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Prosal
05-12-08, 13:26
.Action near Vila Olimpiya?
Vila Olimpia/Itaim Bibi is the epicenter of SP regular nightlife.

If you have some "game" and cultural awareness, try Boogie, Corleonne Bar, Dublin, Show Bar, Favela, Rey Castro, Moca Bonita, The Bar, ect ... there is literally hundreds of options in this neighborhood. Go there with a positive, confident mood, don't be shy, be charming, and your chances to score will be quite high. Regular Paulistas are MUCH more approachable than their Carioca counterparts.

There's also in Vila Olimpia the most popular after-hours club in town, Lov.e. A crazy place, especially on Wed "funk carioca" parties, always loaded with all kind of people including GdPs (off duty) from nearby upmarket boates.

Bobo5
05-12-08, 16:37
some time ago I wrote about Virginia Santos, a nice mulatta I met at Bomboa. She had promised me some pictures that never arrived anyway I contacted her again last week for a second meeting and found out she has done a beatiful boobs job.

she was a perfect GFE and managed to fuck me 3 times!! I do not remember when it was the last time I did it!!

I can really recommend her to all of you that like Bahianas!!

http://www.contatos.com.br/nome.php?nome=virginiasantos

BB5

Tjmee
05-12-08, 23:42
She is pretty hot. I need to take a trip down there for like a week or 2, how much will it total out to. Just wondering, I don't need the best hotel, just something to get by, like running hot and cold water, and bed. Really.

Ratbutt
05-14-08, 11:41
Vila Olimpia/Itaim Bibi is the epicenter of SP regular nightlife.

If you have some "game" and cultural awareness, try Boogie, Corleonne Bar, Dublin, Show Bar, Favela, Rey Castro, Moca Bonita, The Bar, ect ... there is literally hundreds of options in this neighborhood. Go there with a positive, confident mood, don't be shy, be charming, and your chances to score will be quite high. Regular Paulistas are MUCH more approachable than their Carioca counterparts.

There's also in Vila Olimpia the most popular after-hours club in town, Lov.e. A crazy place, especially on Wed "funk carioca" parties, always loaded with all kind of people including GdPs (off duty) from nearby upmarket boates.Thanks, I know the Bars you mentioned but have never tried them.

What are the best hours to go?

The other thing is language. I have "game" in Spanish but my Portugese is virtually non-existent. Is that a deal-breaker?

Nabradi
05-15-08, 19:02
Can somebody tell me what the word "bobagens" means. I saw the following sentence: "Adoro falar bobagens bem gostosa e te dar muito prazer."

I understand except for that word

Thanks for help

Sui Generis
05-16-08, 05:46
Can somebody tell me what the word "bobagens" means. I saw the following sentence: "Adoro falar bobagens bem gostosa e te dar muito prazer."

I understand except for that word

Thanks for help


Bobagens is the plural form of "bobagem". It can be used as an interjection like : Bobagem! (Nonsense! Idle talk!) or in a sentence like «Isso é bobagem» (This is nonsense!).
Habitually it occurs with the cooccurrent verb falar: to talk nonsense, fiddle faddle.

For example, if a GP says that she likes you a lot, that you're very special, that she consider you as a lover and not a costumer, you may reply with this word: Bobagem!

Prosal
05-16-08, 12:21
The other thing is language. my Portugese is virtually non-existent. Is that a deal-breaker?
Wherever on the planet, you have to be able to flirt and keep a conversation going long enough that your target (non-pro) girl starts gaining interest.

Brasil is not different.

A158
05-16-08, 16:31
I have a trip to Brazil in two weeks. I will be flying to Sao Paulo, but my final destination is Sao Jose Dos Campos wher I will be there for a week before heading home. I did lots of searches on the Brazil board but can't find any mongering information on this city.

I also know it is a small obscure place, but was wondering if there are any mongering establishments such as termas or clinicas. Etc for some fun.

Kindly, if you know any information, please pass it on. My travel plan is strict and will not allow me to spend time in Sao Paulo, otherwise, the I would have used the many institutions available there.

Please help or make suggestions

Cheers,

TM

Sui Generis
05-16-08, 21:55
I have a trip to Brazil in two weeks. I will be flying to Sao Paulo, but my final destination is Sao Jose Dos Campos wher I will be there for a week before heading home. I did lots of searches on the Brazil board but can't find any mongering information on this city.

TM

Here's some places where you can find some activity in SJDC

This is a partial list

São José Dos Campos

PRIVÊS:

1) 118 Benedito Candelário Street – Downtown
Prices : R$50 (1/2 hr) R$100 (1h)

2) 189 Mário Galvão Street (Downtown)
Phone: (12) 3431-2993
Prices: R$60 (1/2h) R$100 (1h)

3) 402 Cap. Ferrera Maldos Street
Phone: (12) 3941-6265
Prices: R$50 (1/2h) R$80 (1h)

4) 147 Romeu Carnnevale (Downtown)
Phone: (12) 9124-5804
Prices; R$60 (1/2h) R$100 (1h)


MASSAGE:

1) Belfrance
Phone: (12) 3922-4878
Internet Site: http://www.belfrance.com.br/
Price : R$160 (1h)

2) Clínica Corpoinsano, 70 Roma Street
Phone (12) 3941-9218
Price: R$160 (1h)


FREELANCE GDP

http://www.carolzinha.tk/
Norely Moranguinho: http://br.geocities.com/noely_moranguinho/textnoely.html
Daiane Jacapau (Mulata) Phone: (12) 9146-3052
Aghata Mell Phone: 9182-2912 (She lives on Rua Roma) R$120 (1h

A158
05-17-08, 16:43
Here's some places where you can find some activity in SJDC Thank you so much sir.

I will give some of these suggestions a try and report back.

Cheers,

TM

Nabradi
05-20-08, 05:11
As mentioned in my earlier report, photos of Patricia Kimberly taken in her apt after I had fucked her.Goatboy, I envy you.

I was searching for Patricia Kimberly and saw your report and the two photos.
What a gal, what a great session you had. I want her too! She is just my type. I will be in Sao Paulo in early July, but unfortunately for a very short time only. I will have only one morning to have a possible date with her.

Do you or anyone else know if she has an e-mail address? I could only call her the night before and am afraid she might be busy already by the time I reach her. I sure would like to nail down a meeting with her by e-mail ahead of time.

Would appreciate any help on this.

Albert Punter
05-20-08, 12:15
Nabradi,

Normally girl's e-mail is posted in the many websites where they show their pics. Many of them have an hotmail account, so it is even possible to chat with them. Very enjoyable to break ice and understand girl's attitude.

In case you cannot get her e-mail, just try to call her in advance to set an appointment. It worked for me many times.
It is recommendable you remind her the "compromisso" the day before.


Goatboy, I envy you.

I was searching for Patricia Kimberly and saw your report and the two photos.
What a gal, what a great session you had. I want her too! She is just my type. I will be in Sao Paulo in early July, but unfortunately for a very short time only. I will have only one morning to have a possible date with her.

Do you or anyone else know if she has an e-mail address? I could only call her the night before and am afraid she might be busy already by the time I reach her. I sure would like to nail down a meeting with her by e-mail ahead of time.

Would appreciate any help on this.

Doggus
05-20-08, 22:49
Amigos,

I'm staying in Itaim Bibi next week and am planning to target regular girls in malls, cafes and bars.

If I need a quick GDP fix, can anyone recommend any cheap places (with addresses) in or around Itaim?

Many thanks in advance!

Prosal
05-22-08, 23:29
I'm staying in Itaim Bibi next week and am planning to target regular girls in malls, cafes and bars!
Doggus

Maybe you you missed those posts :

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=742025&postcount=1558
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=690925&postcount=52

Don't worry anyway. There is enought available non-pro pussy in Itaim Bibi to keep a skilled monger busy for the next 20 years.

Just play with your charm, your cultural awareness, your language skills and your game. ;)

Nabradi
05-23-08, 02:54
To all mongers in Sampa,

I have read your good reports about Vivian Hot and also on a young beauty called Júlia Gualter. Well, I have been in touch with Vivian by e-mail. Some of you might be interested to know that Vivian now does "dupla" (double) with julia.

Well, I have never done that before, but based on the reports in this forum and in GPguia I decided, what the heck we only live once, go for it! So I have a date with them for my trip in July.

Still hoping to arrange something with Patricia Kimberly also. But if that does not work out I have another tentative date with Sheyla Dantas.
Will certainly post a detailed report afterwards.

Mastodon
05-23-08, 03:33
Sorry to bother this thread, but I should be making some kind of reservations soon, and so far no response from SP Directory thread. Any and all recommendations on the following would be greatly appreciated? Many thanks in advance!

****************

Hi all!

Sorry to bother. But I will be taking my first trip to Latin America/Brazil/Sao Paolo at the end of May (Yeah! Looking forward to this after spending almost two decades in Asia). I checked the wonderful info on this thread. But a first timer like me could really use some updating (the Mercour Jardin went from $50 to over $150 since 2005? )

Could any kind soul recommend:

A) a place to stay for 4-6 nights? Preference would be for somewhere very close to the fun and service providers along with good food nearby? From the thread, it looks like Jardin sounds good for a first timer. But the hotels seemed to have changed. Not too expensive (<$100) and free airport shuttle or direct transport from GUH would be a big plus.

B) Once in the wonderful hotel, could someone recommend the clubs, clinics, privites (sorry for the mangled spelling but I don't know any Portugese, sigh! ) nearby that a first timer should try out?

C) Lastly I'm very much into forming a relationship with a "regular" who is very, very liberal minded when it comes to services, can introduce friends, stays over, and likes to have fun by showing someone all the sights and sounds of SP for a few days at the nightspots, restaurants, beaches, etc? Some english would help a lot. Bella was recommended earlier. Is she still around?

Ooops, almost forgot. How is the fishing from Sao Paolo?

Many, many thanks in advance!

Albert Punter
05-23-08, 05:50
I am quite sure wou will enjoy a lot.
Anyhow, ensure both will be available, as far as I know, Julia will leave the country in July or August for a short period.


To all mongers in Sampa,

I have read your good reports about Vivian Hot and also on a young beauty called Júlia Gualter. Well, I have been in touch with Vivian by e-mail. Some of you might be interested to know that Vivian now does "dupla" (double) with julia.

Well, I have never done that before, but based on the reports in this forum and in GPguia I decided, what the heck we only live once, go for it! So I have a date with them for my trip in July.

Still hoping to arrange something with Patricia Kimberly also. But if that does not work out I have another tentative date with Sheyla Dantas.
Will certainly post a detailed report afterwards.

Albert Punter
05-24-08, 03:37
see my comments in RED



Sorry to bother this thread, but I should be making some kind of reservations soon, and so far no response from SP Directory thread. Any and all recommendations on the following would be greatly appreciated? Many thanks in advance!

****************

Hi all!

Sorry to bother. But I will be taking my first trip to Latin America/Brazil/Sao Paolo at the end of May (Yeah! Looking forward to this after spending almost two decades in Asia). I checked the wonderful info on this thread. But a first timer like me could really use some updating (the Mercour Jardin went from $50 to over $150 since 2005? )

Could any kind soul recommend:

A) a place to stay for 4-6 nights? Preference would be for somewhere very close to the fun and service providers along with good food nearby? From the thread, it looks like Jardin sounds good for a first timer. But the hotels seemed to have changed. Not too expensive (<$100) and free airport shuttle or direct transport from GUH *** would be a big plus.
Yes, Jardim are is very nice to stay and relatively safe. Also, you can find nice restaurants and you are not too far from some "boite" night-clubs where you can hook-up with girls. A hotel I can recommend is actually a "flat", a simple hotel where you have a living room + bedroom + bathroom. It is Opera in Alameda Lorena between Bela Cintra and Haddock Lobo, you can find info on www.transamericaflats.com.br (only portuguese version) promotional cost R 209,00 , around US$ 122.

B) Once in the wonderful hotel, could someone recommend the clubs, clinics, privites (sorry for the mangled spelling but I don't know any Portugese, sigh! ) nearby that a first timer should try out?
Some time ago Rua Augusta area was a good spot. Maybe some other members can update. Otherwise many "garota de programa" i.e. pro's live in apartments in that area, so either you go to their place or call them in

C) Lastly I'm very much into forming a relationship with a "regular" who is very, very liberal minded when it comes to services, can introduce friends, stays over, and likes to have fun by showing someone all the sights and sounds of SP for a few days at the nightspots, restaurants, beaches, etc? Some english would help a lot. Bella was recommended earlier. Is she still around?
As I speak local language, I don't know girls who speak English, sorry.

Ooops, almost forgot. How is the fishing from Sao Paolo?
Fishing ? SP is not on the sea.

Many, many thanks in advance!

*** abbreviations for Sao Paulo airports are GRU for Guarulhos, which is international/domestic airport just outside town, and GCH for Congonhas, which is downtown and caters for domestic flights only.

Vincentnld
05-25-08, 20:02
Dear experts,

I have short qwestion. I visit brazil in July.

Which is the best part of supernice girls.

Rio or SaoPaulo.

If you can give me some tips thank you! If you can thake time to pm me. That is super!

I will post report and pics when I return!

Vince!

Amsterdam Holland

Mastodon
05-26-08, 02:56
Many, many thanks for your help, Mr. Punter. I am beginning to see how friendly Brazil is!

I'm afraid that when I tried Transamerica, all their flats/hotels were full during the period I will be in Sao Paolo (check in: 2 June, check out: 6 June). I hope I didn't misunderstand (given my lack of Portugese). Same thing happened when I tried to check out some Meccour hotels. I'm getting scared that there might be a big convention in town or something?

I checked out www.expedia.com (my usual) and the have the following hotels in Sao Paolo free for those dates with daily rate shown:

Tryp Guarulhos $66
Tryp Nacoes Unidas $74
Best Western Panamby Hotel $74
London Othon Flat Hotel $84
Le Premiere Othon Flat $84
Sao Paulo Othon Classic $84
Tryp Itaim $87
Tulip Inn Interative $88
Tulip Inn Paulista Convention $92
Tryp Iguatemi $97
Tryp Tatuape $99
Century Paulista Hotel $100
Tryp Jesuino Arruda $107
Tryp Higienopolis $110
Golden Tulip Park Plaza $112
Tryp Berrini $113
Tryp Paulista $118
Estanplaza Ibirapuera $120
Estanplaza Nacoes Unidas $120
Estanplaza Berrini $127
Sonesta Sao Paulo Ibirapuera $128
Park Suites Itc $129
Estanplaza Paulista $130
Estanplaza Faria Lima Funchal $130
Estanplaza International $130
Golden Tulip Paulista Plaza $144

Could anyone recommend one of these? The main criteria are:

No. 1 - safe and convenient spot close to service providers and the night life that comes with it.

No. 2 - convenient access to and from GRU (many thanks for correcting my airport alphabet mix up!).

All and any advice would be greatly appreciated! Many thanks in advance!
[QUOTE=Albert Punter]see my comments in RED

Albert Punter
05-27-08, 04:44
Only hotel I know among those you mention is Sonesta Ibirapuera, located not far from shopping Ibirapuera, which is girl friendly, if my memory serves me well.

As far as their convenience to/from GRU, you may want to check hotels location on the map, taking into consideration that GRU is located north-east side of the city.

Mastodon
05-28-08, 16:19
Just for the forum's info, I went back to the Transamerica website. For some reason, the english reservation page kept on saying that all their hotels were booked no matter what date or what hotel. So I emailed them directly and got a booking at Opera.

Many thanks again for all the help! Will try to post FRs on activities in Sao Paolo during the trip!


Only hotel I know among those you mention is Sonesta Ibirapuera, located not far from shopping Ibirapuera, which is girl friendly, if my memory serves me well.

As far as their convenience to/from GRU, you may want to check hotels location on the map, taking into consideration that GRU is located north-east side of the city.

A158
05-29-08, 22:09
Here's some places where you can find some activity in SJDC

This is a partial list

São José Dos Campos

PRIVÊS:

1) 118 Benedito Candelário Street – Downtown
Prices : R$50 (1/2 hr) R$100 (1h)

2) 189 Mário Galvão Street (Downtown)
Phone: (12) 3431-2993
Prices: R$60 (1/2h) R$100 (1h)

3) 402 Cap. Ferrera Maldos Street
Phone: (12) 3941-6265
Prices: R$50 (1/2h) R$80 (1h)

4) 147 Romeu Carnnevale (Downtown)
Phone: (12) 9124-5804
Prices; R$60 (1/2h) R$100 (1h)


MASSAGE:

1) Belfrance
Phone: (12) 3922-4878
Internet Site: http://www.belfrance.com.br/
Price : R$160 (1h)

2) Clínica Corpoinsano, 70 Roma Street
Phone (12) 3941-9218
Price: R$160 (1h)


FREELANCE GDP

http://www.carolzinha.tk/
Norely Moranguinho: http://br.geocities.com/noely_moranguinho/textnoely.html
Daiane Jacapau (Mulata) Phone: (12) 9146-3052
Aghata Mell Phone: 9182-2912 (She lives on Rua Roma) R$120 (1hSir,

As the time for me to visit São José Dos Campos, I pulled out a map of the city on google maps and found some street name issues. Here is what I found:

In the PRIVÊS:

1. Benedito Candelário Street – Downtown, (google lists R. Benedito Ferreira Candelaria which runs north/south between R Sebastiao Humel and R. Cel Jose Monteiro near a highway interchange)

2. Mário Galvão Street (Downtown), (google lists R. DR. Mário Galvão)

3. Cap. Ferrera Maldos Street, (Google lists R. Capt. Roberto F. Maldos whis is also in downtown and runs north/south just to the west of street in item 2)

4. Romeu Carnnevale (Downtown) (Google lists R. Romeu Carnevalli which also runs north/south just west of item 3).

May I assume that R. (is sort for Rue or street) and that the differences between the street names and what you provided was more or less typos?

Also, do I assume that a "PRIVÊS" is more or less a house where the madam presents a few girls to choose from and the girls take you to the room for action?

Please let me know when you have a chance. I depart this coming Sunday and promise to report on these places when I come back.

Cheers,

TM

Sui Generis
05-30-08, 07:12
Sir,

As the time for me to visit São José Dos Campos, I pulled out a map of the city on google maps and found some street name issues. Here is what I found:

In the PRIVÊS:

1. Benedito Candelário Street – Downtown, (google lists R. Benedito Ferreira Candelaria which runs north/south between R Sebastiao Humel and R. Cel Jose Monteiro near a highway interchange)

2. Mário Galvão Street (Downtown), (google lists R. DR. Mário Galvão)

3. Cap. Ferrera Maldos Street, (Google lists R. Capt. Roberto F. Maldos whis is also in downtown and runs north/south just to the west of street in item 2)

4. Romeu Carnnevale (Downtown) (Google lists R. Romeu Carnevalli which also runs north/south just west of item 3).

May I assume that R. (is sort for Rue or street) and that the differences between the street names and what you provided was more or less typos?

Also, do I assume that a "PRIVÊS" is more or less a house where the madam presents a few girls to choose from and the girls take you to the room for action?

Please let me know when you have a chance. I depart this coming Sunday and promise to report on these places when I come back.

Cheers,

TM


Yes, exactly. R. stands for rua (street).

The description you gave of a privê is right. Sometimes, you may choose a girl from a scrapbook or the girls may parade in front of you. On some places, both options are available.

Rawdeal
05-30-08, 18:04
Hi Guys,

You all have posted some really interesting info here. Am going to Sao Paulo for the first time, infact going to Brasil for the first time.

I've already booked my hotel, its in Paulista. I'll be there for about 2-3 days before going to Rio. I do not know any Portugese or Spanish!

Can anyone suggest me some good places to go have 'fun', or direct me to a relevant post. A place with lots of beautiful girl. Thats natural to brasil, and safe as well. Also some hints / tips, etc will be much appreciated.

Thanks a lot guys!

King99
05-30-08, 19:36
First time to SP and I like the sound of some of the posts here.

Staying at the Blue Tree Towers across from Morumbi Shopping Center until next Thursday night and am look for some advice on places with hot women close by. Willing to pay well (not too crazy) for a interesting lady. Some of the posts and prices posted look pretty reasonable so far.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Rawdeal
05-30-08, 19:38
Hi Guys,

I'm coming to Sao Paulo for the first time, infact to Brasil for the first time. have booked myself in a hotel in Paulista.

Am looking for some 'fun' places around there, even a terma will do. Can anyone suggest some personal favorites or direct me to any earlier post? Also, some hints / tips will me much appreciated.

Thanks a lot!

A158
05-30-08, 21:29
Yes, exactly. R. stands for rua (street).

The description you gave of a privê is right. Sometimes, you may choose a girl from a scrapbook or the girls may parade in front of you. On some places, both options are available.Excellent.

Thank you for the clarification.

Cheers,

TM

Orca11
05-31-08, 15:07
can anyone write down a short list of the best massage or prives to go to downtown or nearby area sao paulo. I know someone who just landed in sao paulo and i want to relay to info to him.

thanksI like this place called saunahouse.

http://www.saunahouse.com.br/

Chan Nimal
06-01-08, 18:03
Did the plane flights to SP go up a few hundred dollars or is that the summer prices.with the problems with fuel costs we should expect to see flights going anywhere going up by a lot.

Latitude Cruz
06-04-08, 19:15
I've seen her photo posted on a couple sites but always with the same name.
Anyone familiar with this agency, and specifically this girl?
I keep hearing my little voice saying "If it looks too good to be true, it probably IS."
But the fact the same name is always associated with the photo gives me hope.

http://www.escortsp.com.br/free.php?id=st000023

By the way, anyone remember the former Sao Paulo escort site "sexdreams"? When you try to go there now, it automatically redirects you to mclass. Is it the same people?

LC

Mastodon
06-04-08, 23:22
I'm sitting here in the Transamerica Flat Opera in sprawling SP! Location of this place is wonderful (and many thanks to AP and all the others who contributed). Just one block from Oscar Freire which is billed as one of the world's 10 most fashionable streets (sort of the 5th Ave of SP but on a much more enjoyable and human scale). Embassies are close by, so it is a green and safe neighborhood mixed with chic high rises.

Prices are high in the neighborhood. But with reasonable food & drink (including mixed stuff like cabriha (sp) in the open air white tiled places on many street corners, life is good.

Haven't checked it out but the Villa Olympia and Itiambib nonpro nightlife is in the neighborhood next door.

Getting from airport was no problem (even for non Portugese speaking first timer). Tourist desk either reccomended an airport bus (28R) to Paulista Ave + a short walk or a special airport taxi to the door (85R). I've discovered that Paulistas are very respectful and will not bother you. But give anyone a smile and all is warmth, openess, and help.

On to garota-dom, as dierected in this wonderful forum, Flat Opera \ Jardin is so convenient, it's obscene. Upmarket Bilbao\J. America\D are a short walk away! Augusta clubs just up Agusta a bit more of a trip. The Privees are similar distance. So pretty much all hear except the climics of Campo Bello anf Brooklyn (closer to the airport).

Prices are much higher than Thailand, Malaysia, China, Vietnam. But the ladies are much more liberated and seem to enjoy it all much more. Must be the culture: porn DVDs are sold in gas stations, erotic nude posters on corner magazine stands, Flat Opera receptionist doesn't bat an eyelash as you bring a parade of girls in (hint: smile a lot and talk to the hotel staff). Open advertising offering to be in porn films with garotas quite proud to tell you about porn films they have been in.

I've never seen so many orgasms in one place before. Not the fake moans. But the screaming, thrashing multiples body spasms that messes up hair, make up, and leaves them shattered breathing too hard to talk.

Also the variety! Blondes. Brunettes, blue eyes, green, red heads, white, brown black. Can't find this in east asia.

Day 1. Called Bella for english speaking skills. Turns out all she could say was "I want to give you my a**hole! " (maybe another Bella took over? ). But it's cool. She has an english speaking manager. For an obscene amount of money (I'm embarassed to say how much), she was punctually at my door for a great french, BBBJTC, AR, no clock watching session. Never managed to make it to FS or anal even after several rounds.

Next day went to Bilbao. Expensive (now 180R including 5 drinks + dinner) but something to try at least once. Imagine the spectrum of the world's ladies (minus full east asian perhaps) parading by in sexy wear (panties were definately NOT part of anybody's uniform). Best part is that the girl's are respectful, do not attack you in droves looking for drinks like in Bangkok bars, waiters actually discourage buying girls drinks. Waiter will also help you make a selection. When a selection is being chosen, hands and kissing can be part of the process if she likes you (hint: foot massage). That's when the pantyless world becomes a gift from heaven. Maybe it's just me. But the ladies seem really into having things done to their rear ends here even in public (hint: start softly).

Picked a dazzling blonde named Bianca (something different from Asia) for an even more obscene amount for overnight. Didn't make it to FS with this one either.

Too broke now for high end (though may call Bella for goodbye session). So maybe try out privees, low end strip clubs tomorrow. Resting tonight (getting too old for too much punishment).

One last thought: you can smoke cigars in the clubs here! Smokes, drinks, babes. Just sitting here puffing whether I can organize a session of eating fejoada off a garota?

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Cho 637
06-05-08, 08:23
I'm sitting here in the Transamerica Flat Opera in sprawling SP! Location of this place is wonderful (and many thanks to AP and all the others who contributed). Just one block from Oscar Freire which is billed as one of the world's 10 most fashionable streets (sort of the 5th Ave of SP but on a much more enjoyable and human scale). Embassies are close by, so it is a green and safe neighborhood mixed with chic high rises.

Prices are high in the neighborhood. But with reasonable food & drink (including mixed stuff like cabriha (sp) in the open air white tiled places on many street corners, life is good.

Haven't checked it out but the Villa Olympia and Itiambib nonpro nightlife is in the neighborhood next door.

Getting from airport was no problem (even for non Portugese speaking first timer). Tourist desk either reccomended an airport bus (28R) to Paulista Ave + a short walk or a special airport taxi to the door (85R). I've discovered that Paulistas are very respectful and will not bother you. But give anyone a smile and all is warmth, openess, and help.

On to garota-dom, as dierected in this wonderful forum, Flat Opera \ Jardin is so convenient, it's obscene. Upmarket Bilbao\J. America\D are a short walk away! Augusta clubs just up Agusta a bit more of a trip. The Privees are similar distance. So pretty much all hear except the climics of Campo Bello anf Brooklyn (closer to the airport).

Prices are much higher than Thailand, Malaysia, China, Vietnam. But the ladies are much more liberated and seem to enjoy it all much more. Must be the culture: porn DVDs are sold in gas stations, erotic nude posters on corner magazine stands, Flat Opera receptionist doesn't bat an eyelash as you bring a parade of girls in (hint: smile a lot and talk to the hotel staff). Open advertising offering to be in porn films with garotas quite proud to tell you about porn films they have been in.

I've never seen so many orgasms in one place before. Not the fake moans. But the screaming, thrashing multiples body spasms that messes up hair, make up, and leaves them shattered breathing too hard to talk.

Also the variety! Blondes. Brunettes, blue eyes, green, red heads, white, brown black. Can't find this in east asia.

Day 1. Called Bella for english speaking skills. Turns out all she could say was "I want to give you my a**hole! " (maybe another Bella took over? ). But it's cool. She has an english speaking manager. For an obscene amount of money (I'm embarassed to say how much), she was punctually at my door for a great french, BBBJTC, AR, no clock watching session. Never managed to make it to FS or anal even after several rounds.

Next day went to Bilbao. Expensive (now 180R including 5 drinks + dinner) but something to try at least once. Imagine the spectrum of the world's ladies (minus full east asian perhaps) parading by in sexy wear (panties were definately NOT part of anybody's uniform). Best part is that the girl's are respectful, do not attack you in droves looking for drinks like in Bangkok bars, waiters actually discourage buying girls drinks. Waiter will also help you make a selection. When a selection is being chosen, hands and kissing can be part of the process if she likes you (hint: foot massage). That's when the pantyless world becomes a gift from heaven. Maybe it's just me. But the ladies seem really into having things done to their rear ends here even in public (hint: start softly).

Picked a dazzling blonde named Bianca (something different from Asia) for an even more obscene amount for overnight. Didn't make it to FS with this one either.

Too broke now for high end (though may call Bella for goodbye session). So maybe try out privees, low end strip clubs tomorrow. Resting tonight (getting too old for too much punishment).

One last thought: you can smoke cigars in the clubs here! Smokes, drinks, babes. Just sitting here puffing whether I can organize a session of eating fejoada off a garota?

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Tried to send you a pm but you can't receive. Here's the gist:

I lost my Brazil cherry in SP in the Opera. There is a small magazine in the lobby for tourist with a lot of clubs listed in the back (adult) section. Try the chicken soup in the hotel restaurant. It is a meal by itself. (comes with bread and butter) Also try the pizzeria across the street. Good drinks and decent food, and sometimes nice eye candy. However, there is one night (don't remember which) it full of gays. The walk to Avenida Paulista from the Opera is uphill! Enjoy!!!!!

Genghis Khan
06-05-08, 11:06
I'm sitting here in the Transamerica Flat Opera in sprawling SP! Location of this place is wonderful (and many thanks to AP and all the others who contributed). Just one block from Oscar Freire which is billed as one of the world's 10 most fashionable streets (sort of the 5th Ave of SP but on a much more enjoyable and human scale). Embassies are close by, so it is a green and safe neighborhood mixed with chic high rises.

Prices are high in the neighborhood. But with reasonable food & drink (including mixed stuff like cabriha (sp) in the open air white tiled places on many street corners, life is good.

Haven't checked it out but the Villa Olympia and Itiambib nonpro nightlife is in the neighborhood next door.

Getting from airport was no problem (even for non Portugese speaking first timer). Tourist desk either reccomended an airport bus (28R) to Paulista Ave + a short walk or a special airport taxi to the door (85R). I've discovered that Paulistas are very respectful and will not bother you. But give anyone a smile and all is warmth, openess, and help.

On to garota-dom, as dierected in this wonderful forum, Flat Opera \ Jardin is so convenient, it's obscene. Upmarket Bilbao\J. America\D are a short walk away! Augusta clubs just up Agusta a bit more of a trip. The Privees are similar distance. So pretty much all hear except the climics of Campo Bello anf Brooklyn (closer to the airport).

Prices are much higher than Thailand, Malaysia, China, Vietnam. But the ladies are much more liberated and seem to enjoy it all much more. Must be the culture: porn DVDs are sold in gas stations, erotic nude posters on corner magazine stands, Flat Opera receptionist doesn't bat an eyelash as you bring a parade of girls in (hint: smile a lot and talk to the hotel staff). Open advertising offering to be in porn films with garotas quite proud to tell you about porn films they have been in.

I've never seen so many orgasms in one place before. Not the fake moans. But the screaming, thrashing multiples body spasms that messes up hair, make up, and leaves them shattered breathing too hard to talk.

Also the variety! Blondes. Brunettes, blue eyes, green, red heads, white, brown black. Can't find this in east asia.

Day 1. Called Bella for english speaking skills. Turns out all she could say was "I want to give you my a**hole! " (maybe another Bella took over? ). But it's cool. She has an english speaking manager. For an obscene amount of money (I'm embarassed to say how much), she was punctually at my door for a great french, BBBJTC, AR, no clock watching session. Never managed to make it to FS or anal even after several rounds.

Next day went to Bilbao. Expensive (now 180R including 5 drinks + dinner) but something to try at least once. Imagine the spectrum of the world's ladies (minus full east asian perhaps) parading by in sexy wear (panties were definately NOT part of anybody's uniform). Best part is that the girl's are respectful, do not attack you in droves looking for drinks like in Bangkok bars, waiters actually discourage buying girls drinks. Waiter will also help you make a selection. When a selection is being chosen, hands and kissing can be part of the process if she likes you (hint: foot massage). That's when the pantyless world becomes a gift from heaven. Maybe it's just me. But the ladies seem really into having things done to their rear ends here even in public (hint: start softly).

Picked a dazzling blonde named Bianca (something different from Asia) for an even more obscene amount for overnight. Didn't make it to FS with this one either.

Too broke now for high end (though may call Bella for goodbye session). So maybe try out privees, low end strip clubs tomorrow. Resting tonight (getting too old for too much punishment).

One last thought: you can smoke cigars in the clubs here! Smokes, drinks, babes. Just sitting here puffing whether I can organize a session of eating fejoada off a garota?

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Thanks for that report. I have a couple of questions. When you write Bilbao, do you mean Bomboa? You mentioned Jd. America - is it open again?

Thanks,
GK

Brugal8
06-05-08, 14:38
Dear mongers,

It is my great pleasure to inform you that the owner of the now closed bahamas (oscar maroni) has opened a new place touch cafe with the same concept as bahamas as far as prices, top quality in girls and of course top prices (R$120 entrance fee).

The only thing is, it's located in the city of sao jose dos campos.

But if the girls look good I think distance is not a factor for a monger.

Brugal

Genghis Khan
06-05-08, 16:04
Dear mongers,

It is my great pleasure to inform you that the owner of the now closed bahamas (oscar maroni) has opened a new place touch cafe with the same concept as bahamas as far as prices, top quality in girls and of course top prices (R$120 entrance fee).

The only thing is, it's located in the city of sao jose dos campos.

But if the girls look good I think distance is not a factor for a monger.

Brugal

Name, address and hours of operation? I will check it out shortly and report back. Thanks for this great news.

GI

Mastodon
06-05-08, 20:53
Gk. Yes! It's Bamboa, not Bilbao (as you can see from my previous posts, my memory for names and spelling leaves much room for improvement; maybe it's early stage Alzeimhers? ).

Took a daily jog (OK, weekly jog, but we all need our little illusions don't we? ) to check out Jardine America and Donna Café. Went right by JA and didn't even see an old sign (forgot street number but went from 800 to start of A. Gabriel Monteiro da Silva). D has been revamped as Bon Vivant (www.barbonvivant.com). Only two cleaning ladies were there when I jogged by. But interior looks very good, even better than Bamboa. From what I think I understand from hand language: entrance fee is 40R plus maybe minimum drinks (sounds too low, huh? ), no rooms, and no bar fine to take garotas out. I think I might have misunderstood?

Cho. Many thanks for the suggestions, going to place accross from Opera now for a late afternoon cigar and caprinha (sp) and to contemplate tonight's schedule.

Left a messages with Patricia Kimberly and Paula Butt (whose flat is nearby) but no return calls yet. If nothing from either one, then considering taking a taxi to Clinic Kin and booking Paula.

Then perhaps a nice Japanese or Brazilian dinner followed by late drinks plus maybe another garota from Bon Vivant or the Agusta clubs?

This forum has been a wonderful source of critical info. My sincere thanks once again!

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Breast Is Best
06-05-08, 23:12
If you want a wingman GK I am back in Sampa in 3 weeks and happy to assist in giving the place the opening it dreamed of..

Brugal8
06-06-08, 00:03
Name, address and hours of operation? I will check it out shortly and report back. Thanks for this great news.

GI

It's located in front of the UNIVAP college in Urbanova

It starts from 7 till last client.

Entrance 120 reais with 60 reais of drinks.

Programa my infos (not positive of it) is: 300 reais for 3 hours.

Hope this helps.

Hopefully reports will come

Brugal

Sexy Boy
06-06-08, 01:02
I would like to know if in Sao Paulo I could find Chinese or Japanese hookers. Any recommendation is appreciated.

Mastodon
06-06-08, 02:50
Never did make it to Bon Vivant or the Augusta clubs. Decided to take a taxi to Clinica Kin for Hanah. When I called to book and recep could see I couldn't speak portugese, she put me to Hanah directly.

Hanah's english is beautiful and for some reason, I was unusually looking forward to meeting her. When I saw her, the chemistry just overflowed. I've done a fair bit of mongering over the years. But something special was happening here.

She wouldn't be for everyone. She's tall and has deep dark eyes. Those into young blonds or mulattas with meat would best look for others. But she was something special for.

She's aware of her reports on the ISG. Indeed I encouraged her to sign up and contribute to the thread since her english is so good (and because she might have some good advice).

Will be seeing her again tomorrow before I fly off.

Thanks again to all for the advice which really made my trip!

Genghis Khan
06-06-08, 07:03
It's located in front of the UNIVAP college in Urbanova

It starts from 7 till last client.

Entrance 120 reais with 60 reais of drinks.

Programa my infos (not positive of it) is: 300 reais for 3 hours.

Hope this helps.

Hopefully reports will come

Brugal

Still open Saturday and Sunday nights?

GK

Genghis Khan
06-06-08, 07:05
If you want a wingman GK I am back in Sampa in 3 weeks and happy to assist in giving the place the opening it dreamed of..

OK, how do I contact you?

GK

Nabradi
06-06-08, 19:33
I've seen her photo posted on a couple sites but always with the same name.
Anyone familiar with this agency, and specifically this girl?
I keep hearing my little voice saying "If it looks too good to be true, it probably IS."
But the fact the same name is always associated with the photo gives me hope.

LC

I would not take a chance on that one! I looked in GPGuia and one report says she was terrible, a true ripoff. Two other reports show that she stood up the clients. With a record like that why take a chance. Look at PGGuia and chose someone with a long list of positives. If you are totally without any portugese, look in these ISG reports and follow somebody's recommendations.
Good luck!

Madossa
06-06-08, 20:48
The website and this girls became very popular in the past months. I dont know, but anyone ever seen one of the girls?

Java Man
06-06-08, 21:28
Google Maps based so you can zoom in. For SP, Rio, Belo Horizonte, Campinas, Curitiba, Londrina, and Porto Alegre.
Contains Termas, Boates, Clinicas, etc., with links to reviews at GPGuia.
thanks to Voyager1 for finding it.
http://bitchmaps.com/index_en.html

Nabradi
06-07-08, 02:28
As mentioned in my earlier report, photos of Patricia Kimberly taken in her apt after I had fucked her.

I have a question about Patricia Kimberly. To Goatboy or anyone else who had a session with her recently.
Her Contactos website says she does not smoke. But one report on GPGuia said she does (and was negative because of that)

I really hate smoking and a woman with tobacco on her breath. Did you notice anything of the sort? If she does smoke and it is apparent, than I don't want to even try to contact her when I am in SP.

Please help me with that.
Thanks

Sky Ryder
06-07-08, 06:52
I have heard from a friend that O'Malley's has reopened and is back in form from a couple of years ago. It had really gone down hill the last year or so. I wanted to see if anyone had dropped in for a drink and what your opinion about the "new" O'Malley's.
Remember it is important to "know where you drink"....and monger!

Madossa
06-07-08, 09:26
Anyone know them or their girls? www.classebrasil.com - They said they are leading in the SP area.

A158
06-07-08, 16:25
Dear mongers,

It is my great pleasure to inform you that the owner of the now closed bahamas (oscar maroni) has opened a new place touch cafe with the same concept as bahamas as far as prices, top quality in girls and of course top prices (R$120 entrance fee).

The only thing is, it's located in the city of sao jose dos campos.

But if the girls look good I think distance is not a factor for a monger.

BrugalHello Brugal8,

I am currently at SJDC on my last two days. Do you have more information about this place? I don't know anything about Bahamas so any information will be of great value.

Cheers,

TM

Brugal8
06-08-08, 13:45
Hello Brugal8,

I am currently at SJDC on my last two days. Do you have more information about this place? I don't know anything about Bahamas so any information will be of great value.

Cheers,

TM
It's located in front of the UNIVAP college in Urbanova

It starts from 7 till last client.

Entrance 120 reais with 60 reais of drinks.

Programa my infos (not positive of it) is: 300 reais for 3 hours.

Hope this helps.

Hopefully reports will come

Brugal

Libert
06-08-08, 13:58
I tried my first SP streetwalker yesterday, picking up a girl from near the Se Cathedral. She was kind of pretty, and said the fee was R100. I thought this was a little steep, but I accepted anyway, since it included the hotel too (a 30 second walk away). I paid the desk clerk, who then gave the girl R90, so I'm assuming the hotel was only R10. Pretty gross place. The girl had a decent body, but absolutely would NOT let me kiss her breasts. I was allowed to touch her with my hands, but she clearly didn't like it. No kissing anywhere, even shoulders! Several times she suggested more money would get me more time. Missionary position only. A real dud. On a lighter note, I thought she was applying KY before we started. After I looked at, it turned out be Athlete's foot cream!

Anyone out there had better luck with this type of girl? For this kind of situation, the price seemed really high. Any thoughts on that?

El Greco
06-08-08, 16:30
Google Maps based so you can zoom in. For SP, Rio, Belo Horizonte, Campinas, Curitiba, Londrina, and Porto Alegre.
Contains Termas, Boates, Clinicas, etc., with links to reviews at GPGuia.
thanks to Voyager1 for finding it.
http://bitchmaps.com/index_en.html

Great tool. Thank you very much.
I was in need for that info on Porto Alegre and Curitiba.

Sui Generis
06-09-08, 06:18
I tried my first SP streetwalker yesterday, picking up a girl from near the Se Cathedral. She was kind of pretty, and said the fee was R100. I thought this was a little steep, but I accepted anyway, since it included the hotel too (a 30 second walk away). I paid the desk clerk, who then gave the girl R90, so I'm assuming the hotel was only R10. Pretty gross place. The girl had a decent body, but absolutely would NOT let me kiss her breasts. I was allowed to touch her with my hands, but she clearly didn't like it. No kissing anywhere, even shoulders! Several times she suggested more money would get me more time. Missionary position only. A real dud. On a lighter note, I thought she was applying KY before we started. After I looked at, it turned out be Athlete's foot cream!

Anyone out there had better luck with this type of girl? For this kind of situation, the price seemed really high. Any thoughts on that?

You should read the report I wrote a couple of months (November 2007) ago on the trash scene in São Paulo. I was fortunate enough to visit the trash scene with seasoned (and completely crazy) local hobbyists (from the well known national forum), a sunny saturday afternoon.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=667440&postcount=1218

As me passed by the street workers near Catedral da Sé (Praça Mendes), I was warned by my friends of sin that SW are cold as a block of ice. So, I believe that you received a normal treatment. It's kind of sad because some of the SW are very good looking but we cannot expect more from them. A thing is sure; you won't find any namoradinha (GFE) among SW.

Libert
06-10-08, 20:15
Thanks for the information; your report was very helpful. After 8 months here, I'm beginning to learn my way around, but still have a lot to learn (which is one of the reasons I like this city)!


You should read the report I wrote a couple of months (November 2007) ago on the trash scene in São Paulo. I was fortunate enough to visit the trash scene with seasoned (and completely crazy) local hobbyists (from the well known national forum), a sunny saturday afternoon.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=667440&postcount=1218

As me passed by the street workers near Catedral da Sé (Praça Mendes), I was warned by my friends of sin that SW are cold as a block of ice. So, I believe that you received a normal treatment. It's kind of sad because some of the SW are very good looking but we cannot expect more from them. A thing is sure; you won't find any namoradinha (GFE) among SW.

Brugal8
06-12-08, 14:34
The website for this elite place is already being developed:

www.touchcafe.com.br

Sky Ryder
06-12-08, 19:57
It had been quite a while since I visited Sao Paulo and I got a big dose of "sticker shock".
After a nice dinner at a local resturant, it was time to venture out for some "big city Brazil" ladies.
I asked the cabbie if he knew what clubs were still closed and he told me a few, many of which I didn't know.
Went to Bomboa and walked in for about two minutes, and then was told it was $180R for entrance fee......I almost passed out. I thought he meant if included 30 mins. with a lady, but no just a drink tab.....didn't stay, told him it was too much. The place had lots of ladies from what I saw, but was full of guys as well.
Went to Kilt and Voage across the street. Both have reasonable entrance fees, and there were a few cuties at Kilt and three I was interested in at Voage. One of the girls at Kilt told me that the price to leave the club was at least 300 pesos. All I could think of maybe until they go to Love Story and leave for half of that...she agreed that was the case.
I wound up taking two "newbies" home to the tune of 400R for the pair, but that is another story for another time. One of the most curious things happened to me at the hotel, and when I have time I will post it.

Off Road
06-12-08, 21:46
Went to Kilt and Voage across the street. Both have reasonable entrance fees, and there were a few cuties at Kilt and three I was interested in at Voage. One of the girls at Kilt told me that the price to leave the club was at least 300 pesos. All I could think of maybe until they go to Love Story and leave for half of that...she agreed that was the case.
Vagõn Plaza is across from the Kilt (I think that was what you were refering to. Kilt has R$30 entrance fee and also an exit fee (or a drink) to let a girl leave with you. The girls can leave after 4 for free on their own, else they have to pay the fee. As with all places in brazil, prices for the girls are negoitable. R$200 for a girl at Kilt is about average.

Buffer
06-13-08, 17:35
Sky -

The 300R at Kilt does sound strange. As recently as 1 - 1.5 years ago, I took several girls from there for a couple of hours in the hotel and they took 150R and 200R after asking for more. As we seasoned mongers know, they all ask the gringo/sucker price, but will settle on the real price.

I was in Sao Paulo last week and took 2 garotas out of My Love and 2 garotas out of Big Ben, all on different nights (4 sessions). These clubs are within a block of Kilt. They all asked for 200R for 2 hours in my hotel, but readily agreed to my offer of 150R plus taxi fare (20R) after some discussion. I was happy with all of their performances.

Smokers Rule
06-13-08, 23:19
I was in Kilt in March. 150R was my price. She was hot too.

Nabradi
06-13-08, 23:55
I try this question again.

Has anyone had a session with Patricia Kimberly recently? You Goatboy had a positive report. But here is my question:

Her Contactos website says she does not smoke. But one report on GPGuia said she does (and was negative because of that)

I really hate smoking and a woman with tobacco on her breath. Did you notice anything of the sort? If she does smoke and it is apparent, than I would not even try to contact her when I am in SP. But if she indeed does not smoke, I ssure want to fuck her. She is my type!

Someone please help me with this question. Goatboy, are you around:?
Thanks

Goatboy55
06-14-08, 08:18
I try this question again.

Has anyone had a session with Patricia Kimberly recently? You Goatboy had a positive report. But here is my question:

Her Contactos website says she does not smoke. But one report on GPGuia said she does (and was negative because of that)

I really hate smoking and a woman with tobacco on her breath. Did you notice anything of the sort? If she does smoke and it is apparent, than I would not even try to contact her when I am in SP. But if she indeed does not smoke, I ssure want to fuck her. She is my type!

Someone please help me with this question. Goatboy, are you around:?
ThanksI can't say whether she smokes or not - when I met her she had just had a shower and brushed her teeth (it was around midday) - so she smelt and tasted fantastic.

Sky Ryder
06-14-08, 18:38
Buffer,

Thanks for the info. I assume the My Love is the same as Love Story, but I am not familar with Big Ben. Can you share a little info? There used to be a lot of good action at O'Malley's but I haven't heard anything since they reopened.

Sky

Tommy America
06-14-08, 19:43
Buffer,

Thanks for the info. I assume the My Love is the same as Love Story, but I am not familar with Big Ben. Can you share a little info? There used to be a lot of good action at O'Malley's but I haven't heard anything since they reopened.

SkyMy Love and Love Story are two very different clubs. My Love is across the street from Kilt --- I have browsed there a few times and find I always end up back in Kilt. The girls in My Love seem a bit more "detached" then do the ones in Kilt.

I have not been in Big Ben for a few years. I browsed it several times in the past, but each time I found it was absolutely dead and empty.

In that vicinity, I always find myself back at Kilt (although, in fairness, Kilt has gone way downhill sice Tania --- the original owner --- sold it a few years back).

Cho 637
06-15-08, 05:52
Buffer,

Thanks for the info. I assume the My Love is the same as Love Story, but I am not familar with Big Ben. Can you share a little info? There used to be a lot of good action at O'Malley's but I haven't heard anything since they reopened.

Sky

My Love and Love Story are 2 different places.

Genghis Khan
06-16-08, 08:08
I read a while ago on this board that Love Story was closed. What is the current status?

GK

Buffer
06-16-08, 17:33
Sky -

As mentioned, My Love is directly across the street from Kilt. It is next to Vagõn Plaza. Big Ben is down the hill from Kilt on Rua Agusta. It´s maybe 1.5 blocks from Kilt.

Ricker
06-16-08, 20:30
I read a while ago on this board that Love Story was closed. What is the current status?

GK

Though I didn't enter, I was with my new namorada :) ... we passed by it the other night and it appeared open.

Ricker
06-16-08, 20:38
Well it finally happened ... I met a garota, a normal girl at one of the malls a few weeks ago. We chatted for a while, etc, etc, getting to know eachother.
I had a great feeling about her.

Told her I wasn't coming back to SP for a couple weeks, but that I'd call her to keep in touch.
I was actually going to Colombia for a week or so to play around (of course I didn't tell her that).

Anyway, I returned to SP and was just with her for the last few days. What a SWEETHEART!!
She just blew away my theory of the Colombiana being far sweeter and loving than the Brasilera.

Best part is, she is wild in bed like only a Brasilera.

Almotu
06-23-08, 03:24
It has always surprised me that there seem to be no monger orientated apartment rentals in Sao Paulo unlike in Rio. With hotel rooms going for $80-130usd per night, I am hoping to find a source for renting a 2 bdrm apartment for around the same price. I can share it with my wingman and keep the savings for pounding garotas instead LOL! Anybody knows of any such situation from experience?

RexG
06-25-08, 17:30
I am in Rio now having left Sao Paulo after a short stay of three days. While in Sao Paulo, I tried a mulata, Samira Radazi, who advertises her services at pimp.com.br. This girl is notable in that she is every bit as lovely as her photos. So many times these girls show up being 10 kilos heavier then their photos suggest. I knew I was taking a risk with Samira -- I had seen no reviews on her. When she arrived I thought I had hit the jackpot, but alas, it was not to be. She looked great, but her performance was nothing to write home about. It started out well enough. She removed her clothes to reveal a nearly perfect body with fine natural breasts. She doesn´t shave her thighs and they are covered with very fine, downy hair. I find that to be very sexy. The first sign of dashed hopes was her reluctance to kiss, followed by body language that told me she was not really into our session. Perhaps others will have better luck with this girl, but I found it difficult to get a solid hard-on. At my advancing age, this did a psychological number on me. If I couldn´t get it up in the presence of such a beautiful girl, had I finally reached the point where I could no longer perform? Things went down hill from there, although I did manage a half-hearted cum from my semi-soft dick. As she left, she exhibited the usual bad habits of trying to raid my minibar and then asking for an exhorbitant taxi fare. Good riddance.

On Saturday, I returned to Bomboa, one of my favorite haunts. As reported earlier, the prices are outrageous -- R$180 entry fee plus R$80 for a room. I took my time while I was there. I wanted to survey the scene thoroughly before making a choice. And I ate my dinner there in a modest effort to recoup some of the entry fee. The food was not memorable, but it was filling. Gradually I narrowed my search to three -- a very tall mulatta, a 28 year old mother with an incredible ass, and a tiny 46KG dynamo named Anita. I settled on Anita and she was great. She has a fantastic little body, marred only by artifical tits, and she has very kissable pouty lips. My fears of getting too old quicky vanished. She had me fully hard while we were still in foreplay on the couch. I knew I had made a good choice and we proceeded to a room. The session was great and she managed to make me cum twice. I love the way this girl kisses. In conversation I lamented that Bomboa would be closed on Sunday, my last day in SP. Anita suggested that she come my hotel (Mercure Jardins). She arrived on time Sunday night at 9PM. We fucked, had room service, and fucked some more. Great girl. No hassles with the minibar. No hustling for taxi money. I recommend her highly.

A final note on Bomboa. I actually paid R$135 when I left, not R$180. There was a R$45 credit on my bill. Since nobody at the desk spoke English, I don´t understand this credit, but, of course, I didn´t argue. Perhaps they credit some money back if you take a girl to a room.

HoleRanger
06-28-08, 02:47
Need a little help gents, I'am considering a job offer in SP. I have been to Rio a few times but never to SP. To have a middle class lifestyle there, what would be a decent income? I don't need lavish surroundings but to be comfortable (1 bdrm apt, utilities, public transportation, eat out a few times a week, some fun money etc.). Possibly living in the outskirts of the city but within a short commute to the downtown area.

It appears to be an expensive area. Thanks in advance for your comments.

Genghis Khan
06-30-08, 23:36
Anybody in SP at the moment who would like to meet?

GK

Breast Is Best
07-01-08, 20:40
Anybody in SP at the moment who would like to meet?

GKThat sucks GK. I just arrived in Rio this morning from SP (after having my SDU plane diverted helpfully to GIG due to fog) otherwise I would have been very keen to hook up. Next time I hope.

I had an amazing time on Sunday with an old favorita, who was a star on this board 2 years back and who is now 'going straight' other than the occasional sake and kiwi fruit caipi fuelled binge afternoons with yours truly. Just a taste of pretty much the very best this great country has to offer. Damn I love Sampa.

DrLudo
07-04-08, 02:25
Anybody in SP at the moment who would like to meet?

GKHi Gengis,

I would be delighted to go for a night out with you in SP. I got here yesterday and will leave on Monday evening.

Let me know how to contact you.

DrLudo

Genghis Khan
07-09-08, 10:30
Hi Gengis,

I would be delighted to go for a night out with you in SP. I got here yesterday and will leave on Monday evening.

Let me know how to contact you.

DrLudo

Sorry but I am not there anymore now.

GK

Sm Player
07-10-08, 02:33
I can confirm that at least today, the Itaiaia building is closed. It might be because today is a local SP holiday. I wandered over to Kilt, but the 3 or 4 dancers there looked remarkably unenthusiastic.

For business reasons, I'm staying in Morumbi, which is about as far from the action as it seems one can be and still be in the same city. As I'm always hesitant to bring chicas back to my room, does anyone know if there are any clinicas or prives in this area. Oh yea, to make matters even worse, I have no portuguese.

Thanks in advance,

-SM Player

Mountfuji
07-10-08, 17:33
Dear All,

It has been awhile since I've been back to SP. What places are still open? Are Bahamas and Millenium shut down still? It seems like Bomboa is still open. Any other recommendations?

Thanks

Sui Generis
07-10-08, 21:03
I can confirm that at least today, the Itaiaia building is closed. It might be because today is a local SP holiday. I wandered over to Kilt, but the 3 or 4 dancers there looked remarkably unenthusiastic.

For business reasons, I'm staying in Morumbi, which is about as far from the action as it seems one can be and still be in the same city. As I'm always hesitant to bring chicas back to my room, does anyone know if there are any clinicas or prives in this area. Oh yea, to make matters even worse, I have no portuguese.

Thanks in advance,

-SM Player

You're not too far from clinica Kin and PHQ1 (privê).

Jake993
07-10-08, 21:47
Looks like I am headed to Brazil again in a few weeks and will likely spend a few nights in Sao Paulo. While I have heard about the legendary Cafe Photo (and even been with a girl who used to work there) I have never experienced it for myself. I know it's expensive but for a one-timer it might be a cool experience. If anyone has been there recently (past 8 months) can you please take a stab at the following questions?

1. What's the dress code for the best experience (jeans? business casual? coat and tie?)?

2. Is it ok to just "show up" or is this the sort of thing I need to reserve a table or a place for.

3. IS it all just one place or is it many different club within a club? And if so, which is the one where there's the best action?

4. Is this automatically going to cost me a fortune or is this just urban legend?

Thanks guys,

Jake

Tommy America
07-10-08, 23:15
My experiences there ("your mileage may vary"):

1. Business casual (the girls tend to dress up a bit more here than other clubs)

2. Show up -- no reservation necessary

3. Basically, it is a single club on three floors. There is a private "VIP Club", but it is nothing worth investigating. "floating" between the first and second flors always worked well for me.

4. "Fortune" is relative. Figure on spending about $200BR for admission, drinks, etc. Girls will generally start by asking for $600BR, but many will settle for something closer to $400BR if you treat them as ladies --- be nice, show respect, and treat them well.

I have never felt disappointed in any experience at Photo.


Looks like I am headed to Brazil again in a few weeks and will likely spend a few nights in Sao Paulo. While I have heard about the legendary Cafe Photo (and even been with a girl who used to work there) I have never experienced it for myself. I know it's expensive but for a one-timer it might be a cool experience. If anyone has been there recently (past 8 months) can you please take a stab at the following questions?

1. What's the dress code for the best experience (jeans? business casual? coat and tie?)?

2. Is it ok to just "show up" or is this the sort of thing I need to reserve a table or a place for.

3. IS it all just one place or is it many different club within a club? And if so, which is the one where there's the best action?

4. Is this automatically going to cost me a fortune or is this just urban legend?

Thanks guys,

Jake

Tommy America
07-10-08, 23:16
Cafe Gauguin


I can confirm that at least today, the Itaiaia building is closed. It might be because today is a local SP holiday. I wandered over to Kilt, but the 3 or 4 dancers there looked remarkably unenthusiastic.

For business reasons, I'm staying in Morumbi, which is about as far from the action as it seems one can be and still be in the same city. As I'm always hesitant to bring chicas back to my room, does anyone know if there are any clinicas or prives in this area. Oh yea, to make matters even worse, I have no portuguese.

Thanks in advance,

SM Player

Rss910
07-11-08, 02:50
Looks like I am headed to Brazil again in a few weeks and will likely spend a few nights in Sao Paulo. While I have heard about the legendary Cafe Photo (and even been with a girl who used to work there) I have never experienced it for myself. I know it's expensive but for a one-timer it might be a cool experience. If anyone has been there recently (past 8 months) can you please take a stab at the following questions?

1. What's the dress code for the best experience (jeans? business casual? coat and tie?)?

2. Is it ok to just "show up" or is this the sort of thing I need to reserve a table or a place for.

3. IS it all just one place or is it many different club within a club? And if so, which is the one where there's the best action?

4. Is this automatically going to cost me a fortune or is this just urban legend?

Thanks guys,

Jake1. No real strict dress code. I've been there twice. Both times wearing tshirt, jeans and sneakers.

2. Definitely just show up.

3. I've only been to three floors.

4. I've been lucky to get free entrance through someone I know. But the girls are typically R$500 TLN.

Honestly, it's just another place to me. A little overpriced. The girls look great at first because of the "James Bond" evening dresses and atmosphere. But when you take them home...they usually don't seem as hot. I think you are making it out to be something more than it is. But check it out.

Sm Player
07-11-08, 04:40
Some friends took me to Gaugin tonight, which to my surprise and delight is literally across the street from the Hilton where I'm staying. Lots of stunning garotas of most every shape and size.

I eventually met a truly gorgeous girl whose name as close as I can make out is Ailea (pronounce eye-LEE-ah), I think. She's a slim and medium height (5'8"? ) blonde from the South who looks like a better-looking Heather Graham. She speaks no English, and I no Portuguese, so my friend closed the deal on my behalf.

Back to my room where she was all beauty and charm, if an average sexual partner. Still, to have someone that beautiful all over me was a delight. My first true trophy fuck. CBJ followed by Mish, Doggy, Cowgirl, Reverse Cowgirl, plus a position or two that I have no idea what to call.

Spazzio
07-11-08, 14:22
Hi; just left Sp for some days busniess.

Is alot of poblems in SP for High end clubs, and many is closed or move to to other locations.

Be sure, wher you like to go. Name of club, check adress and ask hotels. The taxi drivers is all most not are updatet all over SP.

Cafe foto is open and go like normal.

New Romanca, is good. And have alot of good lookings girls. If you are good to speak some portogues and take it easy. You have got top girls down to 200. 300 R. But normal they ask for 500 R up. I think 300 R have to max. Most of the woman go for this if they like you.

Good luck.

Genghis Khan
07-11-08, 15:14
After an absence to the city of magic of more than a year it was finally time to come back to my favourite hunting ground. Although my regular spots W.E. and Bahamas had been shut down, my favourite namorada Miss F had married, left town and retired from the business and the Madame I used to set up high end escorts with had been arrested, I was pretty confident that this trip would turn out to be just as pleasurable as my other visits.

I arrived at Guarulhos on a Sunday around 17:00. The flight was on time. There was no line at the immigration control and generally a pleasure to be at this normally very stressful airport. When I went over to pick up my luggage life seemed to smile at me. I had made arrangements with a taxi driver to take me around Sao Paulo during my visit and he was waiting for me in the arrival hall to take me to my hotel and then to dinner with a new fresh girl who had been recommended to me by a friend. Then things start to go wrong. Where the FU** was my luggage? Apparently it was left behind and would not arrive until the next day at the same time with the similar flight. I was not happy! 14 hours of travel and then no possibility to change clothes until the same time the next day. That thought did not appeal to me but what could I do? Nothing!

When I entered the arrival hall my taxi driver was waiting with a sign with my name on it and turned out to be a very friendly guy. He took a look at his watch and told me that we would just have time enough for me to check in to my hotel before we had to go pick up my date for the evening.

The taxi ride from the airport to my hotel was thankfully peaceful without the normal SP traffic chaos. When I arrived at Hotel Gran Estanplaza in Berrini they had prepared my normal room. I have stayed at this hotel three times now and they have always given me the same room. I like this hotel because of its location next door to Cafe Gauguin, Shopping D&D (where most of my needed supplies are available), Torre Norte where they have a cambio with what is to my knowledge the best exchange rates in town and generally close to the night spots, bars and restaurants in the Vila Olimpia, Vila Nova Conceicao and Moema neighbourhoods. The fact that the hotel is just a few years old, very beautiful both inside and outside, very girl friendly and with balconies outside all the rooms makes this my number one choice in town. The price is somewhat lower than the other high end hotels like Emiliano, Unique, Grand Hyatt and Fasano.

After I had checked in, I showered, shaved and tried to freshen up as much as possible before putting the same clothes back on. Then I headed down to the reception and met my taxi driver.

The taxi driver first headed for my date for the evenings apartment. Her name was Sabrina and her apartment was actually very close to the restaurant I had chosen for dinner - Massimo. When we arrived the taxi driver stepped out of his car, approached the front door and buzzed her bell. It took a while before she responded and the taxi driver told me that she will be ready in 5 minutes.

The girl that approaches the car five minutes later is very smartly dressed in a suite, not stunning but pretty and a big bonus is that she speaks English. I have also been told that she is very liberated when it comes to the bed related activities.

During the short drive to the restaurant and dinner we tried to get to know each other. She didn't show any passion and kept a very professional and cool distance. I somehow sensed that this was just a cover she was putting on because we were in a classy restaurant and she didn't want make unwanted attention here. She told me that she is a law student at a university in Sao Paulo and that she also studies Spanish. She has ambitions and wants to move to Spain.

Our conversation was good and she seemed like a friendly and educated girl to me but at this point she didn't spark any passion in me. She only picked slightly in her food and is obviously not very hungry although she seemed to enjoy the wine I ordered. When we left the restaurant the bill amounts to about R$400, - which included one bottle of white wine, my Camaraoes in coconut milk and her pasta. We are the last diners and since we don't want dessert the staff at the restaurant wraps a whole cake from the dessert trolley and sends it with us into the night absolutely free of charge.

In the car Sabrina started to hint more at her reputed bedroom personality. She told me that she was very eager to refresh my memory of why I love the Brasileiras so much.

Normally when you enter this hotel you have to sign the girl in for security reasons but when the night watch saw me, he recognized me from my previous visits and told us that we didn't have to sign Sabrina in. Once inside my room I was dying to get out of the clothes and into the shower while Sabrina had something to drink. When I was finished she wanted to take a shower herself.

Let me tell you right away that this girl really knew how to give a BBBJ. Deep throat all the way down. I usually have a really hard time popping but with this BJ it was simply a matter of time. Sabrina’s body was nice, tight and curvy at all the right places but not a 10. With that BJ I didn't care. So after about two hours of continuous BJ with some small breaks in-between to visit her other entrance, she finished me off. I managed to be a gentleman and didn't pop in her mouth though. I am not sure if she would have objected but I thought best to preserve me gentleman image and not go down that road without prior permission.

After this we fell asleep and were awaken the next morning at six o'clock when she had to leave. She left me a note with her phone number, e-mail address and a kiss on the chin before she left and I went back to sleep for a few hours.

GK

Chan Nimal
07-12-08, 16:38
I'm back in SP after a month and a half since my last visit. The last time I had the very fortunate experience of a TLN with Julia Gualter (she's changed her name again) and had a fantastic experience with this sweetheart. Everything was on the menu and sleeping next to this little beauty was wonderful.

This time around I'm contemplating calling Julia again or maybe trying Guagin. I would love to try and find a morena. Anyone have suggestions?

DoloresThomas
07-13-08, 04:53
I'm planning a trip to SP somewhere in the near future and I was wondering if mclass girls are really such fantastic revista sexy and pb destaques, or if its all scam, fake, photoshop, etc.

My question arouses because I hardly ever see mclass reports in this SP thread, and I wonder: how come mongers prefer casas and termas to downright goregous centerfolds?

Fabiola, for example, seems to be gorgeous singer Marina Elali. Is it true she's into P4P, together with Zeny Bressan and Wiliane Anastacio?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Hulk
07-13-08, 18:42
I was wondering if mclass girls are really such fantastic revista sexy and pb destaques, or if its all scam, fake, photoshop, etc.

I've had a couple bad experiences with MClass girls and have stopped looking there when I go to Sao Paulo. The pictures are not fake in the sense that the girl is the one in the picture, however, their use of photoshop is extreme to say the least. They will remove any perceived imperfection and enhance anything that's remotely good.

Member #4643
07-13-08, 19:45
I just got back from Sao Paulo, and due to the sinking (sunken) dollar, I decided to try the low end strip joints on the Rua Augusta. I remember the days when Kilts seemed cheap!!!

In any case, I was VERY pleasantly surprised. It is not hard, if you walk the seedy part of Rua Augusta, to find some fine looking ladies. That applies to the streetwalkers (whom I have yet to hook up with) to the girls in the low end bars. In virtually every bar I went into, I found I girl I would have considered pretty enough to take back to my hotel. Lots of the places have adjoining rooms for rent too, despite the crackdown on the places like Bahamas for exactly this reason.

Most of these places cost 20 reals to enter (some are 10), but you can almost always ask for one or two minutes for free to check out the girls before entering. There are a few places with nothing but ugly garotas, and it would be a shame to waste 20 reals on this! The 20 reals usually comes with two drinks. Be careful, because if you order scotch or any otherforeign liquor, you will be charged outrageous prices. The 20 reals covers beers or caiparinhas.

Speaking passable Portuguese is a plus, but never necessary.

Next time I am in Sao Paulo, I intend to make the Rua Augusta my primary place of operation. I prefer to talk to the girl before taking her home over M class or any of the other sites anyway, and the cost is much less (still plenty of 200 real or less girls out there).

BionicMan
07-13-08, 21:44
I've had a couple bad experiences with MClass girls and have stopped looking there when I go to Sao Paulo. The pictures are not fake in the sense that the girl is the one in the picture, however, their use of photoshop is extreme to say the least. They will remove any perceived imperfection and enhance anything that's remotely good.

Definetely agreeing! Had 3 experiences...they tend to rush, despite I clearly made a point about this my friend who knows very well one fo them (I had her the year before for a week and she was 7 in performance, bit mechanical routine and when you have this for 4-5 nights...:((
They indeed tend to use Photoshop (the first one admitted clearly about that). Might be one of the services provided by the wite:)

Voyajer1
07-13-08, 23:24
Don't forget about the budget spots on Consolacao: The Relax Bar, Deusas and many others lining the street. They are less than 5 blocks from Rua Augusta. There are so many other spots to mention in that neighborhood, it would take a lot of time to explain. My next trip I will be staying near all the action in that area and I will report what I find out. Don't forget that you have to mention, besides the boites, a few thousand private houses, "clinics", and many other options that are the equivalent of a 24 hour buffet of choices. Day and night, Sao Paolo has something for even the pickiest monger on this board without resorting to the ridiculously overpriced web-based, image altering, individual escorts. It is a matter of value for me; why pay one girl R200 or R300 for one girl you don't know when you can have 3 or 4 for the same price, not to mention you can see, touch, smell, talk to, before making a final decision to spend money and sample her goods? On top of that, many will give you their number and meet you anywhere if you really enjoy her and viceversa. I'd say out of every 5 providers, at least 3 will want to meet you elsewhere. Next month, Brazil, here I come. I can't wait!

I just got back from Sao Paulo, and due to the sinking (sunken) dollar, I decided to try the low end strip joints on the Rua Augusta. I remember the days when Kilts seemed cheap!!!

In any case, I was VERY pleasantly surprised. It is not hard, if you walk the seedy part of Rua Augusta, to find some fine looking ladies. That applies to the streetwalkers (whom I have yet to hook up with) to the girls in the low end bars. In virtually every bar I went into, I found I girl I would have considered pretty enough to take back to my hotel. Lots of the places have adjoining rooms for rent too, despite the crackdown on the places like Bahamas for exactly this reason.

Most of these places cost 20 reals to enter (some are 10), but you can almost always ask for one or two minutes for free to check out the girls before entering. There are a few places with nothing but ugly garotas, and it would be a shame to waste 20 reals on this! The 20 reals usually comes with two drinks. Be careful, because if you order scotch or any otherforeign liquor, you will be charged outrageous prices. The 20 reals covers beers or caiparinhas.

Speaking passable Portuguese is a plus, but never necessary.

Next time I am in Sao Paulo, I intend to make the Rua Augusta my primary place of operation. I prefer to talk to the girl before taking her home over M class or any of the other sites anyway, and the cost is much less (still plenty of 200 real or less girls out there).

Ricker
07-14-08, 15:47
...
most of these places cost 20 reals to enter (some are 10), but you can almost always ask for one or two minutes for free to check out the girls before entering. there are a few places with nothing but ugly garotas, and it would be a shame to waste 20 reals on this! the 20 reals usually comes with two drinks. be careful, because if you order scotch or any otherforeign liquor, you will be charged outrageous prices. the 20 reals covers beers or caiparinhas ...

right on amigo!!

i´ll add that if they won´t let me take a peek before paying the cover charge, i pass on the place.
i´ve found that there´s usually a reason not to let you take a peek ... i.e. ugly garotas. :)

Wandering Fool
07-16-08, 05:46
I've sampled the girls and establishments in several cities in Brasil but not SP. I'm just curious, given huge differential in price for the girls between the high end clubs (600r) and lower end establishments what you really get for all that money in SP?

I already know from experience that performance can be great or mediocre at both ends of the spectrum so that's a wash.

Ok, so I'm sure the ambience of the hi end clubs counts for something, but once you get the girl back to your hotel that doesn't matter any more.

So it really comes down to looks.

So, are the high end clubs the only place to find the 9's and 10's and everywhere else is 8's and below?

One more question, if I may. Have you guys noticed any decline in the quality of girls at the high end clubs over the last 5 or so years? I definitely saw this happen in Rio over that time (Centaurs, for example, completely lost it).

Voyajer1
07-16-08, 14:48
Having had the opportunity to go to the high and low end establishments (R600 - R1000 per session + extras), I must say it is just a matter of value and time, how you balance and use either your money or time. If you can afford the services of a high end provider without breaking a sweat, go for it. But in my humble opinion, there really isn't that much difference in the level of performance. Yes, the high level places do provide more 9's and 10's than a low end establishments, however, many of the low end establishments do have 9's and 10's as well. If you have an ample supply of time, I'd say go to as many low end establishments so you can see for yourself what they have to offer. If you have no time and wish to get busy with that 9 or 10 + knockout, then you better hit the high end establishment as soon as you hit the ground. It will cost you an arm and a leg, but you will be happy you got the opportunity to get serviced by someone that looks like she came out out of a high fashion magazine. If you have the time, like I do on my many travels, I make a list of places to hit and I hit as many as I can. I usually find 5 or 6 real knockouts along the way who perform above and beyond my expectations. Of course, they get my repeat business, maybe an overnight stay at my hotel, and they get all my money (No more than R250 + cabfare); but the memories last a lifetime. The last time there (Dec 07) I'd never seen so many 8+'s in both Rio or Sao Paolo, I'd chalk that up to needing money for the holidays. In my opinion, the quality of providers is going up, not down. But that is just me.

I've sampled the girls and establishments in several cities in Brasil but not SP. I'm just curious, given huge differential in price for the girls between the high end clubs (600r) and lower end establishments what you really get for all that money in SP?

I already know from experience that performance can be great or mediocre at both ends of the spectrum so that's a wash.

Ok, so I'm sure the ambience of the hi end clubs counts for something, but once you get the girl back to your hotel that doesn't matter any more.

So it really comes down to looks.

So, are the high end clubs the only place to find the 9's and 10's and everywhere else is 8's and below?

One more question, if I may. Have you guys noticed any decline in the quality of girls at the high end clubs over the last 5 or so years? I definitely saw this happen in Rio over that time (Centaurs, for example, completely lost it).

Jake993
07-17-08, 15:39
Some friends took me to Gaugin tonight, which to my surprise and delight is literally across the street from the Hilton where I'm staying. Lots of stunning garotas of most every shape and size.


As luck would have it, I am staying there next Thursday night so it would be silly NOT to check out Cafe Gauguin. Just for the record, is the Hilton "girl friendly". Being an American style hotel I would expect that you can go right up with your guest without question, but it never hurts to ask.

Genghis Khan
07-17-08, 16:06
I was awaken by the phone early this morning. I had set up a date with a magazine model to come to my hotel at 14:00 this afternoon and to stay 4 hours. The phone call was to inform me that she would arrive two hours earlier than planned. Since I had only brought USD with me and this girl needed to be paid in cash I had to exchange some money before she arrived. I showered and shaved and hurried down to the reception.

On my previous visit there was a cambio with great exchange rates in the neighbour building Torre Norte. As I understood it the Torre Norte was sort of a stock market building and the cambio down in the basement inside the travel agency always kept exchange rates according to the market rate. This cambio was very small and it was more than a year since I was there so instead of rushing over with a lot of cash in my pockets and risking having to walk back without any luck if the cambio wasn't there anymore I asked a receptionist where the closest cambio was. He told me that I had to go to Shopping Morumbi to exchange my dollars or they could do it at the hotel but at a very poor rate. I asked about the cambio across the street in Torre Norte but he told me that there was no cambios within walking distance. This meant that I had to skip the planned lunch at noon at the Japanese restaurant Mosaic today and instead have the taxi driver take me to Shopping Morumbi to exchange money when he was supposed to show up at around 11:30. I am a little dissappointed that I didn't check if the cambio was there before I decided to go to Shopping Morumbi because when I checked later in the week it was still there. It would have saved me both time and money to have checked this.

After the exchange was taken care of and the taxi driver had returned me to the hotel I had a small lunch at the hotel and ordered a couple of caipirinhas up to my room. Exactly on time the phone rang and the receptionist informed me that my date was waiting for me in the reception. I had to come down to sign her in.

The girl I met in the reception looked similar to the pictures I had seen in Sexy magazine but even though it was clearly the same girl, the pictures in the magazine was clearly edited to some degree. I had chosen this exact girl based on a reveiw Quackup wrote on this forum where he described her BJ as the best he had experienced. As I will come to later my experience was very different.

I signed her in and led her into the elevator and up to my room. She didn't speak any English but my Portuguese has improved over the years and since I also have a few dictionaries available I manage to comunicate with the girls pretty well when I have them face to face and body language is part of the conversation. She told me that she was a hostess for a national TV show and that the reason why she had to come early was because she had to attend this award ceremony where she was nominated as best hostess for a TV show. She seemed very friendly with great humor but she was constantly interrupting our conversation by phone calls. After a while she asked if we shouldn't go to bed. There was no kissing and no foreplay of any kind. She simply wanted me to take off my clothes while she took off hers. Then she pushed me on my back into the bed and started to give me a BBBJ. She had dental braces and she was not careful with her teeth or those braces at all. When she was finished with her BJ I had scratchmarks on my dick. Then she rolled over, spread her legs and remained in that position during the rest of the session without speaking or showing the slightest interest in what we were doing at all. I tried to get her somehow excited by going down on her but no response. After about thiry minutes of non inspirational bed activities we stopped. We actually stopped on her request because her feet was cold. She got up put on some socks anda jacket and sat down in front of the TV. Then she told me that she had to leave in about 30 minutes because of the award presentation. This was one and a half hours before the agreed time where she would leave. Then she asked me if it I would mind if she left now. She was not someone who sparked my interest anyway. I decided to make a complaint later and let her go. She got dressed and left.

Since I now had two hours more at my disposal before my dinner reservation at Fasano I went to bed.

When I woke up 2 hours later I showered and got dressed before going down to the reception where my taxi driver was waiting for me. He asked me how my date had been and I told him that I wasn't entierly satisfied although she seemed like a nice and sympatic girl.

The taxi driver took me to Fasano where I arrived about 10 minutes before they opened the restaurant. While waiting I ordred a caipirinha in their bar. After finishing my drink I was shown down to the restaurant and presented the menu. I was a little dissapointed by the menu because all my favourite selections was taken off the menu. I ordered Beluga caviar as a starter and filet mignon filled with foie gras and truffle sauce as the main course. My wine selection was a bottle of Amarone. As usual this restaurant turned my meal into a great experience. The bill was less than I normally spend here but still R$900.

Two hours after I entered the restaurant I was picked up again by my taxi driver as agreed and he took me to Garden Club on Rua Alvorada 550, Vila Olimpia.

When I entered Garden Club it was 22:30. This is not the ideal time to arrive and the place was packed. I still managed to get a table by the entrance so I could follow all the girls entering and leaving while still having a great view of the girls in the bar and the rest of the club. Almost immideatly as I sat down a beautiful dark morean called Anneli latched on to me. She was obviously very drunk but her playful attitude, beautiful smile and body soon convinced me that this would be my choice for the evning. We agreed on a price for all night of R$600 and she promised to deliver a great BBBJ and even stay until lunch the next day. After about two hours joking around, kissing and fondling inside the club we left and were picked up by my taxi driver who had been waiting outside. In the taxi Anneli told me that she was into any kind of sex but she was not a completa. She did not like anal sex. I really didn't care. I was just happy to be in the company with a girl that seemed to enjoy herself as much as I did and compared to the experience I had earlier that day this was heaven.

When we arrived at the hotel she had to sign in and then we were off to my suite on the top floor.

This girl obviously loved both giving and receiving oral sex and since I kind of prefer this too we kept at it for a long time. Then she steped out of the bed and wanted to receive it from behind - standing. She became very vocal and loud during sex and I think she must have inspired the couple in the neighbour room because after a while we could clearly hear that they were having a good time too. After about an hour and a half we fell asleep.

I suddenly woke up in the middle of the night. I was on lying on my stomach with one hand stretched out. She was lying on her stomack on top of my hand with my hand between her legs. I really had no intention of another session but I was a bit uncomfortable with her on top of my arm so I started to move my hand slowly in order to try not to wake her up. While I did this I noticed that she became more and more wet. This horny girl was not sleeping. Suddenly she turned around and started to give me a BBBJ. After another round of more relaxed sex where she wanted to be on top most of the time we fell asleep again without a pop on my part.

The next morning I was awaken by something warm and wet around my dick. She was giving me another BBBJ.

GK

Sm Player
07-17-08, 23:32
I just walked in with her and took the elevator up to my room. No questions, no problems, very American style.


As luck would have it, I am staying there next Thursday night so it would be silly NOT to check out Cafe Gauguin. Just for the record, is the Hilton "girl friendly". Being an American style hotel I would expect that you can go right up with your guest without question, but it never hurts to ask.

Sm Player
07-17-08, 23:40
Went to Clinica Kin for a 4-hand, and chose Sabrina and another blonde who's name I think was Alie. Sabrina has some of the most delicious curves I've ever seen, and is more fun than I have words for! If you like them slim and without big curves, she's not for you. I speak no portuguese, so we decided to add in Hannah, who is as wonderful as everyone says (and has the tightest pussy of any GDP I've tried).

Given how amazing Hannah and Sabrina are, Alie was so-so at best. Not very enthusiastic, kind of dull. Sabrina is glorious. She could easily become my ATF. Hell, I was thinking about picking up the Rosetta Stone for Portuguese, and she's reason enough to learn a few words. What an amazing sexual partner, boundless energy, great oral, great DFK. Watching her and Hannah kissing while fondling both of their tits while Alie sucked me off was quite memorable.

Again, if you like curvy, bouncy, fun and high energy, try Sabrina. Oh, her picture on the website shows her with long hair. It's cut much shorter now, and very cute.

Tommy America
07-18-08, 01:32
I have never had any problems at the Hilton Morumbi.


As luck would have it, I am staying there next Thursday night so it would be silly NOT to check out Cafe Gauguin. Just for the record, is the Hilton "girl friendly". Being an American style hotel I would expect that you can go right up with your guest without question, but it never hurts to ask.

Surferr3
07-18-08, 08:00
Nice report GK.

I'm curious...... I do a lot of "corporate dinners" in the states. How do you compare the cost per person to that of the US....ie Capital Grillle, Mortons, etc....

Genghis Khan
07-18-08, 08:30
Nice report GK.

I'm curious...... I do a lot of "corporate dinners" in the states. How do you compare the cost per person to that of the US....ie Capital Grillle, Mortons, etc....

Sorry, I am European and have only visited US once many years ago - New Orleans. I would not know how to compare.

GK

Wandering Fool
07-18-08, 16:46
Having had the opportunity to go to the high and low end establishments (R600 - R1000 per session + extras), I must say it is just a matter of value and time, how you balance and use either your money or time. If you can afford the services of a high end provider without breaking a sweat, go for it. But in my humble opinion, there really isn't that much difference in the level of performance. Yes, the high level places do provide more 9's and 10's than a low end establishments, however, many of the low end establishments do have 9's and 10's as well. If you have an ample supply of time, I'd say go to as many low end establishments so you can see for yourself what they have to offer. If you have no time and wish to get busy with that 9 or 10 + knockout, then you better hit the high end establishment as soon as you hit the ground. It will cost you an arm and a leg, but you will be happy you got the opportunity to get serviced by someone that looks like she came out out of a high fashion magazine. If you have the time, like I do on my many travels, I make a list of places to hit and I hit as many as I can. I usually find 5 or 6 real knockouts along the way who perform above and beyond my expectations. Of course, they get my repeat business, maybe an overnight stay at my hotel, and they get all my money (No more than R250 + cabfare); but the memories last a lifetime. The last time there (Dec 07) I'd never seen so many 8+'s in both Rio or Sao Paolo, I'd chalk that up to needing money for the holidays. In my opinion, the quality of providers is going up, not down. But that is just me.

Thanks for your response, Voyajer. You exactly confirmed my suspicions about taking the time to find the hotties in the lower priced establishments. In fact, once in Rio I took home a 9 from help for R300 TLN who told me she normally booked out at R500 at Barbarella's (including the entry fee and mandatory drink that would be approaching R600). She was a needle in a haystack at Help but it was worth spending the time to find her there and pay less. Similar experience in Florionopolis where I found a former Playboy Bunny for R300 who booked out for double that when she was in SP.

Ricker
07-21-08, 20:09
I can confirm that at least today, the Itaiaia building is closed. It might be because today is a local SP holiday.
-SM Player

Went by the Itaiaia building the other day for a looksy and it was open and business as usual.

The hot chica I met there before wasn't there, her friend said she was now working in Rio.
I saw maybe one or two fairly nice chicas in a sea of less desireable ones. I was there early in the day though at about 1 PM. One of the apartment madams told me a lot more chicas got there after 4 or 5pm.
I was there to see one chica in particular but she hadn't showed up yet, so I passed and moved on.

Ricker
07-21-08, 20:15
I read a while ago on this board that Love Story was closed. What is the current status?

GK

Went to Love Story the other night with a buddy.

Actually, it's the new Love Story.
Didn't pay a cover cause my buddy knew the guy at the front.

Some hot garotas running around but way too loud in there for me ... I'm not into the LOUUUUD music as so you can't hear anything.

There is an upstairs area though where it's more quiet and you can schmooze a bit more.

Jake993
07-22-08, 18:53
Anyone in Sao Paulo this week who wants to meet up for mongering?
I am flying down tomorrow arriving Thursday morning. I am heading to Rio on Friday evening so it's just the one night in Sampa and don't want to waste the opportunity.

Failing that, anyone care to give an opinion about how to make the most of one afternoon and a night in Sao Paulo? I don't have to work until noon on Friday so I have all morning to recover from Thursday night.

I am tempted to hit Cafe Photo and may Gauguin, but I get the impression from this board that both are a bit over priced and worth avoiding.

Comments?

Genghis Khan
07-22-08, 21:11
Went to Love Story the other night with a buddy.

Actually, it's the new Love Story.
Didn't pay a cover cause my buddy knew the guy at the front.

Some hot garotas running around but way too loud in there for me ... I'm not into the LOUUUUD music as so you can't hear anything.

There is an upstairs area though where it's more quiet and you can schmooze a bit more.

Thanks! Is the location still the same? Id not do you have the address?

GK

Ricker
07-25-08, 02:19
Thanks! Is the location still the same? Id not do you have the address?

GK

I don´t have the exact address, but it´s down Consolacao towards the metro station Republica.

Jake993
07-25-08, 13:47
Funny how things never seem to go according to plan.
I arrived on the early flight to Sao Paulo yesterday. Immigration was quick and I was in my hotel (Hilton Morumbi) by 10:00 AM. I had great plans of getting cleaned up, have a quick lunch and then either hit one of the clinics or call one of about three recommendations for escorts that I got from your guys (thank you very much).

But alas, it was not to be. No sooner did I put my bags down than my phone rang. It was my local colleague calling to tell me that the Friday meeting had been moved to Thursday and to get right over to the office in Higenopolis. So much for best laid plans.

Meeting went until 6:00 PM and drinks after at some bar. We went back to my hotel then went to dinner at a Japanese place called Koshushi located at Rua Viradouro, 139 in Itaim Bibi. It was excellent. Very good shushi. Not surprising.

During dinner, my colleagues convinced me that with only one night in SP it would be a shame not to check out Cafe Photo. We got in the cab but the driver had told us the CF had been shut down the previous day. Something about a new gay government official who was coming down hard on establishments of that kind. He went on to say that it would be re-opening in another location but did not know where and when.

As plan, "B" I suggested we try Gauguin since it was close to my hotel, but he said that it had been closed down earlier in the week. WTF????? The driver suggested we try Romanza www.boiteromanza.com.br located at Av. Nove de Julho, 5660 since it was just around the corner from Kosushi. I hesitated in favor of Kilt, but my Brazilian colleague from Rio did not want to go all the way to Centro. So Romanza it was.

Entrance was R$70 and no drink included. We arrived about 10:00 PM and it was just starting to fill up. By midnight, there was probably 50 girls and about 30 guys. Girls were all very nice. Took home a nice 22 y.o. blond named Tatiana for R$300. (R$250 for her and R$50 bolsa). She wanted R$500 but I was in no hurry so it took a few hours to get the price in the right range. When a whole herd of girls came in at 1:00 AM, she got motivated real quick. I think with this crack down, the girls are all ending up at more well known places and the competition for guys is getting a bit stiff. Good for us I suppose.

Anyhow, we sailed into the Hilton and went upstairs. She was ok. Not great but ok. Fabulous body, nice bunda but not very "skilled". She was squeamish about BBBJ but after I gave her some DATY and she exploded in an orgasm, she became more willing to reciprocate. But clearly not very skilled at giving head. I'm getting a bit tired of training young ones. New rule - not going to screw anyone less than half my age!!!! Other positions we good but she wanted to be spanked hard while doing doggy. I don't mean a little whack, I mean hard!!!

She stayed all night and then we had another round this morning. I'm sure she woke the neighbors with her screaming!!!

Anyhow - another day, another meeting and then it's off to Rio this afternoon for the weekend.

Ciao

Prosal
07-25-08, 19:01
Thanks! Is the location still the same? Id not do you have the address?
Love Story is still rua Araujo, near av Ipiranga.

It moved there 9 years ago, so it can't really be called the "new" Love Story.

Ricker
07-25-08, 19:31
Love Story is still rua Araujo, near av Ipiranga.

It moved there 9 years ago, so it can't really be called the "new" Love Story.

I guess I should have said the rennovated Love Story. I didn´t mean to imply the name had changed to New Love Story.

Thanks for the clarification though :)

Prosal
07-26-08, 19:29
Thanks for the clarification though :)
No problems. I haven't been in Sampa for almost three years now and believe me, I envy you to be there. It's the most desirable megapole on earth for partying ....but also unfortunately currently one of the most expensive for mongering.

Anyway off to Tashkent (Uzbekistan) in a few days, for a six weeks stay. With a bit of apprehension, yet travelling beyond the mass-service mecquas as german FKKs, Copacabana, Pattaya, DR or TJ isn't it the very core of the pioneer monger "work" ? (the kind of work you do in provincial Venezuela)

Valeu mermao.

Jake993
07-26-08, 22:43
No problems. I haven't been in Sampa for almost three years now and believe me, I really envy you to be there. It's the most desirable megapole on earth for partying ....but also unfortunately currently one of the most financially suicidal city for mongering.

Anyway off to Tashkent (Uzbekistan) in a few days, for a six weeks stay. With a bit of apprehension, yet travelling beyond the mass-service mecquas as german FKKs, Copacabana, Pattaya, DR or TJ isn't it the very core of the pioneer elite monger "work" ? (the kind of work you do in provincial Venezuela)

Valeu mermao.

Prosal,
Be very interested to hear how you make out in Tashkent. Although I am in Rio now, I am headed to Ashgabat (Turkmenistan) in September. From what I can gather, the the mongering scene is pretty limited in Ashgabat. Luckily I have a few nights in Moscow on either end and possible side trip to Kiev as well.

Prosal
07-27-08, 17:00
Be very interested to hear how you make out in Tashkent.
From what I've read in the ISG Uzbekistan section, nightlife in Tashkent is DAMN good .. I have high expectations that I should live the kind of old-style debauchery like in Russia or Ukraine in the happy early 90ties .. or Brasil in its heydays, unfortunatly now loooong gone and never-to-be-seen-again.

Buttman Returns
07-30-08, 13:12
Don't forget about the budget spots on Consolacao: The Relax Bar, Deusas and many others lining the street. They are less than 5 blocks from Rua Augusta.

I'm going to spend only 1 night in SP before I catch a flight up north; and I don't know SP at all. Can anyone please advise where the main street action is?

These 2 streets (Consolacao and Augusta) look like very long streets. What part of them is the main street action?

I'll be travelling on a low budget, so all other expensive places I've read about in this forum are off limit... :-(

Also, are there any backpackers /budget hotels in this area? Any names?

Thanks for your help!

Anotherlevel
07-31-08, 04:36
So my wife and I are traveling to SP soon and I was wondering if there are any opportunities to get a garota to join our party? Now I have heard of their being swing parties, which we wouldn't be opposed to (have no idea how to find those), but we are looking for a more one on one experience. I am guessing being upfront is the best way to get them to come over to our hotel, but any information would be appreciated.

I know in Rio there can be issues with having someone come to your hotel room, but is that the case in SP...haven't heard anything specific, just thought I would ask.

Sui Generis
08-01-08, 06:44
So my wife and I are traveling to SP soon and I was wondering if there are any opportunities to get a garota to join our party? Now I have heard of their being swing parties, which we wouldn't be opposed to (have no idea how to find those), but we are looking for a more one on one experience. I am guessing being upfront is the best way to get them to come over to our hotel, but any information would be appreciated.

I know in Rio there can be issues with having someone come to your hotel room, but is that the case in SP...haven't heard anything specific, just thought I would ask.There are several swing clubs in São Paulo. Here's a partial list of the most. popular. Notice that they are mainly located in Moema

Swing Clubs in São Paulo

(Perdizes)

BARBACANTE
http://www.barbacantes.com.br/


(Ibirapuera)
CLUB PARA CASAIS
http://www.casalecompanhia.com.br/

(Moema)
ENIGMA CLUB
http://www.enigmaclub.com.br/sam_principal.asp

(Moema)
IMAGE NIGHT
http://www.imagenight.com.br/

(Moema)
INNER CLUB
http://www.innerclub.com.br/

(Moema)
MARRAKESH
http://www.marrakesh.com.br/home.html

(Moema)
NEFERTITI
http://www.nefertitti.com.br/


(Moema)
CASABLANCA
http://www.swingcasablanca.com.br/site.htm


Now, concerning free lance GP, you'll know if the GP is into couple if under the rubric atendimento you find the word casais (couples).

Elfrances
08-01-08, 23:35
Can somedy explain me what are exactly (I have a rough idea, haha! ) "termas", "clinicas". And how does it work? I'll be for four days in SP in August.

Thank you in advence.

El frances

Jake993
08-02-08, 14:21
Can somedy explain me what are exactly (I have a rough idea, haha! ) "termas", "clinicas". And how does it work? I'll be for four days in SP in August.

Thank you in advence.

El frances

Normally, I would adopt a more sarcastic tone and say RTFF (Read The Fucking Forum) but since I am sitting in the airport waiting for a flight and a little bored out my mind, I'll take a stab.

Both Termas and Clinicas are fronts for sex. They hide lightly behind a thin veil pretending to be spas where you can go for a shower, a steam and a massage. In the Termas in Rio, you are issued with a locker and a key. The key serves as your number for billing purposes. You are given a minimal bath robe and some flip flops (plastic sandals). Once you have showered the road dust off, you can go to a boate (bar) to a get a drink. The better ones offer a full bar. In the boate there are anywhere from a few to a few dozen girls who are wearing very little. Usually some sort of bikini or other minimal covering. The idea is that you come and sit have a drink and interact with one of the pretty girls. If you find one you like, you can take them back to one fo the several rooms or cabins that they have on the premises for a fixed fee normally charged by the 40 minute or one hour session.

The Clinicas are similar (although I must confess I have never tried a SP Clinica) but differ in that there is less of a bar atmosphere and a little more spa-like (or so I have been led to believe). I also think that in the Clinia, you have less opportunity to interract casually with the girls and must make a selection when you arrive. Sounds to me like a Russian Salona.

So that's basically it in a nutshell. I am sure my fellow ISG members can add additional detail and if you scour the forum you will find much, much greater detailed description. I should also mention that these girls are pros. They know what they are doing and are very good at it. Unlike a typical boates where you may find a gorgeous creature who is not very skilled in the sexual arts, the girls at Termas and Clinicas know what they are doing and if you ask up front and make it clear what you want, will fulfill your desires.

Good luck,

Jake

Elfrances
08-02-08, 22:43
Jake,

Thanks for adopting a didactic tone. It will help me.

Elfrances

Max34
08-05-08, 13:34
Hi guys,

Does somebody know if Tulip Inn Hotel in rua Jose Maria is girlfriendly?

Thanks

BrasilForever
08-06-08, 02:18
Can anyone recommend a hotel near this airport? I have a flight out at 10:30 a.m. the next day. Am looking for a descent/clean hotel, but not hopefully not too expensive. I do not need alot of amenities. Thanks.

Rss910
08-06-08, 03:07
Has anyone been to Bomboa in the daytime? I am looking for some daytime action when I arrive. Bomboa site says they are open at 2pm. Wondering if anyone knows what it is like.

Also does anyone know any other spots like this open during the day? I prefer this atmosphere compared to looking at photoshopped pics of girls in clinicas.

Rss910
08-06-08, 03:17
Any suggestions to what may be my last trip to SP? I've done Bomboa, Cafe Photo, Kilt, Palms, Mclass and several others. Was wondering if anyone has any ideas of places I should go for possibly my last trip.

Could anyone assist me with the high end GDP's in SP?

Interested in threesome also. Recommendations greatly appreciated.

Anotherlevel
08-06-08, 14:00
There are several swing clubs in São Paulo. Here's a partial list of the most. popular. Notice that they are mainly located in Moema

Swing Clubs in São PauloThanks for the information, will definitely look into them. Has anyone been to any of these to know which one would be better? Also, what is the etiquette at these swing places? Aggressive or respectful?

Zrngblarsouille
08-06-08, 21:18
Does anyone know whether the Mercure Hotel on Paulista is girlfriendly?

Hobbying
08-07-08, 04:13
Has anyone been to Bomboa in the daytime? I am looking for some daytime action when I arrive. Bomboa site says they are open at 2pm. Wondering if anyone knows what it is like.

Also does anyone know any other spots like this open during the day? I prefer this atmosphere compared to looking at photoshopped pics of girls in clinicas.Yes they are opened at 2pm but all the girls don't show up until 3. You may want to go to there later before 8pm so if you take a girl out from the day shift you won't have to pay an exit fee since she's leaving anyway.

BrasilForever
08-09-08, 11:44
Can anyone recommend a hotel near this airport? I have a flight out at 10:30 a.m. the next day. Am looking for a descent/clean hotel, but not hopefully not too expensive. I do not need alot of amenities. Thanks.Okay, did a little on line research. Anyone familiar with Augusta Park Hoteis in Jardim? The rates are pretty good, $67 a night for a double bed, and it is pretty close to the domestic airport. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Max34
08-09-08, 13:24
Mercure is girlfriendly.

book it directly by accorhotels.com (cheapest).

The best is to book for one and to pay fees if u have a girl.

Ciao

Latitude Cruz
08-17-08, 17:11
Okay, did a little on line research. Anyone familiar with Augusta Park Hoteis in Jardim? The rates are pretty good, $67 a night for a double bed, and it is pretty close to the domestic airport. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

I've walked by it. It looks ok from the outside.
It's not quite into ground zero of the Rua Augusta sex-trade zone, but it's on the fringes.

Here's a site with pictures:
http://travel.yahoo.com/p-hotel-388666-best_western_augusta_park_residence-i

You can google map the area from the address provided on that site.

Some more pictures:
http://images.leonardo.com/hotels/HA/AUGUSTA%20PARK%20RESIDENCE.html#

It probably goes without saying, but many times I have seen nice photos of a hotel on the internet. When I arrive, I discover they took the pictures when they last renovated...in 1952.

Buyer Beware
LC

Breast Is Best
08-23-08, 22:18
Anyone want to go out and go long and large in SP next Friday 29th? I am available form mid afternoon..No plan, no budget.

One Eyed Man
08-25-08, 04:20
Much of this report is 1+ years old, though I think most of it is still pretty relevant.

Here’s my dilemma: I’m still looking for the ideal hotel in SP: an international (like U.S.) chain (which I hope means girl friendly), not too expensive, and near Rua Augusta. I’m currently booked at the Marriott, but for $300 a night, and there has to be a cheaper and better alternative. Proximity to the subway is also important. I’d like to hear any suggestions.

Here's where I've stayed:

Hotel Unique
==========
I stayed there last November, but wouldn’t repeat. It’s a cool hotel, but it’s in the middle of nowhere. (It’s also expensive.) It’s a 15-minute uphill walk to get to the subway, and the area is full of private medical clinics (not clinicas.) The rooftop bar is cool and has a fantastic view of the skyline(s). It’s supposed to be a hotspot, but I found it rather lame.
The only saving grace is that there’s a privé next door: I think the address is Av. Brigadeiro Luís Antônio, 4554. 5-6 girls working, I think the service was R$100 a pop, and unfortunately CBJ, but the girls had great attitudes. I’d stop by again if ever in the neighborhood.

Emiliano
==========
Stayed there for a couple of nights a couple of years ago. The design is cool, I think the bar and restaurant are hip, and it’s in Jardins on a really posh shopping street, Rua Oscar Freire. Lots of restaurants around. The only downside is the price, about US$400 a night.

Hilton?
==========
I saw a report or two talking about staying at the Hilton—that it’s across the street from one of the clubs. Website says it’s in Morumbi, which seems a bit far from most of the action.

Clinica Kin
==========
Okay, this is not a hotel, but I did visit. It took quite an effort for the taxi driver to find the place, and it seems quite far from public transportation. I was assigned this sweet, petite 18 year-old thing, who started with a massage on an air mattress. After I turned over, I made my move, however she instructed me that Kin was a normal clinica, and that no sex was allowed. However, it didn’t take much persuading to get her to slip on a condom and go up and down on me like a jackrabbit, which was a fantastic ride. When I was done, they called me a cab (which they seem to do all the time), and the cab arrived pretty quickly but took me for a pretty long ride to get back to my hotel.

Sexy Boy
08-26-08, 03:46
Hello everybody, I’m on Sao Paulo in a hotel nearby Paulista Ave, in Rua Haddock Lobo. I don’t speak Portuguese but I speak English and Spanish. I would like to know if near this area I could find some working girls or a massagem.

Any recommendation is welcome.

Jake993
08-26-08, 16:27
Much of this report is 1+ years old, though I think most of it is still pretty relevant.
Here’s my dilemma: I’m still looking for the ideal hotel in SP: an international (like U.S.) chain (which I hope means girl friendly), not too expensive, and near Rua Augusta. I’m currently booked at the Marriott, but for $300 a night, and there has to be a cheaper and better alternative. Proximity to the subway is also important. I’d like to hear any suggestions.


Hilton is close to Cafe Gauguin, but that's about it.
Try the Caesar Business on Paulista. Girls friendly but they may charge you an extra fee for your guest. Depends how sneaky you are.
http://www.caesarbusiness.com/portal/p/en_MX/CB/CBP/1/0/Availability/showHotelInformation.do?hotelCode=CBP&country=BR&city=38&checkInDate=&checkOutDate=&numberAdults=1&numberChildren=0&numberSeniors=&numberInfants=&numberRooms=1&iata=&promotion=&group=&agreement=&idioma=en_MX&marca=CB&marcadesc=caesarbusiness&hotel=saopaulopaulista&destino=saopaulo

I stayed there a few months ago for $150 a night.

Jake993
08-26-08, 16:32
Hello everybody, I’m on Sao Paulo in a hotel nearby Paulista Ave, in Rua Haddock Lobo. I don’t speak Portuguese but I speak English and Spanish. I would like to know if near this area I could find some working girls or a massagem.

Any recommendation is welcome.


http://www.emsampa.com.br/page6n.htm

Latitude Cruz
08-27-08, 06:10
I keep hoping to hear Millenium or Bahamas has re-opened...anyone have good news for me?

Lachlan1972
08-27-08, 06:25
Greetings fellow mongers.

In 2 weeks I will be arriving in SP for my first taste of brazillian action. To date I have been active in asia. Phillipines, China, Hong Kong and Thailand. So I am looking forward to seeing what all the fuss is about and after reading 70 pages of the forum (please no RTFF comments) am looking for some advice.

1. I want to head to the beaches near SP for some sun and fun. So which are the best beaches and can I get action there or is it best to bring it from SP? Accommodation tips at the beaches would be appreciated. (note there is very little beach action info on the forum)

2. I have to head to Piracicaba and Ribeiaro Preto which are inland for SP. Any mongering advice or bar suggestions would be appreciated.

Cheers

Anotherlevel
08-27-08, 23:38
I asked this question in the Rio thread, but I was curious if there exist any in SP as well. Basically, I was wondering if anyone knows of any termas that allow couples? Now, I have asked the question of swing clubs before, but this questions is centered purely around termas (or clinicas in SP I believe) and couple play. We would go to a swing club to see what goes on there, but we like to know all our options and if a termas is welcoming, it would be just as easy!

Dutchstud
08-28-08, 05:12
Hi,

I just was in Bombao and it is still a great please to go. A lot of girls and they are very willing to get the business.

Entrance is RS 180 and for this you get 6 beers.

Due to problems with the local government they changed the system: they split the club and the hotel. So if you want to have sex with the girl(s) you must leave the club and go to their or your own hotel.

In the club-hotel you pay RS 100 for 45-60 minutes, the price for the girl you have to negotiate yourself. Depending on your wish RS 200-300. I paid RS 300 and we had great sex, all included: BBBJ, DDP and kissing. Girl was a mulatin, Helena with long black hair. No English but the waiter help me with the price.

My conclusion: still a great and safe place to go.

Joe47
08-28-08, 19:39
Hello,

I will be next week in Sao paulo and I heard the Cafe foto is closed?

Any news on that?

Almotu
08-28-08, 23:47
Entrance is RS 180 and for this you get 6 beers.

In the club-hotel you pay RS 100 for 45-60 minutes, the price for the girl you have to negotiate yourself. Depending on your wish RS 200-300. I paid RS 300 and we had great sex, all included: BBBJ, DDP and kissing. Girl was a mulatin, Helena with long black hair. No English but the waiter help me with the price.

My conclusion: still a great and safe place to go.And my conclusion unfortunately is at 1.60R to the dollar. 580R is just out of my budget now.

Ricker
08-29-08, 19:19
Hello everybody, I’m on Sao Paulo in a hotel nearby Paulista Ave, in Rua Haddock Lobo. I don’t speak Portuguese but I speak English and Spanish. I would like to know if near this area I could find some working girls or a massagem.

Any recommendation is welcome.

Of course amigo! You´re staying right near Rua Augusta.
Plenty of places to go and have fun.

One club right down Augusta, the doorman speaks good english and spanish actually. Nice guy.

I went by there last night as a matter of fact, some pretty garotas there.
I forgot the exact name of the place ... I´ll take a walk by later today and post it.

boa sorte!

Ricker
08-29-08, 19:26
And my conclusion unfortunately is at 1.60R to the dollar. 580R is just out of my budget now.

Hey Almotooo ...

Amigo, there´s no need to pay those silly prices at all.
I´ve now been hanging out in Sao Paulo for a while and have found many avenues for fun at a price that won´t break the bank.

My girlfriend here works and goes to the university ... med school, imagine that.
Sooooo of course, being the guy that I am, I love to go out and play with the garotas for fun when I can.

Matter of fact, I´m going to see this beautiful mulata I met yesterday at a daytime place for a little afternoon fun ... 50 BR for an hour and I guarantee she´d rival the chicas these guys are paying 600 BR ... crazy!

Ate breve!

John Corey
08-29-08, 21:45
Hello,

I will be next week in Sao paulo and I heard the Cafe foto is closed?

Any news on that?I am in Sao Paulo as I write this and Cafe Photo is open (I am going there tonight); I was at Garden Club last night.

A word of caution... both places are top notch but expensive (then again cost is relative to one's pocket). It is like being in a candy store.

Ricker; pm me if you would like to have a drink over the weekend.

JC

John Corey
08-30-08, 16:31
Cafe Photo:

I went to Cafe Photo after a while last night. The club is run better than any of the ones I know that are still in operation. The line up was better than Garden club and Cafe Gagugin (even on a Friday). As someone had observed earlier in the form, the ratio of women to men is really lopsided to our advantage more so than before. Given the recent closures of some good establishments the better known clubs have an unusual number of hotties. It was hard to make up my mind given the number of 8's and 9's in the house. After a few conversations, I saw this strikingly beautiful slim blond, about 5'10'' tall. Given my limited language skills it was a rough start but after a few sentences in Portuguese mixed with Spanish I got her to smile and then the conversation flowed a bit freely. Lu , 23 years old, has been in the business for less than a year, working in W.E. a well known estabilishment that is now closed. She told me she could only come out for an hour and after a little more discussion it came to three hours for Rs 400 as she has a four year old at home and the maid had to leave early Saturday morning. So we leave the club, in the taxi she anounces she does not have any camisinhas on hand (twice in three days). I told her it was not a problem as I had a good supply in my room. Once we walked into the well lit room in my hotel I realized I had struck gold. Lu is very pretty, natural big breasts, perfect round Brazilian bunda and a great attitude. She started with a slow BBBJ, DATY and then 69 with a lot of kissing a true GFE. After two shots in two hours I was so exhausted that I was literally happy to see her go. I needed my 8 full hours of sleep. It was a great experience.

W-Garden club:

I had a great experience, however, there was a slight wrinkle. Unlike any of the other clubs I frequent, aside from the Rs160 entrance I was asked to pay the girls tab of Rs 170 which I thought was unusual and was being singled out as it was my first time there. I stand corrected if is their usual policy. As I sat down I was accosted by Sol one of the young ladies managing the girls. I found her to be very helpful and she gave me a good rundown on the girls in the house. If you use her services kindly take care of her as her gratitude will go a long way in ensuring a great mongering experience. Upon her recommendation after talking to a few young ladies I selected Priscilla, a tall blond (yes, I have type :)) with silicone breasts and very long legs. She wanted Rs500 for three hours. It was a great experience with a nice BBBJ, DATY lots of kissing. Two shots to goal and once again I was happy to see Priscilla leave. BTW.. I met an old friend who managed one of the better known clubs that was recntly shut down. It was good to see a familiar face at the Garden club.

The Palms:

A word of caution for those visiting the Palms; as of this past Monday customers are required to bring their own camisinhas as the girls are prohibited from carrying any of the necessary accessories (I learned the hard way). I was told it a new measure to insulate themselves against the crackdown. I was required to pay Rs 170 for the young lady I was escorting out. I thought I was singled out as I was a newbie to the club.. kindly feel free to correct me if I am wrong. I will post about my experiences in a few days.

Conclusion: SP has become expensive, however, the overall quality of girls is still great you just need to know where to go and of course get lucky.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Joe47
08-30-08, 18:20
Thank you John for the answer , please can give me the address of Garden Club How is the Garden Club for the quality of the girls?

Thank again,

Joe

Senb91
08-31-08, 15:06
Is there any fun to be had on Sunday afternoons?

Any massage places open?

Thanks

Hobbying
08-31-08, 17:22
John Corey,

Did you negotiate the price?

400-500 was for TLN at these places for me.

John Corey
08-31-08, 21:10
John Corey,

Did you negotiate the price?

400-500 was for TLN at these places for me.I did and the ones I liked did not want to go beyond 3 hours. It worked out fine as one of them came to my hotel last night and stayed till 4 am and the other one is coming in tonight to spend the night for the same price I paid at the club.

Ricker
08-31-08, 21:33
Ricker; pm me if you would like to have a drink over the weekend.

JC

Would`ve been a pleasure amigo, however, I`m in Buenos Aires for the weekend. Though I think I`d go broke hanging out in those high end clubs with you .... :)

Take care

Ricker
08-31-08, 21:35
Of course amigo! You´re staying right near Rua Augusta.
Plenty of places to go and have fun.

One club right down Augusta, the doorman speaks good english and spanish actually. Nice guy.

I went by there last night as a matter of fact, some pretty garotas there.
I forgot the exact name of the place ... I´ll take a walk by later today and post it.

boa sorte!

Hey amigo, the name of the place is Maisson on Rua Augusta.

Boa sorte!

Sexy Boy
08-31-08, 23:40
Down RUA BELA CINTRA and RUA FERNANDO (ahead of a gas station) you could find at least five or six working girls that are good looking. Yesterday I went to this place and found a GAROTA named BRUNA that have great tits and big BUNDA. The price was 100 REALS and 20 REALS for hotel that is nearby. That included (PROGRAMA) CBJ and sex (no anal). The Friday night was packet with a lot of ladies but the weather was cold and was raining so I prefer to return to my hotel room but this place is good. I went to RUA AUGUSTA Wednesday and Thursday but look dangerous at night.

This report is oriented for mongers with limited budget because I found this city to be very expensive for Latin American standards.

Ricker
09-01-08, 01:54
... i went to rua augusta wednesday and thursday but look dangerous at night.

this report is oriented for mongers with limited budget because i found this city to be very expensive for latin american standards.

i´ve had no problems on rua augusta at night.

lots of little clubs and trust me, you can find some nice garotas here.
i recomend only to visit the clubs that the doorman will let you take a looksy for free before paying the entrance fee.
usually, i have found anyway, if they won`t let you take a sneak peek, it`s because the garotas are not linda.

i also noticed a few nice street girls, though i didn`t partake, i spoke with them and they were charging 100 r and 20 for the room.
one garota in particular was very pretty.

good luck!

JWNoot
09-01-08, 02:16
I will be traveling through Brasil in November and have a 6 1/2 hour layover in Sau Paulo. I've been many times to Rio, but never to Sau Paulo. Is there any fun to be had during a short layover?

Thanks in advance for your suggestions!

JW

Orca11
09-01-08, 13:59
I will be traveling through Brasil in November and have a 6 1/2 hour layover in Sau Paulo. I've been many times to Rio, but never to Sau Paulo. Is there any fun to be had during a short layover?

Thanks in advance for your suggestions!

JWIf you want to stay local, you can hit up Cafe Monique in downtown Guarulhos. I believe it opens around 6pm.

Ryjerrob
09-01-08, 15:16
i´ve had no problems on rua augusta at night.

lots of little clubs and trust me, you can find some nice garotas here.
i recomend only to visit the clubs that the doorman will let you take a looksy for free before paying the entrance fee.
usually, i have found anyway, if they won`t let you take a sneak peek, it`s because the garotas are not linda.

i also noticed a few nice street girls, though i didn`t partake, i spoke with them and they were charging 100 r and 20 for the room.
one garota in particular was very pretty.

good luck!

rua agusta - i would tell anyone that feels something is not safe, to stay away. when you use the word dangerous, don't go. if you do go, you'll probably just stick out, and be more obvious by acting paranoid.

clubs - this is true. if they have nothing to hide, then you should be able to take a peep. although going to places like this is a craps shoot, i still like the challenge. i have a blast making lemonade from so many lemons.

street walkers - this term is scary. when i think of any in the states, i think about undercover cops. in brasil, you can do or say anything. always negotiate up front, make sure the she is really a she, and pay after the deed. and use a condom.

ryjer

Ricker
09-01-08, 22:39
Rua Agusta - I would tell anyone that feels something is not safe, to stay away. When you use the word dangerous, don't go. If you do go, you'll probably just stick out, and be more obvious by acting paranoid ...




Well the dude said it looked dangerous and I just stated my opinion of the area only because I`ve spent LOTS of time there.

No reason to act paranoid. Lots of people traffic walking about on the street (Augusta) even at night.
Just don`t be an idiot and walk around like Donald Trump or with all your gold showing.

Sexy Boy
09-01-08, 22:44
Rua Agusta - I would tell anyone that feels something is not safe, to stay away. When you use the word dangerous, don't go. If you do go, you'll probably just stick out, and be more obvious by acting paranoid.
ryjer

Maybe the term “dangerous” could be misunderstood by some people (maybe locals). The Rua Agusta going toward CENTRO or BELA VISTA gets pretty dark at night. Maybe I had seen to many scary movies about the “FAVELAS’ in Brazil or I’m just paranoid like somebody suggested.

Ryjerrob
09-01-08, 23:35
Well the dude said it looked dangerous and I just stated my opinion of the area only because I've spent LOTS of time there.

No reason to act paranoid. Lots of people traffic walking about on the street (Augusta) even at night.
Just don`t be an idiot and walk around like Donald Trump or with all your gold showing.

It's a matter of perception. If a newbie felt that a area was dangerous, then they probably shouldn't be there. If you think about, they obvious don't have the knowledge of the area that many here have. It's only after being educated by asking questions that they realize that their fears may have been misplaced. It's only after experiencing the area that their fears may be actually put to rest.

But I wasn't implying I had an issue with what you said. No offense meant....

ryjer

Ryjerrob
09-01-08, 23:40
Maybe the term “dangerous” could be misunderstood by some people (maybe locals). The Rua Agusta going toward CENTRO or BELA VISTA gets pretty dark at night. Maybe I had seen to many scary movies about the “FAVELAS’ in Brazil or I’m just paranoid like somebody suggested.

My comments were specifically meant for newbie mongers, or those new to the area. I personally don't feel the area is dangerous, or unsafe. I'm just saying it's probably better to educate someone unsure of the area, versus just saying "it was fine when I was there."

I only use the word "dangerous" because the original poster used this word when speaking of his perception.....

ryjer

Sexy Boy
09-02-08, 04:44
My perception is that Brazil (Sao Paulo) has the most beautiful women on earth. You could see on the streets black, Latin, white, any kind of women together. I had been also on Salvador Bahia but this place rocks.

The down point is that this city is very expensive. I have dollars in my pockets but at $1.6 Real’s per dollar, an R$500 night means $312.00 USD.

I know that in this city should be places for locals that cost no more than $80 Real’s for complete. I ask to locals and residents to share this information before I leave so I could have a real taste of Sao Paulo and Brazil.

Obrigado.

Genghis Khan
09-02-08, 12:32
I keep hoping to hear Millenium or Bahamas has re-opened...anyone have good news for me?

Bahamas has not reopened but the owner has opened a new club in a new location - Touch Cafe - quite a distance out of SP centre.

http://www.touchcafe.com.br/

GK

Elfrances
09-02-08, 22:47
I've been in SP for 5 days in August. I had read with a lot of interest reports by fellow mongers, especially those about Rua Augusta, as my hotel (Renaissance) was close to there. But I had also prepared my trip through my favorite dating website. And found Laura, a Brazilian lady, 45-year old, who said she would be happy to meet me during my trip. Couldn't call her on the 1st day, because of a business dinner. When we talked on day 2, she agreed to have a drink in the evening, saying her flat was rather close to the hotel. So we met, had dinner (paid by my company, hahaha), talked (my Portuguese is not great, but enough for a conversation, and I speak fairly good Spanish) and then I quietly suggested to "talk" a little more in my room. The only option as she didn't want me at her place because she lives with her two daughters. No problem at all in the hotel: she actually looks like a middle-aged middle-class lady (what she is), not as a GdP. In the room, it was quite easy: no "no-but-yes" as often with Latin ladies, we went right to the thing. Very nice fuck, with everything (including ass-fucking: I'm not so fond of, but as she asked for, I obliged), with a nice and clever lady. Of course, not a GdP's body, but not bad at all for her 45, with big tits as I like. We repeated two days later. Back in Europe, I found a mail from her, saying she had a great time, and that she expects to see me again when I'm back to Brazil. Life is simple, isn't it? Eventually, because of another business dinner, I had no time to visit Rua Augusta. Next time, I'll take a couple of days more.

Elfrances

Steel Head
09-02-08, 23:03
Hi all,

Firstly,

I am new to international mongering, but I do monger regularily in the states.
With that said I am traveling to Sao Paulo Sept 22 -28 for work. I speak no Portuguese,I will try to learn some common phrases though.

So i am looking for recomendations of GP's that speak english, or Clincas that are gringo friendly. I see the pictures of all the beautiful women on the websites, but if it is anything like the states there is a lot of bait and switch especially for a visitor. I have been reading reviews elseswhere, but that doesnt solve my language deficit.

Anybody available to meet up and show a Sao Paulo gringo around?

Ricker
09-03-08, 02:38
It's a matter of perception. If a newbie felt that a area was dangerous, then they probably shouldn't be there. If you think about, they obvious don't have the knowledge of the area that many here have. It's only after being educated by asking questions that they realize that their fears may have been misplaced. It's only after experiencing the area that their fears may be actually put to rest.

But I wasn't implying I had an issue with what you said. No offense meant....

ryjer

Well put amigo ... I'm with ya :)

Ricker
09-03-08, 02:41
My perception is that Brazil (Sao Paulo) has the most beautiful women on earth. You could see on the streets black, Latin, white, any kind of women together. I had been also on Salvador Bahia but this place rocks.

The down point is that this city is very expensive. I have dollars in my pockets but at $1.6 Real’s per dollar, an R$500 night means $312.00 USD.

I know that in this city should be places for locals that cost no more than $80 Real’s for complete. I ask to locals and residents to share this information before I leave so I could have a real taste of Sao Paulo and Brazil.

Obrigado.

Amigo, I don't want to harp on Rua Augusta, but you can find some gems in these clubs for around 80R total.

Try Balnearos (sp?) on Augusta in the daytime if you feel unsafe at night.
10R entrance which includes 2 drinks, 50R for the garota, 20R for the room ... there's your 80R completo you're looking for :)

Good luck!

Tommy America
09-03-08, 22:19
W-Garden club:

... As I sat down I was accosted by Sol one of the young ladies managing the girls. I found her to be very helpful and she gave me a good rundown on the girls in the house. If you use her services kindly take care of her as her gratitude will go a long way in ensuring a great mongering experience. [/blue][/size]John: I think I may know Sol from a prior life. Would you describe her please? Is she blonde?

Anotherlevel
09-04-08, 04:52
I am not so clear on the process here in SP. Do you just show up at one of these clincas/termas and take the garota out with you or there is an option to take her back to your hotel, but you can decide whether you "play" there or in your room?

I ask because I like the idea of taking them out of the place because this way I can see what I am choosing, plus bring someone back to my hotel for my wife and I to play with. If someone can clear this up soon, I would appreciate it since I going to be in SP this weekend. Thanks in advance.

Fredyann
09-04-08, 10:44
The best girl I ever met in San Paulo is Mariana Shater. Hard to book but she is a really a tornado !! http://www.marianashater93729664.********.com/
She is open to anything, everything and she loves what she is doing !! I guess some of you have met her ?! ;-)

El Greco
09-04-08, 11:08
I am not so clear on the process here in SP. Do you just show up at one of these clincas/termas and take the garota out with you or there is an option to take her back to your hotel, but you can decide whether you "play" there or in your room?

I ask because I like the idea of taking them out of the place because this way I can see what I am choosing, plus bring someone back to my hotel for my wife and I to play with. If someone can clear this up soon, I would appreciate it since I going to be in SP this weekend. Thanks in advance.

Usually you do it on site. But everything goes in Brasil for a price.
Just call them or go there ask them and negotiate.

John Corey
09-04-08, 13:15
Sol is a large(not tall), dark skinned (I think she has some african ancestory), lady who wears glasses. I am sure quite a few of us know her from a previous life as she claims she used to work at W.E. but I never saw her there the few times I was there.


John: I think I may know Sol from a prior life. Would you describe her please? Is she blonde?

Buttman Returns
09-04-08, 14:00
Amigo, I don't want to harp on Rua Augusta, but you can find some gems in these clubs for around 80R total.

Try Balnearos (sp?) on Augusta in the daytime if you feel unsafe at night.
10R entrance which includes 2 drinks, 50R for the garota, 20R for the room ... there's your 80R completo you're looking for :)

Good luck!

Sounds interesting. I may check it out when I'm there next month. What part of Rua Augusta? Corner Avenida Radial Leste-Oeste?

Ricker
09-04-08, 15:57
Sounds interesting. I may check it out when I'm there next month. What part of Rua Augusta? Corner Avenida Radial Leste-Oeste?

I don't know all that .... just go about 4 or 5 blocks down Augusta from Paulista and it[ll be on your right side, accross from the Hotel Pan Americano.

'ta bom! :)

Monger X
09-04-08, 18:30
I've been in SP for 5 days in August. I had read with a lot of interest reports by fellow mongers, especially those about Rua Augusta, as my hotel (Renaissance) was close to there. But I had also prepared my trip through my favorite dating website. And found Laura, a Brazilian lady, 45-year old, who said she would be happy to meet me during my trip. Couldn't call her on the 1st day, because of a business dinner. When we talked on day 2, she agreed to have a drink in the evening, saying her flat was rather close to the hotel. So we met, had dinner (paid by my company, hahaha), talked (my Portuguese is not great, but enough for a conversation, and I speak fairly good Spanish) and then I quietly suggested to "talk" a little more in my room. The only option as she didn't want me at her place because she lives with her two daughters. No problem at all in the hotel: she actually looks like a middle-aged middle-class lady (what she is), not as a GdP. In the room, it was quite easy: no "no-but-yes" as often with Latin ladies, we went right to the thing. Very nice fuck, with everything (including ass-fucking: I'm not so fond of, but as she asked for, I obliged), with a nice and clever lady. Of course, not a GdP's body, but not bad at all for her 45, with big tits as I like. We repeated two days later. Back in Europe, I found a mail from her, saying she had a great time, and that she expects to see me again when I'm back to Brazil. Life is simple, isn't it? Eventually, because of another business dinner, I had no time to visit Rua Augusta. Next time, I'll take a couple of days more.

Elfrances

Nice report! And just the type of info I was looking for as I will be spending a night at the Renaissance in a couple weeks! If you don't mind, would you share the name of the dating site you used?
Thanks in advance!!

Hobbying
09-04-08, 20:46
Nice report! And just the type of info I was looking for as I will be spending a night at the Renaissance in a couple weeks! If you don't mind, would you share the name of the dating site you used?

Thanks in advance!!I've stayed at Renaissance a few times and theres plenty of single ladies up in the Havana club upstairs.

I think they come to just meet gringos lol

Buttman Returns
09-04-08, 22:37
I don't know all that .... just go about 4 or 5 blocks down Augusta from Paulista and it[ll be on your right side, accross from the Hotel Pan Americano.

'ta bom! :)Thanks mate, in that case it's around #778, right between Av Paulista and Av Radial Leste-Oeste:

http://maps.google.com.br/maps?hl=en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=%22Hotel+Pan+Americano%22+%22sao+paulo%22&fb=1&cid=0,0,15682671167560772771&sa=X&oi=local_result&resnum=1&ct=image

I'm going to be on a long travel, i.e., tight budget this time... :-( so your recommendations re such inexpensive places are welcome! :-)

Elfrances
09-04-08, 22:55
It was adultfriendfinder.

But frankly, I think I've been lucky to find somebody there, as their Portuguese-speaking rooms are fairly poor, compared to the Spanish speaking ones. I'm sure you can find specific Brazilian dating sites that are much more active.

The Renaissance is nice. Have a good stay.

El francés

Sexy Boy
09-05-08, 05:40
Sao Paulo is a big city, could be expensive but like some friend’s here post you could find some good things at a fair price.

Yesterday was my last day at Sao Paulo so I went to Rua BELA CINTRA and FERNANDO ALBULQUERQUE. There were no less that 10 working girls. I saw at least five that were no less than 8. The most beautiful were a blonde with big breast and a true red head, the one I chose. This girl is called Aline or something similar. This girl was a pure white Caucasian not the common type on Latin America but very pretty and a nice body.

For the one on a limited budget, like me I could recommend to try this street first. If not satisfied with the available women, you could go to Rua Agusta that crosses the FERNANDO A Rua. All is very near so is a good choice for all the people near Paulista.

For approaching the girls I recommend the following phrases:
1. Hola Todo Bom (Hi how are you)
2. Que fazer voce (what you do)
3. Qual e programa (she will tell if is completo (anal) or what)
4. Qanto costa (how much will it cost)
5. Qanto tempo (how much time)
6. Voce sem moito gostosa (you are hot)

I don’t speak Portuguese but with these phrases she will go with you without knowing you are foreigner at least for a while.

One final word, this places are considered cheap (100 REALES - $63.00 USD), but you could find real hotties that in other places will cost no less than $175.00. Is important to notice that for that amount you get one pop not a whole night but if you try you could negotiate.

I hope to return to Sao Paulo on October for work again so please if somebody uses this info, tell me if it was useful.

Regard,

Sexy Boy

Sperto
09-05-08, 06:19
For approaching the girls I recommend the following phrases:
1. Hola Todo Bom (Hi how are you)
2. Que fazer voce (what you do)
3. Qual e programa (she will tell if is completo (anal) or what)
4. Qanto costa (how much will it cost)
5. Qanto tempo (how much time)
6. Voce sem moito gostosa (you are hot)
I hope you don't mind some corrections, just to avoid misunderstandings.
1. Olá, tudo bem?
2. Que voce faz?
3. Voce é completa?
4. Quanto custa? (costa=coast)
5. Quanto tempo?
6. Voce é muito gostosa. (sem=without)

Hobbying
09-05-08, 09:34
Coma vi (how are you) is what I use.

Sexy Boy
09-05-08, 15:14
I hope you don't mind some corrections, just to avoid misunderstandings.
1. Olá, tudo bem?
2. Que voce faz?
3. Voce é completa?
4. Quanto custa? (costa=coast)
5. Quanto tempo?
6. Voce é muito gostosa. (sem=without)

Your corrections are welcome.

Ricker
09-05-08, 16:33
... For approaching the girls I recommend the following phrases:
1. Hola Todo Bom (Hi how are you)
2. Que fazer voce (what you do)
3. Qual e programa (she will tell if is completo (anal) or what)
4. Qanto costa (how much will it cost)
5. Qanto tempo (how much time)
6. Voce sem moito gostosa (you are hot)

I don’t speak Portuguese but with these phrases she will go with you without knowing you are foreigner at least for a while ...



Thanks for the post amigo.

It's very funny that you say that they won't know you're a foreigner with those phrases above. :)

Take care.

El Greco
09-05-08, 20:03
Thanks for the post amigo.

It's very funny that you say that they won't know you're a foreigner with those phrases above. :)

Take care.

It sounds "Portunol" to me. LOL
That language I know for sure.

Steel Head
09-08-08, 18:02
I will be staying in the Meliá Jardim Europa. i am wondering if this hotel is girl friendly. Also are there any clubs, or the like nearby this hotel?

Thanks in advance,

Genghis Khan
09-09-08, 15:42
Sol is a large(not tall), dark skinned (I think she has some african ancestory), lady who wears glasses. I am sure quite a few of us know her from a previous life as she claims she used to work at W.E. but I never saw her there the few times I was there.

Sol is my favourite too. She wears white glasses. She did used to work at W.E. but not as a waiter serving drinks or food. I think she was in charge of the cleaing staff of the rooms at W.E.

GK

John Corey
09-10-08, 03:54
Sol is my favourite too. She wears white glasses. She did used to work at W.E. but not as a waiter serving drinks or food. I think she was in charge of the cleaing staff of the rooms at W.E.

GKThat's Sol; She did not look like she was part of the the wait staff. I have to clarify this just out of curiosity....do you really have to pay for the girls to exist the club at the Garden? It struck me as a bit odd when it was suggested. It was no big deal as it was just a small amount but I have a nagging feel the waiter was taking advantage of the fact I was new there.

pm me before you go to SP the next time and I will give you an excellent contact (not that you need one):)

Genghis Khan
09-10-08, 12:35
That's Sol; She did not look like she was part of the the wait staff. I have to clarify this just out of curiosity....do you really have to pay for the girls to exist the club at the Garden? It struck me as a bit odd when it was suggested. It was no big deal as it was just a small amount but I have a nagging feel the waiter was taking advantage of the fact I was new there.

pm me before you go to SP the next time and I will give you an excellent contact (not that you need one):)I am not sure concerning the exit fee. I didn't pay an exit fee (only drinks and food) but I knew Sol and Jorge (the boss) so they might have left it out since I was there 9 nights in two weeks.

I did negotiate and pay the girls fees directly to the girls so I guess it is not unfair that they do charge us some exit fee since otherwise they will get nothing for the business going on in their club.

Ownership has changed at Garden?

GK

Lachlan1972
09-12-08, 01:41
Hi Guys

I will be in Brazil from Sept 25 for my first trip and have a great hit list from all the info in this forum.

Cheers

Frog Teeth
09-14-08, 03:58
I was told that BomBoa has been closed.

Does anyone know it it's re-opened?

Thanks

Mahal
09-15-08, 20:59
Went to Clinica Kin around 7PM and had to wait an hour, service is still good, took the 4 hands special which is a good deal and let the first girl pick the second one, which in my experience is better as she will choose someone she likes to work with. One was from the Amazon region and the other from Salvador, quite a treat. Greek is R$100 extra for those interested.

Walked there from the girl-friendly Estanplaza Berrini, about 20 minutes and I did use the GPS on my phone, not a big deal with an in-ear headphone and the phone in my pocket. Was really not necessary since it is quite simple if you have already been there, from Estanplaza Berrini turn left, walk to Petroni jr blvd, make a left then a right at a garage to José Marques da Cruz. Picked that hotel because the rates at the Grand Estanplaza were very high that night.

On the way back I stopped at a very good Churrascaria on Roque Petroni, the one on the left side walking from the clinica towards the Hilton/Hyatt etc, it was very good and cheap but can't remember the name. Once recharged, headed to Cafe Gauguin across from the Grand Estanplaza, saw my favorite Isadora who asked for R$700 but quickly agreed to US$200, which she thought was equivalent to R$500 (she is good at many things, including Greek, but not math... that is about R$350). I did not feel bad about it as R$400 seems a common price in SP, gave her a R$50 tip.

Cafe Gauguin had a lot of pretty girls and few customers, beware of the very expensive Champagne the bartender will suggest for the girls.

Sui Generis
09-17-08, 16:09
I'll be in Brazil, São Paulo, in November.

As I frequently receive several PM from other hobbysits asking me if I know GDP able to speak English, I asked my friends in Brazil to help me in this matter.

Up to now, I only received an answer concerning a certain Julia Mexicana. That GDP appears to be born in Mexico and she is a mix from French and Mexican. I don't know if she speaks English. But I'm sure that she speaks Spanish.

So, I think it may help some hobbyists unable to speak fluently Portuguese but with a command of Spanish.

Julia Mexicana: tel: (11) 8789-2420

Albert Punter
09-21-08, 02:10
Hope you don't mind but correct writing is "como vai"


Coma vi (how are you) is what I use.

Bobo5
09-23-08, 02:18
I was told that BomBoa has been closed.

Does anyone know it it's re-opened?

Thanks


I just had a chat - MSN - with a girlfriend and she confirmed me that bomboa is open.

bb5

Northern Dancer
09-29-08, 01:32
I just had a chat - MSN - with a girlfriend and she confirmed me that bomboa is open.

bb5I just walked past it and it was dark and locked. I don't remember it being closed in Sundays.

QuackUp
09-29-08, 06:16
After landing at the local airport, one thing that has changed is that you used to get a meter cab just outside the doors of the airport. Now, you have to take the pre-paid cabs which cost a little more.

The plan for today was to land, get in a cab and meet my buddy at Fogo de Chao. The pre-paid cab cost me r$25 for a very short cab ride. Next time, I will go up to the second floor and catch a meter taxi dropping someone off.

I meet my buddy at fogo de chao, if you have never been, this is one good churascaria. The food and service is excellent. One thing about s/p, as GK had pointed out long ago, the culinary delights are second to none.

After dinner, my buddy didn't want to go out. Because of all the clubs that were closed down I wanted to at least show him one high end nightclub. I was going to take him to cafe photo, but he insisted he was tired and just wanted to rest.

At least earlier in the day back in Rio I had one of the best experience of my trip so far, so I was a happy camper.
We went back to the hotel, we shared the room because he was only staying until Sunday. I had prepaid the hotel and got the room for two persons. I was planning on some incall later in the week.

Except for the dinner, we closed day one in s/p with a whimper.

QuackUp
09-29-08, 06:19
Saturday day two in s/p. Went to eu & elas to see what kind of talent would be there. Arrived about 15:00 and maybe because it was a Saturday the talent was way down. Only three girls avaliable at the time, none to my liking. The price went up a little since my last time there.

r$89 for entrance with 2 drinks. r$5 if you use a robe. r$2 if you take a towel. If you take the girl to the room, towels will be in the room.

After about an hour or so, a few more girls came in. Still no knockouts. This one blonde came in, best of the lot so I converse with her. She tells me she used to work at cafe photo.

She said the money was good but the competition was fierce. I asked her what the going rate at photo was. She said r$500 for one hour. I told her the last time I went, if I paid r$500, that meant for the whole night. She then explained how alot of american tourist don't negotiate and pay it. Good thing I didn't take my buddy last night, I would have been pissed off for r$500 for just an hour.

After a while I took her up. Her session was good but again, not fantastic by brazilian standards. Probably would not repeat. I gave her r$100.

When we were through, I took my buddy to Jun Sakamoto for dinner. This was one of the reasons I wanted my buddy to come to s/p. Again, this was one of the best dinners on the trip. It is pricey, but well worth it.

After dinner I was going to take my buddy to Bomboas but he thought because it was a Saturday and since eu & elas was down on girls, so would be bomboa.

Instead we went down Rua Augusta. Most of the place I can't remember the names. We only went to the ones where they let us have a sneak peak. Dubai was the first, Only three girls there, all looking bored and distracted. Left there and went across the street. Don't know the name but there was a big tv showing porn on the back wall. This place seemed okay but the guys outnumbered the girls by 3 to one. Didn't stay.

There were only two more clubs that let us sneak peak but not worth staying. All the other places charged between r$10- r$20 to get in. We didn't want to pay before we saw the girls so after much walking, we called it a night and headed back to the hotel.

QuackUp
09-29-08, 06:21
With my buddy gone I had set up an appointment with Luiza. She had high marks on the gpdguia. Here is her link. http://luizalui.********.com/


I figured since it was Sunday, most clubs would be closed, incall would be good. We had set up the time for 19:00. By 19:15 I knew something wrong. She hadn't shown up and didn't call.

I tried calling her at 19:30 but her phone went to voice mail. I was trying to think of alternative plans but like I said before, Sundays are pretty tought.

Originally I wanted to meet up with a girl I took out of Bomboa two years ago. I had spoken with her up until about 3 months ago. Now her phone is connected with someone else and she doesn't work at Bomboa anymore. Her name was Kelly, if anyone knew her.

I tried one last time to call Luiza, it was about 20:15. She did pickup and started speaking so quick, I couldn't understand her. All I know, she wasn't coming over.

So now what to do? I went up the street, had dinner at a steak house which wasn't too good. Wasn't bad but for r$50 I should have just gone back to fogo de chao.

After dinner, I figure I have been going at it everyday since I landed, maybe it would be a good idea to just rest. So that's what I did. Returned to the hotel, watch some cable and fell asleep.

QuackUp
09-29-08, 06:33
Not sure why the link didn't post but it ******** should have been where the astericks ended up. Sorry about that.

QuackUp
09-29-08, 06:37
Well with the no-show still haunting me, I decided to visit bomboa. Like the previous post, entrance is now r$180 but you can consume that much in drinks and food. To take a girl out, it is r$100 to the club and the fee for the girl must be negotiated. If you use their hotel, it is r$100 for one hour.

I arrived there around 18:00 and there were a few girls there maybe about 20. Half of which look pretty good.

As I was walking around, they were setting up the buffet. At around 19:00 I took advantage of the buffet and had something to eat. Today they serve chicken and rice. Not bad but I wasn't really here for the food.

After eating, the night crew was slowing coming in. Yes, I was being hit on, but I wanted to see what else was coming. Finally, a loira came in that caught my eye.

I sat down with her. Her name is Andrea, about 5'9" and slim. We talk for about half an hour and go up to the hotel. She asked for r$300, we settled on r$250 for the hour.

Upstairs everything is fine until she gives me a cbj. Wtf, I never had a girl give me a cbj from bomboa before. I know I'am getting picky but this is Brazil. Not once in Rio did anyone give me a cbj.

The only reason why I wouldn't recommend her is because of the cbj. I know some guys want the cbj, but I'am not one of them.

After the deed, I go back inside bomboa. By the way, if you go to the hotel and you haven't used up all you credits for drinks, they will honor it when you get back. At the reception desk, the lady told me I still had r$110 to spend.

So I walked around trying to see if there was someone else to do while drinking my credits up. There was one girl who had porn written all over her. She was blond and had a tatoo running down her right arm. Everytime I saw her, she was with someone, otherwise I would have taken her up.

It was getting late, so I ordered some sushi. What a difference from Jun Sakamoto. It did the trick and since I couldn't finish it. I made some new friends by giving them my left overs.

Also, for those that need help translating, one of the floor guys named Marcos, speaks English and will help you with a girl if needed.

I was about to leave when I see a tall black thin girl coming in. She goes straight to the dressing room. I waited for a little but she never came out. I asked Marcos if he knew her. He did, I told him I would be back tomorrow or the next day for her.

He told me to call him to make sure she was at the club because she didn't work everyday. Then I left for the night.

QuackUp
09-29-08, 06:42
Today I had another incall appointment set up. This time with Erika. She showed up at the appropriate time 19:00. Her photos were alot different than when she showed up at the door. Granted her pictures do not show her face, but in the pictures, her body looks okay.

Her face is average and she did have a belly on her. Well, I figure I would take one for the team again. After-all, she did have high marks at gpdguia.

I'am glad I sessioned with her. She was very passionate and nice. She stayed over 2 hours and the cost was a reasonable r$150. If only her looks were better, she would have been the perfect girl.

She did everything I asked and more. If there weren't so many options in s/p I would definately repeat.

Here are some links for her.

http://www.erikalimma.********.com
http://www.contatos.com.br/nome.php?nome=erikaloira http://www.contatos.com.br/nome.php?nome=erikaloira
http://www.abusado.com.br/nome.php?nome=erikaloira http://www.abusado.com.br/nome.php?nome=erikaloira

QuackUp
09-29-08, 06:46
Today I gave Luiza a second chance to show up. We set up the appointment for 17:00 and guess what, she actually showed up and on time. When I opened the door, I was pleasantly surprised. At least her body matched the photo's and her face wasn't too bad.

She appologize for not making it the other day and started to make up for it. This girl has got to rank in the top 5 blow jobs I have ever had. Wet, sloppy, no hands and could go on forever. She also swallowed.

She like Erika, the other incall girl, stayed for over 2 hours, almost 3 and the cost was again r$150. Highly recommended.

After Luiza left, it was still early enough and since this was my last night in Brazil, I went to a night club called Trivoly ( sp ). It is in the Pompeia district which was about a 25 minute cab ride. I went there because I saw the advertisement in the hotel magazine called magazine.

Entrance there was r$90 and the consumption was up to r$60. If you used their rooms the cost was r$50 and the girls are negotiate from r$150.

This place kind of reminded me of eu & elas, with better looking girls. No stunners but still enough variety to find someone to like.

While I was sitting on the couch, two girl start to talk to me. Or should I say dfking me. It didn't take them long to convince me to take both of them. One was named Sara, the other Julia. Julia was the prettiest of the two, Sara was the dirtiest ( in a good way ).

I usually don't like threesomes but this one turned out pretty good. The highlight was when both were sucking my cock, then as Sara was still going at it Julia started to give me a prostrate massage with her tongue. How I didn't pop right then and there is stll beyond me. After going through 5 condoms, yes switching everytime I did the other one, I finally popped.

I paid them r$150 each. Well worth it. It this place wasn't so far, I would go back. But then again, going there, we passed a shopping mall that looked very nice with theaters in it. Maybe go shopping then on to Trivolys?

This was a good end to my final night in s/p.

Still not sure why her website is not coming up, the middle portion should say blog spot, this should be one word. Everytime I write it as one word it automatically turns it into the astericks.

Sperto
09-29-08, 07:16
Not sure why the link didn't post but it ******** should have been where the astericks ended up. Sorry about that.
Nice reports.
In your links the ******** should be replaced with the word
"b l o g s p o t", without the spaces.
For some reason this word get censored here.

QuackUp
09-29-08, 07:44
Final day in Brazil. My flight out is at 20:30. I figured I must leave the hotel around 16:00 - 16:30 because of the famous s/p traffic.

Now to decide, eu & elas, bomboa, because they both open at 14:00 or call Amanda, the black girl that I saw at bomboa the other night.

Weighing my options, I decided to call Amanda. I figured if I went to eu & elas or bomboa, I would have to taxis to and from and waste a little time with the travel.

I then called Amanda. She said she could be at my hotel by 14:00, stay 2 to 2 1/2 hours for r$500. The way I figure it. If I went to bomboa, the entrance would be r180, another r$100 for the room, then minimun r$300 for the girl. So I told Amanda to come on over.

She didn't arrive at 14:00, didn't arrive at 14:30. I called her and she said traffic was bad but she was close by. She arrived at 15:00. I almost called it off.

She appologized for being late and started right into it. Nice kissing but then the dreaded cbj. Couldn't believe it. Two girls from bomboa giving cbj. I would never have guessed it.

Just like the other girl from bomboa, she was fun, but the cbj just didn't do it for me. If not for the cbj, I would recommend, but unfortunately, since she did a cbj, I don't recommend.

By the time we finished round one, it was about five minutes before 16:00. She wanted to give me another round but I told her I needed more time to recover and if she was on time, we would have done it.

So on that note, we showers and ended the session. When time for payment, I gave her r$ 400 and told her I was deducting the amount for being late. She was cool with that and said next time she would be on time.

Not the great bang I was expecting for the final day but it will do.

A funny thing happened on the way to the airport. While riding in the back seat of the taxi, we get on their so called freeway. There is a bus going the same direction as us but about 3 lanes over.

As I'am staring into space thinking I can't believe I have to come home, I yawn. As I'am yawning I look at the bus and a very cute girl, I say about 18 and very pretty, mimic my yawn while looking at me. I look back at her and laugh, she looks at me and laughs back.

I give her sign language saying I'am leaving for the airport and make like I'am crying. She starts to laugh and gives me signals not to leave. But alas, her bus is getting off, I start to blow kisses at her, she then blows kisses back to me. Even though I will probably never hook up with this girl, this is the perfect example of why I love coming back to this country.

This and not the session before it, made my final day a special one

Balluba
09-29-08, 09:49
This and not the session before it, made my final day a special one

I am at work right now, and after reading You Rio reports, I have decided to read these new SP reports after work, in company with a nice cup of coffee. Thank You !

Genghis Khan
09-29-08, 11:06
Really nice reports! If you enjoy Jun Sakamoto you should try the newly reopened and relocated Japanese restaurant Kinoshita. Be sure to order the Menu Degustation and ask for the sake marinated Lychee fruits filled with foie gras and topped with truffle and salmon roe or the fresh scallops topped with warm truffle oil and parmesan shavings. This place is better than Jun Sakamoto in my opinion.

The prices at Cafe Photo is is varying according to which girl you pick up if it is a slow night and your negotiation skills. On my last trip I usually managed to negotiate the price down to R$500 for the night, but one particualr diamond I took on a slow day without much competition for her was much more (still worth it though).

You didn't try Garden Club? Just as many lookers as Cafe Photo but with a more informal and relaxed atmosphere and lower prices.

Please PM me - I think I have some interesting info for you!

Take care,
GK

Azn Safado
09-30-08, 05:58
Quackup, I enjoyed reading both your Rio and S/P reports. I've been to Rio 4 times but never S/P. Seems S/P is quite expensive as the Rio Termas you can get out with about R240 damage for an hour at 4x4 after 5pm and R200 before 5pm. The incall action seems like the only good value in S/P.

On a scale of 1 to 10, how would you compare Rio vs S/P as places for P4P?

QuackUp
09-30-08, 07:42
azn,

Since the first time I went to Brazil, Sao Paulo has always been more expensive than Rio. Even when the exchange rate was close to 4:1. It's hard for me to put a number on either Rio or Sao Paulo because I like both.

For sure for the newbie, I would tell them to go to Rio first. It is much easier with the termas and just about everything is easy to get to with the metro system.

In Sao Paulo, it's such a big city, depending on where you are staying, it could become very expensive just to get to a club. Also the traffic in s/p is pretty bad. I live in L.A., where traffic is bad. S/p is worst.

In Rio, you can get any color girl you like, but mostly there are darker skin girls. Most are down to earth and if you connect, it's better than having a girlfriend.

In s/p, you can get any color girl you like, but there are more light skin girls.
The girls here are, for lack of a better word, more sophisticated. I don't mean to imply they are snobish or arrogant, but usually they are better dressed ( if you go to dinner, they dress to impress without overdoing it).

Also in s/p, before all the closures, it was easier, with the right connection, to date a celebrity, or a playboy, sexy and I can't remember the name of the other magazine model.

In Rio you have the terma triangle, 4x4, 65 and cancun. If you can't find a good date between them, you may never find what you are looking for.

Again, this is my view, I'am sure you will have other's inputting their favorite city and why, but for me, I like both. Did I forget to mention the fantastic restaurant in s/p. We will leave that one for another time.

Not sure if this actually answered your question, but I hope it helped.

Q

Tommy America
09-30-08, 21:20
You didn't try Garden Club?

GKInteresting you mention Garden Club. I went there once about a year ago when it reopened. Not much action, but I knew the floor manager from Donna Caffe and he took good care of us.

After a while, we left and made the round of several other clubs. In every case, girls that we knew (and had been friends with for many years) cautioned us about the place --- they said drugs were heavy among the girls there and, the times the police had shut them down, it had been for drugs and not for "business".

I don't know how true that is, but I have been cautious ever since and have not gone back.

I would be interested in hearing from others who have been to Garden Club recently as I will be back in SP in early November.

Azn Safado
10-01-08, 03:34
azn,

Since the first time I went to Brazil, Sao Paulo has always been more expensive than Rio. Even when the exchange rate was close to 4:1. It's hard for me to put a number on either Rio or Sao Paulo because I like both.

For sure for the newbie, I would tell them to go to Rio first. It is much easier with the termas and just about everything is easy to get to with the metro system.

In Sao Paulo, it's such a big city, depending on where you are staying, it could become very expensive just to get to a club. Also the traffic in s/p is pretty bad. I live in L.A., where traffic is bad. S/p is worst.

In Rio, you can get any color girl you like, but mostly there are darker skin girls. Most are down to earth and if you connect, it's better than having a girlfriend.

In s/p, you can get any color girl you like, but there are more light skin girls.
The girls here are, for lack of a better word, more sophisticated. I don't mean to imply they are snobish or arrogant, but usually they are better dressed ( if you go to dinner, they dress to impress without overdoing it).

Also in s/p, before all the closures, it was easier, with the right connection, to date a celebrity, or a playboy, sexy and I can't remember the name of the other magazine model.

In Rio you have the terma triangle, 4x4, 65 and cancun. If you can't find a good date between them, you may never find what you are looking for.

Again, this is my view, I'am sure you will have other's inputting their favorite city and why, but for me, I like both. Did I forget to mention the fantastic restaurant in s/p. We will leave that one for another time.

Not sure if this actually answered your question, but I hope it helped.

Q
Quackup, thanks for the comparisons. It helps me understand the differences now. If I ever make it to S/P, I will definitely try some of their restaurants and then try to hookup with a pornstar like Patricia Kimberly. I hear her rate is pretty normal - something like R250 for 2 hours.

Hobbying
10-01-08, 13:14
Fyi Quackup, the girls that come at 2pm leave around 8pm so they can go with you then so you can avoid paying the club's takeout fee. This was told to me by the host there. But the quantity and quality is not as the night shift girls.

Houston Player
10-01-08, 19:10
Ricker,

I think it's funny the way you mix your Spanish and Portuguese.

I bet all the girls think it's cute too.

Ricker
10-02-08, 01:12
Ricker,

I think it's funny the way you mix your Spanish and Portuguese.

I bet all the girls think it's cute too.

Can't help it amigo ... 15 years of spanish and about 8 months now of learning portuguese. The spanish is bound to come out :)
I'm getting better though.

Genghis Khan
10-03-08, 15:44
Interesting you mention Garden Club. I went there once about a year ago when it reopened. Not much action, but I knew the floor manager from Donna Caffe and he took good care of us.

After a while, we left and made the round of several other clubs. In every case, girls that we knew (and had been friends with for many years) cautioned us about the place --- they said drugs were heavy among the girls there and, the times the police had shut them down, it had been for drugs and not for "business".

I don't know how true that is, but I have been cautious ever since and have not gone back.

I would be interested in hearing from others who have been to Garden Club recently as I will be back in SP in early November.

What you heard is correct but the the house has now opened again and the strip podium is now a bar. The rooms in the house are no longer available for sexual activites and the house generally works like Cafe Photo now. You negotiate the price with the girl directly and pay her and not the club. I was at Garden Club 9 nights in a row during June/July and I think its the bests house in town (that I know of). Some of the girls works both Garden Club and Cafe Photo.

GK

Tommy America
10-03-08, 21:28
What you heard is correct but the the house has now opened again and the strip podium is now a bar. The rooms in the house are no longer available for sexual activites and the house generally works like Cafe Photo now. You negotiate the price with the girl directly and pay her and not the club. I was at Garden Club 9 nights in a row during June/July and I think its the bests house in town (that I know of). Some of the girls works both Garden Club and Cafe Photo.

GKGood to know.

I will make it a point to stop by the next time I return to Sao Paulo.

Thanks!

Albert Punter
10-04-08, 15:58
Gosh, I am not updated ?
Maybe I should RTFF.

Has Cafe Photo re-opened ?




...
Some of the girls works both Garden Club and Cafe Photo.

GK

Brain666
10-04-08, 17:45
So friends in Brazil.

I still owe you my report from my last June 2008 business trip. It’s a bit long time ago, so all I mention is dated the beginning of June.

It was my 3rd trip to Brazil.

Not sure if some remember, but last 2 times I had a lot of sessions with my dream GFE ‘Simone’ from EU& Elas including once a double with her friend. One of the best sessions I ever had. Here are the links to my old posts

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=646072&postcount=1083
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=646074&postcount=1084

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=676465&postcount=1256
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=676465&postcount=1257
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=676465&postcount=1258

A true mega GFE and we came extremely good along. She was intending to leave the business to take care of some baby (not hers).

So for my next trip now after more the ½ year I tried to contact her by E-mail (Google Portuguese translator) and phone, but was unsuccessful.

So I had t to find other adventures in an extremely pressured business trip with not much spare time for mongering.

Having no time and 3 nights, but only 2 for little secret mongering available I decided not to risk new adventures (even if the forum allows reference for many choices), but run in known paths to be effective.

Part 1 adventure:
So I chose to go back to EU&Elas again with a little rest hope to meet Simone again.
I was unsure if EU&Elas was eventually also hit by the crackdown, but I was glad to see it in full operation.

For people who don’t know, as it is almost never written about this place, EU&Elas seems to be some kind of middle class Termas spot, compared to the old luxury spots probably 2nd grade, but it has a 37 year history.

Entrance is 89 Reais, which includes the buffet and 2 drinks. Somehow reasonable.
The girls are not necessarily top class, and my Simone was missing, but you find nice ones in the range of 6-8+ with average of about 7-7,5. They remembered me in EU&Elas and my story with Simone.

I was rather late so not much time to relax in the terma. I chose a black haired girl an 8 (sorry forgot name) and we went to a 1 h session. Tried to ask for 100, but as already experienced last time the usual price for 1h is 150 Rs. So I accepted the counter offer.
The session was pretty ok but also not that outstanding (still I remember my sessions with Simone and Patricia Kimberly at my last trips) given my extremely good paste experiences. All girls are GFE types, so it seems pretty standard, so I wouldn’t expect somebody to fail in this place. Of course always chemistry is where YMMV or exceed. Would like to read more reports about this place for a broader evaluation. I ended up paying 290 Rs with incl. a 50 RS room kit.

Part 2 adventure:
After the session, I had already my clothes on and was having my last drink, almost all girls had already left, my eyes noticed a very slim and tall blonde Garota – Sally as it turned out. Nice face and figure a touch of my lovely Simone, but white skin. We came into ‘talk’ (none Portuguese to none English) and agreed that she comes with me to my room for 2 h and 200 Rs. (she asked for 200 1h first but instead of price down I requested 2h for same price – I had to take into account my long trip from Seoul + already 1 round of girl). I was already tired, but given the beauty I also couldn’t resist.
Hotel Renaissance asks and registers the ID, but no extra charge on the bill (which is not good on a company bill). In the room Sally turns out to be a good girl friend experience ready to enjoy herself and to please. I was already more then a bit worn out and tired, so it was almost impossible to come for me, but she managed perfectly with all of efforts. She spent enough time, was not pushy, allowed also me to please her and finally managed to squeeze out the last little drip.
The figure of 19-year-old Sally is definitely in nice shape to my liking, however after removing all clothes I noticed a lot of stretch marks from a very recent baby she had. Nothing to see from the baby figure-wise and also pussy did obviously keep tight enough, but the stretch marks are definitely more then I ever have seen before, a bit of a turn down (no wonder probably, a slim to spinner type with a baby). She makes up for it with her nice attitude, is accommodating and generally a nice girl.
She definitely should get some surgery to improve the stomach looks, ruins probably the one or other great chance.

She is up for more and repeats, told me she liked the session (ok ok and the money, which she didn’t tell) asked me to repeat with her. Asked if she could be regular girlfriend, as she liked how I treat women. I can call her and she would come after ‘work’ to my hotel (this would save entrance fee). She can’t stay all night (baby), but some 3-4h would be ok. An advantage is that she may accept 200 or 250 for 3-4h, which is somehow reasonable.
Anyhow I told her that I would call her when I will be next in town and she left with a lot of deep kisses.

Part 3 adventure

The last night I was able to monger, I again wanted to be on the save side and I had already just after arrival arranged the 2nd evening was reserved fro Patricia Kimberly. I was lucky that she had time, she remembered me on the phone as the one with the ‘best tongue and kisses and was looking forward to see me. We agreed to 400 Rs for 3h +Taxi where she asks for the real amount and no surcharge (it was 18 rs from her apartment). An all nighter would have been 600 Rs, which I will consider next time. I was trying to rebook her for the whole night but she apologised, as she had to go to some government place next morning. By the way, she speaks well English, not a natural speaker (I am none either), but way enough for good conversation of any type.

She arrived absolutely on time and greeted me in front of Hotel, where I waited for her Taxi to arrive, like an old friend. She was looking nice, only little makeup like women who go out (see photo’s). I could have gone with her to any diner and club and you can take her everywhere, introduce her as your girlfriend and nobody may notice her job. Good adopted attitude at any occasion.

I am not sure how to describe further:
Patricia Kimberly comes across like a real live girlfriend may not be able to beat. You can love this girl, regardless her job. She would be the perfect girlfriend.
She has the nicest body according to my taste. She shows her natural skin with almost no makeup, no ambition to hide anything. You can talk with her about everything, the job, politics, world climate, travel, … .She is absolutely honest in all she talks, no fakes no hides.
She told me a lot about her life, the Brazilian porn scene, and her family.
In the bed she seems to like everything. She pleases you as you like and accommodates to the style you prefer. But the softer style is more appreciated. She also likes to be treated well, and rather smooth with kisses. As I had 3h and still had the last night with Sally and the flight in the bones, I spent a long time on DATY, She appreciated and enjoyed, she noted that I found her sweet spots (I will not tell you guys, you need to find out yourself), much to her liking, but she didn’t come at the end and she didn’t either try to fake it. Just natural. Probably no girlfriend can be more natural.
She just relaxed and enjoyed. She spent a long time for blowing me, an expert which I didn’t remember from last time so good (or I was just in 7 heaven) and finished CIM. She didn’t swallow all (maybe a little), but didn’t panic to the bath either, about 3-5 minutes later together with a little break we did.
I think I don’t need to describe more details. It is just unbelievable the mixture of a professional sexually absolutely satisfying result and an absolutely natural behave with not any sign of professional attitude.
As I said, the overall is hard to beat for a real live girlfriend. You wish that Patricia were the one. I came extremely well along with her and probably we clicked a bit with our both attitudes, however I believe she comes well along with most of the members. Never heard about a bad review yet. Not sure how this can be topped (ok with Simone came very close).

Ok at the end of course there is still the business result and a payment which brings you a bit back in reality, even if the experience was reality itself. Repeat ensured.

She allowed photos in the room and as there are so many around from her, I do not think I need to hide face and other parts. It shows the natural girl life as she was in front of my camera, and me after the session and therefore not always 100% sharp. Isn’t she nice, so live? Love her!

Can’t wait to come back to Brazil and see Patricia again.

Regards

Brain666

Tjmee
10-05-08, 05:14
Nice report brain, nice choice too!

Genghis Khan
10-07-08, 09:29
Gosh, I am not updated ?
Maybe I should RTFF.

Has Cafe Photo re-opened ?

Cafe Photo was never closed.

GK

Albert Punter
10-08-08, 02:30
Actually, I have heard in and out of the mongering scene that Cafe Photo had been closed and owner had opened a new club, a little out of town.
Also, I had heard that Cafe Photo owner had problem with one of his buildings which was too high or built in landing path to Congonhas.

Well, definitely, I should RTTF.



Cafe Photo was never closed.

GK

Big Boss Man
10-08-08, 02:48
With all due respect Albert I think you confusing Cafe Photo and Bahamas. I posted this story awhile back.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=677694&highlight=bahamas#post677694

Albert Punter
10-08-08, 06:36
Yes, you are right, I just confused Cafe Photo with Bahamas.
Thanks for clarifying my doubts.


With all due respect Albert I think you confusing Cafe Photo and Bahamas. I posted this story awhile back.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=677694&highlight=bahamas#post677694

Raiders
10-09-08, 19:01
Does anyone have any updates on the status of WE?

When they were shut down earlier in the year I had assumed they would be eventually be back given Washington and Edson's long time involvement in the business. Given the news paper reports when they were shut down perhaps their police and legal issues are more complicated than with some of the other places that did re-open.

Fla_FunMeister
10-11-08, 23:12
I keep seeing the abbreviation TLN after the price of a girl. I searched the forums, but cannot find what it means. A little help?

Sperto
10-11-08, 23:36
I keep seeing the abbreviation TLN after the price of a girl. I searched the forums, but cannot find what it means. A little help?
"TLN Toda La Noche ("All the Night" in Spanish)".
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1897

Fla_FunMeister
10-18-08, 21:56
"TLN Toda La Noche ("All the Night" in Spanish)".
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1897
Obrigato. Makes it seem much cheaper.

Sui Generis
10-20-08, 15:56
In Brazil, the acronym TLN is not really used. It's more usual to speak in terms of PERNOITE (the whole night) or the verb PERNOITAR (spending the whole night).

Joe47
10-23-08, 00:30
Hello,

I will be next week at Sao Paulo and I will stay in Renaissance hotel. Any problem to take the girl in my room. Please any guy has been in Renaissance hotel can tell me if we have some problems to go to the room with Garota.

Thanks,

Joe

John Corey
10-23-08, 13:39
Hello,

I will be next week at Sao Paulo and I will stay in Renaissance hotel. Any problem to take the girl in my room. Please any guy has been in Renaissance hotel can tell me if we have some problems to go to the room with Garota.

Thanks,

JoeThere is no problem bringing in a girl to your room, however, she will have to register at the reception counter. Good hotel, great location.

Pelicano
10-26-08, 14:35
On my way to Manus, via Sao Paulo on Tam, I stayed at the Hotel Itamaraty near Praca da Republica for 2 days at 70 reais per day at the end of September. Small but comfortable apartment, excellent breakfast, in room safe and plenty of central heater hot water. Several low cost venues within walking distance, including a couple of sleazy movie theaters. Easy access to the Republica metro station and the bus to the international Airport has a stop nearby as well, a bargain at 28 reais.

Checked in, took a bath and slept a few hours and awoke at 3 PM and took off to my oasis in Sao Paulo, the Teatro Orion. www.teatroorion.com.br
Paid the 13 Reais entrance fee and was checked in by the guy with the metal detector, my pocket rocket set off the detector, so I showed it to him and told him it was a flashlight and I was in.

I sat down in my prefered area, mid theater off to the right side and within minutes my favorite, Caroll was on my lap and all over me. She looked great; she had lost some weight, had her hair and teeth straightened since I last saw her in November 2007. I didn´t even have time to watch a single strip show and it was off to the suite, where she promised to make up for lost time. The suite is quite clean, has a porn chanel TV, an electric shower, toilett and sink. Cost for the suite was 40 reais for 1 hour and my usual 100 reais for Caroll.(Others will probably ask for 150 for 45 minutes, but you can negotiate as they keep whatever they agree upon with you).

It was a whole hour of nonstop wild GFE/PSE sex in all variations and she just would not quit until i was totaly drained. After this adventure, I was realy tired had to go back to the hotel, to sllep off my 16 hour bus trip. I slept until the next morning and agreed to see her again othe next day at 2 PM. I took care of some business the next morning using the metro and a bus to get to my destination, then at 2 PM I was back again at the Orion and took her for another hour. Caroll totaly drained me again and after this, I decided to wait for her to do her strip show. Management had given her a couple shots of vodka to enhance her performance, after which she was wild again and I just had to muster a second wave of energy and go for it all over again, as i would be leaving in the morning. The second session was better than the first and after that I went out to eat and then returned to watch all the strip shows untill 11 pm, when I left to go to sleep as I had to get up early to get the bus to the airport for a 9 AM flight to Manus.

DJ FourMoney
10-28-08, 12:20
Okay after thinking it over a bit and while flying to Europe in early March/April is very affordable (less than $700 RT) it was mainly to seek non-pro talent mined from the diamond mine that is the internet...

Realistic hopes of nailing Non-Pros in Sampa is slim and none since I hardly speak the native tongue. But with TMO G1 in hand, speak into phone translation I think I can get by with providers don't you think - ;)

So I have visions of having sex until I just can't have sex anymore with many fair skinned ladies, which is why Sampa is my first choice, unless you can think of another one...

The question is, how much of a "Beer Drinker's" budget should I go with?

I figure 10 days is enough, maybe 14 days if I add Argentina to the list...

Is using the $100US a day rule good enough? I can live on a steady diet Micky D's if needed and can sample some of the affordable local food a bit without breaking the bank.

Any of you budget mongers in SP have any tips???

I'm thinking apartment instead of hotels or maybe a hostel or do mostly in-calls, is this dangerous for a newbie?

Or should I even forget SP and do Rio, is that a better place for a first timer?

I've been reading this forum with envy for years now, its time to take action!

Jake993
10-28-08, 13:26
Or should I even forget SP and do Rio, is that a better place for a first timer?

I've been reading this forum with envy for years now, its time to take action!
IMHO - Your money will go much further in Rio. All things considered, you will spend more in SP. Unless you are in SP on business and have expenses subsidized- don't bother. Again, just my humble opinion.

El Greco
10-28-08, 16:38
Is using the $100US a day rule good enough? I can live on a steady diet Micky D's if needed and can sample some of the affordable local food a bit without breaking the bank.



You need:

Food 40-60 Reais for two meals in a kilo restaurant in Copa
Girls 100-150 Unless you go to the 1reais/min places
250-300 For 1hr in a Terma
Drinks 30-40 For beers depending how much you want to drink

So you can have some reasonable time for 230 Reais=$100usd if accomodation is not included.
Otherwise you will have to add at least another $40-60 usd

In Buenos Aires everything is much cheaper but no Termas nor beaches there not to mention the Brasilian bundas.

DJ FourMoney
10-28-08, 19:41
You need:

Food 40-60 Reais for two meals in a kilo restaurant in Copa
Girls 100-150 Unless you go to the 1reais/min places
250-300 For 1hr in a Terma
Drinks 30-40 For beers depending how much you want to drink

So you can have some reasonable time for 230 Reais=$100usd if accomodation is not included.
Otherwise you will have to add at least another $40-60 usd

In Buenos Aires everything is much cheaper but no Termas nor beaches there not to mention the Brasilian bundas.

Thanks El Greco...

I don't drink Beer, maybe have a drink once in a blue moon.

So its very doable....

Let me work out the logistics a bit more. I was looking at Hostels, nice and cheap, but no business in Sampa other than too, you know... Touristy stuff during the day (maybe Clinic or two), straight up debauchery at night. I think 3 days might be enough in SP.

Which night is best for Love Story? I also heard about The Week as well, in the same areas???

I'll pour over Pluto2's Directory again see if I can some answers to that.

DJ FourMoney
10-28-08, 19:53
IMHO - Your money will go much further in Rio. All things considered, you will spend more in SP. Unless you are in SP on business and have expenses subsidized- don't bother. Again, just my humble opinion.

How much more???

Jake993
10-28-08, 20:21
How much more???
I found that getting around Sao Paulo is expensive relative to Rio. I dunno - it's probably my imagination as I am much more familiar with Rio than Sao Paulo. Don't get me wrong, Sao Paulo is a GREAT city- great bars, wonderful restaurants, interesting music. But if you are on a mongering vacation and it's your first time to Brazil, everything seems to be more..... efficient. GDP's in Copacabana, Termas and Massage places in Centro, plenty of cheap places to eat and drink.

When I go to Sao Paulo I just seem to burn through money much faster than in Rio - and not on girls, but restaurants, taxi, booze. And most of that is by choice I admit. I am a sucker for a great restaurant or a cool bar and and up spending more money that I should. It's just "that" much more sophisticated.

So to answer your question directly, I woulds not be surprised if you could get away with spending half to three quarters in Rio of what you would spend in SP (exclusive of girls) and still have a good time.

DJ FourMoney
10-28-08, 21:29
I found that getting around Sao Paulo is expensive relative to Rio. I dunno - it's probably my imagination as I am much more familiar with Rio than Sao Paulo. Don't get me wrong, Sao Paulo is a GREAT city- great bars, wonderful restaurants, interesting music. But if you are on a mongering vacation and it's your first time to Brazil, everything seems to be more..... efficient. GDP's in Copacabana, Termas and Massage places in Centro, plenty of cheap places to eat and drink.

When I go to Sao Paulo I just seem to burn through money much faster than in Rio - and not on girls, but restaurants, taxi, booze. And most of that is by choice I admit. I am a sucker for a great restaurant or a cool bar and and up spending more money that I should. It's just "that" much more sophisticated.

So to answer your question directly, I woulds not be surprised if you could get away with spending half to three quarters in Rio of what you would spend in SP (exclusive of girls) and still have a good time.

Thanks, well I guess it depends on who I end up socializing with. I'll take in whatever Sampa has to offer really. I'll look deeper into both...

Sui Generis
10-29-08, 15:58
I found that getting around Sao Paulo is expensive relative to Rio. But if you are on a mongering vacation and it's your first time to Brazil, everything seems to be more..... efficient. GDP's in Copacabana, Termas and Massage places in Centro, plenty of cheap places to eat and drink.
So to answer your question directly, I woulds not be surprised if you could get away with spending half to three quarters in Rio of what you would spend in SP (exclusive of girls) and still have a good time.

Jake993.

Thanks. Very illuminating and honest answer. I almost totally agree with you.

I side with you when it comes to send a newby in Brazil. Rio is the best place to start hobbying. When you stay in Copacabana everything is not far: boates, termas and - if you are fluent - you can have access to the private flats of some garotas. And thoses beaches!!!! Wow, an easy spot to pick up girls...

However, I disagree with you on the following one. It's not really more expensive to travel within São Paulo than Rio. It's easy and not expensive to travel with the public transportation service in São Paulo. If you know where to go - and can aptly orient yourself in this mega city - buses and metros (subway) are very effective and quick means of transportation. Late at night, you'll have to take a cab, but then the circulation is more fluid and you will save money on the fare of the taxi run. I agree with you that a taxi ride in São Paulo during the day can be a nightmare, an expensive one!

The problem with São Paulo is to find the right location to stay. I wrote several times on this board that for me the best place in São Paulo - for mongering activities - is Moema. From there you have easy access to Vila Mariana (where there are very interesting prives), Brooklin Novo (outstanding privés and clinica: Kin, Prive do HectorII), and several boates in Moema (including swing clubs like Nefertiti). This neigbourghood is very quiet - sometimes I walk there late at night - and there's a lot of restaurants. Finally most garotas live there. For R$200 - only if you're fluent though - you can stay the whole night (pernoite) with a garota.

Another good spot is Jardim. The same concentration of garotas but it's a little bit farther from the good boates in São Paulo (which are closer to Moema).

I wrote several years ago that hobbying in Rio is easy (and less stressful) because it' s like fishing alevins (young fishs) in a pound while hobbying in Sampa it's fishing in the open sea. As I am a sportsman, this is the reaon why I prefer São Paulo. But there's not doubt about it: for a beginner, Rio is the place to go first.

By the way, I'll be in São Paulo the following dates : 1/11/2008 to 13/11/2008. Just PM me if you want more informations or if you want a wingman.

Jake993
10-29-08, 16:07
Jake993.

Thanks. Very illuminating and honest answer. I almost totally agree with you.

I side with you when it comes to send a newby in Brazil. Rio is the best place to start hobbying. When you stay in Copacabana everything is not : far, boates, termas and - if you are fluent - you can have access to the private falts of some garotas. And thoses beaches!!!! Wow, an easy spot to pick up girls...

However, I disagree with you on the following one. It's not really more expensive to travel within São Paulo than Rio. It's easy, and not expensive to travel with the public transportation service in São Paulo. If you know where to go - and can aptly orient yourself in this mega city - bus and metro (subway) are very effective and quick means of transportation. Late at night, you'll have to take a cab, but then the circulation is more fluid and you will save money on the fare of the taxi run.

The problem with São Paulo is to find the right location to stay. I wrote several times on this board that for me the best place in São Paulo - for mongering activities - is Moema. From there you have easy access to Vila Mariana (where there are very interesting prives), Brooklin Novo (outstanding privés and clinica: Kin, Prive do HectorII), and several boates in Moema (including swing clubs like Nefertiti). This neigboughhood is very quiet - sometimes I walk there late at night - and there's a lot of restaurants. Finally most garotas live there. For R$200 - only if you're fluent though - you can stay the whole night (pernoite) with a garota.

Another good spot is Jardim. The same concentration of garotas but it's a little bit farther from the good boates in São Paulo (which are closer to Moema).

I wrote several years ago that hobbying in Rio is easy (and less stressful) because it' s like fishing alevins (young fishs) in a pound while hobbying in Sampa it's fishing in the open sea. As I am a sportsman, this is the reaon why I prefer São Paulo. But there's not doubt about it: for a beginner, Rio is the place to go first.

By the way, I'll be in São Paulo the following dates : 1/11/2008 to 13/11/2008. Just PM me if you want more informations or if you want a wingman.

SG,
I most certainly defer to your experience when it comes to Sampa. I really do speak from inexperience when it comes to SP. All of my trips to Sampa seem to be rushed and short. Usually because I want to get in - get out and get to Rio - ha, ha, ha!

Seriously, though - I do need to resist the urge to get to Rio (familiar territory) and stay a while in Sampa. My Portuguese is good enough to communicate comfortably so there's no reason not to give it more of a chance. I am probably missing out!!!!

Obrigado e Boa sorte.

Italy 1974
10-30-08, 02:00
This a report of a 4-days business trip I made in Sao Paulo at the beginning of October.

I start with the day 1.

DAY 1

My trip to Sao Paulo started in the best possible way: at Frankfurt airport I was kindly upgraded from Business class to First class on my Lufthansa flight.

After a perfect flight (I could sleep a lot and that is very important for me in order to perform at my best on the following day. I am referring to the night activities of course…) my arrival at Cumbica International Airport (best known as Guarulhos) was exactly on time at 7.30 AM and in less than 30 minutes I was on the car sent to pick me up by my “paulista” business partner.

The trip to my the Intercontinental hotel required almost one hour, not so much considering the distance (more or less 35 km) and the peak-hour traffic. The hotel is convenient located in Alameda Santos (close to Avenida Paulista) that means it is not far from all my points of interest.

After a quick shower (and a long look to the cute receptionist…) at 10.15 I was back into the car, heading to my business partner ( I will call him Jairo from now on) office where I arrived at quarter to 11. The following 5 hours were spent discussing business matters not so important to write about here…

I have been knowing Jairo since 2000 and we are sort of friends so we agreed to meet for dinner later in the evening. In fact the dinner is an excuse he needs to have some time free from his wife on that night (third wife actually, and 30 years younger than him…) and the meeting was set for 7 o’clock PM at my hotel.

He arrived twenty minutes before 7 and shortly after 7 PM we were entering Bomboa American Bar that is in Pinheiros, just a half an hour car ride (in peak hours) from the Intercontinental hotel.

Without entering into details too much, Bomboa is a big bar (actually one of the best in town: in my personal view only the Bahamas -in Moema- ranks better; Café Photo –in Conceicao- is also very good place, even if a little bit overrated, but it has no room for fun so, being Jairo married and needing “safe place” to play, it was not on our menu from the beginning) where after paying 180 Reais (60 Euro) you can enjoy live music, free buffet (great food, really good), free soft-drinks and beers.
I forgot: the place is packed with hot girls.

We took our time: some chat, some drinks, some more chat with the girls, some more drinks, a couple of visit to the buffet and we were ready for some serious action.

I was looking for Pamela, a hot girl I fucked in one of the last trip to San Paulo, but she didn’t seem to be present. I called her mobile but it was switched off so I opted (upon suggestion from Jairo) for Ingrid, a petite blonde -21 years old- with big tits and a nice tattoo on her back.

We went to the room where he performed as expected (she was –of course- complete: it means that she performs anal): BBBJ, some position, anal and come on face; after ten minutes I was still horny so I asked her to give a BBBJ. She obliged with a nice come in mouth final.

Total damage: 100 Reais (35 Euro) for the room (1 hour) and 350 Reais (120 Euro) for the girl.

As I came back to our table (Jairo has a card for the VIP area, a fair reward for all the money he has been spending at Bomboa) Jairo was there waiting for me. Her girl (a long-legged brunette of 18 years old) was great and I put a note in my mind to come bak on the folowing day to pay her my respects.

He told me that he has to go home (it was already 1 AM). I kindly declined because I have noticed a missed call (I had switched off my phone during fucking) on my mobile: it was Pamela!

I called her and she told me that she was on her way to Bomboa.

She made her appearance at Bomboa in half an hour wearing a very short green dress and nothing else except high heels shoes. No need to say that after 2 hours of chatting, drinking and dancing we left the bar for the hotel (where, if you are discreet and give some Reais to the night manager you can bring a girl to your room).

Pamela is a blonde girl of 24 years with big tits (well, tits are really my thing…) and a wonderful ass; she comes from the northern state of Paranà and she is –of course- complete.

Her performance in the sack is amazing: she is really energetic, if you know what I mean.

And also that night she performed very, very well.

To be continued

Italy 1974

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Sui Generis
10-30-08, 19:31
For those interested in discovering an other aspect of hobbying in Sampa
I organize a trash tour 8th November 2008 at noon. We will meet at the bar besides Salada Disco near São Jão and Ipiranga (close to Bar Brahma)

Up to now, two of my Brazilian friends from the national forum will attend the tour.

For those who want to join us, PM me.

Libert
10-30-08, 20:58
Checked in, took a bath and slept a few hours and awoke at 3 PM and took off to my oasis in Sao Paulo, the Teatro Orion. www.teatroorion.com.brThanks Pelicano!

I checked this out yesterday, and found it definitely worth my time. A good cheap way to see lots of garotas (beer is only R3), and at R100 an hour (I was charged R20 for the room, but it was a different time), a good way to have some fun.

Any other suggestions?!

DJ FourMoney
10-30-08, 22:27
For those interested in discovering an other aspect of hobbying in Sampa
I organize a trash tour 8th November 2008 at noon. We will meet at the bar besides Salada Disco near São Jão and Ipiranga (close to Bar Brahma)

Up to now, two of my Brazilian friends from the national forum will attend the tour.

For those who want to join us, PM me.

Trash Tour???

Elaborate please...

Sui Generis
11-01-08, 16:23
Sorry for the delayed answer...

A Trash Tour is a visit of the most infamous spots in São Paulo. I mean by that: the several storeys building in Liberdade and near Praça da República (Itaiaia), the sleazy bars on Consolação, the street workers behind Praça da Sé, the porno theaters, theatro Orion, Estação da Luz, etc.

In a nutshell, all the places a stranger might be afraid to visit by himself.

Sperto
11-01-08, 18:22
A Trash Tour is a visit of the most infamous spots in São Paulo. I mean by that: the several storeys building in Liberdade and near Praça da República (Itaiaia), the sleazy bars on Consolação, the street workers behind Praça da Sé, the porno theaters, theatro Orion, Estação da Luz, etc.
And that means really TRASHY. As I'm bit of a trash-fan I've been to all the places you mentioned. My conclusion was that the trash in Sampa makes the trash in Rio look glamorous.

Anyway I'm sure you'll all have fun. Specially as among all that trash there might be some gems.

The porno theaters were really kinky. When I bought a beer (R$ 10) there was a blowjob included. I declined, as the woman who was going to givet it looked like somebodys old grandmother.

Pelicano
11-01-08, 22:08
Thanks Pelicano!

I checked this out yesterday, and found it definitely worth my time. A good cheap way to see lots of garotas (beer is only R3), and at R100 an hour (I was charged R20 for the room, but it was a different time), a good way to have some fun.

Any other suggestions?!
I am totaly adicted to there, so I have not found anything close to that in that price range. There are many low cost options(30-60 reais) in Liberdade, but haven´t had the time or the need to go there yet.
Went to Eu&Ellas, last year, but it seemed like a frat house atmosphere. Free buffet of finger food, clean sauna and showers. We wore robes and the garotas had long dresses on. Many were a little chubby and most were standofish and only on certain days they wear bikinis. 80 reais entrance and 150 for garota in the public room, the private rooms ran an extra 40-60 or so reais. Get the metro to praça da arvore and then a taxit to get there.

Italy 1974
11-02-08, 02:45
Following the day 1, here is:

DAY 2

The second day of my trip opened in the best possible way: around 10 o'clock Pamela woke me up with a BBBJ.

A nice 69 followed on the menu and a good fuck wit COB (o better, come on tits) closed the morning business. She is really a girl worthing every Euro spent with her!
At the end of round two a weird thing happened: Pamela told me that she would like to have sex with me without condom. I ask why and she replied that she likes me very much and she wants to show me that.

A warning light start blinking in my mind: this kind of sentence from a brazilian girl means only one thing: she thinks that you are a good prospect for her future and she behaves accordingly.

These girls are very clever when coming to relationships and they know all the means to let a man fall for them.

Usually it starts with free fucking, followed by a paid long-time relationship (or worse: marriage).

I am old enough to know all this bullshit and bastard enough to know what I want from my life (fuck the highest possible number of hot pussies), so I told her some sweet words (useful in case we meet each other again) and suggested to go to have a breakfast beside the swimming pool, knowing she had a bikini in her handbag.
Actually the bikini was a micro-bikini but who am I to complain? Neither any complain came from the males around the pool even if some women raised theirs eyebrowns at Pamela arrival.

After the breakfast I was horny once again but I had no time to waste as I had set up 2 meetings in the afternoon with the first one at 2.30 PM.

I was crying inside but I had to send home Pamela.

We kissed goodbye, promised to call her tomorrow (I lied telling her that I had a boring business dinner that night) and gave her 400 Reais (145 Euro).

In less than one hour, after shave and shower, I was on a car heading to my first meeting.

After experiencing the infamous Sao Paulo traffic (really a nightmare) I managed to survive both meetings and by 8 PM I was back at Intercontinental.

A quick shower and I was ready for the action: the target was the Café Photo (in Conceição) where I arrived around 9.00. I hade chosen the Café Foto despite the absence of rooms on spot, but because Jairo had called me in the afternoon to tell me that he couldn’t join me that night, the rooms were not an issue.

The Café Photo is a nice bar with some charme and lots of hot "garotas".

The entrance fee is 140 Reais (50 Euro) and 4 beers are included in the entrance fee.
Food is good and you can order “ a la carte”: I ate a Chateaubriand steak with pommes frites and a couple of glasses of red wine.

After eating I got few beers and I started hunting.

Soon I put my eyes on a nice petite brunette called Juliana, a 22 years old paulista wit a wonderful Brazilian ass.

After 15 minutes I was ready to invite her to my room and I did it.

She told me that she preferred to go to a motel because the morning after she had to wake up early to go to the university.

This sentence should have make some bells ringing in my head (warning bells!) but I was almost drunk and instead to tell her to leave me alone I followed her in the taxi who drove us to a not-so-far motel.

Sex was a disaster: fake moaning also when I was not doing her anything, very short BBBJ and really one of the worst fuck of the whole year.

I gave her 200 Reais. and 5 minutes after I was on a taxi on my way to Intercontinental Hotel.

As I was approaching the hotel an idea started to crawl in my mind: what about going to Bamboa?

If I was lucky I could find the 18-years old girl Jairo took last night. Otherwise there were good chances to meet Pamela.

I told the taxi driver to go to Bomboa and at 1 o’clock I was paying the 180 Reais (60 Euro) entry fee.

Pamela didn’t seem to be there but the 18-years girl was dancing just in the middle of the bar.

In less than 5 minutes Camila (that's her name) was sit beside me and after a couple of drinks we left for my hotel.

She is really a stunner with long legs and a flat stomach: I must say that Jairo has good taste!

Sex with her was really nice, not as wild as with Pamela but very intense: anal was not on the menu but BBBj, 69 and some positions were.

The night wrapped an happy couple.

To be continued

Italy 1974

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Tiradentes
11-02-08, 16:36
Dear Forumers,

I thought a lot before posting this info- both afraid of violating any forum rules and/or hurting the live hood of a fellow human being, but at the end of the day I thought it would be best to share the info I know. I am sure that some of you already suspected it too, but now I have proof to back it up:

Beware of some of the escorts in Sao Paulo, since some of them are not really genuine females. For example, take a look at Raquel Morais who advertise here services at malicia.com

(http://www.malicia.com.br/free/acompanhantes/freegirls/show_girl.php?id=6056&cidade=1&descr=0&ordem=1&pagina=8)

‘She’ or more accurately ‘he’ not only used to be a man, but also a shemale pornstar that went by the name of Laura Trajano.

Since Ms Raquel failed to ethically mention that in her bio at malicia, I thought I would to it for her. If you still want to see here, then more power to you. I am not here to judge anybody.

WhoreSeeker
11-02-08, 21:59
I'm staying in Sao Paulo for a couple of weeks over Christmas and want to be near the mongering action. I did some research on hotels and nightlife etc and ended up booking into the Hotel Moncloa on Rua Augusta. It's a mid class hotel with in room wifi (in-room internet is a must for me) and it's costing me 125 reais per night inclusive for a double room for 2 people.

I'm wondering if this is a good choice or whether fellow boarders can give me any other recommendations?

I might head down to Santos for a few days also, after reading some earlier reports about action there. Again, grateful for any further updates on the Santos scene.

DJ FourMoney
11-03-08, 22:55
I've found some real gems among the trash in Sampa.
Made friends with a few who now visit me regularly, they clean up beautifully :)

This is what I heard as well if you go back far enough (thanks Jackson)

Sui -

This is what I THOUGHT you meant. Sorry I can't afford to take off at this moment. If you plan another early next year, I think I can make it!

Sui Generis
11-04-08, 12:56
http://www.clinicakin.com.br/clinica.htm

(Michele´s picture is not on the Web site)


I´m already here since a couple of days but because the Formula One race my thoughts were somewhere else. But now I´m back on track if I could use these words...

As I met thru the Internet a member of this forum who was also in São Paulo (but with a limited knowledge of Portuguese), this fellow American hobbyist asked me if I could show him different places «hors des sentiers battus», beyond the trodden paths.

He proposed me to meet him at Clinica Kin at 4h00pm this Monday afternoon. I arrived 5 minutes before him and I said to the receptionist that I was waiting a «friend» even though I was not knowing that person. She looked at me a little bit perplexed and she said that a man with virtually no knowledge of the Portuguese language had just called her - some 20 minutes before - to reserve for Hannah. [Read my former posts. Hannah is the garota who looks like Penelope Cruz and who speaks a perfect English. She was born in Saudi Arabia and her mother is Brazilian, She went to school in Great Britain)]

I saw a man coming inside at 4h05. I didn´t know if it was my American friend because he was Chinese, or from asian descent. A couple of minutes later, when the receptionist pointed at me to him, he came towards me and asked «Are you SG?» He said to me that he had made a reservation for Hannah but I saw in his eyes that he was not sure anymore if he wanted to stay there or try another place with me. I was right because he asked me if I knew other venues in the viccinity.

- Sure! I know other venues in that hood (Novo Brooklin, on Roque Petroni Blvd), I answered reluctantly. I added - There´s PHQ1 at a walking distance and there´s another one on rua Jaceru. PHQ1 is good but I don´t like Jaceru, because the place stinks and it´s dirty.

We then proceed towards PHQ1, which is located on rua Novo Cancioneiro. A 10/15 minutes walk (The harder was to cross Roque Petroni Blvd. at that time of the day) When we arrived there, I was surpirsed to see that the place was closed. I rang the doorbell but there were nobody inside. Strange! (I´ve just finished to read reports on the Brazilian forum and it seems that the place is closed since the end of October...they were afraid of the Kassab administration who is raging a war - during the festivities of the Formula One race - against prostitution.]

Whe then went back to Clinica Kin. Not exactly though... When went instead to Nova Clinica Berrini (235) which is located just in front of Clinica Kin (237). When went inside and I translated or him the instructions that were given by the owner of the place. Some girls were good (2 of them in the 8/10 range), but my «friend» had problem to decide himself. As it was his last day in Sampa (his plane was scheduled to 11hpm) he was looking for a nice girl who will let him perform anal. I said that I knew one in Moema but unfortunately I didn´t have her phone number with me. My improvised friend´s hotel was located in Itaim Bibi (on Faria Lima), which is after Moema and, cosenquently, on his way home. More hesitation... He finally said to me that he wanted to go back to Clinica Kin and pick up Hannah. We lost almost half an hour to come back to our initial destination... C´est la vie....

When whe went back inside the receptionist and the owners (two fine ladies) were not very happy because he had made a reservation for Hannah before skipping.

Fortunately, Hannah was still available...but that´s not my damn business. (I hope, tough, that he will wrote a report), I come back to mine.

I asked the receptionist that I would like to have the «apresentação» that means that the garotas defile one after the other in front you. They even kiss you on the cheeks!

I made my choice on Michele. What caught my sight was her bunda (ass)... a nice garota with a slim waist and a round and well shaped bunda! The second thing that caught my eyes was her hair. They were long, falling almost to her hips and of a rich ruiva (redhair) hue. She had a nice complexion, a beautiful white girl with a natural tan.

I don´t regret my choice. She was a very fine garota. When I went upstairs with her I could not detached my eyes from her bunda. She was walking with that ginga typical of the Brazilian women.

Before I went into the shower we kissed with passion. She gave me a towel and I washed myself. Then it was her turn. She is maybe 5´7´´ with natural breats - at eyesight a 34 c - and they were firm. The only negative aspect was the two big scars she had on her tummy. As I asked her what they were and she said to me that it was the result of a gall-bladder operation.

I laid down on the flat mattress - that´s maybe a negative aspect (the sole one) of that place. Just besides the massage table, instead of a normal bed there´s only a flat tatami - and she began to kiss me again. She then grabbed her two breasts and she pointed them towards me and asked me to sucked her nipples. The bicos (nipples) were perfect and while I was licking them she was moaning of pleasure, whispering Gostoso! Gostoso! (That´s good! That´s good!)

Then it was her turn to suck me. She gently licked almost every parts of my body: ankles, the upper part of my feet, my knees, my tights, my nipples. She then stopped her exploration of my body to DFK me again.

My little soldier was up. She put it in her mouth and she began to suck it with a good technique. She pointed her ass in front of the side mirror and she asked me to watch her while she was sucking me and playing with her pussy with other hand. She droved me crazy. These beautiful butts with her pinkish wet ****... That was too much for me. I almost shouted : Meia Nove! (69!)

Ahh. Finally her butts were in front of me. I could grab them and like Moses spreading the Dead Sea, I spread her ass in order to put my tongue in her dripping pussy. A moment beyond description...

Time for urgent business now. She put a condom on my erected penis and she began to stride me. Broxei!!!! (My penis went soft!!!!) Oh boy, not that... We then changed position, I was hard again and I took her from behind doogy style (D4 en Portuguese). She even asked me to pulled her hair back vigorously because she likes it when it´s rough. Even if I was excited, I went soft again....

What is the reason of my bad performance. A too long trip (it´s true that it was exhausting), the fact that we skipped Clinica Kin in the first place and we came back later and, then, I perceived that the owner were angry at him (us). Who knows.. The reasons are not important. The facts speak by themsleves in those moments.

Michele didn´t say a word (she´s a pro after all). She then removed the safe (that´s maybee another reason: Brazilian safes are smaller/tighter than american condoms. This is not a joke, believe me!) and she began to suck me again. In few seconds, I was hard again. I asked her to keep on sucking, after a moment when I was close to cum I asked her to suck my balls. I was on my knees, she was in front of me and she asked me to put my finger in her asshole. I did this and she began to suck my scrotum near my asshole. I came almost instantly.

Even if performed badly, I still believe that it was a good session. Michele, originally from Bahia, was a perfect garota. She said to me that she was 28 years old. I dunno...I have to trust her words. One fact is sure, there was no PPP in her discourse (PPP is a Brazilian acronym and it means Papo Padrão Puta: the way that the *****s speak. You know, when an escort is telling you the things that you want to hear: Oh You look so young, you´re handsome, habitually I don´t anal, I´ll do it just for you..; you´re not a customer to me, you´re like my lover.., and so on).


I hope, however, that I will able to put that bad performance behind my head because I want to perform in a better way the days that are coming.


CLINICA KIN WEB SITE:
http://www.clinicakin.com.br/clinica.htm

Price of the session: R$130 (which is about $CDN71). for an hour