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Raptors
04-11-09, 10:31
Ha Ha Ha! ROFLMAO

Yes I know which days they are really closed. But Fornic8 reported best to go there 14th. Not sure who was conning who.

Yok day off has changed to Thursday. May have been Wed before. Actually Canyon will agree he had a problem because Yok was taking a lot of days off due to private reasons. But that was 3 weeks ago. Will cost the girl 3000 for a non standard day off so she will certainly only do that with strong reasons, unless has medical certificate or something very powerful like death in the family.

No one can work every day! There are always things to be organised in your life apart from work. E. G. Moving house, health insurance, birthdays, spend time with family, etc.

However, Saeng is a business woman and may tend to accept bookings for girls even on their day off, which can give them hassles if they had something else planned. The girl could even have to BF herself to be absolutely assured of gettting her day off entirely.

Obviously Yok was working yesterday (Friday) based on Pita123 report.

Perhaps you know something that you are not saying outright!

As the staffing at Tulip gradually changes over time, the superstar girls day off may change too.

The top superstars do not get day off on same day and certainly not on a weekend day.

The management tries to ensure the right balance of superstars present to meet demand levels.

This is then stuffed up somewhat by any all day bookings.

But these are relatively rare due to 3000 barfine for the whole day. Makes Soi 33 BFs seem cheap!

Many Tulip girls may have been accepting work on their day off recently due to the coming Songkran break, having no income for a few days.Yep I know that sometimes bookings get made for her days off and they don't like it but they do. But worse is then that they still have to pay 3000 pesos if they want to take another day off. No compensation. And I agree they have to take days off. For certain things. Yes they make nice money. But it is also a very tough job I mean 11. 12 hours days 6 days a week at least hmmm. And future is also very bleak if you are not good with your money you earn as a superstar. The rest with you write Soap fan I am aware. Of it.

Fornic8
04-11-09, 14:54
The 10-13 holiday reprted earlier was a paper sign hung last week. On my visit yesterday was told by Mamasan it is now 13-16. I have a full report about taking my favorite girl and one of the maids for a 3som coming soon.


Ha Ha Ha! ROFLMAO

Yes I know which days they are really closed. But Fornic8 reported best to go there 14th. Not sure who was conning who.

Yok day off has changed to Thursday. May have been Wed before. Actually Canyon will agree he had a problem because Yok was taking a lot of days off due to private reasons. But that was 3 weeks ago. Will cost the girl 3000 for a non standard day off so she will certainly only do that with strong reasons, unless has medical certificate or something very powerful like death in the family.

No one can work every day! There are always things to be organised in your life apart from work. e.g. moving house, health insurance, birthdays, spend time with family, etc.

However, Saeng is a business woman and may tend to accept bookings for girls even on their day off, which can give them hassles if they had something else planned.
The girl could even have to BF herself to be absolutely assured of gettting her day off entirely.
Obviously Yok was working yesterday (Friday) based on Pita123 report.

Perhaps you know something that you are not saying outright! :)

As the staffing at Tulip gradually changes over time, the superstar girls day off may change too.

The top superstars do not get day off on same day and certainly not on a weekend day.

The management tries to ensure the right balance of superstars present to meet demand levels.

This is then stuffed up somewhat by any all day bookings.

But these are relatively rare due to 3000 barfine for the whole day. Makes Soi 33 BFs seem cheap!

Many Tulip girls may have been accepting work on their day off recently due to the coming Songkran break, having no income for a few days.

Fornic8
04-11-09, 18:20
Friday 10am at work reading ISG. This new Geisha girl Guitar looks interesting. I Call to get a booking for lunch time. The girl answering says "Guitar available 3 oclock" and I say "OK".

I change my lunch schedule and arrive at Geisha at 2:45. The georgous mamasan greets me and when I tell her I make 3:00 booking with Guitar she says that phrase knows by all Thais "just a moment please" and motions for me to have a seat on one of the cow spoted sofas. She the gets on her mobile and has a heated convrasation before coming over and telling me that Guitar will be here in 10min. I tell her not a problem as I an 15min early. After 10nim mamasan looks up at the clock, picks up her mobile and has another heated talk with someone. She comes back over and says 5min and I say again "no problem". I am looking around and wondering why I am waiting for Guitar at all. The other girls are goregus. Soda is there looking great in regular clothes (I suspect she has front desk duties and took my call this morning) and Nisha is an absolute stunner in a kimono, but I came for Guitar. 10min later another look at the clock and phone call. A girl brings my third glass of tea and mamasan says 5min and actually goes out the door to look down the street. Finally at 3:20 I as her "what is going on"? Che comes over and tells me Guitar is alaways late for work. She says "I take her pays but she stills comes late" I then ask her why she booked me for 3:00 if Guitar is that way. She then turns it on me and says "Why you don't call back to confirm booking"? WTF. She is now blaming me for her superstar being late for work. She said one of her girls took my booking this morning and didn't know about her tardiness. Mamasan went back to the counter and I picked up my mobile and called Tulip to book my regular girl. I suspect the she overheard my convrasation. At 3:25 I stood up and told mamasan I simply connot wait any longer. She started to give me some attitude and I responded with a couple of "fuck you's" at which point she said something that I would have expected at any other establishment for being treated so poorly. She said "I am sorry". Pitty though as I think Guitar might have been an enjoyable fuck.

Down the soi and into to a taxi I was at Tulip in 5min. Thanks to the red shirts there was no traffic on Suk.

More to come; my freakiest experience at Tulips ever.

Fornic8
04-11-09, 19:22
in the taxi i call the office to say i wan't be coming back. i walk in tulip and chat with seang for a bit before she calls my favorite girl (who i will call my girl "mg" for now) up and we are off to the top floor for two hours of fun. while mg is off getting her toy box the house girl comes in with my water and pepsi. i learned not to undress untill after this as it is pretty embarrising when the shy maid opens the door and you are there naked. i usually tip a 20bt or 50bt note but today the smallest i has was a 100. i handed it to her and gave her a peck in the cheek. she looked up at me and gave a little smile that turned my half hard-on into a fully raging one. i got to thinking. mg came back and i asked her if the house girl can join is a be her helper. she said "i don't know, she never been with a falong before. i go ask seang". while she is gone i begin to wonder if fucking a nonp4p girl in a p4p place is a good idea. 5min later mg and helper show up at the room. my girl says it is ok if helper can just watch and play. ok with my. we all three strip for the shower. helper speecks no english but i tell her she is beautiful anyway. she keeps looking at mg's body and looks a little uncomfortable so i start to kiss her gently and sit her down on the bed. i kiss down her chest, belly, and end up at this lovely big bush. her pussy hair is at least 10cm long. i gently push her legs aside and did my best to make an honest woman out of her. her pussy tasted incredable. none of that disinfected washed 6 times a day p4p pussy but a wet musk tasting one that reminded on the young kimchi girls i used to fuck in seoul. i look over at my girl and she is holding helpers hand and giving me a smile of approval. after a orgasm from helper we all all three of to the shower. we are all having fun with the soap when mg gets down and swallows me whole. helper is watching and giving me dfk. we get out, dry off, and i lay on the bed. helper sits beside beside and mg starts on a bbbj. helper lays her head on my chest to watch and more dfk. helper doesn't speak english so i ask mg to ask her if she wants to try. they change positions and helper starts on a gfe bbbj. not the pse from other tulip girls but a soft and warm slow one that made me want to come in 10 seconds. i held back not wanting to scare he with a mouth of white stuff so i asked mg to switch again. i want helper to see so i start jerking as my girl sticks her toung out. i shoot so hard that it some splash off her tung and onto helper. she doesn't seem to mind. more dfk and then helper climbs on top of me. mg helps with the condom and helper starts to gently ride me. mg excused herself to go to the bathroom and i have a good gfe with helper. whe mg returns we all take a shower and i ask mg to tell helper thank you and that she could go have a break. she dressed, we kissed, and said goodby. now i looked at mg and told her i was sorry for not giving her enough attention. we used the last 30min of the session to make up for that. while getting dressed i asked mg how much i should tip helper. mg said "i told her 2000bt" so in suspect fs was on the table the whole time. mg said helper was from the same village as her and came to bbk to work at tulip as a house girl. she said helper was afraid of falongs and i was her first one. i don't know about this but i feel she might have been involved in some sort of p4p before. maybe thai if she is afraid of falongs.

we go down and seang is still at the desk. she asked me how was everything and i told her helper is sweet and nice and might be ready for the tulip training program. she then told me that helper was scared of falong and i was her first. maybe she thought all of us were hige dicks like nicfrenchy, but i dispelled that myth. i asked saeng if i could book helper on my next visit and she said she would have to talk to helper and let me know after songkron.

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Fornic8
04-13-09, 02:46
OK.

I has a three way with one of the maids at Tulip.


Fornic8,

Maybe one day you will learn how to write properly, then maybe I'll read your reports. For now, all I see is something that resembles a camel Turd in the middle of the page.

Daddy San
04-14-09, 09:10
In the taxi I call the office to say I wan't be coming back. I walk in Tulip and chat with Seang for a bit before she calls my favorite girl (who I will call my Girl "MG" for now)
.....snip....
MG came back and I asked her if the house girl can join is a be her helper. She said "i don't know, she never been with a falong before. I go ask Seang".
....snip...
While getting dressed I asked MG how much I should tip helper. MG said "I told her 2000bt"so In suspect FS was on the table the whole time.
.....snip....


I know, that the helper, being a 'semi-virgin' would merit a higher than normal remuneration.
I was under the impression, that a standard Tulip performance was still only 1500THB, though I always give Dow etc. 2000THB and they seem quite happy. That's why I find the helper's fee quite high.
Please comment on the current appropriate Tulip prices, excluding Yok, whose fees probably have exploded due to the current hype and the resulting demand.

M P Lurker
04-14-09, 10:19
I know, that the helper, being a 'semi-virgin' would merit a higher than normal remuneration.
I was under the impression, that a standard Tulip performance was still only 1500THB, though I always give Dow etc. 2000THB and they seem quite happy. That's why I find the helper's fee quite high.
Please comment on the current appropriate Tulip prices, excluding Yok, whose fees probably have exploded due to the current hype and the resulting demand.
Daddy,

The girls are not officially allowed to set their own prices.
But clearly some sort of discussion is warranted for an all night or 24 hour booking to reach a fair price.

If the girl doesn't want to go for the night, she will probably simply ask for far too much money and expect the customer to change his mind. At the opposite end of the scale, if she desperately wants to go, she might not set a price and just say "up to you" if she trusts the customer to be fair.

Single session Special is still 1.5K for all girls. Is just that the superstars are busier with more customers. But some people like yourself may think a superstar performance could get extra, regardless as to whether the girl is officially known as a superstar or not. I pay a little more because I go extra time. Extra time=extra work=extra money in my opinion.

I am hearing that some of the newbie girls are performing like superstars already.

I also doubt that a helper with no experience is going to be worth as much as a superstar. Especially with big bush and not so fragrant pussy. But its fantasy value I guess.

I once had a serving girl (waitress) from a bar, who had been BFed before, for dinner or dancing, but supposedly had never gone for boom boom with a customer.
Drunk she was O.K. in bed but sober in the morning, she was pretty boring. The inhibitions took over.
Not worth repeating.

Fornic8
04-14-09, 17:40
Daddy San,

All MP girls at Tulip charge 1. 5K for a FS session. None have asked for more nd I have never been given a dissapointing look for paying that amount. I routinely tip my regular girls more.

"Helper" is not a MP girl. She is a house girl that brings your drinks, changes your dirty sheets, and cleans your cum stains off the walls. For this I suspect she is paid 10-15K a month. I went into this session by asking her and Seang if she could play a little. Money was not mentioned. When I asked My Girl what she thougt about her tip, I was planning to pay the 2K anyway. If you saw the look on her face when I tipped her you would know it was worth it.

'Semi-Virgin'? I enjoyed her style but doubt she is close to virgin. She is not finger tight like those day shift Playskool girls. Her BJ and FS skills were a bit prinitive. Maybe she got her sex education from her stepfather, uncle, cousin in Iisan.





I know, that the helper, being a 'semi-virgin' would merit a higher than normal remuneration.
I was under the impression, that a standard Tulip performance was still only 1500THB, though I always give Dow etc. 2000THB and they seem quite happy. That's why I find the helper's fee quite high.
Please comment on the current appropriate Tulip prices, excluding Yok, whose fees probably have exploded due to the current hype and the resulting demand.

Fornic8
04-14-09, 18:05
Mp Lover,

Thanks for the info on Guitar. I have lived here long enough to know about "Thai Time". To some of us that work and live here my (free) time is worth far more that what I spend in a MP. Being late is not the problem, being lied to is.

Once I booked Tulip Yok a day prior for a noon session on what I learned later was not her early day. She was 20min late beacuse of traffic. They were upfront about it and even had another girl sit and talk with me until Yok arrived. When she did arrive, she apologised ane we went directly upstairs. No damage done.

At Geisha both mmmamasan and Guitar lied. Mamasan kept telling me 10min, 10min. When I asked her why she looked out the door, she said Guitar told her she was walking down the alley (never to be seen).

Maybe Mamasan is new and inexperienced or Guitar is just a young irresponsible girl still living on IIsan rules. Either way I won't be going back anytime soon. Pity because there are so many other hot looking girls there but I just don't want to talk to Mamasan again.


Yes you should have changed to Soda, after Guitar was far too late.

It turns out that Guitar has been getting fined a lot for lateness.

She lives over other side of ChaoPhraya river in district called PhraPinKlao. The red shirts have caused her a great deal of problems with her taxi caught in severe traffic jams. Sometimes the direct route can be a very bad idea depending on time of day and where the red shirt demonstrations are.

I suggested to her to use taxi or motorcycle to get to Saphan Taksin BTS station and then BTS from there could potentially avoid a lot of the problems. She replied that she had only been in BKK 4 months, knew nothing at all and had never tried the BTS at all.

Thais have a very bad habit. When it can be determined that the min possible wait is 30 mins, they will tend to tell you only 10 mins for some extraordinary reason. I have never managed to find Thais honest about expected delays.

However, as Guitar doesn't know BKK well at all, she would not know herself, how much longer. She would have to ask the taxi driver, and he would likely lie as well, icn case she wanted to get out and switch to motorbike.

M P Lurker
04-17-09, 16:14
I believe many MP places that were closed will open tomorrow Sat 18th April, e.g. Tulip should be open.

Fornic8
04-19-09, 19:07
Went to Tulip Sunday morning at 11:00am, mainly to see my new house girl friend there. Learned that she had indeed crossed over to the dark side. "Helper" is now officially a MP girl but has a "sick pussy" so her debut is delayed a week. She needs that week anyway to get fitted for her new track suit and (hopefully) get her medical check. For a minute I felt a little guilty about her new career move as I was her first farong and recommended her to Saeng.

Suprisingly, Dow was there and unbooked. Dow was my first Tulip girl and I haven't seen her since, so I took her upstairs. Last time I had a crazy PSE session with her but this time she seemed a little distracted. No BBBJ in the shower and on the bed I caught her yawning twice during DITY. I actually had to "ASK" for a BBBJ. I know YMMV, but I get much better service from some of the less known Tulip girls.

Half way through the session Dow tells me a new girl named Cherry started today. Dow asks if I want a 3way but my time is half over and I am already spent. I suspect Dow wanted to check out the new girl more than me. At the end of the session Dow asked me how many Tulip girls I have been with and if I had any new stories. Could she be reading my ISG posts?

Left the room and bumped into my newly promoted house girl. She was in street clothes and not working. She confirmed the "sick pussy" story and told me I could be her first customer when she starts.

Got a look at the new girl Cherry downstairs. Tall and thin she looks like she might be worth a try.

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M P Lurker
04-20-09, 01:20
Suprisingly, Dow was there and unbooked. Dow was my first Tulip girl and I haven't seen her since, so I took her upstairs. Last time I had a crazy PSE session with her but this time she seemed a little distracted. No BBBJ in the shower and on the bed I caught her yawning twice during DITY. I actually had to "ASK" for a BBBJ. I know YMMV, but I get much better service from some of the less known Tulip girls.

Half way through the session Dow tells me a new girl named Cherry started today. Dow asks if I want a 3way but my time is half over and I am already spent. I suspect Dow wanted to check out the new girl more than me. At the end of the session Dow asked me how many Tulip girls I have been with and if I had any new stories. Could she be reading my ISG posts?Probably 1st day for Cherry after Songkran break. Surely there are not two cherries.

Dow is a good friend of Nestle and ALL the girls will know about you. YMMV

At least one ISG watcher at Tulip.

The Helper was probably always intending to become a full Tulip girl. Probably just checking if she could really do it.

Jp Traveller
04-20-09, 05:11
I had made a booking at Tulip before Songkran to see Yok on Sunday, but when I arrived Saeng told me that "Khun Yok had had accident during Songkran" and she did not know when she would be back. Rats! Had looked much forward to meeting the much talked about Yok.

But destiny rules, so I had a look at the book. Saeng seemed to be aware that I had set my hopes high, so she recommended Nestle. Keeping in mind the reviews I have seen of her on ISG I accepted.

That turned out to be a wise decision.

Nestle was very much in the mood. Or at least she definitely got there after some early DATY. Not that I had any complaints of her service during the shower and immediately afterwards, but there seemed to be a shift in attitude after her first orgasm (If she faked that, she is really good! )

A real slow and erotic GFE made me a very happy camper.

Fornic8
04-20-09, 11:35
This is part three in a girl going over to the dark side.

After Dow on Sunday morning I called back at 1:00pm to talk to Saeng about when Ann would start. She ways "when her pussy not sick anymore". "Call tomorrow" so this morning I called at 10: 30 and the desk girl said "Ann work today".

I booked for 12:00 and has a hard time sitting at my desk till that time. I arrive at Tulip and C (who first introduced me to Ann's body) gave me a little wink when I asked for Ann. First customer and up she came all made up and in her new track suit. This was a big change from the polo shirt and drink tray last time she was in the room with me. Up in the room more changes; lace underwear courtasy of Saeng and a newly shaved pussy.

She goes to get her brand new tool kit and the drimk girl arrives with my water. She says something in thai and smiles. Ann returnes and we never even made it to the shower untill half the two hour session was over. The girl is really sweet and GFE. She doesn't know enought about sex yet to be comsidered a porn star. We just fucked so hard for 1 3/4 hours and she and I were truely satisfied. I got up to shower and put a towel over her since the AC was cranking. When I got out she was sound asleep.

Later she told me again that I was her first Falong and she really liked me. If I was able, I would have pulled her out of the MP right there and have her live with me. I told her to be carefull as all her new customers my not be as nice.

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M P Lurker
04-20-09, 11:42
I had made a booking at Tulip before Songkran to see Yok on Sunday, but when I arrived Saeng told me that "Khun Yok had had accident during Songkran" and she did not know when she would be back. Rats! Had looked much forward to meeting the much talked about Yok.

Yok was back at work from today, so must have recovered I guess. Sporting a couple of bruises though. Maybe you will get another chance.

Nestle has a reputation for letting her mood show a little. So as the chemistry builds, the session gets better too as she is really getting into it.

I have known girls who were not so special for first session but really got much better in subsequent sessions.
But if chemistry is still not superb after 2 sessions, I usually give up.

Jp Traveller
04-20-09, 18:03
Yok was back at work from today, so must have recovered I guess. Sporting a couple of bruises though. Maybe you will get another chance. Well I DID as a matter of fact get another chance today.

I made a point of calling to Tulip first thing today, and lo and behold, she was back. Apparently it was a bathroom accident involving her head aside from the bruises you mention. Hospital has given her the OK though, so she should be good to go.

And I finally got to meet the famed Yok. She is very, very good indeed. Once she takes a liking to you (I would not know what happened if she didn't.) she is the perfect lover. Her mouth is all over you and her body never spends more than seconds away from yours. Kisses by the dozen. She has the perfect height to kiss and fuck at the same time. And did I speak about her body?

Initially I was taken aback that there was no BJ in the shower, but, my oh my, how she made up for it when we came to the bed.

Yok is probably the best lover I have ever enjoyed on a professional basis.

So I had Nestle one day and Yok the next. Be envious my friends, be envious.

I am not going into any comparisons. Only I will note what SF says:
Nestle has a reputation for letting her mood show a little. So as the chemistry builds, the session gets better too as she is really getting into it. This emotional part is very obviously there. Once she was turned on she was a very intense experience. She did a lot of wonderful things for me (Including fucking herself with my greased up big toe and a vibrating egg at her clit. Weirdest experience I ever had of an orgasm, I tell you. Weird and wonderful)

So maybe there was more latin emotional connection between me and Nestle, but Yok had technique par excellance. Maybe Nestle is the fast Alfa Romeo, which may not always run, but is a hoot to drive when it does and Yok is the 911 Porsche, which is dependable, has maybe just a tad less latin emotion but is hell of a ride.

Now look what happened. I gone ahead and compared anyway.

Probably many of you will disagree with my assessments and you will all be right. From your perspective of course.

Fornic8
04-22-09, 17:47
Well I DID as a matter of fact get another chance today.

I made a point of calling to Tulip first thing today, and lo and behold, she was back. Apparently it was a bathroom accident involving her head aside from the bruises you mention. Hospital has given her the OK though, so she should be good to go.

And I finally got to meet the famed Yok. She is very, very good indeed. Once she takes a liking to you (I would not know what happened if she didn't.) she is the perfect lover. Her mouth is all over you and her body never spends more than seconds away from yours. Kisses by the dozen. She has the perfect height to kiss and fuck at the same time. And did I speak about her body?

Initially I was taken aback that there was no BJ in the shower, but, my oh my, how she made up for it when we came to the bed.

Yok is probably the best lover I have ever enjoyed on a professional basis.

So I had Nestle one day and Yok the next. Be envious my friends, be envious.

I am not going into any comparisons. Only I will note what SF says: This emotional part is very obviously there. Once she was turned on she was a very intense experience. She did a lot of wonderful things for me (Including fucking herself with my greased up big toe and a vibrating egg at her clit. Weirdest experience I ever had of an orgasm, I tell you. Weird and wonderful)

So maybe there was more latin emotional connection between me and Nestle, but Yok had technique par excellance. Maybe Nestle is the fast Alfa Romeo, which may not always run, but is a hoot to drive when it does and Yok is the 911 Porsche, which is dependable, has maybe just a tad less latin emotion but is hell of a ride.

Now look what happened. I gone ahead and compared anyway.

Probably many of you will disagree with my assessments and you will all be right. From your perspective of course.Yes, JP Traveler we should all be envious. I am glad you are discovering Tulip.

Years ago I bought a small ranch in New Mexico U. S. A. After closing on the deal I was celebrating in a bar in town when an old Native American come up to me and said "You don’t own the land, the land owns you". "It will be still be there long after you leave".

I now feel that same way about Tulip.

I first started going to Tulip about a year ago after reading reports, much like yours, from the previous year. Most of these stories describe incredible sex acts like shower deep throats, toe fucking, rimming, and ass fucking.

A year before that others posted the same experiences after having discovered a newly opened MP called Tulip.

Go back past 2005 in other forums (Google is great) and you will find stories of Barons where Saeng, Dow, and Nestle, were giving the same PSE and GFE for the same price they do now.

Many of the regulars contributers to the Bangkok Massage Parlors thread have posted about their first time at Tulip. I would read all there stories and then go visit a particular girl that did so and so just to see if it was true. This February I had my first and only bad experience at Tulip. It pissed me off so much that I joined this forum to tell all. Since then I have posted more than 10 good stories and pictures about my experiences.

As far as the bad experience, a lot of factors were involved. I had just gotten of a plane from Singapore (another story in itself) and had way too many whiskey-cokes. I headed off to Tulip with the intention of blowing as much money, time, and wads as possible. My first session with June was enjoyable; my second with Jane was incredible. My third was with Nestle. I was already spent and Nestle said she was tired. She also had minor cosmetic surgery that day. She started to pull some attitude and I called the session off. What set me off was the reports I read about her in ISG. I was feeling slighted because I paid a prostitute to have sex with me and I did not get the same PSE treatment as others. We both went downstairs and in front of everyone I let it be known that I had not been satisfied and requested another girl for a forth session. Probably not the best face saving move for either of us.

When I reported this in ISG was when I got my real education. A few posters reported a similar experience with a "tired’ Nestle, but the majority retaliated against me. They called me troll, spy, and worse. One forum member even confronted Nestle with the story. I can just imagine that conversation – "Honey, this bad man says he paid you money for sex and you didn’t suck his dick. Tell me it isn’t so and I will tell everybody how good of a fuck you really are"

What I learned from this is that most ISG Tulip customers really care about these girls and some even put them up on a pedestal. I too have learned to have a great deal of respect for some Tulip girls and return to see my favorites often.

For now I am going to curtail my Tulip visits. I can’t give up mongering as I have spent more than my car payment for the last four years at MP’s but there are still many more MP’s to visit. I certainly don’t have the torch to pass but I wish you all the best luck.

I may never return to Tulip, but the memories will never be forgotten. I vividly remember Korean MP girls I fucked in Seoul 30 years so, I don’t think I will forget these girls. If Alzheimer’s kicks in I will just Google my old ISG pasts.

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Member #3428
04-22-09, 21:25
For now I am going to curtail my Tulip visits. I can’t give up mongering as I have spent more than my car payment for the last four years at MP’s but there are still many more MP’s to visit.

For reasons other then yours I've had to curtail my visits to Tulip. Which is not always a bad thing as there are some great locations.

HOWEVER... if you want multiple shots you are pretty much limited as to where you can go. Especially if you want 2 + shots. Many MP's and of course the soapies want to try to limit you at one shot until you build up a relationship with the girls and establishment. YMMV but that has always been my experience.

If you want guaranteed multiple shots no complaints or issues... as a newbie you pretty much are limited to where, Tulip, Eden, Annies.

Once you can build up relationships with girls in other places then you have more options, but for 90% of more of the readers they don't frequent BKK enough to build up these relationships.

Fornic8
04-23-09, 20:48
Anyone had a chance to check out the latest Tulip girl Ann?

I am curious to see how she is working out after her first week.

M P Lurker
04-24-09, 09:18
anyone had a chance to check out the latest tulip girl ann?

i am curious to see how she is working out after her first week.
i have heard of new girl ann (ant/mot) on the grapevine.

mot is the thai word for ant and is a common thai nickname but ant or ann is easier for farangs.
as thais do not pronounce ant properly, it sounds like ann (fairly short pronunciation).

Pita123
04-24-09, 09:29
Anyone had a chance to check out the latest Tulip girl Ann?

I am curious to see how she is working out after her first week.
I've been toying with the idea. Cute face!

Fornic8
04-25-09, 03:46
Had a beer with an old friend that recienly arrived in Bangkok. The topic of Tulip came up and he seemed interested. I gave him my Tulip card and a list of names (in order) to ask for. He stepped outside the bar to call and returned a few min later and said "Yok 6:00"

What? Yok available on Friday 6:00? I called back to confirm with Saeng. Yok, Dow, and C all there and not booked up. I make a booking with my girl just to make sure my friend is taken care of.

We arrive at 6:00 and chated up Saeng for a bit. She is wearing jeans, heels, and a short t-shirt that shows her lower back dimples. HOT. I talk about how good she looks and Saeng enjoys the complements. Wonder if there is any chance of me servicing her?

Saeng calls Yok and my girl from downstairs. My girl arrives first and I hang aroung to see my friends' reaction when he sees Yok. She starts up the stairs slowly with her head down. When she gets halfway up she passes out and collapses on the steps. I turn to Saeng, who is helping some Indian dude with the Photo book, and tell her Yok is down. She calls downstairs and three girls show up to carry Yok downstairs. My concern is Yok but my friend is now without a girl.

Saeng says Yok was sick yesterday but was working today. I ask if we can go downstairs and choose a new lady for my friend. She says sure without calling a lineup (that Indian dude was bieng a pain in the ass). We went down and I go behind the partition and see Yok lying on the floor. Another girl say "Yok OK". My friend chose Dow.

I hope Yok is really OK.

Michi
04-25-09, 16:26
Hi,

Went several times to Tulips, love the place.

But one thing still keeps bothering me and is disturbing my pleasure:

What they use for the massage part is oil actually, or not?

I keep worrying about broken condom with them every time as it is supposed to make it break. Especially in dark places.

Anyone can resolve this?

Or should we make an improvement proposal to Tulips?

Rgds,

Mike

Sweetpete
04-25-09, 16:26
Anyone had a chance to check out the latest Tulip girl Ann?

I am curious to see how she is working out after her first week.Ann was the room service maid you helped into a new career.

I won't open up both barrels but thought you might like to know some more details of the threesome with Cee and the Helper who is Ann.

Day after your post I had a quick lunch with a ex-Tulip friend.

(I Stopped going to Tulip about 3 months ago when I asked her what it like to really work there.)

She told me to fuck 5 to 8 girls who are fat, old, good looking many varieties every day for 3 months.

And push a banana up my ass for 1/2 hour 4 times aday.

Then let your boss tell you to let any customer do what they want including no condom's in any hole they want.

Thats what it was like to work at Tulip.

Battery hens of the sex industry.

This was her life, 6 days a week for many years.

She was a tulip top girl but has now left because her body could not take anymore.

The happy house of tulip has some secrets, and one I can't stand is the management who are as nice as pie to you but ask the girls to operate unsafely and fine them for ever little thing.

They even book guys on their days off so not to lose a phone booking.

Because a phone booking will be a repeat customer 99% of the time.

They work through their periods with sponges and dauce at management direction.)

2nd the place has been over exposed through the net and bragging sportsman and big game hunters who think having some great sex in the pay for play scene warrants camp fire story telling of legends and it now attracts some customers that would have never known about it.

The place was always going to do well without actually telling the world.

Had the pleasure of a African guy ask me what my girl was like in the waiting area as I cashed up at Christmas time. Wanted to know the details as he wanted to make sure he got a "good one".

Now back to Ann the ex room maid.

Fonica you didn't know this but when Cee went and asked her, she said no thank you but Seang then but preasure on her to do it. They uped the tip to 2000 to get her to try.

Thats why you got a 2000 baht request for the helper.

The managers seen another revenue source develop and told her on the spot she had a choice to make.

Every girl in Tulip thought the managers preasure on her sucked and has caused a little upset within the usually no questioning girls.

They know if they complain they will get shown the door and loose the earning potential of 40,000 baht plus per week.

My friend told me Seang is ok but Mook is hardened and is greatly disliked behind her back.

Tulip has some golden rules one is tell customers at all times your happy, horny and all is great at tulip's.

Anything else is heard back and its bye bye.

Any girl that leaves or gets a bye bye is said to have found a boyfriend.

Tulip's customer of course.

So Ann who joined as a room maid only was turned into a sex worker through preasure from the manager to service a regular customer.

She was also told after songkran to come back ready to start as a tulip girl sex service girl.

She comes from the country, is young, a little affraid of sex with foreign guys who come in all shape and sizes, ages and health habbits.

She needs the money and supports her family like most at tulip.

She has never had anal sex but will be expected to have up to 6 cocks in her ass in a busy day.

Many times a week.

So my point is if you see a girl who is not a sex worker, let her choose at her own pace her career path.

Your fantasy of turning a cleaning girl who is not down stairs in the book or in gym work out clothing should be just that.

Her life changed forever over a 100 baht tip.

Some things are sacred in life and some respect and class needs to be shown to non working girls.

99% of Thai woman are not working girls and have no desire to be.

I think have fun with the ones who are working girls but leave the ones who are not alone.

Sometimes we don't know really what goes on in places like tulip.

(Before you attack me as a first time poster I have been a member of this board before and just rejoined. I live in Bangkok and have done so for over 18 years.
I went to tulip on its first day of trading and was a regular untill recently.

Fornic8
04-25-09, 20:31
Swetepete,

Thanks for sparing both barrels. Let me try.

F*** Y** and your F***ing preaching.

Your information comes from a disgrunteled ex tulip girl ( if I can believe any of your story). You don't know Ann and have spoken said a word to her.

I spent the most part of two hours talking to her last night. She is OK and is OK with what she is doing. Ann is not one of those "A" personalities that can lie the company line like the old timers. She is really shy snd shows her emotions on her face. I can read her like a book.

When I first saw her, I didn't offer her money for sex. I asked if she could sit in on the session. Once in the room she was curious and it showed. I still never asked her to do anything and C didn't twist her arm.

I was her first customer as a MP girl and I asked her again if she was OK. I never did anything to her against her will. Maybe it is that she likes me, but she felt comfortable with what she was doing.

Last night we talked more than anything else. I told her if she wasn't happy to call me and I would take her out of there (permanently) any time she wanted.

Tulip isn't a prison. Girls can leave there anytime they want. Any Soi 33 or 24 MP would give them a job. Many girls are tricked into the P4P industry by promises of family loans or good jobs in the big city. With Ann this was not the case. We can all agree that P4P has a dark side, but I believe she is a big girl (she is 24 and far from virginal) and made the decision like 100,000's of other girls in Bangkok.

Ask your ex tulip girl how she got started and tell me how it is any different.


Ann was the room service maid you helped into a new career.

I won't open up both barrels but thought you might like to know some more details of the threesome with Cee and the Helper who is Ann.

Day after your post I had a quick lunch with a ex-Tulip friend.

(I Stopped going to Tulip about 3 months ago when I asked her what it like to really work there.)

She told me to fuck 5 to 8 girls who are fat, old, good looking many varieties every day for 3 months.

And push a banana up my ass for 1/2 hour 4 times aday.

Then let your boss tell you to let any customer do what they want including no condom's in any hole they want.

Thats what it was like to work at Tulip.

Battery hens of the sex industry.

This was her life, 6 days a week for many years.

She was a tulip top girl but has now left because her body could not take anymore.

The happy house of tulip has some secrets, and one I can't stand is the management who are as nice as pie to you but ask the girls to operate unsafely and fine them for ever little thing.

They even book guys on their days off so not to lose a phone booking.

Because a phone booking will be a repeat customer 99% of the time.

They work through their periods with sponges and dauce at management direction.)

2nd the place has been over exposed through the net and bragging sportsman and big game hunters who think having some great sex in the pay for play scene warrants camp fire story telling of legends and it now attracts some customers that would have never known about it.

The place was always going to do well without actually telling the world.

Had the pleasure of a African guy ask me what my girl was like in the waiting area as I cashed up at Christmas time. Wanted to know the details as he wanted to make sure he got a "good one".

Now back to Ann the ex room maid.

Fonica you didn't know this but when Cee went and asked her, she said no thank you but Seang then but preasure on her to do it. They uped the tip to 2000 to get her to try.

Thats why you got a 2000 baht request for the helper.

The managers seen another revenue source develop and told her on the spot she had a choice to make.

Every girl in Tulip thought the managers preasure on her sucked and has caused a little upset within the usually no questioning girls.

They know if they complain they will get shown the door and loose the earning potential of 40,000 baht plus per week.

My friend told me Seang is ok but Mook is hardened and is greatly disliked behind her back.

Tulip has some golden rules one is tell customers at all times your happy, horny and all is great at tulip's.

Anything else is heard back and its bye bye.

Any girl that leaves or gets a bye bye is said to have found a boyfriend.

Tulip's customer of course.

So Ann who joined as a room maid only was turned into a sex worker through preasure from the manager to service a regular customer.

She was also told after songkran to come back ready to start as a tulip girl sex service girl.

She comes from the country, is young, a little affraid of sex with foreign guys who come in all shape and sizes, ages and health habbits.

She needs the money and supports her family like most at tulip.

She has never had anal sex but will be expected to have up to 6 cocks in her ass in a busy day.

Many times a week.

So my point is if you see a girl who is not a sex worker, let her choose at her own pace her career path.

Your fantasy of turning a cleaning girl who is not down stairs in the book or in gym work out clothing should be just that.

Her life changed forever over a 100 baht tip.

Some things are sacred in life and some respect and class needs to be shown to non working girls.

99% of Thai woman are not working girls and have no desire to be.

I think have fun with the ones who are working girls but leave the ones who are not alone.

Sometimes we don't know really what goes on in places like tulip.

(Before you attack me as a first time poster I have been a member of this board before and just rejoined. I live in Bangkok and have done so for over 18 years.
I went to tulip on its first day of trading and was a regular untill recently.

NicFrenchy
04-26-09, 01:22
I went to tulip on its first day of trading and was a regular untill recently.

Very informative and interesting post SweetPete, Thanks :)

Just one thing, what made you stop going to Tulip?

Raptors
04-26-09, 01:48
Great post.

After also getting a little bit inside info. For me I have not gone there much. But I won't put the foot there again. In.

It is exactly how one poster says. They make a lot of money. But they have also take a lot of shit. Does risk and reward balance. I am not totally sure

And management treats the girls too bad. One day sickness costs the girls 3000 THB regardless if they are really sick or what, you come too late for whatever reason you get fined 1000 THB, or the day they are starting early it is a bit less. If you work on your day off for the shop and you take another day off you still pay 3000 THB and the list goes on and on

The pressure is very much on the girls to work when they are not well. So basically they not loose only all of their income but still have to pay the shop for being sick. That is sick in my opinion.

So the shop basically has a guaranteed income per girl of nearly 3. 000 THB at least for the superstars, sometimes even more, even if they don't work.

No wonder why tulip is so successfull. And this place still looks like a dump.

Raptors
04-26-09, 02:35
Ann was the room service maid you helped into a new career.

I went to tulip on its first day of trading and was a regular untill recently.just wanted to congratulate on your post. I am not an experienced mongerer. But to see such as post which brings a little bit of perspective/sense here in the discussions is very refreshing. I personally would also love to see some more critical discussions. Here if more often that not when you post something critical you get flamed or accused. I have made this experience on my own.

And some respect for these girls doesn't hurt us either. And we by far are certainly not so good as we always do. Right?

As I said I don't like Tulip much as place. There are great service girls there. But won't be going there anymore. But have the advantage that I don't live in Bangkok and come there only from time to time and can do outcall and I don't mind paying a little bit more. 200 baht more is peanuts. And it always gives you a better more relaxed atmosphere and most of all a much cleaner shower. The rooms at tulip are so dump. There are so much better and cleaner rooms at other shops.

Fornic8
04-26-09, 06:29
I am just saying Thursday was Yoks day off - so dont push here from the side - so Saeng just talked Bullsh*t to you.Raptors,

I am not pushing; just telling you what I saw. You are making assumptions too. Saeng was not bullshitting me. She just stated that Thrus Yok was sick and Fri yok was better (before she collapsed).

I don't get your other posts to Swetepete either. You state that you don't like Tulip, don't go there anymore, the place is dirty, the mngt treats the girls bad, but you are in daily contact with thier superstar.

Centaurus
04-26-09, 12:34
impossible.

according to reports on this board she is inseminated only in the [CodeWord116] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116) shoot.

that is unless all these reporters are liars, as suggested by another reporter.sorry, ralph, but this is a hate post.

i wonder what they did to you at tulip, that you are so angry about them... again.

Ralph Kramden
04-26-09, 13:54
Sorry to disappoint your psycho-babble Centaurus but I have never stepped foot in Tulip. To be honest I was just having fun with words. No harm, no foul. The only one who took any real exception to my post has a complex about one of the employees.

1Ball
04-26-09, 14:14
Interesting discussion about the girls at Tulip, and what they have to put up with, in order to keep their jobs.

I have always thought it was odd, that girls from MPs, Gogos, (not the superstars), but the run of the mill girls, who are the girls on the side, pushing for drinks, trying very hard to get BF’d, those who do not make a lot of money, are so worried about getting sick, taking a day off, due to the fine they have to pay, should they not show up for work for a day or two or three.

MPs and Gogos are everywhere. Why are they so worried, why don’t they just move to the next place, why do they scramble to pay the fine, in order to stay working where they are?

Obviously, girls like Yok etal, who are very famous, find themselves in a difficult position, knowing if they were to go to a new MP, even though they could call many regulars, it would take a while for word to get out as to where they are now working. But how about the girls who get 1 customer per day, or 4 -5 customers per week? How about the Gogo girls who barely meet their quota?

Furthermore, does anyone know if the Yoks of BKK can work their way around the fine for tardiness, sickness etc, due to their super star status, and the amount of money they generate for the owner?

Why not just move on, instead of paying a fine for being sick for 3 days? If these girls are barely making it, surely it makes sense to not be straddled with a hefty fine, just for the pleasure of working there. I know they have their friends there, etc, but is that enough of a reason to stay?

NicFrenchy
04-26-09, 16:26
Obviously, girls like Yok etal, who are very famous, find themselves in a difficult position, knowing if they were to go to a new MP, even though they could call many regulars, it would take a while for word to get out as to where they are now working.

I genuinly don't think so. Girls like YOK are so in demand that it does not MAtter which shop she works at, as long as she offers Tulip service (unlimited shots & Anal) she will be booked out for the whole day.

In fact, I would go as far as to say that YOK could be even more Popular in a place like Angel 24. The Japanese would queue to be with her and I am sure a lot of these guys would take her on holidays to Singapore or Hong Kong for weeks (which is what happends with the popular Kristin).

From YOK's point of view, it would also be a holiday because the Japanese are not very interested in Porn Marathons like us, but they love Anal and some other weird shit (as told me by my regular Angel girl) that I am sure Yok could do.

So all in all, I think that it would take no longer than a couple days for the YOK relocation to be known, with Tools like this Forum, the news would travel so fast...

TULIP is a great place as it offers a certain minimum SOP, but the superstars do not need the Shop anymore as their reputation (at least YOK and DAO) is already better then the shop.

Giotto
04-26-09, 18:32
I genuinly don't think so. Girls like YOK are so in demand that it does not MAtter which shop she works at, as long as she offers Tulip service (unlimited shots & Anal) she will be booked out for the whole day.
...
That's what i think, too.

And that's why I don't believe this salary cut story for sick leave in Tulips. Tulip needs Yok more than Yok needs Tulips.

Saeng knows that. Saeng was working in Barons before, and took the best girls out there to Tulips. I am quite sure that the superstars at Tulips will be treated well, and the management will not cut THB 3,000 for a sick leave day at all. The management will be happy for each day Yok works.

And guys - please spare me the part of "Yok has told me this" or "Yok has told me that". I got a shitload of mails AND PMs today after my joke about Yok being pregnant. I really couldn't believe it!

Guys - it was a simple joke. Yes, I am a real bad guy to joke about Yok. I am guilty. I will go to jail for that, guilty as charged. I should burn in hell !!!

It is ok to write positive reports about Yok. It is ok for everybody to go there and appreciate her services. But obviously it is not ok to make a simple joke about her being pregnant - something she might be happy about ... guys, some of you have completely lost it !


Giotto

PS: Come to Livingstone's Lodge tomorrow, and you will find me cruzified between the elephant tusks at the entrance :) ...

Fornic8
04-26-09, 18:49
Swetepete,

I reread your post and realized that it is not completely an assination of my character.

Still, you take many liberties with me, Ann, and Tulip.

Since this is your first post I feel I have to call you on some of your statements.


Day after your post I had a quick lunch with a ex-Tulip friend.. You have a quick lunch with your Ex tulip GF and have time to talk about me. I am flattered


(I Stopped going to Tulip about 3 months ago when I asked her what it like to really work there.)

She told me to fuck 5 to 8 girls who are fat, old, good looking many varieties every day for 3 months.

And push a banana up my ass for 1/2 hour 4 times aday..

You state to be a regular since day 1. Tulip opened in 2006, so it took you 2.5 years to realize this? You thought all your sessions there the girls upened up thier ass to you because you are a hansum man? Get a grip about learming this three months ago.


Then let your boss tell you to let any customer do what they want including no condom's in any hole they want..

This is not my experience there. Gop has been there since the beginning. She won't take off her panties without a condom in one hand and a tissue in the other.


This was her life, 6 days a week for many years..

Tulip opened in 2006. How do define "many years". Before that some girls migrated over from Baron's which had different managment.


She was a tulip top girl but has now left because her body could not take anymore..

I can't recall any "top" girl who has been there "many years" who left reciently except Poo who got married.



They even book guys on their days off so not to lose a phone booking.

Because a phone booking will be a repeat customer 99% of the time..
I have called many times for a next day booking and told "day off". this includes superstars and nonsuperstars



They work through their periods with sponges and dauce at management direction.). Can't say I have ever run across this


Fonica you didn't know this but when Cee went and asked her, she said no thank you but Seang then but preasure on her to do it. They uped the tip to 2000 to get her to try..

So you are privy to Ann's private convrasations. Is this just hearsay from you ex tulip disgrunteled GF?


Tulip has some golden rules one is tell customers at all times your happy, horny and all is great at tulip's..

I believe I can tell if my new girl is unhappy. You have never met her.


Anything else is heard back and its bye bye.

Any girl that leaves or gets a bye bye is said to have found a boyfriend.

Tulip's customer of course..

Care to name names? All the stories about Guitar, Naong, Poo marrying customers are lies?


So Ann who joined as a room maid only was turned into a sex worker through preasure from the manager to service a regular customer..

You don't know this. I asked her to sit in the room; nothing else.



She comes from the country, is young, a little affraid of sex with foreign guys who come in all shape and sizes, ages and health habbits..

Ann is from Nakhorn Phanom. She was recruted by Saeng to work at Tulip. She in 24 and no stranger to sex.


She needs the money and supports her family like most at tulip.. and this is different from all the other up-country girls working in BKK?


She has never had anal sex but will be expected to have up to 6 cocks in her ass in a busy day.

Many times a week..

More than one girl at Tulip does not do anal. She is not a superstar so she doesn't do anything 6 times a day.


So my point is if you see a girl who is not a sex worker, let her choose at her own pace her career path..
Tell that to the thousands of mongers hitting on clerks, secretarys, shop girls, any other girl under thirty.


Your fantasy of turning a cleaning girl who is not down stairs in the book or in gym work out clothing should be just that..

She is not a fantasy. She is a girl I truely like.


Her life changed forever over a 100 baht tip..

Her life changed when she left her home town to work at Tulip.


Some things are sacred in life and some respect and class needs to be shown to non working girls..

I think have fun with the ones who are working girls but leave the ones who are not alone..

Tell that to all the Farangs picking up uni girls at after hours clubs.



(Before you attack me as a first time poster I have been a member of this board before and just rejoined. I live in Bangkok and have done so for over 18 years.
I went to tulip on its first day of trading and was a regular untill recently. Just rejoined? What was your old user ID? I would love to look up some of your old posts.

Member #3428
04-26-09, 22:38
Geez... I take a few days off and there's three pages of Yok... She fall down, she have accident, she pregnant... yada yada yada.... National crisis here folks. I am surprised it is not reported on CNN or BBC.

Why don't we give Yok her own thread, or at least give Tulip their own sub thread under MP and you can make SF the moderator.

And this is not a slam or flame, of course I know Yok and of course I've been to Tulip many times and recommend it and I've recommended Yok to people, but page after page of Tulip this and Tulip is a little much. And of course if she is injured then I wish her no harm she's a smart and nice lady. But it is not like sex will stop in BKK if Yok takes a week off of work. She's booked out many times anyways.

This entire thread is bordering on one big obsession.

Why don't you check out Smile Massage on 26 I think, had some lovely multiple pop sessions there with two of the girls. At first I had only one pop offered but second visit was able to get multiple pops, nice rooms, nice girls, completely satisfied with their level of stardom.

Oh and Giotto, Congrats on the child :D Hope you and Yok will raise her / him correctly. I'll bring you a cigar shortly and you can explain it to the Mrs. ;)

Fon Tok
04-26-09, 23:53
Geez... ... yada yada yada.... Why don't we give Yok her own thread, or at least give Tulip their own sub thread under MP and you can make SF the moderator.

This entire thread is bordering on one big obsession. I second this idea! Start a Tulip thread, or a Flower Shop thread.

Let's start hearing more about other places and other girls. Variety is the spice of life, and there's a lot of spice in Bangkok!

And while we're at it, how about a Giotto's Guide to Good Parenting thread too! ;)

Member #3428
04-27-09, 01:27
You Bastard!!!

You had to go all out adn publicize my Fav Massage Place :(
Now I'll have to book to get there!
Life is too hard, I have to go hunt for a new home... again

Yes I am a Bastard, we all know this and I don't try to hide it. :D

You try new places all the time so I don't feel bad for you and since I can't go to Tulip anymore as Mrs. Rabbit will find out so I need you to find me some good hide away places with multiple pops. Then we will keep that one private...


The Lord MP is the new 4 or 5 story hotel looking place on Ratchada soi 7. Just after Robinson.

It will have 24 hours service and hotel like amenity, and is said to be scheduled to open Beginning of may (Source: Mamasan from Long Beach who is moving there)

Find out if multiple pops or multiple girls and pops is available and PM me, or we will hunt it out together soon ;)

M P Lurker
04-27-09, 02:57
Saeng knows that. Saeng was working in Barons before, and took the best girls out there to Tulips. I am quite sure that the superstars at Tulips will be treated well, and the management will not cut THB 3,000 for a sick leave day at all. The management will be happy for each day Yok works.

Sorry you are just out of touch and guessing. 3000K fine for missing per day outside normal day off), even for sick day, is well known by experienced Tulip goers who talk to the girls in detail. Girl can get sick leave, no fine, under special circumstances, such as whole week away sick. Tulip is a business with tough rules.
Girls do not get a salary! (Soapy and Oily girls normally have no salary)

NicFrenchy
04-27-09, 03:04
Sorry you are just out of touch and guessing.

So are you

We will never know for sure. How do you know for sure? Yok told you so? has any other girl confirmed this to be really true?

Many girls play on our Sympathy and they use these trick to make sure that IF you ask them to take a day off or a sick day, they will get an extra 3,000 to show for it.

I am not implying it is the case @ Tulip, I can never know until I work there, but I am assuming it is not true. It can't possibly work unless the girls are totally dumb (and we know they are not).

NicFrenchy
04-27-09, 03:38
You are just speculating without any info.

So are you, you are just repeating what Yok told you. As far as I am concerned, all the girls could be telling the same to their customers.


My info confirmed by Raptors and I forget who else:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=874459&postcount=3670

It still does not make the info true. 50 guys can confirm and agree that 2+2=5, does this make it true?


I think I have a reputation for reliable info
Yeah, so does the pope, but he still goes out advising people to fuck without condoms.


You you really think that girls will retain regular customers by feeding them a lot of bullshit (soon to be found out by other sources)? Don't worry, I am always seeking alternative sources of info to confirm information received.

Hey, do some research of your own rather than idle speculation.

All I am saying is that it makes no sense whatsoever for a business (any business to do that), especially with Superstars like Yok. As Giotto said in another Thread: Tulip needs her more than the needs Tulip. In that case, how could they charge her 3,000 per day if she is sick? makes no sense.

NicFrenchy
04-27-09, 05:21
Why not take it to Fight Club?

Some girls lie sometimes, some girls lie all the time.

Thai P4P girls? I think we all know the answer to this question.

C'mon....! ;)

You're right, but it is not a fight, at least in my opinion and is still informative enough to stay in the Massage Thread as we are discussing Tulip.

NicFrenchy
04-27-09, 09:38
I resent being compared to the pope ;)
Remember that I am trying to pass on useful info.
I am not trying to give out ridiculous advice. :D

What you think makes sense for a Thai business is very different to what actually happens. Thats why places lose you as a customer so often. They can't even look after you the customer properly.
This is Thailand!

I was just pulling your leg a bit :D
Of course I can't know for sure, I haven't even been to Tulip since Jan 2008. I am sure the info you have is reliable (as far as getting it from Tulip employees) but it is difficult for me to follow the logic.

The superstars are needed in the Parlor, not the other way around. If YOK goes to another parlor (as I explained in another post earlier), I am sure she could even make more money and work less.

Dammit, I could be a P4P lady advisor LOL

Theant
04-27-09, 10:26
My first hand information confirm Soap Fan writings: every girl at Tulip, even superstars, have to pay fine for missing day over day off.

More, if you book a girl in her day off, management call her for going to work.
First time at Tulip, I don't know this, but when girls expleined to me, I
learned day off of my fav, because I like to make early bookings.

NicFrenchy
04-28-09, 02:30
What P4P job in Bangkok would maximise a girl's earning potential?
Would it be escort, G club, MP (perhaps Angel with so many Japanese customers), or bargirl?

Apologies if I am in the wrong thread, but obviously some MP girls must be getting 100K Baht per month or more. Maybe a top Angel girl would get a lot more than this. Possibly some bar girls (but not many) can match this if they do multiple short times per night, or get high paying Japanese customers.

As I said before, if the girl is worth her weight (so to speak) then Angel is the place as far as I am concerned. Soapies are ok but have many thai customers.

Angel24 is always busy, no matter what day/time there are a lot of Cellphones in the see-through box (girls are forced to put their phone there when going up with a customer).

I remember back in 2006, Miss KIP at Angel24, Good looking and was said to take it up the ass. Result: Impossible to see her! she was always taken by Japanese, Singaporeans on weeks holidays. The one time I saw her as not on holiday, she had bookings all day.

In my opinion, Angel24 is THE most successful Oily there is in BKK. Well above Tulip as they have now 41 rooms and up to 70 girls.

Friday/Sat/Sundays are Full and you have to wait for a room to free up. that's 41 rooms X 400thb (minimum charge) = 16,000 thb in 1 hour
They can surely rack up to 200,000 per day on weekends.

Of course, for a girl to be successful there she would have to be either drop dead gorgeous (haven't seen one yet in LOS) or a very very good performer (on top of being good looking). Then her name will spread in our AND Japanese Forums.

One thing is for sure, if a Japanese guy is to sponsor one of these girls, then they will get much more than 100k per month. The man will probably buy her a condo, a car, maybe even a shop to keep her occupied.

Is there a massage place that can do better (business wise) than Angel24? I mean, they advertize heavily on RakuRaku, GDiary and other online P4P sites.

Great business model.

BUT.... and there is a BIG BUT.... for the newbies reading this, don't think for one second that you will get a great service there.
Some providers are good, some are very good, but the majority will give you a very average experience. Angel24 is like a Factory: Come-in, cum and come-out :D

http://angel26.kt.fc2.com/english01.html

Fornic8
04-28-09, 04:23
I think somestimes there is to much hype over the big tourist MP places. I was in the BKK suburbs and found this mom&pop place with three girls. I think I was thier first Farang customer. One hour oil massage and FS was 500bt. I somestimes drive up there just for the treat.

In the same suburb a new MP just opened. Nice and clean with 10 young girls working. 8 of them would not be out of place in the Angel photo lineup. All from the countryside. Thay offer a one hour "hand job" massage (yes it says that on the menu) massage for 400bt inclusive.


As I said before, if the girl is worth her weight (so to speak) then Angel is the place as far as I am concerned. Soapies are ok but have many thai customers.

Angel24 is always busy, no matter what day/time there are a lot of Cellphones in the see-through box (girls are forced to put their phone there when going up with a customer).

I remember back in 2006, Miss KIP at Angel24, Good looking and was said to take it up the ass. Result: Impossible to see her! she was always taken by Japanese, Singaporeans on weeks holidays. The one time I saw her as not on holiday, she had bookings all day.

In my opinion, Angel24 is THE most successful Oily there is in BKK. Well above Tulip as they have now 41 rooms and up to 70 girls.

Friday/Sat/Sundays are Full and you have to wait for a room to free up. that's 41 rooms X 400thb (minimum charge) = 16,000 thb in 1 hour
They can surely rack up to 200,000 per day on weekends.

Of course, for a girl to be successful there she would have to be either drop dead gorgeous (haven't seen one yet in LOS) or a very very good performer (on top of being good looking). Then her name will spread in our AND Japanese Forums.

One thing is for sure, if a Japanese guy is to sponsor one of these girls, then they will get much more than 100k per month. The man will probably buy her a condo, a car, maybe even a shop to keep her occupied.

Is there a massage place that can do better (business wise) than Angel24? I mean, they advertize heavily on RakuRaku, GDiary and other online P4P sites.

Great business model.

BUT.... and there is a BIG BUT.... for the newbies reading this, don't think for one second that you will get a great service there.
Some providers are good, some are very good, but the majority will give you a very average experience. Angel24 is like a Factory: Come-in, cum and come-out :D

http://angel26.kt.fc2.com/english01.html

NicFrenchy
04-28-09, 09:46
Thank you guys for concentrating on the peas and not the Steak. Now that we know where Angel is located, how about the sponsoring post/question?
any other views on this?

And a side note to some people: NO, Tulip did not close down. I understand that we have not talked about it for a full 24 hours, my apologies about it. :D

Pita123
04-28-09, 15:32
Sorry to break the silence, NicFrenchy. 30 hours is just too much without more Tulip information. :)

First of all, Sweetpete, I firmly believe that a good deal of what you say to be true. I am also interested in your original screen name so we can see your previous posts and make a better judgment of your charater. Even if your way of telling it isn't true about Ant, (not sure why people are calling her Ann) then it is true about hundreds and thousands of other girls. However, in the context of ISG, I don't really care. At the end of the day the majority of these women make their own choices in life. They may be pressured into making the decisions, they may make them because they are desperate for money, it can be that they were brought up with no other prospects to get out of the village. There are plenty of women who are in just as dire a situation and never take that path. I also reckon that for enough money any woman would be willing to take that path. As SF mentioned, it is just a question of dickering over price. For Ant it was 2000 baht. At the end of the day I come to ISG to get and share information about mongering. I'm not interested in moralisation, I'm interested in where I can have an enjoyable time, with expected results, for an anticipated price.

Fornic8, thank you for the information on Ant. I'd never have noticed her as a maid and her picture in the catalog sucks. The picture of her face you posted is what led me to selecting her. She is a really nice girl. I prefer GFE to PSE and Ant really provided that. As always, a lot has to do with the chemistry and match in personalities. I see you mention that she's 24, she told me she's only 20. She has an amazing body in my opinion, save the fact that she's shorter than I prefer. Her breasts are small but she's not flat-chested. She made a point of showing off and saying "Real, no silicon". Height is one of the things Yok really has going for her in my book. Given the same height I imagine they'd have similar bodies. Ant provided a three shot session and apparently wasn't watching the clock enough since we got a knock on the door. At the end of the session she took a Tulip business card out of her bag, wrote in English her Tulip name as well as real name (I'd asked what it is earlier in the sessions and used it exclusively from then on) and said to "Call to book" with a big smile. This was her 5th day and I got the feeling that she is enjoying herself. Will that be the case after 2-3-6-12 months? Who knows? For now I have two favorites at Tulip and will have a dilemma if both are free. I had planned to visit Ant again before I left town but wasn't feeling well.

Fornic8
04-28-09, 15:43
Pita123,

Thanks for the post. I am glad Ann/Ant is doing well.


Sorry to break the silence, NicFrenchy. 30 hours is just too much without more Tulip information. :)

First of all, Sweetpete, I firmly believe that a good deal of what you say to be true. I am also interested in your original screen name so we can see your previous posts and make a better judgment of your charater. Even if your way of telling it isn't true about Ant, (not sure why people are calling her Ann) then it is true about hundreds and thousands of other girls. However, in the context of ISG, I don't really care. At the end of the day the majority of these women make their own choices in life. They may be pressured into making the decisions, they may make them because they are desperate for money, it can be that they were brought up with no other prospects to get out of the village. There are plenty of women who are in just as dire a situation and never take that path. I also reckon that for enough money any woman would be willing to take that path. As SF mentioned, it is just a question of dickering over price. For Ant it was 2000 baht. At the end of the day I come to ISG to get and share information about mongering. I'm not interested in moralisation, I'm interested in where I can have an enjoyable time, with expected results, for an anticipated price.

Fornic8, thank you for the information on Ant. I'd never have noticed her as a maid and her picture in the catalog sucks. The picture of her face you posted is what led me to selecting her. She is a really nice girl. I prefer GFE to PSE and Ant really provided that. As always, a lot has to do with the chemistry and match in personalities. I see you mention that she's 24, she told me she's only 20. She has an amazing body in my opinion, save the fact that she's shorter than I prefer. Her breasts are small but she's not flat-chested. She made a point of showing off and saying "Real, no silicon". Height is one of the things Yok really has going for her in my book. Given the same height I imagine they'd have similar bodies. Ant provided a three shot session and apparently wasn't watching the clock enough since we got a knock on the door. At the end of the session she took a Tulip business card out of her bag, wrote in English her Tulip name as well as real name (I'd asked what it is earlier in the sessions and used it exclusively from then on) and said to "Call to book" with a big smile. This was her 5th day and I got the feeling that she is enjoying herself. Will that be the case after 2-3-6-12 months? Who knows? For now I have two favorites at Tulip and will have a dilemma if both are free. I had planned to visit Ant again before I left town but wasn't feeling well.

Kuratla
04-28-09, 16:36
Nestle is soon to leave Tulip to marry an American. I heard this rumor a couple of days ago and saw it confirmed on another site.

Best of luck to her.

Fornic8
04-29-09, 17:36
Yok falls down and three pages of posts.

Nestle getting married and not a single reply?


Nestle is soon to leave Tulip to marry an American. I heard this rumor a couple of days ago and saw it confirmed on another site.

Best of luck to her.

Kuratla
04-30-09, 10:40
yok falls down and three pages of posts.

nestle getting married and not a single reply?yok probably urinated today as well. let's see how many posts that receives.

seriously though, it really goes to show how certain girls are raised up and put on a pedastal by certain posters on a particular forum. yok is a tulip goddess here on isg but, on other forums, there is scarcely a word about her.

M P Lurker
04-30-09, 11:14
... here on ISG but, on other forums, ....
There is a forum where Tulip gets the odd mention, but for massage, Annies totally dominates. Eden gets a bit of publicity. But its like most of the other oilies and soapies don't exist and be careful to dare to recommend somewhere else too strongly. Reports are generally much shorter than on this forum ;) so I don't recommend even considering to switch over there.

Its a free forum for members but I think certain interests might be sponsoring it.

NicFrenchy
04-30-09, 15:25
Seriously though, it really goes to show how certain girls are raised up and put on a pedastal by certain posters on a particular forum. Yok is a Tulip goddess here on ISG but, on other forums, there is scarcely a word about her.Sorry but your info is not accurate, ISG isn't all about YOK. Tulip is I believe the most popular MP here, yes but a lot of other girls get reviews, not only YOK.

Actually, I might be the only guy in the Thailand forum (with more than 25 posts) that has not fucked her :D

Gwailo
04-30-09, 18:36
Sorry but your info is not accurate, ISG isn't all about YOK. Tulip is I believe the most popular MP here, yes but a lot of other girls get reviews, not only YOK.

Actually, I might be the only guy in the Thailand forum (with more than 25 posts) that has not fucked her :DWrong. I haven't fucked her either.

NicFrenchy
05-01-09, 03:23
Ah some info. We will have to assume it comes from a reliable source ;) So I am NOT going to say its all lies.

Are you just quoting someone from another forum?Well, let's just say my source is as reliable as getting my info only from Yok.

I believe she bullshits you sometimes, the same way people on other forums bullshit so I'd say our info credibility is same-same.


Obviously most sponsors have jealousy problems like you.

But they shouldn't believe they own a girl. We know that a large percentage of sponsored girls still have Giks, but not every last one of them. Actually, it's not about being jealous, I have giks and I could not care less how many guys they do on the side. When I am with them, I enjoy the time and when I am not, I don't care.

Having said that, I am not stupid enough to sponsor a P4P girl (maybe when I will get older I will change... I hope not though).

The problem I have with this is moral, if you pay a girl to stop working and she still sees customers on the side they I believe she is not worthy.

Let me put this in terms you will relate to: You have a special relationship with YOK, she trusts you and you pay her well. If she was to be sponsored and leave tulip, you think she would burn her bridges with you? No way. Moreover, you will wnat to see her when you are in BKK.

The problem I have is that these ladies will agree to see a few selected Very good customers, but in my mind it's the same as if they were back in the parlor, no difference.


The human species was not mean't to be monogamous.

Monkeys and other primates are not. Even birds are not.

So jealosies are just such a waste of time. Exclusive fucking rights are generally elusive, but girls are more likely to be faithful than guys, but it may only be due to society's brain washing (IMHO).That is in a regular relationship, let's face it, if you sponsor a girl, all you're doing is paying a prostitute to stay faithful. It has nothing to do with Primates and birds. (IMHO)

NicFrenchy
05-02-09, 03:32
Are things THAT easy in Thailand?

Let me explain a little more here: Last night, as I was riding on the BTS I saw a very very cute Thai girl but she was unfortunately surrounded by friends. We exchanged glances and as she totally noticed I was checking her out she was all smiles. She unfortunately left a few stops before I did and all her friends followed so I could not approach her. Too bad as she was really cute (probably had a Thai boyfriend but I could not care less).

All this cute girl story got me excited and I needed to relax (Let me state that, in my case, relaxing does not mean seating in my boxers on my sofa with a beer and TV). Massage it is!!

Well, by massage I am not really talking about your oily rub down, I am referring to a “Tulip-like” place with non-stop sex and no oil at all

I decided to visit Smile Massage (soi 26) http://www.smile-teen.com/ (at least, if nothing appealing available Soi oily is always a close option)

Miss DOW (ex-Ratee of Luxury 19) works there now but she was busy (no surprise seeing how cute she is and how nice her boobs are) so I sat and chatted away with the Mamasan (whom I know well). Business is tough but they are hanging in there. This has become my fav place for a while now because their service is very good. Could it be because the mamas an likes me? Maybe but even on days when she is not there the older lady always takes good care of me (free upgrade to the VIP room).

I did not look at the book and asked her if my fav girl was here (she was busy) but the mama asked me if I wanted to try another girl. I wasn’t really sold on the idea and wanted to maybe have a look at Angel on soi 24/1 but Seeing as I was hesitant, she promised me that the girl she will choose will make it worth my while. I really trust her and in order not to disappoint her I accepted (good business call on her side).

She called a name (secret) and a nice-is girl came out, not a stunner but not a bad looking girl either; “service must be good” I thought.

Let me clarify one thing about this Massage Place: it is CHEAP !!!!!
Any Oily in the Area charges 400thb for Oil Massage but at Smile Massage, 400thb buys you 1,5 hours.
The 2 hours session is 550thb (what Japanese oriented places charge for 1 hour)

Up in the room (the VIP one) she tells me I am very handsome and she is happy and lucky, she hugs me and starts sniffing my neck: things are starting nicely (although maybe the Mamasan told her to give me this great service). I don’t care, I am not going to complain about good service.
We hop in the shower and she washes me thoroughly with her hands, then with her breasts, I kiss her, she kisses me back: it’s ON!

After some kisses, caresses and groping (still in the shower) she kneels and take my half erect member in her mouth, gives me a good blowjob and makes me sit down, gives me a kiss and continues the Blowjob until I come in her mouth. She washes me again and I feel greatly relieved of whatever hornyness I had earlier.

On to the bed she asks me if I want a massage but I had other Plans, lay her down and start a DATY session that she seems to appreciate. Her pussy is tight and I was worried I could enter her at all (and I’m not BIG).
She pulled those huge condom packet (56) and I gently told her I wasn’t built like a Black guy LOL
I settled on a 54 and luckily she has some KY which helped a lot. Sex was fantastic and I was drained! I felt I could not come a third time so we stayed on the bed and talked a little bit.

I gave her a great tip and complimented the mamas an on her excellent choice. She winked at me and said: “I know what you like” (and she sure did)

My fav place at the moment, by a clear mile!

M P Lurker
05-02-09, 16:50
Let me put this in terms you will relate to: You have a special relationship with YOK, she trusts you and you pay her well. If she was to be sponsored and leave tulip, you think she would burn her bridges with you? No way. Moreover, you will wnat to see her when you are in BKK.No I don't relate to this sort of stuff!

Its not your business to act like a spy and report on what other people are doing and what you think they might be doing. Mind your own business!

Pita123
05-02-09, 18:08
I'm not a huge fan of having Tulip split off from the regular MP thread, but one fun result was seeing SF's post about his first visit to Tulip and first encounter with Yok. Now to read the other 50+ pages. :)

NicFrenchy
05-03-09, 00:38
No I don't relate to this sort of stuff!

Really? well, at least deep down you know the real answer to this. Minding my own business you say? get off your high horse and read your previous posts, you make as many assumptions on me as I do on you so don't come complaining later ;)

Now back to posting some reports... by the way, not a lot of reports on your side during your last visit? which Massage Parlors did you visit?

M P Lurker
05-03-09, 01:59
Really? well, at least deep down you know the real answer to this. Minding my own business you say? get off your high horse and read your previous posts, you make as many assumptions on me as I do on you so don't come complaining later ;)

Now back to posting some reports... by the way, not a lot of reports on your side during your last visit? which Massage Parlors did you visit?
Write directly about someone's posts is OK. Keep it at that! As you well know, I was trying to become more anonymous.
So please don't persue my personal life.

M P Lurker
05-03-09, 02:33
This thread is now contains all reports where the word Tulip. appeared. That is really silly, and some posts were about something else or where Tulip got mentioned in passing.

Here is an Annies post in the Tulip thread:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=698215&postcount=16

Tulip pre 2008 is somewhere else.
All "Flower Shop" posts will not be in here.

I think this is not helpful, Jackson!
It makes the Thread Search function much more difficult now, as what we are looking for could be in a different thread, i.e. non-Tulip reports might be in here.

Can still find 2007-2008 Tulip reports of note in this index, regardless of the thread they appear in:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=840040&postcount=2633

Andy Abs
05-03-09, 02:59
I think somestimes there is to much hype over the big tourist MP places. I was in the BKK suburbs and found this mom&pop place with three girls. I think I was thier first Farang customer. One hour oil massage and FS was 500bt. I somestimes drive up there just for the treat.

In the same suburb a new MP just opened. Nice and clean with 10 young girls working. 8 of them would not be out of place in the Angel photo lineup. All from the countryside. Thay offer a one hour "hand job" massage (yes it says that on the menu) massage for 400bt inclusive.Well I would like to know where this joint is?

I like a bit of different sometimes!

Bloodstock
05-03-09, 03:51
Are things THAT easy in Thailand?

Let me clarify one thing about this Massage Place: it is CHEAP !!!!!
Any Oily in the Area charges 400thb for Oil Massage but at Smile Massage, 400thb buys you 1,5 hours.

The 2 hours session is 550thb (what Japanese oriented places charge for 1 hour)Woo, that.is- a nice price! Do you mean that is all that you paid for the 1. 5 hours. Well, except for the tip, that is?

Cunning Stunt
05-03-09, 03:58
Oooo..errrr!! Isn't it fun when the Thai Forums most prolific posters start swinging their handbags at each other;)?

Maybe Jackson might have initiated a third thread - Bangkok Massage Parlors - SF and NF only.

NicFrenchy
05-03-09, 05:30
Oooo..errrr!! Isn't it fun when the Thai Forums most prolific posters start swinging their handbags at each other;)?

Handbag? Do you think I am gay or something to own a handbag?? :D
Don't worry, it's just an online Forum where people have fun and post reviews, I don't take it too seriously ;)

Mart Cham
05-03-09, 06:03
Handbag? Do you think I am gay or something to own a handbag?

Don't worry, it's just an online Forum where people have fun and post reviews, I don't take it too seriously ;)Don't the French all have handbags?

How do you call them? "Sacoches"?

M P Lurker
05-03-09, 07:56
Its now even easier than ever for Tulip girls to monitor the posts in this thread. I have heard from various sources of at least 3 girls that monitor this ISG forum. Some girls even have internet connection at home.

So regular customers should bear that in mind and that information is easily passed on to all the Tulip girls. I am NOT advising anyone to act a particular way when making reports of their Tulip experiences. Only to be fair.

I know some posters cleverly try to ensure that their posts are not too obviously identifiable by posting late and not specifying a lot of easy indentifying information.

Non customers can obviosly be as negative as they want without worrying.

M P Lurker
05-03-09, 07:59
Oooo..errrr!! Isn't it fun when the Thai Forums most prolific posters start swinging their handbags at each other;)?

Maybe Jackson might have initiated a third thread - Bangkok Massage Parlors - SF and NF only.
Good one LOL but you didn't mention the word that qualifies for this thread ;)
But of course I don't really care. Its up to everyone to choose the thread they think most appropriate!

NicFrenchy
05-03-09, 11:27
Its now even easier than ever for Tulip girls to monitor the posts in this thread. I have heard from various sources of at least 3 girls that monitor this ISG forum. Some girls even have internet connection at home.

How should this change the way people post? this forum was created for Mongers to share information. You can thank the Morons who showed these girls the way to ISG (I can think of a few names).

I am a non Tulip Customer, not sure I will ever be back there after the whole Bareback stories (already confirmed to me by a close friend & Customer of the place) but a few girls monitoring should not stop people from reporting on Tulip.

M P Lurker
05-03-09, 11:58
You can thank the Morons who showed these girls the way to ISG (I can think of a few names).
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.... but a few girls monitoring should not stop people from reporting on Tulip.
Some girls can do "Google Search" (no surprise)
e.g. Tulip Massage Keetah
or Gita or whatever. ISG comes up easily enough.
Most girls have probably heard of the ISG forum too.

Of course I don't advocate not posting.
I am happy with my past posts except for perhaps going too far with personal identifiable detail.

Member #3428
05-03-09, 12:16
Some girls can do "Google Search" (no surprise)
e.g. Tulip Massage Keetah
or Gita or whatever. ISG comes up easily enough.
Most girls have probably heard of the ISG forum too.

I disagree with this... I do NOT underestimate the intelligence of some of these girls in BKK. But it is not a simple google search to come up with items.

Mongers are showing the girls the web site, and some are even walking in with print out pages that show reports. So of course the girls heard about ISG. But not from just random surfing. They are getting it from people talking or the actual reports themselves.

ISG does not come up easy enough atleast in all of my search engines.

NicFrenchy
05-03-09, 14:05
Mongers are showing the girls the web site, and some are even walking in with print out pages that show reports.

Yes, they do. I remember once (not at Tulip) a massage girl telling me about this guy who came in with a paper and wanted her to do everything that was on the paper.

M P Lurker
05-03-09, 17:26
I disagree with this... I do NOT underestimate the intelligence of some of these girls in BKK. But it is not a simple google search to come up with items.

Mongers are showing the girls the web site, and some are even walking in with print out pages that show reports. So of course the girls heard about ISG. But not from just random surfing. They are getting it from people talking or the actual reports themselves.

ISG does not come up easy enough atleast in all of my search engines.
I just gave a hypothetical example that finds ISG on the first page.
I could come up with even smarter search words, e.g. condom, blowjob.
Try this one:
Tulip Massage condom sex
It doesn't really matter. If girls have heard of the ISG (and they have) they can find it and have done so. I don't exactly know how they found it in each case.
Hell, I even heard one girl had a handle on another forum from a reliable guy (but haven't checked if this story was true myself).

Mouse1
05-03-09, 17:50
I have reported a couple of times on being caught out by girls who have seen my postings on ISG... And I certainly never mentioned the site to them. But once word is out then all the girls know about it and share the info.
I disagree with this... I do NOT underestimate the intelligence of some of these girls in BKK. But it is not a simple google search to come up with items.

Mongers are showing the girls the web site, and some are even walking in with print out pages that show reports. So of course the girls heard about ISG. But not from just random surfing. They are getting it from people talking or the actual reports themselves.

ISG does not come up easy enough atleast in all of my search engines.

Canyon
05-04-09, 01:37
Hey, guys. I thought you two were friends. How come so much animosity? I've noticed in the last few weeks that Nic's attitude toward Soap Fan has changed with hostile posts from Nic? After that, Soap Fan fires back. What happened? Did I miss something? Nic, it seems like you go out of your way to make negative posts on Yok.

I like both of you, but it seems like the animosity is changing the tone of the board and not for the better. Let me know what's happening?

NicFrenchy
05-04-09, 01:45
Hey, guys. I thought you two were friends. How come so much animosity? I've noticed in the last few weeks that Nic's attitude toward Soap Fan has changed with hostile posts from Nic? After that, Soap Fan fires back. What happened? Did I miss something? Nic, it seems like you go out of your way to make negative posts on Yok.

I like both of you, but it seems like the animosity is changing the tone of the board and not for the better. Let me know what's happening?

Canyon,

That is not the case, I PM you my response

Kuratla
05-04-09, 04:27
Hey, guys. I thought you two were friends. How come so much animosity? I've noticed in the last few weeks that Nic's attitude toward Soap Fan has changed with hostile posts from Nic? After that, Soap Fan fires back. What happened? Did I miss something? Nic, it seems like you go out of your way to make negative posts on Yok.

I like both of you, but it seems like the animosity is changing the tone of the board and not for the better. Let me know what's happening?

Yeah, it's turned into a proper Thai ละคร over here.

Canyon
05-04-09, 04:53
Canyon,

That is not the case, I PM you my response

Nic,

Thank you for the PM. I'm glad there's no animosity on your part. I hope that you and Soap Fan can moderate your posts. I know it started in fun, but the tone did get somewhat combative.

Canyon

Dobinator1
05-04-09, 05:48
she hugs me and starts sniffing my neckI should probably ask this question in another forum, but since Nic brought it up. What IS the thing with the sniffing? I had a girl last time I was there (who I still communicate with) who would do the sniffing thing and I never quite figured if that was supposed to be a turn on or not.

Mouse1
05-04-09, 21:02
I should probably ask this question in another forum, but since Nic brought it up. What IS the thing with the sniffing? I had a girl last time I was there (who I still communicate with) who would do the sniffing thing and I never quite figured if that was supposed to be a turn on or not.See the following link:

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/569665/the_sniff_kiss_love_in_a_breath.html

NicFrenchy
05-05-09, 03:41
The sniff kiss is the most unbelievably knee weakening, brain emptying, word stumbling, erotic gesture when given by a lover

What a buch of crap LOL
whoever wrote this probably never enjoyed a blowjob!

I can see the marketing gurus already counting the money: they will create a "Sniff Bar" where the girl can sniff your cheek or neck for 200thb... and if you take a 5 sniffs package, you only pay 500 !!! how cheap for such a knee weakening experience!! :D

Daddy07
05-05-09, 03:46
What a buch of crap LOL
whoever wrote this probably never enjoyed a blowjob!

I can see the marketing gurus already counting the money: they will create a "Sniff Bar" where the girl can sniff your cheek or neck for 200thb... and if you take a 5 sniffs package, you only pay 500 !!! how cheap for such a knee weakening experience!! :D
That's funny, and you're right, Nic, but remember that the Thai chicks don't normally do that little sniff kiss thing unless they genuinely like you.

While not exactly "knee weakening," it is enjoyable and a nice compliment.

LittleBigMan
05-05-09, 04:00
Am I reading and writing on the correct thread?

What about when a Thai chick licks and whisper in your ear?


LBM

NicFrenchy
05-05-09, 04:32
Am I reading and writing on the correct thread?

What about when a Thai chick licks and whisper in your ear?


LBM

That's the next level... at that stage, you allready contributed to the sick buffalo back home and she plans your visit to mom and pop in the north east ;)

I believe most Tulip girls are from the same village? I think Saeng is shopping mostly in her hometown

Dobinator1
05-05-09, 04:45
See the following link:

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/569665/the_sniff_kiss_love_in_a_breath.htmlOnce again. You have proven that all you ever need to know in life is found on this forum. Thanks for the link to the write up. While I am now flattered that I have been sniff kissed, I'd take a blow job over that any day.

Kingq
05-05-09, 06:54
Nestle is soon to leave Tulip to marry an American. I heard this rumor a couple of days ago and saw it confirmed on another site.

Best of luck to her.I was in Tulip a month ago and chose Nestle (2nd time). Went to the room, had the usual shower, she got me on the bed and proceeded to blow me. Her hair was hanging down over my cock and I was marveling at the wet and sloppy blowjob. I then noticed she was crying. WTF? She told me I was nice and could she talk to me about this dilemma she was having? Seems some guy offered her 1 million baht to leave the business and live with him in Bangkok but she does not love him. She said she was in love with an American guy who she thought she was going to marry but he has told her that he has no money to take care of her and he was no longer answering her calls or SMS's. I told her to take the money.

Worst time I have ever had at Tulip. Would never take her again (if she is still working) and also informed the mamasan who offered me a choice of a different girl. Had to get back to work so could not partake. Will try and cash the "raincheck" next time I am there.

LittleBigMan
05-05-09, 08:06
Damn, I fucked!

LBM

Meryl
05-07-09, 04:18
I went to Tulip yesterday morning just after 11 and the girl behind the desk. Who did not have a lot of English. Told me Yok was on holiday for a amonth. I wonder if we misunderstood each other. Does anyone know anything specific on that?

Thanks

Meryl

West Coast
05-07-09, 08:58
I plan to visit Tulip MP at least five or six times during my stay in Bkk. Besides superstars Yok and Dao is there any other girl you can recommend?

M P Lurker
05-07-09, 14:37
I plan to visit Tulip MP at least five or six times during my stay in Bkk. Besides superstars Yok and Dao is there any other girl you can recommend?

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=840040&postcount=525

Admin
05-07-09, 20:29
Greetings everyone,

I'm still getting emails both pro and against my decision last week to split the Bangkok Massage Parlors into three separate threads, one each for Tulip, Annies, and the other locations.

Some members believe that I shouldn't have split the threads, and others believe that it was a good idea.

Personally, my inclination is to go one step further and create an entirely new Bangkok Massage Parlors forum that would include separate threads for general information and for each of the many MP locations in Bangkok.

However, given the lack of consensus regarding merely splitting the original thread, I thought I'd get some feedback from the members who are active in the Thailand forum, thus prompting me to post this survey.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=3023

As always, I look forward to receiving your opinions.

Thanks,

Jackson

Rocksoff
05-13-09, 11:24
After some searching, I reckon the 770 BHT deal at Akane for a quick rub and tug seem to be the best deal. That's just a simple massage + hj right?

Get a massage for 100baht at Sukhumvit Soi 21 (near corner with Asok) and HJ for 300baht at Toy bar in Soi Cowboy. Will probably have to get a drink or 2 at Toy bar, unless you're very brisk ..

Boater Boy
05-17-09, 13:59
Arrived in Bangkok today and desperate for some action went from the lodge straight down to Tulip. So easy to find and the walk from the lodge was nicely refreshing. As a newbie to the city took the receptionists choice. I have no real previous experience of what to expect in terms of service etc, however I was really pleased with everthing.

All things are dependant on personal preferences, however here goes. The lady is a young looking 26 (according to her)not the most beautiful, but has a near perfect body. It is a long time since I saw such a delightfully firm body, a lot of 20 year olds that I know would die for a pair of tits that stood as firm as hers.

Decided on an hour and a half oily. Shower together was nice followed by a massage that was very sexy but did little to get rid of the tension of several hours on planes getting here. Service was as previously described here many times, Excellent!! BBBJ provided followed by covered normal and anal sex. Anal was especially wonderful, perfect, not to tight and not a gaper. Finished by depositing about a litre of juice over her perfrect tits. Well it felt like a litre to me.

Why thanks to the ISG?? Becaues in the past I have wasted many many hours and a small fortune trying to find the “right” place to go. Thanks to the ISG I was able to be in the right place within a few hours of landing and got first class service. Happy to have paid my subs. A lot cheaper than trial and error.

BB

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

David 2
05-17-09, 19:54
Greetings everyone,

As always, I look forward to receiving your opinions.

Thanks,

Jackson

Hi Jackson...

Have you thought about creating a massage thread in the Pattaya forum? It seems that there is quite a bit of interest in that subject, but it somehow gets mixed in with all of the other information. I would appreciate it if you would consider it for us Pattaya regulars.

Thanks a million..

Pita123
05-17-09, 20:01
Hi Jackson...

Have you thought about creating a massage thread in the Pattaya forum? It seems that there is quite a bit of interest in that subject, but it somehow gets mixed in with all of the other information. I would appreciate it if you would consider it for us Pattaya regulars.

Thanks a million..

I guess posting about this in the Tulip thread was more logical than PMing Jackson directly. Who knew?

Traveller China
05-20-09, 03:17
so i've now done the famous tulip two times.

first time, some time ago and can't even remember the girl's name though she was short and on the chubby side, was not bad at all. she was eager on the bbbj, but stopped short of the flood. worked her backdoor 5 minutes in order for me to get in (and i'm not that big), and i was intensely spent after enjoying her. she even sent me off to sleep by giving a great and very comfortable massage. so only one shot, but with the intensity that's ok.

second time, more recent, was with a girl named cop (or gop). again a very enthusiastic and skilled bbbj, and i was about to unleash when she pulls back, rips out a condom and cowgirls me. of course, at that point it took her less than a minute to finish me off. after a short while, her mouth had my full attention again and she worked me up to full steam. again i could hear and feel gates being opened within, and she pulls back. frustration does not begin to describe my feelings, and the annoyance started having physical effects. although she did her best with backdoor, hands, front door - it all was without effect. it dawned upon me that what i needed was an expert bbtj where the provider would not pull back at my moment of glory.

at this point i am not sure if i will return to tulip. the two girls i've experienced so far, although skilled, still fall short of the mark.

so i headed off to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), spent an enjoyable time behind the curtains there and got exactly what i needed. and judging from the sounds and sights, fs is available. when exiting my little cubicle, a hottie with a belly-button piercing was just getting dressed. pity she was not downstairs when i arrived.

editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Mouse1
05-21-09, 15:55
First time, some time ago and can't even remember the girl's name though she was short and on the chubby side, was not bad at all. She was eager on the BBBJ, but stopped short of the flood. Worked her backdoor 5 minutes in order for me to get in (and I'm not that big), and I was intensely spent after enjoying her. She even sent me off to sleep by giving a great and very comfortable massage. Sounds like Nice. Was that her name? She is a sweetie, and had lost a fair bit of weight last time I saw her.

Made friends with her again after she sent me a string of emails a year or so ago saying that 'I shouldn't feel bad if I saw other girls at Tulip'. Made me feel bad...

Davidboy
05-21-09, 16:34
Sounds like Nice. Was that her name? She is a sweetie, and had lost a fair bit of weight last time I saw her.

Made friends with her again after she sent me a string of emails a year or so ago saying that 'I shouldn't feel bad if I saw other girls at Tulip'. Made me feel bad...Yeah she did the same to me in 2006. She almost became a (Cell Phone)stalker; but she sure loved the 'Back-Door'. Ever since then I never gave my cell number to any other P4P ladies.

As others have said; Tulip is a great place and because they have different providers it will depend somewhat on the individual provider and customer as to what you can and will receive as a good experience or an excellent experience.

Kuratla
05-22-09, 03:14
Just tell the girl to not stop "mai yoot". I've had no problems getting CIM from Tulip girls... including Nice.

M P Lurker
05-22-09, 08:20
Just tell the girl to not stop "mai yoot". I've had no problems getting CIM from Tulip girls... including Nice.
Better Thai is "Yar yoot " ("don't stop"). Most girls should understand the English too.

When you are close to coming or when feeling is perfect, saying so is a help too.

Just like giving a girl the best DATY is difficult if she is quiet and doesn't say what is feeling the best.

Nice is the "dingk dongk" funny one with coloured spiky hair (in case wasn't Nice being talked about originally).

Francesco24
05-23-09, 23:14
Last week I was in Bangkok and I visited Tulip 2 times.

Both times I had booked Cee in advance.

Really cute girl (nice face and slim body) and very good service (very good BBBJ, CIM, rimming, anal and so on).

Plus: she kept sucking after cim for a long time and I really enjoyed it Minus: no deep troath (even if I'm short or avarage at most)

Sidenote: I phoned many times during the week I was there but could never find Yok available. Guess I'll never have the privilege.

West Coast
05-25-09, 00:55
Last week I was in Bangkok and I visited Tulip 2 times.

Both times I had booked Cee in advance.

Really cute girl (nice face and slim body) and very good service (very good BBBJ, CIM, rimming, anal and so on).

Plus: she kept sucking after cim for a long time and I really enjoyed it Minus: no deep troath (even if I'm short or avarage at most)

Sidenote: I phoned many times during the week I was there but could never find Yok available. Guess I'll never have the privilege.Bad you could not find Yok. She became so popular in Tulips. Anyway, there are many more superstars:
Dao, Nestle, Nice (Nigh), Teena.

Mouse1
05-25-09, 04:38
I really feel that when I write about Tulip I'm writing for two completely different audiences... So I thought I'd simplify it this time:

Dear Cherry

Thank you for a great time yesterday. It was a pleasure to spend a couple of hours with you. My favourite girl in the past has been Gita (I think I introduced her first on these pages, albeit getting her name wrong), so I was disappointed when she left. However you are a perfect replacement.

You let me take some photos but I did promise not to post them on the internet, so I should say you are 23, small, (50kg, but I find that hard to believe), trim firm figure, long brown hair, smiley, friendly, not great English but good enough, and no children (so that is all very distinctive). You have been working there for 4 months, but haven't had a great number of customers, because you are not well known. I said that I am sure someone will soon post a report saying that you are a superstar, but you just laughed. Consider it done.

We did all the things that I could think of (twice in some cases) in a couple of hours, and had a good massage in the middle.

I am sure I will see you again.

Very best wishes

mouse

To all my other readers, if you like Gita and Pym, then you will probably like Cherry. If you are a Yok fan, then you may feel differently. Who knows?

Kuratla
05-25-09, 16:28
I really feel that when I write about Tulip I'm writing for two completely different audiences... So I thought I'd simplify it this time:


Indeed it is true that all posts here are monitored by Tulip staff... though, from what I've seen, their English isn't up to par and they can be confused and uncertain about what they read. I've been asked to clarify on occasion.

So, simplifying isn't a bad thing. :)

NicFrenchy
05-26-09, 02:28
Indeed it is true that all posts here are monitored by Tulip staff... though, from what I've seen, their English isn't up to par and they can be confused and uncertain about what they read. I've been asked to clarify on occasion.

So, simplifying isn't a bad thing. :)

Fear not, when they can't understand, they always ask their sugar daddies adn these guys take a real pleasure in translating for them

Kuratla
05-26-09, 02:46
Fear not, when they can't understand, they always ask their sugar daddies adn these guys take a real pleasure in translating for them

Do I detect a note of sarcasm there?

M P Lurker
05-26-09, 08:37
Sidenote: I phoned many times during the week I was there but could never find Yok available. Guess I'll never have the privilege.
I previous post reported Yok taking a month off (I think):
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=878805&postcount=839

And before that Soap Fan reported she was away recovering from concussion.

Giotto
05-26-09, 20:07
I previous post reported Yok taking a month off (I think):
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=878805&postcount=839

And before that Soap Fan reported she was away recovering from concussion.Myx Tical,

So what?

She stays with me ... where is the problem?


Giotto

NicFrenchy
05-27-09, 01:25
Myx Tical,

So what?

She stays with me ... where is the problem?


Giotto

With you? or on top of you?

Traveller China
05-29-09, 11:20
At this point I am not sure if I will return to Tulip. The two girls I've experienced so far, although skilled, still fall short of the mark.Decided to give Tulip one last chance. Who I picked and what we did are both immaterial. Suffice to say I am now a fan, and will return. What an incredibly enjoyable experience, with laughter, smiles and fun galore.

West Coast
05-30-09, 06:05
Decided to give Tulip one last chance. Who I picked and what we did are both immaterial. Suffice to say I am now a fan, and will return. What an incredibly enjoyable experience, with laughter, smiles and fun galore.Ratings for Tulip girls:

Yok (means "Jade")- 19 different members recommended
Dao (means "star" )- 15 (its quite close and Dao was missing for a while)
Nestle - 7
C (Cee, means "splendid") - 7
Nice - 6 (reportedly bi-sexual)
Teena - 4
Gita - 4
Fa (the new one, means "sky") - 4
June - 3
Pim - 3
and numerous others on two reporters.

Mouse1
05-30-09, 10:53
Ratings for Tulip girls:

Yok (means "Jade")- 19 different members recommended
Dao (means "star" )- 15 (its quite close and Dao was missing for a while)
Nestle - 7
C (Cee, means "splendid") - 7
Nice - 6 (reportedly bi-sexual)
Teena - 4
Gita - 4
Fa (the new one, means "sky") - 4
June - 3
Pim - 3
and numerous others on two reporters.Girls who get mentioned once often get commented on again, in a kind of snowball effect. But the number of reports really has no relevance to individual taste...

For what its worth, I thought Yok was nothing special, which apparently makes me fairly unique on this forum, and my favourite was the dear departed Gita.

I would certainly like to hear reports on the other lesser- or un-mentioned girls. Any reports, anybody?

1Ball
06-05-09, 04:44
In anticipation of a quick trip to BKK next week, I called up Tulip to make a booking with Yok, in advance. I was told she no longer works there, which might explain the lack of reports about her of late.

What has happened to her? Has one of you highjacked her? Soap Fan? Where are you hiding her? Anyone?

NicFrenchy
06-06-09, 02:55
In anticipation of a quick trip to BKK next week, I called up Tulip to make a booking with Yok, in advance. I was told she no longer works there, which might explain the lack of reports about her of late.

HAs she recovered from her mysterious Stairs Fall?

M P Lurker
06-06-09, 08:23
<snip>
Here is a current list of Tulip girls to my knowledge:
Yok
Dao
Cee (Oil)
Nestle (Gay)
Teena (Tena/Na)
Nice (Nigh)
Fa (Fah)
Nadea (Nadia)
June
Tuk (Tukataa)
May
Jane (not original Jane)
Rose
Nikki (Nook Nik)
Pim
Bow (Meji)
Jo Jo (Joy)
April (Naam)
Benz (Ben)
Golf (Gop/Gob)
Nana?
Cherry (Cherie)
Cat
<snip>
The list of Tulip girls seems well out of date now with big change recently.
Nestle, Yok, April, May gone and there must be new girls.

When I wanted to book Yok, was told she has retired.

I can speak Thai a little bit (bad accent though), having been in Thailand for some time.

RTFing a little, I noticed someone ask about why a nice girl would work at a place like Tulip?

There are several reasons, in my opinion:

1. The shop is famous and a good service girl can make very good money even if not stunning.

2. The girl doesn't have to have great chat and massage skills. She may not see herself as a bargirl who has to chat up customers, and may believe MP fame will bring her more consistent earnings.

3. A good selection of Foreigners go there. Some girls don't want a Japanese or Thai dominated customer base.

4. Tulip was probably suggested by a friend.

5. Strangely some girls prefer older nice guys and Tulip gets plenty of those. ;) Me too.

6. Maybe the girl sees that her one special skill to excel is sex.

7. The girl is essentially just biding time waiting to hook a special man (or more than one) to sponser her and her family that she supports. All the top stars leave when sponsored excepting Dao who left to have a baby but returned. Does the girl really love her sponsor deeply? In some cases maybe not, but has chosen someone acceptable and may be willing to learn to love him, but the all important thing is him supporting her family and wanting to marry her.

8. I don't believe any girl would work at Tulip who doesn't need the big money. If her family knows she works for sex, they would be much happier once she leaves too.
9. MPs have no salary and tough rules and fines but the girl may prefer a shop with levels of discipline that prevent her from being lazy and goofing off.

10. Girls maybe keen to leave Tulip as soon as possible, once has a sponsor who really loves her. Girls that are in Tulip too long may get too used to having lots of sex partners and find it hard to give up. Yes some girls really like lots of sex (with the right lovers)

All this is pretty obvious really, but strangely seemingly experienced members do ask and ponder.

"Selfish" bastards (Hee hee, LOL) - Forum members can get Tulip girls all for themselves by falling ridiculously in love with them and sponsoring them out of there to a better life. Maybe some girls are actually wanting to change their life to be so called "good girls" and be very lovable.

All the good girls get stolen, so enjoy while the going is good, or pick a not so "good girl" who will want to play up after she leaves.

If you like a girl too much, its essential to get her digits quickly before she disappears on you.

I am missing girls from several MPs where I failed to get her phone number or where she changed it. Then its frustrating as she maybe just moved to another MP.

Pita123
06-06-09, 10:06
HAs she recovered from her mysterious Stairs Fall?

Maybe we'll have the answer in 8 months?

Seriously, though, Tulip will be more risky for me. I have had mixed experiences and Yok was a favorite I knew I could rely upon. Gotta do more research it seems. *sigh*

M P Lurker
06-06-09, 14:09
Saeng calls Yok and my girl from downstairs. My girl arrives first and I hang aroung to see my friends' reaction when he sees Yok. She starts up the stairs slowly with her head down. When she gets halfway up she passes out and collapses on the steps. I turn to Saeng, who is helping some Indian dude with the Photo book, and tell her Yok is down. She calls downstairs and three girls show up to carry Yok downstairs. Nic,

When your head goes dark and dizzy (feeling feint), you must sit down quickly, but its not the same as a fall. So recovery is not from this incident.

Probably recovering from a-hole customers ;) :D

(sorry couldn't resist a bad pun)

Mystical

NicFrenchy
06-07-09, 04:53
Probably recovering from a-hole customers ;) :D
You're probably right ;)

Member #3200
06-07-09, 12:49
I know this might be old by now but back in early February I had a session with the lovely & enjoyable Pim and a newbie at the time whose service was very nice, not as experienced as Pim, but a very sweet girl who went by the name of Tom, she was 22years old, very small breasts, nice nipple and a near spinner (5'1/95lbs)

Kuratla
06-07-09, 19:52
Yok is gone because she's gotten married to/will get married to a German.

Apparently, they are currently in Thailand but will move to Germany.

West Coast
06-07-09, 20:48
Yok married.

Tulip will never be the same after Yok.


Yok is gone because she's gotten married to/will get married to a German.

Apparently, they are currently in Thailand but will move to Germany.

Member #3428
06-08-09, 01:24
Yok married. Tulip will never be the same after Yok.

Oh please... what a load of crap

Traveler1234
06-08-09, 14:55
Oh please... what a load of crap

Thank you, glad someone finally said something intelligent....as if Tulips is the only MP in town?

Fredlena
06-08-09, 16:12
Thank you, glad someone finally said something intelligent....as if Tulips is the only MP in town?You are sure right but. It seems to be one of the must, when looking for porn experience and ANAL at 95%

My next trip in BKK is in 1 week and I sure plan to go there.

As you can see in my previous posts, I have to make new plans for my trip and spend a lot of time on ISG to optimize my journey

Cheers

Fred

Pita123
06-08-09, 17:32
Thank you, glad someone finally said something intelligent....as if Tulips is the only MP in town?
This thread is not for discussion of other MPs in town. It is a thread for discussion of Tulip. If you want to talk about other MP there are other threads for that.

All it takes to make the next Yok is for someone with such a good body to show up with the right attitude. Next thing you know we'll turn her into a superstar as well.

Pita123
06-08-09, 17:43
Thanks for the post. I am glad Ann/Ant is doing well.

Anyone tried her recently?

Traveler1234
06-08-09, 18:29
This thread is not for discussion of other MPs in town. It is a thread for discussion of Tulip. If you want to talk about other MP there are other threads for that.

All it takes to make the next Yok is for someone with such a good body to show up with the right attitude. Next thing you know we'll turn her into a superstar as well.

jackson only started this silly thread because of couple of guys ranted and raved about tulips being the hottest mp in town. and yok and dad being superstars......blah blah blah

Davidboy
06-08-09, 19:06
Yeah she did the same to me in 2006. She almost became a (Cell Phone)stalker; but she sure loved the 'Back-Door'. Ever since then I never gave my cell number to any other P4P ladies.

As others have said; Tulip is a great place and because they have different providers it will depend somewhat on the individual provider and customer as to what you can and will receive as a good experience or an excellent experience.Yes there are a few Ladies that really enjoy the; 'Up-the Bun' experience; however they do not as a rule stand around and advertise it! And so the procedure should be approached carefully and with a bit of; 'Planning and thought'.

Pita123
06-09-09, 00:35
jackson only started this silly thread because of couple of guys ranted and raved about tulips being the hottest mp in town. and yok and dad being superstars......blah blah blah
Surely you mean that Jackson started this thread because some guys complained that they were tired of hearing about Tulip and Yok and Dao and the other flower ladies in the other threads. Regardless of how it started, if you don't want to hear about Tulip you don't need to read the thread.

Francesco24
06-11-09, 20:49
Even if I understand maybe someone is pissed about talkint so much about a particular girl... I'm sad to hear Yok is not there anymore, I've been in BKK on February and May and I could never meet her... now I'm going to spend 6 months in BKK I hoped to finally do it lol

Highway61
06-12-09, 14:02
Paid a visit for the first time to Tulips today, based on the rave reports here and because I am an anal fan, hoping for a good time. With my pal we found 5 ladies waiting (3pm arrival) and 2 were perhaps 7/10 at most. Ok we grabbed them, mine called "Som" and good attitude. I booked 2 hours in anticipation of mind-blowing sex but overall I'd say the whole experience was about 6/10. I might go back but not before I try other places first.

She was a dynamite masseuse. Knew all the right spots and made me realise how crap the "Thai" massages are in my home town. After an hour of this she asked what extras I was after. I said "the works" and I got everything bar anal, which she said she'd not done before but was willing to try. Ok as I have a fairly average schlonger, probably a bit small, I think she could tell it wouldn't be too bad. So she got this fairly poor lube from her bag and after all the other services (BBBJ, normal) were done, tried some back-door action. Well it hurt her a little so I suggested we stop but she wanted to press on, so we did. Well she seemed to get used to it and I shot my wad in no time after.

We'd finished early and my buddy (who I could hear screaming and humping next door, sheesh) was not yet done. So we sat around and chatted. Nice girl. Total damage 800 for the counter, and she asked for 1500 which I thought was a little cheeky but paid anyway.

So I have to continue my quest to find decent regular anal providers (apart from Eden) elsewhere. More to follow.

Pita123
06-13-09, 02:14
Paid a visit for the first time to Tulips today, based on the rave reports here and because I am an anal fan, hoping for a good time. With my pal we found 5 ladies waiting (3pm arrival) and 2 were perhaps 7/10 at most. Ok we grabbed them, mine called "Som" and good attitude. I booked 2 hours in anticipation of mind-blowing sex but overall I'd say the whole experience was about 6/10. I might go back but not before I try other places first.


I don't know about Som and obviously YMMV but I would say that your experience was likely negatively impact by taking the massage. While it was obviously a good massage, this isn't what I go to Tulip for. I get the action going from the get-go and find that it is a more enjoyable and fulfilling experience. I also decline the between action massages at Eden.

Highway61
06-13-09, 05:25
I don't know abo... your experience was likely negatively impact by taking the massage. While it was obviously a good massage, this isn't what I go to Tulip for. .Ah, you're right - I should cut to the chase immediately. Thankfully the massage was not too bad but if it'd been bad then I'd have been negative about Tulip overall. Want massage -> Go to real massage place eg spa. Want something else -> go there and do it.

Mouse1
06-13-09, 08:30
Total damage 800 for the counter, and she asked for 1500 which I thought was a little cheeky but paid anyway.Cheeky? That is the fixed price at Tulips, my friend. And had it been particularly good you might have wanted to add a small tip.

Not sure what would have happened if you had refused to pay, but I'll bet you wouldn't enjoy the rest of your stay in BKK...

Pita123
06-13-09, 09:54
Cheeky? That is the fixed price at Tulips, my friend. And had it been particularly good you might have wanted to add a small tip.

Not sure what would have happened if you had refused to pay, but I'll bet you wouldn't enjoy the rest of your stay in BKK...

This is another reason that you go to Tulips for 90 mins of non-stop action, be that DATY, Anal, cuddling, DFK and not for the massage. The 1500 isn't an add-on, it is the standard package.

Latin
06-13-09, 13:52
Hi Nic,
thanks for the headup on Tulip and Eden, before deciding i red for hours ISG is my bible :-)
Teoria times with Nice and one with Fa at Tulip, I had a better feeling with N she gave me hours of pleasure taking care of every cm. Of my body extensive and entusiastic suching deep t. rimming, fucking in any position very submissive and sweet girl.
2500 at my hotel a little less at Tulip but the rooms there are so sad they remind me of a prison. .......
Fa was a bit angry with me for a misunderstanding in booking but was never a problem we just laugh about it, she is not so sub like N, she like to play the mistress part if you are in this.

Eden id more expensive rooms are better and covered with mirrors, chose a 3 voler girl and let her choose the partner i was lucky with a 3*2 !
Standard time is 90 for 6000 with two girls, Lu feeling is that there is a lack of enthusiasm but can't complain about the service.

Tulip is not a MP, it's a university! I wish every good wife / gf should get a one week training do u agree?

Thanks again to Nic, Jason and sorry for som bad spelling but i'm still learning how to change the language of my new HTC Android.
Cheers
Latin

West Coast
06-13-09, 18:08
Even if I understand maybe someone is pissed about talkint so much about a particular girl... I'm sad to hear Yok is not there anymore, I've been in BKK on February and May and I could never meet her... now I'm going to spend 6 months in BKK I hoped to finally do it lolWhen are you going back to BKK? I will be there after august so I hope to hear some new reports from Tulip.

I am a fan of Tulip and it will be on my list of priorities during the trip.

Daddy San
06-13-09, 19:17
Tulip is not a MP, it's a university! I wish every good wife / gf should get a one week training do u agree?

That's an original idea!
Tulip / Seang should offer kind of "boot camp" training courses for our wives.
That way they might learn something and prbably enjoy it on the side!

Latin
06-14-09, 05:49
That's an original idea!
Tulip / Seang should offer kind of "boot camp" training courses for our wives.
That way they might learn something and prbably enjoy it on the side!

OK Daddy let's go on setting up the "Tulip Summer Camp" I think husbands will not be so jelous after testing the improvement.

English is not my mother tongue (as you can see) so I prefer to do the practical final tests and may be some lab :-)

Cheers,

Pita123
06-14-09, 06:12
That's an original idea!
Tulip / Seang should offer kind of "boot camp" training courses for our wives.
That way they might learn something and prbably enjoy it on the side!
Enjoy? Forget about that. Maybe they'll bring some extra cash home! ;)

Daddy San
06-14-09, 18:23
Enjoy? Forget about that. Maybe they'll bring some extra cash home! ;)
Are you suggesting, that you have in recent years actually satisfied your wife sexually? Is that what she told you?

So maybe such a boot camp would actually be a win-win situation!

M P Lurker
06-14-09, 18:37
Are you suggesting, that you have in recent years actually satisfied your wife sexually? Is that what she told you?

So maybe such a boot camp would actually be a win-win situation!My problem has always been that they seemed to be well satisfied long before I was. Does anyone have wives or GFs that actually want more sex than they are getting?

I have heard of it but surely its rare.

I can understand if they want some more variety.

West Coast
06-15-09, 06:09
Found this pics of Tulip girl on another similar website posted by some Italian guy. Anyone knows who is this girl?

Kuratla
06-15-09, 13:32
Found this pics of Tulip girl on another similar website posted by some Italian guy. Anyone knows who is this girl?

I think it's Dao but I can't be sure because you can only see a bit of her face.

What website?

Theant
06-15-09, 17:28
Found this pics of Tulip girl on another similar website posted by some Italian guy. Anyone knows who is this girl?Me too thinks she is Dao.

Daddy San
06-15-09, 18:16
My problem has always been that they seemed to be well satisfied long before I was. Does anyone have wives or GFs that actually want more sex than they are getting?

I have heard of it but surely its rare.

I can understand if they want some more variety.

Maybe its not a question of quantity but rather of QUALITY you (and most of us) are providing

Pita123
06-15-09, 21:04
Are you suggesting, that you have in recent years actually satisfied your wife sexually? Is that what she told you?

So maybe such a boot camp would actually be a win-win situation!
I know I haven't satisfied her in years. What I'm suggesting though is that I don't care about her enjoying herself. The extra income is what is making this sound good.

West Coast
06-16-09, 17:53
Is it true that Tulip co-owner Nui and ex Tulip girl Nong opened in soi 26 a new oil massage Snow White "same service as Tulip"? The rooms seem better, they have mirrors too. Ex Tulip girls (May, April, .) have gone to work there and now have very good review.

White Whale
06-21-09, 05:07
I went first time to Tulip myself. The expectations were very high from reading here. I got disappointed probably because of too high expectations. I went in and ordered 90 minutes oily massage. The mamasan yelled for Min and a small young lady came in. She walked upstairs in front of me so I had the perfect view. She had nice small round butt. I got aroused. We went to room upstairs. It was small, very basic and seen its' best days. We went shower and she washed me. She really did not speak english. I guess she asked me to go to my stomach so I did. She gave under average massage. I turned around and finally she got to point asking if I wanted sex. I agreed for standard fee. She was not into it at all. Some BJ and and riding. I lost my mood and did not come. She tried HJ and was looking into walls avoiding even eye contact. Believe me; in that room there was nothing interesting in the walls. Long 90 minutes.

This became as very negative report. One point of time I was thinking there must be more that one Tulip and I got into wrong one. I guess it is all about the girl and chemistry. I just got unlucky this time.

Mouse1
06-21-09, 07:41
Is it true that Tulip co-owner Nui and ex Tulip girl Nong opened in soi 26 a new oil massage Snow White "same service as Tulip"? The rooms seem better, they have mirrors too. Ex Tulip girls (May, April, .) have gone to work there and now have very good review.Interesting. Anyone been here yet?

Here is the web page with contact details.

http://www.raku2.tv/mbdetail_massage.php?id=R010763

Camieleke
06-21-09, 10:31
During my last visit I was in The Bangkok Millenium Hilton.
They have their own shuttle boat to The River City SHopping mall.
Walk out of the mall, turn to the right and you will see a lot of Tuk Tuk's on the corner. Walk in this street and after 100m you will see some massage parlors. SOme of them offer also HJ!
Prices for one massage around 400 TB and a tip for the girl.

West Coast
06-21-09, 16:30
I went first time to Tulip myself. The expectations were very high from reading here. I got disappointed probably because of too high expectations. I went in and ordered 90 minutes oily massage. The mamasan yelled for Min and a small young lady came in. She walked upstairs in front of me so I had the perfect view. She had nice small round butt. I got aroused. We went to room upstairs. It was small, very basic and seen its' best days. We went shower and she washed me. She really did not speak english. I guess she asked me to go to my stomach so I did. She gave under average massage. I turned around and finally she got to point asking if I wanted sex. I agreed for standard fee. She was not into it at all. Some BJ and and riding. I lost my mood and did not come. She tried HJ and was looking into walls avoiding even eye contact. Believe me; in that room there was nothing interesting in the walls. Long 90 minutes.

This became as very negative report. One point of time I was thinking there must be more that one Tulip and I got into wrong one. I guess it is all about the girl and chemistry. I just got unlucky this time.Next time ask to see line up or some of Tulip superstars.

Latin
06-23-09, 09:10
I Think it's more a matter of quality and fantasy than quantity, quantity is ok if you spend 2 h. and you want to get as much as possible out of your bath, but spending a life with the same woman is not easy....and probably for her too.....



My problem has always been that they seemed to be well satisfied long before I was. Does anyone have wives or GFs that actually want more sex than they are getting?

I have heard of it but surely its rare.

I can understand if they want some more variety.

Nvslim
06-23-09, 12:20
Is Soap Fan MIA or just keeping a low profile?

Slim

Zauberfee
06-23-09, 17:33
After some decent experience at a couple of massage parlors I finally went to Tulip. Since last year I've been there six times and my sesions went from good (with Nestlé, JoJo), to very good (with Ben), to awesome (with Cee/C) and ended up with WOW!!!!! with Nigh/Nice.

Nice might not be superstar stuff when you look at her with her small breast and her little chubby belly. But she's really willing to fuck the hell out of you (at least she did it with me ... twice ... ). It was by far the nastiest at sluttiest experience I ever had in my hole life. She provided the perfect fit from girlfriendsex and pornstuff. DFK, BBBJ, rimming, anal in various positions, normal sex in various positions, CIM and so on. Gave her a DATY until she came and then made her come a second time while she "played" cowgirl. I'll never forget the expression in her eyes that seemed to say "Holy shit, I can't believe, that this ugly and fat farang get the best out of me". Highlight was the moment when she got some vibrating balls and stimulated her pussy with it while I fucked her tight ass. Priceless experience.

But even the best sessions will come to an end :( ... After "work" was done, we stayed in bed, hugging and cuddling and had some nice chat.

Anyway ... I'll be back in Krung Thep next month and let see what Tulip will offer me then :)

Pita123
06-24-09, 15:23
I went first time to Tulip myself. The expectations were very high from reading here. I got disappointed probably because of too high expectations.

My first experience was similar to yours in that I hadn't prepared myself to ask for specific ladies and in the end I was not all that impressed. However, from experience I know that chemistry plays a huge part in how good the experience is and that I went back with a list of names to keep an eye out for. I was lucky enough to be with Yok a few times. I have also been with Ant and recently with Nice. I had an experience with Nice similar to that of Zauberfee. Also, in these places, the biggest mistake you can make is to not be clear that you are there for the full service. When a Tulip girls starts to massage me a bit between sessions I tell her that I'm not interested in a massage. When Eden girls turn on the porn I ask them why I'd need porn when I have them. You owe it to yourself to try again. This time go back with a list of who you want to try.

Pita123
06-24-09, 15:29
During my last visit I was in The Bangkok Millenium Hilton.
They have their own shuttle boat to The River City SHopping mall.
Walk out of the mall, turn to the right and you will see a lot of Tuk Tuk's on the corner. Walk in this street and after 100m you will see some massage parlors. SOme of them offer also HJ!
Prices for one massage around 400 TB and a tip for the girl.
Buddy, if the place isn't called Tulip then you got the wrong thread.

Pita123
06-24-09, 16:02
Interesting. Anyone been here yet?

Here is the web page with contact details.

http://www.raku2.tv/mbdetail_massage.php?id=R010763

Sure mate, a few of us have posted. Of course we didn't post in this thread since this thread is about Tulip and not other places.

Try the thread about Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES! (http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=890051&highlight=snow#post890051)

M P Lurker
06-24-09, 16:31
Is Soap Fan MIA or just keeping a low profile?

Slim
Not in Thailand!
Still lurking occasionally but not signing on regularly.
I'll contribute if I have something of possible interest.
But semi-retired as far as mongering reports go. Not sure if next trip to Thailand will even have time to monger.
Have other agenda.
Haven't been to Tulip shop for several months now nor even tried Snow White girls.

Tim Bone
06-24-09, 18:13
Nice might not be superstar stuff when you look at her with her small breast and her little chubby belly. But she's really willing to fuck the hell out of you (at least she did it with me ... twice ... ). It was by far the nastiest at sluttiest experience I ever had in my hole life. She provided the perfect fit from girlfriendsex and pornstuff. DFK, BBBJ, rimming, anal in various positions, normal sex in various positions, CIM and so on. Gave her a DATY until she came and then made her come a second time while she "played" cowgirl. I'll never forget the expression in her eyes that seemed to say "Holy shit, I can't believe, that this ugly and fat farang get the best out of me". Highlight was the moment when she got some vibrating balls and stimulated her pussy with it while I fucked her tight ass. Priceless experience.


It's just excactly how I remembered my session with her. Seems to be the standard program. A very high standard. The only thing different I was assigned her at my first visit. No one else has come close to her service.

Tim Bone
06-24-09, 18:16
Not in Thailand!
But semi-retired as far as mongering reports go. Not sure if next trip to Thailand will even have time to monger.
Have other agenda.


I guess you are retiring and are the one marrying Yok :D

Zauberfee
06-24-09, 18:37
I should be disappointed that I just got "standard" service ... ;)


However, from experience I know that chemistry plays a huge part in how good the experience is ...

I agree 100%. Sometimes it doesn't matter what you do, there'll be no chemistry at all because you don't fit to the girl or it's not a good day.

But sometimes it helps to work some good chemistry: just being talkative and make her laugh will often do the job, but always treat her well. The better you can talk thai, the better you'll get this job done. But that's just my experience with several girls.

I my case we talked about many things, also very private things and had also a very good time while not fucking

Nvslim
06-25-09, 11:26
Not in Thailand!
Still lurking occasionally but not signing on regularly.
I'll contribute if I have something of possible interest.
But semi-retired as far as mongering reports go. Not sure if next trip to Thailand will even have time to monger.
Have other agenda.
Haven't been to Tulip shop for several months now nor even tried Snow White girls.



Glad to hear you are well. I have enjoyed your posts and learned a lot. Hope you will still enjoy your trips.

Slim

HenryV
06-25-09, 15:55
Will be visiting Bangkok for only the second time, can you please tell me exactly where Tulips is, and their hours of operation. Got most of the other info I needed from this thread.

Thank you.

Great Guy
06-25-09, 16:53
Will be visiting Bangkok for only the second time, can you please tell me exactly where Tulips is, and their hours of operation. Got most of the other info I needed from this thread.

Thank you.

Hi Henry...

I'm surprised that you haven't been able to find Tulip from previous posts. It's probably the easiest MP to find. Just get on the Skytrain (BTS) and go to the Thong Lo station. When you get off the train, before going down the stairs, go to the even-soi side of the station and from there, walking in the direction of the Ekamai station, you should be able to look down toward the sidewalk and see a large Tulip sign facing you on the side of the building. Then, go down the stairs, make a U-turn and walk back (crossing one soi which I think is soi 38). Tulip is about 10 or 15 meters past that soi.

It's right beside the Thong Lo BTS station on the even-soi side of Sukhumvit.

I believe Tulip's hours are 10:00 am to 11:00 pm. (Best time to go is probably mid to late afternoon.)

Have fun and please report on your experience.

GG

Davidboy
06-25-09, 18:12
I guess you are retiring and are the one marrying Yok :Dim Bone I think we have a winner here! Two stars disappear at the same time.

There has to be something to the; 'Sound of Silence'

Gaienmae08
06-26-09, 02:29
I believe Tulip's hours are 10:00 am to 11:00 pm. (Best time to go is probably mid to late afternoon.

Says from 11am on the door.

Member #3428
06-26-09, 02:39
Says from 11am on the door.

When I used to go there you could get in earlier, just not many girls.

Lord Farquard
06-26-09, 03:25
Says from 11am on the door.

yes that is what is posted, but they open the doors at 10, and there are a few gals there at that time.

HenryV
06-26-09, 03:53
The irony is I searched and found all kind of great information, but could not get a handle on location/operating hours.

Thanks again.


Hi Henry...

I'm surprised that you haven't been able to find Tulip from previous posts. It's probably the easiest MP to find. Just get on the Skytrain (BTS) and go to the Thong Lo station. When you get off the train, before going down the stairs, go to the even-soi side of the station and from there, walking in the direction of the Ekamai station, you should be able to look down toward the sidewalk and see a large Tulip sign facing you on the side of the building. Then, go down the stairs, make a U-turn and walk back (crossing one soi which I think is soi 38). Tulip is about 10 or 15 meters past that soi.

It's right beside the Thong Lo BTS station on the even-soi side of Sukhumvit.

I believe Tulip's hours are 10:00 am to 11:00 pm. (Best time to go is probably mid to late afternoon.)

Have fun and please report on your experience.

GG

Mikle
06-26-09, 21:19
It's just excactly how I remembered my session with her. Seems to be the standard program. A very high standard. The only thing different I was assigned her at my first visit. No one else has come close to her service.Yes, Nice (or Nigh) is one of the superstars of tulip.

Maybe not the most beautiful, she has some chubby figure, a nice plentitude on the stomach, and the ass. Don't forget she has got 2 tween. Phisically I really like her, it is a nice variation from the super-thight young models it is so easy to find everywhere in bgk, thanks god.

Beside that she has a really beautiful breast, firm and strong, bigger than I could eat, a juicy clean and lovely smelling almost bold pussy, she looks pretty in face, with a big pleasuring mouth, little nose and electric hair.

But is with her service that she deserves the superstar-ness.

She sucks the best I encountered, no hands, right use of tongue and head movements, looks costantly in eyes with a subservient and horny look, deepthroat to heaven, lick balls, stick, area, and ass, really rims deep into the asshole, blows it by side making it banging the cheeks, really really topclass porn-star style. Also takes all your juice in her mouth, waits there continuing the movement for a couple of minutes, sometimes spits, sometimes lovingly swallows.

Takes it up in the ass, every position, never finishes her energy, maybe she really likes it, for sure she always keeps in mind your pleasure: like when she puts the vibrating balls in the pussy for her pleasure maybe, and for you to feel incredible while up in her ass.

Highly recomended.

Mikle
06-26-09, 21:54
I came to tulip and mamasan suggested jane "you like banging the ass, right? Take jane, she is so sweet".

I don't like really fucking in the ass too much, I just indulge in everything if I can, but I really like sweet girls. So, with jane we go.

She is nice, youngish, laughing the right, small and most important willing to please. She is a tulip-girl: training, experience and attitude made a sex-artist of her, expert in giving sexual pleasure to older men.

She is very submissive and likes to be said what to do. That day I also wanted to play it a little hard (while usually I preferred to be played on by the girls)

BBBJ, sex in all position, face fucking, grabbing her ass, biting her small tits, licking her face, anal, CIM. All of it 2 times. Second was COF.

Centaurus
06-27-09, 04:09
But is with her service that she deserves the superstar-ness.Nice is also fun and speaks good English. If only she hadn't gone for this big new tattoo :(

Last time, I was kinda tired and lazy, had a very long bj/CIM only. Nothing in it for her, and I wasn't up for DATY either.

That was not acceptable for her. She reminded me of our last session (eight month ago, and she remembered the whole thing incl. what was said, duh). She took out an egg-vibrator, made me hard, sorta just plugged me in in reverse cowgirl and sat on my cock with nearly no movement. She then gave herself a clit massage to completion, and I could actually feel the vibrator while inside her. Quite a horny experience.

Nice has mucho potential!

Bkkmj
06-27-09, 11:16
This is my first post. First I want to thank all the contributors to the forum. Last year this forum help my first trip to Bangkok be a great experience. Then, unbelievably two months ago I was offered a job to be the senior guy in Asia for my team and I would be based in Bangkok. So I hope to be continue to contribute.

After being in Bangkok for two weeks I decided to break out of my Soi Cowboy fixation and try Tulip. Got there around 3pm. There was no one in the Lobby. So I step to the desk and asked for a massage. The mamasan called down stairs and a girl name kip came up. So spoke little English and being new to Bangkok I speak very little thai. Got up to the room and took the customary shower and bbj. Since bbj in the shower is not really my thing we quickly moved to the bed. The massage began and was nice but not great. I think she was new because she kept checking a little sheet of paper she had. Flipped over and got down to business. Overall I would rate the experience a 5/10. I just don’t think I clicked with her. I will have to give it another try in a week or so to see if I tulip into my rotation.

M P Lurker
06-28-09, 15:23
After being in Bangkok for two weeks I decided to break out of my Soi Cowboy fixation and try Tulip. Got there around 3pm. There was no one in the Lobby. So I step to the desk and asked for a massage. The mamasan called down stairs and a girl name kip came up. <cut>Reading the forum, seems better to be aware of recommended girls that might suit you, and go downstairs and choose yourself.

West Coast
06-28-09, 22:01
This is my first post. First I want to thank all the contributors to the forum. Last year this forum help my first trip to Bangkok be a great experience. Then, unbelievably two months ago I was offered a job to be the senior guy in Asia for my team and I would be based in Bangkok. So I hope to be continue to contribute.

After being in Bangkok for two weeks I decided to break out of my Soi Cowboy fixation and try Tulip. Got there around 3pm. There was no one in the Lobby. So I step to the desk and asked for a massage. The mamasan called down stairs and a girl name kip came up. So spoke little English and being new to Bangkok I speak very little thai. Got up to the room and took the customary shower and bbj. Since bbj in the shower is not really my thing we quickly moved to the bed. The massage began and was nice but not great. I think she was new because she kept checking a little sheet of paper she had. Flipped over and got down to business. Overall I would rate the experience a 5/10. I just don’t think I clicked with her. I will have to give it another try in a week or so to see if I tulip into my rotation.Never heard about Kip. Probably new in a business.

Ask for line up downstairs or any superstar like Tina, Aey, Jane, Tuk.

Fredlena
06-29-09, 13:31
Never heard about Kip. Probably new in a business.

Ask for line up downstairs or any superstar like Tina, Aey, Jane, Tuk.Don't forget FA, seen her 10 days ago, body 8, FS included anal, GF

Csun213
07-02-09, 23:54
Can someone tell me if there is an oily type place which performs like Tulip in Pattaya? Thanks

West Coast
07-03-09, 14:57
Can someone tell me if there is an oily type place which performs like Tulip in Pattaya?

Thankshttp://www.devilsdenpattaya.com/

Dan7373
07-03-09, 16:57
Can someone tell me if there is an oily type place which performs like Tulip in Pattaya? Thanks
I've had some good experiences with massage ladies in Pattaya. Lady #232 at Sabai Dee is pretty good in body-to-body massage. She has a nice smile, a good body. And she is very good in bed, especially after you masturbate her pussy a little with the flat of your hand during the massage. This juicy lady is good and ready for the ride to the finish no matter how big you are. She has a way of psyching herself up and preparing herself for the ride by masturbating herself on your leg, even if you don't do much to prepare her.

But Tulip Massage is best in terms of the porn-star experience, especially the anal porn-star experience. I don't think there is any massage place in Pattaya where the ladies spread their nice cheeks for the guys as readily as the Tulip Massage ladies spread. I'm not that much into anal. But I do like to slip a lubricated finger or two up the lady's sphincter during the cowgirl ride. Which the ladies at Tulip Massage are very good at accepting, unlike the ladies at many other massage places are.

Csun213
07-03-09, 18:39
I've had some good experiences with massage ladies in Pattaya. Lady #232 at Sabai Dee is pretty good in body-to-body massage. She has a nice smile, a good body. And she is very good in bed, especially after you masturbate her pussy a little with the flat of your hand during the massage. This juicy lady is good and ready for the ride to the finish no matter how big you are. She has a way of psyching herself up and preparing herself for the ride by masturbating herself on your leg, even if you don't do much to prepare her.

But Tulip Massage is best in terms of the porn-star experience, especially the anal porn-star experience. I don't think there is any massage place in Pattaya where the ladies spread their nice cheeks for the guys as readily as the Tulip Massage ladies spread. I'm not that much into anal. But I do like to slip a lubricated finger or two up the lady's sphincter during the cowgirl ride. Which the ladies at Tulip Massage are very good at accepting, unlike the ladies at many other massage places are.

Thanks for the quick response. Actually I am not into Anal but just want the Tulip performance but a few friends want to spend time in Pattaya.

West Coast
07-12-09, 04:24
Yok was one of the greatest superstars at Tulip. Also many more superstars like April,old Fa,Nadea,Nong,Nestle,Gita etc left MP.

Seems to me that Tulip is no longer on a farang`s list of favourites.

Traveller China
07-13-09, 04:45
Yok was one of the greatest superstars at Tulip. Also many more superstars like April,old Fa,Nadea,Nong,Nestle,Gita etc left MP.

Seems to me that Tulip is no longer on a farang`s list of favourites.Hmmm. Last I checked, Nadea was still there. In fact, she's the one who turned my opinion of Tulip around, ref one of my earlier and very brief posts.

Davidboy
07-14-09, 18:02
Yok was one of the greatest superstars at Tulip. Also many more superstars like April,old Fa,Nadea,Nong,Nestle,Gita etc left MP.

Seems to me that Tulip is no longer on a farang`s list of favourites.

They were only 'Superstars' after numerous postings by two individuals; who BTW are the not posting any longer. Before these two individuals had a
significant rise in their 'LEVIS' in connection with Tulip; these girls were not 'Famous' at all and so now it is back to normal. Sure I liked Kuhn Nong and Kuhn Yok too; and I loved fucking them in the ass as much as anyone. But the prospect of taking them 'away' from their ass fucking customers never entered my mind. Yes I miss them; but better you-than-me! Good luck with your new found love!

Slim Fast
07-14-09, 18:49
Hmmm. Last I checked, Nadea was still there. In fact, she's the one who turned my opinion of Tulip around, ref one of my earlier and very brief posts.Can any one say, who is still there and who is good?

I have read alot of this post now and never seem to find any direct describtion of the girls there.

Can anyone help out.

Pita123
07-14-09, 19:10
They were only 'Superstars' after numerous postings by two individuals; who BTW are the not posting any longer.

Perhaps one is no longer posting. The other is still posting just not posting much here since they are not physically around.

Anyway, why do you seem to have so much animosity towards people who posted about great experiences and helped others to have similarly great experiences?

West Coast
07-15-09, 02:32
I came to the conclusion by reading recent posts from Tulips (not only ISG, but also few other blogs).

As my trip to LOS is approaching, I`m just more interested in what to expect in Tulip once I get there.

Davidboy
07-15-09, 17:28
Perhaps one is no longer posting. The other is still posting just not posting much here since they are not physically around.

Anyway, why do you seem to have so much animosity towards people who posted about great experiences and helped others to have similarly great experiences?

No animosity towards people who posted about great experiences and helped others to have similarly great experiences? However I have lived in Thailand for seven years and I find the experience at Tulip to be very consistent regardless of the provider. Yes it does vary from one prostitute to another (Do you deny that they are prostitutes?) but generally speaking it has been really consistent for me. I do think that some customers do equate with having a good time as being; 'Special', and this would be normal if coming from 'North America'. However this is Asia and because I do live here; I have learned not to put women on a pedestal to be worshiped! And I learned this from the Asian community that inhabits this country.

People like you need to get your; 'Head Screwed on Straight' when dealing with Asians or you will quickly be reduced to 'Volenteer Victims'

Mouse1
07-15-09, 17:46
Can any one say, who is still there and who is good?

I have read alot of this post now and never seem to find any direct describtion of the girls there.

Can anyone help out.It just depends on your tastes, how the girl feels that day, and perhaps whether you click with her.

I have only had one poor experience with a Tulip lady (Nestle). I was not over-excited by Yok despite her 'superstar' status - she just wasn't right for me.

I had planned to visit Tulip twice on my recent trip. I tried to book Cherry a day in advance at the start, but she was already booked. Instead I went along there just as they opened and unsurprisingly there was only a limited choice. One of them was Dow, however, and she was her usual enthusiastic self. On my last day I made sure that I booked Cherry 2 days in advance, but when I phoned to say I was going to be 15 minutes late, I was told that she had 'family problems' and had to go home.

Cut my losses and instead decided to extend my little holiday with the fabulous Shrimp for an extra day. After 3 days in Krabi with her she was insistent that I should not pay any more, so finally had a real GFE!

Professor10
07-15-09, 18:19
will be making my 1st trip to tulip in late august - i only have one opportunity to have a 90 minute or 2 hour time. i have read great reviews on nice, cee, june, and dao - i like them 'big' and the wilder, the better. who should i make a reservation for - i will be there on the busiest day sunday - but will make a reservation earlier in the week. who should i pick for this once in a lifetime experience?? i may not get back to bkk for 5 years or more. will then head over to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s for a quickie - right after being at tulip. finding a gem on the street near nana is hit or miss.

Davidboy
07-15-09, 18:37
will be making my 1st trip to tulip in late august - i only have one opportunity to have a 90 minute or 2 hour time. i have read great reviews on nice, cee, june, and dao - i like them 'big' and the wilder, the better. who should i make a reservation for - i will be there on the busiest day sunday - but will make a reservation earlier in the week. who should i pick for this once in a lifetime experience?? i may not get back to bkk for 5 years or more. will then head over to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s for a quickie - right after being at tulip. finding a gem on the street near nana is hit or miss.
~~~~~~
choose 'nice' ; if you only have one day! as you know she is not a beauty by 'thai' standards but she will be the most likely to 'deliver' on a consistent basis!

choose anyone else is at your own peril!

enjoy!

Traveler1234
07-15-09, 23:25
will then head over to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s for a quickie - right after being at tulip.

suggest you consider star of light as alternative to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s

Mouse1
07-16-09, 07:17
will be making my 1st trip to tulip in late august - i only have one opportunity to have a 90 minute or 2 hour time. i have read great reviews on nice, cee, june, and dao - i like them 'big' and the wilder, the better. who should i make a reservation for - i will be there on the busiest day sunday - but will make a reservation earlier in the week. who should i pick for this once in a lifetime experience?? i may not get back to bkk for 5 years or more. will then head over to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s for a quickie - right after being at tulip. finding a gem on the street near nana is hit or miss.choose dao or nice and you won't want to head over to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s afterwards...

Barko
07-16-09, 09:48
choose dao or nice and you won't want to head over to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s afterwards...ditto (the new) jane.

Professor10
07-16-09, 15:31
Thanks to Mouse and Traveler for your helpful advice - I will follow up on them. How about having both Dao AND Nice for a duo at Tulip? Then an hour later a quick trip to SOL for a night cap? The consensus is that Nice is a sure thing, and then I would also want a duo with her and someone else as well.

Traveler1234
07-16-09, 16:09
Thanks to Mouse and Traveler for your helpful advice - I will follow up on them. How about having both Dao AND Nice for a duo at Tulip?

LOL

Depends on you - one right 'star' at Tulip with the right chemistry will keep you plenty busy and happy for a solid 2 hr session.

Zauberfee
07-16-09, 16:42
How about having both Dao AND Nice for a duo at Tulip?

How about just do the old club Eden trick and choose Dao or Nice and let her choose the second girl

This should get you much better results ...

Pita123
07-16-09, 16:52
No animosity towards people who posted about great experiences and helped others to have similarly great experiences? However I have lived in Thailand for seven years and I find the experience at Tulip to be very consistent regardless of the provider. Yes it does vary from one prostitute to another (Do you deny that they are prostitutes?) but generally speaking it has been really consistent for me.

The experience varies from prostitute to prostitute depending upon the chemistry, mood, etc. Did I somewhere claim that the women working there are not prostitutes?


People like you need to get your; 'Head Screwed on Straight' when dealing with Asians or you will quickly be reduced to 'Volenteer Victims'

ROFL People like me? Do tell!

Davidboy
07-17-09, 15:07
ROFL People like me? Do tell![/QUOTE]

Apology’s Pita 123; did not mean to point a finger at you. To rephrase what I was thinking would be to say that over the years of living here I have met more than a few folks from North America who are well educated and have good jobs; however it seems to me that more than a fair few seem to leave their brains at the airport upon arrival and then proceed to assume that they will be treated better here if they bring their Western ideals to Thailand. Now I personally am the most respectful of people no matter where I travel or their particular place in life; but to ignore that Asians have a completely different mind set than we do is not the best idea in my opinion.

I do not hang around in the ‘Farang’ ghetto much other than an occasional visit to some long time Alien Farang friends who live on Soi Nana. However when I descend the last few steps from the Nana BTS I am always mindful that now I am in the; ‘Sniper Scopes’ of the scam artists long before I see them first. They have spotted me and sized me up long before I actually see them.

The women are also particularly cunning and even though they for the most part are not educated beyond the sixth grade they are far from stupid either; far from it.

Those who come here with; ‘Hat in Hand; Western ideals are at risk.

Be polite, always be polite, keep your eyes open, do not assume you will be treated better because you are from North America and do not place Thai women on a pedestal unless you enjoy hard landings.

Are their exceptions to what I have just stated? Absolutely!

Pita123
07-17-09, 15:27
I do not hang around in the ‘Farang’ ghetto much other than an occasional visit to some long time Alien Farang friends who live on Soi Nana. However when I descend the last few steps from the Nana BTS I am always mindful that now I am in the; ‘Sniper Scopes’ of the scam artists long before I see them first. They have spotted me and sized me up long before I actually see them.

The women are also particularly cunning and even though they for the most part are not educated beyond the sixth grade they are far from stupid either; far from it.

Those who come here with; ‘Hat in Hand; Western ideals are at risk.


I expect that we are much more similar than you might suspect. :)

Mouse1
07-20-09, 12:48
Thanks to Mouse and Traveler for your helpful advice - I will follow up on them. How about having both Dao AND Nice for a duo at Tulip? Then an hour later a quick trip to SOL for a night cap? The consensus is that Nice is a sure thing, and then I would also want a duo with her and someone else as well.Each to their own, but I find one girl is enough...

Remember, the girls are not lesbians, so not necessarily into each other. The rooms and bed are small so you might find it a bit crowded. But to me it limits the GFE, as the girls are more likely to chat to each other in Thai, than to you in English.

But hey, I woudn't turn it down!

Davidboy
07-20-09, 17:24
Each to their own, but I find one girl is enough...

Remember, the girls are not lesbians, so not necessarily into each other. The rooms and bed are small so you might find it a bit crowded. But to me it limits the GFE, as the girls are more likely to chat to each other in Thai, than to you in English.

But hey, I woudn't turn it down!

I must agree! I have had more than a few; 'Three-Some's' and it was never my idea. As Mouse says; "One - on One" is my preference too.

But hey if that is your fantasy then by all means do it; try two, three and then try them all.

But I agree with Mouse because for me I like 'one-on-one'.

Pita123
07-20-09, 21:15
If I want 2 girls then I'll go to Eden. This place was built for three-somes and more-somes. The rooms at Tulip, and Snow White for that matter, are not really convenient for more than one-on-one. If you just must have a bouqet then I'd order take out.

PinkPearl
07-21-09, 01:59
If I want 2 girls then I'll go to Eden. This place was built for three-somes and more-somes. The rooms at Tulip, and Snow White for that matter, are not really convenient for more than one-on-one. If you just must have a bouqet then I'd order take out.

The rooms at Annies offer large beds for 2 girl sessions, small beds
for just a single girl. In the latter case, if you do a sleepover, at
least she will have to snuggle up close :D

http://www.anniesbangkok.com/RoomsAnnies.html

P.S. I am a schill for Annies. Aey pays me well. 10B per post. LOL

Cheers, after 3 bacardi breezers,

PP

Davidboy
07-21-09, 18:05
The rooms at Annies offer large beds for 2 girl sessions, small beds
for just a single girl. In the latter case, if you do a sleepover, at
least she will have to snuggle up close :D

http://www.anniesbangkok.com/RoomsAnnies.html

P.S. I am a schill for Annies. Aey pays me well. 10B per post. LOL

Cheers, after 3 bacardi breezers,

PP

Great! If I mention your name will I be entitled to a 20% surcharge?

Lifeingr
07-22-09, 19:32
I've been to Tulip three times and I had mixed experiences. The first time I had a girl that the mamasan choose for me and I opted for the 1 1/2 hours. In the 90 minutes I managed to come 3 times including anal BBBJ and vaginal. The girl was very attentive with a face and body of a fair 8 out of 10 and she gave a very good service, starting from the shower, continuing with a sensual body-to-body massage, BBBJ with CIM, then after relaxing 5 minutes we had a nice sex session with vaginal and anal sex. After this a short shower and then a very good massage that ended with another BBBJ and HJ to completion. Definitely a very good price/quality ratio.

The second time I choose a girl myself. Again very well experience but the first girl was better.

Third time I opted for the first girl. She was remembering me and while she was very active in the shower, during the body-to-body massage she was not making good contact. After a superb BBBJ with CIM I had some minutes of rest and then we started again. I wanted to go DATY but before this I fingered her and I discovered a sponge in her vagina! Clearly she was on her "red days". I was extremely pissed of, I wanted to go down and protest but then really I though about the girl and the problems that she might have and the only thing that I've done was to opt for a quick anal and finish in minutes. So it is obvious that Tulip is pushing the girls to work every day without caring about their personal and the clients hygiene. I want to visit the place again because the overall experience is very good but I am now very skeptical after seeing this behavior from the "management".

West Coast
07-23-09, 02:15
I've been to Tulip three times and I had mixed experiences. The first time I had a girl that the mamasan choose for me and I opted for the 1 1/2 hours. In the 90 minutes I managed to come 3 times including anal BBBJ and vaginal. The girl was very attentive with a face and body of a fair 8 out of 10 and she gave a very good service, starting from the shower, continuing with a sensual body-to-body massage, BBBJ with CIM, then after relaxing 5 minutes we had a nice sex session with vaginal and anal sex. After this a short shower and then a very good massage that ended with another BBBJ and HJ to completion. Definitely a very good price/quality ratio.

The second time I choose a girl myself. Again very well experience but the first girl was better.

Third time I opted for the first girl. She was remembering me and while she was very active in the shower, during the body-to-body massage she was not making good contact. After a superb BBBJ with CIM I had some minutes of rest and then we started again. I wanted to go DATY but before this I fingered her and I discovered a sponge in her vagina! Clearly she was on her "red days". I was extremely pissed of, I wanted to go down and protest but then really I though about the girl and the problems that she might have and the only thing that I've done was to opt for a quick anal and finish in minutes. So it is obvious that Tulip is pushing the girls to work every day without caring about their personal and the clients hygiene. I want to visit the place again because the overall experience is very good but I am now very skeptical after seeing this behavior from the "management".What was girl's name? Nice, Dow, Cee?

The Pro
07-23-09, 08:04
Why are you surprised ?

This is common to all massage places in Thailand and other places (even those where the owners might say it does not happen).

The girls use their pussy for work, do you think they will shut it down for 5 days a month?


I've been to Tulip three times and I had mixed experiences. The first time I had a girl that the mamasan choose for me and I opted for the 1 1/2 hours. In the 90 minutes I managed to come 3 times including anal BBBJ and vaginal. The girl was very attentive with a face and body of a fair 8 out of 10 and she gave a very good service, starting from the shower, continuing with a sensual body-to-body massage, BBBJ with CIM, then after relaxing 5 minutes we had a nice sex session with vaginal and anal sex. After this a short shower and then a very good massage that ended with another BBBJ and HJ to completion. Definitely a very good price/quality ratio.

The second time I choose a girl myself. Again very well experience but the first girl was better.

Third time I opted for the first girl. She was remembering me and while she was very active in the shower, during the body-to-body massage she was not making good contact. After a superb BBBJ with CIM I had some minutes of rest and then we started again. I wanted to go DATY but before this I fingered her and I discovered a sponge in her vagina! Clearly she was on her "red days". I was extremely pissed of, I wanted to go down and protest but then really I though about the girl and the problems that she might have and the only thing that I've done was to opt for a quick anal and finish in minutes. So it is obvious that Tulip is pushing the girls to work every day without caring about their personal and the clients hygiene. I want to visit the place again because the overall experience is very good but I am now very skeptical after seeing this behavior from the "management".

Member #4285
07-25-09, 22:37
Why are you surprised ?

This is common to all massage places in Thailand and other places (even those where the owners might say it does not happen).

The girls use their pussy for work, do you think they will shut it down for 5 days a month?

WTF? I would never push a girl or allow this if I run a place like this. No matter how bad the business or competition is in the town.

Member #3428
07-26-09, 00:02
WTF? I would never push a girl or allow this if I run a place like this. No matter how bad the business or competition is in the town.

All places do it... it is common business practice. It is a common question I ask before I take a girl.

Member #4285
07-26-09, 00:32
All places do it... it is common business practice. It is a common question I ask before I take a girl.
Okey if she only preform BJ/HJ!
My appetite for the P4P scene just went south.

Do you ask the girl you like or the management/mamsan or both? And I wonder if the answer is reliable? This is why prostitution should be legal, controlled and have rules.

In my case, I will not visit a place that do this thing when I come to Asia next autumn. Im good looking and successful enough without paying (if I feel the needs).

Lifeingr's post really upsets me.

Member #3428
07-26-09, 00:44
Okey if she only preform BJ/HJ!
My appetite for the P4P scene just went south.

Do you ask the girl you like or the management/mamsan or both? And I wonder if the answer is reliable? This is why prostitution should be legal, controlled and have rules.

In my case, I will not visit a place that do this thing when I come to Asia next autumn. Im good looking and successful enough without paying (if I feel the needs).

This post really upsets me.

My post, confirming that girls work when they have their period upsets you? And if you won't go to a place then you won't go to any soapie or MP or bar at all in BKK. Enjoy your time.

You are funny... they have this little yellow egg sponge they put in and keep humping away. Why should it be any different then any other day of the month. Their job is to open their legs.

Now I feel the sponge but many guys would not even know it I'm sure. So yes if i know the girl I text her in advance to make time for her and make sure she does not have her period.

If I am walking in cold to a bar I'll ask the girls many questions and make sure we lay out the ground rules. One of them is does she have her period. If she goes back with me and I feel the sponge out the door bye bye... then you could go back and argue for the bar fine. IF a MP i ask if I don't know the girl I ask her and if she says she is not and I find out she is I stop the session go down to the mamasan and ask for new girl.

Does it happen often that they try to mess me about this, nope, 98% of the time they are honest about it if you ask them about it.

Now on Soi 33, I've never been lied to about this issue. Many girls will say they have their period if they don't want to go with you also hahahaha... But many girls who have common customers / repeats if they get their period will try to lie about it and keep the customer to themselves or they just want the jobs.

With the TGF, I don't mind nailing her if I know about it ahead of time, but with P4P I don't like it.

But geez... lighten up you good looking handsum man... You're going to bust a nut before your trip NEXT year !!!!!!!!! I'll make sure the girls are well lubed up in the mean time for you cuz I'm such a nice guy.

Member #4285
07-26-09, 01:07
My post, confirming that girls work when they have their period upsets you?

No ofcourse your post dont upset me mate, I made an edit but you were to fast =) The fact upset me, the fact Lifeingr posted. The fact that this is common in the business. And im going this fall. Im sorry my english aint that good and when I used my dictionary for the word autumn it suggested "next autumn" for "i höst" (in this autumn). I obviously was wrong and I should maybe say "this autumn". Just so you know.

To the important:


Does it happen often that they try to mess me about this, nope, 98% of the time they are honest about it if you ask them about it.
This made me feel at least a little better =)



Many girls will say they have their period if they don't want to go with you also hahahaha...
I guess they have this excuse because there is to many fat and ugly farangs in their country! =P

Member #3428
07-26-09, 03:25
The fact that this is common in the business. And im going this fall. This made me feel at least a little better =)

No worries mate I'm ESL also. Actually I'm English as a fourth language. Bloody hell of a language to learn. To the important, if you ask them the girls will normally tell you the truth and the same for the mamasan's.

But honestly, from what the girls tell me, very few guys can feel the egg sponge thing. Maybe the guys are too horny or drunk to notice (or too small). But most of all I've found thai P4P girls to be mostly honest. In long term relationships they lie like the best liars in the world... but in normal work things they are usually very very honest. YMMV but that's my track record.


I guess they have this excuse because there is to many fat and ugly farangs in their country! =P

Hey now I take offense... I'm not Farang and i'm not fat (anymore).

M P Lurker
07-26-09, 14:30
But honestly, from what the girls tell me, very few guys can feel the egg sponge thing. Maybe the guys are too horny or drunk to notice (or too small). But most of all I've found thai P4P girls to be mostly honest. In long term relationships they lie like the best liars in the world... but in normal work things they are usually very very honest. YMMV but that's my track record.

Tansak,
You got a good laugh out of me on this one.
Two points.
Many if not most girls will go out of their way to either deny there is a sponge in there or to come up with some silly reason for it, rather than admit its their period or about to be. That's my long experience over the years.
So yeh they are real truthful! ;) (not)
Its probably not something they feel they can took openly about.

I reckon I just about always know there is a sponge because many Asian girl's channels are not really that long. Shortened by a sponge, I experience immediate difficulty in getting in there. A finger probe then detects the sponge all too easily. It feels very rough. Only a serious case of genital warts could approximate that.
Now my finger is definitely way shorter than my dick :D
So if the finger reaches the sponge easily, its obvious the dick is going to have problems.

I always insist that the girl take the sponge out and mostly they do, even after denying there was one in the first place. ;) The sponge is risky as I have experienced condom breakage due to friction against the sponge when I had a Farang girl with sponge still in a few years back.

If they can't take the sponge out due to too much period blood, then I simply can't screw them.

Tulip girls are probably trained to admit its their period and offer extended blow job and anal as compensation, but they do have to work when its their period.

Lifeingr
07-26-09, 15:27
Anyone know how you ask in Thai if a girl has it's period? !

Run Mann
07-26-09, 15:35
Anyone know how you ask in Thai if a girl has it's period? !


Have men mai?

Me men mai?

Lifeingr
07-26-09, 15:39
Have men mai?

Me men mai?

Thanks Mann! At least next time I'll give a try to ask and maybe I'll get a honest reply although I am not optimistic. But at least I'll have an excuse to protest to her or to mamasan.

Lifeingr
07-26-09, 15:42
What was girl's name? Nice, Dow, Cee?


I think she was Kat.

M P Lurker
07-26-09, 18:27
Have men mai?

Me men mai?
"men" if pronounced short means a porcupine or a bad smell ;) depending on tone.

Pronounced a little longer, is borrowed from English word "menstruate", but only the prefix.
http://www.thai-language.com/id/33455
shows that pronunciation needs to be long to be understandable.

bpen meyn mai?
"meyn" sounds like "main" (almost but with wide grin mouth shape, lips almost touching)

More formally correct is:
mee bpra-jum duean mai?
("jum" pronounced as in jump).

However its not very polite to ask at all! After encountering a sponge, then would have a reason to ask.

M P Lurker
07-26-09, 18:39
Thanks Mann! At least next time I'll give a try to ask and maybe I'll get a honest reply although I am not optimistic. But at least I'll have an excuse to protest to her or to mamasan.
Good bargirls (but not all) will tell you before you take them away and many will refuse to go for this reason. Bad mamasans (most of them) will tell the girl to shutup and just use a sponge.

But I don't know what is the protocol at Tulip. Some experienced Tulip goer will know. I got super lucky and never encountered that time of month at Tulip by a strange quirk of my travel dates following a monthly pattern. :D

Member #3428
07-26-09, 22:36
Tansak,
You got a good laugh out of me on this one.
Two points.
Many if not most girls will go out of their way to either deny there is a sponge in there or to come up with some silly reason for it, rather than admit its their period or about to be. That's my long experience over the years.
So yeh they are real truthful! ;) (not)
Its probably not something they feel they can took openly about.

Glad I could give you a smile :D Basically I disagree with you. You and I both have been around long enough to most places that the girls won't lie to us about this issue.

For a newbie... OK maybe you're right. But when they see my fat arse walk in the doors generally they are truthful as they know the wallet will open up sooner or later...

PinkPearl
07-26-09, 22:57
However its not very polite to ask at all! After encountering a sponge, then would have a reason to ask.

Why is that, when there is so much deception in the world, should you
just blindly trust someone? After encountering it might be too late, no?

Should mongers conform to what Thai people think is polite society, in
other words something comparable to Victorian {1800's} England?

Member #4285
07-26-09, 23:51
Many girls will say they have their period if they don't want to go with you also hahahaha...


I guess they have this excuse because there is to many fat and ugly farangs in their country! =P


Hey now I take offense... I'm not Farang and i'm not fat (anymore).
But when they see my fat arse walk in the doors...
\o\ /o/ \o\ /o/

Mouse1
07-27-09, 09:14
It has been said that girls who live together menstruate together. Looking on the internet the evidence seems mixed. But if true, it must be a problem for places like Annie's where the girls live on the premises, and perhaps other places like Tulip where the girls stay and work for long hours in close physical proximity. Just a passing thought.

Pita123
07-27-09, 13:24
WTF? I would never push a girl or allow this if I run a place like this. No matter how bad the business or competition is in the town.
If you run a place like this you aren't going to pay any attention to it because you have a steady flow of money coming in. If business is bad and competition is fierce and this is your livelihood, you are going to turn a blind eye to it.

Pita123
07-27-09, 14:05
I visited Tulip on Saturday. I walked in and up to the counter and just said "up to you". She sent me upstairs with Jane. Her body isn't one I'd typically choose but the service was good. She was giving me a BBBJ before we go to the shower. She has an amazing mouth on her and for that reason I'll be see her again. A couple of shots as usually and I left with a smile on my face and weakness in the knees.

Member #4285
07-27-09, 16:22
If you run a place like this you aren't going to pay any attention to it because you have a steady flow of money coming in.
Actually I would and thats just not a wishful thinking to improve my conscience. For seven years I have been in charge for a company and I have alwayes put my staff in the first. But then I am from a country with these traditions and welfare. But recently this system is starting to break up because to the heavy immigrant flow. But this is a topic far away from this forum =)

I wounder how many days off, these girls have in a month. Maybe they want to work when they have the red period because sometimes they want to be free when they dont have it. Im more and more sceptical to this countrys way to handle this, but I will come and see with my own eyes before I make a real judgement. So far the FKK's in Germany is the best way to deal with this. Pay admission, keep all earnings.
Maybe I would open up a MP in Bangkok when I arrive were the girls pay lets say 3000 for each day they sit there, but they keep all when they go with a customer.

But, I guess it would not work because other MP would seend the police because Im not taking or giving bribes.

Raptors
07-27-09, 18:00
Normally they have 1 day off per week but can't choose their day off it is fixed by the shop depending on status of the girl.

+ they have a couple of days off on Songkran and new year when the shop closes. That's about it. You cannot compare a shop to the company you ran. This is a massage parlor business in Thailand. Make a search through this thread and you will see what this means.


Actually I would and thats just not a wishful thinking to improve my conscience. For seven years I have been in charge for a company and I have alwayes put my staff in the first. But then I am from a country with these traditions and welfare. But recently this system is starting to break up because to the heavy immigrant flow. But this is a topic far away from this forum =)

I wounder how many days off, these girls have in a month. Maybe they want to work when they have the red period because sometimes they want to be free when they dont have it. Im more and more sceptical to this countrys way to handle this, but I will come and see with my own eyes before I make a real judgement. So far the FKK's in Germany is the best way to deal with this. Pay admission, keep all earnings.
Maybe I would open up a MP in Bangkok when I arrive were the girls pay lets say 3000 for each day they sit there, but they keep all when they go with a customer.

But, I guess it would not work because other MP would seend the police because Im not taking or giving bribes.

Lifeingr
07-27-09, 18:55
Actually I would and thats just not a wishful thinking to improve my conscience. ..............


So this is why it is a good idea to start boycotting places that we have a confirmation that are doing this and other things against the girls. Maybe OUR behavior as clients could change a bit the habits of the industry.

M P Lurker
07-27-09, 20:29
Glad I could give you a smile :D Basically I disagree with you. You and I both have been around long enough to most places that the girls won't lie to us about this issue.

For a newbie... OK maybe you're right. But when they see my fat arse walk in the doors generally they are truthful as they know the wallet will open up sooner or later...
Yes you make an important distinction. Girls won't lie to regular customers so much, when its going to be obvious.
But can still be devious.

The lies I have experienced were when I was new to them even though speaking Thai and obviously experienced.

M P Lurker
07-27-09, 20:44
Should mongers conform to what Thai people think is polite society, in
other words something comparable to Victorian {1800's} England?
Crack me up!

If you want to be well liked in Thailand, you need to be polite as possible. I have to make a special effort as I am not naturally the most polite person in the world and have embarassed myself on occasions.

But if you don't give a shit, .....

1Ball
07-27-09, 22:24
Crack me up!

If you want to be well liked in Thailand, you need to be polite as possible.
Even if they are not polite to you. (of course, never to your face)

An interesting double standard.

Pita123
07-28-09, 18:28
So this is why it is a good idea to start boycotting places that we have a confirmation that are doing this and other things against the girls. Maybe OUR behavior as clients could change a bit the habits of the industry.

I don't see this as 'against the girls'. It is their choice. They could always go get a job at 7-11 but apparently it doesn't pay as well.

By all means start your boycott. It won't change anything. But if you feel better then by all means start the picket lines.

The Pro
07-29-09, 01:23
Ignorance.

That is the only chains holding girls to places, ignorance that somewhere else offers better money for the same job.

This is why the crap places get the ugly girls or the ones who are bad performers.

And the better places get the better looking girls or better performers.

The girls themselves want to work, as they want to make money. End of story.


Actually I would and thats just not a wishful thinking to improve my conscience. For seven years I have been in charge for a company and I have alwayes put my staff in the first. But then I am from a country with these traditions and welfare. But recently this system is starting to break up because to the heavy immigrant flow. But this is a topic far away from this forum =)

I wounder how many days off, these girls have in a month. Maybe they want to work when they have the red period because sometimes they want to be free when they dont have it. Im more and more sceptical to this countrys way to handle this, but I will come and see with my own eyes before I make a real judgement. So far the FKK's in Germany is the best way to deal with this. Pay admission, keep all earnings.
Maybe I would open up a MP in Bangkok when I arrive were the girls pay lets say 3000 for each day they sit there, but they keep all when they go with a customer.

But, I guess it would not work because other MP would seend the police because Im not taking or giving bribes.

Lifeingr
07-29-09, 12:21
I don't see this as 'against the girls'. It is their choice. They could always go get a job at 7-11 but apparently it doesn't pay as well.

By all means start your boycott. It won't change anything. But if you feel better then by all means start the picket lines.

Allow me to believe that the situation is not so simple and that it is very possible that the girls don't have such broad choices. Regarding the boycott as you say it is my decision; I just don't understand why you are so much affected and you are replying this way.

Centaurus
07-29-09, 15:06
Allow me to believe that the situation is not so simple and that it is very possible that the girls don't have such broad choices. Regarding the boycott as you say it is my decision; I just don't understand why you are so much affected and you are replying this way.How interesting!

I want OTH back.

Pita123
07-29-09, 16:23
Allow me to believe that the situation is not so simple and that it is very possible that the girls don't have such broad choices. Regarding the boycott as you say it is my decision; I just don't understand why you are so much affected and you are replying this way.

Your first sentence exemplifies the reason for the last sentence. You seem to get these notions in your head which you believe but have no basis in reality. You appear to be clueless and I have no patience for clueless folks.


How interesting!

I want OTH back.

It was good to have someone around who knew a thing or two about Thailand. I only wish that I had the experience he has under his belt to share. Only the good parts of course. ;)

Member #3428
07-29-09, 21:51
So this is why it is a good idea to start boycotting places that we have a confirmation that are doing this and other things against the girls. Maybe OUR behavior as clients could change a bit the habits of the industry.

Listen, boycotting is great if it gives your willy a rise. But it won't change anything. MP's and the way things are have gone on forever. There was someone wanting to boycott annies for some reason, maybe you, I don't remember who but they were claiming the girls were financially exploited.

We go and exploit these girls everytime we go in there. These girls are not forced to open their legs and suck you off, yes they might have bad issues in their life and need to do a work but the average regular salary is what, 7,000 baht a month in thai or so. Girls can make this in one day. And all they have to do is block our their minds and make fake noises and get your willy to stand up.

Yes some places take advantage and profit off the girls and even I have some issues with some mamasan's and bar owners but I just don't go to those bars if I have issues with how things are operated. I don't post on a sex forum because we are here to talk about sex with these girls. So if you have a major issue with things then you stop and use your left or right hand to get off.

Things are they way they are and if you want to sit on a high horse then why are you on a sex forum?

PinkPearl
07-29-09, 22:21
We go and exploit these girls everytime we go in there.

Really? What if a guy looks like Brad Pitt, the girls are all giggly over him,
he takes care of the lady in terms of love making and orgasms, and then
pays them for it? From what i have heard farang guys are much more
preferable to Thai guys, and the farang gives them unbelievably huge
amounts of dough. Thai men, OTOH, are often lazy and suck the ladies
into giving them their wages which they spend on alcohol, other women
and gambling.

Tim Bone
07-29-09, 22:22
hmmmmmm..... seems like this tread is turning as bad as the Annie's tread as well. Anyone who has actually been there and banged a girl? How was the experience?

Bangkok Xx Bob
07-29-09, 22:32
Weekly visit yesterday - as great as usual.

Member #4285
07-30-09, 01:14
Normally they have 1 day off per week but can't choose their day off it is fixed by the shop depending on status of the girl.

+ they have a couple of days off on Songkran and new year when the shop closes. That's about it. You cannot compare a shop to the company you ran.
Maybe I cant, and maybe it's just my way to justify my new hobby. As a matter of fact I have not always been on this side. Maybe it was the first visit to Berlin and FKK Artemis that changed me from "aginst prostitution" to "too prostitution" (geez, i'll hope that makes any sense, my english needs large improvements) or its just that im not as good looking and successful with the ladies as I remember myself and thats why I like my new hobby. Anyway, I always reason that the best way to get the facts, is with the own eyes.


From what i have heard farang guys are much more
preferable to Thai guys
And from what I have heard is that sometimes farangs dont even have to pay :-O


hmmmmmm..... seems like this tread is turning as bad as the Annie's tread as well. Anyone who has actually been there and banged a girl? How was the experience?

Patience young padawan, visit Bangkok first I have to do. Late september you visit this board. Hrm.

Mikle
08-01-09, 06:00
Normally they have 1 day off per week but can't choose their day off it is fixed by the shop depending on status of the girl.I am afraid I have got reliable info that in most MP have one or two day off a month, not a week. As well as go-go bar, or bar.

Plus some longer periods songhkran and the national holidays the shop must stay closed.

Tulip organizes one (or two? ) small holiday-trip all together. Akane brings all the girls all together one week in koh samui every year (in end of January). But that pertains the shop policy.

M P Lurker
08-01-09, 09:33
I am afraid I have got reliable info that in most MP have one or two day off a month, not a week. As well as go-go bar, or bar.

Plus some longer periods songhkran and the national holidays the shop must stay closed.

Tulip organizes one (or two? ) small holiday-trip all together. Akane brings all the girls all together one week in koh samui every year (in end of January). But that pertains the shop policy.
Shops vary.Annies closes very little indeed.

Raptors info on Tulip is reliable, unless recent policy change. Girls do normally get one day off per week, and they need it, however can still be called in to work if customer makes a booking.

Raptors
08-01-09, 09:46
Shops vary.Annies closes very little indeed.

Raptors info on Tulip is reliable, unless recent policy change. Girls do normally get one day off per week, and they need it, however can still be called in to work if customer makes a booking.Thanks soapfan. True that sometimes girls work on their day off when booking is made. Absolutely they need.

Munchie
08-01-09, 18:09
This reports is a couple of years out of date but still adds a little grist to the mill !

June 2007 My first visit to Tulip massage following the rave reviews on this and another site.

I had just flown in from Manila and was looking forward to Thai food and hospitality - in fact after Manila Bangkok was like coming home to the west - I know it sounds funny but after Philippines, Thailand seems first world -

Anyway looking for Tulip - Thong Lo BTS stop in case anyone is wondering and hasn't RTFF.

Its funny I have been to Thailand quite a few times and been mongering a few times - certainly not a newbie- I have always taken the advice from this site ( and another one ) and have always found that advice to be on the whole accurate. But after a break from visits I am walking into Tulip feeling like a newbie - is this place kosher? - is all that chat on the forum a load of bollocks ? - can you really fuck the girls up the arse here ? So feeling rather hassled, hot and sweaty and nervous I entered Tulip.

Was greeted by girl behind counter and asked how long I wanted a massage for - 1.5 hours is my reply and I was shown the book - I just picked someone at random but made sure to ask - "does she take it in back ?" response was something along the lines of "I think they all do it in back !" - OK .I picked someone out of the book..girl came up stairs and then took me up to one of the rooms - I must say first impressions I thought the the place was a bit of a dump - I guess I was expecting something more upmarket - rooms are a little small and poky - despite my mongering experience I was getting more and more of a bad feeling about this place - not sure what I was expecting from the girls but he vibe just did not seem right - so before clothes were removed I called time - said I had made a mistake and was going to leave !

Looking back that might not have been very nice for the girl - maybe she or the management thought she did something wrong I didn't know. Either way the girl and reception seemed unphased by it - no charge etc. Anyway ( memory is a little hazy here - I either made to leave the the Establishment or I actually did but then decided to strap a pair on and go back in ! ( bloody crazy farang ! )

So take 2 - speaking to the girl on reception again - remembering the rave reviews that I had read on the forum ( and this is back in 2007 ) I asked if Yok was available - she was ! she came out and lead me upstairs.

Yok was great - I did everything I wanted to, I would highly recommend but I did not get the enthusiasm that others had described ( hey maybe I'm a crap shag ) but it was still great. I avoided the massage and went straight for the sex - which I think the girls may not like but there you are. I cant really write a penthouse forum letter but she gave a nice BJ and she had a nice pussy - I was determined to COF as this was something I wanted to do and hadn't done much of - it took a bit of effort not to just come in her ( NB all of this was with a condom well apart from the BJ ). Out of embarrassment I suppose, I said I want to do something special as I took of the condom and waived my dick near her face - obviously she knew what was coming ....anyway after I came on her face - again out of embarrassment said something stupid like "has anyone ever done that before ?" and she said "no you first" - which made us both laugh !

Round 2 was up the arse and very good it was too. Total damage 600 baht for 1.5 hours massage and I gave Yok 1700 - I wasn't sure about the tipping thing then ( there had been a Lot of debate at the time - but she seemed happy enough. She gave me a Tulip business card and wrote her name on it - which following her superstar status I will keep like a celebrity autograph !!! Maybe I could sell it on e bay - any buyers ??.

Walked back out into the Bangkok night a happy man.

06/06/09 Update - Yok is no longer working at Tulip according to the girl I spoke to ( visited Tulip yesterday will write report soonish ) she is unwell - I got the impression that something is seriously wrong and that she will not be working again... ever - I could not bring myself to ask if she had hiv/ Aids but I hinted strongly and asked repeatedly what was wrong with her but could not get a straight answer..

Back to 2007 - Visited Tulip again after my beach holiday in Samui - this time ( again following advice of forums ) I asked for Teena. Another great session although I don't think that she is that keen on BJs when she was sucking my dick she kept stopping as if she wanted to move on to something else which was in congruent with the enthusiasm that she showed in general. I remember I asked her how many customers she got per day and she spoke back in Thai in such a way that made me think she didn't appreciate the question - anyway 2 great shags one up the arse - ( all with condom apart from the BJ ) all good and same financial damage.

Highly recomended

Cheers

Munchie

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Munchie
08-01-09, 18:13
Arrived last night from sunny London got myself down to the lovely Nana Hotel. A warm welcome from familiar staff. Great hotel me thinks.

First thing I thought I would visit Tulip and break my duck before doing anything else. Having been there a couple of years earlier I though t that I would have no trouble finding it. So of I set down Sukumvit rd around 6 ish walk walk walk I must have walked at least a mile if not more could I find it? Could I hell, I knew it was near one of the BTS stations but which one? An hour or so later I am very hot and sweaty and fast losing my sense of humour. Too many people too many cars after London it was noticeable how the car has still got right of way here. How long do you have to weight to cross the road? There I was one of these Frang with a pissed off look on my face trying to move through the crowd at western pace. I had to get back to Nana. Find an Internet shop and look up the address. Found it. NB THONG LO BTS!

Went in and asked to see the book. After Yok and Teena I wanted top try someone new so opted for Pim. She was called and off we went. Had a great time she was friendly and chatty and after my 2 hour search for the place I was relieved and relatively chilled now I had found it (I was actually thinking it might end up closed before I found it!)

BTW the place looked clean and tidy. Maybe my standards are slipping or else they have tidied up the place but it looked better than first visit in 2007

Booked one and half hope massage. Pim was great. Highly recommended as said friendly and chatty. BJ in the shower. All the way down _ I had to stop her or else this was gong to be a very fast and short visit. Onto the bed and I let her take the lead she asked me to lie down on my front and proceeded to give me a lovely erotic massage with her pussy rubbing up and down my body. She rimmed my arse which was very pleasant and sucked my toes which I have to say was a bit too much for me. It felt nice and everything but I felt bad for her. Its not something I would ask someone to do. Funny how I don't feel the same way about the arse licking! ?

The rest was the usual full sex and then later on up the arse!

Following ion from discussions on this site I Had an interesting "conversation" with her (I use " for conversation as her English is not that great but a lot better than my Thai!)

I asked her about condom use. "do you use them all the time? " What if customer not like" a little tricky at first but once she got what I was saying she looked at me like I was nuts ie she reckons she always uses them. "what about the other giklrls? " I did not mention this site but pushed her further. I said there was a rumour some girls in Tulip do not use condoms. Again she was adamant they all did and thought I was crazy asking. Might be bullshit or might be the result of recent discussions on this and other sites but I was a bit pushed to see what incentive it would be for her or the others not to use them. They get enough customers anyway. Why would they need to agree to not using them?

I also asked her about Yok. "she not work here no more" "she sick never work here again". "why whats wrong with her? ". "she not well". I asked a few more times but she would not say what was wrong with her. I could not bring myself to ask if she had HIV/AIDS. I don't know but there are many other serious illnesses a person can get! The way the conversation was going and my questions about condoms I would have thought that I would have got a clue from Pim if that (HIV) was the case but I really didn't.

Conversation moved on. She usually has Korean or Japanese clients. Who have smaller dicks. She has some difficulty accommodating farang cocks in her arse, pussy and mouth BTW her pussy was small. No baby has pushed its head through that thing! We had a laugh about big farang dicks (I am not that big) She showed me she had smaller condoms for them and bigger ones for farang Then she asked me why farang always "want it in back? " Sounds like we are all asking for anal these days. I gave her my theory (the rise growth and spread of pornograpghy has meant we have all been exposed to the concept of anal and we all want a go. Seriously I reckon more western women are up for anal these days compared with 20 years ago never mind the blokes).

Then she told me how some farang come in and just fuck the girls up the arse for a full 2 hours. No massage "they come in and want bam bam bam bam up the arse no massage or anything" So guys have the decency to let them give you a bit of massage! Mind you, you are a better man than me (Viagra or not) if you can fuck someone up the arse none stop for 2 hours.

Considering the service I had just received and delivered in such a nice and friendly way I gave her 2000 baht which she was happy with. As I left I got a cough sweet and she told me as I was leaving if I wanted to fuck any of the other girls I should call to book first.

Cheers

Munchie

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Munchie
08-01-09, 18:14
Second day in Bangkok I visited Tulip in the afternoon and this time asked for Cee. Asked for an hour instead of 90 minutes

Great service but not as much chat as the day before.

BJ in the shower where she took the whole of my dick into her mouth then onto the bed for my dick sucking - she was really good at it then she moved down and started tonguing my arse which felt amazing. She sometime hummed when she was sucking which added to it all both physically and mentally.

Again I went for anal and she took it up the arse like a trooper.

Then shower and then back on the bed again for a nice long BJ.

I visited Tulips again at the end of my trip and again asked for Cee - same great service.

One difference I noticed between Cee and Pim was that after cumming and showering and then waiting to get in the mood again Cee did not really seem into the idea of massaging me and it appeared to me she was only up for being sexual (unlike Pim). It was as if Pim sees massage as part of the deal and Cee doesn't but no worries either way.

Would definitely recommend Tulip massage

Best

Munchie