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Fritobugger
10-26-07, 05:41
What time does it open? I did not see a time in the forum.

Thanks

Loveasiangirls
10-26-07, 08:47
I stayed at the Eversunshine hotel in Pudong (about $100 a night for a pretty good room). I was walking around i noticed a ton of working girls around here. On Pudong Nan lu to the Times Square shopping Mall (on block) there are 4 massage places on one side of the street. I call then massage places as they have the barber shop twisting thing outside but sometimes the sign says massage. Sometimes is simply says nothing but their business is quite clear.

Behind the glass window you have 4-5 girls sitting on couches. As soon as you pass by they wave at you or even come out to call you in.

The standard price is 200RMB. I walked in one place. They tell me Yi bai (200) and point to a room adjacent. One girls grabs your crotch while another one explains the services by sticking her finger in her mouth. Pretty obvious universal language.
They looked above average but did not like the place. So I point at the girl I prefer and show my hotel card. no problem, the girl gets her coat and follows me.

Full service with CBJ and DATY in your hotel room for 200 is quite good. I gave her an extra 100.

She was an 8 fully dressed but 6.5 naked.

I don't know their operating hours as I indulged in the middle of the afternoon.

Levitian
10-26-07, 10:09
GM,

With all the respect for you, but I would side with Bonzo here.

I made the experience that the girls in general do treat me better, because they know I do pay fairly well and do not argue with them. Actually, they are trying hard to please because they want me to come back and pick them again. To be a "shrewed negotiator" never worked for me.

There is quite a lot of ado about nothing when it comes to this "Face" or "Losing Face" thing.

My POV

Levitian

Guybert56
10-26-07, 11:03
Wow. Thanks Guybert! That's very descriptive and definitely helpful!

Do I have to worry about getting ripped off at the BBS places? Or are they are pretty honest in hopes for repeat business?

Thanks!

I can't wait!As I said, I don't speak from experience about the BBS's as they intimidate me with all their pounding on windows and catcalls when I walk by. I think you need to make the deal up front and keep it fair. The board seeems to indicate an average of 300 for FS. Good luck!

Guybert56
10-26-07, 11:31
First, they have a new name…Sacrosa NCT Essence Sauna. It is still found by walking north past Nextage Mall on Pudong Lu and turning right into the very first alley way before you get to the Wagas Restaurant. Walk in about 50 meters and bear left where you will see the Ramen noodle shop on the left. If you pass the UBC Coffee shop on the right, you have gone too far. The elevator entrance is between the UBC Coffee door and the Steak-king. The back entrance to the new mall where Wagas is located is directly across from the elevator entrance. The building number is 1085, 5/F and the phone is listed as 58352261. Happy hunting.

Well, I got to thinking about my last vist and #379 so I wondered by about 2Pm and asked if she was in and it was my lucky day...when they called the back and asked I could her her answer that she was ready. The staff and facilities here are a full cut above the World Plaza abd from seeing the line up after I was finsihed today I would say they have several high 8's and even 9's (from the face and you can never be sure until the top comes off about that...ha!). Anyway, #379 came to pick me up from the lounge even before the glass of water arrived and smiled ever so nicely at seeing me again!! She really is cute with the best smile with wonderful dimples and nice sparkling teeth. Again, she started with a nice massge but was easily distracted by some gentle exploring under her dress. Off it came and I asked her to lie down for me to give her a massage. She seemed to be really surprised but jumped at the chance to lie down without a sweating body on her! I did a nice gengle back massage carefully avoiding anything sexy until she actually studk her adorable behind up in the air for me to massage! Then it was some gengle kissing around the backs of her thighs and then she was ready!

On her back she went and gave me some great DFK and necking. I slowly circled down her adorable A's with great nips and then headed south...slowly. When I brushed her tingle button with my tongue, I thought wshe was going to loose it. She went from the perfunctory fake moans and groans to a totally different sound and kept at that nice sound until she came with me tickling her G-spot with my middle finger and her button wtih my tongue. Then she dropped into hoover mode and did some wonderful things for me!

Then out came the raincoat and on to cowgirl for a few innings, then various others with me changing the pace sometimes again with DATY to keep her warmed up. She is a wonderful lover!! No doubt about it! Di-di was happy to keep working but I was worried about the clock...sometimes he refuses to fire when he is pressured...anyway, back to reverse mish and then as luck would have it, the raincoat sliipped off and there we were in an awkward position...she reached for another but then just decided she could do things her way and began another BBBJ that was ecstacy! She was REALLY going to town and di-di was extremely touched and decided he would fire after all. I warned her, even pulling out, but she just went back in for a CIM! I was amazed!! She did the spitting and gargling routine afterward but I was still amazed she initiated!! WHAT A TROOPER!! That, I think, takes it from a GFE to a PSE (p..n star experience!).

Clean up was gentle and nice with her actually getting back and spooning with me for a few minutes exchanging kisses and hugs!

Girl #379 is awesome!! Face 9, Body 8, Atitude 10+, Performance 10+
Investment...not damages: 550 for 75 minutes with her alone in the room doing all kinds of nice things...
Surroundings: 8
Value: 10!

Now the World Plaza and this place have a close race going!

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Guybert56
10-26-07, 15:50
My first try at downloading a scan! The white background cards are front and back for the 5f Sauna that used to me called Ming Dian and is located very near the Nextage Mall in Pudong behind Wagas. The reddish brown card is front and back for the B2 World Plaza sauna. Both offer 550 afternoon rates and very good tallent!

Both are withinn easy walking distance from the Dongchang exit of line 2 subway. Follow the exit sign toward World Plaza and head down to B2 for the one or up to 1 to hit the street and head south (left out the front door) until you see Wagas on you left and turn left down that alley and bear left until you see the Steak King on your right and the Ramen Noodle shop on your left. The elevator to 5F is directly accross from the back Mall entrance between IBC Coffee and Steak King.

Rovemor
10-26-07, 16:53
I just finished a great week in Shanghai.

Last Sunday at 2:30 PM, I arrived at the B2 Sauna which you can reach from the Line 2 Dong Chang Lu station. I followed a local guy down the stairs and we both went into the the Sauna. I'm not sure when or if they turn on all the lights in the shower. It was dingy, but do not let that bother you, it gets better. Much better.

After a few minutes in the small TV room drinking tea, they brought in 4 girls. I picked the shortest one with the cute face. The was number 5. We walked back to the room and I realized that this place is quit large.

She left the room to get her gear. When she returned, she was dressed in much less. After I removed her bra, she undressed. I like small breasted women, so I give her body a 9+. She has cute face.

She had me lay on my stomach and massaged me with her breasts. I rolled over and she did a nice BBBJ. I positioned her for 69 which she seemed to enjoy. She went on for quite a while before putting on the condom and mounting me. We tried many positions. She was great. I would give her a 10 for service.

Ringer5
10-26-07, 18:19
Gm I respect your view, although I am not sure that cultural niceties play a strong role in Shanghai today – my impression is that simple economics may be a stronger force, which is why I feel inclined to inject some humanity at any opportunity.

To add some relevance, I would like to report on the spa in Xiang Cheng Road, recently described by Nightwing. Even with the directions, I had some problems finding it – but it was definitely worth the effort. Going down to the basement, I was led to a room where a crowd of girls appeared for selection. After choosing a very attractive girl (late 20s, turned out to be from Shanghai), we went to a room with shower bed and usual facilities. No shower, attendants wanting to remove skin or ritual bath – ok with me, and she complimented me on having showered before going there. The activity started off feeling a bit like a process – "I do this, followed by this, then that" – horizontal shower, licking and blowing in improbable places, fake moans (yes, my big toe is a thing of beauty but I’ve never noticed women approaching orgasm by sucking it before), while she worked through the check list. Even the red rope was a bit mechanical, but somewhere along the way we started to click – once she came down from the roof and combined a bit of conversation with the physical activity ("me Ma Li, you call me Mary" – "I’ll call you anything, just keep doing that"! ). The BBBJ was good, moved into 69, FS and ended up as a GFE. She was a bit of an "Essex Girl", but good company. Complimented me on my tongue technique and left me with a smile on my face. I will definitely go back there, I enjoyed the activity and the atmosphere is pleasantly degenerate – no pretences, there’s only one reason to go down those stairs!


"Ringer, your note indicates you are missing the subtleties of the China culture. Of course on the one hand you are right - if you push the price down too low, you end up with a provider who is pissed off and will give you poor service, because you have caused her to lose face (she accepted a price too low).

On the other hand, if you pay too much, you have lost face in her eyes, whether you know it or not. You, to her, are a weak foreigner./"

Ace Gallant
10-26-07, 19:26
GM,

With all the respect for you, but I would side with Bonzo here.

I made the experience that the girls in general do treat me better, because they know I do pay fairly well and do not argue with them. Actually, they are trying hard to please because they want me to come back and pick them again. To be a "shrewed negotiator" never worked for me.

There is quite a lot of ado about nothing when it comes to this "Face" or "Losing Face" thing.

My POV

LevitianI never negotiate with the girls. If I like her and she asks for ridiculous prices, I would rather tell her of the market prices. In other words, I am telling her, that’s the price I am willing to pay and telling her not to treat me like an idiot, take it or leave it. If she is not willing to accept the market price, it’s the end of conversation. There are many providers in Shanghai, I will not let one girl over price herself to stop me from looking for another provider.

The only Exception is when if this particular girl been highly recommended by a friend or on ISG, I am willing to pay more to try and find out whether what’s so special about her service. Curiosity kills the cat as you know……. 

If the girl/s provide me with excellence service, it is often I am also willing to give her a little extra as tips.

IMHO: The girls in China will not thanks you if you overpay them, but as a matter of fact, they will be laughing behind your back that they had again ripped off another stupid foreigner. I had withnessed it myself while resting at the BBS (after my deed) that the girls talking among themselve of the foreigner, whom had just walk out after the deed, is stupid because they ripped him off for extra of 200RMB.

Enjoy!

AG

Rex69
10-27-07, 03:52
I never negotiate with the girls. If I like her and she asks for ridiculous prices, I would rather tell her of the market prices. Hi Newbie here,

What is market price for Shanghai girls?

What's BBS? And last question... Being new to Shanghai, which hotel/area should I stay in? Something in the $100- $150 USD range.

Thanks

Loveasiangirls
10-27-07, 09:26
Hi Newbie here,

What is market price for Shanghai girls?

What's BBS? And last question... Being new to Shanghai, which hotel/area should I stay in? Something in the $100- $150 USD range.

ThanksIf looking for a hotel check out www.wotif.com They have good prices. Last time I stayed at Eversunshine, very nice for less than $100 including breakfast. You need a taxi to the sites but can find girls within walking distance.

OldAsiaHand
10-27-07, 09:56
The topic of prices has been debated on this board too many times to count. However, since it is the current topic of dialogue on the Shanghai thread, I feel obligated to put in my 2 fen again.

1) I agree with the theory that the girls just think you are a fool if you overpay.

2) I believe that some girls give good service, others don't, for a myriad of reasons, regardless if you pay more, so long as it is not less than standard prices.

3) I never negotiate with a girl. If she offers ridiculous prices, I just walk regardless of how much I want to do her. Whenever I bargain, I usually end up with short service. The only exeption is when a mama trys to get another few RMB since she thinks I do not know any better. This is obvious to me by the way she approaches me and how quickly she reverts to the going rate when she realizes that I did not arrive yesterday.

4) I do give small tips (10-20%) after the deed if I think the service is worthy of it and I may repeat her in future. I make it clear that I do not give tips to all the girls and that she earned it. I may even tell her not to tell the other girls, but she does anyway which may help me get better service from other girls in the establishment.

Just my POV.

OAH

WinteRain
10-27-07, 10:02
Hi Newbie here,

What is market price for Shanghai girls?

What's BBS? And last question... Being new to Shanghai, which hotel/area should I stay in? Something in the $100- $150 USD range.

ThanksMy friend, you are about to be told off by some members, but I shall be nice and ask you to read a few pages worth of posts, and click on the Abbreviations button at the top. :) Take special note to what RTFF means, because you will see it often!

WinteRain
10-27-07, 10:08
That, I think, takes it from a GFE to a PSE (p..n star experience!).
Haha! We need more reports of girls of this PSE classification ! Make PSE the new GFE!

Wadman
10-27-07, 18:53
I have never been to Shanghai. I get my fun down in Shenzhen and ChangPing, but let me chime in with my thoughts.

The western way of thinking is:
If he pays 300 instead of 200 (an extra 50%) it makes sense that the girl should give him extra service. Not an extra 50% in service, but maybe an extra 25%. Better service means he is more likely to repeat. Makes perfect business sense, charge 50% in price for an extra 25%. And it encourages repeat visits from a profitable customer.

But the BBS girls in China think:
Heeeeey...! He is willing to pay 300 instead of 200. He clearly does not know how the system works. If I can get away with charging an extra 100, maybe I can get away with other things too. For example: no BJ, refuse certain positions, etc. Or charge even more for these services.

Personally, I tend not to tip at all for performances that are merely "above average" or "good". But if her looks/service was outstanding (= some extra "flavours") I tend to tip big.



The topic of prices has been debated on this board too many times to count. However, since it is the current topic of dialogue on the Shanghai thread, I feel obligated to put in my 2 fen again.

1) I agree with the theory that the girls just think you are a fool if you overpay.

2) I believe that some girls give good service, others don't, for a myriad of reasons, regardless if you pay more, so long as it is not less than standard prices.

3) I never negotiate with a girl. If she offers ridiculous prices, I just walk regardless of how much I want to do her. Whenever I bargain, I usually end up with short service. The only exeption is when a mama trys to get another few RMB since she thinks I do not know any better. This is obvious to me by the way she approaches me and how quickly she reverts to the going rate when she realizes that I did not arrive yesterday.

4) I do give small tips (10-20%) after the deed if I think the service is worthy of it and I may repeat her in future. I make it clear that I do not give tips to all the girls and that she earned it. I may even tell her not to tell the other girls, but she does anyway which may help me get better service from other girls in the establishment.

Just my POV.

OAH

Ace Gallant
10-27-07, 20:57
My friend, you are about to be told off by some members, but I shall be nice and ask you to read a few pages worth of posts, and click on the Abbreviations button at the top. :) Take special note to what RTFF means, because you will see it often!Posting like those looks like the another nice piece of work from a well known Serial Antagonist under another one of his new Alias. He would normally starts with a post like this one trying to "act" innocent and later turn onto flaming posts.

Rex, I got some news for you; if you not what I said you are, than read the forum for your answers. If you are; don't even try!

WR; we should not even bother to waste our time to answer his post anymore until he prove that he had contributed.

Enjoy!

AG

Santa
10-28-07, 00:14
The only tip Santa gives 'em is the tip of his Red-nosed Rudolf! :D Ho,ho,ho! They seem to be very happy with that. Lol.

Ringer5
10-28-07, 02:02
Yesterday I found another opportunity in Pudong, rapidly becoming the sporting capital of this land! The location is a bit obscure, but I think it will be worth the effort once they get themselves organised. It's out in the Jinqiao / Ningqiao industrial and business area, not far from the yuppie heartland on Biyun Rd. Turn left out of the Ramada, east on Biyun Rd.. Cross Jinqiao Rd, you are now on New Jinqiao Rd. , after less than 1km you will see some large tower blocks under construction and refurbishment. Turn left on Jinxiang Rd. On your right is a hotel (I forget the name. Tan Fu, perhaps? ), and at the base of the hotel is a typical row of shops and restaurants. Including the Hai Li Spa and Massage Centre. (This is not visible from New Jinqiao Road. You need to turn onto Jinxiang Road).

I did not have time to try their services, but had a look round and chat with the young lad on reception. It's very new, only just open, and very nicely done. Perhaps the best spa I've seen, in terms of ambience and cleanliness. Each room has a large bed and adjoining shower area, with either an airbed or horizontal shower bed. Very comfortable, like a good hotel room.

He quoted (RMB) 198 for straight oil massage, 398 for "special" massage. When I asked him about the full shower service he said 2000! I told him very firmly that I'd lived in Pudong for years, knew all the places and their rates and the correct price was 700. To which he immediately agreed. As I left I told him that I and many of my friends would be regular customers as long as he had beautiful girls giving reliable service, and he kept prices reasonable. He did get more attentive when he realised I was a local, not a guest at the hotel. He assured me on both counts, so I plan to go back and check quite soon. The two girls I saw walking around were both attractive, although not stunning. Overall, this could be a useful addition to the list of local facilities!

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Cocoon
10-28-07, 04:18
People,

Punting is not like buying a car, and excessive haggling is just asking for bad service. Tap your nose, like in the movie Sting, and walk away thinking that you are Robert Redford, or Paul Newman for those getting on a bit.

What have you spent on return flight, accomodation and food? Divide the average amount spent per pussy by that total, and you get the percentage that we shall call the Pussy Tax.

As usual, some people are hell bent on lowering taxes, whereas some people prefer to pay more for better services.

Cocoon

Fritobugger
10-28-07, 09:11
Went to try World Plaza earlier today but it wasn't yet open. So I walked down to the sauna behind Waga's.

Nice place. All the girls were pretty hot. I went with 329. Great legs and a smokin ass. A hot tall Nanjing number.

I plan to return and sample some of the other offerings.

Rex69
10-28-07, 16:44
My friend, you are about to be told off by some members, but I shall be nice and ask you to read a few pages worth of posts, and click on the Abbreviations button at the top. :) Take special note to what RTFF means, because you will see it often!Thanks for the warning, I'm reading some of the old posting now. Just so many.

Albert Punter
10-28-07, 22:31
I agree 100% with OAH.

I only want to add that I do as AG does, when I am quoted a ridiculous price I counter-offer market price, BUT I don't start a negotiation like when I buy fakes bags or watches. Therefore, either she accepts or I move on.


The topic of prices has been debated on this board too many times to count. However, since it is the current topic of dialogue on the Shanghai thread, I feel obligated to put in my 2 fen again.

1) I agree with the theory that the girls just think you are a fool if you overpay.

2) I believe that some girls give good service, others don't, for a myriad of reasons, regardless if you pay more, so long as it is not less than standard prices.

3) I never negotiate with a girl. If she offers ridiculous prices, I just walk regardless of how much I want to do her. Whenever I bargain, I usually end up with short service. The only exeption is when a mama trys to get another few RMB since she thinks I do not know any better. This is obvious to me by the way she approaches me and how quickly she reverts to the going rate when she realizes that I did not arrive yesterday.

4) I do give small tips (10-20%) after the deed if I think the service is worthy of it and I may repeat her in future. I make it clear that I do not give tips to all the girls and that she earned it. I may even tell her not to tell the other girls, but she does anyway which may help me get better service from other girls in the establishment.

Just my POV.

OAH

Guybert56
10-28-07, 23:44
Went to try World Plaza earlier today but it wasn't yet open. So I walked down to the sauna behind Waga's.

Nice place. All the girls were pretty hot. I went with 329. Great legs and a smokin ass. A hot tall Nanjing number.

I plan to return and sample some of the other offerings.Seems they open about 2 PM and not sure about closing time. Ask for the VIP rate for early hours. 550 Yuan per hour. They will tack on a hundred for extra time.

Nyborg
10-29-07, 05:02
Last week I was taken out by Chinese business colleagues for dinner. Afterwards I was taken to the Shanghai Changhang Merrylin Hotel in Pudong (third floor) to finish off the evening.

I was taken and shown a locker for my clothes, got undressed and directed to the showers. Afte showing I was given a pair of shorts and a top and directed to a room with four loungers. My business colleagues also came to the room with me and after a drink, about 10 girls entered the room. All were very good looking and after some serious consideration, I chose the girl that I liked with a very sexy body. All the girls were wearing a small top and a very small wrap around skirt.

I was taken to a private room by my girl and left there for about two minutes before she returned. Then it was down to business, off came my top and shorts and then she stripped off her clothes. Hmmm, very nice indeed. Onto the bed and she started "massaging" me with her mouth filled with water, which was a completely new experience for me. Back, arms, legs and ending with some good old AR. Then it was over onto my back and the process was repeated on my chest, stomach, legs, dick and balls. Back onto my stomach and after covering my back with powder, she gave me a very nice body to body massage using her very pert boobs. While she was doing this her nipples got extremely hard which added to the excitment. Onto my back and the same body to body massage but by this time my dick was rock hard and she was also now very wet.

It then continued with a nice long BBBJ, AR with HJ at the same time, followed by another BBBJ. While this was going on I was allowed full access to her boobs and pussy and she really started dripping, she was so wet and her clit was very hard.

Finally, out came the condom and we had CFS in numerous positions until final completion.

At no time was anything hurried or was I under the impression that it was a case of get things over with as quickly as possible. My girl got a 8 for looks, a 8 for attitude and a 10 for service.

I would definitely recommend this place and if the other girls were as good as the girl I was with, well, I am just going to have to go back and investigate some more.

I am not sure what the damage was as everything was settled by my Chinese colleagues.

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Levitian
10-29-07, 06:11
Probably a misunderstanding.

I also do not bargain, but I do accept that I have to pay a "long nose" premium. If the price is exorbitant or the overall atmosphere not accomodating, I simply walk away.

Do I care if I lose face in the eyes of the Chinese girl because I didn't push her to give me the same price like Local fellow mongerers? Absolutely not.
If I do get good value for the money I will return, if not ... tant pis.

Levitian

Herr Pollon
10-29-07, 08:36
Seems they open about 2 PM and not sure about closing time. Ask for the VIP rate for early hours. 550 Yuan per hour. They will tack on a hundred for extra time.


Just to be sure...

Is that place located in the third floor, in front of the Thai Restaurant??

The place behind wagas; the entrance is huangpi lu??

Mock A Bee
10-29-07, 09:34
Last week I was taken out by Chinese business colleagues for dinner. Afterwards I was taken to the Shanghai Changhang Merrylin Hotel in Pudong (third floor) to finish off the evening.


Thanks for sharing your experience.

How much was the charge? and how much time do they give you for a "massage" with the girl?

I am sure a lot of other readers would like to know.

Thanks, MAB

Fritobugger
10-29-07, 10:09
I didn't want to rewrite what had already been provided very clearly. To avoid any confusion here are the details:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=660740&postcount=2257

Guybert56
10-29-07, 10:48
Just to be sure...

Is that place located in the third floor, in front of the Thai Restaurant??

The place behind wagas; the entrance is huangpi lu??First, The Sauna in World Plaza on Pudong Lu and I said it opens at around 2 PM is IN the World Plaza Bldg on B2! It is awesome and is about 550 with VIP card. #5, 17, 19 are GREAT!

Second, the place behind Wagas is on the 5th floor in the building behind the building Wagas is in. The entrance is between the Steak King and UBC Coffee. If you walk through the mall that WAGAS is in to the rear of the mall, exit and go across that alley to the elevator entrance and up to 5. I think THAT one opens around noon I think. It is also very nice! It is 550 as well and #379 is NOT a clock watcher. BUT, be NICE to her. She's a keeper!

Blazin K7
10-29-07, 12:03
Hey guys,

Newbie here with my first post! I just recently moved to Shanghai and have a place on Hongmei Lu and Wuzhong Lu, and I was wondering if there are any good places to visit around here.

Before I get crucified, I did do a search in this thread on "Xuhui" and only came up with 3 posts so any suggestions or advice on where to go would be extremely appreciated and definitely help. I don't really speak the language or know my way around just yet so I hoping to find something pretty close rather than to venture out to Pudong where I've noticed is probably a better bet.

Anyway, hopefully I'll have some posts of substance to share soon but until then, any help would be appreciated.

Thanks guys!

Herr Pollon
10-29-07, 18:25
Although I am a huge russian-fan, today has been my first Bats (At Shangrila-Pudong) experience. As some old post report there is some russian action there.

I arrived at half past eleven and only saw a couple of white "girls". A 1,70 "around forty" short blonde hair and a huge undetermined age dark haired. Neither one of them was worth much but I was hungry for exotic meat so I went for the blonde one.

BIG MISTAKE.

Herr Pollon
10-29-07, 18:53
First, The Sauna in World Plaza on Pudong Lu and I said it opens at around 2 PM is IN the World Plaza Bldg on B2! It is awesome and is about 550 with VIP card. #5, 17, 19 are GREAT!

Second, the place behind Wagas is on the 5th floor in the building behind the building Wagas is in. The entrance is between the Steak King and UBC Coffee. If you walk through the mall that WAGAS is in to the rear of the mall, exit and go across that alley to the elevator entrance and up to 5. I think THAT one opens around noon I think. It is also very nice! It is 550 as well and #379 is NOT a clock watcher. BUT, be NICE to her. She's a keeper!


I got it all wrong!!!

I got it now , thanks to Frittobugger ( 2280) and Guybert56 (2257)

Albert Punter
10-29-07, 21:46
Lately many members have reported about venues in Pudong, but centre of mongering life in this city is still Puxi IMHO.
In any case, going to Shanghai Hotel sauna or TongRen Lu (depending what you look for) is a much shorter taxi ride than going to other side of the river. Surely not far from your place.

It seems to me you are based in Hongqiao, so I would try a search using that word.

Good luck


Hey guys,

Newbie here with my first post! I just recently moved to Shanghai and have a place on Hongmei Lu and Wuzhong Lu, and I was wondering if there are any good places to visit around here.

Before I get crucified, I did do a search in this thread on "Xuhui" and only came up with 3 posts so any suggestions or advice on where to go would be extremely appreciated and definitely help. I don't really speak the language or know my way around just yet so I hoping to find something pretty close rather than to venture out to Pudong where I've noticed is probably a better bet.

Anyway, hopefully I'll have some posts of substance to share soon but until then, any help would be appreciated.

Thanks guys!

Dragon D
10-30-07, 03:12
Heya,

Your only a stone throw away from 500 Wuzhong road red rope, Ji Yuan 3 soapy land, and about 30 hand job places between hong mei road and gui lin road.

Quick report:
Went to Ji Yuan 3 on Wu Zhong road. It is just past Gui lin road before 500 Wuzhong. For those old shanghai residents it used to be a KTV with a big King Tut Mask and roman columns.
Service was good, lots of girls to choose from, room set up it pretty much the same as the other Ji Yuan with one new addition. Porn on a small TV overhead to watch as your doing the dead. Didn't really get a special girl so didn't remember number. Friend tried number 78 and was very happy. So happy that he went back the next day for a nooner.

Until next time.. cheers all... and continue the beaver hunting..

Levitian
10-30-07, 04:30
You should try the meanwhile closed Shanghai Section until end of 2006. You will get plenty of information there.

Levitian

Gualtier Malde
10-30-07, 06:28
People,

Punting is not like buying a car, and excessive haggling is just asking for bad service. Tap your nose, like in the movie Sting, and walk away thinking that you are Robert Redford, or Paul Newman for those getting on a bit.

What have you spent on return flight, accomodation and food? Divide the average amount spent per pussy by that total, and you get the percentage that we shall call the Pussy Tax.

As usual, some people are hell bent on lowering taxes, whereas some people prefer to pay more for better services.

Cocoon

First, let me say, Cocoon, that I have no f*cking idea what you are talking about... :-)

But that aside, I will state first I totally agree with OAH (we've both argued on this side before, so no surprise), and Wadman (who I had the pleasure of sharing Shenzhen with recently.)

I also want to make it clear that in my previous posts, I never suggested either 1) haggling or 2) paying BELOW market. I think you tell the girl you pay market, give her the price, and that's it. If she doesn't like it, then you are done. This is not negotiation, this is setting expectations. If the girl argues, perhaps SHE is trying to negotiate. I just state the price, and either she accepts, or she walks, or I walk.

You guys who talk about better service for paying more are probably totally happy with the service level you get. Perhaps if you try the Chinese way you might be surprised. But OAH is right - don't NEGOTIATE. Just SET your price, at the market rate, and be done with it. That is the path to respect in Shanghai.

GM

Guybert56
10-30-07, 10:23
Lately many members have reported about venues in Pudong, but centre of mongering life in this city is still Puxi IMHO.
In any case, going to Shanghai Hotel sauna or TongRen Lu (depending what you look for) is a much shorter taxi ride than going to other side of the river. Surely not far from your place.

It seems to me you are based in Hongqiao, so I would try a search using that word.

Good luckWe all have points of view. But, I think you just MIGHT soften yours a tad if you actually visited the two easy ones to reach from #2 subway line in Pudong. The sauna in B2 in World Plaza cannot hold a candle to SH Sauna as for luxury, and I admit but one SH experience and it was only good, but what B2 lacks in luxury, it MORE than makes up for in girls atitude! Same can be said for the one behind Wagas also very clsoe to the #2 Subway stop (actually Dongfeng Lu exit. And take the World Plaza street exit). I have had nothing but top quality service and really fine dining. If you know what I mean!

I went back to B2 today at 2 and asked for and got #17 (#5 and #19 (with 19 having a nice C chest). Are also HIGH class! ) and spent one of the most intense hours in my life! Another GFE/PSE to some degree. After a lot of DATY and 69 and we had gone through every position in the K Surta plus a couple, we ended with a very big O for both of us in a modified Mish. She actually cleaned me up with her mouth and tried to get me into round 2 but I was expected elsewhere. She IS great! I have her cell if someone can communicate in Chinese. PM if you want it.

Girl #17 Face 8, Body 8 (nice B- with great nips) Attitude 10+ Perofmance 10+

Surroundings: again only a 6 because it does not have the upscale stuff. No red rope and the bed is actually a wide massage bed but they do have a convenient Roman couch.

A LONG hour was only 550! She actually waited to call my wristband number until we had done some serious DFK and necking. Then cuddled and spooned afterward. SWEET!

Blackjai
10-30-07, 11:03
Hi all,

Instead of taking advice from you all expert all the time I decided to try something different and contribute to the community, so this time I tried Yuki massage in the shanghai daily, and it was the best BBBJ I have ever had, like OMG good.

Anyway I called them up with my limited mandarin and ask for prices and stuff, the girl on the other end told me 198 for 2 hours of oily massage, so I asked if there were any specials, she said yes but can't tell me the price, so I told her that if she isn't going to tell me the price then I'm not going to use their service cuz I know once the girl is here she's going to try to charge me thru the nose, anyway she finally told me fs for 800 rmb, I said if there's any half service (as in just BJ and massage) she said you really have to talk to the massage girl when she gets here, so I figure it can't be that bad.

So half an hour later, a girl arrived, not the best looker, and not the youngest so I was a bit disappointed cuz I made a point in telling the girl on the phone that I want a young girl, so straight off I kind of wanna send her back, but anyway I asked her how much for half service, she said 800, then I said ok now you can go home cuz last time I called lily massage I only paid 400 which was bs cuz it was around 480 without taxi, she then tried to talk back and stuff, and I said no you can really go home, I'll give you taxi money, so then finally gave in and settle with 400.

On we go with the massage, pretty decent, quite a strong massage, she then flipped me over and started massaging my di-di which was quite good, then she asked me if I wanna add 200 to lick my whole body including my butt hole, I said no only 100 cuz I said if I went out it would only cost me 600 for fs, but then she was pretty firm with the price, anyway after some more di-di massage, she said ok, 200 with no taxi fee, and at that point I was pretty ready to pay the full price anyway cuz her skills are really quite good, so on we go.

She got some water from the toilet and licked my entire body, and I have to say she was really really keen at licking and sticking her tongue in my butt hole, wow, she did it for such a long time, and it was very very good, better than going out to those sauna.

As for the BBBJ, it was sooooooooo good, I mean she was really making a lot of effort, eventually I said I can't stand it any more I wanna shoot in your mouth, and surprise surprise, she gave a slight nod and continue on sucking, oh man, it was goooood.

After all the wash up, I started talking to her for a bit and then she said from the time she started working in this job, she has never let any of her client fk her, they always blow during the BJ stage, and she said she doesn't like to provide fs, just massage and BJ, but I really have no complaint at that stage as she has proven herself to be such an excellent masseur.

All in all the damage was 600 rmb, I gave her 50 rmb more in the end as tip cuz it was so good.

Her name is shirley, again not the best looking girl, not the best body, but man can she do BBBJ.

Sasparx
10-30-07, 12:13
Dear All,

I have been an avid reader of the Shanghai thread for many months. I really appreciate the goodwill that exists on this forum & hope that it continues for years to come!

I have just been to the Zhongtian Sauna Club which is underneath the Maxdo centre in Honquiao. The exact location couldn't be easier to find. It is bang next door to Waggas, opposite the park. It is no more than three minutes from the Sheraton, four minutes from the Yangtze Renaissance and a two minute stroll from The City Centre Shopping Mall / Parkson. The entrance is thhrough a single glazed door down two flights of stairs. Just follow the signs.

Upon entry you will be greeted by a young man who will courteously guide you to the front desk. The lady and gentleman at the desk will ask if you want the oil massage or full service. I opted to go for the full service of course. But like a complete nimby I forgot to ask how much it was! Oh well.

I was taken by one of the young men to the locker area. They help you undress & hang your clothes up for you but this service is unobtrusive and very friendly. After hanging up your clothes you are taken to a private room with TV & served a drink. I believe that you have the option for taking a bath in the oversized pool that I noticed on the way in. The locker rooms and the private waiting room are comfortable, clean and smell great. So no problems there!

After a two minute wait I was taken to the fishbowl. This is a one way mirror about 25ft long & standard 7ft 6" high for viewing. The girls are all in their underwear & smile nicely. There was the usual mixture of good & bad ranging from a 3 to an 8. All of the girls look pretty young & there were about 20 in the line up which wasn't bad for 4. 00pm in the afternoon.

Having made my choice I was lead the the room. It was divided into two with a large shower area for soapland action & a comfortable bed area. The girl arrived shortly with her box of tricks which included standard fayre of anal probes, condoms etc.

The girl in question was a genuine 19 from Sezchuan. 5'3" great tits, a winning smile & great attitude but extremely limited english. First off I was offered the upsell of two girl action which I declined then there was was the soapland action which was all pretty standard. Sit on queening stoll, get covered in lather, completely washed with lots of body rubbing and slippery enabled insertions! She licked & rubbed and bit me all over. Every part of me received a very exotic rinse. After he suds came the really slippery stuff & onto the inflatable bed we went. Her tits were immaculate & I swear I could hang a shirt off her oversized cigar butt nipples. It was truly exciting as they literally tried to insert themselves into *every* crevice imaginable. She even did some girl on girl tribbing with me that was a complete bonus!

After about 15 minutes of that came another shower then onto the bed for some serious, AR, CB, DATY, face sitting, and CFS. I shot my load after about 20 minutes of one of the best sessions that I've ever had. There then followed another shower & the biggest let down of the whole show. The BBBJ was shockingly bad. She just had no idea at all. I tried to [politely get her more stoked up but to no avail. ! So we just did more FS! Notwithstanding that, she was dead cute & I would take her again simply because she was happy, fun, and very sexy.

The whole thing lasted about 75 minutes & I left with a happy smile on my face & a new girl that despite the bad BBBJ experience I'd like to see again simply because she's a lot of fun.

After another shower we finished up, got dressed & paid. The damage was 800RMB including drink. I should have haggled but to be honest I had other things on my mind.

So in all

Price 800
Looks 7
attitude 9
environment 8-9
performance 8 for FS 2 for BBBJ & 7 for Soapland
Staff 9
Easy to find 10
Selection of girls 7
number of girls 20
Availability of parking 9

Let me know whether you all have the same experience when you try the place.

All the best,

Sasparx

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Gualtier Malde
10-30-07, 16:50
She got some water from the toilet and licked my entire body...

I have to say this is a level of kink that is way over my line... and they say, "don't drink the water..." :-)

GM

Cocoon
10-30-07, 22:23
First, let me say, Cocoon, that I have no f*cking idea what you are talking about... :-)

But that aside, I will state first I totally agree with OAH (we've both argued on this side before, so no surprise), and Wadman (who I had the pleasure of sharing Shenzhen with recently.)

I also want to make it clear that in my previous posts, I never suggested either 1) haggling or 2) paying BELOW market. I think you tell the girl you pay market, give her the price, and that's it. If she doesn't like it, then you are done. This is not negotiation, this is setting expectations. If the girl argues, perhaps SHE is trying to negotiate. I just state the price, and either she accepts, or she walks, or I walk.

You guys who talk about better service for paying more are probably totally happy with the service level you get. Perhaps if you try the Chinese way you might be surprised. But OAH is right - don't NEGOTIATE. Just SET your price, at the market rate, and be done with it. That is the path to respect in Shanghai.

GMI was just making a general observation that there are all sorts of people who have different priorities. Nobody wants to pay more than they have to.

I think you are against idiots who pay way over the odds.

The tourist trap pricing thing is universal, because there is always another idiot who just came off the boat:

Effectively one born every minute.

Are you familiar with the Stargate SG-1 idea, that every Go'auld has the genetically inherited memory of its predecessor. Why don't you publish a monthly list of Market Pricing, as a form of gene therapy, so that new arrivals can be fortified against the gougers. See all those GM juniors and feel like a proud farther.

The Glass's Guide to WGs for Shanghai. Older models cost less, sad but true.

Cocoon

Ringer5
10-31-07, 13:53
I went back to the Hai Li spa this evening to check out the services. I asked at the desk for the full service shower massage, which was quoted at 1500RMB – swiftly reduced to 700 when I reminded him of our conversation last week, and its link to market rates (taking good note of the recent forum traffic on the subject! ). I was shown to a very clean and well-fitted room, waited a few minutes until a pretty girl arrived – I later found they only have three girls on duty, so was perhaps fortunate in the one they pre-selected for me. She was 23, from Qinghai, nice body and smile.

She did a pretty good job on the soapy airbed, and was very receptive to touching anywhere and everywhere. After drying off we moved through to the bedroom area. She knew I wasn’t that interested in an intensive massage, and quickly got down to business. That was when the "mood music" started – I don’t know what triggered it, or why it was a compilation of country songs – but it did add to the sense of occasion. "Rawhide" was a bit intense, and "South of the Border" arrived just after I had been, but it was different! She delivered a fit of the giggles after an orgasm, and we ended up with a good conversation, hugs and general GFE for a while. Overall, it was a pleasant, relaxing experience – good surroundings, nice girl, reasonable deal. Not as overwhelming as some of the more famous places described recently, but worth a visit when the circumstances suit. I hope they have the chance to develop a larger line-up of girls and stable pricing.

"Yesterday I found another opportunity in Pudong, rapidly becoming the sporting capital of this land! The location is a bit obscure, but I think it will be worth the effort once they get themselves organised. It's out in the Jinqiao / Ningqiao industrial and business area, not far from the yuppie heartland on Biyun Rd. Turn left out of the Ramada, east on Biyun Rd. Cross Jinqiao Rd, you are now on New Jinqiao Rd. , after less than 1km you will see some large tower blocks under construction and refurbishment. Turn left on Jinxiang Rd. On your right is a hotel (I forget the name. Tan Fu, perhaps? ), and at the base of the hotel is a typical row of shops and restaurants. Including the Hai Li Spa and Massage Centre. (This is not visible from New Jinqiao Road. You need to turn onto Jinxiang Road). /"

A-Todd
10-31-07, 16:36
This freebee thing is getting quite fun, the only problem is I can’t bring them to my apartment for some different reasons ;)

Have used Motel168 a couple of times, but find it a bit boring/inconvenient.

Do you guys have any favourite hotels or recommendations that are safe, nice and not too expensive (200-400 RMB) preferable in puxi?

Cheers
-T

Cocoon
10-31-07, 19:20
This freebee thing is getting quite fun, the only problem is I can’t bring them to my apartment for some different reasons ;)

Have used Motel168 a couple of times, but find it a bit boring/inconvenient.

Do you guys have any favourite hotels or recommendations that are safe, nice and not too expensive (200-400 RMB) preferable in puxi?

Cheers

THome Inn, JJ Inn etc. Seem to be doing afternoon rooms for around RMB100, check out before 6pm kind of thing. Never tried it myself, since like most people, I already have a full-time room when I'm in Shanghai.

The JJ Inn at 259 WuZhong Road/junction 953 Guilin Road is spanking new and ideal locationwise for the Wuzhong patch. Good for HongQiao airport too. RMB259 329 per night back in August 2007 launch price.

The Hoxton Hotel in London, near Old Street Tube station, has just started doing afternoon rooms. They say the rooms have Wi-Fi, and is ideal for business meetings. It's probably full of "business women" all afternoon by now.

Cocoon

Carl Martin
10-31-07, 20:29
It's real interesting to find a outcall massage service online in shanghai. Just so so, I make it and it's a easy way for those travel to This city named Shanghai. For example, we click http://www.google.com, then input keyword---"massage shanghai", you will find a lot of outcall service massage

It's probably a good idea to to start small, taking their pics fully clothed first. View the pics, then gradually remove the clothes. Would have better chance of success. I don't speak Chinese, so have harder time convincing them of anything. The girls in SZ, DG and CP would eventually allow full-nude pics with a lot of gesturing on my part. Chinese-speaking bros should have easier time convincing the girls. Then we may dial the call [Telephone Number deleted by Admin] to make an arrangement. You can tell the receiver which girl you like and ask if she is available. Of course, confirm the price and service they can provide.

OK, in general, Full services massage in shanghai or shanghai massage is 800RMB. The last step is to tell the guy your room number and your last name.

Why to tell the last name? In China, especial in Shanghai hotels, they need cards or last name to go upstair in lobby after 22:30PM.

OK, you will wait for your angel coming to your room and enjoy one massage night.

EDITOR's NOTE: This report was edited to remove personal telephone numbers in the text. Please do not post personal telephone numbers in the Forum. Instead, please invite other Forum Members to contact you for this information directly via the Forum's Private Messaging system. Thanks!

AZN Man
10-31-07, 21:49
I've come to love Green Tree Hotel when I come to shanghai. They have many locations in shanghai. Overnight rooms are in the 300rmb range. They have like an afternoon special of 98rmb for like 5 hours (1pm-6pm). There is one less than one block from the not to be mentioned, old X...Z pub. Their website is here:

http://www.greentree.com.cn/

AM


This freebee thing is getting quite fun, the only problem is I can’t bring them to my apartment for some different reasons ;)

Have used Motel168 a couple of times, but find it a bit boring/inconvenient.

Do you guys have any favourite hotels or recommendations that are safe, nice and not too expensive (200-400 RMB) preferable in puxi?

Cheers
-T

Blacklisted
11-01-07, 05:37
This freebee thing is getting quite fun, the only problem is I can’t bring them to my apartment for some different reasons ;)

Have used Motel168 a couple of times, but find it a bit boring/inconvenient.

Do you guys have any favourite hotels or recommendations that are safe, nice and not too expensive (200-400 RMB) preferable in puxi?

Cheers,

TSee your PM's mate. I have a solution for you.

Gualtier Malde
11-01-07, 06:08
Why don't you publish a monthly list of Market Pricing, as a form of gene therapy, so that new arrivals can be fortified against the gougers. See all those GM juniors and feel like a proud farther.

The Glass's Guide to WGs for Shanghai. Older models cost less, sad but true.

Cocoon

Long ago I suggested to Jackson, and lobbied for, a "sticky post" mechanism where we could stick one Frequently Asked Questions list posting at the top of the thread, and it would STAY there.

Jackson's response (apparently, he never gave a direct response) was the totally disfunctional Reports of Distinction thread. (I had the brief joy of spoofing the absurdity of that concept a few weeks ago, with my bogus "EDITOR'S NOTE" tags. Jackson promptly (and thankfully, temporarily) punished me by requiring that all my posts be reviewed.)

I'll state once more for the record that the whole problem of RTFF, and many questions like this one about pricing, would be forever solved with a simple sticky post system for a single post - a FAQ for the thread. (At least then RTFF would mean Read The F*cking FAQ... :-)

GM

Herr Pollon
11-01-07, 06:50
I'll state once more for the record that the whole problem of RTFF, and many questions like this one about pricing, would be forever solved with a simple sticky post system for a single post - a FAQ for the thread. (At least then RTFF would mean Read The F*cking FAQ... :-)

GM

After many hours at the computer it is hard to RTFF and not miss something important...

And The search system requires to spell right... something difficult with chinese names...

Albert Punter
11-01-07, 19:02
Sorry but I disagree.

When you plan a trip to a destination start to RTTF, so by reading the reports posted day by day for some time you get familiar with the mongering scene, and in case of need you can always ask appropriate questions.
Obviously you cannot pretend to learn everything by RTFF at airport waiting to board a flight to your business (or mongering) destination.

IMHO search system works well.
On several occasions I proved that to some lazy members asking outrageous questions.
Then I agree with you that not everybody knows pin yin, so maybe search is not easy in this thread. However, some good will always helps dramatically.


After many hours at the computer it is hard to RTFF and not miss something important...

And The search system requires to spell right... something difficult with chinese names...

Mark17
11-01-07, 19:52
Thanks Sasparx.

Even though I am going on to Thailand, I decided to give this place a try. I love a good soapy.

I asked the hotel to give you directions to the Maxdo Shopping Mall. It is near the old airport, but a nice part of town. The concierge did not seem to know the place, but I told him the address. 86 Xianxia Lu, Near Zunyi Lu. Then he knew. The taxi took me right there. 18RMB from the Hilton about 10 minutes or so.

It is not in the mall, but right next door on the main street. Next door to Waggas witch is a restaurant, big sign outside. They sauna has some signs in the street as you approach. It is no more than three minutes from the Sheraton, four minutes from the Yangtze Renaissance and a two minutes from The City Centre Shopping Mall / Parkson.

You enter, and go down two flights of steps. Then walk in a corridor, not nice, but do not be alarmed. Enter the sauna, first class place. I asked what they offer, and they said oil massage, or full service, "you can do what you want with the girl. They guy said. How much? . 780. I told him I heard it was 700, but he would not go down. Like other sauna's take your clothes off, and into a locker, pj's and move on. Waited 2 minutes in a small room, offered me a drink and asked for a beer (no extra charge for the beer at the end). Then through a door with a security code, down stairs another desk, but ushered me past to look into the fishbowl. About 20 girls to choose from, and about six 8-9's on my scale.

I like big breast, and there were several there, but this one girl caught my eye. Sweet looking, long wavy hair, with some light streaks in it. Decision made.

The room has a nice bed, and a separated shower room with the air mattress. There is a chair in the shower area, that is split in two so when you sit in it your ass is between, . Hmmm She was an A cup but lovely. And nipples that just were waiting to be kissed. Nice soapy sponge bath, and sweet hugging. Rinsed me, and gave a slow arousing BJ. She was good. Let me take that back. Not good. Excellent. She is from Hainan, and said she was 19. I think so.

Some sweet time, then onto the air matress. If you have not been to Thailand to experience this, you have to try. She pours a thick soapy solution on you, then slips and slides in every way possible. Another BJ, and she made me shoot my load. I do not normally do this. But wow she was good. She was disappointed, and pointed to her puss, but I said, OK, no problem. I can do again and she smiled. Rinsed off then into the bed. Relaxed, as she figured I needed time, but I was ready. Smoked a cigarette and drank some of my beer, the she started another BJ. Nice mirror on the wall and ceiling, so you can lay back and not miss anything. Although, she was good at making eye contact.

I asked for the condom, and she said more. Indicating suck, but I did not want to come again. Asked me to get on top, and she was tight. Damn me again, so tight that I came within 5 minutes. There are many times I do not cum, but something about this girl. Nice setting. Tight. Great smile, no fat on her body. , and. Well, can't write a book about this. (forgot to mention, nice music piped in too). Cuddled, and relaxed.

Her English was limited, so she tried to use the translator on her phone to say some things at the end. Wanted to get her phone #, but she did not have a pen in her bag. And I did not take my phone in with me. Her number at the sauna is 931. But YMMV. There were several there I could have had fun with. They do give you a 2 girl option second girl is 2 or 300 less.

May try to stop by tomorrow for a second round. Price is a little steep, but for me well worth it.

She gave me a card, and I see they have a website. All Chinese though.

http://www.touch-net.net/nakada/info.htm

Gualtier Malde
11-02-07, 06:03
After many hours at the computer it is hard to RTFF and not miss something important...

And The search system requires to spell right... something difficult with chinese names...

I think you are supporting the call for a sticky post - a FAQ. But I would say that with the current forum, it really is of huge benefit for a future traveler to read as much of this forum as possible.

Think of this forum as an interesting book. It really is a pretty good read.

I will admit that before my first trip to China I actually read the entire forum - it was a little smaller then, but still a LOT of posts. By the time I arrived in Shanghai and met the monger then known as Darkman (read the old posts to figure out who that is now...) I felt I knew him already. The city wasn't that unfamiliar either. I arrived with a level of comfort I had never felt in a new city before.

It was a commitment, but I knew I'd be coming (and cumming) here a lot, so I felt the investment was worth it - and it was highly entertaining reading, that paid off many times over my visits.

I have never had a problem with search. Yes, chinese names are a problem, but if you look back on the newbie "RTFF" questions, rarely do you find a question that would require an obscure, pinyin-based search. Most are questions about hotels or the areas surrounding hotels, all of which are easy to find here.

Until recently, there hasn't been much on the board regarding Pudong. When I wrote my Monger's Guide to Shanghai, I knew next to nothing about the east side of the river. But that is rapidly changing, and there is now a lot of information available for the "new half" of Shanghai.

So lobby for a FAQ, but in the mean time, read, read, read, and search. It immeasurably improves your Shanghai experience.

GM

Herr Pollon
11-02-07, 08:28
Sorry but I disagree.

When you plan a trip to a destination start to RTTF, so by reading the reports posted day by day for some time you get familiar with the mongering scene, and in case of need you can always ask appropriate questions.
Obviously you cannot pretend to learn everything by RTFF at airport waiting to board a flight to your business (or mongering) destination.



For me at least, it is very easy to confuse two different locations being Chinese names so similar.

When I first came I couldn´t tell the difference between a Zhong I was reading or that Tong that I had read in the previous page.

That said, Who was last Wednesday at ZAPATAS` Halloween???? Best wday ever , sooooooo much fun.

As usual, Pros, semipros, and a few "normal" Chinese Asian Girls Plus pro Russians and some expat .

Fritobugger
11-03-07, 13:53
Nightwing reporting in here on yet another find in Pudong. I'm beginning to realize that any place that says Sauna or Club (Hui Suo) in Chinese must offer special services. I happened to come out of a meeting in the Jin Qiao Pudong area, and walked by Jin Tai Road to see if there was any action in the middle of the day. Not finding anything I liked, I walked to the end of Jin Tai Road. Directly in front of me, on Jin Qiao Road, I see the Jin Qiao Da Fan Dian or Jin Qiao Hotel. On the left side of this building, right above the Bank of China, I see a "Jin Qiao Sauna" sign, pointing me up to the 4th floor. I go around the back of the Bank of China building, find an elevator going upstairs to the fourth floor, and there's a sauna operating inside this building. Though the bathing area looks a little run down, the people inside knew exactly what I was "coming" for.

After the bath, I was led into the back rooms, and a mamasan (Ms. Xiong) appeared. She begins to tell me that they have lots of girls, well-trained, and that they have two offerrings... one at 500 RMB which is a massage and BJ/FS service, and 600 RMB, which also includes a lot of things including coca-cola and I think red wine! I only tried the 500 RMB option. I got a very attractive 24 year old from Dong Bei, and she was very submissive in all positions. After the deed, we chatted, at which time she mentions that their service is 24 hours a day! So, if I feel the need at 5:00AM, and I'm in Jin Qiao, I can get it taken care of! I promised this girl that I would come back for the 600 RMB option next time.

So, for those of you who need to stay nearby the Ramada Hotel in Pudong, here is another option if you don't want to hit Jintai Road.

Address: Next to the Jin Qiao Hotel 上海金桥大饭店
1379 Jin Qiao Road, 金桥路, 1379 号, 浦东, 上海
Go to the Bank of China building next door. Go up to the fourth floor.
Cost: 500RMB/600RMB.

NightwingI can confirm the 24 hour item. I went there on Friday at 5:00AM and the Mama-san woke up one of the girls just so I could fuck her.

Not the nicest place in town but I like the regular bed and the 24 hour service.

Speer
11-04-07, 09:30
Well I finally arrived to learn I will probably not get my free time as I desire and have more travelling to do. Oh well...

Anyway still going to have enough fun in Shanghai. Staying at the Shanghai Centralstar Hotel on 839 Renmin Road. Pretty much center Shanghai. Standard room is offered for 650 (about) but I got them down to 498. After arriving in the room I know why I had little trouble doing this. The place has everything but is just a bit run down. Can be worse though. As I've stayed in many 4* hotels for same or less money I can tell you this is maybe a 3*. Enough about crappy rooms though because this forum is about something else. First day went straight for massage floor after arriving. All sesions are for 60 min. Standard chinese massage is 88RMB on the 4th floor and 158RMB in the room. Nothing special was offered at this point except for the 2** RMB oil massage. I figured girl in your room ball in your court. I was right. Massage started out crap but I was really having some back trouble so I think I'm paying for an hour let her do an hours work before I look at her and ask for more. Apparently she could actually massage because after about 5 minutes the massage turned out to be a good one. Bad start was probably a hint. In the last 15 minutes or so she started to "accidantally" touch certain areas to arrouse me. Anyway that worked and she stoped. So I'm thinkin here comes the upgrade. Again I was right but also wrong. This girl is apperantly a teaser. Young, good looking and makin you horny. She offers fs massage in your room with pretty girl 600. Now I point at her but she makes it verry clear it will be another girl and she only does massage. Pissed off I say too expencive and she goes down straight to 400. I later find an in room menu for massage stating a special for 400 so I guess she was just trying to make an extra buck. I said ok send someone up. A girl shows up looking ok but just having one of those bad unwashed smells I can't describe (I'm smelling this as I opened the door to let her in, so really bad). I wasn't having that so sent her away even thought she was cute as promissed. Will go to the 4th floor again tonight and see if it is possible to pick a girl. (I don't even know how many there are so..) Hotel also has a KTV with many pretty girls. I travel alone and renting a room at 1000RMB and paying for a few girls to tease you is not really an option. I did walk in to see if there was a normal bar which I prefer but no go. I did notice that (it was saturday at 10pm so prime time I would think) that when I walked in at least 35 girls walked in from everywhere to have a look. I think I was the only customer (potential) that walked in that night. Also left after seeing the price list, spending a few bucks is not a problem, spending it on a room with 2 or 3 girls with whom you can't communicate and will run up your bill, and still leave you to go to bed horny, I just can't do. Maybe if your with friends and the bill is split you can have yourself a good time but not alone.

Walked into town to find a bar which worked, but backfired a bit. Found a beer bar near the bund but is now a lot of construction so not really visible. I was 1 of 2 and later 3 customers. Now they have many types of beer as the name suggest so I start happy and order a Heineken. Straight up a girl comes up askes for a drink so I know where this is going. I talk with her a bit she puts up the story of college neading money blablabla. (on the plus side; of the 10 girls in the bar at least 8 spoke english enough to have a verry good conversation with) I started to tell her what I thought of the type of bar she was working at and she agreed it sucked but she needs to eat as well. Well I obliged and bought her a Heineken as well of which she took maybe two sips. Looked over my shoulder and started to talk to another customer. Felt sorry for him as he had four girl around him drinkin what he was. Learned he is from canada and he walked in only 10 minutes before I did. As most girls spoke english and the boss didn't I had some fun really tearing the place down verbally with everybody (including boss who didn't know wtf I was going on about) laughing. Played some dice and won so the girl got drunk and I didn't, which pissed her off. Drank a few beers and made it very clear I was not buying any for the girls who just act nice and run your bill up. This was eventually accepted but still had a bill of 550RMB. A Heineken will set you back 50 which is way too much. Now to het to the point (yes there actually is one) they also offer for the girls to go with you to the hotel. I told them without hearing the price that they were too expencive too which I got a wink and a "you are probably right". This place is in white town Shanghai (only a five minute walk to Attica where the Canadian and I went next) and only gets outsider customers which just has to run pricing up. But because all girls were early 20's and good looking and the street being under constuction I might go back and find out what they want for their time. Having only three customers on prime time saturday must lower pricinf for take out I would think and the girls are really pretty.

Just had fun at Attica, but arrived too late. 1am and only a bunch of guys left. Some ugly/old wg some young and pretty but way too expensive for my taste. Spent about the same on beer here as in the club but you get local not import. Attica is expensive but at least they just rip you off straight. No pushing for anything. So if you can go out and not drink anything and still have fun just pay the cover charge and your good to go.

More info on the hotel soon

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Nightwing88
11-04-07, 09:37
Thanks to Ringer5 for the information on this one. I'm impressed that you found this place, because it never would have occurred to me to look out this far! I just went to try out the Hai Li Sauna or 海力会所 located on the corner of New Jin Qiao Road and Jin Xiang Road, and it gets my thumbs up. It is a relatively new sauna next to a new hotel, and has been open for less than a month. When you get there, you make sure you ask for the "quan tao" or 全套 package. The attendant takes you up a small winding staircase up to the 3rd floor. There are two types of rooms up there. One type has a air mattress on the floor. The other type has a standing jacuzzi type lay-down tub in the middle of the bathing room. Each bath also has an adjoining room with a double-size bed. The girl I picked was a 20 year old from Sichuan called "Ye Zi" and I was in the room with the jacuzzi style bed. Ye Zi disrobed, showing off a very healthy set of 33B's. She gave me a very nice bath while in the jacuzzi, and then we went to the bed area where she massaged me with her breasts for about 10 minutes. Then, we went straight into action, doing all sorts of positions, until I couldn't take it any more and shot my load. We went back to the jacuzzi, where she continued with a nice massage, and even washed my hair. After that, it was over. I paid a little more than Ringer5 (880RMB), but it was a very relaxing time, and I didn't feel like haggling this time.

What was interesting is that as I was about to enter her, the country music came on. It was a nice touch making love to a women while Elvis Presley was playing in the background!

If you are staying in the Tanfu hotel next door, the rates are 420 RMB a night, and the girls in the sauna can do housecalls up to your room as well. Also, downstairs next to the sauna are a Yonghe restaurant, a Ajisen Ramen restaurant, and soon to be a Papa John's restaurant as well. So, if you need to stay in Jinqiao for a night or two, this is a good location to be.

I think it's great that all these types of places are available now in Pudong! It makes it easier for we who live here to continue this hobby on the east side of the "pu"!

Nightwing

Zhuren
11-04-07, 11:32
I think you are supporting the call for a sticky post - a FAQ.

I've discussed the well-known concept of stickies with Jackson, and he can't. It's a problem of the forum software. Forum software usually is ordered into sections (at ISG: Countries,) threads (at ISG: cities ,) and posts (at ISG: reports.) Usually, only threads can be made a sticky. Posts can't. So the only stickies/FAQs that would be possible would be on a per-country basis.

Usually, if we ask Jackson often enough, he opens another thread, such as "China Women," or "Living in China," or "Beijing Hotels". It's up to the community to keep those alive and near the top with updated info. If somebody wants to take on "The China FAQ," then I'm sure Jackson would accomodate the request. But if it's not kept alive and current, it will sink into oblivion.

I like Jackson's simple concept of fresh content that bubbles to the top and stale content, that sinks to the ground.

Traveler1234
11-04-07, 13:48
On the thailand forum, there is a "FAQ" - it is old and not updated. You might want to discuss with Jackson to set up something similar and ask him to permit a few of the Masters of China to have access to update/amend/change over time....just an idea.

Fritobugger
11-04-07, 14:12
Tried the sauna at World Plaza basement level 2 yesterday. Pool area not as nice as the one behind Wagas but that is all. The rooms are big and great. I went with girl 19 and she is freaking amazing. Very much a PSE. No massage. Straight to the sex. A bit of deepthroating. Some serious hard humping for 30 minutes. She is wild and juice is flowing. She has a great rack. Finished and then a bit of snuggling. I started kissing and stroking her beautiful body. A this point she starts rubbing her clit! She grinding and moaning so I put my cock in her mouth. She is sucking my cock like crazy and rubbing herself! I blow on her face and in her mouth but she just keeps rubbing until she gets herself off again with my jizz just running down her cheek. She swallows the rest.

She was great. A real trooper. Quite an over achiever.

I will try to get her everytime.

Albert Punter
11-04-07, 21:23
When I read



Greetings everyone,
I've started this new thread to provide a centralized location to catalog the Forum's best travel reports.
...
Jackson

I was under the impression Report of Distinction thread was dedicated to posts which are considered best for type or number of information given, and not for writing style ...
Furthermore, Jackson suggests it cannot be polluted with useless chit chat.



Please note: In order for this thread to be effective, it cannot turn into a discussion forum. I don't want to have to be so tough about this, but any reports that do not include a link to another report will be deleted.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

So, don't we already have the location for "sticky" posts ?
When I go to a new destination I always read RoD thread, am I wrong ?


I've discussed the well-known concept of stickies with Jackson, and he can't. It's a problem of the forum software. Forum software usually is ordered into sections (at ISG: Countries,) threads (at ISG: cities ,) and posts (at ISG: reports.) Usually, only threads can be made a sticky. Posts can't. So the only stickies/FAQs that would be possible would be on a per-country basis.

Usually, if we ask Jackson often enough, he opens another thread, such as "China Women," or "Living in China," or "Beijing Hotels". It's up to the community to keep those alive and near the top with updated info. If somebody wants to take on "The China FAQ," then I'm sure Jackson would accomodate the request. But if it's not kept alive and current, it will sink into oblivion.

I like Jackson's simple concept of fresh content that bubbles to the top and stale content, that sinks to the ground.

Herr Pollon
11-05-07, 04:05
Isn´t Report of Distinction thread supposed to cover ALL China and not only Shanghai??

Anyway, it seems the only way is to be careful when RingTFF.

WinteRain
11-05-07, 04:58
Tried the sauna at World Plaza basement level 2 yesterday. Pool area not as nice as the one behind Wagas but that is all. The rooms are big and great. I went with girl 19 and she is freaking amazing. Very much a PSE. No massage. Straight to the sex. A bit of deepthroating. Some serious hard humping for 30 minutes. She is wild and juice is flowing. She has a great rack. Finished and then a bit of snuggling. I started kissing and stroking her beautiful body. A this point she starts rubbing her clit! She grinding and moaning so I put my cock in her mouth. She is sucking my cock like crazy and rubbing herself! I blow on her face and in her mouth but she just keeps rubbing until she gets herself off again with my jizz just running down her cheek. She swallows the rest.

She was great. A real trooper. Quite an over achiever.

I will try to get her everytime.Wow. That's some crazy shit. I'm gonna make a long taxi trip to Pudong.

GlenEagle
11-05-07, 15:01
Wow. That's some crazy shit. I'm gonna make a long taxi trip to Pudong.

A faster and cheaper way to travel there is to take Metro Line 2, which stops right in Basement 1 of World Plaza. It is just one level above the sauna. The station is known as Dong Chang Station ( 东昌站 )
Have Fun.
GlenEagle

Lao Ma
11-06-07, 10:23
I may have once recommended a particular bbs girl in the past, but I don't recall it. Anyway, I have a recommendation now. In the farthest west bbs on the Kangding Lu block that's peppered with parlors - the one on the north side of the street with the etched glass door that says "Push" in english on the outside, that you step down into, there is a sweet thing named Xiao Nan from Shenyang that's just got the most perfect set of D cups I've ever encountered. She's still pretty young, because they haven't started dropping yet. (they will). Anyway, great tata's, great BJ, great lay, cute face. I'd put her at a 9 on the BBS scale. Well worth a 300 rmb deposit. Enjoys the taste of man-aise too, if you know what I mean.

My directions are whacked because I never pay attention. but it's at the other end of the block from Shaanxi Lu. Very discreet entrance - no glowing brothel lights or anything. The place usually has 8-10 girls, most all of them are above average and leagues beyond the Pub girls.

Tony Soprano 1
11-06-07, 12:10
I visited the pub which shall remain nameless last night. Shanghai members will know the place. Had not been there for a couple months.
They remodeled.......again! Quite a bit smaller now. The lounge room only has a couple of large booths. There is also a full bar in the lounge room now. The back area is still the same, four booths. There were only five girls about with me being the only customer at about 9:30. Xiao Mei is still there.
Movie night was "Pulp Fiction"
Talked to the Papasan. He took the rest of the space to open up a DVD store. You can now see that there are two doors at the entrance. I think it will be open next week.
Soon, you will be able to pick up a few DVD's, coming or going. Pun intended.
Prices are the same as always.
Cheers to all,
Tony

Gualtier Malde
11-07-07, 06:22
When I read



I was under the impression Report of Distinction thread was dedicated to posts which are considered best for type or number of information given, and not for writing style ...
Furthermore, Jackson suggests it cannot be polluted with useless chit chat.



So, don't we already have the location for "sticky" posts ?
When I go to a new destination I always read RoD thread, am I wrong ?

Unfortunately, it is Jackson's current policy to recommend dumping any long post from a regular member into the RoD, regardless of the quality of the content. I happen to know for a fact of at least one completely fictional post in the RoD, so absurd that it is unbelievable, yet Jackson's moderators duly nominated it for a RoD.

Jackon's policy insures that the RoD thread has information from the least trusted sources on the forum, first time or low time posters who have not established their bone fides for posting "authoritative" content.

IMO the RoD is not the right solution for the newbie.

GM

Sofa King Cheap
11-07-07, 19:51
I think I recommended this place once. Definitely all the stock have always been at least 6s and above.


I may have once recommended a particular bbs girl in the past, but I don't recall it. Anyway, I have a recommendation now. In the farthest west bbs on the Kangding Lu block that's peppered with parlors - the one on the north side of the street with the etched glass door that says "Push" in english on the outside, that you step down into, there is a sweet thing named Xiao Nan from Shenyang that's just got the most perfect set of D cups I've ever encountered. She's still pretty young, because they haven't started dropping yet. (they will). Anyway, great tata's, great BJ, great lay, cute face. I'd put her at a 9 on the BBS scale. Well worth a 300 rmb deposit. Enjoys the taste of man-aise too, if you know what I mean.

My directions are whacked because I never pay attention. but it's at the other end of the block from Shaanxi Lu. Very discreet entrance - no glowing brothel lights or anything. The place usually has 8-10 girls, most all of them are above average and leagues beyond the Pub girls.

Britabroad
11-08-07, 01:11
Dear members,

I have been viewing the reports for many months, and now feel it is time to contribute.

Firstly, I had a very enjoyable visit to the Maxdo sauna last night. Arrived around 20:00 and was quoted 880 for 70 minutes. Note: there was a very clear explanation given in English, but when I indicated I thought the priice was 780, the response was "only with the coupon". I did not investigate further, but took the 880.
Chose 933 from the back of the line up, mainly on facial features. When she appeard found she had very small tits. However, what she lacked in appendages she more than made up for in attitude. Very good soapy, DATY (enthusiastic) followed by BBBJ, 69, some good fucking, and then pulled out, took off the cover and straddled her and gave her a good face and mouth shot (willingly taken).
Nice clean up and a massage to follow.

Secondly, I have been a long time member of AFF (or xmatch). Several good encounters with singles and MILFs. Presently still servicing two on a regular basis. However there is a problem with the code needed to send messages to postees, this pop up has been blocked by the government. The solution is to place a contact method, (number or e-mail address) in the posting itself. This is supposed to be banned by the site, but they seem to be turning a blind eye to it.

Finally, I work in Jiading (around 50 k north west of Shangai). I have a lot of experiences with BBS (some very down and dirty). If anyone has knowledge of a good sauna, (similar to maxdo) in Jiading, I would be keen to know.

Happy mongering

Blacklisted
11-08-07, 07:40
Unfortunately, it is Jackson's current policy to recommend dumping any long post from a regular member into the RoD, regardless of the quality of the content. I happen to know for a fact of at least one completely fictional post in the RoD, so absurd that it is unbelievable, yet Jackson's moderators duly nominated it for a RoD.

Jackon's policy insures that the RoD thread has information from the least trusted sources on the forum, first time or low time posters who have not established their bone fides for posting "authoritative" content.

IMO the RoD is not the right solution for the newbie.

GMHave to agree. I see the ROD as a marketing device aimed at making the newbie very rapidly feel part of the community and thereby willing to pay the annual membership fee.

As a source of the latest class A information - it unfortunately very rapidly lost it's value.

At the end of the day, this is a business, and I'm betting it's starting to become a pretty profitable one for it's owners.

Part of this reason is that it still fulfills it's requirements well - it's a great community of like minded people and a fantastic resource for finding girls for sex.

But if you want the gold, forget the ROD; it's back to good old fashioned digging, using the search function.

Sasparx
11-08-07, 09:34
Dear All,

Has anybody tried the New Lucky Garden Sauna virtually next door (left hand side) to the Howard Johnson's All Suites Hotel? I have passed it a number of times and would be interested if someone had scouted it?

Also, is Waves still open? Nobody seems to post reports about it any more.

Best,

Sasparx

Vegetable
11-08-07, 16:06
I was just in the area of Jiangsu rd. And I had some time to kill before I had to meet some friends so I decided to give a try the BJ Factory at Xuanhua lu. Went in, everything, was pretty normal, girl informed me that they only do BJ. Told her that I already knew. But when the time to talk about the price came, she quoted 200rmb. Wtf. I told her that "my friend" had explicitly told me that it was 130rmb. Still would not move. At the end I just left.

Has anybody been there lately? Is it really 200 or they were just applying the laowai fee?

Happy mongering

Veg

Tony Soprano 1
11-10-07, 02:44
Lao Ma was right on the money with his description of the talent at this particular BBS. Easy to find, east of Shanxi Lu. There are quite a few BBS on this street.
Stopped by Thursday night. 8 girls, nothing was below a 7 and there was a few 9's IMHO. The Papasan was not exactly friendly to me though, probably due to my lack of Mandarin skills.
The girls were hot, most had great racks, and as Lao Ma stated leagues above the pub girls.

Thanks for sharing Lao Ma.

Cheers to all,
Tony

Bob Builder
11-10-07, 10:40
I may have once recommended a particular bbs girl in the past, but I don't recall it. Anyway, I have a recommendation now. In the farthest west bbs on the Kangding Lu block that's peppered with parlors - the one on the north side of the street with the etched glass door that says "Push" in english on the outside, that you step down into, there is a sweet thing named Xiao Nan from Shenyang that's just got the most perfect set of D cups I've ever encountered. She's still pretty young, because they haven't started dropping yet. (they will). Anyway, great tata's, great BJ, great lay, cute face. I'd put her at a 9 on the BBS scale. Well worth a 300 rmb deposit. Enjoys the taste of man-aise too, if you know what I mean.

My directions are whacked because I never pay attention. but it's at the other end of the block from Shaanxi Lu. Very discreet entrance - no glowing brothel lights or anything. The place usually has 8-10 girls, most all of them are above average and leagues beyond the Pub girls.

I thought you weren't going to post here anymore cause you had a hang up with young gals cause you got young nieces, blah, blah, blah, and everyone here was a deviant.

What, have your nieces grown up in the last year and you discovered you are just as deviated as the rest of us here? After reading your posts, you just seem to get joy in shoveling it on heavy to others here. LOL!

Skyskyblue
11-10-07, 17:39
Hey all, I'm surprised that these forums exist, I've been in shanghai 2.5 months here visiting a friend/relaxation/vacation and I've been going around the city doing some of the things you guys have posted so its weird to think that I have people to relate too!

Anyways I've been to the maxto mall sauna, very nice, place is funny for me cause I'm korean-american and this place is tended more for japanese people so after I tell them "wa sure hangou-megou ren" (I'm a korean-american person) they still speak japanese to me haha (hi!!!/yes!!!). Oh well, when I left they gave me 3 slips of 80 Rmb off coupon so I guess that brings the price down to 800 after the 19:00/7 pm 880 rmb price. I’ll post the coupons pics later.

Been to a BBS a couple times, those seem to be the best experiences because you never know what to expect. Also its great to know the market price reading the reports because ever since I got here, my friend has been explaining that chinese will try to make as much profit off you, so knowing the market value of things in shops and stores will get you pass beating around the bush.

Finally, I'm in shanghai till wednesday (nov 14th). I know I'm going to come back to shanghai sometime in the future, instead of finding fellow mongers on the forum before I come back, I'd definitely like to meet some people and go some more adventures/experiences before I leave. Drop me a message if you guys are free the next 3 days (sun, mon, tues) and wanna hit up some places together. I posted in the other forum for travel plans also.

I’ve also been trying to find a cheap place also to stay to take home a chick for either a couple hours or overnight so if you guys know more places other than motel168 and the tree motel place.

Lamalavida
11-11-07, 04:15
I have been living here in Shanghai for about 3 months now, and have dabble in BBS and the Pub (with no name). I have also tried out a gal from Tongren Lu. I can say that I have only had good experiences so far and am hoping to keep the streak alive.

Anyhow, I really like Tongren Lu, Manhattan bar specifically. However, I live far away and at times just don't want LT and have to worry about getting the gal out of my place the next morning etc. SO I was wondering if there are any ST hotels near Tongren Lu, within walking distance. This would be great.

Lamalavida
11-11-07, 04:25
This is my second post in less than 10 minutes, but I need some help. I am staying in the Pudong area, however not near the river where all the action seems to be. ARe there any recommendations closer to either Century Park or the Science and Technology Museum. Sometimes I want to get out for a little afternoon delight, but don't want to go to too many great efforts.

Thanks

Gualtier Malde
11-11-07, 05:59
I have been living here in Shanghai for about 3 months now, and have dabble in BBS and the Pub (with no name). I have also tried out a gal from Tongren Lu. I can say that I have only had good experiences so far and am hoping to keep the streak alive.

Anyhow, I really like Tongren Lu, Manhattan bar specifically. However, I live far away and at times just don't want LT and have to worry about getting the gal out of my place the next morning etc. SO I was wondering if there are any ST hotels near Tongren Lu, within walking distance. This would be great.

There is a 168 a few blocks north of nanjing lu on (I think) hua shan lu (the street may change names along the way, I forget.

You could also try the bailemen hotel on the corner of huashan lu and nanjing lu (across from the jingan temple).

Both should be reasonably cheap, but I can't really vouch for the for ST use. I did stay at the Bailemen for one night, but I prefer higher end hotels, just a personal preference...

GM

Bonzo1
11-11-07, 06:06
There is a 168 a few blocks north of nanjing lu on (I think) hua shan lu (the street may change names along the way, I forget.

You could also try the bailemen hotel on the corner of huashan lu and nanjing lu (across from the jingan temple).

Both should be reasonably cheap, but I can't really vouch for the for ST use. I did stay at the Bailemen for one night, but I prefer higher end hotels, just a personal preference...

GM

I believe you'd also need your passport to check in, which is probably not a good idea (to be carrying your passport around on TR lu late at night, nor to be leaving the paper trail).

Fritobugger
11-11-07, 06:58
This is my second post in less than 10 minutes, but I need some help. I am staying in the Pudong area, however not near the river where all the action seems to be. ARe there any recommendations closer to either Century Park or the Science and Technology Museum. Sometimes I want to get out for a little afternoon delight, but don't want to go to too many great efforts.

ThanksFirst RTFF. Look for World Plaza Basement Level 2, or the place behind Wagas at Nextage, or the sauna next to Jin Qiao Hotel. All in Pudong and all have good service.

I went to the sauna next to Jin Qiao Hotel again yesterday morning and had a great time with a super cute girl from Inner Mongolia. She is #55. Very nice body, cute face and a great attitude. Ride'them cowgirl!

Travelin Guy
11-11-07, 08:55
Is Waves still open? ~SasparxYeah, its still open and in the same location. Much is the same as before with a nice staff who make you feel welcome, a wonderful sauna area with multiple soaking pools, one of the best dry saunas in Shanghai.

But the rooms for the action have been renovated and no longer have the wet area in half the room as before. So no in-room soapy which I miss very much. The lineup of girls was respectable, with a couple of young cuties in the order of 9's, while there were at least 5-6 more girls in the in 7-8.5 category.

My girl ended up being too new and fresh and wasn't really into the BBBJ that I was thinking about, so I had just an average experience. I probably won't return, there are too many other saunas in Shanghai that offer what I want for the same or even better price. 209 Wulumuchi Lu comes to mind.

Lao Ma
11-11-07, 09:00
bobster:

my man. you seem to be carrying this dislike around for me still, several months after posting an identical harsh post about me. what's up with that ? how exactly does me using the word "young" equate to "****" or "teenage" ? i haven't changed - i still think that grown men who have sex with girls who are still teenages are perverts and deserve to have their balls cut off. you still seem to get all upset that i feel that way. which speaks volumes. i don't know you from the man on the moon, so i can't say if you are or are not a pervert. you like banging teen girls ? then you're a pervert. you don't, then you aren't a pervert. understand ?

dont' get your panties all bunched up - if you want to get all personal and insulting, that's fine, send me a pm. otherwise let it go - i expressed my opinion a long time ago, and that seems to have become a bee in your bonnet.

Mr Durex
11-11-07, 10:02
Hi to all,

After surviving my first time in shanghai only with reading the very good posts & and guides in this forum I decided to subscribe to support ISG.

I came in a lot situations where the guides from here where the only help that kept me out of situations that could have ended bad. THX for sharing all this guys.

Next week I will visit shanghai the second time and I really looking forward to this. Many posts here describe a place called "the pub" but I did not find an exact location info.

I am not so familiar with shanghai and need something I can show the taxi driver. Can one send me a PM please.

Kind regards,

Mr Durex

Nightwing88
11-11-07, 13:48
This is my second post in less than 10 minutes, but I need some help. I am staying in the Pudong area, however not near the river where all the action seems to be. ARe there any recommendations closer to either Century Park or the Science and Technology Museum. Sometimes I want to get out for a little afternoon delight, but don't want to go to too many great efforts.

Thanks

(takes out map), hm, let's see, you may not live right next door any of the reported massage parlors in this forum. But you are an easy 10 minute cab ride (under 15 RMB) to places like the Ming Dian sauna, the Merrylin Hotel, or even the Badong sauna inside the Marriott. You could even hop into the Metro Line 2 and take the subway to the Dong Chang Road exit to try the Hong Meng sauna inside the World Plaza (level B2); it's only two stops away from the Science and Technology Museum.

Also, I would welcome you to try out any of the places that say "massage" or "sauna" on the street. I'm convinced that almost all of the places offer some sort of services to the interested consumer; we just don't have enough time or money to visit them all! And if you get lucky, please report on them and let us know! Have fun, and stay safe!

Nightwing

GlenEagle
11-11-07, 14:07
Anyhow, I really like Tongren Lu, Manhattan bar specifically. However, I live far away and at times just don't want LT and have to worry about getting the gal out of my place the next morning etc. SO I was wondering if there are any ST hotels near Tongren Lu, within walking distance. This would be great.

Most of Green Tree Motels provide half day rate between 1.00 to 6.00 pm for the price of RMB 99. I have not come across any hotels that provide short time rate after 6.00 pm. There is a Green Tree Motel next to Yanan Hotel along Yanan Road, it is less than 1 km from Tongren lu.

http://www.sh.edushi.com/

Above is a link to a website which it provides 3-D map of Shanghai, it is a very useful tool and you can even measure the distance from one location to another.

Have Fun
GlenEagle

Lamalavida
11-11-07, 14:08
(takes out map), hm, let's see, you may not live right next door any of the reported massage parlors in this forum. But you are an easy 10 minute cab ride (under 15 RMB) to places like the Ming Dian sauna, the Merrylin Hotel, or even the Badong sauna inside the Marriott. You could even hop into the Metro Line 2 and take the subway to the Dong Chang Road exit to try the Hong Meng sauna inside the World Plaza (level B2); it's only two stops away from the Science and Technology Museum.

Also, I would welcome you to try out any of the places that say "massage" or "sauna" on the street. I'm convinced that almost all of the places offer some sort of services to the interested consumer; we just don't have enough time or money to visit them all! And if you get lucky, please report on them and let us know! Have fun, and stay safe!

NightwingYeah, I have thought about hopping on the metro, line 2 these last couple of days. IT seems that the sauna at the metro stop is a good place. I haven't tried a massage parlour/sauna yet, only the Pub, Tongren and the Barbershop. Out of the three, hmmmm. I think that the LT from Tongren was the best. No barbershops in Pudong to my knowledge. One has to cross the river for that sort of thing.

Fritobugger
11-12-07, 00:37
No barbershops in Pudong to my knowledge. One has to cross the river for that sort of thing.Tons of barbershops (BBS) in Pudong. Search the forum.

Paulb
11-12-07, 01:37
Lao Ma was right on the money with his description of the talent at this particular BBS. Easy to find, east of Shanxi Lu. There are quite a few BBS on this street.
Stopped by Thursday night. 8 girls, nothing was below a 7 and there was a few 9's IMHO. The Papasan was not exactly friendly to me though, probably due to my lack of Mandarin skills.
The girls were hot, most had great racks, and as Lao Ma stated leagues above the pub girls.

Thanks for sharing Lao Ma.

Cheers to all,
TonySounds good I will be in towm next week I will stay at the st ridgis hotel in pudong how much would a cab cost to Shanxi Lu will post a report .Keep up the good work. I love China.

WinteRain
11-12-07, 05:10
Been too many Pudong reports recently, so I decided to post a 'refreshment' report on the famous Shanghai Hotel. Newbies would have a more recent post to RTFF anyway.

Shanghai Hotel
505 Wulumuqi Road.

A easier way of telling the cab driver would be simply "Jing An Qian Gui" at Wulumuqi Road. That's the Cashbox karaoke, Jing An branch.

If you're across the road facing Cashbox, Shanghai Hotel would be to it's right.

The sauna is on the 2nd floor. All you need to do is walk into the hotel lobby, go inside the lift and you will see "Sauna" listed on the 2nd floor button.

Upon entry, you will be ushered by the manager into the locker room, and then directed to your designated locker to put your clothes and belongings. At this point, you're expected to strip completely naked except for your wristband with your locker number. You can choose to leave your precious belongings in the locker, or in the small plastic container given. I usually put my wallet, watch, mobile phone and cigarettes in the container and bring it along with me.

Next step, you'll be directed to the shower area, where you should have a quick shower, clean your privates. Another fella from the side not dressed in the attendants uniform will approach, asking you if you'd like a backscrub. It's actually an exfoliating scrub that removes all your dead skin. Heard it's very effective, and leaves your skin clean as a baby. But I gave it a pass that night. Once you're done with showering, you will be led to the drying area, where you will be given a towel and and clean set of ugly looking clothes to get into. Next is where the fun starts.

You will be led along a stretch of passages which look like the inside of the Hilton, and finally arriving at a reasonably small brightly lit room. Step into the room, and you will be greeted by 20+ ladies, smiling at you in all their glory. Take your pick, and she will lead you to your room.

I was very, very impressed with the quality of the girls. The sauna's reputation truly lives up to it's name. I picked number 05, as she was the one whom I felt attracted to first, and also probably coz she has the best body in the lot.

No. 05 is from Wu Xi, and looks like a supermodel. She even showed me some photos she took back home in a makeover studio, and they're even more stunning as she is in person. She's about 1.68, long wavy locks, beauty mole, very perfect pair of 36Ds that aren't sagging much... yet.

I won't go into too many details of the session, since it is mostly the same everywhere else. But there was alot of interaction between me and her, coz I was in a bashful mood and she had that type of character. So we had alot of word play and such during the session. Total time was only 60 minutes, I was allowed 1 shot. DATYed a little bit, but she felt very ticklish. No DFK. There was however BBBJ, FJ in many positions. Moaning was acted, eventually I stared at her with a straight face during the deed and we both bursted out laughing.

One thing to note is, don't 'waste' your condoms. Coz they only bring 2 in. Unlike other places where they bring in a bundle in their little bag of precious tools. So if you've used up your 2 condoms, you would have to waste time to wait for her to go out and get some. Also, if she starts to use the room phone before she brings her tools in, stop her and try to communicate with her to do it after she brings her tools in. Your 60 minutes start after the phone call, so if she makes the call and then runs off to get her tools, you're wasting the few minutes.

Wrapping it up.

No. 5
Name: Wang Qi
Face: 10
Body: 9
GFE: Maybe. I was in the 'I'm-a-naughty-guy-who-likes-to-tickle-you' mood.
BBBJ: 8
RTF: Who wouldn't?

Go Puxi ! haha

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Albert Punter
11-12-07, 06:18
Many BBS have been reported in Pudong.
I personally see many places that look like BBS very much (even though I didn't tried any).
So, just read back or make some search and I am sure you will find location.



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No barbershops in Pudong to my knowledge.
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Mikemann
11-12-07, 08:06
Thank Sasparx for giving out information about this place and Mark17 for a long and informative report. I went to Zhong Tian (Japanese name: Nakada) Sauna at Maxdo center on Xian Xia Road last monday night. Called them trying to make a reservation with 50# who looks really nice from their website but was told she's already "on duty" at that moment.

So I went there anyway decided to try out my luck with the lineup. Walked a long flight to B1 of Maxdo center. Was welcomed by a guy at the front desk. Asked about the price and he said 880 RMB. Fortunately, I had noticed a coupon sorta thing on their website which is in Japanese, I'm a Chinese so I can guess most of the content on that coupon, it states a discount from 880 to 780 before 7pm and 880 to 800 after 7pm. It turned out to be a right decision to print that coupon out as the guy said the printed coupon is legitimate and I can get the discount as it stated.

So I went in, the usual routine, changed into PJs and found myself infront of a lineup of 10 something in no time. The lineup is okay with a few 8s, but I didn't found anyone from the list on their website. The mama told me all those "Hong Pai" are picked by a group of japanese walked in right before me. With a sigh, I picked 51# who has a nice pair of C boobs and a nice smile.

The service was very good. Body scrub was more gentle and thorough than those ones I had in JiYuan. It take the girl 45 minutes to finish off all the routine on the air bed. Then we moved to the dry area for another good set of cat bathing, rimming, BBBJ and happy ending. All in all, it was a great experience and not in rush at all.

After the deed , I was led to a small room for rest. I took the chance have a detail look at this place. The place is new and well decrated in a classy way.

10 minutes later , I went to the locker room and changed back to my clothes.
At the front desk, I paid 800 with the printed coupon.

One more thing I'd like to mention about this place is it seems to be Japanese oriented since their website is all in Japanese and the staff greet you in Japanese. Well ,this won't be something prevent me from going back.

BTW, here's the link to the coupon: http://www.touch-net.net/nakada/im/quan.gif

Mock A Bee
11-12-07, 08:15
Regarding BBS's, it seems some readers of this forum have a difficult time finding them. They are pretty much everywhere (right now at least, there is rumored to be a new effort to get them cleaned up).

If you can't find a BBS in Shanghai, you are not looking hard enough or not looking in the right places, especially on the Puxi side where the city is much denser. They are all over the place.

MAB

Asdvlerner
11-12-07, 08:26
Finally, I work in Jiading (around 50 k north west of Shangai). I have a lot of experiences with BBS (some very down and dirty). If anyone has knowledge of a good sauna, (similar to maxdo) in Jiading, I would be keen to know.

For a Sauna In Jiading try the Ying Yuan Hotel at 150 Qinghe Road, Jiading Tel: 021-59520952

It's relatively near the center of Jiading. They have a KTV & Sauna called Paradise in a seperate building around behind the hotel - that is to say - if you enter the hotel from the main entrance - you need to go through the lobby out, the door to the back parking lot and enter the adjacent building on the left. Up the elevator to the 3rd or 4th floor (I don't remember which).

I havn't been for quite some time (over a year ago), but it was pretty good when I went last. Cost was RMB700 I think for "Quan Tao" (whole package). The facilities were new at the time I went and were pretty upscale and nice.

Good luck & let us know what you find.

Asdv

One Wing Low
11-12-07, 08:43
The Filipinas in bars on Tong Ren Luo are old, ugly and well-worn. I wouldn't even fuck them with someone else's dick.

The Shanghai hotel's sauna is pretty old, the girls are homely. They had 3 girls in the saunas, and there were 5 guys in the locker rooms who just took their clothes off with their dicks hanging... I said , fuck it, and skipped.

There was may be 2 girls at the bar South of the Shanghai hotel Mahattan (?) worth banging. One was a classic Chinese beauty. I really wanted to have her all night, but the night was young and I did not wanna leave Big Boy Billy early.

In the afternoon, I walked North of the Shanghai hotel into the dense neighborhoods looking for the BBS with vague directions from this forum, but did not find any. Probably should have gone at night looking for those pink neon lights, or should have engaged a cabbie. They sure as hell know where everything is.

I know the BBS would offer much prettier and fresher girls than those ugly filipinas on Tongren Luo.

I left Shanghai a virgin!!!! Damn.


Regarding BBS's, it seems some readers of this forum have a difficult time finding them. They are pretty much everywhere (right now at least, there is rumored to be a new effort to get them cleaned up).

If you can't find a BBS in Shanghai, you are not looking hard enough or not looking in the right places, especially on the Puxi side where the city is much denser. They are all over the place.

MAB

Fritobugger
11-12-07, 08:47
Sounds good I will be in towm next week I will stay at the st ridgis hotel in pudong how much would a cab cost to Shanxi Lu will post a report .Keep up the good work. I love China.If you are staying at the St. Regis why go to Shanxi Lu? Take a left out the St. Regis onto Dong Fang Lu and then a right a less than a black on the right onto Pudian Lu and there are 3 or 4 BBS or go couple of blocks left down Dong Fang Lu to Eshan Lu take a right and there are a half dozen BBS on Eshan Lu or you could go right on Dong Fang Lu to the sauna at the Marriott Courtyard which is less than one block from the St. Regis.

The second BBS past the scooter shop on Eshan Lu near Dong Fang Lu has been a favorite of mine for a long time. I forget her name but she could suck a golf ball through a water house. Great technique.

Yanville
11-12-07, 08:54
Hi,

Can anyone enlighten me the going rate for Filipinas in Manhattan Bar on Julu Lu and ay Judys Too. I was told it was 500-800 but last Saturday I was asked up to 1, 500 (crazy). Maybe some rich bas****s are ruining this scene.

WinteRain
11-12-07, 11:04
Regarding BBS's, it seems some readers of this forum have a difficult time finding them. They are pretty much everywhere (right now at least, there is rumored to be a new effort to get them cleaned up).

If you can't find a BBS in Shanghai, you are not looking hard enough or not looking in the right places, especially on the Puxi side where the city is much denser. They are all over the place.

MABI second that. During bored evenings, I would just take a walk randomly from wherever I am, and look for BBSes. It doesn't even take much effort. Just keep walking, make some turns, look in the distant for barber poles. Most BBSes have the trademark barber poles outside, but not all. Some are disguised as foot massage shops instead. That's what makes the 'hunt' fun, walking towards the shop to see if it's a BBS or not, and if it is, what the quality inside is.

BBSes are often located on small streets, and almost never on main roads. But at night, this can be a little tricky, coz some roads appear to be dark and quiet, however it may not be such in the day. Remember BBSes operate in the day as well, so they are mostly located on streets that even during the day would be rather quiet, away from heavy traffic.

Have fun walking! Now's a good period too, since it isn't too cold and you won't perspire after walking for kilometers.

Mianbao
11-12-07, 14:38
Vegetable,

Ask the boss (guy sitting by the door) if it's 130 or not, don't ask the girl. Knowing that the girls try to pull the laowai price of 200 I did this and he confirmed it's 130. You'll get no trouble from the girl then.

Mianbao.

Mc Fly XXX
11-12-07, 15:59
Arrived in Shanghai very late last night. Even too tired to check the Shanghai board. Browsed and found out about Sauna on World Plaza B2 the other moring. Convenient since I stay in Pudong side anyway

Taking the Metro works fine. Easy to find World Plaza and no need to get out in the cold at all.
However without knowing about the Sauna on B2 it would be difficult to find. Escalator from B1 to B2 blocked (guess not working); So take the elevator. Very low profile from the outside. On the inside - I can pretty much agree on anything said on environment before - not top notch.

Chose a bad time to go - peak business and got the last available room in a far away corner. Only 2 girls to choose from - all the others already busy. Did not pick the better looking one - though both just pretty
average - but the one that gave a little smile when looking at them.

Good choice. No PSE but a solid GFE. My chinese still sucks but at least some basic conversation is possible. Had to listen to the old "Laowai are all so big" story - but managed to make her comfortable. A little DATY will help most of the time. Don´t ask me for the name - already forgot it - only remember she was 20 and from Hubei Province.

Long story short - can recommend that place for a pleasureable experience in Pudong.
Good night everyone!

Jaenla
11-12-07, 20:07
Hi guys,

I'm travelling to the Supreme Tower Hotel in Shanghai soon.

Can anyone advise me BBS or Sauna's in the direct area?

Does the hotel have massage girls?

Last questions

What are the overnight prices picking up a girl to the hotel?

Is there a problem taking girls late in the evening to your hotel?

And do you have to pay the hotel for her too?

Percent99
11-12-07, 22:27
I was a bit shocked to see in Manhatan lately so many Filipinas that realy are mostly Boys posing as girls..
If you ask them they will tell you that they are 100% girls so this makes it more confusing.
I see 10-15 "girls" there every day but maybe only 2-3 are actualy girls and 2-3 are very very convinsing fakes.
I would be very carefull or I would stay away from Tr lu.
The scene is very bad right now.
You can choose :ugly girls or prety boys ,, not very good choises...


Hi,

Can anyone enlighten me the going rate for Filipinas in Manhattan Bar on Julu Lu and ay Judys Too. I was told it was 500-800 but last Saturday I was asked up to 1, 500 (crazy). Maybe some rich bas****s are ruining this scene.

Albert Punter
11-13-07, 01:54
Maybe we should launch a survey, or even ask Jackson to start a poll:

IN CASE YOU ARE FORCED TO CHOSE, WOULD YOU PREFER TO SPEND SOME TIME WITH AN UGLY GIRL OR A PRETTY BOY ?



...
You can choose :ugly girls or prety boys ,, not very good choises...

Percent99
11-13-07, 03:14
Maybe we should launch a survey,
Well... you can always put a bag over an ugly girls face....

FreebieFan
11-13-07, 04:06
See theres a report about being able to find BBS. I haven't been living in Shanghai for a 2 years or more. But when I was there the BEST thing I did was purchase a bike. Simple push bike like the millions of other Chinese have.

In one year I hit over 150 BBS. How do I know. Well Id go out cycling every night and would ALWAYS go to a new place. I figure if you take off vacations and business trips. Easily was 150.

All the old reports are filed under the name of roversman. And his epic cycling adventures hahah. After a year started visiting some regular places.

World Guy Sh
11-13-07, 08:20
Went back to 209 Wulumuqi Lu for the first time in a good couple of months. Basic content was just the same as before but an exceptional service this time - it has been my favourite for a while but this beats all previous experiences. Greeted with "Hen jiou, bu kan" by the manager. Now that is a good sign and may explain what followed.

A few new girls. New outfits - gone are those yellow bits of material and in are some cute black and white numbers. Number 65 seems to have gone, 66 was till there. 29 is long gone it seems.

Chose girl (and the number escapes me), medium height, push up bra, didn't look happy to be chosen. Damn . . . .

Into room (VIP room as usual these days), girl comes in. Rather than the usual strip, ino shower, it took 25-30 mins to get that far. Lots of DFK, BBBJ etc and eventually end up with no clothes on.

Looooonnngggg time in the wet area. Lots of attention both before and on the bed. Whilst I like thi, no one has ever made me cum before. Lots of rubbing etc. Clean up and to the bed.

60 minutes in. Full 'dry side' of cat bath (excellent, rather than slightly odd), BBBJ, AR and lots of FS with her more than happy to go on top until she complained her back hurt. 3 "O's" from her. Big one from me and then wanted to keep going . . . . . more DFK and cuddling before finally back to the shower.

First time a girl here has ever wanted my number. Exchanged a couple of texts already . . . . fantastic. So much for looking grumpy!

2 Hours
700RMB
Looks - 8/10
Attitude - 10/10
Effort 11/10 way beyond the call of duty

Normally expect 60 mins for 700RMB. Not sure if this part of a new service due to competition or a 'special'. May be worth trying but YMMV. Perhaps someone has just been reading my past couple of posts and my time finally, ahem, came.

WGS

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Mr Durex
11-13-07, 21:27
Maybe we should launch a survey, or even ask Jackson to start a poll:

IN CASE YOU ARE FORCED TO CHOSE, WOULD YOU PREFER TO SPEND SOME TIME WITH AN UGLY GIRL OR A PRETTY BOY ?Uhh I would go with the ugly girl and drink her pretty :-P

Skyskyblue
11-13-07, 22:00
See theres a report about being able to find BBS. I haven't been living in Shanghai for a 2 years or more. But when I was there the BEST thing I did was purchase a bike. Simple push bike like the millions of other Chinese have.

In one year I hit over 150 BBS. How do I know. Well Id go out cycling every night and would ALWAYS go to a new place. I figure if you take off vacations and business trips. Easily was 150.

All the old reports are filed under the name of roversman. And his epic cycling adventures hahah. After a year started visiting some regular places.I've been here for almost 3 months, I'm lucky I live near hongqiao/changning off wu zhong lu. I started taking long walks/jogs during 1am-6am and around this area I've probably passed 20-30 bbs's (around this time theres no one walking around and also the bus and metro aren't running plus the taxi faires are 14 rmb instead of 11). If I was planning to stay I would of bought a bike or an electric powered peddle bike to get around faster. I think if you guys have the time to explore areas, you'll find a lot of BBS's around the corner or just up the street. Also I was wondering because I'd go into half the places and mention sex and they would only say handjob, but this one night when I found a BBS way the fuck out there (guimei lu and gutei lu? ) at around 3 am across gated apartments I went up too mamasan and showed her a condom and she told me 150, I wasn't going to argue down to like 120 or whatever because I had been rejected for FS the previous 3 BBS's down the street. Anyways around 3-4 am the girls start changing into PJs or they completely close the place down so again if you guys have time to go exploring it will make yourself more familiar with where the BBS's are.

Fritobugger
11-14-07, 00:05
Hi guys,

I'm travelling to the Supreme Tower Hotel in Shanghai soon.

Can anyone advise me BBS or Sauna's in the direct area?

Does the hotel have massage girls?

Last questions

What are the overnight prices picking up a girl to the hotel?

Is there a problem taking girls late in the evening to your hotel?

And do you have to pay the hotel for her too?The Supreme Tower is next to the Marriott Courtyard which as a nice sauna. I is one block from the sauna at the Merrylin Hotel. It is a few blocks from the saunas behind Wagas and the one in the basement of World Plaza.

Supreme Tower is located at the intersection where several members of this board have mentioned BBS or saunas. It is also just a few blocks from the BBS on Pudian Lu and the many on Eshan Lu.

Please search the forum for more details.

WinteRain
11-14-07, 04:39
I wonder with that much BBS, if HIV and AIDS becomes a major issue. Are there physical signs to ensure security?Well I for one am not a fan of BBSes, I've only meddled with it a couple of times just out of curiosity's sake. I've actually learnt from 1 of the girls that many customers request for raw FS.

Anyway, there aren't any signs of HIV until the later stages, so I doubt theres a way to 'see'. Just play it safe, always put on a rubber and if you have an ulcer, don't DATY and stuff like that. Or, don't play.

Herr Pollon
11-14-07, 08:37
I was a bit shocked to see in Manhatan lately so many Filipinas that realy are mostly Boys posing as girls..
If you ask them they will tell you that they are 100% girls so this makes it more confusing.
I see 10-15 "girls" there every day but maybe only 2-3 are actualy girls and 2-3 are very very convinsing fakes.
I would be very carefull or I would stay away from Tr lu.
The scene is very bad right now.
You can choose :ugly girls or prety boys ,, not very good choises...

The worst part of Ladyboys is their attitude outside Tr Lu. If with my girlfriend, they still try to "seduce me" , they get very aggresive, and if you turn the other way they may insult you, or say something inconvenient.

They make everybody (me and my friends at least) very uncomfortable. I can´t understand how they let them in places like Park 97 with that attitude.

Chinaschaender
11-14-07, 12:11
First of all, thanks for all these essential informations which have helped a lot during my first year in shanghai. Especially the village I would never have found without this forum. Does anybody know any other quick fix bbbjcim option than the pub and bj factory (Xuanhua Lu) in and around Huaihai Zhong Lu and Yanan Zhong Lu area? Thanks. CS

Esvees
11-14-07, 13:42
Hi all,

New to the board, thought I'd add in some experience etc.

Been in Shanghai for 3 years and am fluent in Chinese, but was in a committed (as in, I should have been committed) relationship before, so really only just started to explore the good spots.

So, where did I look? Why, you only need to think about who the biggest horndogs in Asia are; just check out any local jap newspaper and there are tons of listings...

Best place I have found thus far is on corner neer Jiaozhou lu and kangding lu (a bit further away from Jing An)

Hard to tell what it is from outside. Every time I've been I've had a choice of at least 1 or 2 girls that were really pretty; last 2 were excellent; pretty face, nice body, great service and really sweet. One of them even met me outside (but they only get a few days a month off for their period, bummer)

Standard service gets you the shower / massage bit, followed by whatever takes your fancy on the bed. Rooms are a bit pokey, but there are nice mirrors all over, and most of the girls even seem to carry stuff to dress up in.

It seems quite popular as it's really slow during peak times + time gets cut short as well; best to go in late afternoon. Fare is 760 RMB, which seems pretty reasonable for what you get, compared to most other places.

Actually looking for some pals to go exploring other places with too and would be happy to hear of good suggestions. PM me if looking for good spots too.

Dman So
11-14-07, 14:47
First of all, thank you all you grand masters of shanghai. Excellent field work... really helped us newbies in shanghai.

Hope this ain't a dumbass question... I noticed a lot of barber looking shops with chicks in them. I assuming these are the BBS most of you are talking about.

Here's the dumbass question. I went to pretty much 6 different ones? out of the six I had 2 places which offers a fj. And the balance 4 places only hj (no matter how much I begged! pretty lame I know... but that 1 girl was friggin cute, hot, and young). anyway, in the end only hj was offered.

fj = RMB120-150 (never bothered to bargain, since the price seems right... I pretty much said, "zuo ai?" they said, "yi bai wu shi"... done... fucking begins.

hj = RMB80-100

FINALLY here's the question... how do you know if the place offers fj or only hj? (I mean how does one know by just looking from the outside? or the only way is to pop your head in and ask without shame?)

There are some dressed casual clothes and some dressed in bridesmaid dresses... whats the diff?

Thanks again people... good stuff in here.

Schulli
11-14-07, 17:33
You see on one hand I am a bit afraid, but on the other hand, I spent too many years of my life without any luck with having a woman who would truly love me. So I have no choice but to resort to this kind of action if I am to experience raw FS. I just want to be able to fulfill myself by having a girl who would let me blow my load inside her, while I can kiss her.

I just don't have the luxury to go through the normal channels of dating, etc for marriage. This is why I am going to travel around looking for someone who could ultimately make me a child.Is it a luxury to to go "through" the channels of dating" or is it time for you to see the shrink? You writing about raw FS while mongering and looking around for someone who could make you a child? Describing yourself as a victim of circumstances; a lover of raw FS pay sex? Sorry.

Josse
11-14-07, 21:42
Hello,

I will be in Shanghai next week and will stay at Holiday in Vista at 700 Chang Shou Road. Anyone know if there is any action like Sauna or massage close by?

Thanks,

Josse

Silk Fan
11-14-07, 22:12
though i confess to living on the charming but outlying side from most of the action, i have been the beneficary of having a lot of time to stroll the various streets of sh for awhile now. as a fan of amps in the colonies and a previously only-casual (and occupied) visitor to china, my stunned pleasure in discovering the state of things is only now begining to cool through infatuation to mere gratitude, and get my mind back on business. most of time anyway. what follows is some hopefully amusing.

was hiking east on wuzhong a block or so from 1200 block (lotus postion) about 1400 hours and came across a some quaint experiences. wgs on bicycles peddling their wears (damn this much-welcome cooling weather and the chinese loath of cold, the views were anything but spectacular compared to late summer, but.). was invited for a come-over. sauntered along behind the girl toward, i take it, her place south of wz, all the while taking in the sights and declining her invites to balance on the luggage rack and then to even take over the drivers seat of the bike. more than the usual number of stares and aired "laowai etc etc? ! ? " comments from the throng on the way lead me to believe i be wherebe dragons be, or marginally off compass (me being short dark haired and small nosed, or actually 180deg from that.) when she finally indicated the correct crooked alley to enter for trick or treating, i confess i reconsidered her very chapped lips and pudgy frame and kept walking. it took her a few many more meters to give up trying to change my mind. i looped the block back to wz. encountered about 5 more pushing peddlers that were more than happy to slow stop and smile like a good xjie just won't. sharing a nice cig bummed from one, zenning on the oddly hostile stares and street crossing (both beeline toward and anywhere away from us) from the local non-com-[CodeWord115] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord115) from grannies to grade schooler too. in addition to my tingling spider sense, though, every opportunity was just weird. blotches, non-typical hair loss, every cute was damaged goods in some way. so while i heartily don't recommend it all, for the "budget minded adventure traveller" it was clear that the fare was 50 60 for the full meal deal.

anyone who read this far, a question. although its meaning was obvious, whats the 411 on the hand sign that looks like both hands loosely fisted, touching together, and giving a "flicking a butane lighter" motion with thumbs? how could that possibly mean the deed? would love an interpretation.

and maybe a little off topic, but right up along with the pleasure principle, my further walk was entertained with an invite to obtain the spice that shall remain nameless, or more exactly its gummy extract. this may not be news to others but was a first for me locally. the vendor (one of those lamb eating guys who are often less adept at putonghua than even i. if that explains who without explicits) seemed highly unconcerned with any risks of being there. any input on that scene? admittedly knowing that anything i like to do, i like to do even better influenced, i still declined, mostly due to surprise but also concern over the possibility of a corrections trap detour, and to better determine the correct pricing structure (i. e. you successfully undershot the true value if you are allowed to walk away without consumated transaction). 100 for the basic unit seemed bottom line.

back to topic. for those lacking bbs detectors, some humble advice. firstly, you could simply have the zuchu driver just cover a small grid on the map (that is until one of the cockamammie intersections throws you off). its almost hard to miss the signs once off the showy streets.

next anywhere one sees transpo repair shops (bike, car) look nearby for a charm school / scissor free salon. and not usually the best of them. i entertain myself on walks guessing if / not the next spinning pole will be legit, and 50% is a good bet.

one so far un visited but intriguing shop you might miss with a drive by, found immediately west of one canal under wz and on the s side of street (possible w of wuchuan / 800ish block? ), is a very playful looking squad. shop largely hidden from view by the bridge may explain the ambition apparent. i pinky swear to sample it soon with short report to follow.

as far as the prom dress type bbs, i would interpret that as a trademark given the variations and continuity, and seems to be a feature of this heavily asian-frequented sector? ahh tradition. i prefer the miniskirt freeform uniform, and hope winter will not wither that view too.

for those with the bliss or maybe ignorance to alley cat, one interesting street is hongzhong between wz and yanan. very local flavor, but well traveled by many types due to antique stores and transport convenience. betting the price is good if you barge through the laowai tax.

last i have to vouch for the good things said recent about the relatively unmarked kangding shop. in contrast to the excessively dark hall upstairs (think spook house before the boo) the talent was visually outstanding. humor was not a great play; i walked in, sat down and indicated i was there for a good ol hair cut, just a trim off the side, please. the mama'tre dee didn't get the joke, instead paining to inform the dumb white guy of the menu. i think 2 girls expressed a pass on me (and i am not all that hideous) and then every one just acted like i was not there (that got odd, i tell you) until i pressed the point & asked of they were too busy at the mo to help an old alter boy. service forthcoming, and ok mainly due to the above average scenery. i avoid fs without a shower to follow, but was tempted.

if i don't get flamed too bad for content or duration of this post, i'll be sure to write again with some high density and convenient finds that i would have to go back to properly locate. happy monging, luck to all.

Icup 123
11-15-07, 02:06
Is it a luxury to to go "through" the channels of dating" or is it time for you to see the shrink? You writing about raw FS while mongering and looking around for someone who could make you a child? Describing yourself as a victim of circumstances; a lover of raw FS pay sex? Sorry.I hope he is just trolling around. I've seen on the classified that he wants to bring them to his youth hostel? Huh?

Dman So
11-15-07, 04:39
Went back to 209 Wulumuqi Lu for the first time in a good couple of months.

60 minutes in. Full 'dry side' of cat bath (excellent, rather than slightly odd), BBBJ, AR and lots of FS with her more than happy to go on top until she complained her back hurt. 3 "O's" from her. Big one from me and then wanted to keep going . . . . . more DFK and cuddling before finally back to the shower.

2 Hours
700RMB
Looks - 8/10
Attitude - 10/10
Effort 11/10 way beyond the call of duty

Normally expect 60 mins for 700RMB. Not sure if this part of a new service due to competition or a 'special'. May be worth trying but YMMV. Perhaps someone has just been reading my past couple of posts and my time finally, ahem, came.

WgsWondering how many times you cummed in your session? Seeing how it might be special treatment. And 2 hours. Can we rest and do it again? And again? And for some very potent masters in here. Yet again?

Albert Punter
11-15-07, 06:10
... as you are maybe a 5 to 10 minutes taxi ride (depending traffic congestion) from the famous Shanghai Hotel sauna.


Hello,

I will be in Shanghai next week and will stay at Holiday in Vista at 700 Chang Shou Road. Anyone know if there is any action like Sauna or massage close by?

Thanks,

Josse

Albert Punter
11-15-07, 06:14
Basing on my experience, you only know what are services available when you get in and ask.

As far as dressing is concerned, that is in no way related to services provided (again in my humble experience).



...
FINALLY here's the question... how do you know if the place offers fj or only hj? (I mean how does one know by just looking from the outside? or the only way is to pop your head in and ask without shame?)
...

Chinaschaender
11-15-07, 06:58
From my experiences I would say that the shops where the girls wear all the same pretty uniforms (dresses) only provide HJ. Actually, I never found such a place offering FS.

Btw, was at BJ factory Xuanhua Lu yesterday and met same problem with high quote (RMB 200). Papa-san was not around, so I agreed after a minute of hopeless discussion. But at least 3-4 girls were 7-8 on my scale. And I cannot complain about the service which was absolutely ok. But it was cbj - is that standard procedure there?

Earlier someone recommended a massage parlour close to Wanhangdu Lu where oil massage with happy ending is provided for RMB 118. Went there earlier this week. Took 90 minutes option as recommended. Girl was max. a 4 but options were limited. Service was ok but surely not outstanding. After 30 minutes she already started HJ. So, in the end I left after 60 minutes already. Good: it is located in a small alley. So, they are not too many people checking what the Laowai is doing.

Nightwing88
11-15-07, 10:12
Nightwing back with another interesting find in what is now my favorite stomping ground... Pudong! One night while in a taxi going home from the office, in the back seat I found coupons advertising a bath house for a 10 RMB entrance fee. The bathhouse is called the Shi Ji Xin He Bath House, located on Bai Yang Road, near Long Hui Road. I had some spare time yesterday and decided to give it a try, just to see what was available at a "yu chang" or 浴场.

The place was like your standard sauna bath-house, with attendants helping you to disrobe, showers, baths, saunas, etc. The condition of the place was a little older and not as nice as some of the places in Puxi. While in the baths, an attendant tried to upsell me on a Chinese style 90 minute massage at 158RMB. What the heck, sounded nice, so I agreed and went upstairs to the 2nd floor. Before I went into the massage room, I also asked them if they had any "tui you" or oil massages. They replied affirmatively, at which point they directed me up to a private room on the 3rd floor.

The rooms on the 3rd floor started looking much more nicer. I happily noted that some of the rooms had bars on the ceiling, and I began imagining a nice red-rope service at this place. An attendant came in and then offerred me three different services, at 298 (oil massage), 398 (full body oil massage) and 598 (special massage). Of course, I took the 598 option. I waited for a little longer, and a cute girl scantily clad in an orange nightie showed up at the door. She confirmed that I wanted the 598 option, I agreed, and then she asked me to leave the room to go to the 4th floor!

Now I was truly amused. In this place, you have to climb the stairs higher and higher to pay more and get more service! We went up to the 4th floor, where there were lots of funky pink and orange lights in the hallway. I knew now that FS service was available, and got more excited. The girl brought me into a large room with mirrors on the ceiling and sides. And, lo and behold, there was a private bathroom adjoining the bedroom. The girl tried to upsell me on another service, the 598 (straight sex) or 798 (straight sex plus bath) options. I teasingly asked her if there were any more floors in this sauna and she smiled, replying no. I took the 598 option, and we had a very pleasant 60 minutes of heaven.

The girl's service was nice, coupled with the fact that we chatted quite a bit before and after the deed, she gave me a bath anyway, and also had a nice massage from her, all for 598. However, she stressed that not all girls did this, only because she liked me. The final price for the whole thing was 598RMB; at the front desk, the 10RMB coupon was upgraded to free!

Now, I recommend this place to all you brothers out there for the following reasons:

1. It is another 24 hour sauna place in Pudong. So, once again, if you have the itch at 4:00AM, you can "come" here.
2. It's conveniently located diagonally across from the Long Yang Road station. The sauna is southwest, within walking distance of the subway station. This means that if you happen to have a 3 to 4 hour layover in the Pudong airport, you now have the option to take the 8-minute Maglev to Long Yang Road, get the deed done, and go back to your final destination much more relaxed.
3. For the person in previous posts looking for something closeby to the Science and Technology Museum, this is pretty close by to where you are as well.

Here's the details in Chinese:

Name: Shi Ji Xin He Bath House 世纪鑫河大浴场
Address: No 608, Baiyang Road, Xinduhui No 2 Building 浦东白杨路608号新都汇2号楼
Get out at the Number 5 exit of the Longyang road metro line 2, walk about 500 meters.
Phone number: 50422886

Have fun,
Nightwing

Member #1604
11-15-07, 12:42
NW,
You did the greatest report I ever read.
Just keep it.


Nightwing back with another interesting find in what is now my favorite stomping ground... Pudong! One night while in a taxi going home from the office, in the back seat I found coupons advertising a bath house for a 10 RMB entrance fee. The bathhouse is called the Shi Ji Xin He Bath House, located on Bai Yang Road, near Long Hui Road. I had some spare time yesterday and decided to give it a try, just to see what was available at a "yu chang" or 浴场.

The place was like your standard sauna bath-house, with attendants helping you to disrobe, showers, baths, saunas, etc. The condition of the place was a little older and not as nice as some of the places in Puxi. While in the baths, an attendant tried to upsell me on a Chinese style 90 minute massage at 158RMB. What the heck, sounded nice, so I agreed and went upstairs to the 2nd floor. Before I went into the massage room, I also asked them if they had any "tui you" or oil massages. They replied affirmatively, at which point they directed me up to a private room on the 3rd floor.

The rooms on the 3rd floor started looking much more nicer. I happily noted that some of the rooms had bars on the ceiling, and I began imagining a nice red-rope service at this place. An attendant came in and then offerred me three different services, at 298 (oil massage), 398 (full body oil massage) and 598 (special massage). Of course, I took the 598 option. I waited for a little longer, and a cute girl scantily clad in an orange nightie showed up at the door. She confirmed that I wanted the 598 option, I agreed, and then she asked me to leave the room to go to the 4th floor!

Now I was truly amused. In this place, you have to climb the stairs higher and higher to pay more and get more service! We went up to the 4th floor, where there were lots of funky pink and orange lights in the hallway. I knew now that FS service was available, and got more excited. The girl brought me into a large room with mirrors on the ceiling and sides. And, lo and behold, there was a private bathroom adjoining the bedroom. The girl tried to upsell me on another service, the 598 (straight sex) or 798 (straight sex plus bath) options. I teasingly asked her if there were any more floors in this sauna and she smiled, replying no. I took the 598 option, and we had a very pleasant 60 minutes of heaven.

The girl's service was nice, coupled with the fact that we chatted quite a bit before and after the deed, she gave me a bath anyway, and also had a nice massage from her, all for 598. However, she stressed that not all girls did this, only because she liked me. The final price for the whole thing was 598RMB; at the front desk, the 10RMB coupon was upgraded to free!

Now, I recommend this place to all you brothers out there for the following reasons:

1. It is another 24 hour sauna place in Pudong. So, once again, if you have the itch at 4:00AM, you can "come" here.
2. It's conveniently located diagonally across from the Long Yang Road station. The sauna is southwest, within walking distance of the subway station. This means that if you happen to have a 3 to 4 hour layover in the Pudong airport, you now have the option to take the 8-minute Maglev to Long Yang Road, get the deed done, and go back to your final destination much more relaxed.
3. For the person in previous posts looking for something closeby to the Science and Technology Museum, this is pretty close by to where you are as well.

Here's the details in Chinese:

Name: Shi Ji Xin He Bath House 世纪鑫河大浴场
Address: No 608, Baiyang Road, Xinduhui No 2 Building 浦东白杨路608号新都汇2号楼
Get out at the Number 5 exit of the Longyang road metro line 2, walk about 500 meters.
Phone number: 50422886

Have fun,
Nightwing

Yanville
11-16-07, 03:06
Can anyone recommend FL from Manhattan bar for good service with a smile? I don't want to take pot luck as price is quite steep for any girl not drawing her pension. All the girls there seem to heve their own bar names there and some of them talk the talk but will they do the walk? Any suggestions out there? I gues it will have to be a Flippa.

Albert Punter
11-16-07, 06:30
Stephen, you should cross the river.
Nightwing is describing an experience he had in Pudong whereas Nanjing Lu is in Puxi.


Okay, I am familiar with Nanjing Lu until it gets cut off where there is a huge TISOT swiss watch ad a statue of a lady and her child. From there, how would I get there? Two, was it raw FS?

Albert Punter
11-16-07, 06:32
I had contacted this girl through a website about 2 years ago, sorry but now I don’t remember which one.
We had chatted for a few weeks, we exchanged pics, etc.. Usual stuff until I decided to meet her and started to try to make arrangements, but we couldn’t find a suitable night. My schedule and her schedule were not free in same dates.
Then, a sunday I took a walk along Huai Hai Lu and while waiting to cross the road at a red light, I noticed a very nice looking girl at my back. I looked at her and, wow, she looked at me too ! Green came and I started to cross, thinking that I should start to talk to her. Yes, she was still walking at my back in my same direction. So, I turned back … She was disappeared, maybe entered some place. I thought I had lost a good chance.
Monday, while on-line she came up and asked me “Were you in Huai Hai Lu yesterday afternoon at about this time ?” I replied “Yes”. She said “I believe I saw you”.
Just to make story short, she was the girl I met at street crossing and she recognize me and I didn’t recognize her. Gosh, I thought I needed to go to the ophthalmologist.

A few days later she insisted to meet me even if she knew I had to meet another girl (I was very open with her). Therefore, we basically met for an hour for an ice-cream at Ven-Ice in XTD. She looked very nice, I should say hot, and in some way we connected … but I had to meet a sex goddess that night so, I drove her home and bye bye.

From that day we chatted very often and we really felt comfortable discussing openly about all possible topics, we became like friends.
After some time she found a BF and she was supposed to go to Europe to meet his parents.
Then, guess what, he didn’t bring her home and relationship freezed a little bit and eventually she broke it.
In all this period, about one year, we continued to chat almost every day and I was really attracted by her.
After some time she was single, she wanted to meet me (I wanted too as I perceived something good would happen).
We went for dinner to a nice place, then we went to a bar for a dessert and then …
I had purchased a gift for her birthday which was after few days but intentionally I left it home.
So, I invited her to my place and imagine what happened.
Following morning she said to me “I wanted to get a man lying on me, kiss me and have sex with me”. Quite clear, isn’t it ?
Even after one year period between first and second meeting, I can count that girl as driver to bed at second date !

Moral is: never give up, moment comes when you are able to drive her to bed.

Albert Punter
11-16-07, 06:33
I want to share another experience.

Again I met this girl on-line, with usual story of chat and open game (I mean I told her openly what I look from girls). We dated and I have to admit she is the most sexually attractive girl I ever met, but … it didn’t go as I wanted. So we met again 3 times, but nothing happened.
I wanted her at all costs. So, I continued to chat with her and called her, which is something I usually don’t do, in case I am not able to drive to bed a girl after three dates.
She always repeated I was special to her but she couldn’t have sex with me as she is a traditional girl.

Then one day she said she wanted to celebrate her birthday in my place together with her divorced friend, who left husband only a few weeks before. Obviously I was very happy to do that.
Birthday came and she and her friend came to my place. They brought some food which they prepared. Night was very nice and atmosphere was very relaxed. Divorced girl was evidently in need of affectionate attentions and I let her understand I was available to “help” her.
So, we dated and I had a couple of wonderful nights with her.
Apparently, she disclosed what happened to other girl who became jealous (for what ? she wasn’t my GF) and at this time dared to come to my place and to let ball rolling.
Therefore, my dream of having sex with that girl materialized after more than one year we knew.

Moral again: never give up, you may ending up drilling 2 instead of 1 !

Blacklisted
11-16-07, 06:37
Okay, I am familiar with Nanjing Lu until it gets cut off where there is a huge TISOT swiss watch ad a statue of a lady and her child. From there, how would I get there? Two, was it raw FS?Please take the advice of others and get yourself seen to. You seem to have serious issues and I would not encourage ANY unsuspecting girl to go anywhere near you.

Your posts are frightening.

Dog Day
11-16-07, 08:00
been a while since i posted.

i had 3 freebies since june this year when i broke up with my gf.
all i met through the internet.

freebie number one is 25, shanghainese works for a local travel agency. 7/10.
first date. brought her to a bar anniversary. it was a free event with free drinks. nice party, and we had fun. second date, was already my bedroom. she was ok in bed, but not as horny as my ex. she spends all the following week-ends in my place. split after 4 or 5 weeks because she sms me 3-4and expe times a day and expects me to call her every night. gave her a bullshit reason to be able to break the affair.

freebie number two was from anhui. 23 who works for a multinational ad agency. 9/10. actually met her while i was still meeting number one and i felt i like this one better. first date was ladies night at zapatas. great first date was able to french kiss her while waiting for her cab to get home. second was a movie date and we were dfk almost half of the movie. i am not sure what our relationship was yet, but was a bit peeved when she asked me to buy her a bag on our third date. its not expensive, 150 but i was thinking "why is she asking me to buy her a bag?" after shopping we had dinner. then she said, i want to stay in your place. payback. she was a 10 in bed, even at age 23. she had a fully developed labia (her pussy lips are swollen like the ones you see in really slutty porn) and a huge clit which makes her very sensitive. her pussy was made for daty. any way the shopping continued the following week. next was shoes , then jeans. they were not expensive though, so i probably spent around 700 in all including the first bag. she stays in my aparttment 3-4 times a week and it was always a sex marathon when-ever she is with me. i would like to keep her as a retainer but after 2 months she said her mother wants her to marry a boy who is now in shanghai. the guy is 25 and knows her family (met him for lunch one time. he did not know my relationship with his bride to be), so we broke up. felt actually that i lost a real good sex mate. she was made for sex.

third was shanghainese 24, works as secretary for a multinational company 7/10. first date was a dinner at malones. second date was a dvd movie in my place. the surprise here is she was still a virgin!!! i asked her if she was sure she really want to do this. she said she was sure as she feel she is being left behind in experience when she talks to friends. i did not succeed the first night since she keeps on moving that wet hole whenever i was almost there. i really cant enter since it was closed and she was always complaining about the pain. i can't even put my fingers in as it was too tight and she screams in pain when even my finger-tip is getting inside. i used up all the ky i had at home and felt really disappointed with myself why i cant enter her. got a new tube of ky for our second try a few days after. my first 3 attempts were futile. in my last try that evening, when she was getting pretty excited i shoved my middle finger inside her pussy. i felt a crack in her pussy, she shouted in pain she slapped me. i calmed her down and told her she is now "opened up". we slept. next morning, got her aroused but it was still an ordeal getting my dick inside. when i finally did it, she still screamed in pain. i just put it all inside her with-out moving. i told her to get accustomed to it. she told me if the feeling is really like that...she feels a bit pain but very good when i move in and out. she feels so good but she feels she wants to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134). anyway that morning she came and came and came. i had to change the sheets due to blood drippings mixed with her cum that morning.

well its now a week after that and i am now teaching her the proper way to bbbj. not to suck too much, do not use the teeth and just play with the tongue. still teaching her how to move while she is on top and showing her the deep pleasures of doggie style. will be trying more moves as she gets used to it.

i just love shanghai.

Intransit
11-16-07, 08:01
SO,

I gotta agree with Blacklisted. Why would you post a description of yourself, including a birthdate, and post based on what one would think is a real name? Either you're trying to throw someone off the scent, or trying to put someone on it, regardless it's a tad strange.

If you're looking for good ways to find a wife, combing various houses of prostitution is probably not it.

Icup 123
11-16-07, 08:09
Again I don't wanna flame or something but yeh I got the same vibe as you guys from Olsen and after reading his posts in all the other sections of the forum it really is strange. I'm guessing either hes a troll or really believes what he says and that is very creepy.

Speer
11-16-07, 15:22
Hi all,

Well now back at home from a 26 day visit to a few cities in China one of which is Shanghai. Now just to make the following story a bit clearer first some personal info.

Me: 24 years old, 193cm tall, wide shoulders muscular body with some unnecessary padding, not the prettiest guy but def not the ugliest.

In my country I have not had a girlfriend for (anything longer than a week or two anyway) about 6 years. In china I was expecting to have to pay for everything including girls. Now either I am extremely lucky or girls in china are actually atracted to me (or my money which is more probable). I paid only once for a HJ in Changzhou. Everywhere else I had freebees. Even the third date rule didn't apply. First or second date every time. In Ningbo (I know different thread) I actually had two bar girls (friends of eachother and work at the same bar) who I took out to dinner once and they were mine. In Shanghai I went to a bar and a girl asked me to take her home or at least off work as she didn't like her job. Her boss wanted me to pay 200 for taking her off work early. As I didn't know what I was getting I said no. The girl said she would pay herself if she had it but she only had 120 and actually paid that herself so I paid the other 80. Took her out to another club and then back to the hotel. FS first night. She stayed with me for a week and a half even travelled back to Ningbo with me and acted like a translator I employed to the bar girls!!! This girl even saved me money by helping me with getting my phone to work, getting discounts at the hotel and even took me to great restaurants where we both could eat cheaper than where I would eat alone. She had only been in Shanghai for a week herself and was looking for a good job so I tried to help her with that. Got her number and her email and I cannot wait to go back and have another go. Beautifull 26 year old girl. I did give her a little something when I left as she had 0 money and only two sets of clothing with her. She didn't ask for anything and probably was just happy to stay in four star hotels for a week and a half and having 3 meals a day. But I couldn't help myself and told her to find a good job and email me when she does. Hope I meet her again.

Already planned in overtime to pay for my next trip there and got my fingers crossed that my boss neads me there again soon.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Ricardolille
11-16-07, 15:52
Dog day,

Which internet site you use for freebies?

Gonad Man
11-17-07, 02:17
I've been interested in this talk about Wuzhong road BBS shops, so I decided to give it a walk. Starting at Lotus, I headed West and sure enough, after 10 minutes walking, found a few motor shops interspersed with ladies. These mechanics must be the horniest dudes in all China. Or maybe it has something to do with the waiting time. Another reason might be that customers figure "hey, I'm getting screwed already by this mechanic, why not make it a double?"

I digress.

Earlier this year, there were a few posts about an area known as hang hua xin chun. The report was mapped, but it sounded to me like an interesting area, so I continued in the direction that the previous map indicated. To do this, you have to go under the elevated highway and keep walking along Wuzhong for 10 mins or so. You pass a small street on your right, then the second street has an archway. Turn up here. During the daytime, horny mechanics are busy at work. During the night, it's all closed down except for a few beacons of light. Yep, the good pink kind.

Walk up this street (Hangzhong Lu) and it won't be long before you see all the shops. It's not exactly where the other map suggested, but it's there. I checked them all out, then walked up to one tout who said hello. I asked how much. He said 400. I said no way. He wrote it on paper, then said 2 girls are 1000. Now, I've only got a degree in physics, so what do I know right, but those numbers didn't seem to add up. I tried walking away but he seemed happy for me to go.

I didn't partake in the pleasures that night, but maybe some senior members could enlighten me on the pricing. But here's the thing: inside each of those 6 or 7 shops were a bunch of young, sexy, nubile young things. It was really hard to walk away. I do plan on returning. Very soon. So please, help.

Incidentally, I find Google Earth great for finding locations. For those members unfamiliar, it's a satellite mapping program available for free on the net. I've attached a file which pinpoints all the locations I referred to in this post, for easy reference (rename the file to .kmz and open with GE)

Regards,
Gonad

Sasparx
11-17-07, 02:27
Dear All

I have to say that I find Stephen Olsen's posts very very funny. They remind me so much of Borat! If they are read in this light they provide some levity to this forum which I personally find extremely amusing!

The concept of Raw FS, impregnation, erectile dysfunction, Canadian patriotism, Chinese Head taxation all wrapped up in wanting to find a trophy Chinese wife to return to native Canada is howlingly amusing!

Stephen. Please keep posting about your search for a Chinese wife. Please keep telling us about your never ending quest for Raw FS. Please tell us more about yourself, your background & how you came to be in China.

Best

Sasparx

Bonappettit
11-17-07, 05:45
Gonad Man, I use to be a frequent visitor of the village located at Hangzhong Lu and Wu Zhong Lu. The bbs I went to are the ones you see when you pass the arcway after entering Hangzhong Lu from Wuzhong Lu.

There are two reason why I stopped going there. The last time I went I would see random bbs close and turning their lights off do to fear of police raids. But, most importantly some of the bbs/girls are not the cleanest. One of the rightside bbs (comming from Wuzhong Lu) do not even have a upstairs stalls to screw the girl. Instead some of bbs take you to a dirty cement shack where you can screw the girl. These places are a breeding ground for things like UTI which I got later. Even though it only cost 150 rmb, the medical bill cost like 3000 rmb to have full body check up and medication.

I would suggest you try some of the saunas suggested here. They run up usually starting at 500 rmb and more and the facilities are more clean and secure. And these girls are generally more cleaner since most only work there for 3 months. Plus, you will get a bunch more pleasure since they are properly train to give you excellent foreplay before you screw. As the saying goes, 4-5 visits to the bbs does not equal 1 Sauna vist. Remember, its quality and not quantity which I had to learn the hard way.

Wonderer
11-17-07, 06:52
I wanted to try once the sauna and massage next to the Courtyard by Marriott Hotel in Shanghai Pudong. The name in Chinese (ba1 dong1) means something like east of banana... if I understand correctly. I was staying on the Pudong side, and the place was not too far away.

Nowadays you cannot enter anymore from the Courtyard hotel, since the access through the inside escalator is blocked. Therefore, I accessed from DongFang Lu, just around the corner of the Courtyard. There are escalators inside, and you go up to the 4th floor. There is nothing else located, so you can't miss the sauna.

After the locker room, shower, and changing into the pijama, I was led to a semi-private waiting room. The mama-san explained "650 for normal massage, 800 for water massage." Finally I decided for the more interesting water massage. Then, she brought me to the room, and shortly after, she brought the girl. The girl was ok, not much more. I would say 5 body, 6 face. There was no lineup.

After getting the famous small case with the "tools", she prepared the waterbed in the adjacent room. This is a kind of flat bed with water sprays and flashing lights inside. The girl gives you a quite nice body massage with soap.

Then, we turned over to the "dry bed" and she gave me the cat bath. She did also quite a lot of deep rimming with her tongue. After quite a while, we changed then to mish, doggy, cowgirl, mish again, until the deed was done very nicely. She was wet enough, even though not too wet. But no gliding cream was needed. I don't think she had an orgasm, but certainly also enjoyed.

Then, showered me again in the waterbed room, and after a bit more than an hour I left quite happily.

The place is quite clean and ok. I would give it a 6 to 7 altogether. I missed the lineup.The girl's attitude deserves a 8, while skills were about 7.

Not bad overall, and I might go there again when staying nearby.



Wonderer

Member #1604
11-17-07, 06:54
jackson, why not open a freebie section for sharing with each other more freebies experience and practices?
dog day dude, which internet website do you use for freebie?




been a while since i posted.

i had 3 freebies since june this year when i broke up with my gf.
all i met through the internet.

freebie number one is 25, shanghainese works for a local travel agency. 7/10.
first date. brought her to a bar anniversary. it was a free event with free drinks. nice party, and we had fun. second date, was already my bedroom. she was ok in bed, but not as horny as my ex. she spends all the following week-ends in my place. split after 4 or 5 weeks because she sms me 3-4and expe times a day and expects me to call her every night. gave her a bullshit reason to be able to break the affair.

freebie number two was from anhui. 23 who works for a multinational ad agency. 9/10. actually met her while i was still meeting number one and i felt i like this one better. first date was ladies night at zapatas. great first date was able to french kiss her while waiting for her cab to get home. second was a movie date and we were dfk almost half of the movie. i am not sure what our relationship was yet, but was a bit peeved when she asked me to buy her a bag on our third date. its not expensive, 150 but i was thinking "why is she asking me to buy her a bag?" after shopping we had dinner. then she said, i want to stay in your place. payback. she was a 10 in bed, even at age 23. she had a fully developed labia (her pussy lips are swollen like the ones you see in really slutty porn) and a huge clit which makes her very sensitive. her pussy was made for daty. any way the shopping continued the following week. next was shoes , then jeans. they were not expensive though, so i probably spent around 700 in all including the first bag. she stays in my aparttment 3-4 times a week and it was always a sex marathon when-ever she is with me. i would like to keep her as a retainer but after 2 months she said her mother wants her to marry a boy who is now in shanghai. the guy is 25 and knows her family (met him for lunch one time. he did not know my relationship with his bride to be), so we broke up. felt actually that i lost a real good sex mate. she was made for sex.

third was shanghainese 24, works as secretary for a multinational company 7/10. first date was a dinner at malones. second date was a dvd movie in my place. the surprise here is she was still a virgin!!! i asked her if she was sure she really want to do this. she said she was sure as she feel she is being left behind in experience when she talks to friends. i did not succeed the first night since she keeps on moving that wet hole whenever i was almost there. i really cant enter since it was closed and she was always complaining about the pain. i can't even put my fingers in as it was too tight and she screams in pain when even my finger-tip is getting inside. i used up all the ky i had at home and felt really disappointed with myself why i cant enter her. got a new tube of ky for our second try a few days after. my first 3 attempts were futile. in my last try that evening, when she was getting pretty excited i shoved my middle finger inside her pussy. i felt a crack in her pussy, she shouted in pain she slapped me. i calmed her down and told her she is now "opened up". we slept. next morning, got her aroused but it was still an ordeal getting my dick inside. when i finally did it, she still screamed in pain. i just put it all inside her with-out moving. i told her to get accustomed to it. she told me if the feeling is really like that...she feels a bit pain but very good when i move in and out. she feels so good but she feels she wants to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134). anyway that morning she came and came and came. i had to change the sheets due to blood drippings mixed with her cum that morning.

well its now a week after that and i am now teaching her the proper way to bbbj. not to suck too much, do not use the teeth and just play with the tongue. still teaching her how to move while she is on top and showing her the deep pleasures of doggie style. will be trying more moves as she gets used to it.

i just love shanghai.

German Shuaige
11-17-07, 08:26
No need to leave the hotel - just call the massage parlor for an in room service.


Hello,

I will be in Shanghai next week and will stay at Holiday in Vista at 700 Chang Shou Road. Anyone know if there is any action like Sauna or massage close by?

Thanks,

Josse

Bonzo1
11-17-07, 09:03
Dear All

I have to say that I find Stephen Olsen's posts very very funny. They remind me so much of Borat! If they are read in this light they provide some levity to this forum which I personally find extremely amusing!

The concept of Raw FS, impregnation, erectile dysfunction, Canadian patriotism, Chinese Head taxation all wrapped up in wanting to find a trophy Chinese wife to return to native Canada is howlingly amusing!

Stephen. Please keep posting about your search for a Chinese wife. Please keep telling us about your never ending quest for Raw FS. Please tell us more about yourself, your background & how you came to be in China.

Best

Sasparx

That's an interesting perspective, and yeah it is funny when you read his posts through that lens.

However, regardless of whether he's funny or not (I personally find him extremely creepy and suspect there's something not right in terms of his motivations) this forum's intent is "exchanging information about meeting women for sex"; he is contributing nothing to that end.

In any case he's already on my block list, but if a lot of people find the guy funny perhaps Jackson could allocate for him his own section (like Sugar Baba) so the rest of us can carry on without having to entertain a comedian (or sociopath, or whatever) unwillingly.

WinteRain
11-17-07, 09:55
Gonad Man, I use to be a frequent visitor of the village located at Hangzhong Lu and Wu Zhong Lu. The bbs I went to are the ones you see when you pass the arcway after entering Hangzhong Lu from Wuzhong Lu.

There are two reason why I stopped going there. The last time I went I would see random bbs close and turning their lights off do to fear of police raids. But, most importantly some of the bbs/girls are not the cleanest. One of the rightside bbs (comming from Wuzhong Lu) do not even have a upstairs stalls to screw the girl. Instead some of bbs take you to a dirty cement shack where you can screw the girl. These places are a breeding ground for things like UTI which I got later. Even though it only cost 150 rmb, the medical bill cost like 3000 rmb to have full body check up and medication.

I would suggest you try some of the saunas suggested here. They run up usually starting at 500 rmb and more and the facilities are more clean and secure. And these girls are generally more cleaner since most only work there for 3 months. Plus, you will get a bunch more pleasure since they are properly train to give you excellent foreplay before you screw. As the saying goes, 4-5 visits to the bbs does not equal 1 Sauna vist. Remember, its quality and not quantity which I had to learn the hard way.Good advice. :)

Ham Sap Lo
11-18-07, 03:52
First of all, I want to thank everyone on this forum for pointing this place out to me. It was absolutely awesome.

As everyone has mentioned, it's on 505 Wulumuqi Road, for those of you who can't speak Mandarin, it's pretty easy to tell the cab driver where to go. In Chinese, it's Shanghai Bin Guan (pronounced BEEN GUAN), the "been" is in a high pitched voice (like how you sing the 'a' and 'b' in the alphabet song) and the guan starts low tone and moves up, sort of how you're asking a question.

Anyways, you can't miss the hotel, it's pretty large. On the second floor you'll talk to the boss. I opted for the 650 RMB special because I got there at 3 pm (if you finish your before 7:00 pm, you qualify for the special). Next you go into the pool area and strip down. I'm going to skip the part about the sauna/skin exfoliation extra because none of you probably care, but just know that it's an extra 70 RMB. If you don't want to pay it, refuse all massages in the pool area.

Then they led me down the hallways to the girls. My god, this place is beautiful. You feel like you're in an exotic brothel. Anyways, I got to the room with the girls and picked the one who maintained the best eye contact. I picked girl #10, and her name is Zhou Fei. Nickname: "fei fei".

This girl was amazing. The best sex of my life. Nice tits with large nipples and a good body frame. She did the whole cat bath with the hot/cold water thing, a fantastic rimjob, and then blew me in 4 or 5 different positions (BBBJ). The best one was where she hung from the ceiling upside down, put her mouth on my cock, and twirled herself up. When she untwirled, you get this corkscrew blowjob that almost made me shoot my wad. I get chills just thinking about it. Then we fucked in about 4 or 5 different positions. Missionary, doggie, girl on top, you name it. She still had the red velvet that she had suspended herself from, so I fucked her standing position while she sat in the swing. All this time she was putting on a great acting job, moaning, calling my name.

When we finally ended doggy style, I got so horny I tore off her hair bun and let her hair down and went for it. It was just like the movies. This wasn't just a GFE, this was the closest thing to fucking a porn star. When I was about to blow my load, I turned her around, took her face, and unloaded a week's worth of cum all over it. We finished with a big sloppy cum kiss (hey, I'm a sick fuck, what can I say).

Looks 8.5/10
Service 10/10
Attitude 10/10

I don't know whether I'm ever going to have sex like that again, because no wife/gf would ever do that. Anyways, good luck guys!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Rex69
11-18-07, 04:05
Newbie here. I've read most of the forum and still have a question.

Shanghai hotel has a great sauna for fun. But the hotel doesn't seem that nice to stay in. Are there nicer hotels in the area to stay and play in Shanghai hotel only?

Cheers.

Yanville
11-18-07, 08:34
Anyone tried alyssa & her sister at Manhattan? Different ages (of course) but you can see they are really sisters. Alyssa is only about 20 I should say. I want to try them together but no luck yet as the price quote is too high. Anyone else try? They've been a fixture at Manhattan club for a few months. Is it weird to want sisters together? If I get lucky where is the best SS hotel around there? I mean clean as well as price.

Ocean25
11-18-07, 13:38
Hi guys,

Do most of the massages in regular hotels include sexual service or are they just normal nonsexual massages? I'm staying at the Doreru hotel. If I use the massage downstairs do you think I can get a HJ?

Albert Punter
11-18-07, 16:40
Never heard bad reports about Shanghai Hotel (as hotel accommodation).
Anyhow, in case it doesn't suit you, you can try Hilton or Equatorial, both around the corner fron Shanghai Hotel, first located on Hanshan Lu and second on Yanan Lu.


Newbie here. I've read most of the forum and still have a question.

Shanghai hotel has a great sauna for fun. But the hotel doesn't seem that nice to stay in. Are there nicer hotels in the area to stay and play in Shanghai hotel only?

Cheers.

Omniman
11-18-07, 19:20
Anyone tried alyssa & her sister at Manhattan? Different ages (of course) but you can see they are really sisters. Alyssa is only about 20 I should say. I want to try them together but no luck yet as the price quote is too high. Anyone else try? They've been a fixture at Manhattan club for a few months. Is it weird to want sisters together? If I get lucky where is the best SS hotel around there? I mean clean as well as price.I visit Shanghai from HK every month, usually I stay in the Hilton. I have stayed with a Filipina girl called Alyssa from Manhattan 2 times (she is small, only 5 feet, quite cute, nice body, FL on visa, quite young for that place – she told me 21, likes to drink). She does have a sister there but she's a little old for me. Alyssa knows all the positions and really seems to like her work, but a little too conservative for my liking (No BJTC or BBBJ etc.) Price was 800 all day.

My trick is to make arrangement at night or early morning in the bar and then meet the girl after a SS&S for breakfast in your hotel and then a full morning of fun, because if you take her to the hotel late at night there is trouble with registering the girl. Also by 2 or 3 in the morning I am usually too pissed to do much. In fact sometimes when I see the girl after sobering up she doesn't look quite as good as she did the night before. I suppose they all start to look good after a few drinks!

But a word of caution. Although I used a beret it must have slipped or something and I spent 3 weeks out of action! After several experiments with different pills I was OK though. On my next trip I thought I would be a gentleman and tell her she should see the quack, but she became very mad and said I must have caught it somewhere else. I know I didn't because I never went with anyone else that trip but she wouldn't listen so I would not take her again. I don't know if she got herself checked up later. The trouble with NSU is I know from experience (over 15 years) that for many types of VD girls don't show symptoms (like burning [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) or discharge).

Incidentally this is not the first time I have caught the clap after wearing a beret. Anyone else faced this problem before? I am married so I had to be pretty convincing with my reasons for abstaining for 3 weeks when I got home!

I must say, although I don't want to upset the locals in Shanghai, that there is a far better choice in HK and because prositution is legal here the girls are never hassled by police or immigration. Also I have never had a bad experience here. However, soliciting is illegal and the FLs don’t usually carry condoms because although prostitution is legal those on tourist visas can be sent home fro Breach of Conditions of Stay if they are routinely searched. Searching is rare though because immigration/ police are mainly looking for over-stayers. Many female overstayers frequent the HK bars. Thirdly because of the very large number of ladies of all ethnic persuasions here (mostly on renewable 2 week visas) the price has fallen over the last 12 months to a very acceptable all-time low. Kind of inversely proportionate to the stock market!

Lastly, the policy of all the Wanchai bars is not to allow LB’s in the discos and I’ve never seen one there – they lurk in the street outside and you can usually tell because they have an Adam’s Apple!

For those who don't want to sleep at all there is the Bridge Bar in Lockhart Road HK which gets going about 5 a. M. Until 10. 30 a. M. The girls who work in the regular girlei bars go there when the finish work and quality is excellent. Only thing is by that time a lot of people are drunk after all night bingeing and theres the occasional fight. Usually amongst the girls.

I think it would be good to have a feedback forum thread on particular girls in particular bars so that members could beware those who are no good (or diseased) and enjoy the ones with good write-up. A name or picture would do (I always take a picture or two to cherish in my old age).

CK Cheung
11-19-07, 03:31
Gentlemen,

As a long timer lurker of this board, I enjoy reading the experiences shared. As someone had noted ealier, it would be great if Jackson could include a forum on "Freebies".

Indeed there are freebies out there! Of course its not free when you first meet them in the sauna establishment, but I've been in situations after visiting them once they then become freebies...once they cling on to you or bug you to visit them at the sauna that's when I bail.

Freebie's from Huashan Massage: For those legacy members who remember Huashan massage on Nanjing road, which now moved to Lucky Garden Sauna (same owner). I've had 3-4 freebies from there. One is still a freebie today. Basically the MO is too be friendly to them; take them out for lunch/ dinner and then once they become comfortable with you there's nothing stopping you from getting the gooods. Bear in mind when you go out with a sauna chics you already know that sexual inhibitions are lowered and you won't get any of that "I'm a nice girl attitude" from them.

I'm now interested in hearing member's experience in having affairs with married Chinese woman (I myself is also married). I know Eagle Star is the legend in this category, but would be keen to know those who have experiened the under 30 married chinese woman. A former colleague, who is married for about 3 years, is hitting on me and she also knows that I'm married. I would love to screw her brains out, but concerned about the risks associated with it.

Thank you

WinteRain
11-19-07, 04:37
How do you guys usually get to that DATY stage where the girl is in mutual enjoyment ? From nearly ALL my attempts, the girl ends up pushing away because:

1) It's too ticklish
2) She doesn't like it
3) It's unhygienic

I'm gonna put the blame on probably my inexperience, so I'm asking. :)

Majority of girls found it ticklish, which is wierd coz I've never encountered this reaction outside China.

Rex69
11-19-07, 05:43
(I always take a picture or two to cherish in my old age).If you have some pic, please share and post some.

Thanks

Rex69
11-19-07, 06:09
Never heard bad reports about Shanghai Hotel (as hotel accommodation).

Anyhow, in case it doesn't suit you, you can try Hilton or Equatorial, both around the corner fron Shanghai Hotel, first located on Hanshan Lu and second on Yanan Lu.Thanks for the info. I'm booking into the Equatorial.

I've read in a Hong Kong posting about a Shanghai cityweekend website outcall classified:

Are they for real? or bait & switch or even worst a big rip off?

http://www.cityweekend.com.cn/shanghai/classifieds/view/31592/
http://www.cityweekend.com.cn/shanghai/classifieds/view/31571/

Etc....

Thanks.

Omniman
11-19-07, 11:42
If you have some pic, please share and post some.

ThanksI have picture and even movie - how to post I dunno?

==================================================

Greetings Omniman,

Step by step instructions for posting phoots may be found here...

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-imageinstructions.php#uploadingphotos

Thanks,

Jackson

GlenEagle
11-19-07, 12:26
Are they for real? or bait & switch or even worst a big rip off?

http://www.cityweekend.com.cn/shanghai/classifieds/view/31592/
http://www.cityweekend.com.cn/shanghai/classifieds/view/31571/


The pages in the classification are no longer there.

GlenEagle

Omniman
11-19-07, 13:19
How do you guys usually get to that DATY stage where the girl is in mutual enjoyment ? From nearly ALL my attempts, the girl ends up pushing away because:

1) It's too ticklish
2) She doesn't like it
3) It's unhygienic

I'm gonna put the blame on probably my inexperience, so I'm asking. :)

Majority of girls found it ticklish, which is wierd coz I've never encountered this reaction outside China.I always find they love it. Are you crazy. They always say it makes their hair stand on end!

Rex69
11-20-07, 00:44
The pages in the classification are no longer there.

GlenEagleSorry, here's one from today. Sounds too good. Any comments?

http://www.cityweekend.com.cn/shanghai/classifieds/view/34708/

http://www.cityweekend.com.cn/shanghai/classifieds/view/34706/

http://www.cityweekend.com.cn/shanghai/classifieds/view/34709/

Rex69
11-20-07, 00:51
I have picture and even movie - how to post I dunno?

==============================================

Greetings Omniman,

Step by step instructions for posting phoots may be found here...

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-imageinstructions.php#uploadingphotos

Thanks,

JacksonWhen uploaded, please post the link here so we can enjoy.

Thanks mate.

Rex69
11-20-07, 07:00
Never heard bad reports about Shanghai Hotel (as hotel accommodation).

Anyhow, in case it doesn't suit you, you can try Hilton or Equatorial, both around the corner fron Shanghai Hotel, first located on Hanshan Lu and second on Yanan Lu.Albert,

Sorry to keep asking about hotels.

Do you know if the Crowne Plaza hotel Shanghai-400 Pan Yu Road or Central hotel Shanghai- 555 Jiu Jiang Road within 5-10 minutes walk to Shanghai Hotel?

I like to monger in comfort.

Thanks,

Rex

Doctopuss
11-20-07, 07:02
How do you guys usually get to that DATY stage where the girl is in mutual enjoyment ? From nearly ALL my attempts, the girl ends up pushing away because:

1) It's too ticklish
2) She doesn't like it
3) It's unhygienic

I'm gonna put the blame on probably my inexperience, so I'm asking. :)

Majority of girls found it ticklish, which is wierd coz I've never encountered this reaction outside China.


Hope you find this helpfull...found a very meaty article on or rather GUIDE on DATY in the South American Thread (or was it Europe...Damn I can't remember) sometime back. Being an enthusiastic DATY man, I downloaded it. Would give credit to the original writer if only I remembered who wrote it. Anyways here it is.

Keep Eating!
Doc!

Eaglestar
11-20-07, 07:51
Hope you find this helpfull...found a very meaty article on or rather GUIDE on DATY in the South American Thread (or was it Europe...Damn I can't remember) sometime back. Being an enthusiastic DATY man, I downloaded it. Would give credit to the original writer if only I remembered who wrote it. Anyways here it is.

Keep Eating!
Doc!

Yesssss, that is a classic. I also found it somewhere and saved it on my laptop. Asked one of my lady friends and she agreed 100% with every word.

ES

Zhuren
11-20-07, 07:53
Strictly based on my own observations and anecdotal evidence: The average (i.e. "good") Chinese girl doesn't seem to be a lot into oral. Neither giving nor receiving. That's why the average Chinese male gets most of his oral treatments in the sauna. Where it is doled out in excess. This sets the Chinese well apart from her Western, and especially Japanese sisters. Western girls get upset when not serviced properly. Japanese are oral maniacs.



How do you guys usually get to that DATY stage where the girl is in mutual enjoyment ? From nearly ALL my attempts, the girl ends up pushing away because:

1) It's too ticklish
2) She doesn't like it
3) It's unhygienic

I'm gonna put the blame on probably my inexperience, so I'm asking. :)

Majority of girls found it ticklish, which is wierd coz I've never encountered this reaction outside China.

Shanguanghuse
11-20-07, 08:24
Seriously consent to Zhuren's comment. My Japanese girl really enjoy sucking. However, no Chinese gal is in the mood for sucking, expect for the case she is in need of cash!

Mock A Bee
11-20-07, 08:35
Gentlemen,

As a long timer lurker of this board, I enjoy reading the experiences shared. As someone had noted ealier, it would be great if Jackson could include a forum on "Freebies".

Indeed there are freebies out there! Of course its not free when you first meet them in the sauna establishment, but I've been in situations after visiting them once they then become freebies...once they cling on to you or bug you to visit them at the sauna that's when I bail.

Freebie's from Huashan Massage: For those legacy members who remember Huashan massage on Nanjing road, which now moved to Lucky Garden Sauna (same owner). I've had 3-4 freebies from there. One is still a freebie today. Basically the MO is too be friendly to them; take them out for lunch/ dinner and then once they become comfortable with you there's nothing stopping you from getting the gooods. Bear in mind when you go out with a sauna chics you already know that sexual inhibitions are lowered and you won't get any of that "I'm a nice girl attitude" from them.

I'm now interested in hearing member's experience in having affairs with married Chinese woman (I myself is also married). I know Eagle Star is the legend in this category, but would be keen to know those who have experiened the under 30 married chinese woman. A former colleague, who is married for about 3 years, is hitting on me and she also knows that I'm married. I would love to screw her brains out, but concerned about the risks associated with it.

Thank you

Get an account so I can PM you.
I would be happy to trade war stories off-line.

MAB

Ohio29
11-20-07, 10:43
Hi Guys,

Plan to be in Shanghai next week for about 3-4 days. I will be staying at the Royal Meridien. I am presuming and also hoping that it is girl friendly and that there are no problems. I have read through the forum a lot and while there is a lot of information about Saunas and Massage Parlors there is not a lot of info on where to pick up outcall girls.

I would appreciate some additional information on this and also would it make much sense to try out the mssage girls from the hotel. Will they be willing to go the extra mile in service for an additional tip??

Also how far is this hotel from the infamous Shanghai Hotel.

John Euro
11-20-07, 12:19
Hi Guys,

Plan to be in Shanghai next week for about 3-4 days. I will be staying at the Royal Meridien. I am presuming and also hoping that it is girl friendly and that there are no problems.
the mssage girls from the hotel. Will they be willing to go the extra mile in service for an additional tip??

Also how far is this hotel from the infamous Shanghai Hotel.I stayed recently in the Le Royal Meridien two times, I am sure it’s GF, I have seen many times guest’s picking up the girls from the lobby level, non guest are not allowed to use upper elevators, actually the elevators from the main entrance ground floor are going only till 9th floor where the lobby is, a lot of security guy’s on that floor and mainly in front of the elevators that are going to the guest rooms, If any problem, your can always say that you are going to the sky view bar at the top floor, but bringing GF inside no problem is far as I have seen. See my reports back in this show thread and you will find info on going to famous Shanghai sauna etc?

Massage in the hotel with extra’s, Forget it, men to men only massage, see my report.

Nr 2094 – 10.08.07
Nr 2067 – 10.04.07
Nr 2068 – 10.04.07
Nr 2086 – 10.06.07
Nr 2119 – 10.12.07

Hope this as been helpful

John Euro

Guybert56
11-20-07, 12:51
strictly based on my own observations and anecdotal evidence: the average (i.e. "good") chinese girl doesn't seem to be a lot into oral. neither giving nor receiving. that's why the average chinese male gets most of his oral treatments in the sauna. where it is doled out in excess. this sets the chinese well apart from her western, and especially japanese sisters. western girls get upset when not serviced properly. japanese are oral maniacs.i beg to differ. my experience is quite the opposite. i have found, once you get beyond the little cultural barrier (almost like chinese gift giving/receiving) you will find a very willing partner. i think they are very unaccustomed to anyone paying attention to their needs so it is a bit confusing at first. i get the strong impression foreplay is highly underrated by c men! think of it like your first experience with a virgin. they think they don't taste/smell good enough or they think it's weird. i don't know. i'm certainly not a shrink nor a sex therapist. i just know that once i get gently past the initial push back, i get a mouth full of lovely. i have had some of the most intense enjoyment from the girls and they become very participative. from the spa girls to the sauna babes, they really enjoy. i would say 85% are not only willing, but excited to receive good tongue action. then for some really interesting feelings, just do some g spot massage while dining and you can have them loose track of time and everything else. usually that is when they start giving their phone number. just mho. ymmv. gb56

Eaglestar
11-20-07, 15:40
Gentlemen,

As a long timer lurker of this board, I enjoy reading the experiences shared. As someone had noted ealier, it would be great if Jackson could include a forum on "Freebies".

Indeed there are freebies out there! Of course its not free when you first meet them in the sauna establishment, but I've been in situations after visiting them once they then become freebies...once they cling on to you or bug you to visit them at the sauna that's when I bail.

Freebie's from Huashan Massage: For those legacy members who remember Huashan massage on Nanjing road, which now moved to Lucky Garden Sauna (same owner). I've had 3-4 freebies from there. One is still a freebie today. Basically the MO is too be friendly to them; take them out for lunch/ dinner and then once they become comfortable with you there's nothing stopping you from getting the gooods. Bear in mind when you go out with a sauna chics you already know that sexual inhibitions are lowered and you won't get any of that "I'm a nice girl attitude" from them.

I'm now interested in hearing member's experience in having affairs with married Chinese woman (I myself is also married). I know Eagle Star is the legend in this category, but would be keen to know those who have experiened the under 30 married chinese woman. A former colleague, who is married for about 3 years, is hitting on me and she also knows that I'm married. I would love to screw her brains out, but concerned about the risks associated with it.

Thank you

"Former colleague"? If she is former colleague go for it and bang her box. What is the risk? Maybe I don't understand.

Yeah you are right I have only had a few (15-20 over the past 6 years) under 30. Get a membership and meet with MAB and I for a cocktail? We will lie to you through our teeth (especially MAB) he he he

ES

Doctopuss
11-20-07, 15:49
Hi Guys,

Plan to be in Shanghai next week for about 3-4 days. I will be staying at the Royal Meridien. I am presuming and also hoping that it is girl friendly and that there are no problems. I have read through the forum a lot and while there is a lot of information about Saunas and Massage Parlors there is not a lot of info on where to pick up outcall girls.

I would appreciate some additional information on this and also would it make much sense to try out the mssage girls from the hotel. Will they be willing to go the extra mile in service for an additional tip??

Also how far is this hotel from the infamous Shanghai Hotel.


Hey Ohio,

Before you get pushed in front of the RTFF squad, let me pass on a few good pointers as I am almost in the same situation (planning a trip to Shanghai).

First you'll actually have to RTFF to get to know this place. Infact if you read the first 12-13 pages you'll realize that over tipping or paying above the market actually does the opposite of getting you extras. Chinese see you more like a loser if you pay more. Normally people here recommend tipping only as a good gesture only AFTER the deed. As for the hotel massage...clue is the SPECIAL MASSAGE on the tariff. Infact what people say about here is that, you can without embaressment ask what you really want. If they offer; good, if not they will say no without taking any offence. Normally you can spot the FS massage by the price difference between the regular massages and the special/oil massage. For example others are 200 or 150 RMB and then there is one for 500 or 600 RMB...the higher is it. In case of a 5 star hotel, the base massages would be higher but then so would the gap between the base and the FS...if they do offer one.

Read the ROD...you'll get to know everything inside out. Especially the report Shanghai 101 by Gualter Malde (pardon me for spelling it incorrectly). You'll find the link on the last page of ROD.

Yes I do agree that info on outcall is comparatively low compared to BBS, KTVs and Saunas but then most people point out through out the forum that picking up a girl is quite easy in Shanghai, there are a few spots which are hot favorites but you can also pick up women in almost any club/pub/bar. Infact most of them they come over to you. Read the Shanghai 101 report and you'll understand.

Hotel info given here is low as well, but if you go through the thread, you'll realize that all hotels are not GF...so do not assume that your hotel is GF. I have finally been able to identify atleast 2 hotels of my liking and budget that are GF (thanks to the reports here and some deeper digging into the forum).

Shanghai hotel is surprizingly not mentioned on most travel sites..but I have been able to pinpoint it in the vicinity of Hilton and Equitorial (correct me if I am wrong guys)...so click on any hotel listing website, search for these hotels and you'll get the distance from your hotel.

To cut it short...Dig a little deeper and all your questions will be answered. BTW I have never been to China as yet.

Keep reading,
Doc!

PassinThrough
11-20-07, 17:22
If you want outcall to the hotel I would pick up a copy of the Shanghai Daily and go to the back where there is a list of places that do outcall massage. Some of them are rip offs, though I don't remember which ones. I usually used one called "Luci" or "Suzi" something like that. If you look at the ads you should find it easily. They would always tell me that it was 1000 rmb for an hour but I would say I used them before and it was less then they would come down to 600 or 700. The girls they sent were good and would enjoy a fun hour with mutual showers. I would make sure you have a condom as once the girl didn't have one and was ready to bareback before I pulled one out.

I would also suggest you go to some of the pick up places like Bourbon St and Zapadas and choose your own, bring her back with you to stay the night and get a couple sessions out of it. You can get her number and call her back when ever you want. You can do the same at some of the BBS places but it is easier if you speak Chinese.

PIT

Silk Fan
11-21-07, 03:35
Could some learned Chinese-literate brother please post the characters & pinyin for azithromycin? Not that I think I need some, ummm hehehe.

AsnDragon
11-21-07, 08:30
Had a Japaneses girl also. Very good at sucking. I think it's all that AV (Adult Videos) they produce in Japan that has helped train them to be great givers of BJ. Seriously, who other Asian culture is as horny, and open about sex and produce the most amount of Porn than the Japanese? Nobody.

However, Chinese girls are prettier, have better teeth on average, and have better bodies. So it's a give and take....I'll still choose Chinese. BJ's are an acquired skill that can be trained. But you cannot train the girl to be a hot eye candy.


Seriously consent to Zhuren's comment. My Japanese girl really enjoy sucking. However, no Chinese gal is in the mood for sucking, expect for the case she is in need of cash!

Silk Fan
11-21-07, 08:35
万艾可 [wànàikě]

Better to get ones moneys worth even without falling hopelessly in lust (as commonly happens to me about every 6 minutes here), so 1 vitamin V is better than 1000 tic tacs in some situations.

Not news Viagra is available over the counter. Heed the good advice already posted; save your rmb for the larger pharmacies to avoid counterfeits. Reportedly even Watson's markets offer for sale (I loooov dis coontry!). Neither news that the goods are relatively expensive, 100mg~110RMB, 5 pack for ~500. Well I always felt that good tools are worth the extra money.

Of course it can take awhile to get the request over in the pharmacy, so here is the hanzi & pinyin as written on the package, to assist with your next marketing trip.

万艾可 [wà nài kě]

Amusingly, my e_dictionary translates that as [10 thousand "ai" but]. Deep.

WinteRain
11-21-07, 14:50
Could some learned Chinese-literate brother please post the characters & pinyin for azithromycin? Not that I think I need some, ummm hehehe.A...Azeethromee...w..w.whattttt??

Parasitius
11-21-07, 16:56
azithromycin is 阿奇霉素 a qi mei su with tones a1 qi2 mei2 su4

and be careful, I tried self-treating for something which the web said Asian strains are resistant to, and in the end I killed 99% leaving the 1% to come back and almost (or so the doctor said) become 'cronic'. You have to annihilate the stuff with proper doctor's care.

World Guy Sh
11-24-07, 05:39
Went to the Shanghai Hotel - not planned and the first trip in months just after 6.30 last night. Procedure as previously described. Didn't hang around for the add ons and went straight to the line up (OK, had a shower obviously).

Line up of 20 girls - some tall 8's, some less atrractive 5-6's. Got smiled at by a girl near me, small rack, OK face. Not the best looker by a long way but not bad. Turned out she was from Shanghai and spoke English. If you are new to China and/or the SH and can't speak a word of Chinese (I can, some anyway) she is worth looking up.

Great BBBJ (I blew, happens rarely), OK cat bath, Red Robe (not bad, but happy to do more when asked) and nice FS. Mish. She wouldn't do anything else ("Big"). Other plus, she wasn't noisy - no fake moaning but an O towards the end. No DATY but did get DFK, but that took a while and then she seemed really into it.

Came away with an e mail address, go figure! New one on me.

Scores on the doors:

Looks:6-7 (YMMV)
BBBJ: 8-9
FS:7-8
Attitude:8
Speaks English
Age: 24 from Shanghai
Number 57
750RMB - 1 Hour

Am attaching the card for the SH for anyone who doesn't know it . . . And for those new to Shanghai, this is probably the only building in Shanghai where floor 1 in the lift is one level above ground . . . . (usually ground floor). If you go to the Chinese '2nd floor' you'll think the place is shut.

BTW - saw a couple of western guys in there - one finishing up, one (younger) sat shaving rady to go. Any of you guys from on here? Be great to hear your girl reports as well.

WGS

World Guy Sh
11-24-07, 05:50
When I managed to stumble out on the wrong floor of the Shanghai Hotel last night which I think was at the 'legit' spa I was stopped by a man (member of staff) who looked at me knowlingly, said 'sauna? '. I made clear I knew I was on the wrong floor but before departing he gave me the attached card. Said it was a 'great place' with 'beautiful' and 'soft' (eh? ) girls and wanted to take me.

Naturally a) I knew what I wanted (the fabled SH sauna) and b) nevergo with a tout. It was obvious ti wasn't at the SH. Anyway, he then presented the attached card.

Now, my knowledge of Han Zi is not great, so have no idea what or where this is. Anyone able to enlighten me? I am guessing it is is the Yanan Hotel, but the map looks wrong (YH anyone? ) Is it somewhere we all know or somewhere new? The guy knew exactly what I was after so sure it will be FS. .

Ready to be laughed at for having posted a card for a very well known place! If it is new, happy to try and report.

WGS

Mojo888
11-24-07, 09:09
Tried the World Plaza Sauna (B2) and I like it a lot. I've been the SH HOTEL before and that is still one of my favorites, but this sauna is also up there. It has a relaxed, easy-going feeling about it. Like a fun and sleasy lounge. They give you a selection of 5 girls and I really could have chosen any of the 5, and I'm pretty picky. No. 55, from Guangdong, was great. Pretty, wonderful personality, playful, loves sex and great body with medium-sized tits of great shape. A very unhurried experience. Another great SH spot to enjoy.

[QUOTE=Blackjai]Hi,

I just tried World Plaza Pudong this afternoon and to keep it real short for those who doesn't wanna read the entire post, its definitely a good spot.

Derek69
11-24-07, 10:40
Hi together,

II am looking for some company tonight! Just going out for a few beers and looking for some fun.

Best Derek

Ringer5
11-24-07, 11:33
I've known a few to refuse it because they think your mouth is unhygienic. The clue here is that they will already have refused to allow you to moisten your fingers with saliva as a lubricant.

I also met one who was reluctant because she thought her genital area was "not clean". After she accepted the logic that she had just showered thoroughly we got beyond that point and she became very enthusiastic.

One girl who was happy to receive DATY told me she only gets it from Western men, and although it's considered a bit weird around here, she has no objections. In fact, she kidded me that I was only allowed one shot, but she came three times. Thank you and have a nice day!

My advice, then, is to build up to it and make her feel comfortable, don't just dive in there.

"How do you guys usually get to that DATY stage where the girl is in mutual enjoyment? From nearly ALL my attempts, the girl ends up pushing away because:

1) It's too ticklish
2) She doesn't like it
3) It's unhygienic

I'm gonna put the blame on probably my inexperience, so I'm asking. :)

Majority of girls found it ticklish, which is wierd coz I've never encountered this reaction outside China./"

Cap Iota
11-24-07, 12:13
yeah..that card's for yu he sauna. it's on yu yuan lu in a little alley. just ur regular typical FS sauna...nothing special.

cap iota

Albert Punter
11-24-07, 15:40
Sorry friend, but your question is not clear to me.

Are you asking if those hotels are equipped with on-premise sauna ?
I don't know.

Are you asking if they are girl friendly ?
I don't know either.

Only thing I know about Central Hotel is that you can eat the best crabs in town.


Albert,

Sorry to keep asking about hotels.

Do you know if the Crowne Plaza hotel Shanghai-400 Pan Yu Road or Central hotel Shanghai- 555 Jiu Jiang Road within 5-10 minutes walk to Shanghai Hotel?

I like to monger in comfort.

Thanks,

Rex

Albert Punter
11-24-07, 15:46
I may agree that average (as per Zhuren definition) Chinese girls are not much into oral, but into "giving oral" only in my experience.

Normally all Chinese freebies I drive to bed like DATY very much, even though I don't do exactly as explained in the DATY guide another member posted.
When they don't finish with orgasm, as I am tired and I would like some pleasure myself, many of them require/insist I continue as they enjoy a lot.

Rex69
11-24-07, 16:55
Sorry friend, but your question is not clear to me.

Are you asking if those hotels are equipped with on-premise sauna ?
I don't know.

Are you asking if they are girl friendly ?
I don't know either.

Only thing I know about Central Hotel is that you can eat the best crabs in town.Albert,

Sorry for the unclear question. Let me try again :-)

I like to know if the Crowne Plaza hotel and the Central hotel near the Shanghai Hotel (walking distance?, how many miles?)

I prefer to stay at the nicer hotels and walk to Shanghai hotel, if the distance is too far.

I've read some thread about long waits for taxi and thus the walking distance question.

Thanks.

Opticus
11-24-07, 18:00
After a long day of business my body was asking for some relaxation and I decided to pay a visit to the notoriously famous Shanghai Hotel Sauna at around 10 pm. I was there about a year ago and had a very good experience, so why not try again.
Went up to the sauna floor and was greated with a smile, nothing has changed, everyone is very friendly. I took off my clothes in the locker room and took a shower followed by a few minutes in the Sauna to relax the sore muscles. The plunge pool looks quite clean as the rest of the place. I took the body scrub afterwards which is really a nice experience. Dressed into pyjamas and went to the rest room to cool off. A girl served me a drink and I relaxed a few minutes, then went to the "special" massage area. About 8 girls were lined up to choose in all body shapes from very petite to busty. I picked no. 70, medium sized, nice face and very friendly. The thing I particularly like in a good sauna is that the girls even thank you for chosing them! So off we went to the room and it turned out that she spoke decent english. Into the room she made the usual call and went out to pick up her stuff. I did not mind because as it turned out later she really did the full hour AFTER she came back.
After she returned we undressed and she started a nice catbath on my backside without too much noise followed by a lotion massage with some water which felt good. Then she covered me with a towel and started a harder massage. Then she told me to turn around and started to work the front side. She picked up a condom put it into her mouth and started a slow sensual bj. I started to finger her which she happily let do. She had a very nice and clean pussy, one of these rare natural semi-bold ones with a few hair on her pelvis but none down. I directed her into a 69 position and could find out that this was real natural, she was not shaved. Man, did she enjoy it, you could tell by her pussy AND her mouth contractions! ( just to refer to some earlier reports about daty chinese girls, I have never found one that did not enjoy it, about 50 % get a shaking orgasm, even the pros, which you can tell by how their body moves).

We then turned into a cowgirl position ( my favorite ) with very slow motions, very enjoyable. She actually went back to a bj in between ( with changing the condom ) and went back to ride the pole.

I tried to hold on as long as possible until she was really sweating because she did the work, I know I'm a lazy boy, but what the heck.

She then got off and finished now with a bbbj, very slow with some nice strokes in between. I have to admit she was an expert in that, she is one of the real rare ones that can hold you just on the edge and has total control. I finished with cim and was totally exhausted. After that she slowly clean all messy parts and told me that there are 10 minutes left and she would give me massage so I was totally relaxed and I almost fell asleep.

Returned to take a shower and dressed.

The final damage was 750 including the body scrub which I think was fair for the outstanding service that I received. BTW, it is 650 before 7 pm.

Fellow mongers, you can get cheaper sex but certainly not better than this.
The Shanghai Sauna is becoming my favourite. Not only for the girls but for the total service that they offer. Highly recommended.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Kangaroy
11-24-07, 18:35
Okay guys, my first report.

As I am moving to Shanghai in January, I've been here for almost a week now to find suitable accomodation. I thought I had read the forum enough to make my way through China pretty okay, but have realized quickly that being Scandinavian I am simply too naive (or stupid, call it what u want).

On my second evening here, I decided to take a walk and have a look around, and hoped for some action flying my way. Went to the People's Square and took a strool. Sure enough - there were plenty of people offering "sexy massages" and the like, but I kept on walking as I am generally not too fond of being propositioned on the street. At one point though, a guy came up and asked if I would like to go to a bar where I could have a beer, relax and look at some beautiful girls. Sounded like a cool thing. Sounded relaxed and safe. At any rate, he then brings me to some street close to Nanjing Road (apologies, I have NO idea where I went specifically), and brings me up to what was apparently a Karaoke bar (KTV). Now I had read that these things are generally expensive, but I thought "what the hell, Im in China for the first time, lemme go for it anyway". The managers spoke good English, and so it somehow seemed less threatening at any rate. A lineup of about 6-8 girls were brought in (all beautiful in my opinion) and I chose one almost at random. Drinks were brought in non-stop, and some dancing, kissing and groping ensued along with it. A lot of fun - make no mistake about it. Well, at least until the check came.... 9000RMBs... Now that is a tidy amount of money even in pricy Scandinavia... Now I knew I was in a bad spot: obviously I was being cheated big-time, but at the same time I HAD spent almost 3 hours in there, and had not paid attention to the drinks being served (expecting/hoping them to be dirt-cheap in China). Not knowing a word of Chinese, being drunk, etc. I reluctantly paid. Only struck me when I left the place what a perfect sucker I must have been.

To somehow rectify the night I decided to call an outcall agency, escort-China.net, and booked Lily for the night. Cute girl, with "panzer"-nipples. Coughed up another 1500RMBs for two hours, but compared to the earlier rip-off it felt like a bargin :p

Today I was taking a stroll down Nanjing Road, and was again ambushed by hordes of people offering "sexy-massage", but turned them all down. Quite a few girls came up to me and wanted to "practise their English". I turned down all when it came to the part where they want to sit down and have food/drinks, but one was so cute I said okay. Suggested that we sit down at one of the outdoor bars there, but she of course insisted that we go to some bar she knew of. Having read some reports here I was already somewhat skeptical, but then I was quite pleased that the place she wanted looked very respectable (some American style "coffee-shop" on the 2. floor overlooking a square and an American hotel). The menu prices looked reasonable, and so I felt safe that this would only burn me a couple of hundred RMBs or so. The little beauty next to me immediately started to order drinks (some weak whiskey-like thingy), and I thought little of it. Had another great time with this girl (first time I have groped a girl in a seemingly public restaurant), until the bill came. 3600 RMBs... Apparently the 10 whiskeys we had consumed cost 300 a pop. Again, the way I see it, no reason to get angry with anyone - again I had been a complete idiot not to control the price and pace of the drinks. I had not been the one to order the drinks (my "date" did all of that), but I assumed that the local blue-helmets would take my word over hers at any rate - and so I reluctantly accepted the bill with something resembling a smile. Again, I had been too naive..

So again I am back in my hotel room, this time waiting from Candy from Shanghai escorts, and am reflecting on just how naive I am.. To my defense I am a young guy (27) but this has been a steep learning curve indeed :p Still looking forward to move to Shanghai in January, but hoping that the cash wasted so far has taught me a lesson or two on how this country works.. Should anyone going to Shanghai read this: please do not repeat my mistakes!

Cheers guys!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Opticus
11-24-07, 18:49
Sorry fellows,

I made a mistake on the price, the service was 750 plus the body scrub, so total was 820.

BTW, did I mention that she did some very acrobatic red-rope action?

Happy mongering

Guybert56
11-25-07, 06:14
Went to have a real massage on Laoshan Lu in a place called Classical Massage. Found a pretty girl and told her I wanted an oil massage for one hour. About 25 minutes into the routine with me on my stomach, she started the hard upsell to HJ or Bxxb J or thigh job for 300 extra. I wasn't in a particularly up mood so I declined and she started with the sob stories about money. While she was standing in front of the no tipping sign. I firmly told her I only wanted a massage with no extras and basically got a pxxx poor one after that. I must say, the part leading up to the hard sell was very firm and skilled. I just got very turned off that she wouldn't take no for an answer. This is actually my second try there in the past 4 months and both times resulted in the same. I actually only got a 45 minute massage with about half of it up to any standards, a whiney bxxxch, and bad attitude. Steer clear of that shop in Pudong near the Courtyard. When FS is available for what the 'tip' plus an hour massage would cost at a nice sauna and really great service at the sauna (I even get a passable massage before FS) behind Wagas, why would I drop that much coin in a 'spa'?

Opticus
11-25-07, 07:34
Kangaroy,

Rest assured, you are not the only one that got ripped off in China, it happend to me on my fist visits in Beijing already 15 years ago, nothing has changed there. But applaud your courage to admit it and warn other newbies. The only smart thing I did when I was caught in the situation with a bill of 3000 RMB (15 years ago! ) and 3 young mafia guys around me is that I insisted on paying with credit card showing that I had no cash money. Immediately after I left the spot I called the credit card company and reported my card as stolen (think about the time difference to Europe) so no damage to my wallet.

From a seasoned traveller who has mongered most places in Asia to all newbies and this does not only apply to China: whenever and whereever you go, get yourself a picture of what is going on, get your information from forums and friends, beware of suckers that want to sell you something on the road, whether these are girls or taxis at the airport.

BTW, it is actually very easy to find girls in any place in Asia: Ask the locals, ask the bellboy in your hotel, talk to friends and business associates; CHECK THIS FORUM, it has a wealth of information.

In some cities in China like Beijing, the concentration of girls is more in pubs, in others like Shanghai it is more in Saunas and Spas, although I had quite a few times good experiences with SW for fair prices.

Keep on trying buddy, you only get smarter and I am 100 % sure you will love Shanghai because it is a great and fascinating city.


Okay guys, my first report.

As I am moving to Shanghai in January, I've been here for almost a week now to find suitable accomodation. I thought I had read the forum enough to make my way through China pretty okay, but have realized quickly that being Scandinavian I am simply too naive (or stupid, call it what u want).

On my second evening here, I decided to take a walk and have a look around, and hoped for some action flying my way. Went to the People's Square and took a strool. Sure enough - there were plenty of people offering "sexy massages" and the like, but I kept on walking as I am generally not too fond of being propositioned on the street. At one point though, a guy came up and asked if I would like to go to a bar where I could have a beer, relax and look at some beautiful girls. Sounded like a cool thing. Sounded relaxed and safe. At any rate, he then brings me to some street close to Nanjing Road (apologies, I have NO idea where I went specifically), and brings me up to what was apparently a Karaoke bar (KTV). Now I had read that these things are generally expensive, but I thought "what the hell, Im in China for the first time, lemme go for it anyway". The managers spoke good English, and so it somehow seemed less threatening at any rate. A lineup of about 6-8 girls were brought in (all beautiful in my opinion) and I chose one almost at random. Drinks were brought in non-stop, and some dancing, kissing and groping ensued along with it. A lot of fun - make no mistake about it. Well, at least until the check came.... 9000RMBs... Now that is a tidy amount of money even in pricy Scandinavia... Now I knew I was in a bad spot: obviously I was being cheated big-time, but at the same time I HAD spent almost 3 hours in there, and had not paid attention to the drinks being served (expecting/hoping them to be dirt-cheap in China). Not knowing a word of Chinese, being drunk, etc. I reluctantly paid. Only struck me when I left the place what a perfect sucker I must have been.

To somehow rectify the night I decided to call an outcall agency, escort-China.net, and booked Lily for the night. Cute girl, with "panzer"-nipples. Coughed up another 1500RMBs for two hours, but compared to the earlier rip-off it felt like a bargin :p

Today I was taking a stroll down Nanjing Road, and was again ambushed by hordes of people offering "sexy-massage", but turned them all down. Quite a few girls came up to me and wanted to "practise their English". I turned down all when it came to the part where they want to sit down and have food/drinks, but one was so cute I said okay. Suggested that we sit down at one of the outdoor bars there, but she of course insisted that we go to some bar she knew of. Having read some reports here I was already somewhat skeptical, but then I was quite pleased that the place she wanted looked very respectable (some American style "coffee-shop" on the 2. floor overlooking a square and an American hotel). The menu prices looked reasonable, and so I felt safe that this would only burn me a couple of hundred RMBs or so. The little beauty next to me immediately started to order drinks (some weak whiskey-like thingy), and I thought little of it. Had another great time with this girl (first time I have groped a girl in a seemingly public restaurant), until the bill came. 3600 RMBs... Apparently the 10 whiskeys we had consumed cost 300 a pop. Again, the way I see it, no reason to get angry with anyone - again I had been a complete idiot not to control the price and pace of the drinks. I had not been the one to order the drinks (my "date" did all of that), but I assumed that the local blue-helmets would take my word over hers at any rate - and so I reluctantly accepted the bill with something resembling a smile. Again, I had been too naive..

So again I am back in my hotel room, this time waiting from Candy from Shanghai escorts, and am reflecting on just how naive I am.. To my defense I am a young guy (27) but this has been a steep learning curve indeed :p Still looking forward to move to Shanghai in January, but hoping that the cash wasted so far has taught me a lesson or two on how this country works.. Should anyone going to Shanghai read this: please do not repeat my mistakes!

Cheers guys!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Albert Punter
11-25-07, 11:50
Rex,

Central Hotel is not far from Shanghai Hotel, however, I would take a taxi (no queues for taxis unless is raining like hell).
You could walk but then after about 30 minutes, you wn't have energies for the girl.

Sorry, but now I don't remember where Crpwne Plaza is located.


Albert,

Sorry for the unclear question. Let me try again :-)

I like to know if the Crowne Plaza hotel and the Central hotel near the Shanghai Hotel (walking distance?, how many miles?)

I prefer to stay at the nicer hotels and walk to Shanghai hotel, if the distance is too far.

I've read some thread about long waits for taxi and thus the walking distance question.

Thanks.

Imagetopixel
11-25-07, 13:36
Guybert,

Where is the FS you mention below?


When FS is available for what the 'tip' plus an hour massage would cost at a nice sauna and really great service at the sauna (I even get a passable massage before FS) behind Wagas, why would I drop that much coin in a 'spa'?

Silk Fan
11-25-07, 17:45
okay guys, my first report.

as i am moving to shanghai in january, ... i thought i had read the forum ... but have realized quickly that being scandinavian i am simply too naive (or stupid, call it what u want).

karaoke.... 9000rmbs... ... another 1500rmbs for two hours...groped a girl [for] 3600 rmbs... ... this time waiting from candy ... cheers guys!

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.howziwhoziwhat? i don't know where to begin. my gut take goes on record that this a hoak post, but hey i feel like typing and on the chance it isn't. 27 is only young if you are a tree, not merely dense as one.

i'll let better apt others to rip you up and down and re-arrange the pieces, but a couple of ponder points here. did you actually have 9000rmb with you? it's voidoid tricks like that that will get some meek tourist stabbed & slabbed in the dark off nanjing, with the wildfire word spread among resident bangers that they can glean near a honest locals yearly income by shaking a blonde tourista hard enough.

even packing a bulge like that (and when the hell this country going to mint a 1k rmb note anyway? my wallet is already splitting) sensibly crotched, and it would take a truly blownout used-up wretched hagbag to consider taking you inside for fear of internal injuries, if she thought that was your package.

now if by the gods smile you card charged the 9k rmb, by all means dial up your card service number and dispute the charge as an extortion whack.

aside, if this is how you chaperon your own, are you truly the right person to shepard your keeper's bankroll here in the wild wild east? who's shares do i dump before that woeful quarterly? you know how hard it is to do legit business after somebody soils their [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131) in a simple pre-lunch standoff?

of course, kangaroy meboy, don't take any of this the wrong way (ruining untold many markets for the rest of us, endangering innocent civilians, pissing away face in a truly legendary manner), so if you're grabbing the tab and want a karaoke buddy with a honed with & ok voice, i'll see if i am not too busy that night!

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Gonad Man
11-25-07, 19:40
Wow Kangaroy, that's a real tough time you've had there.

I almost made the same mistake my first week here. Having recently relocated here, on my first week made the same mistake of practicing "English" with a few girls. They seemed friendly and I didn't know it but the tea house they took me to ended up running a large bill. However, realizing that it was a scam I just paid for what I drank and told the girls to figure the rest out. It's definitely a thriving business though and I really feel for you.

Shanghaied2001
11-26-07, 01:23
Hi guys (and pissible gals)

Just wondering if anyone has seen or tried this add from criagslist:


massage: clean or fun? - w4m - 26

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Reply to:
Date: 2007-11-23, 10:08PM CT

your choice. offered by an attractive and slim young chinese lady as the photo shows. clean massage costs 500rmb per hour. well-manered and generous gentlemen are welcomed, no game, thanks.

I emailed her and her reply was:
clean massage 500yuan per hour.
fun massage starts from 1600yuan.
from hangzhou, 26.Any ideas or experiences?

Mrtan
11-26-07, 02:19
Got my directions all wrong! It turned out that my work booked me at the Westin on HeNan Nan Lu. Did a search here and it seems like the BBS scene around Westin is non-existent.

Any place close by that I can easily reach by taxi?

Where is the Kangding Lu BBS that was mentioned by Lao Mau? What do I tell the taxi driver to get me there?

Thanks!

Silk Fan
11-26-07, 04:16
Hi guys (and pissible gals)

Just wondering if anyone has seen or tried this add from criagslist:

Any ideas or experiences? She of photo showing sufficient mid-riff + skirt level tats to yield a fascinating comix book read during any lull? Sure would be a simple matter to determine if she was the one & same as advertised (Unless they do knockoff 1/2 body tats of popular patterns here, too.) Please consider adding a little "Kilroy was. " schmoo peaking out of the bushes if you ever get that far, just for future reference.

When I first started boning up on SH from afar, CL had a stunner or two and some average goods happy to reply with quotes and pix, but by the time I docked, a posting drought was obvious except for visiting team players and hordes of LB (boo hiss). Worse yet, the #1 candidate wasnt tending her mail box. Sting? Stung? Stank? Dunno. Still mail her every now and again, hoping it was just a misunderstanding, she was the best looking encountered by far

Recent CL review has a long time apparently sincere vendor and a few new postings too.

The quote seems a little steep but clean ink aint cheap. At first anyway.

However with it oh so easy to go window shopping and or find take out with just a little time and pluck invested, I wouldn't pay an internet tax atop the standard laowai fee.

Fritobugger
11-26-07, 04:50
I have gotten some Viagra here but I don't like the side effects so I would like to try Cialis. Is it also available in the pharmacy just like the Cialis?

Thanks!

WinteRain
11-26-07, 04:55
Hi guys (and pissible gals)

Just wondering if anyone has seen or tried this add from criagslist:

Any ideas or experiences?Look at the prices here on the forum, no one is going to pay RMB1600 for any kind of massage. Way overboard.

Rex69
11-26-07, 06:44
Rex,

Central Hotel is not far from Shanghai Hotel, however, I would take a taxi (no queues for taxis unless is raining like hell).

You could walk but then after about 30 minutes, you wn't have energies for the girl.

Sorry, but now I don't remember where Crpwne Plaza is located.Albert, Thank you.

Nightwing88
11-26-07, 07:54
Nightwing here reporting once again on another find in Pudong. Yet again, it is another 24-hour operation, so you can go at any time of the day and night for service. The place is called the "Ji Hua Bath Chamber", located on Jinhai Road in the Jin Qiao district. For those of you living at the Ramada, it's an 11 RMB taxi ride away. From the Ramada, tell the cab to go to Central Yang Gao Road (杨高中路),then go to Jinhai Lu (金海路 ). The bath house is located at number 18, just past Yang Gao Lu on the right hand side.

The bath house is extremely large and clean. When you enter, you change shoes into slippers. The locker room is gigantic and the usual attendants watch while you disrobe and enter the pool area. A large plunge pool with jacuzzi jets, shower area, sauna, and back scrubbing services awaits you. After you clean off and enjoy the hot baths, you change and head upstairs for the massage and relaxation area. The attendants try to upsell you on the healthy massages (which actually are quite good), but make sure you ask for the "Quan Tao" package. At this point, they will direct you up to the 3rd or 4th floors. There are two packages... 627 RMB (BJ and FS) and 777 (AR, BJ, FS, Breast massage, and two more that I didn't get). There is no red rope or soapland service here.

I had number 635, a cute 26-yo. Shanghainese girl. Very proportionately built, and nice perfume too!

Have fun, and keep trying out those new places!

Nightwing88

Place: Jihua Bath Chamber (吉华沐浴休闲会所 )
Location: #18, Jin Hai Road (金海路18号)
Phone: 51083999

Fritobugger
11-26-07, 08:26
I have gotten some Viagra here but I don't like the side effects so I would like to try Cialis. Is it also available in the pharmacy just like the Cialis?

Thanks!The question should have been: Is Cialis available in the pharmacy just like Viagra?

GlenEagle
11-26-07, 11:17
Okay guys, my first report.

Today I was taking a stroll down Nanjing Road, and was again ambushed by hordes of people offering "sexy-massage", but turned them all down. Quite a few girls came up to me and wanted to "practise their English". I turned down all when it came to the part where they want to sit down and have food/drinks, but one was so cute I said okay. Suggested that we sit down at one of the outdoor bars there, but she of course insisted that we go to some bar she knew of. Having read some reports here I was already somewhat skeptical, but then I was quite pleased that the place she wanted looked very respectable (some American style "coffee-shop" on the 2. floor overlooking a square and an American hotel). The menu prices looked reasonable, and so I felt safe that this would only burn me a couple of hundred RMBs or so. The little beauty next to me immediately started to order drinks (some weak whiskey-like thingy), and I thought little of it. Had another great time with this girl (first time I have groped a girl in a seemingly public restaurant), until the bill came. 3600 RMBs... Apparently the 10 whiskeys we had consumed cost 300 a pop. Again, the way I see it, no reason to get angry with anyone - again I had been a complete idiot not to control the price and pace of the drinks. I had not been the one to order the drinks (my "date" did all of that), but I assumed that the local blue-helmets would take my word over hers at any rate - and so I reluctantly accepted the bill with something resembling a smile. Again, I had been too naive..


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This seems to be same situations that happened to my buddy two weeks ago, also along Nanjing Road. My friend spends about 4-5 months a year in Shanghai and has been doing that for the last 8-10 years. He was also ripped off.

He met a girl who was looking for direction, as the girl was cute, he invited her to join him for tea (The girl must be laughing inside her heart when she heard this invitation). Instead of choosing the place to go, he just followed the place recommended by the girl (Big mistake and a clear indication that it is a scam -- as the girl is looking for direction, how can she be familiar with which place to go). The girl called one of her girl friend to join in. One was having whisky and the other one was having tea.

He ended up paying RMB 9800 for the tea and whisky that the girls consumed. When he questioned the bill, the manager told him that for the whisky, each shot is RMB 360 and each glass consists of two shots. As for the tea, it also costs a few hundred RMB per glass. He even brought a bottle of 21 years old whisky to show to my friend.

He end up paying the bill with his bank debit card and left.

Nanjing Road and People Square are dangerous places to get to know people. Stay away from any touts or any pretty cute ladies asking for directions or wanting to learn english.

Play Safe and have fun

GlenEagle

Loveasiangirls
11-26-07, 16:55
So again I am back in my hotel room, this time waiting from Candy from Shanghai escorts, and am reflecting on just how naive I am.. To my defense I am a young guy (27) but this has been a steep learning curve indeed :p Still looking forward to move to Shanghai in January, but hoping that the cash wasted so far has taught me a lesson or two on how this country works.. Should anyone going to Shanghai read this: please do not repeat my mistakes!

Cheers guys!So, how was Candy?

Fuzimiao
11-26-07, 17:41
I have gotten some Viagra here but I don't like the side effects so I would like to try Cialis. Is it also available in the pharmacy just like the Cialis?

Thanks!

Cialis is for sale at both drugstores in Laoshan Lu, I assume it's everywhere. Price 495 rmb for 4 x 20mg pills. Half a pill keeps me going (coming) for three days. I also sufferred side effects with Viagra, a stuffy nose, and its effect was minimal.

A drugstore at the west end of Weifang Lu has a board hanging outside with the words Viagra, and Levitra on it!

fz

WinteRain
11-27-07, 04:34
Cialis is for sale at both drugstores in Laoshan Lu, I assume it's everywhere. Price 495 rmb for 4 x 20mg pills. Half a pill keeps me going (coming) for three days. I also sufferred side effects with Viagra, a stuffy nose, and its effect was minimal.

A drugstore at the west end of Weifang Lu has a board hanging outside with the words Viagra, and Levitra on it!

fzIt gives you an erection for 3 days?

Silk Fan
11-27-07, 05:15
Went looking for the furongjiang soaper, think I got the building right but apparently missed the correct door, went into here. Damn. Took instead the door at the buildings corner, glass-walled foyer (right when facing the bldg, where the bldg corners around toward the gome store, two lifts inside.

Exec summary;

Much better places to play. No gripes just not recommended.

7. 5 sauna scale- attractive clean place to socialize. Bring the gang.

5. 0 monger scale (where 1 is a sidewalk / outdoor barber stool that offers a toothless special, including shower. If its raining. I've not found a 10 yet).

Up to 2nd floor. I s'pose I should learn to be honored when someone thinks so highly of me that they will barge me to the side in order to press the lift button for me.

Menu with a few choices, 750rmb tops. Desk wants Pay Now, but customer wants to Pay Later. They quickly agree to my plan.

Well done / genuine shower sauna area. Steam box nice and cloudy, hot box a little cool but had the cold plunge located right inside. A nice set up for detoxin treatments. 2 large tiled pools with big screen and submerged recliners, fairly clean & inviting looking. Damn, no facility for pole dance seminars.

Remarkable that the traffic here was substantial. I saw maybe 20 zhongguoren pass through in groups of 2 8, from pretty damn young & trying to not look awkward naked, to middle age and too loud. Didn't hear any other languages. These guys are here to loll about and ***** regarding the yard crews pittance, I suppose. Gotta envy that. I really need the language to mellow in the true experience. Take the steam/dry/plunge rounds, but the heavy traffic makes me feel like I better more on, fearing to be the last to draft talent.

Moved on to recliner room, Learned the beer was 35rmb (wtf? . Pass) and a biz suited xiaojie arrived with passable english. Asked if I like short, tall, big, small (well the answer is a enthusiastic but conditional "yes") so she could pick for me. I asked for a line up to personally inspect the troops, which seemed only ok at best with her. She passed her card asking that I sms before next trip (maybe a clue I was maybe asking for an oil change in a stereo shop. Sure they maybe can do it, but.).

Lineup was meager compared to recent expectations, 3 in poofy Jetsons dresses interfering with critical thinking. Forced to pick by face. I wonder if it is relief or chagrin when the two not-picked charge out the door. D***** number 3 was welcoming and nice though, with a just little much weight hidden in the poofs once the facts became clearer.

By nature being the active hands-on type, I am starting to believe that taking a too active role diminishes her service orientation. Relieves them from giving me a "my day" experience. Its not like there is a discount for every O caused. I am going to try to lay back and take it in. Someday. Soon. Real soon

Bright spot. Our mutual language skills are weak but I gather the 2 party hats were intened to use one, sleep awhile, and she would stay there / come back later, in order to rewind my sundial, put on the second coat as it were. Mental note. Allow more time and see how long the meter is fed. Wonder how they will deal with the food delivery guy asking for the laowai in 5b the next morning.

Aaaanywaaay, it started to get a little gfe while spooning to bring her off. Permits deep node drilling without the internal reorganization (semi-hate that eye pop that says "urtoof'ingdeep), Right up until the really weak post-massage reminds me I really have to be going.

Abandonded back to the foot massage room for some more of that great lukewarm tap water & TV. I eventually poke into the hall way to request a sherpa to show me out, smack into yet another long herd of newcomers passing by (who seemed intriqued about spotting a laowai in their haunt). I felt like I had to insist for the apres-shower, and none of the gracious towel handing protocol. Anyway, self service is OK with me at this point.

Out toward the cool air, 750 rmb cooler. Could have got a nice printout receipt. Tax purposes? Unrushed by anyone but myself, Saturday 200pm checkin 430 out the door.

This visit left me still hoping for a soaping, I need to re-RTFF for better clues on the correct door in that same building for the correct place, or would someone who I jsut saved a second rate experience please post another set of clues to the furongjiang soapy for us that enjoy terminal CRS.

As vague descriptions cost time and hormoneys, in the interests of encourging better travel guides, here are the essentials best I can do.

Royal Silver Spring Sauna,
皇 家 銀 杲
huáng jiā yín (gǎo? not sure).

Furongjiang between Tienshan & Beidi,
168 2 might have something to do with it.

PS, the adjacent building, south across street and behind all electronic/computer store building boasts a few intriguing possibilities. If you would like me to scout them out, travel expense donations now being accepted !

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Cento
11-27-07, 06:49
Sometimes you feel you just want something delivered to you so I opened the web and found this girl :
http://album.shanghai-escort.com/cherry/cherry1.jpg
So I say ok 1000 rmb is too much but she seems ok and I am too lazy and tired to go searching (its day time).
The lady on the phone said she would come in 1 hour she came in 2.30.
When I opened the door I tried for 10 min to understand if she was the one in the pic. I finaly made my conclusion: She sure was . So my congratulations to the photographer and the photoshop guys.
First of all her teeth were brown.
She lacked beauty .
When she took her clothes off she had a nasty big scar in her bacside 30cm so her ass did not look like an ass anymore.
Her tits were nice but she looked like a picasso painting.
And the worse ... leg hair 2 cm long.... wow ...
She took a shower But seems she didnt wash her privats . And it seems she hadnt washed her privats for longer than she HAD shaved her legs...ooooohhhh that smell..
I had a moment of hesitation..and "SORRY MY PHONE RANG AND ITS MY BOSS" ..I HAVE TO GO ..(I called myself from another phone) ... 200 rmb for taxi and free. I could pay 2000 to get rid of her..
LESSON LEARNED: Go to the bars and find something nice. Go to saunas and choose....

Icup 123
11-27-07, 07:13
Sometimes you feel you just want something delivered to you so I opened the web and found this girl:

http: //album. Shanghai-escort.com/cherry/cherry1.jpg So I say ok 1000 rmb is too much but she seems ok and I am too lazy and tired to go searching (its day time).

The lady on the phone said she would come in 1 hour she came in 2. 30.

When I opened the door I tried for 10 min to understand if she was the one in the pic. I finaly made my conclusion: She sure was. So my congratulations to the photographer and the photoshop guys.

First of all her teeth were brown.

She lacked beauty.

When she took her clothes off she had a nasty big scar in her bacside 30cm so her ass did not look like an ass anymore.

Her tits were nice but she looked like a picasso painting.

And the worse. Leg hair 2 cm long. Wow.

She took a shower But seems she didn't wash her privats. And it seems she hadnt washed her privats for longer than she HAD shaved her legs. Ooooohhhh that smell. I had a moment of hesitation. And "SORRY MY PHONE RANG AND ITS MY BOSS". I HAVE TO GO. (I called myself from another phone). 200 rmb for taxi and free. I could pay 2000 to get rid of her.

LESSON LEARNED: Go to the bars and find something nice. Go to saunas and choose. Wow now thats outta the box thinking there LOL good idea: D. I've found myself in similar situations first time mongering my little head did the talking the rest of the times just sent them away.

Frank_OS
11-27-07, 08:37
Only in Shanghai for some days I went to the waves last week. I had a very good experience in a double with 918 + 919 (if I can remember correct). They are friends and work together very good. One of them with tuned tits, but you don't feel the silicon and have a good hand full.

Started with the licking everywhere with hot and cold part, than blow job from the red ropes by one of them and some short kisses with the other one. It's an amazing view if someone is hanging down from the ropes and sucking you.

After that one was riding me and the other put some of teeth into her pussy. It's difficult to feel if they went wet but it sounded like they were having fun, at least the one who was sitting on my dick. After comming some rest, massage and I was forced by them to fuck the other girl. O. K. What a wish. Did it with her in different positions and the other girl licked her tits. Took about 15-20 minutes with very good action and than came on there tits.

A nice experience, but in China mostly it is a little mechanical to me, the girls do everthing you want like a programm. But still I had very good GFE, too.

My personal experience is you get the best sex in Germany (where I usualy live) if you know the good adresses or are lucky with your choice in one of the FKK's.

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Aisin Gioro
11-27-07, 11:39
Gents,

Late for Rex69, but:

Crowne Plaza location: Panyu Lu / Fahuazhen Lu, behind/together with the Cinema City.

... and SH Hotel is not that fun anyway.


Rex,

Central Hotel is not far from Shanghai Hotel, however, I would take a taxi (no queues for taxis unless is raining like hell).

You could walk but then after about 30 minutes, you wn't have energies for the girl.

Sorry, but now I don't remember where Crpwne Plaza is located.

Ringer5
11-27-07, 12:04
'Nightwing here reporting once again on another find in Pudong. Yet again, it is another 24-hour operation, so you can go at any time of the day and night for service. The place is called the "Ji Hua Bath Chamber", located on Jinhai Road in the Jin Qiao district. For those of you living at the Ramada, it's an 11 RMB taxi ride away. From the Ramada, tell the cab to go to Central Yang Gao Road (杨高中路),then go to Jinhai Lu (金海路 ). The bath house is located at number 18, just past Yang Gao Lu on the right hand side.

(snip)

I had number 635, a cute 26-yo. Shanghainese girl. Very proportionately built, and nice perfume too! /"

I had a look in this place a couple of months ago, but was deterred by the strong smell of chlorine in the lobby - that's not the perfume you refer to on Miss 635, is it??
I also had a look at the sauna at the new Best Western Sunshine hotel, a little further west on Yang Gao Lu this evening. They were a bit cagey about what the 700RMB package entails, although the girl assured me it was "very comfortable", which often seems to be a euphemism for good things happening - does anyone have any experience of this place, or do I have to go back and do another piece of reluctant research to confirm Pudong as the thinking-monger's destination of choice?

Esvees
11-27-07, 16:44
Decided to finally try it out to see if it's any better than other places.

Went around 4 pm or so. Nice jacuzzi / shower area, but even at this time of day it seems crowded. On the upside, if you don't speak Chinese, there are lots ond lots of foreigners who pass through here (saw at least two)

The lineup I got was ok (more on that later), picked a pretty girl called mao mao with a really nice rack. Was pretty happy with it 'till we got to the actual massage room.

I like the mirrors on the walls & ceiling, but the bed is. Well, it's not even a bed. It's barely wide enough for one person to lie on and it's right in the middle of the room. Plus the cushion flew off in no time. I dunno how you could possibly do anything but the gentlest guy on top / missionary position on these. Ended up doing it standing out of sheer frustration (hey, standing is not a bad thing sometimes) The room itself is kind of pokey too.

Service from Mao mao was fine & she seemed to be enjoying herself. She was nice & chatty afterwards too. They get so much foreigner traffic in here though that I doubt you could get any of these girls as a freebie afterwards. (popular places seem to attract more & maybe prettier girls, but they see a lot more action, which I think has a lot of downsides too)

Cost came to 650 RMB as reported earlier. On the way out I was thinking, 'kay, tried it now, somewhere else next time, 'till I spotted what was possibly the prettiest girl I've ever seen in one of these places; like really, she could have been a model. (how I wished I'd dropped in a bit later and had picked her. Sigh)

Overall, I've had equal service with a better environment elsewhere. Maybe there are still prettier girls in the Shanghai hotel than some of the other places, but that seems to be down to luck more than anything. Costs me 500 RMB at the place on my street corner which sees far less traffic, has better beds & so far the girls have been pretty good. (lot of 7's & 8's, an occasional 9) Still looking for the perfect place.

Nightwing88
11-28-07, 00:40
I had a look in this place a couple of months ago, but was deterred by the strong smell of chlorine in the lobby - that's not the perfume you refer to on Miss 635, is it??
I also had a look at the sauna at the new Best Western Sunshine hotel, a little further west on Yang Gao Lu this evening. They were a bit cagey about what the 700RMB package entails, although the girl assured me it was "very comfortable", which often seems to be a euphemism for good things happening - does anyone have any experience of this place, or do I have to go back and do another piece of reluctant research to confirm Pudong as the thinking-monger's destination of choice?

Hi. I didn't smell any chlorine in the main lobby at all. Of course the perfume was the smell on the girl!

I think you'll have to try out the sauna. I have also wondered if there was a sauna inside the Best Western as well. My bet is that any establishment out in Jinqiao with a Sauna sign will also offer extra services.

While chatting with 635 after the deed, I found that there is another sauna nearby Jihua as well, on Jingao Lu. It's about a block and a half east of Jihua. I googled it and found the following address in Chinese:

阔海大浴场 Kuo Hai Bath House
浦东新区金高路2216号 No. 2216, Jin Gao Road, Pudong

The website (all in Chinese) is the following:
http://www.alapudong.com/mall/default.aspx?bid=4&sid=458

R5, enjoy your investigation! Part of the fun in this hobby is the discovery process!

Nightwing

Rex69
11-28-07, 01:59
I could pay 2000 to get rid of her.

LESSON LEARNED: Go to the bars and find something nice. Go to saunas and choose....Ouch!! But thanks for the lesson.

Rex69
11-28-07, 02:06
Gents,

Late for Rex69, but:

Crowne Plaza location: Panyu Lu / Fahuazhen Lu, behind/together with the Cinema City.

... and SH Hotel is not that fun anyway.I might be able to cancel my Shanghai Hotel reservation. More info please.

1. How many miles is Crowne Plaza from the Shanghai Hotel? Walkable?
THis is my first visit to Shanghai, so the street corners you name isn't useful for me... sorry.

2. What do you mean SH hotel is not that fun anyway? I thought it's one of the better fun place in Shanghai.

WinteRain
11-28-07, 04:37
Overall, I've had equal service with a better environment elsewhere. Maybe there are still prettier girls in the Shanghai hotel than some of the other places, but that seems to be down to luck more than anything. Costs me 500 RMB at the place on my street corner which sees far less traffic, has better beds & so far the girls have been pretty good. (lot of 7's & 8's, an occasional 9) Still looking for the perfect place.Which corner, which street? :P

You're right about it being more difficult to score a relationship with sh hotel girls... I'm still trying to woo my supermodel girl from there, but damn she's a cold queen, yet she doesn't ignore me totally. Grrr.

Carnesseur
11-28-07, 06:44
I may agree that average (as per Zhuren definition) Chinese girls are not much into oral, but into "giving oral" only in my experience.

Normally all Chinese freebies I drive to bed like DATY very much, even though I don't do exactly as explained in the DATY guide another member posted.
When they don't finish with orgasm, as I am tired and I would like some pleasure myself, many of them require/insist I continue as they enjoy a lot.While I can 't report on my experiences with "good" Chinese girls or freebies, I can tell you that the KTV girl that I have been seeing for over a year now is an oral fanatic. She wants me to "suck pussy" all night. She has this way of constantly asking me if I'm tired while I'm gettin' busy. It's quite funny really. She obviously likes it. I couldn't care one way or the other. She says I am the only one she lets do this (er...not sure about that one). Says Chinese men NEVER DATY.

She also is having an affair with my penis ("who" she calls ChaLi). She will spend hours a day licking, kissing, and sucking my dick. Just out of the blue she will pull it out of my pants while we are talking. I'm all for this of course. But it does make me a little jealous some times. :-) I never ask for it. Since I first met her, she has loved to suck dick. One weird thing. She does not swallow her saliva as she is sucking, so it ends up making a mess on me, and she then spits onto a towel or the comforter or the floor. She can't explain why she won't just swallow her saliva, but it probably has something to do with hygiene issues. Also says she never does this with any other man (again...most likely a lie). Says Chinese men NEVER ask for blowjob from her.

So if I'm to believe her, oral is not commonly practiced in China. It's more of a Western thing. But the girls who have experienced it are really into it.

Carnesseur
11-28-07, 07:16
Her tits were nice but she looked like a picasso painting.
Guernica? Now that's funny.

Guybert56
11-28-07, 08:21
Two quick reports. First, a week back, I returned to the sauna on Pudong Lu behind Nextage, 5th floor directly in front of the Ramen noodle chain in the alley behind Xinmei tower. Got there just after noon and asked specifically for #379 as she was a great find from last time. I gotta say, she was still FINE! Interesting session. Didn't even try to do the cat bath, etc! Just was ready for me to pleasure her for a long time. She REALLY gets into DATY and some DFK. In any case, she then used my didi like a vibrator on her clit for 10 minutes of grinding for her. Not too shabby for me, then went to work on me BBBJTC! Never tried or cared that we didn't do the deed as we were both completely spent at the end of the 70 minute session. LOTS of hugging and holding and kissing and cuddling. She was wonderful! 8+ face and body (petite A) 10+ performer and attitude! 550 for the afternoon special!

Then this week, I returned to B2 of World Plaza at about 230PM, also on Pudong Lu very close to the Dongchang Subway stop (exit 3) and asked specifically for #19. I think I could be tempted to keep her! I have never in my life seen such a great attitude and such a cuty! I give her a 9 with a 9 body as well. B+ or maybe even a real C! She was all giggles and smiles leading me to our room. A rather dingy place but the set up is really good with a Roman style couch on one wall. In any case, she was dressed in the cutest red Chinese lingerie top that ties behind the neck and white silk PJ bottoms. She really has a nice rack! She began (since we knew each other from before)with a long intense necking/DFK/petting session before she went for her bag! Oh how I was worked up before we even made the phone call! She also remembered my appreciation for her perfect Pxxs and went to work on some 69 so I could enjoy it a lot! Her tingle button was already getting big and happy before I got comfortable DATY. She didn't do any of the load moaning but actually buried her face in a pillow as she let herself go several times. I did some g-spot massage on her and I thought she was going to break my finger! Man did we have a great session, then the deed got started! She was very tight and was still contracting when I got in a side by side mish for my turn. She almost immediately had another and I was soon behind her. She kept me firmly clamped in position as her contractions kept massaging me. She was in NO hurry and did not even look at the clock! She started to chat some and gave me her phone number. She speaks almost no English and I hope only to use the number to find out if she is available when I next get into town. Again, this place is a little shabby as for accommodations, but the staff are helpful, the girls are well above what I saw at my one time at the famous SH Hotel. I would also say their attitude is WAY ahead of that place. #19 is a keeper and this judge gives her a 10+! 550 for a great afternnon delight.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

World Guy Sh
11-28-07, 13:00
I might be able to cancel my Shanghai Hotel reservation. More info please.

1. How many miles is Crowne Plaza from the Shanghai Hotel? Walkable?
THis is my first visit to Shanghai, so the street corners you name isn't useful for me... sorry.

2. What do you mean SH hotel is not that fun anyway? I thought it's one of the better fun place in Shanghai.1. About 1 mile / 2 km. In Rush hour, 20 mins in a taxi. at other times, no more than the flag fall rate of 11RMB

2. I think Fun should be 'Far'.

Vompat
11-28-07, 14:42
I might be able to cancel my Shanghai Hotel reservation. More info please.

1. How many miles is Crowne Plaza from the Shanghai Hotel? Walkable?
THis is my first visit to Shanghai, so the street corners you name isn't useful for me... sorry.

2. What do you mean SH hotel is not that fun anyway? I thought it's one of the better fun place in Shanghai.I would like to also know why is SH hotel not that fun. After RTTF a lot I had an impression it is the best place in Shanghai.

Jaenla
11-28-07, 17:48
Hi guys,

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He is a good guy who's willing to negotiate for you.

Also if you take him out for a night and buy him some drinks and playing some pool with him, he's willing to show you the best place's.

If you need a tourist tour, also he will show you what's around.

I've promised to put his telephone number on the net so here we go.

Have fun

+86 13916501431

Aisin Gioro
11-29-07, 02:19
1. About 1 mile / 2 km. In Rush hour, 20 mins in a taxi. at other times, no more than the flag fall rate of 11RMB

2. I think Fun should be 'Far'.Actually, there's a "sauna" right in front of it, on Fahuazhen Lu, pretty conspicuous and visible with the neons and a couple of guys in black always sitting outside... Common price (600-700 RMB, cant remember).

It's funny though because the first time I went to the SH Hotel I ended up there after checking some consultations with the door guys. They were kind of surprised/amazed that a foreigner was communicating with them and chatting openly in front of the door. Weird for such a location were they must get lots of foreigners everyday, but most likely they just don't speak the language and look "resident" (not that I'm Asian, I was just wearing my Sunday uniform: trainers, messed up hair and sunglasses, no shave... and they sure knew my face as I walked in front of the place everyday).

The point is that it was barely 1pm, so apprently few girls had made it yet to work and actually they were not even working yet and I was in an urge, so I took a cabby and hit the SH Hotel.

I must say after one first disappointing experience, I still gave it two more tries in the subsequent weeks, for the forum's sake (I know usually it's more about bad luck than anything). But basically it was always the same. Call me picky, but the common bath area sucks, then the girls are basically lots of make up, hips of plastic and the whole "Venues that Suck 2007" catalogue of "this, don't; this other, can't; that, just won't"'s that one has to go through in such famous places.

I also disagree about the looks of the girls there. I don't think they are specially hot at the SH Hotel if you compare to any similar priced places and even if you are into make up, fake tits and bad attitude, starting for the messy, steamy enviroment in the public areas, plus the mechanical "accueil" service, plus the too pro for my taste in-room service. Evenmore, but that's personal taste, I definitely prefer the looks of many BBS girls, more natural and not necessarily old and wasted (go to the Village, if it's still there, it's been months).

For saunas, try for instance Jin Yuan Sauna at Jiaozhou Lu with Changping Lu. You'll get the make up and some of the fakes, but none of the shitty working environment. Their oily playing mats are much better, although the rooms are less fancy. And they definitely see less foreigners. Some up to date report on that place will be welcome to (I'd do it myself, but during the last months I have been under strict GF surveillance).

Don't worry that much about the cabby fares. Even if you take a taxi from a downtown location to really far places like the Village (at night) it won't go beyond 40 RMB. It's peanuts. During the day time, you better plan, not just to avoid wasting money, especially to avoid spoiling your mood trapped in a Shanghai Taxi somewhere along Yan An Lu seeing your erection go to waste, etc. etc.

Aisin Gioro
11-29-07, 02:55
Alright, gents

I have a BBS area spotted awaiting for some serious scouting. I've been RTFFing and didn't or couldn't find any reference to it, so it may be a new source of fun.

I've done all the preliminaries: check the location, count girls, check girls, check prices, but I haven't culminated the report. Too risky for me for several reasons.

The target is a series of four BBS along Kaixuan Lu 凯旋路 between the Hongqiao Lu metro station ( lines 3 and 4 ) and the crossing with Anshun Lu 安顺路

In total, some 20 girls at night, starting as soon as it gets dark ( indeed, these days you can see them already at 5 pm )

Prices are just like anywhere within the so called downtown area for BBS. They range from an ultrageous 120 RMB to a ridiculous 250. All prices are for in-venue service. Since I never had the intention to actually stay, those prices are the first offer, before negotiating.

Actually there are more BBS in the area ( the more local the area is, the more... local it is ), but I've only checked those. KTV with neons in Korean and several other "japanese" bars and restaurants are available too. The area is quite lively everynight, mostly locals and Taiwanese, occasional Koreans and not a few Japanese, despite of its rather darkish look after sunset, which must be a sign of quality.

There is also a quite interesting "inner Mongolian" restaurant, a couple of Sichuan-Shanghai places, and a yakitori restaurant, all worth going. All within the "relatively cheap but tasty" range, of course. No doormen and champaign. Farther up heading to Yan An Lu there is an expensive Japanese restaurant for the deeper pockets.

I also just remembered that already near the Yan An Lu station ( lines 3 and 4 ) there is also a very expensive Thai Spa that should be checked asap by someone. I'm pretty sure we hit jackpot there for those who are into the sauna thing, plus the spa looks gorgeous. I'll try to get more details ( address, prices, etc. at least of the legit spa area ) this evening.

Keep it up,

Aisin Gioro 愛新覺羅

Andre3000
11-29-07, 03:08
Guys,

I'm planning a trip to Shanghai and I have been studying this section for over a month now; I swear it's confusing me like hell! From what I understand so far, there are several options for a guy like me (picky, not necessarily a hardcore mongerer, loves the model type and would go for the easy massage places..) :

1- Shanghai Hotel (downside: will have to walk around with my naked fellows dealing with the guys who will try to give us scrub etc. before getting into the real thing - upside: high standards)

2- The place next to the Nextage Mall

3- World Plaza B2

4- Buo Duo (upside: directly going into the changing rooms. 2 massage sections in the rooms - dry&wet)

So please someone, have I got the basics right? Which one shall I choose for an easy visit?

And I have one more question: Do you have any hotel/neighborhood recommendation for me? I usually like the trendy areas - near a good shopping mall or an upscale shoopping street - not necessarily in the center of the crowds. Pudong (Shangri-La) or Bund (Westin)? Do you think Xintiandi (I have no idea where this neighborhood is..) might be a good idea?

I'll appreciate if you give me your personal thoughts for my first visit.

Thanks,
Andre

WinteRain
11-29-07, 04:22
Guys,

1- Shanghai Hotel (downside: will have to walk around with my naked fellows dealing with the guys who will try to give us scrub etc. before getting into the real thing - upside: high standards)Walking around nekkid in a 'bath hall' is the basic setting for all saunas. : P the srubbing guys aren't really problem, just say no 2 times and they go away.

The true downside of sh hotel is, service is only 60 minutes. My biggest complaint about the place.

Andre3000
11-29-07, 13:21
Walking around nekkid in a 'bath hall' is the basic setting for all saunas. : P the srubbing guys aren't really problem, just say no 2 times and they go away.

The true downside of sh hotel is, service is only 60 minutes. My biggest complaint about the place.

Have you ever been to Buo Duo? How would you compare the 2 places?

Thanks,
A.A

China Miguel
11-29-07, 13:29
Nana is now a freebie for me.

I also have freebies in Guangzhou, Dongguan, Shenzhen and Guilin.

Sorry, I won't post here anymore.

Living the happy life,

China Miguel

GlenEagle
11-29-07, 14:20
I would like to also know why is SH hotel not that fun. After RTTF a lot I had an impression it is the best place in Shanghai.

I believe there is a grammar error, it should be not that far.

GlenEagle

WinteRain
11-29-07, 15:45
Have you ever been to Buo Duo? How would you compare the 2 places?

Thanks,

A.AYes I've been to both. Shanghai Hotel is all about girls looking very good and giving from average to porn star experiences.

Bo Duo has a more varied line up of girls, from fugly to an 8 or 9 .... The one time I been there I wasn't impressed, and at that time I haven't been to Sh hotel yet. BUT the 90 minutes of service was very good, and not just for me but my 2 other mates who went with me.

Do a search on Buo Duo in here, you should find my report some months back.

Ace Gallant
11-29-07, 17:20
Alright, gents

I have a BBS area spotted awaiting for some serious scouting. I've been RTFFing and didn't or couldn't find any reference to it, so it may be a new source of fun.

I've done all the preliminaries: check the location, count girls, check girls, check prices, but I haven't culminated the report. Too risky for me for several reasons.

The target is a series of four BBS along Kaixuan Lu 凯旋路 between the Hongqiao Lu metro station ( lines 3 and 4 ) and the crossing with Anshun Lu 安顺路

In total, some 20 girls at night, starting as soon as it gets dark ( indeed, these days you can see them already at 5 pm )

Prices are just like anywhere within the so called downtown area for BBS. They range from an ultrageous 120 RMB to a ridiculous 250. All prices are for in-venue service. Since I never had the intention to actually stay, those prices are the first offer, before negotiating.

Actually there are more BBS in the area ( the more local the area is, the more... local it is ), but I've only checked those. KTV with neons in Korean and several other "japanese" bars and restaurants are available too. The area is quite lively everynight, mostly locals and Taiwanese, occasional Koreans and not a few Japanese, despite of its rather darkish look after sunset, which must be a sign of quality.

There is also a quite interesting "inner Mongolian" restaurant, a couple of Sichuan-Shanghai places, and a yakitori restaurant, all worth going. All within the "relatively cheap but tasty" range, of course. No doormen and champaign. Farther up heading to Yan An Lu there is an expensive Japanese restaurant for the deeper pockets.

I also just remembered that already near the Yan An Lu station ( lines 3 and 4 ) there is also a very expensive Thai Spa that should be checked asap by someone. I'm pretty sure we hit jackpot there for those who are into the sauna thing, plus the spa looks gorgeous. I'll try to get more details ( address, prices, etc. at least of the legit spa area ) this evening.

Keep it up,

Aisin Gioro 愛新覺羅No Flaming intended.

Are you calling for Volunteer to go scouting with you or are you calling for volunteer to scout out those places and report back to the board or are you calling for volunteer to verify on what you had found?

Enjoy!

AG

Guybert56
11-30-07, 03:21
Had such a great experience with #19, Song Lin, at B2 in World Plaza, on Pudong Lu, that I wanted to go back before leaving SH for a while. Got to the Plaza about 230pm and asked for her. Had the usual shower in the modest shower room and was directed to the waiting area for a drink. After a bit, #19 appeared at the door all giggles and sighs. She was surprised to see me as I had told her I was out of town until the following week. Anyway, we went to the room and she turned around and proceeded to DFK me until I thought I was going to explode! Man, what a skillfull kisser who really enoys giving and getting. Not rushed at all! I felt like I was on my best date ever. Anyway, after 10 minutes of some excellent making out, and by this time, her little silk Chinese top was on the chair, there was a knock on the door reminding her to call! She had entirely forgotten to check in! She had to call and then go out for her bag of stuff. When she returned, she laid down beside me on the couch and restarted the making out session. Soon we were both naked and she was moving around for some 69 and she knows how to do that as well as DFK! She has a silky smooth nether region with just enough turf to be cute. Her tingle button was standing proud and she was close to coming very quickly. Capped and moved to several variations of cowboy with her in complete control of the pace and depth. No complaints about size, etc. Just raw sexuality! She is the most amazing lover I have ever seen. PSE! But not trashy. More like making love than anything I have ever experienced before. She had one gentle O and brought me to mine. Then after we cleaned up, she lay there in my arms and moved my hand down to pleasure her some more. I don't think I am exagerating when I say she must have cum at least 4 times. I could always tell from her follow up reaction, which I have seen in other Chinese women. She would cover her face as if she was ashamed. Kind of funny in a way. I finger fxxked her a long time and when I tried to take out my finger, thinking the time was about over, she held my hand in place. She was not ready to stop! After some more O's for her, I decided she needed to be taken to the top so I kept my finger moving and I did some DATY and she completely lost it. She was thrashing around and moaning really low and intensely and rolled her pretty eyes up in her head and nearly passed out. Then when she was spent, we cuddled and held each other for a while. When I looked at the time, it was already over 90 minutes! I couldn't believe they hadn't sent in someone to check up on us. In any case, we got cleaned up again and dressed and still she held me. When she wrote up the 'ticket' she only wrote up one hour! I just wish she could speak more English or I could speak more Chinese. She is awesome! Again, she is extremely cute! I would call her a 9 with a 9 body (nice soft uniform unenhanced see cup with great sensitive nips). She has a beautiful smile and seems to enjoy what she does. 550 for 90 minutes of exstacy! She sent me a text message about an hour latter that said 'Thank you! '. Nice touch!

Aisin Gioro
11-30-07, 08:46
No Flaming intended.

Are you calling for Volunteer to go scouting with you or are you calling for volunteer to scout out those places and report back to the board or are you calling for volunteer to verify on what you had found?

Enjoy!

AGYeah, those two posts were kind of difficult to read, I reckon. They were full of mispellings and other aberrations. I noticed later after sending them and felt quite ashamed of myself. I guess that my English ( and my savoir-faire ) is getting shittier and shittier after too long time in China.

My current circumstances ( living with a hawkish GF - don't get me wrong, it's got its goods and its bads, blah blah what else ) don't allow me to indulge myself as I used to. But I still read the forum now and then. Just to stay up to date, you know, and seize the chance when I have one ( soon next week ). I thought in exchange for the piece of advice I got somewhere else in another thread it'd be good to try to add some new, different info here, among all that sauna and Shanghai Hotel reporting. That has always been my policy.

Unfortunately, I can't go beyond the door into the pink warm inside of the BBS, especially not around that area I reported. So that's all I could offer this time.

So I was asking for volunteers to verify my info and complete the reports: actual prices ( after negotiation ), service, facilities, etc. And a second, educated, opinion is always necessary. I would only add that it's just a local-flavoured area, not something for those who don't eat Chinese or can't read the menu, but maybe good for the one seeking a Shanghainese experience in a relatively central location.

By the way, checked the Thai Spa on Kaixuan Lu I mentioned, as I said. It's called "Spa de Regent". I just went in to the entrance lobby and asked for the menu, to which they responded handing over a flyer.

They didn't understand me when I spoke Mandarin ( hey ), so I tried another language, but now I can't remember if it was English, Japanese or what. What I mean is that those who can't speak the language have at least one more option (yes, I know what you are thinking. Don't blame me, I was tired and went all the way up there just to check!)

Seeing their prices, and the classy lobby area, they must offer especial services. I guess the Spa is not off-limits for me, so maybe ( just maybe ) I check this weekend, but I will have to behave and keep all the fishy questions for myself. So it'd be nice to get one volunteer to report about this place too. The kind of guy who enjoys real massage or serious spa treatment and all that stuff anyway, even if there's no happy ending. I have seen a few courses on their menu going above 1000 RMB up to 1400 something. Most are in the 300-600 range, some are cheaper. They have 4-hand massages too.

Spa de Regent:

Kaixuan Lu, 1068 Nong, Hualian Fazhan Dasha Qunlou 凱旋路 1068號 华联发展大厦裙楼

The Thai temple-like entrance is quite conspicuous.

They have a website, but both the English and Japanese version don't work, so it's for Mandarin-readers only ( by the way, those who use Firefox can get the "Chinese Perakun" extension to help you with that ). http://www.spaderegent.com

AG,

I'm afraid it's not me who's going to enjoy it this time!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Guybert56
11-30-07, 09:37
A quick report with NO personal experience. I was out walking this afternoon and ran upon a swarm of BBS/MP places. Summary:

Pudong Lu between Zhangyang Lu and Weifang Lu on the west side: 4. Three will knock the window at round eyes and one does not.

Weifang Xi Lu between Pudong and Dongfeng Lu: about 5 on the right side and two 'spas' on the left. Also one spa on the right right across from Courtyard.

Then, the hot spot! Going south on Dongfeng Lu (The main street where Courtyard is situated) past a nice river walk park, turn right on Eshan. There are about 4 on the left side and at least 4 on the right side, all agressive and some pretty nice to look at faces. Again. No experience. That is just the area between Dongfeng and Nanquan Lu! If you cross Nanquan, there are at least six more on the left and two on the right side. Again, all agressive and most nice to look at. There are some more on Nanquan heading north near the stream as well.

As reported earlier, there are about 4 MP/Spas on Laoshan between Weifenf Lu and Pudian and several BBS on Nanquan between Zhangyang Lu and Pudian.

I prefer saunas so I steer clear but would appreciate input on any of these.

Fritobugger
12-01-07, 01:44
Guybert56,

She is an angel. You got it right. I could barely walk the last time she finished with me. I am thrilled that this forum has helped me to find both this spa and superstar #19.

Thanks!

Ace Gallant
12-01-07, 02:04
Yeah, those two posts were kind of difficult to read, I reckon. They were full of mispellings and other aberrations. I noticed later after sending them and felt quite ashamed of myself. I guess that my English ( and my savoir-faire ) is getting shittier and shittier after too long time in China.

Unfortunately, I can't go beyond the door into the pink warm inside of the BBS, especially not around that area I reported. So that's all I could offer this time.
So I was asking for volunteers to verify my info and complete the reports: actual prices ( after negotiation ), service, facilities, etc. And a second, educated, opinion is always necessary. I would only add that it's just a local-flavoured area, not something for those who don't eat Chinese or can't read the menu, but maybe good for the one seeking a Shanghainese experience in a relatively central location.
By the way, checked the Thai Spa on Kaixuan Lu I mentioned, as I said. It's called "Spa de Regent". I just went in to the entrance lobby and asked for the menu, to which they responded handing over a flyer.

They didn't understand me when I spoke Mandarin ( hey ), so I tried another language, but now I can't remember if it was English, Japanese or what. What I mean is that those who can't speak the language have at least one more option (yes, I know what you are thinking. Don't blame me, I was tired and went all the way up there just to check!)

Seeing their prices, and the classy lobby area, they must offer especial services. I guess the Spa is not off-limits for me, so maybe ( just maybe ) I check this weekend, but I will have to behave and keep all the fishy questions for myself. So it'd be nice to get one volunteer to report about this place too. The kind of guy who enjoys real massage or serious spa treatment and all that stuff anyway, even if there's no happy ending. I have seen a few courses on their menu going above 1000 RMB up to 1400 something. Most are in the 300-600 range, some are cheaper. They have 4-hand massages too.

Spa de Regent:

Kaixuan Lu, 1068 Nong, Hualian Fazhan Dasha Qunlou 凱旋路 1068號 华联发展大厦裙楼
The Thai temple-like entrance is quite conspicuous.
They have a website, but both the English and Japanese version don't work, so it's for Mandarin-readers only ( by the way, those who use Firefox can get the "Chinese Perakun" extension to help you with that ). http://www.spaderegent.comNah. Nobody is expected to have perfect English if they want to post on this board. There are many members who's mother's tongue is not English but yet they are posting great informational reports. It sure beats those Serial Antagonists who is constantly posting flaming posts about how bad is some of the members English but offer no information on the subject of mongering at all. We did not come here to learn English, we are all here to share information about good places for our "hunt".

As for your information of those places, perhaps we (The Shanghai Gang) will check them out and report back later.

Spa de Regent:

Based on what I know from a member who had checked them out not too long ago (Yah. He’s a lurker who doesn’t post). That place has a good massage and that’s about it. He tried to ask for something beyond that, they told him they do not offer those. Maybe you may get a different service that he is not able too? That member is an ABC who spoke perfect Shanghainese language. (maybe that’s why? ). They afraid he is a cop?

Let us know what you found and report back later?

Enjoy!

AG

BTW: I’ve realised that you have the same initials as our handle?

Et888
12-01-07, 04:06
Came away with an e mail address, go figure! New one on me.

Scores on the doors:

Looks:6-7 (YMMV)
BBBJ: 8-9
FS:7-8
Attitude:8
Speaks English
Age: 24 from Shanghai
Number 57
750RMB - 1 Hour

Am attaching the card for the SH for anyone who doesn't know it . . . And for those new to Shanghai, this is probably the only building in Shanghai where floor 1 in the lift is one level above ground . . . . (usually ground floor). If you go to the Chinese '2nd floor' you'll think the place is shut.

BTW - saw a couple of western guys in there - one finishing up, one (younger) sat shaving rady to go. Any of you guys from on here? Be great to hear your girl reports as well.

WGS[/QUOTE]Can try no.55.

Geat service.

Ohio29
12-01-07, 07:47
Firstly thanks to all those guys who offered their tips on the action in Shanghai. Here is a concise report of my experience in Shanghai this week.

I arrived on Sunday evening and immediately went out for dinner with a whole lot of colleagues and we proceeded to get pretty drunk so by the time I got back to the hotel my beer goggles were firmly in place. Did not plan on getting any action in the night but my colleague and I just decided to take a walk in this area at the back of our hotel which was a replica of times square in NYC but much better. While we were walking a bunch of pimps approached us offering women along with a bunch of counterfeit goods. Just as we were going back to the hotel this really attractive girl approached us and asked if we needed girls. We started talking to her and initially I tried to convince her to come along but she said that she is only the ‘boss’. She initially asked for CNY 900 for a girl but after bargaining we brought her down to CNY 500 + 100 tip if the service was good. We got into a cab with her and she took us on a 5 min ride where on this one street corner she had some girls standing. My friend and I chose one each and took them back to the hotel with us. I was expecting some problems at the Meridien but fortunately there was none although the walk of shame is a pretty long one. As it turned out the service was extremely crappy and she even refused to give a BJ. She was pretty decent looking and also had a good rack but overall service was pretty crappy so I told her to bugger off immediately after I was finished because by this time I was pretty tired also. Hence, my first experience was pretty disappointing.

On the second night me and around 5 of my colleagues went to this place called Tang’s Hot tubs which I think is one of the best kept secrets of Shanghai but you need to have local knowledge to get to this place. It is a really classy joint and I guess very similar to all the sauna places that have been reported on the forum. The whole place is very organized with people directing you through all the right places and after the shower and other knick knacks we were eventually led to a window where there were more than a dozen girls standing to be chosen. We all made our picks and went to our rooms. I was really not sure on what kind of service to be expecting but what followed was an excellent experience. The girl was really beautiful with an excellent rack for a Chinese girl and the only negative part was that she could not speak any English but our bodies managed to do all the necessary talking that was required. The full menu was offered with BBBJ and FS followed by an excellent massage and then another round of FS. And all in about one hour. This was by far one of the best experiences I had ever had and in a very secure and comfortable environment and the total cost was just CNY 700. Every single one of my friends that were with us all had nothing but a great experience to share with everyone. I went back to this place once more before leaving and had another great experience with another different girl who was also absolutely gorgeous and this time I was only charged CNY 600. Another crazy things these girls do is that there is this sort of steel rack on top of the bed and they hang themselves upside down and give you a BJ which is the most unique and different experience that one will have anywhere in the world. The second time I had some more time to spare so I spent some time relaxing in the hot tubs also which was good fun.

Overall my experience of Shanghai was that there is tons of sex being offered but it is the quality which is difficult to find. Even during the exhibition that I was attending touts were roaming around shoving little cards in your hand of women offering all sorts of services. The problem with this kind of free lance service is that usually one never knows what sort of service is being offered and there have also been some experiences of people getting caught up in all sorts of scams by these women. I think the sauna/hot tub places are the best option in Shanghai and with some local knowledge one can find some of more the less known places which are cheaper and better.

Ciao,
Ohio29

Sasparx
12-01-07, 10:03
Dear All,

After bringing you the Zhongtian / Maxdo find. Here's another new one

Check out the New Town Club for a quickie. It's near the Sheraton & Renaissance Hotels. Stand with your back to the Sheraton, go left to the next junction. Turn left again & it's 70m down the road on the right hand side.

There is massage, sauna, nail bar, restaurant, hairdressers etc within the complex. It isn't very big. In fact it is quite compact & bijou!

Ask for the oil massage (238RMB) which by itself isn't at all bad. You will be offered the up-sell half way through. The upsell (300RMB) includes AR, DFK, GFE, Cat Bath, HJ, CBJ & CFS. There doesn't seem to be any time limit either.

I wasn't offered a choice of girl though I'm sure that I could have had a choice. I was also given shower facilities.

The girl was very skilled at all of the things she did. She was not very young either. She made up for it by being EXTREMELY eager to please, very attentive and very happy.

I have also been offered a home visit which is rather good!

I will go there again because it is very handy for me, clean, un-rushed and relaxed.

Don't expect the full sauna experience. But it is certainly not a BBS.

Best regards

Sasparx

John Word
12-01-07, 19:51
I must share this experience with you all: On advice from local friend, I went to Dragonfly on 84 Nanchang Road in Puxi (中 国 上海 南昌路84号)... and ask for MANDY. Dragonfly does not provide any FS but Mandy works for herself, no mama san, cheap price and she enjoys it.

She is around 30, great smile, tall (about 1m70) and skinny... and she loves sex.

I had massage at Dragonfly and then ask for sex. She said she can not "bu ke yi" at this place but can go to her place just after the massage.

She has a place 5 minutes away, all possible tools and only ask for 200rmb per hour. Then you tip according to service (I tiped 200rmb due to excellent service). She does take it all, great FX, anal, and enjoys facial.

This girl is amazing. Chinese are amazing to get money. She is also a great kisser... looks like the perfect girlfriend.

I will go again next week... she is like a drug, my best experience ever.

Ringer5
12-02-07, 02:17
"On the second night me and around 5 of my colleagues went to this place called Tang’s Hot tubs which I think is one of the best kept secrets of Shanghai but you need to have local knowledge to get to this place/"

And some time soon you're planning to give us the benefit of that local knowledge?

Ebauche
12-02-07, 04:39
I'll be arriving in Shanghai 12/8/07. Will have some time to myself 12/8-12/10. Otherwise occupied from through the week, then free again evening of 12/14 & 12/15.

Anyone up for some fun?

I am a Senior member with a worldwide posting history (International & USA boards). Not a great deal of posts, but I like to think what I contribute is generally worthwhile. Have enjoyed following China threads for quite a while.

Feel free to PM.

Bad Boy Billy
12-02-07, 06:03
I must share this experience with you all: On advice from local friend, I went to Dragonfly on 84 Nanchang Road in Puxi (中 国 上海 南昌路84号)... and ask for MANDY. Dragonfly does not provide any FS but Mandy works for herself, no mama san, cheap price and she enjoys it.

She is around 30, great smile, tall (about 1m70) and skinny... and she loves sex.

I had massage at Dragonfly and then ask for sex. She said she can not "bu ke yi" at this place but can go to her place just after the massage.

She has a place 5 minutes away, all possible tools and only ask for 200rmb per hour. Then you tip according to service (I tiped 200rmb due to excellent service). She does take it all, great FX, anal, and enjoys facial.

This girl is amazing. Chinese are amazing to get money. She is also a great kisser... looks like the perfect girlfriend.

I will go again next week... she is like a drug, my best experience ever.

For fucks sake - another 'self promoting' report.

Lao Ma
12-02-07, 07:36
It's also just a flat-out lie - Dragonfly is about as legitimate and high-end a spa treatment as you can find. It's world-known, is actually a global franchised company, and they just don't hire those kinds of girls.

Very classy establishment, and the clients don't go their to bust a nut, they go there for a spa/aromatherapy/pampering experience.

This John Word guy obviously has an axe to grind with this establishment.

Ace Gallant
12-02-07, 10:18
I must share this experience with you all: On advice from local friend, I went to Dragonfly on 84 Nanchang Road in Puxi (中 国 上海 南昌路84号)... and ask for MANDY. Dragonfly does not provide any FS but Mandy works for herself, no mama san, cheap price and she enjoys it.

She is around 30, great smile, tall (about 1m70) and skinny... and she loves sex.

I had massage at Dragonfly and then ask for sex. She said she can not "bu ke yi" at this place but can go to her place just after the massage.

She has a place 5 minutes away, all possible tools and only ask for 200rmb per hour. Then you tip according to service (I tiped 200rmb due to excellent service). She does take it all, great FX, anal, and enjoys facial.

This girl is amazing. Chinese are amazing to get money. She is also a great kisser... looks like the perfect girlfriend.

I will go again next week... she is like a drug, my best experience ever.Dear Miss "John",

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AG

Eaglestar
12-02-07, 12:20
I did this gal a few times about 1 1/2 years ago. Recently called me for a repeat and who am I to argue? Then I remembered why, just cannot communicate with my poor Chinese skills and her poor English skills.

She is married but husband lives in Korea.

Any senior contributing members my PM me for her AFF/CFF name. Up to you from there on. She wants someone living here in Shanghai who she can do on a semi regular basis, not into one night stands.

ES

Jerome75
12-02-07, 13:39
Hi guys,

First of all I would like to thank all the contributors of this forum: Thanks to them, I've been having good time in SH.

Living here for 4 months now, I think it is my turn to contribute and give some tips.

In a few words, I'm using AFF since 2 months and I have already scored 8 times (Especially 3 times this week end after several weeks of preparation)... Guys, if you are patient, it is not difficult to reach your goal. Here is how I proceed:
- I only target girls above 30 (I've tried with younger ones but they are expecting something different)
- I preferably target married women (Anyway I don't want to go into things with girls who really want find their "M. Right"... It would be a loss of time for both sides)
- I also send messages to girls who don't speak English (Most of them actually)
- I'm quickly very honnest about my personal situation, i.e. I let them know I'm not single and that I want a friendly/sexy relationship (Especially as I don't want to hurt someone setting wrong expectations)
- I try to prepare as much as possible the 1st dates sending "seducing" messages

A few words on the context:
- I'm not single and I never can bring any girl home
- I'm not handsome... average guy
- I'm in my 30's
- My Chinese is really really very poor

To be clear it doesn't always work (A few messages meet the objective only), but due to my situation, you can see that nothing is impossible :)

Finally, I would like to end this message sending a special dedicace to Eaglestar, the AFF master: Thank you very much Eagle, thanks to your posts many things became reality :)

Zaijian

PS: I'm also a lot in the Tongren lu "sessions", and combining them with AFF provide a wide choice.

Gonad Man
12-02-07, 17:49
A fortnight ago I took the advice of the seniors here and invested in a good old fashioned soapy. Even though I hankered for a walk on the wild side, I figured that an hour of fun with a clean, good quality girl would beat a cheap screw in a dingy little hut. Long story short, it was worth it.

I went to the Zhongtian Sauna Club in the Maxdo Building in Hongqiao, grabbed #23 a cute 19 year old called Zang Zang or Zing Zang or something like that. She appeared the cutest at the time and I'm all for young and cute. In the room, I had a chance to inspect the goods up close and found a neat little package. Not the biggest tits, I'd guess around an A or B, but her skin was great and her ass and pussy looked great.

From the get-go she was really kind and friendly. She took me for a shower and as she cleaned me up commented on my large nuts. Hey baby, I'm called Gonad for a reason. She blew me and kissed me in a way I'm not sure I've been blown before by a working girl. She had a great technique - no teeth and put it so far down I swear I felt a dumpling.

Then came the slip and slide. I love that shit. She rotated in every direction, constantly grabbing my stick (for balance I guess) and alternating between blowjob and tug. I got into it and flipped her around and started to eat her out. Obviously it was a welcome surprise because she giggled all the way through. Then she was back blowing me and it was all I could do to keep from cumming.

Then to the bed. DATY for starters. BBBJ next, followed by rubber application. I got on top of her and I laid into her completely. The great thing about it was that she was completely getting into it. Of course, maybe she's a great actor, but I don't really care either way. It was just nice to fake it and have it faked well. I must've lasted about 5 minutes when I knocked out a load. I indicated as much and she seemed a little disappointed, so I put another one on and gave it another try. Back to it, pumping hard, kissing, grabbing her hair, etc and it started coming again. Why must these girls have such tight pussies?

After, she gave me her number. I'm not gonna call it cos I can't speak Chinese and she can't speak English, so it's maybe a lost opportunity. Oh well better get those language books out.

Fast forward to today, when, after reading all the good reports of the New World Plaza Sauna, I hopped on the subway and gave it a look. After the usual showering shit, they showed me 6 girls. None of them really did it for me, but I took the one with a good body, decent looks and a sizable rack. Go to the room. No slip and slide. I should have read the forum better. I take a closer look at the girl. Her tits are nice, though a little fake, and her ass looked old. I grabbed her and pulled her closer and yes, she felt old too. Now I'm in my late twenties, I don't really dig chicks older than me. I'd put her at around 34. Her attitude didn't make up for it at all either. There was nothing wrong with it per se, but it just didn't have any chemistry. She did the thing with water in her mouth, kissing my body. It's kinda stupid to me, but I let her continue and finish the job. It went on and on until I got bored. Then she told me to assume the AR position. I'm also not really into having a girl's tongue in my ass, but I'm open minded about most things, so what the hell. She stuck it in there all right, I swore it was an inch or two, and I'm starting to feel bad for her, cos I really couldn't think of a worse job than to stick your tongue inside different dude's asses all day. I tried to wash well beforehand, but what if I didn't? As a result, I decided not to try any kissing.

After that ordeal, we got down to some 69 action, then some fucking. I think she was changing positions on a timer. 20 pumps in cowgirl, 20 reverse cowgirl, me on top, doggie. Mechanical and terrible acting. So due to all these factors, her age, rubbery skin, mechanical acting and my thoughts about her shitty mouth, I took my sweet time finishing. I probably could've used up all my 60 minutes, but I popped at 45 and got outta there.

So 650 spent today (5pm rate) compared to 880 (no coupon) at Zhongtian and I conclude that you're better off spending the extra money at the latter establishment. Young, nubile and eager does it for me any time.

Jaenla
12-02-07, 19:28
Call the driver.

Hi guys,

For everyone who needs good suggestions of (almost) free, but good looking pussy, (RMB 150-200) call Davy the Chinese english speaking taxi driver.

He is a good guy who's willing to negotiate for you.

Also if you take him out for a night and buy him some drinks and playing some pool with him, he's willing to show you the best place's.

If you need a tourist tour, also he will show you what's around.

I've promised to put his telephone number on the net so here we go.

Have fun

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John Word
12-02-07, 22:32
Dear Miss "John",

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Enjoy!

AGI don't get it. I just posted a hint. I'm not a "miss" but a guy. Of course Draon Fly don't provide this type of service. I'm not talking about the company, I'm talking about one of there employee who provides extra after work.

Well, no one has to use my hint but I just thought some would apreciate and she deserves some extra.

I guess you can go in the shop, ask to talk to her (she can some English) and ask when she "xia ban" (get out from work).

Sorry if you guys think it's fake, I don't understand why I'd do that.

JW

Levitian
12-03-07, 05:03
Went to the Pub former known as "YZ Bar" the other day. Business was quiet, really quiet. There were 4 girls, incl. the living inventory Xiao Mei. I had a session with Yi Yi, a rather mature girl from Ningbo. She did a good job, very eager to please.

She told me that business did slow down dramatically in the last months, and the girls left only stay because the boss is good to them. If not, they would have left already.

I could imagine that the place now probably is looking for some more advertizing. Have to say that I still like the place, especially its rather clean atmosphere. Still, the selection of the girls is not really great. Maybe some more business would help.

Levitian

Lao Ma
12-03-07, 10:26
Here's "the heck"

Like any online community, when a new person comes in, without any credibility, and posts a report that is hard to believe (anal, facials, kissing, gfe, etc - all for 200 rmb plus tip), the people who have been contributing here for years, and who have lived here for years, quite naturally suspect something isn't right. I've been here since 1997 and have never seen prices like that from a high end girl. And Dragonfly hires high end, trained massage people.

You didn't post a "hint". You posted a story that would be hard to believe in southern China, where prices are a lot cheaper. I've been to Dragonfly 3 times, and it's just not the kind of joint that the girls are looking to make a little cash on the side by screwing customers at. It's the place where if a customer goes in and asks a girl if she'll fool around, he will be asked to leave and not come back again. And it's a place where the customers are 75% women.

So yes, you could say I don't believe you. But if it's true, the manner in which you came to this forum, and the direct, shilly sounding words you chose are what raised the red flags. And yet you still are surprised.

Old Wreck
12-03-07, 13:39
I did this gal a few times about 1 1/2 years ago. Recently called me for a repeat and who am I to argue? Then I remembered why, just cannot communicate with my poor Chinese skills and her poor English skills.Eaglestar,

Now I am surprised to hear your self-assessment of having poor Chinese skills. And I am even more impressed at your accomplishments given that. Tell me: do you find that you need to write some characters to gain traction on the Chinese versions of Asian FF? Or do you do all of your communicating in written English? Do you use translation programs and are they effective for you on AFF or QQ? (Do you use QQ? ) Or are internet translation programs too cumbersome an cludgy-sounding? I can speak a little Mandarin and so usually can do OK in person but am stymied with characters as I know almost none.

Old Wreck