05-15-07, 16:03
Help me out.

I met a girl in SP 2005 in vagao, and had a good time in my hotel room.(200R$)
She gave me phone number and told me to call later if i want.

And I would like to meet her again in my next visit, bt i dont know how to start the conversation w/ her in the phone.

Would you meet me in someplace?? or are you still going to vagao?? or would you go out w/ me instead of going vagao??

please help me out.

*she can speak english well

Loso69
05-15-07, 20:30
I will be arriving in SP this Thursday evening (May 17) and staying at the Mercure Apartments Central Towers (Paraiso) for 5 nights. No business. Just pleasure!

If anyone will be in town and wants to meet up, send me a PM.

Loso

RickMe
05-16-07, 00:37
Keyser you have your PM blocked. PM me if you want to get a beer this week after work.

Bimbo Boy
05-16-07, 03:26
Hi BB,
Good report. One question:
Did you see any big-assed older, middle-aged women at Barao de Limeira or were they all young and thin.
Thanks.

Hi. You will find there many fat asses and jug-sized breasts.
Most of the girls are fairly young.
The really thin ones are a minority.
Regards. BB.

Almotu
05-16-07, 05:37
Help me out.

I met a girl in SP 2005 in vagao, and had a good time in my hotel room.(200R$)
She gave me phone number and told me to call later if i want.

And I would like to meet her again in my next visit, bt i dont know how to start the conversation w/ her in the phone.

Would you meet me in someplace?? or are you still going to vagao?? or would you go out w/ me instead of going vagao??

please help me out.

*she can speak english well

First off, I seriously doubt you will get that same girl on the phone now . . . two years later. But stranger things have happened.

If I were you, I'd call the number and ask if it is [fill in her name]. If she is, then refresh her memory about who you are and that you would like to get together. Pick a restaurant, park or mall to meet up and get catch up.
If she can't meet you until the evening then suggest that you'll meet her back at the old spot, Vagao. She may suggest a different spot, the new place where she works at. Etc.

Good luck but don't count on it.

Jonathan76
05-16-07, 13:15
Hi. You will find there many fat asses and jug-sized breasts.
Most of the girls are fairly young.

The really thin ones are a minority.

Regards. BB.Hi BB,

Thanks.

I forgot to ask:

Are the women in Barao de Limeira white-skinned?

How much do they charge?

Are there other places like it in Sampa?

Can one find middle-aged women there or are they mostly young (20's)

Thanks.

Sperto
05-16-07, 16:05
Hi BB,
Thanks.
I forgot to ask:
Are the women in Barao de Limeira white-skinned?
How much do they charge?
Are there other places like it in Sampa?
Can one find middle-aged women there or are they mostly young (20's)
Thanks.
They are mixed in colors and age. Charge R$ 10.

If you don't get enough of ugly women on Rua Barão de Limeira 134 (Edifício Itatiaia) you can continue to the similar 8-story building on Rua dos Andrades 69.

I enjoy low-end places, but these two buildings are just to horrible (even though I found one nice girl).

Jonathan76
05-16-07, 18:51
They are mixed in colors and age. Charge R$ 10.

If you don't get enough of ugly women on Rua Barão de Limeira 134 (Edifício Itatiaia) you can continue to the similar 8-story building on Rua dos Andrades 69.

I enjoy low-end places, but these two buildings are just to horrible (even though I found one nice girl).Hi Sperto,

Thanks for that. You seem to know your way.

But I have 1 more question:

You said they were mixed colors and ages but can one find white middle-aged woman in her 40's or early 50's at either Limeira or Andrades ? What is the oldest woman you have seen there ?

Thanks.

Sperto
05-17-07, 08:04
You said they were mixed colors and ages but can one find white middle-aged woman in her 40's or early 50's at either Limeira or Andrades? What is the oldest woman you have seen there?
You can definitely find white women between 40-50 years in these two places. As I´m not looking for women that old I can't give any precise information. Sorry.

Jonathan76
05-17-07, 12:16
You can definitely find white women between 40-50 years in these two places. As I´m not looking for women that old I can't give any precise information. Sorry.Thanks Sperto,

The reason I ask is that some here have said that in Brazil you can't really find fat-assed middl-aged women, only mostly young (20-30)

So one can find big-assed middle-aged women in Brazil who are willing, yes ?

Also, I read an old report on limeira and andrades and it described the procedure as follows:

One enters the 10 floor building and enters an elevator which takes one to the top floor. After this you begin to walk down all 10 floors where 100 to 150 women are standing in the stairway and sideway waiting to meet you.

Is this right?

Thanks.

Sperto
05-17-07, 20:08
So one can find big-assed middle-aged women in Brazil who are willing, yes ?... One enters the 10 floor building and enters an elevator which takes one to the top floor. After this you begin to walk down all 10 floors where 100 to 150 women are standing in the stairway and sideway waiting to meet you.
Is this right?
Big asses are easy to find in Brazil. I think middle-aged GPs are easiest to find in low-end places. I remeber there was one porno cinema in Sao Paulo. When you bought a beer for R$ 10 there was a BJ included. All the women who offered this service where middleaged, fat (and tooth-less). I declined.
Yep, elevator to the top floor and then head down the stairs (one extra-floor above the top-elevator floor).
I wish you luck in your search.

One Eyed Man
05-18-07, 05:32
All,

I'm planning to be in São Paulo in a couple of weeks and am looking for suggestions on where to stay: someplace above average in quality, but centrally located and nearby the major clubs.

I know in the Forum people have said positive things about the Mercure Jardins and I'm also thinking about the Grand Hyatt.

Last time, I stayed at the Emiliano for a couple of nights--it was extremely cool, super service, and it's got a great location on Rua Oscar Frere, which is like Rodeo Drive or Madison Avenue. Also, and the hotel was girl friendly. Unfortunately it's a above my price range for a repeat visit.

Any comments?

OEM

Almotu
05-18-07, 06:24
Look into the Renaissance on Haddock Lobo in Jardins. http://marriott.com/hotels/travel/saobr
My friends have stayed there before and thought it was nice. But it was over my budget! How much did you pay at the Emiliano? They were girl friendly but did they charge you a guest fee per girl you bring up?

There is a nice Blue Tree near Paulista as well. http://www.bluetree.com.br

You have many options under $200USD per night.

http://www.solmelia.com/solNew/reservations/jsp/C_Search_Availability.jsp
http://www.atlanticahotels.com.br/atlantica/bookengine/index.asp

Voyajer1
05-18-07, 09:47
This should be a piece of cake for you. The majority of women in the two cheapo buildings mentioned (Limiera and Andrades) are middle aged, big assed brazilians. I'd say the ratio is about 50 or 60 out of 100 in each building. In addition, try some of the many private houses in the places such as the Tatuape, the cheapo bars in Consolacao; there are just way too many to mention. You are in luck since you are aiming for many of the poster's 4 and 5's in this forum. Read through the guide (Bubba Boy's guide in particular) along and you will see that there are so many big assed, middle aged options, you will just run out of time. You might want to bring your own hygiene kit to these places though, they are not for the faint of heart. But you are in luck; I'd bet many of these ladies will be happy you picked them. If you have any questions, feel free to send me a private message.

Thanks Sperto,

The reason I ask is that some here have said that in Brazil you can't really find fat-assed middl-aged women, only mostly young (20-30)

So one can find big-assed middle-aged women in Brazil who are willing, yes ?

Also, I read an old report on limeira and andrades and it described the procedure as follows:

One enters the 10 floor building and enters an elevator which takes one to the top floor. After this you begin to walk down all 10 floors where 100 to 150 women are standing in the stairway and sideway waiting to meet you.

Is this right?

Thanks.

Jonathan76
05-18-07, 13:50
This should be a piece of cake for you. The majority of women in the two cheapo buildings mentioned (Limiera and Andrades) are middle aged, big assed brazilians. I'd say the ratio is about 50 or 60 out of 100 in each building. In addition, try some of the many private houses in the places such as the Tatuape, the cheapo bars in Consolacao; there are just way too many to mention. You are in luck since you are aiming for many of the poster's 4 and 5's in this forum. Read through the guide (Bubba Boy's guide in particular) along and you will see that there are so many big assed, middle aged options, you will just run out of time. You might want to bring your own hygiene kit to these places though, they are not for the faint of heart. But you are in luck; I'd bet many of these ladies will be happy you picked them. If you have any questions, feel free to send me a private message.Sperto,

Thanks again. I was going to ask you about finding middle-aged ladies on the street scene but I suppose that won't be necessary now with Voyager's latest post.

Voyager,

Thank you very much.

Your post has sealed my plans to visit Sao Paolo. Now I am definitely going in the end of June for sure!

I am fairly new to the mongering scene so the thought that there are fat-assed "mothers" waiting in Sao Paolo makes me very, very happy. (I've heard that Brazilian women are very friendly too)

I shall certainly send you a PM message when it's activated.

3 questions:

1. What is the percentage of white middle-aged in Limeira and Andrades?

2. Is mid 50's a possibility or am I pushing my luck?

3. Is it really as inexpensive as 20 American dollars?

Thanks.

Timi Soara
05-19-07, 10:02
Does anybody know what is the situation at Love Story? Is it still jumping?

Easy to find pussy? If not is there any other place like Love Story anywhere else? Even if not in SP I would be interested?

Thanks

Sperto
05-19-07, 10:26
Sperto,
Thanks again. I was going to ask you about finding middle-aged ladies on the street scene but I suppose that won't be necessary now with Voyager's latest post.
I am fairly new to the mongering scene so the thought that there are fat-assed "mothers" waiting in Sao Paolo makes me very, very happy. (I've heard that Brazilian women are very friendly too)
3 questions:
1. What is the percentage of white middle-aged in Limeira and Andrades?
2. Is mid 50's a possibility or am I pushing my luck?
3. Is it really as inexpensive as 20 American dollars?
Thanks.
The category of women you are looking for, fat-assed white mothers in the mid 50's, is a category that I never been searching for. As this category of women might not be on the dream-list for the average monger they are mostly to be found working in low-class establishment, simple bars or on the streets.

Limeira, Andrades and the bars and the streets in the surroundings should be good hunting grounds for you. Maybe you can find something interesting in the Classificados in the newspapers?

Regarding your questions:
1. I can't give you any number, but the percentage should be quite high.
2. Mid 50's is a possibility as well. Maybe even a couple of 60's.
3. R$ 10 is equal to US$ 5. 15 minutes-sessions.

If it's your first time in Brazil you should be careful when mongering in these low-class areas.

Jonathan76
05-19-07, 17:04
Sperto,

You're exactly right. My standards of beauty are very different from those of the average/normal monger.

What I look for is not a fat woman but rather a well fleshed out, pleasantly plump, big-thighed, big-assed woman with a gentle, warm and motherly face. And motherly is the key word.

Yes, this will be my first time in Brazil. I'm a 34 year old white American of Iberian descent (my parents are Spaniards). I have dark brown hair,brown eyes and a very clean-cut appearance.

The unhygienic conditions of these low-end establishments are not an issue for me. It's more the unsavory characters I might encounter here. That's o.k. I'm going to play it safe, dress down and not venture out in the evenings.

Thanks

Benjoe
05-19-07, 21:50
If you want to do the escort route, go to the ecort websites or

http://www.gpguia.net/phpbb/phpbb2/index.php

and look for women labeled as "coroa" (meaning old timer, which is to say any woman in her 30s or older). Oftentimes, coroa will be parenthesis next to her name. Needless to say, they are cheaper. Not my thing -- you should have the market to yourself.


Sperto,

You're exactly right. My standards of beauty are very different from those of the average/normal monger.

What I look for is not a fat woman but rather a well fleshed out, pleasantly plump, big-thighed, big-assed woman with a gentle, warm and motherly face. And motherly is the key word.

Yes, this will be my first time in Brazil. I'm a 34 year old white American of Iberian descent (my parents are Spaniards). I have dark brown hair,brown eyes and a very clean-cut appearance.

The unhygienic conditions of these low-end establishments are not an issue for me. It's more the unsavory characters I might encounter here. That's o.k. I'm going to play it safe, dress down and not venture out in the evenings.

Thanks

Wandering Fool
05-20-07, 07:57
Mid 50's, big-thighed, big-assed woman with a gentle, warm and motherly face...

Isn't that exactly what many mongers are trying to get away from when they go to Rio?

Maybe you can just make arrangements with some of the mongers on this forum to "take care of things at home" while they're away?

Bimbo Boy
05-20-07, 20:58
Hi guys,

I highly recommend Sarah Couto (www.clubmodel.com.br/perfil.php?id=31) in Sao Paulo.

She is tall, has fine curves, and lovely small natural breasts (I really hate silicon boobs). Her skin is very smooth (she says that she uses gallons of skin cream).

She is well educated and very sweet. We had a nice chat when she offered me a welcome drink. We discussed of her childhood in Bahia and how she loves life in the big city. Do not be put off by her masculine voice on the telephone.

Even though she is quite experienced, at 28 years old she still enjoys the game, especially DATY. I have rarely seen such an anal enthusiast! I did not even have to ask for it, she spontaneously offered it to me. Needless to say, I happily took up the offer. I spend a lot of my time admiring her firm lovely body, both during the very professionnal BBBJ, and also when I was riding her from the backdoor.

I had remorse when leaving her, because she was not clock watching, and was asking me to stay. Unfortunately I had an encounter with a non-pro that I was chasing and I had to go.

I had a few African girls, but never really had the chemistry with them. However, I am becoming a fan of the Brazilian mulatas, especially Bahianas.

Her price is 150R$ for 1 hour and a half. I paid 200R$ for 2 hours.

She speaks no English, so use a Brazilian friend or ask your hotel concierge to mark the appointment for you (yes, don't be ashamed, you can ask them to do that for you).

Regards to all. BB.

Bimbo Boy
05-20-07, 21:03
How much did you pay at the Emiliano? They were girl friendly but did they charge you a guest fee per girl you bring up?

I never had any hotel in Sao Paulo asking for a guest fee. One can basically bring anyone to the room and no one asks for anything. It is a nice difference from Rio!
The Emiliano is one of the best hotels in SP, about 400 USD a night for the standard rooms.
Last time I was there, I screwed my girl in the spa tubs under the glass rooftops. Here are some pictures. Don't ask for directions because she is a non-pro. She is often proposed to do porn photos but has always refused.
Regards BB.

Dsmurth
05-20-07, 22:21
Guys, my Brazilian GF is bi sexual and we have taken a couple girls out of help in Rio before for 3some fun :). We are heading to SP next week for a couple mid week days of business. Any ideas on where to find a bi sexual interested garota?

One Eyed Man
05-21-07, 00:38
How much did you pay at the Emiliano? They were girl friendly but did they charge you a guest fee per girl you bring up?

For the days I want to stay, these are the prices (you'd think "Fall/Winter" would be off-season):
Hotel Unique...USD$330
Hotel Emiliano...$390
Hotel Fasano...$450
Grand Hyatt...$175 (on Avenida das Naçöes Unidas--is this a good location?)
(I got these names from tablethotels.com, which has lots of cool hotels.)

The Marriott Renaissance Almotu mentioned is nearly as expensive, at $278/night. The Tryo Paulista is $81.

I had no problem getting a girl into the Emiliano late at night, but I felt pretty guilty, since it is a tall, narrow hotel and the space between the reception desk and the elevator in't very big, though the night clerk didn't look up.

Surferr3
05-21-07, 06:53
It should fit in you budget. It's my FAVORITE hotel anywhere but on the spendy side. Cost should be around 280-300 US.

Sui Generis
05-22-07, 14:39
Hi guys,

I highly recommend Sarah Couto (www.clubmodel.com.br/perfil.php?id=31) in Sao Paulo.

She is well educated and very sweet. We had a nice chat when she offered me a welcome drink. We discussed of her childhood in Bahia and how she loves life in the big city. Do not be put off by her masculine voice on the telephone.

Regards to all. BB.

I agree with BB, this Sarah Couto is a very nice person. I know her on a personal basis (she's the best friend of two girls I know : Fernanda Moreno and Letícia Lima). Because I have a special relationship with Letícia Lima I feel uncomfortable to go out with Sarah.

I had the chance to spend several hours with her (and with my friend Letícia) on the terrace of a padaria in Moema which is located on the corner of Rouxinol and Pintasilgos. By the way, Sarah have a nice flat on Pintasilgos.

Good choice BB!

JW Capps
05-23-07, 15:43
I agree with BB, this Sarah Couto is a very nice person. I know her on a personal basis (she's the best friend of two girls I know : Fernanda Moreno and Letícia Lima). Because I have a special relationship with Letícia Lima I feel uncomfortable to go out with Sarah.

I had the chance to spend several hours with her (and with my friend Letícia) on the terrace of a padaria in Moema which is located on the corner of Rouxinol and Pintasilgos. By the way, Sarah have a nice flat on Pintasilgos.

Good choice BB!Hi SG,

First let me solute to your many excellent reports/comments on the scene in SP. Actually, I want to thank all senior memebers of the forum for their willingness to share good information. I just follow your guys' footsteps and posted my first report in the Travel section to help a first time traveler to SP.

Since you mentioned you knew the girl called Fernanda on the clubmodel website. I just had a section with her last night and I was so happy after that. As I mentioned in my report in the Travel section, she is definetly one of the best choice for working girls who can speak decent English. She is very sweet and always has smiles on her face. I have been able to build a good chemistry before we took actions on bed and things turned out just wonderful - can't not described in words !

She is also very interested in music and talked me a lot about music. I truely enjoy it. One of the downsize of booking her is her lack of sense of time - be late for the appointments. I have had two sections with her this week. She was late for both sections for at least an hour. It was frustrated to me before her arrival because she told me she is about 20 minute drive from my hotel in Jardins. When she arrived, she used her smiles to try to get excuse from me an I accepted her kisses as a good excuse. Because of the chemistry I built with her, I have also been very fortune to know some stories about her private lifes etc. And I feel it is not so appropriate share those here with other members. Overall, I had a great time.

The last comment I like to share in this Forum for those who are English speaking only traveller is the price. She charges R$350 for two hours at your hotel and R$250 for serivces at her flat at Moema. Based on my research on this Forum and on the GPGuia.net , I know she ( including other pros in SP ) normally charges people only speaking English a higher prices ( R$50 - R$100 ). My decision is to accept that fact until I master the Portugese. I personally feel I would pay this " premium " to get a good quality escort in SP like her.

I will continue to have fun till Friday when I return to US. And I will try to share more.

All the best to all of you.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Almotu
05-23-07, 22:28
I will be in Sao Paulo from May 28 until June 5. If any ISG members want to get together and hang out, PM me.

Almotu
05-23-07, 22:36
http://www.clubmodel.com.br/perfil.php?id=129
Is this the Leticia that you are friends with?
http://www.clubmodel.com.br/perfil.php?id=21
or the Fernanda?

Bimbo Boy
05-24-07, 00:11
One of the downsize of booking her is her lack of sense of time - be late for the appointments. I have had two sections with her this week. She was late for both sections for at least an hour. It was frustrated to me before her arrival because she told me she is about 20 minute drive from my hotel in Jardins. When she arrived, she used her smiles to try to get excuse from me an I accepted her kisses as a good excuse.
Man, do not be too hard on her for being late. Traffic in SP can be really horrible, and if it rains, then completely unpredictable. I have spent so many stupid hours in the back of a taxi, fuming because of congested traffic, that I feel I can't blame the girls for being late. This is the biggest downside of SP in my opinion.
Regards. BB

Sui Generis
05-24-07, 06:04
http://www.clubmodel.com.br/perfil.php?id=129
Is this the Leticia that you are friends with?
http://www.clubmodel.com.br/perfil.php?id=21
or the Fernanda?

No not them.

In fact, the Letícia I know used to have an add on the Sex Dream site and on Club Model. It appears that the adds are not there anymore.

The same thing for Fernanda Moreno/Lins. There's not pics of her anymore on the Web.

Sui Generis
05-24-07, 06:29
Hi SG,

First let me solute to your many excellent reports/comments on the scene in SP. Actually, I want to thank all senior memebers of the forum for their willingness to share good information. I just follow your guys' footsteps and posted my first report in the Travel section to help a first time traveler to SP.

All the best to all of you.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.



Thanks JW Capps.

Unfortunately, not all seniors members are willing to share information. I'm a little bit upset because last week I received a PM from another hobbyist. He was asking me if I could help him in finding high-end escorts in São Paulo (you know, the 2 000R$ kind of girl).

I replied to him that I didn't know upper scale agencies because this is not my cup of tea. But at the same time I replied that I was ready to speak with one of my informer in Brazil (a moderator on the GP Guia). My informant had not too much information neither. He just gave me the adress of two Web sites.

I gave that information to the ISGF hobbyist. I also said to him that he should try to PM a well known member on this board who writes reports telling his encounters with upper scales GP.

I was sad and upset to learn that he had tried several time to contact that other member but, allegedly, this person did not want to share the information he had. I truly believe that we should all share our information. This is the sole purpose of this forum.

Space Camel
05-26-07, 00:30
I am Sao Paolo these days. More specifically in the area PINHEIROS, where I, while strolling through the neighbourhoor with a friend, had a Thermas pointed out to me.

Could anyone help me out a tell me about the Thermas in Pinheiros? Link to good reviews, websites and so on? I'd be curious to know about price too, and compare it to Rio, where I just had a few "close encounters" with the local talent.

Space Camel

Paulistano
05-26-07, 05:54
It should fit in you budget. It's my FAVORITE hotel anywhere but on the spendy side. Cost should be around 280-300 US.I also love Unique (and the bar is FANTASTIC), but if you are looking for a cheaper (but good) hotel, try the Sofitel. On the other hand, if money is not a problem, you should try the Hotel Fasano.

Mangera
05-26-07, 13:22
is the location of the Sofitel. Is it near any of the more interesting clubs or massage establishments? Do you know more or less what the going rate per night is? Thanks.

Prosal
05-26-07, 15:20
Sofitel is in an outlying area of Moema.

I personnaly don't find nor the location nor the hotel appealing.

Looking For Fun
05-28-07, 02:41
I am in Sao Paulo and I am looking to have fun. Any news on guides I can use or anyone on here live an Sao Paulo and want to help me out?

JW Capps
05-28-07, 20:12
I am in Sao Paulo and I am looking to have fun. Any news on guides I can use or anyone on here live an Sao Paulo and want to help me out?Man, I think there is an easy way to fill some of your time without a local guide while you are in Brooklyn Nova - to visit Clinica Kin. A senior member of this Forum has made a few in-depth commentaries about this Clinica. During my visit of SP last week, it was originally on my plan to visit that. However, I had decided to abandon my plan completely after I had encountered two good quality escorts since day two of my visit. I was pleasantly surprised to find out that I would even receive the GFE from both towards the 2nd half of the week during my stay. I will elaborate a little bit more of my experiences on my filed report.

Clinica Kin is definetely one of the good choice in the Brooklyn Nova area, which fits well into a very simple to get and low-cost budget scenario. ( cost is about R$120/hour )

Have Fun!