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WinteRain
08-28-07, 04:58
I was attractted by her boots but it turned out to be the magic bra. Had a lovely evening with my new gf from Thompson. :) She and her friend came over to talk, and then spent the night together at my place.

Yeah em' magic bras are really magical these days. Could've sworn my girl was a C cup with her bra on, but her size deflated quite alot after she got undressed.

Softy
08-28-07, 11:49
Unexpectedly, I have to be in Shanghai tonight and tomorow night.

I am headed out tonight to hit the Pub, Malones and TRL. If anyone is interested in doing a KTV - particularly naked KTV - tomorrow night or just general mongering, hit me up on PM.

I have not been to SH in a year and am looking to get a good view of how things have changed since my last visit.

Albert Punter
08-28-07, 14:56
In a big city in case you travel for business, often hotel location depends on business partners location you have to meet.
So, assuming you come for pleasure only and, as you state, those 4 requirements are a must, I would recommend Equatorial Hotel or Shanghai Hotel.
You may google for those and see yourself if they suits you in terms of price and features.
Both of them are close to XTD, TRL and other popular mongering spots.
In addition, Shanghai Hotel is home of the most famous sauna in town (however, basing on some reports it is closed in this period).

As far as food is concerned, I don't know any Italian or French restaurant that can be really considered as such.
So, you may want to scroll through restaurants list in www.smartshanghai.com and chose the one that looks better in atmosphere for a nice date :-)



Hi there,

Going in Shanghai for 2 weeks.

Having no idea in order to choose the hotel.

The city is too big to choose.

What do you suggest?

My best hotel is:
Girl friendly.
Puxi Area.
4-5 stars.
3 stars is okay but i must be clean.

I have been reading a lot about shanghai hotel but never for the rooms always about the sauna.

How is that hotel?

Any good hotel with italian restorant?

Any good italian - french restorant in the city?

Any suggestions?

Best Regards.

P.S. Many thanks to everybody that have been discussing so deep this city in order to get satisfied but i didn't find a lot about hotel's discussions.

Ding Ding
08-28-07, 18:04
Booked myself into "Hai Shang Shan Art&Hotel", which is in the same block as the village. Hotel is OK for a rate of 230RMB but needs redecoration which actually already started.
So checked the BBSs around. The rate in all was 150RMB for FS. The first one was much in a rush: cbj and the "come as soon as possible cowboy ride". Place was just upstairs and has AC. Buy some DVDs from a shop between the BBSs with good selection and good prices, whatch a move in the hotel to recover and then to another BBS. This was much better, girl sweeter. Also cbj and then only two positions as I come quickly. Also on second flor behind hidden door and also has AC. Then I watch another movie and check out the third BBS. Nice girl, but to get to her place is really in the back of the darket backyeard, goind stairs, ladders and whatever. But has AC. She immediately wants penetration. OK, why not. Do her in may positions. You all know that the 3rdd fuck in 3 hours make you come slowly...

Total damage: 450 RMB minus saved money for a good hotel minus money spend for beer in bars...
GFE: 0%
Menu: many many FS BBSs there, nice girls, but poor service - price related OK.
Satisfaction: just arrived, so the only thing I needed was get rid of the pressure...

Tried to take a picture of the map on the hotels card, but do not have macro mode. So the other option is to call the hotel +86-21-64216933 to tell the taxi driver the way. Around 30RMB from downtown. You cannot miss the BBSs and no need to check into the hotel if you want to fuck only 1 or 2 times.

Ding Ding
08-28-07, 18:32
Checked TRL last weekend. Finally found a girl that matches my taste. Around 30, good shape, perfect english. But the best: crazy for f*cks.
I booked her twice and (over) paid 1k RMB each time for her excellent service. She is really high in the top 10 of all the girls I tried. Nice, very entertaining, loves beer and is hungry for s*x. BBBJ, taking you deep including the "handsfree rubber on by mouth" trick.
I mean, I am no longer 18 and 4 times a night takes me to my limit. I think she would not stop doing it if I only could, always asking for more.

-- If you think now that you find a ride for your viagra trip, no! No girl likes the non stop f*cking. There is a diffenrece between countless f*cks and endless f*cks. Keep that in mind --

She loves tall and YOUNG guys, so why she stayed with me? Oh, almost forgot, it is the money... ;-)
Only problem is that the hotel management approached me and asked me to be more discrete as she is sreaming so much while doing it. Seams to be some habit among PIs. I also love their smell and cleaness.
Heard that she is leaving in 2 weeks, so if you wanne be her BF for some nights, better hurry up. But beware, she is picky. She is mostly around the stairs to 2nd floor.
If you want to crosscheck: Name starts with D and ends with A. This must be enough - I do not want to compromite her.

DING²

Shangy
08-28-07, 21:02
... and girls were nice looking, but maybe price he paid was a little high for a CBJI deprecate! :.) I had FS and more. It's my job. Speaking with Chinese man, broken price and receive best stuff.

Also. If you want adventure for cheapest price. You can cometo XinTianDi midnght. Yesterday I saw 2 or 3 Chinese girl who be ready to go. Next report soon. Good hunt to all.

Ascanio
08-29-07, 02:29
In a big city in case you travel for business, often hotel location depends on business partners location you have to meet.

So, assuming you come for pleasure only and, as you state, those 4 requirements are a must, I would recommend Equatorial Hotel or Shanghai Hotel.

You may google for those and see yourself if they suits you in terms of price and features.

Both of them are close to XTD, TRL and other popular mongering spots.

In addition, Shanghai Hotel is home of the most famous sauna in town (however, basing on some reports it is closed in this period).

As far as food is concerned, I don't know any Italian or French restaurant that can be really considered as such.

So, you may want to scroll through restaurants list in www.smartshanghai.com and chose the one that looks better in atmosphere for a nice date :-)Then I will choose the Shanghai Hotel.

I will report back for the restaurants also.

Thanks,

Albert

Mianbao
08-29-07, 16:40
Finally followed the crowd to this place after reading a few reports.

Went at about 5pm on a Sunday thinking it would be a quiet time - and it was. Lineup of about six girls was offered, all of them I would say 6/7's. Wondered afterwards if that was it at that time or if I could have asked for a second lineup. I appeared to be the only punter there and the only one when leaving as well.

One thing I appreciated was changing in the waiting room, and not having attendants staring at me all the time. I am after all there for a good time not a gay time.

The girl I picked turned out to be more of a 5 once she had her kit off. Very cute face but average body. Sometimes you click with the girl and sometimes you don't. On this occasion I didn't. She tried to pretend to genuinely like me but have been around enough to see through that now. Might have believed it if it was one of my first visits to a sauna. I think however it was just luck of the draw, absolutely possible that you could have a great time there.

Session was only 70 minutes, which after the showering and water bed body massage seemed to go fast, and only left 20 minutes for the main event. For that reason alone I won't repeat.

RMB700 as per other reports.

Dpbone
08-30-07, 07:38
Hey all,

I'm moving to Shanghai in the near future, so I was wondering if there was, and if so how big is the Adult Movie/Porn Industry there?

As a male performer from Australia (among my professional job) what details do I need to know about?

Thanks in advance

Guybert56
08-30-07, 08:40
Just left a great GFE. #829 at Sauna in 818 Zhangyang Lu in Pudong. The usual Sauna methodology up to a nice line up of 6 all good looking talent. I chose based on the eyes and the fact 829 looked to be natural and petite. The price was set for 'Special Massage' and off I went to a nicely appointed room. My first time there and was impressed by the quality of the facility and the working folks.

The usual cat bath started out but when I showed more interest in pleasing her, she really responded like she should. Not the usual moans and groans but real honest to goodness passion. She rather enjoyed a 30 minute DATY session and all but pushed my big nose into her. Then SHE decided 69 would be good and that was a good call! I all but CIM and she was encouraging me but I wanted to hold out for a little GOT MISH so I could control contact and pressure. I thought her walls were going to squeeze my little man off when she let go! Then a really nice gentle and almost romantic clean up and spooning session with mutual massage.

The message is this. You just might get more really enjoyable GFE if you show a little more interest in her needs, then good things might happen.

Just a few blocks away on the corner of Weifeng and Laoshan is a spa where the tallent is borderline 9's. It is actuall the first spa on the right as you turn south on Laoshan from Weifeng. I would give my favorite but I want to keep her under wraps. Her extra's are way too high but worth it. She has the most perfect 'equipment' I have ever wrapped my tongue around and in and has actually collapsed on the floor during our mutual foreplay with her head spinning. I guess twice is her limit or she busts a vein in her head. Ha!

Now a question. At Yiyuan Club, can you bargain or does that cost you in the long run?

Thanks!

Makeupaname
08-30-07, 09:32
I found that the pharmacy at the Portman Ritz Carlton complex sells Cialis.

One 20mg 138 RMB.

Softy
08-30-07, 14:13
I just spent two nights in Shanghai and had a great time in the evenings thanks to all of the continuous updates provided in this most excellent thread.

While I will report later on my expreiences in detail, I did want to alert anyone out hitting Manhattan that I had a bad exprerience with a girl there. I normally am pretty good at screening and am also very selective. My expreiences with women while mongering, therefore, tend to be top notch. While in Shanghai two nights ago, however, I abandoned my normal screening processes and got a bad result for my efforts.

It was late, about 3 am and after some previous good engagement, when I walked into Manhattan. I started a conversation with a Brit and an American guy both of whom were oggling the most excellent tits of a tall Philippina. Having a bit of Philippina lust, and a bit too full of drink and myself, I wanted to show my two new friends how it was done and proceeded to walk up and talk to the girl.

In addition to a bit of Philippina lust, I also like unusual women -whether it be looks or body shape. This one, and I forget her name, was standing by the entrance when I approached her. About 5'8" with nice round, natural breasts with quite sizable hips, she had one of the most unusual looks of any Philippina I have ever met. Given her height, she could have passed for a ladyboy, but the hips and abscence of adams apple gave her a passing grade in that regard.

To make a long story less long, I spent little time chatting her up and giving her the BF treatment (my normal MO), and did not really get to know her well before we were out the door and headed to my hotel. While she seemed nice enough in the beginning, she was all business in the hotel room. Rushed bbbj, in a hurry to do the deed, unwilling to change positions when I had a hard time coming. Eventually I just went limp and threw her out of the room - after 800 rmb damage.

Anyway, I would avoid this one...

Name: Forgotten
Type: Philippina
Distinguishing Features: Tall for a Philippina, big tis, bigger hips

If you see a girl like this in either Manhattan bar, I would avoid her. Of course, YMMV.

More to report later, but I wanted to get this one out there.

Bad Boy Billy
08-30-07, 16:27
I just spent two nights in Shanghai and had a great time in the evenings thanks to all of the continuous updates provided in this most excellent thread.

While I will report later on my expreiences in detail, I did want to alert anyone out hitting Manhattan that I had a bad exprerience with a girl there. I normally am pretty good at screening and am also very selective. My expreiences with women while mongering, therefore, tend to be top notch. While in Shanghai two nights ago, however, I abandoned my normal screening processes and got a bad result for my efforts.

It was late, about 3 am and after some previous good engagement, when I walked into Manhattan. I started a conversation with a Brit and an American guy both of whom were oggling the most excellent tits of a tall Philippina. Having a bit of Philippina lust, and a bit too full of drink and myself, I wanted to show my two new friends how it was done and proceeded to walk up and talk to the girl.

In addition to a bit of Philippina lust, I also like unusual women -whether it be looks or body shape. This one, and I forget her name, was standing by the entrance when I approached her. About 5'8" with nice round, natural breasts with quite sizable hips, she had one of the most unusual looks of any Philippina I have ever met. Given her height, she could have passed for a ladyboy, but the hips and abscence of adams apple gave her a passing grade in that regard.

To make a long story less long, I spent little time chatting her up and giving her the BF treatment (my normal MO), and did not really get to know her well before we were out the door and headed to my hotel. While she seemed nice enough in the beginning, she was all business in the hotel room. Rushed bbbj, in a hurry to do the deed, unwilling to change positions when I had a hard time coming. Eventually I just went limp and threw her out of the room - after 800 rmb damage.

Anyway, I would avoid this one...

Name: Forgotten
Type: Philippina
Distinguishing Features: Tall for a Philippina, big tis, bigger hips

If you see a girl like this in either Manhattan bar, I would avoid her. Of course, YMMV.

More to report later, but I wanted to get this one out there.

Softy Softy Softy

Please sit down while you are reading this.

If she was TALL, STUNNING, BIG TITTS - and MOST IMPORTANTLY standing by the door and not inside the main part of the bar..................you may just....................you may just.......................you may just have had yourself a Billy Boy.

I hope I am wrong - but I have seen EXACTLY THE SAME CIRCUMSTANCES several times...................and they have been Billy Boys.

In this instance - I hope I am wrong.

Matsu69
08-30-07, 17:17
Softy Softy Softy

Please sit down while you are reading this.

If she was TALL, STUNNING, BIG TITTS. And MOST IMPORTANTLY standing by the door and not inside the main part of the bar. You may just. You may just. You may just have had yourself a Billy Boy.

I hope I am wrong. But I have seen EXACTLY THE SAME CIRCUMSTANCES several times. And they have been Billy Boys.

In this instance - I hope I am wrong.Yup - I'm thinkin' there is a lesson to be had here.

Be wary of the ladies on TRL. Each of the bars has it's own potential pitfall. Most are pretty harmless and your lesson will only set you back a couple of hundred RMB. Usually drink scammers and the like.

But something like this could potentially scar you for life man. Stay away from the masculine SEA "ladies" in Manhattan. The potential upside is not worth the risk.

WinteRain
08-30-07, 18:46
Softy Softy Softy

Please sit down while you are reading this.

If she was TALL, STUNNING, BIG TITTS. And MOST IMPORTANTLY standing by the door and not inside the main part of the bar. You may just. You may just. You may just have had yourself a Billy Boy.

I hope I am wrong. But I have seen EXACTLY THE SAME CIRCUMSTANCES several times. And they have been Billy Boys.

In this instance. I hope I am wrong. Ummmmm. Ok. I suddenly don't feel horny anymore.

Dpbone
08-30-07, 23:00
Excuse my ignorance, but what's a billy boy?

Cheers

Softy
08-31-07, 01:30
Softy Softy Softy

Please sit down while you are reading this.

If she was TALL, STUNNING, BIG TITTS - and MOST IMPORTANTLY standing by the door and not inside the main part of the bar..................you may just....................you may just.......................you may just have had yourself a Billy Boy.

I hope I am wrong - but I have seen EXACTLY THE SAME CIRCUMSTANCES several times...................and they have been Billy Boys.

In this instance - I hope I am wrong.Because of her height, I was concerned about it prior to taking her out and very carefully evaluated the situation (natural tits, no adams apple, large hips, claimed to have baby, and noticed c-section scar in room), so, that pitfall I think was avoided. Having spent a fair bit of time in Thailand, the questions and evaluation are a bit ingrained in my mongering habits. But, the warning is a fair one my friend as there were a few Billy Boys there that night. And, as Matsu mentioned, near the entrance.

Lu Laosha
08-31-07, 03:32
Hi guys,

Anyone know where I can find this famous huangpi lu bbj factory, I try the other day I didn't see nothing around

Thanks

Mr Fork
08-31-07, 05:03
Yet another report on Buo Duo, from a complete Shanghai newbie. My experience pretty much confirms what has been said before.

I won't bother saying the exact location, as it's been mentioned a few times already. I went there just shortly past 1pm, and the place was almost empty. A young guy asked me something about whether I'd been here before and if I'd bring friends here or something. I just say I'd never been but I'd bring friends around if it was good.
Familiar routine: changed into pyjamas, double-lock lockers, waited 10 minutes or so, watched a bit of TV, had a free can of soft drink, then got taken to the fishbowl and there were 15 girls to choose from. Quality I say: a couple of pretty bad looking girls (4 -- one of them was recommended to me by the woman next to me and I just said "no"), the rest range from 5 to 6.5, a couple of them being 7 to 8. Some with pretty big boobs, but likely to have had a helping hand from push-up bras.
Decided to choose a small petite No.50 with nice breasts. Greeted by girl, who hanged on to my arm right away like a little girl. Took me down a dark and confusing path to a room. Shower, full body scrub with tits, ass and pussy, tongue bath, rimming, BBBJ, CFS, no CIM but pretty much the works. Red rope (which wasn't done very well), and then Schoolgirl outfit, messed around a bit with the rubbish mechanical bed which nobody ever seems to like. Girl responded well to small talk, and giggled and smiled, we had a good laugh, and she gave a pretty good GFE. In the end, asked me how long I'd stay in the city, and gave me her mobile number on a bit of scrap paper, which I had since unfortunately lost. Damage: 780 RMB. Session: 90 minutes. Could have had some free food afterwards, but didn't bother. Highly recommended and definitely worth it, I'll go back.

Eaglestar
08-31-07, 06:42
I found a 38 y/o lady on AFF who says in her profile she is seeking a discreet married man. I wrote her two weeks ago and did not get a reply so she is obviously not interested in me. This is part of what she said.....

"I wish a married, discreet, simple man, having the sense of humor"

Any SENIOR CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS living in Shanghai can PM me for her AFF contact info.


ES

Mock A Bee
08-31-07, 09:22
Hi guys,

Anyone know where I can find this famous huangpi lu bbj factory, I try the other day I didn't see nothing around

Thanks

That place has been closed down for what is probably a couple years by now.
You are a little too late to the party for this place.

I have fond memories of this BBS :)

MAB

Mock A Bee
08-31-07, 09:28
I found that the pharmacy at the Portman Ritz Carlton complex sells Cialis.

One 20mg 138 RMB.

Yeah, but have you tried it yet?
I saw those before, they are right on the counter by the cash register. They have a big display right out in the open, you can't miss them.

Do you necessarily know if it is fake or not?
Does it actually work? or are they just sugar pills?
Just because they are in a pharmacy in a Lao Wai frequenting place does not mean the pharmacy is necessarily credible, and the stuff is real.

Please let us know the results after you take one.

MAB

Levitian
08-31-07, 09:38
Have also been there the other day.

The selection of the girls is not really great, but still, they seem to be motivated to please.

I heart the mamasan saying to the girl I chosed to give me a good service, maybe it is also in order to boost business, which seems to be slow (was there around 6.30 p.m., the place was completely empty).

I did chose Girl No. 85, nice face, quite big - natural - boobs, but a little bit chubby around the hips. Friendly, great service. When it came to offer cosplay, she asked me if I rather would prefer her in some sexy underwear. I optioned for that, and she took out her fishnet body suit.

The place is huge, and apparently still rather new.

Overall quite pleasable, and I actually do like the kinky cosplay option. I will go back.

Levitian

Albert Punter
08-31-07, 09:43
This is same type of comments I was going to make.

Some time ago, it was already debated in another thread of China forum, high possibility of getting non-original drugs from pharmacies in this country. Obviously, when you don't get supposed effect it may seem wasted money only, but there is a potential risk for your health too, depending on ingredients mixed inside.

In other sectors, take very recent examples of toys and clothes manufactured here which have been found containing substances hazardous for health which are no longer used in western countries long time already (lead, etc.).


Yeah, but have you tried it yet?
I saw those before, they are right on the counter by the cash register. They have a big display right out in the open, you can't miss them.

Do you necessarily know if it is fake or not?
Does it actually work? or are they just sugar pills?
Just because they are in a pharmacy in a Lao Wai frequenting place does not mean the pharmacy is necessarily credible, and the stuff is real.

Please let us know the results after you take one.

MAB

Makeupaname
08-31-07, 10:56
I took one late last night and so far I am very happy with the results. It is my first time so I can not compare to US bought cialis. The packaging and pill seemed authenticated based on what I read on here and other places.

I went for drinks and dancing with a girl I see often. Took it about 2am. After my first shot it stayed hard enough to never stop, and was back to raging rock hard within minutes That is definitely not normal for me. I did not tell her I took anything, but she asked me if I took medicine.

Today I feel like a teenager. I am not walking around with a hard on, but I find if I see a sexy woman and think a few dirty thoughts it starts to get hard very easily. I am headed for a massage when I get off work in a few minutes, then going to see the same girl tonight. I will see if its still working. I do have a minor headache all day.


Yeah, but have you tried it yet?

I saw those before, they are right on the counter by the cash register. They have a big display right out in the open, you can't miss them.

Do you necessarily know if it is fake or not?

Does it actually work? or are they just sugar pills?

Just because they are in a pharmacy in a Lao Wai frequenting place does not mean the pharmacy is necessarily credible, and the stuff is real.

Please let us know the results after you take one.

MAB

Ding Ding
08-31-07, 11:21
I checked out the BBSs near LianHuaLu yesterday. To get there, look for some of my old postings in Shanghai where a picture of the street sign is attached.
A taxi will take you there for around 30RMB from for example HengShanLu. They usually go to the subway station. From there go two traffic lights to the east (left direction coming from the ity, opposite to shopping area and Mc Donalds sign) and there turn left(direction back to the city). After 300m shops and BBSs on the right side going for about 500 meters. Plenty of "pink" BBSs there.

This time I tried two. Both on the east side of the street. If ou walk up the street you will come to some small bridge where there is a water barrier. Before this, the last two BBSs served really well.

First one coming from the subway line has a winding stair to go up. I picked a nice girl, we went up and the rooms are tiny, but OK. Bed will be covered by fresh towel. It was just too hot inside. AC present but not running. Starting with a long BBBJ we turned to safe FS and I could do any position without any hurry. Damage was 200RMB. You may have chance to negotiate for 150 I think, especially as a Chinese.

Went to a real massage place on the other side of the road. 40RM for one hour body massage. Nice chance to recover.

So went back and then took the BBS which is closest to the bridge. Also nice girls. Always hard to decide, but picked a tall beauty. Went up and the room was cool, but no fresh towels. No BJ, but a lot of hugging and kissing. Would give here 60% on the GFE scale. Received many smiles as well. Again, no hurry, many positions. She obviously loved deep penetration, so I served her. This time took one of my condoms, because the chinese are just to small. Hard to come in them. Damage again 200RMB, as I just paid and did not discuss the price.

Before going to these places I tried one at the end of this area. There was a really lovely sweety. Bus as soon as I am in the papasan starts joking about the pissible size of my DiDi and scares the girls, so that suddenly no one is willing to go with me. As this joking comes up in almost any BBS, make sure that you place your deal asap if you come from western countries.

In BBSs they usually try to ride you cowgirl style being still on their feet. This is to make you come quickly and have less penetration. If they do so, just lift their ass with your knees and put their feet backwards to get them on their kneys. This changes everything. They also understand, that you know what you are doing and that they should serve you better. Most of the girls enjoy it later on as well.

Found that there is a Motel168 very near by. Building has McDonalds and KFC inside, so if I have some day off, I may go there as basis camp for many trips to the BBSs.

Have fun, Ding Ding.

Hobert Am
08-31-07, 11:33
Been in shanghai for a few days, thought I might drop a report

Ji Yuan, if you go there it's in a big tower at the intersection. If you're standing in the middle of the street in the intersection looking at the building there's 2 valet guys next to a door with neon blue letters - CAN'T MISS it.

- You walk up a flight a stairs to a reception area
- receptionist gives you a wristband and you are led to a waiting room
- change into robe, relax until called
- led to lineup (dimly lit room with girls in it)
- pick girl, girl leads you to one of the the rooms, you know the rest.

Very professional place, I was pleasantly surprised. Ji Yuan is not shady or trashy looking but nicely carpeted and tons of waiter like guys announcing your presence and directing you around, getting drinks. No need to be discrete or "under the breath" here.

Tongren Lu - It's got a rep as a hooker bar street. Actually a pretty small stretch of about 10 bars, a few hundred feet. See lots of older white men with fairly attractive (by my standards and I'm 23) young girls.

Young people - I've noticed a few other young people on this board asking about stuff. To be fair and politically incorrect most of the young white people living in Shanghai who are losers in the states are doing quite well here. Paid well, very well by local standards and social. The only indication they were losers in their home countries are the way they dress/groom, and the way they dance :) Of course I'm not trying to sound judgemental, I think they are quite happy here. I've chatted, chopped it up with a few nerdy looking guys who were with their girlfriends, and some didn't have college degree, a lot teach english, a lot of the kinds of folks you'd see working hourly wage jobs in the states. So Shanghai is definitely a great place to go if one is having hard times in their native country.

Money - Man! Talking to some locals about what people are paid around here, I'm not hugely successful by american standards, though seems I make more than most directors, some VPs of local companies. Was weird going shopping and put a 20000rmb suit on credit card (so I could have my tailor try to copy it, then return the suit afterwards hehe) and people stared at me and at starbucks this girl asked me what I do for a living. I tell her I'm an engineer and she thinks I'm lying - newhire engineers with pHDs, I repeat, doctorates, get only 6k rmb/month here.

Summary - young college graduates with good jobs in the US will have an absolute blast here. One of my friends is interning at Skadden and just told me they pay their new grads at the shanghai office 2.1 million RMB for new hires. Must be insane with that money as a 24-25 year old in this city!

Happy mongering, I still have to visit Waves and Gold Card KTV (per Dragon D's request), will report again later. Also, Dragon D is a nice guy. Not shady at all and he's got a legit business besides doing nightlife tours on the side. I'd highly recommend you sync up with him if you've got the time just to run some facts by him and get travel quotes, shipping information, random stuff as he runs a travel agency.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Tiger 888
08-31-07, 12:27
I checked out the BBSs near LianHuaLu yesterday. To get there, look for some of my old postings in Shanghai where a picture of the street sign is attached.
A taxi will take you there for around 30RMB from for example HengShanLu. They usually go to the subway station. From there go two traffic lights to the east (left direction coming from the ity, opposite to shopping area and Mc Donalds sign) and there turn left(direction back to the city). After 300m shops and BBSs on the right side going for about 500 meters....

The street name is Luo Xiu Lu ( 罗秀路 )

Monkey King
08-31-07, 13:07
Hey WhiteRain,

I live in your neighborhood as well. There are a few local delicacies to choose from. I found a new HJ place on Xietu Lu just west of Damuqiao Lu on the north side of the of street called Peacock massage. Hmmm... pea-cock. Anyways price w/o discount card is 298 rmb. What you get is your own room with private shower. The hostess will give you a 90min oil massage that includes tickling, prostate massage, tongue in your ear, sucking on your neck, nips etc while giving you a slippery HJ. Number 8 is nice... cute face, all smiles.

Another happy HJ is on Shanxi Nan Lu near Zhaojiabang Lu called Tertiary Leisure Time. Weird name, but great 90min HJ's on the third floor for 230-290rmb. 83 and 95 are recommended for their looks. 83 is super sweet and innocent, and looks like she should be in her own fairy tale.

Also in the vicinity are two saunas that I've never been to.

One is on Damuqiao just below Zhaojiabang Lu on the west side of the street. You'll see some sineage with the characters 温泉... and some japanese characters, your key to Sauna-land. There is a staircase leading up with a giant wood carved eagle in a classy looking lobby.

The other is on Xie Tu Lu and the corner of RuiJin Er Lu, right upstairs from the hotel and the Cantonese restaraunt. Can't miss the giant 桑拿 written on the outside. Again, can't comment since I've never been. But maybe you can let me know how they are if you try them out.

play hard,
-MK


Anyone with more Lu Wan area recommendations please? (sauna, bbs, whatever) :)

I'd be happy to check them out and report. Btw, I just got to Shanghai to work. Staying along Xu Jia Hui Road, will be based here long term. I'm a chinese who's english is better than mandarin.

Mr Fork
08-31-07, 13:23
so i popped over to thompson today afternoon, at around 13.30pm. thompson is dead easy to find once you are on the dapu lu, and if you can recognise the chinese characters for "thompson", you'll actually see signs frigging everywhere and you can't possibly miss it. there're about 3 ways to get in there, so it's fool-proof.

by the way, there's a restaurant on the ground floor of the thompson establishment, called "bi feng tang" or something. don't bother going there; the food is pricey and not done well.

anyway, i personally don't like thompson as much as buo duo -- at buo duo the girls wash you and give you a bath in the wet room, and a full body massage on a water/beach bed kind of thing, and then the deal in the dry room. i quite enjoy that. this doesn't happen in thompson.

first, you go into the lockers and the guys help you to get changed and stare at your dick for ages. unlike the kind folks at buo duo who just leave you alone to change into pyjamas. then you're led into a communal shower area to wash yourself, and if you want, have a swim around in the communal pool (the option doesn't look at all appealing). the pole-dancing thing wasn't happening, and instead i was led into the "fishbowl" room of about 10 girls. generally, the quality was 6, with a couple of 7s (one with a really quite athletic-looking body and smallish boobs, face 7 body 8 if you like to try a sporty girl; one a cute petite girl with very big eyes and nice tits and looking very eager to please). there was one particular girl who looked very unenthusiastic (yawning, and i found that so funny i laughed out loud, to the surprise of everyone); and there was another one who looked extremely young (probably a 19yo i guess, a recent recruitment maybe). so i picked the cute petite girl, perhaps no.581, i can't really remember. body 7, face 7, maybe 6.5. then led to a pretty small room by the girl, who was jumping up and down like a little teenager. for some reason, i always end up with the "cute" ones no matter where i go (even in other countries!) and i don't even like women who act like little girls -- but maybe my subconscious actually really like them.

anyway, the girl was all laughing and very chatty. very chatty to herself mostly, i hardly understood her -- quite funnily, she was almost doing her own "commentary" like she was some football commentator on tv whilst getting on with her job, and that nearly got onto my nerves somewhat. the "commentary", as far as i can gather, is in third-person as well... "she is about to stick the tongue...", "she is about to use the ice". eccentric is the nice way of putting it, weird is probably the accurate way of calling it. cath, an extremely professional and thorough rimming, a very well-executed red rope, an almost perfect bbbj. the cfs itself was a bit disappointing. she was trying to get it all over and done with in cowgirl-style, but it lasted for a good 15-20 mins, and not all that much happened -- and i finally finished it off with doggy. far too tired for a second one, so just cuddled, fondled and attempted to chat, not all that bad a gfe. finally, my shoulders were hurting so she gave me a pretty good (though by no means professional) massage to finish off the 90-minute session. then led back to the communal shower area, got stared at again by the curious dudes helping me to put on my clothes, and there were about three other chinese guys there, two ready to leave, one ready to go into fishbowl. damage: 600. it is a little cheaper than buo duo, but i like the bath at buo duo. oh, and when i left, i managed to get a peek at the fishbowl again, and saw the "no.195" winterain mentioned. and i absolutely agree with winte's opinion -- this woman with glasses surely does look pretty special, and stands out from the rest. my personal taste would say she's an 8. but i think she's also a bit older than the other girls, maybe late-20s, early-30s, but hey ymmv. she definitely caught my eye and i'd have chosen her if she was available.

so overall: buo duo or thompson? hard to say. at the moment given my newbie experience with both, buo duo edges slightly. but thompson has "no.195" that's definitely worth your trip imo, and there's this girl with the athletic body that's quite interesting. whereas buo duo girls give a better bath, and i like the buo duo venue a bit better. so...

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Monkey King
08-31-07, 13:25
Hey, it's the 500 Wuzhong Lu Sauna again. So there showers aren't that great and the girls are never 9's but I always seem to have a fun time at this place.

Updates.

-The KTV upstairs portion has been removed. The rooms have been re-modeled into new massage rooms and the old massage rooms have been renovated into new resting rooms.

-They now offer a 'three legged' oil massage if you do the sauna package for only 100rmb more. Massage is 45minutes. Their masseuse have been transfered over from Datang Yujing sauna which I hear will be shut down soon.

-Free food. Yep, noodles, wontons, beer.

Okay, so the girls! Same type of service as before with the new option of butt plugs (no thanks, put that weapon away). Picked #809 off the lineup of 10 or so girls. Last time they were wearing school girl outfits, now their wearing tiny tear away top and skirt. 809, she's from some in the mountain ethinic minority in Guangxi. Pert, petite, with a deep sultry voice. Nice fat-free figure with itty bitty titties. She has mad skills and will suck your east west. The FS was full of rough screaming dirty talk from such a tiny girl. She could twist, squirm, and do all those things like a porn star. Afterwards we shared a beer and smoke in the last five minutes.

Enjoy this one! She's a hot number.

play hard,
MK

Banshee Beat
08-31-07, 15:30
Hi all,

I stumbled onto this forum by chance today and funny enough, the first place I read about, Thompsons, is a place I pass by almost everyday en route to the Shang Dao Cafe and Pc room directly across from it. I took a careful look again just now on my way to the pc room and sure enough there was a large flashing neon light sign with tom mu son in large letters a couple steps away from where I usually walk. I'll definitely have to try it out sometimes. Meanwhile in the past few months I've frequented a couple BBSs on the corner of Da Pu Lu and Zhong Shan Nan Er Lu. In that area there are about 7+ BBSs, the prices range from 150-200 depending on if you want a BBBJ first before FS or not. The girls are mostly average though most of the time when I go there I'm already trashed. However every BBS has at least 1 or 2 really nice ones but it depends on your luck if they are available or not. The usual procedure is, enter, pick a girl, then you will be led to a room with a bed and ac or sometimes a cubicle like place with only a curtain. The max time is 45 minutes. I would say the variance in service is high but for 150, 300 for two, it's usually satisfying. Most important thing is to take your time and pick the best looking girl. They usually have an order of who goes next but you often will get the one who no one picks. If you have any questions feel free to ask.

WinteRain
08-31-07, 16:26
Damage: 780 RMB. Session: 90 minutes. Could have had some free food afterwards, but didn't bother. Highly recommended and definitely worth it, I'll go back.Did you only had one shot?

Seems like selection of girls at Buo Duo is pretty bad. I'd like to check it out asap when I get back to Shanghai. At Taipei for 2 weeks now, and it's pretty boring here. I can't go back to Thompson for the time being coz I'm seeing a girl there, be kinda wierd.

WinteRain
08-31-07, 16:28
Hey WhiteRain,

I live in your neighborhood as well. There are a few local delicacies to choose from. I found a new HJ place on Xietu Lu just west of Damuqiao Lu on the north side of the of street called Peacock massage. Hmmm... pea-cock. Anyways price w/o discount card is 298 rmb. What you get is your own room with private shower. The hostess will give you a 90min oil massage that includes tickling, prostate massage, tongue in your ear, sucking on your neck, nips etc while giving you a slippery HJ. Number 8 is nice... cute face, all smiles.

Another happy HJ is on Shanxi Nan Lu near Zhaojiabang Lu called Tertiary Leisure Time. Weird name, but great 90min HJ's on the third floor for 230-290rmb. 83 and 95 are recommended for their looks. 83 is super sweet and innocent, and looks like she should be in her own fairy tale.

Also in the vicinity are two saunas that I've never been to.

One is on Damuqiao just below Zhaojiabang Lu on the west side of the street. You'll see some sineage with the characters 温泉... and some japanese characters, your key to Sauna-land. There is a staircase leading up with a giant wood carved eagle in a classy looking lobby.

The other is on Xie Tu Lu and the corner of RuiJin Er Lu, right upstairs from the hotel and the Cantonese restaraunt. Can't miss the giant 桑拿 written on the outside. Again, can't comment since I've never been. But maybe you can let me know how they are if you try them out.

Play hard,

MKCool man. Thanks alot for the heads up. The HJ places seem to be a good and cheap alternative to a relaxing time. I don't think I can last 30mins for a single HJ though! Let alone 90mins. Will check out your list from top to bottom and report back when I do. :)

Banshee Beat
08-31-07, 19:35
Hi all, I stumbled upon this site by accident today and funny enough the first place I read about, Thompsons, I pass by almost everyday en route to the Shang Dao Cafe or Pc room right across from it. Tonight while I was walking by I took a glance around and surely enough there was a high neon sign with the characters, ton mu sen. Definitely will try it when I get a chance. Meanwhile in the past several months I've frequented several BBSs along Zhong Shan Nan Er Lu, from Damuqiao Lu to Da Pu Lu.

http://sh.city8.com/panosearch-pid18311_TE97-ptz2.179_0.206_1.309-ctps-sn_u_6253_u_6D66_u_8DEF_u_4E2D_u_5C71_u_5357_u_4E8C_u_8DEF.html

There are about 8+ BBSs in that area. The prices range from 150-200 depending on if you want a BBBJ first or just FS. The girls are mostly average at best but every BBS has one or two really attractive ones. It's up to your luck to see if they're available or not when you go in. The rooms range from private rooms with nice sized beds and ac to a simple cubicle like space with only curtains. Max time is 45 minutes. Make sure you take your time to pick the best girl instead of letting the one who's supposed to go next take you. Overall for 200 yuan it's a satisfying experience. Quality ranges from 5-9

Mr Fork
09-01-07, 02:12
Did you only had one shot?

Seems like selection of girls at Buo Duo is pretty bad. I'd like to check it out asap when I get back to Shanghai. At Taipei for 2 weeks now, and it's pretty boring here. I can't go back to Thompson for the time being coz I'm seeing a girl there, be kinda wierd.I only had one shot, but I am pretty sure a second shot was on the menu if I wanted.

I'd say the selection at Buo Duo is OK: but you've got to look carefully for the 7/8, go there when it's empty (early afternoon), and you just have to be plain lucky for the two or three hotties to be available.

Shanghai O Good
09-01-07, 03:08
Hello Everybody,

Long time reader first time poster. I had read through 100 pages of good reports from great seniors and I have finally moved here in Shanghai. I am from sunny Singapore and will be working here in Shanghai for 2 years. Hopefully I will be able to get some girls and write reports as contributions to the board.

I would like to ask a question: Besides using Private Mail, does any member here know how to get in touch with the Shanghai gang or the leaders of the gang: Ace Gallent or Blacklist? I have yet to be convinced to subscribe for a membership and so I do not have mail function. I understand that the Shanghai gang knows a lot about Shanghai, are cool guys and their favorite hideout is in Ton Ren Road?

Thank you,

Henry

Mr Fork
09-01-07, 04:19
So are there women from the CIS in Shanghai?

Been RTFF, and have not found any recent info on the existance of Russians in this city? Sorry if this question's been answered before.

Bad Boy Billy
09-01-07, 06:14
So are there women from the CIS in Shanghai?

Been RTFF, and have not found any recent info on the existance of Russians in this city? Sorry if this question's been answered before.

Yes there are - Manahattan Bar and Judys on Tongren Lu - Bar Rouge on the Bund.

Min 1000 ST - 2500 LT - good luck - please report

Herr Pollon
09-01-07, 11:39
Yes there are - Manahattan Bar and Judys on Tongren Lu - Bar Rouge on the Bund.

Min 1000 ST - 2500 LT - good luck - please reportAs it is forbidden to discuss Transexuals I'll not go deep into the subject. JUST keep your eyes OPEN at those places when you''re looking for russian girls

Nice Aussie Guy
09-01-07, 12:54
Hi everyone,

After my disasterous time in Xi'an (see Xi'an reports today) I arrived in Shanghai. I'the read of a sauna/soapland in a previous post and decided to give it a try. I don't speak any Chinese, so I wrote out the following directions, which I then gave the cab driver. The trip from the Shangahi train station to Buo Duo Hui Suo sauna took about 10 minutes and cost 17 yuen. It was a Sunday afternoon, about 4. 30pm.

Buo Duo Hui Suo (? ) sauna in the Big Century Mart (? )supermarket building, on Xie tu Lu (? )near Lu Ban Lu (? )elevated road at Lu Wan (? )

As you face the Big Century mart, the entrance to the sauna is on the far right. Above the entrance you can read the characters? , so you know that you're there. There's a couple of guys sitting around and there's two elevators. Go to the second one, nearest the far wall, and take it up to the 4th floor.

It's unbelievable inside, very smart, but no-one seemed to speak much English. But they knew what I wanted. So, they showed me to a private room where they gave me a key to a locker and the usual pajamas (free). I got undressed, put on pajamas and sat in an easy chair and waited for about 5 minutes. Then a Chinese woman came and got me and took me to the viewing room. Looking through the two-way mirror, I could see about 10 girls. All pretty good, 20's and ranging froms maybe 6s to 8s. (I guess we all operate off our own scale). I used the most reliable method, I picked the one that looked interested and smiled a lot. And I wasn't disappointed.

No. 59 was a girl named Zoo Zoo (it's probably spelt Xiu Xiu or similar I guess). She was 24 old, maybe 34C, nice figure and very happy and friendly. She took me to our room and then straight into GFE, kissing, fondling etc. After about 10 minutes of this it was shower time. Lots of action there, then to the big bed. She was so hot! We kissed and fooled around a bit and she gave great BBBJ. I was fingering her and she was wet and loving it. We then tried lots of positions, mish, up against the wall, doggie etc. At some stage she'the pulled out a sexy little outfit from her bag which she put on, just to add to the fun. Finally I could hold back no longer and came until I thought I would feint.

After that we showered, dried ourselves and fooled around some more. Even though she spoke no English, she smiled and kidded around and we had a good time.

Then I started kissing my way down her body until I got to that part of a woman that will always hold strong men captive. Now guys, I never DATY, it's unsafe practice. But with this girl I just couldn't help it. I don't know if you've ever watched the Scottish comedian, Billy Connely? Well I took his advice and treated the pussy they way that you use the cutlery in a fine restaurant. Always start on the outside, and work your way in the centre. She just went wild. And my god, was she wet? She was soaking and just going crazy. My old fella couldn’t take much more of this, so she indicated another session. Now I’ve got to tell you all, I’m sixty, and at my age you don’t get many second shots off so quickly. But this time I did, there was no way of stopping me. I was in heaven.

What a great gal. If any of you pay her visit, please by nice to her – she’s a good girl.

Afterwards we showered again and she took me back out to reception. 780 yuen. Money very well spent. I certainly walked around for the rest of the evening with a smile on my face.

Next port of call Hong Kong. If you’re interested, hop over to that posting to see how I went next.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

OldAsiaHand
09-01-07, 13:32
Hooked up with the guys this week in Shanghai. Even the infamous, Dragon D came along for the ride, but there was no business for him with the veterans of the game.

After a "war story" swapping dinner, they graciously showed me some nearby BBS. There are 3 things about Shanghai BBS that I dislike. Most of them are run by men, they nearly all try to charge a 50% or more lao wai surcharge and want the money upfront. On the other hand, I did notice that some of them are providing disposable sheets. Compared with the sleazy assed accomodations we often get in S. China, this is a nice touch.

Looking for takeout, the first 5-6 shops refused. Blacklisted recommended Miss Burma at a shop they normally patronize. She was not really my type so I opted for her side kick from Hubei. 300 RMB ST takeaway paid in advance. Service was just average as MAB had warned. After removing her push-up bra, I was very disappointed. After about an hour since we left the BBS, the lao ban called her and she started to suggest more money for more time and wanted me to decide if I wanted her LT for 600 total or not. I finished off and sent her on her way with 25 RMB for a taxi since it was a bit far from my hotel.

Next night, I had my usual Shanghai freebie so did not go out to play. I wanted to try the new BJ factory, but will have to wait for the next trip.

OAH

Wt Smith3
09-01-07, 17:20
Hi, everyone. I just joined though I've been an avid reader of this forum when I broke my hobby cherry in BKK. For some reason, I'm having a more difficult time understanding the hobby here in Shanghai. I'm wondering if it's the language barrier but my learning curve in BKK was much shorter.

Anyway, I tried the Yuki Massage that I read earlier (I'm assuming it's the one advertised in the SD). The girl arrived very shortly which pleasantly shocked me. Anyway, when I called the number, I asked if the rate (200rmb) included sex and she said yes. I was in for a neophyte surprise. The girl was cute and she proceeded to undress and give me one of the tongue baths with some rimming and good BBBJ. Things were looking up when she asked if I wanted sex. Of course I said yes but then she asked if I have a condom. : (Nope. Oh well. I proceeded to taste her (which was nice) until she had an O. She then helped me with a HJ. She cleaned me up and gave me an alright massage (at my request).

She then said that she needed to go (this was after 30-45 min). I said fine and gave her the 200 rmb. She said it was 500 rmb because she took off her clothes and did additional services. I disagreed and gave her 350rmb but a little upset. I would have insisted she stay for the 2 hours that was in the ad. She took it and left. Nice girl but I just didn't understand how this outcall massage thing worked.

Before calling on Yuki, I called another escort agency. This is their URL: http://www.shanghai-escort.com/ the scheduler was very nice and pleasant and sent me a girl that met my expectations. The problem was that the price was very expensive (1500rmb). The service was great. BBBJ/cim, couple shots but I still think I could do better.

Wt Smith3
09-01-07, 17:28
You saw a couple of my experiences and I'm trying to find out convenient locations. I would love to visit these massage places (where you choose your girl) or BBS (I still don't know what these are. I'll search more). They remind me of the massage places in BKK.

Regarding Buo Duo, what do I tell the taxi to get me there (since I don't speak the language)? And is it easy to wave a taxi coming back to my hotel?

I saw the thread about providers around the Radisson New World but another thread mentioned that the JC Mandarin (which isn't that far away from the Radisson) is closer to some mongering areas. What areas are these? I'm not looking for bars/clubs like TRL or XTD but are there massage places in the area?

Thank you

Member #4358
09-01-07, 18:31
First time post, long time reader. I have spent multiple hours reading through the posts in this section but I can't seem to find what I am seeking. Can some of the well seasoned Shanghai travelers help me find:

1) Nice hotel in Shanghai
2) With high quality massage in the hotel, that also offers soapy/full service?

I will only be visiting Shanghai for 2 1/2 days (my first visit) in October and I will have a relative traveling along. I need to book a hotel in Shanghai, and would like to be able to slip out (upstairs/downstairs, etc) for a 1-2 hour excurision(s). Price can be higher, because I would have to pay for the convenience w/out the time to scout other venues.

The Thompson massage sounds interesting, but not sure if there are any nice quality hotels within short walking distance of it. Thinking that an in hotel massage would be the best bet.

I will be happy to post my experience(s) upon returning!

Thanks in advance.

Lao Ma
09-02-07, 03:17
Midnightio, just stay at the Shanghai Hotel, it's okay to pretty nice. Or you can stay at Equitorial or Hilton, which are just around the block. Hilton is very nice imo; they also are the first hotel in Shanghai to eliminate trans-fats in their cooking completely in some of their restaurants.

If your business is in Pudong, stay at Courtyard by Marriott or the Intercontinental. Both have options within walking distance.

Member #4358
09-02-07, 04:30
Midnightio, just stay at the Shanghai Hotel, it's okay to pretty nice. Or you can stay at Equitorial or Hilton, which are just around the block. Hilton is very nice imo; they also are the first hotel in Shanghai to eliminate trans-fats in their cooking completely in some of their restaurants.

If your business is in Pudong, stay at Courtyard by Marriott or the Intercontinental. Both have options within walking distance.Thank you Lao Ma for the quick post. Can you make sure I have identified the correct Shanghai Hotel - is this the correct one?

http://www.asiarooms.com/china/shanghai/shanghai-hotel-gallery.html
Address : 505 Wulumuqi Bei Road Shanghai P.r.c.

I am looking more at the Equatorial Hotel (Address : 65 Yanan Road West Shanghai 200040 China) - this looks like the correct one. It looks a bit nicer to suit my traveling companion - and if it is possible to walk to the Shanghai Hotel from the Equatorial I am going to try that.

Philfun
09-02-07, 04:53
I have found this website very useful to locate any address in Shanghai:
http://sh.city8.com

You just need to copy/paste the Chinese address in the search field, then press enter.

For example, enter 吴中路500,then you can see the sauna on 500 Wu Zhong road.
Map and 3D pictures and zoom option are proposed. However, no pictures of inside line-up available, yet … ;)

You can practice on the following list of Shanghai sauna i got recently on the web :

1 . 蓝溪温泉 : 水城路718号
2 . 青山会所 : 天钥桥路999号
3 . 思源会所 : 张杨路818号3f new
4 . 汤之都 : 南丹东路238号金轩大酒店5楼
5 . 汤岛会所 : 吴中路1099号2
6 . 盛世 : 百官街1号
7 . 申涛苑 :乌鲁木齐北路468弄32号
8 . 同沁苑 :万航渡路2579号
9 . 海浪会所 :中山西路1277号海螺大厦
10 . 金顶会所 :武定西路1185号莫泰168 3F
11 . 大西洋7M :华山路2018号
12 . """"""""""" :柳洲路545号
13 . 名殿会所 :浦东南路1085号 5F
14 . 金萨 :仙霞路437号2楼
15 . 皇宫桑拿 :嵩山路77号上海皇宫
16 . 博多会所 :斜土路645号 4F new
17 . 汤之乡 :虹古路447号
18 . 玉屏 : 遵义路448号
19 . 原宿会所 :乌鲁木齐北路209号 5F
21 . 9点钟会所 :安龙路485号z"y:y]
22 . 吉原会所 :胶州路609号
23 . 云山温泉 : 虹梅路3911号 4F
24 . 吉田会所 :漕溪北路737号
25 . 汤田会所 :乌鲁木齐北路505号上海宾馆 2F
26 . 碧丽湖 :金珠路50号
27 . 中田会所 : 兴义路8号 B1
28 . 百万石 : 吴中路8号锦辉宾馆 4F0k
29 . 裕田 : 愚园路433号
30 . 皇家银泉 :天山支路160号_
31 . 智慧泉 :武宁南路488号 5F
32 . 长乐 :长寿路401号顶楼
33 . 舒怡泉 :延安中路825号
34 . 士嘉堡 : 延平路128号

Those who want to get the corresponding “pin yin” address, just use free online Chinese dictionary to convert, for example:

http://www.xuezhongwen.net

For lazy guys, i attach the already converted “pin yin” address list (2 pages).

Enjoy !

PF

Hongkongfooey
09-02-07, 07:57
Went to Shanghai recently and had a great time. Getting too and from places was the hardest part. To help any new people out I picked up a couple of cards from Thomsons and a similar club that I don't know the name of but whose number I got from here. Both places gave excellent service. The scan qualiy isn't good but you should still be able to print them off to give to taxi drivers.

LittleGoomba
09-02-07, 10:52
Hello Everybody,

Long time reader first time poster. I had read through 100 pages of good reports from great seniors and I have finally moved here in Shanghai.................. I have yet to be convinced to subscribe for a membership and so I do not have mail function.

Thank you,
Henry

Uh dude, why don't you just pay the twenty bucks? It seems you've already gotten your money's worth.

Nice Aussie Guy
09-02-07, 12:06
I posted the actual address directions with Chinese characters, but they didn't seem to come through, so I'll try again. Just enlarge the print and give it to the cab driver. Good luck, and let us all know how you go.

Buo Duo Hui Suo(博多会所
Century Mart (世纪联华)supermarket
Xie tu Lu(斜土路)near Lu Ban Lu(鲁班路 elevated road
Lu Wan(卢湾)district

WinteRain
09-02-07, 13:34
Uh dude, why don't you just pay the twenty bucks? It seems you've already gotten your money's worth.Hell I paid em' twenty bucks just to look at em' pictures.

Hobert Am
09-03-07, 05:09
Last night was at Ji Yuan again. As I was leaving around 2am I heard a commotion in the hallway. Turns out an American was dissatisfied with his girl and was demanding a new girl

I ended up translating between him and the mamasan. Unfortunately it was 2am so all the free girls had already gone home for the night so he grudgingly decided to finish with the present girl.

If he's on this board, I hope you had a good time in the end and better luck next time, sorry you weren't able to get a replacement girl.

So heads up, definitely nobody there speaks english lol.

Herr Pollon
09-03-07, 07:09
Went to Shanghai recently and had a great time. Getting too and from places was the hardest part. To help any new people out I picked up a couple of cards from Thomsons and a similar club that I don't know the name of but whose number I got from here. Both places gave excellent service. The scan qualiy isn't good but you should still be able to print them off to give to taxi drivers.WTF?

Does this looks like spam to anybody else?

Albert Punter
09-03-07, 10:02
Please refer to these posts, where you can find many useful infos to find some

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=437583&postcount=4772

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=608050&postcount=8904



... I'm trying to find out convenient locations. I would love to visit these massage places (where you choose your girl) or BBS (I still don't know what these are. I'll search more).
...

Sauro07
09-03-07, 13:51
Before calling on Yuki, I called another escort agency. This is their URL: http://www.shanghai-escort.com/ the scheduler was very nice and pleasant and sent me a girl that met my expectations. The problem was that the price was very expensive (1500rmb). The service was great. BBBJ/cim, couple shots but I still think I could do better.Wt, would you recommend Yuki or not after this experience? What about with the shanghai-escort.com, can you tell which girl you chose and how was the experience? I'm also more on room service than going out.

Thanks, cheers,

Sauro07

Malakingtiti
09-03-07, 14:21
Guys,

I am here to report that the Shanghai Hotel Spa is alive and well. I write this report fresh from a session at the infomous Shaghai Hotel Spa for men.

First the details: Usual 750 rmb (650 rmb if you show up before 5:00pm) for one hour of "massage services". Had a brutal day of biz dealings, Iwas not particular interested in trecking to the SH hotel with the recent reports of it being closed and all. Showed up 8:00pm anyway, where the manager, assitant manager and 2 towel boyz whisked me past the front desk to the locker room. It was completely dead - I was the only one in sight (so far so good). From the locker room, made my way to the landing pad after a quick shower where the towel boyz dressed me in a cotton leisure shorts and shirt.

Instead of leading you to the "waiting room" where you are force fed unknown drinks and a pedicure, I was lead down a hall,left, left, right, left and another right to a room full of 16 beauties. I swear guys this was a tough choice of solid 7-9's standing tall beauties. I went straight to the biggest rack of the bunch, #69 who led me (arm in arm) down the EMPTY hallway to a room.

From here it is all up to the girl, but I can tell you that #69 was stacked and used here assets to give me a full body massage. A littel about #69, 24, no kids, tone, very flat stomach, bit of an ass, and the eys - WOW. Honestly she didnt look asian to me, bif round eyes with huge eyelashes. After a full body tit massage I was getting in the mood, but realized ther was no music in the room. A bit of a romantic, I asked her if there was any music in the room. She immediately said "music" got dressed and left the room. ummmmm, what the F just happened. Within 1 minute she returns with her phone and puts on some bumping music. Well, well that was sweet, now we got down to business listening to some great tunes!

After a bit, the red sash came out but we engaged in some creative fun, so the red sash was left untouched.

Guys, I was smitten for this girl and cant recommend enough to check out the SH Spa!

Happy hunting.

Brooklyn Cyclone
09-03-07, 16:06
Hey WhiteRain,

I live in your neighborhood as well. There are a few local delicacies to choose from. I found a new HJ place on Xietu Lu just west of Damuqiao Lu on the north side of the of street called Peacock massage. Hmmm... pea-cock. Anyways price w/o discount card is 298 rmb. What you get is your own room with private shower. The hostess will give you a 90min oil massage that includes tickling, prostate massage, tongue in your ear, sucking on your neck, nips etc while giving you a slippery HJ. Number 8 is nice... cute face, all smiles.

Another happy HJ is on Shanxi Nan Lu near Zhaojiabang Lu called Tertiary Leisure Time. Weird name, but great 90min HJ's on the third floor for 230-290rmb. 83 and 95 are recommended for their looks. 83 is super sweet and innocent, and looks like she should be in her own fairy tale.

Also in the vicinity are two saunas that I've never been to.

One is on Damuqiao just below Zhaojiabang Lu on the west side of the street. You'll see some sineage with the characters 温泉... and some japanese characters, your key to Sauna-land. There is a staircase leading up with a giant wood carved eagle in a classy looking lobby.

The other is on Xie Tu Lu and the corner of RuiJin Er Lu, right upstairs from the hotel and the Cantonese restaraunt. Can't miss the giant 桑拿 written on the outside. Again, can't comment since I've never been. But maybe you can let me know how they are if you try them out.

play hard,

-MKAny recommendation for Huihai Road near Xintiandi? Seems like most actions happen near Hilton area.

Albert Punter
09-04-07, 09:55
Read here http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=518604&postcount=7129
or allow me to give me some clues
a) stroll in front of Hilton in search for street girls;
b) try bars in Julu Lu, which is almost in front of Hilton, for some take-away;
c) try big massage place in front of Hilton, in case you are up just for HJ;
d) move north to Tongren Lu bars strip, intersection with Yanan Lu, for take-away;
e) move farther north to Malone's for take away;
f) move farther north to the Pub, for a quick "on premises" release ;
g) move south to Zapata's and other venues in Hengshan Lu, for take-away;
h) move east to Xin Tian Di bars, for take-away;
i) take a girl from Equatorial Hotel karaoke, which is right around the corner on Yanan Lu (in case you are willing to spend);
j) try very famous "red rope" experiences at Shanghai Hotel sauna, just around the corner on 505 Wulumuqi Lu.


Any recommendation for Huihai Road near Xintiandi? Seems like most actions happen near Hilton area.

Wt Smith3
09-04-07, 11:19
Wt, would you recommend Yuki or not after this experience? What about with the shanghai-escort.com, can you tell which girl you chose and how was the experience? I'm also more on room service than going out.

Thanks, cheers,

Sauro0707. I believe her name was Mary at the S-E.com site. If you use the Chat feature on the website, the manager is very helpful. Regarding the Yuki service, I guess that I would not have been upset if they had informed me of the menu.

Regarding Yuki: It sounds like a one pop and done service. I'd rather try the saunas.

Wt Smith3
09-04-07, 11:23
One thing I have noticed lately and it can not be just coincidence. 2 of the 3 girls that I have seen so far this trip have refused DATY. Both also professed that aunt flo was coming up. Is this common? How do you get around it, if at all?

Xxanty
09-04-07, 14:08
Hello, freinds

I am a newbie to Shanghai. I will be in shanghai on end of September. Would you please help me about:

1- Where to stay ? wich side is better ?
2- Which hotel is good for stay ? girl friendly ?

Your replies will be highly appreciated.

Thanx

Phenyl
09-04-07, 14:46
To followup on AP's excellent overview of the Hilton area.

The Massage place directly across the street from the Hilton is tempting when you stroll past, but the service is highly variable. I went there a number of times (before finding the ISG board.), but not in the past year or so. The massages vary from excellent to useless, but the HJ pricing seems designed for the rich laowai staying at the Hilton hotel. Advantage is that most of the girls speak at least some english and the place opens at around 10 AM. But that's it.

After a perfunctory massage, they tended to lead with a "500 RMB is too much to ask, but. ", but getting them to a more reasonable level was difficult. Generally got it down to 150. 200 RMB (I know, too much, but that was before having the ISG Advantage) but the attitude of the girl was that she was making a huge sacrifice at that price (sometimes, not always) or a fairly mechanical wank. Some will let your hands wander, others had a "don't touch me" attitude. Maybe they reserve the good service for the 500 RMB customers.

They also seemed to run on a rotation, although I imagine you could ask for a different girl.

However, I did have one of my best HJ experiences there on a slow morning. Girl had great attitude very friendly, gave a really terrific massage, and after the excellent HJ cleaned me up and continued with more excellent massage. Unfortunately I was leaving that day, otherwise would have gone back to her and tried to develop things further than the HJ-only rules of the place. But all in all, the batting average was too low to continue.

There are many other, better choices in the area.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Monkey King
09-04-07, 15:03
Any recommendation for Huihai Road near Xintiandi? Seems like most actions happen near Hilton area.

Pick up some chicks at Babyface, Pegasus, or Starbucks.

..or spend a grip at City Sauna next to HK Plaza. 7F, look for signage outside. 900rmb HJ's with a nice view.

-MK

Schulli
09-04-07, 20:21
Hi guys,

I stay at Shanghai this week my first time, see above.

Anyone who likes to go to the KTV?

Best

The Rooster
09-04-07, 22:23
So I've somewhat "officially" moved to Shanghai; I'm now living 4 weeks in China, 6 weeks in the US. Have a Shanghaiese gf who expects me to play when I'm not in Shanghai! Thre restrictions only from her:

1. My heart is hers, no one elses
2. No playing in Shanghai without her (yes, we've had a few P4P 3-somes)
3. If I play elsewhere, do it safe

Well, Shanghai IS a big monger-town, but rule number 2 with the 3-some exception means that it's really only the saunas and incall BBSes that are off the market. And I don't mind!

So anyway, as I was settling in to my new apartment over in Minhang (gf moves in during October), I took a long stroll. The rain and cooler temps are pretty nice for me. Better than the heat!

Walked for a good 20 minutes, and came across Huayou Lu. It's 1 block north of the indoor ski stadium, starts at Qixin Lu and heads east. And that's what you want to do, too! Between Qixin and the next road, Hualin Lu, on the north side of the street there's 5 BBSes there. Tucked away, quiet little street, and as I walked by and window-gazed all were filled with 4-5 girls each, ranging from 4s to actual 8s.

Now, I didn't stop to sample the wares. I'm going to try to play by the rules. But did talk to a couple of the mommies. Standard setup, quick quote of 250RMB for ST, 800RMB for LT. I'm sure those are Laowai prices, and with a bit of negotiating prices will drop right in line. All said they were open from 12:00 to 3:00, so good options.

Anyway, just throught I'the let any fellow SW Shanghai folks know of a new out-of-the-way location, DEFINITELY not on the normal Laowai track! In the whole hour walk I took, I didn't see another foreigner, and got plenty of "what the hell is he doing here! He must be lost! " looks from shopkeepers and workers.

WinteRain
09-05-07, 05:30
Hello, freinds

I am a newbie to Shanghai. I will be in shanghai on end of September. Would you please help me about:

1- Where to stay ? wich side is better ?
2- Which hotel is good for stay ? girl friendly ?

Your replies will be highly appreciated.

ThanxDear senior members, allow me.

Xxanyty, go through the past 20 pages of posts, which will take you probably less than an hour, and you'll find what you're looking for. :)

WinteRain
09-05-07, 05:35
One thing I have noticed lately and it can not be just coincidence. 2 of the 3 girls that I have seen so far this trip have refused DATY. Both also professed that aunt flo was coming up. Is this common? How do you get around it, if at all?China girls are quite paranoid about the human saliva (probably coz of the hygiene quality of the food here), most will not let you DATY coz they think that saliva will cause bacterial infection or somewhat. If you really want to, just insist, say "just for awhile" or something.. then usually after a lick or two, they'll gladly oblige.

Other girls, simply aren't used to the ticklish feeling (or so they claim, hell I wish I knew how it felt like for a girl to be DATYed). But I think the main reason is still point 1, I tried to use some spit to lub up my drying condom once on my gf, and she stopped me, and used water instead. Now we all know how water doesn't work as a lub.

Shanghaied2001
09-05-07, 07:29
Hi Guys,

Against my better judgement, I tried a massage offered by an advert I saw on shanghai craigslist:


Hi dear,

How are you! Thank you so much for your interest. Also, I am so glad that I can hear from you. I really hope that everything is going very well with you.

As an experienced and attractive masseuse, my rates are as follows:
(1) Pure relaxing massage with oil -----300 RMB per hour.
(2) The relaxing massage with oil plus the extra service ----500 RMB per hour.
(3) The Inclusive Service ( Full Service) ----900 RMB per hour .

( Note: I perfer to receive the money in Chinese Yuan – RMB or Hong Kong Dollars , Thanks )

About myself: I am in my thirties. I am an attractive, easy going person. I like to laugh and to have a nice smile on my face. Also, I like to have a great fun, and I enjoy the great sex so much. I definitely know how to please a man and exactly know what a man what.

I have been doing the massage for quite a while. I learned how to do the massage in a Chinese Clinic. The most important thing is I speak very good English. We never would have the communication problem and I understand the western culture very well.

I Do look forward to seeing you soon. Please give the notice as early as you can. Normally I prefer 4-5 hours early notice if it is OK with you. Thank you very much! Also, I have a nice and new private place in Shanghai. You are very welcome to come over to my place if you want.

My mobile in Shanghai is 133****3758. Please feel free to call me at that number so that we may have a little nice chat before we meet. Good idea?

Please find my photo as well. I do wish we can meet soon and have the great fun together. Please take care of yourself. Do hope to hear from you very soon! Love from Nan NanIn her email, she also sent a nice body shot with white smooth skin, no face though. The person who turned up was close to 40 and had a tummy. Looked more like an Ayi!!

Should just stick to saunas - at least you know what you're paying for..!!

Wt Smith3
09-05-07, 08:05
Ok. I was finally able to use the address descriptions to get to Buo Duo. I was a bit confused though. When I got to the Century Mart and saw the entry on the right side, there was a sign above that said Tompson's. I thought this place was somewhere else. The rest was in characters so I could not tell if it said Buo Duo. Anyway, I went up to the 4th floor as directed. Impressive digs. You wouldn't have expected such as nice place when looking from the outside.

They took care of me quite well though the price they gave me was 780rmb but I was thinking it was a bit late, around 9pm weekday. Anyway, I chose a #25, cute 19yo from shenyang. We went through the body shampoo and the red rope thing (which was different but I wouldn't do it again). My problem was they had this mechanical bed which (when the guy is lying on his back) pumps for you. That thing was strong! To a point where it was hurting and uncomfortable esp since she was coming down close to my abdomen area. To say the least, I couldn't even must one ring after that. She was disappointed and she tried. I am not mad at her or the place. I chalk it up to experience. Now I know what I want and not want the next time I'm there.

One more thing. Consistent with my earlier post. She did not let me do daty. It frustrates me 'cause I get into it as well.

Albert Punter
09-05-07, 08:25
Xxanty,

after more than a month your second post is more or less like first one.
Nobody replied then because it seemed your request was too wide, besides the fact that almost all infos you require are here already.

As I don't want you to feel frustrated, I invite you to read these
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=437583&postcount=4772
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=608050&postcount=8904
and then make more specific questions which will be surely answered.


Hello, freinds

I am a newbie to Shanghai. I will be in shanghai on end of September. Would you please help me about:

1- Where to stay ? wich side is better ?
2- Which hotel is good for stay ? girl friendly ?

Your replies will be highly appreciated.

Thanx

Getting It On
09-05-07, 10:49
I'm a newbie that started out posting in the Hanoi, Vietnam thread. So enough of that. I'm in China for the month and would like some advise. I hope I don't bore you guys and especially seniors with this

I answered an ad/classified from some shanghai personal website or something like that. So anyway, I got to know this girl and she is offering escort services. 24hours = RMB 2000 in Shanghai.

She has sent me her pics and she looks okay. Claims to be a student, 23 y. O. Doing this as part-time. But during the second email (3 only), she said I asked too many questions and got angry with me. In the all her emails, she promotes what she will do to me and what I can do to her in the dirty chat style. She says she can be anyone I want her to be cute to sexy **** and do anything.

Here's the questions I asked her: I mentioned that I won't negotiate on her RMB 2000 asking price; If she is a university student, doesnt she have to attend classes? ; send me natural pictures of herself and NOT studio (because 2 that she sent looks like different people). And thats it.

But after countering with her about her angry response, because I need to have some chemistry and know who is going to escort me, she sent me 3 pics.

So should I take her or negotiate the fee? Is it safe? With all the raids going on, would she possibly be an undercover cop? Would she be clean?

What tips can you guys give if I take her up and somehow don't feel comfortable when we do meet? Any SOP?

If this falls through, I will try out the many MPs and BBS's that you great guys have provided information on. However, I have one last question, it seems to me that DATY is done most times to the FLs and people from MP's and BBS's. So is it safe from STD to do that? Whats the point of a condom if one does DATY to the WG? I don't mind doing it. But as always, safety first.

Sorry if I asked too much. But I'm just a newbie. Thanks a lot.

I have a few other posts to post for Wenzhou when I explore there soon.

Vilberto
09-05-07, 15:21
Went to SH hotel Sauna last nite. Was disappointed that there are actually no real renovation there, just major maintenance work these last 3 weeks. Caught the wrong time to go there, they mentioned that they just had a group of 10+ monger there. So the gal selection is only 4.

Chose #51, told me she was from Chongqing and had previously worked in Guangdong (Changping most possibly). Service is a bit rushed which left us lots of time to chat. So to simplify the report, her service is not too good.

However, did get additional WG specific information from her that the average income from WGs in SH hotel sauna is at 20,000RMB per month, which I think is quite enormous. Also, that during the SH sauna major maintenance, some of the talent there had jumped ship to another sauna.

Vilberto
09-05-07, 15:47
Got an invitation from my a gal I was with once before in SH sauna to a new establishment every monger seemed to be quite familiar with and thus praised it respectfully but had now been forgotten, shamed, despised.

Behold! the Ji Yuan Sauna III.
Location: 418 WuZhong Lu, around 500m before 500Wuzhong Sauna.
The outer appearance of this sauna is BIG (unlike the discrete original JY) so there is no missing this place.
Was told that the place was open for just 15 HOT days.

Decoration is nice, much nicer than the JY1. We are now directed to an individual room and put our stuff there in a locker in our individual room rather than the usual sauna setup. So, this might put some of us who are alerted by previous report of cash theft at JY1, at ease.

The soapland room is just like JY1 but with greater sound isolation (I once heard another WG fake moaning/screaming in JY1), and also, they put a LCD in each room which shows a lame american porn.

Felt no need to talk about the service, since I was visiting a gal whom I liked so my report on the service can only be subjective. Thus, I decided to reserve the honour on the service reporting to other honorable member of ISG.

Session last for 90 mins, for 880RMB. Member card is 100RMB which gave you a 90RMB discount each session. NOTE that the card is not introduced by the staff, but was recommended by my gal. So, for those who want to get the card will have to tell the receptionist when paying.

Another nice thing is that they have a footie for 45mins for 100RMB. NOTE also that if you decided to get HJ as well, the price will go up to 380RMB for 1hr30mins. AND you cant get 2 footie cause it would cost you 380RMB. Was heavily persuaded into getting a HJ session after Ive done my footie. But, due to my accounting mindset that 380 is absolutely not worth it, I firmly reject her offer. The gal went away rather disappointed. Well, she would have to blame the management for setting such outrageous price for a HJ.

On my way back, I saw that along WuZhong Lu there are many many many BBSs along the road. Some with really tall and leggy gal. Anyone have any experience on BBSs there?

Bad Boy Billy
09-05-07, 23:09
OK guys time for some info.

Who has been to Attica and / or Bar Rouge lately?

What is the quality like right at moment?

Blacklisted
09-06-07, 10:46
Here's the questions I asked her: I mentioned that I won't negotiate on her RMB 2000 asking price; If she is a university student, doesnt she have to attend classes? ; send me natural pictures of herself and NOT studio (because 2 that she sent looks like different people). And thats it.

But after countering with her about her angry response, because I need to have some chemistry and know who is going to escort me, she sent me 3 pics.

So should I take her or negotiate the fee? Is it safe? With all the raids going on, would she possibly be an undercover cop? Would she be clean?

The chances of her being a student are slim. She would be a professional working girl and by the sounds of it, a pretty loose cannon type of one if she is getting pesky with you over the net. I would avoid, as you are gonna be guaranteed a bad time with that one. 2000 is pretty okay for an overnight (with a pretty hot girl), so her price is reasonable (but I don't know what she looks like). I would recommend you go to a KTV, or try an escort service where you can select a girl to your liking, rather than try to set it up out of country. Secondly, try a few sites for some dates and set up some freebies instead, so when you come you can try your luck and then go and get a hooker after if you don't succeed.



What tips can you guys give if I take her up and somehow don't feel comfortable when we do meet? Any SOP?


If you do meet and don't feel comfortable, just meet for a coffee, pay the bill and walk. Meet in a busy Starbucks and don't let her know anything about you such as where you are staying, etc. so you can make a clean getaway if need be.


If this falls through, I will try out the many MPs and BBS's that you great guys have provided information on. However, I have one last question, it seems to me that DATY is done most times to the FLs and people from MP's and BBS's. So is it safe from STD to do that? Whats the point of a condom if one does DATY to the WG? I don't mind doing it. But as always, safety first.


DATY is not that safe. You can get herpes, genital warts (on your mouth) gonnorrhea of the throat and several other nasties. AIDS is pretty unlikely, but the others are bad enough. I work on a case by case basis with this type of thing. If the girl seems young and sweet and relatively new on the game and I really really want to eat her pussy, I will, but 99.999999% of the time with working girls, I avoid.

Even if I do though, it will be pretty carefully. I won't suck and lick and bury my face in her arsehole like I would do with a girlfriend or freebie. If you get my meaning.

Good luck in Shanghai! No probs answering questions from a newbie who shows he has done some work!

Sauro07
09-06-07, 12:34
Hi Guys,

Against my better judgement, I tried a massage offered by an advert I saw on shanghai craigslist:

In her email, she also sent a nice body shot with white smooth skin, no face though. The person who turned up was close to 40 and had a tummy. Looked more like an Ayi!!

Should just stick to saunas - at least you know what you're paying for..!!I got the same answer from a girl that I saw on citiweekend.com.cn (or similar to that). Seems that is the same person. I feel sorry that you had a bad experience, but it was a good advice, I won't try her anymore!

Thanks for sharing,

Cheers,

Sauro07

Carnesseur
09-06-07, 16:06
Pick up some chicks at Babyface, Pegasus, or Starbucks.

..or spend a grip at City Sauna next to HK Plaza. 7F, look for signage outside. 900rmb HJ's with a nice view.

-MKDon't forget the Vegas KTV on Songshan Lu. And the Golden Bell Plaza KTV (not sure the exact name--Gold Glorious?). Both have been discussed in the forum. Do a search if interested in the details. I have personally had good experiences at latter, but it is expensive and you will want to go with a group.

Other good pickup locations include Guandi and Park 97 Bar located in Fuxing Park. I've been to these two places once before (discussed in the forum).

Tonight I'm heading to Xin Tian Di to prowl a bit. Xin Tian Di at night is literally crawling with hot women, but every time I've gone in the past, I've brought a girl with me (kicking myself). We'll see if I have any luck tonight.

By the way, I will be in town for the next week and a half. Anybody needing a wingman for some bar-hopping PM me.

WinteRain
09-06-07, 17:56
Has any seniors read about police raids and consequences of customers in mongering locations in Shanghai?

Reason I ask is because someone I know got caught in a raid in Beijing 3 days ago, and is now locked in jail. No visitors, no gifts, no nothing. My balls kinda shrunk a little after hearing about that.

Gualtier Malde
09-06-07, 19:21
Read here http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=518604&postcount=7129
or allow me to give me some clues
a) stroll in front of Hilton in search for street girls;
b) try bars in Julu Lu, which is almost in front of Hilton, for some take-away;
c) try big massage place in front of Hilton, in case you are up just for HJ;
d) move north to Tongren Lu bars strip, intersection with Yanan Lu, for take-away;
e) move farther north to Malone's for take away;
f) move farther north to the Pub, for a quick "on premises" release ;
g) move south to Zapata's and other venues in Hengshan Lu, for take-away;
h) move east to Xin Tian Di bars, for take-away;
i) take a girl from Equatorial Hotel karaoke, which is right around the corner on Yanan Lu (in case you are willing to spend);
j) try very famous "red rope" experiences at Shanghai Hotel sauna, just around the corner on 505 Wulumuqi Lu.

The Equatorial Hotel Karaoke place was closed down over a year ago. Additionally, the Blue Moon on the 4th floor of the Equatorial kicked out their "professionals". The Equatorial is now a totally "clean" hotel, with no "extra" services offered from any of their venues. However, they are girl friendly and party friendly (at least last time I was there, 3 months ago).

I do NOT recommend the HJ place in front of the Hilton. This place should be avoided. For the same amount you'll spend there, you'll get GREAT service at the Shanghai Hotel, right around the block.

GM

Carnesseur
09-07-07, 00:34
Okay. Went to Xin Tian Di a few hours after arriving in SH. It was around midnight and things seemed pretty tame. Numerous touts tried to steer me to their ladies. I declined and walked a bit and checked out all the hangouts: Starbucks, Coffee Bean, Luna, Rendezvous. The last two had bands and small but decent-looking crowds. Rendezvous had the most women, so I got a beer there.

Right after getting my drink, a chubby large-breasted girl named LiLi (possibly Lily) started talking me up. I happened to be on my way to get a better look at some other girls, but this one wouldn't let me leave. Her English was very good and her tits were humongous. She was a 6 to 7 in looks. Not repulsive, but if she hadn't grabbed me, I wouldn't have noticed her.

So I asked her to sit outside and talk for a minute. I had no intention of leaving the bar with her. She said she worked in a clothing store and had just stopped at the bar with a friend for a drink. Presented herself as innocent, non working girl. After talking for a few minutes, my eyes started focusing on her mammaries in the better light and that was ballgame fellas. I knew I had to see those breasts. A surprise to me was that this non-WG started talking price. We negotiated. She said, "Two hundred US dollars." I said, "Fifty." She said, "$100." I replied, "Does that include as many pops as I want?" "Yes," she says.

Long story short, I brought her back to my room and had my way with her. But it was not exactly what I expected. The tits were so big because they were fake (but real looking when clothed). Huge turn off for me. I was expecting the tits to keep me interested while I tried to forget the extra padding. But the extra padding was not bad at all. She was firm everywhere, just a little thick. Kind of a nice change from the typical skinny chinese girls. The real killer for me was that her pussy smelled bad. So DATY was definitely out, and, worse, it sacked my whole mood. I just had her give me a BBBJ and finished with her on top (me covered for sure). I must say that she had a great attitude. But I just couldn't get stop thinking about the microbiology behind that smell.

Lessons I learned (senior members please correct if wrong):

1. Tits: if they look too good to be true...etc, etc. This goes for the magic bra syndrome too.

2. Don't believe any of the BS these girls tell you to make you think they are clean and don't fuck around. This girl was a pro. Probably a washed up KTV girl (at 26) who had gained too much weight, now working nightly as a bar girl. Likely had a benefactor who paid for the chest work years ago. So keep a stash of condoms.

3. If she speaks good English and doesn't have a college degree or work for a multinational, she are probably a working girl. Nice to be able to communicate. Just remember that most of what she will tell you is BS.

4. You can spot the normal, non-WGs by the way they don't really pay much attention to you. There were a few hotties like that strolling in Xin Tian Di last night. But I figured they would be too much work for me on a night like this.

5. Any decent-looking guy can go to Xin Tian Di and pick up an attractive WG. Watch out for the ladyboys, though. I spotted at least ten in the hour that I was there.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

World Guy Sh
09-07-07, 01:06
daty is not that safebl,

you're right and we should all remember that i guess. neither is bbbj - she may have one of said conditions in/on her mouth and pass it on. partly why i have taken to not going to bbs except for hj these days. sauna's have a good peer but that won't answer all questions. but i do love daty. damn!

this site may help - from the uk's national health service. pretty comprehensive and not seen posted here before. gives an independent medical view on what, how, symptoms and treatment.

http://www.nhsdirect.nhs.uk/articles/article.aspx?articleid=436

you can all flame me personally now as i have finally got around to up grading my membership. perhaps a midweek social sometime?

wgs

Gualtier Malde
09-07-07, 05:32
Okay. Went to Xin Tian Di a few hours after arriving in SH. It was around midnight and things seemed pretty tame. Numerous touts tried to steer me to their ladies. I declined and walked a bit and checked out all the hangouts: Starbucks, Coffee Bean, Luna, Rendezvous. The last two had bands and small but decent-looking crowds. Rendezvous had the most women, so I got a beer there.

Right after getting my drink, a chubby large-breasted girl named LiLi (possibly Lily) started talking me up. I happened to be on my way to get a better look at some other girls, but this one wouldn't let me leave. Her English was very good and her tits were humongous. She was a 6 to 7 in looks. Not repulsive, but if she hadn't grabbed me, I wouldn't have noticed her.

So I asked her to sit outside and talk for a minute. I had no intention of leaving the bar with her. She said she worked in a clothing store and had just stopped at the bar with a friend for a drink. Presented herself as innocent, non working girl. After talking for a few minutes, my eyes started focusing on her mammaries in the better light and that was ballgame fellas. I knew I had to see those breasts. A surprise to me was that this non-WG started talking price. We negotiated. She said, "Two hundred US dollars." I said, "Fifty." She said, "$100." I replied, "Does that include as many pops as I want?" "Yes," she says.

Long story short, I brought her back to my room and had my way with her. But it was not exactly what I expected. The tits were so big because they were fake (but real looking when clothed). Huge turn off for me. I was expecting the tits to keep me interested while I tried to forget the extra padding. But the extra padding was not bad at all. She was firm everywhere, just a little thick. Kind of a nice change from the typical skinny chinese girls. The real killer for me was that her pussy smelled bad. So DATY was definitely out, and, worse, it sacked my whole mood. I just had her give me a BBBJ and finished with her on top (me covered for sure). I must say that she had a great attitude. But I just couldn't get stop thinking about the microbiology behind that smell.

Lessons I learned (senior members please correct if wrong):

1. Tits: if they look too good to be true...etc, etc. This goes for the magic bra syndrome too.

2. Don't believe any of the BS these girls tell you to make you think they are clean and don't fuck around. This girl was a pro. Probably a washed up KTV girl (at 26) who had gained too much weight, now working nightly as a bar girl. Likely had a benefactor who paid for the chest work years ago. So keep a stash of condoms.

3. If she speaks good English and doesn't have a college degree or work for a multinational, she are probably a working girl. Nice to be able to communicate. Just remember that most of what she will tell you is BS.

4. You can spot the normal, non-WGs by the way they don't really pay much attention to you. There were a few hotties like that strolling in Xin Tian Di last night. But I figured they would be too much work for me on a night like this.

5. Any decent-looking guy can go to Xin Tian Di and pick up an attractive WG. Watch out for the ladyboys, though. I spotted at least ten in the hour that I was there.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Some comments and suggestions:

1. Never negotiate in USD. Always talk RMB. Any girl that starts talking USD is both a pro AND thinks she can rip you off.

2. That $100 should have gotten you a full night, but of course, with that smelly snatch you might have decided to kick her out early.

3. The ones that are aggressive in a talent-rich environment are aggressive for a reason... think about it... your best move is to avoid those, unless you are truly desparate.

4. If you want to pick up a non-Pro at Xin Tian Di, consider heading to the ice cream place and buying a young cutie a cone, then chatting her up. A true non-pro is more likely to be at the ice cream parlor than at, say, Luna...

5. I disagree with your #3. One of my favorite non-pro girlfriends there spoke great english, was a total knockout, loved to stroll Xin Tian Di (still does), and had not yet finished college. (She has now though.) She never asked for anything but my heart (gladly given, at least temporarily... :-) ).

GM

Getting It On
09-07-07, 06:57
The chances of her being a student are slim. She would be a professional working girl and by the sounds of it, a pretty loose cannon type of one if she is getting pesky with you over the net. I would avoid, as you are gonna be guaranteed a bad time with that one. 2000 is pretty okay for an overnight (with a pretty hot girl), so her price is reasonable (but I don't know what she looks like). I would recommend you go to a KTV, or try an escort service where you can select a girl to your liking, rather than try to set it up out of country. Secondly, try a few sites for some dates and set up some freebies instead, so when you come you can try your luck and then go and get a hooker after if you don't succeed.Thank you Blacklisted for your kind advice. Just yesterday, the girl escort says her price is RMB1000 for 3 hours of sex and RMB100/hour for her company/translating service. And she has a curfew and have to be back home at 12am. She has also in the last 2 emails persuading me to 'understand' her situation - she is just a student and new to this, she just wants extra pocket money. And the money (each RMB100) does not matter to me but to her it does. So she asks me please dont negotiate the price. I will keep exchanging emails to her and see how it goes.

Well, with all the Shanghai information available on the forum, finding a place of release and comfort will not be difficult.

Thank you once again for all the information posted here! keep up the good work.

Mock A Bee
09-07-07, 10:26
Some comments and suggestions:

1. Never negotiate in USD. Always talk RMB. Any girl that starts talking USD is both a pro AND thinks she can rip you off.

2. That $100 should have gotten you a full night, but of course, with that smelly snatch you might have decided to kick her out early.

3. The ones that are aggressive in a talent-rich environment are aggressive for a reason... think about it... your best move is to avoid those, unless you are truly desparate.

4. If you want to pick up a non-Pro at Xin Tian Di, consider heading to the ice cream place and buying a young cutie a cone, then chatting her up. A true non-pro is more likely to be at the ice cream parlor than at, say, Luna...

5. I disagree with your #3. One of my favorite non-pro girlfriends there spoke great english, was a total knockout, loved to stroll Xin Tian Di (still does), and had not yet finished college. (She has now though.) She never asked for anything but my heart (gladly given, at least temporarily... :-) ).

GM

I agree with GM, a girl with a smelly snatch should be given the boot! WTF? You can expect a smelly snatch from a BBS girl, but a full price WG? I don't think so!

Never ever negotiate in USD. That right there should be a really bad sign you are going to get ripped off! MAN you guys!

Why are so many people so willing to pay so much money for a girl in Shanghai? Because it is Shanghai? Uhh... I don't think so. Most of these girls want to sell themselves much more than you think. There is always another girl in Shanghai - I will guarantee it.

Look around, there is so much P****Y there is an oversupply. Don't normal economics apply? Don't you guys know there is a ton of it for sale, and for 800rmb, you should be picky. She should be pretty hot, GFE and with a clean snatch, LT with multiple pops. 800rmb is a ton of money for these girls.

I agree with GM, most of these girls who are aggressive need to be, because there is so much competition! For 800rmb, unless she is really hot, move on, and look for another one. She is NOT the only piece of sushi out there, and by the way, snatch should smell like sushi, not canned tuna fish!

Xin Tian Di is a hardcore place to get ripped off. The WG's troll for dumb foreigners who don't know the game and treat you as prey.

I can't believe you guys!

BTW, if you have a regular from a sauna, they will sometimes visit you as a freebie for a BFE. For many, work is work, and they need a little love and a break too just like anyone else.

MAB

Schulli
09-07-07, 10:29
Hi seniors,

I don't want to bother you with too much newbee stuff, but I went to Shanghai Hotel today, that one 100 meter beside the Hilton, ISG reports in mind, just walk in, straight to the elevator, 2cd floor, Sauna.

At the 2cd floor was a Chinese restaurant, defenitely no Sauna, at 4th floor is a I think Moon Blue Club, a beauty saloon with massage AND an spa and health club with massage. I was to doubtful just to walk in the spa club at 4th floor saying " Hi, I am here for a massage".

So, is there another elevator to reach a second floor.

Thanks

Softy
09-07-07, 14:48
The Equatorial Hotel Karaoke place was closed down over a year ago. Additionally, the Blue Moon on the 4th floor of the Equatorial kicked out their "professionals". The Equatorial is now a totally "clean" hotel, with no "extra" services offered from any of their venues. However, they are girl friendly and party friendly (at least last time I was there, 3 months ago).

GM


I stayed at the Equatorial a week ago, and they are most definitely still GF.

Guybert56
09-07-07, 14:51
I have not read any reports on the forum about the Baoan Hotel Sauna so I thought I would take a look see. The location is adjacent to the Purple Mountain Hotel between Zhang Yang Lu and Weifeng Xi lu in Pudong. Very near the Intercontinental. I had strolled in to the 5th floor lobby area before but found it to be shut until after noon.

The facility is probably one of the finest around with first class decoration and very spotless service areas. The showers rivaled any 5 star hotel. The staff we polite and distant but helpful when needed. Didn’t hover. The actual massage rooms were beautiful but the doors did not lock nor did the windows have coverings. First clue.

I did the requisite shower and had nice PJ’s in my size (xl) handed to me and was allowed to dry myself and put on my own clothes. My preference. I was lead down a 200 meter set of corridors to the room where a very pretty (8+) 27 year old Nanjing girl was waiting in a sexy red and black nightie dress. She took my PJ top and lead me to the massage table, a very comfortable and clean one with a set of bars overhead. #929 proceeded to give me the finest dry massage I have ever had! The back walk was fantastic! She finally tugged off my bottoms and I heard her rustle around in her bag and then the beautiful sound of her dress hitting the floor! There she was in a cut bra and panties but did not offer to remove them. Very nice trim and petite body! She proceeded to oil up my backside and my tool while I was on my stomach. Then she had me roll over for a very very good baby oil HJ. She let me handle her pert nipples but nothing south of the border. No offer of anything better or up charges or tips mentioned. Very good eye contact and a beautiful smile throughout. Cleaned up and then a nice long hug. First class service at luxury prices!

Damages! 864 for about 80 minutes. I did not ask upfront and did not try to negotiate after but thought the work was ‘tai kwa le! ’. Next time for less, I could have a really good time at the first spa on Lao Shan Lu south of Weifeng Xi Lu where my favorite babe will allow prolonged DATY and an even better GFE for 2 hours!

Anyone else have any FS ideas for Baoan?

Gualtier Malde
09-08-07, 00:09
Hi seniors,

I don't want to bother you with too much newbee stuff, but I went to Shanghai Hotel today, that one 100 meter beside the Hilton, ISG reports in mind, just walk in, straight to the elevator, 2cd floor, Sauna.

At the 2cd floor was a Chinese restaurant, defenitely no Sauna, at 4th floor is a I think Moon Blue Club, a beauty saloon with massage AND an spa and health club with massage. I was to doubtful just to walk in the spa club at 4th floor saying " Hi, I am here for a massage".

So, is there another elevator to reach a second floor.

Thanks

Oh man, I'm rolling on the floor laughing my ass off! You went into the wrong hotel! The Shanghai Hotel Sauna is in the (wait for it) SHANGHAI HOTEL! You went into the Equatorial Hotel! :-)

The Shanghai Hotel is further around the block. You went 90 degrees around to get to the Equatorial. Keep on going, another 90 degrees. The street you'll be on is Urumuqi. The name of the hotel is clearly stated as "Shanghai Hotel".

Good luck! Sure hope you didn't buy one of those sexless, overpriced Equatorial massages!

GM

Gualtier Malde
09-08-07, 00:16
Thank you Blacklisted for your kind advice. Just yesterday, the girl escort says her price is RMB1000 for 3 hours of sex and RMB100/hour for her company/translating service. And she has a curfew and have to be back home at 12am. She has also in the last 2 emails persuading me to 'understand' her situation - she is just a student and new to this, she just wants extra pocket money. And the money (each RMB100) does not matter to me but to her it does. So she asks me please dont negotiate the price. I will keep exchanging emails to her and see how it goes.

Well, with all the Shanghai information available on the forum, finding a place of release and comfort will not be difficult.

Thank you once again for all the information posted here! keep up the good work.

Just to put things into context: I hired a college student to do technical work in my company. Her job required substantially more training and skill than translation. I paid her RMB100 *PER DAY*. And she was happy to have the (part time) job.

So just keep in mind that paying a college student more than that for translation services, and not receiving substantial "comfort" services, is a ripoff of significant proportions.

[edit] Oh, and one more thing: RMB1000 for 3 hours, with a 12am curfew, is certainly a rip. If it is companionship you are after, just pick one up at a bar or off the street. You'll get away much cheaper. You should be able to get to RMB800 for all night, RMB200-500 for a couple of hours. 200 if you get her from the street, upwards to 500 if you get her from a higher-end bar. Basically the price varies with the venue from which you get the girl, and whether she is independent or not, rather than her looks.

If you need a translator, don't go to an escort service. If you need sex, don't go to one either... in my opinion, in every way, "escort service" = "ripoff", especially if you take the time to read this forum.

GM

World Guy Sh
09-08-07, 06:38
I have a couple of females who work for me at the Multinational Company I work for. One about 30, the other about 28. Both speak fluent English, business degrees. We pay at the upper end of the pay scale and they get around 20k and 17k per month plus those wonderful Chinese living expenses for a upper junior/lower mid level management. So that is a little over 1000 RMB per day. So when you hand over you 1000RMB just equate that back to a similar role in your own country. About US$300 or so. You are paying top whack for that girl.

Average Shanghai income is about 6-7, 000RMB per month. Big debate on the Beijing board about stickng to the prices and recent inflation. I've walked before and will continue to do so if I get quoted stupid prices. BBS wanted 500RMB just for a hand job. As GM said, there is plenty more out there.

Jazz Fish
09-08-07, 10:44
Rodion reported before,

Xuanhua 宣化 Lu near Jiangsu Lu, to the right of a Jiadeli supermarket If you are facing the supermarket

Glass frontage is opaque except for a clear strip in the middle where you can see the gals of cos just walk in and see all 8-10 of them in their 5-7 glory.

130RMB . I believe that's all they do. Reclined sofa, partitioned curtains, almost pitch dark where they do it.

Anyone knows more of these specialised BJ factories especially nearer to /sheraton Taipingyang area or otherwise?

Jazz Fish
09-08-07, 10:53
Rodion reported before,

Xuanhua 宣化 Lu near Jiangsu Lu, to the right of a Jiadeli supermarket If you are facing the supermarket

Glass frontage is opaque except for a clear strip in the middle where you can see the gals of cos just walk in and see all 8-10 of them in their 5-7 glory.

130RMB . I believe that's all they do. Reclined sofa, partitioned curtains, almost pitch dark where they do it.

Anyone knows more of these specialised BJ factories especially nearer to /sheraton Taipingyang area or otherwise?

BJ Boy
09-08-07, 12:08
Pick up some chicks at Babyface, Pegasus, or Starbucks.
-MK
Pegasus has been closed for around a year now. Starbucks is still open though :-)

Brooklyn Cyclone
09-08-07, 15:14
Pick up some chicks at Babyface, Pegasus, or Starbucks.

..or spend a grip at City Sauna next to HK Plaza. 7F, look for signage outside. 900rmb HJ's with a nice view.

-MKI have walked passed few Japanese clubs near SongShan Road off HuaiHai Road. Has anyone tried those?

What about Ito Massage in Gold Bell Plaza? Is it a legit massage place or offers extra services?

OldAsiaHand
09-09-07, 04:48
As a benchmark, the translators that work at the Canton Fair in GZ get 200RMB per day maximum and that is on the high side since prices for everything during the trade fair are jacked up.

Just my POV.

OAH

Carnesseur
09-09-07, 05:06
Just to clarify. The approx. 800 RMB was supposed to be for all night, multiple pops. I cut it short because of the smell. So I did give her the boot. What is your WTF comment about? Was I supposed to sample her snatch at Xin Tian Di?

$100 (aka ~800RMB) is not getting ripped off for LT. So what's up with the "MAN you guys" shit MAB? Why do you say I am "so willing to pay so much." From reading the fucking forum, it would seem that this is pretty much normal price for all night, LT, whatever. The fact that I cut it short for my reasons doesn't mean I should go back on my agreement with the girl.

Agreed that I should have been pickier, but hindsight is 20/20. Not everyone can be the playa that you obviously are. I think I could have picked up a better looking girl, but I wanted to see those titties. Your taste and my taste differs. Get over it.

Now the point of my whole post was to show that a normal looking guy can get off a plane, head over to Xin Tian Di, have some dinner, and take a girl home. I also told details of my story to make others aware of my mistakes/experiences. When someone tries to add to the forum, you don't have to be a dickhead, smarter-than-thou, blowhard. If you want people to contribute to the thread, you might want to think about this.


I agree with GM, a girl with a smelly snatch should be given the boot! WTF? You can expect a smelly snatch from a BBS girl, but a full price WG? I don't think so!

Never ever negotiate in USD. That right there should be a really bad sign you are going to get ripped off! MAN you guys!

Why are so many people so willing to pay so much money for a girl in Shanghai? Because it is Shanghai? Uhh... I don't think so. Most of these girls want to sell themselves much more than you think. There is always another girl in Shanghai - I will guarantee it.

Look around, there is so much P****Y there is an oversupply. Don't normal economics apply? Don't you guys know there is a ton of it for sale, and for 800rmb, you should be picky. She should be pretty hot, GFE and with a clean snatch, LT with multiple pops. 800rmb is a ton of money for these girls.

I agree with GM, most of these girls who are aggressive need to be, because there is so much competition! For 800rmb, unless she is really hot, move on, and look for another one. She is NOT the only piece of sushi out there, and by the way, snatch should smell like sushi, not canned tuna fish!

Xin Tian Di is a hardcore place to get ripped off. The WG's troll for dumb foreigners who don't know the game and treat you as prey.

I can't believe you guys!

BTW, if you have a regular from a sauna, they will sometimes visit you as a freebie for a BFE. For many, work is work, and they need a little love and a break too just like anyone else.

MAB

Carnesseur
09-09-07, 05:11
Thanks for the corrections. I think it's good advice.


Some comments and suggestions:

1. Never negotiate in USD. Always talk RMB. Any girl that starts talking USD is both a pro AND thinks she can rip you off.

2. That $100 should have gotten you a full night, but of course, with that smelly snatch you might have decided to kick her out early.

3. The ones that are aggressive in a talent-rich environment are aggressive for a reason... think about it... your best move is to avoid those, unless you are truly desparate.

4. If you want to pick up a non-Pro at Xin Tian Di, consider heading to the ice cream place and buying a young cutie a cone, then chatting her up. A true non-pro is more likely to be at the ice cream parlor than at, say, Luna...

5. I disagree with your #3. One of my favorite non-pro girlfriends there spoke great english, was a total knockout, loved to stroll Xin Tian Di (still does), and had not yet finished college. (She has now though.) She never asked for anything but my heart (gladly given, at least temporarily... :-) ).

GM

Albert Punter
09-09-07, 19:36
Well I should tell some girls I know to apply for a job in your company.
Many office girls I met, graduated, who speak good to perfect English (and possibly a second language) only get RMB 4.000 to RMB 6.000 per month.


I have a couple of females who work for me at the Multinational Company I work for. One about 30, the other about 28. Both speak fluent English, business degrees. We pay at the upper end of the pay scale and they get around 20k and 17k per month plus those wonderful Chinese living expenses for a upper junior/lower mid level management. So that is a little over 1000 RMB per day. So when you hand over you 1000RMB just equate that back to a similar role in your own country. About US$300 or so. You are paying top whack for that girl.

Average Shanghai income is about 6-7, 000RMB per month. Big debate on the Beijing board about stickng to the prices and recent inflation. I've walked before and will continue to do so if I get quoted stupid prices. BBS wanted 500RMB just for a hand job. As GM said, there is plenty more out there.

Santa
09-09-07, 22:12
When someone tries to add to the forum, you don't have to be a dickhead, smarter-than-thou, blowhard. .

Carnesseur. You are over doing it and there is no need for name calling.

I think it is often better to negotiate for ST and say you will consider LT if the service is good.

World Guy Sh
09-10-07, 00:26
Just reread my last post. Perhaps cam across as a bit arrogat sounding which was not the intention. More just to show that as AP states so much better, highly qualified girls can earn a pittence here. I think that says it really.

Sorry if I sounded a twat.

WGS

Carnesseur
09-10-07, 05:20
Agreed. Negotiating for ST is the way to go. LT only if things work out. I've made the same mistake before. Thanks.

And sorry about the name calling.


Carnesseur. You are over doing it and there is no need for name calling.

I think it is often better to negotiate for ST and say you will consider LT if the service is good.

Mock A Bee
09-10-07, 05:59
Just to clarify. The approx. 800 RMB was supposed to be for all night, multiple pops. I cut it short because of the smell. So I did give her the boot. What is your WTF comment about? Was I supposed to sample her snatch at Xin Tian Di?

$100 (aka ~800RMB) is not getting ripped off for LT. So what's up with the "MAN you guys" shit MAB? Why do you say I am "so willing to pay so much." From reading the fucking forum, it would seem that this is pretty much normal price for all night, LT, whatever. The fact that I cut it short for my reasons doesn't mean I should go back on my agreement with the girl.

Agreed that I should have been pickier, but hindsight is 20/20. Not everyone can be the playa that you obviously are. I think I could have picked up a better looking girl, but I wanted to see those titties. Your taste and my taste differs. Get over it.

Now the point of my whole post was to show that a normal looking guy can get off a plane, head over to Xin Tian Di, have some dinner, and take a girl home. I also told details of my story to make others aware of my mistakes/experiences. When someone tries to add to the forum, you don't have to be a dickhead, smarter-than-thou, blowhard. If you want people to contribute to the thread, you might want to think about this.

So what, are you calling me a dickhead now?
Hey, I didn't make any comments about your taste, I could care less what kind of girls you like.

Ok look, Xin Tian Di is usually a losers game unless you are good at negotiating and know how to handle "Shanghai B*****S. XTD is full of skanky ho's, and many of them will steal from you. WG's in XTD love to prey on foreigners, and often will give the cold shoulder to Local Chinese.

Not recommended for the faint of heart, these girls (some are office girls making extra money) usually have a lot of experience negotiating a good deal for themselves and take pride in short changing you. You can even overhear them talking out loud to their girlfriends about how they screwed their ex-husbands out most of their money.

There is a saying about Shanghai people... "The city where the women are women and so are the men".

Btw, you just kick the girl out if she has a smelly snatch.

MAB

Albert Punter
09-10-07, 08:11
... just basing on my experience salaries seemed a little high for office girls in simple secretary or accountant position.

Never mind, salary level is a jungle here.
Just consider case of compensation paid to employees you fire: by law (or maybe just use) is a month salary per year of work in the company plus an extra of 2 month salary. However there are companies paying up to 10 or 15 extra month salary. Isn't that crazy ?
Exactly like mongering market ...


Just reread my last post. Perhaps cam across as a bit arrogat sounding which was not the intention. More just to show that as AP states so much better, highly qualified girls can earn a pittence here. I think that says it really.

Sorry if I sounded a twat.

WGS

BlackCummer
09-10-07, 10:47
Hi fellows,

This is my first post. I came accross this website after looking for info about massage-shanghai.net (still not sure if it is good or not)

-I usually go for the BBS but I've never found those girls nice, few exceptions. Is it because I'm a big black dude? I hope not, I don't even want to argue on that. Ok this is a few spot where I had some good time (not new for most of you I think) 1- xiamuqiao lu near xietu lu.

Quite fun, some of those ladies are really into giving the great deal, choose the one who wants you or the one embarrassed. I've ended up in a impossible FS as the ladie was beilive it or not way too tight. She then provided one of my best BJ.

Walk around a lot of BBS in that area.

2- xiazhou lu near ya ann lu

Oh my god, I was pretty lame to go there but they've provided FS and a pretty good one twice.

3- 30min from shanghai Kunshan.

A paradise. Better go with some friends, more fun.

BJ bar, KTV, BBS, a lot of freebies, just like in heaven. :.)

As I rarely feel confy in BBS I'm more into the outcall service.

I'm looking to try for the first time. I've found a couple of number on craigslist and 2 get my attention: a Girl nammed Channel and massage-shanghai.

Is there anyone who had an experience with Channel before? She sent me a pic were she look nice but nver know. FS is RMB700 I guess its ok.

Massage-sh is RMB800.

I'm also looking for a girl who is willing to do backdoor.

I've picked up 2 girls from julu lu as the one I've picked up didn't want to come alone. Disaster. Definitely not the Chinese beauty and the one who came for helping was a pain in the butt.

I'm looking for a nice experience at home. Any recommandation?

Also Something scare the hell out of me: seems like a french dude fall into a trap a month ago or so. The guy picked a girl, went to the hotel and the cop were waiting for him in the room or something. Scary.

I don't want to look like a foul but is there any outcall that could be Five-O?

Ok, thanks a lot for the replies guys.

Good to be part of this forum.

Sounds like fun.

Cheers

JayCar2014
09-10-07, 11:19
this report will most likely attract the flames of many of the more established and proficient of our readership but here are my thoughts. while it is a definite advantage to speak even a few words of chinese, the fact that you can’t shouldn’t deter you from having a go.

if you rtff then you will appreciate the range and availability of pay p4p in shanghai and other cities across this nation. but if you are like me, who has only been pursuing these activities in recent years after a marriage breakdown then this activity takes a while to feel relaxing and enjoyable especially in such a foreign country.

firstly i would like to state my eternal gratitude to the senior members and other ground breakers whose reports are like manna from heaven. these experiences and their reporting allow others to follow in their footsteps (as you might say). while operating within the very workable and necessary rules set out by the admin, even i can find many of the location talked about in these pages with a little effort. a few times i have not been able to follow directions or find the location but this being my third trip to china i am getting better. i have read comments by other members stating that newbies should get off their backsides and find new locations and girls for themselves, but i just don’t have the language skills or the local knowledge to be able to do this with any degree of confidence.

to this end i have followed these guidelines and for those newbies who like me speak no other words beside “hello” and “thank you” in chinese here is some information about how you go about exploring the better known locations in shanghai.

in the following report there will be a local phone number. in most hotels there will be an english speaking person working behind the front desk, even in two & three star hotels. just go down to them with the phone number and ask them to call it and then write down the address in chinese. if my address is in english they will also be able to translate that as well. make sure you have your hotels business card with its address and directions on it (sometimes taxi drivers need the small map on the back for information). go outside and call a taxi or ask the doorman to do it then check that the driver of the taxi knows where you’re going. a simple nod of the head and “ok” while pointing to the address will be enough.

when you get to the establishment walk straight in, as reported by other readers these places know why you’re there. most of the time they either say special or sexy massage or if you are shown a list of services like a menu and one is 600 or 800 yuan compared to say 100 yuan then that is it!

i have seen all manner of methods of choosing the beautiful object of your designs. a fish bowl as is common in soapies in thailand where the girls line up in a room with numbers attached to their outfits. sometimes they can see you, others they can’t. (one occasion in shanghai, this was apparent due to the surprised look on the beauty’s face when she saw who had picked her). another type still in same vain is the line up where they stand directly in front of you. this is ok, but i always feel self conscious when this method is used and probably make my decision to hastily. i have also been presented with a single girl for approval and to date haven’t had to refuse or replace the girl.

my first experience with the yu ping was me dipping my toe into the mongering wonderland of shanghai. nervous as hell, my first visit to this city was a whirlwind one and i thought this was a safe bet. walked into the hotel part (on the right facing the hotel from the street) and didn’t know where i was but wandered around until i discovered the corridor to the right that led to the massage area. was briefly asked “massage?” and led away. other reports here will give the details such as locker room boys, showering with other naked males, the bloke who gives you a scrub down. try the mechanical bed augmentation for the experience as well and the infamous red rope. all services such as bj, catbath, fire & ice and ar should be available but not always. tel. 6233-3448.

209 ulumuqi lu tel. 6248-0968 is a sauna like a soapy in thailand. up the steps and around to the right and one of the three doormen will press the elevator button for you that will take you directly to the fifth floor. “massage?” and away you go through a maze of corridors and into a private room to change into what i always find too small pyjamas. then onto a viewing room where the boss gets the girls to come out for an inspection. i think in this location it is a one way mirror because of the reaction of my chosen beauty when she found out a foreigner had picked her, but i could be wrong. i loved this location, both visits have been unrushed, fun and every bit of both bodies was explored. up market furnishings, good equipment and pretty girls in the range of 7-9 (even though this is very subjective) makes this a favourite of mine.

the shanghai hotel (near the hilton) is a long established location but what is not always established is its location within the hotel. i walked around the block outside for a good 20 minutes and even looked into a legitimate therapeutic massage place out the back first. i apparently wasn’t the only one to make this mistake as when i walked into the legitimate place’s foyer, three very out of place westerners were sitting with their feet in buckets. they had strange looks on their faces; i think expecting p4p and getting a therapeutic foot rub.

i gather from rtff that the addition of the vip rooms downstairs is new so i tried this out and found it quite enjoyable but i only had two girls to pick from and had to do so face to face, a practice with which i feel a like uncomfortable with. they were both 6-8 but a bit older and possibly a bit more “experienced”, but my choice of the day’s service was a bit less enthusiastic unlike 209 ulumuqi lu where my pick seemed to get into it. tel. 6248-0088

the next location is way over in pudong and i think it’s call da bong sauna and it’s located in the same building as the marriott courtyard hotel. once you get inside the hotel find the escalators and keep going up and up and keep looking, going up to the fourth floor. there will a sauna there, a bit jaded and worn but this location will always remain in my treasured memory as this is only the second time i have experienced greek. it was part of the service offered by the young beauty and she seemed quite at relaxed about it. that is to say, her attitude was relaxed as it was bit of an effort but she seemed to enjoy it as well. i can’t say if this is a general rule but number 89 or 83 ( i can’t remember) was accommodating, she was also quite proud of her ample chest at least a “c” cup if not close to “d” and on a shorter, stockier body type just as like them. tel. 6886-7886

the last place i would like to mention is, i think, the stomping ground of some of the more senior members. called “the pub” it’s this little dingy place stuck on street level with nothing to make it obvious that anything would occur there. with the help of a very diligent taxi driver and an address written down by my concierge, i found it late in the afternoon about 4.30 pm. being on a reconnoitring expedition and not expecting it to be open, i pushed on the door only to find it swing open. then i find another door with doorbell to the side. “what the hell, give it a go” the door is opened by this woman who, while a bit older is still attractive and she invites me in. straight down to business “you want make love”. i ask the obligatory question “500 rmb”. not feeling like the effort due to being hot and sweaty already, i enquire as to the availability of a bj, “300”. i countered with 200 as with most things in this country the cost is negotiable. after the briefest of negotiations 250 is settled on. she motions for me to drop my daks there and then, and proceeds with a bbbjcim with the obligatory split into the ash tray. (coming (opps, sorry for the pun) from a so called first world country and in these days of hiv and aids this is a rare experience.) then pull up the daks and out onto the street. “thank you very much”. no thank you! i don’t have the telephone number but if you write down the address and take it to the concierge they will translate this in to chinese. (address 1771 xin zha lu).

this is the end of my third trip to china and no doubt i will return. while i hope the more travelled of our brethren will, i hope, forgive me for giving what i think is essential information away, all i have done is as suggested many times and rtfff and then used the information provided.

i am a paid-up subscriber and would suggest to others that it is worthwhile. i will be happy to talk to others so please don’t hesitate to contact me through this priceless forum.

n3801

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

John Euro
09-10-07, 11:25
Hi Brothers

I have been often in China but never been to Shanghai, I have to be there next week, this for 4 day’s only and within this trip there is no much freedom for me to practice my lifetime hobby since my female " Big Brother " is travelling with me this time for sightseeing and going to Xian.

I stay at the Royal Meridien Shanghai on Nanjing Dong Road, they have a 5 star Spa and wondered if there are extras available like HJ or BJ (or FS? ) or is this just only 100% Legal?

I have received HJ & BJ in China 5 start hotels wo problem but not sure in this one. , I will try it at least one evening to see what is possible and if someone can confirm something positive in advance, plse let me know. (I did not find anything positive when RTTF on Le Meridien)

When looking on SH a city map, it’s a bit to far to the famous shanghai Hotel Spa or the Hilton area and taking a taxi ride on my own is out of the question this time. The business diner will be for sure NOT ending up in a KTV this time as my wife is already invited, no luck on this one either but I will have other evenings to escape for a few hours

The second question is, can some of our " local experienced mongers " provide me with information on a good Chinese type spa or sauna with extras and this within walking distance from the Le Meridien, I never go in to the advice or offers from street pims or unknown rip- off places.

I visit in Asia often the typical "men only" bathhouses or spa’s, she knows that and that’s no problem, in this case I can tell here that the hotel concierge as given me the address from a famous one just across the street and go there and she will buy it.

Answer will be highly appreciated

Thanks, will report the result later on.

John Euro

Ringer5
09-10-07, 11:36
Good to know of more Pudong options, although the price seems very high - but sometimes the service you describe is exactly what's required.

Also interesting that you've had good experience in the Laoshan Lu / Weifang Lu area - mine has been the opposite, and I think the spa you describe was the worst of the three I've tried. After agreeing the basic rate for 1 hour oil massage I was not surprised to be asked for 500 additional for a "mid-section" massage - highly unimpressed to be told five minutes later that actually only covered legs and stomach, and if I wanted anything more "personal" that would be another 300! We were still debating that, with my interest fading rapidly, when she mentioned that my hour was up and further outlay would be required to make use of the previous investments. That was too much like good money after bad, so I got dressed and wandered out into the Sunday evening older and (theoretically) a little wiser.


I have not read any reports on the forum about the Baoan Hotel Sauna so I thought I would take a look see. The location is adjacent to the Purple Mountain Hotel between Zhang Yang Lu and Weifeng Xi lu in Pudong. Very near the Intercontinental. I had strolled in to the 5th floor lobby area before but found it to be shut until after noon.

First class service at luxury prices!

Damages! 864 for about 80 minutes. I did not ask upfront and did not try to negotiate after but thought the work was ‘tai kwa le! ’. Next time for less, I could have a really good time at the first spa on Lao Shan Lu south of Weifeng Xi Lu where my favorite babe will allow prolonged DATY and an even better GFE for 2 hours!

Anyone else have any FS ideas for Baoan?

Ringer5
09-10-07, 11:45
I recently noticed a few BBS at the west end of Jinshan Lu, near the junction with Yunshan Lu - I think they are more recent than the well-known ones in Jintai Lu. How long till one of them makes it across Yang Gao Lu into expat-land?

Amping
09-10-07, 14:42
I would appreciate if anyone knowledgeable about KTVs in Shanghai could share some intel with me. I am arranging a KTV outting for me and my 6 good friends. What my friends and me want is a reasaonable priced naked KTV where we can really get down and dirty with these girls. Ideally, I wanted to go to 500 Wuzhong Lu since they had awesome deal for both KTV and sauna, but I've heard that they had shut down the KTV and only do sauna now. Pls, let me know the KTVs name, address, cross street, and price breakdown (mama, girls, servers, girls price for LT/ST) for these KTVs. If you have any mamas and hot KTV girls that do LT/ST that you could recommend, I would really appreciated it.

AP

Amping
09-10-07, 14:45
I would appreciate if anyone knowledgeable about KTVs in Shanghai could share some intel with me. I am arranging a KTV outting for me and my 6 good friends. What my friends and me want is a reasaonable priced naked KTV where we can really get down and dirty with these girls. Ideally, I wanted to go to 500 Wuzhong Lu since they had awesome deal for both KTV and sauna, but I've heard that they had shut down the KTV and only do sauna now. Pls, let me know the KTVs name, address, cross street, and price breakdown (mama, girls, servers, girls price for LT/ST) for these KTVs. If you have any mamas and hot KTV girls that do LT/ST that you could recommend, I would really appreciated it.

AP

Bonzo1
09-10-07, 16:23
Carn,

I agree, there was really nothing wrong with your original post at all, and it was educational/sharing, which is after all the purpose of this forum. There is a culture here, and the Shanghai board is quite sensitive relatively speaking about conforming to some of its forum-specific "rules", for better or worse. You are not the only one who has commented that is can be dissuasive to posting here, which is unfortunate. Meanwhile, the Shanghai forum is also probably the most useful info-packed forum of any on ISG. Anyway, don't take it personally, and most people don't intend any ill will, I believe.

IMHO 800 RMB is a usually a very good deal for LT, especially if it includes really good GFE with a girl you are crazy about. Also, contrary to common advice here paying more than rock bottom can get you better service sometimes, especially if you use people's tips about negotiating down then tipping for good service. Also, negotiating in USD can actually often be a good idea, provided it is you that initiates the USD discussion. 100 USD is only about 750 RMB now (nearly 80 RMB cheaper than 2 years ago), so in fact if you negotiate well in USD you are actually paying LESS than you were 1 year ago and 2 years ago if USD is the currency in which you are paid.

This forum is a great place to share information about not only experiences but also prices, but what any person decides to pay is entirely his own choice and there's certainly no good reason to publicly crucify anyone for the price they paid. In any case the fact is that prices really haven't risen much or at all (in some cases have gone down) over the past few years. As has been said here ad-naseum, there's more than enough to go around (sic, at all price levels).


Just to clarify. The approx. 800 RMB was supposed to be for all night, multiple pops. I cut it short because of the smell. So I did give her the boot. What is your WTF comment about? Was I supposed to sample her snatch at Xin Tian Di?

$100 (aka ~800RMB) is not getting ripped off for LT. So what's up with the "MAN you guys" shit MAB? Why do you say I am "so willing to pay so much." From reading the fucking forum, it would seem that this is pretty much normal price for all night, LT, whatever. The fact that I cut it short for my reasons doesn't mean I should go back on my agreement with the girl.

Agreed that I should have been pickier, but hindsight is 20/20. Not everyone can be the playa that you obviously are. I think I could have picked up a better looking girl, but I wanted to see those titties. Your taste and my taste differs. Get over it.

Now the point of my whole post was to show that a normal looking guy can get off a plane, head over to Xin Tian Di, have some dinner, and take a girl home. I also told details of my story to make others aware of my mistakes/experiences. When someone tries to add to the forum, you don't have to be a dickhead, smarter-than-thou, blowhard. If you want people to contribute to the thread, you might want to think about this.

Nightwing88
09-11-07, 06:27
Nightwing reporting in here on yet another find in Pudong. I'm beginning to realize that any place that says Sauna or Club (Hui Suo) in Chinese must offer special services. I happened to come out of a meeting in the Jin Qiao Pudong area, and walked by Jin Tai Road to see if there was any action in the middle of the day. Not finding anything I liked, I walked to the end of Jin Tai Road. Directly in front of me, on Jin Qiao Road, I see the Jin Qiao Da Fan Dian or Jin Qiao Hotel. On the left side of this building, right above the Bank of China, I see a "Jin Qiao Sauna" sign, pointing me up to the 4th floor. I go around the back of the Bank of China building, find an elevator going upstairs to the fourth floor, and there's a sauna operating inside this building. Though the bathing area looks a little run down, the people inside knew exactly what I was "coming" for.

After the bath, I was led into the back rooms, and a mamasan (Ms. Xiong) appeared. She begins to tell me that they have lots of girls, well-trained, and that they have two offerrings... one at 500 RMB which is a massage and BJ/FS service, and 600 RMB, which also includes a lot of things including coca-cola and I think red wine! I only tried the 500 RMB option. I got a very attractive 24 year old from Dong Bei, and she was very submissive in all positions. After the deed, we chatted, at which time she mentions that their service is 24 hours a day! So, if I feel the need at 5:00AM, and I'm in Jin Qiao, I can get it taken care of! I promised this girl that I would come back for the 600 RMB option next time.

So, for those of you who need to stay nearby the Ramada Hotel in Pudong, here is another option if you don't want to hit Jintai Road.

Address: Next to the Jin Qiao Hotel 上海金桥大饭店
1379 Jin Qiao Road, 金桥路, 1379 号, 浦东, 上海
Go to the Bank of China building next door. Go up to the fourth floor.
Cost: 500RMB/600RMB.

Nightwing

Nightwing88
09-11-07, 06:37
I recently noticed a few BBS at the west end of Jinshan Lu, near the junction with Yunshan Lu - I think they are more recent than the well-known ones in Jintai Lu. How long till one of them makes it across Yang Gao Lu into expat-land?

Ringer5, trust me, better that you cross Yang Gao Lu for your hobby than for someone in expat-land to see you enter one of these places! As far as I'm concerned, Jintai road is convenient enough! I'm beginning to think that this area can offer a lot for us mongers!

Are you talking about Yinshan Lu, or Jin Yang Lu? Can't find it on the map!

Nightwing

Carnesseur
09-11-07, 11:07
I don't agree that Xin Tian Di is such a bad place to pick up women (WGs or not). It may not be the best place in the city. But if you are staying nearby or going there to eat, it can be convenient. There are many hot girls there, and I didn't find the prices (for women) to be different than other places mentioned in the forum. Not sure about the stealing. That didn't happen to me. Negotiating also was not a problem for me.

I'm not recommending that everyone make Xin Tian Di their mongering destination by any means. I simply wanted to let those not familiar with the area know that there are opportunities there and what form those opportunities take.

And sorry about calling you a dickhead. The name was directed at the "you-guys-are-so-stupid" comments in your reply to my post. In the past, I've only heard dickheads say those things. Now I know better. My bad.


So what, are you calling me a dickhead now?
Hey, I didn't make any comments about your taste, I could care less what kind of girls you like.

Ok look, Xin Tian Di is usually a losers game unless you are good at negotiating and know how to handle "Shanghai B*****S. XTD is full of skanky ho's, and many of them will steal from you. WG's in XTD love to prey on foreigners, and often will give the cold shoulder to Local Chinese.

Not recommended for the faint of heart, these girls (some are office girls making extra money) usually have a lot of experience negotiating a good deal for themselves and take pride in short changing you. You can even overhear them talking out loud to their girlfriends about how they screwed their ex-husbands out most of their money.

There is a saying about Shanghai people... "The city where the women are women and so are the men".

Btw, you just kick the girl out if she has a smelly snatch.

MAB

Ringer5
09-11-07, 12:07
Sorry, that would be Yinshan Lu. A few of them are tucked away behind a small grassed area, but anyone who can find the spa on Xiang Cheng can find these!




Are you talking about Yinshan Lu, or Jin Yang Lu? Can't find it on the map!

Nightwing

Wt Smith3
09-11-07, 12:11
Hi everyone,

I was recently contacted by email from a guy who says that he would be able to help me find girls at the cheap (ie 200-400rmb) but that he had one requirement. He wanted to join in (not a bi-situation) and make an orgy of it. He gave me an explanation that his wife doesn't give him enough attention blah blah blah.

Anyway, he wanted to bring 2-4 girls to my hotel where we'll choose a couple and have fun in my hotel.

Though this sounds very enticing. The danger is there since I don't know this guy and having him in my room is raising a flag for me. However, doing the orgy thing and paying that little is keeping my interest.

Any advice?

Albert Punter
09-11-07, 12:26
nicholas,

first of all, let me congratulate for your post !

second, i understand that you couldn't find shanghai hotel sauna as you went around the place.
actually, sauna is right inside the hotel at second floor.



...
the shanghai hotel (near the hilton) is a long established location but what is not always established is its location within the hotel. i walked around the block outside for a good 20 minutes and even looked into a legitimate therapeutic massage place out the back first.
...

Albert Punter
09-11-07, 17:50
Yes, it is not a bad place for picking girls, either pros or freebies.
Personally, I don't like to hunt there as it is full of foreigners, and someone who knows you may recognize you and report back home !
For same reason, I rarely go there when I am with a girl.



I don't agree that Xin Tian Di is such a bad place to pick up women (WGs or not).
...

Nextstop
09-11-07, 23:52
This is just to give proper adulation to those members contributing here. Its really a great help.

For one, I was able to gain enough courage to check-out a "bath house" along Zhang Yang Road here in Pudong. But only HJ there. (I already made a separate report months ago)

And most especially, given me confidence to enter saunas, without any knowledge of Chinese language, and easily/conveniently able to have FS.

I am still currently reading and absorbing all inputs related to Freebies and Take Home drills.

But before that, would try 2 gals same time, in another pudong sauna find by members here.

Thanks guys. Really appreciate it.

Gualtier Malde
09-12-07, 00:26
... just basing on my experience salaries seemed a little high for office girls in simple secretary or accountant position.

Never mind, salary level is a jungle here.
Just consider case of compensation paid to employees you fire: by law (or maybe just use) is a month salary per year of work in the company plus an extra of 2 month salary. However there are companies paying up to 10 or 15 extra month salary. Isn't that crazy ?
Exactly like mongering market ...

Actually, the law is 1 month per year of service. There is also a requirement to offer 30 days notice, or pay in lieu of notice. There are minor rules within this dealing with partial year pro-rata payment, etc.

One way some companies deal with this is to hire employees for one year only, and not renew their contract. Rather, they "re-hire" them with a new contract.

That sort of works, but just hope the employees don't collectively approach the Labor Bureau. They are likely to win, especially against a multi-national.

GM

Gualtier Malde
09-12-07, 00:44
Hi everyone,

I was recently contacted by email from a guy who says that he would be able to help me find girls at the cheap (ie 200-400rmb) but that he had one requirement. He wanted to join in (not a bi-situation) and make an orgy of it. He gave me an explanation that his wife doesn't give him enough attention blah blah blah.

Anyway, he wanted to bring 2-4 girls to my hotel where we'll choose a couple and have fun in my hotel.

Though this sounds very enticing. The danger is there since I don't know this guy and having him in my room is raising a flag for me. However, doing the orgy thing and paying that little is keeping my interest.

Any advice?

I have actually had some very interesting encounters via Craigslist. I had a good threesome with a couple, and have had another encounter with a female.

I wouldn't rule out the guy being legit. However, here are some suggestions to protect yourself:

Meet him in the lobby of a nice hotel *NEAR* your hotel - NOT your hotel. Have him bring the girls with him. If he does, and you like the situation, then you might consider bringing them to your room.

An alternative is to get a room at the Hotel 168, just for the encounter. Don't take any valuables with you. Meet him at that hotel. Only communicate by cell phone. PROTECT your cellphone and wallet if everyone gets naked. Only bring enough cash to cover any committed obligations and the room.

Never tell a stranger where you are staying, and certainly do not give them the room number of your room without meeting them first and getting comfortable with them. Even then, keep your guard up until you have had a successful event and everyone has gone home.

Good luck, and do report back on the result!

GM

Bad Boy Billy
09-12-07, 01:10
Xin Tian Di is also high on Billy's list of 'must do's' every time I am in Shanghai.

I love 'Latina' Brazilian Restaurant upstairs - and also very partial to Kabb - great food - great service.

As for the girlies?

Picked up a 'freebie' there in Feb this year - a 27yo school teacher who was just lonely.

This was a genuine girl - had a baby back in home city Dalian - divorced and now working in Shanghai.

The night I was there actually happened to be Chine New Year..................she would not go home because ex-hubby giving her shit.................did not want to spend CNY alone.............Billy being a compassionate person shared his bed with her................never a mention of money.....................even refused cab fare as she could walk home from my hotel.

Xin Tian Di gets a big 'thumbs up' from Billy.

Blacklisted
09-12-07, 06:00
Xin Tian Di is also high on Billy's list of 'must do's' every time I am in Shanghai.

I love 'Latina' Brazilian Restaurant upstairs - and also very partial to Kabb - great food - great service.

As for the girlies?

Picked up a 'freebie' there in Feb this year - a 27yo school teacher who was just lonely.

This was a genuine girl - had a baby back in home city Dalian - divorced and now working in Shanghai.

The night I was there actually happened to be Chine New Year..................she would not go home because ex-hubby giving her shit.................did not want to spend CNY alone.............Billy being a compassionate person shared his bed with her................never a mention of money.....................even refused cab fare as she could walk home from my hotel.

Xin Tian Di gets a big 'thumbs up' from Billy.

Blacklisted loves the way Billy talks about his good self in the third person. Blacklisted reckons this reminds him of the Fonz from Happy Days and he has this image of Billy in a leather jacket lounging around Xintiandi, clicking his fingers and having a couple of chicks magically appear on his arm.

But Blacklisted reckons XTD is too full of laowais to offer any decent opportunities and the ratio of dumb lao wais full of come and cash ready to be fleeced is off the charts!

But it is a cool place to hang out with a date.

Blacklisted, signing out!

Bad Boy Billy
09-12-07, 06:18
Blacklisted you may be right about the opportunities in XTD.

BUT

Like ALL of China - opportunities seem to rear their heads when least expected.

Billy does not normally 'hunt' in XTD - but if they present then I am happy to accommodate.

As for Billy being like The Fonz - more like George Costanza really – I am seriously ugly.

Speaking of 'opportunities' - as I said above they do sometimes present when least expected.

Check this post I recently submitted in the Beijing thread - http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=638971&postcount=6095

GOD I LOVE CHINA.

WinteRain
09-12-07, 09:24
As for Billy being like The Fonz - more like George Costanza really – I am seriously ugly.

Times I -sometimes- wish I was born caucasian. No matter how you guys look, you seem to -always- have the mojo to attract asian chicks.

Can't say the same about Asian guys attracting white chicks. :(

CheatedInShangha
09-12-07, 16:51
I am sure there are a lot about being cheated but I obviously missed them out!

It is my first time to shanghai and my first time to do this looking for FS, BBS etc. Thing. A real newbie.

Thought I will try out something slow first before I get to the other places mentioned in the website. ' anyway, here is my horror story.

I stayed at the hotel "Park" just near the Nanjing West Road. As soon as you come out there are guys that ask if you want any women. They tell you its 100 for massage, 300 for FS. Looking at the forum I guessed it was possible so I told the guy, I will go and look and if not good, then I leave.

Walk a few blocks then go to this building 8th floor very close to the Howard Johnson hotel. Something called. Pub bar club.

We go in and there are about 20 beautiful women. They take you to sit down at the karaoke room. And they all come in. Rate them between 7-9!

I chose this that very cute and speaks japanese too!

Then they all go out and we chose a very cheap drink. Shortly another lady comes in and says she just wants to sit down. I tell her I only ordered one woman why two? She tell me don't worry, she just sitting.

Then they start bringing other drinks in. I tell them no but they just put it down.

After about 20min and (3 drinks each for the girls) I want to go home with this cute girl so they give us the bill. Guy comes in and says it is 3800 yuen!

We check the bill and the menu, they ordered drinks worth 2000 and the others is for the 20min in the room and 2 girls!

We argue for a long time and eventually I give them everyting in my pocket 600 yuen and he comes back to my hotel room for another US$100!

I was robbed and ended up with no girl! I am so scared now.

Shall I move out of the hotel? I still have one more night. Will they come for me? Can I call the police?

I really wanted a good time but I am so scared now!

I am so scared. So dissapointed. Feel so cheated.

Dumamay
09-12-07, 20:01
Yes, they cheat you because you re japanese, I am sure.

I got the same or worst than you did, although I only lost 200rmb

If you got gut, or next time, when the guy (make sure only one) following you to hotel to make more $$, hit him right in the face real HARD and you RUN.

Before that you don't tell him where you stay. These guys are mostly thugs, if you have the guts to do that, no problem.

Don't call police. Prepare a bat and come back nearby there with a cap on, to stalk the certain guy that took your money.

I fucking forgot the street name where I got this problem in another city. I wrote it down but lost it somewhere. Do not feel bad, I got worst than you.

Mind you, the correct price I paid for the same KTV deal (you were 100% led into a KTV, where they have girls, and price should be 300ST for Shanghai, and the room is about 400) for all long time singing and fruits and girls sitting by feeding me and a real girl home was 3200rmb 3 years ago. This is legit price, at least I think so, since I had a local girl guide with me.

Just to tell you the story to make you feel better, the local girl guide later told me I can leave my luggage at her room to travel to somewhere. I went, and at home, she search my luggage to take my diamond which worths 6000usd (in China, it worths more, later I found out)

Why did I leave that stuff in the luggage? Or why I bring it to China, I don't know. I was pretty careless about it bec I could not sell it back in usa. I never thought of selling it in China. If I thought about it, the store price for mine (a similar size but looks worth than mine) in Shanghai is 176000rmb.

Of course for this I went straight to police Xinhua road SH, which is right behind the guide's house. Police took report, and wanted to arrest the girl. I told them I just want my thing back. Police told me, forget it!

Later that guide tried to pay me back a total of 6000rmb via bank wire. I think this is surely the police work, and they would equal the value of 1rmb to 1usd. Anyway, a lesson for me, and now I am so damn stingy and careful in China. I fight with taxi over 10rmb now, if they cheat me. I fight physically!


I am sure there are a lot about being cheated but I obviously missed them out!

It is my first time to shanghai and my first time to do this looking for FS, BBS etc. Thing. A real newbie.

Thought I will try out something slow first before I get to the other places mentioned in the website. ' anyway, here is my horror story.

I stayed at the hotel "Park" just near the Nanjing West Road. As soon as you come out there are guys that ask if you want any women. They tell you its 100 for massage, 300 for FS. Looking at the forum I guessed it was possible so I told the guy, I will go and look and if not good, then I leave.

Walk a few blocks then go to this building 8th floor very close to the Howard Johnson hotel. Something called. Pub bar club.

We go in and there are about 20 beautiful women. They take you to sit down at the karaoke room. And they all come in. Rate them between 7-9!

I chose this that very cute and speaks japanese too!

Then they all go out and we chose a very cheap drink. Shortly another lady comes in and says she just wants to sit down. I tell her I only ordered one woman why two? She tell me don't worry, she just sitting.

Then they start bringing other drinks in. I tell them no but they just put it down.

After about 20min and (3 drinks each for the girls) I want to go home with this cute girl so they give us the bill. Guy comes in and says it is 3800 yuen!

We check the bill and the menu, they ordered drinks worth 2000 and the others is for the 20min in the room and 2 girls!

We argue for a long time and eventually I give them everyting in my pocket 600 yuen and he comes back to my hotel room for another US$100!

I was robbed and ended up with no girl! I am so scared now.

Shall I move out of the hotel? I still have one more night. Will they come for me? Can I call the police?

I really wanted a good time but I am so scared now!

I am so scared. So dissapointed. Feel so cheated.

Dumamay
09-12-07, 20:22
There is a street in shanghai where you get ST for 200, I went there. Now don't remember the name, but it is in here, our fellow mongers recommended and I checked it correct. Check about 1-7 pages back you can find it. I will find it for you tomorrow.

Don't go to the report of motel 168. There is no more girl tout with white shirt no more.

You violate a big rule: do not go with touts. For male touts: NEVER.

Female tout, if she is young and cute by herself, it is ok. DO NOT GO IN their facility, this is death, if you don't know the place and them. That KTV has 20 pretty girls, but they choose to give you none, instead take 1400rmb of you for their fun. You must find a local friend, just don't put your luggage and valuables at her home like me hahaha. You can ask your hotel to find you a professional tour guide, very cheap, about 50usd a day you can pay the pro guide, who has license to do guide service, then you are in good hand.

If you do want to go by yourself, read this forum shanghai section more and write down info to go by taxi.

The other way is ask a taxi for help, but you don't want KTV. Never leave your taxi unless you see a BBS, with girls sit inside the door and pink light.

KTV, which looks like a club, is not the place to go ALONE. In korea, it is the same rule. Perhaps, Japan will be same.

And use the internet at chinesefriendfinder to search some deals for regulars locally. NEVER GO TO KTV. They can hit you to rob you. You did not get hit yet. Still lucky. My friends got hit in chengdu. These KTVs and bars are PARTICULARLY against other asians, even Chinese overseas.

So read it carefully and have do's and don'ts. You will have what you want, but must be at the right place. The safest place, it is saunna, which many hotels also have. Saunna guys won't rob or hit you, but KTV WILL, this is their THUGGISH way. They are like that to keep the girls. KTV got coverred by local gangsters, the real one like Yakuza. Saunna is not at all like KTV. Saunna is bathhouse, so it is better.

I will be in SH soon, oct 1, if you need help, I will tell you.

The key point of getting girls is that you stay in a 4-5 stars hotel. You never miss, pros or regular, all high quality. Just 350rmb a night you can stay in 4-5 star hotel if you book it by elong.com


I am sure there are a lot about being cheated but I obviously missed them out!

It is my first time to shanghai and my first time to do this looking for FS, BBS etc. Thing. A real newbie.

Thought I will try out something slow first before I get to the other places mentioned in the website. ' anyway, here is my horror story.

I stayed at the hotel "Park" just near the Nanjing West Road. As soon as you come out there are guys that ask if you want any women. They tell you its 100 for massage, 300 for FS. Looking at the forum I guessed it was possible so I told the guy, I will go and look and if not good, then I leave.

Walk a few blocks then go to this building 8th floor very close to the Howard Johnson hotel. Something called. Pub bar club.

We go in and there are about 20 beautiful women. They take you to sit down at the karaoke room. And they all come in. Rate them between 7-9!

I chose this that very cute and speaks japanese too!

Then they all go out and we chose a very cheap drink. Shortly another lady comes in and says she just wants to sit down. I tell her I only ordered one woman why two? She tell me don't worry, she just sitting.

Then they start bringing other drinks in. I tell them no but they just put it down.

After about 20min and (3 drinks each for the girls) I want to go home with this cute girl so they give us the bill. Guy comes in and says it is 3800 yuen!

We check the bill and the menu, they ordered drinks worth 2000 and the others is for the 20min in the room and 2 girls!

We argue for a long time and eventually I give them everyting in my pocket 600 yuen and he comes back to my hotel room for another US$100!

I was robbed and ended up with no girl! I am so scared now.

Shall I move out of the hotel? I still have one more night. Will they come for me? Can I call the police?

I really wanted a good time but I am so scared now!

I am so scared. So dissapointed. Feel so cheated.

GlenEagle
09-13-07, 01:17
Shall I move out of the hotel? I still have one more night. Will they come for me? Can I call the police?

You should report this to the police, the local authority takes such cases very seriously as it damage the image of Shanghai. Due to the lack of evidence, you might not get very far but at least, it might get them blacklisted and they could lose their business licence.

Park Hotel is an old hotel where I have doubt in their security, since they are aware of the room you are staying, I will recommend that you change to another hotel out before you proceed to make the report.

Just my POV.

GlenEagle

Farmboy5
09-13-07, 03:40
I am sure there are a lot about being cheated but I obviously missed them out!

It is my first time to shanghai and my first time to do this looking for FS, BBS etc. Thing. A real newbie.

Thought I will try out something slow first before I get to the other places mentioned in the website. ' anyway, here is my horror story.

I stayed at the hotel "Park" just near the Nanjing West Road. As soon as you come out there are guys that ask if you want any women. They tell you its 100 for massage, 300 for FS. Looking at the forum I guessed it was possible so I told the guy, I will go and look and if not good, then I leave.

Walk a few blocks then go to this building 8th floor very close to the Howard Johnson hotel. Something called. Pub bar club.

We go in and there are about 20 beautiful women. They take you to sit down at the karaoke room. And they all come in. Rate them between 7-9!

I chose this that very cute and speaks japanese too!

Then they all go out and we chose a very cheap drink. Shortly another lady comes in and says she just wants to sit down. I tell her I only ordered one woman why two? She tell me don't worry, she just sitting.

Then they start bringing other drinks in. I tell them no but they just put it down.

After about 20min and (3 drinks each for the girls) I want to go home with this cute girl so they give us the bill. Guy comes in and says it is 3800 yuen!

We check the bill and the menu, they ordered drinks worth 2000 and the others is for the 20min in the room and 2 girls!

We argue for a long time and eventually I give them everyting in my pocket 600 yuen and he comes back to my hotel room for another US$100!

I was robbed and ended up with no girl! I am so scared now.

Shall I move out of the hotel? I still have one more night. Will they come for me? Can I call the police?

I really wanted a good time but I am so scared now!

I am so scared. So dissapointed. Feel so cheated.

You should feel like a dumbass. If you have read this forum at all before this adventure, you would know to NEVER FOLLOW A TOUT ON THE STREET!

They are not going to bother you any more. They're put finding another sucker.

It will do no good to call the police at this point in the story. If you were gong to call them, when you walked back into the hotel you should have walked up to the desk and asked the hotel people to call the police. The guy would have immediately left the premises.

Gsreyrey22
09-13-07, 04:26
I think the local law enforcement just going to think of him as a stupid tourist who got ripped off.

If anything, with the intent to commit prostitution himself. The LE won't do anything to do him, and likewise, the establishment that ripped him off is not going to get charged either.

He really doesnt have much of anything to gain by pursuing this.

Chalk it up to learning experience, and don't do it again.


You should report this to the police, the local authority takes such cases very seriously as it damage the image of Shanghai. Due to the lack of evidence, you might not get very far but at least, it might get them blacklisted and they could lose their business licence.

Park Hotel is an old hotel where I have doubt in their security, since they are aware of the room you are staying, I will recommend that you change to another hotel out before you proceed to make the report.

Just my POV.

GlenEagle

Levitian
09-13-07, 05:00
CheatedInShangha,

It is incredible, that this is still happening with people who do claim to have read the forum.

I don't know how many times there were clear warnings posted from others here in this forum to never, ever follow touts, male or female.

Only approx. 3 -4 months ago, somebody else posted a real horror story about getting cheated by touts, and from what you described about the location (close to HJ Hotel), it seems that it was the same place and the same protagonists.

Mate, I do feel sorry for you, but hopefully, this was a lesson well learned.

To all other newbies coming to Shanghai: Never, never, never follow any touts or girls in the street. You will get cheated, for sure. And, if you have bad luck, you will even get beaten up in those establishments.

Levitian

Blacklisted
09-13-07, 06:13
CheatedInShangha,

It is incredible, that this is still happening with people who do claim to have read the forum.

I don't know how many times there were clear warnings posted from others here in this forum to never, ever follow touts, male or female.

Only approx. 3 -4 months ago, somebody else posted a real horror story about getting cheated by touts, and from what you described about the location (close to HJ Hotel), it seems that it was the same place and the same protagonists.

Mate, I do feel sorry for you, but hopefully, this was a lesson well learned.

To all other newbies coming to Shanghai: Never, never, never follow any touts or girls in the street. You will get cheated, for sure. And, if you have bad luck, you will even get beaten up in those establishments.

Levitian

Exactly.

No reason to be scared though. Shanghai is a safe place.

Really should have done your homework better first on this, so you are partially to blame for this.

These places probably have some degree of protection from police anyway. I think they must be reeling in big money as these types of touts are everywhere uneducated lao wai roam.

I am curious as to whether you had this happen and then found the forum, or have been another lurker and just not RTFF?

Wt Smith3
09-13-07, 09:28
Hey, everyone. I'm taking a local girl I picked up to the football game and I was wondering where I should take her to eat dinner (before the game). The game I want to see is at 8pm so I figured a casual place to eat something light BUT I would like it to be a "hip" place to make her feel special and spoiled. I was thinking of XTD but could you recommend a place to eat around 6-ishpm where we don't need to dress up (I. E. Jeans or even shorts)?

Thank you!

John
09-13-07, 10:58
This exact same B.S. happend to me as well while i was in Shanghai. It is just so F'n sad that things like this happen here in Shanghai. That is why on my next trip to Shanghai, I have decided to read the board ahead in time.

Thank God, this crap didn't end up in some kind of attack on me. I didn't RTFF before going to Shanghai because it was a business trip and i didn't have intention of mongering, but for one time that i had the time, this same Robbery thing happend with me. It was on same F'n Nanjing Road that the Tout took me from to a KTV.

The explanation given was that KTV's have a sitting fee of 3000+ Rmb. It is just so F'n sad that i don't think that i would ever go into a KTV ever again.

I have been to many countries going out with Sex workers all over, but the worst two experience that i have had were both in China, once in Shanghai, and once in Guangzhou.

I always thought about posting my experiences, but i always stopped my self from posting my experience in Shanghai, as i knew, that i was to blame for not RTFF.

Anyways, I am glad that you posted your experience. Getting ripped off by a girl for not providing good service is one thing. I can take that, but this kind of robbery is just B.S. (a complete and utter B.S.)

Regards,

John.



I am sure there are a lot about being cheated but I obviously missed them out!

It is my first time to shanghai and my first time to do this looking for FS, BBS etc. Thing. A real newbie.

Thought I will try out something slow first before I get to the other places mentioned in the website. ' anyway, here is my horror story.

I stayed at the hotel "Park" just near the Nanjing West Road. As soon as you come out there are guys that ask if you want any women. They tell you its 100 for massage, 300 for FS. Looking at the forum I guessed it was possible so I told the guy, I will go and look and if not good, then I leave.

Walk a few blocks then go to this building 8th floor very close to the Howard Johnson hotel. Something called. Pub bar club.

We go in and there are about 20 beautiful women. They take you to sit down at the karaoke room. And they all come in. Rate them between 7-9!

I chose this that very cute and speaks japanese too!

Then they all go out and we chose a very cheap drink. Shortly another lady comes in and says she just wants to sit down. I tell her I only ordered one woman why two? She tell me don't worry, she just sitting.

Then they start bringing other drinks in. I tell them no but they just put it down.

After about 20min and (3 drinks each for the girls) I want to go home with this cute girl so they give us the bill. Guy comes in and says it is 3800 yuen!

We check the bill and the menu, they ordered drinks worth 2000 and the others is for the 20min in the room and 2 girls!

We argue for a long time and eventually I give them everyting in my pocket 600 yuen and he comes back to my hotel room for another US$100!

I was robbed and ended up with no girl! I am so scared now.

Shall I move out of the hotel? I still have one more night. Will they come for me? Can I call the police?

I really wanted a good time but I am so scared now!

I am so scared. So dissapointed. Feel so cheated.

JayCar2014
09-13-07, 12:08
Dear AG,

I did eventually find the Shanghai Hotel sauna on the 2nd floor that same night. Did try out the place but was a little disappointed as to general condition of the place.

Nicholas3801

Albert Punter
09-13-07, 12:28
I am sorry for what happened to you.
However, I don't think you read in this forum that is possible/safe to go with touts.

Anyhow, ALL please read this report outlining mongering safety "procedures" http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=445901&postcount=1077



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As soon as you come out there are guys that ask if you want any women. They tell you its 100 for massage, 300 for FS. Looking at the forum I guessed it was possible so ...

Sauro07
09-13-07, 16:14
The key point of getting girls is that you stay in a 4-5 stars hotel. You never miss, pros or regular, all high quality. Just 350rmb a night you can stay in 4-5 star hotel if you book it by elong.comDumamay,

What do you mean by that? Why the hotel makes the difference? Girls in the bar or when you ask something at the concierge?

BTW, with regards to the guy that was cheated, I feel sorry for him. A foreigner walking in China is a target, and you have to simply ignore. Totally!

Cheers,

Sauro07

CheatedInShangha
09-13-07, 17:14
Hi guys!

Thanks so much for the responses. Yeah you are all right, I guess I didn't RTFF enough, just looked for good places to go to etc.

Thank goodness its my last night in SH though and I get to go home tomorrow. Didn't sleep well at all last night, kept dreaming of the thug, who was twice my size, walking me back to the hotel and beating me up and stealing all my money.

Sad thing was that as we walked back to the hotel (he had me close to him) I saw a group of more people going up to the same place! If the thug wasnt so big, I would have gone up to warn those guys! Sorry, man I was just so scared!

Anyway, today I bascially stayed out of the hotel the whole day and around 6pm I gathered enough courage to go mongering once more!

I went to Buo Duo. Went straight down Lu Ban Lu and turned into Xie Tu Lu. The taxi dropped me right outside the Century Mart Supermarket. The entrance to Buo Duo is on the right (if you facing the century mart). You go into the building and use the lift on the far left side (it only goes up to 4).

All I can say about this place (being a newbie and 1st time mongerer) is WOW! Definitely only going to Sauna places from now on! Got led into the room, changed, waited 5minutes and was led through to the room where we get to chose the ladies.

I chose number 21 (I think), cute face 8 and georgeous body 8. We went into the room and did the shower thing. She massaged me with her tits, sucked/licked me everywhere! I mean everywhere! WOW! Anyway, did some BJ did a lot more licking and then went to the bed.

There she started kissing and tonguing me (I wouldn't normally/ want to kiss her but I guess I really got carried away). She then did the ice/warm water BJ and again licking and tonguing my ass (didn't really like that part).

She then asked what type of outfit: nurse, teacher, airhostess etc. I told her to supprise me. She chose the stocking type clothing.

She then did the red rope upside down, swinging around BJ. After that, she put a condom on my big toe and starting doing it to my toe whilst sucking on the other toe! Felt kinky

After all that, we did the deed (all styles) with her screaming like crazy. After 10 min I could'nt help it as I came doggy style. Immediatly she says come, lets do it again! I really want you! She starts licking me all over and playing with me again but I was really tired so I just asked her to lie down and just rest for awhile. We talked and found out that they get 40% of the 780yuen. Every few min she keeps asking me to do it again to her!

Anyway, left the sauna a very happy happy man! Thank goodness my last night in SH was a good experience! Thanks to everyone for providing the info and reports! Keep it up!

Thanks again to the feedback to my horror story- take care guys! Until my next trip!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Fuzimiao
09-14-07, 00:02
I had to flee a family reunion this week, so checked into the new 7 Days Inn in Weifang Lu, Brand new building, opened last month. Booked on internet, checked in accompanied by two "friends", nobody gave them a second glance. Five minutes later a discrete tap on the door, a porter with a third toothbrush!. Had unaccompanied visitors coming and going throughout the night, no problems. Room was basic, but clean and fresh, (The place is brand new.) Price for an executive room with king sized bed, 197rmb, includes Internet. Lobby display cabinet has a condom display, Sorry if this sounds like advertising, it's not intended as such, only a positive experience.

Fuzi

Bad Boy Billy
09-14-07, 01:49
Hey, everyone. I'm taking a local girl I picked up to the football game and I was wondering where I should take her to eat dinner (before the game). The game I want to see is at 8pm so I figured a casual place to eat something light BUT I would like it to be a "hip" place to make her feel special and spoiled. I was thinking of XTD but could you recommend a place to eat around 6-ishpm where we don't need to dress up (I. E. Jeans or even shorts)?

Thank you!

Mate - KABB - best food in XTD - dress no problem.

As you enter from the 'Starbucks' end - turn left before Luna - walk straight ahead - KABB at 1 to 2 o'clock as you move forward - you will not miss it.

Levitian
09-14-07, 01:53
Wrong website, try "www.smartshanghai.com".

Btw, I very seldomly do dress up when going out for dinner in SHA, even when I go to the more fancy places. I do avoid shorts, though, but jeans is definitely commonly accepted.

Levitian

Wt Smith3
09-14-07, 04:23
Wrong website, try "www.smartshanghai.com".

Btw, I very seldomly do dress up when going out for dinner in SHA, even when I go to the more fancy places. I do avoid shorts, though, but jeans is definitely commonly accepted.

LevitianThis board is awesome! I have learned so much from this board for both BKK and my stay in HK/China. Though there were a couple low points, I chalk those up to experience. I at least was not cheated, scammed etc. And for that I am forever thankful.

After 18 days, I'm ready to head home but I'll be back to Indonesia, MLY, AUS and India in the next several months so I'll be back here.

Blacklisted
09-14-07, 06:15
[QUOTE=CheatedInShangha]

Anyway, left the sauna a very happy happy man! Thank goodness my last night in SH was a good experience! Thanks to everyone for providing the info and reports! Keep it up!

Thanks again to the feedback to my horror story- take care guys! Until my next trip! [QUOTE]

Glad to hear that things turned out alright for you. Hope others have taken note of your experience and people will monger safely around here!

Rank Xerox
09-14-07, 13:30
The Pub: Xiaomi is back! As many fellow mongers wrote, she is the #1 at that place. Funny, nice big natural breast, passionate, very good BBJCIM. Enjoy

Dabeast
09-14-07, 13:44
This report is long overdue as the event happened in mid August - I just have not had the time to write it.

Wisdom Spring is my Sauna of choice in Shanghai. Eventhough they do not offer a soapy service the decor and surroundings are first class and I do not mind paying a bit more for it. I have always had good experiences there in the past.

However, on my last visit I arrived at around at midnight and after doing the usual shower routine was shown into the room. I proceeded to reject 3 girls one-by-one and eventually the attendent took me to another room where there was a line up of 4-5 girls. This is a first as they never had a line up before. The quality was shocking nothing more than 4-5 at best. As I was horny I took the girl that smiled and walked off back to my room.

After a few minutes she turned up ( I dont speak a word of Chinese ) and started complaining about my size etc. I just got pissed and started to leave and then she motioned that she would carry on. No way am I paying for this shit so I put on my pajamas and walk straight back to reception and started complaining. No one understood a word of English and finally another Chinese monger who had finished ended up translating for me. After about 15 mins of heavy negotiation they refunded my money less the room / sauna fee of RMB298 ( I Think ).

I was so pissed off and would never go there again as it is just not foriigner friendly and in any case the girl quality was bad.

Jumped in a taxi and went over to OK Sauna on 209 Urumuqi Bei Lu and had a great time with number 85.

Dabeast

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Dumamay
09-14-07, 20:48
Dumamay,

What do you mean by that? Why the hotel makes the difference? Girls in the bar or when you ask something at the concierge?

BTW, with regards to the guy that was cheated, I feel sorry for him. A foreigner walking in China is a target, and you have to simply ignore. Totally!

Cheers,

Sauro07Here is the list why we should stay in 4-5 star hotels

They have lots of excellent girls right in their sauna.

Once I saw an amazing girl in Crown Plaza Jinan massage parlor. The price of doing her: 700rmb ST. This includes 200rmb for the room, since I am not in-house guest. She is more beautiful and retrospective than any girl we can see at any facility you can think of, institution, companies, etc

Bec of this, it leads to you having advantage in a secret competition of the girls: your aff hotties will rush to see you and open their legs at once, if you stay in the good place. Girls call this "status".

I tried cheap hotel already bros, 150-200rmb a night, did not work out. A girl even said "it is near my home", when I stayed at a hotel near Caobao road. And these cheaper hotels are far from downtown, your taxi fare brings back the same. I blew another chance in BJ, same reason. At the end I did not save any thing, but loose the date. They don't want to come, or come just to go, because the hostel is hella far away and you look cheap doing so. And they know the taxi fare! And the nights in these cheap hotel are just like you are in countryside inn!

I think you get it now. For me, from now on, only 4-5 stars. No matter how it costs hehe.

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Addictedtosex
09-15-07, 02:35
Hi,

I'm about to head to Shanghai for a few days, was wondering if the members can give me some advice as to the best Saunas to visit? I'm looking for the best looking girls and good facility. Value is secondary amongst my concerns. I've always just gone to Macau, and am used to the saunas there (I. E. 18 Sauna). Can I expect anything similar? Thanks in advance to any replies!

WinteRain
09-15-07, 05:33
I think you get it now. For me, from now on, only 4-5 stars. No matter how it costs hehe.Well, that is assuming money is not a factor. :)

WinteRain
09-15-07, 05:55
Just got back to Shanghai, decided to look up my gf from Thompson but she couldn't be found, so decided to look her up there instead. Apparently there's been a change of management (girl side) and she ain't there anymore. Oh well, least I had a freebie. So the mamasan brought in the room a lineup, I was quite surprised, alot of new faces and the previous uglier ones are gone (I recalled one who was 1.5 times my size, in height and build).

I am well aware of the concept that pretty girls = poor service, but damn it, like many mongers here, I'm a sucker for a pretty face and huge tits. While there were quite a few 7-8s, I picked the last of the line up, #609 without much hesitation.

She was very pretty, and I'm saying by Chinese standards. Looked like some university sweet lil' thing. Porcelain white and smooth skin, with C-D cups. Her cleavage was really somethin'.

Anyway, like my usual practice in hookin' up with these girls, I started chatting her up, genuinely wanting to know more about her, etc. She ended up spending quite a portion of the session chatting with me, in between licks, etc. Haha, but it wasn't too bad. We still had time for 2 pops and massage in between.

Onto the service. I was blown away. I had thought I'd get a very SOP sauna procedure, but from her first move, I already knew it'd be different. Instead of starting off with a cat-bath, she gave a very tender massage with her tits/nips from my soles, to my thighs, to my back. It was very delicate and very soothing. She then transitioned seamless into the cat bath. Her tongue skills were excellent. Just enough touch to feel the licking, but not enough to feel any forceful pressure. It felt like a real cat-bath. Wet and delicate.

Another thing that she did different was she sprayed some aromatic oil on me. How did this enhance her performance (my pleasure)? She enjoyed every single lick of it and licked up every bit of the fragrance. Also, she rarely spat in the bin, like most girls do, which is sometimes very unsightly and unsoundly.

I flipped over, she gave some awesome tongue action to the nipples and down to my privates, AR and all. I don't have to say how good her tongue action is anymore. Her BJ was very wet and smooth. No teeth felt, and felt like doin' someone barebacked. After a little while, she took out a mint spray and used it while continuing with the BJ. Had a little tingling sensation, which I felt neutral about.

FJ was done in cowgirl, mish, doggie. She was staring straight in my eyes the whole time we were in mish, and while in doggie, she was looking at me via the mirror at the side. There was little moaning though, but nevermind that... looking at her is good enough. First round went at it for about 5 mins, stopped, had a smoke while we chatted and she massaged my thighs, and then she got me up and went at it for another 15mins.

Exchanged phone numbers, and I hope to see her privately soon.

Check her out and let me know how she treats you! :)

Name: Liu Qian #609
Venue: Thompson Sauna @
Face: 9/10
Body: 8/10
Foreplay: 9/10
BBBJ: 9/10
FJ: 7/10
GFE: 9/10

PS: Search Shanghai forum for Thompson address if you need it.

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Mark17
09-15-07, 05:58
Hi,

I'm about to head to Shanghai for a few days, was wondering if the members can give me some advice as to the best Saunas to visit? I'm looking for the best looking girls and good facility. Value is secondary amongst my concerns. I've always just gone to Macau, and am used to the saunas there (I. E. 18 Sauna). Can I expect anything similar? Thanks in advance to any replies!Right now YuPing is closed... from most reports, this is the best one.

I recommend the Shanghai Hotel Sauna. I've been to both, but over all the facilities are better at the SHS, and the girl selection is about the same.

Going there this afternoon. If something changed, I post a report.

Albert Punter
09-15-07, 11:12
Unfortunately, I don't know that sauna in Macau so I cannot compare.
However, let me tell you that saunas are mentioned very often here. Some even in this page.
So, I believe you should scroll some pages in this thread, read some reports and then make more specific question about some venues that other members have experimented.


Hi,

I'm about to head to Shanghai for a few days, was wondering if the members can give me some advice as to the best Saunas to visit? I'm looking for the best looking girls and good facility. Value is secondary amongst my concerns. I've always just gone to Macau, and am used to the saunas there (I. E. 18 Sauna). Can I expect anything similar? Thanks in advance to any replies!

Farmboy5
09-15-07, 11:23
Hi,

I'm about to head to Shanghai for a few days, was wondering if the members can give me some advice as to the best Saunas to visit? I'm looking for the best looking girls and good facility. Value is secondary amongst my concerns. I've always just gone to Macau, and am used to the saunas there (I. E. 18 Sauna). Can I expect anything similar? Thanks in advance to any replies!

Please nobody answer this freeloader who is too lazy to read.

Mark17
09-15-07, 13:44
WinteRain,

What is the cost at this place?

And where is it?

I saw the streets, but not sure.

Can someone locate where it is on this map?

Andy, where near the Landis Hotel?

Bad Boy Billy
09-16-07, 01:46
Guys I have done a seach ant turned up that Thompson Sauna is here - Jin Yu Lan Plaza, corner of Xu Jia Hui Lu and Da Pu Lu.

Is that correct?

Does anybody have a business card from Thompson Sauna that they can scan and post?

Abzsafado
09-16-07, 03:43
OK guys time for some info.

Who has been to Attica and / or Bar Rouge lately?

What is the quality like right at moment?

I was in both recently, Bar Rouge was not too impressive but still plenty of workers. Attica was dead one night then at the weekend it was full of the most stunning mixture of asians, latinos and europeans that I have ever seen!

Abzsafado
09-16-07, 03:48
Guys I have done a seach ant turned up that Thompson Sauna is here - Jin Yu Lan Plaza, corner of Xu Jia Hui Lu and Da Pu Lu.

Is that correct?

Does anybody have a business card from Thompson Sauna that they can scan and post?
Hongkongfooey posted the card on the 2nd of september about 7 pages back.

Farmboy5
09-16-07, 03:59
Guys I have done a seach ant turned up that Thompson Sauna is here - Jin Yu Lan Plaza, corner of Xu Jia Hui Lu and Da Pu Lu.

Is that correct?

Does anybody have a business card from Thompson Sauna that they can scan and post?

Address is correct. If you stand on XuJiaHui Lu and look at JinYuLan Plaza you will see a large Thomson neon sign on the left side about the fourth floor.

FreebieFan
09-16-07, 05:49
Hi,

Used to live in Shanghai and had a few days there two weeks back. A great few days.

On previous trip I had actually scored with my ex secretary. (and thats gotta be many guys fantasty.) so I knew at the very worst on this trip I would be well taken care of.

But before I visited, I checked thru some ads about shanghai. And got into a correspondance with an American lady who had indicated she wanted to be fingered in public in Shanghai. Well I was up for that and we arranged a time and place. Well one day before meeting, she bailed on me. That meant I would have a whole free afternoon in Shangahi.

OK fast forward and I arrived in Shanghai and there is Ms Ex Secretary looking sweet waiting for me at airport. Long drive to hotel and time to get hands inside Ms Secretaries panties. Shanghai taxi drivers are wonderfully discreet. Hotel, dinner and take secretary back to room for a good bonk. Then she goes home (good Shanghai gal still living with parents)

Next day she knocks on my door and says shes taken the day off. It was the day Id planned on the finger gurl so it meant I wasnt at a total loss. Had an afternonn shag then asked her to leave as I had an appoinment with a mate.

He lives in Sh and knows some of the sauna places that I know but he took me to a new one. If your on Najing road on same side as Portman, walk past Baudeman hotel (maybe wrong spelling) about two blocks. Theres a sign that says "internet /games/ bar". Take elevator to 6th floor and its a neat HC. No idea of name. ,

Picked my gal and she had the longest pussy hair id ever seen. Heck she even massaged me with it. Anyways she was cute and I enjoyed. Got a discount and was RM700. Really good time.

Then we walked to a restaurant but along the way saw two cute ladies trying to get customers into a restaurant/KTV place. Realised they werent Chinese but filipina. So as I know some tagalog, we had a fun conversation and made a note to return. Had our dinner and I had a choice. Back to the room to study for my presentation. Or the waitresses. Obvious choice really. So I went to this place and sat with both waitresses. Got both numbers but wasnt sure which one. As part of a game we were talking about nipples. They touched mine and I touched theres. Anyway one waitress left and I'm sitting with other. And ran my hand up her leg. No problem there. So curved it inside her panties. No problems there. OK. At that point it was late and I had a presentation to study so back to my room.

Next day after long meeting went to Peacock Massage. Its somewhere near Zhu Jia Hui. Its mentioned earleir in this board. Was also lots of fun. 90 min massage and suprisingly my gal spoke some english. I love the fluttering hands part of the massage and the ball and ass massage. Anyways we got kissing. Which is rare. And got her top off. She gave me a delightful wank. And only RM298 for 90 mins plus tip. Good time. She was very turned on. And then she did something unusual. She asked for MY number. She never replied to my sms tho.

Then onto dinner and then off to see the waitress. Some more touching etc and she agreed to come to my hotel. , She turned up at 2am and we spent hours watching the rugby world cup and good intense sex. She left quietly (don't you hate it when they insist you walk them to front door! ) and was freeeeee!

Next day meeting, dinner with ex secretary and took her back for a bonk. Bu needed to get her out by 12 midnight. As the waitress was coming back at 2am. Which she did. All was good. And returned to my Asian city drained.

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Bad Boy Billy
09-16-07, 07:32
Hongkongfooey posted the card on the 2nd of september about 7 pages back.

Thanks mate - I appreciate your help - don't you just hate these pricks who do not RTFF?

Mark17
09-16-07, 07:51
I was back in SH again for two days.

Friday afternoon, I arrived and messaged a girl I see for room service. Found her on Craigslist. 700 RMB, normally 1 shot, I have done two with her before.

Evening just hung out at Malones. Stayed because I like the band. Left aroud 2am? Dropped in at Manhattan. The place was packed. And many girls left. Had too many beers at that point, and headed back to the Hilton. Stopped at Crossroads bar across the street for a nightcap. The girls there are friendly.

Sat afternoon (when I woke up), went over to the Shanghai hotel. About 4pm or so. About 15 girls to pick from, a few 7's. The girl I got spoke maybe 3 words of English. But everything else was very good. 650RMB if you leave before 7pm. Ran into another guy on the elevator (American). He lives in SH 3 years, and a friend just told him about the place. He was satisfied. Asked how I knew, and I mentioned this board.

Went to Malones again, and ran into another American there. He has been living there for 9 months, and knew of some places. But just the normal places. He did not know of this board.

We listened to two sets, and went to Manhattan. Lots of Philoppinos as normal. Two bland looking Chinese next to us at the bar, then a couple (M&F) walk up and order a couple beers. THe guy spoke little English, and got the other two Chinese girls talking with us. Then mentioning several things that I added up, he either wanted me to go back with him and his gf, or me and the Chinese girl go back with them. Not that I wouldn't do somethings like that, but none the women were not up to my standards.

They had us occupied, so we were not able to talk with other girls. I went to the bathroom and exited, and my friend fakes a phone call, and came out the front. We stopped in one of the upstairs bars. Negotiated 30 for a beer, (they wanted 60), and stayed a bit. Just girls working wanting you to buy them drinks.

I asked him if he was up to some action, and he agreed, so we headed over to the old bar street across and down a couple blocks from the Hilton. There are about 6-8 bars left there. I think it was the "original" bar street in SH along time ago. Some bars are by the girl drink types. Others. Well All of them are old, and not classy as Tongren Lu bars.

We stopped in "Pretty Girl". The first bar you come to off the main road. A girl I knew from before, remembered me, and we went inside. Went to the back room where they have a pool table. They try to swam you with 2 or more girls each, but I told her just one each. (ended up with 4 anyways later on. She puts my hand down her crotch. And the other girls start massage my buddy. Some other guys come in, so we move to the other side of the room. Lots of touching, massaging, gropeing. Several rounds of drinks. My girl motions with her hand and mouth open, asking me if I want BJ, and I nod yes. So we go off in the corner. And she does the dead. I look over and two girls are going at my friend.

We were there about 1 1/2 I think. Total damage with tips 1100. Kind of steep, for 2 BJ's but lots of fun, and several drinks.

Nightcap at the Crossroads, where the guy and I exchanged emails.

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WinteRain
09-16-07, 08:06
WinteRain,

What is the cost at this place?

And where is it?

I saw the streets, but not sure.

Can someone locate where it is on this map?

Andy, where near the Landis Hotel?Oops my bad, forgot to state the price. 600 RMB in the day, 700 RMB at night.

A can of Pepsi is 10 RMB.

World Guy Sh
09-16-07, 12:15
Just been to visit Buo Dao at Xietu Lu and Luban Lu. It seems to have rave reviews from here but I have to say it was probably the poorest experience since being in Shanghai.

The Good Parts
- Staff excellent - helpful but discreet
- Great place - nicely done out
- Big Rooms
- Good sized line up of 5-7's
- English spoken by staff and girls
- Easy to find - look at Century Mart, right hand side, dim entrance lobby. Far to lift to 4th floor.

The Bad Parts
- How rushed can it have been? Not sure we managed an hour
- An inflatable mattress in the wt room - come on, that's poor
- Cos play was a bit naff - no underwear/net thing
- Tried to up sell to two girls in the room
- The fish bowl is not one way

The Girl
No 65 from Dongbei aged 20, SPOKE some ENGLISH. Probably a 7. Had the most perfect chest, size B. But the whole performance was mechanical and dull. She kept on going on about the size of my appendage (not something I have had happen in ages and no overnight miracle). I expected two shots, only got one (couldn't work out if the music was fast or slow, but judging by today was probably drum and bass 120bpm).

Back to the rest room. Offered a foot massage and chatted to another customer (River - good to meet you). But that was pricey when the bill came. The foot massage was good, and girl giving it was probably the most attractive girl I saw there - at least she seemed relaxed and un rushed.

There were a couple of other girls who I wouldn't mind trying - one was really smiling in my direction but hadn't clicked she could actually see me. S*** happens eh? Would also explain why the most attractive girl there was so obviously not wanting to be picked.

So, not a great Sunday afternoon all round. 968 all in (200RMB for feet). I have the card which I will post in a bit for those who want to go or PM me.

WGS

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Clevererhandle
09-16-07, 15:28
I stayed at the Ramada Plaza Pudong in early August. To thank-you for all the help, here's my Mongering Report:

Yuki Massage Outcall: ad in Shanghai Daily (provided free by my hotel at breakfast). 13681662209. Yuki answered, asked for special massage, she said 1000, I said "A friend said 700" she said OK. Sent Vicki. Young, large breasts, good partner. DFK, etc. Kinda like an early GFE where you're not quite in synch but she's willing to please and happy to be with you. She's Yuki's roommate. 700 + 100 taxi. Called back for Yuki, she was busy. Substitute was also a pleasent experience.

BaDong Sauna: 836 Dong Feng Lu or 860 Dong Feng, I forget. --doesn't matter too much, as there is a sauna at each address :) To get there, take the metro (line 2, green) to the ShiJi metro stop, then walk south on DongFeng Lu. Very easy to find. Up the escalators to the 4th floor. I think you may pass by a hotel lobby if you pick one set of escalators.

Typical sauna experience as related many times before. Presented with a line-up of 4 girls, 2 were sub-standard, 1 was nice looking, and another very pretty. I picked the two better ones. The nice looking one turned out to have great breasts and great attitude. The very pretty one kinda took charge, make lots of over-the-top fake moans, but wasn't into it (the breasted one was). It as 1500 for the 2, IIRC. Quite a bit, but much cheaper than in the states. Overall, I think the Merrilyn Hotel's sauna was a bit nicer (see below).

Si Yuan sauna, inside the Merrilyn Hotel, 818 Zhang Yang, corner of ZhangYang, Dong Feng, and Century (across from the Intercontinental Hotel in Pudong). You actually pass by this place to get to BaDong if you come out of the ShiJi metro stop (line 2, green).

Typical suana experience. 800RMB IIRC. Lineup of around 10, almost all above average. Picked the tallest one. When she took her clothes off, revealed an outstanding body--#17 is her, I think.

Small shops (BBS/FootMassage):

I was staying at the Ramada Plaza Pudong on Xin Jin Qiao. Nearby are plenty of BBSs. To find them:

- leave the hotel, and turn right onto Xin Jin Qiao (which turns into Biyun Lu if you go too far).

- take first right, onto Hong Feng Lu, stay on the right-hand side.

- Go past YangGao Lu--the big multilane road.

Now you're in China. There are two bars just after YangGao that had ladies in them (didn't sample), and at least 2 BBSs. During the day, they seem to cut hair sometimes. The ladies at the door don't seem very attractive, but I didn't look close.

- You can take the first left, where there are more BBSs on the right-hand side. Went during the day, and no one waved me in.

- You can take the first right, JinTai Lu, to find yet more. I picked the first one here, which is on the left-hand side of the street (so I crossed JinTai before turning right). It's one of the first stores on the left and there are a lot of ladies in a waiting area. 300RMB for one pop with a very hot young woman (I didn't negotiate). Lidy or Lily.
She couldn't have been 1.5m or 43Kg but she had gorgeous C-cup breasts. I was a little worried about fit, but she was properly sized. She did me in a room behind the shop--there are a set of those tall apartment communities there, and she walked me into what I think is her living/fucking quarters and did it on a bamboo bed.

Misc:

- Across the street is an english pub called The Flying Fox. Nice food, close.

- Caddy-corner (on Hong Feng/Biyun corner) is ShaNaNa Massage Center. Quite elaborate inside, and some great massage-but no sex for me.

-I also tried the Four Season Massage, just down Biyun. Most of the girls were all-business, but one, #19, was 'friendly'--for money. HJ 200 (a lot, I know. but at the time well worth it. She's young, but had the best technique I've run across). It was my favorite place for regular massage outcall: 50308406

- Elain Massage, further down the street from ShaNaNa and Four Seasons (still on Biyun). Girls here would give HJ for 300, but the rest of the massage was below par.

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Joinem
09-16-07, 18:23
Hongkongfooey posted the card on the 2nd of september about 7 pages back.You have to hand it to Hongkongfooey for sending us those cards, but his scanner was having real problems at the time.

Here is some improvement, by Photoshop.

Great forum!

CoolGuyShanghai
09-17-07, 08:23
Does any of you guys know a kind of no-tell motel in shanghai? Should be a location where I can meet a girl for 1-2 hours and pay for this time? This is becausei can not meet her at my home and she can not meet me at her home. :.) should be avaiable during daytime and costs nottoo high.

Any recommendations appreciated. Thanks and good luck!

Makeupaname
09-17-07, 09:37
Does any of you guys know a kind of no-tell motel in shanghai? Should be a location where I can meet a girl for 1-2 hours and pay for this time? This is becausei can not meet her at my home and she can not meet me at her home. :.) should be avaiable during daytime and costs nottoo high.

Any recommendations appreciated. Thanks and good luck!The Green Tree Inn on WuDing Lu, near the Park Avenue apartment, has a daytime use special for 99RMB 6 hours. The building is less than 6 months old and the Inn was very clean when I stayed there last May. There are a few other GreenTrees around the city but not sure if they offer the same deal.

Abzsafado
09-17-07, 09:37
Does any of you guys know a kind of no-tell motel in shanghai? Should be a location where I can meet a girl for 1-2 hours and pay for this time? This is becausei can not meet her at my home and she can not meet me at her home. :.) should be avaiable during daytime and costs nottoo high.

Any recommendations appreciated. Thanks and good luck!

I do believe that Motel 168 allows short time visitors. Look at the posts in the "proper" travel guides, eg Tripadvisor, there are always complaints about working girls in hotels. I love it, some uptight git posts about the noise from the brothel downstairs or the girls calling up offering massages and I think great mate thanks for the tip, I'll stay there.

Albert Punter
09-17-07, 10:07
Finally I saw an ad on taxi that catched my attention, at least for the pic. It advertises Hooters stores.
As I was stacked in the traffic, I took note of the addresses for those interested, as I believe these locations were mentioned but maybe complete addresses were not posted.

Hongqiao Store, Unit B1, Shanghai City Center, 100 Zunyi Rd., phone 62370080

Pudong Store, Esplanade, Super Brand Mall, Fucheng Rd, 186 West LuJiazui Rd., phone 50490199

Enjoy

WinteRain
09-17-07, 13:11
The fish bowl is not one wayHaha, just found out the other day that the Fishbowl in Thompson is also 2 way. No wonder I thought the girls were faking it terribly well looking straight at me when I stood infront of it. For a moment I thought they could see my silhouette or something and their eyes were only following that. But no, 1 of the girls finally revealed it.

John Euro
09-18-07, 00:08
Can some Shanghai expert give me more information on a Spa or Sauna nearby the Le Meridien Hotel on Nanjing Rd East .

See my question report : 9462 from 09.10.07

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=945&page=5&pp=15

I leave tomorrow, so quick answer will be appreciated.

Thanks,

J. E.

WinteRain
09-18-07, 06:35
Finally, I made a rather reluctant trip to Bo Duo Hui Suo. Reluctant because I had already spent on 2 sessions last weekend, and here a friend is leaving Shanghai and I feel obliged to bring him to have a memorable departure.

Bo Duo looks quite classy from the outside. Except once you enter, it actually becomes quite shady. Everywhere is very dimly lit, and the entries into the massage rooms are actually doors camouflaged as walls.

I brought 2 friends along, the 3 of us nearly turned our backs and left when we saw the selection of 10+ girls. It was quite bad. 4-7s at best. But being there already and all, and wanting to try the soapland + cosplay experience, they decided to make a choice anyway. I let them select their girls, while I picked last, number 57, Xiao Xue. 24 Years old, from Shen Yang. While she wasn't tall, she had a very sultry face and large firm tits. To be honest, she looked rather mature, but I wasn't looking for a new girlfriend, I wanted someone who could really give me a good time after a tiring day, so I decided to pick the better looking out of the more experienced lot.

Now, my review of this place is going to differ from the recent one by World Guy Sh. While me and 2 of my friends felt the line up was fugly, the 90 mins were actually very good.

Upon entering the room, I noticed the standard mechanized massage bed, and a bathroom which was equally large as the massage room. Inflatable float-matress thingie inside and a small stool.

We stripped, the girl proceeded to wash me all over, rubbing me with her tits and crotch (hairy). It was ok. After a rather thorough and quick wash, she washed the float and had me lie down on it. She started to gently rub her tits against the soles of my feet. The sensation felt really good as her hard nipples brushed past the very sensitive soles. This girl really knew her pleasure points. She went on with about 10-15mins of rubbing and sliding all over me from top to bottom. Inbetween rubs/slides, she’d stick out her tongue and perform a strong yet pleasurable cat bath. I thought it was quite impressive because I usually experience greater pleasure from soft delicate licks instead of harder licks.

She basically licked all over, tongue-fucked my ass and then gave me a very wet blowjob. At that point, I was already almost ready to cum, I quickly asked her if I could cum in her mouth, she hesitated awhile, and then said ok. (score! )

So after about 3-4 mins of continuous blowing, I blew my load in her mouth and carried a wide grin on my face. She spat it off, washed me up again and I went out to the massage room to wait for her while she washed up.

Earlier, I praised her for having good skills, and through that I said I would probably need to cum twice today. She gave her silent approval. (score! )

So I had a smoke, and she had one as well. After our cigarette, almost immediately she asked me to lie down. This was another surprise because the usual girl would stall for some time, try to make more small talk or give me a crappy massage. But this one had me lie down and immediately started licking my nipples and scrotum again. I didn’t think it was a rush job, but rather she was making every minute count.

She got the red rope tied up and mounted herself on it after a few tries. While the red rope novelty was very interesting and felt quite good, the back of my head (both) were a little scared of in the event the rope snapped.

After about 10-15mins of getting me hard again, she put on the condom and we started the usual deed. Cow girl, Mish, and finally came in doggie. During Mish, I had her (or at least she made me think it) cum and she was clinging onto me so tightly, but I was still going away at her.

After I came in Doggie, we went to wash up again, she offered me her number and then I was led out.

So, the break down:

Face: 6/10
Body: 7/10
BBBJCIM: 9/10
GFE: None, but I wasn’t there for GFE.
Soapy Body Massage: 8/10
Licking skills: 9/10
FJ: 8/10

Price: RM780
RTF: Only when I need a GOOD release, while the price is worth the service, it ain’t worth it if you’re looking for stunners.

Buo Duo Hui Suo, Beside Century Mart (Shi Ji Lian Hua) along Da Pu Road/Xie Tu Road.

My other 2 friends had a very satisfying experience of 2 shots each as well. One commented that his girl was exceptionally GFE and gentle, while the other one had very nice pink nipples.

Gsreyrey22
09-18-07, 07:40
Visiting Shanghai between 10/15 to 10/30.

Read the entire thread, took like 3 weeks, maybe a little more.

Anyone else is going in the area around that time?

Isg meet for a drink? On me.

Blacklisted
09-18-07, 08:32
John,

You spend two and a half hours in a sauna minimum.

What is the big deal about a 15 minute cab ride each way?

Why panic about finding a place around the corner when there is a well reported and known place so close to you?

That's a quick answer.

World Guy Sh
09-18-07, 10:40
John,

Try Joy Massage on Hankou Lu literally one block from your hotel. No idea of services but see the ad attached to a street lamp on corner of Hankou Lu and Yunan Lu. They do in and out services so 50/50 chance they'll do in call with a service you want.

Link here references it:

http://community.seattleu.edu/blogs/cst2006/archive/2006/10/14/1177.aspx

Telephone numbers on the sign. May have a 10 minute walk.

Best I can do from here. Mind you, spending a night like tonight in a sauna sounds appealing unless they have shut as well.

WGS

Seoul Man
09-18-07, 14:49
Hi!

Well, although I'm new to post, I have recently used this site as a wealthy source of info on my recent trip to Cambodia, Vietnam and Thailand. In particular, the info on Phnom Penh really made my trip. Unreal. Anyway, I'm heading to Shanghai in 5 days with my g/f, and am hoping to 'get away' to one (MAYBE 2) of these sauna's I keep reading about. So, I'm hoping someone can help a fella out a bit, as I've a few questions.

1. I'm staying at 5 Star Salvo Hotel, on Guangdong Road near The Bund. This place does have a sauna, and offers massage. Any clues if this place is offers the 'special service' as well?

2. I've read back through approx 12 pages of posts, and heres what I found to be preferred:

- Shanghai Hotel Sauna
- Ba Dong Sauna, Marriott Courtyard Hotel
- Buo Duo Sauna
- Si Yuan Sauna, inside the Merrilyn Hotel
- Thomsons

*Can anyone confirm or deny my observations?

3. I've read that average price seems to be 700-1000RMB - What exactly does this include? 2 hours service? BBBJ? HJ? Full Shag? I wouldn't mind some extras...some costume maybe, swinging harness, etc. Any idea?

Anyway, like I said. Any help will be GREATLY appreciated!

WinteRain
09-18-07, 15:21
3. I've read that average price seems to be 700-1000RMB - What exactly does this include? 2 hours service? BBBJ? HJ? Full Shag? I wouldn't mind some extras...some costume maybe, swinging harness, etc. Any idea?

Anyway, like I said. Any help will be GREATLY appreciated!Hey man,

If you've read my pretty thorough reports on Thompson and latest one on Buo Duo, you should find answers to your questions. But anyway just to make the long story short, its usually 90mins of foreplay and sex. BBBJ depends on the girl. You may get it, you may not.

Hard Romeo2000
09-18-07, 18:31
Has anyone a feedback on the Hengsheng Peninsula Intl Hotel in shanghai? I am going to stay there over night and it's my first time in China. Any good suggestion to an amatorial?

Romeo

UnderPSI
09-18-07, 22:27
Hey Guys,

Which of these 2 hotels are better in location and quality since both are very new?

Also anyone know if these have KTV and/or Sauna?

Thanks

Hobert Am
09-19-07, 00:57
I can't answer 1, but 2/3

Ji Yuan and Waves are the first rate places. Girl quality noticeably better on average in my opinion. Search for addresses, I forget. Waves is on Zhongshan Lu and Wuzhong lu but it's kinda hard to find. Waves is 600rmb before 8 pm or something.

Buo Duo is interesting because of costume, mechanical beds, and it's 90 minutes time. 780rmb iirc

This all includes everything you want, though some girls don't speak greek :) . You can opt to skip the shower if you know the girl and have already washed up beforehand, and just get to the deed for the whole time


1. I'm staying at 5 Star Salvo Hotel, on Guangdong Road near The Bund. This place does have a sauna, and offers massage. Any clues if this place is offers the 'special service' as well?

2. I've read back through approx 12 pages of posts, and heres what I found to be preferred:

- Shanghai Hotel Sauna
- Ba Dong Sauna, Marriott Courtyard Hotel
- Buo Duo Sauna
- Si Yuan Sauna, inside the Merrilyn Hotel
- Thomsons

3. I've read that average price seems to be 700-1000RMB - What exactly does this include? 2 hours service? BBBJ? HJ? Full Shag? I wouldn't mind some extras...some costume maybe, swinging harness, etc. Any idea?

Anyway, like I said. Any help will be GREATLY appreciated!

Hobert Am
09-19-07, 01:02
Haha, yeah I actually visited both and went to the Hangzhou Hooter's (On the main street leading to west lake, on south side (very noticeable sign)

Girls there are quite nice. I was throwing a party at Guandi so I invited a few of the HongQiao Hooter's girls to come. They are mostly college girls. And lo and behold 2 of them actually showed up! I don't know what happened to them at the club, I was spending the whole week collecting chicks to invite and didn't expect most all to actually show up at our table so my friends and I kinda lost track of most of them :lol:


Finally I saw an ad on taxi that catched my attention, at least for the pic. It advertises Hooters stores.

As I was stacked in the traffic, I took note of the addresses for those interested, as I believe these locations were mentioned but maybe complete addresses were not posted.

Hongqiao Store, Unit B1, Shanghai City Center, 100 Zunyi Rd., phone 62370080

Pudong Store, Esplanade, Super Brand Mall, Fucheng Rd, 186 West LuJiazui Rd., phone 50490199

Enjoy

Gualtier Malde
09-19-07, 05:57
2. I've read back through approx 12 pages of posts, and heres what I found to be preferred:

- Shanghai Hotel Sauna
- Ba Dong Sauna, Marriott Courtyard Hotel
- Buo Duo Sauna
- Si Yuan Sauna, inside the Merrilyn Hotel
- Thomsons

*Can anyone confirm or deny my observations?

3. I've read that average price seems to be 700-1000RMB - What exactly does this include? 2 hours service? BBBJ? HJ? Full Shag? I wouldn't mind some extras...some costume maybe, swinging harness, etc. Any idea?

Anyway, like I said. Any help will be GREATLY appreciated!

Shanghai Hotel is very reliable and of very high quality. If that is the only place you had a chance to visit, you should not be disappointed. But variety is the spice of life, so hopefully you'll get to try more than one and report on your own opinions!

At Shanghai Hotel you will pay 750RMB (650RMB if you *leave* before I believe 7pm). That is all inclusive, no tips required (except you'll be charged a nominal amount (like 30RMB) if you get an exfoliating massage from the guy in the sauna room.)

There are time limits, but they are quite liberal, and you'll probably find that you get all the time you need. In any case, I never think about time when at any of these places. Of course, in the non-sex part, you can spend as much time as you want. The only limits are the time spent with the girl.

Have fun, and write about your experiences, especially about what you find at the Salvo.

GM

Seoulman
09-19-07, 09:37
Hey man,

If you've read my pretty thorough reports on Thompson and latest one on Buo Duo, you should find answers to your questions. But anyway just to make the long story short, its usually 90mins of foreplay and sex. BBBJ depends on the girl. You may get it, you may not.


Cheers! Your posts were a source for lots of my info. What is the quality of girls like at Thomsons???

Seoulman
09-19-07, 09:40
I can't answer 1, but 2/3

Ji Yuan and Waves are the first rate places. Girl quality noticeably better on average in my opinion. Search for addresses, I forget. Waves is on Zhongshan Lu and Wuzhong lu but it's kinda hard to find. Waves is 600rmb before 8 pm or something.

Buo Duo is interesting because of costume, mechanical beds, and it's 90 minutes time. 780rmb iirc

This all includes everything you want, though some girls don't speak greek :) . You can opt to skip the shower if you know the girl and have already washed up beforehand, and just get to the deed for the whole time

Hmm....whats speak Greek?? And can I just as a taxi to get me to one of these places? I guess I'll need to get a map, and point and say???

Buo Duo is sounding like a safe bet....but what are the women like?? DO they have machines and costumes at Ji Yuan and Waves??

Seoulman
09-19-07, 09:43
Shanghai Hotel is very reliable and of very high quality. If that is the only place you had a chance to visit, you should not be disappointed. But variety is the spice of life, so hopefully you'll get to try more than one and report on your own opinions!

At Shanghai Hotel you will pay 750RMB (650RMB if you *leave* before I believe 7pm). That is all inclusive, no tips required (except you'll be charged a nominal amount (like 30RMB) if you get an exfoliating massage from the guy in the sauna room.)

There are time limits, but they are quite liberal, and you'll probably find that you get all the time you need. In any case, I never think about time when at any of these places. Of course, in the non-sex part, you can spend as much time as you want. The only limits are the time spent with the girl.

Have fun, and write about your experiences, especially about what you find at the Salvo.

GM

Hey - Cheers!!! I think I'm between Buo Dau, and Shanghai Hotel. Where exactly is Shanghai Hotel? In Pudong? Can I take 2 girls at once at these places??

BJK
09-19-07, 10:12
Hmm....whats speak Greek??

Engage in anal sex.

BJK

Seoulman
09-19-07, 11:39
Engage in anal sex.

BJK


Brilliant. Do they speak Greek at the Shanghai Hotel Sauna? I love Greece....lol....

Hallo
09-19-07, 15:14
Hey - Cheers!!! I think I'm between Buo Dau, and Shanghai Hotel. Where exactly is Shanghai Hotel? In Pudong? Can I take 2 girls at once at these places??

There is a two girl option, i tryed it once at the SH. Pricetag was 1100, but, to be honest, i didnt really get that much out of it. Its not twice as fun, so i would personally recommend going two times, try different girls.

I myself also read this tip but i just HAD to try it... so... i wouldnt be surprised if you also tryed. The thing is just to point out two girls in the line-up. I had a strange experience at this time. Once in the boot, the girls seemed very shy to each other so i swapped the to two other girl. Definately worth to hussle.

John Euro
09-19-07, 15:19
To WGSh and BL , thanks for the info

I don’t panic, or at least not yet, I have had no idea about the distance from Le Meridien to SH hotel, a 15 min cab ride is no problem in day time but I have the feeling that I will arrive mainly late evening at the hotel and some place far away will be closed when I can go, I don't want to miss my daily action but business first.

Keep you informed , thanks for quick answer,

J.E.

WinteRain
09-19-07, 15:50
Cheers! Your posts were a source for lots of my info. What is the quality of girls like at Thomsons???Thompson girls are 6-8s.. occasionally 9s (which I usually woo). Like my current #609. :p

#195 disappeared without a trace after I left the country for 3 weeks. :( Was still communicating her via sms and short calls until 1 week before I came back to Shanghai. She just disappeared. Oh well, next girl.

Senex
09-19-07, 20:05
Hi Guys,

I' am new and reading two days about Shanghai Hotel, but I can't find this hotel on the internet for booking (First Time in SH in November!).

Maybe it's also called 'City Hotel Shanghai' and located in 5-7 Shan Xi Road South Shanghai, 200020?

I've absolutely no idea which hotel to book. Im am travelling mostly alone, so I would like to be near all that pure life.

Plssss help.

Tnx in advance

S.

Lao Ma
09-19-07, 23:24
Seoulman, come on buddy. You are a senior member, you shouldn't ask questions like "where is Shanghai Hotel" ? It just proves you are too damn lazy to rtff, like some newbie. There are dozens of posts about the place, and many posts giving the address and location.

Cripes.

Seoulman
09-20-07, 00:17
Seoulman, come on buddy. You are a senior member, you shouldn't ask questions like "where is Shanghai Hotel" ? It just proves you are too damn lazy to rtff, like some newbie. There are dozens of posts about the place, and many posts giving the address and location.

Cripes.

Lighten up mate - you don't have to respond if you don't want to.

Phenyl
09-20-07, 02:36
Shanghai Hotel
505 Urumqi Road North, Shanghai, China, 200040
Tel. 62480088
Fax. 62481310

Vompat
09-20-07, 07:15
Did I manage to book a wrong hotel? Aim was to book that Shanghai hotel but now the address is different form below, this is what I book:

Shanghai in Shanghai, China
Hotel Address: 505 Wulumuqi Bei Road Shanghai P.r.c.

Please, help me out,

Thanking you in advance

Daredevil II
09-20-07, 08:08
The local LE will take it seriously. This happens a lot more in Hangzhou than Shanghai. I have heard from friends the LE will go to the location with the victim and retrieve most of the money. The thing you need is to get receipt. Tell them that you give them the money but you need to expense it using receipts. Once they give you a receipt, go to the cops and report them.



I think the local law enforcement just going to think of him as a stupid tourist who got ripped off.

If anything, with the intent to commit prostitution himself. The LE won't do anything to do him, and likewise, the establishment that ripped him off is not going to get charged either.

He really doesnt have much of anything to gain by pursuing this.

Chalk it up to learning experience, and don't do it again.

Gsreyrey22
09-20-07, 08:33
The local LE will take it seriously. This happens a lot more in Hangzhou than Shanghai. I have heard from friends the LE will go to the location with the victim and retrieve most of the money. The thing you need is to get receipt. Tell them that you give them the money but you need to expense it using receipts. Once they give you a receipt, go to the cops and report them. I don't think so.

When you get ripped off by going to KTV with touts, by false promise of sex/funtime/etc, it's not illegal. Anyone can promote anything, lying isn't against laws there.

Their menu in fine print usually states the overpriced of drinks they are charging you, per ounce usually.

And from experience, local LE isn't about upholding western's version of justice. Local LE will do as much as they must to upload the local laws, before personal favorites, bribes, etc just like rest of the world.

Fucking over some dumbass laowai that just got ripped off by local KTV/sauna is part of it. They accept it, they will tolerate it, and they probably get a cut from it.

It's not against the law to overcharge for drinks. Stupid foreigner dumb enough to pay for them isn't illegal.

Receipt doesnt mean anything unless they are trying to escape from taxes.

When I was there 7 years ago, I did it during Chinese new year, I fired off more illegal fireworks then rest of america tried this entire year, and I got off free by paying off the local LE.

My budda is bigger then your temple. Local saying. Basically meaning with enough money, you are above the law.

Daredevil II
09-20-07, 08:55
The Rooster,

Over in that area, the normal pricing should be 150RMB for ST and 400RMB for LT.


Walked for a good 20 minutes, and came across Huayou Lu. It's 1 block north of the indoor ski stadium, starts at Qixin Lu and heads east. And that's what you want to do, too! Between Qixin and the next road, Hualin Lu, on the north side of the street there's 5 BBSes there. Tucked away, quiet little street, and as I walked by and window-gazed all were filled with 4-5 girls each, ranging from 4s to actual 8s.

Now, I didn't stop to sample the wares. I'm going to try to play by the rules. But did talk to a couple of the mommies. Standard setup, quick quote of 250RMB for ST, 800RMB for LT. I'm sure those are Laowai prices, and with a bit of negotiating prices will drop right in line. All said they were open from 12:00 to 3:00, so good options.

Daredevil II
09-20-07, 09:13
Welcome to Shanghai fellow singaporean.

The singaporean gang here in shanghai has different hunting grounds. We shun Tongren lu.


Hello Everybody,

Long time reader first time poster. I had read through 100 pages of good reports from great seniors and I have finally moved here in Shanghai. I am from sunny Singapore and will be working here in Shanghai for 2 years. Hopefully I will be able to get some girls and write reports as contributions to the board.

I would like to ask a question: Besides using Private Mail, does any member here know how to get in touch with the Shanghai gang or the leaders of the gang: Ace Gallent or Blacklist? I have yet to be convinced to subscribe for a membership and so I do not have mail function. I understand that the Shanghai gang knows a lot about Shanghai, are cool guys and their favorite hideout is in Ton Ren Road?

Thank you,

Henry

Seoulman
09-20-07, 09:20
Shanghai Hotel
505 Urumqi Road North, Shanghai, China, 200040
Tel. 62480088
Fax. 62481310Cheers! Much appreciated!

Dabeast
09-20-07, 13:52
At the risk of getting absolutely blasted- I notice that the last few posts have just been a Q&A session for Seoulman.

As a newbie I have not asked a question and actually did RTFF but I have seen a lot of others getting flamed for asking questions?

Dabeast

Seoulman
09-20-07, 18:05
Thompson girls are 6-8s.. occasionally 9s (which I usually woo). Like my current #609. :p

#195 disappeared without a trace after I left the country for 3 weeks. :( Was still communicating her via sms and short calls until 1 week before I came back to Shanghai. She just disappeared. Oh well, next girl.


Hmmm....well my short-time gf here in Seoul is now getting cold feet about our soiree in Shanghai - turns out I may get to see more than just 1. Jeez....the choices.....real gfe vs chinese pay-as-u-go......i'm torn...

Bad Boy Billy
09-20-07, 23:50
At the risk of getting absolutely blasted- I notice that the last few posts have just been a Q&A session for Seoulman.

As a newbie I have not asked a question and actually did RTFF but I have seen a lot of others getting flamed for asking questions?

Dabeast

Mate you will never ever be flamed if you at least indicate you have done some prior research before asking a question.

We are all NEWBIES at some time in ALL destinations.

The wonderful part of this type of site is the invaluable information that regulars / old timers can hand onto NEWBIES - which is ALWAYS gladly done if the NEWBIE at least does some research first.

EXAMPLE 1 - guys I arrive in Shanghai for my first visit next week and I have read back through the board and see that 'such and such' is listed as being 'this and that' - is this correct or am I reading this wrong - You will be given plenty of accurate and useful advice to clarify your queries.

EXAMPLE 2 - guys I arrive in Shanghai for my first visit next week and want to know where I can pick up Miss China 2007 and fuck her for free, or which Massage place has all the 'runners-up' working there that I can fuck for under RMB100 - You will be told to RTFF.

World Guy Sh
09-21-07, 01:56
Visiting Shanghai between 10/15 to 10/30.

Read the entire thread, took like 3 weeks, maybe a little more.

Anyone else is going in the area around that time?

Isg meet for a drink? On me. Drinks don't have to be on you. But it's always nice when someone else pays

Yeah, I'll be around. Keep us posted of your plans. Midweek is better than w/e's at present. Social whirlwind. . ! ; ) If you are in town for a couple of weeks see if we can muster a KTV night.

WGS

Gualtier Malde
09-21-07, 04:49
Mate you will never ever be flamed if you at least indicate you have done some prior research before asking a question.

We are all NEWBIES at some time in ALL destinations.

The wonderful part of this type of site is the invaluable information that regulars / old timers can hand onto NEWBIES - which is ALWAYS gladly done if the NEWBIE at least does some research first.

EXAMPLE 1 - guys I arrive in Shanghai for my first visit next week and I have read back through the board and see that 'such and such' is listed as being 'this and that' - is this correct or am I reading this wrong - You will be given plenty of accurate and useful advice to clarify your queries.

EXAMPLE 2 - guys I arrive in Shanghai for my first visit next week and want to know where I can pick up Miss China 2007 and fuck her for free, or which Massage place has all the 'runners-up' working there that I can fuck for under RMB100 - You will be told to RTFF.

Bad Boy Billy, this is an excellent post, and these are great examples. To Dabeast, and all who worry about getting flamed on this forum: you'll note that the Shanghai thread gets a LOT of traffic. There is a lot to talk about in Shanghai, because it is constantly changing.

Asking a question after doing your own research on the thread (simply using search and browsing) assures that answers you receive will have the highest value for ALL readers, not just you. It provides an oppportunity to expand, refine or change information we have all contributed, rather than just endlessly repeating the same information.

I supposed we could ask Jackson to create a thread called "Thread for questions already asked and answered 1000 times" but I can guarantee that no one with answers would ever visit it... We're just trying to keep this thread from devolving into just that sort of place.

You might find it a little annoying to have to read some posts to find out about the place, but I for one can vouch for the huge value you will recognize once you arrive in Shanghai. Before I arrived on my first visit, I did read the entire thread. I could visualize some of the places before ever visiting them. It helped enormously. I did ask some newbie questions, but I also contributed heavily in return. It turns out to be fun to do, and has many rewards.

So do your research, then ask your questions without fear. Your questions will make it obvious if you have studied at all. Then return the favor with reviews!

Have fun!

GM

Bad Boy Billy
09-21-07, 06:51
Drinks don't have to be on you. But it's always nice when someone else pays

Yeah, I'll be around. Keep us posted of your plans. Midweek is better than w/e's at present. Social whirlwind. . ! ; ) If you are in town for a couple of weeks see if we can muster a KTV night.

WGS

Billy will be in Shanghai from Oct 9 to 13.

Staying at Ramada Plaza on Nanjing Rd.

Will be in Bourbon St, Guandi, Park 97, Bar Rouge, Attica, Manhattan and Judys on those nights. (Shanghai Hotel massage afternoons)

Anybody else in town who seriously wants to chase some w.h.o.r.e.s just drop me a PM.

Ascanio
09-21-07, 10:51
I just arrived today. I went to shanghai hotel sauna, I was thinking to do this since I did my air ticket.

As everybody have been saying :

Male assistent will help you getting naked and after you do the first shower.

A guy call me I didn't understand that he was going to scrub me... 70 yuan...( it was good for my body) but if you don't want skip him.

After i did the 2th shower the led me to the room with the girls...

Many girls 12-18 It was difficolt to choose.

I choose the best looking for my taste N. 80.

She did a good job. never had a tonghe bath in my life.

BBBJ she put the CD but my little friend after 2 minutes on action went dramatcly down. So she finally finish me with a good HJ.

Good experience for 730 yuan scrub included. I went in the happy time so i paid 650 special massage + 70 scrub.

I will be in Shanghai for a fews day I will do some others testing.

If any member of Shanghai gang's want to meet for a beer I will be to meet them.

Young italian boy.

Best Regards.

Electric Sheep
09-21-07, 15:15
Hello folks,

I have written about this wonderful place in another website before and thought my way of thanking the team here for all their info etc.

Location : Look at your Shg Map. Check Square 7E (towards the top right corner) There is one 5 star hotel initials "CP" I wont mention the name here.

This hotel is on a small intersection and just opposite it is a huge colourful signage which says "Massage" on it. Its preceded by Mandarin characters so i dont know what the local name is. Either way, you would be stupid not to spot it.

Procedure : Go up, get your quote. You will send to lockers. Change,wear robe, dump essentials into a locker etc

- Take shower and trust me, you should if you're going to be rimmed.
- Take or leave the 30Yuan Exfoliation.
- Beware that there may be other SE Asian men walking around naked, now apart from personal gratifications involved :) , some folks might find this peculiar.
- You will be taken further and asked to choose gal from 3-4.
- Then wait in a small foot massage room
- Taken to the massage room and thats where the fun begins - red lights, mirrors, anal rimming, BBBJ, FS. My girl (i forget her number) was a 9 - nice tight body, sleek, tall and a pair of 32 B's.
- The BBBJ has to be the highlight. She knew how to work it and do eye contact while at it.
- I came once followed by GFE experience and some "normal" massage.

Time : 1.5-2 hours.

Financial Charges - It cost me total 630 Yuan and u will get those chinese receipts if you need them ;)

Overall - Very clean place, not daunting since its front of the hotel. Quite professional and ppl working are quite friendly.

Next time I'll tell you about a place where a FS is around 400Y with BBBJ.

Cheers,

Deckard

Lex Moon
09-21-07, 17:56
For those interested, I found a good Service Apartment near Zhongshan Park. It is 100% girl-friendly bec some WGs and mamasans live there too. The rooms are comfortable and well-kept with a small kitchenette, microwave & internet access. It is 5mins to the subway, Starbuck, and a huge shopping centre. After staying there a few times, I can get a discount rate of 350rmb night by cash only. No credit cards. Anyone interested to get a room there can PM me. I will give you the contact of the pretty service manager. Pls don't touch her bec we must maintain a good relation with her to share this discount rate with all ISG members :).

Poisson1
09-21-07, 22:32
For those interested, I found a good Service Apartment near Zhongshan Park. It is 100% girl-friendly bec some WGs and mamasans live there too. The rooms are comfortable and well-kept with a small kitchenette, microwave & internet access. It is 5mins to the subway, Starbuck, and a huge shopping centre. After staying there a few times, I can get a discount rate of 350rmb night by cash only. No credit cards. Anyone interested to get a room there can PM me. I will give you the contact of the pretty service manager. Pls don't touch her bec we must maintain a good relation with her to share this discount rate with all ISG members :).Hi Lex Moon,

I can't PM you. Can you post the address, I'll book there without the discount. I just need a gfriendly service apartment well located.

Thanks,

Poisson

Beijing Fox
09-22-07, 11:12
Thanks for providing the number.

Was a bit lazy this afternoon and it was raining, so decided against a sauna. Called the number you provided and the same happened. First quoted 1000, but when I mentioned my friend and 700, she said it was no problem.

Kelly from Quingdao came after half an hour. Not really a stunner, but also not bad and very friendly. Spoke some English. No DFK here, but a wonderfull oral technique. After a couple of different positions, finished with a BBBJ.

She left after 45 minutes. Worth the money. If interested, call 13681662209.

BTW, When do Saunas usually open for business?


I stayed at the Ramada Plaza Pudong in early August. To thank-you for all the help, here's my Mongering Report:

Yuki Massage Outcall: ad in Shanghai Daily (provided free by my hotel at breakfast). 13681662209. Yuki answered, asked for special massage, she said 1000, I said "A friend said 700" she said OK. Sent Vicki. Young, large breasts, good partner. DFK, etc. Kinda like an early GFE where you're not quite in synch but she's willing to please and happy to be with you. She's Yuki's roommate. 700 + 100 taxi. Called back for Yuki, she was busy. Substitute was also a pleasent experience.

BaDong Sauna: 836 Dong Feng Lu or 860 Dong Feng, I forget. --doesn't matter too much, as there is a sauna at each address :) To get there, take the metro (line 2, green) to the ShiJi metro stop, then walk south on DongFeng Lu. Very easy to find. Up the escalators to the 4th floor. I think you may pass by a hotel lobby if you pick one set of escalators.

Typical sauna experience as related many times before. Presented with a line-up of 4 girls, 2 were sub-standard, 1 was nice looking, and another very pretty. I picked the two better ones. The nice looking one turned out to have great breasts and great attitude. The very pretty one kinda took charge, make lots of over-the-top fake moans, but wasn't into it (the breasted one was). It as 1500 for the 2, IIRC. Quite a bit, but much cheaper than in the states. Overall, I think the Merrilyn Hotel's sauna was a bit nicer (see below).

Si Yuan sauna, inside the Merrilyn Hotel, 818 Zhang Yang, corner of ZhangYang, Dong Feng, and Century (across from the Intercontinental Hotel in Pudong). You actually pass by this place to get to BaDong if you come out of the ShiJi metro stop (line 2, green).

Typical suana experience. 800RMB IIRC. Lineup of around 10, almost all above average. Picked the tallest one. When she took her clothes off, revealed an outstanding body--#17 is her, I think.

Small shops (BBS/FootMassage):

I was staying at the Ramada Plaza Pudong on Xin Jin Qiao. Nearby are plenty of BBSs. To find them:

- leave the hotel, and turn right onto Xin Jin Qiao (which turns into Biyun Lu if you go too far).

- take first right, onto Hong Feng Lu, stay on the right-hand side.

- Go past YangGao Lu--the big multilane road.

Now you're in China. There are two bars just after YangGao that had ladies in them (didn't sample), and at least 2 BBSs. During the day, they seem to cut hair sometimes. The ladies at the door don't seem very attractive, but I didn't look close.

- You can take the first left, where there are more BBSs on the right-hand side. Went during the day, and no one waved me in.

- You can take the first right, JinTai Lu, to find yet more. I picked the first one here, which is on the left-hand side of the street (so I crossed JinTai before turning right). It's one of the first stores on the left and there are a lot of ladies in a waiting area. 300RMB for one pop with a very hot young woman (I didn't negotiate). Lidy or Lily.
She couldn't have been 1.5m or 43Kg but she had gorgeous C-cup breasts. I was a little worried about fit, but she was properly sized. She did me in a room behind the shop--there are a set of those tall apartment communities there, and she walked me into what I think is her living/fucking quarters and did it on a bamboo bed.

Misc:

- Across the street is an english pub called The Flying Fox. Nice food, close.

- Caddy-corner (on Hong Feng/Biyun corner) is ShaNaNa Massage Center. Quite elaborate inside, and some great massage-but no sex for me.

-I also tried the Four Season Massage, just down Biyun. Most of the girls were all-business, but one, #19, was 'friendly'--for money. HJ 200 (a lot, I know. but at the time well worth it. She's young, but had the best technique I've run across). It was my favorite place for regular massage outcall: 50308406

- Elain Massage, further down the street from ShaNaNa and Four Seasons (still on Biyun). Girls here would give HJ for 300, but the rest of the massage was below par.

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Beijing Fox
09-22-07, 12:44
Hi Deckard,

This sounds quite interesting, but can you be a bit more specific about the location.

I can't find any 5-Star Hotel with the Initials CP. Also I haven't got the same map as you, so 7E doesn't help me much either.

Thanks


Hello folks,

I have written about this wonderful place in another website before and thought my way of thanking the team here for all their info etc.

Location : Look at your Shg Map. Check Square 7E (towards the top right corner) There is one 5 star hotel initials "CP" I wont mention the name here.

This hotel is on a small intersection and just opposite it is a huge colourful signage which says "Massage" on it. Its preceded by Mandarin characters so i dont know what the local name is. Either way, you would be stupid not to spot it.

Procedure : Go up, get your quote. You will send to lockers. Change,wear robe, dump essentials into a locker etc

- Take shower and trust me, you should if you're going to be rimmed.
- Take or leave the 30Yuan Exfoliation.
- Beware that there may be other SE Asian men walking around naked, now apart from personal gratifications involved :) , some folks might find this peculiar.
- You will be taken further and asked to choose gal from 3-4.
- Then wait in a small foot massage room
- Taken to the massage room and thats where the fun begins - red lights, mirrors, anal rimming, BBBJ, FS. My girl (i forget her number) was a 9 - nice tight body, sleek, tall and a pair of 32 B's.
- The BBBJ has to be the highlight. She knew how to work it and do eye contact while at it.
- I came once followed by GFE experience and some "normal" massage.

Time : 1.5-2 hours.

Financial Charges - It cost me total 630 Yuan and u will get those chinese receipts if you need them ;)

Overall - Very clean place, not daunting since its front of the hotel. Quite professional and ppl working are quite friendly.

Next time I'll tell you about a place where a FS is around 400Y with BBBJ.

Cheers,

Deckard

Logos
09-22-07, 13:03
Great info Lex moon, it looks like what I'm looking for.

For those who enquired earlier here's the link to the shanghai hotel (courtesy of asiarooms)

http://www.asiarooms.com/china/shanghai/shanghai.html

The sauna looks great but is it a good place to stay as well ?

I'll be in Sanghai (first time for about 4 nights in mid Otober. If anybody wants to hook up let me know. I'll be coming from cambodia so if any of you mongers needs to restock on Vit V let me know, I can bring some supplies (it costs aboutn $2.5 per 4 pills in phnom penh).

BeEasy
09-22-07, 21:05
Found this single hidden BBS just by chance. Was offered FS for RMB 200. My counteroffer of 150 was immediately accepted. Could have got it for less, I guess. I am speaking decent Mandarin though, which usually helps to keep the balls low.

To go there, take exit #5 of Longyang Lu metro station. On Baiyang Lu turn right (north), cross the large Longyang Lu. Take the first left, called Dujuan Lu (cuckoo road. What a nice name). You will see the shop after about 50 meters on the right hand side. The girls are no stunners, this is a hidden shop, until now (grin), probably mostly serving locals. However, service was decent and in a friendly, non-hurried manner.

Enjoy, BeEasy

P.S. If you walk down Dujuan Lu further, you will see a large massage place on the right hand side. I remember a post in this forum reviewing this as a decent FS place. However, haven't tried that one yet.

World Guy Sh
09-23-07, 01:54
Got the following from my 'contact' at Buo Dao late last night (Saturday).

"Sunday, do not go Xietu lu. Because have police go there. We may go hotel make"

which I take to mean someone hasn't been paying their dues. Anyone heard anything else? I may not be keen on the place but am not passing on misinformation about it. Not sure if there is more to the message, but it hasn't arrived.

Will update if I get anything else but you may all want to try somewhere else for a few days. Be interested to know if they went on round the corner to other places.

Please update as you hear.

WGS

Shanghai2005
09-23-07, 04:54
This is my first report on this Forum (so please pardon my writing skills) as I feel obliged to report here after having been a frequent visitor to this forum for some time. Have been in Shanghai for a few years but didn't know about this Forum till a few months back. Am used to taking long walks in the evenings and pretty much know all the BBS in the vicinity though have tried only 2 so far. The 1st one I tried was in Eshan Lu in April this year in a BBS which is a little off the road. Based on other reports in this forum I guess its in the same row where the Eshan Lu factory was reported to have existed some time back. There are 4 BBS in this row 2 adjacent to each other and another two a little fiurther down with Neon lights. The quality of the girls was quite good 6-9 by my standards though some seemed to have an attitude. Was quoted 300 for FS and did not try to negotiate. They take you to another closed shop adjacent where inside there are small comfortable enough but not that clean (Bedsheets are not changed after use) but have a separate bathroom to wash after the deed. I don't know much Chinese even after having been here for quite some time so no idea where the girl was from. The girl performed CBJ and seemed quite good at it (however I am new at mongering and not much experience so whatever I mention as good might not be same for other experienced members here) followed by FS in different positions. Felt good as it was my first visit to a BBS. Have been to massage places earlier on Laoshan Lu but they don't offer FS and extras included HJ etc. I went there again last month and tried to negotiate after I read on the forum Travelin Guy's report on having negotiated for 250 but it didn't work even after walking out from 3 of these BBS. In one an enthusiastic girl agreed for BBJ for 200 but not FS. Would have gone with her but she was a 6 and seemed a bit older closer to 30) so gave up on the option. The second time was also in April when walking through Eshan Lu I saw a young girl of around 17-18 in a BBS on Eshan Lu agaib but in the stretch between Pudong Nan Lu and Nanquan Lu. She was more younger and inexperienced with a very tight pussy seemed to be new to this business. Didn't agree for BJ but FS was enjoyable and the damage was only 200. The mamasan wanted 300 but agreed when I started walking without budhing from my price. The place was a little shabby with a small bed in a narrow space in the back of the BBS. There was another smaller area just adjacent and if there had been another customer I would have walked away (can't do the deed if there is action going on just beside you beyond a cardboard thin partition. Just kills the fun) This place has since closed down. In fact there have been lot of BBS closed down recently. Till beginning of 2006 Eshan Lu was a haven swarming with several BBS and then in the middle of 2006 there seemed to be some kind of Crackdown and most places closed levaing only a couple of BBS and then again since middle of this year some of these have opened or new ones sprung up but still not like last year. Seems to be some kind of consolidation also. The 4 BBS I mentioned in Eshan Lu seems to have a lot more girls as the girls from the smaller places seemed to have moved there.

Anyways I will keep reporting more on this forum. Before signing off a question that I have wanted to ask for a long time. Are there any Sauna's offering FS where the attendants leave you to yourself if you want. The though of another guy waiting with a towel to scrub you just seems strange and I would feel homopohobic. I haven't tried the saunas so far because of this and would like to try one if they have an option of choosing a girl straightway and then going to a private massage room with a bath.

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BeEasy
09-23-07, 07:22
Here is another strip of about 5 BBS not too far from Longyang Lu metro station (line 2). Walking distance is about 15 minutes, a bit further than the BBS in Dujuan Lu. See my previous report. You might like to take a cab.

Exit Longyang Lu metro station at exit #5. Walk up Baiyang Lu (白杨路) toward Century Park. Cross the broad Longyang Lu (龙阳路). Take the second left, its name is Yinghua Lu (樱花路). The action is all on the right side of the road between Baiyang Lu and Yulan Lu (玉兰路). However, I haven't tried any of these. But the ladies are waving at me each time I am walking by, so it looks like Caucasians are welcome. Furthermore, I have never seen any westerners around there. Fresh mongering grounds. (o;

Enjoy and let us know how it was,

BeEasy

BTW: At the entrance of Yinghua Lu from Baiyang Lu there is a blind people's massage place (also advertised in large English letters). I tried this place once and the massage was decent.

Rob Woodrow
09-23-07, 07:33
I've lived in China a little over 2. 5 years, but not in Shanghai, and I'the only been there a few times on very short trips. After RTFF, I realized I had to give this sauna a visit, so I made a run over there while in town on business this weekend.

I liked the fact that the girls are in a room, and not behind a one-way glass. Different people have different opinions on this, but for me, I'the much rather pick one that makes eye contact and smiles. I figure the ones that won't look at me aren't that into foreigners, so I pass on their services. I took #53, I thought she was very cute, YMMV. 34Bish boobs, and a noticeable ass, not too big though. If you're tired of flat-assed Chinese girls, give this one a whirl before it turns to cellulite. I'm not tired of flat asses yet, but variety is the spice of life, and yes I'm probably preaching to the choir on that one.

Anyway, after the prelims we went back to the room, where I finally got to see the infamous red rope treatment. It was interesting, but not my bag really--because of the angle, I'm anatomically incompatible I think. Still, the view was nice.

To summarize, I had #53, name is Ming Ming or Mian Mian or some repeating syllable. I'm horrible with Chinese names. Claimed to be 20, which I believed, as my guess was 21. From Hubei. Nice nipples, ample posterior for a Chinese, tight in the right place, nice BBBJ, no problems with white guys.

BeEasy
09-23-07, 07:43
Does anyone have some pointers to establishments serving women? Worldwide, this is a strongly growing industry and there should be a fair share of it in Shanghai.

Thanks,

BeEasy

Rob Woodrow
09-23-07, 08:08
Spent my first night on TongRen Lu this past Saturday.

Went to Malone's first. Wasn't crazy about the girl selection there, although it was early, not yet 10:00. One beer, then made a call to move on rather than wait, since the bad cover band was annoying me.

Next stop was Woodstock, which is great if you're a rock or classic rock fan. They have a big screen playing videos and live bits from as far back as CCR, the Doors, and Hendrix, up through the Red Hot Chili Peppers and beyond. The girl selection was weak, though. The only one I liked was a waitress, and I wasn't in the mood to try to figure out her availability, nor wait until 5am for her to get off work. One beer, moved on.

Kept walking, couldn't figure out where to try next. Got to the end of the street, and a couple of cuties waved me inside Deja Vu. Once inside, I realized all the cuties were outside. I ordered a beer and had a girl ask if she could sit next to me. Ugh. I told her no. "Weisheme? " I wasn't going to tell her she was ugly, so I just said "Bu yao. " Her and her friend continued to ask me questions in Chinese, some I understood and some I didn't. I ignored them. They went back to their table by the door. I stared at my beer for about a minute, then realized it wasn't worth the time nor the calories nor the potential contribution to whiskey dick to sit there and drink it. I got up, gave my beer to the two ugly broads, and walked out.

After hearing about Manhattan, I figured it was a place to check out. Sat for a while, didn't see anything I liked, so I kept nursing my beer. Had an average-at-best Chinese girl ask me if we could make friends, I passed. Finally a hot little Chinese number walked in with a couple of her friends. Scantily dressed, young, nice tattoo on her back. I was trying to make some eye contact. Finally got some, but literally by the time I turned around and grabbed my beer to move over to her, some other dude was chatting her up. Can't blame him, she was the best option in the place. I snoozed, I losed--err, lost. I was going to try another venue and come back to see if Manhattan picked up (11:30 or so at this point). Then I noticed a little Filipina number in the corner dancing her ass off. Watching her booty shake got me stirring, especially with her showing some whale tail out the top of her pants. She wasn't the most beautiful girl in the bar, but her sex appeal was high. I went over and started dancing with her. I should have RTFF a bit better to prepare me for the Shanghai Filipina Sticker Shock, which now seems more in-line since I read a little today. In retrospect I should have passed and tried to find a Chinese girl, since I'm going to Angeles next week. But like I said, the little head had taken over the thinking, so off we went. Can't complain about the service though, nice DFK, BBBJ (she even brought flavored lube), tight, nice cowgirl and reverse cowgirl riding.

Fun time, learned a bit about the Shanghai scene, and learned a new lesson in general: China is for screwing Chinese girls, and save the Filipinas for the Philippines. Seems like a no-brainer, eh?

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BeEasy
09-23-07, 10:24
Hi Beijing Fox,

This is the Crowne Plaza Pudong, 1000 Yanggao Lu (杨高路), in the north-west of Pudong.

BeEasy


Hi Deckard,

This sounds quite interesting, but can you be a bit more specific about the location.

I can't find any 5-Star Hotel with the Initials CP. Also I haven't got the same map as you, so 7E doesn't help me much either.

Thanks

BeEasy
09-23-07, 13:28
Correction: The sauna is on the left side if you go down further Dujuan Lu. The name of the place is Longhao Sauna. The name is only displayed in Chinese characters. However, you will see a huge neon with "Massage" in English, Korean, and Japanese. Here is the related ISG post:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=495426&postcount=6561

So, all in all, in combination with the BBS on Dujuan Lu and the 5 other BBSs on Yinghua Lu, which is parallel to Dujuan Lu, there are some spots to explore in this area.

Have fun,

BeEasy


Found this single hidden BBS just by chance. Was offered FS for RMB 200. My counteroffer of 150 was immediately accepted. Could have got it for less, I guess. I am speaking decent Mandarin though, which usually helps to keep the balls low.

To go there, take exit #5 of Longyang Lu metro station. On Baiyang Lu turn right (north), cross the large Longyang Lu. Take the first left, called Dujuan Lu (cuckoo road. What a nice name). You will see the shop after about 50 meters on the right hand side. The girls are no stunners, this is a hidden shop, until now (grin), probably mostly serving locals. However, service was decent and in a friendly, non-hurried manner.

Enjoy,

BeEasy

P.S. If you walk down Dujuan Lu further, you will see a large massage place on the right hand side. I remember a post in this forum reviewing this as a decent FS place. However, haven't tried that one yet.

Khepher
09-23-07, 14:09
Greetings all. I will be relocating to shanghai shortly. Where can I find some hot freebies?

Just kidding! No flames please. !

I think I just read through about 400 pages of posts, must've taken 2 weeks. Whew! Lots of good info in there. I am very excited about my move, coming from singapore (singa-bore). Will be staying at shanghai center, which sounds like a perfect location.

Now I just need to start learning mandarin! *sigh*

So here is a very sincere thanks to all those members who have so generously posted helpful information on this board.

Cheers,

Khepher

Shanghaislut
09-23-07, 16:01
Tonight I scoped out 3 BBS's in the usual Kangding Lu (KDL) Shaanxi Bei Lu area. They all seem to have a new policy of 200rmb for Locals and 300rmb for Foreigners. There is no bargaining. Threatening to leave doesn't work. Actually walking out doesn't work either. 3 places, same thing. They would rather not have your business than let you pay 200rmb. Weird isn't it? Last week, at a different BBS, I got away with paying 200rmb because I said I was from Xinjiang Province (sometimes I can pass for a Xinjiangren). I know I can always go back there and get it for 200rmb, but that place only has 3 working girls.

By the way, I speak fluent Chinese. Doesn't help.

What's going on here? Is it just because too many guys are willing to pay 300? Stop ruining it for the rest of us bargain hunters!

Lex Moon
09-24-07, 01:39
Hi Lex Moon,

I can't PM you. Can you post the address, I'll book there without the discount. I just need a gfriendly service apartment well located.
Thanks,
Poisson

Hi Poisson,
Try to get your ISG membership. The savings and help you can get from fellow members are worth the subscription.
I need to PM you the tel number to get the special price.

BTW, for those flying into Pudong, the airport bus stops just beside this apartment. I think the bus ride cost about 20rmb.

Hobert Am
09-24-07, 06:36
I think most service apartments don't give a rat's arse. You are, after all, renting out an apartment :) I stayed at a nice one on Zun yi lu and Yan an xi lu, south of yan an xi lu called "La Residence". This location is pretty much city center if you're jetting around all parts of town. Depending on where in ZhongShan park you are you may be a good 30 minutes from good parts of town. Downside is because it's city center, getting taxis at rush hour is near impossible. Starts at 380 for one room studio apartment I think. I brought back questionable looking guests day and night.


Hi Lex Moon,

I can't PM you. Can you post the address, I'll book there without the discount. I just need a gfriendly service apartment well located.

Thanks,

Poisson

Vompat
09-24-07, 06:38
Dear GM,

Thanks a lot, this forum is awesome


Did I manage to book a wrong hotel? Aim was to book that Shanghai hotel but now the address is different form below, this is what I book:

Shanghai in Shanghai, China
Hotel Address: 505 Wulumuqi Bei Road Shanghai P.r.c.

Please, help me out,

Thanking you in advanceVompat, no worries, you got the right one.

GM

China Miguel
09-24-07, 09:21
on a recent trip to shanghai, i stayed at the imagine hotel (yimei tingyuan jiudian) in the minhang area near the hongqiao airport.

late one night, i decided to try one of the local massage girls listed on a popular bbs in shanghai. she showed up, very much a stunner, and promptly told me it would be 1500 rmb. i told her i was not interested and she left.

feeling a little stranded, and it being so late at night, i called the in-house massage service. the woman there answered, saying the massage was 580rmb, full-service. i agreed, and two minutes later a very pretty girl of 21 was in front of me, about 5' tall, and must have weighed no more than 80 pounds.

she was very shy, and she told me she just came from northeast china, and is was only her second day on-the-job. i asked her what she would like to drink, and she noticed i was drinking beer, so she said she would join me in drinking beer -- much to my delight.

we spent about the next half hour just having fun together, she would sit on my lap and give me brush kisses every once in a while. we were warming up to each other quickly. then....

mamasan calls, says time is running short. i quickly negotiate a 800 rmb all-nighter with this lovely, she ran the money downstairs, and five minutes later was in my room again, peeling off her clothes to take a shower.

she came out of the shower incredibly shy. i gave her one of my oversized t-shirts to wear around the room, and she was very happy with that. we drank a little more beer, then we started to get down to business.

i love a good head and eye massage, so i asked her to do that, which she did, but not real well (not sure i would expect her to be able to do this).

i then started working the t-shirt up and started nibbling on her sweet nips, which were small, but still responsive.

fingers start heading south, seeking out the g-spot. finding the source of her pleasure indeed opened a pandora's box of delights for me. her pussy was wet, she was breathing and moaning, and all i could think of was sinking my pink tor**** inside her, which is what i did.

she was tight and wet, her thin arms around me holding just right. i could see my thick cock sliding in and out of her thin frame, making me lose my senses. when i could stand it no more, i asked her if i could come inside her pussy. she said yes, so i pumped all i could into her before collapsing in a heap of flesh next to her (yes, i did her bb).

we washed thoroughly, then got back in bed. in 5 minutes she was asleep. she told me earlier she could never sleep in the same room as a man. i woke her up by rubbing her clit again in the middle of the early morning. she responded and it was another repeat performance. she stayed until a little after 7am, then left.

no bj, no anal, just pure sex with a healthy, clean and shy girl. i asked her to come back the next evening, but she said i would have to call her. i fell asleep early, so i did not see her again (much to my disappointment).

i also had camera but did not take pictures. sorry guys!

name: na na
age: 21
location: imagine hotel in-house massage, minhang district, shanghai
face: 6-7/10 (very pretty face and facial gestures)
body: 6-7/10 (very skinny but light as a feather)
gfe: 7/10 (not a good or experienced kisser, but still affectionate)
fs: 7/10 (it was straight sex, nothing else)
bj: n/a
damage: 800 rmb for all night

if you like them skinny and shy, this one might be for you. she is extremely easy-going once she opens up. she does not speak any english at all, so you must speak chinese to her.

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Bounce Around
09-24-07, 10:39
Hello all,

Thanks for all the good info and RTFF does really help. My second trip to china in august, cities visited Shanghai, Ningbo, Shenzhen. First mongering trip, not apprehensive about mongering perse was pretty ok with it back when i lived in O.C. basically the AMP type. This time wanted to do the KTV and BBS thing was apprehensive about that directions wise. Stayed at the Salvo hotel near Nanjing Road, ok hotel, for staying so close to the tourist attractions.. walked a lot in the streets between the hotel and the pedestrian shopping complex. Saw a lot of massage places and mini KTV type places, the mini KTVs seemed like a rip off since all the touts lead you to them (more on that later) didn't find any BBSs like the ones described, though a lot of regular barbershops and massage places. Hotel was totally GF though.

Lao Ma
09-24-07, 10:39
there's 11 shops that I counted within a 2 block area. Like a box of chocolates, you don't know what you are going to get, but every box has some good ones. I'm not Mr. Rich guy, but to be frank, 300 rmb for a suck and fuck is a damn good deal in my book, and I'm not upset if that's the case. It's 400 at the pub I think. Deals can be had, I was in a place on Saturday in the afternoon - slow time I guess - and I had 3 girls for 500, all 3 gave bbj's and 2 boned me. As far as quality, the shops right on Kanding Lu seem to me to have the best girls; in particular, the farthest west shop, with the fancy door with etched glass that you step down into. There's some 8's in there.

Ace Gallant
09-24-07, 11:00
there's 11 shops that I counted within a 2 block area. Like a box of chocolates, you don't know what you are going to get, but every box has some good ones. I'm not Mr. Rich guy, but to be frank, 300 rmb for a suck and fuck is a damn good deal in my book, and I'm not upset if that's the case. It's 400 at the pub I think. Deals can be had, I was in a place on Saturday in the afternoon - slow time I guess - and I had 3 girls for 500, all 3 gave bbj's and 2 boned me. As far as quality, the shops right on Kanding Lu seem to me to have the best girls; in particular, the farthest west shop, with the fancy door with etched glass that you step down into. There's some 8's in there.

Gentlemen,

Enjoy them while you can. The Bosses of those BBSs are told to shutdown and ship out by End December or they will be forced to go. This is in sync with a clean up movements by the Central Government due for the 2008 Olympics.

Enjoy!
AG

Bounce Around
09-24-07, 11:19
So, got to the Salvo Hotel, put up the bags, grabbed a bit to eat and checked out the massge/SPA area, the usual eager happy smiles when I walk in. They seemed to be pushing me for a 5XX RMB massage, saying very good, you like. Seemed a bit steep to me, I asked if they could send girl to my room. They said no problem. I had earlier asked the bell boy in my room if there is any good massage place here, since after the plane trip from DXB I did want to relax. He said yes I know a place, hotel is too expensive. So I thought he would hook me up. Walked me a few blocks towards nanjing road (on the way down there I did see a small sign on the street for massage about half a block from the hotel, didn't check it out though, before a drinks shop, some hardware type stores near by, street entrance is a flight of narrow stairs to the first floor) anyway get to this semi large shopping center about a block short of the pedestrian mall, takes me in a few flights up by escalator to a place on the top floor, opposite a resturaunt I think. Seemed like a totally legit place as soon as I walked in. I'll remember the name of the place if I can it was (I think) 'Dr. Xsomethingx' anyways good Chinese massage for about 160RMB, never offered anything more, didn't broach it, woman was a 3-4, but good hands.

Afterwards walked about a bit in the pedestrian mall, the usual approach by touts. Thanks to RTFF I know how to act. Except this one tout was a girl I would say an 8. Started off by asking if I wanted T-shirts, watches, then said massage, bar girls. I was tempted to ask her how much for her, but didn't. Shame on me! All the RTFF got jumbled up because I thought I read somewhere that the girl touts are cool, but didn't take the chance. Headed back to the hotel, on the way took some detours down the alleys trying to find some BBS type place.

There was this bar with a alot of the girls dressed in white, dotted dresses, right next to it was a massage place with two/three girls standing outside beckoning furiously, the bar girl beckoned me as well. Walked in to the bar, narrow long place, two guys (expats) drinking beer at the bar, was walked up the stairs to the KTV rooms, here I smelled trouble, said simply 'I want girl, no want to buy drinks' in my best english for China! she said, 'but its custom in China you buy lady drinks, lady be friendly'. I said 'ok, maybe I come back later' practically pushed my way out with her tugging at me. Didn't feel like checking the massage place out, as by now I was ready to gratify myself!

Went back to the hotel, stopped off and bought some Santory whisky at a drinks shop (first time trying, not bad) went to the hotel, did some net search and RTFF again, then broke down and called Shanghai lilly massage, you can do a google search.

I asked for a girl with nice breasts, the guy said 'yes, yes' took a shower, waited, about 20 mins later the girl shoes up. I'the say about a 6 from the face, body was better, I decided to keep. She came in smiled couldn't speak a lick of english, stripped, went to wash up, came back, I was in bed she climbed in and two seconds of rubbing my chest hair she made a be-line for BBBJ, very good, wanted to cover me and mount, I stopped her, made her lay down, she had nice dark nipples, I spent my time playing with them kissing her body, making her squirm a little, after a while her hands were covering me up while I was on top, we started off miss, then doggy, then miss again where she apparently came, I don't mean to be a cassanova, but I can tell, I kept going for a while, but with the cover I couldn't muster it up, she had to stop me 'cause it was too much for her, again I don't want to sound concieted or exaggerating, she uncovered and began the BBBJ again, I was having fun, but felt a bit more adventurous so went for 69, did some ATM that drove her up the wall, eventually exploded CIM. ,

She went to clean up, came back and as I was standing up after she cleaned me, she said to turn over and began to give me a bit of a massage was ok. All in all for about 800 not a bad deal. I know I paid a bit much from ST, but I justified it as decent for room service, and good enthusiasm and about on par with say a spa service. From my RTFF it seemed that apart from the BBS action, this is about average for ST. Again, though she wasn't an ideal looker, the enthusiasm and skills were up there. Hell she even laughed, pointed at me gave me a vigourous thumbs up/ok sign when she was getting dressed, which I will admit was a boost to the ego. I would recommend this as good room service, but would be interested to hear comments from the more experienced.

PS. If someone has used the service, and knows this girl, very thin, short ok boobs, darker complexion, curly long hair, I don't know her name or number, 'cause I would like to ask for her again. Though don't mind trying another one when I am in town next, possibly OCT 17.comments appreciated.

Next time I will remember to take pictures as well!

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Albert Punter
09-24-07, 11:31
I was a great supporter of the Pub.
Like many others did, on many occasions I have posted enthusiastic reports. That venue was my staple.
And now ... ?
They lost me as a customer.

A few nights ago, as I needed a quick fix after an unsuccessful evening with a potential freebie, I popped in.
I was greeted by a girl, the most attractive at that time, who offered usual beer and sat at my side.
She then started to caress me and touch me, asking to move to other room.
I offered to bring her to my place. She accepted and said price was 600. That was OK to me and I said let's go.
She replied I had to pay immediately, for service and for beer (!!!), before leaving.

What ? Never did that.
I asked to talk to boss who apparently was out.
Discussion went on a few minutes.
As I couldn't manage to go with the girl without paying, I stepped out and I believe they won't see me anymore.

Don't know what to say.
Maybe we have driven so much business to them that they feel strong and dictate rules now.

Bounce Around
09-24-07, 11:32
Gentlemen,

Enjoy them while you can. The Bosses of those BBSs are told to shutdown and ship out by End December or they will be forced to go. This is in sync with a clean up movements by the Central Government due for the 2008 Olympics.

Enjoy!

AGI will continue reporting on my first mongering trip, with days two and three in shanghai and then Ningbo (teaser: best time there! ) and shenzhen. But wanted to comment that wouldn't olympics be a boon to this industry, I am sure they want to clean up the back alleys but you gotta wonder a lot of pimps and hos are going to be looking forward to these events. Price hikes and room services do you think? KTVs? Also, cuorious, possibly should post in the Guanghzhou thread, but do you guys see price hikes in times of events like canton fair, not attending myself but maybe in Shanghai and Shenzhen around that time. OCT 17-25

Eagle888
09-25-07, 12:44
Couple of places to report on.

1. There's a place opposite the SH Hotel. You need to walk through kind of a gate, and then there is this small squarish building with a sliding glass door. They appear to have a soapland kind of thingy. You pick the gals through a one-way glass. I was there around 5pm, and I think some of the gals had just woken up from a nap. The one I picked wasn't particularly enthusiastic. Wouldn't go into all the details, except to say that I am not that eager to try it again.

This same place has a foot massage as well which is actually a really professional foot massage, not those that are merely teasing your foot. And it has a happy ending;.). Not cheap though, it was about 500+RMB. This one I will try again, if only they make it cheaper.

2. Another place offering massage with HJ can be located near the end of Shaanxi South Road. The place is not posh, in fact a little un-posh. But you can get a decent massage with a HJ at the end. Needless to say, if you want a real massage, you should just go to a regular massage place. However, for a place with HJ, I thought this was fairly decent. But I think it also depends on who you get. Damage is around 300RMB for 1. 5 hours. Some may allow roaming as well.

3. Speaking of decent massage, have you guys been to places where it's supposed to be good decent massage, except that they will use their fingernails to tease your buttocks and sometimes even your balls? What's that all about? It's such a bloody teaser, and in the end you'll have to go back for self-service. I'm not sure I've been had, but I swear I tried all sorts of ways to get them to go beyond teasing, but they wouldn't, saying they will be fired.

Now if someone can just share more places that offer massage with HJ, it will be just great. There appears to be many soapland, red-rope land, etc. But a massage-with-HJ place seemed so hard to find. I'm not talking about BBS though. I know of those, but I'm looking for a much more comfortable, decent, clean kind of outfit.

That's it for today.

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Albert Punter
09-25-07, 14:09
Disappointment at the Pub drove me to try the most mentioned sauna in this thread.
It was late and I was undecided on what to do: wandering on search for some BBS or targeting a sure venue ?
As Pub is not far from Shanghai Hotel and in my survival kit of business cards I had the one from Equatorial Hotel (which is at the corner with other Hotel), I grabbed a taxi and went there.

Got into hotel lobby, took elevator to 2nd floor and I was there: only sauna at that floor so you cannot miss it. Procedure/service is as described plenty of times too.
I didn't tell a word and got what I wanted. So, it is not necessary at all to manage language. Only words I had to say were a couple of "no, thanks" when scrub and pedicure services were offered.

Girls selection was excellent, lot of hotties available.
As it took a couple of minutes to evaluate them in detail, in the meantime another bunch of girls joined, and I selected from new arrivals.
Also, I liked very much you are in same room with girls, so you have better feeling of them and eye contact may give some indication on which girl to chose. They made some comments about me, but I couldn’t understand.

My choice was #67, Wen Lu, 23 yo from ... (forgot).
Little English and maybe not best technique, but very very cute. Probably one of best looking girl I had in China. Two shots and GFE: really what I needed that night.

On the way out I grabbed a business card which I post for your use.

WinteRain
09-25-07, 16:13
Girls selection was excellent, lot of hotties available.

As it took a couple of minutes to evaluate them in detail, in the meantime another bunch of girls joined, and I selected from new arrivals.

Also, I liked very much you are in same room with girls, so you have better feeling of them and eye contact may give some indication on which girl to chose. They made some comments about me, but I couldn’t understand.

My choice was #67, Wen Lu, 23 yo from ... (forgot).

Little English and maybe not best technique, but very very cute. Probably one of best looking girl I had in China. Two shots and GFE: really what I needed that night.
Don't mind me asking, what time did you go, and how occupied was the place?

Andy Cheng
09-25-07, 17:02
I have tried this on several occasion and it has almost always worked. Walk into any Massage Center like the one on intersection of Zhaojiabang lu and Shaanxi Nan Lu.

At such places, usually for RMB100 more you can get a decent BJ and also the girls are more than willing to give away their mobile numbers too.

Once you have the number, exchange a few sms and phone calls. usually these girls are free in the morning and hence they would like to meet up sometime in the afternoon for lunch etc.

They expect you to buy a few pieces of clothes or perfume(usually RMB 400 to 500) and then you can have them to come over to your apartment whenever they are free and can have a very good GFE experience.

You need to have basic chinese skills as most of these girls cannot speak any english. If you have been living here for a couple of years, i'm sure you must have picked up enough of the language to get going.

For me it has always worked and now i have stopped going to Sauna's and BBS as i can have much better experience at much lesser price in my own apartment.

Bounce Around
09-25-07, 20:19
Notice: My days 2 and 3 are really dissapointments so read for comic value only, you could skip to my NINGBO experiences for some useful information in that city.

After a morning meeting, one of the girls for the company said I should go visit Xin Tian Di. Nice place, I went during the afternoon, I would imagine it would be a nice place for non P4P action at nights.comments?

I left this place and took a cab, now before I had left for my trip I had downloaded this handy english to Chinese audio dictionary thing for my new N95. I had already found to my dismay that the GPS app doesn't have a shanghai map, which I had hope would be usefull in my mongering, because like all men I think I can follow directions and streets but from all the RTFF I couldn't figure out where I was half the time.

*SIDE BAR* if someone has any app for the N95 that will allow me to see Chinese characters in SMSs and office docs, would appreciate, as well as a mapping thing.

Anyway, I whip out my toy and write barbershop in the phone translate to Chinese and show the driver, he's scrathing his head and doesn't get it, I write sauna, bathhouse: nothing! So I tell him take me to nanjing road. We get there and he drops me infornt of that fancy victorian hotel entrance on the main road. Forget the name.

I walk to a little down the main road and look down an alley, there are two big massage places about a block in. I go to one of them. No english, keep pointing to a menu. Usual regular massage prices, so I choose the most expensive two girl option 480.

The girls were nice, 7s I would say. They did a good massage, I was covered so that was a sure no-no sign, they didn't offer anything I didn't broach the subject again. Though one of them was extra attentive, similing at me, even walked me out and wanted to get a taxi for me, to nod to the post below mine about how to get GFE I think this would have been an option had I the language skills. PS. I did have a GFE like this in DXB with a Chinese girl, a 9, very little english, she's gone back now and I don't have her contact info *sob*

After the massage I roamed around a bit more, walking my way back to the Salvo hotel. Since I was so dissapointed at the lack of my ability to find BBS or any good LT option, and not wanting to call the escort service again, I let a tout take me a KTV. I like to call these fake KTVs. Never having been to a real KTV, I still think these are set up to rob tourists, maybe they are good for locals, or groups. Anyway this was a building a bit behind the pedestrian mall behind that big hotel, the giveaway was it was on floor 'H' the letter, not a number, I think it was higher than the 8th floor. The only letter on the elevator, anybody been there?

It was a rip off, and I will tell you this, I went there to experience the rip off after having read about it in many threats. My theory was that might as well see how bad things can get if you monger unsafe on your own rather than be blind sided, so I left wallet, everything in the hotel, only 1700RMB on me, and the room key. I know stupid! , I had two girls, both 5/6s seriously watered down drinks kept coming, some dry humping, some grab and feel, young girl wanted to sing, they wanted like 700/800 to go to the hotel, bargained down to 500 for both, then they wanted the money before we settled the bill, I argued for quite some time that it would be after but they would not hear no. So I paid them. Then the bill comes, 13 glasses were on the table and I was told the bill was 5600RMB! Yeah. Apparently they said the watered down crap was double whiskeys at 3XX a pop! I told them that I only had 1700, fat bouncer type dude. Then some lady came in, very polite, and so was I, we locked wits for a while, her calling me a mafia dude (I'm neither white, nor black) then she got mad, was willing to lower to 3000, I kept saying I only have 1200, plus the 500 I gave to the girls, she threw them out of the room, no I don't have a credit card. Then two guys came in sat on either side of me, she took a pic of me on her camera phone. I thought here it comes, didn't happen, woman went out, some guy (the boss) came in, one of the guys, not the bouncer the thin one got up and started yelling at me, I kept my head down, he jabbed my forehead with a finger once or twice, then the boss stopped him like hey what are you doing and the jabber left the room. The boss told me to give the bouncer my money, I did, they even let me keep the change only took the 100s. Then they let me go. I walked into the corridor stopped off at the pisser, 'cause I was about to have an accident! then went to the elevator, one of my girls was waiting for me there to press the button for me! I thought I'the try my luck, so I said, you comming? She said, no you are a liar (earlier I had called them liars, so only fair). A guy rode the elevator down with me kinda nonchallant, I walked out the building and started towards my hotel on foot, about 4-5 blocks. I saw him tell a guy to follow me out of the corner of my eye, so he followed me to the hotel, I should say they did know my room number. I got to the hotel, and kinda hung in the lobby for a while, he never came in. I went up to the room took the money etc out of the hotel safe, left in my passport and a bit of cash and hid the rest elsewhere. Then went to the roof top bar, 'cause I was a bit rattled. Eventually came back to the room and slept all ok.

Now, I know I was stupid, and VERY Lucky.compared to other people who have apparently been roughed up. All through my RTFF I haven't found any good etiquitte on KTVs, maybe I havent read enough. I had given myself a 80/20 chance 80 to get robbed 20 to get lucky before going in. I kinda figure that these ones in the alleys are rip off joints, though it did seem that some people were getting it on in the other rooms. I did walk into the one of the major KTVs in the pedestrian mall, 8th floor of one of the shopping centers. But that place didn't seem like it was the girl kind 'cause they looked at me somewhat funny at the door, very loud inside. I guess, one needs to do this experience with some locals.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Bad Boy Billy
09-25-07, 22:40
Disappointment at the Pub drove me to try the most mentioned sauna in this thread.
It was late and I was undecided on what to do: wandering on search for some BBS or targeting a sure venue ?
As Pub is not far from Shanghai Hotel and in my survival kit of business cards I had the one from Equatorial Hotel (which is at the corner with other Hotel), I grabbed a taxi and went there.

Got into hotel lobby, took elevator to 2nd floor and I was there: only sauna at that floor so you cannot miss it. Procedure/service is as described plenty of times too.
I didn't tell a word and got what I wanted. So, it is not necessary at all to manage language. Only words I had to say were a couple of "no, thanks" when scrub and pedicure services were offered.

Girls selection was excellent, lot of hotties available.
As it took a couple of minutes to evaluate them in detail, in the meantime another bunch of girls joined, and I selected from new arrivals.
Also, I liked very much you are in same room with girls, so you have better feeling of them and eye contact may give some indication on which girl to chose. They made some comments about me, but I couldn’t understand.

My choice was #67, Wen Lu, 23 yo from ... (forgot).
Little English and maybe not best technique, but very very cute. Probably one of best looking girl I had in China. Two shots and GFE: really what I needed that night.

On the way out I grabbed a business card which I post for your use.

Albert you are spot on with your assesment of this establishment.

So easy to find - zero Chinese required.

Quality of girls ALWAYS ecellent.

For a truly MEMORABLE experience -go during the day before 7pm so as to lower the cost - select 2 girls and take your mini digital camera into room with you - tell them to dispense with the cat bath crap and teach BOTH of them how to use your camera.

Remember these young sweeties pick things up very quickly - in 5 minutes they will be experts with yoiur camera.

Just let them take it in turns to take any / many pics as you work on the other - you will be AMAZED with the range of shots you will end up with and retain as a PERMENENT souvenir.

Billy will be back there again to try exactly this again on afternoon Oct 9 - my first afternoon back in town.

Albert Punter
09-26-07, 08:56
I went there around midnight.
I noticed maybe other 10 customers, just arrived like me or leaving after having enjoyed service.
Funny thing, I noticed just one westerner and I was about to ask "are you ISG member ?" but I had refrained.


Don't mind me asking, what time did you go, and how occupied was the place?

Clean Gene
09-26-07, 11:03
Stayed a couple of days at the FanYang Hotel in the JingAn district. Nice rooms. They gave me a two room suite furnished perhaps better than the Holiday Inn across from the old Rail Road Station. Breakfast simpler, but the baozi,better. Hotel has full facilities. I tried the ktv with a friend & his GF. OK.

Walked about 10 minutes to Nanjing Dong Lu. As I walked out of a hair shop where I had a hair trim, a girl, not unattractive, about 5'5", 120 lbs, wearing a messy greenish knit top (short sleeves, little white things in front--maybe flowers), black polyester pants and flip-flops, followed me, saying "cawfei? cawfei? Want drink with me?" I stepped up my pace to leave her behind. Then I looked back. She looked familiar. I think she may have been a girl once published on the ISG as "street girl" or perhaps "street urchin". So I doubled back and said, What about McDonald's, and we turned the corner walked past KFC and down the stairs to McD's. Place fairly empty. 6 or 7 youngsters at corner near stairs. I took the other corner kitty corner from the restroom. Gave her two 20's to buy something. Slipped my hands under her top to check her boobs. Nice. Checked the black pants, no underwear. She said "Go Hotel?" I said, "Go Taxi." In the taxi I said, "50 to feel your ****" Nice smelling. Wetness had a good texture. Firm. Ready for a pounding. I got a good hard on feeling her. Thought I could save the hard for something really good, and gave her 100 and let her out.

WinteRain
09-26-07, 11:50
I went there around midnight.

I noticed maybe other 10 customers, just arrived like me or leaving after having enjoyed service.

Funny thing, I noticed just one westerner and I was about to ask "are you ISG member ?" but I had refrained.Hahaha! I had the same temptation to ask the same question when I saw 2 caucasians at Thompson showering the other time.

Albert Punter
09-26-07, 12:24
Do you mind to share some of your souvenirs with us ?



...
Just let them take it in turns to take any / many pics as you work on the other - you will be AMAZED with the range of shots you will end up with and retain as a PERMENENT souvenir.
...

Asdvlerner
09-26-07, 13:13
*SIDE BAR* if someone has any app for the N95 that will allow me to see Chinese characters in SMSs and office docs, would appreciate, as well as a mapping thing.No comment on the rest of your report other than to say you were "lucky".

As for the Chinese characters software - try CE Star for Symbian. It came with my Windows PocketPC phone as an Add-on software. Never tried it on a Symbian operating system phone but works for me.

It's not freeware, but they have a free trial version.

No idea for the mapping thing though.

Cheers,

Asdv

Albert Punter
09-26-07, 13:31
I wanted to attach a link to Google Earth, .kmz file, where you can see some venues often mentioned here, like Shanghai Hotel, Julu Lu and TongRen Lu, together with some other landmarks.

However, cannot attach, as file is not accepted.
Has anyone idea on how I can do ?


P.S. Have attached pic of how Google Earth should appear when clicking on that link, where obviously names are barely legible and is not interactive.

Bounce Around
09-26-07, 14:40
I wanted to attach a link to Google Earth, .gmz file, where you can see some venues often mentioned here, like Shanghai Hotel, Julu Lu and TongRen Lu, together with some other landmarks.Very good effort, don't have the answers to your questions, but very informative. Kudos to a job well done, and helping out those novice mongerers.

Albert Punter
09-26-07, 14:47
As .zip files can be added, I attached that format.
Just open it and click on .kmz file (provided you got Google Earth programme).

I believe this type of visual map it is useful and may avoid, say, someone entering Equatorial Hotel instead of Shanghai Hotel, as it happened some time ago to a member of this forum.

Bad Boy Billy
09-26-07, 22:41
Do you mind to share some of your souvenirs with us ?

Np problems my friend - ENJOY.