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Admin
01-01-07, 02:00
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Admin
01-01-07, 02:00
Thread Starter.

Anallove
01-01-07, 09:54
Hi there,

I have been in Shanghai over 2 years and managed to get lots of "free" pussy in that time just asking girls out and then working a bit of charm. I say "free" cos as you know 'nothings free in life'. After you bought her dinner once or twice you have already invested about Y500. Also I am so tired of having to convince some girl I love her when I dont really and having to listen to her inane conversation about shopping and sleeping and how tall I am. As such I would really like to give this Sauna scene a go. I love getting a massage and having a sauna and I guess getting your rocks off as well would be great!

I hope there is someone out there who would be willing to take me along next time they go out (or to BBS). The red rope thing I have read about here sounds interesting. I used to goto Sauna place in Korea (which is REALLY sex-crazy country) which I enjoyed immensely but somehow I just never got around to it in China. Partly I am quite shy and I also feel nervous about being ripped off.

I am well-educated, not much of a drinker and am a local hire so my finances are limited but I am easy-going and willing to try anything once.

:-) 2007

Monkey King
01-01-07, 12:00
C'mon, Monkey King, tell us how you *really* feel! :-)

GMI feel like punching the boss lady in the mouth. But then I realize I just listen to too much Tom Leykis when I'm back in L.A., and I should tone down my misogynist feelings towards annoying loud mouth fat bitc*es and others of the Rosie O'Donnel clan.

Happy new years!

Albert Punter
01-01-07, 12:10
Gang Members, Senior Members, Regular Members and Friends,

May the New Year materialize all your Mongering Wishes !

Ace Gallant
01-01-07, 17:43
To the Shanghai gang
Happy New year and Best wishes for 2007,I am currently in town for a quick 2 day visit with the Wifey.So I cant hook up with anybody.Anyway Best regards to everybody Cheers

Happy New Year to you too!

Unfortunately only poor old me, "Wooooo" and "the unknown one" from the Shanghai gang left in town to spend this New Year Eve in Shanghai. I am flying down to CP tomorrow to meet the South China gang.

But all is not lost; pick up a pair of Pros from the streets of TRL. agreed on 400 each in total for LT. Hope that I am able to wake up tomorrow to catch my flight out to CP!

TRL was buzzing with live on this New Year Eve! Lots of SWs, Pros, and girls there tonight!

Have a great year ahead!

BTW: Lots of Plain-clothes police there tonight too!

AG

Gualtier Malde
01-01-07, 22:42
To the Shanghai gang
Happy New year and Best wishes for 2007,I am currently in town for a quick 2 day visit with the Wifey.So I cant hook up with anybody.Anyway Best regards to everybody Cheers

I'll add my wishes for you all too! Sorry I'm not in town to share in the festivities on TRL! See you guys soon - I'm already planning my 2007 jaunts!

GM

Aisin Gioro
01-02-07, 07:24
Hi, gentlemen,

First of all, allow me a brief self-introduction.

I'm a young professional just new to Shanghai but old to the Far East and the Scene, here and back home. Not having any major vice, addiction or remarkable hobby, in ***** mongering I find a pleasant way to burn my money (and serotonin) away, as well as an excellent socialization means. Indeed, the folk here seem worth socializing with, and I hope soon we'll get to know each other. As any other form of hunting, ours is more fun, and somehow more effective, when done in group, isn't it?

As to my business profile, I must say I have an extensive (for my age) career: I have *****d out five European countries, one North-American, five South-East Asian (including Taiwan), one central-China capital and another one in the South.

I am glad to see that I have several interesting venues at hand near my place, including the "can't be mentioned" place. My apartment is more or less four blocks east to it, if you want to know.

Of course that will be my upcoming first report and initiation procedure in the brotherhood...

Second, and last, although it may have been a better first,

I wish you all a Happy, Happy Mongering Year 2007.

Aisin Gioro

Fly Surfing
01-02-07, 09:56
Hey dude so first of all one question:

- Do you know a good place for a nice ass and prostate massage if possible finished by a nice handjob or blowjob ?

- Do you know a nice place for a good blowjob and a swallow ?

I mean something like a massage place ?

Otherwise:

I have been at Territary Leisure Time (Shanxi Nan Lu / Zhaojiabang lu)arround 1 am.
Place is 5/10 quiet clean but nothing compare to a dragon fly massage place.

The girl: 4/10
I chosed the Venician massage (160 + 100 for the handjob).

Good massage, finished by a nice Hand Job.
I would like to find a place where the girl can give also a prostage massage a tit massage and Blow Job.

If you have good adress. Thanks by advance ;)

Siberian Wolf
01-02-07, 11:40
Hi,

She has a scar on the left side of the stomach , stright scar due to surgery ( she said ) , did u had some experience with her?

I think I may know who you are referring to. And if I am correct I do have
her contact info. But first I would like to confirm we are talking about the same girl. Could you please describe the scar on her stomach?

Cockburn
01-02-07, 17:43
Happy New Year to all Members and special Thanks to Senior Members who had made my previous China trips fruitful with all the good informational posts.

I will be back in China again soon and would like to hook up with some of you in the various fine cities of China.

If any one of you are coming to SFO, please PM, I will be happy to be host in my home base. I will also treat you to a free dinner at my Chinese restaurant in Chinatown.

CB

Aisin Gioro
01-02-07, 18:06
First report (even before my self introduction gets through the quarantine): Ji Yuan Sauna (JYS):

In my first post I mentioned that my first report would be on the "can't be named" place (CBNP), which lays close to my apartment. As I walked under the rain, I suddenly remembered that JYS was on my way to the CBNP. I didnt even need to change my planned route, so I decided to check the outside at least. I did. And the inside too. The idea of a warm athmosphere, a comfortable quasi roman-style robe and a nap in the waiting room, followed by something else was way too tempting given today's nasty weather. What a wonderful idea.

Actually the rainy, shitty day was a plus for me to go out mongering: less users, wider choice. The chosen time (4.00 pm) followed that rationale too.

Summary:

Location: 609, Jiaozhou Lu (Chanping Lu intersection)

Service: group relaxation in pijamas, massage, FS. One coke

Total damage: 760 RMB

Evaluation:

a) Premises: very nice

b) Hygiene: very good

c) Out-room staff: poor

d) In-room staff: very good

Total: an excellent start in SH. The price is fixed, so you don't need to worry about being ripped off. The place is nice, so you don't need to worry about catching stuff from the slippers, the showers or the sofas. The girls are absolutely hot, so you don't need to worry about... whatever. A MUST.

First impression: the premises (street entrance to waiting room) were quite nice. Based on my previous (limited) experience in central China, extrapolating the price, I expected something shabbier, less well kept and less clean. None of that.

Second impression: the male staff are a bunch of pricks. And lazy.

Third impression: unexpectedly, the only one coughing and farting in the waiting room was me (attaining complete recovery after a really bad cold I've been through these days was another plus to go get some warmth), although there were a couple of locals there who looked (and sounded), well, really local (total monger pop. when I arrived, me excluded: 1. When I left for the fish bowl: 8. All locals or Chinese-speaking).

Fourth impression: aprox. 15 minutes after arrival Mr. A-9 and I (A-10) were called into the "fish bowl" to make our choice. I was shocked to see that I was released, thrown, kicked! into a hellish sort of Paradise. I expected the one-way mirror bowl (Thai style), but not only there was no such thing, but the girls were right there, literally at hand, staring at me. And oh, they ARE hot. And oh, you want them all. My brain just collapsed for a few, loooong seconds, having to discard ALL but one of those sweeties. Too much for me, but not for Mr. A-9, who took about two seconds (literally) to pick and leave. Be water, my friend.

Fifth impression: the playroom is kind of small. Seing the rest of the place, I thought it would be bigger and, say, classier although it was clean and properly kept. For those who have been there, it was kind of a smaller version of the top suites at BKK's Poseidon, just no jacuzzi. Actually, you leave your stuff outside in the lockers, so you don't really need that much space. Especially in the cold SH winter. I still don't know what a big silver-colour plastic ball sitting on the floor was for.

Sixth impression: once in the room, I actually realized that I had picked a total stunner. It's not about my taste or your taste. That's a world standard. And it's a 10. 21 year old, I don't know where from, only that she's from out of town (what's new?), just one month in the metropolis, to the point that I could name more landmarks and street names than she could. Well, actually she just knew Chanping lu...

Seventh impression: stop pretending you are a masseuse, sweetheart. I'll show ya what's good.

Eighth impression: what the phuck are those whipe-like, battery-fed, blue latex beams for...? Oh well, I will if you will... Perfect body, perfect attitude, perfect everything. No English, though (maybe that adds to the fun, in the end, as long as you have some basic Mandarin skills).

Ninth impression: the drawback is, one shot only! The oily body massage in the bath area, that is always fun. But when we were on the regular bed, after a while I rushed her to cut the massage crap and go to the real thing (if she wasn't THAT hot...), so after one hour and a half (I think) I was done. About ten minutes later some sort of alarm rang, then shower, then she called outside and all the costumary stuff "hen hao, hen hao", blah blah.

Tenth impression: didn't ask about the take-home. But after a brief SMS exchange during dinner time, I'm waiting for my home delivery anytime soon around 1.30... free of charge, of course.

Rain 2007
01-03-07, 04:38
Hi there,

I will visit Shanghai in middle of Feb for a couple of days. It will be my first time in more than 10 years. Can anyone give some advice on where I can find a clean, safe and affordable hotel in downtown area or near train station area and, of cause, affordable girls :-) Appreciated.

Rain2007

Aisin Gioro
01-03-07, 14:12
gents,

today i was scouting around (i'm in the "sticking pins in the map" phase) and felt that after yesterday's aborted trip to cbnp i would at least check the exact location.

imagine my surprise when i noticed that four or five days ago i had been checking the antiques shop right next door to the unadverted entrance to the so called cbnp!

preliminar evaluation based on visual inspection from the outside (e.g. peeping through a small glass stripe i found by the door): shabby! i'll give it a try, of course.

more news soon.

ps: any plans for the weekend?

Guylovechina
01-03-07, 20:19
Hi fellow travellers,

I'll be staying in SH soon, at the JinJiang Tower. Can anyone give me some advise on nearby action?

Also, where should I go in XinTianDi area? Which bar is good and easy to find a nice girl that will come with you f.o.c. after feeding her some drinks?

Thanks

Noble Gent
01-04-07, 02:25
I don't remember if I can post phone numbers here, sorry Jackson. If I can't please delete them.

Dman so,

Try this number 13391212777 or 51099128

Address: 1033 KongDing Lu. Building is called Tong Ji Jia Yuan.

I haven't been there in a very very very long time, not sure if the number is still active, please give a try. and post the results and let us know how it turned out.

Thank you

NG


Hey there Noble Gent,

The below quote was from way way back 2005 dec I believe... I am more of a massage fella... and was wondering if I can take you up on the offer of "further info". Can you tell me where abouts is this apartment area? And what is the cost? Any FS available? How would you rate the girl? How was the massage?

Sorry for the 1001 questions.

I did a search (as thorough as I can figure out) on locations in Shanghai, but this particular quote seems most intriguing to me. Hope you don't mind me bringing up old news.

Congrats on the seniority level btw.

Tango Foxtwo
01-04-07, 09:52
Hi fellow travellers,

I'll be staying in SH soon, at the JinJiang Tower. Can anyone give me some advise on nearby action?

Also, where should I go in XinTianDi area? Which bar is good and easy to find a nice girl that will come with you f.o.c. after feeding her some drinks?

ThanksI'll be in JinJiang (OLD Building) next week. How long will you be in SH?

I only know KTVs around JJ hotel. Go to 151 club (my fav) just don't pick up my girlfriend. Some english speaking girls there. Need to go with local who can guide you. For pickups. Try Manhattan at ton ren ru. Around XTD, hang out at Starbuck and strike up conversations with any girl. It works 40% of the time. I like the red maison bar. However, my all time fav is PARK97. Lookers and some hookers. All else fails, try the Shanghai hotel sauna for a sure thing.

Tango Foxtwo
01-04-07, 10:10
Happy New Year to all Members and special Thanks to Senior Members who had made my previous China trips fruitful with all the good informational posts.

I will be back in China again soon and would like to hook up with some of you in the various fine cities of China.

If any one of you are coming to SFO, please PM, I will be happy to be host in my home base. I will also treat you to a free dinner at my Chinese restaurant in Chinatown.

CBHey CB,

I'm in the SFO area. I'll be going to Shanghai next week again (once a month since June of last year). Its my new play ground. Its been business and pleasure mix, but next week will be all play. If you want to connect and play a trip to PVG, look me up. Try [Email address deleted by Admin]

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Tango Foxtwo
01-04-07, 10:17
Hi there,

I have been in Shanghai over 2 years and managed to get lots of "free" pussy in that time just asking girls out and then working a bit of charm. I say "free" cos as you know 'nothings free in life'. After you bought her dinner once or twice you have already invested about Y500. Also I am so tired of having to convince some girl I love her when I dont really and having to listen to her inane conversation about shopping and sleeping and how tall I am. As such I would really like to give this Sauna scene a go. I love getting a massage and having a sauna and I guess getting your rocks off as well would be great!

I hope there is someone out there who would be willing to take me along next time they go out (or to BBS). The red rope thing I have read about here sounds interesting. I used to goto Sauna place in Korea (which is REALLY sex-crazy country) which I enjoyed immensely but somehow I just never got around to it in China. Partly I am quite shy and I also feel nervous about being ripped off.

I am well-educated, not much of a drinker and am a local hire so my finances are limited but I am easy-going and willing to try anything once.

:-) 20072 years in Korea and hated to leave. But all good things have to end. I found that Shanghai is even better. Girls have better attitude then Korea. I'll be in SH 11 Jan. PM me and we can meet up for beer. I'll introduce you to some firends of my GF. If you want Sauna - go to Shanghai Hotel. Fixed price and nice facility.

Oakley08
01-04-07, 11:53
Yes, I have regular contact with her. But I think we may be talking about a different girl. Her scar is on her right side of her stomach. And she has it concealed with a tattoo. Its crazy, your prior desciptions fit this girl exactly. But afterall Shanghai is a big place with a lot of people.


Hi,

She has a scar on the left side of the stomach , stright scar due to surgery ( she said ) , did u had some experience with her?

I think I may know who you are referring to. And if I am correct I do have
her contact info. But first I would like to confirm we are talking about the same girl. Could you please describe the scar on her stomach?

Albert Punter
01-04-07, 13:22
JinJiang tower is in a central location favourable for many mongering opportunities. Yes, it is not far from XTD.

For f.o.c. do you mean free of charge, i.e. freebie ?
If such is the case you can try to score in many bars, discos, clubs, cafes or shopping centres in town. Even on the road.
Make some research to this purpose in this thread and you will find many posts talking about where and how we are able to meet freebies.

Enjoy



Hi fellow travellers,

I'll be staying in SH soon, at the JinJiang Tower. Can anyone give me some advise on nearby action?

Also, where should I go in XinTianDi area? Which bar is good and easy to find a nice girl that will come with you f.o.c. after feeding her some drinks?

Thanks

Ace Gallant
01-04-07, 14:35
JinJiang tower is in a central location favourable for many mongering opportunities. Yes, it is not far from XTD.

For f.o.c. do you mean free of charge, i.e. freebie ?
If such is the case you can try to score in many bars, discos, clubs, cafes or shopping centres in town. Even on the road.
Make some research to this purpose in this thread and you will find many posts talking about where and how we are able to meet freebies.

Enjoy


In Short: RTFF

AG

Fly Surfing
01-04-07, 15:56
Hello everybody,

Sorry to post this question:

Do you know a place where it s possible to receive a prostate massage and a blowjob / handjob?

I mean something like a massage place like territary with possibility of doing many others stuff for arround 400 rm or less?

Thanks you a lot for this answer.

Fly Surfing

Brigategb
01-05-07, 01:25
Hello everybody,

Sorry to post this question:

Do you know a place where it s possible to receive a prostate massage and a blowjob / handjob?

I mean something like a massage place like territary with possibility of doing many others stuff for arround 400 rm or less?

Thanks you a lot for this answer.

Fly SurfingIf you wonna do Priceless just do IT YOURSELF.

What to hell want you to do for less than 400 RMB?

Ace Gallant
01-05-07, 02:42
Hello everybody,

Sorry to post this question:

Do you know a place where it s possible to receive a prostate massage and a blowjob / handjob?

I mean something like a massage place like territary with possibility of doing many others stuff for arround 400 rm or less?

Thanks you a lot for this answer.

Fly Surfing

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=476551&postcount=6025

Enjoy
AG

Gualtier Malde
01-05-07, 05:10
Hi Tango,

I too travel as you do, from the SF area. I go almost once per month as you do. For a moment when I read your post I thought you were me! :-) If you can PM, send me one.

GM


Hey CB,

I'm in the SFO area. I'll be going to Shanghai next week again (once a month since June of last year). Its my new play ground. Its been business and pleasure mix, but next week will be all play. If you want to connect and play a trip to PVG, look me up. Try [Email address deleted by Admin]

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Tallda
01-05-07, 09:45
Hi guys,

I would be in Shanghai for 2 weeks in Feb at the Equaitorial in Jingan. Any place nearby for some fast action as I would not have much time. Whats the usual rate for a FS at a health spa or for a FL for ST?

Thanks

Pointpanic
01-05-07, 10:51
I know its not in Shanghai but try the Beauty Parlour Girls at the Crowne Plaza on Wanfujing next time you are in Beijing. They see everyone that comes into the Hotel. Price is little on the high side though (over 1K yuan).


Hello everybody,

Sorry to post this question:

Do you know a place where it s possible to receive a prostate massage and a blowjob / handjob?

I mean something like a massage place like territary with possibility of doing many others stuff for arround 400 rm or less?

Thanks you a lot for this answer.

Fly Surfing

Riku58
01-05-07, 11:07
Hello friends,

Visiting shanghai later this month. Will be staying at the Purple Mountain Hotel. Any recommendation for nearby massage parlours, nightclubs, bars, real action. Your help / advise will be appreciated.

Gualtier Malde
01-06-07, 04:49
Hi guys,

I would be in Shanghai for 2 weeks in Feb at the Equaitorial in Jingan. Any place nearby for some fast action as I would not have much time. Whats the usual rate for a FS at a health spa or for a FL for ST?

Thanks

Tallda, your hotel is on the same block as the Shanghai Hotel. Search for info on that, or just read my early post in the Reports of Distinction. Evening rate is 750RMB all included.

You will also be walking distance from Tong Ren Lu, Heng Shan Lu, and Julu Lu.

You can find street walkers around the corner from your hotel in front of and across the street from the Hilton (next to your hotel).

Prices for SW's are 200RMB if you are a good negotiator, otherwise 300RMB (ST).

RTFF, you'll find plenty of information by searching on any of the street names or hotel names.

Note that Chinese New Year celebrations start Feb 18. You'll probably hit some effect from that regardless of when you go. If you are there during CNY, good luck, you'll probably have limited action (but lots of fireworks)...

GM

Atapchee
01-06-07, 05:53
Hello friends,

Visiting shanghai later this month. Will be staying at the Purple Mountain Hotel. Any recommendation for nearby massage parlours, nightclubs, bars, real action. Your help / advise will be appreciated.If I remember correctly, Purple Mountain Hotel is on the Pudong side, across from the Intercontinental. It is also across the small side street from a hospital.

In the Intercontinental, there is a bar that is frequented by women on the prowl. They were asking for about 500RMB.

On the next side street over, there were quite a few BBS.

On the next main street, there is the St. Regis Hotel and there are women in that bar. Across from the St. Regis is the Holiday Inn, and that bar has women. In fact, I have a funny story about the Holiday Inn. As I walked out of the China Oil Hotel (Chung Yo Fan Den) (former Nikko Hotel) toward the Holiday Inn, I walked past some bushes and out jumps a woman and she says, "Want a blow job?" I said, "No. I usually don't take blow jobs from women in bushes. But thanks for asking." Not sure how much she wanted for the services.

Fuzimiao
01-06-07, 12:05
Hello friends,

Visiting shanghai later this month. Will be staying at the Purple Mountain Hotel. Any recommendation for nearby massage parlours, nightclubs, bars, real action. Your help / advise will be appreciated.

PM Hotel is extremely GF, the hotel has also inhouse facilities. Go to barbers shop on 4th floor. You will be offerred a menu starting at body massage in room for 198 rmb. Price for FS can be negotiated in room but be aware the basic charge of 198 rmb is per 45 mins and applies above anything else you may negotiate. Normally 6 girls available, mostly 8 and above.

Leave Hotel by supermarket door, turn left to Laoshan Donglu / Weifang Lu intersection (KFC on corner), staight across to Laoshan Donglu. Between the WeifangLu intersection and street end at Pudian Lu there are 11 Massage palours, all of class far above BBS level. Prices range from 120 rmb per hour for body massage to 200 rmb for essential oil massage. Generally a happy ending can be negotiated (HJ). As far as I'm aware FS is to be had at the largest, called Classical, also a rather sensual version of Prostrate massage.

As mentioned recently on the forum, Weifang Lu has several small massage establishments, as you walk towards the river on left of road, there are several ground floor appartments with one or two ladies visible, generally lookers.

In addition there are numerous young girls in the street offerring various services mainly from 10 pm onwards.

PM for more detailed info.

FZ

Aisin Gioro
01-07-07, 08:57
Hi gents,

I was wondering if there is anything like the Japanese "tere-kura" (telephone clubs) in Shanghai.

Basically, after paying the entrance fee, one has access to a room equiped with:

-one telephone

-one photo book of the ladies avalaible, some broad information on them and one telephone number (which of course is not her real number, but one that is diverted to hers)

The official purpose is talking on the telephone with the selected lady, and that's all one pays for. Of course the private arrangements derived from the conversation are just one's business only...

A perfectly legal cover plus a messed up society in which millions of neglected, frustrated hot housewives have nothing better to do than arranging sexual encounters with anonymous guys, and a similar amount of hot school girls are willing to do anything for a Louis Vuitton piece of nylon, makes this business just huge in the island, and I wonder if somehow it actually translats into something real and proper here. At least to get fresh, independent pros.

I think I've read something like this on the forum, but to be honest, these days I've had too much spare time and read way too many reports as to remember clearly. Good thing that tomorrow's Monday.

Rbaajl
01-07-07, 13:30
Hi,

I'm going to be in Sofitel Pudong in Shanghai.

If the hotel GF. please suggest good action nearby.

Riku58
01-07-07, 15:30
Thks for your below advise.

For room body massage, do I expect a body to body? Oil massage?

For extras, how much for full service.

Appreciate your advise.

Is the hotel near to Shanghai hotel. What is the easiect way to get there?

Appreciate more advise for night clubs / discos where girls can be picked up for LT / overnight. How much?

Bored2676
01-08-07, 06:27
Hey all,

I am going to be in Shanghai later on in the month and staying at Pudong Shangrila. Need to "experience" China. Any good places nearby?

Thanks

Anallove
01-08-07, 09:00
Hello,

Does anyone here know about short-time love motels in Shanghai (ie. a hotel room you can book for 2-3 hours for obvious purposes)? In Korea and Japan there are loads of places like this that are fairly cheap and clean and allow for discretion if you are already involved.

I just want to pay no-fuss, and not worry about showing my passport or any other stupid Chinese thing like that.

The only place I know of that is similar is if you goto a public bathhouse you can book a nice room for Y100, but then you have to pay to get into the sauna as well which will set you back another Y150 odd for 2 people. If i can just get the room on its own that's perfect.

Any knowledge on this topic?

Thanks in advance.

Albert Punter
01-08-07, 13:28
Two places are not far (considering distances in this town).
Shanghai Hotel is other side of the river from where you stay.
I would recommend you to take a taxi, which may take not more than 20-25 minutes, during peak hours. Fare should be 25-30 RMB.



Thks for your below advise.

Is the hotel near to Shanghai hotel. What is the easiect way to get there?

Albert Punter
01-08-07, 13:44
Gualtier Malde already replied, but allow me to give more clues:
a) stroll in front of Hilton, which is just around the corner from Equatorial Hotel, in search for street girls;
b) try bars in Julu Lu, which is almost in front of Hilton, for some take-away;
c) try big massage place in front of Hilton, in case you are up just for HJ;
d) to move north to Tongren Lu bars strip, intersection with Yanan Lu, for take-away;
e) to move farther north to Malone's for take away;
f) to move farther north to the Pub, for a quick "on premises" release ;
g) to move south to Zapata's and other venues in Hengshan Lu, for take-away;
h) to move east to Xin Tian Di bars, for take-away;
i) take a girl from Equatorial Hotel karaoke (in case you are willing to spend).

Enjoy


Hi guys,

I would be in Shanghai for 2 weeks in Feb at the Equaitorial in Jingan. Any place nearby for some fast action as I would not have much time. Whats the usual rate for a FS at a health spa or for a FL for ST?

Thanks

Major Clanger
01-08-07, 14:28
Is the Shanghai Hotel a one shot only deal or does 90 mins mean as many times as you can manage?

Aisin Gioro
01-08-07, 15:58
alright, fellows

i just walked passed in front of the bbs at the s-w corner of chanping lu/jiangning lu (monday, jan. 8th. 22:40+/-). there was one good looking laowei standing there, several steps away from the door, hesitating but definitely peeping the merchandise in a more or less discreet manner (they looked peepable tonight, indeed), and would i have not being in a rush (i'm waiting for my f.o.c. home delivery), hell i myself would have dragged you inside, boy!

now, confess, who of you fellas was him?

i think it's time to devise some sort of secret monger hand sign for these situations or something.

Unknown One
01-08-07, 19:58
Hello,

Does anyone here know about short-time love motels in Shanghai (ie. a hotel room you can book for 2-3 hours for obvious purposes)? In Korea and Japan there are loads of places like this that are fairly cheap and clean and allow for discretion if you are already involved.

I just want to pay no-fuss, and not worry about showing my passport or any other stupid Chinese thing like that.

The only place I know of that is similar is if you goto a public bathhouse you can book a nice room for Y100, but then you have to pay to get into the sauna as well which will set you back another Y150 odd for 2 people. If i can just get the room on its own that's perfect.

Any knowledge on this topic?

Thanks in advance.

Yeah I hope you speak Chinese for this but it basically works the same way as sleazy motels in the US. They offer "Hourly rates" and if you find a small motel that offer 钟点房, its means the exact same thing. However, I have never seen hourly rates at nice hotels. Usually smaller motel that are independantly run. I cannot confirm with economic motel chains. Large hotels do not offer this as far as I know.

Unknown One
01-08-07, 20:33
Mongering Market Report: Associated Mongers Released January 8, 2007 01:15:26 GMT +8
The beginning for the year 2007 has so far been a lackluster of new development to give the monger market the refreshing boost from stagnancy it desperately needs. Market speculators are divided between a necessary correction from a spectacular 2006 performance, to indications to a much bigger problem of a mongering recession in 2007? Fundamentals are strong, the SH A Shares Mongering Monger Index (SHAMMI) report released today were inline with expectations but deeper analysis of the data shows a slowdown trend for growth. The market is seeing a lack of new location development IPO's that generally spurs strong growth. The Monger IPO has also not seen strength since the days of the Pluto IPO and new contributions has been sluggish but questions have risen by as much as 125%. Many mongers seem to be drawing back into a defensive position and investing in GWI (Girlfriend Wife Index) or FXI (Freebie Sex Index) as a staggering volume of 1350 moved the GWI index up 4.51 to close at a record high today at 1069 and the FXI performed solidly up 1.38 to close at 785.
The Shanghai FS Shares has been moving sideways beginning Q3 2006 and the 200 day mongering average has flatlined. Many mongers are predicting the bear is coming out as the bulls are slowly but surely pulling back.

Top 5 index movers

AG -1.25 200RMB@ 8.75 GM +0.17 200RMB@ 6.25 BL 0.00 0RMB@ 6.00
AP +0.11 300RMB@ 5.55 UO -3.80 100RMB@2.28

Major defensive play indicies closing figures

GF +2.21 @34.51 Freebies +3.15 @69.69 Wife +0.25 @37.82

Shanghaisnap
01-09-07, 13:06
Happy New Year To All,

Long time expat in Shanghai, and have been enjoying the delights of Shanghai Hotel and the Sauna at Changshou Lu & Wuning Lu for a while.

Took off early from the office tonight and headed for a session with one of regular faves at the Shanghai Hotel.

In my mind this place has always maintained a consistent quality, and is even better when you find 1 or 2 (ok 6!) lovely regulars. Tonight was no exception with an added bonus. The slinky dresses the girls wear have been replaced by tartan mini skirts, tight sleeveless white blouse with matching tartan scarf. Very, very cute and sexy. For those who prefer, my little favourite returned to the room in the uniform, but with no underwear. Allowing me to finish by lifting the skirt over her lovely arse while she stood over the massage table and told me to "gai wo, gai wo, gai wo" from behind. She did not have to ask me twice.

Enjoy,

Snap

Albert Punter
01-09-07, 13:21
Some time ago in Beijing thread same issue was discussed.
Someone proposed a pin, but nothing materialized.

Maybe the Gang can come out with some idea.

However, safety issue came out as well.
As, by wearing that pin or another distinctive sign, mongers could be easily targeted by law enforcers.
Taking that concern into consideration, I have to tell you that I prefer to remain on the conservative side.

Whenever we find someone that looks like a monger, we can try to socialize a little bit and help if necessary.
Then during chit-chat, in case we feel confident, forum could be mentioned.




I think it's time to devise some sort of secret monger hand sign for these situations or something.

Unknown One
01-09-07, 14:27
Some time ago in Beijing thread same issue was discussed.
Someone proposed a pin, but nothing materialized.

Maybe the Gang can come out with some idea.

However, safety issue came out as well.
As, by wearing that pin or another distinctive sign, mongers could be easily targeted by law enforcers.
Taking that concern into consideration, I have to tell you that I prefer to remain on the conservative side.

Whenever we find someone that looks like a monger, we can try to socialize a little bit and help if necessary.
Then during chit-chat, in case we feel confident, forum could be mentioned.

I guess wearing a tshirt that says " I am a member of the ISGForum and all I got was this lousy t-shirt" is out of the question then. Although I think i tshirt with an ISG logo in front with the web address on the back can look nice. Or would that look overly techno-geek?
I tried a couple of things before when I saw a group of guys on the street looking for pussy.

1. Coughing loudly and croak "WSG"
2. Call out random senior handles and see if they turn their heads. Select names that are well known enough that even if they arent the one, they will know the name.
3. Talk to them, mention that WSG rules! If they have no idea what that is, tell them it is a local Chinese pop group.
4. Walk up to them and look them in the eye and recant dryly "If I were to say I am a ISG traveller coming from the east....." and hold out your hand in anticipation.
5. Make hand gestures against chest, signing out "W-S-G", slouch, tilt head, and sneer like you are from the hood.

What do you guys think?

Eazy Guy
01-09-07, 18:31
The forum was started by Jackson, why not we just use 'Jack' or 'Jackson' as the clue since eveyone of us known Jack is the administrator. So next time when we saw someone on the street looking arround for girls or someone in the sauna and he seems like one of our member just ask him, "you know jack?" or "you know jackson?". If the answer is 'yes' then we just exchange our nick! Hope this stupid idea will be considered, anyone have a better idea?

eg

Wilde
01-10-07, 03:11
this is sort of an awkward question but i can't think of a better place to ask it.

a group of friends of mine from hk want to visit shanghai with me near the end of the month. and they have all heard of the sauna massages in places like the shanghai hotel. well, i have never been there myself but since shanghai is my birth place, i am the designated guide. the problem is amongst these friends there is a gay couple who are also interested in getting a massage. i was relieved to find out that they understand the kind of massages that the rest of us would be getting. i wonder if they can get a good deep tissue or swedish massage from a trained therapist at the same place, not one from the lineup. otherwise i would have to find alternate arrangement for them, which is just a bit more hassel but i am okay with that too.

i understand the forum rules re. homosexual messages as spam. i am not asking for details of establishments in shanghai that caters to that lifestyle.

Brain Damaged
01-10-07, 04:22
The forum was started by Jackson, why not we just use 'Jack' or 'Jackson' as the clue since eveyone of us known Jack is the administrator. So next time when we saw someone on the street looking arround for girls or someone in the sauna and he seems like one of our member just ask him, "you know jack?" or "you know jackson?". If the answer is 'yes' then we just exchange our nick! Hope this stupid idea will be considered, anyone have a better idea?

eg

Hee hee, but the follow up of, "Oh, you don't know jack" could prove troublesome! (Jackson works, tho'.)

Ace Gallant
01-10-07, 04:38
Hee hee, but the follow up of, "Oh, you don't know jack" could prove troublesome! (Jackson works, tho'.)

IMHO:
If you ask me this question, my answer to you will be "No, I don't know Jackson".

So, where will you go from there?

How will I know Jackson when I had not seen or met him before?

Why don't we go straight to the point by asking, "Are you from ISG?" Straight forward question will get straight forward answers.

AG

Aisin Gioro
01-10-07, 14:06
Hi fellow BBSzens,

Lots of Gong An on my way back from the office tonight. I wanted to check several BBS I flagged on my Shaghai map during the last days, but everytime I got near to one of them, I could spot gong an enforcers dangerously close to the venue.

I saw two police vans parked right in front of two contiguous parlours in Shaanxi Lu / Kangding Lu (I think), one car in front of another shop in Jiaozhou Lu and even several motorbikes (at least five) parked at the Chanping Lu/Jiangning Lu corner. I only saw three gongangers inside the van at Shaanxi Lu, though. The rest of them must have been... enforcing? collecting? getting a massage?

I'm new in this city so I don't really know what to expect from the police here. In the other Chinese cities I've been to police was either absent or not taking care of this sort of business. Actually I even went into the Chanping Lu venue to ask about the service terms (no dabao, so I walked away), just to notice the motorbikes parked at the corner *after walking out. Have I been in serious danger?

Did anybody notice anything? Am I paranoid?

Eazy Guy
01-10-07, 22:59
I think 'ISG' is an good idea, shall we introduce our nick after the 'confirmation'? To make sure we are not talking to any MIB, at least we could recognize the nick and think 'oh...yaya......this fellow monger is who and so in which thread'

eg

Ace Gallant
01-11-07, 02:23
Hi fellow BBSzens,

Lots of Gong An on my way back from the office tonight. I wanted to check several BBS I flagged on my Shaghai map during the last days, but everytime I got near to one of them, I could spot gong an enforcers dangerously close to the venue.

Did anybody notice anything? Am I paranoid?


Those Gongan are there for 2 main purpose:

1) It the begining of the year and near Chinese New Year.... time to get paid.

2) There had been too many scams reported on BBS recently. Security must be maintained.

Try not to be over paranoid, but stay away from those places while they are performing their "work".

AG

Gualtier Malde
01-11-07, 08:37
...
i) take a girl from Equatorial Hotel karaoke (in case you are willing to spend).
...



Alas, the Equatorial Karaoke place has shut down. Also, there are no longer girls for hire in the Blue Moon bar on the 4th floor. Go to the penthouse bar at the hilton, there are always a few high quality (and high price) pros working there. I've seen a russian there as well. However, I've never taken a pro from either bar. They are too expensive, considering what you can take from the street below.

GM

Gualtier Malde
01-11-07, 08:46
this is sort of an awkward question but i can't think of a better place to ask it.

a group of friends of mine from hk want to visit shanghai with me near the end of the month. and they have all heard of the sauna massages in places like the shanghai hotel. well, i have never been there myself but since shanghai is my birth place, i am the designated guide. the problem is amongst these friends there is a gay couple who are also interested in getting a massage. i was relieved to find out that they understand the kind of massages that the rest of us would be getting. i wonder if they can get a good deep tissue or swedish massage from a trained therapist at the same place, not one from the lineup. otherwise i would have to find alternate arrangement for them, which is just a bit more hassel but i am okay with that too.

i understand the forum rules re. homosexual messages as spam. i am not asking for details of establishments in shanghai that caters to that lifestyle.

wilde,

the shanghai hotel massage with "extras" is on the 2nd floor. i think there may be a legit massage place on the third floor. if not, send those not interested in extras around the block to the equatorial hotel. their spa is legitimate and very good quality massage. you could probably send them a little further to the hilton's spa for the same legitimate treatment.

good luck!

gm

Carnesseur
01-11-07, 19:20
Hello all! New to this forum. A little background. I've travelled to China for two-week stints twice over the last two years. Visited a number of large cities on those trips. Recently started regular quarterly trips to Shanghai. Had a few experiences that might be interesting to people on this list. I will post those place-specific reports in the proper threads. In this post I want to discuss my latest find. Twice visited a KTV in Shanghai with Chinese-American friends back in September (not sure of KTV, but right off of Huai Hai Zhong Lu near Xizang Nan Lu in Golden Bell Tower). Very upscale. First night, took home a very lovely young non-english speaker (2000 RMB for what should have been the whole night). Communication was difficult, and I think I injured her half-way through FS. After the injury, things went downhill fast. She ended up finishing me off with BBBJ and HJ. Lesson learned. She no English, me no do. Next night at same KTV, picked another girl. This one spoke English very well. Not only that, but guys when I tell you she was sizzlin' I'm not exaggerating. Nineteen yrs, straight black hair down to her asscrack, 5'4", petite, no fat, perky tits. I was awestruck. The girl the night before was an 8-9 for me. This girl was a 9-10. Beautiful face. She wanted to leave immediately after I picked her. How much? Standard 2000 RMB whole night. I couldn't resist. She was very service-oriented. Showered with me first. Then BBBJ and FS twice. She was all about pleasing me, really in to it.

Afterwards, told me she was my "second wife" and to call her whenever I want. I'm thinking future freebies. We slept. Then I left town for a short trip outside Shanghai. Come back two nights later and call her. She comes to my hotel dressed to kill. Best shag of my life. No freebie, same price, but okay. I continued texting her from USA. On my last trip, I spent the entire week with her with a few nights off. We went on regular dates on the town. 6 days/nights total (12000 RMB including laptop I bought for her). No freebies. I paid full price because I wanted to make sure she had no reason to go elsewhere. Will see her again in a few months. Texting every few days. Says she loves me but I'm sure she is a pathological liar. No illusions.

Lessons:

1. Even if the girl is steaming hot, if you can't communicate, the experience will be much less than it would be otherwise. Best to stick with people who can talk to a little. If you can find them.

2. Paying more money can get you exquisite women. I've been through at least two dozen girls at various prices in various cities throughout China and HK. Used saunas, BBS, low-end KTVs. Shelling out some extra kuai can go a long way. I know many of you will say that the girls I was with from this KTV were probably not that great. I will just say I have extremely high standards when it comes to women compared to most other guys I know. And looking at many of the photos posted in this forum, I would say these girls, especially the last one, are on a different level.

Question:

Do the more experienced members here think the price I am paying is totally out of line for this girl? What should the price be for full day/night all you can eat with GFE and extremely hot, young girl in Shanghai? On the one hand, I can afford it and she is definitely worth it to me. On the other, I don't want to be stupid. Thanks in advance!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Ace Gallant
01-12-07, 01:47
Question:

Do the more experienced members here think the price I am paying is totally out of line for this girl? What should the price be for full day/night all you can eat with GFE and extremely hot, young girl in Shanghai? On the one hand, I can afford it and she is definitely worth it to me. On the other, I don't want to be stupid. Thanks in advance!



Good news:

That was a good first post for a newbie!

Bad News:

You over paid!

I want to be very straight with you so that you learn and not make the same mistake again.

The same KTV, with some negotiation skills, you would have got off with 1500 LT. With even more negotiation skills and if you are walking out after 12am, you could have paid only 1000 for LT.

Buying a Notebook computer or other gift does not guarantee a freebie but to some member that is an investment to secure a freebie. To many experience member that is a waste of money because we know well that it will not happen. It is not a matter of whether you can afford it or not; You did not RTFF and thus spoilt the market by overpaying and buying them gift that is not required.

The bad side of it is that the girls will not only not Thanks you for it, she is most likely to be telling her friend or other co-worker at the KTV about this stupid foreigner that she had ripped off.

IMHO: If I want to pay 12,000 to a girl, I would not want to do it and later been called a stupid guy by her. I would give her the money and have her treat me like god! Buying that bad feeling of been ripped off is NOT good. Furthermore I am sure other experience member would cursed at you as you are just like any other wankers on the board that had spoilt the market.

You would have gotten more value for your money.

Enjoy Shanghai!
AG

Carnesseur
01-12-07, 03:06
Thanks for going easy on me, Ace. ;-) I appreciate your candor.

Not sure I agree that I am a "wanker" that "spoilt" the market. But everybody's entitled to his opinion. Humble or not.

By the way another chinese business-owner wanker bought this girl a 750,000 RMB condo in Weihai. So she was spoiled before I got there.

Still your point about paying stupid prices for things is well taken. I'm just still caught up in this supply and demand mentality. Some girls are in higher demand than others because of their looks/abilities. Maybe I am wrong about this girl being in a higher category. But I think one can question whether some girls might be "worth" more than others.

Cheers and thanks again for the info.


Good news:

That was a good first post for a newbie!

Bad News:

You over paid!

I want to be very straight with you so that you learn and not make the same mistake again.

The same KTV, with some negotiation skills, you would have got off with 1500 LT. With even more negotiation skills and if you are walking out after 12am, you could have paid only 1000 for LT.

Buying a Notebook computer or other gift does not guarantee a freebie but to some member that is an investment to secure a freebie. To many experience member that is a waste of money because we know well that it will not happen. It is not a matter of whether you can afford it or not; You did not RTFF and thus spoilt the market by overpaying and buying them gift that is not required.

The bad side of it is that the girls will not only not Thanks you for it, she is most likely to be telling her friend or other co-worker at the KTV about this stupid foreigner that she had ripped off.

IMHO: If I want to pay 12,000 to a girl, I would not want to do it and later been called a stupid guy by her. I would give her the money and have her treat me like god! Buying that bad feeling of been ripped off is NOT good. Furthermore I am sure other experience member would cursed at you as you are just like any other wankers on the board that had spoilt the market.

You would have gotten more value for your money.

Enjoy Shanghai!
AG

Bornma
01-12-07, 05:05
Long time viewer. First time poster.

This thread is interesting to me. So I had to finally say something. I am probably like the other thousands of guys that don't report. Probably because I don't want to try and rationalize what I do when I travel. And I travel the world. Thankfully. Because the US is not good for the hobby anymore.

12,000 RMB and she loves you? Guess what. You have a mistress. The going rate in Shanghai according to this board is 10,000 rmb. My chinese friends say it is 16,000 rmb in shanghai.

Enjoy it. Be realistic. And know she will want to leave China if you are game. If money is a problem. Consider a woman from a smaller town. Start paying per month and she will move to Shanghai if that is where you primarily travel (hoping you will get her out of China someday). This will cost less. Perhaps 6000 rmb per month. And she can be as pretty as any girl in Shanghai.

Watch it though. It will mess with your mind. No matter how tough you are. The Chinese way of "second wife" is fun. But gets to your heart at some point.

Wilde
01-12-07, 07:12
Hello all brothers,

I am at Jia Ding (near Shanghai F1 track), staying at Universal Ever-Rich Hotel. My first time and first day here. Seems very very quiet.

Any brother any advice to find gals here?

Any contact for delivery service?

ThanksToo late for your benefit probably.

I have no idea which hotel you were referring to. The translation of hotel names in China is a joke for someone who is bilingual. But I doubt that there is no action on premise. If it has a KTV or sauna on site, there must be action. If all else fails, head over to a villiage called Hua Qiao, or Flower Bridge for direct translation. Should be within 15 min drive from the F1 track. I don't have detailed direction because that area has seen so much development. But it should appear on a recent road map and all the locals in Jia Ding know where it is. There are two or three hotels there that have KTV facility on site. Price (sitting with you 150/ST 250-300/LT400-500) and selection is comparable to average SZ/DG. I remember at the HuaQiao Hotel KTV, there is this area away from the KTV rooms overlooking the dance floor that you can bring the XiaoJie of your choice to have a "chat" in private, where you sit in sort of a comfy carriage seating and be creative.

Jia Ding and Song Jiang are the areas that are far away from the apparatus of the government of both Shanghai and Jiang Su province. Besides that, there are supposedly over 200K Taiwanese and Japanese men working for companies that have relocated to these areas. Therefore there must be supplies to meet the demand. The reason for lower prices is probably due to the fact that these are mostly salaryman, not all high rollers. In fact the girls are very creative with nicknames for the frugal customers. The downside to this area is that westerners are still rare sightings and english ability is next to nil, and you will need your own wheels to get there.

Aisin Gioro
01-12-07, 08:44
Gentlemen,

Finally I can post something like this!

Last night I was taken by one of the local staff members in my office to get some BBS girls. At first I thought we would go to some of the many parlours around the Jing An area, but he insisted that the parlours downtown had a more limited variety and the price was higher than some other area he knew. Besides, my idea was to bring the girl home and have an overnight service, which he said would be more difficult to get downtown (as I posted a couple of days ago, no take home in the parlours near my apartment).

We took the subway to the guy's parents', had an excellent home made Chinese dinner, and after some coffee to make time until the rush hour was over, we jumped into the guy's car and drove all the way down to Hang Hua Xin Cun (航华新村), immediately south-east to the Hongqiao Airport. I guess it's a long way to go by taxi, especially if you want to take home as I did, as it will end up being more expensive than the girl, but driving after 8 pm was smooth and easy. Of course for those staying around the Airport it's extremely convenient.

The area reminded me of the typical Chinatown in many Western cities: the gate greeting your entrance and a few grid-like streets with shops and so, nothing big. In this case the shops are mainly massage parlours, but they don't even pretend it to be legit, although there are a few that are, and the negotiations are direct and open and the money changes hands right outside of the shops, on the street walkways.

My friend was definitely right: the girls are much much hotter and younger there than in the venues downtown, the variety was just mindblowing, with most shops showing eight to ten girls, the services are complete and the prices are more than reasonable, even after laowei taxes. ST in the premises was 130 before negotiation, 200 plus taxi to take home, and LT take home 400, plus taxi. As I said, more than reasonable given the quality and variety. We were even introduced to a couple of girls that were into anal sex, something very rare in these latitudes.

In total, we visited around twelve shops to check a representative portion of the girls available, but after checking the first six I had already decided that there were too many and too hot, so it didn't make much sense to me to keep searching. We arranged it with the papasan (each shop has it's own street tout outside, you negotiate with him) for me to take one of those Sichuan hotties home for LT at the above mentioned price, and to keep her for me until my friend was done with the window shopping.

After a while, my colleague drove us to my apartment in Jing An (that's called Chinese caring for the guests) and we proceeded. We had a relaxed time, taking it easy and playfully (she was extremely young, officially 18... though I have my doubts, and the papasan said something that... well, forget about it) from 10 pm until she left around 5.30 am. The deal was that she would stay for as long as I wanted until today. But me being an office man and she being used to stay up until very late everynight, could'n agree about sleeping or staying up watching Chinese soap operas, so finally we decided that she'd better go. Anyway, after the marathon, today I was officially sick due to some shit I must have eaten somewhere for dinner...

Practical stuff:

1. I got kind of mesmerized by this "simple beauty" chick at the parlour. I must be a lousy poker player, because the tout obviously noticed that and took advantage trying to make me pay in advance. I admitted my bad move and felt obliged to go through some deserved self punishment and negotiated to pay half and half. As any fellow monger knows: you never, ever, pay in advance. Sigh.

2. Anyway, we hit jackpot with this shop, because actually the papasan was a cool guy, especially after my colleague forced me to speak some Chinese so he could see that I had been around and could communicate to some limited extend with the girl or something like that. Some other touts wanted 500 and even 600 for the LT take away, plus taxi, or limited the LT to six hours. Actually the normal deal is that if you get the girl at midnight, you pay 400 for six hours, but if you take her before midnight, you pay 500, but you pay for six hours too. Here my friend's local style and some negotiation skills played an important role.

3. An inflection point in our negotiation was when I produced the broken Mandarin for: I'm not a new hand! (我不是新手啊!wo bu shi xin shou a!). Even my colleague was surprised and laughed a lot at it. I got that from the language thread, I think. Even if I didn't get it from there, I strongly recommmend you guys to take a look at it!

4. I don't know the exact location of this particular place, but I don't think it's important. Just take your time checking all the shops (or as many as you can before giving up) and talking to the papasans and you will find out. This guy was in her late 50s, maybe his 60s already, thin and brown, like most papasans. The dude in the shop next to his was a young guy in his 20s, bad attitude and a long, nasty, project of a goatie, and the one next to the young guy's was one of those smaller, darker and hairier Chinese guys with a full moustache and beard in his late 30s or maybe in his 40s (I suck at guessing Asian people's ages). Another nice and reasonable guy.

5. When you take home, lock the door and hide the keys. Also hide you money and other stuff. My personal technique includes leaving three or four hundreds on some obvious place, like the living room table, plus my European mobile phone and some (useless) papers that look more or less important. At the same time, I take the chance to lock the door, hide the keys and the important stuff when she is in the shower. Nothing that you guys don't know already. I think it's important to do it like this just for the sake of the athmosphere. Locking the door and taking stuff away from here in front of her nose is kind of an athmosphere killer, isn't it?

6. I think next time I can go there by myself, at least to the shop I got my chick from. Especially because there's no doubt that they will remember the laowei, as White people are a rarity in that place. But definitely you need to be introduced to the place by some local.

7. Don't fall in love for them! This has been mentioned many times before, and it's a sticky. But I feel the urge to repeat it. Lucky me, this girl doesn't have a phone (she showed me her bag and it was true), which think about it, is sort of dangerous when you do in room services, girl! But, still she insisted that I went to the shop soon to pick her up again and that she would come home with me, even though my place is very far from there. Also, lucky me that I don't have a car, but I do have a terrible sense of orientation and can't remember the shop.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Unknown One
01-12-07, 12:22
Thanks for going easy on me, Ace. ;-) I appreciate your candor.

Not sure I agree that I am a "wanker" that "spoilt" the market. But everybody's entitled to his opinion. Humble or not.

By the way another chinese business-owner wanker bought this girl a 750,000 RMB condo in Weihai. So she was spoiled before I got there.

Still your point about paying stupid prices for things is well taken. I'm just still caught up in this supply and demand mentality. Some girls are in higher demand than others because of their looks/abilities. Maybe I am wrong about this girl being in a higher category. But I think one can question whether some girls might be "worth" more than others.

Cheers and thanks again for the info.

I think the wanker and spoilt comments were referring to the fact that when people overpay, they raise the bottom line price up. Imagine this girl you know could not manage to get 2000 rmb a day on any regular job. If she is from a village she couldnt even make that much money a month. Now you give her 12000 a week, well that is what she expects to be paid from now on. But unless she becomes yours permanantely (which she might want to be) because to her its like winning the lottery. She cannot expect to get the same amount next week. But now she has found you, she is going to cling on to you. Regarding the Chinese business man that paid a 750k condo, congrats because another girl has won the lottery.
The people on this board act sort of like central banks, they scrutinize market values, as well as try their best to keep inflation under control. Every once in awhile a spike occurs, and those are times when a girl randomly wins said lottery. Believe me, these stories circulate and every girl out there is hoping she will win it too. But winning the lottery isnt calculated in the average income index is it?

Riku58
01-12-07, 13:23
Fuzimiao

Thks yr advise re Purple Mountain Hotel but need some more advise.

For the body massage in room, will i expect body to body massage? What would i expect as extras and how much / how long?

About young girls offering services around the hotel. Is it safe to bring them back to the hotel? How much are the prices for L/T or S/T?

Which discos / nightclubs do you recommend to pick up girls with qualirty for S/T or L/T? What are the going prices?

Appreciate your assistance and input.

Albert Punter
01-12-07, 13:45
Very frankly I believe what you spent is not worthwhile.
There is no woman who deserves a man to waste that much money just for sex.
Irrespective of what you can afford to pay, which many here could, or worth she had in your eyes, or cock.
Even high standards you mention don’t mean anything, as many times we discuss about how good looking is that girl and how bad looking is that other one. You know it all depends on personal taste. Then ability in bed again it may depend on chemistry between the two partners: a girl who is sizzling for you, may be a steak for me.

Furthermore, I disagree when you say that “Paying more money can get you exquisite women”. Sometimes contrary is true.
In the past, on some occasion mistakenly I had spent a lot of money for p4p, but I got nothing.
Here in Shanghai, I don’t spend money and I can assure you that I sleep very often with exquisite women, in look, in company and in sexual passion. At least they are such for me.

Bonzo1
01-12-07, 14:29
Kudos to you man! Great job getting the girl of your dreams (well, at least dream of the moment). Great report too - a fun read. Be sure to keep us posted on how it goes!

As far as "spoiling the market", balderdash. It's a paranoia-driven bugaboo - i.e. it doesn't make economic sense and it doesn't and isn't going to happen. If anything it's good for the market because it spreads stories of opportunity for the girls, which effectively is a carrot on a stick...and kudos to both the girls and their sponsors when these dreams become reality (albeit not too frequently -- but if it were more frequent then great).

Anyhoo, on the subject, the real value of discussing prices on this board is the sharing of the knowledge of going rates so that we don't get ripped off (much like the old Xiang Yang market, where btw some idiots would pay 1000 RMB for something you could get for 100, but that didn't "spoil" the market, of course, since there was still seller surplus at 100). Meanwhile, there are plenty of opportunities at all budget levels out there (even lowly local construction workers are getting P4P here) and that's not gonna change any time soon, regardless of your actions, my actions, or even the actions of hundreds or even thousands of so-called "wankers".

You are 100% right about supply in demand, btw, which is a reality anywhere in an unregulated market. And if you wanna pay "extra" to get what you want then go for it! You certainly don't owe anyone an apology for it, and quite frankly IMHO I give kudos to those who can and do pay more.

Certinaly no ill intent here to anyone, but I hope the point eases people's concerns and irrational fears and helps us to get back to the real reason we're in the game! :)

Cheers,

-B-


Thanks for going easy on me, Ace. ;-) I appreciate your candor.

Not sure I agree that I am a "wanker" that "spoilt" the market. But everybody's entitled to his opinion. Humble or not.

By the way another chinese business-owner wanker bought this girl a 750,000 RMB condo in Weihai. So she was spoiled before I got there.

Still your point about paying stupid prices for things is well taken. I'm just still caught up in this supply and demand mentality. Some girls are in higher demand than others because of their looks/abilities. Maybe I am wrong about this girl being in a higher category. But I think one can question whether some girls might be "worth" more than others.

Cheers and thanks again for the info.

Eazy Guy
01-12-07, 15:55
Since our bro here have paid high for the girl and he got what he paid for, just take it easy. Maybe we should think in this way, if any of our bros so happen to meet this girl in the future, just tell her "I know Carnesseur, a guy who have bought you a laptop and paid you RMB12k for 6 nights" and ask for some discount from her. By the way, could I know what is the name of the KTV and what is the girl's name? I will go and do an inspection and post a report to justify the value of the girl. ;P

Cheers,
eg

Travelers25
01-12-07, 17:14
Is the Shanghai Hotel a one shot only deal or does 90 mins mean as many times as you can manage?It is "all you can eat". The girls may either raise eyebrows if you attempt to top world records or take it on as a personal challenge. I have had both responses :)

Munk305
01-12-07, 18:04
1 month salary - factory worker 1000 RMB

Paying so much = loosing the girls respect.

I hope you are a local pimp trying to lift up the prices, that makes sense!

I pay from 130-200 ST 300 400 LT GF like (I speak fair potunghua)

I picked her. How much? Standard 2000 RMB whole night. I couldn't resist. She was very service-oriented. Showered with me first. Then BBBJ and FS twice. She was all about pleasing me, really in to it.

days/nights total (12000 RMB including laptop I bought for her). No freebies. I paid full price because I wanted to make sure she had no reason to go elsewhere. Will see her again in a few months. Texting every few days. Says she loves me but I'm sure she is a pathological liar. No illusions.

Wilde
01-12-07, 22:53
Here is a map for this Hang Hua Xin Cun, as indicated by the "orange explosion".

I have annotated the Hong Qiao (domestic) airport, the Shanghai Zoo and the Yan An Xi Lu (Yan An Road West), the yellow road. It is bordered by A9 and A20 (green highway) basically. I am sure you folks who drive in Shanghai can figure out the direction and the highway exits. I admit that you are a braver man than I am to drive in Shanghai. Once the taxi I was in smashed into a cyclist, and I didn't even have to pay for the fare. That got rid of any desire to drive in Shanghai for a long time. I have driven in Paris, New York and near Rome (the worst) and have enjoyed them all. But not in Shanghai, my birthplace.

BTW, has anyone come across a digitized Shanghai map in English?

Rob Hay
01-12-07, 23:41
Ok guys...finally coming to Shanghai for work. I've browsed this board, pm all the member and read damn near ever post on this board. Now I'm ready to do this and will report on the KTV at Golden bell tower, Suana at Urumugi and nanjing, as well as the village if i ever get out there.

Anyone also into town game to tag team the freebies at Park 97 and Attica let me know...I'm in town til Friday then off to Seoul and India and will be back the following week to enjoy some more. Dont want to hang out with anyone from work as I dont want them to know what the hell I'm up to

River146
01-13-07, 00:04
I have been there for lot of times in end last year. I tried bits of girls there. Can not describe it in few sentance since girls servvice are really denpends on person. After there for long time, I get more and more close relationship with their manager (shanghai is my hometown, even if I have left for long time, this may be another reason so that manager treat me as local poeple). one day, the manage said that he will arrange a double service for me. He assigned two in #868 and #839 to me. and tell me that 868 is the coach for all girls working there. That time is reely different experience for me. girl 839 is come from Hunan and just arrive there for first week. When she is lying in the bad, sometime looks like chinese movie star Liu Yifei:) and girl 868 looks like teach 839 how to do the job.

I highly recommend the service from 868. She can do evrything for you! The evrything here means really applied all the thing you get from other girls. it is real meaning of full service. The best FBSM skill which touch you everywhere those other girl maybe just reach part of them, tongue bath from my eachtoe to deep ass, longest red rope time and fastest rotation in the action, V massage, BBBJTCIM and DFK that most of girl do not offer in Yu Ping.

BTW, girl 839 also become my favor not only her facelook. She is very ticklish girl. I like to tickle her while action.

The Yu ping and Waves are owned by same owner. the price may little differ between local and others. But if you get familiar with manager, you absolutely get lower price for it.

Zarkoff
01-13-07, 04:13
Haven't visited Waves in a long time... any update? I see there was some discussion of it being renovated, or closed down or something? Appreciate the help!

Aisin Gioro
01-13-07, 06:08
Hi, gents,

First of all, excuse me for the newbie screwup typing Chinese in parentheses. As you see, the name of the area is 航华新村 Hang2hua2 Xin1 Cun1.

About the location, let me try to be more specific, because due to the forum restrictions I think the map I prepaired is a bit too small to appreciate the names and other details.

- On the upper-right corner of the map you can see "Jing An" written in red letters. Two yellow coloured roads make a hub there: the one going North to South is the so called "North-South elevated road" (Chengdu North road until it reaches the hub from the North, Chongqing Road south from it). The one going East to West is Yan An Road.

- Follow Yan An Road Westwards (left) and you will see "Chang Ning" in red letters. On my map we are travelling from the upper right to the bottom left corners.

- Stay on Yan An road, and keep going until it ends in the Hongqiao Airport, just past near Shanghai Zoo (a green area on the map). Both names are written in English in red letters.

- Two green coloured expressways form a big hub here. North to South it's the West Ring #1 a.k.a. expressway A20 and 杯西一大道 (A20 公路 ). Stemming from Yan An road, the hub goes West in the form of expressway A9 (A9 公路 ).

- Notice that, as a result, A20 and A9 define a corner in the bottom left section of the map: Hanghua Xin Cun appears squared in red.

Taxi fee:

No idea. My friend drove me there and back to my apartment in his car. I gave 100 to the girl when she was leaving, but that included the well deserved tip (alright, I confess: I only had 100 RMB bills at that very moment. Hope that doesn't make me a market spoiling wanker...)

You can make a rough guess on the distance from your place and then apply the standard taxi fares: I guess it's 10 to 12 kilometers from Plaza 66 ( ? ). Or if you ever take taxis to go to Hongqiao airport, it should be more or less the same (I haven't done that yet, so I can't tell you).

Anyway, I think that discards taxis as a reasonable option for the downtown area dwelling monger unless he shares, but still I guess it'd be around 50/60 RMB per head round trip if it's two of them (for the LT take home service, two mongers plus two girls) or half that making full use of the taxi (four mongers) and going for the ST service in the venue premises. Definitely the worst move is one monger going for home ST service. But hey, I would rather do that than using the backroom at the shop (generally speaking). Or I would just stay home and make the five guys beat the baldy.

Note: my Chinese pal added another reason to avoid taxi: he says some taxi drivers go vigilante sometimes and after dropping you at your destination (and getting their money) call the police, which can or cannot lead to problems. I don't think the Gong An would do much in this case, as there has to be some sort of big deal going on in such an obvious, public case of mass prostitution. But still.

If any of you guys needs the bigger, clearer version of the map, drop me a line and I'll send it to you via email.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Aisin Gioro
01-13-07, 06:27
Excuse me for posting two different messages, but after writing the last one I forgot what I wanted to ask:

Has anybody, a part from the authors of the original reports, checked the Urumqi Lu and Jin Ding Saunas? It'd be nice to read alternative opinions and descriptions.

I wanted to check them personally a.s.a.p., but one thing for another, I haven't found the moment yet.

Bonzo1
01-13-07, 08:24
I posted on something similar a while back. I know of only two places in SH that offer this:

1. Tertiary Liesure Time, Shanxinan lu near zhaojiabang lu (big place, can't miss it). Massage is pretty good, place is very clean and professionally run, and HJ is often great -- no rush. Cost for oil massage + HJ is about 230 RMB.

2. The place across from the Hilton. I think the tip they ask for is 300 RMB, can maybe negotiate down to 200 RMB (I seem to remember doing that a couple times). Place is not so clean, but not totally horrible either (better than a BBS in my opinion).

Anyone know of any other places like these? Also, anyone know a good place from which to order-in (other than "Body Massage" which I won't use because I think the guy that runs it is a criminal and possibly dangerous).

Fly Surfing
01-13-07, 09:26
Dear Bonzo1,

Thanks for theses adresses.

I know Teritary Massage. This place is nice and the handjob always nice. The problem the girl stay with her clothes.

But I am looking for something more. I mean I like the idea to come and just be in the flow. Nothing to ask the the massage you want.

So my meaning. Do you know a place like this one where is it possible to receive a blow job during the massage?

I hope you know a place like this.

Thanks

Fly Surfing

Monkey King
01-13-07, 09:45
Half a block north of Territary Leisure Time on the east side of the street is a brightly lit massage place is an 'X.S.' on its sign. They used to offer the Jiffy Lube. 130 + 100rmb tip. They are newly remodeled now... looks much nicer.


I posted on something similar a while back. I know of only two places in SH that offer this:

1. Tertiary Liesure Time, Shanxinan lu near zhaojiabang lu (big place, can't miss it). Massage is pretty good, place is very clean and professionally run, and HJ is often great -- no rush. Cost for oil massage + HJ is about 230 RMB.

2. The place across from the Hilton. I think the tip they ask for is 300 RMB, can maybe negotiate down to 200 RMB (I seem to remember doing that a couple times). Place is not so clean, but not totally horrible either (better than a BBS in my opinion).

Anyone know of any other places like these? Also, anyone know a good place from which to order-in (other than "Body Massage" which I won't use because I think the guy that runs it is a criminal and possibly dangerous).

Smorb 27
01-13-07, 10:14
BTW, has anyone come across a digitized Shanghai map in English?This one was posted here a while ago and is pretty good:

http://www.smartshanghai.com/maps/smsh_map.php

It has this feature "map it" which allows to share map points in Shanghai.

Riku58
01-13-07, 19:01
Hello friends,

Visiting Sh. in one week. Staying at the Purple Mountain Hotel.

Appreciate any advise about services in the Hotel or in the neighbourhood.

Any nearby discos for take away? Prices for both LT / St appreciated.

What abt girls in nearby streets, it is safe to take them back to the hotel? Prices?
Recommended Massage parlours.

Thanks in advance for the advise. Will post my experience.

Munk305
01-13-07, 21:41
Try this http://www.shanghaiguide.com/map/shanghai.pdf


Here is a map for this Hang Hua Xin Cun, as indicated by the "orange explosion".

I have annotated the Hong Qiao (domestic) airport, the Shanghai Zoo and the Yan An Xi Lu (Yan An Road West), the yellow road. It is bordered by A9 and A20 (green highway) basically. I am sure you folks who drive in Shanghai can figure out the direction and the highway exits. I admit that you are a braver man than I am to drive in Shanghai. Once the taxi I was in smashed into a cyclist, and I didn't even have to pay for the fare. That got rid of any desire to drive in Shanghai for a long time. I have driven in Paris, New York and near Rome (the worst) and have enjoyed them all. But not in Shanghai, my birthplace.

BTW, has anyone come across a digitized Shanghai map in English?

Zarkoff
01-14-07, 06:24
Well decided to try the Waves as its been months since I was there. Read with great interest all the goings and comings, so to speak. But I didn't realize it had moved! Panic at first as the old place is being gutted, but there is a new sign with an arrow and there it was. The folks actually remembered me and more of the management types spoke English (my Chinese is stinko). The usual fair, that is the foot massage with lots of extra massaging, was great. Everything is well appointed and everyone is friendly. Had a devil of a time to convince the drink girl I need to go to the bathroom before my lady arrived, and a second one came along that figured it out right away! Price as quoted here, no upselling, 525 RMB and although a bit pricey, its well worth the money as you are assured of a well run operation, clean, and the lady seemed interested in doing a good job. Number 703, BTW. What a cutie.... would love to see her further! Happy hunting!

Bonzo1
01-14-07, 10:20
The only place I know of like this (and actually I've never been there) is "the pub" on xinzha lu (I think), which no longer can be named on this board. I too would like to know of a place like this.

Sometimes the whole sauna ordeal is just too much time, effort, procedural, etc - while a massage with a BJ is always relaxing!

Here's to hoping someone knows!



Dear Bonzo1,

So my meaning. Do you know a place like this one where is it possible to receive a blow job during the massage?

Fly Surfing

Albert Punter
01-14-07, 18:12
Here we are with a selection of maps

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=504099&postcount=6813




BTW, has anyone come across a digitized Shanghai map in English?

Albert Punter
01-14-07, 18:15
Basing on my experience you don't get massage there.
However, you can get BJ and FS.


The only place I know of like this (and actually I've never been there) is "the pub" on xinzha lu (I think), which no longer can be named on this board. I too would like to know of a place like this.

Dog Day
01-15-07, 01:16
This is the same "Village" in Wu Zhong Lu /Hang Zhong Lu.
Couple of new BBS. Picked a cute sichuan bunny last saturday.
Usual ST of 200 plus taxi.

Superforce99
01-15-07, 08:55
Was in Shanghai for a short trip last week and decided to do a little sauna competition/comparison. I’m based in Zhuhai so I have relatively easy access to the cornucopia of Zhuhai/Shenzhen/Guangzhou/Dongguan/Hong Kong/Macau saunas.

I was staying right on the busy shopping street of Nanjing Road, about a 5 minute walk from Plaza 66. Using the ISG’s search function in the Shanghai section (typing “sauna” and then finding specific addresses), I was stoked to find Travler25’s post about a sauna within walking distance of my location, located on 209 Urumuqi Road, at the corner of Urumuqi Road and Nanjing West Road. When members advise RTFF, it’s because it works!

I had an interesting street experience before being able to get to the sauna. I was freezing my ass off walking along the street around 11:30pm so I bought a cup of hot coffee to enjoy while checking out the fake purses and DVDs for sale along Nanjing Road. Damn, at about 10-10:30pm, a virtual army of street sellers take over the famous shopping road, enough that there was literally one fake purse merchant and a partnering DVD merchant every 100 meters or so. Two gals who couldn’t have been more than 15 or 16 suddenly came up to me and asked me for money to buy “bread and train tickets home” home. I had to control my laughter because I’ve experienced this kind of scam in Guangdong many times. Since it was cold as hell, I thought I would take it easy on them. I spoke in Chinese to them and pretended to empathize with their plight, much to their delight. I ended up going into some convenience store to buy them “bread” as they requested but that ended up translating into FOUR packages of Chips Ahoy cookies.

At this point I firmly said to the two gals, “Hey, that’s not bread. And there are only two of you. So this is the kind of game you’re playing?!” I withdrew two bags of cookies, leaving two on the counter. At this point, I noticed the “Okomoto 0.03 Condoms” for sale in a little display near the counter. Wow, 40 RMB for 3 condoms? But still, they are worth it if you want the best condom experience and a few extra RMB doesn’t bother you. And yes, the two girls noticed my interest in the condoms with obvious unease, ha ha…

I bought the cookies for them and continued walking toward the sauna. The two girls kept pestering me the whole time to give them an additional 70 RMB each for train tickets back to some village in Hunan. Finally, after I finished my coffee and a few blocks before I reached the sauna, I stopped and explained that I knew they were running a scam and I felt pity for them so I bought them something to eat but this was the end of the line, no more handouts from me. They protested innocence, ofcourse, and continued pestering me until I “offered” to help them by calling the police, after which they hurried off.

Got to the KTV place, just as Traveler described. Now the interesting thing is that you HAVE to tell the people manning the elevators you want to go to the 5th floor because there is some private switch they will press for you that calls up the correct (right-side) elevator. The other elevator only goes to the KTV.

After getting up to the 5th floor, I notice that the place is pretty plush and medium-to-high end in terms of decoration (ie., this wasn’t going to be cheap). They greeted me in Japanese…then Korean…then laughed when I started speaking to them in Chinese. That combined with the fact that classic Japanese music is softly playing in the background confirms that this place serves a lot of foreigners, primarily non-Chinese Asians.

You are given a numbered tag, then deposit your shoes into a locker, then are shown into a plush living room where you have a private locker for your stuff. I changed into the clean set of PJs and was shown into a room. Reading Traveler’s reports, I knew that I should have been shown a lineup with a two-way mirror separating the gals and myself. The captain explained that every girl was completely booked except for one and I could take her or wait about 30 minutes for some others to be free. I decided to take Ms. Available Now. Confirmed that service was 700 RMB for 70 minutes with no payment necessary to the girl directly (and since I didn’t have my wallet, I couldn’t pay or tip her anyway).

I was shown to a medium-to-high end sauna room with a narrow bed and generous shower facilities that also had a huge red pleather massage table for soapie body washes. The girl comes in and she looks acceptable, about a 6. About 5’5 tall, 120 lbs, decent 32C breasts, and OK body. Native Shanghai gal, forgot her name but she is #26. Chatted a bit and was somewhat friendly but professional. I just let her do her routine to see how she would treat a new customer.

Starts with a mutual shower that is normal followed by an extensive soapie body wash. I usually don’t like bushy pussies, but her light pussy afro was extremely useful during this soapie as after a thorough breast wash, she follows with a thorough pussy wash, with the pussy hair feeling exactly like a loofah or gentle washing apparatus, ha ha…And I have to emphasize that her washing routine was extensive, probably from 30-40 minutes. This is followed by a thorough cat bath on your whole body, anal rimming, fire/ice BBBJ, and then CFS. She didn’t seem to be wasting time, just doing her routine, so if you want to get down to as much fucking as possible, you should tell your gal to skip the other stuff. I probably had only 20 minutes left for the actual fucking which was fine for me since it was my first time and I wanted to see what the whole package consisted of. She was surprisingly tight and was pretty passionate and did whatever positions I wanted. Not GFE but got good, professional service that I expected. She didn’t make any attempt to engage in another FS after first pop, though there wasn’t much time left.

After a mutual shower, the call came to the room to tell us time was up and she led me back to my plush private room and she departed. The captain came in and asked about her service and I honestly explained that it wasn’t as good as what Traveler described nor did I see a lineup. He said he apologized but it was a very busy time (about midnight on a Friday) and there were no other girls to choose from earlier. He even inquired who Traveler’s girl was, and I described her according to his report and he knew who she was immediately (she is #8 at this place). He offered to show me a lineup of the girls who were free now so I sat in a room with a large plate glass two-way mirror separating me from the girls. It was basically like seeing a police-line up...

There were about 6 girls, including #26 who I just finished with. Overall, the quality of the gals are just average, with looks about 4-7, on par with what I call the “B-team lineup” that most saunas in South China show you first. These would be the gals that haven’t had much business, are new, not as pretty, etc. I couldn’t imagine any of these gals working in more upscale saunas in South China that charge the same price. I did feel better after seeing the lineup because there wasn’t any other gal that I would have definitely chosen over my gal. I saw Traveler’s gal, #8, also and I wouldn’t have guessed she had fake breasts or gave great service from her plain looks. And the one light-skinned Xinjiang girl was in the “very plain” dipping into the “ugly” zone. I guess if you just gotta do a Xinjiang gal, that option is offered here.

I went back to the plush private room and asked the captain to call in a foot massage girl. “For a foot massage??” he replied incredulously. He made the motion for HJ and I shook my head in negative response. I guess nobody actually got real foot massages here…ha ha…after about 10 minutes, some early 30s woman came in and sat down and started massaging my feet. No water soak or anything. When I asked, she said since I already just had sauna service, my feet are already clean and soaked. Ridiculous, but I wanted a foot massage, so I let her continue and her skills were pretty good. 45 minutes for 75 RMB, ouch.

As she was giving the foot massage, topics got directed to where I was staying, was I alone, blah blah blah…She looked like a Chinese Barbara Streisand with bad teeth so I had no intention to fuck her, even for free. Well, maybe for free, but even then, no kissing. I asked her what time she got off, which turned out to be immediately after my foot massage; how convenient. I asked her to come to my hotel room and she coyly asked for what purpose. I uncoyly said sex. And she ridiculously said,

“OK, but you’ll need to pay me.”

”How much?”

“How much will you give me?”

“Whatever you want.”

“5000 RMB. Is that OK?”

I didn’t know whether to laugh or to kick her or both, but since my foot was nice and relaxed, I laughed. Then I started getting dressed into my own clothes while she frantically tried to bargain. She said she never went out with customers, she was married and would need to bring home a large amount of money to justify it to her husband (!), and she like me, blah blah blah…

Finally, she offered to set me up with a “nice, clean girl”. I said I wanted to see this nice, clean girl and she said OK and made a call on her mobile phone. She said to wait for 5 minutes and then I told her I would go pay and leave and she could call me when the gal came, since my hotel was only a few minutes walk away. As I went to the front counter to pay, I notice that it really is closing time for everyone and my foot massage Streisand wasn’t lying. All the sauna gals were lounging around, smoking cigarettes, looking ugly and harsh in the light, and faces mean and ready to fight or something. Reminded me of the pool hall scene at the beginning of Michael Jackson’s “Beat It” video. Also, I noticed that my wallet got much lighter after paying 700 RMB + 75 RMB.

Suddenly, massage Streisand peaked her head from around a corner and motioned for me to come over. She wanted me to see the “nice, clean gal” which turned out to be…a sauna girl I had seen earlier in the lineup. Again, I debated whether to laugh or to kick her, but it was late and I was tired, so I laughed and walked into the elevator and left. Streisand called my mobile several times until I turned it off and went to sleep.

Shanghai is a great place and I love the look, energy, and feel of the city but the saunas can’t really compare to the options in South China. From the posts, I bet the BBS scene is great though. For now, I’ll chalk up the Shanghai sauna scene as something I would save for brining a foreign buddy to for absolutely safe, guaranteed service.



Johnny

PS. For additional details, just RTFF and find Traveler’s post (hint: it was posted in mid December 2006), just like I did. The forum search works and should takes less than 5 minutes of your time.

King Jack
01-15-07, 14:14
[QUOTE= Price as quoted here, no upselling, 525 RMB and although a bit pricey, its well worth the money [/QUOTE]Hi Zarkoff,

Was it 525 or 925?

AsianLover
01-15-07, 16:28
I am traveling to Shanghai next month and will be staying at the HJ. I wanted to know what is the best sauna within walking distance of my hotel. I don't speak mandarin, so any help as to protocol, etc. would be helpful.

AL

Bored2676
01-15-07, 17:25
Hi people,

I will be in Shanghai next week and staying at the Shangrila Pudong. Any good places nearby for some good fun?

Would appreciate any tips. Its my first time in China and I want a memorable experience.

Thanks all

Albert Punter
01-15-07, 17:41
Pardon my ignorance, but which hotel do you mean by HJ ?

Only HJ we know in this forum is what is listed under abbreviations.


I am traveling to Shanghai next month and will be staying at the HJ. I wanted to know what is the best sauna within walking distance of my hotel. I don't speak mandarin, so any help as to protocol, etc. would be helpful.

AL

Travelers25
01-15-07, 17:50
Great to see an alternate perspective on a place you've been. I will admit that I may have had a bit of the rose-coloured glasses on because I got on quite well with the manager who was quite obviously service-oriented and customer-friendly (which Johnnykon might agree with). Also, I hadn't been to the in-room bath bed before, and I will definitely put that a step higher than a sauna without that feature. I'd definitely shell out 700 versus a cheap 150 quickie in a sketchy back room. Now, I do want to try out Waves though.

Ouch, you put a hurtin' on my hunny, #8. But she's still a sweetie in my eyes, and a better looking one at the Shanghai Hotel that I'd gone to a couple times was a little too "pro" for me. If you have combination of looks, body, and personality to go down south, I will have to head down there sooner than later.

Great report, JohnnyK -- now that I've "baselined" you, I look forward to seeing some of your other Shanghai comparisons!

Smorb 27
01-15-07, 18:11
Pardon my ignorance, but which hotel do you mean by HJ ?I guess the Howard Johnson.

@AsianLover: Walking Distance isn't important in Shanghai as Taxis are damn cheap. It's about 1 USD from your Hotel (which is on the middle of Nanjing Road) to Tongren Road, Hilton Hotel etc. A popular spot is the Shanghai Hotel Saune, use the "Taxi Printout" on this page (http://www.smartshanghai.com/venue/2873/Shanghai-Hotel_shanghai) to get there. For more details rtff

If you really want to walk, walk towards north-west from your hotel. This area has a lot bbs.

Tango Foxtwo
01-15-07, 18:53
Long time viewer. First time poster.

12,000 RMB and she loves you? Guess what. You have a mistress. The going rate in Shanghai according to this board is 10,000 rmb. My chinese friends say it is 16,000 rmb in shanghai.

Enjoy it. Be realistic. And know she will want to leave China if you are game. If money is a problem. Consider a woman from a smaller town. Start paying per month and she will move to Shanghai if that is where you primarily travel (hoping you will get her out of China someday). This will cost less. Perhaps 6000 rmb per month. And she can be as pretty as any girl in Shanghai.

Watch it though. It will mess with your mind. No matter how tough you are. The Chinese way of "second wife" is fun. But gets to your heart at some point.Tell me about it! Considering apartment rent, spending monie etc plus depending on your economic status and where you found the girl (KTV - or other) and where the girl is from (Shanghainees, Bejing, etc)...- 12K RMB is middle of the road.

My mistress (Chinese wife) tells me about her friends and all the stories.
Fabulous gifts from lover are over-stated. They out STORY each other to make their friends jelous. Also if you are not living with her, she may have you as Laogong, but may have a part time lover. You may not be her only source. All these story about some lover buy car or mansion for girl is VERY rare - if not fake MOST OF THE TIME. There are some lottery winners, but very very rare.

I only see my mistress 1 week per month. She moves into my hotel while I'm in town. She works at a high end KTV, so I compensate her missing work with gifts (approx 8K).

While I'm in town, she get to live the good life. Lives at Westin, shop at department store, eat very well and gets treated like a movie start by the hotel staff and me.

YES - it some times can get into your heart, but RULE NUMBER ONE - don't fall in love. If you fail, remember rule number two - love is temporary. All good things have an ending, so till it comes - she enjoys comfort and I enjoy being James Bond.

AsianLover
01-15-07, 19:42
I will be staying at the Howard Johnson Hotel. Its address is: 595 jiu Jiang Road
Shanghai 200001 China.

AL

Bornma
01-16-07, 05:36
Tango,

James Bond. Never thought of it that way. But you are right. You hook up with a woman that is 10+ years younger, cute, dresses well, and would impress anyone in the US if you could introduce her. Good command of english, and chinese. Makes the trips to China more bearable. Hell. Much more fun than the other places where no girfriend exists. Nice dinners, someone around when you get done business at the end of the day.

And it does get to you. But you acknowledge that when you were younger and used to date. 99% of relationships failed at some point. So this will surely fail. Of course it is over 1 year now. Hmmm.

With the meals, gifts and money. It isn't a bad lifestyle for her. And she probably has another (but she is good at hiding it). But the second wife concept is unique. Once I got to know my Chinese associates. We had a dinner where everyone brought out the second wife. Really interesting. They have all told me 2 years. And you move on.

Not looking forward to that day. Sometimes I just wish I just stuck to the BBS scene and Tongren Rd for the quick fix. That lifestyle is easy and doesn't mess with your mind as much.

But I am told that I will just have to switch to a new one when the time comes. Follow tradition.

Albert Punter
01-16-07, 13:22
You made same question a week ago and no answers.
Do you wonder why ?

As you are bored, I would like to suggest a pastime: make a search in this thread with word Pudong.
You will find some answers to your question and then we will be more than happy to supply clarifications or more informations.



Hi people,

I will be in Shanghai next week and staying at the Shangrila Pudong. Any good places nearby for some good fun?

Would appreciate any tips. Its my first time in China and I want a memorable experience.

Thanks all

Albert Punter
01-16-07, 13:33
This hotel is in avery good location for mongering.
A few minutes driving distance to all main mongering spots, like: BBS in Changde Lu (check posts and map from AG), the Pub, bars in Tongren Lu, sauna at Shanghai Hotel, Xin Tian Di and many others you may read in these pages.

Enjoy



I will be staying at the Howard Johnson Hotel. Its address is: 595 jiu Jiang Road
Shanghai 200001 China.
AL

Ace Gallant
01-16-07, 13:47
This hotel is in avery good location for mongering.
A few minutes driving distance to all main mongering spots, like: BBS in Changde Lu (check posts and map from AG), the Pub, bars in Tongren Lu, sauna at Shanghai Hotel, Xin Tian Di and many others you may read in these pages.

Enjoy

Quick Update:

Chengde Lu is changed now.... a lot of BBS had been closed down or moved. Some parts of the road had been closed for refurbishment.

AG

Neuromancer
01-16-07, 15:04
Tango,

James Bond. Never thought of it that way. But you are right. You hook up with a woman that is 10+ years younger, cute, dresses well, and would impress anyone in the US if you could introduce her. Good command of english, and chinese. Makes the trips to China more bearable. Hell. Much more fun than the other places where no girfriend exists. Nice dinners, someone around when you get done business at the end of the day.

And it does get to you. But you acknowledge that when you were younger and used to date. 99% of relationships failed at some point. So this will surely fail. Of course it is over 1 year now. Hmmm.

With the meals, gifts and money. It isn't a bad lifestyle for her. And she probably has another (but she is good at hiding it). But the second wife concept is unique. Once I got to know my Chinese associates. We had a dinner where everyone brought out the second wife. Really interesting. They have all told me 2 years. And you move on.

Not looking forward to that day. Sometimes I just wish I just stuck to the BBS scene and Tongren Rd for the quick fix. That lifestyle is easy and doesn't mess with your mind as much.

But I am told that I will just have to switch to a new one when the time comes. Follow tradition.This is actually the first time I've read about mistress prices on this or any other board, which really sparks my curiosity. I suppose that if you meet one that you just HAVE to have for the next month or few, regardless of where (KTV, BBS, Sauna) you can broach the subject? Would the price be different based on where/type of location you found her (different opportunity costs)? I'm actually based down in HK now and assume that the standard rates would be quite a bit higher than Shanghai or Beijing.

Anyway, wouldn't be willing to pay 12k (or even 10k) RMB, but if it were in the say 5-6k/mo range, would have to consider it cause I'm sure that I spend close to that amount per month anyway... wouldn't necessarily mind giving up the variety, assuming that that is compensated with GFE. Of course, having this option on my radar now, guess I'll have to see what I can manage to negotiate.

Getting back to Carnessuer's original post - is 2000RMB really the going rate for KTV takeout nowadays? Haven't had the opportunity of late (don't have the chance to visit Shanghai much these days - plus all my KTV buddies have left SH), but a few years back, I was paying 1000RMB and that was on the generous side (buddies always told me 800RMB standard price, but max 1000 if you really liked her). It always seemed pretty hit or miss in terms of getting true "stunners" (though most are average to slightly above) as the room is dark and they all have high heels on. Remember having one girl stay with me for 3 or 4 days and gave her 2000RMB when I left (she even made a pretense of not wanting the money - I suppose she preferred getting the ticket out of town, which was not gonna happen). Was pretty average in terms of looks/body (WAY too skinny - all her ribs showing through) but was a lot of fun to hang out with - local Shanghainese even, though I've already forgotten the few words which she taught me.

Tango Foxtwo
01-16-07, 17:02
Tango,

James Bond. Never thought of it that way. But you are right. You hook up with a woman that is 10+ years younger, cute, dresses well, and would impress anyone in the US if you could introduce her. Good command of english, and chinese. Makes the trips to China more bearable. Hell. Much more fun than the other places where no girfriend exists. Nice dinners, someone around when you get done business at the end of the day.

And it does get to you. But you acknowledge that when you were younger and used to date. 99% of relationships failed at some point. So this will surely fail. Of course it is over 1 year now. Hmmm.

With the meals, gifts and money. It isn't a bad lifestyle for her. And she probably has another (but she is good at hiding it). But the second wife concept is unique. Once I got to know my Chinese associates. We had a dinner where everyone brought out the second wife. Really interesting. They have all told me 2 years. And you move on.

Not looking forward to that day. Sometimes I just wish I just stuck to the BBS scene and Tongren Rd for the quick fix. That lifestyle is easy and doesn't mess with your mind as much.

But I am told that I will just have to switch to a new one when the time comes. Follow tradition.Brother, you are right. I do not see my second wife relationship lasting more then several seasons. I joked with my mistress that she was my winter love. Spring comes and I'll move on. She volunteered to find my Spring wife - ha ha.

Last week was interesting. It was a lovers party. My mistress and three of her friends all called their Laogong to their club to party. We all met each other and planned to meet privately without the girls. Fun time starts now....

Have you ever seen James Bond with the same girl in two different movies? However, whiles he's with the current lover - he's 100% into her. Then you move on.

Cheers to you and its nice to have brothers in the same situation.

PS. The second wife party was a blast!!! Got even crazy when each of the second wife brought in a girl for us to play with.

Member #2041
01-16-07, 23:19
If I were James Bond, I probably would have had a hard time moving on from Pussy Galore. Just as a matter of principle - since Pussy Galore is pretty much what we are all searching for.

Bornma
01-17-07, 05:06
Neuro,

Curious. Be careful. That is how it starts. And you are rationalizing the same way many of us did.

OK. Here is how it goes: You must travel somewhere on a regular basis for a week at a time, otherwise they don't see this as logical (they won't see you enough). Let's evaluate typical expenses. Typically: Monday night. Must find a woman to kick off the week. $50-100. Tuesday. Relax with friends. Wednesday. Girl time. $50-100. Thursday. Prepare for the weekend. Friday. Girl. $50-100 (just one? . OK). Saturday. No work (girl last night was not good). Get massage. $50-100. At night drink too much get girl again $50-100. Sunday. Getting ready to leave soon. Girl? Maybe. $50. Total for the trip: $300. 450.

How many were good. 50%?

Mistress. $500 (small town). Up to $1500 Shanghai. Per month. Every month. If you are not there. Western union. Because you will be there soon. Prices vary. But GFE. Of course. She is your (girlfriend). Dinners included. But you are on expenses. Yes? Occassional gifts. Small towns are cheaper. But meeting may be more difficult. And there is the problem of english.

The numbers can make sense. And you end up better for meetings in the morning (you have not been out drinking all night searching for a woman that you pick up at 3:00 am and have to get up at 8: 00 for a meeting the next day! ) Perhaps we should be able to expense this to our companies?

Meet them anywhere. Many Chinese women accept this custom. I have a Chinese friend that tells them early that he is married, cannot ever marry them, but will take care of them while they are together. 2 years and move on. He says he loves them "when he is with them".

While rarely discussed. We know it happens around the world at different price points. Get it in Asia while you can afford it. Prices are sure to increase.

Neuromancer
01-17-07, 14:48
ok, so I've been visiting this 141 girl here in HK on a regular basis for the past week (about a 6 in looks, but have alot of fun with her). And asked her the theoretical question about finding a "xiao laopo". She estimated about HKD10k which sort of surprised me cause I thought that HK would be alot more expensive than Shanghai. She basically broke it down as, she would need HKD2k for housing (pretty damn cheap actually for HK. I'm paying 12k) and the remaining 8k for daily expenses and shopping trips. When you think about it, sort of makes sense, cause at the 141 that she is using, she pays HKD10k per month, so she needs about 20-25 customers in a month just to break even. To EARN 10k in a month, she needs another 20-25 customers. So if one guy wants her exclusively for 10k, its basically the equivalent of having to service 40-50 customers. I don't know about you, but there's no way in hell I can have sex 40-50 times in a month (I'm on the wrong side of 30 years old). Plus all her meals, entertainment are paid for.

Based on the above math, I suppose that it would be possible to negotiate down. But of course, it sort of spoils the relationship if not done properly. I suppose the best way to do this would be to actually treat her like a girlfriend before popping the question so to speak. And somehow phrase the question in terms of needing her/missing her/blah blah blah but you don't have that much money. Or else, take the preemptive strike and propose a number first (a little below what you want to pay, assuming that she will counter with a higher number. But not so low as to offend her)

Also, based on the above numbers, seems like it ought to be possible to find one in Shanghai for significantly less. Based on the girls cost structure.

Member #2041
01-17-07, 18:32
I don't know about you, but there's no way in hell I can have sex 40-50 times in a month (I'm on the wrong side of 30 years old). Plus all her meals, entertainment are paid for.

I could, and that's about what I do over the course of a 3-4 week trip to Asia - but then I'm wiped out for 2 weeks when I get back.

Bornma
01-18-07, 03:50
If you have someone you like strike a deal that makes you comfortable. Otherwise you will constantly evaluate the value of what you are doing, and you will have money issues when you "stray" from you girlfriend for others.

HK is great, but should be the same price, or more than Shanghai. Both expensive cities, but you are paying for convenience (speaks english and is suitable for you), versus doing something local.

Just to add some tips that you know since you are in HK, you may want to consider Sunday afternoon "maid" service. I read about this many times and it is true especially in HK.

The disco across the street from "The Bridge" bar on Lockhart Rd in Wanchai starts to kick at 4:00pm with the local maids. They typically need to leave at 8:00pm to catch the last train back.

They want to party have fun and it is free, unless you keep them late and agree to pay a cab to get them home.

Wow, Asia is really fun!

Gualtier Malde
01-18-07, 04:36
I could, and that's about what I do over the course of a 3-4 week trip to Asia - but then I'm wiped out for 2 weeks when I get back.

And which side of 30 are you on, 2041? ;-) Either you are young or your supply of Vitamin V is fresh! :-D

GM

Riku58
01-18-07, 06:28
Hello friends,

Visiting Sh. in one week. Staying at the Purple Mountain Hotel. Pudong area.

Appreciate any advise about services in the Hotel or in the neighbourhood.

Any nearby discos for take away? Prices for both LT / St appreciated.

What abt girls in nearby streets, it is safe to take them back to the hotel? Prices?
ST / LT

Recommended Massage parlours. Prices / Time allowed.

Thanks in advance for the advise. Will post my experience.

Member #2041
01-18-07, 07:06
And which side of 30 are you on, 2041? ;-) Either you are young or your supply of Vitamin V is fresh! :-D

GM

I am 47. And I prefer Vitamin L. I find that without Vitamin L, I can do 1 pop a day (as long as the lady is very attractive) without any chemical assist. Vitamin L allows me 2 pops a day, as well as to maintain my woody for a lady who is more average looking.

Albert Punter
01-18-07, 13:27
Riku,

This is third time you post your request (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=945 and http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=550833&postcount=7685)

Also, we have replied and you have appreciated our answers (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=548663&postcount=7640 and http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=550469&postcount=7668).

What we have to do more ?



Hello friends,

Visiting Sh. in one week. Staying at the Purple Mountain Hotel. Pudong area.

Appreciate any advise about services in the Hotel or in the neighbourhood.

Any nearby discos for take away? Prices for both LT / St appreciated.

What abt girls in nearby streets, it is safe to take them back to the hotel? Prices?
ST / LT

Recommended Massage parlours. Prices / Time allowed.

Thanks in advance for the advise. Will post my experience.

Ace Gallant
01-18-07, 13:39
Riku,

This is third time you post your request (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=945 and http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=550833&postcount=7685)

Also, we have replied and you have appreciated our answers (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=548663&postcount=7640 and http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=550469&postcount=7668).

What we have to do more ?

You guys had been very nice.

Ok... in that case; I have to continue to be the nasty guy;

Riku: Read The Fucking Forum!

I bet you after he arrive in Shanghai and had fun, that will be the last you will hear from him.

Enjoy!
AG

Tango Foxtwo
01-18-07, 16:03
This is actually the first time I've read about mistress prices on this or any other board, which really sparks my curiosity. I suppose that if you meet one that you just HAVE to have for the next month or few, regardless of where (KTV, BBS, Sauna) you can broach the subject? Would the price be different based on where/type of location you found her (different opportunity costs)? I'm actually based down in HK now and assume that the standard rates would be quite a bit higher than Shanghai or Beijing.

Getting back to Carnessuer's original post - is 2000RMB really the going rate for KTV takeout nowadays? .Good question. I've been reading the forum for the last 6 months and only now been active. Back in Seoul, I did the Anma's and the BBS, but never tried in Shanghai. I'm hooked on KTVs.

Prior to my 2nd wive, I've tried many KTVs in Shanghai and in TODAY's price, its 2000 RMB start and negotiate down. In most places, 1500 RMB is the negotiated price. Some high class KTV girls wants no less then 1800 RMB. BTW this is all night - as many pop as you want.

The first time you take her, the girl normally wants to leave prior to 8AM. The second time, its as long as you want her with you. I normally have breakfast, a second pop, rest, lunch then send her home.

Keep in mind the economics of the transaction. 2000 RMB to start, negotiated down to 1500 RMB.

200 to 300 RMB goes to mommies.

Normal tip if you had not taken her back would be 300 to 500 RMB.
The net price for taking her out based on 1500 RMB is is 700 to 1000 RMB for an all nighter!

If you really want to have her be "your" girl, call her next time and "book" the room in her name. She gets a small commission and she get good treatment from the KTV and mommies. Her status goes up.

By this time, you have her number. Call her directly to meet you for dinner. The middle man is out of the picture and she does not have to drink and be tired. She gets dinner and treated like a lady. You can pay her 1000 to 1500 and she'll be happy.

Here's a nice saturday - sunday schedule.

Call her Friday to meet Saturday.

Meet her around 11AM - she will be sleeping till then.
Take her to local hair salon - 30 RMB
Each lunch - 150 RMB
Massage together - 140 RMB
Walk XTD holding hands - drink coffee at starbucks - 40 RMB
Dinner - 300 RMB
Back to hotel by 9PM - fun till your Xiao DiDi hurts
Have breakfast at hotel
One more time for the road
Shower
Pay 1500 RMB
Put her on taxi
She will be texting you how much she loves you
Next time pay 1600 RMB, then 1200 RMB, then 1500 RMB, then 1300.
Dont ask how much, just give her. She will never count in front of you.

Neuromancer
01-18-07, 16:53
If you have someone you like strike a deal that makes you comfortable. Otherwise you will constantly evaluate the value of what you are doing, and you will have money issues when you "stray" from you girlfriend for others.

HK is great, but should be the same price, or more than Shanghai. Both expensive cities, but you are paying for convenience (speaks english and is suitable for you), versus doing something local.

Just to add some tips that you know since you are in HK, you may want to consider Sunday afternoon "maid" service. I read about this many times and it is true especially in HK.

The disco across the street from "The Bridge" bar on Lockhart Rd in Wanchai starts to kick at 4:00pm with the local maids. They typically need to leave at 8:00pm to catch the last train back.

They want to party have fun and it is free, unless you keep them late and agree to pay a cab to get them home.

Wow, Asia is really fun!Well, sorry to get this thread off topic, since this is the Shanghai forum after all. I'll just make two quick comments first:

1) Believe it or not, have NOT been to the Wanchai bars (well, only been to the legitimate drinking holes). Are well aware of them and the reason I haven't gone is that I'm not a fan of "darker Asians", ie Thai, Filipino, Indo. Purely a personal preference that I think alot of other Chinese mongerers share (makes you feel like you're fucking your maid)

2) Don't speak Cantonese but fluent enough in Mandarin so whether the girl speaks English or not doesn't really matter. Actually find it sort of annoying trying to communicate in English since I need to use "baby English"

Point #2 sort of leads me to the following question... would the "second wife" price be lower for a Chinese vs. Westerner? Not saying that a girl would demand more from a Westerner per se... more about being able to communicate effectively. Of course, a Westerner who is fluent in Chinese may be able to get a lower price as well.

Anyway, after my 141 girl explained the rationale from the girl's point of view - seems like 10k for HK seems reasonable. Basically, she earns 8k per month (paying 2k for her own rent) and only has to service one customer. But considering that 8k spending money in HK is not the same as 8k spending money in Shanghai... if the going rate is 10k in Shanghai - then seems like that's overpaying a little. Actually, I would guess that the girl in Shanghai would have more than 8k of spending money cause rents are significantly lower in Shanghai.

Perhaps it's better to negotiate terms on a daily basis. Seems like 1000-1500 for the girl to spend a whole day with you is a more attractive proposition (pricing based on opportunity cost of 2-3 customers for that day). Should be able to get multiple pops while still able to enjoy typical "girlfriend" sort of activities like going to a movie, having dinner, drinking, etc... cause afterall, still need to work and if I reserved for the month, wouldn't be fully utilizing the time paid for.

Munk305
01-18-07, 20:16
Are you disabled?

1800 RMB? The girl must be laughing her ass to rags!

LT is normally 300 - 400 RMB + taxi with Funny GF like girl


Good question. I've been reading the forum for the last 6 months and only now been active. Back in Seoul, I did the Anma's and the BBS, but never tried in Shanghai. I'm hooked on KTVs.

Prior to my 2nd wive, I've tried many KTVs in Shanghai and in TODAY's price, its 2000 RMB start and negotiate down. In most places, 1500 RMB is the negotiated price. Some high class KTV girls wants no less then 1800 RMB. BTW this is all night - as many pop as you want.

The first time you take her, the girl normally wants to leave prior to 8AM. The second time, its as long as you want her with you. I normally have breakfast, a second pop, rest, lunch then send her home.

Keep in mind the economics of the transaction. 2000 RMB to start, negotiated down to 1500 RMB.

200 to 300 RMB goes to mommies.

Normal tip if you had not taken her back would be 300 to 500 RMB.
The net price for taking her out based on 1500 RMB is is 700 to 1000 RMB for an all nighter!

If you really want to have her be "your" girl, call her next time and "book" the room in her name. She gets a small commission and she get good treatment from the KTV and mommies. Her status goes up.

By this time, you have her number. Call her directly to meet you for dinner. The middle man is out of the picture and she does not have to drink and be tired. She gets dinner and treated like a lady. You can pay her 1000 to 1500 and she'll be happy.

Here's a nice saturday - sunday schedule.

Call her Friday to meet Saturday.

Meet her around 11AM - she will be sleeping till then.
Take her to local hair salon - 30 RMB
Each lunch - 150 RMB
Massage together - 140 RMB
Walk XTD holding hands - drink coffee at starbucks - 40 RMB
Dinner - 300 RMB
Back to hotel by 9PM - fun till your Xiao DiDi hurts
Have breakfast at hotel
One more time for the road
Shower
Pay 1500 RMB
Put her on taxi
She will be texting you how much she loves you
Next time pay 1600 RMB, then 1200 RMB, then 1500 RMB, then 1300.
Dont ask how much, just give her. She will never count in front of you.

Ace Gallant
01-19-07, 03:53
Good question. I've been reading the forum for the last 6 months and only now been active.

You got to be kidding or you are just plainly insulting all the members who had posted so much information on the Shanghai board!

The Shanghai thread is the most well posted board in China containing 7718 posts and you are saying it is not active till now that you are starting to post? Don't try to take credit from others good members.

You had posted good information, that's good, we appreciated, but if you had read the Shanghai thread well enough, you should well know that the board members are very fast in "gunning" down member who are lazy and do not read the board or use information posted by other members to build a profit (at one time Dragon D) or just straight trying to brag.

Based on your previous posts I don't think you want to belong to those category. So continue posting good information and stop bragging!

BTW: KTV girls prices starts from as low as 500 and as high as 5000 for LT. It will depends on which KTV you are in, what time of the day you are taking her out, what day of the month is it and of course how desperate is the girl in terms of money.

Some KTV (full nude performance) the girls will start from 2000, but if it is 1am and they had not reach the month's quota, you can nicely negotiate down to 1000. While some other low class KTV the girls start lower. Walk into a KTV like Paradise; they will start at 5000 because they know that people going there are chauffeured around in Audi, BMWs. Etc. Of course I do not eliminate those member from the board who do not RTFF, walks into the KTV, got ripped off and yet returning to the board only to find himself been blamed for “spoiling the market”.

Enjoy!
AG

Member #3428
01-19-07, 04:00
You got to be kidding or you are just plainly insulting all the members who had posted so much information on the Shanghai board!


FWIW, I think he's saying he has read the thread for six months and HE is just now active in posting. Not that the thread has been inactive. At least that's the way I was reading it.

And the SH board is the most informative of all the boards IMHO as it has helped me out greatly.

Levitian
01-19-07, 04:37
Ace,

I also do read it as Tansak KTV wrote. I cannot see any insulting here.

I, however, do consider Munk 305's comment as insulting, and he clearly shows that he has no clue about KTV scene in Shanghai.
LT 300 -400 is probably adaequate for hookers in the bars or on the streets, but not for the KTV scene.

My 2 cents.

Levitian

Ace Gallant
01-19-07, 05:31
Ace,

I also do read it as Tansak KTV wrote. I cannot see any insulting here.

I, however, do consider Munk 305's comment as insulting, and he clearly shows that he has no clue about KTV scene in Shanghai.
LT 300 -400 is probably adaequate for hookers in the bars or on the streets, but not for the KTV scene.

My 2 cents.

Levitian

I read his post again and give it some thoughts and agreed that I got him wrong; I stood corrected. May be I was over sensitive and defensive for the members of the Shanghai board that was regularly posting.

I also agree on the fact that Muck's post is insulting. If you noticed; I mentioned in my post that the minimum the KTV girl will accept for LT is 500. 300 - 400 is beyong that range. Muck's question for you, perhaps you like to share the name and location of the KTV in which the average LT price is 300 - 400?

To be frank, I did had an experience of bringing out a KTV girl for 500 in a low down local KTV. The initial agreement was for ST but she ended up stayed till 5pm the next day and we had multiple shots in between so I called that 500 for LT. This KTV is called Wan Mei KTV in Hongqiao Area...I'll have the search for the address to post it here.

AG

Levitian
01-19-07, 06:02
I did and do not frequent KTVs much, just not "my pair of shoes". But still, sometimes, duty calls and I have to go in order to party with leaving friends or business partners.

I do recall one KTV incident, when we were partying until really late, got seriously drunk and - as it is the rather normal concomitant - pretty horny, I asked "my" girl how much it would cost to take her home. Again, it was already close to sunrise and close to "xiaban" for the girls, and my girl was actully offering to come with me just for free.

In the end, I couldn't make it, mainly because I had definitely too much alcohol, and I fortunately did recall in a clear moment, that somebody else already was waiting home, so I had to decline the generous offer.

But, this is rather the exception than the rule. Ace's 500 LT is already an extremely good bargain, and 1000 - 2000 pretty common.

Levitian

Ace Gallant
01-19-07, 07:14
I did and do not frequent KTVs much, just not "my pair of shoes". But still, sometimes, duty calls and I have to go in order to party with leaving friends or business partners.

I do recall one KTV incident, when we were partying until really late, got seriously drunk and - as it is the rather normal concomitant - pretty horny, I asked "my" girl how much it would cost to take her home. Again, it was already close to sunrise and close to "xiaban" for the girls, and my girl was actully offering to come with me just for free.

In the end, I couldn't make it, mainly because I had definitely too much alcohol, and I fortunately did recall in a clear moment, that somebody else already was waiting home, so I had to decline the generous offer.

But, this is rather the exception than the rule. Ace's 500 LT is already an extremely good bargain, and 1000 - 2000 pretty common.

Levitian


Yes, there are exceptions and freebies possiblities in KTV too. But in such cases they will normally ask you to wait for them after their work hours (sometimes closing time of the KTV) and you are not to bring them directly out from the KTV. They will ask you to wait for them outside somewhere near. This is because, if you walked out of the KTV with them, they will have to pay the KTV and Mamasan the commission. Also in such case as freebies; they are after something else other than money. (Read my post a couple month back about "Long Line fisherman").

For my case of 500 for LT, mainly is because it is near KTV closing time, her house is far away from the KTV and my house is just next to the KTV. Perfect situation for her to sleep through and go to work the following day in which she still get paid! I am sure even if I don't pay her, she wouldn't mind!

AG

Eazy Guy
01-20-07, 16:30
I was arrived in Shanghai five months ago, during this 150 days in Shanghai I have been to so many KTVs. The price for taking out a girl from KTV is about RMB1k onwards. If you are lucky, it might be gone down to RMB800. For AG's case, it is because the girl was admired him! (joking) So I don't think it is possible of getting a girl from any KTV with RMB300-400!

Cheers,

EG

Rob Hay
01-21-07, 11:50
Arrive last Sunday and headed to the KTV on 98 Hua Hai Zhong Lu. Quite a few people mocked a fellow poster a few weeks back when he admitted to pay 2k for the night. Well i couldnt get the price lower than 1.2k a night but this place i am told by everyone in Shanghai is the 2nd best KTV in the city. Figured that might be the case when i saw a Bentley and a few Ferraris parked outside. As far as him continuing to pay this girl top dollar...well hes just doing what all of the rest of these rich CHinese and Taiwanese guys are doing in throwing money at the girl. Cant really blame these guys for throwing money at these girls, just like you cant blame an 18 year old first round NBA draft pick who decides to buy 5 Escalades.

These Ktv girls in this particular place are all 8-10s....very high end quality as he described and all looking for a sugar daddy to be kepted by. Not within my budget but i did agree to meet one of the girls at Attica. WIse move and good investment for 500k as i made her introduce me to every beautiful girl there including a 6' model from Harbin who is my current freebie. There are some runway shows the 1st week of Feb which shes taking me to....hopefully that will lead to some new hotties. There are no shortage of freebies available, I also met a fashion designer and 2 air hostesses from Virgin and CHina Eastern. But the real question is how long are they going to be free for?

But my current girls is going to start to cost real soon in the way of apartment and allowance I can tell. I"ll be getting a good expat package including housing in a service apt with a high rise view, which is going to help lure girls but to continuing rolling with hotties you gotta pay up sooner or later. Thats what im finding is the case in this city from my 1 week here....Tell me if i"m wrong. Well the good times cant last forever....

Looking to hook up with DD sometime to show me around the bath houses but just been a bit busy with my Harbin girl.

Carnesseur
01-21-07, 19:03
Rob, thanks for following up on my post about the Huai Hai Zhong Lu KTV. As you said the place is luxurious. Not typical of what I have seen in other KTV excursions. Since you say you talked them down to 1200 RMB, obviously I've been paying too much even at this place, as some of the others have said. Sounds like the market rate for the really hot girls in these places is 1200-1800 for the whole night, after negotiation. A variance of 400 RMB. But like I said my LT experiences with the two girls on two consecutive nights were like night and day. One was not worth 1200 in bed, though very hot looking. The other was a goddess in looks and in bed and, at least to me, worth a bit more.


Arrive last Sunday and headed to the KTV on 98 Hua Hai Zhong Lu. Quite a few people mocked a fellow poster a few weeks back when he admitted to pay 2k for the night. Well i couldnt get the price lower than 1.2k a night but this place i am told by everyone in Shanghai is the 2nd best KTV in the city. Figured that might be the case when i saw a Bentley and a few Ferraris parked outside. As far as him continuing to pay this girl top dollar...well hes just doing what all of the rest of these rich CHinese and Taiwanese guys are doing in throwing money at the girl. Cant really blame these guys for throwing money at these girls, just like you cant blame an 18 year old first round NBA draft pick who decides to buy 5 Escalades.

These Ktv girls in this particular place are all 8-10s....very high end quality as he described and all looking for a sugar daddy to be kepted by. Not within my budget but i did agree to meet one of the girls at Attica. WIse move and good investment for 500k as i made her introduce me to every beautiful girl there including a 6' model from Harbin who is my current freebie. There are some runway shows the 1st week of Feb which shes taking me to....hopefully that will lead to some new hotties. There are no shortage of freebies available, I also met a fashion designer and 2 air hostesses from Virgin and CHina Eastern. But the real question is how long are they going to be free for?

But my current girls is going to start to cost real soon in the way of apartment and allowance I can tell. I"ll be getting a good expat package including housing in a service apt with a high rise view, which is going to help lure girls but to continuing rolling with hotties you gotta pay up sooner or later. Thats what im finding is the case in this city from my 1 week here....Tell me if i"m wrong. Well the good times cant last forever....

Looking to hook up with DD sometime to show me around the bath houses but just been a bit busy with my Harbin girl.

Miclac
01-22-07, 06:42
Rob,

Why do you have to pay? I think if you have the right attitude you can be the scammer and not these girls. If you are reasonably handsome you are in demand as a laowai with a good job. Why not use it for what it is worth? I mean why succumb to that money/gifts b.s?


Arrive last Sunday and headed to the KTV on 98 Hua Hai Zhong Lu. Quite a few people mocked a fellow poster a few weeks back when he admitted to pay 2k for the night. Well i couldnt get the price lower than 1.2k a night but this place i am told by everyone in Shanghai is the 2nd best KTV in the city. Figured that might be the case when i saw a Bentley and a few Ferraris parked outside. As far as him continuing to pay this girl top dollar...well hes just doing what all of the rest of these rich CHinese and Taiwanese guys are doing in throwing money at the girl. Cant really blame these guys for throwing money at these girls, just like you cant blame an 18 year old first round NBA draft pick who decides to buy 5 Escalades.

These Ktv girls in this particular place are all 8-10s....very high end quality as he described and all looking for a sugar daddy to be kepted by. Not within my budget but i did agree to meet one of the girls at Attica. WIse move and good investment for 500k as i made her introduce me to every beautiful girl there including a 6' model from Harbin who is my current freebie. There are some runway shows the 1st week of Feb which shes taking me to....hopefully that will lead to some new hotties. There are no shortage of freebies available, I also met a fashion designer and 2 air hostesses from Virgin and CHina Eastern. But the real question is how long are they going to be free for?

But my current girls is going to start to cost real soon in the way of apartment and allowance I can tell. I"ll be getting a good expat package including housing in a service apt with a high rise view, which is going to help lure girls but to continuing rolling with hotties you gotta pay up sooner or later. Thats what im finding is the case in this city from my 1 week here....Tell me if i"m wrong. Well the good times cant last forever....

Looking to hook up with DD sometime to show me around the bath houses but just been a bit busy with my Harbin girl.

Neuromancer
01-22-07, 14:27
rob,

Why do you have to pay? I think if you have the right attitude you can be the scammer and not these girls. If you are reasonably handsome you are in demand as a laowai with a good job. Why not use it for what it is worth? I mean why succumb to that money/gifts b.s?Ok, so random question - has anyone managed to get the girl to pay YOU? I suppose that would be the truest test of what sort of game you've got.

Unknown One
01-22-07, 20:08
havent heard much going on about 500 sauna so i thought i pay another visit to the place to see whats been going on since i last posted about it. the mamasan was happy to see me, she actually remembered me.
now most people here know the routine of this place so i will skip all the b.s. and move straight on to the important information.
the mamasan showed me 2 lineups and during the second lineup i immediately caught the eye of one big eyed, sweet smile, petite frame, short wild permed hairdo wearing a red hankie top with matching waist wrap girl.

i can only sum her up with one word, "sugar". let me just say we never got to the rope treatment because she was too busy biting me, and kissing me while we were just sucking, licking, touching, clawing and screwing like rabbits for an hour. but she is definately sweet enough to give you a sugar rush. she doesnt seem to mind your body fluid so much either, be it spit, sweat, or otherwise. but she uses protection for penetration.

i am debating on whether to reveal her identity right now, i hate to find out she has been ruined by unconsiderate mongers when i find her next time. this has happened before.

so just to point out, mamasan tells me they have been getting some new girls, and mamasan is very kind to point out who gives the best service as long as you ask her and she has been right everytime when she tells me. she showed me #810 from mongolia, a hottie but seems much older when you look at her up close. #610 from an hui, a very pretty girl on the slim side, and my girl which i may reveal to guys i know. they change girls frequently, but this latest batch have some real nice gems so get it while supplies last gentlemen!

my girl tally

looks: 7-8 (big eyes and very sweet smile with nice teeth, )
body: petite, but when she took off her top, damn the tor****s, they are real. a large b to a small c cup. au' natural, but great body.
personality: 9 super friendly girl, she is very honest about how she feels.
gfe: 9 i swore she was acting like a real girlfriend with the way she cant stop kissing and touching, and licking me everywhere.
service: 8 this is some of the best sex i have had that wasnt a girl i was dating
price: same 530 before 7pm and 580 after 7pm. i never noticed but you have to leave before 7pm to enjoy the 50 discount.
hotel quality: 5 the shower area is starting to fall apart a bit. the rooms are also not as nice as shanghai hotel but the girl services for the price is fantastic.

Kerrchang1
01-23-07, 06:06
Dear Unknown one,

Could you please have more detail about the place on Wuzhonglu?

What is the name of the place?

Where is located exactly?

Thanks.

Rob Hay
01-23-07, 11:36
I am at the internet cafe at this corner right next to the famous Sauna often referred to on this board. Honestly I want to take another shower as I feel disgusted with the bathhouse experience. Girl number 31 is about 6 or 7 but i just can't get into the spitting on my back thing. Also not GFE but can't say I'd be interested in GFE after imagining all the places that tongue has been.

As far as the freebie scene...as a 29 year old decent looking enough ABC with a pimp highrise apt on Hua Hai Zhong road I am playing the game as well as it can be played. BUT...if everything about me implies i've got big $$$ (not really true compared to all the high rollers around) at some point its only natural that these trophy type want a piece. Game and the allure of money will get you into the door and even laid but to continue the relationship they will want to share in the lifestyle. Can anyone tell me a country where this isnt the case? THe only other way around it would be to continue to meet new girls, date, get laid and then move on. THis is fun for now but i think its gonna get old for a perm. resident here. I think what Miclac is saying is fine for a short timer but its just not going to work in the long run.

I'm off to Aus for business until Sunday......but Monday and Tuesday have been memorable and I will report upon my return

Mrx9000
01-23-07, 20:32
All big hotels massage centers girls are offering HJ nad BJ. However, the ones I met for just normal massage (yes really! ) started negotiating at 1500 yuan. Yes right. Didn't waant to folow that deal.

Probably well known fior the locals, but for me that was new.

Steve

Seira Seira
01-24-07, 17:24
I will shortly stay in Shanghai Central Hotel. Do you know anything about "service" there or in the surrounding area? Any special sauna or better massage salon around? Please give me all your suggestions. Thank you for your help, I will keep you guys updated!

Arctic1
01-24-07, 20:00
I will shortly stay in Shanghai Central Hotel. Do you know anything about "service" there or in the surrounding area? Any special sauna or better massage salon around? Please give me all your suggestions. Thank you for your help, I will keep you guys updated!See my post from last year. This is not a GF establishment.

Xiangjiao
01-25-07, 01:32
Hey Tango Foxtwo,

Interesting posts about the second wife thing. Sounds like you're having a blast living the 007 life. I'm sort of in the same situation, but am paying a lot less than you. At the moment, I have a few "second wives" (so I guess I actually have a "third" and "fourth" wife). I'm not a rich expat like you, so I basically only pay for things when the two of us go out to eat, drink, or travel together. When she's by herself, she pays for her own stuff. I don't pay for rent, etc., or anything on top of that, though every couple of months, I'll buy her a gift worth RMB500 or so, or maybe give her a hongbao of RMB2000 just to see her surprised smile.

You mentioned that she might have a part-time lover. Have you ever found out whether she does one or any info on her part-time lover? I have a feeling he doesn't pay a cent and that in fact, she might even be treating him to meals, etc. Wouldn't it be better to be that guy instead of the sugar-daddy? Maybe you should put your foot down and just pay for things when you're together instead of giving her the extra RMB1300-1600 tip every time (though you can give it to her as a gift on special occasions like Valentine's Day or something), and if she gives you a hard time, tell her that if she really cares about you and not just your money, she'll stick around. That's what I do anyway.

Good luck!


Tell me about it! Considering apartment rent, spending monie etc plus depending on your economic status and where you found the girl (KTV - or other) and where the girl is from (Shanghainees, Bejing, etc)...- 12K RMB is middle of the road.

My mistress (Chinese wife) tells me about her friends and all the stories.
Fabulous gifts from lover are over-stated. They out STORY each other to make their friends jelous. Also if you are not living with her, she may have you as Laogong, but may have a part time lover. You may not be her only source. All these story about some lover buy car or mansion for girl is VERY rare - if not fake MOST OF THE TIME. There are some lottery winners, but very very rare.

I only see my mistress 1 week per month. She moves into my hotel while I'm in town. She works at a high end KTV, so I compensate her missing work with gifts (approx 8K).

While I'm in town, she get to live the good life. Lives at Westin, shop at department store, eat very well and gets treated like a movie start by the hotel staff and me.

YES - it some times can get into your heart, but RULE NUMBER ONE - don't fall in love. If you fail, remember rule number two - love is temporary. All good things have an ending, so till it comes - she enjoys comfort and I enjoy being James Bond.

Seira Seira
01-25-07, 16:01
See my post from last year. This is not a GF establishment.Arctic1,

Ok, it is clear, I found your report! What about if I do not want to bring work at home and I just wanna go for a massage with full service in the area of Nan Jing. Any place you can suggest with nice girls and CLEAN location?

Thank you my Guide!

Hoeman
01-26-07, 17:09
Hi All,

Used to be based in Humen, Dongguan. Have just relocated to Shanghai. Am staying in Pudong, somewhere near XiXia Rd, where there are several BBS. Have checked out the quality there, and the selection is not too exciting (only a few of the selection can pass the "dick" test). Am wondering if there are any other roads with BBS nearby? Are there also any cheap saunas with FS nearby?

Hope you guys can send me in the right direction.

Hoeman.

p.s. XiXia Rd is adjacent to DongFang Rd, and is near Pudong Avenue.

Tile Man4
01-27-07, 04:59
Hey Tango Foxtwo,

Interesting posts about the second wife thing. Sounds like you're having a blast living the 007 life. I'm sort of in the same situation, but am paying a lot less than you. At the moment, I have a few "second wives" (so I guess I actually have a "third" and "fourth" wife). I'm not a rich expat like you, so I basically only pay for things when the two of us go out to eat, drink, or travel together. When she's by herself, she pays for her own stuff. I don't pay for rent, etc., or anything on top of that, though every couple of months, I'll buy her a gift worth RMB500 or so, or maybe give her a hongbao of RMB2000 just to see her surprised smile.

You mentioned that she might have a part-time lover. Have you ever found out whether she does one or any info on her part-time lover? I have a feeling he doesn't pay a cent and that in fact, she might even be treating him to meals, etc. Wouldn't it be better to be that guy instead of the sugar-daddy? Maybe you should put your foot down and just pay for things when you're together instead of giving her the extra RMB1300-1600 tip every time (though you can give it to her as a gift on special occasions like Valentine's Day or something), and if she gives you a hard time, tell her that if she really cares about you and not just your money, she'll stick around. That's what I do anyway.

Good luck!Hey Xiangjiao:

Great string on second wife ( bao ernai) - My problem is this: I did go to China to meet a wife , I am not a monger . I now think that my Chinese woman is a second wife. She has a 6000 rmb diamond that she told me her girlfriend gave her . She said this is Chinese culture for chinese women to do this. I wait for your advice but I know this woman is taking me for a fucking ride. I will ask you this. Can a second wife (ernai) refuse her man's sexual request? OR does anythink go? In the usa , women are like buses , a new one comes alone every 10 minutes , but , in China women are like a taxi , Raise your hand and you have 20 of thme that want to take you for a ride. Please tell me more about Chinese men to Chinese woman second wife.

Thanks

George

Lotstotalk
01-27-07, 05:40
I will arrive in Shanghai on Feb 9th, and stay there for about two weeks. I have been researching this forum for a while and come up a “must visit” list with addresses. I want to post here as a thank you for all these valuable information you guys provided, is it a good idea? or too much exposure for these places?

Marks Spencer
01-27-07, 10:50
[QUOTE=river146]I highly recommend the service from 868. She can do evrything for you! The evrything here means really applied all the thing you get from other girls. it is real meaning of full service. The best FBSM skill which touch you everywhere those other girl maybe just reach part of them, tongue bath from my eachtoe to deep ass, longest red rope time and fastest rotation in the action, V massage, BBBJTCIM and DFK that most of girl do not offer in Yu Ping.[QUOTE]Just to add to your review is that NO.868 is the infamous No.52 from TRY mentioned in the forum couple of years ago! Why infamous? Because she really loves anal action. In fact the first time I did anal was with her when she stopped me in the middle of our sesssion and asked me to penetrate her from behind. I think most of the bros here in the forum would have tried this service judging from previous posts about No.52!

Heyes B
01-27-07, 14:46
I will arrive in Shanghai on Feb 9th, and stay there for about two weeks. I have been researching this forum for a while and come up a “must visit” list with addresses. I want to post here as a thank you for all these valuable information you guys provided, is it a good idea? or too much exposure for these places?Post your list ASSP pls, Hehe.

Shanghai Jack
01-27-07, 17:55
It's good to be back in Shanghai!

Yesterday I went to the Ji Yuan Soapland again with some friends.

It was after midnight, so you have the pay first at the counter before you enter the locker rooms.

I was a bit reluctant but my friend who knows the manager says it's normal there after midnight.

The place was completely packed. Although we made a reservation, they didn't have a room and they brought us to the waiting area in our street clothes.

And this at 1am…

My friend complained heavily and as we had made a reservation, they brought us to the room with the girls after 15 minutes.

Still in our street clothing, we picked our girls and went to the rooms.

My girl was number 71 from Dong Bei. She was very cute, tall and slim as I like them.
The service was not exceptional but quite nice taking into account the time.

Before we left, my friend chatted with the manager and asked about the problems due to the new police boss in Jing An district.

He said that there were problems but they could fix them.

Apparently there was a raid, but the customers were not affected.

My friend says in places where you pay 500 RMB and above, the raids only affect the management of the place - they need to pay more - but they don’t go after the customers.

Don't know if this is really true but as there were questions on this board before regarding the raids in Jing An district, I wanted to share this piece of information.

Have fun,

SJ

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Bab Com
01-27-07, 20:35
Hello,

I'm coming in Shanghai around February 22th, I'm looking for a cheap hotel near a freelancers places. Alrady stayed in Wulumuqi and found a lot of hookers in front of the Hilton on Changshu Lu.

Do you know over places?

AKA Man
01-28-07, 01:15
Hello,

I'm coming in Shanghai around February 22th, I'm looking for a cheap hotel near a freelancers places. Alrady stayed in Wulumuqi and found a lot of hookers in front of the Hilton on Changshu Lu.

Do you know over places?How cheap is cheap? Bailemen on Nanjing Rd. just up the street runs around 350-400/night. (Like everything in China, price is negotiable). No problem bringing guests back after hours (at least last year).

Cheaper yet: Jinjiang Hotels.There are a couple in the immediate area as well. Under 300.

Ace Gallant
01-28-07, 02:11
I will arrive in Shanghai on Feb 9th, and stay there for about two weeks. I have been researching this forum for a while and come up a “must visit” list with addresses. I want to post here as a thank you for all these valuable information you guys provided, is it a good idea? or too much exposure for these places?

LTT,

Like many on the board we wanted to post information but have the fear of been famed.

IMHO: Don't care about these wankers, if they get too overboard in faming, Jackson will banned them.

If there is good information or updates it is always a good ideal to post them. The members appreciate new or update information. The reason why certain place like the Z…. Pub was taken offline from the board sometime ago is because the owner asked us to stop due to over exposure and the authorities had been tightening the security around his place for sometime. This is a good example of over exposure.

However a few of us visited the place recently and spoke to the owner, he told us that everything is back to normal as he had “fixed” the problem. Nevertheless, we will keep the low profile of this place.

Thanks for you contribution of information in the Classified Ads threads but I think it is alright to move that post here as those are Shanghai information and this it where it belongs.

Enjoy!
AG

Shanghai Jack
01-28-07, 04:40
The mamasan showed me 2 lineups and during the second lineup I immediately caught the eye of one big eyed, sweet smile, petite frame, short wild permed hairdo wearing a red hankie top with matching waist wrap girl.
I can only sum her up with one word, "sugar". Hi, Unknown One,

I was at Wuzhong Lu 500 today and I am 99, 9% sure I met this girl, too. 'Sugar' is not sweet enough to describe her from my point of view. It was simply the best GFE in a Shanghai sauna I have ever had. After I asked her at the end of our session (she even speaks a little English), the manager (!) gave me her card with her mobile phone number. Very tempting.

But what I want to share with you and the others (again) is that you should also consider to check out the 5th floor. For 800 RMB flat rate, you get 1 hour of wild Karaoke action in the room and 1 hour of special service.

In the Karaoke room, you choose the girl from the line-up and then choose their costume. My favorite are 'police woman' and 'baseball player'.

Unknow one, just imagine this cutie in nothing but an XL baseball shirt and high heels.

Even if you are not into singing, there are plenty of other things you can do in one hour and for me the overall package is very reasonable prized. Really great for an evening with old friends.

Have fun,

SJ

Guy I
01-28-07, 10:46
Yes, there are exceptions and freebies possiblities in KTV too. But in such cases they will normally ask you to wait for them after their work hours (sometimes closing time of the KTV) and you are not to bring them directly out from the KTV. They will ask you to wait for them outside somewhere near. This is because, if you walked out of the KTV with them, they will have to pay the KTV and Mamasan the commission. Also in such case as freebies; they are after something else other than money. (Read my post a couple month back about "Long Line fisherman").

For my case of 500 for LT, mainly is because it is near KTV closing time, her house is far away from the KTV and my house is just next to the KTV. Perfect situation for her to sleep through and go to work the following day in which she still get paid! I am sure even if I don't pay her, she wouldn't mind!

AG

Similar thing just happened to me this week - I went to Paradise KTV, and picked a Mongolian girl but didn't negotiate to take her home since I wasn't all that interested. She asked me for my hotel name during the evening and lo and behold, my phone rings at about 3am and she asks if she can spend the night. Turns out she was a virgin! I didn't want to have that responsibility so I settled with a couple of handjobs. Gave her a little Taxi money in the morning, that's all. I guess anything is possible...

Legigi
01-28-07, 10:55
Hi Guys,

Do you know some phone numbers to book a girl who accept to come into you hotel room and have you experience of this.

I'm a French man don't speak english.

Before there is web the site bodymassage but it's closed.

Thanks

Bab Com
01-28-07, 11:48
How cheap is cheap? Bailemen on Nanjing Rd. just up the street runs around 350-400/night. (Like everything in China, price is negotiable). No problem bringing guests back after hours (at least last year).

Cheaper yet: Jinjiang Hotels.There are a couple in the immediate area as well. Under 300.Thanks,

I know the Bailemen Hotel. Seems there is some public services inside, I've seen a lot of people taking the lift for upstairs floors.

You kow other places in the same area?

Shanghai Jack
01-28-07, 12:18
After I returned from WuZhong Lu 500 yesterday, I was completely finished and just wanted to sleep. I left my mobile in the room and when I took it I saw 5 missed calls from my regular freebie. Did I promised her to meet her this evening? Oh yes, I did - not good.

She did not use the pin yin words she normally uses when she writes me, so I needed translation support from my Chinese friend. As expected, she was really really pissed. I called her and said I needed to work late and forgot my mobile and I am so sorry, etc. She obviously went to the Xian Tin Di alone and got drunk, getting more and more mad at me. After some minutes, I managed to calm her down and she asked if she could come to my place. Man, I was tired, but how could I reject this.
When she arrived, she acused me of having a 'girlfriend number 2' which was not completely wrong. She undressed and said "I show you I am best" and this was the start of a long night. She left at 8 am to go to work - where do these girls take all the energy from? I still don't know if it is a good idea to continue with my freebie. It's fun and nice, but as all relationships it can get messy and difficult, as well. Maybe I should better stick with the Saunas and Soaplands. Shanghai really has too much to offer.

Have fun, SJ

Legigi
01-28-07, 13:39
Hi Guys,

Is it possible to ask for a girl diectly by call. Do you have some pone numbers to book a girl to come to your hotel. Before there was a web site bodymassage with a phone number but now it's closed.

Which are the bars in Shanghai where it's possible to pick up a chinese girl.

I'm a french man and don't speak chinese.

Albert Punter
01-28-07, 14:48
LTT,

All places you mention in your list are quite famous and I don't think they will have over-exposure by your post.

Therefore, your list will be a good reminder for those newbies who always pop in and ask "what it address for this or that ?"


I will arrive in Shanghai on Feb 9th, and stay there for about two weeks. I have been researching this forum for a while and come up a “must visit” list with addresses. I want to post here as a thank you for all these valuable information you guys provided, is it a good idea? or too much exposure for these places?

Lotstotalk
01-28-07, 20:11
LTT,

All places you mention in your list are quite famous and I don't think they will have over-exposure by your post.

Therefore, your list will be a good reminder for those newbies who always pop in and ask "what it address for this or that ?"AG,

Thanks for your response. I sent a msg to the admin, ask to move the report to here, non response. So I have to re post it here. , yep, you are right. They are all places with good reviews from this forum. I didn't include KTV, since it is soooo overpriced IMO.

I remembered someone on the forum ask for a e-map, check out map. Ctrip.com. It allows you to zoom in/out, set start/end point and generates distance and driving directions (kinda like mapquest). It is the best e-map I have seen so far in China, far better than smartshanghai. And it is a China map (did I not mention this), not just for shanghai. But it is in Chinese only.

Here is the list:

Sauna:
Shanghai Hotel: changshu rd & huashang rd
Shanghai hotel branch 737 Cao Xi Bei Lu. The new store is located in Xu Gia Hui, on Cao Xi Bei Lu(the cross road is Lin Ling Lu).
5th floor Urumuqi Bei Lu #209. Outside says K-OK (normal KTV downstairs). There are a couple greeters just outside the door and they will point you to take the elevator up to the 5th floor. 130-6173-8391
Ji Yuan Sauna: 609 Jiaozhou lu (changping lu intersection):760rmb
JinDin Sauna: 1185 west WuDin rd. 62463916 3rd floor in Motel168
Place - Shu Yi Quan Sauna Center 舒怡泉
Telephone - 62897417
Address - 825 Yan An Zhong Lu, South East corner of Yan An Zhong Lu and Wei Hai Lu, between Wei Hai Lu and Shan Xi Lu, Da An Guang Chang (Da An Plaza) Ground Floor
延安中路825号, 威海路, 一偻 薘安广场
Service - Massage, Fire & ice, AR, BBJ, Red Rope, Stockings (New), FS.
Damage - 600 rmb, 2 girls 1200 rmb (Add 50 rmb for invoice)


BBS:
The Village: on Wuzhong rd.& HangDong rd. (D8 to C8 & A20 from the map) near motel 168
Motel 168 address: 地址:上海市吴中路1148号 电话:021-64019188
航华新村 Hanghua Xin Cun (New Village) : Wu Zhong Lu /Hang Zhong Lu

Nightclubs:
Yan An Lu&Tong Ren Rd HENGSHAN ROAD:
Bon Bon: 2F Yunhai Tower, 1329 Huaihai Zhong Lu near Hengshan Road
Babyface: 淮海中路138号上海广场101室
Park97: 皋兰路2A,复兴公园内,近思南路 best bet for freebies
Attica: 11F, 15 Zhongshan Dong Er Lu (drinks are more expensive than average (RMB 100 for a beer) (Latinas and Russians can be found there.)
Muse:
Guandii: Gaolan Road, inside Fuxing Park 5383 6020
Muse: 68 Yuyao Lu, inside The New Factories Phone: 62188166, 52135228
Zapata’s: 5 hengshan rd. 64746166

your Hotel (which is on the middle of Nanjing Road) to Tongren Road, Hilton Hotel etc. A popular spot is the Shanghai Hotel Saune, If you really want to walk, walk towards north-west from your hotel. This area has a lot bbs

BBS in Changde Lu (check posts and map from AG), the Pub, bars in Tongren Lu, sauna at Shanghai Hotel, Xin Tian Di

a) stroll in front of Hilton, which is just around the corner from Equatorial Hotel, in search for street girls;
b) try bars in Julu Lu, which is almost in front of Hilton, for some take-away;
c) try big massage place in front of Hilton, in case you are up just for HJ;
d) to move north to Tongren Lu bars strip, intersection with Yanan Lu, for take-away;
e) to move farther north to Malone's for take away;
f) to move farther north to the Pub, for a quick "on premises" release ;
g) to move south to Zapata's and other venues in Hengshan Lu, for take-away;
h) to move east to Xin Tian Di bars, for take-away;
i) take a girl from Equatorial Hotel karaoke (in case you are willing to spend).

Go to 151 club (my fav) just don't pick up my girlfriend. Some english speaking girls there. Need to go with local who can guide you. For pickups. Try Manhattan at ton ren ru. Around XTD, hang out at Starbuck and strike up conversations with any girl. It works 40% of the time. I like the red maison bar. However, my all time fav is PARK97. Lookers and some hookers. All else fails, try the Shanghai hotel sauna for a sure thing(2nd floor 650 rmb in the afternoon).

At the crossing of 'Jiao Zhou' Lu and 'Chang Ping' Lu, a big "Ji Yuan Salon" red and blue neon sign is easy to spot,

Shanghai hotel branch 737 Cao Xi Bei Lu. The new store is located in Xu Gia Hui, on Cao Xi Bei Lu(the cross road is Lin Ling Lu).

Waves address: 1281 Zhong Shan Xi Lu

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Bad Boy Billy
01-29-07, 02:58
Guys I will be in Shanghai nights of Feb 14, 16 and 17 - just an update on info if you can help?

Does Zapatas still have 'ladies night' on Wednesday nights?

How is 'Bourbon Street' these days?

How is 'Park 97' these days?

Is 'Manhattan Bar' still operating on Maoming Lu?

Thanks in advance guys.

Mock A Bee
01-29-07, 05:14
Legigi,

You post exactly two postings, both with the same message asking for phone numbers. Do you think we are a bunch of pimps?

I could be wrong but I thought this forum is to help people find pussy. You obviously didn't read anything. There is all kinds of information posted here.

You want to know where to pick up Chinese girls in Shanghai?
Last I looked there were thousands of them in all directions.

RTFF dude.

MAB


Hi Guys,

Is it possible to ask for a girl diectly by call. Do you have some pone numbers to book a girl to come to your hotel. Before there was a web site bodymassage with a phone number but now it's closed.

Which are the bars in Shanghai where it's possible to pick up a chinese girl.

I'm a french man and don't speak chinese.

Aisin Gioro
01-29-07, 12:39
Alright, fellas

Internet service has been awful lately to the point that I couldn't log in to the forum. I tried to post a report, but it was just impossible. Anyway, apparently it's all back to normal. I just gave a quick read to the latest posts and PM's I had waiting. I'm up to date.

A couple of weeks ago I found a new place: Tai Yang Dao SPA 太阳岛花园浴场 (tai4 yang2 dao3 yu4 chang3).

This is a just renewed SPA on Changping Lu, 317 (Jiangning Lu south-west corner) 昌平路317号 (江宁路口). The place is BIG, can't miss it.

Originally I went to check the SPA facilities as the place looks new and nice. Of course, after some in-venue investigation and interrogation of the staff I found out that special service is available too.

This was a really long story, so I'll just spare you the details and post the relevant data:

Nice fully renewed entrance and reception hall. To the right, you turn in your shoes and they give you a key, then lead you to the basement, where lockers and SPA-sauna facilities are located. Not luxury, but all clean, new and decently kept, with all the necessary stuff for a complete bathing, sauna and SPA experience. This service is non-optional and costs 58 RMB.

When you are done, you can proceed to the different floors. Restaurant and a small internet room (10 RMB/hour) are available on 2nd and 4th floors.

Floor #3 is where the fun is.

This is divided into four areas: two relax and massage halls with the usual individual seats and TV, one bar and the rooms. The rooms are laid-out around the public relax areas and bar, along the corridors, drawing a square.

Using the sofas and ther areas is free and there is no time limit. Of course you pay what you order. There you can call for massage and an extensive menu is available. Massage is also available in-room, for an extra 20 RMB. This service in the public areas is provided by plain looking girls wearing cute white sailor suits (which indeed enhances their plain looks).

The most expensive service on the menu is 298 RMB (room included) oil massage. And this is when things start to get complicated.

+ 100 RMB (= 398 RMB) gets you a red-uniform sailorette, oil massage and a hand-job. Clothes on. Some of these are definitely cute.

+ 300 RMB (= 598 RMB) gets you a black-uniform sailorette, oil massage and FS.

Notice that there is no 498 RMB, oil massage + hand job + no clothes service. Believe me, I asked, bargained, negotiated and begged. Due to the non sexual nature (HJ is not considered sexual, just special) of their service, red suit sailorettes will not provide you with anything like BJ, AR and such. The only option is black sailorettes, and they do it for 598 RMB, not one less (but probably you can py more if you want...), as the prices are fixed.

In order to keep a minimal appearance of decency, as the place is usually packed with families (that means lots of wives and children around), there is no fish bowl: you wait inside the room and they send chicks, one after another until you like what you see. Kind of a crappy system, isn't it?

I know for sure that I wasn't being abused (no laowai fei here). I have become a regular of the SPA facilities (for special services I go cheaper or at least better than in here) and got to know one of the guys working there.

Well, if any of you guys is down for a 398+58 RMB oil massage with happy ending (打飞机), just PM me. Someone was asking for a new place, if I remember corectly.

I go there every Friday, Saturday or Sunday evening for the SPA. Since they don't speak any English, although my Chinese is crappy, I already know the system and can help you get by.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Albert Punter
01-29-07, 13:30
I linked the useful list posted by LotsToTalk in ROD.

It is true that he copied and pasted some other members' posts (including one by myself) but I believe that is not bad at all.
On the contrary it proves he RTTF, and this goes to his merit.

Woxiangyao
01-29-07, 13:34
Ok, I've heard about this sauna. No red ropes, no vibrating beds, but Role Play.

The problem is I have no idea where it is! Somewhere near HongQiao Airport. The report said.

Apparently this place has a couple of scenarios, secretary / boss role play, delivery girl role play etc. No guesses on who is the boss and who needs to put out for money.

I've tried pmming the author from the other forum, but no reply so far. I'm not sure if this is the 500wuzhong one with 1/2 ktv 1/2 sauna one, but I have a feeling it might be the same.

Does anyone have any idea where this place is? Anyone seen this billboard / sauna or better yet, been to this?

Any greatful souls who point the right way will be rewarded with a juicy line by line pump by pump field report, I'm gettin bored of ropes.

Et888
01-29-07, 15:54
Hi Guys,

Is it possible to ask for a girl diectly by call. Do you have some pone numbers to book a girl to come to your hotel. Before there was a web site bodymassage with a phone number but now it's closed.

Which are the bars in Shanghai where it's possible to pick up a chinese girl.

I'm a french man and don't speak chinese.Hi Legigi,

Can you speak Mandarin? I had a local contact, PM me if you want.

Bonzo1
01-29-07, 16:53
See my comments below (had to type this to get the message posted)...


Guys I will be in Shanghai nights of Feb 14, 16 and 17 - just an update on info if you can help?

Does Zapatas still have 'ladies night' on Wednesday nights?

=== absolutely!

How is 'Bourbon Street' these days?

=== Same as always. Both free local talent + working gals near bar.

How is 'Park 97' these days?

=== Also about same as always. Mostly free talent, usually pretty easy to at least get digits there.

Is 'Manhattan Bar' still operating on Maoming Lu?

=== No idea, but Manhattan on TR lu is hoping like nuts with P4P, as is Judy's 2.

Thanks in advance guys.

Bad Boy Billy
01-29-07, 22:14
See my comments below (had to type this to get the message posted)...

Thanks Bonzo for your help - I love those bars.

Something special about a bar full of hookers - is it the 'pussy aroma'?

I just love it.

Lex Moon
01-30-07, 03:28
I went for a basement massage place opposite Howard Johnson or Motel 168 (Yan'an Rd). The place didn't quote me for any extras so I chat with the massage gal and ask her out for dinner. She asked her boss for permission & took 1hr off. Since it is impossible to have fun in 1 hr, I decided to take her out for dinner only. As soon as we walked the massage place, she hugged my arm. Sensing this good sign, I asked her if she is free after work. She had to work until 2am. I told her that I pick her up after work and she agreed. We went for our dinner and sent her back. Picked her up again at 2am. Took her to my hotel, took shower together. She gave a very good body rub during the shower. She was quite inexperienced but not a virgin. Pussy was tight and wet. BBBJ, DATY, kiss and various position. She was definitely very horny and moan quite loudly. Had to use a pillow to cover her. Did her once at night and another in the morning. As we never talked about money, she didn's asked for it to. Took her for breakfast and had to push RMB400 into her pocket. Told her that it was for her to buy some nice clothes when I see her again next time. I think most Chinese gals are quite open to sex if asked politely. Would like to know if anyone finds this true (I have very limited experience in Shanghai).

Aisin Gioro
01-30-07, 09:51
Would like to know if anyone finds this true (I have very limited experience in Shanghai).My experience (only Shanghai):

I've been here for exactly one month. I'm over 25 but not yet 30 years old, decent looking but not an athlete or a model. I do have some features Asian ladies seem to like anywhere I go, namely curly hair, quite a "high nose" and others. Try to dress nice, but don't usually wear suits, definitely not if I'm going out, even after work. I don't show off thicks bunches of 100 RMBs, gold watches or other status-defined-by-appearance-stuff. I always try to speak Mandarin, eat and generally speaking do as the locals, but there is a lot of local BS that I just don't take in my daily life and relations and I don't hesitate to speak my mind out on these issues.

My first trip based on the ISG info granted me FOC access to one of the girls in Jin Yuan Sauna. I just needed to behave decently and be straight about my intentions. I don't need to toss bills at her to enjoy her company, just do the normal things: if we go for lunch (dinner time she's working, when she comes over after work we don't go anywhere), I pay. If we take a taxi, I pay. But I don't buy her clothes, accessories or anything, even less give her cash.

Three weekends ago I first went to the Sunny Island sauna. Chit chat with the masseuse (white suit, just the regular service), wrote my name and phone number on a paper and ta-da, she calls after xiaban. Yes, visits after 1 am may seem inconvenient, but this is literally home delivery and completely FOC: there's no place to take her to at that time! Alright, I admit, usually I give her some instant noodles and orange juice.

I picked up one girl at Zapata's two weekends ago. Same story, although this one talks about marriage too much and she's about to go. No money, clothes, etc. except for one Bacardi breezer for her and another for her friend to break the ice and start the chit-chat (man, they are expensive at Zapata's, though). Of course, I pay dinner and taxis.

This weekend I went to buy some computer stuff at the Pacific Mall in Xujiahui. Ended up picking up the sales-girl. Dinner and taxis.

Tuesdays are for my Asiafind honeypot (got her ready before arriving, working on several more), and Wednesdays for one Japanese girl introduced to me by one of my collegues (I happen to have lived in Japan and "wanted to refresh my Japanese"), although maybe this one doesn't count as she's not Chinese. Coffee, dinner, taxis.

Man, I just don't have the time to stop and try to pick up all the girls, attendants, fuwuyuan, sales-chicks and generally speaking females here who smile when I pass by, laugh at the silliest comment I make in my broken Chinese, and give any other sort of sign of openness. It is true, though, that the react more than act: I don't spare an intense, meaningful look as they pass by, nor a hot-as-I-can smile and some sweet comment when they bring the bill, nor a slight contact on the bus.

In short, yes, they are quite open if you are polite but straightforward. And I thank them for being as straighforward as that too when they want money, marriage or other things. Probably that's what makes it all smooth.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Aisin Gioro
01-30-07, 10:42
Hey Billy

I hit Manhattan and Chicago bars on Maoming Lu some ten days ago. It was a weekday, so the whole thing was quite dead. But both places had some "resident" girls working. The ones at Chicago were especially young and hot.

Bonzo1
01-30-07, 12:58
Totally agree. No sweat, and have a ball (not literally of course .. this isn't Thailand).



Thanks Bonzo for your help - I love those bars.

Something special about a bar full of hookers - is it the 'pussy aroma'?

I just love it.

Seira Seira
01-30-07, 13:53
Hi pussy lovers!

I will be in Purple Mountain Hotel shortly, I picked it reading your comments, much better than others. Can anybody give me an updated info on service inside the hotel? Also anybody knows a CLEAN place close to there for oil massage with final surprise (BJ or FS)? Look for goodlooking young chicks and nice place. Just to relax a bit after work, nothing wild.

Thank you everybody.

Phenyl
01-30-07, 17:16
here is my first post - i've been reading the forum for quite a while and have found it to be incredibly helpful.

went to the famous shanghai hotel sauna tonight, this was my second visit in the past two months. some reports sounds quite good, but my experience has been so-so. tonight had a lovely dongbei girl, very tall and with an exquisite and slim body. the line up was only about 5 girls, and none of them looked too enthusiastic - a lot of downcast eyes, with the "please don't pick me" vibe.

like many others, i found that going with the stunner doesn't always produce stunning results. everything was quite mechanical, like she was marking tasks off of a checklist. cbj had only one speed - hyperdrive. no subtlety. the view in the mirror was good, though.

overall, pretty similar to my first foray there in november. i'll probably give it another shot (so to speak) on my next visit to shanghai, maybe three is the charm. although there are many other places to check out, and i'd like to try to add some new content.

somewhat off topic, i had an excellent thai massage at cheng cheng massage (from the hilton, go up julu lu to the next intersection, cross the street, turn left - it is in the high rise right next to the elevated highway. two hours, and got twisted and turned in more ways than i thought possible. if only the dongbei girl at the sauna had done so much... i didn't try for an additional service, since after two hours of getting pummelled with a thai massage, i would be afraid to let the girl (amy, #28) anywhere near my sensitive parts.

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Albert Punter
01-30-07, 18:28
Weren't you supposed to stay at Shanghai Central Hotel ?

Anyhow, to get info about services inside Purple Hotel and in the nearby area please click on SEARCH THIS THREAD, almost on top right corner of this page, and insert Purple in the search field.


Hi pussy lovers!

I will be in Purple Mountain Hotel shortly, I picked it reading your comments, much better than others. Can anybody give me an updated info on service inside the hotel? Also anybody knows a CLEAN place close to there for oil massage with final surprise (BJ or FS)? Look for goodlooking young chicks and nice place. Just to relax a bit after work, nothing wild.

Thank you everybody.

Unknown One
01-30-07, 19:59
Hi, Unknown One,

I was at Wuzhong Lu 500 today and I am 99, 9% sure I met this girl, too. 'Sugar' is not sweet enough to describe her from my point of view. It was simply the best GFE in a Shanghai sauna I have ever had. After I asked her at the end of our session (she even speaks a little English), the manager (!) gave me her card with her mobile phone number. Very tempting.

SJ

So you met sugar, I did leave enough information to find her. But I just didnt want to spell it out and reward only those who investigate further :)
But you are right, the best damn GFE experience possible for a paid girl I must agree. So let us keep it between us before she gets used up. I think you found her alright, because sugar is the only word to describe this girl.
Regarding the 5th floor KTV, Im not big on KTVs and since I often go solo on lone wolf hunting missions, I dont think KTV is a viable option. You never know, maybe one of these days I will be summoned to another of the gangs get togethers (I say summoned because usually I tend to only show up to the "get over here or you are fired" gatherings) and we will all head over to 500 WuZhong Lu and then KTV might be possible if the leaders want to do it.

Unknown One
01-30-07, 20:05
I forgot to mention that Sugar loves to bite. She cannot stop kissing and biting. I mean it too. She left marks on my shoulder. Did you feel the pinch SJ?

Aisin Gioro
01-31-07, 02:52
I definitely propose LTT's compilation as MVP (most valuable post) on the thread so far.

I had thought about doing it, but I'm also compiling all the business-related Mandarin expressions lists on the language thread and it's exhausting enough (not just to scan through the forum, but especially to edit and format the results into something readable and useful), so I just gave up before starting with the places list.

Now it's all about keeping the list up to date.

Thank you so much for the effort!

Tango Foxtwo
01-31-07, 08:02
I think most Chinese gals are quite open to sex if asked politely. Would like to know if anyone finds this true (I have very limited experience in Shanghai).Polite is the key. All my contacts were with CLEAR intentions but very polite. They know what I can do and cannot do (take them back to US or marry them).

Some like short term relationships, some like longer term with the understanding that it will not go serious. I will never meet their family and if it OK with them, then we'll take off.

I find that Chinese girls like older (more mature) guys. If you're under 30, but with mature thinking (most international players fall into this category) its even better.

One thing, dressed to kill always has better batting average. Dress and look like a local and get strike out. Dress casual american style (under 30) and you will have a good time. PS Dress in Suite with jeans and you're calling yourself American. Chinese will never do that. Smile and its an invitation. Open doors and hold arms when walking up/down stairs and they fall on you.

They like men who's been trained by previous women and they get to benefit the rewards. Simple things like being polite, foreplay, having the girl FLY and passion. Guys who shoot on demand or can prolong it on command are considered supermen.

As for compensation, I always find a reason to give her something. RMB for her to buy present for sister, new year shopping etc. It leaves room for me to leave without guilt.

Levitian
01-31-07, 08:20
Aisin,

I have a natural aversion against superlatives, particularly in this case, because it does dishonor the incredible amount of contributions made by others to a certain extent, and ... in the end of the day, it is only a collection of those contributions. Still, it is very honorable that somebody from time to time - in this case LTT - invests in time and effort to collect and re-post those contributions.

Still, just to show you that others before did great jobs here in collecting information:http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=437583&postcount=4772

My POV

Levitian

Xiangjiao
01-31-07, 08:41
I went for a basement massage place opposite Howard Johnson or Motel 168 (Yan'an Rd). The place didn't quote me for any extras so I chat with the massage gal and ask her out for dinner. She asked her boss for permission & took 1hr off. Since it is impossible to have fun in 1 hr, I decided to take her out for dinner only. As soon as we walked the massage place, she hugged my arm. Sensing this good sign, I asked her if she is free after work. She had to work until 2am. I told her that I pick her up after work and she agreed. We went for our dinner and sent her back. Picked her up again at 2am. Took her to my hotel, took shower together. She gave a very good body rub during the shower. She was quite inexperienced but not a virgin. Pussy was tight and wet. BBBJ, DATY, kiss and various position. She was definitely very horny and moan quite loudly. Had to use a pillow to cover her. Did her once at night and another in the morning. As we never talked about money, she didn's asked for it to. Took her for breakfast and had to push RMB400 into her pocket. Told her that it was for her to buy some nice clothes when I see her again next time. I think most Chinese gals are quite open to sex if asked politely. Would like to know if anyone finds this true (I have very limited experience in Shanghai).

Nice work. Only she wasn't a paid provider, so you shouldn't have shoved her the RMB400. It sets a bad precedent. It's best not to give her cash anymore. Sex with you should be her reward for taking time off work or coming to see you after work. In fact, just b/c she doesn't have money, doesn't mean she can't pay you in other more mundane ways. Ask her to make dinner for you or make breakfast. This will then set a good precedent. If you really want, you can buy her a small gift, but no more cash, man.

Aisin Gioro, thanks for posting your freebie experience. Are you keeping these girls as long-term f-buddies? I continue to pay for the big things like restaurants, trips, etc., but I make sure she gives a commensurate service (and sex doesn't count)--cooking meals (home-cooked meals are great, even in China), doing my laundry and ironing, giving me legit massages, running various errands, etc.

I too am basically juggling freebies (most culled from KTVs and massage places) right now, so haven't had any FRs to post lately. Maybe there should be a separate freebies thread.

Ace Gallant
01-31-07, 08:45
I definitely propose LTT's compilation as MVP (most valuable post) on the thread so far.


Thank you so much for the effort!

Aisin,

Let me give you something that is more hush.

Please don't insult all other members who had put in good posts that attributes to the world of information on the Shanghai thread.

The Shanghai Threads is the most well posted board which has 7774 posts, are you saying that a summary of information from all this posts are better the all the 7000 over post itself?

As Levtian pointed out one of the example: by David Xyzzy post number 4772. It is also a very good post. It includes details of places etc.

Thinking about doing it is not good enough; you got to do it!

AG

Aisin Gioro
01-31-07, 12:54
To whom it may concern:

One. By "thread" I meant "page". I keep forgetting the forum's structure and in my head each "conversation" equates "thread" and "thread" equates "forum" or "message board". My bad.

Two. In any case, feeling insulted by the praise from one poster to a third party is, how would I say -- childish.

Three. If it's not one feeling insulted himself, but one feeling the compulsive need to scold someone else for praising a third party just in case his praise might be insulting for another third party -- then childish becomes comical. At least among adults.

Four. In any case, overreacting is always stupid, no matter what, even if one is right.

Oh, two, three and four render a clear result: who is the forum spoiler?

This conversation is finished.

Seira Seira
01-31-07, 13:52
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=437583&postcount=4772

If you are a beginner in Shanghai or China in general just read this post, everything will be more clear. Thank you for the great job to the author.

Shanghai Jack
01-31-07, 16:13
I forgot to mention that Sugar loves to bite. She cannot stop kissing and biting. I mean it too. She left marks on my shoulder. Did you feel the pinch SJ?Hi Unknown One,

I went again today and found out she is from Cheng Du. So obviously she is not sweet as sugar but hot and spicy. And yes, a KTV evening with the gang on the 5th floor sounds like fun - count me in.

Have fun, SJ

Lex Moon
01-31-07, 21:13
Nice work. .....This will then set a good precedent. If you really want, you can buy her a small gift, but no more cash, man.Xiagjiao. Thank you very much for your advise. Will not give any money next time. I also found another girl (an office worker). She showed me around Shanghai and spend a night with me. I didn't pay her anything. She even wanted to pay for a restaurant bill which I disallowed. Young, average look, average skill but very very wet pussy and GFE. Seems that Shanghai girls are very open. Freebies everywhere!

Xiangjiao
02-01-07, 02:23
Xiagjiao. Thank you very much for your advise. Will not give any money next time. I also found another girl (an office worker). She showed me around Shanghai and spend a night with me. I didn't pay her anything. She even wanted to pay for a restaurant bill which I disallowed. Young, average look, average skill but very very wet pussy and GFE. Seems that Shanghai girls are very open. Freebies everywhere!

Lex Moon,
Great work. Next time, if she offers to pay, of course, first get into the, "No baby, I'll pay," back and forth, but then if she offers a couple more times, then let her pay, and then take her home and rock her world... for hours and hours. Give her more sexual pleasure than she's ever had (or try your best anyway). Her reward is sex with you! Once you have that mindset, everything becomes easier.

This is also something I'm working on too, but when I'm in that mindset, everything flows so easily. She'll buy me expensive presents (she has to b/c I have expensive tastes), cook and clean, do my laundry, and in return, she can stay the night at my place and have sex with me. Under-reward her, and your value rises in her eyes. If she buys me dinner, I say, "Thank you baby," and give her a light kiss. She then realizes that sex with me is much more valuable than a dinner. Paying for dinner only got her a kiss. In this way, I turn the tables on her. This is how hot girls act. They expect you to buy them all sorts of things, and only then will they have sex with you. But it's possible to get hot girls to see you as the more valuable person by under-rewarding her. Reward a dinner with a kiss; reward her doing the laundry or cooking with a kiss, ... and ultimately, if she's been good all day, with sex that night ... and morning ;)

Ace Gallant
02-01-07, 02:51
I will be summoned to another of the gangs get togethers (I say summoned because usually I tend to only show up to the "get over here or you are fired" gatherings) and we will all head over to 500 WuZhong Lu and then KTV might be possible if the leaders want to do it.

That is because you had been missing out on the pass 5 gang meetings.

AG

Lotstotalk
02-01-07, 05:17
I definitely propose LTT's compilation as MVP (most valuable post) on the thread so far.

I had thought about doing it, but I'm also compiling all the business-related Mandarin expressions lists on the language thread and it's exhausting enough (not just to scan through the forum, but especially to edit and format the results into something readable and useful), so I just gave up before starting with the places list.

Now it's all about keeping the list up to date.

Thank you so much for the effort!Aisin,

Thanks for the nice words. I am looking forward for the trip. Btw, do I need to configure my computer differently in order to visit ISG from China?

Bonzo1
02-01-07, 07:08
AG - you are being way too sensitive. It was a compliment anyway. Chill out and let people have fun here, in their own way.

Peace.

-B-



Aisin,

Let me give you something that is more hush.

Please don't insult all other members who had put in good posts that attributes to the world of information on the Shanghai thread.

The Shanghai Threads is the most well posted board which has 7774 posts, are you saying that a summary of information from all this posts are better the all the 7000 over post itself?

As Levtian pointed out one of the example: by David Xyzzy post number 4772. It is also a very good post. It includes details of places etc.

Thinking about doing it is not good enough; you got to do it!

AG

Eazy Guy
02-01-07, 07:24
Yesterday I have been to a new outlet at Wen Ding Lu 218 so called "Zhong Jin Shu Zui Ba", this is a place where is similar to most of KTVs in Shanghai there are a hall and private rooms at the back. I saw a few BDMs and girls who are formally in 100'c at Kai Xuan Lu working there, according to them the place has been newly renovated about RMB50,000,000! I have found that the setup is cool due to the sound system they are using, I think it must be true that the owner have spent that much of money for the renovations. For sure, the charges there are also higher than other places, at least when compared with 100'c.

The charges are as below:

Room charges: RMB1,380 (The smallest size as I have been with a friend only)
Girls tips: RMB1,000 (RMB500 X 2)
BDM tips: RMB300
Waiter tips: RMB300

Total: RMB3,000

Overall this KTV is a good place to hang out as everything is still new except those girls are from some other KTVs so you and me might saw them before. Maybe for Shanghai thread fellow mongers, we should organize a gathering before Chinese New Year over there.

Cockburn
02-01-07, 07:40
Ah!!! I landed in Shanghai for a 1 day visit, sorry to the Gang that I am unable to contact you as I was on a super tight schedule. Special apologies to the "King of ISG": Ace as I broke my promise that you be the first person to know once I landed in Shanghai again.

I stay in Jiang Tian Bing Guan in Pudong on Pudong Da Dao this trip as I had to choose a reasonable price hotel (4 stars) close to my supplier and the airport. I thought that this trip here will be totally business and will have no time to monger but I was wrong!

At around 10pm my phone rang and the girl on the phone asks me whether I want a massage? She turns out to be from the hotel's massage service. I needed a massage bad as my back was aching from my 14 hours flight into Shanghai so I agreed. 5 mins later the girl turn up at the door and I swear she is the sweetest looking girl I had seen for months! At this moment I was thinking, shit! How nice it would be if I am able to get FS from her! To my surprise, she starts to help me undress and when she reaches my underpants, she gave me the cheeky look with a dirty smile in her face saying “I hope you are not too big.” That gave me the ideal that she is available for FS. Next moment I was naked on the bed face down having a massage on my back. The massage was just average but I notice she pays special attention to my groins and when she reach between my legs, she would purposely brush her hands against me balls! Face massage was done with a hard on as she smile which totally gave me a melt down! She loses no time and grabs hold of my hard on and asked whether what king of special service I need. Price was 200 for a HJ, 400 for a BJ and 800 for a FS. Thanks to the fact that I RTFF and all the good post on the board I knew that was not to price so I negotiated the price down to 400 for a FS. FS was just ok apart from the fact that I came in 5 mins because she had a really tight pussy and also from the fact that she was dead on sweet looking. Her skills were not too great.

I am off to Beijing today and I’ll like to say; this trip to Shanghai I was pleased to have had a surprise reward as I was not planning to get laid due to the short timing.


To whom it may concern:

One. By "thread" I meant "page". I keep forgetting the forum's structure and in my head each "conversation" equates "thread" and "thread" equates "forum" or "message board". My bad.

Two. In any case, feeling insulted by the praise from one poster to a third party is, how would I say -- childish.

Three. If it's not one feeling insulted himself, but one feeling the compulsive need to scold someone else for praising a third party just in case his praise might be insulting for another third party -- then childish becomes comical. At least among adults.

Four. In any case, overreacting is always stupid, no matter what, even if one is right.

Oh, two, three and four render a clear result: who is the forum spoiler?

This conversation is finished.You got to be joking to be calling the "King" childish and forum spoiler. I agree fully with the King that there are many great reports contributed by other members, including the King. It is though these reports that I did not get ripped of in China. By saying that the compilation of all these information is far the most useful report on the Shanghai threads, you are saying that information copied from others is better than the original. I do not see why that can be true. I had met the King once I would understand the reason why he is so defensive over those members of the forum. He basically runs the Shanghai board and make sure those contributors get recognized for their efforts and not some idiot like you who have nothing better to do but to put up posting just to fame others. Since this is Childish, why will you even consider to fight back? Wouldn't that's a sign that you are just as childish?

I am sure a lot of others who had met the “King” would agree. In case you do not know how he became the “King” I advice you to RTFF the other threads in China board. A great example will be Dong Guang threads.

CB

Blacklisted
02-01-07, 09:46
Your allegiance to AG is without reproach!

May your cock always stand proud before discounting massage girls and never, ever, burn too painfully.

Here's to you, and please, next time plan for a night out so that we may all treat you to an extensive pleasure session with our most highly regarded bar harlots.

Albert Punter
02-01-07, 13:30
No need to configure your laptop in a different way while you are here.

Long time ago some members reported difficulties in accessing ISG while here. However, that problem wasn't due to computer's configuration but to other issues and has not been reported anymore recently.


Btw, do I need to configure my computer differently in order to visit ISG from China?

Albert Punter
02-01-07, 13:36
No, we are not childish, we were just envious.

We wanted you to mention one of our posts as MVP.


Two. In any case, feeling insulted by the praise from one poster to a third party is, how would I say -- childish.

Diego Milito
02-01-07, 15:24
Hi,

Thx for writing. I'm 26yrs old Shanghai girl, I speak good English, I have a happy and fun personality,and open-minded. I like to make new friends, travelling, learn new stuff and diffrent culture. I am fun person, I like to smile and laugh.

I'd love to be your personal guide when you in town,but it need to pay. Charge 200rmb (26usd) per hour for sightseeing / dining / nightlife / acompny for shopping(3hours minimum,exclude transport fee), whole day guide service+ dinner/nightlife companion charge 1000rmb(127usd). I will tell you more about my serive if you can send me one of your pic thx. Where are you from? Are you coming to SH for vacation or business?

Lily

Unknown One
02-01-07, 18:51
I am sure a lot of others who had met the “King” would agree. In case you do not know how he became the “King” I advice you to RTFF the other threads in China board. A great example will be Dong Guang threads.

CB

See, its this constant flattery that has rendered Ace to be absolutely reckless. He is surreptitiously grafting GPS tracers into us people! Stop calling him king before he actually begins assembling his army for global domination! I didnt realize I had one inserted in my back until the metal detectors kept going off at customs even when I was already butt naked with all my clothes wrapped in a ball covering my front and back. The girls at the booth were having a great time.....

Unknown One
02-01-07, 18:56
That is because you had been missing out on the pass 5 gang meetings.

AG

This construction project is killing me. I havent had a good night out forever. Besides the last few times we went out you n Blackie have all been hell bent on hitting up bars for college girls. I cant handle more of these LTR's right now. Let me finish this project, then I should be free again, bars, saunas, whatever.

JonnyBGood
02-01-07, 18:56
I have been to Shanghai many times, however never stayed here so not sure what mongering is nearby? Any help is appreciated!

Unknown One
02-01-07, 19:09
To whom it may concern:

One. By "thread" I meant "page". I keep forgetting the forum's structure and in my head each "conversation" equates "thread" and "thread" equates "forum" or "message board". My bad.

Two. In any case, feeling insulted by the praise from one poster to a third party is, how would I say -- childish.

Three. If it's not one feeling insulted himself, but one feeling the compulsive need to scold someone else for praising a third party just in case his praise might be insulting for another third party -- then childish becomes comical. At least among adults.

Four. In any case, overreacting is always stupid, no matter what, even if one is right.

Oh, two, three and four render a clear result: who is the forum spoiler?

This conversation is finished.


You ever notice how standard defensive maneuvers to inflammatory comments on boards are always non pragmatic incoherent sentances that are created to sound indifferently intellegent? WHAT???? Man I had to get out my English to English dictionary to understand what you wrote man. I swear what you wrote reads like a contract, or a lobbying bill being passed into congress.
But anywho, dont worry about Ace. He really is a nice guy but loves to give new guys a hard time. Apart from his surveillance abilities he is quite alright.

Shanghai Jack
02-01-07, 19:56
After a long and busy day, I decided to relax at the Ji Yuan Salon.

This time, I met number 99 from Dongbei. I don't know but somehow I like these girls from Northern China - cute, slim, tall and somehow more funny than the others.

She was very passionate about kissing and licking, one of the best tongue baths ever. Also excellent blow job skills. FS was so so, she complained about the size and suggested to finish off with Blow Job and COF.

Her wish was my command.

So if you are into this kind of action, I recommend number 99. Otherwise forget it.

Have fun,

SJ

P.S.: Although it was not so busy, I had to pay before the action and did not change my clothes. So it seems that after midnight you not only have to pay first, you also don't change your clothes. To be honest, I prefer this.

Blacklisted
02-02-07, 06:47
You ever notice how standard defensive maneuvers to inflammatory comments on boards are always non pragmatic incoherent sentances that are created to sound indifferently intellegent? WHAT???? Man I had to get out my English to English dictionary to understand what you wrote man. I swear what you wrote reads like a contract, or a lobbying bill being passed into congress.
But anywho, dont worry about Ace. He really is a nice guy but loves to give new guys a hard time. Apart from his surveillance abilities he is quite alright.

Who follows up a statement like 'My bad' with a statement like, "If it's not one feeling insulted himself, but one feeling the compulsive need to scold someone else for praising a third party just in case his praise might be insulting for another third party -- then childish becomes comical. At least among adults."

I mean, for fuck's sake, how much of a try hard do you want to be.

Also, I nominate this report as Most Valued Post.

Unknown One: Man, how many times do you want to skip out on a night out with the crew because of "work". Jeez, where are your priorities.

Anyway, onus on you now mate, I have deleted your ass from my phone due to unanswered requests for your companionship on our hunts for uni girl pussy. Ha ha!

You must redeem yourself. Oh, got to go, that microchip in my cock is itching again... If that really is a microchip and not some ZY Bar girls tooth that got stuck in during a BJ!!

Eazy Guy
02-02-07, 08:23
dear fellow mongers,

any idea where to go this weekend? for the group of shanghai thread, could I ask for your permissions to join the gang? I am interested with uni girls. hehehe......

eg

Ace Gallant
02-02-07, 09:13
dear fellow mongers,

any idea where to go this weekend? for the group of shanghai thread, could I ask for your permissions to join the gang? I am interested with uni girls. hehehe......

eg

You are aware of the application, screening and initiation procedures mentioned by "the Unknown one" many times do you?

AG

Albert Punter
02-02-07, 13:33
As you have been to Shanghai many times, you should know the city already.
So, please report some of your previous mongering experiences, specifying what sort of activity you prefer, so that we will be induced to help.


I have been to Shanghai many times, however never stayed here so not sure what mongering is nearby? Any help is appreciated!

Oldtimer43
02-02-07, 14:06
Although I have made a few entrys here this is my first real report.

A little about myself, I do fall into the catagory that everyone loves to mock...ie nearly mid 60s and overweight however that doesn't make me a bad person and my needs and urges are the same as everyone else on here.

I didn't really start mongering until my late 50s and have been to Tahiland and Indonesia many times and am well aquainted with the situations over there.

However although I have been to China a few times on business this is the first time that I have been able to indulge in our hobby over there.

This report falls far short from a lot of others as I didn't take down names of places but that is something I shall remedy the next time I go.

I don't speak any Chinese at all so although I have no problems in say somewhere in Thailand, again not speaking any Thai or Indonesia where I do have a smattering of Bahasa I do think it would be a bit difficult in China if I had been on my own.

I was with a Chinese friend who is my agent for my business and after us talking around the subject for a while as he said he didn't want to embbarress me or make me feel uncomfortable he suggested we went to a Sauna he used.

As I said I didn't take down address's etc so I can't give exact details other than it was fairly close to a large sports stadium.

I would never have known the sauna was there as apart from the Chinese writing there was no indication at all however it was right on a main steet. A doorman showed us into a lift and we went up to the second floor where we were greeted and shown into a locker area to get undressed. It was a little disconsurting at first to have male attendants helping you undress but I soon got over that and went and had a shower, after that we proceeded to the next room where there was a very large pool full of warm water.

After relaxing in the pool for 10 minutes we made use of the Sauna directly beside it and then went for another shower. We were then given pyjamas to put on and showed up to the next floor.

We went into a quiet relaxing room with laid back comfortable seats and a TV and were given drinks and snacks, by now I was very relaxed and looking forward to what was to come.

After about 15 minutes we were shown up to the next floor where a lady intoduced herself as the mamasan. She took us along a passage and into a room where there were about 15 girls lined up. I think we were very lucky getting there at that time of day (around 5pm) to have such a good choice.

Being the guest I was allowed to choose first, to be fair there were a few girls that I wouldn't have been keen on but there were at least 6-7 who I found very attractive. However from long experience looks are not enough and I do like to see if I can get some interaction when choosing. As it turned out the one real stunner in the room was also the one ging me plenty of eye contact and smiles so it was not a hard choice.

She was about 20 years old dressed in white with a very short skirt, she quicly took hold of my hand and lead me through a maze of corridors to a private room.

Once inside we tried communicating however with her having no English and me no Chinese this was all done with plenty of laughter.

I got undressed and lay on the table wand watched as she got undressed as well. She had a fabulous body with firm A/B cup breasts slim and very white skin.

She started on my back gargling water and licking the whole of my body before massaging me with her body and tits with oil. After turning over and getting licked all over ending with my balls and prick she started to give me a wonderful BBBJ she then filled her mouth with hot water and then iced water alternativlely which sent me completely over the edge and I came in her mouth.

I was silently cursing myself that I had come so quickly when she went and put her skirt and top back on, she offered me a cigarette which I refused as I don't smoke but indicated that it was OK for her to have one and she sat on the bed and we relaxed for 10 minutes.

At that point I thought it was all going to be over but she was still very friendly and after a couple of minutes took my hand and put it inside her top to cup her breast.

That was all the indication I needed and I very soon had her top down and her skirt up and started into a quite prolonged bout of foreplay, during the DATY she came quite violantly. By this time I was hard again we had sex in pretty much every position and I managed a second time with her legs wrapped round my neck.

Afterwards she was in no hurry to leave and we spent around 20 minutes trying to teach each other English and Chinese. We were both as bad as each other in forgetting nearly as quickly as we learnt a new word.

I think the only ones that stuck with me were her name Yong Chi and the word for nose which sounded like Bead both of these I have probably spelt wrong!

After leaving I went downstairs into the relaxing room again and met up with my friend, he ordered some food and we spent another hour there before leaving.

Everything was included in one price which my friend paid as we left, unfortuanetely I don't know how much it was although looking at the money as it was being put through a money counter I would guess at maybe 500-700 each.

I was there for a total of nearly four and a half hours and had a wonderful time with a really friendly girl. I just can't wait to go back again. Maybe in September.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Bad Boy Billy
02-02-07, 23:55
Although I have made a few entrys here this is my first real report.

A little about myself, I do fall into the catagory that everyone loves to mock...ie nearly mid 60s and overweight however that doesn't make me a bad person and my needs and urges are the same as everyone else on here.

I didn't really start mongering until my late 50s and have been to Tahiland and Indonesia many times and am well aquainted with the situations over there.

However although I have been to China a few times on business this is the first time that I have been able to indulge in our hobby over there.

This report falls far short from a lot of others as I didn't take down names of places but that is something I shall remedy the next time I go.

I don't speak any Chinese at all so although I have no problems in say somewhere in Thailand, again not speaking any Thai or Indonesia where I do have a smattering of Bahasa I do think it would be a bit difficult in China if I had been on my own.

I was with a Chinese friend who is my agent for my business and after us talking around the subject for a while as he said he didn't want to embbarress me or make me feel uncomfortable he suggested we went to a Sauna he used.

As I said I didn't take down address's etc so I can't give exact details other than it was fairly close to a large sports stadium.

I would never have known the sauna was there as apart from the Chinese writing there was no indication at all however it was right on a main steet. A doorman showed us into a lift and we went up to the second floor where we were greeted and shown into a locker area to get undressed. It was a little disconsurting at first to have male attendants helping you undress but I soon got over that and went and had a shower, after that we proceeded to the next room where there was a very large pool full of warm water.

After relaxing in the pool for 10 minutes we made use of the Sauna directly beside it and then went for another shower. We were then given pyjamas to put on and showed up to the next floor.

We went into a quiet relaxing room with laid back comfortable seats and a TV and were given drinks and snacks, by now I was very relaxed and looking forward to what was to come.

After about 15 minutes we were shown up to the next floor where a lady intoduced herself as the mamasan. She took us along a passage and into a room where there were about 15 girls lined up. I think we were very lucky getting there at that time of day (around 5pm) to have such a good choice.

Being the guest I was allowed to choose first, to be fair there were a few girls that I wouldn't have been keen on but there were at least 6-7 who I found very attractive. However from long experience looks are not enough and I do like to see if I can get some interaction when choosing. As it turned out the one real stunner in the room was also the one ging me plenty of eye contact and smiles so it was not a hard choice.

She was about 20 years old dressed in white with a very short skirt, she quicly took hold of my hand and lead me through a maze of corridors to a private room.

Once inside we tried communicating however with her having no English and me no Chinese this was all done with plenty of laughter.

I got undressed and lay on the table wand watched as she got undressed as well. She had a fabulous body with firm A/B cup breasts slim and very white skin.

She started on my back gargling water and licking the whole of my body before massaging me with her body and tits with oil. After turning over and getting licked all over ending with my balls and prick she started to give me a wonderful BBBJ she then filled her mouth with hot water and then iced water alternativlely which sent me completely over the edge and I came in her mouth.

I was silently cursing myself that I had come so quickly when she went and put her skirt and top back on, she offered me a cigarette which I refused as I don't smoke but indicated that it was OK for her to have one and she sat on the bed and we relaxed for 10 minutes.

At that point I thought it was all going to be over but she was still very friendly and after a couple of minutes took my hand and put it inside her top to cup her breast.

That was all the indication I needed and I very soon had her top down and her skirt up and started into a quite prolonged bout of foreplay, during the DATY she came quite violantly. By this time I was hard again we had sex in pretty much every position and I managed a second time with her legs wrapped round my neck.

Afterwards she was in no hurry to leave and we spent around 20 minutes trying to teach each other English and Chinese. We were both as bad as each other in forgetting nearly as quickly as we learnt a new word.

I think the only ones that stuck with me were her name Yong Chi and the word for nose which sounded like Bead both of these I have probably spelt wrong!

After leaving I went downstairs into the relaxing room again and met up with my friend, he ordered some food and we spent another hour there before leaving.

Everything was included in one price which my friend paid as we left, unfortuanetely I don't know how much it was although looking at the money as it was being put through a money counter I would guess at maybe 500-700 each.

I was there for a total of nearly four and a half hours and had a wonderful time with a really friendly girl. I just can't wait to go back again. Maybe in September.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Mate

Great report for your first effort - unfortuately all of us reading this are now just 'dying" to know where it was?

All other POTENTIAL REPORTERS - simple solution - grab a business card from the counter on WAY IN or WAY OUT - slip it in your pocket - scan it later and post it with your report.

This is the single most important component of GOOD REPORTS which will benefit ALL brothers in future.

Aisin Gioro
02-03-07, 08:04
OK, gents.

According to my posting policy: new weekend, new post, new venue (bath-and-more section).

This time my local friend and I wanted to try some new place, and keep it as low budget as possible within a reasonable sanitary standard. So we randomly chose one non-central district on the map, took the subway and walked around just to see if we could find something useful.

The Gu Lang Yu is located in Hong Kou District ( 虹口区 hong2 kou3 qu1), Ouyang Lu, n. 561 ( 欧阳路561号 ).

The building wants to look European and I could well belong to the colonial period: once inside, wooden floors and structures predominate and everything looks pre-WWII.

The bath/sauna procedure is the usual and won't be described here.

I will say, though, that after a short shower I skipped the pools and sauna because I didn't feel comfortable stepping inside them and that the soaps and other hygienic products are rather cheap. Compared to Tai Yang Dao, the place can be labeled as "low scale", if not by the local standards, at least by the Western ones.

The value added is the massage in the bath area. By male masseurs, of course. If you can go through the pain and suffering, they will remove all that dead skin and some of the living one too.

Next, you already know, upstairs one finds the relax area, basically several lines of individual couches and two big TV screens (one with European football, the other one with local TV shows). Here you order tea, beer or whatever.

When you feel like, you can proceed to other areas.

Allow me to stop for one second here.

The hall and the bath are quite small for what I've seen in Shanghai until now. So is the relax area. But now, when you go further, the building becomes an incomprehensible maze of corridors, rooms, halls... huge! I literally lost my way from the relax area to the massage rooms and back, walking past private majiang rooms, bed-rooms, a big dining room and upstairs and down a couple of times. I tried my best to remember, but I'm not sure of all the things you can actually do, although you just need to ask.

The massage rooms are plain bed rooms with an aircon machine, a sofa and of course, one (some have two, hey!) bed. Nothing fancy, but clean enough.

Now comes the turn off: no FS available.

That is unfortunate, I know. So why am I posting this? To satisfy some request I think I read a few weeks ago: massage, body oily massage, 打飞机 (da3 fei1ji1, hand job), and 口交 (kou3 jiao1, blowjob).

They lead you to the room, where you just sit down and wait for the girl to come. If you don't like what you see, send her away and wait for the next one.

I talked to many people, and all of them, from the ass-wipers in the bath area to the very young and very doable mamasan (btw, got her number, professionally, not as a freebie. I hope this will be a valuable contact) insisted that no FS is available there. The formula is similar to the one in Tai Yang Dao, slightly improved:

Basic bath fee: 48 RMB

(various non sexual massage fees and other services here)

248 RMB = oily body massage (OBM). She gets naked and rubs you with her tits etc.

388 RMB = OBM + HJ

588 RMB = OBM + BJ

Prices are fixed and non negotiable, but the male personnel (not the mamasan) insisted that FS should be available after negotiation with the girl (same shit that they male staff at TYD told me). Girls are hot too, better than in TYD, but not as good as JYS, for instance.

In my opinion it is a complete rip-off and politely declined. Probably even for 588 RMB FS service I would have declined. But I understand: when you want an oily massage and BJ, you want an oily massage and BJ. So it's cool to have one place to go specifically for that purpose.

Anyway, instead of wasting more time there, I quickly relocated to HHXC and hired a more than satisfactory LT service. A very open minded Hubei girl who had a great time enjoying the views from my high-rise appartment while I probed her ass (three fingers, not bad at all) and loved to swallow...

Map and directions for those not using taxi:

I didn't mark the place on the map cos it's already marked: it is exactly where they put the little red "square" for the mouth in 虹口 Hongkou. By car, go North along Chengdu Bei Lu to get to Zhongshan Bei Lu ( 中山北路 ), in yellow on the map. Then hit Dalian Lu ( 大连路 ). Can't miss it, both are main roads.

An even better option is taking the subway line 4 to the Hongkou Football Stadium and the walk for a few minutes.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Aisin Gioro
02-03-07, 08:27
Greetings, Oldtimer43

Brother, do you say "mock"? What the hell, I wish when I'm 60-something I have the spirit and stamina to go mongering around the continent and fuck in a variety of positions a hot tight-pussied 20 year old girl. Twice in one hour? I barely can do that now!

Anyway, forget about the names and details. You should give us your local contact's number! Just joking.

Take care,

Aisin Gioro

Andreas Wang
02-03-07, 14:32
A little about myself, I do fall into the catagory that everyone loves to mock...ie nearly mid 60s and overweight however that doesn't make me a bad person and my needs and urges are the same as everyone else on here. I didn't really start mongering until my late 50s and ...Whereas I am a 30 year old who got into mongering during his 20s and am not fat yet.

I think you can stop your apologies right there. ;)

Wish you a lot of fun again next time around in China.

Oldtimer43
02-03-07, 23:55
Mate

Great report for your first effort - unfortuately all of us reading this are now just 'dying" to know where it was?

All other POTENTIAL REPORTERS - simple solution - grab a business card from the counter on WAY IN or WAY OUT - slip it in your pocket - scan it later and post it with your report.

This is the single most important component of GOOD REPORTS which will benefit ALL brothers in future.Yes, I am well aware of that and it won't happen again. I hope to be back there in September so I will do a better job of reporting next time.

There was a couple of bits I seem to have missed out, she spent a fair amount of time on AR and I was wondering how others felt about this. I have to say I'm not to sure whether I like it or not.

The other thing I forgot to say was that my Chinese friend said afterwards did I enjoy the red ropes, I had to tell him I didn't know what he was talking about and he explained and said that the sauna was famous for them. Oh well another thing for next time.

I am off to Bali in a Month's time so I will give another report from there.

Rob Hay
02-05-07, 04:11
Though I would share with you guys a couple of places I have found freebies thats a little bit off the typical monger's path.

O2 club on Hua Hai Xi Lu
G+ club on the 5th floor of Xintiendi


These two places are all local for the most part so some Chinese is helpful. I have 3 freebies out of these 2 places.

My other freebie came from the most unexpected place, the airport. Next time your there check out the air hostess from China Eastern Airlines. The girls working the domestic routes all have one thing in common they're young, cute and making about 2000RMB a month. They are definately more than eager to meet guys.

TangoTwoFox took me to Babyface which is next door to my apartment one evening. This place has potential but less attractive women. I went with a girl that night so didnt really get to work the room. Park 97 I also went with freebie so couldnt work the room, but this place had the most attractive girls i've seen in Shanghai and will be looking to head there myself sometime. Wynn Win club also looked interesting.

I've got a good hookup with the head mamasan and at the KTV on 98 Huau Hai Zhong Lu, free alcohol and she will keep some of the better looking girls in the "green room" for me while I am in route. One of the girls there I have gotten to bring other girls down for me to choose from so that I dont have to actually go in and pay the room fee. If you go here go around 8:30...if you dont the 10s will get taken fast.

Alot of guys and other ktv girls have spoken about THE TOP KTV in China in terms of price and quality 580 Nanjing Xi Lu. 1.8RMB room fee min, 600RMB tip min to mama and waitress, 3.6RMB is the min exit fee and the price goes up from there. Has anyone been??

Ltc Ltc
02-05-07, 05:12
Hi,

In browsing this site I saw an escort/ tourguide site with young ladies email address but now I cannot find anymore.

I saw viplily.com but it was another one. Chinalion.com or something like that where you could corresspond with the ladies.

Can anyone? Search is no good because I cannot remember the name of the site.

Mock A Bee
02-05-07, 10:32
Hi,

In browsing this site I saw an escort/ tourguide site with young ladies email address but now I cannot find anymore.

I saw viplily.com but it was another one. Chinalion.com or something like that where you could corresspond with the ladies.

Can anyone? Search is no good because I cannot remember the name of the site.

Ltc Ltc,

You are so wasting forum members time and your own.
First RTFF and you will realize that most of these services are useless.

Dude, RTFF.

Go ahead and waste your time and money on these "tourguide" services. When you find out firsthand, make sure you return the favor and post a report on the forum.

MAB

Santa
02-05-07, 10:34
Why are you guys so in awe of AG? and what is this drivel you write and post it twice? Don't embarrass yourself.

Some of you guys really need to get a life.

MAB

Ok, I think I know what's going on here. The nurses at the Shanghai Insane Assylum have been mixing LSD in with the viagra, and now the inmates are taking over the isg forum.

Why do they give the inmates viagra? So when they rollover they don't fall out of bed. :D

Albert Punter
02-05-07, 13:48
Rob,

Glad to know you are enjoying !

I don't live far away from that KTV and around 7:30-8:00 PM I always see beautiful girls entering that building.
However, as Golden Bell Plaza Sauna is located in same building, I don't know where they are headed to.
As I am not a KTV nor sauna guy, I never had the chance to explore.

Have you tried G-Spot club, one block east on opposite side of Huai Hai ?



I've got a good hookup with the head mamasan and at the KTV on 98 Huau Hai Zhong Lu, free alcohol and she will keep some of the better looking girls in the "green room" for me while I am in route. One of the girls there I have gotten to bring other girls down for me to choose from so that I dont have to actually go in and pay the room fee. If you go here go around 8:30...if you dont the 10s will get taken fast.

Albert Punter
02-05-07, 13:54
Probably it is www.chinaescort.com or something similar.

As far as I remember, all these "chinese escorts" websites didn't receive good comments.

Maybe you can contact Dragon D, if he is still around, and he can organize something for you.


Hi,

In browsing this site I saw an escort/ tourguide site with young ladies email address but now I cannot find anymore.

I saw viplily.com but it was another one. Chinalion.com or something like that where you could corresspond with the ladies.

Can anyone? Search is no good because I cannot remember the name of the site.

Member #3434
02-06-07, 08:34
Went to 638 Wuzhong lu, 2nd floor for the first time. There was a post by Jman about it sometime back that I read and was compelled to try it out.

Like normal places, started with a shower. I was a bit concerned because I was thinking that each room was supposed to have their own showers and was wondering why I needed to shower first. After I was finished, a couple of guys asked if I wanted to have the extreme rub down massage but I declined to their obvious dissatisfaction. Was first sent to a small waiting room with 2 chairs and a TV and was offered a drink and then finally a line up. I think about 6 girls showed up wearing their customary cheesy outfits and I noticed quickly and to my delight that every girl had at least be sized tits. Woo hoo I thought to myself trying not to let my smile get too big and chose the last one who I was most attracted to. She led me to the room, which she had to use a key card (like a hotel room) to get into and was pleasantly surprised to find that the room did indeed have a bath and shower, a tatami floor main room, and even a separate toilet. Maybe I can check in for a few nights and have her come every few hours to service me or feed me, better yet have a different girl come over every few hours.

She sat me down on the floor mat in the tatami room and went over to the shower room and started preparations. She took the inflatable bed and laid it on the floor in the shower room and started scrubbing it down with a sponge, water and soap. Was wondering why she was doing this before we stared but then had visions of other dirty mongers (no offense) lying on the bed doing their deeds and realized that it was a good idea. Thought about helping her but saw that she was doing a thorough job and had to admit that she was looking very sexy bending over in her tight costume scrubbing away at the air bed. After finishing, she stepped back into the main room, undressed neatly folding her clothes on the tatami floor and then helped me undress while giggling at my hard-on. Hopefully because it was hard, and not because she thought it was small. She started by having me sit on a little stool and lathering me up with soapy water from behind using her hands and tits (Which by the way had to be see cups but definitely looked modified), and then doing the same for my front. After showering, she put the air mattress back on the floor and sprayed it with hot water, I'm guessing to make sure that it was warm and I couldn't help thinking that she was being very considerate. On the mattress I go, face down she says and as I am waiting she prepares the liquid goo. She brought in with her a cup of goo, pours it into a little bucket and adds water while mixing. Its like a Japanese porno and I can't wait. She rubs about half of the concoction all over my back and onto her breasts and stomach and then starts slipping and sliding all over my back, that's when I really notice how hard her tits are.

This brings up something I wanted to ask the rest of the guys on this thread. I've only played with a few girls with enhanced tits but hers were really hard. The top first quarter was soft, but the last 3 quarters closer to her chest were like rocks. After firmly gripping and playing with them, it left me with the belief that somehow they were attached to her upper rib cage. Anyways that's the question I had, do all fake tits feel like that after time? I know they're supposed to get hard, but they felt like they were attached to her ribs, like they grew out of her rib cage and felt really weird (not sure if this is making sense to anyone). Anyways something to talk about before I finish the 2nd part of my review.

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Rob Hay
02-06-07, 09:03
AP- No these hotties your seeing heading into the building are definately going to the KTV. There are over 100 rooms in this huge 2 floor complex and a few hundred girls every night. I'm going to start phasing out the KTV thing as I start meeting more freebies but this KTV is a sure bet for high quality.

Not familiar with G-spot. That must be in the same area as the Armani club i keep hearing about.

Well this is the end of my 3 weeks in Shanghai and I'm off to the states until after the New Years break here.

LTC: I never tried this escort website thing but I think your wasting your time and money like everyone says. But hey try it yourself and learn through paying tuition.

Woxiangyao
02-06-07, 23:31
Several Reports in this one, been quite busy recently. Sauna freebies have left for home for CNY!

Starting from wuzhong 500, not the sauna but the KTV, sounded tempting, decided to try one bored day, reached at 7, they open at 3, but because of the ktv nature hardly any customers. The lineup comes to your room and introduces themselves. I'm pretty sure I saw all of them as there were 2 rows of them bowing and introducing. Maximum was a 6/7. 10s. Some old, some fat, only a few young ones. Picked the last girl who walked in the room from Nei Menggu. She seemed the sweetest. The mamasan asks you to go shower while she changes the outfit. I asked which was best and she said the stewardess. So off we went.

After the shower- chit chatted awhile, and she was really shy. I'm told she just started today and didn't expect to be picked. I started to get raunchy and the girl nearly had a minor heart attack! She was submissive, but damn if I stuck my tongue further into her ear I bet she'd faint! I had to rethink strategy talked to her more before I jumped her again. Kinda awkward, but she jumped me then, a bit too aggressive, which was weird from a saint to a tiger in about 10 minutes. I guess country girls aint used too used to foreplay. I decided to tease her again and she almost fainted with heavy, nervous breathing, then time was up. Oh yeah, din't bother to sing.

On to round two. Told here to leave the stewardess outfit on, just loosen the scarf, blouse and lift up the skirt, didn't feel like seeing armpit hair which she, being country, would definately have and told her to skip the red rope thing (which the only learned today) continued with my foreplay biting and licking, with her panting, and nervous breathing. And the stewardess outfit. Felt kinda kinky. I just gave it to her and didn't bother anymore. She obviously wasn't uncomfortable with me giving it to her, just the fact that she'd never been teased like that before. Felt like a jap porn movie.

Would I do it again? Probably not but it was a fun experience.

-2nd report

Village, went with a friend to scope out the scene. First time. Wandered in and out but found a NIIIICE shop. If you go past the gates and go a block down and hang a right, on the right hand side of the road / can't remember the road name. It's the 3rd or 4th shop, with a blue light coming from the floor. Kinda hard to imagine but it's there, imagine a blue / pink light salon. There was some chick dancing in the window and we decided to check it out. I spoke using my best 'local' accent, and passed off as a local, 150 rmb for 35 mins of dingy skanky love. They had some nice honeys. I mean nice, 1 was about 9/10 (obvious fake boobs) no kidding, which promtply got taken by my friend who had a skanky time of his own. I took dancing girl who seemed barely legal. No need to elaborate, in, pump, out. That was it, although my friend was smelling his fingers during the cab ride home.

Been at waves, yuping and one more on Yanan, can't remember the name Shu Yi Yuan? Somthing like that. All not that noteworthy. Though waves seems to have a more exotic lineup with ethnic koreans/xinjiang (ugly in my book) and mongolians. Oh yeah, the 1st girl from wuzhong 500 was Manzhu, not Han. Taught me some kinky ass mongolian bedcalls which I can't remember now. Ehehe

BTW, GSPOT has closed down.

If you want freebie action, head for Guandii- If your hunting instincts are on the ball, you'll leave with some. Worked a japanese tourist for 2 hours at guandii who was hotter than hell, BUT she had to leave back to japan on a 6am flight the next day! I was like " WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME 2 HOURS AGO! ". Exchanged msns, emails, but won't bother following up, Japan is too far away. This was Friday night, 3 am. I promptly went back in and worked another Shanghai hottie within 20 minutes, we were off to babyface for some more, and then to my place after that.

Suggestion, don't bother with the girls at the tables, too expensive. Look for groups of 1/2 sitting at the bar, checking their mobiles, those who've been stood up. Guandii is a hip hop crowd with Uni students dying to practice english. Another Killer- buy them tequila. :)

That's all- Out. Thats all for now.

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Aisin Gioro
02-07-07, 02:13
I know that feeling, Jon246.

For me, fake tits is one of the ultimate turn offs, similar to bad extra-uterine birth scars, blackish teeth and penis-like giant clits.

The type of boob job you described probably is associated with the awful "double tit effect": when she is on her knees and, say, elbows or hands, doggy style, if you watch laterally you can actually see the real tit hanging from the bottom of the plastic one. Like two scoops of icecream, one on the top of the other. Usually it gets even worse when the skin and flesh covering the plastic tit actually adapt to the bag's shape and allow you to see "the plastic bag and water" effect. Just grab a plastic bag, pour some water inside and watch the shape it takes when you hang it. Same physics, same effect.

To my taste, disgusting.

I must say though that recently more and more women (and men) are aware of these two problems (weird feeling + weird looks) and that's why they invented new things like the saline water bags and new techniques like sub-muscular implants.

If you know Japan, that's what most likely you will get nowadays, and the results are very, very natural. Saline water doesn't "get hard" as silicon, its density is closer to the real one and it has less health risks than the old ones.

Implanting then under the muscule layer avoids the awful double-tit and plastic-bag effects. Submuscular implants also don't produce any visible/obvious scars, since the implant is introduced through the axillar area. The bad side is that the surgery and recovery process are more painful and take more time. But hey, what you won't do to please your man.

I had a couple of freebies in Tokyo that had done this and I didn't even noticed until they told me.

As far as I have experienced, though, old style implants and surgery are the rule in South East Asia, China and other not yet so developed places (Venezuela out of this list, since they are professionals of naturality...)

Member #3434
02-07-07, 10:46
aisin,

thanks for the info, you really know a lot about implants and really shed a lot of light. hopefully more of the newer type of technologies will be used in the future here in china. i was really concerned because my gf was also interested, i'll have to make sure they use the newer technology, maybe have her go to the us or japan to get them done. i guess a better doctor will also be able to control shape better so they are rounder and not so sharp.

on to the second part of my wuzhong lu experience.

another amusing thing i noticed is that when she was doing the slipping and sliding, she would squeez pockets of air between my body and the air mattress to bubble out causing queefing sounds (if you don't know what that means, who wants to explain? ). the goo's thickness and consistency really help to create a really bubbly queef, i couldn't help but laugh a bit. imagine, she starts near my legs, pushes off the wall to get moment and slides across past my ass, to my stomach and as she passes to get to the top of my back, bluuuurrrp, slides back down, and then back up, bluuuurrrp again. i'm curious to know if anyone else has had the same experience, come to think about it i never noticed the sounds on japanese bathhouse porn videos, i guess they might be edited out. maybe my body's mass is just right to trap pockets of air between myself and the air mattress and the combination of the girls little body and 2 hard enhancements adds just enough pressure to create the really bubbly and long bluuuurrrp sound. now you have to admit that the potential to make your own bluuuurrrrp sounds is all you need to want to go and try out this amazing bathhouse. maybe we can have a bluuurrrping competition, whoever can record the loudest, most bubbly and longest bllluuurrrp can become the champion male queefer. remeber though this is not as easy as i make it sound, a lot of precision and practice will be needed, not to mention just the right amount of air in the cushion, the perfect combination of girl and fake boob enhancements and your ability to recognize potential air traps and take advantage of them. i'm sure with practice and. wo wo, i'm getting totaly off subject.

ok, after the slip and slide all over my back, she starts liking all over. this time i'm wondering what the goo tastes like, can't be too tasty, but whose complaining. i really have to say this licking feels much better to me than the gurgling action you can get at 500 wuzhong lu, come to think of it, who the hell created the gurgling action massage. who ever wanted warm saliva mixed water running down your body and especially down your ass crack and on either side of your n. sacks? anyways she also gets into ar where she kinda flutters her tongue all over. i have to admit that i'm also not that into the ar thing, but the fluttering thing and light licking was not all that bad, well hell, it felt really good. it just bugs me to think that a really hot girl's tongue is all up in my ass, especially knowing the sh%t (literaly) that comes out. luckily i've been washed 4-5 times before i got to this stage so it should be cleaner than it's ever been.

now to the front, which is also tricky as i almost slipped off trying to flip over on the air matt. that goo's really gooey. front is similar to the back action, only now i can watch without straining my neck looking through the mirror (forgot to mention that the wall in the bathroom is a mirror, someone really thought about this when they built the bathrooms), and can obviously have a better chance connecting the hands to the boobs as they pass by (i didn't have as much luck on my back, looking through the mirror and trying to lift my hands up while lying face first on an air matt really affected my ability to time my grabs). she starts a little below my knees, then pushes off (similar to swimmers when they push off the wall in the pool), and slides up to my chest. still had some bluuuurrrps, but not as loud or long as when i was face first. i was really having a hard time concentrating on both trying to refill the pockets with air and grabbing the boobs when they came close enough, next time i'll have to try and focus more. next she kind of lays on her side and so basically straddles my legs between her boobs and starts gliding up and down. mental note, if the girl's enhancements are 100% hard, skip this part because even with the top 25% still being soft, the pressure on my little n. sacks when she passed them full speed hurt a bit. at this point i think she also had my little bro in her mouth and kind of went up and down as she slid, i can't be 100% sure though cause i almost passed out from the constant ball busting action of her enhanced boobs. when she was finally finished and i had gained most of my concienceness, she moved over to my right side and i thought to myself, here we go again. ok, ok, it wasn't that bad, i didn't really blank out and if i did it was only because she was moving so fast and was making me dizzy trying to catch her tits.

i'll have to finish pt. 3 tomorrow or friday cause it's getting late and i hear more of that bluuurrrping sound but it aint coming from the air mattress (you know what i mean? ). i know tmi, sorry about that.

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Member #3434
02-07-07, 10:58
Woxiangyao,

I feel the same about the red rope. Its really not that good, especially with the girl flipped over straining to suck while her bush (which usually tends to be on the bushy side in China) points to the sky. On the other hand I once had a girl who just used the ropes to hold her just above me, she was hanging on her stomach and kind of swung herself forward and backward so that her nipples would glide across my body. That felt ok for just an erotic massage.

Also, tell your friend not to put his fingers near his nose or upper lip after they've been in little sister. You know what a dirty sanchez is, some girls in China smell so bad down there that you could accidentally give your self one without even knowing.

Jon

UnderPSI
02-08-07, 19:36
Guys,

I will be going to Shanghai. Any action at Ramada Plaza Pudong?

Thanks

OldAsiaHand
02-09-07, 07:27
UnderPSI,

A simple thread search for "Ramada" turned up 15 posts with a wealth of information on the area around the hotel and other options in Pudong. And, I cannot count how many posts there are about the Pudong area in general.

I stayed in Pudong last fall and managed to get laid very easily on numerous occasions from the information posted on this thread.

Just another lazy newbie.

OAH


Guys,

I will be going to Shanghai. Any action at Ramada Plaza Pudong?

Thanks

Bonzo1
02-09-07, 10:30
Does anyone know of a great proxy server (web-based preferably, or otherwise)?

I have been using http://www.dejacey.com/ which is ok, but has problems with forms, etc.

Laowai123
02-09-07, 10:54
Does anyone know of a great proxy server (web-based preferably, or otherwise)?

I have been using http://www.dejacey.com/ which is ok, but has problems with forms, etc.http://www.publicproxyservers.com/index.html

Find one which works for you. I have good experiences with servers in Australia. Try to use a transparent server, anonymous does not work, at least for me. As I am using a proxy server only to access sites like BBC and so on - no XXX related sites - I dont have a problem using a transparent server.

hth

LW

Member #3434
02-09-07, 10:56
Pt. 3 Last part, I promise.

After a little more of the bbbj I let out a slight moan, and she quickly pulled away. I've seen this face before, basically letting me know that she's not too interested in a CIM finish. She pulled away so quickly, I think she even suprised herself and took a second to collect herself and asked if I wanted to finish on the tatami. I didn't so asked her to finish me off in the shower room, and with a smile she happily obliged. Unfortunately only a little more bbbj before she finished me off with her hands, not complaining too much though cause the slippery goo was still, well slippery and so made it feel quite nice (unlike the feeling from the normal rub and tug oily lotions). She then hosed me and my troopers off and then we stepped into the tub to finish showering up.

On the tatami, we lay down together and chat a bit before she started to make her way down kissing until she reached my xiao didi. After playing with it for a while to get it back up again, she starts with a bbbj and then picks up a jimi hat. At this point, as I usually end up telling my girls, I am not interested in zuo ai. I know most of you are going to think I'm crazy, but I'm really more of a bbbj fenatic, and occasionally enjoy sticking it between 2 round, soft beautiful breasts. I am usually able to get away with this by telling the girl that I have a girl friend and therefor have given my oath not to zuo ai, or really an oath not to stick xiao didi into other girl's xiao meimeis. I have had times where this only made the girl want to do it more, and I find that most cases the girls feel that doing the deed is much easier than anything else. She was ok with it and even complemented me for my faithfulness (which I admit i had to wonder about, shit I still had it in another girl's mouth which I'm 100% sure my gf would not be crazy about), and proceeded to finish me off with a bbbj. Unfortunately my xiao didi is fairly lazy, and after assessing the situation, and really my potential to come a second time, I told her that he was too tired and would need at least a few hours of rest before he could spit again. We laid and chatted some more, I'm guessing that she could finish with a massage if I asked but I usually find the girls at these kind of places aren't really that good at massage so was content with just hanging out. At least I knew that second pop was available with at least this girl. I don't know how many times in the past things went south as soon as i popped, usually to some thing of I'll go clean up for a bit (more like 20 bits), or times's up...... After a bit more conversation, our time really was up so we went back to the shower where she cleaned me for what must have been the 5th time in a day and then we dressed and she led me to the individual waiting rooms again. I declined another sit and went straight to the main shower area where i showered again.

And finally the scores:

Location: 638 Wuzhong lu, 2nd floor
Shower/bath facility: 5
Service: 8
Room: 9 (Great individual waiting rooms and great hotel like fully equiped tatami rooms)

Girl: She went by Coco, forgot her number (be nice please)
Body: 9
Face: 8
Tits: 6 (Fake and too hard)
Service: 8 (no CIM but great attitude and enthusiasm and willing to go for 2nd pop)

Price: 800 RMB

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Big Dude
02-09-07, 12:11
Does anyone know the address of DA TANG YU JI and whats the price like?

Thanks

Bonzo1
02-09-07, 12:41
Just came across this site, which I haven't seen mentioned in this forum before - http://king69.com/escorts.html

Anyone have any experience with this? Some good looking gals here, but no idea whether they are real or about the quality of the service.

LoveAsianWhores
02-09-07, 15:57
I live out in Manilla. I consider it paradise on earth, but I need to come to Shanghai on business in about a week. I've turned a two day business trip into 10 days, as I have never been to China and I think it might be nice to try something new (like my dick in a tight china doll).

My budget for the hotel, food and girls is about $200 a day. I figure about $80 a night for a hotel, $20 for food, and $100 for girls. Reasonable?

So, what would be the best hotel to stay in. Ideally, I want something with the maximum number of available girls within walking distance. My perference is take out, but I certainly want to try some of the health clubs I've read so much about.

In Manila, the answer would be easy. The Heritage for the Passay area, City Garden for Makati, and the Hyatt for Ermita/Malate. For those familier with Manila, a recommendation for equivelent hotels would be great. My only requirement is in room internet access, which I need for business.

I will repay the board with a very detailed trip report when I return.

Bonzo1
02-09-07, 17:28
Try the Hilton downtown. Price might be higher than your budget, but sometimes they have specials, location is ideal, and also girls could be less (especially later at night and in that area, particularly Julu lu where they can be had for as low as $30 (average $50 to $75). Again, later night, less cost. BBS's are super cheap and you can find some close. RTFF for much info on this subject (just search for "Hilton")

-B-



I live out in Manilla. I consider it paradise on earth, but I need to come to Shanghai on business in about a week. I've turned a two day business trip into 10 days, as I have never been to China and I think it might be nice to try something new (like my dick in a tight china doll).

My budget for the hotel, food and girls is about $200 a day. I figure about $80 a night for a hotel, $20 for food, and $100 for girls. Reasonable?

So, what would be the best hotel to stay in. Ideally, I want something with the maximum number of available girls within walking distance. My perference is take out, but I certainly want to try some of the health clubs I've read so much about.

In Manila, the answer would be easy. The Heritage for the Passay area, City Garden for Makati, and the Hyatt for Ermita/Malate. For those familier with Manila, a recommendation for equivelent hotels would be great. My only requirement is in room internet access, which I need for business.

I will repay the board with a very detailed trip report when I return.

Albert Punter
02-09-07, 17:35
Yes, Hilton is centrally located for many mongering spots.
However, by some members it was reported not to be girl-friendly, and take-out could be a problem.

Otherwise, you may chose Equatorial Hotel, which is just around the corner and it should be girl-friendly (Gualtier can you confirm that ?), other than cheaper than Hilton.


Try the Hilton downtown. Price might be higher than your budget, but sometimes they have specials, location is ideal, and also girls could be less (especially later at night and in that area, particularly Julu lu where they can be had for as low as $30 (average $50 to $75). Again, later night, less cost. BBS's are super cheap and you can find some close. RTFF for much info on this subject (just search for "Hilton")

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Dragon D
02-09-07, 17:54
The Hilton I have never had a problem with delivering girls into clients rooms. Have walked into the lobby with three hookers and gone right to the lift with no problems. The Regent hotel though had a problem for peoples info. This is the hotel on yan an west road across from the Howard Johnson. They requested after 11 that the girl have ID on her and that the guest come down personally to pick her up.

The Hilton is also close to Tong Ren Road bar strip and within 30RMB of Wuzhong Road Red rope and slip and slide massage as reported earlier. Not to mention within walking distance of the Shanghai hotel.

By the way thought I would mention that 500 Wuzhong road has another location. It is on the corner of Fan Yu Road and Fa Huan Zhen Road across the street from the Holiday Inn Crowne plazza. It is on Fa Hua Zhen Road. Little more pricy think it was 600 something.

Cap Iota
02-09-07, 19:33
ok, which one of you was in the BBS on kangding lu around 9:30pm tonight? the second one on the left hand side if ur walking east past xikang lu? I was in the next room and I did a <cough> <cough> "ISG"...but no response. I tried to do it again but my girl's tongue down my throat kept me from saying another word.

da tang yu jing: its right across da street from the hongqiao golf course (3000 hongmei lu, close to yan an lu).

cap iota

LoveAsianWhores
02-09-07, 21:51
So I narrowed it down to the Hilton, Equatorial, and Shanghai hotel, as they all appear to be in "pussy central", which is generally my favorite part of whatever town I am in. The hilton was to expensive, and between the other two, the Shanghai was was cheaper, seems nice enough, and from reading some other posts, it has a FS massage place. Unless there is something bad about the Shanghai that I should know about, that will be my home for my 7 day adventure.

Blackmore
02-10-07, 00:34
Does anyone know the address of DA TANG YU JI and whats the price like?

ThanksIts at 498 Kang Ding Lu and it has increase its price to RMB 338 ;been there last week.

Ace Gallant
02-10-07, 10:17
The Hilton I have never had a problem with delivering girls into clients rooms. Have walked into the lobby with three hookers and gone right to the lift with no problems. The Regent hotel though had a problem for peoples info. This is the hotel on yan an west road across from the Howard Johnson. They requested after 11 that the girl have ID on her and that the guest come down personally to pick her up.



As far as the hotel is concern; the curfew of “No guest after 11pm” implemented September last year was unofficially lifted. Gualtier Malde had verified that for the Equatorial they no longer stop you at the lobby if you bring a girl in after 11pm.

AG

Jetlagged
02-10-07, 22:24
Going to Shanghai for first time in 2 weeks. I prefer a few drinks and some banter then back to hotel. What places are suitable and equivalent to Maggies or Hollywood in Beijing. If will RTFF if you would please just list some place names then I will search on them. Thanks

Smorb 27
02-11-07, 02:26
What places are suitable and equivalent to Maggies or Hollywood in Beijing.No Mongolian and Russian bars in Shanghai, but Manhatten and Judy's on Tongren Road have something in common with Maggies: You have a 90% chance that a female person in there is a working girl.

Manhatten: 请带我去铜仁路70号,近南京西路

Judy's ist just next door.

Eazy Guy
02-11-07, 02:39
dear fellows members,

I just got back from HK and Macau, will post a report about the trip later.

AG,

Just got your mail, will reply to you in a proper way.

Cheers,
eg

Blackmore
02-11-07, 04:36
Its at 498 Kang Ding Lu and it has increase its price to RMB 338 ;been there last week.Gentlemen,

Big booboo on my end due my poor Chinese. The one I visited is Jin Lin Yang Sheng Tang (484 Xi Kang Lu ( just dig out the card after finding out my error, very near to Kang Ding; it sounds similar somewhat) which gives the best professional manhood massage therapy.

Clients are usually more foreigners than local, and many goes there by recommendations/ word of mouth.

Best place for maintenance reason.

King Jack
02-11-07, 05:16
By the way thought I would mention that 500 Wuzhong road has another location. It is on the corner of Fan Yu Road and Fa Huan Zhen Road across the street from the Holiday Inn Crowne plazza. It is on Fa Hua Zhen Road. Little more pricy think it was 600 something.Dragon,

How about proving some more details regarding this another location of 500Wuzhong Lu?

Aisin Gioro
02-11-07, 12:27
Just a short briefing about Hang Hua (yes, I went again):

If you plan to go there these days, be ready to suffer a strict application of the offer vs. demmand law: due to the New Year massive migration, the amount of tail available has decreased, thus boosting prices up and service quality down.

Basically, they were asking for 800 to 1000 RMB for take out service, where available (most of the shops refused to let them out).

Luckily, though, I had decided to go early (7.30 pm) in order to enjoy fresher pussy and avoid the usual "oh, I'm so tired" vs "right, but I paid a lot of money, so do your job" discussions. That, plus the fact that I'm becoming a regular and most papa/mamasans already know me, allowed me to make a decent deal at my favourite shop: I could take my girl out for 500 RMB as long as I sent her back at midnight. Discounting the time to travel back to my place, that gave me about four hours of fun, which I considered to be fair enough.

I picked the same Sichuan girl I had the first time I went. Still hasn't bought a cell phone, but we exchanged QQ numbers (danger! danger! danger!). She also gave me another interesting inside information bit: around the end of March a few of the Sichuan girls there (including this one) will leave, which will surely bring some new girls to town.

Tango Foxtwo
02-11-07, 15:10
You got to be kidding or you are just plainly insulting all the members who had posted so much information on the Shanghai board!

Based on your previous posts I don't think you want to belong to those category. So continue posting good information and stop bragging!

Hey AG,

Like I said - I've been reading. Only recently being active. ME BEING ACTIVE posting and PM.

Shanghai forum is like home to me. I dont crap where I sleep. As for bragging, I think we all do it in some way. If I step out of line, thanks for the course correction in advance.

Your posts have help'd me a lot from being a tourist to being a full blown player in Shanghai.

Playing in Korea now till the holiday is over in Shanghai.

PS: Play in Shanghai is 4x cheaper and 8x better then Korea. The Korean girls are hot, but just dont have the GFE service.

Thanks brother.

Tango Foxtwo
02-11-07, 15:16
Are you disabled?

1800 RMB? The girl must be laughing her ass to rags!

LT is normally 300 - 400 RMB + taxi with Funny GF like girlYou're an idiot or just hopped out of the potato cart from Tibet.

Get real and stop playing with 60year old hags. This is Shanghai man.

The cheapest I've spent was 300 ST but that was in Chengdu.

Tango Foxtwo
02-11-07, 15:30
6' model from Harbin who is my current freebie. There are some runway shows the 1st week of Feb which shes taking me to....

Looking to hook up with DD sometime to show me around the bath houses but just been a bit busy with my Harbin girl.I met Rob the night before I left Shanghai. The 6 footer from Harbin is a looker and I say she's a keeper. He sounds like a bragger, but he's an A+ class player. My girl immediately classified him as a PLAYBOY of the highest class.

By the way Rob, If I was your age and had your height - AND spoke the language like you, I would not have to pay 2K. AHHHH wish I could turn back clock.

Hey thanks for the drinks. Say high to your girl for me.

Tango Foxtwo
02-11-07, 15:39
I'm off to Aus for business until Sunday......but Monday and Tuesday have been memorable and I will report upon my returnOther members on the board is right. Why pay? With your looks and language, you can play and re-play for a long while.

Lot of the KTV girls go to ARMANI to play. These KTV girls pay 2x the guy rate to play. You can be one of the their play thing (no insult intended).

Rob, I'm in Taipei now. Will return to Shanghai 5th March. Lets get together then

Tango Foxtwo
02-11-07, 15:52
Wouldn't it be better to be that guy instead of the sugar-daddy?
Good luck!Thanks - I've thought about and considered what you suggest. In fact, she now pays for dinner and other stuff. She now refuse my $$$, but only accept it when I say its to buy her mother some things or that its for new year shopping.

However, I have a personal rule that I go by. ALWAYS pay. This way I can leave anytime with remorse. This way, I know I can return home to the US. In a way - this prevents my relationship from going any further.

Bottom line - the girl is a person. She fell in love with me. If she's acting, then she should win an oscar. I must not fall in love with her! Paying her till it hurts always remind me who she is.

She's not worth a divorce costing me millions of dollars.

Tango Foxtwo
02-11-07, 16:00
Can a second wife (ernai) refuse her man's sexual request? George,

If a second wife refuse a man's sexual request - she no longer fits the role.

In the old days, rich men use to have multiple wives. Some because the first wife could not give him a son or some other reason. These second wives were legit and shared all benefits from the society.

Now days, second wives are more like LOVERs. However, I have heard that a Bejing court sided with the LOVER after she filed papers for support when she got pregnent.

Bottom line is that second wife is a LOVER and should NEVER refuse IMO.

Shanghai Jack
02-11-07, 16:58
Decided to have a relaxing Sunday afternoon at the Ji Yuan Salon.

I went there at 5 pm and it was more crowded than I expected. It seems the days where you can just walk through on a Sunday afternoon are over. Anyway, I had to wait for around 30 minutes and while I was waiting the staff offered some free beef noodle soup.

When it was my turn to choose a girl, I was happy to see that the selection is still good. I thought with Chinese New Year approaching the girls are already on their way home. I picked No. 72, 24 years from Shen Yang.

She was a bit skinny but when I looked at her she was smiling back at me and this is usually a good sign. She was very passionate, but no french kissing. After 45 minutes of quite wild action, she came / pretended to come and afterwards she was a bit tired. So I asked to finish with BBBJ / CIM, no problem. All in all quite uncomplicated and nice, but also not very special. After the great experiences of the last couple of weeks - especially with the cutie from Whuzhong Lu 500 - my standards have gone up some how.

I guess I will try some freebie hunting for a change. Guandii was mentioned here a few times, let's see.

Have fun, SJ

Bad Boy Billy
02-12-07, 08:05
Billy will be in Shanghai Wed night - Valentines Day.

Anybody wanting to hook up and down a few quiet ales at Zapatas 'ladies night' just drop me a line.

If there was ever a recipie for a 'freebie' - then Wed night will be it.

Nightwing88
02-12-07, 10:08
Had the most unusual experience today at what I thought was a normal massage place. Went to one of the many massage parlours on Laoshan Road (between Weifang Road and Pudian Road in Pudong). Asked for a normal oil massage from one of the girls. My girl, a 23 year old from Anhui, proceeded to take me upstairs to a private room complete with a personal bathroom, shower and massage table. After I showered and changed into a pair of shorts, she returned and started a most excellent back and leg oil rubdown. When she flipped me over and continued, her constant touches on my little brother indicated that it was indeed a typical massage with happy ending. However, this time, she offerred to "da fei ji", either with her hands, her breasts, or her legs. I've ejaculated both on a girl's hands and boobs before, but never on the legs. So, I opted for her legs.

What happened next was very interesting. She poured more oil on my little brother, then on her leg. She next hugged me and then, while kissing my neck and chest, wrapped her knee around my penis. She then began moving her knee up and down on the penis! Let me tell you, it felt just like the real thing and I was able to touch all over her body. After about 5 minutes, I came all over her legs! Both of us were exhausted from the experience.

She told me afterwards that not everyone does this type of a service, and they had to practice quite a bit before offering it to their customers. Have any of you ever had this kind of experience before?

Nightwing

GlenEagle
02-12-07, 18:11
Had the most unusual experience today at what I thought was a normal massage place. Went to one of the many massage parlours on Laoshan Road (between Weifang Road and Pudian Road in Pudong).

Can you share with us the name of the place, cost involved and also service provider's number.

Thanks.

GlenEagle

Dragon D
02-12-07, 18:21
Heya King Jack,

Sorry about lack of details. So here we go. This other location is pretty much the same set up as 500 Wuzhong road but on a smaller scale. The same sauna, soak tub, exfoiliating scrub is available and the rooms are quite similar too. The girls are fewer in number than wuzhong road but it is less busy and the girl I had was willing to go 80 min with no complaints but just begging for more. Sorry I can't remember her number but she is a total GFE. Cost was higher than the other location though I think it was 650. Found it because a friend was staying in town at the Holiday inn there. Just another option to cut down cab costs if you like downtown.

Tango Foxtwo
Not sure if your post about bath houses with DD meant me. If so I am back from my Canada monger trip on the 18th then head out on my China mongering trip and will be back on the 27th. PM me and we can work something out.

Cheers all and get ready to send those prize beaver trophies to the taxidermist to get them stuffed for the memories. Heard that after new years we will have a all new wave of chicks coming into town. Let the hunting commence.

Neuromancer
02-12-07, 18:56
Other members on the board is right. Why pay? With your looks and language, you can play and re-play for a long while.

Lot of the KTV girls go to ARMANI to play. These KTV girls pay 2x the guy rate to play. You can be one of the their play thing (no insult intended).

Rob, I'm in Taipei now. Will return to Shanghai 5th March. Lets get together thenBeen to Armani before with a civilian (female) friend - found the whole experience sort of interesting. The price was 300RMB for the sitting fee and 400RMB (I think) for take home. No idea what the min charge was. For the most part, the clientele seemed to be primarily bored housewives. There was even a laowai "xiao ya", but I guess that he was doing it for kicks.

I have also had a 141 girl tell me about going to a reverse-KTV in Shenzen. She mentioned tipping the guy of 1000RMB (which really surprised me)... with the total cost running much higher (though it was driven up primarily by certain mind enhancing substances).

Albert Punter
02-13-07, 14:56
Interesting article.
It appears we have to work overtime.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007-02/13/content_5733548.htm

Nightwing88
02-14-07, 03:55
Can you share with us the name of the place, cost involved and also service provider's number.

Thanks.

GlenEagle

Sadly, I OVERPAID for the service! It was a classic example of the little head doing the thinking for the big head, and I am normally more disciplined at this! 180RMB for the massage, plus 500 for the "kneejob". As I was walking out the door, I realized that I should have negotiated both to a much lower price. If I go back next time, I promise I will!

Forgot the name of the place, but the location is on the western side of Laoshan Road, close to Weifang Road. Starting from the KFC on the northwest corner of Laoshan Road and Weifang Road, walk south on Laoshan Road. It was the second massage parlour on the right. At the front desk, you ask for a massage, and they take you up a flight of stairs to the private rooms.

I asked the girl, and it seems the massage parlour next door also offers happy ending service. My girl was number 29.

Nightwing

Gualtier Malde
02-14-07, 08:48
So I narrowed it down to the Hilton, Equatorial, and Shanghai hotel, as they all appear to be in "pussy central", which is generally my favorite part of whatever town I am in. The hilton was to expensive, and between the other two, the Shanghai was was cheaper, seems nice enough, and from reading some other posts, it has a FS massage place. Unless there is something bad about the Shanghai that I should know about, that will be my home for my 7 day adventure.

Sorry I'm so late to respond. AG is right, the curfew is gone at least at the Equatorial - I was able to bring in a sweet young thing at about 1am, no problem.

Equatorial is a better deal all around than the Hilton. Shanghai Hotel is cheaper, can't vouch for the quality versus the Equatorial. But the Shanghai Hotel comes with one of the best Saunas in town on the second floor. Can't get more convenient than that.

If you really want to save money, you might try the Chinese oriented Jing An Hotel down the street. If you really REALLY want to save money, there is a Hotel 168 within a (several block) walk.

GM

Gualtier Malde
02-14-07, 09:13
went with a great subset of the gang to the pub which is rarely mentioned by name, late one evening. the plan? take out the cutest ones of the bunch for an impromptu orgy at a separate location.

as our cab stopped, we saw that we were just a tad too late: another cab had just unloaded a group of four guys, who hustled in the door. the proprietor promptly locked the door behind them. bad news - must mean they were fully booked, no room for more.

ah, but that doesn't stop the gang! two members, who by the way could be mistaken for the local men in blue through a peephole, banged on the locked door and loudly said "open up!" in very official chinese.

the proprietor knows these guys, but the four poor guys who stopped at the bar apparently didn't... before we knew it, four very wide eyed guys quickly departed, probably certain they just escaped a bust.

we entered, proprietor was happy to see us. we settled in the back.

unfortunately, one more guy was apparently in, shall we say, mid-stride in the back room. he quickly exited as we were settling in. sorry dude! no offense intended!

as much as i hate to disrupt someone else's party, it was a truly funny scene to see these guys rep001ter! maybe next time we'll make it up to them and buy them a round of beers...

story two... while sitting and contemplating the staff (we quickly concluded that the pub would not be our source of ladies for this night), a couple of guys wandered in.

a couple of us consulted quietly, "you think they are isg?" we decided not to pry. but lo and behold, not 10 seconds later one of the dudes said "hey, are you guys isg?" (talk about discreet!)

we admitted to membership, and asked them their handles. they said they didn't have handles, but merely lurked. however, they seemed very knowledgeable, and began asking very prying questions about our handles.

since they didn't offer handles, neither did we, and rebuffed their more direct questions.

bottom line for lurkers is this: if you want to hook up with isg members, get a handle and post, so we have a clue who you are. maybe, just maybe we'll admit our own handles, if we feel we can trust you. but there has been too much said to risk in-person revelations to totally unknown folks.

to these particular lurkers (you know who you are): your query about our identities was wrong. the member to which you refered was not among our gang. but gang members we were.

see you on the streets!

gm

Tango Foxtwo
02-14-07, 14:38
Heard that after new years we will have a all new wave of chicks coming into town. Let the hunting commence.Hey DD,

I heard the same from my girl who's in Dalian now. Looks like a lot of new girls will be invading from up north. But then again, a lot of girls left starting in Nov last year.

I guest the returning veterans convinced the locals up north that its a target rich environment in Shanghai.

Be prepared sometimes around 9th March - at least for the KTV crowd

I do love those northen-girls