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Lex Moon
11-16-07, 07:07
Dan:
You can take the airport express but get off at Kowloon station and take a taxi (HK$20) to the Hunghom station. There you take the KCRC to CP (HK$145 - 11 departures/day). At present, there is really no direct link between between the airport and the KCRC hunghom station.
SE Asia Joe

One more alternative if you don't have much luggage.
Take airport express to Kowloon Station, then
take taxi to East Tsim Sha Tsui KCRC station, then
take KCRC to Lowu, and finally
take CRH (fast train) to DG.
This will be the cheapest way for people on budget.

http://www.johomaps.com/as/hongkong/hkmetro_ch.html

SE Asia Joe
11-16-07, 08:09
One more alternative if you don't have much luggage.
Take airport express to Kowloon Station, then
take taxi to East Tsim Sha Tsui KCRC station, then
take KCRC to Lowu, and finally
take CRH (fast train) to DG.
This will be the cheapest way for people on budget.

http://www.johomaps.com/as/hongkong/hkmetro_ch.html
sorry to disagree - but this is NOT the cheapest/most convenient from the airport.... . The airport express is HK$120, the Taxi is HK$20, the KCRC ride from Hunghom (not Tsim sha Tsui) is HK$38 or $72 first class, the CRH is I think rmb 50, CRH to hotel RMB20. Total approx HK$248 - compared with the direct bus from the airport to Dongguang which should not cost over HK$200 and depending on which hotel, these buses go directly to the hotel. PLus the direct bus is going to take a lot shorter period of time.
SE Asia Joe

Arctic1
11-16-07, 10:27
(snip)

Miraton seems to be the favorite amongst ISG dongguan mongers, but the shower floods and that sucks, when you need to use the bathroom another time.

(snip)

Yes, had I the opportunity, I would cheerfully throttle the designer of Miraton's bathrooms. In the normal setup, the bathroom contains a standalone shower with opaque glass window opening to the bedroom (which I like), plus the bathtub/shower combo with detachable shower head. Around the bathtub's top is a raised ridge, not flush with the wall, that results in a channel for water from the shower. That water has nowhere to go but the floor.

To make matters worse, the bottom of the standalone shower's glass door sits flush with the floor, so it is extremely difficult to prevent water there from escaping the shower. Sometimes when I am using that shower in the company of another, water on the bathroom floor is not my major concern. Only later do I curse it.

It's not that most girls have trouble trashing a bathroom. Seven out of ten seem to have taken an academic course on the subject. The Miraton just makes it easy for them.

Bill Lee
11-16-07, 11:15
The best part of it all is telling the girl to stop using the f*cking hair dryer while standing on the flooded floor.

Bill

AsnDragon
11-16-07, 11:18
Arctic,

I completely agree with you, you hit it right on the nail. I stayed at Miraton for 3 days straight and i couldn't stand the shower situation. I mean the only erotic cool part about it is that there is a glass portion of the shower that you can see from the bed, so i find it kinda cool how you can see your girl wash up and stuff from the other side.

But it's so damn annoying when the water floods all over and it takes half a day for the water to dry up and when you go to the bathroom your feet is soaked with cold water. I feel like I'm in some water prison torture experiment or something. I'm literally brushing my teeth faster because the cold water soaking my feet down there is not helping me out at all.

But i really do prefer Walter hotel, it's cheaper and it's only across the street from Miraton. Their bathrooms don't flood like Miraton, and their safe is actually bolted down unlike Hui Mei and Hui Hwa, which i think the owner just needs to invest in some bolts and screws for the safe, it's so damn dangerous for your belongings.

But Hui Mei, actually has this really cute girl at the front reception. I've been trying to pick her up for quite some time, her name i believe is Xia Rong. She's a cutie. Really shy, petite with big eyes and smiles a lot. Ok...that's the description of 100 other girls in CP, but it's the best i can come up with.

Oh word of advice, I've heard from many sources that the Owner of New Century is CP big triad boss. He basically runs all the underground activities in CP. So, try not to make a fuss or trouble in the hotel, or hotel facilities, including the KTV. Even trouble-makers steer clear of his territory. He's also the owner of that huge apartment complex being built, that has 4 huge tall towers as well. So just be a bit careful and respectful in his facilities, that's what my contacts that live in CP for a few years have told me.


Yes, had I the opportunity, I would cheerfully throttle the designer of Miraton's bathrooms. In the normal setup, the bathroom contains a standalone shower with opaque glass window opening to the bedroom (which I like), plus the bathtub/shower combo with detachable shower head. Around the bathtub's top is a raised ridge, not flush with the wall, that results in a channel for water from the shower. That water has nowhere to go but the floor.

To make matters worse, the bottom of the standalone shower's glass door sits flush with the floor, so it is extremely difficult to prevent water there from escaping the shower. Sometimes when I am using that shower in the company of another, water on the bathroom floor is not my major concern. Only later do I curse it.

It's not that most girls have trouble trashing a bathroom. Seven out of ten seem to have taken an academic course on the subject. The Miraton just makes it easy for them.

Scorpio33
11-16-07, 11:47
sorry to disagree - but this is NOT the cheapest/most convenient from the airport.... . The airport express is HK$120, the Taxi is HK$20, the KCRC ride from Hunghom (not Tsim sha Tsui) is HK$38 or $72 first class, the CRH is I think rmb 50, CRH to hotel RMB20. Total approx HK$248 - compared with the direct bus from the airport to Dongguang which should not cost over HK$200 and depending on which hotel, these buses go directly to the hotel. PLus the direct bus is going to take a lot shorter period of time.
SE Asia Joe

Another cheap and relatively fast option is to take bus A43 from airport to Sheung Shui KCR station. Takes about 35 to 40 minutes, only costs HK$28, and there are luggage areas on the bus as well. Sheung Shui is just one stop away from Lou Hu.

Old Mean Dog
11-16-07, 15:39
The best part of it all is telling the girl to stop using the f*cking hair dryer while standing on the flooded floor.

Bill

I think I would hold back that warning based on the service she provided me. A quick little jolt, might make her move her ass more.

-CPE

OldAsiaHand
11-18-07, 06:38
It's not that most girls have trouble trashing a bathroom. Seven out of ten seem to have taken an academic course on the subject. The Miraton just makes it easy for them.

There are two things that always [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off about the girls. Spitting on the floor and trashing the bathroom. It happens way too often for my liking if they are not forewarned.

Why do you think they do this? Do they do the same thing in their own homes? This habit has always been a mystery to me.

OAH

Transporter
11-18-07, 13:34
Oddly enough....yes
It's sort of like removing your shoes (for asians) when entering a home, or actually sitting on the seat of the toilet to use it for us.




There are two things that always [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off about the girls. Spitting on the floor and trashing the bathroom. It happens way too often for my liking if they are not forewarned.

Why do you think they do this? Do they do the same thing in their own homes? This habit has always been a mystery to me.

OAH

Jellybelly
11-18-07, 14:41
Finally, Its been one long year but my annual pilgrimage to DG will start as of Tuesday. Ive been keeping up with the forum and am glad to know that many ISGs members are currently in town. This will be my first trip after having discovered ISG earlier this year, so am looking forward to meeting a few of you to show me the ropes.

Please PM me your contact details, and we can hook up as soon as I get the phone operational upon arrival.

P.S. Im going to be giving Miraton a skip based on the recent reviews...can someone recommend the next best hotel with internet access in-room?

Thanks in advance.

Santa
11-18-07, 18:44
I kind of like to see a girl spit on the floor because then I know she's my kind of gal.

Bill Lee. Warning: Beastial sodomy is a mortal sin, so leave it alone!

AsnDragon
11-18-07, 21:40
Well, I have actually visited the houses or straw huts these girls live in back in the village/countryside. The floor sin their houses sometimes consists of only semi dirt floors. So I can sorta see the mentality of spiting on the floor, thinking that the ground will absorb it back up. But regardless, it's a nasty habit.

That's just as bad as going into a BBS and seeing girls chew up watermelon seeds and spit that all over the floor. I can't stand that either. Or when you go to a BBS line up and you see the girls stretched out on the couch and seeing them picking their feet in front of you. I dunno which is worse.


There are two things that always [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off about the girls. Spitting on the floor and trashing the bathroom. It happens way too often for my liking if they are not forewarned.

Why do you think they do this? Do they do the same thing in their own homes? This habit has always been a mystery to me.

OAH

Dan Hawaii
11-18-07, 22:08
There are two things that always [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off about the girls. Spitting on the floor and trashing the bathroom. It happens way too often for my liking if they are not forewarned.

Why do you think they do this? Do they do the same thing in their own homes? This habit has always been a mystery to me.

OAH
That's a form of marking their territory, that means they are in heat and horny as hell. They don't want to leave, but you seem to push them away and they go away sadly. Next time keep her for another run and she will be all smiles. :)

One Wing Low
11-19-07, 02:28
I've been to a few Chinese households in California. The houses are worth probably in the 1.5 million dollars range, and the people are fairly well off, pehaps worth a few mil.

Yet they all have the same habit of leaving things on the floor everywhere in every room, clothes, papers, cooking utensils, glasses...everything was spread ut equally on the floor to the point there is no room left to walk on without stepping on something.

Chinese women seem to dislike to clean up and organize their household, or to hire people to do it. I would never be able to live with anyone that messy. It would be very depressing for me, and I am not even a neatness freak.

Tell me if CHinese wives behave differently in China. I hope their sexual habits are not similarly messy...



There are two things that always [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off about the girls. Spitting on the floor and trashing the bathroom. It happens way too often for my liking if they are not forewarned.

Why do you think they do this? Do they do the same thing in their own homes? This habit has always been a mystery to me.

OAH

Old Mean Dog
11-19-07, 07:19
I kind of like to see a girl spit on the floor because then I know she's my kind of gal.

Bill Lee. Warning: Beastial sodomy is a mortal sin, so leave it alone!


My god man, the fecking sounds they make when they are trying to hack up a goober, makes me wanna puke. She don't mind blowing and banging 10 guys a day, but you would think she just swallowed battery acid in the bathroom.

I have noticed that when I have one over to my apartment, their attitude changes about trashing the place and they actually leave it very tidy when done. I assume it's their mentality that a hotel is a short term thing and someone will clean up after them compared to it being someones home.

-CPE

Santa: I got a good eye on that Bill Lee fella, he is staying in line thus far.

Moody
11-19-07, 07:54
ok ok i should first rtff - but i just got back from donguan - the second time this past week and i've pretty well decided that this is going to be next mongering hang out for me. (for the sake of convenience from hkg, price, selection and most important, a change of scene from my old usual haunts of shenzhen)
my friends took me on the bus from luohu (rmb 47 from bay 39) to donguan city, and went to the k-ok at the waterfall garden hotel. rates are 2-8-11 the place is quite nice and the gals are a lot of fun (at least mine was - all giggly and boisterous the whole night). 5 of us shared a bottle of black label (jeez - hope it wasn't fake!!) and a dozen beers/mixers with 5 gals and a dj. the total bill (large room) for the drinks, dj etc was rmb1,300 and of course we all took care of our own girls.
1. is this a good price for donguan? its quite a bit cheaper than shenzhen to me

sounds about right. black usually goes for about 800 or so and a dozen beers probably run you somewhere around 400-500. small bill for 5 people. my friends and i usually hit around 2500-3000 or so if there's 5 of us. 2-8-11 seems a bit on the high side. most high end places on the west side are 2-7-10 or 2-8-10.


2. are there better/more value places in donguan city?

dg city's ok. things are a tad more expensive on the west side compared to the east side.... but places are usually better quality. exhibition hotel in dg city is pretty nice. last time i was there, they had some very nice talent working at the ktv there. sheraton in houjie is ok. it used to be better a few years ago, but people are telling me lately that girls there seem a bit spoiled by the large numbers of foreigners there and i think i agree with them.


3. changping/houjie/other donguan area place - are they better places to hang out for mongering compared to dg city?

a lot depends on what you like. cp is bigtime "in your face" with everybody on every street corner asking you if you want girls. if that's not your scene, then any of the other towns are fine. to be honest, ktv is ktv.... not much difference between one high end place and another.


4. travel suggestions for the different localities - i.e. when shud i take the direct train from hkg, or the hi speed train from shenzhen, or take the bus like i did (btw, i went back to hkg by taking the bus from dg city to huangang (rmb45) and then taking the bus to wanchai - journey time less than 2 hours).

best way is probably to take the kcr to shenzhen and then take either a bus or the guang-shen express to various places in dg.


5. any other suggestions/input/perspective on how a newbie to donguan should approach this quite vast area of mongering. i live in hkg and usually screw around a couple times a week in china.
and as far as rtff - yes, of course i did and in fact i've been reading isg quite faithfully and very regularly for at least 3 or 4 years. but donguan does get me all confused - sooooooo much choice, variety, prices, ways etc etc.!!
thanks
se asia joe

dg is pretty big, but i think i mentioned before, it's almost the same everywhere you go. cp is really popular right now because it's really easy to navigate and get to via the guang-shen express. they have more or less everything most guys would go for. it's especially good if you like the bbs scene since there's so many of them. if you're more into the ktv or sauna scene, then cp's not really any different than any other big town like humen, houjie, dg city, chang , etc., etc.there's nothing really special about ktv in cp with the possible exception of the versailles and jiayi where they have the big hall of girls. to be honest though, the big hall of girls doesn't really do it for me so i tend to go to other places.

Moody
11-19-07, 07:57
P.S. Im going to be giving Miraton a skip based on the recent reviews...can someone recommend the next best hotel with internet access in-room?

Thanks in advance.

The hotel next door, Hui Hua. Most wouldn't say the Hui Hua is the "next best hotel" since it's actually a better hotel.

Moody
11-19-07, 08:04
Yes, had I the opportunity, I would cheerfully throttle the designer of Miraton's bathrooms. In the normal setup, the bathroom contains a standalone shower with opaque glass window opening to the bedroom (which I like), plus the bathtub/shower combo with detachable shower head. Around the bathtub's top is a raised ridge, not flush with the wall, that results in a channel for water from the shower. That water has nowhere to go but the floor.

To make matters worse, the bottom of the standalone shower's glass door sits flush with the floor, so it is extremely difficult to prevent water there from escaping the shower. Sometimes when I am using that shower in the company of another, water on the bathroom floor is not my major concern. Only later do I curse it.

It's not that most girls have trouble trashing a bathroom. Seven out of ten seem to have taken an academic course on the subject. The Miraton just makes it easy for them.

It's because you grew up in the west. If you go to any home in Asia (China, Korea, Japan), you'll see all bathrooms have drains on the floor. When you see Asians bathe, they literally fill the bathtub up to the rim, then go in and completely flood their bathrooms. Most bathrooms don't even have shower curtains or doors. They just have a shower head stuck on the wall and the entire bathroom gets wet when they shower. Asians either expect or don't mind a bathroom floor being wet. It's just a different custom and nothing you do really is going to change it.

Santa
11-19-07, 12:19
I have a good room with big bed and safe at the Hui Mei for only 260. The internet connection seems to be pretty fast.

Pointpanic
11-19-07, 14:24
I concur that Hui Hua is the best hotel for business with larger rooms to romp in and a better executive floor. It also has more girls running through its lobby through out the day meeting clients and going to work. Huge KTV and sauna facilities. Breakfast is always fun to see who stayed over. Its just slightly more expensive and you need connections to get the discounted rates. More English is spoken by the staff also. My first choice, though Meriton is nice and so is the Crown Prince but too far from the rest of the action. Santa knows his stuff so I would also follow his recommendation for less expensive accomodations with internet access.

WB


The hotel next door, Hui Hua. Most wouldn't say the Hui Hua is the "next best hotel" since it's actually a better hotel.

Bill Lee
11-19-07, 14:28
The internet connection seems to be pretty fast.
Coming from a guy who still has to read the instructions on a pack of condoms.


Back to business:

A must to avoid

It was late one evening, about 12:30 a.m. and I just gotten back from the night market with a business card and cutie's name in hand.

I decided to check out the Pie Wagon action in front of the Lucky hotel. Well after the third line-up of mini-vans I saw the cutest little thing in the back of the front row. Black top, a little spinner. So with my usual m.o., I paid the mommy 50RMB and then told the mommy that I wanted her sent to my room in 10 minutes after I got there.

The service was pretty good and she was a pro. The right noise and moves.

But after the service, things didn't go so well. Like a real pro, after paying her the 100RMB and a 30 tip for good service, she asked for more. A even 50. Then when I didn't want to give anymore, she sat down on the floor and refuse to budge.

So I offered her a compromise. I told her I wanted to photograph her blowing me. But she misunderstood that I wanted to come in her mouth (not a bad idea) but I straighten it out with her finally understanding that I wanted to photograph her blowing me. But she wouldn't and she even said not for a 1,000RMB. But she kept asking for more tip money which kind of pissed me off after tipping her 30 already. So knowing and hoping that she would not be photographed for 1,000, I kept upping the offer of blowjob with photo from 100 to 600 but she would not agree. Every time she brought up more tip, I would just offer more RMB but with my BJ condition. Finally she left a huff, cursing as she left.

She's cutie but also a real headache. Sorry for the low quality photo but it was a cellphone shot.

Regarding all those comments about the girls' bathroom manners, you guys generalize too much. One person's bad or good manner doesn't account for the entire race or country. If you met a redneck, would you think that all Americans are like that? Or the time I overheard these Vietnamese talking like ducks. Would you say that all Vietnamese talk like ducks?

Bill

Pointpanic
11-19-07, 14:59
I concur, a real cutie. Should have given her the 50 and CIMed her! I would have understood. Great pic for a cell phone camera though. And Yeah enough with the generalizations, though they are funny. Keep up the good work and fun.

WB


Coming from a guy who still has to read the instructions on a pack of condoms.


Back to business:

A must to avoid

It was late one evening, about 12:30 a.m. and I just gotten back from the night market with a business card and cutie's name in hand.

I decided to check out the Pie Wagon action in front of the Lucky hotel. Well after the third line-up of mini-vans I saw the cutest little thing in the back of the front row. Black top, a little spinner. So with my usual m.o., I paid the mommy 50RMB and then told the mommy that I wanted her sent to my room in 10 minutes after I got there.

The service was pretty good and she was a pro. The right noise and moves.

But after the service, things didn't go so well. Like a real pro, after paying her the 100RMB and a 30 tip for good service, she asked for more. A even 50. Then when I didn't want to give anymore, she sat down on the floor and refuse to budge.

So I offered her a compromise. I told her I wanted to photograph her blowing me. But she misunderstood that I wanted to come in her mouth (not a bad idea) but I straighten it out with her finally understanding that I wanted to photograph blowing me. But she wouldn't and she even said not for a 1,000RMB. But she kept asking for more tip money which kind of pissed me off after tipping her 30 already. So knowing and hoping that she would not be photographed for 1,000, I kept upping the offer of blowjob with photo from 100 to 600 but she would not agree. Every time she brought up more tip, I would just offer more RMB but with my BJ condition. Finally she left a huff, cursing as she left.

She's cutie but also a real headache. Sorry for the low quality photo but it was a cellphone shot.

Regarding all those comments about the girls' bathroom manners, you guys generalize too much. One person's bad or good manner doesn't account for the entire race or country. If you met a redneck, would you think that all Americans are like that? Or the time I overheard these Vietnamese talking like ducks. Would you say that all Vietnamese talk like ducks?

Bill

Old Mean Dog
11-19-07, 16:19
Regarding all those comments about the girls' bathroom manners, you guys generalize too much. One person's bad or good manner doesn't account for the entire race or country. If you met a redneck, would you think that all Americans are like that? Or the time I overheard these Vietnamese talking like ducks. Would you say that all Vietnamese talk like ducks?

Bill

Most of us were just talking about the xiaojies in CP, and yeah, about 90% of the girls fecked up my bathroom when I stayed at a hotel. This is "hard" data, not hearsay.

Since Santa is here with nothing to do, maybe he can conduct a survey for us?

-CPE

Open to Explore
11-19-07, 18:18
I have heard rumours of a bikini OK in Dongguan, this is where the girls where only a bikini and before long .... Anyone know where?

Santa
11-19-07, 18:23
Bill Lee: My condom box instructions include "save used condoms for Mr Bill's christmas stocking".

Logos
11-19-07, 18:41
First thing I do in the bathroom, before even taking a crap or a shower, is store away all the paying items in the safe and try to pinch a couple extra towels from housekeeping.

That way when you're done with your 4th girl of the day you can still wipe your balls with a fresh towel.

Bill Lee
11-19-07, 18:42
Most of us were just talking about the xiaojies in CP, and yeah, about 90% of the girls fecked up my bathroom when I stayed at a hotel. This is "hard" data, not hearsay.

Since Santa is here with nothing to do, maybe he can conduct a survey for us?

-CPE

Survey? this freaking guy can't even find himself out a paper bag.

Bill

Rising Son
11-19-07, 19:18
Santa!!! Bill!!!!!

You're there without me?

How could you possibly enjoy yourselves in CP without me to hang around with? What were you thinking?

And more important, does this mean that neither of you will be around in the spring, when I go?

Boy, this is hard to take.

RS

Bill Lee
11-19-07, 20:58
By the time you get here, our sacs will be dried up and all the girls marked with our names on their foreheads.

Talk about Johnny Cum Lately.

Bill


Santa!!! Bill!!!!!

You're there without me?

How could you possibly enjoy yourselves in CP without me to hang around with? What were you thinking?

And more important, does this mean that neither of you will be around in the spring, when I go?

Boy, this is hard to take.

RS

Dan Hawaii
11-19-07, 21:55
I concur that Hui Hua is the best hotel for business with larger rooms to romp in and a better executive floor. It also has more girls running through its lobby through out the day meeting clients and going to work. Huge KTV and sauna facilities. Breakfast is always fun to see who stayed over. Its just slightly more expensive and you need connections to get the discounted rates. More English is spoken by the staff also. My first choice, though Meriton is nice and so is the Crown Prince but too far from the rest of the action. Santa knows his stuff so I would also follow his recommendation for less expensive accomodations with internet access.

WB
I had a friend that stayed at the Hui Hua and I meet him many times. The staff and some of the guests there seems to be stuck up, not cheerful, and have poor manners. I tried exchanging money at the front desk, and guests there don't know the meaning of a line. I starting getting pissed, even the staff there just helps whoever's the first one that shoves stuff in their face, like room key, money, etc... so if you need help there, just run up to the workers and shove shit in their face and they will help you, no need wait in line. Fuck the other customers that are there, just shove them aside and stick one arm with your business in the staff's face. Another incident was at the breakfast buffet, that I had to pay, I forgot how much, I think 80 rmb. It was 5 minutes past 10am and I was asking for orange juice and they said I had to pay for it, because the breakfast buffet was closed already. I was like wtf.

All this happened the same morning. So I told myself I would never stay in this obnoxious hotel, ever. Hui Mei is in a better location and I always had fun at their ktv and bar. Maybe I'll stay there next time, even though they are affiliated hotels. Miraton, I like the staff there, never got rude service there and I stayed there for over 21 days.

Goreng Pisang
11-20-07, 05:15
Hi everyone. I am new to this forum, but definately excited!

Been to CP 3 times. Stayed at Miraton twice and Hui Hua (the one besides MacDonalds) once.

Truely men's paradise. Confirmed a trip there again in Dec 10th to 15th. Anyone interested to join me and friend?

Just wanna clarify one thing. Miraton's toilet did not give me the problems you guys faced. So, was it the hotel's chocked piping that caused the flooding or was it the girls' toilet habit that was bad?

I heard from my driver that the BBS in CP is expensive. He proposed a district that is 20 minutes away. Cost 150RMB. Anyone knows about it?

Wondered why some of you are happy with 2 7 10. I thought it always been 2 5 8?

Cheers

Goreng Pisang (means deep fried bananna in Malay)

Moody
11-20-07, 07:12
I've been to a few Chinese households in California. The houses are worth probably in the 1.5 million dollars range, and the people are fairly well off, pehaps worth a few mil.

Yet they all have the same habit of leaving things on the floor everywhere in every room, clothes, papers, cooking utensils, glasses...everything was spread ut equally on the floor to the point there is no room left to walk on without stepping on something.

Chinese women seem to dislike to clean up and organize their household, or to hire people to do it. I would never be able to live with anyone that messy. It would be very depressing for me, and I am not even a neatness freak.

Tell me if CHinese wives behave differently in China. I hope their sexual habits are not similarly messy...


You REALLY like to generalize about the Chinese don't you??? You meet a couple of nice hookers and you think that Chinese society is great. Then you meet a couple messy housewives and you think they're all dirty. I hate to tell you this, but just like people everywhere else in the world, Chinese are all different. There are tall ones, short ones, nice ones, rude ones, and clean ones and messy ones. Just because you met some messy Chinese people you now think that Chinese women don't like to clean?? That's just ignorant prejudice plain and simple.

I have a neighbor who's crazy clean. She goes through something like 4 bottles of floor cleaner a week. This lady won't hire a maid because she's yet to fine one who can clean to her satisfaction. Not only is she crazy clean, she's also crazy neat. Everybody has dust gathering around tchochkes on high shelves, not this lady. She has 5 air purifiers. She actually irons her husbands socks!!! If you met this lady, you probably would think that all Chinese are obsessive compulsive, and you would be wrong.

Chinese come in approximately 1.6 billion different flavors and to label them all as "messy" is not only insulting, but shows gross ignorance on your part. Before denouncing the shortcomings of an entire race of people who count for about a quarter of the world's population, you should look at what you're lacking....

Goreng Pisang
11-20-07, 08:28
Chinese come in approximately 1.6 billion different flavors and to label them all as "messy" is not only insulting, but shows gross ignorance on your part. Before denouncing the shortcomings of an entire race of people who count for about a quarter of the world's population, you should look at what you're lacking....Ahhhah! Yeah! Go Moody go! I concur!

All race and nationalities have their good, bad and ugly!

Used to have an American white GF. She got this smell that cause my prick to shrink! Am sure not all American pussies smell that way!

Got a Japanese GF a few yrs ago. One of the niceset girl I've known. Bet not all are nice.

Finally, just broke up with a North-East (Sheng Yang) Chinese. She is great in sex but sucks in character. She threatened to break my family apart! Bet not all Chinese are like that!

Lexusman
11-20-07, 09:50
Hi all,

Asking for expert advice from seniors. I will be heading off to DG soon and will be staying at Sheraton using my SPG points. I heard mixed reviews about their KTV and wanted to know your opinions. I already have a medium sized room booked through the registration desk for 7.30pm :D

I speak fluent Mandarin, and read and write, and have been to KTVs in Suzhou and Shanghai previously.

So my options are Jiahua? and the Sheraton KTV?

Thanks in advance!

Shazzam
11-20-07, 10:15
Hi guys,

Just stayed at Grand Howard Hotel in Qingxi Town, about 50 minutes from Shenzen.

They have a massive 4th floor of KTV and an unlisted 5 floor where sex you walk out of the lift and straight to the desk asking for sex massage. They don' speak much English, but you are lead to a big clean hotel room where the mamasan brings in two girls at a time. I choose #87. can't remember her name, but a cute 21 yr old with one of the best natural set of tits you will ever see/feel/lick, etc. Just fantastic.

Anyway, she started by giving me a sexy strip and lap dance as I sat naked just having got out of my clothes. Then she took me to the shower and cleaned me for 10 mins with soapy body rubs, ass rimming and BBBJ.

Off to the bed for more touching and feeling, 69, BBBJ, more ass rimming and covered sex in many positions. She and I had 2 hours of fun. Total cost was 800rmb, which I thought was ok considering what she did to me.

Tiger 888
11-20-07, 12:25
...Chinese come in approximately 1.6 billion different flavors and to label them all as "messy" is not only insulting, but shows gross ignorance on your part. Before denouncing the shortcomings of an entire race of people who count for about a quarter of the world's population, you should look at what you're lacking....Yet most of them are unbelievably predictable.

Logos
11-21-07, 00:12
If like me you like to vary your diet and throw in some excellent sushi in between 2 pussies, there is an excellent Jap restaurant place on the main rd in CP across Lucky's, namely the Aquasushi. I kept walking past it until one day I decided to give it a try.

Friendly English speaking boss, fast, clean and friendly service, and delicious sashimi & sushi platters, with lots of variety such as salmon & advocado salads or grilled or cooked dishes if raw ain't your thing. They will even give a hefty 50% discount after 9 pm and they're open till 1 or 2 am. Good set lunches as well.

Very handy between 2 STs or if you arrive from Europe and are jetlagged for a while with a grumbling stomach around 1 am or so.

Excellent value for money, they are to Jap food what the entire place is to pussy.

Any other recommended places ? Chinese places come 13 a dozen but I found foreign restaurants weren't usually that good.

Santa
11-21-07, 05:08
Moody.

Please stop picking on OWL. I think maybe he has CMD, Chronic Moronic Disorder.

I often suffer from the same affliction. Somewhere in my brain the electrical and chemical connections are in a state of disordered flux, and when I try to concentrate my brain hurts. My medications do not help :(

Pussy gives me some relief because it distracts me from chaotic thoughts and the voices inside my head.

One Wing Low
11-21-07, 06:28
3 unrelated households in the US that invited me in all had unrelated objects piled up in their rooms leaving no room for stepping. That's 100%. It's scientifically safe to conclude that, not all, but perhaps a large percentage of Chinese women are sloppy and have no organization skills.

You cannot draw any valid conclusion based on a sample of 1, and you dont have to sample all 1.6 billion Chinese to arrive at scientifically valid conclusions.


You REALLY like to generalize about the Chinese don't you??? You meet a couple of nice hookers and you think that Chinese society is great. Then you meet a couple messy housewives and you think they're all dirty.

I have a neighbor who's crazy clean. She goes through something like 4 bottles of floor cleaner a week. This lady won't hire a maid because she's yet to fine one who can clean to her satisfaction. Not only is she crazy clean, she's also crazy neat. Everybody has dust gathering around tchochkes on high shelves, not this lady. She has 5 air purifiers. She actually irons her husbands socks!!! If you met this lady, you probably would think that all Chinese are obsessive compulsive, and you would be wrong.

Chinese come in approximately 1.6 billion different flavors and to label them all as "messy" is not only insulting, but shows gross ignorance on your part. Before denouncing the shortcomings of an entire race of people who count for about a quarter of the world's population, you should look at what you're lacking....

AsnDragon
11-21-07, 07:02
Haha, when I saw your title about sushi and pussy, I thought you were talking about the smell.

But glad to hear, I passed by Aquasushi several times, but was afraid of trying it, as I was not too keen on eating raw fish in China. Usually my friends and I hang out at Boton Restaurant, across from the "bu shing jie" near KFC and Mcdonalds. They got great steak for those of you who need to eat some familiar food from back home.


If like me you like to vary your diet and throw in some excellent sushi in between 2 pussies, there is an excellent Jap restaurant place on the main rd in CP across Lucky's, namely the Aquasushi. I kept walking past it until one day I decided to give it a try.

Friendly English speaking boss, fast, clean and friendly service, and delicious sashimi & sushi platters, with lots of variety such as salmon & advocado salads or grilled or cooked dishes if raw ain't your thing. They will even give a hefty 50% discount after 9 pm and they're open till 1 or 2 am. Good set lunches as well.

Very handy between 2 STs or if you arrive from Europe and are jetlagged for a while with a grumbling stomach around 1 am or so.

Excellent value for money, they are to Jap food what the entire place is to pussy.

Any other recommended places ? Chinese places come 13 a dozen but I found foreign restaurants weren't usually that good.

AsnDragon
11-21-07, 07:24
i had to learn the hard way. but never take the blue taxis. only take the yellow ones.

on several occasions i sat on the blue taxis and their fees are higher than the yellow cabs, and they charge you an extra 1 rmb on top of your fare. apparently, before the blue taxis use to dominate the legal taxi market, but now they have the yellow cabs as competition. what i don't get is, with mroe competition supply, there should be a decrease in price. but the blue cabs are still charging more.

i mean 1 rmb doesn't matter all that much, but for some reason it just ticks me off when my cab fare was 18 and when i gave them a 20 they only gave me 1 rmb back.

also because of the yellow cabs and the recent crack down on minivans (bread cars) their fares are even lower than before. they'll take u to yalan from hui mei for 10 rmb if you bargain with them.


also, how's the talent behind hui mei these days? when i was back there a couple of months ago, they had a crackdown, and there was only 3 shops open. i heard from manfest that they got about 6-7 re=opened now. and they have some pretty cute talent.

but as a warning...never go to the bbs behing hui mei that has that one tall papsan, he's seriously gay. loves to touch clients. i told him to back off last time, and he locked me inside the room and wouldn't let me out. i had to really throw a fit in order for him to open the door.

jia mei, had this one room in their hotel with 30 girls. the assistant manager took my friends and i up there once. they stashing literally 30 girls in one room with little to no air ventilation at all. it was so humid and muggy inside that the wallpaper / paint looked like it was peeling off. they had some cute girls in there, but i was suffocating inside and i had to get outta there. regret not staying to take a better look. has anyone been up to jia mei hotel, right behind hui mei hotel?

Rising Son
11-21-07, 07:28
Bill Lee wrote:

By the time you get here, our sacs will be dried up and all the girls marked with our names on their foreheads. , ,



It's well known that Bill's sac can dry up under a ceiling fan, and if any girls actually have his name on their foreheads, I expect to see a lot of bangs when I arrive.

Those poor little things, traumatized by Bill and Santa. It'll take me days to straighten them out.

RS

Santa
11-21-07, 10:31
Expat, has only got one ball.
Arctic, has two but very small.
Santa, his balls don't matter.
And Bill Lee has no balls at all!

Old Mean Dog
11-21-07, 16:31
Expat, has only got one ball.
Arctic, has two but very small.
Santa, his balls don't matter.
And Bill Lee has no balls at all!


Would you please back away from the computer and go get some pussy...and I mean from a girl!

Santa had a little ram

He also had a bull

Three horses and an Elephant

He has no shame at all

He fucked them here

He fucked them there

He had not a shred of morality

'Cos Santa was a naughty bugger

and into bestiality

-CPE

Moody
11-21-07, 17:31
3 unrelated households in the US that invited me in all had unrelated objects piled up in their rooms leaving no room for stepping. That's 100%. It's scientifically safe to conclude that, not all, but perhaps a large percentage of Chinese women are sloppy and have no organization skills.

You cannot draw any valid conclusion based on a sample of 1, and you dont have to sample all 1.6 billion Chinese to arrive at scientifically valid conclusions.

I agree with Cowa Banga, you're an idiot. You would probably go to a US prison and see that 90% of the population there is Black and say something stupid like, "hmmmm....., 90% of all Blacks must be criminals....." Idiot.

One Wing Low
11-22-07, 00:22
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Fast Eddie 48
11-22-07, 00:25
I had a friend that stayed at the Hui Hua and I meet him many times. The staff and some of the guests there seems to be stuck up, not cheerful, and have poor manners. I tried exchanging money at the front desk, and guests there don't know the meaning of a line. I starting getting pissed, even the staff there just helps whoever's the first one that shoves stuff in their face, like room key, money, etc... so if you need help there, just run up to the workers and shove shit in their face and they will help you, no need wait in line. Fuck the other customers that are there, just shove them aside and stick one arm with your business in the staff's face. Another incident was at the breakfast buffet, that I had to pay, I forgot how much, I think 80 rmb. It was 5 minutes past 10am and I was asking for orange juice and they said I had to pay for it, because the breakfast buffet was closed already. I was like wtf.

All this happened the same morning. So I told myself I would never stay in this obnoxious hotel, ever. Hui Mei is in a better location and I always had fun at their ktv and bar. Maybe I'll stay there next time, even though they are affiliated hotels. Miraton, I like the staff there, never got rude service there and I stayed there for over 21 days.Dan,

You should ask if the OJ for 80 rmb come with a BBBJ , this is China not the US poor service is the norm don't matter 3-4 star hotel , I think if you go to Shanghai or Hong kong service is much better and I don't like people cut in line also cannot never get use to that .

Fast eddie 48

Moody
11-22-07, 00:42
One Wing Low,

I guarantee you a LOT of guys on this board would disagree with your opinion of me. I also guarantee you that a lot of guys here would agree with my assessment of you. [Deleted by Admin]. Nuff said.

BTW, when the Chinese call you "shabi," it doesn't mean "handsome man." It means "idiot."

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Old Mean Dog
11-22-07, 04:38
Very interesting yesterday, with a star studded cast of Mongers to include: OAH, Bill Lee, Santa, Wadman, Tiger888, Sukimvetter, Merlin, Laowai123, Gentilman Jim, a couple of other mongers not on ISG as of yet, myself (i.e. Homer) and the guest of honor, straight on the rebound: SE Asia Joe.

I think it might have been one of the largest get-togethers to date. It seemed like a big parade to most of the locals, but the mommies where wetting themselves to see many of us come rolling in.

The biggest surprise of the day for me was the Swan Lake KTV, they have moved the girls out of the KTV/Hotel and much further down the road into one big room. Must have been around 30-40 girls in there and many of them were real stunners.

The Catacombs are still a very dark and sleezy place.

My mind and penis still want to go back and get the tall beauty (5'9"-5'10"), that was shown to OAH.

-CPE

BTW: OWL, you are making a broad, sweeping generalization. If it is scientifically proven as you say, show us the research and data, so that your comments can be justified. Just because 3 Asian families you know keep an untidy house does not mean they all do.

Fran123
11-22-07, 04:45
I agree with everyone here that you are just a stupid loser asshole.

Guys like you are just stupid, uncivilized assholesOne Wing Low you often exaggerate or lie about what happens in your post. You like to overstate the truth and it's hard to believe. You have been busted a few times. A few others would join in but you are already on their IGNORE LIST. I'm just joining in and agreeing with others about you.

Another thing you often blame others if you get into trouble. One time you got sick and blamed others for bring you to a restaurant you did not pick. Another time, paying more than the going price for a girl in Zhuhai. You claimed nobody told and got upset. Then you claimed to have taken the pictures of girls at a naked KTV. The next thing is some racial comments about Chinese guys on how they treat their woman badly. What's this about Hong Kong fuckers with backpacks? Your opinions are very different from other people. Your were stupid giving some girl something like, 1500.00RMB for tip you met only once. What's this about all Chinese being dirty people. How are all Chinese women sloppy and have no organization skills. You ONLY went to three homes out of 1.4 billion.


I was gently advised by my Chinese friends, that If I was gonna invite people to visit China, encourage them to sample the social, cultural, economic aspects of the average local people, rather than taking them straight to the commercial sex zones What Chinese friends. If they know what you are think about them, they will castrate you. It's YOU saying this about cultural and economic aspects. I don't believe you have any friends in China or Chinese in high society. What's this about your Chinese friend encouraging you to come back to China to join them for pussie hunt. Yeah right, then I wonder why are you always looking for people to join you in the hunt.

I heard ALL Vietnamese are disgusting people and cannot fight, causing the USA to lose the war.

Wadman
11-22-07, 06:15
One Wing Low,

Your posts are full of dubious information. Since you don't speak a word of Mandarin, I don't know how you draw your wide-sweeping conclusions.

And now you start calling super-seniors names. You may think that you too are a super-senior because you have 800+ posts, but it's becoming clear that they are all full of BS.

You are getting it all wrong again: nobody here has mentioned anything bad about Moody, "stupid loser asshole" is what people call YOU!




I agree with everyone here that you are just a stupid loser asshole.

Guys like you are just stupid, uncivilized assholes

Dan Hawaii
11-22-07, 09:17
I agree with everyone here that you are just a stupid loser asshole.

Guys like you are just stupid, uncivilized assholes
I have to disagree with you. I meet Moody and he is a cool, well-informed, civilized person, and is known as the KTV King... and I believe it! He asked me, "which KTV you want to go to tonight?", and I said I was trying to get a booking at Hui Hua KTV but it was always fully booked, even on the weekdays. This was on a Saturday at 6pm, he called Hui Hua and got a booking with no problem. Talk about "pull".

I never met you, OWL, but you need to get a grip. You are making yourself look bad throwing tantrums.

SE Asia Joe
11-22-07, 09:30
Very interesting yesterday, with a star studded cast of Mongers to include: OAH, Bill Lee, Santa, Wadman, Tiger888, Sukimvetter, Merlin, Laowai123, Gentilman Jim, a couple of other mongers not on ISG as of yet, myself (i.e. Homer) and the guest of honor, straight on the rebound: SE Asia Joe.

I think it might have been one of the largest get-togethers to date. It seemed like a big parade to most of the locals, but the mommies where wetting themselves to see many of us come rolling in.

The biggest surprise of the day for me was the Swan Lake KTV, they have moved the girls out of the KTV/Hotel and much further down the road into one big room. Must have been around 30-40 girls in there and many of them were real stunners.

The Catacombs are still a very dark and sleezy place.

My mind and penis still want to go back and get the tall beauty (5'9"-5'10"), that was shown to OAH.

-CPE

.
Gentlemen:
I would like to formally THANK ALL OF YOU for making me feel so welcome AND for so readily accepting me amongst yourselves. I am truly honored.
I would like to especially thank Old Asia Hand, Bill Lee, Santa, Tiger 888 and Wadman who so kindly took me under their wings and really showed me what Dongguan is all about.
I am truly amazed at the variety, quantity, price, value for money, service Level and Overall HIGH QUALITY of providers in Changping and figure I will most likely spend many more days there in the future.... and for that, as I said previoulsy, I thank all of you gentlemen.
Regards
SE Asia Joe

One Wing Low
11-22-07, 12:21
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1 down, 2 to go

Will somebody please report this guy's next personal attack via the "Report this Post to a Moderator" link, and be sure to note that it will be his 2nd violation.

Thanks,

Jackson

Bill Lee
11-22-07, 13:38
Three days ago, girls from "Behind the Green Door" at the Banyan tree try to charge and may have gotten away with 150 for service, after 100 to mommy with some newbies.

Now tonight, one of the girls at the 2nd floor shop (not Jojo's girls) tried to charge 150 too.

It's getting to be a trend and eventually the standard there.

Bill

OldAsiaHand
11-22-07, 14:04
OWL,

You are going off the deep end. I've been letting a lot of your BS slide lately not wanting to get into unecessary confrontations. I even gave you advice regarding a girl you met at the Beijing airport when you requested it from me.

However, I cannot stand by and let you attack my good friend Moody. Agreement takes at least two parties. There is not one member on this board that considers Moody to be as you describe him. You have never even met the man.

You push the wrong buttons. I agree with Moody that you should take a long, hard look at your limited experience before you jump to your conclusions.

Just my POV.

OAH

P.S. My Chinese wife keeps everything in order and our place absolutely spotless. I am far worse the slob.


I agree with everyone here that you are just a stupid loser asshole.

Guys like you are just stupid, uncivilized assholes

Ace Gallant
11-22-07, 17:36
I agree with everyone here that you are just a stupid loser asshole.

Guys like you are just stupid, uncivilized assholesOWL! Stop this at once! This board is not for the purpose of flaming and throwing insults at each other!

Moody is one of the best fun guy I had met from ISG and one that I would consider a good friend. He is not at all someone as you had described.

Moody; I think you should keep your cool and ignore any further comments from OWL to you. Besides; you are too civilized and is not like you to throw insults on the board.

AG

PS: I had asked Jackson if he can removed these useless posts.

Moody
11-22-07, 18:49
Hi ace,

This guy started the insult first, calling me an idiot.

He must be a stupid and uncivilized loser.

Anyone who insults me will get insults back.

You should advise your friend, not me.

You really do live in a bizarre fantasy world don't you??? You're not "Long CU" with another name are you??? Look at your last couple of posts.


"I agree with everyone here that you are just a stupid loser asshole."

So tell me, who on the board has called me a "stupid loser asshole?" Who is this "everybody" you're referring to??? Give me one name. I bet you can't, but I bet I can find dozens of instances where people basically call you an idiot but were being nice and didn't say it out right.

And now this:


"He just jumped right in, talked emotionally, lost the argument and started to call me idiot."

What argument?? What emotion?? All I did was point out that you're an idiot. You must read a lot of extra meaning into what people write. Anybody who draws wide sweeping generalizations about a population from meeting a couple of people is a fool and believe me, you draw some very bizarre conclusions from your meetings. I mean come on..... the hookers good attitudes means Chinese society is great??? What da fuck is that???? I don't think anybody else in the history of planet earth has drawn that kind of bizarre conclusion. That's almost as weird as saying something like... "oh the dim sum was bad, must mean all Hong Kongese are bad...."

As for your insults, they don't bother me at all because I know they're not true. But I know that me calling you an idiot bothers you a lot because, well, we all know I'm right.

One small clarification in closing.... They're not insults if they're true.... Calling a mentally challenged person a retard isn't really an insult, it's just the truth. It's not politically correct, but it's not an insult. So I'm not really insulting you. Just pointing out what you are.

Moody
11-22-07, 18:57
Moody; I think you should keep your cool and ignore any further comments from OWL to you. Besides; you are too civilized and is not like you to throw insults on the board.

AG


The guy's an idiot, and people should know him for what he is, otherwise they might take him seriously.

Remember his advice what to do when you're confronted by 3-4 guys? His brilliant idea was to kick 'em all in the nuts or find a pipe. This is obviously advice from someone who has never EVER been in a fight. Anybody who's been in a real fight knows you're gonna get beat down if you try anything like that. He obviously thinks the world is like the movies where you can move 4X faster than the other guy and there's random pipes laying around everywhere for you to just pick up and use as a weapon.

I'm telling you, this guy doesn't live in the real world like the rest of us. He lives in some bizarre OWL fantasyland where he's faster than Bruce Lee, a bigger ladies' man than George Clooney, and has the political and social insight of Henry Kissinger.

Old Mean Dog
11-22-07, 18:58
Hi ace,

This guy started the insult first, calling me an idiot.

He must be a stupid and uncivilized loser.

Anyone who insults me will get insults back.

You should advise your friend, not me.

As Wadman and Weelock have said, you have been spouting garbage for far too long on ISG. Then you started all these damn Penthouse Letter reports on the SZ thread (which everyone knows Penthouse Letters are written by jackoffs with one hand on the keyboard and the other on their crank as they fantasize). Your reports did not provide any useful information except you trying to promote yourself to the freshmen and satisfy your own damn ego.

I called you out on some of those posts and you directly attacked me and my personal life openly on this forum, from second hand information you obtained from another person. If you are so interested in me, you could have asked me directly rather then gleen information from a monger who does not even run in the same circle as me. I live in CP and come to SZ 3 days a week, I would have been more than willing to tell you to STFU in person.

Now, you want to bleed over to the Dongguan thread and start talking shit once again and slagging anyone who challenges you. I do not know Moody personally, but I respect him for his reputation as a standup guy. Most all the others who are calling you out, are people I know and also respect in real life and on ISG. Even AG is coming out of hiberation to tell you to STFU.

I think we should suggest to Jackson that OWL gets his own thread as did others like him such as Stanley Ho, Midea and Azn Playa.

OWL, don't go away angry, just go away.

-CPE

Santa
11-22-07, 21:09
Wow! It's nice to know I'm not the only chronic fucking moronic on this forum. Birds of a feather flock together! :D Ho,ho,ho.

OAH. Where's the pussy at? You dirty fucking fart! :D

Dan Hawaii
11-22-07, 21:30
Three days ago, girls from "Behind the Green Door" at the Banyan tree try to charge and may have gotten away with 150 for service, after 100 to mommy with some newbies.

Now tonight, one of the girls at the 2nd floor shop (not Jojo's girls) tried to charge 150 too.

It's getting to be a trend and eventually the standard there.

Bill
Dam Biatches and mommies, got to ask for the price before taking the girl out of the BBS. If the price is 250 just walk away and they will go back to the correct price. I got taken and would have just sat them out at the hotel, but we had a KTV booking and did not want to miss the Jia Yi Hall of Heaven.

One Wing Low
11-22-07, 23:33
Who think little of you and your posts. Did they tell you to go away?

They must be more tolerant and more civilized than you!

No, I am far from being interested in you or whatever you are doing. Dont be so sensitive about yourself and your business.

In contrary to what you think there are plenty of people who enjoy my posts and got good information from them.

So STFU.



As Wadman and Weelock have said, you have been spouting garbage for far too long on ISG. Then you started all these damn Penthouse Letter reports on the SZ thread (which everyone knows Penthouse Letters are written by jackoffs with one hand on the keyboard and the other on their crank as they fantasize). Your reports did not provide any useful information except you trying to promote yourself to the freshmen and satisfy your own damn ego.

I called you out on some of those posts and you directly attacked me and my personal life openly on this forum, from second hand information you obtained from another person. If you are so interested in me, you could have asked me directly rather then gleen information from a monger who does not even run in the same circle as me. I live in CP and come to SZ 3 days a week, I would have been more than willing to tell you to STFU in person.

Now, you want to bleed over to the Dongguan thread and start talking shit once again and slagging anyone who challenges you. I do not know Moody personally, but I respect him for his reputation as a standup guy. Most all the others who are calling you out, are people I know and also respect in real life and on ISG. Even AG is coming out of hiberation to tell you to STFU.

I think we should suggest to Jackson that OWL gets his own thread as did others like him such as Stanley Ho, Midea and Azn Playa.

OWL, don't go away angry, just go away.

-CPE

Bnlee2
11-23-07, 02:01
Who think little of you and your posts. Did they tell you to go away?

They must be more tolerant and more civilized than you!

No, I am far from being interested in you or whatever you are doing. Dont be so sensitive about yourself and your business.

In contrary to what you think there are plenty of people who enjoy my posts and got good information from them.

So STFU.

Hey guys.

"Can't ye all.... just get along"
If not, i will be back in mid january... and i will pay for a nice suite at the Hui Hua ... and i want all of you guys.. get into the room and im just going to shut off all the lights...padlock the door...and let you guys..all take care of business and feelings..

I will come back in the morning..and unlock the suites..door...and hopefully you guys would have all settle your differences.

As for me... for the evening... i will be having more than my share of fun at Jia Yi KTV. For all you guys dueling it out in the suite. i will choose a gal for you.... and lets all these ladies.. orgy me to death..

don't worry...i will make sure i open up your room door in the morning and i will be accompany be a few medics just incase they need to patch a couple of you guys up.

go for it.

Old Mean Dog
11-23-07, 03:47
Who think little of you and your posts. Did they tell you to go away?

They must be more tolerant and more civilized than you!

No, I am far from being interested in you or whatever you are doing. Dont be so sensitive about yourself and your business.

In contrary to what you think there are plenty of people who enjoy my posts and got good information from them.

So STFU.

Yes, of course, A legend in your own mind. I hope you will continue to post such accurate and informative posts, should anyone disagree with you, please feel free to personally attack them and/or throw a tantrum and call them names.

I don't give two shits if you know what I do here hell, PM me and I'll send you my company's website. What I do have a problem with is the fact that you attacked me and what I do openly on a forum read by thousands.

I have never insulted what you do for a living or said anything derogatory about you as a person. I made comments about your posts on this forum and felt they were skewed, so I called you out on them. This is where you feel that if challenged, you need to resort to hurling personal attacks and insults to defend your posts, rather than backup your information.

Why don't you go back and look at what you have written and figure out why most all the local/experienced S. China mongers have issues with your reports.

I hope the mods will review your posts and the responses by others, but until then, why don't you lay off the name calling and personal attacks on people.

Now, back to business and pussy.

-CPE

Xrelief
11-23-07, 04:02
Hi All,

Just to let bros know about one of the generic performance pills I tried during my recent trip. Much cheaper than Viagra or Cialis and no side-effects whatsoever except perhaps a fuller cock. Feels a bit hottish since blood remaining in cock for longer than normal. Haha. Very safe IMHO. One pill taken even a few hours before deed is sufficient. No need half hour before.

Just a pill a day will do. No harm trying right and its damn cheap!

Attached 2 pictures of this 'vitamin'.

Comes in a plastic bottle containing 8 red pills and selling over the counter in most pharmacies in CP for RMB 90. Didn't ask in ZhuHai or SZ, so not sure if they are selling it there too.

I think its a concunction of safe Chinese herbs and deer antlers etc.

Stay safe and happy mongering.

Xrelief

OldAsiaHand
11-23-07, 04:33
My mind and penis still want to go back and get the tall beauty (5'9"-5'10"), that was shown to OAH.

CPExpat,

Did you try her yet? I reckon that the mama was more keen than the girl. I got a bad vibe (or, no vibe) from the girl but I could be wrong. I was tempted, but I elected to take one of Hua Hua's girls from "Baby" instead of the "tall beauty". Service was excellent.

My Night Market, 2nd round, Dongbei beauty was a disappointment. I expected it. She was gorgeous, but this is often a sign of poor service. Locked the bathroom door and showered by herself. On the bed, right down to business. She was technically proficient, but nothing more. I popped and she was gone.

OAH

OldAsiaHand
11-23-07, 04:45
Three days ago, girls from "Behind the Green Door" at the Banyan tree try to charge and may have gotten away with 150 for service, after 100 to mommy with some newbies.

Now tonight, one of the girls at the 2nd floor shop (not Jojo's girls) tried to charge 150 too.

It's getting to be a trend and eventually the standard there.

Bill

Bill,

When we were there on Wednesday, Santa asked me to confirm the price with the mama from the room on the left. She said 150 for the girl. When I asked for Santa's 100 RMB back, she said, "I thought he did not know the price." BS! Santa is there every day. She finally agreed to 100 + 20 for cab fare for the girl.

OAH

N.B. When we went back with SE Asia Joe and Tiger about an hour later, Santa's girl was back in the shop. Bill asked her about Santa. She told us that he had the smallest dick she had ever seen! Or, was it the biggest dick she had ever seen? Do you remember Bill?

SE Asia Joe
11-23-07, 05:00
CPExpat,


My Night Market, 2nd round, Dongbei beauty was a disappointment. I expected it. She was gorgeous, but this is often a sign of poor service. Locked the bathroom door and showered by herself. On the bed, right down to business. She was technically proficient, but nothing more. I popped and she was gone.

OAH
These Pixs are to thank all of my new found friends at CP
First one, Xiao Kuen at RMB200 told me that she really wants to "start her career" in earnest in CP and would really love to get a Photo assignment (and get paid for)for "one of those Hong Kong magazines" - and thus her more than willingness to pose. (but of course guys - please do NOT anybody tell anyone that I posted her here - comprende eh?)
The second one - Lai Lai at RMB150 from the night market, was a complete trooper, bubbly and ready to do whatever it took to please. Nice gal and a true professional I say!
Actually after Lai Lai, I had phoned OAH for him to send his tall DongBei beauty down to my room but unfortunately she had already gone. Pity as I really thought that she was an exceptional beauty, a solid 10 in my book and one that I wouldn't even mind if her service was terrible - as the money would have been more than worth it just to be able to look at that beautiful face and Fab body. Oh well.... next time I hope.
SE Asia Joe

Moody
11-23-07, 05:04
All you US expats out there, hope you guys had a great Thanksgiving. I ate and drank so much tonight I had to take a nap.... Anyway, I'll probably see you guys in a couple of weeks. Hope it's not too cold when I arrive.

Moody
11-23-07, 05:17
In ref. CPExpat

I know a few people Who think little of you and your posts.



I doubt it, but it could be true. But at least he doesn't post anything stupid.

How about this. I hire 4 guys to beat you up a little bit, nothing major, and you show us your ball kicking technique??? I'd love to see it. Maybe you can teach it to us too so that when it happens to us, we know what to do..... Hell, I've never met you, you might very well be Bruce Lee reincarnated.

Then after that maybe you can show us all those KTVs that have the hot girls who speak good English. Then in the morning we can go downstairs for breakfast to make fun of all the women with rich husbands being jealous of our KTV girls. Once we finish with that, maybe you can show us those hookers with good character that prove that Chinese society is so great. Then maybe you can introduce us to your Chinese friends who want foreigners to appreciate the culture and not the chicks. Maybe they can give us a good tour since they seem so knowledgable. Maybe they'll even give us a tour of their messy Chinese houses because you know, you saw 3 messy Chinese households and that's gotta mean all Chinese are messy.

I'm sure there's more OWLisms out there, but I haven't been on the board for 3 months and I don't really feel like reading 3 months of the forum to point out more stupid things. But I'm sure they're there. I hope that now all the newbies and lurkers out there understand that OWL is living in some bizarre fantasy world and that he has no clue about China or the Chinese.

Old Mean Dog
11-23-07, 06:25
CPExpat,

Did you try her yet? I reckon that the mama was more keen than the girl. I got a bad vibe (or, no vibe) from the girl but I could be wrong. I was tempted, but I elected to take one of Hua Hua's girls from "Baby" instead of the "tall beauty". Service was excellent.

My Night Market, 2nd round, Dongbei beauty was a disappointment. I expected it. She was gorgeous, but this is often a sign of poor service. Locked the bathroom door and showered by herself. On the bed, right down to business. She was technically proficient, but nothing more. I popped and she was gone.

OAH

I used to like getting a new girl every time I went shopping, but realized it was a gamble and I was getting tired of bad service. Nowadays, if I find a girl(s) who gives good service, I stick with them until they start becoming lazy and/or complacent, then I go on another new shopping spree. Considering I pull 2-3 times a week, it's best to go with the reliable ones.

I usually prefer the little ones over the big ones, but she did look delicious. I met up with Sukimvetter last night over at the Silvery Springs Sauna and he said that girl was actually in her late 20's!

I have never really gotten good service from the Swan Lake Girls and prefer the Nightmarket, Baby's and the Yalan area over them.

-CPE

BTW: The Silvery Springs is a pretty posh setup, very plush and comfortable. Sauna with dinner and a footie was only 148 rmb total. Did not try the body massage or the pool with the little fish that nibble away at your dead skin, as the guys sitting in there looked worried and were holding their packages very securely.

Fast Eddie 48
11-23-07, 06:54
These Pixs are to thank all of my new found friends at CP
First one, Xiao Kuen at RMB200 told me that she really wants to "start her career" in earnest in CP and would really love to get a Photo assignment (and get paid for)for "one of those Hong Kong magazines" - and thus her more than willingness to pose. (but of course guys - please do NOT anybody tell anyone that I posted her here - comprende eh?)

The second one - Lai Lai at RMB150 from the night market, was a complete trooper, bubbly and ready to do whatever it took to please. Nice gal and a true professional I say!

Actually after Lai Lai, I had phoned OAH for him to send his tall DongBei beauty down to my room but unfortunately she had already gone. Pity as I really thought that she was an exceptional beauty, a solid 10 in my book and one that I wouldn't even mind if her service was terrible - as the money would have been more than worth it just to be able to look at that beautiful face and Fab body. Oh well.... next time I hope.

SE Asia JoeSE Asia Joe,

Nice find very good pick up boy I miss CP both girl look like ktv quality ,the first girl Xiao kuen which bbs did you find her it.

Fast eddie 48

Weelock
11-23-07, 08:21
My mind and penis still want to go back and get the tall beauty (5'9"-5'10"), that was shown to OAH.

A tall Chinese Amazon, my favorite. Hope she’s still there next month when I get to CP.

ONE WING LOW:

OWL, unless you are 6’2” plus, built like a tank and know some martial arts, I really doubt you can take on 4 guys. If you want to prove us wrong, just tell us where and when you will be in China, Mexico or where you live. Like Moody said, you can show us your “Ball kicking technique”. When the time comes, if nobody is there, you can start without us with your "Ball kicking Technique" on yourself.

SE Asia Joe
11-23-07, 11:03
SE Asia Joe,

Nice find very good pick up boy I miss CP both girl look like ktv quality ,the first girl Xiao kuen which bbs did you find her it.

Fast eddie 48
Am not sure which BBS I got her from as OAH and Bill Lee took me to at least 10 of them on the first sweep - but she is under Momma Xiao Hua (PM me if you want her ##). And you know what - she's so new she does NOT have her own mobile phone!! Imagine that - a xiaojie who has not even gotten her own phone - that's how new she is!! She was a Tea Pourer prior to this - but like I said, she's now bound and determined to succeed in CP and dreams of getting a photo shoot when she will make THOUSANDS per session! So you guys who approach her with the angle of taking photo shoots - be prepared to shell out big $$ - otherwise - why not just negotiate the regular RMB200!! And enjoy!!
SE Asia Joe

AsnDragon
11-23-07, 11:18
SE Asia Joe,

Dude, you got a really good f ind with Xiao Kuen. On top of that you scored even more points that she's completely new to the trade. Fresh girls are always the best in some ways. It gets tiring to walk into a BBS and you find that after a couple of months, the stock is still almost the same. Girls that claim they've only been working for 2 weeks, when you've seen them like once 2 months ago and then another time 4 months ago in the lineup.

Man, how much was the damage to take her picture that time.

Good job, you totally scored big time with Xiao Kuen. She reminds me of this Chinese actress on TV.


Am not sure which BBS I got her from as OAH and Bill Lee took me to at least 10 of them on the first sweep - but she is under Momma Xiao Hua (PM me if you want her ##). And you know what - she's so new she does NOT have her own mobile phone!! Imagine that - a xiaojie who has not even gotten her own phone - that's how new she is!! She was a Tea Pourer prior to this - but like I said, she's now bound and determined to succeed in CP and dreams of getting a photo shoot when she will make THOUSANDS per session! So you guys who approach her with the angle of taking photo shoots - be prepared to shell out big $$ - otherwise - why not just negotiate the regular RMB200!! And enjoy!!
SE Asia Joe

Hollow Man
11-23-07, 18:13
First one, Xiao Kuen at RMB200 told me that she really wants to "start her career" in earnest in CP and would really love to get a Photo assignment (and get paid for)for "one of those Hong Kong magazines" - and thus her more than willingness to pose. (but of course guys - please do NOT anybody tell anyone that I posted her here - comprende eh?)

SE Asia JoeDude this girl is a look-alike (young one) of a famous HK actresss Christy Chung. She's super hot. Good job man.

http://cine-hk.chez-alice.fr/Hkcine/SITE/Acteurs/christy-chung.htm

Bill Lee
11-23-07, 19:12
N.B. When we went back with SE Asia Joe and Tiger about an hour later, Santa's girl was back in the shop. Bill asked her about Santa. She told us that he had the smallest dick she had ever seen! Or, was it the biggest dick she had ever seen? Do you remember Bill?

She showed us her pinky and giggled. She said that Santa took too long in unrolling the condom and was frustrated with the instructions.

You would think that this Santa was good at the "ho ho ho" business but he ain't.

Happy Holidays!
Bill

Bill Lee
11-23-07, 19:19
LE picked up couple of mommies tonight in the Yalan area and fined them a thousand RMB each. As per the information from one of the mommies.

I was also at the night market at about 1:10 a.m. and it was closed. There was a police patrol in the area with their red and blue lights on.

Bill

AsnDragon
11-24-07, 08:02
I heard from somewhere that those performance pills that you took pictures of, are sometimes fake. You should really be careful when buying them. In China there's always fake things for everything.

But my friend actually said that stuff works, but sometimes he says that it lasts for a little bit tooo long. Not too sure, never tried it before. Perhaps I should take it just to see what it's like.

What's the difference between that and Viagra and Cialas? Is it just as effective?


Hi All,

Just to let bros know about one of the generic performance pills I tried during my recent trip. Much cheaper than Viagra or Cialis and no side-effects whatsoever except perhaps a fuller cock. Feels a bit hottish since blood remaining in cock for longer than normal. Haha. Very safe IMHO. One pill taken even a few hours before deed is sufficient. No need half hour before.

Just a pill a day will do. No harm trying right and its damn cheap!

Attached 2 pictures of this 'vitamin'.

Comes in a plastic bottle containing 8 red pills and selling over the counter in most pharmacies in CP for RMB 90. Didn't ask in ZhuHai or SZ, so not sure if they are selling it there too.

I think its a concunction of safe Chinese herbs and deer antlers etc.

Stay safe and happy mongering.

Xrelief

Xrelief
11-24-07, 16:41
I heard from somewhere that those performance pills that you took pictures of, are sometimes fake. You should really be careful when buying them. In China there's always fake things for everything.

But my friend actually said that stuff works, but sometimes he says that it lasts for a little bit tooo long. Not too sure, never tried it before. Perhaps I should take it just to see what it's like.

What's the difference between that and Viagra and Cialas? Is it just as effective?Hi AsnDragon,

Actually I took these pills only out of curiosity but luckily no side effects.

I never tried Viagra or Cialis before but saw lots being openly offered while I was holidaying in Manila and Angeles City.

Not that I need them. Actually.

Better stick to red bull and prawns because I think its more natural as an chonging aid. Haha.

Cheers

Xrelief

One Wing Low
11-24-07, 18:46
Thanks for your offer of your “Ball licking technique”.




ONE WING LOW:

OWL, unless you are 6’2” plus, built like a tank and know some martial arts, I really doubt you can take on 4 guys. If you want to prove us wrong, just tell us where and when you will be in China, Mexico or where you live. Like Moody said, you can show us your “Ball kicking technique”. When the time comes, if nobody is there, you can start without us with your "Ball kicking Technique" on yourself.

ManonsanBoy
11-24-07, 22:19
I heard from somewhere that those performance pills that you took pictures of, are sometimes fake. You should really be careful when buying them. In China there's always fake things for everything.

But my friend actually said that stuff works, but sometimes he says that it lasts for a little bit tooo long. Not too sure, never tried it before. Perhaps I should take it just to see what it's like.

What's the difference between that and Viagra and Cialas? Is it just as effective?


Mongers

Do not buy performance pills in China. A lot actually work but their safety is unknown. This is because many contains analogues of viagra or cialis; similar but without the benefit of exhaustive research. They may have bad side effects.

Old Mean Dog
11-25-07, 04:23
Mongers

Do not buy performance pills in China. A lot actually work but their safety is unknown. This is because many contains analogues of viagra or cialis; similar but without the benefit of exhaustive research. They may have bad side effects.

I have taken quite a few of the different types of pills (I like to live on the razors edge) and even tried the moist towelette you wipe on your tool. Some worked, some did not, but most all had mild to major side effects.

I have heard some of these are sprayed with anti-freeze and others with a pesticide, banned in the USA.

I now only use the brand my friend recommends who owns a small shop in Shenzhen. I have been using "Tiger" now for about 4-5 months without any major side effects (slight headache if I take a whole tablet). Comes in a small metal box with 6 tabs (recommend only taking half a tab). I would suggest not to test any of these pills, if you have any medical problems especially with your ticker.

legit V and C can be bought from most all reputable pharmacies here.

-CPE

BTW: The moist towelette did not work, but my tool felt nice and fresh.

TonyBuzz
11-25-07, 05:52
Hello to all Senior and regualar members,

I am a new memeber to ISG and thanks to the invaluable info given on this board (yep, I did RTFF) I am ready and set to have a great time in CP and SZ. Will be staying at the Lucky hotel in CP from 22nd December for a fortnight and would love to meet with members for a christmas lunch or new year's eve bash, or any other excuse to have a good time. If anyone is going to a KTV then I would love to join. Anyone interested please PM me.

Moody
11-25-07, 19:57
A stupid, illiterate, insulting asshole Moody.

That's what you are.

Let me tell you something so you don't make a bigger fool out of yourself than you already have. The more you make these kinds of posts, the stupider you look.

You're real sensitive to criticism aren't you? I get the feeling you got picked on a lot when you were a kid. You're probably kinda scrawny and backed down from fights when you were small. I'm betting that English isn't your native language (because you can't even make complete sentences) and I bet the kids made fun of you in school. On the internet, you can talk all tough and no one's gonna come and beat you up, so you talk shit to make up for all those times you chickened out or took crap from the bigger kids.

I can tell you're a real insecure guy. You want approval from everybody so you make up shit, or you act like a tough guy (LMAO), or you brag about hookers falling in love with you (ROTFLMAO), or repeat the same thing over and over so the newbies think you're the BMOC. Let me tell you right now, none of us more experienced guys are falling for it. I bet I'm right about everything.

Santa
11-25-07, 20:29
I heard that one week ago a taiwanese guy had a stroke after drinking too much booze in the Hui Hua KTV. He was overweight and had high blood pressure. Last night he died. Age 36

The problem with visiting barbershops is they are often raided. Some of them were raided friday night. If you are concerned about being caught in such a situation, it is better to go to hotel ktvs and saunas.

Bnlee2
11-25-07, 21:59
Hello to all Senior and regualar members,

I am a new memeber to ISG and thanks to the invaluable info given on this board (yep, I did RTFF) I am ready and set to have a great time in CP and SZ. Will be staying at the Lucky hotel in CP from 22nd December for a fortnight and would love to meet with members for a christmas lunch or new year's eve bash, or any other excuse to have a good time. If anyone is going to a KTV then I would love to join. Anyone interested please PM me.

If you RTFF, did you signup and pay your membership dues. This way you could send a PM directly to a senior member to do the hookup. Jackson is a great guy putting up with all of us mongers.. Do him a favor and pay the membership...then PM few of us. You may get to interesting responses. No, Tony, i am not on commission but i do think that Jackson is a helluva guy to put this board up.

TonyBuzz
11-25-07, 23:09
If you RTFF, did you signup and pay your membership dues. This way you could send a PM directly to a senior member to do the hookup. Jackson is a great guy putting up with all of us mongers.. Do him a favor and pay the membership...then PM few of us. You may get to interesting responses. No, Tony, i am not on commission but i do think that Jackson is a helluva guy to put this board up.Hi Bnlee2,

I subscribed to ISG at the end of October as a paid member. Having first browsed the website for a few hours I quickly came to the conclusion that ISG is a treasure chest and that the subscription price does IMHO not reflect its real value but is more of a simbolic price. I realize that my comment above here might find the disaproval of some of the ISG users (if I recall well from reading through ISG and doing some RTFF there was a time where this service was free). But honestly, in todays world you get what you pay for and in this case you get MUCH MORE than its price tag! (sorry Jackson, I know you don't like words written in capital letters but you might kindly let it slip through)

I have made the public anouncement because I do not want to come accross as a leach, thus my public anouncement, and PM all senior members (I did PM one and got a nice reply). This senior member was kind enough to reply and we shall have a couple of drinks and a meal.

As I am a newbee I don't want to bother the senior members of this board too much and be rather a good boy do my RTFF and where needed ask for help.

LuvAsianGirls
11-26-07, 00:37
Dear Sirs,

I am a newbie to this board and to China.

In March/April 2008 I have 6 weeks vacation and are planning a trip to 6 countries in SE Asia. Starting off in Malaysia, Singapore, Bataam Indo., China, Cambodia and Thailand. Thai. and Cambo I`ve been many times before, but the other countries are new to me.

Planning to stay about 12 days in China. Initially I was thinking about HK, CP and Sanya/Hainan. After reading reports about how dead Hainan is, I am thinking about spending most of the time in CP. Your reports from senior/experienced mongers have helped me make up my mind. Even though I don`t speak any chinese, I think I still can have a lot of fun, and look at that as a fun challenge.

Where to stay in CP? First I was looking at Mirathon, but after some of your reports I am not quite sure. Hue Mei sounds good, but I can not find their webpage in English.
Do you guys have any advice about hotels in CP with English webpage, links?Other than Mirathon. I would like to stay close to the action, like Mirathon is. And guys I will not ruin the BBS market pricewise. I will stick to 200 rmb short time and 500 rmb long time. Even though I will try for 150 ST.

Any good advice from you guys are appreciated. And I apologize for not writing perfect English, it ain`t my native language.

Sorry for the long report.

I love those beautiful chinese ladies.

Thanks fellas for your time.

LAG

LuvAsianGirls
11-26-07, 01:00
I have a good room with big bed and safe at the Hui Mei for only 260. The internet connection seems to be pretty fast.Dear Sir,

Do they have webpage in English?

Any other hotels in CP close to the "action" that are good and have internet connection? I know about Mirathon, but other than that. Planning to stay in CP 24-31 March 2008.

Sincerely,

LAG

One Wing Low
11-26-07, 03:01
there must be some deep-seated causes for your unprovoked and uncivilized hostility and rudeness.

got raped and beaten up regularly by your stepdap, did you? hehehe...

going to ktv for weeks to impress the xiaojies?

trying to impress this forum and prove your self-worth with your stupid posts?

i hope there are more to your loser's life than your stupid posts in isg and your bragging about china and the xiaojies...hehehe....



let me tell you something so you don't make a bigger fool out of yourself than you already have. the more you make these kinds of posts, the stupider you look.

you're real sensitive to criticism aren't you? i get the feeling you got picked on a lot when you were a kid. you're probably kinda scrawny and backed down from fights when you were small. i'm betting that english isn't your native language (because you can't even make complete sentences) and i bet the kids made fun of you in school. on the internet, you can talk all tough and no one's gonna come and beat you up, so you talk shit to make up for all those times you chickened out or took crap from the bigger kids.

i can tell you're a real insecure guy. you want approval from everybody so you make up shit, or you act like a tough guy (lmao), or you brag about hookers falling in love with you (rotflmao), or repeat the same thing over and over so the newbies think you're the bmoc. let me tell you right now, none of us more experienced guys are falling for it. i bet i'm right about everything.

Fast Eddie 48
11-26-07, 03:36
Dear Sirs,

I am a newbie to this board and to China.

In March/April 2008 I have 6 weeks vacation and are planning a trip to 6 countries in SE Asia. Starting off in Malaysia, Singapore, Bataam Indo., China, Cambodia and Thailand. Thai. and Cambo I`ve been many times before, but the other countries are new to me.

Planning to stay about 12 days in China. Initially I was thinking about HK, CP and Sanya/Hainan. After reading reports about how dead Hainan is, I am thinking about spending most of the time in CP. Your reports from senior/experienced mongers have helped me make up my mind. Even though I don`t speak any chinese, I think I still can have a lot of fun, and look at that as a fun challenge.

Where to stay in CP? First I was looking at Mirathon, but after some of your reports I am not quite sure. Hue Mei sounds good, but I can not find their webpage in English.
Do you guys have any advice about hotels in CP with English webpage, links?Other than Mirathon. I would like to stay close to the action, like Mirathon is. And guys I will not ruin the BBS market pricewise. I will stick to 200 rmb short time and 500 rmb long time. Even though I will try for 150 ST.

Any good advice from you guys are appreciated. And I apologize for not writing perfect English, it ain`t my native language.

Sorry for the long report.

I love those beautiful chinese ladies.

Thanks fellas for your time.

LAGLag,

If you are planning on mongering only cp, zhu hai and shenzhen will be good for 12 days you should start in shenzhen, Hanian is still ok also you can enjoy the beach and sun.

There are many hotel options in CP you should able to find a room with no problems same go for the other city in China but it is wise to book room in the other city in asia, try www.asiaroom.com

Fast Eddie 48

AsnDragon
11-26-07, 03:56
Try Hui Hua Hotel. It's a bit more pricey, but i feel that they are probably one of the best qualities in CP. However, the safe from what i recall, is NOT bolted down. But it feels like a 5 star hotel.

http://www.huihuahotel.com.cn/english/index.htm

Or Hotel Walter is a good try. It's very reasonable with their rates. Clean, more of a 4 star quality hotel.

http://www.cpht.cn/

or New Century Hotel. It's only a block or 2 away from the action, but honestly very close. They offer rooms with a computer PC inside which has internet access. Which is pretty convenient for people who don't have a laptop.

http://www.jieyunok.com/on/list.asp?ProdId=0003

I don't have new century's english website. But u can look it up on Google or baidu.com.

Hope you are prepared for the fun in CP. In my recommendation, I would only go to China CP and perhaps Thailand if you are strictly going for mongering purposes. Other than those places, i find other countries to be quite a bore.

On average (from my personal opinion) I find Chinese girls to be prettier than girls from other countries. For example, In Vietnam, I walked the streets of Ho Chi Minh and Hanoi, and i didn't find any of the girls to be particularly pretty.

But in CP, every other girl i see, i find them to be at least a 7 in my books. There's just so much more eye candy in China in general. I mean each province has their good quality of girls.

North East Girls from China, have really tall girls, with nice long legs and some I've encountered have a mixed feature of White and Asian mixed together.

Xian, has this exotic look I find appealing as well.

Inner Mongolians have really good body figures on average. They seem to be a bit more open in the erotic aspect as well.

Sichuan girls have great skin. And they tend to have bigger breasts as well. Although some may appear shorter on average.

Fujian girl's personality seem to be a bit more tender. Of course this is all generalization from a few encounters. But Fujian girls are a bit more relaxed and they way they talk are a bit sweeter than Northern Girls.

I prefer Hubei over Hunan girls. Just because i f ind hubei girls to be a bit more genuine and Hunan girls to be a bit more cunning. Out of all the times that i've been trick by girls, most of the time are from hunan girls.

Basically, all of my opinions stated above are all generalizations. Every province has their goods and bads. However, I'm just saying that China gives you a better array of girls in general. There's more eye candy here than other countries.

Although girls in Thailand can party hard, I still prefer the overall quality and feel of Chinese girls. So if you only have 6 weeks for mongering, i would suggest putting aside more time in China for mongering than spending your money on other countries that yield less positive results.

Just my two cents.


Dear Sir,

Do they have webpage in English?

Any other hotels in CP close to the "action" that are good and have internet connection? I know about Mirathon, but other than that. Planning to stay in CP 24-31 March 2008.

Sincerely,

LAGEDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

AsnDragon
11-26-07, 04:02
Dear Moody and OWL,

I wish that you two could make peace with each other. Man, if we were all in CP, I'd just take you two to a KTV to have a peace agreement meeting. We'd have a line of girls come out, have some fun, and forget about all this animosity against each other. Have a few beers and we could all end up to be friends again.

There's no need to trash each other. Because this bit of feud will never end. I think we should bring in some veterans in to just break up the fight and chill out.

What do you guys say?

Santa
11-26-07, 04:05
I think these cheaper hotels do not have webpages.

The Lucky is good and only costs 170-180 rmb, but the internet is slow and some rooms do not have internet.

Cheaper still is the HuaYu at the back of the Lucky. Only 130 rmb. The rooms are clean but small. Slow internet. It is also a good option.

I have never stayed at the nearby Lion Hotel but they have very very nice but small rooms. 230rmb I think.

If you are only here for a short visit and not concerned about saving a few bucks the Miraton and Hui Hua are best. Starting at 330rmb to 360rmb I think.

There are others, but these are all close together on the main strip.

Goreng Pisang
11-26-07, 06:11
I live in CP and come to SZ 3 days a week,

-CPEHi CPE. I presume you are a expatriate in CP. A lao wai (if you don't mind).

I am a Singaporean and a newbie to this. Been to CP 3X and yet don't know all those "treasures" you mentioned in your post. Argh. What a failure I've been. Haha.

Where is Yalan? What's all this "30 girls in a room" thingy? Are they BBS?

Will be in CP on the 10th Dec. Care to meet up for a drink or meal when I'm there? Really needed your expertise in this place!

Cheers,

Goreng Pisang (means deep fried bananna in Malay)

Dan Hawaii
11-26-07, 12:37
So this is what getting jumped on a public forum is like. I don't think I've seen a more one-sided affair, just give it up OWL, seriously. "Stupid xxx" is all you have left? Let me suggest "I know you are but what am I", or "I'm rubber you're glue...". Is that a fork sticking out of your back? Sure looks like it to me.

Ok, I can't stand idle and watch this guy get pummeled, so here goes. There is nothing wrong with showing your sensitive side by giggling with "hehehe" or "heeheehee" or "heiheihei". A man can giggle if he wants to. Can I get an Amen? In addition, .... nevermind, that's about all I can squeeze out. All the other OWLisms are, well, pretty idiotic.

Moody, PM me when you're in town. I would like to buy you a beer.
Hey Moody and Johnny, I'll buy you guys a beer when I come to town, hopefully in January.

It's fun reading you guys posts, the bashings are close..., NOT! I usually root for the underdog, but not this time. Go Moody!

Moody
11-26-07, 14:41
For 2007, I just noticed that the Dongguan thread is the 2nd most posted thread in the China board, and we're less than 100 posts behind those big bad Shanghai boys. Good job guys!!

I'll leave OWL alone for now. The guy's so clueless he doesn't even know when he's hopelessly outclassed in the flame game. Kinda reminds me of the time when Straycat was trying to convince everybody, including native speakers, that "meinu" meant hooker. Everybody knew he was clueless but him.

And as for the drink offers, I'll gladly take you guys up on those when I get in town, which should be a week or two away.

ManonsanBoy
11-26-07, 20:23
Dear Sirs,

In March/April 2008 I have 6 weeks vacation and are planning a trip to 6 countries in SE Asia. Starting off in Malaysia, Singapore, Bataam Indo., China, Cambodia and Thailand. Thai. and Cambo I`ve been many times before, but the other countries are new to me.

LAG

If mongering is all you are after, then CP (and SZ) are all you need but both places do not have a lot else and it gets a little repetitive after a few days. I think CP is like a big brothel.

Batam from the once I was there is not worth the trouble. Ditto Malaysia and Singapore where a significant proportion of WG are PRC anyway. But they are nice places to visit.

Why did you leave out Philippines?

LuvAsianGirls
11-26-07, 21:25
Thanks Fast Eddie 48, AsnDragon, Santa and ManonsanBoy.

Good information and advice from you all.

Yes this time it is only mongering. Next time around I might include some more culture into the trip alongside with some mongering. The Great Wall and so on.

ManonsanBoy:

Philippines is next on my "to do list". Next vacation.

After your advice, I might cut down on my time spent in Malaysia, Singapore , Bataam, and Hong Kong, and instead increase my time in CP China. I will definately think about it.

If I like the taste of China, I will return again and again.

Thanks AsnDragon for taking the time finding those hotel links. Much appreciated.

Sincerely,

LAG

Wizzy2007
11-26-07, 23:20
If mongering is all you are after, then CP (and SZ) are all you need but both places do not have a lot else and it gets a little repetitive after a few days. I think CP is like a big brothel.I would greatly appreciate precise details on how to get to CP from Shenzhen.

I get confused with CP and DG are they one city or a city within a province or
two separate cities?

Thanks again
Wizzy2007
Paris Frabce

AsnDragon
11-27-07, 04:02
Wizzy,

It's quite a simple direct trip from SZ to CP if you take the train. Take the GuangShen Railway, located in LoHu Station in SZ. You take the SZ to Changping station. And you are there. Just as easy as that.

If you want to take the taxi, it becomes quite complicated.

Two ways for Taxi:

1. You take a direct taxi from SZ to CP. Not many taxi drivers want to drive you that far since they pay for gas there, but it's hard to find clients that want to come back to SZ from CP.

as a result.... they take you to this area before the freeway entry to CP and they drop you off there, and a whole bunch of CP taxi's come rushing and bidding for your business to go to CP. These CP taxi's are taxi's that dropped someone off from CP to SZ and they want to drive a client back to CP to earn money, so they don't end up swallowing the whole cost of the gas price from SZ to CP without any customers. I would not recommend taking the taxi, unless you are a seasoned veteran of SZ and CP and know chinese fluently. Long Taxi rides for newbies could end up in something bad. Robbery or being dropped off somewhere you don't want to be at.

So just take the train, it's the fastest way to CP.

To answer your question. Dongguan is like a county/city almost. Dongguan has like 25 towns within it's county/city. Changping is only 1 town out of 25 of them. But just one town has a population of 750,000 to 1 million people. Changping is the only town that Guangzhen railway stops at in Dongguan. The next stop is Guangzhou.

Hope that this helps you out.


I would greatly appreciate precise details on how to get to CP from Shenzhen.

I get confused with CP and DG are they one city or a city within a province or
two separate cities?

Thanks again
Wizzy2007
Paris Frabce

AsnDragon
11-27-07, 04:26
This question goes to all the guys, especially veterans of ISG. Once in a while, there's always a girl that you find in one of those KTV's, Saunas, BBS etc, that you are completely attracted to. You basically fall head over heals for them. You start comparing your new pick at the BBS to them, you start wanting to pay for the whole day's fees so that they can be with you?

I mean what do you do, when you see a girl that has the sweetest smile, that perfect milky white skin, the firm size C breasts, waist that has no trace of fat, legs that are perfectly proportioned. And you just feel...wow, it just doesn't get better than this? I mean mongering is great, but sometimes i find myself buried in this trap. When i find that grade A quality girl, you just can't turn back sometimes. It's hard to give that up and have to face reality. But man, has anyone had this problem sometimes? When you constantly see and pick 6-8 qualities you aren't ever stuck in this state of fascination. But once in while, a 9 or 9.5 comes along and you just melt.

How do you snap out of it?

SE Asia Joe
11-27-07, 07:01
I am a Singaporean and a newbie to this.
Cheers,

Goreng Pisang (means deep fried bananna in Malay)

Just curious - you've posted 4 times and twice you stated - Goreng Pisang (means deep fried banana in Malay). How come? Plus I thought that Goreng Pisang means "TO FRY banana" whilst FRIED banana is "Pisang goreng" - the other way around.
SE Asia Joe

Fast Eddie 48
11-27-07, 07:16
I would greatly appreciate precise details on how to get to CP from Shenzhen.

I get confused with CP and DG are they one city or a city within a province or
two separate cities?

Thanks again
Wizzy2007
Paris FrabceWizzy ,

CP stand for changping is just a small town in Dongguan county in Guangzhou province and CP is a famous mongering town hope this help .

Fast eddie 48

OldAsiaHand
11-27-07, 10:49
Fast Eddie 48:

When did Guangzhou become a province?

OAH


Wizzy ,

CP stand for changping is just a small town in Dongguan county in Guangzhou province and CP is a famous mongering town hope this help .

Fast eddie 48

Dan Hawaii
11-27-07, 10:54
This question goes to all the guys, especially veterans of ISG. Once in a while, there's always a girl that you find in one of those KTV's, Saunas, BBS etc, that you are completely attracted to. You basically fall head over heals for them. You start comparing your new pick at the BBS to them, you start wanting to pay for the whole day's fees so that they can be with you?

I mean what do you do, when you see a girl that has the sweetest smile, that perfect milky white skin, the firm size C breasts, waist that has no trace of fat, legs that are perfectly proportioned. And you just feel...wow, it just doesn't get better than this? I mean mongering is great, but sometimes i find myself buried in this trap. When i find that grade A quality girl, you just can't turn back sometimes. It's hard to give that up and have to face reality. But man, has anyone had this problem sometimes? When you constantly see and pick 6-8 qualities you aren't ever stuck in this state of fascination. But once in while, a 9 or 9.5 comes along and you just melt.

How do you snap out of it?

Solution: You just fuck her until you get tired of her. Then later, if you want her again, you just call her and fuck her until you get tired of her. Over and over and over again, etc.. etc.. etc.. etc.. I heard you can negotiate 1 month rental service from the BBS and KTV girls, the later will hit your wallet harder.

In this case, just think with ONLY your small head. No harm no foul. Just have fun with her. If you start thinking with your big head, then you are in trouble, drop everything and GTFO :)

You ever heard of the "4 - F s"?
Find em
Feel em
Fuck em
Forget em

Word of wisdom when dealing with WGs.

OldAsiaHand
11-27-07, 11:10
AsnDragon:

First of all, let me say that I almost never repeat. That said, the situation you describe does happen to me from time to time. Something about the girl, the experience, etc. generates a certain kind of infactuation. I do go back for more until I eventually get bored and move on. What usually happens to me is that, the more times I do the girl, she starts asking for things; more money for this, shopping for that, gifts, etc. And, she starts to get jealous when you do other girls. It is like you are her property regardless of the fact that she is not exclusively yours. I had one girl in CP like this and every time I pulled into town, she would call me within 10-15 minutes of my arrival. She had spies everywhere.

OAH







This question goes to all the guys, especially veterans of ISG. Once in a while, there's always a girl that you find in one of those KTV's, Saunas, BBS etc, that you are completely attracted to. You basically fall head over heals for them. You start comparing your new pick at the BBS to them, you start wanting to pay for the whole day's fees so that they can be with you?

I mean what do you do, when you see a girl that has the sweetest smile, that perfect milky white skin, the firm size C breasts, waist that has no trace of fat, legs that are perfectly proportioned. And you just feel...wow, it just doesn't get better than this? I mean mongering is great, but sometimes i find myself buried in this trap. When i find that grade A quality girl, you just can't turn back sometimes. It's hard to give that up and have to face reality. But man, has anyone had this problem sometimes? When you constantly see and pick 6-8 qualities you aren't ever stuck in this state of fascination. But once in while, a 9 or 9.5 comes along and you just melt.

How do you snap out of it?

Dan Hawaii
11-27-07, 11:16
AsnDragon:

I had one girl in CP like this and every time I pulled into town, she would call me within 10-15 minutes of my arrival. She had spies everywhere.

OAH
Oh man, you caught me. I'm one of her spies, she pays me 10rmb everytime she does business with you. You think I'm in Hawaii, but hahahahaha:)

Goreng Pisang
11-27-07, 11:32
Fyi will be there 7-12 Dec again.Care to join me and my friend? We'll be there 11 - 14 Dec 07.

Goreng Pisang
11-27-07, 11:35
Please feel free to PM me when you get into town and I'll introduce you to the "Over the Hill" Gang.

-CPEReally appreciate it. Will surly PM you. J

Ust a stupid question. How do I PM as a regular member? Can I leave my China HP contact in the PM?

Cheers

Goreng Pisang

Fast Eddie 48
11-27-07, 17:07
Fast Eddie 48:

When did Guangzhou become a province?

OAHOAH,

Thank for the correction is Guangdong not guangzhou is the capitol city aka canton.

Fast eddie 48

Manfest
11-27-07, 18:54
This question goes to all the guys, especially veterans of ISG. Once in a while, there's always a girl that you find in one of those KTV's, Saunas, BBS etc, that you are completely attracted to. You basically fall head over heals for them. You start comparing your new pick at the BBS to them, you start wanting to pay for the whole day's fees so that they can be with you?
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I mean mongering is great, but sometimes i find myself buried in this trap. When i find that grade A quality girl, you just can't turn back sometimes. It's hard to give that up and have to face reality. But man, has anyone had this problem sometimes? When you constantly see and pick 6-8 qualities you aren't ever stuck in this state of fascination. But once in while, a 9 or 9.5 comes along and you just melt.

How do you snap out of it?

I had this problem with a KTV girl in Korea. For at least 3 months, I was totally infatuated with her, called/emailed/texted etc. In the end, the memory of her was better than the reality. When we met the second and third time, it just wasn't as good. Her attitude and look didn't change, just the magic of the first time wasn't there. I suspect she was more hurt than I was inconvenienced (generally true for these types of relationships, I think)

There really are only two possible paths, either you pursue it (but it will certainly end, whether good or bad and you'll deal with it, but such is life), or don't and enjoy the memories. IMHO. Cheers and enjoy.

AsnDragon
11-27-07, 21:49
Oah,

Man, that girl you just describe, seems like marriage. They want to own you, spy on you and ask for more stuff in return. Kind of defeats the whole purpose of being in CP.

In response to Dan Hawaii, wise set of advice. It's usually what I do. But there always comes one of those manipulative girls out there. I mean, they are the hard ones to deal with. They don't ask for anything in return, they are sweet talkers. Give you a sob story and you sort of just ignore it after a while. But when they are slowly persuasive, pretend not to be jealous of you doing other girls, patient and always give you freebies, despite sometimes she just asks you to treat her to dinner from time to time, you start letting down your guard. I mean this sorta happened to me and my friend.

My friend picked up a foot massage girl in SZ. She was the innocent type. In the beginning my friend asked to take her out, with the intent to do the deed. But when they went out, she refused to do it with him. This allowed her to hook on my friend. Later on, after a couple of weeks, my friend was able to nail her. When my friend offered her money or present in return, she was really upset. She told him, "I'mnot that type of girl. Even without money, I'd still want to make love to you because you are special"

With this type of comment, any guy will be sorta touched in some way or other. As time went on, she never demanded anything, but in return she actually started making him presents. She didn't have much money, but her actually making small gifts from scratch, touched my friend even more. This hooked him on and I had to spend 3 weeks convincing him that she was not the type to fall for. But he was that close to doing it. Good thing, a few weeks later, coincidentially, I saw her with a guy, seemed like a bf to me. But man, I got to tell you, Chian girls are pretty cunning. But some Chinese girls are just outright pros in reeling you in like a fish.

To Manfest:

Sorry to hear about your Korean experience. I've had some Korean gfs and I can say that although many are really bitchy when they feel like being a *****, they are one of the most loyal girls I've been with. So I can see how it was hard for you to resist. And of course she must have been hot too.

AsnDragon:

First of all, let me say that I almost never repeat. That said, the situation you describe does happen to me from time to time. Something about the girl, the experience, etc. generates a certain kind of infactuation. I do go back for more until I eventually get bored and move on. What usually happens to me is that, the more times I do the girl, she starts asking for things; more money for this, shopping for that, gifts, etc. And, she starts to get jealous when you do other girls. It is like you are her property regardless of the fact that she is not exclusively yours. I had one girl in CP like this and every time I pulled into town, she would call me within 10-15 minutes of my arrival. She had spies everywhere.

OAH

AsnDragon
11-27-07, 21:58
Guys, I cam across this situation in CP a couple of months ago. So I go into a BBS, I see this really cute girl. Didn't have much of a body, but her face was just so cute. I picked her off at the yalan area, the room next to the abandoned 7th floor KTV place.

In any case, so I was really feeling happy that I got a good find. Took her back to the hotel, talked to her for a bit. She starts talking to me about how she's going out tonight to shing di to party with her bf. I assumed that it was some other monger and such, but she told me that he was a guy back from her village. Apparently, her bf had no job, and so HE convinced her to work in a BBS to supposedly "raise money for their future". She was complaining how she gives most of her money back to her bf, and he has no job and gambles it all away.

When I heard this I felt sorry for her. But at the same time, I realize that she's an idiot to be with this kinda guy. What a shame, that such a cute girl is being used by her bf.

So apparently, this isn't just her, it's not just an isolated case. I appears that many girls in CP and other places in Dongguan and China, are doing this for the sake of their BF. I don't know whether I should admire them for their extreme faith in their relationship, or shake my head in disappointment for being such a idiot for falling into the guy's trap.

But regardless, it's none of my business because she was still cute. But it's strange to see how some of these girls are working in these BBS, not for sending money back to their village, but doing this for some guy who eats, drinks and gambles their money away.

So in conclusion, some girls are really stupid, and some girls in China are scary cunning and smart.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

AsnDragon
11-27-07, 22:33
Out of all the Dongguan towns that I've been to, I'm a bit disappointed with the KTVs in CP. I mean, i've been to about 4 of them so far. Hui Mei, Walter, Shing Di and Taoyuen.

Walter KTV's are just bad. The quality of girls are just not good at all.

Hui Mei is pretty decent, but still not that many selections, or perhaps the types i like were taken that night.

Shing Di has pretty good eye candy, but not all the girls go out with you. It just happens to be that the pretty ones don't go out and the not so pretty ones do go out with you.

Taoyuen (near Shing Di area) has one of the largest selections that I've ever seen. However, many of the girls are 6-7 quality. I mean it feels great when you first go in and you see them come line up for you i n rows upon rows, and you see at least 80 girls greet you when you walk through the hallways. It was a good experience because they had so many girls there. but the quality isn't really all that great.

I heard that other towns in Dongguan have better girls. Chang An and Houjie and even Prince hotel has prettier girls, although the sitting fee starts at 300RMB and up.

I mean CP still has the best BBS and other stuff, but in terms of their KTVs i find myself not so impressed. Did i just happen to go on off days or something?

Any KTV's that you guys feel has the best looking girls in CP?

P.S.- on one of the KTV trips, i even went there extra early like at 6 pm thinking i'd get the first pick over other people. Then when i got there too early, all the mommies told me that some of their girls are still getting made up and getting ready. Big mistake.....i hope my mistakes can be other's gains.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

SE Asia Joe
11-28-07, 04:11
This question goes to all the guys, especially veterans of ISG. Once in a while, there's always a girl that you find in one of those KTV's, Saunas, BBS etc, that you are completely attracted to. You basically fall head over heals for them. ...I mean what do you do, ...wow, it just doesn't get better than this? I mean mongering is great, but sometimes i find myself buried in this trap. When i find that grade A quality girl, you just can't turn back sometimes. It's hard to give that up and have to face reality. But man, has anyone had this problem sometimes? , a 9 or 9.5 comes along and you just melt.

How do you snap out of it?
How about you thinking about what I just went thru??!!
Perfect body and face (in my eyes!!), the best, most satifying sex every time, feelings of mutual love and tenderness, conversations, plans ... and then WHAM! She IS indeed PRC, indeed their values are NOT our values, their take on what is important in life is so far from what we could have imagined....
The biggest danger in all this is truly falling in love. Heck, I went thru it with a gal who was not a pro, had started slowly, my intention to be over within the usual 3 months time frame I usually set for ALL affairs (except getting married of course!!) - and it ended up 4 years later with all sort of drama on my part!
Naaah.... just 4F 'em, perhaps do the 3rd F several times and then ....Tally Ho!!!
SE Asia Joe

Santa
11-28-07, 05:27
Feed me, fuck me and then fuck off. :D

SE Asia Joe
11-28-07, 05:40
Feed me, fuck me and then fuck off. :D
Hmmm...

Find em
Feel em
Fuck em
Forget em

4F? I think we need to put a "P" somewhere here - like in "P"aying 'em?
After all, in CP, no need to worry about Finding them. Feeling them - well the mommies will definitely make you feel the goods, Fxxcking them is of course no problem (hey howzabout all the other services - just plain Fxxcking??? Hell, how boring!) - and then the most important - Paying 'em - the fine art of how much, how much xiaofei, how to make 'em feel special whilst paying them, how to make the payment firm.
Forgetting them - not a chance - not with our trusty cameras and Camera phones - ahhhhh nice memories to look at over and over again! and heck - if they're good, nuthin' wrong with repeats! After all, as per Santa - its always 3 times - Ho-Ho-Ho!
Se Asia Joe

Bad Boy Billy
11-28-07, 08:46
Hey guys - Billy here.

Never posted in here before - spent many a night in Beijing, Shanghai, Tianjin, Nanjing.

Thought I would drop in and see if any of you guys know a guy who uses the handle OldAsia*****?

I caught up with him a couple of times in Beijing - innocent little wall flower isn't he.

Seriously guys - planning first visit to CP in January.

How many of you guys are actually 'full time' on the ground here in CP.

So your advice guys - Hui Hua is better hotel than Miraton?

What time of the day do the shops get into swing?

Does it vary area to area?

OAH - I will be back in Beijing for 1 night Dec 20 - saw a cracking black girl from Africa in The Den last visit - hope she is there on Dec 20.

Keep safe guys - hopefully I will meet up with a few of you in Jan.

AsnDragon
11-28-07, 11:32
Asia Joe,

Wow values huh? I can only imagine the disparity between your value and hers. I suppose her revolve around the almighty Mao?

She must have been someone special for you to spend 3 months with. Hope she didn't break your pocket.


How about you thinking about what I just went thru??!!
Perfect body and face (in my eyes!!), the best, most satifying sex every time, feelings of mutual love and tenderness, conversations, plans ... and then WHAM! She IS indeed PRC, indeed their values are NOT our values, their take on what is important in life is so far from what we could have imagined.

The biggest danger in all this is truly falling in love. Heck, I went thru it with a gal who was not a pro, had started slowly, my intention to be over within the usual 3 months time frame I usually set for ALL affairs (except getting married of course!!) - and it ended up 4 years later with all sort of drama on my part!

Naaah.... just 4F 'em, perhaps do the 3rd F several times and then ....Tally Ho!!!
SE Asia Joe

Chillin
11-28-07, 15:36
Hi Bnlee2

I might be needing this company's services. Are they still in business? What is the charge from HKG to CP?

Chillin


chillin


Tried to PM you but i guess you have one of the freebies membership.

Here is the info

chillin

these guys have the car that goes through the toll booths. you do not need to get out of the car. the camera view you sitting in the backseat. very professional driver. never have been stop either. usual car is either a mbz or a high end car.

name of the company. Chun Wing International Ltd.
hong kong number 852-6555-8886
China 86-130-6845

Tell them i refer you. Mr. Wong. Tell them that Im the very tall ABC (American Born Chinese). They should know me well, I use them very regularly. I have refer them quite a few customers. btw. the driver is a good source for some great night time fun.

Horse38
11-28-07, 16:29
You are invited to meet up for a swashbuckling KTV party at one of the top spots in Dongguan/Shenzhen, the Goodview Hotel in Tangxia.

When: Dec 3, Monday

Here's the website: www.goodviewhotel.com/english/main.aspx. Meet outside the KTV entrance at 6:50pm.

RSVP by PMing your handphone number. After Dec 3rd, we'll party for 10 days in CP. All welcome!

Horse38

Old Mean Dog
11-28-07, 17:58
Gentilman Jim and I decided to do a body massage over at the Yalan Hotel this evening. We had been there many times for a footie, but said what the hell and went with a body. First off, the price is 138 rmb, you are taken to a normal hotel room and a girl comes in to massage you. Mine looked very petite and cute (from a distance), but after she told me to get naked and take a shower, I was a bit shocked to see that most all the damn teeth in her mouth were black!! Ahhh, what the hell, I didn't intend on kissing her.

She asked me if I wanted the "special" oily massage for an extra 100 rmb, I agreed and she ripped off my towel and told me to get bare ass on the bed, which I obeyed. She then took off her clothes (less her panties) and lo and behold, she had more hair on her breasts and under her armpits then I did!! I ain't making this shit up folks!! Ahh what the hell, Au-Naturale is ok sometimes.

The body massage was actually quite good, but when she flipped me over and decided to give me a titty massage, I figured it was time to press my luck as she was getting excited seeing my laowai flagpole and decided to slip off her panties.......holy shit, big mistake that was, this girl had a bush from hell and it popped out like a big ass afro that had been shoved into a tiny skullcap!!

After thinking she had me worked up, she decided to get real close and cuddley and tried to seduce me into fecking her for an extra 200 rmb, It took me about 1.3 seconds to push her face away due to her breath smelling like she just ate a bucket of assholes! I told her to DA FEI JI and hurry the hell up. Needless to say this was a very shitty experince. Gentilman Jim reported his was fine as hell and had a banging body....bah, the muder fucher.

Afterwards, we decided to head over to the Walter for a footie. While walking through the Rainbow parking lot, we were approached by a girl around 18, who said she was hungry and needed money.....boo hoo same shit different day, she was pretty well dressed and clean looking so, I offered her 10 rmb, if she would blow me.....she refused.

At the Walter, I got me a nice Guangdong Chunky Monkey; fat ass, fat boobs, a few too many trips to McDonalds, but had a very cute face. She was kind of all over me and I had to beat her off with a stick as Gentilman Jim was in the next chair, watching with sheer delight, as this girl was sexually harrassing me. Decided WTF and gave her my phone number and told her to call me, maybe it's time to pop a gal with a little junk in her trunk rather then these tiny, boney ass girls that yell "Tong" all the time, that I usually choose. Let's see how this one plays out.

After the footie, traversed back across the Rainbow parking lot where we were confronted by, yet another well dressed girl saying she was hungry and needed some money, same offer in play, same refusal. While waiting for Gentilman Jim to use the ATM, the boss of the 3 thought she would try to con me out of some money. This time I went off and pointed out where her two other padawans were positioned, told her to quit fecking hassling me. I noticed that the first girl was eyeballing me. After we got a taxi, we made the driver return to the parking lot where I confronted the boss and the first girl, told the boss I would give the girl; 100 rmb, food and a hot shower in return for her being my sex slave all night. The boss (maybe her auntie) looked shocked and the girl tried to hit me, before the taxi driver laughed and took off.

She's took feckin' proud to feck me for money and food (this is a bullshit scam for any freshmen coming to CP), but she didn't mind begging as a job? Gimme a break.....

CP Resident Horn Dog and Hero to the Fat & Ugly Girls,

-CPE

BTW: Anyone noticed how the amount of beggars has increased tenfold in CP since 2 months ago? Gotta love Bill Lee's girl! Reminds me of the joke: What do you call a dog with no legs? Does it really feckin' matter, he still ain't gonna come.

Old Mean Dog
11-28-07, 18:13
Hey guys - Billy here.

Never posted in here before - spent many a night in Beijing, Shanghai, Tianjin, Nanjing.

Thought I would drop in and see if any of you guys know a guy who uses the handle OldAsia*****?

I caught up with him a couple of times in Beijing - innocent little wall flower isn't he.

Seriously guys - planning first visit to CP in January.

How many of you guys are actually 'full time' on the ground here in CP.

So your advice guys - Hui Hua is better hotel than Miraton?

What time of the day do the shops get into swing?

Does it vary area to area?

OAH - I will be back in Beijing for 1 night Dec 20 - saw a cracking black girl from Africa in The Den last visit - hope she is there on Dec 20.

Keep safe guys - hopefully I will meet up with a few of you in Jan.

I'm known to be lurking around CP, at least 4 times a week as is Gentilman Jim. You might see a couple of other chaps shuffling around town, one is known to be Jolly Old St. Nick and the other is some joker with a really shitty ISG handle.

I know of this wallflower you speak of. In certain circles (would that be the inner or outer circle?) he is known as the King of BBS, the Grand Pooba of Pussy and the Red Boots Junkie.

Hui Hua is better than the Miraton.

Shops are usually fully stocked between 2-4, little later on the weekdays and a little earlier on the weekends. All shops basically the same time schedule, with the exception of the Night market which doesn't get going till after 10 pm.

See ya soon,

-CPE

Redvike
11-29-07, 00:47
What does CP stand for? I could not find it anywhere.

SE Asia Joe
11-29-07, 04:51
Asia Joe,

Wow values huh? I can only imagine the disparity between your value and hers. I suppose her revolve around the almighty Mao?

She must have been someone special for you to spend 3 months with. Hope she didn't break your pocket.
You misread - I intended maximum 3 monts but 4 years flashed by.
After 4 years I had thought that money was no longer in the equation. How wrong could I be??! To me it was small money but to her, it was compelling - so much so that all matters of the heart was set aside.
That is what I'm warning you about: To us western/westernized guys, romance and love are values we know and most times believe in - but most PRC gals (not all, but I would guess most!) just do not even understand what this nonsense is! Life, I guess, is just too hard for so many people here that love and romance is an indulgence they cannot afford
SE Asia Joe

Old Mean Dog
11-29-07, 06:11
That is what I'm warning you about: To us western/westernized guys, romance and love are values we know and most times believe in - but most PRC gals (not all, but I would guess most!) just do not even understand what this nonsense is! Life, I guess, is just too hard for so many people here that love and romance is an indulgence they cannot afford
SE Asia Joe

Amen Brother, this isn't the US of A and we ain't Kansas anymore Toto. Many in China have told me that true love is for the poor, because they have nothing else to offer.

-CPE

Goreng Pisang
11-29-07, 06:23
Just curious - you've posted 4 times and twice you stated - Goreng Pisang (means deep fried banana in Malay). How come? Plus I thought that Goreng Pisang means "TO FRY banana" whilst FRIED banana is "Pisang goreng" - the other way around.

SE Asia JoeHi SE Asia Joe,

I thought newbie is someone relatively new to this, which I certainly am one. (only 4-5 post) while I see some of the Not-So-Newbies posting into the tens and hundreds. So I labelled myselves NEWBIE. Sorry if that upsets you.

Are you an asian too? I am not an expert in Malay. But I grew up in Singapore & Malaysia. People here loves a little eatery called "Goreng Pisang". A little stall set-up by the dusty road side (of course dusty roads are not a frequent sight anymore in Singapore) with a Malay hawker deep frying banannas coated with flour.

So, Goreng means fry; fried or frying. I think malay does not have tenses like English. Pisang means Bananna.

Whether its frying bananna or fried bananna, I am not too sure. But it certainly is nice! Haha.

Goreng Pisang
11-29-07, 06:35
Bro...like the rest of us. Just fork out the subscription for this.

This board does not allow posting of email addresses and we should respect thatGot it. Will have it done.

Goreng Pisang
11-29-07, 06:41
Hey my original post has been unfairly censored! While I respect the board's rules I don't think its right to cut out all avenues of contact. Pro Goreng Pisang, please excuse if my previous post sounded curt. Its becoz its been censored and what was omitted was a link to ******** forum where you can find others who go to CP on a regular basis. It looks like if I include the link it will be censored yet again so perhaps you can google and find it. Should not be too difficult. When you get there you can look for me or other bros who wld be quite helpful as well.

I would still encourage signing up here as there are other value adds on this board that is not available on others. I hope moderator doesnt get too overzealous with this post as well!Hey my man. No worries. I'll PM you and CPExpat when I'm there. Will be signing up too. (gotta learn how the hell to sign up and PM. Haha. This stuff is a little hard. New tricks for old dog is not easy.)

Old Mean Dog
11-29-07, 07:55
What does CP stand for? I could not find it anywhere.

CP=Couch Potato i.e. Me
CP=Cream Puff i.e. Bill Lee
CP=Crusty Penis i.e. Santa

I really have no idea what CP stands for and no idea why it's in my handle!

-CPE

SE Asia Joe
11-29-07, 09:05
Hi SE Asia Joe,

I thought newbie is someone relatively new to this, which I certainly am one. (only 4-5 post) while I see some of the Not-So-Newbies posting into the tens and hundreds. So I labelled myselves NEWBIE. Sorry if that upsets you.

Are you an asian too? I am not an expert in Malay. But I grew up in Singapore & Malaysia. People here loves a little eatery called "Goreng Pisang". A little stall set-up by the dusty road side (of course dusty roads are not a frequent sight anymore in Singapore) with a Malay hawker deep frying banannas coated with flour.

So, Goreng means fry; fried or frying. I think malay does not have tenses like English. Pisang means Bananna.

Whether its frying bananna or fried bananna, I am not too sure. But it certainly is nice! Haha.
No - it don't upset me in the least bit - in fact I never mentioned anything about newbies etc.
On the Goreng Pisang and Pisang Goreng -I believe that when you write "Pisang Goreng" it means fried banana (the noun is Pisang and the adjective is Goreng) whilst if you write Goreng Pisang - the goreng becomes a verb - thus meaning TO FRY a banana.
But who the Fxxk cares - and I was just curious why you kept on writing (means deep fried banana in Malay). - as if you're emphasizing somehting... which I certainly could not understand what11
Paix and out
SE Asia Joe

SE Asia Joe
11-29-07, 10:11
Gentilman Jim and I decided to do a body massage over at the Yalan Hotel this evening.
She asked me if I wanted the "special" oily massage for an extra 100 rmb, I agreed and she ripped off my towel and told me to get bare ass on the bed, which I obeyed. She then took off her clothes (less her panties) and lo and behold, she had more hair on her breasts and under her armpits then I did!! I ain't making this shit up folks!!
.... she was getting excited seeing my laowai flagpole and decided to slip off her panties.......holy shit, big mistake that was, this girl had a bush from hell and it popped out like a big ass afro that had been shoved into a tiny skullcap!!.....
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And this CPE - your most recent post on the China Women - opinions and advise thread:

This coming from the Grandpa Simpson look-a-like. I'm known as Da Xingxing around these parts, the great albino gorilla.
-CPE
.
Hi CPE - I'd say that you've met your ideal and dream mate there Da Xingxing!!
SE Asia Joe

Old Mean Dog
11-29-07, 11:00
Hi CPE - I'd say that you've met your ideal and dream mate there Da Xingxing!!
SE Asia Joe

Just because I am known as a big gorilla, does not mean I want to mate with one ;)

-CPE
aka Da Xingxing

OldAsiaHand
11-29-07, 11:31
Gentlemen,

After years of false promises, Bad Boy Billy is finally on his way. A diplomat from the Mongolian Embassy in Beijing better known as Maggies and a frequent patron of Russian movie stars, BBB is a legend in his own mind (time). Monger extraordinaire (Pig), Billy is known to bag 2 Russians, 3 Mongolians and 1 Chinese pro in a single day at 800 RMB a pop. With that kind of money to throw around at a 4-1 ratio, expect him to empty the BBS shops of all the top quality for his own personal pleasure. A true gentleman, he will still leave the ugly ones for the rest of us.

All kidding aside, please welcome BBB to join whatever circle gets the most pussy. We should roll out the red carpet when he arrives and pull it out from under him so we get to the shops before he cleans them out.

Just my POV.

OAH

P.S. BBB, make sure you come early in January. CP starts to slow down the week before CNY.

Chillin
11-29-07, 15:23
Hi all,

Headin out to HK soon. Is the Skylimo service a safe and reliable service ? When I was in CP last time, I was in a "diplomat " type of car service. I won't be with a big entourage this time so I think i'll try skylimo instead.

I've heard stories, that if you take the bus they take pictures/video of all the passengers so they will have evidence of who's onboard in case of a robbery.

Santa
11-29-07, 17:26
Opposite the Miraton, above the new sauna and below the American Bar is a budget ktv. The Music Dragon KTV. The rooms are clean and modern. You bring your own girls and buy your snacks and drinks in a shop inside the ktv.

They do not provide girls and there is no room service. You choose your music from a computer in your room.

Of course, the attraction is the price. Prime time is between 6pm and 1am. The price then for a 6 person room is only 52rmb per hour. Beers are 10 to 12 rmb. They have small kegs of draft beer for only 80rmb. A fruit platter is only 30rmb. It is full on weekend evenings and so you need to reserve a room.

The main entrance is above the entrance to the Minrun Market, next to the dumpling restaurant. You can also enter at the steps next to the new sauna.

Shrimp Fishing. In a small road, opposite Mito's Cafe at the far end of the square, is a shop which has a pool full of shrimp. You rent a small fishing rod for one hour for 40rmb, catch your own shrimp, and then they cook them for you. Some guys take their dates there. Next door is a large snooker and pool hall. If you are alone you can play snooker with one the girls working there. No, they are not pretty girls but they can use a cue stick. I think it costs 20 rmb. 5rmb tip to the girl.

Other than fucking, there is not much else to do around here.

Fast Eddie 48
11-29-07, 17:36
Gentlemen,

After years of false promises, Bad Boy Billy is finally on his way. A diplomat from the Mongolian Embassy in Beijing better known as Maggies and a frequent patron of Russian movie stars, BBB is a legend in his own mind (time). Monger extraordinaire (Pig), Billy is known to bag 2 Russians, 3 Mongolians and 1 Chinese pro in a single day at 800 RMB a pop. With that kind of money to throw around at a 4-1 ratio, expect him to empty the BBS shops of all the top quality for his own personal pleasure. A true gentleman, he will still leave the ugly ones for the rest of us.

All kidding aside, please welcome BBB to join whatever circle gets the most pussy. We should roll out the red carpet when he arrives and pull it out from under him so we get to the shops before he cleans them out.OAH,

The Bad boy billy is already in town Bill Lee that is now the original Bad boy billy is coming to town are you sure CP can handle them both, I will see you guys in Jan 2008.

Fast eddie 48

Old Mean Dog
11-29-07, 17:36
Shrimp Fishing. In a small road, opposite Mito's Cafe at the far end of the square, is a shop which the has a pool full of shrimp. You rent a fishing rod for one hour for 40rmb, catch your own shrimp, and then they cook them for you. Some guys bring their dates there.

Ooops, now the real secret of CP is out of the bag! I bet Bubba Gump has already booked his ticket over.

Santa, is this the shop that has that damn cat in the cage, that always looks dead? Freakin' thing is always sleeping on it's back with it's legs straight up.

-CPE

Chillin
11-29-07, 19:50
Hi all,

I need a little help. I put in CHang Ping map in the thread search but no map popped up. I want locate some of the landmarks. I think I saw a map once but now I can't find it. Can someone kindly send me a link to that map.

Gonna be in next week. Maybe I might run into one of you guys.. The shrimp fishing sounds like fun!

Wadman
11-30-07, 00:50
The shrimp fishing sounds like fun!


Only bored, impotent guys fish for shrimps in a pond! What's next? Fishing for crabs in a pussy?

Apac Man
11-30-07, 01:21
Hi all,

Headin out to HK soon. Is the Skylimo service a safe and reliable service ? When I was in CP last time, I was in a "diplomat " type of car service. I won't be with a big entourage this time so I think i'll try skylimo instead.

I've heard stories, that if you take the bus they take pictures/video of all the passengers so they will have evidence of who's onboard in case of a robbery.Hi Chillin,

I have taken buses from within Shenzhen to places in southern China in the past few years and it seems to be a common practice to have your video be taken as you board the bus. I do not speak Chinese and people that I have traveled with have given me different explanation as to why this is done. The bottom line is that in case they need to know who was in a bus, they have the video. There is no difference between this and thousands of surveillance cameras (CCTV) that are everywhere in China.

A year or so ago my coworker's pocket was picked at a railroad station and after reporting it to police, they took us to the security room in the station to look at the surveillance videos and they matched our time of entrance from the taxi receipt and they had the video from the time the taxi entered the station drop-off point all the way to the time we entered the waiting area and he was going through his pockets pockets in search of the stolen stuff. So don't worry, be happy :)

Have a safe trip,

W

SE Asia Joe
11-30-07, 05:16
Opposite the Miraton, above the new sauna and below the American Bar is a budget ktv. The Music Dragon KTV. The rooms are clean and modern. You bring your own girls and buy your snacks and drinks in a shop inside the ktv.

They do not provide girls and there is no room service. You choose your music from a computer in your room.

Of course, the attraction is the price. Prime time is between 6pm and 1am. The price then for a 6 person room is only 52rmb per hour. Beers are 10 to 12 rmb. They have small kegs of draft beer for only 80rmb. A fruit platter is only 30rmb. It is full on weekend evenings and so you need to reserve a room.

The main entrance is above the entrance to the Minrun Market, next to the dumpling restaurant. You can also enter at the steps next to the new sauna.

Shrimp Fishing. In a small road, opposite Mito's Cafe at the far end of the square, is a shop which has a pool full of shrimp. You rent a small fishing rod for one hour for 40rmb, catch your own shrimp, and then they cook them for you. Some guys take their dates there. Next door is a large snooker and pool hall. If you are alone you can play snooker with one the girls working there. No, they are not pretty girls but they can use a cue stick. I think it costs 20 rmb. 5rmb tip to the girl.

Other than fucking, there is not much else to do around here.
Jeez Santa - looks as if you've been going ON DATES instead of mongering. What - you're going around serenading the lady at the K-OK, catching the shrimp whilst holding hands and then having a romantic dinner. You then cap it all off by then impressing her with your superior snooker potting abilities? When do you spirit her back to your den of inequity?? Seems like a lot of work!!
SE Asia Joe

Santa
11-30-07, 05:33
Well, shrimp do smell like pussy, so I understand why some guys like this "sport". They said the idea came from Taiwan. It must be really fucking boring in Taiwan!

Hey, let's all get together with some girls for a shrimp fishing competition.

When Bad Boy Billy and OAH show up in town we can invite them there for some really exciting action.

Bnlee2
11-30-07, 06:08
Well, shrimp do smell like pussy, so I understand why some guys like this "sport". They said the idea came from Taiwan. It must be really fucking boring in Taiwan!

Hey, let's all get together with some girls for a shrimp fishing competition.

When Bad Boy Billy and OAH show up in town we can invite them there for some really exciting action.

I actually tried it in taiwan about ten years ago and you are correct.. it is friggin boring and senseless. I do not know why i actually paid and tried it, when i should've had some pussy in the tea house.

Old Mean Dog
11-30-07, 06:54
I actually tried it in taiwan about ten years ago and you are correct.. it is friggin boring and senseless. I do not know why i actually paid and tried it, when i should've had some pussy in the tea house.

And here I thought all this time, those little shrimps were actually the bait to catch something bigger.

Just goes to show you there are many other things to do in CP besides chase pussy.

Maybe we can organize an annual ISG shrimp fishin' tournament!

-CPE

Fast Eddie 48
11-30-07, 07:50
And here I thought all this time, those little shrimps were actually the bait to catch something bigger.

Just goes to show you there are many other things to do in CP besides chase pussy.

Maybe we can organize an annual ISG shrimp fishin' tournament!

-CPECPE,

I don't go all the china to fish for no little shrimps I prefer Abalone diving myself and Thailand is great for that and the Philippine island is second .

Fast eddie 48

SE Asia Joe
11-30-07, 09:19
And here I thought all this time, those little shrimps were actually the bait to catch something bigger.

Just goes to show you there are many other things to do in CP besides chase pussy.

Maybe we can organize an annual ISG shrimp fishin' tournament!

-CPE
Huh??? I though that in CP WE are the shrimp and THEY chase after US....All over the place! After all, we all are such good looking hunks... with them large humps in our back pockets.
SE Asia Joe

Old Mean Dog
11-30-07, 15:44
CPE,

I don't go all the china to fish for no little shrimps I prefer Abalone diving myself and Thailand is great for that and the Philippine island is second .

Fast eddie 48

It was a joke ;)

The last thing I want to do in CP, is fish for brine shrimp! I prefer hunting beaver instead.

-CPE

Old Mean Dog
11-30-07, 15:55
Huh??? I though that in CP WE are the shrimp and THEY chase after US....All over the place! After all, we all are such good looking hunks... with them large humps in our back pockets.
SE Asia Joe

Lol, now that I re-read my post, it does strike me funny. I think maybe they are the bait and are trying to catch a big fish! In Vegas they are called Whales, here they are called Hong Kong Laobans.

-CPE

Jim Traveller
11-30-07, 20:33
Hey folks:

Returning to CP this Saturday after a long time away. Can't wait get in on the party. I will stay in CP for most of December.

I speak the language and have paid my dues at all the local KTVs. If any brother wish to hook up for KTV, footie, food, please PM me with your contact info.

Jim T.

Csun213
12-01-07, 02:28
Actually Shrimp fishing and regular fishing in a pond was started in Taiwan. It wasn't as fun as it sounds however most of the Taiwan guys do it when they are talking business. Just a bunch guys sitting around with a small pole talking business while waiting for a shrimp or fish to bit. Most of the guys just release the catch back. Done it a few times with some business guys. They do the samething in KTV but with the music turned down low and the girls pouring drinks.

AsnDragon
12-01-07, 20:18
Guys. Let's stop it with all this Shrimp and Fish talk. It reminds me of this one time I got this BBS girl behind Hui Mei, and her pussy was the fishiest/seafood smelling odor I've ever witnessed. It nearly made me want to throw up on the spot. I had to breathe through my mouth, and finish it off. And take off the condom and take a shower right away.

They should outlaw if they could. All this fish and Shrimp talk. Please. Let's end it here.

I change my mind, I don't think I want to try that aqua sushi place across from Lucky hotel anymore.


Actually Shrimp fishing and regular fishing in a pond was started in Taiwan. It wasn't as fun as it sounds however most of the Taiwan guys do it when they are talking business. Just a bunch guys sitting around with a small pole talking business while waiting for a shrimp or fish to bit. Most of the guys just release the catch back. Done it a few times with some business guys. They do the samething in KTV but with the music turned down low and the girls pouring drinks.

Loso69
12-02-07, 06:35
After almost 2 weeks in Jakarta and over a month in the PI, I should be back in CP late tonight. If anyone wants to meet up, let me know.

Loso

Op888
12-02-07, 13:46
I would just like to ask if anybody has ever tried the services from ZMT (Zhang Mu Tou). I was passing around the dvd stores this week and found plenty of beautiful ladies in the shops beside the dvds with semi-violet lights.

Anybody ever tried the girls there and how much they cost?

I am planning to go back next month and try out the girls there and plan to Garden Hotel in ZMT as it is quite cheap. Anybody been to this hotel before and availed of their service as well?

Highly appreciate any help and advice. Happy mongering to all. Thanks

Fast Eddie 48
12-02-07, 23:15
I would just like to ask if anybody has ever tried the services from ZMT (Zhang Mu Tou). I was passing around the dvd stores this week and found plenty of beautiful ladies in the shops beside the dvds with semi-violet lights.

Anybody ever tried the girls there and how much they cost?

I am planning to go back next month and try out the girls there and plan to Garden Hotel in ZMT as it is quite cheap. Anybody been to this hotel before and availed of their service as well?

Highly appreciate any help and advice. Happy mongering to all. Thanks Op888,

Why don't you give them a try you are right there instead of asking people to do the work for you even if someone like it that you might not everyone have different taste and standard.

Fast eddie 48

Superforce99
12-03-07, 10:39
Good to see a few of my old ISG buddies in CP during the weekend and had a fun time, as usual. CP still has the best BBS girls in South China in my opinion, about an 70% rate of "good" to "pretty good" which I can't say is true for anywhere else I've been to.

Nothing much to add about CP except some random thoughts:

-all the mini-van drivers now accept 10 RMB. They used to be firm on 15 but now will all take 10 RMB with 5 seconds of bargaining (ie. "take me to Yalan/train station/etc. for 10 RMB....no? bye bye....OK, you'll do it? good") 100% success and I know a metered taxi is 8-9 RMB, but it's hard to find taxis sometimes and never a problem to find a waiting mini-van

-the Lucky Hotel rooms is about 80% the quality of the Miraton's rooms at about 50% of the price. I was impressed

-Night Market has gone down in terms of quantity and quality, even on Saturday night

-the bus ride from CP to Zhuhai sucks, took 3.5 hours/70 RMB with little/no traffic, next time will definately take a private car. Took a private car from Zhuhai to CP and it was exactly 2 hours/350 RMB and I didn't push it on the price though my feeling was I could have it for 300-320 RMB. Paying that price for one person is a bit dubious, but share the ride with one other person and it's totally worth it.


J


PS. After one particularly good romp with a BBS gal, she giggled and hugged me while joyfully squeeling "Hee hee, that was so fun! Thanks!" A first for me to hear that and another reason to love CP...and she was so proud to show me her "genuine, expensive 65 RMB Nike tube socks", which were obviously fake and bought for her by some Malaysian john, ha ha...

Chillin
12-03-07, 23:20
After countless hours of research.. I finally found the thread from laowai123.

It looks on the money!!! Thanks for puttting up the info Laowai!


Hi all,

I need a little help. I put in CHang Ping map in the thread search but no map popped up. I want locate some of the landmarks. I think I saw a map once but now I can't find it. Can someone kindly send me a link to that map.

Gonna be in next week. Maybe I might run into one of you guys.. The shrimp fishing sounds like fun!

DayNight
12-04-07, 04:12
I would just like to ask if anybody has ever tried the services from ZMT (Zhang Mu Tou). I was passing around the dvd stores this week and found plenty of beautiful ladies in the shops beside the dvds with semi-violet lights.

Anybody ever tried the girls there and how much they cost?

I am planning to go back next month and try out the girls there and plan to Garden Hotel in ZMT as it is quite cheap. Anybody been to this hotel before and availed of their service as well?

Highly appreciate any help and advice. Happy mongering to all. Thanks

I was there a few times and tried some BBS out while waiting for a train. In-house rate is 130 or 150. The private appartment nearby was quite bad, as so often wiwth those places. Girl was quite nice though. There are several BBS places near the train station.

Go out McDonalds, and turn right. Keep turning right. You will see a few places.

Apac Man
12-04-07, 07:44
Sorry AsnDragon! Since you brought up this story, I have to ask this question that had been on my mind for a loooooong time. Most of my mongering had been in high end saunas and massage places and I've never had a smelly one. I assume clean fresh smelling genital is a job requirement for those places. Now the question is, what if you do get a smelly one? Can you send her back?

I know! Very sick and demented question but inquiry mind wants to know! :)

W


...It reminds me of this one time I got this BBS girl behind Hui Mei, and her pussy was the fishiest/seafood smelling odor I've ever witnessed...

SE Asia Joe
12-05-07, 04:46
Guys:
You've really done it this time!
You've totally screwed it all up for me now!
Had just come back from one of my usual overnight trips to Phuket which of course involves visiting Fantasia; well this time, instead of a row of beauties, all I saw were a bunch of over the hill crows with plastered on white masks! I mean - really!!! So much so that my usual mommy even offered me a couple younger uns' from the show (at THB2,100) instead of having to chose from the pig pen - but to me they were still dogs compared to what I've become accustomed to!
Nedless to say I did not partake and as a result am now totally "frustrated and in need"
SE Asia Joe

Cowa Banga
12-05-07, 05:06
Loso,

Has your dick fallen off, yet?

The blue board has become a joke. Too many Pattaya sheeps on that board. Boring. Ba ba ba is all you hear on that board. If I read another report on Pattaya, I'm going to puke.

Thank God for this board.

By the way, when are you heading back to that socialist, overtaxed country of yours?

Loso69
12-05-07, 09:48
Cowa Banga,

Thanks for your concern, but my dick is still securely attached. :)

I haven't followed the news the last couple of months. Does my overtaxed country still exist? Or am I now a proud citizen of tax haven Flanders? :)

I'm running out of disk space. I'm running low on condoms. I dropped my iPod & broke it, so I have no music in my room. And the dreaded holiday period is coming up. So I'll be flying back home on Dec 12.

When everybody's partying, I'll be writing reports about my previous mongering trips. When everybody goes back to work, I'll be back on the road. I'm not working before April 1. :)

Loso

AsnDragon
12-05-07, 09:53
Wanderex,

Nope. You cannot take them back for a refund. I think the rule is (unwritten) once you stick your friend down there inside, there's no refund. Besides, every establishment has them, you've just been lucky. I've had this happen to me at Saunas, KTV girls-- where's their pussy smelled so bad, that when they got up from the vinyl KTV seat to go to the bathroom, their pussy smell penetrated through their panties, through their dress, onto the vinyl seats that resonated a pungent smell of fish, salt fish, anchovies left out of refrigeration for 10 days.

It happens to everyone at least once. There was once at an airport, where a women in her 30's walked by me and I could even smell her fishy smell at a distance of 5 feet away. If I could invent a odor neutralizer down there, I'd be filthy rich, cause it happens once in a while. Consider yourself lucky. For now.


Sorry AsnDragon! Since you brought up this story, I have to ask this question that had been on my mind for a loooooong time. Most of my mongering had been in high end saunas and massage places and I've never had a smelly one. I assume clean fresh smelling genital is a job requirement for those places. Now the question is, what if you do get a smelly one? Can you send her back?

I know! Very sick and demented question but inquiry mind wants to know! :)

W

Manfest
12-05-07, 20:41
Guys:
You've really done it this time!
You've totally screwed it all up for me now!
Had just come back from one of my usual overnight trips to Phuket which of course involves visiting Fantasia; well this time, instead of a row of beauties, all I saw were a bunch of over the hill crows with plastered on white masks! I mean - really!!! So much so that my usual mommy even offered me a couple younger uns' from the show (at THB2,100) instead of having to chose from the pig pen - but to me they were still dogs compared to what I've become accustomed to!
Nedless to say I did not partake and as a result am now totally "frustrated and in need"
SE Asia Joe

For some of us in the US or Europe, it is even worse! Also, I don't enjoy paying hotties in Korea the equivalent of RMB 1500-3000 anymore. The same or better quality for much less can be had all over China. Some find it strange that I take on assignments to travel to China all the time, but wait till they get a taste some day... you can never go back. Cheers.

Rontbo
12-05-07, 22:45
Hey guys,

I'm new to this forum but have been mongering for the past few years. I've mongered in the US, Japan, Vietnam, Thailand and most recently in ZMT.

_____________________________________

Here's some info for people interested in ZMT:

I went to ZMT with a group of friends back in August and we stayed at the Garden Hotel for about 3 nights.

Because we had a hookup, we got some comps and first dibs at the selection of KTV girls. Girls there range from 6 to high 8's and all seem to be under 25 years old. There were at least 150+ girls to choose from nightly.

Pricing for the KTV girls is 2/4/8. The KTV room fee, for around 8 people works out to roughly $150 US(not sure if this was the discounted rate) for the evening. But it was extra with all the food, drinks and tips for everyone.

The rooms at the Garden were very nice for only $50 USD a night, with a large, comfy bed and controls to all the lights at the bedstand, and a private sauna in the room.
__________________________________________

I've been reading all of the posts in this thread over the past few days(boy, what a wealth of information!) and have decided to plan a trip to CP with some of my friends.

I was wondering if anyone could help out some relative newbies to the CP scene?

A little background info about me and my friends. We're all American Born Asians in our early to mid 30's. While we've been to ZMT before, we don't speak the language, so we would be ever so grateful if someone here could help guide us on our first day in CP.

I've done the research and downloaded the google earth location map, however, I thought it would be better to learn first hand from seasoned pro's like a lot of you guys here.

We will be coming from LOS and arriving in CP on the evening of Dec 25th and plan to go back to HK on the afternoon of the 28th.

Please let me know if you can help! Thanks!

-Rontbo

P.S. I just subscribed to the PM system, so hopefully it will be activated soon. Hopefully, I won't miss any PMs. Thanks again!

Rontbo
12-05-07, 22:50
I would just like to ask if anybody has ever tried the services from ZMT (Zhang Mu Tou).

Anybody ever tried the girls there and how much they cost?

I am planning to go back next month and try out the girls there and plan to Garden Hotel in ZMT as it is quite cheap. Anybody been to this hotel before and availed of their service as well?Hey guys,

I'm new to this forum but have been mongering for the past few years. I've mongered in the US, Japan, Vietnam, Thailand and most recently in ZMT.

_____________________________________

Here's some info for people interested in ZMT:

I went to ZMT with a group of friends back in August and we stayed at the Garden Hotel for about 3 nights.

Because we had a hookup, we got some comps and first dibs at the selection of KTV girls. Girls there range from 6 to high 8's and all seem to be under 25 years old. There were at least 150+ girls to choose from nightly.

Pricing for the KTV girls is 2/4/8. The KTV room fee, for around 8 people works out to roughly $150 US(not sure if this was the discounted rate) for the evening. But it was extra with all the food, drinks and tips for everyone.

The rooms at the Garden were very nice for only $50 USD a night, with a large, comfy bed and controls to all the lights at the bedstand, and a private sauna in the room.
__________________________________________

I've been reading all of the posts in this thread over the past few days(boy, what a wealth of information!) and have decided to plan a trip to CP with some of my friends.

I was wondering if anyone could help out some relative newbies to the CP scene?

A little background info about me and my friends. We're all American Born Asians in our early to mid 30's. While we've been to ZMT before, we don't speak the language, so we would be ever so grateful if someone here could help guide us on our first day in CP.

I've done the research and downloaded the google earth location map, however, I thought it would be better to learn first hand from seasoned pro's like a lot of you guys here.

We will be coming from LOS and arriving in CP on the evening of Dec 25th and plan to go back to HK on the afternoon of the 28th.

Please let me know if you can help! Thanks!

-Rontbo

P.S. I just subscribed to the PM system, so hopefully it will be activated soon. Hopefully, I won't miss any PMs. Thanks again!

Chillin
12-06-07, 04:07
I was looking forward to going to CP.. Now I think I'm being rerouted to Houjie.

Wish me luck

Fast Eddie 48
12-06-07, 07:51
Wanderex,

Nope. You cannot take them back for a refund. I think the rule is (unwritten) once you stick your friend down there inside, there's no refund. Besides, every establishment has them, you've just been lucky. I've had this happen to me at Saunas, KTV girls-- where's their pussy smelled so bad, that when they got up from the vinyl KTV seat to go to the bathroom, their pussy smell penetrated through their panties, through their dress, onto the vinyl seats that resonated a pungent smell of fish, salt fish, anchovies left out of refrigeration for 10 days.

It happens to everyone at least once. There was once at an airport, where a women in her 30's walked by me and I could even smell her fishy smell at a distance of 5 feet away. If I could invent a odor neutralizer down there, I'd be filthy rich, cause it happens once in a while. Consider yourself lucky. For now.Asn dragon,

I been mongering for a long time all over the world have smelly pussy in Changping about 4 time and once in the US , I think this is cause by bad hygiene and diet.

Fast eddie 48

Loso69
12-06-07, 08:28
When I visited the Swan Lake Hotel yesterday with a fellow monger, there were no girls to be found on the 4th floor. The place looked exactly like it did 6 weeks ago, when the corridors & rooms were filled with pushy mommies and cute girls. Could I be on the wrong floor? We checked out all the other floors. No girls!

When we walked along the alley opposite the hotel, we were suddenly approached by a runner. She took us into a room with about 30 girls. Plenty of cuties. Zhang Yen was supposed to be a ST, but ended up spending the night. A real sweetie!

On our way out, we were approached by more runners, so there are definitely more BBS in the area.

BTW, sorry if this has already been reported. I don't have time to read all the posts.

Loso

AsnDragon
12-06-07, 12:16
To all guys,

Be careful with the Swan Lake girls. From my personal experience. there are some pretty cute girls there. However, from my experience, many of the girls there are just not as service oriented or friendly as other places. I got ripped off two times.

Once was with a girl that was so tired from taking "K" the night before and partying all night at Shing Di, that after she took a shower, and i took mine, when i came out, she was asleep. I woke her up and noticed she drooled on my pillow. This totally turned me off and i kicked her outta my room.

The second time wasn't as bad, but the attitude was not very good. After the deed, everything seemed fine. But she then proceeded to asking for a 50 dollar tip. When i refused she started whining and pouting. I ignored her and told her i'm not paying her 50 bucks. After like 15 minutes, i told her i'd give her 10 dollars for a taxi ride home...she snatched the bill out of my hands like lightening and stormed out of the room with a pissed off look. Perhaps coincidence, but the mommies there were pushy and the girls just seemed more grouchy in general.

Also another heads up is, a mommy that works near lucky hotel. She's got curly hair, wears glasses and looks like she's in her mid to late 40's, has a mole on the upper left side of her cheek i believe. That girls is just another mommy that spells trouble. I forgot her name, but she's so damn rude and mean to her girls. She operates a "mommy car" as well. But she yells the hell out of her girls. Two girls i got from her were all so scared of her. They said she was the fiercest mommy they worked for. 3 days later, those girls left to another place to work. I try to boycott her since she's just so rude and always yelling and calling the girls names. There's this one time she was so pissed at a girl, yelled at her in front of me so wildly, her spit was flying all over the place.

Avoid when and if you can.


When I visited the Swan Lake Hotel yesterday with a fellow monger, there were no girls to be found on the 4th floor. The place looked exactly like it did 6 weeks ago, when the corridors & rooms were filled with pushy mommies and cute girls. Could I be on the wrong floor? We checked out all the other floors. No girls!

When we walked along the alley opposite the hotel, we were suddenly approached by a runner. She took us into a room with about 30 girls. Plenty of cuties. Zhang Yen was supposed to be a ST, but ended up spending the night. A real sweetie!

On our way out, we were approached by more runners, so there are definitely more BBS in the area.

BTW, sorry if this has already been reported. I don't have time to read all the posts.

Loso

AsnDragon
12-06-07, 12:23
If you believe that quality is better than quantity. Then Houjie is a pretty good place to be at. Granted you have cash to burn as well. Houjie KTV gals are on average better looking than CP KTV girls. Just my personal opinion.

So perhaps being routed over to Houjie isn't that bad afterall...

Try out their KTV's, high end ones like Sheraton. You will not be disappointed.


I was looking forward to going to CP.. Now I think I'm being rerouted to Houjie.

Wish me luck

AsnDragon
12-06-07, 12:29
ZMT, for those of you who don't know already. Is the Mistress Capital for Hong Kong guys. They stick their mistresses in ZMT. So when you walk around the malls and such during the day time on weekdays, you see a whole bunch of pretty girls walking around with no guys around. But on weekends it's a different story, because all of their Hong Kong boyfriends come back up to see them.

It's a smart move on the Hong Kong guy's part. I mean CP is a bit too complicated and messy to have your mistress in. ZMT is small, quaint, the train stops there a few times a day. It's cleaner and less disorganized than CP.

You'll find the ratio of women to men in ZMT to be even more lob sided than CP.

ZMT doesn't have much though. 3 years back, they use to have a large strip club. But someone from the government had a hidden camera, got it all on tape, broadcasted it on CCTV and it was closed the next day.

Other than that, ZMT type of fun you can pretty much get in CP as well. They do have that Coral Restaurant though, which is pretty good for breakfast sometimes, which CP does not have. But then again CP has starbucks, even though it tastes worse than Shenzhen's.

But eye candy in ZMT is great. Even the real estate agent i flirted with a while back was hot.


Hey guys,

I'm new to this forum but have been mongering for the past few years. I've mongered in the US, Japan, Vietnam, Thailand and most recently in ZMT.

_____________________________________

Here's some info for people interested in ZMT:

I went to ZMT with a group of friends back in August and we stayed at the Garden Hotel for about 3 nights.

Because we had a hookup, we got some comps and first dibs at the selection of KTV girls. Girls there range from 6 to high 8's and all seem to be under 25 years old. There were at least 150+ girls to choose from nightly.

Pricing for the KTV girls is 2/4/8. The KTV room fee, for around 8 people works out to roughly $150 US(not sure if this was the discounted rate) for the evening. But it was extra with all the food, drinks and tips for everyone.

The rooms at the Garden were very nice for only $50 USD a night, with a large, comfy bed and controls to all the lights at the bedstand, and a private sauna in the room.
__________________________________________

I've been reading all of the posts in this thread over the past few days(boy, what a wealth of information!) and have decided to plan a trip to CP with some of my friends.

I was wondering if anyone could help out some relative newbies to the CP scene?

A little background info about me and my friends. We're all American Born Asians in our early to mid 30's. While we've been to ZMT before, we don't speak the language, so we would be ever so grateful if someone here could help guide us on our first day in CP.

I've done the research and downloaded the google earth location map, however, I thought it would be better to learn first hand from seasoned pro's like a lot of you guys here.

We will be coming from LOS and arriving in CP on the evening of Dec 25th and plan to go back to HK on the afternoon of the 28th.

Please let me know if you can help! Thanks!

-Rontbo

P.S. I just subscribed to the PM system, so hopefully it will be activated soon. Hopefully, I won't miss any PMs. Thanks again!

Old Mean Dog
12-06-07, 13:55
Asn dragon,

I been mongering for a long time all over the world have smelly pussy in Changping about 4 time and once in the US , I think this is cause by bad hygiene and diet.

Fast eddie 48

Best you don't take Lingling from Angel then, her pussy was a little ripe the other night and I called to complain.

I've seen girls at the Lucky, get done with a John, walk out the front door of the hotel and in less than 2 minutes being hussled back in by the mommy.

Diet, Hygiene and too many loads in her makes the pussy smell bad ;)

-CPE

Old Mean Dog
12-06-07, 13:59
When I visited the Swan Lake Hotel yesterday with a fellow monger, there were no girls to be found on the 4th floor. The place looked exactly like it did 6 weeks ago, when the corridors & rooms were filled with pushy mommies and cute girls. Could I be on the wrong floor? We checked out all the other floors. No girls!

When we walked along the alley opposite the hotel, we were suddenly approached by a runner. She took us into a room with about 30 girls. Plenty of cuties. Zhang Yen was supposed to be a ST, but ended up spending the night. A real sweetie!

On our way out, we were approached by more runners, so there are definitely more BBS in the area.

BTW, sorry if this has already been reported. I don't have time to read all the posts.

Loso

Swan Lake was moved and reported about and those BBS's down the alley are well known as Baby's Shop.....

Just curious, but how do you distinguish which posts to read and which ones you bypass?

-CPE

Neuromancer
12-06-07, 14:12
RTFF for info on Houjie (took me about an hour and that was just for a search under "Houjie", didn't bother trying "Hou Jie" or "HJ"). Sheraton and Cinese seem to be the best bets for KTV and Kande seems the best bet for sauna. Few follow up questions:

1) Saw one post about Sheraton sauna running RMB1168??? Seems awfully steep as Shanghai Hotel sauna is only RMB688 or so (I would assume that prices in Shanghai are generally higher than DG)

2) From the DG train station (I guess that it's actually closer to CP than to DG downtown), what's the taxi fare to HJ?

3) Sheraton KTV - tiered system on pricing. Something about the color of dress indicating the LT price. Can anyone out there clarify the system? Is there really a RMB3000 price range? Seems a little absurd to me unless she completely rocks my world two or three times over.

Thanks!

Fast Eddie 48
12-06-07, 17:30
Best you don't take Lingling from Angel then, her pussy was a little ripe the other night and I called to complain.

I've seen girls at the Lucky, get done with a John, walk out the front door of the hotel and in less than 2 minutes being hussled back in by the mommy.

Diet, Hygiene and too many loads in her makes the pussy smell bad ;)

-CPECPE,

I don't know what the hell you feed those girls in CP ,I never had a bad smelly one in Shenzhen ,Shanghai or any other part of SE asia .

Fast eddie 48

Loso69
12-06-07, 20:53
Swan Lake was moved and reported about and those BBS's down the alley are well known as Baby's Shop.....

Just curious, but how do you distinguish which posts to read and which ones you bypass?

-CPE

Went back there today and was indeed given a Baby KTV card. The runners from the "other place" took us to where the Swan Lake girls have relocated - behind the R2 Entertainment Complex. Also met some Jia Yi KTV girls in a beauty shop in the area. Pity I couldn't really communicate with them.

Police patrols & few girls at the Night Market tonight. Still managed to bring home a huge pair of hooters.

BTW, I haven't read any posts since I started this long trip in October. Sorry for posting wrong information.

Loso

Dan Hawaii
12-06-07, 21:09
Wanderex,

Nope. You cannot take them back for a refund. I think the rule is (unwritten) once you stick your friend down there inside, there's no refund. Besides, every establishment has them, you've just been lucky. I've had this happen to me at Saunas, KTV girls-- where's their pussy smelled so bad, that when they got up from the vinyl KTV seat to go to the bathroom, their pussy smell penetrated through their panties, through their dress, onto the vinyl seats that resonated a pungent smell of fish, salt fish, anchovies left out of refrigeration for 10 days.

It happens to everyone at least once. There was once at an airport, where a women in her 30's walked by me and I could even smell her fishy smell at a distance of 5 feet away. If I could invent a odor neutralizer down there, I'd be filthy rich, cause it happens once in a while. Consider yourself lucky. For now.
Yeast infection is probably cause of the smell. However, there was this one girl I got behind Hui Mei that had a bad body odor. I mean, she stunk like a skunk. But she was hot. Damn, shame she stunk so bad, I thought a good shower would cure this, but no, I showered her myself with a lathery soapy towel for a thourough shower, but to no avail. She still stunk. I did not even wanted to do her, and defineately did not want to attempt to smell down there. But I did her anyway, hahaha. :)

Dan Hawaii
12-06-07, 21:14
Guys:
You've really done it this time!
You've totally screwed it all up for me now!
Had just come back from one of my usual overnight trips to Phuket which of course involves visiting Fantasia; well this time, instead of a row of beauties, all I saw were a bunch of over the hill crows with plastered on white masks! I mean - really!!! So much so that my usual mommy even offered me a couple younger uns' from the show (at THB2,100) instead of having to chose from the pig pen - but to me they were still dogs compared to what I've become accustomed to!
Nedless to say I did not partake and as a result am now totally "frustrated and in need"
SE Asia Joe
So how does Phillipines compare to CP? Fast Eddie told me CP is better, but they speak English in PI. Any thoughts?

Pointpanic
12-06-07, 23:06
So how does Phillipines compare to CP? Fast Eddie told me CP is better, but they speak English in PI. Any thoughts?
Dan. Having been to Manila, but not Angeles, I can say that Manila has lots of women but the "scenario" is different. CP is KTVs and BBS. There are no "girl" bars or discos or strip clubs or hostess bars. And there are not many caucasians.

Manila has lots of bars where the girls are "hostesses" or dancers. On Burgos Street in Makati there are about 25 bars that have take out women. There are many such bars along Roxas Boulevard. There are massage parlors similar to Bangkok. There are many upbeat restaurants. Manila has plenty to do.

The girls in Manila speak very good English.

On one of your trips to HK you might take PI Airlines from Honolulu and spend a couple of days in Makati. The Makati Palace on Burgos Street is good because it is within a block of good bars. You could have good days there and still get to HK

Send me an email and I will give you the scoop

Lexusman
12-07-07, 02:04
RTFF for info on Houjie (took me about an hour and that was just for a search under "Houjie", didn't bother trying "Hou Jie" or "HJ"). Sheraton and Cinese seem to be the best bets for KTV and Kande seems the best bet for sauna. Few follow up questions:

1) Saw one post about Sheraton sauna running RMB1168??? Seems awfully steep as Shanghai Hotel sauna is only RMB688 or so (I would assume that prices in Shanghai are generally higher than DG)

2) From the DG train station (I guess that it's actually closer to CP than to DG downtown), what's the taxi fare to HJ?

3) Sheraton KTV - tiered system on pricing. Something about the color of dress indicating the LT price. Can anyone out there clarify the system? Is there really a RMB3000 price range? Seems a little absurd to me unless she completely rocks my world two or three times over.

Thanks!Do not know answer for #1

#2 I took the train from HK Kowloon station to Dongguan and it turned out that it is about 50km away from Sheraton DG. I took local on the way there and paid 140RMB and took express on way back and paid 200RMB. Do not let the cab driver charge you another 30RMB for the toll back, he is bullshitting.

#3 I was at Sheraton KTV on Friday and Saturday night, prices were 3-8-10 or 5-10-12 for supposedly higher grade.

Both nights, I saw about 50 women per night, a mix of both grades, and took the normal grade each time. I saw nothing special about the higher priced ladies and there is no 3000 RMB price.

I was paying 780 RMB for the room in Sheraton, but the mommy told me she can get me a room for 548 through her, DARN! :D

My buddy brought home one of the DJ's since he fancied her, and the assitant mommy was also available if any of us wanted.

Hope this helps.

Old Mean Dog
12-07-07, 02:49
CPE,

I don't know what the hell you feed those girls in CP ,I never had a bad smelly one in Shenzhen ,Shanghai or any other part of SE asia .

Fast eddie 48

Wow, then your stink threshhold is much more forgiving then mine, as I have run into Suzy Rotten Crotch a few times in S. China.

-CPE

Old Mean Dog
12-07-07, 02:54
So how does Phillipines compare to CP? Fast Eddie told me CP is better, but they speak English in PI. Any thoughts?

90% of the girls in CP only care about your money, whilest in the PI, 90% also want a green card.

-CPE

Cowa Banga
12-07-07, 03:28
CPX,

Say what? You mean the girls don't like me because I'm from the West? In Pattaya, I've been told by all shirtless experts that the girls really hate Thai men and only love us. Good good. I've been mislead.

Goreng Pisang
12-07-07, 06:23
My honourable Senior members and freindly Regular members,

Gonna be in CP on the 11th Dec till 14th Dec. Needed your help.

1. Will be visiting JiaYi and Mariton KTV. Please enlighten me which other KTV is good. My friend and I will definately bring 1 or 2 girls back. Girls are what we will be looking for, the place and its comfort, or even sound system is secondary.

2. Read so much about the BBS. Care to share how I should start? Saw alot of "mommies" along the road asking if I want woman during my last 2 trips there. Honestly, my heart is fucking yelling yes but my mouth said No. Because I am worried about safety. So, please help me know if it is ok?

3. Where is Yalan Hotel? It seems like many of the Senior Members mentioned this hotel and is it that happening?

Guys, do PM me the contacts if you have any and I'll be grateful.

Thx in advance.

Goreng Pisang (Frying Bananna)

Fast Eddie 48
12-07-07, 06:53
90% of the girls in CP only care about your money, whilest in the PI, 90% also want a green card.

-CPECPE?DAN,

NO CP girl wants your money and your tip and then a green card. Dan, you do ok in CP without speaking any chinese but I still think you should give Manila a try and let yourself be the judge. Also you should give other city in China a try instead of spend all your time in CP.

Fast eddie 48

Loso69
12-07-07, 07:06
So how does Phillipines compare to CP? Fast Eddie told me CP is better, but they speak English in PI. Any thoughts?

China Dolls are prettier.
Filipinas are cheaper, way better in bed & speak English.

Loso

Chillin
12-07-07, 20:22
Welp. I made it here in one piece. Stayed at the Jia Hua Grand Hotel. At least that's what the translation is on the CTS schedule. The trip cost me 200 HK. You have to get off at HK and China customs. It wasn't too too busy so the ride was ok. PS. They all lie to you when it comes to the times it takes to get to the destination.

I ran into a guy going to Humen and he had to get off at chang an and they put him on a cab to get to Humen.

Went to KTV in the hotel and it was ok. I wasn't happy with the chic so I bounced her at the end of the night. Paid 300. I don't know what the room cost but it was around 2500 last I checked before I jammed. For LT it was rumored to be in the 1300 area. I wasn't about to find out.

I wne to the sauna instead. It was excellent. They had tiers. 4/5/6. I found it odd. But wtf. I went with the 6 and I was not disappointed. The rooms also had tiers. I had 333.

The area looks like CP. The store fronts and stuff. But I 'm not venturing out it's pretty medival looking outside the hotel compounds.

I wish I could've met up in CP. I would feel more comfortable there since everything's in walking distance and I felt relaitvely safe on the main street. I'll see if I can convince to have day trip there. I wonder how far it is from here?

AS for quality vs. Qauntity. For the price they asking for. Blah. Maybe I'll try the shearton KTV. But I'm kinda like over the KTV experience. Only going there to have fun adn buzzed. And that's it. UNLESS I get one that's kewl. I tried to get the chic to suck on my finger and she wasn't too enthusedabout it. I pretty much took that as precursor of waht would happen. They had ones that were 200 but they're not available for take out. I'll probly do that instead.

Csun213
12-07-07, 20:27
China Dolls are prettier.
Filipinas are cheaper, way better in bed & speak English.

Loso

I agree. In Angeles it costs about $25 to take a girl all night. However if you don't want the girl to stay all night, it cost the same.

Pointpanic
12-07-07, 22:02
China Dolls are prettier.
Filipinas are cheaper, way better in bed & speak English.

Loso

Loso I agree with you that the China Dolls are prettier and taller. Also there are so many more Chinese ladies for selection. The Filipinas are great in bed and fun to be with since they speak English. I do agree that the Filipinas are looking for that green card.

Moody
12-08-07, 01:40
RTFF for info on Houjie (took me about an hour and that was just for a search under "Houjie", didn't bother trying "Hou Jie" or "HJ"). Sheraton and Cinese seem to be the best bets for KTV and Kande seems the best bet for sauna. Few follow up questions:

1) Saw one post about Sheraton sauna running RMB1168??? Seems awfully steep as Shanghai Hotel sauna is only RMB688 or so (I would assume that prices in Shanghai are generally higher than DG)

That's only because they have different classes of girls. The room itself is less than 300, think like 260 or something. It should be noted that the Sheraton Houjie is a much nicer hotel than the Shanghai Hotel. The sauna rooms are all 5 star clean. The girls are tiered though at 4/6/8 xiaofei. Seriously though, the 800 girls are not any better looking or performing really, unless you have a strong preference for taller girls. There's one thing I always thought was kind of funny about the Sheraton sauna girls. When they come into the little viewing room, they're all wearing a robe. After they enter, they open the robe to reveal lingerie. I guess that's so you can get a better look at their bodies or something.


2) From the DG train station (I guess that it's actually closer to CP than to DG downtown), what's the taxi fare to HJ?

If you're coming from Luohu, just take the bus. From CP to Houjie is going to be about 40 minutes or so.


3) Sheraton KTV - tiered system on pricing. Something about the color of dress indicating the LT price. Can anyone out there clarify the system? Is there really a RMB3000 price range? Seems a little absurd to me unless she completely rocks my world two or three times over.

Thanks!

Again, they have different tiers of girls. Most are of the 3/8/10 variety, but some are 5/10/12-15. I believe I posted before, there are no 3000 girls unless you're a sucker.

OldAsiaHand
12-08-07, 02:58
JiaYi may be the best line-up in S. China. Hui Mei KTV can get pretty wild, but I was there with Moody and HE has a way of getting the girls wild.

BBS in Yalan Hotel area are safe. Just go to the area and follow the mamas to the shops. Every taxi or van driver in CP knows the Yalan Hotel. Don't worry, the mamas will approach you before you get out of the taxi.

OAH



My honourable Senior members and freindly Regular members,

Gonna be in CP on the 11th Dec till 14th Dec. Needed your help.

1. Will be visiting JiaYi and Mariton KTV. Please enlighten me which other KTV is good. My friend and I will definately bring 1 or 2 girls back. Girls are what we will be looking for, the place and its comfort, or even sound system is secondary.

2. Read so much about the BBS. Care to share how I should start? Saw alot of "mommies" along the road asking if I want woman during my last 2 trips there. Honestly, my heart is fucking yelling yes but my mouth said No. Because I am worried about safety. So, please help me know if it is ok?

3. Where is Yalan Hotel? It seems like many of the Senior Members mentioned this hotel and is it that happening?

Guys, do PM me the contacts if you have any and I'll be grateful.

Thx in advance.

Goreng Pisang (Frying Bananna)

OldAsiaHand
12-08-07, 03:04
CPE,

I have also encountered my fair share of the above. I think it is just a result of sheer numbers we do. It is especially bad when you flip them over for doggy and the aroma rising is overwhelming. My dick is shrinking and my stomach is turning just thinking about it.

OAH



Wow, then your stink threshhold is much more forgiving then mine, as I have run into Suzy Rotten Crotch a few times in S. China.

-CPE

Old Mean Dog
12-08-07, 04:29
CPE?DAN,

NO CP girl wants your money and your tip and then a green card. Dan, you do ok in CP without speaking any chinese but I still think you should give Manila a try and let yourself be the judge. Also you should give other city in China a try instead of spend all your time in CP.

Fast eddie 48

I moved my comment to the Chinese Women and Advice Section.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=679016&postcount=1327

Old Mean Dog
12-08-07, 05:17
CPE,

I have also encountered my fair share of the above. I think it is just a result of sheer numbers we do. It is especially bad when you flip them over for doggy and the aroma rising is overwhelming. My dick is shrinking and my stomach is turning just thinking about it.

OAH

You should ask Gentilman Jim about the time he was tapping one doggy and noticed a small white worm looking back at him from her brown eye. I still have nightmares about that.

-CPE

Dan Hawaii
12-08-07, 05:26
Dan. Having been to Manila, but not Angeles, I can say that Manila has lots of women but the "scenario" is different. CP is KTVs and BBS. There are no "girl" bars or discos or strip clubs or hostess bars. And there are not many caucasians.

Manila has lots of bars where the girls are "hostesses" or dancers. On Burgos Street in Makati there are about 25 bars that have take out women. There are many such bars along Roxas Boulevard. There are massage parlors similar to Bangkok. There are many upbeat restaurants. Manila has plenty to do.

The girls in Manila speak very good English.

On one of your trips to HK you might take PI Airlines from Honolulu and spend a couple of days in Makati. The Makati Palace on Burgos Street is good because it is within a block of good bars. You could have good days there and still get to HK

Send me an email and I will give you the scoop
Hi Waiks,
thanks for the info. I plan on going to CP on January 14 and staying there for 10 days. Then going off to Phillipines for another 10 days. I was just wondering about the comparision. I know CP is going to have better quality, but I never been to PI, so want to try it, because of the English factor. If it is half as good as CP, it will be worth it:) . I'll give you guys a comparision update.... CP versus PI.

Where should I post that?

RCA Knight
12-08-07, 05:26
A few years back, some HK monger pal taught me this. If you encounter stinky smell from the pussy or the arm pit, put a whole chunk of Tiger Balm inside your nostrils. The smell will become cool as ice. It works for me.

Dan Hawaii
12-08-07, 05:29
90% of the girls in CP only care about your money, whilest in the PI, 90% also want a green card.

-CPE
I think 110% want your money everywhere in the world. And 100% want a green card:) .

Dan Hawaii
12-08-07, 05:34
Also you should give other city in China a try instead of spend all your time in CP.

Fast eddie 48
Why should I search for perfection when I already found the place? :) Just kidding, I want to try out ZhuHai and maybe Sebu in SZ.

Moody
12-08-07, 08:23
I tried to get the chic to suck on my finger and she wasn't too enthusedabout it. I pretty much took that as precursor of waht would happen. They had ones that were 200 but they're not available for take out. I'll probly do that instead.

Behavior like sucking on a finger is big time losing face behavior. Girls won't do that kind of thing at KTV unless

1) you're alone.
2) if the other girls are also doing it.
3) if you offer them money to do it.

That's not saying it's impossible. It's just not common. One way to break the ice for that kind of thing is to play drinking games where the loser has to either drink a whole cup or lick your finger if you drink for her.

Here's something you should know about KTV. You can go back to the same place on another night with the same group of guys, get the exact same girls, drink the exact same amount of booze, and somehow have vastly different experiences. Maybe the first night you can get them to take their clothes off and dance topless, the second night they won't even let you slide your hand up their dress. That's just the way it is.

Moody
12-08-07, 08:25
Why should I search for perfection when I already found the place? :) Just kidding, I want to try out ZhuHai and maybe Sebu in SZ.

If you go to Zhuhai you may as well go to Macau too.... Seibu is over-rated. I would say the only reason SZ guys go there is because CP takes an hour to get to and you don't need a hotel room.

Moody
12-08-07, 08:40
My honourable Senior members and freindly Regular members,

Gonna be in CP on the 11th Dec till 14th Dec. Needed your help.

1. Will be visiting JiaYi and Mariton KTV. Please enlighten me which other KTV is good. My friend and I will definately bring 1 or 2 girls back. Girls are what we will be looking for, the place and its comfort, or even sound system is secondary.

KTV is KTV and to be honest, if you go to any of the major KTVs in CP, the experience is almost identical. The exception being Jiayi and Versailles because you can look at all the girls all at once when you do the picking. Once that part is over though, it's like going anywhere else except the girls bother you about buying them drinks. The meat market concept is not really a draw for me anymore so I'd rather go to other places where I'm more comfortable. BTW, taking back 2 at the same time is over rated. With very rare exceptions, one of the girls will either wait in the bathroom or turn her back and watch TV while you're doing the other one. Don't expect any of the girls to do any bi or lezzy stuff.


2. Read so much about the BBS. Care to share how I should start? Saw alot of "mommies" along the road asking if I want woman during my last 2 trips there. Honestly, my heart is fucking yelling yes but my mouth said No. Because I am worried about safety. So, please help me know if it is ok?

Ok in terms of what? Safety? As in whether the girl will call 4 other guys to your room to beat you up? If that happens, just use the OWL technique and kick 'em in the balls. If that doesn't work, look for a loose pipe in your hotel room. According to OWL, that's what he would do. Since he's got so much credibility on this board and I don't...... he must know what he's talking about.

Joking aside, it's possible something like that could happen, but I haven't heard about it. Just lock away your valuables and you should be fine. The worst I've had happen was some girl took some snacks from the mini bar.


3. Where is Yalan Hotel? It seems like many of the Senior Members mentioned this hotel and is it that happening?

Guys, do PM me the contacts if you have any and I'll be grateful.

Thx in advance.

Goreng Pisang (Frying Bananna)

Yalan is a 6-7 minute ride by car from where the main hotels are. There's a bunch of shops over there with girls. It's not THAT happening, but it's easy to get to and there's a lot of shops within a short distance. You could just as easily get a girl from those bread trucks.

Dan Hawaii
12-08-07, 08:58
If you go to Zhuhai you may as well go to Macau too.... Seibu is over-rated. I would say the only reason SZ guys go there is because CP takes an hour to get to and you don't need a hotel room.
Thanks for the insight, is there anything in SZ that is worth staying in SZ for a day or 2? Or straight to CP is the way to go?
I think SZE, now CPE, answered that question already:) . Nough said.

Dan and company was suppose to go to Macau the July trip, but opted to stay in CP and, furthermore, extend our vacation to stay in CP as long as possible. Macau was unanimously vetoed :) .

Dan Hawaii
12-08-07, 09:09
You should ask Gentilman Jim about the time he was tapping one doggy and noticed a small white worm looking back at him from her brown eye. I still have nightmares about that.

-CPE
Are you talking maggots, tapeworm, or hookworm. Nasty. What did Jim do? Run, finish the job, or ask for a refund? Hahaha. That's FUBAR!

Dan Hawaii
12-08-07, 09:34
My honourable Senior members and freindly Regular members,

Gonna be in CP on the 11th Dec till 14th Dec. Needed your help.

1. Will be visiting JiaYi and Mariton KTV. Please enlighten me which other KTV is good. My friend and I will definately bring 1 or 2 girls back. Girls are what we will be looking for, the place and its comfort, or even sound system is secondary.

2. Read so much about the BBS. Care to share how I should start? Saw alot of "mommies" along the road asking if I want woman during my last 2 trips there. Honestly, my heart is fucking yelling yes but my mouth said No. Because I am worried about safety. So, please help me know if it is ok?

3. Where is Yalan Hotel? It seems like many of the Senior Members mentioned this hotel and is it that happening?

Guys, do PM me the contacts if you have any and I'll be grateful.

Thx in advance.

Goreng Pisang (Frying Bananna)
1. KTVs (order of recommended)
Jia Yi -hall of 300 girls -kind of moderate expensive in price- 9 quality girls
Hui Hua -more on the expensive side- 8 quality girls
Lion is good and cheap -hall of 100 girls-8 quality girls
Amazon - moderate cheaper side -hall of 100 girls- 7 quality girl
Hui Mei -moderate price - 7 quality girls
Miraton is mispelled never been there
Virgin KTV is junk

2. Safety
It is pretty safe, but I did read one time someone got kidnapped and got their atm card maxed out. But all you need to do is follow the mommy and stick your head in the door to look if there are girls in the room. Dont go all the way into the room. Keep your body on the outside so you can blitz it out of there if your intuition says GTFO. If there are girls, then it is pretty sure to be a "legit" BBS. Legit BBS, hahaha, no such thing, but you know what I mean.

3.Yalan BBS
There are lots of BBS's in Yalan, better than on the CP strip. So just tell the cab, Yalan KTV and they will take you right into BBS land. It is worth the trip, lots of talent in Yalan.

Times to go?
KTVs- no later than 7pm, but try to get there at 6:40pm for the cream of the crop pickings of girls.

BBS- Sunday to Thursday go between 3-5pm, no later than 7pm. On Friday and Saturday, go between 2-4 pm, no later than 5pm.

Moody
12-08-07, 10:21
Thanks for the insight, is there anything in SZ that is worth staying in SZ for a day or 2? Or straight to CP is the way to go?
I think SZE, now CPE, answered that question already:) . Nough said.

Dan and company was suppose to go to Macau the July trip, but opted to stay in CP and, furthermore, extend our vacation to stay in CP as long as possible. Macau was unanimously vetoed :) .

There's a lot of reasons to be in SZ, but since Shazui is no longer what it used to be, getting girls really isn't one of them unless you don't mind spending like 3-5K or so for a girl. Talent in the high end KTVs in SZ is quite a bit better than DG. There's only a few places that qualify as really "high end" in SZ and nobody really writes about them because not many people on the board go to them. Most of the middle range places in SZ (places where girls are 1500 all night) are very similar to the better places in DG. If you really want to go to a high end place, I'll give you names and stuff.

Macau is a bit different. First of all, there's the gambling. If you like casinos, then that's a draw by itself. Second, saunas in Macau have an international flavor. You can get everything from Vietnamese, Mongolian, Russian, Korean, Malay, Japanese, Ukrainian, Chinese and more. Saunas in Macau also tend to be a bit more.... I don't know..... out in the open? At some places girls parade around where all the guys hang out and stuff unlike in China where you wait in a room and they bring a lineup. There's also the Lisboa thing. Once the novelty of the girls walking in a circle for hours wears off, it's nothing special. I didn't really get a chance to go to KTV in Macau. My friends and I would always gamble way into the early morning and then head to a sauna. A couple times we did go to discos and I saw some girls there. Be careful who you approach though. One time I went up to a girl who was somebody's wife. The guy wasn't so pissed, but his wife was and we almost got into a fight. Reason prevailed though when he saw he was outnumbered 3 to 1. It's a good thing he didn't know the famous "OWL ball kicking technique" or we would have been in trouble.

Chillin
12-08-07, 12:05
What other methods can I use to determine if BJ is on the menu?


Behavior like sucking on a finger is big time losing face behavior. Girls won't do that kind of thing at KTV unless

1) you're alone.
2) if the other girls are also doing it.
3) if you offer them money to do it.

That's not saying it's impossible. It's just not common. One way to break the ice for that kind of thing is to play drinking games where the loser has to either drink a whole cup or lick your finger if you drink for her.

Here's something you should know about KTV. You can go back to the same place on another night with the same group of guys, get the exact same girls, drink the exact same amount of booze, and somehow have vastly different experiences. Maybe the first night you can get them to take their clothes off and dance topless, the second night they won't even let you slide your hand up their dress. That's just the way it is.

Bill Lee
12-08-07, 14:55
Witnessed a girl being taken away by the LE, as a laowei walked the girl out of the 5th floor KTV shop behind the Yalan restaurant. The laowei walked free but the girl was picked up.

I was told by one of the mommies that four paddywagons full of mommies and girls were picked up by LE on a sweep of the shop (green door/banyun tree) behind the Yalan hotel. Jojo's and Baby's shop were closed.

The streets were free of mommies tonight. This all happened around 8:00 p.m.

Heard that another laowei, who was obnoxious was picked up by the LE with a girl and brought into the station. The laowei was told to leave the country and his passport or visa was stamped with some derogatory reference to been a prostitute patron. Don't know how much the latter is true.

Guys, stay away from CP for the time being. For the last two weeks, crackdowns have been going on and off. Even the night market is unpredictable. Could be holiday thing. Who knows.

Bill

Neuromancer
12-08-07, 15:57
Thanks Moody and Lexusman,

Coming from HK, so sounds like the best option is to skip the train and hop on a bus from SZ. How long is the bus ride? Any idea what the going rate for a taxi/private car is?

Old Mean Dog
12-08-07, 17:16
Witnessed a girl being taken away by the LE, as a laowei walked the girl out of the 5th floor KTV shop behind the Yalan restaurant. The laowei walked free but the girl was picked up.

I was told by one of the mommies that four paddywagons full of mommies and girls were picked up by LE on a sweep of the shop (green door/banyun tree) behind the Yalan hotel. Jojo's and Baby's shop were closed.

The streets were free of mommies tonight. This all happened around 8:00 p.m.

Heard that another laowei, who was obnoxious was picked up by the LE with a girl and brought into the station. The laowei was told to leave the country and his passport or visa was stamped with some derogatory reference to been a prostitute patron. Don't know how much the latter is true.

Guys, stay away from CP for the time being. For the last two weeks, crackdowns have been going on and off. Even the night market is unpredictable. Could be holiday thing. Who knows.

Bill

One of my "friends", who is quite a popular Yalan xiaojie, came over tonight to hangout and told me that 9 girls were arrested in the Yalan area this evening, including a few mommies. If this girl is coming over to "hangout" on a Saturday night, you can best bet something big went down.

-CPE

BTW: Hey freshmen laowai in CP, don't be so fucking bold. Prostitution is illegal in China! If the cops come, you need to ditch the chicken and walk the other way. period.

Cowa Banga
12-08-07, 21:31
CPX,

If the Thailand types head to China, your playground is going to turn to shit. Those guys have no brains or self control.

Pointpanic
12-09-07, 00:29
1. KTVs (order of recommended)
Jia Yi -hall of 300 girls -kind of moderate expensive in price- 9 quality girls
Hui Hua -more on the expensive side- 8 quality girls
Lion is good and cheap -hall of 100 girls-8 quality girls
Amazon - moderate cheaper side -hall of 100 girls- 7 quality girl
Hui Mei -moderate price - 7 quality girls
Miraton is mispelled never been there
Virgin KTV is junk

2. Safety
It is pretty safe, but I did read one time someone got kidnapped and got their atm card maxed out. But all you need to do is follow the mommy and stick your head in the door to look if there are girls in the room. Dont go all the way into the room. Keep your body on the outside so you can blitz it out of there if your intuition says GTFO. If there are girls, then it is pretty sure to be a "legit" BBS. Legit BBS, hahaha, no such thing, but you know what I mean.

3.Yalan BBS
There are lots of BBS's in Yalan, better than on the CP strip. So just tell the cab, Yalan KTV and they will take you right into BBS land. It is worth the trip, lots of talent in Yalan.

Times to go?
KTVs- no later than 7pm, but try to get there at 6:40pm for the cream of the crop pickings of girls.

BBS- Sunday to Thursday go between 3-5pm, no later than 7pm. On Friday and Saturday, go between 2-4 pm, no later than 5pm.



Dan,

In addition New Century has about 200 ladies. Hui Hua pricing
PP Club KTV has at least 250 ladies. 2/5/8 Girls are looser
Walter KTV 5 to 7 range. Moderate pricing. Girls are willing to please.
Crown Prince Girls wear cheongsams. Top dollar and maybe best in area. It is in Huangjiang.
Miraton MBA Club Moderate fun loving girls

That's all we have. WaikikiBob

Moody
12-09-07, 02:13
What other methods can I use to determine if BJ is on the menu?

The easiest way is the simple way. Just ask her.

Moody
12-09-07, 02:15
Thanks Moody and Lexusman,

Coming from HK, so sounds like the best option is to skip the train and hop on a bus from SZ. How long is the bus ride? Any idea what the going rate for a taxi/private car is?

Bus would take about an hour, same with a car. A private car would be around 200 or so and a bus ticket about 30 IIRC. Taxis are supposed to have a flat rate to places in DG, but I'm not sure what it is since I never took one. If I had to guess, it would be in the 200-300 range. BTW, the Houjie bus station is about a block from the Sheraton.

Chillin
12-09-07, 02:49
lol. Why didn't I think of that.

I guess I'm thinking with the wrong head.


The easiest way is the simple way. Just ask her.

Bill Lee
12-09-07, 03:00
I'm getting PM and text messages that crackdowns are occurring throughout southern China including some high end KTV clubs. Some one mentioned they are a prelude to the Olympic.

Please do not add any postings about the government. Thank you.

See you all in 2009.

Bill

Old Mean Dog
12-09-07, 05:29
I'm getting PM and text messages that crackdowns are occurring throughout southern China including some high end KTV clubs. Some one mentioned they are a prelude to the Olympic.

Please do not add any postings about the government. Thank you.

See you all in 2009.

Bill

I really don't think it has much to do with the Olympics, that is just what some are using as an excuse. The Olympics are not being held in CP or even in South China (less the equestrian events in HK).

Been coming here long enough to notice how little CP wants to become a modern big CP. My 2 cents are that the BBS and the xiaojie on the street will be a thing of the past and will be replaced by fancy, high end KTV's and Massage Joints were the xiaojie is moved indoors and the prices go up.

A lot more cops and crowd control fellas now then there used to be, I just see these raids as becoming more and more common. The shops will eventually end up moving or closing.

Enjoy it while you can.

-CPE

Fast Eddie 48
12-09-07, 06:49
I really don't think it has much to do with the Olympics, that is just what some are using as an excuse. The Olympics are not being held in CP or even in South China (less the equestrian events in HK).

Been coming here long enough to notice how little CP wants to become a modern big CP. My 2 cents are that the BBS and the xiaojie on the street will be a thing of the past and will be replaced by fancy, high end KTV's and Massage Joints were the xiaojie is moved indoors and the prices go up.

A lot more cops and crowd control fellas now then there used to be, I just see these raids as becoming more and more common. The shops will eventually end up moving or closing.

Enjoy it while you can.CPE,

I been coming to CP for over 10 yr there are crack down every yr there are a crack down last yr around this time and some sauna like the new century was closed down for a week during Xmas time ,the city need to keep mommie and the bbs in check and there will be another crack down before chinese new yr in 2 month ,for you guy that are in town right now becareful just go some where else until thing die down .

Fast eddie 48

Donwon
12-09-07, 10:42
I was in a town just 30 minutes outside Shenzhen a week ago. Yes lads, there appears to be some sort of crackdown happening. I had no problem with the mommies having the girls delieved within 15 minutes in the first couple of weeks I was there. However, on my third week there the delivery was taking longer and longer. The mommy advised me that the motorcycle fellas (this is their means of delivery) were being checked by the cops. Not sure what for. Licenses? Also, one of the girls I took overnight told me in my last week there she was gonna be leaving town soon for a while until things cooled down. Apparently, there were some plainclothes fellas following the girls to the hotels. She mentioned that some of the girls should be a little more discreet as some of them (groups of 3 and 4) were drawing attention by talking out loud and bragging about stuff while walking on the streets. My mandarin is limited so I wasn't able to dig more out of her Anyway, it could be a whole bunch of bull from them, but it would still be wise to keep your guard up.

During my time in the Mainland I spent a couple of days in CP and started off at the Walter for a footie. Was with my buddy in the same room and the we stripped to our boxers on the request of our massage girls (mmm. Well I think that was what they asked us to do). They were pretty playful and were rubbing us around the groin area to get us worked up. Even teased my buddy that he had nothing down there. Apparently, he was pretty aggresive with his gal and was trying to feel her up at times so I suppose that was her rebutal. Anyway, mine gave me her phone number and asked me to call her but I did not follow- up. Wasn't my type.

Ended up at the Huimei Dating that night and watched the Phillipino band. Had the mama bring us a couple of girls. Picked a beauty from Sichuan or was it Chongqing. I can't remember. Just remember She was pretty hot. Was disappointed at the end of the nite when told that she was on the rag. Her friend which my buddy decided to take for the nite tried to get me another gal but I declined. Damn I felt that they sucked me in for a $200 sit down fee. SHe drank my beer, smoked my cigarettes and grabbed my cock a few times and now I can't take her home to shag. Any way, on our way home outside the Lucky I got attacked by the Mamas. One followed me all the way to our floor. Didn't want her to know my room number so I relented and told her I was gonna help her out and take one of her girls. Picked miaomiao as she smiled at me and spoke a little english. Fun gal and a good lay although it took me close to an hour and I had to hold my breathe at times. Gave her 120 RMB and sent her home after the deed.

Took the mini van for 40 rmb to Zhongmouto the next day. Buddy had gone there previously With HK friends and told me service was good at the Metropolitan Sauna. Damage is $225 for room ($175 with $50 coupon) and $400 for the B girls and $500 for the A girls. Took the A girls as we wanted to treat ourselves. Fantastic service. They go through a set of 10 things. 2 shots, BBBJ, cleaned your ears, ar and a bunch of other stuff. Gal I had was gentle and went through her routine with a lot enthusiasm. Apparently one of the difference with the A and B girls was the B girls stuck adildo up your ass and the A girls would stick their tongue up yours. Not into either of those so I declined that. Worth the money though so will return again one day. Went back to Shenzhen by train (Train station is only a few blocks away) in only 20 minutes.

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Football Hero
12-09-07, 11:59
I am a 30something Singaporean guy who has been visiting CP for about a year now but have only just discovered this forum.

Most of the posts here focus on the Huimei area. But I usually only stay at New Century Hotel which has an excellent sauna. So far I have never been let down in the past 12 months. The girls are excellently trained and there is a huge variety.

Damages are
House - RMB138 (if you already have a room at the hotel)
Girl - RMB300

There are also RMB400 girls, who are dressed in black jackets and short tight skirts. My experience is that the additional RMB100 doesn't really make much difference.

There is also a BBS behind New Century Hotel. There is usually a mamasan named Xiao Ling who hangs out near the guard post behind the hotel. She can either bring you to her shop or bring her girls up to your hotel room if you stay at New Century hotel.

Damages are
Mamasan - RMB100
Girl - RMB200

I don't think her girls are very good. Most appear to be KTV/Sauna rejects or part-timers looking to make a little cash while their husbands are away.

Old Mean Dog
12-09-07, 12:27
I was reading about kissing in the Chinese Women and Advice Section and it reminded me that 2 days ago (Fri) when I decided to go get a footie. I was flying solo as Gentilman Jim, Bill Lee and Santa were all busy doing something, like taking naps.

Anyway, my regular was not available, so they sent me in a new girl that has been here just a bit under a month. Hunan girl, very short, big tits and cute, only 18. Anyway, she spoke a little English and since I was solo, decided to relax as I had no other better plans.

During the first hour, we talked a lot and she kept staring, asked me to do a second hour, which I agreed. I told her I wanted her, she agreed....to a certain degree. We ended up fooling around and making out for 3/4 of the second hour, pulled her very nice fat titties out and played with them as she played with my cock.

Ended up doing a 3rd hour and found she likes and was willing to be with a "white" guy. My damage was only the 3 hour foot massage (approx 117 rmb), we did exchange phone #'s, so this could become a semi-freebie.

I have banged girls in there that was strictly a cash up front basis as well. They may not be as skilled or as pretty as the BBS girls, but they are cute and tight. I guess more chance of a GFE (with or without the E).

Anyway, just the kissing and the freebie reports reminded me about this. I really avoid posting "hands on" reports anymore, but felt this proves that freebies and other girls besides xiaojies are available here.

-CPE

Goreng Pisang
12-09-07, 16:41
JiaYi may be the best line-up in S. China. Hui Mei KTV can get pretty wild, but I was there with Moody and HE has a way of getting the girls wild.

OAHYup yup yup. Got it! Thks!

Done Jia Yi and indeed it was great. In fact, the girl I brought back was behaving like my girlfriend! And honestly, I made a big big mistake. I did her without a rubber! Yes I know! I have been a fool! Lucky for me, my blood test result was clear. Phew!

By the way, my 2nd visit to CP, New Century Hotel KTV was really bad. Got 2 girls to seat with me and one, wothout a smile thru the night and the other moved away from me each time I tried to put my arm round her shoulder. I am certain I did not smell bad. If I did, then the freaking blame is on Hugo Boss perfume!

I was so pissed that I decided not to bring any one back (on the hind sight, they may fucking not wanna come with me). Sigh.

Goreng Pisang (this time I was fried)

Goreng Pisang
12-09-07, 16:52
[QUOTE=Moody]KTV is KTV and to be honest, if you go to any of the major KTVs in CP, the experience is almost identical. The exception being Jiayi and Versailles because you can look at all the girls all at once when you do the picking.

Ok in terms of what? Safety? As in whether the girl will call 4 other guys to your room to beat you up? If that happens, just use the OWL technique and kick 'them in the balls. If that doesn't work, look for a loose pipe in your hotel room. According to OWL, that's what he would do. Since he's got so much credibility on this board and I don't. He must know what he's talking about.

Yes Sir! I think you're right. I should just bring one back!

And you sure sounded like you're so pissed with OWL. LOL. Tell you what. I bite their balls off. And, I am sure I'll find a pipe. Haven't you noticed pipes are lying all around in CP? Cast a stone anyway and it will hit one. Hahaha. ; )

By the way, where is Versailles?

Cheers,

Goreng Pisang

Goreng Pisang
12-09-07, 16:57
[QUOTE=Dan Hawaii]1. KTVs (order of recommended)

Jia Yi.hall of 300 girls.kind of moderate expensive in price- 9 quality girls

Hui Hua.more on the expensive side- 8 quality girls

Lion is good and cheap.hall of 100 girls-8 quality girls

Amazon. Moderate cheaper side.hall of 100 girls- 7 quality girl

Hui Mei.moderate price. 7 quality girls

Miraton is mispelled never been there

Virgin KTV is junk

Bro, give me an honest answer. You have shares in their business? ; )

How many years have you been there? My God!

Pal, these informations are truely helping me a long way, thanks again!

Cheers

Goreng Pisang

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Greetings,

It appears that you inadvertently forgot to correctly place the quote tags in this report. Usually I can fix this sort of thing before it's displayed, but I don't have a clue as to how you intended this report to appear.

The quote tags are simple to use, all you have to do is look for them in the text. Anything that you want to appear in quotes must start with "[quote]" and end with "[/quote ]". Please note the "/" forward slash in the last tag. It's that simple.

In addition, you can preview your report before it's posted, so it's easy to check if you got it right before it's displayed in The Forum.

Thanks,

Jackson

Goreng Pisang
12-09-07, 17:02
Oh shit!

These raids you guys talked about. So is it safe?

What happens to me if I'm caught in the midst of doing the girl in the hotel room?

Or if I am bring the girl out of the hotel/BBS shop?

Man. Your reports are worrying. Sigh.

Goreng Pisang

Basher55
12-10-07, 00:04
CPExpat,

Did you bang her this time or just had a fumble? I am sure some girls are available in the footies, but more on a non pro basis.

Old Mean Dog
12-10-07, 01:52
Oh shit!

These raids you guys talked about. So is it safe?

What happens to me if I'm caught in the midst of doing the girl in the hotel room?

Or if I am bring the girl out of the hotel/BBS shop?

Man. Your reports are worrying. Sigh.

Goreng Pisang

Within the hotel, I would not worry. Walking out of the shop or being caught in it during a raid, I would shit my pants. I've had to use secret back/trap doors in the past to avoid raids, getting caught would suck if they decided to drop the hammer.

-CPE

Old Mean Dog
12-10-07, 01:57
[QUOTE=Dan Hawaii]1. KTVs (order of recommended)

Jia Yi.hall of 300 girls.kind of moderate expensive in price- 9 quality girls

Hui Hua.more on the expensive side- 8 quality girls

Lion is good and cheap.hall of 100 girls-8 quality girls

Amazon. Moderate cheaper side.hall of 100 girls- 7 quality girl

Hui Mei.moderate price. 7 quality girls

Miraton is mispelled never been there

Virgin KTV is junk

Bro, give me an honest answer. You have shares in their business? ; )

How many years have you been there? My God!

Pal, these informations are truely helping me a long way, thanks again!

Cheers

Goreng Pisang



I will assume you have never met Dan.

Think of Dan as a sex junkie and his preferred drug is KTV.

The only time Dan slows down on banging Chinese girls is when he's sleeping and eating and I would safely bet there would still be a girl beside him.

-CPE

OldAsiaHand
12-10-07, 02:57
The girls you refer to should be 50-100 RMB for the mamasan, 100 RMB for the girl.


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There is also a BBS behind New Century Hotel. There is usually a mamasan named Xiao Ling who hangs out near the guard post behind the hotel. She can either bring you to her shop or bring her girls up to your hotel room if you stay at New Century hotel.

Damages are
Mamasan - RMB100
Girl - RMB200

I don't think her girls are very good. Most appear to be KTV/Sauna rejects or part-timers looking to make a little cash while their husbands are away.

Old Mean Dog
12-10-07, 08:28
CPExpat,

Did you bang her this time or just had a fumble? I am sure some girls are available in the footies, but more on a non pro basis.

I don't kiss and tell....hahahaha.

-CPE

Dan Hawaii
12-10-07, 21:48
There's a lot of reasons to be in SZ, but since Shazui is no longer what it used to be, getting girls really isn't one of them unless you don't mind spending like 3-5K or so for a girl. Talent in the high end KTVs in SZ is quite a bit better than DG. There's only a few places that qualify as really "high end" in SZ and nobody really writes about them because not many people on the board go to them. Most of the middle range places in SZ (places where girls are 1500 all night) are very similar to the better places in DG. If you really want to go to a high end place, I'll give you names and stuff.

Macau is a bit different. First of all, there's the gambling. If you like casinos, then that's a draw by itself. Second, saunas in Macau have an international flavor. You can get everything from Vietnamese, Mongolian, Russian, Korean, Malay, Japanese, Ukrainian, Chinese and more. Saunas in Macau also tend to be a bit more.... I don't know..... out in the open? At some places girls parade around where all the guys hang out and stuff unlike in China where you wait in a room and they bring a lineup. There's also the Lisboa thing. Once the novelty of the girls walking in a circle for hours wears off, it's nothing special. I didn't really get a chance to go to KTV in Macau. My friends and I would always gamble way into the early morning and then head to a sauna. A couple times we did go to discos and I saw some girls there. Be careful who you approach though. One time I went up to a girl who was somebody's wife. The guy wasn't so pissed, but his wife was and we almost got into a fight. Reason prevailed though when he saw he was outnumbered 3 to 1. It's a good thing he didn't know the famous "OWL ball kicking technique" or we would have been in trouble.
Thanks Moody, now I'm going to skip SZ and maybe check out ZhuHai and Macau. Sounds like BBS crackdowns are going to force me to check out those places. Darn, somebody never paid the gov.

Dan Hawaii
12-10-07, 21:54
Dan,

In addition New Century has about 200 ladies. Hui Hua pricing
PP Club KTV has at least 250 ladies. 2/5/8 Girls are looser
Walter KTV 5 to 7 range. Moderate pricing. Girls are willing to please.
Crown Prince Girls wear cheongsams. Top dollar and maybe best in area. It is in Huangjiang.
Miraton MBA Club Moderate fun loving girls

That's all we have. WaikikiBob
Thanks Waiks,
I have not been to those places, except Crown Prince. I did not mention that one because it is kind of farther away. There are around 200 girls there and are around 8 in quality, moderately high pricing. The real attraction is the show and it is a 5 star hotel.

Goodview is also a winner with a 300 hall of girls, high pricing, 6 star hotel. But really far from CP, like 50 minutes drive. Quality of girls is 8. Minus as well stay at Goodview hotel while there. The drive is kind of a turn off for the girls, and may negatively affect the party atmosphere in the KTV room.

I heard PP is a good fun place, cheap and party girls there. Never went though, maybe next time. I know you know the mama there. Maybe I'll hit you up for her contact info again.

Dan Hawaii
12-10-07, 22:13
By the way, where is Versailles?

Cheers,

Goreng Pisang
Versailles and Amazon is the same ktv. It is down the road of Jia Yi. If you are facing Jia Yi's entrance, go right down the road, until there is a sharp left, then you are there.

Old Mean Dog
12-11-07, 04:10
versailles and amazon is the same ktv. it is down the road of jia yi. if you are facing jia yi's entrance, go right down the road, until there is a sharp left, then you are there.

i thought versailles is the hotel and amazon is the ktv, or was i that drunk i didn't realize.

thought the lobby of the versailles is nice, the rooms (at least the ones we had) sucked, with paint peeling off the walls and cigarette burns in the furniture.

-cpe

Dan Hawaii
12-11-07, 04:40
[QUOTE=Goreng Pisang]

I will assume you have never met Dan.

Think of Dan as a sex junkie and his preferred drug is KTV.

The only time Dan slows down on banging Chinese girls is when he's sleeping and eating and I would safely bet there would still be a girl beside him.

-CPE
Geez CPE, I'm not lucky like you, you live there!!! I have to make time to travel there, and I'm forced to come back home. Travelling there takes me 23 hours, flight, check-in, waiting, delays, train, stopovers, taxis, etc... So when I do make the time to go out of my way and travel for 23 hours, I'm sure as hell going to make it worth my while. That means banging 3 girls a day or as many as I physically can. And when I physically can not, I start popping all kinds of vitamin V, Vitamin C, generics, and the sort. It takes a toll on ones body, so I have to get massages everyday and eat and sleep a lot to keep up my strength. It's so stressful that I have to drink a 12 pack of beer everynight just to unwind. So minus well, drink and get girls at the same time, to save time. And the only place is a KTV. It's out of necessity to go to the KTV, not by choice. What a hard life I have in CP. :).

I concur about the Versailles being the hotel and Amazon being the KTV. Just did not want to confuse the guy more.

OldAsiaHand
12-11-07, 04:53
[QUOTE=Goreng Pisang]

I will assume you have never met Dan.

Think of Dan as a sex junkie and his preferred drug is KTV.

The only time Dan slows down on banging Chinese girls is when he's sleeping and eating and I would safely bet there would still be a girl beside him.

-CPE

Dan is the only guy I know that takes his KTV date to the Night Market to look for more talent.

Dan Hawaii
12-11-07, 04:57
darn, somebody never paid the gov.
maybe it's our fault these crack downs are occuring. we thought the mommies was trying to rip us off, asking for 250 rmb (total) at yalan bbs. that extra 50 was to take care of "the peeps". sorry guys my bad. ;)

Dan Hawaii
12-11-07, 05:07
[QUOTE=CPExpat]

Dan is the only guy I know that takes his KTV date to the Night Market to look for more talent.
Hahahaha, guilty as charged. I thought the grass would be greener there and wanted to spend time with "the boys. Nah, the real reason....... I did not know where the night market was. :)

KTV girl, she did not seem to mind going to her old working place. Or she wanted to get an application to work there in the future; I like a girl who is career oriented and thinks ahead for her future.

Fast Eddie 48
12-11-07, 05:37
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Hahahaha, guilty as charged. I thought the grass would be greener there and wanted to spend time with "the boys. Nah, the real reason....... I did not know where the night market was. :)

KTV girl, she did not seem to mind going to her old working place. Or she wanted to get an application to work there in the future; I like a girl who is career oriented and thinks ahead for her future.Dan,

I have done that once long time ago pick up a ktv girl at Lion for overnighter but want a double fly so I pick up another bbs girl at half the cost save some rmb turn out the bbs girl is offer better service .

Fast eddie 48

Santa
12-11-07, 08:28
The Night Market was closed again last night at 11pm "because of the police". Shutters and doors closed, no girls on the street.

Contrary to earlier reports there have been no price increases in CP. Back of HuiMei area is still 150. Night Market is still 150. Yalan is still 200. The 3 shops where the big tree is are still trying to charge 250, especially the room on the far right, but they quickly come down to 200 when you start to walk. Also, the girls I've had from that shop have given me very bad service.

Nakameguro97
12-11-07, 18:30
First of all, I'd like to thank all you veterans who posted some amazing, and entertaining reports on the Dongguan thread. I plead guilty to losing many nights of sleep, not being able to "find the right time to stop". Well, it's time to pay back with a nice long post for the noobs.

After weeks and weeks of RTFF, I decided to crash in Kowloon for one night (as my flight didn't arrive at HKIA until 11:30PM on SUN night). I directed a cabby to the Triumphal Arch Sauna. WTF. I was the only one there! Well, after paying HK404 and being "legitimately massaged" by a 5. 5, at least I managed to learn something from her. Shenzhen is sucking the life out of HK. All the mongers have evacuated across the border. No duh for all you expats who live here, but as a visitor, I did not realize it was so severe. Well, I got up, naturally, at 6:30AM, tipped the towel boy, and tried to ask him how to get to Shenzhen by train. It was quite challenging as he spoke no Mandarin nor any English and I spoke no Cantonese. Thought I had to get to Hong Hum station, but both the towel boy and the massage girl laughed at me. Well, that was enough for me to understand that if I walked around the corner, I could find a station. Well, the reason I didn't get the fact that Mong Kok East was right there was my map was out of date. You should use this one: http://www.hongkongairport.com/eng/mtrmap.html After a few minutes of confusion, it dawned on (no duh) that to get to Shenzhen, I need to choose to go to Lok Ma Chau or Lo Wu. I went to Lok Ma Chau as that was the first train. Immigration on the HK side took a couple minutes, walk over to the China side, and immigration takes another few minutes. Voila. I am in Shenzhen. BTW, you can find ATMs right at the station. Worked fine with a Citibank card.

First Impression? Damn, this place is clean (at least brand-spankin' new) compared to HK. No funky smells. So far. Next, I had to ask an officer for advice for getting to The Shenzhen Landmark Hotel. The Shenzhen Metro Network, orders of magnitude simpler than the Tokyo Subways, showed that all I had to do was get to Huizhanzhongxin and transfer once to get to Luohu. Yes, that's when I realized that I should have taken Lo Wu instead of Lok Ma Chau. But the scenic route was quite interesting for this first-timer. http://www.urbanrail.net/as/shen/shenzhen. Htm Took a cab and got to The Shenzhen Landmark. WTF. The bathroom is bigger than some apartments in Tokyo! Did a 5 minute bee-line for the area behind Seibu. Did a 6. 5 for RMB150 upstairs and later that night, a 7. 5 for the same. All the good ones appear to be in one shop. I have done the deed in dirty places before, but it didn't strike me as how DANGEROUSLY dirty those BBS were until later on, I was trying to clean a stain off my jacket that came from hanging it up. I suddenly realized if I had a cut or a rash, there is a high likelihood of catching some nasty infection as bad or worse than something a careless monger may catch. Before leaving the Landmark (soon to be renamed the Crowne Plaza Hotel), I decided to try their discounted (I think 1/2 price) RMB538 legitimate spa treatment. Both the massage and the aromatherapy wrap were excellent. Tuesday morning, I asked the concierge for the train station to Tangxia as the Goodview Tangxia was my next stop. His reply? Take the bus for RMB28 (come to think of it, was it really that cheap? ! ? ). Who am I to argue with a local after my experience in Kowloon? In about an hour, I was within striking range as I saw names familiar after hours spent scouring the ISG: Golden Lake Hotel and a few other names, I decided to pop off the next hotel and cab it in. Turned out that I was in a negotiated-car-only-zone (luckily, I had read about this earlier in my RTFF sessions so it wasn't that big a shock. Just tried to be cautious). I asked the hotel staff and they said it should be around RMB20 for 20min. Damn Dongguan is big! Guy outside approaches me and offers RMB40 so I walk away and he offers RMB30 and says no one will go lower than 35. I walk for one minute and a new guy offers me RMB30. I take it. In about 25min, I am at the Goodview Tangxia.

The approach to the Goodview reminds me of some luxury resorts in Okinawa and Hawaii, but this hotel is sitting next to a lake in an industrial area of Dongguan. Hmm. Nevertheless, a very impressive-looking hotel. Spent some time looking around the place and taking a swim in the pool, waiting for the 7PM KTV bar-time. Couldn't wait any longer so I asked the bellboy, Otis, for help. He sends a petit 8 and a busty 7 to my room for 600 ST and 800 LT, which sounded kind of high to me, but I was in a hurry. I took the 8 for 600 ST. The service was about a 6. What's even worse, afterwards, she asked for 300 for the bellboy. WTF? ! ? I told her I would pay him directly later. What would happen if I don't pay him? What do the veteran mongers suggest that should do?

Had a late dinner and headed for the KTV bar for a beer at around 7:15. ISG reports were right. Lots of quantity, but not much quality. Went back to study a bit and realized that I should check out the action in the 1F Sauna. Watch out as the 2F Spa is legit and heavily advertised. Don't end up in the "unintended place". 398 for a room, but I had to wait. When I asked for how long, the reception worked a little harder and got me to 2F right away. A manager brought me into a small room with a stone table, a glass shower, a toilet, a bed, and a steam sauna, all very tastefully designed. She asks me what type I like and I told her thin is better. In a couple minutes, in comes a 17yo 9. 5 from up north (maybe Harbin? ) and an older 8. Kaching! Jackpot. I have to say that I was pretty amazed about some of the things she did with fire and with her tongue and with the rest of her (all separately). #228. Her wanting to watch TV was a little annoying, but her attitude was so casual and GFE-like that it didn't bother me too much. Damage: 500 for the girl. Service: 9 Attitude: 10 Face: 9. 5 Body: 9 Overall: 9. 5 Once again, I must agree with the recent reports: the quality at Tangxia Goodview is at the Sauna, not at the KTV. In a word, AWESOME. I am not prone to exaggerate, but I have to say, this was probably one of the best, if not the best mongering experiences I have had.

. Which is quite appropriate as I think it is almost time that I get hitched and retire from mongering. I was planning to stay at the Goodview on WED night and then head for the Dongguan Crown Prince for THU and FRI, before leaving for home on SAT, but I will prolly stay at the Goodview for the rest of the week.

More reports to come. But not many more: 3 nights left.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Erik
12-11-07, 19:55
Dan,
300 hall of girls, my god, I'd really like to see that. Anyone could take a discreet photo and post here her ? That must be an amazing scene !
I never witnessed anything like this, even in Thailand.
Thanks

Bnlee2
12-11-07, 21:28
Dan,
300 hall of girls, my god, I'd really like to see that. Anyone could take a discreet photo and post here her ? That must be an amazing scene !
I never witnessed anything like this, even in Thailand.
Thanks

Yes Erik, there are not just one but quite a few places like that. Some even sports more than 300. A few years back there was a place with atleast 500 on a weekend evening. There are more than a few places with such 300+ lineups. As for the pics here is my take on it.

You could try to pull your digital camera out and flash a few pics. you could find this at quite a few of the ktvs' in the area. some even have more than 300. If you pull a camera out and take a few flash, no fewer than half a dozen guys will converge on you and beat the shit out of you and then ask you why did you take them pics.

A few years ago, a few pics of Amazon ktv hall of gals appear on a local HK magazine and the cops came down on them. not a pretty site. So Erik, be my guest and take a few pics but before doing that ask a senior member that is known to be able to kick half a dozen guys balls in a flash first on how to fend off these security guys that will be coming out of nowhere. Practice on a few dummies and then go and try to take a few digital pics for some of the newbies to see.

btw,,, if you do not survive, we will be chatting about you for the next month about the guy that tried to take a few photos. We will all gather for a celebrated wake for you at one of these ktvs' and sing song for your glorious memory. I may even buy a few round of drinks in your honor.

The 300 girls lineup really is only for your eyes. I have seen the Nevada cathouses and these lineup put those Nevada cathouses to shame.

ciao... good luck with the pics.. here is another thought... put on your Nikes , flash the pics and run like heck outta there. if you tell me what hotel you will be staying... i will send over a few medics just in case a few of them catch up with you.

Logos
12-11-07, 22:25
this afternoon, feeling horny after a few pussyfree hours, i ventured outside the hotel with loso and we were immediately accosted by a young sexy mommy with a slight scar that gave character to a beautiful face. she led us to her place of business, an appartment in a block 2' away from the hotel.

as usual selection was tricky. whatever the place they always try to dump the ugly ones on you first in the vain hope to get rid of them for the day. with laowai they must imagine we all want fat, big boned girls with ugly skin, so they systematically throw us the tall chubby moustached ones first. "look, this one has real tits"

as hilary would say, "just say no". i manage to explain that there are cows aplenty where we come from, that brings a knowing smile to their faces, they'll quickly understand you mean business and they'll start throwing cuties at you.

in this case as loso69 was leaving in a couple hours and had packed all his gear, he couldn't possibly select one. i am never one to let a mommy down so i obliged and took 2 for myself. those 2 single-handedly (figure of speech..) managed to get through a full day's condom supply in about 2 hours.

let's see what imagevenue generates... the uploaded pics are pretty big so careful if you have a slow connection and click on the links.

Logos
12-11-07, 22:31
Ooops - the links deformed the page, sorry about that.

FYI everything back to normal at the night market. Even late last night (1:30 am) things were back in gear it seems. The police car was still around but that didn't deter the mommies nor the girls from showing up and the selection was quite decent.

Tonight got an excellent one from there at around 12:30, right under the nose of 2 cops in their police car. I'll post some pics if there's an option for posting more than one at a time on this site.

Goreng Pisang
12-12-07, 03:13
Ooops - the links deformed the page, sorry about that.

FYI everything back to normal at the night market. Even late last night (1:30 am) things were back in gear it seems. The police car was still around but that didn't deter the mommies nor the girls from showing up and the selection was quite decent.

Tonight got an excellent one from there at around 12:30, right under the nose of 2 cops in their police car. I'll post some pics if there's an option for posting more than one at a time on this site.Where is the night market?

Goreng Pisang
12-12-07, 03:16
Versailles and Amazon is the same ktv. It is down the road of Jia Yi. If you are facing Jia Yi's entrance, go right down the road, until there is a sharp left, then you are there.Thanks buddy!