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Admin
01-01-07, 02:00
Thread Starter.

Noguera
01-03-07, 01:20
I realize this is the wrong thread, but Zidaho ... I have sent you a couple of PM's regarding the Colombia photo thread, and not heard back. Would you be so kind as to get back to me via PM or my e-mail address.

Thanks in advance.

Off Road
01-03-07, 11:32
It was called WSG. 2 or 3 years ago, the adminstrator was sued (or something) and the site was closed for several months. (I think its extension was .org or .net. The other WSG is .com.) It came back as ISG.

There are other English language guides to P4P sex. One is World Sex Archives. It is a pay site. Another is Travel and the Single Male (tsmtravel.com) it is also a pay site. There are also non-english forums. I sometimes browse a Brazilian one (when I can remember its name).
WSG is alive and well. However the guys on the Rio thread there are so negative on women that it is not worth reading any more. ISG rocks..

George90
01-03-07, 15:55
I remembered the name of the Brazilian site. It is Hotside dot com dot br. It is in Portuguese. So if you can read some Portuguese, you can get local reviews of some of the GDPs we discuss here.

Sui Generis
01-03-07, 22:35
Fórum SexDicas
http://www.forumsd.com.br/phpBB/index.php

GPsportClub
http://www.gpsportclub.com/forum/

Fórum GPBR.NET
http://www.gpbr.net/forum/index.php

Nossofórum.com
http://www.nossoforum.com/phpBB2/index.php

Privesp
http://www.privesp.com.br/

Scotch
01-04-07, 13:01
Drug costs imperil Brazil AIDS fight
Boston Globe Wed, 03 Jan 2007 0:46 AM PST
RIO DE JANEIRO -- A decade after Brazil became the first developing country to guarantee free AIDS treatment to every citizen, the spiraling cost of new drugs is threatening to bankrupt the highly effective program.

Exec Talent
01-05-07, 12:51
I have heard that the reason many of the girls leave the termas in Brazil for Europe is that they fail the health exam. Does anyone know if they have to take health exams in Europe too?

George90
01-05-07, 14:24
I have heard that the reason many of the girls leave the termas in Brazil for Europe is that they fail the health exam. Does anyone know if they have to take health exams in Europe too?

In countries where prostitution is legal and regulated, like the Netherlands, the girls have to take health exams.

But I think you are wrong about the reason why GDPs go to work in Europe. THEY GO FOR THE MONEY!!!!!!! They can earn more in Europe than in Brazil, so they go to work for a while and save up their money.

I visited Europe several years ago and found that the strip clubs I went to all had foreign women in them (Africans, Asians, Latinas), and VERY few locals.

Trelele
01-06-07, 01:02
I have heard that the reason many of the girls leave the termas in Brazil for Europe is that they fail the health exam. Does anyone know if they have to take health exams in Europe too?Fellow Exec Talent,

Where did you hear this kind of information? It's such a strange point of view. Money is the MAIN reason. I think so.

I believe that the danger is among girls who are used to stay at Help/MP and Balcony. Take a look at Lebara. Once she was a 'Monte Carlo queen' but unfortunately problems happened to her and she kept goin' to MP after this.

Kid Cisco
01-06-07, 09:15
In countries where prostitution is legal and regulated, like the Netherlands, the girls have to take health exams.

But I think you are wrong about the reason why GDPs go to work in Europe. THEY GO FOR THE MONEY! They can earn more in Europe than in Brazil, so they go to work for a while and save up their money.

I visited Europe several years ago and found that the strip clubs I went to all had foreign women in them (Africans, Asians, Latinas), and VERY few locals. George90 and the other guys that made comments you all have made good points George90 they do go to Europe for the $$$$ some because they can no longer work in Rio termas.

Well let me add this I to spent many years living in Europe places like (Germany, France, Itlay, ) and also to the Netherlands when I was in the Navy I still go there a lot.

There is a HUGE demand for Brazilian and Colombian women to work in the nightclubs and bars all over Europe, (selling over price high price drinks to the guys) these bars are set up like Franks and barbellara's in Rio some of these places have rooms up stairs over the clubs and some you have to pay a bar fine to take the girls out.

BUT, when a termas girl FAILED her health test were do you think she will go and work? After all she has to take care of her kids and families some go and work at places like Club help or Mia P. Or in front of club help etc.

And yes there are some that once the word gets out of their failed termas test they are off to either Europe or you can see them on the escorts sites in FLA or in the NYC.

Don't get it twisted I am NOT saying that EVERY girl that you see in Europe from Brazil or Colombia have failed a terma or massage parlor test BUT there are some that have I know a few girls that use to work in the termas that use to do mostly anal and hardcore x-rated DVD's in Rio unprotective to make extra $$$ BUT now they live and moved to Europe to work.

Kid Cisco

Java Man
01-06-07, 18:25
What ever happened to Lebara? I have not seen her at MP, Help, nor on hooker beach for some time. (I'm in Rio almost every 3 months.) Anyone know? And yes, I'm aware of the rumor about her.

Lorenzo
01-06-07, 22:13
And yes, I'm aware of the rumor about her.
What is the rumor?

The Corn Hole
01-06-07, 23:10
She did bareback anal with Darrin james around the time he caught HIV. It is believed that she cannot get employed at any Termas because she contracted it from him. Somebody on WSG posted that he hung out with her when she was working in Spain. So there might be some truth in what Exec Talent stated. I would imagine though there are probably very very few instances of T girls working in Europe because they flunked their exam.

Maybe Lebara perpetuated those rumors.

Carlos Primeros
01-06-07, 23:20
Gentlemen,

what you claim here - that girls which fail the HIV tests - go to Europe to work - is utter nonsens. In countries like Germany, Austria, Netherlands etc. the hookers have to have a test every month! That is law!

Do you really think that a club in EU would risk to have a girl working without a test and been closed then after somebody got HIV????

Why does Western Europe has so few HIV cases??? Because of controll, education and protected sex.

These are my 2 centavos.

Carlos Primeros

Kid Cisco
01-07-07, 00:44
Gentlemen,

what you claim here - that girls which fail the HIV tests - go to Europe to work - is utter nonsens. In countries like Germany, Austria, Netherlands etc. the hookers have to have a test every month! That is law!

Do you really think that a club in EU would risk to have a girl working without a test and been closed then after somebody got HIV?

Why does Western Europe has so few HIV cases? Because of controll, education and protected sex.

These are my 2 centavos.

Carlos PrimerosI want to clear something up here yes western europe does a very good job with their education and tested, of girls that work in the brothels! And the massage parlors.

I will add this nevada also does a great job in testing the women that work in their brothels too but how about the streetwalkers around the corners? Or the ones that work in the bars? Stripclubs etc?

Thats the point I was making and maybe exec talant was making the women that leave Rio I feel does it mostly because they can make more $$$ overseas but there are many that once they fail their test in the termas they need $$ to pay for their kids food and to support their families etc.

These are the type of girls that will find work overseas working the bars were they get a cut from the bar owners for selling over price drinks to guys and once they leave with the guy the owners could careless what they do or what she has or don't have he care about selling drinks and making $$$$.

Corn hole I wasn't going to bring up lebara because I don't know for sure if its the truth or not but I know she is now living overseas hanging out with dj.

Lebara, I wish her well she is a cool person I 1st met her in 2002 at a world cup party after brazil won I since seen her from time to time and ask her what termas she works she said I don't work them anymore who really knows why? But she has done many bareback anals on many dvd x-rated movies.

Kid Cisco

Kid Cisco
01-07-07, 01:02
Guys,

I would like to also add this the crackhead streetwalkers you see here in the USA or in Rio, are you lower level types but the ones I have seen all over spain are on a different level I am talking in the 8's and 9's level these girls aren't tested for anything! You will find girls working in sections along the streets from brazil and other places they aren't tested for anything either.

But, if they want to work in the red-light "goverment" tested area they will have to take and pass a health test, this is the whole point I am making.

I spent many years living all over europe and their views on "working girls" and legal brothels are a lot different from ours they feel with the girls working in the legal brothels they can indeed control the pimps and other health issues.

But, once a girl fail their test they aren't going to crawl in a hole and disapear, they have bills to pay and people to support they will find work somewhere.

This is another reason one should be careful with the girls in club help and mia p. And vm who is going to test them? And the ones that fail their test in the termas still have to support their kids where do you think they will work? If not club help its overseas or check your local stripclubs in fla or nyc or your escort sites who test them?

Kid Cisco

Trelele
01-08-07, 00:07
Kid Cisco,

so Lebara is living in Europe working as a dj ?

What a smart woman !

Kid Cisco
01-08-07, 06:54
Kid Cisco,

so Lebara is living in Europe working as a dj ?

What a smart woman !Trelele,

LOL don't know if she is a dj or not but when I said DJ its short for (Darean James) one of the actor she did anal's x-rated DVD's with.

Being a dj in some of those wild clubs in Europe isn't a bad ideal but knowing Lebara and how she loves her $$$ I don't think it will pay the type of money she is use to getting, this girl when she was in Rio would work 24/7!

I seen her working termas in the afternoons and working the beach at times working outside of club help inside of club help doing x-rated movies for extra cash running a few websites etc. Etc. She loves her money!

With all that said, she is the most down to earth person I have ever met in my life she is just cool as hell and I wish her well she always have time to kick it when I would be in Rio.

The funny thing is I never had her for some reason she never turn me on in a sex type of way her butt was nice but I am a total package kind of person and her face never did it for me, maybe that why I me and her got along so well she knew I didn't want to "phuck" her and she was cool with that she would bring me over her girlfriends to do and I would kick her some cash back.

Kid Cisco

Scotch
01-08-07, 15:00
She just did a video for hiphop girls of brazil 3. I watch it there is no sex just nude sences. I met her in 2003 at help dam that ass look nice, but she was already taken. BTW got her MC e-mail and it still worked last year ; she was giong to set a photo shoot for me it never happen. Well be safe and there are so many girls in Rio just as fine and any finner than her, so stap on be safe and enjoy.

Java Man
01-08-07, 18:15
Scotch:

I believe this is the DVD you were referring too.
They have her age as 19?! Do you have this DVD? Can you tell if it was recently made?

BTW, Lebara is in Vol 1

Careful when clicking the link, loud obnoxious music plays:
http://www.hiphopbadgirls.com/photogallery.php

Scotch
01-08-07, 19:49
Yes you are right its Vol. 1 my mistake ; I Just go it 2 weeks ago. The date on case is 2002, but is hot if you like soft porn.

Trelele
01-09-07, 01:46
LOL. Kid Cisco. My mistake. LOL

Thanks!

So my friend if she's still hanging out with Darren James (the famous dj. ;.)) I wish them good luck. And health.

Java Man
01-09-07, 04:48
Can anyone in Rio verify if 'the Office," the sports bar behind Help, is showing the NFL Playoffs.

Sui Generis
01-09-07, 16:10
Here's an update of unreliable sites in Brazil.


www.acompanhantespv.com/
www.acompanhantesonline.com
www.acompanhantesrelax.com
www.asbelissimas.com
http://www.asdeliciosas.com/
http://www.asdeliciosas.com/home.htm
www.asprimas.com.br
www.assapecas.com
www.belasproibidas.com.br
www.belasvip.com
www.belissima.clic3.net/
www.braziliansexy.com/frame-girls.html
http://cama.blig.ig.com.br/
http://www.ciadasgatinhas.net/home.htm
www.Ciadoprazer.com
www.ciaintima.com
http://classificados.blig.ig.com.br
www.cochicho.com.br
http://www.corpuss.com.br
www.deliciosasonline.com
www.desejos.net
www.desejosadultos.soelas.com.br/home.htm
http://eliterj.com/principal.htm
www.encontrosproibidos.com.br/
www.frenesy.com.br
www.gatasdecampinas.com
www.gatinhasacompanhantes.com/
www.gatinhasbrasil.com
www.garotasacompanhantes.hpgvip.ig.com....antes.html
www.garotastv.com
www.Gatadelivery.com
www.gpsp.com.br
www.hotbrazil.com
www.insensato.com.br
http://www.mariasemvergonha.net/
http://www.masterbook.com.br
www.megasex.com.br
www.megasexy.com.br
http://www.meianove.com.br/
www.musasproibidas.com.br
http://perfeicaosp.blig.ig.com.br/
www.prazerescasuais.com
http://www.prazeradois.com
www.pulacerca.com
http://www.riovipgirls.com
http://sandyamaral.nafoto.net/
www.soelas.com.br
www.sofazao.com.br
www.sogatinhas.com.br
www.soprazer.net
www.sopravoce.com.br
www.sperotico.com.br
www.todaboa.com
www.vitrinebook.net/
www.worldsex.com.br/

Sui Generis
01-09-07, 16:18
Can anyone in Rio verify if 'the Office," the sports bar behind Help, is showing the NFL Playoffs.


I never had problems watching a NFL football game (regular season) in Brazil.

So, I guess you will be able to see it at The Office


The Office:
92ª Rua Ares Saldanha, Copacabana


For those in Sampa, there is always O 'Malleys.

Java Man
01-09-07, 18:15
SG
Thank you for the reply.
But your response begs a question, since you're guessing about The Office.
Where have you seen NFL Football while in Brazil, specifically in Rio?
Thanks again.

Sui Generis
01-09-07, 18:35
I've seen it on TV, in my hotel room (in São Paulo).

The last time I was there (November 2006), I watched a Sunday afternoon game between Minnesota and Green Bay.

It's kind of funny to hear a match description in Portuguese! It was not as memorable as when Howard Cosell was on Monday Night Football, but it was something special....

For those in São Paulo there is always O'Malleys

Alameda Itu, 1529
Jardim Paulista
Tel: (11) 3086-0780

I don't go to Rio anymore. The last time I was there was in 1986. You're right, I'm not sure about The Office. But from what I know of transmission of sport events in Brazil you can almost see everything in Rio or São Paulo.

I said almost everyhting, because I've tried to watch a CFL (Canadian Football League) for the Eastern division championship between Montreal and Toronto, but to no avail. I'm an Alouettes fan (since the time that Marv Levy was their coach!)


Good luck and have fun

Off Road
01-09-07, 21:32
for those of you technically inclined.. i have a slingbox at my house in california that broadcasts whatever i want over the internet. here in rio i have a high speed link to my laptop that is then connected to the tv. this means i am able to watch everything here if i want. i also have a tivo in california that will record anything for later playback here in rio. i have a tivo here but is limited in use as there is no program data for brazil on the tivo, but i can record manually.

if anyone interested in how all is connected pm me as well as the costs.

The Watcher
01-10-07, 02:21
SG
Where have you seen NFL Football while in Brazil, specifically in Rio?


I have seen NFL games in Rio in various hotel bars - most recently, the Marriott. I have also seen games in my hotel room on ESPN.

Although I have not seen a NFL game at The Office, I have many friends who have.

Pipe Layer99
01-10-07, 10:54
I was in Rio in Nov and I saw 2 games at the office.
One was Da Bears vs. the Giants. My team - Da Bears won.
So I don't think it will be a problem to see American Football in Rio.

Have fun.
Oh, and take some pics of the sweet looking bundna working at the office.

Donnie

Exec Talent
01-12-07, 09:24
Although I am certain it has been going on for years, with the exchange rate being what it is, I have noticed a number of girls following a certain pattern. The girls are getting in buff shape (even hiring personal trainers and getting liposuction), getting their teeth fixed (including braces) taking foreign language courses and then it is off to Europe to find the men of their dreams (as in sucker with money). So instead of waiting for the guys to come to Brazil, now the girls are going to where the guys are. This works out great for the girls since they can get married in another country and when they visit Brazil make some extra money working in a termas there.

It all starts with a few success stories and mushrooms. So much so that if you are tapped into GDP.NET it is becoming a common story. So, for you European guys you might want to not only keep your guard up when meeting these girls but also should you decided to get involved, accompany her on her trips to Brazil.

Java Man
01-12-07, 19:53
Those are the smart ones. Save a lil Reals, get passport and go to Europe. Unlike US, no visa required for Brazilians to go to EU. GDP are also being recruited to go work in EU.

Infamous1
01-17-07, 04:22
Everybody keeps talking about 4x4, Luomo, Monte Carlo, and Centaurus. The the problem is I cant find an exact address or location where these places are. Everyone talks about being there, but now how to find it or where it is. Please help. I'll be staying in Copacabana on Rua Santa Clara, so I'm not too sure how far these places are according to my apartment. Any information on how to get to these places is extremely helpful.

Pipe Layer99
01-17-07, 06:06
Everybody keeps talking about 4x4, Luomo, Monte Carlo, and Centaurus. The the problem is I cant find an exact address or location where these places are. Everyone talks about being there, but now how to find it or where it is. Please help. I'll be staying in Copacabana on Rua Santa Clara, so I'm not too sure how far these places are according to my apartment. Any information on how to get to these places is extremely helpful.


You definately have some work cut out for you before your trip. I'll be nice and lead you to the water. Now do your damn homework. I read all the important stuff on this forum before my first trip and then read it again just prior to departure. Oh yeah there is another thing called Google.

Enough of being a smart ass.
Read Bubba Boys Brazil Guide. It has everything you need to know.
To answer your particular questions see sections 2 and 6.
Its obvious you haven't dug deep enough into this forum. You also want to pay attention to do's and don'ts, safety, food, etc. Everything for you to have a safe and enjoyable trip is in the guide. I even took notes on important items so I wouldn't forget.

Take your own comdoms and have a safe trip. DD

Mangera
01-17-07, 13:48
Read Bubba Boys Guide sir, its all there, well, almost all there.

Exec Talent
01-17-07, 13:51
Read Bubba Boys Guide sir, its all there, well, almost all there.

Or you could always pay a "guide" $300 to take you to a termas and read the pricing card to you.

Master Yoda
01-17-07, 13:53
quick question. what the hell is a "patricinhas", what do they look like and whats so special about them? I hear brazilians and gringos go on and on and on about them.

Mr Enternational
01-17-07, 16:07
Or you could always pay a "guide" $300 to take you to a termas and read the pricing card to you.Damn $300 and damn Bubba. Just go down to Meia Pataca and meet some guys there. Surely some of them already have plans to go and you can just tag along. I usually meet guys there and they tag along with me to VM.

That would be your cheapest way. Me, I would probably get Bubba's just to have something tangible handy or for my reference library. And as far as a guide, when I was a newbie I used to give $30, and that is when it was almost 4 to 1 with the dollar.

Ardgneas
01-17-07, 16:51
quick question. what the hell is a "Patricinhas", what do they look like and whats so special about them? I hear brazilians and gringos go on and on and on about them.A "patricinha" is an upper class Carioca girl typically in her late teens/early 20s, usually quite pretty and/or at least very well turned out. Think the type of pretty girl, light morena and perfectly coiffeured/manicured etc, who walks down the street in Ianema and Leblon with her nose in the air and doesn't deign to glance in your direction. "Sem frescuras" is not a phrase you'd associate with them.

Pretty vacuous, self obsessed and generally only interested in socialising with their own set. Not the brightest but well connected as they all go to the "right", select schools and University. As a gringo you will be viewed as just above cockroaches on the evolutionary scale along with the lower class Brazilians that serve them particularly if you're black as overt racism isn't uncommon in their circles. Lots of work to date as they have been waited hand and foot all their lives and have no real concept of the the value of money.

IIRC the male counterparts are called "mauricinhos". Not sure what the US equivalent would be, probably something along the lines of Jewish-American Princesses or trust fund kids. (not that I'm attributing the same characteristics to these groups).

Of course like every stereotype there are exceptions but they rare enough IME.

ButtLover
01-17-07, 17:08
Everybody keeps talking about 4x4, Luomo, Monte Carlo, and Centaurus. The the problem is I cant find an exact address or location where these places are. Everyone talks about being there, but now how to find it or where it is. Please help. I'll be staying in Copacabana on Rua Santa Clara, so I'm not too sure how far these places are according to my apartment. Any information on how to get to these places is extremely helpful.

Hello !
4x4 (Centro) adress:Rua Buenos Aires 44 (se map)
Monte Carlo (Copacabana) adress: Rua Hilario de Gouveia 17 (se map)
Luomo (Copacabana) adress: rua Siqueira Campos 143 (hard to find!)
Centaurus (Ipanema) adress: Rua Canning 44


BL

DFWdude
01-17-07, 19:22
Planning my next Rio trip soon (May) and this tiem I hope to utilize the metro to save some R$$$$. When stop do I get off on for 4x4 in down town? And how to I walk to 4x4 from there? I have taken cabs many times.

Mangera
01-17-07, 20:51
Uruguaina( mispelled the ending of this word ) Stop, then go up the stairs until you are facing the street. start walking to the right for about a block and a half till Buenos Aires, then make a left, and go three blocks down, it will be on the lefthand side of the street. My advice to you is that if you leave the termas after 8pm, take a taxi. do not walk in the Centro area during evenning hours. Have fun!

Kcrl01
01-17-07, 21:14
Centro termas

All you can eat from R$25,00 and up!

Master Yoda
01-17-07, 21:29
A "patricinha" is an upper class Carioca girl typically in her late teens/early 20s, usually quite pretty and/or at least very well turned out. Think the type of pretty girl, light morena and perfectly coiffeured/manicured etc, who walks down the street in Ianema and Leblon with her nose in the air and doesn't deign to glance in your direction. "Sem frescuras" is not a phrase you'd associate with them.

Pretty vacuous, self obsessed and generally only interested in socialising with their own set. Not the brightest but well connected as they all go to the "right", select schools and University. As a gringo you will be viewed as just above cockroaches on the evolutionary scale along with the lower class Brazilians that serve them particularly if you're black as overt racism isn't uncommon in their circles. Lots of work to date as they have been waited hand and foot all their lives and have no real concept of the the value of money.

IIRC the male counterparts are called "mauricinhos". Not sure what the US equivalent would be, probably something along the lines of Jewish-American Princesses or trust fund kids. (not that I'm attributing the same characteristics to these groups).

Of course like every stereotype there are exceptions but they rare enough IME. I understand, basically not worth wasting your time over. Are all light morenas like this?

Bubba Boy
01-17-07, 22:38
Not all light skinned morena are like this, most light skinned morenas are your average Brazilians IE quite poor. Generally speaking your average patricinha is white skinned.

The irony of this is your average upper class Brazilian would be considered middle class *at best* in your average western country. This is not including the rich Brazilians which tend to make up a tiny fraction of the population, maybe a few thousand families.

Vwhite
01-18-07, 00:55
Any cab in Rio will take you to 4x4 for free we found that out our last trip in Nov and returning in May. Just tell the cabbie to come inside and get his fare.

Vwhite
01-18-07, 00:57
Planning my next Rio trip soon (May) and this tiem I hope to utilize the metro to save some R$$$$. When stop do I get off on for 4x4 in down town? And how to I walk to 4x4 from there? I have taken cabs many times.Any taxi in Rio will take you to 4x4 for free I found that out in Nov just tell
them to come inside and get the fare for the ride but most of them make you
pay the fare. Try it

Ardgneas
01-18-07, 01:12
I understand, basically not worth wasting your time over.Worth wasting your time over purely from a looks perspective but you will be wasting your time, so you're right.


Are all light morenas like this?No not at all e.g. I recall ending up drinking with some poor people from a favela one Sunday morning after the Feira in São Cristovão. Most were stereotypical nordestinos but in their midst was a gorgeous light morena who wouldn't have looked out place in Ipanema although maybe a bit slight. It's the details that give it away clothes, nails, hair which is why I mentioned the manicure although it's still not an exact science.

Ardgneas
01-18-07, 01:21
Not all light skinned morena are like this, most light skinned morenas are your average Brazilians IE quite poor. Generally speaking your average patricinha is white skinned. I'm Irish so that's not white skinned by our standards. ;) Shall we agree that they have a nice golden tan?


The irony of this is your average upper class Brazilian would be considered middle class *at best* in your average western country. This is not including the rich Brazilians which tend to make up a tiny fraction of the population, maybe a few thousand families.I don't know, there are some seriously wealthy families in Rio and it's not that big a set. Also whilst middle class families may not have the $$$ in absolute terms that people have in Western countries they have a lifestyle e.g. maids, eating out etc. that IMO exceeds it.

Pipe Layer99
01-18-07, 20:37
Any cab in Rio will take you to 4x4 for free we found that out our last trip in Nov and returning in May. Just tell the cabbie to come inside and get his fare.


Free cab ride to Centro - not true.

A cab ride to centro is about R22-25 (from Copa). It is not free and will not be covered by the 4x4. I also heard that 'Rumor" when I was there in Nov. I asked a few cabbies and they said no. Now one cabbie did tell me he can take me to Monte Carlo and they (MC) will pay him. But thats just a R5 cab ride.

Also when I went to 4x4 I asked the Asian girl at the front desk about it, she said they do not pay for cab rides. End of story.


If anyone wants to save money just get the metra. Its easy to use and you get to see more locals. Maybe even get a number from a hottie. Back in Nov, I talked to a really nice girl for about 15 minutes on the metra. When my stop was coming up I asked if I can call her so we can go get a coffee or have a drink together. She told me she had a boyfriend. I asked her if he treated her good, she said yes. So I gave up. Nice girl. At my stop, I gave her two kisses and left.


This discussion reminds me -
In November, I actually took the metra there and back once.
Last train back is around 11pm (I think).
Although, I felt safe going home at night. I would not recommend you try it.
I felt safe because I'm from Chicago (in the city not a suburb) and I feel I can handle myself well. But l thought about it the next day and it was a risky idea. I just wanted to do it. Maybe to prove something to myself.
Anyway, having done it once - that was enough.
Now being smart about it, for the 2nd trip to Centro, I took the metra there and got a cab home. Why take an unnecessary risk!?!

I do believe going there in daylight is OK, but I would take a cab home at night for safety reasons. Even if you go in a group.


Good luck, have fun, and stay safe. Donnie

Bubba Boy
01-18-07, 21:19
I always feel very safe walking from 4x4 to the Metro at any time. I would not recommend walking many blocks away from this direction to either side, but from 4x4 to the metro it is safe up to the last train. Once on the metro I have always felt safe, much safer than buses or even a taxi. They do have cameras at the stations so I guess that helps.

Why do I prefer the metro over a taxi? If you have an accident in a taxi, and the way everybody drivers there is a good chance it will happen one day, you will die. The cars they use have no seat belts, no side impact bars, and are small and hence would open up like a tin can if hit. If you survived the accident you would not get the same medical care as in the west. The ambulance would be lucky to arrive in 30 minutes.

Ardgneas
01-18-07, 22:17
I always feel very safe walking from 4x4 to the Metro at any time. I would not recommend walking many blocks away from this direction to either side, but from 4x4 to the metro it is safe up to the last train. Once on the metro I have always felt safe, much safer than buses or even a taxi. They do have cameras at the stations so I guess that helps.I agree, I feel as safe on the Rio metrô as on the London tube. The principal drawback is that it is easy to get lose your bearings in the side streets on the way to 4x4 so bring a map. For a group of guys going to 4x4 the savings may not be worth the hassle. The main reason I use it over cabs is to avoid the rush hour traffic.

Rosine
01-19-07, 17:35
I have a buddy who is organizing a bachelor party in Rio.. I know, it's a can't miss no matter what, but one thing I would like to get right is the accommodations. He talked to someone who lived in Rio and he suggested this place

http://www.promenade.com.br

Does anybody know it? I guess it's in Copa, but it's a chain all over Brazil. I know it's half apart living, half hotel with some private ownership, but it seems suspect on the guest front. Does anybody have experience with this? Thanks.

R

Rosine
01-19-07, 17:37
I forgot to say the name of this particular place.

Thanks

Pipe Layer99
01-19-07, 20:37
I always feel very safe walking from 4x4 to the Metro at any time. I would not recommend walking many blocks away from this direction to either side, but from 4x4 to the metro it is safe up to the last train. Once on the metro I have always felt safe, much safer than buses or even a taxi. They do have cameras at the stations so I guess that helps.

Why do I prefer the metro over a taxi? If you have an accident in a taxi, and the way everybody drivers there is a good chance it will happen one day, you will die. The cars they use have no seat belts, no side impact bars, and are small and hence would open up like a tin can if hit. If you survived the accident you would not get the same medical care as in the west. The ambulance would be lucky to arrive in 30 minutes.


Some people may feel safe taking the train/metra (as do I). Thats probably because some have been there often, or for awhile. My previous post was directed at most other travellers (to be careful). I would not recommend the average monger to take the metra at night. Just getting to the metra or getting off can pose a problem. I've seen suspect looking guys on the way to centro termas and on the way back to the metra. A lot can happen in those few blocks one must walk. For that matter, shit happens even in Copa around the corner from Help.

Just want people to be safe and have an enjoyable trip.
It unfortunate we can't go there and walk around freely (without a watch, hiding money, keeping your eyes open, etc), bang some bundas, have drinks, fun hanging out and not have all the BS there.

Donnie D

Rosine
01-19-07, 20:56
Some people may feel safe taking the train/metra (as do I).

Just want people to be safe and have an enjoyable trip.
It unfortunate we can't go there and walk around freely (without a watch, hiding money, keeping your eyes open, etc), bang some bundas, have drinks, fun hanging out and not have all the BS there.

Donnie DI've actually gone around looking for the smaller Termas out there, the ones only locals go to which have taken me deep into centro. I think for the most part, I'm ok because while my gait and build is more American, my look is probably more brazilian. I have pretty much their same skin color and look, and I always wear my hair really short. I've never had a problem. Maybe I was being stupid, but if you have on beach shorts, a non flashy t shirt and a back pack, you really end up looking like everyone else. I walk with purpose, like I know where I'm going and only get my bearings in well lit areas. I've literally never had an incident in Rio and that's after going four times. I've been told that I'm relatively young looking and that I don't really look like someone who should be messed with, ie. There are easier targets out there. Who knows. I had a lot of fun at the small terma though. As with all places, there are always a few gems and there is something about being in a brazilian place, with American buying power, not a tourist place, it's just great.

I usually blend in, get a beer and just sit back and take it all in. I can't remember the Termas I went to, but they are known to experienced mongers interested in that kind of thing.

Lancer520
01-19-07, 23:58
I have a buddy who is organizing a bachelor party in Rio.. I know, it's a can't miss no matter what, but one thing I would like to get right is the accommodations. He talked to someone who lived in Rio and he suggested this place

http://www.promenade.com.br

Does anybody know it? I guess it's in Copa, but it's a chain all over Brazil. I know it's half apart living, half hotel with some private ownership, but it seems suspect on the guest front. Does anybody have experience with this? Thanks.

R
Actually I stayed at the Princess Copacabana this time last year. The hotel was actually very guest friendly. I noticed since last year, they doubled there rates. It is in a great location and the staff was very friendly and helpful.

Pana Nyc
01-20-07, 07:14
Me and my wingmen always take the bus going to Centro at 3pm and also going back to Copacabana at 10pm at night and never had any problems walking around Centro. Just curious do any other mongers take the bus in Rio? I have not heard it mention to much on here.

Mangera
01-20-07, 14:09
I usually stay in Ipanema ( close to Leblon )and almost always I end up taking the bus from Ipanema to the metro( one by Luomos ), and from there catch the metro to Centro. I first took the bus with a brazilian friend that explained the routes and the stops for me. He started his first lesson by taking me to the favela, lol( like if that was a top priority for me).

At first, since I did not speak any Portuguese whatsoever, I could not understand what the hell the bus driver or the attendant that collects money would say when ever I would ask for directions or help in general. None of them speak english. Now I speak and understand a bit more, So even though I enjoy taking the bus around town, I highly recommend newbies to go with an experienced person who knows bus system. Or, if you are the adventurous or risky type, then just get on board and see where it takes you.

The bus is interesting becuase you get a feel or sense of the typical crap brazilians go through on a daily basis to get from point A to B. Also, interestingly enough, during my last stay in Rio this past November, I decided to visit and get to know Niteroi. In order to get there, I took a bus to the port area, and from there I took the ferry across to the other side to get to Niteroi. On my way to the port (station), about a 4 or 5 blocks before getting there, as I am looking out the window at a bus stop, what do I see to my righthand side? Oh yea, a lovely and sexy garota walking down the sidewalk who ended up entering a doorway into a building. As I look up to read the sign above her head, I see the words "TERMAS AEROPORTO". Well what do you know, I had read quite a bit about this Termas in the forum a couple of years ago. But I never had any idea where the hell it was located or how to get there, but now I do. That alone, was worth the 2.25r for my trip on the bus.

Another example of a benefit from learning how to use the bus system, when going from Copa or Ipanema to Barra de Tijuca or comming, specifically at night time, there is a good chance the police will pull your taxi driver over and start the whole routine for shaking you down for $. This can be avoided by taking the bus. They hardly ever pull over a bus and come up with some bullshit scam to get $ out of you. Thats a very unlikely thing to happen. Bottom line, you just have to know which bus to get on. Good Luck gentlemen.

Pana Nyc
01-20-07, 16:10
I usually stay in Ipanema ( close to Leblon )and almost always I end up taking the bus from Ipanema to the metro( one by Luomos ), and from there catch the metro to Centro. I first took the bus with a brazilian friend that explained the routes and the stops for me. He started his first lesson by taking me to the favela, lol( like if that was a top priority for me).

At first, since I did not speak any Portuguese whatsoever, I could not understand what the hell the bus driver or the attendant that collects money would say when ever I would ask for directions or help in general. None of them speak english. Now I speak and understand a bit more, So even though I enjoy taking the bus around town, I highly recommend newbies to go with an experienced person who knows bus system. Or, if you are the adventurous or risky type, then just get on board and see where it takes you.

The bus is interesting becuase you get a feel or sense of the typical crap brazilians go through on a daily basis to get from point A to B. Also, interestingly enough, during my last stay in Rio this past November, I decided to visit and get to know Niteroi. In order to get there, I took a bus to the port area, and from there I took the ferry across to the other side to get to Niteroi. On my way to the port (station), about a 4 or 5 blocks before getting there, as I am looking out the window at a bus stop, what do I see to my righthand side? Oh yea, a lovely and sexy garota walking down the sidewalk who ended up entering a doorway into a building. As I look up to read the sign above her head, I see the words "TERMAS AEROPORTO". Well what do you know, I had read quite a bit about this Termas in the forum a couple of years ago. But I never had any idea where the hell it was located or how to get there, but now I do. That alone, was worth the 2.25r for my trip on the bus.

Another example of a benefit from learning how to use the bus system, when going from Copa or Ipanema to Barra de Tijuca or comming, specifically at night time, there is a good chance the police will pull your taxi driver over and start the whole routine for shaking you down for $. This can be avoided by taking the bus. They hardly ever pull over a bus and come up with some bullshit scam to get $ out of you. Thats a very unlikely thing to happen. Bottom line, you just have to know which bus to get on. Good Luck gentlemen.
I learned the Bus routes by traveling with an experience VET down there, and Im confident now to use the bus on my own which I did a couple of times my last trip to Rio. I would not tell a newbie to use the Bus down there unless if they are traveling with someone that knows the bus routes.

Ezinho
01-20-07, 16:51
Me and my wingmen always take the bus going to Centro at 3pm and also going back to Copacabana at 10pm at night and never had any problems walking around Centro. Just curious do any other mongers take the bus in Rio? I have not heard it mention to much on here.
I think taking the bus during the day is fine, and depending on how many times it stops to pick up passengers and the time of day, it can be almost as quick as taking the metro. If you're coming from Copa or Ipanema, just get on any bus that says Centro, and then once you get to Rua 1 de Março, get off there and you'll be less than a block away from both 4X4 (Rua Buenos Aires) and Termas 65 (Rua do Rosario), as well as a number of other small termas. I use to take this bus route all the time to get to the termas in Centro. Anyways, it seems like some of the guys here have problems finding the termases once they get off the Uruguaiana metro stop in Centro, so maybe this might be an easier way for some.

As for taking the bus at night...I don't think I would recommend that. Going from Ipanema to Copa would probably be fine at night, but Centro to Copa? Unless you literally don't have the cash on you, I think you're better off taking a cab or the metro back to Zona Sul, IMHO.

Pipe Layer99
01-22-07, 21:30
I will be taking 60 to 90 days off from my employment to reflect on the direction I want to take in my Professional career, and one of the area’s I am considering to spend this entire time is the beautiful country of Brazil. During my time in Brazil I would be looking to relax and live in a tranquil lifestyle. It has always been a dream you might say of mine to visit this country but now I am considering making it a reality possibly in April. I am a white American who is my 40’s and physically fit. Looking at the economic side of my stay, what area’s of Brazil would most be suitable for a new visitor such as me, referring to the ratio of the real to the dollar, health/safety/aids, finding an apartment or hotel/apartment, occasional mongering, e.c.t.?. As far as living quarters go, I would be looking for cleanliness, air conditioning, and internet access, and being in an area where there would be access to beautiful beaches would be great but not a necessity. I do have spanish speaking skills but not portuguese. Thank you in advance for any suggestions or advice.


Flying,
Take some time out of your schedule and read the forum.
Start with Bubba Boy's guide then move to all the other parts.
As you read the forum, you will find various reports (and opinions) on all your questions.

Pelicano
01-23-07, 12:27
After ariving in Rio, I went to the TIM store and bought a new chip, since my previous one had since long ago expeired the 90 days it remains active after the last addition of funds. After purchasing the new one for 19 Reais, I did not use it for a few days, since I went out to the mountains near Friburgo, where cell phones do not work.

What was my surprise to discover that it would not receive or send any calls until being activated. Some new federal law, requires one to have an active CFP, Carteira de Identidade and give your address and other information in order to make the chip functional and this process is independent of buying and instaling the chip. I didn't find out if there is a process whereby a foreigner can do this process without a CPF, but the prompts are in portuguese and one must be fluent in order to complete the process.

Thankfuly my local friend, did all the burocracy for me and now my phone works, but the number is registered in his name. So be sure to find someone to activate your phone for you or else it will not work.

Ardgneas
01-23-07, 23:36
What was my surprise to discover that it would not receive or send any calls until being activated. Some new federal law, requires one to have an active CFP, Carteira de Identidade and give your address and other information in order to make the chip functional and this process is independent of buying and instaling the chip. I didn't find out if there is a process whereby a foreigner can do this process without a CPF, but the prompts are in portuguese and one must be fluent in order to complete the process.Same problem with Oi. AFAIK with Claro you just need to present a passport in store to get it activated which obviously is better for most visitors.

Jan 156
01-25-07, 17:10
I think taking the bus during the day is fine, and depending on how many times it stops to pick up passengers and the time of day, it can be almost as quick as taking the metro. If you're coming from Copa or Ipanema, just get on any bus that says Centro, and then once you get to Rua 1 de Março, get off there and you'll be less than a block away from both 4X4 (Rua Buenos Aires) and Termas 65 (Rua do Rosario), as well as a number of other small termas.

As for taking the bus at night...I don't think I would recommend that. Going from Ipanema to Copa would probably be fine at night, but Centro to Copa? Unless you literally don't have the cash on you, I think you're better off taking a cab or the metro back to Zona Sul, IMHO.

I take buses at any time of the day or night, but I'd think twice before being in Centro at night. Early evening, leaving the termas maybe, but not later unless there's some event on and the streets will be busy.

I generally take a bus from Centro to Copa unless
i) I'm near the Metro station
ii) it's rush hour

Getting a bus in rush hour means a very time consuming journey.

Other advantages of the bus is it gives you more freedom as to which part of Copa you want to get off, so may save you a walk.

Buses going in to Centro stop in different places. It's a good idea to get your bearings some time when the town is busy but not too busy (eg mid morning weekday). Going out of Centro, most buses leave via Rio Branco.

Coming in, you maybe want to be able to recognise the central square where the parliament building is, or the main subway bus-stop where the express buses stop (just the other side of the square).

If you are going to be around for a while and want to use the buses, a copy of "Ruas" is good value - all the bus routes and detailed maps of the whole of Rio.

Mr Enternational
02-02-07, 09:23
After ariving in Rio, I went to the TIM store and bought a new chip, since my previous one had since long ago expeired the 90 days it remains active after the last addition of funds. After purchasing the new one for 19 Reais, I did not use it for a few days, since I went out to the mountains near Friburgo, where cell phones do not work.

What was my surprise to discover that it would not receive or send any calls until being activated. Some new federal law, requires one to have an active CFP, Carteira de Identidade and give your address and other information in order to make the chip functional and this process is independent of buying and instaling the chip. I didn't find out if there is a process whereby a foreigner can do this process without a CPF, but the prompts are in portuguese and one must be fluent in order to complete the process.

Thankfuly my local friend, did all the burocracy for me and now my phone works, but the number is registered in his name. So be sure to find someone to activate your phone for you or else it will not work.First of all it is better to go with Claro. My first chip was from Oi. And although I visit Brazil many times every year, in 2005 there was a 4 month gap because I had to take grad classes in France. When I returned to Rio I didn't know why my chip that I had had for the past year didn't work. I had already had business cards printed with my number and all. Well the girl at the store finally figured that I had not added minutes in over 3 months. She recommended that I buy a new chip from Claro because you can have a 5 month period that you do not recharge minutes, whereas the other companies only give you 90 days.

Also, I have a CPF and speak Portuguese but whenever I go or take my friends to buy a sim card (always at Lojas Americanas), I always have the saleslady call and activate it. It's usually a 10 minute process. I don't know how it works without a CPF, but in Colombia I think it was the same process except he used my passport number.

Mr Enternational
02-02-07, 09:31
I have a buddy who is organizing a bachelor party in Rio.. I know, it's a can't miss no matter what, but one thing I would like to get right is the accommodations. He talked to someone who lived in Rio and he suggested this place

http://www.promenade.com.br

Does anybody know it? I guess it's in Copa, but it's a chain all over Brazil. I know it's half apart living, half hotel with some private ownership, but it seems suspect on the guest front. Does anybody have experience with this? Thanks.

RAlthough I have never stayed at the Princess myself, my best friend and his wife always stay there. I have a couple of other friends who use the place as well. I think it's pretty much like any other hotel in respect to chicas, meaning they have to leave their ID at the front desk. I'm not sure how many guests are allowed at a time. Most places only allow 1. I know this time last year and the year before the rate was US$86/day. I did see where Lancer said they have since doubled that since he last stayed there. But they usually do double it every year from a couple of weeks before Carnaval until a couple of weeks after.

Mangera
02-03-07, 15:59
Today the exchange rate was at 2.09 R for every dollar. Hope this trend doe not continue.

SlickdySlick
02-03-07, 17:04
Thats why I have been converting my money to the British Pound since I got back last year! I think I have made about $300 just on the exchange rate.

George90
02-03-07, 21:23
Today the exchange rate was at 2.09 R for every dollar. Hope this trend doe not continue.

What is going on is the rest of the world finally catching on the disastrous economic policies the Bush administration has been foisting on us. Huge budget deficits due to cutting taxes on the rich and getting into expensive wars. (The rest of the world thinks Bush wants to start still another war with Iran.) Huge trade deficits with China and no credible plans to reduce it. AND a lack of credible resolve to support the value of the dollar by making US production more competitive, reducing the budget deficit, and raising interest rates.

Lots of countries have huge US dollar reserves. They are starting to diversify into euros the same way Slick is diversifying into pounds. The lower demand for dollars sends its value still lower.

The trend will continue!

Almotu
02-03-07, 22:16
Can you explain how to do this? Are you saying to go to the local money exchange and buy GBP notes for your travels overseas? or is there more upside to buying Euros?

SlickdySlick
02-03-07, 23:19
Almotu,

I am an American living in the U.A.E. so it is very easy for me to change my money to pounds (we use the dirham here and it's tied to the dollar) but you can go to any bank and they should be able to give you pounds but since it is not so common to do in thestates I imagine the exchange rate sucks.

Weak dollar is sweet for American business so I doubt the U.S. will do anything to try to strengten the dollar but if Brazil was smart they would try to devaule their money like the itailians use to do with the Lira. Now they are getting their asses kicked with the Eruo which they have no control over.

However even with a suck rate from the bank in the states if you started to do this last march like I did you would still make money. I think two trips to 4 X 4 will be paid for by using the pound instead opf the dollar YEA!

SlickdySlick
02-03-07, 23:21
Also if you buy Eruos or Pounds the day you leave for your trip you have not done anything. You have to let the Pound or eruo grow over time hopefully but remember if the dollar gets stronger you lose money!

Eros74
02-04-07, 01:15
As Almotu,please elaborate and mainly what you'd do if you were living in europe, I mean getting salary in euro and plan to come to Brasil in holiday about in late '07?

Do you will go to Brasil with euro and simply there change into reais or what else as for example change euro into another value before to come?

Thanks in advance and have nice sunday!

CaptainNemo
02-04-07, 03:42
You can buy currency in the ETF.

Check out: FXA, FXB, FXC, FXE, FXF, FXM.

Too bad there is no ETF on Brazilian Real (anyone wants to start one with me?)

ETFs offer some interest income(not much)

Personally, I buy precious metals, with more risks(and more rewards)

Bubba Boy
02-04-07, 03:52
There is an etf for Brazilian stocks.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=ewz

It is usually a hairy ride.........

George90
02-04-07, 08:23
Almotu,

What Slick is talking about is only feasible if you conduct your business in something other than dollars. He is UAE and doesn't shop in dollars.

If the value of the dollar is falling, you would convert it today into euros. You put it in a bank account and collect interest for 6 months. Then you convert it back to dollars at lower dollar value. The euro then converts into more dollars than you had 6 months earlier.

If the value of the dollar is rising, then don't do this.

It is possible to get a euro denominated account in some banks in the US. But if you have to pay rent, buy groceries, pay the mortgage in dollars, then such an account wouldn't make sense. (Unless you are rich.)

For US regular residents, we just have to take it up the ass.

George90
02-04-07, 08:28
As Almotu,please elaborate and mainly what you'd do if you were living in europe, I mean getting salary in euro and plan to come to Brasil in holiday about in late '07?

Do you will go to Brasil with euro and simply there change into reais or what else as for example change euro into another value before to come?

Thanks in advance and have nice sunday!


Since the euro is rising against the dollar (and therefore probably against the real too), just sit back and wait until you travel.

You can buy travellers' cheques, bring cash, or use your ATM card. The debit card is considered better because the ATMs seem to give getter exchange rates than banks changing T-cheques.

Cho 637
02-04-07, 09:50
Same problem with Oi. AFAIK with Claro you just need to present a passport in store to get it activated which obviously is better for most visitors.Tim works just like Claro.

Mr Enternational
02-04-07, 13:47
Almotu,

If the value of the dollar is falling, you would convert it today into euros. You put it in a bank account and collect interest for 6 months. Then you convert it back to dollars at lower dollar value. The euro then converts into more dollars than you had 6 months earlier.

If the value of the dollar is rising, then don't do this.

It is possible to get a euro denominated account in some banks in the US. But if you have to pay rent, buy groceries, pay the mortgage in dollars, then such an account wouldn't make sense. (Unless you are rich.)

For US regular residents, we just have to take it up the ass.Like you said, rich is the key word. Unless you plan on converting an ass-load of money it really doesn't matter in the short term (less than 1 year.) Because the amount that it will cost you in fees from the exchanging and the account itself will probably be more than what you call yourself gaining or saving anyway.

Ezinho
02-04-07, 16:11
Today the exchange rate was at 2.09 R for every dollar. Hope this trend doe not continue.
Wow, the exchange rate sure does suck now, but the good news is that Copa Airlines now flies to Rio/Sao from the U.S, so at least you can save some money on the flight. If you go to copaair.com, they have a promo fare priced at $622 RT plus tax, also you will get 2000 bonus OnePass miles if you buy from their site. I flew them here to Ecuador, and was not really impressed, but their fares are consistenly the lowest to South America. At that price I would fly them again. Just be aware when flying from LAX, you fly in a 737 to Panama City, and then change planes there. That 737 is cramped! Also, eat something before you get on the plane, I learned that the hard way!

I would have jumped on this fare a couple years ago, but I'm not going back to Brasil for a long time, so someone here feel free to take my seat!
http://www.copaair.com/nuestraempresa/noticias/noticia.aspx?Id=88

Kid03
02-04-07, 16:18
I came back from Sao Paulo last week. The ATM gave me a rate of 2.12R to a dollar. I was staying at Av. Paulista and went to a local cambio. There I got a exchange rate of 2.20R. I guess the cambio's in the city give a better rate then the ATM (I had to pay ATM fees and 2% conversion charge) or the combio's at the airport. I exchange my money in two different place and at both the places I got 2.20R to a dollar. When I was leaving I had in excess of 1100R on me. I exchange them back to dollars and I was paid at 2.28R to a dollar.

Exec Talent
02-04-07, 16:46
Wow, the exchange rate sure does suck now, but the good news is that Copa Airlines now flies to Rio/Sao from the U.S, so at least you can save some money on the flight. If you go to copaair.com, they have a promo fare priced at $622 RT plus tax, also you will get 2000 bonus OnePass miles if you buy from their site. I flew them here to Ecuador, and was not really impressed, but their fares are consistenly the lowest to South America. At that price I would fly them again. Just be aware when flying from LAX, you fly in a 737 to Panama City, and then change planes there. That 737 is cramped! Also, eat something before you get on the plane, I learned that the hard way!

I would have jumped on this fare a couple years ago, but I'm not going back to Brasil for a long time, so someone here feel free to take my seat!
http://www.copaair.com/nuestraempresa/noticias/noticia.aspx?Id=88

Did the 737 have a first class? How about the flight out of Panama City? I fly back and forth all time and like to be aware of all options.

Thanks!

Ezinho
02-04-07, 23:53
Did the 737 have a first class? How about the flight out of Panama City? I fly back and forth all time and like to be aware of all options.

Thanks!
Ah, good question, thanks for bringing it up. I was in coach, but was up in the front of coach, so I got a pretty good view of First class. All I can tell you is that they were serving the drinks in First in plastic cups! Also, I didn't see a Business class like I usually do on flights to South America, but First class looked so sorry that I assumed it was Business class, and maybe First was upstairs or something. But I guess on the 737 there is no Business class on Copa. Like I said, for the price, it's still a good deal I think. Perhaps Copa is the Southwest Airlines of Latin America? Anyways, for me, as long as they get me there in one piece, I'm happy.

The flight out of Panama City was also a 737 I believe, and for the 1 1/2 hour flight to Quito, it was fine. But to Rio, I don't know about that. Someone here will have to purchase a ticket and let us know!

Mr Enternational
02-05-07, 05:21
I came back from Sao Paulo last week. The ATM gave me a rate of 2.12R to a dollar. I was staying at Av. Paulista and went to a local cambio. There I got a exchange rate of 2.20R. I guess the cambio's in the city give a better rate then the ATM (I had to pay ATM fees and 2% conversion charge) or the combio's at the airport. I exchange my money in two different place and at both the places I got 2.20R to a dollar. When I was leaving I had in excess of 1100R on me. I exchange them back to dollars and I was paid at 2.28R to a dollar.You probabaly exchanged on the black market. They tend to give a better rate than the interbank exchange (the usual amount you see posted, which is the rate that banks exchange money amongst themselves.) On the black market rates moreso reflect the natural exchange rates in the global marketplance absent of government controls. The best the ATM can do is give you money at the interbank exchange because it can not exceed that posted rate. Otherwise it would be considered "illegal."

The cambios at the airport will give you a rate less than the interbank exchange because that is how they make money. They buy at the interbank exchange and sell for a bit more than what you see posted on the internet. Plus they may charge a fee.

Robert Palli
02-05-07, 06:01
Here are here pics wonder where she is.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=148688068
she says she is not a help girl. the myspace girl but she looks just like franciele and has the same name as the help girl franciele.

Mc Boob
02-05-07, 06:13
I am looking for accommodations for in Rio for 3-4 people

Any really nice hotels or condos in safe good areas where local female guests are allowed?

Thanks

Bubba Boy
02-05-07, 06:52
in safe good areasYou are talking about Rio right? Good safe areas do not exist.

Eros74
02-05-07, 13:32
For example Bubba, in your opinion is safer to take a flat around,and stay too.., copacabana beach or ipanema?

How these areas are not "safe"?

I was 3 weeks in Recife in march 03 and I had zero problems,but it seems Rio is different from Recife as safety..

Thanks!

SlickdySlick
02-05-07, 16:27
I am in the UAE which only helps me cause exchanging money is common so the fees are good, but our money the Dirham is tied to the dollar at 3.67 so as goes the dollar as goes the Dirham.

Goodnews it does make a differance when you think about like this here is my real world case study:

I go to RIo every March. 2006 is was leaving rio with about $500 USD instead of turning it to Dirhams I converted it to Pounds. This did two things:

#1 I could not spend the money so those time when we feel like we need something but we just really wanted I was not tempted to spend it cause I couldn't.

#2 Now I was gambling the growth between the pound and the Real not the pound and the dollar.

OK back to numbers converting USD to pound at .573 in March now the bank fees here are only 2%. Now it March 2007 and the dollar to the pound is .503 only a 7% gain and take out my 2% it's down to 5% hardly worth it.

But wait!

I am going to Rio it's not how the Pound did against the dollar it is how did the pound do against the Real.

March 2006 - 4.012

March 2007 - 4.289

Now that's 29% increase take out the 2% fee and you are looking at 27%
or my $500 made $135.00 USD or 286.2 Reals for us cheap skates who give the girls R200.00 tops that's a shag and drinks at Help with the cab ride home.

And considering I have been doing this with a hundred buck here and there I have made even more than that.

Ryjerrob
02-05-07, 20:08
Here are here pics wonder where she is.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=148688068
she says she is not a help girl. the myspace girl but she looks just like franciele and has the same name as the help girl franciele.Someone was just asking about this same GDP in the forum on the Help website.

Ryjer

Ryjerrob
02-05-07, 20:13
I am looking for accommodations for in Rio for 3-4 people

Any really nice hotels or condos in safe good areas where local female guests are allowed?

ThanksIf you're looking for a hotel with a guest friendly policy, I know a few. My person favorite option is to rent a house or apt. I have done both. On two occassions, I have rent a huge house in a gated community in Niteroi. It's about a 30 minute drive. As for an apt in Copa. , there are a ton of them. I can give a few of the websites, but just use common sense. You probably want a place about 1-3 blocks from Help, just for convience.

Let me know if you need anything. PM me if you want an unbiased list of places to stay.

Ryjer

Aybolit
02-07-07, 02:36
I need to send a deposit for an apartment that I will be renting in Rio. Is there a secure way to send the money from the states? I never met the guy i am renting from, and even though he sounds like a great guy I dont want to take any chances of the money dissappearing and me being left without an apartment when I get to Rio.

Any suggestions?

Mc Boob
02-07-07, 05:23
If you're looking for a hotel with a guest friendly policy, I know a few. My person favorite option is to rent a house or apt. I have done both. On two occassions, I have rent a huge house in a gated community in Niteroi. It's about a 30 minute drive. As for an apt in Copa. , there are a ton of them. I can give a few of the websites, but just use common sense. You probably want a place about 1-3 blocks from Help, just for convience.

Let me know if you need anything. PM me if you want an unbiased list of places to stay.

RyjerEvidently you have to pay to send pm's.

Is there anyway you can get me this information?

Much appreciated

Mr Enternational
02-07-07, 05:26
Now that's 29% increase take out the 2% fee and you are looking at 27% or my $500 made $135.00 USD or 286.2 Reals for us cheap skates who give the girls R200.00 tops that's a shag and drinks at Help with the cab ride home.

And considering I have been doing this with a hundred buck here and there I have made even more than that.Oh that was sweet. To make $135 on $500 in a year is better than loansharking or equivalent to a high interest credit card.

Mr Enternational
02-07-07, 05:33
Hello Fellow Members,

Zlatko Anguelow from rioholidays responded back to me with several apartments with $3,000 dollars being the lowest rent offered. The other two agencies have yet to respond to me, but I do not want to be ripped off so I am asking if the standard 2 bedroom apartment is really this high to rent?. Thank you in advance for your kindness in responding to my post.My frat brother rented a place last year for a month. It was only a 1BR but I think he paid like $600. I'll send him an email to see if I can get the contact info of who he rented from. Maybe they have 2 BRs as well.

RonnyRon
02-07-07, 05:43
I recommend copaapartments.com and let her know RonnyRon referred you. She will take care of you. Best service I have ever used.

RonnyRon

Pipe Layer99
02-07-07, 09:11
I need to send a deposit for an apartment that I will be renting in Rio. Is there a secure way to send the money from the states? I never met the guy i am renting from, and even though he sounds like a great guy I dont want to take any chances of the money dissappearing and me being left without an apartment when I get to Rio.

Any suggestions?

My first trip, I rented through rio rentals. Sent only 10% depsoit. They had some good reviews in the apartment rental section. That was a small risk.
I actually got a nice apt and had a good trip. So, unless you have a trustworthy person or contact there, why not book a hotel for a day.
Now when I go, I always stay at a hotel for 1 - 2 nights then go look for an apt in the afternoon. There are rental places all over the place. This way you can negotiate the price for the apt after you see the 'CONDITION'. Ask for a free cell phone too.

Check out the apt section of this forum and send some emails. Get their phone numbers and office addresses. Then when you get there, call them to see what they have avail and go have a look. Its easy to get around and you will only need spend about 2 hrs looking. You can also look at some potential victims along the way. Depending on whats available, you may only need to go look at a few.

I have used Rio Rentals and John Thompsom's office (around the corner from Help).

Good luck and have fun for me. Donnie D

Pipe Layer99
02-07-07, 09:18
I recommend copaapartments.com and let her know RonnyRon referred you. She will take care of you. Best service I have ever used.

RonnyRon

I met the woman who runs the copa apartments. She was very helpful and actually nice to meet. At the time I was there in Nov, she showed me 1 apt that was avail, then when I passed she dropped the price by R10 per day. I like another apt and told her. The 2nd apt (the one I wanted) was only avail for 2 nights, then I'd have to move. So I went with another agency. She did go out of her way to help me. Donnie

Jean You
02-07-07, 11:08
I met the woman who runs the copa apartments. She was very helpful and actually nice to meet. At the time I was there in Nov, she showed me 1 apt that was avail, then when I passed she dropped the price by R10 per day. I like another apt and told her. The 2nd apt (the one I wanted) was only avail for 2 nights, then I'd have to move. So I went with another agency. She did go out of her way to help me. DonnieDieine (often saus Diana) who runs Copa Apartments is always very helpful and her English skills are great since she was together with an American som years ago. I went over some years ago with some of my friends and we rented different apartments in Leme, Prado Juniro etc. One of my friends even ended up dating her, but that is a different story.

Jasss
02-07-07, 16:33
anyone wann hook up in salvador during 14 to 19 for a beer? or in rio between 25 to 28. it would be good to hook up with a few mongers from wsg.
i need a apartment in rio if any1 wanna share, or know any contacts to hook me up.

Ryjerrob
02-07-07, 18:10
My first trip, I rented through rio rentals. Sent only 10% depsoit. They had some good reviews in the apartment rental section. That was a small risk.
I actually got a nice apt and had a good trip. So, unless you have a trustworthy person or contact there, why not book a hotel for a day.

Now when I go, I always stay at a hotel for 1 - 2 nights then go look for an apt in the afternoon. There are rental places all over the place. This way you can negotiate the price for the apt after you see the 'CONDITION'. Ask for a free cell phone too.

Check out the apt section of this forum and send some emails. Get their phone numbers and office addresses. Then when you get there, call them to see what they have avail and go have a look. Its easy to get around and you will only need spend about 2 hrs looking. You can also look at some potential victims along the way. Depending on whats available, you may only need to go look at a few.

I have used Rio Rentals and John Thompsom's office (around the corner from Help).

Good luck and have fun for me. Donnie DThat's a smart way of doing it. On my first trip I was alone, and at the mercy of the internet. I hadn't even heard of anyone visiting Rio before. I do get the newsletter from Rio Rentals, and the pics on their site look nice. On my first trip I had an apt. for 1 day, but was actually staying in Niteroi at www.rioholiday.com. It's a bit overpriced, but I didn't know any better. It was so overpriced that I did it again the second trip. Help girls were kinda funny about going that far, but they will. I guess they firgure that can try to jack up the going rates, which did happen. This next trip I'm staying in Copa where I'm a lot closer to the action.

Ryjer

Bubba Boy
02-08-07, 01:01
My goodness those houses are expensive to rent. I am thinking those houses would not cost that much to buy, probably US$200k at a max. On the rental returns they are getting they would get their money back in 3 or 4 years.

Trippleecks
02-08-07, 13:57
Flying Sky High.., for a TWO bedroom apartment in Copacabana you should be able to find one at the upper amount of your spending limit. My guess would be about 3600-4000.REALS or so for a month in a basic 2 bed room apartment in Copacabana. Maybe last year with the REAL at 2.6 or higher, it was less expensive, but now with the REAL at 2.08 it's a lot higher. I doubt if the people renting apts. have raised their prices any. It's just that the exchange rate for the Dollar sucks...

Ryjerrob
02-08-07, 18:34
My goodness those houses are expensive to rent. I am thinking those houses would not cost that much to buy, probably US$200k at a max. On the rental returns they are getting they would get their money back in 3 or 4 years.The rates went up from the first time I stayed there. I kinda got screwed by the guys I went with the last time. One guy, who was on his first trip, brought 3 GDP's back with him. Long story short, that ended up drinking all kinds of stuff from the stocked bar. In the end I just paid the extra money, and chalked it up to a lesson learned.

Anyway, just because you can afford something, dosen't mean you should purchase it. I'm gonna stay in the Copa area from now on. Maybe if I need a side trip with a 10, I'll do a 1-2 day trip somewhere.

Ryjer

RonnyRon
02-09-07, 18:27
You may want to PM Tom & Jerry who is there now. He used http://www.rentaflat.com.br/index.php

Sounds like he got a good deal $1,100.00 a month. Check his post below
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=532092#post532092

RR

Mr Enternational
02-09-07, 19:22
You may want to PM Tom & Jerry who is there now. He used http://www.rentaflat.com.br/index.php

Sounds like he got a good deal $1,100.00 a month. Check his post below
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=532092#post532092

RRMy frat brother said that he rented the 1BR for US$700/month. He is looking for the contact info for me. But, I ran into a guy yesterday who was passing out flyers for www.carvalhorentrio.com. This flyer has the carnaval rates on it, but he said regular monthly rental is about R$1500 for two bedrooms. I will go later to check at the office.

Also, I stopped by a friend´s apartment yesterday. She lives on Rua Santa Clara. She said that her studio costs R$390/month with all the bills. But it is a more long term lease. I´m going to hook up with one of those myself.

Ezinho
02-10-07, 00:13
You may want to PM Tom & Jerry who is there now. He used http://www.rentaflat.com.br/index.php

Sounds like he got a good deal $1,100.00 a month. Check his post below
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=532092#post532092

RR
Not sure whether this will change anyone's mind or not, but I too have used Rent a Flat and can recommend them as well; ask for Felipe, the hairy guy. Their apartments are priced by the month I believe, but I think they rent them out by the week as well, although at a much higher price per day than you would get monthly.

They actually have studio apartments priced as low as 1000 *REAIS* a month. Not in Copa or Ipanema though, but in Leme, Botafogo, Flamengo, even Catete, if I remember correctly. These neighborhoods might not interest a lot of guys on the board however, since they are pretty far away from the Copa scene. Anyways, I rented one of their apartments in Leme for that price, plus 50% deposit. Granted, it was a small studio apartment, quite basic, and in a somewhat crappy building, so if you like to be a high roller while in Rio, you wouldn't have liked it. Of course, all I needed was a bed, so it worked fine for me!

Mr Enternational
02-10-07, 01:17
I went to the office of Carvalho to get prices. Ayrton told me a 2 BR is R$150/day but because you need it for a month it will be R$2,200. A studio per day is R$80.

Master Yoda
02-10-07, 22:42
Not all light skinned morena are like this, most light skinned morenas are your average Brazilians IE quite poor. Generally speaking your average patricinha is white skinned.

The irony of this is your average upper class Brazilian would be considered middle class *at best* in your average western country. This is not including the rich Brazilians which tend to make up a tiny fraction of the population, maybe a few thousand families.

Would these ladies in the picture Patrincinhas if you bumped into them in the street?

Bubba Boy
02-10-07, 23:29
Who knows, but I would *do* the chic on the left.

Master Yoda
02-11-07, 00:01
Who knows, but I would *do* the chic on the left.dude why settle for one when you can have 2?

Bubba Boy
02-11-07, 01:11
I just can't do white chics in Brazil, can't see the point.

Master Yoda
02-11-07, 01:24
I just can't do white chics in Brazil, can't see the point.why the hell not? you seem like a nice guy. do you find them too difficult?

Jan 156
02-11-07, 05:50
Not sure whether this will change anyone's mind or not, but I too have used Rent a Flat and can recommend them as well; ask for Felipe, the hairy guy.

They actually have studio apartments priced as low as 1000 *REAIS* a month. Not in Copa or Ipanema though, but in Leme, Botafogo, Flamengo, even Catete, if I remember correctly. I rented one of their apartments in Leme for that price, plus 50% deposit.

I didn't notice he was particularly hairy <g> but I've rented stuff from Felipe a few times and agree he's a pretty sound businessman, nothing shady. Not that much room for haggling, and not all his apartments are wonderful, but I always inspect before I rent.

The Leme deal sounds great - most of Leme is hardly very far from Copa and it's a lot more upmarket as a neighbourhood.

El Austriaco
02-12-07, 21:12
Hello again guys!,

I just was able to move some dates around on my work schedule which will allow me to spend another 30 days in Rio!. :) I will have this opportunity the later part of June and through the 3rd week in July. Will the weather during this period of time be conducive to the beach, as I love to spend my day on it?. Also is the apartment rentals cheaper during this period of time. Agian thank you to all! :)
Normally, apartment rentals should be cheaper during that time of the year, yes, but please keep in mind that this year, the XV Pan American Games will be held in Rio from July 13 through July 29, 2007 (http://www.cob.org.br/pan2007/ingles/indexing.asp), so you might have to pay premium for part of your stay.

Generally speaking, the weather should be fine for the beach (remember, the beach is the Brazilian's living room, so there will always be people in the living room). Not as many, but still. And it's not as muggy and humid as normally.

EA

Bubba Boy
02-12-07, 21:37
Flying high summed up my point in a nutshell. I prefer the exotic look of "morenas" in Brazil. I don't particularly like the look of really dark girls or really white girls, I love the in between look. When i am in Brazil I only have eyes for this look. Can't get enough of it actually.

Other countries I can do white girls or any other color, just don't see the point of it in Brazil.

Master Yoda
02-13-07, 02:59
Flying high summed up my point in a nutshell. I prefer the exotic look of "morenas" in Brazil. I don't particularly like the look of really dark girls or really white girls, I love the in between look. When i am in Brazil I only have eyes for this look. Can't get enough of it actually.

Other countries I can do white girls or any other color, just don't see the point of it in Brazil.BubbaBoy, you and I are actually on the same page.

I don't particularly like the white look either that I see here in England. I want the exotic look of the olive-skin or slightly tanned look, and a nice ass. But aren't those 2 girls in the picture morenas provided before morenas?

Anyway the pics below are my ideal chica. Of course she is a model and well out of my league but the skin tone is perfect.

European66
02-13-07, 13:18
El Austriaco,

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Mike

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Trippleecks
02-13-07, 13:59
MasterYoda, yea, you'll find a non-pro in Rio that looks just like her. She will speak perfect English and she will pay "you" to fuck her........ Ha, Ha......

Master Yoda
02-15-07, 00:34
MasterYoda, yea, you'll find a non-pro in Rio that looks just like her. She will speak perfect English and she will pay "you" to fuck her........ Ha, Ha......LOL very funny. I would be dreaming for a woman like that to be linking up with an ugly old man like me.

Master Yoda
02-15-07, 02:04
Former Brazilian beauty queen Taiza Thomsen had disappeared and her parents were very worried fearing she had been kidnapped, but now she has turned up alive and well and living in London.

Taiza Thomsen, 24, who had been crowned Miss Brazil back in 2002 after the winner had admitted she was married, had vanished and her family made a television appeal after she didn’t respond to their calls.

Brazilian beauty queen Taiza ThomsenThe international police force Interpol, as well as Brazilian and British forces, were all involved in looking for the former beauty queen.

The mystery was solved when Taiza Thomsen got in touch with Brazilian police to say she was fine but wanted to be left alone and didn’t even want to contact her parents.

The police in Brazil have said that Taiza Thomsen is within her rights to remain isolated from her family if that is what she desires.

Giggs11
02-15-07, 11:04
Flying high summed up my point in a nutshell. I prefer the exotic look of "morenas" in Brazil. I don't particularly like the look of really dark girls or really white girls, I love the in between look. When i am in Brazil I only have eyes for this look. Can't get enough of it actually.

Other countries I can do white girls or any other color, just don't see the point of it in Brazil.I tend to be more attracted to the euro types, but with the jet black hair. Whats the best region in brasil to find this type?

Sui Generis
02-15-07, 21:16
I tend to be more attracted to the euro types, but with the jet black hair. Whats the best region in brasil to find this type?


I would say the states of Parana and Rio Grande do Sul....gauchas. gauchas, gauchas!

Prosal
02-15-07, 21:48
I tend to be more attracted to the euro types, but with the jet black hair. Whats the best region to find this type?


If you like tall, thin and hot white-skinned brunettes with jet-black hairs and beautiful faces (as I do ;)), Brasil is NOT the best place for you.

Go to Romania, Bulgaria or Moldova, where women have this beautiful and unique blend of slavic and meditarrean backgrounds.

The density of 8s and 9s - and above - brunettes is statistically absurd in those countries. This is, without being controversial, NOT the case in Brasil ; nonetheless, in Parana, Santa Catarina, Sao Paulo, Goias and Rio Grande do Sul, you will definitely find the country's most stunning women.

Cheers

Master Yoda
02-16-07, 01:05
If you like tall, thin and hot white-skinned brunettes with jet-black hairs and beautiful faces (as I do ;)), Brasil is NOT the best place for you.

Go to Romania, Bulgaria or Moldova, where women have this beautiful and unique blend of slavic and meditarrean backgrounds.

The density of 8s and 9s - and above - brunettes is statistically absurd in those countries. This is, without being controversial with SG, NOT the case in Brasil, even if in Parana, Santa Catarina, Sao Paulo state, Goias and Rio Grande do Sul, there's definitely the most stunning women in Brasil.

Cheers

Well I am looking for non-pro morena like the one in that pictures I put up. I bet a chick like that one would be pretty arrogant and probably wouldn't shag old gringos like myself.

I think she'd be classified as a morena.

Prosal
02-16-07, 09:27
I think she'd be classified as a morena.

She looks very romanian to me.

You should go to Bucarest or Sofia. As I said, Romania and Bulgaria just overflow of those stunning jet-black brunettes with latinas looks.

Sui Generis
02-16-07, 11:42
She looks very romanian to me.

You should go to Bucarest or Sofia. As I said, Romania and Bulgaria just overflow of those stunning jet-black brunettes with latinas looks.

Romanian, Czech, Bulgarian and Hungarian women are beautiful! No doubt about that, but they lack ginga...the way brazilians women swing their body.

It don't mean a thing
if you ain't got that swing
doubadoubadouba!

Prosal
02-16-07, 12:51
Linda morena fruta de vez temporana
Caldo de cana caiana
Vem me desfrutar
Morena tropicana eu quero teu sabor ...


(Alceu Valenca - Morena tropicana) ;)

Bigblkman22
02-20-07, 05:11
Hey has anyone tried to use adultfriendfinder.com to meet garotas. Are they all programas or are there some non-pros? how do you tell the difference?

Thanks

El Austriaco
02-20-07, 08:25
Hey has anyone tried to use adultfriendfinder.com to meet garotas. Are they all programas or are there some non-pros? how do you tell the difference?

Thanks
I have used Amigos.com which, as far as I know, belongs to the adultfriendfinder network. While I would generally assume that the girls there are non-pros, you can never be sure, and certainly, I have met some girls that met the pro characteristics. You know, giving you sob stories about being so poor, always out of money, asking for money right away, stories that in the long run just don't mesh (she never seems to work, but always has money, etc.). Just use common sense and be extra careful.

A while ago, I posted in response to a story of an American who got killed in Brazil by this girl he had met on the Net:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=518724&postcount=561

EA

Brazil Lover
02-21-07, 03:45
Orkut is absolutely swimming with brazilians. www.orkut.com

It's google's version of myspace, only it ended up getting overrun with the brazilians, so it's not very popular in the US.

Sui Generis
02-21-07, 16:52
Orkut is absolutely swimming with brazilians. www.orkut.com

It's google's version of myspace, only it ended up getting overrun with the brazilians, so it's not very popular in the US.

I concord. I was invited by a brazilian girlfriend (NGP) of mine on Orkut. To be a member of that community you must be invited by someone.

You can find a lot of GP on orkut. The funny part of it is that you can look into their «professional profile» as GP, then, sometimes, if you look who are their friends you will end up with another GP revealing her real name and posting pictures of her with her family.

A lot of my friends from the famous brazilian forum are on Orkut. My profile on Orkut is a professional one; I have no links with GPs or other hobbyists. To tell you the truth, I don't see what is the use of Orkut, but Brazilians are simply crazy about that.

Mr Enternational
02-22-07, 01:27
To tell you the truth, I don't see what is the use of Orkut, but Brazilians are simply crazy about that.Dammit. I am tired of all of my Brazilian friends asking me if I have Orkut. I tell them that I have it but I don't use it. I don't have time to go creeping around on every internet site that lets you put a profile up. Then they go find my page and write something on it that I will never go look at. Then another chick will go look and ask questions about who the other girls are. I'm like I have no f'n idea because I do not even go on the site. Like you said I don't see the purpose in it, but I guess if someone wants to meet Brazilians maybe it would be a good site to frequent.

Monger 3
02-22-07, 07:36
http://doidoporbunda.********.com/2007_01_01_doidoporbunda_archive.html

plus learn how to say "nice ass" in about 1mm Brazilian ways!

RxHammer
02-22-07, 10:14
Hey Guys,

Anyone have a copy of Pimsluer II & III they want to sell ?? Or a link to a cheap download ??

Toss me a PM if you have a chance,

Obrigado,

Hammer

Bubba Boy
02-22-07, 15:16
If you can't get Pimsleur try this , it is free......

http://fsi-language-courses.com/Portuguese.aspx

Perkele
02-22-07, 16:09
Hey Guys,

Anyone have a copy of Pimsluer II & III they want to sell ?? Or a link to a cheap download ??

Toss me a PM if you have a chance,

Obrigado,

Hammer

Why pay?

Limewire, emule, edonkey etc.

Look for Pimsleur Brazil... Try different combinations. That's the way.

All free.

Mr Enternational
02-23-07, 00:08
I think I have II or III on my hardrive. If you can't find anyone with it on Limewire then we could log on at the same time and you can get it from me.


Why pay?

Limewire, emule, edonkey etc.

Look for Pimsleur Brazil... Try different combinations. That's the way.

All free.

Dutch44
02-24-07, 21:02
whats a good site to translate brasilian portoguese? i tried alta vista but that for regular porto not brasilian.I use: http://www.freetranslation.com/

You can select how you want to translate (english to portuguese or vice versa) Other langauages are supported too.

Don't expect perfect translations, but it get's a message accross.

Dutch44

George90
02-25-07, 00:24
whats a good site to translate brasilian portoguese? i tried alta vista but that for regular porto not brasilian.

None are good! Forget about online translators, they work word for word. Get a good dictionary or hire a human translator. Humans can translate phrases, slang, and idiomatic expressions.

Sui Generis
02-25-07, 06:55
None are good! Forget about online translators, they work word for word. Get a good dictionary or hire a human translator. Humans can translate phrases, slang, and idiomatic expressions.

Fully agree with you. Being myself a professional translator (among other things), I know what are the shortcomings of automated translation. In fact, there is only one domain where it works fairly well: meteorological reports. This program (the TAUM project = Traduction Automatique Université de Montréal) was developed in the late 70's. The reason why it works is simple: limited syntax, closed and recurrent vocabulary.

Dealing with human language, there's always a pragmatic dimension that eludes a perfect match between word and meaning. This is, in another guise, the famous thesis of the indeterminacy of translation that was pointed out by Quine.

Slang and colloquial expressions are always a dimension that is difficult to translate. It requires an extensive knowledge not only of the source language but equally of the source culture. Take for instance the word «tinto» in Spanish, when it refers to a beverage. Habitually it means: red table wine. But in one of his novel, Fragmentos de amor furtivo (1999), the colombian novelist Héctor Abad Faciolince use the word «tinto» in a part of his novel. Having to translate a fragment of this work in French, I had the following qualms about the exact meaning of the word. Does it mean «red wine» (as in standard Spanish) or does it mean «black coffe» (the colloquial and regional meaning of the word in colombian Spanish). The context of the story gave me the answer. A police inspector was in a bar and the barman offered him something to drink. The inspector declined the offer and said instead that he prefered to drink a «tinto». My problem here was the following one: according to my knowledge of Spanish «tinto» was «red wine». I couldn't understand how he could ordered red wine while he was on duty. I made some research and I found that «tinto» in Colombia was «black coffe». I had then the solution to my problem of translation. Here, as you can see, it is the context that reveals the meaning of the term «tinto». This is exactly what automated translation cannot do.

George90
02-25-07, 23:21
Great example, Sui Generis!

So, vous parlez francais? Vous habitez en Montreal? Vous etes ne en Montreal? Je me suis alle a Montreal. J'ai vu la Stade Olympique, et visite Vieux Montreal, et La Ronde. J'ai appris le francais mais je ne le parle plus. Je parle espagnol maintenant.

It is really difficult to speak in a language you haven't used in a long time.

Mr Enternational
02-25-07, 23:47
whats a good site to translate brasilian portoguese? i tried alta vista but that for regular porto not brasilian.Dictionary.com. But like everyone is saying you don't want to use it unless you already have a general idea of the language. It will basically translate word for word after which what you are trying to say will probably make no sense at all. Just remember to keep it basic and simple. (eg. where is the cat?)I can't tell you how many times guys have sent poems and the like to my Brazilian friends and they want me to translate. I tell them to just throw it away because things of that nature are language specific and the artistic meaning will not carry over in translation.

Aybolit
02-26-07, 03:20
I have a Motoroloa Razor cell phone that I want to take to South America for 3 months. Ill be visiting most of the countries on the continent, a huge chunk of time spent in Brasil. Do I need to reprogram the cell phone in every country or just buying a card for the phone with the minutes on it be sufficient? A friend of mine who works with computers claims that motorola razor is always unlocked and will work anywhere as long as i buy a card with minutes. Anyone has firsthand experience with this?

Thanx

Java Man
02-26-07, 09:21
I use several.
This one is probably the best one I've found, but it has a limit on the number of words you can translate per day. It has links to other porto-english dictionaries too. BTW, it's a French site:

http://www.lexilogos.com/portugais_langue_dictionnaires.htm

Another is:

http://freetranslation.paralink.com/

this one has recently placed a limit per day too.

and lastly:

http://www.worldlingo.com/en/products_services/worldlingo_translator.html

I also found a downloadable Porto-English dictionary/translator on the web. I installed it on my laptop that I take to Brazil. That one has many Portuguese slang words as well as words not found on online translators. And you can add words to it. I'll have to search for the that link. (It's getting very late and I need some ZZZzzz...)

Bubba Boy
02-26-07, 13:42
I have a Motoroloa Razor cell phone that I want to take to South America for 3 months. Ill be visiting most of the countries on the continent, a huge chunk of time spent in Brasil. Do I need to reprogram the cell phone in every country or just buying a card for the phone with the minutes on it be sufficient? A friend of mine who works with computers claims that motorola razor is always unlocked and will work anywhere as long as i buy a card with minutes. Anyone has firsthand experience with this?

I have several razors. If you got it with a plan in the US chances will be that it is locked. In that case you can call the cell company and tell them you need to use it outside the country and they will generally send you a code that unlocks it. They are definitely not always unlocked. You can also unlock it in south america, you can take it to a cell phone store and they will usually be able to unblock it for US20 or so.

Once it is unlocked it will work in every south american country that I know of and no you do not need to reprogram it in each country, the phone is a quad band and will automatically sought itself out. You just need to buy a pre paid cell number in each country and to add minutes. Razors are possibility the most common high end cell phone in Latin America, you see them everywhere, to people of latin america they are a major status symbol.

Java Man
02-26-07, 17:13
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go there and get the free brazilian portuguese-english dictionary download.
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they also have an online translator. (i wasn't aware of that)
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got a nokia, or sony ericcson or a smartphone?
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i'm not exactly sure how i found this site. but wow!!

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Tom Linden
03-02-07, 19:26
i've seen so many pics and heard so many stories, i cant take it anymore, thats it. i booked my flight to rio. the problem is i'm only in rio for 4 days ( i'm going to salvador next) and my plane arrives at 10:45pm, i cant find an apartment that will take me, everything is for a week. any suggestions would be great.

also i want to stay in capocabana ( close to helpee), but i'm so excited about going to 4x4 also. what bus i take to go to 4x4? i've heard taxis will walk up there and want a comission and the club will charge you extra. anyway, help me fellow mongers. i want grow and be a great monger like bubby boy, and ronny ron, you guys are my heroes.

eu estou pronto.

tom

Ee2002
03-03-07, 10:51
Tom, until you know where you are going stick with the taxis when going to centro termas(4x4,Cancun,etc). Don't worry about the terma prices because they are all set and they won't charge you extra. Unless you are going with someone who knows where they are going stay away from the buses.

Brazil Lover
03-04-07, 00:15
Tom,

Stay at a hotel. Rio Roiss is right behind the Orthon Palace, just one block from Help. Get a double room and they're girl-friendly.

El Austriaco
03-04-07, 01:27
Tom, until you know where you are going stick with the taxis when going to centro termas(4x4,Cancun,etc). Don't worry about the terma prices because they are all set and they won't charge you extra. Unless you are going with someone who knows where they are going stay away from the buses.
I agree with some of what you say, and disagree with some other info. Yes, don't take buses in Rio, but I don't think it's necessary to take a cab to go to 4 X 4. Using the Rio metro is really a piece of cake. Get off at Uruguaiana station, it's just three blocks from there. Directions: see Bubba's Guide (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=565332&postcount=43). Or if you are really confused, take a cab there the first time, get your bearings (or get a good map), and take the metro on subsequent visits. Cab fare from Copacabana to Centro runs about $20.00 each way, compared with R$ 2.25 for the metro. Big difference.

EA

RonnyRon
03-04-07, 02:55
Tom it is an honor to be mentioned in the same sentence let alone compared to the Great Bubba! Honestly I'm just a squirrel trying to get a nut or two. OK, maybe a few nuts! LOL! Enjoy your trip. Believe me it will change you for the better or ruin you forever. Me, I'm RUINED. Thanks again.

RonnyRon

Bubba Boy
03-04-07, 04:44
I actually don't monger that much any more. Sure when I am in Rio I hit the odd T, but I would guess I would only do maybe 10 -15 different girls there in a year. A great monger, me? I don't think so. There are many on this board that would do 10-15 girls in 2 weeks.....but I am happy with the odd "nut" or 2 that I get away once in a while.

Euro100
03-04-07, 17:39
I actually don't monger that much any more. Sure when I am in Rio I hit the odd T, but I would guess I would only do maybe 10 -15 different girls there in a year. A great monger, me? I don't think so. There are many on this board that would do 10-15 girls in 2 weeks.....but I am happy with the odd "nut" or 2 that I get away once in a while.

... it is not at all important how many pops you produce per year. It's what you do when you get a chance to get away to do some mongering, and it's how you record it for your fellow mongers. That's what separates the great ones from the average punter.

As you know, I lobbied Jackson to give your BubbaGuide its own thread. You are a hero for many of us, and your fanclub definitely includes me. Your guide has made you a legend, man!

euro

Ryjerrob
03-05-07, 05:25
Despite our disagreement, you're still my hero. When I grow up, I wanna be just like you.

Ryjer

Prosal
03-05-07, 11:57
stay away from buses.

Come on. MILLIONS of Cariocas and Fluminenses take buses each day. Are we mongers or pussies ?

I took the bus in Rio hundreds of times, not only in Zona Sul and Centro, but also in Meier, in Tijuca, to Duque de Caxias, to Nova Iguacu, in Niteroi, ect. Nothing never happened, save socialization with willing meninas ... and a bit of anxiety when the driver was obviously a kind of unrecognized Ayrton Senna.

Also is there a better playground on a sat afternoon than a crumbling bus FULL packed with brasilian girls 'dressed' with tiny shorts and bikinis on their way to/from the beach ?

SlickdySlick
03-05-07, 17:02
Dudes,

If you are freaked out by the Buses just take a cab it really does matter. If your manhood is in the balance if you take the bus in Rio or not you got other problems.

Ee2002
03-05-07, 23:53
Don't get me wrong I prefer to take the metro or bus( also van when I can). I don't take a taxi unless I really have to (usually at night or when I'm in a rush), that being said my comments were directed at someone who appeared to be a newbie and did not know where he was going.If you are new and probably don't speak the lang, the bus may not be a good idea, at least til you know what and where the hell your going. In centro its easy to make a wrong turn and find yourself wandering aimlessly amongst the crowds. The street signs are not all clearly posted everywhere you go.

Sui Generis
03-06-07, 00:00
Since the end of February, just after the Carnival, there's new street signs (placas) in São Paulo

http://oglobo.globo.com/sp/transito/mat/2007/02/26/294707291.asp

Bubba Boy
03-06-07, 00:04
I find taxis the least safe means of transport in Rio. The reason, if you have an accident and it is likely by the way the traffic moves, you will surely die. The taxis use the cheapest, crappiest cars on the planet with no safety features what so ever. In an accident a taxi would be split open like a beer can and the passengers would stand no chance.

I tend to find the metro the safest, easiest way to travel.

Prosal
03-06-07, 18:15
I tend to find the metro the safest, easiest way to travel.

When the Linha 1 will extend to Ipanema (a station is planned Praca General Osorio I think), then it will be REALLY convenient.

Bubba Boy
03-06-07, 18:51
I think you are right, I believe they are going to extend it up to general osario and they have a couple of stations scheduled even past it. Judging by how long it has taken to get the newest station (near Rua Bolivar) up and running, at least 3 years after S Campos station and it is not quite finished, the station at general Osario has to be a few years off unfortunately.

RonnyRon
03-07-07, 06:08
I noticed some guys are getting into Rio at odd hours (10:45PM or 4:15A.M), so I take it you must be flying Copa airlines. True? If, so please be sure and write something about your experience with them. Their prices are great and you arrive in Rio on the same day you start flying, since they fly through Panama. Thanks.

RR

Tom Linden
03-09-07, 04:57
Tom,

Stay at a hotel. Rio Roiss is right behind the Orthon Palace, just one block from Help. Get a double room and they're girl-friendly.Brazil Lover,

Whats the info on Rio Rioss? address, Numbers, I cant find it on Internet. Or any nice 1 bedroom apt. thats girl friendly for 4 days in Rio. Thanks for your help.

Tom

El Austriaco
03-09-07, 13:42
I noticed some guys are getting into Rio at odd hours (10:45PM or 4:15A.M), so I take it you must be flying Copa airlines. True? If, so please be sure and write something about your experience with them. Their prices are great and you arrive in Rio on the same day you start flying, since they fly through Panama. Thanks.

RR
I have flown Copa on various occasions, though not to Rio (twice to the Dominican Republic and once to Ecuador). Nothing special, but nothing worse than flying other airlines, and connecting in Panama City works well for me (and it is a rather small airport, despite the fact that they promote it as the hub of the Americas). I say go for it.

EA

Voyajer1
03-09-07, 13:56
I noticed some guys are getting into Rio at odd hours (10:45PM or 4:15A.M), so I take it you must be flying Copa airlines. True? If, so please be sure and write something about your experience with them. Their prices are great and you arrive in Rio on the same day you start flying, since they fly through Panama. Thanks.

RRI have used Copa Airlines everytime I travel to Brazil. They are affiliated with Continental Airlines and provide full service (Meals, drinks, etc.). You can't go wrong with them; they are all over South america through heir gateway in Panama City. The also sell South American passes for those who like sampling a few other destinations. I usually go first to Sao Paolo; they get you there early on the day (8:15pm), this way I hit the ground running, if you know what I mean :-).

Delecti
03-09-07, 14:04
Bubba et al,

Do I understand correctly? That the metro station at Rua Bolivar is open, but not cosmetically done. Or is it opening soon? Heading down next week and since I'm staying in Ipa. It would be more convenient. Thanks in advance for any info.

Delecti

RonnyRon
03-10-07, 00:38
I just booked my ticket. You guy should check it out!

RR

El Austriaco
03-10-07, 04:33
Do I understand correctly? That the metro station at Rua Bolivar is open, but not cosmetically done. Or is it opening soon?

Delecti
The next station past Siqueira Campos in the direction towards Ipanema, Cantagalo, seems to be open finally, yes:

http://www.metrorio.com.br/cantagalo.htm

The website is in English, too (though they haven't updated it yet for the new station, apparently).

Access No 1

Praça Eugênio Jardim (at the corner with Rua Miguel Lemos)

Access No 2

Rua Xavier da Silveira (at the corner with Rua Barata Ribeiro)

Hours of Operation:

Working days: until midnight
Saturdays: until midnight
Sundays and holidays: until 11:00 PM

EA

Lonzof
03-10-07, 05:44
I just booked my ticket. You guy should check it out!

RR

RR,

Hope you received an excellent rate. I checked and everything from Chi was more than grand. Happen to get an Advantage Mile ticket after buying a few miles. Total price $557.00.

Amerioca
03-10-07, 13:39
RR,

Hope you received an excellent rate. I checked and everything from Chi was more than grand. Happen to get an Advantage Mile ticket after buying a few miles. Total price $557.00.

That is a great deal. I just bought mine for $870 total. I'm flying from SNA aka John Wayne.

RonnyRon
03-11-07, 04:18
Hey Lonzof,

In my haste to book my ticket, I picked the wrong month! I booked a ticket for this month and I was really proud of myself until I looked at the email notification. Price was $819.00 total from LAX. I call AA a switched the month to next month. Cost me an additional $166.00. Damn, one less terma run. LOL. Oh well, that's life. Still glad to be heading home.

RR

Bill1963
03-11-07, 05:52
hello guys,

new to this forum, but have been to brazil a number of times

i am thinking of moving half the year to brazil and the only thing holding me back is my business

i am currently day trading in the stock market through e-trade canada

i am curious if there is a discount trader in brazil (like e-trade) so that i could trade in the canadian and american markets? maybe itau' or unibanco has one?

any you guys trade stocks while in brazil?

does the high speed internet in brazil work good enough so i can trade in my canadian brokerage account.

any help or input would be greatly appreciated.

thanks

bill

Off Road
03-11-07, 14:05
That is a great deal. I just bought mine for $870 total. I'm flying from SNA aka John Wayne.
I fly to/from SNA also, but my stays are long and that drives up the prices. I had just checked and gotten a $1400 ticket, but did not book, I will try again.
Did you call or use the web?

Vwhite
03-11-07, 17:16
I fly to/from SNA also, but my stays are long and that drives up the prices. I had just checked and gotten a $1400 ticket, but did not book, I will try again.
Did you call or use the web?This is a really good website for reduced fares abroad.

www.flycheapabroad.com

Plot your departare city and destination a see what you guys come up with.

Pana Nyc
03-11-07, 17:21
RR,

Hope you received an excellent rate. I checked and everything from Chi was more than grand. Happen to get an Advantage Mile ticket after buying a few miles. Total price $557.00.
Shit I paid $676 on Delta out of NYC to Rio, I had miles to burn but AA wanted 60,000-100,000 the time I wanted to go and thats atleast 2 trip's to Rio or 2-4 trips somewhere else.

Vwhite
03-11-07, 17:43
Shit I paid $676 on Delta out of NYC to Rio, I had miles to burn but AA wanted 60,000-100,000 the time I wanted to go and thats atleast 2 trip's to Rio or 2-4 trips somewhere else.This is a really good website for reduced fares abroad.

www.flycheapabroad.com

Plot your departare city and destination a see what you guys come up with.

The Watcher
03-12-07, 07:32
This is a really good website for reduced fares abroad.

www.flycheapabroad.com

Plot your departare city and destination a see what you guys come up with.

Another good site is www.bacctravel.com

Amerioca
03-12-07, 10:12
I fly to/from SNA also, but my stays are long and that drives up the prices. I had just checked and gotten a $1400 ticket, but did not book, I will try again.
Did you call or use the web?

My last three tickets were purchased from http://www.allcheapfares.com/ Very competitive rates, simple reservation process, straight-forward. Nothing bad can be said about them.

Wild Cherokee
03-12-07, 13:14
I swear by the following two:

IMHO, the best website to use is www.sidestep.com

I've used several websites when comparison shopping. It appears as if sidestep.com always edges out the others. It beats some websites by as much as USD $100.00 and others by USD $10 to USD $20.

BACC travel has the best "contract" discounts. They have negotiated discounts with the major carriers which allow them to sometimes beat the website fares. You have to call them though to get the best rates and confirm availability. Be prepared for sub-par service when you call. A lot of holds and transfers. Ask for Mrs. Gomez She is the best IMO.

WC

Wild Cherokee
03-12-07, 13:23
I forgot to mention that I've never paid more than USD $745 (total) round trip. My best price was USD $635. I always fly from EWR or JFK (which usually have higher rates than other airports). I've never used any miles either. Always book through either BACC or Sidestep.

WC

Latin Bound
03-12-07, 13:32
My last three tickets were purchased from http://www.allcheapfares.com/ Very competitive rates, simple reservation process, straight-forward. Nothing bad can be said about them.cheapoair.com is always a good option also

Bravo
03-12-07, 16:22
I forgot to mention that I've never paid more than USD $745 (total) round trip. My best price was USD $635. I always fly from EWR or JFK (which usually have higher rates than other airports). I've never used any miles either. Always book through either BACC or Sidestep.

WC

Hey WC, how did you come out on the mileage issue? I used www.bacctravel.com in the past and unfortunately, Continental only applied 50% of the mileage toward my elite account. Which meant I would have had to fly 10 times before I would have had enough miles, for a free ticket!!

George90
03-12-07, 16:23
hello guys,

new to this forum, but have been to brazil a number of times

i am thinking of moving half the year to brazil and the only thing holding me back is my business

i am currently day trading in the stock market through e-trade canada

i am curious if there is a discount trader in brazil (like e-trade) so that i could trade in the canadian and american markets? maybe itau' or unibanco has one?

any you guys trade stocks while in brazil?

does the high speed internet in brazil work good enough so i can trade in my canadian brokerage account.

any help or input would be greatly appreciated.

thanks

bill

through the magic of the internet, you can do anything in brazil that you do in north america! i check my stocks via theinternet while in brazil. i haven't made any trades while there but i am able to. i have accessed my work email and done some 'work'. your biggest problem with stock trades will be the time difference.

Benjoe
03-12-07, 20:31
Hey WC, how did you come out on the mileage issue? I used www.bacctravel.com in the past and unfortunately, Continental only applied 50% of the mileage toward my elite account. Which meant I would have had to fly 10 times before I would have had enough miles, for a free ticket!!Deeply discounted tickets (aside from those bought through CO's website) only get 50% elite status miles.

Cho 637
03-13-07, 08:58
RR,

Hope you received an excellent rate. I checked and everything from Chi was more than grand. Happen to get an Advantage Mile ticket after buying a few miles. Total price $557.00.I just booked on AA from Chi with less than 1 week before I leave and got $839 tax included. This is on their website under net fares. The base price is $735. Also Bacctravel had delta for $766 tax included.

Cachorro
03-14-07, 22:14
Young chess prodigy runs away, lives with stripper

By Tom Hennigan in Sao Paulo

A CHESS prodigy who ran away and hooked an exotic dancer almost twice his age has returned home to a hero's welcome after a teenage adventure that took him to Brazil's hotspots.

It all began when Emilio Cordova, a 15-year-old international master from Peru, was crowned South American chess champion in January after winning a tournament in the Argentine city of Cordoba.

Instead of returning to Lima, he told relatives he was heading to Brazil to compete in tournaments there in a push to reach the rank of international grandmaster.

But far from focusing on his grandmaster dreams, Emilio quickly became caught up in Sao Paulo's pulsating and sleazy nightlife.

He formed a relationship with a single Brazilian mother, Adriane Oliveira, 29, dubbed the "Bella Brasileira" by the Peruvian media, with whom he soon fell in love.

Ms Oliveira works in Love Story, a hot city club where young Emilio took to spending his nights dancing.

To fund his Brazilian sojourn, he told his family he had fallen ill and needed them to wire out money to pay for medical expenses. He even sold his laptop computer, which contained all his chess notes and training programs.

As weeks turned into months, Emilio's family became worried about him, and the Peruvian media went to Brazil to find out what had happened to the young chess genius.

When they found him, Emilio insisted he had not abandoned the game, but was just taking a break. "I play chess, study chess, but this doesn't mean I can't enjoy myself," he said.

"I'm young and I want to do this. I have to live. To be locked up in my room all the time depresses me."

After tracing his son, his father set out to bring him back home. At first Emilio was adamant he would not leave Brazil, and the Peruvian Foreign Ministry had to ask the Sao Paulo police to prevent the boy leaving the city before his father arrived.

Emilio now says Ms Oliveira was just one of several girlfriends he had in Sao Paulo, and that far from being a callgirl, as portrayed in the Peruvian media, she works for an organisation "dedicated to putting on shows and charity events like telethons".

He blames his father for the media storm, saying: "Private is private, and personal life is personal life. But if my father decides to air it, what can I do?"

The Times

Cachorro
03-14-07, 22:17
Oh and if by some chance Emilio, the guy in the story, reads this forum...?

I have one thing to say to you.

"High five!"

El Austriaco
03-14-07, 22:58
Oh and if by some chance Emilio, the guy in the story, reads this forum...?

I have one thing to say to you.

"High five!"
Or to use the words Colin Quinn, ex-SNL Weekend Update host, had to say to the 13-year old kid in the States a few years ago, who managed to fuck his HS teacher in a widely publicized scandal.

"Mary Kay LeTourneau, the teacher who had sex with a 13-year-old boy, was arrested after she was found with him in a car. The teacher will be sent back to prison, and the boy is enjoying his highest approval rating ever....Kid!...Let me talk to this kid. Kid! You're too young to realize it now, but you're doin' good! You're doin' real good! I don't know how you carry yourself, how you dress, but whatever you're doin', keep doin' it. You're doin' all right for 13....I know, it's...touching. Um...!"

Good on you, Emilio! ;)

EA

RonnyRon
03-15-07, 20:36
I need some help guys. Has anyone ever used Eduardo Sadicoff to rent an apartment? Thanks.

RR

Trippleecks
03-16-07, 11:21
Lot's of wannabe rental guys popping up in Rio these days. Never heard of that one but I would feel better using one of the long time, well established guys, like Don, Kenn, John etc.. at least you know who you are dealing with.

Checkedout this guys website which is just a blog.. no prices on any apartments, no photos of his apartments, nothing... why?

Lonzof
03-18-07, 20:46
Hey Lonzof,

In my haste to book my ticket, I picked the wrong month! I booked a ticket for this month and I was really proud of myself until I looked at the email notification. Price was $819.00 total from LAX. I call AA a switched the month to next month. Cost me an additional $166.00. Damn, one less terma run. LOL. Oh well, that's life. Still glad to be heading home.

RR


RR,

Glad to hear that you are returning to Rio. Unfortunately, we won't be there at the same time since I will be in Rio May 20-26. Would have been nice to treat you to garota & cabine at your favorite termas. Next time.

Lonzo

P.S. I'm bugeted to do 21 garotas in 6 days, but I know all that azz will wear down this 40 yr old body by the third day. I can't wait to get tired. 61 days and counting.

Later

RonnyRon
03-19-07, 00:15
I was able to verify Eduardo Sadicoff is the real deal. Not sure that I will be using him, since I am getting better offers everyday.

Lonzof- I will take you up on your offer at 4X4 one day soon. Have a great time. Don' t forget to get some photos of all that ass.

Nodd_N - None of the people you mentioned have prices on their websites and Eduardo Sadicoff's blog does have pictures of 40+ apartments. Since I could verify him as being the real deal, I am putting him on BLAST here: http://eduardoriobrazil.spaces.live.com/ .You might want to advise the old guard to start posting prices again, because the competition is ON! Fewer tourist from America are going down and that is good for us vets and the newbies to.

Bacon Butty
03-19-07, 11:24
Guys,

Just a few questions: I'm going to Rio in the fall to stay with a hot Brazillian I met in Prague last week. She's offering me a free place to stay and is pretty loaded so as long as I don't [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) her off I have free accomodation. However flights from Europe seem insanely expensive. Outside of Iberia are there any others who are worth checking out for value? Then if she kicks me out or I leave how much am I looking at paying per night for a 1 man appartment near the beach? How much per day spending money do I need excluding pussy and accomodation? Just for food, transport and beer. Not sure what to expect really even though i've read 3 whole threads on here. Obviously need some Portuguese and a sense of adventure :D What do they eat over there? Do they have European style seafood restaurants near the beach where you can chill with a bottle of cold beer and some paella?

Rio Rio
03-19-07, 19:32
I was wondering about Barberellas, what is the lay out. I mean when you walk in do you pay an entrance fee? If so how much? Do you get a table or is it like help , where you just walk around. If you see a nice lady do you pay a bar fine to take her out or do you get a room there? As far as a bar fine, do you pay it at the bar or where do you pay it and how much is it?

Thanks

Cachorro
03-19-07, 19:48
Guys,

Just a few questions: I'm going to Rio in the fall to stay with a hot Brazillian I met in Prague last week. She's offering me a free place to stay and is pretty loaded so as long as I don't [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) her off I have free accomodation. However flights from Europe seem insanely expensive. Outside of Iberia are there any others who are worth checking out for value? Then if she kicks me out or I leave how much am I looking at paying per night for a 1 man appartment near the beach? How much per day spending money do I need excluding pussy and accomodation? Just for food, transport and beer. Not sure what to expect really even though i've read 3 whole threads on here. Obviously need some Portuguese and a sense of adventure :D What do they eat over there? Do they have European style seafood restaurants near the beach where you can chill with a bottle of cold beer and some paella?
Check out TAP Portugal first, then maybe Alitalia, Air France / KLM.

You won't find paella, but you will get a lot of rice and black beans if that turns you on. Brazilian food is pretty unsophisticated. You will get great BBQed meats and fruit juices though.

Rio can be a little expensive for accommodation (though you can stand the prices for sure if you live in Western Europe). Once you leave Rio and get out to the smaller beach towns you can chill out for a lot cheaper, but the p4p is harder to find.

Dutch44
03-19-07, 19:49
Guys,

Just a few questions: I'm going to Rio in the fall to stay with a hot Brazillian I met in Prague last week. She's offering me a free place to stay and is pretty loaded so as long as I don't [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) her off I have free accomodation. However flights from Europe seem insanely expensive. Outside of Iberia are there any others who are worth checking out for value? Hi Bacon,

I usually fly with KLM/Air France. They have flights from Paris to Rio for about 800 to 850 euro, if you reserve 1 or 2 months ahead that is.

Dutch44

Jan 156
03-20-07, 06:53
I have a Motoroloa Razor cell phone that I want to take to South America for 3 months. Ill be visiting most of the countries on the continent, a huge chunk of time spent in Brasil. Do I need to reprogram the cell phone in every country or just buying a card for the phone with the minutes on it be sufficient? A friend of mine who works with computers claims that motorola razor is always unlocked and will work anywhere as long as i buy a card with minutes. Anyone has firsthand experience with this?

Thanx


Mind that nice phones are popular targets. I've had a Nokia stolen in broad daylight. Currently I take a smartphone for use in the apartment with all the software, then the cheapest nastiest phone I've got to carry around, with a Brasil SIM card in it.

Pipe Layer99
03-20-07, 08:19
Guys,

Just a few questions: I'm going to Rio in the fall to stay with a hot Brazillian I met in Prague last week. She's offering me a free place to stay and is pretty loaded so as long as I don't [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) her off I have free accomodation. However flights from Europe seem insanely expensive. Outside of Iberia are there any others who are worth checking out for value? Then if she kicks me out or I leave how much am I looking at paying per night for a 1 man appartment near the beach? How much per day spending money do I need excluding pussy and accomodation? Just for food, transport and beer. Not sure what to expect really even though i've read 3 whole threads on here. Obviously need some Portuguese and a sense of adventure :D What do they eat over there? Do they have European style seafood restaurants near the beach where you can chill with a bottle of cold beer and some paella?

Hello and welocome to the board. If your girl is hot, I certainly hope you won't end up pissing her off. Free ass for a week. Be good, be very good. Now as far as accomodations, you can find a decent apt for about $45 U.S. a day. Breakfast is cheap, around $5 and you can grab dinner at a Kilo restaurant for about $9. Transportation is cheap. Beer - consider it the same as any other place. However if you go to some of the small corner bars away from the beach the beers are really cheap about $1.

Now leats say you do get kicked out, or better yet, decide to leave on your own - you can go get your own apt and then do all the other things you can do with her around. Like meet new girls, visit a Termas, hit a club ..........
So it depends on how long you book your plane ticket for.

I'd go for at least 2 weeks. Tell her you are staying for about a week. Then if all is well, tell her you will extend. If you get the boot, get your apt, and go have fun. Win - Win situation.

Have fun and be sure to post a report. Donnie

Bacon Butty
03-20-07, 09:28
I was thinking months rather than weeks. I can have my fun during the day when she works. As a lawyer I imagine she works long and hard hours and the job won't be just around the corner from her house. My plan was to be out down the beach and maybe get some beach girls in pay by the hour appartments and then go home and take her out so I get a break or otherwise to fuck her brains out if I have no luck elsewhere. I usually wouldn't do this sort of thing but she seems a really nice person with a super hot body so would be bareable. If the whinging starts then I go.

Dutch those prices seem fairly similar to Iberia. How do flgith times compare?

Beer and accomodation actually appear to be more than i'd expect for a developing country. I've been living in Prague for the last month and an appartment there is significantly cheaper. You're looking at $400 a month for a one man. And the beer's only 18kc which I think is around $0.80. Still look forward to it for the adventure. Have never ventured outside of Europe and North America before.

Dutch44
03-20-07, 17:26
Dutch those prices seem fairly similar to Iberia. How do flgith times compare?I believe the airplane leaves from Paris to Rio around 23h00 at night. You arrive pretty early in Rio around 06h00 in the morning. I usually take Air France from where ever I am (Amsterdam, Frankfurt etc.) to Paris and then on to Rio. So you check in your luggage only once. From Paris to Rio it is one direct flight pf about 11 hours, but you can sleep in the airplane, because you fly during the night.


Still look forward to it for the adventure. Have never ventured outside of Europe and North America before.Please know that Rio is a completely different place from Europe and USA in terms of security. Whereas in Europe you are safe almost everywhere, in Rio you will be seen by some as a target. It is quite easy to get robbed there, so just be careful and read the tips from this forum regarding safety. However the women there (the Garotas) are quite something. You will not be disappointed. I do advise to learn portuguese though.

Dutch44

Shemp
03-21-07, 05:59
I travel to rio usually 4 times a year for 8 or 9 days so I was wondering if it would be cost-effective to purchase a cellphone in rio & buy minutes each time I arrive on another trip. I've been renting a phone for $5 usd a day & want to save money in the long-run. How & where would I go about doing this in Copacabana? I can only speak pimsleur level 2 portuguese so I'm not sure I can handle the verbal side of doing this transaction.

Shemp

Java Man
03-21-07, 07:26
shemp:
I travel to Rio as much as you do, and stay as long as you do, usually. (Starting my 6th yr to Rio next month.)
Cell phones, like most electronics, are expensive in Rio. I bought an unlocked Motorola Razr, cause it's a world phone, here in the US. (Search on Ebay or Google for unlocked world cell phones.)
www.celluloco.com is another site for unlocked phones. They even tell you if the phone will work with the cell carrier in the country you visit. FYI, they sell gray market phones.
The Razr cost me around $200. You may be able to find a cheaper unlocked world phone.
I then went to Rio Sul and bought a SIM chip for $10. Easiest way is this: Since you go to Rio frequently, I assume you've made friends. Use them when buying the Sim Chip as they require local information to buy the chip. If you don't want to go that route, there are some shops that will sell the SIM card as long as you provide them with your passport info. (Search this forum for that info.)
You can get a SIM card for Oi, Vivo and TIM. Then just buy minutes at any newsstand.
If no minutes are bought within a 120 period, (if I remember correctly) you lose the number. You'll need to contact the cell company if you plan on making international calls, as that feature will be disabled.

Mr Enternational
03-21-07, 08:08
With Claro you have 150 days to add credits before you lose your number. And you don't have to contact the company before making an international call. But at any rate, like Chingon said, go on ebay and buy the cheapest world phone you see if you only want it for Brazil and are not going to use it at home.

Mangera
03-22-07, 00:04
What the hell is happenning to the dollar? 2.05 R Hope this trend does not continue.

MrLowDown
03-22-07, 03:09
What the hell is happenning to the dollar? 2.05 R Hope this trend does not continue.Unfortunatley Mangera, the dollar is expected drop another 30% by the end of 2008. To add insult to injury, the Real is rising like crazy. It has out performed every other currency against the dollar. Brazil is headed out of a 3rd world economy and into a 1st world economy. Don't be surprised if you see the Real and Dollar at a 1-1 ratio by 2009. By 2010, the Real could be worth more than the dollar. Will it stop? Most likely not, US companies love the low value of the dollar because in essence it makes them much more competitive in the global market. Our stuff becomes cheaper to make. And as a result is much cheaper when it reaches market. Brazil will try hard to keep the dollar/real above 2 to 1 by reserving large amounts of dollars. What's even worse, is that the dollar is quickly losing it's luster on the global market and countries are moving their reserves out of dollars and into other currencies like the euro and yen. That's ok Magera, We all know you have big pockets. This is not a problem for you!

My friend and I sometimes bring Brazil to us. We find educated Brasileiras that can get a US Visa. Pay for their ticket to Vegas, and have a party for a week or so. The flight from Brazil to the US has been considerably cheaper recently. We don't pay the girls directly. But kick out a lot of cheese the plane ticke, on dinners. Partyings. Etc.

Bubba Boy
03-22-07, 14:56
The current Brazilian finance mininster has said that he would prefer to see the Real at around 2.5. At the current level exports are hurting. Exports are the only thing adding to economic growth in Brazil. Economic growth has been quite low over the last few years, averaging 2-4%, not that great for a developing country. If you took out exports the figure would be negative. Hence the Brazilian economy, while better than it has been over the last 2 decades, isn't doing as well as one thinks. Yes people with money have made a killing on the stockmarket, but Brazils rich upper class has always made money, even when the economy has been in a free fall. Stockmarkets are booming in many developing countries but this is not going to happen for ever, after every boom there is a bust/correction, we are over due for a correction in the next 1 or 2.

While it is true that exports are making the real, which is overvalued in many peoples opinion, high interest rates in Brazil are sucking in cash. Overnight cash rates are 20% per annun. Even a normal local bank account pays 1.8% per month. This is the real reason why the real has strenthened so much, many large financial institutions park cash in the Real because it is such a high yielding currency. The same institutions are parking cash into the Brazilian stockmarket. When you see the Brazilian stockmarket fall, the currency falls. The money tends to flow out after a bump in the stockmarket Hence, financial markets influence the currency even more so than export/imports.

What is my point? Well it is true one could find a dozen economists to back up the opinion below, the more popular consensus is that once the boom in the brazilian stockmarket ends or interest rates drop, the real will drop against the dollar. Probably settle in the 2.5 range.

I stated my opinion not to say the opinion stated below is wrong, one can always find many intelligent people to say the real will continue to strengthen, I just believe the more popular opinion is saying the real is at or near is peak and the next major movement should see the real weaken over the medium term.

I will say one thing which is not going to happen that was stated below. Brazil is not going to be a first world economy any time soon. That would require 20 years of economic growth of at least 5%-10% per annun. This is not happening now and doesn't look like happening in the future.

Monger 3
03-22-07, 16:25
I will say one thing which is not going to happen that was stated below. Brazil is not going to be a first world economy any time soon.

Its easy to envision Brazil as a first world nation when looking at parts of Rio, SP or visiting cities like Curitiba in the South. However, as Bubba mentioned...much of the growth is export (commodities) driven, and has had little trickle down effect on poor masses or internal commerce and development. For example, the Northeast states (including Para) have over +30% of the national population and a GNP per capital of half the national average. Rio has over 1mm people living in total poverty and SP has even more...Brazil may be headed to 2nd world status, but I'll die before it hits 1st world (and I am not 30yrs old...).

First world nations have robust intra-national trade and commerce, consumption, and development...which Brazil lacks (with +30% of population in abject poverty). The middle class in Brazil is getting squeezed and the poor class is not shrinking fast enough...I say that at first sight of a change in the risk premium global investors are ascribing to emerging markets or US credit markets (which is currently non-existent), run for the exits...the real will definitely fall in that case...The real will hit 2.5 before 1.5 in my view, in the current state of the world.

Mr Enternational
03-22-07, 17:32
Is second world status still a used term? That was usually reserved for the old U.S.S.R. and might have included China too. I think that now it just jumps from first to third.


Brazil may be headed to 2nd world status, but I'll die before it hits 1st world (and I am not 30yrs old...).

Alex Deuce
03-22-07, 18:46
The current Brazilian finance mininster has said that he would prefer to see the Real at around 2. 5. At the current level exports are hurting. Exports are the only thing adding to economic growth in Brazil. Economic growth has been quite low over the last few years, averaging 2-4%, not that great for a developing country. If you took out exports the figure would be negative. Hence the Brazilian economy, while better than it has been over the last 2 decades, isn't doing as well as one thinks. Yes people with money have made a killing on the stockmarket, but Brazils rich upper class has always made money, even when the economy has been in a free fall. Stockmarkets are booming in many developing countries but this is not going to happen for ever, after every boom there is a bust/correction, we are over due for a correction in the next 1 or 2.

While it is true that exports are making the real, which is overvalued in many peoples opinion, high interest rates in Brazil are sucking in cash. Overnight cash rates are 20% per annun. Even a normal local bank account pays 1. 8% per month. This is the real reason why the real has strenthened so much, many large financial institutions park cash in the Real because it is such a high yielding currency. The same institutions are parking cash into the Brazilian stockmarket. When you see the Brazilian stockmarket fall, the currency falls. The money tends to flow out after a bump in the stockmarket Hence, financial markets influence the currency even more so than export/imports.

What is my point? Well it is true one could find a dozen economists to back up the opinion below, the more popular consensus is that once the boom in the brazilian stockmarket ends or interest rates drop, the real will drop against the dollar. Probably settle in the 2. 5 range.

I stated my opinion not to say the opinion stated below is wrong, one can always find many intelligent people to say the real will continue to strengthen, I just believe the more popular opinion is saying the real is at or near is peak and the next major movement should see the real weaken over the medium term.

I will say one thing which is not going to happen that was stated below. Brazil is not going to be a first world economy any time soon. That would require 20 years of economic growth of at least 5%-10% per annun. This is not happening now and doesn't look like happening in the future. The above assumes that the American Economy does not go into a recession. All currencies are gaining on the US Dollar, due to the precieved and actual weakness of the US Economy. The extreme trade imbalances and deficit spending is severly weakening the percieved value of the US economy. Remember, there is no gold behind that Dollar. Its all percieved net worth of the country.

Brazil's economy will continue to grow at 3-4% clip as long as they keep the current presidents economic policies in place. Regardless of what happens with the US Dollar. The high export are not going to the US. They are going to China to fuel its economic growth. The only entities that could curtail Brazils Growth is the World bank and a slow down in China.

We can argue and bring in this economist and that economist all day, but the truth is that the rest of the world is catching up with the US. Bring me one scrap of data saying how strong the economy is and I could bring you the remainder of the report and six other reports countering your argument. The US has a large problem that is not being address by IDIOT BUSH nor the us Congress. Damn shame when a Black Man says he misses Newt Genwitch and Real Republicans.

George90
03-23-07, 00:07
I don't see the dollar falling to 1-1 against the real. In fact, I can see the dollar rising to 3 and against the euro and yen as well.

Why? Well, it depends on who we elect as our new president in 2008. If we elect another idiot, then we can expect more of the same. If we elect someone who is willing to raise taxes on the ultra-rich, get our budget deficit down, get our trade deficit in line, stabilize the economy so we don't get serial bubbles, and regain US credibilty in the world, then exchange rates will improve in our favor.

Are we up to the challenge?

Bubba Boy
03-23-07, 04:10
George, I would vote you for President with one exception, you have way to much common sense and way to many sensible policies. It would seem you need to have none of these qualities if you wish to be President of the largest economy in the world.

MrLowDown
03-23-07, 17:30
Does anybody know if brazil has any laws that allows citizens to legally cary concealed weapons. Can Visitors carry concealed weapons?

Mr Enternational
03-24-07, 07:23
Man you are a hoot. Brazil just had a big vote last year about OWNING weapons and you are talking about carrying one concealed? Yeah if you have a death wish. Why would a person even dream about doing that with all the trigger happy police with their index finger in place ready to squeeze one off? And even if it was possible for a citizen to do it, if you are not a citizen how could you expect to have the same rights and privys as a citizen? The Secret Service has to fight tooth and nail in most countries they go to to carry their weapons with the president. It should not even cross the average Joe's mind.

Note: you never said you wanted to; you just asked a question.


Does anybody know if brazil has any laws that allows citizens to legally cary concealed weapons. Can Visitors carry concealed weapons?

The Watcher
03-24-07, 17:04
Does anybody know if brazil has any laws that allows citizens to legally cary concealed weapons. Can Visitors carry concealed weapons?

Based on info from a Brasilian friend in Rio,

1. there are two types of permits for citizens: one for the home and one for carry; and

2. a regular monger visitor cannot legally possess a firearm.

The following actually happened to an American who has permanent resident status:

He checked in at the Rio airport for a flight to somewhere in Brasil. He had a gun in his checked luggage. The screeners found the gun. The police immediately took him to jail.

The moral - under no circumstances should a visitor illegally carry a gun in Brasil.

Lonzof
03-24-07, 21:32
Does anybody know if brazil has any laws that allows citizens to legally cary concealed weapons. Can Visitors carry concealed weapons?

Pretty stupid question. Why in hell would any foreigner want to carry a gun in Brazil. If you are that afraid, in my opinion cowards carry guns, just stay in the US or where ever country you reside. We don't need or welcome that BS where we play.
I'm out... please grow up. The world is not a video game!

Jan 156
03-24-07, 23:00
Its easy to envision Brazil as a first world nation when looking at parts of Rio, SP or visiting cities like Curitiba in the South. ...Brazil may be headed to 2nd world status, but I'll die before it hits 1st world (and I am not 30yrs old...).

One of my Carioca friends describes Brasil as "a third world country pretending to be a first world country" <g>

MrLowDown
03-25-07, 04:12
You guys jumped the "gun". I never said I planned to carry a gun in brazil. How would I get a gun on the plane and through customs? Anyway, I was just wondering if citizens had a legal way to protect themselves against all the violence.

The Watcher
03-25-07, 15:24
How would I get a gun on the plane and through customs?

I have a friend who had a loaded gun in his checked luggage on his flight from the USA to Brasil. He did not intentionally do this - he forgot that the gun was there.

When he discovered the gun in Brasil, he immediately destroyed the gun.

It is scary to know that you can still put things in checked luggage that can escape detection. I hope this incident was an isolated occurrence and not an indication of the general lack of security on checked luggage.

Bubba Boy
03-25-07, 19:36
There has been many documentaries on this. Generally a news crew sees how much stuff they can get through security. The last one I saw on CNN they got 80% of everything they tried through security, including a load gun on carry on luggage, thats right, not checked but carry on! Knives and sharp weapons were virtually undetected.

Pipe Layer99
03-25-07, 22:14
Does anybody know if brazil has any laws that allows citizens to legally cary concealed weapons. Can Visitors carry concealed weapons?


MLD,

I know you were only asking a question. Some have jumped on you/your question - while others simply answered the legal question as no.

If you are going to ask a question like that on any forum, at least explain 'why' you are asking. This way you will avoid all the heat you are bound to get. Plus, had you told us why you were asking, you would narrow the responses to your inquiry to more direct answers.

My 2 cents. Donnie

RxHammer
03-26-07, 09:28
FI,

78 trillion ??? That's alot cash. I'm no W. fan but it's the Gang of 535 that spends the cash, not the Prez.

Gotta throw the bumbs out before they completely bankrupt the country......Oops, too late !! Too bad because the dollar will continue to founder due to the fiscal criminals in congress and that cuts deep into every mongers pocket, at home and abroad.

Time to leave the USA for greener pastures (never thought I'd say such a thing, truly sad)

Hammer

George90
03-26-07, 15:56
78 trillion ??? That's alot cash. I'm no W. fan but it's the Gang of 535 that spends the cash, not the Prez.

I guess you don't know that the PRESIDENT must sign a spending bill in order for the tax money to actually be spent. Bush is just as responsible for the deficit as Congress. The only way he gets off the hook is if he vetoes and Congress overrides the veto.

That has not happened yet.




Time to leave the USA for greener pastures (never thought I'd say such a thing, truly sad)

Hammer

You are correct on that point. I am hoping I can swing retiring outside the US when the time comes. The US housing report for February came out this morning. I am really feeling for people who put their life savings into an overpriced home, took out second mortages to get cash from any equity they built up, and are now hurting over the huge decline in home sales and stagnant prices.

I live in a large city. Housing prices got so high that firms couldn't attract people to work. That was a couple of years ago. Since sky high gas prices last year and stagnant wages, people have been leaving the city. Only the super rich can still afford to live here. A lot of people are getting stuck trying to sell their homes in a down market. US pastures are certainly not very green for average Americans right now.

RxHammer
03-27-07, 01:27
No, George, I DO know. You notice that your third sentence contradicts your first and at the same time validates my statement. CONGRESS spends the money. It can override a presidential veto and recast the national budget hence CONGRESS, ultimately, is responsible for the money. Just because they haven't done so recently does not prove my statement incorrect. Oh well, this is what happens when politics interrupts chasing garotas. I should have known better.....

Let's stick to mongering,

Hammer

PS BTW, national debt is 9 trillion...

Ryjerrob
03-27-07, 08:20
Truth be told, we'll continue to take these trips regardless of the US economy. I'm in love wit a stripper!

Ryjer

Sunset Strip
04-01-07, 22:04
I got robbed and now have to get a new passport and visa. (I will note that since I live in CA, the asshole we did catch has to pay for my new stuff!)

Anyway, I was wondering if anybody knows if you still have to have purchased a ticket to Brazil to get a visa? The reason I ask is that when I last got one back in 2001, this was true (although I do not remember having to prove I had a ticket already).

But if I get stuck with a Visa that is less than 5 years, then I might not go. I mean what is the use of having to apply for a VISA every time.

TJ

Ejam06
04-02-07, 02:28
You still need to a the ticket first.

Mr Enternational
04-02-07, 03:49
Yes you have to buy a ticket. No there is no way to tell if they will give you a 90 day visa or a 5 year visa. It is all in the hands of the vice-consul who approves you for the visa. There is no rhyme or reason as to which one.


I got robbed and now have to get a new passport and visa. (I will note that since I live in CA, the asshole we did catch has to pay for my new stuff!)

Anyway, I was wondering if anybody knows if you still have to have purchased a ticket to Brazil to get a visa? The reason I ask is that when I last got one back in 2001, this was true (although I do not remember having to prove I had a ticket already).

But if I get stuck with a Visa that is less than 5 years, then I might not go. I mean what is the use of having to apply for a VISA every time.

TJ

Bango Cheito
04-02-07, 04:05
I think that in a large number of cases where a guy meets a Brazilian girl, pro or not, and brings her to the US, the girl ends up missing Brazil so much that she can't stand it anymore and has to go back, and unless the guy is willing to follow her back there, the relationship is then over.

I know a few Brazilians here in the NYC area who wouldn't go back to Brazil even to visit even if you put a gun to their heads, but I also know many more who would pack up and move back tomorrow if it were feasible, actually in the past 5-6 years the Brazilian population here has been decimated due to repatriation.

Trippleecks
04-02-07, 13:16
Funkignitor

Where did you dig up that 78 trillion dollar number from, your ass??
The national debt is less than 9 trillion dollars... http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

Almotu
04-02-07, 14:15
Guys, you all have the wrong idea. I saw her in HELP, but i went home with another chick. I went into a salon to get a pedicure and saw her working there, doing hair. So I asked a GDP who i was friends with and they said she was new at HELP, as the girl did not speak a lick of english i believed my GDP friend. Anyway after i negotiated with her she insisted she has only been to HELP twice. Anyway she kept this argument up over the three days i spent with her and only paid me for 1 night. Although I told her it is OK if she is works at HELP. she insisted she did not, and she only works at the salon. Even her freinds said something to me to that effect out of the blue one day outside of the salon as I awaited for her to finish working. My reasoning behind verifying if she works at HELP is to understand why on earth the girl would go through so much to lie to me. When clearly she knew what I was in town for.

It's all about reputation . . . FACE (in asian countries). She doesn't want to be considered a ho. I think most HELP chicks don't consider themselves as being in the sex trade at all. They are not one of THOSE girls . . . the hos at the termas. Some of them actually think they are better than the terma girls.

Maybe she hates the chick that you went with when you bypassed her in HELP? BTW, did you negotiate with her in the hair salon? how awkward was THAT?

It is obvious that you were smitten with her since you spent 3 days with her and skipped the termas. You paid her straight up for one day but HOW MUCH DID YOU SPEND DOING THE BOYFRIEND/GIRLFRIEND THING ... shopping, dining, drinking, clubs, movies,? etc. Her friends that back her up . . . did they occasionally go to HELP also? Think about it, it is not that much work to keep the charade up. She knows you are in town for the GDPs but each day that she snagged you away from going with another girl can be considered a personal triumph to her close circle of friends. Stop trying to figure out women, they are a mystery the world over.

So she's a cute girl, wants to buy a new dress, cute shoes, latest handbag, cellphone, etc and her salary at the hair salon doesn't cut it (did she ever told you how much she made per week working there?) . . . she goes to HELP to supplement her income. NOTHING WRONG WIT THAT. You are not unlike the rest of us who gets an extra tingle if you think that the girl you are getting is relatively unspoiled. If you enjoy her company, just go with the flow. Are you still trying to win that argument? Sheesh!

Ryjerrob
04-02-07, 17:07
I think that in a large number of cases where a guy meets a Brazilian girl, pro or not, and brings her to the US, the girl ends up missing Brazil so much that she can't stand it anymore and has to go back, and unless the guy is willing to follow her back there, the relationship is then over.

I know a few Brazilians here in the NYC area who wouldn't go back to Brazil even to visit even if you put a gun to their heads, but I also know many more who would pack up and move back tomorrow if it were feasible, actually in the past 5-6 years the Brazilian population here has been decimated due to repatriation.In the area of Michigan I live, there's a large Brazilian community. There's also a store that's been around forever, and I never knew it was there. For anyone bringing a woman back from anywhere, you have to do some basic research. There has to be some sort of support system in place. You can't just transplant a person from a different culture and just leave them at home while you work all day. Of the Brazilian I've met in Michigan, they're happy to go back to Brazil 1 or 2 times a year for a visit.

Now, GDP's, that's a different story.

El Austriaco
04-02-07, 18:43
Although I told her it is OK if she is works at HELP. she insisted she did not, and she only works at the salon. Even her freinds said something to me to that effect out of the blue one day outside of the salon as I awaited for her to finish working. My reasoning behind verifying if she works at HELP is to understand why on earth the girl would go through so much to lie to me. When clearly she knew what I was in town for.
Actually, the fact that she knew perfectly well what you were in town for makes her behavior even more logical (and dangerous, BTW): she is simply catering to your ego. She is building up the fantasy that while you came to Brazil to score GDPs, you actually don't have to, because you can score a REGULAR girl like her. Or at least a semipro like her. What's in it for her? A whole lot. At best, she gets a foreign BF (read: sugar daddy) who might take her out of the business, at least for a while until he gets sick and tired of her. At worst, you see through her twisted game and dump her quickly, in which case she is back to square one.

What does she have to gain by telling you the truth? Exactly, nothing.
What does she have to lose by lying to you? Nothing.

Might as well dish out the most financially promising story.

Now, after reading this and Almotu's rock-solid advice below, write down the following and read it over and over again: the most expensive pussy ever in Brazil is the hardcore GDP who convinces you she is actually a regular girl and your GF. You got a perfect example right here.

EA

P.S.: BTW, that her friends confirmed her story means nothing. They wouldn't want to be caught dead messing with someone's (potential) sugar daddy. Again, they have nothing to gain by telling you the truth (and a whole lot to lose by ratting on her).

Tigers787
04-02-07, 21:56
Hi,

This will be my 1st trip to RIO so I am asking for some guidance. Were to go to pickup girls private or escort, avarage going prices, things to do and not to do. I am a regular at Argentinaprivate forum. That forum its little bit different, I have been to B. A. many times but its 2 different countries.

Thanks for the help,

Tiger

Java Man
04-03-07, 06:34
Ryjerrob:
There's a large Brazilian community?!....in MICHIGAN?!! Where? Are they a tight knit group like the ones in FL? Hard to score a garota?
Please share the info.

Almotu
04-03-07, 07:25
Starting reading through the forum especially Bubba Boy's Guide. Download the pdf and print it out. It should be required reading when you are sitting on the can! LOL!

El Austriaco
04-03-07, 07:28
Hi,

This will be my 1st trip to RIO so I am asking for some guidance. Were to go to pickup girls private or escort, avarage going prices, things to do and not to do. I am a regular at Argentinaprivate forum. That forum its little bit different, I have been to B. A. many times but its 2 different countries.

Thanks for the help,

Tiger
I agree with Almotu. First, hit the Bubba Guide (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=565336&postcount=47), then the Reports of Distinction, and if you still have any questions then (which I doubt, this will provide you with more than enough information to digest), then ask specific questions in the Forum. Happy mongering!!!

EA

Ryjerrob
04-03-07, 18:00
Ryjerrob,

There's a large Brazilian community?!....in MICHIGAN?!! Where? Are they a tight knit group like the ones in FL? Hard to score a garota?

Please share the info.In Michigan there's the BCCD (Brazilian Cultural Club of Detroit) which has been around for about fifty years. There's also s spinoff called BCCM (Brazilian Cultural Club of Michigan). If you do a google, you can find the wed pages. They both have Carnival Parties, Feijoda Dinners, and usually a picnic during the summer. Also in Ann Arbor, there's a a promotion group called Party Inc. Brazil, and they usually sponser a party at one of the downtown clubs every other month. University of Michigan has a nice size Brazilian student population.

It's funny, when you get back to the states, you think of things as black and white again, but in Ann Arbor, that's just not the case. The store I mentioned is call Braziamerica, and they are also online. The cool thing about Michigan, is that with the large middle eastern population here, there are a ton of international grocery stores. It's cool to see that they are willing to import products for different culturals.

And I even have an engineer who works for one of our vendors from a company called Tupy. I never knew he was from Brazil, or that this was a Brazilian company. He's from Campo Grande, small world. So working for one of the not so big three, I've come across a ton of people from Brazil. Two summers ago, I met this american guy who was married to a women he met from Latin Euro, while this isn't for me, it worked for him. He married a woman about 40 like himself, with a 14y/o son. She's the equivilant of a Registered Nurse, and since she speaks/reads great ehglish, was able to get a job in her field in the Detroit area.

One of the american guys I met at a Brazilian party last October just got back from Rio, and he played in the Samba band for the neighborhood he lived in during Carnival. I guess there's something for being a musician in any culture.

So as for bringing back a girl from Brazil or any other country, there has to be some sort of support system in place. You can't marry someone from another culture and just expect them to drop everything in their culture for fairytale love. This almost never work. I had a guy who use to work for me who married a girl he met on vacation in Mexico. Right now she's in college, and goes home once a year to see her family. After three years, her english is better than many Americans I know. It's working, so who am I to judge?

I would just advise anyone to be careful. Try not to get all caught up in the sex game, but don't think that all the women you met are, whatever everone else says.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Aybolit
04-04-07, 01:16
So I got another couple of months to stay in Rio, and my brand new Canon camera broke. Is there anywhere I can get it repaired in Rio?

Is it feasible to have another camera of mine sent here from the states? or is it never gonna make it here?

I checked out the prices here for cameras and they are at least doubled here from what I am used to back in NY. Any help would be really appreciated.

Thanx

Trippleecks
04-04-07, 14:03
repairing it might cost as much as a new one... Find out if someone here on the boards is coming down and ask them to bring one down for you. That's the surest way it will arrive.

Exec Talent
04-04-07, 16:37
So as for bringing back a girl from Brazil or any other country, there has to be some sort of support system in place. You can't marry someone from another culture and just expect them to drop everything in their culture for fairytale love. This almost never work.

There is a lot of advice given here from guys with serial failed relationships. Ex-wives who hate them, ex-girlfriends that would love to see them dead. They are the ones who repeatedly tell guys here how to run their lives when their own lives are one failure after another. It is if they have failed at love and don't want anyone else to succeed.

That said, if someone is serious about having a lasting loving relationship with a woman from another country, Ryjerrob's advice is right on. The many Brazilian women I know in the US did not come there to escape poverty. They came because they wanted to be with a man. Unfortunately, the man thought that once they got there they would forget Brazil for the good life in the US. What actually happened is that he got tired of his trophy who did not speak English and had a hard time being faithful. She missed Brazil and her family.

If you really want to have a successful relationship learn Portuguese, plan regular trips to Brazil and get to know her family. Most importantly stop listening to the naysayers here. You wouldn't take advice on running a successful business from Ken Lay, would you?

Member #4156
04-04-07, 21:38
so i got another couple of months to stay in rio, and my brand new canon camera broke. is there anywhere i can get it repaired in rio?

is it feasible to have another camera of mine sent here from the states? or is it never gonna make it here?

i checked out the prices here for cameras and they are at least doubled here from what i am used to back in ny. any help would be really appreciated.

thanx
aybolit

my advice to you is to [1]find something cheap and doable, or [2] if you're up to it, negotiate with a fellow tourist and buy one off him/her.

if you have your camera sent to you, you run the risk of paying for it again plus shipping fees. brasil requires 100% taxable duties payable for commodities at least coming from the states. so let's say if your camera costs $300, sedex or whatever courier in brasil handling that shipment will request a duty payment from the consignee of that exact value upon delivery.

i know this personally cause i sent a friend of mine some tourist memorabilia i.e. t-shirts, key-chains, refrige magnets, thinking that all gift shipments under $100 were non dutiable. when his package showed up, they requested the same amount from him that the shipment was worth.

you could also get the shipper to fabricate the cost of camera but by doing that you run the risk of getting your shit sent back or worse confirep001ed.

i hope this helped.

Java Man
04-04-07, 22:14
From:

http://www.canon.com.br

In Rio:
Assistec Serv. de Ótica Eletrônica Ltda.
Rua Uruguaina, 94 - Sobre Loja
Centro - Rio de Janeiro - RJ
Fone: (21) 2242-3236
Email: assistecss@uol.com.br

Voce fala Portuguese?

They probably will want your receipt, which you more than likely left at home.
Have you thought about calling the store where you purchased and advising them of the product defect? It's still under warranty, remember? Unless you dropped it.
You can also contact canon via e-mail or by calling them. Find the phone number, e-mail at:
www.canon.com

Pipe Layer99
04-05-07, 08:07
So I got another couple of months to stay in Rio, and my brand new Canon camera broke. Is there anywhere I can get it repaired in Rio?
Is it feasible to have another camera of mine sent here from the states? or is it never gonna make it here?
I checked out the prices here for cameras and they are at least doubled here from what I am used to back in NY. Any help would be really appreciated.
Thanx

Another idea - look for disposable cameras. They should get you by in the next few months. Only issue is how you'd get them developed. If the pics are nude, you may have some concern about using your local store. But if you know someone at the store they should be able to develop the film for you or you can go to a private store. Good luck.

Almotu
04-05-07, 15:16
Aybolit, please explain how your Canon camera does not work anymore? Is it a point and shoot or an SLR like the Rebel. Did you drop it on the floor and it is smashed to bits or did you get an error 99 which can be fixed easily. If you are in Copa, Brazil Specialist might be able to help you out. Search for his ID in "Classifieds" and you should be able to PM him. He is a complete Photo Maniac and likes to help out / solve problems when it comes to photography. He might even rent you a point & shoot digital camera.

Aybolit
04-05-07, 16:59
Thank you guys for your help; I'm gonna go to the center right now to uruguaiana and check out that place. The camera is a sd 600 canon and the problem is when I turn the camera on it says lens problem and camera needs to be restarted and then turns off not giving me time for any action, I looked this up on internet and it seems to be a major problem with canons and cannot be fixed outside the store. I guess shipping my older olympus camera is out of the question, I wouldnt pay more than 100 bucks for it right now anyway. Eu falo bastante porto, so hopefully I can find something doable like you guys are suggesting, but I def need a digital, can't go back to disposable. The pictures are priceless so if I have to pay doable to buy another I guess I will. Just hate being ripped offf. Maybe they can fix it at that store. I would have to pay for it. Also, even though the camera is under warranty, I don't have the receipt. It was a gift from an ex of mine in the states and she kept the receipt after a bad break up

Thanks again for your help guys.

Aybolit
04-05-07, 22:26
So anyway, fixed the camera for 240 reals in the center. half hour of work, dont think they even had to replace anything.. fuck. but it still beats buying a worse camera starting at 400 reals at least. At least i got a working camera now.

Thanx to everyone for help.

Sprite13
04-10-07, 06:42
Not sure if this is the right place to post it but here it goes:

Dollar about to hit the 2 reais mark soon. Target is 1US$=1.70 Reais and 1 Euro=2.30 Reais in the next 4 months. OUCH!!!

Gentlemen, Let us meditate on the impact and consequences of this calamity. Not a pretty picture to say the least. Any stop to this non-sense anytime soon? Oh well...


Mercado
Bovespa bate novo recorde e fecha a 46,9 mil pontos

A Bolsa de Valores de São Paulo bateu novo recorde em seu fechamento nesta segunda-feira, com seus negócios impulsionados pelo cenário externo favorável.


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O Ibovespa fechou em alta de 0,51%, atingindo a marca de 46.885 pontos, segundo dados preliminares. O recorde de fechamento anterior havia sido atingido na quinta-feira passada, quando o índice alcançou 46.646 pontos.

Ao longo do dia, o índice superou os 47 mil pontos, atingindo a máxima de 47.239 pontos, novo recorde durante o pregão.

Os indicadores positivos divulgados pelo Departamento de Trabalho dos EUA na sexta-feira foram apontados por analistas como os principais responsáveis pelo bom desempenho da Bovespa neste início de semana

Java Man
04-10-07, 07:20
Target is 1US$=1.70 Reais and 1 Euro=2.30 Reais in the next 4 months. OUCH!!![/i]

Where did you see that?