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Swami2
11-25-17, 06:27
What are the current recommendation at Annies?

I had my first soapy experience at Annies with 38 about 5 months and it was not a good one. I liked this lady, but she turned out to be a complete waste of time and did not agree to even the lightest kissing, not even a peck on the mouth. I just thought all the soapy experiences are like that until my research took me here. Their facebook used to very active, now not so much active as earlier, so not sure about the current line up. I am looking for a slim girl who is into DFK, gives lengthy soapies and then some CBJ / FS.

Lion55
11-27-17, 13:56
What are the current recommendation at Annies?
I am looking for a slim girl who is into DFK, gives lengthy soapies and then some CBJ / FS.See my comment below re #3. She meets your criteria. In my case BJ was uncovered but I'm pretty sure she'd be fine with CBJ if requested.

Swami2
12-01-17, 06:44
See my comment below re #3. She meets your criteria. In my case BJ was uncovered but I'm pretty sure she'd be fine with CBJ if requested.Thank you, Lion. Number 3 looks a tad too old for my liking and I do no feel that vibe with her.

I will however visit Annie's this time around as well. I may not select a girl, but will definitely go in to see how they are doing. I think it may be better to go in after about 30 minutes after their opening time in the morning.

Holonia
12-07-17, 19:30
Just return from Bangkok, Annie's was the worst experience.

Finished to eat downstairs in a very expensive mexican rest. No that good also.

Got to Annie's around 7 pm, I thing there were 15 girls, place is so small and it feels not good to wait and choose and girls are 6 to 8. No stunners here.

I can't understand why there is a section in the forum about this place, its a small place with ugly girls and just few girls to choose.

They told me 1.5 hour and I got just 1 hour.

After been in Pattaya and in Poseidon in Bangkok I can't understand why you all talking about this place.

Heatssss522
12-08-17, 04:07
I'm going to be visiting Bangkok next month for the first time in about a year and a half. Do any of the Annie's regulars have info on whereabouts of former #16. Has she emerged at another shop? If not do you think Aye would have her contact info?

Thanks in advance for any info.I had two sessions with her, one at her age of 28 and other 29, she told me in my first meet that she will quit at the age of 30. She is talkative and so much fun, miss her!

Lion55
12-09-17, 00:13
I had two sessions with her, one at her age of 28 and other 29, she told me in my first meet that she will quit at the age of 30. She is talkative and so much fun, miss her!Another SP who used to work at Annie's told me that Care is working in either Singapore or Malaysia. Not sure whether in P4 P or otherwise.

Penguin69
12-15-17, 19:11
I noticed that websites for all of the Dr BJ establishments no longer show prices and have a message referencing some change in internet laws. On the other hand the websites of all of the other massage joints I looked at still show pricing. Anyone have any intelligence on what is going on?I emailed and got info: 2500 b for 90 mins all incl package. Seems odd they are reluctant to put it up on site.

Christian G
02-24-18, 15:14
http://anniesbangkok.com/

It's seems Annies closed down and all the girls move to Crome in soi 7/1.

Lion55
02-24-18, 18:06
http://anniesbangkok.com/

It's seems Annies closed down and all the girls move to Crome in soi 7/1.Wow. I wonder how that is going to play out. As of late I've found that the SPs at Chrome are much more service oriented than those at Annie's. Will the former Annie's girls be able to keep up the standard. IMHO I don't think Chrome has sufficient demand or rooms to absorb all of the Annie's girls.

Dr BJ
02-26-18, 09:21
Hi,

Just so you all know. For to a set of smart business reasons Annie's has now moved all its staff to chrome on Soi 7/1 this means all Annie's regular customers can get the same server in newer cleaner rooms, in a closer location to the sky train and also at only 2000 bht all in. The VIP rooms are also light years ahead. I would say this means chrome has the most staff available in one massage shop compared to any other shop in the area.

Syzygies
03-01-18, 04:10
Hi,

Just so you all know. For to a set of smart business reasons Annie's has now moved all its staff to chrome on Soi 7/1 this means all Annie's regular customers can get the same server in newer cleaner rooms, in a closer location to the sky train and also at only 2000 bht all in. The VIP rooms are also light years ahead. I would say this means chrome has the most staff available in one massage shop compared to any other shop in the area.This certainly dispels those myths about a lack of a very close connection between Annies and Chrome bars (probably Wood also), in terms of practical ownership and management. Ha ha.

I certainly always preferred Chrome bar rooms over old Annies rooms, and liked to use VIP rooms when available. I suppose there is a problem of too many girls and other staff to start with. Would be nice if all those Thai boys hanging around Chrome got kicked out. It gives me a bad vibe of working girls and "Pseudo Pimp" BF working / staying in same building, which may or may not be true. Probably only Thai boys want to work in same location where his girl gets fucked. Tell me it isn't so.

I prefer a Thai Mamasan as well, but that is just a personal preference. At least we don't have a clueless Japanese guy to deal with like in some massage shops.

Franciscass
03-03-18, 09:02
In Annie's it was 2500 for 90 minutes now "only" 2000 for 60 minutes with the same provider. Hard to see this as a better deal.

Following the relocation and the increased competition some ladies I imagine when they find themselves going home empty handed will migrate to the lower end BJ shop across the road or leave to work the regular massage scene for "tips".

For what it's worth its sad to see the demise of Annie's, I was a big fan in its earlier days but it was inevitable with the business model it employed in recent years along with sadly poor management.

Syzygies
03-04-18, 14:18
Following the relocation and the increased competition some ladies I imagine when they find themselves going home empty handed will migrate to the lower end BJ shop across the road or leave to work the regular massage scene for "tips".

For what it's worth its sad to see the demise of Annie's, I was a big fan in its earlier days but it was inevitable with the business model it employed in recent years along with sadly poor management.Annies always had unacceptable quality rooms, I think (as long as I remember), so finally this mattered. The staff can be split between Chrome and Wood, but still they will be over stocked until natural attrition normalises it. Annies had a lot of customers, so unless they transfer successfully, girls will be earning a lot less. It is the large regular customer base that meant they never wanted to leave there. Guys just kept coming in the door.

Don't know if will get to rooms full state or not in the new location. Personally I much preferred Chrome and Wood premises despite being in the walk of shame Soi. LOL.

EihTooms
03-04-18, 15:33
Following the relocation and the increased competition some ladies I imagine when they find themselves going home empty handed will migrate to the lower end BJ shop across the road or leave to work the regular massage scene for "tips".
Ordinarily this would go in the Bangkok Reports or another thread. But initially it might be Annie's-related. I saw many new faces among the girls sitting outside Kasalong (BJ) Bar off Sois 8 and 6 during the dayshift today. More new ones at one time than I have seen since it opened. I have not studied an Annie's lineup in a few years so can't say if they are Annie's refugees or not. But quite possibly so.

Franciscass
03-04-18, 16:58
It surprises me that they didn't rebrand Chrome as the new location for Annie's. Although it was rundown, had a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor lineup I still felt the name Annie's because of its former glory still stood for something in Bangkok's P4 P scene whereas Chrome has no brand appeal.

The reason for closing as stated by the good doc. Was for "a set of smart business reasons", perhaps a problem with renewing the lease, maybe redevelopment of the site but also possibly it just wasn't making money and the smart owners came to the conclusion the name no longer had any value.

Breadman
03-04-18, 17:28
In Annie's it was 2500 for 90 minutes now "only" 2000 for 60 minutes with the same provider. Hard to see this as a better deal.

Following the relocation and the increased competition some ladies I imagine when they find themselves going home empty handed will migrate to the lower end BJ shop across the road or leave to work the regular massage scene for "tips".

For what it's worth its sad to see the demise of Annie's, I was a big fan in its earlier days but it was inevitable with the business model it employed in recent years along with sadly poor management.Cream always rises to the top, good looking girls will always make money over their lesser competition. Ugly girls will be forced out, better lookers will stay on. Girls will also be happier with nicer rooms as well.

Red Kilt
03-05-18, 09:32
It surprises me that they didn't rebrand Chrome as the new location for Annie's. <SNIP>

I still felt the name Annie's because of its former glory still stood for something in Bangkok's P4 P scene whereas Chrome has no brand appeal. I agree with Francis.

Annie's was my introduction to Sukhumvit sex adventure tours around 20 years ago and since then I have always stopped by there on every subsequent visit (despite the declining quality rooms).

I have had drinks at the bar with the original (and wonderful) Annie herself served by her daughter Aae (spelled in various ways) during the halcyon years. It's a pity Annie's has gone. I think Chrome has lost an opportunity to capitalize in some way on us dedicated and loyal Annie fans by not linking itself more closely to Annie's.

Admin2
03-09-18, 17:54
Any chance this is closed for remodeling? I never got in Annies so I have no idea how bad it got in there but most of you guys say it was pretty nasty.

I did walk down there once to get a look at the place and some tout came up to me and was pushing some other place down there. I told him that I had already had sex that day and wasn't really looking to fuck, I had just walked down here to see the place because it was famous.

He said "Famous? They not famous. Famous if you like grandmother maybe!

He seemed truly indignant that I had called it famous.

Allover
03-09-18, 18:44
Annies was the most famous P4 P venue in the history of the BKK sex scene. It was even run down the first time I visited in the late 90's. The service was great for many years though. I remember getting my 90 minutes and three pops when I reached an age where I didn't think I could come three times. Olive was my usual provider there and she was quite attractive in her younger years. It's hard to find them tall and skinny like Olive. As Franciscass and Red Kilt have mentioned, I am also surprised Chrome didn't change its name to Annies. I'm not sure why it closed but they had difficulty finding attractive women for quite a while now just like other PPV venues.

I hope the lovely Aey is doing well and will come on this board to say good bye and let us know more about the closing. From reports here it doesn't seem like she is working at Chrome.

Syzygies
03-10-18, 09:36
Any chance this is closed for remodeling? I never got in Annies so I have no idea how bad it got in there but most of you guys say it was pretty nasty.
It's possible but I don't know how likely. Don't even know if it's an option or if decision has been made yet. It's unlikely a good answer can be given till Management announces something.

Sunlover2
03-10-18, 17:35
At the end Annie's was operating as a tourist trap decades past its sell date. Experienced Bangkok punters knew it was a weak option vs. The competition that is so often discussed on this MB. Go back in the thread and read all the negative reports.

Just saying.

SL.

Red Kilt
03-11-18, 03:26
At the end Annie's was operating as a tourist trap decades past its sell date. Experienced Bangkok punters knew it was a weak option vs. The competition that is so often discussed on this MB. Go back in the thread and read all the negative reports. My posts about the decline and demise of Annie's were made in sadness rather than naivity SL. I was very much aware of how it had slipped since Aey (Annie's daughter) left the management.

My post was more directed to questioning why Chrome has not linked itself to the "old" Annie's and included some reference to a re-branding that one assumes is likely to be an improvement.

Anyway, I am not qualified to suggest a business model to bar and MP owners except for around 40 years as a punter, which surely counts for something.

Syzygies
03-11-18, 03:44
My posts about the decline and demise of Annie's were made in sadness rather than naivity SL. I was very much aware of how it had slipped since Aey (Annie's daughter) left the management.
Left the management? Ha ha! Never heard anything like that. Less time in attendance would be a lot closer to the truth, from what I hear. Likely to have been very busy I'm sure and reported to visit all 3 shops, in overseeing mode. Aey has always been the "big boss" in my view, since I became aware of Annies.

Decline I don't know. In my early visits to Annies I did not find any girls doable. In later times, there started to be some girls I would consider. Is that decline? Standard of the girls was the most important thing, although I found it hard to cope with substandard rooms.

There used be another forum starting with W where posters seemed fixated on Annies, over other shops. I don't know why. This was a few years back. They were mostly idiot posters in my view with a lot of smart ass one liner posts like a Twitter setup, and almost zero detailed informative posts. So I got bored with that forum extremely quickly. Never checked it again. Someone might know if Annies is still a dominant topic there.

I guess "Decline" means that punters became aware there were cheaper shops with "prettier" girls or pornstar girls. If I find the right pretty girl that suits me, the shop becomes of low consequence to me.

Red Kilt
03-11-18, 10:15
Left the management? Ha ha! Never heard anything like that. Less time in attendance would be a lot closer to the truth, from what I hear. Likely to have been very busy I'm sure and reported to visit all 3 shops, in overseeing mode. Aey has always been the "big boss" in my view, since I became aware of Annies.
Why do you have to comment as usual when you clearly DO NOT KNOW any more about it than me and are making assumptions, Mr Syzygies, the self-appointed know-all about Bangkok.

You admit yourself in numerous posts within the last 18 months you did not like Annie's any more.

I have spent many hours chatting with Aey at the bar and I saw AT FIRST HAND how well she ran Annie's on behalf of her mother. This is probably before your time.

When she went missing from the MP ("less time in attendance" to use your phrase) it immediately started to decline.
The fact that it has now closed proves my point. She must no longer have her finger in the pie to any great extent as I am certain she would not have tolerated the decline in both services and amenities.

Chris71
03-11-18, 12:00
Today I passed the old site of Annies. There is now a Mexican restaurant in it.

Franciscass
03-11-18, 12:45
Why do you have to comment as usual when you clearly DO NOT KNOW any more about it than me and are making assumptions, Mr Syzygies, the self-appointed know-all about Bangkok.

You admit yourself in numerous posts within the last 18 months you did not like Annie's any more.

I have spent many hours chatting with Aey at the bar and I saw AT FIRST HAND how well she ran Annie's on behalf of her mother. This is probably before your time.

When she went missing from the MP ("less time in attendance" to use your phrase) it immediately started to decline.
The fact that it has now closed proves my point. She must no longer have her finger in the pie to any great extent as I am certain she would not have tolerated the decline in both services and amenities.In total agreement on your analysis. The decline of Annie's and the reasons have been well documented on this forum. Its business model was trading on its brand name to attract newbie visitors through online marketing and achieve higher than normal margins by employing low paid staff. I find it hard to believe they had a regular expat trade, why would anybody who was vaguely familiar with the Bangkok P4P drop 2500 there for unattractive providers in substandard facilities, doesn't make sense and yes the recent management style resulted in low customer experience. I still feel the name has some value and they should consider reopening Annie's at some other location but it will go the same way if they repeat the mistakes of the past. Create a bordello vibe with high end facilities and attractive hostesses, get away from the low end "Bangkok Bangers" BJ "salon" mindset. Hell if they did I might even consider chucking in a mil or two myself for a piece of the action. It was a great place back in the day, drinking a cold one at the bar while chatting with Annie about what you liked and who was best suited to deliver on it. Good memories for sure.

Lion55
03-12-18, 07:23
Today I passed the old site of Annies. There is now a Mexican restaurant in it.The Mexican place has been there for several years. Annie's location next store is now boarded up.

Lion55
03-12-18, 07:26
Stopped by Chrome Bar at noon today. Aey was there handling the SPs. Only three available, all former Annie's girls and looking rather forlorn. Not very promising.

Allover
03-13-18, 06:30
At the end Annie's was operating as a tourist trap decades past its sell date. Experienced Bangkok punters knew it was a weak option vs. The competition that is so often discussed on this MB. Go back in the thread and read all the negative reports.

Just saying.

SL.You are mostly correct in your assessment, but Annies did have a following and a good reputation among some punters. This is in spite of its obvious short comings in talent and facilities. Annies has its own thread on ISG which should give some idea why it is a powerful brand name in the BKK P4 P scene.

Sunlover2
03-13-18, 15:59
Annies has its own thread on ISG which should give some idea why it is a powerful brand name in the BKK P4 P scene.The reason for this was because Annies spotted the internet marketing opportunity early on. Aye personally and her ex-pat surrogate 'helpers' were very active with guerilla marketing tactics in on-line forums:

There were hand bills posted in each room listing their social media outlets which encouraged customers to review them on line. Positive posts were praised and reinforced.

Anytime there was a non-positive review or comments the poster was shouted down as a hater or problem customer. No constructive or honest criticism was permitted.

There were also a ton of 'one time once' posters with glowing reviews on outlets like ISG. Many suspected these reviews were fabricated.

So because of the clutter created by these activities ISG broke Annies out into a separate forum. Tulip was broken out because it was a top spot and genuinely discussed. So as a result all the other massage shops comments were no longer buried.

Not trying to be argumentative. Just how it was. And yes I had been to Annies multiple times. Go back in the threads it is all there.

SL.

Franciscass
03-14-18, 03:24
The reason for this was because Annies spotted the internet marketing opportunity early on. Aye personally and her ex-pat surrogate 'helpers' were very active with guerilla marketing tactics in on-line forums:

There were hand bills posted in each room listing their social media outlets which encouraged customers to review them on line. Positive posts were praised and reinforced.

Anytime there was a non-positive review or comments the poster was shouted down as a hater or problem customer. No constructive or honest criticism was permitted.So very true. I was one of those who was shouted down as having a vendetta against the place by a well-known surrogate apologist whenever I pointed out the dishonesty of the posts appearing on the forum.

Syzygies
04-16-18, 11:34
Anytime there was a non-positive review or comments the poster was shouted down as a hater or problem customer. No constructive or honest criticism was permitted.
Actually if you check carefully, almost every time there was a positive review, it was shouted down by the Annies haters, with one or two special repetitive perpetrators. That is what I found to be exceptionally irritating. So I took exception to that behaviour. I even published the statistics at one time of the number of posts rubbishing some positive review, as though every positive post was total lies (which I don't accept. Some maybe). Real posters did become scared to put a positive review out there.

Certainly negative reviews are permitted. Very repetitive criticism posts implying that all positive reviewers had ulterior moves and were full of shit, were not very constructive. It is well known I have no affiliation with Annies or any of its management. I just don't like to see every positive reviewer hounded down.

Syzygies
04-16-18, 11:47
Why do you have to comment as usual when you clearly DO NOT KNOW any more about it than me and are making assumptions, Mr Syzygies, the self-appointed know-all about Bangkok.

You admit yourself in numerous posts within the last 18 months you did not like Annie's any more.

I have spent many hours chatting with Aey at the bar and I saw AT FIRST HAND how well she ran Annie's on behalf of her mother. This is probably before your time.

When she went missing from the MP ("less time in attendance" to use your phrase) it immediately started to decline.
The fact that it has now closed proves my point. She must no longer have her finger in the pie to any great extent as I am certain she would not have tolerated the decline in both services and amenities.
See Lion55 comment about Aey in attendance. Your "left the management" was total twaddle I am afraid.

I have my sources re Annies and hear that Aey has not left her other shops entirely. Sighted plenty of times (by others). I comment when I believe I have better information. That simple. Sorry I happened to disagree based on what I hear. Aey leaving is most unlikely.

I have met the "Annie" (mother) and chatted to her long ago, however I don't claim very ancient experience at Annies. I also had a chat with a older female staff member who used to be at the Thermae Soapy 27 years ago, and I had old close ties with a friend of hers from the Thermae Soapy.

My latest theory (unproven) is that after an inspection by Authorities, Annies maybe was closed possibly due to illegal use of Underground water, like some other Soapies.

I admit that I did not like the Annies rooms, and did not attend there for well over a year, but I still have contact with someone who ought to know a fair bit about what is going on. I also did not attend Chrome or Wood bars for a long time now, even though I preferred the rooms there. So I did not see Aey with my own eyes recently. Someone else did who has probably little reason to feed me bullshit. Aey was always the "big boss" as far as the girls were concerned, and appeared regularly at all 3 shops (last time the Aey topic came up).

I don't invent or make up information. If I am guessing, I clearly state that, otherwise I try present good info (my viewpoint).

Hiete
04-16-18, 13:31
She has been there recently! When you come back you will probably be successful. Don't worry about it. Don't bother to research in the meantime. It won't be any great help, I suspect. Maybe the Instagram site is a better one to look for recent pics coming up (I did not look for some time though), but hard to be sure when they were taken. I could be wrong. I never use Facebook.It seems that number 14 from Annie's became letter V in Wood Bar.

Applesauce
04-16-18, 16:49
The reason for this was because Annies spotted the internet marketing opportunity early on. I remember this. My first visit to BKK was in 2007 and Annie's was already doing heavy a lot of online marketing then. For those who remember, in 2007 it was still only a minority of people who were online. Cybercafes were started at the back of printing shops. I was using the cybercafe at Times Square near Asok because my hotel the Sheraton didn't have wi-fi.

Franciscass
04-16-18, 18:27
The reason for this was because Annies spotted the internet marketing opportunity early on. Aye personally and her ex-pat surrogate 'helpers' were very active with guerilla marketing tactics in on-line forums:

There were hand bills posted in each room listing their social media outlets which encouraged customers to review them on line. Positive posts were praised and reinforced.

Anytime there was a non-positive review or comments the poster was shouted down as a hater or problem customer. No constructive or honest criticism was permitted..The reason for Annie's decline was bad management (past 2 to 3 years) and overpricing. While 2500 is a reasonable price for 90 minutes when the facilities are decent and the lineup is reasonably attractive this was not the case at Annie's.

They choose to go after the Soi 4 newbie market but the Plaza, Hillary bars and the other watering holes had more interesting choices and so business was slow. They felt by using the net to create a false narrative and using surrogate posters to rubbish anybody who pointed out the truth they could be successful. These surrogate apologists posed as honest brokers claiming no connection to the owners but their continued rubbishing of those of us who refused to allow the forum to be used in this way showed otherwise.

Despite what some believe the only "positive" posts that attention was drawn to were those that were likely shills. Some of these were amazingly by the management themselves.

Members who posted good experiences which incidentally were few and far between did not have their posts rubbished. Furthermore for anyone to suggest that members of this forum are so timid and frightened to post just because they had a negative response to something they said is both an insult to their intelligence and their character.

Syzygies
04-16-18, 18:52
I remember this. My first visit to BKK was in 2007 and Annie's was already doing heavy a lot of online marketing then. For those who remember, in 2007 it was still only a minority of people who were online. Cybercafes were started at the back of printing shops. I was using the cybercafe at Times Square near Asok because my hotel the Sheraton didn't have wi-fi.Minority of people online? Sure my parents weren't online. LOL Surely a lot of us had to use email at the very least, since years before that. I only ever had one or two desktop computers moving to laptops very early and needing them for work since early 2000's. I was posting on work related online forums (not ISG) since well before the year 2000. Not with wifi of course.

By 2007, I am sure Livinstone's Lodge in Soi 33 had very good wifi internet. I stayed there a few times. I liked the late breakfast possibility.

I am sure I joined the ISG before 2007 under a different handle. Was suggested to me by a guy sitting next to me in a sex club. I do recall using some internet cafes (very occasionally) and very rarely in Thailand (was one good one in Soi 11), that was because of inconvenience sometimes of dialup internet connections (before broad band generally available). Internet cafes were also not convenient due to many not being setup to provide a Lan plugin to your own laptop. I certainly had dial up internet at home for a few years before I tried the ISG and before broadband became a good option. ISG still had a lot of posters already in 2005 or 2006 when I joined, and I was finally persuaded to try Tulip sometime later when it was already very big on the ISG.

It was a much later year when Annies got its own thread, which was a big mistake, as that was the time its popularity was dying away. I do recall when Annies used to answer posts on the ISG, in the early days I was a member of ISG. Wasn't very worthwhile.

BionicMan
04-17-18, 04:15
It was a much later year when Annies got its own thread, which was a big mistake, as that was the time its popularity was dying away. I do recall when Annies used to answer posts on the ISG, in the early days I was a member of ISG. Wasn't very worthwhile.I don't see why Annie's having its own thread was a mistake.

It was just catching the moment of the increased marketing opportunity through the web. It certainly didn't cause its own decline. Might have even extended its life and delayed the decline. The "end" of Annie was the changed mongering approach the more opened and wider access to bkk and its special industry with social media taking a stake. There was no need to fake a Thai massage specialty as the soap massage to access paid sex.

In addition the annîes facilities became old, worn out and so where the girls. Not many new talents as the fresh farm girls didn't need anymore to spend hours in a fishbowl hoping to get picked and earn in 90' what they could earn in a quickie with a ST deed.

The "corporation and affiliation" set up with the too hopeful "Dr. BJ" & co. Was probably a mistake as the soi 7/1 facilities distracted the customer base from the main Rajah comolex historical site. Maybe it was just an attempt to cater to a new busibes.

The real estate project at the Rajah complex (I feel sorry for those who started the Mexican Bar, too early to do that) put all to an end.

Franciscass
04-17-18, 04:41
I don't see why Annie's having its own thread was a mistake.Of course it wasn't, how could having your own tread be a mistake. Annie's was an institution back in the day where its popularity warranted a separate thread. It was along with Baron one of the two most popular destinations on Sukhumvit.

Although we've discussed its demise at length I'm still at a loss to understand how with its brand so well recognized and respected it was allowed to go the way it did. Was it the hook up with the inexperienced Soi 7/1 partner, the new business model they pursued or just a loss of interest after mum ceased to be involved.

Syzygies
04-17-18, 06:50
I don't see why Annie's having its own thread was a mistake.Bad mistake by Admin.

Firstly every post containing the word Annie was moved there. A lot of those posts did not belong and were mainly on other topics. Subdivision should not be retrospective. That is too hard. Other better forum subdivisions were suggested, e. G. By Nic Frenchy.



It was just catching the moment of the increased marketing opportunity through the web. It certainly didn't cause its own decline. Might have even extended its life and delayed the decline. The "end" of Annie was the changed mongering approach the more opened and wider access to bkk and its special industry with social media taking a stake. There was no need to fake a Thai massage specialty as the soap massage to access paid sex.
Of course it did not cause the decline. The decline had already started.

The thread split was caused by complaints about the number of Annies posts (and Tulip) cluttering up the Massage thread.



In addition the annes facilities became old, worn out and so where the girls. Not many new talents as the fresh farm girls didn't need anymore to spend hours in a fishbowl hoping to get picked and earn in 90' what they could earn in a quickie with a ST deed.
Annies facilities were always poor, in my memory. The girls may have actually improved in looks. I hardly took Annies girls (maybe only 2 times) before sexy Aor No. 24. Arrived. The line up did improve a little over the years for me. At one time they had maybe 3 or 4 girls I could do. In early days Annies was very over hyped, especially so on another forum starting with "W". Obviously there was a lot of good competition available for MPs, and I never really considered Annies to be a fully fledged Soapy, even though had a bath, bodyslide, and fishbowl. However not very similar to other Soapies, especially with sub standard facilities.


The "corporation and affiliation" set up with the too hopeful "Dr. BJ" & co. Was probably a mistake as the soi 7/1 facilities distracted the customer base from the main Rajah comolex historical site. Maybe it was just an attempt to cater to a new busibes.
Can't agree that was a mistake, but sure those shops were not as busy as Annies was. Chrome rooms are better. Soi of shame was not the best location, or maybe it was. Punters unwilling to go to Annies may well have gone to the new shops. There are a huge number of venues available for any Annies customers. There is nothing special.


The real estate project at the Rajah complex (I feel sorry for those who started the Mexican Bar, too early to do that) put all to an end.Not really relevant I believe. Mexican Restaurant next to Annies? Seems a crazy idea.

Allover
04-19-18, 19:23
Annies rooms were in poor condition forever. I remember them being subpar in the early 2000's. I also thought their girls were extremely well trained even if their looks were below average overall. I remember going there with a wingman in about 2006. Both of the girls got us to come three times (thanks Olive) which never happened to either of us before in a 90 minute period. I would sum up Annies by saying the rooms were poor and you had to look hard to select an attractive girl. But the service was excellent. I credit Aey and her mama.

Why is it so hard for people to accept that some Annies customers liked the place and some didn't?

Franciscass
04-20-18, 05:10
Annies rooms were in poor condition forever. I remember them being subpar in the early 2000's. I also thought their girls were extremely well trained even if their looks were below average overall. I remember going there with a wingman in about 2006. Both of the girls got us to come three times (thanks Olive) which never happened to either of us before in a 90 minute period. I would sum up Annies by saying the rooms were poor and you had to look hard to select an attractive girl. But the service was excellent. I credit Aey and her mama.

Why is it so hard for people to accept that some Annies customers liked the place and some didn't?Annie's was a different world in 2006 compared to 2016. I was a frequent customer back then.

JeremyOfWSG
05-06-18, 16:59
The closing of Annies was really sad to me and seemed to signify the end of an era in BKK. Not that Annies was necessarily my favorite, but the service was good and I had known Aey and the management for ages and I had a lot of good times there. But it was always there, a BKK fixture. I more or less learned about BKK, massage parlors and Thai ladies in the 1990's. It was obviously different then (pre-internet) but now the entire scene just seems different, much more commercial and less user friendly. I still like and enjoy BKK, but the area around Sukhimvit is changing. The rents are increasing and seem to be pushing massage parlors away. It seems harder to find good parlors that are reasonably priced, where they don't charge everything up front, where ladies know they had to entice you go full service.

I used to even enjoy the little dive massage parlors near the Villa Market on Soi 11, occasionally finding a diamond in the rough. They are all gone.

Oh well, nothing good lasts.

Syzygies
05-06-18, 19:04
Annie's was a different world in 2006 compared to 2016. I was a frequent customer back then.Just curious. What was so much better in 2006? I am not of course referring to any clash you may have had with the management in some later year, just what it was like in 2006. I never had any relationship with any of the management whatsoever, however Gop remember's me well enough from several take out bookings a few years back.

My early visits resulted in thinking Aey was the best looker easily, and hence went out without a booking. LOL Hence I never saw the rooms back then. Hard to imagine they ever were better though.

Allover's post seems about right to me. The line up improved in later years in my view. Does not mean a lot of hotties to choose from but I did make bookings. Otherwise change is very slow. I have to admit not being aware of Annies at all except due to the forum. Same goes for Tulip.

Pre 2006 I would have been a regular customer at several Soapies, but not Annies. I probably quit my long term favourite Chao Praya 2, in approx. 2006. It was already in decline after the Thaksin era cleanouts.

Soapies always had such huge signs, they were much harder to ignore pre Internet era, and a buddy first showed me a Soapy "The Thermae" in 1991 (it closed only a relatively short time later), which was located very close to the Miami Hotel and above the Thermae Coffee shop. Thermae obviously means a bath/spa so perhaps some have wondered why a Coffee Shop ws called the "Thermae" in the modern day. LOL

Red Kilt
05-07-18, 04:51
<SNIP> I would sum up Annies by saying the rooms were poor and you had to look hard to select an attractive girl. But the service was excellent. I credit Aey and her mama.

Why is it so hard for people to accept that some Annies customers liked the place and some didn't?I agree with Allover, but I am talking about pre-90's times, when the rooms were perfectly OK by my fairly strict standards.

I am a 5-star hotel person so I prefer nice places and Annies was OK for me in those days.

We all have different preferences. The reality is that when Annies started it was THE place to go despite what others say. No need to over-analyze anything.

As I have said before, it's a pity it's gone but times change and so do businesses.

Globalnomad5
06-10-18, 17:00
OK, so I'm a little confused as to what happened to this place.

From their website it would appear that they simply changed the name and address and everything else (staff, services, prices) remain the same.

This thread makes it sound as though Annies is gone. No reviews, just remembrances of what it used to be like.

Which is it?

BionicMan
06-10-18, 17:11
I agree with Allover, but I am talking about pre-90's times, when the rooms were perfectly OK by my fairly strict standards.

I am a 5-star hotel person so I prefer nice places and Annies was OK for me in those days.

We all have different preferences. The reality is that when Annies started it was THE place to go despite what others say. No need to over-analyze anything.

As I have said before, it's a pity it's gone but times change and so do businesses.Fact is rooms never went through maintenance.

So what was great in those early years (facilities, sizes etc) became over worn through the times.

A little bit like Nana Hotel. Very spacious rooms for downtown and the price you pay, but everything seems worn out.

Unless you are lucky and get a room with refurbished bathrooms to current standards.

Der Herr Blum
09-16-18, 15:13
Does anyone happen to know where the Annies girls are now working?

I am especially looking for Staff Nr 3.

I visited her regularly in the last years and was highly disappointed when I found Annies was closed. I checked Chrome Bar, but there were only 3 girls and no one knew or wanted to tell me what happened to the Annies staff.

Syzygies
09-17-18, 07:16
OK, so I'm a little confused as to what happened to this place.

From their website it would appear that they simply changed the name and address and everything else (staff, services, prices) remain the same.

This thread makes it sound as though Annies is gone. No reviews, just remembrances of what it used to be like.

Which is it?Annies closed due to illegal Artesian water use (as with so many other Soapies). Some of the girls moved to both Chrome and Wood bars. However Annies was so famous that they has a much higher customer visitation rate than Chrome or Wood bars, so many Annies girls could not make enough money at Chrome or Wood bar, not being exactly stunning. LOL Therefore only a small number number of Annies girls are left over there, maybe half a dozen or so, and I can't say which ones, as I am not a customer recently. I expect some Annies girls were pretty enough to do okay There.

I doubt that anyone has inside information on where most of the Annies girls have gone to, and some could have gone far, going their separate ways, perhaps some guys will know how to contact specific girls or know where they work, but don't expect too much knowledge. Some forum guys might see an Annies girl somewhere but not be aware she was at Annies. I only know a few by sight and have not been sampling enough other places to bump into them accidentally. I once saw an Annies girl on a far BTS station with her secret BF (or customer). She was trying hard for me to not see her, but was not successful. I think she still worked at Annies at that time.

I recently bumped into a Crazy House girl Naen in the Tops supermarket, so anything is possible.

It seems the Annies web site shows which girls moved to Chrome bar, e.g. Nos. 1, 14, 6, 99 etc. May not be totally up to date. No. 3 is not on that list and I don't recall if I know No.3 or not.

Der Herr Blum
09-17-18, 20:14
I recently bumped into a Crazy House girl Naen in the Tops supermarket, so anything is possible.

It seems the Annies web site shows which girls moved to Chrome bar, e.g. Nos. 1, 14, 6, 99 etc. May not be totally up to date. No. 3 is not on that list and I don't recall if I know No.3 or not.I come to Bangkok only one or two times a year, but often times it happens to me that I see a girl that I have seen or dated before on the streets, in another gogo or or somewhere else.

Sometimes the girls even remember me years later. Which is a funny thing when you think about the amount of customers who came to their bars or clubs in the mean time.

Anyway, maybe I am lucky and meet Nr 3 again somewhere by accident.

Thanks for your reply.

ThailandBound
12-15-18, 23:26
I visited chrome in late October.

Around 10 pm on a Friday.

Nice chatty fella sat me down and told me how it works.

About 8 girls on show.

I chose Oah, #20 I think but there's the #99 on the website which looks just like her, very slim and decent tits.

Inflatable mattress is always fun when you've got an oiled-up tiny sexy Thai girl sliding up and down on you.

I asked for more of this, she complied.

On to the bed nice BJ then sex in lots of positions (I took kamagra for this as I had just stepped off a 14 HR flight).

Asked for anal, no luck but was encouraged to hear "sorry not too late" which I interpreted as "it's been a long day".

Managed to pop twice, the last one she gobbled up completely which is why I will return to see her, added bonus being possibility of A.

During our session we talked about Annies, I asked about a few girls and she told me some of them now work around that area, I suppose nuru, chrome, wood and there were a few more bars and shops with good looking girls down soi 7/1, have sort of absorbed the talent from annies as it's very easy to get between the 2 locations, you could walk it in 10 minutes.

HentaiNeko
12-01-22, 15:15
So what was Chrome has rebranded as Annie's, literally overnight. Will check it out in the next day or two before my mate and girlfriend make it to BKK. (he's the one to kill the fun, she'll want to join in).

11Bravo
12-06-22, 06:12
So what was Chrome has rebranded as Annie's, literally overnight. Will check it out in the next day or two before my mate and girlfriend make it to BKK. (he's the one to kill the fun, she'll want to join in).Saw that rebranding when I walked past last Thursday, lot of ladies outside looking for business. They can use the name, but without the large bathtubs, it's not Annies. THAT Annies was an institution.

GrapeMan
12-07-22, 18:47
Saw that rebranding when I walked past last Thursday, lot of ladies outside looking for business. They can use the name, but without the large bathtubs, it's not Annies. THAT Annies was an institution.I'm still disappointed Annie's is gone. Rebranding another spot isn't bringing it back, its only going to confuse new tourists for the next decade. That said, real Annie's was drastically overrated, it was damn good and convenient, but I always considered it more of a special, very once in a while place, not a place to go regularly, I'm probably in the minority, but the gimmick gets old fast, if you want to fuck or a massage, there were and are better places. But if you had to try the soapy place, Annie's was as you said, a damn institution.

11Bravo
12-08-22, 00:30
I'm still disappointed Annie's is gone. Rebranding another spot isn't bringing it back, its only going to confuse new tourists for the next decade. That said, real Annie's was drastically overrated, it was damn good and convenient, but I always considered it more of a special, very once in a while place, not a place to go regularly, I'm probably in the minority, but the gimmick gets old fast, if you want to fuck or a massage, there were and are better places. But if you had to try the soapy place, Annie's was as you said, a damn institution.I think that's the point. Using the name to confuse new tourists. One thing, Aey, the manager was a member here, monitored this thread, and would work to resolve any problems. Annie's was my first MP, not just my first soapy. I liked the scrub in the warm water, being able to relax while you were soaped up and washed, an hors the'oeuvres first shot, the B2B on the air mattress, then the service with a 2nd shot. I agree, there were and are better places, but you know what they say, you'll always remember your first as special.

Allover
12-08-22, 07:17
I suppose if Aey worked at the new Annies on 7/1 we would have heard by now. I had my first and only triple pop at a soapy at Annies. Skinny Olive was my girl and she was hot when she was younger.

ThorJohnson
12-28-22, 03:45
I went to Annies last week to give it a try. I had gone once 10 years ago and it was a good experience but I can't really remember any details.

I saw #6 on the website and was smitten. I went in one day to check on her and she was not working that day. Came in the next day and they said she was busy for the next 10-20 minutes and I could wait. I didn't feel like waiting, so talked to papasan and made appointment for the next night. I talked to papasan each time, it looked like he was running both shops.

Arrived the next day at the appointment time and got to see my girl in person. Looked better than the pictures and she was really sweet. Soapy is 1 hour for 2000, VIP room is 500 extra and includes larger space (most of which is empty, but does have bed and private bathroom). I went for the regular and we were on our way. Small room with the bath / soapy area. Showered each other and then to the soapy finished by full service. She did a fantastic job and I left 100% happy. It wasn't until I walked outside that I saw it had only been 45 minutes. It felt like I was in there closer to 90 minutes so I had no complaints.

I returned two nights later because I was still crushing on my girl. To my delight she was available and this time did the VIP. Skipped the soapy and went to bed after the shower. Again, 100% satisfaction and went right up to the time limit.

Would I repeat? Yes, but I think that has more to do with the girl than Annie's service itself if that makes sense. I did not see any other attractive girls on my visits, though a few had the slutty MILF look that I sometimes enjoy.

Sadly, I have been down with a virus for the last few days (non-Covid) so my mongering time ended abruptly.

11Bravo
12-28-22, 13:08
I went to Annies last week to give it a try. I had gone once 10 years ago and it was a good experience but I can't really remember any details.

Arrived the next day at the appointment time and got to see my girl in person. Looked better than the pictures and she was really sweet. Soapy is 1 hour for 2000, VIP room is 500 extra and includes larger space (most of which is empty, but does have bed and private bathroom). I went for the regular and we were on our way. Small room with the bath / soapy area. Showered each other and then to the soapy finished by full service. She did a fantastic job and I left 100% happy. It wasn't until I walked outside that I saw it had only been 45 minutes. It felt like I was in there closer to 90 minutes so I had no complaints.

Would I repeat? Yes, but I think that has more to do with the girl than Annie's service itself if that makes sense. I did not see any other attractive girls on my visits, though a few had the slutty MILF look that I sometimes enjoy.Thanks for the FR, sounds like the new Annies just might be worth a visit.

Geano
12-29-22, 11:45
Sorry to ask. But Google says Annie's is still on Soi 2.

Can someone up date me please.

Thanks.

11Bravo
12-30-22, 06:54
Sorry to ask. But Google says Annie's is still on Soi 2.

Can someone up date me please.

Thanks.Sukhumvit, Soi 7/1, as you're walking away from Sukhumvit, on the left, closer to the end than the beginning of the Soi.

131, 16 Sukhumvit 7/1 Alley

Google, Annie's massage Bangkok, and use search tools to restrict time to past year. You'll find their website.

TourduMonde
01-07-23, 17:14
Never went to the old Annies so perhaps fortunately don't have anything to compare with.

Walked past on my way up the soi, there was nobody worth doing at any of these places, talked briefly with the papasan and said I'd heard of it but he needed more girls and I would try it out on my next visit to Bangkok.

On the way back, a girl looking like number 55 (though the photos on the website are unflattering, she looks better standing up as her breasts, waist and hips are in really good proportion to each other) came and propositioned me for a massage. I went for the 2000 baht shower-mat plus boom boom option (there was also some jacuzzi deal at 2500). So she obviously used the shower, soaped me up, used her tongue in all the right places, sucked (uncovered) then boom-boomed me (covered). She faked an orgasm part way into sex which was nice because it helped me tell apart the real one she had 5 minutes later. I was out of the place in 40 minutes (shouldn't it be 60) but really no complaints as it had reached its logical conclusion.

Never done a soapie before but that was a really great experience and great value at 2000 baht.

11Bravo
01-08-23, 12:33
Never went to the old Annies so perhaps fortunately don't have anything to compare with.

Walked past on my way up the soi, there was nobody worth doing at any of these places, talked briefly with the papasan and said I'd heard of it but he needed more girls and I would try it out on my next visit to Bangkok.

On the way back, a girl looking like number 55 (though the photos on the website are unflattering, she looks better standing up as her breasts, waist and hips are in really good proportion to each other) came and propositioned me for a massage. I went for the 2000 baht shower-mat plus boom boom option (there was also some jacuzzi deal at 2500). So she obviously used the shower, soaped me up, used her tongue in all the right places, sucked (uncovered) then boom-boomed me (covered). She faked an orgasm part way into sex which was nice because it helped me tell apart the real one she had 5 minutes later. I was out of the place in 40 minutes (shouldn't it be 60) but really no complaints as it had reached its logical conclusion.

Never done a soapie before but that was a really great experience and great value at 2000 baht.Personally, if #55 accosted me, I'd find it hard to resist ... BUT ... In the original Annies, each room (old section, good enough for me) had a large metal free-standing tub. Girl would fill with warm water, you climb in, she washes you, soaps you up while you soak, asks if you want shampoo. Then some B2B. Some BBBJ. Then rinse. She puts down air mattress on tiled floor, throws some warm water on it, you lie down, she applies some soap, and B2B, front and back. Then stand up and she rinses you off. Anywhere along there, first shot option up to you. You dry off, move to bed. Tub is drained, she returns air mattress to upright position, joins you on bed, and FS.

Now if you're telling me there is ONLY a shower option, that's NOT Annies. Annies to me is a scrub in a tub, and anything less is just a poor, INFERIOR copy. I don't need, or want, a jacuzzi, just a large tub with warm water to soak in while I get scrubbed. So, large tubs or not? Appreciate the intel and thanks for the FR.

TourduMonde
01-10-23, 13:14
Now if you're telling me there is ONLY a shower option, that's NOT Annies. Annies to me is a scrub in a tub, and anything less is just a poor, INFERIOR copy. I don't need, or want, a jacuzzi, just a large tub with warm water to soak in while I get scrubbed. So, large tubs or not? Appreciate the intel and thanks for the FR.

I have no idea how it works in the jacuzzi rooms. Perhaps they're filled with warm water and the lady scrubs you in them too in which case it might all look more like the original than the experience I had. Also no idea how big the jacuzzis are.

11Bravo
01-11-23, 08:07
I have no idea how it works in the jacuzzi rooms. Perhaps they're filled with warm water and the lady scrubs you in them too in which case it might all look more like the original than the experience I had. Also no idea how big the jacuzzis are.Appreciate the intel. Thanks. For a scrub in a tub, but without the B2B mattress slide, you might consider Don Quixote on Soi 26/1 with the bathtub option. Finish on a bed. Popular. 2600 for an hour.

OldHarry
04-05-23, 10:57
I have no idea how it works in the jacuzzi rooms. Perhaps they're filled with warm water and the lady scrubs you in them too in which case it might all look more like the original than the experience I had. Also no idea how big the jacuzzis are.Was there in early March this year, there are no jacuzzi rooms. The standard room as far as I could see is just a cubicle with a mattress and shower stuff. I took the upgrade room which has a proper bed and slide mattress in an alcove to one side next to the toilet. It was 2500 Bt all-in. The line up when I went in was the two women sat directly outside and all the women sat outside wood bar. All was fine, but didn't repeat as I really like the Jacuzzi part of it.

NicFrenchy
04-11-23, 07:42
They may have moved and rebranded to Annies, but this is not the Annies experience.

I think many old timers that used to know Annies (for better or worse) will be disappointed with the new venue.

Etaoin2003
06-22-23, 05:55
I suppose if Aey worked at the new Annies on 7/1 we would have heard by now. I had my first and only triple pop at a soapy at Annies. Skinny Olive was my girl and she was hot when she was younger.There is a woman working both Annie's and Wood Bar who gave me her name as Aey (although she did not spell it). Not a youngster. Sometimes wears glasses. Sucks with amazing skill, enthusiasm and dedication.

BionicMan
06-23-23, 04:56
There is a woman working both Annie's and Wood Bar who gave me her name as Aey (although she did not spell it). Not a youngster. Sometimes wears glasses. Sucks with amazing skill, enthusiasm and dedication.I doubt the original Aye, managing Annie's, is down to that type of job, unless she is in economic dispair. She wasn't in her prime already 20 years ago, and purely the manager.

Wearing glasses is not a big identification sign as most people over a certain age wears them.

Original Aye must be over 70 now.

I think she well retired since long.

Kuku696
08-22-23, 15:39
I doubt the original Aye, managing Annie's, is down to that type of job, unless she is in economic dispair. She wasn't in her prime already 20 years ago, and purely the manager.

Wearing glasses is not a big identification sign as most people over a certain age wears them.

Original Aye must be over 70 now.

I think she well retired since long.I have met Aye few times in the past and have spent time discussing the business. Actually her mother started Annie's and Aye took over. She is probably in the 50's now. She looked in her mid thirties about ten years ago. She was associaited with Woodbar and another bar (forgot the name) before Annies was closed. I will be there in October and plan to at least check out Annie's then.

Alex1313
10-30-23, 16:54
Hello everyone.

How many pos do you get in an 1 hour session?

TConor
10-31-23, 01:51
Hello everyone.

How many pos do you get in an 1 hour session?Just ask up front. It is amazing some of the better class places say 2 in a 60 min session. Some only if 90 min. Some say up to the girl. In reality if you are lucky enough to find a horny lass you can do as many as you want. Just remember the old saying "Past performance is no guarantee of future results".