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Bonzo1
03-19-07, 01:15
Fellow ISG members

This is kind of a public service announcement. It has come to my attention that several people have been robbed (not just paid too much, but actually robbed - a friend of mine to the tune of more than $1000 USD...though he is destined to get that back via his credit card company) at Xtasea, a well known bar on Tong Ren Lu. Last night I also learned (from very reliable sources, including neighboring bar owners AND local police/rent-a-cops) that two customers had recently also been very badly beaten (so badly that they were hospitalized) by people that the manager (Lisa) had hired. Scary, to say the least.

Given the semi-recent HIV scare and this news, I think an open ISG PSA is called for. Avoid X-ta-sea at all costs.

As a side note, I recommend the following:

For P4P: Manhattan's or Judy's on TR lu are cannot miss places, and very clear cut in terms of hookups.

For other fun: Annie's bar, Deja Vu, and Woodstock are fun, and especially Woodstock will not rip you off (Annie's bar will try to rip you off, so negotiate like crazy there).

Happy and SAFE mongering.

-B-

Ace Gallant
03-19-07, 01:50
Fellow ISG members

This is kind of a public service announcement. It has come to my attention that several people have been robbed (not just paid too much, but actually robbed - a friend of mine to the tune of more than $1000 USD...though he is destined to get that back via his credit card company) at Xtasea, a well known bar on Tong Ren Lu. Last night I also learned (from very reliable sources, including neighboring bar owners AND local police/rent-a-cops) that two customers had recently also been very badly beaten (so badly that they were hospitalized) by people that the manager (Lisa) had hired. Scary, to say the least.

Given the semi-recent HIV scare and this news, I think an open ISG PSA is called for. Avoid X-ta-sea at all costs.

As a side note, I recommend the following:

For P4P: Manhattan's or Judy's on TR lu are cannot miss places, and very clear cut in terms of hookups.

For other fun: Annie's bar, Deja Vu, and Woodstock are fun, and especially Woodstock will not rip you off (Annie's bar will try to rip you off, so negotiate like crazy there).

Happy and SAFE mongering.

-B-I can verify that these are all true. It is not the first time that this had happened in XTASEA. This bar have a bad record from Credit Cards companies as many of those who had paid using credit card was double charge. Most of the customer found out later and disputed the charges. Another technique they use is also to run your Credit Card through their machine in their bar and tell you that it is not working so that they will go down to Manhattan and charge you again. This way they will double charge you. Although they may present you with one print to be signed, they did not invalidate the first charge and therefore you will get double charges. Watch out for charges that are under “Dreams Café – Shanghai” this is their registered company name in which will appear on your Credit Card statement.

However, the part on customers been beaten up; it could be a rumor set off from their neighboring bars to make customer avoid XTASEA. Mainly all of them are their enemies because Lisa had not been such a nice person to their neighbors. It is an extreme offense to beat up customer (especially foreigners) regardless of whether they refuse payment. The will attribute to suspension of their Bar license which will forced them to be closed by the local police.

On getting ripped off; Every bar on TRL has girls that are ready to ripped you off anytime. It depends on which type of bars you are in. Manhattan, Judy’s are popular for freelancers pick up girls. XTASEA, Woodstock, is a semi-chat bar in which some of the girls will go out with you for a price, Annie’s is also a semi-chat bar in which some of the girls all even do you inside the bar!

Definitions:

Pick Up bars: Bars that has lots of pick up girls, for a price, they do ST or LT in your hotel These girls do not work there.

Chat bars: Waitress will “entertain you by playing dice games etc, with you. They will pester you to buy them drinks (sometimes fake – without alcohol) they make commission out of it.

Restaurants: Some of them like Blue frog on TRL… they are purely food joints however sometimes you may pick up freebies or freelancers in them too.

Enjoy,

AG

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Tiger 888
03-19-07, 03:54
Easy on the newbies guys. You don't want to be another AG who gets Flamed and banned because he offended people on the board by telling them off with RTFF.

AG

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Hi,

You also don't want to get banned for using multiple aliases.

Thanks,

Jackson
I don't understand this Jackson, why do you allow to change handles then?

OldAsiaHand
03-19-07, 04:11
Now, this is a perfect candidate for Dragon D. He deserves it.

Just my POV.

OAH


Need a guide, meeting whole two darn days, they put me up in this Pudong area, Rennaisance and flight back early in the morning. Anywhere near here for MP with lot extra services, HJ, BBBJ or LT after massage? Desperately need an info..

Dragon D
03-19-07, 04:25
How sweet, I get to keep this one? I am always available to anyone who needs the help.

Just PM me and all your questions will be answered..

Johnny Wynne
03-19-07, 06:48
HI Guys,

I really need urgent help here. I am supposed to be entertaining some client big wigs next week and all they have been talking about is the Shanghai Hotels Red Rope fun.

Now I log on and see the Shanghai Hotel Spa has closed.

Can anyone point me to another GOOD spa in Shanghai that does the Red Rope routine?

As I understand it Waves is more the Soapy style of fun, but I really need the Red Rope routine with pretty girls.

Thanks kindly
Jon

Bonzo1
03-19-07, 11:57
Yeah, that could be true that the neighbors just don't like Lisa (in fact, I know some of them despise her) and thus are trying to spread bad words. I did speak with one of the rent-a-cops that I know there and he mentioned to be careful of Xtasea because a or some foreigners were hurt there recently, but with my limited Chinese I couldn't get more than that so I can't really verify the exact story.

Regardless, there are plenty of other fun bars that won't cheat us (or as badly) and are safer, in several aspects apparently.

Btw, like your new handle, "Another Ghost"!

Best,

-B-


I can verify that these are all true. It is not the first time that this had happened in XTASEA. This bar have a bad record from Credit Cards companies as many of those who had paid using credit card was double charge. Most of the customer found out later and disputed the charges. Another technique they use is also to run your Credit Card through their machine in their bar and tell you that it is not working so that they will go down to Manhattan and charge you again. This way they will double charge you. Although they may present you with one print to be signed, they did not invalidate the first charge and therefore you will get double charges. Watch out for charges that are under “Dreams Café – Shanghai” this is their registered company name in which will appear on your Credit Card statement.

However, the part on customers been beaten up; it could be a rumor set off from their neighboring bars to make customer avoid XTASEA. Mainly all of them are their enemies because Lisa had not been such a nice person to their neighbors. It is an extreme offense to beat up customer (especially foreigners) regardless of whether they refuse payment. The will attribute to suspension of their Bar license which will forced them to be closed by the local police.


AG

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Ace Gallant
03-19-07, 12:09
HI Guys,

I really need urgent help here. I am supposed to be entertaining some client big wigs next week and all they have been talking about is the Shanghai Hotels Red Rope fun.

Now I log on and see the Shanghai Hotel Spa has closed.

Can anyone point me to another GOOD spa in Shanghai that does the Red Rope routine?

As I understand it Waves is more the Soapy style of fun, but I really need the Red Rope routine with pretty girls.

Thanks kindly,

JonTry Waves, Search in this threads for "Waves" it is a very presentable Sauna.

AG

Dragon D
03-19-07, 12:25
Try 500 Wuzhong road. Xiang Mi Hu hotel. They have red rope. That is the easiest. Also any people that need to or want to go to KTV, let me know. There is a nice one where the girls give a lap dance. 1550 Min spending including room fee. Weekends 50% off room fee and min spending. Girls 400 each, xiao mei 200, little waiter boy 100, mommy up to you. PM me so we can get a few people to go together. More fun that way. PM me for details as I don't want to over expose the place.

Ace Gallant
03-19-07, 12:31
Yeah, that could be true that the neighbors just don't like Lisa (in fact, I know some of them despise her) and thus are trying to spread bad words. I did speak with one of the rent-a-cops that I know there and he mentioned to be careful of Xtasea because a or some foreigners were hurt there recently, but with my limited Chinese I couldn't get more than that so I can't really verify the exact story.

Regardless, there are plenty of other fun bars that won't cheat us (or as badly) and are safer, in several aspects apparently.

Btw, like your new handle, "Another Ghost"!

Best,

-B-I don't think they are Rent-a-Cop, I think they are the security from Jin An Security Company. In any case, they are not the beat up anybody.

I'll check with them when I get back.

Another Ghost is given by Tiger 888 of HK threads when I met him in HK recently.

AG

Shanghai Jack
03-19-07, 13:26
I was just to shut down my PC and go for the Shanghai Hotel when I thought ‘You did not check the ISG for a couple of days and should better stay up to date.’ And as usual it was worth it:
Shanghai Hotel closed! I mean what are these guys thinking? You cannot close Shanghai Hotel! That would be like knocking down the TV tower or closing the Bund down. This is a Shanghai institution! Anyway, I have the slight feeling they don’t care if this hurts my feelings. So I changed my mind and decided to head for the Ji Yuan instead. Wise decision!

I arrived around 6 pm and could just walk through to the fish bowl area. At least 20 girls to choose from - and all in good shape.
Normally I go for the tall and slim ones but this time a small lady with a nice rack gave me a naughty smile so I could not resist.
Her name is Liu Yang (number 3) from Dalian, 21 years old and relatively new to Shanghai (speaks some English).
I mean she is really not pretty compared to the normal soapland standard, especially her nose is somehow too big for what you see normally in China.
--> But who cares if the service is good, and damn good it was!
10 seconds after I sat down in the shower she started sucking with a lot of enthusiasm. It was so good I was about to explode after some minutes. She realized it and said ‘You wait!” No problem… On the water bed she made some interesting acrobatics and I had to push her away several times before she came too close if you know what I mean.
On the normal bed, she continued BBBJ maintaining eye contact (for those who like it). I like it, so it was really too much for me. Finished with CIM, no complaint from her whatsoever. All this after only 20 minutes… She gave me a pretty hard massage and asked me to relax and wait a bit.
She returned with a large bag and took out:
1. Police woman uniform dress
2. Police woman hat
3. Handcuffs

She put on her dress and the hat and cuffed my wrist to hers. Than she said ‘Now I fuck you!’ As it makes no sense to stand up against the police I did her the favor and she was really going wild. I was surprised that such a relatively small girl did not complain about size, she really seemed to enjoy it. After 30 minutes exhausting action, we both needed a shower. Her only comment was ‘you quite good!’ What standards does this woman have?

I left completely empty and happy. Total damage 760 RMB as usual.
Walked home and passed by the pub. Looks dead, but according to all these recent posts seems to be alive and kicking. Now that SH hotel is closed there are no excuses anymore, must check it out this week.

Have fun,
SJ

Shanghai Jack
03-19-07, 13:50
Hehehe, I am innocent!

In fact, I tried to "book" her several times before Chinese NY, because ur enthusiasm made me very curious, but - helas - I never managed. It was quite hard to find out about her, because u and Shanghai Jack didn't really give precise information here (so much about "willing to share", you bastards!)
Unfortunately, she never was there when I showed up, so I believe she probably already left before CNY. Levitian
And I am the biggest idiot! I lost her card with her mobile number...
SJ

Member #1344
03-19-07, 17:03
I went to the sauna at 500 WuZhong Lu that everyone has written about the other day. I originally went there to try the KTV and sauna special for 800 RMB. However, the KTV is completely closed for renovations. I stopped by the 5th floor and the carpet was torn up, the ceiling was being worked on, etc. The girl I saw, #576, didn't know when the renovation would be over.

The sauna experience was fairly typical for a lower priced sauna. Since I'm not in Asia very often, I'd probably not repeat and instead splurge on a higher priced/higher quality option.

Hopefully the next time I'm in Shanghai, the KTV will be open again.

Ace Gallant
03-19-07, 18:19
I went to the sauna at 500 WuZhong Lu that everyone has written about the other day. I originally went there to try the KTV and sauna special for 800 RMB. However, the KTV is completely closed for renovations. I stopped by the 5th floor and the carpet was torn up, the ceiling was being worked on, etc. The girl I saw, #576, didn't know when the renovation would be over.

The sauna experience was fairly typical for a lower priced sauna. Since I'm not in Asia very often, I'd probably not repeat and instead splurge on a higher priced/higher quality option.

Hopefully the next time I'm in Shanghai, the KTV will be open again.You must have gone there sometime ago. Wooo... and I was there on Sat evening the Sauna is fully done up on 5th floor.

AG

Sapperken
03-20-07, 00:43
Just back from a trip to Shanghai. I RTFF and asked my colleague to check me in to the Shanghai hotel.

Went through the motions with a spa bath and body scrub but didn't waste too much time getting through to the girls. Only 3 to choose from but all would look good sliding down my pole.

Within an hour of check-in my cock was spitting spunk under the careful touch of No 62. I was well up for it and managed 2 pops and was building up for a third when time was up.

Didn't get red rope this time round but was damn sure I would next time.

Thanks for the pointers guys

SK

Garmin
03-20-07, 01:11
Shanghai
Day One, Monday

After a 10 hours flight, I finally got into this big city at 5 pm.

Yes it is my first time here and was impressed by the size of the city. After a dinner at hooters with a local friend who knows very well his stuff he led us to a great place.
I do not remember the name since it was written in Chinese. The only thing I remember is 157.

We were 3 of us and been brought to a locker room where we undressed and were asked to wear a kind of short pajama. We looked quite funny like this. Then we went in a private waiting room with TV and drinks. The place seemed crowded because we had to wait there before being called. I was the second to be called. At that time I had only the choice between two charming girls. Easy choice, since they were both very cute (7), looking 22 yeras old(as usual) nice medium firm tits, wearing mini skirts, pretty short around 160cm and light skinned. I quickly made my choice and she looked very happy to have been selected, took my arm and led me to the room through gangways and stairs, with a dry bed, a shower and a wet bed. She did not know any word of English, but this time, I was not there for a chat!

She placed a call to the manager to tell him that she was starting action and then started dancing and undressing me. She brought me to the shower and began to wash each square inch of my body. Then we lied me down on the wet mattress and she oiled me with a strange mixture and began to slip and swing her tits and pussy over my entire body, making me difficult not to come. Next, dried up, to the main room where she slurped cold and then warm water all over my body. She placed a condom on my big toe and sat on it. She inserted my toe into her vagina while getting a BJ! Next, full body tongue bath, licking from my each toe to each finger and deep ass licking. Vibrator time and BBBJ, when she felt me coming, she turned around and I got a great shot of her pussy then FS, she rode me as a cowgirl, we moved through some classic positions and I finished doggie.

What a tour! I discovered so many things that a western girl never done me before.
1.30 am, we began to feel tired and get back to the hotel. 780 rmb

To be followed….

Hey guys, can you give me some clues for what has to be done tonight Tuesday evening?

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Sapperken
03-20-07, 02:40
After my nice warm up session in the SH spa I was soon ready for soem more and after a bite to eat headed back to the same place.

Forget all the bodyscrub business this time and after a good shower, head straight for the girls. No 2 is the lucky lady this time. Chosen because she was pretty, tall enough to stand out from the crowded room and with reasonable tits.

Much more relaxed session this time as I'd already popped earlier in the afternoon. The massage this time was fantastic, much better than first time. The fire and ice was really horny and when she started sucking the skin of my back and legs it was like a vacuum cleaner and left some delicious marks on my skin(maybe I'm into something I didn't realise).

Then into the red rope, this lady gave me a great time, changing positions and deep throating. The mirror on the ceiling gave a smashing view of a gymnastically stretched pussy to tempt me.

When she came down to earth I was ready for some deep pussy sex. On with the raincoat and her sweet tight pussy was soon filled with my cock. Lots of positions (I'll have to research what they are called lol) but my favourite was when we were sat upright facing each other sliding our asses back and forth to get the motion going. Fantastic pressure on my cock.

I like to DATY so pulled my still hard cock out and replaced it with my tongue. She seemed reluctant at first but soon succumbed. I enjoy this bit and I am glad I made her come. Having filled 2 condoms earlier in the day, this time I wanted to shoot bareback and indicated as such. Mnaged to finish stood up and covering her tits.

Great time but next shag needs to be something different.

SK

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Sapperken
03-20-07, 03:12
Was taken to this bar by a colleague. Seemed fine but I am concerned since reading soem of the recent posts that it may not be somewhaere to go for the future.

Anyway, spent a couple of evenings here. Regardless of the outcome, i do enjoy being closely surrounded by female flesh. First evening was spent playing dice games etc and getting intimate with one petite lady. Not the cheapest night out but, hey, I enjoyed myself.

Next night, two days later, started later. Hooked up stright away with the same lady. It was Monday and quiet. My new friend told me she would be able to leave after 1 hour 30 (2am) and wanted to go with me. I'm up for it.

At the appointed time we left together and headed off to my hotel.

What a little fuck bunny! not the best looker in the bar but my goodness she was horny. We were at it for ages and she went for it all. She was even up for trying anal but we discovered an incompatability of size. Anyway, she fucked me to sleep and we had used up a few of the condoms I had brought from home.

I had to up quite early for work the next morning and it was great to wake up with a naked lady half my age ready to suck me dry all over again. She left just before I did (having made my bed and tidied up, I love these girls). No money was asked for and none offered. I guess this was some form of payback for the amount I had spent a few days before.

I had a nice GF type text from her later in the day so I reckon she was comfortable with it. I guess she knows I will look her up next time I'm in Shanghai.

Last word on the quality of girls in this bar. I'm not as choosy as some and just like women but there are quite a wide range of looks and figures here. Maybe something for every taste but not to everyones liking. Some mutton dressed as lamb and some real stunners. My mate latched on to a good looking lady but she could not be tempted out of the bar under any circumstances.

Have fun but be careful

SK

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Levitian
03-20-07, 04:30
AG, I think the sauna is on the 4th, not on the 5th floor. The KTV is on the 5th floor, and when I went there last week tuesday, it was still operating, but ... the place is shabby, and I could imagine they will or already started to renovate it.

Levitian

Ace Gallant
03-20-07, 07:47
AG, I think the sauna is on the 4th, not on the 5th floor. The KTV is on the 5th floor, and when I went there last week tuesday, it was still operating, but ... the place is shabby, and I could imagine they will or already started to renovate it.

LevitianAre we talking about the Sauna or the KTV? Yes agreed the Sauna is on the 4th floor and the KTV is on the 5th. But if you take the Elevator on the left side, you have to press 5th Floor to get to the 4th floor sauna!!! (Because there is no 4th floor button!) :D

AG

Ace Gallant
03-20-07, 09:09
Just back from a trip to Shanghai. I RTFF and asked my colleague to check me in to the Shanghai hotel.

Went through the motions with a spa bath and body scrub but didn't waste too much time getting through to the girls. Only 3 to choose from but all would look good sliding down my pole.

Within an hour of check-in my cock was spitting spunk under the careful touch of No 62. I was well up for it and managed 2 pops and was building up for a third when time was up.

Didn't get red rope this time round but was damn sure I would next time.

Thanks for the pointers guys

SKGreat that you enjoyed your trip to Shanghai. One question: Can you clarify when did you went to the Sauna in Shanghai Hotel? It was closed down by the cops recently so if you can tell us when was it you were there, it will avoid confusion to the other members of the board.

Thanks,

AG

Ace Gallant
03-20-07, 09:19
No money was asked for and none offered. I guess this was some form of payback for the amount I had spent a few days before.
Have fun but be careful

SK

Sorry. I hope I don't sound like I am doubting you. But question again:

Can you tell the other members what's the name of the girl and how much did you spent in the bar?

This will helps the other members to have a better hit rate.

In Xtasea bar and several bars in TRL. Yes. Agreed with you; freebies is highly possible. But as you said. It comes in form of payback; for the amount you had spent a few days before. In some cases, it is also possible to Fuck for free as some of the girls are looking for a longer term ROI (Return Of Investments).

In Xtasea bar, a few of the girls (who not longer works for the bar) married their customers who used to frequent the bar. These are considered a form of long term ROI.

WAIT WAIT WAIT! Guys be nice. I know by saying this. Soem of you guys will satrt saying things like "What a sucker these guys were! "

BUT! The fact is. Some of these girls are actually very nice girls. Just that they are born in the wrong place.

AG

Jaybee75
03-20-07, 20:34
Hi all,

Just got back to London from an ourstanding long weekend, and following on from my post 8063 asking for info about freebies I thought I'd report back!

Stabucks XTD:

Any single girls there appreared to be professionals! $$$

Skype:

Secured the friendship of a 6/10 Shanghai girl who stayed with me for 2 nights, some taxi money, and food covered my be. She was a lovely girl but a little heavy! Babyface 2.

Fantastic! On Friday night I met a beautiful 24 year old Shanghai girl (accountant) who is certainly a 10/10. She was with a group of friends, but she kept looking at me while I was at the bar so I offered her a drink. Got chatting. Very slowley as her English was not so good. She went home but exchanged numbers. Next day I get a call and we meet up for lunch, and she became my companion until early this morning (excluding her working on Monday). She's never slept with a westerner before, and boy she was the best **** I've ever had! Moaned and screamed like an angel! , she was stunning, a smile that would send me into a trance, a little shy at first. This will be a memory of China I won't forget for a long while!

Good luck all. I'm booking my return flights soon!

Texas Rob
03-21-07, 05:50
Hey Family,

I wanted to make sure I popped my cherry before I headed to Shanghai on Friday. I have been a long time reader but a first time poster. Just signed up for the fully paid membership and am so excited about my first visit to China from Texas.

I have read the forum till my eye's bleed but there are still a few things that don't make sense. Either way, i'm a little hesitant about being able to find some good places on my own. I have written down a ton of names of places and hope to make my way around.

Thanks for this great forum and contributions.

TexasRob

Ace Gallant
03-21-07, 11:41
Hey Family,

I have read the forum till my eye's bleed but there are still a few things that don't make sense. Either way, i'm a little hesitant about being able to find some good places on my own. I have written down a ton of names of places and hope to make my way around.

Thanks for this great forum and contributions.

TexasRobNow I'll be darn. "I have read the forum till my eye's bleed". Please save all the blood for doing lots of girl when you come out here!

"Hey Family". There is no family, no Shanghai gang, no friendly faces here. There are just mongers on the board.

"I have written down a ton of names of places and hope to make my way around. ". A lot of reports offers good information however as a first timer in China who don't speak the langauge. It is advisable to get a guide.

"Thanks for this great forum and contributions. ". You forgot to thanks Jackson. Bad boy. One less tips for you in finding pussies!

AG

Member #1344
03-21-07, 13:16
Are we talking about the Sauna or the KTV? Yes agreed the Sauna is on the 4th floor and the KTV is on the 5th. But if you take the Elevator on the left side, you have to press 5th Floor to get to the 4th floor sauna!!! (Because there is no 4th floor button!) :D

AGI was there on Sunday night. I definitely went to the 5th floor which had the ripped up carpeting since I then walked down the stairs to the 4th floor. I'm surprised the elevators still allowed guests to get off on the 5th floor due to the state of disrepair.

Albert Punter
03-21-07, 13:21
Don't be shy and ask questions.
We are here to help.



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I have read the forum till my eye's bleed but there are still a few things that don't make sense. Either way, i'm a little hesitant about being able to find some good places on my own. I have written down a ton of names of places and hope to make my way around.
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Wilde
03-21-07, 13:28
Hey Family,

I wanted to make sure I popped my cherry before I headed to Shanghai on Friday. I have been a long time reader but a first time poster. Just signed up for the fully paid membership and am so excited about my first visit to China from Texas.

I have read the forum till my eye's bleed but there are still a few things that don't make sense. Either way, i'm a little hesitant about being able to find some good places on my own. I have written down a ton of names of places and hope to make my way around.

Thanks for this great forum and contributions.

TexasRob

I know you meant that this is your first post. But if you are a real virgin, there are working girls in China that will pay you some lucky money after they popped your cherry. LOL.

Mark17
03-21-07, 15:48
I had someone contact the Shanghai Hotel to see if they plan to open their sauna again. All they said is it is closed, and they have no plans to re-open it.

I guess it was getting too expensive to pay-off the cops.

Will Yu-Ping be next?

Can anyone recommend any other similar places?

Sapperken
03-21-07, 18:37
Great that you enjoyed your trip to Shanghai. One question: Can you clarify when did you went to the Sauna in Shanghai Hotel? It was closed down by the cops recently so if you can tell us when was it you were there, it will avoid confusion to the other members of the board.

Thanks,

AGBoth my trips to the Shanghai Hotel Sauna were made on Sat 10 March. No signs of it closing down then!

SK

Sapperken
03-21-07, 18:44
Sorry. I hope I don't sound like I am doubting you. But question again:

Can you tell the other members what's the name of the girl and how much did you spent in the bar?

This will helps the other members to have a better hit rate.

I have trouble getting to grips with the Chinese names but this lady was called Peggy in English. Not the best looker in the bar but as I found out later she fucks like a little rabbit :-). (pictures to follow soon when I have changed the faces to protect the guilty)

I'm almost embarrassed to say how much I spent in the bar on the first night. Oh alright then, 1000 RMB! Hang my head in shame (but I had a good time)

SK

Sapperken
03-21-07, 18:54
Please forgive spelling if I got the name wrong.

I saw some comments about the dissappearance of this market a while ago. Given the services of a driver one afternoon on my last trip. We asked for the repacement for the old market and were taken to a mall of sorts. Inside it was immediately recognisable with most of the stallholders' sign having found there way from the old outdoor market to his new indoor venue. Still a bewildering array of stalls on 2/3 floors.

Made some cracking purchases of 'souvenirs' for my family back home.

Address of the mall?

Shanghai Long Hua Dress Gift Market
No. 2465 Long Hua Road

SK

Jktravl
03-22-07, 04:07
I am a newbie, and leave for Shanghai tomorrow for 3 weeks and just wanted to thank everyone for your posts, especially the rip off places (credit card) and the BBS etiquitte. Thanks to you I have a pretty good handle on things. Will be staying at the St Regis in Pudong. If any of you would be willing to help a newbie out and about, and help show me the ropes, (I still don't get the ropes) it would be appreciated. I hope I can access this site from the great firewall of China. With any luck, I hope to contribute by either sucess or taking one for the team.

Bonzo1
03-22-07, 12:13
i know her, and as you reported she is also a total wild thing in bed (and pleasant/fun personality too, and speaks decent english). you are definitely showing the best part of her (nice pics, btw!). not that she's god awful ugly, but let's just say she looks a lot better at night than in the morning.

however, and i hate to tell you this, but the second time i met her, her snatch stunk something fierce, even after showering thoroughly. could smell it without even being "down there". not [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) or sweat type smell, but really pronounced, so it was obviously a yeast infection or another type of infection (which is often accompanied by and an indication of herpes and other std's). so i had to ask her to leave. i didn't see her at the bar after that (3+ months) so i guessed she had quit working.

you might wanna get yourself checked out just to be careful (even though your pictures imply that it was not a breakout period and that you covered up, so probably nothing to worry about).



i have trouble getting to grips with the chinese names but this lady was called peggy in english. not the best looker in the bar but as i found out later she fucks like a little rabbit :-). (pictures to follow soon when i have changed the faces to protect the guilty)

i'm almost embarrassed to say how much i spent in the bar on the first night. oh alright then, 1000 rmb! hang my head in shame (but i had a good time)

sk

Bonzo1
03-22-07, 12:40
Was taken by some friends to a KTV a few nights ago on Huai Hai lu (I don't recall the exact name of the place, but I recall it was reviewed on this board before. It is close to Babyface bar).

The decoration of this place is astounding - looks kinda like a Vegas hotel rather than an KTV. The girls ranged from 7's to 10's, and there must have been hundreds working there!! Did not see a single bad looker in the place (including most of the xiao mei's, who were also mostly either pretty or downright hot). Everything you would want a top quality KTV to be.

We didn't do the typical lineup thing, Amy, our mama, brought us to the "back room" where all the girls hang out and we got to mingle and pick from there. So our choice wasn't limited to the typical 10 or so per lineup, but more like 50+ some girls coming and going in the hall.

I'm not sure of the exact cost since it was a "company event" and I didn't have to pay for anything but my girl, but I think the room plus tips to the mama and two xiao mei's (our room was 5 guys + 5 girls) and waiter was something around 3000 (total cost, not per person), which seems not really different than any other KTV (except perhaps the really local ones). Of course smaller rooms and only one xiao mei would be cheaper.

A couple guys exchanged their girls after some chatting (10-15 min) and the mama didn't charge them for that. Later in the night one guy saw a girl in the hall he really liked and exchanged for her (the mama helped), but he tipped his former girl 300, appropriately, since he'd been with her for a while.

Another plus I found in this place was that several girls spoke at least some level of English (ask mama for recommendations). I chose Wei Wei, who was just about as nice and sweet as she could possibly be (almost didn't seem like a KTV girl at all), and very pretty with excellent body (if you like girls that have great tits and aren't rail thin). She has a lispe but speaks quite good English.

Downside was the take home rate. 1500 ST and 2000 LT. I tried to negotiate but failed (long story, but I had assumed 1500 was the LT rate and then later she told me that was for short time, which was really the only complaint of the evening, but I paid her the 2000 anyway since it was such a great experience overall - and as I've mentioned before on this board I'm not overly concerned about a few bucks here or there but prefer to ensure good service and good standing). Anyhow, I imagine if you negotiate with the mama up front you could get a better rate.

One additional piece of information is that I noticed there was also a sauna in the building. Anyone tried that before?

Summary

Location: Huai hai lu, near babyface (search board for exact address)
Decor: A+
Girls: 7 to 10, and at least a few if not more spoke fairly decent English
Mama: Spoke a bit of English and very helpful and pleasant
Wei Wei: Total sweetheart, and one of the best GFE's I've had in China
Damage: Not cheap, but it is a KTV after all. Recommend this as a place for people with expensive tastes (though really, compared to hiring an all night smoking hot escort in the Western world, or even in Taiwan or Japan I suppose, I still consider this really really cheap).

Ace Gallant
03-22-07, 12:41
i know her, and as you reported she is also a total wild thing in bed (and pleasant/fun personality too, and speaks decent english). you are definitely showing the best part of her (nice pics, btw!). not that she's god awful ugly, but let's just say she looks a lot better at night than in the morning.

however, and i hate to tell you this, but the second time i met her, her snatch stunk something fierce, even after showering thoroughly. could smell it without even being "down there". not [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) or sweat type smell, but really pronounced, so it was obviously a yeast infection or another type of infection (which is often accompanied by and an indication of herpes and other std's). so i had to ask her to leave. i didn't see her at the bar after that (3+ months) so i guessed she had quit working.

you might wanna get yourself checked out just to be careful (even though your pictures imply that it was not a breakout period and that you covered up, so probably nothing to worry about).peggy will fuck any thing that moves.

hahaha.

ag

Mock A Bee
03-22-07, 12:49
Regarding Peggy at Xtasea, she is a nice girl and all, but her xiao mei mei is rather used up. She will pretty much sleep with anyone. By the way, she likes to give bj's in the stairwell by the elevator.

She has a smelly xiao mei mei for a reason!

MAB

Albert Punter
03-22-07, 13:51
Probably you refer to same KTV reported by Rob Hay in this post
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=559236&postcount=7807

It is called Golden Bell Plaza and it is located at 98 Huai Hai Lu.

FumbDuck
03-22-07, 14:35
I understand the "black market" was split into about 4 smaller markets. I visited one a couple weeks back. It's one block east of HongJing Lu and a couple blocks south of Yan'An Lu. It has multiple floors of small shops. It opens about 10AM.

Shanghai Hong Qiao Da Tong Yang Market
461 Jinhui Road

In case you need help for a taxi, here's the mobile number of the shop where I bought some knock off bags: 1312 229 9896

Duck


Please forgive spelling if I got the name wrong.

I saw some comments about the dissappearance of this market a while ago. Given the services of a driver one afternoon on my last trip. We asked for the repacement for the old market and were taken to a mall of sorts. Inside it was immediately recognisable with most of the stallholders' sign having found there way from the old outdoor market to his new indoor venue. Still a bewildering array of stalls on 2/3 floors.

Made some cracking purchases of 'souvenirs' for my family back home.

Address of the mall?

Shanghai Long Hua Dress Gift Market
No. 2465 Long Hua Road

SK

Crazy Wolf
03-22-07, 15:20
Please forgive spelling if I got the name wrong.

I saw some comments about the dissappearance of this market a while ago. Given the services of a driver one afternoon on my last trip. We asked for the repacement for the old market and were taken to a mall of sorts. Inside it was immediately recognisable with most of the stallholders' sign having found there way from the old outdoor market to his new indoor venue. Still a bewildering array of stalls on 2/3 floors.

Made some cracking purchases of 'souvenirs' for my family back home.

Address of the mall?

Shanghai Long Hua Dress Gift Market
No. 2465 Long Hua Road

SKAnother one is:

Shanghai Feng Xiang Clothing Gift Market

Hua Zai Wu Zhen

Nanjing West Road 580 (indoor)

Sapperken
03-22-07, 18:15
Regarding Peggy at Xtasea, she is a nice girl and all, but her xiao mei mei is rather used up. She will pretty much sleep with anyone. By the way, she likes to give bj's in the stairwell by the elevator.

She has a smelly xiao mei mei for a reason!

MABThanks for the vote of confidence LOL. I thought it was my charm and personality that bowled this maiden over.

Re: smelly snatch - I must have caught her on good day because she was sweet as a rose down there (I did spend a long time DATY).

Sapperken
03-22-07, 18:24
I know her, and as you reported she is also a total wild thing in bed (and pleasant/fun personality too, and speaks decent English). You are definitely showing the best part of her (nice pics, btw!). Not that she's god awful ugly, but let's just say she looks a lot better at night than in the morning.Thanks comment on the pics. My first attempt and I was trying to show my little brother in the best possible light. By the way, I'm sure I was happier waking up next to her than she was waking up next to me LOL. I not exactly God's gift :-)

Thanks for the warning about hygeine but I think on this occasion, if not before, she was clean and sweet.

Which of her friends would you recommend?

SK

Texas Rob
03-22-07, 23:23
I'm getting in on Saturday for my first visit. I can't wait to try some of these things like Red Rope, Fire and Ice, KTV, etc.. but also I was wondering if anyone could recommend a place that makes nice (for a cheap price) suits. Friends of mine said that HongKong is the best but I have to assume that Shanghai has a few places like this.

Someone had mentioned the fabric market but wanted to ask the family.


I understand the "black market" was split into about 4 smaller markets. I visited one a couple weeks back. It's one block east of HongJing Lu and a couple blocks south of Yan'An Lu. It has multiple floors of small shops. It opens about 10AM.

Shanghai Hong Qiao Da Tong Yang Market
461 Jinhui Road

In case you need help for a taxi, here's the mobile number of the shop where I bought some knock off bags: 1312 229 9896

Duck

Tanja China
03-22-07, 23:57
The address for a good market is Pu Dong Ya Tai Xin Yang Clothing Market.

It is in the under ground subway station.

FumbDuck
03-23-07, 01:17
Attached is a picture of a Cialis knockoff. I've seen it in a couple adult toy stores. I worked the price down to 100RMB for a bottle of 10, so I figured it was worth a shot. I was surprised that it actually did have a positive effect. It does not seem to last as long as the authentic Cialis, but for 10RMb a shot, it's a good alternative.

Here's hoping my dick won't turn green and fall off.

Crazy Jim Wood
03-23-07, 03:37
Can anyone out there recommend a favorite 4-star hotel in Shanghai? Something in the 500-600 RMB range.

I will be bringing my company, so on site companionship is not an issue.

I also like a good breafast buffet that suits the Western palate.

Thanks in advance,
Jimbo

Levitian
03-23-07, 04:18
CJW,

The "Anting Villas" is quite a good hotel in this price range, nicely located in a park in the former "french concession", on Anting Road, very quiet, and Hengshan Road with its bars, pubs & restaurants is 2 minutes walk away.
If not, I heart some good feedbacks of the "Howard Johnson All Suites"-Hotel on Yanan West Road, which is slightly above your price range (CNY 650 +).

I am sure other suggestions will come.

Levitian

Rob Hay
03-23-07, 04:35
TO anyone in town tonight there is a good party going on at Muse. Carnesseur too bad you are not in town i have some friends to introduce you to here. You've got to get rid of that KTV girl of yours....its definately time to expand. ANy fans of the kept relationship situation might want to come take a look, I'm told the best of the Chinese crowd is going to show. Also Fudan university is throwing a party tomorrow.

Red rope fans i found a place near HK plaza on Hua Hai Lu. Big Sauna sign outside, same alley as the Las Vegas KTV. Have not tried as massage is not my thing but who know....

Gualtier Malde
03-23-07, 05:17
Yup yup, I fucked her too, for free of course. Told me to call her anytime before work, she loves to fuck. Thus proving that she'll fuck ANYBODY!!!! :D

She is a damn rabbit. But she gets pissed off if you don't treat her right later at the bar!


GM

M02040608
03-23-07, 08:04
hua ting hotel is what you might be looking for. use expedia.


Can anyone out there recommend a favorite 4-star hotel in Shanghai? Something in the 500-600 RMB range.

I will be bringing my company, so on site companionship is not an issue.

I also like a good breafast buffet that suits the Western palate.

Thanks in advance,
Jimbo

Hot Dog
03-23-07, 13:21
this hotel includes what i imagine is a ktv establishment. so we check in and on our way out to dinner at about 8pm i am looking for the bar to get a beer and go to the third floor which is where the front desk directed me. this looks dull so i take the escalators downward and see a pretty girl who beckons me on and down. this entrance as i subsequently discover is in the main hotel foyer to the left of the check in/concierge desk. anyway the mamasan has just had a team meeting and the entrance vestibul is lined on either side with about 20 beauties in long dresses. as i walk down this gauntlet of dames i now have a stunned and broad grin but as i later discover these girls are the lures not the players. this then is the piano bar and jessica the english manager welcomes me and tells me what’s what. rmb 400 for a girl to join you and you can sit at the bar or take one of the half dozen sofa areas rep001tered around the bar area. there are also about 4 karioke rooms ranging from rmb 1500 to 2500 depending on size and this i think includes a bottle of whiskey. you are also expected to spend about rmb 500 on drinks and tip jessica about 200 or 300. girls drinks are 100 and a beer about 50. if you take the girl to your room this is rmb2100 (girl gets 1500) and you don’t pay the rmb400. you can however skip the drinks thing altogether and take a girl straight out for 2100 and i guess a tip for jessica. the whole set up is pretty classy. opens at 7pm closes around 2am.
anyway we go out to dinner and back at around midnight and many of the girls have gone home so we have about 8 to choose from.

i am hopeless and pick a shy 21 year old who starts trembling the moment we sit down and i learn its her first night. is she a virgin; jessica asks her and she says, no sorry. i'm relieved. anyway jessica recommends lots of drink for her and three glasses of plum wine later and we are off upstairs. shower and very nervous and i am gentle but kissing her breasts she is far too sensitive for anyone who has had much sex and i move to daty. no like, no like, but the boob work is bearing fruit and she opens up and five minutes later she is heaving her hips into my face as she forces my tongue to the parts that are doing it for her. condom on and in i go and i could almost swear i have to force my way past something virginal. now real pain and nails are digging into my chest to hold me off so i am motionless and eventually she says ok. slowly she starts to respond and finally her legs are wrapped around mine with arms around my neck and if she comes again she comes 3 or 4 times but not sure. i do not risk anything other than gentle missionary and afterwards she’s exhausted and says thank you, thank you. she lives a 3 hour bus ride out of town and has nowhere to go at this hour so stays. morning a disaster and after holding her hand over mine so she directs me to her orgasm she suddenly says she hasn’t seen her mother in a year and is close to tears.

sex is out of the question and she has decided she can’t do this again. effectively her family owe 10,000 and she has been sent from a 500rmb train ride away to earn it. after a year working in a food shop she has only sent back 3000. i give her what i have which another 600 and tell her to go home to mother.

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Carnesseur
03-23-07, 16:57
Thanks Bonzo1. My experience there was almost identical. A costly night, but worth every kuai to me. If you have a group of at least 5 people or a supplier who will pick up the costs, you should try this place.

The ST and LT prices that were quoted to Bonzo1 are the same that I was quoted. Also my "girlfriend," who currently works there, has said repeatedly that those are the prices and that they don't move far from there. However, Rob Hay said he talked them down to 1200 on one night a few months ago (but they might have been quoting him short time in confusion). He did not take the girl out. Apparently most girls are taken for ST not LT from there anyway, according to my source. Probably because of the price.

N.B.--You can pay far less than this at other KTVs in Shanghai.

One thing for sure. If you look at enough lineups in this place, you are sure to find the girl of your dreams.

Carnesseur
03-23-07, 17:20
Be back soon. Keep those numbers handy!

How did the party at Muse go?

The Fudan party sounds interesting. I know a few girls who go there. Cute (7s) and quite smart. I get the impression that they are very sheltered and inexperienced sexually, though I've never tried anything with them. Just friends. Like to know what you find.


TO anyone in town tonight there is a good party going on at Muse. Carnesseur too bad you are not in town i have some friends to introduce you to here. You've got to get rid of that KTV girl of yours....its definately time to expand. ANy fans of the kept relationship situation might want to come take a look, I'm told the best of the Chinese crowd is going to show. Also Fudan university is throwing a party tomorrow.

Red rope fans i found a place near HK plaza on Hua Hai Lu. Big Sauna sign outside, same alley as the Las Vegas KTV. Have not tried as massage is not my thing but who know....

Gualtier Malde
03-23-07, 23:55
this hotel includes what i imagine is a ktv establishment. so we check in and on our way out to dinner at about 8pm i am looking for the bar to get a beer and go to the third floor which is where the front desk directed me. this looks dull so i take the escalators downward and see a pretty girl who beckons me on and down. this entrance as i subsequently discover is in the main hotel foyer to the left of the check in/concierge desk. anyway the mamasan has just had a team meeting and the entrance vestibul is lined on either side with about 20 beauties in long dresses. as i walk down this gauntlet of dames i now have a stunned and broad grin but as i later discover these girls are the lures not the players. this then is the piano bar and jessica the english manager welcomes me and tells me what’s what. rmb 400 for a girl to join you and you can sit at the bar or take one of the half dozen sofa areas rep001tered around the bar area. there are also about 4 karioke rooms ranging from rmb 1500 to 2500 depending on size and this i think includes a bottle of whiskey. you are also expected to spend about rmb 500 on drinks and tip jessica about 200 or 300. girls drinks are 100 and a beer about 50. if you take the girl to your room this is rmb2100 (girl gets 1500) and you don’t pay the rmb400. you can however skip the drinks thing altogether and take a girl straight out for 2100 and i guess a tip for jessica. the whole set up is pretty classy. opens at 7pm closes around 2am.
anyway we go out to dinner and back at around midnight and many of the girls have gone home so we have about 8 to choose from.

i am hopeless and pick a shy 21 year old who starts trembling the moment we sit down and i learn its her first night. is she a virgin; jessica asks her and she says, no sorry. i'm relieved. anyway jessica recommends lots of drink for her and three glasses of plum wine later and we are off upstairs. shower and very nervous and i am gentle but kissing her breasts she is far too sensitive for anyone who has had much sex and i move to daty. no like, no like, but the boob work is bearing fruit and she opens up and five minutes later she is heaving her hips into my face as she forces my tongue to the parts that are doing it for her. condom on and in i go and i could almost swear i have to force my way past something virginal. now real pain and nails are digging into my chest to hold me off so i am motionless and eventually she says ok. slowly she starts to respond and finally her legs are wrapped around mine with arms around my neck and if she comes again she comes 3 or 4 times but not sure. i do not risk anything other than gentle missionary and afterwards she’s exhausted and says thank you, thank you. she lives a 3 hour bus ride out of town and has nowhere to go at this hour so stays. morning a disaster and after holding her hand over mine so she directs me to her orgasm she suddenly says she hasn’t seen her mother in a year and is close to tears.

sex is out of the question and she has decided she can’t do this again. effectively her family owe 10,000 and she has been sent from a 500rmb train ride away to earn it. after a year working in a food shop she has only sent back 3000. i give her what i have which another 600 and tell her to go home to mother.


oh, hot dog... i guess you will have to live and learn. i suggest checking out of the mandarin now, all the girls will know now, and you might as well have sucker tattooed on your forehead.

so let me understand - you paid 300 in drinks, plus 2100 for all night, plus after her sob story you gave her another 600. man, you shelled out 3000 rmb for one night with that chick.

here are some lessons that readers of this forum will have learned by reading the posts:

1) western hotel takeout will always be too expensive. might as well stay home hire an escort, and save your plane fare.

2) you should be able to get an overnight guest who is cute, and loves to fuck, for 800rmb or less. or if you have any skill at picking up girls at all, for free. chinese girls are easy to catch.

3) there are a thousand sob stories. keep your heart out of your wallet. that girl was raising major cash from you. even if you gave her an extra 600, not clear where that money will go. besides, as you described your encounter, 600 was not far from what you should have paid at the outset. i seriously doubt she was actually a virgin.

4) did you also tip the mamasan? say it ain't so...

5) typical ktv girl is going to be more expensive, but not likely 2100rmb. 1500 maybe for the best of the best. but you can do cheaper and better in other venues.

sounds like you had fun, though, so that's a nice consolation. save your cash though, dude, you can get away with much much more for so much less.

gm

Alroy
03-24-07, 04:01
I spent a few days for business in the Everbright hotel and got to explore some of the onsite options. I thought that this might be useful to punters who can’t be bothered to run around the city hunting. Probably not as good as the options that that a real hunter would uncover in Shanghai but they are low hassle and easy.

The Everbright hotel is a large Chinese hotel, apparently 4 star but on the lower end of the scale though I did get a nice suite and fairly large room.

I had arranged to meet a freebie that I had met some time ago but she chickened out at the last minute because she was afraid the security would stop her on her way out -- so I now had to go hunting in the bar area or try and figure out what was close by.

I noticed that there were some women in the lobby that looked like they were looking so I made myself an easy target and a woman approached me with the standard – massagee? Question. So I asked how much and she asked for 400 for a massage and wanted to discuss other options in my room.

I took her up and asked how much for full service before we went into the room – finally we settled on 500 (down from a 1000) and we went into the room. It was a pretty miserable experience – no BJ, no kissing, she wanted to get me hard and in here and out as fast as she could. I have had others who were quite acceptable and once or twice even a good one like this but you have to be careful and make your assessment of the individual. I did notice that some of the freelancers were quite attractive but just my bad luck.

Anyway so I was kind of unsatisfied so I followed up on a lead from earlier on in the day. I had gone to the 3rd floor SPA/Massage place in the hotel for a foot massage and had a girl who gave me a really good foot massage. She had encouraged me to try a body oil massage in my room and since she had done such a good job on my feet I decided to give her a try. It was pretty damned amazing! A 90 minute massage which is standard RMB328 in your room + 300 for extra services. She did such an amazing job of getting me hard and keeping me hard, with under testicle manipulations, it was really quite wonderful. I usually prefer straight sex but this was as good as a hand job can get. She let me touch her a little but was generally reluctant.

This was so good that I decided to try it again the next night even though my freebie was willing to meet the next night as I really had not had quite an intense orgasm in ages through the massage. I got a bit more touching and we were now of course becoming friends. So it was even better the next day. I gave her 100 extra the next day.

She told me that the SPA in the hotel had HJ and Full Service options and that she was not usually into this as she was a real expert masseuse but claimed that she liked me so ….

Anyway this is a really easy option if you are staying in the hotel and some of the girls in the Spa looked pretty good. 3rd floor in the B tower – the wallpaper is a dead give away in the massage rooms. They also service women if you have a female friend in need.

My friend is number 23 – she is not the prettiest girl there but I would bet that she does give the best massage there. Especially if you call her to the room. All the options were about a 100 cheaper if you did them on site rather than in your room.

Wonderer
03-24-07, 13:03
After a long time I went once again to the Bourbon Street in Hengshan Lu, Shanghai. The place is full of professionals. But not many are pretty. I had refused quite a number before, and it was already after 1 AM as I saw Nancy. She is a petite Mongolian, but had an interesting face and slim body. We danced then together and tried some chat (it's actually far too noisy in there). I was sure it is going to be a good experience. I negotiated her initial request of 1000 down to 800. I thought it is still high, but in view of her charme, I accepted.

At my hotel, the Hilton, we entered through the "backdoor", which is actually some kind of staff entrance. We were not bothered by any security at all, to the big surprise of Nancy. She told me that in three hotels in Shanghai the security requests money if a girl is coming in: Hilton, Sofitel (I assume she means the Puxi Sofitel), Westin.

In the room she insisted to have showers separately, and also pretended to be somewhat shy. She tried turning the light down, but I had to keep enough light to see her strong and well trained, yet slim body with good muscles.

We played around, I licked her back and gave her an extensive DATY, which she enjoyed and even got a little bit wet. Then she gave me a BBBJ, but it was far too rough, and I had to tell her several times to do more gentle.

Then, for FS she was wet enough, so we did not need any cream. But I could feel, that it was mostly "business" for her. I did her in missonary quite a while and then a long time in doggy. I still think she enjoyed somewhat. When I came, she almost immediately wanted to pull out, and only with fast reaction I could manage to stay inside. Apparently she wanted to finish as soon as possible.

Finally, I pulled out and relaxed a bit. Then, when I went briefly to the bathroom, she quickly dressed up. This was actually not what I expected. At the Bourbon Street I understood that to stay with me tonight. Apparently "I come with you tonight" was her expression for ST while for me I understood LT. But I admit that I did not re-confirm clearly enough. The place is also so loud that any conversation is more than difficult. She insisted that the deal was not for overnight. I was disappointed and clearly told her. I also said that the agreed amount is by all standards in Shanghai for LT, which she rejected. She offered then to come again next morning and "do it again for free". She only would like to go out then for some lunch. I think we all know the story and the scam. So, I will not call her.

I gave her the agreed amount, and she asked me to accompany her for leaving the hotel, otherwise she would have to pay the security.

When we walked through the lobby, there was, however, no security around at all. It was all the opposite. At around 02:45 AM, about two or three guys just came in with their catch and entered the elevators. Nobody cared, and no secuirty around. In the lobby bar, there were even some girls waiting for the lonly guys who return alone.

My lessons from this experience:
- The girls from Bourbon Street are still hardcore professionals; be prepared.
- Always make it 100% clear if you want to keep her overnight and get her unambiguous confirmation for LT.

Wonderer - who will try other hunting grounds next time

M02040608
03-24-07, 15:32
I am arriving in a few days to stay at the Hua Ting Hotel in Xuhui. Does any know anything about the spa at this hotel and what kind of "services" I should expect.
Thanks
M

Dadaji
03-24-07, 18:21
I was in Shanghai for some business.

Finished with dinner @ Rainbow Cafe [Nice Place] & was headed back.

On the way, I was approached by several 'Aunties' saying 'sexy lady'.

I was curious what that was. It was actually an invitation for a 'quicky'.

I followed one of them into a building on to the 8th floor.

She showed me 2 girls. I did not like any and sent them off.

Then we talked about the price. She quoted RMB 200 for 1 shot.

We haggled and settled @ 150/-.

She then called in another 4 of them.

1 was kind of sweet. Small and young.

Took her. She had a wash, we made out for 20 minutes. Was reasonable tight. Gave a poor BJ. F****** in 5 different positions. No ANAL. Language is a problem. Came, washed up, gave her RMB 20. She was happy & I went my way.

On my way back, I saw that opposite to Hotel Shangrila was the main area.
There were more than 100 girls all over the place on the road etc. Looked wired and scary, but, I guess that is the way it happens in Shenzhen.

Next round will be there.

Dadaji

Eric Vincent 75
03-24-07, 18:23
Hello Guys,

Do you know if there is any actions in this hotel?

Also, what does "Red Rope Routine means?" - yeah, I know I have been through the RTFF, but what not able to find :-)

Thanks,

Santa
03-24-07, 21:18
Apparently "I come with you tonight" was her expression for ST while for me I understood LT. But I admit that I did not re-confirm clearly enough. The place is also so loud that any conversation is more than difficult. She insisted that the deal was not for overnight.

Wonderer, you clearly got cheated. And because you're a nice guy and didn't want to cause trouble, you paid her for long time. You should have paid only for short time and told her to fuck off. She cheated you and you let her get away with it. We have all made the same mistake, especially me.

Lesson. Do not take a girl for long time. Bargain hard for a cheap short time price and be ready to walk if she will not give you a resonable price. After you have finished fucking her you can negotiate for long time, if you think she is worth keeping.

That's just my opinion.

However, some guys will negotiate for LT and take the girl early in the day, like 4pm. Take her to the hotel, fuck her, take her out to eat and drink, then late at night fuck her again, then one more final fuck in the morning. This way he hopes to get better value. He gets 3 sessions.

Hong Kong guys have told me that they usually do it this way. Also, if he is joining friends at a ktv he will bring his girl with him. This way he does not need to rent an expensive ktv girl, he already has his pussy. He only needs to pay for his share in the room and drinks. Most ktvs do not object.

Good luck and I hope that helps you get better value.

Crazy Jim Wood
03-25-07, 00:03
Thanks to all who provided me hotel recommendations.

I looked and looked, and came up with the Holiday Inn Downtown, 585 Heng Feng Rd, with king-size bed, for 800 RMB. I just did not find anything in my original target 500-600 range.

It is near the station and claimed at least to have some other amenities that I needed (baby sitting, my friend has a kid and I have to get him away so I can have the breasts all to myself!).

I have seen some lower prices for rooms at this hotel, but they were single beds, smoking, or had some other question marks for me.

Has anyone out there had good/bad experience at the Holiday Inn downtown?

I will be bringing my entertainment so I am not too concerned about the P4P options, although I may partake of the massagee if I get the chance.

I am more interested in civilian amenities such as the breakfast buffet, etc.

Thanks again,
Jimbo

Traveler1234
03-25-07, 00:07
I've stayed at the Xujiahui area facility, located on Wan Ping S. Rd, the RMB$268 rooms with internet and excellent chinese bkft, close to shopping, and from others have written, close to some BBS and sauna.

168 is popular chain but rooms will vary with location. The facility I stayed at was quite large, and I'm sure GFE.

motel168.com

Westsider
03-25-07, 01:21
Indeed it is close to the rail station (< 5min walk). It consists of 2 tall towers separated by a city block, a little confusing at first. Your basic 4 star but rooms are a little dated and not recently renovated. Onsite FS massage available from the beauty salon. Convenient but very expensive (1600 RMB for one hour FS). Breakfast/Dinner buffets are good.

New Option - I have stayed 2 times at the Express by Holiday Inn which is 10 mins by taxi Northwest of station. Just opened so everything is new. Do not have King size beds, but do have Queen size beds. Stylist glass shower is nice. Very reasonable 398 RMB. Located on river at 843 Guangfu Xi Rd, phone +86-21-614-218-18. Appears to be girl friendly, no problems over 4 days. Good value, Free internet, 4 blocks from Metro CaoYang station, short taxi to Tongren Lu entertainment area.

Topcat 398
03-25-07, 13:30
Got down to Waves with four friends. Services is just as good as before.

However, the BIG diappointment is that they do not use the red rope anymore - instead they use a big ball. However one of my friends got they red rope when he requested from the girl he had.

The usual Manager is transfered to another new branch. This new Manager is a bald headed man.

In the past after your session you go to the relaxation room you are given Chicken GINSENG soup. But that is gone now only watermelons are served. Do you guys know that you are allow one beer each time you go there. Did not know until my friend how much they charge for a beer.

There were some 25 girls to choose from all out of states girls between 6 to 9.

We all had fun and I am sure other monger s will also. Have a happy time there.

Rayman
03-25-07, 17:11
I am now a long way from my old haunts of free shagging in china but I have struck up a net friendship with an attractive married lady living in Shanghai. 3 months ago she was a 'never been with a foreigner virgin' type, but i have watched her shagging developement and she seems intent in informing me of all her western conquests: teachers, businessmen, and younger students and asking my advice. Why does she fuck around? Well she does it to get revenge on her husband who apparently beats her. She shags on the first date but is apparently quite dominant in the sack.

Anyway, any of u interested in her contact details let me know. She is interested in anyone between 23 and 45. Pictures are of course a must so preference will be given for those with a proven track record (as i have of course, hehhehe)

Albert Punter
03-25-07, 17:18
Eric,

You may want to make some search about Shanghai Hotel sauna.
You will find explanation about special red ropes service they offer in that location.



Hello Guys,

Do you know if there is any actions in this hotel?

Also, what does "Red Rope Routine means?" - yeah, I know I have been through the RTFF, but what not able to find :-)

Thanks,

HotForever
03-25-07, 19:14
Hello Guys,

Do you know if there is any actions in this hotel?

Also, what does "Red Rope Routine means?" - yeah, I know I have been through the RTFF, but what not able to find :-)

Thanks,No action, but also no problems with joiners.

Wonderer
03-25-07, 19:26
Hi Santa,

Of course, I fully concur with your comments and conclusion. Probably you are right that it is better to negotiate only ST for an appropriate price and then extend for LT, if the "chemistry" is o.k.

So far, I had good and bad experiences with negotiating LT upfront. Several times (recently in Beijing) I had a perfect experience. She was from the Pig, and got completely horny. We enjoyed the whole night, and I will see her again when back in Beijing. Actually, most of the time, I have a pretty good gut-feeling whether or not the LT will be fine. But there were failures as well.

This time, it was a clear failure. I will do differently next time.

Actually, when I told her that I was not satisfied, she already started a big lament and made quite some noise. Staying at the Hilton, I was not too keen to get a lot of attention. So, I decided to bite the bullet and pay, though I knew it was cheating.

Conclusion: Whatever age and experience you have, there is still room for improvement.

HotForever
03-25-07, 19:37
Hello SK,

Could you please let us know the address of X-Ta-Sea in Shanghai?

Wonderer
03-25-07, 19:42
This was my first time at Wuzhong Lu 500. I had read quite a bit in the forum and wanted to check it out. So far, I had experience in Shanghai with the Waves and another sauna / FS place, as well as the Shanghai hotel. I have reported about all of them.

To make a long story short:

Wuzhong Lu 500:
*************
Easy to find, probably less than 2 km from Waves. When arrived, just go to the entrance at the backside of the building and take the elevator to the 4th floor.

The service attitude of the boys is a disaster. Instead of helping you, they send SMS. When you need them they walk away.

The place is pretty much run down. Everything looks a bit dirty and not very nice. The rooms have normal beds and are very small. Just a towel to cover the bed cover.

I had a line-up of about 8-9 girls. They all introduce themselves with name and origin. Quite pretty ones.

I have chosen #532, a cutie from Hunan. She was probably the shortest, but with very nice and slim body and a pretty face. Her tits were absolutely beautiful. Big and very well shaped, with big nipples. Unfortunately, she suffered from a cold, and therefore, could not really enjoy.

Price: 580 Rmb, for about 75 minutes.

Comparison with Waves:
******************
Waves has far, far more attentive service personnel. Sometimes it is almost too much, but the service attitude is much better than in Wuzhong 500.

The installations at the Waves are all absolutely new, and everything is nice and well equipped.

The rooms are bigger and make a very clean impression.

The girls are of similar quality as in Wuzhong Lu 500. You chose from a fish bowl.

Price 650 Rmb / one girl; or 1'100 Rmb / two girls; time about 75 to 90 minutes


Conclusion:
********
I will go to Waves again in the future (despite the perfect tits of tonight).

Wonderer - who also appreciates a good service

Texas Rob
03-25-07, 20:31
So I have been reading for a long time and wanted to add some value maybe. I just left the K-Ok Suana and it was my first time to do anything like that in China, very nice. The place is really nice. I really do not know my way around and can not even tell any cab where to take me.

I started at Park 97, that is a cool place minus all of the guards that walk around watching you like you are going to do something. There were a ton of foriegner guys and a good amount of local women. I'm not sure how you pick them up, if they are just normal girls, pro's, or what.

I started out heading to the Hilton which I knew would be easy to get too. Then I walked around till I found the Shanghai Hotel, walked in and the doors are closed with a sign in Chinese. Walked around and was lucky to find where North was otherwise I would have never have found K-Ok. Got there at 1: 00am, walked me in, said 700, paid, and walked me back. I had a friend who only wanted half but I was not sure how to tell the guy to charge him less. They walked us back, brought out 6 girls, asked for more and he said that was all. Chose a girl, went back and had my first time in a Soap Land place, WOW, cool stuff.

She started her oral action, finished and had some time so wanted to FS. I'm from Texas and she was like "oh no too big for me. Blah blah blah". (I'm not small but I'm not huge, too much information.) I took it as a way they try to get out of having to do FS, that is my two cents.

Either way, not bad for time. Thanks for all of the help and posts from others.

Sapperken
03-25-07, 22:39
Hello SK,

Could you please let us know the address of X-Ta-Sea in Shanghai?I couldn't tell you the full address but it is in the strip of bars on what I think is called Tong Ren Lu but if you RTFF I'm sure you will find what you need. What ever it is called it is not far from a couple of major expat hang-outs.

Good luck,

SK

Santa
03-25-07, 23:15
Hi Santa,

Of course, I fully concur with your comments and conclusion. Probably you are right that it is better to negotiate only ST for an appropriate price and then extend for LT, if the "chemistry" is o.k.

.

Yes, glad we agree. Also, I think it is better to let her think that you might take her for LT if the service is good, then she will try her best to give good service.

No need to lie to her, just let it be known that you want ST, and maybe you will do LT if she is good. And always be sure to agree that a blow job is included, etc.

If you agree to LT then be sure to negotiate what time she will leave your room in the morning, otherwise, you might find her already dressed and ready to go at 6:00 am.

No matter how much experience we have we all still make mistakes.

Gualtier Malde
03-26-07, 02:35
Hello SK,

Could you please let us know the address of X-Ta-Sea in Shanghai?

It is on Tong Ren Lu, near Yan An Lu.

GM

Guinness
03-26-07, 16:31
I was asked to move this to the Shanghai forum by a fellow member. If you already read this in the "General Info" section, my apologies.


I arrived in Shanghai early last night, a week earlier than I had planned. However, my whereabouts will remain confidential for obvious reasons (I wouldn't put anything past some of you)...too bad because I was looking forward to meeting a few of you.

As usual, after I got checked in and cleaned up at the hotel, I befriended the bellhop (w/$20usd) and asked if he could arrange for me to get a massage in my room. He looked at me and said "Chinese girl?" I just nodded and smiled. He asked me when I wanted her and I responded "Right now General Tsao!" But, instead of waiting in my room, I meandered into the lobby lounge to listen to the live music and have a drink. I was surprised to see that the bar had Chateau St. Michelle, Cabernet Sauvignon on the menu (my favorite vineyard from Washington State). I had a glass and relaxed to the music. Just as I finished my wine, the general found me in the bar and informed me that it was time for me to go to my hotel room. As I got off the elevator and approached my room, I noticed a beautiful 19-20 y/o, petite girl leaning up against my door. She was young and HOT, and this was definitely better than what I expected from Mr. Tsao. However, once we were in the room I was reminded why I love the PI so much; they speak the language. This girl spoke ZERO English. You see, I'm the kind of guy who likes to chit chat with them a little before the action begins. No chance for chit-chat with this one though.

The sex: Well, as we've all experienced, many times the hotter looking they are the less they perform in the sack. No exception here. This one was certainly nice looking but not very enthusiastic about sucking cock or doing multiple positions. In fact she nearly squirmed off of the bed when I tried to insert my thumb up her ass while in the doggy position. So, knowing her obvious dislike for anything "out of the ordinary", I decided to cap off the event with a "surprise" cum to the face. Here is how I did it; I was furiously pumping away missionary style and right before I shot my load, I pulled out, ripped off the condom, straddled her chest and proceeded to spray my load all over her face, neck and hands (her hands were trying to block the inevitable). After the act she mumbled something in Chinese and made her way to the shower to get cleaned up. When she emerged from the shower I handed her 500 RMB, I half way expected her to ask for more but she didn't. She just gave me a hug, a kiss on the cheek and walked out the door. Even though that LYFM spoke zero English, she was just what the Dr. ordered after a long 12hr flight.

BTW: I took some pics of her. I'll post em' when I return from my trip. Stay tuned more to come.

Guinness

Eric Vincent 75
03-26-07, 20:47
Hello,

I read somewhere in this forum that Yu Ping has moved.

The address I am having is the following:

Hotel Name : Yu Ping Hotel
Hotel Addr : 448 Zunyi Road (Chang Ning District)

Is it still ok? or do I have to update my bookmark?

Cheers,

Fitz1971
03-26-07, 22:15
I haven't posted many reports, but I must let everyone know of this experience. If you have hesitated visiting a sauna in china, let me tell you that you are missing a wonderful experience.

I recently was in Shanghai and I had read reports about sauna's and I decided to visit Waves Sauna. I visited on a Tuesday night around 11:30 pm. The manager asked me if I wanted regular massage or special massage. I opted for the 700RMB special massage. I was lead to the changing room and stripped down. I later found out that you can request a zip-loc bag to keep your valuables in (wallet, cell, etc...).

After showering, I was led upstairs to a sitting area, watched a little TV and had a beer and watermelon to snack on. After about 15 minutes I was led up another elevator to select my lady. The selection was about 15 girls ranging in my books from 6 to 8. I choose what I thought was the best looking girl. She said she was # 933 and her sister worked as well.

She led me to a small room and had me lie down. She mixed somekind of blue liquid with water in a glass. She continuously used this. She started by putting the liquid in her mouth and slurping/sucking on my back, ass and legs. This didn't do much for me, so I roller over. She graciously understood what I wanted. She sucked me like there was no tomorrow and then she started the red rope trick. After about 4 or 5 spins, I exploded in my lady. She swalled every drop.

She then got out her little kit and strapped a condom on me. We did every imaginable position for about 30 minutes and then I exploded.

We still had about 20 minutes of time left and I wanted to doggy her ass. She did not allow this. She said that some of the girls would (including her sister), but she wouldn't. I gave her a disappointed look and she said she would love to suck me again. She gave me another great 20 - 25 minute BJ until I exploded on her lips.

As she was cleaning up, I was going to throw the condom and wrapper into the trash, but she would not let me. I don't know if she has to turn this in or what. Does anyone know?

She then called in and the front asked me if I was satisfied and I gave a very good report of her.

Overall time with # 933 - 90 minutes
Looks - 8
Service 9.5

Next time I think I'll try 933 again with her sister.

Gualtier Malde
03-27-07, 05:56
So, knowing her obvious dislike for anything "out of the ordinary", I decided to cap off the event with a "surprise" cum to the face. Here is how I did it; I was furiously pumping away missionary style and right before I shot my load, I pulled out, ripped off the condom, straddled her chest and proceeded to spray my load all over her face, neck and hands (her hands were trying to block the inevitable). After the act she mumbled something in Chinese

I can see you are an absolute hit with the ladies. I have a pretty good idea what she mumbled in Chinese...

GM

Maxx01
03-27-07, 12:13
Hi Rob,

I'll be in Shanghai for 3 days arriving this Saturday. Wondering if you had any recommendations for some good bars. Last time I was in town I went to Bar Rouge which was good. Couple working ladies but mostly just girls looking for a good time. Not sure if its still hot.


TO anyone in town tonight there is a good party going on at Muse. Carnesseur too bad you are not in town i have some friends to introduce you to here. You've got to get rid of that KTV girl of yours....its definately time to expand. ANy fans of the kept relationship situation might want to come take a look, I'm told the best of the Chinese crowd is going to show. Also Fudan university is throwing a party tomorrow.

Red rope fans i found a place near HK plaza on Hua Hai Lu. Big Sauna sign outside, same alley as the Las Vegas KTV. Have not tried as massage is not my thing but who know....

Albert Punter
03-27-07, 15:42
recycling, my friend



... I was going to throw the condom and wrapper into the trash, but she would not let me. I don't know if she has to turn this in or what. Does anyone know?

Mighty Mark
03-27-07, 22:41
Albert, Fitz,

Funny you should ask about condoms in the bin as last week I had the same experience at another place, she insisted that she wrap it up, left the room with it, then came back..

Been there many times, with the same lady, first time ever done this.

Does seem strange, maybe some Chinese speakers out there can ask why

Mighty.

Cap Iota
03-28-07, 00:57
Hi Rob,

I'll be in Shanghai for 3 days arriving this Saturday. Wondering if you had any recommendations for some good bars. Last time I was in town I went to Bar Rouge which was good. Couple working ladies but mostly just girls looking for a good time. Not sure if its still hot.

If I was in town for only 3 days, I would make sure I hit spots that I have over a 50% chance of scoring. If you don't have a lot of game (or ur old and ugly), I would not hit up bars like Muse, Guandi, or even Bonbon. Well, maybe Bonbon since the all you can drink night does increase your gamesmenship...

Rouge is still ok, Attica, 97. And if you want to see some hot KTV eyecandy, I would hit up Absolute House after 1 or 2am. And if by 4am you're still without any company and you don't want to hit a BBS, goto Dragon.
cap iota

Sweetkisser
03-28-07, 02:12
Albert, Fitz,

Funny you should ask about condoms in the bin as last week I had the same experience at another place, she insisted that she wrap it up, left the room with it, then came back..

Been there many times, with the same lady, first time ever done this.

Does seem strange, maybe some Chinese speakers out there can ask why

Mighty.

They took it to the washroom and flush down the toilet. so there is no evident of sex taking place in the premis. Just in case the place is raided by the LE.

Big Bossman
03-28-07, 05:24
I am new here in Shanghai, getting a bearing for things in general.

Can somebody shed some light on why it costs 700 RMB (approx. $US90) for a girl here in Shanghai when it costs less in, say, Australia, $US65 for a Chinese girl? I just figured that being in a country of 1.6 billion folks that the supply and demand would tilt in favor of the customer. Or is it a matter of elevated prices for the foreigner? If that is the case, any locals/natives want to show me around to some spots where it would cost less?

Thanks in advance.

Shangguy
03-28-07, 05:37
I am a 21 YO guy born in shanghai, im currently live in Sydney but i do travel back to shanghai occationaly and i know my way around and also been to alot of massage places etc, i can speak fluent english, mandarin and shanghainese so if anyone wants a guide let me know and maybe we can arrange a time to go to Shanghai.

Levitian
03-28-07, 05:48
U can have it cheaper, much cheaper.

Normally, it is CNY 400 for ST, and in some places, even much less than this (e.g. the Village, where the standard is about CNY 150 for ST).

700 is normally for LT, or ST in specific establishments, e.g. saunas, where u also have to pay for the extras and the decor, and probably also for the safety.

Levitian

VinK
03-28-07, 07:41
Does anyone know if there is ANY action near the Ramada Plaza Pudong. My last couple of trips there were useless ...sighh Unfortunately have no control over where I stay as the office makes the reservation and they want me to stay walking distance to the office.

Do you know if their in hotel massage does extras?

Cheers

VinK
03-28-07, 07:46
Sorry fellow mongers

I was doing a cut and paste of some of my old posts and inadvertently pasted this one in a new post box rather than in a private chat box.

Apologies. Plenty of Pudong info available for others if you do a thread search.

Albert Punter
03-28-07, 14:25
Are we sure we are comparing same type of service ?

Normally you pay RMB 700 for all-night sessions whereas probably in Australia you pay a little less but for 1 hr only (as many shots as you can achieve but still 1 hr).
Here for ST, which may be 3 hrs down to 1 hr, you only pay RMB 300 or less.


I am new here in Shanghai, getting a bearing for things in general.

Can somebody shed some light on why it costs 700 RMB (approx. $US90) for a girl here in Shanghai when it costs less in, say, Australia, $US65 for a Chinese girl? I just figured that being in a country of 1.6 billion folks that the supply and demand would tilt in favor of the customer. Or is it a matter of elevated prices for the foreigner? If that is the case, any locals/natives want to show me around to some spots where it would cost less?

Thanks in advance.

Maxx01
03-28-07, 15:19
Hi Cap,

Thanks for the feedback. Don't usually have too many issues as I'm fairly young and well I've been told I'm not ugly. Curious as to your absolute house recommendation. Can I grab an address?

Will be arriving Friday night. If anyone is keen for a night out contact me. Cheers. Max.


If I was in town for only 3 days, I would make sure I hit spots that I have over a 50% chance of scoring. If you don't have a lot of game (or ur old and ugly), I would not hit up bars like Muse, Guandi, or even Bonbon. Well, maybe Bonbon since the all you can drink night does increase your gamesmenship...

Rouge is still ok, Attica, 97. And if you want to see some hot KTV eyecandy, I would hit up Absolute House after 1 or 2am. And if by 4am you're still without any company and you don't want to hit a BBS, goto Dragon.

Cap iota

Pleasure Dude
03-28-07, 22:06
I will be visiting Shanghai for a day or two early next month and will be interested in visiting a nice Sauna/massage parlor there. I have read through the board but I have seen so many names mentioned. In general, if you have to visit a Sauna in Shanghai, which one would you recommend with the best looking girl that also does FS? Since my trip is only two days, I can probably just visit maybe 2 at most.

Also, since I will be by myself in Shanghai and if I want to visit a KTV to check out the hot looking girls, will it be a problem? Money is not really an issue for me but I might look stupid going there by myself. Please advise. I am from New York and I can speak fluent chinese so language isn't a problem.

Thanks,

PD

Bonzo1
03-28-07, 23:43
(revised post)

Maoming lu: Maoming lu is not a widely reported place (/it's got a bad rep), but at this point is perhaps a "little known secret". I was there tonight and for mongering this street could be a gem in Shanghai. Here's why -- they are dieing for business! New York was my bar of choice tonight, but I stopped by several bars and most were welcoming me with open arms. New York was off the hook, with some pretty girls, but magnified 5 times by their eagerness!

Unfortunately, I did not stay there. As it was Wed., I had to make a stop by Zapatas, and then later tong ren rd. Once on TR rd I was literally mobbed by the X-ta-sea girls, but sadly when I declined to join them in their bar and said I really didn't want to get into a discussion about it, Helen (Lisa's sister, apparently) actually punched me (edited: more like a shove/punch...I was being a bit dramatic when I wrote this). Nonetheless, I was in utter shock, and two other girls ran up and apologized (and later spammed me with sms's apologizing further). Anyhow, the whole thing was a bit scary and reconfirmed what others have been telling me and what I already knew -- it's just not a safe place anymore. Too bad, because some of the girls that work there are quite fun (even if not the best lookers on the street).

Anyhow, when going to TR rd I'm sticking with Woodstock, Annie's Bar, Deja Vu, Manhattan's, and Judy's, but also gonna try Maoming lu a few more times and report back on whether it is really a diamond in the rough or this was just a lucky night.

Happy mongering.

- B -

Topcat 398
03-29-07, 00:02
After finding out that Waves does not provide the red rope service anymore Can fellow Mongers let me know the names and address of other Suana places that still have red rope service please. I will be in Shanghai again next month and will be entertaining some important client. Any help from fellow mongers will be deeply appreciated.

Cap Iota
03-29-07, 02:19
Hi Cap,

Thanks for the feedback. Don't usually have too many issues as I'm fairly young and well I've been told I'm not ugly. Curious as to your absolute house recommendation. Can I grab an address?

Will be arriving Friday night. If anyone is keen for a night out contact me. Cheers. Max.

Bldg 6,X2 Creative,20 Cha Ling Road
near Xie Tu Rd

Rob Hay
03-29-07, 03:38
Maxx

I was there Tuesday and its still hot mostly girls just there for fun not so many working girls but i did see the usually workers. But i think Muse is the club of the moment for local hotties. If you have time to work this is the place to go. I would say this is where the kept girls go...Guandi are more girls looking for their chance. There is model party and fashion show this Friday at Muse if you are in town.

Dadadidi
03-29-07, 04:03
Wednesday midnight went to the Pub for the first time, having researched the back postings here. New beer sign outside, doors lighted and unlocked, didn't bother to ring the bell but just went in, passed a sort of desk, and was greeted by a smiling, attractive woman who asked if i wanted a beer and motioned me to a booth. I didn't see any actual bar to sit at, just in the back there was a place for bottles. The place is clean, dark, comfortable, with really nice American jazz vocals playing, but quiet, at least without a lot of loud Westerners talking.

There were 2 guys there, probably the boss was one, four girls of which a couple were very pretty. They were smoking and talking in the middle booth and didn't pay any attention to me.

Xiao sat down and the touching started very friendly while I drank and we chatted in English, rather limited. I wanted to take my time but when I got hard we started talking prices. I didn't bother to negotiate since what she said was what I had read here, 300 BJ, 400 FS. She didn't mention it until later, but the beer is another 20 RMB, which I expected.

So she took me to a room through a door in the back to the side (I didn't see any stairs up), with a couch, dim light, and table, and she left for a few minutes to get her bag of equipment and I relaxed with the beer. When she came back we got undressed and spent a long time in BBBJ (hot water), me massaging her clit and she moaning, and a long time in various positions FS before we concluded with a nice CIM BBBJ. No kissing, all very clean. Bring your own condom, Chinese are too small for da didi, big little brother. There was no hurry to come, stay as long as you like. No problem with second pop, but I was ready for bed after one. No pressure to have a second girl like in the BBS, but I'm sure for variety I will do this soon.

When I inquired about LT takehome, Xiao suggested the next night, 700 RMB.
When I asked, she said they were open 7 pm to 3 am. I didn't talk with the boss on the way out, but they do have business cards in the lobby with the address and phone number. The actual name is the street address number plus Club (nothing about "Pub"). However, they said nothing about Club membership. BTW, the forum here lists two street addresses, the one ending in "1" is correct.

I will return, it is much better than BBS, especially if you go with a friend. But the supply of women seems limited so might get stale. And there isn't the shower and massage like at the soapland spas. But I can see why the Shanghai gang here likes it so much.

PM if you want to meet there, or are a newcomer and want more specific details--provided you have RTFF! We don't post the address or phone number, please, not to spoil a good thing.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Diet Cola
03-29-07, 13:39
Recently I visited China for the very first time with my wife and on our last night she suggested I have a massage. My wife is rather naive so I pointed out that a massage is not just a massage but she replied that we are staying in good hotel and I'm sure that sort of thing doesn't happen here. So anyhow I went along to the hotel's sauna area and enquired about a body massage. The sauna manager smiled and said "beautiful girl" so I knew straight away that something would be on offer.

I agree to 1 hour body massage for 680 RMB + 15% service charge and then get directed to a dimly-lit room and wait for about 10 minutes and suddenly a women in a uniform appears at the door looking rather official, holding some sort of receipt and what seems to be a KFC take-away bag. I put on my glasses to inspect her, the receipt and whether a spicy Zinger is within her bag. I ask who she is but she doesn't understand English so I shorten the question to pointing at her and saying "you give massage?" to which she replies in the affirmative.

She's not ugly, but my wife (also ethnically Chinese) who is 50 this year is better looking than this girl so I am not terribly impressed. However in fairness to the poor girl, she had made the best of what God gave her and this was supposedly a massage service, not an emporium of lust.

Anyhow I am sitting up on this massage couch and the lady removes a towel from it to reveal a hole and then points to it. I think to myself blimey, this is very odd and shift myself about 2ft and I’m about park my bits in this hole when she looks at me in surprise and despite the lack of a common language, she gesticulates that my head goes over this hole and we both burst out laughing.

Finally I am in position and for what seemed a long time she massages me very professionally. Boy she is very good and I am really enjoying this and she asks whether I would like another hour? I agree as I am enjoying her massage although the price is not that competitive. I try and negotiate but she refuses to budge and keeps saying the same price each time. On a couple of occasions I could have sworn she quietly farted but with my head lodged in this hole, I could have been mistaken.

In a room opposite I can hear an American guy enjoying a massage but unlike my girl, his can communicate in English quite well and it sounds like they are having a very good time. I think she left sauna area with him to go to his room.

About 45 mins into what I think is the 2nd hour, she gets me to turn over and gestures would I like to give her a tip for a hand-job. At this very point, she lets go with a ripper of a fart but she merely apologises and continues enquiring do I require this extra service. She wants around 500 RMB and although I am quite randy by this point, that's nearly the cost of an all inclusive buffet for 2 at the Shangri-La. I'm afraid she's not worth that so I decline her invitation and start getting up to go thinking that the 2 hours are about up as we've been discussing this for about 10 minutes. She then tells me that I have over 30 minutes left of the 2 hours which leaves very confused.

At the end of the message I go to the reception desk and complete a form to add the massage to my room account. I then get to see her in proper light and something suddenly dawns on me.

The night before I was walking to my room when I noticed a rather good looking woman in the very same uniform walking behind me. This woman was 9 where as my massage girl would struggle to rate as a 6 which is why I kept looking around at her. Oh another factor which got her noticed was despite her demure looks, her shoes made such a noise with each stride that it was quite unusual. As I entered my room she entered one 2 doors up and she gave me a really nice smile. As you probably tell, my life evolves around food and I just thought she was delivering a hot snack from one of the nearby eating establishments. I had noticed that many within a nearby mall advertised that they deliver to local hotels and the lass did seem to be looking at door numbers as if she wasn’t too familiar with this hotel.

So there you have it. One the most useless reports on Shanghi ever written but I just had tell the story of farting masseuse.

Guinness
03-29-07, 14:05
Sadly, I had to leave the friendly city of Shanghai because business opportunities have presented themselves in the gorgeous city of Kunshan.

I arrived in Kunshan yesterday afternoon and checked into my hotel. After getting cleaned up, I decided to go for a casual walk around the city. Before long I found myself on a street that had nothing but little stores, each with a different product for residential construction (cabinets, floor coverings, light fixtures, etc.). It was the Chinese version of Home Depot, I was amazed. However, directly across the street from "Home Depot" was a KTV bar and next door to that was a massage place called "Foot and Healthy Massage". I instantly thought to myself, a massage place right next door to a KTV bar must mean one thing. And a massage and bang session with a young local Kunshanian sounded like a great way to end my day. So, I walked into the place and there was a sign with various massages and the costs. The most expensive massage was called "OU" or "UO" Massage; it was only 198RMB so I just assumed there would be up selling for FS. I pointed to the 198 RMB massage and gave the girl behind the counter a "wink and a smile". She then proceeded to walk me up several flights of stairs and led me to a room with two massage tables, a chair in the corner and a TV. The girl incoherently mumbled something in Chenglish (a hybrid of Chinese and English), pointed at the chair in the corner and then left the room. I didn't see any red ropes hanging from the ceiling nor was I disrobed by a Chinese towel boy but I knew one thing for certain, I needed to get my clothes off. So, I disrobed and put all of my clothes on the chair in the corner. I was standing in the middle of the room fully naked when a cute young girl walked in carrying a platter of fresh fruit and a bottle of water. When she saw me standing there, she yelled something in Chinese and ran out of the room. She obviously did not expect to see a nude Caucasian with a full erection standing in the room. I was totally confused so I decide to lay down on the massage table to see what would happen next. About 5 minutes later a guy with one of those incredibly long fingernails on his little finger walked in and started yelling at me. He was not happy about something I did but since he couldn't speak any English, I have no idea what he was saying. However, I got the impression I wasn't welcome anymore. He finally left the room, I got dressed and left.

The moral of the story is; massage places next to KTV bars do not always mean what you think.

For those of you familiar with Kunshan, you'll recognize this place. It's only about 2 blocks away from Traders Hotel.

Guinness

Sweetkisser
03-29-07, 15:01
Went to Zapata last night for the lady's night but didn't score so left at 3AM. I was a bit horney so stop by Kang Ding Road BBS. Went to the one closer to Shaang Xi N. Road. There were 4 girls sitting at the bench. pick the one who had the largest rack, a D cup. We went to the little room upstair. the room doesn't smell like before but you can still hear the moaning next door. Before I lay down, she put on a disposible sheet which is a definite an improvement. the only thing is that sheet is not very big so can't really move around. Prices is the same as for the last 2 years I have been there. 150RMB for just a straight FS and 200RMB for BBBJ and FS. time limit is 40 minutes. Her name is Mimi and she works on the even dates. I don't think they have numbers. I am thinking of going back tonight as there be different set of girls working there tonight. not that I don't like Mimi but I will definitly want to try different variety.

Thor93
03-29-07, 17:25
Decided to go down to the Westin Hotel bar tonight for a drink. There were two working girls in the place. I started talking to one of them. She looked very nice and spoke decent english. It didn't take long for her to offer to go the room with me. I was curious about the price so I asked. She wanted $300 US.

Told her that was way too much and I would only be willing to spend a $100 on her. At first she reduced down to $250. Since I was flying to Bangkok in the morning, I was not too motivated. I repeated my limit again. She told me she would take a $150 as long as I bought 20 cartons of cigarettes from the bar and give them to her. The cigarettes would have cost me $100 from the bar.

After a while when I didn't budge on that, she dropped to $100 and the cigarettes. I admit I was tempted but she was asking more than I felt like paying and with Bangkok on the agenda the next day, why waste money. I guess if she ends up not finding anyone tonight, she might regret not taking the $100. As for me I will get a good sleep and be with the TGF tomorrow.

Texas Rob
03-29-07, 19:06
I have just left the Howard Johnston hotel on Nanjing road with Police helping me outside. I will write a very long post in the morning explaining every detail of what happened but for right now I must go to bed and try to relax.

There is a shop, directly behind the Howard Johnston. It has a neon sign that says "Coffee" with I believe the number is 547 or 517. Either way STAY AWAY. I was brought to this place by a street hustler on Nanjing saying the normal things to lure foreigners in. I followed him in with a friend of mine, walked up the stairs into one of the rooms.

Two girls walked in, not very pretty at all. I asked to see more, from the time we sat down in the room about 40 seconds passed and then all of the sudden we heard a LOUD! (and I mean loud) HELP! HELP! HELP! Coming from the next room. Let me explain this was not a simple help yell, it was someone yelling for their life. My friend of I immediately run out of the room, look to the room which has it's door open and see a 6-04ft tall blond haired, white male, with both hands on the frame of the door trying to get out, yelling. He had two men holding him inside. I was about 10 feet from him. I looked inside the room and say another man in the corner of the room with three men on top beating him. It was so hard for me to look into the room and see everything. I did see three men throwing fists into a man white man on the couch. From what I gathered it was the man's friend yelling while, his friend was being beaten by three men.

This is my first trip to China and am very un-clear of what and how things are done here. My friend and I quickly RAN! Down the stairs and out the doors. There was an Indian foreigner also running out behind us. We all stood outside yelling for them to bring the foreigners outside.

I pulled my cell phone out and yelled I was calling the police (I of course don't have the first clue who too so I was bluffing to scare everyone inside the place.) We three waited outside for about 5 min's with no one coming out. Some men from inside the place came out and said, relax everything is ok.

I then ran to the entrance of the Howard Johnston hotel, went to the front desk and told them a foreigner was being beaten and they needed to quickly call the police. The front desk man followed me outside back to infront of the "shop. "

We were quickly surrounded by 5-9 men telling us everything was ok, etc. I felt that I could not have helped the two men inside since I was out numbered by atleast 9 men, so the only way I could help was to call the police.

The police finally came, the they asked me to come inside with them (I really did not want too since I do not know if police in China are part of the crime rings as they are in other parts of the world.) I walked back inside with the hotels front desk man, the two police officers and walked into the room were I saw the beating happening. NOTHING was there. All of the workers acted like I was the crazy one and nothing had happened and I was drunk, which I had nothing to drink the entire night.

We all walked outside back to the inside the Howard Johnston hotel with the police man. The police man asked for a copy of my passport, which I gave him (now I wish I had not) and he asked which hotel I was staying in, which is one a few blocks away (which worries me as well). The men from the "shop/bar" walked into the hotel lobby asking what was going on. I at this point am even more scared since now I can see the other "hustlers" that were inside the bar waiting for me outside the hotel, the other two men walking into the hotel lobby, etc. I told the police that I was worried for my safety that all these men looked to be following me. I made it clear I wanted to go to the US Embassy at this point (just calling another bluff to scare them more maybe). There was a taxi waiting out front but had been there for a while and did not feel comfortable getting into that one. So with the Police holding the other men inside my friend and I ran into another cab that was just driving by.

I had the taxi drive away as fast as he could and just drive around far away. I just got back to my hotel which is one block away from this bar. I am very on edge and shacked up still.

I gave took a copy of my passport, the name of the hotel I was saying in, room number etc. Looking back now I feel that was NOT smart on my part but this all happened very fast.

I NEED HELP HERE. I am not sure if I need to check out of this hotel and into another one. If the police are corrupted like in other countries and I have major problems with people going to try to came after me. I am a very tall, blond haired, white, male who is easy to spot. I clearly will not be going down Nanjing road anytime soon.

My question is do I have serious problems or not to worry be/see the police are feared in Shanghai by these establishment?

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Thor93
03-29-07, 22:31
My first night in Shanghai I took a walk around the Westin. One of the street shrills came up to me and tried talking me into going to a place with him. He made the usual promiises of nice girls, etc. I was bored and decided to just take a look.

We walked on over to the Nanjing walking street and went up to the seventh floor in a place. I think the name was the Kaiser Club. I was going to walk out but on the menu the prices did not look too bad, so I decided to just have one beer. Big, big mistake.

They got me into a room and said 100 RMB for the room and 100 RMB for a girl to sit with me. I still thought not too bad and I know all about these things. I can control it. Another big, big mistake.

So I am sitting there with the girl thinking I might be foolishly running up a bill of about a 1000 RMB. In my head I was doing the math. Room = 100 RMB, Girl to sit = 100 RMB, beer = 45RMB, lady drink = 75 RMB and so on. Still manageable when a second girl comes in unsolicited.

I am there for maybe 10 minutes and the waiter keeps coming in with drinks. I keep telling the girls no dirinks, I will only pay for one drink each. But stuff keeps coming in.

Finally I say enough, and demand a bill. I had to get loud to get that to happen. The bill comes - they had jacked it up to almost 5000 RMB. I would not have thought it could be done that fast. Total time is only about 10 - 15 minutes. I have not even drunk half my beer.

I say I won't pay, but the room quickly fills with rather large guys. After a lot of arguing that goes nowhere, I tell them I will settle for 2000, but they won't agree. The offer a 10% discount. I figure no way are they going to let me walk out to there. So I pay up with a card, figuring I can dispute it later. I will let you know how that goes later.

I have traveled the world and been in lots of places, but I have never seen an operation as slick as this. I definitely feared I would be attacked if I did not settle up with them. I should have known better, and have no one to blame but myself. Still all I can say is that my enthusiasm for Shanghai is greatly diminished. This place is getting dangerous. It is too easy to run across the dark side here. I am no novice at this and they got me good.

Lao Ma
03-29-07, 23:21
Thor, Texas Rob, I am sorry you had problems, but for crying out loud - the most repeated advice on this forum is and always has been don't go with touts ! Again and again and again that has been shouted out to everyone.

Don't go with touts.


Don't go with touts.


Don't go with touts.


Am I making myself clear ? These operators prey on naieve foreigners, and guess what - you have both been naieve foreigners you both fell into their traps. THor, you are a senior member, shame on you - you should know better. Texas Rob, you evidently didn't read the damn forum, but regardless, you need to relax and calm down. There is no vast right wing conspiracy between these touts, the police, the hotel industry, and the taxi drivers. Taxi drivers very often park in front of hotels. Police need to take you passport information so they can investigate. If you want to move to another hotel that may not be a bad idea, as you seem to be scared shitless at the moment. One universal fact of predators is that when they get their prey scared and afraid, they gain the upper hand.

Good luck to both of you. I suggest your take the collective wisdom of the many long time veterans of the Chinese pay for play game, and stay the hell away from these touts.

Gualtier Malde
03-30-07, 00:04
...

I NEED HELP HERE. I am not sure if I need to check out of this hotel and into another one. If the police are corrupted like in other countries and I have major problems with people going to try to came after me. I am a very tall, blond haired, white, male who is easy to spot. I clearly will not be going down Nanjing road anytime soon.

My question is do I have serious problems or not to worry be/see the police are feared in Shanghai by these establishment?


Texas,

The police *always* know where you are staying. Remember when you check into the hotel and they ask for your passport? That information goes directly to the police station. So you didn't tell them something they didn't already know by giving them your passport and hotel info.

Lao Ma is right - the big thing is to never follow touts. Never. Ever. ESPECIALLY on Nanjing Lu. You are being led to a financial slaughter.

I don't think you have anything to worry about in terms of the police or someone coming by to "get" you. But if it eases your mind, find another hotel, and put it all behind you.

GM

Texas Rob
03-30-07, 02:06
So I agree that going with the guy was a bad idea but still it was very scary hearing a grown man yell for his life for help while seeing another man getting the living crap beat out of him before you eye's.

I was having a great visit and love the city but this bring to light a very real danger that I over looked.

I went to the K-OK spa/sauna the first day here and had a great time in soap land that gained from the forum. Either way, I do not know what happened in that room and who was "at" fault. But what I do konw is no one should be beat like I was seeing happen.

Do these places fear the police or no?


Texas,

The police *always* know where you are staying. Remember when you check into the hotel and they ask for your passport? That information goes directly to the police station. So you didn't tell them something they didn't already know by giving them your passport and hotel info.

Lao Ma is right - the big thing is to never follow touts. Never. Ever. ESPECIALLY on Nanjing Lu. You are being led to a financial slaughter.

I don't think you have anything to worry about in terms of the police or someone coming by to "get" you. But if it eases your mind, find another hotel, and put it all behind you.

GM

Blacklisted
03-30-07, 06:05
Everything here is linked, pay offs and scams and pay for play and bars and.... you name it.

There is no way these scams could exist for so long without protection on one level or another.

However, as the guys say; chill.

It's much more likely that they are satisfied that you are scared already and will not follow up any further. They won't hunt you down and whack you, cause that would mean real headaches for everyone involved.

From the stories I've read on the board, everytime one of those sleazy little punks come up to me asking if I want a sexy massage with pretty girls I feel a rush of anger toward them, cause I know about what they do to those that follow along.

Be careful out there.

Mock A Bee
03-30-07, 08:11
Thor93,

Actually I am surprised you even thought twice about going with her at $100usd plus a carton of rip off hotel cigarettes.

Most WG's plying their trade in International hotels will always ask for much more than the street price. They assume you are a rich businessman, don't know the market price, can't be bothered with checking out the local bars, and know that the little head often takes over for the big head.

Newbie tourists do the same thing when shopping for souvenirs.

Good luck in Thailand!

MAB



Decided to go down to the Westin Hotel bar tonight for a drink. There were two working girls in the place. I started talking to one of them. She looked very nice and spoke decent english. It didn't take long for her to offer to go the room with me. I was curious about the price so I asked. She wanted $300 US.

Told her that was way too much and I would only be willing to spend a $100 on her. At first she reduced down to $250. Since I was flying to Bangkok in the morning, I was not too motivated. I repeated my limit again. She told me she would take a $150 as long as I bought 20 cartons of cigarettes from the bar and give them to her. The cigarettes would have cost me $100 from the bar.

After a while when I didn't budge on that, she dropped to $100 and the cigarettes. I admit I was tempted but she was asking more than I felt like paying and with Bangkok on the agenda the next day, why waste money. I guess if she ends up not finding anyone tonight, she might regret not taking the $100. As for me I will get a good sleep and be with the TGF tomorrow.

Mock A Bee
03-30-07, 08:19
I agree to 1 hour body massage for 680 RMB + 15% service charge and then get directed to a dimly-lit room and wait for about 10 minutes and suddenly a women in a uniform appears at the door looking rather official, holding some sort of receipt and what seems to be a KFC take-away bag. I put on my glasses to inspect her, the receipt and whether a spicy Zinger is within her bag. I ask who she is but she doesn't understand English so I shorten the question to pointing at her and saying "you give massage?" to which she replies in the affirmative.


For 680RMB without extra tip, you should have gotten FS from a true hottie. Or had access to a very decent sauna with FS. Next time refuse her if she is ugly, and demand a new girl or just pass.

Good luck next time!

MAB

Albert Punter
03-30-07, 10:52
Surely what happened to you and Texas Rob scare, but I disagree when you say



my enthusiasm for Shanghai is greatly diminished. This place is getting dangerous. It is too easy to run across the dark side here.


I have extensive travelling/mongering experience, on all five continents, like you and I have been ripped off too in early days.
However, let me tell you that this city is safe compared to other locations.
Here I feel very comfortable walking at night even in side streets. It seems this is general feeling by reading posts in this thread. General security has been discussed many times already.

Obviously you have to BEWARE OF TOUTS.
This is a warning that you read from time to time.
Just refer to this exhaustive post from Santa which is in ROD as well
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=445901&postcount=1077

However, please consider Santa’s warnings are applicable ALL areas. Even in “civilized countries” you can be ripped off or you can find yourself in unpleasant situations like the one you experienced.

Why are you trapped ?
Basically it is lack of knowledge or lack of experience. Or simply your fault, or your self-confidence



I know all about these things. I can control it.


and very honestly you admit



I should have known better, and have no one to blame but myself.


Again I am sorry for what happened to you and Texas Rob, and I strongly hope that all of us who RTFF can use this as a further learning.

Ace Gallant
03-30-07, 11:31
Texas,

The police *always* know where you are staying. Remember when you check into the hotel and they ask for your passport? That information goes directly to the police station. So you didn't tell them something they didn't already know by giving them your passport and hotel info.

GMA little correction:

The scanning of your passport actually let the Police verify your records only. It is a requirement if you stayed in that Hotel for the first time. It is not a requirements everytime you stay there. The Poilce does not want to know which hotel you are staying in. The record that the Police keep is for them to identify you in case you get into trouble.

The hotel, for convience purpose, just scan your passport anyways, they do not bother to check whether they had done it before or not.

AG

Ace Gallant
03-30-07, 12:32
Fellow Mongers,

It is end of the month (pay-day), there is a clean up operation ongoing now for Saunas. A few of the major one mentioned on this board had been affected already. Of course this includes 500 Wuzhong. 2 days ago there was a minor raid conducted there and 5 girls were taken away. Names and IDs of the customers were recorded down by the police but fortunately they were all foreigners and thus been let off.

So please excerise caution when you are visiting Saunas during these few days.

AG

Ace Gallant
03-30-07, 12:34
Don't go with touts.

Don't go with touts.

Don't go with touts.These is the number one rule in any country.

Never believe and never go with the touts.

AG

Albert Punter
03-30-07, 13:11
Just to prove that scams are possible everywhere, I had made some search in the forum and found following examples of different types and seriousness

Brazil
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=565331&postcount=42

Germany
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=565988&highlight=scam#post565988

Hungary
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=544351&postcount=470

India
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=575424&postcount=739

Peru
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=576308&postcount=2740

Philippines
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=579518&postcount=2320

Russia
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=572150&postcount=1080

Thailand
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=577817&postcount=1703

Ukraine
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=577260&postcount=2726

AsianLover
03-30-07, 14:42
went to joy massage which is off of nanjing road, just behind the howard johnson hotel. there are several places along the street offering foot massages, body massages, etc. in the studio things are legit. i had a foot massage and for 60 rmb which was relaxing, therapeutic and well worth it. however, duing the massage the girl kept asking to do take out at my hotel. she asked for 400 rmb for a hot oil body to body massage in my hotel where she would be naked. being in china, i bargained her down to 300 rmb. anyhow, she comes up to my room and gives me a good hot oil massage, but she stayed fully clothed. this was different from what she said at the studio. when questioned, she now spoke little english. having been duped, i just sat back and enjoyed the oil massage. just wanted to let you guys know to stay away from joy massage.

Asiansing
03-30-07, 17:59
I called a gal who works in shanghai hotel and i was told that they would be reopening the massage center within a week, latest next saturday.

Well, wish a fellow monger who lives near by could check out if this news is true. Best try it on next saturday.

For Me, sorry guys, i live way out in Pudong. Too far for MI :>

Thor93
03-30-07, 18:06
I have to confess I often play around with the touts. Consider it a game, sort of like running up to the edge and looking over. Usually it is just a matter of letting them walk me around and show me various places. I have even managed to get touts in Japan to twice pay me money to go into a place. My intention in this case was to just take a look and leave. For some stupid reason I decided to stay.

But the place looked ok, had a decent crowd, and I thought I knew exactly what the charges were. Before I did anything I went over all of the prices with them. I specifically said I was only paying for one drink for the girl. There was no problem on the bill except for the drinks they snuck in while the girls had me distracted. I very clearly never ordered the drinks and when I realized what they were doing, immediately stopped it, but the damage was done.

As for not feeling as safe in China, you have to remember I have been going there for over 15 years. The place has really changed. I don't feel unsafe on the street, but the scams and the beggars are really starting to get out of hand.

As for the high price in the hotel bar, I know that is normal but that has also gotten out of hand. I wanted to find out the price and I did. I might have taken her for $100 but that was the limit.

All in all the advice given is good. Stay away from touts. And know that in a 5 star hotel working girls will be demanding top dollar way out of proportion with elsewhere.

Ace Gallant
03-30-07, 19:47
But the place looked ok, had a decent crowd, and I thought I knew exactly what the charges were. Before I did anything I went over all of the prices with them. I specifically said I was only paying for one drink for the girl. There was no problem on the bill except for the drinks they snuck in while the girls had me distracted. I very clearly never ordered the drinks and when I realized what they were doing, immediately stopped it, but the damage was done.Robbers do not have the words "I am a Robber" written on his forehead. Place that looks OK does not means the people oeprating it is OK. Places with a decent crowd does not means that those decent crowd had been ripped off or they are paying for the same prices as you did.

In a foreign land it is always good to have friends to watch your back for you. Hunt in a pack. If you don't have friends, you will have to be more observant and watch out your own.


As for not feeling as safe in China, you have to remember I have been going there for over 15 years. The place has really changed. I don't feel unsafe on the street, but the scams and the beggars are really starting to get out of hand.You eat today does not means you don;t need to eat tomorrow. The car you drove is running on Gasoline today does not means that cars will still be running on Gasoline tomorrow. Things changes fast. However, I felt that Shanghai security is improving and is much better now than before.


All in all the advice given is good. Stay away from touts. And know that in a 5 star hotel working girls will be demanding top dollar way out of proportion with elsewhere.Beers cost 50 RMB in top class restaurant while it cost 7 RMB from the Super market.

AG

Knut34
03-30-07, 21:57
I was in waves for a second time recently. Since I do not speak the language I like to go there. It is safe and some of the staff speaks english.

I picked a very young and beautiful girl. After she did the regular routine with a nice but very short rimming. She sucked me for a while. Then I took her from behind, but she was not too happy about that. I think she wanted to tell me that it hurts. So I signaled her to suck me. I figured she she knew that I was going to finish in her mouth. She did not watch out and chocked, jumped off the bed and caughed for 5 minutes. I said sorry and I think she was not mad.

Is CIM not common in Waves and the oter Sauna places? Given the price tag it should be included

Sweetkisser
03-31-07, 00:01
I think you are right about supply and demand. China might have a bigger population than Australia but there might be more Australian women willing to provide the service than Australian men who are willing to pay for them so more competition lead to lower prices. In Shanghai there are over 20k expat which most of them are male, all wanted a piece of Chinese pxsxy regardless if their wifes are here or not. So you do the math.



I am new here in Shanghai, getting a bearing for things in general.

Can somebody shed some light on why it costs 700 RMB (approx. $US90) for a girl here in Shanghai when it costs less in, say, Australia, $US65 for a Chinese girl? I just figured that being in a country of 1.6 billion folks that the supply and demand would tilt in favor of the customer. Or is it a matter of elevated prices for the foreigner? If that is the case, any locals/natives want to show me around to some spots where it would cost less?

Thanks in advance.

Bonzo1
03-31-07, 00:03
First off, need to follow up on my Maoming lu reporting. After a long night out at some private parties, I hit Maoming lu around 1am to see how it would be going there a bit later than before. Initially I thought I might reverse some of my earlier impressions, since "the ratio" in several of the bars was downright awful (i.e. about 2 lao wai's for every one girl). I wandered back towards New York and ended up having a great time there again (guess I just kinda dig this place, and the girls there, though not the best looking, are quite friendly and eager to please). I left at closing time, 3am, alone by choice. I figure I'll keep trying this street and keep reporting, as I'm really not sure yet whether this is a diamond in the rough or just a change of pace from Tong Ren lu.

The rest of this is just a story ... not very informational, but since it was such a great night I figured I'd share.

As I was going home I sms'd one of my regulars (side note: this girl started out a bit rough and I even had dropped her at one point, but she is turning out to be a real champion recently...this story is case in point). She messaged back that she wanted to meet. I was still up for some dancing and fun, so she suggested we go to Armani. We got there around 3:30, and the place had thinned out a lot but still some hot talent there (purely FYI). I bought a bottle since I figured I'd return, and her friend started up with DFK and some hot grinding dancing, which my regular assured me was fine (though also busting my balls a bit .. smart girl) and I could just take her home alone tonight as it was her "time of the month" and she was just out to show her friend who just got into town around Shanghai. No threesome chance this time, but her friend looked really cute and had a very unique style (hard to explain, until I found out later that she is 19 ... so know I realize her style is simply that of a young, happy, fun, and eager inexperienced girl who trusts her friend, i.e. not scared). So, after some obligatory dice and goofing around, we left.

Once at my house I realized this was one of those extremely rare situations where the girl was actually a LOT hotter than I first thought. About 5'2" (I actually prefer the shorter girls), tiny waist, at least C+ cup (borderline D, and no sagging), great ass, pouty lips (this part I knew from earlier), and overall as cute and hot as she could be! Even more to my surprise and better, while a bit shy in the bar, she went absolutely nuts in my house, tearing my clothes off and all out attacking me, and then screaming "hao shu fu" and "more more more" (about the only English she could speak) during sex. After a while she (quite forcefully) rolled me over so she could fuck me as hard as she could (I was being a bit too gentle for her, though really not overly gentle...she was just as wild as I've ever been with, and I was almost laughing when I thought that this was pretty much like a Japanese porn movie with the roles reversed). Suffice to say this was a really rare kind of experience for me in Shanghai...not just GFE, but porn-quality sex, smoking hot girl, + GFE.

I'm learning that my regular is turning out to be a fantastic "friend". Not only is she a stunner herself (solid 9, possibly hotter than tonight's girl in some peoples' eyes, just a bit more slender and I prefer more curvy) and a very fun girl to hang with and get down and dirty with, but also she's hooked me up with one hot friend for an amazing threesome and one unfortgetable girl (tonight) in two weeks. I'm not really sure how this came about, so no great advise to give for finding someone like her (and sorry, but I don't wanna share this contact right now). I guess the only thing I'm at all concerned about is if she gets too clingy (showing slight signs of it, like asking to be my steady gf and complaining when I don't call her for a week or more, though mitigated I guess by the fact that she keeps introducing friends to me...??).

Perhaps AG or some other guys who are more experienced than me in this area have some advice for how to maintain such a relationship without creating unwanted problems??? Should I be going for a "kept relationship" here? If so, how to negotiate that? FYI - though my regular has offered to be a freebie I have never gone down that road and don't plan to. So far this is the best strategy I can think of to keep things unproblematic.

Ok, it's a long story without a lot of useful info, but I'm so wired by tonight's girl that I just had to share it.

Finally going to bed. Happy days!

- B -

Matsu69
03-31-07, 19:06
I have been to China on several occasions, but never knew where/how to find much action, as I cannot speak the language. I usually stay at the Hilton and after reviewing the board prior to my last trip; I decided to try my luck in the Spa at the Shanghai Hotel. As reported on the forum, the Shanghai Hotel is located on the opposite corner of the same block as the Hilton. Literally a 5-minute walk and 2 left turns out the front door and you are right there. Could not have asked for anything more convenient.

As previously reported here, the entrance was tyical. Go to Floor #2. The Manager asked if I wanted the “special massage”. I was pointed to the locker room. From there into the bath area where I took a Sauna, got a defoliation rubdown and took a shower.

After that I was shown into the lounge where I ordered a Coke. Then, I relaxed and watched TV until one of the attendants came over and asked if I wanted a massage with a girl. I nodded enthusiastically, and was shown through the halls to a room full of about 20 girls; most of which fell into the 5-6 category, although there were a few lookers that I would give a 7.

There was one stunner (one of the 7’s) who caught my eye. I asked, “Who can speak English?” One of the 5’s in the corner answered that she could, but the stunner just stared at me intently. Honestly, the 5 didn’t turn me on, and I figured I would go for the stunner regardless of language. I figured we wouldn’t be doing much talking anyway.

Boy did I make a good choice. She grabbed my arm and held it like she didn’t want to let go. I soon discovered her English was better than most of the “bilingual” people I work with on a daily basis. She had a pretty good sense of humor, and was really animated.

We went into the room and she was hugging me and telling me how sexy I was. I’ve been to P4P before, so I’ve heard these lines before. But either this girl was a really good actress or she was genuinely into me.

We talked for a few minutes and she left the room to get a bag of supplies, and a cup of ice. She helped me lose my PJ’s and she took her clothes off as well. Wow! Perfect little body 5’4” abut 95# with nice round natural C cups, I was really liking this.
She started off by having me lie on my stomach. She used mouthfuls of warm water to give me the sexiest cat-bath I have ever had. Then she flipped me over onto my back and continued the bath. By now I had an absolute raging hard-on.

Then came the fire/ice treatment. She took me right to the point where I was going to come at least 10 times. Right when I was ready to explode she would switch to either hot or cold to stop me. God this was absolutely the best BBBJ I have ever had.
She used the Velvet rope that the place is famous for, and that was pretty good as well. I was more impressed with the acrobatics than anything else.

After a few minutes, she asked I wanted to fuck. I told her that it was her choice, however she wanted to finish me off was fine. Well, she couldn’t cap me fast enough. As she was putting the rubber on, I was fingering her - she was sopping wet. She was so wet, that the juices had actually flowed down her thighs and her legs were glistening.

Then she laid me down and climbed on top. Slow at first – she was really tight. She wanted to feel me deep, but had trouble taking it all the way at first.

After a few minutes I sat up and she wrapped her legs around my waist. I started pulling her hips into me, and that is when she came the first time. Her body started shaking and then she let out this guttural moan and I could feel her squirt as she convulsed on my cock.

I stopped so she could rest for a second. She didn’t want to stop and motioned for me to continue. So I really started to grind our hips together – and she came/squirted again.

By now the towel was really soaked, so I repositioned to the other end of the table and got on top of her – missionary. I knew my time had to be getting short, so I really started working it fast and deep. I buried my cock in her for the final time and really ground myself deep as I started to come. When I started to grind, she came again for the 3rd time.

We laid there for a few minutes completely exhausted and soaked. She told me she usually doesn’t come when taking care of customers, and had never squirted before.
She looked up at the clock and said something in Mandarin. I looked up and realized that we were 30 minutes over time. She said it was no problem, and called the front and told them we had finished a while ago.

She told me if I ever come back to please ask for her again. I did – it was just as good the next night.

Best BBBJ of my life, and a world class lay with a multi-orgasmic squirter to boot – total damage 750RMB. What a bargain. I will definitely be a repeat customer.

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Shanghai Jack
04-01-07, 01:20
Fellow Mongers,

It is end of the month (pay-day), there is a clean up operation ongoing now for Saunas. A few of the major one mentioned on this board had been affected already. Of course this includes 500 Wuzhong. 2 days ago there was a minor raid conducted there and 5 girls were taken away. Names and IDs of the customers were recorded down by the police but fortunately they were all foreigners and thus been let off.

So please excerise caution when you are visiting Saunas during these few days.

AG
I heard from my friends that this is connected to the new Shanghai administration trying to show everybody that they are in charge... I hope that this is not true - or that they also have their price - and the situation gets back to normal soon.
SJ

Ace Gallant
04-01-07, 06:31
I heard from my friends that this is connected to the new Shanghai administration trying to show everybody that they are in charge... I hope that this is not true - or that they also have their price - and the situation gets back to normal soon.

SJSJ,

Not doubting your information, but...

No, this is not true. I don't know how "connected" is your friend to the Administration but the New Administration had been around for the last 9 months. Why do they need to wait till now to act? Remember back in June last year, the Chief of Shanghai was replaced and questioned for Corruption?

On the other note. As I said, the raids are conducted on a smaller scale. This is to do with the constant "Clean Up" (of course "pay day"). However there are pressure coming from Central Government (Beijing) to put all these business in a order matter. So we would expect the "Clean Up" operations to continue for sometime until the 2008 event is over.

AG

Doctor A
04-01-07, 07:01
"I have been to China on several occasions, but never knew where/how to find much action, as I cannot speak the language. I usually stay at the Hilton and after reviewing the board prior to my last trip; I decided to try my luck in the Spa at the Shanghai Hotel. As reported on the forum, the Shanghai Hotel is located on the opposite corner of the same block as the Hilton. Literally a 5-minute walk and 2 left turns out the front door and you are right there. Could not have asked for anything more convenient......"

Matsu

Did you just have this fine experience at the Shanghai Hotel yesterday or was it a while back? Just trying to find out if they have reopened yet or not. Thanks.

Doctor A.

Sebastian My
04-01-07, 08:52
JJ Mahoney in the Rainbow Hotel and the very average Club de Eagle (as well as the Korean KTV one level up) in the Galaxy Hotel were all closed last weekend. It has been a while since i frequented those places so it seems the action has moved elsewhere. JJ's is a specific loss as it tended to be the closest thing to the Passion Bar i could ever find in Shanghai. Expensive, but the girls tended to be model quality and had a high level of skill.

On the upside Bourbon Street had a rather large supply of girls on Friday evening, after midnight. I tend to find you need to get to this place 1-2 hours before it closes to get a good choice and price. Unfortunately i can't say any were model quality, but i noticed they all had good attitudes. They all seemed to be local shanghai girls - which i found a bit surprising. Price seemed a bit lower than usual.

I also saw a Pillippino Katoey at Manhattan on TongRen Lu - i though she was thai initially - gorgeous, but of no value to me at all unless you are into that thing. Manhattan seemed to have a rather good supply of Philippine girls, nothing spectacular but all with nice attitudes.

MaoMing Lu seems to get smaller every time to go their, but i noticed the rather conservative singers and bands i saw last year have been replaced by scantily dressed dancers – which, if you are by yourself, rather nice to watch while passing the time away. Its still my favourite, but only because its the first bar street i ever frequented in china, back in 1998, thus i have pleasant memories. All i can say is it has changed a lot.

Timefor
04-01-07, 14:24
Had an interesting night in Shanghai, after being in China for a week, my last night was in the city and I wanted to make sure it was memorable as not sure when I will have the chance to visit again.

The early part of the evening was a dinner with friends, but got clear of this later in the night, and after some research on the forum ended up in Tong Ren Lu.

The street was quite busy, and based on the previous reports ended up in Manhattan. This was absolutely packed out on a Friday night. I got there about 1:30am.

Some girls at the bar were pretty forward when I was ordering my first drink, but I turned them down as I wanted to have a good look round before picking on someone for the night, so I got my beer and headed to towards the back of the bar. The clientele were a mixture of western men and largely Chinese women, though there were a couple of western women, one a very cute blond who even spent some of the night dancing on the pole at the end of the bar. Unfortunately she was clearly with somone else - and of course I am in China so should sample from the local delights.

When I got to the back of the bar there was a stunning, slim, girl in a halterneck top. In a classic case of not being forward enough I did not approach her since she was dancing with another, later I spotted her dancing with someone else, and having realised that she was just fishing for someone herself, she then disappeared. Not sure if she was taken or left alone. By far the best looking - lesson learnt - make the move and don't miss the chance!

I spotted another beauty, short, but in a lovely camisole top, that really suited her figure. Unfortunately she did not seem to be looking for someone to spend the night, so lucked out on number two....

In the end I found a very attractive, tall girl, had a few dances and invited her back. She was quite slim and had highlights in her hair. She started out asking for 2000RMB for the night!! After choking and clearly showing my shock we eventually arrived a figure of 800RMB - in the end this was too much!

We got back to the hotel about 3:30am and set to, and this is where things started to go a bit wrong. She was quite easy to get aroused, and was quite noisy as I was stroking or licking her ****, but she would not let me finger her inside - saying it caused her pain. She did lick being nibbled and her tits being sucked. She was clearly not a pro. She was also not in the slightest bit interested in BJ - covered or not. I forced her to suck me once, but it was not worth the effort and I gave up!

After I put my hat on she was quite interested in me taking her deep, but again only in a sort of sideways position - it's probably got a name but it's new to me! Again she was very vocal, and the only advantage of the position was that I could stroke her clit at the same time. I had quite a bit to drink that night so I was in her a long time, she either acted well, or really came twice.

Disappointingly she did not really want to try out any different positions, and any form of cowgirl was completely out of the question.

Eventually gave in and just came up her as we were. After this decided it was time for some shut eye.

In the morning I had to elave to catch flight, so I cunningly set and early alarm, and after only 40 minute sleep off it goes! Right I think lets sort this girl out! Well I woke her by stroking her clit again, she was quite responsive and this time let me get a finger inside her - but again only for a minute before it "too painful" Went down on her and DATY - she seemed to appreciate this, but again would not let me finger her too, she did like me pressing against her ass with my fingers though - again this is as far as she would go.

Put the hat on again, and plunged into her - again in this side position which she seemed to enjoy, more opprtunity to finger her, she was actually quite tight so could not slip a finger in her too. Again she seemed to come. I pumped her hard, and then again tried to get her in cowgirl, but to no avail. Settled for coming up her in the sideways position she seems to like.

Ended with a hug - which she seemed to appreciate.

Overall a disappointing night for my last night in China.

Interestingly I had done my homework on the board beforehand, and had planned a few stops, but given my work constraints only sampled the top of the list. TPTCNBN was at the bottom - perhaps it is sound advice to start at the bottom!

Girl was called Lindah - I think - As ever had chance to fuck beautiful woman, but in this case only just worth it.

Neuromancer
04-01-07, 15:13
Went to Yi Ji Sauna tonight. 209 Wulumuqi Road (got the address from this forum). My mandarin is not very good, but shouldn't the name be Jia Yi? Not going to go into too much detail, since don't have a whole lot to add to what's already been posted. Just posting a few thoughts on the experience.

The place was sort of interesting. Go up to 5th floor (they have to send the elevator down since you can't call it from the ground floor). Walk in. Take off your shoes and then go into another room where you change clothes. At this point, I'm thinking. Hmmm, sort of strange, no lockers, no sauna room. Looked sort of like a place where you get a foot massage. Change into PJs and the manager comes in and asks if I'm ready. At this point he showed me that the dresser was basically your locker (never experienced this type of layout). It was something like 2pm or so, so I guess there was no wait. Took me to another viewing room. Got the fishbowl. Strange thing is that this was the first fishbowl viewing that I've experienced in China. Five girls came out. Asked the manager if there were more to choose from, and he said yes. But I made the mistake of saying that I would like to first review the rest of the lineup, but if there was nothing else which I liked, I would take #29. After saying this, he changed his tune and said that there were no more girls to view. Can't complain though. Pretty attractive, maybe see cup, about 5' 5" or so. From Sichuan. Face about a 6 to 6. 5, body about a 7 to 7. 5.

Led me off to the room. And things became a little more familiar. Have to say that interior decoration of the place is not bad. Had the soapy massage. Actually, sort of like K-Pressure back in HK, except you get a lineup and the one that I chose was more attractive than any I've seen back at K-Pressure. Plus facilities are much nicer.

Got a pretty good deal now that I think about it. Price was RMB700 (K-Pressure is 480 if I remember correctly), and got to shoot twice. First time was with her hand/mouth. It's been a while so shot pretty quickly. She said it was still early (ie. Haven't used up much of the allotted time) and asked if I wanted to go again. Normally, it's pretty difficult for me to shoot twice in such a short amount of time. But have to say. This girl was very skilled. Got me hard again and managed to take the second shot.

All in all. A very satisfying experience. Sometimes its just nice to know what you're going to get and you get exactly what you're expecting.

Working backward to the two nights ago. Maybe it's just me, but I really hate Malone's. Was dragged there by some buddies. And managed to stay there for about 10 minutes before wanting to leave. Strange?

Last night went to a place called Muse near Xikang Road/Yuyao road. Liked this place MUCH more than Malones. Maybe cause it's more of a Chinese hangout than Laowei hangout. A friend of a friend was picking up the tab. So didn't cost a cent. Even had a few chickens at the table. Otherwise known as "party girl rentals". Wanted to take one of them home, but I guess I've got no game. Plus my other buddy was drunk off his ass. I think they must've dropped something in his drink or something because I don't think that he drank that much. Anyway. Spent the whole evening trying to convince my friend that NO. HE IS NO SHAPE TO DRIVE HOME. Took a while, but he eventually passed out. By the time he woke up, it was 5am and was pretty ok to drive home so let him drive home and I went back to sleep.

Wilde. If you're reading this, no, I'm not going to Nanjing this week. LOL. She gave me a fake number (for China). Good thing that I got that last freebie before she left HK.

Thanks for your advice.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Ricky Zapatero
04-01-07, 15:30
Hi all,

It is my first time traveling to Shanghai for 4 days over a weekend in April. I know some of you are quite familiar with Shanghai, so I am hoping I would get a one stop shop here in terms of info on the scene there.

Any info on the best spots for the top-of-the-line Chinese WGs? I generally prefer escorts or picking a girl from a disco/bar, so any advice where to go for high-end WGs?

Also, I am not too fond of the average Asian look, so I am a bit picky. Any recommendations on where to find Slavic/Russian girls in Shanghai?

Finally, as I am still young and capable of one or two freebeis, any idea where the best places for good looking freebeis would be?

I am hoping not to waste my time bar hopping, so your advice would be appreciated.
Thanks,

Shanghai Jack
04-01-07, 17:33
Went with a friend to the Ji Yuan Soapland and everything was business as usual. We asked about problems, but the manager said 'no problems'. What else should he say... There were not many customers, so after 10 minutes wait we could choose our girls. Selection was good, 15 - 20 girls, all quite nice. I chose number 30 from Haerbin. Not as tall as the Haerbin girls usually are, but quite beautiful with a great body. No English at all but good attitude.
The action was great as usual and she was very very tight, maybe the tightest xiao mei mei I had so far. She did not complain about the size but I saw her stressed out face so I took it slow and easy. Maybe too slow and easy so I asked her to finish BBBJ / CIM what she happily accepted.

As we still had 15 minutes, she performed a little lap dance for me to the Chinese Techno playing in the room, what a nice Sunday! All in all, I can recommend her and will definitely see her again.

Then, we wanted to try something new and walked to the 'pub' which is just a 10 minute walk away. We arrived around 11.30 and I was very excited after all the stories I read about it. To be honest, I was a bit disappointed.
We were the only two customers and 5 girls were playing cards with the Manager and a dog was running around. While the girls at the Ji Yuan were 6 to 8 in my book, the 5 girls in the pub were 4 to 6 only. Maybe it was because it was a Sunday but I am sorry to say that I was not impressed. Also the Pub itself is nothing spectacular. I mean, it is much better than a BBS, but after some of the posts I read here my expectations were too high.
Two girls came over to talk us into some blowjob action. My girl called herself 'Wen Wen' but I have the feeling 50% of the sauna girls / BBS girls have this name. Anyway, we just finished our beer and left.
I will check this place on a week day, I hope the selection is better then.
Have fun,
SJ

Matsu69
04-01-07, 19:27
Mongers,

Just got news from a very reliable source that SH Spa is set to re-open on April 3. I know I am breathing a sigh of relief.

Pleasure Dude
04-01-07, 19:40
Thanks for all the great info from the board as this will be my first visit to Shanghai. I have narrow it down to the spa in Shanghai hotel and also the wave. Can someone post the chinese name of both spa?

One off topic question, I will be traveling to different cities in china on my trip. Where is a good travel agency in Shanghai to purchase inexpensive plane ticket? I can speak some chinese.

Thanks,

PD

Didipod
04-01-07, 23:54
Thanks for all the great info from the board as this will be my first visit to Shanghai. I have narrow it down to the spa in Shanghai hotel and also the wave. Can someone post the chinese name of both spa?

One off topic question, I will be traveling to different cities in china on my trip. Where is a good travel agency in Shanghai to purchase inexpensive plane ticket? I can speak some chinese.

Thanks,

PDMost major hotels, 4 or 5 star ones can handle plane tickets at their business center. You can also try www.ctrip.com or www.elong.com and order on line. If not, you can also call their toll free numbers on the site when you are in China. Ctrip will deliver tickets to you for a small fee, around $6 to just about any address in China. You will find you get better service in China than just about anywhere else in the world in this regard.

Lao Ma
04-02-07, 00:03
Ricky

Based on your obvious in-depth analysis of the knowledge available on this thread, and your quite normal preference for non-asians, in a city of 20 million or so Chinese asians, I think the best bet for you will be to work with the street advisors. Shanghai has these "consultants", if you will, on most of the major streets in town. I'd recommend the ones on west Nanjing Road - they have the best handle on what guys like you need. They are very friendly, and in many cases will actually approach you, right on the street ! They may seem a little dodgy, but they really know what they are doing. Sometimes they will recommend you go with them to a "lady bar" - tell them exactly what you are looking for, and they will give you the business.

Good luck

Doctor A
04-02-07, 00:07
All,

I just wanted to confirm that the Shanghai Hotel is indeed open for business again, as of Sunday 01 April (no this is not April fools). I reported to the counter and asked for my favorite, who to my great dismay was not working ;o(

As we all know, a Sauna is a "service" industry and in the service industry the company is only as good as the person providing the service so I said thanks but no thanks. Actually, my Mandarin is not that good and I am a bit afraid that she may be gone for good, off to another location so as not to miss out on the income.

Doctor A

Eaglestar
04-02-07, 02:01
Ricky

Based on your obvious in-depth analysis of the knowledge available on this thread, and your quite normal preference for non-asians, in a city of 20 million or so Chinese asians, I think the best bet for you will be to work with the street advisors. Shanghai has these "consultants", if you will, on most of the major streets in town. I'd recommend the ones on west Nanjing Road - they have the best handle on what guys like you need. They are very friendly, and in many cases will actually approach you, right on the street ! They may seem a little dodgy, but they really know what they are doing. Sometimes they will recommend you go with them to a "lady bar" - tell them exactly what you are looking for, and they will give you the business.

Good luck

God Lao Ma,,,,,,,,,,,,,,leading the lamb to the slaughter. he he

Ricky better RTFF my man

ES

Westsider
04-02-07, 04:02
Try C-Trip Travel at http://english.ctrip.com/

I have tried them many times over the past 1.5 years without problem.

Nextstop
04-02-07, 13:06
Dear friends,

Has anyone got some info for this bathhouse? Its along zhangyang road near the century ave. in Pudong. Its quite a BIG place (building I mean), that I am hesitant to go check-it out. It seems to me its for those rich chinese.

Anyway, I didn't get any post in my search on this thread, so I asked.

And of course, the info I am asking is for those "services" we normally seek.

TY

Rob Hay
04-02-07, 14:21
That was mean...but necessary.

These new guys are getting really lazy

Neuromancer
04-02-07, 16:09
since we're talking about newbies not RTFF. Just goes to show that even "that place that cannot be named" can be discovered with a little bit of due diligence, using that little search button in the upper right hand corner of your window.

So found the place relatively easily, but then, I've been walking around Jing An for a couple days now so finding the streets wasn't too difficult. Address is clearly marked on the doorway and there's that Orchard restaurant across the street so knew that I had the right place. Even got a business card when I left.

Walk in, see a second door (which had been mentioned in a previous post). Walked through the second door. Was sort of surprised at the layout. Dunno, guess I was expecting more of a "normal bar" type of look in front. Just saw a counter with a couch. Heard chatter from the back and eventually a girl comes out and asks me if I'd been here before and I responded that a buddy told me about the place. Was good enough and went back to the second holding area. Had a seat, ordered a Qing Dao and chatted with the girl who brought out the beer. Was pretty clear from the get go what the deal was, but was a little upset that I wasn't given the opportunity to choose which girl joined me. There were 5 girls or so, all pretty much 5-6 in looks. Some taller, some skinnier. Anyway, all of them would eventually get up and walk across the room so that I could at least have a better look. Reason I didn't just insist on looking around first was that it was my first time and didn't want to commit any fo-pahs.

Eventually decide to head back to the back area. Was pretty cool actually. Sort of reminds me of some of those Qing Ren Zuo sort of places in Taiwan. Basically private booths with a reasonably sized couch. Suppose that during the daytime it would look scummier, but the lack of lighting is a positive I guess.

Well. I was pretty spent from last night actually, and with a few beers in me. Warned the girl that "it might take a while". Have to admit, what the girls lack in looks they make up for in effort. Sucked like a champ. Could tell she was getting tired and apologized. While sucking she took off her pants and switched to FS for a while. Actually made the little didi softer. Switched back to the oral stuff and she had to have been going at it for what felt like 10 minutes at least. Finally shot and could tell that it was sort of a difficult job for her. Apologized again.

Tipped her an extra 100RMB. So the total came to 500RMB. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just waiting to get flamed about overpaying, ruining it for all the other dudes. Whatever. Tipped her the extra cause I really did feel bad for making her work so hard.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Neuromancer
04-03-07, 00:18
Got a little greedy and decided to head over to the Shanghai Hotel, even after having already visited "The Pub" earlier in the evening. Looks like everything back to normal (April 2). Was told that they had just re-opened that day. Got a much bigger lineup than my previous visit, about 12 girls vs. the 5 or so my last visit.

Tried one of those body scrubs for the first time. Not bad really.

Mozquit0
04-03-07, 02:00
Ok, its time for payback for free loading on all the seniors and info within.

Price: 698*after discount
Time: 1hr30min
Shots: so far at least 2 as i cant get junior to continue.
Services: no red ropes, BBBJ, CIM, RIM,
Facilities: fairly new with large Ljacuzzis, steam, sauna, back rub, personal rest room

I have been in here since hey days but am using a new nick now, used to frequent Yuping till I found this.

Am gonna keep this hush and only for the regulars who have been sharing.

Rob Hay
04-03-07, 04:44
Not really a picture taker or poster but this girl in the red some of you might be familiar with from AFF. Met her for the first time in Jan and she is still in the rotation now. I brought her to meet Tango at Park 97 one night. Shes currently working at 9-5 job but is definately looking for a kepted situation much like the others on AFF. I have one other I just met from Chongqing whos a real looker but is dead broke and looking for a serious boyfriend with serious money. Not me but maybe one of you guys?

Girl two's picture I got from match and just to inform you guys she looks nothing like this. In fact this is the only time I've left within minutes of meeting someone. Pictures lie and so does the night so thats why no more nightclubs for me. I have found that the hottest girls in Shanghai do not go out at night.

As of now I am staying away from the club scene and am turning my attention strickly to coffee shops. Coffee bean at XTD and Starbucks at Plaza 66 (Nanjing Xi) being my two favorite.

Fly Surfing
04-03-07, 06:42
Dear all,

After the reading of few page on this forum i am wondering few things.

Is there in Shanghai any Sauna where is it possible to find a freebie?

I've heard few stories about this, but nobody was able to give me the confirmation.

Is it possible in Shanghai to find a massage place where is it possible to receive a nice hand job and blow job?

Thanks a lot for your answer from a begginer monger :)

Have a nice day

Wilde
04-03-07, 06:59
Tipped her an extra 100RMB. So the total came to 500RMB. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just waiting to get flamed about overpaying, ruining it for all the other dudes. Whatever. Tipped her the extra cause I really did feel bad for making her work so hard.


Well, I thought you never made it to Shanghai for the weekend. Anyway, you are doing the 25% tip thing again, aren't you? You should have learned from the Nanjing freebie experience. It's hilarious that it is you who end up with a fake number. She did give me her number in NJ as well, maybe mine is real? :D

I am glad that you are finding your way on your own. The night you were in Muse, I was probably 1km away at the CD Club where local people under 30 hang out dancing, playing dices and getting drunk. On the way home, I noticed a bar about five or six door east of the Jiao Zhou Road intersection on Hai Fang Road on the north side. It looked more like a BBS with girls being showcased in the front but the sign above called it a bar. As I was in a taxi with my regular Shanghai freebie, I wasn't able to investigate. Is it sort of a copycat of "that place that cannot be named"?

Mock A Bee
04-03-07, 08:48
That was mean...but necessary.

These new guys are getting really lazy

I concur.
I laughed my ass off when I read that one!

MAB

Mock A Bee
04-03-07, 09:02
Dear all,

After the reading of few page on this forum i am wondering few things.

Is there in Shanghai any Sauna where is it possible to find a freebie?

I've heard few stories about this, but nobody was able to give me the confirmation.

Is it possible in Shanghai to find a massage place where is it possible to receive a nice hand job and blow job?

Thanks a lot for your answer from a begginer monger :)

Have a nice day

Dear Fly Surfing,

You can experience way more than just a HJ and BBBJ at a sauna.
RTFF then get out to a sauna - dude you are really missing out!

MAB

Levitian
04-03-07, 09:10
How about you just go in and try it out for yourself and then report your experiences to all the others here?! Because ... this is how it works, among "friends".

Quite a big place ... that counts for basically all sauna places, at least all those I know. And then: "for those rich Chinese" ... . How about just asking for the price, they will let you know very quickly.

Levitian

Fly Surfing
04-03-07, 09:31
Dear Fly Surfing,

You can experience way more than just a HJ and BBBJ at a sauna.

RTFF then get out to a sauna - dude you are really missing out!

MABWhen I say Freebie I mean find a girl for free in a Sauna. Do you think it is possible?

Please dont laugh of me ;0 i am a newbie!

Take care everybody.

Charles Branson
04-03-07, 11:21
Hi everyone,

I'm new here-kind of-been admittedly lurking but mostly trying to find out things i didn't know. I have RTFF.

Glad to help if anyone has any questions I can answer but seems things are taken care of for the moment.

I am wondering if there is anywhere to meet an SW etc around 6-7 pm and take home--preferably a finer gal.

Thanks in advance. i'll post something useful as soon as i can help.

Zeeee
04-03-07, 11:52
Stumbled onto this forum and have been a follower ever since. This is my first post, a report of Sunny Island, which I think a few other people have posted.

Location: Changping and JiangNing. You cannot miss it. Super huge.

Nice facilities. Go in for a wash, big spa. 58RMB. though you can get coupons that charge only 29RMB (half the price).

Go upstairs for massage (3rd floor).

There are private rooms where you can rent for 20RMB.

In the room, you have a menu to choose from.

There are normal massages and also special massages.

To get the special massages, it is basically 298 RMB item + extra hours.

298RMB + 100 -> hand job.
298RMB + 300 -> full service.

the girls for normal massage, hand job and full service are all different girls. The girl is brought to your room 1 by 1. Just normal oil massage and then FS.

Albert Punter
04-03-07, 12:13
I am happy you have found a place of your licking.
However, please post address and made your post useful to everybody. This is real form of payback.
Sharing experiences is purpose of this forum and basing on your words you benefitted already of this sharing, so ...



Ok, its time for payback for free loading on all the seniors and info within.

Price: 698*after discount
Time: 1hr30min
Shots: so far at least 2 as i cant get junior to continue.
Services: no red ropes, BBBJ, CIM, RIM,
Facilities: fairly new with large Ljacuzzis, steam, sauna, back rub, personal rest room

I have been in here since hey days but am using a new nick now, used to frequent Yuping till I found this.

Am gonna keep this hush and only for the regulars who have been sharing.

Albert Punter
04-03-07, 12:16
Nextstop,

Don't be shy nor afraid.

Please enter that place and find yourself.
We will be more than happy to read your findings.




How about you just go in and try it out for yourself and then report your experiences to all the others here?! Because ... this is how it works, among "friends".

Shanghai Jack
04-03-07, 12:58
There is still hope for me. Usually I stick to the same places like Ji Yuan, Shanghai Hotel and Royal Spring Sauna, I am really getting old. But my friend Juan and me decided that it is now time to try out new places. O.K., Waves is not really new to this board, but at least it was the first time for us. Let's see if we get more adventurous soon...

Anyway, I was quite impressed, I just don't know if in a positive or in a negative way. We went there yesterday (Monday) around 10 pm. Wow, the place is pretty big, very clean and modern and the staff & managers are nice and helpful. The girls were sexy, skilled and delivered a good service (at least the two we had). There was no waiting tim. Allright, my girl (number 925 from Dongbei) started to sing a bit during the service which some might find kind of strange, but I guess if you are a regular visitor to such places you get used to this kind of stuff. But all in all she was pretty decent and it was a good experience.

However... It was a bit like in a factory. They greet you, lead you to the locker, fold your clothing, dress you, put your phone and cigarettes in the plastic bag, etc. Then, they lead you to the shower which is already running, dry you with a towel, lead you to the stairs, hand you over to the next employee. Then lead you to the elevator, lead you to the girls, make you choose, bye bye. Go with the girl, enjoy the service, handed back to the employee, brought to a room, drinks, cigarettes, bye bye.
'Foot massage?' 'No!'
'Ear cleaning?' 'No'
Lead you back to the shower which is already running, dry you, dress you, take your money (700 RMB), bye bye.

I mean, I really don't want to complain. It was just a bizarre feeling to be in such a pleasure factory. The only thing which is missing are the conveyor belts and escalators (elevators are already used). If the people in my office could only work with the same efficiency as the male and female staff in Waves...

Shanghai rocks!
SJ

Neuromancer
04-03-07, 13:04
Well, I thought you never made it to Shanghai for the weekend. Anyway, you are doing the 25% tip thing again, aren't you? You should have learned from the Nanjing freebie experience. It's hilarious that it is you who end up with a fake number. She did give me her number in NJ as well, maybe mine is real? :D

I am glad that you are finding your way on your own. The night you were in Muse, I was probably 1km away at the CD Club where local people under 30 hang out dancing, playing dices and getting drunk. On the way home, I noticed a bar about five or six door east of the Jiao Zhou Road intersection on Hai Fang Road on the north side. It looked more like a BBS with girls being showcased in the front but the sign above called it a bar. As I was in a taxi with my regular Shanghai freebie, I wasn't able to investigate. Is it sort of a copycat of "that place that cannot be named"?LOL. Maybe YOU need to make the trip to NJ? Is there something that you're hiding from me? : P

Now that I think about it, the tip was only 80RMB since I also owed her 20RMB for the beer, making it only a 20% tip. Seem to remember someone posting that the price was supposed to be 350RMB? Did I tip on top of being overcharged? Oh well, don't normally like to haggle over 50RMB unless its over a watch or one of those fake North Face jackets, where you're haggling over a sum much larger than 50RMB.

Baby Huey
04-03-07, 14:54
I have 2 quick questions that I need help with:

Are there any Hotels in the area of PVG Airport with a Massage/Sauna with full service in the hotel?

I was in Shanghai a few years ago and stay at a Hyatt or Hilton that had a row of western style pubs arross the road; can any one tell me if it was the Hyatt or Hilton?

Any help would be great! Thanks!

Albert Punter
04-03-07, 15:11
1) I remember some hotel close to PVG airport was mentioned some time ago. Try to make some search.

2) Likely it was Hilton.

Wonderer
04-03-07, 18:58
I was at Waves on April 1, 2007. I have been there quite a number of times and am pretty used to the "factory" atmosphere mentioned by Shanghai Jack.

Looking at the handing you over, it's really like a conveyor belt .... But if you speak some Chinese and can chat a bit with the girl or - even better - the girls, if you chose two of the beauties. Then, all of a sudden the service becomes much more personal. That's at least my feeling.

I have noticed two other things, however, that I am not pleased about.

I have chosen #951 Weiwei from Shenyang with a nice face, slim body and big rack; as well as #971 Wangwang also from Shenyang with a nice body and also big rack.

When the girls undressed, it was immediately clear that the tits were tuned. Having had the pleasure with some nice Chinese girls with really big naturals, this came as some disappointment.

The second negative point is the fact that they always almost immediately put some of this gliding cream into their xiao meimei. They are apparently really afraid of western xiaodidi. But for me it's a turn off, since I do not like the taste of the cream on my tongue and in my mouth.

For the rest, the attitude, the looks and particularly the friendliness of girls, waiters, boys, etc., the facility and the cleanness, Waves is still an excellent place. They also offer the red rope twister again.

Wonderer

MarkFalcon33
04-03-07, 21:12
Had Respect for men from Texas until now. Have been in same thing in Thailand and my buddy and I jumped in and Im sure saved the guys life. Texas must have changed in the time I was there. Then men were men and now texas I cant say that about the men after reading this. Amazed, didnt know Texas had men that ran.


I have just left the Howard Johnston hotel on Nanjing road with Police helping me outside. I will write a very long post in the morning explaining every detail of what happened but for right now I must go to bed and try to relax.

There is a shop, directly behind the Howard Johnston. It has a neon sign that says "Coffee" with I believe the number is 547 or 517. Either way STAY AWAY. I was brought to this place by a street hustler on Nanjing saying the normal things to lure foreigners in. I followed him in with a friend of mine, walked up the stairs into one of the rooms.

Two girls walked in, not very pretty at all. I asked to see more, from the time we sat down in the room about 40 seconds passed and then all of the sudden we heard a LOUD! (and I mean loud) HELP! HELP! HELP! Coming from the next room. Let me explain this was not a simple help yell, it was someone yelling for their life. My friend of I immediately run out of the room, look to the room which has it's door open and see a 6-04ft tall blond haired, white male, with both hands on the frame of the door trying to get out, yelling. He had two men holding him inside. I was about 10 feet from him. I looked inside the room and say another man in the corner of the room with three men on top beating him. It was so hard for me to look into the room and see everything. I did see three men throwing fists into a man white man on the couch. From what I gathered it was the man's friend yelling while, his friend was being beaten by three men.

This is my first trip to China and am very un-clear of what and how things are done here. My friend and I quickly RAN! Down the stairs and out the doors. There was an Indian foreigner also running out behind us. We all stood outside yelling for them to bring the foreigners outside.

I pulled my cell phone out and yelled I was calling the police (I of course don't have the first clue who too so I was bluffing to scare everyone inside the place.) We three waited outside for about 5 min's with no one coming out. Some men from inside the place came out and said, relax everything is ok.

I then ran to the entrance of the Howard Johnston hotel, went to the front desk and told them a foreigner was being beaten and they needed to quickly call the police. The front desk man followed me outside back to infront of the "shop. "

We were quickly surrounded by 5-9 men telling us everything was ok, etc. I felt that I could not have helped the two men inside since I was out numbered by atleast 9 men, so the only way I could help was to call the police.

The police finally came, the they asked me to come inside with them (I really did not want too since I do not know if police in China are part of the crime rings as they are in other parts of the world.) I walked back inside with the hotels front desk man, the two police officers and walked into the room were I saw the beating happening. NOTHING was there. All of the workers acted like I was the crazy one and nothing had happened and I was drunk, which I had nothing to drink the entire night.

We all walked outside back to the inside the Howard Johnston hotel with the police man. The police man asked for a copy of my passport, which I gave him (now I wish I had not) and he asked which hotel I was staying in, which is one a few blocks away (which worries me as well). The men from the "shop/bar" walked into the hotel lobby asking what was going on. I at this point am even more scared since now I can see the other "hustlers" that were inside the bar waiting for me outside the hotel, the other two men walking into the hotel lobby, etc. I told the police that I was worried for my safety that all these men looked to be following me. I made it clear I wanted to go to the US Embassy at this point (just calling another bluff to scare them more maybe). There was a taxi waiting out front but had been there for a while and did not feel comfortable getting into that one. So with the Police holding the other men inside my friend and I ran into another cab that was just driving by.

I had the taxi drive away as fast as he could and just drive around far away. I just got back to my hotel which is one block away from this bar. I am very on edge and shacked up still.

I gave took a copy of my passport, the name of the hotel I was saying in, room number etc. Looking back now I feel that was NOT smart on my part but this all happened very fast.

I NEED HELP HERE. I am not sure if I need to check out of this hotel and into another one. If the police are corrupted like in other countries and I have major problems with people going to try to came after me. I am a very tall, blond haired, white, male who is easy to spot. I clearly will not be going down Nanjing road anytime soon.

My question is do I have serious problems or not to worry be/see the police are feared in Shanghai by these establishment?

Mozquit0
04-04-07, 01:35
[QUOTE=Albert Putter
Sharing experiences is purpose of this forum and basing on your words you benefitted already of this sharing, so ...[/QUOTE]Hi Albert, sure I dont mind sharing especially to those that have contributed but worry is on the indiscriminate that spread the info like wild fire and we end up with nothing.

Fyi its called Silver Spring and located opp Yanlord on FuRongJiang Road. Hope that helps.

Can share the mommy tel if need but she is from Guangdong and speaks no English. Place is frequented by HK, Japs, Twn and the rich locals.

I go there biweekly for my release in the afternoons and would gladly show the way if need.

Hope this is a better mode of sharing.

Fly Surfing
04-04-07, 05:13
Dear Fly Surfing,

You can experience way more than just a HJ and BBBJ at a sauna.
RTFF then get out to a sauna - dude you are really missing out!

MABDear Mock,

i am wondering if it is possible to find a Freebie in a Sauna in Shanghai ?

Thanks for giving me more informations

Best regards

Fly Surfing

Matsu69
04-04-07, 05:15
I have 2 quick questions that I need help with:

Are there any Hotels in the area of PVG Airport with a Massage/Sauna with full service in the hotel?

I was in Shanghai a few years ago and stay at a Hyatt or Hilton that had a row of western style pubs arross the road; can any one tell me if it was the Hyatt or Hilton?

Any help would be great! Thanks!JH69 - Sorry, can't help with the airport hotels.

However, in response to the second question, you are probably talking about the Hilton. That's where I stay when in SH. Pubs right across the street. Great location as it is in walking distance to TongRen Lu and SH hotel right around corner.

Also, last time I was there a lot more Pro's in the lounge than I have ever seen in previous trips. A quick stroll through on a Friday night and I counted at least 10.

Hyatt is a little more downtown near Plaza66. Mostly Chinese resturants, shops, etc. across the street from there. Hot women in that area though - have heard from locals that it's a good hunting ground for lonely office ladies looking to relax after a hard day's work. Have not tried myself, curious if anyone can confirm.

Ace Gallant
04-04-07, 07:26
When I say Freebie I mean find a girl for free in a Sauna. Do you think it is possible?

Please dont laugh of me ;0 i am a newbie!

Take care everybody.I am sure a numbers of seniors members would agree with me that : It is highly possible.

I have a few of these experiences where I had dated some of the Sauna girls outside their work hours and they becoming a freebies. But just as I said. There are no freebies in this world it is either you pay now or you pay later, so if you have a freebie now, get out before it turns into a paybie! I also said. Getting freebies is easy. It is getting rid of them that is difficult!

AG

Ace Gallant
04-04-07, 07:31
Stumbled onto this forum and have been a follower ever since. This is my first post, a report of Sunny Island, which I think a few other people have posted.

Location: Changping and JiangNing. You cannot miss it. Super huge.

Nice facilities. Go in for a wash, big spa. 58RMB. though you can get coupons that charge only 29RMB (half the price).

Go upstairs for massage (3rd floor).

There are private rooms where you can rent for 20RMB.

In the room, you have a menu to choose from.

There are normal massages and also special massages.

To get the special massages, it is basically 298 RMB item + extra hours.

298RMB + 100 -> hand job.
298RMB + 300 -> full service.

the girls for normal massage, hand job and full service are all different girls. The girl is brought to your room 1 by 1. Just normal oil massage and then FS.Good report.... but;

1) I think it should be in the Dongguan Threads since it is in Changping right?

2) Perhaps a little description of where it is in Changping or the address would makes your post more useful.

AG

Me Myself
04-04-07, 07:58
across the street from the Intercontinental Pudong Shanghi, is the Merrylin hotel. On the 3rd floor is a massage parlor. 250rmb for a oil body massage or 600rmb for a "special" massage.

Enter the locker room there is an attendant who will place your clothes as you remove them into a locker. Gives you a towel and sandals to wear as well as your locker key with a wrist strap. You are then directed to the showers where you change sandals and take a nice warm shower. Freshly cleaned you dry off and are given "pajamas" to wear. Similar to hospital scrubs yet the "pants" are shorts. Put your dry sandles back on and are lead to a small private room with a TV and a sofa/lounge chair. It is covered with a clean towel. You are asked if you would like something to drink. I choose the tea.

At this point a gentleman comes in and confirms that you want the "special massage" (at first I mistakenly thought he was offering to give the massage and was initially like WTF? No thanks a girl please... ha ha). He departs and returned ~5min later with 3 girls. All looked to be 18 - 23y/o and ranging from a 6 - 7. A nice selection for 1pm on Wednesday. I choose #830 a cute young girl with some shape to her. A B cup with some butt to her as well. The three girls depart and ~5 min later my choice returns to lead me down the hall to a darker more private room with a bed. The lighting in this room is soft and dim. You can see just fine but you would not choose to read in a room this dim.

She then departed and returned ~5min later. Undressed me and asked me to lay face down on the bed. She then undressed herself and climbed up on the bed naked as well and proceeded to give me a very good massage. Starting with the back and shoulders, moving to the back of my arms, then down to my legs. Turned me over onto my back and massaged the tops of my arms, my hands and legs again.

At this point she then began to give me a hand job. It did not appear she was going to give me a BBBJ so I initiated the FS. After the condom was put on we engaged in 15 to 20 min of FS. She was a decent actor, enthusiastic and vocal. A good session all in all.

After I was done, she cleaned me off, then cleaned herself. We each dressed and I was lead back to the mens locker room. I changed sandals and showered off. I was then led to the Sauna and sat for 15 min in the Sauna. In the Sauna I was given a cold wash cloth and cup of ice water. Very nice, very relaxing. After the Sauna I was offered another shower and was toweled off. If you are homophobic avoid this because the locker room attendant is toweling you dry and in the mens locker room they are all men.

At this point I was offered another pair of "pajamas" with the intent I go back to room #1 and take a nap. I declined the nap, was lead back to my locker where I got dressed. I then went back to the front desk paid the 600RMB and was on my way out of the Hotel.

Whether it was the best service or the best deal is of no consequence. I felt safe the entire time, they were very upfront about the price and provided the service as offered without me feeling rushed. In addition the girl I choose gave a good massage, had a firm muscular body with soft skin. I would recommend this service for those member who are not as familiar with the city and run the greater risk of getting lost, ripped off or hurt. This was a very relaxing, safe and enjoyable experience. I thank the members who posted in this forum with the suggestion of the Merrylin. I merely RTFF and searched out some content. All in all a very good day in Shanghi!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Zeeee
04-04-07, 10:24
Sorry,

I didn't post the address correctly as mentioned by AG.

It is at the junction of Chang Ping Road and Jiang Ning Road, Jing'an district. It is along Chang Ping Road, you cannot miss it. Super big building.

Albert Punter
04-04-07, 10:25
Current price should be 300 for BBBJ and 400 for FS.
So, as you had FS ...

Normally I don't pay for the beer.



Now that I think about it, the tip was only 80RMB since I also owed her 20RMB for the beer, making it only a 20% tip. Seem to remember someone posting that the price was supposed to be 350RMB? Did I tip on top of being overcharged?

Zeeee
04-04-07, 10:33
Hi,

Another report to add. This time, this is for a water massage.

Name: Yuan Zun
Location: Xie Tu road and Wan Ping South road. It is where Xie Tu road becomes Nan Dang East road

There are 2 massage places in the same building. It is located along Wan Ping South road.

Downstairs there's a guy waiting for you and will bring you up to the 3rd floor, where another person will greet you. He will ask whether you are here for massage. "Yes" will bring you to a locker room where you can store your clothes and have a small pouch to put your valuables. You will be given a new set of clothes. And then you are brought to a room. A mommy will come and bring you girls. I guess the time that I went was late, so she only brought 1 girl.

You will be given a nice bath by the girl. First together where she will wash your hair. You will be asked to lie down on a nice cushion thingie where she will proceed to rub herself against your back. Nice.

After the shower, she will bring you to the bed, where she will proceed to dry you off with her mouth. For some reason, my room was chilly. So I was literally freezing my ass off when she did that. Brrr.

Then it is the fire and ice treatment.

And then FS.

After that, you are given a wash again.

And you are out.

Total damage. 600 rmb. From what I have read in the forum, this sounds cheap. Only downside is that I went late, so perhaps the choice of girls is no longer as many.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Nighthawk Golfer
04-04-07, 13:16
Hi all,

I am currently in Shanghai and going to be here until end of April and wonder if any bros out here can show me around or want to hang out. Just drop me a PM and let me know if there is any plans going forward. I guess it is more fun than going alone and highly unlikely i would go to a KTV by myself.

Cheers

Shanghai Jack
04-04-07, 13:21
I am sure a numbers of seniors members would agree with me that : It is highly possible.

I have a few of these experiences where I had dated some of the Sauna girls outside their work hours and they becoming a freebies. But just as I said. There are no freebies in this world it is either you pay now or you pay later, so if you have a freebie now, get out before it turns into a paybie! I also said. Getting freebies is easy. It is getting rid of them that is difficult!

AG
I cannot agree more. Getting rid of them is difficult. I took me more than 3 months. My advise: Enjoy them in the Sauna, but not at home.
Have fun, SJ

Nighthawk Golfer
04-04-07, 13:27
Hi All,

Anyone can show a brother around or hang-out in Shanghai? Going to be here until end of the month and if there are any plans to visit HCs/KTVs, please let me know by PMing me. Feels kinda weird going to a KTV alone.

Cheers

Neuromancer
04-04-07, 14:10
I cannot agree more. Getting rid of them is difficult. I took me more than 3 months. My advise: Enjoy them in the Sauna, but not at home.
Have fun, SJHehe - well, my Freebie Nanjing Girl was a sauna girl back in HK. Seems as I've got the perfect opportunity to ditch her now that she's contemplating getting out of the biz and hasn't called me in over a week. 3 months ain't too bad is it? At least you got 3 months of free s3x?

Any thoughts on the Party Rental girls? My guess is that they're working for a bigger payday - but figure if you can string them along with thoughts of dollar signs and sugar plums, ought to be able to get a bunch of free sessions before they figure out that you haven't got a million to your name.

Wonderer
04-04-07, 14:39
Hi Me Myself,

Thanks for the good report and for being the "guinea pig". I also considered going there, but never tried and went instead to my "traditional" places like waves.

I might try the Merrylin now also once, when next time in Shanghai.

In any case, I get the impression that there are many, many more places that have not been reported about in the forum.

Wonderer - and wish you happy hunting!

Neuromancer
04-04-07, 15:27
I am sure a numbers of seniors members would agree with me that : It is highly possible.

I have a few of these experiences where I had dated some of the Sauna girls outside their work hours and they becoming a freebies. But just as I said. There are no freebies in this world it is either you pay now or you pay later, so if you have a freebie now, get out before it turns into a paybie! I also said. Getting freebies is easy. It is getting rid of them that is difficult!

AGWell, knowing all of this beforehand, perhaps the best course of action would be to begin negotiating a "kept girl" arrangement? Remember something like 20, 000RMB thrown out there, but I would guess that if the girl likes you, and you've already started seeing her outside of work, you could get that number down significantly. A HK 141 girl had thrown out 10k HKD as an opening number. But then I had seen her a couple times already and posed the question along the lines of "a buddy of mine was wondering about. ". 10k HKD is still a little bit high for me, but if I could get it down to, say, 5-8k HKD/RMB, then I would definitely have to think about. I would assume that this did not include exclusivity (she would still need to make some money on the side), but hopefully would include "on demand" service.

Pleasure Dude
04-04-07, 19:14
Hello everyone,

I have heard stories that Shanghai is one the best city in China to find model materials. I prefer not to go to clubs or bars to find them because all the music really gives me a headache. Also, I believe girls working at the Saunas are probably just average looking. Where would I find model materials? escorts? Any help would be appreciated. I speak fluent Chinese so language isn't an issue.

Thanks,

PD

Zeeee
04-05-07, 03:01
Yet another report.

Location: Jin Xuan hotel. Xu jia hui area. Opposite Jian Guo hotel. 238 Nan Dang east road.

This is on the 5th floor of the hotel. When you walk into the hotel, you have to take the elevators on your right hand side.

It is standard sauna experience. You are led to a locker where you store your clothes. Then you are led to a small common bathing place. They do offer to scrub your back if you tell them to. Unsure of the charges for that.

After that, you are led to a series of doors (I think this is just a big circle of the floor). Brought to a room. The mummy asked me for my preference, recommended a girl (#27), I rejected based on looks, she called for another one (#2) which is slightly better (always relative. turns out that she is a dong bei girl).

The schedule went along like this:

a body massage where she put some warm stuff on the body. That's an interesting one...and then proceeded to lick the entire body.

Then it is the AR. My goodness, I never experienced something like this...She is the best so far, given my relative lack of experience in this arena.

Then it is the BJ. I had to ask her to put on the cap to avoid over stimulation and shooting early. Her tongue technique is really good.

Then it is the FS. Took her in some different positions. Wanted to try the greek style and was told that it is not allowed.

Had a very good experience.

There's a small common lounge for you to rest, with a common television. The whole place was relatively quiet, and not very crowded. Perhaps business is not good.

Total damage is 600rmb which includes the use of the washing facilities. I believe drinks are also included in that amount. I was given a coupon (100 rmb off) for my next trip. Interesting.

Fly Surfing
04-05-07, 05:01
I am sure a numbers of seniors members would agree with me that : It is highly possible.

I have a few of these experiences where I had dated some of the Sauna girls outside their work hours and they becoming a freebies. But just as I said. There are no freebies in this world it is either you pay now or you pay later, so if you have a freebie now, get out before it turns into a paybie! I also said. Getting freebies is easy. It is getting rid of them that is difficult!

AGDear Ace,

I think we misunterstood. I am looking for a sauna in Shanghai like we have in Europe. I mean you come alone or with your girlfriend to share her or have sex with an other couple or single women.

Do you know if there is such place in Shanghai?

Regards

Herr Pollon
04-05-07, 05:24
Hello everyone,

I have heard stories that Shanghai is one the best city in China to find model materials. I prefer not to go to clubs or bars to find them because all the music really gives me a headache. Also, I believe girls working at the Saunas are probably just average looking. Where would I find model materials? escorts? Any help would be appreciated. I speak fluent Chinese so language isn't an issue.

Thanks,

PDFor real Models you can try here:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=467030&postcount=5606

"The rainbow room". I haven´t been there yet.

Talimuk
04-05-07, 06:37
Yes. I agree with you that the girls at sauna are at best average quality. I am also in need of looking for Model quality girls. I really dont mind paying the extra for them. Perhaps KTV can help? Advise very much appreciated.

Thank you.

Ace Gallant
04-05-07, 07:46
Well, knowing all of this beforehand, perhaps the best course of action would be to begin negotiating a "kept girl" arrangement? Remember something like 20, 000RMB thrown out there, but I would guess that if the girl likes you, and you've already started seeing her outside of work, you could get that number down significantly. A HK 141 girl had thrown out 10k HKD as an opening number. But then I had seen her a couple times already and posed the question along the lines of "a buddy of mine was wondering about. ". 10k HKD is still a little bit high for me, but if I could get it down to, say, 5-8k HKD/RMB, then I would definitely have to think about. I would assume that this did not include exclusivity (she would still need to make some money on the side), but hopefully would include "on demand" service.Nah. These girls are not the the definitions of FREEBIES. Freebies are those you Fxxk and you don; t need to pay in whatever form.

The girls you describe here are what we called Er Nai.

Of course. I still stands on "There are no true Freebies in the world, you pay now or pay later. It only matters if you are able to get out before the freebie turn into paybies. "

Enjoy!

AG

Ace Gallant
04-05-07, 08:00
Hello everyone,

I have heard stories that Shanghai is one the best city in China to find model materials. I prefer not to go to clubs or bars to find them because all the music really gives me a headache. Also, I believe girls working at the Saunas are probably just average looking. Where would I find model materials? escorts? Any help would be appreciated. I speak fluent Chinese so language isn't an issue.

Thanks,

PDUnforturnately for you;

90% of the "model" girls are Gold diggers.
90% of them hang out in higher class Bars like Park 97.
90% of these "model" girls do not care if you speak Fluent Chinese as they would have speak at least some English.

And oh yah.... that's right... there are fair amount of model girls if you do go to high class KTV like Paradize etc... but you will pay high bucks too!

So if you are targeting Model Girls. You will have better hit rate if you are willing to put up with the above 3 points.

Enjoy,

AG

Ace Gallant
04-05-07, 08:06
Dear Ace,

I think we misunterstood. I am looking for a sauna in Shanghai like we have in Europe. I mean you come alone or with your girlfriend to share her or have sex with an other couple or single women.

Do you know if there is such place in Shanghai?

RegardsOh, I see. You meant bringing your own Freebie to a saunas!

Some time back I remembered seeing a guy bringing his own girl into the sauna I was in. This was in Shanghai but I cannot remember which one this was. However. Shanghai is still China, even if you able to bring in your own girl, there are no guarantee that the Sauna girl inside the Sauna will do a double play with your girl. My experience in China, it is very difficult to convience girls to play with themselves even if they are twins sisters!

AG

Neuromancer
04-05-07, 09:13
Nah. These girls are not the the definitions of FREEBIES. Freebies are those you Fxxk and you don; t need to pay in whatever form.

The girls you describe here are what we called Er Nai.

Of course. I still stands on "There are no true Freebies in the world, you pay now or pay later. It only matters if you are able to get out before the freebie turn into paybies. "

Enjoy!

AGAgree. Was just suggesting that when it appears that your freebie is turning into a paybie, and if you still wanna keep her around, then by proposing the Xiao Lao Po arrangement you're taking the initiative and hopefully managing the financial risk going forward. And if you later decide that you don't want her anymore, you could just stop giving her money.

I'm sure that this scenario is rather simplistic and not really sure if it is at all realistic.

Rob Hay
04-05-07, 09:54
I have been trying to get into this model scene myself with varying degrees of success...

There are some theme events at Park 97 or Muse that bring out some models but i mostly see teenage Russian girls. From my short time here my observation is that Chinese models and the most beautiful Chinese girls will not date/sleep with a non-Asian or maybe even a non-Chinese for that matter. Of course there are exceptions....

That said I agree the closest most guys are going to get to that type of material is at the Rainbow KTV on Nanging Xi Lu. The take out fee starts at 3000k not to mention the room and tips and all that other stuff. If price is no problem then thats your place, and no game required as long as the the girl is ok with you.

To those with some time on your hands, the best looking girls outside of KTV or nightclubs i've seen have been at the Coffee Bean at Xintiendi. This is a city i get the feeling that every girl is available....

Herr Pollon
04-05-07, 12:17
Unforturnately for you;

90% of the "model" girls are Gold diggers.
90% of them hang out in higher class Bars like Park 97.
90% of these "model" girls do not care if you speak Fluent Chinese as they would have speak at least some English.

And oh yah.... that's right... there are fair amount of model girls if you do go to high class KTV like Paradize etc... but you will pay high bucks too!

So if you are targeting Model Girls. You will have better hit rate if you are willing to put up with the above 3 points.

Enjoy,

AGNot to mention that, at least in my experience, model looking girls don´t offer the best sex (this is for both prostitutes and normals).

I wouldn´t call park 97 a "high end" bar... (but the more I read this forum, the more I realize you know this city much better than me)

Fast Eddie 48
04-05-07, 16:49
Oh, I see. You meant bringing your own Freebie to a saunas!

Some time back I remembered seeing a guy bringing his own girl into the sauna I was in.This was in Shanghai but I cannot remember which one this was. However... Shanghai is still china, even if you able to bring in your own girl, there are no guarantee that the Sauna girl inside the Sauna will do a double play with your girl. My experience in China, it is very difficult to convience girls to play with themselves even if they are twins sisters!

AGTo AG / FLY SURFING

I think this guy is looking for a orgy club for wife swaping, I not sure there is one chinese is not into this, there is many in Europe and in big city like Las Vegas and San Francisco in the US.

If there is one in china maybe Shanghai will be the city to have a swing club but it is not my thing I like one on one myself.

Fast eddie 48

Rubme
04-05-07, 17:54
Hi Me Myself,

Thanks for the good report and for being the "guinea pig". I also considered going there, but never tried and went instead to my "traditional" places like waves.

I might try the Merrylin now also once, when next time in Shanghai.

In any case, I get the impression that there are many, many more places that have not been reported about in the forum.

Wonderer - and wish you happy hunting!When I tried the Merrylin it was a ripoff. Rooms were dirty and they tried an immediate upsell. I walked out. There is much better available within walking distance.

Pleasure Dude
04-05-07, 18:58
I am actually chinese living in the U.S. and speak the lauguage fluently. I heard from some friend there exist a sex/tour guide for Japanese tourist visiting China. A group of Japanese man would fly over to city such as Shanghai and they would be entertained by model materials for a couple days.

Is 3000k you quote $30,000 or $3000 RMB? Money is not really an issue if I can get top notch material. I will only be in Shanghai for a short amount of time so I was hoping to find some high end escort service. I guess that is hard to come by if I don't know someone there.

Thanks for all the help,

PD


I have been trying to get into this model scene myself with varying degrees of success.

There are some theme events at Park 97 or Muse that bring out some models but i mostly see teenage Russian girls. From my short time here my observation is that Chinese models and the most beautiful Chinese girls will not date/sleep with a non-Asian or maybe even a non-Chinese for that matter. Of course there are exceptions.

That said I agree the closest most guys are going to get to that type of material is at the Rainbow KTV on Nanging Xi Lu. The take out fee starts at 3000k not to mention the room and tips and all that other stuff. If price is no problem then thats your place, and no game required as long as the the girl is ok with you.

To those with some time on your hands, the best looking girls outside of KTV or nightclubs i've seen have been at the Coffee Bean at Xintiendi. This is a city i get the feeling that every girl is available.

Sebastian My
04-05-07, 23:07
Got a little greedy and decided to head over to the Shanghai Hotel, even after having already visited "The Pub" earlier in the evening. Looks like everything back to normal (April 2). Was told that they had just re-opened that day. Got a much bigger lineup than my previous visit, about 12 girls vs. the 5 or so my last visit.

Tried one of those body scrubs for the first time. Not bad really.I think it re-opened over the weekend (Saturday), I dropped by on Sunday afternoon. While not really my cup of tea I have to admit this establishment provides excellent service, the only thing which I found strange was I could not get a real massage. I suppose its not designed for legit business.

OldAsiaHand
04-06-07, 04:57
I cannot tell you how many tales of extortion/violence I've heard about with these sort of arrangements. A friend of mine ended up paying around 300k RMB to prevent the girl from telling his wife about her after staying together for a couple of years during an outstation posting. I even saw one girl floating in the river in Chengdu as a result of this. Some girls can be very vengeful if and when you "stop giving them money".

Many HK guys I know in S. China, actually sign a contract to try and ensure that the relationship is problem free and terms and conditions are well understood. It sometimes includes buying a small apartment for the girl so that they end up with something when it is finally over.

Just my POV.

OAH



Agree. Was just suggesting that when it appears that your freebie is turning into a paybie, and if you still wanna keep her around, then by proposing the Xiao Lao Po arrangement you're taking the initiative and hopefully managing the financial risk going forward. And if you later decide that you don't want her anymore, you could just stop giving her money.

I'm sure that this scenario is rather simplistic and not really sure if it is at all realistic.

Ace Gallant
04-06-07, 05:50
To AG / FLY SURFING

I think this guy is looking for a orgy club for wife swaping, I not sure there is one chinese is not into this, there is many in Europe and in big city like Las Vegas and San Francisco in the US.

If there is one in china maybe Shanghai will be the city to have a swing club but it is not my thing I like one on one myself.

Fast eddie 48Sorry. Unfortunately China is not such an open minded country. Try the next nearest country. Japan!

It is already hard to find in China a place like FKK of Europe.

AG

Ace Gallant
04-06-07, 06:31
I cannot tell you how many tales of extortion/violence I've heard about with these sort of arrangements. A friend of mine ended up paying around 300k RMB to prevent the girl from telling his wife about her after staying together for a couple of years during an outstation posting. I even saw one girl floating in the river in Chengdu as a result of this. Some girls can be very vengeful if and when you "stop giving them money".

Many HK guys I know in S. China, actually sign a contract to try and ensure that the relationship is problem free and terms and conditions are well understood. It sometimes includes buying a small apartment for the girl so that they end up with something when it is finally over.

Just my POV.

OAHOh come on OAH. That's no way to scare these Newbies off. ! Although all that what you said are true, these cases are as worst as it can get. Many a time, people just looked at the bright side and never want to accept the reality. But the bright side is I had heard of many happy stories with happy ending too!

Hey. Although I may sound like a pervert but you forgot to mention the fact that the girl found floating on Chengdu river was naked! And so was the man found floating on the same river 4 weeks later! And what about that story I remember by the member "Asiasing" who almost got ripped off into paying 50K per month? We just have to be careful and watch out for ourselves while in a foreign land!

AG

Cooler Wolf2
04-06-07, 11:27
I cannot tell you how many tales of extortion/violence I've heard about with these sort of arrangements. A friend of mine ended up paying around 300k RMB to prevent the girl from telling his wife about her after staying together for a couple of years during an outstation posting. I even saw one girl floating in the river in Chengdu as a result of this. Some girls can be very vengeful if and when you "stop giving them money".

Many HK guys I know in S. China, actually sign a contract to try and ensure that the relationship is problem free and terms and conditions are well understood. It sometimes includes buying a small apartment for the girl so that they end up with something when it is finally over.

Just my POV.

OAHI have fair experience of the paid girlfriend scenario. Through friends of girlfriends here in the Northeast and also in Beijing/Shanghai, I have learnt that this is not the dream situation that many seem to think it would be.

I personally know of at least three girls enjoying this lifestyle at the moment -and from their perspective, the least they expect is that the Chinese partner buys them an apartment. They seem to belive they have earned it if they have stayed with him for even only a few months.

They are also wonderful actresses - last year, I had dinner with my g/f and her buddy. Her buddy's married partner called to say he could not could come to town that weekend - she burst into tears on the spot, telling him how much she loved him, missed him etc. Two minutes later, she's back on the phone to tell no. 2 (that she was teeing up) that she'd love to see him that weekend, how much she missed him yada yada etc. This girl has never had a job, stunning looking, 26 years old, car, apartment and several hundred thousand in the bank.

Vengeful? Yeah. Threatened one of previous 'conquests' when he stopped the monthly alloance by suggesting she would send photos to his wife. Now drives a nice new Audi.

For these girls, it is business, pure and simple.

My advice is - simply don't go there.

Cheers,

Cooler

Mock A Bee
04-06-07, 12:02
The second in line to the Prime Minister of Malaysia, caught a lot of shit from his mistress.

As recently reported by The Wall Street Journal, it was written that his mistress, who happened to be Mongolian, was used to living the high life. She was given $10,000usd every so often to keep her happy. He decided to dump her and she got pissed, and threatened to blackmail him for a lot of money. Fearing major embarrassment and political suicide, she was taken away by the Malaysian Police and was blown to bits in the jungle.

Instead of inheriting the job as the new Malaysian Prime Minister, he is now under investigation for murder.

Good luck out there and choose wisely!

MAB

Monkey King
04-06-07, 14:44
Dear Ace,

I think we misunterstood. I am looking for a sauna in Shanghai like we have in Europe. I mean you come alone or with your girlfriend to share her or have sex with an other couple or single women.

Do you know if there is such place in Shanghai?

Regards

Not familiar with those types of sex saunas. However there is a special oily massage sauna that has both male and female masseuses and yes, occasionally couples come in together and get it done in the same room. Not as kinky but it's there if you want it. Place is Territary Leisure... at Shanxi Nan Lu and Zhao Jia Ban Lu across from the Starbucks.

-MonK

Monkey King
04-06-07, 14:58
Can share the mommy tel if need but she is from Guangdong and speaks no English. Place is frequented by HK, Japs, Twn and the rich locals.

I go there biweekly for my release in the afternoons and would gladly show the way if need.

Hope this is a better mode of sharing.

Hola Mozqui0... would like to contact you for more specific info but your account can't receive private messages. Would like to get a phone number to that place or a cross street and district since I really have no idea where that street or place is.

tku
MonK

Neuromancer
04-06-07, 15:07
I cannot tell you how many tales of extortion/violence I've heard about with these sort of arrangements. A friend of mine ended up paying around 300k RMB to prevent the girl from telling his wife about her after staying together for a couple of years during an outstation posting. I even saw one girl floating in the river in Chengdu as a result of this. Some girls can be very vengeful if and when you "stop giving them money".

Many HK guys I know in S. China, actually sign a contract to try and ensure that the relationship is problem free and terms and conditions are well understood. It sometimes includes buying a small apartment for the girl so that they end up with something when it is finally over.

Just my POV.

OAHHehe, thanks guys for talking me out of a situation I would prefer not to be in. A bunch of other buddies already chewed me out for even thinking about it.

Mozquit0
04-06-07, 16:23
Hola Mozqui0... would like to contact you for more specific info but your account can't receive private messages. Would like to get a phone number to that place or a cross street and district since I really have no idea where that street or place is.

Thanks,

MonKSorry am not on PM

Its a 8min taxi ride from Zhongshan Park Station. Tell the cab driver FuRongJiang Rd & TianShan Zhi Road. Alight right at the junction and you will see a nice looking big condo opposite called Yanlord.

Facing that would be a huge open air carpark, thats the place. Now the next tough thing is looking for the entrance as there are quite a few and leading to different places.

Hope this helps. Walk towards the condo drive in security post on FuRongJiang Rd, once there look opposite and you will see a small drive in entrance to the car park I mentioned. Head directly in and you will enter the building. Once in there are 2 lifts on the directly left of you. Take it to the 2nd floor and your in.

Look for Yan Jie. (Jie as in big sister) she will set up up.

I dont know if I am allowed to post tels here less I get shot down by moderators

168 TianShan Rd

Enjoy the jacuzzi and facilities, then a private TV room. Yan Jie will come to you by then to check your preferences. You will be lead to the basement into your rooms. Girls will be in the room waiting and if not satisfied in the looks or boobs category , just change. First will be an erotic dance, followed by BBBJ. Then more BBBJ till CIM. Turn to your back for the usual wet massage, then sucking on your toes and even letting your putting a cap on your toes to screw her pussy. There will be AR in between and then servicing the front. More fire ice treatment and then another session of BBBJ to wake the little brother up. Then a capped FS.

Hope the above helps.

Ace Gallant
04-06-07, 17:46
BTW: I took some pics of her. I'll post em' when I return from my trip. Stay tuned more to come..Well?

We are waiting. Its been two weeks since your post and where are the photos?

AG

Shanghai Jack
04-06-07, 19:11
Shanghai Hotel is open as if it would have never been closed. I went there today (Friday) with three friends around 11 pm. No waiting time and a decent line up. I took number 06 form Dong Bei. Quite skinny, but very nice and motivated. She started with an oil massage and cat bath, sensual blowjob, red rope and full service without major complaints about size. Well done!

All in all a great service and I can recommend her without restrictions. Definitely a keeper ;-)

Good to know that Shanghai Hotel is rocking as in the old days.
Tomorrow I am off to Japan. Looking forward to the Soaplands in Tokyo ;-)
Have fun,
SJ

Travelers25
04-06-07, 19:33
Dear all,

After the reading of few page on this forum i am wondering few things.

Is there in Shanghai any Sauna where is it possible to find a freebie?

I've heard few stories about this, but nobody was able to give me the confirmation.

Is it possible in Shanghai to find a massage place where is it possible to receive a nice hand job and blow job?

Thanks a lot for your answer from a begginer monger :)

Have a nice dayFly,

I have exchanged phone numbers with sauna girls that treat me right, sometimes as a way to contact them again if I'm returning and to "reserve" them. They get a larger commission and appreciate it.- sometimes you get the best service by returning.

In a few other times, I have kept in touch with them with the occasional SMS, and this sometimes leads to an occasional bout of P4P. Recently, one girl contacted me months after I first met her at a sauna. Coincidentally, I was coming into town. I wasn't sure how this would play out, but it turned out to be a lot of fun. She came over, dressed pretty demurely. Chatted for awhile, then I mentioned that I was going to take a shower before heading out for dinner. From the shower, I asked her if she was joining me. She joined me quickly and had a great session starting in the shower and ending in bed.

Took her around that night, and when I asked her if she wanted to come back to my place, she declined, saying she had a tough time sleeping in unfamiliar bed (good sign, if true). During the course of the night, I learned that she was no longer working at the sauna, and was taking the month off, but had to start up again soon. Did not get any pity stories or any indication that she was trying to put strings on. At the end of the night, I very awkwardly asked that I knew what business she was in and asked her what I could do for her. She refused anything and I sent her home with cab fare.

Two days later, I called her and offered to go over to her place this time. She accepted, but when I told her I wanted to shower over there, she suggested my place. Came over, repeat of the first time, but even better this time. We went out for brunch, walked around a bit, then I had some business to do. Again, I asked pointedly what I could do for her, whether there were any expenses she needed, that I really wanted her to be able to work less (since she'll be looking for similar work next month). She declined everything. We have kept in touch.- occasional SMSs, but nothing that hints that she's trying to be a kept girl.

This is kind of an unusual situation for me, but one that I really like. Probably, the fact that she was not working and had time meant that she was not sacrificing some other type of income opportunity by hanging out with me gratis. But, the next time I see her I will definitely try to bring her some gifts, help her out. It's definitely worth more to her than to me and I'd like to see her reach her goal of getting out of the business.

Anyone else walking this tightrope?

Mark Mason
04-06-07, 21:53
It seems that the well known BJ Factory is closed. I always enjoyed visiting it.

Can anyone help me with locations of any places where you can go in for a quick BBBJCIM.

Thanks guys.

Lao Ma
04-07-07, 00:34
MM: Big town, hundreds of places. Many profiled here in this thread. Could you give some detail ? Like where you will stay, what part of town you want to monger in, etc ? If all you want is a good blowjob, there's bbs's all over the place

GlenEagle
04-07-07, 02:31
It seems that the well known BJ Factory is closed. I always enjoyed visiting it.

Can anyone help me with locations of any places where you can go in for a quick BBBJCIM.

Thanks guys.

See report 8245 and 8235, it was not closed except that now they do business more discreetly. Last 2 days, I was having lunch at the restuarant opposite it and noticed that they have removed the factory name, the beer advertisement at the front entrance and replaced it with a just the block no on the front door. Some earlier reports mentioned that you have to press the door bell and someone will attend to you.

Guys, can anybody confirm the BJ factory in Xinzha lu is still in business.


GlenEagle

Nextstop
04-07-07, 03:54
Nextstop,

Don't be shy nor afraid.

Please enter that place and find yourself.
We will be more than happy to read your findings.And so I tried Gulang Yu Bathhouse...being a novice I am and "no english"...here's what happens (summary nothing happen):

1. On entry, on the right, give your shoes, give u wristband with number.

2. Was told to enter a pathway on the left of the center reception.

3. A lot of small cabinets, go to my cabinet, number set on my band.

4. get undressed, then to the sauna. Was asked if I wanted a towel rub, no thanks for 38RMB.

5. Shower then dried up, get a flowery pair of shirt and shorts. Lead to the stairs.

6. 2nd floor was a resto or somethin. There was a comic show on the stage, and FAMILIES are cheering.

7. 3rd floor are the services (but no one understands me). They showed me the chart of services in chinese and the prices. 398RMB is the highest, so I picked that one.

8. Led to a room, then a lady came, in a seductive dress, so so. Then massage me...touch touch massage I would say. No indication that it would get better.

9. On the lower part, I noticed she's avoiding the junior. So then I kinda gestured junior wants her....got a response of "wo an mo ni"...and like "bu ke yi".

10. Then she signal like rubbing junior but she is saying "yi bai ba shi ba". She got an idea and get a pen, write down 188 RMB.

11. Oh well, jack-it up sister coz I'll explode soon.

For about 90mins. and 586RMB dear friends, that is what I only received.

Well, I am not complaining, that is my FIRST try. I guess, I read too much on these forum that I was kinda expecting those "services" I read would be similar to that place. Sure is, I am a novice.

I hope someone else could try and prove me wrong.

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Ace Gallant
04-07-07, 06:43
Sorry. I do make mistakes sometimes. Posted this in the General Info Threads. So I move it here.

I just return from a investigation and survey of the famous Cheng De Lu BBS area.

As reported recently that most of the BBSs on Cheng De Lu has either moved or close due to the clean up. SO the question is; is that the truth? Are they closed? Look again! While walking through the Cheng De Lu, I had found that many of the BBSs are not close! In fact they remain open with all their light switched off! I had walked by at least 10 of them and they all seems to have their girls sitting in the dark and some with only lights from the TV. Once I passed them, some fo the girls started waving at me trying to get me to go in!

So, for those who enjoy Cheng De Lu BBSs, they are back in dark business!

Enjoy!

AG

World Guy Sh
04-07-07, 07:57
Finally (from a visit 3 weeks ago) get around to reporting on my first trip to the Yi Ji Hua Sauna, 209 Urumuqi (Wulumuqi) Road (Lu) as the SH was closed. You'll see why.

Turned up, went up in the lift after a long wait (I seemed to be the only person there at 7pm on a Wednesday). Changed and taken to the fishbowl where there was a line up of 12 or so girls. Went for number 29 (everyone seems to, not on purpose). Said her name was Gao Wen. Say a 7. Friendly, chatty, happy to put up with my bad PTH. All good fun.

Had the shower. Soapy fun and she seemed keen to investigate the rear end with her fingers. Then onto the bed. Great massage thing with her sliding around on top on my back and then front. She hadn't got a huge chest but a very nice breast massage all the same. Really erotic, would have been happy to have spent an hour of her doing that. The rinse off and on to the dry area.

Started with a cat massage (OK) before moving onto a great BBBJ and fire and ice. Just new how to keep on the right side of exploding everywhere before finally finishing off by hand. Bit of a rest with her next to me (almost becomming a GFE! ) in which she ran her hands up and down my body and I was able to do the same to her and a bit of chat. Pause, looks at me, "I love you! " then loads of giggles. Definately enjoying this! Then on with the cover and the lies back. Decline to DATY which may have been on offer. And then begin slow sex (always aware some of these girls are pretty small). She either a) enjoys it or be) is a great actress. Lots of moaning and she appeared to come a couple of times (see be) pushing hard against me before eventually spilling again. Both pretty knackered and lie for a few seconds. She pauses, looks at me slightly surpised and says "Your good! " (I'm not going to complain about good customer service and knowiung how to keep the client happy) and then I get off.

Ahhhh. There is a bit of a mess on the towel and on rapid inspection it isn't coming from me. Condom intact but that be blood. Carefully remove condom although this looks clean, she looks mortified, I'm worried. Lots of each other trying to make sure the other is OK. Shower and leave with her looking less than happy and my mind all over the place. Not great. What had gone from a fantastic hour somewhat disintegrated. Paid and left.

Seems you never really know quite when things will go wrong. Not quite sure of her period had started (eurggghh) or something else. Anyway, needless to say was soemwhat paranoid. Bad experiences do this. Is that itching, what's coming from the end of my Xiao di di? Have I caught anything? Not pleasent. Landed up at the doctors. Clean bill of health and confident after chat with the Dr the condom did it's job anyway. But bloody hell, not fun. And that Dr visit cost twice as much as my original trip.

Glad to see someone else has seen No 29 since then so trust she is OK. Anyone else had any bad experinces or am I just getting bad luck! ? ! Pity as was really taken with the whole experience before then. You live and learn. And always wear the cover.

Probably venture back out soon. May even go back. In the meantime, a couple of questions (one of which I see has come up recently):

What on earth does 'Shu foo' mean (and real phonestics would be shoe foo)? (And it won; t be spelt like that). Had a couple of girls say it to me in a slightly questionnnig kind of way.

The BJ factory. Wandered past last night I think. Is it in the modern building on the left walking from WeiHai Lu to Yanan lu, up some stairs with a woodern door and light with red lampshade outside? There was someone who looked like a security guy standing on the pavement.

On XinZha Lu walking towards Changde Lu there is a doorway with stairs going up and a barbers poll outside. Is this a BBS? I'm not talking about anywhere else on this street. Really just want somewhere I can walk into get a cheap BJ and leave on the way home. Having a real problem trying to find a BBS. Can't keep getting my haircut! (see siad I would be back out soon)

WGS

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LittleGoomba
04-07-07, 09:11
What on earth does 'Shu foo' mean (and real phonestics would be shoe foo)? (And it won; t be spelt like that). Had a couple of girls say it to me in a slightly questionnnig kind of way.


Shufu (舒服)means comfortable.

If they were asking you in a questioning type of voice, they were asking you whether it (whatever you were doing at that moment) felt good or not.

M02040608
04-07-07, 13:39
I stayed at the Hua Ting Hotel last week in Xuhui. It had a nice SPA and I tried to go there for a massage. I met a girl called Stephani and she was around 175 cm with a lot of muscles. She gave me a legitimate massage for 90 minutes and the damage was 420. That was the best massage I probably had in my life. She did step on my back and I was dosing on and off through out the massage. It was a great experience.
Next day I called for a massage and the lady answering the phone told me that I can get one in my room. She sent me Pauli who was around 165 cm and really skinny with DD cups. (all natural). Her nipples were like one inch long. She started massaging me with her cloths fully on and the quality of the massage was not so great. I did not know if I was getting anything else until she started touching on my A-hole every time she came close to this area. She spend a long time on my ass and then she asked me to turn around and I was poking at her. She continued with my stomach and my legs rubbing my balls occasionally. Then she asked me if I wanted something else and I said sure so she asked for 2000 (this is on top of the 590 RMB paid to the center). I was almost laughing and negotiated for 100 USD (expensive but I was very horny at this time). Upon agreement she took off her cloths and she had the most incredible set of tits I have seen in a long time. While she had no ass (which I like), she let me DATY while at 69 and she was doing some nice rimming. No BBBJ but still it was nice.
Overall a bit better than an OK experience considering it was just 5 minutes away and very prompt service

Wonderer
04-07-07, 21:49
When I tried the Merrylin it was a ripoff. Rooms were dirty and they tried an immediate upsell. I walked out. There is much better available within walking distance.

Hi Rubme,

What are the addresses of the places in walking distance that are much better than the Merrilyn. It is good to know that this sauna is a rip-off. But it is equally important to know the alternatives.

Regards,

Wonderer

Vertigo1975
04-08-07, 00:58
Hi,

I'll be in Sofitel Hotel in Pudong.

What's your suggestion for the best spa closer to my hotel?

I want to try red rope and everything..

Thanks for your help

Jettsetter
04-08-07, 07:19
This is a bit off topic from the mongering topics.. but I'm considering moving to SH, and wanted to know what you guys thought of as the ideal place to live in SH. Both FOR Mongering and perhaps just for the city/lifestyle.

While I know many will respond with "it depends on what you want," I guess in a nutshell, something fairly central to everything else. Every town has an "ideal" place to live, and I'm wondering what SH's version of "ideal" is (centrally located). I'm looking for a fairly active lifestyle, mixing it up, restaurants, some night life, but it doesn't have to be (like in NYC in Times Square) where all the shops are.

Anyways, also keep in mind the P4P, Sauna and BBS action are something I'd like to have available close to home as well, just not "too close" or visible, as I'm not in SH always by myself.

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Typical Tourist
04-08-07, 18:42
Hi,

Does anyone know if Mason Hotel (935 Huaihai Rd, on the map it looks like it's right next to Shanxi nan lu subway station) is girl friendly? Hear anything about it? I searched the thread but came up with zilch. Sorry for asking questions and not reporting, but I've never been to China. Yet!

Thanks!

Member #2924
04-08-07, 22:31
I'll be in Pudong in a week.

Would someone please suggest some bars to visit where one might find some action?

Is Pu-J's, near the Hyatt or B.A.T.S, in the Shangr-La, still considered to be hot spots?

Appreciate any and all help.

Thnaks, in advance.

Ace Gallant
04-09-07, 00:00
This is a bit off topic from the mongering topics.. but I'm considering moving to SH, and wanted to know what you guys thought of as the ideal place to live in SH. Both FOR Mongering and perhaps just for the city/lifestyle.

While I know many will respond with "it depends on what you want," I guess in a nutshell, something fairly central to everything else. Every town has an "ideal" place to live, and I'm wondering what SH's version of "ideal" is (centrally located). I'm looking for a fairly active lifestyle, mixing it up, restaurants, some night life, but it doesn't have to be (like in NYC in Times Square) where all the shops are.

Anyways, also keep in mind the P4P, Sauna and BBS action are something I'd like to have available close to home as well, just not "too close" or visible, as I'm not in SH always by myself.

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Ahhh.....!

My Advise stay in Puxi ! No ! I don't mean Pussy! ;) Pu Xi .... The best place to stay in Pu Xi is around Jin An District, in other words 5 KM around Jin An temple. Lots of good shopping, good food, good entertainment and it is centralised so that you can basically get to any part of Shanghai within 30mins. It is also 20 mins from Hong Qiao Airport (Domestic) and 45 mins from Pudong Airport. (International). The City Air Terminal is just next to Jin An temple if you travel a lot. TRL (Famous Bar street) is walking distant.

The only problem is; the traffic conditions get worst if you get closer to Jin An temple.

I stay in this area for the last 18 months and love it!

AG

Et888
04-09-07, 09:31
Ahhh.....!

My Advise stay in Puxi ! No ! I don't mean Pussy! ;) Pu Xi .... The best place to stay in Pu Xi is around Jin An District, in other words 5 KM around Jin An temple. Lots of good shopping, good food, good entertainment and it is centralised so that you can basically get to any part of Shanghai within 30mins. It is also 20 mins from Hong Qiao Airport (Domestic) and 45 mins from Pudong Airport. (International). The City Air Terminal is just next to Jin An temple if you travel a lot. TRL (Famous Bar street) is walking distant.

The only problem is; the traffic conditions get worst if you get closer to Jin An temple.

I stay in this area for the last 18 months and love it!

AGDear AG,

Which Hotel in Jin An District will you recomended for 4-5 star service and with facilities like "special Massage" , KTV and etc.

Thank you

Shanghai Noon #2
04-09-07, 13:46
Sorry,

I didn't post the address correctly as mentioned by AG.

It is at the junction of Chang Ping Road and Jiang Ning Road, Jing'an district. It is along Chang Ping Road, you cannot miss it. Super big building.

I went by today to try it out. The place is very new and quite empty. The showers looked ok, however there was 1 sauna working out of the 3. The other steam rooms/saunas(?) all have a sign that says it is out of order. There was about 8 Chinese guys bathing and I stick with the shower. The pools looked a little too communal for me. At least in Japan they wash before entering the pools. I think in China they use the pool to wash off the dirt/???

Went to the 4th floor which has the rooms. Was shown 2 rooms, 88 rmb and 100rmb/3 hours. The 100 rmb room was nice, however later found out that the SPECIAL massage (638 rmb which is 40 rmb for the room and 598 rmb for the FS)only applies to rooms on the 5th floor. Went up to the 5th floor was shown a room and then a girl (a 6 from shandong) was brought in. She seemed out of breath and a little flustered. She didn't seemed friendly so I was a little concern. She said "yes or no, If not then I want to go home", at which time I declined the service.

I feel that if she was hostile before the session then it will only go downhill from there. I think the place is new so the staff is clueless. They also do not speak ANY English. I think the rooms are nice however it does not out weight the negatives(clueless staff, NO selection of girls, hostile attitude of the girl) All these add up to an unpleasant experience. I would recommend giving this place a miss unless you enjoy taking 58 rmb showers only.

BTW, I speak perfect Chinese. I do not know why Zeeee is plugging this place. His description of the place is really not that accurate. IMHO

Zeeee
04-09-07, 15:46
Hi Shanghai Noon.

I guess it was okay for me because I'm ethnically Chinese and know how to speak the language. They directly brought me to the 5th floor. As for the girls, I believe you can reject and ask for another one.

Albert Punter
04-09-07, 16:04
Then I would suggest Luwan district, as a possible alternative to Jin An suggested by AG.



This is a bit off topic from the mongering topics.. but I'm considering moving to SH, and wanted to know what you guys thought of as the ideal place to live in SH. Both FOR Mongering and perhaps just for the city/lifestyle.

Shanghai Jack
04-09-07, 16:57
Hi,

Does anyone know if Mason Hotel (935 Huaihai Rd, on the map it looks like it's right next to Shanxi nan lu subway station) is girl friendly? Hear anything about it? I searched the thread but came up with zilch. Sorry for asking questions and not reporting, but I've never been to China. Yet!

Thanks!
It is girl friendly, don't worry. But at night you have to come with her or pick her up in the lobby, the security won't let her go upstairs without you. I have some good memories of this hotel... Have fun,
SJ

Alch9686
04-09-07, 17:39
Hey all you mates,

I'll be travelling alone in Shenzhen, Guangzhou and Shanghai this coming June and will spend most of the time mongering.

I've RTFF but most you guys mentioned SW, BBS, Saunas, Massage Parlours in Hotels, etc, and you guys rated the girls at 5, 6, rare 7 at this kinda places.

Where are the possible places to stunners? girls rated at 8 or 9 or 10 maybe? TFF says KTVs are the best place but its not ideal to go there alone. and what are the usual price range for stunners?

Any suggestions? Or we could organise to go in a group to get some stunners?

Rubme
04-09-07, 19:26
Hi Rubme,

What are the addresses of the places in walking distance that are much better than the Merrilyn. It is good to know that this sauna is a rip-off. But it is equally important to know the alternatives.

Regards,

WondererThere's some good action down from the Merrilyn, behind the Bank. Don't know name/address. A little dumpy, but I've had good luck there for very reasonable fees. Also lots of action within a few blocks of the Marriott Court Yard nearby. A couple I tried were reasonable. With a good massage for starters, which is what I'm really after too.

My experience has been that if you have a good experience somewhere with a gal, go back to her and the next time will be much better. I've always tried to treat them very well, and it usually pays off well. Often Y200 for two hours with Y200-400 tip for great service, non-rushed.

Et888
04-10-07, 03:46
Dear All ,

I will be transit in Shanghai for one night,so not much time to search around. Therefore try to find a good hotel with a lot of extra activities.

The forum did mentioned Shanghai Hotel ? Is there any other recommendation?

Thanks in advance.

Cheer

Denny1234
04-10-07, 06:50
viplily.com - I sent them several emails that I am interested to buy their lifetime membership for US$200, that I will visit their offices and pay cash - never got an answer. They are probably scam. They used to spam boards like shanghaiexpat.com a lot but never answered PM's, now they went "AWOL" there too.

king69.com - there are practically 3 sections there:

1. Girls with photos mostly "face index 10"

Those are from allegedly 1st class escort agencies. There is only email as contact, I sent several emails to 3 of those agencies which are serving Shanghai area - no answer. Name of agencies: "Generation X models", "China Silk Models", "China Companions (formerly Omega Escort)".

2. Girls with photos mostly "face index 7~9" - those has as contact KTV's (?).

All those "clubs" has rmark "You have to visit the CLUB and pick your girl. "
SHANGHAI GARDEN CLUB 688 Huai Hai Rd
LAN DAI CLUB 527 Huai Hai Rd
NEW HONG QIAO CLUB 35 Lou Shan Guan Road
Dong Yin Cheng Ka Men CLUB 8 Cao Xi Bei Road
YIN HE CLUB 888 Zhong Shan Road
Caesar CLUB 2000 Yan An Rd

You can Google those addresses, for example 2000 Yan An rd is (in)famous Rainbow hotel, and 888 Zhong Shan Road is Galaxy hotel, both near Hongqiao (its neighbour hotels actually) with overpriced KTVs., these 2 hotels are (in)famous since 1980's or so.

3. Girls working on their own "face index 3~6". There is listed mobile phone number.

All those contacts are imho taken from Chinese message boards, you can Google a lot of those numbers and get photos too. You can find also QQ numbers on the web for those girls. Tried SMS and QQ some of them - NONE of them can speak english. So if you can;t speak Chinese you need some Chinese friend to help you. But if you have such friend, he can easily as well search you those girls on CN internet. You can find also photoalbums of those girls to avoid something ugly knocking on your door (on BBS, in their QQ profiles etc.).

Edoman
04-10-07, 09:42
Hello fellow members,

I'm new on the boards , in my Mid 20's Chinese and born in Canada...

I'm heading to Shanghai in July and will be staying Hengsheng Peninsula Intl Hotel near Nanjing area and looking for some action of course.

Looking at the pictures you guys have taken, I must say Chinese girls in CHINA are not as hot as I thought they would be, and prices are not that great... 600-1200 RMB some of you are paying are about the same as I am paying here in Canada, $120 for 30 mins of boning. Hot white girls, asian whatever the hell.

Maybe cause I'm younger and the girls are a bit better in Canada but damm, most of them look about a 2-3 out of 10 on my scale! Even the asian escorts over here are way better than what China has to offer.

Am I out of hope or are there better in Shanghai? IF so anywhere near where i am staying?

Sugar Plum Elf
04-10-07, 14:04
Hey all you mates,

I'll be travelling alone in Shenzhen, Guangzhou and Shanghai this coming June and will spend most of the time mongering.

I've RTFF but most you guys mentioned SW, BBS, Saunas, Massage Parlours in Hotels, etc, and you guys rated the girls at 5, 6, rare 7 at this kinda places.

Where are the possible places to stunners? girls rated at 8 or 9 or 10 maybe? TFF says KTVs are the best place but its not ideal to go there alone. and what are the usual price range for stunners?

Any suggestions? Or we could organise to go in a group to get some stunners?I might get flamed for this but did you know alot of the girls in KTVs are hooked on meth? I dont just mean the rundown 300 kuai quickie KTVs, but the nice classy ones. Meth and K are the drugs of choice here and alot of local KTV patrons dabble in these two. Especially meth, since its like a sex drug. You can specifically state to the mamasan that you want a girl who does meth. It will cost about 3000 kuai for longtime for a stunner meth girl (you'd think a druggy cost less but I guess here doing meth is considered an extra service?)

And when they are under the influence, you dont have to worry about bad performance, they will revel in every thrust and tell you to "bu yao ting! bu yao ting!"

Sugar Plum Elf
04-10-07, 14:21
You guys all know that if you attend say... event parties like Armani launch party or Chivas Regal party in Attica or Bar Rouge you'll see alot of hot hot girls, but did you also know that amongst those hot hot girls are also alot of hot hot mamasans? These girls drive BMW Z4s and make more money than you and your mongering group combined!

Yes! The pretty and smart KTV girls of today often become the hot mamasans of tomorrow! And they LOOOVE hanging out and rubbing shoulders with what they think are the 'elite' but really are just average white collars. They also love sex and since they dont lack money they wont smooch off you. Sometimes they'll even tell you they want a threesome with a friend!

So the next time you go out and see that hottie dressed to the T giving you the look and sipping on 400 kuai martini, you know whats going on ;-)

Bonzo1
04-10-07, 19:48
Hello fellow members,

I'm new on the boards , in my Mid 20's Chinese and born in Canada...

I'm heading to Shanghai in July and will be staying Hengsheng Peninsula Intl Hotel near Nanjing area and looking for some action of course.

Looking at the pictures you guys have taken, I must say Chinese girls in CHINA are not as hot as I thought they would be, and prices are not that great... 600-1200 RMB some of you are paying are about the same as I am paying here in Canada, $120 for 30 mins of boning. Hot white girls, asian whatever the hell.

Maybe cause I'm younger and the girls are a bit better in Canada but damm, most of them look about a 2-3 out of 10 on my scale! Even the asian escorts over here are way better than what China has to offer.

Am I out of hope or are there better in Shanghai? IF so anywhere near where i am staying?

Coming across as ignorant and insulting to those of us who live here and LOVE Chinese girls is not really a great way to get advice, but for sake of PI I'll comment:

A. Girls in China are often (usually) a lot hotter than many of the pictures here ... not to knock pictures here (many of which I think are quite good), but not all hot girls want their pictures taken, not all people take pictures, and many girls look a lot better in person. (as most of us already know)

B. You are comparing 30 min of boning to 12+ hours. 800 RMB here should get you the latter, plus GFE. For 30 min in a BBS it's 150 RMB max, as has been explained ad nauseum in this forum.

C. Having never been here you have yet to have any idea what China has to offer and thus are completely unqualified to offer an opinion. However, yes, you will have many chances to see and meet hot girls here (by anyone's standards). Did you really think that a country with 1.4 billion people, more models than maybe anywhere in the world, and more ISG activity than any other country's has only dogs to offer?

D. Nanjing is not in Shanghai, just as Chicago is not in New York. Nanjing road, however, is a long street, but in downtown Puxi. RTFF and you'll find you are not far from all the action you need, and everything you need to know about where to find it is already here on this forum.

Carnesseur
04-10-07, 19:53
Edoman,

Don't worry about the pics on ISG. They don't really show the quality available in Shanghai. You will find plenty of really hot girls if you go to the right places. They may cost you, but they are there. And, at least to me, they seem to be much more untainted and innocent than a lot of the working girls in the US/Canada. The girls I have met in the US in this business tend to be hardcore druggies or sexually abused as children and have the attitudes to go with it. The chinese girls I have been with, did not have bad attitudes, generally try to provide good service and believable GFE.

About prices. You have to consider what you are getting. In the US, I can pay 120-150 for a decent (7-8) massage parlor girl or 200-300 for a decent (7-8) call girl. That is for one hour and they leave immediately when time is up. In China you can pay 400-600 RMB (55-70 USD) for a decent ST girl for the equivalent service. Much cheaper. And for LT you pay 800-1200 (105-160) and get a decent girl all night and in the morning for multiple pops. No comparison to the US/Canada where LT is outrageously priced and so very uncommon. Also you CAN get LT with a very attractive (8-9) who basically spends the entire day and night with you (as long as you want) for 2000 RMB, maybe less as some here claim. So for the price that I would pay for 1 hour with an average girl in the US and very little if any GFE, I get a gorgeous 20 year old KTV girl who is at my beck and call for 24 hours. Much more bang (pardon the pun) for the buck in China.

Have fun in Shanghai!


Hello fellow members,

I'm new on the boards , in my Mid 20's Chinese and born in Canada...

I'm heading to Shanghai in July and will be staying Hengsheng Peninsula Intl Hotel near Nanjing area and looking for some action of course.

Looking at the pictures you guys have taken, I must say Chinese girls in CHINA are not as hot as I thought they would be, and prices are not that great... 600-1200 RMB some of you are paying are about the same as I am paying here in Canada, $120 for 30 mins of boning. Hot white girls, asian whatever the hell.

Maybe cause I'm younger and the girls are a bit better in Canada but damm, most of them look about a 2-3 out of 10 on my scale! Even the asian escorts over here are way better than what China has to offer.

Am I out of hope or are there better in Shanghai? IF so anywhere near where i am staying?

Neuromancer
04-10-07, 20:09
Coming across as ignorant and insulting to those of us who live here and LOVE Chinese girls is not really a great way to get advice, but for sake of PI I'll comment:

A. Girls in China are often (usually) a lot hotter than many of the pictures here ... not to knock pictures here (many of which I think are quite good), but not all hot girls want their pictures taken, not all people take pictures, and many girls look a lot better in person. (as most of us already know)

B. You are comparing 30 min of boning to 12+ hours. 800 RMB here should get you the latter, plus GFE. For 30 min in a BBS it's 150 RMB max, as has been explained ad nauseum in this forum.

C. Having never been here you have yet to have any idea what China has to offer and thus are completely unqualified to offer an opinion. However, yes, you will have many chances to see and meet hot girls here (by anyone's standards). Did you really think that a country with 1.4 billion people, more models than maybe anywhere in the world, and more ISG activity than any other country's has only dogs to offer?

D. Nanjing is not in Shanghai, just as Chicago is not in New York. Nanjing road, however, is a long street, but in downtown Puxi. RTFF and you'll find you are not far from all the action you need, and everything you need to know about where to find it is already here on this forum.A. Dunno, but the pics I've seen on this board DEFINITELY are worse than the actual girls available in real life.

B. Why would you wanna bone for 12+ hours? My little bro would be dead after 1+, but heck, that's just me. LOL

C. Never mongered in Canada, so won't comment

D. Yes, Nanjing is not in Shanghai, but to compare Nanjing/Shanghai to Chicago/New York is not accurate. Better to say Chicago/Milwaukee.

Wilde card here is that there are very few WHITE options here in China. Whereas in Canada, I would guess that there are quite a few. Hell, if I could get some nice Iowan (or should that be Saskatchewan) girl for the same price as the girls here in China/HK... I'd definitely go for the WHITE one. Here's to all the mongers stuck here in China/HK who LOVE those whitey girls!

Ace Gallant
04-10-07, 21:17
Hello fellow members,

I'm new on the boards , in my Mid 20's Chinese and born in Canada...

I'm heading to Shanghai in July and will be staying Hengsheng Peninsula Intl Hotel near Nanjing area and looking for some action of course.

Looking at the pictures you guys have taken, I must say Chinese girls in CHINA are not as hot as I thought they would be, and prices are not that great... 600-1200 RMB some of you are paying are about the same as I am paying here in Canada, $120 for 30 mins of boning. Hot white girls, asian whatever the hell.

Maybe cause I'm younger and the girls are a bit better in Canada but damm, most of them look about a 2-3 out of 10 on my scale! Even the asian escorts over here are way better than what China has to offer.

Am I out of hope or are there better in Shanghai? IF so anywhere near where i am staying?

Hi Egoman.

Suggestion to you; Stay in Canada, with your young and handsome face you will have no problems in getting the best girls in the world. As describe by you, China has the most expansive and ugliest looking girls in the world!

So if all the above is true, why are you coming to China? You are better off in Canada.

AG

Ace Gallant
04-10-07, 21:19
Dear AG,

Which Hotel in Jin An District will you recomended for 4-5 star service and with facilities like "special Massage" , KTV and etc.

Thank you

Sorry did not get to reply you because I missed your post.

Yes you got it! Shanghai hotel is a god location.

Enjoy!
AG

Fast Eddie 48
04-10-07, 21:59
Hello fellow members,

I'm new on the boards , in my Mid 20's Chinese and born in Canada...

I'm heading to Shanghai in July and will be staying Hengsheng Peninsula Intl Hotel near Nanjing area and looking for some action of course.

Looking at the pictures you guys have taken, I must say Chinese girls in CHINA are not as hot as I thought they would be, and prices are not that great... 600-1200 RMB some of you are paying are about the same as I am paying here in Canada, $120 for 30 mins of boning. Hot white girls, asian whatever the hell.

Maybe cause I'm younger and the girls are a bit better in Canada but damm, most of them look about a 2-3 out of 10 on my scale! Even the asian escorts over here are way better than what China has to offer.

Am I out of hope or are there better in Shanghai? IF so anywhere near where i am staying?





hey edomen newbie



If you are young and handsome you should getting freebie in Canada why do you need to go China for p4p . you should post some photo of the girl that you bone in Canada and let us senior member be the judge .




fast eddie 48

Wonderer
04-11-07, 05:43
A few days ago I was at Waves again, one of my favorites in Shanghai.

The experience was again very good with the two girls I had. They were doing a good job, including a long BBBJ. The only downturn was that they both had tuned tits.

However, about 4 days later I started to develop a pretty bad urethritis. From earlier experience in Thailand I know that a BBBJ can cause this. The girls may have even clamydia in their salvia, but no symptoms. Nevertheless, they can transmit the bacteria to your dick, which can cause this infection of the urinal tract.

Given the timing and the fact that I had no sex between my visit to Waves and the breakout of the urethritis, it is to 99% sure that I got the disease from Waves.

I do not blame Waves, and it's still one of my favorites. As mentioned above, the girls may not have any symptoms, and if they are not tested agains e.g. clamydia (which is completely unrealistic, given the cumbersome and expensive procedure) they may infect you any time. In fact, it was most likely one of their customers who transmitted the disease to them, and they carry now the bacteria without knowing it.

It might also be that not every man is equally receptive for urethritis. But once you get it, it is pretty bad and painful. You don't even think of having sex anymore. I am now taking some specific antibiotics against urethritis.

My conclusion and recommendation: Every time we are travelling for the hobby, we shall bring some specific antibiotics against urethritis along. If you know the symptoms, then an immediate treatment with antibiotics is possible, keeping the damage within some limits. Some antibiotics are even targetted at clamydia, which are the most likely cause of the infection.

Wonderer - hoping to be back in hunting soon again.

Note: the special antibiotics against urethritis is Vibramycin from Pfitzer. Not cheap (about 200 USD for 80 capsules @ 100mg - and you need two per day), but it usually helps, also against clamydia.

Zeeee
04-11-07, 09:10
Finally made my way there. Was unsuccessful the first time because it was supposedly "closed" and had to be directed to its sister branch.

The usual procedure, shower and then massage.

The receptionist told me that there were a lot of girls, so asked that I go for massage first. So I went. There were about 6-7 girls standing the room. I would say, most are around 5-6. None particularly caught my eye. So I just chose one that I thought was better in my eye.

Went into the room, and the usual exchange of information proceeded. I basically skipped the licking of the body and red rope routines (since I had tried that before). Only did DFK, BJ and then FS.

After that, there were 20 minutes more. She offered to do another BJ to suck me dry. I decided that I want a proper massage since I have been having backaches. So just had a massage.

Total damage is 750. I must say that after going to a few places, I like Shanghai Hotel. The room's decor is good. Girls' quality is not that bad, and the one that I have chosen seems very enthusiastic.

Edoman
04-11-07, 09:44
Coming across as ignorant and insulting to those of us who live here and LOVE Chinese girls is not really a great way to get advice, but for sake of PI I'll comment:

A. Girls in China are often (usually) a lot hotter than many of the pictures here. Not to knock pictures here (many of which I think are quite good), but not all hot girls want their pictures taken, not all people take pictures, and many girls look a lot better in person. (as most of us already know)

B. You are comparing 30 min of boning to 12+ hours. 800 RMB here should get you the latter, plus GFE. For 30 min in a BBS it's 150 RMB max, as has been explained ad nauseum in this forum.

C. Having never been here you have yet to have any idea what China has to offer and thus are completely unqualified to offer an opinion. However, yes, you will have many chances to see and meet hot girls here (by anyone's standards). Did you really think that a country with 1. 4 billion people, more models than maybe anywhere in the world, and more ISG activity than any other country's has only dogs to offer?

D. Nanjing is not in Shanghai, just as Chicago is not in New York. Nanjing road, however, is a long street, but in downtown Puxi. RTFF and you'll find you are not far from all the action you need, and everything you need to know about where to find it is already here on this forum. My mistake if I came off arrogant, just being a Chinese dude. Some of the girls I see on here (nothing against you guys) are not attractive, I guess this would be an asian dude looking at another asian.

You see, I'm not saying I'm good looking this bla bla that, I'm just saying in general from what I see here on the posts. Perhaps I did not go through 322 pages of pictures but just from the first say 20 pages all I could point out was maybe less than 10 that were hot.

CARNESSUR. Thank you bro, you been very helpfull. Where do I find these KTV girls? Do I just walk up to spa and ask for a chick to come over night? I heard there are restrictions that I cannot bring guests back after a certain time. If so, would a place like Celeberity Service Apartment be a better place to stay?

Thanks bro,

PS. Dudes, don't misunderstand me. I'm just trying to get info.

Edoman
04-11-07, 09:53
A. Dunno, but the pics I've seen on this board DEFINITELY are worse than the actual girls available in real life.

B. Why would you wanna bone for 12+ hours? My little bro would be dead after 1+, but heck, that's just me. LOL

C. Never mongered in Canada, so won't comment

D. Yes, Nanjing is not in Shanghai, but to compare Nanjing/Shanghai to Chicago/New York is not accurate. Better to say Chicago/Milwaukee.

Wilde card here is that there are very few WHITE options here in China. Whereas in Canada, I would guess that there are quite a few. Hell, if I could get some nice Iowan (or should that be Saskatchewan) girl for the same price as the girls here in China/HK... I'd definitely go for the WHITE one. Here's to all the mongers stuck here in China/HK who LOVE those whitey girls!A- Been to HK on many occasions, yes many hot chicks down there but. Not many when it comes to massage parlors. The girls I booked on 141sex site looked real different when I see them in life.

B- I don't want to bone for 12 hrs guys! Hell, I want to go through 2-3 girls a day if I can! HAHAH That's the point of boning in Asia cheaper so you can bone more girls instead of boning one for the whole night. Unless shes hella hot.

C- I live in Vancouver BC, ask any asian dude. Its a land where the last 10 Miss HK's came from? So, not back but again very hard to find. Local law cracks down on this stuff big time.

D- Well I'm staying for just a bit not long 2 weeks, so either I will be staying at Celeberity apartments 1077 Xietu Rd or Nanjaing. Wherever, whatever places I can get some action would be awesome.

Ace Gallant
04-11-07, 12:05
A few days ago I was at Waves again, one of my favorites in Shanghai.

The experience was again very good with the two girls I had. They were doing a good job, including a long BBBJ. The only downturn was that they both had tuned tits.

However, about 4 days later I started to develop a pretty bad urethritis. From earlier experience in Thailand I know that a BBBJ can cause this. The girls may have even clamydia in their salvia, but no symptoms. Nevertheless, they can transmit the bacteria to your dick, which can cause this infection of the urinal tract.

Given the timing and the fact that I had no sex between my visit to Waves and the breakout of the urethritis, it is to 99% sure that I got the disease from Waves.

I do not blame Waves, and it's still one of my favorites. As mentioned above, the girls may not have any symptoms, and if they are not tested agains e.g. clamydia (which is completely unrealistic, given the cumbersome and expensive procedure) they may infect you any time. In fact, it was most likely one of their customers who transmitted the disease to them, and they carry now the bacteria without knowing it.

It might also be that not every man is equally receptive for urethritis. But once you get it, it is pretty bad and painful. You don't even think of having sex anymore. I am now taking some specific antibiotics against urethritis.

My conclusion and recommendation: Every time we are travelling for the hobby, we shall bring some specific antibiotics against urethritis along. If you know the symptoms, then an immediate treatment with antibiotics is possible, keeping the damage within some limits. Some antibiotics are even targetted at clamydia, which are the most likely cause of the infection.

Wonderer - hoping to be back in hunting soon again.

Can you remember the no. of the girls you had in Waves?

I think you should report it to the management.

AG

Albert Punter
04-11-07, 12:42
As you are a freshman who joined only a bunch of days ago, maybe you didn’t have the chance to go through China threads deeply.
Allow me to make some comments point by point



Looking at the pictures you guys have taken, I must say Chinese girls in CHINA are not as hot as I thought they would be,

Wrong.
Chinese girls living in China are hot. In my experience, they are much more hot than Chinese girls living in western countries. Probably because of their naive nature in comparison with western educated girls.
Obviously in some pictures showing pussies only and sexual acts they don’t look at best.
Anyway, in Photo Gallery you only see some examples of what we were able to collect.



and prices are not that great... 600-1200 RMB some of you are paying are about the same as I am paying here in Canada, $120 for 30 mins of boning.

Wrong.
You don’t compare similar type of service, particularly in terms of time.
What you pay home for 30 minutes boning, which implies most likely one shot due to limited time, we pay here for 600 minutes “as-much-as-you-can-shot” sessions



Hot white girls, asian whatever the hell.

Wrong.
I am surprised this statement comes from an Asian (of origin).



the girls are a bit better in Canada but damm, most of them look about a 2-3 out of 10 on my scale!

It seems you have a high scale, therefore I would like to bone 5 or 6 in your scale.
Out of joke, many times we have discussed about look vs. performance. This is a never ending debate. Obviously, I am inclined to sleep with the best looking girls, but at the end I prefer girls who are hot in bed and not in look, rather then girls who are hot in look and not in bed :-)




Even the asian escorts over here are way better than what China has to offer.

When I compare my experiences in Canada with escorts, again I can tell you that China is much better. Canadian escorts I met were more or less OK in look, not stunners anyhow, but were not good providers. I mean they were too mechanical or too professional. Nothing comparable with GFE experiences you can get here (or in Brazil, other country I know well).



Am I out of hope or are there better in Shanghai? IF so anywhere near where i am staying?

Don’t be hopeless, otherwise as someone suggested stay home and enjoy mongering there.
Just come here with a positive attitude and be open to experience (AND REPORT AFTER).
I don’t know how long you will stay, but don’t forget it is always possible to try to catch some freebies. You are young, maybe you talk some Chinese too, so success is here waiting for you, no need for mongering (in strict sense).

Baby Huey
04-11-07, 15:14
I am looking for a good M.P. around the Peace Hotel. The Peace Hotel is the old Dutch part of town by the River. Does any one know of any good M.P. in the area?

Wonderer
04-11-07, 16:00
Can you remember the no. of the girls you had in Waves?

I think you should report it to the management.

AG

Ace Gallant,

I have not noted the numbers, but I try to find out. If I can find out, I will report to the management. I do not want to blame the wrong girls, though. I had once the same in Thailand, and the girl had no symptoms at all. But she still had to undergo the medical treatment with specialized antibiotics.

Farmer Joe
04-11-07, 18:15
I might get flamed for this but did you know alot of the girls in KTVs are hooked on meth? I dont just mean the rundown 300 kuai quickie KTVs, but the nice classy ones. Meth and K are the drugs of choice here and alot of local KTV patrons dabble in these two. Especially meth, since its like a sex drug. You can specifically state to the mamasan that you want a girl who does meth. It will cost about 3000 kuai for longtime for a stunner meth girl (you'd think a druggy cost less but I guess here doing meth is considered an extra service?)

And when they are under the influence, you dont have to worry about bad performance, they will revel in every thrust and tell you to "bu yao ting! bu yao ting!"Very interesting comment. Have been to many KTVs in Sha and elsewhere, with local friends, but never heard of this. Anyone has any experience they can share?

Ace Gallant
04-11-07, 19:54
Ace Gallant,

I have not noted the numbers, but I try to find out. If I can find out, I will report to the management. I do not want to blame the wrong girls, though. I had once the same in Thailand, and the girl had no symptoms at all. But she still had to undergo the medical treatment with specialized antibiotics.

Good!... To some customer who are not so regular there, the management might just tell you that it is not possible that you picked it up from their Sauna girls. Or if you felt uneasy to report to the management find out their no. and I be glad to help you report them.

AG

Carnesseur
04-11-07, 20:25
Edoman,

There has been a lot of discussion about the pros and cons of KTV girls in the last few months. I suggest you read the forum for the full picture. Definitely not recommended for someone going alone. KTVs are better with a group. And there are high costs other than for the girl (room, drinks, etc.). Don't just go to any KTV and expect to find quality girls. Again read the forum to learn about the best KTVs if you decide to do that.

However, if, as you said, you want multiple girls in a single day, KTVs will not be your thing anyway. To do this, you can visit BBS, sauna and streetwalkers. But the girls will probably be much lower quality than at the high-end KTVs. Descriptions of how the sauna and BBS options work can be found by reading the forum.

Then there is the upscale nightclub/bar scene (also discussed quite a bit here lately). Great looking girls at some of these places. Hard to tell if some are pros or non-pros. If you are young, handsome and a smooth talker, you might find a real hottie. Especially if you can speak mandarin.

In my limited experience staying at Shanghai hotels (4 different hotels), I have never had a problem with bringing a girl to my room. So not sure how big of a problem this really is. I wouldn't worry about it. As long as you meet her downstairs and bring her up, what can they say? Others might disagree.


My mistake if I came off arrogant, just being a Chinese dude. Some of the girls I see on here (nothing against you guys) are not attractive, I guess this would be an asian dude looking at another asian.

You see, I'm not saying I'm good looking this bla bla that, I'm just saying in general from what I see here on the posts. Perhaps I did not go through 322 pages of pictures but just from the first say 20 pages all I could point out was maybe less than 10 that were hot.

CARNESSUR. Thank you bro, you been very helpfull. Where do I find these KTV girls? Do I just walk up to spa and ask for a chick to come over night? I heard there are restrictions that I cannot bring guests back after a certain time. If so, would a place like Celeberity Service Apartment be a better place to stay?

Thanks bro,

PS. Dudes, don't misunderstand me. I'm just trying to get info.

Laowai123
04-11-07, 21:31
A few days ago I was at Waves again, one of my favorites in Shanghai.

The experience was again very good with the two girls I had. They were doing a good job, including a long BBBJ. The only downturn was that they both had tuned tits.

However, about 4 days later I started to develop a pretty bad urethritis. From earlier experience in Thailand I know that a BBBJ can cause this. The girls may have even clamydia in their salvia, but no symptoms. Nevertheless, they can transmit the bacteria to your dick, which can cause this infection of the urinal tract.

Given the timing and the fact that I had no sex between my visit to Waves and the breakout of the urethritis, it is to 99% sure that I got the disease from Waves.

I do not blame Waves, and it's still one of my favorites. As mentioned above, the girls may not have any symptoms, and if they are not tested agains e.g. clamydia (which is completely unrealistic, given the cumbersome and expensive procedure) they may infect you any time. In fact, it was most likely one of their customers who transmitted the disease to them, and they carry now the bacteria without knowing it.

It might also be that not every man is equally receptive for urethritis. But once you get it, it is pretty bad and painful. You don't even think of having sex anymore. I am now taking some specific antibiotics against urethritis.

My conclusion and recommendation: Every time we are travelling for the hobby, we shall bring some specific antibiotics against urethritis along. If you know the symptoms, then an immediate treatment with antibiotics is possible, keeping the damage within some limits. Some antibiotics are even targetted at clamydia, which are the most likely cause of the infection.

Wonderer - hoping to be back in hunting soon again.

Note: the special antibiotics against urethritis is Vibramycin from Pfitzer. Not cheap (about 200 USD for 80 capsules @ 100mg - and you need two per day), but it usually helps, also against clamydia.
Wonderer,

check following post:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=502053

Unfortunately my original post was a little bit "changed" - listing, words missing and so on - by a script used to check posts of non-senior members or so, but I think you can read the main message. As "killer medic" for such asian germs seems Zythromax do its job in general, medic b) and c) was used after a) was not enough. Try do get such "emergency medic combination" from your doc and for you specially. My medic list maybe not work for everybody. hth

Get well soon!

LW

Sebastian My
04-11-07, 23:48
Very interesting comment. Have been to many KTVs in Sha and elsewhere, with local friends, but never heard of this. Anyone has any experience they can share?

I have never heard of this in china, but i have not looked. I will ask my friends. But if you want a meth girl go to Thailand, about 80% of the girls who work the bars are on meth. Not being an expert on the topic, my understanding is meth works like dopamine and provided a general feeling of happiness and pleasure. I suspect the girls will be happy irrespective of any thrusting motion, so i am not sure how this improves the experience. Also, girls on meth become paranoid and if they are coming off it can be crazy - no way i am trying a meth addict.

Reminding me of a trip to vladivostok many years ago. I got a gorgeous bird in my room who started to polish off a bottle of vodka i had. While i was not too happy, i though it did not matter if she was drunk or not - how wrong i was. She became a crazy drunk who started to attack me. Took me a while to restrain her and call security (You try and restrain a crazy woman and use the phone - it was not easy). Never again.

Typical Tourist
04-12-07, 01:09
Shanghai Jack,

Thanks for the info! "Good memories" sounds encouraging. Have to do a search for the source of these memories.


It is girl friendly, don't worry. But at night you have to come with her or pick her up in the lobby, the security won't let her go upstairs without you. I have some good memories of this hotel.

Have fun,

SJ

Jettsetter
04-12-07, 03:42
A- Been to HK on many occasions, yes many hot chicks down there but. Not many when it comes to massage parlors. The girls I booked on 141sex site looked real different when I see them in life.Let's do the math you have a country where the income level is generally very low, the population is extremely high, and where jobs don't come easily. Just by the sheer odds, you're going to have LOTS OF HOT GIRLS in the industry. I've been to China repeatedly and any girl of any flavor that suits any taste can be found in any one of the major cities in China, and most likely working in the place that you happen upon.

Edo, I know what you're getting at, and never having been there (from what i can tell of your posts), please do not rely on the pictures here as indication of the quality of gals. First and foremost, mongers don't post their best pics.. they share amongst their monger buddies in private. The pics you get are a fraction of what is avialable.

If anybody has ever been to the 500 girl flower street at Jia Yi in CP, or walked the Hallways at any major KTV, they will know that something is bound to be there for everyone. With the exception of getting to a KTV late, I've never had a problem finding, even after being there 7 straight days and using every ounce of energy I have just to get one more shot or to bone one more time... (you get desensitized after doing it every day 2-3 times a day).

Point is, this is fantasy land where you WILL FIND your fantasy. You just have to know where to look. ISG is your key. You may not find it in the BBS's because gals there tend to be better QUALITY fucks than the hotter looking ones (although I've found many gems). But I guarantee if you read and do your due diligence, you will find girls 10 times better than anything you'll find in Northern America.

Granted I've seen some hotties in Canada, but when you get a true GFE in China who is drop dead gorgeous, and she's just enamored with you, even though you're not the most handsome guy, a little overweight, and a little geeky by US/Canada standards... You have to stop yourself sometimes from getting totally wrapped up in that world and calling your boss to tell him you're moving to China.

Put the trust in the hundreds of guys who post here, that China, (and more so that other countries since you can speak Mandarin) is going to be your oasis. I've been around, and I am also asian (ABC) - speak mandarin, and China is my mecca.

Good luck.. I know you'll find what you're looking for... read the posts and you'll find where you need to go.

Porn1437
04-12-07, 04:58
I am a 21 YO guy born in shanghai, im currently live in Sydney but i do travel back to shanghai occationaly and i know my way around and also been to alot of massage places etc, i can speak fluent english, mandarin and shanghainese so if anyone wants a guide let me know and maybe we can arrange a time to go to Shanghai.I am going to Shanghai in this coming 22 of April till 24 April. Are you free that time? I really need your guides to bring me to some fun places. Actually I am looking some overnight service. So do you have any contact?

Albert Punter
04-12-07, 13:00
A- Been to HK on many occasions, yes many hot chicks down there but. Not many when it comes to massage parlors. The girls I booked on 141sex site looked real different when I see them in life.


Rest assured this happens at all latitudes, Canada included.
Looking at the pictures in an escort site, you select a very hot girl.
Then, when girl arrives is not the one you selected.
Typical escort agency scam.

Albert Punter
04-12-07, 13:05
PS. Dudes, don't misunderstand me. I'm just trying to get info.


We are here to supply all info you need.
However, we believe that before making questions (in a polite way, please) you should at least read the threads and understand a little of the mongering system here.
So, make some effort before making new questions.
China is a mongering paradise and you will be surprised.