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You see some of the Mikeinbrasil girls at the Termas. I have down 5 or so that appear on the mikeinbrasil website in Termas. The problem in locating a specific one is that they tend to come and go and move around a bit.Do you mind giving the names of the 5? Thanks.
I can't pick them off the site because I am currently in Brasil and they actually block the website so you can't access it from here.
Your best chance is in a terma or maybe Barbarellas. You can even go into a terma and ask if they have any girls that have done films, you will be surprised how many actually have, I would think 20% maybe more. You will have less of a chance of finding those girls hanging at Meia Pataca, that is kind of near the bottom of the barrel. Help is also less likely, tend to have a different mix of girls.
I was wondering if someone knew where to meet the girls I see on ************.com? I've been to Rio, but these girls are not available on the usual places such as Meia Pataca, Help, etc. Does anyone know where these girls work?
Thank you!Mostly therma and escort girls. Don't believe what it says on MIB about where these girls are from, I know for a fact that many of them are from SP even though it state their from Rio!
FLRoadWarrior
08-02-06, 16:46
IMHO go to the termas. Monte Carlo was where I meet two of them. I have had a few MIB girls at 4x4.. A couple that I did not know was MIB girls. The best one I had was Gabarilla.I will dig up the photos and post soon. FRW
So the “logic” I use is that in spite of my obvious wealth I won’t pay more than one hundred Reals per night because I want to have her often and paying her more every night would be impossible. I know that this doesn’t make sense, but it works.
Do you mind giving the names of the 5? Thanks.I'll answer my own question now that I've seen MIB. I recognize 2: Vanessa is at Solarium and Paola is a L'Uomo. I haven't done these two because they seemed too hardcore, and I didn't find them very attractive. Seeing their vids haven't changed my opinions. I've done a few at 4x4 who said they did porn, but I can't remember their names or even faces at this point.
Hello All,
I have visited Costa Rica and Panama quite a few times for mongering and general vacationing.
I am interested in going next to Brazil. (Have not been to South America - yet). I have a good deal with Delta Airlines for a good discount on standby air tickets to almost anywhere. So the more expensive ticket to Brazil would not be a factor.
And I have read many, many of the reports here on the Brazil segment, but just can't seem to get a good feel for the price situation currently in Brazil.
Are the prices for hotels and girls, & ground transportation, - taxi & buses in Brazil comparable to those in Costa Rica and Panama. Or would you say prices in Brazil are more or maybe less?
In CR and Panama I usually stay in unrated or 1 star type hotels (because I figure a bed is a bed - and I don't need to pay in excess of $ 80-100. A night for a room, when a suitable room can be had for $ 20-30. 00 a night).
Can one find a hotel room in the $ 20-30. Range in the mongering places in Brazil?
Also I don't usually pay more than $ 40-50.00 to have the company of a girl either. I have paid more, but only when the situation demanded it.
And if one looks around, can girls be had in the range of $ 40-50. 00?
I am seeking some brief input from all you Brazil experienced mongers. What is your opinion. Should I stay in CR and Panama where it's still fairly inexpensive. Or could I venture out to go to Brazil for about the same type money, and still have a reasonably good time?
Thanks for any input. Stevewxly
Steve, due to the current exchange rate and based on the prices you quoted from CR and Pa, Rio is a little more expensive then those places.That being said you will get a lot more for your $$$ than CR (never been to Pa). Im willing to bet that once you hit Rio you won't look at CR the same.
Rio is a must see if you’ve never been but don’t do it on a budget. The real is gaining strength due in part to the dollar growing weaker. Some girl’s prices have changed to reflect this and others have not.Yes a girl can be had for 40 to 50. Will she be top notch? Probaly not. Will she look good enough? Probably so. It’s just a matter of personal taste and preference. Try the Rio Rioss, If you prefer a relatively inexpensive hotel next to the action. About 50-70 a night. You will NOT (at least from my experience) find good accomadations in Copacabana for much less. I would advise an apartment.Food is the best thing about Rio. Really good food and drinks don’t cost a great deal. You can get by on 10 to 20 dollars a day on high quality meals. Taxis are not expensive. However , be sure to monitor the meter.If your fond of Panama, DR, Costa Rica etc. Its basically the same drill. Very good looking girls. Arguably the best for diversity and natural assets. Fake assets as well!
El Austriaco
08-10-06, 05:37
And if one looks around, can girls be had in the range of $ 40-50. 00?
Yes, but unless you speak Portuguese, know your ropes in Rio, and are a good negotiator, this is not likely to happen with freelancers in Copacabana, especially not in the usual tourist hangouts (Meia Pataca, Balcony, Veranda Help, Help). The Zona Sul gringo-frequented termas are out of your range, too. There are tons of options in your price range in Centro, but going there either requires you to read up really good on this board or speak at least some Portuguese.
One really easy place to get to in Centro in Rio with girls you can do in your specified price range would be Termas 502. I wrote up a report with prices (http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=462182&postcount=1033). Exchange rate: 1 USD = R$ 2.20, more or less. It's right on the corner of Avenida Rio Branco/Rua da Alfândega. Take the metro to Uruguiana, get yourself a good map, it´s no more than a five-minute walk from there.
As to the quality of the girls in Rio and their pricing, I have personally found that
1. there is a big correlation between high prices and hardcore hookers specializing in inexperienced foreign mongers,
2. there is a significant correlation between high prices and lackluster performance, and
3. there is very little correlation between high prices and looks.
All of the above, of course, does not refer to girls in termas, where prices are fixed.
In other words, in my personal experience, you get good-looking and ugly girls in all price segments, from R$ 20.00 to the sky is the limit, and you get good and bad performers at all rates: actually, the worst performers (not really many in Rio) that I have had were the most expensive ones. What determines how much they charge is their location: girls go to Copacabana to turn tricks with foreigners that are prone to overpaying. To get cheap girls, you have to go where the locals go, and you won´t be overcharged. Personally, I don´t monger in Copa anymore simply because for me, the girls are just as pretty and accommodating in other parts of town... at a fraction of the cost. But that´s just me.
Curry is right about accommodation: it will be hard to find something decent (in Copacabana) under USD 50.00 to 60.00 per night.
Also, when Curry says, "Will she be top-notch? Probably not", let me add that "not top-notch" in Rio, IMHO, is probably still better than "top-notch" in pretty much any Latin country in the world, with the possible exception of Colombia and Venezuela.
I haven´t been to CR or Panama (well, I have technically been to Panama, but didn´t monger), but based on what I have heard from people that have been there, I agree with those that say that in all likelihood, after you go to Rio, you will never look at other places the same way. It is just that good.
My two centavos.
EA
If you are worried about paying more that $40 - 50, don't worry. If you look hard enough you can find lots of providers at that price or cheaper. Check out Bubba Boy's Reports on this board. They are an excellent source of information. In addition, as sleazy as they are, you can't go wrong with the right taxi driver; they know and can tell you where you want to go. As far as getting around Brazil, use this website: http://br.mapas.yahoo.com/ (Thank you Bubba Boy!) It will give you cabfare on both day and night rates anywhere you are staying from and going, whether in Rio, Sao Paolo, etc. as long as you know the right stree addresses Both big cities have subways which could save you even more $$$ getting around (Bubba Boy's thread). My point and the point other make is that you must do research before getting here. Above all, get down there, you would not be disappointed at all. Long live the board!
Hello All,
I have visited Costa Rica and Panama quite a few times for mongering and general vacationing.
I am interested in going next to Brazil. (Have not been to South America - yet). I have a good deal with Delta Airlines for a good discount on standby air tickets to almost anywhere. So the more expensive ticket to Brazil would not be a factor.
And I have read many, many of the reports here on the Brazil segment, but just can't seem to get a good feel for the price situation currently in Brazil.
Are the prices for hotels and girls, & ground transportation, - taxi & buses in Brazil comparable to those in Costa Rica and Panama. Or would you say prices in Brazil are more or maybe less?
In CR and Panama I usually stay in unrated or 1 star type hotels (because I figure a bed is a bed - and I don't need to pay in excess of $ 80-100. A night for a room, when a suitable room can be had for $ 20-30. 00 a night).
Can one find a hotel room in the $ 20-30. Range in the mongering places in Brazil?
Also I don't usually pay more than $ 40-50.00 to have the company of a girl either. I have paid more, but only when the situation demanded it.
And if one looks around, can girls be had in the range of $ 40-50. 00?
I am seeking some brief input from all you Brazil experienced mongers. What is your opinion. Should I stay in CR and Panama where it's still fairly inexpensive. Or could I venture out to go to Brazil for about the same type money, and still have a reasonably good time?
Thanks for any input. Stevewxly
Sunset Strip
08-10-06, 23:21
Stevewxly,
I would be careful about flying standy into Rio, especially on Delta. Delta stopped flying here for a couple of years and only started back in October. A few years ago they would have lots of seats open but would not board any standby people. Folks would be stuck in Rio for days trying to get home. Many had to but last minute tickets for really high prices.
The thing is that lots of cargo is flown to Brazil via US airlines. Delta has been doing good business this way.
When I flew in October I had three seats to my self going and coming (but i had a ticket). But I will bet some standy people were told the plane was full. That is becuase the plane's wieght is what matters, not the number of people per se.
TJ
Sunset Strip
08-12-06, 02:33
When I am in Rio I feel like a super hero and every one needs a theme song. Here are the songs I love to play and hear (especially in therma cabines) while in Rio:
1. Still the One by Orleans (old school)
2. The Spy Who Loved Me (aka Nobody Does It Better) the James Bond theme
3. Game of Love by Michelle Branch and Carlos Santana (yeah, laugh now, but the Rio girls love this one and for those of us who have been around for awhile we know this reminds us of summer 2002!)
Ironically, I often her number 2 and number 3 in therma cabines, especially Luomo.
If anybody else has some good songs let me know, maybe I will add them to my Rio must bring list.
Thanks,
TJ
El Austriaco
08-12-06, 03:04
1. Van Halen, Panama. I heard this song once at MV 30 after doing two girls there, a choppe in one hand and a caipirinha in the other, both girls by my side, stroking the dick, and all the other hookers yelling "Panama" at the top of their lungs. Unforgettable.
2. Robert Palmer, Addicted to Love. Irresistible is good, too.
3. Black Eyed Peas, Shut up. Just repeat to fend off unwelcome advances by Copa sharks.
In terms of Brazilian songs, every year I go, one or a few particular songs seem to stick to my mind:
2002: Marisa Monte, "Amor I Love You"; Djavan, "Eu Te Adoro", Martinho da Vila, "Mulheres".
2004: Luciana Mello (I think), "Cor do Pecado". You know, "Esse corpo moreno, cheiroso e gostoso, que você tem, É um corpo delgado, da cor do pecado, que faz tão bem...). João Bosco, "Papel Machê".
2005: Furacão 2000, "Quer Bolete" (lololol), and Ana Carolina, "Nua".
2006: Ana Carolina & Seu Jorge, "É Isso Aí", Vila Isabel, "Soy Loco por Tí, América" (the winning carnaval theme song); Ana Carolina, "Garganta".
EA
For me unquestionably it's gotta be "Don't cha" by the Pussycat Dolls. Ingrid did a strip at Luomo to that song and was all over me in doing so. When I got back from Rio I bought this song on iTunes and played it on my iPod. Everytime I played it, I had to think back to this scene and then was unable to wipe the smile off my face.
I'll be back to Rio in a couple of weeks, and I am sure that Rio is way over that song. But it's all good ... I'll make new theme song memories. ;)
euro
Mine would be
"Hold Me in Your Arms" (Lasgo). Memories of the Iracema strip in Fortaleza. This song is the one playing in the Brazilian film "Cidade Baixa" when they all go to the discoteca together.
"Candy Shop" (50 Cent). Something about the video clip and the lyrics and the Rio chicks loving hip hop. I don't remember ever being in Help when they played this, but it makes me immediately think of Help.
"Beautiful" (Snoop). Automatic selection. If I want to relive a few minutes of Rio, I just watch this clip.
Unfortunately I don't know who made this beautiful song. It's funk.
It goes like this:
"De segunda á sexta só penso em mulher gostosa
Recebo meu salário corro para Vila Mimosa
De segunda á sexta só penso em mulher gostosa
Recebo meu salário corro para Vila Mimosa
Vila Mimosa, area de lazer, com 20 reais, ohhhh
Vila Mimosa, area de lazer, com 20 reais, Yeah baby....."
For those of you who are not able to be in Rio on September 3rd but are close to New York you can experience a little taste of Brazil with the big annual party they have. Ill be in New York that day maybe we will see some familiar faces from the Copa scene or elsewhere, who knows.
www.brazilianday.com
Sunset Strip
08-15-06, 01:59
I am in Rio now and somehow I missed the posts about Meia Pataca closing. I do not really hang out there, so when I stopped by on Sunday morning I thought it was just closed because it was early. But I am typing now at around 10pm Rio time on Monday and the place is CLOSED! What happened?
TJ
i called the manager of the Havana Club, which is next door to Meia Pataca. He said it will be closed for 2 months. it's being remodeled.
Member #4042
08-15-06, 16:19
Interesting and very informative article about buying real estate in Brasil.I found it at www.brazzil.com written by an expert, to end all speculation
Anyone could pose as a real estate agent in Brazil. In fact, selling real estate appears to be the third most favorite national past-time after soccer and Carnaval. Strangers on the street, doormen, friends, friends of friends, friends of relatives, and relatives of friends, in short, anyone would gladly lend you a helping hand and charge a commission for services (or lack thereof) provided.
Nobody would guess that in Brazil the profession of a real estate broker is strictly regulated by the Civil Code and providing real estate services without being duly registered and licensed is a misdemeanor punishable by incarceration and fine.
This is important information yet it is often of little practical value to those unfortunate individuals who have already fallen victims to pseudo-brokers, incompetent brokers, or outright fraud.
As always, an ounce of prevention is worth many times a pound of cure, especially considering that this pound of cure is very hard to come by in the first place. Of course, there are recourses that could be invoked by the injured party.
Brokers and agents can be reprimanded and their licenses could be suspended and revoked by CRECI - Regional Councils of Real Estate Professionals; real estate agents are also legally and financially responsible for their actions through civil and criminal legal systems. Needless to say, obtaining satisfaction or justice could take a very long time as well as be extremely difficult, costly, and stressful.
Information and knowledge are often the best defenses and protectors of consumer interests and rights in any situation. This is true many times more so in real estate purchase arrangements that take place in Brazil.
Let us look at the professional qualifications, responsibilities, and rights that real estate agents have in Brazil. Our first step is to learn how to avoid unscrupulous individuals who pose as brokers and who often cause serious financial and emotional damage to their unsuspecting clients. We will then look at the practical aspects of working with a real estate agent, and, finally, we should explore the steps that can be taken to protect rights and property of a client.
Broker, are you a broker?
In order to become a licensed real estate agent (broker) in Brazil it is necessary to take a training course TTI (Técnico de Transações Imobiliárias), pass exams on the comprising modules, and, finally, pass the state licensing exam.
A broker can exercise profession only after obtaining TTI diploma, passing the state licensing exam, and being duly registered with the corresponding state CRECI. At this point the broker obtains a professional ID card and a CRECI registration number.
The real estate broker ID card has to be carried at all times during exercise of profession and ought to be shown to anyone wishing to see it. CRECI number identifying the professional is mandatory to be listed in all advertising.
In special cases, students of TTI courses are issued intern permits that allow them to work at real estate agencies during their training.
It is fairly simple to identify a real estate professional in Brazil. Endless trouble (alas, not all of it) could be avoided by taking this simple, yet often overlooked step.
NOTE: If you wish to be certain that you are dealing with a legit real estate professional, ask for ID, note the name and the CRECI number.
Picareta - (literally a pickax, but here a con artist) is a slang term often used to designate false brokers.
There are two types of CRECI licenses:
Individual license granted to graduates of TTI course who have passed the state licensing exam.
Note: Holders of bachelor and master level degrees in Real Estate Sciences are also eligible for CRECI inscription without having to take the TTI course. They still have to pass the state licensing exam.
Company licenses are issued to companies that incorporate real estate related activities in the corporate bylaws as well as being headed and managed by an individual CRECI holder (real estate agency).
Note: Company CRECI can be used for advertising and legal purposes, but only individuals holding CRECI licenses can provide real estate services to clients.
What Real Estate Agents Are Qualified to Do
RE brokers in Brazil are not mere sales agents. Despite the fact that the primary function and the main revenue source for real estate professional remains commission derived from brokering, CRECI licensed professionals ought to be able to advise on and guide clients through most if not all the intricate details of a real estate transaction.
Taking On a Listing
In order to publicly advertise a property for sale (newspaper ads, web site listings, etc) it is necessary for a broker to have exclusive listing contract. It is a very unfortunate fact that in many cases brokers do not bother to get exclusivity nor take any steps in order to investigate or even to visit a property they are expected to sell.
In the ideal case, the broker would obtain exclusivity (lack of MLSs (Multiple Listing Services), competitive market, and poor working relationship with the public often result in properties advertised by a number of brokers/agencies with different prices), visit the property and conduct preliminary due diligence investigation.
Such investigation should include obtaining historical title extract (Certidão Vintenária aka Ônus Reais), and any additional documentation that could shed light on the legal status of the property and its owner(s). It's been estimated that about 40% of properties currently on the market in Brazil have different kinds of cloud on title.
Confirming that the person selling the property is actually the owner and there are no any other immediate irreparable impediments to the ownership transfer should be one of the first steps of preparing a healthy listing.
The broker should make at least one visit to the property to confirm and investigate its location, integrity, and peculiarities. It is imperative to speak with the owner, neighbors, síndico (condominium administrator), and any other source that could potentially provide valuable information that could not be found on legal documentation about the property.
As a client you can contribute to increase in professionalism and combat of informality on real estate market by always making sure that the real estate professional you are working with is legit and that all the necessary preliminary steps have been taken before visiting a prospective property or allowing your property to be listed.
Hiring a Broker
Technically, a client/broker relationship begins with signing of a listing or a service provider agreement. The set of contracts that can be signed between a broker and a client is generally known as: Contrato de intermediação imobiliária (Real estate brokerage service contract.
The following types of contracts are recognized:
Contrato de intermediação imobiliária para fins de venda (Listing contract)
Contrato de intermediação imobiliária para fins de compra (Buyer agency agreement)
Contrato de intermediação imobiliária para fins de locação (Property rent authorization)
Contrato de intermediação imobiliária para fins de permuta (Property barter authorization)
Contrato de intermediação imobiliária para fins de administração imobiliária (Property Administration Agreement)
Despite the fact that service contract is obligatory (by professional and legal standards) between a client and a real estate broker, there have been numerous cases where commission rights had been granted to contesting broker even when no such contract existed.
Listing Contract
Listing contract can be exclusive or non-exclusive. Since there is no Multiple Listing Service in Brazil, most of the listing contracts by default grant exclusive rights to sell to the listing broker or agency (commission is due even if the seller finds buyer directly) for the duration of the contract.
Usually such contracts are signed for a period of 90 business days. If the seller desires to grant only Exclusive Agency contract (commission is only due if the listing agent finds buyer), the clause has to be explicitly stated and carefully worded.
If the transaction takes place after the expiration date of the contract, but as a result of the broker's contribution, the fee is still due.
Exclusive contract gives the rights of public advertising to the broker (posting signs, running classifieds ads, posting listings on web sites). Non-exclusive contract would limit marketing options to the internal catalogs, existing client lists and such.
Commission or Fees
Legislation and regulations guiding profession of real estate broker in Brazil shies away from calling compensation for real estate brokerage services commission. Instead, consistent effort is being made to equate such compensation with fees payable to other liberal professionals in Brazil, such as: lawyers, doctors, medics...
The word used for the legal and practical purposes is Honorários. Such effort is being made in order to further disassociate real estate broker profession from the ranks of common sales clerks and to elevate professional status of the category.
The Honorários ought to be fixed at the service contract and should be clearly identified as for the type of services that would generate such compensation.
Note: Commission and fee are used interchangeably in this article since commission is the most frequently used term designating such compensation in the English language.
There are five basic types of professional compensation:
Sale Fee
This commission is paid by either seller or buyer and is based on the type of property and sales commission table provided by the corresponding state's CRECI. Usually, the rate ranges from 5% to 10% of the amount of the transaction.
Property Barter Commission
Barter commission generally follows the same guidelines as the sale commission. It is important to note that in case of a direct exchange of a property for another one of equal value, the broker can claim commission for both. When a property of a lesser value is provided as part of payment for a property of a greater value only the commission on the property of the greater value is due.
Property Lease Commission
Rent commission is always charged to the landlord. It usually is defined as an amount equivalent to a month worth of rent.
Property Administration Fee
Can be fixed at up to 12% of the amount of the monthly rent. If the amount of rent is fixed for the entire duration of the lease agreement, then greater amount can be charged.
Property Appraisal (Property valuation) Fee
Real Estate brokers in Brazil can conduct market analysis and determine market value of the property in question.
Note: If the property appraisal is required for legal, fiscal, or mortgage purposes , only civil engineers could provide reports that can be admitted.
When the Fee Is Due
It is a common misconception that the broker fee ought to be paid at closing. In reality, payment of the broker fee is due at the moment when the transaction has become imminent, i.e. when the intent to purchase or a similar document has been signed.
Even if the deposit/earnest money has been paid and the buyer later pulls back for one reason or another, the seller is liable for the full broker commission. This is one of the reasons that the down payment should be set at least 10% of the agreed sale price in order to cover possible expenses that include broker commission.
It doesn't mean that if the broker has merely introduced the two parties that the commission is due. There has to be a clear indication that the transaction is to take place. What is usually not considered in this situation is whether or not the transaction is eventually carried through by either of the parties or not.
If the transaction falls through due to the unprofessional, unethical, or illegal conduct by the broker, there is a fair chance that the fee would be denied and the broker could be held responsible legally and financially for his or her actions.
Boris Goldshmit is the founder of www.lifestylesbrazil.com and a Licensed Real Estate Broker based in Rio de Janeiro. He can be contacted at boris@lifestylesbrazil.comThis email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it .
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Sunset Strip
08-15-06, 16:36
too bad mp is closed. i would have liked to have taken a beer there once before leaving.
by the way, i heard two my of theme songs mentioned below yesterday (one at a kiosk in neterio and the other at the miami peep show on copacabana ave.).
tj
i called the manager of the Havana Club, which is next door to Meia Pataca. He said it will be closed for 2 months. it's being remodeled.
Well I hope they do something with that bathroom its like playing chinese checkers to go in there.
Im sure the Havana club is happy about the clousure they should pick up some business since they do get a lot of their overflow anyway.
I guess the girls will be charging more since the place will be fixed up and they'll be attracting a higher class crowd in general.
Cunnilinguist
08-17-06, 23:05
By far the song for me will be “Rio De Janeiro” by Barry White (RIP). The song is from 1981 (yes an oldie), but it is an absolute riot and the song captures the essence of how every man feels when he is on the plane leaving or is asked about their trip to Rio. Download the song and listen, it will put a smile on your face.
The CunningLinguist
Does anyone know of a good by the kilo eating places in Sao Paulo? I will be in the moema area. I already tried the mall there.
Thanks in advance,
Q
I need a little advice, I've never been to Brazil or dealt with any Brazilian women. Yesterday I met a Brazilian woman in BestBuy in the suburbs outside of NYC. She was trying to return a laptop that was out of warranty. I struck up a conversation with her and helped her to understand what she needed to do to get her computer repaired. During the course of the conversation I found out where she was from and told her I will be taking Portuguese lessons this fall and it would be great if I could practice with her. She agreed and we exchanged numbers. She is a white skinned woman and not very exotic looking, about a 5-6. She is working and living at a very exclusive country club as a waitress. Me I'm about 5'10, a lil over weight, a lil more than average looking. What I need advice with is the thought process of Brazilian women. Whats the best way to get in those draws.
Thanks,
Seeker32
Sounds like your girl is from Southern Brazil like Belo Horizonate or Rio Grande de Sul where the women have European roots. If she is in the US and working as a waitress, she is probably not attracted to the easy money that can be made by selling her body. BTW, is she hot looking or a plain jane? So, you'll need to put some time in before you can hook up with her big time. But I think that if you treat her nice, you'll get what you want. It is generally accepted that Brazilians are very passionate. Of course, I am generalizing here but most likely she won't have a problem with any age differences. Physical appearance matters less as long as you have "heart".
Treat her like a woman and behave as a man - firm, decisive and in control. She'll appreciate that. Take the portugese lessons with her and even if hooking up with her is a bust you'll at least gain valuable knowledge that you can use when you do make it to Rio, Sao Paulo, etc.
Almotu
i called the manager of the Havana Club, which is next door to Meia Pataca. He said it will be closed for 2 months. it's being remodeled.
Just got this picture from a friend of mine, looks like they did some big changes to Meia Pataca.
One Eyed Man
09-03-06, 20:31
I stopped by Brazilian Day today in NYC (occupying kind of a cross shape from 42nd to 56th on Sixth Avenue [or "Avenue of the Americas"--how fitting] and from Fifth to Seventh avenues on 46th Street (Little Brazil Way.) I had intended to stay much longer, but just stayed a couple of hours because it was mobbed with people and just too hard to get around.
The good: there were quite a few Brazilians, authentic Brazilian food (I had the most delicious picanha on a skewer), plenty of Brasil t-shirts to buy, and it felt good to hear Portuguese spoken again.
The bad: again, mobbed with people, no booze except in restautants (there was a stand selling fake caipirinhas), a lot of silly white New Yorkers wearing Brasil t-shirts, the usual slow walkers and nimrods that stand in the middle of the path and block traffic, the usual junk stands that you see at all the street festivals in NYC, and the garotas traveled in with their clans, and were therefore tough to chat up.
I'd go again if I were in town, but the festival makes me look forward to my trip to the real Brazil this December.
I am planning another trip to Rio (third one this year!). What is Halloween like in Rio. Do they even bother? Is it a big deal? Are the Termas open? Is Help a wild blow out?
Just got this picture from a friend of mine, looks like they did some big changes to Meia Pataca.
MP is closed right now. I walked by it last night. The inside is a mess, with cconstruction debris everywhere. This picture must be old. Or is there a second location of MP that I do not know about?
euro
MP is closed right now. I walked by it last night. The inside is a mess, with cconstruction debris everywhere. This picture must be old. Or is there a second location of MP that I do not know about?
euro
Yes, the picture is definitely old. That's the way MP looked maybe 4-5 years ago.
Mr Enternational
09-04-06, 20:31
Yes, the picture is definitely old. That's the way MP looked maybe 4-5 years ago.Yep. Definitely retro. Last week when I was there they weren't even finished gutting the place out.
guys... i have been a travelling monger for the last 12 years. i have fucked in almost all continents but i tell you the woment in brazil gotta to be the best fucks every.
its the only place i have visited so far that i called my boss back and bulshitted that i got bumped on my return flight and stayed an additional week to fuck more.
if any of you guys are considering brazil... don't miss it it for the world. sure thai pussy is cheap & tight, cambodian's pussy is less that 5$ a pop. in tokyo just to sit with a pussy i blew 200$. in france i fucked an algerian who cursed me in arabic, i was almost gang raped and windled of all the money in a red light area in india, argentenian blonds make you feel invincible.
the only women who fucked me like a bf, sucked me like my wife and enjoyed it are the brazilian women, its something, they just love their job. they don't ***** about your size, very little fuss about any pose position, picture, shower or any fuxken thing that you can ever dream bout or see in the wierdest porno flick.... try it and its acceptable.
everytime i come to these pages, i am transported back on memory lane to rio.. what a trip, my dick was so sore from fucking that i almost walked funny for few days after returning.
Mr Enternational
09-05-06, 03:53
I gotta say amen to my man Phish. Brazil is the ultimate GFE experience, that is what makes it stand out so. I was very disappointed in Panama the past couple of days. The girls there have really bad attitude not to mention them trying to command the exhorbitant amount of money that they want for their caliber and the short amount of time. They are all 'hurry up and fuck me and finish. ' Anything you ask them to do most of them have a problem with it. I like service with a smile.
You mentioned France. Going in the back of an alley to join a bunch of other guys fucking along a fence in Nice for 60 euros was undoubtedly the worst mongering experience I have had.
Next week I am off to Bangkok and Mumbai to check the scences there. But after mongering in 24 countries nothing has even come close to Rio. I have a feeling that after I do PI in January, I will still not have found reason enough to venture out of Brazil again.
In Rio you definitely do not pay the girls to stay. You pay them to leave!
DFWDude:
i was in Rio 2 yrs ago over Halloween. they don't observe it in Rio and it doesn't fall on oct 31, but nov 2, (all souls day.) they celebrate it in SP, though. i did a google search and found that some SP clubs may observe it on oct 31. don't expect trick or treating nor haunted houses, as those are american traditions.
Nov 2 falls on a thursday, so everything will be open.
btw, Carnaval has a Halloween feel to it, as many people dress up in "fantasy" costumes.
Hey guys!
I been reading some of the threads and got some interesting info on Villa Mimosa. As I really enjoy getting out of the beaten path, speak some portuguese and likely can pass as a local I am interested in checking the more "for locals" areas.
Besides Villa Mimosa, can someone post a list of similar other areas not just in Rio but other cities as well? Could make for some interesting exploration.
TIA!
Hey guys!
I been reading some of the threads and got some interesting info on Villa Mimosa. As I really enjoy getting out of the beaten path, speak some portuguese and likely can pass as a local I am interested in checking the more "for locals" areas.
Besides Villa Mimosa, can someone post a list of similar other areas not just in Rio but other cities as well? Could make for some interesting exploration.
TIA!
In Brazil you find nothing equal to VM in other cities. If you tell me what city in Brazil you're interested in I might help you find something similar.
Cheers
VM Fan Club
El Austriaco
09-08-06, 21:28
Hey guys!
I been reading some of the threads and got some interesting info on Villa Mimosa. As I really enjoy getting out of the beaten path, speak some portuguese and likely can pass as a local I am interested in checking the more "for locals" areas.
For more economical options in Centro Rio, check out this post of mine a while ago (a collection of prior posts by Sperto and myself regarding Centro action):
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=467646&postcount=1127
Not exactly VM, but cheap, fun, safe... and easy to reach from Copacabana.
EA
If you have not done so, my fellow mongers, please do yourself a favor and follow the link that EA posted in the report below. It points to a report with three more links, and one of them is to his adventure in 502. Here is the direct link to it: http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=462182&postcount=1033 I put this one into the Distinction catagory a few months ago when it came out. It is really good and helped me a lot in deciding to give 502 a try.
502 is really easy to find. As you come up the Uruguaiana Street exit from the Uruguaiana Metro station, you can walk straight ahead and end up in Rua da Alfandega. Two blocks further down this street is 502. Below is a picture of the outside of 502, which is what you see when you come up Rua da Alfandega from the Metro. Maybe that will help finding it.
euro
El Austriaco
09-09-06, 18:26
Here's Euro's writeup of his 502 action (also in Reports of Distinction):
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=502251&postcount=1735
As you can see on the picture posted, 502 is located right on the corner of Av. Rio Branco (which is the street you see in the background) and Rua da Alfândega.
Either follow the directions provided by Euro or the following: take the metro to Uruguiana station and make sure to take the "Presidente Vargas" exit. Walk in the direction of the big church at the end of Presidente Vargas. Cross the first intersection (this is Uruguiana, you can't miss it with the McDonald's right at the corner) and continue one more block until you hit Av. Rio Branco (a very broad, multi-lane street). Hang a right for one more block, and you are right at the corner of Rua da Alfândega.
IMHO, 502 is a great place to hang out even if you don't go with a girl, especially on Friday evenings, when tons of downtown office workers descend on the place, most of them just to drink, party, and grab some ass. It is like a Brazilian-themed rap party in there with up to 50 girls at a time. Like Euro wrote, not all of them cute or even doable, but there are always a few gems, and the atmosphere (and prices) are hard to beat. BTW, "Centro de Lazer" (just like "Centro de Relax") is just another fancy term for "*****house" (just like "Termas").
Also, Rua da Alfândega and the surrounding streets (like Buenos Aires) all the way up to Praça da República (commonly referred to as the SAARA market) are ground zero for inexpensive shopping for anything and everything you would ever want to buy in Rio. Even if you are not in the area because of 4x4 or other centro termas, go there once just to avoid inflated Copa prices for souvenirs, soccer shirts, CDs, DVDs, etc.: you might save so much money that checking out 502 might actually be free.
EA
Awesome fellows....I will do more reading and probably come up w more questions. Thanks a lot!
I am able to blend w the locals and speak a bit of portuguese and fluent in spanish so I think I can pick up some more pretty quickly.
Not sure which cities I will hit but as I will only have 3 weeks in country, on a budget, I will like to keep the cities close to each other but also with less expensive options available. And I have a bit of predilection for black chicks and mulattas.
TIA
Mr Enternational
09-10-06, 06:42
Rua da Alfândega.
EAYeah, I think I will check 502 out the week after next. But have you ever been to the mini-termas at Rua da Alfândega, 172? It's the kind that starts at R$10. I always get sidetracked with other places when I am downtown and forget to look for it.
El Austriaco
09-10-06, 21:18
But have you ever been to the mini-termas at Rua da Alfândega, 172? It's the kind that starts at R$10.
I know a number of different R$10.00 places in the area, and Sperto has reported on some other ones in that category. Alfândega 172, however, is new to me, but I will check it out the next time I am in the neighborhood. There must be tons of similar places in that part of town: every time I go to the SAARA market, I receive two or three flyers of new places opening. But there are so many places, so little time. What a drag.
But do I enjoy reporting on these largely undiscovered gems? You bet.
EA
Thanks fellows...great info!
I am a bit confused right now...in other sites I read about guys dropping $100 for 2 hrs and such. But it seems as if there is plenty of cheap goods out there and, while quality wise it may be harder to find >7s you can if you look long enough. Ciomments?
Brazil for all nighters at $75 or less sounds great, for ST for under 15 sure...now if I have to dropping a couple of hundy per day for pussy I have to rethink things as I am still on a budget and perhaps it would be best to wait a couple of years when money will start coming in at a higher rate.
Maybe I should take care of Indonesia and Burma first. But I do love the latin experience and had great times in Colombia and DR...likely going back to both soon.
At any rate...great info and much appreciated!
El Austriaco
09-11-06, 03:47
I am a bit confused right now...in other sites I read about guys dropping $100 for 2 hrs and such. But it seems as if there is plenty of cheap goods out there and, while quality wise it may be harder to find >7s you can if you look long enough. Comments?
Concarne,
If you read through several months or years of the Rio 2006 reports here on ISG, you will be able to confirm the following:
1) 98% of the mongering experiences reported here pertain to the same few upscale termas in Zona Sul (MC, L'Uomo, Centaurus, Solarium) or in Centro (4X4, Cancun, Rio Antiguo) as well as the usual Copacabana hangouts (Help, Meia Pataca, Balcony). I doubt other sites similar to ISG are significantly different.
2) 95% of the reports are written by guys who travel to Rio one or two weeks at the time with lots of money to burn and little time to waste.
3) Not suprisingly, considering where these guys are mongering and their time constraints and budgets, reported prices are significantly higher than those available for locals, whether native Brazilians or foreign expatriates, outside of Copacabana.
4) If you read the few reports by people who live there or who have extensive experience in Rio, speak Portuguese, and who are looking for cheaper options beyond the tourist segment (mainly Sperto, Bubba Boy, Ibiza, Full Throttle, and myself), you will find many cheaper options. The same people report that good quality is to be found at good rates outside the Copa zoo. The experience may not be as point-and-click, but with a bit of effort, it is definitely feasible. Portuguese language skills definitely help.
5) Considering the huge differences between mongers in terms of time available (a few days to months or years), budgets, experience (first visit, no Portuguese vs. lives there, fluent Portuguese), personal preferences and individual mongering styles, it is not suprising that while some pay USD 100 for a couple of hours, others pay R$ 50 for TLN or R$20.00 for ST. It is all out there... just up to you to chose. Read the board, and you will find out where to go for all the different options. BTW, if you are mainly attracted to mulatas and pretas (just like me!), you will not face any shortage of those in the cheap places. Trust me on this.
6) In all price segments, pussy has gotten more expensive over the past two years, no doubt about it, mainly because of the weak dollar. Please keep in mind that there is no guarantee that, say, in a couple of years, the dollar will be stronger. So even if you personally may make more money, the overall cost may be the same to you.
You know what makes Rio the top sex destination in the world? That sex is available 24/7 with a wide variety of types of girls for all budgets and mongering styles. There is just no other place like it.
Earlier this year, I wrote a longer piece about Rio pricing:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=426554&postcount=91
Hope this helps,
EA
3) Not suprisingly, considering where these guys are mongering and their time constraints and budgets, reported prices are significantly higher than those available for locals, whether native Brazilians or foreign expatriates, outside of Copacabana.
EANews from the ground.
I spent one hour at Balcony's last week and as a foreign expat speaking fluent Portuguese, I couldn't get a one hour deal for less than R$ 100. And there were only dogs there, I mean > 4. I do agree with EA, Copa is a zoo with sindicate prices. Go downtown to find gems for R$ 50 and avoid Copa.
News from the ground.
I spent one hour at Balcony's last week and as a foreign expat speaking fluent Portuguese, I couldn't get a one hour deal for less than R$ 100. And there were only dogs there, I mean > 4. I do agree with EA, Copa is a zoo with sindicate prices. Go downtown to find gems for R$ 50 and avoid Copa.
I agree that the picking wer slim last week at Balcony. When we were there, the only good locking chick was at out table. And this was Juliana form L'uomo, because one of the guys in Steve's posse had invited her to come along with us. That's why all we were able and willing to do was to get drunk there. (Not that there is anything wrong with getting drunk, mind you!).
euro
2) 95% of the reports are written by guys who travel to Rio one or two weeks at the time with lots of money to burn and little time to waste.
EA,
I will admit that I fall into this category. It is not really that I have money "to burn", but I have much more money than time. So I am not willing to explore into the unknown and negotiate to the edge, only to take a chance to leave emptyhanded.
Yes, having many foreigners with a bit of money to spend around keeps the prices at Copa high. But as I found during my trips to centro, this has absolutely no influence on the prices downtown. There the foreign influx is still a small influence compared to the number of local mongerers.
So the happy fact is that all of us can coexist happily in Rio without messing up each others games.
happy hunting
euro
P.S.: When I did the numbers, I found that with all the money I spent on pussy, I still spent more on drinks and food. But with all of the money that I shelled out during these two most recent Rio weeks, it was sitll less than a week of helicopter-skiing in the Canadian Rockies. :D No more heli-skiing for me!
El Austriaco
09-12-06, 02:09
I will admit that I fall into this category. It is not really that I have money "to burn", but I have much more money than time. So I am not willing to explore into the unknown and negotiate to the edge, only to take a chance to leave emptyhanded.
And based on your individual circumstances, this makes perfect sense, Euro. You know, when I was in the same situation, with time being more valuable to me than money, I did exactly the same thing. Like in 2002, during my first trip to Rio, I only spent three days there, on the way back from a trip to Salvador. Went to MP, took out two girls for a dupla, R$ 300.00 (R$ 150.00 each). Just couldn't wait to taste the world-famous Rio pussy...
In 2004, however, I was (literally and unexpectedly) forced to spend three-and-a-half months in Rio. As the expenses starting mounting, I simply started looking for some more economical P4P options, since paying R$ 150.00 to R$ 200.00 on a daily basis for Help chicks or even more in termas would just burn a huge hole in my pocket (especially since I was not working). That's when some expatriates took me under their wing to introduce me to the downtown scene. Life was never the same afterwards, and I have never turned around to look back at Copacabana the same way...
I love Rio because it really provides so many different P4P options for everyone: for the high-rollers willing to dish out thousand of R$ for TLN, for the more middle-of-the road pussy connoisseurs and termas dogs, and low-end rollers like Sperto or myself, who get a kick out of exploring new places and discovering cheap bargains away from the touristy areas. For guys looking for a GFE, or mongers who just want to do as many girls as possible ST, nothing else. There are so many different games... and the only one that matters is what makes us happy, given our individual time and budgetary constraints. That's why Rio is the P4P capital of the world for me. Because there is something for everyone.
Wow, the cost of heliskiing sounds outlandish. Seems like you miss it, though. Remember, doing a Rio cutie doggy-style actually is somewhat reminiscent of the tucked position in skiing (and provides similar cardiovascular benefits). Maybe you should try the "helicopter" with a GDP the next time. Just gotta leave the skis at home :)
EA
I also think the longer you spend in Brasil, the more you realise how out of whack paying a GDP R300 is. You only have to go up to the normal working class areas of Rio to realise that R300 is a lot of cash for 90% of Brasilians, a shit load of cash. The majority of GDP's come from this social economic class. Paying that much for an average GDP in Zona Sul is just plain silly.
I can't bring myself to do it now, money is not the issue, I can afford it, just don't like to feel like a fool. I also can't bring myself to pay GBP300 for an hour with an escort in London anymore, something I used to do a few years ago. The value, bang for your buck, just doesn't make sense to me anymore. Rather stay at home with a Porno.
I also think the longer you spend in Brasil, the more you realise how out of whack paying a GDP R300 is. You only have to go up to the normal working class areas of Rio to realise that R300 is a lot of cash for 90% of Brasilians, a shit load of cash. The majority of GDP's come from this social economic class. Paying that much for an average GDP in Zona Sul is just plain silly.
I can't bring myself to do it now, money is not the issue, I can afford it, just don't like to feel like a fool.
So very true, specially the last sentence.
CaptainNemo
09-16-06, 05:50
Has anyone fly the Webjet airline in Brazil? It does not have many destinations. It has better price than GOL where it does go.
Its web site is funky. I can not get the schedule page.
http://www.webjet.com.br/empresa/novosite/index.asp
El,
When will you be in Brazil nextg. I do have the money but see no sense spending that tight of money on the girls. maybe we could hook up and you could show me the ropes?
Take care.
Tony
I was looking through my things the other day and I came across an old RioTur guide book that they used to give out at the airport when you arrived just like those maps they give out today.
They may still have these little guide books today but I haven't seen one in years. The one I found was from 1981, it lists the hotels, restaurants, airlines, night clubs, embassies and so on, many useful things for a tourist to know.
It also listed ads of the Terma's of the day, like Solarium, Aeroporto and Termas 65. I didn't see 4X4 listed there but Im sure its been around a long time too considering the look of the place. And there were others that I didn't recognize being in business today.
Many of the restaurants listed are still in business like Porcao and Mariui's.
I attached the ads
At 65 in 81 you could get haircut, check-up, and a discrete bj in the relax area, or my favorite the circular shower. I guess that’s why the girls are no longer allowed in there.
Gents,
Didn't know where to post this, so I took the liberty of posting it in here. I would like to get the feedback and views of the experts and vets in terms of Brasil and Brasilian girls on an issue that has me quit a bit confused. Here's the thing:
During my last trip, about a year ago, I met a a Brasilian non-pro girl, that I originally met on the internet, on an international pen-pal site. We had been communicating for a few months until I got to Brasil. She lives in a big city inside the country. When I got there, we hit it off superbly well. Now a little bit about both of us: I am European caucasian, in my mid 20's, speak portuguese, have had the privilege of travelling quite often. She is 23, highly educated, also polyglote, about to graduate from university in medecine, well travelled, very intelligent, extremly funny and a presence that lights up anywhere she happens to be and she speaks fluent English (and German and some basic French) and is from a very wealthy familty, has her own car and lives in a house, with full time live in maids that would make quite a few of us in here envious.
While there, I met all her family, parents, relatives, brother and friends and all, all of which, from a very white and prominent background. She's very active, does modelling, travels frequently all over Brasil, has a regular job, at the time I was there, she was teaching english in a private and prestigious English school in her city and now working at an internship in a major Brasilian lab/pharmacy.
Now, gentlemen, here's what I'd like your input and feedback to share your experiences with this to a fellow younger brother. The question is: is she worth going after? We're not talking about a poor favelada in here in search of her white knight to take her out of her misery. She's independant, highly educated, well travelled and from the higher bracket of the Brasilian society, as previously mentioned. And she also happens to be beautiful and very sexy. :)
What makes me confused is that I am aware that a Brasilian girl that speaks english is not a good sign, spelling actually, hard core pro. In her case, she's not a pro, she's in no need to be one. She's very sweet, I went and saw her place of work and met family, relatives and friends, all of which are also, the upper side of society. As they say in Brasil:
"Tem 3 categorias de mulheres: a primeira categoria, mulheres pra paquerar e ficar; a segunda, pra namorar e a teirça, pra casar." (quick translation for those who don't understand this beautifully sensual and devilishly sexy language that is Brazilian Portuguese: "There are 3 categories of women: the first category, those to have fun with, the 2nd, to date and the third, to marry." And of all the girls I've known and or dated so far, she's the only one I can say that would fall into the 3rd category.
Now, messieurs, I'd be grateful for your feedback and your views on this dilemma. My dilemma. Again, the question being: "Is she worth it?. Should I go after her? Based on your experiences with non-pro Brasilian girls of a higher level, what should I expect from her?
I kindly and sincerely thank you in advance for your constructive input. :)
Valeu. :)
Sprite 13,
First of all, where on earth did you get the idea that a Brazilian girl who speaks English is a hard core pro? Au contraire, mon ami! I have met very few hard core pros who speak more than rudimentary English. On the other hard I would imagine that most university educated men and women, especially of her generation, would be conversant in English and one other language as well, most likely Spanish, but also German or French. Brazilian educators are well aware that Portuguese won't get you very far outside of Brazil and, in this era of the global village, stress language acquisition.
Secondly, it appears that you have done your homework and that she is what she says she is, i.e., affluent or wealthy. I'm assuming that you have actually visited her home, seen the servants, etc. So you're probably not dealing with a fraud. Maybe; I'm just a natural born skeptic.
Now for the bad news. Brazilian upper crust women have very little use for gringo men, other than as occasional boy toys. Why should they? They want to continue living the life style to which they are accustomed, and the most likely life partner to allow them that luxury would be a Brazilian man from the same social class. What would be the purpose to them of getting seriously involved with 'um estrangeiro?'
So the question you need to ask yourself is, what do you have to offer her that would lure her away from her current luxurious life style? Unless your last name is Bulgari or Krupp, probably very little. This doesn't mean that she won't fool around with you--think boy toy--especially if you are good looking, charming, good in bed, witty, or any combination of these features. But as far as marriage, I would say your chances are remote.
Having said this, I would add that it certainly won't hurt to try. But keep a lid on your emotions, and don't let yourself get hurt. At least that's my two centavos worth.
Lorenzo
El Austriaco
10-05-06, 18:01
What makes me confused is that I am aware that a Brasilian girl that speaks english is not a good sign, spelling actually, hard core pro. :)
Not in all cases. A Brazilian girl that speaks decent English is NOT a good sign if you meet her in Copacabana and she is obviously a hooker, hangs around a lot of hookers, or the typical Copa hooker joints and she does not have the general education/social position that would warrant solid English proficiency. In all of these cases, chances are that she didn't pick up English in school, but rather on her back in her P4P dealings with foreigners. In the case of your girl (wealthy background, upper-class upbringing, good job, studying to become a doctor), obviously, this is a very different story. In addition, you speak Portuguese, which gives you much wider latitude in terms of the people you can communicate with (on the Internet or in real life), so the fact that you could actually get to know such a "dream" girl does not strike me as particularly unusual. Now if you didn't speak any Portuguese and were a lot older than you actually are, it would.
When I lived in the States, I met several expatriate brasileiras there through work that were highly educated, impeccable English, rock-solid backgrounds and drop-dead gorgeous that would fit your general description. What I am saying is that they are out there: in Brazil and in other countries, definitely. The chances of meeting them as a nondescript Joe Blow monger hitting the most notorious P4P joints, however, are very slim.
I say, go for it. What do you have to lose? Exactly, nothing. If nothing else, you get to spend time with her in Brazil, get to know her family, the country, the culture, the language... with insights that go far beyond the scope of this particular board here. And if it blooms into something else, whether as a GF, a significant other, or God forbid, a spouse, take it as an added bonus. The way you describe her, she just seems to be an absolute sweetheart: funny, intelligent, focused, motivated, hard-working, and pretty to boot. I know a lot of people that are willing to pay a lot of money just to spend time with such a person (needless to say, P4P is much easier than finding such a person), and you are enjoying the company of such a creature for free. Simply enjoy the ride for what it's worth, don't expect too much, don't be disappointed if things don't work out in the long run, and be grateful if they do.
EA
...Again, the question being: "Is she worth it?. Should I go after her? ...
I kindly and sincerely thank you in advance for your constructive input. :)
Valeu. :)Sprite13,
Who Dares, Wins.
Polvo
Judging by what you told us I see absolutely no reason at all to suspect anything bad from this girl. It seems like she really likes you. This girl sounds like a real Jack-Pot.
Don't hesitate, go for her!
Good luck!
P.s She´s a mineira?
First of all, where on earth did you get the idea that a Brazilian girl who speaks English is a hard core pro? Au contraire, mon ami! I have met very few hard core pros who speak more than rudimentary English.
Lorenzo
Just for the record:
My last trip to Rio, I stopped to buy a water at a barraca, the young girl who sold it to me we spoke for about an hour in Portuguese, she portrayed herself as a non pro. After an hour she started speaking fluent English, I spent several days with her and later found out she was a pro. She learned English as an exchange student in high school in the US.
Same trip one night in Help I meet a woman in her 30's, she told me when she was younger she worked Help all the time now she has a tourism business but business is slow, she spoke perfect English. I didn't take her home and I regret it today.
Same trip, had an escort delivered from Fantasy, we spoke half an hour in Portuguese, finally she asked me where I was from, I told her the states, she then started to speak fluent English, was an exchange student also in high school in the states to play soccer. Now she was in Med school and working as an escort for spending money and to live, her speciality was couples.
This was just 3 from the last trip, other trips similar findings. Even had one blond bombshell in Help one night tell me she charges more because she is fluent in English, I told her I didn't need that feature, she said I know I hate you guys who speak Portuguese.
[QUOTE=Sprite13]Gents,
Didn't know where to post this, so I took the liberty of posting it in here. I would like to get the feedback and views of the experts and vets in terms of Brasil and Brasilian girls on an issue that has me quit a bit confused. Here's the thing:
Sprite 13;
I read your post with interest and I would say go for it but be prepared, specialy if you intend to take her to europe, first problem is that if she is acustomed to having maids, she will have a hard time to live without a maid and probably you will have to cook very well or eat out a lot. In europe she may soon tire of you if you are not able to provide a lavish life style with vacations and travel, which over there costs a lot more than in Brasil.
Speaking english or other foreign languages in Brasil does not mean she is a hooker, probably only that she lived overseas as an exchange student and most upper class do this as a means of broadening their childrens cultural horizons.
As a gringo that grew up and lived in Brasil for 30 years my desconfiometro(bs detector) goes off a bit with the part of her being a model and traveling throught brasil, sometimes these modeling jobs are a cover for a high class call girl, although it is possible that she may be legit. The doctor part is ok and even if she does not work in medicine, as upper class persons are expected to have a prestigious profession even if they do not work in it, but verify if she has a diploma or if she interns in any hospital go there or to the university and meet her clasmates.
Go for it with eyes wide open and try not to be extremely suspicious or it wil ruin the experience, but as always be carefull, read the recent posts in crime and violence in Rio section on an american composer murdered and robed by a a suposed girlfriend, also be aware of any jealous ex-boyfriend or one that believes himself to be one, they may stalk and harm you or pay someone to do so.
Brother in laws can be tricky and they might well hate You outright or test you by puting you in compromising situations(ie aranging drugs or hookers) to see what you will do. Be cool and avoid getting in to trouble as higher class families can be sometimes very protective of daughters and sisters.
Boa Sorte: pelicano
What makes me confused is that I am aware that a Brasilian girl that speaks english is not a good sign, spelling actually, hard core pro.
I wish that was true. When I studied at PUC, the Departamento de Letras was filled of lovely girls fluent in English (German, French and Spanish).
Why would a well-educated and wealthy girl have any interest in a gringo? Let us for one moment leave the small world of Copacabana and take a look at the rest of this wonderful country. There are lots of brasileiras with good back-grounds which might be fluent in English, spent their holidays/studied in US/Europe and with relatives in Europe. These girls tends to be interested in estrangeiros.
This interest is not because of help-me-out-of-my-misery. It might be because of the strings she feels to Europe or simply because she's attracted to the european look.
The Sprite-girl seems like a very good candidate for a serious relationship. The step from namorar to marriage is a big step that shouldn't be rushed. You could invite her to live with you in Europe for 3 months and see how it works out. Does she accept your living standards, the climate and the need of cleaning/cocking/washing clothes herself? Will she be happy?
The palm trees at Posto 9 in Ipanema are very beautiful. But bringing one of them back home it would very soon fade away.
Personally I can't stand living faithfully with one girl when there are so many more brazilian girls needing a Sperto. :)
You know those 3 categories girls you described? Guess what? Women have similar categories for us guys!!!
I strongly agree with Lorenzo. Brazil is my favorite place to monger and have learned a thing or two about the culture. Class is EXTREMELY important in Brazil. There is class prejudice there that is similar to racial prejudice in the US. Unless you are in her class, then she has little serious use for you.
The fact that you wrote that her material possessions would make us envious leads me to conclude that you and your family do NOT have anyway near the same level of material wealth, social status, and power. So, you are NOT in her class and she has NO serious use for you.
If you don't mind being used for fun, then go for it. Just do not expect your romp with her to lead to anything long-term.
Sprite 13,
Now for the bad news. Brazilian upper crust women have very little use for gringo men, other than as occasional boy toys. This doesn't mean that she won't fool around with you--think boy toy--especially if you are good looking, charming, good in bed, witty, or any combination of these features. Lorenzo
Yes this is extremely bad news, Fellow mongers listen to Lorenzo's advice and wisdom, if you find a young beautiful sexy rich woman in Brasil who is just interested in your gringo ass just as a Boy Toy, run for the hills, this is bad news.
El Austriaco
10-07-06, 07:54
Yes this is extremely bad news, Fellow mongers listen to Lorenzo's advice and wisdom, if you find a young beautiful sexy rich woman in Brasil who is just interested in your gringo ass just as a Boy Toy, run for the hills, this is bad news.
I just don't get it.
Why would it be bad news if a young beautiful sexy rich woman in Brazil becomes interested in someone just as a boy toy, as long as the guy is aware of this and not oblivious to the fact that, in all likelihood, this will not end up in wedded bliss?
After all, this is a site dedicated to international mongering, populated by guys that are ready to travel far and away and spend quite a bit of money on P4P for no-strings attached sex? Why should a guy who posts here on ISG suddenly run for the hills when a) he might get to have sex with a young, beautiful sexy Brazilian woman who, b) is additionally fun to hang around with and intelligent, and c) this whole experience is free, without any chance of or reason for the girl hitting him up for money afterwards, or at any time?
In my experience, one encounters a number of risks and headaches with many women in Brazil, especially with pros:
Does she really like me or is she just after my money?
Will she try to get pregnant off me as her meal ticket out of her quandary? Will she rip me off in one way or another?
Can I trust her or is she lying to me?
Will she cause me other kind of trouble?
Considering the above, IMHO, being a "boy toy" for a rich Brazilian, even if only for a while, doesn't seem like a bad deal at all to me, especially if you don't expect it to last for a lifetime.
After all, Sprite13, you didn't post your question on www.lookingforeternallove.com.br for a reason, right?
EA
El Austriaco,
I think Rio Bob was making a feeble attempt at sarcasm. His comments were intended to be ironic. I see that he hasn't lost his ability to miss the point completely.
So let's put this into context. The original poster, Sprite 13, was viewing his Brazilian namorada as potential marriage material. This is what the 'bad news' meant, i.e., that the likelihood of his being able to get her, or any other upper class brasileira, to marry him was minimal. But if he or any of us are so lucky as to get an upper class brasileira to want us as a boy toy, and we are content with this status, then of course we should go for it. We should be so lucky! And this is most likely to happen if the rich brasileira is middle aged and married and her boy toy is young, good looking, etc. Young, beautiful, rich women don't usually keep boy toys very long; they have a whole string of them that they discard after use like so much used tissue paper (think Paris Hilton). Come to think of it, that doesn't sound so bad, either. So let's dream on, then get back to the reality of the termas and Help!
Lorenzo
Member #4217
10-07-06, 17:09
I agree with El Austriaco.
I have a girl in Rio who just thinks I am the greatest between the sheets. Except for the the occasional problem of having to tell her I am busy, I have no problems!
I think at first "she" thought she was in love, but now she just settles for when I give her a call, and comes running.
RCA Knight
10-08-06, 22:25
Some are arguing where is better, Brasil or Thailand This is my personal opinion. I think I have been in and out of both countries long enough to make some comments. For all these years past as for mongering aspect I rated 50/50 for both countries. But for other issues like ambiente/enviroment/nature/beach/sanitary ect, no doubt Brasil win very big over Thailand. Thailand is not a country for any pleasure walk. Price aspect also a tie. Decent looking Thais girls are no longer dirt cheap. In conventional venues like massages, agogos, ect expect to pay 60-90 USD for a shot for a medum to above medium ones. For the visa issue, Brasil is much more visa friendly than Thailand which is a big visa-money sucking leech. Now they only allow tourists to enter on 3 visa-on-arrival each one for 30 days, total of 90 days in 180days period. So if you spend over 90 days in 180 days period, you will not be allowed to get in for another 90 days. If you want spend more time, then you have to pay for tourist visas from outside of Thailand. And it said sometimes the consulate will even reject you a tourist visa for being in Thailand too often or too long. The Thai overall situation now is pretty much a joke. No one sure whats going on in their ever changing policies. So the visa issue, Brasil is a clear winner.
Recently of this 2 years or so, I have sensed a big slump in the quality of girls in Thailand. This is not only felt by me, but also all my long term monger pals. The cuties are quite rare in conventional venues today like massage, agogos, karaokes, freelancing establishments, ect as compared to 4-5 years ago. Also the girls in Thailand have become more and more business-like over recent years. The pay sex there now really feel like pay sex, a business transaction only. The girlfriendly feeling is getting more rare there. In this respect, I also have to vote Brasil as a winner.
I have discussed with my many monger pals in Thailand as why the cute ones simply disappeared. I have some answers. These recent years, there is huge increases in high class Thai gentleman lounges and high class karaokes. Lots of cuties from all venues simply flowed into these kind of high-end establishments. Secondly so many new venues and establishments of all ranks have been built in recent years, simply there are not enough cute ones to spread all over the entire expanding market. Also more and more cuties including students in Thailand are getting paid to be someone’s mistresses, or sexual friends, so another big chunks are off the market. I believe these reasons contribute the huge decline in quality in Thai sex market. I have to vote Brasil again for quality and availability at present time.
About the variety of girls, and choices of monger destinations, Brasil is also a clear winner. In Thailand there are very few monger destinations, Bangkok, Pattaya, Phuket, that’s about it. If you are regular in Brasil, you will have problems in environmental factors in long stay in Thailand. The pollution, air quality, lack of greenery, lack of nice beaches, absolutely no Thai girls wear bikinis, these are the big downsides. As in Brasil, you have thousand of miles of beautiful beaches and hundreds of beautiful cities and towns to choose from with millions of t-string bikini babes.. Also the availability of freebies is much much greater in Brasil than Thailand. Freebies in Thailand is nearly a mission impossible, even you get a free shot or two, the girl will try to get something out of you very soon down the road if you are foreigner. But this is not the case in Brasil. Lots of freebies for fun everywhere or for some deeper relation.
Also as for night life, things are getting worse in Thailand. Few years ago, they started to shut down all night clubs at 1AM or 2 AM. The night is dead now absolutely in Thailand after 2AM. Some of famous agogo distrct in Bangkok like Nana Plaza no longer have nude dancing from 3 years ago. Pattaya still do, but things can change over night in Thailand just like the coup.
My true feeling has to vote for Brasil as a clear overall winner in all categories at the present stage. I am bound for a long trip to Brasil from December to maybe till Feb. Destinations: Guaruja, Bertioga, Riviera Sao Lourenco, capital SP, Curitiba, and lastly Floripa.
Well guys, I have experienced being a "Toy Boy" of a rich upper class braziliera. She was a very beautiful woman 10 years older than me at the time.
I can tell you that the experience was emotionnally very intense as a love story. These women are lionesses! They are able to kill you after ripping your eyes off if you cheat on them. And they are constantly testing you and investigating on you. I am sure this one would have been able to draw a gun and shoot me if she had found out any misstep on my part.
I was constantly showered with gifts. She was dragging me in the most expensive stores to buy me things. I had to fight to be able to use my credit card to pay for the hotel on weekends. She would make public scandals when I inadvertently looked at other women.
In bed, she told me she wanted to be "my wife, my mistress and my w*hore". She was ready for anything. I had never found a woman so willing to do anything for her lover. Wow! She would pack my luggage, cook my meals, iron my shirts, and she was happy to do it for me, as a proof of her love, even though she had 20 employees at home (cooks, drivers, guards, janitors, maids, gardeners, secretary, etc).
Her husband was probably doing the same (or worse) on the side. She did not care to have the house driver take us to hotels or to the airport. She did not try to hide me.
I am sure that she did not cheat on me while our relationship lasted.
After our romantic meetings, she would give me away her very expensive lingerie and obliged me to carry it in my case so that I could still smell her perfume.
I like this story, I have the same problem
Rich upper class Brasilieras are always paying me to fuck them when all I need is love
Non pro action: every monger's fantasy!
Boa Sorte, Veterano
Rabbone1111
10-09-06, 05:00
Would anyone know where one could watch football (NFL) at a sports bar in Copa? I heard there are few sports bars in the area.
I think I wrote the definitive report on the contrasts between Thailand and Brazil (actually Rio vs Bangkok) back in 2004. Here's a link to that report: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=299281&postcount=700. Judging from what RCA Knight says in his post, some of the things in my report may be out of date. I was last in Bangkok in June 2005, and I didn't notice any decrease in the quality of Thai girls at that time, and it was still marginally cheaper than Rio, especially considering the increase in the value of the real.
Regarding visas, RCA Knight doesn't say what his nationality is, but if he finds Brazil more visa friendly, he probably isn't American. Brazil requires a visa of US citizens, which costs US$110 the last I heard. This is reciprocity for what we charge Brazilians (and everyone else needing a tourist visa). I have had two visas good for 5 years, but I have read on this forum that some people are getting 90 day visas. Thailand does not require visas for visits of 30 days or less.
Another important factor: Rio is dangerous; Bangkok is not. But overall, RCA Knight is right: Rio beats out Bangkok. But Bangkok is a strong second.
Lorenzo
First of all, I'd like to thank you all for your informative feedback. Very much appreciated!
Now, answering as many of the points raised as possible from a chronological order in which they were posted:
Lorenzo,
Yes I did do my homework in this case. As I have mentioned on the first post on this topic, I did meet and on several occasions, her family, the maids, went to a few family parties/celebrations where basically all her relatives were present and she proudly and nicely introduced me to all of them. I also met a lot of her friends, schoolmates and colleagues as well. She also took me with her to a couple of her photo shoots, all regular shoots, not nude or anything like that. She would be asked to pose for catalogues of everyday clothings for the general public. Yes, like some of you in here, I was skeptical about all this when she told me initially before we met all that she was doing. I just had to see it for myself to believe it and I did and it was/is everything she said it was. She is definitely true and not a fraud.
When I went to Brasil, I was originally planning to stay in her hometown only at most 3-4 days and I loved it so much there coupled with the fact that we hit it off so well that I ended up spending my entire time or almost there. I had lined up 2-3 other non-pros from internet in other cities but never got the time to visit them.
As much as very friendly, outgoing and nice as she is, she definitely is not an easy girl. I spent 3 weeks with her and she only gave it up in the last night. I am aware that is almost unheard of for Brasilian girls with the average being after 2-3 dates at most, but with her, no. And despite an understandable frustration from my part, I got to respect her even more for that and that is one of the reasons I stayed with her for so long while in Brasil and not getting it. What initially attracted me and still attracts me to her to this day, is her absolutely enchanting personality: her superb sense of humour, a smile to die for and a laugh that makes you literally melt.
As to whether or not I will marry her, that's a totally different story. It is true that she is or at least appears based on what I have seen while being with her that she could be a great potential significant other, I believe the best approach would be not to force it nor to burn the steps. She is definitely a girl I'd like to get to know better and only time will tell if there's anything serious in store for the both of us. I am young and in no hurry of settling down yet. I want to travel, see the world and have fun and enjoy myself before the big jump. Oh and yes, doing some sampling of the fine varieties of women available. :D
And my friend Lorenzo, it is everything but free. It not only cost me 3 weeks of non-getting laid while in Brasil. I was looking so much forward to this trip to sample the great termas I had been reading on these boards and sample as much of the Brasilian bundas as possible, but I fortunately or unfortunately, got stuck. But also, money wise, it was quite a pricey experience. As they say, when in Rome, do as the Romans and when in the company of the wealthy, one has to hold their head up. I felt bad seeing her paying for everything, so I also did my fair share of contribution and we're not talking fast food type of food, more like GK's type of restaurants. :D But again, If I had to do it again, I'd gladly do it without hesitation.
I believe I may have if not beaten, at least reached a new record for Brasil: being there for 3 weeks and not getting laid. (Ok, I'll be honest, I did get laid in Rio in the beginning and end of my trip, but not in her hometown as I was "stuck" with her most of the time and when I was alone, I couldn't risk it.). But I honestly didn't regret it as a girl like that, is a diamond and a rare find.
Sperto, she is not a mineira, but close. She's from DF.
Pelicano,
She has already been to both Europe for vacation several times and the US as a student exchange while in high school. I am in Canada. She would love to visit the Great White One but not until she graduates. She has a plan well established with her own priorities and I respect her for that as she is not the type of woman to be a burden on the man since she is independant.
As for her family, I got along nicely with her brother and the grand parents and father and most everyone else. However, it was from the mother that I felt a kind of coldness and distance. I recall once going to her house and her mother was in the living room reading the paper when we entered holding each other's hands and the mother looked almost as if surprised, I could feel and sense it. Sometimes, the mother would speak to her in German in my presence and I felt ackward and in turn, I would speak to her in French in front of the mother. :D ahahah. On a serious note, should I make anything of that reaction/behaviour from the mother or is that going to be something trivial and nothing to worry about should we decide to take it more seriously next time?
One important point worth mentioning is that contrary to most girls I've met in Brasil who are dreaming of leaving Brasil to Europe and or North America, she doesn't want to leave Brasil and leave abroad. Yes, she would like to spend some time travelling (say 1-2 years outside in Europe/Japan/China/Canada) but she wants to live in Brasil. And having seen the standard of life she has, it doesn't take a genius to see why. In the US/Canada and Europe, she probably won't have all the luxuries she enjoys in Brasil. I also realised that in Brasil, one could have a quality of life a lot better than in North America and Europe for a fraction of the cost in the Western World.
I totally agree that class is paramount in Brasil and we've had discussions on this topic a few times. George, it is true that from a Canadian/North American and Western European standard, I/my family might not have the same level of material wealth as her family enjoys in Brasil. However, if we were in Brasil, I believe we would be in the same class as her, but it's all relative I guess.
We're still in touch, we talk on the phone at least once a week and we are quite close friends. Friends for when we're away, but in Brasil, it's a different story. ;) She has a hectic dating life as I do and we're both cool with it. I believe it may be unrealistic to expect someone in another country to restrain themselves from dating. That's one of the primary basic needs of human beings.
Acho que é isso por enquanto, I hope I haven't bored you guys with all this. :D And once again, I am looking for your constructive and informative feedback.
Cheers
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
I like this story, I have the same problem. Rich upper class Brasilieras are always paying me to fuck them when all I need is love. Non pro action: every monger's fantasy! Boa Sorte, Veterano
Veterano. I am not sure that you have ever been the lover of a braziliera. These girls are authentic. They are not buying you. They are just all out giving everything they can for their lover. They completely abandon themselves. They go nuts when it's a romantic affair. They are not paying to get sex. They give you all their love. Sex is easy in Brazil, it's all over the place. These women do not need to pay to get fucked.
4) If you read the few reports by people who live there or who have extensive experience in Rio, speak Portuguese, and who are looking for cheaper options beyond the tourist segment (mainly Sperto, Bubba Boy, Ibiza, Full Throttle, and myself), you will find many cheaper options.
Earlier this year, I wrote a longer piece about Rio pricing:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=426554&postcount=91
Hope this helps,
EA
EA...this is killer info. Many thanks, I will go back and refocuse reading on the above mentioned posters as well as your pricing piece and re-eval. Is good to hear this kind of info.
I fully agree w you re the bias in reporting, I also feel the same way in terms of bias in pics posted. I re prior to my first trip to the DR reading about guys dropping 40-60 bucks for all nighters...I got away with 15 or so most of the time and only paying that much one time I went to Crystal's. Language does help as well as looks and time to work it...
Thanks again!
EA...this is killer info. Many thanks, I will go back and refocuse reading on the above mentioned posters as well as your pricing piece and re-eval. Is good to hear this kind of info.
I fully agree w you re the bias in reporting, I also feel the same way in terms of bias in pics posted. I re prior to my first trip to the DR reading about guys dropping 40-60 bucks for all nighters...I got away with 15 or so most of the time and only paying that much one time I went to Crystal's. Language does help as well as looks and time to work it...
Thanks again!
Hola Concarne, Como estas? I have had the same experiences in the DR to paying dirt cheap beacuse I know the language. During my 1st trip to Rio I met up with a vet of Brazil who showed me where the 30R spots where located and in Centro and I went carzy there my 1st time slaying 3 garotas for 90R in about 2.30 hours not even being in Rio for less than 6 hours yet and not unpacking my bags till I returned at night. The most I paid a Copacabana hoe was 150R from Help considering I only pulled 1 garota out of Help during my entire 8 day trip to Rio, I only went in Help 2 times I found it a waste of time, I will stick to the Termas and Centro and thats all I need and Im good. In the future Im going to check out other spots in Brazil like Salvador, Sao Paulo etc......
Sui Generis
10-09-06, 18:03
Veterano. I am not sure that you have ever been the lover of a braziliera. These girls are authentic. They are not buying you. They are just all out giving everything they can for their lover. They completely abandon themselves. They go nuts when it's a romantic affair. They are not paying to get sex. They give you all their love. Sex is easy in Brazil, it's all over the place. These women do not need to pay to get fucked.
I just want to add a word on the authenticity of Brazilian women. Two years ago I met here (in Montreal) a Brazilian woman. Whitout going too much into details, I can tell you that she is a Nordestina and that she is doing her PH.D. in Montréal.
I met her at the university (where I am a professor) and unfortunately she fell in love with me. I say unfortunately because I am with the same woman for tenty years and I am happy with her. (She even accepts that I travel alone in Brazil and she knows what I will do there!). This is also the reason why I prefer to have sex with escorts and not to be involved with a mistress. With women you pay, there's no strings attached...
So, after my third encounter (where I was supposed to help her perfectionate her French) that Brazilian woman said that she was in love with me, that she had a strong sexual desire for me.. tesão.
I laughed..and said to her: Honey! You're not my first Brazilian pussy. No offence, but I don't want to have sex with you. We can just be friends, that's fine with me.
That woman is quite attractive (she's in her late 30) and even if we are only friends, she still treats me like if I am her lover. I'll just give you one example and you will understand.
Earlier this winter I had problem with one of my knees. When she noticed that she arranged an appointment with her chiropractor. If you know Brazilian women, you know that you cannot say «no» to a Brazilian woman. So I went to see her chiropractor and I had the surpise of my life. She had paid in advance the whole treatment for me! As you can imagine I didn't like it because I am an independant person. But when I talked with her I learned that's the way Brazilian women treat the people they like. So, in general, Brazilian women are very authentic and loving persons.
I also had the same experience with GP in Brazil. If they really like you, they wont hassle you for money...
Would anyone know where one could watch football (NFL) at a sports bar in Copa? I heard there are few sports bars in the area.
There is a place that is pretty new in Copa called "The Office" , its located on the street right behind Help. It is truly a Sports Bar, with the TV's all over the place, beers and food, this place is really all you need. Plus I believe that on certain nights they have live music and get a local crowd of non pros, so I have heard as I never made it there for this.
The Marriott has a big screen TV in their lobby bar, they always have the games on but I think they might have lost business since The Office opened.
Then there is Lord Jims English Pub in Leblon and Shenanigans Irish Pub in Ipanema which I went to once on St Patricks day, I waited on line to get a beer for 10 minutes and left, ended up at The pussy Cat lounge instead.
At the Marriot a couple of sundays ago they had only 1 game on & the sound was in portuguese-+ their prices for drink/food are sky high-just like any other 5-star hotel.
At the Office, meanwhile, on Rua Aires Saldanha, the little street btwn Av. Atlantica & Av. N.S. de Copacabana, 2 games were on-1 in english- though they do charge you a 10R cover for the sunday day games-they claim it's to recoup the cost of the nfl sunday ticket direct tv package. No cover charge during the sunday nite or monday nite games. Lots of american style bar food available.
Very convenient location real close to help-at 1/2 time or after games go directly to TA in front of help & pick up some dessert.
shemp
...This is also the reason why I prefer to have sex with escorts and not to be involved with a mistress... With women you pay, there's no strings attached... Earlier this winter I had problem with one of my knees. When she noticed that she arranged an appointment with her chiropractor. If you know Brazilian women, you know that you cannot say «no» to a Brazilian woman. So I went to see her chiropractor and I had the surpise of my life. She had paid in advance the whole treatment for me! As you can imagine I didn't like it because I am an independant person. But when I talked with her I learned that's the way Brazilian women treat the people they like. So, in general, Brazilian women are very authentic and loving persons.
Hey Sui Generis. What a nice story! Yes, this is exactly what I feel about these great magnificent women. This is also why paid sex is less hassle. Regards. BB.
I posted in the opinions on American Women thread (which don't frequent) but this shit is why we do what we do . . .
http://people.aol.com/people/article/0,26334,1544459,00.html
Last November, I attended a wonderful Reggae/Rock concert at Sugar Loaf during the evenning hours on a saturday night. I was given tickets from a travel agent, so they were freebies. Each ticket was worth around 50 reals.
I enjoyed the concert quite a bit, and would love to go again.
I will be returning to Rio on Nov. 16th, and be there for a 2 week stay, and I am pretty sure that these concerts only take place during a certain time of the year. Does anyone know if there will be anymore events at Sugar loaf in November, and if so, how can I find out who will be performing ahead of time as well as knowing where to buy the tickets? Thanks! Laters!
You could check out this site and see if they are running concerts this summer: http://oinoitescariocas.oi.com.br/
There are a few websites about nightlife in Rio. http://www.riofesta.com.br is one.
Probably just wait until closer to the time. Then buy Jornal do Brasil on a Friday, or O Globo on a Thusday or Friday (I forget which) for concert info.
Thanks for the guidance, much appreciated. I will look into the matter using the sources provided. If and when I find info., I will share with the board. Laters!
A must read for all those that always ask me... do you know of an On-line dating service in Brazil where I can meet a Normal Girl.......
http://www.newsnet5.com/news/10078507/detail.html?rss=nn5&psp=news
FYI, The Discovery Channel has a documentary on Brazil tonight at about 8pm(2hrs long). It will be rebroadcasted again 2-3hrs later. Check your local listing.
Gents,
My Flight is booked and hotel booked. Off to Bahia from Nov 3rd to Nov 21st. I have 2 non pros lined up. One she is 24, works but studies nights offered to take 4 days off to show me around.she has a motorbike
Says I will meet her family and all. We talk by phone and e-mails at least twice a week. Anyone going to be in Bahia during this time frame? Please get in touch with me.
I have been learning basic portuguese. Just completed lesson 4 of prismeleur ( Pardon my spelling).
Take care guys.
Tony
Pipe Layer99
10-21-06, 23:10
FYI, The Discovery Channel has a documentary on Brazil tonight at about 8pm(2hrs long). It will be rebroadcasted again 2-3hrs later. Check your local listing.I saw that documentary on Brazil. It was interesting/OK if you have nothing better to do. Mainly general info about life in Brasil - covers the lives of about 6 different people. A young troubled boy who goes to a school to learn a martial art and get some discipline, a girl who wants to dance in the carnival, a young man wants to be a rodeo star (thats not a typo - bull riding), a young girl who lives with grandma and decorates the street for carnival.
For those who have been to Rio or even read this forum, its nothing new. I've only been to Rio once. I can honestly say I learned more about Brasil from reading this forum. DD
Hello: I got an offer to fly to the following destinations:
Bangkok
Singapore
Tokyo
Bombay
Johannesburg
Nairobi
Sao Paulo
Table end
I was wondering whether I could get an advice as to what destination to choose. My criteria are as follows: since I live on a fix income I am looking for a reasonably cheap place, since I am disabled I am looking for a place which might be friendly towards people with disabilities, for a place with relatively low crime and cheap accommodation. I am looking for a place with low std rate and cheap service providers, I am willing to branch to other cities or countries from the destinations mentioned above so I am looking for a place which can be interested in a traveler as well. Thank you very much for your help.
bring your best party clothes
in rio, the beaches are pretty, the people are pretty and the clubs are pretty
john bordsen
travel editor
foreign correspondence cristiano nogueira, 32, is author of "rio for partiers: the twenty something's guide to rio de janeiro" (solcat, $27.95). the rio native lived in chicago and vienna, austria, before returning to brazil, where he writes, edits and publishes travel guides.
q. so how much partying do you do?
personally, just three nights a week, usually thursday, friday and saturday; it used to be more. now i'm working on guides. this changes between dec. 15 and march 15 -- the time of year when all brazilians work less than usual and are extremely hyped by any events, including parties.
that's when it's summer in brazil, and the same energy you see in north american cities between june and august goes on down here. it's six nights of partying.
q. in what part of rio do you live?
ipanema, probably the best part of rio. it's surely one of the best neighborhoods, and it's also the prettiest and most cozy. i can walk two blocks to most anything i need; i can walk two or three blocks to the best beach in rio.
the beach at ipanema has the best-looking people, fantastic waves and water, plus beer guys. there are masseurs working along the beach.
you can play volleyball and foot-volley -- a version of volleyball you play with your feet. it's only played in rio and some other places in brazil. very popular, but hard to play. you use bare feet and need to be in top-notch condition.
q. you lived in chicago, which has beaches. how are rio's different?
rio's beaches have ocean waves; they're more interesting to look at. and it expands the possibilities of [CodeWord118] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord118) -- you can waterboard and bodysurf.
another difference is part of the culture of rio. people already have everything they need for the beach -- their own chairs, umbrellas and so on -- and have an exact spot they go to. they'll go to that one spot their whole lives. if you're a beach-goer and so are your friends, that's where you meet. you don't have to call anyone: of 20 friends, six or more of them will just show up at that spot on any given weekend.
also, you can drink at the beach. most don't start doing this until 6 or 7 at night, when beach life mixes with the rest of nightlife. you can start at 11 a.m., but that's not common for cariocas, the name for residents of rio.
q. and what do people drink at the beach?
beer or caipirinhas -- which are made of lime, sugar, ice and cachassa. the cachassa is a brazilian rum, which is made from sugar cane. or you can use vodka.
the beers are lagers because the weather is always hot. you want something that'll hydrate you. reds, pales and dark beers aren't popular here. skol is a popular brand.
matte -- a brazilian iced tea -- is also popular. the leaves used here produce a tea that's deeper, stronger and darker.
q. how far is the beach at ipanema from the clubs and restaurants?
you can find anything you need within two blocks, but ipanema has only two clubs.
there are a lot of bars, though.
i tell readers to explore rio more, of course, because rio is so huge. but i don't recommend all areas. it can cost $10 just to take a taxi to some place, and there's no need for that. also, you don't want to get too far from ipanema, copacabana and some other neighboring areas. these are all in the south zone, where tourists have more options to hang out. in the north zone or downtown, there's the possibility you could get into trouble. it's not likely, but i wouldn't recommend it.
q. your favorite nightclub?
it's called zero zero, and is like a trendy, l.a. indoor place, but it's a garden and patio. it's a restaurant with a great lineup of djs. service is impeccable and diplomatic. they won't make you wait outside in order to give the impression that it's packed inside. when you order something, the waiter brings it to you as fast as possible.
another place is rio scenario, a samba club with live samba music. it's an amazing place that appeals to 25- to 65-year-olds. they're all well-behaved, good-looking people having the time of their lives. the place is decorated with pop-culture artifacts from the last hundred years. i'll see stuff from my childhood that i forgot about. i'll see stuff my grandmother used to have on her mantel.
it doesn't discriminate between young and old. it looks beautiful and has great music and food.
they specialize in northeast brazilian and country cuisine. northeast would be a bit similar to tex-mex in that it features jerked meat and sun-dried beef. the most-used carbohydrate comes from cassava, as opposed to wheat, corn or potatoes.
country food, from brazil's interior, is nothing extravagant. examples would be fried cassava, or a cheeseball snack.
q. what are the do's and don'ts we should know?
here's something many americans and europeans have a problem with: they feel you have to hang out with a girl all night before you make a move. but here, when you meet a girl you like and talk to her for five or 10 minutes, you can go ahead and put a kiss on her. she may not want to kiss you, but she won't be offended.
it's not an etiquette thing, but an aspect of dating culture.
also, there's the consumption card system: at a club, instead of paying for each drink, they mark it on a card -- jotting your order or checking off boxes -- and at the end you pay for what's listed on it. this makes sense for two reasons: you're not having to offer a tip on each drink, which can be expensive, and you don't have to be concerned with money when ordering. you don't have to be looking in your wallet every moment.
q. dress code problems?
mostly with europeans. they like to backpack, and if you're 35 or younger, you think, "ok. i don't need nice clothes with finesse. i can just wear bermudas or a simple dress and be fine." which isn't the case.
like any third world country, either you're poor or extremely rich here. if you go to a club here, you'll see the richest or most well-connected people. you'll be seeing all the fashion brands. go to a club dressed like crap, wearing sandals or flip-flops, and the bouncer will tell you, "sorry, but the ambience is casual chic."
for nightclubs, bring nice clothes. you don't need a tie, but wear something that keeps up with international fashion
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Member #4217
10-23-06, 01:29
Bring your best party clothes.
Foreign Correspondence Cristiano Nogueira, 32, is author of "Rio for Partiers: The Twenty Something's Guide to Rio de Janeiro" (SolCat, $27.95). The Rio native lived in Chicago and Vienna, Austria, before returning to Brazil, where he writes, edits and publishes travel guides.Big deal! I have been to and/ or lived all over Europe, the US and Alaska. I recognize that this qualifies me to know absolutely nothing about Rio/ Brazil because it is sooo unique!
I tell readers to explore Rio more, ... you don't want to get too far from Ipanema, Copacabana and some other neighboring areas. ... In the north zone or downtown, there's the possibility you could get into trouble. It's not likely, but I wouldn't recommend it.If you want to have a good time in Rio for more than a couple of days, I fully recommend at a minimum finding the shopping areas and mongoring activities in the Centro areas. Praca de Republica is a good place to pick up amatuers!
Q. Dress code problems?
Like any Third World country, either you're poor or extremely rich here.
Go to a club dressed like crap, wearing sandals or flip-flops, and the bouncer will tell you, "Sorry, but the ambience is casual chic."
For nightclubs, bring nice clothes. You don't need a tie, but wear something that keeps up with international fashion.I agree that you do not generally go to a club in shorts and flops, but who does that. I did not see that in England, Madrid, Paris, Berlin, Ireland or most of the other places I went to in Europe. If you are that much of a moron, you probably do not have the money for the air fare to Brazil.
But, I found almost all of the clubs I went into very casual. ie, if you want to wear nice jeans and a T-shirt, no real problems. Yes, there are a few trendy places, but as in any major city, they are the exception. And, they are not really my cup of tea.
As I said, most of this advice comes from what appears to be a typical x-carioca who wants his city to be more than it is.
IMHO
Tom
Member #4217
10-23-06, 19:33
Bring your best party clothes
JOHN BORDSEN
Travel EditorMy previous comments were directed at this guy:
Foreign Correspondence Cristiano Nogueira, 32, is author of "Rio for Partiers: The Twenty Something's Guide to Rio de Janeiro" (SolCat, $27.95). The Rio native lived in Chicago and Vienna, Austria, before returning to Brazil, where he writes, edits and publishes travel guides.
I kknow that Rio Bob agrees with most, if not all, of what I said about this Travel Editor who clearly caters to the older, more conservative elderly!
Tom
Track Star
10-24-06, 17:52
Hey TomNJerry527,
This is a follow up...waiting for the report with many many pics from Vila Mimosa.
When are you heading overthere??
Sorry for being such an impatient fukr. :-)
TrackStar
Member #4217
10-24-06, 19:20
Hey TomNJerry527,
This is a follow up...waiting for the report with many many pics from Vila Mimosa.
When are you heading overthere??
Sorry for being such an impatient fukr. :-)
TrackStarI will be leaving 1 week from today. I will be in Rio until next April. I do, already have my 1st afternoon and evening planned. Come to think of it, I probably have the first week tied up with a few friendly faces.
But, the following week, I intend to do a day time scout and photo trip to VM. And, probably following the wise advise I received here, I will be doing a Firday evening trip in the same week.
As for being an impatient fukr, none is more impatient for my arrival back in Rio, than I!
I am looking forward to meeting some of you guys in the coming months! Actually, I was thinking about having a Roman toga type f*ck party later toward December in my apartment.
Anyone interested?
Tom
I am off to Rio in less than 24 hours! YA!. Anyway is it possible to take two girls into a cabin in any of the Termas? Is this something allowed or possible?
I am off to Rio in less than 24 hours! YA!. Anyway is it possible to take two girls into a cabin in any of the Termas? Is this something allowed or possible?
Absolutely. But it's scarcely worth it because, at L'uomo at least, you not only have to pay for 2 girls, but you have to pay for the room twice, which is an absolute ripoff. I protested when I saw the bill, but to no avail.
Lorenzo
Trippleecks
10-26-06, 20:26
Just got this from Kenn at ez-riorentals.com , he now has an office across the street from Bobby. Rua Xavier da Silveira, 40. I would love to see Bobby's face the first time he sees the sign. Here is a photo he sent me and you can actually see Bobby’s blue sign in the reflection in the window.
Just got this from Kenn at ez-riorentals.com , he now has an office across the street from Bobby. Rua Xavier da Silveira, 40. I would love to see Bobby's face the first time he sees the sign.
The first time Bobby sees the sign he won’t notice because he will be drunk as usual – he will have to see the sign a few times before he realises what it is.
Just got this from Kenn at ez-riorentals.com , he now has an office across the street from Bobby. Rua Xavier da Silveira, 40. I would love to see Bobby's face the first time he sees the sign. Here is a photo he sent me and you can actually see Bobby’s blue sign in the reflection in the window.
Its difficult to tell for sure but this looks like the travel agency/Cambio that has been across the street from Bobby's for years. Did he rent a desk in that office?
Trippleecks
10-27-06, 01:17
It's a new place... it's where the car rental agency was.....
Ken said he now works with the travel agency / cambio.. So now Ken is a full service shop. Tours in Rio, Airfare, Cambio, and Apartments. He even has a 15 passenger van now. All right across the street from Bobby.
I guess I did not pay for Bobby to pirate Ken's URL address a few years ago.. Bobby has a talent for being his own worst enemy. Competition is the best revenge.
Latitude Cruz
10-27-06, 02:38
Bobby has a talent for being his own worst enemy. Competition is the best revenge.
I've used Bobby a few times for apartments and domestic airline tickets. I've always found his service to be good, while the apartment quality varied a bit. Has Bobby got a bad reputation on this board with previous customers?
LC
Hello everyone,
Can any member tell me why car prices are so much higher than the US,
for example a Kia Sorento is priced at 135,000 reals. That's more than double the US price?
Is it the taxes? How other cars priced at?
Thanks
Brasil wants to sell cars manufacutred in Brasil. My ex-wife bought a For Eco-Sport (SUV) in 2004 for R$45,000, she just traded it in for r$37,000 and bought a Chevy Vectra (2007) for r$47,000.
You do have to remember, stick shift, no ABS, no air bags. Imports are out of sight.
In dollars, that is about $20,000 for an average car.
Hello everyone,
Can any member tell me why car prices are so much higher than the US,
for example a Kia Sorento is priced at 135,000 reals. That's more than double the US price?
Is it the taxes? How other cars priced at?
ThanksJust good old-fashioned tariffs and domestic corporate protectionism. Domestics are cheaper, but since they don't have to compete with imports on price, they're still pretty expensive. But hey, policies like this that keep the locals materially poor is a main factor in making Brazil such a great place to monger, and given the fact that a beachfront condo in Rio runs about the same price as a half-decent three-bedroom house in an okay middle-class area of Los Angeles, it all evens out as far as foreign mongers are concerned.
All in all, I wouldn't make too much of it... it's more of a blessing to you than a curse...
I need some help. I'm going to be in Rio Feb. 15-25 and I'm looking for a 3 bedroom apartment. I'm looking to spend a max of $130/night. Is there such an apartment? I've emailed a couple of people & the only one that has gotten back to me so far is EZ rio rentals and they quoted me like $250 a night, almost double than what I want to spend & is telling me that's the norm. Is that the norm, or are they trying to stiff me? Help, please.
Member #4217
10-28-06, 19:43
I need some help. I'm going to be in Rio Feb. 15-25 and I'm looking for a 3 bedroom apartment. I'm looking to spend a max of $130/night. Is there such an apartment? I've emailed a couple of people & the only one that has gotten back to me so far is EZ rio rentals and they quoted me like $250 a night, almost double than what I want to spend & is telling me that's the norm. Is that the norm, or are they trying to stiff me? Help, please.They are not trying to stiff you. "Carnival" No more to say!
Try these 2. I'v dealt with both, and they worked hard to help me get a good deal:
http://www.rentaflat.com.br/index.php
Talk to Felipe here. He speaks good English.
http://www.gringomanagement.com/
Talk to David. Some on this board like to dis him, but most seem to get a fair shake. I know he has always done good by me.
Tom
You are going during Carnival, which is the most expensive time to visit Rio. Don't think he is trying to stiff you. You are not going to find a 3 bedroom for $130 a night during the high season. Those days are gone. Check the apartment section. Good luck. You're go to need it.
RonnyRon
Trippleecks
10-29-06, 10:43
Hi Infamous1, Ken from Ez-rio has been a member here for a LOOONG time and not one person has ever said he ripped them off. I have used him for 3 years now, about 2x a year and have never been disappointed.
This must be your first trip to Rio, otherwise you would know what prices were for descent apartments. $130.00 for a 3 bedroom apartment for the low season should be about right. New years and carnival are both much more expensive and $250.00 a night should be about right for 3 bedrooms. I have seem 3 bedroom apartments with ocean views asking $5,000.00 or more for New years or carnival. I rented a 2 bedroom at $200.00 a night last year. If you think that $250.00 is too much, just don't go for carnival and try going in March. Prices should be within your budget then.
I need some help. I'm going to be in Rio Feb. 15-25 and I'm looking for a 3 bedroom apartment. I'm looking to spend a max of $130/night. Is there such an apartment? I've emailed a couple of people & the only one that has gotten back to me so far is EZ rio rentals and they quoted me like $250 a night, almost double than what I want to spend & is telling me that's the norm. Is that the norm, or are they trying to stiff me? Help, please.Ez-riorentals (Kenn) is not ripping you off, as TnJ said, carnival, and typicaly there is a minimum stay. His apartments are very nice.
riorentals.com also has a lot of apartment that are nice.
TnJ,
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Hello: I got an offer to fly to the following destinations:
Bangkok
Singapore
Tokyo
Bombay
Johannesburg
Nairobi
Sao Paulo
Table end
I was wondering whether I could get an advice as to what destination to choose. My criteria are as follows: since I live on a fix income I am looking for a reasonably cheap place, since I am disabled I am looking for a place which might be friendly towards people with disabilities, for a place with relatively low crime and cheap accommodation. I am looking for a place with low std rate and cheap service providers, I am willing to branch to other cities or countries from the destinations mentioned above so I am looking for a place which can be interested in a traveler as well. Thank you very much for your help.Of the places that you mention that I have been to, Singapore has some attractions. It has pretty well zero crime. Avoid the main hotels and you can get excellent backpacker accommodation or out of town places. Sao Paulo, Bangkok, and Bombay teem with people who may try to rip you off, although the going rate when you can find it is much lower. They are not easy cities to navigate. Bombay especially is quite chaotic and, outside of the luxury hotels, has a very third world feel compared to even Bangkok and Brasil. Tokyo, like Singapore is very 'civilised' in a Western sense and without big swathes of crime and poverty. Finding action in Tokyo without the help of a local can be hard work though - and everything is very expensive in Japan until you know how to do things at 'local' or Korean rate.
Another advantage of Singapore is that you can get a relatively inexpensive side trip to Bali, which is small and heavenly (and very cheap). Accommodation in Bali can cost next to nothing, crime is low, action is plentiful and inexpensive.
I was told by a monger that 4X4 paid the taxi fare there (about 20 Reals from Copacabana). Result--I may have snaked a driver. Oops!
Went back last night and had the embassment of having the driver come into the changing room to get his money.
Some gorgeous Black women there last night.
Entrance -- 30 Reals
Short time -- 150 Reals
One hour -- 170 Reals
I was told by a monger that 4X4 paid the taxi fare there (about 20 Reals from Copacabana). Result--I may have snaked a driver. Oops!
Went back last night and had the embassment of having the driver come into the changing room to get his money.
Some gorgeous Black women there last night.
Entrance -- 30 Reals
Short time -- 150 Reals
One hour -- 170 Reals4x4 gives the driver 10 reals. Solarium gives 20 reals.
Of Road, Giggity, thanks for the comments
From my short stay in sao Paulo last february, I did not pay attention to the ratio of imports versus manufactured in Brazil. So all imports cars are about double the US prices, right?
Can any member estimate this ratio? any experience in importing a used car to Brazil, and what was the import tax? I know a company that can ship 4 cars to brazil for about $3000usd, individual car would be a bit higher.
Of Road, Giggity, thanks for the comments
From my short stay in sao Paulo last february, I did not pay attention to the ratio of imports versus manufactured in Brazil. So all imports cars are about double the US prices, right?
Can any member estimate this ratio? any experience in importing a used car to Brazil, and what was the import tax? I know a company that can ship 4 cars to brazil for about $3000usd, individual car would be a bit higher.
I have a 2006 BMW, it would cost me 150% of the car price to import.. So not feasable (I am not going to pay $115,000 to import a $76,000 car.
There are not many imports there, companies like Mercedes manufacture there. Used vehicles are worse then new ones.
Oh, you also have to have a permanent visa to bring anything into the country.
Dodger Bulldog
11-10-06, 02:52
What will the Democrats takeover in Washington do to the US$/R$ exchange rate???
October 2002 US$1 = R$3.93
October 2006 US$1 = R$2.13
Couldn't do much worse, could it?
Source: http://www.federalreserve.gov/Releases/H10/Hist/dat00_bz.htm
DB
What will the Democrats takeover in Washington do to the US$/R$ exchange rate???
Why don't you write your congressman and tell him the price of buceta is way to high in Brasil and that they should do something about it, Im sure they'll be interested.
Trippleecks
11-10-06, 11:49
Dodger Bulldog .... It was at about the same rate 2.12R to the dollar on 3/17/01.. Things started to get worse for Brazil when Lula was running for President ....... It just took nearly 5 1/2 years for things to get back to normal..
I am in Rio now and, at my age, I rely on Viagra pretty heavliy. For this trip, however, my doctor also gave me some Cialis samples, and I tried one a couple days ago. Initial results are encouraging; however, I do not like the claim that Cialis works for "up to 36 hours". That is pretty vague. Twenty four hours after taking the cialis, I was not sure if it would still help me or not. So I popped 50mg of Viagra. This worked pretty darn well. My woody was harder than it has been in a long time. Does anyone have any advice on the risks of cialis-viagra cocktails (taking the viagra 24 hours after the cialis)? Somehow I think it is not a good idea for me to be doing this very often.
interesting Q RexG. i googled and found this at:
http://www.hisandherhealth.com/content/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=245&Itemid=301
"Cialis with its long half-life and relatively long duration of action of 36 to 100 hours appears to be the easiest, most cost effective, spontaneous, and natural of the three drugs. Two or three pills per week may be all that is necessary for function without concern for time and spontaneity.
On the other hand, having the ability to maximize nocturnal erections by using two pills per week of Cialis is extremely advantageous since it maximizes nocturnal blood flow during the three to five erections that every male gets at night, oxygenates the penis, decreases the chances of fibrosis and scarring, and in the process prevents irreversible penile damage and irreversible untreatable erectile dysfunction. As we gain experience, it is possible that the treatment of choice will be to combine Cialis with one of the shorter-acting drugs. A booster of Levitra or Viagra prior to sexual activity after taking Cialis on Tuesday and Friday may be the ideal choice for many patients who do not get an optimal response to 20 mg of Cialis every 36 hours. Lastly, if sexual activity occurs more than twice per week Cialis becomes more cost effective and becomes the drug of choice.
For those patients who have hard-to-treat erectile dysfunction, Levitra may be the drug of choice because of its relatively high potency and effectiveness in these types of patients. Many think of Levitra as a more potent Viagra, however, Levitra has a much longer duration of action and in many men a 20 mg Levitra tablet will be effective with stimulation up to 20 or 24 hours. Levitra tends to work very rapidly with 25% of the patients getting an optimal response within 16 minutes of taking the drug. Certain individuals, such as single men who cannot plan their sexual activity until the last minute, may find Levitra to be their drug of choice."
hopefully the brethren here will chime in with their experiences.
btw, there is a Viagra thread here in the Special Interests Forum.
Another BULLSHIT website Realestate SCAM...
http://www.riodejan.com/hot_properties.html
The apartments listed here are "NOT FOR SALE"......
Every photo of apartments they list, was stolen from our website....
www.ez-riorentals.com
Damn Kenn, I have already sent my $2800 deposit to Betty Miller, but not to worry I guess as she will refund it with only a $100 deduction if it doesn't go through. Congrats on your new shop in Rua Xavier da Silvera, Copa. Looks like a nice operation.
Here is some info for anybody wanting to stay longer in Brasil for 6 months. The whole system is not automated. They have know idea how long you have stayed in a year, as long as you come and go in the alotted 90 days they give you upon entering.
A friend of mine went down town to have his visa extended. They literally spent 30 minutes counting all the dates of his passport stamps. Could you imagine how long it would take a western country to know how long you have stayed in the country? they would have it in seconds. They also could not tell him if you are only allowed to stay in Brasil for 6 months of the calendar year or 6 months in any given 12 month period. Each different officer had a different take on what the law was.
Another friend of mine uses 2 different passports. He stays about 4 months in total on each pasport per year for a total of 8 months, been doing this for 4 years now.
Yet another friend of mine has a ton of stamps in his passport, and I do mean a ton of stamps. When he enters they never check how many days he has been there in the year. There are just to many stamps in his passport to go through everything. He does say he has his heart in his throat each time he enters the country, but the thoughts of his favourite bunda get him through this. He says he has a plan to be smuggled accross the border near Argentina if they ever ban him from entering, he is an interesting dude.......
I must admit I have stayed in Brasil this year past the 6 months in a calendar year. When I entered I worked out I could stay another 2 weeks this year. When I entered they never asked any questions and stamped my passport 90 days, hence that was good enough for me, I will stay a total 8 months or so this year and I am due to get a new passport next year, hence they will not have any record of how long I have been staying in Brasil.
Just food for thought, not a strategy I would push my luck on forever but........
A friend of mine went down town to have his visa extended. They literally spent 30 minutes counting all the dates of his passport stamps. Could you imagine how long it would take a western country to know how long you have stayed in the country? they would have it in seconds. They also could not tell him if you are only allowed to stay in Brasil for 6 months of the calendar year or 6 months in any given 12 month period. Each different officer had a different take on what the law was.
I have seen the official immigration papers for that issue. Maximum stay is 180 days in any given 365 days. Not for a calendar year. It does make sense this way.
El Greco
Pipe Layer99
11-21-06, 01:07
Just came back from a trip to Rio.
Ther rate at the Airport was 2.00 - don't buy from the window after you get you luggage. Instead go by the elevators and get some cab money from the security guys standing over there. They gave me R210 for $100
My hotel rate was 2.10
The rates at the ATM were 2.15
Surprise - ratee at Help was 2.20 the whole trip.
I used Help and the ATMs
DD
Surprise - ratee at Help was 2.20 the whole trip.
That is surprising... the interbank rate (for those people who trade millions on the ForEx) has hovered steadily around 2.15 BRL/USD for weeks. What gives?
Exec Talent
11-21-06, 10:04
That is surprising... the interbank rate (for those people who trade millions on the ForEx) has hovered steadily around 2.15 BRL/USD for weeks. What gives?
Depends on who you know and where you go. Some of us are getting much better than 2.20.
The Watcher
11-21-06, 16:40
Depends on who you know and where you go. Some of us are getting much better than 2.20.
I am going to Rio soon; therefore, please tell me where I can get the best rate. Thank you.
Member #4217
11-21-06, 18:08
I am in Rio now and, at my age, I rely on Viagra pretty heavliy. For this trip, however, my doctor also gave me some Cialis samples, and I tried one a couple days ago. Initial results are encouraging; however, I do not like the claim that Cialis works for "up to 36 hours". That is pretty vague. Twenty four hours after taking the cialis, I was not sure if it would still help me or not. So I popped 50mg of Viagra. This worked pretty darn well. My woody was harder than it has been in a long time. Does anyone have any advice on the risks of cialis-viagra cocktails (taking the viagra 24 hours after the cialis)? Somehow I think it is not a good idea for me to be doing this very often.I am here for a long trip, and have both in my medicine bag. Generally, I cut them both in half, and take 1/2 either when I head out late at night, or go out on the afternoon prowl.
Seems to work OK so far.
Tom
Keep that in mind and you will understand why these girls are in Copa looking for hapless tourists: because there simply is no easier way to make a lot of money for them, not by a looooooooooooooong stretch. Especially now at the beginning of tourist (by their own definition: fools) season.
EATouché, that's precisely why I have no intention to tread into Rio until May at the earliest! That plus I don't care for sweltering heat. Does the rest of Brazil experience the same extreme price hike during this season, forcing one to simply pick another country to travel in for the meantime?
Pipe Layer99
11-25-06, 19:52
Depends on who you know and where you go. Some of us are getting much better than 2.20.
If you are getting a better rate that 2.20, then perhaps you can share this intel with others making the trip instead of just tell them some are getting a much better rate. Where can they get a better rate, whom to ask for, etc... would be more helpful.
I was just there this month and posted my info a few reports below. DD
If you are getting a better rate that 2.20, then perhaps you can share this intel with others making the trip instead of just tell them some are getting a much better rate. Where can they get a better rate, whom to ask for, etc... would be more helpful.
In Copa, Help used to have a good rate.
Personally I rather change foreign currency in centro. I forgot the name. A place on Rio Branco. It's on a corner (2 stories). The name is something like "Piano"...
If you have a really large amount to change (when paying for an apto etc) there are people who can give you a "special" rate. I can't give you any contact info on this. They will send a big guy to your place with a bag filled of R$ and a big gun in his waist. :)
i've gone to a cambio in the building next door to Mabs. the guy said if i was going to exchange over $1k he would give me a higher rate. this was in sept, when the best rate i found was R2.20 for the most part all the cambios exchange at the same rate. a few will give a better rate, so shop around. also locals will get a better rate than gringos.
But if you're there, and want an awesome time with an English speaker, check out "Elektra Stocklos". I saw her last year and just had too much on the schedule to get back with her.
http://nossoforum.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=948&highlight=elektra
She's pretty, and I'm sure that finding a girl who speaks fluent English will definitely attract a solid number of Anglos who are tired of doing business with hand gestures and a dictionary.
(What I'm about to say has been discussed ad nauseam in the past, but I believe it bears repeating by anyone willing to mention it.)
However, the prices she lists on her personal web page (http://elektra-stocklos.rare-escort.com/) are pretty steep. USD$100 (R$217 as of 25 Nov 2006) for the first 60 minutes! Yowza, those are almost Lisbon prices! While not totally unreasonable (compared to the R$500/hr quotes commonly heard for starters at Help in Rio), they're definitely higher than any regular reader of this forum would agree to pay in Brazil without attempts to bring it lower. Compare that to a recent positive review on the 2006 São Paulo thread describing another lovely lady as charging R$200 (USD$92) for 90 minutes in-hotel including transport.
Just goes to show you how much of a premium is demanded by English-speaking escorts, and certainly makes me glad I'm studying Portuguese in my spare time (long way to go, however). I'm figuring that despite the time investment required for now, it'll save me enough money to pay for itself. Besides, I hear it helps the girls warm up to you that much faster (making even those girls who do not drop the price be better experiences anyway), as well as opening the window to a number of opportunities (non-pro dating and general business) closed to those who don't speak it!
My question for those who have vaster knowledge than I: Would you say that the "gringo premium" charged by girls all over the world has to do more with the impersonal nature of doing business with someone who does not know the local language, or simply a contempt for foreigners in general? That is to say, would a girl (like in Help, for instance) try to pull the R$500 quote right off the bat if she saw that you were a gringo, but at least knew very good Portuguese?
El Austriaco
11-26-06, 07:43
My question for those who have vaster knowledge than I: Would you say that the "gringo premium" charged by girls all over the world has to do more with the impersonal nature of doing business with someone who does not know the local language, or simply a contempt for foreigners in general? That is to say, would a girl (like in Help, for instance) try to pull the R$500 quote right off the bat if she saw that you were a gringo, but at least knew very good Portuguese?
I see it this way:
1) The workings of supply and demand: there are far less girls that speak fluent English, so supply drops, and prices rise. Just like with any other kind of product or service.
2) The GFE premium: I know, some mongers define GFE as including BBBJ and DFK, but I don´t know, even if I get that from a girl, I have a hard time fantasizing that she could actually be my GF if I can not speak a word in her own language to her and get to know her a little bit beyond the edge of the bed. So for linguistically-challenged mongers looking for a GFE that feel like I do, a girl speaking English is the only way to go, and I guess they are willing to pay an extra premium for that.
3) The ignorance premium: unless you speak, say, Portuguese, a girl will assume that you haven't spent a lot of time in, say, Rio, and are therefore unaware of current pricing or other options available. All of this makes you a better prospect for her in terms of overcharging you. Hey, she has nothing to lose. There might be some contempt mixed in, yes, but not to the extent of "I just hate foreigners, so I will charge them more", no. You are just a more gullible and ignorant victim, that's all.
I have never had a Help girl pull a R$ 500.00 first offer on me, but R$ 300, yes, even when I asked in plain Portuguese, and if I had gone a lot to Help in the past couple of years, I am sure I would have run into one trying to hit me up for R$ 500.00. Some of them just don't care... whatever shit sticks, they will try to throw at the wall. But I do agree that speaking only English and displaying no local knowledge whatsoever will certainly greatly increase the likelihood that they will try and fleece you, yes. It's part of their job description: P4P. If you gotta play to make a living, might as well grab as much cash as you can, right?
EA
I have never had a Help girl pull a R$ 500.00 first offer on me, but R$ 300, yes...Okay, that was admittedly a gross exaggeration on my part, but thanks very much for your in-depth input!
In October 2006 all of the Help Garotas were asking for 200 Reals but would take 100 reals.
Peace:
WSJ3
:)
If you have a really large amount to change (when paying for an apto etc) there are people who can give you a "special" rate. I can't give you any contact info on this. They will send a big guy to your place with a bag filled of R$ and a big gun in his waist. :)Hi all,
There's an illegal but working really well for those who need to transfer a large amount of cash : the "Dolero".
It's based on confidence, with no name and no id number.
You can transfer US$ 3000,00 to a bank account in Switzerland or Uruguay and 5 days later someone will ring at your door and give you the cash in R$ (with a comission fee as low as 2%).
Sperto, I know that the cambio you mentioned (Rio Branco, place before Presidente Vargas) brings this kind of service.
Meus 2 centavos.
Urcarioca.
El Austriaco
11-27-06, 03:24
Okay, that was admittedly a gross exaggeration on my part, but thanks very much for your in-depth input!
Not THAT gross, actually. I've overheard girls quoting guys R$ 500.00, for sure.
EA
Just came back from a trip to Rio.
Ther rate at the Airport was 2.00 - don't buy from the window after you get you luggage. Instead go by the elevators and get some cab money from the security guys standing over there. They gave me R210 for $100
My hotel rate was 2.10
The rates at the ATM were 2.15
Surprise - ratee at Help was 2.20 the whole trip.
I used Help and the ATMs
DDI just got back today from Sampa and Rio.
Sampa- Citibank atm was 2.15 + R6 service fee.
Hotel quoted me 1.9 (Insane)
Rio- Help 2.2 ($100 limit)
Blame it on Rio 2.2
I just got back today from Sampa and Rio.
Rio- Help 2.2 ($100 limit)
Problem is that you have to pay $22-$33R to get INTO help to just get $200R, which you spend very quickly anyway. Probably not an every day way to withdraw cash, but something good to remember once you are in there. I do think they have an ATM fee though.
i've gone to Help just to exchange dollars and didn't go in. it was not a problem. just had to do it after midnight. (had to wait for them to get Reals.) just tell the person at the window you want to exchange dollars and they'll let you into the foyer. there was no fee.
Pipe Layer99
12-01-06, 00:37
Problem is that you have to pay $22-$33R to get INTO help to just get $200R, which you spend very quickly anyway. Probably not an every day way to withdraw cash, but something good to remember once you are in there. I do think they have an ATM fee though.
I've used Help to change $ to Reals without going inside.
Just tell the guy at the window or security you want to change dollars.
Then go inside to the desk, get the rate and change the money. No problem.
Donnie D
i've gone to Help just to exchange dollars and didn't go in. it was not a problem. just had to do it after midnight. (had to wait for them to get Reals.) just tell the person at the window you want to exchange dollars and they'll let you into the foyer. there was no fee.
Very cool. I had not thought of that.. thanks guys..
I found this to be interesting and useful for those of you who do not have a Citibank account. They offer free checking and savings if you open it online and they give you an ATM card. You can put your Rio money in the account and Citibank has several branches in Copacabana, Ipanema and Barra among others.
http://direct.citibank.com/CBOL/06/esavings/thirdpartymedia/default.htm?Promo_ID=CSAB&BTData=4021179786F6174545C484AB7A5AEADA29D9D9B83FAFAFFE3FACBC4C580F51&BT_TRF=466110&BT_VEN=1546&BT_PUB=59&BT_CAT=1189&SOURCE=GOOG&KEYWORD=checking%2Bcitibank%2Bonline&ProspectID=B72DCFE912104D5AA28E75AD50F9AAC5
Another thing I found interesting recently is that Tam airlines has day flights to and from Rio. I don't particularly like flying overnight leaving 10 pm and arriving next day at 12 noon, I just feel like crap the next day after trying to sleep on the plane all night. But Tam has a flight that leaves JFK at 8 am and stops in SP for an hour and arrives in Rio 10:45 PM that same day. Just in time to make Help at 12:30 AM, who could beat this. They even have a similar one on the way back, leaves Rio 7 AM arrive JFK 3:45 PM. This is just a different way of doing it.
Trippleecks
12-07-06, 10:55
Rio Bob.. If you are staying in a Hotel I guess it’s no problem but I wonder if you are staying in an apartment if they will be available to meet you at 12:30AM - 1AM to give you the keys ?????? Just a thought.
Also the Citi Banks in Copa. and Ipanema really have nothing to do with the ones in the USA. A few friends have tried using them like going into any branch in the USA and for some reason it does not work like that in Brazil.. Same name but they actually do not work like a branch office in the USA.
Rio Bob.. If you are staying in a Hotel I guess it’s no problem but I wonder if you are staying in an apartment if they will be available to meet you at 12:30AM - 1AM to give you the keys ?????? Just a thought.
Also the Citi Banks in Copa. and Ipanema really have nothing to do with the ones in the USA. A few friends have tried using them like going into any branch in the USA and for some reason it does not work like that in Brazil.. Same name but they actually do not work like a branch office in the USA.That's very interesting. I have had a similar experience with banks in Brasil. My HSBC branch in UK advised me to open an international account in order to access funds when in Brasil. I needed it for a property deal.
Of course I am familiar with the requirements for opening a normal current account, CPF, residential status but I found this response perplexing.
Lo and behold I get to Brasil Fortaleza and they won't even let me open that. Surely not in keeping with the info on the website and the advice from my UK HSBC manager.
I think they operate under different entities somewhat although on appearance you would assume they were all part of the same organisaiton.
Are there any international banking experts that can explain.
Super Sir out
Rio Bob.. If you are staying in a Hotel I guess it’s no problem but I wonder if you are staying in an apartment if they will be available to meet you at 12:30AM - 1AM to give you the keys ?????? Just a thought..
I once took a flight of this timeframe it was Continental about 8 years ago, they don't have it anymore, I was staying in a hotel, and it worked out great. I know many guys who rent apartments but they keep the keys so for them it would be OK. It would depend how hungry or accommodating your rental agent is, I’m sure you can find someone.
Also the Citi Banks in Copa. and Ipanema really have nothing to do with the ones in the USA. A few friends have tried using them like going into any branch in the USA and for some reason it does not work like that in Brazil.. Same name but they actually do not work like a branch office in the USA.
Yeah, well the offices are on their website but I guess being a different country you wouldn't get the same services like you would at home. I only mentioned it for ATM use as I’m always afraid of coming down with just 1 ATM card and for some reason mid way through your trip you can't get cash, this would be a bummer. In recent years I have been bringing cash for my whole trip but for some reason whether it's the reports of robberies coming from the airport or not I don't feel like bringing cash on my next trip. I would feel more secure with a Citibank ATM card as backup using a Citibank ATM machine in Rio.
I am in the final stage of buying an apartment in Fortaleza.
Any availlable info/tip on the procedures, money tranfer, what to watch out will be greatly appreciated.
Although I have read some info in the past I was not able to find it again although I did some extensive search. Can someone, please, help on that too?
Thanks
El Greco
I am in the final stage of buying an apartment in Fortaleza.
Any availlable info/tip on the procedures, money tranfer, what to watch out will be greatly appreciated.
Although I have read some info in the past I was not able to find it again although I did some extensive search. Can someone, please, help on that too?
Thanks
El Greco
Get an attorney or advocate. They will help you with a few things:
1. You have to have someone check out the deed documents and other legal documents to ensure that the transfer can be a clean one to you. There are a lot of leins that can be placed against a property, and also family fights and splits can mess it it a lot. This is very important
1A. There is a sinal.. a good faith payment in cash, 5-10%..
2. The agreed amount will be paid part as the apartment fee and part as another fee, sort of under the table. The apartment fee is like 70% and it is taxed.. this is normal.
3. The funds. I transfered the under the table funds to my attorney, who paid them at the right time. Then the bulk will be sent to a holding company (like usa escrow) to give out at the closing..
Similar, but no title insurance.. your insurance is your attorney and staff..
That's very interesting. I have had a similar experience with banks in Brasil. My HSBC branch in UK advised me to open an international account in order to access funds when in Brasil. I needed it for a property deal.
Of course I am familiar with the requirements for opening a normal current account, CPF, residential status but I found this response perplexing.
Lo and behold I get to Brasil Fortaleza and they won't even let me open that. Surely not in keeping with the info on the website and the advice from my UK HSBC manager.
I think they operate under different entities somewhat although on appearance you would assume they were all part of the same organisaiton.
Are there any international banking experts that can explain.
Super Sir out
I also had a similar experience with my account. I opened specifically for Brasil an HSBC account and when in Brasil, my HSBC card would not work on HSBC machines!!! Even Banco do Brasil didn't accept them. The only machines which accepted my HSBC card was the Banco Bradesco and to make it even more convenient, of all the banks I tried, Bradesco were the only ones with an English menu which was quite practically since at the time I wasn't very familiar with the banking lingo in Portuguese.
Super Sir you're right when you say that HSBC in Brasil and the ones in Europe/North America operate under different systems and thus, one with a Euro/NA card cannot just go to any branch of HSBC in Brasil and get cash. I was also advised of that by my banker. Weird huh?
Question: To open a Bank of America account, the type that is mentioned in here with no fee when used at BOA machines, to open one, does one have to be a US citizen or can citizens of any country open one? If anyone can answer that, it would helpful.
Cheers.
FadeToJade
12-08-06, 06:24
Does anyone out there know what the extradition laws are for Brazil to the US? I have committed no crimes nor plan to, just curious. Thanks. (If this offends your sensibilities, then you need to wake up to the current state of things in the USA judicial system). Believe me, if you don't know this, the police are not your friends, and my father, whom I dearly love, was in law enforcement.
opening any type of bank or credit account in the US requires a social security number. you need to be a legal resident or citizen to get one.
in brazil, one needs a CPF number.
That's very interesting. I have had a similar experience with banks in Brasil. My HSBC branch in UK advised me to open an international account in order to access funds when in Brasil. I needed it for a property deal.This may be the case if you need the funds required for a property deal but is NOT the case for a regaular holiday trip.
I have used my UK HSBC card in a HSBC branch in Copa without any problems for the last 3 years since I got it. It is not a credit card but rather their basic ATM/Debit Card which is "Solo" but not "Switch" enabled and has the Cirrus and Maestro logos on the back. My only gripe is their GBP1.75 fee and thus I tend to use a credit card issued by another bank with the HSBC card as back-up. For credit cards I have always found Bradesco to be the most reliable and haven't encountered any problems in hundreds of withdrawals over the last 6 years or so.
i have a US Citibank account. i was looking at my statement: a monthly (i think) $4.62 fee for use of non-Citibank ATM and a foreign fee depending on amount of withdrawal. curious thing about that $4.62 charge-i used the Citibank ATM in Copa.
another difference between US and Brazil Citibank:
open US savings account with $501.00.
open Brazil savings account with R2000. problems with US Citibank account while in Brazil? you'll have to return home to resolve it. if you have problems here in the US, Citibank will direct you to the branch where the account was opened!
Actually for foreigners you do not need a social security number to open a bank account in the US. Just a passport is necessary. I have an account with Bank of America and I am not a US resident or citizen and in fact only spend a couple of weeks a year in the US.
Having said this, when you go into a branch in the US and try to open an account they will look at you like you have 2 heads. The manager had to be called in my case, but he sorted it out in a few minutes. I opened the account with US$1000, average balance is only about $10k , so it is just a normal account.
I never really thought about it until yeasterday, when making a withdrawal at Citibank they always charge R$ 6 as a convenience fee. That's 6 minutes in a cabina...
The same thing I noticed with HSBC, but not always.
When making several withdrawals/ATM on the same day at different banks I always get the best rate at Banco do Brasil and Banco Bradesco and a slightly worse rate at HSBC and Citibank
Trippleecks
12-09-06, 12:33
Chingon.... in brazil, one needs a CPF number.
Sorry WRONG.. A CPF number is not enough for a Foreigner to open a bank account in Brail.... Without permanent residency you will NOT be able to open a Bank account in Brazil..
Sorry WRONG.. A CPF number is not enough for a Foreigner to open a bank account in Brail.... Without permanent residency you will NOT be able to open a Bank account in Brazil..
If you have a CPF and no permanent residency you can still open a Conta Poupança, but propably not a Conta corrente.
Does anyone out there know what the extradition laws are for Brazil to the US? I have committed no crimes nor plan to, just curious. Thanks. (If this offends your sensibilities, then you need to wake up to the current state of things in the USA judicial system). Believe me, if you don't know this, the police are not your friends, and my father, whom I dearly love, was in law enforcement.Yes, Brasil will extradite to the US. Not on all crimes, but serious stuff. Take a look at the two pilots that hit the Brasilian jet in the corporate ERJ. They had to agree to waive extradition back to Brasil and return upon request in order to get their passports back and to be allowed to leave Brasil. I don't think extradition would take place for non-violent, low dollar crimes, because it wouldn't be worth the diplomatic headaches to go through the procedures. But murder, sexual assualt, drugs, etc. They will!
Of course I am familiar with the requirements for opening a normal current account, CPF, residential status but I found this response perplexing.
While in Rio I tried to open an account with HSBC, Citi, Bradesco and Bank of Boston. They all required a permanent visa which I don't have. So I gave up the idea.
For ATM's I am using my Greek bank cards mainly on HSBC, Banco do Brasil and Citi branches who give 1.000 reais per day.
My Greek bank charges me 4:40 euros per transaction
El Greco
opening any type of bank or credit account in the US requires a social security number. you need to be a legal resident or citizen to get one.
in brazil, one needs a CPF number.
I don't know what are the requirements now due to the "patriot act" but that was not the case before.
I opened an account in New York with only my passport and a Greek utility company monthly statement proving that I am staying abroad.
I have to fill a "W" something form, sent to me by the bank, every 2-3 years so I am not taxed in the USA.
For Brasil you need a CPF and a permanent residence visa.
El Greco
Thank you very much sir.
El Greco
If you have nothing to do check out this funny video of Arnold in Rio many years ago filmed by Playboy.
http://www.devilducky.com/media/38195/
Mr Enternational
12-11-06, 08:15
If you have a CPF and no permanent residency you can still open a Conta Poupança, but propably not a Conta corrente.You can not open any kinda of bank account in Brazil without a permanent visa. Last March, the guy at Banco do Brasil in Copacabana told me that I only needed to go to the main branch downtown and bring a Brazilian friend who has bills in their name and they can sign for me. Well I get up very early the next morning and meet my trusted friend downtown. We probably waited an hour just for the lady to tell me that it does not matter that I have a CPF, or a friend with me, but I could not open an account without permanent residency. So I have just stuck with my regular HSBC internet account that I opened in March. When I opened it I was told that there was a 1% charge for currency conversion but I have used it in many countries and haven't even seen any kind of fees charged, not even for using a non-HSBC ATM.
You can not open any kinda of bank account in Brazil without a permanent visa.
I have several friends without a permanent visa who opened bank accounts. When I got my CPF the guy at the bank offered me to open a Conta Poupanca.
Royalflush
12-14-06, 23:46
Has anyone dealt with http://www.erioapartments.com ?
Are they legit?
Thank you
I have several friends without a permanent visa who opened bank accounts. When I got my CPF the guy at the bank offered me to open a Conta Poupanca.
Do you recall which Bank?
Has anyone dealt with http://www.erioapartments.com ?
Are they legit?
Thank you
I have no idea if it is legit or not. BUT.. the prices seem low and the deposit request does not seem right. Once you select a property you pay a deposit to the seller called a sinal, which is normally about 10%.
What I do is hire a 3rd party person, not the broker, to represent YOU in the transaction, typically an attorney, who can check out the current deed and any leins on the property. It is simple to buy something, but not so simple to ensure that the title is clean and clear.
erioapartments.com is another SCAM....... every photo they have on their website came from my website www.ez-riorentals.com . They actually have the balls to advertise my 4 of my own apartments as bring for sale, which they are NOT..
I have had these assholes, under different names, shut down twice before but now I will have to do it again........
As I understand it after trying to open a bank account at 4 different banks, the things you need are:
1. CPF -- a must
2. proof of address, such as a light bill or telephone bill with your name and address on it, or even a lease in your name.
3. RNE card "registro national estrangeiros"-- foreigners regis. card, obtainable at the federal police in centro OR some banks will accept a permanent visa (resident) stamp in your passport.
the banks that accept the RNE in place of the permanent visa are Unibanco, HSBC, and Bradesco, I think. Bank of Brasil and Itau need the residency.
FWIW,
Truant
...some of the girls who open new accounts are pretty hot in these banks...
Do you recall which Bank?
Banco do Brasil, the office at Praça Nossa Senhora da Paz in Ipanema.
I asked a friend yesterday about this matter. He said they changed the rules 2004, so now you´ll need a permanent visa. I got my CPF and was offered a bank account in March 2004, propably just before they changed the rules.
3. RNE card "registro national estrangeiros"-- foreigners regis. card, obtainable at the federal police in centro OR some banks will accept a permanent visa (resident) stamp in your passport.You can't get a RNE without a regular work visa.
Banco Central do Brasil law is clear : no tourist can get a bank account in Brazil. Period.
Don't even think do the paperwork to open a bank account in Brazil before get a REGULAR visa in Brazil, and i mean NOTHING like a tourist visa.
Cheers,
U.
You can definitely get a bank account in Brasil with only a tourist visa. If you go into any branch the likely response is that they will not open an account for you because the law prohibits this, but this is only part of the story and like most things in Brasil one can get around it.
A good friend of mine who deals with a lot of well off foreigners and actually had a manager of a local bank dismissed because she refused to open an account for a foriegner. She called the head office in Sampa and spoke at length to a very high up manager. She explained how a lot of her customers were buying million dollar plus apartments in Rio and had difficulties in getting the funds into Brasil to complete the purchases. The Sampa dude agreed with her that foreigners can actually open accounts. Now, she goes into her favourite branch in Leblom with the foreigner and opens accounts for them, they love the wealthy clients............
I haven't opened an account in Brasil because I don't need one, I use my credit/debit cards and this is sufficient for me.
Bubba,
Would you mind sharing which branch of which bank in Leblon is it? I'd be interested in visiting that branch to get an account myself there!:)
Thanks.
You can definitely get a bank account in Brasil with only a tourist visa. If you go into any branch the likely response is that they will not open an account for you because the law prohibits this, but this is only part of the story and like most things in Brasil one can get around it.Sure, if you plan to open a bank account with your US$ 100K to buy a real estate.
Try to do this with US$ 1000,00 in your Leblon branch.
I do agree that "really" wealthy people all around the world can easily turn out the brazilian law. Infelizmente eu não faço parte deles.
Member #4147
12-16-06, 21:24
I live in the U.S. and I got my Brazilian visa last month. Inside my passport there was inserted a typewritten note stating that the visa must be used within 90 days. This was the first I had seen or heard of this stipulation. Is this so? I am unsure if I can go that soon now and wonder how early things get too crazy with carnival as I'd just as soon avoid crowds.
Thanks
90% Pay Raise for Brazil Congress
By Jonathan Wheatleyin São Paulo
Published: December 16 2006 02:00 | Last updated: December 16 2006 02:00
Members of Brazil's national congress have awarded themselves a 90.7 per cent pay rise, in a move that will undermine efforts to bring public spending under control.
In a closed meeting on Thursday evening, leaders of the lower house and senate agreed to increase their monthly wage from R$12,847 ($6,000) to R$24,500. The move is binding, requires no further vote in congress and will come into effect when legislators return from their year-end recess on February 1. Including expenses, staff salaries and extra payments, the minimum average monthly package for members of congress will rise to R$116,254.
The pay rise will be the last significant act of a legislature that has been marred by a series of corruption scandals involving senior ministers and close advisers to the president. One in five members of congress is under investigation by federal police or being prosecuted by the supreme court.
Brazil's president Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva has said the aim of his second four-year term, which begins on January 1, will be to "unlock" Brazil's economy and produce growth of at least 5 per cent a year - double the average over the past 15 years - although he recently said this would not be achievable in 2007.
Most economists say a prerequisite for growth will be to cut current expenditure - on pensions, salaries and other running costs of government - to release capital for investment in infrastructure and other drivers of growth.
Next week, ministers and union leaders are expected to agree an increase in the national monthly minimum wage from R$350 to about R$367, a nominal increase of 4.86 per cent, or about 1.7 per cent after inflation.
If state and municipal legislators follow the congressional pay rise as expected, the additional annual cost to taxpayers will be R$2bn.
I live in the U.S. and I got my Brazilian visa last month. Inside my passport there was inserted a typewritten note stating that the visa must be used within 90 days. This was the first I had seen or heard of this stipulation. Is this so? I am unsure if I can go that soon now and wonder how early things get too crazy with carnival as I'd just as soon avoid crowds.
ThanksYes, the 90 day entry requirement does exist. If you fail to enter Brazil within 90 days, your visa is void and you will have to reapply when you want to go. I have never heard of the 90 day period being extended. I'm surprised that you weren't aware of it. It is included in the application materials and you normally have to submit an airline ticket showing itinerary to get your visa.
As for Canrival, just stay away the 10 days before and a week after and it won't be that crazy.
Delecti
90% Pay Raise for Brazil Congress
This is precisely why the developing world will not become the developed world anytime soon. Just when people think corruption and fiscal irresponsibility have turned a corner in places like Latin America, we read this and realize that when the global economic growth party is over in 2007-2008, people better hold on to their hats...if people think the US is in for a period of slower growth or recession...you aint seen nothin yet given what will happen in places like Brazil...especially with sh*t like this going on!
The Watcher
12-19-06, 19:13
What is the difference between the ISG and WSG? They appear to have the same format.
Speaking of visas: How long is the turnaround time if you mail it in on average? I've got a flight in January and I'm hoping to avoid a crunch in time.
Exec Talent
12-19-06, 23:44
What is the difference between the ISG and WSG? They appear to have the same format.
For the most part, posters here respect women. Many of us who regularly post here no longer post on WSG because of frequent disparaging comments made about women by a small group of posters. Based upon the moderator's failure to deal with this issue, it was assumed that he endorses or at least condones these posters attitude toward women.
C,
I have always used TraVisa in San Fran, Ca. and they usually get it done in a week, 10 days at the most. Of course it all depends on the Brazilians and how much of a request load they are working on....
I always used FedEx for mailing....
Hope this helps,
Hammer
Speaking of visas: How long is the turnaround time if you mail it in on average? I've got a flight in January and I'm hoping to avoid a crunch in time.
It depends on the consulate. Los Angeles does not accept direct mail in, but you can use an agency. Then I think it was like a week for my son's visa.
Thanks for you guys advice.
I contacted Travisa and I'm not anticipating any delays.
Thanks,
Cappadona
Does anyone have a good suggestion about islands to visit in proximity to Rio??? Other than Buzzios would be great, but will consider flying to destination. Thanks!!!
El Austriaco
12-21-06, 19:07
Does anyone have a good suggestion about islands to visit in proximity to Rio??? Other than Buzzios would be great, but will consider flying to destination. Thanks!!!
How about Angra dos Reis? I personally liked it better than Búzios, and it is relatively easy to reach in three hours from Rio. If you want, you can even explore it on a day trip and be back in Rio by nightfall.
http://www.angra-dos-reis.com/ingles/index.htm
A few pix included, to give you an idea.
EA
I'm an American living in the Dominican Republic. (See my posts in that forum if you like...) And I'm just now planning a trip to Rio for Carnival.
Questions you might help me with:
1. Tourist Visa. Do I need one? Do I need to go to the American embassy in the DR to get one? I had planned to buy my plane tickets online, so I dont think I could get the visa that way. Is it like the DR, where you simply fill out a form on the airplane and get the visa at customs?
2. Hotel recommendations? Do Brazilian hotels (like Dominican hotels) frown on bringing guests back to your room?
Thanks in advance!
Marzo
Pipe Layer99
12-22-06, 08:22
I'm an American living in the Dominican Republic. (See my posts in that forum if you like...) And I'm just now planning a trip to Rio for Carnival.
Questions you might help me with:
1. Tourist Visa. Do I need one? Do I need to go to the American embassy in the DR to get one? I had planned to buy my plane tickets online, so I dont think I could get the visa that way. Is it like the DR, where you simply fill out a form on the airplane and get the visa at customs?
2. Hotel recommendations? Do Brazilian hotels (like Dominican hotels) frown on bringing guests back to your room?
Thanks in advance!
Marzo
You definately need a visa to visit Brazil. Do a search on Visa requirements (for Americans) for Brazil and then be sure to complete all actions. Then you will most likely have to mail your applicantion to a Brazilian consulate to get it approved. Check the visa web site to avoid hick-ups.
As for hotels in Rio - some hotels are guest friendly, some charge a small fee, and the others defionately frown upon it.
I read on this forum Hotel Atlantico is good. Ibiza is good (i stayed there before) and Rio Roiss is OK. Ask before you make your reservation.
Alternatively, book a room, then go find an apt on your 2nd day.
Read some of the forum - most of the info is posted here.
DD
El Austriaco
12-22-06, 09:35
1. Tourist Visa. Do I need one? Do I need to go to the American embassy in the DR to get one? I had planned to buy my plane tickets online, so I dont think I could get the visa that way. Is it like the DR, where you simply fill out a form on the airplane and get the visa at customs?
No, for an American, it is NOT like the DR in that you get (and pay) your visa at the airport. You definitely have to get it in advance. You won't even be able to board the plane unless you can show that you have a visa to enter Brazil. You have to get it in advance from the Brazilian consulate or embassy. Check with the Brazilian embassy in Santo Domingo for instructions.
2. Hotel recommendations? Do Brazilian hotels (like Dominican hotels) frown on bringing guests back to your room?
Personally, I don't think that most Dominican hotels frown on bringing guests back to your room, but anyhow. Based on personal experience in Rio, I'd say the following: the more upscale (read, expensive) the hotel, the more likely they will prohibit guests outright or greatly discourage you from doing so. Just like, say, the Hamaca in Boca Chica is not girl-friendly. There are definitely hotels in Rio (one I can speak about from personal experience, for example, the Savoy Othon) that won't allow you to take guests to your room at all. Others will charge you a (more or less) small fee for additional guests, some no fee at all, and it's basically OK (meaning unless you bring loud, obnoxious, drunk girls obviously dressed like hookers, of course). It differs from hotel to hotel.
If you do bring girls, a low-key approach is always advised, and rubbing it into everyone's face what you are doing, especially other guests, is never a good idea. This doesn't mean that you have to be ultrasecretive when you inquire about it: they all know what's going on. So I suggest you simply ask the (usually male) general manager outright when making a booking over the phone (is it OK if I bring girls with me? If yes, how much extra?) or inquire by email in a more indirect manner (please advise whether your facility is girl-friendly and whether there will be extra charges for additional occupants). They know perfectly well what you wanna know, because they have seen and heard it a thousand times. That way, you will know first-hand.
Even better, though: limit your P4P to the termas (with onsite facilities), and whenever you pick up freelancers, go to the love motels. You don't have to worry about whether your hotel is girl-friendly or not, you don't have to worry about girls robbing you, drugging you, making a scene at your hotel. Sure has its advantages and is a very small price to pay for peace of mind, IMHO. Rasonably priced love motels are conveniently located all over Copacabana.
Hope this helps,
EA
Trippleecks
12-22-06, 11:35
Marzo... I understand that your time is much more valuable than any other person on this board.
However, every question you asked has been answered over and over and over again. Why don't yopu just read the info. on the board and stop waisting the other members time......???????
Thanks for the help guys!
And Nodd N, I owe you twenty seconds. (No wait, if you read this, that makes it 25).
Zidaho,
Buzios is a good option and fairly close to Rio as well. An even better one, if you have the time and means, would be to fly to the paradisiacal island of Fernando de Noronha, about an hour flight from Recife in Pernambuco. It is truly a paradise there. And if you do consider going to Fernando de Noronha, do bring your own girl as it's next to impossible to get anything there. Fernando de Noronha is a special place, so bring a girl that's real special and the rewards will be astronomical. ;)
Have fun.
Dear readers,
Can anyone give information on places for those who seek bunda/big butt women?
Thank you
Dear friends,
can anyone give information about a place called 4x4?
I do not know if it is a club or brothel.
Thank you
Dear friends,
can anyone give information about a place called 4x4?
I do not know if it is a club or brothel.
Thank you4x4 is a termas in downtown or centro Rio. Most taxi drivers will be able to help you find. Termas in general are a beautiful thing and 4x4 is one of my favorites.
Dear friends,
can anyone give information about a place called 4x4?
I do not know if it is a club or brothel.
Thank you
4x4 is the largest therma in Rio.It`s located in centro,metro station:Uruguayana. The name of the street is buenos aires.
What is the difference between the ISG and WSG? They appear to have the same format.
I am actually shocked to see that there is another site called the WSG because I thought this site used to be called that. I seem to remember that the name of this site changed a while back from world sex guide, I don't know why but it did and now that there is another site with that name?
I guess it was about 10 years ago when I first discovered WSG and now all those posts are on the WSG archives. They were interesting and informative after my absence from Rio for ten years, I learned a few things like Help was a hot spot because I remember Help just being a regular club .
I am actually shocked to see that there is another site called the WSG because I thought this site used to be called that. I seem to remember that the name of this site changed a while back from world sex guide, I don't know why but it did and now that there is another site with that name?
It was called WSG. 2 or 3 years ago, the adminstrator was sued (or something) and the site was closed for several months. (I think its extension was .org or .net. The other WSG is .com.) It came back as ISG.
There are other English language guides to P4P sex. One is World Sex Archives. It is a pay site. Another is Travel and the Single Male (tsmtravel.com) it is also a pay site. There are also non-english forums. I sometimes browse a Brazilian one (when I can remember its name).
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